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ArtimusTonren: You know nothing about Microsoft00:00
ArtimusAt all00:00
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Schuenemannbug free? ha ha ha...00:00
Schuenemanntypical FUD going on00:00
ArtimusEver hear someone apologize for Vista?  "Can I burn a DVD in Nero on your box?" "No, Vista doesn't work with Nero yet...".  You release a product that's good enough to not drive your customers away.  If it's easier for them to stick with your software than switch to someone else's, you keep them as a customer.00:01
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BluesKajBalmer is threatening the open source community with lawsuits again...c'mon steve put yer money where yer mouth is !00:02
Schuenemann_awayjack balmer?00:02
TonrenArtimus: Look, I'm not saying that closed source is inherently superior or any nonsense like that.  I'm just saying that open & closed source both have their own pros and cons.00:02
ardchoille!ot00:02
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!00:02
BluesKajsteve balmer00:04
BluesKajMS head honcho00:04
ArtimusBluesKaj: This isn't Kubuntu related, ardchoille is correct...  Discussion should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic00:04
ArtimusAlthough I'm not seeing a whole lot of questions at the moment.  Someone ask something...00:05
BluesKajoops ...my apologies...got carried away :)00:05
ardchoilleThe absence of support questions is irrelevent, ot is ot.00:06
BluesKajgeez, it's christmas....00:06
hydrogenchristianity is off topic00:07
hydrogen.00:07
paperfunkhaha00:08
BluesKajJesus would use linux...absolutely !00:08
paperfunkthere is no one in kubuntu offtopic00:08
paperfunkjesus is open source00:08
hydrogenand what in the world does that have to do with kubuntu support?00:09
hydrogenunless you want help installing jesus on your machine00:09
hagabakahow do I do that?00:10
Tonren"Bless this thy kernel, father"00:10
BluesKajtried the opera bowser but it's not doing java sites too well, and I've done all the tutorial stuff that's relavent ...i think00:11
numpyLOL00:11
BluesKajjava-heavy00:11
Artimusardchoille: Correct, it is offtopic.  But I hate seeing a dead channel.  In abscence of OT, someone should ask something to give us something to do...00:12
numpy..install Jesus00:12
numpyhaha00:12
numpysorry.. that was great00:12
BluesKajuntil the flashplugin is fixed for firefox I 'm not bothering with it ... konq is the one for now00:12
paperfunkhow do you toggle to a terminal?00:12
paperfunklike complete terminal mode, not in x00:13
numpycntl-alt Fx paperfunk00:13
paperfunkdoesnt work00:13
ardchoillepaperfunk: ctrl+alt+f100:13
BluesKajctrl+alt+F200:13
ArtimusI'm guessing that worked00:13
ArtimusSo, did you guys think to tell him how to get BACK?00:14
BluesKajf2 works fer me00:14
BluesKajhe din't ask00:14
Artimus...00:14
ArtimusI hope he at least tries "Ctrl+Alt+Del" instead of using the power button...00:14
ardchoilleArtimus: I didn't think of that, I'll have to remember that in the future00:14
ArtimusHis filesystem shouldn't have to suffer...00:14
hydrogenchvt 700:14
numpyyeah good point00:14
hydrogenchvt 100:15
Artimushydrogen: I get more satisfaction from using the keys, personally00:15
BluesKajpaperfunk, to get back to the desktop ,ctrl+alt+F700:15
hydrogenapparently you need to be root to do that however00:15
hydrogenthats kind of unexpected..00:15
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ueilahii00:16
Artimushydrogen: X runs as root...  You're messing with the box, not just your "session"00:16
hydrogenright00:16
hydrogenbut its still unexpected00:16
hydrogenthat you need root00:16
hydrogento change between virtual terminals00:16
BluesKajI assume paperfunk is using a terminal/TTY irc client like irssi00:16
ardchoillehydrogen: You don't need to be root to change tty's00:17
numpywelp looks like paperfunk got lost..00:17
hydrogenardchoille: yes, you do00:17
hydrogentry it00:17
hydrogenchvt 100:17
hydrogenas a user00:17
ardchoillehydrogen: Just tried it works fine as a user.00:17
hydrogenardchoille: how did you try it?00:17
hydrogenyou tried chvt or the keys?00:17
ardchoillectrl+alt+f100:17
ArtimusI get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console"00:17
hydrogenright00:18
Artimus...00:18
hydrogenardchoille: thats because the x server runs as root00:18
Artimusardchoille: That's run as root00:18
ardchoilleThat's word play. Any normal user can switch tty's00:18
ArtimusBluesKaj: If someone can't switch virtual terminals, there's a low chance they'd use irssi...00:18
hydrogenno00:18
hydrogenusers can't switch ttys00:18
hydrogenyou need root privledges00:18
Artimusardchoille: No.  Anyone sitting at a keyboard can00:18
BluesKajhmm my Xserver sucks ..it flickers like mad00:18
hydrogento switch between virtual terminals00:19
hydrogenand I'm surprised at that00:19
BluesKajon the TTY that is00:19
hydrogenbut it doesn't change the fact00:19
hydrogenthat you do00:19
ArtimusBluesKaj: Gutsy, I'm guessing?00:19
BluesKajyup00:19
ArtimusI've had some issues with it too...00:19
ArtimusCan't remember what I did, probably some ugly hack to fix it...00:20
ArtimusWell, editing files.  Kind of ugly in the sense of "not user friendly, I wouldn't want to share this as practical advice"00:20
BluesKajArtimus, well what did you do, just for curiosity's sake00:21
TuxManI'm Back! that was some gooood homemade chili00:21
ArtimusBluesKaj: I think I set vga=normal when I boot...  I tried another value, but there's *ANOTHER* Gutsy bug when setting vga= that will cause blank tty's00:22
TuxMandinner is always yummy at my house  :-P00:22
ArtimusI turned off the splash and quiet in grub as well..00:22
BluesKajok, NM :)00:22
Artimusyeah...00:22
ArtimusPretty ugly00:22
BluesKajsplash and quiet eh ..hmm , gonna check00:22
ArtimusGets rid of the pretty Kubuntu boot screen, though00:23
ArtimusHave to on my laptop...  333mhz, oh yeah...00:23
ArtimusAnyway, I've heard of a new kernel feature that lets you only give certain root priviledges to programs.  So, ping won't have to be suid root anymore...  Hopefully that'll help out X as well...00:23
hydrogeninteresting00:24
ArtimusRight now, all of ping runs as root because it needs one little root feature.  So now, it will only get permission to do that.00:25
ardchoilleArtimus: Isn't that similar to what apparmor does?00:25
BluesKajchecking this out00:26
Artimusno idea00:26
ArtimusI've got it from the mailing lists, let me look...00:26
TuxMan... I HATE compiling QT00:26
TuxManweighing down my comp for hours now00:26
Artimusyup00:26
Artimus"Removing SUID on binaries that don't need it"00:26
Artimushttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2007-October/thread.html00:28
TuxManOoo00:28
TuxMan<><00:29
TuxManah! paperfunk is back!00:29
TuxMan>.<00:29
paperfunk*bows*00:29
harryanyone know where the kde sound settings configuration file is?00:30
Artimuspaperfunk: Please tell me you didn't have to hard power cycle your box...00:30
TuxMan/sound/sound/sound.config00:30
paperfunkyeah, guilty00:30
BluesKajharry,  or system settings/soundsystem00:30
ArtimusLesson of the day: If you're going to tell someone how to switch to a virtual terminal, tell them that Ctrl+Alt+F7 switches back to X00:30
paperfunki couldnt get back into x, haha00:30
TuxMan :-P00:30
paperfunkhahaha00:30
ardchoilleArtimus: Noted00:30
Artimus(Alt+F7 might do it, actually...)00:31
BluesKajctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop, paperfunk00:31
ArtimusYou need Ctrl+Alt to go from X to Terminal, but only Alt to get back00:31
TuxMan!automake00:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:31
ardchoillepaperfunk: My appologies, I neglected to tell you to ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x00:31
ArtimusJust to nitpick00:31
paperfunkits not your fault00:31
hydrogenyou can use ctrl though :)00:31
Artimushydrogen is correct, an extra control won't hurt it...00:31
TuxManha dumb bot doesnt know automake!00:31
paperfunkyeah, i hate running bx in a term window00:31
hydrogenbetter to have more control if you know what i mean!00:31
paperfunkbut i have that ironed out now00:31
Artimuspaperfunk: Why, if I may ask?00:32
BluesKajwell, commenting out splash and quiet wasn't enuff to stop the flickering :(00:32
TuxMan!xephyr00:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:32
ardchoille!info automake | TuxMan00:32
ubotutuxman: automake: A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 (gutsy), package size 360 kB, installed size 1460 kB00:32
harryBluesKaj: the kde sound syste settings00:32
paperfunkim not real sure, its sorta hard to read00:32
hydrogenautohell--00:32
ArtimusBluesKaj: hmm...  nvidia card by any chance?00:32
paperfunki need to change all my konsole settings and ill probablyh like it better00:32
Artimusyeah, you can increase the font somewhere I'm sure00:32
BluesKajyes harry . kmenu/system settings/soundsystem00:32
paperfunkyeah00:33
harryBluesKaj: no, i mean the file where the sttings are kept00:33
BluesKajArtimus, no...ATI junky onboard X200G00:33
harryBluesKaj: somewhere in .kde00:33
BluesKajasoundrc?00:34
ArtimusBluesKaj: It's probably the same issue...  You've probably got a little 2D framebuffer driver loaded that conflicts...  On my nvidia card, I used to blacklist nvidiafb (the 2D nvidia framebuffer driver)00:34
ArtimusBluesKaj: Just for laughs...  "lsmod | grep fb"00:34
BluesKajno output , Artimus00:35
ArtimusBluesKaj: I tried...  Nevermind then, I've got nothing, sorry00:35
BluesKajArtimus, it's ok , i'm just happy that the restricted driver runs google earth , altho very slow and clunky00:36
TuxManwho died?00:36
ArtimusI recently switched boxes, I've got an old Nvidia FX5200...  Works great in Google Earth.  I'm really a fan of the restricted driver manager, one of the best things I've seen in a while.00:36
TuxMannVidia GeForce FX 5200?00:37
TuxManthats same as mine  :-D00:37
TuxMan :-D00:37
ArtimusCheap card, but it's worked pretty well for me so far...00:37
TuxManyeah, not too pricey, but works fine with GL00:38
BluesKajyeah, the so called new proprietary advanced ati 8.43linux driver does do anything on my setup, no fgl_glxgears or DRI , nothing like Feisty00:38
BluesKajerr doesn't00:39
ArtimusBluesKaj: I just ran regular glxgears on an ATI box, worked ok...00:39
ArtimusAny idea what the difference is?00:39
BluesKajyup, it works on this one , with the restricted default driver00:39
BluesKaj8.37 ati00:40
BluesKajI get the spinning 3D cube with fgl_glxgears , so I know the driver is almost there but not quire00:41
ArtimusThe bitterness between KDE and Kubuntu is kind of a bummer...  The KDE guys seem really unhappy with all of the non-core changes that Kubuntu makes...  I guess it makes sense, they probably get a lot of Kubuntu specific questions.  I guess it's too optimistic to hope for better relations between the two projects...00:41
ArtimusBluesKaj: What happens when you run regular glxgears with the later driver?00:41
BluesKajArtimus, dunno00:41
BluesKajif I recall , it does work00:42
ArtimusI got 2500fps on an ATI card with the restricted drivers in Gutsy...  Same as my 520000:42
ArtimusToo bad the ATI card is a heck of a lot newer than my FX card00:42
BluesKajgetting only 1100 fps with glxgears here00:44
Funkydan5I hear you can use this place for help on Dell and such..?00:44
BluesKajDell Linux/kubuntu ?00:44
ArtimusBluesKaj: This was a brand new PCI Express card...00:44
ArtimusI thought Dell sold regular Ubuntu...00:45
BluesKajoooh00:45
Funkydan5Well... They said Linux but I am not, because there is no Dell IRC Chat00:45
Funkydan5And it is rather important someone helps if anyone is knowledgable in the XP area00:45
ArtimusFunkydan5: You'd want the channel #Ubuntu00:45
Funkydan5K awesome ty ty ^^00:45
ArtimusGood luck00:46
Funkydan5ty00:46
BluesKajFunkydan5, try #windows00:46
* genii pours some eggnog in his coffee and sips00:46
ArtimusBluesKaj: I'm guessing it's a dual boot issue, he'll want #Ubuntu first00:46
angelsofdusthttp://www.cybertown.com/cgi-bin/jail/place?plc=jail&ac=place&ID=0000000000000033&force=s00:47
artur_A common PC has a battery that cares of the clock. In a Laptop, the same happens.  Is the battery for both cases the same?00:47
* BluesKaj wonders how genii sleeps at night :)00:47
geniiBluesKaj: Not much last night for sure...boxing day00:47
BluesKajget any deals , genii ?00:48
geniiBluesKaj: 1Tb external $19900:48
BluesKajoooh00:48
TuxManaw, cmon! I killed compiz fusion to make my comp faster and now the panel is gone!00:49
TuxManand the window dekoration00:49
geniiBluesKaj: But I get oftopic :)00:49
Artimusartur_: Well, it depends, not all desktops have the little watch battery looking things anymore.  No guarantee a laptop will either.00:49
BluesKajnetwork server genii ?00:49
genii*offtopic00:49
geniiBluesKaj: Streaming media for pvr00:50
BluesKajright00:50
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whiteflame74hello00:51
geniiTuxMan: Did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker           ?00:52
artur_Artimus: hmm...i see!00:52
Artimusartur_: Why, did your's die?00:52
artur_so i'm gonna check,,,00:52
m1k3I need help, when ever I install wine the .wine directory never gets put there00:53
Artimusm1k3: winecfg00:53
Artimusm1k3: It would also automatically create one the first time you run a program...00:53
artur_no, my sister's laptop is always with the watch changed....00:53
m1k3Artimus, it freezes when I try any executable or winecfg00:53
TuxManI cant do anything that will slow comp down. im compiling QT4 for KDE400:53
Artimusm1k3: What's it say?00:53
m1k3Artumus, nothing00:54
Artimusartur_: It loses time?00:54
m1k3Artimus, it locks up00:54
ArtimusAre you sure, it takes a while to run...00:54
artur_Artimus: yes...00:54
ArtimusIt should say something like "Creating .wine directory..."  When you're back at a prompt again, it should be good.00:54
m1k3Arimus, Yes I'm positive it just stays there00:54
MilitantPotatoartur_: http://repair4laptop.org/notebook_battery.html00:55
m1k3Artimus, as soon as it says that, it freezes00:55
* unix_lappy is at an open ap hacking a mac.00:55
artur_Artimus: the same happens with the Date00:55
MilitantPotatoartur_: changing that will void your warrenty probably.00:55
Artimusartur_: You might want to look into NTP.  It'll sync the clock with the internet.  Kind of nice on boxes where the battery can't be replaced.00:55
Artimusm1k3: How long did you let it sit there?00:55
m1k3Artimus, a long time00:57
m1k3Artimus, I know it's locked up because the mouse doesn't move and no response from keyboard00:57
Artimusm1k3: That's a bad sign...  Sounds like hardware00:57
m1k3Artimus, well it was working until I installed new RAM and a DVD burner00:58
Artimuswinecfg creates a bunch of files...  That is not going to lock up Linux...  Unless you've got a kernel bug that doesn't handle harddrive access...00:58
artur_Artimus: hmmm...indeed. I'm gonna try!  Thanks very much. Now i'm going! Bye!00:58
Ankthepoti need some advice to decide btw 64bit or 32bit00:58
m1k3Watch when I try00:58
m1k3IT's gonna freeze00:58
Artimusm1k3: stop00:58
Artimusm1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"00:58
ArtimusYou should see a choice called "memtest86"00:59
ArtimusSelect that.  If you see any red lines, your memory is bad00:59
ArtimusI believe it's escape to reboot again.00:59
ArtimusLeave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.00:59
m1k3Artimus, it said "CReateing wine configureation "home/m1k3/.wine" then it froze01:01
m1k3Artimus, I had to restart01:02
Artimusm1k3: You didn't get my messages then01:02
Artimus[18:58] <Artimus> m1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"01:02
Artimus[18:59] <Artimus> You should see a choice called "memtest86"01:02
Artimus[18:59] <Artimus> Select that.  If you see any red lines, your memory is bad01:02
Artimus[18:59] <Artimus> I believe it's escape to reboot again.01:02
Artimus[18:59] <Artimus> Leave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.01:02
m1k3Ok01:03
m1k3What do I do if my memory is bad?01:03
kyeAnyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?01:03
paperfunkis cedega less of a ram hog than wine for gaming?01:03
Artimusm1k3: How many sticks of RAM do you have?01:03
m1k3201:03
m1k31 gig and a 25601:03
Artimuspaperfunk: Shouldn't make a difference01:03
paperfunkok, i guess its not working paying for then01:04
Artimusm1k3: Try it, if you see red lines, let me know, we'll go from there.  If I should have to disconnect, let someone else know what's going on, tell them your memory is bad and you want to find out which stick is bad.  They'll know how to  help you.01:04
m1k3ok01:04
MilitantPotatoMixing ram modules is generally a bad idea isn't it?01:04
ArtimusMilitantPotato: Not really...  If you want Dual Channel, you need the same speed.  Otherwise, no big deal01:05
ArtimusSpeed and size...01:05
AnkthepotArtimus: i'm using intel core 2 duo t5600 cpu, is kubuntu...amd64.iso the one i'm lookin for?01:05
MilitantPotatonah01:06
ArtimusAnkthepot: Sure.  But i386 would work too.01:06
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ArtimusAMD64 if you want your OS to be 64-bit01:06
MilitantPotatounless you have a specific need for the 64bit version, the i386 will save you a lot of headaches.01:06
AnkthepotArtimus: ok thanks alot01:06
ArtimusI haven't had an issue either way.  i386 is easier.  Your call.  People can generally help you if there are any specific 64-bit issues01:07
AnkthepotMilitantPotato: ah, not a real need but just want to give it a try...01:07
MilitantPotatoTrue, I managed to get 64bit working well, firefox was the biggest hassle01:07
MilitantPotatofirefox with flash*01:07
ArtimusAnkthepot: Flash might take a little extra work, that's all.01:07
Ankthepothmm, so it's nothing impossible, just a bit work then?01:08
MilitantPotatoif you're half way decent with linux it's worth a shot01:08
CheGuevarajava01:08
Ankthepotbut anyway, if it won't worth that work (in terms of performance) i will go with i38601:08
MilitantPotatowon't gain much other then the ability to use over 4gb of System Memory01:08
Ankthepoti'm not experienced on any kinds of ubuntu01:09
whiteflame74can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong with samba01:09
ArtimusAnkthepot: I'd go i386 if you can...01:09
MilitantPotatoAnkthepot: maybe .5%-1%, in a few things.01:09
tekteenwhiteflame74: sure01:09
Ankthepotoh well, then i'm goin for i386 :)01:09
tekteenwhiteflame74: what is the problem?01:09
MilitantPotatoDid the same :P01:09
MilitantPotatoweird.01:10
AnkthepotMilitantPotato: hehe :)01:10
MilitantPotatowinecfg gave me the error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".01:10
Artimuswhiteflame74: Go ahead and ask.01:10
MilitantPotatoIs that from lack of direct rendering?01:10
ArtimusMilitantPotato: Does glxgears work on your box?01:10
MilitantPotatoyep.01:10
ArtimusMaybe...01:10
Artimushmm...  Let me quick look at my xorg.conf01:11
ArtimusOne second, I'm lagging a bit...  I tried to load two virtual machines up in vmware at once...  Swapping, horribly...01:11
tekteenwhiteflame74: u here?01:11
ArtimusMilitantPotato: Can you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  Look at the problem for a section called DRI.  It probably says something like Mode 0666.  Is that in there?01:12
whiteflame74yeah, I'm here.    I've set up Samba, and all and on the windows machine I can see the workgroup, I can see this machine, and I can see the folders but when I click on them I get a network path not found error01:12
TuxManthe stuff that works... works.01:12
W8TAHgood evening folks -- having a few little oddities in my kubuntu box -- earlier today, while running Pidgin, Konversation, and adjusting the clock, ARTS Crashed reporting a CPU overload -- second or third time this has happened in the last several days, can anyone provide input on troubleshooting or repairs?01:12
MilitantPotatoArtimus: nah, I'm using the ATI drivers w/o AIGLX01:12
TuxManW8TAH: don't multitask as heavily?01:13
ArtimusMilitantPotato: But you have 3D support?  Like a Radeon 9500ish card?01:13
MilitantPotatoyes01:13
MilitantPotatoglxgears is working fine, 16000fps01:13
ArtimusW8TAH: Saw that before, I disabled ARTS in the KDE control panel.  I unchecked Enable Soundsystem.01:13
tekteenwhiteflame74: r u sure u have the path for the share correct?01:13
W8TAHTuxMan: on a 2ghz P4 Laptop with 1gb memory -- that shouldnt be heavy01:14
whiteflame74yeah..01:14
W8TAHArtimus: doesnt that cause sound to fail?01:14
ArtimusMilitantPotato: You should have that DRI line in there.  It's using the built in DRI drivers, you still need the DRI line, I believe.01:14
W8TAHi need sound in both Pidgin and Konversation01:14
ArtimusW8TAH: Nope, you might have trouble with running 2 or more sound applications on an older computer, though...01:14
MilitantPotatooh01:14
MilitantPotatonetwork path error01:14
tekteenwhiteflame74: can u pastebin the smb.conf file01:14
MilitantPotatoI had that...give me a few to see if I can remember what I did to fix it.01:14
MilitantPotatowhiteflame74: have you tried using gsambad?01:15
W8TAHArtimus: where does sound come from then, ALSA?01:15
ArtimusW8TAH: Correct01:15
MilitantPotatoMakes configuring samba a lot simpler01:15
ArtimusHere's what your box looks like now01:15
ArtimusKopete -> Arts -> Alsa -> Speakers (basically)01:15
ArtimusIf you turn arts off, it goes Kopete -> Alsa -> Speakers01:15
* tekteen edits samba the old fashion way01:15
ArtimusThe problem is, if you've got an older soundcard, only one application can work with alsa at once...01:16
MilitantPotatowhiteflame74: any chance your linux box is blocking the SMB ports?01:16
tekteenMilitantPotato: no01:16
W8TAHArtimus: thanks - -lemme look up what the card is01:16
tekteenMilitantPotato: he can see the shares01:16
ArtimusMilitantPotato: By the way, I've got a really easy answer for your video issue01:16
ArtimusMilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29264201:16
TuxManyes, my comp can only use one program with ALSA at a time01:16
W8TAH00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)01:16
ArtimusMy Onboard AC97 works fine with multiple audio sources.01:17
tekteenwhiteflame74: have u pastebined the /etc/samba/smb.conf file01:17
W8TAHoutstanding01:17
W8TAHArtimus: thanks a bunch01:17
whiteflame74tekteen um... where do you want me to past it without flooding the channel01:17
ArtimusW8TAH: You can try turning off the soundsystem.  If it doesn't work, turn it back on and ask in here again...  Tell them turning off the soundsystem didn't help..01:17
ArtimusMilitantPotato: Hope you aren't using the Composite junk...01:17
tekteen!pastebin | whiteflame7401:17
