[01:41] <no0tic> is there a way to force someone to join a channel?
[01:41] <crdlb> no
[01:41] <crdlb> although you can trick them into joining with a banforward
[01:42] <PriceChild> and a few people join on invite
[01:42] <nalioth> tricking people is more for April, i'd suspect
[01:55] <no0tic> I'll try with a banfoward :)
[01:55] <no0tic> but I think he would suspect something :)
[02:24] <MenZa> Hot_Girl in #ubuntu seems like someone to watch
[02:24] <LjL> MenZa: because she's hot?
[02:24] <LjL> sorry.
[02:24] <MenZa> such aggression.
[02:24] <MenZa> LjL: someone needs sleep :p
[02:25] <MenZa> hmm
[02:25]  * MenZa notes: #ubuntu-ops is window no. 26
[02:25] <LjL> MenZa: i can help with that
[02:30] <LjL> i don't think fabio is clueless, i think he's a troll.
[02:30] <LjL> he can go on collecting kicks until he collects something stronger.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> they're all clueless.
[02:31] <LjL> well he's a clueless troll.
[02:31] <Hobbsee> true dat.
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> :)   and tired....
[02:31] <Hobbsee> hotgirl is an idiot, on *so* many levels
[02:31] <LjL> happy whateverdayitis by the way Hobbsee
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hot girl is most likely a middle aged guy , living in him mom's basement
[02:32] <Hobbsee> or someone thinking they'll get help, rather tahn propositioned
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> yea... that too
[02:33] <crdlb> his realname confirms such a hypothesis :)
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> what is it?
[02:33] <LjL> look?
[02:33] <Pici> Greg could be a girls name...
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Greg moore... too funny
[02:34] <LjL> Pici: oh, like benjamin?
[02:34] <Pici> Or Lorenzo
[02:34] <LjL> i guess
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> I am so punchy.... I dont have the patience for little kids any more
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Ages 4 and 7 will send me to heaven... in a hurry
[02:43] <Hobbsee> ugh.  i've seen enough idiocy already
[02:43] <Pici> :(
[02:50] <ikonia> heads up on hot_girl.
[02:50] <ikonia> possible time waster
[02:51] <ikonia> < Hot_Girl> one sec IKEAwh0re
[02:51] <ikonia> thats not my nick incase you didn't guess ;)
[02:53] <Pici> ikonia: there is someone with that nick in the channel though
[02:53] <ikonia> I can't see them
[02:53] <ikonia> oooh yes
[02:53] <Pici> tab complete s on ik brough you two up
[02:53] <ikonia> so I can
[02:54] <ikonia> my mistake
[02:54] <ikonia> apologies
[02:54] <Pici> Anyway, Men-za said to keep an eye on hot_girl anyway..
[02:54] <Pici> A bit earlier
[02:55] <ikonia> ahh, only just joined
[02:55] <ikonia> at parents house so connection is limited
[03:06]  * MenZa eyes Pici
[03:06] <MenZa> Are you trying to avoid high-lighting me?
[03:06] <MenZa> I see everything!
[03:06] <ikonia> WTF - nickname in #ubuntu
[03:08] <nalioth> ikonia: who?
[03:08] <ikonia> the nick is "wtf"
[03:10] <nalioth> ikonia: 'nickname' is the name of a known troll
[03:10] <nalioth> your sentence would lead one to believe that 'nickname' was up to something
[03:10] <ikonia> ahhh
[03:11] <ikonia> my mistake then, WTF is a nickname in #ubuntu
[03:12] <nalioth> wtf > wwjd > wwjd||| > hotter_than_hot
[03:12] <nalioth> and gone for nick spam
[03:12] <ikonia> thank you !
[03:12] <ikonia> I'm struggling in there
[05:37] <ardchoille> I hate smart alecks
[05:38] <nalioth> where?
[05:38]  * nalioth covers his mirror
[05:38] <ardchoille> #kubuntu
[05:38] <ardchoille> < flaccid> nalioth: what if i say no?
[05:38] <ardchoille> nalioth: lol
[05:45] <ardchoille> Hobbsee: KUDOS!
[05:45] <ardchoille> :)
[05:45] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[05:46] <ardchoille> heh, dude?
[05:51] <ardchoille> There should be something about "thou shalt not argue with an op in the channel"
[05:52] <Hobbsee> there is.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> i'm just trying not to invoke it
[05:52] <ardchoille> ok
[05:52] <Hobbsee> because it makes him easier to pull the "the ops hate me" card
[05:52] <ardchoille> ah
[05:53] <nalioth> ops hate him?
[05:54] <Hobbsee> he can percieve that
[05:54] <nalioth> self-fulfilling prophecy of all trolls
[05:54] <Hobbsee> hah. hotgirl went
[05:54] <ardchoille> Some use that instead of looking at the real problem
[05:55] <Hobbsee> ardchoille: exactly
[05:57] <ardchoille> I can't believe he has the nerve to argue in the channel with an op and a staffer.
[05:58] <GoldenPony> he's trolling.
[06:25] <Myrtti> moin
[06:31] <Hobbsee> heya
[06:36] <Myrtti> funky
[06:38] <Myrtti> I ping timeout from IRCnet if I've left my screened irssi on my 770 and it loses wifi connection and the ssh session drops
[06:38] <ardchoille> Really?
[06:38]  * ardchoille ducks
[06:39] <Myrtti> appears as so, I've done it on consecutive nights
[06:40] <Myrtti> but freenode survives it
[06:40] <Myrtti> it's only IRCnet doing it
[06:40] <ardchoille> freenode is cool
[06:42] <Myrtti> yup
[06:49] <Myrtti> could someone unmute RoshanK on #ubuntu, my irssi complains about channel not synchronised again
[06:56] <Myrtti> ok, this isn't working
[08:07] <ubotu> HardDisk called the ops in #ubuntu (NeoGeo64)
[12:19] <Pici> Myrtti: If you're still having issues with irssi and #ubuntu being unsynced, try setting channel_max_who_sync to something over the number of people in #ubuntu (mine is at 2000)
[12:20] <Myrtti> hmmmm?
[12:20] <Pici> Oh.. that was like 6 hours ago, oops
[12:22] <Myrtti> no but how?
[12:22] <Pici> oh. /set channel_max_who_sync 2000
[14:04] <jpatrick> !no, bugs is <reply>If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:04] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jpatrick said: !no, bugs is <reply>If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:04] <Hobbsee> !no, bugs is <reply>If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:04] <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee
[14:05] <Pici> Whats new?
