[00:00] <Dr_willis> Changelog "Fixed spelling mistakes in source..." :)
[00:00] <nicholas> Thank you. :)
[00:01] <Hydrargyrum> Hi gents. Got a n00bish question for you. I've got a computer here with two identical hard disks, except one is blank and one is full of precious, precious data. I want to install Ubuntu on the blank disk. When I get into the partition editor stage of install, it lists hda and hdb as my choices of disk. How can I tell which of hda and hdb is mapped to the default "disk", and which is mapped to "disk-1"?
[00:01] <arash> lol,I messed up bad, now the installed programs still are visible in applications -> wine, but not the wine things!! (brose C:\ and wineffg)
[00:01] <hyperb0lix> arash: OHH
[00:02] <hyperb0lix> arash: Are you talking about menu entries?
[00:02] <hyperb0lix> arash: I had some trouble removing those at first, too
[00:02] <arash> hyperb0lix:  yea, that too
[00:02] <GHOST> wine is kinda complicated :s
[00:02] <Ward_> Thor:   Thanks.  I will take alook at it
[00:02] <hyperb0lix> arash: .config and .local
[00:02] <hyperb0lix> arash: HOld on A SEC
[00:02] <FishFace1> Hydrargyrum: How about you disconnect the non-blank drive, then hook it back up after your install?
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  you could mount each one and see what one has data
[00:03] <hyperb0lix> arash: ./.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Sierra/Homeworld
[00:03] <Dr_willis> or use 'sudo fdisk -l' and see what disk has partitions on it
[00:03] <hyperb0lix> That's one entry...
[00:03] <Pulshion> does anyone know if there is a way to check temperatures for ati card and check fan speed, like atitools for windows
[00:03] <grunch0> hiii!!
[00:03] <hyperb0lix> arash: So you could do rm -rf ~/.local/share/applications/wine
[00:04] <Zikiti> How come no one here?
[00:04] <arash> hyperb0lix: :D
[00:04] <hyperb0lix> arash: And rm -rf ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine-*
[00:04] <Pulshion> does anyone know if there is a way to check temperatures for ati card and check fan speed, like atitools for windows
[00:04] <hyperb0lix> arash: Whoops, no need for the r on second one
[00:04] <hyperb0lix> arash: Bad habit :X
[00:05] <arash> hyperb0lix: Dont you worry, it's already fixed with the first command
[00:05] <Hydrargyrum> Dr_willis: looking in the Computer browser, it lists both volumes. I mount the second one, which gets assigned the name "disk-1" - that contains all the data. So far, so good. But looking through the properties of the mounted volume, it doesn't seem to say whether it's hda or hdb. Should I use a command line mount so that I can specify whether I'm interested in hda or hdb?
[00:05] <Dr_willis> Zikiti,  thers 1086 people here.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  use 'sudo fdisk -l' see what disk is hda and what one is hdb
[00:05] <hyperb0lix> arash: That _should_ take care of everything, since I had problems getting rid of Wine, too
[00:05] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  command line is our friend. :)
[00:05] <Hydrargyrum> Dr_willis: thanks, will check it out
[00:05] <hyperb0lix> Command line is indeed!
[00:05] <arash> hyperb0lix: well, I was msot intrested in reinstall
[00:06] <GigaClon> anyone know where I get shell scripting help?
[00:06] <hyperb0lix> arash: Hmm, you should be able to install Wine after that and it'll be a clean install
[00:06] <hyperb0lix> GigaClon: There's a good tut online, hold on
[00:07] <GigaClon> well i know the basics
[00:07] <Dr_willis> !abs
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <arash> hyperb0lix: actually, I had it isntalled when I typed 'rm -rf ~/.local/share/applications/wine' , fixed it well!
[00:07] <hyperb0lix> GigaClon: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[00:07] <Luigi> Hello! I appear to be having a slight problem: GRUB can't find my kerenl. If nobody her can help me, I'll just patiently freak out here in the background until someone does. Thaks!
[00:07] <Dr_willis> the "abs" guide is in the repos also.  GigaClon
[00:07] <Dr_willis> !find abs
[00:07] <ubotu> Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)
[00:07] <wazupwhere> Merry Christmas to all those serving in Iraq! My family is praying for your safe return!
[00:07] <Zikiti> What about us in Cuba?
[00:07] <Luigi> kernel* here* thanks*
[00:08] <arash> !offtopic
[00:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:08] <wazupwhere> u too
[00:08] <GigaClon> yeah i want to strip out newline from a file so they are all on the same line
[00:08] <wazupwhere> :o)
[00:08] <JordanC-Dynamics> wazupwhere: This isn't a general chat channel
[00:08] <Dr_willis> GigaClon,  that should be a rather  simple, perl, or bash, or sed, script.
[00:08] <Dr_willis> awk even. :)
[00:08] <GHOST> !libdvdcss
[00:08] <ciperlone> merry xmas to you all!!!
[00:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:09] <Zikiti> Come on that was like a one liner live a little
[00:09] <GHOST> yea MERRY X MAS
[00:09] <Luigi> Is SystemRescueCD an adequate solution?
[00:09] <hyperb0lix> Happy holidays!
[00:09] <GHOST> :)
[00:09] <Dr_willis> Luigi,  i always keep a copy of that cd in my PC toolbox. :)
[00:09] <GHOST> lol me too
[00:09] <Luigi> Please, people, stop chattering about holidays...
[00:09] <Hydrargyrum> Hmm. fdisk -l tells me basically that I have two identical hard disks, both formatted as W95 FAT32. Argh. I think I might go with fishface's suggestion and disconnect the disk full of data
[00:09] <hyperb0lix> Luigi: Happy holidays!
[00:10] <GHOST> lol
[00:10] <Hydrargyrum> Would that make it harder to set up a dual boot?
[00:10] <GHOST> no school!
[00:10] <JordanC-Dynamics> Happy 25 December :)
[00:10] <hyperb0lix> w00t
[00:10] <GHOST> woot WOOT!
[00:10] <hyperb0lix> Happy 24th!
[00:10] <GHOST> OW santa clse
[00:10] <jgoo> Happy n time!
[00:10] <hyperb0lix> Is n an integer?
[00:11] <askand> How do I see if ubuntu sees my  computers ir?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  under windows. You could just delete the partitions on the empty one.. making it all unallocated..
[00:11] <Zikiti> !offtopic
[00:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:11] <GHOST> kool!
[00:11] <nicholas> Would you recommend ClanLib?
[00:11] <jgoo> hyperb0lix: n is a null vlaue, one dimensional non-integer imaginary number, sometimes called time!
[00:11] <Ric84> hello
[00:11] <jgoo> *value
[00:11] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  or mount both of them and check the 'mount' command to see what one is mounted as what device
[00:11] <wazupwhere> askand... ifconfig -a
[00:11] <GHOST> hullo!
[00:11] <hyperb0lix> lol
[00:11] <GHOST> lol
[00:11] <Hydrargyrum> Dr_willis: thanks, I am currently RTF man mount :)
[00:12] <Ric84> can i save the state of a partition?
[00:12] <wazupwhere> also check cat /proc/networks
[00:12] <Ric84> i'd like to backup a windows partition
[00:12] <GHOST> am i the only fresh french around here?
[00:12] <Ric84> (with linux of course)
[00:12] <askand> wazupwhere: thanks..now I just need to get it working
[00:12] <wazupwhere> :o)
[00:12] <Dr_willis> !find ntfstools
[00:12] <nickrud> GHOST, probably some stale ones as well
[00:12] <GHOST> :D
[00:12] <ubotu> Package/file ntfstools does not exist in gutsy
[00:12] <GHOST> hey!
[00:13] <nickrud> :)O
[00:13] <hs1> someone can help me with mondorestore?
[00:13] <GHOST> lol
[00:13] <arash> for what reason isn't my CD recently put in not automounteed, another CD just put in worked fine
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I know thers some sort of ntfs partitioning/backup tools out there...
[00:13] <nickrud> ntfsprogs , Dr_willis
[00:13] <Hydrargyrum> Dr_willis: Ah, there we go! hda = "disk", hdb = "disk-1". Thanks for the help.
[00:14] <Dr_willis> Hydrargyrum,  :) of course you do know.. that if your data is that UBER critical.. you should have backups?
[00:14] <Dr_willis> :P
[00:15] <jgoo> heh, actually, Dr_willis - good point, what is the most carefree, simple 'backup my entire linux system snapshot' application out there?
[00:15] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  i cheat and use a redundant stack of exteranal usb hard drives...
[00:15] <hyperb0lix> Dr_willis: How many?
[00:15] <jgoo> let's say I want to export all partitions on a physical disk to a single easily recoverable image onto another disk...
[00:15] <Dr_willis> lets see.. right now on my desk is 3 usb hd's ranging from 500 to 40gb in size. :)
[00:15] <hyperb0lix> XD
[00:16] <Ric84> ntfsclone... thank you :-)
[00:16] <jgoo> Dr_willis: that requires maintaining a RAID though... and you backup / real time mirror any mistakes
[00:16] <jgoo> I'd like a snapshot, I can go back to :-)
[00:16] <GHOST_> wow thre some many people in offtopic that xchzt crash :s
[00:16] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  I dont have the raided.. i just cp over the imporntant data..
[00:16] <jgoo> a system restore point as it were
[00:16] <jgoo> no real data...just system (apps, install, setup, tweaks etc)
[00:16] <Ric84> btw... how do i solve the usplash wrong resolution bug?
[00:16] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with system backups  Thats easy to reinstall for me.. its the large amounts of data that i have - thats so much space.
[00:16] <jgoo> my data lives in the cloud anyway
[00:16] <Ric84> i read usplash.conf has a wrong resolution
[00:16] <Dr_willis> I also backup stuff the stuff to dvd. :)
[00:16] <Ric84> i can fix it... then what?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> I wish DL dvd disks would get cheaper.
[00:17] <hyperb0lix> Ric84: I think it can be fixed in menu.lst in /boot somewhere
[00:17] <nickrud> Ric84, if I read your question right , sudo update-initiramfs -c
[00:18] <nickrud> Ric84, erm  sudo update-initramfs -c    (typo)
[00:18] <Ric84> ok
[00:18] <Luigi> Ok, I'm burning SystemRescueCD on an Evil Empire computer, how can I fix... GRUB not knowing where any of my kernels are?
[00:18] <Ric84> i'm reading update-initramfs man page
[00:18] <Ric84> it says -c creates a new initramfs
[00:19] <Ric84> how do i replace the old one?
[00:19] <Ric84> never did this... i never touched an initramfs
[00:19] <hyperb0lix> Ric84: Touch it
[00:19] <arash> How do i mount my CD. for some very strange reason its not automatically mounted
[00:20] <nickrud> Ric84, it'll overwrite the current one, works fine.
[00:20] <Falados> Hello Everyone! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays/Winter for everyone else =D
[00:20] <Ric84> duh... -u
[00:20] <Ric84> what about -u?
[00:20] <nickrud> Ric84, works too :)
[00:20] <thor> Luigi I will pastebin some notes I have on restoring grub.....give me a sec
[00:20] <hyperb0lix> arash: mount /media/cdrom?
[00:21] <Falados> Except for the southern Hemisphere... I guess its sort of summer there.
[00:21] <GHOST_> ?
[00:21] <hyperb0lix> ¿
[00:21] <thor> Luigi here are the notes...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49503/...but no guarantees
[00:21] <GHOST> 0.o
[00:21] <Falados> O.O!
[00:21] <hyperb0lix> o.0
[00:21] <GHOST> lol
[00:21] <mcquaid> join #avidemux
[00:22] <arash> hyperb0lix: yay :p
[00:22] <nickrud> thanks, mcquaid , but no :)
[00:22] <GHOST> gonna stak my crystmas cake!
[00:22] <mcquaid> doh
[00:22] <thor> Luigi the first entry in that list...the first 7 steps...might help youout
[00:22] <eugman> Is geany supposed to be able to edit .pl files?
[00:22] <mcquaid> i need to encode a vcd fast, avidemux took over an hour on my box for one disc
[00:23] <hyperb0lix> mcquaid: I installed tovid recently
[00:23] <mcquaid> don't really see anything i can tweak. anyone know of a fast vcd encoder
[00:23] <mcquaid> was it fast?
[00:23] <hyperb0lix> mcquaid: No lol
[00:23] <mcquaid> heh
[00:24] <hyperb0lix> mcquaid: Took about an hour for a 50-min vid
[00:24] <Bakefy> I did a bad stupid thing... I could use some help... i installed ubuntu, and forgot the username and password
[00:24] <hyperb0lix> Bakefy: :O
[00:24] <mcquaid> ya that's way too long.  i remember back in the day i used tmpgenc and got about the same time with my pii 400
[00:24] <Bakefy> hyperb0lix is there a way I can just create a new account?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Bakefy,  boot live cd, chroot to installed system, look in home for user name, then set the password
[00:24] <mcquaid> if i could do almost realtime encoding with a pii 400, it should fly now
[00:25] <hyperb0lix> Bakefy: You're using Linux now?
[00:25] <mcquaid> first time i've tried making a vcd in years
[00:25] <bascule> Bakefy: edit /etc/shadow from a live boot disc
[00:25] <Bakefy> thanks all I will try this
[00:25] <Evolution2> when I boot up right before the filling kubuntu bar gets to the part where it mounts the partitions it gives me that it's the wrong uuid for kubuntu. so kubuntu is trying to mount itself on top of its old uuid. what's the command that lists the uuid of the partitions
[00:25] <Falados> I love my free Ubuntu CDs =D, so handy
[00:25] <sourcemaker> are there kernel hackers here?
[00:26] <bascule> Bakefy: lots if tutorials out there on how to do it
[00:26] <MrChips> whats a good console based mp3 player apart from moc and mp3blaster?
[00:26] <robdig> Evolution2: blkid
[00:27] <Evolution2> robdig: thanks
[00:27] <robdig> Evolution2: np
[00:27] <hyperb0lix> Fermat's Last Theorem!
[00:27] <GHOST> how
[00:27] <hyperb0lix> woh
[00:27] <sourcemaker> who can answer kernel based questions? (No, do not send me the >>kernel<< answer)
[00:27] <GHOST> lol
[00:27] <Falados> Wow so many updates... 149 updates total X_X
[00:27] <GHOST> hey ist down here!
[00:28] <Bakefy> bascule, im booting to the live dvd now...
[00:28] <Evolution2> robdig: so to fix my problem where do I stick this uuid in fstab or grub menu
[00:29] <wols> Evolution2: both
[00:29] <sourcemaker> how can I install the last vanilla kernel with nvidia support in kubuntu/ubuntu?
[00:29] <hyperb0lix> Bakefy: Make sure you add an entry in /etc/passwd, too
[00:29] <GHOST> !chocolate kernel
[00:29] <robdig> Evolution2: agree with wols
[00:29] <mimilus> happy new year, hoops sorry
[00:29] <Evolution2> wols: the leading grub install is using my ubuntu partition
[00:29] <GHOST> lol
[00:30] <Evolution2> so on grub/fstab kubuntu + grub ubuntu?
[00:30] <elyas> How paltalk be installed?
[00:30] <mimilus> do you know a program for create cd cover ?
[00:30] <GHOST> mimilus bonnes vacances ;)
[00:31] <bascule> Bakefy: ok, kenny:!:13755:0:99999:7:: <--edit the $1$<random chars> to the colon to mimic that
[00:31] <elyas> How paltalk be installed?
[00:31] <hyperb0lix> bascule: He needs to add an entry to passwd, too, eh?
[00:31] <Dr_willis> !find paltalk
[00:31] <Bakefy> bascule, i might have some questions once I actually attempt this.
[00:31] <ubotu> Package/file paltalk does not exist in gutsy
[00:31] <Luigi> ummm... I know how GNU/Linux works, but how do I get SystemRescueCD and lynx to... work like they did in Ubuntu with my simple Ethernet connection?
[00:32] <bascule> hyperb0lix: well if shadow is enabled password field is set as :x:, so no
[00:32] <GHOST> is ubotu intelligent :s
[00:32] <Luigi> And where will the rest of my harddisk be found in SystemRescueCD anyway?
[00:32] <hyperb0lix> bascule: Oh, wait, is he adding a user or resetting the passwd?
[00:32] <bascule> hyperb0lix: well username will be listed at the end so let's just blank it
[00:33] <Dr_willis> Luigi,  a lot of those live cds have network setup tools you run.
[00:33] <elyas> I know it does not exist, but there is only way to install?
[00:33] <Luigi> OK
[00:34] <elyas> heloo
[00:34] <elyas> ?
[00:34] <hyperb0lix> ooleh?
[00:34] <elyas> I know it does not exist, but there is only way to install?
[00:34] <bascule> hyperb0lix: though removing the x from the :s in passwd will do no harm
[00:34] <hyperb0lix> Aye
[00:34] <bascule> Bakefy: you could also chroot to the ubuntu install and go from there
[00:35] <hyperb0lix> bascule: chroot+passwd?
[00:35] <bascule> yes
[00:35] <hyperb0lix> k
[00:35] <bascule> or useradd then passwd
[00:35] <elyas> please...
[00:36] <hyperb0lix> elyas: I could only find Paltalk for Windows
[00:36] <bascule> spytalk
[00:36] <Bakefy> bascule, i have the shadow document open...
[00:36] <LimCore> elyas: if it is a windows only program, then perhaps run it under wine in ubuntu
[00:36] <IndyGunFreak> elyas: whats paltalk?
[00:36] <hyperb0lix> I don't know...
[00:36] <hyperb0lix> Some sort of chat thingy
[00:36] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[00:36] <LimCore> elyas: or better yet, ask the developers will they do a linux version, or use software that have linux version
[00:37] <Bakefy> bascule, i see this "ubuntu:U6oaksdfoak:1231:123123:123113 (those are random) is that what I edit?
[00:37] <bascule> Bakefy: ok the last line will be the last added user, it goes username:<random chars>:..other bits, we ned to remove all chars from between the first 2 colons ::
[00:37] <bascule> Bakefy: yeah
[00:37] <elyas> Wine is operated by well-managed after fixation
[00:37] <Bakefy> bascule, what should i do from here?
[00:38] <bascule> soit looks like ubuntu::<numbers>
[00:38] <bascule> Bakefy: and this is the /etc/shadow from the partition not the live cd
[00:38] <elyas> Thank you very much for each of attempted assistance
[00:38] <bascule> so /media/mountpoint/etc/shadow
[00:39] <elyas> But there is a question regarding the version 6.06 Is there a security threat to use?
[00:40] <nicholas> Could someone please recommend a RAD C++ IDE for Ubuntu 7.10?
[00:40] <Bakefy> bascule that is correct.
[00:40] <Falados> nicholas: RAD?  I've always used Anjuta for C++
[00:40] <hyperb0lix> elyas: I would switch to Gutsy, since the programs are more up-to-date
[00:41] <bascule> Bakefy: so if you have ubuntu::<numbers>:0:999999:7 or such save it
[00:41] <IndyGunFreak> the LTS versions are over rated in my opinion, unless you're supporting a bunch of computers, a network, etc.
[00:41] <IndyGunFreak> or are paying for support
[00:41] <hyperb0lix> IndyGunFreak: I concur :)
[00:41] <dagon^> I'm never installing a .10-version again
[00:41] <elyas> Could I of this depends organ during installation
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> dagon^: lol, why?
[00:42] <Falados> Change is slow in corporate, for that type of environment you almost need something like LTS
[00:42] <hyperb0lix> dagon^: So you won't install October versions?
[00:42] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; hmm, Gutsy fucked up my computer :D
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> i dobut it was gutsy, it was likely a user malfunction
[00:42] <bascule> IndyGunFreak: people are so accustomed to ms release cycles that it fraks them out to change every 18 months  :
[00:42] <bascule> )
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> bascule: every 18?... lol, i change every 6
[00:42] <bascule> me too
[00:43] <Falados> Same, but we run desktops, not Enterprise server clusters
[00:43] <Bakefy> bascule okay, done.
[00:43] <dagon^> hmm, I changed from Win2k to Feisty :O
[00:43] <bascule> Bakefy: in /etc/passwd delete the x between the first 2 colons of user ubuntu
[00:43] <nicholas> Thank you.
[00:43] <nicholas> Anjuta looks good.
[00:43] <nicholas> I'm downloading it.
[00:43] <IndyGunFreak> i can understand using LTS in a network situation, where you have to keep track of numerous computers, etc, but for the average user, just keep use the most recent version
[00:43] <sulle> I apt-get installed a txt file... but i dont know where it was downloaded to. Where can i look / search for it?.
[00:43] <IndyGunFreak> nicholas: whats anjuta?
[00:43] <Falados> nicholas: Great =) I hope you like it
[00:43] <elyas> All new versions of other distributions determine what Uday ubuntu, however, I prefer the old to the rest of distributions
[00:43] <IndyGunFreak> !info anjuta
[00:44] <nicholas> Anjuta is a C++ RAD IDE.
[00:44] <bascule> c/c++ ide
[00:44] <soldats> sulle, desktop
[00:44] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.2.0-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1782 kB, installed size 4324 kB
[00:44] <nicholas> Thank you Falados. :)
[00:44] <Luigi> anyone know how I can send 40GB of data as a single data strean?
[00:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol, 40gig?
[00:44] <Luigi> to another computer on my network?
[00:44] <bascule> bottorrent? :))
[00:44] <sulle> soldats: nope its not there.
[00:44] <Bakefy> bascule leave the :: ?
[00:44] <bascule> yes
[00:44] <soldats> :)) == double chin
[00:45] <sulle> i have tryed #whereis ***file***
[00:45] <soldats> sulle, did yousownload in firefox
[00:45] <sulle> no i apt-get installed it.
[00:45] <fsanlu> hey everyone! im a new UBUNTU user and currently loving it!
[00:45] <hyperb0lix> sulle: ?
[00:45] <dagon^> fsanlu; great :D
[00:45] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: uh, Places/Search for files?
[00:45] <sulle> fsanlu: Great :D
[00:45] <hyperb0lix> sulle: You could use the find command
[00:45] <hyperb0lix> sulle: Or locate
[00:45] <Falados> Anyone here have a Geforce 8 series using the binary drivers?
[00:45] <bascule> sulle: what was it?
[00:46] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'm not sure.....lol,
[00:46] <sulle> c++-annotation-txt
[00:46] <IndyGunFreak> how do you know if you have the binary driver?
[00:46] <sulle> hyperb0lix: find command?. tell me some more about it :P
[00:46] <bascule> IndyGunFreak: lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:46] <Falados> your xorg has the nvidia driver, not the nv driver
[00:46] <hyperb0lix> sulle: find / -type f -name "c++-annotation-txt"
[00:46] <hyperb0lix> sulle: Or locate "c++-annotation-txt"
[00:46] <bascule> after updatedb
[00:46] <hyperb0lix> sulle: You may need to run updatedb for the second one, thouygh
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> bascule: ok, and how should that tell me?
[00:47] <sulle> Ok =)
[00:47] <bascule> cause there is a kernel modle called nvidia that is loaded if you are running it
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> the info it kicked out doesn't make sense
[00:47] <hyperb0lix> gg bascule
[00:47] <hyperb0lix> :)
[00:48] <bascule> IndyGunFreak: or glxinfo | grep render
[00:48] <sulle> thn xalot hyperb0lix =)
[00:48] <fsanlu> i have a small question people: well ive been reading the docs.. and found out how some extensions arent native to linux. when using firefox... how do i install those "multiverse" things to get flash support and what not. i cant seem to find where to do it. thank you :D
[00:48] <Falados> IndyGunFreak: Do you have it working? I just want to know I'm not alone before I install it XD
[00:48] <soldats> !flash
[00:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:48] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:48] <sulle> fsanlu: go and install getautomatix2 from getautomatix.com
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> Falados: i don't know..lol
[00:48] <bascule> !restricted | fsanlu
[00:48] <ubotu> fsanlu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:48] <sulle> That program will help you =)
[00:49] <soldats> !automatix
[00:49] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> mine is a 7 series anyways..lol
[00:49] <Falados> Ah darn
[00:49] <sulle> soldats: =S . i have never had problems with it.
[00:49] <hyperb0lix> Anyone have usplash issues?
[00:49] <fsanlu> thank you thank you. i shall read up on these :] happy holidays people btw!
[00:49] <Falados> Gutsy didn't auto-detect it, so I'm slightly worried
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> but i've got dual screens and a tuner card setup perfectly, its awesome-o..lol
[00:49] <Falados> I'm fairly certain it won't be a problem
[00:49] <soldats> !worksforme | sulle
[00:49] <ubotu> sulle: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[00:49] <bascule> sulle: if you ever dist-upgrade versions it will break your machine
[00:50] <dagon^> hey guys, I just installed Anjuta as you adviced someone else, it looks good :)
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> pastebin is broken
[00:50] <sulle> Oh. I have never heard it was "dangerous" before. But thnx for the heads up. =)
[00:50] <Milotin> Can someone tell me why i can't run from terminat ? everything i try to run i get -sh: No such file or directory
[00:50] <hyperb0lix> IndyGunFreak: ?
[00:50] <Falados> bascule: What breaks your machine?
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: there's a lot of other things that are really wrong w/ Automatix...
[00:50] <bascule> Falados: automatix
[00:50] <soldats> pastebin is fine
[00:50] <sulle> okok.
[00:50] <Falados> Automatrix is a horrible piece of software XD
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> hyperb0lix: i can't get to the page.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:51] <hyperb0lix> IndyGunFreak: I use pastebin.ca for a general pastebin
[00:51] <soldats> IndyGunFreak, www.pastebin.com
[00:51] <Falados> Synaptic has gotten so much better that you don't really even need Automatix anymore
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'll keep that one handy hyperb0lix, thanks
[00:51] <hyperb0lix> IndyGunFreak: A friend recommended the .ca one over the .com one, since it had more options
[00:51] <basti> how can I get the free disk space?
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Falados: i totally agree...
[00:52] <bascule> basti: df -h if you lke shells
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> automatix is for the braindead, who refuse to read even one sentence of an FAQ
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> and the risks it imposes, far outweighs any benefits
[00:52] <basti> thx bascule
[00:52] <Luigi> Ok, Ubuntu LiveCD says I still have everything from my harddisk, GRUB just refuses to hit the kernel... how could I check why this is happening?
[00:52] <sulle> How do i remove automatix ? :P
[00:53] <bascule> basti: welcome, it stands for disk free and th e -h says human readable, if you care
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: hope.
[00:53] <sulle> done :P
[00:53] <turdy> hi all
[00:53] <Falados> Its a gigantic hack though.  It seems to me like it was a quick fix that never got polished so it just got worse and worse XD
[00:53] <Milotin> Can someone tell me why i can't run from terminal ? everything i try to run i get -sh: No such file or directory
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: problem is, when you remove it, it has hosed more than one system.
[00:53] <turdy> this is probably not the place to ask but I dont' seem to be able to get an answer anywhere else
[00:53] <soldats> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[00:53] <hyperb0lix> Falados: No matter how much you polish a turd......
[00:53] <Falados> haha
[00:53] <bascule> Milotin: echo $PATH, what does it say?
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: if its working ok.. i would let it be, and when you *upgrade*.. do a clean install, and don't reinstall automatix.
[00:53] <sulle> hyperb0lix: hahaha n1
[00:53] <basti> bascule,  thank you, it's kind of you to explain :)
[00:54] <bascule> basti: I enjoy it sometimes :)
[00:54] <sulle> IndyGunFreak: Okok. thnx for your advice.
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> sulle: or if you start to have a problem, reinstall, and don't reinstall automatix.
[00:54] <hyperb0lix> gj bascule! :D
[00:54] <basti> :P
[00:54] <Milotin> bascule : /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[00:54] <turdy> I have a analogue tv tuner card (Yuan PG600), Ubuntu installed the IVTV driver for me
[00:54] <turdy> so that's all good
[00:54] <bascule> Milotin: looks god
[00:54] <Fezzler> Sound not working in Flash?
[00:54] <turdy> but for some strange reason, the card is on mute and no matter what I do, I can't unmute it
[00:54] <hyperb0lix> Fezzler: I had that problem with older Flash
[00:54]  * sulle brb to teh internets
[00:54] <turdy> I can see video though
[00:54] <turdy> can anyone offer me any advice?
[00:54] <bascule> Milotin: so say ls in a shell, does it respond?
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> turdy: some tv cards are easy, some are hard...
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> mine was pretty easy
[00:55] <wers> I was going to send a group merry christmas message to my contacts on pidgin. any idea on how I could do it? :)
[00:55] <turdy> I was just oging to buy a new one but its god damn expensive for an analogue tv card
[00:55] <Milotin> bascule : yes , everything else works fine
[00:55] <turdy> and aI'm not even entirely sure if its the drivers fault
[00:55] <Fezzler> I use Road Runner.  Video sound and all other sound work.  Just not flash on their online radio?
[00:55] <bascule> Milotin: which command fails?
[00:55] <Falados> turdy: Did you try the sound controller? You probably need to view all of the sliders so that you can unmute them
[00:56] <turdy> tried that
[00:56] <bqmassey> if i've navigated to a folder with the File Browser,.. is there a way to open open a terminal thats already at that location?
[00:56] <turdy> didn't work
[00:56] <turdy> I checked using the vl4ctl tool
[00:56] <Falados> turdy: Are you sure you selected the right device?
[00:56] <turdy> and it says the audio is muted
[00:56] <Milotin> bascule : ./httpd ; ./ircd
[00:56] <tacone> sigh, I like mono, but mono doesn't like me.
[00:56] <turdy> I can hear music and everything
[00:56] <turdy> just the freaking tv tuner card decides to produce no audio
[00:56] <turdy> (as you can imagine, tv without sound isn't much fun)
[00:56] <biouser> what is the channel for open office questions?
[00:56] <thor> bqmassey in xfce if you right click on the folder there is a menu item for Open Terminal Here
[00:56] <bascule> Milotin: cause you need to be in the directory those files reside, hence the ./
[00:57] <Falados> If it's a huge problem, you can probably get a cable to go from your Tuner's audio out to your sound card's line-in
[00:57] <Milotin> bascule the point is i am there
[00:57] <nickrud_> bqmassey, install nautilus-open-terminal , it'll be in your context menu
[00:57] <turdy> Falados: The tuner doesn't have an audio out
[00:57] <bascule> Milotin: ?? weird
[00:57] <Falados> turdy: Ah, darn
[00:57] <turdy> It sucks!
[00:57] <turdy> everything works, just the stupid audio
[00:57] <bqmassey> thanks nickrud_
[00:57] <Falados> turdy: I had a 10$ tuner, isnt' worth the silicon its printed on
[00:58] <arash> biouser - #openoffice.org
[00:58] <biouser> I am inputing data into the spreadsheet and I would like to be able to see the first entry in the column
[00:58] <turdy> hehehehe...
[00:58] <biouser> arash, thx
[00:58] <turdy> I've been waiting for someone to respond in ivtv-dev channel
[00:58] <turdy> but they're all in holiday mode or something
[00:58] <bascule> turdy: what card, there may be parameters required for the module
[00:58] <hyperb0lix> HOLIDAY MODE WOOOO
[00:58] <arash> biouser:  feel free for wild guesses pal, simply #openoffice redirects to openoffice.org
[00:58] <steini> turdy: youcan't get the ALSA working?
[00:59] <turdy> ALSA works
[00:59] <turdy> I can play mp3s and everything
[00:59] <steini> ah ok
[00:59] <FishFace1> Just wondering turdy, who makes the TV card?
[00:59] <turdy> its a Yuan PG600
[01:00] <turdy> its also rebranded as a Diamond PG550 I believe
[01:00] <bascule> turdy: what chit bt878?
[01:00] <bascule> chip
[01:00] <turdy> its a ct something or rather
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> if its a bt878, it shoudln't need ivtv.. just install TVTime, or KDETV, or whatever, and it should work fine.
[01:00] <sterling> I am wondering...
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> sterling: well, we aren't mind readers
[01:01] <sterling> What is the best windows emulator, that runs the fastest and runs COD 4 on it?
[01:01] <sterling> anyone kno?
[01:01] <hyperb0lix> sterling: I just use VMware Player
[01:01] <dagon^> does anyone have a Hauppage WinTV TV-card?
[01:01] <sterling> Does that playu COD 4?
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> dagon^: i have a PVR-150
[01:01] <hyperb0lix> sterling: I have no idea what COD 4 is
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> i think thats a hauppage
[01:01] <hyperb0lix> CALL OF DUTY
[01:01] <hyperb0lix> nvm
[01:02] <sterling> Call of Duty 4
[01:02] <bascule> turdy: lspci -v should show the chip number as well as the vendor string
[01:02] <hyperb0lix> Erm, vmware might be slow
[01:02] <Dr_willis> COD4 is so new.. I would be suprised if it runs with wine/cedega
[01:02] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; so do I, does it work smoothly?
[01:02] <tacone> dagon^: me
[01:02] <Dr_willis> vmware is not for 3d games. :)
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> i have no probs with it at all, owrked out of the box.
[01:02] <hyperb0lix> Dr_willis: Yeah :P
[01:02] <dagon^> :D
[01:02] <dagon^> sweet
[01:02] <sterling> what does Indy?
[01:02] <turdy> IndyGunFreak: But that card is expensive
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Theres the 3d game aspect.. then thers the 'uber copy protection' these new titles have on them that also mess with wine/cedega
[01:02] <bqmassey> nickrud_:  do i have to restart ubuntu?
[01:02] <dagon^> what card is expensive?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> turdy: i think i paid like 40-50 for mine, i don't know.
[01:03] <turdy> where from?
[01:03] <Dr_willis> I got a PVR150 card also.
[01:03] <turdy> cause that's the thing, I'm thinking of just buying that card
[01:03] <dagon^> I paid about 1000SEK for my PVR150
[01:03] <turdy> and throw out that freaking Yuan PG600
[01:03] <Dr_willis> got it and a remote last year on sale for like $100 or less. - rebates
[01:03] <sterling> I know I have the the hardwar to run COD 4, but need a windows client that works with it.
[01:03] <tacone> IndyGunFreak: I cannot make my hauppage work. what model do you have ?
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: i never got the remote to work.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> tacone: pvr150
[01:03] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  i got it working with mYthtv - but its sluggish.. so i just use a wireless keyboard
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: i use VLC and terminal to change channels, works awesome.
[01:04] <tacone> I see. I have hvr 1200, which simply don't work.
[01:04] <dagon^> I hope I can get my PVT150 to work without troubles
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> PVT 150?.. never heard of that one, don't know.
[01:04] <turdy> dagon^: Most ppl seem to have no problems with it
[01:05] <dagon^> good
[01:05] <dagon^> thinking of making a TV-computer with Ubuntu as OS :)
[01:05] <turdy> so no-one has any experience with ivtv doing weird stuff?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  I just use it with Mythtv. :)  i rarely watch live tv withit
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> dagon^: thats pretty much what i have.
[01:05] <bascule> tacone: there are a lot of modprobe options on bt878 see kernel docs
[01:05] <turdy> dagon^: I spent the whole week doing that
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: all i watch is live TV..lol
[01:05] <turdy> got everything going except for TV
[01:05] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; sweet :D
[01:05] <turdy> I have TV with NO FREAKING AUDIO
[01:05] <tacone> bascule: can you give me any link ?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  with MythTV i can record the live tv.. and zap out comercials...
[01:06] <tacone> bascule: I tried a lot of things. now I am hoping with some kind of compatibility with hvr1600.
[01:06] <bascule> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20/Documentation/video4linux/bttv
[01:06] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; does it work with regular videos and such, I mean, can you skip to next video and such?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: i don't generally record, i figure if i can't watch it live, i don't need to watch it.
[01:06] <the_darkside_986> hey everyone... how can i convert a CD into mp3's? yes i would militantly defend ogg vorbis, but this is for my mom whose mp3 player doesn't like that format. any ideas?
[01:06] <dagon^> lot's of such there -,-
[01:06] <hyperb0lix> the_darkside_986: You could use Grip to rip the CD
[01:06] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  with that logic.. i wouldent even need a tv. :) i work 2nd shift..
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> dagon^: i don't use it to record live TV, so i couldn't tell you, i just use it like a normal television
[01:06] <grody> the_darkside_986, grip+lame
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: info-mercials are awesome-o..lol
[01:07] <the_darkside_986> lame keeps saying that the wave is not in 32 bit format. i'm trying to perform lame on wav files...
[01:07] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; aha, I'll try myself then :D
[01:07] <the_darkside_986> actually, the message all mp3 encoders give me is: "<file> is not in 32, 44.1 or 48 kHz!" but i'll try the Grip program thanks
[01:07] <bascule> the_darkside_986: file some.wav, what does the report
[01:07] <grody> the_darkside_986, you have to extract the digital audio into .wav format
[01:07] <tacone> bascule: I don't have that file
[01:07] <hyperb0lix> the_darkside_986: Grip utilizes lame if you want MP3 encoding
[01:08] <bascule> tacone: it's in kernel source
[01:08] <fsanlu> i have a small question guys: ive just actually recently fixed my wifi to get online (it was disabled) but now that i get online it drops off the connection from time to time id say a ~10 minute lifespan. i really dont know what can be doing it. some info about my stuff: im using the restricted firmware to get my wireless card working. and to connect to the router its a WPA.. im not sure what makes me drop off :(
[01:08] <the_darkside_986> i ripped the wavs with serpentine. serpentine utterly refuses to let me select a mp3 "profile"
[01:08] <bascule> tacone: linux-source-2.6.22
[01:08] <Lunar_Lamp> fsanlu, that sounds to me like unclear signal.
[01:08] <tacone> I don't have in my generic kernel
[01:08] <fsanlu> Lunar_Lamp: it wouldnt make sense, for none of the other computers running windows drop off :\
[01:09] <hyperb0lix> the_darkside_986: lame isn't encoding the wavs as mp3s?
[01:09] <racarter> i have a toshiba satellite A135-S4467, i believe it is 64 bit but im not sure, should i install ubuntu 7.10 with the standard distro or the 64bit AMD and Intel distro?
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp> Do they have the same wireless card?
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp> And are they in the same place?
[01:09] <tacone> bascule, I don't have it.
[01:09] <EdwardXP> I have some major concrens about ubuntu
[01:09] <EdwardXP> well just 2 actually
[01:09] <grody> shoot
[01:09] <pvl1> fsanlu: are the restricteds the only way u can get it working?
[01:09] <fsanlu> Lunar_Lamp: i have another laptop just like this. so yes, im right next to it
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp> fsanlu, ok
[01:09] <tacone> I've got Documentation, but not video4linux
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> EdwardXP: and those are?
[01:09] <grody> fsanlu, how have you configured the wifi card?
[01:09] <the_darkside_986> i've been trying to apply lame to *.wav from the commandline but now i will try a real GUI tool like Grip
[01:10] <EdwardXP> IndyGunFreak, wwhen you install a .sh file' is there a record of where those files are going, so u don't lose tract?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> EdwardXP: i don't know the answer to that, sorry
[01:10] <grody> EdwardXP, in the .sh file itself
[01:10] <tacone> bascule: how do I get that on gutsy ?
[01:10] <racarter> i have a toshiba satellite A135-S4467, i believe it is 64 bit but im not sure, should i install ubuntu 7.10 with the standard distro or the 64bit AMD and Intel distro?
[01:10] <turdy> how much space do i need to give for the ubuntu installation
[01:10] <racarter> sorry to repeat, any advice on that question though?
[01:10] <boo> hey uh can i get some holiday help with booting?  it involves (although isnt totally a problem involving) windows, grub, and MBRs, all that good stuff.  can anyone help?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> racarter: if you have to ask, start w/ the standard 32bit version
[01:10] <fsanlu> grody: well i was looking at the docs and i found that my card was disabled. so what i did was i installed the bcm43xx-wcutter package and downloaded the .o file firmware to let it enable.. then boom my wireless card suddenly turned on
[01:10] <grody> Turdy, as much as you can, but a gig would suffice
[01:11] <turdy> I only have 30 gig hardisk and windows is taking
[01:11] <EdwardXP> grody,  when you install a program a .sh file it installs and the command works, but it doesn't show up in the applications menu
[01:11] <racarter> i had actually installed the 64 bit version successfully before
[01:11] <bascule> tacone: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.22
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> racarter: 64bit requires some hoop jumping that frustrates newbies(like web plugins, etc..)
[01:11] <FishFace1> fsanlu: Only guessing here.  Have you tried a different USB port? And are you using a USB hub by chance? How about trying a different port?
[01:11] <arash> grody, are you saying 1 GB ise nought for Ubuntu?
[01:11] <hyperb0lix> racarter: Then best you stick with 64
[01:11] <grody> ahh fsanlu, you need to configure the card to associate, authenticate & connect to it
[01:11] <EdwardXP> grody, no where in there, and just for any reason, how do u uninstall a .sh file
[01:11] <racarter> but i wasn't able to get some stuff to work
[01:11] <bascule> tacone: was away trying to find it online, not easy
[01:11] <hyperb0lix> racarter: nvm
[01:11] <hyperb0lix> :P
[01:11] <fsanlu> FishFacel: im not sure what you mean
[01:11] <FishFace1> fsanlu: Its a USB wirless adapter?
[01:12] <fsanlu> grody: how would i be able to do that? its a built in ethernet card
[01:12] <grody> EdwardXP, the .sh should give you the option, but all the places where files are stored have to put into the .sh
[01:12] <racarter> ok, next question about ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop.. is there any special precautions i should take since i have vista installed on the first partition?
[01:12] <tacone> bascule, I am doing
[01:12] <grody> fsanlu, you mean an internal wifi card?
[01:12] <nicholas> NICK Nikobee
[01:12] <hyperb0lix> racarter: Yeah, take extra special precaution with Vista
[01:12] <fsanlu> grody: yes
[01:12] <nicholas> NICK <Nikobee>
[01:12] <grody> fsanlu, man wpa_supplicant :)
[01:12] <racarter> thanks.. um, any particular precautions?
[01:12] <dagon^> IndyGunFreak; any experience with bluetooth usb-adapter?
[01:12] <grody> if you run kde, knetworkmanager
[01:12] <intelikey> i have an nvidia riva128 agp card, which seems to act strangly in this dell box.  it worked flawlessly in another box tho.    (same os, same driver 'nv')    thoughts ?
[01:12] <racarter> is it ok to use grub with vista?
[01:12] <hyperb0lix> racarter: It has been known to make your laptop implode spontaneously
[01:12] <grody> for gnome, network-manager, but im not sure it deals with WPA
[01:12] <fiXXXerMet> Wondering if anyone here has any experience with installing Linux/Ubuntu on an IBM XSeries 225, specifically with a LSI53C1030 raid controller?
[01:13] <racarter> yeah serious hyperb0lix, my computer stopped booting at some point with vista
[01:13] <fsanlu> grody: man wpa_supplicant?
[01:13] <racarter> alright, i will install grub and assume everything will boot normally then..
[01:13] <ciphercast> fiXXXerMet: whats the problem?
[01:13] <tacone> bascule, I installed. it's a tgz
[01:13] <grody> yes fsanlu, you will need that if you're running a WPA router
[01:13] <EdwardXP> grody,  can i send you the file
[01:13] <grody> man is just the man page to it
[01:13] <fsanlu> grody: hmm can i just take the easy way and make the router WEP? acuse i can do that
[01:14] <x_or> Can anyone recommend a simple mail server?  I simply want to accept mail from any address, and then process the mail using a procmail filter.  I'd prefer something that has a curses or web based configuration tool so I don't have to learn a configuration format syntax.
[01:14] <grody> EdwardXP, what is it?
[01:14] <tyrone>  
[01:14] <EdwardXP> crossover
[01:14] <grody> fsanlu, you could.. but you would need to enter the WEP key into ifconfig or iwconfig
[01:14] <grody> EdwardXP, it gives you an option where to store the files
[01:14] <fiXXXerMet> ciphercast: Two things.  1:  I don't know how to tell the integrated RAID hardware software to let me do a software raid through Ubuntu (mdadm).  But more importantly, when I start to install ubuntu, it doesn't detect the disks or the controller and prompts me for a drive.
[01:14] <fiXXXerMet> driver*
[01:15] <intelikey> x_or define simple.   simple in it's codebase  or simple in it's configuration ?
[01:15] <grody> all files that are extracted are normally put in /tmp
[01:15] <bascule> tacone: sudo tar zxvf the.tgz
[01:15] <fsanlu> grody: okay ill just play around with this then :] btw just curious when u type to me it flashes (im using x-chat) am i doing it right by typing ur name and adding a colon? hehehe.
[01:15] <grody> fsanlu, colon, comma, whatever :P
[01:16] <x_or> intelikey:  simple in the configuration.  I don't care about the language it is written in, just want something that does not require a lot of reading to get up to speed.  I admit up front I am ignorant of mail servers and the protocols.
[01:16] <grody> mine flashes too fsanlu, its usually when someone says your name
[01:16] <EdwardXP> nothing
[01:16] <x_or> I just want to receive all mail on my host and process using a procmail filter.
[01:16] <fsanlu> grody ohhhhhh hahahahahaa its like magic alright ill play around with this for awhile :] thanks for the input
[01:16] <_6StringKng_> where in the Configuration Editor is the option to show mounted drives on the desktop?  I changed it a while back but want it so I can see a thumb drive on the desktop
[01:16] <tacone> bascule: ok, I extracted only video4linux
[01:16] <grody> EdwardXP, what exactly are you trying to do.. because when you run xover, it asks you where to install too
[01:16] <ciphercast> fiXXXerMet: can do go into the bios and turn off the raid controller?
[01:16] <grody> yw fsanlu
[01:17] <x_or> intelikey:  Thanks for your response and input, btw.
[01:17] <bascule> tacone: well go from there in the dir are a lot of text files with explanations of things to try
[01:17] <intelikey> x_or fetchmail   but even it requires some reading    so...  not really.
[01:17] <ciphercast> I'm only familiar with aftermarket integrated raid controllers
[01:17] <fiXXXerMet> ciphercast: I looked, and couldn't find it.  There is a bios update out that I am going to install shortly.
[01:17] <_6StringKng_> help, anyone?  I changed it to where I can'
[01:17] <x_or> intelikey:  Is there anything that has a web configuration front end that you know of?
[01:17] <_6StringKng_> t
[01:17] <_6StringKng_> see the drives mounted on the desktop
[01:17] <rainwalker> are there any common ways to get webcams to work?
[01:17] <jinxed-> hey
[01:17] <_6StringKng_> in the configuration editor, I forgoty what I changed, lol, now I want it back
[01:17] <x_or> intelikey:  I think postfix might be the right one to use.
[01:17] <bascule> rainwalker: plug and pray :)
[01:18] <intelikey> x_or hmmm///   let me think.
[01:18] <dagon^> rainwalker; hmm, for msn?
[01:18] <rainwalker> bascule: atheist =(
[01:18] <bascule> :)
[01:18] <rainwalker> dagon^: amsn
[01:18] <EdwardXP> grody,  just a secc...
[01:18] <dagon^> rainwalker; yeah, that's what I meant :P just plug and play
[01:18] <arash> bascule, good one ;), often jsut the solution is jsut to plug the device in
[01:18] <tacone> bascule: how do I know which chipset my card uses ?
[01:18] <rainwalker> dagon^: and if that doesn't work?
[01:18] <bascule> works for me
[01:18] <dagon^> rainwalker; it will
[01:18] <jinxed-> I just updated from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my resolution is all messed up and it takes a long time to boot up. Also I had a dual boot between 7.04 and XP and now I have XP along with like 6 different versions of 7.10
[01:19] <bascule> tacone: lspci -v
[01:19] <rainwalker> dagon^: it doesn't
[01:19] <ciphercast> fiXXXerMet: otherwise, you'll probably need to configure the raid using the controller menu system
[01:19] <jewbilee> What file do I modify to change which partitions are mounted on startup?
[01:19] <bascule> tacone: also lsmod and dmesg to see what was/is detected
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> fstab
[01:19] <grody> x_or, you want a gui frontend to configure a mail server?
[01:19] <fiXXXerMet> jewbilee: /etc/fstab
[01:19] <rainwalker> dagon^: when I try to set it up, it recognizes the model and everything, but it gets some error
[01:19] <the_darkside_986> Grip seems to be working. Thanks everyone for the help. Maybe someday ogg vorbis will rule the world. until then... :(
[01:19] <dagon^> rainwalker; in amsn, start a conversation, click the webcam down by the field where you type, and it works :)
[01:19] <fsanlu> what i like is.. how this community is just so helpful with one another. its like refreshing to know its not a bunch of snobs that hate on you. haha one day i shall know a lot about this stuff to help others too
[01:19] <jewbilee> fiXXXerMet: thanks
[01:19] <dagon^> rainwalker; oh
[01:19] <dagon^> rainwalker; is it a very old webcam?
[01:20] <rainwalker> dagon^: I don't know
[01:20] <rainwalker> a year or two?
[01:20] <dagon^> hmm
[01:20] <dagon^> should be no problems then
[01:20] <rainwalker> dagon^: hang on, I'll do it again and tell you what it says
[01:20] <dagon^> ok
[01:20] <bascule> fsanlu: walk in the light side you will
[01:21] <tacone> bascule:  Conexant Unknown device 8852 (rev 02)  ... (unknown ?!)
[01:21] <fiXXXerMet> Another question.  Let's say that I get the driver for my controller and install Ubuntu on it, using raid 1.  The server supports hot swapping drives..  Nee dI do anything special to make this work in Ubuntu?
[01:21] <intelikey> x_or ssmtp "might"  i don't really recall   but   fetchmailconf   is a gui that helps you setup fetchmail     makes it "newbe friendly"
[01:21] <rainwalker> dagon^: sent request to send webcam
[01:21] <rainwalker> dagon^: the only problem is that the person isn't there to accept
[01:21] <bascule> not neccessarily, could be a modem, but if so, no driver by the looks, dump lspci -v to pastebin for me
[01:21] <dagon^> rainwalker; then it's ok my friend
[01:21] <bascule> tacone: ^^
[01:21] <rainwalker> no, it doesn't work when they accept
[01:21] <x_or> intelikey:  Is fetchmail an equivalent to postfix?  I used postfix long in the past.
[01:21] <rainwalker> dagon^: I just can't remember what it says
[01:22] <grody> fetchmail is a cli pop mail fetcher
[01:22] <dagon^> rainwalker; it doesn't? hmm, weird
[01:22] <rainwalker> dagon^: something like "grabber not available" I think
[01:22] <grody> x_or *
[01:22] <Phophos> Hey, I've lost all sound from ALSA, I have no idea what the problem is: Can someone offer some support?
[01:22] <fabio> !Pt
[01:22] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[01:22] <arash> jinxed- , resetting the xorg.conf file perhaps culd help?
[01:22] <dagon^> rainwalker; oh, that has never appeared to me
[01:22] <x_or> grody:  Sorry?
[01:22] <tacone> bascule: ok, I promised myself not even looking into this before the new year. going to get some cigarettes :-)
[01:22] <intelikey> gordy fetchmail is cli but fetchmailconf is a gui configurator for it.
[01:22] <x_or> grody:  Oh, got it
[01:22] <tacone> thank you !
[01:22] <rainwalker> dagon^: ahhh I have the worst luck with gadgets lately
[01:22] <bascule> tacone: cool
[01:22] <fsanlu> so just a question how many of you are majoring in computer science or something related per chance?
[01:23] <grody> x_or, if you want a simple way to configure postfix or sendmail, try out webmin :)
[01:23] <rainwalker> dagon^: do you have msn? so I could show you what it's saying?
[01:23] <dagon^> rainwalker; just chill man, everything will work out just fine eventually :)
[01:23] <arash> fsanlu, all of us. Isn't that obvious?
[01:23] <x_or> grody, intelikey:  I think I would still need postfix or another MTA, in addition to fetchmail, right?
[01:23] <intelikey> yeah webmin.   i should have thought of that.
[01:23] <Phophos> Hey, I've lost all sound from ALSA, I have no idea what the problem is: Can someone offer some support?
[01:23] <bascule> x_or: only to send mail
[01:23] <intelikey> x_or sendmail :)
[01:24] <bascule> yeah, easy config
[01:24] <grody> x_or, they can be used in tandom.. i used to, fetcmail to grab mail from isp & then deliver it into my local mail system which i then pick up at home
[01:24] <fsanlu> arash: i guess that would be.. hahaha.
[01:24] <bascule> lmao
[01:24] <rainwalker> Phophos: just a chance, but have you checked to make sure nothing is muted?
[01:24] <x_or> bascule:  grody, intelikey:  webmin is not in the standard repository, is it in a non-std repo, or do I need to download and install myself.  Neither is a problem.
[01:24] <x_or> bascule:  I need to receive mail, not send.
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> fsanlu: While your enthusiasm is appreciated.  The off topic chat will get you booted on a normal busy day in here
[01:24] <grody> ahh, you'll need to go to the website.. they have a .deb package :)
[01:24] <intelikey> !info webmin
[01:24] <Phophos> rainwalker: I'll check one last time ... Nothing except microphone is muted.
[01:24] <x_or> grody:  I want to receive mail on my DSL connection, persistent host, my ISP does not receive mail for me.
[01:25] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in gutsy
[01:25] <grody> x_or, http://www.webmin.com
[01:25] <bascule> x_or: you need postfix of qmail
[01:25] <intelikey> x_or nope no package in the repos
[01:25] <grody> x_or, why not use a mail forwarder or something, like use webmail & have all your mail sent there?
[01:26] <grody> if you want to send mail from home, just setup a local postfix & use that
[01:26] <jcg42> If I'm about to install Ubuntu should I hook up all of my hardware (Extra Monitor, Printer, etc.) before or after installing and setting up?
[01:26] <bascule> x_or: and you might find the isp blocks 25 and 80
[01:26] <nicholas> Could someone recommend a C++ Audio library?
[01:26] <grody> jcg42, no harm in whilst the install
[01:26] <x_or> grody:  I want to receive email on my host so I can use a procmail filter to process it as it comes in.  I don't need to read in any other fashion.
[01:27] <matrix_> hi,everyone
[01:27] <bascule> hi
[01:27] <jcg42> grody, huh?
[01:27] <grody> x_or, fetchmail to grab it, postfix to process it & store it
[01:27] <matrix_> why cannot i halt my computer?
[01:27] <grody> jcg42, before the install (during)
[01:27] <grody> matrix_, are you root?
[01:27] <jcg42> grody, Thank you
[01:27] <matrix_> every time i halt my computer,it said system halted,but just stopped there
[01:27] <grody> ahh
[01:27] <grody> it does
[01:28] <bascule> doesn't like psu/mobo
[01:28] <matrix_> yes, i installed the system
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> jcg42: what type of dual monitors card do you have?
[01:28] <bascule> very rare these days
[01:28] <grody> matrix_, possible you have a buggy ACPI/APM bios
[01:28] <matrix_> grody: what do you mean
[01:29] <matrix_> so ho to?
[01:29] <matrix_> grody: it said system halted,but cannot halt,cannot off my computer
[01:29] <grody> matrix_, try 'sudo shutdown -P now'
[01:29] <x_or> intelikey, bascule, grody:  Wow, webmin is freaking awesome.
[01:29] <grody> that /should/ do it
[01:30] <BHSPitMonkey> Anyone know what causes the fade-out effect when the screen saver kicks in?
[01:30] <grody> x_or, just be careful to firewall it or make it listen only on loopback :)
[01:30] <grody> BHSPitMonkey, i think that's xscreensaver that does it
[01:31] <bascule> yeah, can fade in and out, xscreensaver-demo to launch the config util
[01:31] <rainwalker> BHSPitMonkey: I always thought that was compiz fusion doing that...
[01:31] <BHSPitMonkey> rainwalker, heh, even in dapper and edgy and feisty?
[01:31] <bascule> nah, done that for years
[01:31] <rainwalker> BHSPitMonkey: it faded in those?
[01:31] <BHSPitMonkey> yeah
[01:31] <rainwalker> oh
[01:31] <intelikey> i have an nvidia riva128 agp card, which seems to act strangly in this dell box.  it worked flawlessly in another box tho.    (same os, same driver 'nv')    thoughts ?
[01:31] <bascule> adjustable in and out
[01:31] <grody> lol
[01:31] <rainwalker> never noticed
[01:32] <bascule> rainwalker: gnome and kde don't, xscreensaver its self does
[01:32] <intelikey> anyone ?
[01:32] <rainwalker> so I'm guessing Logitech doesn't have the best linux support does it?
[01:32] <BHSPitMonkey> intelikey, strangely how?
[01:32] <dagon^> rainwalker; it works just fine
[01:32] <dagon^> my webcam is logitech
[01:32] <BHSPitMonkey> rainwalker, not across the board
[01:32] <bascule> rainwalker: there webcams mostly work
[01:32] <rainwalker> dagon^: what do you have?
[01:32] <intelikey> staticy lines scroll down the screen sometimes BHSPitMonkey
[01:32] <dagon^> rainwalker; some older Logitech
[01:32] <BHSPitMonkey> my logitech webcam sort of works.  It works in ubuntu on my laptop, but on my desktop it causes kernel panics.
[01:32] <rainwalker> bascule: well for some reason mine won't
[01:33] <BHSPitMonkey> I even changed motherboards and it does the same.
[01:33] <rainwalker> dagon^: mines older too...this is so unfair
[01:33] <dagon^> :p
[01:33] <BHSPitMonkey> intelikey, odd;  sure it's not the display dying?
[01:33] <dagon^> life is unfair
[01:33] <bascule> i know almost nothing of webcams
[01:33] <intelikey> BHSPitMonkey it's not constant.  but it is frequent and very annoying
[01:33] <rainwalker> the weird thing is that i used some app called cheese that connected to it fine, but amsn won't
[01:33] <intelikey> BHSPitMonkey what do you mean ?
[01:33] <bascule> heh, get the same on windows all the time
[01:34] <BHSPitMonkey> rainwalker, then it's amsn's fault
[01:34] <bascule> some apps work, others don't
[01:34] <BHSPitMonkey> intelikey, are you sure it's not the monitor
[01:34] <rainwalker> BHSPitMonkey: I figured
[01:34] <dagon^> rainwalker; try the latest version of amsn
[01:34] <rainwalker> dagon^: I installed via synaptic
[01:34] <intelikey> BHSPitMonkey the card ?   oh monitor.....   no.
[01:34] <Pelo> !enter | bascule
[01:34] <ubotu> bascule: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:34] <intelikey> BHSPitMonkey i can swap the monitor out and prove that tho.
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: 6# girl.....
[01:35] <bascule> bit harsh Pelo
[01:35] <nickrud_> Jack_Sparrow, congrats
[01:35] <nickrud_> Jack_Sparrow, or more better, your niece
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yep...
[01:35] <intelikey> BHSPitMonkey also it only does it in graphics mode
[01:35] <Pelo> is one of you two gonna bring me into the loop on this little OT ?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Niece just had her baby
[01:36] <Rufus_> when i try to add a user through the terminal, it says only root can add a user. How can i add one through my account?
[01:36] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, congrats I guess, weight ?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:36] <BHSPitMonkey> Pelo, all of his messages were complete thoughts
[01:36] <intelikey> rufus you can't.
[01:37] <Pelo> Rufus_,  use sudo before the command
[01:37] <nickrud_> Rufus_, sudo adduser <user> , you need to use sudo to get yourself root (admin) privs
[01:37] <Rufus_> thanks
[01:37] <AimLXJ> Hi I need help about Grub.
[01:37] <intelikey> Rufus_ only root can.    sudo is an app that lets you use your user password to gain root access.
[01:37] <Pelo> AimLXJ, what is your issue ?
[01:38] <AimLXJ> I cannot boot into Windows XP nor Windows VIsta, I have tried (hd0,0)-(hd0,5)
[01:38] <AimLXJ> Through the menu.lst
[01:38] <Pelo> AimLXJ, what is the devtree of the xp partiton ?
[01:38] <dagon^> AimLXJ; did you install windows first?
[01:38] <Rufus_> Thank YOu
[01:38] <mic21_> I have a lot of error in my dmesg file like : RPC: failed to contact local rpcbind server (errno 5). I use Ubuntu server and I sometimes need to restart the NFS server  'cause of time out ...
[01:38] <AimLXJ> Yes I installed WIndows first.
[01:38] <dagon^> then that's right
[01:38] <Pelo> AimLXJ, can you paste bin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file so we can have a look
[01:39] <mic21_> "lockd_up: makesock failed, error=-5" and "rpcbind: server localhost not responding, timed out"
[01:39] <nickrud_> !pastebin | AimLXJ  (just in case)
[01:39] <ubotu> AimLXJ  (just in case): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:39] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Okay
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> dagon^: You can install windows second and make it work, but agreed it is much easier the other way around
[01:39] <dagon^> Jack_Sparrow; well, I learned to install windows first :) I'm just a noob :P
[01:39] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Do you want me to paste it right here?
[01:40] <Pelo> AimLXJ,  no
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> dagon^: That is the recommended and easier way
[01:40] <Pelo> !pastebin | AimLXJ
[01:40] <ubotu> AimLXJ: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> AimLXJ:  no
[01:40] <dagon^> Jack_Sparrow; so a friend told me
[01:40] <nickrud_> dagon^, you have a good friend there,feed him candy
[01:40] <dagon^> nickrud_; lol :P
[01:40] <redd0t> is anybody having a problem with artifacts appearing in the window border in gnome while using advanced desktop effects
[01:40] <Pelo> dagon^, if you instal windows first , the ubuntu installer sees that there is more then ubuntu on the comp and makes an extra menu entry for windows,
[01:41] <dagon^> yeees
[01:41] <nickrud_> redd0t, with ati ?
[01:41] <boo> hey whats a hex viewer for ubunut?
[01:41] <AimLXJ> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49515/
[01:41] <bascule> boo: hexedit
[01:41] <Pelo> redd0t, that might happen if your card is borderline
[01:41] <dagon^> and windows don't try to rape the boot
[01:41] <Pelo> AimLXJ, hold on
[01:41] <redd0t> nickrud: no, thats whats weird i have an nvidia 5600
[01:41] <redd0t> Pelo: i didnt have the problem in kde though.
[01:41] <dagon^> haha
[01:41] <dagon^> Kaka in albanian means poo
[01:41] <Pelo> redd0t, same issue
[01:42] <redd0t> Pelo: i did a reinstall and just decided to wait to install kde until kde4
[01:42] <black_helicopter> unny
[01:42] <redd0t> Pelo: oh. okay
[01:42] <black_helicopter> funny
[01:42] <bascule> redd0t: long wail
[01:42] <redd0t> bascule: jan 18
[01:42] <chad> hey
[01:42] <Pelo> redd0t, dekstop manager you use is unrelated to the problem
[01:42] <bascule> redd0t: in terms of ubuntu one after hardy, so october 2008
[01:43] <redd0t> bascule: it will still be in teh repos though
[01:43] <nickrud_> bascule, no, I read on nixternal's blog that kde4 will be available in hardy
[01:43] <chad> hey every1
[01:43] <Pelo> AimLXJ, , can you tell me the /dev/hd***  add of the windows xp partiton ?
[01:43] <SAVVYDK1> help, all my sound is skipping all over the place, sounds like a cd with a million scratches on it
[01:43] <redd0t> Pelo: but why in gnome and not in kde. i had no problems with artifacts before the reinstall
[01:43] <SAVVYDK1> how do i make it go away???
[01:43] <chad> so..
[01:43] <bascule> redd0t: maybe unofficial ones, but official I doubt it, could .. thanks nickrud_
[01:43] <virza> .dal.net
[01:44] <Pelo> redd0t,  no idea, mabe the ppl in #compiz have a clue
[01:44] <AimLXJ> Pelo: It's a sda2
[01:44] <redd0t> okay, thanks
[01:44] <chad> im new to all this
[01:44] <Pelo> SAVVYDK1, reboot, make sure you don'T have so much stuff using your cpu that you don'T have any mem or cpu left and try it
[01:44] <Pelo> AimLXJ, and the vista one ?
[01:45] <AimLXJ> Pelo: sda5
[01:45] <SAVVYDK1> i'll try it, I know i have memory and cpu to plare, tho
[01:45] <SAVVYDK1> bb
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I am thinking he may have a recovery partition on there.. maybe fdisk -l
[01:45] <Rufus_> in x-chat, how can i have two networks open at the same time?
[01:45] <intelikey> "that you don'T have any mem left" ?    heh.
[01:45] <redd0t> Pelo: the problem happens when im not doing anything. my pc is a pos, but my friends is fairly new and his has same issue
[01:45] <GHOST> lol why is xchat is running when a log in my session?
[01:45] <Pelo> AimLXJ, ok  line 157 should read  root (hd0,1) and line 166 should read root (hd0,4)
[01:45] <Rufus_> i found it
[01:46] <GHOST> why is xchat is running when a log in my session?
[01:46] <dagon^> GHOST; nice english there :)
[01:46] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, we don'T want to boot the recovery partiton anyway , I'M not sure waht fdisk -L would do
[01:47] <intelikey> GHOST you closed the session with it running ?
[01:47] <GHOST> intelikey i just reboot my pc
[01:47] <ironfoot> I had so trouble with phpmy admin that I removed it and now I'm reinstalling it is there a good way to reinstall it?
[01:47] <GHOST> intelikey yes ho isee lol
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Tell us if it had one or not...  Sorry, kinda exhausted here...
[01:47] <tacone> ubotu: get a life
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about get a life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <rainwalker> dagon^: do you want to know the error that amsn is giving me?
[01:47] <dagon^> rainwalker; sure
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tacone: Behave
[01:48] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Okay I'm going to reboot the computer, I'll come back if I have any more problems, thanks!
[01:48] <dagon^> rainwalker; I hope I can help you too :)
[01:48] <rainwalker> dagon^: what's pastebin's url?
[01:48] <intelikey> GHOST i'm not very familear with gnome,  but kde would remember what was running and restart it for you       "per default settings"
[01:48] <Pelo> GHOST, cause you have saved the session with xchat opened,  close xchat leave only the progs you want to autostart open and go to menu > system  > prefs > session , 3rd tab , save session,  do not autosave
[01:48] <dagon^> !paste
[01:48] <rainwalker> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <tacone> Sorry Jack_Sparrow
[01:48] <rainwalker> (haha I beat you)
[01:48] <dagon^> :)
[01:48] <GHOST> Pelo ok ty
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> tacone: np but you are yelling at a bot...
[01:48] <turdy> hmmm, I'm installing ubuntu, it just froze at "Detecting Hardware, please wait..."
[01:48] <GHOST> better go to sleep
[01:48] <turdy> what should I do?
[01:48] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, don't worry about it , your comment was just over my head, remember I'm a pretty nooby helper
[01:48] <rainwalker> dagon^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49516/
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: you do great..
[01:49] <Phophos> How would one change from GDM to KDE, by the by?
[01:49] <GHOST> hey! merry xmas
[01:49]  * Pelo needs to stay up until at least 3AM,  he's got a 20h to 4h shift tomorrow 
[01:49] <bascule> Phophos: remove gdm and install kdm
[01:49] <GHOST> wtf!
[01:49] <rainwalker> Phophos: GDM and KDE are different
[01:49] <turdy> anyone?
[01:49] <turdy> what should I do
[01:49] <sksol> hey guys, i got a weird problem. i dont see window borders (the top bar with the exit and maximize buttons). and also my terminal window is completely white
[01:50] <sksol> what could it be?
[01:50] <Phophos> rainwalker: Yeah, I know they are :D Is it really that simple?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Phophos: install the second desktop and switch between them at the options section of you login screen
[01:50] <rainwalker> Phophos: I mean KDE and GDM have nothing to do with each other
[01:50] <GHOST> sksol ur window manager must closed
[01:50] <turdy> does ubuntu have a resume install function?
[01:50]  * bascule assumes Phophos meant kdm and not kde, perhaps wrongly
[01:50] <sksol> ghost, how can i turn it on?
[01:51] <rainwalker> Phophos: do you mean KDM?
[01:51] <GHOST> sksol if its gnome install metacity
[01:51] <sidewalk> i want a transparent terminal, but not gnome-terminal (cause it doesnt work with the font called "fixed")... which one do you guys recommend?
[01:51] <sksol> i got compiz...
[01:51] <Phophos> rainwalker: Erm. I thought I meant KDE. I'm talking about different window managers, correct?
[01:51] <sksol> yea, it is gnome, but i have compiz installed
[01:51] <bascule> sidewalk: opinions abound, Eterm is nice for me
[01:51] <GHOST> sksol sry i dont no compiz :s
[01:51] <rainwalker> Phophos: do you mean KDE vs GNOME?
[01:51] <nickrud_> oh, eterm is still around?
[01:51] <GHOST> gnome is k0.ol
[01:52] <bascule> sksol: try alt+f2 'nautilus --replace'
[01:52] <sidewalk> bascule: but Eterm isn't really transparent.. it shows the backgroundimage, but not other windows when the terminal is "on top" of them
[01:52] <GHOST> yep
[01:52] <dagon^> rainwalker; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[01:52] <rainwalker> Phophos: GDM is the login thing
[01:52] <dagon^> rainwalker; take a peak there, it might help
[01:52] <crimsun> sidewalk: sure it does.  You just need to tell fontconfig (via ~/.fonts.conf and dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config) to use bitmap fonts by default.
[01:52] <bascule> sidewalk: you need compiz for that trickery
[01:52] <nickrud_> sidewalk, really, none of the transparent terminals do that without compiz
[01:52] <Pelo> sksol, you need to install and use emerald to use some themes,  go and ask in #compiz-fusion they can tell you how to fix this quickly
[01:52] <rainwalker> dagon^: *clicks*
[01:52] <sksol> ok, thanks pelo! ill try that
[01:52] <sksol> :)
[01:52] <sidewalk> bascule: im using compiz
[01:53] <AimLXJ> Pelo: It didn't work
[01:53] <Phophos> rainwalker: Yep, I meant GNOME. Whoops.
[01:53] <Phophos> rainwalker: KDE vs GNOME :)
[01:53] <sidewalk> crimsun: say what?
[01:53] <rainwalker> dagon^: should I try easycam before easycam2?
[01:53] <Pelo> AimLXJ, paste bin the result of blkid please
[01:53] <rainwalker> Phophos: ok, that makes sense. so what are you trying to do?
[01:53]  * nickrud_ wonders why anyone really wants fixed anymore, anyway
[01:53] <bascule> sidewalk: hold down alt and spin the mousewheel
[01:53] <dagon^> rainwalker; woah, I don't know... since I've never had problems with my cam.. but try numero uno first
[01:53] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Where do I get that?
[01:53] <Pelo> AimLXJ, just type blkid in the terminal
[01:53] <Phophos> rainwalker: I don't like GNOME, I reckon KDE's better, I want to change. Is it going to be impossible?
[01:53] <intelikey> nickrud sorry, fixed what ?
[01:54] <Pelo> Phophos, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <rainwalker> Phophos: not at all! what are you running?
[01:54] <GHOST> sksol g0.od luck
[01:54] <nickrud> intelikey, fixed font, it's a bitmapped font, rather than a ttf font
[01:54] <Pelo> Phophos, I can get you a link to remove all the gnome packages if you want to
[01:54] <intelikey> ah   yeah.
[01:54] <Phophos> Pelo: Thanks, as easy as that?
[01:54] <Phophos> rainwalker: I'm running 7.10 at the minute.
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[01:55] <Pelo> Phophos, restart x and chose a kubuntu session
[01:55] <AimLXJ> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49517/
[01:55] <sidewalk> didn't like the alt+scrollwheel sollution
[01:55] <sidewalk> crimsun: what about .fonts.conf?
[01:55] <bascule> sidewalk: you probably need to enable some plugins I have forgotten about, #comiz will know
[01:55] <Phophos> Pelo, rainwalker: Thanks, I might try that when I get more crucial things working :D (Y)
[01:55] <bascule> sidewalk: cause that works here
[01:55] <Pelo> AimLXJ,  what is on the first partition on your computer ?
[01:56] <skywalking> hello , what is the RDP server ?
[01:56] <Thingus> I'm trying to get wireless working on a CLI install of Feisty. I'm using a BCM4318 and I have installed ndiswrapper from source. I can see wlan0 as my wireless card, and can see my access point with iwlist. How can I connect to it?
[01:56] <AimLXJ> Pelo: I believe it's the system recovery
[01:56] <sidewalk> bascule: oh oh oh
[01:56] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Because (hd0,0) started the system recovery but not Windows XP.
[01:56] <AimLXJ> Pelo: I mean (hd0,1)
[01:57] <crimsun> sidewalk: see http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2007/12/12/search-for-a-crisp-monospace-true-type-font/
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> pelo :)
[01:57] <rainwalker> "Please insert the disk labeled: Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) in drive /cdrom/"
[01:57] <rainwalker> why?
[01:57] <Pelo> AimLXJ, fyi ,  sda1 = hd0,0 ,  sda2 = hd0,1,  sda5 = hd0,4 , etc
[01:57] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  I ddin't doubt you,  I just didnT' think it was pertinent
[01:57] <Thingus> rainwalker: Because there are packages on the Ubuntu CD.
[01:58] <skywalking> hello , what is the RDP server ?
[01:58] <Pelo> rainwalker,  cause you have your install cd listed as a repos
[01:58] <ThePub> rainwalker: you have the CD listed as a source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:58] <Thingus> rainwalker: It saves bandwidth to have the files on CD rather than downloading again.
[01:58] <dagon^> rainwalker; try this, read the last post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205782
[01:58] <AimLXJ> Pelo: That's strange.
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Intuition....  no one could have known
[01:58] <Pelo> AimLXJ, no that 's just the way grub lists the partitions
[01:58] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  still doesn't solve the problem
[01:59] <sidewalk> crimsun: ill read that
[01:59] <AimLXJ> Pelo: The system recovery is (hd0,0) but when I try to boot (hd0,1) it boots up the system recovery.
[01:59] <rainwalker> Thingus: why do I have to insert the cd when I'm installing via synaptic
[02:00] <Pelo> AimLXJ, ok at this point I guess you are gonna have to do a trial and error fix
[02:00] <Thingus> rainwalker: You have the CD listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <bazhang> rainwalker: just disable it a source in synaptic repos
[02:00] <rainwalker> ThePub: how do I change it so that it's not a source
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: have him post output from fdisk -l   to the pastebin
[02:00] <Thingus> The CD acts as sort of a mini-repository containing packages that aren't installed with the default Ubuntu install.
[02:00] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Okay, how do I do that?
[02:01] <bazhang> rainwalker: open synaptic, go to repositories, uncheck the cd as a source, reload, bingo
[02:01] <rainwalker> ok I got it
[02:01] <Thingus> On another note, I think Ubuntu should have an "Advanced Installation Method." That allows you to tune some extra features right from the installer.
[02:01] <bazhang> yes like a default /home
[02:01] <Thingus> However, one thing at a time.
[02:01] <Pelo> AimLXJ,  when you get to the grub menu and the entry does not work ,  go back to the menu,  select the entry again and hit E for edit,  select the root  line and hit E for edit ,  change it to (hd0,2) and enter to dave , then B to boot,  , if that doesn'T work , go back to the menu and try hd0,3 and so one ,  until you get one that works,   those changes are not permanent and you will need to boot ubuntu and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manualy t
[02:01] <Pelo> o make them permanent
[02:01] <Pelo> AimLXJ, any questions ?
[02:02] <Thingus> I'm trying to get wireless working on a CLI install of Feisty. I'm using a BCM4318 and I have installed ndiswrapper from source. I can see wlan0 as my wireless card, and can see my access point with iwlist. How can I connect to it?
[02:02] <AimLXJ> Pelo: I have tried that up to (hd0,5) and didn't seem to work
[02:02] <Pelo> AimLXJ, join me in #grub please
[02:02] <bazhang> Thingus: open AP?
[02:02] <Thingus> bazhang: WEP
[02:02] <Thingus> Should I open it up?
[02:02] <AimLXJ> Pelo: Okay
[02:03] <bazhang> Thingus: not really necessary--you want to do this via cli or gui
[02:03] <Thingus> CLI, I don't have a DE on the machine in question.
[02:03] <obnockshus> hello
[02:03] <sterling> hey
[02:03] <sterling> I gots another question, I cant get the flashplayer-installer to work...
[02:03] <sidewalk> crimsun: seems like alot to do, just to change a font
[02:03] <bazhang> thingus, just a minute let me get you a link
[02:03] <sterling> whats up with that?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling:  see topic
[02:04] <bascule> sterling: /topic
[02:04] <zarac-> hmm =D
[02:04] <zarac-> i accidently pressed del key in nautilus =D
[02:04] <zarac-> is it thrown to the trash then?
[02:04] <zarac-> i've always shift+deleted and get the popup =D
[02:04] <ThePub> I have http://pastebin.ca/831542 that setup in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't work.  Is there more I should need to do to get it up and running?  If I enter everything in by hand using iwconfig, ifconfig and route things work fine.. but not using interfaces.  Can someone suggest a place to look for further information on how to make it work properly?
[02:05] <Powaqqatsi> Hi everyone.   I'm messing with EasyBCD to set up ubuntu on the Vista bootloader (for dual boot).   Followed a few different instruction sets I've found online but it still won't boot.    Anyone familiar with this?
[02:05] <dagon^> oh, I love snus <3
[02:05] <fsanlu> argh this is getting so annoyin to a point where i wanna stab my computer in multiple places at once. i keep dropping off the internet! nothing ive tried has worked. i cant even update the comptuer cause it keeps dropping off.. sigh *sorry for the rant*
[02:06] <Thingus> fsanlu: do 'lspci | grep Network'
[02:06] <Khisanth> you're sure it's not your ISP? :)
[02:07] <GarulfoUnix> hi everybody
[02:07] <dagon^> snus is like the greatest thing after linux :>
[02:07] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo Thingus this should do it scroll down a bit
[02:08] <sterling> I downloaded the package....
[02:08] <ironfoot> is there a way to restall 7.10
[02:08] <thor> ThePub take down the interface, then bring it back up so it is all configured via interfaces. Then check 'route -n' and make sure that the routes are being defined per interfaces. Also, check iwconfig and ifconfig and make sure all that info is being passed properly as well. If it works when you define it manually, then it is just a matter of figuring out what isn't being auto-defined
[02:08] <ironfoot> reinstall
[02:08] <sterling> I downloaded the package, but cant figure out how to search for it in ADD/REMOVE
[02:08] <dagon^> ironfoot; if you got the CD then no problems
[02:08] <bazhang> ironfoot: you have the live cd?
[02:08] <magicrobotmonkey> anyine else having problems getting a new ipod nano to work ?
[02:08] <ThePub> thor: which is the oddball.  it all LOOKS the same :)
[02:08] <bazhang> magicrobotmonkey: currently does not work with linux
[02:09] <mic21_> I have a NFS mount point and I would like to have a king of common trash. Is it possible ? I also would like that user who write on this directory have automaticly the RW-RW---- permissions but always RW-- --- --- in their home. Is it possible to have a different umask depending of the place where they write their files ?
[02:09] <magicrobotmonkey> no hacks for it?
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> fsanlu: You may try this in your browser..   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529698
[02:09] <bazhang> magicrobotmonkey: as of yet no
[02:09] <thor> ThePub the only other possible data that might not be defined correctly is in /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf...check those as well.
[02:09] <ironfoot> yes I do but for some reason it would not let me do it?
[02:09] <ThePub> thor: those have nothing to do with routing though.
[02:09] <magicrobotmonkey> ok, thanks, bazhang
[02:09] <bazhang> ironfoot: describe in more detail please
[02:10] <bazhang> magicrobotmonkey: no worries
[02:10] <ironfoot> bazhang:I s there some command that I missed?
[02:10] <fsanlu_> Thingus what was that command? sorry i dropped off again
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fsanlu: You may want to try this in your browser..   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529698
[02:10] <thor> ThePub well...yes and no. If resolv.conf is not being defined correctly then there will be no dns lookup...which could appear to be a routing issue
[02:10] <bazhang> ironfoot: you have the livecd in and running, and then hit install?
[02:10] <Wolvenhaven> i removed my windows drive(it had grub on it) and no i cannot load my ubuntu drive, it says "OS failed to load", how do i fix this?
[02:10] <Wolvenhaven> now*
[02:10] <bazhang> !grub
[02:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:10] <bazhang> see above Wolvenhaven
[02:10] <thor> ThePub  and checking /etc/hosts is just something I always do since I am there checking resolv.conf anyway <smile>
[02:11] <ironfoot> Well when I put in the CD IT asked do I want to install and I said yes then It asked for the time zone and it wouldn't go any farther.
[02:11] <sterling> I downloaded the package for Adobe, but cant figure out how to search for it in ADD/REMOVE
[02:11] <ThePub> thor: nah, that's name lookup.  using interfaces I'm unable to ping the gateway.  I'm able to by hand and they appear the same.  I'm not even worried about looking up names atm.
[02:11] <dagon^> ironfoot; maybe you burned the CD too fast?
[02:11] <fsanlu_> hey Thingus what was that lpsci command you wanted me to try?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling: It doesnt work like that
[02:11] <ironfoot> it possible I guess what is a good speed?
[02:11] <bazhang> ironfoot: the cd may have been damaged try burning a new one
[02:11] <thor> ThePub ah ok...didn't catch the reference to pinging the gw
[02:11] <ironfoot> ok
[02:12] <ironfoot> thanx
[02:12] <obnockshus> anyone got a sec? I'm new to linux and am curious about IRC alternatives.
[02:12] <bazhang> ironfoot: also check the md5 sum
[02:12] <bazhang> !forums
[02:12] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[02:12] <bazhang> see above obnockshus
[02:12] <Lunks> !xmas
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <thor> ThePub when it fails, if you 'watch ifconfig' and in a second terminal try the ping, you should see the outgoing packet count increment...if it is sending out the ping
[02:12] <obnockshus> ty baz
[02:12] <Thingus> fsanlu: 'lspci | grep Network'
[02:13] <bazhang> np obnockshus
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> obnockshus: There are several, xchat, xchat-gnome, konversation
[02:13] <Khisanth> irssi for those less graphically inclined :)
[02:13] <xtknight> any linux software that supports ipod nano (gen 3) yet?  { rhythmbox/standard ipod libs on ubuntu dont support it }
[02:14] <bazhang> xtknight: the latest you mean?
[02:14] <xtknight> bazhang, latest nano?  i think.  latest ubuntu?  gutsy here
[02:14] <fsanlu> Thingus: okay i ran that and it just said network controller: broadcam copr bcm94311 wlan mini-PCI
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> xtknight: Careful hacking the ipods, I would hate to see you brick it
[02:14] <bazhang> xtknight: latest nano? not right now
[02:14] <Lunks> How do I burn VCDs from .mpg files?
[02:14] <xtknight> Jack_Sparrow, well last thing i tried i ended up Resetting via iTunes on the authorized windows machine and it was ifne
[02:15] <Thingus> fsanlu: Do you use the wireless or wired network?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> xtknight: Just wanted to give a word of caution on doing that.
[02:15] <bazhang> xtknight: locked out for now
[02:15] <xtknight> bazhang, ahh
[02:15] <fsanlu> Thingus: the wireless.. it gets me connected for awhile.. then bam it disconnects and sometimes it reconnects but sometimes it doesnt
[02:15] <xtknight> Jack_Sparrow, ya i might just hook it up to my VM thru usb
[02:15] <obnockshus> I'm looking for something/someone that can help  with Xchat or point me to a better irc. any tips?
[02:15] <xtknight> maybe this'll work better
[02:16] <fsanlu> Thingus: i dont know if this helps but when i installed ubuntu the card was disabled and i had to enbale the restricted firmware to get it to run
[02:16] <thor> Lunks found a number of links to howtos and such...google 'create vcd from avi in linux'
[02:16] <RequinB4> !pidgin | obnockshus
[02:16] <ubotu> obnockshus: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:16] <magicrobotmonkey> is there a quick way to share an internet connection?
[02:16] <xtknight> bazhang, have they had good luck hacking previous ones?  reasonable to expect linux hack in a few months or is there some completely new scheme?
[02:17] <sterling> Jack_sparrow, see PM please
[02:17] <obnockshus> will pidgin run on feisty?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> obnockshus: You are looking for irc clients right.
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling: sure.. briefly
[02:17] <mic21_> is it possible to have different umask depending the place where we write on the file system ?
[02:17] <Lunks> thor: it's from an mpg (even less work), but I'd like to know if there's any tool which can do it nicely, like k3b
[02:17] <obnockshus> yes, sparrow
[02:17] <Lunks> looks like a package is missing
[02:17] <Khisanth> fsanlu: what sort of signal strength are you getting?
[02:17] <tony_math> Lunks: you can try Tovid
[02:17] <phantomlord> irc://
[02:17] <RequinB4> obnockshus - gaim may be pre-installed on feisty, pidgin is the new name.  Yes, it should be fine
[02:17] <fsanlu> ~60%
[02:17] <thor> Lunks http://muhdzamri.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-make-vcd-with-k3b-using-linux.html
[02:18] <Khisanth> Lunks: you can use vcdimager to create an iso and k3b would definitely be able to burn that :)
[02:18] <zaxius> how do you hibernate?
[02:18] <bazhang> xtknight: the vm fix is best for now--surely there will be a workaround eventually--btw I use my mini with no problems at all--the new nano has special features to lock non-itunes (read linux) out of it
[02:18] <sterling> Jack_Sparrow see pm please.
[02:18] <obnockshus> gaim seems to be an IM. I'm looking for IRC
[02:18] <phantomlord> irc://66.252.27.217/crimelifeonline
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> RequinB4: What does IM have to do with his question on IRC CLients
[02:18] <thor> Lunks I think ffmpeg will also do mpeg input files
[02:18] <Khisanth> obnockshus: it does that and other things
[02:18] <xtknight> bazhang, ahh cool
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling: I dont see it
[02:18] <Thingus> xtknight: Are you have iPod issues?
[02:18] <fsanlu> khisanth: what the weird thing is... the other laptops and dekstops dont get cut off (they are in windows) and i have another laptop almost identical to this one in vista that doesnt get dc'ed so im surei ts not the router/isp its me
[02:18] <RequinB4> Jack_Sparrow obnockshus you can IRC with it
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling: Ask in channel
[02:18] <xtknight> Thingus, with linux?  yeah.  linux doesnt support the ipod nano 3rd gen yet
[02:18] <Lunks> Khisanth: that should be vcd imager. :) thank you
[02:19] <Lunks> thor: thank you, too!
[02:19] <obnockshus> really? Does it act like an actual IRC?
[02:19] <Khisanth> fsanlu: I doubt you have all those stacked on top of each other and even then ... :)
[02:19] <Lunks> And merry xmas everyone!
[02:19] <zaxius> can you hibernate in ubuntu?
[02:19] <sterling> I was wondering how I open the package that I downloaded
[02:19] <xtknight> i was thinking maybe some experimental libipod would support it or something
[02:19] <jatt> I have two .iso files: test1.iso and test2.iso. How do I burn this isos in _one_ dvd?
[02:19] <xtknight> but i dont want to destroy it :\
[02:19] <RequinB4> zaxius - Hit the green guy running
[02:19] <Thingus> I thought that there was a patch for libgpod, or something like that...
[02:19] <sterling> since you said I could not open it.
[02:19] <xtknight> Thingus, ya i saw it too
[02:19] <xtknight> im afraid of breaking it though
[02:19] <zaxius> RequinB4, is that a joke?
[02:19] <fsanlu> khisanth: haha but yah.. its just me that always gets dropped off every ~10 minutes or so.. im not sure what it is
[02:19] <chrometiger> my desktop applets are broke, wont load, and when i logon to gnome my background and desktop icons are gone i have to alt+f2 and run nautilus to get it back   how can i fix this ?
[02:19] <RequinB4> zaxius - no
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> RequinB4: Thanks, I have used pidgin, but never seen it used for irc.. I will check it out.. thanks
[02:19] <zaxius> RequinB4, i don't know what you mean then
[02:20] <obnockshus> applications says "gaim internet messenger"
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling: Are you trying to manually install flash?
[02:20] <RequinB4> zaxius - what version do you have
[02:20] <zaxius> RequinB4, feisty
[02:20] <sterling> I downloaded the package... so yah
[02:20] <RequinB4> zaxius - go to the button on the far right that looks like a door iirc (on gutsy its a green guy)
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sterling:   /j #Voyager    I will give you the easy way.. you are using Firefox right.. not opera or another?
[02:21] <bazhang> devede for creating vcds from mpeg Lunks
[02:21] <xtknight> bazhang, i actually did have luck downloading my songs and playing them on the pc though
[02:21] <RequinB4> zaxius - it should give you unboot options ie hibernate, suspend, shut down, restart
[02:21] <bazhang> xtknight: from the nano?
[02:21] <xtknight> bazhang, correct , thru rhythmbox
[02:21] <zaxius> i'm not running gnome
[02:21] <fsanlu> is it possible im dropping off cause im using WPA? juts a thought.
[02:21] <zaxius> i'm running...xgl?
[02:21] <xtknight> it's uploading that probably doesnt work.  and somehow my ipod got wiped after my experiments
[02:22] <zaxius> what's it called
[02:22] <xtknight> i think i syncd it blank
[02:22] <Phophos> Okay, so ALSA can play sound through my speakers, but for some reason no programmes that want to use ALSA can.
[02:22] <RequinB4> zaxius - -.- have you tried pressing the power button
[02:22] <sterling>  /j #Voyager
[02:22] <bazhang> xtknight: then that would be earlier than the newest nano--just dont update the firmware and you should be okay--I use mine with amarok no problem
[02:22] <judgement> networking problems, i need help
[02:22] <zaxius> RequinB4, no but how would i know if it's hibernating or suspended?
[02:22] <Joelito> Hi everyone :)
[02:22] <xtknight> Phophos, how do you figure this?
[02:22] <xtknight> bazhang, ahh so it's the FW that matters
[02:22] <Joelito> this is my first test drive on Linux
[02:22] <xtknight> no idea what this one is
[02:23] <RequinB4> Hello Joelito, welcome to ubuntu
[02:23] <aro> Joelito: welcome
[02:23] <dagon^> welcome Joelito
[02:23] <RequinB4> zaxius - i'm sorry, i'm confused as to what your question is and where you are, my bad O.o
[02:23] <Joelito> thanks thanks :)
[02:23] <judgement> i have a comcast connection w/one network link... i bought a router and want to know how to connect it
[02:23] <bazhang> xtknight: if it is blank, then it's not really, but that is the new hash sum reporting it is to prevent us non itunes-ers from doing I dont know what
[02:23] <Joelito> I have a fews questions about it, anyone have a little spare time?
[02:23] <krimezz> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on a raid 1 system and I'm having a problem. On the prepare disk space I click manual then I see 4 options /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdc1 <-this one is not my raid drive and I'm not sure what the other three are.
[02:23] <zaxius> RequinB4, i'm on a laptop, hibernate = save state to memory and completely power off, suspend/standby = low power state.
[02:23] <zaxius> RequinB4, but i'll give that a shot
[02:24] <dagon^> Joelito; shoot :)
[02:24] <obnockshus> judgement is it a wireless router?
[02:24] <Phophos> xtknight: It will play sounds through aplay, but if I try any GUIs like Totem or amaroK it will play, but no sound will come out
[02:24] <xtknight> bazhang, well actually it was blank when i turned on the ipod (ipod itself saw nothing).  either that or the hash was broken/invlaidated.  something happened though that preventing me from syncing
[02:24] <AimLXJ> Hey I was curious, I can boot Ubuntu with Windows Vista bootloader correct?
[02:24] <Phophos> xtknight: Oh, and thanks for helping out (Y)
[02:24] <kust3r> anyone got the Shadowfire server info?
[02:24] <ThePub> Solved it.  Removed the tabs from the file.]
[02:24] <xtknight> Phophos, both of those use gstreamer, not necessarily alsa.  checked gstreamer options?
[02:24] <bazhang> xtknight: yeah, google new nano linux and you will see what is up with that
[02:24] <amerio> hey... need 2 ask , is unmount Hard disk do the same as safe remove?
[02:24] <RequinB4> zaxius - Yes, i am on a laptop as well.  You can acess the GUI hybernate by going to your shut down menu.  For me, i press the button that looks like a log out or a guy running or something.  Or, i can press the power button.
[02:25] <judgement> obnockshus: no.. it is just a regular router w/4 connectors + printer connections
[02:25] <Phophos> xtknight: Yep, how?
[02:25] <xtknight> amerio, yes exactly
[02:25] <xtknight> amerio, unmount syncs to disk
[02:25] <zaxius> k thanks man, i'll give it a shot.
[02:25] <boo> hey, i have a hidden partition, its fat 32, how do i mount it?
[02:25] <xtknight> amerio, unmount is "eject" in nautilus
[02:25] <NKen> judgement, ask comcast
[02:25] <ThePub> I dont' remember who I was going back and forth with.  Whomever you were, the interfaces man isn't right apparently :(
[02:25] <NKen> judgement, you are paying them
[02:25] <soldats> unmount is eject in BASH
[02:25] <amerio> xtknight: but in windows remove safe , my hdd turns off , but when I make unmount here it doesnt turn off
[02:26] <obnockshus> judgement, it didn't connect after loading linux?
[02:26] <bazhang> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/14/new-ipods-reengineer.html xtknight
[02:26] <xtknight> Phophos, gksu gstreamer-properties
[02:26] <RequinB4> boo - to mount a hard drive just go to nautlius and right click mount
[02:26] <xtknight> bazhang, thx
[02:26] <bazhang> no worries :}
[02:26] <obnockshus> I use comcast and am having zero issues
[02:26] <xtknight> amerio, hmm that's a little odd.  not sure exactly what is going on there
[02:27] <Evolution2> boo: mount -a
[02:27] <boo> thanks
[02:27] <xtknight> amerio, maybe safe remove in windows is actually removing it from usb node
[02:27] <xtknight> didnt tihnk it did that
[02:27] <judgement> obnockshus: i have to connect the comcast router to this new router b/c there is no cable connectors on this router
[02:27] <xtknight> it makes sense though
[02:27] <amerio> xtknight: but there is no turn off button on my HDD , suppose 2 turn off auto.
[02:27] <Rufus_> whats a good music program?
[02:27] <Phophos> xtknight: Right, that ... worked, I think.
[02:27] <xtknight> amerio, well usb is a source of power
[02:27] <Phophos> Rufus_: amaroK
[02:27] <krimezz> does raid work with ubuntu?
[02:28] <xtknight> amerio, im not sure how to tell linux to remove power
[02:28] <xtknight> i guess unmounting is not th same
[02:28] <Rufus_> is kaffiene good?
[02:28] <judgement> there is only one connector on the comcast router. i don't know why that is tho
[02:28] <dagon^> Rufus_; xmms
[02:28] <bazhang> Rufus_: yes
[02:28] <amerio> xtknight : unmount is 100% safe?
[02:28] <obnockshus> that's a comcast wall you're dealing with. you will need their direction
[02:28] <NKen> krimezz, yes with problems though
[02:28] <xtknight> amerio, data-wise?  yes.  it synchronizes buffer to disk
[02:28] <xtknight> Phophos, test "Default Output" here
[02:29] <amerio> xtknight: well thanx =) if my hdd got burnt u'll get me a new one :)
[02:29] <xtknight> amerio, hehe certainly
[02:29] <NKen> judgement, ask comcast, after all, you are paying them
[02:29] <amerio> xtknight: thanx , merry christmas
[02:29] <xtknight> same ^
[02:29] <amerio> good night all and merry christmas
[02:29] <krimezz> so would I be better off installing to a non raid drive or try a different distro?
[02:29] <obnockshus> Judgement, NKen is right. Let comcast deal with it.
[02:29] <Phophos> xtknight: It crashed. I clicked the input thing and it didn't like it.
[02:29] <judgement> NKen: okay, anyways ubuntu rocks!
[02:30] <chrometiger> my desktop applets are broke, wont load, and when i logon to gnome my background and desktop icons are gone i have to alt+f2 and run nautilus to get it back   how can i fix this ?
[02:30] <xtknight> Phophos, it crashed upon testing Output, or upon testing Input ?
[02:30] <judgement> lemme see if comcast have a chatline
[02:30] <obnockshus> lol judgement. Yes it does
[02:30] <J_Laptop> they do - it's web-based
[02:30] <NKen> krimezz, i would take one of those options
[02:30] <Phophos> xtknight: On Input. I think I expected that, that's probably an unrelated problem at the minute. What's it's friendly process name?
[02:30]  * obnockshus is never going back to windows
[02:30] <krimezz> do you know a good distro that plays well with raid?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[02:30] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[02:30] <krimezz> thanks btw
[02:31] <NKen> krimezz, ubuntu will work but you have to read the forums. try searching for your specific problem.
[02:31] <bazhang> krimezz: fakeraid?
[02:31] <xtknight> Phophos, sudo killall gstreamer-properties
[02:31] <boo> I have a hidden partition, how can I unhide it
[02:31] <xtknight> boo, gksu gparted
[02:31] <krimezz> bazhang: fakeraid?
[02:31] <bazhang> krimezz: software raid
[02:31] <xtknight> hmm
[02:32] <xtknight> i thought fakeraid was the pseudo-HW controllers?
[02:32] <Phophos> xtknight: Default Output is now making a stuttering beeping noise
[02:32] <krimezz> its 2 raptor hd's and the raid is on the motherboard
[02:32] <boo> xtknight, i can't do it from there
[02:32] <obnockshus> ok... how difficult is it to run mirc in linux through wine?
[02:32] <bazhang> krimezz: ahh hardware then --real raid :}
[02:32] <Phophos> obnockshus: Do you really need to, or can you use XChat?
[02:32] <Rufus_> when i try to install amarok, it asks for a cd?
[02:33] <xtknight> boo, manage flags on the partition
[02:33] <craigbass1976> how do I play wmv in ubuntu?  I've tried apt-getting a couple apps I read about, but they're not in the repos.  There's got to be one... or a codec for something I already have?
[02:33] <xtknight> boo, uncheck Hidden
[02:33] <Rufus_> why?
[02:33] <chickendinnerwin> is there a tutorial on how to boot an iso image located on my hd?
[02:33] <Phophos> Rufus_: Did you install from the Gutsy CD?
[02:33] <Riddick> I have a question that I have read about on some ubuntu blogs.  when i log into my ubuntu box my delete/backspace key does not delete backwards when i launch Irssi.  it works normally until then.  does anyone know of a fix for this?  it is really annoying.
[02:33] <NKen> obnockshus, why run mirc? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90073
[02:33] <xtknight> boo, right click->manage flags
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> krimezz: Many onboard raid are fakeraid....
[02:33] <Rufus_> phophos, no, i got from add/remove programs
[02:33] <bazhang> Rufus_: open synaptic and disable cd as software source
[02:33] <dagon^> craigbass1976; VLC
[02:33] <xtknight> Phophos, it didnt do this before?  what changeD
[02:33] <obnockshus> I'm using Xchat now. Can't figure out how to make it run like my mirc ran. Alias, remotes etc...
[02:33] <Phophos> Rufus_: Sorry, didn't clarify. Did you install Ubuntu from CD?
[02:34] <Rufus_> yes
[02:34] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, look in /etc/fstab and make a line that looks like one of the booting ones there.  /dev/xxx will be different, and the filesystem type will be iso9660 or some such, I think
[02:34] <Rufus_> test-installation
[02:34] <krimezz> jack_sparrow: how do I find out what I am
[02:34] <xtknight> craigbass1976, vlc (VideoLan CLIENT) or mplayer
[02:34] <NKen> obnockshus, read manuals
[02:34] <boo> xtknight, its not hidden in gparted, but it is elsewhere
[02:34] <NKen> obnockshus, its easy
[02:34] <boo> and what does lba mean?
[02:34] <Phophos> xtknight: It wasn't making any noise before, this is a good sign. I don't think anything changed but I changed the stuff in the drop down menu from Auto to Default to Auto again
[02:34] <xtknight> craigbass1976, i think for WMA3 audio you may need w32codecs
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> krimezz: read that link and identify for hardware
[02:34] <obnockshus> where are the manuals?
[02:34] <xtknight> boo, large block addressing
[02:34] <xtknight> boo, not really sure other than that ;)
[02:34] <x-X-x> can i theme the bars at the top and bottom of my desktop?
[02:35] <obnockshus> ub=nder "help"?
[02:35] <Rufus_> so, what do i do?
[02:35] <xtknight> boo, you can right click the partition in GPARTED, click Manage Flags, and uncheck hidden , right?
[02:35] <craigbass1976> Criminy... I wish my wife's friends would wise up and send open format video attachments...
[02:35] <chickendinnerwin> craigbass1976, im a beginner so i dont think ill be able to figure it out like that
[02:35] <Phophos> xtknight: Sorry, not Defalt but ALSA
[02:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=447913 x-X-x
[02:35] <NKen> http://forum.xchat.org/
[02:35] <xtknight> Phophos, so it works now?
[02:35] <chickendinnerwin> i was curious if there was a tutorial or a discussion on the internet i could read along with
[02:35] <obnockshus> *under
[02:35] <zaxius> RequinB4, didn't work, maybe cuz i'm running wubi.
[02:35] <nickrud> x-X-x, sorta, right click and select properties
[02:35] <Phophos> Rufus_: System > Administration > Software Sources
[02:35] <zaxius> RequinB4, it just hung with a flashing cursor in the corner of the screen.
[02:35] <NKen> obnockshus, http://forum.xchat.org/
[02:35] <xtknight> Phophos, probably a bug, i dont know.
[02:35] <Rufus_> yes?
[02:35] <NKen> search
[02:35] <obnockshus> lol. I keep thinking .com
[02:35] <boo> ok i have an odd recovery type partition, how can i tell if its bootable?
[02:35] <Phophos> Rufus_: Uncheck CDROM
[02:36] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, Stop it.  go to rafb.net/paste and paste the contents of /etc/fstab there  I'll see if I can give you a hand.  I've never booted off an iso located off the hard drive though, but it should be the same as booting off a cd
[02:36] <Rufus_> okay
[02:36] <Phophos> xtknight: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's working now, Kopete is making irritating noises
[02:36] <xtknight> boo,  dump the boot sector ?
[02:36] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, your days of "I can't do it" are OVER dude.  In Linux, you CAN!!!
[02:36] <xtknight> boo, sudo dd if=/dev/hdx | strings | less
[02:36] <Phophos> xtknight: And now amaroK is playing, erm, definitely not Korn, so all is good
[02:37] <xtknight> boo, then if you see boot code/error msg strings in the first few lines probably
[02:37] <xtknight> boo, make sure it's "dd if" not "dd of"...
[02:37] <xtknight> "of" is output, that can overwrite stuff
[02:37] <chickendinnerwin> craigbass1976, i dont have ubuntu up and running yet.  im still on xp and i dont have any blank discs lying around right now
[02:37] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, it is Christmas eve though, so I'll be switching between breaks from wrapping and helping you :)
[02:37] <chickendinnerwin> so i dont have an fstab
[02:38] <boo> haha, i have no idea what that means.  im having problems booting windows, i think a hidden partition was initially flagged as boot, but grub changed it.  im trying to tell by the files within the drive if its bootable
[02:38] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, Ahh, then you might be out of luck.  I have no idea how to tell windows to boot of something other than windows.  I don't think windows allows it really; probably why GRUB needs to be installed.
[02:38] <Khisanth> you can check the partition table for that
[02:38] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, you think you're getting some cds for XMAS?
[02:38] <Phophos> Right. Now for a completely unrelated problem. Why doesn't my microphone work?
[02:38] <xtknight> Phophos, this can be more tough to get working
[02:39] <craigbass1976> Phophos, and now for something completely different... is that Monty Python?
[02:39] <xtknight> Phophos, might need to mess with Switches in the GNOME mixer applet.  but they are labeled differently for every sound card!!
[02:39] <sidewalk> wheei, works fine now
[02:39] <chickendinnerwin> craigbass1976, ive done it before with another distro (sidux)  you just need a working grub (ie any live cd with grub on it)
[02:39] <Phophos> xtknight: Tell me about it. I think I broke my sound when I tried to fix my mic. Yes, that's Monty Python already.
[02:39] <chickendinnerwin> but certain things i imagine require a different setting or two
[02:40] <boo> xtknight, how do i tell if its boot code?
[02:40] <craigbass1976> chickendinnerwin, Ahh, not sure.  I didn't mess around too much.  Played with a couple live cds, then switched over when Fedora1 came out
[02:40] <xtknight> boo, do you know the block device?
[02:40] <xtknight> boo, /dev/sda1 or etc..
[02:40] <boo> yeah, its /dev/sda6
[02:41] <boo> oddly, i don't have a /dev/sda4 though
[02:41] <xtknight> boo, probably extended partition
[02:41] <Phophos> xtknight: I'll try playing with the switches, but when I tried Default Input on gstreamer-properties it crashed horribly
[02:41] <boo> no, extended is 3
[02:41] <boo> but within that is 5 and 6
[02:41] <xtknight> hmm
[02:41] <boo> this is in gparted
[02:41] <xtknight> boo, "sudo dd if=/dev/sda6 | strings | less"
[02:41] <boo> but when i do fdisk -l, i see 4 and 6 as the same
[02:42] <xtknight> boo, this should allow you to see some text.  if you see error message strings then it probably has a boot sector
[02:42] <RequinB4> !wordpress
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wordpress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <xtknight> boo, like "BOOTMGR is missing" or anything with "boot" in it.  it just dumps the contents of the whole boot program
[02:42] <boo> xtknight,  nothing comes up
[02:42] <xtknight> boo, hmm
[02:42] <chickendinnerwin> craigbass1976, ill play around.  in sidux i need to have two files in the same directory as the iso.  vmlinuz and initrd.  any idea if i need those too?