ubotuwhiteflame74: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:17
W8TAHkewl01:17
W8TAHwill do01:18
MilitantPotatotekteen: i had a share that wasn't set to browsable and I got that error, aswell as firestarting blocking things.01:18
ArtimusW8TAH: You might have to reboot, I'm not sure if ARTS will turn itself off01:18
W8TAHok01:18
tekteenwhiteflame74: look at MilitantPotato's post ^01:18
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ArtimusMilitantPotato: You get the link I sent?01:19
MilitantPotatoCould also be a lack of an active Samba User account01:19
whiteflame74http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49641/01:19
MilitantPotatoGsambad made samba so much easier to deal with.01:20
tekteenwhiteflame74: do they ALL not work?01:20
tekteenIf not which ones don't?01:21
whiteflame74yes none of the folders work01:21
TuxManyou know those flash drives that say Windows-only or Mac-only?01:21
dr_willis_Those U3 ones?01:21
TuxManonce I plugged one into Fedora 8 and it actually didn't work. it melted in the drive...01:21
whiteflame74If linux was blocking the samba port windows shouldn't know what the folders names are right?01:22
tekteenwhiteflame74: add 'browseable = yes' to each01:22
TuxManthe plastic literally melted.01:22
tekteenwhiteflame74: yep01:22
ArtimusGutsy bug: Konversation should not crash while I'm in the middle of a rant01:22
dr_willis_also you may need to give the users samba passwords.01:22
D-MANany one know how to get wireless card working on kubuntu?01:23
ArtimusTuxMan: Generally, the "Windows/Mac only" is for the encryption software.  Every flash drive I've seen has worked fine.  What kind of drive, if I may ask?01:23
whiteflame74I set up samba passwords.01:23
TuxManone of the Sony new ones.01:23
ArtimusHaven't tried one of those, sorry...  Must be a heck of a buggy drive01:23
tekteenD-MAN: Which card?01:24
ArtimusWouldn't recommend buying one again :P01:24
TuxMan... yeah01:24
ArtimusI have no idea what I even have.  I got some 4GB drive for $30 from best buy01:24
D-MANWMP54G01:24
D-MANkynksys01:24
D-MANlynksys01:24
whiteflame74ok, let me try the browseable yes thing, thanks for all the help......   I just let kde set it all up for me... still learning the scripting stuff.01:24
tekteenD-MAN: did you just install it?01:25
D-MANyes01:25
dr_willis_The Useing samba book - is in the repos in the samba-doc pacakge - ITs worth installing and reading01:25
ArtimusWMP54G should be an ndiswrapper card...01:25
TuxManomg.. did my konsole just close?01:25
TuxMannooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOO!01:25
W8TAHArtimus: i rebooted and i now have NO sound01:26
tekteenD-MAN: first try to see if there is a restricted driver01:26
W8TAH:(01:26
MilitantPotatowhiteflame74: this is how my folder shares look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49642/01:26
D-MANno clue how to install ndiswrapper01:26
TuxMani was compiling Qt4 and konsole just crashed.01:26
ArtimusW8TAH: Yeah...  Looks like your card only supports one source.  Bummer...  Let me check the settings to see if there's something that might help.  Do you remember what the error message was?  CPU something01:26
tekteenD-MAN: download ndiswrapper from sourceforge.net01:26
Artimus...01:26
ArtimusThere has to be Ubuntu packages for ndiswrapper01:26
W8TAHArtimus: CPU Overload01:26
D-MANi downloaded it yesterday01:26
TuxManno wait, it didnt!01:26
tekteenArtimus: they never work for me01:27
D-MANbut no clue how to install01:27
tekteenArtimus: I download the latest one01:27
tekteenD-MAN: ok01:27
D-MANvery nice to actually talk to someone though01:27
tekteenD-MAN: open a konsole01:27
D-MANwats konsole?01:28
tekteenD-MAN: type sudo apt-get install build-essential01:28
ArtimusW8TAH: Let me check some bugs...  I'll get back to you in a minute or two hopefully01:28
tekteenok01:28
W8TAHArtimus: np -- thanks for the assist01:28
BluesKajstrange , I did a totally clean gutsy install , installed samba, then ran the network printer wizard..,smb:/ connected in konq without any other configuring01:28
tekteenthis will be fun :-)01:28
D-MANnever used linux before01:28
D-MANya01:28
D-MANcan never figure it out01:29
tekteenD-MAN: click alt+f201:29
BluesKajwell, gents a buddy needs an old monitor power cord ...bbl01:29
tekteenthen type konsole01:29
whiteflame74ok... I'm back. was I supposed to restart samba after changing the conf?01:29
tekteenthen run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"01:29
D-MANim in xp right now couse cant get wirelessd to work01:29
MilitantPotatoyes white01:29
ArtimusW8TAH: What sound card driver are you using again?  "lsmod | grep snd" should list it, amoung other things...01:30
whiteflame74ok... me = idiot still learning sometimes.01:30
W8TAHArtimus: one moment01:30
ArtimusMight be hda_intel01:30
tekteenD-MAN: do u have a way to connect the linux machine to the internet?01:30
W8TAHArtimus: theres a bout a dozen entries - -what would it be classified as?01:31
tekteenD-MAN: without wireless?01:31
D-MANyes if i carry my pc to other room01:31
ArtimusW8TAH: How about this.  "lsmod | grep hda_intel".  Does that list something?01:31
tekteenD-MAN: please do that :-)01:31
D-MANkk01:31
W8TAHartimus nothing lists01:32
ArtimusW8TAH: "lsmod | grep via"  ???01:32
D-MANthen how do i find this place again01:32
tekteenD-MAN: what do u mean?01:32
W8TAHArtimus: nada01:32
D-MANtook 2 days to actually find someone to talk to01:32
tekteenD-MAN: just come back to this chat room01:33
W8TAHD-MAN: lotta good people here01:33
tekteen#kubuntu01:33
D-MANis that the site?01:33
nosrednaekimits the channel01:34
tekteenD-MAN: how did u get here?!01:34
D-MANby luck i guess01:34
W8TAHtekteen: im guessin hes in on the java client01:34
D-MANyes01:34
tekteenD-MAN: what java client?01:34
ArtimusW8TAH: How about lspci?  What does it list for Multimedia audio controllers?01:34
Artimus(Sound, audio, whatever it calls it)01:34
W8TAH00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)01:35
nosrednaekimAC'97? should work fine!01:35
D-MANhow can i tell01:35
tekteenW8TAH: what java client?01:35
D-MANfreenode01:35
W8TAHi came across one some time ago - one moment lemme google01:35
tekteenD-MAN: r u in a web browser?01:35
W8TAHartimus -- i keep seeing a box pop up saying starting sound system01:36
D-MANyes01:36
tekteenD-MAN: what website r u at?01:36
whiteflame74ok, this is getting flustrating, I still can't get samba working....01:36
W8TAHtekteen: http://java.freenode.net/01:36
D-MANirc.netslit.de01:36
nosrednaekimD-MAN: if you are running kubuntu, there is an application under "internet" called konversation that will bring you here.01:37
W8TAHnosrednaekim: what driver do i need for it? the restricted one?01:37
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nosrednaekimW8TAH: you shouldn't need any special driver.01:37
W8TAHhumm - im getting some sound01:37
nosrednaekimW8TAH: no sound works at all?01:37
W8TAHnosrednaekim: i restarted the sound system and im gettin sound01:38
D-MANcool thats good to know01:38
W8TAHbut i still had that crash last night01:38
nosrednaekimW8TAH: great....01:38
W8TAHthat im trying to avoid01:38
tekteenD-MAN: r u at a desktop now?01:38
D-MANbrb01:38
Artimusnosrednaekim: There's a bug...  ARTS freaks out.  I found some bug reports, but they only apply to VIA audio.01:38
W8TAHnosrednaekim: oops - -i meant this afternoon01:38
D-MANmovin to other room01:38
tekteenok01:38
Artimusnosrednaekim: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bug/66982 if you're interested.  Won't help here.01:38
W8TAHartimus - reboot to solve or ????01:38
ArtimusW8TAH: Does sound work at all right now?01:39
W8TAHone moment lemme see01:39
W8TAHArtimus: im getting what appears to be full sound in konversation and partial sound in pidgin01:39
ArtimusW8TAH: "ps aux | grep esd"01:42
ArtimusI'm out of ideas after this...01:42
W8TAHits running01:42
W8TAHwait01:42
W8TAHno its not01:42
W8TAHsorry01:42
Artimusbummer01:42
W8TAHmight not be installed - i dont know --01:42
nosrednaekimso the sound driver is alsa, correct?01:43
W8TAHright now i think arts01:43
W8TAHwhen i turned arts off i got no sound01:43
cuking_1Anybody get samba to perform well?  I am getting about 1/10 the speed of nfs-kernel-server..01:43
tekteencuking_1: preform well?01:44
ArtimusW8TAH: How many soundcards does your box have in it?  Whether or not you use them, do you have more than 1?01:44
tekteenperform*01:44
MilitantPotatovery well here01:44
MilitantPotatomaxes out at my discs speed01:44
W8TAHArtimus: only one01:44
Artimusdarn01:44
cuking_1well  I would like hmm about 4 mb/sec on a 100 network .. I get 10~11 mb/sec with nfs01:44
cuking_1I can't seem to pass over about 1.2 mb/sec01:44
W8TAHArtimus: im on gusty if that matters01:45
ArtimusI'm reading a German Message board at the moment, this is an exercise in futility01:45
W8TAHok01:45
ArtimusSome obscure kernel issue...  I wish I knew what to tell you01:45
W8TAHartimus - lemme ask this -- if it happens again -- how do i restart arts?01:45
W8TAH/etc/init.d/artsd restart????01:46
cuking_1tekteen any ideas?01:46
ArtimusW8TAH: "killall -9 artsd && artsd&"01:46
W8TAHArtimus: cool01:46
W8TAHthanks01:46
tekteencuking_1: I have no idea01:46
ArtimusW8TAH: Wait a second...  Open up kcontrol and go to the Sound settings.01:46
W8TAHok01:46
tekteencuking_1: never seen the problem01:46
ArtimusW8TAH: Then to the little Sound System section.  Click on the Hardware tab.01:47
W8TAHdone01:47
cuking_1hmm what speeds do you normally get with samba?01:47
ArtimusW8TAH: It's set to Autodetect, right?01:47
W8TAHyes01:47
nosrednaekimset that to alsa....01:47
W8TAHok01:47
tekteencuking_1: more then the network hardware supports01:47
W8TAHany other changes?01:47
ArtimusW8TAH: Not yet...01:48
ArtimusW8TAH: Install the alsa-oss package...01:48
W8TAHok01:48
cuking_1tekteen what did you do to /etc/smb.conf?01:48
ArtimusIf it crashes again, go back in there and switch it to Open Sound System...01:48
W8TAHok01:48
ArtimusOtherwise, leave it on alsa01:48
tekteencuking_1: nothing01:48
W8TAHArtimus: just that package?01:48
ArtimusW8TAH: yup01:48
Artimusnosrednaekim: Random thought.  Pidgin isn't trying to go through ARTS...01:49
cuking_1tekteen ... how long would it take to transfer say a 800 mb file?01:49
nosrednaekimArtimus: and....01:49
W8TAHArtimus:  probably01:49
tekteencuking_1: no idea01:49
W8TAHok the install is done -- lemme reboot01:49
tekteencuking_1: not long though01:49
nosrednaekimno need to reboot01:49
Artimusnosrednaekim: Think about it.  His card doesn't support multiple audio sources.  Pidgin is trying to directly access the card while arts is running...01:49
tekteencuking_1: under 10 min01:49
david__tekteen im on its me D-MAN01:49
nosrednaekimArtimus: hmm true,thats why you generally want to run alsa01:50
tekteenhey david__01:50
W8TAHi keep getting the restarting sound system box01:50
david__BOY DOES THIS MONITOR SUCK01:50
cuking_1tekteen ... I am getting 823 mb in 1min 34 sec with nfs01:50
nosrednaekimdavid__: hey01:50
Artimusnosrednaekim: ALSA won't help you run more than one program at once if the card can't support it01:50
cuking_1tekteen ... I was just wondering if I did something wrong when I got about 10 min with samba01:51
nosrednaekimArtimus: most can though.01:51
david__theres anewb kid in town01:51
tekteencuking_1: I do not know. I do not have that prob.01:51
tekteendavid__: have u downloaded ndiswrapper01:51
tekteen?01:51
Artimusnosrednaekim: I've seen many that can't, and I'm guessing if he has no sound after reboot, that means that his card can't01:51
david__yes01:51
tekteencuking_1: no idea. it does not sound right though.01:51
tekteencuking_1: can01:51
Artimusnosrednaekim: I had him turn off ARTS, he had no sound at all.  That means something is grabbing the soundcard, so the others wouldn't play sounds01:51
cuking_1tekteen I don't need ndiswrapper but thanks.01:51
tekteenI help david01:51
W8TAHbe right back guys01:51
tekteencuking_1: can I help david?01:52
cuking_1tekteen sure.01:52
tekteendavid__: open a konsole01:52
tekteendavid__: K menu > system > konsole01:52
david__weres thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa01:52
somekoolwho is making KDE4 package for Kubuntu? I wish I could installed .deb file that contains compiled source with .o and everything I need to start development on KDE from freshly installed Kubuntu system01:52
tekteenk menu=start menu01:53
nosrednaekimsomekool: stdin01:53
Artimussomekool: There's some for Gutsy...  You'll need some other development packages to compile stuff, of course01:53
tekteendavid__: then type in the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential" (press enter after each command)01:54
david__black screen01:54
david__llike dos01:54
tekteendavid__: sounds right :-)01:54
Artimusnosrednaekim: If I'm not around withW8TAH comes back, have him go into the Pidgin settings and set the Sound Method to ARTS.01:54
nosrednaekimok01:54
W8TAHArtimus: im back01:55
W8TAHand i'll check it01:55
ArtimusW8TAH: Did you just see the message I sent about Pidgin, then?01:55
tekteendavid__: it is a lot like dos01:55
somekoolgusty is 7.10 right?01:55
W8TAHyes01:55
david__kk01:55
BluesKajsomekool, yes01:55
tekteendavid__: type the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential"01:55
W8TAHArtimus: ARTS is not an option in pidgin01:56
ArtimusO_o01:56
W8TAHits currently set to automatic01:56
tekteendavid__: u there?01:56
ArtimusW8TAH: What other choices were there?  It's a dropdown box...01:56
W8TAHconsole beep, ALSA, Automatic, ESD,command and no sounds01:57
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somekoolBluesKaj: yes what?01:57
somekoolBluesKaj: oh yes thanks01:57
BluesKajgutsy is 7.1001:58
tekteendavid__ ?01:58
Artimushmm...  You might have to turn sounds off in Pidgin.  Is there a reason you use both Pidgin and Kopete?01:58
W8TAHi dont01:58
david__tekteen command not found01:58
W8TAHi use pidgin and konversation01:58
ArtimusW8TAH: Could you use Kopete instead of Pidgin?01:58
david__do i use parenthisis01:58
W8TAHno- - its very very tempermental01:58
tekteendo not include the ""01:58
ArtimusW8TAH: What do you mean?01:58
W8TAHcrashes routinely01:59
tekteendavid__: no01:59
ArtimusW8TAH: On MSN?  They fixed that01:59
david__kk01:59
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W8TAHon any and all01:59
* BluesKaj doesn't understand using pidgin for irc ...but i'm an old skool type 01:59
nosrednaekimyeah.. kopete is kinda buggy sometimes01:59
* W8TAH doesnt either01:59
ArtimusI haven't had Kopete ever crash.  Konversation, however, crashes all the time.01:59
W8TAHpidgin is for Yahoo, google,msn etc01:59
tekteendavid__: then type "y" then enter01:59
W8TAHkonversation is everything else01:59
W8TAHoops02:00
W8TAHkonversation is irc02:00
BluesKajkonversation , is fine here02:00
W8TAHya - -works great -- just wish they would make a better notify system02:00
smk_running_kde4konversation never crashes here... but anyway02:00
nosrednaekimyeah wish they had konversation for kde402:00
BluesKajthose IMs are more difficult to get right in many ways than an irc client02:00
david__tekteen password02:01
tekteendavid__: yes02:01
nosrednaekimdavid__: your user passowrd.02:01
tekteentype in your pass02:01
tekteendavid__: then type y then enter02:02
david__now were cookin02:02
david__tekteen think it stopped02:03
tekteendavid__: where did u save the ndiswrapper -VERSION INFO.tar.gz file?02:03
david__desktop02:03
tekteenok02:03
tekteenI am a slow typer :-)02:04
W8TAHya02:04
tekteendavid__: type "tar -xvzf Desktop/ndiswrapper*"02:04
tekteendavid__: then "cd ndiswrapper*"02:05
tekteennow tell me what it says when u type "pwd"02:05
tekteendavid__: note: press enter after each command02:06
tekteendavid__: what happened when u typed "pwd"?02:07
david__tekteen no luck on first command02:07
tekteenok02:07
tekteenwhat is the file called?02:07
NeonixGuys I am getting this error02:08
david__no luck on first command line02:08
tekteendavid__: what is the file called?02:08
NeonixCouldn't open audio : Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard02:08
nosrednaekimNeonix: system settings->sound system->hardware-> change the device driver to alsa and hit apply02:09
david__tekteen how do i tell02:09
nosrednaekimdavid__: do "cd Desktop" and then type "ls"02:09
david__there r actually three files on my desktop02:09
nosrednaekimwithout the quotes of course02:09
mrtimbohola02:11
* tekteen wishes he could ssh to him02:11
tekteen:-D02:11
tekteendavid__: do u know what the pastebin is?02:12
david__tekteen i downloade the file to desktop then i extracted it02:12
tekteendavid__: ok02:12
tekteendavid__: type "cd Desktop/ndiswapper*"02:12
nosrednaekimtekteen: you can't do stars with cd... tab is better02:13
tekteenok02:13
nosrednaekimdavid__: do "cd Desktop/ndi<pres tab here>"02:13
NeonixUnder Hardware there is no option device driver but under Midi Device it does says Midi Through Midi Through Port-0 ALSA device, how to find Device Driver section?02:13
tekteennosrednaekim: ty02:14
tekteennosrednaekim: I know ndiswrapper but not how to teach bash02:14
nosrednaekimNeonix: sorry, the field is "select audio device"02:14
nosrednaekimtekteen:  :)02:14
david__no go02:15
XcellMy brothere kubuntu starts in text prompting for pw and such, how can he get back to gui?02:15
Xcellbrother02:15
tekteendavid__: why02:15
nosrednaekimdavid__: paste the results of "ls Desktop"02:15
nosrednaekimdavid__: and of "pwd"02:16
david__tekteen i dont know y none of the commands r working02:16
tekteennosrednaekim: thanks again02:16
nosrednaekimtekteen: btw, I didn't know of that command "pwd" before you just did it, pretty sweet :D02:16
NeonixALSA = Advance Linux Sound Architecture. Don't have to reply if this is correct.02:16
W8TAHguys the error im getting in the debug window of pidgen when i try to play sounds is:02:16
nosrednaekimNeonix: thats right.02:16
tekteennosrednaekim: lol02:16
W8TAH(21:16:21) gstreamer: Resource busy or not available.02:17
NeonixSbkh,02:17
nosrednaekimgstreamer? hmmm why don't you get pidgin to do comsole beeps?02:17
NeonixShould I reboot, sorry about the above line?02:17
nosrednaekimXcell: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"02:17
tekteendavid__: what does the konsole say when u type "cd ~;ls Desktop"02:17
Xcellnice thanks.02:17
nosrednaekimafter logging in of course02:18
W8TAHnosrednaekim: lemme try it02:18
NeonixIt worked, thanks.02:18
W8TAHnosrednaekim: nothing happens02:19
tekteendavid__: I am sorry but I am currently blind since I am not at your computer02:19
tekteendavid__: have u tried that command?02:19
david__tekteen does desktop have to have caps at beginning02:20
tekteendavid__: yes02:21
nosrednaekimW8TAH: hmm02:22
nosrednaekimW8TAH: does normal music work?02:22
W8TAHummm - not sure really02:22
W8TAHi dont play music from this box02:22
W8TAHive got a cd -- lemme try02:22
david__tekteen is that is or ls02:23
Schuenemannwhy don't you copy and paste?02:24
tekteenlower case L02:24
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tekteendavid__: lower case L02:25
david__tekteen no such file or directory02:25
W8TAHnosrednaekim: NO - audio output unavailabe: the device is busy -- Xine Parameters:02:26
nosrednaekimwhat the heck? do a "pwd" david__02:26
nosrednaekimW8TAH: thats weird... I wonder what is using the sound .... oh! go to systemsettings->sound system and set the kde timeout to 002:27
W8TAHokies02:27
david__wat is pwd02:27
tekteendavid__: pwd is a command02:27
nosrednaekimits a command... run it02:27
ardchoilledavid__: it means "Print Working Directory"02:27
david__k i did that02:28
tekteendavid__: what did it say?02:28
W8TAHnosrednaekim: kde timeout = Auto suspend?02:28
nosrednaekimW8TAH: yeah XD02:28
nosrednaekimsorry, I don't have a system settings window here ;)02:28
W8TAHnp02:28
W8TAHits resetting the sound sytem now02:29
tekteendavid__: after u typed pwd, what came back?02:29
david__tekteen it says /home/david02:30
tekteendavid__: ok02:30
tekteendavid__: type "ls Desktop"02:30
tekteendavid__: what comes back?02:31
david__k i see ndiswrapper02:31
tekteenok02:31
tekteendavid__: is it colored blue?02:31
W8TAHnosrednaekim: that got it i think!!!!02:31
david__yes02:32
nosrednaekimW8TAH: w00t02:32
W8TAHya - NO DOUBT02:32
W8TAHthanks to all02:32
nosrednaekimW8TAH: yeah.. thats a nasty little "feature"02:32
tekteendavid__: type "cd Desktop/FOLDER-U-Found"02:32
W8TAHya -- i can see that02:32
tekteendavid__: replace FOLDER-U-Found with the folder02:33
david__tekteen didnt work02:35
tekteendavid__: what was the error02:36
tekteen?02:36
david__no such file or directory02:36
tekteendavid__: type "cd Desktop"02:36
david__k02:37
david__did nothing02:37
tekteendavid__: ok02:37
tekteendavid__: type: ls02:37
tekteendavid__: what does it say?02:37
david__tekteen now i see it in blue02:38
tekteenok02:38
tekteendavid__: type "ls FOLDER-U-FOUND-IN-BLUE"02:38
tekteendavid__: anything in caps needs to be replaced by u02:39
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nosrednaekimtekteen: just to let you know (not that is really important or anything) its general practice to enclose anything that needs to be replaced by a user in <> signs..02:40
tekteennosrednaekim: ok02:40
tekteendavid__: Anything in <> needs to be replaced by u02:40
tekteennosrednaekim: thanks :-)02:41
david__TEKTEEN WAT DO U MEAN02:41
david__sry caps02:42
arrrghhhcan someone tell me what's wrong with this code? "sudo wget http://apt.mediatomb.cc/key.asc -O- -q | sudo apt-key add -"02:42
arrrghhhoops sorry i should've pastebinned....02:42
nosrednaekimtekteen: no...I mean in your original command02:42
nosrednaekimarrrghhh: no, tats ok02:42
arrrghhhwell it asks for my password 2x in the same line...02:43
arrrghhhi put it in a pastebin anyways, http://pastebin.com/d1f3f38e602:43
tekteendavid__: type "ls <folder>" note: anything in <needs to be replaced>02:43
tekteennote: anything in <> needs to be replaced02:43
nosrednaekimand without the signs..02:43
NeonixSound worked but after two songs, again the same error of sound card. I did the same solution but no result?02:44
arrrghhhdavid__: or quotes lol02:44
arrrghhhnosrednaekim: so there's nothing wrong with that code?  it gives me a pw prompt 2x in the same line, and after i input my pw once successfully it just sits there but doesn't let me enter my pw again...02:45
tekteendavid__: do u know how to use dos?02:45
arrrghhhscrew it, i'll just run it as root.  duh.02:45
david__TEK TEEN IM LOST02:45
tekteendavid__: I know02:45
nosrednaekimhaha02:45
arrrghhhdavid__: turn off the caps...02:45
tekteendavid__: do u know dos?02:45
david__kinda02:45
tekteendavid__: u know the command dir?02:46
david__yes02:46