[14:06] <ardchoille> Ah, the bugs url changed
[14:06] <Pici> Was it bugs.ubuntu.com before?
[14:06] <LjL> yes
[14:06] <ardchoille> yeah
[14:06] <Pici> Ah.
[14:07] <LjL> which still works for that matter
[14:08] <jpatrick> the http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots pointed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:09] <jpatrick> smaller message
[14:09] <Pici> Good thinking
[14:12] <jpatrick> hmm, maybe !bug is <alias>bugs ?
[14:13] <Pici> -bugs
[14:13] <LjL> !bug
[14:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:13] <Pici> !-bug
[14:13] <ubotu> bug aliases: filebug, bugtracker - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:24:59
[14:13] <Pici> !-bugs
[14:13] <ubotu> bugs has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:25:05
[14:13] <LjL> !no bug is <alias> bugs
[14:13] <jpatrick> or other way round and update bug
[14:13] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[14:13] <LjL> !-bugs
[14:13] <ubotu> bugs aliases: bug - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:25:05
[14:13] <LjL> !no bugtracker is <alias> bugs
[14:13] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[14:13] <LjL> !-bugtracker
[14:13] <ubotu> bugtracker is <alias> bug - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:54:52
[14:13] <LjL> tsk... this should work the other way round
[14:14] <LjL> !no bugtracker is <alias> bugs
[14:14] <LjL> !no bugtracker is <alias> bugs
[14:14] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[14:14] <LjL> !no filebug is <alias> bugs
[14:14] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[14:14] <LjL> !no filebug is <alias> bugs
[14:14] <LjL> !no filebug is <alias> bugs
[14:14] <LjL> !-bugs
[14:14] <ubotu> bugs aliases: bug, filebug, bugtracker - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 23:25:05
[14:15] <jpatrick> prefect :)
[14:16] <LjL> no, not quite
[14:16] <LjL> !features is <alias> bugs
[14:16] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[14:16] <Pici> :p
[14:20] <LjL> Pici: are you coding your bot? if you wait until i've got enough features into mine, i'll doom you to PHP hell forever :P
[14:21] <Pici> LjL: I haven't started it yet actually.
[14:23] <LjL> Pici: well if you do it use a table with hostname / category / voted package, so we can transfer the DB from mine
[14:23] <Myrtti> LjL: the IRCnet LjL isn't online ;-)
[14:23] <LjL> thanks :)
[14:24] <Myrtti> tshih
[14:25] <Pici> LjL: Will do.
[14:26] <Pici> LjL: I assume that the primary key is hostname?
[14:27] <LjL> Pici: you could assume there's no primary key
[14:27] <LjL> :p
[14:27] <LjL> Pici: but anyway no, the logical primary key would be host+category
[14:27] <LjL> since you *can* vote on more than one category, just not twice on the same category
[14:28] <Pici> LjL: buh, /me needs more caffiene.
[14:28] <ubuntu_> hi i; trying to bqck up ;y files but i cqnt see; to copy to ;y hdd cquse of so;e ristriction
[14:28] <LjL> ubuntu_: ask in #ubuntu, and see if they can help you fix your keyboard too
[14:29] <Pici> LjL: hostname ^^
[14:29] <LjL> ah yes.
[14:29] <ubuntu_> im in cd live i have a french keyboard but the cd live comes default for english
[14:29] <ubuntu_> im on kubuntu
[14:31] <jpatrick> ubuntu_: #kubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-fr ?
[14:35] <LjL> wii, do you have any questions for *this* channel?
[14:40] <ubuntu_> oh sorry
[14:43] <LjL> no "who is wii?"
[14:45] <ompaul> LjL, what you talkin` `bout? ;-)
[14:45] <LjL> ompaul: look at ubuntu_'s hostname
[14:45] <ompaul> ya
[14:46] <Pici> LjL: hes in #ubuntu, I thought he was still banned from there.
[14:46] <LjL> 'parently not
[14:46] <Pici> Removed Dec 18 by PriceChild... tsk tsk
[14:48] <ompaul> it appears it is lying
[14:48] <Pici> Is it still in /bans ?
[14:50] <ompaul> hmm
[14:50] <Pici> What were you talking about?
[14:50] <ompaul> no
[14:50] <Pici> okay
[14:51] <ompaul> it might be very soon - it appears he got himself banned from #kubuntu
[15:38] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !vbox is <alias> virtualbox
[15:38] <Pici> !box is <alias> virtualbox
[15:38] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[15:39] <Jucato> -box
[15:39] <Jucato> !-box
[15:39] <ubotu> box is <alias> virtualbox - added by Pici on 2007-12-26 16:38:39
[15:39] <Pici> I forgot the v
[15:39] <Jucato> :)
[15:39]  * Pici facepalms
[15:40] <Pici> ubotu: forget box
[15:40] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Pici
[15:40] <Pici> !vbox is <alias> virtualbox
[15:40] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[15:40] <Jucato> good bot :)
[15:40] <Jucato> !whoami
[15:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:40] <Jucato> heh
[15:40]  * Pici pats ubotu 
[15:40] <Jucato> %whoami
[15:40] <ubotu> Jucato
[15:40] <Jucato> !botsnack
[15:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[15:43] <LjL> !no virtualbox is <reply> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. The free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. http://www.virtualbox.org/ provides !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper packages of the non-free edition - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[15:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[15:44] <LjL> !no virtualbox is <reply> VirtualBox is virtualization software for x86. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://www.virtualbox.org/ provides for !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[15:44] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[15:47] <LjL> !search wiki.ubuntu.com
[15:47] <ubotu> Found: laptop, themes, tb1.5, uvf, developer, samba, uuid, packagingguide, equivalents, ban
[16:14] <ubotu> In ubotu, bob301 said: !soon is Soon™: A broadly generic description of a length of time between now and the fruition of a promise made by the developers of computer software, especially critical Operating System software. Before being trademarked, the term 'Soon' was much more meaningful, indicating that the event to which the adverb is applied is to happen in the near future. After the trademark was applied to the term, however, any since of urgency
[16:14] <Pici> heh
[16:15] <ompaul> Pici, call me harsh please ;-)
[16:15] <ompaul> see last ban in #ubuntu
[16:15] <Pici> ompaul: you are harsh ;)
[16:15] <Pici> I did ;)
[16:16] <ompaul> you want to troll you get told not to you choose to argue
[16:16] <ompaul> bye
[16:16] <wols> ompaul: I call you an oppressive evil overlord with no soule that has bad karma and will rot in hell
[16:16] <wols> good enough?
