[00:42] guys how i can get gbox works with gusty??? [00:43] AndrewB: how i can get gbox works with gusty??? [00:43] Aranel: how i can get gbox works with gusty??? [00:44] Aishiko: how i can get gbox works with gusty??? [00:44] neztiti: stop spanning [00:44] spamming* [00:44] !support [00:44] the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [00:44] This is for Hardy support. [00:44] ANd discussion [00:45] MenZa: ok help me man :P [00:48] I wish I could. [00:49] MenZa: ok thank u [00:52] Is flashplugin-nonfree broken on Hardy, too? [00:52] yup [00:53] doesn't work at all in firefox-3.0 [00:53] hard to get working in 2.0 [00:53] ah [00:53] fanks [00:53] :) [00:53] np [01:32] mm [01:56] Hello everyone === ketrox_ is now known as ketrox === bigon is now known as bigon` [05:04] hardy [05:05] how can i update to hardon? [05:05] from gutsgib? [05:06] ganjamaniac: see /topic [06:46] I'm trying to post to the Hardy forum, but keep getting "not logged in or do not have permission to access this page". [06:49] * Hobbsee suspects you wanted #ubuntuforums [06:50] That's a channel? Cool. [06:50] Thanks. [07:04] openoffice.org transition is broken from gutsy -> hardy on x86 [07:04] (not that i care :D) [07:05] And the kde4 metapackage is broken. [07:06] who cares about kde :P [07:06] personally i see kde being broken as a feature ;) [07:07] !info kde4 [07:07] kde4: the K Desktop Environment version 4 official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0 (hardy), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB === Tomcat_` is now known as Tomcat_ [09:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644378&page=2 [09:39] SLuggish Hardy. [09:39] Oh yeah, and something cool: my 7200rpm drive definitely DOES make a difference in disk throughput. [09:41] Well, it doubles the maximum, but I don't know how to measuer the average. [09:45] Time to fsck 27 gigs on old drive: 273 seconds. [09:46] oh wait, that's the time for 60 gigs on new drive. [09:46] Time for 27 on old drive: 215 seconds. [09:47] hi there i just updated from gutsy to hardy. after restart no gdm i found myself under console. x does not start. i already tried sudo su restart x but does not work. what is wrong can anyone help? [09:48] i already tried db_shared/default-x-server did not work either [09:48] sorry meant db_get shared/.... [09:48] it says command not found [09:49] Look for a log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [09:50] And the way to restart GDM is this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [09:50] (or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart) [09:53] output on restart is: /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer: line 47: [: too many arguments Warning: Could not retrieve EDID because get-edid is not installed (1): error: this program does not know how to configure the "10 shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server warning: could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver [09:54] That's odd. [09:55] That "10 shared...." thing looks like something's broken. [09:57] hmm i had hardy running uder virtualbox and drivers were properly installed. [09:57] sorry meant gutsy [09:57] Right now I'm grepping everything in /usr/ for 'default-x-server', to see if anything even refers to it. [09:57] I'll do the same in /etc/. [09:59] Aah, looks like debconf screwed soemthing up. [10:01] I'm not quite sure what's the best way to fix it. I usually just purge the package while forcing dependencies, and then reinstall it with aptitude. However, that might be like taking a .... where's a good idiom? .... Oh, like using a sledgehammer to drive a nail. [10:02] sounds like much work eh? so whats there to do for me now. i am not very good at cmd line,... [10:03] but wait i just changed xorg.conf and put in vesa under "device" then ini 6 and whoa there it is again. gdm is back [10:03] 6 is reboot, actually. [10:03] i guess now i have to reinstall drivers again [10:03] i know. [10:04] similar liek that it was [10:04] Section "Device" [10:04] Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" [10:04] BusID "PCI:1:0:0" [10:04] Driver "nvidia" [10:04] EndSection [10:04] changed to [10:04] Section "Device" [10:04] Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]" [10:04] BusID "PCI:1:0:0" [10:04] Driver "vesa" [10:04] EndSection [10:04] and then rebooted [10:04] oh yeah, watch the