tekteendavid__: in linux it is ls02:46
david__ah02:46
tekteenand cd is cd02:46
tekteendavid__: that is all I know of dos :-D02:47
david__hlaf the problem i dont know all theese weird names for stuf02:47
david__y would i type cd?02:47
tekteendavid__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir02:47
nosrednaekimdavid__: and in addition, the tab key will coplete things for you.02:47
tekteendavid__: we are trying to teach both the command line and ndiswrapper02:48
tekteen:-D02:48
david__kk02:48
tekteendavid__: what does pwd say?02:49
david__just want my wireless to work02:49
tekteennow02:49
kyeAnyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?02:50
nosrednaekim!tovid02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:50
tekteenkye: devede02:50
david__tekteen pwd says/home/david/desktop02:50
nosrednaekim!info tovid02:50
ubotuPackage tovid does not exist in gutsy02:50
kyeDevede is really slow for me.02:50
nosrednaekimdavid__: desktop is, no dount, capitalized?02:51
david__yes02:51
tekteendavid__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir02:51
BluesKajkye, what do you mean slow ...transcoding ?02:51
kyeYes02:51
david__tekteen how do i do that?02:51
kyeTranscoding.02:52
tekteendavid__: u know dos?02:52
tekteendavid__: cd <folder>02:52
BluesKajwell, it takes a good 60-90 mins to transcode and author a full length movie from avi oe whatever codec to dvd mpeg02:52
david__no clue confusing me02:53
tekteendavid__: what is the ndiswrapper folder called?02:53
david__ndiswrapper-1.5102:54
tekteenok02:54
tekteentype "cd ndiswrapper-1.51"02:54
tekteendavid__: next type "sudo make uninstall"02:55
tekteendavid__: then type "make"02:56
bazhanghttp://www.ss64.com/bash/ david__02:56
tekteenbazhang: we do not need more confusion! :-)02:56
bazhangtekteen: sorry! :}02:56
tekteenbazhang: np02:56
david__wont let me type password02:57
tekteendavid__: the pass is not shown02:57
tekteendavid__: it is still there though02:57
david__ah02:57
tekteendavid__: it is for security02:57
david__kk02:58
david__cool02:58
tekteendavid__: have u done "sudo make uninstall" then "make" then "sudo make install"02:58
david__no02:59
david__just uninstall02:59
tekteendavid__: each is a separate command02:59
tekteendavid__: do them all02:59
david__kk02:59
tekteendavid__: u have now (once u r done) compiled your first program! :-D03:00
* CheGuevara claps03:00
david__tekteen u knew how to do this long time ago didnt u?03:01
tekteendavid__: what do u mean. There is not much "long time." I am only 1403:02
david__its kool ive learned a bit about commands in linux03:02
tekteendavid__: I have used linux since I was 803:02
mrtimboi was 14 in 92 lol03:02
david__ive used kubuntu for 2 days03:03
smk_running_kde4hey, I am using uim-anthy for typing japanese but it does not work in KDE applications. ??? Skype either... only GTK apps works with japanese... why ???03:03
david__lol03:03
david__did sudo install03:03
nosrednaekimsmk_running_kde4: you probably need another tool for kde apps03:03
tekteendavid__: once u are done go online and find the windows xp driver for the wireless03:04
david__i have disk that came with it03:04
tekteendavid__: put in the disk03:05
david__kk 1second03:05
tekteendavid__: then type "cd /cdrom"03:05
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nosrednaekim /media/cdrom?03:07
dandielionousstupid computer03:07
dandielionoushehehe03:07
tekteennosrednaekim: both work03:07
dandielionousor maybe ot03:07
dandielionouss ,e03:07
dandielionousor maybe it's me03:07
david__tekteen wat was it supposed to do03:08
nosrednaekimdandielionous: PEBAK?03:08
dandielionousPEBAK????03:08
tekteendavid__: get u ready for the following commands03:08
tekteendavid__: do u know what the pastebin is03:09
nosrednaekimdandielionous: problem between brain and keyboard ;)03:09
dandielionousare you talking to me?03:09
dandielionoussorry03:09
david__lol nope03:09
dandielionousfriend was asking me what this room was03:09
tekteen!pastebin | david__03:09
ubotudavid__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:09
dandielionousShowing a friend what kubuntu can do.03:09
nosrednaekimdandielionous: yeah :D03:10
tekteendavid__: nm03:10
nosrednaekimdandielionous: this is the support channel in case your freind didn't know ;)03:10
tekteendavid__: type "ls"03:10
david__no clue wat that means03:10
tekteendavid__: nm=never mind03:10
dandielionousThank-you right.03:10
dandielionousHe just said he could deal with chat rooms like this. :)03:10
tekteendavid__: is the a file that is a ".inf"03:11
BluesKajthere are chat rooms on windows as well :)03:11
nosrednaekimhehe03:11
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: not like this one ;)03:11
ErtainHello everyone.  I'm trying to make my computer a router so that I can use my Xbox 360.  So far nothing has worked.  I've tried using Firestarter, installing libUPnP, and setting up the internal connection for it, but it still won't work.  Any ideas?03:11
ErtainI can give the logs of the information coming from the 360.03:11
dandielionousI wonder why my dell that I was fixing for a friend would load kubuntu but would not load knoppix.03:12
BluesKajI've been in here on windows - xchat03:12
dsmith_kubuntu has better hardware support?03:12
dandielionousKubuntu has better library of drivers :)03:12
dsmith_same thing :)03:13
nosrednaekim!internetsharing03:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about internetsharing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:13
nosrednaekim!network03:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:13
tekteenErtain: just to give u some quick help, u want to NAT and masquerade03:13
dandielionousyep yep got that right dsmith03:13
tekteen!nat03:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:13
BluesKaj:- )03:13
dsmith_I so hate gnats..03:13
dsmith_oh...your talking about NAT's03:13
dandielionousI could get damn small linux, puppy, kubuntu to load on this dell but not knoppix. Only the knoppix rescue disk.03:14
dsmith_i had that happen with knoppix before03:14
dsmith_oh well :(03:14
dandielionousI kind of like knoppix.03:14
dsmith_you like flux?03:14
dandielionousDon't think I've tried flux.03:15
dsmith_or e17 windowmanager?03:15
dsmith_btw03:15
tekteendavid__: u here?03:15
dandielionousBut I've tried mandriva and mandrrake03:15
dsmith_!ot03:15
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:15
dandielionousty ubotu you are so correct :)03:15
dsmith_I have to remind myself03:15
tekteendavid__: u here?03:16
freddyepa03:16
freddyeded03:17
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_CitizenKane_hello all, i was wondering if it was possible to connect to an openVPN server with knetworkmanager, i do have network-manager openvpn module installed03:18
tekteenCitizenKane: there is a module?03:18
_CitizenKane_tekteen, maybe i shouldn't say module, a plugin maybe, let me double check03:20
D-MANtekteen u ther03:20
tekteenD-MAN: yep03:20
D-MANam i close to getting this working03:20
tekteenD-MAN: yes03:20
tekteenD-MAN: we now need to install the windows xp driver03:21
D-MANi have my cd rom03:21
_CitizenKane_tekteen, alright, it's the open vpn plugin for network manager and it does exist03:21
tekteenD-MAN: is it in the comp.?03:21
D-MANyes03:21
tekteenD-MAN: type "cd /cdrom"03:22
D-MANno such file or directory03:22
tekteenD-MAN: type "cd /media/cdrom"03:23
D-MANsame message03:23
GideanHello everyone...03:23
D-MANhello03:24
nosrednaekimD-MAN: cd /media/cdrom003:24
tekteennosrednaekim: thanks03:24
nosrednaekimhey... we don't know if it works yet ;)03:24
D-MANno luck03:25
arrrghhhso what's the best method to get a program to run at startup?  like mediatomb, knotes...03:25
nosrednaekim!autostart03:25
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.03:25
arrrghhhhrm... is there a handy way to tell me what a kcontrol item is?03:26
nosrednaekimarrrghhh: its a module for kcontrol, which you can run by typing "kcontrol" lol03:26
arrrghhhuh03:26
_CitizenKane_arrrghhh, kcontrol is the KDE configuration program03:26
arrrghhhoh... der.  thanks lol03:26
J23ardchoille: are u there?03:26
tekteenD-MAN: is there a pic. of a cd on the desktop03:26
_CitizenKane_arrrghhh, you can hit alt-f2 and then type "kcontrol"03:26
GideanI just installed an AGP Video card in my desktop, switched up the bios to uses it and rebooted.  Unfortunatly now the screen goes black (and eventually to sleep) after running the "local boot scripts".  I hear the Ubuntu login sound but no visual.  Any ideas?03:27
arrrghhhyea i did, i feel stupid now.03:27
_CitizenKane_meh, it's fine, there are always too many names in the open source world03:27
D-MANdont see one03:27
tekteenD-MAN: take out and put back the cd03:28
D-MANkk i did03:28
D-MANasks wat i want to do03:29
_CitizenKane_Gidean, i'm guessing X on your system is dying because of the new video card03:29
tekteenD-MAN: open in file manager03:29
ardchoilleJ23: I'm here03:29
J23ardchoille: u r always here.. haha03:29
J23ardchoille: I'm dany man =)03:30
D-MANhow do i do that03:30
GideancitizenKane, I booted in recovery mode and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it recognized the new card....03:30
ardchoilleJ23: :)03:30
GideanI'm stumped...03:30
oemwoah03:30
tekteenD-MAN: now in the konsole type "cd /media/cdrom0"03:30
_CitizenKane_Gidean, what kind of video card is it?03:30
D-MANhow do i open in file mamnager03:31
Gideanthis may be a dumb question but:  I plugged the monitor into the card's port not the old one.  this is correct, right?03:31
_CitizenKane_Gidean, ya that's right03:31
tekteenD-MAN: nm that03:31
_CitizenKane_Gidean, maybe you don't have the xserver driver package for your card installed?03:31
Gideannvidia nv34 geforce fx 520003:32
D-MANso cancel opening it03:32
arrrghhhwould i have to restart my machine for that kcontrol-autostart package to take it's effect on kcontrol?  i restarted it... nothing (and i was confused because it's normally called "KInfoCenter"...)03:32
tekteenD-MAN: yes03:32
_CitizenKane_arrrghhh, let me check03:32
tekteenD-MAN: then type (in the konsole) "cd /media/cdrom0"03:33
D-MANno such file or directory03:33
BluesKajKInfoCenter and kcontrol are 2 different things03:33
_CitizenKane_arrrghhh, in kcontrol it was there immediately after i installed it03:33
arrrghhhBluesKaj: they are?03:33
tekteenD-MAN: click the cd pic on the desktop03:34
arrrghhhoh der they are.  what is it called then?03:34
D-MANdont see one03:34
tekteen D-MAN: ok03:34
_CitizenKane_arrrghhh, the module is called autostart manager, it's under KDE Components in kcontrol03:35
tekteenD-MAN: get the driver online03:35
D-MANkk03:35
D-MANdownload to desktop03:35
tekteenyes03:35
somekoolafter each apt-get install I get this error, could any else HELP please ? http://www.pastebin.ca/83332403:35
Gideanbrb03:36
D-MANdo i get drivers from lynksys03:36
tekteen D-MAN: there website03:37
_CitizenKane_somekool, well that error doesn't help much, you can check the system log which is at /var/log/syslog03:37
tekteenwhat is the model of the wireless03:38
J23ardchoille: did u get my msg?03:38
se7ensomekool: try sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a03:38
tekteenD-MAN: what is the model of the wireless03:38
BluesKajtekteen, arrrghhh , another way to add or delete apps from auto start is copy and paste them here : kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart03:38
tekteenBluesKaj: y r u talking to me?03:39
_CitizenKane_tekteen, i'm guessing his mis-tabbed ;)03:40
tekteenyep03:40
BluesKajoops03:40
tekteenI did not know tab did that03:40
D-MANWMP54G LINKSYS03:40
tekteenok03:41
_CitizenKane_tekteen, that is could mis-tab or that it auto-completed names?03:41
D-MANSAYS I NEED SOME FLASHPLAYER03:41
BluesKajanyway getting tired i reckon...better hit the sack03:41
D-MANsry caps03:41
tekteen D-MAN: what does?03:41
D-MANthere website03:41
tekteenok03:41
tekteenI found the driver03:42
D-MANhow03:42
tekteenD-MAN: what is the revision?03:42
somekoolse7en: http://www.pastebin.ca/833328 <-- getting an error anyway03:43
tekteenD-MAN: 1? 2? 4? 4.1?03:43
D-MANwat number is that?03:43
D-MAN4.103:43
tekteenD-MAN: ok03:43
somekoolcat /var/log/syslog ... does not show a thing about apt or kdm03:43
_CitizenKane_somekool, anything about dpkg?03:44
cuking_1D-MAN I simply use the flashplugin-nonfree package03:44
tekteencuking_1: it does not work03:44
somekool_CitizenKane_: no03:44
D-MANwre do u obtain this03:44
cuking_1tekteen it works for me.03:44
tekteencuking_1: it broke03:44
somekoolthere is a dpkg.log though03:44
cuking_1okay03:44
_CitizenKane_somekool, well, i suppose that would help :P03:45
tekteenD-MAN: go to http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859843981&packedargs=sku%3D1150490054358&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4398154358B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail03:45
somekool2007-12-26 22:40:11 startup packages configure03:46
somekool2007-12-26 22:40:11 configure kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa103:46
somekool2007-12-26 22:40:11 status half-configured kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa103:46
somekoolthree lines only03:46
_CitizenKane_somekool, there a log file for apt?03:47
D-MANwich driver do i need?03:47
se7ensomekool: what doese df -h say03:47
tekteenD-MAN: at that site u want the link that says "Driver"03:48
somekooldf -h ? it says I need a new harddrive03:48
D-MANbelow the vists driver?03:48
tekteenyes03:49
arrrghhhok time to test by restartin...03:49
se7ensomekool: :) the error could show up when your boot drive is at 100%03:49
tekteenD-MAN: did u download it?03:49
somekoolstill got at least a 1GB on every partitions03:50
se7enif that is not the case try apt-get -f install03:50
D-MANyes03:50
tekteenD-MAN: type "cd .."03:50
tekteenthat is 2 dots at the end03:50
D-MANk03:50
somekoolse7en: thing is ... kdm is installed and it works fine ... I use it everytime I turn on my computer ;) it just apt-get that complains about it ...03:51
D-MANthen03:51
somekooland also the fact it feels like its trying to launch a second X on a separate tty03:51
tekteennow type "sudo apt-get install cabextract"03:51
somekoolhttp://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg03:52
tekteenD-MAN: then type "cabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117"03:52
tekteen D-MAN: no03:53
se7ensomekool: try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error03:53
tekteenD-MAN; I messed up03:53
tekteenD-MAN; type "mkdir driver"03:53
tekteenthen cd driver03:53
tekteen"cd driver"03:53
D-MANwen i typed sudo cabextract says another process is using it03:55
somekoolse7en: i just did it , and it did the same thing...03:55
somekooli dont really want to remove it and reinstall it ...03:55
tekteenD-MAN: not sure why03:55
D-MANunable to lock admiin directory03:56
tekteenD-MAN: what is your im?03:56
D-MANupdater is running03:57
tekteenD-MAN: ok03:57
D-MANis that y03:57
tekteenD-MAN: yes03:57
tekteenu can not run two installing programs at the same time03:57
somekooltoo late !! going to bed !!! thanks all, have a good night03:58
tekteenD-MAN: have u installed cabextract?03:59
D-MANno03:59
tekteencan u stop the updater?03:59
D-MANits done04:00
tekteenok04:00
crxyemis there any program that will install or convert a mac osx .pkg installer package to something usable by linux ?04:00
tekteenD-MAN: then "mkdir driver"04:01
tekteen"mv WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe driver/"04:01
tekteencd driver04:02
tekteencabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe04:02
tekteentell me when u have done those commands04:03
D-MANtry mv help for more info04:03
crxyemlooks like someone is trying to get WPA working04:04
crxyemwell, drivers for your wireless at least04:04
sfearshello04:04
tekteenD-MAN: Can u give me your email address. My mom says I need to go to sleep. :-P04:05
D-MANmv missing destination file operand04:05
etfbcrxyem: I'm given to understand that trying to mix different package systems (deb, yum, rpm, etc) is a dangerous pastime.  Not sure if you're n00b or Linus in disguise, but be careful.04:05
D-MANsunroofdave@yahoo.com04:05
tekteenD-MAN: thanks04:06
D-MANthnx for your help04:06
sfearsis there a gui to configure multiple monitors.. specifically thru an nvidia card with an svideo cable to my tv?04:06
etfbD-MAN: Probably should have said /msg tekteen [your message] there...04:06
tekteenetfb: D-MAN is not registered04:06
tekteenetfb: would not work04:07
tekteenD-MAN: bye04:07
etfbtekteen: Ah!  Well, you just need /msg nickserv identify [some password], but I guess it's not like there are spambots harvesting #kubuntu for addresses they can't get a million other places.04:07
Evolution2 I keep getting this "cannot mount external drive error. and appearently I have to force it because it seems to be in generic mode. I don't have windows to do a safely remove. help please04:08
etfbEvolution2: Do you see any informative errors if you try dmesg in a konsole?04:08
etfbEvolution2: ... or cat .xsession-errors04:08
Evolution2yes sir04:08
Evolution2hold on04:08
Evolution2its this04:08
eagles051387flaccid: i made a back up of xorg once i reinstalled for safte purposes04:09
etfb!pastebin | Evolution204:09
ubotuEvolution2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:09
eagles051387world of warcraft is working like a charm04:09
arrrghhhsweet, that autostart control worked... thanks!04:09
crxyemetfb: then there exists a way to do it , I've used alian to convert yum and rpm packages to .deb, but this is a mac osx package insaller04:10
etfbcrxyem: Then you're more experienced than me.  I was going to try using alien for something but the warnings scared me off.  Not sure what distro Darwin is based on -- hang on, it's BSD, isn't it?04:10
arrrghhhalthough, is there a general one for linux?  or at least ubuntu... like /usr/share/autostart would be better huh.04:11
Thinguseagles051387: Wine?04:11
arrrghhhcan you just make symbolic links to that directory?04:12
michal_hi people, is normal that my kubuntu is taking above 500MB of memory after start?04:13
arrrghhhmichal_: it swaps a lot...04:13
michal_it's not..04:13
arrrghhhlike caches to ram.04:13
michal_Mem:   1035124k total,   474300k used,   560824k free,     7144k buffers04:13
michal_Swap:  2000084k total,    34784k used,  1965300k free,   228056k cached04:13
arrrghhhit uses ram instead of swap04:14
eagles051387Thingus: what bout wine04:14
Dragnslcrmichal_- depending on what you have running, 500 MB is fairly reasonable04:14
Evolution2etfb: http://pastebin.com/m6b1760fe04:14
arrrghhhi prefers ram to swap because it's quicker... it uses swap when it absolutely necessary (unless you configure it.)04:14
se7enMemTotal:      2074792 kB04:15
se7enMemFree:        113588 kB04:15
etfbEvolution2: You or the OS will need to create the directory /media/[name of disk] before you can mount the drive manually04:15
etfbEvolution2: Back when I was having trouble with my USB drive, I did that and it was fine.  Didn't need -o force either.04:16
DragnslcrI have 1.5 GB used right now, but about half of that is cached04:16
Thinguseagles051387: Using WINE to run WoW?04:16
Evolution2etfb: ok. but I have plugged in04:16
etfbEvolution2: But it might be worth copying stuff off and reformatting the drive, because Ubuntu got a lot fussier about broken formatting as of 7.0404:16
Dr_willis_I think someone needs to make a WowUbuntu Just to set up Wine and Wow Automaticially.... :)04:16
bazhangwowbuntu04:17
crxyemetfb yes, osx/darwin is a bsd based distro04:17
michal_who's trying run wiw?04:17
Evolution2etfb: so I just unplug this and create it?04:17
michal_*wow04:17
bazhangeveryone?04:18
etfbEvolution2: Yes.04:18
Evolution2etfb: ok04:18
arrrghhhhave fun supporting wowbuntu with all those different h/w configurations...04:18
nevilleerm, is it just me, or does gparted keep closing on its own?04:18
etfbEvolution2: Remember to make it generally readable, at least at first while you're fiddling with it:04:18
etfbEvolution2: mkdir /media/nameofdisk04:18
etfbEvolution2: sudo chmod 777 /media/nameofdisk04:18
Evolution2etfb: I was going to do mkdir /media/nameofdisk04:19
etfbneville: Confucius say: when your partition editor starts crashing, consider updating your backups quick smart.04:19
distroh0pperlol04:20
nevillei have nothing to backup04:20
nevilleit's just incredibly annoying04:20
etfbneville: Alternatively, try qtparted, the KDE-specific port.04:20
nevilleahh, okay04:20
nevillethanks04:20
etfbneville: Or cfdisk if you prefer the konsole.04:21
eagles051387Thingus: yes i do04:21
eagles051387Thingus: u play wow04:21
eagles051387lol Dr_willis_ ill gett stareted on ur suggestion immediatley:p04:21
Thinguseagles051387: I thought about buying it today.04:25
ThingusBut, decided not to. :/04:25
eagles051387Thingus: what held ya back04:25
eagles051387u need to start asap cuz they coming out with new expansion04:26
eagles051387in april or may04:26
michal_probably stupid question .), but does anyone here know what is difference in karamba script in memory showing using %fmb or just %fm with %fmb it show used something about 200 and with %fm 500. second one is right by top04:26
crxyemmichal, maybe bit vs byte04:27
Thinguseagles051387: I'm not much into MMOs. I tried Guild Wars a bit back...04:28
Evolution2etfb: thanks a lot, that was weird I never had to deal with that before04:28
eagles051387Thingus: i have it too04:28
eagles051387Thingus: is quake 4 linux naitve as well04:28
rootc04:28
ThingusThere are periods where I might grind for a week, and then stop playing for an entire month or longer.04:28
eagles051387i know unreal 2k4 is04:28
Thinguseagles051387: Yeah.04:28
etfbEvolution2: What distro?  I started getting odd behaviour with Feisty that never happened with Edgy.04:28
eagles051387kool i need to get em installed04:28
etfbEvolution2: It stopped when I reformatted the offending drive.04:28
Thinguseagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.org -- That's the link for the Quake 4 installer.04:29
eagles051387kool ty04:29
michal_crxyem would the difference be 8x ?04:29
bazhangopen arena on the eeepc haha04:29
Thinguseagles051387: Oh... Sorry...04:29
Thinguseagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com *04:29
ThingusThat's the right one.04:29
eagles051387sweet i have doom 3 and expansion04:29
Evolution2etfb: I am on ubuntu studio right now running gnome. I also have ubuntu and kubuntu on the same harddrive along with Gentoo04:29
etfb!ot04:29
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:29
eagles051387night guys04:30
etfbEvolution2: Which version, I meant to ask.04:30
Evolution2etfb: gutsy04:30
Evolution2and some hardy04:30
nevilleokay, thanks for all your help04:31