[02:43] <xtknight> boo, "sudo dd if=/dev/sda6 count=512 bs=1 | strings"
[02:43] <boo> xtknight, my mbr/partition table has taken some serious beating
[02:43] <tofaffy> When I plug my SD memory card into my pc, If I try and delete pics, I'll unplug the card and put it back on and they are still there. I don't know if they are actually deleted and ubuntu is still showing them or what...any ideas?
[02:44] <boo> ok
[02:44] <boo> i see "boot disk failure" as the last line
[02:44] <judgement> good thing comcast did help... no bots like microsoft chat help! lol!
[02:44] <xtknight> boo, pretty sure it prolly has a boot sector on it
[02:44] <xtknight> u just chainloader it from grub i think
[02:44] <boo> ok
[02:44] <boo> wait
[02:44] <xtknight> sda6 is (hd0,5) in grub
[02:45] <boo> do i flag that partition as boot in gparted, or do i set it to boot in grub
[02:45] <xtknight> i dont think boot even matters actually
[02:45] <xtknight> i dont know though
[02:45] <boo> i tried hd0,5 in grub and nothing happened
[02:45] <xtknight> boo, chainload and all?
[02:45] <boo> yeah
[02:45] <xtknight> hmm
[02:45] <boo> at least i think i did, i could try again
[02:46] <boo> this is a uni laptop, so there was preloaded stuff (like this partition
[02:46] <xtknight> boo, i'd just google recovery partition and grub
[02:46] <xtknight> might need special cmds
[02:46] <Phophos> xtknight: Thanks for your help with gstreamer, is there anything else you could suggest for my microphone?
[02:46] <xtknight> boo, at least this is for thinkpads maybe http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-46088.html
[02:47] <xtknight> boo, has some helpful grub info
[02:47] <xtknight> boo, maybe grub recognizes sda6 not as hd0,5 but something else?  i dont know why it would though
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> boo: Also look at booting your Windows cd / recovery mode and fixmbr to get back into windows, then you can always fix grub to see ubuntu
[02:47] <skso1> hey guys, how do i map my media keys on my laptop to do custom commands?
[02:47] <boo> fixmbr and fixboot doesnt do anything
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> boo: Also look at uuid in your grub
[02:48] <boo> ive tried
[02:48] <RequinB4> This has nothing to do with relating to everything, but i hate services that assume you have windows and don't tell you until you get the .exe file! [/rant]
[02:48] <boo> whats uuid
[02:48] <xtknight> skso1, system preferences keybaord shortcuts allows u to do some.  otherwise, gconf-editor can do custom commands
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[02:48] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:48] <xtknight> skso1, you'll have to find the gconf key if you want to do custom ones
[02:48] <skso1> i have the keys
[02:48] <xtknight> Phophos, hmm
[02:48] <Jon__> Whats the pro screenshot program
[02:48] <xtknight> Phophos, well open the gnome mixer applet
[02:48] <Jon__> terminal based
[02:48] <boo> oh wow this might work
[02:48] <skso1> so is it a built in package? the gconf-editor?
[02:49] <xtknight> skso1, yea
[02:49] <boo> hiding hd0,0 and unhiding hd0,5
[02:49] <xtknight> skso1, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[02:49] <Phophos> xtknight: I killed that when I was fixing ALSA, how do I invoke it?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[02:49] <bazhang> gnight Jack_Sparrow
[02:49] <skso1> heh, thanks
[02:49] <xtknight> Phophos, gnome-volume-control
[02:50] <RequinB4> Jack_Sparrow - good night, and merry christmas
[02:50] <fsanlu> i installed automatix.. and i tried installing the flash-plugin and it didnt work.. how do i uninstall automatix?
[02:50]  * xtknight got coal for xmas
[02:50] <Pelo> xtknight, how lucky you can barbecue now
[02:50] <fsanlu> because it doesnt show upi n the add/remove place
[02:50] <Phophos> xtknight: Okay, got it
[02:50] <xtknight> mmm :)
[02:50] <bazhang> fsanlu: then you are in deep trouble--automatix breaks things and is not supported here
[02:50] <phlux> Anyone using fluxbox on ubuntu?
[02:51] <fsanlu> bazhang: i wanna delete it! how do i uninstall it?
[02:51] <bazhang> phlux: used it
[02:51]  * Pelo is in an out making pork stew atm 
[02:51]  * RequinB4 steals some of Pelo's stew
[02:51] <phlux> bazhang: So it IS possible to install other WMs on Ubuntu?
[02:51] <bazhang> fsanlu: ask in their channel
[02:51] <xtknight> Phophos, all i can suggest is Edit->Preferences, enable all the options, then mess with them
[02:51] <Pelo> phlux, I know several ppl do , but that's all
[02:51] <Khisanth> phlux: not currently but I was up until a week ago :)
[02:51] <bazhang> phlux: oh yes :}
[02:51] <phlux> pft
[02:51]  * Pelo thinks RequinB4 is gonna have indigestions from the half cooked stew
[02:51] <xtknight> Phophos, in edit preferences you just enable their visibility.  then click OK and mess with the options that later appear in the applet thru the tabs
[02:52] <phlux> My brother was telling me that if you used ubuntu you HAD to use Gnome
[02:52] <xtknight> phlux, false
[02:52] <bazhang> Pelo: haha
[02:52] <phlux> I'm swapping from FreeBSD to Linux on my new laptop...so I'm a new Linux user here...technically.
[02:52] <xtknight> you can even use KDE on ubuntu without having Kubuntu
[02:52] <Phophos> xtknight: Thanks. They were all enabled already because I always have trouble on a new installation with this soundcard.
[02:52] <bazhang> phlux: ever heard of gOS?
[02:52] <Pelo> phlux, ubuntu comes with gnome,  kubuntu comes with kde,  xubuntu with xfce , and blubuntu with bluebox
[02:52] <phlux> I've got Vista on here as a primary partition. Will that be a problem?
[02:52] <RequinB4> Pelo - It's ok, i've had worse
[02:52] <phlux> bazhang: Nope..what's that?
[02:52] <xtknight> phlux, no problem
[02:52] <xtknight> phlux, i had vista also
[02:53] <bazhang> phlux: enlightenment on top of ubuntu
[02:53] <aro> phlux: works for me
[02:53] <Pelo> xtknight, sorry to hear about that, is there anything the doctors can do ?
[02:53] <phlux> e17 would be nice
[02:53] <Pelo> phlux, sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[02:53] <bazhang> !bug#1
[02:53] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:54] <xtknight> Pelo, hmm ?
[02:54] <xtknight> oh
[02:54] <xtknight> :)
[02:54] <RequinB4> Pelo, sudo apt-get install life
[02:54] <Joelito> what p2p do you recommend to use?
[02:54] <xtknight> yes, i wiped it shortly thereafter
[02:54] <xtknight> now i have a broken vista bootloader and xp
[02:54] <Pelo> RequinB4, errors no package found
[02:54] <rainwalker> dagon^: you still here?
[02:54] <dagon^> yup
[02:55] <RequinB4> Pelo - try connecting your computer to the internet
[02:55] <rainwalker> dagon^: made some progress
[02:55] <dagon^> rainwalker; nice :)
[02:55] <rainwalker> dagon^: I know my webcam works because other apps have been able to use it
[02:55] <fsanlu> whew i deleted it.. thank God
[02:56] <rainwalker> dagon^: and there's something with amsn about being firewalled
[02:56] <dagon^> rainwalker; aha
[02:56] <RequinB4> :D
[02:56] <bazhang> fsanlu: the damage will still be there though
[02:56] <rainwalker> dagon^: don't know what to do about it though
[02:56] <xtknight> Phophos, any luck?
[02:56] <fsanlu> bazhang: i dont think i damged anything... it doesnt seem like anything is wrong for now so its not that bad
[02:56] <wayniwoo> ML r u here???
[02:57] <bazhang> fsanlu: back up all your stuff
[02:57] <gumpo> I could use some help... After i installed the restricted nvidia (new) drivers, my sound stopped working. (Audigy 4, worked fine until i restarted after enabling the nvidia driver)
[02:57] <Mistylady> I'm jere
[02:57] <Phophos> xtknight: Not yet. I've been given a walkthough by #alsa
[02:57] <bazhang> !u | wayniwoo
[02:57] <ubotu> wayniwoo: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[02:57] <xtknight> sudo apt-get install life gives me dependency errors.  it says i need Kaffeine :)
[02:57] <dagon^> rainwalker; check your preferences on amsn
[02:57] <dagon^> rainwalker; connections tab
[02:57] <rainwalker> dagon^: I am, but I have no idea what this port stuff is all about
[02:57] <Mistylady> wayni are u there?
[02:58] <fsanlu> bazhang: this is just a fresh intsall of ubuntu... im just setting things up.. so i odnt have any data here
[02:58] <dagon^> rainwalker; mine is set to standard
[02:58] <terraNova> hi there, can someone help me out with a wine issue?
[02:58] <rainwalker> dagon^: what is standard?
[02:58] <bazhang> fsanlu: tread very carefully; it likely has compromised your system
[02:58] <dagon^> rainwalker; no idea but it works for me =/
[02:58] <terraNova> I'm trying to install office 2003, and it gives me an error, saying that office isn't installed for the current user.
[02:59] <Mistylady> Hey wayni
[02:59] <Pelo> terraNova, depends on the issue  the channel for wine is #winehq,  if your issues has nothing to do with ubuntu, but try asking here anyway
[02:59] <bazhang> Mistylady: please cut it out
[02:59] <rainwalker> dagon^: what port?
[02:59] <wayniwoo> Misty, lets go back...
[02:59] <terraNova> I did consult the wine site and it said that it is a normal error, and to downgrade wine to 0.9.37 then upgrade, and it'll work
[02:59] <Mistylady> ok
[02:59] <bazhang> fsanlu: may as well do a fresh install without automatix--not needed at all anymore
[02:59] <terraNova> but I can't downgrade it to below 0.9.42
[02:59] <terraNova> and that doesn't fix it
[03:00] <dagon^> rainwalker; standard is 1863
[03:00] <krimezz> is it a good idea to create seperate partitions for /boot /root and /swap .. also thanks jack_sparrow.. I'm getting closer
[03:00] <Pelo> terraNova, I would ask in #winehq
[03:00] <terraNova> okay
[03:00] <terraNova> thanks
[03:00] <bazhang> krimezz: dont forget /home :}
[03:00] <krimezz> (logical partitions)
[03:01] <krimezz> bazhang:I have a 10gb partition any suggestions on how to devide them?
[03:01] <ugarit> I have 7.04 installed and I have the 7.10 cd is there a way to upgrade via the cd?
[03:01] <Pelo> ugarit, if you ahve the dvd or the alternate intall cd,   yes
[03:01] <Pelo> !upgrade > ugarit check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:02] <borndeer> Hey , I installed Java 6 through the Synaptic Package Manager , but when I started to use java , an error occurred like this : <java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory>. Any idea ?
[03:02] <bazhang> krimezz: the advantage to /home is you can then install again and data is not lost
[03:02] <boo> xtknight, I managed to boot into the recovery partition
[03:02] <boo> is it possible that I would need chainloader +2?
[03:02] <jing_> i have a problem
[03:02] <bazhang> ask away jing_
[03:03] <Pelo> jing_,  we need a question
[03:03] <jing_> after I type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0"
[03:03] <boo> hey Pelo I booted into the recovery partition.
[03:03] <RequinB4> I have a semi-ubuntu related question(bash me if i'm too off topic).  I'm thinking of a web site that will work like google docs to share/edit text files, then be able to compile them in various languages.  Would this be something I could do on a third party hosting system or would i need my own apache server?
[03:03] <Pelo> boo, if that is the case that might be the answer aimxl needed
[03:03] <jing_> and then I type xhost +
[03:04] <jing_> "xterm" can not display in my computer "192.168.0.101"
[03:04] <jing_> is there anybody know why?
[03:04] <Pelo> jing_, I think the syntax is  export DISPLAY=:192.168.0.101
[03:04] <bascule> RequinB4: well some hosting will allow root access to a machine so go for your life, others won't, depends on the hosting service you can hire really
[03:04] <krimezz> bazhang: so what kind of space should /home /boot /root and /swap have allocated for them?
[03:05] <Pelo> !enter | jing_
[03:05] <ubotu> jing_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:05] <jing_> to Pelo, thanks , i am trying....
[03:05] <toni_> et
[03:05] <ugarit> where is the alternate cd?
[03:05] <RequinB4> bascule - so i definitly need root access?
[03:05] <toni_> ce_imoet
[03:05] <RequinB4> I'm in the conceptural phase
[03:06] <Pelo> ugarit, you can get it on the ubuntu site,  jsut select as you would for your regular cd and check the alternate cd box just bellow the download now button
[03:06] <boo> Pelo, do you know if chainloader +2 might help?
[03:06] <Pelo> boo, no idea
[03:06] <Khisanth> RequinB4: only if you need complete control over everything
[03:06] <bascule> RequinB4: it al depends, but I have never developed a web app, so not the best placed to advise, many things can be done wothout root
[03:06] <Pelo> boo, try it, it can'T hurt any
[03:06] <bazhang> krimezz: the swap question is a hotly contested one; some say twice ram, others disagree--most for /home and enough for the install plus whatever packages you want to install for / and /boot can be very small iirc
[03:06] <jing_> to Pelo, I use the command "export DISPLAY=:192.168.0.101", and I still have a wrong result "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :192.168.0.101"
[03:07] <RequinB4> Khisanth bascule - well, hopefully i wouldn't have to write the back-end stuff myself, just organize it all into a page and get rid of the human element that is currently needed
[03:07] <Khisanth> at some point 2x RAM stops making sense
[03:07] <Pelo> jing_, where is this suppose to display to ? and why are you using an ip ?
[03:07] <bascule> Khisanth: agreed, above 2gb swap is pointless, unless you are doing huge images
[03:07] <bazhang> Khisanth: so 6GB for swap is overkill?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> 6gb swap is way overkill. :)
[03:08] <bascule> bazhang: ludicrous
[03:08] <Khisanth> 6GB is overkill no matter how much RAM you have
[03:08] <kyu_flux> bazhang: we had this discussion earlier - I have 8 GB and I was told it was too much =)
[03:08] <Dr_willis> of course dosetn the suspend feature - use the swap partition?
[03:08] <bazhang> bascule: I thought so--but too late now haha
[03:08] <Phophos> bazhang: 6GB is a lot of swap, alright!
[03:08] <cua0> is there an x app to monitor hardware? temps and such..
[03:08] <bazhang> kyu_flux: ah so :}
[03:09] <bazhang> Phophos: hotly contested desu-ka? :}
[03:09] <boo> hey, could a partition being primary/boot/logical affect its ability to be booted?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> boo,  ive seenit affect windows.. but not linux.
[03:09] <bascule> Dr_willis: a good point, maybe have 1.25*ram on one swap and a sensible amount for usual swap on another
[03:09] <Pelo> boo,  that is what I was starting to think earlier but it's realy over my head
[03:09] <bazhang> cua0: sensors
[03:09] <boo> Dr_willis, my problem is with windows,  can you tell me anything about it?
[03:09] <bascule> boo: not by grub
[03:09] <Khisanth> if it gets to the point where you are using more than 1GB of swapp and probably before that, in most cases your system won't be very usable anyway
[03:10] <Dr_willis> I have never understood how a system can suspend and  use  swap to suspend to.. what if swap was being used.. where did it suspend to...
[03:10] <bascule> Khisanth: I saw a solaris machine with >1000 days uptime, 512MB and 3GB swapped out
[03:10] <krimezz> I have 2gb ram so 2gb swap should be more than enough?
[03:10] <boo> alright, originally, my computer booted straight to windows, but there was a 2 sec thing that said (to boot recovery partition, press f11), then when i installed ubuntu, i couldn't boot windows
[03:10] <bazhang> sorry for launching this offtopic-fest!
[03:10] <Nilbus> Hello.  I'm running Xgl [Xgl :3 -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[03:10] <Nilbus> and Xgl segfaults when I run something like glxgears
[03:11] <bascule> Khisanth: averaged 30 logged in users
[03:11] <Khisanth> bazhang: was that a desktop? :)
[03:11] <Nilbus> X dies and restarts
[03:11] <bazhang> Khisanth: it is a desktop! :}
[03:11] <Gurby> hi
[03:11] <Nilbus> any ideas on how I might fix this problem?
[03:11] <bazhang> hi gurby
[03:11] <RequinB4> hello gurby
[03:11] <bazhang> boo: windows cannot be booted? grub problem?
[03:12] <boo> yeah
[03:12] <bazhang> boo yeah to both?
[03:12] <boo> its a grub problem but no one in #grub knows how to help (or noone is therE)
[03:12] <boo> yeah to both
[03:12] <bazhang> boo which was installed first?
[03:12] <Gurby> hello
[03:12] <bazhang> boo want a link?
[03:12] <boo> windows came preinstalled with its own recovery partition
[03:12] <boo> sure
[03:13] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu boo
[03:13] <nickrud> Dr_willis, that's why swap needs to be BIG
[03:13] <boo> this isn't a normal problem
[03:13] <bazhang> gurby we need a question to help you
[03:14] <boo> is telling grub to boot a partition and setting the partition as bootable the same thing?
[03:14] <bazhang> boo none of them are; thus the moniker 'problem' :}
[03:14] <boo> :P
[03:15] <bazhang> boo is windows listed in grub menu?
[03:15] <ce_imoet> hi
[03:15] <boo> yes
[03:15] <bazhang> hi ce_imoet
[03:15] <RequinB4> hi ce_imoet
[03:15] <ce_imoet> hi
[03:15] <boo> originally, i booted to windows and got a BSOD
[03:15] <bazhang> boo and it refuses to boot?
[03:15] <boo> then i did fixboot/fixmbr and igot NTLDR is missing
[03:15] <jing_> To Pelo, I use the "putty" to connect an UNIX(HPUX) from an PC(Ubuntu 7.10) via network, andnow i want to display the xterm in my PC, so ,i type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0" in the UNIX, type "xhost + " in my PC, and then type "xterm &" in UNIX(HPUX), however it can not work, My PC's IP is 192.168.0.101, and i am sure that i do not type the incorrect word, i don't know why it can't work in Ubuntu, it work very well in RedHat and Mandriva
[03:15] <bascule> what
[03:15] <boo> now i just get a blinking underscore
[03:15] <ce_imoet> what are you doing?
[03:15] <bascule> boo: what file, ntfs.sys? (on that bsod)
[03:16] <bazhang> boo hmm problem with windows,, that is something new I think
[03:16] <bazhang> ce_imoet: this is a support channel
[03:16] <boo> i could read the bsod, it was too fast
[03:16] <crimsun> jing_: did you explicitly enable trusted X forwarding in putty?
[03:17] <bascule> boo: download a boot util known as gag and burn the cd, boot it and read the instructions, reckon it will rescue you
[03:17] <Khisanth> and a X server running on your PC :)
[03:17] <ce_imoet> whatever
[03:17] <boo> thanks
[03:17] <masticator> Is there a good DVD burning software for Ubuntu for burning an AVI to a DVD as a Video Disk?
[03:17] <bascule> boo: well ot's past that now, but you can tap F8 and say disable automatic restart on failure
[03:17] <bazhang> devede masticator
[03:17] <RequinB4> !devede
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <jing_> to crimsun, i am sure that the X forwarding's enable in putty
[03:17] <ce_imoet> hjk
[03:18] <masticator> bazhang thanks a lot!
[03:18] <amerio> does anybody know how 2 add a sound card to alsa ?
[03:18] <crimsun> jing_: not just X forwarding.
[03:18] <bazhang> !ot | ce_imoet
[03:18] <ubotu> ce_imoet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:18] <bazhang> masticator: no worries :}
[03:18] <jing_> because, when i try the DISPLAY in my PC, it's still wrong
[03:18] <crimsun> jing_: note: trusted X forwarding.
[03:19] <Phophos> xtknight: I'm back. The command 'arecord' doesn't give me a volume meter in the terminal, and it also won't play back any recorded sound (assuming there is one)
[03:19] <crimsun> Phophos: it shouldn't give you a meter.
[03:19] <Phophos> xtknight: Oh, and I'm following this help page: http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/record.html
[03:19] <boo> is telling grub to boot a partition and setting the partition as bootable the same thing?
[03:20] <jing_> I start two "gnome-terminal", and in the first terminal type "xhost +", in the second terminal type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0" "xterm &", it don't work
[03:20] <Condoulo> ok, I already have Ubuntu install. But I want to install XP on my second hard drive. How does this sound. Disabling the drive with Ubuntu on it, then installing XP on the second hard drive, and then re-enable the ubuntu drive, and edit GRUB to recognize the XP drive.
[03:20] <amerio> does anybody know how 2 add a sound card to alsa ?
[03:20] <boo> sounds good to me, Condoulo , but i'm having lots of boot problems right now ^_^
[03:20] <bazhang> Condoulo: do you know how to do that?
[03:21] <Phophos> crimsun: I'm a little confused then ... How to test if my microphone is working?
[03:21] <Condoulo> bazhang- ummm.. the GRUB part I am still lacking in knowledge of. But I know I can go into BIOS and enable/disable drives.
[03:21] <crimsun> Phophos: System> Preferences> Sound
[03:21] <bazhang> Condoulo: then prepare to learn! :} want a factoid?
[03:21] <bascule> boo: no bootable partitions are legacy ms boot loader only technology
[03:22] <Condoulo> bazhang- sure.
[03:22] <masticator> Is there a command when doing an apt-get to tell it to go ahead and nistall ALL the reommended and suggested packages as well?
[03:22] <bazhang> !grub | Condoulo
[03:22] <ubotu> Condoulo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:22] <redd0t> use aptitude instead of apt-get masticator
[03:23] <redd0t> masticator: e.g. sudo aptitude install <package name>
[03:23] <wy> What's going on with the vim installed with ubuntu 7.10? It seems that nothing in VIM works by default, even if I turn off the compat mode
[03:23] <Phophos> crimsun: Okay, thanks :) I got the following error message: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:23] <Condoulo> bazhang- wouldn't I be able to just go by my plan though and then add windows XP to GRUB by editing the file that has it.
[03:23] <crimsun> masticator: Recommends are done by default.   -o APT::Install-Suggests=True
[03:24] <masticator> nice, thanks a lot!
[03:24] <musashi> anyone know how to change a file type? i have a torrent file that claims it's a text file and won't open.
[03:24] <bazhang> Condoulo: seems possible, though I never use windows :}
[03:24] <bazhang> musashi: re download it
[03:24] <Dr_willis> musashi,  you could just drag it to the torrent client.. most will load it that way.
[03:24] <Condoulo> bazhang- Ah. Well I have had an recent itch to game, so I have been wanting to re-install XP home.
[03:24] <musashi> bazhang, will try again
[03:24] <Dr_willis> musashi,  its also possible the torrent file is currupted..
[03:24] <Phophos> crimsun: And, to add insult to injury, gnome-sound-properties crashed.
[03:24] <musashi> Dr_willis, opening with deluge crashes it
[03:24] <bazhang> Condoulo: get a wii! :}
[03:24] <Condoulo> bazhang- but at the same time, keep my favorite Ubuntu. :)
[03:25] <Nilbus> I see on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompizFeedback that my video card (Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller) has the bug "3d crashes X".  It also says "Runs only with XGL, can run without it but it have the bug of no XV in video and you blacklisted it", which I don't really understand.  Is there a workaround so I can use 3d apps?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> musashi,  sounds more like a bad torrent file to me :)
[03:25] <bazhang> Condoulo: of course! :}
[03:25] <Condoulo> Bazhang- Well I have Half-life2 Death Match on my steam account. And have been itching to play that.
[03:25] <bazhang> Condoulo: you are forgiven :}
[03:25] <musashi> Dr_willis, if i can find it again i'll try redownloading it. thanks
[03:25] <theremper> hello does anyone know the terminal command to get to my desktop
[03:25] <Nilbus> theremper, cd ~/Desktop ?
[03:25] <bazhang> theremper: the graphical desktop?
[03:26] <Phophos> theremper: Can you be more specific?
[03:26] <theremper> no terminal desktop
[03:26] <crimsun> Phophos: what is the default source set to?
[03:26] <rainwalker> theremper: cd /path/to/desktop (replace that with the actual path)
[03:26] <crimsun> Phophos: using `gstreamer-properties`
[03:26] <theremper> ok thanks
[03:26] <SignallerFDC> hi all
[03:26] <ublender> Merry Christmas All
[03:26] <SignallerFDC> i am new
[03:27] <SignallerFDC> i am from singapore
[03:27] <musashi> Dr_willis, well, it must be corrupted on the site 'casue each time i download it it's a text file
[03:27] <Phophos> crimsun: Plugin: ALSA, Device: Default
[03:27] <bazhang> SignallerFDC: this is a support channel
[03:27] <theremper> thanks that worked
[03:27] <SignallerFDC> sorry
[03:27] <musashi> Dr_willis, thanks anyway.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> musashi,  open it in a text editor and see. :)
[03:28] <musashi> Dr_willis, it won't. says it can't open it.
[03:28] <boo> bascule, that didn't work
[03:28] <boo> same blinking cursor
[03:28] <musashi> Dr_willis,  The filename "35_Christmas_albums.torrent" indicates that this file is of type "BitTorrent seed file". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[03:28] <bazhang> musashi: come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:28] <Dr_willis> musashi,  fire up gedit. tell it to open it?
[03:28] <theremper> i know this is an ubuntu form but I was wondering if anyone knows of a distro that is lite and easy to use also support for flash 9
[03:29] <bazhang> theremper: go to #linuxhelp
[03:29] <crimsun> Phophos: tried something other than alsa for the source, like oss?
[03:29] <theremper> ok thanks
[03:30] <Phophos> crimsun: It failed to construct a test pipeline for that, too ...
[03:30] <crimsun> Phophos: make sure you close everything using the audio device
[03:30] <Phophos> crimsun: Nothing is, as far as I know. Is there a v. quick way to check?
[03:31] <theremper> does anyone else have a problem with flash loading very very slow
[03:31] <crimsun> Phophos: record something to a file.  Try audacity.
[03:31] <redd0t> theremper: flash in linux sucks. adobe is the antichrist
[03:32] <bascule> boo: what happened?
[03:32] <theremper> reddot that is sad I need flash
[03:32] <Phophos> crimsun: It's not crashing it anymore :S
[03:32] <redd0t> theremper: i mean i still use adobes flash, but it does suck.
[03:32] <bazhang> redd0t: perhaps but way offtopic
[03:33] <boo> bascule, i told it to boot windows and i still just see this blinking cursor
[03:33] <theremper> I have one windows machine left in my house that is for flash only. If I could fix flash then windows would be out of my house
[03:33] <boo> im almost positive something is wrong with my partition table, boot sector or mbr
[03:33] <bascule> boo: but how, did you save gag to the mbr?
[03:33] <bazhang> theremper: flash is broken right now--not an ubuntu issue but one with adobe
[03:34] <boo> i installed gag, but when i rebooted, it went to grub
[03:34] <theremper> could I install flash in wine and firefox in wine and use windows flash
[03:34] <redd0t> theremper: yes
[03:35]  * Condoulo hates Adobe
[03:35] <redd0t> Condoulo: me too
[03:35] <theremper> I am starting to hate adobe
[03:35] <Phophos> crimsun: I don't have Audacity and apt-get doesn't want to install it for some reason - can't connect to the archives.
[03:35] <Zoo> How can I make a file to have read and write access?
[03:35] <Zoo> chmod but what else with it?
[03:35] <theremper> would that solve my flash problem?
[03:35] <bazhang> theremper: talk about slow--that will be molasses
[03:35] <Condoulo> I love Adobe, but at the same time, I hate them with a Passion.
[03:36] <theremper> any suggestions or just keep the windows machine
[03:36] <redd0t> theremper: idk. i have never wined ff+flash. the problem is there aren't any good alternatives to flash and its a huge part of the internet now
[03:36] <Phophos> What
[03:36] <bazhang> theremper: you have to have the fix at this moment? there is a workaround for flash
[03:36] <Phophos> What's that open-source alternative to Adobe Flash called? It's a plugin for Firefox?
[03:36] <bazhang> gnash
[03:37] <theremper> yes but does gnash support flash9
[03:37] <nickrud> Phophos, gnash , but it's still a work in progress, doesn't work on youtube for example
[03:37] <nickrud> !flash | theremper
[03:37] <ubotu> theremper: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:37] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:37] <redd0t> i thought gnash wasnt really ready yet
[03:37] <Phophos> nickrud: Yeah. Doesn't work on most video sites. But it's got a cute name.
[03:37] <bazhang> the only reason to use flash youtube and it does not support it sorry for the offtopic
[03:37] <theremper> I have flash 9 installed its just really slow
[03:38] <nickrud> Phophos, heh. for some reason open source developers like silly names :)
[03:38] <Mr_Sonoma> Zoo, chmod a+rw filename
[03:38] <redd0t> how slow
[03:38]  * Phophos grins wildly.
[03:38] <bazhang> theremper: then it may be a hardware issue--flash is no problem here
[03:38] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: Ty
[03:38] <bazhang> theremper: what computer how much ram etc
[03:38] <theremper> perhaps but on my previous os the same machine flash was fine?
[03:39] <Phophos> Can anyone get a response from archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:39] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: Hmm. Didn't work
[03:39] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: Still belongs to root, I cant modify it
[03:39] <bazhang> theremper: you want to try to fix it or chat about it?
[03:39] <theremper> fix it
[03:39] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: nvm
[03:39] <Mr_Sonoma> ah, ok then use sudo chmod a+rw filename
[03:39] <bazhang> theremper: then answer my question how much ram what computer etc
[03:40] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: And how can I make it not executable
[03:40] <theremper> ok here are my small specs 384 megs ram 1 ghz proc
[03:40] <bazhang> Phophos: yeah but real slow
[03:40] <NixPanther> Hi guys, I recently put a different DVD drive and a CD RW into my machine and I can'r get them to work in Ubuntu. Any idea's?
[03:40] <Dark-Magician> My sister got on the computer and made the titlebars on windows disapper and i have no idea how she did, anyone know?
[03:40] <xtknight> Phophos, sorry ive been away what's up/
[03:40] <Phophos> xtknight: It's okay, thanks for your continuing support.
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> Zoo, sudo chmod a-x filename should do it
[03:40] <bazhang> theremper: the ram is the issue I believe--that is bare bones as it is
[03:41] <xtknight> Phophos, i havent really ever recoded audio before so all i could suggest is messing w/ mixer
[03:41] <Phophos> xtknight: I'm trying to make a recording, but nothing wants to have anything to do with the microphone.
[03:41] <bazhang> Dark-Magician: did you ask her?
[03:41] <theremper> so more ram would solve the problem
[03:41] <Dark-Magician> shes 2 an a half..
[03:41] <crimsun> Phophos: pastebin your amixer output.
[03:41] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: Thanks a lot
[03:41] <bazhang> theremper: how old is this computer
[03:41] <Mr_Sonoma> Zoo, man chmod for more detail on how that command works
[03:41] <bazhang> Dark-Magician: okay, you lost the panels?
[03:42] <theremper> I don't know each part is different built it from trash
[03:42] <Zoo> Mr_Sonoma: Ok
[03:42] <Dark-Magician> just the title bar with like close window ect
[03:42] <chaosrl> does anyone know if virtualbox and vmware-player read the same .vmdk files?
[03:42] <bazhang> chaosrl: as in interoperable?
[03:42] <chaosrl> yeah
[03:42] <theremper> runs ubuntu overall great just a flash problem
[03:42] <bazhang> theremper: five years plus?
[03:43] <bazhang> chaosrl: then no
[03:43] <chaosrl> bazhang, ok, thanks
[03:43] <theremper> the motherboard and processor yes the video card 4 years the hd 2 years the ram 1 year
[03:43] <turdy> hi
[03:43] <Phophos> crimsun: Am doing ... My interwebs is being inexplicably slow
[03:44] <turdy> just installed ubuntu via live cd... Now when I boot it, no display shows up (worked when using livecd)
[03:44] <chaosrl> then, i have another general question: can anyone help with installing and configuring vmware-(player/server)? i've tried installing both multiple times, with no luck
[03:44] <bazhang> theremper: the internet is getting ever more demanding in video terms--upgrading the ram at least should help though the video card might also be a suspect
[03:44] <turdy> any tips on what is going on?
[03:44] <chaosrl> !virtualbox
[03:44] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:44] <theremper> ok thanks
[03:44] <bazhang> chaosrl: go to #vbox for virtual box, not sure about vmware though they do have forums
[03:45] <upintilldawn> well updating this to 7.10 fixed the wireless
[03:45] <chaosrl> my vmware installations always go smoothly until i try to start the program, then i just get the "Starting VMware" in my task bar and then it dissappears
[03:45] <upintilldawn> but still can not get java to load on any web sites
[03:45] <magicrobotmonkey> hey bazhanf, do you knoiw if this is supposed to work for the new nano: http://www.niceguyuk.ukshells.co.uk/2007/09/making-new-ipods-work-with-linux.php
[03:45] <chaosrl> bazhang: i'll try #vbox, thanks
[03:45] <turdy> anyone with any ideas?
[03:46] <theneb> Hi all, I've got a few issues with my radeon Xpress 200m. Trying to get fglrx to work but now glxgears crashes X
[03:46] <bazhang> magicrobotmonkey: you have to do that every time you add music though--bit of a headache imo
[03:46] <NixPanther> !wait
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Heh - i have  a x200m. it aint hardly got enough power to run glxgears..
[03:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:47] <jewbilee> !patience
[03:47] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:47] <bazhang> upintilldawn: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:47] <theneb> Dr_willis: ever got anything 3d to work with it?
[03:47] <Dr_willis> I just used the 'restricted-manager' tool to install the fglrs drivers.
[03:47] <upintilldawn> did that
[03:47] <Dr_willis> theneb,  it can do some things.. cant do compiz.
[03:47] <NixPanther> thats the one! THanks Jewbilee
[03:47] <upintilldawn> still not working
[03:47] <theneb> Dr_willis: mine does compiz
[03:47] <jewbilee> ;)
[03:47] <theneb> well .. did
[03:47] <bazhang> turdy: you need to give more info
[03:47] <upintilldawn> may just wait and try again after i get the new cds in a few weeks
[03:47] <nickrud> lol, theneb you installed the ati drivers, and I bet you used the ati installer
[03:47] <Dr_willis> theneb, i dident even try installing the xgl  X thing for compiz.. dident want to mess with it.
[03:48] <bazhang> upintilldawn: you just need to install the codecs
[03:48] <Dr_willis> I even removed compiz :)
[03:48] <theneb> nickrud: had been using the ubuntu, of which didn't load up 3d. Now used envy and things are worse :S
[03:48] <tyler2435> http://danny.oz.au/danny/humour/green-eggs-linux.html
[03:48]  * Dr_willis marks one up for Envy!
[03:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:48] <bazhang> upintilldawn: the flash sites are waiting for the fix from adobe
[03:48] <nickrud> theneb, oh, the envy story. The factoid used to say than anyone who used envy would envy those who didn't
[03:49] <upintilldawn> i am wanting java
[03:49] <upintilldawn> not flash
[03:49] <upintilldawn> can care less for flash lol
[03:49] <bazhang> upintilldawn: what is the exact error
[03:49] <theneb> nickrud: so it's all a false front. Envy doesn't work that well as promised?
[03:50] <jewbilee> is there an expected time for flashplugin-nonfree to be working again?
[03:50] <magicrobotmonkey> bazhang, yea i just want to temporarily unbreak my wifes new ipod...
[03:50] <upintilldawn> well when i head to a web site that uses java all i see is a gray box where the java should be
[03:50] <bazhang> magicrobotmonkey: lots of unbreaking in the future haha
[03:50] <nickrud> theneb, you could probably recover by reinstalling libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri and ligl1-mesa-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx and the restricted modules
[03:50] <magicrobotmonkey> heh
[03:51] <bazhang> upintilldawn: like what exactly?
[03:51] <nickrud> theneb, for many it does, for many it doesn't
[03:51] <Dr_willis> upintilldawn,  install the ubuntu-restricted-extras that should grab java and a lot of other packages you proberly want.
[03:51] <bazhang> upintilldawn: just saying it doesnt work wont get you much help here--need to give more precise info see !doesntwork
[03:52] <nickrud> theneb, then if you really want the latest ati, go to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[03:52] <amerio> can any1 help me concerning alsa drivers pleaaaaase?
[03:52] <upintilldawn> ok i hav opened the synaptic package manager
[03:52] <upintilldawn> and that rpogram is check and installed
[03:52] <nickrud> theneb, at least with that, you can recover fairly gracefully
[03:52] <Dark-Magician> note to self, never let sister near computers again...
[03:52] <upintilldawn> bazhang when i got to a site like runescape
[03:53] <theneb> reinstall syntax with apt?
[03:53] <bazhang> Dark-Magician: it all fixed? you can lock the screen you know
[03:53] <upintilldawn> witch uses java for the game it will not load. the window just urns grey
[03:53] <nickrud> theneb, sudo aptitude reinstall  libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri  ligl1-mesa-glx xorg-driver-fglrx  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) . No promises, however ;)
[03:53] <Dark-Magician> no its still not fixed and f11 didnt fix it
[03:53] <bazhang> upintilldawn: web address?
[03:54] <upintilldawn> www.runescape.com
[03:54] <Dark-Magician> i get file and the buttons and all just the title saying whats the program and close window buttons are gone
[03:54] <bazhang> Dark-Magician: you want to readd the top panel and the icons on it?
[03:54] <upintilldawn> man i am too new to irc.. can not find out how to soa  privete send lol
[03:54] <Dark-Magician> sounds right..
[03:55] <Dark-Magician> depending on the version a /query nickhere works
[03:55] <nickrud> Dark-Magician, try alt-f2 metacity --replace
[03:55] <bazhang> upintilldawn: what am I looking for on that site?
[03:56] <upintilldawn> head to any game try to go to a game world
[03:56] <nickrud> Dark-Magician, don't blame your sister for this one
[03:56] <bazhang> upintilldawn: I need to be a member?
[03:56] <reimorster> hi, merry xmas for everybody
[03:56] <upintilldawn> not to just load the game window
[03:56] <NixPanther> bah humbug
[03:56] <Dark-Magician> nickrud: tysvm
[03:56] <upintilldawn> that is how i am testing my java
[03:57] <bazhang> load game window? where is that upintilldawn?
[03:57] <Dark-Magician> no you dont need to be a member to load the game window
[03:57] <Dark-Magician> just to log into the game fully
[03:57] <upintilldawn> ok give me a min
[03:57] <bazhang> what is the link for that?
[03:57] <Dark-Magician> just hit the buttons to play, random world, and low quality
[03:57] <Dark-Magician> off the RS main page
[03:57] <upintilldawn> click play runescape
[03:58] <upintilldawn> then i say low detail
[03:58] <Dr_willis> Testing out RUnescape now..
[03:58] <Dark-Magician> its a good java test, and again tyvm
[03:58] <upintilldawn> just click choose best world
[03:58] <Dr_willis> well it seems to be working.. its updating somthing. playing some muzak
[03:58] <upintilldawn> darn
[03:58] <upintilldawn> then why is it not working here
[03:59] <upintilldawn> grr
[03:59] <upintilldawn> i talled the icetea java when it asked for it
[03:59] <bazhang> wow it is slow loading
[03:59] <upintilldawn> have that program group installed
[04:00] <upintilldawn>  lol
[04:00] <upintilldawn> never said it was fats
[04:00] <upintilldawn> fast
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > upintilldawn
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Well i can say that Runescape seems to be working for me fine - under Kubuntu
[04:01] <upintilldawn> i am using ubuntu 7.10
[04:01] <upintilldawn> maybe  will just wipe and reinstall
[04:01] <upintilldawn> thinking something may ed rightnot have install
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > upintilldawn
[04:01] <upintilldawn> grr
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> upintilldawn: Then stop
[04:01] <nickrud> upintilldawn, did you install    sun-java6-plugin  ?
[04:01] <upintilldawn> hate the laptop mouse
[04:01] <gazuk> hello everyone
[04:01] <bazhang> runescrape is ok here, just really slow loading upintilldawn
[04:02] <Dr_willis> upintilldawn,  you did instal the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package to get java and other  things?
[04:02] <upintilldawn> sun-java6-plugin was installed once
[04:02] <upintilldawn> yes dr willis i have
[04:03] <bazhang> do you have java disabled in firefox? upintilldawn
[04:03] <upintilldawn> no first thing i checked
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Well it looks like an ok game.. but the Huge banner at at the top saying "Are you a Good Kisser"  is goingto get me in trouble with the wife. :)
[04:03] <nickrud> upintilldawn, you running the 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu
[04:03] <upintilldawn> 64 bit
[04:03] <bazhang> upintilldawn: was firefox running when you installed java? upintilldawn
[04:03] <nickrud> tada!!
[04:03] <upintilldawn> no
[04:03] <bazhang> Dr_willis: haha
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Ding, ding, ding
[04:04] <IdleOne> I setup a second user couple months back on my system but I dont remember the pass how do I change it or find out what it is?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> i really have to wonder about some of the thought going into these banner ads
[04:04] <gazuk> I got a question i have a dual boot ubuntu and windows reinstalled windows so i reinstalled grub but now i cannot access windows it is a different disk i use windows for gaming
[04:04] <bazhang> 64 bit java is the problem then upintilldawn?
[04:04] <nickrud> upintilldawn, 64bit doesn't have a working java plugin
[04:04] <bazhang> gazuk: want a grub factoid?
[04:04] <upintilldawn> guess i will have to use the 32 bit on a 64 bit computer then
[04:05] <IdleOne> !grub | gazuk
[04:05] <ubotu> gazuk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:05] <bazhang> happy to help upintilldawn
[04:05] <Phophos> upintilldawn: You can get Firefox32. There's a very good install script on the official Ubuntu forums. This comes with awesome plugins for Java and Flash and something I forget.
[04:05] <upintilldawn> know of any groups in the stockton cali area lol
[04:05] <the_darkside_986> !openssl
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <nickrud> upintilldawn, that's what I was running it in, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 has a howto
[04:06] <_alf_> !flash
[04:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:06] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:06] <upintilldawn> phophos i will look into it after i reinstall this to wipe out any mess ups
[04:06] <the_darkside_986> does anyone know where the source INCLUDE folder for openssl is in Ubuntu? i have no idea where to find it
[04:06] <Phophos> (Y) @ upintilldawn
[04:06] <Ttech> Where do I find whre custom themes are in ubuntu?
[04:06] <bigmoe> 1st i have to say that gusty is pretty cool man..
[04:07] <bazhang> Ttech: themes for what?
[04:07] <Ttech> like display themes?
[04:07] <upintilldawn> because i also think i installed something wrong
[04:07] <the_darkside_986> Preferences > Appearance for themes
[04:07] <Ttech> bazhang, GTK
[04:07] <bazhang> Ttech: gnome-look.org
[04:07] <the_darkside_986> under *System i mean
[04:07] <cua0> anyone know what the package name for the ident daemon is?
[04:07] <bazhang> identd?
[04:07] <Phophos> Thanks for everyone's help!
[04:07] <Ttech> No! no no... :P I mean I need to find where they are i nthe my user forlder, because I need to restore them to my new system
[04:08] <upintilldawn> ok brb going to check this site out
[04:08] <nushto> does anyone know if there's a way to set per-access-point wireless settings?
[04:08] <Ttech> bazhang, don't get me started on gnome-look.org! :P
[04:08] <tarelerulz>  What is good program for making charts ? something that has columns and you can name the columns and you could input number and it would calculate?
[04:08] <nushto> like if associating with AP x, make static ip, if not, use dhcp?
[04:08] <amerio> anybody can help me with alsa driver?
[04:08] <bigmoe> i just wanted to ask if anyone know how to put the cpu temperature thingy and ram percentage icon on toolbar
[04:08] <fsanlu> MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! and if u dont celebrate christmas.. well HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON BECAUSE WE ALL DESERVE IT! hugs for everyone.
[04:08] <Ttech> fsanlu, nicely said
[04:08] <bazhang> caps fsanlu haha
[04:09] <cua0> fsanlu: same to you :)
[04:09] <Ttech> Anyone? :(
[04:09] <fsanlu> hahaha :] its such a wonderful time!
[04:09] <bazhang> Ttech: where did you store them? I keep mine in documents...
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !find msgfmt
[04:09] <ubotu> File msgfmt found in gettext, libgettext-ruby-util, xviewg-dev
[04:10] <nushto> ok does anyone know what I should google to get per-access point network settings? this was trivial in gentoo, but I can't seem to find anything like it for ubuntu
[04:10] <the_darkside_986> i am trying to do #include <openssl/somefile.h> but i can't figure out where openssl folder is so i can put it in my INCLUDE path. any ideas?
[04:10] <bazhang> nushto: the settings for AP? as in the starbucks, home, etc?
[04:11] <Ttech> bazhang, thats what I'm asking. Here do themes go when you save them?
[04:11] <nushto> bazhang: yes, I want static IP at home, and DHCP elsewhere
[04:11] <amerio> bazhang: have any idea about alsa?
[04:11] <bazhang> amerio: want a factoid?
[04:11] <kenan> hi, how come whenever i add a launcher to simdock, when i log out and log back in, the launchers dont show anymore? the dock loads up but it shows that i have no launchers, how do i fix this?
[04:12] <amerio> bazhang: my soundcard isnt detected
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !find glib
[04:12] <ubotu> Found: libarts1-mpeglib, libavahi-glib-dev, libavahi-glib1, libdbus-glib-1-2, libdbus-glib-1-dev (and 55 others)
[04:12] <nushto> the_darkside_986: have you tried: locate somefile.h | grep -i openssl
[04:12] <bazhang> nushto: so you want roaming and fixed at the same time? how was that done in gentoo?
[04:12] <Ttech> bazhang,  I found it. ITs in .themes.
[04:12] <Ttech> :/
[04:12] <the_darkside_986> @nushto what directory do i run that command from? home?
[04:12] <bazhang> Ttech: aha :}
[04:12] <nushto> doesn't matter
[04:12] <nushto> any dir
[04:13] <the_darkside_986> oh ok thanks
[04:13] <bazhang> amerio: what does lspci say about that card (tell me dont paste here)
[04:13] <upintilldawn> nickrud ty for the link trying to install it now going to see how it works
[04:13] <bazhang> :{
[04:13] <imyousuf> Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam
[04:13] <the_darkside_986> oh wait i didn't have ssldev installed, oops. it seems to work now. thanks everyone
[04:14] <amerio> bazhang: it only shows the on board card , but the card i wanna use isnt showing
[04:14] <imyousuf> similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint
[04:14] <nushto> bazhang: basically once you specify some specific access point in the wireless file, you can just prefix any command with essid_   (essid_config, essid_route, etc)
[04:15] <bazhang> nushto: ah. the cli command?
[04:15] <alphonse> deuce
[04:15] <nushto> bazhang: in the /etc/wireless file, yes,
[04:16] <nushto> bazhang: for example, from the gentoo docs: config_ESSID1=( "192.168.0.3/24 brd 192.168.0.255" )
[04:16] <kriel> Hello. Is there any way I can get a list of software that I've installed on this computer? I'm about to do a fresh install (for example purposes, mostly) but I want to have a log somewhere of what software I've added after the initial install.
[04:17] <kriel> Oh, and I'm using 7.10
[04:17] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-485280.html nushto like this?
[04:17] <bazhang> dpkg -l kriel
[04:17] <nickrud> !clone | kriel
[04:17] <kriel> bazhang: Thanks!
[04:17] <ubotu> kriel: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[04:18] <nushto> bazhang: hm, no because that's just setting wireless settings, not IP settings
[04:18] <bazhang> alphonse this is a support channel
[04:18] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[04:18] <nushto> bazhang: oh I didn't realize that network manager would ... ignore those settings anyways
[04:19] <nushto> I kind of assumed they would try to integrate those together
[04:19] <Romes> merry christmas ladies and gentlemen :)
[04:20] <RequinB4> merry christmas Romes
[04:20] <bazhang> nushto: network-manager is a pita imo
[04:20] <nushto> bazhang: agreed
[04:20] <bazhang> amerio: what does aplay -l say (tell me dont paste here)
[04:20] <nushto> I read this thing a while back how NM is supposed to be the greatest thing ever, I find it always gets in my way though
[04:21] <bazhang> nushto: yup, the cli is way better and faster too :}
[04:21] <nickrud> for a wireless illiterate like me, nm-applet was a savior
[04:21] <bazhang> nickrud: hard to believe haha
[04:21] <amerio> bazhang : card0 intel and card0 intel
[04:22] <nickrud> bazhang, my skills are narrow and shallow :)
[04:22] <bazhang> amerio: what about lspci -v (again dont paste just tell me)
[04:22] <jinxed-> hey
[04:22] <nushto> sup
[04:22] <jinxed-> I just upgraded and I am having some problems
[04:22] <bazhang> nickrud: thou are too modest methinks :}
[04:22] <bazhang> jinxed need more info :}
[04:22] <Rp3> whats the best way to find the mem leaking app, slowly but surely my mem is being eaten?
[04:22] <nushto> nickrud: that's what she said
[04:22] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I just install I am having some problems
[04:22] <jinxed-> bazhang, for one my screen resolution is very poor
[04:23] <gazuk> how to windows in grub after reinstalling grub?
[04:23] <bazhang> Rp3: search for firefox
[04:23] <amerio> bazhang: it shows that soundblaster card exists in the list
[04:23] <cua0> bazhang: hahaha
[04:23] <upintilldawn> nickrud. I installed that 3 in 1. bu can not ind he firefox32 i installed though it.
[04:23] <gazuk> how do i find where is windows using ubuntu?
[04:23] <bazhang> amerio: what about alsamixer?
[04:24] <Rp3> using swiftweasel is it normal for it to have 8 PIDs?
[04:24] <amerio> hazhang: open the alsamixer for Intel
[04:24] <bazhang> Rp3: not sure sounds wrong though
[04:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I'm getting these glitchy white boxes around everything
[04:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> is that normal?
[04:24] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[04:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> ~
[04:24] <Rp3> yea, let em shut down swiftweasel adn see what happens in htop
[04:25] <nickrud> upintilldawn, it should have been installed to /usr/local/bin , just type alt-f2 firefox32 (and it should have an icon under apps->internet)
[04:25] <bazhang> Rp3: what about killall iceweasel
[04:25] <Rp3> well they went away, but still using 1gig of mem right now?  Hmmmm
[04:25] <bazhang> oops swiftweasel rp3
[04:25] <Rp3> like it's not getting it back?
[04:25] <bazhang> rp3 open top
[04:25] <YourOnlyRealFrie> so should I just wait for my turn to speak?
[04:25] <gazuk> can anyone help me?
[04:25] <bazhang> YourOnlyRealFrie: using compiz?
[04:26] <jinxed-> bazhang, do you know how i can fix my resolution?
[04:26] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, no, you got lost in the scroll
[04:26] <nushto> gazuk: what is your question?
[04:26] <bazhang> jinxed-: what card and what driver
[04:26] <YourOnlyRealFrie> bazhang: uh, is that the video driver?
[04:26] <bazhang> YourOnlyRealFrie: the compositing manager
[04:26] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, a new install;  what kind of video card do you have?
[04:27] <jinxed-> bazhang, its nividia hang on on the number
[04:27] <bazhang> what a xmas!
[04:27] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  mobility radeon
[04:28] <amerio> hazhang: so..
[04:28] <bazhang> gazuk: so your windows install sounds broken
[04:28] <bazhang> gazuk: you can scan for viruses iirc from linux though
[04:29] <gazuk> i ran windows but as soon i reinstalled grub i lost windows i now is still there but i cannot access it
[04:29] <upintilldawn> nickrud got ice to work. and it is running that site ty for that link. and ty all for your help
[04:29] <bazhang> amerio: did alsamixer launch?
[04:29] <amerio> bazhang: launched
[04:29] <bazhang> amerio: what about the dmesg for that card?
[04:29] <Rp3> ok seems like I have 418mem, and 559 in cache?
[04:30] <Rp3> used I mean
[04:30] <jinxed-> bazhang, it is a 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce GO 6600 128MB Video Card
[04:30] <amerio> hazhang : dmesg?
[04:30] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, which one, like 200m , or x1300 , or whatever.  in a terminal (apps->accessories->terminal)  type  lspci | grep -i vga  to get the exact number if needed
[04:30] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, gotta step away for a few, brb
[04:31] <bazhang> jinxed-: and what is the driver? installed from where?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !find libxml2
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: libxml2, libxml2-dbg, libxml2-dev, libxml2-doc, libxml2-utils (and 2 others)
[04:31] <overrider> hello there, is there a way to install ubuntu without the graphical user interface (gnome) ?
[04:31] <jinxed-> bazhang, i wouldn't know
[04:31] <jinxed-> bazhang, how would I tell
[04:32] <jinxed-> bazhang, it is in my laptop
[04:33] <bazhang> jinxed-: did you install 3D drivers for it? want a link on how to do so?
[04:33] <paul928>  overrider -install ubuntu server
[04:33] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: m6 ly
[04:33] <jinxed-> i would like a link to bazhang
[04:33] <bazhang> overrider: the minimal install?
[04:34] <bazhang> !nvidia | jinxed-
[04:34] <ubotu> jinxed-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <gazuk> how i can find windows to install it in grub?
[04:34] <overrider> bazhang, yes, just a minimal install
[04:34] <bazhang> gazuk: you have asked and been answered
[04:34] <bazhang> !minimal | overrider
[04:34] <ubotu> overrider: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:35] <jinxed-> bazhang, I am using the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver
[04:35] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, could you give me the line that    in a terminal (apps->accessories->terminal)  type  lspci | grep -i vga    shows
[04:36] <bazhang> gazuk: you need to read up on grub--I will give the link again...:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:36] <YourOnlyRealFrie> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[04:36] <bazhang> jinxed-: installed from the repos?
[04:36] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[04:37] <bazhang> jinxed-: please dont say ENVY.. :}
[04:37] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, ok, a sec, thanks for the line
[04:37] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: you're welcome
[04:38] <bazhang> haha
[04:38] <jinxed-> all i did was go to System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manger
[04:38] <jinxed-> and checked the box that was there
[04:38] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg jinxed- try that
[04:39] <bazhang> overrider: that what you wanted?
[04:39] <Ttech> Hi, is there a way I can configure lib notify?
[04:40] <jinxed-> bazhang, did you catch that? I just went to System->Administration-> Restricted Drivers Manger
[04:40] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, you have a fairly old chip there I guess. A thinkpad?
[04:40] <overrider> bazhang, yes, though i always have downloading problems due to bad connection, so maybe i try to get the server version, if that installs without a gui . thanks though, ill play with all the options
[04:41] <bazhang> jinxed-: yup--what about the xserver reconfigure command?
[04:41] <YourOnlyRealFrie> rickrud: I'm not sure I got this from my aunt, yeah it's old
[04:41] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[04:41] <jinxed-> bazhang, i don't know what you are talking about :/
[04:41] <bazhang> overrider: the alternate cd can do it as well iirc
[04:41] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: like 6-7 years old
[04:41] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, do you have any experience with linux at all? I have found something that should help, but you need to edit a configuration file
[04:41] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: haha no, I don't
[04:41] <bazhang> jinxed-: in the terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:42] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  but I'd appreciate it id you left it at that I have to go
[04:42] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  If you could lead me to the configuration file or something
[04:42] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, ok, here's the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadR40-2681 , section 6 , and it goes into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  this should work even if I don't have a thinkpad?
[04:43] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, yes, it's the same chip, and it talks about how it fixed 'strange texturing'
[04:44] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: ok thanks
[04:44] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, use the exact stuff there, your line you posted tells me it has the correct bus id as well
[04:44] <tofaffy> Meh *goes to get his usb hd setup*
[04:45] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  alright, I will
[04:45] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: and if I have any problems I'll come back here
[04:45] <jinxed-> bazhang, it did something, but I have no Idea what to do there
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: FYI, I just built / compiled the latest pidgin for Feisty...  Dont see much difference
[04:46] <jinxed-> bazhang, I will give you remote acess if you would like
[04:46] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, you're always welcome :)
[04:46] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, heh, never ever used it
[04:46] <bazhang> jinxed-: it did something? care to specify?
[04:46] <jinxed-> well some sort of menu thing popped up
[04:46] <jinxed-> but there was a ton of different screens
[04:47] <jinxed-> i alternated betweens escs and enters until i was out
[04:47] <squarebracket> is there a default user/pass for mysql? i can'
[04:47] <squarebracket> t seem to login to my mysql
[04:48] <bazhang> jinxed-: there is where you need to choose the variables..
[04:48] <jinxed-> most of the screens refered to stuff I don't understand
[04:48] <squarebracket> oh shit, nevermind.
[04:49] <jinxed-> I could give you remote desktop capiabilities
[04:49] <silent_> ssh ftw
[04:49] <silent_> jinxed-: he's gonna look thru ur pronz
[04:49] <jinxed-> silent_, if thats the cost of fixing this awful resolution
[04:50] <jinxed-> i am more then willing to pay it
[04:50] <jinxed-> :)
[04:50] <jinxed-> silent_, how do you select something in the xserver-xorg configuration
[04:50] <bazhang> jinxed-: do you know what resolution your laptop supports?
[04:50] <jinxed-> is it enter?
[04:50] <quaal> does anyone use rssfeed plugin in azureus and know how to set it to delete/stop the torrent once it is done uploading to a certain ratio
[04:50] <silent_> jinxed-: xorg.conf?
[04:51] <bazhang> quaal: not really a ubuntu question
[04:51] <quaal> bazhang, i use azureus in ubuntu.
[04:51] <jinxed-> 15.4" WSXGA TFT LCD DISPLAY 1680x1050
[04:51] <bazhang> quaal: still offtopic
[04:51] <silent_> quaal: and I'm sure people in fedora run it as well, go bother them
[04:51] <nickrud> dang that is a tight screen
[04:52] <silent_> holy shit... that's so high
[04:52] <bazhang> jinxed-: then enter that resolution in the choices field
[04:52] <silent_> oops, sorry
[04:52] <bazhang> silent_: language
[04:52] <silent_> that is one epic laptop screen though, you have to admit
[04:52] <jinxed-> bazhang, what is the select button---? enter?
[04:52] <jinxed-> space
[04:52] <jinxed-> or what
[04:53] <bazhang> jinxed-: tab
[04:53] <jinxed-> no i mean once you get what you want how to you "click it"
[04:53] <jinxed-> is it enter?
[04:53] <silent_> space?
[04:53] <jinxed-> space works?
[04:53] <silent_> should
[04:53] <silent_> hit it
[04:54] <silent_> I really wonder how you installed ubuntu
[04:54] <bazhang> enter jinxed-
[04:54] <Fezzler> Who's up for some fun?
[04:54] <cua0> i just made fried eggs, and bacon, on toast! i rule!
[04:55] <silent_> check out my wine version... wine-0.9.51-224-g7034b92
[04:55] <silent_> das rite
[04:55] <bazhang> Fezzler: not on this channel
[04:55] <Fezzler> I'm trying to connect an old Win CE 2.11 device to Ubuntu via serial-usb cable and IP connection
[04:55] <Fezzler> bazhang:  Ha.  No, that kind of fun!
[04:55] <bazhang> Fezzler: what device?
[04:56] <Fezzler> HP 620 LX.  Found a neat site but I think serial instructions are not Ubuntu/Debian
[04:56] <Fezzler> http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/linux-serial.htm
[04:57] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[04:57] <Fezzler> Instructions say to run "cat /proc/net/irda/discovery" but I have no "irda" in /proc/net folder
[04:58] <MasterShrek> Fezzler, irda is for infared afaik
[04:58]  * cua0 nods
[04:58] <cua0> irda = infrared
[04:59] <tofaffy> hwne I plug in my SD card and delete stuff off of it, and then take it out and put it back in it shows the stuff I deleted, yet I put it in my camera and the pictures aren't there....wtf?
[04:59] <Fezzler> yea, but he says it can be adapted to serial
[04:59] <cua0> adapted.
[04:59] <cua0> key word
[05:00] <Fezzler> looks cool.  I couldn't get Multisync to work with Win CE over a serial-to-usb cable.  Ubuntu sees the cable
[05:00] <Aztec007> HELP!
[05:00] <cua0> most serial-to-usb cables don't work properly
[05:00] <cua0> Fezzler: what cable are you using?
[05:01] <Aztec007> I was trying to attach a second monitor to my PC and messed with the resolution, and now I cant see anything, its all blurry!
[05:01] <Fezzler> Belkin
[05:01] <punzada> Merry christmas all :)
[05:01] <bazhang> Aztec007: set it back to the original then
[05:01] <cua0> Aztec007: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:01] <Aztec007> bazhang: how?
[05:01] <Fezzler> Belkin F5U109
[05:01] <Fezzler> Merry Christmas!!!
[05:02] <Aztec007> cua0: how can I get to it before the login screen pops up?
[05:02] <bazhang> http://www.innismir.net/projects/hp620linux/quickinstall.php this link Fezzler?
[05:02] <Aztec007> cua0: because the login screens all messed up too
[05:02] <Shadow147> Fezzler and most cards won't support a second monitor
[05:02] <jinxed-> bazhang, ok it seemed to work!!! next question... I dual boot windows xp and ubuntu, and when I upgraded instead of having just Ubuntu/windows on my select screen I have Windows and 6 varients of Ubuntu... 3 regular and 3 safe or recovery or something like that
[05:02] <cua0> Aztec007: just ctrl+alt+F1-6
[05:02] <cua0> and login at cli
[05:02] <silent_> say I have a script I've created, and I want to be able to access that script universally as a "binary"... what kind of link do I create between the script and /usr/bin to make this happen?
[05:02] <bazhang> jinxed-: success?
[05:03] <jinxed-> bazhang, ok it seemed to work!!! next question... I dual boot windows xp and ubuntu, and when I upgraded instead of having just Ubuntu/windows on my select screen I have Windows and 6 varients of Ubuntu... 3 regular and 3 safe or recovery or something like that
[05:03] <Fezzler> bazhang: I'll check that one out
[05:03] <thor> silent_ ln -s
[05:03] <silent_> thor: thanks
[05:03] <Aztec007> cua0: so its ctrl+alt+F1+6? all thos four buttons?
[05:03] <dave_> I am having a problem.  I am at my in laws trying to fix the network, to use a router so multiple pc's can share the internet.  Well before I tackled that problem, I have noticed something real quick.  I have two computers here.  #1 Is fluxbuntu desktop that I am using right at this moment to connect to the internet.   #2 is Ubuntu gnome 7.10 32bit laptop that is my personal computer that works out of box fine on my home network.   When I co
[05:03] <dave_> nnect #2 Laptop directly to the cable modem the internet does not work
[05:03] <gazuk> i got ubuntu and windows but i can access ubuntu but now windows since i reinstalled grub.
[05:03] <bazhang> jinxed-: those are not to be worried about--different kernel versions iirc
[05:03] <cua0> Aztec007: no, F1-F6
[05:03] <TNDT> hey, i just installed windows xp onto the 3rd partition on my laptop (1st is ubuntu and 2nd is swap). now the computer boots only to windows, never to ubuntu. anybody able to help me with this problem?
[05:04] <jinxed-> bazhang, does it matter which one I select?
[05:04] <Aztec007> cua0: oh, f1 and f6?
[05:04] <cua0> Aztec007: no, F1 to F6, it doesn't matter which tty you use
[05:04] <bazhang> jinxed-: best not to choose the windows one :} the top ubuntu one is likely best
[05:04] <moDumass> hey all, im trying to update my version of songbird, and the web says use the auto update functio
[05:04] <cua0> Aztec007: ctrl+alt+f7 will take you back in to X
[05:04] <gazuk> to reinstall grub need a live cd
[05:04] <Aztec007> cua0: I have to hold all of those buttons?
[05:04] <moDumass> its greyed out though, i suppose i could be using the newest version but i doubt it
[05:04] <thor> TNDT when you install windows it overwrites the grub install...you need to reinstall grub. Give me a sec
[05:04] <jinxed-> hmm I just chose the ubuntu one with the highest number
[05:04] <TNDT> ok
[05:05] <TNDT> iv got a livecd loaded already, actually, figured that would be the first step
[05:05] <Shadow147> TMDT it's best to install XP first then Ubuntu so GRUB can become the MBR
[05:05] <TNDT> just pm me when ur ready
[05:05] <Fezzler> bazhang:  That link does not load for me
[05:05] <jinxed-> so I understand that beryl is not needed in this new version because desktop effects got merged or something. Is that right bazhang ?
[05:05] <cua0> Aztec007; yes all the buttons i listed CTRL+ALT+F1 (or f2, or f3 or f4 or f5....)
[05:05] <gazuk> i reinstalled grub but i cannot access windows
[05:05] <Aztec007> ok
[05:05] <moDumass> Jinxed i have the same problem, but i have 12 or 14 ubuntu installation choices, i only really need the top 2 though i guess
[05:05] <bazhang> dave_: the internet is broken? or you cannot get a dhcp client?
[05:06] <Aztec007> cua0: and I do this before the splash screen loads
[05:06] <krimezz> I just finished installing Ubuntu, the computer restarted and now it wont start up, there is no boot loader that comes up and it just hangs. Any ideas?
[05:06] <dave_> bazhang, Well my laptop cannot get a dhcp client cause obviously the other computer can.
[05:06] <bazhang> moDumass: songbird has to be compiled iirc
[05:06] <gazuk> sudo -i , grub, find /boot/grub/stage1, root (hd0,1), setup (hd0) quit and reboot.
[05:07] <thor> TNDT http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49519/ .... pay attention and read it all first. I think the last part that starts with 'Boot from Ubuntu Live CD' will be what you want.
[05:07] <Aztec007> cua0: I'm gonna need some extra fingers....... I'm gonna try that now
[05:07] <Shadow147> well I installed windows long before linux so when I did install ubuntu Grub became the Primary Boot loader windows boot loder became secondary
[05:07] <jinxed-> so I understand that beryl is not needed in this new version because desktop effects got merged or something. Is that right bazhang ?
[05:07] <bazhang> dave_: is there a router available? hard to troubleshoot an ethernet connection with only one non-working one
[05:07] <Shadow147> jinxed !compiz
[05:07] <TNDT> ok, il check it out, thanks
[05:07] <bazhang> jinxed-: that would be compiz want a link?
[05:07] <Shadow147> !compiz
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:07] <moDumass> bazhang, random, since there is an "update" option dropdown ment
[05:07] <moDumass> menu
[05:08] <michaelkthx> hi
[05:08] <jinxed-> sure... does that mean i should uninstall beryl? bazhang
[05:08] <dave_> bazhang, Yes, I have a router but no computer will work behind it.  I am sitting paitiently in #dd-wrt for that problem as well.
[05:08] <moDumass> bazhang, but i found this also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[05:08] <Shadow147> jinxed yes u should
[05:08] <thor> TNDT and pay particular attention to the lines that have (hd0,x) or hd(0,x)....that second number has to match the partition for windows or linux...and note that if you are using hda6 partition, it is 0,5 in the command....the count starts at 0
[05:08] <bazhang> jinxed-: install ccsm-- see !ccsm for more details
[05:09] <jinxed-> bazhang, how do I uninstall beryl?
[05:09] <jinxed-> it usually freezes up on me anyway :/
[05:09] <bazhang> jinxed-: sudo apt-get remove beryl
[05:10] <trlancaster> hi. anyone know which package keyboard layouts belongs to? I would like to reinstall it as I can't get composite characters to work in French - Canadian
[05:10] <moDumass> yeh jinxed, and to enable ccms youl need to play with advanced desktop settings under system>preferences
[05:10] <bazhang> moDumass: from the application? and this was downloaded from a web site and then you compiled it?
[05:10] <reportingsjr> How do I get my internal ip? I tried ip addr in terminal and got a ton of stuff in which I can't see the address.
[05:10] <jinxed-> bazhang, I can't decide what to get my girlfriend for christmas... any ideas?
[05:10] <moDumass> bazhang yeh ages ago though
[05:10] <thor> reportingsjr ifconfig
[05:10] <bazhang> jinxed-: eeepc?
[05:10] <jinxed-> haha
[05:10] <moDumass> but now inside the app there is an update option
[05:10] <reportingsjr> thor: Thanks! Also, any idea how to make my internal ip static? I can only find how to do it on windows :(
[05:10] <Aztec007> cua0: I'm sorry for asking again, but do I press ctrl+alt plus F1 AND F2 (and so forth and so forth) OR do I have the option of pressing one of the F buttons (F1-F6)?
[05:10] <bazhang> moDumass: then you have to do it again--every time there is a new version in fact
[05:11] <CarlFK> how do I enable the svideo out on a laptop with ATI M26 [Radeon Mobility X700]
[05:11] <jinxed-> !ccsm
[05:11] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:11] <cua0> Aztec007: seriously? F1, OR f2 or f3..
[05:11] <thor> reportingsjr not sure in ubuntu...would need to log into my server. I think you can set up a static ip using the network manager applet. The actual definition is stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:11] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[05:12] <Fezzler> bazhang: did you type this link in correctly?  http://www.innismir.net/projects/hp620linux/quickinstall.php
[05:12] <bazhang> trlancaster: the language support for Fr-Canadian is not installed?
[05:12] <jinxed-> bazhang, how do I install the compizconfig-settings-manger
[05:12] <Aztec007> cua0: ok, I got it now, sorry, I'm new to linux and I'm kinda gettting it, as u can see
[05:12] <reportingsjr> thor: Can I just edit it in that file?
[05:12] <bazhang> Fezzler: yeah, it didnt load for me either
[05:12] <mk> booting with ubuntu cd, says logging on as ubuntu, logs on apparently, but soon it just goes back to 'logging on as ubuntu in...'
[05:12] <gandhii> in ubuntu studio..  your ip settings are at /system/administration/network
[05:13] <bazhang> jinxed-: sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:13] <trlancaster> bazhang: no, but I have fr_FR.utf8
[05:13] <jinxed-> I did the !ccsm but i don't know how to install something
[05:13] <jinxed-> ah
[05:13] <jinxed-> ok
[05:13] <Fezzler> What's the Ubuntu equivalent of "cat /proc/net/irda/discovery"
[05:13] <cua0> jinxed-: or if you are in X, you can use the synaptics package management system
[05:13] <moDumass> bazhang those mozilla bastards if.. by the power of Greystoke they didnt make such awesome shi# I well, I know nothing so they would all be idle threats.. darit
[05:13] <TFF> After upgrade to 7.10;  was informed I needed to run {  #  asoundconf   set-default-card  PARAMETER }. How od I determine the parameter?
[05:13] <cua0> Fezzler: cat /proc/net/irda/discovery
[05:13] <bazhang> trlancaster: not sure where they are stored, you can apt-cache search in the terminal for french and see what pops up though
[05:13] <mk> aside from doing that repeatedly, it does nothing. how can I get it to boot?
[05:13] <Shadow147> mk hmm your cd burn could be bad or your ubuntu ISO is corrupted
[05:13] <jinxed-> w00t
[05:14] <jinxed-> its doing something!
[05:14] <bazhang> languguage moDumass
[05:14] <trlancaster> bazhang: does the fr-canadian keyboard layout depend on a language pack?
[05:14] <moDumass> and by darit i mean darn it, and it would be me idely threatening
[05:14] <bazhang> trlancaster: you have to adjust the kb-layout as well iirc
[05:14] <jinxed-> !ccsm
[05:14] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:14] <moDumass> thanks baz, i #ed myself, its kind like a "bleep"....
[05:14] <Shadow147> mk did you any download mamgers when downloading the ISO?
[05:14] <mk> Shadow147, I got it as a torrent
[05:14] <Shadow147> mk ok
[05:15] <Shadow147> mk did you pause it at anytime
[05:15] <mk> no, and that won't do anything to a torrent
[05:15] <moDumass> il try this compiling thing again, would i need to uninstall the old version first or will it overwrite it?
[05:15] <mk> they're checksummed
[05:15] <bazhang> System > Preferences > Keyboard | Layout tab trlancaster
[05:15] <jinxed-> bazhang, is there anyway to improve the boot time for ubuntu?
[05:16] <bazhang> jinxed-: more ram? :}
[05:16] <jinxed-> lol
[05:16] <bazhang> jinxed-: if you google ubuntu speed tweak you will get some nice links
[05:16] <Shadow147> mk checksummed to me means jackshit I have been checkedsummed for one iso and it was corrupted
[05:16] <cua0> faster processor, more ram.. you could start mucking about in the kernel and stuff
[05:16] <hsteve> anyone please how do i get audio for ubuntu what folder is it in in the manager task
[05:16] <hsteve> ?
[05:17] <trlancaster> bazhang: I have the layout installed and activated, but I can't make e with a circumflex, which is a composite character. I can make all the other single-keystroke chars
[05:17] <Benalex> My home folder is /home or /home/username?
[05:17] <bazhang> !ohmy | Shadow147
[05:17] <ubotu> Shadow147: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:17] <xenthro> all of a sudden my touchpad stopped scrolling and double-tapping doesnt allow me to drag icons or move scrollers... I am forced to use the buttons... any ideas
[05:17] <trlancaster> Benalex: /home/username
[05:17] <cua0> Benalex; /home/username
[05:17] <Shadow147> bazhang sorry about that
[05:17] <Fezzler> cuao:  Check this out. http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/linux-serial.htm
[05:18] <Benalex> trlancaster, cua0 thank you :)
[05:18] <cua0> Benalex: in cli type pwd when at ~$
[05:18] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329656 trlancaster
[05:18] <Fezzler> cuao:  I have the Win CE side ready, now I need to do the Ubuntu side
[05:18] <TFF> My audio is dead after upgrade to 7.10;  was informed I needed to run {  #  asoundconf   set-default-card  PARAMETER }. How do I determine the parameter?
[05:19] <mk> it's a bit of a pain. I'd like to switch, but I tried it maybe a year ago and it took me ages to mount, and get my screen working at a proper resolution. Now it won't boot up properly
[05:20] <bazhang> mk: more info please
[05:20] <mk> I keep reading about how nice the install is - you can start using it while it installs itself and all that, so am I the only one with this sort of problem
[05:20] <jinxed-> bazhang, we have an emergency.... Xmoto doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[05:20] <cua0> Fezzler: it's a zero not an o. my recommendation to you is to hook the pda up via serial and skip that part of the tutorial about the infrared.
[05:20] <Shadow147> mk try redownloading the iso via torrent but if it becomes corrupt again just download it via a download mirror and let it downloads
[05:20] <mk> booting with ubuntu cd, says logging on as ubuntu, logs on apparently, but soon it just goes back to 'logging on as ubuntu in...'
[05:21] <bazhang> !doesntwork | jinxed-
[05:21] <ubotu> jinxed-: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:21] <Shadow147> mk the data on the iso could have been corrupted
[05:21] <jinxed-> bazhang, I click on it and nothing happens
[05:21] <Fezzler> cua0: Apologies.  That's what I'm trying to do.  serial.  Re: "Yes, you can use serial - just stick one of the the following example lines in your inittab"  WHere do I find "inittab"
[05:22] <bazhang> mk: the culprits could be burn speed, faulty media, or corrupt iso file, alternately you could try the alternate installer cd
[05:22] <mk> Shadow147, that's not exactly helpful. it takes 4 hours to download. given that I've abandoned it before, it's probably safe to assume that I don't really want to dl again
[05:22] <bazhang> jinxed-: run it from the terminal and see what error it gives (tell me dont paste it here)
[05:22] <mk> I'll check the integrity, 1 min
[05:22] <krimezz> anyone have a minute to help me out.. I just spent all day getting my computer going and now it wont boot properly
[05:22] <cua0> Fezzler: /etc/init.d/
[05:22] <Shadow147> bazhang faulty media is the second possible
[05:23] <jinxed-> it says segmeation fault core dumped
[05:23] <Shadow147> mk what cd-r media did you use
[05:23] <bazhang> mk: if it passes the md5 sum then it is possibly what Shadow147 says, or burn speed too fast--possible your system does not meet the specs (outside chance of that)
[05:24] <reportingsjr> How do I set my internal ip as static?
[05:24] <gazuk> can anyone help me to find windows to install it in grub?
[05:24] <bazhang> gazuk: did you read those links?
[05:24] <xenthro> question: does the "~" in "xorg.conf~" mean that it is a backup?
[05:25] <bazhang> yes xenthro
[05:25] <mk> it's a new system, I used nero (still checking integrity)
[05:25] <bazhang> gazuk: until you do some reading on this dont expect a quick answer here
[05:25] <Shadow147> mk nero is a good burning program
[05:26] <Shadow147> mk did you use TAO or DAO
[05:26] <TFF> Anyone familiar with the command   asoundconf   set-default-card ?
[05:26] <xenthro> bazhang my xorg.conf file disappeared and at the same time my touchpad has gone nuts after I was messing around with dual monitor support... think i should reconfigure X?
[05:26] <bazhang> mk: Ive made tons of drink coasters in burning iso files on bad media or too fast
[05:26] <mk> Shadow147, unabbrev that?
[05:26] <msbhvn> anyone know how to pxe install with a hardy iso?
[05:26] <msbhvn> doesnt seem to have the pxelinux.0 file
[05:26] <J_Laptop> download them from the ftp site
[05:26] <thor> reportingsjr  here is my /etc/network/interfaces...it defines a static ip for my webserver...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49520/
[05:27] <J_Laptop> thats what I always do
[05:27] <bazhang> xenthro: worth a shot..
[05:27] <deadlock> Anyone get bitpim working? in gnome
[05:27] <cua0> xenthro: generally if your xorg.conf file is gone, you need to reconfigure.. but how did it get 'gone' ?
[05:27] <Shadow147> mk   TAO (Track At Once) DAO (Disk At Once)
[05:27] <J_Laptop> but, pxe-installing from the dev version can be problematic
[05:27] <mk> bazhang, I have very high confidence that it burned properly, but I am checking now (as soon as I can find my md5.exe)
[05:27] <J_Laptop> if they upgrade the kernel in the repo without building a new installer image
[05:27] <Shadow147> mk nevermind OS ISO's are normally DAO;s
[05:27] <imyousuf>  Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[05:27] <mk> Shadow147, not sure, I used the defaults
[05:27] <trlancaster> bazhang: thanks, but compose doesn't work for me at all
[05:27] <bazhang> mk: your confidence has nothing to do with it
[05:27] <Shadow147> mk ok
[05:27] <xenthro> bazhang i had to reconfigure it the last time i was mesing around with dual monitors... but x didnt disappear
[05:27] <storm> hello
[05:28] <presto101> as a new convert to linux im looking for a linux distro home, question to long time users how stable has gutsy been for you?
[05:28] <Fezzler> cua0: in his example files, do I need to include the bracketed lines?  i.e. [/etc/ppp/cebox.chat]
[05:28] <reportingsjr> thor: Hmm, I'll check that out then :)
[05:28] <msbhvn> J_Laptop: so you mean just dl the iso via ftp and burn to cd and install the normal way or am i misunderstanding?
[05:28] <J_Laptop> that's what I'd recommend with the dev version, yes
[05:28] <msbhvn> ah, just no cdrom
[05:28] <J_Laptop> either that, or install gutsy via pxe
[05:28] <msbhvn> usually pxe install
[05:28] <cua0> Fezzler: are you using it as a modem?
[05:28] <J_Laptop> then dist-upgrade
[05:28] <Shadow147> mk what brand of CD writable data did you use?
[05:28] <bazhang> trlancaster: if you dont get an answer here then you can try in #ubuntu-fr or the ubuntuforums sorry I could not fix it
[05:28] <thor> reportingsjr should be able to edit your file with nano or vi or such. add the static setup and then restart the interface
[05:28] <msbhvn> yeah, will just try a dist-upgrade
[05:29] <bazhang> presto101: very
[05:29] <trlancaster> bazhang: thanks for the advice. I'll try ubuntu-fr - on this server?
[05:29] <hsteve> what audio tool should i use to configure my audio on ubuntu?
[05:29] <bazhang> presto101: and the support is teh best evah :}
[05:29] <gazuk> i have the information of finding windows but it is in another disk
[05:29] <bazhang> I believe so trlancaster
[05:30] <mk> Shadow147, taiyo yuden 4.7gb
[05:30] <reportingsjr> thor: Nano or vi? (Sorry, I'm really new to linux)
[05:30] <Shadow147> mk a DVD?
[05:30] <Fezzler> cua0: no, just connecting Win CE 2.11 HP 620 LX to Ubuntu 7.10 via Belkin F5U109 serial-to-USB cable
[05:30] <Pelo> reportingsjr, nano an vi are terminal based text editor
[05:30] <presto101> thanks bazhang ive read lots of good reviews but had seen a few commets talking about issues but with millions of users my guess is youll get that
[05:30] <Shadow147> mk you don't need something that big for ubuntu
[05:30] <thor> reportingsjr the config files in linux are for the most part stored in /etc. They are all simple ascii text files, so you can edit them with any editor. If you use gnome you can use gedit, kde use kedit
[05:30] <hsteve> anyone: what audio tool should i use to configure my audio on ubuntu?
[05:30] <cua0> Fezzler: i don't get why you'd need to modify anything in /etc/ppp/
[05:31] <Shadow147> just a regular cd-r
[05:31] <bazhang> presto101: what hardware? what ram? what wireless if any, what video card? those are the key questions :}
[05:31] <cua0> Fezzler: but sure, you remove the brackets.. of course.
[05:31] <mk> Shadow147, it's the only media I have
[05:31] <presto101> bazhang for me or others having issues
[05:31] <bazhang> hsteve: want a factoid?
[05:31] <reportingsjr> thor: So just start digging around etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:31] <hsteve> yes yes
[05:31] <bazhang> presto101: for us all :}
[05:31] <bazhang> !sound | hsteve
[05:31] <hsteve> you mean google
[05:31] <ubotu> hsteve: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:32] <Shadow147> mk well you are going to have to get regular cd-r
[05:32] <presto101> bazhang true
[05:32] <thor> reportingsjr you using gnome?
[05:32] <reportingsjr> thor: Umm, I think. That's default right?
[05:32] <Fezzler> cua0 : not sure how to revise this instruction to work with serial instead of ir http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49521/
[05:32] <TFF> How does one determine the "parameter" setting for the command   { asoundconf   set-default-card  parameter}?
[05:32] <bazhang> mk: I concur with Shadow147
[05:32] <jed> hi, i have 7.10 installed and i'd like to install xorg 7.3, is there a way i can update just that package (+its dependencies)?
[05:32] <cua0> Fezzler: me either..
[05:32] <Shadow147> mk you can buy them in 100 cd spools or $30 at a Wal-Mart
[05:32] <hsteve> ubutu :thanks that'll deffinitely work
[05:32] <Pelo> mk what are you attempting to do make a ubuntu install cd ? you can get the dvd if you only have dvds available
[05:32] <crimsun> TFF: it tells you.
[05:32] <Shadow147> mk for*
[05:33] <thor> reportingsjr well...maybe we should stick to the gui. You have the network applet running on the panel?
[05:33] <bazhang> hsteve: he is a bot :}
[05:33]  * Pelo wonders he's buting in 
[05:33] <Aztec007> cua0: hey cua0, I finally found the xorg.conf file, now what are the default settings for the monitor?
[05:33] <TFF> crimsun:   where?
[05:33] <crimsun> TFF: when you type `asoundconf set-default-card`
[05:33] <Shadow147> Pelo DVD iso's are much bigger
[05:33] <reportingsjr> thor: Umm, no. Network applet is under system>admin right?
[05:33] <mk> why would I need a regular cdr
[05:33] <reportingsjr> thor: Or network tools?
[05:33] <crimsun> TFF: (in gutsy, at least.)
[05:34] <Pelo> Shadow147, I know, mk I do beleive you can burn the cd iso to a dvd and it will still work , even if it seems like a waste of space
[05:34] <bazhang> mk: a 4.7 GB dvd? that seems awfully large
[05:34] <TFF>  crimsun: Thanks I'll give it a go.
[05:34] <Shadow147> mk Compact Disc Recordable
[05:34] <presto101> by support bazhang are you referring to the forums and irc or something else
[05:34] <thor> reportingsjr see if this helps....http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[05:34] <mk> I don't care in the least that it's a waste of space. it's only 75 cents if I remember correctly. I buy these in bulk
[05:34] <Helios> umm, will i get flamed if i ask a small question?\
[05:34] <bazhang> I thought they were 4.5...
[05:34] <Shadow147> Pelo DVD-R's are very Expensive
[05:34] <bazhang> presto101: all of it :}
[05:35] <Pelo> Helios, no you won'T
[05:35] <Pelo> Shadow147, 50 for 15$
[05:35] <bazhang> Helios: probably yes, but ask anyway :}
[05:35] <Benalex> Helios: Absolutely not!!
[05:35] <thor> reportingsjr nano will be easier to use than vi for you
[05:35] <Boohbah> vi > *
[05:35] <presto101> bazhang the irc does seem really active
[05:35] <mk> I am baffled that "burn it on to a cd instead of a dvd" is a legitimate diagnostic step
[05:35] <jed> hi, i have 7.10 installed and i'd like to install xorg 7.3 (i have 7.2-5), is there a way i can update just that package (+its dependencies)?
[05:35] <Shadow147> Pelo and I can get 100 Memorex CD-r for 20 at Wal-Mart
[05:36] <Helios> >>pelo i have been searching for a service back for a broadcom wireless modem and have had no luck
[05:36] <bazhang> mk: taiyo yuden? sounds suspect
[05:36] <TFF> crimsun: gave it a go. reply was { You have omitted a necessary parameter.  Please see the output from `asoundconf list`}
[05:36] <Pelo> Helios, service pack ?
[05:36] <reportingsjr> thor: How do I know what to put as gateway and subnet and such?
[05:37] <Shadow147> mk I would get either a pack of Fujifile Teon Memorex or Sony CD-R's
[05:37] <thor> reportingsjr those are going to be specific to your network. Are you using a wifi router?
[05:37] <Shadow147> mk fujifilm*
[05:37] <Aztec007> hey guys, I just got access to my xorg.conf file and I trying to set the monitor settings to the default, (i was messing with the resolution and messed it up) where do I enter the default settings in the xorg.conf file?
[05:37] <Helios> >>service pack *synaptic package manager*
[05:37] <reportingsjr> thor: Yep, netgear :)
[05:37] <gazuk> i got 4 hard drives i do not know where is windows to install it in grub..
[05:37] <thor> reportingsjr and what is your ip address now?
[05:37] <Phusion> Aztec007: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <mk> bazhang, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyo_Yuden
[05:37] <Pelo> Aztec007, device monitor
[05:37] <bazhang> http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/category/taiyo-yuden mk
[05:38] <Phusion> !fixres Aztec007
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixres aztec007 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Phusion> :/
[05:38] <Phusion> !fixres | Aztec007
[05:38] <ubotu> Aztec007: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:38] <thor> reportingsjr type 'ifconfig' in a terminal to find out
[05:38] <cua0> Aztec007: depends what the monitor is. lol. there might also be a few backups of the xorg.conf file in that directory, you could always mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and cp one of the backups to xorg.conf
[05:38] <Benalex> jed: sudo apt-get build-dep packagename to intsall dependencies of a package, then install the latest version of xorg at your own risk
[05:38] <Pelo> Helios, we call those packages , not pack or service packs,  and I beleive that you need to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper for the broadcom modems,  check in the forum , just do a search for your modem model  www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:39] <bazhang> mk: loads of fake taiyo yuden out there so beware
[05:39] <Fezzler> cua0: Last one.  So on his example files I DO need the first line but WITHOUT brackets  Look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49522/   B?
[05:39] <Greevous> Merry Christmas!
[05:39] <Aztec007> Phusion: is !fixres a command?
[05:39] <reportingsjr> thor: Ok, thanks :)
[05:39] <bazhang> gazuk: did you read that link?
[05:39] <thor> reportingsjr it will be the inet address when you type ifconfig
[05:39] <gazuk> yes
[05:39] <Phusion> Aztec007: nope
[05:39] <Shadow147> mk so it would be best to stay away from off name brands
[05:39] <xenthro> how do I make a backup of a file in the console so that it has a "~" extension?
[05:39] <Phusion> Aztec007: the details I just gave you are commands
[05:40] <mk> bazhang, these are legitimate, I've burned many of them, etc. my media is not the issue. I'll check the burn in a second, as soon as I can find an md5 utility. meanwhile, perhaps there's some other thing thit this could be?
[05:40] <osxdude> Night all, i need to get sleep
[05:40] <cua0> Fezzler: i cant open your links, sorry. i have no idea.. maybe paraphrase?
[05:40] <gazuk> but it does not help me since it is in another drive and i do not know where is windows located..
[05:40] <Pelo> xenthro, sudo cp source source~
[05:40] <Benalex> sweet dreams osxdude , Merry XmaS :)
[05:40] <xenthro> pelo thanks
[05:40] <michaelkthx> what's the command to remotely restart gdm
[05:40] <reportingsjr> thor: What if the iface eth0 inet dhcp isn't in the file?
[05:40] <Shadow147> mk I used a HP invent CD-R for my ubuntu CD and it work perfectly
[05:40] <Aztec007> cua0: ok, I'll perform a "find" command for the xorg.conf.bak file
[05:40] <Helios> PELO thank you , i will try what you have suggested and sorry , just recently got fed up with windows :P
[05:40] <thor> reportingsjr one thing at a time....did you type ifconfig into a terminal?
[05:40] <jed> Benalex: how to i explicitly specify xorg 7.3?
[05:40] <mk> Shadow147, please stop commenting on the burn until I do the checksum
[05:40] <bazhang> gazuk: if you read the link as you claim, then you would have a more informed question to ask
[05:41] <jed> Benalex: and do i have any options to downgrade back to 7.2-5?
[05:41] <Aztec007> THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR BEARING WITH ME :)
[05:41] <Pelo> Helios, try reading the wifi documentation as well
[05:41] <reportingsjr> thor: Yeah
[05:41] <osxdude> You too, Benalex :)
[05:41] <Pelo> !wifi > Helios check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[05:41] <crimsun> TFF: so use the command it told you :)
[05:41] <thor> reportingsjr there should be at least two interfaces...'lo' and one other...what other interface(s) do you see?
[05:41] <Pelo> Aztec007, it's our cross to bare
[05:41] <imyousuf> My laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help
[05:41] <Benalex> jed : about downgrading.. I don't know... let me look for the package name
[05:41] <Fezzler> cua0: If some suggests creating a file and the first line is for example        [/etc/ppp/cebox.chat]  <-- Is that a comment or is it needed in file?
[05:41] <Aztec007> ...
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Fezzler,  a comment normally starts with a #
[05:42] <reportingsjr> thor: Err, where would that be? I see auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[05:42] <gazuk> i am a beginner at linux i used to use windows and the names in a drive are not the same..
[05:42] <jed> Benalex: xserver-xorg   1:7.2-5ubuntu1 the X.Org X server <-- what I have now
[05:42] <Pelo> imyousuf, ou might want to look that up in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:42] <krimezz> does anyone know about mount points?
[05:42] <reportingsjr> thor: That's all that was in the file though
[05:42] <Pelo> krimezz, we all do , do you have a specific question ?
[05:42] <Benalex> jed then its name is "xorg"
[05:42] <imyousuf> pelo: doing so
[05:42] <Dr_willis> krimezz,  perhaps give a littl more details about what you want to know.
[05:42] <cua0> Fezzler: er, /etc/ppp/cebox.chat might be a real file. try this, open a terminal, type updatedb, once thats done type locate cebox.chat
[05:42] <Shadow147> krimezz yes more details
[05:43] <Fezzler> Dr_willis:  Merry Christmas.  Here is what I'm trying to do via serial http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/linux-serial.htm
[05:43] <jed> Benalex: how do i specify which version to install?
[05:43] <thor> reportingsjr in the terminal when you type 'ifconfig' the answer should be at least two blocks of information. On the left edge each block will have a name like 'lo' or 'eth0' or 'wlan0'.
[05:43] <jed> benalex: i dont want to pull in all of alpha, just xorg
[05:43] <fsddfs> hey
[05:43] <fsddfs> i have a problem
[05:43] <Fezzler> cua0: cebox is the file he is asking me to create
[05:43] <TFF>  crimsun:  I did and had to run with " list " option. Feedback was UM1. Then I ran asoundconf   set-default-card UM1. Seems to have taken. Now I am not sure what the next step is.
[05:43] <Shadow147> fsddfs how can I help
[05:44] <cua0> Fezzler: cool, so what's the problem?
[05:44] <crimsun> TFF: log out and back in.
[05:44] <reportingsjr> thor: Ooooooh. ath0, eth0, lo, and wifi0-00
[05:44] <fsddfs> when i download file there is noot enough room on the disk to save
[05:44] <fsddfs> what does that mean
[05:44] <Benalex> jed... you won't specify any versions... you have xorg already installed.. which is the version tha ubuntu supports at the moment... but you prefer to install the latest version.. then you have to compile it
[05:44] <fsddfs> i have lots of free space
[05:44] <TFF>  crimsun:  Thanks
[05:44] <Pelo> fsddfs, what are you downloading it with ?
[05:44] <cua0> fsddfs: your partition is too small and there is no more room wherever you are trying to save?
[05:44] <Shadow147> fsddfs means your disk that you are saving to is full
[05:45] <fsddfs> a music
[05:45] <thor> reportingsjr looks like you have two wifi cards (ath0 and wifi0-00) and an ethernet card. The ath0 and wifi0 might be the same...atheros drivers can be weird.
[05:45] <fsddfs> with firefox
[05:45] <jed> benalex: so there is no way to pull in the alpha ubuntu build?
[05:45] <reportingsjr> thor: Odd, I only have a wifi card.
[05:45] <fsddfs> my partition 20 gb and 5.2 gb is in use
[05:45] <Fezzler> cua0: No problem.  Is the first line in brackets necessary?  Earlier you suggested yes, but remove the brackets.
[05:45] <Shadow147> fsssfs thats odd?
[05:45] <Pelo> fsddfs, space on your drive might be enouth but space on the partition where /tmp is located migth not be
[05:45] <reportingsjr> thor: No ethernet card thogh
[05:46] <Benalex> jed... honestly I don know
[05:46] <Dr_willis> what if the disk was mounted read only>
[05:46] <cua0> Fezzler: what first line?
[05:46] <thor> reportingsjr ....ok we will sort it out. For each of the interfaces you should see an inet addr:
[05:46] <fsddfs> Pelo,
[05:46] <fsddfs> what can i do ?
[05:46] <jed> benalex: thanks anyway :D
[05:46] <fsddfs> i am beginner on ubuntu
[05:46] <gazuk> probably the best thing to solve the problem with loading windows is deleting ubuntu and reinstalling it..
[05:46] <cua0> Fezzler: the brackets just show where the file is, i'm not sure why he put them in brackets. but you were right that if you remove the brackets you will have directories and files
[05:46] <Fezzler> cua0:  [/etc/ppp/cebox.chat]
[05:46] <Benalex> jed.. let me tell you something... try to be happy with ubuntu bundled software, because I tried it before.. (installing unsupported versions) and it drove me NuTs
[05:46] <Shadow147> well the /tmp file needs to be dumped
[05:47] <reportingsjr> thor: Nope, only on lo and ath0
[05:47] <cua0> Fezzler: do you have a terminal open?
[05:47] <Pelo> fsddfs, check where the file is being saved to , make sure of the size of the file and of the space available, if you don,t have enough freespace on that partiton try saving it to another partiton
[05:47] <sam_> hey can someone help me set up a windows partition so i can have both linux and windows on my laptop?
[05:47] <Pelo> krimezz, are you still with us ?
[05:47] <thor> reportingsjr see how easy...we will concentrate on ath0 from now on....
[05:47] <Fezzler> cua0: yes
[05:47] <fsddfs> Pelo,
[05:47] <fsddfs> my home parition is 20 gb
[05:47] <fsddfs> and 5.2 gb şs şn use
[05:47] <reportingsjr> thor: Haha, that's good!
[05:47] <thor> reportingsjr you will want the inet addr for ath0, and the mask
[05:47] <fsddfs> i download it to my home
[05:47] <Dr_willis> sam_,  i normally use a live cd. and the gparted tool to resize the existing windows install.. shrinking it. leving a section of the hard drive at the end 'unallocated' and letting the installer install to the unallocated space.
[05:47] <Benalex> sam_: so what partitions are currently on you harddisk?
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jed: Until you have some experience, stay with the repos.. or install a second copy of ubuntu on a different partition and play with that.. or have a second home partition to make reinstalls easier
[05:48] <Pelo> sam_, it is betterif you install windows first and then intall ubuntu , the ubuntu instaler will let you resize thewindows part to make room for ubuntu and it will create a boot menu so you can pick which os you wan t
[05:48] <reportingsjr> thor: Mkay
[05:48] <Shadow147> fsddfs try downloading it to your desktop
[05:48] <sam_> ahh i dont know who to answer
[05:48] <thor> reportingsjr what is the addr?
[05:48] <Sir_Sid> how do you get a python script to run at boot?
[05:48] <krimezz> I set up a fakeraid on my system, I decided no install linux on my non raided HD but my boot loader is on a raided hd so I need to have them reconized.. in the prepare partitions it shows both my partions of my raid drives both with a mount points of /media/mapper_nvidia_fbcbbebe, So my question would be how do I let the installer know what partition of my raid drive holds my bootloader and how to set up the mount points properly/
[05:48] <HardDisk> sam_, you still on that from yesterday?
[05:48] <sam_> huh?
[05:48] <Pelo> fsddfs, try and empty ~./Trash and /root/.Trash
[05:48] <jed> Benalex: i'm stuck on 800x600, im definitely not happy with that. im pretty sure that it has something to do with xserver/xorg because the xorg.conf from a knoppix cd works on knoppix but not ubuntu :(
[05:48] <sam_> harddisk: no i think yesterdays problem was solved
[05:48] <HardDisk> k
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > jed
[05:49] <HardDisk> morning ladies.
[05:49] <reportingsjr> thor: inet addr: 192.168.0.104, mask: 255.255.255.0
[05:49] <HardDisk> and merry ex mas
[05:49] <sam_> pelo: ill ask you since you have the easiest name..
[05:49] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: I've seen that about 5 times now
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > krimezz
[05:49] <sam_> pelo: currently i only have ubuntu
[05:49] <Pelo> krimezz, mount points can be anything you want, anywhere you want and they have nothing to do wit the boot process
[05:49] <Shadow147> mk are u still with us?
[05:49] <bazhang> haha
[05:49] <mk> yes :)
[05:49] <HardDisk> sam_, you wanna dual boot now?
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jed: And have you actually DONE any of it.
[05:49] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20651
[05:49] <Shadow147> mk ok
[05:49] <thor> reportingsjr ok. We need some more information. In the terminal type 'route -n' and look for a line that starts with 0.0.0.0. You need the gateway address from that line
[05:50] <sam_> harddisk: well originally i had vista
[05:50] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: YES
[05:50] <sam_> harddisk: but i erased it by accident installing ubuntu
[05:50] <thor> reportingsjr I bet it is 192.168.0.1
[05:50] <sam_> harddisk: dont want to make that mistake twice, right now im trying to install xp
[05:50] <Pelo> krimezz, grub identifies the partiton with hdA,B where a is the hdd and B is the partiton,  the numbering starts at 0,   , not sure how this is handled in raid,  you might want to read up on that
[05:50] <sam_> harddisk: but keep ubuntu
[05:50] <HardDisk> sam_, if you do want to dual boot, it's better to install xp first, then ubuntu afterwards. BUT it is possible to do the opposite, it will require more work from you.
[05:50] <Cwo_jomblo> sff
[05:50] <Pelo> !raid > krimezz check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[05:50] <mk> ok, b5d9aaa... is the md5. I can't seem to find the checksums on the ubuntu site
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jed: If you HAD, you would know generic vesa mode is 1024x768 and you would not be stuck at 800x600
[05:50] <reportingsjr> thor: Is your real name Nostradamus? Hehe, yeah, that's it.
[05:50]  * Pelo wonders why Jack_Sparrow isn'T in bed 
[05:50] <turdy> Ubuntu seems really slow with my ATI IGP 340M graphics card (Laptop), is there a way to speed it up
[05:51] <sam_> harddisk: although its more work if you can guide me id much rather install xp after now that linux is already on
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Watching the "OTHER" tow kids...
[05:51] <Pelo> turdy, have you installed the correct driver ?
[05:51] <gazuk> install the retricted drivers
[05:51] <thor> reportingsjr nah...just been there...done that. Now...in the terminal type 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[05:51] <sam_> harddisk: and i already did so much work to get linux to work right..
[05:51] <HardDisk> sam_, alright, gimme a sec.
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> two
[05:51] <thor> reportingsjr  we need the addresses for the nameservers
[05:51] <Sir_Sid> how do you get a python script to run at boot?
[05:51] <bazhang> sam_:  the search terms xp ubuntu dual boot lead to a great link for that
[05:51] <mk> what/where are the iso checksums?
[05:51] <open_lad> i have installed ubuntu in my machine and have hell lot of applications installed. now is it possible for me to make a cd of it so i can distribute among my friends.?|
[05:51] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  that sounds a little sinister if you ask me
[05:52] <Dr_willis> Sir_Sid,  depending on what its doing.. rc.local is a good place to start it.
[05:52] <reportingsjr> thor: I already have those
[05:52] <TFF> crimson: relogged.  audio is still down. everything worked prior to 7.10 upgrade. message at vol control reads {The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.} Any ideas?
[05:52] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: I *CAN* load up 1024x768 except I'm missing about 1" of screen space. Let me look into this "generic vesa mode" and see if that IS the problem.
[05:52] <Shadow147> mk I ignore checksums I don't bother with them
[05:52] <reportingsjr> thor: 74.128.18.101 and 74.128.18.100
[05:52] <sam_> harddisk: ok ill check that out first
[05:52] <bazhang> mk: you did not get them--from the same place you downloaded the iso?
[05:52] <moDumass> so if a hackers IP address is provided by the web host what can be done?
[05:52] <sam_> harddisk: and ask you questions if i run into any
[05:52] <Fezzler> cua0: were you headed to a suggestion?
[05:52] <HardDisk> sam_, sure
[05:52] <reportingsjr> thor: Wait a minute, in that it says 192.168.0.1
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: Mom is doing fine with the new one.. we are watching "Wound Up" other two
[05:52] <gazuk> good night to everyone bye
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[05:53] <mk> bazhang, I used a torrent, so really it should have checked it. I'm just doing this to ensure that the write isn't the issue
[05:53] <silent_> it's christmas guys
[05:53] <silent_> merry christmas
[05:53] <thor> reportingsjr ok. Then you should have what you need...gateway is 192.168.0.1, netmask is 255.255.255.0 and you need an ip address that starts with 192.168.0    I would suggest something like 192.168.0.11 ... numbers like .2 or .10 are often used by things like print servers
[05:53] <mk> (and by 'should have' I mean 'did')
[05:53]  * Dr_willis is a grinch
[05:53] <Pelo> silent_, keep the religious stuff out of this channel please
[05:53] <Pelo> ;)
[05:53] <silent_> HAPPY HOLIDAYS
[05:53] <bazhang> mk: you confuse the torrent hash and the md5 not the same thing
[05:53] <silent_> I'm sorry
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Happy Holidays..
[05:53] <HardDisk> sam_, look what you need to do, is create an empty partition for xp using gparted.  then boot with the xp cd, install xp on that empty partition, then you will need to reinstall (fix) grub and add the windows parition into the grub menu.
[05:53] <krimezz> pelo: thats what I went through it didn't mention anything about the bootloader, I decided to ditch the raid and install it on a non raid HD but once it finished installing and reboot my computer wouldn't start it showed no bootloader, I would rather bypass this fakeraid completly
[05:53] <jrattner1> Question: How do I keep the ubuntu splash screen after installing kubuntu base
[05:53] <abc> Happy holydays :)
[05:53] <thor> reportingsjr yeah...sometimes the wifi router forwards the dns
[05:53] <Highlife> Hey guys is it possible to get kino to export .ogg's as as mp4s?
[05:54] <silent_> Christmas has long since been a religious event in the eyes of >90% of children around the world
[05:54] <mk> bazhang, I'm not. torrents use hash to ensure integrity, I'm about to md5 it, as soon as I can find those checksums, which I can't yet...
[05:54] <abc> silent_: wrong
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !usplash > jra
[05:54] <open_lad>  i have installed ubuntu in my machine and have hell lot of applications installed. now is it possible for me to make a cd of it so i can distribute among my friends.?
[05:54] <bazhang> mk: hmm
[05:54] <mk> silent_, abc, on topic please
[05:54] <silent_> abc: you're totally right, christ is the one with a sleigh that hands out presents
[05:54] <Shadow147> mk bad media Burn Speed to fast, or Corrupted ISO are the main culprits
[05:54] <abc> silent_: Many many people do not celebrate christmas
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> open_lad: No..
[05:54] <bazhang> silent_: off topic
[05:55] <thor> reportingsjr remember to keep a copy of the original files in case something doesn't work
[05:55] <Pelo> krimezz, I would try and set the non-raid hdd as the boot hdd (in the bios)  during the install process,  that would probabaly take care of it
[05:55] <mk> Shadow147, what are the md5s for the isos?
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> open_lad: You can give them an origianl cd and clone your addons
[05:55] <HardDisk> Highlife, http://www.hartmut-seichter.de/view.php/page/note_kinowithmp4
[05:55] <abc> silent_: in fact we have a different calendar :)
[05:55] <silent_> abc, therefore it is not a religious event for them either, my point stands
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > open_lad
[05:55] <open_lad> jack, but its timeconsuming
[05:55] <bazhang> abc: please stop
[05:55] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: I looked through your FAQ yet again and there isn't anything relevant there that I haven't tried yet. Can you look into my problem instead of spamming FAQ links at me?