[16:16] <ompaul> wols, getting there
[16:16] <ompaul> :)
[16:17] <nalioth> ompaul: go have some fruit cake and relax  :)
[16:17] <wols> I'm just starting in the this, give me time to learn
[16:18] <ompaul> nalioth, you tryin to kill me?
[16:18] <nalioth> ompaul: relaxation never hurt anyone
[16:18] <ompaul> the fruit cake would
[16:20] <euskadi> hi
[16:21] <euskadi> got a question i made a .c file, i compiled it and all work i can launch it in the terminal with ./file but my question is how can i launch it with a click when the file is in the desktop on gnome i'm usin' ubuntu gusty
[16:22] <Pici> euskadi: You have been forwarded to the operators channel, please change your ident and you may join #ubuntu
[16:22] <jpatrick> euskadi: support in #ubuntu
[16:22] <ompaul> no
[16:22] <ompaul> wiii
[16:22] <jpatrick> ah
[16:22] <LjL> ompaul: no
[16:22] <Pici> ompaul: no,
[16:22] <ompaul> ack
[16:22] <Pici> Just some other wanadoo user.
[16:22] <ompaul> however such a user@ is not welcome anyway
[16:22] <Pici> Indeed.
[16:22] <LjL> indeed that's why they're forwarded
[16:23] <ompaul> euskadi, you are in #ubuntu-ops
[16:23] <euskadi> ??
[16:24] <ompaul> euskadi, you are in #ubuntu-ops
[16:24] <euskadi> what do I have to do  ?
[16:24] <Pici> euskadi: Please change your irc client's ident to something other than 'fuckfuck' and you may join the channel.
[16:24] <euskadi> lol
[16:24] <euskadi> ok
[16:24] <Pici> !ohmy
[16:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:24] <ompaul> and fuck is not a good idea either
[16:26] <nalioth> ohmy, he's overdone it, hasn't he?
[16:27] <LjL> !badhostmask is <reply> This is not the channel you intended to join. You have been redirected here because your nickname, username or hostname contains unacceptable language (see « /msg ubotu language »). Please change it, then reconnect to join the correct channel.
[16:27] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[16:27] <Journeyman> for some reason I falsely got tagged for a vuln and am forced to join #ubuntu-read-topic
[16:27] <Journeyman> can someone fix that?
[16:27] <euskadi> back again
[16:27] <LjL> Journeyman: yes
[16:28] <LjL> journeyman: you said falsely?
[16:28] <LjL> euskadi: you're in #ubuntu now. thanks.
[16:28] <Journeyman> erm
[16:28] <Journeyman> intresting
[16:28] <Journeyman> intresting
[16:28] <ompaul> Journeyman, want to be tested?
[16:29] <Journeyman> yes
[16:29] <LjL> not yet, i think
[16:29] <ompaul> I think he did the fix but did not leave the system
[16:29] <ompaul> its okay now
[16:29] <ompaul> let me remove it
[16:29] <LjL> it's not ok
[16:29] <ompaul> or he is lagged
[16:29] <LjL> ompaul: CTCP when testing
[16:29] <ompaul> ack
[16:30] <ompaul> Journeyman, care to fix your client
[16:30] <Journeyman> can do that
[16:30] <Journeyman> hold on
[16:30] <ompaul> then part and come back
[16:30] <Pici> euskadi: Whats up?
[16:30] <ompaul> euskadi,  can we help you in some other way?
[16:31] <Journeyman> ok
[16:31] <Journeyman> how about now
[16:31] <Pici> Theres two of you now.
[16:31] <LjL> Pici: no
[16:31] <Pici> LjL: :p
[16:31] <Myrtti> lol
[16:31] <LjL> Journeyman: try again
[16:31] <LjL> !exploit
[16:31] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[16:32] <Journeyman> I need more details on the exploit to beable to fix it
[16:32] <LjL> Journeyman: err... "change your port to 8001". that seems quite precise instructions to me
[16:32] <ompaul> Journeyman, that web page tells you
[16:32] <Journeyman> yeah that doesn't give me any information
[16:32] <Journeyman> just telling me to change a port to connect to doesn't tell me how to legitimently fix the problem
[16:32] <ompaul> it does
[16:32] <ompaul> enough
[16:33] <LjL> Journeyman: by upgrading your router firmware, if there is an update.
[16:33] <LjL> if there isn't, tough luck, just connect to 8001
[16:33] <Journeyman> but what is the exploit
[16:33] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !ymmv is <reply> ymmv is short for "Your mileage may vary". It means that someone else's experience with compatibility, performance etc. may not necessarily match yours. Also see !wfm
[16:33] <Journeyman> is there a bugtraq site that may have more info?
[16:33] <LjL> Journeyman: sending a malformed DCC request.
[16:34] <wols> Journeyman: the exploit is, the router interprets it as an attack and crashes basically. sucky router
[16:34] <LjL> !ymmv
[16:34] <ubotu> ymmv is short for "Your mileage may vary". It means that someone else's experience with compatibility, performance etc. may not necessarily match yours.
[16:34] <Journeyman> this is different than the older dcc attack that was a buffer overlfow eh
[16:35] <LjL> Journeyman, we're #ubuntu support, not router exploit helpers. we just know we don't want to see tons of users disconnecting from the channel when some fools tries these exploits.
[16:35] <Pici> !ymmv =~ s/yours./yours. Also see !wfm/
[16:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[16:35] <ompaul> come back when you (A) have your router fixed or (B) got yourself a new connection to 8001 and you can research the problem to your hearts delight securely later
[16:36] <Pici> euskadi: This isn't a channel to just idle in, do you have a legitimate question for the channel operators?
