[00:06] <Dan8765_linux> well that waws a pain
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> had to remove the sound card
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> was blocking access to the fdd
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> slot
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> i did manage to back up about 1 gigs worth of stuff
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> i had 2 ipod shuffles
[00:07] <Dan8765_linux> one is 500 megs the other is 1 gig
[00:08] <Dan8765_linux> got those to mount w/ thel ive cd
[00:08] <Dan8765_linux> my firelite drive wouldnt' mount
[00:08] <Dan8765_linux> guess i didnt disconnect it properly in xp
[00:08] <Dan8765_linux> so xbun wouldnt mount it
[00:08] <Dan8765_linux> if it formats my e: partition i'm gonna cry like a baby
[00:09] <Dan8765_linux> got lot of blender work on there
[00:09] <Dan8765_linux> that i didnt back u
[00:09] <Dan8765_linux> p
[00:12] <Dan8765_linux> you still there zore?
[00:12] <zoredache> somewhat...
[00:12] <Dan8765_linux> i did an fdisk /mbr from a:
[00:12] <Dan8765_linux> now i reboot
[00:13] <Dan8765_linux> it works
[00:13] <Dan8765_linux> windows!!!
[00:13] <Dan8765_linux> thatnk u
[00:13] <zoredache> np...
[00:13] <zoredache> make backups of your data
[00:14] <zoredache> get a portable drive that you use for backups only... make them regularly...
[00:14] <Dan8765_linux> yeah
[00:15] <Dan8765_linux> i need some kinda auto back setup
[00:15] <Dan8765_linux> back up
[00:15] <zoredache> also get a rescuecd version of linux like the alt installer cd, or perhaps sysrescuecd (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page)
[00:15] <Dan8765_linux> like redundant hdds or somehtin
[00:15] <zoredache> redundant drives don't protect you from destroying your data
[00:16] <zoredache> they only protect you from equipment failures
[00:16] <Dan8765_linux> i really liek that live cd i got now though at least i culd get to my files
[00:16] <Dan8765_linux> true
[00:16] <zoredache> if you where running linux all the time, I would suggest using dirvish for backups...
[00:17] <zoredache> once it is setup it works really well
[00:17] <Dan8765_linux> i know squat about linux
[00:17] <zoredache> I think dirvish is where Apple stole their idea for Time Machine from
[00:17] <Dan8765_linux> i first thought of using it when i heard walmart had a computer for 200 bucks that used it
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> so i thought, i'll put it on my other pc
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> that is kinda slow
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> this one
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> i jsut use it to surf
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> bit torrent
[00:18] <Dan8765_linux> and luckily to xchat
[00:19] <Dan8765_linux> i isntalled blender to on it
[00:21] <Dan8765_linux> gtg thanks for you help. happy new year
[03:07] <centzon> hi
[03:08] <centzon> anyone know where i can download the alternate install cd?
[03:08] <centzon> ive googled and looked in the xubuntu and ubuntu sites
[03:09] <centzon> and i couldnt find it
[03:38] <somerville32> http://xubuntu.org/get
[03:42] <centzon> thanks
[04:11] <magic_ninja> FreeFontPath FPE:"usr/share/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1 fixint.
[06:05] <frederick85> how big is a xubuntu iso cd
[06:05] <frederick85> this site doesn't have it
[06:05] <frederick85> ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/releases
[06:58] <shashai> hi there any one can help
[06:58] <shashai> ?
[07:21] <BubblegumTate> I'm in xfce and my panels aren't showing and I can't bring up the panels manager. How can I kill/fix this?
[10:13] <demonskier> how do I sign in as root
[10:20] <sugardrunk> demonskier, why?
[10:21] <demonskier> cuz im trin to move my drivers directly into the file system so i dont accidentally delete them later on
[10:22] <demonskier> otherwise they sit in home with the million other random files
[10:23] <demonskier> any ideas
[10:23] <sugardrunk> demonskier, use sudo?
[10:23] <frederick85> is xubuntu supposed to look like gnome
[10:24] <demonskier> im a noob so i dono the commands on how to use sudo ... i tried but have no idea wat the syntax is... normally i just copy off the web when installing files
[10:25] <frederick85> demonskier: to perform things like system tasks u need root access. typing sudo prior to a command allows you to perform tasks as root
[10:26] <frederick85> demonskier: well not as root but close enough
[10:27] <sugardrunk> demonskier, i guess you can just use your file manager if you are bad with terminal, eg. sudo thunar or sudo nautilus etc.