[05:55] <Pelo> krimezz, I'm not the best person to advise you on this,  I barely understand what raid is
[05:55] <reportingsjr> thor: what about network and broadcast?
[05:55] <krimezz> pelo that what they are
[05:55] <Dr_willis> open_lad,  ive seen some  guides that talk about it.. but  You might be better off just makingup a script that installs the stuff you have on your box. and edit out the various things they may not need. (video drivers and so forth)
[05:55] <Sir_Sid> how do you get a python script to run at boot?
[05:55] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, technically you can..
[05:55] <reportingsjr> thor: Oh wait! ifconfig has bcast, but network?
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> open_lad: !attitude > jed
[05:55] <Pelo> krimezz, I'm a bit confused
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Sir_Sid,  launch it from /etc/rc.local
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > jed
[05:55] <TFF>  crimson: relogged.  audio is still down. everything worked prior to 7.10 upgrade. message at vol control reads {The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.} Any ideas?
[05:56] <abc> silent_: sorry I missread your post >_<
[05:56] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, with a combination of aptoncd, sbackup
[05:56] <krimezz> pelo, that okie.. me too thanks for the help
[05:56] <thor> reportingsjr broadcast is in the ifconfig information....not sure what 'network' is...where do you see it?
[05:56] <Pelo> krimezz, grub is is two parts,  stage one is on the boot sector of the boot hdd,  stage 2 is where ever ubuntu is isntalled,
[05:56] <open_lad> internet is not available everywhere and how shall i get the packages and dependencies from my machine??
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: I agree..
[05:56] <cua0> Fezzler: sorry, i was afk
[05:56] <HardDisk> open_lad, you can. with aptoncd
[05:56] <thor> reportingsjr broadcast should be 192.168.0.255 I think
[05:56] <Sir_Sid> Dr_willis, where can I learn the syntax for editing this?
[05:56] <Elros> helo ubuntu world
[05:56] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you for proving my point :D
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: But he cant just remake a livecd with his install
[05:57] <reportingsjr> thor: Any clue about network?
[05:57] <thor> reportingsjr where do you see network?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Sir_Sid,  its just shell commands..
[05:57] <Shadow147> mk I have no Idea
[05:57] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, I disagree as well, he can but it will require him to do a lot of work, by customizing the livecd and including the apts in them.
[05:57] <Elros> hi guys
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Sir_Sid,  same as you would type at the command line.
[05:57] <open_lad> harddisk please explain
[05:57] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, ie in the cases of ubuntu ultimate edition.
[05:57] <Pelo> krimezz, if you think stage1 got installed on the wrong hdd,  you cna try and get the super grub cd and use that to install stage 1 where you need it to be and then piont it to where stage two is ,  you might hve to play in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to make sure taht the root add are pointing to the proper partitons
[05:57] <Sir_Sid> Dr_willis, so if I just enter the path to a python script, it will run the script at boot?
[05:57] <Elros> do you know where I can find an open software like Desktop multiplier
[05:58] <Pelo> krimezz, does that make any sense toyou ?
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: There is reconstructor and much more in addition...  but it isnt a simple soultion.
[05:58] <krimezz> pelo: without raid, does the boot section of grub get set automaticaly or do you define the partition /boot?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Sir_Sid,  yes... it will get ran as root user, at boot time. befor X starts up.
[05:58] <Pelo> Elros, you mean to have more workspaces available in ubuntu ?
[05:58] <jed> I'm having problems with X displaying 1024x768 correctly, can someone help trouble shoot it?
[05:58] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, no it isn't a simple solution, but you told him no it can't be done, when it fact it can be done.
[05:58] <Sir_Sid> Dr_willis, thank you
[05:58] <Shadow147> jed I can help
[05:59] <Pelo> krimezz, the partiton should get flagged as boot but i'm not sure that is related
[05:59] <HardDisk> but putting that aside.
[05:59] <Elros> Pelo: no, i want 1 PC to become 10 separate desktops
[05:59] <HardDisk> open_lad, gimme a sec. brb
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: I would be happy to discuss this in private.. I did say no, to his initial question but told him ways to get around it
[05:59] <thor> reportingsjr using the copy of interfaces I sent you earlier in pastebin....address is 192.168.0.11, netmask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.0.1 You will need to put in your wireless essid and wireless key if you are using one
[05:59] <Elros> its for my internet shop project
[05:59] <open_lad> what is aptoncd????
[05:59] <Pelo> Elros, look on the botom right of the desktop ( on ubuntu ) , see the two little sqares, right click on it
[05:59] <jed> Shadow147: cool, can you read through: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20651 - it explains everything in a much more organized manner
[06:00] <thor> reportingsjr and remember in your interfaces file this information will be for ath0, not eth0 ....my wifi is eth0
[06:00] <Pelo> !aptoncd | open_lad
[06:00] <ubotu> open_lad: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[06:00] <pvl1> is it possible to have a scrolling desktop?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> 10 virtual desktops is nto the same as 10 seperate X sessions.. :)
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: Spending 50 or so hours helping in here every week  month after month, you get a feel for what people want to do...
[06:00] <Shadow147> jed go to screens and resolutions in administration and set the screen to your monitor
[06:00] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, I know buddy, just making things interesting :)
[06:00] <Shadow147> and then your screen resolution
[06:00] <Elros> Pelo: can I use 10 different monitors for it? and also 10 separate keyboard an mouse
[06:00] <Shadow147> jed and then your screen resolution
[06:00] <Pelo> Dr_willis, sorry guess I didn'T understand the quesiton
[06:00] <jed> Shadow147: when I do that, I wind up missing about 1" of screen space and everything is fuzzy
[06:00] <Fezzler> cua0: I'm here
[06:01] <open_lad> ubotu, so i can use it to install those packages to other machine as well??
[06:01] <Pelo> Elros, no I thought you meant something else
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  heck.. perhaps I missunderstood. :) its almost bed time here.
[06:01] <thor> pvl1 yes, if you define the virtual desktop to be larger than the monitor screen. If your monitor is 1024x768 and you set up the desktop to be 2048x1536 for instance
[06:01] <Elros> Pelo: thanks
[06:01] <jed> Shadow147: I can set it to 1024 no problem, it just looks horrible and is completely unusable
[06:01] <Pelo> Dr_willis, read his last comment, I 'm not even sure this can be done
[06:01] <Elros> how do i change the resolution of ubuntu during boot
[06:01] <pvl1> thor, unfortunently i dont know what a virtual desktop is, or how to do that
[06:01] <mk> ok, the md5 checks out, and the burn seems good. so media isn't the issue. (I used ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386), so...
[06:01] <mk> booting with ubuntu cd, says logging on as ubuntu, logs on apparently, but soon it just goes back to 'logging on as ubuntu in...'
[06:02] <Fezzler> cua0: not sure what this means: For a Serial Connection       Yes, you can use serial - just stick one of the the following example       lines in your inittab, change /dev/irnine to /dev/ttySx and plug your docking station in.
[06:02] <Pelo> Elros, you might want to try asking your first question in ##linux
[06:02] <Khisanth> thor: that is a very annoying setup!
[06:02] <Elros> thanks
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jed the title says you cant get 1024 working, yet you admit you can, you just dont like it...
[06:02] <Pelo> mk,  what is your video card on that comp ?
[06:02] <Thingus> So, I have  CLI install that spouts nonsense about my NIC to the terminal on occasion...
[06:02] <mk> Pelo, onboard
[06:02] <Shadow147> jed hmm I had no problems and I am in 1240 x 1024
[06:03] <jed> Jack_Sparrow: are you going to help me or just waste my time?
[06:03] <Thingus> I can't remember the exact fix, but it invovled adding a boot option to grub.
[06:03] <Fezzler> cua0: there are many init.d files?  which one does "/dev/ttySx" go in?
[06:03] <Pelo> krimezz, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:03] <Pelo> mk, model please
[06:03] <jetscreamer> Thingus: printk
[06:03] <Pelo> mk,  at least maker
[06:03] <thor> Khisanth he asked if it was possible to set up a scrolling desktop...and that would do it. I in no way recommend it <smile>
[06:03] <mk> Pelo, 1 min I'll get my specs...
[06:03] <Fezzler> cua0: In my case it would be /dev/ttyUSB0
[06:03] <kriel> ok. i've got bit of problem... somehow i mnged to unregister my 'A' key, becuse i ccidentlly set it to shortcut in dvnced desktop effects settings... ny ides on how to fix this? becuse my typing is relly suffering from this...
[06:03] <jed> Shadow147: np, thanks anyway
[06:03] <fx_> Can someone tell me how I can create beeping in console?
[06:03] <fx_> Like I am making a bash script
[06:03] <fx_> but I want it to alarm at the end
[06:03] <cua0> Fezzler: ttySx isn't an actual device, ttyS0/1/2/3/4 etc. are
[06:03] <krimezz> pelo, I can get into menu.lst is there anyway I can make this file be not used and use the windows bootloader instead?
[06:04] <cua0> Fezzler : n/m you figured it out haha
[06:04] <thor> fx_ get a beep in a wav or au file and use the 'play' command
[06:04] <Thingus> jetscreamer: Not the right one... it was "irqdump" or something similar... But I don't want to add the wrong boot option and hose something.
[06:04] <Shadow147> jed your welcome
[06:04] <Dr_willis> fx_,  there was an advanced beep command at one time I saw in the repos
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !find beep
[06:04] <ubotu> Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beepcore-c-dev, beepcore-c0 (and 1 others)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> beep - advanced pc-speaker beeper
[06:04] <Khisanth> thor: and that seems to be called a virtual screen :)
[06:05] <fx_> thor I am connecting a remote box
[06:05] <Shadow147> !find worldforge
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: cyphesis-cpp, sear
[06:05] <Pelo> krimezz,  you would need to reinstall the windows bootloader,  menu.lst is specific to grub, I donT'htink you can make grub use the menu of another bootloader or viceversa, specialy not with MS stuff
[06:05] <fx_> i want it to beep like when I press TAB tewice
[06:05] <fx_> for completion
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> fx_: The #Bash room has lots of helpful peple with programming tips.. not necessarilly tonight but most times
[06:05] <Shadow147> !find world
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: kworldclock, cyphesis-cpp, gworldclock, sear, tworld (and 1 others)
[06:05] <Dr_willis> fx_,  check out beep - it can proberly do what you want.
[06:05] <Fezzler> cua0: but where does /dev/ttyUSB0 go?
[06:05] <Pelo> krimezz, the link I gave you , the supergrub cd lets you restore the windows mbr easily enough
[06:05] <fx_> Jack_Sparrow:  Cool thank you :)  I will ask
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:05] <fx_> Dr_willis:  Thanks man, will look :)
[06:05] <thor> Khisanth virtual screen....virtual desktop....they are virtually the same <hee!>
[06:05] <mk> my motherboard is msi rs482m4-ild
[06:06] <mk> Pelo ^
[06:06] <Elros> ubuntu is so cool
[06:06] <cua0> Fezzler: i don't have a clue, i haven't read the article you're reading.
[06:06] <Pelo> mk,  we need to know the chipset of the video
[06:06] <Shadow147> mk ?????
[06:06] <atarinox> can somebody tell me....i just installed gutsy and installed the flash-nonfree plugin from synaptic....is there something else I need to do to watch flash vids in firefox?
[06:06] <sam_> dr_willis: hey im still working on trying to install xp when i only have linux now
[06:06] <Khisanth> virtual desktop are the stuff you change through a desktop pager :)
[06:06] <Pelo> mk,  does it say nvidia or ati anywhere on there ?
[06:06] <cua0> Fezzler: it doesn't say something about creating an initd script?
[06:06] <sam_> dr_willis: i can only find installing ubuntu after haveing xp guides online
[06:06] <krimezz> pelo, with supergrub, would the windows boot loader still detect linux?
[06:06] <Fezzler> cua0: I'll look
[06:06] <mk> http://www.cancomputer.com/index.php?sku=3459
[06:06] <Allenwr> Hey people
[06:07] <Shadow147> mk is it a Intel or Intel-Mac board?
[06:07] <HardDisk> open_lad, there is another alternative, but this will require an internet connection, if you want to do a clone of what you have that's different, but if you just want to have identical applications there is a simple method
[06:07] <pvl1> thor: how do i make a virtual desktop?
[06:07] <mk> Shadow147, check the specs there
[06:07] <HardDisk> atarinox, to have other essential items installed other than flash, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:07] <Pelo> krimezz, no , supergrub only lets you restore the windows mbr ( in this instance) , you would need to add ubuntu to the windows bootloader menu, you would need to ask in ##windows on how to do that
[06:07] <Pelo> mk hold on , checking
[06:07] <nickrud> !brokenflash | atarinox
[06:07] <ubotu> atarinox: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:08] <Khisanth> pvl1: you want a virtual screen! man xorg.conf you can provide a Virtual option in your display section
[06:08] <open_lad> harddisk plz
[06:08] <Fezzler> cua0: nope
[06:08] <thor> pvl1 virtual screen I guess is the proper term. I have not done one in years...wouldn't know where to begin in ubuntu. And to be honest...like Khisanth says they are a real pain....not nearly as neat as they sound
[06:08] <open_lad> harddisk what is it?
[06:08] <Khisanth> pvl1: back up the file before changing it!
[06:08] <Shadow147> mk you have to get the 64 bit version
[06:08] <cua0> Fezzler: then i don't really know what to tell you
[06:08] <krimezz> pelo: thanks for the help.. ill try that route
[06:08] <Allenwr> quick question, I am installing ubuntu again and was wondering on any recommendations for partitions I should use
[06:08] <Allenwr> other then root and swap
[06:08] <rishabh> @ open_lad : You want to know what a harddisk is?
[06:08] <mk> Shadow147, you sure?
[06:08] <Fezzler> cua0: Thanks for trying.  I didn't realize you couldn't see the link or didn't have a clue
[06:09] <imyousuf> pelo the forums wer
[06:09] <HardDisk> open_lad, but like I said you will need an internet connection. IF you do have one, what you would do is on your pc type sudo dpkg --get-selections > /backup/installed-software.log  this will create a list of all your applications.
[06:09] <nickrud> Allenwr, around 12-15gb root, 2xram to 2gb max, the rest /home
[06:09] <Shadow147> mk AMD K8 Athlon 64 processor
[06:09] <pvl1> Khisanth, thor, ill look into it
[06:09] <Allenwr> mmk
[06:09] <imyousuf> pelo the forums were not that helpful :(
[06:09] <Allenwr> thank you
[06:09] <mk> my proc is amd athlon(tm) 64
[06:09] <Pelo> mk,  ok it looks to me like your mobo uses a ati video chipset,  you can,t install from the live cd in this case because of propriatary video drivers issues,  you'll need to use the alternate install cd and then install the proper video drivers
[06:09] <cua0> Fezzler: yea i can't click links and stuff, mostly running in cli
[06:09] <Fezzler> Anyone care to check this out and attempt a few questions?  http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/linux-serial.htm
[06:09] <HardDisk> open_lad, then take that list to the other computer, and type dpkg --set-selections < /backup/installed-software.log  this will import the list
[06:09] <mk> Pelo, well crap
[06:09] <Pelo> imyousuf, they aren'T always,  but they are a good place to go when in need anyway
[06:10] <Shadow147> pelo I have a Nvidia Card and I used the live cd
[06:10] <Pelo> mk,  you can also dl the dvd , you cna install in command line from that
[06:10] <open_lad> thanks hardDisk
[06:10] <HardDisk> open_lad, then type dselect afterwards
[06:10] <Pelo> Shadow147, some nvidia cards are supported but not all
[06:10] <Fezzler> Pelo:  How about it?
[06:10] <imyousuf> pelo, you are right about that because I installed the v4l2 driver from there :)
[06:10] <nickrud> imyousuf, the best place I've seen for smart answers (other than here :) is the ubuntu-users mail list
[06:10] <HardDisk> if its not installed then sudo apt-get install dselect
[06:10] <mk> Pelo, I'm not sure what you mean (that is, how I should install)
[06:10] <open_lad> ok
[06:10] <Pelo> Fezzler, if you can't be bothered to ask your queston in here, I can'T be bothered to go and open a link
[06:11] <kriel> i AccidentAlly set my 'A' key to A shortcut in AdvAnced desktop effects settings. now, if i use A cApitAl A, it still works, thus the messed up typing. However, I'd like to use my lowercAse A sometime, so I wAs wondering if Anyone knew of A wAy to unregister A shortcut? I've AlreAdy chAnged the shortcut in the menu, but for some reAson it hAsn't let me hAve my A key bAck...
[06:11] <imyousuf> nickrud will try there as well but as u pointed out tried here first :)
[06:11] <Shadow147> Pelo he can try to get the 64 bit verion
[06:11] <Shadow147> pelo AMD K8 Athlon 64 processor
[06:12] <krimezz> pelo do you have that supergrub cd link.. I didn't get it
[06:12] <HardDisk> google?
[06:12] <Fezzler> I need to create a link to a USB device after it is plugged in and recognized as ttyUSB0.  How do I do that in an init.d file and where does it go?
[06:12] <Pelo> mk,  go back to the www.ubuntu.com site, in the dl section,  select the cd as you did before and just below the download button,  check the alternate install cd box , that will get you a cd with a text based installer, you can then instal ubuntu without issues and after that you get the restricted driver for your video card
[06:12] <nickrud> kriel,  what shortcut did you give it?
[06:13] <Pelo> Shadow147, amd64 version is even worse with restricted drivers
[06:13] <mk> Shadow147, why do you say K8?
[06:13] <kriel> nickrud: just A. thus, the problem. it is still recognizing A As A shortcut for some reAson.
[06:13] <Pelo> krimezz, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:13] <Fezzler> Pelo:  sorry. learning
[06:13] <Allenwr> whats the off topic channel for ubuntu?
[06:13] <mk> Pelo, how would I get the driver?
[06:13] <portablejim> what it is called when Ubuntu does not write directly to the flash drive until it is unmounted?
[06:13] <nickrud> kriel, I mean what was the thing you set 'a' to ?
[06:13] <Shadow147> mk you can try the alternative cd iso but if it gives you problems then download the 64-bit version
[06:13] <HardDisk> !ot > Allenwr
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> mk: after install, user the restricted drivers tool
[06:13] <Pelo> Fezzler, don't apologise for learning but as you can see I'm a bit busy i donT' have the leasure to go an read ramdom links
[06:13] <Benalex> portablejim: async accesses
[06:14] <reportingsjr> thor: Sorry about that! Any clue what I should put for network?
[06:14] <Allenwr> thanks HardDisk
[06:14] <kriel> nickrud: oh. Uhm... ring switcher, next window (All workspAces)
[06:14] <Pelo> mk,  that will be easy enought,  they are provided throught a special manager after install, and in the last case , you can get instructions here on installing the binairy drivers for your card
[06:14] <mk> whose fault is this proprietary drivers bit?
[06:14] <thor> Fezzler the device will be mounted to a unique mount point in /media. Find that mount point and use it in your script
[06:14] <bazhang> mk: how did the md5 sum go?
[06:15] <portablejim> Benalex: thanks
[06:15] <Pelo> mk, ATI and Nvidia, but they are trying to comply
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mk: Manufacturers that wont release the source code
[06:15] <Fezzler> Pelo: I hear ya.  My sincere apology for breaching good manners
[06:15] <mk> bazhang, spot on
[06:15] <bazhang> mk: nice!
[06:15] <thor> reportingsjr I'm still trying to figure out where you see 'network'. It isn't part of the interfaces file
[06:15] <mk> Pelo, ah that's good :)
[06:15] <Shadow147> pelo thats why I will not go to a 64-bit processor mk you would have been better off with intel board they are mostly 32 bit other wise specify
[06:15] <HardDisk> didn't like the offtopic chan?
[06:16] <Allenwr> I am in both
[06:16] <mk> ok, will download the alternate text installer, burn, and turn on the drivers
[06:16] <HardDisk> mostly 32bit? uh huh
[06:16] <Fezzler> thor:  The author of this script suggests it can be adapted from ird to serial.  not sure how or what edits http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49523/
[06:16] <Allenwr> I know some linux stuff and figured I could help people as well
[06:16] <Allenwr> I just wanted suggestions
[06:16] <mk> thanks for the help all
[06:16] <HardDisk> so I suppose core2duo's and quads are figments of my imagination.
[06:16] <Shadow147> mk p
[06:16] <Shadow147> mk np*
[06:16] <Pelo> Shadow147, 64 bit processors are perfectly fine, but linux is stil a bit lacking in the 64 bit driver department
[06:16] <Pelo> mk best of luck
[06:16] <HardDisk> not if you count redhat.
[06:16]  * Dr_willis finds all the os's lacking in that area
[06:17] <HardDisk> which thrives on 64bit.
[06:17] <Pelo> mk, do not get the 64 bit , get the 386 one
[06:17] <nickrud> kriel, run gconf-editor, navigate the tree on the left to /apps/compiz/plugins/switcher/allscreens/options , you should find it in the panel on the right. When you do, right click it and select unset key
[06:17] <Allenwr> I have redhat fedora core 2 ^_^
[06:17] <HardDisk> you really can't say "linux is still a bit lacking in 64bit" rather than the distro itself.
[06:17] <Pelo> HardDisk, but redhat/novel is evil now
[06:17] <mk> Pelo, standard pers comp 7.10 is my choice
[06:17] <HardDisk> redhat evil? what universe are you living in :)
[06:17] <bazhang> redhat evil? nah
[06:18] <Shadow147> pelo thats the main reason I won's I won't get 64-bit processors there OS and program limitations are very small
[06:18] <Pelo> Shadow147, you can run 32 bit os and apps on a 64 bit machine
[06:18] <HardDisk> ^^ talking exactly like someone who knows nothing about 64bit.
[06:18]  * Khisanth hands Pelo a spare 'l' :P
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: It is nice to have you here helping but some of your converstaions/chat border on troll-dom
[06:18] <thor> Fezzler well...it isn't going to be a quick change. And I suspect you might also need to look at that referenced script 'cebox.sh'
[06:18] <Pelo> Shadow147, and you wonT' need to upgrade the hardware when the 64 bit os and apps get up to scratch
[06:19] <HardDisk> you can say what you like jack, I only state facts. and try to rectify what's right or wrong.
[06:19] <kriel> nickrud: problem: I've AlreAdy unset the shortcut. It still won't let me hAve my key bAck.
[06:19] <Shadow147> pelo I will stay with 32-bit if you don
[06:19] <mk> oh - is there any reason this cd iso will not burn to a dvd?
[06:19] <Shadow147> pelo don't mind
[06:19] <nickrud> kriel, in gconf-editor?
[06:19] <Pelo> Shadow147, I mind very little
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> It is late.. we can discuss it after the holiday
[06:19] <HardDisk> the troll-dom you speak off I can point to a couple of others, not you of course.
[06:20] <kriel> nickrud: gconf-editor shows thAt i've unset the key... it dosen't show the shortcut for 'A' Anymore.
[06:20] <ThePub> someone can't possibly quickly direct me to a reason why a bare installation of ubuntu with xorg installed ignores monitor/device settings for resolution and refresh rate?
[06:20] <sparr> question, regarding apt, preferences, policy, pinning, etc.  http://rafb.net/p/XgNDbx80.nln.html
[06:20] <suweid> Is there an off-topic ubuntu chan?
[06:20] <nickrud> kriel, bummer.
[06:20] <bazhang> mk: no worries there
[06:20] <Shadow147> mk yeah written differently
[06:20] <HardDisk> !ot > suweid
[06:20] <sparr> suweid: if its off topic, what makes it an ubuntu chan?
[06:20]  * Pelo schedules Jack_Sparrow for jan, 6 
[06:20] <suweid> sparr, I have no idea.
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: cya
[06:20] <thor> Fezzler you won't need lines 8-11
[06:20] <suweid> !ot
[06:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:20] <Pelo> sparr,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <kriel> nickrud: though, i suppose i could get used to hitting shift A lot... though, i'll hAve to explAin my strAnge cApitAlizAtion rules...
[06:20] <sparr> Pelo: sure, but whats ubuntu about it?
[06:20] <Pelo> suweid, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:21] <nickrud> kriel, have you restarted compiz (silly question maybe, but gotta start somewhere :)
[06:21] <thor> Fezzler line 12 I think is where you would mount the usb link. then you would probably need to edit that cebox.sh
[06:21] <suweid> Found it, thank you all.
[06:21] <mk> but it shouldn't cause any problems?
[06:21] <sparr> thats like asking for "generic [name brand here]"
[06:21] <jangari> i just installed gutsy on a new hard drive, then installed xp pro on a separate partition, but xp's master boot record wrote over the grub loader, any guides out there on restoring the grub to load linux, or at least give me the option?
[06:21] <kriel> nickrud: ... ... -cough- ... I'll... be right bAck.
[06:21] <Pelo> sparr, ubuntu/linux related converstation that is not neccesarly troubleshooting as we do in this channel
[06:21] <bazhang> sparr: join and see :}
[06:21] <Shadow147> mk I never burn cd isos with dvd media
[06:21] <mk> Shadow147, why not?
[06:21] <Fezzler> thor:  I'm trying to connect a WIn CE 2.11 device to Ubuntu via ppp http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/linux-serial.htm
[06:21] <sparr> bazhang: if i join im just going to ask the same troubleshooting question, and ruin your christmas, so no thanks
[06:21] <mk> can someone confirm that this is poor practice?
[06:22] <Pelo> mk,  if you want you can also get the dvd iso ,  all in one, both live and text install
[06:22] <Shadow147> mk what who know what problem may happen
[06:22] <bazhang> sparr: heh
[06:22] <Pelo> Shadow147, so you basicaly donT' have any idea ?
[06:22] <nickrud> !grub | jangari
[06:22] <ubotu> jangari: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:22] <sparr> jangari: boot any live cd or rescue floppy, run the grub installer from your boot/grub/menu.lst again
[06:22] <jangari> thanks nickrud
[06:22] <bazhang> mk: other than the obvious cost one, no difference
[06:22] <Pelo> mk, I've been told by other that you can burn the cd iso to a dvd and boot it with no problem , I have never tried it myself
[06:22] <mk> Pelo, is there actually a reason to worry about burning to dvd, aside from Shadow147's concern?
[06:23] <HardDisk> waste of space.
[06:23] <mk> thank you
[06:23] <Pelo> mk, read up
[06:23] <bazhang> mk: I have done it on several occasions no worries there
[06:23] <jangari> damn windows, no reason to make the linux installation inactive other than to make it difficult to run other operating systems
[06:23] <kriel> nickrud: at least it wasn't as bad as forgetting to plug it in... x.x; sorry for missing something so obvious. Thank you...
[06:23] <thor> Fezzler well, haven't worked with ppp in years, and never with wince....so I would be guessing
[06:23] <mk> Pelo, I'm not too concerned. I'm about 100% certain that there is in fact no problem. I've been doing it for a long time
[06:24] <bazhang> kriel: you have the small case a back?
[06:24] <nickrud> kriel, heh. I've stumbled over the most obvious so often, I have KISS stamped on the inside of my forehead now
[06:24] <mk> it's just that Shadow147 mentioned it and I wanted to confirm
[06:24] <kriel> bazhang: ye>a<h.
[06:24] <bazhang> kriel: hAhA
[06:24] <tomvolek_>  /set irc_conf_mode 1
[06:25] <kriel> nickrud: at least it's not as bad as the time i reinstalled my computer because my dad unplugged my network cable... -.- that was a bad day...
[06:25] <katyush-free> hi ,where do i get a list of mirrors from (for the repos)?
[06:25] <nickrud> rflol
[06:26] <Fezzler> thor: Guess away.  It's just fun.  cebox.sh just calls a cebox.chat
[06:26] <Pelo> katyush-free, you can select yoru location in menu > system > admin > software sources,  that will get you the mirror for your location
[06:26] <nickrud> katyush-free, system->admin->software sources , the tab with the source repo? select other, you can choose there
[06:27] <katyush-free> Pelo thanks ,is there a website that lists them?
[06:27] <Fezzler> thor: also the /dev/irnine need to be something else
[06:27] <Pelo> katyush-free, probabaly but I don'T knwow if,  lookup  repository mirrors in www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:27] <sunugg> how do I find out the command line behind the nautilus  right click on a file and it writes it to the cdrom?
[06:27] <bazhang> katyush-free: there is a great site that lets you choose the source you want-- see !easysource
[06:28] <katyush-free> !easysource
[06:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:28] <ThePub> x is starting in 1600x1200 resolution when it should be starting at 1280x1024 as it's setup in xorg.conf.  if I run xrandr after X starts up I can fix it, but how do I solve it w/o this since that isn't a solution?
[06:28] <jangari> "super grub disk" does that work? all I want to do is allow my ubuntu installation to be an option during boot, currently xp is the only option
[06:28] <Pelo> sunugg, you want to burn to cd from the command line ?
[06:29] <nickrud> ThePub, system->prefs->screen resolution, that should remember your choice
[06:29] <Pelo> jangari, you have a grub boot menu with only windows listed on it ?
[06:29] <katyush-free> thank you all...
[06:29] <mk> what will installing ubuntu do to my current xp install?
[06:29] <sunugg> Pelo: yes, because the default whatever it is to burn is too fast, the iso burnt is failing when installing afterwards
[06:29] <Fezzler> Ah, I guess I'll give up my chase for immediate gratiification and email the author
[06:29] <nickrud> mk, nothing
[06:29] <mk> ok
[06:29] <ThePub> nickrud: that's not a solution :)  I'm not using gnome.  xorg should startup to the resolution specified in the configuration file.
[06:29] <Fezzler> Merry Christmas all!
[06:29] <nickrud> mk, as long as you are careful with your partitioning
[06:29] <jangari> no, i had ubuntu installed and then installed xp on a separate partition, it made the linux installation 'inactive'
[06:29] <Pelo> sunugg, consider using gnomebaker instead , you can set the speed in there
[06:30] <mk> nickrud, I have a single partition
[06:30] <sunugg> Pelo thats another app i have to download?
[06:30] <jangari> which means uninstalling the grub boot menu
[06:30] <Shadow147> mk as long as u installed it onto a different partition or HD your fine
[06:30] <Pelo> jangari, you can erestore stage 1 grub with the supergrub cd and poin tit to the correct location for the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:30] <mk> Shadow147, I have a single partition
[06:30] <Pelo> sunugg, a smallish one
[06:30] <nickrud> ThePub, oh, true. But I haven't really looked into this new smarter than us X yet, so I tell people about that workaround :)
[06:30] <Pelo> sunugg, sudo apt-get intall gnomebaker
[06:30] <sunugg> Pelo: okay thanks for the tip
[06:31] <Pelo> Fezzler, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[06:31] <Shadow147> mk ok
[06:31] <open_la1> I used aptoncd but when i loaded the burned cd..... error says: reading packages Indexed... Error! E:cannot find filename or size tag.
[06:31] <open_la1> what could have possibly happen?
[06:31] <jangari> okay, pelo, thanks
[06:31]  * Pelo is loosing track of where he is 
[06:31] <Fezzler> Pelo: was responding to your.
[06:31] <nickrud> mk, be sure to defrag your disk first, and, as you should whenever you do major changes to your computer, back up your data
[06:31] <nickrud> Pelo, you're in canada somewhere, right?
[06:31] <mk> nickrud, alright, thanks
[06:32] <Shadow147> nickrud I keep all of my data on an external HD
[06:32] <drgeb> anyone know why one would see this in .xsessions-error file: "Checking for Xgl: gnome-session: Fatal IO error 104"
[06:32] <nickrud> Shadow147, wise, I use a laptop so I backup to it regularly
[06:32] <nickrud> s/it/external hd/
[06:33] <Khisanth> S3 is nice for backups :)
[06:33] <Shadow147> nickrud right
[06:33] <Pelo> drgeb, you have a ati card and need aixgl intead of xgl maybe ?
[06:33] <nickrud> Shadow147, I have two copies, how about you :)
[06:33] <drgeb> i have an nvidia card
[06:34]  * nickrud wishes he had an nvidia, although not so much now as before
[06:34] <Pelo> drgeb, save sort of issue I think
[06:34] <open_la1> I used aptoncd but when i loaded the burned cd..... error says: reading packages Indexes... Error! E:cannot find filename or size tag.
[06:35] <Shadow147> nickrud of linux?
[06:35] <nickrud> Shadow147, data
[06:35] <Pelo> drgeb, serioulsy I'm not an expert on this but you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion what kind of opengl you need with your nvidia card m that might be the problem
[06:36] <Shadow147> nickrud well I only have one External  HD but I may have copies and copies of data on it
[06:36] <drgeb> Pelo Thanks!!!
[06:36] <porch> hi
[06:36] <Pelo> lo
[06:38] <nickrud> Shadow147, the point of backups is to have them on different devices, so if one dies the other can be used. But we're getting off topic here a bit
[06:38] <jack-desktop> After I change my menus (System->Preferences->Main Menu) do I have to restart or anything?
[06:39] <nickrud> jack-desktop, no. I'm assuming you created a new launcher or something like that
[06:39] <jack-desktop> nickrud: actally I changed all my wine menus to start with "aoss"
[06:39] <jack-desktop> nickrud: and they haven't seem to change
[06:39] <Pelo> jack-desktop, no but in more recent version it occasionnaly takes a while for the edit to take effect ,  restarting gnome-panel should take care of it if you absolutely need to
[06:39] <nickrud> jack-desktop, no, that's fine. the changes were applied immediately.
[06:39] <Shadow147> nickrud I haven't had the money to get another one
[06:40] <meshuggahaddict> hello
[06:40] <nickrud> Shadow147, so keep one on the hard disk in the machine, and another on the external
[06:40] <jack-desktop> nickrud: apperently not because when i drag the thing to my panel, they're missing my additions
[06:40] <nickrud> Shadow147, as best you can, of course. All the vital stuff
[06:40] <nickrud> jack-desktop, that's a good test. Odd.
[06:40] <jack-desktop> pelo: how would I restart gnome panel: kill all gnome-panel & gnome-panel?
[06:40] <jed> ok... heres another one for you guys: my mouse keeps going to the center of the screen on its own. eg, i start in xchat, alt tab to firefox, alt tab back to xchat, and the mouse moves back to the center of the screen... any idea how to turn that off?
[06:40] <Shadow147> yeah I keep my important stuff on my External HD
[06:41] <meshuggahaddict> i can't get flash video to work in firefox on gusty
[06:41] <nickrud> jack-desktop, just killing it will do, it respawns automatically
[06:41] <Pelo> jack-desktop, alt_f2 xkill and then click the pannel,  they will restart automacitaly
[06:41] <kikr> anyone know of a good alarm program other then kalarm?
[06:41] <haymaker> meshuggahaddict, how did you install flash?
[06:41] <Pelo> kikr, search for alarm in add/remove
[06:41] <kikr> all that came up was kalarm
[06:41] <Pelo> meshuggahaddict, there is a bug wit the installer for flash atm
[06:41] <meshuggahaddict> well i tried letting the browser take care of it by clicking the icon that said it was needed
[06:41] <jack-desktop> weird, a little panel for my Steam icon popped off
[06:42] <jack-desktop> is that usual?
[06:42] <Pelo> kikr, that maybe the only one available atm
[06:42] <nickrud> jack-desktop, your edits should be kept in ~/.local/share/applications , see if you're getting any new desktop files there
[06:42] <meshuggahaddict> it said it was using a nonfree type
[06:42] <Pelo> jack-desktop,  are you running steam on wine ?
[06:42] <jack-desktop> pelo: yes
[06:42] <meshuggahaddict> i thought so
[06:42] <Pelo> meshuggahaddict, flash is non free
[06:43] <IcemanV9> wicked cool! :) 1st time using pidgin as irc client. not bad at all.
[06:43] <meshuggahaddict> it acts like it will install it but dosn't
[06:43] <Pelo> jack-desktop,  close steam wait a bit and restart it , that's a bit of a small bug to do with how wind manages stuff in the notivication area
[06:43] <haymaker> meshuggahaddict, i had the same problem, i installed it from the sources and it didnt work.  so then i installed it from the binary on the adobe website and that worked
[06:43] <meshuggahaddict> binary huh?
[06:43] <Pelo> meshuggahaddict, there is a bug in the intaller , you can install flash by getting the tar.gz file form the adobe website and follow the instructons inside
[06:43]  * Khisanth is using that as well
[06:44] <meshuggahaddict> cool thanks
[06:44] <haymaker> meshuggahaddict, just go download the .tar.gz file from adobe and extract it somewhere, then run that install_flash file
[06:44] <meshuggahaddict> cool thanks
[06:44]  * Pelo still has 1h16 min before he can go to bed and his typing is already getting sloppy beyond reason, it's not gonna be pretty folks 
[06:45] <Pelo> damn it's 2h15 I can'T even count right anymore
[06:45] <jack-desktop> thanks pelo and nickrud.
[06:45] <nickrud> but it's one minute less
[06:45]  * Pelo is so screwed 
[06:46] <jack-desktop> does anyone know how to get wine to always run in aoss?
[06:46] <haymaker> wait steam what?
[06:46] <IcemanV9> meshuggahaddict: I just installed flash manually ... it was very easy.
[06:46] <nickrud> jack-desktop, when you restarted the panel, did you get your launchers right?
[06:46] <Pelo> jack-desktop, what is aoss ?
[06:47] <jack-desktop> nickrud: no, but i edited them in the folder you sent me to
[06:47] <jack-desktop> pelo: someone else told me is was like an alas oss wrapper or something, i have no clue
[06:47] <jack-desktop> pelo: i just know that it makes sound work on wine for me
[06:47] <nickrud> Pelo, a wrapper for that tricks apps that write to oss devices into writing to alsa devices, so they can mix sounds properly
[06:47] <Pelo> jack-desktop, why are you tring to use it then ?
[06:47] <lucian_> hi i just inserted an sd card but it didn't automount. how do i find out what device i need to mount? (I did fdisk -l and it didn't show the sd card)
[06:47] <Pelo> ok I'll but out of this one
[06:48] <jack-desktop> pelo: because only thing that has gotten my sound to work
[06:48] <Pelo> lucian_,  look in my computer
[06:48] <nickrud> Pelo, no, I know nothing about wine, if you can make his sound mix properly (I do remember something about a switch in winecfg though)
[06:48] <Pelo> jack-desktop,  yeah, I got that bit afterwards, I just donT' know anyting about it ,  maybe they would know in #winehq
[06:48] <lucian_> Pelo: its not mounted there either
[06:48] <jack-desktop> k, thanks again for the help
[06:50] <Pelo> lucian_, I beleive thre is a trick regarding sd cards they don' t mount automaticaly like usb drives but more like floppies,  you need to do someting after you put them in ,  try looking up "sd card" in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org  I'M sure it is covered
[06:50] <lucian_> k thnx
[06:50] <Evolution2> hey guys I was wondering why a white line keeps showing up when I activate the "MiMenu" applet in AWN. am I missing a dependency?
[06:51] <Pelo> Evolution2, probably a little bug,  awn is snv or something, ie still in developpement,
[06:51] <nickrud> Evolution2, I see that with several things, like the notification area if I have the notification area in the panel active. It's only .2 software, barely out of alpha
[06:51] <Pelo> Evolution2, are you also running compiz ? turn it off
[06:52] <nickrud> Pelo, it requires compiz :)
[06:52]  * nickrud waves a watch, and says "you're getting sleepy"
[06:52] <Pelo> nickrud, avant requires compiz ? ar eyou sure ?
[06:52]  * Pelo was getting sleepy before the watch 
[06:53]  * Pelo hates his boss
[06:53] <Evolution2> ok thanks
[06:53] <codo> flash doesnt work on firefox ?
[06:53] <nickrud> Pelo, I asume so, it says on the webpage "dock-like bar which sits at the bottom of the screen (in all its composited-goodness) "
[06:53] <codo> with ubuntu 7.10 ?
[06:53] <codo> gnash and adobe ones dont work for me
[06:53] <codo> :(
[06:54] <Pelo> codo, problem with the installer,  get the tar.gz from the adobe website
[06:54] <codo> oh ok
[06:54] <nickrud> !brokenflash | codo
[06:54] <ubotu> codo: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:54] <thai> หวัดดีครับ
[06:54] <kyu_flux> codo: amd64?
[06:54] <Pelo> thai, ?
[06:55] <cafuego> just change the md5sums in the .postinst file.
[06:55]  * Pelo wonders if that was hebrew
[06:55] <thai> thailand
[06:55] <cafuego> Pelo: No, thai.
[06:56] <nickrud> lol, so why are we still waiting? Who cares about konqueror, any way
[06:56]  * Pelo thnks nickrud is now replying to questions that have yet to be asked 
[06:57] <cafuego> Re flash, edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
[06:57] <nickrud> should be a factoid, that md5sum
[06:57] <codo> so i need to get the tar.gz ?
[06:57] <cafuego> Change the md5sum for the tarball to 93b7c48eaa492237b807a3ae1de65cf9, the .so to 13ce705df5d47422a9192b29827544e8 and comment out the .xpt lines.
[06:58] <Pelo> codo,  that's what I said earlier
[06:58] <cafuego> codo: No, just edit that file, via sudo nano or sudo vi.
[06:58] <kaleh> ubotu: flash
[06:58] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:58] <codo> kyu_flux: amd64 computer using 32 bit ubuntu :P
[06:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:58] <Missy18> can someone help me setup serial modem .. i cannot get it to work with 7.10
[06:58] <bazhang> !md5
[06:58] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:58] <Pelo> codo, ge the flash .tar.gz file from the adobe site
[06:58] <cafuego> line #77
[06:59] <nickrud> Merry Christmas cafuego
[06:59] <Pelo> cafuego, he is not running a 64 bit os
[06:59] <cafuego> Pelo: So?
[06:59] <Pelo> nvm
[06:59] <cafuego> Pelo: The installer downloads the tarball, the postinst checks the download file. Edit the postinst, it magically works.
[07:00] <haymaker> so anyone want to talk about upgrades?
[07:00] <kyu_flux> codo: oh, sorry. I had a problem with flash on amd64. looks like the other guys know more about it than me. //
[07:00] <Pelo> haymaker,  just state your issue
[07:00]  * cafuego isn't sure why that wasn't "officially" done about 2 seconds after adobe changed the download.
[07:01] <nickrud> something about konqueror having issues, as I read the bug report
[07:01] <cafuego> nickrud: That's no worse than it not working at all.
[07:01] <haymaker> Pelo, i dont particularly have an issue, but i'd be interested to read the upgrade proceedure to try and understand some of the issues i had going from feisty to gutsy
[07:01] <lwizardl> hi
[07:01] <nickrud> cafuego, as i said a while back, who cares about konqueror. And it should be a factoid
[07:02] <Pelo> !upgrade > haymaker check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[07:02] <cafuego> :-)
[07:02] <Pelo> those are the proceedures available,
[07:02] <codo> cafuego: line number 79 right ?
[07:03] <cafuego> codo: My file is alreadu edited, so it probably doesn't quite match.
[07:03] <cafuego> codo: 93b7c48eaa492237b807a3ae1de65cf9 is the new checksum for install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[07:03] <lwizardl> anyone use a digiwave 103g card?
[07:03] <Pelo> haymaker,  as far as I know, the upgrade managers basicaly replaces the repos and then updates ubuntu-desktop , in order for this to work properly , you must disable any 3rd party repos and you must have all the default apps installed,
[07:03] <cafuego> codo: 13ce705df5d47422a9192b29827544e8 the new one for install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so
[07:04] <codo> so which of these I need to use ?
[07:04] <codo> :)
[07:04] <ma> Been trying to search the forums for a decent tutorials on changing desktop graphics but have yet to find one. Any suggestions?
[07:04] <cafuego> codo: The last 2 you can put a # in frontof, the new installer does not include that file anymore.
[07:04] <cafuego> codo: You need to edit all 3.
[07:04] <codo> ok :)
[07:04] <cafuego> codo: Change the first 2, comment out the third one.
[07:04] <codo> ok
[07:04] <bazhang> ma: gnome-look.org
[07:04] <Pelo> ma wat do you mean by desktop graphics ?
[07:04] <codo> so i comment out xpt ?
[07:04] <codo> right ?
[07:04] <cafuego> codo: yup
[07:04] <codo> awesomeness
[07:04] <Pelo> !theme > masse
[07:04] <masse> Just the appearance of the windows and icons and desk wallpaper
[07:04] <cafuego> Then run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:05] <masse> Pelo: Themes yes
[07:05] <Pelo> !theme > masse check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[07:05] <masse> !theme
[07:05] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:05] <cafuego> codo: ... and the installer should run the new .postinst, which will now succeed.
[07:05] <masse> Pelo: Thank you
[07:05] <haymaker> Pelo, i did have a working system after the upgrade, but my profile was screwed up and i ended up wiping and installing fresh.  7.04 was the first time i found linux to be a viable alternative to windows, so i made some big mistakes and i dont regret having to reinstall, but with 8.04 only months away, i dont want to do it for every release
[07:05] <jack-desktop> another question: how can i find the temperature of my processor?
[07:06] <nickrud> cafuego, yes, lines 79 is the tar, 84 is the so, and 86 is the xpt in an unedited file
[07:06] <cafuego> nickrud: cool, thx
[07:06] <masse> In Ubuntu are we running the KDE or Gnome?
[07:06] <bazhang> gnome
[07:06] <haymaker> masse, ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde
[07:06] <vinicius> hi, im having some issues trying to install firefox extensions, i think it´s due to a download to a secure server, because I cant download the XPI package with wget as well... how can i handle this?
[07:06] <cafuego> jack-desktop: Install `lm-sensors' and run 'sensors-detect' as root.
[07:06] <masse> Thanks alot everyone for the assistance
[07:06] <kaleh> masse: u can install kde in Ubuntu also
[07:07] <viper233> jack-desktop: apt-get install lm-sensors, sensors-detect , sensors . all as root
[07:07] <IcemanV9> jack-desktop: in termainal, type acpi -t
[07:07] <nickrud> cafuego, x64 if it matters though
[07:07] <Masse> kaleh: I honestly don't see a difference between the two. Must be my inexperience but I don't see it. What is it?
[07:07] <jack-desktop> lm-sensors
[07:07] <Pelo> haymaker, if you are getting more familiar with ubuntu and linux in general , I recommend you make a seperate partition for yoru /home folder,  that way youcan reinstall the os without having to worry about formating the partiton,  your data and settnigs will be safe,  you just use the manual partitionning to specify the location of the partition when you clean install.
[07:07] <jack-desktop> No support for device type: thermal
[07:07] <cafuego> nickrud: pretty sure it'd be the same file.
[07:07] <viper233> I use gkrellm to monitor things live.. look pretty :)
[07:08]  * cafuego has more eating to do
[07:08] <cafuego> coz i can still walk...
[07:08] <Taggard> Hey
[07:08] <Pelo> haymaker,  I don't mean that you should cleain install instead of upgrading , but it makes upgrading a less scary option,  also I prefer upgrading from the alt-install cd or the dvd,  it takes less time for the process it self the doing it online
[07:08] <haymaker> Pelo, i have figured that out since i installed 7.10, is there a way for me to go back and do that after the fact?
[07:09] <Pelo> haymaker,  yes, easyly enough
[07:09] <viper233> If you have a dell laptop install the dell package i8kutils .. lets you see the temperature and set the fans speed
[07:09] <Taggard> I just got a Dell with Ubuntu on for christmas with a 19" Dell monitor which SHOULD be running at 1440x900 yet it will only run at 1024x768. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:09] <meshuggahaddict> alright cool that worked for the flash
[07:09] <vinicius> anybody have some ideia of whats happening with my problem that makes me unable to download https files?
[07:10] <jack-desktop> thanks cafuego and viper233
[07:10] <haymaker> vinicius, is your system time set correctly?
[07:10] <vinicius> Ter Dez 25 20:10:40 NZDT 2007
[07:10] <vinicius> yes
[07:11] <viper233> Taggard : shutdown X, go to a virtual terminal alt-ctrl-F1, /etc/init.d/gdm stop, dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and select the correct resolution.
[07:11] <Taggard> viper233, I will try this now, thanks
[07:11] <vinicius> haymaker: a good shot, but its ok..
[07:11] <Taggard> viper233, How do I shutdown X?
[07:11] <Pelo> haymaker,  you boot the livecd,  I recommend the 7.04 one cause gparted is a bit buggy in 7.10,  just resize your ubuntu partiton ( / ) , as much as you can, make the free space and ext3 partiton and copy the /home folder to it ,  then edit /etc/fstab and make a new line for it so that ubuntu know that /dev/sda?  gets mounted to /home, test it and it it works,  boot baqck the live cd and remvoe the deta from your original /home , no need to w
[07:11] <Pelo> aite the space
[07:11] <haymaker> vinicius, my only guess
[07:11] <Taggard> I only know how to restart it
[07:11] <vinicius> Taggard: CTRL + ALT + backspace :)
[07:11] <Taggard> Ah, thanks
[07:12] <haymaker> Pelo, what if i was just going to add another physical disk?
[07:12] <vinicius> haymaker: ok, good, thanks...
[07:12] <viper233> Taggard : the first part /etc/init.d/gdm ... You might just want to try switching terminals first if you haven't done that before. Hold down Alt-CTRL then press F1, then press F7 to get back to X
[07:12] <Pelo> haymaker, same idea,  the partiton for /home will just be on a seperate hdd as well
[07:13] <viper233> We lost him...
[07:13] <haymaker> Pelo, same scenario, just label the partition as /home
[07:13] <Pelo> haymaker, your not in windows anymore, it doesn'T realy matter on what hdd a partition is
[07:13] <Delvien>  MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!
[07:13] <haymaker> Pelo, tell me about it
[07:13] <Pelo> haymaker, you don,t need to label the partition you need to specify the mount point in fstab
[07:14] <haymaker> pelo ok.  should i use the user mount option?
[07:15] <Pelo> haymaker, on my own comp I have two hdd,   hdd1 has  10 gig for ubuntu, 2 gig for swap , 64 gig for /home,  hdd2 has 10 gig for windows xp , and 64 gig for a download partion mounted in /home/jean/download , so it basicaly just looks like another folddr
[07:15] <viper233> Pelo : What's your aim?
[07:15] <nickrud> dang Pelo you're starving your windows
[07:15] <haymaker> pelo i have a similar setup, but i have 4 hard disks already
[07:15] <Pelo> viper233, I loath instant msger apps
[07:16] <nickrud> haymaker, with that many, it's probably wise for you to read up on lvm (logical volume management)
[07:16] <haymaker> Pelo, one problem i have is that my bios and grub address the disks in one order, and ubuntu sees them in a different order
[07:16] <Pelo> haymaker,  this is my fstab line for the home folder  /dev/sdb3 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
[07:16] <viper233> Pelo : aim?? what's your point?? what is your out come ?? hehehe
[07:16] <Pelo> haymaker, again , not realy an issue
[07:17] <Taggard> viper233, Thanks, that worked, but now my keyboard mapping is messed up
[07:17] <nickrud> haymaker, use the uuid's to identify the partitions , ls /dev/disks/by-uuid
[07:17] <haymaker> Pelo, it is only an issue when i get a kernel update and it overwrites my menu.lst file
[07:17] <nickrud> haymaker, or the labels, that way you don't have to worry about device name shifts
[07:18] <Pelo> haymaker, I get that too,  you jsut hit e for edit in the grub menu and correct the root line,  I have to do that everytime as well
[07:18] <Pelo> it is a bit annoying
[07:18] <haymaker> Pelo, nickrud then i just have to change it back i know, but its pesky
[07:19] <Evolution2>  hey guys I was wondering why a white line keeps showing up when I activate the "MiMenu" applet in AWN. am I missing a dependency?
[07:19] <viper233> Taggard : it might have changed your keyboard mapping during the process. What language keyboard do you have??? English I'm assuming. You will need to set it to something like pc105.. go through the same process as before
[07:19] <nickrud> haymaker, yeah, the libata shift is a pain, but I see the rationale. It is still 'pesky' (good word :)
[07:19] <Taggard> viper233, It didn't ask me anything, just did ity
[07:19] <Pelo> haymaker, grub generaly assumes that windows will be on the boot hdd and ubuntu on the second one,  but I prefer to have stage one and 2 on the same hdd, that way I can remove either hdd and hte othe will still boot,  if grub is split neither hdd will boot on it's own
[07:19] <nickrud> Evolution2, bug?  The guys in #awn probably have a real answer though
[07:20] <AmbienNOD>  i currently have a computer with two hard drives the first drive has windows and the second im goingto install linux, im going to install the boot loader on the first drive of the mbr, i was just wondering, if right after the installation i will be able to boot windows, or do i need to configure the menu file?
[07:20] <haymaker> Pelo, grub should see the light as i have
[07:20] <AmbienNOD>  also if this would be the correct action to take being my current setup
[07:20] <Pelo> haymaker, I think the same but what can you do other then complian ?
[07:21]  * Pelo does that extensively
[07:21] <nickrud> AmbienNOD, if you do the linux install second, grub should pick up the windows without having to edit anything
[07:21] <viper233> Taggard : well, you can just change the X configuration file manually. First backup your current file. From a terminal, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[07:21] <AmbienNOD> awsome thanx
[07:21] <AmbienNOD> ill let you know cause its installing now
[07:21] <Pelo> AmbienNOD, you are comming it at theright moment
[07:21] <haymaker> Pelo, nickrud is it not advisable to edit the /boot/grub/device.map file to change it so that my sata disk is hd0?
[07:21] <AmbienNOD> i know i just saw
[07:22] <haymaker> Pelo, nickrud i haven't done it because i'm a chicken
[07:22] <nickrud> haymaker, I'm not that conversant with grub, I knew lilo well but with ubuntu & grub I've only scratched the surface
[07:22] <Pelo> AmbienNOD, I highly recomment you chnag the boot order of yoru hdd before you intall ubuntu so that grub is installed on just the ubuntu hdd, windows will still be listed
[07:22] <viper233> don't you just install grub to the mbr that you want?? grub-installl /dev/sda
[07:22] <Pelo> haymaker, just add a pair of map lines in the correct menu.lst entry
[07:22] <haymaker> nickrud, i had lilo all the other times i tried linux, it was ok but grub seems better to me
[07:23] <viper233> need to have the partition bootable
[07:23] <nickrud> haymaker, yes, it's much more versatile. Also much more complex because of it
[07:23] <haymaker> Pelo, that is what i do now, but i wish i didnt have to every time i get a kernel update
[07:23] <tofaffy> I installed webmin on two pc's behind my router, if I wanted to access the seperate webmin's like either fort he jared-desktop or the jared-laptop how would I specify that in the url?
[07:23] <AmbienNOD> so your saying to but the boot loader on my second hard drive or the mbr, (the drivbe with linux on it?
[07:24] <Pelo> haymaker, for the window entry ? just put that one after the debain menu listing bit
[07:24] <haymaker> does anyone know of a project that will do visio type work with flowcharting, diagraming etc?
[07:24] <Taggard> viper233, Thanks :)
[07:24] <AmbienNOD> what i meant is your suggesting to put grub on the second hard drives mbr, instead of the windows drive?
[07:24] <thor> tofaffy you could use port forwarding...pick two not used ports and forward one to the webmin port on one computer, forward the other to the webmin port on the other computer
[07:24] <viper233> tofaffy : forward from different ports on the on the router
[07:24] <pvl1> can anyone help me make a virtual desktop
[07:24] <tofaffy> thor, viper233...ehh I know what port fowarding is...but I'm not quiet sure I get what you're saying
[07:25] <Pelo> AmbienNOD, ,  grub comes in two parts , stage one installs on the mbr of the boot hdd ( in the bios) , stage two isnalld in the ubuntu partition,   if they are split on two hdd,  you will always need both hdd to boot the comp , if you remove either the comp will not boot
[07:25] <tofaffy> How can I change the port for each one?
[07:25] <pvl1> thor: hey i tried messing wif xorg, changed some screen resolutions, but i cant use them
[07:25] <viper233> Taggard : You are using a english keyboard? look for Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105" and set it to pc105 and layout us
[07:25] <Pelo> AmbienNOD, if you have windows on one hdd and ubuntu on another,  put grub on the ubuntu hdd,  that way you can remove that hdd and still boot windows on it's own
[07:26] <thor> tofaffy (example) forward port 12345 to the webmin port on your laptop, then from outside you would use the url (ipaddress:12345) where ip address is the ip of your wifi router
[07:26] <thor> tofaffy the external ip address
[07:26]  * Pelo is not gonna make it 
[07:26] <Taggard> Vinno, Yeah, I know
[07:26] <LaserLine> Anyone know how to change the notification daemon theme in 7.10 ... I never liked how ubuntu changed it from the defalt gnome theme
[07:26] <Taggard> viper233, Yeah, I know. I was saying thank you
[07:26]  * haymaker gives Pelo some Nodoze
[07:26] <nickrud> Pelo, I see where you're going with this, I'll remember. thanks
[07:27] <thor> pvl1 I haven't done virtual screen in years...only did it once and didn't like it...so wouldn't know where to begin now with ubuntu
[07:27] <nickrud> Pelo, hey, what's an extra hour of sleep gonna hurt
[07:27] <Pelo> nickrud, weren't you in my little private channel a while back when I was explaining this little bit ?
[07:27] <pvl1> thor: oh, thanks m8
[07:27] <haymaker> i've got to drive 900 miles tomorrow
[07:27] <nickrud> Pelo, no, I wish I had been
[07:27] <haymaker> yay!
[07:27] <Pelo> nickrud, I won't get an extra hour, I'll wake up a couple of hours too early,
[07:27] <viper233> tofaffy : You have jared-server(192.168.1.21) and jared-desktop(192.168.1.22) both running webmin on port 10000. Have your (assuming)modem forward port 10001 to 192.168.1.21:10000 and 10002 to 192.168.1.22:10000
[07:27] <olskolirc> I can't mount /dev/sda1 to /media/DISK3 because it says sda1 does not exist.  what do I do now?
[07:28] <haymaker> does anyone have a latitude d420 by chance?
[07:28]  * nickrud might just hate pelo's boss too
[07:28] <haymaker> i've got this evdo broadband card and i'm wondering what it will take to make it dance
[07:28] <nickrud> anyway, I can go to bed, and am. Night all
[07:28] <viper233> Taggard : No worries.. if you don't have a "us" keyboard those settings will screw things up :)
[07:28] <jangari> anyone knwo about error 17: cannot mount selected volume
[07:28] <jangari> ( i think it was volume)
[07:29] <haymaker> jangari, is that a grub error?
[07:29] <jangari> yep
[07:29] <jangari> just tried to fix the grub with that grud fixing CD,
[07:29] <jangari> grub*
[07:29] <haymaker> jangari, old computer with a new hard drive?
[07:29] <viper233> olskolirc : does /dev/sda1 even exist ? what type/format of partition is it?
[07:29] <SuperQ> haymaker: there are some good docs on evdo cards in the ubuntu wiki
[07:29] <jangari> not that old
[07:30] <jangari> but new hdd yes
[07:30] <haymaker> SuperQ, cool, i'll check them out
[07:30] <SuperQ> haymaker: I have gotten a couple to work before, mostly pppd setups
[07:30] <haymaker> jangari, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[07:30] <haymaker> jangari, pretty much you have to make the boot partition on the disk <8gb
[07:30] <SuperQ> haymaker: kinda a pain in the ass, but I've got a Cingular HSDPA one working these days
[07:30] <viper233> haymaker : Why??
[07:30] <lonejack> does somebody use zend studio?
[07:30] <SuperQ> haymaker: works really well, about 1mbit, and 120-150ms pings
[07:31] <viper233> haymaker : Why?? >8GB ??
[07:31] <Taggard> Does anyone know a good (easy to follow) guide for networking Windows and Ubuntu (specifically Vista and 7.1)
[07:31] <haymaker> jangari, viper233 its something with the lba business and old bios
[07:31] <jangari> right
[07:31] <jangari> all i want is the grub to boot ubuntu by default or xp pro if i want,
[07:32] <friendlysys> anyone know an alternative to nc_ftp client, for recursive directories file uploading?  the other server does not have sftp nor ssh access =(
[07:32] <jangari> should i perhaps have installed xp first?
[07:32] <SuperQ> friendlysys: lftp
[07:32] <soldats> !dualboot
[07:32] <viper233> haymaker : How old is the bios? what motherboard? LX440?? (my old PII)
[07:32] <nanobug> hi everyone
[07:32] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:32] <Pelo> jangari, yes but we can help you make an entry for xp if you have installed ubuntu first and have already installed xp on top
[07:32] <SuperQ> nanobug: ahoy!
[07:32] <viper233> Grub hasn't had the >8GB issue for a long time....
[07:32] <nanobug> merry christmas and happy holidays to the heathans ;P
[07:33] <SuperQ> lol
[07:33] <haymaker> viper233, i had helped a guy with an old dell precision box, he had a 300 g disk in it he just bought
[07:33] <ogre> happy ubuntu day
[07:33] <jangari> i originally had ubuntu installed and installed xp on top, yes
[07:33] <nanobug> thats jokes folks dont get crazy on me
[07:33] <viper233> nanobug : Happy Yule to you!!
[07:33] <jangari> but then of course, only xp would boot
[07:33] <jangari> forcing me to try this super grub fixer cd
[07:33] <Pelo> jangari, but is ubuntu still installed on your system ?
[07:33] <nanobug> and to you
[07:33] <korosora> hey guys, how do i part a partition of a totally ubuntu drive to accomidate another OS?
[07:34] <jangari> yes, and i moved the grub to (hd0), and the grub runs instead of MBR, but it returns error 17
[07:34] <SuperQ> nanobug: http://www.festivuspoles.com/
[07:34] <Pelo> korosora, boot the live cd and use gparted to rezise the ubuntu partiton
[07:34] <viper233> haymaker : old is a bit vague... Chipset helps.. most PIII should be able to boot past the 8GB limit, more depends on the kernel/grub
[07:34] <Pelo> jangari, when trying to boot wich os ?
[07:34] <jangari> ubuntu
[07:35] <korosora> pelo : thanks
[07:35] <jangari> i haven't edited the menu.lst yet
[07:35] <nanobug> SuperQ: that pole is full of awesome and festivusness
[07:35] <haymaker> viper233, i was helping him from remote, not sure how old but i'd bet p2 or early p3
[07:35] <nanobug> i am impressed.
[07:35] <Pelo> jangari, ok ,do you know the /dev/sda* of the ubuntu partiton ?
[07:35] <viper233> jangari : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945   seen this?
[07:35] <jangari> do i know it? i guess so, then there's /dev/sda0, /dev/sda1 and so on, yeah?
[07:36] <jangari> yeah viper, checking that now
[07:36] <Pelo> jangari, but I need to knwo the one for ubuntu
[07:36] <nanobug> im in the process of building up a ubuntu install from the mini cd
[07:36] <nanobug> straight cli bizness
[07:36] <orbisvicis> i have this ssh issue. it goes like this:
[07:36] <nanobug> fun times
[07:36] <orbisvicis> (remote) debug1: matching key found...
[07:36] <viper233> grub got pretty good error messages
[07:36] <orbisvicis> (remote) debug1: restore_uid: 0/0
[07:36] <jangari> sd4 i believe
[07:36] <orbisvicis> (remote) debug1: do_cleanup
[07:36] <orbisvicis> (local)  Permission denied (publickey).
[07:36] <ramvi> You know when you go to Sound and choose what channels you want to change the volume of with your hotkeys? How can I set that option with a command?
[07:36] <jangari> sda4*
[07:36] <vinicius> any of you know how to change the gnome main menu icon?
[07:37] <mario> Hi everyone. Merry Christmas by the way. I have a problem with my n64 emulator. I get to see the main menu of the game (namely, Mario Kart 64). But when the first images are being loaded my graphics get freezed and I can't do anything but restarting. Help, please!
[07:37] <orbisvicis> between 7.10 server & 7.04 amd64
[07:37] <orbisvicis> the only thing i havent checked is the old keyboard
[07:37] <jangari> heh, i'll need some emulators soon, my mate's selling me an old arcade game coffee table,
[07:37] <bazhang> mario: zsnes?
[07:37] <nanobug> i forgot how much i love the console though.  especially now that i've got the framebuffer configured w/ a font that isn't entirely offensive
[07:38] <bazhang> mario: or mupen?
[07:38] <Pelo> jangari, ok  when you get to the grub menu,   select the entry for ubuntu , the hit E for edit , select the root line and type E again, change the line to  root (hd0,3)   and hit enter,  then hit B to boot ,  that should boot ubuntu, if it worked, go and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make that change permanent, then come back here and we will tell you how to add windows to the grub menu
[07:38] <mario> bazhang, no it's called mupen 64. but I think is something with the graphics because i had the same problem with other games
[07:38] <mario> bazhang, could you help me, please?
[07:38] <jangari> far out
[07:38] <bazhang> mario: yeah, mupen is a big problem--not really an ubuntu issue though
[07:39] <jangari> is this in grub in a terminal from the livecd?
[07:39] <Pelo> jangari, when you boot normaly
[07:39] <jangari> oh i see
[07:39] <jangari> ok hang on
[07:39] <mario> bazhang, what do you mean? this is not the correct place to talk about it?
[07:40] <bazhang> mario: you downloaded it and installed it from an outside source, correct? not from the ubuntu repos, right?
[07:41] <jangari> hey pelo, that seemed to have worked,
[07:41] <jangari> but that change isn't permanent until i change the menu.lst?
[07:41] <ramvi> Can I set this option though shell? In "Sound", where you choose what channels you want to change the volume of with your hotkeys.
[07:41] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugames.org/mupen64 mario; post a message there if you wish
[07:41] <Pelo> jangari, now go and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the edit for all the ubuntu entries,  ubuntu, the recovery mode and the memtest
[07:41] <mario> bazhang, that's right. But the emulator runs the game until the screen goes black. This had happen to me with other games (planet penguin racer)
[07:41] <jangari> okay
[07:42] <orbisvicis> ok, its not a keyboard issue? Any ideas about the ssh thing?
[07:42] <mario> bazhang, so I guess is something related to my graphics
[07:42] <ogre> how can i see whats going wrong with my flash? I have gnash and adobe installer and videos from places like youtube  never line up correctly with no working stop or moving the ideo forward or backward  and some sites is just a black box
[07:43] <bazhang> mario: not really, tons of issues with mupen 64 iirc
[07:43] <friendlysys> lftp not working for me
[07:43] <friendlysys> it says making data connection
[07:43] <friendlysys> when i type ls
[07:43] <friendlysys> doesnt do shit
[07:43] <mario> bazhang, thanks anyway
[07:43] <IcemanV9> !brokenflash | ogre
[07:43] <ubotu> ogre: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:44] <ramvi> I'm developing a script for asus eee to make it work with ubuntu. I need set this option though shell: In "Sound", where you choose what channels you want to change the volume of with your hotkeys. Anyone?
[07:45]  * IcemanV9 is gone to the bed (battery is 4% discharging as well)
[07:45] <bazhang> http://www.emutalk.net/forumdisplay.php?f=50 mario
[07:45] <Pelo> ramvi, #ubuntu-dev
[07:47] <ramvi> They told me to ask here
[07:47] <bazhang> haha
[07:47] <orbisvicis> lol
[07:47] <mario> bazhang, thanks for the searching
[07:47] <korosora> i love you guys.
[07:47] <lwizardl> any dvb users
[07:47] <lwizardl> ?
[07:47] <tigran> When editing a file and saving, does ubuntu (or gedit) save a backup as ~filename?
[07:47] <Pelo> ramvi, you're out of luck then, you might want to try at different times of day,  different crowds
[07:47] <korosora> merry christmas for those who celebrate it
[07:47]  * Pelo takes the beer away from korosora 
[07:47] <Missy18> I have a serial modem attached to my pc but ubuntu says no device found, can someone help me please
[07:47] <orbisvicis> filename~
[07:47] <korosora> happy tuesday for those who dont
[07:48] <tigran> thanks orb
[07:48] <bazhang> go to ubuntu other channel not here
[07:48]  * korosora takes the beer back and swags it all down
[07:49] <bazhang> ramvi: go to #eeepc
[07:50] <bazhang> ramvi: there are a couple of debian devs that hang there, they likely will know
[07:50]  * Pelo fears that the debina devs will eat ramvi alive 
[07:50] <Allenwr> I need help with my nvidia card.
[07:50] <Pelo> Allenwr, more details please
[07:51] <Allenwr> Right, sorry
[07:51] <bazhang> mario: there was someone in #kubuntu with that same problem--cant remember who, they might have an answer if no one here does
[07:51] <Allenwr> I just did the restricted drivers
[07:51] <Allenwr> and right now I have this output in my xorg
[07:51] <tigran> orbisvicis: I've given a file read and write permission and I just gave the backup file for it the same, but when editing the file it still says "Could not create a backup file"
[07:51] <Allenwr> http://pastebin.com/d3a2099e1
[07:51] <Pelo> Allenwr, do not paste here
[07:51] <Pelo> Allenwr, thanks
[07:51] <mario> bazhang, thanks i'll search for him
[07:51] <jangari> Pelo, sorry that took so long, xmas drinks etc.,
[07:51] <Allenwr> Pelo, no worries, I hate spam
[07:52] <jangari> done that, all three linux boots are now (hd0,3)
[07:52] <Pelo> jangari, no worries, I wasn't realy waiting for you
[07:52] <jangari> great
[07:52] <jangari> should i test it by restarting?
[07:52] <Pelo> Allenwr, and waht is wrong with this entry ?
[07:52] <Allenwr> I have intel and nvidia under one section of my gfx card
[07:52] <Pelo> jangari, I think you should
[07:52] <tigran> If anyone knows C++, is there any way to run a command in a terminal?
[07:52] <Allenwr> this has happened before, and when I try rebooting I know longer can boot linux
[07:53] <Allenwr> so I need to correctly list my nvidia card in the xorg.conf
[07:53] <jangari> champion Pelo
[07:53] <Pelo> Allenwr, the first line is just an identifier,  technicaly it's an error but I donT' think it wuld interfeer with the performance
[07:53] <SuperQ> tigran: wha
[07:54] <SuperQ> tigran: what exactly do you mean by that?
[07:54] <orbisvicis> tigran, free space perhaps? is it somewhere in ~/ or elsewhere?
[07:54] <Allenwr> I just dont wanna have my PC go into a fatal error again because of gfx settings
[07:54] <tigran> SuperQ: For the c++ questions?
[07:54] <Pelo> Allenwr, I donT, know that the correct line should be,  you could try reconfiguring X and see if the correct line isn'T added wen you select the driver from the list
[07:54] <SuperQ> tigran: yea
[07:54] <tigran> orb: its in /etc/
[07:54] <Pelo> Allenwr, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:55] <kefler> I need some wine help if anyone is willing D:
[07:55] <tigran> SuperQ: with the app, have it run a command in a terminal; ex cp
[07:55] <Pelo> kefler, ask the qeustion and if anyone can answer they will try
[07:55] <prana> hi i am trying to install build-essential in 7.10 but getting dependency error
[07:55] <SuperQ> tigran: oh, you want to have a gnome launcher run the command in a terminal?
[07:55] <jangari> now pelo, how do i add my xp installation to the grub?
[07:56] <Pelo> prana,  that is almost impossible,  what is the error you are getting
[07:56] <tigran> SuperQ: No, a C++ app
[07:56] <dx9> hi :$
[07:56] <kefler> I was registering dll's through wine using regsvr32 and now I get the unhandled error msgs every time I use wine,then wine stopped working total
[07:56] <Allenwr> Pelo, how would I get it to go for my nvidia instead of my onboard intel?
[07:56] <tigran> SuperQ: c++ code to do it
[07:56] <Pelo> jangari, what partiton is your xp on ?
[07:56] <kefler> I tried to reinstall and unregister the dll's
[07:56] <prana> Pelo,  build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[07:56] <prana>                             libc-dev
[07:56] <jangari> hmm
[07:56] <kefler> but wine wont start up period now >.>
[07:56] <SuperQ> tigran: I'm still kinda confused
[07:56] <Pelo> Allenwr, just select the nvidia driver in the list provided
[07:56] <jangari> should i run fdisk -l to find out?
[07:56] <SuperQ> tigran: you're writing a C++ app, and want to spawn a gnome-terminal?
[07:57] <Pelo> jangari, open a terminal and type  blkid ,  tell me the /dev/... of the nfts partiton
[07:57] <tigran> SuperQ: Have a c++ app in lunux open a terminal and run a command
[07:57] <SuperQ> tigran: you should just be able to use system()
[07:57] <SuperQ> I think
 tigran: you're writing a C++ app, and want to spawn a gnome-terminal?
[07:57] <LiraNuna> eh
[07:57] <LiraNuna> system("gnome-terminal");
[07:57] <LiraNuna> ?!
[07:57] <SuperQ> use the /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator symlink
[07:57]  * travkin is online.
[07:57] <prana> Pelo, and one more package name  Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1)  but it is not going to be installed
[07:58] <tigran> LiraNuna: Well can I set it to run specific code, not just open a termianl
[07:58] <tigran> LiraNuna: I need it to run a command auto
[07:58] <gkasinath> hola! Hello! Hoi! everybody!
[07:58] <dx9> hi gkasinath :)
[07:58] <Pelo> prana, what line are you using to install build-essential ?
[07:58] <jangari> i have two ntfs partitions, one for xp and one for data, but only one is showing up on blkid
[07:58] <LiraNuna> tigran, what exactly do you want to do
[07:58] <gkasinath> hey dx9
[07:58] <prana> Pelo,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:58] <Pelo> jangari, and it is ?
[07:58] <gkasinath> merry xmas dx9 and everyone!
[07:58] <dx9> sudo apt-get install build essential
[07:58] <jangari> it's /dev/sda3
[07:58] <Pelo> prana, that is very odd
[07:58] <kefler> dx9
[07:59] <dx9> merry xmas u too :D
[07:59] <Pelo> dx9, you need a - in there
[07:59] <jangari> that's my data partition
[07:59] <gkasinath> thanks for that mate.
[07:59] <kefler> have you gotten games to work in Direct X mode ? >.>
[07:59] <dx9> XD
[07:59] <tigran> LiraNuna: I created a gui editor for a config file, and saving is the part I'm stuck. I can't write to /etc/. So I want to write it to a different location then copy that file to /etc/ using sudo in a terminal
[07:59] <Pelo> jangari, open gparted and tell me what the windwos partiton is
[07:59] <prana> Pelo, all the packages update
[07:59] <prana> Pelo, what else can i try
[07:59] <LiraNuna> tigran, eh?!
[07:59] <SuperQ> tigran: ohhh
[07:59] <gkasinath> now, I dont want to sound very matter of factly, but I am wondering if one of you is free to help me out with an install/boot problem.
[07:59] <LiraNuna> you can't write to /etc/ because the app doesn't run on root
[08:00] <tigran> Oh, so if I give the app root privilage, it'll work?
[08:00] <LiraNuna> tigran, use uid() function, if it's not 1000, user is not root
[08:00] <Missy18> is there a way to download all repositories so that packages can be installed from local server rather then from internet, since most pc on my network do not have internet access?
[08:00] <LiraNuna> tigran, obviously
[08:00] <Pelo> prana, I don't realy knwo,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:00] <tigran> Yea :P
[08:00] <SuperQ> lol
[08:00] <tigran> haha, I can just do that
[08:00] <tigran> I make stuff so complicated
[08:00] <LiraNuna> tigran, make sure to let the user know
[08:00] <jangari> pelo, i don't have gparted, andi haven't set up synaptic yet
[08:00] <gkasinath> Missy, have you tried to mirror the ubuntu servers on your local server?
[08:01] <tigran> LiraNuna: only user is gonna be me :P
[08:01] <tigran> and I know
[08:01] <LiraNuna> if(uid() != 1000) error("must run on root");
[08:01] <LiraNuna> tigran, I see
[08:01] <Pelo> jangari, in the terminal sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:01] <LiraNuna> tigran, it's still nice to share
[08:01] <tigran> LiraNuna: Thanks, and SuperQ
[08:01] <LiraNuna> tigran, sudo ./yourapp
[08:01] <LiraNuna> np
[08:01] <jangari> pelo, i can tell you that visually, in the disk management in windows, the xp partition is the second from the start, the swap is the front
[08:01] <SuperQ> tigran: np
[08:01] <LiraNuna> anyone here is a cross compile expert by chance :/
[08:02] <gkasinath> dx9, I have a question. How does one make an existing ubuntu install (running on an internal HDD) usb bootable?
[08:02] <Pelo> jangari,  is your swap /dev/sda1 ?
[08:02] <SuperQ> tigran: or gksudo if you want a gui-sudo popup
[08:02] <client6> eyik
[08:02] <prana> Pelo, can there be problem with mirror i selected or repositories enabled?
[08:02] <Pelo> LiraNuna,  you'll get more results by asking a specific question
[08:02] <Pelo> prana, it is possible
[08:03] <jangari> i believe so, except blkid lists two swaps, sda1 and sda2
[08:03] <LiraNuna> okay, well. anyone have mannaged to build a cross compiler for i686-apple-darwin8 and/or powerpc-apple-darwin8 using GCC4.1.2 ?
[08:03] <Allenwr> Wish me luck
[08:03] <jangari> then sda3 for my data drive
[08:03] <Pelo> prana, put your install cd in ,  you should be asked to add it to the repos,  apt-get update again and then try to install build essetial
[08:04] <Pelo> jangari, ok so I'll assume that sda2 is your windows partiton , hold on while I wrte you the entery you'll need to add to menu.lst
[08:04] <LiraNuna> I Got powerpc-apple-darwin8 cross compiler to work, but whenever I try to configure then build any library, I get weird include errors
[08:04] <LiraNuna> thing is, the includes are THERE, and -isystem is comfigured properly
[08:04] <gkasinath> Pelo, LiraNuna, can you take my question on using an existing Ubuntu 7.10 on internal HDD and converting it to usb bootable.
[08:04] <prana> Pelo, okay trying with different repos  will try with cd also
[08:04] <LiraNuna> I got i586-mingw32msvc cross compiler working perfectly
[08:04] <Pelo> gkasinath, I wouldn'T know about that
[08:05] <LiraNuna> gkasinath, I don't think Ubuntu supports that...
[08:05] <LiraNuna> there used to be an "Ubuntu Lite" distro for USB sticks
[08:05] <gkasinath> Pelo, LiraNuna, okie.
[08:05] <LiraNuna> too bad it died...
[08:05] <orbisvicis> well i dont know if this is possible, but can you have the app store the changes on some buffer, tigran?
[08:05] <Pelo> LiraNuna, that's over my head personnaly
[08:05] <LiraNuna> guh
[08:05] <LiraNuna> Pelo, I got 5 cross compilers on my machine
[08:06] <jangari> pelo, i just got gparted, yes it's sda2
[08:06] <Pelo> jangari, join me in #pelo, I donT' want to paste in this channel
[08:06] <LiraNuna> arm-eabi, arm-elf, bfin-elf, i586-mingw32msvc, i686-apple-darwin8 and powerpc-apple-darwin8
[08:06] <tigran> orbisvicis: I got it already, just going to have the app ran in a bash script, write new config a temp loaction, have bash ask for the password and do its thing, and then delete the temp file. That'll work
[08:06] <Pelo> LiraNuna, you are more 1337 then I am , I realy can'T thelp with this,  maybe the lovely ppl in ##linux, if they are sober enough
[08:06] <LiraNuna> okay, make it 6, in addition to native compiler
[08:06] <gkasinath> Pelo, LiraNuna, I did read about installing a full version of Ubuntu (not the Lite) on USB drive on the ubuntru forums, but there was nothing about using an existing installed os USB bootable.
[08:07] <LiraNuna> gkasinath, oh, you want to use an existing installation?
[08:07] <LiraNuna> just copy /home/, /etc/ and /usr/
[08:07] <Pelo> gkasinath, please stop highlighting me,  I cannot help you with this , I have no knowledge fo this issue
[08:07] <LiraNuna> after installing a fresh copy to the usb hdd
[08:07] <user11_011> is there any softwarein ubuntu like icall to call to a phone from pc?
[08:07] <LiraNuna> user11_011, skype, ekiga
[08:08] <LiraNuna> user11_011, Application -> Add/Remove -> Search for phone
[08:08] <user11_011> LiraNuna: they charge you
[08:08] <LiraNuna> user11_011, I don't know of a free software for that then, maybe Gizmo Project?
[08:09] <user11_011> LiraNuna: and for some reason my add/remove is not opening up
[08:09] <SuperQ> user11_011: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/
[08:09] <gkasinath> "just copy /home/, /etc/ and /usr/" was that for me?
[08:09] <SuperQ> user11_011: latest skype beta supports video calls too
[08:09] <LiraNuna> gkasinath, yes, sorry for missing prefix
[08:09] <user11_011> SuperQ: but it charges!!!
[08:10] <SuperQ> user11_011: yes, phone calls cost money
[08:10] <gkasinath> no problem mate.
[08:10] <LiraNuna> SuperQ, he's a cheapo, he wants a "free one"
[08:10] <LiraNuna> the only free one I know is Gizmo Project
[08:10] <SuperQ> LiraNuna: heh
[08:10] <LiraNuna> but you need to do some stuff before you can call for "free"
[08:10] <SuperQ> user11_011: skype->skype calls are free :)
[08:10] <SuperQ> only skype -> POTS cost money
[08:11] <user11_011> SUperQ LiraNuna: free is not cheap. i wonder how u cheap fellows came to ubuntu
[08:11] <LiraNuna> "BUT THEY CHARGE!!1!"
[08:11] <LiraNuna> user11_011, Linux is a powerful cross compiler env
[08:11] <SuperQ> user11_011: open-platform
[08:11] <LiraNuna> user11_011, it's annoyingly hard to cross compile on winblows
[08:11] <LiraNuna> besides, there's no better coding env then linux
[08:11] <SuperQ> user11_011: I get paid to work on Linux systems for a living
[08:11] <LiraNuna> I used ubuntu cause it's fun, intuitive and up to date with what I need
[08:11] <gkasinath> and its cheapo!! :) I have no problem with that! :)
[08:12] <LiraNuna> without the frustration of HW detection
[08:12] <albech> LiraNuna: I would disagree with that.. Windows is actually a good dev env
[08:12] <LiraNuna> gkasinath, I dare you to cross compile on winblows
[08:12] <LiraNuna> albech, mention visualStudio and you're really asking for it
[08:12] <dominicus> is it normal that Skype isn't in Synaptic?
[08:12] <LiraNuna> dominicus, yes, it's proprietary
[08:12] <dominicus> ok thanks
[08:13] <SuperQ> speaking of pay, I should try the pay-for cedega to see if it works better for Steam games
[08:13] <gkasinath> LiraNuna, I agree mate, cross compiling in Windows is almost non-existant. but hey, I dont need to cross compile. cant think of a time I needed to. :)
[08:13] <bthomson_> http://pastebin.com/m27f58629
[08:13] <LiraNuna> albech, if they teach you at school that "MSVC" is ruling the market, think again
[08:13] <gkasinath> I like Ubuntu, because I can do away with all the bloatware with windoze
[08:13] <LiraNuna> all majot video game companies uses GCC to compile COMMERCIAL GAMES such as Nintendo  uses arm-elf-gcc
[08:14] <LiraNuna> sony uses mips-eabi, and microsoft... well, they still suck
[08:14] <bthomson> i tire of microsoft
[08:14] <bthomson> they arent bad, they just arent good
[08:14] <gkasinath> microsoft??!! I didnt think make game consoles, the last time I heard, they attempted and made an electric stove instead! :)
[08:14] <albech> LiraNuna: I have been working with just about every *nix you can mention for the past 15+ years.. So I am a true *nix'er, but I still see some great tools in Windows and use them daily. Visual Studio is one of them
[08:14] <SuperQ> LiraNuna: also a lot of other embeded platforms cross-compile.. like wifi routers
[08:15] <LiraNuna> SuperQ, wifi routers uses ARM or MIPS
[08:15] <SuperQ> ja
[08:15] <LiraNuna> albech, MSVC is bloated and slow software
[08:15] <dominicus> anyone know if Gutsy does not force you to use the keyring manager for wi-fi?
[08:15] <LiraNuna> not to mention GCC is ten times better then GCC4.2.2
[08:15] <SuperQ> dominicus: if you don't connect to any secured wifi, it shouldn't use it
[08:16] <LiraNuna> dominicus, if you don't use autologin then it won't ask you
[08:16] <albech> LiraNuna: well thats your oppinion and I respect that
[08:16] <SuperQ> dominicus: I think gutsy has a new option to save your passphrase
[08:16] <dominicus> i sure hope so
[08:16] <OTiux> Hello,everyone,I'm a green hand ...
[08:16] <LiraNuna> SuperQ, dominicus, it has - am using it right now
[08:16] <gkasinath> well, I cant seem to use my broadcom 4306 wifi pcmcia card with wep enabled access point. I ve given up now.
[08:16] <dominicus> i want autologin and and autoconnect to my secure WPA (or wpa2.. whatever it is) wi-fi
[08:16] <LiraNuna> dominicus, you can't have both
[08:16] <Pelo> OTiux, try turpentine
[08:16] <dominicus> LinaNuna: because you gotta do the little hack?
[08:17] <LiraNuna> dominicus, what little hack? it's impossible
[08:17] <SuperQ> dominicus: if you don't rome, you could just turn off network-manager and hard-code it
[08:17] <LiraNuna> the keyring manager counts on the password you provide to GDM
[08:17] <SuperQ> dominicus: but that's a bunch of anoying config files
[08:17] <LiraNuna> fake login == no password == locked keyring
[08:17] <dominicus> sigh..
[08:17] <dominicus> why make life so hard..
[08:17] <SuperQ> dominicus: SECURITY OMG! ;)
[08:17] <LiraNuna> dominicus, security
[08:17] <CARLOSSANTANA> How do I make money with Ubuntu???
[08:17] <oralia> hi.  Is there a way to adjust brightness of your display or gamma in ubuntu feisty fawn? dvd playback is dark though web surfing brightness/screen brightness is fine....
[08:17] <dominicus> i know, but still
[08:18] <dominicus> no one is gonna get unauthorized access to a home computer
[08:18] <SuperQ> hell, my work admins force me to have an encrypted rootfs on my laptop
[08:18] <dominicus> so it might as well autologin and autoconnect to the home wifi
[08:18] <SuperQ> dominicus: so hard-code it
[08:18] <SuperQ> dominicus: wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:18] <LiraNuna> dominicus, that's the best choice
[08:18] <CARLOSSANTANA> how can i make $$$ on ubuntu
[08:18] <SuperQ> CARLOSSANTANA: get a CS degree
[08:18] <fsanlu> hahaa good answer
[08:18] <dominicus> SuperQ: i'm not gonna hardcode it.. cause I just won't be able to do it. Until there is an official way I just won't bother
[08:19] <LiraNuna> CARLOSSANTANA, YOU ATTACK IT'S WEAK POINT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE
[08:19] <dominicus> SuperQ: maybe if there was an app.. but a little hack.. nah
[08:19] <CARLOSSANTANA> i can get CS degree from ubuntu?
[08:19] <Pelo> CARLOSSANTANA, I've been doing suport here for a year and I havenT' made a dime
[08:19] <fsanlu> merry christmas everyone!
[08:19] <fsanlu> (for those who celebrate it)
[08:19] <SuperQ> dominicus: yea, sorry, wish it was easier
[08:19] <tigran> orbisvicis: Works :-D
[08:19] <SuperQ> dominicus: hold on a sec, let me see if there's another way
[08:19] <CARLOSSANTANA> how do you eat Pelo
[08:19]  * Pelo wonders why all the religious nuts are out in force tonight of all night
[08:19] <dominicus> SuperQ: my ears are open
[08:19] <CARLOSSANTANA> i am hungry need money for food
[08:19] <Pelo> CARLOSSANTANA, Ihave a real job
[08:19] <dominicus> zomg its pelo
[08:20] <Sithis> lol
[08:20] <OTiux> merry christmas,fsanlu
[08:20] <CARLOSSANTANA> ubuntu is not a real job?
[08:20] <tigran> Pelo: whats going on? lol
[08:20] <Pelo> CARLOSSANTANA, not in this channel it isn'T
[08:20] <fsanlu> hehe thanks Otiux
[08:20] <CARLOSSANTANA> i want a real job in ubuntu
[08:20] <btse> write a book
[08:21] <fsanlu> now who wants to give me the best christmas present right now by answering a question? lol.. ill give you an e-hug right after i promise
[08:21] <Pelo> CARLOSSANTANA, move to england and get an interview at cannonical
[08:21] <Sithis> lol
[08:21] <Urbandale> can i ask an azureus question?
[08:21] <Urbandale> I know this isn't the riight channel, but the azureus channel is full of tumbleweeds
[08:21] <OTiux> But here we are still working in Christmas....
[08:21] <Pelo> Urbandale, can I beat you ?
[08:21] <ilaeta> happy christmas
[08:21] <dominicus> hey guys: i got a USB headset with built-in drivers... is there any chance it will work on Ubuntu?
[08:21] <Sithis> noes
[08:21] <Pelo> fsanlu, waht is your quesiton ?
[08:21] <tigran> dominicus: try it...
[08:21] <ilaeta> can i install joost in ubuntu?
[08:21] <CARLOSSANTANA> shazzz im too poor to move to englandland
[08:21] <dominicus> i just did.. i dont think its working
[08:22] <Pelo> dominicus, check the model in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:22] <dominicus> ok
[08:22] <CARLOSSANTANA> i'm going to have to work in a store with WINDOWS
[08:22] <Pelo> CARLOSSANTANA, please stop
[08:22] <CARLOSSANTANA> ok cya Pelo
[08:22] <Pelo> ilaeta, does jost have a linux port or a linux alternative ?
[08:22] <BHSPitMonkey> If I wanted to get a teensy web server running in a few minutes on my Ubuntu desktop (for internal use on my network, temporarily), what should I use?  :)
[08:23] <Pelo> BHSPitMonkey, apache ?
[08:23] <ilaeta> Pelono....i dont know...im trying to use wine but oesnt work
[08:23] <fsanlu> Pelo, well i was reading up on the restricted things such as mp3's and the flash-plugin for firefox. so i decided i wana install it and used the add/remove app to install the extra packages. well it kinda hung after it downloaded.. i dont know if that was just a fluke tho. should i retry? or are there other ways of getting those codecs/etc..
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> Pelo, I was thinking something more like lighthttpd would be preferable, but I don't know.
[08:23] <travkin> Guys. I am have AMD Athlon processor, how to select platform whati need, x86 or i686?
[08:23] <fsanlu> Pelo (oh im a new user of Ubuntu as of today :], pardon my newness)
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> I think apache is a little heavyweight for my needs
[08:23] <Pelo> !mp3 > fsanlu check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[08:24] <fsanlu> Pelo thank you
[08:24] <Urbandale> does anyone have a solution for odd character encoding in azureus?
[08:24] <jangari> pelo, thanks again, merry northern hibernal solstice celebrations, and i'll see you all later
[08:24] <Pelo> fsanlu,  no problem and I am not dismissing you with standard instructions, that's just the easiet way to go about it , do not let the instructiosn frighten you
[08:24] <tushyd> hey, i need to burn an ISO of a movie that's from a DVD-9. Are there any good programs to compress the movie to fit onto a dvd-5?
[08:24] <Pelo> BHSPitMonkey,  I realy donT' know much about this stuff, next to nothing realy
[08:25] <no0tic-local> tushyd, k9copy
[08:25] <tushyd> much appreciated
[08:25] <fsanlu> Pelo i actually found these intructions and it hung my computer..
[08:25] <iblicf> hi everybody :) , i used to cancel an 'apt-get install' process , how to stop it ? becacause it prompt me "dpkg --configure -a" when i use apt next time ...
[08:25] <Pelo> Urbandale, presonnaly I recommend you use something other thenn azureus, most other clients are much lighter and simpler to use
[08:26] <bthomson_> bittorrent is illegal
[08:26] <Urbandale> pelo, yeah, I know, but ive used it for about a year now and I'm real comfortable with it is all
[08:26] <Pelo> fsanlu, open synaptic  ( menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager) ,  search for gstreamer,  install every single gstreamer0.10 package you see , that shoudl handle most of it
[08:26] <Urbandale> did ne1 see what bth said? lol
[08:26] <Pelo> Urbandale, I use to do support in #azureus-support, trust me,  get someting else,  try utorrent on wine , or deluge torrent
[08:27] <btse> bthomson, why is bittorrent illegal?
[08:27] <Urbandale> pelo, yeah, the azureus support channel has 11 users, but my question has been up for around 25 minutes
[08:27] <Urbandale> btse, its not, and he left
[08:27]  * Pelo did support in #azureus-support over chrismass a few years ago when bittorrent was taking off and azureus was the bee's knees,  he would trouble shoot 5 nat problems at a time ,  
[08:28] <btse> right...
[08:28] <Urbandale> nah, im good with NAT, its wierd though
[08:28] <Pelo> btse, bittorrent is not illegal, but some of thecontent being shared might have copyright attached to it
[08:28] <Urbandale> my character encoding is off, and not just on the torrents
[08:29] <Urbandale> its on the client itself as well
[08:29] <btse> I know, but I was wonmdering what bthomson thought
[08:29] <Pelo> Urbandale, sounds like a code page problem  the caracters you may be having problems with might be chinese or something similar, as in non latin
[08:29] <SuperQ> dominicus: yea, I got nothing
[08:29] <gkasinath> I gtg now fellas, thanks a bunch for your ideas and tips that I learnt when I was here. bye for now and have a great new year!
[08:29] <vinicius> my wget gives the "unable to get local issuer certificate" error at any https download, what's the problem?
[08:29] <dominicus> SuperQ: it's ok.. I just dont think that not giving the users a choice is good
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> btse, bthompson left immediately after saying what he said
[08:29] <SuperQ> dominicus: The only thing I can think of is to take apart the C code that prompts and write something that reads a dotfile
[08:29] <BHSPitMonkey> he was trolling
[08:29] <SuperQ> dominicus: I don't think it's intentional
[08:29] <btse> Ok, didn't see he left
[08:30] <SuperQ> dominicus: I think it's just what the author thought was "good enough"
[08:30] <btse> That's why nick completion didn't work :)
[08:30] <dominicus> SuperQ: Well anything that's free is good enough.. but it can always be better
[08:30] <OTiux> I'm now run Ubuntu in VMware , WinXP env .... and I'm afraid of deal with this two systems ... Shall I format my HardDisk to install Ubuntu?
[08:30] <Urbandale> pelo, other people said to change my default torrent encoding, as it was on the offending character set. it is now on UTF-8 again but no fix came from it
[08:30] <SuperQ> dominicus: Hrm, I wonder which app is actually asking for the passphrase
[08:30] <SuperQ> dominicus: there is a pam plugin
[08:30] <SuperQ> dominicus: but I don't think that's going to help with auto-login
[08:31] <Pelo> Urbandale, did you restart azureus ?
[08:31] <lulu> i'm having problems setting up dual monitors on ubuntu
[08:31] <Urbandale> pelo, yeah, one of the first fixes i tried
[08:31] <Pelo> Urbandale, that's realy all I have for you
[08:31] <Jordan_U> OTiux, Are you sure you are ready to be completely without windows or do you plan to dual boot / run windows in vmware in Ubuntu?
[08:31] <Urbandale> pelo, well, thanks then
[08:31] <Allenwr> Ok, that didnt work.
[08:31] <andreiMe> how can i install openmotif please?
[08:32] <dominicus> SuperQ: whatareyougonnado.. it's ok, thanks for the help anyways
[08:32] <Pelo> Allenwr, what didnT' work ?
[08:32] <Allenwr> On boot, it freezes
[08:32] <Pelo> Allenwr, what did you do ? that didnT' work ?
[08:32] <Allenwr> I am on the live cd again.
[08:32] <Allenwr> i did the sudo command you told me
[08:33] <Allenwr> selected the drive and the PCI address
[08:33] <Pelo> Allenwr, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:33] <Allenwr> yes
[08:33] <Pelo> Allenwr, no leave those alone, just select the video driver
[08:33] <Pelo> Allenwr, also if you are not gonna use it , disable your onbaord video card from the bios
[08:33] <Allenwr> i left everything else default
[08:34] <Allenwr> i dont have a disable option
[08:34] <Allenwr> its retarded
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Allenwr, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Allenwr, That will only ask about the driver
[08:34] <Pelo> thank you jordan
[08:34] <Allenwr> hmm
[08:34] <Allenwr> ok
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Allenwr, Or possibly the resolution also, I think it no longer needs to ask that though in 7.10
[08:35]  * Pelo will be able to go to bed in 25 min 
[08:35] <Allenwr> it asked me which resolutions I wanted
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Pelo, There is a factoid for it if you forget, !xconfig :)
[08:35] <Allenwr> I left it at default
[08:35] <jgoo> Merry Christmas! And now, torrents....
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Allenwr, What card do you have and what driver was selected by default?
[08:36] <Pelo> Jordan_U, I'm a bit tired tonight I' trying to stay up so I can get to some odd work shifts this week
[08:36] <Allenwr> I have the nvidia fx 5200
[08:36] <jgoo> What is the default torrent handler on gutsy, for firefox? I just see 'trackerd' as a process, nothing that signifies the torrent window I have open...
[08:37] <lulu> i have a Nividia geforce 4000mx agp, with and old pci video card for my second monitor. but i'm having problems makeing them work together, like when i set the agp monitor to be at a resolution, it messes up. and it keeps going to the old pci card instead of the agp. any ideas?
[08:37] <jgoo> I started two torrents last night, but santa reset my computer (he is working for the MPAA!!), now, how do I resume them? (using the default torrent handler!)
[08:38] <andreiMe> does anyone know how to install openmotif, cause i get a stupid error
[08:38] <andreiMe> please
[08:38] <jgoo> oooooh. I found the same link, and used 'open' and it did continue session... (BitTorrent (default))
[08:38] <jgoo> but how do I see all sessions that can be continued?
[08:39] <Pelo> g'night folks
[08:39] <Urbandale> pelo, gnite!
[08:39] <lulu> any ideas?
[08:41] <Allenwr> I feel like I am SOL on this.
[08:42] <jgoo> Allenwr: you have an nvidia 5200? I have one of those (and a 5700) both work flawlessly first time without issues on ubuntu
[08:42] <Allenwr> hmm
[08:42] <Allenwr> I am just unlucky then
[08:42] <jgoo> right now I have an ati 9200 ancient thing, and compiz runs absolutely fine on it (much to be amazement)
[08:42] <jgoo> Allenwr: maybe there is a different way of doing what you are trying to do... but I probably don't know it... :-/
[08:42] <Allenwr> I dunno, I am using my on board when trying to install the drivers for the 5200
[08:43] <emmerac> anybody know if there is a gui front end for truecrypt?
[08:44] <emmerac> so no answer I guess...
[08:44] <Allenwr> jgoo
[08:44] <Allenwr> do you have your 5200 running right now?
[08:44] <chazco> emmera - there is, but it can be unreliable.... I'd strongly recommend the command line in this case
[08:47] <rumi> hi
[08:47] <rumi> hi
[08:47] <kefler_> yaya, i got my wine problem fixed :D
[08:47] <rumi> how r u?
[08:48] <jgoo> i r gud u?
[08:48] <soldats> good
[08:48] <rumi> me too
[08:48] <rumi> ur asl pls
[08:48] <kefler_> ALSA loads but I hear no sound(using logitech USB headset) any ideas as to what could be wrong ?
[08:48] <Allenwr> anyone here running a nvidia geforce fx 5200 at this moment?
[08:48] <jgoo> This is like... live-action-bash.org right here...
[08:49] <Silver_Fox> Merry Christmas all!
[08:49] <jgoo> Holly Jolly Christmas To You Too!
[08:50] <Allenwr> jgoo, do you have your 5200 running right now?
[08:50] <Ximal> Im having trouble on my laptop ... I have ethernet-cble based internet... yet ...when i disconnect the ethernet cable I noticed my wireless internal internet is not working ...  Anyone have a clue as to what the heck I did wrong ? or how to test to get it working again /
[08:50] <Ximal> ?
[08:50] <GeorgeA> my mouse has 5 buttons, how can i set them up on ubuntu? (left + middle + right + two 'custom')
[08:50] <bqmassey> i'm looking at a "minimum requirements" list for a program i want to install.. what's the best way to see if i have them all?
[08:51] <kefler_> Ximal: does your wireless card get an IP or does it just not do anything PERIOD ?
[08:51] <Benalex> bqmassey: is it a game?
[08:51] <Ximal> no... the rf light indicating it is on... DOES NOT come on in linux.. but when I boot windows it does..
[08:51] <bqmassey> it's Straw RSS reader
[08:52] <kefler_> Ximal: what wireless card do you have ?
[08:52] <Ximal> I've right clicked the adapater on top right ... and enabled networking and wireless in ubuntu
[08:52] <Ximal> the card is compatible.. i know....
[08:52] <Benalex> bqmassey: why do you think you should check req for a RSS reader?
[08:52] <Ximal> I'vebeen using it so far... but i did something trying ti nstall my sprint card..
[08:52] <btse> but the light goen on olny on receive/send
[08:52] <kefler_> Ximal: my friend has this problem while mine works fine and we both use the same card
[08:52] <Ximal> something like sudo dmesg|grep ttyUSB
[08:53] <bqmassey> Benalex:  i'm an idiot on linux and im trying to build and install something.. i just dont know if the minimum requirements are filled
[08:53] <Ximal> i also did sudo modprobe -r usbserial
[08:53] <kefler_> does your wireless card show up in the ifconfig ?
[08:53] <Benalex> bqmassey: ahaa you mean dependencies!!
[08:53] <Ximal> so i'm wandering how to reverse them... i think i install the wrong 1 mo
[08:53] <Ximal> 1 moment kefler... will look
[08:54] <bqmassey> Benalex:  it literally says "Minimum Requirements"
[08:54] <Ximal> no it isn't kefler
[08:54] <Ximal> because it's not turned on
[08:54] <Ximal> for some reason it turns on in windows... not linux..
[08:54] <kefler_> wireless cards don't "turn on"
[08:54] <Silver_Fox> I have a bit of a problem with Movie Player, whenever i pop in a dvd, movie player opens and starts playing it!  But i dont want it to!  How do i fix this?
[08:54] <Ximal> yes they do if ur mobo supports rf on and off functions
[08:54] <Ximal> ....
[08:55] <kefler_> that's like saying disabling a nic in windows is turning off your nic card >.>
[08:55] <Ximal> umm yeah
[08:55] <Ximal> it's a gateway
[08:55] <Ximal> I can turn OFF the card but not the power supplied to it
[08:55] <Ximal> umm... the function key and f2 does thi for me..
[08:56] <Ximal> but for some reason when i disabled the usbserial i screwed up doing other commands and can't figure out how to undo them..
[08:56] <lwizard1> Silver_Fox, id like to disable that myself
[08:56] <Ximal> really sucks
[08:56] <kefler_> you can prevent your os from using it(with the exception of built on lan cards ie. laptops)
[08:56] <kefler_> but back to your actual problem
[08:56] <Benalex> bqmassey: instead of digging for this consider using Akregator or Lifera Feed Reader
[08:57] <kefler_> is your card built in or pcmcia ?
[08:57] <bqmassey> Benalex:  i want to try to build something...   but i have lifera and dont like it
[08:58] <Ximal> mini slot internal mobo conectors
[08:58] <Benalex> bqmassey: one second
[08:58] <Ximal> the kindyou have to tke the case apart
[08:58] <Ximal> but don't worry.. i'll just reinstall
[08:58] <hangthedj> anybody know a better way to make a live cd besides remastersys?
[08:58] <Ximal> i haven't done anything important on my laptop anyhow..
[08:58] <Ximal> i'm just switching to it for power consumption issues at home... it costs 40 bucks a month to operate this desktop tower ... versus my laptop's power consumption
[08:58] <Ximal> ;)
[08:59] <Silver_Fox> lwizard1,   Well, lets do it!
[08:59] <kefler_> yes I run 2 desktops and a laptop
[08:59] <Benalex> bqmassey: read this carefully.. it should help http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[08:59] <kefler_> power consumption adds up fast >><
[08:59] <kefler_> >.<
[08:59] <Silver_Fox> lwizard1,  its hela annoying
[08:59] <bqmassey> Benalex:  thanks
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Ximal, Do you use a heater in the room your computer is in?
[09:00] <Ximal> no ... jordan
[09:00] <Ximal> i keep myhouse at 60* at all times.. fahrenheit
[09:00]  * BernardB wishes everybody a fantastic Christmas!
[09:00] <kefler_> Jordan is thinking static electricity ?
[09:00] <lulu> i have a compaq fs740 and i'm having problems configuring it for ubuntu with dual monitors. any help?
[09:01] <Ximal> hehe... nm... kefler ... u guys off the wall... i can get it to work if i reinstall... so i should be fine... meh..
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Ximal, Too bad, I was going to say a computer is just as efficient at generating heat as any heater, so you can just turn down your heater and waste no energy at all ( with the right ventilation :)
[09:01] <fsanlu> i have a small question. when installing the restricted formats.. i installed the package then went on firefox to install the flash plugin. it installed successfully, but then now it still doesnt run and it is telling me to install the plugin once again
[09:02] <Ximal> nah jordan ...mine doesn't provide enough heat for my sized room.. it DOES take the chill off..
[09:02] <kefler_> sorry I couldn't help with your problem Ximal i'm kinda new to linux XD
[09:02] <Benalex> !flash | fsanlu
[09:02] <ubotu> fsanlu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:02] <Ximal> but at 65 degrees all month long and as an added test i left 2 halogen bulbs burning... i got only a 57USDollar electric bill...
[09:02] <Ximal> not badd eh ?
[09:03] <kefler_> darn good comapred to mine >.>
[09:03] <bqmassey> how do i find out if i have "pybsddb" installed?
[09:03] <Ximal> yeah
[09:03] <kefler_> 230 - 310 for hydro >.>
[09:03] <Ximal> I'm in an all electric trailer..