[16:39] <LjL> would staff blame me if i kept exploiting him until he learns? >:
[16:39] <ompaul> no
[16:40] <ompaul> euskadi, I'll take the silence as not
[16:40] <LjL> we should get an exploiter bot in -read-topic, periodically exploiting everyone there :P
[16:41] <jpatrick> how does one get '+' here? :)
[16:41] <LjL> actually, make it an entry message *g*
[16:41] <LjL> jpatrick: by being in the irc team
[16:41] <jpatrick> LjL: I am
[16:42] <ompaul> LjL, no it is an exit entry
[16:42]  * ompaul tut tuts
[16:43] <Pici> I'm sure the staff will love that
[16:46] <Journeyman> alright, I have upgraded my firmware, could you test me again
[16:46] <LjL> pffff
[16:47] <LjL> Journeyman: connect to 8001, will you?
[16:47] <Journeyman> erm guess they didn't fix it in that firmware
[16:47] <Journeyman> I perfer to correct the problem, not mask it
[16:48] <LjL> Journeyman: good luck then... but there's no harm in connecting to 8001, anyway. actually i think it's going to be the default for freenode in some ubuntu clients, if it isn't already
[16:48] <Journeyman> I am on more than one irc network, and they don't just let you connect to that port
[16:48] <Pici> Journeyman: freenode does though.
[16:48] <LjL> Journeyman: yeah other networks might be a problem. pester your router maker.
[16:48] <Journeyman> I can't do that without any information on the exploit really
[16:49] <LjL> ok
[16:50] <LjL> Journeyman: a DCC request is sent in the form of a CTCP, containing the string "DCC SEND" or "DCC CHAT" followed by three port numbers. routers try to be "smart" and open ports for you when people DCC you. if instead of the port numbers there is any long enough string, or the port numbers are invalid, hoever, stupid "smart" routers panic and shut down the connection.
[16:50] <Journeyman> http://colloquy.info/project/ticket/531
[16:50] <Journeyman> is that it?
[16:50] <LjL> i suggest you don't try the exploit on this network, if you don't mind being able to join it again
[16:51] <Pici> Journeyman: Yes, thats it.
[16:51] <LjL> Journeyman: yes.
[16:51] <Journeyman> LjL: I have no intentions of using it, I just want to find an real fix
[16:51] <Journeyman> thanks for the help
[16:51] <ompaul> Journeyman, also please be aware you are not getting into #ubuntu until you are immune to the bug, and we have told you how to be immune so if your firmware does not work you are stuck outside until you connect to 8001 on freenode
[16:52] <Journeyman> thats fine, I can use a different nick to join
[16:52] <LjL> i don't think so
[16:52] <Journeyman> I do
[16:52] <LjL> ok
[16:52] <Journeyman> I have already done so
[16:52] <Journeyman> but anyhow, I am on 8001 now
[16:54] <ompaul> LjL, test ;-)
[16:54] <ompaul> Journeyman, have you left the network and rejoined
[16:54] <LjL> ompaul: he's immune
[16:54] <ompaul> LjL, I did all that for nothing
[16:54] <ompaul> wols, you can now laugh out loud :P
[16:55] <wols> ompaul: why?
[16:55] <wols> and if I do, you ban me :P
[16:55] <ompaul> Journeyman, you can join #ubuntu
[16:55] <Pici> ompaul: Can't you do that all on one line?
[16:55] <ompaul> wols, ;-)
[16:55] <Journeyman> thanks
[16:55] <wols> besides: I don#t have a aol hostmast, so I can't laugh out loud
[16:56] <ompaul> :P
[16:56] <ompaul> Pici, please don't do that :P
[16:56] <ompaul> :P
[16:56] <ompaul> correctly shaped insult kept between the :Ps
[16:56] <Pici> Very symmetrical.
[16:56]  * ompaul pours a nice tea for all 
[16:57] <ompaul> right folks it appears I have to go to where there are people and do the visiting thing
[16:57] <ompaul> have fun
[16:57] <ompaul> Journeyman, is there anything else we can help you with?
[16:58] <Journeyman>  suppose not
[16:58] <ompaul> as subtle as a brick going though a plate glass window
[16:58] <ompaul> I gtg later
[16:59] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[16:59] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[16:59] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[17:01] <Pici> nalioth: Resofje (n=asleify@218.24.180.147) = dcc exploiter, your scripty thingy didnt catch it.
[17:02] <LjL> his script is lame
[17:02] <nalioth> Pici: it errs on the side of caution
[17:03] <nalioth> but he's gone now
[17:03] <Pici> nalioth: I know that if you felt that it should get caught, then it would.  Let me know if I can unban.
[17:15] <ullis> uokayy. I'm supposed to ask to be tested if I have fixes that bug exploit. I'm on port 8001 now.
[17:15] <Pici> ullis: hold still please.
[17:15] <Pici> ullis: you appear to pass, one moment.
[17:15]  * ullis is holding her breath
[17:16] <Pici> ullis: you may rejoin #ubuntu, thank you for your time.
[17:17] <mneptok> time me for my thanks
[17:17] <mneptok> ready? go!
[17:17] <mneptok> thanks!
[17:17] <ullis> OK. Thanks, Pici
[17:17] <Pici> 2 seconds ;)
[17:31] <Ariel_Eran> Hi All
[17:31] <jpatrick> hi Ariel_Eran
[17:32] <Ariel_Eran> Hi Jpatrick, I've been speaking with Nalioth, Ompaul, PriceChild and others in the last few days about IRSeek
[17:33] <Ariel_Eran> Jpatrick: I am not sure if you are aware of the status/situation and I wanted to ask them something about our last conversation :)
[17:34] <ubotu> jpatrick called the ops in #kubuntu-devel ()
[17:34] <jpatrick> ignore that ;)
[17:34] <Ariel_Eran> Nalioth/ompaul: are you here by any chance?
[17:34] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: i am
[17:38] <kikr> my router isn't effected by a bug =P
[17:39] <Ariel_Eran> Nalioth: Hi, following our last conversation, I was trying to find out which channels are OK for me to log, and following the guidelines (ubuntulog in channel + UbuntuCouncil shows in info on chanserv) that you guys gave me, it seems that 5 channels are falling under that category, does that seem about right to you?
[17:39] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: yep
[17:41] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: I see, aren't  #kubuntu, and #edubuntu fall under the same category?
[17:44] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: if you find ubuntulog there
[17:44] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: it is present there
[17:44] <nalioth> :)
[17:44] <kikr> can someone unban me from  #ubuntu please
[17:46] <Pici> kikr: hold still
[17:46] <kikr> =)
[17:48] <Tm_T> hi kids and alike
[17:49] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth, I am confused, sorry.  Is any channel that ubuntulog is on OK? I though ompaul mention that the UbuntuCouncil should show on the contact field in the chanserv? :)
[17:49] <kikr> hey
[17:49] <kikr> Pici, you there?