[10:27] <frederick85> demonskier: yes you can use the file manager in root mode by typing what sugardrunk said in your console
[10:28] <demonskier> o ok thnx
[10:28] <demonskier> and just for future reference is there anywhere i can learn some of the terminal commands
[10:28] <frederick85> demonskier: *NIX is just very particular about file permissions compared to windows
[10:29] <frederick85> demonskier: another tip you can use * and tab in terminal to speed things up. Autocompletion.
[10:29] <demonskier> k thnx a lot
[10:30] <frederick85> now I have a question. How can I get device eth1 to auto start when I boot
[10:30] <demonskier> k it works thank you guys a lot
[10:31] <frederick85> Im doing it manually with ifup eth1
[10:31] <frederick85> demonskier: you'll find alot of help for a question like that in #ubuntu but just ignore people who call you n00b and I wouldn't call yourself that either
[10:32] <demonskier> lol k thnx
[11:49] <abs512> hi, can anyone help me? trying to compile evtouch, now getting ./configure error "No package 'x11' found" from pkg-config
[11:50] <abs512> I have already googled for solution for 3 hours - found same error, but no solution...
[11:51] <slimjimflim> abs512 did you try `sudo apt-get install x11`
[11:52] <abs512> E: Couldn't find package x11
[11:52] <slimjimflim> abs512 did you try enabling non-default repos?
[11:52] <abs512> command?
[11:52] <abs512> no
[11:53] <abs512> I have not, how do I do that?
[11:54] <slimjimflim> edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the urls
[11:54] <slimjimflim> you can find more repos on google
[11:55] <slimjimflim> but that should make x11 work
[11:55] <slimjimflim> just add more in anywhere if you want
[11:55] <abs512> k, iĺl try that then, ty
[11:58] <slimjimflim> np
[11:59] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to get xfce to ask me if i want to kill an app when it times out the way that gnome does (at least on ubuntu gutsy)
[13:26] <NoranRad> has anyone tried to use (x)ubuntu on a sony vaio sz61mn?
[14:39] <martinZGR> hi, i'm on xubuntu gutsy, and there's a problem with instalation of flashplugin-nonfree - when i mark it in synaptic the installation begins and after download the md5 checksum is incorrect
[14:40] <vinze> martinZGR, that's right, there was a bug with that
[14:40] <vinze> martinZGR, wait a sec...
[14:40] <martinZGR> ok
[14:40] <vinze> martinZGR, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/12/26/manually-install-adobe-flash-temporary-flashplugin-nonfree-fix/
[14:40] <vinze> (Also read through the comments, I believe there were packages somewhere)
[14:41] <martinZGR> vinze, thanks very much:)
[14:41] <vinze> np :)
[15:42] <paulgray> hi
[15:42] <paulgray> I've got a problem with xubuntu live cd
[15:42] <vinze> Hey paulgray
[15:42] <paulgray> 7.10 version
[15:43] <paulgray> I cannot login with username "ubuntu" and blank passwd
[15:43] <paulgray> could someone help? :)
[18:07] <evil_tech> anyone have problems with linux being really slow on an Asus P4P800?
[18:19] <Freddy2> hi
[18:19] <evil_tech> hi
[18:19] <Freddy2> a few days ago i disabled automatic updates, so the icon on systray went away, but after reenabling them it doesn't return.. how can be don?
[18:20] <Freddy2> *done
[18:21] <thruxton> Freddy2: there hasnt been that many updates in the last couple of days
[18:22] <Freddy2> right now it's been manually updated, but i'd like to get it back (the icon at systray)
[19:04] <evil_tech> ping
[19:44] <lopex21> hi
[19:48] <lopex21> does anyone know if theres a way to kick start xubuntu?
[19:48] <zoredache> sorry, but what do you mean?
[19:48] <lopex21> i installed it last night and when i was done i put it into hibernation
[19:48] <lopex21> and now it wont start
[19:48] <lopex21> or even show a bios screen
[19:49] <zoredache> if you don't see the bios, that would be an indication of a computer failure, not xubuntu...  Have you tried completely removing the power?
[19:49] <lopex21> yes, but ill try it again
[19:50] <lopex21> nothing
[19:51] <zoredache> so when you press the power button on the computer nothing happens.  no displays, no anything?  Do you hear the fans turn on?