[09:03] <Ximal> 70 by 14 wide..
[09:03] <Benalex> bqmassey: have you initiated make command?
[09:03] <bqmassey> no.. the readme says to make sure that's installed.. i just need to know how to figure that out
[09:04] <kefler_> that's quite a big trailer =O
[09:04] <Ximal> hell... i'm talking leaving my 2 lights on in the house so i wake up and not in the dark since i'm a midnighter... right jordan / kefler / and I run my tv when i want.... my fan.... since i smoke.. to keep the room from getting foggy... etc etc... and i run my laptop..
[09:04] <hangthedj> bqmassey, in a terminal do dpkg -l|grep pybsddb
[09:05] <fsanlu> Benalex, the thing is i did that. and it currently states on my packages that it is installed... but it still doesnt work with firefox
[09:05] <bqmassey> thanks hangthedj
[09:05] <Ximal> May i also say... this distro of linux saves me electricity compared to windows dang power consumption issues... with vid card etc..
[09:05] <Benalex> bqmassey: click system>administration>synaptic package manager> and search for pybsddb
[09:05] <wernergibbon> Hi everybody. I'm having a problem with an ATI driver. When booting with the live-CD and enabling the nonfree ATI driver, everything works fine. But after installation, and after doing the same, I always end up starting in the safe-graphics mode. I even copied the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from the live CD configuration and used it in the installed version, but with no effect... Can anyone help?
[09:06] <kefler_> werner: what ati card do you have ?
[09:06] <fsanlu> Benalex, for some reason even tho it is installed that firfefox thinks that the plugin isnt :\
[09:06] <KalEl> hi, is the KDE4 complete and out for Ubuntu?
[09:06] <Benalex> fsanlu: flash install is cuurently broken...
[09:06] <Benalex> !flash | fsanlu
[09:06] <ubotu> fsanlu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:06] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:06] <wernergibbon> kefler_: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)] (correctly recognized on the live system)
[09:06] <Benalex> fsanlu: Read what ubotu said
[09:07] <brian_gaff> jewish
[09:07] <kefler_> werner: try this installation method: follow from Method 2 downwards http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[09:07] <brian_gaff> jewish
[09:08] <wernergibbon> kefler_: thanks for your tip. going to try this right away
[09:08] <kefler_> werner: you'll have to restart ubuntu during that process which your graphics will screw up, but continue until you're done and it should work fine
[09:08] <brian_gaff> jewish
[09:08] <KalEl> hi, the sound controls (volumes etc) have a good amount of lag in my system, how can i fix this please
[09:08] <kefler_> werner: the ati drivers in the restricted drivers work for me until I reboot then it buggs up for me too
[09:08] <brian_gaff> I use the acx drivers
[09:08] <hangthedj> brian_gaff, happy chanukah
[09:09] <hangthedj> ?
[09:09] <brian_gaff> ;)
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone and happy holidays!
[09:09] <brian_gaff> -b +/- sqrt[b^2 - 4ac] /2a
[09:09] <kefler_> werner: i even got XGL to work with my ati car =D
[09:10] <Benalex> MilhousePunkRock: goodmorning :)
[09:10] <kefler_> card*
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I am looking for a way to downgrade my nvidia-glx-new to 100.14.11
[09:10] <lordofthepigs> Hello! Is there some tool, that listen for mouse events and prints them to the console, in the same style as acpi_listen does?
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> lordofthepigs: xev?
[09:10] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i play a dvd?
[09:10] <Cyber_Stalker> !dvd
[09:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:10] <Cyber_Stalker> ~dvd
[09:11] <brian_gaff> !dvd
[09:11] <brian_gaff> ~dvd
[09:11] <brian_gaff> !CD
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <brian_gaff> !ram
[09:11] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[09:11] <brian_gaff> cool :)
[09:12] <lordofthepigs> MilhousePunkRock: Thanks exaclty what I was looking for
[09:12] <brian_gaff> is ubuntu looking for programmers?
[09:12] <kefler_> werner: if you don't want to use compiz, then there is a quick fix, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out the Load "glx" line
[09:12] <brian_gaff> I'm not a very good programmer, but I have an extensive background in mathematicsd
[09:12] <lordofthepigs> MilhousePunkRock: however, my computer doesn't behave the way I expected it.... ;-(
[09:12] <soldats> brian_gaff, python programmers yes
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> brian_gaff: Most likely... Just jump on launchpad and see what you can do...
[09:13] <chazco> Hi...how can i determine the size of a directory tree... Nautilus claims it to be 20MB (ish) but a .tar.gz of it is 400MB...
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> chazco: Right click and properties should work...
[09:13] <brian_gaff> I have no experience with python, but I'm pretty experienced with C
[09:13] <chazco> Thats saying 20MB, which I dont think is correct
[09:13] <jgoo> chazco: there is a 'Disk Usage Analyzer'
[09:14] <jgoo> install that and select the folder and it will show you more
[09:14] <jgoo> you can also use
[09:14] <jgoo> du
[09:14] <soldats> brian_gaff, go to ubuntu homepage and look for the section on joining the dev team
[09:14] <kefler_> chazco: right click on the top most folder in the tree and go to properties
[09:14] <jgoo> in the console, du -H perhaps
[09:14] <chazco> du is a terminal one right? Will try that
[09:14] <Ximal> ok how bout this...anyone know what the command for startup-manager is ? because i cant find it in any menus... to use
[09:14] <chazco> kefler_ - It seems to be reporting it wrong
[09:14] <KalEl> merry christmas, and here's a pile of games for you http://freeonlinefun.blogspot.com/2007/12/top-25-linux-3d-games.html
[09:14] <jgoo> chazco: do you have any links or symlinks? don't knwo how it handles them
[09:15] <Cyber_Stalker> how do i edit my sources again?
[09:15] <chazco> jgoo - probably, but nothing to outside of the tree
[09:15] <lordofthepigs> I'm trying to catch events  that should be fired by some hard-buttons. They work under windows, but I can't seem to catch the event on linux
[09:15] <lordofthepigs> I've tried ACPI, Keyboard and Mouse event without result
[09:15] <lordofthepigs> any suggestions?
[09:15] <EnderTheThird> Anyone have any luck getting Firefox 3 Beta 2 working with Flash under 64-bit Linux?
[09:15] <kefler_> Xamil: try sudo services-admin
[09:16] <chazco> hmm... du gives me yet another different size :D
[09:16] <bqmassey> are there any feed readers for gnome that allow for scheduled updating or some advanced way to control updating?
[09:17] <lordofthepigs> Is there any file I can tail to see the event?
[09:17] <chazco> So... any ideas? Nautilus thinks the tree is 20MB, du thinks 50MB, a .tar is 400MB and a .tar.gz is 350MB...
[09:18] <finn> hello?
[09:19] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i slow down my mouse speed in kubuntu
[09:19] <finn> hi people
[09:19] <finn> I am an extreme newbie to IRC.
[09:19] <kefler_> System>Preferences>Mouse
[09:20] <finn> I need to ask a question about installing an ubuntu server. can someone help me?
[09:20] <Duster> ask away
[09:20] <Ximal> finn you can install it through syster>administration>synaptics package manager ....
[09:20] <finn> ok, I want to setup a Tor server. but I want to encrypt all the data to protect the users and myself simul....
[09:21] <Ximal> hmm.. * that's my que to sit down and wait for someone to nswer finn's q's *
[09:21] <finn> ximal, the server will have 2 18 GB blank drives...
[09:21] <finn> ximal ok :P
[09:21] <Ximal> man... finn... noone can touch your stuff if you setting up lamp...
[09:21] <Ximal> Also you can setup ftp but you're on your own configuring it..
[09:22] <finn> are you sure? I read that a guy working at an isp received a subpoena from the fbi about a tor server.....:(
[09:22] <Jay-Oh-En> Duster: didnt work
[09:22] <Duster> did you follow it until you finished ?
[09:22] <finn> yes I intend to setup lamp....
[09:22] <Duster> cause part way through you have to restart
[09:22] <Ximal> tor ?
[09:22] <Ximal> torrent ?
[09:22] <GeorgeA> /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB does not exist for me, is there a way to get it?
[09:22] <Duster> and your video drivers will still be buggy
[09:23] <khelll> i have installed openldap but i miss configured some options... when i tried to reinstall it , i couldnt get the configuration interface again, how shall i start installation from scratch ?
[09:23] <Duster> you have to complete all the steps for it to work(after a final restart)
[09:23] <musikgoat> tor servers only hold small chucks of info which is encapsulated by encryption, finn only some end points are high risk
[09:23] <finn> no no....... a tor server for that onion network..
[09:23] <finn> oh ok
[09:23] <Jay-Oh-En> Duster: how do i change my mouse speed? what you told me to do didnt work
[09:23] <finn> so the encryption is already a part of the tor software?
[09:24] <Duster> ooh
[09:24] <Duster> sorry
[09:24] <musikgoat> the vast amount of nodes cannot give any identifying info
[09:24] <GeorgeA> nvm got it, it was in /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB
[09:24] <Duster> Jay: that's the only way I know of
[09:24] <musikgoat> finn: thats the layers of the onion
[09:25] <finn> but I was thinking about setting up the server so people could create pages or maybe even forums so they can talk about the rights abuses in their countries.....
[09:25] <finn> but I am concerned about being nailed about someone putting porn on the server...
[09:25] <Ximal> would someone please explain what a tor' server is ?
[09:26] <finn> http://www.torproject.org/
[09:26] <musikgoat> finn: i haven't set one up myself, so i'm not sure whats packaged, but i'm sure there is something out there,  finn: you cant serve anonymously
[09:26] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, I've just been given a Canon Powershot A530, but Ubuntu doesn't recognise it when I plug it in. What drivers/apps do I need, please?
[09:26] <musikgoat> finn: that is locally of course
[09:26] <Ximal> finn .. putting a report this site link on each one .... being a necessity and a requirement of being able to be hosted would be your best bet ;)
[09:26] <finn> ok :) :P
[09:27] <finn> ohh umm
[09:27] <musikgoat> making a tor node, and hosting pages should be separate
[09:27] <finn> I don't want freedom rights people being reported to their government
[09:27] <finn> oh it is?
[09:28] <finn> I thought the tor server could allowing chatting and mail , etc
[09:28] <Ximal> finn: here's the flaw I see..
[09:28] <musikgoat> well yeah,  so you being one of thousands of nodes, allows the packets to be anonymous, all ending at one "end-point" that still goes to the site
[09:28] <Ximal> In torproject ..
[09:28] <finn> what?
[09:28] <musikgoat> that end-point is still going to that site, and thats what the FBI wants
[09:28] <soldats> its slow
[09:29] <Ximal> If it bounces your traffic to others... they might be able to sniff the data they're sending and receiving... what if you aren't the guy looking at child porn.. but someone else is.. but the fbi traces your IP ADDRESS as the place the data last bounced..
[09:29] <NelsonUWP> !flash
[09:29] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:29] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:29] <Ximal> Thus you are subpoena'd for court..
[09:29] <musikgoat> yeah its slow, you don't want to use it for any file sharing, you will never get it :-)
[09:29] <Ximal> because you helped AID someone in illegal activities
[09:29] <NelsonUWP> ayone know how to install flash on firefox 3?
[09:29] <Ximal> u need to be on a tor network with people you TRUST
[09:29] <soldats> lol i know
[09:29] <Ximal> don't get on an open tor network finn..
[09:29] <finn> well that is why I want to encrypt the data
[09:30] <Ximal> encrypting the data..
[09:30] <musikgoat> thats trivial
[09:30] <Ximal> WILL NOT help the data coming in and out of your network relay
[09:30] <finn> so if subpoenaed all I can do is provided nonsense data ;)
[09:30] <musikgoat> if they want it, they will get it
[09:30] <Ximal> get it ?
[09:30] <Duster> Ximal: you're half right
[09:30] <Duster> Ximal: that theory wouldn't hold up in court
[09:30] <keram> i'm using kpowersave and it seems my laptop's processors are stuck at a fractional speed
[09:30] <finn> well, the guy at the ISP who was subpoenaed was able to prove he wasn't involved somehow....
[09:30] <mc2> wthat is the command used to execute the run command dialog box in gutsy. (not key combination, but actual command)
[09:31] <keram> is there a way to manually set the clock rate?
[09:31] <open-gl> hello, i am trying to install gtk 2.10 but when i type ./configure --prefix=/opt/gtk   it says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:31] <open-gl> what should i do
[09:31] <mc2> im gonna make a shortcut to it using keytouch
[09:31] <Ximal> no... but unless you duster ... are sure... that this data going back and forth is without compromising .... then ok... but would you take that chance ?
[09:31] <keram> or to even check the speed the processors are going?
[09:31] <soldats> open-gl, read the README.txt
[09:31] <finn> somehow these tor server operators are protecting themselves .....but I can't determine how :(
[09:32] <musikgoat> Ximal: the data is encapsulated with layers of encryption for every node it goes through
[09:32] <Duster> Ximal: they'd have serious trouble taking me to court and proving I purposely helped someone watch child porn
[09:32] <soldats> should say in the package somewhere
[09:32] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, I've just been given a camera, Canon Powershot A530, but Ubuntu doesn't recognise it when I plug it in. What drivers/apps do I need, please?
[09:32] <fredo> hello, how find the label cdrom ??
[09:32] <fredo> what is comd ?
[09:32] <Ximal> it's a theory just like the server.... :) hence the name Project..
[09:32] <musikgoat> finn, thats the beauty of encryption, is that symetric key is reverseable with the same key, layer after layer
[09:32] <open-gl> soldats i am reading the installation guide on there website and thats what it's telling me to do
[09:33] <keram> anyone?
[09:33] <musikgoat> finn, there is a good podcast about it from steve gibson somewhere
[09:33] <Duster> the tor project is legal, using it is legal
[09:33] <musikgoat> tells you all about how it works
[09:33] <Duster> WHAT you use it may be illegal however
[09:33] <Duster> but that doesn't mean they'll take you to court because your name pops up somewhere along the lines
[09:33] <finn> so to be clear, if the court subpoenas my data..will it be overwritten already or will the data be encrypted already without me needing to install the server with the encryption capability?
[09:33] <zheng> can i install .rpm package on ubuntu?
[09:33] <finn> musikgoat.....I would really appreciate it if you could help me find that podcast
[09:34] <Duster> it's only a felony if you directly aid someone
[09:34] <musikgoat> finn, if you are running a tor server, the data in and out is encrypted, except if you are an endpoint
[09:34] <lwizard1> zheng, you need alien to use rpm
[09:34] <Duster> and it's only obstruction if you refuse to comply with the law
[09:34] <fredo> , je cherche la commande pour connaitre le label ( LE titre) de mon cdrom que je viens d'inserer !???
[09:34] <musikgoat> finn, google security now tor server
[09:34] <finn> but I want to offer my server as an endpoint
[09:34] <finn> they are sorely needed
[09:34] <drunkard> can someone please tell me how i can get to a help room?
[09:35] <musikgoat> finn: thats a risk then, because not having the data cannot stop the ISP's from being told to shut you off
[09:35] <Ximal> drunkard as your question here..
[09:35] <Ximal> this is thehelp room ;)
[09:35] <musikgoat> as your IP is what goes to whatever address they don't want
[09:35] <musikgoat> yeah drunkard  sorry I'm off topic
[09:36] <finn> that's why I'm so interested in encrypted the disk from the start
[09:36] <Ximal> oh not really.. we're having a constructive conversation.. lot better than walking into a room with noone talking and all gone afk.. lol
[09:36] <Ximal> install finn gnompg ;)
[09:36] <finn> as long as I can continue to monitor that the server processes are not hacked or abused
[09:36] <Ximal> or gpg for gnome or kde
[09:36] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, I've just been given a camera, Canon Powershot A530, but Ubuntu doesn't recognise it when I plug it in. What drivers/apps do I need, please?
[09:36] <finn> :P ok
[09:36] <drunkard> i just installed ubuntustudio after upgrading to 7.10 and the wirless worked after the upgrade but not after ubuntu studio , how do i resolve this issue? my wireless card is intel pro/wireless 3945ABG
[09:37] <Ximal> lower case .. are you in 64 bit or something
[09:37] <Ximal> OMG
[09:37] <Ximal> drunkard u just made me realize i'm having the same issue..
[09:37] <musikgoat> finn: encfs is a common file system encryption as well
[09:37] <Ximal> tht's what i did when my wireless stopped working
[09:39] <finn> yes I read that grub now offers the ability to install an encryped......lvs? is that correct?
[09:39] <soldats> !camera
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <musikgoat> finn: lvm ?
[09:39] <azazel6667> hiya, I can't get window decorations with compiz enabled even with the decorator plugin enabled, any ideas?
[09:39] <finn> yes sorry, lvm
[09:39] <lwizard1> lvm = linux volume manager
[09:39] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:39]  * Duster think LVM would lead to serious fragmentation >.>
[09:40] <drunkard> i can't find anything anywhere, but when i try to open the restricted drivers i get an error message about having to install something but i forget what
[09:40] <finn> duster? how so?
[09:40] <kaper> why i can't mount ntfs from remote host $sudo mount -t cifs //server/folder /mount_dir -o username=xxx ?
[09:40] <LOWER_CASE> Ximal, ompaul, where can I find the ubuntu rev?
[09:40] <ompaul> !ntfs | kaper
[09:40] <ubotu> kaper: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[09:40] <Duster> from what I understand LVM resizes your partition as needed no ?
[09:40] <KalEl> how can i restart my sound system
[09:40] <Ximal> rev ?
[09:40] <KalEl> none of the games is playing sound anymore
[09:40] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE,  click on system - about ubuntu
[09:41] <KalEl> i do not know why
[09:41] <musikgoat> kaper: why cifs?  smbfs should work
[09:41] <finn> well, I'm a newbie, but won't I need only 2 partitons?
[09:41] <KalEl> but the pidgin and other apps are still playing sounds
[09:41] <Ximal> duster ... ever  heard of partition editor ? or parted ?
[09:41] <kaper> musikgoat:  before i use debian it works
[09:41] <kaper> so i remember this command
[09:41] <drunkard> Ximal can you check to see if you geyt an error message when you try to open the restricted drivers?
[09:41] <kaper> ok i will try
[09:41] <lwizard1> Duster, basically using LVM you can take 2 40gb drive and have it report as 1 80gb iirc
[09:41] <Ximal> yes i do drunkard
[09:41] <Duster> partitioning before install is one thing, but partitioning after install is another
[09:41] <Ximal> i definately doo
[09:41] <musikgoat> kaper: its not really the filesystem on the other side, it should just be whats serving on the other side
[09:41] <drunkard> what does it say?
[09:41] <finn> yes wizard that's what I want....
[09:42] <musikgoat> like samba
[09:42] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, Ximal, Ubuntu 7.04 - the Feisty Fawn
[09:42] <Duster> why not just buy the harddrive size you want ? >.>
[09:42] <Ximal> i need linux restricted modules 2.6.22-14.rt
[09:42] <finn> because I'm poor :(
[09:42] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, so the first thing I ask you do to is to unplug the camera from the machine and put it in a different usb port
[09:42] <chazco> Hi... when using any of the special-effects (graphics) in 7.10 my keyboard shortcuts for closing a window and showing the panel menu wont work... ideas?
[09:42] <Ximal> is there a way to fix that ?
[09:42] <finn> I bought a server for $15
[09:42] <finn> :P
[09:42] <drunkard> thats what i need as well, do you know where to get those?
[09:42] <musikgoat> sweet
[09:43] <Ximal> finn = wants raid...
[09:43] <musikgoat> heh
[09:43] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, tried, that, also first USB port was the one I use for Flash Sticks...
[09:43] <finn> I though raid took 1 disk and made a redunant copy..?
[09:43] <Ximal> not sure.... going to plug in my laptop now..
[09:43]  * Duster wants raid 0+1 with 32 drives :D
[09:43] <KalEl> not fair... i want to buy server for $15
[09:43] <finn> :P
[09:43] <Ximal> to the e-net cord to see if ican getit to work onwired..
[09:43] <finn> it's an old server
[09:44] <lwizard1> finn, sounds almost like me I repaired someones xbox and was given 2 servers (both servers are quad 550mhz with 4gb ram each)
[09:44] <finn> dual P3 512 MB 2 18 GB drives
[09:44] <drunkard> does anyone know how i can resolve the issue that I need linux restricted modules 2.6.22-14.rt?
[09:44] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, so did the camera turn itself on and ask you to "ok" connected to computer?
[09:44] <musikgoat> fann there are different raids, you are trying to accomplish what would be called JBOD
[09:44] <KalEl> oh in that case ok i suppose
[09:44] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, also, have used the similar line of cameras at work with Win-XP, so I'm familiar with the cameras themselves.
[09:44]  * Duster where can I buy old cheap servers ? XD
[09:44] <KalEl> still a good deal though
[09:44] <Ximal> how do i get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-rt ???
[09:44] <musikgoat> lvm should work
[09:44] <finn> secret ;)
[09:45] <mc2> wthat is the command used to execute the run command dialog box in gutsy. (not key combination, but actual command)
[09:45] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, no, it didn't, but then it doesn't under Win-XP with no special Canon software installed.
[09:45] <mc2> im gonna make a shortcut to it using keytouch
[09:45] <lwizard1> finn, yup except I have 4 18gb 10,000rpm SCSI 3 drives in each
[09:45] <finn> ok I will use that encrypted lvm........but will I be able to protect the server from hackers?
[09:45] <drunkard> i know the sudo command, but wireless is my only net connection and i dont know how to do it with the livecd running as i am now
[09:45] <lwizard1> finn, that would depend on what ever you have on the server like apache for webserver etc
[09:45] <lwizard1> etc
[09:46] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, camera problem check battery - it needs to "wake up" when on usb port or else you can't have the flash inside it mount as a mass storage device
[09:46] <Ximal> drunkard .... do sudo apt-get install *missing file error * etc
[09:46] <lwizard1> drunkard, terminal
[09:46] <Ximal> should work if the repository hasyour mising file
[09:46] <drunkard> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-rt
[09:46] <finn> yes I want to do that lawd thing..oh hell I forgot the acronym...:P really I am a total newbie to this .....lol
[09:46] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, proof, start applications, accessories, terminal, in there type lsusb and I guess it does not see the device
[09:47] <lwizard1> finn, LAMP
[09:47] <finn> LAMP! yes
[09:47] <musikgoat> heh
[09:47] <ompaul> !lamp | finn
[09:47] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, fresh batts, & taken ~15 photos this afternoon.
[09:47] <ubotu> finn: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:47] <lwizard1> finn, Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[09:48] <Ximal> FINALLY
[09:48] <Ximal> got it
[09:48] <Ximal> w00t
[09:48] <Ximal> heh
[09:48] <ompaul> !enter | Ximal  ( ;- )  )
[09:48] <ubotu> Ximal  ( ;- )  ): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:48] <finn> yes thank you I bookmarked that! do you think this will offer the best set of services for the intended tor users?
[09:48] <lwizard1> any by the merry christmas everyone (to those who celebrate it)
[09:48] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, "Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 " <<< same as when unplugged
[09:48] <Ximal> ahh come on om... i'm just saying I got something to work without asking for once... it's a triumphant day my friend !
[09:48] <Ximal> lol
[09:48] <drunkard> does anyone know how i can use a terminal command with a linux livecd running but make the change to the copy on the harddrive?
[09:48] <musikgoat> finn: most servers don't need more than LAMP
[09:49] <musikgoat> also depends on who and how you are going to allow access
[09:49] <finn> but we're talking about a special set of users......people trying to communicate covertly in a hostile environment.....
[09:49] <lwizard1> i always used http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10
[09:49] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, your usb on the camera is not talking to the machine - I stick by my earlier call problem on camera end - if it does not show up on lsusb you got no hope of it talking to it - shouting into the void so to speak, pointless exercise
[09:50] <finn> thanks wizard and ubotu
[09:50] <lwizard1> drunkard, you use it from the menus on the top left under accessories
[09:50] <Duster> hmm
[09:50] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, thanks ... will take to work on 27th & try there... if no go, then will take camera back
[09:50] <lwizard1> finn, np i've been using linux for around 3 years, and ubuntu since 5.10
[09:51] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, does your machine have or you have card reader?
[09:51] <Ximal> lower_case ... use vmplayer or something ... like vmware to install virtual pc ... etc...
[09:51] <finn> oh I have a Creative ultra ATA IDE RAID controller card....will this be useful for combining my 2 18 Gb hard drives?
[09:52] <Ximal> it might be a window only dependent piece of hardware ... because it's a type of .... umm hardware.. like the sprint usb=bussed cards
[09:52] <musikgoat> yes finn
[09:52] <moDumass> hey all, i installed Alien arena through the add/remove in Applications,, and couldnt get it started, and now my screen looks like its been magnified like 3 times
[09:52] <finn> are there drivers for creative cards in linux?
[09:52] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, no card reader, just some USB memory sticks which work OK
[09:52] <finn> oh great
[09:52] <lordofthepigs> Is there a guide somewhere on how to get suspend to work with my laptop?
[09:52] <lwizard1> finn, Raid is for taking multiple drives and see only one basically 2 18gb drives that show up as 1 18gb drive but if one drive dies you can replace it with another and not lose data
[09:52] <moDumass> if anyone knows how to unmagnify that would be awesome
[09:53] <ompaul> LOWER_CASE, you could see where that was going, I think you need to find one before you bring it to shop get your photos
[09:53] <lordofthepigs> !suspend
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <musikgoat> finn: i am almost positive on that,  if not, LVM is what you were going to go for, hardware raid is supposed to be faster, but i think software raid (what you are doing with LVM) seems to be safer
[09:53] <finn> it's a shame tor isn't an integral part of open source servers.....it seems to fit the spirit of the project......
[09:53] <lordofthepigs> !sleep
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <finn> ok thanks musik
[09:54] <Duster> wicked
[09:54] <musikgoat> finn: i could be wrong tho
[09:54] <Duster> found an old scsi server for 100$ :D
[09:54] <Duster> lol
[09:54] <ehc> i just installed kubuntu 7.10, then it said that I could upgrade to the newest version: 7.10. So I did even though this doesn't make sense. Now after downloading all of the packages it is stalled at 0% at "Installing the upgrades". Is there something I can do?
[09:55] <Duster> and an old p.o.s 450mhz computer for 13$
[09:55] <Duster> :D
[09:55] <Ximal> bah
[09:55] <Ximal> time to turn off the desktop
[09:55] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, I've got a second machine here, same 7.04, but motherboard is only 18 months old, not about 6 years.  Will try that first.
[09:55] <drunkard> ok now i'm getting the message "couldn't find linux-restricted-modules"   does anyone know how to resove this   its from this command  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-rt
[09:55] <Ximal> Is there a way to export the pidgin messenger friend lists etc... becausewhenever iuse pidgin on my laptop it always shows only the friends online and groups etc online..
[09:55] <wols_> drunkard: run depmod -a once
[09:55] <Ximal> Like the Ubuntu Chat group.. it won't show that on boot etc..
[09:56] <finn> thanks for all your help guys! merry christmas, etc ;)
[09:56] <lwizard1> Ximal, you can force it to show offline buddies also
[09:56] <ompaul> ehc, quit that program start a konsole and in there type sudo apt-get udpate ; sudo apt-get upgrade and let it roll
[09:56] <Ximal> oh ok... guess the irc is just something setup machine by machine..
[09:56] <Ximal> eh ?
[09:57] <ompaul> ehc, if it stalls are yiou behind a firewall or need a proxy server for apt to work ?
[09:57] <drunkard> wols_ it said "bash: run: command not found" when i typed that in
[09:57] <ehc> ompaul, I don't think so.
[09:57] <wols_> drunkard: only root can runt it...
[09:57] <ompaul> ehc, gtg locally it is 10am and I got to be somewhere for 11:30
[09:58] <ompaul> ehc, take it easy
[09:58] <drunkard> what do you mean? i dont understand
[09:58] <ompaul> ehc, you can also enter a #kubuntu
[09:58] <wols_> normal users can't use it. use sudo
[09:58] <Ximal> how come my laptop's restricted ati drivers is checked but gives the status of NOT IN USE ?
[09:58] <linxuz3r> merry christmas guys
[09:58] <drunkard> ahhh
[09:59] <moDumass> someone please help me out, i restarted and still no my res is all messed up
[09:59] <wols_> Ximal: look at your xorg.log and you will probably know
[09:59] <wols_> !fixres | moDumass
[09:59] <ubotu> moDumass: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:59] <Ximal> ahh fixed.. reboot of the xserver fixed it
[09:59] <Ximal> it was due to after installing some studio software ... it disabled restricted modules on my laptop
[10:00] <Ximal> causing it to disable the restricted devices//drivers etc..
[10:00] <Ximal> thanks though wols
[10:00] <moDumass> wols_ thanks, ive restarted x and i thought that would have cleared any changes to rez
[10:00] <moDumass> seems not though
[10:00] <drunkard> Ximal how do i do what you did? what commands do i use?
[10:00] <Ximal> reboot MoDumass then if that doesn't work fix your resolution manually throghyour system setup
[10:01] <Ximal> drunkard ... for what ?
[10:01] <drunkard> to solve the problem you just solved
[10:03] <Ximal> gimme a few minutes
[10:03] <Ximal> im switching to my laptop
[10:03] <Ximal> add me on your notify list.. if u need to..
[10:03] <Ximal> be back in a few..
[10:03] <moDumass> Ximal im unenabling restricted drivers and rebooting
[10:04] <telmich> good moning
[10:04] <Benalex> morning telmich:)
[10:04] <luckybamboo> i found a bug concerning ubuntu-font-firefox.
[10:06] <musikgoat> luckybamboo: report it to launchpad
[10:06] <musikgoat> !bugs
[10:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:06] <luckybamboo> trying to add new fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/my_fonts and doing fc -cache and rebooting the x-server will let crash the firefox starting with normal user.
[10:06] <luckybamboo> musikgoat, ^^
[10:06] <luckybamboo> musikgoat, i think first is hould find an alternative...
[10:06] <luckybamboo> should
[10:06] <musikgoat> yeah true
[10:08] <luckybamboo> musikgoat, do have added fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype?
[10:08] <piyush> hey i m not able to start administrative applications
[10:08] <piyush> it was working fine till last time
[10:08] <musikgoat> no luckybamboo, i was simply pointing you to reporting a bug,  sorry
[10:09] <piyush> now its giving this error
[10:09] <piyush> Failed to run users-admin as user root.
[10:09] <piyush> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[10:09] <Jordan_U> piyush, What happens when you run "gksudo true" in a terminal?
[10:09] <Jordan_U> piyush, What is the output of "sudo -l" ?
[10:09] <LOWER_CASE> ompaul, thanks for your efforts, but no joy with camera... will try at work on 27th.  BFN. Alf
[10:12] <moDumass> this is the exact error as mine.. http://ubuntu-os.freehostia.com/alien-arena-stuffed-up-my-resolutiongraphics/
[10:12] <piyush> Jordan_U:well it asks for root passwd
[10:12] <moDumass> but no fix yet
[10:12] <moDumass> please help me out
[10:12] <piyush> Jordan_U: n then gives same error
[10:13] <Jordan_U> piyush, Did you see my second question?
[10:13] <piyush> Jordan_U: no  o k
[10:14] <simplyubuntu> hello all...
[10:14] <mc2> i made a program called a. i want to use the program on my terminal, but not on others. where should i put this file so that i can run it in the terminal just by typing a but not on other users'(as happens when i add it to /usr/local/bin
[10:14] <piyush> Jordan_U:  : )   Sorry, user piyush may not run sudo on piyush-Ndian.
[10:14] <piyush> Jordan_U:  but it was working fine till yesterday :)
[10:15] <piyush> Jordan_U:  ok i m trying b sudoer now
[10:15] <simplyubuntu> anyone interested in hearing my story of screwed-up ubuntu/linux mint install, which i now need emergency help for?
[10:15] <Taggard> Does anyone know a good code editor for Ubuntu? (I'm planning to use it for Ruby)
[10:16] <piyush> Jordan_U: cheese man file is too big...
[10:16] <Jordan_U> piyush, You need to add your user to the admin group, if you can't use sudo from any user ( or log in as root directly, which you shouldn't do generally ) then you will need to run "adduser piyush admin" from single user mode ( recovery mode at the boot prompt )
[10:16] <simplyubuntu> anyone?
[10:16] <Taggard> !ask | simplyubuntu
[10:16] <ubotu> simplyubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <piyush> Jordan_U: ok
[10:17] <simplyubuntu> Taggard was just about to... :P
[10:17] <predaeus> mc2, basically you can place it anywhere you like, also in /usr/local/bin. What you have to do is change the execution rights, so they only reflect your user. see "man chmod" "man chgrp" "man chown". E.g. change the owner of the file to your user and allow only execution rights for owner.
[10:17] <Tilllinux> heya guys
[10:18] <piyush> Jordan_U: so are we adding new user or giving the same user privileges of root??
[10:19] <Jordan_U> piyush, Giving your user admin privileges
[10:19] <mc2> thanks predaeus. i've heard somewhere before that i can actually make a bin folder on my home directory, do you know how i could do that?(what and where should the dir be?)
[10:19] <Tilllinux> I don't know why, but neither gimp nor inkscape would recognize my intuos3 tablet
[10:19] <telmich> if I boot Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic ti says it cannot find root-fs, if I use Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic it works
[10:20] <telmich> anyone any idea why?
[10:20] <piyush> ?
[10:20] <piyush> Jordan_U: ok
[10:20] <Xima1> hmm
[10:20] <piyush> Jordan_U: i`ll b back  ven i m done
[10:20] <Xima1> test ?
[10:20] <telmich> like there's no support for ide in the 2.6.22-14 image
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Tilllinux, Does any program recognize it?
[10:20] <Xima1> hey drunkard ... did you figure it out yet bro ?
[10:21] <drunkard> ximal how do i sort out what you did?
[10:21] <drunkard> i've restarted many times...nothing
[10:23] <predaeus> mc2, this looks like a good introduction to access rights http://polishlinux.org/console/file-permissions-in-linux/. Depending on what you want to achieve you can just make a /home/yourusername/bin directory. If you want to run files inside that directory from everywhere you could add it to your path. But note that this interfers with security concerns on linux. The basic idea is that the system directories are owned by root a
[10:23] <predaeus> nd therefore possibly better secured than any directory owned by a user.
[10:23] <douviss_> tu-fr
[10:24] <drunkard> ximal can you explain to me how to do what you did?
[10:24] <Xima1> what';s the problem you facing bro ? and 1 moment or so... I gotta put up my desktop :( poor thing being retired ... lol
[10:24] <predaeus> mc2, search on the web for information about linux directory structures and permissions.
[10:24] <predaeus> mc2, it's a whole lot to explain.
[10:24] <mc2> thanks again predaeus
[10:24] <Jordan_U> !permissions | mc2
[10:24] <ubotu> mc2: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[10:25] <Jordan_U> mc2, Also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[10:25] <drunkard> the wireless card not working after the change from 7.10 to studio 7.10 and you said you fixed it on yours how did you do it, but ill need step by step instructions
[10:26] <simplyubuntu> ok so what i did was install linux mint on a separate hard drive that i have on my comp... fairly simple - so simple that it probably shouldnt screw up my ubuntu install on the other hard drive... NOT! so i install mint and everythings hunky dory. but then, when i boot into ubuntu, something weird happens... i get the screen which says /dev/xxx has been mounted 30 times etc and it runs fsck. then i get this thing that says fail in red and then i get 
[10:27] <simplyubuntu> anyone?
[10:29] <Xima1> hey drunkard send me an im if u get the time...
[10:30] <Tilllinux> Jordan_U: well, I can move the cursor with the pen :p
[10:30] <Jordan_U> Tilllinux, Can you click and drag things ( I have never used a tablet BTW :) ?
[10:31] <Tilllinux> yes Jordan_U ... xorg did recognize it... i can use all hotkeys and the pen but none of the graphic-programs would recognize the tablet
[10:32] <simplyubuntu> no one?
[10:33] <mariachi> Hello people, merry x-mas!
[10:33] <Tilllinux> simplyubuntu: "in red and then i get" and then you get?
[10:33] <Tilllinux> jsut reboot... it fails, when the partition/device hasn't been umounted correctly
[10:33] <Tilllinux> fsck fails with my windows partition ;D
[10:34] <simplyubuntu>  root@ubuntu.... i try e2fsck manually and i do the whole thing and it asks me something about inodes and says fix? so i say yes fix it and then it asks me a million questions like that and i say fix... then i boot into ubuntu and i get the login screen. i try to login, and it gives me something
[10:35] <simplyubuntu> about my home directory not existing... so i reboot and then all hell breaks loose. it cant boot!!! now it gives me this weird initramfs thing... like a prompt:'(. id think it was a boot loader issue but the file system check thing makes me think otherwise... suggestions? ideas? ill be really thankful for anything you say.
[10:35] <mariachi> I have two computers connected to a switch (and a cable modem connected to it too) and I only get internet in one computer
[10:35] <rw> mornin
[10:35] <friendlysys> if i am connected dto a server via SSH, is there any way I can find out to see what type of CPU and RAM i am running on ?
[10:35] <mariachi> both are assigned to dchp. why does only one gets internet??
[10:35] <simplyubuntu> i can pastebin it if you want Tillinux
[10:35] <Jordan_U> Tilllinux, I am wondering if you can drag icons specifically, because at the very least inkscape should be able to understand a click and drag event weather it's from a tablet or a mouse the same way, where it might be different ( as far as I can tell at least ) would be pressure sensitivity, but you say it won't let you draw at all?
[10:36] <predaeus> friendlysys, cat /proc/cpuinfo if  you have the required rights
[10:36] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[10:36] <friendlysys> Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1218 HE , is this a dope ass server?
[10:36] <simplyubuntu> Tillinux, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2992/
[10:37] <wols_> telmich: you are wrong
[10:38] <wols_> mariachi: cause you have no router. do you have a PC with 2 network cards?
[10:38] <drunkard> xima I can't send private messages; are you still there?
[10:38] <Gorion|Laptop> merry christmas!!!
[10:38] <telmich> has anyone else issue with openoffice.org-style-human containing an empty filename, that prevents apt-get -f install to work?
[10:39] <mariachi> wols_ no, they both have only one card..
[10:39] <simplyubuntu> Tillinux this is better http://pastebin.com/m24f91acd
[10:39] <telmich> which causes initramfs-tools to be unconfigured which makes the generation of the new initrd broken for 2.6.22-14 so the default grub entry does not boot
[10:39] <mariachi> it's a Linksys EZXS55W btw
[10:40] <wols_> mariachi: you either need to buy a router or get a 2nd network card. then it will be modem-PC with 2 networkcards or router-switch-many other PC
[10:40] <wols_> and all can access the internet
[10:40] <drunkard> xima?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> root, Xchat by default uses the user name it is running as as the nick... I hope that isn't the case with your nick :)
[10:41] <simplyubuntu> guys i really need help on this?
[10:42] <shade052_> mariachi, try getting dhcp from the computer that is getting the net
[10:42] <mickvdv> hello, i have a question: I want to compile a new version of a package (openbox) and i have the old 1 installed. Do i have to delete the olde version before i go compiling?
[10:42] <piyush> its not working
[10:43] <piyush> it says group admin does not exist    :?
[10:43] <drunkard> xima1 you there?
[10:44] <telmich> wols_: seems I'm not wrong
[10:44] <wols_> simplyubuntu: there are error messages
[10:44] <wols_> telmich: you are. very bad error description
[10:44] <piyush> hey to whom i was talking???
[10:44] <bigmoe> MERRY XMAS everyone
[10:44] <wols_> telmich: and the same still applies. uninstall the offending package
[10:45] <telmich> wols_: it is not possible with dpkg -r or apt-get remove
[10:45] <Xima1> man i feel bad for drunkard
[10:45] <wols_> it is possible with dpkg -r you just haven't read the docs enough yet
[10:45] <simplyubuntu> wols_?what error msgs?
[10:45] <wols_> simplyubuntu: then ones you get when booting
[10:46] <Xima1> heya ompaul : i can't get pidgin to show the same buddy lists i have and my offline contacts/buddy lists etc
[10:46] <lordofthepigs> How can I prevent the drums sound from playing when the login screen comes up?
[10:46] <piyush>  i tried useradd piyush admin .... it says admin group nat valid...
[10:46] <lordofthepigs> I already disabled the login sound, but I can't find a way to disable this one
[10:47] <wols_> piyush: simply useradd piyush, then add that user later to the admin group
[10:47] <telmich> wols_: I don't see an option to -r in the manpage, do you have a hint?
[10:47] <simplyubuntu> wols_ now i just get this cli that says BusyBox.... etc etc and then a prompt that says 'initramfs' where my username would usually be...
[10:47] <piyush> wols_:not working
[10:47] <wols_> telmich: --force
[10:48] <friendlysys> if there are like, a lot of vmlinuz files on the server's / , does that mean its running VPS?
[10:48] <wols_> piyush: do you use sudo with useradd?
[10:48] <piyush> wols_:actually user piyush readily exists
[10:48] <wols_> friendlysys: no
[10:48] <Xima1> can anyon tell me how to get skype compiled for ubuntu ? i have a 64 bit processor thus i can't run their 386 package... or is there a 64 bit package i can download ?
[10:48] <Tilllinux> okay Jordan_U: inkscape will draw, when I'm holding down a hotkey on the tablet, while painting
[10:48] <piyush> wols_:ya i want to make it suder
[10:48] <friendlysys> how can i know if im on a VPS or not
[10:48] <piyush> wols_:ya i want to make it sudoer
[10:48] <Tilllinux> but it still won't really recognize the tablet/pen as an "extended" input-device
[10:48] <wols_> friendlysys: check your kernel config
[10:48] <simplyubuntu> wolsz_
[10:48] <Tilllinux> it's like I'm using the pen to move the mouse :p
[10:48] <Jordan_U> Tilllinux, OK, that makes more sense
[10:48] <simplyubuntu> wols_?
[10:49] <tarelerulz> is there any media player that plays movies and songs ,but has features like Amarok?
[10:49] <piyush> wols_:actually when  i start users-admin as *any* user it gives blank windows only
[10:49] <wols_> simplyubuntu: I told you. what happens is probably the fsck delete varipus files on your hdd to get the fs in a consistent state again. reinstall your kernel via livecd
[10:49] <wols_> piyush: does sudo <commands> work?
[10:50] <piyush> wols_:no
[10:50] <wols_> piyush: how did you manage that?
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Tilllinux, Though obviously that is not the intended interface with a touch screen :) Have you checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetup ?
[10:50] <Sam1337> M3RRY CHR157M45 70 4LL!
[10:50] <piyush> wols_:i dunno
[10:50] <wols_> friendlysys: you running ubuntu?
[10:50] <Xima1> can anyone tell me how to compile a package I download for specific use on a 64 bit architecture ?
[10:50] <Jordan_U> !leet | Sam1337
[10:50] <ubotu> Sam1337: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[10:50] <Xima1> I can't get skype to run on amd64 ... in ubuntu
[10:51] <wols_> !compile | Xima1
[10:51] <ubotu> Xima1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[10:51] <piyush> wols_:probably coz i upgraded my system
[10:51] <simplyubuntu> wols_ when i mount my root partition in linux mint all i get is a folder called lost and foind and thats it... does that go with your theory?
[10:51] <piyush> wols_:upgraded with gutsy`s some packages
[10:51] <Xima1> !packages skype
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about packages skype - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <wols_> piyush: "upgraded" how exactly?
[10:51] <Xima1> !skype
[10:51] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:51] <Jordan_U> simplyubuntu, That suggests that it is an empty ext3 partition
[10:51] <wols_> !msgthebot | Xima1
[10:51] <ubotu> Xima1: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:52] <wols_> simplyubuntu: it doesn't. if it were so, you wouldn't get a busybox shell
[10:52] <piyush> wols_:well i m using mint.... ithen i upgraded some packages with gutsy CD
[10:52] <simplyubuntu> Jordan_U but thats my root partition!
[10:52] <Xima1> I though ekiga was a skype like product ?
[10:52] <bigmoe> i have downloaded the jdk.sh for linux and while executing (running ./) the file returned an error?? could anyone help me??
[10:52] <Jordan_U> simplyubuntu, gulp
[10:53] <bigmoe> /usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:35: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token
[10:53] <wols_> !Mint
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Jordan_U> !java | bigmoe
[10:53] <ubotu> bigmoe: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:53] <simplyubuntu> wols_ i dont quite understand what you're saying.... does that mean my root parttion ISNT empty?
[10:53] <piyush> wols_:mainly remember i made upgrade to usergroup n base packages
[10:53] <wols_> simplyubuntu: check in busybox itself
[10:53] <simplyubuntu> Jordan_U, double gulp.... what to do? im dying here... any suggestions would be helpful.
[10:54] <bigmoe> ubotu: what if im using gusty
[10:54] <simplyubuntu> wols_ checkl what?
[10:54] <piyush> wols_: no this problem quite older .....
[10:54] <simplyubuntu> !ubotu | bigmoe
[10:54] <ubotu> bigmoe: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:54] <wols_> simplyubuntu: your root fs
[10:54] <simplyubuntu> bigmoe ubotu's just a bot
[10:55] <bigmoe> i thoght Ubotu is a bot
[10:55] <fluxy> Hello I am trying to install wine 0.9.5.1 and added the wine repos, but can't get the list. Error: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1). Any ideas please?
[10:55] <piyush> wols_:well now how to make my self sudoer???
[10:55] <simplyubuntu> wols_ thats just it. theres no way i can do that.. theres no such command! what to do?
[10:55] <piyush> wols_:i tried adduser piyush admin
[10:55] <wols_> I don't do botched mint upgrades
[10:55] <uchazco> Hi.. i have two ext2 truecrypt partitions... how can I check the filesystems on them? They are mapped to devices in /dev...
[10:56] <piyush> wols_:ok
[10:56] <Jordan_U> simplyubuntu, If you can boot to anything then like wols_ said it can't be really empty, I would try from a Live CD ( not mint if you can help it, just because it seems iffy as a derivative to me though I don't know if it really deserves that skepticism )
[10:56] <wols_> simplyubuntu: no what command?
[10:56] <bigmoe> simplyubuntu: /usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:35: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token do u know why im getting this error
[10:56] <uchazco> e.g. run a check on /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 ?
[10:56] <piyush> wols_:how to make myself sudoer???
[10:56] <Tilllinux> umm ... the xorg.conf doesn't even contain a word like "stylus"
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> bigmoe no idea
[10:57] <simplyubuntu> wols_ no command to check an fs in the BusyBox list....
[10:57] <piyush> Jordan_U:hey i tried it
[10:57] <Jordan_U> piyush, "adduser piyush admin" didn't work?
[10:57] <wols_> simplyubuntu: there is a "ls"
[10:57] <piyush> Jordan_U:nope
[10:58] <simplyubuntu> Jordan_U and do what with a livecd
[10:58] <bigmoe> simplyubuntu: cuz im installing jdk and eclipse and this error is about the theme that im using??? confusing
[10:58] <piyush> Jordan_U:it says no group "admin"
[10:58] <Jordan_U> simplyubuntu, Mount the partition, possibly run fsck
[10:58] <rufus2000_76448> hii
[10:58] <Jordan_U> piyush, What did you do if anything significant before sudo stopped working?
[10:59] <uchazco> Anyone? Just looking for the correct way to check a filesystem really?
[10:59] <simplyubuntu> yes wols_, there is... it gives me a diresctory listing but im not sure of what
[10:59] <piyush> Jordan_U:well i upgraded the packages like user-admin
[10:59] <piyush> Jordan_U:and also base packages
[10:59] <fluxy> I am trying to install wine 0.9.5.1 and added the wine repos, but can't get the list. Error: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1). Any ideas please?
[10:59] <wols_> uchazco: "mount". how are they mounted? on what device?
[11:00] <simplyubuntu> Jordan_U the rescue mode on the ubuntu alternate install cd (all that i have)
[11:00] <Tilllinux> Jordan_U: I think it isn't working, because the xorg.conf doesn't contain any information about the tablet
[11:00] <uchazco> They are truecrypt devices (encrypted ext2 partitions)
[11:00] <wols_> fluxy: there is more to the output
[11:00] <piyush> Jordan_U::)
[11:00] <wols_> simplyubuntu: that one's good
[11:00] <simplyubuntu> when i go into that and try to open a shell in ANY of my partitions, i cant
[11:00] <fluxy> wols_:Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[11:00] <simplyubuntu> wols_ which one?
[11:00] <uchazco> wols_ - e.g. run truecrypt, /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 turns up, and then you can mount that to a mount point... but they never seem to get checked, so Id like to force one
[11:00] <wols_> simplyubuntu: any
[11:01] <fluxy> wols_: The file/link is ok tho, i tried it in my browser and got the file.
[11:01] <piyush> Jordan_U:wont work???
[11:01] <simplyubuntu> wols_ any livecd?
[11:01] <wols_> uchazco: touch /truecrypemountpoint/forscfsck  then reboot
[11:01] <uchazco> Is it as simple as "fsck /dev/mapper/truecrypt0" ?
[11:01] <wols_> simplyubuntu: a UBUNTU livecd
[11:01] <uchazco> wols_ - they dont exist on reboot
[11:01] <wols_> uchazco: remount it read only the fsck it
[11:02] <Q[e]D> hey - I want to disable some programs for system startup. Which file should I edit?
[11:02] <simplyubuntu> wols_ you mean the alternate install cd is a good choice?
[11:02] <wols_> uchazco: NEVER fsck on a writable fs and not even on a ro mounted one if you can help it
[11:02] <Q[e]D> I mean, I do not want those programs to start automatically
[11:02] <Jordan_U> piyush, What won't work?
[11:02] <uchazco> I can make it present but not mounted
[11:02] <wols_> Q[e]D:get rcconf
[11:02] <piyush> Jordan_U:i mean no way to solve it???
[11:03] <uchazco> e.g. /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 acts like a physical device (truecrypt fakes one), it doesnt need to be mounted
[11:03] <david_J> Merry Christmas
[11:03] <Q[e]D> wols_: Will try it, thx.
[11:03] <simplyubuntu> wol_? Jordan_U?
[11:03] <fluxy> david_J: Thanks, to you as well
[11:03] <david_J> uchazco: why not use LUKS?
[11:03] <shade052_>  piyush: do you have any other groups o your system
[11:03] <Jordan_U> piyush, There is almost certainly a way to solve it, you just need to be made a sudoer, but I am trying to figure out why you don't have an admin group
[11:04] <uchazco> david_J - Truecrypt works well with other Windows machines I have
[11:04] <david_J> Ah
[11:04] <simplyubuntu> Jordan_U even the ubuntu recovery mode takes me to the initramfs thing...
[11:04] <Q[e]D> wols_: I installed it but still can't see 'Firestarter' there. Do you have any idea that which file should I edit to disable that program?
[11:05] <piyush> Jordan_U:yah whenever i start users-admin just blank windows pop-up.... they dont have *any* group *any* users ,imply blank
[11:05] <bigmoe> is there a a compiler on gusty or ubuntu that compiles all the .net framework like j# c# and vb.net as VS.net???
[11:05] <david_J> Ah what are some good newgroups to get on?
[11:05] <piyush> Jordan_U:and if i create new user thr` it ..... it almost crashes....
[11:06] <david_J> Q[e]D: gksu firestarter
[11:06] <david_J> Q[e]D: else you didnt install it
[11:06] <Jordan_U> bigmoe, mono
[11:06] <Q[e]D> well I installed it and it gets run by default at every system startup. I want to disable this :)
[11:06] <uchazco> wols_ - ok... /dev/sdb1 (encrypted real device) is now available at /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 (unencrypted, acts as real device), but not mounted... so I run fsck /dev/mapper... safely now?
[11:06] <Jordan_U> bigmoe, That will do C# at the very least
[11:07] <Jordan_U> bigmoe, Wait, nvm
[11:07] <david_J> Q[e]D: Go into the firestarter options, disable the init script, or remove it
[11:07] <david_J> Q[e]D: Really don't know what option the room will condone
[11:07] <david_J> Q[e]D: I just use straight iptable rules
[11:08] <lalala> after last update nautilus lost the lan icos even if i can browse the shares manually smb://machine_name/share/ if any1 can help
[11:08] <lalala> after last update nautilus lost the lan icons even if i can browse the shares manually smb://machine_name/share/ if any1 can help
[11:08] <jgoo> How can I stop whichever component of gnome makes the thumbnails from trying to make a thumbnail or a file that is open for WRITE ACCESS.
[11:09] <shade052_>  piyush: do you have any other groups o your system
[11:09] <Q[e]D> david_J: well, I installed it because I had to. I wasn't able to open some sites and learned that it was a kernel issue. I installed firestarter to solve it but I dont want to get it at every start. I played with options and disabled it but it still gets run by default :/
[11:09] <jgoo> I am saving a video file to the desktop, and I am curious why every 2-3 seconds it keeps retrying to make a thumbnail. It seems awfully painful and wasteful.
[11:09] <Tilllinu1> simplyubuntu: are you running ubuntu on an amd64?
[11:09] <piyush> shade052:its showing blank
[11:10] <Tilllinu1> I did have the initramfs error, too, so i switched to 32bit, which worked ;D
[11:10] <simplyubuntu> Tillinu1 nope.
[11:10] <shade052_> most prob your upgrade wiped out the old groups and users
[11:10] <david_J> Q[e]D: /etc/init.d/firestarter stop
[11:10] <simplyubuntu> its more a cli than an error. i have no idea what to do
[11:10]  * Fesek just got a Creative Zen for christmas "Would anyone know what I could install yo be able to use it in ubuntu? Or maybe I could get it running through banshee? Any help is much appreciated."
[11:10] <uchazco> Okay... its very slowly checking... is there any way to make it show status the next time i do it?
[11:10] <simplyubuntu> i cant even copy my old debs from apt cache to install them.
[11:11] <shade052_> piyush:did you try groups cmd
[11:11] <simplyubuntu> theyre all on root partition
[11:11] <kerzinger> I have a raid 5 (consisting of 4 disks) and I want to reinstall ubuntu (installing not on the raid but on seperate disk). How do I resume/assemble the raid again? thanks in advance
[11:11] <Q[e]D> david_J: and to make this automatic at every system boot?
[11:11] <simplyubuntu> Tillinux any advice?
[11:11] <jgoo> ok I turned off thumbnails altogether for now, but I would hope that a thumbnail generator would check to see if a file lock would be possible, so a torrent saving to desktop does spend 24 hours trying to generate a thumbnail every 3 seconds...
[11:11] <kerzinger> forgot to add: its a software raid
[11:11] <piyush> shade052:wow its showing something new
[11:11] <fluxy> I am trying to install wine 0.9.5.1 and added the wine repos, but can't get the list. Error: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1). Any ideas please?
[11:11] <piyush> shade052:lpadmin
[11:11] <Tillinux> simplyubuntu: nope, sry
[11:12] <Tillinux> check you ram ;D
[11:12] <piyush> shade052:whats that??
[11:12] <Tillinux> +r
[11:12] <piyush> shade052:piyush plugdev lpadmin
[11:12] <lalala> shade052_:that answer was for me ?
[11:12] <fsanlu> hey guys where do you recommend besides the wonderful wiki and docs in ubuntu that i read up on linux and how it works? itsj ust cause right now im just getting the hang of it. any good places out there?
[11:12] <Tillinux> is there a wacom trigger?
[11:12] <white_eagle> fsanlu: whaddaya mean?
[11:12] <shade052_> lalala:no
[11:12] <Tillinux> !wacom
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <predaeus> jgoo, just download into a directory that is not opened
[11:13] <kurt> hi
[11:13] <white_eagle> !hi | kurt
[11:13] <ubotu> kurt: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:13] <kurt> how can i use unrar please
[11:13] <fsanlu> white_eagle: just any places online that i can read up on so i get to learn how to use linux. i just installed yesterday.. all this stuff about kernels and whatnot and even the command line still confuzzles me hehe
[11:13] <jgoo> predaeus: yes, that is sensible, unfortunately it was the first time I used this BitTorrent (default) app (whicever it is) and I just hit save.... :-/
[11:13] <white_eagle> !rar
[11:13] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[11:13] <shade052_> piyush:the lpadmin is the printer admin
[11:13] <kurt> i installed unrar free
[11:13] <david_J> Q[e]D: I really don't know what ya mean when you said it was a kernel issue.. Ubuntu kernels are pretty complete.
[11:13] <david_J> oops
[11:13] <david_J> he left
[11:13] <kurt> i need to combine a few .rar files
[11:13] <white_eagle> fsanlu: the forums are a good place
[11:14] <fsanlu> nothing is broken right now.. so i wanna spend my time reading and learning
[11:14] <fsanlu> okay okay i havnet tapped into that thanks :D
[11:14]  * javaJake arrived to see if people are still combatting Ubuntu issues, even on Christmas
[11:14] <mircuser> hi all
[11:14] <predaeus> jgoo, well you can continue some other time and just move the file to the folder and when you double click/run the torrent file again you specify the files exact location (the file in the folder) and it will pick up where it stopped.
[11:14] <piyush> shade052:wow but i dont have any printer : )  ,still i should thank it for making me admin of atleast something
[11:14] <white_eagle> !hi | mircuser
[11:14] <ubotu> mircuser: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:14] <fsanlu> hey there!
[11:14] <wols_> Qubert: firestart ir no session but ran via gnome. hwy don't you just unisntall firewstarter?
[11:15] <mircuser> can someone dcc send me a file so i can see if it receives it?
[11:15] <jgoo> predaeus: the .torrent file wasn't save anywhere (just opened) :-/
[11:15] <shade052_> piyush: not havin admin is something try "sudo su root" dont wory you dont need a printer to have that user group
[11:15] <javaJake> wols_: sudo apt-get remove firestarter
[11:15] <lalala> after last update nautilus lost the lan icons, even if i can browse the shares manually smb://machine_name/share/
[11:15] <jgoo> predaeus: I am used to using uTorrent
[11:15] <predaeus> jgoo, hm then you would've to open it again from the web
[11:15] <javaJake> wols_: add --purge onto the end of that if you don't think you'll want it again.
[11:15] <white_eagle> jgoo: use Ktorrent or better Deluge
[11:15] <mircuser> anyone?
[11:16] <mircuser> it will take a few secs only
[11:16] <jgoo> predaeus: I did that, I remembered the links on piratebay and they resumed the session (which I liked!) so it is all ok - I'll remember ot save in a dedicate folder somewhere off desktop
[11:16] <piyush> shade052:it just asked for passwd ......nothing else
[11:16] <white_eagle> mircuser: accept
[11:16] <kurt> guys how to combine .rar files with unrar please cause i cannot find the unrar command anywhere
[11:16] <uchazco> Ok... for reference... use truecrypt to map the volume, but not mount it, then fsck [-f] <mapper> seems to work :)
[11:16] <javaJake> mircuser: if you are behind a router, you'll need to set your port settings I believe
[11:16] <mircuser> it never prompted me
[11:17] <white_eagle> schmucks
[11:17] <simplyubuntu> wols_ i figured out whats happened... wanna know/
[11:17] <javaJake> mircuser: yea, it's either firewall or router issues
[11:17] <Slart> kurt: I don't know if you can just combine them.. I think you'll have to unpack them and pack them up again
[11:17] <mircuser> i'll be back restart modem
[11:17] <simplyubuntu> Tillinux, you?
[11:18] <Fesek> anyone know how to get the new creative zen running in ubuntu?
[11:18] <Tillinux> you -> your
[11:18] <Tillinux> simplyubuntu:
[11:18] <kurt> well, how to use unrar then
[11:19] <Ayabara> I'm currently using rtorrent, but I'm looking for a nicer looking client :-). Which clients look good and give _good_ speed on Ubuntu? Transmission and Azureus something to consider?
[11:19] <white_eagle> kurt: try the forums
[11:19] <white_eagle> Ayabara: Ktorrent and Deluge
[11:19] <kerzinger> how to prepare a mdadm software raid 5 for reinstall?
[11:19] <shade052__> piyush:did that work?
[11:19] <piyush> shade052:no
[11:19] <piyush> shade052:it just asked for passwd
[11:19] <piyush> shade052:i m still on $ promt
[11:20] <Ayabara> white_eagle, ok. ktorrent didn't give me a lot of speed when I used it on feisty.
[11:20] <piyush> shade052:nor going sudo..
[11:20] <white_eagle> Ayabara: what about Deluge?
[11:20] <shade052__> piyush:do you have a root password
[11:20] <piyush> shade052:yah :)
[11:20] <kurt> ok
[11:21] <simplyubuntu> Tillinux ok, so when i ran fsck the first time, what it did for some kooky reason was to thing that my whole root partition was corrupt... what it did then was to put all the files in the root partition into the 'lost and found' folder. this is what isnt allowing my to boot up.... and in the lost found folder, all the files are in flders that have random numbers (i suspect inode numbers where the data exist(ed)). any idea how to restore the data???
[11:21] <mircuser666> try now
[11:21] <white_eagle> Ayabara: what about Deluge?
[11:21] <Ayabara> white_eagle, looking into it now :-)
[11:21] <white_eagle> K
[11:21] <Tilllinu1> hmpf, editing the xorg.conf didn't help either
[11:22] <piyush> shade052:oh yes i typed root passwd .... but  still the $ prompt doent change....
[11:22] <salah> is there any mp3 players that have support for fading songs out and in?
[11:22] <piyush> shade052:nor sudo working
[11:22] <tarelerulz> I installed audacity and I  want to record my voice . I have an Hp with built in mic? I can config my sound for media programs ,but I have no idea how to make audacity use the built in mic ? help
[11:22] <mircuser666> did someone attempt to send me a file?
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[11:23] <bazhang> stormblast stop it
[11:23] <carl_> kurt, I think unrar does not existe
[11:23] <dgjones> !ops | STORMBLAST2
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[11:23] <carl_> kurt, but you can use "e" option to uncompress
[11:23] <salah> is there any mp3 players that have support for fading songs out and in?
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[11:23] <mircuser666> can someone send me a file?
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[11:24] <predaeus> !ops
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[11:24] <kurt> carl_: so that would be unrar e or unrar -e
[11:24] <simplyubuntu> !ops
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[11:24] <Fesek> anyone know how to get the new creative zen running in ubuntu?
[11:25] <carl_> kurt, rar e file_to_uncompress
[11:25] <bazhang> Fesek: not yet, though many have asked about it and the new nano
[11:25] <LimCore> STORMBLAST2 must had received a lauzy xmas present or something
[11:25] <carl_> kurt, anyways type man rar and yoy could see all options
[11:25] <lukewarm> LimCore : yeah, vista
[11:25] <bazhang> Fesek: you might want to post something to the forums and the mailing lists, and then you will be the first to know
[11:26] <kurt> thanks
[11:26] <bazhang> I think it was a bot
[11:27] <fsanlu> this is so much fun. the more i read about how to use ubuntu the more it gets interesting hehe hope i dont break my system trying to learn >;}
[11:27] <fsanlu> how many times have u guys broken ur computers due to experimenting? hehe just curious
[11:27] <kurt> man rar does nothing
[11:28] <bazhang> fsanlu: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <tarelerulz> Fsanlu, I so I could not boot into Ubuntu before that was fun . I reinstalled it
[11:28] <fsanlu> lol
[11:28] <Fesek> bazhang, thanks ;)
[11:28] <bazhang> kurt: how are you using it?
[11:28] <fsanlu> thanks ima be in offtopic.. this is business here hehe
[11:29] <carl_> fsanlu, I have benn using linux for five years, and it never failed my system, I mean it broke down never
[11:29] <bazhang> fsanlu: stay away from the easy fixes like automatix and you should be ok
[11:29] <tarelerulz> Any of use try to use built in mic? just asking
[11:29] <fsanlu> bazhang haha yeah. someone in here sent me a link.. and i just clicked
[11:29] <kurt> i have 10 .rar files and i want to combine them to 1 file, you know the ones you dl from newsgroups
[11:30] <fsanlu> i forgot who it was.. now i wanna stab him or her
[11:30] <bazhang> kurt: just click the first file--it should join automatically
[11:30] <tarelerulz> Kurt , I feel yon the rar action . I use torrent leech all the time and they break everything up into 40 some odd rars. It is rather lame
[11:31] <graabein> I have multiple instances of the same usergroup. Is it okay to delete usergroups even though I can get loose usergroup ID's?
[11:31] <kurt> it trries to open with ark
[11:31] <kurt> so that fails
[11:31] <tarelerulz> Well, I had to get rar and unrar from rarlab
[11:32] <bazhang> kurt: then click on the joined file, or you are missing some parts or those are corrupted
[11:33] <tarelerulz> I don't know about joining them. I unrar movies that are broken up into  a bunch of rar all the time
[11:34] <simplyubuntu> !cloning
[11:34] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[11:34] <tarelerulz> Kurt for the unrar stuff broken up to a bunch of rars I use unrar from rarlab .  I try use the rar you can get from Ubuntu via synaptic and it dont work on those
[11:35] <arkaitz> hola
[11:35] <arkaitz> tengo un problemilla
[11:35] <simplyubuntu> !automate
[11:35] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[11:35] <kurt> the parts are good, tested with par2 and quickpar
[11:35] <Myrtti> !es | arkaitz
[11:35] <ubotu> arkaitz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:37] <simplyubuntu> hey what command would tell me how many files are present in a particular folder?
[11:37] <kurt> btw, someone know that movie site where you can find everything about movies
[11:37] <simplyubuntu> ??
[11:37] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: only in that folder or also in its subfolders?
[11:37] <bazhang> offtopic kurt, but imdb.com
[11:39] <simplyubuntu> subfolders too
[11:39] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: find foldername -type f | wc -l
[11:39] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: for example find /etc/X11 -type f | wc -l
[11:39] <simplyubuntu> rz45335 but what about the number of a particular TYPE of file like .deb...
[11:40] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: you didn't say you wanted only a particular type
[11:40] <simplyubuntu> yeah... sorry about that.. :P
[11:40] <Riddick> does anyone know how to fix this bug under ubuntu?  when i log into my ubuntu machine to use irssi from my mac the delete / backspace key on wintendo works fine.  once i launch irssi it doesnt backspace delete misspellings anymore.  i have to use the arrow key to go back and then press delete for the word to be deleted.  this is really freaking annoying.
[11:41] <Riddick> i read on some of the ubuntu blogs/faqs this is a bug, but i want a fix / workaround.  it is driving me crazy not to be able to normal delete.
[11:41] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: find /var/cache -type f -name "*.deb" | wc -l
[11:41] <friendlysys> is there a way to check what type of harddrive the server im on is using?
[11:41] <bofh80> hey chaps, i was in here the other day and asked about a possible wallpaper / rss feed manager, someone suggested a site and i've lost it :S
[11:42] <brabbit> how do i get my original nick back...i am using xchat?
[11:42] <joeymv> I have a question:  I upgraded my 4 year old laptop's RAM from 768 to 1024 (runnung ubuntu 7.10 386), but now it sees the RAM as 1024, but wont use more than 480 memory.  ANything above 480 is drops into the swap.  anyone have any insight into this they might like to share?
[11:42] <bofh80> fidelo or something. a desktop wallpaper mamanger that grabs wallpapers from a net feed.
[11:42] <Tilllinu1> umm... I want my tablet to work ;D ... even though I added the correct inputdevices to xorg.conf, no graphics-program is able to recognize my intuos3 tablet
[11:42] <simplyubuntu> thanks rz45335... how about if i have /home/a/x.deb and /home/b/y.deb... how can i copy all the debs from /home to any location?
[11:43] <Riddick> someone help me resolve this delete/backspace issue that is caused after launching irssi
[11:44] <bazhang> Riddick: if it is a bug then it needs to be fixed; while you wait for an answer or workaround, you can try another client or search the forums for someone who has fixed it
[11:44] <ineo> Riddick: check your TERM enviroment
[11:44] <rz45335> simplyubuntu: if it doesn't exceed the maximum commandline length, you would type: cp $(find /home -type f -name "*.deb") /path/to/destination
[11:44] <ineo> Riddick: echo $TERM
[11:45] <RoyK> hi
[11:46] <Issott> Happy Christmas!
[11:46] <lch> hi
[11:46] <lch> merry christmas :=
[11:46] <RoyK> how can I allow SIMPLE passwords in ubuntu?
[11:46] <ineo> simplyubuntu: find . -name \*.deb -print | cpio -udmp destination is also possible
[11:46] <RoyK> merry christmas :)
[11:46] <simplyubuntu> crossing my fingers rz45335
[11:46] <joeymv> is there a way to tell my computer to use the extra ram it's got?
[11:47] <bazhang> joeymv: how much ram do you have?
[11:47] <Jordan_U_> joeymv, In what way? Does it not use it currently?
[11:47] <RoyK> joeymv: it should do that automatically
[11:47] <ineo> joeymv: search for commandline options during boot
[11:47] <simplyubuntu> done!
[11:47] <simplyubuntu> !cloning > simplyubuntu
[11:48] <joeymv> if I open a bunch of crap, like VMWAre and evolution with 200 megs of email clutter, and firefox, etc, it will use 480 megs of physical memory and drop the rest of watever is open into swap
[11:48] <joeymv> yet in gnome system monitor i reads as 1024 mb of ram
[11:48] <LastLemming> hi
[11:49] <LastLemming> how to config mail command from mailutils to use maildir?
[11:50] <kurt> tarelerulz: i did make and make install for that rarlab rar, is that good, cause the manual is not so clear for me
[11:50] <joeymv> user memory: 480 of 1010.9
[11:50] <joeymv> used swap: 499 of 2.2 GB
[11:50] <kurt> tarelerulz: what is easiest way to combine .rar files then ?
[11:51] <HardDisk> joeymv, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-memory.html
[11:52] <joeymv> thanks, going there now
[11:52] <kurt> they should become an .iso file
[11:52] <HardDisk> joeymv, http://colorfulcuriosities.blogspot.com/2007/06/ubuntu-speed-tweaks.html  read the part about vm.swappiness how you can reduce it so you use more ram rather than swap file.
[11:53] <benjamin> hi
[11:53] <joeymv> i never thought about it being caused by VMWare
[11:53] <joeymv> thanks HardDisk
[11:53] <HardDisk> vmware is a bit of a hog
[11:53] <HardDisk> that's why I use virtualbox
[11:53] <RoyK> I'm trying to set a new password, but gets told 'password is too simple'. Now, this is a personal computer and I _want_ a simple password... How can I allow setting stupid, simple passwords?
[11:54] <bazhang> RoyK: like what? :}
[11:55] <RoyK> bazhang: I want ubuntu to allow me to set '123' as the password if I want to :þ
[11:55] <kurt> succeeded thanks for the hint of rarlab
[11:55] <HardDisk> RoyK, you can use it anyway.
[11:55] <azureus2002> hello
[11:55]  * bazhang writes down RoyK's password '123'
[11:55] <HardDisk> Your password is too simple and may be insecure
[11:55] <HardDisk> [Change Password] [Use Anyway]
[11:55] <azureus2002> hwo wants to talk with me
[11:55] <simplyubuntu> you know the command with dpkg that gets you a list of whats installed adn whats not? i think dpkg --get-selections... well i need to know what the actual file where dpkg stores these selections is called
[11:55] <bazhang> azureus2002: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:55] <simplyubuntu> can anyone tell me?
[11:56] <azureus2002> what
[11:56] <RoyK> HardDisk: ubuntu tells me 'password's too simple'
[11:56] <azureus2002> i am new on opera
[11:56] <RoyK> HardDisk: and I want ubuntu to bugger off
[11:56] <azureus2002> please explain to me
[11:56] <iNeo> simplyubuntu: dpkg -l
[11:56] <bazhang> azureus2002: this is not a chat channel
[11:56] <finn> does anyone know if AWN works well on ubuntu?
[11:56] <fsanlu> hey HardDisk im wondering i have my swap at 1gb and i have 1gb ram.. ive been lagging from time to time is that why?
[11:56] <azureus2002> bazhang:what is this?
[11:56] <bazhang> finn: some would say yes
[11:57] <HardDisk> fsanlu, shouldn't be that bad really.
[11:57] <finn> any serious bugs with it?
[11:57] <bazhang> finn: dont know never used it
[11:57] <simplyubuntu> iNeo i need to know the actual file because i dont have the dpkg command available to me - my install's screwed up. does this mean that dpkg actually generates a new list every time?
[11:57] <fsanlu> HardDisk, i dont know like it hangs pretty bad when its installing and whatnot.. i dont know if those are flukes or not but it hasnt in awhile
[11:57] <azureus2002> i have 8 gb of ram
[11:57] <HardDisk> RoyK, 1. Choose something vague but easy to remember, like 'titanic'  2. Use symbols, like make your password titanic% . Nobody would ever guess that! Also, if you have a special character on your keyboard (i.e. the euro symbol) use that.  3. Also use numbers in your password. 4. Master passwords are very easy to remember, but if somebody finds out your password, they have access to everything!
[11:57] <HardDisk> fsanlu, are you using ext3?
[11:58] <fsanlu> yes i am
[11:58] <HardDisk> and running background processes?
[11:58] <finn> one other question for people: why can't ZFS be used with ubuntu? it sounds really great!
[11:58] <fsanlu> im not sure...
[11:58] <HardDisk> fsanlu, run top and check what's using up cpu/ram
[11:58] <bazhang> finn: not open source
[11:58] <finn> also, if I can't use ZFS then which other filesystem is best?
[11:58] <fsanlu> HardDisk how do i do that? i just installed linux yesterday hehe
[11:59] <bazhang> finn: best for what? ext3 is most widely used
[11:59] <HardDisk> fsanlu, in terminal type top
[11:59] <finn> bazhang: will it ever be licensed? or can another version be reverse engineered?
[11:59] <rgnr> !dd
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <rgnr> how do i  use dd command?
[11:59] <finn> bazhang: I hate needed to defrag my windows box.......
[11:59] <bazhang> finn: check out some of the linux sites for this info--this is offtpoc
[11:59] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk you sound like the person who could help me with this... http://pastebin.com/m24f91acd
[11:59] <HardDisk> rgnr type man dd or dd --help
[11:59] <RoyK> HardDisk: I'm aware of workarounds, but I want to _open_up_ and _allow_ simple passwords. I just don't remember where I can do this
[12:00] <finn> offtopic? which irc channel is this?
[12:00] <Berofa> HI
[12:00] <fsanlu> HardDisk okay im looking at it.
[12:00] <simplyubuntu> finn #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <HardDisk> personally I never use less than 10 character passwords.
[12:00] <fsanlu> actually nothing really is using cpu and mem..
[12:00] <Berofa> How to install drivers under ubuntu ?
[12:00] <bazhang> finn: ubuntu support channel--zfs is not part of ubuntu, ergo offtopic
[12:00] <HardDisk> so I don't know where to use simple passwords :) i'll have to google for that one.
[12:00] <bazhang> Berofa: for video?
[12:01] <fsanlu> HardDisk, i guess it was just a bad one awhile ago. it seems pretty normal.. hehe false alarm then
[12:01] <david_J> HardDisk: a program called qpamat will generate passwds
[12:01] <Berofa> no graphics
[12:01] <Berofa> I got the CD but ubnutu doesn't list it up
[12:01] <bazhang> Berofa: what card?
[12:01] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, nice mess there :)
[12:01] <Berofa> ASUS en8600GT
[12:02] <Berofa> it's not supported by ubuntu
[12:02] <HardDisk> david_J, yes but like I said I don't use less than 10 character passwords
[12:02] <bazhang> !nvidia | Berofa
[12:02] <ubotu> Berofa: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <HardDisk> not simple ones.
[12:02] <Berofa> thx
[12:02] <finn> ok,another question - can I install ubuntu from a flash drive instead of a CD?
[12:02] <HardDisk> and there are tonnes of auto generative passwords on the net.
[12:02] <bazhang> finn: pendrivelinux.com
[12:02] <finn> thanks
[12:02] <david_J> finn: Yeah you have to copy the cd contents on a fat32 formatted usb stick
[12:02] <HardDisk> Berofa, it is supported.
[12:03] <HardDisk> finn, yes.
[12:03] <finn> oh wait, I don't want to install ubuntu to a flash drive
[12:03] <david_J> finn: and install syslinux bootloader on it
[12:03] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk yep thanks for the praise :P. what to do?
[12:03] <finn> david thanks
[12:03] <finn> ok
[12:03] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, first of all, are you able to boot into either mint or ubuntu?
[12:03] <finn> where can I find syslinux bootloader?
[12:03] <Ximal> is there a way to figure out how much power your pc or laptop is using ?
[12:03] <david_J> finn: google it
[12:03] <finn> ok
[12:03] <bazhang> finn: do you have a prominent search engine available to you? :}
[12:04] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk just mint.
[12:04] <fsanlu> btw ive been having wifi problems, it just randomly disconnects either from 5 minutes or 30. im connected wired right now and i havnet had any problems since. ive tried to troubleshoot it but it doesnt seem like anything is broken. but what is weird is all the other laptops in the house dont d/c. so is it possible my wifi is getting faulty?
[12:04] <finn> sure but why not ask a knowledable irc channel
[12:04] <simplyubuntu> booting into ubuntu gives me that initramfs thing
[12:04] <HardDisk> finn, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[12:04] <david_J> finn: and if need be use a live distro with a compiler to compile it..  I think it is statically linked
[12:04] <AciD> hi
[12:04] <fsanlu> like the wifi card itself is broke?
[12:04] <finn> thank you harddisk
[12:04] <david_J> finn: but dont take my word for it
[12:04] <HardDisk> finn, follow that guide, because gutsy is different to feisty for usb installations.
[12:05] <HardDisk> finn, just follow the guide I posted, it's flawless and works.
[12:05] <finn> ok
[12:05] <david_J> finn: Follow HardDisk ....
[12:05] <david_J> finn: I pretend I know too much
[12:05] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk?
[12:05] <HardDisk> yes, follow me my children.
[12:05] <javaJake_> :P
[12:05] <AciD> I'm trying to follow the wacom bamboo fun tutorial, but it seems the git udev file pointed by the tutorial is on a not rensponding server :/ anybody got that file ?
[12:05] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, what about mint?
[12:05] <finn> :P
[12:05] <david_J> HardDisk: not to hell I hope
[12:05] <HardDisk> :)
[12:05] <simplyubuntu> mint works perfectly
[12:06] <HardDisk> and they are on two seperate harddrives correct?
[12:06] <simplyubuntu> yep correct HardDisk
[12:06] <Berofa> harddisk, no in my ubuntu it's not supported
[12:06] <HardDisk> Berofa, dude it does work, you have to set it up.
[12:07] <Berofa> and when I try to install it by restricted drivers it says: "nvidia-glx-new not installed"
[12:07] <Berofa> How ?
[12:07] <bazhang> Berofa: its just the nvidia rebranded iirc
[12:07] <Berofa> im new
[12:07] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, ok..
[12:07] <finn> thanks all
[12:07] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, and you booted from a livecd, and did the fsck, and getting a bunch of errors...
[12:08] <^A^kira> in #ubuntu-ru
[12:08] <simplyubuntu> the first time i booted it was a normal recovery mode type shell. i first did fsck from there
[12:08] <[1]electro> ntu
[12:08] <HardDisk> dude..
[12:08] <simplyubuntu> now im on a live cd and i cant open a shell in any of the partitions.
[12:08] <HardDisk> you fsck'd while mounted...
[12:08] <HardDisk> never fsck on a mounted drive.
[12:08] <simplyubuntu> that sounds SO wrong
[12:08] <simplyubuntu> :P
[12:09] <simplyubuntu> but anyway
[12:09] <simplyubuntu> i know i know
[12:09] <simplyubuntu> and now all the files from my root partition ar in the lost+found folder
[12:09] <HardDisk> yea well, you could have b0rked because of that.
[12:09] <wols_> simplyubuntu: how the heck did you fsck a live filesystem?
[12:09] <HardDisk> which apparently you did..
[12:09] <wols_> didn't fsck predict doom and gloom all over before you pressed "y"?
[12:10] <simplyubuntu> yes... it did but i didnt know what else to do
[12:10] <wols_> simplyubuntu: have fun reinstalling
[12:10] <bazhang> wow
[12:10] <steffan> Hi, i'm using ubuntu for a while now, and now i have my next problem
[12:10] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk but wait
[12:11] <simplyubuntu> i managed to copy all the debs from the root partition to my home partition
[12:11] <HardDisk> you don't have to reinstall per say
[12:11] <khelll> how to find the java jdk
[12:11] <HardDisk> well the debs aren't that important really.
[12:11] <simplyubuntu> now all i need is the selections list to reistall them on the new install
[12:12] <simplyubuntu> well HardDisk what do you propose?
[12:12] <HardDisk> thinking what's your best option..
[12:12] <steffan> my ubuntu isn't loading very well anymore.. I loads until i see my own background, and some things a loaded(wireless internet icon and the menu, but the menu isn't fully loaded)
[12:12] <simplyubuntu> take your time :)
[12:12] <HardDisk> is the ubuntu a test box?
[12:12] <HardDisk> I mean got anything important in it?
[12:13] <HardDisk> I don't really want to give you the easy answer..
[12:13] <HardDisk> but recovering from corrupted data files manually is a bi*ch
[12:13] <HardDisk> would it be too much trouble if you reinstalled?
[12:14] <simplyubuntu> uh HardDisk all my files are in my home partition so the root partition is free of data
[12:14] <simplyubuntu> the only trouble would be reinstalling all my programs... ive got a DAMN slow interent connection
[12:14] <HardDisk> well in that case, I'd backup your home dir then of your files, and reinstall as wols_ mentioned.  I know it's not what you want to do..
[12:14] <aaaa> hey everyone, is there someone who can help me test the download speed from a vps? I need someone with a rather fast connection...from another server would be perfect :)
[12:14] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, you could have done an aptoncd
[12:15] <simplyubuntu> aptoncd?
[12:15] <HardDisk> basically backs all your debs onto a cd/dvd
[12:15] <simplyubuntu> ah stupid of me
[12:15] <HardDisk> sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[12:15] <simplyubuntu> but i got the deps
[12:15] <simplyubuntu> debs.. but no selections list
[12:15] <simplyubuntu> all i need is that
[12:15] <HardDisk> well if you have the debs..it isn't a problem then.
[12:16] <simplyubuntu> yeah it is because if i just do dpkg -i *.deb then i'll install everything - old and new - bad and good... no?
[12:16] <HardDisk> that part is easy
[12:16] <HardDisk> if you want to do it
[12:16] <kurt> can someone help me with installing lxdoom or prboom
[12:17] <kurt> or know where to get help, cause prboom freezes after 5 seconds
[12:17] <HardDisk> dpkg --get-selections > file
[12:17] <kurt> can i use cnr with kubuntu too ?
[12:17] <bazhang> kurt: see the forums for gaming if you dont get an answer here
[12:17] <HardDisk> then dpkg --set-selections > file on the new installation
[12:18] <HardDisk> then sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[12:18] <HardDisk> that's all you need there buddy
[12:18] <bazhang> kurt: it is beta only--expect breakage
[12:18] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk i know
[12:18] <simplyubuntu> but for some reason, no matter where i try a shell from, i have no dpkg command
[12:19] <simplyubuntu> if i could do that, then i was set
[12:19] <kurt> so you think i better use dosemu with dos doom then ?
[12:19] <HardDisk> how don't you have a dpkg command?
[12:19] <simplyubuntu> and this was a PERFECT feisty install - all the stuff i wanted
[12:19] <bazhang> dosbox
[12:19] <simplyubuntu> dunno
[12:19] <jgoo> to speed up my torrents - do I need to open a port? my downloads are less than half of my uploads... uploading at 100kB/s
[12:19] <fsanlu> hey guys i have an external hd.. (got it from black friday yeah!) anyway, its in ntfs right now with all my files cause ive been using it with windows. my questions are: a) is it possible to convert to something linux can use w/o losing data and b) how do i get linux to read the external hd.. i plugged it in it didnt do anything haha
[12:19] <simplyubuntu> just dont
[12:19] <HardDisk> kurt, there is doom for linux
[12:19] <bazhang> jgoo: www.portforward.com
[12:19] <kurt> i know there is, like lxdoom but i don't manage to get full screen
[12:20] <procvbar> hey guys i got this new laptop and i know its intel 950 graphics
[12:20] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g | fsanlu
[12:20] <ubotu> fsanlu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:20] <procvbar> but ubuntu setup 965
[12:20] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk?
[12:20] <HardDisk> kurt fiddle with the settings.
[12:20] <procvbar> how do i fix it
[12:20] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, yea?
[12:20] <aaaa> anybody with a fast connection that wants to help me test my download speed?
[12:20] <kurt> don't even know how to enter settings
[12:20] <simplyubuntu> anything on the dpkg?
[12:20] <fsanlu> bazhang, if you keep answering my questions i think i might start paying you :]
[12:21] <bazhang> haha
[12:21] <jgoo> thanks bazhang
[12:21] <HardDisk> kurt, other doom ports, http://www.doomworld.com/ports/linux_unix.shtml
[12:21] <fsanlu> ur like all-knowing and just everywhere hehe thanks, ima read up
[12:21] <procvbar> hey guys i got a new laptop and ubuntu installed my graphics as intel 965 but i know the laptop is intel 950 graphics, how do i fix this?
[12:21] <kurt> thanks
[12:21] <HardDisk> aaaa, dslreports.com
[12:22] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, not that I'm aware off, not really much of an ubuntu expert, more rpm suse :)
[12:22] <aaaa> HardDisk, thank you, but what I need is someone to download a file from my server
[12:22]  * Javid has doom on his phone <3
[12:22] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, that's all I know really.
[12:22] <simplyubuntu> ha but you've been a great help anyway
[12:22] <HardDisk> aaaa, why not upload to a public ftp?
[12:22] <simplyubuntu> put my mind at ease you did
[12:22] <HardDisk> sorry bout that mate.
[12:22] <khelll> i have instlled the java jdk, but where shall i find it?
[12:23]  * jgoo has doom on his ipod
[12:23] <simplyubuntu> haha HardDisk i was serious
[12:23] <jgoo> nano
[12:23] <simplyubuntu> jgoo the nano just drives it home, doesnt it?
[12:23] <aaaa> what do you mean? I want to see how fast is that server
[12:23] <HardDisk> thank you jgoo, will make note the next time we have a doom on portable devices debate.
[12:23] <Steffan> Can i change with kde some settings in gnome?
[12:23] <HardDisk> aaaa, yea you can do that by uploading a test file to a public ftp
[12:24] <Steffan> i want to change some appearance settings..'
[12:24] <Steffan> but i cannot load gnome
[12:24] <simplyubuntu> whats the fastest internet transfer speed ever achieved?
[12:24] <bazhang> Steffan: no
[12:24] <HardDisk> a few gigaflops
[12:24] <simplyubuntu> you mean gigabytes per second?
[12:24] <Steffan> gnome hangs at startup...
[12:25] <HardDisk> no
[12:25] <HardDisk> gigaflops
[12:25] <lukewarm_> floating point operations per second
[12:25] <HardDisk> faster than gigabytes
[12:25] <simplyubuntu> how?!?! and why cant we have that???
[12:25] <HardDisk> :)
[12:25] <jgoo> bazhang: I already port forwarded for uTorrent - however, my problem is I cannot work out what application is providing BiTtorrent support on ubuntu - it just says 'BitTorrent (default)' and has no UI except for the actual downloads.... :-/ also, do I need to open a port in the software firewall? (which I assume is running)
[12:25] <HardDisk> because you can't afford it.
[12:25] <HardDisk> shhh lukewarm_
[12:25] <allbert> !kde4 fiesty
[12:25] <fsanlu> mr bazhang, how do i get to read the external hd? thanks for the read/write of the ntfs.. so i plugged in my hd and it still cant read it
[12:25] <lukewarm_> oops
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde4 fiesty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <procvbar> hey guys i got a new laptop and ubuntu installed my graphics as intel 965 but i know the laptop is intel 950 graphics, how do i fix this?
[12:26] <wols_> procvbar: same driver. irrelevant
[12:26] <bazhang> fsanlu: did you install ntfs-3g?
[12:26] <procvbar> ic
[12:26] <fsanlu> bazhang yes i did
[12:26] <procvbar> but why does my screen lag
[12:26] <procvbar> like there is no driver
[12:26] <simplyubuntu> http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/24/new-record-set-for-fastest-data-transmission-2-56-terabits-a/
[12:26] <procvbar> web pages scroll non smooth
[12:26] <wols_> procvbar: what driver do you actaully use?
[12:27] <procvbar> it says
[12:27] <wols_> procvbar: could it be VESA?
[12:27] <HardDisk> do you have compiz enabled?
[12:27] <bazhang> jgoo: open the port necessary then firestarter is a gui for iptables iirc
[12:27] <procvbar> Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:27] <wols_> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:27] <fsanlu> bazhang, is it possible i dont have usb support thats why its plugged in and not reading or mounting at all?
[12:27] <jgoo> simplyubuntu: I got 3 Tb / sec on my ipod nano. Oh wait, no.
[12:27] <bazhang> fsanlu: you need to mount the hdd I believe
[12:27] <fsanlu> bazhang how may i go about doing that
[12:27] <bazhang> !ot | jgoo
[12:27] <ubotu> jgoo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:27] <simplyubuntu> haha jgoo i got that on my digital watch.. take THAT!
[12:27] <jgoo> bazhang: ok I will look thanks, I guess 'service status iptables'
[12:28] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, http://www.geekstuffs.com/2007/09/23/world-fastest-internet-connection/
[12:28] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy fsanlu
[12:28] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk read the comments on the url i sent... do people actually get 100mbps at home?
[12:29] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, according to a few swedes I know, yes.
[12:29] <lukewarm_> The FreeBSD installation process can install FreeBSD from files located in any of the following places:
[12:29] <jgoo> erp, how do I poll if a service is running? I tried service... I guess CentOs != ubuntu ;-)
[12:29] <simplyubuntu> sedes?
[12:29] <simplyubuntu> swedes*
[12:29] <procvbar> http://pastebin.com/m6a38bf98
[12:30] <procvbar> thats my driver
[12:30] <HardDisk> but simplyubuntu my link is consumer based.
[12:30] <HardDisk> what you posted is just in test labs.
[12:30] <HardDisk> 40 gigabits-per-second a DVD in 2 seconds :)
[12:31] <simplyubuntu> true true... so how much would 40gbps run you then?
[12:31] <HardDisk> how should I know, I barely afford 1mbps :D
[12:31] <pac1> HardDisk, Yeah and her monthly internet bill is probably about 30 Skr
[12:31] <jgoo> installing debian-helper-scripts to get 'service' command
[12:31] <pac1> The swedes have always been one step ahead of the phone company.,
[12:31] <HardDisk> pac1, technically yea, since it would be government paid.
[12:32] <simplyubuntu> hehe HardDisk
[12:32] <sirbijan> hello all
[12:32] <m-e-t> hi. anyone here who managed to install ubuntu on an ibook G4? i need some help...
[12:32] <pac1> A few years ago there was a small residential enclave that brought in one of those small trench diggers and put in fiber.  100mbs back before verizon was even thinking about it.
[12:33] <HardDisk> from what I know, swedish broadband, approx 70-80% is paid by the govt, and the consumer pays 20-30%
[12:33] <thesamet> When I share folders in Feisty and make them public, windows still asks for a password for viewing them
[12:33] <thesamet> any hints?
[12:33] <HardDisk> so when a swede tells you 100mbps costs them peanuts, that's why.
[12:33] <[1]electro> hii all merry xmas  :)
[12:33] <cyzie> is x11vnc broken in gutsy?
[12:33] <cyzie> i cant download it
[12:33] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[12:33] <HardDisk> download it? cyzie it should be included
[12:33] <wols_> !ask | m-e-t
[12:33] <ubotu> m-e-t: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:33] <cyzie> HardDisk, cant install using apt-get
[12:33] <simplyubuntu> but what HIGH-TECH equipment do you need to transfer data a 2.whatever tb per sec?
[12:33] <pac1> That's what a 40% tax rate will get you.
[12:33] <HardDisk> oh my bad it isn't included
[12:34] <sirbijan> i have gusty installed, my nvidia driver is installed for compiz as well. The thing is that I can' see my desired resolution (1280*1024) to choose. I also opened up xorg.conf, didn't find anywhere for defining resolutions
[12:34] <HardDisk> cyzie, tried aptitude?
[12:34] <sirbijan> sorry to interrupt ppl!
[12:34] <cyzie> HardDisk, what does that make any difference?
[12:34] <[1]electro> i need some help ... i am behind a firewall and i need proxy authentication to connect to the net.....then i can i be anonymous?? whatever tools i use asks me to change my proxy but if i do so then i won't be aauthenticated to connect to the net
[12:34] <m-e-t> i need a driver for a broadcom 4318 wireless card (which is an AirPort). does ubuntu support them out of the box?
[12:34] <HardDisk> cyzie, just tried, sudo apt-get install x11vnc does work
[12:35] <HardDisk> do you have your repositories enabled?
[12:35] <wols_> !tell sirbijan about fixres
[12:35] <cyzie> HardDisk, doesnt work here.
[12:35] <wols_> !bcm43xx
[12:35] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:35] <neumind> how to erace dvd disk on ubuntu?
[12:35] <wols_> m-e-t: and it can't support it out of the box: non-free firmware
[12:35] <HardDisk> enable all five in your sources list, then sudo apt-get update
[12:36] <sirbijan> thanks wols_
[12:36] <wols_> !fixres | sirbijan
[12:36] <ubotu> sirbijan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:37] <sirbijan> another question, anywhere I can find some s*xy red Gnome styles?!
[12:37] <HardDisk> neumind, use k3b, gnomebaker or brasero
[12:37] <HardDisk> sirbijan, gnome-look.org
[12:37] <HardDisk> I should rename myself to google.
[12:38] <lukewarm_> HardDisk, except then you'd be able to afford 1mbps
[12:38] <HardDisk> lol
[12:38] <HardDisk> touche :)
[12:38] <HardDisk> at least some people are paying attention..
[12:38] <tiburon> lklk
[12:39] <HardDisk> it's those that do pay attention to detail that are the interesting ones.
[12:39] <HardDisk> don't you agree?
[12:40] <fsanlu> bazhang, i read up on that and it didnt tell me how to. only  mounting it had was mounting on  a server
[12:40]  * lukewarm_ snaps out of it. Huh what were you saying?
[12:40] <pac1> printer troubles: hpijs cups and foomatic are installed, but I can't start foomatic - asks for password then does not come up in window.  New ubuntu install, upgraded to latest.... Any Ideas on what to try?
[12:40] <neumind> HardDisk,  witch gnomebaker need push button format dvd ?
[12:41] <HardDisk> neumind, why not try em yourself, I don't do handholding sorry.
[12:41] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk is it possible to get a list of my packages from the mint install?
[12:41] <neumind> HardDisk,  gnomebaker not formating..
[12:42] <wols_> neumind: you don't format optical media
[12:42] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk?
[12:43] <Bonzodog> simplyubuntu: doesn't mint use Synaptic?
[12:44] <Bonzodog> Synaptic can give you a list of all installed packages
[12:44] <thesamet> When I share folders in Gutsy and make them public, windows still asks for a password for viewing them
[12:44] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, same commands.
[12:44] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, since mint is ubuntu modded.
[12:44] <simplyubuntu> Bonzodog its a long story.. my mint install screwed up my ubuntu install and i want to get a list of the packages installed in ubuntu from ming
[12:44] <simplyubuntu> moint
[12:44] <Andeh> Hi. How do I get Croatian spellchecking in OpenOffice?
[12:45] <HardDisk> Bonzodog, no not that method we're doing dpkg
[12:45] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk, a list of my UBUNTU packages from mint.... kooky i know
[12:45] <GHOST> hey there
[12:45] <HardDisk> you do the same for mint..
[12:46] <HardDisk> Andeh, http://support.openoffice.org/index.html
[12:46] <Bonzodog> HardDisk: no, I get whats he's saying...he's in Mint, but need to see his ubuntu install package list
[12:46] <HardDisk> yea
[12:46] <GHOST> Andeh i think u have to download the croatian package language with synaptic
[12:46] <Bonzodog> thats not possible if not booted into ubuntu
[12:47] <HardDisk> ah my bad
[12:47] <HardDisk> misunderstanding there
[12:47] <Bonzodog> unless you looks at /var/packages (??)
[12:47] <Bonzodog> there is a package cache in ubuntu
[12:47] <cyzie> HardDisk, why used aptitude for?
[12:48] <cyzie> HardDisk, isnt apt-get is easier?
[12:48] <HardDisk> just another alternative to apt-get
[12:48] <HardDisk> I use apt-get, some like aptitude
[12:48] <Bonzodog> if he can see the ubuntu directories, he could browse to the cache and just look using a file manager or ls
[12:48] <cyzie> HardDisk, but that doenst solve the issue.
[12:48] <HardDisk> but did you enable the repo's as I told you?
[12:48] <cyzie> what repo?
[12:48] <HardDisk> and what is the error?
[12:48] <HardDisk> see you don't read
[12:48] <simplyubuntu> Bonzodog i can browse to the cache
[12:48] <simplyubuntu> ive even copied the debs
[12:49] <cyzie> HardDisk, u mean the main, multiuniverse repo ?
[12:49] <HardDisk> enable all five in your sources list, then sudo apt-get update
[12:49] <cyzie> HardDisk, yes, all enabled.
[12:49] <simplyubuntu> all i need is the install list to tell me new install what and what not to install
[12:49] <simplyubuntu> know what i mean?
[12:49] <HardDisk> so what's the error?
[12:49] <simplyubuntu> Bonzodog?
[12:49] <ares623> hello.
[12:49] <GHOST> hi
[12:49] <Bonzodog> simplyubuntu: unless booted into ubuntu, thats not possible
[12:50] <Andeh> Question: I run Xubuntu and just installed OpenOffice. It's using a hideous Windows 9X like theme, and enormous fonts. How do I change that?
[12:50] <ares623> i am trying to install Windows XP using QEmu
[12:50] <geoaxis> can any one recomend an easy to use website downloader
[12:50] <ares623> i am following this tutorial..
[12:50] <simplyubuntu> ok HardDisk can we get the ubuntu working for ONE time only?
[12:50] <ares623> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:50] <HardDisk> geoaxis, use firefox's plugin downthemall
[12:50] <likewise> My updater run of 7.10/x86 yesterday (which included a new kernel) breaks my desktop; the menu bar is gone and the window manager is broken. I had Compiz disabled. Sound familiar to anyone?
[12:50] <GHOST> Andeh you can also use abiword for xubuntu like me ;)
[12:50] <cyzie> HardDisk, pasted in private
[12:50] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, possible, but personally I don't know what the extent of the damage is
[12:51] <HardDisk> cyzie, why'd you paste in private, that's what pastebin is for.
[12:51] <simplyubuntu> what do you need to know?
[12:51] <ares623> I am trying to install Windows XP virtually using QEmu. I am following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:51] <ares623> I need some guidance :)
[12:51] <cyzie> HardDisk, link ?
[12:51] <HardDisk> I work poorly remotely..
[12:51] <HardDisk> cyzie, topic ^^
[12:51] <GHOST> lol
[12:51] <Andeh> GHOST: Heh. Okay then, my friend is a journalist in Croatia and needs any word processor that has croatian spellcheck support. I already installed the spellcheck support packages, will Abiword know how to use them? Cause his laptop is rather low end, I dont want to run OO unless I have to.
[12:51] <HardDisk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:51] <Bonzodog> ares623: you don't understand the tutorial?
[12:51] <simplyubuntu> ah should i fsck it and dpkg -i *.deb on the new install?
[12:52] <Lunks> Can I see PDFs from Firefox without installing Adobe PDF Reader?
[12:52] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, well..it's not what I would do to be quite honest, you could and any dependancies will be asked for.
[12:52] <cyzie> HardDisk, but do you have solution for that or u just like to paste it in pastebin ?
[12:52] <HardDisk> cyzie, it's the rules.
[12:52] <simplyubuntu> ok so what do you recommend?
[12:52] <ares623> at step 10, when creating the virtual drive, i get a formatting error
[12:52] <cyzie> HardDisk, alright. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49528/
[12:52] <simplyubuntu> the final verdict...
[12:52] <cyzie> HardDisk, then have a look there..
[12:53] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, install ubuntu, then before you install the debs, I'd cross reference for updated ones.
[12:53] <HardDisk> gutsy updated ones obviously.
[12:53] <Bonzodog> ares623: you might be best asking this one on the forums
[12:53] <simplyubuntu> sounds complicated... how would i do that?
[12:53] <GHOST> Andeh Its okay  abiword can easily translate most of european language like openoffice
[12:53] <HardDisk> cyzie, I'm not being ass, it's the rules, so anyone can see it and help you, I'm not god
[12:53] <ares623> oh ok. thanks Bonzodog
[12:53] <GHOST> Andeh Its okay  abiword can easily translate most of european language like openoffice
[12:53] <GHOST> Andeh Its okay  abiword can easily translate most of european language like openoffice
[12:53] <cyzie> HardDisk, very well, but it is pasted in the pastebin.
[12:53] <GHOST> uopz sry :s
[12:54] <Andeh> lol
[12:54] <GHOST> lol
[12:54] <fsanlu> for some reason i can see my external hd in "computer" but it keeps telling me "cannot mount" :(
[12:54] <GHOST> i didnt sleep yesterday!
[12:54] <cyzie> fsanlu, why not ?
[12:54] <HardDisk> cyzie, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:54] <cyzie> HardDisk, gutsy
[12:54] <HardDisk> you positive?
[12:54] <fsanlu> czyie i do not know. it jus says "cannot mount" wen i try to mount it
[12:54] <HardDisk> cyzie, was this an upgrade?
[12:54] <Lilacor> fsanlu: what kind of error does it give you? just cannot mount?
[12:54] <cyzie> fsanlu, mount it as root. u have the go there
[12:54] <Andeh> GHOST: Question: The laptop in question is retarded. The cd drive is so old, it makes errors reading perfectly clean disks and I failed installing Windows, Linux or anything else. Help?
[12:54] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk! anticipation!!!!
[12:54] <cyzie> HardDisk, yes.
[12:55] <fsanlu> Lilacor, yes it just says cannot mount
[12:55] <fsanlu> "Cannot mount volume" Unable to mount frank media
[12:55] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu,  I picked the easiest solution for you.
[12:55] <simplyubuntu> yep yep but how to cross ref?
[12:55] <fsanlu> cyzie how do i go about doing that?
[12:55] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, basically by going to the repositories themselves.
[12:56] <HardDisk> cyzie, you got broken packages
[12:56] <HardDisk> cyzie, sudo apt-get install -f
[12:56] <HardDisk> and tell me what you get
[12:56] <simplyubuntu> aargh sounds like it would take ages... there are 161 packages
[12:56] <Andeh> GHOST: Also, how do I get Abiword to spellcheck croatian? The spellcheck option is grayed out even for english!
[12:56] <GHOST> Andeh hum i think you can use a usb key to install or try with downloading
[12:57] <Andeh> GHOST: Lol...
[12:57] <Lilacor> fsanlu: use gksudo nautilus and then try to mount it
[12:57] <GHOST> Andeh wait i searchin 4 u in synaptic
[12:57] <sirbijan> I installed Emerald Theme Manager, I can run it and I also imported a theme from gnome-look.org, but it doesn't change nothing! It doesn't have any apply button or anything
[12:57] <Andeh> Thanks :P
[12:57] <sirbijan> how can I change my theme?!
[12:57] <GHOST> Andeh lol
[12:57] <fsanlu> hold on
[12:58] <Andeh> GHOST: I am scanning the Xubuntu CD for defects
[12:58] <GHOST> Andeh ok
[12:58] <Andeh> To make sure it's not my retarded laptops fault
[12:58] <Andeh> ;p
[12:58] <HardDisk> Andeh, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-l10n-  and find out your country language
[12:58] <GHOST> Andeh yep
[12:58] <HardDisk> e.g. openoffice.org2-l10n-de for german
[12:59] <Andeh> GHOST: openoffice.org-l10n-hr is already the newest version.
[12:59] <HardDisk> -fr for french
[12:59] <Andeh> Now how I get Abiword to use it?
[12:59] <goticaa> Hey, i can't seam to get my ubuntu 7.10 to update itselv
[12:59] <goticaa> self*
[12:59] <GHOST> Andeh sry but i dontuse open office :s
[12:59] <goticaa> i just installed it from a original cd
[12:59] <HardDisk> did you do openoffice.org2-thesaurus- ?
[13:00] <Andeh> GHOST: Neither do I. I use Abiword. But how do i get Abiword to spellcheck croatian?
[13:00] <HardDisk> and openoffice.org-l10n-hr
[13:00] <HardDisk> you have to have those too
[13:00] <GHOST> Andehwait im searchin...
[13:00] <fsanlu> I GOT IT TO WORK! yes..
[13:00] <cyzie> HardDisk, try the -f before, wont work.
[13:00] <sulle> I have sound in xmms but not when i play of a movie. Yes the movie does work... what can i do ?
[13:00] <HardDisk> and openoffice.org-spellcheck-
[13:00] <Andeh> Package openoffice.org2-thesaurus-hr is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[13:01] <HardDisk> cyzie, what is the error when you did that? cause it seems you have other issues
[13:01] <Andeh> E: Package openoffice.org2-thesaurus-hr has no installation candidate
[13:01] <GHOST> Andeh i think theres no languages support for abiword
[13:01] <sulle> message Could not open/initalize audio device -> no sound....
[13:01] <cyzie> HardDisk, the error pasted in pastebin.
[13:01] <sulle> but i got sound in xmms.
[13:01] <ares623> VMWare Server is free right? what does the "Server" suffix mean?
[13:01] <cyzie> HardDisk, what other issue are you talking ?