[17:49] <Pici> kikr: sure, hold on
[17:50] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: no.
[17:50] <Pici> kikr: you can now rejoin #ubuntu
[17:50] <kikr> thanks
[17:50] <nalioth> Ariel_Eran: loco channels are off limits until you check with their operators
[17:51] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: yes, except the loco channels.
[17:52] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: so #kubuntu, #edubuntu and others that are non-loco, and ubuntulog is on is fine, right? (sorry to beat this to death, I just want to ensure I am not mistaken)
[17:53] <nalioth> let's stick with #kubuntu for now
[17:53] <nalioth> i'll ask the #edubuntu folks
[17:53] <Ariel_Eran> nalioth: ok, thanks
[17:59] <ubotu> In ubotu, butcherbird said: mc44 is a little known deity worshiped by the Huli people of Papua New Guinea.  A minor fertiliy demon he is best known for his insatiable appetite and strange menagerie of mates.  Acording to local folklore he can most often be found chasing around terrified pigmy goats in the lush coastal swamplands of the island.
[17:59] <jpatrick> ...
[17:59] <Pici> ....
[18:00] <Pici> !botabuse > butcherbird
[18:00] <no0tic> happy easter!
[18:00] <no0tic> :P
[18:00] <jpatrick> unless it's like !nixternal
[18:00] <Pici> !nixternal
[18:00] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[18:05] <Myrtti> as long as you don't invent any "humoresque" factoid about me
[18:33] <jussi01> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[18:34] <Pici> !ompaul
[18:34] <ubotu> ompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy
[18:35] <jussi01> !pici
[18:35] <ubotu> pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Help!
[18:35] <jussi01> !hobbsee
[18:35] <ubotu> I phear the stick so shhhhh
[18:35] <jpatrick> how do i kickban clones?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> That's it.. no more eggnog for you guys...
[18:36] <Pici> jpatrick: your own clones?
[18:36] <jimmygoon> Can you test me for dcc exploit
[18:36] <jpatrick> no (I don't have any :P), but some just appeared in #kubuntu-es
[18:36] <nalioth> jpatrick: you kick clones like you kick anyone else
[18:37] <jimmygoon> er, I'm supposed to come in here so that I can get back into #ubuntu
[18:37] <jpatrick> nalioth: yes, but all at once by ip?
[18:37] <Pici> jimmygoon: yes, correct. hold still please.
[18:37] <Pici> jimmygoon: you pass, congrats
[18:37] <jimmygoon> wooo
[18:37] <Pici> jimmygoon: You can now rejoin #ubuntu
[18:38] <nalioth> jpatrick: you'll need to ban once and kick many times
[18:38] <jimmygoon> Pici, thanks a bunch
[18:38] <jpatrick> nalioth: ah ok
[18:42] <jimmygoon> Can anyone point me in the direction of more info about this dcc exploit? I want to see if there is new firmware for my router that will fix it (I changed the port) and all the hcangelog says is "Resolves issue with how multicast packets with checksum error are being handled."
[18:43] <Pici> !exploit | jimmygoon have you read this?
[18:43] <ubotu> jimmygoon have you read this?: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[18:44] <jimmygoon> Pici, yes, it doesn't go into any technical detail, I had read about it before on a wiki (not sure if it was the ubuntu one) about malformed packets and something or another
[18:46] <Pici> jimmygoon: its just that if a specific string gets sent over port 6667, it drops you, google can help you find more technical information about it.
[18:46] <Pici> We dont discuss that on the wiki page because we know that some people may take advantage of it.
[18:46] <jimmygoon> Pici, of course, thanks again
[18:52] <ubotu> In ubotu, intelikey said: no samba is samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  and  http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html  with detailed information at http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/  - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:53] <Pici> !samba
[18:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:53] <Pici> SR71-Blackbird: Afternoon, how can we help you today?
[18:53] <jpatrick> samba is samba is?
[18:53] <SR71-Blackbird> Pici, i need to check for the DCC exploit
[18:53] <Pici> it is what it is ;)
[18:54] <Pici> SR71-Blackbird: You passs, you may rejoin #ubuntu
[18:54] <SR71-Blackbird> Pici, thanks
[18:55] <SR71-Blackbird> Pici, strange, i got that only from #ubuntu
[18:56] <Pici> SR71-Blackbird: We're the only ones that ban you, force you to fix the problem.
[18:56] <jpatrick> !no, samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:57] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, jpatrick said: !no, samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:57] <SR71-Blackbird> Pici, ok.. that's good.. didn't know abt the exploit tho
[18:57] <Pici> !no, samba is <reply> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:57] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[18:59] <jussi01> ok, so the IRseekbot is ok, isnt it?
[18:59] <Daviey> SWAT - what a pile of poop
[18:59] <Pici> Better than webmin
[19:00] <LjL> jussi01: yes, in #ubuntu at least
[19:00] <Daviey> jussi01: Is it a bot or person?
[19:00] <jussi01> LjL: it just joined #kubuntu
[19:00] <Daviey> he's joined #ubuntu-mythtv aswell
[19:00] <Daviey> Does he need watching?
[19:01] <jussi01> Daviey: I think its the logbot from freenode iirc
[19:01] <Pici> Hes just a log bot
[19:01] <LjL> Daviey: he should only join channels where ubuntulog is there too, and which (at least as a general rule) are owned by the irc council
[19:01] <Pici> from irseek, not freenode.
[19:01] <jussi01> Pici: aghh
[19:01] <Daviey> hmm, who authorised this bot?
[19:01] <LjL> i'd rather see it cloaked but i guess that'll come
[19:01] <LjL> Daviey: we did
[19:01] <Pici> Daviey: Unless of course its not an Ubuntu channel at all, then its not up to us.
[19:01] <Daviey> Would have been nice for an annoncement on the ML
[19:01] <jpatrick> it's on several nonubuntu channels
[19:02] <jpatrick> well 4
[19:02] <Daviey> yeah, but a blanket auth on the ubuntu namespace means there should have been some communication
[19:02] <LjL> Daviey: there was an announcement on freenode's blog for starters... also, it's been discussed in this channel a lot. and no, there's no blanked auth on the whole ubuntu namespace
[19:02] <LjL> only on channel owned by ubuntuirccouncil and with ubuntulog on them
[19:03] <Daviey> so who auth'd it for #ubuntu-mythtv?