etfbEvolution2: Oh well, you probably ran into the same problem.  Your hard disk is probably a tiny bit flaky.04:31
nevilleback after formatting04:31
Evolution2oh04:31
etfbEvolution2: Not enough to cause problems, but enough to confuse Ubuntu.04:32
Evolution2indeed04:32
Mr_Sonomai've added a second hard disk (a 20 gig with windows xp home) and have jumpered to be a slave, but when the system powers up it boots directly into windows, no grub bootloader at all, shouldnt i be able to see grub since grub is loaded on the linux disk, witch is jumpered to be the master drive?04:33
Mr_Sonomaor did i miss something?04:34
etfbMr_Sonoma: Is your BIOS overriding the jumpers?  Can happen with some recent ones.04:34
Mr_Sonomahmmmm havent thought that direction04:34
Mr_Sonomacould be04:35
etfbMr_Sonoma: BIOS makers keep fiddling with things to make it "easier".  Trust noone!04:35
Mr_SonomaMSI ms6340 main board not real recent04:35
crxyemmichal, the differnce between bit and byte is 8x, but it's the only thing that seems logical, as 500 is not 8x larger then 20004:36
sigma_123we need a linux bios 2go mainstream!04:36
SJrXHmmmm who do I ask KDE 4 RC2 Gutsy Questions too?04:36
sigma_123might as wel ask them here04:36
SJrXwell actually problem one is that for some reason my screen resolution starts at some wierd value that is incorrect04:37
SJrXProblem to is that I installed the packages but none of the KDE 4 applications appear to be there04:37
SJrXi.e. System Settings, KRandrTray KDE404:38
sigma_123why not try the livecd? installing it manually can b harder04:39
sigma_123not to mention riskier04:39
SJrXhmmmm04:40
SJrXalready installed it04:40
SJrXand this is a VMWare Machine, so I'm not too concerned04:40
SJrXas well I'm a hardened veteran.04:40
mrtimbohow do i move that trash bin onto the desktop04:42
SJrXNext question is what is the KDE4 equivilant of kicker. It seems to crash when I use KDE 3 krandrtray.04:43
NickPrestaOn the nvidia website for the latest binary driver (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html), it shows version 169.07. When I open `nvidia-settings`, I see version: 100.14.19. How does this version number compare to that on the nvidia website? I assume the nvidia driver released on Dec. 20th, isn't available in the repos yet.04:44
NickPrestahey ardchoille04:44
ardchoillehi NickPresta  :)04:45
sigma_123i dont get y people use kicker. its such a mission04:47
SJrXmission?04:47
bazhangkbfx is far superior04:47
kyeIn order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?04:47
SJrXis that even kde?04:47
sigma_123kbfx is the alternative kmenu hey?04:48
bazhangin the repos so yes if you mean does it work with kde--replacement for kmenu04:48
sigma_123i find it a mission because i find using actual shortcuts easier04:49
SJrXhmmmm I generally use konsole04:49
sigma_123btt i gues it depends on wat u use it 404:50
bazhangtrue; useless mostly04:50
sigma_123lol04:50
sigma_123i remember kicker. took me about a month2figure out wat it did04:51
bmk789how do i configure katapult?04:51
bmk789!katapult04:52
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.04:52
sigma_123oops i was talking bout katapult.  nt kicker04:52
sigma_123!kicker04:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:53
sigma_123what is kicker?04:54
bazhanghttp://www.kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Katapult_Configurations bmk78904:54
kyeIn order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?04:54
sigma_123katapult is wat i found 2b utterly useless04:55
sigma_123i think the k button is one icon. im sure u can change it seperately04:56
bazhanghttp://www.kde-look.org/ kye04:56
kyebut im not sure on how to change the icon...04:56
weijianhuahello04:56
ardchoillekye: iirc, it's kmenu.png , search for that image and change it04:57
sigma_123yeah look there. those icons wil hav instructions but whats wrong with the k menu button?04:57
bazhangkye: do you have access to a prominent search engine? it took me 2 seconds to find that link :}04:58
sigma_123looks beta that someones start button. lol:)04:58
sigma_123i wonder how developed kde will be by the time the next microsoft release comes out05:01
bazhang2012? probably pretty far along05:01
kyethank you05:01
sigma_123it seems 2b catching up in leaps and strides05:01
sigma_123actually in some aspects its already way ahead of da game05:02
sigma_123at least it can run on more pcs than windows vista can:)05:04
bmk789bazhang: thanks05:07
bazhangno worries bmk78905:08
bmk789is anyone else using an intel X3100?05:09
paperfunknope05:13
bazhangissues bmk789?05:15
bmk789bazhang: none yet, just wondering if its worth trying compiz fusion on it05:16
bazhangbmk789: why not? that seems to be the uber card these days :}05:17
bmk789i guess ill go for it05:17
bmk789"Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found"  doesnt want to run05:20
bmk789ok now im impressed05:21
bmk789that was extremely easy05:21
bmk789and works very smoothly05:21
bmk789might drop my 6-7 hour battery life though05:21
kkathmangreetings - in File management mode for Konqueror in Gutsy, where is the "Windows" menu option that allows you to split panes vertically and horizontally and thus add panes ?05:27
kkathmandid this go away ?05:27
bazhangbmk789: haha on the battery life; but likely true05:29
se7enkkathman: view>split view or ctrl+shif+L05:29
kkathmanse7en:  In previous versions there was an option to split vertical or horizontal05:32
kkathmanse7en:  for instance if I wanted 4 panes in a 2 x 2 grid I could split left right, then split each pane top/bottom05:32
kkathmanoh wait its under the view now??05:32
kkathmanhmm05:33
kkathmanbut not available in dolphin :(05:33
se7enkkathman: dolphin only split into left and right konqueror as often as you like05:34
kkathmanright05:34
momalAnyone here set up 5.1 before? I can't seem to get my center speaker working. Speaker is pluged in and does work in windows(or if i plug it into another slot) center is turned up in alsa mixer. doesn't work playing mp3s (amarok set in 5.1) or playing dvds that are 5.1 audio. rest of speakers are fine (except rear left/right when playing mp3s)05:36
slim_hello everyone, I'm having some problems with apache2 on kubuntu.... first one is: I can't seem to get apache to execute .cgi scripts, it just shows it as plain text05:43
slim_my other problem involves mysql only running once then having a problem restarting... any help on either issue would be appreciated05:46
slim_I am using 7.10 if that helps05:47
slim_am I communicating correctly in here?05:50
NickPrestaslim_, yeah but there appears to be no one around who can help you with apache related questions. You might want to try pastebin'ing your whole question and asking it later05:52
slim_ok thank you, I wasn't sure if my messages were making it through05:54
ardchoilleslim_: And there's always http://ubuntuforums.org05:54
se7enwhat does that error in kmail mean Recipient Rejected: Relay not allowed05:55
slim_...and google too, right?05:56
NickPrestaslim_, as for the CGI problem, make sure you have: "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" directive (as well as ExecCGI to the Options directive). Aside from that, I don't know much about the Apache package in the repos.05:56
* NickPresta sighs05:56
Yurivilcahttp://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t06:31
YurivilcaCheck out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance!06:31
WaYhi06:40
Xplicithey06:40
WaYi dont have my system button on my kbuntu06:41
WaYhow can i access here?06:41
WaYSystem -> Preferences -> Appearance06:41
xbehave_[06:43] <Xplicit> well im not100% as i use a system settings menu from pannel instead but my system settings (windows style 1) is under the command '   systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m  ' way06:47
shashaihi there can any one help me plz how to remove network manager ?06:57
shashaii want to install wicd06:57
xbehave_does it conflict?07:01
Greeneryhow to make kate render the japanese text properly?07:09
Greenerynvm found it07:11
adamonline46Hello.  I can't rip a DVD for the life of, doesn anyone have a suggestion that might help me out?07:13
SJrXdon't commit felonies07:13
adamonline46Hah, I just want to choose which machine I want to watch it on, and store the DVD itself somwhere out of the kids reach07:14
SJrXhmmm07:15
SJrXbut you live in America. You elected a government which does not believe in Fair Use Rights.07:15
ardchoilleSJrX: That's ot, please take it elsewhere07:15
SJrXhmmmm07:15
adamonline46The funny thing about an election is that 49% of folk can disagree with the 'majority', and still be ruled by a government that's humiliated me.07:16
adamonline46er, something to that effect.  I just want to copy a damn DVD so _I_ can watch it.  If you can help me, please do 8)07:16
ardchoille!dvd07:17
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:17
ardchoilleadamonline46: k9copy does a good job of copying dvd's07:17
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SJrXKDE changes my screen size when I log in. Where do I change this?07:18
hypernewbiekcontrol07:19
adamonline46ardchoille: Dang, yeah... That's what I'm using.  It seems to work, but I only get sound and freezing/long-term screenshots when I try to play the ripped AVI's.  Other than that, I can see it ripping, and it doesn't throw any errors.  I'm going on a couple months with this issue, it just resurfaced.  If anyone (or you, ardchoille) might be willing to help me beyond Ubotu calls, I'd be ever grateful 8)07:19
SJrXhypernewbie that doesn't seem to save ever.07:20
SJrXand shudder um, this is KDE 407:20
ardchoilleadamonline46: I know acidrip can rip a dvd into a nice avi, maybe check out acidrip07:20
hypernewbieSJrX: wierd07:21
adamonline46SJrX: You can look under /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and delete any screen resolutions that aren't what you want...  I suspect that will 'force' a proper resolution for ya...07:21
adamonline46ardchoille: I shall, thank you :)07:21
SJrXhmmmmm that won't work either as I need the other resolution07:21
ardchoilleadamonline46: yw07:22
SJrXKDE 4 seems to render 1280x1024 backwards.07:22
SJrXas in it renders 1024x128007:22
SJrXand when I resize it, the Kbar doesn't move.07:22
SJrXwhich is all but useless.07:22
adamonline46ardchoille: Well, it seems to be working about as much as k9copy so far... I'll let you know, if you don't mind helpin me out, should this fail 8)07:26
ardchoilleadamonline46: I'm not much at copying dvd's, I have copied one once or twice and I know k9copy and acidrip can do it. Beyond, that I'm afraid I won't be much help.07:27
adamonline46ardchoille: Very well, I appreciate it... I've got about as much experience as you :)  I think I only own like 8 or so DVDs, I just decided I'd rather not have to hunt through the 'massive' pile to play the one I want; I'm a file kinda guy 8)  Happy holidays, etc; thanks again 8)07:30
ardchoilleyw :)07:32
adamonline46ardchoille: <3 finally!  :D07:36
ardchoilleadamonline46: Did acidrip do it?07:41
adamonline46I think so.  It seems to have only ripped one episode (got family guy DVDs for xmas), but it works!  I'm gonna play with it some more and make sure it's the acidrip rip that's functional, I'm almost positive it is 8) Thank again!07:45
ardchoilleGlad it's working, play with it and you might figure out more :)07:47
adamonline46Yeah, definitely... It's still actin' weird, but at least I got some video out of it... Well, I've got to put it off til tomorrow... Gnight 8)07:52
sigraHow do you set ubuntu to auto login08:01
sigraon bootup08:01
grycsigra: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm08:03
grycand with that, anyone know if there's an applet like Kxkb but for languages instead of keyboard layouts?08:04
sigrai dont have a login manager and not sure which package gives it..when search for it on add/remove program08:05
jussi01sigra: you are on kubuntu?08:06
sigrayes but i installed gnome on it..and using gnome08:07
jussi01sigra: it should be under system settings -> advanced -> sessions08:07
sigrawith kdm on boot08:07
jussi01sigra: #ubuntu for gnome help ;)08:07
krautmoin08:16
sigraI have question.  I am only one with login to my system but when i went log out..it showed another login on the kdm...sabayon-admin?08:17
ardchoillesigra: sabayon? Are you using kubuntu or sabayon?08:21
sigraI am using kubuntu08:21
ardchoillesigra: At the command prompt, type: who08:21
ardchoilleThat should tell you who is logged in08:21
sigrai rebooted just shows me now but when i go to login window.  it shows a user named sabayon-admin with a home directory of  /var/run/sabayon-admin08:22
sigrawhen I do who08:22
rbbhi everyone08:26
sigrawierd.  not having to give a password to open up add/remove program now either.08:27
ardchoillesigra: Did you happen to enable the root account?08:28
rbbi've got a problem. I was messing with xgl, but it didn't work and now i cannot logon. I get the kdm prompt, enter my username and then it doesnt do anything. I just get my background and nothing else08:28
rbbi also tried to install kde 4 rc08:28
sigraroot dont work on my computer for somereason08:28
sigranever has08:29
noaXess!suspend08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
ardchoillesigra: That's good, that is the way it's supposed to be08:29
ardchoille!xgl | rbb08:29
uboturbb: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:29
sigrabut its not asking me for password now..when i enter alot packages it used ask for08:29
rbbhow do I delete that shit08:30
sigraand I have a user showing up on my list now that i have no ideal who it is08:30
ardchoillesigra: If you've recently input the password, it won't ask you again for a short time, the admin passwd gets cached08:30
sigrayeah but i rebooted and just click it and went right on in08:30
ardchoillerbb: Perhaps someone in #compiz-fusion can help you with xgl stuff.08:30
ardchoillesigra: Weird08:30
sigrahow do i check to see if root is enabled or not?08:31
rbbbut i DON'T need it. It has to be REMOVED. My GPU isn't supported08:31
rbbi can start kde manually...08:32
rbb(failsafe, startkde), but if it's ready, my session is closed and i get another logon prompt08:33
ardchoillesigra: You can do "sudo cat /etc/shadow" and the root account should be listed with a "!", (example: root:!:) instead of a "*" at the top of that file. That means the root account is locked.08:33
rbbhow do i force xorg to start kde by default? I just installed kde 4 rc208:34
yesdupHi all. does anyone know how to use kgpg to encrypt files. At the moment all it seems to be doing is creating an encryted copy and leaving the original free to be opened???08:35
sigrathere is no ! in the root string08:36
ardchoilleyesdup: In the kgpg options, there is a setting to Shred source files and you can find that in the encrypted section of the kgpg options08:36
ardchoillesigra: Does it show up as "root:*:" instead?08:37
rbbwhen i do "startx" i only get a black&wite back wih an x in the middle08:37
sigrayes08:38
sigrahey i figured out why i got sabayon-admin as a user08:38
sigraits part of that user profile i installed i think lol08:38
sigragonna remove that dont need it08:39
ardchoillesigra: Maybe you set that as the host when you installed?08:39
sigrano.  I know about root..i was using fedora but jsut switch to this..I never mess with it..i use sudo08:39
ardchoilleok08:40
sigraI been using sudo08:40
sigrahow do i turn root off?08:40
rbbok , i could start KDE, but not the new 4, but the old 3.508:41
ardchoillesigra: To lock the root account: sudo passwd -l root08:41
sigrasays password changed08:42
ardchoilleyes08:42
rbbwhere can i find kde in my filesystem?08:42
crazy_busI have a weird problem in kaffeine.  When I´m watching a dvd and alt+tab to another program and come back everything inside the windows starts to shake while playing.  It also continues when I pause.  It sometimes stops after a few seconds and other times doesn´t is there any way to fix it?08:42
sigrathank you ard..now it has that mark !08:43
ardchoillesigra: Good job :)08:43
rbbanyone?08:43
rbbwhere can i find the kde dir on my filesystem?08:43
yesdupNow does anyone know why i cant connect to gmail chat using jabber. i've double checked password and user name, also tried without firewall (gaurddog) i have jabber and irc ports open. Kopete says "cannot contect as service is not allowed" ???08:43
sigranow figure out why amarok which was workign great..is now saying i have no plug ins and other errors.  i been googling ..seems there is very bad bug with it08:44
ardchoillerbb: find / -type d kde08:44
ardchoilleyesdup: I didn't know you could use jabber to connect to gmail08:45
dhq is there any finger print software for linux08:45
ardchoilleyesdup: gmail is an email protocol, jabber is a chat protocol, I could be wrong, but I don't think they can connect to each other08:46
yesdupOpps did i read wrong some where  :-(08:46
ardchoilleyesdup: Maybe you did, or maybe you confused gmail with google talk?08:47
yesdupYes i meant google talk. but i use my gmail account to access08:47
ardchoilleyesdup: I don't think jabber can do that08:48
yesduphttp://www.asinen.org/info/kopetetalk/ just found this quickly.08:49
rbbfound it08:49
rbbbye08:49
ardchoilleyesdup: I stand corrected. And thank you, that is information I didn't previously have.08:50
patrick_Hallo! I have an ATI Mobility X1400. When I updated to the december driver release of ATI my resolution sucks. I don't get my 1600 which i had previously... any idea what could be the problem?08:52
yesdupJust for info. finnally connected to google talk. all connection options must be checked09:02
yesdupalso the server is talk.google.com not gmail.com09:02
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rionerhello09:23
jussi01!hi09:23
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:23
rionerany one know how to comprees file with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?09:24
rionerany one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?09:24
arturo=S09:28
arturohola?09:28
ardchoilleHi arturo09:30
jussi01!es | ardchoille09:30
ubotuardchoille: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:30
jussi01!es | arturo09:30
ubotuarturo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:30
arturo=O thank's =)09:31
* ardchoille blinks09:31
rionerany one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?09:31
ardchoillerioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that.09:32
jussi01!tar09:32
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression09:32
rioner <ardchoille> rioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that.  <<< How and where the main page ?09:35
llutzrioner: "man tar" in a console09:36
jussi01rioner: type man tar09:36
jussi01!man09:36
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:36
corporealaaaah finally home in my dear kubuntu09:42
corporealhow i missed you09:42
* corporeal swears never to put vista on this thing again09:42
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sarvehi09:51
jussi01!hi | sarve09:51
ubotusarve: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:51
sarveis it possible to have both kde and gnome09:52
corporealsarve: of course.09:52
sarve?09:52
corporealsarve: i personally install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on top of it. i get both kde3 and whatever gnome version comes with ubuntu09:52
corporealsarve: if you wanna get real crazy, get ubuntu-server and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop, then kubuntu-desktop. :-p09:53
sarveI know that i can find these information by searching google. but its fun to chat about it09:53
corporeal:-p09:53
sarvemy monitor is kind of low, I'm now downloading alternate cd of ubuntu 7.10, is it possible to install kde on ubuntu later too?09:55
sarvei'm totally newbie on linux(kubuntu 7.04), i'm trying to learn more and then install it on my laptop09:55
corporealsarve: of course it is. hehe09:56
emilsedghsarve: yes its possible09:56
corporealsarve: doing things on linux as far as software installation and removal, is such a far cry from what you're probably used to (on windows?) it'll blow your mind09:56
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sarvetell me about it, I used to work with corel linux on my pentium II but those days it seems like a hobby. but switching completely to linux is another story. although its really difficult to install a sotware whish is not listed in add/remove.09:59
unixa low ha10:02
unixany body here10:03
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pagunix, 297 nicks at the moment ;)10:03
unix_later10:03
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sarvei really miss itunes on linux. specially cover flow option. is there any clone for linux?10:06
LynoureWhat is the cover flow option?10:06
sarvei dont need to work with ipod. i just miss the apple design10:06
sarvecover flow, when you see album artwork in a row with refelction10:07
Lynoureyou can see album artwork in amarok, too, but not in that variant of eyecandy10:07
sarvefor moree info: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/ITunes_7.5.png/800px-ITunes_7.5.png10:08
sarveyes i know. why apple doesn't want to make a linux version10:09
sarveI remeber a link on digg.com but it doesn't convince me10:09
Lynouresarve: you could write them and ask.10:10
LynoureProbably one reason they don't make a linux version is that most people do not ask for one10:11
sarvewhich OS has more user? OSX or Linux?10:12
ardchoille!ot | sarve10:13
ubotusarve: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:13
sarveoh thank you. sorry10:13
noobuntui have this problem. how can it be solved? wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device10:15
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milestonehi all10:48
milestoneis it possible within kmail to convert an existing imap account to a disconnected imap account?10:48
crazy_busI'm trying to view a dvd on my old computer.  But when-ever their cpu activity it's extremly jittery.  Feisty and previous versions never had this problem.  Is there anyway to fix it?10:50
ardchoille!dma | crazy_bus10:54
ubotucrazy_bus: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA10:54
crazy_busardchoille: it seems I have dma enabled11:04
poisonmornin guys11:05
jpatrickmoin11:06
poisonim havin a TK error with aMSN whilke trying to access any users log11:06
poisonwhile*11:06
jpatrickwell, I've always used Kopete11:07
michaelGood morning11:09
michaelwhat makes USB ports stop working?11:09
michaelthey all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything11:10
michaelonce in a while they will work, but the next day they wont11:10
