[00:09] nice, the solid notifier in the panel actually works! [00:52] evening [00:53] hey Hobbsee [00:54] heya! [00:55] nixternal: buildds fallen over, have they? [00:55] he wanted you to give back kdelibs i believe [00:56] kde4libs that is [00:58] ah [00:58] * Hobbsee --> gone [01:14] gn8 [01:15] Hobbsee: no need to give back anything, it seems they are hurtin' [01:17] nixternal: ahhh. [01:17] * Hobbsee might look later [01:18] no biggy...allows me to update everything here and then do a batch upload === uga is now known as uga|away [02:25] anyone know where guidance monitor config stores its config files for individual users? [07:58] nixternal: yup, that'll require admin access [08:46] Hobbsee: Merry Christmas (yeah very very late) [08:47] heya Jucato! merry christmas to you too! [09:10] marry xmas to you all! [09:10] Merry Christmas to you as well GNUton [09:10] Jucato: :) [10:22] Riddell: merry x'mas! could you take a look at http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/tutorials/ ? [10:32] merry xmas! [10:32] * apachelogger_ hands out cookies [10:32] jpatrick: work? on xmas morning? Oo [10:32] apachelogger_: it's to help get more devs in ;) [10:33] feel free to 'revu' yourself [10:33] Oo [10:33] ...the document [10:33] * apachelogger_ suddenly thinks his coughing and stuff isn't all that sick after all :P [10:34] jpatrick: libqt3-mt-dev is redundant [10:34] apachelogger_: yeah, but I prefer to explictly put it [10:35] jpatrick: packaging is missing a license version [10:36] packaging copyrigh/license is missing a license version [10:36] pardon? [10:37] The Debian packaging is (C) 2007, Jonathan Patrick Davies [10:37] and is licensed under the GPL, see above. [10:37] GPL version??? [10:37] ah [10:37] :P [10:38] "under the version 2 of GPL license" ? [10:38] yeah, something like that [10:38] well [10:38] or later [10:38] version, or at your opinion any later version [10:39] done [10:39] jpatrick: btw, I think you should explain what CDBS actually is, how it works and what it (dis)advantages are [10:40] also if the dh based rules isn't highly commented, which I can't remember ;-), you probably should do so... so that everyone gets an idea how all that stuff works [10:41] ok [10:43] jpatrick: maybe explaining the watch file might be good as well, in case $READER wants to get a revu from a non kubuntu motu ;-) [10:44] * apachelogger_ has to find some drugs to get his fits of coughing under control [10:44] lunch at grandma's :S [10:44] cya [10:46] later [11:40] merry christmas Hobbsee ! [12:57] 26000 of people has voted for question to our Ukrainian president: "How to patch KDE2 on FreeBSD".. Now we are waiting for press-conference which must take place on Dec 27 ;-) [12:59] iRon, your president is copying our president :P [13:00] cheguevara_: yep :) [13:00] iRon: do you support him or you support Yanukovich? [13:00] cheguevara_: i'm far from politics ... [13:01] i support kubuntu :) [13:01] heh [13:01] iRon, have you heard of NBP in Ukraine? [13:02] NBP? what's that? :) [13:03] Национал-Большевистская Партия [13:05] cheguevara_: no :) [13:05] kk never mind :P [13:52] bug 178234 [13:52] Launchpad bug 178234 in ubuntu "GTK themes doesn't work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178234 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [14:46] merry xmas cheguevara ! [14:47] thanks jpatrick you too :) [15:22] Hello [15:23] Any tutorials/conferences going on? [15:24] TuxMan: that was ages ago [15:24] (merry xmas btw) [15:24] You too! [15:24] I got an XO laptop for Xmas [15:25] Been trying to find a way to make Ubuntu/Kubuntu work on it [15:25] TuxMan: how you looked though the tutorialsday logs? [15:25] no.. [15:26] how? im new to kopete =| [15:26] TuxMan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay , and pdf's at http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/tutorials/ [15:26] TuxMan: support channel is #kubuntu [15:26] Oh! Thanks! [15:27] bitte [15:27] hey Elidix ! [15:28] jpatrick \o [15:28] hi ^^ === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh [20:41] Lure: I suppose I don't have to package QLandkarte? ;-) [20:41] * CheGuevara is now running KDE 4 svn [20:41] :O [20:42] i am not seeing how the icons on desktop is gonna work [20:42] * jpatrick _dislikes_ icons on desktops_ [20:43] * CheGuevara downloads everything to the desktop [20:43] * apachelogger__ notes that ubuntu default download path is desktop :P [20:43] yep [20:43] * apachelogger__ hates desktops though [20:43] best would be to replace it with something useful [20:43] * CheGuevara wants a networkmanager plasmoid [20:43] like an aquarium or something [20:44] god firefox is scary on KDE 4 :P [20:46] ehm [20:46] firefox