[19:03] <Pici> Daviey: Its not a blanket auth, just on the channels we said it could (although I dont remember -mythtv being one of them)
[19:03] <LjL> Daviey: it seems to be owned by the ubuntu irc council.
[19:03] <LjL> is ubuntulog in there?
[19:03] <Daviey> yes
[19:04] <LjL> yes, so it meets all the criteria. perhaps it wasn't supposed to be owned by the irc council to begin with?
[19:05] <LjL> Daviey: also, i thought it's always been our policy (at least on #ubuntu) to only ban bots that *talk*, and just watch (if anything) other suspected bots
[19:05] <Daviey> Is this policy written?
[19:05] <Pici> Thats what I follow...
[19:05] <LjL> nepbabu: need testing?
[19:05] <LjL> Daviey: no, just what i've always seen everyone do
[19:05] <Pici> Daviey: I believe theres a mention of 'no bots' in the irc guidelines page
[19:05] <nepbabu> LjL, nope
[19:06] <Pici> nepbabu: How can we help you then?
[19:06] <Daviey> Pici: thats what i thought
[19:06] <Daviey> no extra bots
[19:07] <nepbabu> LjL, since i wasn't forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic, does it automatically mean that this dcc exploit doesn't affect my router?
[19:07] <Daviey> last i knew IRSeek was pretty unwelcome.. must have missed the mood swing
[19:08] <Tm_T> what it is?
[19:08] <LjL> nepbabu: no, just that you didn't quit when it was last used... i can test you if you want to know
[19:08] <nepbabu> LjL, sure. go ahead
[19:08] <nepbabu> cheers
[19:08] <LjL> nepbabu: you're not exploitable
[19:08] <nepbabu> LjL, :-)
[19:08] <nepbabu> LjL, thanks.
[19:10] <LjL> Daviey, think about it for a second. are you able to stop someone who can obtain a virtually infinite amount of different hosts, running an unlimited amount of bots, with every ability to make those bots effectively go unnoticed?
[19:10] <LjL> i don't think so.
[19:10] <nepbabu> LjL, one last question is that since this DCC feature is not related to router's at all [related to IRC client], why in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [in fix 2:] you guys mention the firmware of the toure?
[19:10] <Daviey> Sorry, did i say you could?  Don't think i questioned that aspect
[19:10] <LjL> i think it's much better to explicitly *allow* such a bot, on the condition that it's identifiable and doesn't log channels that are not supposed to be logged
[19:11] <LjL> Daviey, and what i'm saying is we either allow them in, or they'll get in anyway. of course this is only what i think, though.
[19:11] <LjL> nepbabu, the bug that causes this problem *is* entirely *related* to the router
[19:11] <LjL> nepbabu: it's faulty routers that cause people to disconnected
[19:12] <Daviey> The gripe i have is _communication_ of this change in opinion
[19:13] <nepbabu> so this has nothing to do irc protocol LjL ?
[19:13] <LjL> Daviey: gee, we talked about this *yesterday* in here with the involved party. to be honest i didn't think they'd catch anything except the main channels for a start, and neither that the logging would be effective from today.
[19:13] <LjL> nepbabu: it has to do with the IRC protocol. but it certainly can't be a bug of the IRC protocols... protocols can't have "bugs" =)
[19:13] <nepbabu> LjL, well then protocol's implementation. :-)
[19:14] <LjL> nepbabu: the router thinks it's smart and opens certain ports for you when it detects an IRC DCC request. but if the request is malformed, it crashes..
[19:14] <LjL> nepbabu: no, because the protocol implementation resides on your IRC client and on the IRC server
[19:14] <LjL> neither of which has any bug related to this exploit
[19:14] <Daviey> LjL: My appologies for not being here xmas day...
[19:15] <LjL> Daviey: my apologies for not spending my xmas day writing letters to the ML
[19:15] <LjL> though, no, i didn't mean yesterday. the day before.
[19:15] <Daviey> appology accepted
[19:15] <nepbabu> LjL, how would a dcc 'syn' make it through the router? it should not afaik
[19:15] <LjL> nepbabu: not sure what you mean there
[19:16] <LjL> everything goes through the router, does it not
[19:16] <nepbabu> LjL, at the lowest level we have tcp right?
[19:16] <nepbabu> LjL, i mean for dcc
[19:16] <LjL> nepbabu: at the lowest level we have IP i guess
[19:16] <nepbabu> that's one level below ip :)
[19:16]  * Pici has ethernet cables
[19:16] <nepbabu> i mean for dcc
[19:16] <LjL> nepbabu: usually for "below" i mean low-level protocols, and for "above" i mean higher-level ones, but...
[19:17] <LjL> Pici: yeah but if we consider the entire connection chain between server and client, the lowest common denominator is IP. anyway...
[19:17] <LjL> nepbabu, look, a dcc chat or send is estabilished like this
[19:17] <nepbabu> LjL, so.. i was wondering how dcc 'syn' packets from someone else make it through the 'router' when the actual person sitting behind the router hasn't even acknowledged it.
[19:18] <nepbabu> LjL, go ahead. =)
[19:18] <LjL> nepbabu: 1) one peer sends to the other peer a PRIVMSG (i.e. via the IRC server) containing the DCC request, and a list of ports to be used for estabilishing the DCC connection 2) the other peer tries to connect to the given port
[19:18] <LjL> nepbabu: since many routers do stateful inspection, and know that stuff that goes through port 6667 is generally IRC, they "grep" for the DCC request strings
[19:19] <LjL> when they find one, they open (forward) the ports mentioned there
[19:19] <nepbabu> hmm...
[19:19] <LjL> so that the DCC transfer can happen even if one is behind a router that doesn't normally allow inbound connections
[19:19] <nepbabu> so that means the dcc goes through anyway
[19:19] <nepbabu> and now it's left upto the client. huh?
[19:19] <LjL> however, this "grep" is broken, and also detects strings that are NOT valid DCC requests strings
[19:19] <LjL> these strings make the router crash
[19:20] <LjL> nepbabu: when an exploit is being attempted, there is no DCC at all. there's just the PRIVMSG request.
[19:20] <LjL> or NOTICE or what it is, i think it's NOTICE really
[19:20] <nepbabu> hmm..