[13:01] <Andeh> GHOST: So I am stuck with OO. Now how do I get OO to use croatian spellcheck?
[13:01] <ares623> will I be able to run Windows without Server stuff?
[13:02] <GHOST> Andeh im searchin for u
[13:02] <Andeh> ;p
[13:02] <GHOST> Andeh lol
[13:02] <sulle> message Could not open/initalize audio device -> no sound... but i got sound in xmms etc. what is the solution for this?.
[13:02] <HardDisk> cyzie, sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:02] <GHOST> Andeh normally u should be able to find it...
[13:02] <Andeh> D:<<<<
[13:03] <Andeh> STUPID LAPTOP!
[13:03] <HardDisk> cyzie, then run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:03] <GHOST> Andeh lol!
[13:03] <Andeh> It gets 95% through installing Xubuntu. "Disk read error. Aborting setup"
[13:03] <HardDisk> !sound | sulle
[13:03] <ubotu> sulle: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:03] <jingjing95>  iam form thailand
[13:03] <GHOST> Andeh lol i found slovak polish norvegian!
[13:03] <Andeh> Lol
[13:03] <Andeh> No.
[13:03] <sulle> !players
[13:03] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[13:04] <Andeh> I need croatian.
[13:04] <Andeh> And possibly one of your old laptops.
[13:04] <GHOST> Andeh okay
[13:04] <cyzie> yes, HardDisk did that as well, HardDisk why do the cp for?
[13:04] <Lilacor> fsanlu: what worked?
[13:04] <cyzie> did before, dpkg --cofigure -a and then run the apt-get install -f x11vnc, wont work either.
[13:04] <GHOST> Andeh i cant find it :(
[13:04] <jingjing95> http://www.ubuntuclub.com   < theclub of ubuntu thailand
[13:05] <vishal> Merry Christmas Everyone
[13:05] <Lilacor> merry christmas
[13:05] <GHOST> Andeh that sux
[13:05] <Andeh> So I'm stuck with windows, which wont even install?
[13:05] <Steffan> Hi, i've reanimated my gnome, but now my desktop icons are gone, and i cannot load the file browser
[13:05] <GHOST> Andeh that wow uzbek one lol
[13:05] <Andeh> ?
[13:05] <_Pengo> hey guys, i installed ubuntu and need to su into root, but i was never prompted to set a root password during setup off the livecd
[13:05] <Steffan> vishal, thank you too!
[13:05] <_Pengo> whats the root password set to ?
[13:06] <Andeh> GHOST: Dude, I installed Croatian spellcheck packages. BUT HOW DO I GET OO TO USE THEM?!
[13:06] <GHOST> Andeh i think there crotian language but im searnin one the net!
[13:06] <vishal> does anyone know if its possible to show transfer speed on the file copy dialogue?
[13:06] <Steffan> _Pengo, use your onw pass
[13:06] <Steffan> it should work
[13:06] <_Pengo> i tried that
[13:06] <GHOST> Andeh lol
[13:06] <Andeh> GHOST: I don't need the packs, I need someone who knows how to enable them!
[13:06] <GHOST> Andeh i dont now ;)
[13:06] <Andeh> D:<<
[13:06] <Steffan> just use sudo -i
[13:06] <larson9999> _Pengo ubuntu uses sudo normally.  not su.  i thought it sucked at first but now i think it's better.
[13:07] <_Pengo> i tried the password for my ubuntu account that it setup
[13:07] <GHOST> Andeh anyone help!
[13:07] <_Pengo> btw whats up with flashplayer, it don't work from synaptic
[13:07] <vishal> _Pengo: have you tried a blank password?
[13:07] <_Pengo> md5 mismatch
[13:07] <_Pengo> yah i tried enter
[13:07] <_Pengo> no good either
[13:07] <HardDisk> cyzie, I assume your dpkg status is corrupted from your message, hence the command I told you to do afterwards
[13:07] <HardDisk> cyzie, then run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:08] <GHOST> Andeh take a look http://manual.sidux.com/meta-manual/en/mp-l-language-en.htm
[13:08] <vishal> _Pengo: as far a I know the root password is the same as your user password
[13:08] <fsanlu> Lilacor it was just unmounter improperly when i had windows... -__-
[13:08] <_Pengo> i'm just trying to get the flashplayer installed so i can view flash content in firefox, synaptic fails to install it so i've downloaded the rpm from the website and now need to install that but need su rights
[13:08] <soroush> i once tried to  install java-doc-5 and java-doc-6 from synaptic y last installation was like this in synaptictand it failed But I still see those errors since that installation during each installation. What the problem can be. for example m
[13:08] <cyzie> HardDisk, alright./
[13:08] <fsanlu> Lilacor i guess i learned my lesson the hard way, but thanks for the input.
[13:08] <vishal> _Pengo: can't you use sudo?
[13:08] <larson9999> _Pengo read the topic
[13:08] <Andeh> Ah, another question: Firefox told me I need additional plugins to view flash content, so I told it to install them. It did. Then it said i still need additional plugins, and when it tries to install I get a message telling me I already have them. Help?
[13:09] <Lilacor> fsanlu: it's handy to have a win32 VM around just for that purpose
[13:09] <soroush> my last installation was like this in synaptic
[13:09] <cyzie> HardDisk, same error.
[13:09] <Steffan> how do i run nautilus at startup, i think it isn't running
[13:09] <vishal> Andeh: Which plugin did you install?
[13:09] <Andeh> GHOST: I told you, I already installed them.
[13:09] <ares623> quick question: Can I play 3D games on VMWare?
[13:09] <Andeh> When you choose to install the croatian spellcheck, it installs ALL OF THEM.
[13:09] <_Pengo> oh right thanks
[13:09] <fsanlu> Lilacor yes i see the importance in that. im glad im at hoem where the rest of my family has windows lol
[13:09] <Lilacor> ares623: yes but on a very limited and experimental basis
[13:09] <Steffan> hmm, it does run
[13:09] <larson9999> Andeh, read the topic
[13:09] <Andeh> ares623: Yeah, really slowly
[13:09] <soroush>  i once tried to  install java-doc-5 and java-doc-6 from synaptic and it failed But I still see those errors since that installation during each installation. What the problem can be. for example
[13:10] <HardDisk> ares623, no.
[13:10] <vishal> ares623: you can but it probably will be very slow so now worth it, try dual booting
[13:10] <ares623> ah ok. but the game isn't really that graphics heavy
[13:10] <ares623> i think
[13:10] <Lilacor> ares623: what game?
[13:10] <_Pengo> i guess i called use sudo
[13:10] <ares623> some MMORPG. my brother plays it a lot
[13:10] <HardDisk> can't do directx
[13:10] <Andeh> larson9999: Tell it to #Openoffice.org
[13:10] <soroush>   i once tried to  install java-doc-5 and java-doc-6 from synaptic and it failed But I still see those errors since that installation during each installation. What the problem can be. for example my last installation was like this in synaptic
[13:10] <ares623> but i'm not switching to Windows for it
[13:10] <_Pengo> but then, i should still be allowed to go su on my own system right?
[13:10] <HardDisk> ares623, you're better off doing it in wine first.
[13:10] <soroush> :
[13:10] <ares623> :P
[13:10] <GHOST> Andeh sry i dont now :(
[13:10] <vishal> ares623: try wine?
[13:10] <Andeh> larson9999: They seem to be in deep sleep.
[13:10] <ares623> tried wine.. doesn't run
[13:11] <HardDisk> cedega?
[13:11] <Lilacor> ares623: you might be able to use cedega
[13:11] <soroush> http://www.nopaste.com/p/ajiiNhx7A
[13:11] <Andeh> Meh. It shouldn't be this hard.
[13:11] <GHOST> cant find nothin
[13:11] <ares623> what is that?
[13:11] <Lilacor> ares623: try using vmware with experimental 3d
[13:11] <GHOST> Andeh yea
[13:11] <HardDisk> commercial version of wine
[13:11] <Lilacor> ares623: cedega is commercialized wine
[13:11] <HardDisk> !cedega
[13:11] <chazco> Hi... any one know why creating a .tar.gz of a 20MB directory tree leads to a 300MB+ file...?
[13:11] <ares623> so not free?
[13:11] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[13:11] <larson9999> Andeh, are you talking about the flash issue?
[13:11] <Andeh> So can someone at least tell me how I can configure GNOME programs to NOT USE ENORMOUS FONT SIZES? I am running Xubuntu.
[13:11] <soroush> it always waits me to abort java-doc-5 and 6 installation
[13:11] <ares623> i'm looking for something free. VMWare Server/Player is free I heard.
[13:11] <GHOST> Andeh mayby there a channel for openoffice user
[13:11] <HardDisk> ares623, and virtualbox.
[13:11] <Andeh> GHOST: Yeah there is. Everybody in it is dead though.
[13:12] <GHOST> lol
[13:12] <Lilacor> ares623: yes..so long as you have the VM already it's easy!
[13:12] <ares623> virtualbox doesn't even try using the videocard
[13:12] <ares623> so no luck there.
[13:12] <vishal> Andeh: go to youtube, when viewing a video it will want you to install a plugin, install the adobe flah plugin and it should work
[13:12] <GHOST> Andeh try "OpenOffice.org For Dummies"
[13:12] <HardDisk> don't see the point of playing games in vmware, since they are workstation applications.
[13:12] <Lilacor> ares623: I'd recommend a dual boot for that.
[13:12] <larson9999> i say, "if you can't get your game on in linux, you have priority issues."
[13:12] <HardDisk> if you want games, play it natively.
[13:12] <Andeh> vishal: I already HAVE flash installed, each time firefox prompts me to install it, I get an error telling me I have it already.
[13:13] <vishal> Andeh: Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling?
[13:13] <Andeh> But no flash content works, I get a big white box ADDITIONAL PLUGINS NEEDED.
[13:13] <HardDisk> as lilacor said, dualboot.
[13:13] <Andeh> vishal: No. What package do i need to reinstall?
[13:13] <GHOST> Andeh i got the same prob
[13:13] <HardDisk> or use a native alternative.
[13:13] <HardDisk> hundreds of mmporg's out there
[13:13] <Lilacor> each one just as endless as the last
[13:13] <vishal> Andeh: When I tried to use flash, i install the adobe flash plugin and it works without any problems
[13:14] <HardDisk> agreed Lilacor
[13:14] <Andeh> GHOST: Heh. Support in this channel is getting worse and worse.
[13:14] <larson9999> and... if you want more linux games, play and buy only linux games.  kinda simple
[13:14] <ares623> Dual Boot seems to be the best option huh.. maybe I'll just limit it to 5GB
[13:14] <ares623> why didn't i think of that
[13:14] <ares623> same thing essentialy
[13:14] <ares623> thanks guys.. dualboot seems good
[13:14] <ares623> :)
[13:14] <HardDisk> Andeh, this is voluntary, if you don't like it leave.
[13:14] <Lilacor> ares623: I'd stick with 10GB
[13:14] <GHOST> Andeh this because of xmas :)
[13:14] <Lilacor> ares623: you'll get screwed on space if you go for 5
[13:14] <HardDisk> Andeh, no one is being paid to help.
[13:14] <larson9999> Andeh, are you trying to use flash in firefox?
[13:14] <GHOST> wait im serching!
[13:14] <vishal> ares623: you;d need at least 10gb
[13:14] <HardDisk> so appreciate it, say thank you, and merry effing xmas
[13:15] <ares623> I have tremulous installed. not great. lol.. Nexuiz is what i'm gonna try next
[13:15] <ares623> hate MMO's
[13:15] <soroush> I don't want to install sun-java6-doc  sun-java5-doc
[13:15] <ares623> ok. 10GB sounds good
[13:15] <soroush> anymore
[13:15] <soroush> how should i get rid of
[13:15] <HardDisk> ares623, gridwars, alien arena, urban terror, enemy territory, warsow, tonnes more :)
[13:15] <ares623> just don't want to give too much space
[13:15] <Andeh> larson9999: Yes, and trying to find someone who knows how to enable spellchecking in OO.
[13:15] <likewise> How can I repair my desktop? I can only get into the terminal session correctly...
[13:15] <soroush> such these permenant messages
[13:15] <ares623> tried enemy territory, too hard to join a game
[13:16] <soroush> http://www.nopaste.com/p/ajiiNhx7A
[13:16] <ares623> hehe
[13:16] <soroush> ?
[13:16] <Andeh> HardDisk: Good thing, that.
[13:16] <HardDisk> likewise, dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:16] <w4ett> soroush:  uninstal via apt-get
[13:16] <ares623> yeah gridwars.. i played that. f'ing awesome
[13:16] <vishal> Enemy territory rocks
[13:16] <GHOST> YEA!
[13:16] <Lilacor> Andeh: have you tried #openoffice?
[13:16] <likewise> HardDisk: thanks, will try that.
[13:16] <vishal> Its an awesome game
[13:16] <HardDisk> sudo first.
[13:16] <Andeh> lilacor: Yes. And #Openoffice.org
[13:16] <Andeh> They're all dead.
[13:16] <larson9999> Andeh, as i said, the topic addresses flash.  don't know about spell checker.  has always been enable for me.
[13:16] <GHOST> nobody answer :(
[13:17] <Andeh> larson9999: In croatian?
[13:17] <ares623> i keep getting disconnected while joining games
[13:17] <ares623> keeps downloading stuff and never finishes
[13:17] <ares623> :)
[13:17] <Andeh> Sure.
[13:17] <GHOST> lol
[13:17] <Lilacor> Andeh: what's the problem with flash? I visit a site with flash, it asks me to install the plugin..It installs automatically
[13:17] <w4ett> soroush:  sudo apt-get remove <package>
[13:17] <vishal> ares623 yeah lots of people put junk on their servers, come at play at my server
[13:17] <vishal> ares623: visit www.bcclan.com and the ip address is at the top
[13:17] <Lilacor> Andeh: it shouild be pointed out that not all functions within flash work 100% with the linux version of flash unfortunately
[13:17] <Andeh> Lilacor: Same thing, Except then it says I dont have flash installed, asks me to install it again. When I do that, It gives me an error, It says I already HAVE flash.
[13:17] <soroush> w4ett, thanks . ii'll test it now
[13:17] <ares623> vishal thanks.. I think i might have low ping though
[13:17] <ares623> is that ok?
[13:18] <w4ett> soro np
[13:18] <GHOST> Andeh mayby try an other web browser like epiphany or konqueror
[13:18] <Andeh> Lilacor: I alro tried GNASH, and that worked. Although youtube videos are totally screwed up.
[13:18] <_Pengo> ok my password works if i install stuff and it needs admin privledges i guess its doing sudo
[13:18] <Lilacor> Andeh: what browser?
[13:18] <larson9999> Andeh, i think i'm getting a hint on why support for you is so poor in here.
[13:18] <_Pengo> but if i try to su it doesn't accept the same password
[13:18] <Andeh> Lilacor: Firefox.
[13:18] <Lilacor> Andeh: just firefox?
[13:18] <vishal> ares623: the lower the ping the better, the server is somewhere in america, i think chicago or something
[13:18] <Lilacor> Andeh: 3b2? or just 2.0.0.11?
[13:18] <Andeh> Yes. Just firefox.
[13:18] <ares623> i mean i think i have HIGH ping
[13:18] <GHOST> Andeh i have the same prob with firefox
[13:18] <ares623> hehe
[13:18] <Andeh> 2.0.0.11
[13:18] <vishal> ares623: i ping approx 130 on there
[13:18] <Andeh> larson9999: Um. Why is support for me so poor in here?
[13:19] <vishal> ares623: as long as your not over 300 you should be fine
[13:19] <GHOST> hey its holidays!
[13:19] <ares623> ok.. so how do I connect to a specific IP address in et?
[13:19] <Andeh> Lol. The GNASH player is horrible :D
[13:19] <vishal> ares623: and if you dont warp around then its even better, where abouts are you from?
[13:19] <Lilacor> Andeh: it's late in the country where the largest userbase is
[13:19] <larson9999> Andeh how are you installing flash?
[13:19] <GHOST> yep
[13:19] <Lilacor> Andeh: well..actually very early for most of us
[13:19] <Andeh> larson9999: Through firefox.
[13:19] <ares623> i'm halfway across the world. Philippines
[13:20] <ares623> it's xmas here btw..
[13:20] <_Pengo> andeh: that doesn't work
[13:20] <GHOST> im french!
[13:20] <ares623> merry xmas everyone!
[13:20] <larson9999> Andeh, like i said READ THJS CHANNEL'S TOPIC
[13:20] <GHOST> ;)
[13:20] <Lilacor> Andeh: have you uninstalled flash?
[13:20] <w4ett> Andeh: Christmas morning here in North America...sun is just rising
[13:20] <_Pengo> where it autodownloads flash from it fails the md5sum check
[13:20] <vishal> ares623: when you load then game and get into the main menu, press the "`" key, its on the left of number  1 to bring up the console, and the type in /connect ,IP.#
[13:20] <Andeh> larson9999: This is the ubuntu support channel. Firefox installing flash works everywhere, except on ubuntu. Ubuntu problem.
[13:20] <Lilacor> Andeh: "Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash "
[13:21] <vishal> ares623: oops, its /connect <IP>     so /connect et.bcclan.com
[13:21] <Andeh> Lilacor: Yes, and reinstalled it. Then suddenly GNASH started working, if you can call what it does "working".
[13:21] <ares623> ah ok
[13:21] <GHOST> Andeh       sudo apt_get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[13:21] <ares623> thanks
[13:21] <Andeh> :P
[13:21] <ares623> i'll try it right now
[13:21] <ares623> :)
[13:21] <vishal> ares623: you'll have a few downloads but not that many
[13:21] <larson9999> Andeh, the topic addresses the flash issue in plain english: Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash »
[13:21] <Andeh> GHOST: I told you already. I have it installed, yet firefox thinks I don't.
[13:21] <vishal> ares623: only one that might scare you is a 20mb file but its an awesome map
[13:21] <Andeh> larson: Oh. My screen doesnt go that far.
[13:21] <_Pengo> andeh: you don't have it installed
[13:22] <vishal> ares623: hopefully the server isnt empty,
[13:22] <Andeh> _Pengo: Meh.
[13:22] <_Pengo> andeh: if you are downloading it via synaptic or via firefox
[13:22] <_Pengo> it will download it, run a md5sum check and it will faill but the system thinks its installed but it is not
[13:22] <Andeh> _Pengo: Well i tried adobe.com, the RPM, and that didnt work either.
[13:22] <Andeh> Hmm.
[13:22] <Andeh> Thanks then.
[13:22] <Lilacor> Andeh: I'd use the straight tar ball
[13:22] <GHOST> Andeh    get plugin via firefox extentions
[13:22] <vishal> ares623: there is one person online so you should be ok, especial when your getting used to the game
[13:22] <larson9999> Andeh, and you don't know irc enough to show the topic?  why not ask how to read the topic when i suggested you read the topic repeatedly?
[13:22] <Andeh> Lilacor: The what?
[13:23] <Lilacor> Andeh: tar.gz file
[13:23] <GHOST> tar.gz for ubuntu
[13:23] <vishal> Does anyone know how to get the file transfer speed on the file copy dialogue?
[13:23] <_Pengo> lilacor: how will the tar file know where to install the plugin?
[13:23] <GHOST> rpm is for mandriva
[13:23] <Andeh> larson9999: I have a 24 inch monitor at font size 8 and the topic still doesnt fit in the screen. There is no way to show the rest except reszing and moving the window several times, which is so stupid i didnt think of it immediately.
[13:23] <Lilacor> _Pengo: it doesn't - you read the README file and then install it yourself.
[13:23] <_Pengo> great
[13:23] <Andeh> lol
[13:24] <_Pengo> that means editing files
[13:24] <_Pengo> so much easier on windows
[13:24] <_Pengo> :P
[13:24] <Andeh> Um, why doesn't someone make an update that fixes it?
[13:24] <larson9999> Andeh, asking over and over how to fix something that's addressed in a channel's topic doesn't win points when asking for help :)
[13:24] <Andeh> larson9999: :) :)
[13:24] <GHOST> ;)
[13:24] <Andeh> D:
[13:24] <GHOST> O.0
[13:24] <Lilacor> _Pengo: nobody is forcing you to use Ubuntu.
[13:24] <_Pengo> thats the spirit
[13:24] <Andeh> Lilacor: Windows is :)
[13:24] <_Pengo> :|
[13:24] <GHOST> TRY DESKTOP BSD
[13:25] <Andeh> This room is now officially awesome.
[13:25] <GHOST> lol
[13:25] <_Pengo> i just want to it work, i expect more from linux
[13:25] <RebateFX> hehe
[13:25] <Myrtti> *krhm*
[13:25] <Lilacor> _Pengo: Linux is still very young as a desktop OS, please understand that and be patient with its associated fits and conniptions.
[13:25] <Andeh> _Pengo: Ah, at last. Someone I can ask. How do i enable spellchecking in another language in OO? I already installed the spellcheck packages, now how do I get OO to USE them?
[13:25] <RebateFX> Does anyone know how to get xchat to make a noise when someone posts a message? I host a quiet room and I need an alert when someone speaks lol
[13:26] <GHOST> freebsd since 1970
[13:26] <Andeh> Lilacor: Yeah, only 17 years old D:
[13:26] <Slart> RebateFX: isn't there some kind of notification-preferences?
[13:26] <GHOST> lol
[13:26] <vishal> RebateFX: go to preference and then plugins, enable the sound notificaton and then restart
[13:26] <Lilacor> RebateFX: configured the plugins and you should get a notification when someone messages you.
[13:26] <Lunks> How to set up GPG keys on Ubuntu?
[13:26] <Andeh> So, has nobody here EVER used OO in another language?
[13:27] <Andeh> Shocking!
[13:27] <GHOST> only on windows :p
[13:27] <Lunks> Andeh: Hmm I use.
[13:27] <RebateFX> Slart, vishal, Lilacor. Thanks. I did that, but I mean for general chat messages. My PC should be beeping like mad in a room like this one :)
[13:27] <Lilacor> Andeh: 2007 was the year when Linux as a desktop OS really came into view.
[13:27] <Andeh> lilacor: It was 2006 for me :P
[13:27] <GHOST> yup
[13:27] <Lunks> Andeh: let me see what I do. :P
[13:27] <Andeh> And coming from a 13 year old, that means a lot :P
[13:27] <larson9999> 1997 for me
[13:27] <Andeh> heh
[13:27] <GHOST> 2007
[13:27] <vishal> RebateFX: so you want it to beep for every message sent in the channel?
[13:28] <Andeh> RebateFX: Get a cat.
[13:28] <tmjb> hello has any sucesfuly installed ubuntu 6.0.6.1 LTS dapper ony GA-P35-DS4 ?
[13:28] <RebateFX> vishal: yes :)
[13:28] <RebateFX> lol @ andeh
[13:28] <Lunks> Andeh: You just want to add another language for spellchecker other than English, right?
[13:28] <Andeh> RebateFX: If I remember right, cats go "BEEeeeEeP" right?
[13:28] <wols_> tmjb: what kernel version does your dapper se?
[13:28] <Andeh> Lunks: Yes
[13:28] <wols_> *use
[13:28] <GHOST> gotta play games cya :)
[13:28] <Andeh> Lol
[13:28] <Andeh> Byezs
[13:28] <confuded> Hi folks.
[13:28] <GHOST> lol
[13:28] <Lilacor> most people still don't know about the existence of linux but that is changing as major vendors are picking up the OS for various uses.
[13:29] <larson9999> i say try to many of the freely available things you can do in linux in windows and it doesn't take long before one realizes it's windows that's a pain.
[13:29] <HardDisk> Lilacor, you mean ubuntu
[13:29] <RebateFX> Andeh: They do if you make them eat a telephone
[13:29] <_Pengo> Andeh: i don't use OO I just use Google's office apps.
[13:29] <vishal> RebateFX: I cant see anything, erm you might need to edit the plugin to beep for all message or something
[13:29] <Lilacor> HardDisk: no, unfortunately, linux
[13:29] <Lunks> Andeh: look for myspell-* packages
[13:29] <saintz0r> hello all. need some help with a partiton.
[13:29] <GHOST> cauz linux is free of charge=no profit
[13:29] <saintz0r> cant figure out how to mount it
[13:29] <Andeh> RebateFX: Hmm... I wonder if you could keep the wires connected, and then call it...
[13:29] <RebateFX> vishal: Yeah. I could try :) Thanks
[13:29] <confuded> If anyone knows what module (driver w/e) does Ubuntu load for external firewire cd roms (drives) PLEASE PM me :) Thanks alot
[13:29] <Lilacor> HardDisk: ask the average person.. "Huh? is that some new kind of blender?"
[13:29] <saintz0r> gparted says its there
[13:29] <_Pengo> Andeh:I only use OO to recover word apps for customers at work
[13:29] <saintz0r> shows it
[13:29] <HardDisk> Lilacor, due to community, digg, slashdot, PR it's ubuntu that brought linux into 2007.
[13:29] <Andeh> Lunks: I already installed all that. How do i tell OO to USE it?
[13:29] <saintz0r> but i cant find it in my computer
[13:29] <larson9999> GHOST, that's not true.  plenty of companies make a profit from linux
[13:30] <Lunks> Andeh: Let me check. You already installed a myspell package?
[13:30] <Andeh> larson9999: Like microsof
[13:30] <Andeh> xD
[13:30] <Lilacor> HardDisk: yes but it's still not in plain view of the average joe.
[13:30] <Andeh> Lunks: Yes.
[13:30] <HardDisk> Lilacor, don't forget Dell's introduction to ubuntu onto it's desktop/laptop line.
[13:30] <RebateFX> Andeh: I'll just use my linksys skype phone that doesn't work in linux and just page it using the base ;)
[13:30] <GHOST> hey tats true
[13:30] <confuded> Can anyone provide please help... :(
[13:30] <HardDisk> and Dell IS infront of the average joe.
[13:30] <saintz0r> anyone?
[13:30] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[13:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:30] <HardDisk> meh
[13:30] <vishal> RebateFX: Try install the Notification plugin, restart, then under the notification menu, select on all messages and restart again?
[13:30] <Lilacor> HardDisk: I can't stress how much Mark Shuttleworth has done for the Linux OS as a desktop system.
[13:30] <Andeh> RebateFX: Hmm. Maybe you could sandpaper your alarmclock, coat it in jelly and set it for 13 AM?
[13:30] <RebateFX> :o
[13:30] <HardDisk> don't stress, you'll pop a vein.
[13:30] <Andeh> ;D
[13:30] <GHOST> lol
[13:31] <Lilacor> HardDisk: we'd all be still banging our heads against walls without him
[13:31] <confuded> Anyone: firewire module
[13:31] <HardDisk> I disagree.
[13:31] <HardDisk> but we can talk it over next door.
[13:31] <Lunks> Andeh: on spellcheck, just select the language you want
[13:31] <Ximal> shuttleworth /
[13:31] <Andeh> Lunks: Um. I'll try that
[13:31] <Myrtti> move along to #ubuntu-offtopic with non-support chatter, please
[13:31] <Ximal> shuttleworth /
[13:31] <Ximal> ?????
[13:31] <GHOST> is there a opendsd channel?
[13:31] <confuded> Anyone polease help: firewire boot module
[13:31] <Lilacor> Myrtti: apologies
[13:32] <Myrtti> np
[13:32] <confuded> please*
[13:32] <Slart> !repeat  | confuded
[13:32] <ubotu> confuded: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Myrtti
[13:32] <Andeh> Lunks: How do i tell it to use croatian? I chose Croatian as the main language, typed some croatian words and some random letters. Spellcheck is complete, it says the random letters are valid croatian words.
[13:32] <Lunks> hmm weird
[13:32] <Lunks> hang on
[13:33] <GHOST> Jack_Sparrow hi there :)
[13:33] <Ximal> change ur dictionarylaguage  notur os
[13:33] <confuded> Question: What module/driver does Ubuntu or Kubuntu use to access the firewire external drives? My cd rom (firewire) only work with Ubuntu and Fedora.
[13:33] <Ximal> check ur plugin too  make sure it has proper support forur needs ;)
[13:33] <HardDisk> they always catch us when we're not helping :)
[13:33] <vishal> Does anyone know how to get the file transfer speed on the file copy dialogue?
[13:33] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: moin
[13:33] <ubuntu> morgen
[13:33] <HardDisk> gives em a bad impression eh :)
[13:33] <Slart> vishal: I'm not sure you can.. afaik
[13:34] <tifine> hello
[13:34] <confuded>  Question: What module/driver does Ubuntu or Kubuntu use to access the firewire external drives? My cd rom (firewire) only work with Ubuntu and Fedora.
[13:34] <likewise> HardDisk: thanks, I'm up and running again.
[13:34] <finn> question: is there much difference in performance between a P3 and a P2 for ubuntu on a notebook?
[13:34] <Lilacor> confuded: are you having trouble using your cdrom drive?
[13:34] <HardDisk> np dude
[13:34] <tifine> i want to configure the x1100 series printer
[13:34] <HardDisk> finn, main thing is ram.
[13:34] <confuded> Lilacor, yes and no
[13:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep, morning to all, Slart, HardDisk, ghost et al.....
[13:34] <HardDisk> finn, and obviously yes, if the mhz is significant.
[13:34] <finn> the 2 computers I am investigating both have 256 mb ram
[13:34] <Andeh> Lunks: Hmm. The machine I plan to use is very low end. Do you know how to enable spellcheck in Abiword instead of OO?
[13:34] <mandh> can any one help me finding test king LPI 101 (117-101 ) to test linux ?
[13:34] <Slart> confuded: once a minute gets a bit annoying.. try waiting 5 minutes or so beween repeating the questions..
[13:35] <HardDisk> lo jacky
[13:35] <confuded> Slart, ok
[13:35] <finn> well the p3 is 450 mhz
[13:35] <HardDisk> haven't slept yet myself.
[13:35] <Slart> morning Jack_Sparrow
[13:35] <GHOST> shouldnt drink that much yesterday...
[13:35] <tifine> dont know how to install and configure it ? i dont have the installation disk!
[13:35] <Lunks> Andeh: found it
[13:35] <HardDisk> gonna pull an all nighter again
[13:35] <Lunks> hm
[13:35] <Andeh> Lunks::D
[13:35] <Lunks> Andeh: I've never used Abiword, but I've found on OO
[13:35] <GHOST> hey
[13:35] <Lunks> maybe it can help you, anyway
[13:35] <Andeh> Okay then
[13:35] <vishal> Slart: KK thanks, I used another distro before i used ubuntu and it had it on there, though it was pretty cool
[13:35] <Lunks> tools/options
[13:35] <Lunks> language/language
[13:35] <cryxen_> hey
[13:35] <Lunks> whoops
[13:35] <vishal> MS Office 2007 FTW
[13:35] <Slart> tifine: what brand is the printer?
[13:36] <Lunks> language settings/writing aids
[13:36] <Andeh> Lunks: Language settings/????
[13:36] <Lunks> hunspell, click edit
[13:36] <Lunks> Andeh: double click it
[13:36] <tifine> slart: lexmark x1100 series
[13:36] <finn> so can I presume that a P3 450 mhz with 256 mb ram will operate smoothly?
[13:36] <Lunks> Andeh: it'll show 'writing aids'
[13:36] <Jack_Sparrow> finn: that is pretty marginal...
[13:36] <Andeh> Lunks: YES!!!!
[13:36] <Andeh> WOO
[13:37] <finn> the laptop costs $25 :P
[13:37] <Andeh> Croatian spellcheck support yaa!
[13:37] <GHOST> lol finaly :)
[13:37] <Andeh> Awesome! now can I get abiword to do this?
[13:37] <confuded> Quesuion: Anyone know where I can find the booting devices when running live CD, meaning the list of modules: SCSI drive, USB, firewire etc...
[13:37] <Lunks> Andeh: try it =P
[13:37] <finn> i know a P2 400 mhz was slow as molassess :(
[13:37] <Slart> tifine: hmm.. lexmark usually is pretty bad with linux support.. you could look at www.linuxprinting.org . Check if it's supported by cups
[13:37] <Myrtti> confuded: lsmod?
[13:38] <confuded> Myrtti, whats that?
[13:38] <confuded> Myrtti, is that the firewire module?
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> finn: a little extra ram in that would make a world of difference
[13:38] <Myrtti> a command to type on your terminal
[13:38] <HardDisk> finn, yes you may want to install with alternative cd and/or xubuntu
[13:38] <confuded> Myrtti, to do what?
[13:38] <vishal> Anyone know how I can speed up the load time on ubuntu?
[13:38] <HardDisk> note "may"
[13:38] <Myrtti> to see which modules have been loaded
[13:39] <Andeh> Just a very quick question: Typing in Abiword is laggy. I have a very high end computer and even typing in OO is not laggy. Why is typing in Abiword laggy?
[13:39] <confuded> Myrtti, oh ok thanks...
[13:39] <HardDisk> vishal, there are tonnes of tips on google to "tweak ubuntu"
[13:39] <finn> is ram cheap for such an old laptop??
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> finn: If you have trouble installing, go into the cmos/bios and set the video to use a minimum amount of shared memory
[13:39] <confuded> Myrtti, oh ok thanks...I'll try that when I get a chance...
[13:39] <HardDisk> finn, depending on where you are in the world.
[13:39] <finn> I thought it was impossible to open those things to install new ram.....
[13:39] <HardDisk> and whether you will purchase locally or online.
[13:39] <finn> ok...
[13:40] <HardDisk> try to do the research.
[13:40] <Slart> tifine: seems it is supported.. http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X1100
[13:40] <vishal> HardDisk: Thanks, will look on that, its takes quite a while compared to windows
[13:40] <HardDisk> it never hurts to do your own researching.
[13:40] <Andeh> Does anyone here ever use Abiword?
[13:40] <tifine> Slart: okie let me check
[13:40] <Slart> Andeh: sometimes
[13:40] <Jack_Sparrow> finn: I was shocked at the cost of old ram.. it was way more than I expected...
[13:40] <HardDisk> Andeh, no sorry, Ooo for me.
[13:40] <sponix> anyone use a 3ware 7506 card ?
[13:41] <Andeh> Slart: Is Abiword usually laggy?
[13:41] <finn> yeah, I feared that :(
[13:41] <Slart> Andeh: not that I've noticed
[13:41] <corruptionoflulz> Andeh: i've used abiword a bit, and i found it way fast
[13:41] <Andeh> Ah
[13:41] <polz> does anyone here know how to get an USB flashdrive to always mount in the same location during boot, without gnome-volume-manager or some such thing ?
[13:41] <corruptionoflulz> atleast, compared to OO
[13:41] <Jack_Sparrow> polz: put the uuid of the usb stick into your fstab
[13:41] <corruptionoflulz> actually, just fast compared to anything
[13:41] <larson9999> Jack_Sparrow, try rimm!  i nearly fell over from shock.
[13:42] <Andeh> hey
[13:42] <Slart> polz: have you tried adding it to /etc/fstab using the uid-nbr of the drive as devicename?
[13:42] <Andeh> How do I start XFWM4?
[13:42] <Andeh> I'm running emerald in compiz
[13:42] <Yick> Hello, Is it possible to install Ubuntu to an USB-Stick and boot Ubuntu from the USB-Stick on a Computer which has WinXP installed?
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Yick: yes
[13:42] <Slart> Yick: yes
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[13:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:42] <Andeh> How do I tell compiz to close and run XFWM4 instead?
[13:42] <GHOST> good buy all
[13:42] <Yick> Thanks a lot. Merry Christmas :)
[13:42] <polz> Slart: yep.
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Yick: one sec
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> pendrivelinux.com will have some helpful info on doing that
[13:43] <Slart> polz: it didn't work? then.. well.. perhaps look at the udev rules.. somewhere in /etc/udev
[13:43] <orbisvicis> any way to get some sort of file manager in framebuffer ?
[13:43] <Yick> Thanks agian :)
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:43] <Slart> orbisvicis: midnight commander is popular
[13:43] <tmjb> does anyone know dow ubuntu 6.06 LTS work with ICH9 controler ? ??
[13:43] <Slart> oh.. framebuffer... nevermind
[13:44] <orbisvicis> check it out
[13:44] <orbisvicis> ty
[13:44] <polz> Slart: actually, it mounts fine during startup...
[13:44] <tmjb> look like the ubuntu server edition is not very much Long Term Support
[13:45] <tmjb> for newer computer is much better to use some thing like 7.10
[13:45] <polz> Slart: the next question would be... how do I get it to properly re-mount after my computer returns from suspend ?
[13:46] <Slart> polz: ah.. suspend.. I don't even know what happens during a suspend.. even less about how things are setup when it wakes up again
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Hibernate/suspend still seems to have issues
[13:47] <Slart> polz: if you ask me, it should figure that stuff out itself.. without user intervention.. but from what I understand, not much does =/
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> polz: If you have the uuid in fstab the mount should not be an issue
[13:48] <tifine> Slart: from where i download the driver ?
[13:48] <Slart> tifine: it isn't available from the repos?
[13:49] <tifine> Slart: repos ?
[13:50] <Slart> tifine: repositories.. the same place you install most software from in ubuntu.. apt-get and synaptic get their stuff from the repositories
[13:50] <tifine> Slart: okie is there anyway that i can get the lexmark x1100 series driver
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> tmjb: Did you have a question about LTS and non-LTS releases
[13:50] <polz> hmm.. how exactly do the drives get mounted under /media, anyway ?
[13:51] <larson9999> errr, i couldn't get samba working because of a type-o in the tute i was reading :)
[13:51] <Slart> tifine: hang on.. I'm looking.. brb
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> larson9999: Thats a lesson you will remember
[13:51] <tifine> Slart: ok thnxs
[13:51] <jaybinks> howdy yall... im having trouble with my audio card in gutsy ... Alsa says there is no card..  Im trying to use an onboard audio (on a gigabyte ga-m57sli-s4 mobo ) any help would be great !
[13:52] <jaybinks> I THINK it uses hda-intel chip or something for audio... how do I make this work ?
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> jaybinks: DO you know the chipset for that audio setup?
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !intelhda
[13:52] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:52] <jaybinks> thanks... will look
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:52] <olli> Merry Christmas! Is there a chance of installing a machine from scratch via internet?
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > olli
[13:53] <larson9999> Jack_Sparrow, yeah, seems like i forgot the tutorials that just work.  i spent a solid day messing with a mainframe utility once. finally got it working when i started from the top and accidentally made a type-o which corrected the type-o in the book.  i've never forgotten that!
[13:53] <tmjb> Jack_Sparrow, i have problem with curent lts version on Gigabyte P35-DS4 main board with Quad Core CPU  want install
[13:53] <Condoulo> any GRUB experts in the house? :P
[13:53] <olli> !install
[13:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:54] <olli> thx @ Jack_Sparrow
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tmjb: Dapper wouldn't go in for you on that.. Odd, that is a very stable version
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: np
[13:54] <larson9999> Jack_Sparrow, or paying good money for crap hw because i didn't research.  i'll never buy a via board again :)
[13:54] <olli> unfortunately there's nothing useful in this document
[13:55] <tmjb> Jack_Sparrow,Why the hell i have to use usb-cdrom  to installl on ich9 mainboard any ideas ???
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: What about from USB or another...
[13:55] <Slart> tifine: hmm.. it wasn't that easy and I'm not very good with printers in linux.. there are some instructions on that link I gave you but I'm afraid I can't help you much with it.. perhaps someone else in the channel can
[13:55] <olli> look my problem is the following: I am at my parent's and the only working machine is my laptop
[13:55] <bazhang> olli: you want to do a minimal install? then see !minimal
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> tmjb: Please watch the language and keep this family friendly.. especially today
[13:55] <olli> all other machines are down
[13:55] <Condoulo> if my current main hard drive is (0,0), would my Windows drive be (0,1)
[13:55] <Belboz99> I'm having a problem where the install goes 100% fine, but on boot it can't find my hard drive :(
[13:55] <tmjb> Jack_Sparrow,sorry
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[13:56] <tifine> Slart: thankyou for your help indeed
[13:56] <Slart> Condoulo: depends.. according to what numbering scheme? grub?
[13:56] <olli> I've got a working router, no working cd burners or external harddisks
[13:56] <Belboz99> where should I install the bootloader on a Vista machine with Vista on sda1 and Linux on sda5?
[13:56] <Condoulo> Slart- yeah, GRUB
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Belboz99: If you boot the installcd will it then boot to the first hard drive
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: NO usb sticks etc?
[13:57] <olli> one usb-stick
[13:57] <bazhang> olli: then do something like from www.pendrivelinux.com
[13:57] <olli> 256 mb
[13:58] <Slart> Condoulo: (hd0,4) would be the 4th partition on the first harddrive I think.. you might want to check the grub documentation to be sure though
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: that is #5
[13:58] <Condoulo> Slart- is there a way to check to make sure?
[13:58] <wols_> Biohazard: sda
[13:58] <wols_> Belboz99: sda
[13:58] <bazhang> olli: 4GB pen drives can be had cheap these days
[13:58] <polz> Slart: afaik that would be the 4th part.
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: Sorry. my bad
[13:58] <Slart> Condoulo: (hd1,1) would be the first partition on the second hard drive
[13:58] <polz> oops, what Jack_Sparrow said.
[13:58] <olli> unfortunately it's a bank-holiday in germany
[13:59] <larson9999> olli, i got mine for $40 about 3 months ago
[13:59] <tmjb> Jack_Sparrow,i read in this blog about new support for  added  support for some ICH8/ICH8-M/ICH9 IDE and SATA controllers http://hyip-man.blogspot.com/ looks like only way for me is 7.10
[13:59] <Slart> ok.. I think hard drives start at hd0 and partitions at 1.. everyone agree? =)
[13:59] <Condoulo> brb, going to do a re-boot. See if my GRUB edit worked.
[13:59] <polz> Slart: that's (hd1,0)
[13:59] <wols_> Slart: no
[13:59] <wols_> hd0,0 is sda1
[13:59] <bazhang> Slart: haha
[13:59] <wols_> and both are partitions
[13:59] <Condoulo> ok. o_O Will everyone stop confusing me
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> MOrning wols
[14:00] <kksm19820117> Greetings, all. I've completed a alternate command line install from a Ubuntu 7.10, installed X, Fluxbox and MPlayer. The video runs fine, but I get no sound. I've probably got to install something, but I'm not sure if it's ALSA or something else. Could someone please help me? Thanks in advance.
[14:00] <tmjb> sorry Jack_Sparrow: wrong blog
[14:00] <wols_> good afternoon
[14:00] <Belboz99> so, I should install grub to 0,4?
[14:00] <Slart> Condoulo: as I said.. check the documentation..  =)
[14:00] <wols_> !sound | kksm19820117
[14:00] <Condoulo> !Grub
[14:00] <wols_> alsi is right
[14:00] <ubotu> kksm19820117: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:00] <wols_> Condoulo: which sdXX partition do you want in grub notation?
[14:00] <Belboz99> the thing is, I have grub working fine
[14:00] <kksm19820117> wols_, Thank you.
[14:01] <Belboz99> it just hangs at the splash screen
[14:01] <olli> I've got an idea! what about booting from a 256 pen drive and doing a network install from my laptop
[14:01] <olli> that might work
[14:01] <Belboz99> if I disable splash, I see it gets to a part where it complains about my chipset, and then it tries loading the cdrom driver, and then fails, leaving me at a terminal
[14:01] <wols_> Belboz99: disable the "quiet" from menu.lst and the bootsplash so you see what's going on
[14:02] <wols_> Belboz99: error messages please
[14:02] <Belboz99> wols_: NFORCE-MCP67:  not 100% native mode, will probe IRQ's later
[14:02] <Belboz99> wols_: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly, Enabling work around
[14:02] <Andeh> Hi. I want to replace my Xubuntu install with Ubuntu. I am assuming to do this I must just install "ubuntu-desktop" then remove "xubuntu-desktop", right?
[14:03] <Belboz99> I've seen on google others just go right past this problem
[14:03] <Belboz99> I've tried noapic and all the other kernel flags I can think of
[14:03] <wols_> Belboz99: shouldn't be a problem
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Andeh: YEs, or just leave the other desktop there and have it as an available option when you login
[14:03] <hotgklub> http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies
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[14:03] <Andeh> Jack_Sparrow: Ah. Great. Thanks!
[14:04] <Andeh> BRB anhilating Xubuntu!
[14:04] <Andeh> :D
[14:04] <Belboz99> well, eventually it gets to this:
[14:04] <Belboz99> (09:26:32 PM) Belboz99: Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
[14:04] <Belboz99> (09:26:55 PM) Belboz99: or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev
[14:04] <Belboz99> (09:27:12 PM) Belboz99: ALERT! /dev/sda5 does not exit.  Dropping to a shell!
[14:04] <Belboz99> and that may be the real problem, which is why I asked about grub
[14:04] <wols_> aha. that is the problem
[14:05] <hotgklub> http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies
[14:05] <Lunks> may I ask, why there's "#ubuntu-unregged"?
[14:05] <olli> Jack_Sparrow: The thing (install without CD) you send me via ubotu was exactly what I was looking for
[14:05] <olli> Thanks a lot!
[14:05] <Slart> can't someone kick hotgklub?
[14:05] <wols_> what is in your menu.lst for root?
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: np
[14:06] <Belboz99> wols_: you want it from the grub menu, or should I head into a live-CD?
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: Sometimes we need to lockdown the channel, and divert unregg'd people there..
[14:06] <Belboz99> heh, now that's freaking weird
[14:06] <wols_> Belboz99: grub menu
[14:06] <Belboz99> I do an ls at the terminal it gives, and /boot isn't listed :-P
[14:07] <Belboz99> everything else is though :/
[14:07] <Belboz99> okay, 1 sec wols_
[14:08] <Belboz99> root  (hd0,4)
[14:08] <Slart> oh.. I know this.. 5th partition on 1:st hard drive.. ? =)
[14:09] <Condoulo> ok, the section I tried adding did not work
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> slart... yea..
[14:09]  * Slart has been studying grub manuals =)
[14:09] <wols_> Slart: close. 1st extended partition
[14:09] <olli> !install
[14:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:09] <wols_> Belboz99: and that's not what I meant
[14:09] <Slart> ahh.. yes.. only 4 primary ones.. . so first extended
[14:09] <wols_> yes
[14:09] <Belboz99> oops, which line did you want wols_?
[14:10] <MikeLowrey_14046> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 bitte ma klicken
[14:10] <Belboz99> root=/dev/sda5 ?
[14:10] <cyzie> how do i reinstall all the package in the system in a exiting system? the reason is i want ot verify if there is any package is corrupt due to the hard disk failure / memory error.
[14:11] <wols_> ops: please ban MikeLowrey_14046, it's a minicity kinda spam
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > cyzie May be what you want..
[14:11] <Slart> cyzie: you can mark the package to "reinstall" in synaptic.. there's a way to do it with apt-get too. but I've forgotten the syntax
[14:11] <MikeLowrey_14046> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 bitte ma klicken
[14:11] <wols_> apt-get reinstall ?
[14:11] <wols_> !ops MikeLowrey_14046 is spamming a miminicity kinda url
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: His question is not phrased well, may not be native english speller.
[14:12] <MikeLowrey_14046> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 bitte ma klicken
[14:12] <Belboz99> Slart: apt-get install --reinstall
[14:12] <Slart> wols_: hmm.. I get invalid operaton reinstall.. think it's a switch or something.. apt-get install --reinstall or something..
[14:12] <MikeLowrey_14046> click pls
[14:12] <chintan> can anyone help i stuck on my nick in this node. idents my self but the nickserv says its wrong pass. what should i do
[14:12] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: MikeLowrey_14046 is a spammer. not asking anything
[14:12] <wols_> MikeLowrey_14046: fuck off
[14:13] <Slart> MikeLowrey_14046: go eat some paint or something..
[14:13] <ader10> o4o
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: I wasnt talking about him... yes I can see he is a spammer
[14:13] <predaeus> wols_, please keep this family friendly
[14:13] <MikeLowrey_14046> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 look pls and help me :(
[14:13] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, Slart that is if you want to replicate an existing fine system. my pc has gone to memeory error and possible hard disk failure. so i would like to reinstall the existing system for all the packages.
[14:13] <Belboz99> wols_: which line did you want from my menu.lst?
[14:14] <Slart> cyzie: does anything work? you could do that dpkg -l > installedpackages.txt and use that file to reinstall those packages after a wipe or something
[14:14] <wols_> Belboz99: the root kernel param
[14:14] <Condoulo> is there an easy way to find out what my drives specifically are? Such as it shows my main Ubuntu install as (0,0). But how can I find out what my Windows disc is.'
[14:14] <chintan> ?
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: That clone link tells how to make a list of packages that you installed so you can reinstall them on another machine.. regardless of the condition of the existing system
[14:14] <cyzie> Slart, taht is near, but consider this, debsums...
[14:15] <wols_> Condoulo: why do you need this?
[14:15] <HardDisk> !ops | MikeLowrey_14046
[14:15] <ubotu> MikeLowrey_14046: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[14:15] <MikeLowrey_14046> someone can help me pls? i got a problem. here is a screen http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149
[14:15] <Ximal> !offtopic
[14:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:15] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, im not install in another system. im installing on the same system.
[14:15] <Slart> cyzie: debsums?
[14:15] <Belboz99> wols_:
[14:15] <Belboz99> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro
[14:15] <chintan> someone help the nickserv says my pass is wrong but its not. im sure. what to do?
[14:15] <wols_> Belboz99: you didn't use ubuntu to create that entry
[14:15] <cyzie> Slart, yea, pretty good. to check the integrity of the package..
[14:15] <wols_> chintan: #freenode
[14:15] <thor> Condoulo fdisk -l will show all partitions...the windows partition will be ntfs
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Same difference same machine or another...   make the list, check it twice
[14:15] <Belboz99> lol, smartone wols_:
[14:15] <Belboz99> ;)
[14:15] <chintan> #freenode
[14:16] <chintan> to join?
[14:16] <wols_> Belboz99: this is #ubuntu if you haven't noticed. run update-grub to get a ubuntu menu.lst
[14:16] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, that is before the error, u need to get the list... i didnt .
[14:16] <wols_> chintan: yes
[14:16] <Belboz99> I'm actually on Linux Mint, sorry for the deception, there's nobody in that forum at the moment
[14:16] <Belboz99> or chatroom for that matter
[14:16] <Andeh> hey
[14:16] <Andeh> what is the process name of the installer on the ubuntu live CD?
[14:16] <Andeh> It crashed and I want to kill it
[14:17] <Condoulo> thor- its not showing anything
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: HOw bad is the system and what error..
[14:17] <HardDisk> chintan, #freenode
[14:17] <HardDisk> my bad didn't see it was done already.
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Typical of some people not wanting a backup until after they need it.
[14:17] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, pretty bad. the memory cause big SHIT... such as when u launch a console, it throw error. everytime u start browser, it crash with core dump. when u copy files, it hang the whole systems everytime..
[14:17] <Andeh> What is the process name of the ubuntu installer? It froze and I want to kill it
[14:18] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, yes, u are right.
[14:18] <erpo> When I plug an SD card into my laptop's card reader, it's detected and mounted automatically. But when I plug an xD card into the same reader, nothing happens. How do I fix this?
[14:18] <Slart> Andeh: you're the one with a working console.. try ps -A | grep -i install
[14:18] <Andeh> Slart: Meh, i rebooted X
[14:18] <thor> Condoulo you have to do 'sudo fdisk -l'
[14:19] <Condoulo> thor- I did. And it only gave me info about the flash drive I had plugged in at the time
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > Jack_Sparrow
[14:19] <mason> hello
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Can you get to recovery mode
[14:19] <thor> Condoulo what does 'mount' say?
[14:19] <mason> i like make friends
[14:19] <arkaitz> hola
[14:19] <thor> Condoulo are you running off the flash drive?
[14:19] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, why ?
[14:19] <mason> and i come from china
[14:20] <Condoulo> thor- no
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > arkaitz
[14:20] <Condoulo> Thor- I am trying to get GRUB to show my windows install on my second hard drive.
[14:20] <mason> where are you?
[14:20] <stdin> !cn | mason
[14:20] <ubotu> mason: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: If you can get to cli in recovery mode you can run the dpkg command and see if it works
[14:20] <gostone> Hello all
[14:20] <gostone> Any ideas as to why I can't rename my USB key under Gutsy?
[14:21] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, well, that wont be neccessary. because what u suggest is before the system crash. but it is not suitable for this case asi dont do the get-selections before the errror..
[14:21] <thor> Condoulo a windows xp install?
[14:21] <gostone> any suggestions appreciated
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: YOu can also try to install another desktop and try that in case the issue is at that level
[14:21] <Condoulo> thor- Yeah, Windows XP
[14:21] <Slart> gostone: what did you try? and what was the result?
[14:21] <wols_> cyzie: boot a livecd,chroot into your system, run the get-selectioon
[14:21] <thor> Condoulo ok...give me a sec
[14:21] <Condoulo> thor- but my problem is finding  the mount point. I Ubuntu drive is (0,0), but I have no idea what my XP drive is
[14:21] <mason> how can i talk with a friend on net in QQ procootol
[14:22] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, nah... i guess the wiser step now is to use the debsums.. that is more concrete way to go for now.
[14:22] <gostone> tried right click, but greyed out, then did sudo nautilus, and it said " could not rename
[14:22] <wols_> Condoulo: sudo update-grub doesn't put it in?
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: It should work, but since you dont care to try or listen, I cant help you
[14:22] <wols_> Condoulo: if not: show us your /boot/grub/device.map
[14:22] <mason> is there anyone?
[14:22] <thor> Condoulo I believe it would be 1,0....not sure, but it wouldn't hurt to give that a go. I assume your xp drive was bootable and you just moved it and installed linux on the other drive?
[14:22] <mason> hello
[14:22] <wols_> mason: what is QQ protocol?
[14:22] <helsing> Enter text here..hi
[14:22] <mason> by-by
[14:22] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, I'm cosnidering your help, personally i don tthink it work now. ;)
[14:22] <mason> bye
[14:23] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, but it is good that command for the future now
[14:23] <gostone> QQ is like AIM, or yahoo messenger, common in asia
[14:23] <Condoulo> thor- What I did to install XP was disable my Ubuntu drive, and then re-enable my Ubuntu drive once the install was done. And I already tried 1,0. no luck
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: IT isnt that hard to try it...
[14:23] <Condoulo> yeah, sudo-grub update does not help
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: You are not trying to use the packages that you installed, just the names of them.
[14:23] <krupa^> hello all! hey, how can i set my ubuntu to run automaticly without GUI ? ... thanks!
[14:23] <cyzie> wols_, yes, the system can bootup it just that some package i cant download due to dependecies proiblem.
[14:23] <thor> Condoulo if you do 'sudo fdisk -l' it doesn't show anything?
[14:23] <wols_> cyzie: so what is the problem?
[14:24] <Condoulo> thor- nothing unless my flash drive is plugged in. but thats my flash drive's info
[14:24] <cyzie> wols_, check the integrity of the packages install in the system
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Sounds like you used automatix or envy and now you have a problem
[14:24] <hkBst> where can I find out the kernel version that sits on the release?
[14:24] <gostone> Any ideas on renaming my USB key Slart?
[14:24] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, well, nope.
[14:24] <wols_> cyzie: debsums
[14:24] <cyzie> wols_, yes, using that now.
[14:24] <thor> Condoulo that's not right....it would have to show your linux drive if nothing else...I mean...you are logged in right?
[14:24] <Condoulo> thor- yeah
[14:24] <wols_> hkBst: "sits on the release"?
[14:24] <Slart> gostone:  I just tried the same thing myself.. same result.. just checking here.. when you say rename.. you just mean the name that shows up in nautilus?
[14:25] <hkBst> wols_: the on used by the cd. I can't boot it.
[14:25] <wols_> Condoulo: cat /proc/partitions
[14:25] <wols_> hkBst: what error(s)?
[14:25] <cyzie> wols_, if you have time, take a look at this link please.http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49528/
[14:25] <thor> Condoulo what does 'mount' say?
[14:25] <Stwange> Merry Christmas all. As a present to me, can anyone tell me how to resize an NTFS partition from Ubuntu? GParted has the option greyed out
[14:25] <gostone> yes, the name of the key, I am sure in Hoary, and previously I just right clicked, and renamed
[14:25] <hkBst> wols_: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7004
[14:25] <Condoulo> thor- gives me no mount
[14:26] <hkBst> wols_: rather http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7004#c13
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Stwange: I prefer to use the stand alone gparted live cd...  but you cant resize a mounted partition
[14:26] <wols_> cyzie: apt-cache policy for x11vnc and libvncserver0
[14:26] <cyzie> wols_, thanks. i do that.
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Stwange: if that is what you are trying to do with the ubuntu livecd
[14:26] <thor> Condoulo something isn't right....it would have to show / and /home at a minimum, and a swap probably
[14:26] <Stwange> Jack_Sparrow, I thought that, but I dismounted it and nothing changed. And now I dunno how to remount :S but I'd rather resize first :)
[14:26] <Slart> gostone: look here. .might help you .. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=426139
[14:26] <cyzie> wols_, what should i expect?
[14:27] <kengero2222> anyone knows how to startup Ubuntu 7.10 without GUI ???
[14:27] <wols_> Condoulo: what does the command I gave you show?
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Stwange: Hope you have a backup of anything important on that ntfs
[14:27] <darkfrog> Hey guys, I can't seem to get sound to work on my box...it worked with Fedora and just tried to switch over to Ubuntu 7.10 and everything seems to installed correctly, but no sound...
[14:27] <wols_> cyzie: from where packages are/will be installed
[14:27] <hkBst> kengero2222: use the alternate cd
[14:27] <kengero2222> i already installed ubuntu
[14:27] <Condoulo> wols_- Major, Minor, #Blocks, and name
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> darkfrog: INtel HD audio?
[14:27] <kengero2222> just want it to be default without gui
[14:27] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk? You there?
[14:27] <Stwange> Jack_Sparrow, before I resize it, or before I dismounted it?
[14:27] <kengero2222> (just in case i need the gui)
[14:27] <JonaTh> darkfrog: Same problem here,,,
[14:28] <darkfrog> Jack_Sparrow, I have onboard sound and an Audigy SB card. The latter is what I want to play sound through.
[14:28] <khelll> where shall i find the jdk files on my pc?
[14:28] <cyzie> wols_, for x11vnc Candidate: 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1~gutsy1
[14:28] <wols_> hkBst: ubuntu uses 2.6.22
[14:28] <cyzie> wols_, for libvncserver0 . none
[14:28] <wols_> cyzie: pastebin. ALL of it
[14:28] <darkfrog> khelll, /usr/java/... ?
[14:28] <cyzie> wols_, ok
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Stwange: Before you do anthing to an ntfs.. make sure you have a recovery method for anything you cant afford to lose
[14:28] <wols_> khelll: dpkg -L <package name>
[14:28] <Andeh> I have Xubuntu, though I want to install Ubuntu over it. i have installed "ubuntu-desktop". Now how do I get rid of Xubuntu's apps?
[14:29] <thor> Condoulo try 'hwinfo' in a terminal and see if you have that installed
[14:29] <Condoulo> thor- not installed. :P
[14:29] <CokeNCode> guys, looking for 1) software to rip audio from youtube vids, and 2) software to manipulate my own mp3s, nothing too complicated, just cut them off early, n start them later, stuff like that
[14:29] <arkaitz> hola
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Andeh: Do you want to remove the XUB desktop?
[14:29] <Andeh> Jack_Sparrow: yes, and all the crud it came with.
[14:30] <Slart> CokeNCode: my answer for 2) audacity
[14:30] <arkaitz> como es el canal ubuntu en castellano
[14:30] <arkaitz> :S
[14:30] <gostone> thanks Slart, I was just hoping it would be a simple right click, it used to work in renaming USB pen drives.....
[14:30] <wols_> !es | arkaitz
[14:30] <ubotu> arkaitz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:30] <Stwange> Jack_Sparrow, I've got most of it, you any idea how to go about resizing it? I got most of the important stuff. I don't have a copy of the ubuntu CD but I've got GParted
[14:30] <Andeh> Jack_Sparrow: Like Abiword, etc. Can I get rid of those, without looking up every single app ONLY xubuntu has?
[14:30] <bazhang> miro for video from youtube CokeNCode
[14:30] <CokeNCode> bazhang, but, i just want the audio
[14:30] <Slart> gostone: mm.. it would be nice if that right-click menu worked
[14:31] <thor> CokeNCode Audacity for editing
[14:31] <Condoulo> just installed hwinfo
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Andeh: I would think apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop   would do what you want.. but I dont do Xub
[14:31] <bazhang> CokeNCode: first get the video though right?
[14:31] <CokeNCode> true ... thanks bazhang
[14:31] <Andeh> Jack_Sparrow: I did that. It removed 42 KB
[14:31] <CokeNCode> thor, audacity keeps giving me errors :(
[14:31] <CokeNCode> any other suggestions
[14:31] <Andeh> Jack_Sparrow: Doesnt really work, i think.
[14:31] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: aren't those desktop packages just meta packages?
[14:31] <thor> Condoulo 'hwinfo' will output a ton of info....capture it to a text file with 'hwinfo > hwinfo.txt'
[14:31] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: -desktop packages are meta packages
[14:32] <Condoulo> thor- ok
[14:32] <hkBst> wols_: is there some record of that online?
[14:32] <wols_> Andeh: you want to find a lib all of xfce depends on and remove that one. depdencies will do the rest. but that won't get rid of abiword for example
[14:32] <cyzie> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49528/
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: I thought that would remove the entire meta-package
[14:32] <wols_> hkBst: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:32] <hkBst> wols_: maybe even a complete package-version list?
[14:32] <darkfrog> is alsa what I should be using on Ubuntu, or is something else preferred?
[14:32] <CokeNCode> does miro have a gui interface
[14:32] <CokeNCode> or is it command line ?
[14:32] <wols_> cyzie: I want your apt-cache policy output duh!
[14:32] <darkfrog> CokeNCode, UI
[14:32] <thor> CokeNCode Ardour, but I have just installed it and not yet tried it...so can't tell you anything about how good or bad it is
[14:32] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. the meta-package.. which probably is several kilobytes in size =).. I don't think it removes all the real packages though
[14:33] <cyzie> wols_, it is there?!
[14:33] <wols_> darkfrog: yes you should use alsa
[14:33] <CokeNCode> thanks thor
[14:33] <cyzie> wols_, line 14-26
[14:33] <wols_> cyzie: it only has 11 lines here
[14:33] <darkfrog> wols_, I'm at a loss why this won't work then...it says it's playing, it lists the card properly, but nothing comes out.
[14:33] <cyzie> wols_, ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49533/
[14:33] <darkfrog> the connection is good
[14:33] <wols_> darkfrog: use alsamixer and unmute
[14:33] <RealSpay_169070> hallo ihr Penner xD
[14:34] <wols_> !de | RealSpay_169070
[14:34] <RealSpay_169070> wo kann ich mein Bild von meinen Penner ändern?
[14:34] <wols_> ubotu: wakeup
[14:34] <ubotu> RealSpay_169070: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wakeup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:34] <wols_> RealSpay_169070: #ubuntu-de. this channel is english only
[14:34] <Skfarek> hi!
[14:35] <RealSpay_169070> oh sorry
[14:35] <thor> Condoulo you should be able to identify the hard drives in that text file...
[14:35] <Condoulo> thor- yeah. I found the ID_Path shows -0:1 at the end. would that be it?
[14:35] <Skfarek> i have a problem with framebuffer, it looks like it doesn't work ;) i set vga mode in grub but i get info that i use undefined mode and i can use only one from vesa vga
[14:35] <deadlock> How the hell do i add my current user to a new usergroup
[14:36] <gostone> well simple solution Slart, I plugged my key into mac, right clicked and renamed. I wish this would work in Ubuntu. It used to do this
[14:36] <darkfrog> Is MM mean mute or OO?
[14:36] <RealSpay_169070> where can I my picture ändern^^?
[14:36] <wols_> RealSpay_169070: ändern = change
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> deadlock: Please watch the language
[14:36] <RealSpay_169070> ok thx
[14:36] <thor> Condoulo there should be a line 'block.device = '/dev/hda3'
[14:37] <Condoulo> thor- yeah?
[14:37] <RealSpay_169070> where can i my picture change?
[14:37] <cyzie> wols_, have u look at the link?
[14:37] <RealSpay_169070> ok bye
[14:37] <Zikiti> Can someone give me a christmas gift by helping me solve my suspend to ram problem?
[14:37] <wols_> cyzie: I did and ti's the same old link without the info I wanted. there are only line 1-11. not line 14
[14:38] <frojnd> what's the path to the LAN ? In konqueror I had to write in a location: smb:/ What do I have to write here for ubuntu ?
[14:38] <thor> Condoulo well...it won't necessarily be sda3, but you should be able to identify both drives in that text file....see what devices they are. I suspect you will find /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1
[14:38] <Condoulo> thor- yeah, I found it
[14:38] <cyzie> wols_, it is , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49533/
[14:38] <Sunn_1> I just attemted to install the DVD playback feature in Ubuntu via Ubuntuguide.ORG . The problem is when I put a DVD in, it doesn't play.
[14:39] <Sam1337> !1337
[14:39] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[14:39] <wols_> cyzie: this is a different url than you gave me before...
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Andeh: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129517               froma google search using  ubuntu remove meta package   but the forums seem to have an issue this am
[14:39] <Condoulo> thor- it shows Valume partition number 0x5
[14:39] <wols_> cyzie: which x11vnc is installed or gets tried? the 0.9 version?
[14:40] <cyzie> wols_, it is installed before but when the system got into shit, the x11vnc wotn work anymore so im trying to reinstall it.
[14:40] <wols_> cyzie: don't use the gutsy backport one
[14:41] <thor> Condoulo nope...the line with the block device.../dev/hda or /dev/sda...
[14:41] <cyzie> wols_, ok, so how do i select another one ?
[14:41] <Stwange> can anyone tell me how to remount an ntfs partition? it's /dev/sda1
[14:41] <wols_> cyzie: remove the backports from your sources.list, install it
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: I think this link shows how to remove everything in a metapackage...   http://techaspect.net/2007/11/08/how-to-remove-any-meta-package-in-ubuntu/
[14:42] <shishirmk> Stwange:what do you mean remount?
[14:42] <Stwange> shishirmk, I dismounted it :) so maybe mount is the word im looking for
[14:42] <thor> Condoulo do you have multiple partitions on either of the drives?
[14:42] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: ah.. that actually looked usable.. thanks
[14:42] <Condoulo> thor- No. unless you count the partitions that automatically come with Ubuntu
[14:42] <cyzie> wols_, ok but is there a way to select gutsy/universe version before installing x11vnc?
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart: np, It is nice to learn as well as help in here
[14:43] <darkfrog> It's really sad that everything has gone so well with the switch from Fedora to Ubuntu and I'm stuck on sound. :o
[14:43] <polz> grrrr
[14:43] <thor> Condoulo did you find the device designations.../dev/sda or /dev/hda
[14:44] <aro> Anyone else timing out on us.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[14:44] <Condoulo> thor- its /dev/hdb1
[14:44] <polz> whenever I put my laptop to sleep, the USB CF reader resets itself
[14:44] <simplyubuntu> has anyone experienced this? http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usplashhm7.png
[14:44] <polz> and when it comes back to life, the card gets detected as a new device
[14:44] <shishirmk> Stwange:you have gutsy?
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> simplyubuntu: Please explain the problem in channel instead of just spamming us with the link
[14:44] <thor> Condoulo then that should be hd(1,0)
[14:44] <wols_> cyzie: don't use the backports, then the gutsy version will be taken
[14:45] <Condoulo> thor- ok. But I already tried that and had no luck upon boot. =/
[14:45] <thor> Condoulo that is the xp drive?
[14:45] <Condoulo> thor- yeah, the XP drive
[14:45] <aro> Is http://www.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[14:45] <simplyubuntu> i was just about to Jack_Sparrow
[14:45] <polz> does anyone have any ideas on how I could prevent that ?
[14:45] <cyzie> wols_, thanks. installing now.
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> simplyubuntu: thank you
[14:45] <Condoulo> thor- this is what I have in menu.lst for the XP. I have title, root, makeactive, and chainloader +1
[14:45] <cyzie> but the question is how to specify other repo to use during install of a package. ;)
[14:45] <Psyduck_> how do i add a new network on the Xchat?? I tried a lot of times but always ask if i put the wrong adreass
[14:45] <Slart> aro: works for me
[14:45] <wols_> simplyubuntu: still the same problem with all files in Lost+Found?
[14:46] <simplyubuntu> the progress bar in my usplash appears in the bottom left hand corner.... is that normal? http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=usplashhm7.png
[14:46] <Stwange> shishirmk, yeah
[14:47] <shishirmk> then i think if you restart it recognises it as a unmounted volume just right click and say mount
[14:47] <thor> Condoulo found this...http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/56461-grub-menu-lst-chainloader-help-needed.html...looks like he had the same problem....the solution seems to be at the end of the thread. Worth a try
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Did you ever think that using the unofficial repos are what caused your problems in the first place
[14:48] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, no, not really. not until the ram causign a lot of shit.
[14:48] <simplyubuntu> haha wols_, im touched that you remember :) i decided to just reinstall because it was too complicated... i did manage to salvage my var>cache>apt>archives debs, so i'll just apt-get install on the new machine and synaptic will use my old debs :P genius! all thanks to HardDisk, who seems to have left... and i think that all these people wanting to know why ubuntu site is down is because im doing a s*itload of updates right about now :P
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Potty mouth
[14:49] <simplyubuntu> anyone got anything similar to my usplash???
[14:50] <cyzie> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[14:50] <wols_> cyzie: RAM doesn't cause dependency errors
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > cyzie
[14:50] <cyzie> wols_, yes, it doesnt but like i said with example before, it cause a lot of problems..
[14:50] <n00bie> anyone else having trouble with rubyripper and freedb ?
[14:50] <Fire-> i got a  terratec aureon 5.1 which is recognized correctly by my ubuntu 7.10 system. actually i cant use any 5.1 sound, only 4.0. i tried the speaker-test 5.1, which worked fine. any ideas guys?
[14:50] <simplyubuntu> wols_ how does that sound?
[14:51] <cyzie> !ohmy > Jack_Sparrow
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cyzie: Behave yourself or leave
[14:51] <bazhang> cyzie: please stop
[14:52] <bazhang> no pm please cyzie, without asking first
[14:52] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, i'm here, just talking next door
[14:52] <HardDisk> brb
[14:52] <figuringout> hi guys, i'm on Gibbon - need help getting compiz up and running - getting white screen
[14:53] <Stwange> sorry to repeat, but can anyone tell me how to mount /dev/sda1 (NTFS) on gutsy?
[14:53] <HardDisk> !mount > Stwange
[14:53] <Stwange> thanks HardDisk
[14:53] <Roey> hello -- I've just now upgraded to Gutsy from Feisty and notice that Direct Rendering in X has been disabled....what's with that??  (intel 810 gr
[14:53] <wols_> !ntfs-3g > Stwange
[14:54] <Roey> (intel 810 graphics here; worked fine in Feisty)
[14:54] <Fire-> i got a  terratec aureon 5.1 which is recognized correctly by my ubuntu 7.10 system. actually i cant use any 5.1 sound, only 4.0. i tried the speaker-test 5.1, which worked fine. any ideas guys?
[14:54] <Stwange> wols_, I didn't think ntfs-3g allowed the partition to be editted?
[14:54] <simplyubuntu> hey HardDisk.... i reinstalled
[14:55] <joh> Alright, suddenly none of my vfat disks are able to automount. dmesg says: UDF-fs: No VRS found, Unable to identify CD-ROM format. Any idea what's wrong?
[14:55] <joh> Oh, and all the disks mount properly with a manual mount
[14:55] <shishirmk> try this command ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o force,locale=en_EN.UTF-8
[14:55] <Stwange> HardDisk, there's no "Disks" under System -> Administration
[14:56] <thor> Stwange  here is the line in my fstab for my ntfs partition http://pastebin.com/m61200537
[14:56] <shishirmk> application>system tools>ntfs configuration tool
[14:56] <shishirmk> Stwange:Did you try the command i gave?
[14:57] <madxzen> hi, can anyone help me with a problem concerning an external screen?
[14:57] <HardDisk> oh he's on ntfs
[14:57] <HardDisk> my bad
[14:57] <Stwange> shishirmk, WARNING: Couldn't set locale to 'en_EN.UTF-8' thus some file names may not be correct or visible. Please see the potential solution at http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#locale
[14:57] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, :)
[14:57] <vox> madxzen: whats the problem
[14:57] <Tyler> haha. That trick works
[14:57] <Tyler> I am not on my Windows install
[14:57] <Jandy> Jandy
[14:58] <shishirmk> remove that part and try!!
[14:58] <madxzen> well i've got a dell notebook and want to use another screen for it. problem is, when i change it, i don't see anything at all anymore
[14:58] <Stwange> shishirmk, never mind, that was just a warning, it's mounted it, I just expected it under Places, but it's in /media/sda1 :) thanks
[14:58] <shishirmk> i mean remove ,locale...
[14:58] <madxzen> and hence can't change beck *g
[14:58] <simplyubuntu> haha nice to see you again HardDisk... i reinstalled :(
[14:58] <away> hi to all
[14:58] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, well that's ok, just don't fsck again :)
[14:59] <simplyubuntu> but lucking my home partition kept all my little '.' folders in the home directory so i have pretty much the same look
[14:59] <shishirmk> Stwange: ok and if you want read/write capability check this applications>system tools>ntfs configuration tool
[14:59] <shishirmk> tick both option there
[14:59] <simplyubuntu> how can you say that HardDisk? there's no life without fscking!
[14:59] <Stwange> shishirmk, yeah I already have that setup, I just dismounted it by accident :)
[14:59] <figuringout> can someone tell me how to check what graphics card one has?
[14:59] <shishirmk> ok great
[15:00] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, yea but not when it's mounted.
[15:00] <simplyubuntu> and i copied all my old debs to the respective folder, so whenever i apt-get something it should usually look to the pre-downloaded debs, ubless theres a newversion... sound good?
[15:01] <Slart> figuringout: try lspci
[15:01] <simplyubuntu> ah well thats a different story, isnt it? :P
[15:01] <newbie> hi, I have for most of you one silly question
[15:01] <newbie> every user on my server can see other users home directory, what is right permission command to remove permissions from users to acess other person /home dir?
[15:01] <newbie> i know that I can find detailed permissions explanation on google, but I don't want to screw everything on beginning..
[15:03] <ikonia> newbie chmod 700 on th home dir's
[15:03] <madxzen> can anyone tell me how to use an external screen on a dell notebook with ATI graphics?
[15:05] <wols_> joh: the fact that vfat formatted disks aren't CD-ROMs should be a BIG hint
[15:05] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk, ive been thinking
[15:05] <nexyon> hello, I got a Pinnacle PCTV USB DVB-T device and scanning for channels worked (found the same 4 as in windows) but if I want to use tzap it says "error while parsing constellation (syntax error)" although I'm using the correct channels.conf file
[15:05] <Sunn_1> exit
[15:05] <neko> merry christmas people
[15:06] <nexyon> anyone able to help me? I'm under ubuntu7.04
[15:06] <joh> wols_: Eh? That's from the system log.
[15:06] <wopup> yeah of course
[15:06] <simplyubuntu> and i think i should set up something that regularly backs up my downloaded debs, selections list, and musica folder (??) and stores it on my "other" hd... whaddaya think/
[15:07] <wols_> joh: in that log it tried to mount a CD! not a vfat disk
[15:08] <neko> hi i am into trying scribus (some kind of Xpress clone) but it's look a little ugly
[15:08] <madxzen> can noone help me? heeeelp ;-)
[15:08] <joh> wols_: Found the error, apparently /dev/sdb1 was in fstab as a cd-rom.
[15:08] <wols_> joh: so either it's totally irrelevant to your problem or somewhere devide nodes got mixed up
[15:08] <neko> it is probably a kde apps, how do i make it look like other apps ?
[15:08] <joh> wols_: Thanks :)
[15:09] <neko> i mean do i need to install some qt / kde theme manager and/or some kind of theme ?
[15:10] <neko> madxzen what is your problem ?
[15:10] <madxzen> neko: i want to use a desktop-screen on my dell notebook with ATI graphics
[15:10] <neko> okey you want to make dualscreen
[15:11] <madxzen> yes exactly
[15:11] <figuringout> hi guys, i need to enable my ATI driver, in the restricted drivers panel it says it is running, but running fglrxinfo tells me that driver is " OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect"
[15:11] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, you should.
[15:11] <HardDisk> rsync and grsync for gui
[15:11] <neko> i once have some test with my dell (but intel 945 chipset) it have nearly work
[15:12] <neko> it doesn't work at all for you or it is just buggy ?
[15:12] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk, that simple? grsync?
[15:12] <madxzen> if i change it in settings, either screen works anymore after that
[15:12] <madxzen> it goes all black
[15:12] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, yep.
[15:13] <madxzen> and restarting ubuntu doesn't solve the problem. i've reinstalled it like the 4th time
[15:13] <simplyubuntu> well googling it, but can you tell me the basics?
[15:13] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, if you want to do a complete backup, sudo apt-get install sbackup
[15:13] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, basically it syncs your folders with an offline/network/online folder
[15:13] <HardDisk> ie copies
[15:13] <neko> you have not any graphical output now ?
[15:13] <madxzen> yes right now i have
[15:14] <madxzen> but resolution is wrong
[15:14] <madxzen> and in fact i only want to use the desktop screen instead of the notebook screen
[15:14] <HardDisk> sbackup will backup your ubuntu directories incase you want to restore it again with srestore, and yes gui as well.
[15:14] <Mark_tae> hi
[15:14] <neko> it seems you will need to edit your xorg.conf file
[15:14] <HardDisk> you can customize your backups
[15:14] <madxzen> manually?
[15:15] <neko> if you want dualscreens waiting for some better solution. as far as i know, because i don't own an ati to tell you more
[15:15] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, it will be located in admin/simple backup
[15:15] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk i dont have a problem reinstalling so long as i get my programs/prefs back
[15:15] <madxzen> neko: alright. the problem is i'm completely new to ubuntu/linux, so i don't want to mess around too much with those files
[15:16] <Mark_tae> hi.. I have a problem using fax modem..  Can anyone help me??
[15:16] <Vov4ik> hello
[15:16] <figuringout> [HELP!] :  hi guys, i need to enable my ATI driver, in the restricted drivers panel it says it is running, but running fglrxinfo tells me that driver is " OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect"
[15:16] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, well use sbackup then
[15:16] <HardDisk> create a complete backup and you can restore it if you ever have a system crash or whatnot
[15:17] <madxzen> neko: is there any manual out there how to reconfigure the xorg.conf?
[15:17] <HardDisk> it tars it into one big file
[15:17] <simplyubuntu> but sbackup will just back up everything on my comp?
[15:17] <neko> try on google
[15:17] <neko> but first check about your chipset
[15:17] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, yes, you can just add ignore folders from /media/
[15:17] <madxzen> what you mean?
[15:17] <neko> and dual screen issue on ubuntu
[15:17] <HardDisk> install it and check it out
[15:17] <HardDisk> im gonna have lunch
[15:17] <HardDisk> bbl
[15:17] <madxzen> ok, thank you
[15:18] <neko> maybe because you would found if there is already an easy way, or if it is pain in the ass
[15:18] <darkfrog> Why isn't there an /etc/modprobe.conf file on Ubuntu?
[15:18] <simplyubuntu> sounds a bit tedious dont ya think?
[15:18] <Mark_tae> hi.. it's first time here...  Do I just ask a question if I have one?
[15:18] <neko> is people use kde applications on their gnome ubuntu ?
[15:18] <neko> i mean like the scribus thing
[15:19] <simplyubuntu> and can i use rsync to update the file that sbackup makes?
[15:19] <neko> how do you make qt application look better ?
[15:19] <madxzen> cya guys
[15:20] <Mark_tae> Can I ask a question, plz? ^ ^??
[15:20] <bazhang> ask away Mark_tae
[15:20] <Mark_tae> oh Thanks
[15:20] <Mark_tae> I have a problem using Fax in ubuntu
[15:20] <ma> Why can't BitTornado remember the previous download it was doing after closing and reopening the download?
[15:20] <JonaTh> I want to fix my slow boot but my resolution is not supported at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Fix_Slow_boot.2Ffaulty_splash_screen
[15:20] <Mark_tae> 'm using Ubuntu 7.10 on Inspiron 9300.
[15:21] <JonaTh> How can I fix this then?
[15:21] <GHOST> hello why is xchat always run when i open a session?
[15:21] <Mark_tae> the questions I 'd like to ask are
[15:21] <JonaTh> I'm using 1280x800
[15:21] <Mark_tae> first, Ubuntu automatically installed software modem
[15:21] <Mark_tae> But after intensive search, I downloaded a driver from Dell
[15:21] <ma> !bittornado
[15:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittornado - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:22] <Mark_tae> I'd like to ask which one is right one..
[15:22] <Mark_tae> and I have a problem sending a fax..
[15:22] <Mark_tae> I just can't figure out how to use the program..
[15:22] <Mark_tae> I installed gfax..
[15:23] <HardDisk> ma, www.deluge-torrent.org
[15:23] <Mark_tae> I installed gfax, efax.. kdeprintfax..
[15:23] <Mark_tae> can't make it work..
[15:23] <ma> HardDisk: Thanks, I will check it out
[15:23] <Mark_tae> I guess I just don't know how to use them..
[15:24] <simplyubuntu> HardDisk im confused. should i do sbackup and rsync, or either one?
[15:24] <newbie> a bit bumping
[15:24] <newbie> [16:01] <newbie> hi, I have for most of you one silly question
[15:24] <newbie> [16:01] <newbie> every user on my server can see other users home directory, what is right permission command to remove permissions from users to acess other person /home dir?
[15:24] <Mark_tae> I'm also not sure whether the modem is working properly..
[15:24] <mjkelly93> i cant get my onboard audio to work, only my usb sound card, anyone know why i cant insert the snd-hda-intel module?
[15:24] <alexbobp> Hi, I just got a Zune for christmas.  Is there any hope of me being able to use it from Ubuntu?
[15:24] <Mark_tae> anyone can help me?
[15:25] <HardDisk> simplyubuntu, depending on what backup you want.
[15:25] <HardDisk> give me a few minutes im eating
[15:25] <Mark_tae> I'd like to send a fax..
[15:25] <HardDisk> once im done we'll chat some more
[15:25] <simplyubuntu> sure sure... take your time
[15:26] <mjkelly93> anyone familiar with alsa?
[15:27] <kaje> Is there some known problem where a keyboard stops responding in gutsy after the system runs for a while (24hours)?
[15:28] <shishirmk> has any1 used gos package on ubuntu?
[15:28] <JonaTh> ! alsa | mjkelly93
[15:28] <ubotu> mjkelly93: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:28] <Rabiddog> wow my system load 22.03
[15:28] <kazol2> What is the path of the DNS config file?
[15:29] <JY> ÄãºÃ
[15:29] <Batz69> for the dns client /etc/resolv.conf
[15:29] <kazol2> !unicode | JY
[15:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unicode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:29] <kazol2> Batz69: thx
[15:30] <JY> thx
[15:30] <Batz69> np
[15:30] <bundagan> how safe it is to change my sources to hardy and install a few packages only available in hardy, and then change back to the gusty sources?
[15:31] <ares623> i have a bunch of .wma music files. I want to play them on a stereo which also supports mp3 cd's.. what would be best? Analog audio or mp3?
[15:31] <bazhang> bundagan: not safe
[15:32] <bundagan> bazhang, not safe even for just 3 packages?
[15:33] <bazhang> bundagan: if you have to ask, then it is not safe
[15:33] <AndyR> bundagan, it will almost always break at some point
[15:34] <bundagan> i see, thanks
[15:35] <AndyR> bundagan, better to wait til its in backborts or compile from source yourself
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> Hey
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> merry christmas everyone
[15:35] <ares623> i have a bunch of .wma music files. I want to play them on a stereo which also supports mp3 cd's.. what would be best? Analog audio or mp3?
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> Guess what!
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> I got an xbox 360
[15:35] <hume> i'm trying to create a dvd wit a menu with qdvdauthor and then burning with k3b, but menu won
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> what did you guys get ?
[15:35] <ares623> socks
[15:35] <hume> wont show, anyone got advice?
[15:35] <bazhang> ekim|dt-linux: offtopic coal
[15:35] <ekim|dt-linux> anyway
[15:35] <GHOST> hello why is xchat run automatically when i open a session?
[15:36] <ekim|dt-linux> last night  was running out of space
[15:36] <ekim|dt-linux> so I did sudo rm -rf /var/cache/*
[15:36] <ekim|dt-linux> was that a really bad thing to do
[15:36] <ekim|dt-linux> I did that in windows...and it was fune
[15:36] <hume> GHOST, probably it was running when you shut down, and the session was saved that way
[15:36] <bazhang> hume: devede doesn't do it?
[15:36] <GMoo> OMG
[15:36] <GMoo> i found help
[15:36] <GMoo> thank you jeebus
[15:36] <ekim|dt-linux> it was like 3:00 in the morning and I djust didn't think about it
[15:36] <GHOST> hume i think so ty
[15:36] <GMoo> btw, merry christmas everyone
[15:36] <GMoo> btw, i'm a comlete fucking n00b
[15:37] <hume> bazhang, haven't tried it, better choice than qdvdauthor then?
[15:37] <ekim|dt-linux> I get this error
[15:37] <ekim|dt-linux> debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[15:37] <HaRd-DiScKzZz> rver irc.virtual-irc.org
[15:37] <kaje> Is there some known problem where a keyboard stops responding in gutsy after the system runs for a while (24hours)?
[15:37] <GMoo> okay check this
[15:37] <ekim|dt-linux> what does it mean ?
[15:37] <GMoo> how do i open up a .rpm folder
[15:37] <bazhang> language gmoo
[15:37] <tmjb> any idea why instalation of  my ubuntu lts 6.0.6.1 terminal screen works  very slow and cpu is IntelCore4
[15:37] <hume> GHOST, try closing xchat before exiting next time, and see how that works
[15:37] <GMoo> alright bazhang
[15:37] <mc2> GMoo: open an rpm folder?
[15:37] <GMoo> yes
[15:37] <mc2> maybe you mean install?
[15:37] <GMoo> yes
[15:37] <GMoo> i do
[15:37] <GMoo> mean install
[15:37] <mc2> sudo alien -i <rpm>
[15:37] <GMoo> what
[15:37] <shishirmk> GMoo: It must be a .rpm package not a folder
[15:37] <GMoo> also
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> guys help me out
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[15:38] <GMoo> how do i get to my command line from ubuntu lol
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> what does it mean ?
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> GMoo, alt+f2 ; gnome-terminal
[15:38] <xcst> im using gaim internet messenger and i want to send a file thru the messenger how is it possible?
[15:38] <GMoo> yesn a .rpm file... an rpm packagte
[15:38] <Andeh> Question: I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu on my laptop. Upon bootup, no image is visible, so I booted in safe mode and ran GDM. It told me HAL isnt running. Also, when I do anything that requires admin access, it asks me for password, says password correct, then tells me I dont have priveleges to do that. Help?!?!
[15:38] <shishirmk> applications>accessories>terminal
[15:38] <GHOST> hume ok
[15:38] <GMoo> ekim|dt-linux: i get the rror 'could not display run dialog
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> weird...what did you do ?
[15:38] <GMoo> ekim|dt-linux: "unable to laod file /user/share/gnoe=pane/glade/panel-run-dialog.glade
[15:38] <ekim|dt-linux> applications>accessories>terminal
[15:39] <GMoo> eh i just intallted it last night
[15:39] <GMoo> okay one sec
[15:39] <GHOST> Andeh you again ;)
[15:39] <Andeh> GHOST: Yeah. Awesome.
[15:39] <Andeh> D:>
[15:39] <GMoo> ekim|dt-linux: "failed to execute child process "gnome-terminal" (input/output error)
[15:39] <GHOST> lot a probs in linux :(
[15:39] <ekim|dt-linux> wow...your system is hosed
[15:39] <Andeh> yeah
[15:39] <larson9999> hmmm, firefox is using yahoo now for in the url space searches?
[15:39] <ekim|dt-linux> when did you install it ?
[15:39] <GMoo> lol ekim|dt-linux
[15:39] <GMoo> LAST NIGHT
[15:39] <ekim|dt-linux> if there is no data on it...just reinstall
[15:39] <GMoo> okay
[15:39] <Andeh> What is the command to run HAL?
[15:39] <GMoo> i'm going to reinstall
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> reinstalling ubuntu is not likereinstalling wimndows
[15:40] <GMoo> andatche its .hal
[15:40] <Andeh> Cause if it aint running, i might as well try that
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> ubuntu is like the only os that you can browe the web while installing
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> it is beautiful
[15:40] <GMoo> lol good ponit ekim
[15:40] <GMoo> i seen that
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> anyway...what does "debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" mean
[15:40] <GMoo> it froze up on me multiple times
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> weird ?
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> it worked fine on my system
[15:40] <GMoo> brb, reinstalling
[15:40] <GMoo> i'm running a POS system, ekim|dt-linux
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> you might want to try the alternate install cd , without the pretty gui
[15:40] <ekim|dt-linux> I used ubuntu server on my old p3 laptop
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> works like a dream
[15:41] <GMoo> well i mean i had to try a few times
[15:41] <GMoo> yeah ekiczeki am running a 450 MHZ PIII
[15:41] <mc2> GMoo: are you running kubuntu?
[15:41] <GMoo> 512 MB Ram
[15:41] <GMoo> no
[15:41] <mc2> maybe you dont need to reinstall
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> dude...I installed ubuntu on a 700 mhz p3 with 128 ram
[15:41] <GMoo> 128. crap
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> it runs beautiful
[15:41] <GMoo> thats wrong to have such little ram
[15:41] <mc2> i installed mine on 500mhz w/ 64mb ram
[15:41] <GMoo> on that system
[15:41] <xcst> ei need help here
[15:41] <GMoo> lol okay okay
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> I run openbox on it
[15:41] <GMoo> i installed mine on a 3 mhz with 6 MB ram
[15:41] <GMoo> so take it!
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> beautiful
[15:41] <xcst> sometimes my windows border dissapears
[15:41] <GMoo> brb, reinstalling
[15:41] <ekim|dt-linux> I mean...I can't fun compiz or anything on it
[15:42] <GMoo> one harddrive is fuxorzed so
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> but it makes a great thin-client for my main pc
[15:42] <bundagan> anybody tried GLSL with ATI's drivers?
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> also...the best tool I have ever found is gparted
[15:42] <GMoo> thin-client? what does that mean
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> it is amazing!
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> it means that nothing is actually processed on the laptop ... I just vnc into my main pc with it
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> the laptop has a 10gb hard drive
[15:42] <ekim|dt-linux> but it doesn't matter because I stream everything from my main pc
[15:42] <GMoo> ah copy that
[15:42] <GMoo> vnc is laggy for me
[15:43] <ekim|dt-linux> try mplayer
[15:43] <ekim|dt-linux> I don't like the ubuntu vlc
[15:43] <ekim|dt-linux> I will make a deb of the latest
[15:43] <GMoo> i use it for the downstairs comp... i'm running win2k on two computers and winxp pro on two
[15:43] <Andeh> Help! When I try do do anything that needs admin, it asks for pass, says pass is okay, but then says I dont have access to that!
[15:43] <GMoo> and now linux on one....
[15:43] <Andeh> How can I use the terminal to give myself admin access?
[15:43] <ekim|dt-linux> win2k was the best version imho
[15:43] <GMoo> brb
[15:43] <Andeh> Cause sudo runs fine
[15:43] <kane77> how do I make ubuntu play all videos in mplayer?
[15:43] <GMoo> i agree ekim|dt-linux
[15:43] <ekim|dt-linux> it wasn't shiny...it just worked
[15:43] <GMoo> very stable
[15:43] <GMoo> brb
[15:43] <mc2> Andeh: sudo su
[15:43] <GMoo> win2k pro yeah
[15:43] <GMoo> brb
[15:43] <Andeh> mc2: Lol?
[15:43] <mc2> gives you admin access until the session ends.
[15:44] <GHOST> sudoku
[15:44] <soundray> Andeh: don't do sudo su please
[15:44] <GHOST> lol
[15:44] <Andeh> soundray: Why not?
[15:44] <mc2> soundray: why?
[15:44] <Andeh> soundray: I did it anyway, and it still tells me I dont have access to users-admin
[15:44] <Andeh> What the hell happening?
[15:44] <soundray> mc2, Andeh: sudo -i is a good way to get a root shell. sudo su gives you a mixed environment that makes you more likely to mess up
[15:44] <soundray> Andeh: no swearing please
[15:44] <mc2> Andeh: what are you trying to do anyway
[15:45] <Andeh> Root doesnt have access to users-admin
[15:45] <ekim|dt-linux> Guys come on ...help me out
[15:45] <ekim|dt-linux> what does "debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" mean
[15:45] <Andeh> mc2: Well, the whole thing is fuxored. HAL doesnt run at boot, I need to start in recovery mode and load GDM manually, and I have no internet
[15:45] <Andeh> Also, root doesnt have any priveliges!
[15:45] <Andeh> D:<
[15:45] <pingu> good morning and merry chirstmas to those who celebrate, happy holidays to everyone else
[15:45] <grout> Merry Christmas everyone!!!!
[15:46] <GHOST> ;)
[15:46] <arthur> Hi all
[15:46] <soundray> Andeh: have you played with file permissions?
[15:46] <GHOST> hullo
[15:46] <arthur> Merry Christmas-Happy Holidays
[15:46] <GHOST> ty
[15:46] <mc2> Andeh: that's messed up. i think it'll be fixed faster if you reinstalled...
[15:46] <arthur> i have a question
[15:46] <GHOST> yep
[15:46] <Andeh> soundray: I did NOTHING
[15:47] <Andeh> mc2: No, I just spent 2 hours installing
[15:47] <grout> Im running a core 2 quad core machine running the x386 version, and im wondering if i'll see any benefit to to running x64?
[15:47] <pingu> so i want to watch a movie i got for christmas but ubuntu doesn't want to run it what program do i need to install. i have a GStreamer and the filesystem type is udf.
[15:47] <Andeh> mc2: Not counting the other 8 hours
[15:47] <pingu> i really really want to watch the 3rd pirates
[15:47] <soundray> grout: only if you run memory I/O intensive tasks, like video encoding.
[15:47] <Andeh> When I do sudo -i, then type in users-admin, it says I cant access the system config. Why?
[15:47] <GHOST> lo
[15:47] <soundray> grout: or possibly if you need more than 3GB
[15:48] <arthur> is there a way to start my firewall at boot? i listed it in prefrences/sessions but i have to run it with rood privilages.. is there a way to make it load at boot?
[15:48] <mc2> pingu: what kind of movie is it? dvd/vcd?
[15:48] <GHOST> pingu  did you install libdvdcss?
[15:48] <pingu> its a dvd and it filesystem type is udf
[15:48] <k9000> hi folks, i'm having a hard time trying to mount and browse audio cds, though they work fine with sound juicer, any hints?
[15:48] <hume> bazhang, does devede create menu for the included films? there was no option for that in the program 8have it runing in the background now)?
[15:48] <grout> soundray: Ok thanks i'll stick with x86
[15:48] <xcst> why do my window border sometimes disappear? im using gutsy
[15:48] <soundray> Andeh: your system is in a mess. It will be best to reinstall. You will manage faster the second time.
[15:48] <pingu> yes i have installed libdvdcss but ill double check
[15:48] <hume> k9000, audio cd's are not to be mounted
[15:48] <k9000> hume: but can i still do that?
[15:49] <GHOST> xcst is your window manager installed?
[15:49] <mc2> pingu: you can also just try using mplayer or vlc
[15:49] <Andeh> soundray: I did absolutely nothing after installing. After installing, it was already messed up.
[15:49] <mc2> worked out of the box on my case
[15:49] <Andeh> I don't think reinstalling will help
[15:49] <x-ip> hi, i need a packager, some volunteer ?
[15:49] <hume> k9000, guess so, but you'll have to specify file system, mount -t isoxxx whatever it is..
[15:49] <Andeh> and I dont want to spend another 2 hours reinstalling anyway.
[15:49] <xcst> GHOST, what window manager?
[15:49] <cambrant> Hi, I'm wondering if it would be possible to bridge an ethernet connection to a WLAN NIC, so that a computer with one wireless NIC and one ethernet NIC could work as a wireless gateway for one other computer?
[15:49] <GHOST> xcst for gnome i think it is nautilus
[15:49] <x-ip> the proyect is http://wiki.aonx.com.ar, its in spanish, i can help to translate what is needed to english, but i use slackware and need a .deb packager
[15:50] <x-ip> help is big appreciated
[15:50] <mc2> Andeh: probably a result of either a messed up installation or a messed up installer. you probably should reinstall and if the problem reappears download a better iso(i recommend from the torrents)
[15:50] <tmjb> On my mainboard Gigabyte P35-DS4 raid sync SW raid (mdadm) slows down computer that much that is not usable to continue instalation.  Any ideas why is this happening ??
[15:50] <xcst> GHOST, how do i know if my window manager is installed?
[15:50] <bazhang> http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html hume; not sure here is the home page
[15:50] <GHOST> xcst mayby  try sudo apt-get install nautilus to be sure
[15:50] <soundray> cambrant: yes, that's straightforward to set up with firestarter
[15:51] <Andeh> mc2: I did download a better iso, the results were even worse.
[15:51] <Andeh> mc2: This install from a shipit CD
[15:51] <cambrant> soundray: firestarter as in the iptables "wizard" app, right?
[15:51] <soundray> cambrant: exactly
[15:52] <cambrant> soundray: any ideas on how to do that? i'm not really sure how to connect a wireless nic to another wireless nic...
[15:52] <x-ip> cambrant, read about ad-hoc
[15:52] <mc2> Andeh: have you tried putting in a different OS? maybe your drive or ram is corrupt.
[15:52] <soundray> cambrant: check out the options it gives you under "internet connection sharing"
[15:52] <xcst> GHOST, i have my window manager installed
[15:52] <cambrant> thank you very much, i'll look into it.
[15:52] <kaje> Anyone having trouble with GMail locking up firefox in Gutsy?
[15:53] <Andeh> mc2: Yeah, i tried installing Windows XP six times, each time it was a different error, it couldnt find this file, or no operatin system, or it exploded all the partitions.
[15:53] <Andeh> :/
[15:53] <GHOST> xcst ok  but its weird though; are u using compiz?
[15:53] <xcst> GHOST, yes
[15:53] <Andeh> what is the command to give an account root access?
[15:54] <GHOST> xcst ok infortunatly i dont know about compiz :s
[15:54] <soundray> Andeh: 'sudo adduser username admin'
[15:54] <GHOST> i am a newbie here
[15:54] <mc2> Andeh: (1)check your ram with the livecd ram check option (2)your drive is broke, you need to replace it.
[15:54] <xcst> thanks
[15:54] <neumind> when windows.iso burning need push button add files to project or burn the image directly?
[15:54] <evan__> help my compiz fusion acts wierd --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49537/ i do have xgl present --> xserver-xgl
[15:54] <soundray> Andeh: mc2 is spot on
[15:54] <xcst> im using gaim, how do you send files thru gaim instant messenger?
[15:54] <GHOST> xcst no prob nice holiday
[15:54] <mc2> ive had those random crashes on my old system because of memory corruptions too, a year ago.
[15:54] <Andeh> okay
[15:54] <ekim|dt-linux> so what does = "  debconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat" mean
[15:55] <pingu> well what i was really wanting to do is just add to the video program i already have which is gsteamer so if i just knew which program to install for gstreamer i would be set
[15:55] <Andeh> soundray: it says i am already a member of the admin group
[15:55] <Andeh> yet it still tells me I can't do this and I cant do that
[15:55] <Andeh> :/
[15:55] <Andeh> Ill test the ram now..
[15:56] <GMoo> hey hye
[15:56] <GMoo> i'm installing ubuntu.. what file system do i use
[15:56] <GHOST> hullo
[15:56] <GMoo> like ec3 or uh... what
[15:56] <GHOST> ext3
[15:57] <GMoo> you are correcting me or reccomnding i use that or both
[15:57] <soundray> x-ip: you might get an answer in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[15:57] <GMoo> !ip
[15:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:57] <x-ip> soundray, i tryed ubuntu-devel ... going to ubuntu-motu, thx
[15:57] <GHOST> GMoo im not sure but i think its called ext3 :)
[15:57] <GMoo> lol ubotu
[15:57] <GMoo> ok
[15:58] <soundray> GMoo: use ext3
[15:58] <GMoo> ty
[15:58] <GHOST> lol
[15:58] <GHOST> !ext3
[15:58] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[15:58] <GHOST> yup :p
[15:58] <GMoo> ty
[15:58] <Andeh> k, running memtest
[15:58] <GHOST> ntsf is windows
[15:58] <Andeh> how long memtest usually take?
[15:58] <xcst> how do you connect to a wireless connection? im using gutsy thanks
[15:59] <mc2> Andeh: depends on how fast your ram is and the type of tests.
[15:59] <soundray> Andeh: it runs in a loop. You should leave it overnight unless you get errors sooner. Purists run it for a week.
[16:00] <Andeh> soundray: O.o
[16:00] <Andeh> I needed this laptop with ubuntu installed for this morning
[16:00] <GMoo> !swap3
[16:00] <Andeh> not for next week
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swap3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <GMoo> !swap
[16:00] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[16:00] <Andeh> D:<<<
[16:01] <Andeh> mc2: So um, you reccomend I just reinstall it?
[16:01] <Andeh> A seventh time?
[16:02] <soundray> Andeh: everything indicates that you have bad hardware, so this is the best we can give you
[16:02] <soundray> Andeh: try it on another machine perhaps
[16:02] <mc2> Andeh: what soundray said. :)
[16:02] <Andeh> soundray: I am running it on another machine now
[16:02] <Andeh> this one
[16:02] <Andeh> running more than perfect
[16:02] <soundray> Andeh: there you go. Hardware issues.
[16:02] <Andeh> but you cant compare a pentium 4 with half gig ram and a dual core with 4 GB ram
[16:03] <Suva> Hey, hellow
[16:03] <soundray> Andeh: which is which?
[16:03] <Suva> What is the recommended Bittorrent client for Ubuntu desktop?
[16:03] <Andeh> soundray: guess :P
[16:03] <Andeh> Suva: you can try Azereus
[16:03] <bazhang> transmission
[16:03] <HardDisk> Suva, www.deluge-torrent.org
[16:03] <soundray> Andeh: get an exchange for the faulty laptop. With that hardware, it should still be within warranty.
[16:03] <Andeh> soundray: First I thought it was the laptops crappy cd drive that kept getting errors, but the shipit disc installed fine.
[16:03] <mc2> Suva: i like ktorrent
[16:04] <Andeh> Or at least, it thinks it did.
[16:04] <tmjb> looks like any disk operations on P35-DS4 are very slow
[16:04] <mc2> but ymmv
[16:04] <Suva> Andeh: I don't want azureus, it's java
[16:04] <HardDisk> transmission is nice, light, but no features.
[16:04] <Andeh> Suva: you asked :P
[16:04] <HardDisk> and Azureus is java based
[16:04] <soundray> !torrent | Suva
[16:04] <ubotu> Suva: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[16:04] <HardDisk> suva, go with what i pointed out.
[16:04] <Andeh> what wrong with java?
[16:04] <HardDisk> resource hog.
[16:04] <xcst> how do you connect to a wireless connection? im using gutsy thanks
[16:04] <Andeh> mc2: My memory seems fine.
[16:04] <punz> deludge is definitely the best solution available at the moment
[16:05] <laughzilla> hi :) how xome with ubuntu 7.10 freshly installed 5 days ago, i can't see some .swf apps (ie: vid clips & games) on the web ie: revver.com, yet i can see others, ie: youtube.??
[16:05] <Suva> I want something for gnome
[16:05] <soundray> !wifi > xcst, please read the private message from ubotu
[16:05] <soundray> Andeh: you can't conclude that after five minutes
[16:05] <Andeh> soundray: It could be the hard drive. The memory is okay.
[16:05] <HardDisk> Suva, www.deluge-torrent.org
[16:05] <Andeh> soundray: meh.
[16:06] <Andeh> soundray: Can I conclude it after 3 years of faultless computing?
[16:06] <wols_> Andeh: smartmontools can tell you
[16:06] <Roly> alex
[16:07] <Andeh> wols_: Smartmontools?
[16:07] <Roly> there is no chance of gettting zune on ubuntu at the moment
[16:07] <Roly> although there are people working on it
[16:07] <Andeh> wols_: Remember, this is a machine with no internet, no admin access, no HAL, and no working normal bootup sequence.
[16:07] <wols_> Andeh: livecd?
[16:07] <Andeh> Meh
[16:08] <Andeh> wols_: Does it come on the livecd?
[16:08] <reportingsjr> In nano, how do you save a file?
[16:08] <HardDisk> Roly, libmtp has been dead for a while.
[16:08] <piyush> my system says group admin does not exist
[16:08] <Andeh> reportingsjr: ctrl + x, then it will ask you to save it or not.
[16:08] <alexbobp> Roly: thanks
[16:08] <soundray> reportingsjr: Ctrl-O (it says at the bottom)
[16:09] <reportingsjr> .. which to choose *hmm*
[16:09] <piyush> i want to give root privileges to user
[16:09] <alexbobp> Roly: I'm going to take it back and get a player that's not designed for noninteroperability
[16:09] <HardDisk> getting zune to work will require the zune firmware to be modified.
[16:09] <Roly> alex
[16:09] <Roly> keep it
[16:09] <Roly> i love mine
[16:09] <reportingsjr> soundray: It says things like ^G, ^O, etc.. is ^ ctrl?