[19:51] <lopex21> the fans turn on, hard drive, cd drives, etc
[19:51] <lopex21> all those turn on
[19:51] <lopex21> but nothing shows up on the screen
[19:51] <lopex21> i chekced the connection and checked with another monitor
[19:52] <solowlr> somehow I got rid of the top panel on the desktop and now I have no idea how to get it back...
[19:54] <zoredache> solowlr: if the bottem panel is still present right click on it, and choose customize panel...  And a new panel and position it in the top left corner
[19:55] <zoredache> lopex21: I don't have any ideas for you.  I suspect you had some hardware failure that just coinciendentally happened...
[19:56] <lopex21> ok
[19:56] <lopex21> thanks for your help though
[19:56] <lopex21> i think ill try to take out the cmos battery
[19:56] <lopex21> and hope for the best
[19:56] <solowlr> zoredache: got it!  thanks!
[20:17] <slow-motion> hi
[20:18] <evil_tech> ping
[20:20] <VertexOfLIfe> A quick question about the installer. If the installer repeatedly gives me /usr/bin/dpkg error code (1) should I be worried?
[20:21] <VertexOfLIfe> Hello? =P
[20:21] <evil_tech> dunno
[20:21] <VertexOfLIfe> lol Oh well
[20:21] <rick21> i got something to work!!!!!
[20:21] <VertexOfLIfe> No one seems to know in k/x/ubuntu
[20:22] <evil_tech> im still trying to get a working system again
[20:22] <VertexOfLIfe> What happened?
[20:22] <evil_tech> anyone know how to turn off irq polling?
[20:22] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: there's usually an additional error which might indicate what the real problem is.
[20:23] <evil_tech> found a P4P800 deluxe but linux refuses to run on it
[20:23] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: which "the installer" are you referring to, btw?
[20:23] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: An additional error? Xubuntu
[20:23] <VertexOfLIfe> 7.10
[20:23] <evil_tech> narrowed the problem down to the Promise ide controller. forums suggested i try stopping irq polling
[20:24] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: when does it show up?
[20:25] <VertexOfLIfe> After completing 100%, it continues onto 101...110 etc, it says post-installation install script
[20:25] <CW1> hi all
[20:25] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: that sounds really funky.
[20:26] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: I am at the loginscreen right now..I'll poke around, and if anything seems wonky I'll reinstall
[20:26] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: It seems to have to do something with the language packs, because it is proccessing them when it spits out the errors
[20:26] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: you might just try to drop into a console/terminal and do a sudo apt-get update + sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:27] <VertexOfLIfe> Aye
[20:27] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: aha. I've noticed issues with them myself, but nothing that I've been able to reliably reproduc:(
[20:27] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: a bit of fiddling with apt-get, and it resolved itself in my case.
[20:28] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: Yeah, I'll upgrade and keep a watch out for any issues.
[20:28] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: There's already one...but not unexpected
[20:29] <VertexOfLIfe> Every linux distro hates my monitor. Optiquest has absolutely shit support
[20:29] <CW1> i just installed xbuntu on a old laptop and everything went good now i cant get a desktop what is the command for that? any help would be greatful :LD
[20:29] <CW1> ;
[20:29] <CW1> ;
[20:29] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1: Um, isn't it apt-get install xubuntu-desktop? Did you use the installer?
[20:30] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: viewsonic shouldnt be a huge problem. I thought they were pretty much auto-configured these days, with dpms and all.
[20:30] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1: LiveCD?
[20:30] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk:  Not viewsonic, it's Optiquest Q9, and all the distros assume it's 60 hs, and it's actually 5hz refresh. Chancng the refresh rate usually does it, but it dosent work right now..
[20:30] <VertexOfLIfe> hz*
[20:30] <CW1> i got the cd from the website
[20:31] <VertexOfLIfe> 75*
[20:31] <CW1> cant remember which one it was
[20:31] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1: And the desktop is not loading post-installation?
[20:31] <CW1> it was for any system
[20:32] <VertexOfLIfe> Okay, tell me, what are you looking at after bootup?
[20:32] <karltk> VertexOfLIfe: I was under the impression that the optiquests were produced by viewsonic, but I may easily be mistaken on that one.
[20:33] <CW1> xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386 <--thats the 1 i got and nstalled
[20:33] <VertexOfLIfe> karltk: Hm, you may be right. I have no idea. My parent's monitor.
[20:33] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1:  oh, you used the text-based installer
[20:33] <kblo> does anyone know why firefox can't run flash installed on system side??
