[02:02] <SomeGuyFromTheIn> Don't know if anyone will be able to help with this, but I'm trying to install Xubuntu 7.10 on an old Sony Laptop. Its an old P2 366mhz with 192mbs of Ram. It has enough to install xubuntu, but every time I see the Xubuntu loading screen, it'll quickly change to a command prompt "BusyBox". Is my computer too old to even run this linux version?
[02:03] <Freddy2> http://phpfi.com/285105 <- i'm using this as .vnc/xstartup file, but almost every time the execution only arrives to panel (no desktop or azureus launched), even adding a "sleep 100" at the end (assuming this would be a problem)
[02:03] <Freddy2> someone knows what's going on? (xubuntu with vnc4server)
[02:05] <Freddy2> i'm running vnc4server at startup (init.d)
[02:10] <Freddy2> maybe i could add "desktop" and "azureus" to the list of autorun, assuming this point is controlled by panel.. i'll try
[02:20] <aro> !torrent
[02:20] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[02:20] <aro> argh was looking for an xubuntu 7.10 torrent link
[09:27] <neur1> what's the best bet, xubuntu or ubuntu with packages?
[09:50] <bassboi> anyone aliv
[09:50] <bassboi> e
[09:50] <stone[no]> Merry Christmas!
[09:51] <bassboi> Merry Christmas you too!
[09:51] <bassboi> did you give santa some cookies?
[09:51] <stone[no]> Actually, no :)
[09:51] <bassboi> I would've ate them myself
[11:01] <Ralph_> hi!
[11:01] <Ralph_> i try to install xubuntu 7.10. but it always hang up at 77%
[11:02] <Ralph_> how can i install it?
[11:02] <neur1> did you check your install cd's integrity?
[11:03] <Ralph_> yes I burned it 2 times
[11:03] <Ralph_> and it always hang up at 77%
[11:03] <neur1> did you try the alternate cd?
[11:03] <Ralph_> it's the alternate cd -.-
[11:05] <neur1> what are you using to burn them kb3?
[11:05] <Ralph_> no i burned it under windows with cdburnerxp
[11:05] <Ralph_> when i change to the console i see it hangs at the package installation-report
[11:06] <neur1> youre doing this all hardwired?
[11:06] <neur1> to internet
[11:07] <Ralph_> no because i have only wlan connection and i have to install the driver
[11:08] <neur1> you can't access a hardwire?
[11:09] <Ralph_> no -.-
[11:09] <Ralph_> mhm i will trie an older version
[11:09] <Ralph_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511944
[11:09] <Ralph_> i just found this
[14:45] <nick4> I am running Xubuntu 7.04. I am using getdeb.net to find .deb's but some packages are not available for my version of the distro, they require Gutsy. What will happen if I go ahead and install them on Edgy?
[14:51] <portkatterno> I have Xubuntu 7.10 on a 350 Mhz Pentium2 and I must say I am impressed. A nearly 10 years old machine and Opera and sylpheed nearly fly. But somtimes, not very often, CPU load goes up to 100 % and the only remedy is torestart X. Is this a known bug or is it something with my setup?
[14:53] <TheSheep> portkatterno: what graphics card?
[14:54] <portkatterno> Some old Matrox with 8 mb memory. Could be Millenium II.
[14:54] <TheSheep> hmm.. I don't recall anything special about that card drivers :/
[14:55] <TheSheep> portkatterno: most ofte such problems are with graphic drivers
[14:55] <TheSheep> portkatterno: did you notice any specific thing when it hangs?
[14:58] <portkatterno> Not really. Maybe it is prone to do so more when the load is high anyhow. The top command shows that it is Xorg that takes te resources but if I remember correctly also som xfce-application has ben involved.
[14:59] <TheSheep> portkatterno: when it happens next time, try running 'strace -p <PID of the process> in a text console to see what it does
[14:59] <TheSheep> (note: never strace X from inside of itself)
[15:02] <portkatterno> TheSheep: Thank you very much for the advise! I'll do that and report back here.