michaelit started happening after a fresh install of 7.1011:11
michaelweird11:11
ThecksIs it possible to upgrade to KDE4 RC2 without overwriting my KDE install?11:15
ThecksFor instance, I was on Gnome (Ubuntu), Installed KDE via apt and now I can select both from the login menu11:15
ThecksCan I do the same for KDE 4?11:15
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JucatoThecks: yep. that's the way it's set up right now11:17
JucatoKDE4 RC2 will install in a different directory11:17
ThecksAwesome, do I get it via apt?11:17
ThecksI can see how to get it and build via SVN but... =p11:18
pagThecks, consider reading the topic ;)11:19
ThecksI'll consider it =P ty11:19
ThecksFAQs?11:20
pag" KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php " ;)11:20
michaelwhat makes USB ports stop working?11:22
michaelit started happening after a fresh install of 7.1011:23
michaelonce in a while they will work, but the next day they wont11:23
michaelthey all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything11:23
ThecksThanks.. lots of downloading to do now =p11:25
foibleswhoa, has anyone tried elive yet?11:27
foiblesim on it right now, and its awesome11:27
ThecksI've tried it, wasn't too impressed to be honest =[11:27
foiblesthe way they put it together is excellent11:27
foiblesThecks, why not?11:27
ThecksToo many things didn't work as I wanted11:28
ThecksE.g. SD card readers and such11:28
foiblesThecks, its all working out nicely for me11:28
foibleseven recognized my legacy video drivers11:28
foibleswhich most distros miss the mark on11:28
michaellove the OSX look11:33
sarvei download firefox 3 beta and unzip it. but i don't know how to istall it. I searched on the internet but i can't found out.11:34
sarvethers is "run-mozilla.sh" file, but i can not run it with "sh" command11:36
Ubuntubruger3Hello there. I'm new to Linux and recently installed Ubuntu. Yesterday I added the Kubuntu-desktop. How do I active the compiz-fusion in Kubuntu? (it already works in Ubuntu)11:39
emilsedgh!compiz | Ubuntubruger311:40
ubotuUbuntubruger3: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion11:40
Ubuntubruger3thx11:41
Ubuntubruger3!compiz11:41
ciaohi11:41
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion11:41
sarvehow can i install firefox beta on linux. I already download the zip(bz2) file11:42
stdinUbuntubruger3: make sure you install "compiz-kde" and the press Alt-F2 and put in "compiz --replace"11:42
ciaowould it work with 512 mb ram?11:43
bazhangsarve: it is in the repos if you want to try11:43
stdinciao: kubuntu? yeah 512 is fine11:43
ciaocompiz11:43
bazhang!info firefox-3.011:43
ubotufirefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB11:44
stdinciao: depends on what graphics card11:44
ciaoI'm already in kubuntu finally....after messing around with vista and xp11:44
ciaoI think 540011:44
stdinciao: nvidia or ati or what?11:44
ciaonvidia11:44
stdinciao: as long as you install the nvidia driver, it should work fine11:44
ciaojust installed on kubuntu11:44
ciaooooooook so I'll try thx11:45
sarvebazhang: even the beta version?11:45
Thecksuhmm..11:45
ThecksInstall the updated kdebase-bin11:45
ThecksInstall kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime, note that PPAs aren't authenticated so you will likely get a warning when installing11:45
etfbMy Alt+Tab behaviour changed after I installed (and uninstalled) Compiz.  It doesn't display the icons and titles in a window, just swaps immediately to the next task even when I hold the keys down.  Any idea how to get the default behaviour back?11:45
bazhangsarve: apparently not11:45
ThecksI did that, yet I don't see any new apps, and I don't see any new option in the session menu for KDE 4..11:45
stdinciao: if you installed 7.10 (gutsy), just go to System Settings -> Advanced (tab) -> Restricted Drivers  and activate the driver :)11:45
ciaook I'll do it11:46
stdinThecks: you installed all the packages yet?11:46
Thecksstdin yup11:47
ThecksI did: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin11:47
ThecksAnd the same for kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime11:47
stdinThecks: have you tried logging out and seeing what sessions are available? (or switching user and starting a new session)11:49
ThecksI restarted X, checked.. nothing11:49
ThecksRestarted system, checked.. nothing11:49
stdindoes /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop exist on your system?11:49
ThecksNo11:50
Thecks@venus:/usr/share/xsessions$ ls11:50
Thecksgnome.desktop  kde.desktop11:50
etfbHas anyone got compiz to work in KDE?  It messed my system up completely when I tried, and I still have symptoms after removing it.  Any positive experiences?11:50
stdinThecks: try this "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime" and see if it wants to install anything else?11:51
Thecksok11:51
ThecksNope.. nothing11:52
ThecksReading state information... Done11:52
Theckskdebase-workspace is already the newest version.11:52
Theckskdebase-kde4 is already the newest version.11:52
Theckskdebase-runtime is already the newest version.11:52
Thecks0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.11:52
stdinThecks: check if kdebase-workspace-data is installed11:52
ciaoit won't let me modify ..I click on modify as root but nothing happens11:53
Theckskdebase-workspace-data is already the newest version.11:53
Theckskdebase-workspace-data set to manual installed.11:53
stdinThecks: /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop is in kdebase-workspace-data11:54
ThecksThen that's weird11:54
stdinciao: what won't?11:54
ThecksIt says that it is installed and is the newest version11:54
stdinThecks: what version is that package?11:55
ThecksHow do I check?11:55
ciaoin system settings advance restricted drivers....you can tick on the drivers but only if you are root....there's a botton that says become root but it doesnt wor11:55
ciaok11:55
stdinThecks:  "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-data"11:55
stdinciao: that's odd, try closing that down and running it directly as root by pressing Alt-F2 and putting in "kdesu systemsettings"11:56
ThecksThanks11:56
Thecks  Installed: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy111:56
Thecks  Candidate: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy111:56
Thecks*** 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1 011:56
Thecks        500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/universe Packages11:56
Thecks        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status11:56
Thecks     3.94.0-0ubuntu2 011:56
Thecks        500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages11:56
stdinThecks: that's RC1, not RC211:57
Theckshuh..11:57
ThecksI followed the instructions on here..11:57
stdinThecks: make sure you added the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu repo11:57
Theckshttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php11:57
ThecksI added http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main11:57
stdinThecks: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" before installing the packages?11:57
ciaothere's an error it says control that dcopserver is installed11:57
Thecksstdin: No.. no I didnt :s11:58
* Thecks hides11:58
stdinThecks: well, that's why :p, make sure you remove those old packages before installing the new ones or you'll have trouble11:58
stdinciao: what's the exact error that pops up?11:58
ThecksSo, what do I do from here?11:59
ThecksI've run update11:59
ciaoit's in italian lol...so I'm translating it11:59
ThecksDo I reinstall the KDE 4 packages?11:59
ciaook11:59
ciaoI did it11:59
ciaothanks ...it was in the right down corner11:59
stdinThecks: after removing the old ones (it says how on the instructions) you just install the packages again11:59
ciaorestricted driver icon I pressed it and ticked it11:59
ThecksOk12:00
stdinciao: ok, it'll install the driver then ask you to reboot. after that it should be ready to go and you can get compiz on it12:00
ciaoI installed the driver manually first12:00
ThecksThank you stdin12:00
* Thecks gives stdin several cookies12:01
stdinThecks: no problem :)12:01
ciaosudo sh nvidia-blabla.run12:01
ciaostopping the kdm and all that12:01
stdinciao: ah, well that's not the best way to do it, you'll have to reinstall the driver if there's ever a kernel update. but if it's all installed and working you can go ahead and install compiz12:02
ciaook I didn't know that ..now I should wait for the next error12:02
ciaoI'll try to install compiz...what's the easiest way?12:03
stdin!compiz | ciao, follow this guide12:03
ubotuciao, follow this guide: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:03
ciaook thank youuuuuu12:04
stdin:)12:04
rbbi've got a problem with kde 412:14
rbbI hit kde4 in the KDM and it doesn't do anything12:15
rbbafter a while, i get a new login prompt12:15
rbbanyone?12:16
rbbsorry, the systemcrashed12:20
rbbmy system crashes every time I run startkde of kde412:20
rbband kdm doesnt do anything usefull12:21
rbbplease ehelp12:21
rbbmy sysyem does't do anything12:21
rbbsrry, system12:21
SSJ_GZrbb: It's still pre-release software, I'm afraid - crashing is still quite likely :/12:22
PiciKDE4 is beta. Expect issues. Plus this channel doesn't seem particularly active at this time, so be patient.12:22
rbbAnow the whole system is messed up12:23
ThecksYeah, I've got problems12:23
ThecksJust updated and now Adept keeps saying the database is in use12:23
Pici!adeptfix12:23
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:23
rbbon the console, there are  -'-s flickering all over the screens12:23
hussainf12:23
ThecksAwesome12:24
rbband kde3 is also messed up12:24
rbband kdm doesn't do anything anymore12:24
rbbkdm only runs "failsafe"12:24
ueila!compiz12:25
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:25
taime1what is the name of the window decoration in kubuntu?12:29
bazhangkwin taime112:29
taime1its named after the window manager?12:29
bazhangkde is the desktop environment12:30
taime1you didnt understand my question12:30
taime1what is the name of the decoration?12:30
taime1the default decoration12:31
pagtaime1, default decoration is called 'crystal' iirc12:31
bazhangtaime1: me?12:31
taime1ah thanks12:31
zipperI have a logitech mx518 usb mouse. It has a "+" and "-" button for DPI increase/decrease. I want to remap these buttons to pageUP and pageDOWN. Every other button works with Device evdev in xorg.conf. What to do?12:32
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ciaoI have dual boot...give me some reasons to get rid of xp...I want to do it but I'm afraid12:37
Lynoureciao: What are you afraid of?12:37
ciaoI dk...I have tools and things that I'm used to...like visual web developer (i know everyone will hate me)..and actually I never tried to search the equivalent for linux12:38
Lynoureciao: You could keep it until you only use it less than once a month. At that time you'll have to install upgrades to it every time, and that is pretty motivating for removing it :)12:38
ciaoor devC++, but eclipse rules and I use it here12:38
ciaooooooook so from now on I'll do this12:39
ubuntu_ya quelqu'un ?12:40
jpatrick!fr | ubuntu_12:40
ubotuubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:40
ciaooui12:41
ubuntu_c'est bon là ?12:41
ubuntu_ah oui ^12:41
ubuntu_bonjour12:41
ciaomoi j'essayerais a aller en italien12:41
Pici!it12:41
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:41
ubuntu_euh...ya unnn français ?12:42
jpatrickubuntu_: /join #ubuntu-fr12:42
ubuntu_là c'est bon ?12:42
ubuntu_ya un français ?12:43
herr_weltschaftfirefox: lesezeichen>lesezeichen-manager>exportieren funktioniet nicht so, wie es soll. in der so gespeicherten datei "bookmarks.html" steht dann nur ein einziges meiner lesezeichen12:43
jpatrick!de | herr_weltschaft12:43
ubotuherr_weltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:43
herr_weltschaftoh sorry12:43
ueilain some forums I saw that kubuntu is slower than ubuntu....but I didn't notice that much...actually in some things kubuntu is faster12:45
ueilais that right?12:45
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bazhangnot much difference12:45
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zipperueila: i *think* gnome might be a tad bit faster than gnome, although that should change when KDE4 is released12:49
bazhanggnome faster than gnome? perhaps :}12:51
zippereh12:52
zippergnome fastert than kde =)12:52
zipperi'm really on a roll today12:53
zipperfaster*12:53
bazhanghehe12:53
ThecksKDE 4 is.... big...12:55
jpatrickThecks: some consider it faster than 312:56
ThecksOh Speed it's nice12:56
ThecksI'm talking about the huge task bar at the bottom12:56
ThecksTrying to work out how to resize it12:57
dmHello. I have a usb webcam 0c45:602c which is supported by the ubuntu included gspca driver. When plugging it in the driver is loaded (say dmesg and lsmod) and /dev/video0 is created. But I get error messages when trying to use it: xawtv says "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode", camorama "Could not connect to /dev/video0". It's an ATI video card (if that matters). Any idea?12:57
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Thecksuhmm.. I'm not sure I like the look of KDE 513:07
ThecksKDE 4*13:08
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ueilais there a way to chat directly in terminal and not irc? I'm using irssi now....I mean like inserting the ip or something13:10
kalorinueila: not really13:11
DragnslcrYou can telnet to the IRC server if you want to13:11
kalorinit'd be like asking if there's a way to surf the web in a terminal, in any case you need a client even if it's a text mode client13:11
ueila=( that would be awsome13:11
DragnslcrIt'd be a complete pain, but you're welcome to try13:11
kalorinits' more about the protocols than anything else13:12
kalorinyou'd have to know how to preface joins adn parts and nick changes and all the other stuff that IRC clients do for you13:12
ueilait would be shell messenger :D13:12
ueilayes I imagine the suffering13:12
antixpaul!lynx13:16
ubotuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)13:16
ueiladamir13:22
ueilasei damir di lugano?13:22
damirhi!13:23
damirenglish?13:23
ueilaok no it's not you :D13:23
pawanhi13:24
damirI have a little trouble installing ubuntu 7.10 :\13:27
damirthe installer hangs when 'scanning partitions', thats about 15% progress13:28
zipperHow do one use mono? I have a .net 2.0 application i want to see run in linux13:28
dmWhen I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK  \n  type: v4l2  \n  name: SN9C1xx PC Camera  \n  flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". What's the problem here?13:30
noaXesshi all13:36
noaXessi put some own apps to my home folder to the subfolder apps..13:36
noaXessif i want run this apps over command line and want only put in the executable from the app, without the whole path, where can i define this PATH variable?13:37
PicinoaXess: add PATH=$PATH:/home/user/apps to your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile13:38
SannenoaXess: I would make a link to your executable in /usr/local/bin13:38
Sanneor what Pici said :)13:38
Piciiirc, ~/bin/ is aleady in the path, whether it exists or not.13:39
SannenoaXess: you can check your current PATH by typing: echo $PATH13:40
Baldrunhi all13:41
BaldrunI am trying to use nfs in combination with acl under kubuntu, unfortunately I can't find any info on how to set up acl fpr kubuntu, could anyone give me a hint or an idea? google results were not helpful so far13:42
noaXessPici: thanks...13:43
TonrenI just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10.  My splash graphic is not appearing on boot-up, so I can't see how far into the boot process I am.  (Also it's disconcerting to see absolutely nothing happening on the screen).  How do I enable my boot splash?13:47
damiryou probably need to change x display settings13:48
Tonrendamir: How do I do that?13:48
damirwell, you could edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you need to know what you're doing13:49
Tonrendamir: I tend to know, but I don't know what I should change in xorg.conf to enable bootsplash.13:49
Tonrendamir: I have a crappy integrated ATI 300Mobile graphics card, for which the restricted drivers have been enabled.  Could the problem be there?13:49
damirhm.. possibly. did you see a bootsplash on 1st boot-up?13:50
damirand, does login screen look ok?13:50
Tonrendamir: Unfortunately, I can't remember if I saw a bootsplash before they were enabled.  THe login screen looks just fine, though.13:50
Tonrendamir: My graphics driver is set to "fglrx", which I've heard awful things about.  Should I try changing it to ATI?13:51
damirdo you see a progress screen on system shut-down?13:51
Tonrendamir: No.13:51
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damiryeah, try setting to 'ati'. but make a copy of xorg.conf before you do that. it could mess up your display13:52
Tonrendamir: Don't worry, I know how to log in on the command line and edit xorg.conf without a GUI.  No need for a backup.13:52
Tonrendamir: Should I just restart X or completely shut down?  The problem areas seemed to be with startup & shutdown, but it's kind of a hassle.13:52
damirfor start, just restart x-server and see if your login screen is ok13:53
damirafter setting to ati13:53
Tonrendamir: Okey doke.  Here goes.13:53
damirone more think13:53
damirthing13:53
damirwill you know how to revert changes if your screen is messed up or your x-server doesn't wake up?13:53
Tonrendamir: Okay, my login screen is fine.13:54
damircool :)13:55
Tonrendamir: I'm IRC'ing on a screen'd irssi session on Ctrl + Alt + F1's terminal right now.  :-P13:55
Tonrendamir: I guess I'll try restarting now.13:55
damirk, good luck13:55
TonrenThanks!  I'll be back to bellyache if it doesn't work.  :D13:55
Tonrendamir: No dice.  :-\14:02
SanneTonren: you could disable it altogether and at least get the normal text boot messages14:02
damirtry setting driver to 'vesa' just to see if it's really a driver issue14:02
TonrenSanne: Naw, I'd rather figure out what's wrong and get the shiny boot splash.14:03
Tonrendamir: Good idea.  A moment, though; I'm going to Google for a second, and check the logs too.14:03
SanneTonren: ok, good hunt :)14:03
fairmanHi, i need support for right settings resolutions and frequency on my monitor. Corresponding part of xorg.conf is here - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49682/. I can use only the resolution 800x600 ... why? When i set the "driver" to "nv" instead of "nvidia" it is ok, but i can not use openGL support14:04
noaXessis there a kde mounting tool, that really mounts the networkshare ot any given mount.point? so i can access it over different app?14:05
SanneTonren: two bugs, might be related, might want to look over them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/9024214:05
Sannehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/15622514:05
TonrenSanne: Oh god... The "ati" driver's performance is AWFUL compared to "fglrx".14:05
noaXessi can manually mount a windows share to any mount point, eg. /home/user/server/share-name.. but a gui will be nice?14:05
TonrenSanne: Dear god... the fix might be a CUSTOM KERNEL?!14:06
SanneTonren: dunno, just found those bugs and thought they might help you in some way :)14:07
TonrenSanne: Haha, thanks.  I sure hope I don't need to compile my own kernel.14:07
TonrenMaybe if I just reinstall or reconfigure the bootsplash package...14:07
SanneTonren: before doing that I really would just turn the splash off ;)14:07
SanneTonren: before compiling a kernel, I mean14:08
TonrenSanne: Didn't your grampa tell you to never give up?  ;P14:08
Baldrunhas anyone acl working under kubuntu?14:08
SanneTonren: haha... *I* turned that darn thing off right away, I *want* to see the boot messages ;)14:09
TonrenSanne: I used to feel that way, but I prefer the terse, shiny startup screen now. If something goes wrong, I just check the logs.14:09
SanneTonren: in that case, I wouldn't give up either, but if it's a known bug and you got bitten by it, you might need to build a kernel. So there ;)14:10
TonrenSanne: True, true.14:11
Sanne:)14:11
noaXessany idea? a gui for handling mount points and add diffrent mount point like a network share?14:12
jpatricknoaXess: Filesystems in System Settings?14:13
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noaXessjpatrick: aha.. i see, there i can also add shares.. not only physical mounts :) thanks14:15
ristophp's room is down ?14:19
stdinristo: you need to be identified to join it14:19
noaXessjpatrick: i don't know why... but i can configure all to connection to a win share but if i click ok, nothing happens..14:23
noaXessadding a network share over dolphin works, with the same settings.. but then no mount point will be created..14:23
TonrenDamn.14:24
TonrenArrgh!  How could this really need a custom-compiled kernel!?14:33
SanneBecause it's a bug?14:34
TonrenFor some reason, every Ubuntu update breaks something on my laptop.14:34
TonrenOn 6.10, my scanner GUIs stopped working.  7.04?  Compiz crapped out.  (though that's not really surprising.)  Now, my bootsplash is gone.14:35
axeciao14:37
axeho bisogno di aiuto per ubuntu qualcuno mi puo aiutare ?14:38
Jucato!it | axe14:39
ubotuaxe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:39
axeok14:39
axegrazie14:39
Jeroi!fi | Jeroi14:40
KartiHi all, anyone recommend software for mobile phones so I can put data to Kontact etc14:41
zipperWhat is the keyboard shortcut to "Show Desktop" - like win + d in windows xp14:41
JeroiKarti does thunderbird have mobilephone support in addons?14:41
Jeroizipper you need only one mouse klick14:42
Jeroi2nd image from left oh K-menu14:42
Jeroi*of14:42
zipperJeroi: i dont want 1 mouse click =/14:42
zipperi want a keyboard shortcut14:42
Jeroi:)14:42
* Tm_T slaps Jeroi 14:43
KartiJeroi: I was looking at the equivalent of the nokia pc suite type of thing14:43
Tm_TKarti: gammu & wammu ?14:43
damirzipper: what system version and what desktop manager?14:43
Sannezipper: alt+ctrl+d here (it's customizable)14:44
Tm_TJeroi: -fi is the key btw14:44
damiryay almost completed! i'm updating my 7.04 kubuntu. it's like, 550M of updates14:44
zipperdamir: kubuntu 7.10, guess that means kde3.5514:44
damirzipper: like Sanne said :)14:45
zipperSanne: ah, that works, thanks. Cant find it in keyboard & mouse settings though?14:45
zipperah nvm14:45
Sannezipper: I found it in Regional&Accessibility (Kubuntu Dapper)14:45
zipperi'm blind, found it14:45
zipperthanks14:45
Sanne:)14:45
* Sanne would expect it in keyboard & mouse also14:46