[20:34] <CW1> yea thats it sorry iam new to this
[20:34] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1: I don't know much about the text-based installers...
[20:34] <evil_tech> what about them?
[20:34] <VertexOfLIfe> CW1: When you start up, what do you see?
[20:35] <VertexOfLIfe> evil_tech: He used the alternate xubuntu cd, and apparenly is looking for a desktop.
[20:35] <evil_tech> he must have installed a command line only system on accident
[20:35] <karltk> kblo: what do you mean by that?
[20:35] <Flare183> is xubuntu only avaiable in DVD form for the US
[20:35] <evil_tech> flare183: no
[20:35] <VertexOfLIfe> Flare183: no, I know the site you're talking about
[20:36] <kblo> karltk: that I could install flash by firefox
[20:36] <CW1> well it starts up and just gives me a black screen after booting asking for my login and password then stays in bash command line
[20:36] <Flare183> VertexOfLIfe: yeah on the download page it says "United States(DVD)
[20:36] <Flare183> VertexOfLIfe: yeah on the download page it says "United States(DVD)" (correction)
[20:36] <evil_tech> CW1: type sudo init 6
[20:36] <evil_tech> and tell us what it does
[20:36] <kblo> karltk: I had to run the installer by normal user
[20:36] <VertexOfLIfe> Flare183: I got that too, click on it, it's actually a LiveCD I don't know why it says that
[20:36] <karltk> kblo: I've installed the flashplugin-nonfree package (yes, I know, I've strayed from the fsf motto)
[20:37] <Flare183> VertexOfLIfe: ok thanks
[20:37] <kblo> karltk: I tryed but didn't worked
[20:37] <karltk> kblo: (from the multiverse)
[20:38] <kblo> when I run aabout:pluigns on firefox it wasn't show nothing
[20:38] <karltk> kblo: did it show up in firefox when you entered the url "about:plugins"?
[20:38] <karltk> kblo: hmm..
[20:38] <kblo> but know it's working
[20:38] <kblo> know I'm tryiong java6
[20:40] <karltk> kblo: I've installed sun-java6-plugin for that.
[20:40] <kblo> karltk: me too,
[20:41] <kblo> karltk: but I couldn't acess the site with java
[20:41] <kblo> f
[20:42] <VertexOfLIfe> kblo: I had the same problem. What I had to do was go to synaptic, remove flash-plugin-nonfree, gnash, and gnash libraries, then find a website on firefox that had flash and have firefox install it when the "Install missing plugins" option appeared.
[20:42] <karltk> kblo: but it shows up in about:plugins?
[20:42] <kblo> YES
[20:42] <kblo>  Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03
[20:42] <l337turkey> Hey guys how do you get the alternate cd?
[20:43] <kblo> l337turkey: froim the xubuntu's downloads page
[20:43] <karltk> kblo: weird. check that you don't have too many weird symlinks in your ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/plugins dir
[20:43] <VertexOfLIfe> l337turkey: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[20:43] <evil_tech> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/7.10/release/
[20:43] <CW1> all it done was reboot
[20:44] <l337turkey> is the alternate with the larger one?
[20:44] <evil_tech> you have no desktop installed is my guess
[20:44] <karltk> (names
[20:44] <karltk> whoops;)
[20:44] <evil_tech> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <evil_tech>  will install it
[20:44] <l337turkey> cause i gotta get linux with a gui on a machine with 64mb of ram
[20:44] <evil_tech> try DSL or Fluxbuntu then
[20:45] <kblo> VertexOfLIfe: I try to do this but it gives me an error after all
[20:45] <l337turkey> Are they "N00b" friendly
[20:45] <evil_tech> so so
[20:45] <VertexOfLIfe> kblo: after trying to do it through firefox?
[20:45] <CW1> it switched to run level 6 and restarted
[20:45] <evil_tech> oops
[20:45] <kblo> VertexOfLIfe: Yes
[20:45] <evil_tech> damn my fingers
[20:45] <evil_tech> sorry CW1
[20:45] <VertexOfLIfe> l337turkey: Fluxbuntu is not at all, my parents hated it, brother couldent figure it out' I haven't had any experience with DSL
[20:45] <l337turkey> does fluxbuntu have  a live cd?
[20:46] <VertexOfLIfe> I found fluxbox really frustruating.
[20:46] <evil_tech> i meant init 5
[20:46] <VertexOfLIfe> kblo: did you try restarting firefox and trying again?