[15:04] <TheSheep> portkatterno: probably better redirect that strace to some file
[15:07] <portkatterno> OK.
[15:12] <Marco_Detto_Buff> Ciao amici di #xubuntu
[16:08] <abcdefg> does anyone know how to point totem to a codec directory?  I got the essential package for mplayer and extracted to /usr/lib/codecs and modified the totem conf file in gnome2, but still doesn't work.
[16:16] <gpx> How much work would it be to setup an install over a crossover cat5 cable from one laptop to another for xubuntu =D? What would be required etc =D? Yes fear the lack of burnable media in my house
[16:18] <TheSheep> !install | gpx
[16:18] <ubotu> gpx: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:25] <gpx> ¨hmm unetbootin seems to be the easiest way
[16:25] <gpx> since i already have the 7.10 iso on the box
[16:26] <TheSheep> gpx: it worked for me pretty nice
[16:26] <gpx> i do though want to completely format the partition and remove windows
[16:26] <gpx> will it do that?
[16:27] <TheSheep> you won't be able to touch the partition on which the iso lies
[16:27] <gpx> that is a bit sad
[16:27] <gpx> maybe netboot is the way to go then
[16:27] <TheSheep> you probably need to do it in two steps
[16:27] <Baversjo> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu server 7.10 and after installation i used the command "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". I configurated the x-server using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and i was able to start Xubuntu and login. But i could not se the "start-menu", only the desktop with some folders. Do i need to download the "start-menu" or something? I have tried to change the resolution...
[16:27] <Baversjo> ...and make the sceen smaler in the monitors own settings. I cant see any menu :(
[16:28] <TheSheep> Baversjo: try pressing 'alt+f2' and typing 'xfce4-panel'
[16:29] <Baversjo> ok, i will try that later today. But when i used apt-get install xubuntu-desktop did i get the "gusty gibbon" one?
[16:29] <Baversjo> or a later version
[16:29] <TheSheep> Baversjo: you got the same version as the server you installed
[16:30] <Baversjo> I downloaded 7.1 today and  burned it to disk, all fresh :P
[16:30] <Baversjo> thank you TheSheep :P
[16:30] <TheSheep> Baversjo: panel might sometimes not startup properly on machines with low ram, it's a known bug, but it will work fine once started manually
[16:30] <Baversjo> Ye i have low ram, 370 or something :P
[16:31] <TheSheep> then it might be something else
[16:32] <Baversjo> Well, i will hope it is a bug :P
[16:32] <Baversjo> thank you :D
[16:47] <gpx> The grub method for netboot install on the wikipage, I dont quite see where you specify the ISO/box to install form or am i missing things
[16:48] <TheSheep> gpx: it takes it from the DHCP server
[16:49] <TheSheep> gpx: basically, the computer sends a broadcast when it boots, and takes the image from the computer that responds to that broadcast
[16:50] <XwarlokX82> Anybody know how to enable the foreward/back buttons on a 5 button intellimouse?
[16:50] <TheSheep> XwarlokX82: you need to use the evdev driver instead of the 'mouse' one
[16:51] <TheSheep> XwarlokX82: google for your mouse model name
[16:51] <TheSheep> XwarlokX82: and 'linux' or 'ubuntu'
[16:51] <TheSheep> XwarlokX82: there should be howtos
[16:52] <gpx> TheSheep the laptops are connected via a crossover cat5 cable
[16:52] <gpx> so there is no DHCP nor PXE setup =D
[16:53] <TheSheep> gpx: that's normal network
[16:54] <TheSheep> gpx: just set up a dhcp server on your box, it should be described in the howto
[16:54] <gpx> guess ill have to download and install tftp and dhcp server
[16:54] <TheSheep> yes, it's necessary for netboot
[17:32] <gpxvp> How can I get the ubuntu/xubuntu netboot to use an .ISO image or a folder on the PXE Server to install from instead of the internet?