pasting. [10:04] !pastebin [10:04] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [10:05] oh yo are right i just gto my message from ubotu,... arghhhhh [10:06] Manual NVIDIA is a pain because you also have to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common [10:06] I also disabled the failsafe-X because I'd rather be dropped to a console, frankly. [10:10] after reboot i had no mouse [10:10] so i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [10:10] i just rebooted wonder if mouse is back on [10:11] Oh yeah, something useful to note: with nvidia, if you have a valid EDID then you likely won't need the "modes" section. [10:12] i tworks again. now i can start to reinstall drivers i hope [10:13] That reference to 'default-x-server' still seemed odd to me. [10:14] I see, it was failing with nvidia due to driver being missing, and then failing to start the failsafe due to the failsafe being broken. [10:14] And the second part is what gave that cryptic error. [10:15] never thougt that i could fix it on my own. man im starting to get used to it,... ;-) [10:19] Oh yeah, if you do 'aptitude changelog xserver-xorg', there are some interesting notes in there. [10:20] i just forgot command to find out which kernel is used. culd u tell it to me? [10:20] uname -r [10:20] or -a for more info: [10:20] thnx [10:20] Linux GLaDOS 2.6.24-2-generic #1 SMP Thu Dec 20 17:36:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux [10:27] ok thnx folks thats it for now. thnx for helping out! bye,... [10:38] Gaack, my damn nvidia card is blinking again! [10:43] Hi there! Hardy heron doesn't boot anymore. I only see the splashscreen and the scrollbar is moving from left to right until (after a long time) i end up in busybox and it tells my that /dev/disk/by-uuid/blabla couldn't be found. Can someone help me? [10:50] jhasse: did you edit the disk-layout in some way ? [10:50] pvandewyngaerde: no, i just updated hardy. [10:51] you need to find the UUID of your / - filesystem and compare it with the UUID value that is mentioned in grub [10:54] ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ < maybe this can help you [10:54] pvandewyngaerde: but if this uuid wasn't correct, i wouldn't see the splash screen at all, would i? [10:54] good point [10:55] jhasse: the splash is in initrd, it does not need the root file system [10:56] albert23: ah okay. I will check the uuid [10:57] hm.. i just checked and it was correct [10:58] maybe its your mountpoints [10:58] check your fstab [11:03] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0000 1818 42080000 0000238c 00000000 03840000 [12:54] Who know how to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178234 [12:54] Launchpad bug 178234 in ubuntu "GTK themes doesn't work." [Undecided,New] [13:02] Hello [13:02] can someone please tell me, how to alert users in Jabber chat rooms like this: [13:02] username:message [13:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178234 [13:17] Launchpad bug 178234 in ubuntu "GTK themes doesn't work." [Undecided,New] [13:19] travkin: yes, adn? [13:19] Hobbsee: do you know how to fix this bug? [13:19] Hobbsee: that means you need to jump on that bug and fix it now! [13:20] travkin: no. and i didn't the last 5 times you came in and spammed us with it, either [13:20] see :) [13:20] what's the ati's driver version in hardy? i see versioning has changed totally between gutsy and hardy... [13:21] gutsy's drivers are marked as 8.xxx but hardys seem to be 7.xx .. what's the deal with that? [13:25] th_: From what little I have looked at it, it seems that ATI does some weird dual version numbers. The 7.xx number is the Catalyst version while the 8.xx number is the fglrx version. I'm not sure if they both increment at the same time though. [13:27] okay, little birds notified that ati has synced versioning with windows drivers or something like that [13:27] .. not that it helps anything, i don't have windows anywhere :-) [13:28] just wondering if upgrading to hardy would fix driver issues with ati.. [13:29] bug 173663 [13:29] Launchpad bug 173663 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "compiz will not launch with fglrx driver - falls back to metacity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173663 [13:30] yes... windows drivers seem to be 7.12 too [13:30] Probably not yet ^ if you want it to work well :/ Plus theres this nice big "AMD UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE TESTING USE ONLY" watermark in the lower right hand corner of the screen. [13:30] oh, compiz is not an issue, it works wit xserver-xgl [13:30] but all 3d-games have corrupted textures (with gutsy's default driver). even without xgl [13:31] and installing 7.12 breaks the resolution [13:34] just wondering if upgrading to hardy would fix driver issues with ati.. [13:34] my gutsy was superfine but now in hardy i have random screen lock ups [13:35] freezes or amth [13:35] smth* [13:35] smth? [13:35] = something [13:36] hit: well. this one is X1600 (macbook pro) mobile version... compiz for example works just fine with xserver-xgl package installed, but all games are no-go. they run fine but all textures corrupted [13:36] I'd hold off on Hardy if you want things to work. [13:36] i think newer drivers should have aigxl support and such goodies, just wondering if they'd fix textures too [13:36] havent tried any games in hardy except supertux, whitch is fine [13:37] well, guess i'll keep gaming on nvidia machines. annoying still whatsoever [13:42] will be interesting to see what the new nvidia drivers will do [13:43] since the 8 GPU development is in the new once [13:45] got a new digital video cam and it is not auto detected. when running tail -f /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages this is what I get after plugging in the camera http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49582/ any help would be appreciated [13:55] What can I do when even ndiswrapper fails in hardy? :/ === Skiessl is now known as Skiessi [13:57] Vadi: compile it from source, see for any difference [13:58] Hobbsee: Hm.. is built-essential one .deb? [13:58] Vadi: It should be on the ubuntu cd, so use that as a source. And no, its a metapackage that depends on other packages. [13:59] !b-e [13:59] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [13:59] its' a list of packages [13:59] Ah, ok. [13:59] well, it's a metapackage, which installs other packages [13:59] Vadi: which card? [13:59] Hobbsee: Belkin F5D7010, v 7. Realtek 8185 chipset. The vendor has linux drivers on their website even. [14:00] ahhh [14:00] I couldn't set them up though myself. So I used ndiswrapper, but support for that degrades with every version :( [14:01] ndiswrapper is tempramental, yes [14:01] Okay, I'll reboot and check it out. [14:26] Okay, not all is lost. "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" got it working at the end this time. [14:33] The add/remove program just crashed on me, and offered to submit a report. I said okay, but now it tells me "You are not allowed to access this problem report.". What? [14:34] (and it just crashed the second time) [14:59] Anybody here working on Xen for hardy? === lakin_ is now known as lakin [18:09] Hi, anyone seeing unbootable system similar to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-March/015087.html on latest Hardy? [18:10] I get dropped to a busybox 1.1.3-5ubuntu9 [18:10] any ideas? [18:12] alex_mayorga, that bug report seems to suggest that the uuid set in the /etc/fstab is out of date [18:13] i saw this some 9 hours ago too [18:14] it happened "out of the blue" to me [18:14] when I chose the 386 option in grub it happens [18:14] alex_mayorga, i'm actually installing hardy heron on a brand new comp so i will see if i can replicate the problem [18:14] I'm just fine when I pick -generic [18:14] sorry on the lame english [18:15] seems like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256 croping again or something [18:15] Launchpad bug 67256 in initramfs-tools "Failure to mount root filesystem, cause unknown" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:15] alex_mayorga, is it because the 386 kernel switches to sda naming for pata drives? [18:15] plese let me know what I can I do to confirm it [18:16] also the -386-recovery option doesn't help [18:17] infinitycircuit, might be, I'm not yet at that level of OS comprehensio :( [18:17] alex_mayorga, well older kernels would name ide/pata hard drives as /dev/hdaX but they now use /dev/sdaX in the newer kernels [18:17] pvandewyngaerde, how did you fix it? [18:20] I have to run, please post any suggestion or whether this is a know one, BRB [18:20] Which kernel does alpha 2 has? [18:21] Or use rather. [18:21] Vad1, 2.6.24-2-generic [18:22] infinitycircuit: Ah okay, thank you [18:22] alex_mayorga: i didnt have the problem === xtknight_ is now known as xtknight [18:58] infinitycircuit, so I should regenerate initframs [18:58] alex_mayorga, well if the generic kernel works you could stick with that [18:59] alex_mayorga, what is the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid [19:00] infinitycircuit, where's pastebin? [19:00] !pastebin [19:00] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [19:02] infinitycircuit, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49618/ the last entry is the one blammed on crash when I see the busybox promt [19:02] alex_mayorga, so does /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst agree with those uuid values [19:06] infinitycircuit, they're the same [19:07] somebody seeing this: nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel() [19:11] infinitycircuit, I can consistently crash nautilus, when I right-click a windows patition on the desktop, click properties and then click close [19:11] is this related? [19:12] alex_mayorga, i don't know...let me try it [19:13] alex_mayorga, i get no error when i try that but you should still file a bug report on launchpad [19:17] Bug #178768 [19:17] Bug 178768 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/178768 is private [19:17] :O [19:17] Bug #178768 [19:17] Launchpad bug 178768 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178768 [19:26] does anyone know how to enable uswsusp in hal in hardy heron? [19:26] in gutsy you had to change /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-suspend-linux to contain "/sbin/s2both" but this no longer works in hardy [21:06] Someone knows how to fix the gdm hang up after login? It seems that xserver wont start after login, however I am able to start it in console with startx, someone had the same issue ? [21:34] Is there discussions about.. technical problems in here sometimes.. hem? [21:34] :) [21:35] yes... [21:35] !ask [21:35] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [21:35] thks [21:37] Someone had problems with gdm login.. screen stay blank and no desktop appear after logon, however I am able to start the session with startx in console [21:37] Nvid 8600GT + ubuntu strandard 386 [21:38] anyone knows about it ? thanks === Dana1 is now known as DanaG [21:40] of course I am under 8.04 Al2 version === Spec is now known as x-spec-ting [22:06] hi all [22:06] just wanna feedback some stuff here... [22:06] Been toying with the broadcom fwcutter, on both b43 bcm43xx [22:07] now i know for sure the bcm43xx should work on this lappy [22:07] anybody know of a procedure to make it work? [22:07] also, nice to see my sound touch keys working [22:07] (o; [22:09] ok to be little more specific.. standard install uses b43, but dmesg|tail says it cannot assign irq=0 [22:10] i also wanna note that i needed to get the CD running using boot param acpi=off or else it was a dark dark world [22:10] bcm43xx should be deprecated, actually. [22:10] b43 is much, much better. [22:10] thats what everybody says, i know [22:10] but i never got it to work tho [22:11] 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 1363 [22:11] i'm in windows, didnt copy my lspci.. damnit [22:11] but i it looks vey much the same [22:11] you can use device manager to inspect the data [22:12] i'm no windows hero [22:12] but lemme try [22:12] 02:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 01) Subsystem: 103c:1363 if you need -n [22:13] isnt there a CMD command to see this? [22:13] no [22:13] damn i hate this GUI [22:13] die now [22:14] die now? [22:14] wrong channel [22:14] lol [22:14] what are ya smoking? [22:14] (o; [22:15] happened to me 4 times already today :/ [22:15] hahaha [22:15] well i just went curious on ubuntu, to see what broadcom driver they are using.. [22:16] but i notice the firmware was absent to begin with [22:16] why is that? [22:16] legal stuff? [22:16] probably [22:16] I have a 4328 [22:17] I have to use ndiswrapper [22:17] fwcutter doesn't work with it [22:17] i've been using sabayon 3.4F for a time, it got my wireless working out of the box [22:18] ok... [22:18] it uses the bcm43xx driver and firmware [22:18] lspci | grep -i "broadcom" [22:18] try that [22:18] i'm in windows as we speak [22:18] ah [22:18] poor you [22:18] so i figured.. getting firmware (wich i did) and rmmod b43 && modprobe bcm43xx && depmod [22:19] yeah [22:19] just use