[01:20] <baghyay> hi every one
[01:21] <baghyay> i have install upgrade my gusty to hardy but i havn't the new theme
[01:22] <DanaG> That 'new theme' is only a concept, actually.
[01:22] <DanaG> If it's the one I'm thinking of.
[01:23] <baghyay> i think that too
[01:23] <baghyay> tank u man
[01:23] <baghyay> i feel hardy is faster
[01:23] <DanaG> I've had the opposite issue, actually.
[01:24] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/178807
[01:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178807 in linux "Severe sluggishness under 'nice' load in 2.6.24 kernels" [Undecided,New]
[01:25] <Artimus> I wish someone would fix the KDE4 packages...  Broken dependencies...  I want KDE4 :P
[01:25] <bardyr> w00t suspending works completely and perfect in hardy :D
[01:26] <tritium> bardyr: *for you*
[01:26] <bardyr> yep
[01:26] <tritium> (and your hardware -- not so for everyone)
[01:26] <bardyr> ofc i also ment for me
[01:27] <bardyr> now i just need to do some ACPI hackering to get my hardware to work better for me so my laptop can change my screen brightness :)
[01:27] <tritium> Works for my hardware too, fortunately.
[01:29] <DanaG> Brightness is also a PITA.
[01:30] <DanaG> s/also/commonly/
[01:30] <bardyr> PITA?
[01:30] <DanaG> Pain In The ...
[01:30] <bardyr> yea
[01:42] <tumbleweed__> DanaG : same
[01:42] <tumbleweed__> also
[01:42] <tumbleweed__> s/foo/bar
[01:42] <tumbleweed__> is that vim search and replace syntax?
[01:42] <DanaG> Yeah.
[01:42] <DanaG> Handy in IRC.
[01:42]  * tumbleweed__ scores
[01:42]  * tumbleweed__ has never used vim, either
[01:43] <tumbleweed__> I just figured it's wonky like that ;/
[01:44] <DanaG> I don't use vim either.
[01:44] <DanaG> I just use 'gedit' with extra plugins.
[01:47] <tumbleweed__> same
[01:47] <tumbleweed__> or mousepad
[01:47] <tumbleweed__> depending on my mood
[02:38] <Shri> I need help in getting BCM94311 wireless card to work on 2.6.24-2 generic with hardy 64bit to work
[02:39] <Shri> can any body help me please
[02:39] <Shri> I was just at the ubuntu channel and they directed me here...
[02:41] <cafuego> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649038
[02:55] <jimmygoon> How's the artwork coming? and "is hardy going to break for me"
[02:56] <ader10> Why not release a version of ubuntu without the .04 or .10 etc? It would look nicer to the end-user without all the excess numbers.
[02:57] <jimmygoon> ader10, because it makes sense... how about "windows vista home/home oem/home retail/pro/ultimate" etc
[02:58] <jimmygoon> ader10, call it "ubuntu hardy" or "Hardy Heron" if you want an easier reference.. just like "Vista" rather than Windows 8 or ntkernel version whatever
[02:58] <crdlb> that was a drive-by suggestion :p
[02:59] <jimmygoon> oh, he left, haha
[03:26] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/178807
[03:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178807 in linux "Severe sluggishness under 'nice' load in 2.6.24 kernels (dup-of: 177713)" [Medium,Invalid]
[03:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177713 in linux "2.6.24-2: Regression with idle cpu cycle handling" [Medium,Confirmed]
[03:26] <DanaG> Should I repost my comments from my bug report into the one it's a duplicate of?
[05:25] <arooni________> please tell me they're making heron better for bluetooth
[05:25] <arooni________> and a2dp avrcp
[05:25] <arooni________> cuz gutsy?  not so much
[05:27] <tumbleweed__> yes
[05:27] <tumbleweed__> they are
[05:28] <Amaranth> Err, I'm not aware of anything specific
[05:29] <tumbleweed__> the bluetooth breakage was just an accidental omission of a file
[05:31] <Amaranth> bluetooth works just fine here
[06:19] <DanaG> I just had my second bit of major breakage with 2.6.24 kernel.
[06:19] <DanaG> dhcdbd wasn't running, so NetworkManager wouldn't work.
[06:20] <DanaG> I could call dhclient on the wired interface manually and get an IP, but the route would not show up.
[06:21] <DanaG> 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1' returned "No such device", which is really a bad description, despite being technically correct.
[06:32] <DanaG> My bug here was marked a duplicate of another bug; should I re-post my comments in the latter bug?