is always scary [20:46] Konqueror ftw [20:47] Konqueror+WebKit ftw [20:47] meh [20:47] * apachelogger__ is out of nectarines :( [20:47] lol [20:47] hm [20:48] xmas packages... [20:48] pokerth [20:48] lets write a qt frontend for FF :P [20:48] kgtk [20:48] maybe sqliteman [20:48] :P [20:48] CheGuevara: there have been plans on that [20:48] I think by SUSE [20:48] yeah i've heard [20:48] but since ff is crap... [20:49] heard somethign like that mozilla didn't give them svn access or something [20:49] I think they would have forked it then ;-) [20:49] whats supposed to be faster opengl or xrender [20:49] openGL if you have decent HW [20:49] depends on driver/chip [20:50] hm [20:50] maybe also xmas package: megamek [20:51] life time package: jashaka [20:51] totally not xmas package: doomsday engine [20:51] http://steelgryphon.com/blog/?p=108#comment-107274 [20:57] ya... firefox is probably controlled somewhere by Miguel de Izca [20:57] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297788 [20:57] Mozilla bug 297788 in CVS Account Request "CVS account request Dirk Mueller for Firefox/Qt" [Normal,Assigned] [20:57] this is what i was talking about [20:58] whats bad about that? [20:59] well [20:59] I wonder why dirk didn't write some patches then [20:59] true [20:59] really, dirk is the kind of person which I'd call a super hacker [20:59] dirk is novell right? [20:59] yeah [21:00] well, not an evangelist like stephan binner ;-) [21:00] hehe [21:01] http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/7/76/Konqi-opensuse-small.jpg [21:01] :P [21:02] meh [21:02] orter.active.Vorian] joins #kubuntu-devel6/Konqi-opensuse-sma [21:03] hello to you too fdoving [21:03] ? [21:03] grr.. [21:03] lol [21:03] :) [21:03] hi. [21:04] hi fdoving [21:04] hi toma. [21:06] meh [21:06] * apachelogger__ kicks amarok [21:06] no! [21:07] enough of that christmas music [21:07] * jpatrick watches as loud metal music comes out of apachelogger__'s speakers [21:07] * apachelogger__ is listening to Touch It / Technologic by Daft Punk on Alive 2007 [Amarok] [21:07] there we go [21:07] jpatrick: now, if that is metal? Oo [21:08] apachelogger__: it came before the /np [21:08] -.- [21:08] got me [21:08] merry christmas to all who celebrates that. [21:11] same to you fdoving :) [21:15] fdoving: to you to [21:15] * apachelogger__ hands out cookie [21:15] +s [21:15] \o/ [21:15] * Vorian eats da kookies [21:17] meh [21:17] I hate it when I stop packaging for some reason [21:18] after some weeks I should restart from scratch because I forgot everything -.- [21:18] kde-devel, cs KDE # [21:18] * Vorian ducks [21:19] * kde-devel hits Vorian with a copy of KDE 2 === kde-devel is now known as CheGuevara [21:19] nooooo [21:19] wooohooo [21:19] KDE2 [21:19] now that was an awesome series [21:19] not so crapped out [21:20] wtf === kde-devel is now known as CheGuevara [21:20] http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde2shots.php [21:20] did anyone ever try kgtk? [21:21] whats that... [21:21] wrapper to use kde dialogs in gtk apps [21:21] http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde1shots.php [21:21] sexy :P [21:22] CheGuevara: at least branded :P [21:22] install all of KDE 4 and check all the apps [21:22] if you then can say all those apps look like they are 4ish you might consult a doctor [21:23] lol [21:23] kuser is a good example [21:23] have you seen the font installer on vista :P [21:23] that app already look out of place in 3 [21:23] CheGuevara: nope [21:23] well [21:23] vista is a whole nother story :P [21:23] vista is a wrapper for XP [21:24] http://nathanbowers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/vista-font-manager.png\ [21:24] here u go [21:24] thats not even xp [21:24] more like 3.1 :P [21:25] Oo [21:26] I always thought that is just dragndrop on windows? [21:26] it can be [21:26] but if you right click in the fonts folder [21:26] /usr/bin/kdialogd-wrapper: line 23: kdialogd4: command not found [21:26] there's an option to add fonts [21:26] which brings in that box [21:26] meh [21:26] well [21:26] then also windows has that old crap issue [21:26] but not as bad as KDE [21:27] yeah but what i always wondered, since that is a file selection dialog box, why doesn't it re-use the code === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve [21:29] kgtk looks interesting [21:30] well [21:30] one can't build KDE3 and KDE4 support at the same time [21:30] which makes me wonder how to package both [21:30] which probably was the reason I stopped packaging it [21:32] kdialogd3: Timeout:30 [21:32] bah [21:32] * apachelogger__ kicks that stupid app [21:32] * CheGuevara switche from xchat to konversation [21:32] *switched [21:33] irssi ftw [21:34] might as well just use bitchx then [21:34] bitchx was removed from hardy [21:34] awww [21:35] konversation kde 4 port doesn't seem to be coming any time soon as well [21:36] irssi is nicer than bitchx, bitchx is a little bit outdated. [21:37] apperentely bitchx2 is coming [21:38] BitchX is the most popular IRC client among Unix systems. You can also use it on Windows, but if you had a Picasso painting, would you put it in the bathroom? [21:38] lol [21:41] * apachelogger__ reports: kgtk is totally not working -.