KartiTm_T: Many thnks will look at those  Cheers14:46
TheGateKeeper!fstab14:47
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions14:47
infosysBuona sera a tutti15:11
BluesKajHowdy all  : -)15:11
infosysserver italiano?15:11
BluesKaj!it | infosys15:11
ubotuinfosys: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:11
nightf0xhi, i am running kubuntu 7.10 and it does not want to shutdown. wihtout splash screen it seems to hang at line that says something like "running local boot scripts"15:12
nightf0xthe only way to pwer it down from that is to kill power15:13
nightf0xanyone know how to fix this?15:13
BluesKajnightf0x:  'til you find what script is hanging the powerdown , try ctrl+alt+backspace, then use the login menu to shutdown . I had the same problem at one time and an update of some sort fixed it.15:17
okkiopallatopescara15:18
stdin!it | okkiopallato15:18
ubotuokkiopallato: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:19
tekteenD-MAN: r u here?15:19
jussi01!u | tekteen15:19
ubotutekteen: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..15:19
tekteenjussi01: ok15:19
jussi01:)15:19
tekteenjussi01: I am a slow typer15:20
tekteen:-)15:20
vivek_how to install firefox in kUBUNTU??15:21
tekteenvivek_: open a konsole15:21
trappistsudo apt-get install firefox15:22
jussi01vivek_: go to adept -> search firefox - > click install15:22
tekteenvivek_: and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"15:22
tekteentrappist: wow... I am a slow typer15:22
vivek_I HAVE ALREADY DOWNLOADED firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz15:22
tekteenvivek_: u do not need it15:23
jussi01tekteen: you...15:23
dpreacherhello. what is the package that comes installed with kubuntu gutsy to enable Fn-x key combos in laptop? are there separate packages for separate laptop models or one unified generic package?15:23
vivek_NOW HOW TO INSTALL FROM .TAR.GZ ??15:23
Jucato!caps | vivek_15:23
ubotuvivek_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.15:23
jussi01vivek_: dont.15:23
vivek_SORRY15:23
vivek_sorry15:23
dpreacher:)15:23
tekteenvivek_: do i have a reason to install the .tar.gz?15:24
Jucatodpreacher: afaik, no you don't need anything for enabling Fn-x key combos. at least I didn't15:24
dpreacherfirefox has a binary gui installer isn't it?15:24
tekteenvivek_: we suggest you use the package manager15:24
BluesKajvivek, you came for advice , and your being advised to the package manager adept or apt to install the stable version of firefox15:24
vivek_thanx15:25
dpreacherBluesKaj: perhaps he should've mentioned he downloaded the tar first15:25
vivek_let me use the suggested method15:25
dpreacheri mean we get such slow speeds15:25
dpreacherto ask to redownload...sad sad thing15:25
emilsedghafter upgrading to gutsy i cannot change the brightness with Fn Up/Down :(, also bluetooth is broken, any idea?15:26
vivek_ye ....u r right dpreacher15:26
BluesKaj!tar | viveki15:26
ubotuviveki: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression15:26
tekteenemilsedgh: click on the power manager15:26
padey!katapult15:26
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.15:26
tekteenemilsedgh: that controls the brightness15:27
dpreacherJucato: if i could know the package i could get em working in another distro. since ubuntu n family has it working readily. is there some way to find out from the installed software database i found fn-fx which is made for toshiba...15:27
emilsedghtekteen: i know, that guidance, i want to control it with Fn keys15:28
Jucatoemilsedgh: known Gutsy bug afaik15:28
Jucatodpreacher: sorry, no idea on that one...15:28
tekteenemilsedgh: ok. I do not know. sorry :-(15:28
emilsedghJucato: what about bluetooth?15:29
Jucatothat I don't know :)15:29
dpreacherwhat isthe preferred way of setting up broadcom 4311 rev 01 wifi with kubuntu? ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?15:30
Jucato!broadcom15:31
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx15:31
Jucatodpreacher: ^^^^15:31
dpreacher!ubotu15:32
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:32
dpreacheraha15:32
dpreacherdidn't know about that15:32
dpreacherJucato: thank you. will ask bot next time15:33
Jucatolol :)15:33
dpreachercan it take a phrase with spaces?15:33
Jucatoit actually depends on whether it has the factoid in its database15:33
Jucato(yes it can, depending on the factoid)15:33
Jucatoit's not Google :)15:34
dpreacherwho can contribute to the factoid?15:34
BluesKajshort subject lines are always best , basically one or 2 words, dpreacher15:34
jpatrickdpreacher: anyone15:34
sarveinstall firefox beta kubuntu15:35
sarve?15:35
Jucatowell, anyone can contribute/suggest. but those get redirected to the ops channel15:35
dpreacheri noticed. n thankfully, no 2 million results in 0.02 seconds15:35
bazhanghaha15:35
Jucato(and only a handful can add/edit)15:35
PiciWhere we strike them down with extreme prejudice, er, or accept them, of course.15:35
Jucatoor we laugh at them in private :D15:35
dpreacheru mean approve n enter submissions into actual db15:35
* Jucato twiddles thumbs innocently15:36
BluesKajpici or picky ? :)15:36
dpreacher:)15:36
Jucatoyes. we don't automatically add anything and everything. that would be utter chaos :)15:36
bazhangwikipedibot!15:36
dpreacherspot the bot!15:37
dpreacherwikipedibot... is that for real?15:38
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BluesKajthis new opers browser seems pretty cool, however the xineplugin doesn't seem to work, altho it appears to be part of the pkg. I especially like the integrated chat options15:39
BluesKajopera15:39
PriceChild./cs access #ubuntu list15:39
beermatt;-)15:40
sourcemakerHow can I update amarok from the unsupported repository... and amarok anly... not more packages...?15:40
DarkTanis there anyone in here who can give me a hand?15:41
trappistsourcemaker: sudo apt-get install amarok - if you've got that repo set up right, it will upgrade amarok and any dependencies15:41
vivek_how to enhance the audio quality....the quality was better when i was using Windows XP SP215:41
jpatrick!ask | DarkTan15:41
ubotuDarkTan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)15:41
sourcemakertrappist: but when I settup the repository right... it will also update all unsupported software packages available... not just my amarok15:42
DarkTanok,  kubuntu was reccomended to be as a good choice for my first linux os, i have a IMB Netfinity server that i run as a normal desktop with a 5 HDD scsi array, i can't get the DVD to load on boot tho15:42
trappistsourcemaker: setting up the repository won't update any packages.15:42
DarkTananyone know what i need to do to boot it?15:42
trappistDarkTan: it's probably a bios setting15:42
sourcemakertrappist: all right15:43
DarkTanwell i can boot my windows XP disk, but not the kubuntu disk15:43
trappistDarkTan: oh, that sounds like a bad burn, then15:43
=== dos_ is now known as _dos_
trappisthow did you burn the cd?15:43
vivek_how to enhance the audio quality....the quality was better when i was using Windows XP SP215:44
=== _dos_ is now known as _dos
DarkTani don't know, i checked that too, i can load the disk under windows and access the root of the disk, the folders and the other lopen source on it15:44
=== _dos is now known as _dos_
dpreacherDarkTan: checked the md5 of the image?15:44
trappistvivek_: what audio, in what app, and what sound card do you have15:44
DarkTani used Acohol 120 to burn it15:44
DarkTanmd5?15:44
dpreacher!md515:44
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:44
dpreacherDarkTan: take a look15:45
vivek_trappist: In windows i was using Vinyl Audio Deck and mediamonkey.....in Kubuntu i use Amarok15:45
XcellMornin.15:46
dpreacherif you copy disc to disc and want to verify the md5. can you do it without storing an image on hard disc15:46
Dr_willis'burn at once' is a decent free tool under windows to burn iso image files.15:49
stdindpreacher: you only need to store the md5sum on the disk, then check the md5sum of the burnt disk against the one in the file15:49
Dr_willisNot sure if it can check md5sums - that would be a nice feature. I do recall a md5sum tool for windows that put 'check sum' on the context menu.15:49
usuariowonder fulll love15:49
DTi have the iso on the HDD from when i d/l it so that's not a problem15:49
DTit spat out a pile of god only knows what and it beeping at me15:50
BluesKajimgburn is another free image file burning app15:50
BluesKajin windows15:50
bazhangisorecorder2 is okay as well15:50
dpreacherstdin: hmm...reminds me of fedora's test media option. is it there on kubuntu disk?15:51
Dr_willisThe freeones are often MUCH better then the comercial ones.. Heh.15:51
dpreacherinfrarecorder15:51
Dr_willisdpreacher,  i dont recall seeing such an option. It would be nice..15:51
dpreacherworks from pen drive/usb drive15:51
Dr_willisbut perhaps i overlooked it.15:51
stdindpreacher: yeah, it's one of the options at boot on the disk15:51
stdinit's either the last one, or one before last15:52
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DThmm md5sum seems to have frozen under DOS15:53
philipp_wie kann ich die Felstplatte /mnt/hda1 von lese auf schreib-lesezugriff ummounten?15:53
DTinteresting15:53
jpatrick!de | philipp_15:53
ubotuphilipp_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:53
=== philipp_ is now known as hufi
DThere's what i get: http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/RollingD34th/md5sum.jpg15:53
DToh wait, i just changed15:53
dpreacherhmm..that's ok. i was wondering if i'd to finally compel myself to learn some commands to verify an md5 of a disk manually. like what if the lug wants to distribute kubuntu cd's and we could preferably test the media's md5 before handing out copies.15:53
dos!pl | dos15:53
DTfailed open or read when trying the md5sum on the iso file15:54
hufihow i can remount a harddisk from reat to write reade mode?15:54
jussi01!md5 | dpreacher15:54
ubotudpreacher: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:54
DTthat dosen't make sense tho15:54
=== alex_ is now known as Selfarian
DTacohol 120 and daemon tools could load the iso to a virutal drive15:55
DTi can view the burnd files on the DVD too15:55
=== hufi is now known as _hufi_
dpreacherjussi01: i just queries md5 already. and i had the answer from people here before. i just wrote an example situation. but thanks for being so generous :D15:55
jussi01:)'15:55
kyeIm having a little issue with my compiz.. i have to move the mouse all the way tp the top in order to see mey borders then all the way back down to see my taskbar any ideas?  I have also tried changing my res but that doesnt have any effect at all?15:56
_hufi_how i can remount a harddisk from reat only mode to read and write mode?15:56
xbehave_Is there a cpu-z equivelent for linux?15:56
Jucatoxbehave_: try KInfoCenter15:57
Picisudo lshw  also shows a lot of information that you probably dont actually want.15:58
* genii sips a coffee15:59
Dr_willis_hufi_,  mount has a remount option, check the mount man pages. IF the disk was read/write , and suddnely became read only. The system may of detected an errior on the disk and forced it to be read only - untill it can get checked.15:59
Sannexbehave_: this might also help: cat /proc/cpuinfo15:59
DTdpreacher, I can't PM15:59
Jucatohello genii :)15:59
geniiHi Jucato :)16:00
JucatoSanne, xbehave_: cat /proc/meminfo (for RAM) too16:00
* genii puts a pot of coffee on16:00
Sannenice one, Jucato, didn't know that, thanks :)16:00
=== DT is now known as DarkTan_
* BluesKaj passes coffee and tea around to all who imbibe :)16:01
dpreacherDT: whats the windows xp theme that you used in that photobucket screenshot?16:01
* Dr_willis gets hypped up on sugar and caffine and starts bouncing around the channel.16:01
Sanne:)16:01
Dr_willis:)  - but now i gotta run.. bbl.16:01
BluesKajmornin' genii, Jucato, Dr_willis16:01
BluesKaj& jpatrick16:02
geniiBluesKaj: Thanks :)16:02
jpatrickBluesKaj: pardon?16:02
BluesKaj'mornin'16:02
Jucatohi BluesKaj16:02
jpatrickafternoon BluesKaj16:02
BluesKaj:)16:03
dpreachernight16:03
* genii sips16:03
xbehave_Jucato: cat /proc/meminfo only gives my usage info i need to know what ram to replace it with16:05
Jucatooh16:05
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Jucatoxbehave_: you can use cpu-z in wine... I tried it before. not sure how reliable that would be though...16:06
xbehave_ahh good idea thx16:07
bazhangxbehave_: how old is the computer? less than two years old? more?16:07
xbehave_dont know its a laptop, id guess around two years16:07
bazhangddr2 667 then xbehave--why not just crack it open and look?16:08
DarkTan_hmmm....i wonder if this will do anything16:08
* DarkTan_ unplugs other CD drive16:08
xbehave_i did but it had some korean make on and i couldnt make out any details16:09
bazhangxbehave_: less than two years should be the ddr2 667, perhaps slightly slower though16:10
vivekhow to configure Gmail in Kontact??16:14
Selfarianhi there.16:16
SelfarianI have following problem: i want to download a file and it doesnt work :-()16:16
tekteenSelfarian: is there a error?16:16
Selfarianno16:17
mdasilvais there a way to mount a directory via ssh?16:17
Selfarianhttp://projects.blender.org/frs/download.php/268/blend2cs-0.2.5.tar.gz <--- this is the link16:17
tekteen!sshfs16:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sshfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:17
tekteen!info sshfs16:17
ubotusshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB16:17
PiciSelfarian: Doesn't work here either.16:17
tekteenmdasilva: u want sshfs16:17
PiciIts not jsut you.16:17
Selfarianhm.... damn it16:18
Selfarianah ok... was the wrong link ... damn it... thank you ;)16:20
mdasilvahow do you initialize a FS ssh mount in kubuntu?16:20
tekteenmdasilva: have u installed sshfs?16:21
mdasilvainstalling now16:21
mdasilvastrange, i thought it would already be available16:21
mdasilvathis is a ubuntu distro that i downloaded the kbuntu-desktop package16:21
tekteenmdasilva: do u need it to be in the file system or just the file manager16:22
mdasilvaboth16:22
tekteenmdasilva: ok16:22
mdasilvabut if the file manager has it built in that would be useful as well16:22
tekteenmdasilva: in konqueror fish://user@host/ is ssh16:22
mdasilvai see16:23
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mdasilvaneat, thanks tekteen16:23
tekteennp16:23
mdasilvai haven't touched kde in a long time16:24
tekteenmdasilva: ok16:24
llutz!ntfs-3g16:32
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:32
vivekhow to configure Gmail in Kmail16:33
trappistvivek: you'll set it up as a pop3 account.  you can get the settings from the gmail site.16:34
Jucatohttp://element14.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/setting-up-gmail-in-kmailkontact/ looks good16:35
FOADWhen I boot (cq log in to the graphical system), my USB drives won't show on the desktop, and they are not mounted either.  Same problem when I ctrl-alt-backspace out of X and back again.  Currently  I unplug/plug a device, and then all devices show up on my desktop (but still unmounted).  How can I ensure that 1) the devices show up on logging in and 2) get mounted straightaway?  I don't want to put things in fstab, because not all devices may be present.16:35
vivekwhat to mention in the host field??16:35
=== NetersLandreau_ is now known as NetersLandreau
FOADAnyone?  Bueller?16:46
BluesKajhmmm, what's the command for removing/uninstalling compiled apps ?16:52
jpatrickBluesKaj: make uninstall from the build dir16:53
Jucatomake uninstall16:53
Jucatopft16:53
DragnslcrUsually make uni16:53
DragnslcrBlah16:53
PiciBluesKaj: also you may want to use checkinstall to make removing easier.16:53
* jpatrick wins16:53
Pici!checkinstall | BluesKaj16:53
ubotuBluesKaj: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!16:53
PiciIn the future that is.16:53
geniiBluesKaj: If there is no uninstall in the makefile, try instead make clean or make dist-clean16:58
=== yerkorn is now known as YerKorn
BluesKajok thx gents, appreciate it :)16:59
FOADWhen I boot (cq log in to the graphical system), my USB drives won't show on the desktop, and they are not mounted either.  Same problem when I ctrl-alt-backspace out of X and back again.  Currently  I unplug/plug a device, and then all devices show up on my desktop (but still unmounted).  How can I ensure that 1) the devices show up on logging in and 2) get mounted straightaway?  I don't want to put things in fstab, because not all devices may be present.16:59
jhutchins_wkFOAD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions17:01
jhutchins_wkFOAD: That's more for auto-mounting windows partitions, but since usb devices are usually FAT32 it should apply.  Tells you how to set 'em up in fstab.17:01
FOADjhutchins_wk: thanks for the pointer.  Reading it now.17:02
vivekquit17:04
vivek!quit17:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:04
vivek!exit17:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:04
FOADTry /quit.17:04
FOADI helpeded!17:04
kkathmanlol17:04
FOADjhutchins_wk: sadly it's all about editing fstab, which is exactly what I am not after...17:07
kkathmanFOAD I assume your USB drives are windows/FAT drives ?17:10
kkathmanbecause if they are linux drives they WILL automatically mount17:10
FOADNo, ext3.17:10
FOADkkathman: well, obviously you are wrong.17:10
kkathmanthen you are doing something wrong, because I have one that I mount everyday17:10
FOADBecause they WON'T.17:11
kkathmanno Im not I17:11
FOADFine, I'm doing something.17:11
FOADBut what?17:11
FOADThis is a fresh 7.10 install.17:11
FOADOf Kubuntu.17:11
FOADSomething wrong, that is.17:11
kkathmanyes, because this one does  not a problem whatsoever17:11
FOADOk, we've established that you have no problem.17:11
kkathmannow windows ones will not17:11
FOADHowever I do.17:11
FOADAnd again, if I do unplug/plug a device once in the desktop, they all show up.17:12
kkathmannow I will say that under ubuntu/kubuntu they auto-mount, but on my openSUSE system they do not - I have to manually issue a mount command17:12
FOADNot mounted though.17:13
kkathmanif you can see them using fdisk -l  usually they show up as sdb or sdc or something17:13
kkathmanthen just issue the mount command on it17:13
sourcemakerare there any logs for the last kernel panic?17:13
FOADDisk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000215724032 bytes17:14
FOAD255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121602 cylinders17:14
FOADUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes17:14
FOADDisk identifier: 0x00047ce717:14
FOADDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System17:14
FOAD/dev/sdb1               1      121602   976768033+  83  Linux17:14
FOAD17:15
FOADThat's one of my drives, once mounted "by hand".  See.  No win.17:15
FOADAnd I can mount them by hand yes, I just want it to be so I don't have to do that.17:15
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kkathmanFOAD I wonder if there was something that you might have inadvertantly done to disable auto-mount?17:16
kkathmanI haven't researched if thats possible17:16
FOADI suppose so.  It's never worked since installing, though.17:17
kkathmanFOAD you could probably test it by plugging in a thumbdrive perhaps - if that doesnt auto mount, then thats the problem17:17
FOADOh, it automounts fine.17:17
FOADI lie.17:17
Condoulohow would I install ATI drivers on Kubuntu 7.04?17:18
FOADIt appears on the desktop, but it does not get mounted.17:18
FOADNow, I can check "Mount automaticall" in Properties.17:18
FOADAnd then it does mount automatically when I replug it.17:19
FOADBut I've already checked that for all my other drives.17:19
FOADAnd I still get nothing on starting X.17:19
kkathmanI found this FOAD in Google - dunno if it helps:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/13036717:19
kkathmanthere are few other postings on automount17:19
FOADSadly no; that's what I just did.17:21
FOADBut thanks for looking.17:21
jussi01FOAD: and what happens when you sudo mount -a ??17:22
jussi01do the drives mount?17:22
jussi01FOAD: also, in future, please use !paste17:23
sourcemakeris there a log file for kernel panics?17:23
FOADjussi01: that only looks in fstab and as I think I said, I do not want to enter these drives in fstab.17:23
FOADjussi01: okay, !paste it is, if need be.17:24
jussi01FOAD: sorry if I mised something. but why do you not want them in fstab?17:26
FOADjussi01: because it is not necessarily true that all, or any, of these drives are present when I boot.17:26
jussi01FOAD: ahh, these are external dirves?17:26
FOADAnd in fact, other external drives may be there, and I'd like them to show.17:26
FOADYes.17:26
Jimnasticscan any one advise me an app that has a built in email server and can send mails to multiple recipients at high speed? i want to send emails to subscribers.?17:27
jussi01!info sympa17:27
ubotusympa: Modern mailing list manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.2.4-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3503 kB, installed size 14040 kB17:27
CondouloI have a question. Does Kubuntu7.10 offer Compiz Fusion by default?17:27
jussi01!compiz | Condoulo17:27
ubotuCondoulo: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:27
jhutchins_wkFOAD: That's how you configure drives to mount is by modifying fstab.17:27
jhutchins_wkFOAD: You have no reason not to do that.17:27
Condoulook17:27
FOADjhutchins_wk: uhm, when I put stuff in fstab that isn't actually physically there, the box complains badly.  Also agian, there might be drives that weren't there before.17:28
FOADAlso since it is obviously possible for Linux/Kubuntu/whatevs to autodetect new drives, why not right after launching into X/the DE?17:29
Jimnasticscan any one advise me an app that has a built in email server and can send mails to multiple recipients at high speed? i want to send emails to subscribers.?17:30
FOADAnd, FWIW, this worked perfectly fine under my previous 7.04, which I had to trash.17:30
FOADJimnastics: you spammer, you already got an answer to cater to your spamming needs.17:31
geniiFOAD: Heh :) I was thinking same thing17:31
JimnasticsFOAD i said 'my subscribers'17:31
FOADOf course you did.17:31
FOADSo what are they subscribing to?17:32
jussi01Jimnastics: I just advised you of one...17:33
FOADDum de dum...17:34
Jimnasticsjussi01 thx17:34
jussi01FOAD: Im sorry,I dont have an answer atm.17:35
FOADjussi01: that's cool, thanks for thinking along with me.17:35
jussi01:)17:35
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Jimnasticsjussi01 any other?17:45
jussi01Jimnastics: what kind of subscriber list is it?17:45
Jimnasticsjussi01 uptades about my company and products17:46