ndiswrapper [22:19] switching to that driver, nm-applet isnt very nice [22:19] I gave up using the firmware [22:19] well ndiswrapper is the easy path [22:19] the goal is, getting this working [22:19] doesn't work with kismet though [22:19] (o; [22:19] pity. [22:20] brb, getting a beer [22:21] * joost_op opens a beer..cheers [22:21] tumbleweed_ : ndiswrapper-common isn't installed by default i noticed [22:22] yeah [22:22] I saw that too [22:22] what options people have if all fails.. [22:22] get a .deb somewhere...get a windows driver [22:23] it would be nice if it was pre-installed imho [22:23] but then, maybe, legal stuff [22:23] i'm not really used to the legal stuff [22:23] hehe [22:24] tumbleweed_ : ever gave sabayon 3.4f a shot? [22:26] newp [22:26] any good? [22:26] well you should maybe give it a spin then, i cannot be objective onj that [22:26] haw [22:27] as i help out on that distro [22:27] it builds itself from source, right? [22:27] no [22:27] hmmm [22:27] its a binary build gentoo system [22:27] but it's based on gentoo, right? [22:27] oh [22:27] with several kernel tweaks [22:27] insert and go, just like ubuntu [22:28] not for me [22:28] I use the alternate install disc :P [22:28] but it by default supports mp3,divx,flash..etc [22:28] and has compiz-fusion and such [22:28] I use xfce [22:28] great choice [22:29] indeedy [22:29] minimalist [22:29] If I were a minimalist, I'd use flux or JWM [22:29] been testing kde4 lately [22:29] b43-fwcutter seems to work...? [22:29] omg, its so gay [22:29] the cutter works allright [22:29] the cutter has never worked for me [22:29] I guess it's just my model [22:30] but after installing firmware.. it cannot asign irq [22:30] thats what dmesg is crying about [22:30] the cutter just extracts the firmware [22:30] (o; [22:30] what's the SSID? [22:30] I still wonder why Broadcom doesn't let people redistribute the firmware. [22:31] because they are evil nazi-clowns [22:31] so its legal stuff DanaG? [22:31] I can understand not open-sourcing it, but I see no valid reason for not allowing redistribution. [22:31] yeah, I think I'll give sabayon a whirl [22:32] as long as I can use my old /home [22:32] hmmm [22:32] professional edition? [22:32] sabayon doesnt shp with xfce4 [22:32] no the 3.4F you want [22:33] its a DVD [22:33] oh [22:33] what's different about the professional edition? [22:33] its on the stable branch [22:33] oh [22:33] fail [22:33] (o; [22:34] what about 3.5 r1? [22:34] its the test release [22:35] any good? [22:35] that one i wouldn't suggest [22:35] very well [22:35] tested it here [22:35] I was on debian for a while, but etch won't install on my laptop [22:35] too new\ [22:36] too new? [22:36] yeah [22:36] my laptop was a week old when I bought it [22:36] then surely dont do sabayon [22:36] oooh [22:36] and etch is the stable version [22:36] i though debian was too new [22:36] LOL! [22:36] no, debian's all about the stability [22:37] i hope you got a nvidia video inside [22:37] yup [22:37] 7150, I think [22:37] ati/amd is still way behind [22:37] I have a dual core turion [22:37] with 2 HD's [22:37] this thing is pimped [22:37] got a Turion64 X2 here [22:38] and a Q6600 for dekstop [22:38] muahha [22:38] ;/ [22:38] Quadcore FTW [22:38] been using ubuntu since the first version [22:39] but i slipped into sabayon a year ago [22:39] I see [22:39] nevertheless i follow progress on the ubuntu proect [22:39] I dropped XP the first time I used ubuntu [22:40] haven't used it since [22:40] well even before XP i was using linux, but i never dropped it [22:40] although i'm near 30, i love gaming [22:40] (o; [22:41] it runs in WINE or I don't play it === bigon` is now known as bigon [22:41] thats drastic [22:41] * tumbleweed__ shrugs [22:42] no Crysis for you mate [22:42] I'm far too lazy to boot into XP [22:42] no crysis for me indeed [22:42] I've had incredibly crappy computers for 14 years [22:42] well yeah, i love XP for gaming [22:42] I have tons of other games to catch up on [22:42] first time I've had a video card that wasn't PCI [22:43] and the PCI card came 2 years ago [22:43] so.... [22:43] yeah. [22:43] and I don't mean pci-e [22:43] * joost_op uses 8 series [22:43] i need a good PC to work with, hahah [22:44] * tumbleweed__ is always just farting around in the terminal [22:45] thumbleweed__ : i'm not advertising here, but sabayon comes with allot of 3d games default [22:45]