- [21:43] cool [21:43] now gimp explodes [21:43] Oo [21:44] (gimp:2363): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_send_expose: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED (widget)' failed [21:44] wooohoo [21:44] * apachelogger__ takes CheGuevara for a dance [21:46] * CheGuevara is happy he didn't install kgtk yet :P [21:47] CheGuevara: it only works if you start the app with the wrapper script anyway [21:47] apachelogger__: what the naach is kgtk? === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | Merry Christmas to all | Next meeting: 2nd January [21:48] Riddell: a wrapper to use native KDE dialogs [21:48] works with Qt and Gtk apps [21:48] theoretically [21:48] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 [21:50] package it for kubuntu :P [21:52] 2.6.24-rc6-mm1 [21:52] This kernel doesn't work on i386! [21:52] useful [21:52] not if it doesn't work === HamishTPB- is now known as HamishTPB [21:54] Riddell: well, then at least we could generate some work for new devs ;-) [21:54] like they don't have enough :P [21:56] * apachelogger__ declares: ubuntu's gtk is b0rked [21:56] yeah just blame them :P [21:57] well [21:57] it works for Qt [21:57] just tried with opera [21:57] hm [21:57] almost at least [21:57] I think my opera just locked up :P [21:58] /usr/bin/kqt3-wrapper: line 29: 3868 Segmentation fault (core dumped) LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/kgtk/libkqt3.so:$LD_PRELOAD "$@" [21:58] yay [21:58] -.- [21:58] maybe that is fixed in .4 [21:59] oh [21:59] I actually have .4 -.- [22:02] hmm .24 ubuntu kernel is funy, under some reboots sound chooses not to load [22:04] that's not funny [22:05] depends :P [22:05] * apachelogger__ suspects the gtk-qt-engine to be responsible for the br0ken gtk [22:06] apachelogger__: would you like it if your amarok just stopped working? [22:06] another thing we'll be missing with kde 4 [22:06] jpatrick: considering I don't reboot in months I probably wouldn't notice :P [22:06] CheGuevara: work stop? [22:06] heh [22:06] no gtk-qt-engine :P [22:07] well, as I saied a work stop :P [22:07] lol [22:07] seems to be dead upstream as well [22:07] well [22:07] IMO gtk should just be ported to qt [22:08] much more reasonable [22:08] haha [22:08] * apachelogger__ wonders how to burn the gtk-qt-engine [22:08] dont't forget C vs C++ [22:08] who is using C anyway? [22:08] gnome [22:09] ah [22:09] that isn't true :P [22:09] mostly it's perl and python and stuff [22:09] rewrite gnome in gtkmm! [22:09] mono... [22:09] * apachelogger__ doesn't like mono [22:10] they didn't manage to get the vb.net love [22:10] hm [22:10] gtk-qt isn't the problem [22:10] strange [22:11] maybe my libs are messed up [22:11] now i am tempted to try and announce that ur pc is b0rked [22:11] can someone please try to run kgtk? [22:11] CheGuevara: my PC is b0rked [22:11] what do you expact from a machine running suse, kubuntu and windows part time? [22:12] unhappy grub :P [22:12] i will try it though [22:13] wanna go for a cig first [22:13] * apachelogger__ can' [22:13] t [22:13] tried to smoke before, tasted like ***** [22:13] lucky [22:13] * apachelogger__ should probably become a nu generation hacker anyway ;-) [22:13] being addicted sucks [22:14] not smoking, not alcohol drinking [22:14] but tea [22:14] tea!! [22:14] see :P [22:14] i never had a feeling it tastes like crap though [22:14] weed does.... [22:14] * jpatrick : tea and coffeo [22:14] oh, no coffee either [22:14] as long as its not tea with milk :P [22:14] but earl grey [22:15] * apachelogger__ notes that he never tried tea with milk [22:15] mmm earl gray is nice [22:15] neither have i [22:15] though living in UK you see it quiet often :P [22:15] lol [22:16] lets ask Riddell [22:17] though he'll probably tell us that Scotland != UK :P [22:18] tea with milk is good [22:19] if you say so :P [22:21] right brb [22:35] back [22:43] apachelogger__: kdialogd4: command not found [22:46] apachelogger__: after ln -s it seems to work fine with firefox === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [23:18] hi there [23:19] hi doc__ [23:20] hi [23:31] CheGuevara: can you pop by #ubuntu-ops a sec? [23:31] yar