[19:21] <nepbabu> LjL, is there some documentation i find on this?
[19:21] <LjL> Daviey: anyway look, are you a -mythtv op? i think so. are you among the few active ops of the channel? i suspect so. do you want to bot to leave? make it.
[19:21] <LjL> nepbabu: no idea
[19:22] <jpatrick> !dccexpliot | nepbabu
[19:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dccexpliot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:22] <Pici> jpatrick: hes read the page
[19:25] <jpatrick> ah, sorry
[19:31] <Pici> LjL: was he already banned? the nick looked a bit familiar
[19:31] <LjL> Pici: many times
[19:31] <LjL> Pici: /mode #ubuntu-ops b
[19:40] <nepbabu> LjL, thanks for a good explanation on dcc :-) i couldn't find any specifications though. :(
[19:49] <bmbernie> How do I register my nick?
[19:50] <Pici> !register | bmbernie
[19:50] <ubotu> bmbernie: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:51] <nepbabu> bmbernie, also, /msg nickserv help
[19:51] <nepbabu> ok guys.. laters
[19:51] <Pici> Bye.
[19:51] <jussi01> Hmmm, I would like to see a #kubuntu-kde4 channel - there seem to be so many kde4 q's in #kubuntu. what do you guys think?
[19:52] <effie_jayx> hey guys...
[19:52] <effie_jayx> could someone help...
[19:52] <Pici> I think that #kubuntu moves at a snails pace compared to #ubuntu, but it might be a good idea, or perhaps a #kubuntu+1 channel
[19:52] <nalioth> what's the matter with #kde4 ?
[19:52] <effie_jayx> someone left a note on #suse-es
[19:52] <effie_jayx> on the topic...
[19:52] <Pici> effie_jayx: hrm?
[19:52] <nalioth> kde4 isn't supported officially, so why not?
[19:53] <effie_jayx> it reads.. "this channel is abandoned, you're best bet is to use UBUNTU"
[19:53] <effie_jayx> that's not nice...
[19:55] <jussi01> nalioth: its jsut there are so many issues like !brokenkde4 that are specific to our packages
[19:55] <Pici> effie_jayx: I'm in #suse-ops, letting them know.
[19:57] <effie_jayx> Pici: it's just out of decency
[19:57] <nalioth> well, kde4 isn't officially supported (even though it's available in the repos) yet
[19:57] <Pici> I know. I said "I'm all for getting more people into #ubuntu, but thats not the way of doing it"
[19:59] <effie_jayx> thanks Pici
[19:59] <Pici> effie_jayx: I'll let you know what I hear, since no one has responded yet.
[20:02] <effie_jayx> Pici:  strange the state of not carign
[20:02] <effie_jayx> caring...
[20:03] <Pici> They don't own it, seems someone named molinero does.
[20:03] <effie_jayx> If molinero is an ubuntero...
[20:04] <effie_jayx> would he get us into trouble?
[20:04] <Pici> I think he'd just get himself in trouble.
[20:04] <effie_jayx> he is a user in kateos
[20:04] <effie_jayx> he owns #kateos-es
[20:05] <effie_jayx> but if pos in suse don't care...
[20:07] <LjL> he's not an ubuntu member so who cares
[20:07] <LjL> the #suse* contacts should probably be notified of that interesting topic though
[20:07] <Pici> LjL: I told #suse-ops about it, they didn't really seem to care
[20:08] <LjL> Pici: maybe it's not under their jurisdiction to begin with
[20:08] <Pici> Perhaps
[20:10] <LjL> Pici: i'll just leave apokryphos a note
[20:10] <LjL> he's an op there
[20:10] <Pici> Ah, good thinking
[20:10] <effie_jayx> LjL:  telling people in #suse ???
[20:11] <LjL> effie_jayx: hm?
[20:11] <effie_jayx> miguel icaza speaks spanish...
[20:11] <effie_jayx> and does he not use suse?
[20:11] <LjL> effie_jayx: apokryphos is a #suse operator though
[20:11] <LjL> and one we certainly know pretty well
[20:12] <effie_jayx> LjL:  great...
[20:12] <effie_jayx> I did my thing...
[20:12] <effie_jayx> ;)
[20:21] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, fsanlu said: ubotu.. why is the sky so blue?
[20:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, mitchp said: why is the sky blue
[20:22] <jpatrick> it's a reflection of the sea
[20:26] <effie_jayx> jpatrick:  it's kde inspired... ??? :D
[20:28] <jpatrick> hehe
[20:36] <Amaranth> wait, when did we have a meeting to discuss this stupid irseek thing?
[20:36] <Taggard> What does being a member of the ubuntu project mean?
[20:37] <Amaranth> You mean you want a cloak?
[20:37] <Amaranth> !member
[20:37] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[20:37] <Taggard> I don't want a cloak but I want to know what having a member cloak means
[20:38] <Amaranth> read that link anyway
[21:03] <Myrtti> I'm still not sure should I apply
[21:04] <Gary> Amaranth, nalioth was speaking about it over the last few days
[21:15] <LiraNuna> hi
[21:15] <LiraNuna> I fixed my router long time ago
[21:15] <LjL> let's test
[21:15] <LiraNuna> and I get redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic
[21:16] <LjL> LiraNuna: you didn't seem to fix it well enough
[21:16] <LiraNuna> oh
[21:16] <LiraNuna> it's not the DCC SEND <long string> ?
[21:16] <LjL> yes, it is.
[21:16] <LiraNuna> would you care to educate me?
[21:16] <LjL> and, don't type that in channels.
[21:17] <LjL> !exploit | LiraNuna
[21:17] <ubotu> LiraNuna: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[21:17] <LiraNuna> I meant more about the inner working of it
[21:17] <LiraNuna> I'm intrigued as a coder
[21:18] <LjL> LiraNuna, third time i try to explain that to people today... google has answers, really
[21:18] <LiraNuna> Fix 2: Updating Firmware
[21:18] <LjL> we're not here to teach people exploits
[21:18] <LiraNuna> fair enough
[21:19] <Taggard> Some does exploit -> Router is sad -> Router cry :( and need break from work
[21:20] <LiraNuna> I updated my firmware two weeks ago
[21:20] <LiraNuna> if I wouldn't have v5.0, I'd install linux on it
[21:21] <LiraNuna> Firmware Version: v1.02.2
[21:21] <Myrtti> router goes boohoo
[21:21] <Myrtti> :-C
[21:21] <Myrtti> erm *krhmm*
[21:23] <Myrtti> do continue
[21:23]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[21:24] <Myrtti> LiraNuna: that's life
[21:25]  * jussi01 sends Myrtti nice flowers (friendly) 
[21:25] <Myrtti> hmmm, where's my Ikea catalogue
[21:28] <LiraNuna> :<
[21:28] <LiraNuna> good thing people at EFnet didn't find it out
[21:28] <LiraNuna> or is it FreeNode spesific? I read that changing port solves it
[21:29] <LjL> LiraNuna: it doesn't have anything to do with any specific network. it has to do with the fact that your routers listens on port 6667, but not on 8001, which freenode keeps open to that purpose.