[06:32] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/178807
[06:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 178807 in linux "Severe sluggishness under 'nice' load in 2.6.24 kernels (dup-of: 177713)" [Medium,Invalid]
[06:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 177713 in linux "2.6.24-2: Regression with idle cpu cycle handling" [Medium,Confirmed]
[06:34] <Hobbsee> DanaG: probably a good idea
[06:35] <Hobbsee> if they'r enew
[06:39] <DanaG> I think the only Vista feature I've seen that I do miss when in Ubuntu is the amazing 'speaker fill' effect they have.
[06:40] <DanaG> It somehow separates main voices from accompaniment, to expand stereo music to surround without sounding odd or 'cheesy' or too surroundey.
[06:54] <pwnguin> DanaG: it probably seperates left and right channels completely, instead of mixing them
[06:55] <pwnguin> since the main voice is on both left and right, you'd stronger "stereo seperation"
[07:03] <DanaG> It seems to be more than just simple stereo separation to me.
[07:03] <DanaG> But I'm not entirely sure.
[11:01] <hit> !sensors-conf-convert
[11:19] <hit> any ideas why i'm taken to login screen when trying to view screensavers?
[11:28] <fenrig> hi
[11:28] <rsk> hi
[11:28] <fenrig> wel i have some hardy problems
[11:29] <fenrig> my laptop doesn't find the screen
[11:29] <rsk> oh noes :(
[11:29] <fenrig> i've got a nvidia gpu
[11:29] <fenrig> and the nv driver
[11:29] <fenrig> has some problems with this gpu
[11:30] <fenrig> so okay i force it to use vesa
[11:30] <fenrig> xforcevesa (or something like that)
[11:30] <fenrig> but i think it still loads the nv driver
[11:30] <fenrig> so i wanted to ask
[11:30] <fenrig> (i'm talking about the live cd)
[11:31] <fenrig> how can i configure x in using vesa
[11:31] <rsk> modify xorg.conf
[11:31] <fenrig> yeah well
[11:31] <rsk> and restart gdm
[11:31] <fenrig> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <rsk> ye
[11:31] <fenrig> but i don't get a terminal in the live cd :S
[11:32] <rsk> try a tty
[11:32] <fenrig> i never used a tty
[11:32] <fenrig> is it
[11:32] <fenrig> ctrl+alt+ f3???
[11:32] <rsk> ye or f1 or f2
[11:32] <rsk> or any other f
[11:32] <fenrig> okay
[11:33] <fenrig> the laptop is booting:)
[11:33] <fenrig> another question does the kernel runs 4k stacks or 8k?
[11:33] <rsk> dont know
[11:34] <fenrig> i'll reform my question
[11:34] <fenrig> can i use ndiswrapper???
[11:34] <fenrig> fully
[11:35] <rsk> should work
[11:35] <fenrig> thx
[11:35] <rsk> but cause it's so early in development libs may be broken
[11:35] <fenrig> its commercia
[11:35] <fenrig> l
[11:35] <fenrig> oh no sorry
[11:35] <fenrig> :)
[11:36] <fenrig> how can i find if those libs are broken?
[11:36] <rsk> you will notice :)
[11:37] <fenrig> what command can i use to start gdm?
[11:37] <rsk> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:38] <fenrig> i get a fail
[11:39] <rsk> what fail
[11:39] <rsk> yberfail?
[11:39] <fenrig> * Starting GNOME Display Manager
[11:39] <fenrig> fail
[11:39] <fenrig> i think its because X isn't started
[11:39] <rsk> that will start x also
[11:40] <fenrig> well it didn't start X
[11:40] <fenrig> it didn't tried to start X :s
[11:40] <rsk> ok so x is broken in alpha 2
[11:40] <rsk> for you
[11:40] <rsk> :F
[11:40] <fenrig> no X isn't broke
[11:40] <fenrig> i mean at bootup it worked fine
[11:41] <fenrig> X is working
[11:41] <fenrig> i typed X in the terminal
[11:42] <fenrig> and i got a mouse and everything
[11:42] <fenrig> so X works
[11:42] <fenrig> but ur command doesnt
[11:42] <rsk> ok
[11:42] <fenrig> could i also
[11:43] <fenrig> start X in tty 2
[11:43] <fenrig> and then give that command of gdm in the third tty???
[11:46] <fenrig> ive done it
[11:47] <fenrig> i did find a sort of bug
[11:47] <fenrig> so ive started X in tty2
[11:47] <fenrig> and then gave the gdm command in tty3
[11:48] <fenrig> and wel gdm asked my if i wanted to open gdm on another tty
[11:48] <fenrig> and will i said yes
[11:48] <fenrig> and now i'm logged in
[11:49] <fenrig> found another bug
[11:50] <fenrig> wanna know??