Jimnasticsjussi01 uptades about my company and products send to all subscribers weekly17:46
FOADUrl?17:47
hydrogenwhy does it matter?17:47
FOADIt doesn't matter.17:47
FOADWhy should it matter?17:47
jussi01Jimnastics: do you need an iterface for them to sign up to the list with?17:48
jussi01Jimnastics: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html17:49
jussi01!rootirc | root_17:51
uboturoot_: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.17:51
goonie(R)17:52
Jimnasticsjussi01 they already have subscribed. i have their emails. i just need to send them mails.17:52
zipperI'm trying to use crontab, but i cant seem to get it right. Error : http://pastebin.com/m359ce2e17:52
goonieTrying to figure out why my IDE drives are showing up as serial devices.  Anyone seen this?  /dev/sdb instead of /dev/hdb17:53
stsofti noticed, but i dont know why17:54
goonieyours is the same?17:54
stsoftyeah17:54
goonieOdd.17:55
Jeroimus satadrives are sda17:55
Jeroiide drives are hda17:55
gooniecorrect.17:55
stsoftstadrives n' USB17:55
jussi01goonie: 7.10?17:55
goonieso why would an ide drive show up as sdb17:55
Jeroimy17:55
goonie?17:55
stsoft7.1017:55
jussi01goonie: your pc has an identity crisis...17:55
goonie7.??17:56
jussi01goonie: gutsy or feisty17:56
gooniewhad you call me?17:56
Picior.. what does lsb_release -a  say?17:57
stsoftgooni: he wants to help u, just 4 that17:57
goonie7.04  Feisty17:57
goonie:)17:58
goonieAlso, whats up with fstab? the original one looked like it mounts drive as ro.17:59
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jussi01Dash_: did you get the message earlier?18:06
montesluanyone know if a dual booted (32bit & 64bit linux) machine can share the same swap partition?18:07
pteague_workmonteslu> should be able to...  afaik swap is a fs & gets cleared during reboots i think18:11
monteslucool thanks18:12
pteague_workmonteslu> i used to have redhat & mandrake sharing same swap18:12
fdovingyes, swap can be shared.18:12
monteslui've been wanting to give 64 linux a whirl as my desktop18:12
montesluas long as I can get wine, nvidia drivers, and flash to work18:13
montesluand hopefully when ut3 is released, there'll be a 64 bit build18:15
sigma_123why not use 32bit 4now?18:17
thechildboyheh. I haven't been on the irc for so long. :P18:19
monteslusigma_123, I am, but its a shame too see those bits unused on my system :)18:20
thechildboy:P18:20
maekis compiz only for gnome? or is it usable in kde?18:21
montesluit works in kde, at least for fedora18:21
ardchoille!compiz18:21
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:21
montesluim not sure how to activate it in kubuntu18:21
maekardchoille: thanks18:22
ardchoilleyw18:22
sigma_12364bit is really all hype. the performance improvement is fractional. nothing rely 2write home about18:22
DragnslcrUnless you have 4+ GB of memory, 64-bit usually isn't needed18:24
sigma_123wats so special bout more than 4gb memory?18:25
montesluDragnslcr, I have exactly 4gigs of ram18:26
Dragnslcrmonteslu- you'd get a little improvement out of 64-bit then18:26
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Alethesdoes kdesktop still have to be killed for compiz to work?18:27
monteslucan an 4-way 32bit machine address more than 4 gigs?18:27
Dragnslcrmonteslu- In theory, 32-bit systems can address 4 GB of memory, but I think in practice it tops out at 3.5 or so18:28
montesluregardless of cpu count?18:28
ardchoilleAlethes: Help with compiz in #compiz-fusion18:29
Dragnslcrmonteslu- as far as I know, yes18:29
maekwhen you use firefox in kde does it use gtk stuff when you save files and such?18:29
kyeis the only fix to showing mounted /media/ on the desktop changing the X-KDE-Kded-phase=1 to phase=0 : this fix shows both partitions of the driver on the HD however your not able to rename them?18:29
ardchoillemaek: Yes, the gtk open/save dialogs are used18:30
maekardchoille: thanks again. I find my self using gnome but im using k3b and amarok and im amazed at the quality so I figure I should give kde a go but im worried about a few things. the last time I used kopete I didnt really like it and Im wondering about gtk based thigns, like firefox, I assume its still usable.18:32
jussi01maek: of course18:32
ardchoillemaek: gnome/gtk apps run quite well in kde, and I feel kde is the best de around :)18:32
Alethesthere's kgtk to make some gtk apps use the kde file dialog18:33
Alethesand there's qtcurve for kde and gtk if you want to have the exact same look for all your apps.  (There's also gtk-qt, but it's not as good).18:33
maekAlethes: thanks. does that work with firefox? thats the only gtk app i can think ill need.18:34
Aletheskgtk works with firefox18:34
Alethesqtcurve works with any gtk and kde apps18:34
hydrogenyou could just not use firefox18:34
sourcemakeris there a reason... not to use reiserfs4?18:34
hydrogenthats usually the best reason18:34
hydrogensourcemaker: the creator murdered his wife :)18:35
maeksourcemaker: support may not last seen as how he is on trail for murder18:35
Alethes'cause it's written by a guy accused of murder so the support might run out :)18:35
sourcemakerhydrogen: great ... :-)18:35
maekhydrogen: I need firefox plugins18:35
Alethesextensions or plugins?18:36
Condoulook, when I try to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, I am following the instructions, but it won't open the Manage Repositories Window.18:36
hydrogenmaek: "need"?18:36
maekhydrogen: well maybe want ;)18:36
BluesKajthe creator will have lotsa time in jail to work on improving it18:37
Aletheshaha18:37
maekAlethes: extensions18:37
Alethesah18:37
hydrogenwhich ones?18:37
hydrogenmost browsers manage to ship better versions of the popular extensions with the browser18:37
maekok, ill give konqurer a try, I never thought to see if I could reproduce my firefox usage in it.18:38
cheguevara_lol yeah they should give Hans a PC in jain18:38
cheguevara_may be then it'll finally be up to Linuse's level :P18:38
cheguevara_*jail18:38
DarkTandoes a server need a different distro than a laptop/desktop?18:39
jussi01DarkTan: there is a specific ubuntu server install18:39
DarkTanok, maybe that was the problem i was having18:39
hydrogendobutful18:40
DarkTani use an IBM Netfinity 5600 server as a regular desktop and the DVD won't boot on the server, it boots on the laptop tho. and the server will boot my windows disks18:40
jussi01DarkTan: go try the actual server install disk?18:41
DarkTani never looked for it cause i wasn't useing it like a server, i didn't think it mattered18:41
DarkTani'm going to check that tho18:42
hydrogenthe disk shouldn't matter18:43
hydrogenthe server install doesn't install the desktop18:43
hydrogenso18:43
hydrogenyou probably don't want that18:43
DarkTanok18:43
sourcemakerdoes somebody use the 2.6.23 kernel release?18:43
hydrogenwhat type of processor is it?18:43
DarkTanintel p318:44
DarkTanit also runs 5 scsi disks, it was in RAID 0 when i got it, but not i don't use any raid, just run it like 5 IDE disks18:44
DarkTannow i*18:44
intelikeyhowto join an @#channel ?18:46
DarkTantype /join#nameofchannel18:47
intelikeyall i can seem to get is #@#blah when i try it.  bx error most likely.18:47
DarkTantype /join #nameofchannel18:47
intelikeyDarkTan not #blah  but @#blah18:47
DarkTanoh, thought it was a typo, got no clue, never seen them18:47
intelikeyk18:48
DarkTanwell, i'm going to try a different DVD drive in the beats and if that don't work, d/l the CDs18:49
DarkTancya18:49
intelikeykamui_ to root or not to root  :)18:50
pauljwheheh18:51
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hdevalencePackage xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.18:51
intelikeyroot seems to be a pretty popular user mask     ah, if it's just a mask...18:52
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intelikeyhdevalence apt-cache search xine18:52
intelikeyi don't see any meta package in dapper for xine  so it's probably not there in gutsy either18:53
uchimatahey all, is this line in my fstab correct? I want to mount an external usb drive. /dev/sdb1/mnt/share_1vfatauto noauto,rw,users 0 018:55
intelikeycomma between auto and noauto    and the two are mutually exclusive18:56
intelikeyso no.18:56
intelikey /dev/sdb1 /mnt/share_1 vfat noauto,rw,users 0 0   <<< is probably what you want.18:57
uchimataill try that18:57
uchimatathanks18:57
intelikeyand if that's on a usb bus then you probably want UUID rather than dev18:58
genii!info xine-ui18:58
ubotuxine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.5-2build1 (gutsy), package size 1514 kB, installed size 3628 kB18:58
uchimataUUID, got ya18:58
geniihmm18:59
intelikeyuchimata you can get the fs's UUID with the blkid command18:59
uchimataok cool. thanks intelikey18:59
intelikey UUID='some block id here' /mnt/share_1 vfat noauto,rw,users 0 0   <<<   using uuid19:00
intelikeyuchimata you "may" also want to set fmask and dmask in the options section   man mount   has all the details on that.19:01
intelikeynot needed in most cases.  but adds some security if that share is not in a dmz19:02
stone_kann mir irgend jemand bei der grakatreiber installation weiterhelfen?19:11
stone_ich nutze ubuntu 7.10 mit kde19:11
sydsomeone knows where i can download old version of libflashplugin.so for opera 32bit?19:16
sydplugin form official website doesn't work19:16
ardchoille!flashbug19:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashbug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:17
Pici!flashissues19:17
ubotuThe Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.19:17
ardchoillePici: Thank you19:17
PiciYeppers.19:17
BluesKajpoor youtube addicts are outta luck on gutsy19:18
BluesKajunless thier install is an older version of the plugin19:19
cheguevara_and the youporn addicts19:19
cheguevara_:P19:19
sydso what exactly i have to do19:21
cheguevara_read the thread19:21
ardchoillesyd: Read:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63639719:22
montesluthe fix is so simple, how on earth does canonical let it stay broken this long?19:24
cheguevara_monteslu: because it breaks konqueror19:25
ardchoillemonteslu: Given the number of packages vs the number of devs and the fact that we don't have all the information, it would be very hard to answer that.19:25
monteslucheguevara_, putting the lib where it needs to be breaks konqueror?19:26
cheguevara_monteslu: sorry i thought u were talking about flash :P19:26
montesluok, symlink for both, temp solution19:26
montesluyeah flash19:27
cheguevara_yeah i am saying installing the new version breaks konqueror19:27
monteslubut don't leave all the newbs without flash19:27
cheguevara_well the new xembed patches are now upstream i believe19:27
cheguevara_i heard they are quiet buggy though19:27
kyewhy does apt have me put in the kubuntu DVD when installing some apps instead of getting it from sources.list?19:29
Carnage\Prolly because your DVD is registered in sources.list...19:29
kyeOh i see..19:30
BluesKajkye , go into the sources.list and comment out # the cdrom as a repos19:30
mrdigitalcan anyone recoomend a linux alternative to www.booklog.com19:34
Aletheskwrite :D19:45
Alethesjk19:45
Alethes:)19:45
BluesKajmrdigital, http://www.visualonline.net/ ?19:46
spaci76hi@ll19:48
BluesKajmrdigital, or this  : http://www.appx.com/assets/asp/dynamic_generator.asp?pageid=36619:50
BluesKaj!hi spaci7619:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hi spaci76 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:50
BluesKaj???19:50
BluesKajthe bot is corrupted !19:51
jussi01hi | spaci7619:53
intelikeyyou left out the  pipe19:53
jussi01!hi | spaci7619:53
ubotuspaci76: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:53
noaXessdoes anybody kow if kdiff3 also compares over ftp?19:54
BluesKajI retract my statement :)19:54
intelikeyBluesKaj if it's any consolation i did the same thing the other day  ;/19:55
BluesKajintelikey, I'm real broken up about it19:56
intelikeyi was too.    know just how you feel     lol19:56
BluesKajopera isn't ready for the media plugins required , especially the windows w32codecs etc ...it's nice browser but it has too many flaws19:57
snarksterare there any gurus on that can direct me to loading mach64 module?19:58
BluesKajok  all you gurus ..line up !19:59
snarkster:)19:59
* intelikey watches to see who lines up...20:00
BluesKajsnarkster, 'scuse my ignorance , but what is mach64 ?20:00
* BluesKaj guesses it's a game 20:00
snarksterits the 3d chipset i=in my old laptop20:00
BluesKajwow, now I really feel silly :)20:01
felipe_tem algum brasileiro aqui?20:01
snarksterdont feel silly. :)20:01
jussi01!br | felipe_20:01
ubotufelipe_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:01
BluesKajsnarkster, have you searched for drivers ?20:03
BluesKajbbiab ...gotta pick up the postal mail20:03
intelikeysnarkster i don't know what module you need but sudo modprobe modulename    to test and if correct  add the module name to /etc/modules20:03
snarksterwell I have the mach64.ko on my system but when i do modprobe mach64 it comes back with driver not found20:03
intelikeyBluesKaj snail mail ?20:04
intelikeyoh.   insmod /path/to/module.ko maybe20:04
snarkster/usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.so20:04
snarksteris it .ko that I want or .so20:05
intelikeyah only used in xorg  you want that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:05
snarkster/usr/lib/directfb-0.9.25/gfxdrivers/libdirectfb_mach64.so/usr/lib/mplayer/vidix/mach64_vid.so/usr/lib/ggi/default/fbdev/fbdev_mach64.so/usr/lib/ggi/default/fbdev/fbdev_mach64.la/usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.so/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14/include/video/mach64.h20:05
intelikeyand that's the extent of my knowledge on that point.20:05
snarksterwhich one do i load?20:05
snarkstermodprobe /usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.soFATAL: Module /usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.so not found.20:06
jussi01snarkster: read what he said again..20:07
snarksterright i did that see.20:07
snarksterinsmod /usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.soinsmod: error inserting '/usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.so': -1 Operation not permitted20:07
jussi01snarkster: try with sudo20:08
snarksteroh20:08
snarksterduh20:08
jussi01:)20:08
snarkstersudo insmod /usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.soinsmod: error inserting '/usr/lib/dri/mach64_dri.so': -1 Invalid module format20:08
jussi01maybe the .ko?20:09
snarksterthere is no .ko20:09
schafhallöle. ich brauch mal entscheidungshilfe... bei über 300gb mp3s finde ich den amarok etwas langsam! wäre banshee schneller?20:09
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jussi01!de | schaf20:10
ubotuschaf: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:10
BluesKajyeah intelikey , we have community mail boxes here in Canada that have an average of about 50 boxes or home addresses per postal code20:12
BluesKajthe boxes are situated within a few mins walk for most customers20:14
intelikeyback home we used to call that a post office.20:15
intelikeyof course we also called the out house a post office...20:15
slow-motionhi20:17
jussi01!hi | slow-motion20:17
ubotuslow-motion: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:17
slow-motionhi jussi0120:18
jussi01slow-motion: can we help?20:18
intelikey!topic20:18
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic20:18
intelikey!abusethebot20:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about abusethebot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:19
BluesKajintelikey, it's merely metal stand with 50 key boxes20:19
intelikey!botabuse20:19
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.20:19
intelikeyBluesKaj yes.  just add a roof over it and we had the same thing.   normally in someones house a side room.20:19
BluesKajcool! , a place to meet and exchange gossip etc ...I miss that :)20:20
intelikeyindeed.  ;)20:21
jussi01!offtopic20:21
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!20:21
intelikeyjussi01 is that a hint ?20:22
VertexOfLIfeA quick question about the installer. If the installer repeatedly gives me /usr/bin/dpkg error code (1) should I be worried?20:22
jussi01intelikey: yes ;)20:22
BluesKajjussi01, the channel offtopic cop :)20:22
intelikeyVertexOfLIfe probably.20:22
VertexOfLIfeintelikey:  Any idea what I should do?20:23
BluesKajVertexOfLIfe, what command are using to install ?20:24
intelikeyVertexOfLIfe google dpkg error code 1   and see if it helps20:24
intelikeyBluesKaj he said "the installer" i'20:25
combiniois this possible to watch the logs so i can see what crashed my system last time?20:25
intelikeyi'm assuming that's ubiquity20:25
VertexOfLIfeintelikey: Thanks.20:25
VertexOfLIfeBluesKaj: Using the 7.10 LiveCD20:25
mdasilvacombino:   tail -f logfile.log20:25
combiniomdasilva: try that.......20:26
intelikeycombinio might even use dd to keep a running tap on it20:26
sourcemakerhow can I read the message of the last kernel panic?20:26
intelikeybut a while loop on any readin app will work20:26
combiniointelikey: what is dd ?20:26
intelikeyyou can't   if the kernel paniced it wont write anything to disk    safty feature.20:27
combiniomdasilva: no such file or dir like logfile.log ? ;>20:27
sourcemaker!dd20:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:27
intelikey!info dd20:27
ubotuPackage dd does not exist in gutsy20:27
intelikeywell it's a cli app for dirrect reading of raw devices/nodes20:28
intelikeyman dd will explain it better20:28
intelikeydd aka disk destroyer in some circles20:28
sourcemakerintelikey: do you know... were the messages of kernel panics are stored?20:28
intelikeythey arent20:29
intelikeythat's what i just said.20:29
intelikey<intelikey> you can't   if the kernel paniced it wont write anything to disk safty feature. <<< ^20:29
sourcemakerintelikey: ok....20:29
TimSHow can I set Konqueror as the default browser?20:30
combiniointelikey: ok :) read more 'bout that, thanks :)20:30
TimSFor files20:30
sourcemakerTimS: system settings/Default Application/Web Browser20:30
TimSFile browser.20:30
intelikeya kernel panic is a very serious event.   and for the kernel to write anuthing to a media in a paniced state could destroy anything from the mbr/partition table    to the nvram20:30
TimS!d3lphin20:31
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.20:31
intelikeyso it simply freezes all io  when it panics.20:31
sourcemakerintelikey: ok...20:31
sourcemakerintelikey: but so... I can't get the reason... and it is impossible for me.. to fix it...20:32
sourcemakerintelikey: without enable the debug mode...20:32
intelikeymaybe you can  but it will require you repeting the event20:32
intelikeytry just starting the boot process with    nosplash vga=0x0f0520:33
dmHello. When I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK  \n  type: v4l2  \n  name: SN9C1xx PC Camera  \n  flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". Any idea what could be the problem here?20:33
sourcemakerintelikey: ok...20:33
intelikeythe error might be printed onscreen just before the panic message.20:33
intelikeybrb20:33
hyper__chare there any known bugs with openssl?20:34
sourcemakerintelikey: yes... but it's not visible for me... when working with kde... and i do not know... how to reproduce...20:34
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intelikeysourcemaker it wasn't a boot time panic ?20:37
sourcemakerhyper__ch: http://rt.openssl.org/20:37
sourcemakerintelikey: no... while working...20:37
hyper__chsourcemaker: what is that link for?20:37
intelikeyoh Krap.   then idk either.20:37
intelikeysourcemaker run a vmware and backtrace the crash ?20:38
intelikeyi have to run for a while.   shalom20:38
slow-motion <jussi01> slow-motion: can we help? < no. no one can help me anymore20:39
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sourcemakerintelikey: now... I am using the same kernel.. without problems... everything is working... but sometimes... panic... and I do not know why...20:39
sourcemakerintelikey: ok.. i will try that20:39
kye!kubuntu off topic20:39
jussi01!ot | kye20:39
ubotukye: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!20:39
sourcemakerintelikey: I will have a look.. maybe there are known bugs...20:39
kyety20:40
unix_infidelis it possible to download all messages with thunderbird within a specified threshold with pop?20:42
unix_infidel(from gmail)20:42
BluesKajunix_infidel, I think you have to set the pop filters on gmail20:43
wincidehi all... do someone know a method to syncronize windows Mobile 6 with kubuntu ?20:45
wincidelike active sync or so20:46
jussi01 /arn plukin Please dont!20:51
kaepora-gaeborai'm trying to mount a hdd from my desktop via usb to my laptop, but i am getting this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.  does anyone know what's wrong?20:52
Blissexkaepora-gaebora: probably the relevant mount line has 'uid=1000' and that does not exist20:53
kaepora-gaeboraok. what should i do? the hdd was on my windows desktop which crashed. could that be a problem?20:54
TuxManMy daily visit to #kubuntu.20:55
TuxMan :-P20:55
BluesKajkaepora-gaebora, do you have a router ?20:56
kaepora-gaeborayes20:57
BluesKajkaepora-gaebora, you might be better off running samba with the computers linking thru the router20:57
Quelhuhu hat jemand etwas zeit mir bei meinem ubuntu zu helfen20:58
Tm_T!de | Quel20:58
ubotuQuel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:58
Quel das ist total langsam geworde, seitdem es so ein großes update gemacht hat20:59
Queloh20:59
Quelthis is an english one sorry ^^20:59
jussi01:)20:59
Quelthanks tm_T :)20:59
Tm_Tyou know, there's whole world outside deutchland ;) Quel20:59
kaepora-gaeborayeah, but my desktop is broken.  I think it's a motherboard problem.20:59
Quelhihi20:59
Queli like the world :D20:59
BluesKajsounds like his english is ok20:59
Quelhehe, i hope so :)21:00
Tm_TBluesKaj: agreed there :)21:00
Tm_TBluesKaj: and hello21:00
BluesKajhi Tm_T21:00
Quelmy ubuntu is damed slow since an update (download about 800MB I think)21:00
Quelhe needs about 7 minutes to boot21:00
Flare183!language | Quel21:00
ubotuQuel: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:00
BlissexQuel: it may still be unpacking the update...21:01
Quelsorry *g*21:01
BlissexQuel: ah but not on boot.21:01
DelvienFlare183 oh calm down, he didnt even spell it right...21:01
Flare183Delvien: wow, still CoC21:01
Quelthe update is complete, he hangs on while booting with 3 lines21:01
BlissexQuel: so tell the lines.21:01
Quelshall i post them here?21:01
DelvienFlare183 damned isnt nec a curse word21:02