[16:09] <HardDisk> I like my zune.
[16:09] <soundray> reportingsjr: yes
[16:09] <HardDisk> and use vmware when i have to
[16:09] <HardDisk> virtualbox rather :)
[16:09] <HardDisk> it is worth the setup.
[16:10] <reportingsjr> soundray: Ok, I hit that and got a bunch more options =\
[16:10] <Vagant> Greetings!
[16:10] <Andeh> what does "install with driver update CD" do?
[16:10] <Vagant> I would like to know:
[16:10] <Vagant> How I see which version of ubuntu server I am running?
[16:10] <Vagant> How can I see programs, that load on boot?
[16:10] <soundray> Vagant: cat /etc/lsb-release
[16:10] <Vagant> How can I disble KDE or GNOME on my ubuntu server?
[16:10] <Vagant> I would like it to start in command line?
[16:11] <soundray> Vagant: ask one question at a time please
[16:11] <HardDisk> cat /etc/issue
[16:11] <Vagant> Sorry.
[16:11] <Vagant> Do you know the answers?
[16:11] <HardDisk> in cli, type cat /etc/issue
[16:11] <soundray> Vagant: cat /etc/lsb-release
[16:11] <Vagant> Ok.
[16:11] <Vagant> I got that I have ubuntu server 6.10
[16:11] <HardDisk> or lsb_release -a :)
[16:11] <Andeh> Can someone tell me about the OEM Install option?
[16:11] <Vagant> How can I now disable gui?
[16:12] <HardDisk> you want to disable it, or remove it?
[16:12] <Roly> hello reportings
[16:12] <Vagant> Well for now just disable it not to turn on on boot?
[16:12] <soundray> Vagant: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove' to disable
[16:12] <Vagant> Even if I reboot it will not show?
[16:12] <soundray> Vagant: yes
[16:13] <Vagant> Ok.
[16:13] <HardDisk> you need to edit your kernel line (or replicate your kernel entry) on /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[16:13] <HardDisk> Remove 'quiet' option from kernel line to see a boot processes in usplash screen
[16:13] <Vagant> It did.
[16:13] <HardDisk> To avoid gdm from load try to install something like sysv-rc-conf (console) or bum (gui) and remove the gdm load from start level.
[16:13] <Vagant> It removed some stuff related to gdm
[16:14] <soundray> Vagant: it disabled the startup links. If you have kde, you may have to do the same with kdm
[16:15] <Vagant> Great.
[16:15] <soundray> family time
[16:16] <Vagant> And how do I disable samba from starting automaticaly?
[16:16] <Vagant> What is equivalent to autoexec.bat on ubuntu? :)
[16:16] <Vagant> I am quite a newbie.
[16:17] <yubwyub>  hello
[16:17] <sunnug> Vagant:  which version of ubuntu?
[16:17] <tonyyarusso> Vagant: There's no such thing ;)  You can use BUM (GUI) or sysv-rc-conf (CLI) to remove samba from runlevel 2.
[16:17] <steini> hello
[16:18] <yubwyub> I have trouble with two monitors with ubunu... any ideas?
[16:18] <xcst> how do i connect to a wireless connection? is it autodetect?
[16:18] <Vagant> tonyyarusso... ssysv-rc?
[16:18] <Vagant> How do I run this?
[16:18] <yubwyub> the starting logo shows on both monitors, but the desk only on the primary
[16:18] <wols_> Vagant: sysv-rc
[16:18] <Suva> I get so slow download with deluge :P
[16:18] <tonyyarusso> Vagant: 'sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf', then 'sysv-rc-conf'
[16:18] <yubwyub> with ubuntu7.10
[16:19] <wols_> xcst: mostly it's not
[16:19] <k335> xcst you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[16:19] <wols_> !wireless | xcst
[16:19] <ubotu> xcst: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:19] <wols_> xcst: first thing is to know what wlan card/chip you have
[16:19] <xcst> k335, ubuntu
[16:19] <Vagant> tonyyarusso... Tenx... I'll try now.
[16:19] <GMoo> how do i stop join/leave messages, jeezzze
[16:19] <mc3> how do i auto identify my nick on xchat?
[16:19] <k335> my ubuntu did it automatic but i needed to enter the ssid and password
[16:19] <tonyyarusso> mc3: in the Server Password field of the "Edit Server" area.
[16:20] <Vagant> tonyyarusso... Should I remove all run levels?
[16:20] <Vagant> What does it mean 1 2 ..5 0 6 S ?
[16:20] <wols_> Vagant: only if you want your ubuntu stop working
[16:20] <wols_> then yes
[16:20] <Vagant> Samba has from 2-5
[16:20] <steini> hey, what is the preffered terminal emlator? xterm? aterm?
[16:20] <tonyyarusso> Vagant: If you don't know anything about runlevels, then you only need to worry about 2 :P
[16:20] <yubwyub> ...so anybody have any ideas avut multimonitor support?
[16:21] <Vagant> But if I remove samba from runlevel 2 then can i turn it on manualy?
[16:21] <Vagant> ./etc/initd.d/samba start?
[16:21] <kane77> steini, whatever you prefer
[16:21] <xcst> wols_, for example im sitting in a cafe with a wireless networking, how do i connect to their wireless connection?
[16:21] <mc3> tonyyarusso: where ca i find that?(edit server area)
[16:21] <tonyyarusso> Vagant: sudo invoke-rc.d samba {start,stop,restart}
[16:21] <wols_> xcst: gnome-network-manager
[16:21] <tonyyarusso> mc3: File > Servers iiirc
[16:21] <mc3> i am using xchat from the repo(not xchat-gnome)
[16:21] <tonyyarusso> -oi
[16:21] <Vagant> Great.
[16:22] <Vagant> tonyyarusso... Tenx!
[16:22] <wols_> xcst: if drveris are already loaded and working
[16:22] <Vagant> It works!
[16:22] <steini> i guess i'll have to try them all then..|-)
[16:22] <tonyyarusso> :)
[16:22] <yubwyub> I guess most people have only one screen...
[16:22] <kane77> steini, for me gnome-terminal is just fine :)
[16:23] <xcst> wols_, sori i didnt get the gnome-network-manager
[16:23] <xcst> wols_, what should i do with that?
[16:23] <Suva> I wish bittorrent could download files linearly
[16:23] <Suva> So I could stream movies and stuff :P
[16:23] <Andeh> Hi. I think there is a bug in the Ubuntu installer if you choose Croatian as the language. If my theory is proved correct, where do i post it?
[16:24] <wols_> xcst: run it
[16:24] <bazhang> !launchpad
[16:24] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[16:24] <wols_> xcst: but do you have the drivers for your card loaded properly?
[16:24] <piyush> my sys says i m not sudoer
[16:24] <Andeh> fank you.
[16:25] <piyush> when i try useradd piyush admin
[16:25] <piyush> it says admin group does not exist
[16:25] <Andeh> piyush: Heh, youre lucky. My sys doesnt have graphical bootup, doesnt have HAL, root has no priveliges. But sudo works!
[16:25] <Andeh> xD
[16:25] <Andeh> brb food
[16:25] <xcst> wols_, it said that "could not open location file"
[16:25] <piyush> :)
[16:26] <BruceM91> how easy is it to install gutsy on an external harddrive
[16:26] <piyush> andeh: so any help??
[16:26] <mc3> tonyyarusso: xchat does not seem to have a file button
[16:27] <tonyyarusso> mc3: Oh?  What tabs are there?
[16:27] <mc3> all i can see is xchat, view, server, settings, window and help
[16:27] <tonyyarusso> mc3: ah, try "xchat" then
[16:27] <Pros599> Hello.
[16:27] <tonyyarusso> mc3: Or Server...they've changed since I used it
[16:27] <Pros599> can anyone help me with a touchpad?
[16:27] <al-_-Gir> someone know about alternative to VENTRILO ?
[16:27] <Pros599> It is way too sensitvie.
[16:27] <mc3> ah got it
[16:27] <mc3> thanks
[16:27] <mc3> xchat -> network list? :)
[16:28] <khelll> i want to download skype, but i dont know what file to pick, debian Etch ,or Feisty Fawn , am using kubuntu
[16:28] <tonyyarusso> mc3: sounds right
[16:28] <wols_> khelll: ubuntu of course
[16:29] <Pros599> I am running ubuntu hardy heron on an hp dv 6589...(pavillion note book)  for some reason the track pad is way too sensitive.  any fix to this anyone knows of?
[16:29] <tonyyarusso> Pros599: #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[16:29] <Pros599> Oh.
[16:29] <Pros599> Thanks
[16:29] <sunnug> which parameter was it on gconf-editor to stop displaying the mounted partitions on the desktop?
[16:30] <HardDisk> khelll, choose fiesty in the skype.com website, download 2.0 for webcam support
[16:30] <HardDisk> khelll, www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/beta/
[16:30] <khelll> thanks
[16:30] <HardDisk> !hardy | Pros599
[16:30] <ubotu> Pros599: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:31] <HardDisk> gotta trigger him :)
[16:31] <Pros599> Thanks.  iI am in there.
[16:31] <Pros599> Anyone know if the gutsy issues with hp notebooks have been fixed yet/
[16:31] <Pros599> Because i know alsa didnt work, as well as sleep and hibernate
[16:32] <HardDisk> Pros599, not all notebooks
[16:32] <HardDisk> it's dependent on the chipsets involved.
[16:32] <Pros599> Yea...
[16:32] <Pros599> Well all the issues in gutsy
[16:33] <sunnug> which parameter was it on gconf-editor to stop displaying the mounted partitions on the desktop?
[16:33] <Pros599> are fixed in hardy if that he.ps.
[16:33] <Pros599> helps*
[16:33] <HardDisk> your issues != all issues.
[16:33] <karalaine> hey, why when I'm using xgl + compiz fusion on 7.04 there is no shutdown or restart buttons. only logout
[16:33] <Pros599> in the terminal type shutdown
[16:33] <HardDisk> people can sleep/hibernate/alsa without glitches, as I said, depends on your chipsets.
[16:33] <Pros599> that will fix it.
[16:33] <Pros599> Yes... but the sound?
[16:33] <HardDisk> check the driver chipset involved.
[16:34] <HardDisk> you have to realize its not ubuntu's fault for these glitches.
[16:34] <Pros599> yes i know.
[16:34] <Pros599> it is hps fault
[16:34] <HardDisk> not really.
[16:34] <HardDisk> it's the hardware manufacturer that doesn't release the drivers.
[16:34] <Pros599> Karaline: To shutdown the computer, type shutdown in the terminal....  To restart, type shutdown -r
[16:34] <Pros599> Hmm.
[16:35] <Pros599> Im sick of vista though ^_^
[16:35] <mc3> !offtopic
[16:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:35] <iNeo> karalaine: shutdown -h now, to halt the system
[16:35] <HardDisk> there are hp notebooks that have no problems whatsoever, and there are those that do, the fixes are available, you just have to fix them manually.
[16:35] <GMoo> lol ok i reinstalled ubuntu
[16:35] <HardDisk> mc3, we are not offtopic.
[16:35] <enigma_> i need help installing flashplayer any one now a channel where i can get some help?
[16:35] <GMoo> now --- i tell you what i need to do -- -install a .rpm program....
[16:35] <karalaine> iNeo, know that, I just want my buttons back :D
[16:35] <HardDisk> GMoo, use alien to convert rpm to deb
[16:35] <white_eagle> enigma_: don' bother with adobe flash, try gnash
[16:35] <Pros599> Karaline:  reinstall ^_^
[16:35] <white_eagle> !gnash | enigma_
[16:35] <ubotu> enigma_: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[16:36] <HardDisk> gnash does not work with new versions of flash
[16:36] <Pros599> Flash has also crashed alsa...
[16:36] <wols_> HardDisk: never ever tell people that. good way to wreck package management
[16:36] <Pros599> anyone else notice that?
[16:36] <GMoo> okay harddisk
[16:36] <enigma_> thx
[16:36] <GMoo> lol wols
[16:36] <GMoo> well wtf do i do then
[16:36] <karalaine> the whole point to use ubuntu or linux is that u dont have to reinstall
[16:36] <wols_> GMoo: convert to tar.gz if you REALLY MUST isntall rpms.
[16:36] <white_eagle> GNASH
[16:36] <Pros599> Karaline:  True, but it is easy to do so if there are issues.
[16:36] <GMoo> what do i convert with
[16:36] <HardDisk> wols_, not true. and if you want to say that, tell it to some of the ops then.
[16:36] <wols_> GMoo: what package is it that you so desperately need?
[16:36] <GMoo> syngery
[16:36] <GMoo> sec
[16:36] <HardDisk> openoffice's docx rpm release converts to deb just fine for example.
[16:36] <wols_> !info synergy
[16:37] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 613 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[16:37] <tyrone> hi i am  trying to dual boot. I already partitioned my disk but when I put the windows xp disk on it freezes during the hardware detection
[16:37] <karalaine> Pros599, and that wond help anything
[16:37] <GMoo> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[16:37] <thor> GMoo you can convert rpms to deb files with alien
[16:37] <karalaine> in my case
[16:37] <wols_> tyrone: not our problem
[16:37] <HardDisk> all alien does is convert rpm to deb file structure
[16:37] <GMoo> oh wow
[16:37] <nucularbum> hello
[16:37] <GMoo> where do i get that
[16:37] <Airion> hi
[16:37] <HardDisk> that is regardless of depencies.
[16:37] <tyrone> wols_, where can i ask about that?
[16:37] <nucularbum> i have a wubi question
[16:37] <vishal> tyrone: where is the partition, at the front of the back of the disk?
[16:38] <GMoo> okay HardDisk, wols_, what do i do to install Synergy
[16:38] <tyrone> vishal, at the back
[16:38] <vishal> tyrone: Try moving it to the front of the disk
[16:38] <vishal> brb
[16:38] <wols_> GMoo: apt-get isntall synergy
[16:38] <wols_> tyrone: ##windows
[16:38] <GMoo> what
[16:38] <HardDisk> install*
[16:38] <GMoo> i'ms orry this is my first time on linux, i'm a complete n00b
[16:39] <HardDisk> GMoo, in terminal, type sudo apt-get install synergy
[16:39] <GMoo> how do i get to terminal
[16:39] <GMoo> so what this thing is alreayd set up for syergy?
[16:39] <HardDisk> accessories/terminal
[16:39] <nucularbum> i installed ubuntu with wubi. does anyone know if it's possıble to keep my ubuntu settings and stuff after a windows reinstall?
[16:39] <Airion> i have a little problem: my windowsprogramms (with wine) can't connect to the internet, has somebody an idea how to change this?
[16:39] <HardDisk> what you need GMoo is to also check out ubuntuguide.org ubuntugeek.com ubuntuhq.com
[16:39] <GMoo> thank you HardDisk
[16:40] <HardDisk> get familiar with linux before you get into synergy, that's my advice :)
[16:40] <wols_> nucularbum: dunno how wubi boots, but the file it resides in should stay as long as you doN't format the hdd
[16:40] <GMoo> lol. i've used synergy on my win2k pro machine
[16:40] <GMoo> and now i'm typing over my main keyboard using my laptop
[16:40] <GMoo> i want to use my main keyboard
[16:40] <HardDisk> ah ok.
[16:40] <nickrud> !clone | nucularbum (you can save your settings & packages for a reinstall, and save your /home/<you> as well)
[16:41] <nickrud> oh, ubotu, where are you
[16:41] <GMoo> when i type apt-get install synergy
[16:41] <nucularbum> nickrud: then my next question would be: "how?" :)
[16:41] <GMoo> E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 premission denied)
[16:41] <GMoo> E: unable to lock the administrator directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:41] <bazhang> !aptfix
[16:42] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:42] <nickrud> nucularbum, heh, that was supposed to come up with a factoid, lets try again
[16:42] <HardDisk> GMoo, don't run synaptic
[16:42] <nickrud> !clone | nucularbum
[16:42] <ubotu> nucularbum: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:42] <HardDisk> GMoo, you cannot run synaptic/apt-get simulataneously
[16:42] <GMoo> what is synaptic
[16:42] <HardDisk> and you have to run sudo apt-get installs synergy
[16:42] <GMoo> and how do i turn it off
[16:42] <HardDisk> not just apt-get
[16:42] <nucularbum> ah, thanks, much appreciated
[16:42] <GMoo> lol
[16:42] <GMoo> WHAT
[16:42] <HardDisk> my bad you typed apt-get without sudo
[16:43] <GMoo> i typed what you asked me to type i believe
[16:43] <HardDisk> sudo gives you temporary root access
[16:43] <HardDisk> I said sudo
[16:43] <GMoo> okay one sec
[16:43] <GMoo> soz
[16:43] <HardDisk> HardDisk> GMoo, in terminal, type sudo apt-get install synergy
[16:43] <GMoo> i get the same error
[16:43] <GMoo> wait
[16:43] <GMoo> it says
[16:43] <HardDisk> are you running package manager?
[16:43] <GMoo> i finished installing ubuntu 10 minutes ago
[16:44] <HardDisk> or is your computer updating?
[16:44] <GMoo> yes
[16:44] <GMoo> i'm downloading updates
[16:44] <HardDisk> then you can't run it now
[16:44] <saxartist> GMoo: If you're running the updater, you can't run apt-get or aptitude
[16:44] <GMoo> ah i'll run the updates later
[16:44] <HardDisk> wait till the updates are done
[16:44] <GMoo> argh
[16:44] <GMoo> ok
[16:44]  * GMoo waits
[16:44] <GMoo> lol i got an hour of waiting
[16:44] <GMoo> time to put on sci fi channel
[16:44] <MrPiracy> how do i change text colors for main menu in the panel? i'm using gutsy gibbon
[16:44] <nickrud> GMoo, you can interrupt the update process if you like, no harm done
[16:45] <xcst> eii there
[16:45] <xcst> i really need help
[16:45] <xcst> im a noob
[16:45] <GMoo> yeah.... i'll wait....
[16:45] <GMoo> lol no xcst i'm the noob
[16:45] <GMoo> there ain't enough room for both of us n00bs
[16:45] <GMoo> !kick xcst
[16:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick xcst - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:45] <GMoo> rwar!
[16:45] <bazhang> GMoo: haha
[16:45] <nickrud> xcst, welcome, what's up?
[16:45] <saxartist> Heh.
[16:45] <GMoo> yeah... how can we help.... ?
[16:46] <saxartist> Happy to help xcst just don't ask to ask
[16:46] <saxartist> Just ask!
[16:46] <xcst> how can i be able to connect to a wireless connection/
[16:46] <saxartist> what version of ubuntu?
[16:46] <iNeo> xcst: Read the howto's
[16:46] <xcst> gutsy
[16:47] <bazhang> xcst: want a link to read?
[16:47] <saxartist> see the little internet applet in your panel?
[16:47] <tike> man
[16:47] <GMoo> okay i need ubuntu n00b guy: linkage please
[16:47] <tike> people
[16:47] <sunnug> xcst: system->administration->network tools
[16:47] <wols_> xcst: last time: is the driver loaded?
[16:47] <GMoo> *n00b guide
[16:47] <tike> go have christmas somewhere
[16:47] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy GMoo
[16:47] <iNeo> tike: have fun
[16:47] <xcst> how do i know if the driver is loaded?
[16:48] <wols_> xcst: what card/chip?
[16:48] <tike> DEY TUK ER JERBS!
[16:48] <iNeo> xcst: lspci and then lsmod
[16:48] <GMoo> ty bazhang
[16:48] <bazhang> tike: please stop
[16:48] <HardDisk> I have him the links
[16:48] <GMoo> what does gutsy mean
[16:48] <HardDisk> what you need GMoo is to also check out ubuntuguide.org ubuntugeek.com ubuntuhq.com
[16:48] <bazhang> no problem GMoo :}
[16:48] <tike> i dont see a stop sign
[16:48] <wols_> GMoo: a version. like "XP" or "Vista"
[16:49] <GMoo> ty harddisk i lost that in the buffer somewhere
[16:49] <wols_> tike: soon you will see a +b tike, so please stop
[16:49] <HardDisk> a version like what?
[16:49] <wols_> name
[16:49] <HardDisk> dude you high?
[16:49] <HardDisk> nvm.
[16:49] <HardDisk> I take it back.
[16:49] <bazhang> he left
[16:49] <GMoo> huh
[16:49] <HardDisk> no he hasn't
[16:49] <GMoo> i'm not high :-/
[16:50] <HardDisk> not you.
[16:50] <GMoo> okay... i'll be back when i download these updates now once
[16:50] <GMoo> ttiab
[16:50] <xcst> wols_, is this it? Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[16:50] <iNeo> GMoo: work a lot with *nix and y'll get high
[16:50] <wols_> xcst: yes
[16:50] <wols_> !bcm43xx | xcst
[16:50] <ubotu> xcst: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[16:50] <saxartist> !flux
[16:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <saxartist> !info flux
[16:50] <ubotu> Package flux does not exist in gutsy
[16:51] <saxartist> !info fluxbox
[16:51] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (gutsy), package size 1033 kB, installed size 3848 kB
[16:51] <wols_> !msgthebot > saxartist
[16:51] <saxartist> Aye, sorry wols_
[16:52] <zvezdichko> I installed Opera, however, I can't get the flashplayer to work. Adobe flashplayer has been installed in /myhome/.mozilla/plugins and Opera is being pointed to read this directory, but nothing helps :(
[16:52] <Andeh> mc2: I just reinstalled Ubuntu on my laptop.
[16:52] <Andeh> Same, exactly the same problem.
[16:52] <Andeh> No graphical bootup. i see some HDD activity but nothing else
[16:52] <WorkingOnWis1> how can I find out why my system is using so much swao. 412Mb of 942MB user memory and 484MB of 1.7GB swao.
[16:52] <white_eagle> Andeh: that's the same with me
[16:53] <white_eagle> Andeh: it will boot afterwards
[16:53] <BuFF> zvezdicko use synaptic
[16:53] <WorkingOnWis1> swap that is
[16:53] <Andeh> white_eagle: You sure? How long?
[16:53] <white_eagle> Andeh: when I installed ubuntu first, it booted 5 minutes
[16:53] <Andeh> white_eagle: Oh my god. THANK YOU!
[16:53] <Andeh> white_eagle: You just saved me another 3 days of fiddling!
[16:53] <white_eagle> Andeh: now for some reason, it boots for 3-4 minutes
[16:54] <white_eagle> Andeh: if that doesn't work, dunno similar problem
[16:54] <Andeh> white_eagle: I thought there was something wrong, and after 2 minutes I shut it down. So THAT messed everything up!!!
[16:54] <Andeh> white_eagle: I thought it was hardware errors
[16:54] <Andeh> hmm
[16:54] <GMoo> inpatient bastard
[16:54] <Andeh> Wow, its working
[16:54] <Andeh> YAAAAAAYY
[16:54] <Andeh> GMoo: The first time I installed ubuntu ever, first boot took 40 seconds
[16:54] <Andeh> not 4 minutes
[16:54] <HardDisk> GMoo, it happens :)
[16:54] <Andeh> and I actually HAd a graphical boot
[16:55] <GMoo> lol
[16:55] <GMoo> i'm being sarcastic
[16:55] <white_eagle> Andeh ???
[16:55] <white_eagle> graphical boot
[16:55] <HardDisk> no andehn
[16:55] <GMoo> i'm running on a 450 MHZ P3 1/2 gig ram
[16:55] <white_eagle> you lucky bastard
[16:55] <GMoo> so i dunno what to expect
[16:55] <Andeh> White_eagle: lol
[16:55] <GMoo> k i'll be bac k lata
[16:55] <white_eagle> I can't get the graphical boot to work
[16:55] <Andeh> white_eagle: Well seeing no screen, some hdd activity, i thought something was screwed
[16:55] <Andeh> but YAY
[16:55] <white_eagle> :((
[16:55] <Andeh> ;D
[16:55] <xcst> wols_, i think my chip are enabled?
[16:55] <iNeo> Andeh: powerdown your system and reboot
[16:55] <white_eagle> you are so impatient
[16:55] <BuFF> zvezdichko: use synaptic package manager and type in the search box what u want to install, that should work
[16:55] <Andeh> iNeo: um, okay
[16:56] <white_eagle> Andeh: impatient bastard with a boot screen :)))
[16:56] <wols_> xcst: ubotu gave you a link what to do. read it
[16:56] <white_eagle> no offense
[16:56] <iNeo> Andeh: I had the same problem when I booted in to Vista and back in Ubuntu
[16:56] <Andeh> Lol
[16:56] <Airion> could somebody help me to get with warcraft3 and wine in the internet?
[16:56] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Merry Christmas Folks
[16:56] <Andeh> iNeo: And grub is taking ages to load even on new hardware
[16:56] <Andeh> weird
[16:56] <burner> Airion: whats the problem?
[16:56] <Andeh> I mean like 9 seconds compared to 0.3 seconds
[16:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> I was wondering if theres a ubuntu package for gbDVDenc
[16:57] <iNeo> Andeh: weird
[16:57] <white_eagle> when I first saw the live ubuntu cd, I immediately chose to format and install on the whole HD
[16:57] <Airion> burner: i cant connect to the internet with wine, no idea why...
[16:57] <burner> Andeh: adjust your bios options for quick boot and don't "autodetect" hard drives... set them manually
[16:57] <burner> Airion: well, works here :)
[16:57] <Andeh> burner: Hmm.
[16:57] <nickrud> xcst, how far along on the page are you?
[16:57] <Andeh> burner: i did do quick boot
[16:57] <Andeh> burner: Do laptops even HAVE autodetect hard drive option?
[16:57] <xcst> cant understand it
[16:58] <white_eagle> I want the BOOT SCREEN :(((
[16:58] <burner> Andeh: maybe
[16:58] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  hi, I don't have the permissions to edit that configuration file
[16:58] <Andeh> white_eagle: Weird, second boot and still no graphical splash. Why?
[16:58] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, whcih one?
[16:58] <white_eagle> Andeh: WAIT
[16:58] <Andeh> Very disturbing...
[16:58] <xcst> what i just want is when i go to a wifi hotspot, i can be able to connect to their network
[16:58] <iNeo> Andeh: what hardware are you using?
[16:58] <Airion> burner: any ideas?
[16:58] <Andeh> iNeo: Some crappy laptop
[16:58] <nickrud> xcst, did you do step one, the restricted driver manager?
[16:58] <saxartist> YourOnlyRealFrie: when you want to edit something and you need permission, run "gksudo gedit "filename""
[16:58] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  etc/x11/xorg.conf
[16:58] <saxartist> if you want a sudo file manager, it's "gksudo nautilus"
[16:59] <Andeh> iNeo: just installed ubuntu off an old CD. Im assuming it will get fixed once I update over internet
[16:59] <burner> Airion: none... it plays fine without battle net right?
[16:59] <iNeo> Andeh: Never heard of that make :)
[16:59] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie,   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the terminal
[16:59] <Andeh> 7.10
[16:59] <Andeh> iNeo: it's called Sony Vaio, lol]
[16:59] <saxartist> nickrud's option works too, if you know nano.
[16:59] <WorkingOnWis1> how can I find out why my system is using so much swap. 412Mb of 942MB user memory and 484MB of 1.7GB swao.
[16:59] <white_eagle> Andeh: did it bootd?
[16:59] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: sorry, I only have a basic understanding of linux commands
[16:59] <UBUNTUISLOVED> I was wondering if theres a ubuntu package for gbDVDenc
[16:59] <iNeo> Andeh: A lot of unsupported hardware ?
[16:59] <xcst> nickrud, yes
[16:59] <saxartist> which quite frankly you should learn
[16:59] <Andeh> white_eagle: Not yet. Laptop is very slow.
[16:59] <Airion> burner: yeah, and it worked as well with battle net in 7.4
[16:59] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  a newbish one
[16:59] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, no problem, it's a one step at a time learning process :)
[16:59] <Andeh> It will, theres still hdd activity
[17:00] <linxeh> WorkingOnWis1: run top / ps and see what is using up the most memory (the total process size, not resident size)
[17:00] <Andeh> white_eagle: When does this black screen for a really long time problem go away?
[17:00] <burner> Airion: update wine to the latest and greatest from winehq.com ?
[17:00] <nickrud> xcst, did the status change to 'in use' ?
[17:00] <white_eagle> Andeh: never
[17:00] <white_eagle> Andeh: I left it
[17:00] <xcst> nickrud, it is in use
[17:00] <white_eagle> :D
[17:00] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, ah you had the m6 ly , I remember now
[17:00] <Andeh> white_eagle: Left?
[17:00] <white_eagle> for 5 minutes Andeh
[17:00] <Andeh> Lol
[17:00] <white_eagle> kidding
[17:00] <Andeh> Ah
[17:00] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  yeah, so I enter gksudo gedit "filename" in the terminal?
[17:00] <Andeh> i got login!
[17:01] <white_eagle> SEEE
[17:01] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, exactly
[17:01] <Andeh> But how do I get it to use a spash instead of creepy empty screen?
[17:01] <white_eagle> Andeh: LEAVE it
[17:01] <white_eagle> you will screw it up
[17:01] <Andeh> ?
[17:01] <white_eagle> just like I did
[17:01] <Andeh> Meh
[17:01] <burner> Andeh: intel graphics?  you might not be able to have a usplash
[17:01] <Airion> burner: i think its a problem in the configuration, because  programm under wine hast internet
[17:01] <nickrud> xcst, ok, do you see a little computer icon in the lower right task bar
[17:01] <Andeh> burner: No, i had it before I installed 7.10 fresh.
[17:01] <white_eagle> Andeh: what kinda lapotp u got?
[17:01] <Andeh> Sony Vaio
[17:01]  * burner is not giving such a warning as white_eagle and encourages experimentation
[17:01] <Andeh> the crappy 3 year old ones
[17:02] <Andeh> dunno model
[17:02] <xcst> yes
[17:02] <white_eagle> I've got a Toshiba Satellite L20 2 yrs ago
[17:02] <Andeh> Lol
[17:02] <Andeh> hmm
[17:02] <nickrud> xcst, left click it, it should show any wireless networks in the area
[17:02] <white_eagle> L20-L25
[17:02] <Andeh> I am going to update the software on the laptop
[17:02] <burner> Andeh: it says the model on the laptop itself
[17:02] <saxartist> Andeh:  did you say you have no graphical splash?  as in the one after you log in?
[17:02] <Andeh> burner: I am lazy
[17:02] <white_eagle> saxartist: no when you boot your pc
[17:02] <white_eagle> it shows a splash ubuntu
[17:03] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  I'm getting an entirely blank file.  I just copy the entire original file with the edits in it, paste it into the termminal, then save?
[17:03] <white_eagle> or not
[17:03] <iNeo> Andeh: did you ever update the Bios of that Sony?
[17:03] <Andeh> saxartist: I have no nice orange loading bar and ubuntu logo while ubuntu is booting.
[17:03] <burner> Andeh: there is no splash after login... you should see teh splash after grub but before the login screen
[17:03] <Andeh> saxartist: I used to always have it on the same laptop.
[17:03] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, you must have mistyped something, there should be a config file in there
[17:03] <iNeo> Andeh: Maybe that will also fix some problemes
[17:03] <xcst> nickrud, im sorry i didnt see any computer icon at the lower ryt
[17:03] <saxartist> oh yes
[17:03] <Andeh> iNeo: Never. How do I update it?
[17:03] <saxartist> there's some file that determines that I don't remember what it is
[17:03] <white_eagle> I saw somewhere that you have to change to GRAB from GRUB
[17:03] <Andeh> I not sure sony even makes bios updates that run on linux
[17:03] <white_eagle> to make it work
[17:03] <iNeo> Andeh: go to the sony site a look for bios updates
[17:04] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: ok, I get a blank file in gedit.  Was I supposed to put the directory in with the filename?
[17:04] <xcst> !wireshark
[17:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:04] <WorkingOnWis1> linxeh: my problem isnt that there is too much ram being used, but too not enough. I am used to only seeing 5-7% available ram and a nice snappy system. Lately it is just like windows. Seems like it is swapping instead of using my ram like linux normally does. Like the memory manager has been window-fies...ewwww!
[17:04] <piyush> how to give any user administrative privilages??
[17:04] <xcst> !wifi-radar
[17:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi-radar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:04] <saxartist> xcst: use "!info foo"
[17:04] <nickrud> xcst, a sec
[17:04] <saxartist> !msgthebot > xcst
[17:05] <Andeh> It's funny how suddenly every single computer manufacturer "reccomends windows vista"
[17:05] <nickrud> xcst, press alt-f2 , and type nm-applet , you should see one pop up
[17:05] <burner> piyush: settings -> admin -> users and groups... check the box that says allow administrative tasks
[17:05] <burner> Andeh: funny that they recommend it on systems with 512 mb or 1gb ram...  or just sad
[17:05] <xcst> there
[17:05] <HardDisk> Andeh, BUT windows is offering a free downgrade to xp
[17:05] <white_eagle> HardDisk really?
[17:05] <white_eagle> it is an upgrade
[17:06] <HardDisk> yes on some select offers.
[17:06] <burner> HardDisk: they are?  how do you get it?  I think you're full of crap
[17:06] <white_eagle> not a downgrade
[17:06] <white_eagle> :D
[17:06] <xcst> nickrud, there is one
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: HAdn't heard that one
[17:06] <HardDisk> oh?
[17:06] <HardDisk> than let me prove you wrong..again
[17:06] <white_eagle> vista suks
[17:06] <nickrud> xcst, now left click it, it should show some wireless networks if you have one close by
[17:06] <HardDisk> link will be up
[17:06] <piyush> buener: its not showing the group "admin" :)
[17:06] <Andeh> HardDisk: Lol
[17:06] <burner> Dell sells ubuntu and windows XP still :)
[17:06] <piyush> burner: its not showing the group "admin" :)
[17:06] <white_eagle> !offtopic | white_eagle
[17:06] <burner> piyush: it's the "sudo" group... not admin
[17:06] <xcst> ohhh so thats it?
[17:06] <Andeh> Hey, i can't find any bios upgrade website for my "sony vaio PCG 9S2M"
[17:06] <piyush> ok let me try
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: HardDiskYou need to take the edge ofgf your attitude.. It was a simple question, no need to be rude.
[17:06] <burner> piyush: or there's a checkbox on the priveleges tab about administrative tasks
[17:07] <piyush> burner:ok let me try
[17:07] <nickrud> xcst, that's it, click the one you want to connect to
[17:07] <HardDisk> http://www.news.com/The-XP-alternative-for-Vista-PCs/2100-1016_3-6209481.html
[17:07] <xcst> no need to refresh or something?
[17:07] <HardDisk> jack RUDE? he said I was full of crap, so back off
[17:07] <tritium> burner: burner sudo priveleges are given to the "admin" group
[17:07] <HardDisk> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/126131/microsoft-offers-downgrades-from-vista-to-xp.html
[17:07] <Andeh> brb
[17:07] <tritium> HardDisk: calm down, please
[17:07] <nickrud> xcst, no, it's dynamic, reads on a regular basis
[17:07] <white_eagle> It's funny that when I say that I run Linux, they make me an evil hacker
[17:07] <HardDisk> I'm sick and tired of the bullying that's going on here.
[17:07] <xcst> ok thanks
[17:07] <white_eagle> I hate that
[17:07] <piyush> burner:sudo group does not exist
[17:07] <xcst> is there a possibility that i can connect to other people who have routers?
[17:08] <piyush> burner:    :)
[17:08] <tritium> piyush: it should not exist
[17:08] <saxartist> xcst you an connect to any wireless network
[17:08] <nickrud> xcst, if you have the password, or it doesn't have any security
[17:08] <white_eagle> xcst: sorry for bumping in, but what's the prob. can't connect to wifi?
[17:08] <burner> HardDisk: i won't tell you to calm down ;)  I'm the provoker.  these other folks need to chill
[17:08] <nickrud> piyush, it's the admin group
[17:08] <piyush> tritium:  welll but i m not able to start any admin application
[17:08] <HardDisk> burner, exactly :)
[17:08] <xcst> white_eagle, not really, i just dont know how
[17:08] <HardDisk> they get involved when they shouldn't be
[17:08] <xcst> oh ok thanks
[17:08] <white_eagle> KDE roks
[17:09] <saxartist> xcst: if it's got a password, you obviously need the password
[17:09] <HardDisk> anyway.
[17:09] <white_eagle> as if...
[17:09] <HardDisk> now that you know about the xp downgrade.
[17:09] <burner> HardDisk: see that the offer is only on the higher versions and select manufacturers?    I'd buy a dell with ubuntu ;)
[17:09] <piyush> nickrud:sudo group does not exist  (its error my sys giving)
[17:09] <HardDisk> you may continue.
[17:09] <HardDisk> burner, sure, but that doesn't mean that it isn't true.
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: I was NOT bullying you and your attack was rude and NOT in the spirit of Ubuntu.  I suggest you think before you type
[17:09] <Ande1> success!
[17:09] <burner> indeed
[17:09] <nickrud> piyush, no, it's called the admin group
[17:09] <Ande1> Internet on my laptop
[17:09] <Fezzler> How do I see what applets and processes I have running?
[17:09] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow speaks the truth
[17:09] <burner> Fezzler: alt+f2, gnome-system-monitor
[17:10] <HardDisk> Jack, either appreciate the help I'm giving, or ask me to leave.
[17:10] <white_eagle> vista to xp = UPGRADE
[17:10] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, a bully ? rflol
[17:10] <piyush> nickrud:then hoe to give any user admin privileges
[17:10] <white_eagle> XP to vizta = DOWNGRADE
[17:10] <burner> xp -> ubuntu == FREE UPGRADE
[17:10] <white_eagle> yeah
[17:10] <HardDisk> but don't give me daddy talk
[17:10] <HardDisk> that's just patronizing me.
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: We dont need to ask.. we can just boot
[17:10]  * burner likes HardDisk :)
[17:10] <nickrud> piyush, sudo adduser <name> admin , then that user has to log out completely, and log back in
[17:10] <WorkingOnWis1> how can I find out why my system is using so much swap and so little ram? 412Mb of 942MB user memory and 484MB of 1.7GB swap.
[17:10] <hastesaver> hello, how can I erase a re-writable CD from the commandline?
[17:10] <iNeo> Ande1: esupport.sony.com
[17:10] <white_eagle> oh, man vista will be the worst MS' OS
[17:10] <HardDisk> oyu can just boot, but asking is more manly.
[17:10]  * nickrud decides to be extra nice to Jack_Sparrow now
[17:10] <HardDisk> you*
[17:11] <LynX> hello group
[17:11] <piyush> nickrud: ya i tried it ...... it gives me error .... "admin" group does not exist
[17:11] <linxeh> WorkingOnWis1: if your machine is swapping then its because you have processes that arent currently active (usually). Linux will swap things out to disk to free up memory to use as a file cache if that's what your system needs (the output of free will probably show if this is the case)
[17:11] <white_eagle> !hi | Lynx
[17:11] <ubotu> Lynx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:11]  * burner would encourage mr. sparrow to welcome people and not threaten
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: All of this is offtopic.. try that channel for chatter
[17:11] <HardDisk> I suggest you do the same.
[17:11] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud:  I got it.  I accidentally pasted the driver into the terminal and the terminal (D:) started scrolling down.  It stopped, then I entered the filename with the directory and edited it
[17:11] <LynX> hi.. I want to buy a wireless NIC. which is compatible for linux
[17:12] <burner> LynX: check out the ubuntu wiki for wireless cards
[17:12] <nickrud> piyush, wierd, thats a basic group, try    cat /etc/group | grep admin , do you see it?
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> LynX: would you like the link for supported hardware
[17:12] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: thanks, is my fsckup-ery going to affect anything?
[17:12] <Falstius> is there a multiplayer (and play against the computer) mahjong program in ubuntu?  The ones I've looked at are the solitaire version.
[17:12] <nickrud> YourOnlyRealFrie, no, none of the stuff I linked you to is a command :)
[17:12] <LynX> no I mean for any diisto based on linux
[17:12] <piyush> nickrud: or better should i paste it to pastebin??? (groups file)??
[17:12] <Ande1> Is it possible to see what my graphics card model is from inside ubuntu?
[17:12] <YourOnlyRealFrie> nickrud: ok thanks
[17:12] <nickrud> piyush, sure
[17:13] <piyush> nickrud: ok
[17:13] <burner> Ande1: open a terminal and type "lspci"
[17:13] <kotau> MERRY UBUNTUMAS
[17:13] <nickrud> piyush, and remember it's /etc/group   not groups
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Ande1: lspci  in a term
[17:13] <Fezzler> If I want to learn what a process that us running/sleeping does, should I just Google it?
[17:13] <burner> Ande1: or get the application "sysinfo"
[17:13] <hk2999> Fezzler: good idea
[17:13] <piyush> nickrud:yah
[17:14] <Fezzler> In particular bonobo-activation-server, dccm, vino-sessions
[17:14] <kotau> hey does anyone have any experience converting .fon fonts into something linux readable like .ttf?
[17:14] <Ande1> Lol, sonys website doesnt have my model
[17:14] <Ande1> xD
[17:14] <Torrential> How can I disable compiz-fusion from starting when I boot my Ubuntu Gutsy installation? I want metacity to be the default.
[17:14] <cool-tv> bjr une personne paarle en francais ici
[17:14] <WorkingOnWis1> linxeh: ok, but then wouldnt it use the ram freed up by swapping out to disk for something instead of freeing ram for the sake of it being free? I have not seen linux leave that much ram free before. ram is always at 93-95% used and the system is very peppy, no matter how loaded. It is performing like Windows lately, and the memory management looks a lot like Windows memry management too.
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > cool-tv
[17:15] <nickrud> Torrential,  alt-f2  metacity --replace should do it
[17:15] <cool-tv> slt jac
[17:15] <cool-tv> dit moi tu parle francais
[17:15] <burner> Torrential: settings -> prefs -> appearance -> desktop effects and turn them off
[17:15] <xcst> nickrud, what if i want to manually look for a wifi connection?
[17:15] <Fezzler> I've been struggling to get my Win CE 2.11 device to sync with Ubuntu.  I've tried ftp, Multisyc, Raki, etc.
[17:15] <Torrential> nickrud: Yes, but I dont' want to have to do that everytime I start/login
[17:15] <burner> nickrud: that doesn't change it by default
[17:15] <piyush> nickrud: hav a look  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2998/
[17:15] <iNeo> Ande1: look at viao.sony.nl
[17:15] <Torrential> burner: Alright. I'll do that.
[17:15] <kotau> !french
[17:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:15] <Ande1> is it possible to see what graphics card I have from inside ubuntu?
[17:15] <Torrential> thanks.
[17:15] <cool-tv> jack tu parle francais
[17:15] <nickrud> xcasex, then you have to learn the iwlist and friends commands, which I don't know
[17:15] <GHOST> Torrential you have to change yuor window manager
[17:15] <nickrud> burner, do you know what will?
[17:16] <Fezzler> I'm missing something.  lsusb and dmesg show the usb connection as ttyUSB0
[17:16] <kotau> ande1 yes, use lspci
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Ande1: read back... lspci  from a terminal
[17:16] <Torrential> cool-tv: C'est le channel anglais, alle le channel francais sil vous plait.
[17:16] <burner> nickrud: yeah, i said it already ;)
[17:16] <GHOST> salut les francais ;)
[17:16] <burner> nickrud: settings -> prefs -> appearance -> desktop effects and turn them off
[17:16] <WorkingOnWis1> how long can a process reserve ram without actually using it?
[17:16] <cool-tv> et en francais c'est quel chanel
[17:16] <tritium> !fr
[17:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:16] <burner> #ubuntu-fr
[17:16] <nickrud> burner, sorry, it scrolls quickly here . And thanks :)
[17:16] <GHOST> cest cool
[17:16] <burner> np
[17:16] <kotau> WorkingOnWis1 until 1. all of it is allocated and 2. until another program needs it
[17:17] <nickrud> piyush, did you do a server install?
[17:17] <Torrential> cool-tv: Oui, allez dans le channel #ubuntu-fr et tu peux parler francais.
[17:17] <piyush> nickrud:just dict
[17:17] <piyush> nickrud:just dictd
[17:17] <nickrud> piyush, um I mean what cd did you use to install ubuntu?
[17:17] <Ande1> Okay, It seems I have ATI Radeon Mobility 9200. Where I get drivers for Ubuntu?
[17:17] <piyush> nickrud:and gave it address of my own sys...
[17:17] <phenom> Try this again gentlepeople.
[17:17] <phenom> Any one with experience with rkhunter have a sec to go over a log?
[17:18] <briancr> Merry Christmas
[17:18] <WorkingOnWis1> kotau: so it is possible for an app to reserve ram but not use it, and thus cause the kernel to swap to disk instead of use the free ram that is actually reserved by the app?
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> phenom: Looks like another slow day in here....   but keep trying
[17:18] <Ande1> Merry Christmas!
[17:18] <piyush> nickrud:no i have used ubuntu cd (live+ installation) not done server installation..
[17:18] <HardDisk> !ati > Ande1
[17:19] <briancr> I have an issue...  I have a full signal for my daughter's wireless on her computer but it tries to connect and fails everytime
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Ande1: I can send the link for ati.. but if you are using Gutsy you should be able to use restricted drivers option
[17:19] <phenom> Jack_Sparrow, yea, I'll give it a few more tries, hard to believe not many people have experience with rkhunter and the like :/
[17:19] <briancr> I am plugged in to the connection on her computer right now..  I can't understand this problem, the wireless stick works and sees the network
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> phenom: Do you think someone has rootkit'd you?
[17:19] <WorkingOnWis1> !rkhunter
[17:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rkhunter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:19] <nickrud> piyush, then I have no clue why you don't have an admin group, that is verrrrry weird.  sudo as written defined in ubuntu requires that group to work
[17:19] <cdavis_> my vim doesn't show colors when I open something like a php file?
[17:19] <Ande1> Jack_Sparrow yeah except it tells me I dont need any drivers, and its not able to fill up my whole screen.ž
[17:20] <piyush> nickrud:it was working fine few days before
[17:20] <phenom> No, but i have question regarding mismatched md5 hashs and some suspicious files rkhunter found.
[17:20] <piyush> nickrud:i hope i have those commands in history let me check
[17:20] <nickrud> piyush, does sudo work at all?
[17:20] <PointyThingsHurt> I wanna see if anyone knows whats going on here.  I'm using an ATI card in 7.10.  Got the restricted drivers installed and in use.  I go to "turn on" Compiz in the Appearance Preferences, and get an error that says "The Composite extension is not available"
[17:20] <piyush> nickrud: yah it used to work
[17:21] <WorkingOnWis1> is it possible for an app to reserve ram but not use it, and thus cause the kernel to swap to disk instead of use the free ram that is actually reserved by the app?
[17:21] <piyush> nickrud: noe it say i m not sudoer
[17:21] <linxeh> WorkingOnWis1: without seeing the use on your system it does sound odd - what is the uptime on the system? what is running at the moment etc? do you have any badly behaved kernel modules loaded, does a reboot fix it? - there are so many variables
[17:21] <nickrud> PointyThingsHurt, the ati driver in ubuntu doesn't have aiglx, which is the standard way to get compiz.  You need to install xserver-xgl , log out and back in to get compiz to work
[17:21] <alexbobp> cdavis_: there's a command to enable syntax highlighting
[17:21] <alexbobp> hold on while I find it
[17:22] <piyush> first problem started when i tried this command(luckily still in history)
[17:22] <piyush> chown -Rv 1000 My\ Music/ (where 1000 is my own gid )
[17:22] <piyush> then
[17:22] <piyush> chmod -Rc --reference=/home/piyush/Music/ My\ Music/
[17:22] <piyush> now
[17:22] <piyush> at this whenever i issued users-admin as root(for gnome)
[17:22] <piyush> it only gave *blank* windows with no group ,no users . no service names.....
[17:22] <piyush> and now situation has worsened... it says i m not suoder... :(
[17:22] <nickrud> piyush, did you set up a root user ?
[17:22] <tritium> !paste | piyush
[17:22] <ubotu> piyush: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:22] <Vad1> Is there any program I can use to view the manual pages not from the terminal?
[17:22] <cdavis_> alexbobp, where is that?  Seems like I had to change a defaults setting somewhere?
[17:22] <piyush> k sorry
[17:22] <xcst> im using gutsy, and my window borders are sometimes disappearing
[17:23] <cdavis_> alexbobp, found it, it was in /etc/vim/vimrc thanks
[17:23] <Vad1> xcst: Are you using emerald?
[17:23] <BuFF> how to move a cube using compiz ?
[17:23] <AnAnt> Hello, I have a problem using update-alternatives, I issued this command: sudo update-alternatives --install  /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so  usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-ubuntume.so 10, and I got this error:
[17:23] <Odd-rationale> xcst: are you using compiz?
[17:23] <AnAnt> mv: cannot stat `usplash-artwork.so': No such file or directory
[17:23] <AnAnt> update-alternatives: unable to rename usplash-artwork.so to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so: Invalid cross-device link
[17:23] <alexbobp> cdavis_: okay.  If it's not enabled in the settings, you can enable it with :syn
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xcst: HAve you tried turning off compiz-effects
[17:23] <Odd-rationale> BuFF: ctrl + alt + left/ight arrow
[17:23] <BuFF> tjanks
[17:23] <jgoo> eh, I installed debian-helper-scripts - but, what is the service command to get the status of a service? ??
[17:23] <piyush> nickrud: actually once i had misplaced the root passwd .. then i recovered it vth gentoo live cd
[17:23] <xcst> Odd-rationale, yeah im using compiz, the one included in gutsy
[17:24] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Do you have ccsm instlled?
[17:24] <Fezzler> How do I see what processes run at startup?  Alt-f2 ??
[17:24] <danielvieirads> ubuntum piada
[17:24] <Vad1> xcst: alt+f2, and "compiz --replace" will restore them.
[17:24] <xcst> Odd-rationale, yes
[17:24] <Fezzler> BTW Alt-f2=cool!
[17:24] <nickrud> piyush, do this:  reboot into recovery mode , then run these three commands:   addgroup --gid 110 admin      adduser <you> admin     telinit 2   , then test sudo
[17:24] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Open it. Then check to see if "window Decoration" is enabled.
[17:24] <xcst> Vad1, so i will have to do that everytime? coz it often hapenns
[17:24] <nickrud> piyush, or the first two as root
[17:25] <Vad1> xcst: Are you using emerald as the window manager?
[17:25] <piyush> nickrud:ok
[17:25] <nickrud> piyush, if you use root, you'll have to log out completely then back in
[17:25] <ricksta1080> hi everyone, merry christmas
[17:25] <phenom> Damn, this whole network is clueless of rkhunter :P
[17:25] <xcst> Vad1, nope
[17:25] <phenom> :/\
[17:25] <piyush> nickrud:ok
[17:25] <jgoo> nickrud: so if I misplace my root password now, I can just use the ubuntu 7.10 CD to boot in and run that command??
[17:26] <piyush> nickrud:telinit 2  ? am i supposed to pipe it?
[17:26] <nickrud> jgoo, no, since you would be doing that to the live environment, rather than the hard disk one
[17:26] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Do you have "window decorations" enabled?
[17:26] <WorkingOnWis1> linxeh: boot up this am, 3 hours ago. It looks like Google Desktop is playing around somehow with ram. I am watching the ram usage and process ram usage, and GD will take 500MB of ram for 2 minutes, the release it for 2 minutes(ish) During the time that GD isnt taking that block of ram, my ram used is at about 300ish MB. I'm thinking that while GD is indexing my 70GB of personal data it is causing the kernel to have to swap
[17:26] <nickrud> piyush, no, that just finishes the startup into the gui
[17:26] <jgoo> nickrud: oh - so I need a recovery cd?
[17:26] <xcst> Odd-rationale, window decorations is enabled
[17:27] <JacobSingh> Hey, I'm trying to use deluge, and I set up my port forwarding as usual.  If i set up forwarding on 80, it works fine (via canyouseeme.org), but on my BT port (something high), it doesn't
[17:27] <piyush> nickrud:ok
[17:27] <nickrud> jgoo, yes, I've recovered a root password before (proof that that there is no such thing as security :) but don't remember the steps, you'd have to ask someone else
[17:27] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Do you have emerald installed?
[17:27] <JacobSingh> I'm not a router setup newbie, but wondering if 7.10 by default has some kind of firewall on?
[17:27] <xcst> Odd-rationale, nope
[17:27] <ricksta1080> in the xubuntu update, it says i can upgrade to a new distribution release 7.04, but when i try to, it says authentication the upgrade failed. and that there may be a problem with the network or with the server.... any help?
[17:28] <jgoo> nickrud: if it requires physical access to the machine, security is already comprimised
[17:28] <nickrud> jgoo, yes.
[17:28] <Odd-rationale> xcst: install it
[17:28] <xcst> install emerald?
[17:28] <jgoo> nickrud: however, I am curious if you recover the password, or just change it... and I would like to know how (I just reinstalled a new install, as after reboot, I was utterly clueless as to what I had entered!!!)
[17:28] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Why not?
[17:29] <xcst> ok
[17:29] <nickrud> jgoo, on a new install, there is no root password, you'd have to set it. But it's not needed, sudo -i gives you everything having a root password would
[17:29] <WorkingOnWis1> linxeh: sound possible?
[17:29] <ricksta1080> in the xubuntu update, it says i can upgrade to a new distribution release 7.04, but when i try to, it says authenticating the upgrade failed. and that there may be a problem with the network or with the server.... any help?
[17:29] <alexbobp> JacobSingh: there's no firewall in Ubuntu until you install it.
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jgoo: Resetting the password, not recovering it.. huge difference
[17:29] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Then restart compiz and tell us whether it works.
[17:30] <Fezzler> How do I see startup processes?
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbobp: Not quite true...  iptables are inplace
[17:30] <xcst> Odd-rationale, how do i restart compiz
[17:30] <JacobSingh> alexbobp: damn it... I wonder what it is, perhaps my modem is being a pain...
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall > JacobSingh:
[17:30] <alexbobp> Jack_Sparrow: I didn't know that.  Does it restrict anything by default?
[17:31] <alexbobp> JacobSingh: It could be your isp.
[17:31] <burner> alexbobp: it doesn't
[17:31] <alexbobp> or it could be a router or whatnot
[17:31] <JacobSingh> nah... everything is ACCEPT
[17:31] <nickrud> jgoo, iirc it's clearing the password so there is none, then resetting it
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbobp: firestarter and guarddog are iptable managers....   For fun you can take a fresh install and go to grc.com and check for open ports...
[17:31] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Maybe ctrl + alt + bksp will be better.
[17:31] <JacobSingh> must be my stupid DSL modem / ISAP
[17:31] <ricksta1080> in the xubuntu update, it says i can upgrade to a new distribution release 7.04, but when i try to, it says authenticating the upgrade failed. and that there may be a problem with the network or with the server.... any help?
[17:32] <alexbobp> Jack_Sparrow: I have loads of open ports.  HTTP, cvs, svn, ssh, etc
[17:32] <Fezzler> How to see startup processes...>System>Preferences>Sessions
[17:32] <jgoo> BTW: super-key + tab == 100% win
[17:32] <WorkingOnWis1> I need help pinning down a memory management problem that is making me think this is a WinXP laptop again! It looks like Google Desktop is playing around somehow with ram. I am watching the ram usage and process ram usage, and GD will take 500MB of ram for 2 minutes, the release it for 2 minutes(ish) During the time that GD isnt taking that block of ram, my ram used is at about 300ish MB. I'm thinking that while GD is index
[17:32] <nickrud> !upgrade | ricksta1080
[17:32] <ubotu> ricksta1080: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:33] <jgoo> plus, super-key shift tab actually works, whereas alt-shift tab doesn't!
[17:33] <alexbobp> although I'm somewhere I'm not usually, so the router would be blocking most of it.  I freed up 80 and some other stuff for bittorrent.
[17:33] <hk2999> wow superkey+tab indeed is win
[17:33] <Fezzler> superkey+tab is cool
[17:33] <burner> jgoo: i've searched high and low to fix it, any idea how to fix the alt+shift+tab?
[17:33] <Fezzler> so is superkey+E
[17:33] <jgoo> plus super + right mouse == zoom, or scroll wheel :p
[17:33] <PointyThingsHurt> ahhhh
[17:33] <jgoo> burner: yes, use super-tab instead - I prefer it actually
[17:33] <PointyThingsHurt> compiz is beautiful ;)
[17:34] <Fezzler> I like superkey+1, or 2 or 3
[17:34] <burner> jgoo: well yeah ;)  but that's not really "fixing" it
[17:34] <nickrud> PointyThingsHurt, do you have emerald and compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[17:34] <alexbobp> burner: Map alt to super on a low level.  By low level, I mean your keyboard and a soldering iron.
[17:35] <alexbobp> are you talking about with compiz?
[17:35] <ricksta1080> how can i check which version of xubuntu im running?
[17:35]  * burner refrains from alexbobp's "solution"
[17:35] <jgoo> Fezzler: super-key 2 is broken - it keep resetting the mouse to the center :(
[17:35] <Fezzler> try superkey+M
[17:35] <nickrud> richard2006,   lsb_release -a   in a terminal
[17:35] <nickrud> Fezzler, that is perverse :)
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbobp: HAve you ever done grc.com on an unmodified system?
[17:35] <suncydu> need help with AMSN. There are no sound playing when users send me messages. Anyone pleasse??
[17:35] <Fezzler> jgoo: You must not have it set up
[17:35] <frojnd> how can I access my LAN peers ?
[17:35] <jgoo> Fezzler: WOW!! I super-eye-strain-free-tastic
[17:36] <burner> frojnd: places, network ?
[17:36] <frojnd> burner, yes
[17:36] <alexbobp> Jack_Sparrow: No, but when I get back to a direct internet connection, I'll try it on the livecd
[17:36] <jgoo> my terminal lost is opacity settings though :-/ still other than that... great super-M!
[17:36] <alexbobp> or my current system.  It's modified, but it doesn't have a firewall.
[17:36] <frojnd> burner, u know with file maneger
[17:36] <PointyThingsHurt> nickrud: just compiz-settings-manager
[17:36] <PointyThingsHurt> compizconfig*
[17:36] <morcegolas> hello
[17:36] <frojnd> burner, what do I have to write in location? smb:/ won't work
[17:37] <jgoo> super-tab after super-M == spiderman cool
[17:37] <nickrud> PointyThingsHurt, emerald gives you some really pretty window borders, infinitely variable. It'll be under prefs->emerald
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> alexbobp: all common ports scanned are closed or stealth.. closed isnt stealth but you can stealth those if wanted...
[17:37] <morcegolas> can anybody helpme configuring HELLANZB
[17:37] <morcegolas> ?
[17:37] <WorkingOnWis1> Jack_Sparrow: nickrud you any good with memory management problems?
[17:37] <PointyThingsHurt> nickrud: sudo apt-get install emerald
[17:37] <PointyThingsHurt> ?
[17:37] <burner> frojnd: smb:/ should be all there is to it... are you sure there are smb servers on your network?
[17:37] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, not really
[17:37] <WorkingOnWis1> :(
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: gotta go.. take care...
[17:37] <nickrud> PointyThingsHurt, yes
[17:37] <alexbobp> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see the point in stealthing ports unless I'm trying to hide my computer, and I like responding to pings
[17:37] <jgoo> in super-tab mode, how can I change the grey sheen at the bottom to an apple style glassy black? :-/
[17:37] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, have a very pleasant holiday, see ya
[17:38] <Fezzler> superkey+c centers my pointer
[17:38] <PointyThingsHurt> wow
[17:38] <hk2999> there really should be a "complete compiz" manual.
[17:38] <PointyThingsHurt> i have this terminal set to transparent
[17:38] <kylebaked> merry xmas!
[17:38] <PointyThingsHurt> and now with compiz installed, i can actually SEE the windows behind them instead of just the desktop
[17:38] <hk2999> anybody knows. i mean something as great as this should be documented.
[17:38] <jgoo> super-v maximises :p
[17:38] <Tyczek> I added to key combination in xbindkeys this command" echo 40 | sudo dd of=/proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness, when i press in xbindkeys "run action"-it works, but when i do it by keys it won't work. Do u know how to fix it ?
[17:38] <kylebaked> is there a linux alternative to intellitamper?
[17:39] <frojnd> burner, yes, I'm sure they are there, I can ping em... when I type in smb:/ it automatically change what I write into smb:///
[17:39] <burner> wtf is intellitamper?
[17:39] <morcegolas> HELLANZB HELP PLEASE PVT
[17:39] <kylebaked> its a program that will map out website directories for you
[17:39] <alexbobp> Is there an easy way to make compiz work with kde yet?
[17:39] <xcst> thanks it workd
[17:39] <nickrud> PointyThingsHurt, it's fun, and #compiz-fusion often has people that will tell you some really nifty stuff
[17:39] <burner> frojnd: can you do smb://ipaddress ?
[17:39] <kylebaked> it uses a dictionary list to find all the directories and subdirs of servers
[17:39] <tritium> kylebaked: wget may do that
[17:39] <VladimirBG> hi, I'm about to get a new cellphone, and I was wondering, how compatible is Ubuntu with UIQ3 Symbian models? (Sony Ericsson p990i to be exact) Does it sync calendar, adressbook, notes, mail?
[17:39] <frojnd> Burlynn, yes I can
[17:39] <Odd-rationale> xcst: Great! Have a Happy Holiday!
[17:39] <frojnd> burner, yes I can
[17:39] <xcst> is there any other instant messenger that i can use? people who use yahoo messenger cant send files to me
[17:39] <burner> alexbobp: kde will have its own compositing manager in kde4
[17:39] <frojnd> Burlynn, sorry it was for burner
[17:40] <burner> frojnd: so just use smb://ip :)
[17:40] <Odd-rationale> xcst: pidgin?
[17:40] <frojnd> burner, but I still would like to se my network name uknow like mshome or whatever
[17:40] <xcst> im using pigdin
[17:40] <alexbobp> burner: sounds like fun.  Will it run compiz-fusion plugins?  when is kde4 coming out?
[17:40] <Ward_> I know that all of you are busy enjoying your families but I wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas
[17:40] <Odd-rationale> xcst: OK sorry i don't know then
[17:40] <burner> alexbobp: 16 days
[17:40] <alexbobp> w00t!
[17:41] <wols_> alexbobp: kubuntu with kde4 will come april 08
[17:41] <xcst> thanks Odd-rationale
[17:41] <WorkingOnWis1> pricechild: any good with memory management problems?
[17:41]  * burner wants to wish all the atheists a happy december 25th... we can enjoy the day off too without the jesus stuff :)
[17:41] <nickrud> !o4o burner (and to you as well :)
[17:41] <Fezzler> Crud - I was browsing Startup Sessions and deleted something called Tracker?  OOPS.  Do I need that?
[17:42] <_mug> hey
[17:42] <nickrud> Fezzler, it provides something similar to google desktop, optional.
[17:43]  * Ttech thinks Beagle is the best
[17:44] <unf> hello
[17:44] <fiXXXerMet> Does Ubuntu Server support a LSI LSI53C1030 SCSI controller?
[17:44] <lukewarm_> !hi > unf
[17:44] <oz66> salut
[17:44] <piyush> nickrud: well everything was fine except....it said  gid 110 already in use so  i used 111
[17:44] <piyush> then sudo is working ok
[17:44] <esploratore68> configurare  televisione analogica su soni vaio vgc-v3m
[17:44] <_mug> i am sick of linux-ati-drivers. the unrestricted ati-driver crashes my complete x server from time to time plus it is VERY slow. the restricted driver works, but the videocard-fan is loud as hell and the card gets hotter and hotter, even if i do nothing. any ideas? (ati x800 gto)
[17:44] <_mug> do nvidia drivers work better?
[17:45] <unf> im having problems when trying to come back from a suspension/hibernate
[17:45] <oz66> y a t'il des français
[17:45] <piyush> nickrud: but the problem is still thre
[17:45] <unf> in a toshiba laptop
[17:45] <Tilllinux> heya guys
[17:45] <hk2999> anyone know a good compiz manual out there?
[17:45] <piyush> nickrud:if i start users-admin iit shows blank windows
[17:45] <esploratore68> non viene riconosciuta la scheda
[17:46] <lukewarm_> !fr > oz66
[17:46] <trekker> hi
[17:46] <trekker> im french
[17:46] <piyush> nickrud:hello are u there ???
[17:46] <trekker> i andrea
[17:46] <alexbobp> unf: I had the same problem when I had a toshiba laptop
[17:47] <Tilllinux> does anyone know, why a wacom intuos3 won't be recognized as an inputDevice? well, I can move around the cursor and drag icons, but no graphics-program recognizes the tablet; I also tried editing the xorg.conf and added the missing lines, but this won't help either
[17:47] <alexbobp> unf: in fact, I pretty much had every problem imaginable when I had a toshiba laptop.
[17:47] <oz66> oui
[17:47] <trekker> slt à tous
[17:47] <oz66> slt trekker
[17:47] <nickrud> piyush, was looking at something:   run gksu-properties  , make sure it's set to sudo
[17:47] <piyush> nickrud: i dont have access to even my sound card :(
[17:48] <piyush> nickrud:ok
[17:48] <Fezzler> One of my 2007 New Year Resolutions was to learn Linux and after much research I chose Ubuntu.  Good choice.
[17:48] <Joelito> Is it safe to use always a root user for webbrowsing, server programming, IMs, IRc, etc, etc...?
[17:48] <unf> by the moment im only having this problem (after i had solved my wifi problems LOL)
[17:48] <trekker> tu es d'ou oz
[17:48] <oz66> de perpignan et toi
[17:48] <trekker> saintes
[17:48] <Fezzler> But I've climbed the learning curve now to realize to harness its power and flexibility I need to learn Linux proper.
[17:49] <trekker> tu connais bien cet irc ?
[17:49] <piyush> nickrud: yah it set to sudo
[17:49] <oz66> non
[17:49] <VladimirBG> Anyone here that knows about syncing phones with evolution?
[17:49] <wols_> !fr | trekker
[17:49] <ubotu> trekker: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:49] <oz66> je debute sous ubunyu
[17:49] <oz66> rt toi
[17:49] <nickrud> piyush, I didn't look real close at your group file till just now, you are missing many groups.  I'll put mine up, a sec
[17:50] <piyush> nickrud: ok
[17:50] <_mug> Joelito: dont think so. and why would you do that? one bug in your browser, which can be exploited remotely via an "evil" website, and the attacker has got complete control over your system. when browsing as a user, he still can exploit some browser-vuln but hasnt got root-rights yet
[17:50] <wols_> oz66: this is not a french channel. ubotu already told you where to to go speak french
[17:51] <JonaTh> "No volume control Gstreamer plugins and/or devices found" pop-up when I want to manage the volume on my laptop (Gutsy). No sound either.
[17:51] <oz66> ok
[17:53] <yubwyub> are anyone here that have run xsnow? and it works ok until you move the windows, wich xsnow don't understand.....
[17:53] <nickrud> piyush, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2999/ , I've also included /etc/passwd , I'd expect you to be missing some of those as well. Everything after rich in both are extras, but you should have all before.
[17:54] <piyush> nickrud: ok
[17:54] <th_> anyone familiar with ubuntu on macbook pro (ati/x1600 rev) ?-)
[17:54] <nickrud> piyush, you could go thru and add all of them, but I'd be suspicious you're missing other stuff you'd have to identify. I'd consider reinstall if you haven't changed much
[17:55] <anas> how could i edit mdb in ubuntu ??
[17:55] <th_> last 'obstacle' to go... gotta get sleep/suspend working
[17:55] <nickrud> piyush, and I can't imagine how they all got lost
[17:55] <Asathoor> merry xmas
[17:55] <piyush> nickrud: ok .... bt idont like reinstalling......struggling is much better    :)
[17:55] <nickrud> piyush, good on you :)
[17:56] <tom3> hey, what would be the recomended minimal space for ubuntu? want to create a dual boot vista laptop, and i don't want it to be too big
[17:56] <piyush> nickrud: yah thats what v r confused about...
[17:56] <Masse> Is there a way to minimize evolution to the notification area?
[17:56] <MrPiracy> how can i extract tar.gz or zip files using ark? it says "not permited" all the time
[17:56] <nickrud> tom3, 6-7gb would do for an experimental install
[17:56] <Asathoor> !wget
[17:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <tom3> nickrud, so with 15gig it should be comftable ?
[17:57] <_mug> MrPiracy: sounds like you dont have an ark-problem, but a permissions-problem?
[17:57] <nickrud> tom3, absolutely, plenty of room to install a lot of stuff
[17:57] <_mug> MrPiracy: maybe the file(s) belong to another user
[17:57] <anas> help plz .. how to edit mdb (microsoft access database) in ubuntu ??
[17:57] <tom3> nickrud, i want it to be as no nonsence as possible, seeing as it's not my laptop, ...k tnx
[17:57] <MrPiracy> _mug, i downloaded gnome themes, but i guess it applies to any kind of files, i have root password, but how can i apply it?
[17:57] <Masse> !evolution
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:57] <piyush> nickrud:o k i m adding only some of the important groups like... related to hardware file n other important deamons .....is that ok??
[17:58] <kane77> how do I make iso image from directory?
[17:58] <tom3> anything i should be aware about when installing 7.10 next to a vista?
[17:58] <nickrud> piyush, yes, but I would add them all, and be sure to look over /etc/passwd carefully, many of those are essential
[17:58] <_mug> MrPiracy: quick and dirty: sudo chown youruser.yourgroup FILE
[17:58] <_mug> then try to extract it
[17:58] <nickrud> piyush, scratch that, all before rich in both are essential
[17:59] <piyush> nickrud: ok as  wish
[17:59] <Skfarek> how can i check which resulution uses under tty ?
[17:59] <anas> how can i  edit mdb (microsoft access database) in ubuntu ?
[17:59] <MrPiracy> _mug, is there a way to open ark with root privileges
[18:00] <nickrud> tom3, not really, the install is pretty painless. If you're resizing your ntfs, be sure to defrag and backup first (safety first, always)
[18:00] <_mug> MrPiracy: not via point-and-click i think (dunno)
[18:00] <domen> hello. is there a pseude package to install stuff for developers? (build-essential is nowhere near that)
[18:00] <domen> pseudo*, doh
[18:00] <tom3> nickrud, yeah i used the windows side to do the repartitioning, i'll give it a go, i'm sure i'll talk to you all later, thanks already
[18:01] <Tilllinux> Has anyone got a clue, why my intuos3 tablet won't work correctly?
[18:01] <kane77> domen, not sure such package exists.. it greatly depends what you want to develop and using what languages/IDE's
[18:02] <anas> how can i  edit mdb (microsoft access database) in ubuntu ?
[18:02] <Schmick> Tilllinux, what do you mean as "not working correctly"?... not working at all or what?
[18:02] <domen> kane77: there's lots of common stuff: cscope, valgrind, gtk headers,...
[18:02] <Tilllinux> Schmick: well, I can move the cursor and drag icons, but the graphic programs won't recognize it as an "erweitertes" (=extended) inputDevice
[18:03] <Tilllinux> in inkscape I can only draw, when I'm holding down a hotkey while moving the pen around... but I can't use the pitch/pressure options at all
[18:04] <Tilllinux> it's just like a mouse cursor without a left-mouse button :p
[18:04] <Tilllinux> -cursor
[18:04] <pteague> get a mac mouse... those only have 1 button & i'm pretty sure it's a left button? =)
[18:04] <Schmick> Tilllinux, hmmmm.... check /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... there is a comented section regarding wacom tablets... it sayis if you own a wacom tabled, it must be uncommented. Try that.
[18:05] <anas> how to  edit mdb (microsoft access database) in ubuntu ?
[18:05] <Tilllinux> no, there isn't
[18:05] <anas> hello???????????????????????????????????????????
[18:05] <Tilllinux> I had to add the lines myself... and that didn't work
[18:05] <mariocesar_bo> I just install tomboy from the source and runs ok, But the tomboy gnome applet is missing, how can I get the tomboy applet again?
[18:05] <anas> how to edit mdb (microsoft access database) in ubuntu ?
[18:05] <wols_> !attitude | anas
[18:05] <ubotu> anas: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:05] <nickrud> anas, not doable
[18:05] <jay3dlinux> hi, and merry xmas
[18:05] <Schmick> anas, you might use wine to use M$ Access...
[18:05] <Tilllinux> anas, try importing with openoffice
[18:06] <pteague> anas> install windows in a virtual machine (see virtualbox & vmware server) & then install access on that
[18:06] <jay3dlinux> please can anybody try to access this: http://jay3d.dyndns.org:81/joomla/
[18:06]  * Schmick doesn't like mdbs... uaj.. 
[18:06] <jay3dlinux> i'm testing my web site
[18:06] <linxeh> jay3dlinux: works, slowly
[18:07] <linxeh> "Welcome to the front page"
[18:07] <pteague> jay3dlinux> you using an isp that doesn't allow port 80 connections? =)  been there done that... you can also use 8080
[18:07] <jay3dlinux> thanks!
[18:07] <Schmick> jay3dlinux, got a hit... workin.. slowly, but working.
[18:07] <W1ZrD> Merry Christmas everyone by the way :)
[18:07] <linxeh> jay3dlinux: why is the front page so big ?
[18:07] <linxeh> oh, its not that big
[18:07] <jay3dlinux> the 8080 also blocked
[18:08] <yubwyub> ypu W1ZrD, merry xmas :-)
[18:08] <Joelito> anyone has used apache + php with a non-root user? Help me! :(
[18:08] <Tilllinux> Schmick: nearly got it... it seems my xserver is using the wrong config file
[18:08] <pteague> jay3dlinux> lol, yer kidding me? who do you have? i'll make sure not to use them
[18:09] <jay3dlinux> it's Etisalat telecommunications company in UAE
[18:09] <jay3dlinux> they block all those ports
[18:09] <jay3dlinux> except 81
[18:10] <UbuntMe> MERRY CHRISTMAS!
[18:10] <jay3dlinux> and idea how to forward requests by using dyndns.org free service?
[18:10] <_mug> .oO( i wish i lived in the uk for tonight.. new drwho episode :P)
[18:10] <Schmick> lol Tilllinux, "what you thought was most correct, was causing all the problems... " Murphy.
[18:11] <wols_> jay3dlinux: to what do you connect on port 81?
[18:11] <nickrud> !info ez-ipupdate | jay3dlinux
[18:11] <ubotu> jay3dlinux: ez-ipupdate: client for most dynamic DNS services. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.11b8-13 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 292 kB
[18:11] <jay3dlinux> i made Apache listen to 81 instead of 80
[18:11] <jay3dlinux> i use ddclient
[18:11] <nickrud> jay3dlinux, then why'd you ask :)
[18:12] <pteague> jay3dlinux> i set up my firewall to forward whatever port i was using to port 80 on my webserver so i didn't need to worry about weird ports'
[18:12] <nickrud> jay3dlinux, oh, on second thought don't mind me I see what you want
[18:12] <SyntaxError55> why when I try to remove the package gaim it also tries to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[18:12] <piyush> nickrud:  conflict
[18:13] <piyush> nickrud: in your file it says root:x:0
[18:13] <Masse> Anyone familiar with using evolution?
[18:13] <Tilllinux> restarting X, cya
[18:13] <SyntaxError55> !ask > Masse
[18:13] <sunnug> SyntaxError55: dont worry about it, i thought it was really going to remove a desktop but it did not
[18:14] <piyush> nickrud: n my file says push:x:0  .. . my file didnt even had any root:x:0
[18:14] <SyntaxError55> sunnug: ok.
[18:14] <Masse> Is there a way to minimize evolution to the notification area?
[18:14] <nickrud> SyntaxError55, because ubuntu-desktop depends on it. ubuntu-desktop is just a list of packages , just reinstall it before you upgrade to the next version
[18:14] <nickrud> piyush, that worries me, a lot. what's push?
[18:14] <piyush> nickrud: should i replace it with root:x:0
[18:15] <nickrud> piyush, I'd reinstall, just too much uncertainty about how this happened.
[18:15] <SyntaxError55> nickrud: So when I upgrade to Hoary I'll have to reinstall the package ubuntu-desktop ?
[18:15] <piyush> nickrud: push actually its my login name many times....
[18:15] <Eyemean> hi, merry christmas
[18:15] <SyntaxError55> Eyemean: Merry Christmas to you to :)
[18:15] <Tilllinux> yay that worked
[18:15] <nickrud> SyntaxError55, you're running warty???
[18:16] <Eyemean> i have guty installed and have radeon 9550 and want to try get dual screen working like i had on 7.04
[18:16] <piyush> nickrud:ok i hav edited the almost file ,,, y not try it   :)
[18:16] <SyntaxError55> SyntaxError55: no, Dapper. :| I forgot the name of the next LTS XDDDD
[18:16] <nickrud> piyush, yes you want root as 0 , not you
[18:16] <xal2> Hi
[18:16] <nickrud> SyntaxError55, oh :)  And yes
[18:17] <Eyemean> syntaxerror55, cheers
[18:17] <thor> SyntaxError55 I think the next LTS is Hoary Hedgehog
[18:17] <nickrud> SyntaxError55, ubuntu-desktop will have the new list of apps to make the desktop work right, you'd definitely want them
[18:17] <moteyalpha> !libxml2.so.2
[18:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2.so.2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:17] <astro76> !hardy | SyntaxError55
[18:17] <ubotu> SyntaxError55: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:17] <xal2> I have a logitech quickcam pro 9000. It's a webcam with a built in microphone and it's all connected via one usb connector.
[18:17] <x3roconf> does anyone know a workaround for nvidia driver FAN BUG?
[18:17] <SyntaxError55> nickrud: Ok. ubuntu-desktop is just a list then. All my gnome programs still exist.
[18:17] <xal2> I have the cam working but I cannot figure out the microphone.
[18:17] <nickrud> SyntaxError55, yes
[18:17] <SyntaxError55> astro76: I knew it started with an H ;D
[18:18] <anas> what is the irc channel of openoffice plz ??
[18:18] <SyntaxError55> nickrud: thanks :)
[18:18] <moteyalpha>  Anyone have information on a bug with  libxml2.so.2
[18:18] <SyntaxError55> anas: #Openoffice.org
[18:19] <arkaitz> hola hay alguien
[18:19] <arkaitz> ?
[18:19] <jatt> !es
[18:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:19] <evan__> hey i have this problem i enabled the nvidia ( not opensource ) video driver and now my pc freezes everytime i use firefox
[18:19] <fraterm> sound recorder is fully borked on amd64 it seems.
[18:20]  * nickrud has got to get a microphone one of these days
[18:20] <fraterm> or at least the gstreamer alsa methods are rather broken.
[18:20] <xal2> Does anyone have real surround sound working?
[18:20] <xal2> 5.1
[18:20] <x3roconf> lol i don't have such problem but fan bug is very ANNOYING
[18:20] <fraterm> don't have the speakers to really verify.
[18:21] <xal2> I know there is a way to duplicate output, but that's not the same.
[18:21] <fraterm> I think my card is capable of it, but I haven't tried anything but the basics.
[18:21] <fraterm> just an on board nvidia sound card.
[18:21] <xal2> I have onboard 5.1
[18:21] <xal2> works great in windows
[18:21] <wols_> fraterm: ac97 ir snd-hda-intel depending how old
[18:21] <x3roconf> !fin
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:22] <fraterm> snd-hda-intel i think wols_
[18:22] <WorkingOnWis1> I as gonna update to Hardy by changing the souyrses.list from Gutsy to Hardy. No sources are in there, but when I updated the repos a few minutes ago, there were like 50 it checked! Where is my sources.list?
[18:22]  * fraterm looks at his modules.
[18:22] <wols_> WorkingOnWis1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:22] <fraterm> is Hardy enjoyable?
[18:22]  * blingmobile looks at fraterm's modules.
[18:22]  * fraterm blushes
[18:22] <SyntaxError55> WorkingOnWis1: #ubuntu+1
[18:22] <blingmobile> I like your modules.
[18:22] <WorkingOnWis1> Hardy is a l p h a. risky to run
[18:23] <Ereal1> hey has anyone had problems with gusty on bootup my system freezes sum time and I have to reboot?
[18:23] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, if you capitalized those letters, you'd be even closer to it's status :)
[18:23] <wols_> WorkingOnWis1: considering how many new mor^Wusers run sid and come to #debian with their problems: lost cause
[18:23] <jgoo> ok... I used to just use DVD-decrypt to rip unencumbered copies of DVD's so I can watch them from my media box - however, now I am using AcidRip... or thoggen dvd rip (or DVD::Rip)
[18:24] <jgoo> how can I make just a simple deCSSed iso of the DVD?? (to mount using vlc later)
[18:24] <WorkingOnWis1> wols_: i didnt follow that at all....
[18:24] <jgoo> or just copy the files off (not make an iso)
[18:25] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, hardy is sid right now, and probably even less stable
[18:25] <sunnug> jgoo: can you not just use dd  ?
[18:25] <WorkingOnWis1> wols_:  /etc/apt/sources.list is the file I am loking at. 2 lines in there....
[18:25] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud:  sid=still in development?
[18:25] <fraterm> snd_intel8x0
[18:25] <jgoo> sunnug: ?? dd would pull the iso directly off the media?
[18:25] <fraterm> nvidia ck804
[18:26] <jgoo> !dd > jgoo
[18:26] <sunnug> jgoo: yes it will copy off the media,
[18:26] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, sid=sid (the toy breaker) in Toy Story
[18:26] <Ereal1> hey is it a good idea to update my kernel manualy
[18:26] <wols_> fraterm: ac97 then
[18:26] <Ereal1> instead of waiting for the repository
[18:26] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: lmao! hehehe...gott it!
[18:26] <wols_> Ereal1: update how exactly?
[18:26] <fraterm> well, sound recording is rather frustratingly broken with gnome.
[18:26] <Xnor> just got a new Asus Eee, anyone have experience with those?
[18:26] <th_> gnh... my mbp goes to sleep but doesn't wake up:)
[18:27] <Ereal1> dl the kernel source from the web
[18:27] <fraterm> gstreamer is kind of making me frown.
[18:27] <fraterm> what with it hanging hither and yon.
[18:27] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, all the releases in debian are named after Toy Story characters, and that name never changes :)
[18:27] <wols_> Ereal1: kernel.org you mean? that's fine as long as you use kernel-package to compile it.
[18:27] <piyush> nickrud:can u tell me meaning of this root:x:0:0 (psswd file) so that i can edit it sensiby...!
[18:27] <Ereal1> yea because I gota tell you gusty is been acting like a total puta bitch
[18:27] <wols_> piyush: do not do this. and no you cannot edit in sensibly. it'S perfect as it is
[18:28] <Ereal1> it crash as mucha windows
[18:28] <fraterm> wols_: do you do any microphone recording?
[18:28] <wols_> fraterm: no
[18:28] <piyush> :(
[18:28] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: cool. closest to debian I ever got is right here.
[18:28] <SyntaxError55> !language | Ereal1
[18:28] <ubotu> Ereal1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:28]  * fraterm cries, pulls the ol aptitude install kubuntu-desktop trick.
[18:29] <Ereal1> hey guys do ya know what service IRQ IS?
[18:29] <wols_> piyush: it means: username root, passwor is in shadowfile, UID 0, GID 0
[18:29] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: :| I don't know if it'll work much better
[18:29] <wols_> Interrupt Request. it's no service
[18:29] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: I'm just wanting to be able to record off of my mic
[18:29] <piyush> wols_:thanx yes i wanted to match the GIDS only :)
[18:30] <jgoo> ok I am looking and I see "dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/dvd.iso conv=noerror" and "dvdbackup -M -i/dev/hda -o/home/my/mydirectory" - anyone know the pros and cons?
[18:30] <fraterm> I promised someone I'd do a reading of one of their poems.
[18:30] <jgoo> one rips an iso, the other is like dvddecrypter?
[18:30] <fraterm> now I'm looking like a jerk.
[18:30] <nickrud> piyush, see wols_ and he almost certainly knows this stuff better that I do
[18:30] <fraterm> unless I go and use windows.
[18:30] <wols_> piyush: man 5 passwd
[18:30] <fraterm> which I'm too proud to do.
[18:30] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: I think KMix does tha.
[18:30] <SyntaxError55> !info kmix
[18:30] <ubotu> kmix: sound mixer applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 396 kB, installed size 1252 kB
[18:30] <jgoo> fraterm - call your cell provider, ask for email voicemail, then call yourself and leave a voicemail
[18:30] <piyush> nickrud:ok
[18:31] <fraterm> yeah.
[18:31] <fraterm> jgoo: that's so sad.
[18:31] <wols_> piyush: you do NOT want to give any user GID 0, nor want you change root's.
[18:31] <jgoo> also useful when you get stopped and tasered by the police, record everything
[18:31] <fraterm> :D
[18:31] <piyush> wols_:ok
[18:31] <fraterm> but it's funny.
[18:31] <nickrud> wols_, he's got a screwed up group and passwd file, he's mucking about for fun and learning
[18:31] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: I think you can sudo apt-get kmix without getting the whole kubuntu-desktop
[18:31] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: I've got the room
[18:31] <jgoo> fraterm: start using asterisk - :-) the easiest way to record your own menu options is to pick up the phone and dial your installation...
[18:31] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: then go for it :D I prefer KDE honestly
[18:32] <fraterm> jgoo: Well, ekiga works fine.
[18:32] <WorkingOnWis1> anyone care to splain something? I am old school geek. Computers had 16 IRQ's, 0-15. Win2K was able so share IRQ's and not freeze, most of the time. But now, My lappy has at least 24? I'm guessing it is actually 32?! Is that cuz of the dual core cpu? are they real IRQ's or software?
[18:32] <jgoo> audacity ?
[18:32] <evan__> hey i have an driver problem... i have an nvidia video card and driver...when i run firefox my system crashes
[18:32] <evan__> who got solutions?
[18:32] <fraterm> jgoo: so I know my mic itself works... audacity and gnome record fail.
[18:32] <piyush> wols_:no i`ve just edited the /etc/group file and added some missing groups n their IDs
[18:32] <fraterm> because they depend on the rock-solid gstreamer framework.
[18:32] <fraterm> (lol)
[18:32] <wols_> piyush: that's bad too. man addgroup and such
[18:32] <piyush> wols_:so i thot doing same with psswd file.....using sameGIDS
[18:32] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: AMD 64? :|
[18:32] <fraterm> yes
[18:32] <wols_> but I remember. you're the one with the botched upgrade
[18:33] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: there's a known upstream buglet, that apparently will be fixed sometime never.
[18:33] <fraterm> I might prefer kde now anyway.
[18:33] <egc> can anybody recommend a good internet radio url for trance or ambient music?
[18:34] <piyush> wols_:but many essential groups were literally missing.... for example there was no root:x:0:
[18:34] <sunng> is it a known issue that network i/o error causes gutsy or any ubuntur version really to freeze?
[18:34] <qcode> How do you get rid of the yellow/brown screen when Ubuntu boots?
[18:34] <fraterm> is there a specific 64 bit channel?
[18:34]  * fraterm checks the channel list
[18:35] <Tilllinux> hm, is there a way to enable the pen-pressure control in wine?
[18:35] <sunng> my update is probably screwed as it freeze during the restarting of network (and network i/o errored)
[18:35] <Skfarek> is it possible to set 1400x1050 in fb? i tried from wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer but it doesn't work
[18:36] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: lol "sometime never". That's how it usually goes with things that aren't in high demand (such as, I still run dapper, and most of the time I have to compile updates to apps, like inkscape)
[18:36] <jgoo> !libdvdcss2 > jgoo
[18:36] <fraterm> heh.
[18:37] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: is your box sensibly running a 32 bit distro?
[18:37] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: yes.
[18:37] <x3roconf> !uudecode > x3roconf
[18:37] <fraterm> I suppose I just like the punishment.
[18:38] <fraterm> I keep telling myself that anyway.
[18:38] <fraterm> But I do like the speed of running gimp filters.
[18:38] <fraterm> on really large images.
[18:38] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: lol. from what I know, there's really no reason to have Linux on AMD64 since there aren't really that many linux games.
[18:38] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: most of the games are 32 bit anyway.
[18:38] <SyntaxError55> oh, and yes, the GIMP. I usually go take a dump during the filters and it's not even half way there XD
[18:39] <Tilllinux> SyntaxError55: 64bit is nice for audio/video editing
[18:39] <fraterm> Tilllinux: exactly.
[18:39] <Tilllinux> but I won't install a 64bit ubuntu, though
[18:39] <fraterm> Tilllinux: which is why this gstreamer can't record thing is really doubly irritating.
[18:39] <Synx_hm> Anybody had problems with laptop touch pads, i just tried to install mono for wine and my touch pad has completely stopped working
[18:39] <SyntaxError55> Tilllinux: I'd rather have something highly  supported over speed
[18:39] <th_> i'm running 64bit without any problems O_o
[18:39] <fraterm> I can play quakewars on this box.
[18:40] <fraterm> th_: well then, do you have a working microphone?
[18:40] <Meronik> what is the best file manager for ubuntu ( as powerful as total commander for windows)?
[18:40] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: are you trying KMix/Kubuntu-desktop?
[18:40] <fraterm> :)
[18:40] <th_> fraterm: dunno.. guess it should work :o
[18:40] <Tilllinux> fraterm ... if ubuntu was handling 64bit like.. suse? I'd use a 64bit version, as I think, suse separates the 32bit from the 64bit libs
[18:40] <piyush> wols_:now i m rebooting.....but if it fails...then i`ve downloaded many packages (still in /var/cache/apt/archives).... is there any method to add these packages n newly installed system??
[18:40] <fraterm> SyntaxError55: I will be... it's setting up in a terminal now.
[18:40] <th_> only thing i haven't got working yet is that freakign sleep (macbook pro)
[18:40] <SyntaxError55> fraterm: ok :)
[18:40] <fraterm> th_: well, if you've never used your mic, perhaps you will discover a problem, if you find it doesn't work.
[18:41] <vishal> fraterm: is quake wars good?
[18:41] <SyntaxError55> th_: Sleep doesn't work here either.
[18:41] <Fire-> i got a kinda' strange problem with wine.. I'm using ubuntu 7.10 and installed wine few days ago. Everytime i want to start the winecfg, wine freezes and a few secs after, my whole x server crashes so i have to reboot.
[18:41] <FyRe> could someone tell me how to uninstall murrine configurator?
[18:41] <fraterm> vishal: very fun, takes some brain power to learn
[18:41] <Fire-> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[18:41] <fraterm> and good fundamental twitching.
[18:41] <Synx_hm> Any ideas on the touch pad?
[18:41] <SyntaxError55> Fire-: #winehq ?
[18:41] <piyush> wols_:can i reuse these packages by copying some config file from here??
[18:41] <vishal> fraterm: I wanna get it but need a GFX card lol, I still play ET though,
[18:41] <gmanic> anyone have a working live-cd for ppc? the one on ubuntu.com's not working on my ibook2.
[18:42] <Fire-> tried, nobody answered SyntaxError55.
[18:42] <travkin> Someone know how to fix that ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178234
[18:42] <fraterm> vishal: it runs fine on a Nvidia 7800 :)
[18:42] <Meronik> what is the best file manager for ubuntu ( as powerful as total commander for windows)?
[18:42] <SyntaxError55> Fire-: oh, ok.
[18:42] <fraterm> but yeah, it's a beast of a game.
[18:42] <nickrud> Meronik, midnight commander ( mc is the package name)
[18:42] <fraterm> The installer that splash damage made for linux really works well.
[18:42] <vishal> fraterm: i've got onboard on this and my other pc has Geforce4 MX 420 (64mb) lol
[18:42] <fraterm> all console-ey.
[18:43] <Meronik> nickrud: is it as good as total commander?
[18:43] <HardDisk> Fire-, delete your .wine directory and try again
[18:43] <x3roconf> yes
[18:43] <Fire-> HardDisk, tried alrdy, doenst work at all.
[18:43]  * fraterm logs off and in again to try out kde
[18:43] <th_> well, 'blah' to sleep, everything else works.. good enough :)
[18:43] <HardDisk> and you installed wine according to the website?
[18:43] <HardDisk> with updated ver.
[18:43] <nickrud> Meronik, depends on what you say good is, it's great from my perspective
[18:44] <Meronik> nickrud: a ton of functions
[18:44] <Fire-> well i installed it via synapitc HardDisk
[18:44] <HardDisk> Fire-, no.
[18:44] <HardDisk> Fire-, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[18:44] <HardDisk> read there.
[18:44] <piyush> nickrud:is there anymethod to use these downloaded packages(/var/cache/)    in newly installed system??
[18:44] <nickrud> Meronik, you'd have to try it, it has many functions
[18:45] <wols_> !clone
[18:45] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[18:45] <nickrud> piyush, sure, burn them to disk, and after you finish the install, copy back to the archive
[18:45] <Meronik> nickrud: is it freeware?
[18:45] <nickrud> Meronik, open source
[18:45] <Fire-> HardDisk, whats the difference between this manual install and the installation made by synaptic?
[18:45] <FyRe> could someone tell me how to uninstall murrine configurator?
[18:45] <HardDisk> Fire-, read the site.
[18:45] <kye> How can i setup ubuntu to mount a ntfs drive on startup? i looked inside the /ect/fstab but im not sure of what to add?
[18:46] <HardDisk> it explains.
[18:46] <HardDisk> !mount > kye
[18:46] <martianlobster> I just got a new dell laptop with Ubuntu installed.  How do I set the root password?
[18:46] <piyush> nickrud:only copying back vl work??..wow... gr8   then.....i m rebooting ....thnx for help...... if i dont come back   :)
[18:46] <nickrud> FyRe, uninstall gtk2-engines-murrine
[18:46] <th_> martianlobster: 'sudo su' and then 'passwd' if you want to enable root
[18:46] <kye> HardDisk?
[18:46] <kye> oh
[18:47] <martianlobster> th_:  thanks
[18:47] <HardDisk> martianlobster, sudo passwd
[18:47] <wols_> !root | martianlobster
[18:47] <ubotu> martianlobster: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:47] <morphles> ok wtf i installed linux sources but i cant do make menuconfig or actualy make <anything> (except help); iget lots of errors in some "scripts/basic/fixdep.c" am i missing some package?
[18:47] <SyntaxError55> martianlobster: It was manufactured with Ubuntu installed? Or you installed Ubuntu?
[18:47] <wols_> HardDisk: do not tell it to people.
[18:47] <sunng> is it a known issue that network i/o error causes gutsy or any ubuntu version really to freeze?
[18:47] <martianlobster> thanks HardDiskand wols_
[18:47] <wols_> morphles: yes. kernel-package and the ncurses dev package
[18:47] <nickrud> HardDisk, you should mention sudo -i rather than changing the root passwd
[18:47] <HardDisk> wols_, what is it with telling and not telling people?/
[18:48] <martianlobster> SyntaxError55: it was manufactured and ubuntu was the first os that came on the machine
[18:48] <Fire-> HardDisk, ah okay... so its additional to the existing wine installation
[18:48] <egc> what governs the size of a term window when opened?
[18:48] <martianlobster> brand new from Malyasia with ubuntu preinstalled!
[18:48] <egc> mine doesn't seem to draw as 80x20
[18:48] <kye> HardDisk, I dont have anything called "Disks' in System > Admin > "Disks"
[18:48] <nickrud> egc the option --geometry=80x24 (that's the default)
[18:48] <egc> its coming out 80x24
[18:48] <egc> ahh
[18:48] <egc> how can i permanently modify that?
[18:49] <kye> !DiskMounter
[18:49] <Meronik> what are minimal requirements for ubuntu?
[18:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[18:49] <HardDisk> kye in fstab you can manually enter it, /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs nls=iso8859-1,ro,umask=0 0 0
[18:50] <HardDisk> hda1= your ntfs drive, you need to check that first
[18:50] <kye> sda1
[18:50] <nickrud> egc, it's needed at each invocation iirc , you can edit the launchers or write an alias
[18:50] <kye> thank you HardDisk!
[18:50] <HardDisk> then replace hda1 with sda1
[18:50] <Meronik> what are minimal hardware requirements for ubuntu?
[18:50] <egc> nickrud: got it, thanks
[18:50] <HardDisk> Meronik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[18:50] <sunng> Meronik: have you tried to google for those yet?
[18:51] <nickrud> !jfgi | sunng (or variations thereof)
[18:51] <ubotu> sunng (or variations thereof): Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[18:51] <fraterm> yay.
[18:51] <fraterm> kde is rather nice.
[18:52] <HardDisk> you should also add to the factoid, "and wols_ comments to HardDisk"  :)
[18:52] <nickrud> lol
[18:52] <nickrud> HardDisk, but he is right far more often than not
[18:52] <piyush_> nickrud: o.0 i m back :)
[18:52] <nickrud> piyush_, great
[18:53] <HardDisk> so i should hide information from people.
[18:53] <nickrud> piyush, how about users & groups
[18:53] <HardDisk> yea that's teaching.
[18:53] <piyush_> nickrud: noe i , atleast have access to my modem n soundcard
[18:53] <nickrud> HardDisk, no, mention the security model used in ubuntu, then if they persist, tell.
[18:53] <tonytraductor> I've been using KDE for 8 years, and have started to experiment with other wms...KDE has all kinds of great configurability and features, and stuff, but I am beginning to appreciate simplicity
[18:53] <fraterm> yep, gnome sound recorder shouldn't have been released.
[18:53] <Xan_Fantasy> I am new to Ubuntu and accidentally closed the Network Manager in Gusty how do I get it back
[18:53] <piyush_> nickrud: testing for other things now....
[18:53] <fraterm> blam
[18:53] <tonytraductor> as such, I have been playing with xfce, fluxbox, enlightenment and jwm
[18:53] <alesan> hi, I have a disk set with software RAID partitions. it is a fedora core 6 installation. is it possible to install ubuntu on this?
[18:53] <tonytraductor> I dig flux
[18:54] <HardDisk> IF I was given enough time to explain I would have, instead of being bashed all the time, anyway I'm done with this argument.
[18:54] <Tilllinux> alesan: I don't see the point in using *Software* RAID
[18:54] <alesan> which means, install ubuntu on a raid1 /boot and raid5 /
[18:54] <HardDisk> Xan_Fantasy, right click on panel and click add to panel.
[18:54] <tonytraductor> jwm is kinda cool, very, very light/fast
[18:54] <nickrud> HardDisk, you're far more valuable than than detrimental, for what it's worth
[18:54] <HardDisk> I don't care for my value, i'm just as regular as everyone else is.
[18:54] <alesan> Tilllinux: what do you mean
[18:55] <Xan_Fantasy> HardDisk: the network Manager wasn't there only network moniter
[18:55] <HardDisk> oh manager
[18:56] <Tilllinux> alesan: why should I use a software raid, if I could use a 'hardware' raid... I don't like RAID setups at all
[18:56] <HardDisk> system/administration/network you can right click on it and add to panel
[18:56] <Fire-> HardDisk, thx, works fine.
[18:56] <alesan> ok bye
[18:56] <Xan_Fantasy> HardDisk: I tried that also but that only brought up the network configuration, I need it so if I left click on it I can see the avalible wireless networks
[18:57] <bullgard4> [GNOME] English help wanted. What is the English name of the main menu System > Preferences > 'Hardware infos' menu item? (Activation will open the HAL device manager window.)
[18:57] <nickrud> Xan_Fantasy, alt-f2    nm-applet --sm-disable    should pop it up
[18:57] <HardDisk> nm-applet
[18:57] <piyush_> nickrud: oho that problem persists.... :(    i just started services -admin(sudo).....
[18:57] <HardDisk> he beat me :)
[18:57] <piyush_> nickrud:its giving window saying select services u wanna activat....
[18:57] <piyush_> n the window is absolutely blank.....
[18:58]  * nickrud has a text replace for that one now :)
[18:58] <x3roconf> anyone know good hex editor with tab support (ghex is stupid)
[18:58] <nickrud> piyush_, you can play around some more, or reinstall and get some work done ;p
[18:59]  * fraterm crosses his fingers and hopes krec works well.
[19:00] <nickrud> bullgard4, Hardware Information
[19:00] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much.
[19:00] <Xan_Fantasy> HardDrive/nickrud: it didn't do anything, I also tried to created a launcher with that but that didn't work. I also tried to check the session startup and it is still there
[19:00] <HardDisk> x3roconf, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Editors/Hex/
[19:01] <orduek> hi
[19:01] <x3roconf> HardDisk: thx
[19:01] <kane77> who can give some info about devede? particularly how to add more than one subtitles?
[19:01] <orduek> i have a problem with both assaultcube and Urban Terror
[19:01] <morphles> i unload my wiresl driver with rmmod so i could load ndiswrapper, but still after loadning ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper shows that alternate (the one i "unloaded") driver is used, how could this be and how to fix this?
[19:01] <orduek> on both games' after a few minutes play they go out of fullscreen and stop respond
[19:01] <martianlobster> lol  I am at a cafe,  someone just started a toaster,  I thought the smell was my new laptop!!!
[19:01] <nickrud> Xan_Fantasy, you don't set it up as a launcher ...  try    NetworkManager   in a terminal (caps matter)
[19:02] <e_r_c_1> "And, while they are celebrating the money from those 88 million copies, we can celebrate right along with them. We'll be celebrating the 2-4 % jump in desktop GNU/Linux users that results from the frustration of dealing with blue screens and Digital Rest.
[19:02] <HardDisk> morphles, you can sudo apt-get install ndisgtk and do it via gui to see what's loaded.
[19:02] <e_r_c_1> source:
[19:02] <e_r_c_1> http://badvista.fsf.org/rss_manager.2006-11-03.1305044709/2007-11-07.4029765347
[19:02] <puli> hi guys , my ubuntu is not detecting my memory stick, could u help
[19:02] <martianlobster> I was looking around everywhere, looking for what was burning
[19:02] <Xan_Fantasy> nickrud: do I need a sudo in front of that?
[19:02] <nickrud> Xan_Fantasy, you may need sudo , my memory isn't clear on that
[19:02] <morphles> well i can see with lsmod
[19:02] <Allenwr> Merry Christmas
[19:02] <HardDisk> I'm lazy and tired.
[19:02] <HardDisk> long day
[19:02] <morphles> lsmod doesnt show rtl8187 but ndisraper says alternate driver ...
[19:02] <puli> guys can u help me pls
[19:02] <e_r_c_1> XSBM
[19:03] <e_r_c_1> xmas shoud be marry :=
[19:03] <Allenwr> Good Morning HardDisk
[19:03] <HardDisk> puli, do sudo rmmod ehci_hcd
[19:03] <orduek> somone?
[19:03] <HardDisk> hey Allenwr
[19:03] <Allenwr> What part of the world are you from?
[19:03] <puli> is that the command i should type in?
[19:03] <xhost> hi all
[19:03] <HardDisk> puli, don't forget to sudo modprobe ehci-hcd after
[19:03] <Xan_Fantasy> nickrud: nothing
[19:03] <HardDisk> basically the two commands will make your USB 2.0 to usb 1.0
[19:03] <HardDisk> and the second returns 1.0 back to 2.0
[19:03] <Xan_Fantasy> I believe it is running but I am not able to see the icon
[19:04] <HardDisk> some memory sticks have that problem
[19:04] <nickrud> Xan_Fantasy, hrm, I'm not an expert on networking that usually works here. Try killall gnome-panel (it will restart automatically)
[19:04] <HardDisk> Allenwr, cairo.
[19:04] <egc> nickrud: I also found this: http://altbit.org/wp/?p=29.  It explains another way of making the term geometry stick
[19:04] <Xan_Fantasy> ok it came up with a box for the wpa password
[19:04] <Ex-Cyber> I tried to start an update in Update Manager, and it seems to be stuck waiting for something (has the "waiting" cursor when inside the window); trying to close the window doesn't do anything; how should I go about terminating/restarting it?
[19:04] <orduek> I'll try again
[19:04] <nickrud> egc, that's the same as editing the launcher
[19:05] <egc> nickrud: my problem is that i use ctrl+alt+t to open a term
[19:05] <e_r_c_1> hey guys
[19:05] <Allenwr> Cool.
[19:05] <Xan_Fantasy> the killall didn't bring it back
[19:05] <egc> and it doesn't seem to read those files
[19:05] <orduek> after playing for a few minutes in UrbanTerror it goes out of full screen and stop respondig.
[19:05] <e_r_c_1> do you agree that windows sux?
[19:05] <egc> for a keyboard shortcut
[19:05] <Allenwr> I need to boot linux this morning so I can trouble shoot why its not working...
[19:05] <nickrud> egc, change the  setting to   gnome-terminal --geometry=80x20  in your keyboard shortcut
[19:05] <morphles> HardDisk: ndisgtk doesnt seem to show anything usefull, lsmod and other stuff seems much more usefull but problem is still unclear... :(
[19:05] <Xan_Fantasy> nickrud/HardDisk: thanks for the help, I have to go but I will put a post on the forums to see if anyone knows
[19:06] <nickrud> egc, you can make changes like that in   gconf-editor  /apps/metacity
[19:06] <HardDisk> morphles, check the .ndisxxxx directory
[19:06] <egc> nickrud: great, thanks
[19:06] <HardDisk> if there's one..haven't ndis'd in a while
[19:06] <orduek> anyone?
[19:06] <morphles> HardDisk: in /etc ?
[19:07] <WorkingOnWis1> is there a way to throttle apt so it only takes half my internet pipe?
[19:07] <HardDisk> no in home
[19:07] <HardDisk> /home/
[19:07] <bullgard4> System > Preferences > Hardware Information will open HAL_device_manager. Where will HAL device manager provide information about my RAM (e. g. clocking details) ?
[19:07] <HardDisk> WorkingOnWis1, man apt
[19:07] <HardDisk> or man apt-get
[19:07] <pequatre> hi. i need help making my webcam work on Feisty. I got a "Hercules Dualpix Exchange" webcam and i followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UVC , but still dmesg gives me an error message.