[11:50] <rsk> sure
[11:51] <fenrig> well ubiquety
[11:51] <fenrig> is too big for vesa resolution
[11:53] <fenrig> big bug if u ask me
[11:54] <rsk> yea
[11:54] <fenrig> its installing :D
[11:56] <fenrig> thx for your help ;)
[11:56] <fenrig> when the laptop has installed ubuntu and rebooted
[11:56] <fenrig> i'll join u on irc with the laptop ;)
[11:57] <rsk> roger
[13:25] <fenrig> hi
[13:25] <fenrig> ive got a problem with hardy
[13:25] <fenrig> :'(
[13:25] <fenrig> i cant
[13:25] <fenrig> seem to configure the network-admin thing
[13:25] <fenrig> i mean it starts up
[13:26] <fenrig> asks my sudo password
[13:26] <fenrig> and then when i gave that password
[13:26] <fenrig> it can't be configured
[13:26] <fenrig> i cant add or configure any hardware interface
[13:32] <fenrig> hello?
[13:33] <fenrig> hllo?????
[13:33] <rsk> :OOOO
[13:33] <fenrig> rsk
[13:33] <fenrig> :D
[13:33] <fenrig> can u help me?
[13:33] <rsk> dont know about that sorry
[13:34] <Pici> fenrig: I believe its a known bug.
[13:34] <fenrig> it is?
[13:35] <fenrig> well is there a workaround?
[13:35] <Pici> fenrig: configure your network adapters manually using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:35] <fenrig> can u help me doing this
[13:35] <fenrig> cause i never done it like that
[13:35] <fenrig> but i'm open for learning
[13:36] <fenrig> can i past 2 rules??
[13:36] <fenrig> 2lines?
[13:37] <Pici> Sure.
[13:37] <fenrig> auto lo
[13:37] <fenrig> iface lo inet loopback
[13:37] <fenrig> that is what  /etc/network/interfaces contains
[13:38] <fenrig> i made a ndis wireless driver
[13:38] <Pici> fenrig: Does that even show up in iwconfig?
[13:39] <fenrig> no it doesnt
[13:40] <fenrig> i hate iwconfig
[13:40] <fenrig> he's nog my best friend
[13:41] <Pici> I can't help you if its not showing up there at least, sorry.
[13:42] <Pici> Er, I mean that I dont know anything about ndis stuff, sorry.
[13:43] <Essope> fenrig: what does ndiswrapper -l give?
[13:44] <fenrig> net5211 : driver installed
[13:44] <fenrig> 	device (168C:001C) present (alternate driver: ath_pci)
[13:44] <fenrig> ndis gtk is even saying it exists
[13:44] <Essope> is the card flashing?
[13:47] <fenrig> card flashing?
[13:47] <fenrig> explain yourself please
[13:49] <fenrig> :S
[13:49] <fenrig> im kinda confused
[13:52] <Pici> I think hes asking if the lights on the wifi card are blinking
[13:53] <fenrig> no
[13:53] <fenrig> but i have a acer aspire laptop
[13:54] <fenrig> :s
[13:54] <fenrig> some people made it work
[13:54] <fenrig> but i cant seem to make it work ;s
[13:55] <fenrig> but its a ar5006eg
[13:55] <fenrig> chipset wifi card
[13:55] <Pici> fenrig: Did it work on Gutsy?
[13:56] <fenrig> i never ran gutsy on it
[13:56] <fenrig> because of screen problems
[13:57] <fenrig> :(
[13:57] <fenrig> i'm getting crazy
[13:57] <fenrig> fedora didn't work with it
[13:57] <fenrig> and nsidwrapper
[13:57] <fenrig> didn't work because of its kernel
[13:57] <fenrig> now this doesnt work
[13:57] <fenrig> :s
[13:58] <Pici> This is an alpha, you realize.  see /topic
[14:01] <Essope> fenrig: did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[14:02] <fenrig> yeah i didµ
[14:02] <fenrig> but where can i configure the wifi alias for the dc
[14:02] <fenrig> dc=card
[14:03] <fenrig> 'module configuration already contains alias directive' there is something wrong when i do "sudo ndiswrapper -m"
[14:03] <fenrig> :s
[14:05] <Essope> it obviously hasn't recognised it sufficiently to make it light up
[14:05] <Essope> wrong driver?
[14:06] <fenrig> surelynog
[14:06] <fenrig> surely not
[14:06] <fenrig> i have the correct one
[14:07] <fenrig> i just need to know where i can find the config file for ndis
[14:56] <fenrig> ive got a serious problem
[14:56] <fenrig> finally wlan0 is detected
[14:56] <fenrig> using ndis
[14:56] <fenrig> iwconfig shows wlan0 up
[14:56] <fenrig> but now i need to boot in recovery mode
[14:56] <fenrig> en start gdm manually
[14:56] <fenrig> and hal doesnt work
[14:56] <fenrig> if i boot normally
[14:57] <fenrig> and then log in using gdm
[14:57] <fenrig> i stops with running
[14:57] <fenrig> i just have that background in orange
[14:57] <fenrig> can sombody help???