Tm_TFlare183: yup, just remember to be humane :)21:02
Quelkinit: name_to_dev_t(/Dev/disk/by-uuid/89da7f8d-3cf8-4974-92b1-d9cc091a806e) = sda3(8,3)21:02
Quelkinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/89da7f8d-3cf8-4974-92b1-d9cc091a806e21:02
Quelkinit: no resume image, doing normal boot...21:02
Flare183!paste21:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:02
Tm_TDelvien: no need to argue here :)21:02
Queltoo late :D21:02
Flare183Tm_T: yeah21:02
BluesKajkaepora-gaebora, ok , point taken ...bummer , you may want to try installing ntfs-config, it will give you read/write permission to the windows drive21:02
Tm_TQuel: more than 2 lines usually goes to pastebin, that threeliner is ok to me :)21:03
DelvienTm_T true, i just dont like it when people get all uppity about that... i can see if he sad another word.. but still. lol21:03
kaepora-gaeboraalright i'll try that21:03
Tm_TDelvien: I know :)21:03
Quelroger that :)21:03
Queldo you know what could be wrong while seeing my "error"? I need to push a key to continue there21:04
Quelhere is my threeliner again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49735/21:04
DelvienQuel whats wrong with that?21:05
Quelif i push ALT + F1 i see that on my screen and he stopps booting... starting again afther pushing a key there21:05
Delviendont press alt F1 then21:07
Delvien:P21:07
Quelthan he stoppes booting and i can shut down... or just wait for my death21:08
Quelthere isnt a nice choise (dont know how to spell that)21:08
BluesKajchoice21:08
Quelthanks :)21:08
Queloh i found  initrd.img and vmlinux in \.. maybe i just should delete this files..? :D21:09
ardchoilleQuel: That would not be a good thing to do :)21:10
Quellets try - better than nothing - i hope so :D21:11
XcellWhats the command for a quick shut down?21:11
Quelshutdown -h now21:11
ardchoilleXcell: sudo shutdown -h now21:12
Xcellk..thx21:12
Queloh yes, sudo21:12
Xcellthx21:12
Xcellsudo shutdown -h now21:12
Quelhmm abter deleting this files my booting is fast again :D21:13
Quel*after21:13
Quelthats fun21:14
ardchoilleQuel: Wow, I remember deleting those files a couple years ago and found the system wouldn't boot at all.21:14
xbehave_from a legal point of view if somebodys using 64bit web they are asking to be cracked right?21:16
Quelardchoille: hehe.. you see? Technology is running :)21:16
Quelit was a link to this files :D21:16
Quelhmm, it always appeares after booting with an LCD Projector21:17
Queldoes someone know if there's a way to activate VGA Output (for LCD projector) without rebooting?21:18
jussi01!away > plukin21:19
BluesKajxbehave_, from a legal point of view ?21:22
hydrogenfrom a technical point of view.. wtf is a 64bit web?21:25
hydrogenQuel: I think xorg7.3 finally has support for output device hotplugging21:25
xbehave_*wep21:25
TuxManhow come superkaramba keeps crashing?_?21:26
BluesKajxbehave_, wpa is more secure21:26
jonathon_can anyone help me with loading WoW on wine21:27
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hydrogen!wow | jonathon_21:27
ubotujonathon_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php21:27
jonathon_world of warcraft21:27
jonathon_i try to open WoW launcher with Wine Windows EMulator, it shows in the tray that Wine is loading but stops after a few seconds21:28
hydrogendid you look at those links?21:30
hydrogentheres a whole ubuntu guide to wow21:30
jonathon_it redirects me to aq list of linux games, wow isnt listed21:30
jonathon_that link does21:30
hydrogendood21:31
hydrogenI just searched21:31
hydrogenin found world of warcraft on that page21:31
hydrogenin two seconds21:31
jonathon_got it21:31
senorpedrohi21:33
jonathon_problem configuring wine...its "unable to define devicename of 'C:' targetpath of '/'" and so on for D,E,and H    can anyone tell if im doing something wrong21:40
TuxManOo! Oo! Pick me!21:42
TuxMantry setting C: to /home/*whateveryourusernameis*/wineC21:43
TuxManand same, wineD, wineE, wineH21:43
wesleySweex LW052, works that wlan without problems21:44
TuxManIt's just a guess, but I have some experience with wine. like me, you probly miss all the commercial products from Windows/Mac21:44
mot_hmm21:45
mot_how do i restart the xine service?21:45
TuxMankillall xine21:46
Tm_Tthere is no xine service?21:46
mot_without having to reboot just to get onboard sound to work.21:46
TuxManmot_: killall xine21:46
mot_well, amarok uses the xine plugin to process audio with my onboard sound chipset21:46
mot_right. how do i *restart* it?21:46
Tm_Tmot_: yes, but it's not service :-P21:46
mot_says no process killed21:46
TuxManmot_:killall arts21:46
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TuxManarts is sound controller in everything for Kubuntu21:47
mot_TuxMan, nogo.21:47
mot_ahh artsd21:47
TuxManyes. artsd will auto restart from initd21:47
mot_how do i manually retstart it?21:47
mot_i'm not seeing an entry in /etc/init.d21:48
Tm_Tmot_: it's not systemwide service21:48
hyper_chI got a strange problem: I rebooted my computer because of some weird behaviour, then I just got the Ubuntu default background but no loging window or so... and the keyboard didn't do anyhting and nothing else was loaded... I thought maybe some glitch or something, tried again -> same result... ok, I logged then into recovery mode and installed KDE through kubuntu-desktop... restarted again, in KDM I saw the login manager, I could select 21:48
mot_ahh there we go21:49
mot_thanks.21:49
TuxManmot_: Happy to help.21:49
TuxManmot_: In the future, K Menu -> System Administration -> System Services21:51
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TuxManMy amarok works perfectly. listening to All American Rejects: Move Along CD in background.21:56
sourcemakeris there a difference between kerry and strigi or using both the same engine?22:01
ubuntu_h22:04
Aletheskerry uses the beagle engine22:04
sourcemakerAlethes: ok... i have found...22:05
hyper_chI got a strange problem: I rebooted my computer because of some weird behaviour, then I just got the Ubuntu default background but no loging window or so... and the keyboard didn't do anyhting and nothing else was loaded... I thought maybe some glitch or something, tried again -> same result... ok, I logged then into recovery mode and installed KDE through kubuntu-desktop... restarted again, in KDM I saw the login manager, I could select 22:05
sourcemakerAlethes: I have installed beagle for feisty... now I am running on gusty... so I can purge beagle?22:06
sourcemakerAlethes: Gusty is using strigi? Right?22:06
Alethessourcemaker: no idea, honestly...I don't use either22:06
Alethes:)22:06
Alethesyeah I believe so22:06
Alethesgo to strigi:/ in konqueror22:07
jonathon_I cant get winecfg configured, it wont configure the drives, how do i do it22:07
markithi, I've 8.04 and tried to install kde4, that partially succeeded, but some packages are not installed and trying to install kde4libs-bin would remove almost all the kde4 I've installed so far.. any clue?22:07
jonathon_hi everyone, can anyone help me with this...winecfg wont accept any of the drive mapping entries i give the drives, says its unable to define them22:11
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snarksterany suggestions on getting dvds to play. I get "this player can not play this video"22:12
ardchoille!dvd | snarkster22:13
ubotusnarkster: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs22:13
edward__hello everyone, I'm having trouble loading programs because it says klauncher is having problems with DCOP22:13
jonathon_hey everyone, can anyone help me with this...winecfg wont accept any of the drive mapping entries i give the drives, says its unable to define them22:14
snarksterok i have libdvdcss2 installed22:14
BluesKaj!source-o-matic22:15
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic22:15
snarkstersorry didnt mean to part22:16
snarkster!dvd22:18
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs22:18
hdevalence!x1122:21
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto22:21
hdevalence!xforward22:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xforward - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:21
hdevalenceanybody know how to do X forwarding?22:21
snarksterits really wierd KDE4 RC2 can play DVDs and ISOs of DVDs great, downgrade to KDE3 and it goes back to not playing again22:22
ardchoillehdevalence: ssh -X  <-- enables X11 forwarding22:22
hdevalenceardchoille: I get an error about22:24
hdevalenceX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.22:24
hdevalencexinit:  Server error.22:24
ardchoillehdevalence: I've never seen that error :(22:25
qolo!xwm22:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:26
sourcemakerCan someone explain me the output of "free"... ?22:36
Tm_Tsourcemaker: free -m22:36
Tm_Tsourcemaker: to see them in MB22:36
sourcemakerTm_T: yes... I know... but what is the diff between shared and buffered?22:37
Tm_Thyper_ch: no roots ;)22:37
Tm_Tsourcemaker: I'm coming in to it :)22:37
hyper_chTm_T: ?22:37
Tm_Thyper_ch: you shouldn't irc as root22:37
hyper_chTm_T: well, if you could help me get my user back running I'd be glad not to run as root22:37
Tm_Thyper_ch: sure22:38
hyper_chTm_T: but sofar I did not get any replies in here22:38
hyper_chTm_T: and the ones on the forums don't help22:38
hdevalenceoh snap22:38
hyper_chTm_T: in case you're interested in a mysterious problem:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65148822:39
Tm_Tsourcemaker: it tells: mem: your total mem, used mem, free mem, shared (as shared between apps perhaps?) buffer is just buffer as cache too22:41
hyper_chTm_T: any clue why I can't use my user anymore?22:41
Tm_Tsourcemaker: -/+ line tells mem usage without buffers& cache and how much those uses alone22:42
sourcemakerTm_T: ok... thx22:42
Tm_Tsourcemaker: if you need further explanation, just ask and someone will try to tell22:43
Tm_Thyper_ch: I'll look in to it22:43
hyper_chTm_T: thx... btw, why can't I start users-admin - when logged in as root22:43
Tm_Thyper_ch: no idea22:44
Tm_TI never run X as root22:44
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Tm_Ts/X/KDE22:44
hyper_chou are not allowed to access the system configuration22:44
Tm_TI am22:44
Tm_Tvery allowed22:44
Tm_Tkdesudo <322:44
hyper_chwhen I change to my user, I get another error message22:45
Tm_Thyper_ch: anyway, have you tried to add another user?22:45
hyper_chXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server22:45
hyper_chXlib: No protocol specified22:45
hyper_chTm_T: how?22:45
hyper_chTm_T: through the gui I can't - obviously22:45
hyper_chthrought the shell I have never tried22:45
Tm_Thyper_ch: on konsole: adduser hyper222:45
hyper_chTm_T: but how to select him for login?22:46
Tm_Thyper_ch: how did you "login" now?22:46
hyper_chrecovery mode22:46
hyper_chstartx22:46
Tm_Tmmmmgh22:46
hyper_chTm_T: at the login screen the keyboard locks up22:47
Tm_Thyper_ch: interesting, very22:47
hyper_chTm_T: so quite difficult to login - even as other user22:47
Tm_Thyper_ch: does you have livecd at hand?22:47
hyper_chnope, using alternate....22:47
sourcemakerTm_T: There is a answer: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management22:47
hyper_chbut could download it22:47
Tm_Tsourcemaker: aye22:47
hyper_chTm_T: why livecd? what would that help?22:48
Tm_Thyper_ch: okie, I mean, its great for rescuing: when you have one, hit the problem, then reboot with livecd and check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log from your HD etc22:49
hyper_chTm_T: interesting was also, when I was in the recovery shell as root22:49
Tm_Tyes?22:49
hyper_chTm_T: and changed to "hyper", I couldn't startx22:49
Tm_Taye22:49
Tm_Twhat about "startkde" ?22:50
hyper_chTm_T: it said something regarding not having permissions for creating .Xauthority.PID in the /home/hyper older22:50
hyper_chTm_T: didn't try...22:50
Tm_Thyper_ch: awwww22:50
hyper_chI will do so now22:50
hyper_chawww?22:50
Tm_Thyper_ch: stop22:50
Tm_Thyper_ch: you have messed your homedir atleast =)22:50
hyper_chTm_T: I didn't do anything there22:50
hyper_chI had problems with konqueror and kontact22:51
Tm_Thyper_ch: this is one reason you shouldn't run KDE or any as root :-P22:51
hyper_chTm_T: and rebooted and that's when the trouble started22:51
Tm_Thyper_ch: anyway22:51
Tm_Tyes22:51
hyper_chTm_T: suggestions?22:51
Tm_Thyper_ch: do this as root: chown hyper:hyper -R /home/hyper/22:52
hyper_chTm_T: done, but checked the ownership before and didn't notice anything unusual22:52
hyper_chshall I retry now?22:53
Tm_Thyper_ch: yes, startkde22:53
hyper_chbrb22:53
hyper_chTm_T: hmmm, didn't work...22:56
hyper_chTm_T: however startx said I didn't have the authority to run x server22:56
jake_I have a Microsoft Optical Mouse 2.0. Is there any way to get the side scroll feature working?22:57
jake_as in, the scroll wheel tilts left and right22:57
sasha__when i login with a different user account i have no sound, alsamixer says snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device22:58
sam1does somebody own a lenovo 3000 n100?23:00
hyper_chTm_T: hmmm :(23:04
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SirChasmhello all, i'm just about to reinstall kubuntu, and I was wondering if there's a way to remove some unnecessary packages that get added during installation.23:06
SirChasmsort of like doing a "lite" install23:07
hyper_chTm_T: downloading the desktop cd23:07
hdevalenceSirChasm: which packages?23:07
dorkfacehmm...I want to transfer files from my non-internet connected windows desktop to my kubuntu laptop so I can format it.  As of now, my only means of doing so is a crossover cable.  Are there any simple protocols that could do the job?23:07
hdevalencesmb?23:08
SirChasmumm, well... useless ones. Like Kmix and Knetwork manager is useful, but then a lot of the other packages like VitualKeyboard and ScreenMagnifier are completely useless to me23:09
SirChasmare*23:09
SirChasmis there a way of installing only the barebone OS?23:09
dorkfacehdevalence: Not familiar with that, but I'll see what I can read up on it.  Thanks!23:09
SirChasmwithout all the extra crap?23:09
SirChasmI'll add that myself.23:09
hdevalenceSirChasm: ie doing a commandline install and then installing X, KDE, etc?23:10
BluesKajdorkface, smb is short for samba, a network interface client23:10
hdevalence!samba23:10
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hyper_chTm_T: what shall I do with the livecd?23:11
dorkfacehehe, I guess the bot has nothing on it :)23:11
hdevalence!smb23:11
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.23:11
SirChasmhdevalence: well not that precise23:11
BluesKajswat is pretty daunting for newbs23:11
dorkfacehmm...23:12
Exploithi there, how to change the ownership from root to me in kubuntu?23:12
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dorkfaceYeah, all I want is to transfer 725 megs of stuff, and I don't have a cd-r on the machine23:12
SirChasmis there a middle ground between installing everything, and pretty much building the OS yourself?23:12
hdevalencejust really slow23:14
BluesKajdorkface, is your crossover cable connected ?23:14
dorkfacenot as of this moment, but I could in a second23:15
dorkfaceit's right next to me23:15
BluesKajdorkface, try the connection, then open System Menu/Storage Media23:17
dorkfaceBluesKaj: on it23:18
sam1@Exploit Want to change the ownership of a file?23:20
dorkfaceBluesKaj: Can't seem to find the system menu, there is no "Storage Media" option in the kicker menu23:20
BluesKajdorkface, it's in dolphin , or the icon that has a screen and computerbox beside it, in the panel23:21
dorkfaceoh, ok23:22
dorkfaceBluesKaj: done and done23:22
BluesKajwhat does the file show ?23:23
dorkfacethere are four drives, which I assume are my partitions23:23
BluesKajdorkface, you may have to relogin or reboot23:24
dorkfaceBluesKaj: ok23:24
dorkfacebrb23:24
BluesKajthen try again23:24
|dorkface|hmm...still have the 4 hard drives23:29
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BluesKajdorkface, ok, are you on gutsy ?23:30
dorkfaceI have a link light on the ethernet ports23:30
dorkfaceyeah23:30
Xcellwhen my kubuntu starts, it starts in text and says this                                                               {ww} radeon: no matching dence section for instance [bud id  pci:1:0:1] found,  fatal IO error 10423:30
BluesKajahh good23:30
Xcellsry23:30
BluesKajdorkface, i wonder if installing ntfs-config will help , it provides read/write permissions for ntfs drives23:31
dorkfaceBluesKaj: ah, installing now23:32
Xcellwhat would be a solution to repair that?23:33
dorkfaceBluesKaj: Should I restart again?23:33
BluesKajit'll be in kmenu ' system"23:33
BluesKajno23:33
BluesKajno point23:33
dorkfaceah, ok23:33
MagicDuckhi all, does anybody know why installing kate-plugins does not do anything? I can't see them when I start kate.23:34
sistemahola a todos23:34
BluesKajdorkface, run ntfs-config23:34
sistemaalguien podria ayudarme23:34
ardchoille!es | sistema23:34
ubotusistema: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:34
sistemaok23:35
BluesKajkate-plugins ?23:35
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sistemathanks23:35
MagicDuckyeah23:35
BluesKaj!kate23:35
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code23:35
dorkfaceBluesKaj: I allowed write support for external device (the other option was grayed out), and I still see 4 hard drives23:36
MagicDuckthe plugins are things like a tab bar, a python browser, etc23:36
yssnnn??23:37
MagicDuckwhen I go to /usr/share/apps/kate/plugins, I can see them there and they all contain a ui.rc file23:37
BluesKajdorkface, check system settings/advanced/disk&filesystems ...maybe it's listed there23:37
sigraLinux is new world order and De Facto of future desktop computers!23:38
dorkfaceBluesKaj: I still only see local items on it, nothing with ntfs on it23:39
* BluesKaj looks for more knowledgeable heavy hitters.... Tm_T ? ..we need some more expertise here 23:40
dorkfacehehe v(-_-)v23:41
DarkTanok, finally got kubuntu installed on my laptop23:42
DarkTanbut i can't mount the the other partitions on my HDD, i had two under WinXP and now three under linix23:42
dorkfaceI'll see if #ubuntu has more suggestions.  But thanks for the help so far :D23:42
BluesKajdorkface, I haven't had to deal with this situation before , usually it's ppl trying to configure their network23:42
dorkfacehehe23:42
BluesKaj!crossover23:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:43
dorkfaceI do appreciate it, though23:43
nadohi guys23:43
firecrotchhi nado23:43
MagicDuckDarkTan, do you get an error message23:43
DarkTanyeah, say it can't mount the drive and it missing some file23:44
MagicDuckedit /etc/fstab and add the options user,rw to those mountpoints23:44
nadoi'd like to install an older kde version on my laptop, the current one is takin pretty much everything of the 128mb ram it's got ;) any idea where i could get something with less eye-candy etc? i need it just to surf the net23:45
giuseppehi, why when I type amule on the shell appears:23:45
giuseppeInitialising aMule23:45
giuseppeChecking if there is an instance already running...23:45
giuseppeNo other instances are running.23:45
giuseppe        aMule Version: aMule 2.1.3 using wxGTK2 v2.8.4 (Unicoded)23:45
giuseppeTerminated after throwing an instance of 'CInvalidStateEx'23:45
giuseppe        what(): CRunTimeException::CInvalidStateException: CFile: Cannot read from closed file.23:45
giuseppe        backtrace:23:45
giuseppe[2] wxThreadHelperThread::~wxThreadHelperThread() in amule [0x808500d]23:45
giuseppe[3] wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**) in /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0[0xb75cc29d]23:45
giuseppe[4] wxEntry(int&, char**) in /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0[0xb75cc307]23:45
giuseppe[5] CryptoPP::IteratedHash<unsigned int, CryptoPP::EnumToType<CryptoPP::ByteOrder, 0>, 64u, CryptoPP::HashTransformation>::~IteratedHash() in amule [0x812d010]23:45
giuseppe[6] __libc_start_main in /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb72ec050]23:45
giuseppe[7] wxNotebook::SetPadding(wxSize const&) in amule[0x807ee51]23:45
giuseppeAborted (core dumped)23:45
adz21c!pastbin23:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:45
BluesKaj!pasetbin | giuseppe23:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:46
adz21c!pastebin | giuseppe23:46
ubotugiuseppe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:46
BluesKaj!pastebin | giuseppe23:46
DarkTan@ MagicDuck, how do i edit that file?23:47
giuseppeplease, see@ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49743/23:47
nadoanybody?23:47
MagicDuckopen a terminal23:47
MagicDuckor better, start kate or kwrite23:47
MagicDuckdid you find it23:47
DarkTanok, i have no idea, this is actually the first time i've run linux23:47
adz21cnado: does it need to be kde? could it not be a lighter environment?23:47
MagicDuckok23:47
MagicDuckyou need a text editor23:47
DarkTani have to write this stuff down, i'm dual booting with XP23:48
BluesKajMagicDuck, got experince with crossover computer to computer connections ?23:48
DarkTanok23:48
MagicDucknope, sorry23:48
nadoadz21c: could be everything that supports firefox ;)23:48
giuseppeBluesKaj: did u see it @ paste ubuntu?23:48
MagicDuckDarkTan: search in the kde menu, there should be an editor, it's called kate or kwrite23:48
DarkTanok23:49
adz21cnado: i don;t really look into other environments apart from KDE and Gnome myself but i think xfce is supposed to be more lightweight, see xubuntu i think23:49
BluesKajgiuseppe, use the gui version it's much easier23:49
nadoadz21c: thanks, will try that23:49
adz21cnado: np23:49
MagicDuckdid you find it23:50
giuseppewell, if I try to use the gui version, no answer :(23:50
DarkTani'm going to re-boot and try it23:51
BluesKajgiuseppe, sorry , i have no idea :(23:51
MagicDuckyou are in windows now?23:51
DarkTanyes23:51
giuseppeBluesKaj: ok, thanks a lot anyway :-)23:51
MagicDuckoh ok23:51
BluesKajBBL...tvtime with wifey23:51
DarkTanalso, might i obtain a driver for my pos 2wire wireless pcmcia card?23:51
DarkTanhow might*23:51
giuseppeubotu: you have any idea?23:52
MagicDucksorry for question repeat, does anybody know why installing kate-plugins donesn't add plugins to kate?23:52
MagicDuckDarkTan: hmm, never had wireless myself23:53
DarkTanwell my wired nic works, just not thr wireless card23:54
=== xtech is now known as xtech_
xtech__hello23:55
DarkTanwell i'm gonna try the drive mountsing, brb23:56
xtech_(n=xtech@remover.exomail.com.ar).23:57
yotuxis there a way that I can install 32bit apps in 64bit kubuntu?23:57

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