[19:07] <morphles> HardDisk: it shows rtl8187.sys but driver name is diferent, is this ok?
[19:07] <soldats> !webcam
[19:08] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:08] <pequatre> thx soldats but if you read my message you'll see that i've already read the docs
[19:08] <HardDisk> morphles, yea it will happen since the driver can be used on different models.
[19:09] <HardDisk> why didn't you try the linux drivers?
[19:09] <nickrud> who was asking about throttling apt? (cleared my backscroll by accident)
[19:09] <fraterm> grr.
[19:09] <puli> hi guys, my ubuntu is not detecting the memory stick port
[19:09] <morphles> HardDisk:  but if "ndiswrapper -l"  says: "device (0BDA:8187) present (alternate driver: rtl8187" it still means its not ndiswrappers driver is in use?
[19:09] <fraterm> still no recordings.
[19:09] <puli> can u help me pls
[19:09] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: I was
[19:10] <fraterm> I wish this wasn't so difficult.
[19:10] <HardDisk> unload the driver
[19:10] <Fran> please help
[19:10] <orduek> someone knows why games go out of fullscreen and stop responding?
[19:10] <Fran> my internet wireless conection stops working suddenly
[19:10] <x3roconf> what games
[19:11] <Fran> i have a pavilion s3041la
[19:11] <orduek> urban terror and assaultcube
[19:11] <puli> guys can u help me, ubuntu is not detecting my memory stick port at all
[19:11] <orduek> x3roconf: after playing a few minutes it goes out and stop respond
[19:11] <HardDisk> morphles, ftp://202.65.194.212/cn/wlan/rtl8187_linux_26.1025.0328.2007.tar.gz
[19:11] <morphles> HardDisk: i do rmmod rtl8187; modprobe ndiswrapper; ndiswrapper -l and the same result
[19:12] <morphles> HardDisk: whats that archive?
[19:12] <JonaTh> ! Gstreamer
[19:12] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, you can set the throttling in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/  (create a new file there)  and put    http { Dl-Limit "<rate>" ; } in it
[19:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:12] <HardDisk> linux drivers
[19:12] <Hammer89> does anyone know if this guide is good for installing Gutsy? ( http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first )
[19:13] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, forgot to put the closing   ;   in there , it goes after the last  }
[19:13] <white_eagle> Hammer89: why do you need gutsy?
[19:13] <puli> guys can u help me, ubuntu is not detecting my memory stick port at all
[19:13] <white_eagle> :D
[19:13] <white_eagle> kidding
[19:13] <morphles> HardDisk: my card works jus i need for it to work in master (kinda hopeless) or ad-hoc mode to be able to set up an access point
[19:14] <x3roconf> orduek: ati or nvidia what driver u are using
[19:14] <orduek> x3roconf: intel
[19:14] <alex_> hey guys. amarok runs slowly on my machine, is there a good gtk alternative for ubuntu?
[19:14] <x3roconf> orduek: ok
[19:14] <Hammer89> white_eagle: =P
[19:15] <Hammer89> white_eagle: do you know if it's current enough?
[19:15] <jatt> alex_: no there is no alternative as good as amarok
[19:15] <nickrud> alex_, rhythmbox, exaile , banshee , quodlibet , murine
[19:15] <white_eagle> Hammer89: kidding
[19:15] <HardDisk> alex_, www.exaile.org
[19:15] <orduek> x3roconf: is it a good ok or a bad one?
[19:15] <white_eagle> !info exaile
[19:15] <Hammer89> white_eagle: I know you were kidding :)
[19:15] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.10+debian-1.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 437 kB, installed size 2012 kB
[19:16] <Tilllinux>  hm
[19:16] <x3roconf> orduek: ok i don't have intel lol
[19:16] <Tilllinux> ghamachi doesn't work anymore :/
[19:16] <orduek> lol
[19:16] <rodolfo> hi folks i got an error message when trying to install emerald...
[19:16] <alex_> thx guys i'll have a look
[19:16] <HardDisk> morphles, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[19:17] <Andeh> What is the name of the package that installs all the nonfree things like Java, MP3 support, etc?
[19:17] <nickrud> Andeh, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:17] <HardDisk> Andeh, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted.extras
[19:17] <rodolfo> it requires libemeraldengine0 and libemeraldengine-dev where can i get them?
[19:17] <Andeh> thanks
[19:17] <Hammer89> *asks again*: does anyone know if this guide is good for installing Gutsy? ( http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first )
[19:17] <HardDisk> Hammer89, do you want to dualboot?
[19:17] <Tilllinux> !pastebin
[19:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:17] <Hammer89> HardDisk: yes
[19:17] <HardDisk> then follow that guide.
[19:18] <Hammer89> HardDisk: alrighty :)
[19:18] <Tilllinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49542/
[19:18] <Hammer89> HardDisk: are there still bootloader issues installing Vista/Ubuntu dual boot?
[19:18] <Tilllinux> well... actually... the windows stays opened now (after installing gtk blabla pixmaps
[19:18] <HardDisk> Hammer89, blame vista.
[19:18] <HardDisk> :)
[19:18] <Chris[1]> vista X_x
[19:18] <nickrud> Hammer89, it's fine, decent stuff there
[19:18] <HardDisk> but in general you should be ok, if you follow the instructions correctly.
[19:18] <morphles> HardDisk: how do i install/load that driver you gave?
[19:19] <Hammer89> hmm
[19:19] <Andeh> Also, how do I install drivers for my Ati graphics card? The program you run to install restricted drivers says there is nothing availible.
[19:19] <tifine> i want to give the permission to the file so that user can only view it
[19:19] <HardDisk> morphles, uncompress it, and read the README in it
[19:19] <HardDisk> I'm taking a break.
[19:19] <nickrud> Andeh, what kind of video card do you have?
[19:19] <HardDisk> bbl
[19:19] <wols_> Andeh: what ati card exactly?
[19:19] <nickrud> Andeh, model, that is
[19:19] <x3roconf> someone is spamming all the time a file called upds.exe via tftp very lame!
[19:19] <dolphin_noel> hohohoho
[19:19] <dolphin_noel> hello
[19:19] <dolphin_noel> :)
[19:20] <Chris[1]> question, when you have the time, how can I get Wine for ubuntu, on my windows computer. my ubuntu computer cant connect to the net.
[19:20] <Andeh> What is the command you run in terminal to find out what graphics card you have_
[19:20] <RequinB4> merry xmas dolphin_noel, hi
[19:20] <bullgard4> Hammer89: The guide you are mentioning seems to be all right. (I have done several Gutsy installations.)
[19:20] <nickrud> Andeh, lspci | grep -i vga
[19:20] <wols_> !aptoncd | Chris[1]
[19:20] <ubotu> Chris[1]: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[19:20] <wols_> Chris[1]: what network card do you have on ubuntu?
[19:21] <bullgard4> System > Preferences > Hardware Information will open HAL_device_manager. Where will HAL device manager provide information about my RAM (e. g. clocking details) ?
[19:21] <wols_> Chris[1]: or better yet: apt-zip
[19:21] <Andeh> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] (rev 01)
[19:21] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: installing an app designed for ubuntu feisty on ubuntu gutsy can crash the system or run unexpectedly?
[19:21] <Andeh> Where I get drivers for that?
[19:21] <nickrud> bullgard4, not sure about that one, but sudo lshw will tell you all about memory
[19:21] <wols_> bullgard4: it won't usually. try dmidecode
[19:21] <dolphin_noel> RequinB4 good to u 2 :)
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: yes it can
[19:21] <Hammer89> bullgard4: Cool... thanks... have you done Gutsy/vista dual boot?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: Do not switch repos without understanding the concequences
[19:22] <Chris[1]> I cant connect because I have Aol, and the live Ubuntu disk doesnt come with compiling software to make Peng Aol dialer work
[19:22] <bullgard4> Hammer89: yes
[19:22] <morphles> HardDisk: should i place it kernel src directory or sth? i get error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory; while trying to compile
[19:22] <Hammer89> bullgard4: are there any potential issues I should know about before I do it?
[19:22] <Andeh> Where do I get drivers for ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 Radeon Mobility 9200
[19:23] <Xnor> Chris[1]: that's quite common, being unable to install the dev packages to install the driver packages, and you need the driver (eg. network) to get the packages
[19:23] <arkaitz> hola
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: I only have a couple minutes.. what were you trying to do.
[19:23] <Chris[1]> nod, quite frusturating
[19:23] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: i am not. i just typed 'sudo apt-get install emerald' and it returned me that it cannot install because there are file dependencies such as libemeraldengine0 and libemeraldengine-dev
[19:23] <Xnor> Chris[1]: could always try a Starbucks, PJs etc, and get the Peng dialer stuff
[19:23] <arkaitz> alguien sabe castellano?
[19:23] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: so i am looking for each file..
[19:23] <arkaitz> a
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: Which are you running feisty or gutsy
[19:24] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: gutsy.
[19:24] <Chris[1]> I dont have a laptop and I live out in the middle of nowhere, a starbucks would take awhile to get to
[19:24] <wols_> Andeh: ubuntu already comes with them
[19:24] <Chris[1]> So theres no way to direct download Wine?
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: and as I understand it you want to switch to emerald?
[19:24] <Andeh> wols_: Sure, but why aren't they working?
[19:24] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[19:24] <wols_> Andeh: the driver named "ati". NOT a restricted driver
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Chris[1]: It is in the repos
[19:25] <Andeh> wols_: ?
[19:25] <wols_> cause you haven't configured them right, no drm loaded for example
[19:25] <Xnor> Jack_Sparrow: Chris[1]: you mean using apt-cd?
[19:25] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: i mean, no.
[19:25] <arkaitz> #kubuntu-es
[19:25] <Andeh> wols_: How do I configure them?
[19:25] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: i mean, there is no windows decorator installed...as far as i know
[19:25] <wols_> Andeh: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+9200+3D+howto&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[19:25] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: the GTK windows decorator is not enabled.
[19:25] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: what do I name the file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?
[19:26] <Chris[1]> *confused*
[19:26] <Andeh> wols_: I got some unrelated pages in dutch
[19:26] <Soskel> http://webtechmedia.net/wallace_type.mov
[19:26] <Xnor> there is no GTK window decorator
[19:26] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, doesn't really matter i would think, I'd do 999throttle
[19:26] <wols_> Andeh: http://www.howtoforge.com/compiz-fusion-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-ati-mobility-radeon-9200
[19:26] <Xnor> oh, wait, thought window decorator generally came with the WM, unless it's compiz
[19:26] <Rufus_> when i try to add something to /etc/apt/sources.list, it says permission denied
[19:26] <Rufus_> why?
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: I am not sure what you are trying to do....  and I must admit I am preoccupied today...
[19:26] <Rufus_> how do i override?
[19:27] <wols_> Rufus_: only root can edit. gksudo
[19:27] <RequinB4> Rufus - use sudo
[19:27] <Chris[1]> I just switched to ubuntu from Vista, because it kept crashing and wouldnt run on my new vista ready computer :P. I just want to be able to run my videos.
[19:27] <Rufus_> how can i switch to root
[19:27] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: so apt just checks this directory and executes whatever is there?
[19:27] <bullgard4> Hammer89: Yes, there are many potential issues. But I cannot list all of them. Please consult the Ubuntu Wiki about Dual-boot installation and then start the installation. In two cases it went through the whole installation process smoothly. But I have got more than one year Ubuntu experience.
[19:27] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: actually i am trying to 'install' a theme that i saw on gnome-look
[19:27] <wols_> !root
[19:27] <RequinB4> !sudo
[19:27] <Andeh> wols_: I found that page. It says I can get it in Restricted Drivers Manager. I did that, and the thing told me there are no drivers needed, and yet it's not running at full resolution.
[19:27] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: but it sems that for this to work i must have a theme manager
[19:27] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Chris[1]: WHy bother with wine.. just install restricted formats
[19:28] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, yes, it reads it in alphanumerically and creates the apt.conf file on the fly
[19:28] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: also known as windows decorator...emerald. so i tried to install it
[19:28] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: got it?
[19:28] <wols_> Andeh: your reading skills are very very lacking. it does NOT say that. read again
[19:28] <Andeh> wols_: Apparently it's using a VESA driver. That aint good.
[19:29] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: cool. So I could make a script to run apt at low, medium and high speed dl's and just swap out the right file there huh?
[19:29] <Andeh> wols_: Thanks for the insult. It says it's old enough to be supported by default. So how do I get it to use a higher res than 1024x768?
[19:29] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, yes you could
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: no, still confused.. and I need to run.
[19:29] <timandtom_> New to linux... I just put Monty Python DVD in my DVD drive, and tried to open it in totem, but it says I dont have the required plugin... How do I get it?
[19:29] <nickrud> rodolfo, do you have any third party repos enabled?
[19:29] <Chris[1]> same thing lol
[19:30] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: would apt care if it found a file that was empty?
[19:30] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, I doubt it
[19:30] <wols_> Andeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[19:30] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: thats OK man we can get it solved later... ;)
[19:30] <Xnor> Last time I checked libdvdcss isn't in the repos, that's quite needed for DVDs
[19:30] <Hammer89> bullgard4: Alrighty... it sounds almost like smooth installations are the exception, and not the norm? ;)
[19:30] <GeorgeA> if I have 2 .ftpaccess files one in / and the other in /foo, the one in /foo is being ignored, how can I unignore it? (i'm using proftpd)
[19:30] <Chris[1]> say how do I install restricted formats?
[19:30] <rodolfo> nickrud, i do.
[19:30] <nickrud> !restricted | Chris[1]
[19:30] <ubotu> Chris[1]: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:30] <WinXpNewb> Hi, is there something special needed to transfer files between Linux and Xp? I tried changing the permission (by right clicking properties) and it says it cannot do that because the disk is read-only
[19:30]  * wols_ wishes he hadn't pasted the last url
[19:30] <Xnor> timandtom_: I /personally/ installed a deb for libdvdcss, because I searched aptitude and found nothing. probably less than supported
[19:30] <wols_> Andeh: and it's not my fault if you're an analphabet
[19:30] <nickrud> rodolfo, disable them, do    sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install emerald
[19:31] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: what man page it this info in?
[19:31] <Xnor> timandtom_: try sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2, though, and use something like VLC or Mplayer
[19:31] <bullgard4> Hammer89: I have not taken staticstics myself. My advise: Read the recommended article first. Then start. Trial and error is an appropriate method
[19:31] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, in apt.conf , and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz
[19:31] <Andeh> wols_: Please stop trying to insult me.
[19:32] <timandtom_> Xnor: Ok, i'll try that. is totem not very good, or is VLC just better?
[19:32] <Hammer89> bullgard4: Okay, thanks :)
[19:32] <Xnor> timandtom_: not sure. VLC can load libdvdcss at runtime, that's the only criterion here
[19:32] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: ty
[19:32] <Xnor> timandtom_: totem, will try that
[19:33] <nickrud> so will totem, but totem doesn't support dvd menus, a good enough reason for vlc itself
[19:33] <ogre> timandtom_,  vlc is the best
[19:33] <timandtom_> ogre: Ok. Whats so much better?
[19:33] <Xnor> and it's 30-40 more megs for me to download (totem is)
[19:34] <nickrud> !libdvdcss | timandtom_
[19:34] <ubotu> timandtom_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:34] <Xnor> btw, how does Ubuntu distribute Mozilla stuff without any renaming and test rebranding, and Debian doesn't get away with that?
[19:34] <ogre> timandtom_,  codecs,dvd menu,size, resources, not scrolling forward when you move a mouse over the video
[19:35] <nickrud> Xnor, I think it's because debian strips out a bunch of stuff from the normal firefox
[19:35] <niux_lab> how do i add a new group ?
[19:35] <vlt> Hello. I got two Ubuntu machines with usb web cam. What tool can I use for video conference/chat/call?
[19:36] <timandtom_> ogre: Ok, I'll try it =]
[19:36] <niux_lab> and how to add myself to it
[19:36] <nickrud> niux_lab, addgroup <groupname>
[19:36] <rodolfo> nickrud, the emerald contains non satisfied dependencies: libwnck18, which is a virtual package and libemeraldengine0, that depends on libwnck18. to get these dependencies solved it suggests to install emerald [0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy)] and libemeraldengine0 [0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy)]
[19:36] <Delvien> how do you tell if your processor is 64 bit?
[19:36] <Xnor> nickrud: it's ironic the Asus distro/modification of Xandros doesn't do the strippage stuff
[19:36] <nickrud> niux_lab, adduser <name> <group> (you need sudo for both commands)
[19:36] <vlt> Delvien: `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[19:36] <Ximal> http://pastebin.ca/832069 <<<< problems installing and compiling cube2 the 3d game ... i wanna play
[19:36] <niux_lab> nickrud, thanks
[19:36] <Delvien> vlt doesnt say anything about 32 or 64
[19:36] <rodolfo> nickrud, "pontuation is -9950" <- what's this?
[19:36] <vlt> Delvien: What does it say actually?
[19:36] <nickrud> Xnor, I'm just going on some stuff I vaguely remember reading, the details may be different
[19:37] <Xnor> nickrud: horribly tiny Intel running full on firefox and KDE
[19:37] <Xan_Fantasy> HardDiks/nickrud: I found the problem  it was Add item to panel > Notification Area
[19:37] <Delvien> vlt unless clflushsize  is the one
[19:37] <kye> How can i get 'firestarter' to auto startup without having to enter the root password?
[19:37] <wols_> Xan_Fantasy: you need SDL dev files
[19:37] <white_eagle> where is lame located?
[19:37] <Delvien> kye you cant
[19:37] <white_eagle> I've downloaded it
[19:37] <Xnor> nickrud: Asus Eee, that is
[19:37] <nickrud> rodolfo, you have some broken packages. Your mixed repos have causes some conflicts
[19:37] <Delvien> kye without it being unsecure
[19:37] <white_eagle> but I can't see it anywhere
[19:37] <Xan_Fantasy> wols, what are you talking about?
[19:37] <Delvien> kye iptables is the backend firewall, firestarter is just the GUI front end.
[19:37] <wols_> white_eagle: dpkg -L <packages>
[19:37] <wols_> Xan_Fantasy: nothing. I'm rambling
[19:37] <wols_> Ximal: you need the SDL dev package
[19:38] <kye> ok thanks, Delvien
[19:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, aptitude search ~b  will tell you which ones
[19:38] <wols_> Ximal: and next time use packages.ubuntu.com to search waht you need
[19:38] <Xnor> does anyone know how to set up a virtual CD using a thumb drive? the machine i'm trying to set up has none so I figured that would be the easiest path
[19:38] <white_eagle> wols_ I mean where in Ubuntu: where can I find it
[19:38] <Ximal> hmmwols ...
[19:38] <white_eagle> wols_ I've already dl-ed it
[19:38] <Ximal> wols i didn't know how to see what i needed ....
[19:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, that ~ is a tilde , if it's indeterminate on your screen
[19:38] <wols_> white_eagle: how did you download?
[19:38] <Xnor> I.e. have the USB thumb drive start a boot off of a CD
[19:38] <Ximal> how do i deduct next time what ineed /
[19:38] <Hammer89> bullgard4: did you use EasyBCD?
[19:38] <wols_> Ximal: "error" is a big hint
[19:39] <bullgard4> Hammer89: No.
[19:39] <Xnor> (which would just be an ISO inside the USB drive)
[19:39] <wols_> Ximal: shared/pch.h:31:17: error: SDL.h: No such file or directory
[19:39] <orduek> can anyone help me?after a few minutes playing urban terro or assaultcube it goes out of fullscreen and stop responding
[19:39] <Hammer89> bullgard4: would you recommend it?
[19:39] <bullgard4> Hammer89: No.
[19:39] <Hammer89> bullgard4: why not?
[19:39] <white_eagle> sudo apt-get install lame
[19:40] <rodolfo> nickrud, just a moment...
[19:40] <white_eagle> wols_ sudo apt-get install lame
[19:40] <wols_> white_eagle: dpkg -L <package>
[19:40] <Ximal> thanks wols..
[19:40] <white_eagle> K, thanks
[19:40] <Ximal> i wasn't thinking what to look at on reading the output
[19:40] <Ximal> thanks much
[19:40] <wols_> Ximal: first error btw. subsequent ones are usually caused by first
[19:41] <Ximal> tyvm
[19:41] <dirkg3nt1y> anyone heard of a command line audio editor?
[19:41] <crimsun> dirkg3nt1y: ecasound.
[19:42] <martianlobster> my new laptop has ubuntu  7.04,  feisty fawn,   is that the newest version?  I thought the new one was gutsy gibon
[19:42] <nickrud> martianlobster, you are right
[19:42] <martianlobster> k
[19:42] <dirkg3nt1y> thanks alot crimsun
[19:42] <asdzxc> hi
[19:42] <dirkg3nt1y> i'll give it go
[19:42] <martianlobster> :-/  grumble!!!! dang how can they ship an older os?   dang them
[19:43] <Ximal> is there some sortof all in one type of filed needed to compile stuff ?
[19:43] <Rufus_> i installed apache, the file is in /etc/apache3 - where do i put the docs that are in the server?
[19:43] <nickrud> Ximal, for the basics ,   install build-essential
[19:43] <Rufus_> like www or htdocs?
[19:43] <nickrud> Rufus_, /var/www
[19:43] <Rufus_> thanks
[19:43] <bullgard4> Hammer89: On the Laptops where I helped neophytes to install Ubuntu, there was Windows already installed. We did not touch Windows explicitely but started by insertting the Ubuntu CD.
[19:43] <RequinB4> martianlobster - when your laptop was designed/made (dell, right?) gutsy may not have been out
[19:43] <Ximal> i did that .... now i'm getting SDL image no file or dir.... and zlib no file or dir ....
[19:43] <Vad1> How can I check what kernel do I have?
[19:43] <Ximal> and now gzfile does not name a type
[19:44] <Pici> Ximal: you need the -dev packages for whatever its asking for
[19:44] <bullgard4> Vad1: uname -r
[19:44] <dirkg3nt1y> Vad1 - uname -r
[19:44] <Ximal> i know.. this is a new step i'm learning in an unfortunate hard way.. heh
[19:45] <martianlobster> RequinB4: yes it is a dell.   I just opened the box today.
[19:45] <Vad1> Hrm alright. And who can I go to ask why aren't drivers for my card not included, while the vendor has the linux ones on the website? (which I can't install due to lack of terchnical knowledge)
[19:45] <Ximal> so basically i haveto keep trying to compile and look for the errored sources that i need ? like the libs dev files etc /
[19:45] <martianlobster> RequinB4: I guess there is a time lag between the manufacturer and the latest version of the os
[19:45] <Ximal> ?
[19:45] <Hammer89> bullgard4: and you never had any bootloader issues? (I've heard horror stories about vista becoming inoperable after setting it up dual boot... I'm going nuts trying to figure out if those issues have been resolved)
[19:45] <nickrud> Vad1, what card?
[19:45] <Vad1> nickrud: belkin f5d7010, version 7. Realtek 8185 chipset.
[19:46] <RequinB4> martianlobster - if you were dell, would you take the time to upgrade all the comps in your storage bins?
[19:46] <Rufus_> i downloaded apache and php5 as a package, where is the root for that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php5&page=3
[19:46] <nickrud> Vad1, oh, that one. I have heard nothing but problems for that, and don't have an answer to your question either
[19:46] <martianlobster> RequinB4: dell site says they are made to order,  just in time manufacture,  but I guess not or maybe I didn't understand the site.
[19:46] <n00bie> are any of you experiencing problem with freedb in rubyripper? it doesn't fetch the track information here and so i have to type in the names of the tracks manually
[19:47] <RequinB4> !upgrade
[19:47] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:47] <martianlobster> RequinB4: which seemingly contradicts the made in Malaysia, label
[19:47] <Rufus_> i downloaded apache and php5 as a package, where is the root for that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php5&page=3
[19:47] <RequinB4> It's probably more of a design thing then when it was made
[19:47] <nickrud> Ximal, yes exactly
[19:47] <nickrud> Rufus_, what package? you mean apt-get ?
[19:47] <Ximal> yummy.... a compile migraine
[19:47] <wernergibbon> Hi all. I have a problem with installing the closed source ATI driver. This morning I have been given this link http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_7.12_Driver_Manually where I followed step by step Method 2
[19:47] <Fezzler> Why would this get an Invalid Operations > "sudo apt-get synce-kde synce-serial"
[19:47] <martianlobster> thank you for the upgrade link
[19:48] <sparr> I am having some trouble with package pinning.  I have added a new repository, from which I want to pull one and only one package.  That seemed to work, but now for some reason a different package is being pulled from that repository.  apt sources and preferences here: http://rafb.net/p/XgNDbx80.nln.html
[19:48] <bullgard4> Hammer89: I do not know what mistakes all the many people made. I did not analyze them. It is a good idea to have first installed windows and then install Ubuntu. Ubuntu will take due regard of an already existing Windows.
[19:49] <oxeimon> is there a utility that will tell you exactly where a given window is positioned?
[19:49] <oxeimon> ie, pixel coordinates?
[19:49] <bullgard4> Hammer89: The opposite is not true.
[19:49] <Fezzler> can I install a KDE app under GNOME?
[19:49] <nickrud> Hammer89, but doing the ntfs partition shrinking in windows makes sense, since the ntfs stuf for linux is reverse engineered
[19:49] <Ximal> is any type of reboot needed after installing ? because i'm still getting a bit of the sdl.h error .... it keeps hanging onthat /?
[19:49] <nickrud> Fezzler, yes
[19:49] <nickrud> Ximal, you simply haven't found the right package yet, try searching on packages.ubuntu.com , the second search group
[19:49] <bullgard4> Hammer89: What nickrud says here is very true.
[19:49] <Hammer89> nickrud: that's my plan... I'd also heard some of the old problems installing vista/ubuntu dual boot was related to different NTFS versions and the use of gparted
[19:50] <Fezzler> HMMM, then I wonder why apt-get synce-kde would be an invalid operation?
[19:50] <niux_lab> i need help with getting my Creative Zen to work with gusty
[19:50] <wernergibbon> the problem is: when I do the post-installation checks with fglrxinfo, I still get the Mesa entry, instead of  ATI. I removed all the packages provided by the xserver-xorg-video-all meta-package and restarted, but it still says Mesa. I can login though. I don't know if it's related, but when I login, I get a white screen. This screen disappears if I kill compiz.
[19:50] <Ximal> thanks nickrud ;)
[19:50] <nickrud> Hammer89, I am a living example of how gparted can screw up an ntfs partition
[19:50] <Hammer89> nickrud: wonderful :D
[19:50] <carlos__> !sis
[19:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:50] <Fezzler> packages no more?
[19:51] <wols_> wernergibbon: mesa is from mesa packages, not xserver- packages. dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[19:51] <carlos__> help, I have a SiS Real256E video and I want to make it work with 3D acceleration! How do I would do that?
[19:51] <Hammer89> nickrud: out of curiosity... what problems did using gparted cause you?
[19:51] <reallyneedshelp> could anyone help me figure out how to install libgpod3? i figure i need to add some repository to my sources.list or ... something?
[19:52] <n00bie> does anyone if there exists a rubyripper irc channel?
[19:52] <nickrud> Hammer89, it totally ruined my partition table, I had to use cfdisk to recreate it
[19:52] <n00bie> does anyone know if there exists a rubyripper irc channel?
[19:52] <Hammer89> nickrud: ah
[19:52] <wernergibbon> wols_: http://pastebin.com/d5bc29457
[19:53] <Torrential> I'm having some trouble setting up my grub booter on Ubuntu to be able to boot XP from my other secondary hard drive.
[19:53] <nickrud> Hammer89, I'm such a non windows guy that I didn't realize I could do it in windows ;(
[19:53] <|_James_Bond_|> HI PPL
[19:53] <Hammer89> nickrud: Lol. I hate windows... so that's not all bad
[19:53] <beererde> what is scrollkeeper-up ? it uses all my cpu
[19:54] <nickrud> beererde, it's scrollkeeper-update , it manages the gnome/ubuntu documentation, it should quit on it's own
[19:54] <beererde> nickrud: hmm ok. i just killed it :)
[19:54] <niux_lab> I cant "see" my USB in Virtualbox (the vers that supports usb), any1 know what to do?
[19:54] <Soskel> how many people a day come in here asking for a fast ubuntu mirror?
[19:55] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help to configurate this a webcam this brand: CANYON, this model: CN-WCAM21... need help...
[19:55] <rodolfo> nickrud: should i just deselect third party repositories and proceed typing 'sudo apt-get install emerald'?
[19:55] <nickrud> Soskel, a few. System-Admin-Software sources, the download from button, select other. then select best server
[19:55] <beererde> hi. is there a way to swap the mouse buttons in xorg?
[19:56] <grout> mclovin
[19:56] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help...
[19:56] <nickrud> rodolfo, yes. If all is well, it should install. If you have conflicting packages, it may take some surgery
[19:56] <Soskel> nickrud: I mean, like how many people come in here and ask "anyone know any fast ubuntu mirrors?11"
[19:56] <MrPiracy> could anyone tell me how to add channels to auto join in xchat?
[19:56] <Soskel> if a lot, then I will mirror again
[19:56] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help to configurate this a webcam this brand: CANYON, this model: CN-WCAM21... need help...
[19:56] <nickrud> Soskel, not that many
[19:56] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help
[19:56] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: no joy on the apt throtle. Lets see if I'm understanding a few things. update manager, aptitude, and synaptic all cal apt-get, so the file I created to throttle the dl should work with all of them, right?
[19:56] <alecwh_d> I just received a Microsoft LifeCam VX3000 webcam, and want to see if it is supported by Ubuntu, and how to get it working. I'm completely new to webcams and fairly new to ubuntu. Can someone assist me?
[19:57] <Soskel> nickrud: once a day, once a week?
[19:57] <beererde> alecwh_d: look in dmesg, then try xawtv
[19:57] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, it should, there are some switches that are app specific but I don't think that one is
[19:57] <nickrud> Soskel, a couple a week that I see
[19:57] <x3roconf> ANYONE KNOW ANY FAST UBUNTU MIRRORS?
[19:57] <nickrud> lol
[19:57] <alecwh_d> beererde: Uhm, I don't know how.
[19:57] <Soskel> heh
[19:57] <vishal> Im running 7.10 (gutsy), and thinking of installing initNG, should I?
[19:57] <Soskel> thank you nickrud
[19:58] <Johan-> anyone know if amd be-2350 works with cpufreq and if so, how can I configure it?
[19:58] <alecwh_d> should I plug it in beererde?
[19:58] <nickrud> !webcam | alecwh_d
[19:58] <beererde> alecwh_d: you enter dmesg?
[19:58] <ubotu> alecwh_d: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:58] <Drixx> hey ... need some help ...
[19:58] <toneman77> hi there
[19:58] <nickrud> alecwh_d, although that list might not be up to date ...
[19:58] <toneman77> is there an application that shows me what application uses how much traffic ?
[19:58] <alecwh_d> beererde: I'll do it now
[19:58] <miraage> Whenever I run mplayer or any other audio player on a music file, the process hangs inexplicably without any errors. I have a Chaintek card which worked fine!
[19:58] <Flannel> x3roconf: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[19:58] <beererde> alecwh_d: then, try xawtv
[19:59] <rodolfo> nickrud: so you mean to keep these TPRepos enabled is not a good idea..?
[19:59] <miraage> AAny ideas?
[19:59] <x3roconf> Flannel: :P
[19:59] <alecwh_d> beererde: I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. I just did 'dmesg' in the terminal, and got a lot of stuff. What am I looking for? My webcam is NOT plugged in right now.
[19:59] <beererde> alecwh_d: then there will be nothing to look for, plug it in?
[20:00] <Ximal> funny things u forget and over look ... 1) Ensure you have the SDL, SDL-image, SDL-mixer, and OpenGL libraries installed. <--- is in part of the build file i ran earlier and didn't see.. it was telling me the whole time which ones to install to compile/run the prog
[20:00] <Drixx> i'm in college .... n we have a linux server thru which we connect to the net ... we are restricted to open certain sites ... can u suggest some anonymity software ??
[20:00] <nickrud> rodolfo, I stick to the ubuntu ones, I like a stable system.  Generally when I want something (like dvdcss) I just pull in the deb , not the repo
[20:00] <alecwh_d> beererde: ok, sorry. ^_^
[20:00] <wols_> alecwh_d: plug it in and run dmesg again then
[20:00] <niux_lab> is it possible to get the new creative zen 4GB to work with Gnomad2 now?
[20:00] <Drixx> neone ??
[20:00] <wols_> Ximal: you need the dev packages of those. not just the libs
[20:00] <wols_> Drixx: tor
[20:01] <crush_groove> !tor
[20:01] <Drixx> wols_ : kk ... n from where to get it ??
[20:01] <ubotu> TOR is a project aiming to provide anonymous connections via specialized !proxies - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR for information and help - Note that TOR is blocked on most Ubuntu IRC channels, please see !hostmask and !tor-gpg
[20:01] <crush_groove> nodz
[20:01] <rodolfo> nickrud: even knowing that the repo-version is more supported than the .deb?
[20:01] <toneman77> how can i find out what application uses my internet traffic ?
[20:01] <Ximal> aye wols_... wutever i did .. it's compiling now it seems..
[20:02] <x3roconf> tor is very slow
[20:02] <Drixx> crush_groove : hi there ...
[20:02] <Ximal> when it doubt.. install all... crud ! it errored OUT again..
[20:02] <crush_groove> Drixx . hello
[20:02] <alecwh_d> beererde: Ok, I ran dmesg. What am I looking for? I just ran though, couldn't find any refrerence to 'webcam' or 'microsoft'
[20:02] <bullgard4> wols_: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/24602/ is a rather meager information to order a second RAM module from a salesperson. Is there a more verbose program than dmidecode that returns also clocking delay times for example?
[20:02] <wols_> bullgard4: what chipset do you have? what mobo? what cpu?
[20:03] <technel> I bought a 22" widescreen LCD (AL2216W). Ubuntu was stretched, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure on xorg. However, the refresh time is REALLY slow. I see a line come down the screen as it refreshes. Why? (PS: ATI video card, Windows works fine)
[20:03] <mahrellon> Evening everyone! I was wondering if it's possible to use Compiz Fusion on Gutsy Gibbon and be able to play World of Warcraft (through wine ofc) using the latest prop drivers from the repos? Anyone tested this? The ATI card is a 1900xt
[20:03] <beererde> alecwh_d: it should at least report that a new usb device was connected
[20:03] <chazco> hi.. when i have the graphic effects enabled in 7.10 my keyboard shortcuts to show the panel menu dont work... ideas?
[20:03] <wols_> technel: what drivers?
[20:03] <beererde> alecwh_d: does lsusb show anything?
[20:03] <Drixx> crush_groove: the site given by ubot gives the instruction to install tor for fiesty ...
[20:03] <nickrud> rodolfo, compatibility and consistency is generally more important than latest stuff for me. A lot of those outside repos don't have people knowledgeable enough to ensure that
[20:03] <technel> wols_: I am using default, I believe FGLRX -- that's ATI proprietary, isn't it?
[20:03] <Flannel> mahrellon: It is possible to do both of those things, however not at the same time, from my understanding.
[20:03] <wols_> technel: that is not default but yes proprietary
[20:03] <alecwh_d> beererde: once again, I'm not an expert, but I don't see anything. there are like 200 entries...
[20:04] <mahrellon> Flanell, so there might still be problems with ATI vs Direct Rendering? (Wich I think was the issue before)
[20:04] <wols_> mahrellon: thanks to xserver-xgl: no
[20:04] <nickrud> rodolfo, about the only one I trust currently is seveas's, but I don't use feisty and I think that he hasn't added any gutsy ones
[20:04] <chazco> Also, how can I create a deb for something that doesnt have a "make install" (or any source)... its some binarys etc which need to be placed in /opt and a script to assosiate icons/filetypes with the binaries
[20:04] <alecwh_d> beererde: yes. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:00f5 Microsoft Corp.
[20:04] <technel> wols_: So is there anything I can do?
[20:04] <wols_> mahrellon: not might. there are
[20:04] <Flannel> mahrellon: Or at least, if you do them both at the same time, you get crappy framerates.  No, its the fact that theyre both using openGL to do the rendering
[20:04] <beererde> alecwh_d: ok, then just try if xawtv finds it
[20:04] <wols_> technel: maybe disable compiz and sxserver-xgl
[20:04] <wols_> bullgard4: so?
[20:04] <crush_groove> Drixx I diod that command for my own information.. if it was me  I would use apt-get install tor
[20:04] <mahrellon> wols_, Ah! Thanks for clearing that up m8. I'll have to get an NV card for my m8 then hehe. =)
[20:04] <Flannel> mahrellon: not having anything to do with the card or any card, its just the way those are designed
[20:05] <mahrellon> Flanell, thanks man =)
[20:05] <alecwh_d> beererde: ok.
[20:05] <technel> wols_: Oh, they aren't working at all. I believe it auto turned off...
[20:05] <Tilllinux> ghamachi doesn't work anymore... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49542/
[20:05] <beererde> alecwh_d: but, since it's a microsoft product, you will be out of luck, when it's not using a standard chipset
[20:05] <alecwh_d> =(
[20:05] <doseryder> What partition utility do you guys suggest?  Man, gparted is taking ridiculously long.  Its a 1tb hd but still, I'm making a 900gb ntfs partition
[20:05] <Flannel> mahrellon: Some people turn off compiz while running games, others have a second X that they run for games
[20:05] <hasse> http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22plugin+was+compiled+against+libmyth%22&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=
[20:05] <bullgard4> wols_: i915, motherboard is in a laptop computer, CPU  Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz,
[20:05] <wols_> bullgard4: DDR or DDR2?
[20:05] <nickrud> doseryder, give yourself a day or so :)
[20:05] <mahrellon> Flannel, Oh? I'll have to look into having a 2:nd X then. Thanks for the tip. =)
[20:05] <alecwh_d> beererde: look at this: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[20:06] <chazco> doseryder - try just parted (command line)... i found it to be quicker, although not by much (and at 1TB it'll take a while)
[20:06] <alecwh_d> beererde: my camera is listed (control+f "vx3000")
[20:06] <bullgard4> wols_: How can I determine that?
[20:06] <wols_> bullgard4: dmidecode should tell you
[20:06] <nickrud> doseryder, I did a 50gb ntfs a few days ago, took over an hour
[20:06] <technel> wols_: Is there anything I can do? :\
[20:06] <beererde> alecwh_d: cool, then it should work
[20:06] <beererde> alecwh_d: start xawtv
[20:06] <wols_> technel: I just told you
[20:06] <Drixx> crush_groove: kk thnx ....
[20:06] <Ximal> doseryder , why such a large partitions ?
[20:06] <timandtom> Should I use Totem, or VLC? Someone suggested VLC because it works well with DVDs, but it won't play mine...
[20:07] <wols_> technel: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xgl
[20:07] <technel> wols_: Oh, I missed that
[20:07] <MrPiracy>  i'm having problems with compiz shift switcher ... windows disapear after 1 sec if reflecion is turned on ... anyone?
[20:07] <nickrud> timandtom, did you install libdvdcss ?
[20:07] <alecwh_d> beererde: Uhm, problem launching the app:
[20:07] <alecwh_d> beererde: http://pastebin.com/m48b32d8c
[20:07] <waremperor-> Hi all, i've tried to link my mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth connection. File sharing is working, but no connection by gammu is possible (device doen't exists...)
[20:07] <waremperor-> what can I do
[20:07] <timandtom> nickrud: How do I do that? And should I use VLC or Totem after I do?
[20:07] <doseryder> Ximal: y not?  Its for movies/music
[20:08] <technel> wols_: -> ii  xserver-xgl                                1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 -- Should I do an apt-get remove ?
[20:08] <Ximal> hmm. why not have 1 for movies 1 for music ? ;)
[20:08] <kakoonia> whois kakoonia
[20:08] <Flare183> !paste
[20:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:08] <nickrud> timandtom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-381bea41610683e5e26322fd7028e7aef85e3105 , and try both. I prefer vlc, but you do have a choice
[20:08] <alecwh_d> beererde: do you know what's wrong?
[20:08] <beererde> alecwh_d: one moment
[20:08] <timandtom> nickrud: Ok, thanks. So ones not loads better, its pretty much just a matter of opinion?
[20:08] <wols_> technel: so it's installed and runs on X startup
[20:08] <doseryder> mmm... i was hoping it'll be done before i head out tonight.  I guess not
[20:08] <kakoonia> how can i change file associations? like open mp3 with X open Txt files with Y bla bla... ?
[20:09] <technel> wols_: So I should uninstall it?
[20:09] <wols_> technel: yes
[20:09] <nickrud> timandtom, totem as installed won't handle dvd menus , vlc can. That was the decider for me
[20:09] <timandtom> kakoonia: Right click, then open with I think
[20:09] <Johan-> noone knows if amd be-2350 works with cpufreq and if so, how can I configure it?
[20:09] <GeorgeA> when i move VLC or any other movie player while a movie is running, the picture doesn't move until I stop moving the player's window, anyone knows why and how to fix it?
[20:09] <Tilllinux> doseryder: we used gparted to partition our school server (3TB into 7 partitions) ... worked quite well... but it'll take a lot of time, if you're moving a partition with data on it ...
[20:09] <kakoonia> timandtom: it changes for all file from the selected type? cause i already did that a few times..
[20:09] <technel> wols_: Restarting, BRB
[20:09] <timandtom> nickrud: But Totem should work with DVDs once I get the right plugin?
[20:10] <nickrud> kakoonia, right click, properties (at the bottom) , open with tab. That makes it permanent
[20:10] <timandtom> kakoonia: I thought it did... Thats what I was told before, never really tried much myself. Worth a try xP
[20:10] <nickrud> timandtom, yes it will play the dvd movie
[20:10] <kakoonia> nickrud: i did it.. its no working, not even for the same file i did it for..
[20:10] <kakoonia> not...
[20:11] <nickrud> kakoonia, did you make sure the radio button moved?
[20:11] <doseryder> Tilllinux: are they in raid configuration? (just curious)
[20:11] <bullgard4> wols_: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/24603/
[20:11] <kakoonia> radio?
[20:11] <MrPiracy> what's the keyboard layout for gutsy that will correspond to window's international english?
[20:11] <kakoonia> like a dot?
[20:11] <nickrud> kakoonia, little dot on the left :)
[20:11] <kakoonia> ok.. ill check that.. didnt notice it.
[20:11] <kakoonia> Thanks :)
[20:12] <Tilllinux> doseryder: yes, 6 time 500gb
[20:12] <Tilllinux> s
[20:12] <doseryder> Tilllinux: what level?
[20:12] <timandtom> nickrud: Ok. Do you know if one of the packages(good/bad/ugly/base) has the DVD plugin in it, or do I need to manually install it?
[20:12] <Tilllinux> um... 0 and 5?
[20:12] <doseryder> 1 mirroring?
[20:12] <Tilllinux> like.. .1 hd mirroring the others
[20:12] <doseryder> k
[20:12] <technel> wols_: So it looks fine now. Basically, no more XGL or Compiz-Fusion for me?
[20:12] <wols_> bullgard4: Type: DDR
[20:12] <wols_> bullgard4: buy a PC3200 SODIMM
[20:13] <Rufus_> i cannot write to /var/www/, how can i change that?
[20:13] <nickrud> timandtom, not off the top of my head, but you should install all of them anyway, for other media. Don't forget that medibuntu link I gave you
[20:13] <wols_> technel: if it solved it: sorry, yes. until ati gets their acto together, if ever
[20:13] <timandtom> nickrud: Ok, will do, thanks! =]
[20:13] <bullgard4> wols_: Thank you very much for advising.
[20:13] <Rufus_> i cannot write to /var/www/, how can i change that?
[20:13] <technel> wols_: :( ok, thanks.
[20:13] <x3roconf> are u root
[20:13] <x3roconf> ?
[20:13] <doseryder> Tilllinux: cool, perhaps you may be able to answer another question I have :>  Are you using an actual (real)raid controller?  Or a the raid feature offered by the mobo?
[20:13] <Rufus_> no
[20:14] <x3roconf> lol
[20:14] <miraage> Something's screwed with alsa. When I run mplayer -ao alsa myMp3File.mp3, it starts playback but just freezes (until I C-C out) at A:   0.0 (00.0) of 234.0 (03:54.0) ??,?%
[20:14] <beererde> alecwh_d: xawtv -nodga
[20:15] <Tilllinux> we bought a raid controller from... umm.. something with "3" in its name ;)
[20:15] <x3roconf> Rufus: you need root privileges to write /var/www
[20:15] <doseryder> Tilllinux: was wondering if you have used dmraid
[20:15] <Rufus_> how can i copy files via the terminal?
[20:15] <danzigrules> is there a way to set the screen resolution to the most basic of basic, other than f4? I am trying to install 7.10 and I have tried all the options under f4, but once it starts to boot up the screen acts like the resolution is to high.
[20:15] <x3roconf> Rfus: man chown
[20:15] <wols_> Rufus_: man cp
[20:16] <alecwh_d> beererde: still no luck. more errors. It seems like it's looking for /dev/video/ or something. http://pastebin.com/d64d1942d
[20:16] <Rufus_> wols_: what?
[20:16] <nickrud> danzigrules, you'll need to install from the alternate cd most likely. The live cd doesn't support all video cards equally well
[20:16] <x3roconf> RFTF*
[20:16] <x3roconf> or no
[20:16] <danzigrules> ok thanks
[20:16] <beererde> alecwh_d: it's not detecting your camera
[20:17] <Fezzler> Anyone use the Belkin Serial-to-USB cable F5U109 to any success?
[20:17] <alecwh_d> ok. what's the next step?
[20:17] <Fezzler> lsusb "see" it
[20:17] <Fezzler> or at least its driver
[20:17] <Rufus_> how can i copy files via the terminal?
[20:17] <reallyneedshelp> I'm trying to install the latest version of amarok, libgpod3, et all, and I can't figure out how to do so. Could anyone help me out?
[20:17] <x3roconf> Rufus:use cp
[20:17] <MrPiracy> Rufus_: try cp command
[20:17] <pvl1> hey thor, you here?
[20:17] <Rufus_> thanks
[20:18] <doseryder> Tilllinux: this is in a hs or college setting?  HS usually cheap with hardware lol
[20:18] <x3roconf> Rufus:type man cp
[20:18] <nickrud> Rufus_, to copy to the /var/www directory, you'll need to run it as    sudo cp
[20:18] <beererde> alecwh_d: did you install the driver you sent me before?
[20:18] <alecwh_d> beererde: no. >.<
[20:18] <qcode> Is there anything out there similar to rpcgen?
[20:18] <beererde> alecwh_d: then it can't work
[20:18] <nickrud> !terminal | Rufus_ there's a handy guide to useful terminal commands here
[20:18] <ubotu> Rufus_ there's a handy guide to useful terminal commands here: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:19] <alecwh_d> beererde: yeah. I'm *trying* to figure out how... I downloaded the driver and extracted to my desktop. What's next?
[20:19] <MrPiracy> i would like to have refresh rate back to 60 ... this mode is listed in xorg.conf, but it doesn't give me an option in the screen and graphics prefs
[20:19] <beererde> alecwh_d: there should be instructions in it. but ubuntu *should* have the driver already installed. what's your ubuntu version?
[20:20] <waremperor> Hi all, i've tried to link my mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth connection. File sharing is working, but no connection by gammu is possible (device doen't exists...)
[20:20] <beererde> MrPiracy: set it in "default mode" in xorg.conf
[20:20] <beererde> MrPiracy: and comment the other modes out
[20:20] <sparr> how can i pin packages to a certain release regardless of version number?  i don't want to get higher versions from less desirable releases
[20:20] <nickrud> qcode, rpcgen is in libc6-dev
[20:20] <alecwh_d> beererde: 7.10. I just compiled it, and following directions @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2580309&postcount=8
[20:20] <alecwh_d> Does that look accurate?
[20:21] <MrPiracy> beererde: in which section?
[20:21] <beererde> MrPiracy: maybe you need to add a modeline, google for modeline
[20:22] <MrPiracy> beererde: i have several modeline entries
[20:22] <nickrud> sparr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto has some stuff, with an example of version pinning
[20:22] <MrPiracy> beererde: and the refresh rate i want IS listed there
[20:22] <MrPiracy> beererde: modeline  "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
[20:22] <beererde> MrPiracy: try to commend out the ones you do not want
[20:22] <tom3> hey, I'm having some issues with the hda-intel/alsa with gutsy on inspiron 1520 ? i read there is a fix? but don't know how to get it
[20:22] <beererde> MrPiracy: hmm ok, sometimes these settings are overridden
[20:23] <reallyneedshelp> How about this: has anyone got a link describing how to get the latest batch of ipod nanos syncing in ubuntu?
[20:23] <wols_> MrPiracy: TFT or CRT?
[20:23] <JonaTh> I just compiled ALSA again (have soundprob. in Gutsy) but sudo alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[20:23] <beererde> alecwh_d: did you do the modprobe?
[20:23] <MrPiracy> beererde: i will try to comment it, will see what happens next time i start up
[20:23] <beererde> MrPiracy: yes
[20:23] <wols_> JonaTh: check if the driver is loaded
[20:23] <MrPiracy> wols_: what's TFT?
[20:23] <wols_> MrPiracy: LCD
[20:23] <pramz> merry christmas everyone
[20:23] <beererde> MrPiracy: a flat panel lcd
[20:23] <JonaTh> wols_: HowÐ
[20:23] <JonaTh> ?
[20:23] <sparr> nickrud: i dont want to pin specific versions, i want to pin the release, and not get ANY version from another release
[20:23] <MrPiracy> wols_: it is a LCD 19" philips
[20:23] <wols_> JonaTh: lsmod
[20:24] <nickrud> reallyneedshelp, http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/
[20:24] <wols_> MrPiracy: then refresh rate is irrelevant, there is only one rate it will work at and that rate only. no other
[20:24] <beererde> lcds work with multiple rates
[20:24] <reallyneedshelp> thanks, nickrud
[20:24] <beererde> but 60 hz is sufficient and will improve the signal quality
[20:25] <beererde> if it's analog
[20:25] <MrPiracy> wols_: well, i have made a few changes to my xorg.conf and now the refresh rate has changed ... the letters seem to be dancing
[20:25] <MrPiracy> wols_: lol or else i need some glasses
[20:25] <alecwh_d> beererde: right now, I've compiled the package with 'make' and then I made the 'webcam' directory in /lib/modules/.../webcam
[20:25] <beererde> alecwh_d: ok, you need to load the driver now
[20:25] <alecwh_d> beererde: yeah, now i"m looking for the file it generated or whatever
[20:25] <alecwh_d> beererde: where is it?
[20:25] <calm> If I install a package from a .deb file, can I later uninstall it using Synaptic? Thanks!
[20:25] <wols_> MrPiracy: did you change resolution?
[20:25] <beererde> alecwh_d: did the make show any errors?
[20:26] <Rufus_> how can i run a PHP script through the terminal?
[20:26] <x3roconf> php-cli
[20:26] <JonaTh> wols_: I guess I'm looking for 'snd'; it returns 'snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device'
[20:26] <MrPiracy> wols_: i had to, after applying the changes it switched the resolution to 800x600, then i just switched it back to 1200x1024
[20:26] <naturesss> help me ... deb soure  http for hardy  ...?
[20:26] <wols_> JonaTh: no chip driver there
[20:26] <JonaTh> ok...
[20:26] <x3roconf> !find php5-cli
[20:26] <ubotu> Found: php5-cli
[20:26] <alecwh_d> beererde: I'm not sure, I don't think so. http://pastebin.com/d258b2df3
[20:27] <wols_> MrPiracy: 1200x1024 doesn't exist as a res
[20:27] <MrPiracy> wols_: sorry, 1280x1024
[20:27] <nickrud> sparr, you would pin by origin, if the repo provides it. http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata has a reasonable discussion
[20:27] <wols_> MrPiracy: the oolder configs are still there. look back in them what you had
[20:27] <beererde> alecwh_d: /home/alecwh/Desktop/gspcav1-20071224/gspca.ko
[20:27] <naturesss> help me ... deb soure  http for hardy  ...?
[20:28] <Rufus_> i cannot find the php-cli
[20:28] <wols_> Rufus_: install it then?
[20:28] <Rufus_> in /etc/php5/, there are only two folders
[20:28] <beererde> alecwh_d: you are lucky, it worked. now copy that file to somewhere to your kernel module directories
[20:28] <Rufus_> apache2 and conf.d
[20:28] <GMoo> okay HardDisk
[20:28] <GMoo> you around brah?
[20:28] <alecwh_d> ok
[20:28] <calm> If I install a package from a .deb file, will I be able to uninstall it later using Synaptic?
[20:28] <MrPiracy> wols_: there are these two combo boxes ... one for res one for refresh rate ... 1280x1024 is listed there, but when applied, the other one will just let me pick 75hz
[20:28] <JonaTh> wols_: Where can I get this chip driver?
[20:29] <MasterShrek> calm, yes
[20:29] <MasterShrek> calm, dpkg -i package.deb
[20:29] <sparr> nickrud: theres no way to override version with a release pin?  :(
[20:29] <MasterShrek> (use sudo)
[20:29] <GMoo> hi everyone
[20:29] <calm> MasterShrek: Awesome. Thanks, just wanted to check.
[20:29] <GMoo> i'm tring to isntall synergy
[20:29] <alecwh_d> beererde: done.
[20:29] <Rufus_> where does php install to?
[20:29] <GMoo> !synergy
[20:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:29] <nickrud> sparr, doh, I reread your question, see that first wiki page I gave you, and "how to keep a mixed system" , that's how you specify a release
[20:30] <ClaudioG> hello
[20:30] <Tilllinux> doseryder: "gymnasium" that's like ... grammar-school  ;)
[20:30] <GMoo> !Synergy
[20:30] <sparr> nickrud: i have specified a release, but somehow im getting new versions from the wrong one
[20:30] <nickrud> sparr, APT::Default-Release
[20:30] <alecwh_d> beererde: xawtv still gives me errors launching though...
[20:30] <MasterShrek> sparr, do you have a backports repo enabled?
[20:30] <nickrud> sparr, you did that ?
[20:30] <beererde> alecwh_d: not load it with modprobe gspca
[20:31] <x3roconf> Rufus: sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[20:31] <beererde> alecwh_d: and see with dmesg if it is loaded and if it has errors
[20:31] <MrPiracy> how can i restore sabayon-admin account? i deleted it cos i didnt know who it was and now i cant open user profiles
[20:31] <alecwh_d> beererde: what's the command I should execute?
[20:31] <sparr> MasterShrek: yes
[20:31] <nickrud> sparr, and apt-cache policy should give you some clues about where your version is coming from
[20:31] <sparr> nickrud: yes
[20:31] <sparr> it does
[20:31] <sparr> http://rafb.net/p/XgNDbx80.html
[20:31] <Tilllinux> our co-headmaster (does that word exist?) is a physics-teacher, and he's going to buy a high-speed video-camera + a scanning electron microscope
[20:32] <sparr> its pulling a 500-priority package from debian instead of a 995-priority package from ubuntu
[20:32] <Rufus_> where is PHP-CLI located?
[20:32] <x3roconf> Rufus check /etc/php5
[20:32] <beererde> alecwh_d: ?
[20:32] <MasterShrek> sparr, those are packages that are techincally from a different release, "backported" to the one you are running, that may be where you are running into these issues...
[20:32] <beererde> alecwh_d: modprobe gspca?
[20:32] <x3roconf> type which php5-cli
[20:32] <sparr> MasterShrek: it is not.  thanks though
[20:32] <GMoo> ok guys
[20:32] <MasterShrek> ok
[20:32] <GMoo> i just installed synergy
[20:32] <GMoo> how do i access it
[20:32] <nickrud> sparr, what origin does the wine repo say it is?
[20:32] <GMoo> lol
[20:32] <|_James_Bond_|> hi
[20:33] <doseryder> Tilllinux: huh?
[20:33] <naturesss> deb default for ubuntu 8,.04 ?
[20:33] <MrPiracy> Tilllinux: scanning electron microscope? what is it for? to scan electrons as jpegs?
[20:33] <sparr> nickrud: not sure, how can i check?
[20:33] <MasterShrek> hello |_James_Bond_|
[20:33] <MasterShrek> GMoo, what does synergy do?
[20:33] <GMoo> lol at MrPiracy
[20:33] <Rufus_> x3roconf: there are two files: apache2 and conf.d
[20:33] <GMoo> !synergy
[20:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:33] <Rufus_> wheres cli
[20:33] <alecwh_d> beererde: ok, done! =D
[20:33]  * nickrud reaches waaay back, hasn't pinned in years
[20:33] <MasterShrek> !info synergy
[20:33] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 613 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[20:33] <GMoo> !Synergy
[20:33] <alecwh_d> beererde: next step?
[20:33]  * GMoo waves hands around wildy
[20:33] <GMoo> HELP
[20:33] <x3roconf> /usr/bin/php5
[20:33] <MasterShrek> interesting...never used it before GMoo...sorry
[20:34] <MrPiracy> Tilllinux: maybe he will be able to photoshop these electrons and make alquemy become true
[20:34] <MrPiracy> GMoo: lol
[20:34] <beererde> alecwh_d: dmesg and look for errors
[20:34] <GMoo> lol master_of_master, now i taugt you something - yo help me
[20:34] <Rufus_> there is no "bin" directory
[20:34] <GMoo> **lol MasterShrek, now i have taught you something - you help me
[20:34] <beererde> alecwh_d: it should say something like "driver blabla loaded"
[20:34] <wols_> GMoo: dpkg -L sysnergy |grep bin
[20:34] <|_James_Bond_|> Plz help to configure this a webcam...
[20:34] <GMoo> ty wols_isn't there like an icon i can click on?
[20:35] <|_James_Bond_|> brand.... is CANYON this model is CN-WCAM21
[20:35] <sparr> nickrud: what exactly should my APT::Default-Release be?  ive tried "o=Ubuntu", "gutsy", "7.10" to no avail
[20:35] <x3roconf> Rufus: after installing php cli type 'php' in terminal windows
[20:35] <|_James_Bond_|> need help to configurate...
[20:35] <alecwh_d> beererde: Just to make sure I don't miss it... http://pastebin.com/d2684c870
[20:35] <Rufus_> i cant find the cli
[20:35] <x3roconf> window*
[20:35] <alecwh_d> beererde: at the very bottom there is some video stuff
[20:35] <sparr> Rufus_: many men have that problem
[20:35] <x3roconf> Rufus:u should install it first
[20:36] <x3roconf> INSTALL IT lol
[20:36] <beererde> alecwh_d: looks good. now xawtv -nodga
[20:36] <pacoman> how do i get to the ubuntu spanih channel ???anyone??
[20:36] <x3roconf> use apt-get
[20:36] <beererde> !es
[20:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:36] <bluefoxx> merry xmas ubuntu
[20:36] <Yoques> pacoman:
[20:36] <nickrud> spacey, it's defined at the head of the Release file in /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:36] <Yoques> pon: /join #ubuntu-es
[20:37] <|_James_Bond_|> this a not work for AMSN
[20:37] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help
[20:37] <bluefoxx> /join#defocus
[20:38] <GMoo> dpkg -L synergy |grep bin
[20:38] <GMoo> that gives me usr/bin
[20:38] <GMoo> usr/bin/cynergyc
[20:38] <alecwh_d> beererde: blarg. I get the same errors as before. v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[20:38] <nickrud> sparr, if ubuntu is using the same as debian did, it would be the origin iirc
[20:38] <GMoo>  user/bin/synergys
[20:38] <GMoo> so how do i get to the program
[20:38] <boris> \join #ubuntu-fr
[20:38] <mouse>  /msg ubotu flash
[20:38] <beererde> alecwh_d: that's strange...
[20:38] <nickrud> sparr, but my memory is hazy on this, to tell the truth
[20:39] <alecwh_d> beererde: =P. I also installed "EasyCam" and it doesn't work.
[20:39] <sbdot> help! i finally got everything running in feisty (including atheros ar5007 driver), when I decided to take the last step and remove software I would not use (firefox, evolution, gaim) and install software i was used to (opera).  After using Synpatics Package Manager to do what I just mentioned, I rebooted and after logging in... blank beige screen with a mouse cursor. no desktop.  how do I recover?
[20:39] <sparr> nickrud: thanks for trying.  no offense, but this is why i usually ask my obscure apt questions in #debian, unfortunately they don't support their own software any more  :(
[20:39] <MrPiracy> how can I change the language of my keyboard? i need to use letters with accents and ć (with the accent down the C not on top of it)
[20:39] <beererde> alecwh_d: ah, it says "No supported image sensor detected for this bridge"
[20:39] <alecwh_d> beererde: oh. How do I fix this?
[20:39] <nickrud> sparr, sad but true. Gotta know what you want to know before you can ask about it anymore
[20:39] <__hase> I am trying to run Morrowind via Wine.  The launcher opens but when I try to play the game it says Render Creation Error:Unknown stencil mode format is that related to wine?
[20:39] <|_James_Bond_|> this a webcam is work for linux... this a not work from this a amsn
[20:40] <wols_> __hase: appdb.winehq.con
[20:40] <wols_> __hase: appdb.winehq.com
[20:40] <|_James_Bond_|> plz help...
[20:40] <GMoo> how do i run this
[20:40] <Slart> __hase: I don't recognize that error.. I've been playing morrowind using wine too.. have you checked the appdb?
[20:40] <beererde> alecwh_d: hmm, i think it should not happen, it means, your camera is not supported (the compression chip is, but no the sensor)
[20:40] <sbdot> i found this link (www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-broken-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html) but don't understand what he means by mounting feisty drive (the original install or the live cd?), among other things
[20:40] <GMoo> how do i run synergy it said i had installed it
[20:41] <wols_> sbdot: mounting your harddisk from the livecd
[20:41] <beererde> alecwh_d: i'll look again at the site you posted
[20:41] <alecwh_d> beererde: does that mean it won't work? =(
[20:41] <wols_> GMoo: I told you
[20:41] <GMoo> i installing synergy by typing in sudo apt-get install synergy ---- now how do i access it?
[20:41] <MrPiracy> GMoo: what does synergy do?
[20:41] <beererde> alecwh_d: it could mean it, it could also mean you did not download the complete driver. it depends now if there is a driver for the sensor
[20:41] <GMoo> i typed in dpkg -L synergy |grep bin
[20:41] <alecwh_d> uhm, ok. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2580309&postcount=8
[20:41] <GMoo> !Synergy
[20:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <__hase> I did check the appdb and it looked like two other people had the same error with no answer about fixing it
[20:41] <GMoo> !Synergy
[20:41] <GMoo> !Synergy
[20:42] <GMoo> !synergy
[20:42] <GMoo> wtf... the bot does know!
[20:42] <moteyalpha> !gzopen64
[20:42] <nickrud> GMoo, so that should have told you the command to run,
[20:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gzopen64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:42] <Slart> !botabuse
[20:42] <Slart> =)
[20:42] <wols_> GMoo: synergyc and synergys
[20:42]  * GMoo hits the bot
[20:42] <wols_> GMoo: and to learn more: /usr/share/doc/synergy
[20:42] <alecwh_d> !info synergy
[20:42] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 613 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[20:42] <UNDERsoN> Hi i have this http://pastebin.ca/832124 config for /etc/network/interfaces to change my mac adress automaticly. Why it is doesn't work?
[20:42] <alecwh_d> Like that GMoo.
[20:42] <wols_> GMoo: stop that and behave
[20:42] <GMoo> so i go dpkg -L Synergyc |grep bin
[20:42] <nickrud> that tells you what commands to run
[20:43] <GMoo> how do i get there
[20:43] <GMoo> how do i get there Nicke, to usr/share/doc/synergy
[20:43] <GMoo> i went cd /usr/share/doc/synergy
[20:43] <Slart> UNDERsoN: are you sure you can do that??
[20:43] <wols_> GMoo: then you are
[20:43] <nickrud> GMoo, that sounds right
[20:43] <GMoo> okay that worked
[20:43] <GMoo> hnow how do i open whatever i need to open
[20:43]  * nickrud thinks GMoo got burned by a typo :)  
[20:44] <moteyalpha> Does anyone have information on gutsy upgrade that breaks libxml2.so.2 gzopen64 ?
[20:44] <UNDERsoN> Slart what did you meen. I should do it every time when I boot manualy
[20:44] <sbdot> wols_ so I boot up with the install cd, go into a terminal and do a mkdir where? on the original installation drive, on a different partition? this is one of those things that assumes you are familiar with these technical details, which I am not
[20:44] <nickrud> GMoo, there will be docs there, you can read them with  less <filename>
[20:44] <GMoo> how do i view what files
[20:44] <GMoo> are in there
[20:44] <nickrud> GMoo, read up 2 lines
[20:44] <alecwh_d> beererde: do you think restarting my PC will fix the problem?
[20:45] <Rufus_> do i use "synaptic package manager" to compile source code?
[20:45] <wols_> GMoo: usr/share/doc/synergy/doc/index.html
[20:45] <Rufus_> or what do i use
[20:45] <Slart> UNDERsoN: nah.. I was just surprised that changing it was that easy.. I did some googling and it seems to agree with you
[20:45] <wols_> !compile > Rufus_
[20:45] <orionr> Does anyone know what the hot key is to zoom on the desktop?
[20:45] <beererde> alecwh_d: you need to install an OV7660 driver, as it seems
[20:45] <wols_> sbdot: nowhere. by default the livecd should mount your ubuntu partition on its own
[20:45] <sbdot> can someone help me understand this doc: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-broken-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[20:45] <beererde> alecwh_d: linux never needs restarting, excpet for kernel updates
[20:45] <Flare183> orionr: using compiz?
[20:45] <orionr> yes
[20:46] <GMoo> ty wols_
[20:46] <UNDERsoN> So any ideas why this string in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work?
[20:46] <Flare183> orionr: alt+scroll bar (on mouse)
[20:46] <alecwh_d> beererde: ok. Just a little used to windows.
[20:46] <alecwh_d> beererde: where is the driver?
[20:46] <GMoo> less index.html <--- no such file or directory
[20:46] <wols_> sbdot: it CLEARLY gives you the commands to run (provided this is actaulyl what's wrong)
[20:46] <Slart> UNDERsoN: look here.. some discussion about the subject
[20:46] <Slart> UNDERsoN: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535872
[20:46] <GMoo> btw, which is better: midiori or firefox
[20:46] <Slart> UNDERsoN: looks like you need some whitespace =)
[20:46] <Flare183> !best GMoo
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about best gmoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <beererde> alecwh_d: hmm it should be in ubuntu already...
[20:47] <Flare183> !best | GMoo
[20:47] <ubotu> GMoo: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[20:47] <orionr> Flare183: do i have to configure that because that isnt working i think it is super button+ something
[20:47] <GMoo> gah
[20:47] <Flare183> orionr: yeah maybe
[20:47] <GMoo> which uses less resources, midori or firefox ?
[20:47] <silent_> ze amd as explode
[20:47] <Nikolai> hey, guys. happy cristmas everyone :) I have a question about internet connection. i have changed my internet provider and got an USB ADSL MODEM ... so now i cant figure out how to connect to the internet on my Ubuntu. But i stilll have The CABLE MODEM in the corner of the wall. Is it usable to use it as ADSL MODEM, any way? Or do i have to buy an ADSL not USB modem? Or is it, maybe posaable to figure out how to set up this ADSL USB MODEM on Ubuntu? (i
[20:47] <Nikolai> have impression that thats the security reasons or something, todo with port scanning, that i cant find any drivers or so for that USB ADSL ML
[20:47] <Nikolai> MODEM)
[20:47] <Flare183> orionr: super = meta remember that
[20:47] <beererde> does someone know if the sensor driver needs to be loaded seperately from the chip driver for webcams?
[20:47] <GMoo> Nikolaichances are the drives aren't supported, hook it up via ethernet
[20:48] <sparr> is there a pin-priority i can assign such that matching packages wont ever be installed?
[20:48] <GMoo> Nikolai: hook it up to your router better yet
[20:48] <orionr> huh
[20:48] <sbdot> wols_ run them from where?  just throwing commands out there doesn't do much good.
[20:48] <Andeh> Question: When I boot up ubuntu on this laptop, it says loading kernel, starting up, and then, when the graphical boot loader bar should come in, it goes black. It boots up fine, but this emptiness is creepy. Can I get the graphical boot loader to work?
[20:48] <GMoo> okay wols_: i type in less index.html and it says no such file or directory.....
[20:48] <Nikolai> But my ADSL USB modem, have only USB way to connect to PC
[20:48] <UNDERsoN> They said that the problem is adding a tab??? :OMG:
[20:49] <silent_> Andeh: Graphical boot loader? you mean X?
[20:49] <evan__> !169.07
[20:49] <Andeh> silent_: I mean that horizontal, orange rectangle that gets bigger and bigger
[20:49] <evan__> !ubutu
[20:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 169.07 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubutu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <Hybid> Greetings. I'm trying to setup Ubuntu on a friend, but I can't configure his network since I know shit about wireless.
[20:49] <Flare183> !botabuse > evan__
[20:49] <silent_> Andeh, a loading bar?
[20:49] <Andeh> silent_: Yes, I said that.
[20:49] <evan__> !nvidia
[20:49] <Flare183> !wireless
[20:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:50] <Billy> I have 4gb of ram I don't need swap partition since ubuntu is using SWAP too much while running vmware & I want to delete the partition ........ can that be done ?
[20:50] <x3roconf> !ndiswrapper
[20:50] <Andeh> silent_: Apparently another guy with a laptop has the same problem. He asked here as well.
[20:50] <silent_> Andeh: it's probly outputting a graphical format your monitor can't display
[20:50] <Andeh> silent_: It shouldn't be, it worked fine in ubuntu 6.10
[20:51] <Flare183> !wireless Hybid
[20:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless hybid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <Flare183> crap
[20:51] <Mba7eth> hi all .... if can i run windows auto ran CD in ubuntu ?
[20:51] <Andeh> silent_: And from what I see on my desktop PC, where it does work, it hasn't changed much or at all.
[20:51] <Nikolai> ive tryed to put that telephone cable into my Touchstone Telephony Modem, and connect it to pc via Ethernet, but i dont get anything workin
[20:51] <Flare183> !wireless > Hybid
[20:51] <Andeh> silent_: It's not really a PROBLEM, it just sucks more than a black hole.
[20:51] <GMoo> i'm having some seriously problems over here
[20:51] <sbdot> i'm tellin ya,if I wasn't trying to put together a legit free box for a not-for-profit, i would certainly not be messing with ubuntu... took me hours to get the wireless driver to work. then i finally try to uninstall some software that would not be used and install some software that would be, and the system completely dies.  These are things that just don't happen in windows.
[20:52] <GMoo> how do i view files in a directory via the terminal
[20:52] <Andeh> !wireless > Andeh
[20:52] <Billy> is it safe to delete swap partition from ubuntu ?
[20:52] <GMoo> is there a place where i can get terminal commands
[20:52] <Nikolai> it dont look like i can use Telephony modem as ADSL modem
[20:52] <niux_lab> how do i check a groups id?
[20:52] <silent_> Andeh: I wouldn't worry about it that much... it isn't a crucial feature
[20:52] <niux_lab> number
[20:52] <Flare183> kon
[20:52]  * Flare183 says sorry
[20:52] <Mba7eth> hi all .... if can i run windows auto ran CDs in ubuntu ?
[20:52] <silent_> Andeh: you can always hit alt+f1-f4 to check what's happening if it hangs too long
[20:52] <silent_> the loading bar really serves no purpose
[20:52] <Andeh> silent: alt+f1?
[20:52] <avis> sbdot, you must be kidding.  you must have incompatible hardware because those things are simple and easily done in ubuntu while being stable
[20:53] <x3roconf> cat /etc/group
[20:53] <GMoo> HELOOOOOOOOOOOO
[20:53] <Flare183> GMoo: help
[20:53] <naturesss> why ubuntu-804  no update ?
[20:53] <Andeh> silent_: Is it possible to make it use a text boot by default, but still load GDM?
[20:53] <alecwh_d> beererde: I've got to get going right now. =(. What do you recommend I do later?
[20:53] <Andeh> silent_: I am pretty sure you can edit grub to make it do that
[20:53] <sbdot> avis have you ever done a search for atheros ar5007 on ubuntu?  simple my arse.
[20:53] <alecwh_d> Post in the ubuntu forums maybe?
[20:53] <Hybid> Flare183 Andeh Yeah, still I don't know what the password type is.
[20:53] <x3roconf> edit grub  files in /boot
[20:53] <silent_> Andeh: sure, use the nosplash option
[20:53] <GMoo> how do i view files in the directory via the terminal / how do i open hese files.
[20:53] <GMoo> how do i view files in the directory via the terminal / how do i open hese files.
[20:53] <Tilllinux> Andeh: yes it is
[20:53] <D0C_> hi all
[20:53] <Nikolai> can i get some help about setting up an adsl usb modem on Ubuntu?  (btw ive tryed adslusbmodem, or kinda like that named pakkage, but it doesnt helped)
[20:54] <Tilllinux> GMoo: type "ls"
[20:54] <Andeh> okay
[20:54] <GMoo> THANK YOU
[20:54] <beererde> alecwh_d: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html on this site, there are both drivers listed for your cam, try to install them
[20:54] <avis> sbdot, well, there are problems with some hardware yes thats why its to your advantage to buy hardware that is compatible.  i have atheros chipset wireless and it works out of the box with gutsy.  your mileage will vary because of what hardware you have
[20:54] <silent_> Andeh, I believe the recovery entry has the nosplash option, just copy the syntax from there
[20:54] <Flare183> !caps | GMoo
[20:54] <ubotu> GMoo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:54] <alecwh_d> ok, thanks.
[20:54] <Andeh> silent_: Ah, great, thanks!
[20:54] <GMoo> okay Tilllinux i want to open readme
[20:54] <beererde> alecwh_d: sn9c105r and the OV thing
[20:54] <GMoo> how do i do that now once
[20:55] <D0C_> anyone have an issue with UnrealTournament crashing when you attempt to join a game ?
[20:55] <sbdot> i ended up having to edit the routing table.  do you know anyone who ever had to do that to get a driver in windows to work?  all of the people who say that these linux distros are easier than windows to install are just talking crap.
[20:55] <alecwh_d> beererde: will do. happy holidays, and thanks very much!
[20:55] <Tilllinux> GMoo: i dont know ;D
[20:55] <beererde> alecwh_d: then, dmesg should report a /dev/video or something device, which you need to tell to xawtv
[20:55] <GMoo> lol Tilllinux
[20:55] <beererde> alecwh_d: np, bye
[20:55] <GMoo> anyone?
[20:55] <Pici> !cli | GMoo
[20:55] <ubotu> GMoo: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:55] <GMoo> ty
[20:55] <GMoo> i'm in the terman okay okay
[20:55] <silent_> Andeh: np.. just checked my menu.lst, you simply remove the 'spash'
[20:56] <Nikolai> looks like nobody is able to help me with that, and ive got to go back googlin' -.-
[20:56] <Andeh> silent_: I noticed too. Thanks though :)
[20:56] <silent_> np
[20:56] <avis> sbdot, you wont have much support here if your going to argue windows vs linux.  we are ubuntu people and happy to be so, and for most of us with compatible hardware, we do just fine
[20:56] <forsaken> anyone know where a good tutorial is on how to start a project on launchpad? (I'm trying to start one and give it my ssh keys and other stuff)
[20:56] <Andeh> silent_: What happens if I remove "quiet"?
[20:56] <Flare183> forsaken: ask in #launchpad
[20:56] <sbdot> every year around christmas time I try to install the latest popular distro on a different machine, thinking 'ok, this year i finally give up windows'.  then there's a problem with take your pic: sound driver, ethernet/wireless driver, video driver
[20:57] <silent_> Andeh: I'm not sure, I assume it would either use the pcspkr module to output sound... or would output more activity logs for debugging purposes
[20:57] <Tilllinux> Andeh: quiet will remove the splash image and show you the text behind that, or something like that
[20:57] <silent_> there are a couple meanings for 'quiet'
[20:57] <Myrtti> please keepthe os/distro wars someplacw else
[20:57] <Pici> forsaken: Try #launchpad
[20:57] <D0C_> ive got the nvidia driver installed (properly) and it works fine, UT launches fine and I can change the prefs and player settings etc... ive got an error thats only 4 or 5 lines i can paste
[20:57] <Andeh> Tilllinux: Heh, not much of a splash to remove :P#
[20:58] <sparr> sbdot: sounds like you buy crap hardware.  but, on another note, i had a sorta similar system years ago.  linux finaly met my expectations
[20:58] <silent_> linux loves crap hardware
[20:58] <Pici> !offtopic | sparr sbdot
[20:58] <ubotu> sparr sbdot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:58] <avis> sbdot, you must not research what to buy because many different things dont require additional configuration.  i've installed linux on 3 different computers, one of them had a wifi problem too, luckily the fixes were on ubuntuforums.org, they are all great stable machines.
[20:58] <sbdot> i end up wasting hours (sometimes days if i have a fair bit of time off) and then inevitably give up and go back to xp.  this thing about having compatible hardware is ridiculous.  the acer machine I'm installing on is one of the most widely sold low-end laptops of the last year
[20:58] <GMoo> how do i open up the readme file
[20:58] <GMoo> via terminal
[20:58] <silent_> gedit or nano
[20:58] <Pici> GMoo: less filename
[20:58] <Tilllinux> I'm just looking for a way to use the penPressure of the intuos3 tablet with wine... if that works, I'll not be going to use windows anymore (except some games for lan parties ; )
[20:58] <x3roconf> use vi
[20:58] <sparr> Pici: if #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter, why would it not just be called #offtopic?
[20:58] <x3roconf> or emacs
[20:59] <GMoo> lol okay okay
[20:59] <Pici> sparr: Because its our offtopic channel
[20:59] <sparr> Tilllinux: try #winehq ?
[20:59] <GMoo> thank you pici
[20:59] <sam__> can someone help me dualboot with xp
[20:59] <Andeh> silent_: Thanks :)
[20:59] <silent_> yup
[20:59] <GeorgeA> when dragging the vlc window, the video doesn't move with it... how do i fix it?
[20:59] <D0C_> sam what ya got ?
[20:59] <sam__> right now i just have ubuntu
[20:59] <Tilllinux> sparr: yes, I'm on that channel ;)
[20:59] <mgtd> Hallo, ist hier auch jemand aus Deutschland?
[20:59] <sam__> but i want to add xp with it
[20:59] <Pici> !de | mgtd
[20:59] <ubotu> mgtd: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:00] <wols_> sbdot: from a terminal
[21:00] <Tilllinux> mgtd, ja :p
[21:00] <D0C_> its alot easier if you do xp 1st then add linux
[21:00] <sam__> doc_: i originaly had vista but erased it by accident while installing linux
[21:00] <GMoo> how do i open up index.html with firefox
[21:00] <cassiopea> Hey. I'm trying to make a copy of the kubuntu 7.10 CD (which I got through shipit) for a friend, but I can't seem to be able to get it copied with k3b. I also tried making a copy of the cd with mkisofs, but when I wrote it again, it wouldn't boot. How can I copy this CD?
[21:00] <GMoo> instead of terminal
[21:00] <GMoo> how do i open up index.html with firefox instead of terminal....
[21:00] <D0C_> windows bootloader is a pain in the rump
[21:00] <sbdot> if that isn't supported. well, anyhow, that should pretty much tell you why linux only accounts for about one percent of desktop installations. i hope IBM comes out with this mythical blue linux and standardises things, otherwise that one percent is the most there will ever be
[21:00] <sam__> doc_: yea right now i have linux only though, i have an xp cd
[21:00] <Khisanth> cassiopea: are you sure it's not a DVD? :)
[21:00] <Pici> GMoo: just browse to that directory with firefox's open>file
[21:00] <avis> sam__ its really easy to dual boot as long as you have enough partition space for swap / and /home at the end of your drive and you install ubuntu after installing xp.  its pretty automatic.  grub handles the selection of os
[21:00] <D0C_> free space on your hdd ?
[21:00] <GMoo> lol ok pici
[21:00] <Soskel> omg omg omg http://webtechmedia.net/wallace_type.mov
[21:01] <sam__> avis: yea i have enough space but i dont know how to do it
[21:01] <Pici> Soskel: Dont do that, this is a support channel.
[21:01] <sam__> avis: i erased windows last time by mistake and im scared ill erase linux this time
[21:01] <Hybid> Is there a way to check what kind of password type my wireless connection is using through a Windows box (in which the connection works alright)?
[21:01] <sparr> sbdot: hardware support has nothing to do with what kind of linux you run.  IBM can't change that.  its purely a matter of which hardware companies want their hardware to work in linux
[21:01] <sbdot> end of annual linux rant before switching back to xp
[21:01] <Pici> Hybid: Ask in ##windows
[21:01] <Glich> Hi, I have a yamaha keyboard which can connect via usb. Is there any software to record this imput? Like Sibelius but on ubuntu.
[21:01] <D0C_> sam would it be the end of the world if you had to reinstall ubuntu ?
[21:01] <avis> sam__, you need help with partitions or are you scared to complete the installation ?  its pretty automatic just dont overwrite your windows partions then install linux partitions at the end of drive and go through the installation
[21:01] <sbdot> last year it was in a fedora forum
[21:02] <sparr> if hardware works in "blue linux" then its going to work in gentoo and ubuntu and fedora too
[21:02] <eythian> Hi, I have evms or device mapper giving me problems, but evms isn't installed. I still have /dev/evms/... though, and it's interfering with my regular devices. How can I stop it loading?
[21:02] <Pici> sbdot: This is still offtopic.
[21:02] <sam__> doc_: it was very complicated for me to get ubuntu to work correctly and i would hate to have to do that again
[21:02] <Tilllinux> Glich: enough ;9 e.g. Rosegarden
[21:02] <mgtd> Oh, Danke ubotu /Thanks ubotu
[21:02] <sam__> avis: i need help with partitions
[21:02] <sbdot> and the problem last year was alsa drivers with fedora and a very popular sound card not working
[21:02] <Tilllinux> I'm using noteworthycomposer with wine, it still has got the easiest way of writing notes
[21:02] <D0C_> strange... what hardware do you have ?
[21:02] <sam__> avis: just lead me through it and ill be happy
[21:02] <D0C_> ill hush then  :)
[21:02] <dredhammer> high i just fired up a comercial dvd  movie disc in ubuntu using totem-gstreamer and all that comes out is the dvd audio and no video all the gstreamer plugins are installed as well as libdvdcss2
[21:02] <Glich> Rosegarden?
[21:02] <snow_> hmm
[21:03] <Glich> I will look it up
[21:03] <sbdot> can't wait to see what the popular distro next christmas will be and what will inevitably lead me to dump it and go back to xp
[21:03] <avis> sam__, how about double your memory in swap lets say you have 2GB then 4 GB swap, a / partition of 15 gigs, and the rest on /home
[21:03] <shade052> is there any good GUI which tells about the network bandwidth that systems on the local area network are using
[21:03] <Flare183> !offtopic > sbdot
[21:03] <D0C_> anyone here an xorg guru?
[21:03] <vasilisa> Is it safe to format an UNMOUNTED partition on a busy device?
[21:03] <sam__> avis: um sorry don't understand
[21:03] <Glich> thanks!
[21:03] <Tilllinux> vasilisa: lazy? ;)
[21:03] <Slart> shade052: systems as in all other computers ? or you're just interested in your own computers network usage?
[21:03] <sbdot> vasilisa - if you're asking if something is safe in linux, it probably isn't
[21:03] <tree> hello everybody, i'm having the same desktop blanking i've had. nothing but the mouse and the background seem to work for me in gutsy. i can't seem to track down the problem.
[21:03] <sam__> avis: btw would i be able to reach files on linux such as mp3s when im on my xp partition?
[21:03] <wols_> sam__: yes
[21:04] <GMoo> i'm at user@user-desktop:
[21:04] <GMoo> how do i get to /user/
[21:04] <wols_> vasilisa: yes
[21:04] <GMoo> errr
[21:04] <vasilisa> Tilllinux: yeah, note xcited about having to use a live cd
[21:04] <GMoo>  i mean /usr/
[21:04] <Tilllinux> Glich: if you're interesting in sound-editing, you might want to have a look at UbuntuStudio or JackLab / JAD
[21:04] <GMoo> i did cd /usr/ and it didnt do it
[21:04] <Flare183> !enter
[21:04] <shade052> Slart:other computer on the LAN
[21:04] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:04] <sbdot> anyhow, off to reformat and go back to xp, per the annual tradition
[21:04] <cassiopea> Khisanth: Well, it's 696MB, so it would make no sense to put it on a DVD - none that I can see at least
[21:04] <GMoo> nm lol
[21:04] <D0C_> sam there is a tool for xp that allows you to read ext partitions
[21:04] <vasilisa> sbdot: QTParted says make sure the device you're trying to format isn't busy.
[21:04] <beererde> sbdot: next year, vista will be so widespread, taht xp  will be no use anyway.
[21:04] <vasilisa> wols_: Okay, i fiured it would be
[21:04] <avis> sam__, i choose manual partition.  the guided partitioning has freaked me out.  so 4000 for swap and 10000 for / and the rest on the last partition of /home the rest of the install is pretty self explanatory.  also you can accecss ntfs partitions through ntfs-3g
[21:04] <Glich> Tilllinux: thanks, I just want to record keyboard imput
[21:05] <beererde> sbdot: and i wish you much joy with vista :)
[21:05]  * vasilisa twitches
[21:05] <Slart> shade052: I would look into some kind of snmp solution.. there are several application for gathering the info and presenting it .. cacti is one.. there are several others
[21:05] <sbdot> ubuntu feisty was fun for a couple of days, but I seriously need to use this machine for stuff other than goofing around with hardware installation
[21:05] <sam__> avis: im sorry im a complete noob at this sort of thing, i dont know what any of that means..
[21:05] <Tilllinux> sbdot: for example?
[21:05] <D0C_> sbdot, join #windows_lamers hehehe
[21:05] <phrantik> Can anyone help me get my internal dvd drive that just put in working
[21:05] <sam__> avis: isn't there just some program or some way to do it simply?
[21:05] <sbdot> seriously: atheros wireless chips on laptops. look into it
[21:06] <Rufus_> the computer says i have PHP5 installed, but i cant find the CLI, someone help me?
[21:06] <vasilisa> I get x10 times more done on linux than in windows
[21:06] <sbdot> they're on almost every second low-end laptop these days
[21:06] <beererde> sbdot: in vista, you need to goof around with virus scanner, firewall, and tons of shitty overloaded programs just to configure your wlan
[21:06] <Tilllinux> sam__ yes it is
[21:06] <vasilisa> and i have used both extensively
[21:06] <th_> Rufus_: install php5-cli
[21:06] <Tilllinux> i mean
[21:06] <Rufus_> th_
[21:06] <Tilllinux> there is a driver called "ext2ifs"
[21:06] <Rufus_> where?
[21:06] <Tilllinux> ext2fs
[21:06] <beererde> sbdot: i'm using atheros right now
[21:06] <Rufus_> wait, ill look
[21:06] <sam__> tilllinux: what does it do?
[21:06] <th_> .. sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[21:06] <D0C_> bbl
[21:06] <Flare183> sam_: it lets you browse ext2/ext3 partitions from windows
[21:06] <avis> sam__ i'm sorry i dont know what else to say.  no sam__ you have to set it up yourself.  maybe guided partitioning will work for you, maybe someone else can comment on that as i dont know about it.  there are other steps to the installation though they are pretty simple
[21:07] <sbdot> beererde have you even used vista, or is that just something you read on some lame linux propaganda site? you pop the CD in and that's it
[21:07] <Tilllinux> sam__: it provides a filesystem driver for windows, allowing windows to read/write ext2/ext3
[21:07] <Hagg1> Where do I get this USplash? Is this the official USplash for Ubuntu 7.10-server, or is ot a custom? Do anyone of you know where to get it? http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/images/r_demo/u-02-usplash.png
[21:07] <vasilisa> Not true sbdot
[21:07] <sbdot> anyhow, it's been a hoot
[21:07] <Christina18> Hi, why is it that in aMSN, I ALWAYS appear offline for all others, regardless of what status I have set to ?
[21:07] <shade052> Slart:does traceroute by any chance give enough info to figure this out?
[21:07] <Christina18> Does anyone here know aMSN ?
[21:07] <vasilisa> ive had to reinstall it like 3 times
[21:07] <sbdot> buh-bye
[21:07] <sam__> tilllinux: so i just install this program, which lets me install xp on a separate partition?
[21:07] <beererde> sbdot: i work in support and am forced to help dumb users with their vista pcs, nothing works..
[21:07] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search usplash
[21:07] <vasilisa> Gutsy gibbn i just pluggedin, installed, and ran
[21:07] <sbdot> back to xp. the os that works
[21:07] <nickrud> !ot | sbdot beererde
[21:07] <ubotu> sbdot beererde: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:07] <Christina18> Does anyone here know aMSN ?
[21:07] <jetscreamer> or just apt-get install it
[21:07] <Christina18> Does anyone here know aMSN ?
[21:07] <Christina18> Hi, why is it that in aMSN, I ALWAYS appear offline for all others, regardless of what status I have set to ?
[21:07] <Tilllinux> sam__: what? no! i thought you already have got an existing windows installation?
[21:07] <jetscreamer> i met him once, christel
[21:08] <Flare183> !repeat > Christina18
[21:08] <Rufus_> where can I find the PHP CLI?
[21:08] <sam__> tilllinux: no i erased it installing linux by accident..
[21:08] <th_> Rufus_: apt-get install php5-cli
[21:08] <Slart> shade052: traceroute only gives you ip's and ping times afaik.. you can't tell anything about network usage from that, afaik
[21:08] <x3roconf> Rufus:use terminal
[21:08] <th_> .. still
[21:08] <rodolfo> nickrud: what should i look for to get CCSM installed on ubunt gutsy?
[21:08] <vasilisa> tisk tisk sam
[21:08] <Pici> !ccsm | rodolfo
[21:08] <jetscreamer> !info ntop
[21:08] <ubotu> rodolfo: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:08] <ubotu> ntop: display network usage in top-like format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.2-10.1 (gutsy), package size 2707 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[21:08] <nickrud> rodolfo, compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:08] <sam__> tilllinux: so right now im trying to install xp  but keep linux
[21:08] <x3roconf> !terminal > Rufus
[21:08] <vasilisa> sam_ thats easy
[21:08] <Tilllinux> I never tried that, because I don't want to reinstall grub :p
[21:08] <sam__> vasilisa: i hope it is..
[21:08]  * J-_ just took a bunch of sweet pictures =D
[21:09] <jetscreamer> sam__: just make a grub-floppy first, or cd or stick.. windows will overwrite grub
[21:09] <vasilisa> sam__ You will have to reinstall grub
[21:09] <Glich> bye!
[21:09] <shade052> Slart:sorry i meant tcpdump
[21:09] <Slart> shade052: I think you'll have to get that info either from a switch, if all traffic passes through that switch, or by asking all the computers directly
[21:09] <vasilisa> grub's easy to rienstall
[21:09] <sam__> vasilisa: i dont even know what grub is
[21:09] <jetscreamer> bootloader
[21:09] <tree> what causes a blank desktop in gutsy
[21:09] <J-_> oh crap, this isn't #ubuntu-offtopic lmao whoops.
[21:09] <jetscreamer> !info grub
[21:09] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 366 kB, installed size 808 kB
[21:09] <vasilisa> sam__: Grub is what lets you choose whether to boot from windows or from linux
[21:09] <Ttech> Hi,  when I start (or try to start) Konsole I get this error: "Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices."
[21:09] <Ttech> Whats it mean?
[21:09] <Flare183> !recoveringgrub | sam_
[21:09] <vasilisa> sam__: Windows of course made their default bootloader ONLY load windows.
[21:09] <sam__> vasilisa: would i lose all the programs, files that i have right now on linux?
[21:09] <jetscreamer> !tell lukewarm -about root
[21:09] <Slart> shade052: I think tcpdump only sees traffic coming to your machine
[21:10] <vasilisa> sam__: Not if you install to a different partition
[21:10] <ubotu> sam_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:10] <jetscreamer> oh yeah duhbot
[21:10] <x3roconf> u can start linux with windows boot loader too
[21:10] <sam__> vasilisa: yea thats exactly what i want to do!
[21:10] <tree> how do i stop bcm43xx errors
[21:10] <Hagg1> Where do I get this USplash? Is this the official USplash for Ubuntu 7.10-server, or is ot a custom? Do anyone of you know where to get it? http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/images/r_demo/u-02-usplash.png
[21:10] <shade052> Slart: Well, its a switch. but how do you talk to a switch
[21:10] <vasilisa> sam__: In that case, no, it's only going to focus on that partition
[21:10] <sam__> vasilisa: what do you mean? which partition?
[21:10] <shade052> Slart:tahat is how do you get the info from switch
[21:10] <Flare183> !repeat | Hagg1
[21:10] <ubotu> Hagg1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:10] <jetscreamer> Hagg1: install it
[21:10] <Slart> shade052: perhaps it talks snmp? is it a big impressive switch you payed lots of money for? =) if that is the case it probably does
[21:11] <vasilisa> sam__: But it does make a new bootloader that only loads up windows, so once you're done, you will run a livecd for restoring grub. They're everywher.e
[21:11] <jetscreamer> Hagg1: i said apt-cache search usplash
[21:11] <rodolfo> nickrud: it says here its already installed but the CCSM window does not show up...
[21:11] <jetscreamer> Hagg1: maybe multiverse
[21:11] <vasilisa> sam__: Windows and Linux need to be on different partitions.
[21:11] <rodolfo> nickrud: is there something missing?
[21:11] <Pici> !usplash | Hagg1
[21:11] <ubotu> Hagg1: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[21:11] <sam__> vasilisa: thats the only part i know...although i dont know how to do it
[21:11] <nickrud> rodolfo, you probably still have issues with your repo conflicts, try ccsm on a command line
[21:11] <vasilisa> sam__: Windows is only going to act upon the partition its installing to.
[21:11] <x-X-x> i cant get ubuntu to recognize that my screen supports 60hz
[21:11] <x-X-x> i only get up to 50hz
[21:11] <nickrud> rodolfo, get any errors?
[21:11] <vasilisa> sam__: Even windows' horrible installation program is pretty good at showing you the partitions you can choose from
[21:11] <Slart> shade052: what's the purpose of this? limiting bandwidth at the office? keeping your kids in line at home? =)
[21:12] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes
[21:12] <sam__> vasilisa: ok can you put me through the steps to do this?
[21:12] <Flare183> !installing
[21:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[21:12] <nickrud> rodolfo, but no window, put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:12] <Flare183> sam_: use that
[21:12] <rodolfo> nickrud: "AttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized'"
[21:12] <vasilisa> sam__:You have ubuntu installed on one partition, right?
[21:12] <rodolfo> nickrud: ok hold on
[21:12] <sam__> flare183: thats for installing ubuntu when i have windows though, i need it the other way around
[21:12] <sam__> vasilisa: yep
[21:12] <vasilisa> sam__: And you have another one which has no important data?
[21:13] <sam__> vasilisa: i have only linux, i dont have any other partition that i know of
[21:13] <Rufus_> /etc/php5/cli - theres conf.d and php.ini, how can i launch the cli?
[21:13] <vasilisa> sam__: Uh oh.
[21:13] <Flare183> sam_: just install windows but tell windows to use only so much space
[21:13] <sam__> flare183: how do i do that?
[21:13] <x3roconf> RUFUS: USE TERMINAL TO LAUCH CLI
[21:13] <shade052> Slart:Sorry if i offended you. but i thought only routers have a identity and switches dont....and i dont have kids :) its for learning something
[21:13] <th_> Rufus_: type "php" perhaps?
[21:13] <vasilisa> sam__: By default, any OS is going to try to use your ENTIRE drive for its partition. You're going to have to boot up iwth a live cd and shrink your linux partition down
[21:13] <Pici> !caps | x3roconf
[21:13] <ubotu> x3roconf: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:14] <Hagg1> jetscreamer: sorry, the channel is flowing so fast, I didn't thought anyone noticed my question.. How do I search for a USplash that I don't know the name of? Is there a gallery somewhere with previewimages?
[21:14] <sam__> vasilisa: ok i have the xp cd, so i put that in when i startup, and then?
[21:14] <Pici> !themes > Hagg1 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[21:14] <rodolfo> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49546/
[21:14] <Tilllinux> gnome-look.org Hagg1
[21:14] <x3roconf> !smash
[21:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:14] <vasilisa> sam__: If you have only your linux partition and no others, you cant install xp without losing everything
[21:14] <Pici> Hagg1: The themes websites that ubotu just sent you have usplash images too
[21:14] <Flare183> sam_: when you go to install windows on a computer insert the cd, etc. and then when it comes up with something about space tell it "whatever" so much space
[21:14] <Slart> shade052: no offence taken .. what do you mean by identity? ip-number?
[21:14] <jetscreamer> Hagg1: apt-cache search usplash
[21:14] <vasilisa> sam__: You MUST have a partition for windows to go to.
[21:14] <sam__> vasilisa: how do i create another partition then?
[21:14] <jetscreamer> actually, that's the packagename, iirc
[21:15] <shade052> Slart:yes
[21:15] <jetscreamer> cfdisk is easy for creating partitions
[21:15] <shade052> Slart:or a resolvable name
[21:15] <Rufus_> th_:  not working
[21:15] <vasilisa> sam__: You can shrink your current one. But you cant  have the drive mounted, so you have to be logged in on a livecd
[21:15] <sam__> vasilisa: ok let me just try what flare183 told me to do first
[21:15] <Flare183> sam_: or format the entire hard drive and let windows create a partitions using it's installer
[21:15] <sam__> vasilisa: i have a cd for xp..
[21:15] <Rufus_> how can i run a script through the terminal?
[21:15] <vasilisa> sam__: that works IF you have a partition
[21:15] <yubwyub> how do I do if I want to set a program to autostart when I start ubuntu?
[21:15] <yubwyub>  (or perhaps after a minute or so)
[21:15] <Slart> shade052: routerse usually have an ip.. yes.. some expensive switches have that too.. so you can setup stuff and get just the kind of information you're looking for
[21:15] <sam__> vasilisa: im so confused what you mean by partition
[21:15] <nickrud> rodolfo, do you have all of the 3d repos uninstalled?
[21:15] <th_> Rufus_: define "not working"
[21:16] <vasilisa> sam__: When you install an OS, you're supposed to say how much space you give it
[21:16] <sam__> vasilisa: i originally had vista already but now its gone
[21:16] <Flare183> !autostart | yubwyub
[21:16] <ubotu> yubwyub: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[21:16] <nickrud> rodolfo, disabled, that is
[21:16] <Rufus_> th_: nothing happens
[21:16] <vasilisa> sam__: Partition is a section of your computer set aside for an OS
[21:16] <Hagg1> jetscreamer & Pici: thanks, I'll have a look on that
[21:16] <Xplicit> whats the easiest wayto host a wireless network from a ubuntu box
[21:16] <x3roconf> Rufus: type php scriptname.php in terminal
[21:16] <th_> Rufus_: that's exactly what should happen
[21:16] <rodolfo> nickrud: uuuh hard to answer...let me check
[21:16] <sam__> vasilisa: ok is there an administrative program that allows me to make room for windows?
[21:16] <Rufus_> good
[21:16] <Rufus_> lol
[21:16] <th_> Rufus_: try "php -v" to get it print the version, for example
[21:16] <vasilisa> sam__: My computer can be drawn this way:  | LINUX |        DATA       |     WINDOWS    |  SWAP  |
[21:16] <Rufus_> THANK YOU
[21:16] <Rufus_> finally
[21:16] <Lapinux> how would one tell if they were running 32bit ubuntu or 64?
[21:17] <vasilisa> sam__: Yes. In the livecd, qtparted can shrink your linux partition
[21:17] <GMoo> okay people
[21:17] <th_> Lapinux: uname -a
[21:17] <sam__> vasilisa: so the xp cd i have is the live cd right?
[21:17] <GMoo> i downloaded synergy from ubutntu or whatever, now my question is - where is it installed
[21:17] <Dite> hello everyone
[21:17] <vasilisa> sam__: if you have a 500 gig HD, you can shrink ubuntu down to own 250 gigs, and install windows on the other 250. as if they were different drives
[21:17] <Khisanth> cassiopea: does the copy at least have the files that you expect?
[21:17] <vasilisa> sam__: No not at all.
[21:17] <th_> Lapinux: should say x86_64 or so if it's 64
[21:17] <vasilisa> sam__: The UBUNTU live cd
[21:17] <Lapinux> th_: thank you
[21:18] <sam__> vasilisa: oh i have an ubuntu cd too
[21:18] <sam__> vasilisa: so ill put that in when the laptop starts up right?
[21:18] <vasilisa> sam__: Its called a live cd because it boots up into a desktop
[21:18] <sam__> vasilisa: yea i have that
[21:18] <sam__> vasilisa: ok ill try putting that in then
[21:18] <Jordan_U> GMoo, Synergy is not the GUI, to configure synergy via GUI install quicksynergy
[21:18] <Flare183> ok sorry i'm back
[21:18] <GMoo> how do i do that Jordan_U
[21:18] <vasilisa> sam__: Right. Then you're going to load up qtparted, find your drive, and dhrink your ext2/3 whatever linux partition down enough so windows has a home
[21:19] <rodolfo> nickrud: archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy 'partner' is disabled as well as download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty 'eyecandy'
[21:19] <cassiopea> Khisanth: When I write the iso to CD again, it looks exactly like the original, but doesn't boot. BTW, why is there a symlink on the root of the CD that points to the root of the CD?
[21:19] <sam__> vasilisa: ok going now
[21:19] <Jordan_U> GMoo, Do you know how to install applications in Ubuntu yet in general?
[21:19] <vasilisa> sam__: Think of it as land. The two OSes cannot live on the same propert
[21:19] <vasilisa> meh
[21:19] <GMoo> no i don't Jordan_U
[21:19] <Flare183> sam_: one sec
[21:19] <GMoo> i just installed ubuntu a few hours ago for the first time ever.
[21:19] <fr0nk> hey does somebody know where to adjust the number of desktops my cube has? i don't find any setting in ccsm :'(
[21:19] <GMoo> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get installing quicksynergy ???
[21:19] <vasilisa> So IT IS safe to format a partition of your active device if that partition is unmounted!? Is this true?
[21:19] <Creed> GMoo, yep :)
[21:20] <jetscreamer> i think 4 is the limit i forget
[21:20] <Creed> GMoo, sudo apt-get intsall quicksynergy*
[21:20] <x3roconf> irc sucks
[21:20] <GMoo> minus all my spelling mistakes, of course
[21:20] <GMoo> with the * /
[21:20] <Jordan_U> GMoo, "sudo apt-get install quicksynergy" or for a GUI go to Applications -> Add / Remove
[21:20] <fr0nk> i want only three of them ;)
[21:20] <jbm> so you know how it's possible to download 15+ discs of debian packages? is there a similar thing for ubuntu? I have a friend in west africa with piss poor net access, and i installed deb for him and he loves it, but i'd like to send him ubuntu now
[21:20] <snow_> hmm
[21:20] <Creed> bleh even i messed up
[21:20] <fr0nk> 4 is too much for me to handle ;)
[21:20] <snow_> any one use grid technology here ?
[21:20] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, I'll try to walk you thru getting you back to a standard install, ok?
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> x3
[21:20] <jbm> but he uses a lot of not super popular packages
[21:20] <GMoo> but quicksynergy will install it GUI style correct Jordan_U
[21:20] <rodolfo> nickrud: thank you.
[21:20] <fr0nk> and if i could turn the number down to three i could see more with the expose plugin
[21:20] <Dite> how could I set a script file sitcky attribute ? I mean, if anyone execute this, It's run as root priv
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !find synergy
[21:21] <ubotu> Found: quicksynergy, synergy
[21:21] <nickrud> rodolfo, first, run     sudo aptitude    in a terminal
[21:21] <Jordan_U> GMoo, What do you mean "install it GUI style" ?
[21:21] <snow_> in GUI style
[21:21] <GMoo> if i type it in there in the terminal sudo apt-get install quicksynergy it will allow me to then access it from the GUI
[21:21] <GMoo> correct?
[21:21] <Creed> GMoo, quicksynergy is a GUI frontent for synergy (which itself is command line).
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Dite, I think you mean setuid, and you should be VERY careful with that
[21:21] <rodolfo> nickrud: ok
[21:21] <snow_> GMoo, do not make situation complex
[21:21] <Creed> GMoo, once you install quicksynergy it will show up as a menu item under the main menu in Ubuntu, you can launch it from there.
[21:22] <GMoo> ok ty
[21:22] <Flare183> sam_: http://imagebin.ca/view/B7haf1.html
[21:22] <nickrud> rodolfo, we're going to be using some commands there, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide , you should have it open
[21:22] <GMoo> it is installing quicksynergy now
[21:22] <GMoo> it is done
[21:22] <tofaffy> When I started ubuntu, it said my $HOME/.mrc file is being ignored because the permissions were right or something, it said the users home directory should be set to 644...I did that and it locked me out of X (I logged into CLI and fixed it) but how can I fix this?
[21:22] <th_> GMoo: you can install stuff easier from Applications > Add/Remove software without touching command line at all too
[21:22] <tofaffy> I'm still in CLI BTW....I haven't logged back into X yet
[21:22] <Flare183> sam_: got that?
[21:22] <raxor> Hi #ubuntu! Merry Christmas!