[14:59] <bazhang> fenrig: this is only alpha 2
[14:59] <fenrig> yeah so
[14:59] <fenrig> it worked before
[14:59] <fenrig> :s
[14:59] <bazhang> topic? did you read it?
[15:00] <fenrig> no i mean
[15:00] <fenrig> i'm running alpha2 the whole day
[15:01] <fenrig> and i rebooted 20 times already
[15:01] <fenrig> but now i suddenly got this
[15:01] <bazhang> perhaps should avoid the frustration and wait a bit
[15:01] <fenrig> i think its something i did
[15:02] <fenrig> :s
[15:03] <Pici> Hardy is not ready for end user consumption. You will get errors, you will crash, and you should be able to either figure out whats wrong, file a bug, or be ready to re-install at any point in time.
[15:03] <fenrig> i am ready to reinstall
[15:03] <fenrig> :D
[15:03] <Pici> Perhaps you should go to Gutsy, or some other stable version.
[15:03] <fenrig> maybe
[15:04] <Tm_T> agreed with Pici
[15:04] <fenrig> though i'm used to use bleeding edge software
[15:04] <fenrig> especcialy ubuntu
[15:04] <fenrig> well i'll wait for the beta then
[15:04] <fenrig> dammit
[15:04] <Dannilion> Every bug I've found on Hardy someone else has already reported :p though there's nothing major at the moment other than a kernel breaking wireless
[15:04] <fenrig> really
[15:05] <Dannilion> Yup
[15:05] <fenrig> is de kernel breaking wireless??
[15:05] <fenrig> can u explain
[15:05] <Dannilion> it was on my laptop
[15:05] <Pici> Dannilion: What card do you have?
[15:05] <Dannilion> erm... an intel one
[15:05] <fenrig> wait let him tell
[15:05] <fenrig> whats wrong?
[15:05] <Dannilion> (sorry, on my Gutsy machine right now)
[15:05] <fenrig> but wlan0 is working
[15:06] <fenrig> and my issue started when wlan0 wasn't working anymore
[15:06] <fenrig> sorry
[15:06] <fenrig> wasn't = started
[15:06] <fenrig> i'm getting tired
[15:06] <fenrig> i'm working on it the whole day
[15:06] <Pici> Dannilion: There was/is an issue with iwl3945, but it turned out that it was working, just the status LEDs werent. And it had renamed itself to wlan0_rename from eth1
[15:06] <Dannilion> that sounds right
[15:07] <Dannilion> not updated it for a few days
[15:07] <Dannilion> (Christmas got in the way :p)
[15:07] <Pici> Its running 'fine' for me.
[15:07] <fenrig> damn
[15:08] <Dannilion> I just used the Gutsy kernel for a bit as I couldn't be bothered to fix it or reinstall to Gutsy over Christmas
[15:08] <Pici> Well, not 'ready for release' fine, but actually less buggy than I thought it would be at this point in time.
[15:08] <fenrig> i'm going to reinstall ubuntu tomorrow
[15:09] <Dannilion> That was the only showstopper bug I found (my laptop has the internet connection and not being able to get wireless working meant none of my other computers had internet)
[15:09] <Dannilion> the other bugs were just minor annoyances that others had reported
[18:11] <marcio3000> hello
[18:11] <marcio3000> i have a problem at the boot
[18:11] <rsk> ok
[18:11] <marcio3000> how can i read the log?
[18:11] <rsk> what problem
[18:11] <marcio3000> problems with the hard disk something about the cluster difference is different
[18:12] <rsk> and it stops there?
[18:12] <marcio3000> no no it goes on but it says it will not be fixed automatically
[18:12] <Pici> marcio3000: On Hardy?
[18:12] <marcio3000> on 7.10
[18:13] <rsk> #ubuntu then
[18:13] <marcio3000> k sorry
[18:29] <baghyay> hwo to add medibuntu to my hardy
[18:31] <Pici> baghyay: I dont know if medibuntu has hardy repos
[18:32] <Pici> Also, you shouldnt be running Hardy if you dont know how to make repository changes.. its really not ready for end user consumption
[18:34] <bazhang> gutsy should work for libdvdcss2 baghyay the repos that is
[23:42] <bderrly> is anyone else having issues running java apps? ... #6 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.13/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so(Java_sun_awt_X11GraphicsEnvironment_initDisplay+0x9) [0x2aaaab9251b9]