[21:29] <Pici> I've seen some irc servers be able to detect and remove people who try to exploit it, but its definitly not freenode specific.
[21:29] <LiraNuna> ah
[21:41] <LjL> LiraNuna, look, meanwhile anyway can you just connect to 8001 so we can let you back in #ubuntu?
[21:41] <LiraNuna> I'd rather upgrade my router to fix it instead of avoiding it
[21:41] <LjL> LiraNuna, connecting to 8001 will cause no harm anyway. and if you updated it two weeks ago, i doubt there is an update that fixes it.
[21:41] <LiraNuna> sorry for lurking...
[21:42] <LjL> the exploit's been around for *much* longer than two weeks.
[21:42] <LiraNuna> meh, brb
[21:45] <LiraNuna> test please
[21:53] <white_eagle> LjL, please leave me banned for 7 days, to learn my lesson
[21:53] <white_eagle> OK?
[21:53] <LjL> ok
[21:53] <white_eagle> thanks
[21:54] <LjL> bash.org?
[22:01] <tritium> How are things, LjL?
[22:02] <LjL> afraid i'm getting a cold :|
[22:02] <tritium> Oh no!  Sorry to hear that.
[22:02] <LjL> at least i made until christmas without one though
[22:02] <tritium> That is a good thing, yes.
[22:02] <LjL> and i made a kewl new bot as christmas present to ubuntuers too :P
[22:03] <effie_jayx> Pici: #suse-es update... a developer came in .. looked "hmmm"ed and left...
[22:03] <LjL> heh
[22:03] <tritium> LjL: is that the IRSeeK one?
[22:03] <LjL> tritium: nah that's not mine... mine is in -bots
[22:04] <tritium> ah, okay.  What does your bot do?
[22:04] <LjL> tritium: everything best
[22:04] <tritium> Nice.  Name?
[22:04] <LjL> tritium: ^
[22:05] <tritium> hah, great!
[22:05] <LjL> what's the best tritium?
[22:05] <BestBot> LjL, you said tritium? I don't know...
[22:05] <BestBot> I know what's the best audio player, irc client, web browser, text editor, BitTorrent client, desktop environment, image editor, video player, shell, package manager, scripting language, login manager, office suite, IRC client, console text editor, calculator, file manager, game (and others with less than 3 votes, type « list all categories » to see them all)
[22:05] <nalioth> O_O
[22:05] <no0tic> does irseek continue to log everything?
[22:05] <nalioth> i know a bot that best be on its way . . .
[22:05] <LjL> no0tic: they've just started actually
[22:05] <LjL> nalioth: yeah yeah it'll go :P
[22:06] <nalioth> no0tic: that has been dealt with
[22:06] <nalioth> no0tic: blog.freenode.net
[22:06] <no0tic> LjL, what are you doin'? -bots exists for such things :P
[22:06] <LjL>  /cs drop #ubuntu-bots
[22:06] <no0tic> nalioth, uh, I'm not synced :) I last read freenode recruiting
[22:36] <effie_jayx> nalioth:  could you help us with a situation... in #suse-es there is a pretty provocative banner about Ditching SUSE and using Ubuntu...
[22:37] <nalioth> effie_jayx: look in #freenode please
[22:37] <effie_jayx> nalioth:  cool.. I was just helping him.. ;)
[22:37] <effie_jayx> thanjs
[22:38] <nalioth> too much paddling muddies the water
[22:42] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-bots, hdevalence said: !what is the best browser
[22:43] <hdevalence> err I think I made a mistake in #ubuntu-bots
[22:44] <hdevalence> it gave me a message "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail"
[22:44] <hdevalence> I didn't want to edit anything
[22:45] <nalioth> we know, hdevalence :)
[22:45] <ardchoille> hdevalence: In order for that edit to make it into the bot, someone has to look at it and give the bot a command to accept it. Looking at your line shows that it clearly was a mistake and will be overlooked instead of edited. Not a problem.
[22:46] <effie_jayx> nalioth: he didn't tell me he was contacting you guys...
[22:46] <effie_jayx> didn't mean to bug
[22:47] <nalioth> we're working on it, effie_jayx
[23:16]  * PriceChild waves
[23:17] <ompaul> PriceChild, sooooo slow
[23:17] <ompaul> :)
[23:18] <PriceChild> ompaul, I'm sorry :(
[23:19] <PriceChild> ompaul, What'd you get for Christmas?!?
[23:19] <ompaul> stuff I'll list in a mo
[23:21] <PriceChild> hehe, firing up paste.ubuntu-nl.org before I remove you for flooding?
[23:21] <ompaul> that is an idea
[23:23] <Gary> I got news that i'm gonna be an uncle again :-)))
[23:26] <PriceChild> Haha ompaul gave me a pastebin link :)
[23:26] <PriceChild> wooo congrats Gary
[23:26] <PriceChild> ompaul, picz of the hat or it didn't happen
[23:27] <ompaul> PriceChild, have a look at this and fear IPv4 dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
[23:28] <ompaul> PriceChild, did I mention the car upgrade
[23:28] <ompaul> :)
[23:28] <PriceChild> ompaul, ah I saw that a month ago or so... really good :D
[23:28] <ompaul> PriceChild, the car was last thursday
[23:28] <PriceChild> nope
[23:28] <PriceChild> hehe its all good
[23:33] <Gary> ompaul, me wanna see listy too
[23:33] <ompaul> Gary, woops :P
[23:41] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (UNCLETOMM)
[23:42] <PriceChild> (just testing chanserv.py is working)
[23:43]  * PriceChild chomps down on some chocolate money
[23:52] <nalioth> anyone use adv_windowlist.pl ?