[21:23] <GMoo> i'm trying to get proficient at the terminal ty th_
[21:23] <GMoo> now i have installed it --- how do i access it
[21:23] <GMoo> i don't see it listed under
[21:23] <GMoo> 'application's
[21:23] <Dite> Jordan_U, i see, but it didn't work. I don't know why ? Is there a some kind other thing should I fix ?
[21:23] <Vajayjay> Hey
[21:23] <UNDERsoN> is ubuntuforums.org in down?
[21:23] <Vadi> How can I install ndiswrapper without internet?
[21:23] <k0cop> happy new year
[21:23] <nickrud> !ndiswrapper
[21:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:23] <lukewarm> Flare183: he was sam__ , not sam_ , and he left a long while ago
[21:23] <OleMoudi> how can i "unexport" some env variable for a temporary session on a tty?
[21:23] <Flare183> Vadi: oh ok
[21:24] <Flare183> no
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> UNDERsoN: I could not get on there earlier myself
[21:24]  * Flare183 says sorry wrong person
[21:24] <Flare183> lukewarm: oh ok
[21:24] <Vajayjay> Is there a way for me to install Rosetta Stone via CD/DVD, wine doesn't work with it because of DOS/Windows or something
[21:24] <nickrud> rodolfo, still here?
[21:24] <raxor> I was setting up my brother's computer (Dell Inspiron E1505 laptop) with Gutsy and it is working great. However, the only weir thing is that I added a user for him from my admin user and the sound doesn't work for his user (it does for mine). I am guessing the reason is a bad skel... but I don't know what to copy over... any advice?
[21:24] <rodolfo> nickrud: yeah
[21:24] <JonaTh> Ok, I guess I'll give up on ALSA.
[21:24] <Hagg1> A question: Is there a diference in  USplash-files for i386 and amd64, och can I use the same files (without 32bit-librarys on my amd64-machine)?
[21:24] <UNDERsoN> ubuntu.com working ubuntuforums.org is in down
[21:24] <JonaTh> ! oss
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <JonaTh> ! OSS
[21:25] <treetop> i need help with a blank desktop
[21:25] <GMoo> Jordan_U: i have installed quick synergy via the terminal --- how do i access it
[21:25] <nickrud> rodolfo, on the aptitude screen, you'll see Obsolete and Local , cursor down to it and hit [
[21:25] <Vadi> Does anyone know a... more specific answer? That page has hundreds of links.
[21:26] <rodolfo> nickrud: done
[21:26] <Vadi> And I just need to install ndiswrapper. I tried compiling, but I can't, I don't have build-essential on there.
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !find ndiswrapper
[21:26] <ubotu> Found: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 3 others)
[21:26] <Dite> echo ?
[21:26] <Ttech> Hi,  when I start (or try to start) Konsole I get this error: "Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices."
[21:26] <GMoo> i installed quicksynergy via the terminal --- does anyone know how i can now access it ?
[21:26] <treetop> someboty has surely had a black desktop problem before. i can't be that unique
[21:26] <nickrud> rodolfo, you see a bunch of packages there having to do with compiz, righr?
[21:26] <rodolfo> nickrud: nope
[21:26] <k0cop> how do i enter a new server. i keep getting new server back when i chnge the name.. not good using Xchat tu
[21:27] <B-rabbit> raxor, try adding a different account and see if the sounds works?
[21:27] <nickrud> rodolfo, hrm. Just vmware and the like?
[21:27] <th_> GMoo: try typing "quicksynergy" ?-)
[21:27] <raxor> thanks B-rabbit will do...
[21:27] <rodolfo> nickrud: hmm still looking for...
[21:27] <Vadi> Jack_Sparrow: Ah, thanks. Found it on packages.ubuntu.com
[21:27] <treetop> curing a blank desktop please
[21:27] <raxor> B-rabbit: I used sudo adduser for that... should I do something different when I add the user?
[21:27] <rodolfo> nickrud: got it!
[21:27] <GMoo> ty
[21:27] <Jack_Sparrow> glad you got it
[21:28] <rodolfo> nickrud: compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial and compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported
[21:28] <lukewarm> treetop just ask your question
[21:28] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, now mark for deletion ( shift underscore) those packages
[21:28] <raxor> treetop: there are hundreds of reasons why a desktop could be "black" what did you do that made that happen?
[21:28] <treetop> i did, i can't get anything but a blank desktop. how do i fix it.
[21:28] <rodolfo> nickrud: they're in purple now
[21:28] <squegie> treetop: is it blank (grey background) or black/blank screen?
[21:29] <nickrud> rodolfo, anything red on the screen?
[21:29] <zeroflag> " error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" <--- what package do I need? libgtk1.2 and 2.0 are installed.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> OleMoudi, It's in Applications -> Accessories
[21:29] <andre4> Anyone fancy helping me with an Xmas Day problem I have with booting?
[21:29] <treetop> raxor: nothing, i just booted up from yeasterday, and since 8 this morning i've tried to get it back.
[21:29] <B-rabbit> raxor, sudo adduser is fine...but if you want to do it graphically  then u can use the system>administration> users and groups
[21:29] <rodolfo> nickrud: nothing
[21:29] <andre4> all boots fine if i bring up single user (recovery)
[21:29] <nickrud> rodolfo, oh, this might actually be easy.  Now press g , that will bring up a screen of any changes that will be made
[21:29] <andre4> then ^D
[21:30] <andre4> but not from main boot option on loaded
[21:30] <andre4> loader
[21:30] <cherva> how can i record my playlist (sound only) with mplayer ? mplayer -playlist myplaylist.m3u -ao pcm:file=text.wav doen't make what i want
[21:30] <lukewarm> treetop: does Cntrl + Alt + Bckspce do anything?
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> treetop: Have you installed or compiled anything from outside the official repos or used any scripts like automatix or envy.. both bad ideas by the way
[21:30] <treetop> this happens regularly and i can't chase down an answer as to why. i see the background, i can get to a terminal, i see the mouse, but nothing else.
[21:30] <rodolfo> nickrud: look i know you are the mr.brain-guy but i need to know why i am uninstalling these packages
[21:30] <treetop> Jack_Sparrow. No.
[21:31] <nickrud> rodolfo, they come from that tuxfamily repo, and are most likely causing the conflict
[21:31] <treetop> lukewarm: i do that and I get a brown screen and everything stops. at that point i have to hard power down.
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> treetop: Did this happen after the update?
[21:31] <olli> Good evening!
[21:31] <nickrud> rodolfo, ask any question you like, it's your machine and caution is wise
[21:31] <Khisanth> cassiopea: in that case you will probably have to look for an option in whatever burning program you are using so that it creates a bootable disc instead of a normal disc
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: Hi
[21:32] <rodolfo> nickrud: i see. and how do i proceed with the uninstall process?
[21:32] <treetop> jack_sparrow. nope i didn't update. i just installed gutsy from the livecd
[21:32] <olli> hey Jack_Sparrow, still online?
[21:32] <nickrud> rodolfo, on that screen, is anything else marked for removeal or installation (green)
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Does The Ubuntu DVD come with the option to boot Xubuntu?
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> olli: I am downloading my work for the week , so I thought I would hang out for a couple miutes
[21:32] <Flare183> Jordan_U: nope
[21:33] <B-rabbit> Jordan_U, no
[21:33] <rodolfo> nickrud: there is 'package to be removed' and the two packages i already selected to be removed...
[21:33] <olli> I see. I've still got some problems with my installation
[21:33] <rodolfo> nickrud: but nothing in green...
[21:33] <squegie> treetop: so the live cd works, and then you install and it gives you the background only?
[21:33] <nickrud> rodolfo, good. press   g   again to go do the removal
[21:33] <treetop> i've also gon back and rebooted to the 'supposedly' save environment. the same thing occurs.
[21:33] <Flare183> Jordan_U: you must download and burn the iso from http://www.xubuntu.org  yourself
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> treetop: This is a fresh install...  dual booting or single os...  your problem is not common so any info will help..
[21:33] <rodolfo> nickrud: done. now what?
[21:33] <nickrud> rodolfo, try running ccsm
[21:34] <GMoo> hello i have a question
[21:34] <GMoo> how do i find out waht my network username is
[21:34] <rodolfo> nickrud: nothing happened.
[21:34] <raxor> B-rabbit: I added the user and have the sam problem. When I try to access the sound properties now I am getting a popup (that I saw once before). "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means that you either don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. You can remove the volume control icon..."
[21:34] <GMoo> like gmoonit-desktop i think it is how do i check that
[21:34] <nickrud> rodolfo, same output in the terminal?
[21:34] <olli> I've got the installer (initrd) running and I would like to mount the iso-file for installation which is on my harddrive and I haven't got a glue how to do that
[21:34] <GMoo> nm
[21:35] <treetop> Jack_sparrow. I wish i had someithing more. it works eventually, then after a hibernate ti won't return. this happens constantly. i'd live with any minimum boot at this point where i could see the desktop
[21:35] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes
[21:35] <jake2235> how do I set the command line build paths for G++?
[21:35] <nickrud> rodolfo, you're back to the screen that has  Installed Packages in the first line of the black section?
[21:35] <rodolfo> nickrud: yup
[21:36] <B-rabbit> raxor, install the GStreamer plugins
[21:36] <raxor> Heh...
[21:36] <antonio_> hola
[21:36] <B-rabbit> laho
[21:36] <raxor> B-rabbit... is that an apt-get thing?
[21:36] <tifine> hello
[21:36] <antonio_> hola antoñito
[21:36] <antonio_> adion antonio
[21:36] <nickrud> rodolfo,   type   l  it will open a search dialog.  type compiz , then enter
[21:36] <Flare183> !es
[21:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:36] <tifine> i want to give a sharing folder so that window users can write and read from that folder
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> treetop: Then two different problems...   Hibernate/suspend has issues.. for the other.. it just takes a long time to come up?  You might want to remove quiet from your boot/grub/menu/lst or ckeck dmesg... sorry I cant help more.. but very busy here today..  Cant get into a long session..
[21:37] <Jordan_U> jake2235, What do you mean? It should be setup when you install the package
[21:37] <nickrud> rodolfo, that will limit the display to packages with compiz in the name
[21:37] <rodolfo> nickrud: it returned nothing
[21:37]  * raxor brb afk
[21:37] <treetop> also, how do i get the bcm43xx error to stop generating?
[21:37] <nickrud> rodolfo, you should see InstalledPackages still, right?
[21:37] <portablejim> anybody know of multithreaded applications?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> jake2235, Nvm, misread
[21:37] <rodolfo> nickrud: yup
[21:37] <nickrud> rodolfo, how about Not Installed Packages
[21:37] <Flare183> treetop: Same problem, but i don't consider it a problem i just ignore it
[21:38] <portablejim> I meant to say if anybody knew any.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> treetop, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager, have it grab the firmware for your card
[21:38] <fiXXXerMet> Can anyone recommend an asterisk+gui tutorial for ubuntu?
[21:38] <rodolfo> nickrud: it returned nothing too
[21:38] <Jordan_U> treetop, That will also likely get your wireless card working :)
[21:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, so far so good.  hit [  with Installed Packages highlighted
[21:38] <Masse> Is it possible to minimize FrostWire to the systemtray?
[21:38] <Flare183> Masse: with alltray you can
[21:38] <squegie> broadcom chipsets are a major pain
[21:39] <Flare183> squegie: yeah i know
[21:39] <Masse> Flare183: What is alltray? Is it possible to download it from the multiverse?
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> squegie: bcm43xx have all worked first time and been easy with fwcutter..
[21:39] <chazco> Hi... any idea how i can find a specific line in a file and remove it using terminal? I'm guessing something to do with grep...
[21:39] <B-rabbit> raxor, search for it in the application>add/remove.
[21:39] <Flare183> Masse: I think so hold on one sec
[21:39] <chazco> e.g. find the line with ABCDE in it and delete that line
[21:39] <rodolfo> nickrud: what the...?
[21:39] <Flare183> !info alltray
[21:39] <ubotu> alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[21:40] <Masse> Flare183: I'm checking it out too
[21:40] <Flare183> there
[21:40] <rodolfo> nickrud: there are 10 related-packages that matched 'compiz'
[21:40] <B-rabbit> raxor, did u find it
[21:40] <B-rabbit> ?
[21:40] <Masse> Flare183: THanks alot. I just installed it and trying to get it functional.
[21:40] <Flare183> Masse: ok no problem
[21:40] <treetop> jack_sparrow. I've done that and rebooted. i'll let your know if i get any further. thanks.
[21:41] <rodolfo> nickrud: so why the search didnt returned that?
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> treetop: good luck
[21:41] <nickrud> rodolfo, you should see libcompizconfig-backend-gconf  libcompizconfig0 compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-config-settings-manager python-compizconfig
[21:41] <nickrud> rodolfo, it did, this is how it displays them
[21:41] <th_> Puuh! Finally! Setup complete! and what a stup it was! Ubuntu Gutsy 64bit on Macbook Pro.. http://zirkonium.net/ubuntu-mbp.png now it's perfect expect sleep doesn't work :/
[21:42] <Flare183> !away | Creed`away
[21:42] <ubotu> Creed`away: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[21:42] <nickrud> rodolfo, one of those plugin-extras is supposed to be plugins-main
[21:42] <Masse> !info alltray
[21:42] <ubotu> alltray: Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.69-1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 224 kB
[21:42] <Flare183> Masse: look
[21:42] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes
[21:42] <Flare183> !alltray
[21:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alltray - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:42] <treetop> jack_sparrow. Thanks, it seems to have worked. I'll just quit from now on and not hibernate.
[21:43] <JonaTh> ! sh
[21:43] <Flare183> Masse: nevermind then
[21:43] <B-rabbit> !sh
[21:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:43] <nickrud> rodolfo, the all are listed, with i at the beginning of the line?
[21:43] <rodolfo> nickrud: compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[21:43] <JonaTh> !sh
[21:43] <Masse> Flare183: I open the application and it says click the window you want to dock but I clicked all around the window but it wouldn't dock
[21:44] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, highlight the Installed Packages line again
[21:44] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes, but there is one with "i A python-compizconfig"
[21:44] <Flare183> Masse: it's probably because your using compiz right?
[21:44] <nickrud> rodolfo, yes, that means it was automatically installed as a dependency, if you removed the package that depended on it, aptitude would also remove it
[21:44] <Masse> Flare183: Not at the moment, shouldn't be active, I tried to use it once before but never was able to get it work
[21:44] <rodolfo> nickrud: got it.
[21:45] <Flare183> Masse: well if that fails try kxdocker
[21:45] <rodolfo> nickrud: installed packages highlighted
[21:45] <nickrud> rodolfo, on the Installed Packages line, hit  shift L  , they should all turn green with ir at the beginning
[21:45] <nickrud> rodolfo, no g  g   to reinstall all those packages
[21:46] <nickrud> *go, not no :)
[21:46] <Flare183> !info kxdocker | Masse
[21:46] <ubotu> masse: Package kxdocker does not exist in gutsy
[21:46] <Flare183> sorry
[21:46] <rodolfo> nickrud: type "g" twice to reinstall all packages listed in green with 'installed packages' highlighted?
[21:46] <nickrud> rodolfo, exactly
[21:47] <Flare183> !info kdocker | Masse
[21:47] <ubotu> masse: kdocker: minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 328 kB
[21:47] <Flare183> there
[21:47] <rodolfo> nickrud: i got an error msg
[21:47] <nickrud> rodolfo, what is it?
[21:47] <Ragewarp> how do i install libdvdcss so i can watch encrypted DVD's
[21:47] <nickrud> rodolfo, anything red on the screen?
[21:47] <GMoo> muyhahahahaha i got synergy working with winxp pro win2k pro and ubuntu machine ... ROCK
[21:48] <rodolfo> nickrud: it didnt find the file wich is required to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[21:48] <Flare183> !dvd > Ragewarp
[21:48] <yubwyub> hi here again. some things with compiz-effects is started with key-combinations, is it possible to start them from a command instead?
[21:48] <Ragewarp> yes
[21:48] <Flare183> !who
[21:48] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:48] <rodolfo> nickrud: internal error: it didnt generate the package listto be downloaded.
[21:48] <Ragewarp> what?
[21:48] <Slart> yubwyub: sounds advanced.. have you tried asking in #compiz-fusion ... you might get better answers
[21:49] <nickrud> rodolfo, check your sources.list , make sure universe is enabled
[21:49] <yubwyub> ah.. there is a compiz -ircchannel.... didn't thought of that. I ask there
[21:49] <morphles> is there a way to slow down case/psu source?
[21:49] <morphles> is there a way to slow down case/psu fan* ?
[21:49]  * sam__ still has trouble installing xp...
[21:50] <Ragewarp>  how do i install libdvdcss so i can watch encrypted DVD's
[21:50] <Slart> !dvd | Ragewarp
[21:50] <rodolfo> nickrud: main, universe, restricted and multiverse are already enabled. (got this from 'software channel' - synaptic package manager)
[21:50] <ubotu> Ragewarp: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:51] <yubwyub> Ragewarp, probably vlc is better though...
[21:51] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, hit u in aptitude to update
[21:52] <sam__> can someone pleaes help me install xp
[21:52] <morphles> anybody knows if its posible to slow down psu fan (of course only at the times when computer isntu used much)?
[21:52] <rodolfo> nickrud: 'updating'
[21:52] <sourcemaker> I have build my own kernel... based on the current stable vanilla kernel... i have also installed the nvidia module... but this module is not loading... what's wrong?
[21:52] <rodolfo> nickrud: done.
[21:52] <nickrud> rodolfo, when it's done do the gg thing again
[21:53]  * sam__ ...
[21:53] <Pici> sam__: ##windows for windows help
[21:53] <rodolfo> nickrud: its not my lucky day - got the same error msg
[21:54] <sourcemaker> I spend two evenings... without success.... ;-(
[21:54] <nickrud> rodolfo, that is very strange. the file is in universe ...
[21:54] <rodolfo> nickrud: what about trying to fiz the compizconfig-settings-manager package manually? =P
[21:54] <sam__> pici: well i have linux installed, but im trying to install xp on it
[21:54] <nickrud> rodolfo, visually check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:54] <sam__> pici: its easier getting linux installed on windows than the other way around..
[21:55] <GMoo> hello
[21:55] <GMoo> what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the terminal
[21:55] <Pici> sam__: Have you tried asking in ##windows?
[21:55] <arkatis> hi @ all. I have an Intel 4965 wifi chip. I think he's supported, but if I do "iwlist scan" he say: "Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable". Does somebody know what I can do?
[21:55] <GMoo> what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the terminal
[21:55] <sam__> pici: dont they only know about windows?
[21:55] <init_one> in the right place for general newb questions?
[21:55] <cdm10> init_one: probably :) just ask
[21:55] <GMoo> i don't think so init_one, mine aren't getting answered
[21:56] <GMoo> what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the terminal, cdm10
[21:56] <cdm10> GMoo: you can set one up yourself in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[21:56] <init_one> I need to set up my work VPN. can't figure out how to do that. also, any mail clients that work with exchange?
[21:56] <GMoo> i don't have a mouse
[21:56] <GMoo> i need to know the default one
[21:56] <Pici> sam__: You're asking about installing Window XP, I'm not sure why you think that we might know.
[21:56] <cdm10> GMoo: do you want to get into a console, or do you want to open a terminal window?
[21:56] <rodolfo> nickrud: i pasted it on that site again. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49550/
[21:57] <Pici> GMoo: There is none iirc, press alt-f2 and type gnome-terminal
[21:57] <GMoo> i wanna start up synergy so i can use my keyboard/mouse lol
[21:57] <GMoo> thank you pici
[21:57] <dredhammer> high i just fired up a comercial dvd  movie disc in ubuntu using totem-gstreamer and all that comes out is the dvd audio and no video all the gstreamer plugins are installed as well as libdvdcss2 dvd video will just not show
[21:57] <cdm10> GMoo: you should be able to navigate the system with just the keyboard. I just set a shortcut up myself without using the mouse
[21:57] <GMoo> ty cdm, i got it
[21:57] <sam__> pici: well i need to create partition space for windows. currently im on linux and i dont know how to do it on linux
[21:57] <GMoo> alright next question
[21:57] <cdm10> GMoo: If you need to do that, just use alt-f1 to get to the menu... you can then navigate with the arrow keys. Although, it sounds like you'll have your mouse working soon.
[21:58] <cdm10> GMoo: do you want that to be run at every login?
[21:58] <GMoo> YES
[21:58] <GMoo> pls
[21:58] <fiXXXerMet> Can anyone recommend an asterisk+gui tutorial for ubuntu/debian??
[21:58] <cdm10> GMoo: System>Preferences>Sessions.
[21:58] <GMoo> ty cdm
[21:58] <Pici> sam__: Do you have the Ubuntu Desktop CD?
[21:58] <GMoo> so are you here to help or ask questions lol
[21:59] <nickrud> rodolfo, that's one of the uglier ones I've seen, but universe is enabled.  Try removing the compizconfig-settings-manger deb from /var/lib/apt/archives
[21:59] <mic21_> how can I set the gid bit recursivly only on directories without touch the files ?
[21:59] <cdm10> GMoo: to help, now.
[21:59] <cdm10> GMoo: you may sometimes find the mailing lists and forums a little more helpful...
[21:59] <yubwyub> here it is http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?p=35532#post35532
[22:00] <GMoo> copy that, cdm
[22:00] <rodolfo> nickrud: hm. how?
[22:00] <cdm10> GMoo: they're usually a little less hectic than here, although it's pretty quiet atm.
[22:00] <GMoo> can anyone reccomnd a mp3 player that uses very little resources
[22:00] <init_one> anyone help me set up my VPN and recommend an exchange capable mail client?
[22:00] <yubwyub> oups wrong window
[22:00] <nickrud> rodolfo, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/compizconfig<tab>  <-- hit the tab key (and sorry for saying lib/apt last line)
[22:00] <cdm10> GMoo: Do you need a jukebox that organizes your music, or just something to play files?
[22:01] <GMoo> jukebox to organize my music would be great
[22:01] <GMoo> i have like 20,000 songs and all of them repeate
[22:01] <GMoo> but it doesn'[t matter really
[22:01] <GMoo> i have like doubles and everything is effed up
[22:01] <GMoo> anyway, no, just something to play my music i guess and jump to file
[22:01] <GMoo> i'm only running a 450 MHZ PIII with 512 RAM
[22:01] <cdm10> GMoo: I use Rhythmbox... it doesn't seem too heavy on my system, but I'm not sure...
[22:01] <GMoo> i like using foobar
[22:01] <GMoo> what are your specs
[22:02] <GMoo> (foobar when on windows, i mean)
[22:02] <rodolfo> nickrud: nothing happened
[22:02] <cdm10> GMoo: 3 GHz, 1.2 GB... although I used to run 1 Ghz w/ 386 MB RAM, and I remember it working fine
[22:02] <GMoo> lol
[22:02] <arkatis> somebody here with an wifi agn 4965 from intel?
[22:02] <nickrud> rodolfo, that's good, that means it deleted just fine
[22:02] <GMoo> well. uh how much music do you have?
[22:02] <rodolfo> nickrud: the directory doesnot exist anymore
[22:02] <GMoo> okay cdm... i will try this ryhmthbox --- how do i get it... lol
[22:02] <zimon> does anyone know a way to specify "complex" rules for automatic playlists in rhythmbox? like .. (genre contains metal OR genre contains industrial) AND rating at least 4?
[22:03] <nickrud> rodolfo, say what?
[22:03] <Hilikus> how can i tell the FS of a partition?
[22:03] <fabio_> somebody here can show me how to install a vx-3000 webcam on ubuntu linux 7.10?
[22:03] <cdm10> GMoo: it's installed by default. Applications>Sound ond Video>Rhythmbox Music Player I tink
[22:03] <GMoo> oh is it, amazing
[22:03] <rodolfo> nickrud: the directory (or the file) does not exist anymore
[22:03] <GMoo> yes
[22:03] <GMoo> yes it is
[22:03] <khaotik> can anyone tell me how to keep my graphics settings saved without having to manually change them everytime i boot up
[22:03] <cdm10> Hilikus: try running sudo fdisk -l, it'll show you all the filesystems of all the partitions
[22:03] <nickrud> rodolfo, you don't have a  /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[22:04] <Hilikus> cdm10 i did that, it doesnt say, it gives a code
[22:04] <init_one> ...
[22:04] <Dappercom_> I just installed Ubuntu (Xubuntu) to IBM Thinkpad 600e and i cant get sound working, can anyone help?
[22:04] <GMoo> ok i am adding my music via the network right now
[22:04] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes i do.
[22:04] <Khisanth> arkatis: I seem to be :)
[22:04] <sourcemaker> has somebody installed the nvidia driver from NVidia.com?
[22:04] <cdm10> Hilikus: Look at the rightmost column...
[22:04] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, you scared me :)
[22:04] <arkatis> Khisanth: does it work ?
[22:04] <rodolfo> nickrud: =P
[22:05] <GMoo> well cdm, don't you have AIM or MSN or something
[22:05] <GMoo> i want you all to myself
[22:05] <cdm10> sourcemaker: that's not a great idea...
[22:05] <GMoo> to annoy the piss out of
[22:05] <cdm10> GMoo: heh, you can PM me outside the channel by typing /query cdm10
[22:05] <nickrud> rodolfo, if the file got deleted, try the gg again
[22:05] <fabio_> please, anyone knows how to install vx-3000 webcam on linux??
[22:05] <sourcemaker> cdm10: I know... but it is extremly required... because the current kernel ist not working for me...
[22:05] <Dappercom_> I just installed Ubuntu (Xubuntu) to IBM Thinkpad 600e and i cant get sound working, can anyone help me?
[22:05] <Khisanth> arkatis: yes, but I already knew that before buying this system :)
[22:05] <erUSUL> !webcam
[22:05] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:05] <zimon> Dappercom_, i guess you need the snd_hda_intel driver that's somehow broken in gutsy. try the backports or - if they don't work - build them manually
[22:06] <Khisanth> arkatis: there IS one bit of strangeness
[22:06] <mjkelly93> anyone know where the official mesa channel is?
[22:06] <cdm10> GMoo: in the future, to PM other people, you'll need to register... I've set my account unfiltered, so unregistered people can PM me, but most people haven't.
[22:06] <Hilikus> cdm10 it says LINUX
[22:06] <cdm10> !register > GMoo
[22:06] <rodolfo> nickrud: still the same
[22:06] <cdm10> Hilikus: that means Ext2 or Ext3.
[22:06] <mjkelly93> or is anyone in here familiar with mesa?
[22:06] <rodolfo> nickrud: erro message
[22:06] <cdm10> Hilikus: lemme see if there's a way to check which...
[22:06] <sourcemaker> cdm10: And for the moment... I am hating kubuntu for this... there is no help... how to solve the problem... because my wlan card is not working with the 2.6.22 release...
[22:06] <arkatis> Khisanth: I have this card, but it doesnt work. i dont know what I can do to get it working...
[22:06] <Khisanth> arkatis: it works fine if set to roaming but if I try to set it to manual it doesn't seem to work
[22:06] <Hilikus> cdm10 im pretty sure it is XFS
[22:06] <cdm10> sourcemaker: sorry, missed/forgot your question... can you fill me in?
[22:06] <nickrud> rodolfo, in another terminal, do sudo aptitude reinstall compizconfig-settings-manager , and paste the complete error
[22:06] <ebirtaid> !ops
[22:06] <arkatis> Khisanth: but if I set it to "roaming", how can I connect to wireless networks?
[22:06] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[22:06] <fabio_> thank you very much to ubotu!
[22:06] <Khisanth> arkatis: manual also seems to have fewer options with regards to encryption
[22:06] <Pici> ebirtaid: ?
[22:06] <tomaw> ebirtaid?
[22:07] <ebirtaid> banned from forums was wondering why
[22:07] <Pici> ebirtaid: Why did you do that?
[22:07] <ebirtaid> I think banned
[22:07] <Khisanth> arkatis: I am using the gnome applet to select a network to connect to
[22:07] <cdm10> Hilikus: you can open the /etc/fstab file and check what it says there.
[22:07] <arkatis> Khisanth: okay, I try
[22:07] <GMoo> lol dude
[22:07] <mjkelly93> anyone familiar with this error??? Mesa 7.1 implementation error: i915_program_error: Exceeded max nr indirect texture lookups
[22:07] <Khisanth> arkatis: my router is broadcasting it's essid
[22:07] <GMoo> this is taking forever
[22:07] <GMoo> i have 26 songs added in the first 2 minutes
[22:07] <GMoo> i have like 20,000 songs
[22:07] <ebirtaid> ok so I get kicked for asking?
[22:07] <cdm10> GMoo: are you importing songs from another computer on the network?
[22:07] <GMoo> yes
[22:07] <Khisanth> arkatis: I guess you can use the Connect to Other Wireless Networks option if your's isn't
[22:08] <ebirtaid> nice
[22:08] <cdm10> GMoo: well, that's why :)
[22:08] <cdm10> GMoo: It has to copy it all onto that computer's hard drive.
[22:08] <Pici> ebirtaid: You get kicked for abusing !ops.
[22:08] <GMoo> oh well... not so bad i guess... i can listen to music while importing
[22:08] <ebirtaid> uhm
[22:08] <GMoo> cdm10i would hope it isn't copying the songs itself onto the harddrive
[22:08] <Khisanth> arkatis: the other thing is that you get the "show password" option so you can be sure you didn't type in the wrong pass :P
[22:08] <ebirtaid> can someone other than an op tell me why I cant acess the forums?
[22:08] <mjkelly93> !mesa
[22:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:08] <Khisanth> although you could copy and paste as well
[22:08] <GMoo> just the address, cdm10
[22:08] <cdm10> GMoo: I'd say another good option is to set up a music server on the other computer and just have this computer browse and stream its collection, if you don't mind not having the songs on your HD.
[22:08] <arkatis> Khisanth: I dont find this panel applet, what you mean
[22:08] <sourcemaker> cdm10: My wlan card is not working with the current 2.6.22 kernel release... and there is no udate available... only with the next kubuntu release.... (long time)... So I have compiled the new vanilla kernel... installed and it is working very fine... but the nvidia module does not work... I have also installed this module with the nvidia installer
[22:09] <rodolfo> nickrud: you dont give me credits to do this...its not easy
[22:09] <Pici> ebirtaid: Either see if you can find forum contact in #ubuntuforums or contact a moderator on the forums themselves.
[22:09] <cdm10> GMoo: Are you sure? See if your ~/Music folder is filling up... it's possible it's actually copying.
[22:09] <mjkelly93> can anyone point me in the direction of some help with Mesa and DRM?
[22:09] <arkatis> Khisanth: the biggest problem is, if I type "iwlist scan" he say's : wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:09] <stiggan> hi
[22:09] <Pici> ebirtaid: Channel operators have nothing to do with the forums.
[22:09] <nickrud> rodolfo, no problem, I understand it's hard when you start
[22:09] <cdm10> sourcemaker: You probably won't find the best help for self-compiled kernels around here.
[22:09] <phrantik> what is !ops
[22:09] <stiggan> anyone got "Slimtype DVD A DS8A1P" working to burn with?
[22:09] <rodolfo> nickrud: as well as translating ;)
[22:10] <Pici> phrantik:
[22:10] <arkatis> Khisanth: I know which applet you mean
[22:10] <Khisanth> arkatis: it's from the network-manager-gnome package
[22:10] <wasabi> Howdy. Trying to enable core dumps on this PowerPC gutsy machine.
[22:10] <sourcemaker> cdm10: Wel... but without compiling my self... kubuntu is unusable for me... and I have to use a different disto...!
[22:10] <mjkelly93> nickrud do u know where i can find some help with Mesa?
[22:10] <wasabi> ulimit -c is set to unlimited. core_pattern is set to /tmp
[22:10] <Pici> phrantik: It pings all of the ops in case of channel emergency, dont use it unless there is a channel emergency.
[22:10] <Khisanth> nm-applet
[22:10] <Dappercom_> zimon: sorry, but where can i find it, how do i install it :D
[22:10] <nickrud> rodolfo, oh, give me the untranslated, it's pretty generic errors I've seen
[22:10] <wasabi> still, nothing dumps
[22:10] <phrantik> 10-4
[22:10] <nickrud> mjkelly93, no I sure don't.
[22:10] <mjkelly93> ty anyway
[22:10] <Khisanth> arkatis: ah well there is one bit of detail here that is relevant, I am not using the standard 7.10 kernel, this is from EmperorLinux
[22:10] <rodolfo> nickrud: no problem, (working on it, hold on)
[22:10] <cdm10> sourcemaker: I'm sorry, I can't help you... if no one else can, try posting to the mailing list or forums.
[22:11] <arkatis> Khisanth: mhh okay but I think that's not the point
[22:11] <sourcemaker> cdm10: The only solution for this problem... is a kernel upgrade... and this seems not supported in kubuntu... and for compining the kernel my own... nobody can help me... that's bad
[22:11] <mjkelly93> is anyone familiar with this error? Mesa 7.1 implementation error: i915_program_error: Exceeded max nr indirect texture lookups
[22:12] <cdm10> sourcemaker: Generally, we don't provide support for people who use packages for core system pieces (like the kernel) that aren't provided by Ubuntu. If you can't use Ubuntu, by all means, use another distro that'll work better for you.
[22:12] <juri> Hello, can anyone help me to install Ubuntu? I'm installing it from PXE Boot and during base-install I get on glibc package "invalid tar magic"
[22:12] <Glam> will dual booting work with vista basic & ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop?
[22:12] <arkatis> Khisanth: I think I have to use vista :(
[22:12] <cdm10> sourcemaker: However, before abandoning Ubuntu... please try posting to the mailing list or the forum.
[22:12] <Hilikus> one of my partitions stopped working, it give me "superblock read failed". how can i check if its the partition thats screwed or the hard drive itself??
[22:12] <zimon> Dappercom_, first, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all lines containing "gutsy-backports". after that, run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade alsa
[22:12] <mjkelly93> glam yeah im doing that right now
[22:12] <cherva>  hi all i have an m3u file with some wav files and i want to make 1 wav file containing the sound of the other wav files from the m3u how can i do that ? when i type mplayer -playlist example.m3u -ao pcm:file=myfile.wav i get a myfile.wav file containing only the last wav from the m3u :(
[22:12] <juri> Can someone help me with that magic?
[22:12] <cdm10> Hilikus: try running fsck on it.
[22:12] <Glam> ok, thanks mjkelly93
[22:13] <cdm10> !fsck | Hilikus
[22:13] <Khisanth> arkatis: oh wait, it has never been used on a windows machine?
[22:13] <ubotu> Hilikus: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[22:13] <mjkelly93> glam just install ubuntu first bc the vista partitioning software is garbage
[22:13] <sourcemaker> cdm10: Well.... it is not a kubuntu problem... it is just kernel related... but I think... there is no magic to compile a kernel... is quite easy.. or not in kubutu?
[22:13] <Larose> Which package create /lib/modules directory ?
[22:13] <arkatis> Khisanth: it has been used on a windows machine and works quite well
[22:13] <Oxi-Clean> If I want to install Ubuntu as the only OS on my HDD w/o the GRUB installed is there any way to do that?  I want it to just boot to Ubuntu w/o fail.
[22:13] <mjkelly93> is anyone out there familiar with Mesa3d? anyone?
[22:13] <Hilikus> cdm10 but thats for ext2/3 isnt itL
[22:13] <nickrud> sourcemaker, keeping in mind what cdm10 said about support, I'll mention that you'll need to get the nvidia driver from nvidia to work with your custom kernel
[22:13] <Khisanth> arkatis: nvm, I was thinking of something else
[22:14] <cdm10> Hilikus: I'm not entirely sure... you may want to try posting to the mailing list or forum if no one knows.
[22:14] <x-X-x> what does ubuntu 7.10 gutsy use as default when i double click a .run file ?
[22:14] <Khisanth> arkatis: I was thinking of the EVDO adapter
[22:14] <arkatis> Khisanth: EVDO?
[22:14] <phrantik> just curious: how do you do that rotating cube thing?  I have the "advanced desktop settings" installed and i have enabled the "desktop cube" but how do you make it actually do it?
[22:14] <zimon> Dappercom_, maybe you need to install linux-backports-modules .. i don't know
[22:14] <cdm10> phrantik: you first need to have horizontal virtual size set to more than one
[22:14] <x-X-x> someone help me ?
[22:15] <Khisanth> arkatis: using your cellphone to make a connection
[22:15] <treetop> who remembers lynx?
[22:15] <arkatis> Khisanth: ah ok
[22:15] <Oxi-Clean> If I want to install Ubuntu as the only OS on my HDD w/o the GRUB installed is there any way to do that?  I want it to just boot to Ubuntu w/o fail.
[22:15] <cdm10> phrantik: then try the shortcut ctrl-alt-right/left arrow
[22:15] <Khisanth> arkatis: I am pretty sure you guys use something else over there :)
[22:15] <Dappercom_> zimon: It did not upgrade anything... 0 upgrades...
[22:15] <x-X-x> what does ubuntu 7.10 gutsy use as default when i double click a .run file ?
[22:15] <rodolfo> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49551/
[22:15] <phrantik> cdm10: i must have it set on only1... how do i change that?
[22:15] <x-X-x> to open it
[22:15] <arkatis> Khisanth: hehe. So if i type:  cat /var/log/syslog | grep iwl49 he says that the device is fully supported.
[22:15] <cdm10> !anyone | x-X-x
[22:15] <cdm10> x-X-x: What are you trying to install?
[22:15] <Rufus_> how do i get a userlist in x-chat?
[22:15] <ubotu> x-X-x: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:16] <shade052> we had a group of 10 computers installed all with ssh client. Now any one can log into the other comp through ssh. To stop that we either deny access through /etc/hosts or close the ssh daemon . can the denial to this service be done to specific users from within ssh?
[22:16] <Ttech> Is there an eqivelent to http://www.launchy.net/ for Ubuntu?
[22:16] <zimon> Dappercom_, try apt-get -s upgrade ... are there any updates?
[22:16] <Rufus_> how do i get a userlist in x-chat?
[22:16] <Hilikus> xfs_check: read failed: Input/output error
[22:16] <x-X-x> does anyone know what ubuntu gutsy uses as default to open a .run file?
[22:16] <cdm10> x-X-x: please answer my question.
[22:16] <cdm10> !repeat | Rufus_
[22:16] <ubotu> Rufus_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:17] <x-X-x> pbsetup.run
[22:17] <cdm10> Rufus_: I'll install Xchat and tell you in a sec if no one else answers... but please be patient.
[22:17] <Dappercom_> zimon: 0 upgrades...
[22:17] <cdm10> x-X-x: what's that for?
[22:17] <x-X-x> enemy territory
[22:17] <x-X-x> i need to update pb
[22:17] <Oxi-Clean> How can I install Ubuntu so it just boots to it, ie no GRUB asking me to run memcheck and what not?  i'm in the Ubuntu Install screen would I want to use text mode or OEM mode?
[22:17] <alecwh_d> Transmission, the torrent client, has not been updated on my Ubuntu box. The latest release is .96, and it is not reflected on the official ubuntu repositories.  Is there a reason for this?
[22:18] <zimon> Dappercom_, install linux-backports-modules then
[22:18] <cdm10> x-X-x: you should run it in a terminal. If it's on your desktop, open the terminal, then type sh Desktop/pbsetup.run
[22:18] <x-X-x> i ask you cos before when i double clicked a .run file a gui came up now it says open up with wine
[22:18] <Dappercom_> zimon: apt-get install linux-backports-modules?
[22:18] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: install it normally, and I can tell you what files to edit to make that happen
[22:18] <nickrud> rodolfo, I have never seen that error, could you give me the untranslated version?
[22:18] <zimon> Dappercom_, right
[22:18] <x-X-x> sh Desktop/pbsetup.run
[22:18] <x-X-x> Desktop/pbsetup.run: 18: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[22:19] <Pici> x-X-x: use bash, not sh
[22:19] <cdm10> x-X-x: ah, sorry 'bout that
[22:19] <Oxi-Clean> cdm10: would i need to have two paritions? ie a swap partition if this is the only OS i plan on running on the system
[22:19] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: it has nothing to do with partitions
[22:19] <osito> Hi, can anyone help me fix this error messages: [  168.201017] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x8d on isa0060/serio0).
[22:19] <osito> [  168.201021] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e00d <keycode>' to make it known.
[22:19] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: Just install as normally, and it's a setting you can change after you install.
[22:19] <osito> I'm on an Inspiron 1501
[22:19] <GMoo> but i'm not gonna break
[22:19] <Oxi-Clean> cmd10: ok I'll come back to you when I'm there, thank you
[22:20] <Dappercom_> zimon: What are these backport modules for?
[22:20] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: btw
[22:20] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: hold on one sec, I can tell you waht to do now..
[22:20] <zimon> Dappercom_, those are the latest drivers for the ubuntu kernel
[22:20] <x-X-x>  bash Desktop/pbsetup.run
[22:20] <x-X-x> Desktop/pbsetup.run: Desktop/pbsetup.run: cannot execute binary file
[22:20] <rodolfo> nickrud: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49553/
[22:20] <treetop> jack_sparrow: disktop did exist. i powered down, re-powered and booted. same problem. neat huh?
[22:20] <JonaTh> Finally, sound :) Oh, what joy
[22:21] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: When you've installed it, open Applications>Add/Remove and install StartUp-Manager (or run the command sudo aptitude install startupmanager). Then, you can configure the bootloader in System>Administration>Startup Manager.
[22:22] <Oxi-Clean> cmd10: last time i installed it I could not get passed grub, it ran a memcheck and it never booted the OS
[22:22] <Khisanth> x-X-x: what does 'Desktop/pbsetup.run Desktop/pbsetup.run' say?
[22:22] <nickrud> rodolfo, give me the output of apt-cache policy compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:22] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: Well, that's 'cause your system's messed up... not because grub is causing the problem. Either way, Grub is going to have to be installed.
[22:23] <Dappercom_> zimon: Installation done.. What is next? Reboot?
[22:23] <cdm10> Rufus_: try moving your pointer to the right side of the window... if it turns into a double-arrow, drag to the left. That may expand your hidden user list.
[22:23] <x-X-x> permission denied
[22:23] <lubuntu> xXx make file first executable then put that in pb folder and   sudo ./pbsetup.run
[22:23] <umer> hey guys, i need some help with my bluetooth, i have a generic bluetooth usb dongle plugged into my laptop, i have it paired with my phone, and i can send files from my phone to my laptop, but when i try to browse the phone using "obex://xx:xx:xx:etc"
[22:23] <umer> it doesnt work
[22:24] <Oxi-Clean> cmd10: It never failed a memcheck it passed all of them, i literally let it run all night and in the morning it was still just going back over them.  Any ideas?
[22:24] <rodolfo> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49554/
[22:24] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: What happened when you tried to start Ubuntu?
[22:24] <zimon> Dappercom_, that's the easiest way, i guess :-)
[22:24] <umer> it says /msg nickserv identify whhsposse
[22:25] <Oxi-Clean> cmd10: I would get to GRUB then when I hit 'b' to boot the system it went into memcheck, I've never gotten into Ubuntu, I tried editing the boot commands but to no success
[22:25] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: please type my nick correctly (cdm, not cmd) so it pops up on my desktop.
[22:26] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: So, if you highlighted "Ubuntu" and hit enter... it would go into memtest?
[22:26] <Oxi-Clean> yes
[22:26] <nickrud> rodolfo, I don't know why it says it can't find the file, but since you already have the latest, you can hit  shift-plus  to leave it unchanged. Then continue with the gg install
[22:26] <nickrud> rodolfo, deal with it later
[22:26] <Oxi-Clean> cdm10: it had that in the commands to be executed
[22:27] <rodolfo> nickrud: its ok
[22:27] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: So, you edited the bootloader and that messed it up?
[22:27] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: or was that how it was to start...
[22:27] <Oxi-Clean> cdm10: thats how it was setup by default
[22:27] <Dappercom_> zimon: no difference.... :(
[22:28] <geekunit> Is there an Ubuntu version of Windows Movie Maker?  I just need a program to cut video files
[22:28] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: strange... but there's no way to load Ubuntu without a bootloader (meaning grub or lilo), so there's no way to install without a bootloader. The bootloader isn't just to allow you to select from multiple OS's.
[22:28] <khelll> what to do to have media player extension for firefox???
[22:28] <Oxi-Clean> cdm10: i'm going to try to reinstall and I still have problems I'll come back.  thank you
[22:28] <cdm10> Oxi-Clean: sorry I couldn't solve your problem...
[22:28] <x-X-x> but where is the gui that opened .run before ?
[22:28] <Oxi-Clean> cdm10: this way I have the specific boot commands infront of me
[22:29] <cdm10> khelll: there should be one (the totem Firefox plugin) installed by default.
[22:29] <khaotik_> can anyone help me fix my machine???
[22:29] <kinglet> Hi everbody, how can I turnoff the Ubuntu Bip Sound? I mean when I press a wrong key this BIP sound playin...
[22:29] <kinglet> ?
[22:30] <cdm10> kinglet: go to System>Preferences>Sound and go to the System Beep tab... disable that.
[22:30] <Dappercom_> zimon: It does't even detect sound card... There is no plugs and sliders in ALSA mixer etc...
[22:30] <ozzloy> what's a good web gallery server?
[22:30] <rodolfo> nickrud: is there some site to download this file..?
[22:31] <nickrud> rodolfo, packages.ubuntu.com , good Idea. I'm looking at some similar errors on google
[22:31] <kinglet> cdm10, tnx but can u tell me which of these?
[22:31] <kinglet> cdm10, ahan I got it
[22:31] <cdm10> kinglet: ok :)
[22:31] <khaotik_> i cant save my graphic settings. can anyone help???
[22:31] <kinglet> cdm10, thank u so much
[22:31] <cdm10> kinglet: np
[22:32] <khelll> am using firefox and i got "click here to download plugin" and it redirected me to windows media player
[22:32] <kinglet> cdm10, I have a question about irssi console for IRC, I do sudo apt-get install irssi , but I cant find it in my Ubuntu
[22:32] <zimon> Dappercom_, ok .. can you give me the output of grep -i codec /proc/asound/card*/codec*
[22:32] <shade052> i am using 7.10 running on amd64. between the time i select ubuntu on GRUB and the time login displays on screen, the monitor goes crazy. behaves as if its not getting any signal from CPU.
[22:33] <cdm10> kinglet: have you tried opening a terminal and typing irssi?
[22:33] <kinglet> cdm10, can u explain me more?
[22:33] <ozzloy> i have my own server, and a bunch of pictures i want to share, any suggestions?
[22:33] <ozzloy> i want to host the pictures on my own server
[22:33] <kinglet> cdm10, ahaan :)) I got it again
[22:33] <cdm10> kinglet: go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type irssi and hit enter at the prompt
[22:34] <ozzloy> set up some gallery server
[22:34] <nickrud> rodolfo, read http://www.forumdebian.com.br/anterior-topico-4665.html&sid=242e8cd62bc10db86b372702b722b7b0 it looks like this guy has the same error, but there's too much for me to follow
[22:34] <kinglet> cdm10, tnx again
[22:34] <Dappercom_> zimon: umm... it would not be easy if its long... but ill try
[22:34] <ozzloy> any suggestions on gallery server is much appreciated
[22:34] <zimon> Dappercom_, no, it's one line
[22:34] <khaotik_> i am unable to create new x.config.backup
[22:35] <cdm10> ozzloy: try the package gallery2
[22:35] <cdm10> ozzloy: I've never tried it, but it looks promising.
[22:35] <shade052> i am using 7.10 running on amd64. between the time i select ubuntu on GRUB and the time login displays on screen, the monitor goes crazy. behaves as if its not getting any signal from CPU.
[22:35] <ozzloy> cdm10: thanks
[22:37] <drgeb> is there a way to make Awm go in a circle ?
[22:37] <boo> how can i resize a ntfs partition using a GUI?
[22:37] <cdm10> boo: boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD and go to System>Administration>Gnome Partition Editor
[22:37] <khaotik_> how can i fix my nvidia
[22:37] <Dappercom_> zimon: asound directory does not exist  i.e. no such file or directory :)
[22:37] <nickrud> !alternate
[22:37] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[22:37] <rodolfo> nickrud: that guy didnt success to get  files related to " gsfonts-x11 sun-java5-jre" installed in his machine
[22:37] <cdm10> boo: you can install gparted into normal Ubuntu... but it's less risky if nothing's mounted, as in the livecd.
[22:38] <Pir8> I just added another drive to my linux machine. How can I make it automatically mount and read/write for all users ?
[22:38] <kinglet> cdm10: how I can register a channel in freenode?
[22:38] <zimon> Dappercom_, oh .. that's a problem. what about lspci | grep -i audio ?
[22:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, towards the end, it looked like he was thanking for being told about  apt-get -f install
[22:38] <stiggan> Pir8: Add it to fstab I think
[22:38] <boo> cdm10, gparted cant resize ntfs partitions
[22:38] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes, that is what i was gonna ask you
[22:38] <cdm10> kinglet: you can join and create any channel... but you need to learn how to use chanserv to properly set it up.
[22:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, so try it :)
[22:38] <che_frisco> does anybody know how I can create a slipstream install in ubuntu? Is there a program like nlite for windows available out there?
[22:38] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i boot ubuntu from USB?
[22:39] <cdm10> boo: It certainly can... it's what I used to resize mine. Check the partition for errors first, that may help.
[22:39] <Pir8> stiggan, ok
[22:39] <stiggan> Pi8, /etc/fstab that is
[22:39] <Khisanth> d0lph1nK1ng: do you know if your system can boot from USB?
[22:39] <Slart> che_frisco: what would you like to add? packages?
[22:39] <boo> in the file menu of gparted, i go to features, and there a NOT AVAILABLE for everythingexcept detecct on NTFS
[22:39] <d0lph1nK1ng> Khisanth, yes, i enabled it in my sony vaio bios settings
[22:39] <boo> that being said, i can't boot the partition
[22:39] <cdm10> boo: That's strange... try it from the LiveCD. I'm positive it lets you resize NTFS.
[22:40] <Slart> cdm10, boo: you don't have to install ntfs-3g or something first?
[22:40] <kinglet> how I can register a channel in freenode?
[22:40] <boo> I have that
[22:40] <rodolfo> nickrud: well i downloaded a deb file named "compizconfig-settings-manager_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_all" and when double clicked on it, it says "there is a newer version already installed"
[22:40] <cdm10> kinglet: did you not read my answer?
[22:40] <nexyon> is there an app which compares directories/files by file-size and not content like diff?! or is there a switch for diff?
[22:40] <boo> I can read/write to the drive but I can't resize it
[22:40] <d0lph1nK1ng> Khisanth, i have the .iso and a 1 GB usb drive
[22:40]  * Creed is away: Mmmmm donut...
[22:40] <cdm10> boo: have you tried it from the LiveCD?
[22:40] <che_frisco> Slart: I'm actually trying to make an XP install cd, but I need to slipstream some drivers for a SATA hd. It currently looks like i can only do this with windows
[22:40] <Dappercom_> zimon: Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01).
[22:40] <`Matir> Anyone know of a series of smartphone that synchronizes well with Linux?
[22:40] <cdm10> !away | Creed
[22:40] <ubotu> Creed: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[22:40] <boo> cdm10, i can't boot to the livecd
[22:40] <Slart> boo, cdm10: I have green ticks on all features for ntfs here
[22:40] <Creed> i didnt change my nick!
[22:40] <cdm10> `Matir: Palm devices work well, but they suck...
[22:40] <kinglet> cdm10: sry i didnt see
[22:41] <nickrud> rodolfo, what does sudo apt-get -f install say?
[22:41] <kinglet> cdm10: can u plz tell me again :( sry
[22:41] <Creed> blame xchat, its the default behavior ><
[22:41] <`Matir> cdm10, anything work well all around?
[22:41] <cdm10> kinglet: just joining the channel will create it, but you need to learn how to use chanserv correctly to properly "register" it.
[22:41] <raxor> B-rabbit: I got it working... it was a perms problem
[22:41] <boo> Slart, cdm10 i have been having problems with this drive....i cant boot from it and grub doesnt detect it
[22:41] <Pir8> quick someone who uses virtualbox tell me what key is it to get out of seamless mode ?
[22:41] <cdm10> `Matir: I have a Palm, so I'm not familiar with anything else.
[22:41] <raxor> thanks for the help!
[22:41] <Slart> che_frisco: ah...I have no idea really.. but you can build install cd's using jogdo for debian..perhaps ubuntu has something similar
[22:41] <cdm10> kinglet: type /msg chanserv help for help.
[22:42] <kinglet> cdm10: tnx so much
[22:42] <Slart> che_frisco: sorry.. jigdo is the name of the software
[22:42] <cdm10> boo: It may be corrupt... do you have a Windows CD? You may be able to use the recovery console on the CD to fix errors on it.
[22:42] <che_frisco> Slart: Awesome, I'll look into it
[22:42] <Slart> boo: is it broken? everything attached alright?
[22:42] <rodolfo> nickrud: "compizconfig-settings-manager is already the newest version"
[22:42] <DraconPern> anyone here w/ xdmcp expericne?
[22:42] <boo> Slart, it's a laptop. cdm10  been there, done that many times
[22:42] <nexyon> is there an app which compares directories/files by file-size and not content like diff?! or is there a switch for diff?
[22:42] <boo> Can anyone help me with a booting problem i'm having?  I can't boot my windows partition, but I can see it in linux and i know grub is pointing to the right place.
[22:42] <boo> i'm guessing the two problems are related
[22:43] <nickrud> rodolfo, you're seeing why I stay away from outside repos, they screw things up
[22:43] <cdm10> boo: At this point your only option may be to just get all the data off of it and reinstall Windows or something.
[22:43] <d0lph1nK1ng> Khisanth, do i need to extract the .iso to the USB drive or make a 750MB partition?
[22:43] <boo> cdm10, thats why im trying to resize it, there isnt enough free space in / for me to put everything
[22:43] <Slart> boo: well.. if grub doesn't detect it.. then something is very wrong indeed.. I have no idea how to even start troubleshooting a drive if you can't detect it
[22:43] <BHSPitMonkey> Slart, jigdo is a bittorrent competitor...
[22:43] <Glam> how do i boot my dvd/cd-rw drive first on my acer laptop so i can run the livecd?
[22:43] <rodolfo> nickrud: (linux-newbie)
[22:43] <boo> Slart, i have no problems detecting it in ubuntu, though
[22:43] <cdm10> boo: Resizing a corrupt NTFS partition can only end in destruction of data.
[22:44] <cdm10> boo: You may want to look into getting an external HD to back it up to.
[22:44] <Slart> BHSPitMonkey: oh? sure? I thought it was used to build install cd's for debian..
[22:44] <Glam> it's a bit different with vista [has only done it with xp]
[22:44] <DraconPern> boo: get pertpe
[22:44] <nickrud> rodolfo, lots of years, and still scared of 3d party repos :)
[22:44] <boo> DraconPern, what's that?
[22:44] <BHSPitMonkey> Slart, stands for Jigsaw Downloader
[22:44] <rodolfo> nickrud: i see ^^
[22:44] <DraconPern> boo: windows rescue disk
[22:44] <boo> DraconPern, it's not in ubuntu's repos
[22:44] <boo> oh
[22:45] <BHSPitMonkey> "Jigdo is a tool for distributing and obtaining Debian ISOs in an easy, fast and very efficient manner."  <- Slart
[22:45] <rodolfo> nickrud: and i have one question
[22:45] <Blinkiz> Am looking for a ISCSI sollution. Is it possible within ubuntu 7.10?
[22:45] <nickrud> rodolfo sure. I'm not done yet, just at a roadblock
[22:45] <boo> google for pertpe doesn't do anything
[22:45] <d0lph1nK1ng> how do i install ubuntu to hard drive from a bootable USB stick?
[22:45] <Slart> BHSPitMonkey: yes.. i'm looking on the debian site now.. silly people.. why not use torrents then..
[22:45] <BHSPitMonkey> Slart, I guess it's kind of both.
[22:45] <DraconPern> boo: bertpe
[22:45] <rodolfo> nickrud: if you guys know that these "outside" repos represent damage to the system, so why does it come 'embedded' on ubuntu?
[22:45] <raxor> did anyone else notice that google was defaulting to google.co.jp today?
[22:45] <cdm10> boo, DraconPern: bart, not bert
[22:45] <BHSPitMonkey> Slart, it does actually assemble the ISO by downloading .debs from a list
[22:45] <zimon> Dappercom_, have you tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11381
[22:46] <cdm10> raxor: must be your IP address
[22:46] <raxor> interesting
[22:46] <nickrud> rodolfo, embeded? You mean, allowable?
[22:46] <rodolfo> nickrud: i mean, if they're dangerous, than users shouldnt be supposed to enable it
[22:46] <rodolfo> nickrud: yes, exactly
[22:46] <x-X-x> i keep having the same problem whenever i hide windows to show dekstop using the button at the bottom left side of the screen all windows get hidden the they disappear when i click the bar
[22:46] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, i followed instructions on www.pendrivelinux.com for gutsy and it works great dont have the exact url though thats the website
[22:46] <raxor> cdm10: I am on my father in law's router... which is in the us in california.. should I be worried?
[22:46] <cdm10> raxor: Also, it could have been your cookies.
[22:47] <Slart> BHSPitMonkey: ah... so the debian people aren't that silly after all. =)
[22:47] <devin_> hey everyone i installed a version of second life that isn't current, i have downloaded the i686 linux files from their website, but it doesn't seem to come with anything that i can compile or install, only a couple of .so files, and some directories like plugins/preferences/etc.
[22:47] <nickrud> rodolfo, that's how developers share stuff, and not all of them are badly made. Canonical even hosts some, but they're vetted first.
[22:47] <raxor> yeah, I am not sure, but the cookies seemed to update themselves and it is fixed now
[22:47] <raxor> it happend on two computers
[22:47] <devin_> could someone please help me out with installing the current version
[22:47] <d0lph1nK1ng> avis, i only saw howto install ubuntu ONTO a USB drive, not FROM a usb drive
[22:47] <cdm10> raxor: heh, probably not... I think if you accidentally visit any other country's google, it'll keep going there until you clear your cookies.
[22:47] <d0lph1nK1ng> avis, should i hav the .iso extracted by winzip onto the usb or do i need a special program?
[22:47] <Dappercom_> zimon: Yes, and more complicated things too :D
[22:47] <raxor> ol
[22:47] <raxor> lol
[22:48] <raxor> thanks
[22:48] <buggeredfstab> I am having a problem with WINE, when I click on something in its menu, it acts like it is starting to load, and then after a few moments, the load fails.
[22:48] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, yes and the installation on that link is the equivalent of live cd that you can install from plus it has the option to save changes of live session
[22:48] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know a gui for mencoder
[22:48] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, i used a burned iso to get the files though you could probably mount the image and do it that way
[22:48] <rodolfo> nickrud: so far i realized we have a problem with an 'universal' repo...that means that this repo is official. isnt it?
[22:48] <tifine> i want to change the appearnce of my ubuntu, i need to get some crazy & nice themes
[22:48] <tifine> if somebody have it please tell me
[22:48] <cdm10> UBUNTUISLOVED: Not a general one, but I know one for DVDs.
[22:48] <nickrud> rodolfo yes that one is official.
[22:48] <cdm10> tifine: go to http://gnome-look.org
[22:48] <UBUNTUISLOVED> whats that?
[22:49] <d0lph1nK1ng> avis, does my partition on the USB stick need to be 750 MB, or is a 1GB fine?
[22:49] <cdm10> UBUNTUISLOVED: acidrip
[22:49] <BHSPitMonkey> Slart, che_frisco was actually looking for a tool to make an XP install CD, which seems silly anyway :)  I don't Jigdo is up for the task
[22:49] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, the partition needs to be 750MB then according to the instructions on the site it needs another ext2 partition.  its simple just follow the directions carefully.
[22:49] <boo> Is there any reason that a partition wouldn only become visible after ubuntu is booted, and not in, say, grub?
[22:49] <x-X-x_> does someone know why everytime when i hide my windows using the button on the bottom left side of the screen that that when i click the tab for the window or when i press the button again my windows disappear ?
[22:50] <basti> can I delete the files in /var/log ?
[22:50] <nickrud> rodolfo, try this.  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*   , that will delete the lists of software from each repository. running apt-get update will re-download them.
[22:50] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, it fits fine ona 1 GB flash drive
[22:50] <Glam> how do i make the livecd boot before vista, i have an acer laptop
[22:50] <avis> Glam, tell your laptop to boot from cdrom
[22:50] <UBUNTUISLOVED> will acidrip convert mov's properly?
[22:50] <avis> Glam, in bios settings
[22:50] <Glam> i don't see a setting for it
[22:50] <tifine> cdm10: these r just only wallpapers i need themes
[22:50] <devin_> could someone please help me figure out what to do with the files i downloaded from second life?  it seems that it isn't a straightforward ./configure make make install routine
[22:50] <cdm10> UBUNTUISLOVED: You should look for something else, acidrip is really for DVDs
[22:50] <devin_> im not sure what do do with what i got
[22:50] <cdm10> tifine: no, they're themes. Explore the site.
[22:50] <x-X-x_> noone can help me ?
[22:51] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i need to just convert mov's to dvd format vob's
[22:51] <Glam> it only gives me the option of vista basic and something else
[22:51] <rodolfo> nickrud: rm: impossible to remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': its a directory
[22:51] <MenZa> devin_: what type of file is it?
[22:51] <zimon> Dappercom_, so .. i guess you need to build it manually. wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.15.tar.bz2
[22:51] <d0lph1nK1ng> avis, do i just copy the .iso to the usb drive or do i extract the contents using winzip?
[22:51] <x-X-x_>  does someone know why everytime when i hide my windows using the button on the bottom left side of the screen that that when i click the tab for the window or when i press the button again my windows disappear ?
[22:51] <nickrud> rodolfo, that's fine, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[22:52] <aguitel> i wish jag sameaj for everybody
[22:52] <zimon> Dappercom_, then follow the instructions at http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-cs46xx
[22:52] <king-kong> Hi here! I have an external hard drive mounted on /media/ for which I cannot change the permission when using     sudo chmod 777 WD\ USB\ 2
[22:52] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, the instructions assume you have a running ubuntu machine and a 1GB flash drive.  i did not have to extract the iso though you could i'm sure or maybe someone can help you mount the image
[22:52] <MenZa> !fstab | king-kong
[22:52] <ubotu> king-kong: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[22:52] <MenZa> king-kong: try reading the above link
[22:52] <rodolfo> nickrud: rm: impossible to remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*': file or directory does not exist.
[22:52] <d0lph1nK1ng> avis, ok great thx for ur help.  happy holidays
[22:53] <king-kong> MenZa: thanks
[22:53] <nickrud> rodolfo, ok, there were no files in there. That's fine. Now sudo apt-get update
[22:53] <tifine> cdm10: i downloaded them but how should i install them
[22:53] <avis> d0lph1nK1ng, i used a good burn to do mine no scratches.  it was either that or find help i might not get here on how to mount the image and getting confused.. yes merry christmas to you too
[22:53] <cdm10> tifine: go into System>Preferences>Appearance, pick the appropriate tab, and drag them in
[22:53] <tifine> cdm10: there is a gtkrc file there
[22:53] <cdm10> tifine: don't open them.
[22:53] <MenZa> devin_: It's probably a binary installer of some sort---chmod +x <filename> ; sudo ./<filename> is my guess.
[22:54] <dre1> Hello, when using the aptitude to install flashplugin-nonfree, it says the md5 sum does not match and refuses to install flash.  Is there an error in the repositories or what?
[22:54] <tifine> cdm10: no it is wrong format
[22:54] <rodolfo> nickrud: >update in progress<
[22:54] <cdm10> tifine: is it a tar.gz or tar.bz2 file?
[22:54] <tifine> tar.gz
[22:54] <cdm10> tifine: and dragging it in doesn't work?
[22:54] <erUSUL> !brokenflash | dre1
[22:54] <ubotu> dre1: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:54] <cdm10> tifine: can you send me a link to where you found the theme on the site?
[22:54] <MenZa> dre1: please see the topic
[22:55] <MenZa> :)
[22:55] <tifine> cdm10: ok
[22:55] <cdm10> still broken? ugh
[22:55] <MenZa> Indeed.
[22:55] <tifine> cdm10:  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blubuntu-Aurora?content=62176
[22:55] <dre1> thanks ubotu, erUSUL, and MenZa
[22:55] <Blinkiz> Am looking for a ISCSI sollution. Is it possible within ubuntu 7.10?
[22:55] <Blinkiz> server iscsi
[22:56] <cdm10> tifine: that needs a special engine to be installed... try another theme.
[22:56] <dre1> so if the installation is broken should I install it manually or wait for them to fix it, what's the ETA on the repair?
[22:56] <tifine> cdm10:  let me check
[22:56] <nickrud> dre1, it's been over 2 weeks, no end in sight
[22:57] <dre1> wow, that's not like the team to just leave a gaping problem in the repositories like that
[22:57] <cdm10> tifine: I have to go now, but there are probably a lot of people here who can help you with themes.
[22:57] <cdm10> dre1: I dunno why they haven't fixed it yet... it doesn't seem like a huge job.
[22:57] <dre1> I guess I'll just install it manuall then, that simple ^^
[22:57] <Slart> dre1: it's not their fault I guess... adobe changed something on their site
[22:57] <rodolfo> nickrud: done.
[22:57] <tifine> cdm10:  is this gonna work  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum+Cyan+%26+Magenta?content=71798
[22:57] <cdm10> dre1: I mean, they probably want to avoid being hasty.
[22:57] <rodolfo> nickrud: and there is a warning
[22:58] <lubuntu> what it's better admin gui like sudo mc ? to ubuntu
[22:58] <Dappercom_> zimon: which of these i have to follow? :S
[22:58] <cdm10> tifine: try it, it's a 22 KByte download.
[22:58] <nickrud> rodolfo, paste it please
[22:58] <dre1> that's true, cdm10, but I am slightly disappointed in them by this
[22:58] <tifine> k
[22:58] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> Hi, I think I have found a bug in e2fsck. I think I have a broken disk in an lvm array consisting of 4 disks, but e2fsck chrashes(or so I believe) when used on the lvm virtual partition. I've also been wondering if it is as NCQ error
[22:58] <dre1> Oh well it's still my favorite distro out there
[22:59] <rodolfo> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49556/
[22:59] <magic_ninja> !rpm
[22:59] <zimon> Dappercom_, erm .. there are choices?
[22:59] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[22:59] <FFighter> hey folks, while playing around with df, I've found a file system mounted on  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile called lrm... does anyone know what is this for and why it is there ?
[23:00] <Dappercom_> zimon: Oh, i try quick installation? :D
[23:00] <tritium> dre1: it's an Adobe change, not anything to do with ubuntu
[23:00] <nickrud> rodolfo, I totally missed the cdrom in your sources.list , comment that out.
[23:00] <zimon> Dappercom_, right
[23:00] <rodolfo> nickrud: ok its my fault i should have told you
[23:00] <DraconPern> is there a howto for freenx + 7.10?
[23:00] <phrantik> ffighter: i think that is a kernel img
[23:00] <FFighter> phrantik, do you know why is it mounted there ?
[23:01] <nickrud> rodolfo, no, I should have been looking harder, I was only looking for universe
[23:01] <rodolfo> nickrud: i used a program called APTonCD that just backs up downloaded and installed programs, so you dont need to REdownload them and you can directly install...
[23:01] <dre1> tritium: well either way they should update the checksum, or if adobe is responsible for the entire issue, I'm not surprised at that at all
[23:01] <nickrud> rodolfo, nice tool, isn't it
[23:01] <dre1> I've got very low expectations from adobe
[23:01] <dre1> :-P
[23:01] <rodolfo> nickrud: yeah
[23:01] <phrantik> ffighter: no clue... i just recognize that as part of the path that ihad to use when reconfiguring my grub loader
[23:02] <shade052> just curious. where does Rhythmbox store the album art or lyrics it downloads from internet?
[23:02] <FFighter> phrantik, must be something related to the boot process then... thank you :)
[23:02] <dre1> well thanks guys
[23:02] <FFighter> shade052, maybe to cache then ?
[23:02] <manawyddan> Hi everyone! Does anyone know a good tutorial of how to config Mutt with IMAP?
[23:02] <phrantik> ffighter: look in /boot
[23:03] <phrantik> there is something with a similar file name
[23:03] <manawyddan> a Gmail account for exemple?
[23:03] <dre1> have a merry christmas to all you who celebrate it and happy holidays to everyone else
[23:03] <Glam> how can i get to the bios screen on an acer laptop?
[23:03] <shade052> FFighter i did not ask why. i asked where?
[23:04] <nickrud> manawyddan, http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/
[23:04] <FFighter> shade052, oh sorry then :)
[23:04] <Khisanth> Glam: there should be a message on your boot screen and if not that should definitely be in your manaual, you usually have to press F2 or Del when it's booting
[23:04] <Glam> ok
[23:05] <rodolfo> nickrud: now, trying to force install
[23:05] <evan__> i installed the cube but i only a desktop wich i can move i dont see a cube
[23:05] <nickrud> rodolfo, just    sudo apt-get -f install    , nothing extra
[23:05] <nickrud> rodolfo, -f in this case means fix
[23:06] <manawyddan> nickrud: Thanks
[23:06] <zimon> shade052, album art is saved in .gnome2/rhythmbox/covers .. and lyrics .. uhm .. saw that dir this morning ..
[23:06] <tom3> how do i install iwlwifi on ubuntu gutsy?
[23:06] <rodolfo> nickrud: hm..no new package none neither updated nor removed
[23:07] <Dappercom_> zimon: compiling fails... lots of errors...
[23:07] <sammyF> Hey there.I have a weird problem : I have to use the nVidia beta drivers (169.04) as the standard one crash my comp (there's an extensive thread about this problem on the forums Now. everytime I reboot, I end up in GDM failsafe mode. stopping GDM, starting the nvidia driver install but quitting just after accepting the license, and then restarting GDM fixes it everytime. I'd still like to boot normally though. any idea?
[23:07] <nickrud> rodolfo, still have the aptitude window open?
[23:07] <magic_ninja> does anyone know of a site to get the most up-to-date version of audacious in a package
[23:07] <rodolfo> nickrud: yup
[23:07] <nickrud> rodolfo, do the gg
[23:07] <zimon> Dappercom_, pastebin the output somewhere
[23:07] <erUSUL> sammyF: have you uninstalled the prepackaged drivers?
[23:08] <rodolfo> nickrud: the same error msg
[23:08] <rodolfo> nickrud: *sigh*
[23:08] <phrantik> evan_ go to general options in the advanced editor, then click desktop size, then change horizontal virtual size to 4
[23:09] <sammyF> erUSUL: I did. although, now that you mention it : when I tried reenabling compiz, it asked me for my admin pw, which didn't seem right. sigh ... good call, going to check whether they were reinstalled
[23:09] <nickrud> rodolfo, ditto. Im gonna eat something, be back soon
[23:09] <Hammer89> is Wubi not a recommended method for installing Ubuntu?
[23:09] <erUSUL> !wubi
[23:09] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[23:09] <rodolfo> nickrud: me too, brb...bom apetite! ;)
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Hammer89: It is a method, but not a good one
[23:12] <World> Greetings and Merry Christmas all! Question= Is there anything that plays midi music embedded in web pages for Ubuntu?
[23:12] <Rafeiro> yo :)
[23:12] <DraconPern> need help with xdmcp
[23:12] <erUSUL> sammyF: also once you checked that nvidia-glx-* is uninstalled go edit /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and comment out everything refering to nvidia
[23:12] <Rafeiro> dudes i just got x64 ubuntu, but theres no flash movies neither on firefox, or epiphany
[23:12] <Rafeiro> i already installed the packages that bring it
[23:12] <erUSUL> !brokenflash | Rafeiro
[23:12] <Rafeiro> but doesnt run on x64 arquitecture
[23:12] <ubotu> Rafeiro: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:12] <sammyF> erUSUL: indeed .. 100.14.19 are installed
[23:12] <Rafeiro> any turn around?
[23:13] <sammyF> erUSUL: thanks!
[23:13] <Hammer89> Jack_Sparrow: Hmmm... are the reasons for why it's not a good reason complicated?
[23:13] <Slart> World: what a horrible horrible thing to ask.. ... ... you should be ashamed of yourself.. ... but yes.. I think there is
[23:13] <zimon> Dappercom_, can you paste the output in www.paste2.org/new-paste or whatever your preferred pastebin is?
[23:13] <Hammer89> *good method... sorry
[23:13] <shade052> when you create a account using "useradd user_name", the account cant login from the login window as the account created using the  system>administration>users and groups can.why?
[23:13] <gfrw> Hello, I have a question: In which way I could deactivate the automatic freedb-request when I put any kind of media-file e.g. in my CD-device? Can you give me any tip, where I could get more information?
[23:13] <World> slart maybe but I'm new to ubuntu
[23:13] <Slart> World: I think there is some kind of plugin... can't remember the name.. but it makes all those..*shudder* old pages with midi background music work =)
[23:14] <Dappercom_> zimon: takes some time :D
[23:14] <zimon> Dappercom_, why? did you close the console? :-)
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Hammer89: I read a rather detailed report that if things go wrong you can trash your ntfs partition... Not just the file/folder for Wubi ubuntu..
[23:14] <Slart> World: midi music on webpages is just as bad on windows as it is on ubuntu =)
[23:14] <World> slart thanks. Some of us old farts still use midi.
[23:14] <Hammer89> Jack_Sparrow: Yikes... thanks for letting me know
[23:14] <Rafeiro> erUSUL, anyway to go around?
[23:14] <Rafeiro> i cant watch my pron :)
[23:14] <erUSUL> shade052: you should use adduser; useradd is too low level and you have to do manually many things...
[23:15] <sammyF> erUSUL: do you know of any way to make Ubuntu think that the proprietary drivers are installed? because I guess that if I disable compiz for a reason or another  and then try to reenable it later on, Ubuntu will bitch about the drivers not being there again :/
[23:15] <Slart> World: oh.. don't get me wrong.. the midi format is good.. I just hate web pages that insist on playing music
[23:15] <chairman> hmm, I thought webpages with midi files was hunted down and killed a long time ago....
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hammer89: Feel free to use it...  ir read up on it for yourself and decide
[23:15] <Slart> World: you'll probably want to use timidity for playing midi's on ubuntu
[23:15] <erUSUL> Rafeiro: the forums threath on the factoid may offer one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[23:15] <Slart> !timidity
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timidity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <Slart> !midi
[23:15] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[23:15] <Rafeiro> tks ;-)
[23:15] <erUSUL> sammyF: dunno sorry
[23:15] <World> slart me too, that's why I create them. Annoyance brings attention. lol
[23:16] <Slart> ah.. there you are, world.. look at that link from ubotu
[23:16] <sammyF> erUSUL: no matter. you helped me a great deal already :)
[23:16] <Dappercom_> zimon: yes, lost the output...
[23:16] <phrantik> World: ur not lookin to good :-)
[23:16] <GMoo> question: does ubuntu come with divx codecs installed
[23:17] <World> phrantik thanks lol
[23:17] <shade052> erUSUL: can you explain what you mean when you say "too low level".
[23:18] <Dappercom_> zimon: You may not understand this because it contains finnish language :D
[23:18] <sammyF> GMoo: no. but if you try to read a divx, you'll get a nice message asking you if you want to install them.
[23:18] <waremperor> question : Trying to connect n70 mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth, link is working with hdcitool, but wammu don't want to link... why ?
[23:18] <jbinder> .wc
[23:18] <king-kong> Hi here again. I know the ropes for fstab. It mounts my floppy and CD-ROM on startup. I want it to also mount my 2nd hard drive (that used to be an external one until I ripped it out of the casing). How do I find out what Ubuntu sees it as ?
[23:18] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> shade052: I think useradd only adds the appropriate line in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, while adduser does some more
[23:18] <sammyF> GMoo: and then if you answer yes, it will install the codecs for you
[23:19] <zimon> Dappercom_, haha .. i want to start learning finnish in february or so :-)
[23:19] <thex> hi
[23:19] <erUSUL> shade052: you have to specify *everything* related to the user creation on command line uid gid home dir etc i bet you have to create the home dir manually too... it is meant to be called from scripts and the like
[23:19] <World> OK I have TiMidity++ and it plays excilent on comand, however when I open a webpage with midi embedded it does not play.
[23:19] <erUSUL> shade052: man useradd
[23:19] <shade052> Vertigo[ubuntu]: can i please know what that extra is?
[23:19] <thex> got a problem kompiling a kernel could somebody pls help me?
[23:20] <GMoo> ty samiam
[23:20] <Slart> World: perhaps this one will help.. it's not the one I remember.. but it says it will play IE only bgsound midis https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1765
[23:20] <GMoo> ty sammyF
[23:20] <king-kong> In other words, how do I know what to put on the 1st column in fstab
[23:20] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> shade052: as erUSUL wrote, man useradd and adduser, I don't know the spesifics
[23:20] <erUSUL> !uuid | king-kong
[23:20] <ubotu> king-kong: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[23:20] <shade052> erUSUL: sounds sensible. roger
[23:21] <thex> nobody?
[23:21] <king-kong> erUSUL: I'll get reading on that, thanks
[23:21] <shade052> we had a group of 10 computers installed all with ssh client. Now any one can log into the other comp through ssh. To stop that we either deny access through /etc/hosts or close the ssh daemon . can the denial to this service be done to specific users from within ssh?
[23:21] <erUSUL> king-kong: no problem
[23:21] <Slart> !hi | thex
[23:21] <ubotu> thex: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:21] <sammyF> GMoo: same with all standard proprietary codecs really : they are not there by default for legal reasons .. but Ubuntu is rather helpful when you appear to need them
[23:21] <thex> hi
[23:21] <GMoo> copy that sammyF
[23:21] <waremperor> question : Trying to connect n70 mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth, link is working with hdcitool, but wammu don't want to link... why ?
[23:21] <GMoo> i am now watching a divx on my ubuntu system
[23:21] <World> slart thanks
[23:22] <sammyF> GMoo: enjoy ;)
[23:22] <Slart> World: you're welcome
[23:22] <Khisanth> shade052: they would have to have accounts on all those computers as well
[23:22] <GMoo> now sammyF: i have a shitload of mp3s --- i have used the default music player as well as the other music player offered from add/remove programs --- both are giving me trouble when adding music over the network
[23:22] <sammyF> nighty and merry xmas a day off everybody
[23:22] <Khisanth> shade052: now why would people have accounts on systems they aren't supposed to access? :)
[23:22] <sammyF> or perhaps not
[23:22] <sammyF> GMoo: how so?
[23:22] <atarinox> can somebody tell me where in my filesystem the terminal app is located?
[23:23] <Khisanth> depends on which one you are using
[23:23] <manawyddan> nickrud: Sorry i'm having another problem, i've sent an e-mail to test the configuration. Gmail received it, it's in the sent e-mails folder, but for some reason the e-mail wasn't sent, i've sent the e-mail to a Yahoo account of mine, do you know what might be causing this?
[23:23] <sammyF> GMoo: do you mean LAN or internet?
[23:23] <thex> Slart, could you help me?
[23:23] <waremperor> GMoo, I'd the same problem, installing some basic codec is helpfull and is annoying this proble
[23:24] <GMoo> no no
[23:24] <GMoo> just adding the mp3s
[23:24] <GMoo> amarok and rythmbox
[23:24] <GMoo> are crappy
[23:25] <GMoo> is there anything that is cleaner to play my music
[23:25] <zimon> Dappercom_, did i miss something .. or haven't you pasted yet?
[23:25] <GMoo> i'm only running it on a 450 mhz PIII
[23:25] <GMoo> 512 mb ram
[23:25] <shade052> Khisanth: figure this. all the comps were installed togther from a single computer. all the root passwds were set to same value. all the 10 users login as root on there own consoles... i know given too much power but is it possible?
[23:25] <sammyF> GMoo: hmm using Amarok right now .. but it really depends on what you're looking for. Amarok is great if you want custom random  playlists, and generally want an organized way to manage your music.
[23:26] <Dappercom_> zimon: http://www.paste2.org/p/10995    There are some translations end of the file ;-)
[23:26] <GMoo> sammyF i was using amarok but had trouble adding music over the network ?
[23:26] <sammyF> GMoo: for fast listening of random files, I use audacious
[23:26] <GMoo> sammy: does it have jump to file
[23:26] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> GMoo: if you aren't too afraid of terminals, I'd say cplay is a pretty good player
[23:26] <sammyF> GMoo: yep .. that was my question : what network? LAN?
[23:26] <Slart> thex: sure.. what's the problem
[23:26] <GMoo> yessir sammy f
[23:26] <Glam> i tried loading my livecd, but i got an error
[23:26] <Highlife> Hey does anyone know the command to backup a password protected ftp server with wget?
[23:27] <GMoo> what is the error, Glam
[23:27] <GMoo> vertigo: this is my first day using linux. i have a fear of terminals
[23:27] <magic_ninja> !glib
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <sammyF> GMoo: hmm .. Can't help you much with that I'm afraid .. only one comp here
[23:27] <Glam> ./bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[23:27] <Glam> ignore that period infront of the /
[23:27] <waremperor> question : Trying to connect n70 mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth, link is working with hdcitool, but wammu don't want to link... why ?
[23:27] <sammyF> GMoo: but thanks ... now you reminded me that I wanted to install ubuntu on an old laptop I have upstairs :)
[23:28] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> GMoo: ah, audacious, bmpx, beep-media-player xmms are GUI-programs =)
[23:28] <Slart> Highlife: if I have to guess you're not looking at one command.. it'll probably be wget+50 or more switches =)
[23:28] <GMoo> ty Vertigo[ubuntu]... now i must learn how to install audacious
[23:28] <Glam> this is 7.10 if it matters
[23:28] <mongolai> i'm about to install feisty in a VMWare player. Can I install *without* XOrg and GNOME (ie, just text-mode) ?
[23:29] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> GMoo: aptitude or synaptic
[23:29] <GMoo> suggestions, sammyf
[23:29] <GMoo> what?
[23:29] <GMoo> huh?
[23:29] <sammyF> GMoo: System->Administration->Synaptic
[23:29] <GMoo> i just intsalling linux... burned the .iso from ubuntu
[23:29] <Highlife> Slart: Yeah that's what I was thinking, thats why I came here I figured someone has probably done the same thing and would have it already written up
[23:29] <GMoo> okay i clicke don synpatic package manager, sammyf
[23:29] <zimon> Dappercom_, configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ... seems like you're missing binutils or something
[23:29] <Slart> mongolai: perhaps the alternate or server install iso.. or why not try the small one.. jos?
[23:29] <sammyF> GMoo: actually "Synaptic Package Manager
[23:29] <sammyF> GMoo: use the search button ;)
[23:29] <GMoo> sec, it's loading
[23:30] <Dappercom_> zimon: i just installed xubuntu... could that be :S
[23:30] <Slart> Highlife: well.. I do the same whenever I have to do anything with wget.. or read the manual for half a day
[23:30] <mongolai> Slart: I can try the alternate, but I already have a Feisty disc.
[23:30] <gam3> I have a lvm2 partition and can't get ubunto to see it
[23:30] <Glam> anybody have an idea what it means?
[23:30] <Khisanth> shade052: there is a setting in sshd_config for that, there is also one specifically for root
[23:30] <Dappercom_> zimon: how can i fix this?
[23:30]  * sammyF can picture GMoo's eyes widening at the sheer number of programs in Synaptic ;)
[23:30] <Probey> UBUNTU SUCKS
[23:30] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: have you installed the lvm2 packages?
[23:30] <zimon> Dappercom_, apt-get install build-essential
[23:30] <GMoo> yeah this is pretty wild stuff man
[23:30] <Probey> Does it work on Radeon X1950 Pro ?
[23:30] <arooni-mobile> i just got a pair of motorola bluetooth s9 bluetooth headphones......... how in the world will i hook them up to my t61 laptop with built in bluetooth and gutsy 7.10?? ;p
[23:31] <gam3> yes
[23:31] <sammyF> Probey: truly ... you're a l33t and should only use Gentoo
[23:31] <Slart> mongolai: oh.. well.. I don't think you can install it wihtout installing gnome etc.. you'll probably have to install the whole thing and remove stuff afterwards
[23:31] <Probey> l33t people use winxp tbh
[23:31] <gam3> I just need to have vgchange -ya run
[23:31] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: does'nt work?
[23:31] <sammyF> GMoo: yeah ... just try not ot get into a download frenzy ;)
[23:31] <gam3> in debian /etc/init.d/lvm2 would do this.
[23:31] <Probey> i tried few monthes ago to run it with radeon 9800 pro and all the fonts looked like shit, and couldnt browse the internet without screwing up my eyes.
[23:31] <GMoo> lol okay sooooo audascious
[23:31] <Pici> !language | Probey
[23:31] <ubotu> Probey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:31] <Probey> and yes i did that msstcorefonts shit and all that other bullshit!
[23:31] <Dappercom_> zimon: found something to install...
[23:31] <zimon> Dappercom_, this will take some time ..
[23:32] <mongolai> Slart: hmm. yea, I guess I'll just get the server or something else. Thanks.
[23:32] <jath> ive read about some of the problems with the screen not coming up after opening the laptop lid. but i have the complete opposite problem! i set the power properties to 'blank screen' when lid is shut, but that dosent happen. it goes black for a few seconds and then just lights right back up, even though it is shut
[23:32] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: you've done a lvscan, and a pvscan?
[23:32] <gam3> I am thinking udev only works if the whole drive is lvm?
[23:32] <sammyF> Probey: you might be astonished, but I'd agree that people who think of themselves as a couple of numbers are definitely using Windows ;)
[23:32] <Dappercom_> zimon: it wanted install cd...
[23:32] <Slart> mongolai: look for that new small ubuntu.. it's supposed to be made for vm's.. jeos or something
[23:32] <Linnk> Hi guys :)
[23:32] <gam3> All works if vgchange -ya is run
[23:32] <zimon> Dappercom_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the first line
[23:32] <Probey> sammyF: atleast my eyes stay intact
[23:32] <Glam> ./bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off, help?
[23:33] <Pici> !jeos | mongolai
[23:33] <gumpish> is there any way to navigate through a tar file without extracting it? =(
[23:33] <ubotu> mongolai: JeOS (pronounced "Juice") is Just enough Operating System.  It is an efficient variant of the Ubuntu Server operating system, configured specifically for virtual appliances. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos for more information.
[23:33] <zimon> Dappercom_, and run apt-get update afterwards ..
[23:33] <scguy318> Glam: try booting with all_generic_ide
[23:33] <mongolai> Slart: thanks. looking into that right now!
[23:33] <intelikey> Glam modprobe the correct drivers and mount the root fs  then exit
[23:33] <Slart> mongolai: you're welcome.. and good luck
[23:33] <GMoo> sammyF: do you have AIM?MSN?
[23:33] <sammyF> Probey: you mean, you don't ever actually get to use it due to constant reboots, so you don't strain too much? nice feature!
[23:33] <arooni-mobile> how do i do this:  One can enable Bluetooth by pressing FnF5. If this doesn't work, you can load the ibm_acpi or thinkpad_acpi kernel module and run the following command with root privileges:
[23:33] <gam3> tar -tf filenaem
[23:33] <Linnk> How come that fglrxinfo output looks fine when my cpu still uses 50% cpu when running the gears test app? :)
[23:34] <sammyF> GMoo: yes, but I don't give away my nick, sorry
[23:34] <Probey> sammyF: my winxp is super stable!
[23:34] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: which part?
[23:34] <arooni-mobile> second part scguy318
[23:34] <Slart> sammyF: don't feed it
[23:34] <Probey> and it doesnt hurt you physically, unlike ubuntu.
[23:34] <waremperor> question : Trying to connect n70 mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth, link is working with hdcitool, but wammu don't want to link... why ?
[23:34] <scm> Greetings, could someone sugest a good general chat channel? I does not have to be Ubuntu related but that would be cool too.
[23:34] <GMoo> lol damn
[23:34] <Slart> scm: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:34] <GMoo> i wanted to annoy the crap out of you
[23:34] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: sudo modprobe ibm_acpi or sudo modprobe thinkpad_acpi
[23:34] <sammyF> Probey: actually, I wasn't talking about instability (but now that you mention it ...)
[23:34] <Glam> how would i go about doing that?
[23:34] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: if you've added the appropriate lines to /etc/fstab and it doesn't work, I'm prolly not techsavvy enough to help you
[23:34] <scm> slart: thank you
[23:35] <Glam> i'm booting it off of a livecd
[23:35] <Slart> scm: you're welcome
[23:35] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, do i have to do that everytime i login?  or just 1 time?
[23:35] <sammyF> Slart: sigh .. yep .. I'm afraid I was in "let's get baited" mood
[23:35] <Slart> sammyF: =)
[23:36] <sammyF> anyway ... need to sleep off yesterday's alcohol ... soooo .. nightyyyy
[23:36] <GMoo> peace
[23:36] <ketrox> hi i'm trying to add an acpi event in /etc/acpi/events with event=hotkey ATKD 0000006a action=/sbin/wlan.sh but it doesent work when i press the key
[23:36] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, i get this error: bash: /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth: Permission denied
[23:36] <arooni-mobile>   when i run: [davies] sudo echo "enable" > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth
[23:36] <Dappercom_> zimon: Then try again that compiling?
[23:36] <gam3> Vertigo: I'll see if that add magic.
[23:36] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: looks like that file it mentions does not exist
[23:36] <intelikey> Glam when you get the busybox shell that you described, when trying to boot from hdd   either the root=  has the wrong address in your boot/grub/menu.lst  or you are not loading the propper drivers for the disk/partition/filesystem   it's one of the two.
[23:36] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: the modprobe has to be done at each reboot unless you add the name of the module into /etc/modules
[23:37] <zimon> Dappercom_, after installing build-essential, yes
[23:37] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, i thought it was giving me an error that i just didn't have those files enabled
[23:37] <arooni-mobile> or access ot them
[23:37] <Dappercom_> zimos: yes, ill try
[23:37] <Dappercom_> zimon: its working!
[23:37] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: well, for some reason the bluetooth file in /proc does not exist
[23:37] <intelikey> Glam or do you mean that you get a shell without job control when booting the live CD ?
[23:37] <Glam> yeah
[23:37] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: if you add it correctly, I belive it should be mounted with a mount -a, if all modules and such are in place
[23:38] <arooni-mobile> anyone know how to get my bluetooth working on a t61?
[23:38] <zimon> Dappercom_, nice. i hope that driver will be working, too :-)
[23:38] <Dappercom_> yes, ill hope too :D
[23:38] <Glam> i get that busybox job control when loading from the livecd
[23:38] <Linnk> My fglrxinfo output looks like this http://texticle.net/676
[23:38] <Linnk> Which should be ok according to the guide I followed
[23:39] <scguy318> Glam: try booting with all_generic_ide
[23:39] <xocolate> boa noite
[23:39] <intelikey> Glam bad burn on the iso... or unusual hardware and the kernel isn't finding the drive    is it a usb cd/dvd drive ?
[23:39] <Glam> cd/dvd in the laptop
[23:39] <xocolate> alguem pode me ajudar com um probleminha aqui?
[23:39] <scguy318> !br | xocolate
[23:39] <ubotu> xocolate: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:39] <Glam> it worked with my desktop without the error
[23:40] <scguy318> Glam: try booting with the all_generic_ide kernel option
[23:40] <maxwell3> my mouse is stuck how can i reload the driver from terminal
[23:40] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> maxwell3: you could kill gdm, don't know about killing only mouse though
[23:40] <Dappercom_> zimon: where could i find that alsa-lib package and alsa-utils...?
[23:41] <DWonderly> im running with an ATI X1650 and I got Compiz to work with Xsessions however, everything runs VERY slow and when I try to run something graphic related I get my session restarted. Any ideas how to fix or how to configure it?
[23:41] <snurtle> unplug and plug in
[23:41] <maxwell3> k
[23:41] <intelikey> Glam ok it's hardware related.   probably your lappy has real scsi and when ide-scsi emulation is turned on(which the live CD does) the resulting change in device addressing is confusing the kernel.   maybe check the forums for others that have had the same error.
[23:41] <snurtle> is it a wireless battery operated mouse?
[23:41] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> maxwell3: with a "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and then with start you'll kill and restart X/GDM
[23:41] <maxwell3> no
[23:41] <Glam> ok
[23:41] <snurtle> usb mouse?
[23:41] <maxwell3> yes
[23:41] <zimon> Dappercom_, they should already be installed .. try dpkg -l | grep alsa
[23:42] <arooni-mobile> how do i find out if the module: ibm-acpi is running?
[23:42] <snurtle> i would unplug it and then plug it back and and restart your OS
[23:42] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: lsmod | grep ibm-acpi
[23:42] <snurtle> try it and let us know if it worksOR try and plug it into a different USB port
[23:42] <gam3> Vertigo: No that did not do it.
[23:42] <Fezzler> I have a Belkin F5U109 Serial-to-USB cable connected to my Win CE 2.11 device and Ubuntu.
[23:43] <intelikey> Glam i wont try to walk you through a blind boot on that, because i'm not that familear with the unionfs and casper image that the live cd uses   hope there is an easy fix on the forums or someone else here knows on.
[23:43] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, thanks.  what happens when i do sudo modprobe ibm-acpi ....... and then i run your grep command and i get back nothing
[23:43] <intelikey> one
[23:43] <shade052> any good chat rooms for networking in linux
[23:43] <Fezzler> "lsusb" shows the cable is identified.  What is a simple test I can do to see if data can flow back and forth
[23:43] <Vertigo[ubuntu]> gam3: and you are shure your line in fstab is right?
[23:43] <ck23> hi ppl
[23:44] <volk> how do I find out which package I need to install in order to get a speciffic file?
[23:44] <arooni-mobile> can i install debian packages (like bluez-utils and libs .........) to ubuntu gutsy?
[23:44] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: weird, you probably should check dmesg | tail
[23:44] <tritium> volk: apt-file is useful for that
[23:44] <ck23> i want to setup a static route in network/interfaces. what's the difference between "up route add.." and "post-up route add.."?
[23:44] <gam3> double checking
[23:44] <Dappercom_> zimon: what side of the world do you live? Clock is here 01:44 and i should go to sleep :D
[23:44] <Fezzler> On the Win CE 2.11 I can use PocketDOS and enter "type dl.bat >com1:
[23:44] <intelikey> Fezzler    cat or od <device inode>   for a read on it.
[23:45] <arooni-mobile> scguy318, no mention of the bluetooth thing when i runt htat command.......... any other ideas?
[23:45] <Fezzler> But I'm not sure what app to use on the Ubuntu side.  The cable is ttyUSB0
[23:45] <Andre_Gondim> does anyone use ubuntu alpha 2 8.04
[23:45] <zimon> Dappercom_, i'm from germany
[23:45] <arooni-mobile> how do i know if bluetooth is enabled on my t61 laptop?
[23:45] <arooni-mobile> on gutys
[23:45] <scguy318> arooni-mobile: unfortunately no, I'm not familiar with Bluetooth :( you probably should repose your question for others
[23:45] <intelikey> !de | zimon if you need language specific support...
[23:45] <ubotu> zimon if you need language specific support...: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:46] <scguy318> Andre_Gondim: the people in #ubuntu+1 probably do
[23:46] <waremperor> question : Trying to connect n70 mobile phone to my computer by bluetooth, link is working with hdcitool, but wammu don't want to link... why ?
[23:46] <andrew[andrboot]> @ arooni-mobile if bluetooth is enablbed ubuntu should be runninga bluetooth proggie
[23:46] <zimon> intelikey, .....
[23:46] <Andre_Gondim> scguy318, tks
[23:46] <andrew[andrboot]> i can conenct my n73 to bluetooth but thats about it.. i cannot make a modem link :p
[23:46] <arooni-mobile> andrew[andrboot], it is running a bluetooth program at boot, but the LED light under booth doesn't light up
[23:47] <Dappercom_> zimon: there is no alsa-lib package :S
[23:47] <gam3> Vertigo: It is correct /dev/gummo/wow                            /opt            ext3    defaults        0       0
[23:47] <andrew[andrboot]> @ arooni-mobile can you "scan" for devices wiht the util?
[23:47] <arooni-mobile> any idea on how to transfer files over bluetooth?  or connect to my headphones using a2dp and avrcp
[23:47] <intelikey> zimon or if you are good help and speak the language.  they always appreciate more help.
[23:47] <arooni-mobile> andrew[andrboot], not that i can see :((
[23:47] <zimon> intelikey, i was just answering a question ..
[23:47] <Dappercom_> zimon: sorry, i found it :D
[23:47] <Fezzler> Dumb question:  Is Terminal Server Client a simple terminal program I can receive data over from a serial connection?
[23:48] <Dappercom_> zimon: now, ill do reboot?
[23:48] <tritium> Fezzler: no, it's for VNC and other remote desktop connections
[23:48] <zimon> Dappercom_, if no more errors occured during the build, give it a try :-)
[23:49] <Dappercom_> ok
[23:49] <rodolfo> nickrud: still here?
[23:49] <Dappercom_> zimon: ill first give those permissions
[23:50] <FFighter> is there a way to save the server and channels opened on Xchat so that they will open automatically at the next startup ?
[23:50] <lubuntu> quit
[23:50] <andrew[andrboot]> @ FFighter you need to "add the networks"
[23:50] <prolific> hey how do i install tar.gz file
[23:50] <gam3> mount: special device /dev/mapper/gummo-wow does not exist
[23:51] <intelikey> FFighter in the full xchat yes.  i don't know about the xchat-gnome package
[23:51] <FFighter> intelikey, full xchat ?
[23:51] <intelikey> FFighter yes
[23:51] <rencore_> how can i adjust my monitor color settings on my laptop
[23:51] <FFighter> intelikey, you mean that there is a commercial version available ?
[23:51] <intelikey> !b-e | prolific
[23:51] <ubotu> prolific: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:52] <zimon> Dappercom_, you don't need to restart. just follow the instructions and run modprobe
[23:52] <intelikey> FFighter no it's free
[23:52] <prolific> k
[23:52] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know if it's possible to change a partition size without losing the data on it?
[23:52] <wilo> hello
[23:52] <intelikey> !gparted | SpudDogg
[23:52] <ubotu> SpudDogg: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[23:52] <TheDoctor2> Hi,   My login screen does not show my users anymore?
[23:52] <zeka> SpudDogg, yes - it's possible. I am no sure though which open source project does this.
[23:52] <Dappercom_> zimon: errors again... cant do chmod... no /dev/dsp and no /dev/mixer and no /dev/midi...
[23:52] <TheDoctor2> How do I fix it? Its just blank, but I have 2 users
[23:52] <wilo> i need help with screenlets, im using gutsy and gnome
[23:52] <prolific> i tried ./configure and that worked but when i tried the "make" command it says no target fil specified
[23:52] <pvl1> has anyone gotten gnump3d to work under gutsy
[23:53] <SpudDogg> intelikey: are you telling me gparted will partition hda1 without erasing it?
[23:53] <wilo> can someone help
[23:53] <SpudDogg> !ask | wilo
[23:53] <TheDoctor2> SpudDogg,  wilo: i need help with screenlets, im using gutsy and gnome
[23:53] <ubotu> wilo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:53] <dm> Hello. I'm trying to compile the spca5xx kernel module on 7.10 but get an error "linux/config.h: No such file or directory". Any idea?
[23:53] <k335> hi
[23:54] <intelikey> SpudDogg yes it can.    i don't advise changing any fs without making backups of anything you don't want to loose first.
[23:54] <SpudDogg> intelikey: ok, gonna try it out.  Thanks
[23:54] <wilo> how do i install a screenlet, i ahve the screenlet manager, but i can't install the packages
[23:54] <zimon> Dappercom_, ah .. right. your soundcard wasn't detected .. hm. maybe run /etc/init.d/makedev ... i don't know if that works
[23:55] <TheDoctor2> wili: whats the error?
[23:55] <Andres22_rio4> Como se hace para que emerald se ejecute al inicio del sistema?
[23:55] <arooni-mobile> whats that command you can run to see what packages you need before compiling something?
[23:55] <pvl1> does gnump3d work under gutsy
[23:55] <TheDoctor2> wilo: whats the problem
[23:55] <scguy318> !es | Adnres22_rio4
[23:55] <ubotu> Adnres22_rio4: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:55] <dm> !es | Andres22_rio4
[23:55] <ubotu> Andres22_rio4: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:55] <intelikey> SpudDogg i'm told if it's a windows partition   i.e. where windows lives,  then you need to first boot windows and turn off any page file (swap file)   and defrag it first.
[23:55] <scguy318> Andres22_rio4: and you should do emerald --replace I think
[23:55] <gam3> I need vgchage -ay on startup.  Any ideas the best way to do that?
[23:55] <x-X-x> how do i uninstall the whole wolfenstein enemy territory?
[23:56] <Andres22_rio4> thats doesnt work
[23:56] <Dappercom_> zimon: umm. how  do i run it :D
[23:56] <intelikey> SpudDogg something about windows writting the pagefile at the very end of the partition
[23:56] <SpudDogg> intelikey: nah, it's an ext3 partition.
[23:56] <intelikey> k
[23:56] <zimon> Dappercom_, sudo /etc/init.d/makedev
[23:56] <Andres22_rio4> #ubuntu-es
[23:56] <Zoo> Hey
[23:56] <SuperVHS> hello masters..
[23:56] <SuperVHS> one question..
[23:56] <wilo> TheDoctor2: when i download packages from gnome-look.org, i unpack them into the screenlet folder, and they dont show up on the manager
[23:56] <scguy318> Andres22_rio4: type /join #ubuntu-es
[23:56] <SuperVHS> i have install in my server Feisty (Server)
[23:57] <TheDoctor2> wilo: check where you vare puting them?
[23:57] <gam3> I need to run 'vgchange -ay' on startup, What is the best way to get that done?
[23:57] <SuperVHS> and in this repository exist this version of clamav-fresclam
[23:57] <Zoo> I had to format my Windows partition <-haha, hate windows, and then I used my live cd to restore grub and I can go back into linux now, but I can boot Windows now..., can anyone give me some help?
[23:57] <scguy318> gam3: add it to your Session startup
[23:57] <Dappercom_> zimon: it gives choises like start... i did it and it did something :D
[23:57] <SuperVHS> 0.90.2-0ubuntu1.5
[23:57] <zimon> Dappercom_, right .. start is the option
[23:57] <intelikey> !enter | SuperVHS
[23:57] <ubotu> SuperVHS: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:57] <danielvieceli> here to conect to ubuntu brasil?
[23:57] <wols_> Zoo: sudo update-grub
[23:57] <Dappercom_> zimon: do i try the chmod again?
[23:58] <Zoo> wols_: I did
[23:58] <TheDoctor2> Zoo: you need to repair grup
[23:58] <SpudDogg> intelikey: looks like i can't repartition while it's mounted...That sucks because I'm trying to partition my ubuntu partition.  i suppose i'll use the livecd
[23:58] <zimon> Dappercom_, yes
[23:58] <SuperVHS> existe one error in this version, that no update this virusdatabase correct
[23:58] <wols_> Zoo: and no windows on the menu still?
[23:58] <Jacoclaim> How the hell do you get Gutsy to log boot messages? (BOOTLOGD_ENABLE is yes. /var/log/boot shows: (Nothing has been logged yet.) )
[23:58] <SuperVHS> ok.. sorry ubotu
[23:58] <Zoo> wols_: yea, there is, but I cant boot it, "No such device"
[23:58] <danielvieceli> here to conect to ubuntu brasil?
[23:58] <Fezzler> Can I use a Serial-to-USB cable with Ubuntu?
[23:58] <scguy318> !br | danielvieceli
[23:58] <ubotu> danielvieceli: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:58] <wilo> TheDoctor2, i am putting them in the /usr/local/share/screenlets. i want to use this screenlet: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Sidebar+Screenlet+%28Vista%27ish+look%29?content=63172
[23:58] <wols_> !br | danielvieceli:
[23:58] <ubotu> danielvieceli:: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:58] <Dappercom_> zimon: didnt work :D
[23:58] <danbhtwo> I'm having trouble with a program using %100 of my cpu, udevd
[23:58] <fab5freddy> i am using a sony ux280p ultra portable pc, i installed ubuntu gutsy via a flash drive, now i want to add build-essential but it keeps telling me to insert the cd..  how do i get around this?
[23:58] <zimon> Dappercom_, if that still doesn't work you maybe need to reboot .. that's some initrd stuff that i hate because i don't understand it
[23:58] <arooni-mobile> oh noes!  i just installed: blueman (http://blueman.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&Itemid=56) ... BUT when i ran it, it said 'no adapters found' ... even though my ibm t61 has built in bluetooth......... ideas?
[23:59] <Fred_> olá
[23:59] <danielvieceli> thankś
[23:59] <FFighter> Fred_, only english here
[23:59] <ompaul> arooni-mobile, do this, apt-cache search blue | grep -i tooth
[23:59] <wols_> fab5freddy: edit your sources.list, remove the cdb-cdrom lines, add if no already there the ubuntu repos
[23:59] <BlaenkDenum> hey the format for tar.gz archiving is tar cvzf folder folder.tar.gz right?
[23:59] <Fred_> hi
[23:59] <Fred_> hi
[23:59] <asteriskguy> so I loaded ubuntu 64 on my laptop and it only recognized 3 out of 4 GB of RAM
[23:59] <Andres22_rio4> how i can make to run emereld on the sistem start?
[23:59] <wols_> BlaenkDenum: cvzf folder.zar.gz folder
[23:59] <axjv> fab5freddy: You could also direct download build-essential from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fb%2Fbuild-essential%2Fbuild-essential_11.3ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=dbf21241506cb04fc6f67a93aaaf991b&arch=i386&type=main
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> ompaul, which one do i want............. theres lots
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> :P