[19:08] <gpxvp> Need some more help getting a netinstall of ubuntu going! =) Gotten PXE up, gotten the install running, setup Apache with the Xubuntu 7.10 image unpacked, try pointing to it but it says it's not a valid Mirror or is missing a releases file
[19:09] <TheSheep> gpxvp: it wants a repository, not an image
[19:10] <gpxvp> i have unpacked the image
[19:11] <gpxvp> suffice to say that doesn't seem to be sufficient
[19:13] <gpxvp> so i need some releases file or something I suppose? or do i need a different treestructure or what?
[19:17] <TheSheep> I have no idea, never tried with the netboot
[19:17] <TheSheep> f you have some usb disk or a thumbdrive, you can install from that
[19:18] <gpxvp> nope
[19:18] <gpxvp> and i dont have any CD-RW laying about either
[19:21] <scizzo-> it does not have internet access at all?
[19:22] <gpxvp> the laptop i have setup DHCP and using as a PXE server does have inet access
[19:22] <gpxvp> via a shoddy wireless
[19:23] <TheSheep> gpxvp: you can set it up as a router for the other box
[19:23] <gpxvp> and going laptop -> pxe -> laptop -> wireless -> router -> internet
[19:23] <gpxvp> is not something i want to do
[19:23] <gpxvp> especially since setting up ICS on the first laptop
[19:23] <gpxvp> kills the TFTp32 DHCP server
[19:23] <gpxvp> since ICS sets up it's own lite dhcp
[19:25] <TheSheep> ics?
[19:25] <gpxvp> internet connection sharing
[19:25] <gpxvp> the PXE Server is a windows XP machine
[19:26] <gpxvp> so the easiest way is for me to setup a working mirror on my Apacheserver on the box
[19:26] <gpxvp> which i have no idea how to do
[19:29] <TheSheep> gpxvp: I would just put the iso on the hdd of that box and do the install in two steps, first install system on one partitin and then delete the partition with the image and make it a /home partition
[19:30] <gpxvp> how do i get to install any sort of system on it?
[19:31] <TheSheep> gpxvp: right now it has a windows and a linux partition, with a working linux, right?
[19:50] <gpxvp> no
[19:50] <gpxvp> it doesnt
[19:50] <gpxvp> it has a virtual linux shell
[19:52] <slow-motion> hi
[19:52] <gpxvp> oh well
[19:52] <gpxvp> finally managed to get a hold of some CD-R disks
[19:52] <gpxvp> so now i might aswell burn a livecd
[19:59] <scizzo-> anyone using f-spot btw? want to ask if it breaks for others as well when trying to open images
[20:08] <neur1> wbar, how do i launch it?
[20:25] <scizzo-> neur1: wbar?
[20:28] <neur1> a launcher
[20:29] <scizzo-> is it bwbar you are thinking about?
[20:29] <scizzo-> or awn?
[20:30] <neur1> dunno , think it's called wbar
[20:31] <neur1> here : http://code.google.com/p/wbar/
[20:36] <scizzo-> wbar -help
[20:36] <scizzo-> the command seems to be wbar
[20:36] <scizzo-> if you have the deb file installed
[20:36] <scizzo-> or simular
[20:36] <scizzo-> if the command does not exist then: sudo ldconfig && sudo updatedb
[20:36] <scizzo-> and try again
[20:37] <neur1> k
[21:34] <gpxvp> Ok I must be captain useless wen it comes to this... Burned the xubuntu 7.10 image, booted with it, cose option 1 (Start or install xubuntu) and it shows a sliding bar for a while, then just boots inn? Id like to format and install it tbh =D
[21:36] <gpxvp> so what am i doing wrong here oO
[21:37] <gpxvp> oh i need to install it further from after booting, i see
[21:39] <neur1> how do i refresh the screen (background) in the terminal?
[21:43] <Catoptromancy> clear?
[21:45] <neur1> i mean . . . the desktop background using the terminal, that clear is usefull too tho thank you
[21:50] <scizzo-> neur1: should update it self after applying the changes
[21:50] <scizzo-> neur1: might need to restart the terminal
[21:52] <neur1> o.k.