[20:46] <evil_tech> i think they do now. not sure though been a while since i played with it
[20:46] <kblo> yes sure
[20:46] <l337turkey> does anyone have any experence with DSL?
[20:46] <CW1> its cool ill try it again lol
[20:47] <karltk> l337turkey: yes, a little. I wouldn't give it my mom, but it's pretty decent!
[20:47] <evil_tech> ive ran DSL but never played with more than what is there by default
[20:47] <karltk> l337turkey: erm, "to my mom", I suppose it should read...;)
[20:47] <l337turkey> Alright can it run like firefox or WINE or really just doom?
[20:47] <VertexOfLIfe> l337turkey: http://www.tuxs.org/livecds.htm has a review of DSL
[20:48] <karltk> l337turkey: ff should be okay. never tried wine.
[20:49] <l337turkey> alright will try the live CD thanks
[20:49] <VertexOfLIfe> kblo: The only other thing I can think of is either rebooting, reinstalling firefox, or compling the flash-plugin..
[20:53] <spacecat> hi
[20:53] <evil_tech> any luck CW1?
[20:53] <spacecat> i have a question about gcc and gdc
[20:53] <spacecat> plz private msg me
[20:54] <CW1> now it looks like it is stuck just says switching to runlevel 5 sending processes the term signal
[20:54] <evil_tech> yeah i think you must have installed a command line system only
[20:55] <evil_tech> to get a GUI you'll have to install it via command line. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:56] <CW1> would a command line system install grub? ( yea i know it should iam just asking to make sure )
[20:56] <zoredache> CW1: yes
[20:58] <zoredache> CW1: why did you start with 6.06?
[21:00] <CW1> well cause iam just running it on a AMD K6 cpu with only 64mb of memory
[21:01] <evil_tech> ouch
[21:02] <CW1> and from what i read from the website that was the best choice to go with
[21:02] <evil_tech> thats arguable
[21:03] <l337turkey> CWI: Try DSL thats what I'm about to do with a system with 64mb of RAM
[21:03] <CW1> yea i know its a long shot to get it to work right but anythig is got to be better than windows 98
[21:03] <CW1> lol
[21:03] <evil_tech> this is true
[21:03] <evil_tech> xubuntu will be rather slow on 64mb ram
[21:04] <CW1> the color want work right with DSL
[21:04] <spacecat> i really like xubuntu
[21:04] <evil_tech> you could try fluxbuntu. only problem with that is you have to know how to configure it
[21:04] <spacecat> runs great on old machines
[21:04] <vinze> spacecat, and on new machines ;-)
[21:05] <spacecat> fedora looks nicer tho
[21:05] <evil_tech> meh
[21:05] <vinze> spacecat, you can theme Xubuntu to look like Fedora ;-)
[21:05] <spacecat> so i have a question about installing a D compiler
[21:05] <spacecat> once i gmake it
[21:05] <evil_tech> anyone have linux running on an Asus P4P800? cause i cant get it to run
[21:06] <spacecat> im not sure if its an extension of gcc
[21:06] <spacecat> or a differentprogram all together
[21:07] <CW1> i got a p4p800 asusus iam on now but iam running xp pro on it
[21:07] <evil_tech> yeah xp runs fine
[21:07] <evil_tech> linux chokes and dies
[21:07] <evil_tech> i think i have narrowed it down to the promise controller
[21:08] <CW1> the guy that sent this pc to me had linux on this pc
[21:08] <evil_tech> forums say its an IRQ issus since it has both IDE and SATA and that a bios update fixed it
[21:08] <evil_tech> but i have the latest bios
[21:09] <CW1> think he had mandrake on it its a 2.6 with 512mb memory
[21:09] <evil_tech> i've got a 3.06 and 3gb memory
[21:09] <CW1> DAMN
[21:10] <evil_tech> yeah
[21:10] <evil_tech> should have no problems
[21:10] <evil_tech> resources wise
[21:10] <CW1> none at all
[21:11] <CW1> bet it will smoke a dvd when it burns one lol
[21:11] <evil_tech> it hangs after finding the promise controller the drives attached to it and this message : hda: host protected area => 1
[21:12] <CW1> brb let me see if i can get the desk top down loading
[21:12] <kblo> f!!
[21:17] <CW1> wooo hooo its downloading it now
[21:19] <evil_tech> :)
[21:19] <CW1> thanks evil_tech that was a great big help to me
[21:21] <CW1> its been over a year sense i have installed Linux on anything and i done forgot the commands i did learn
[21:23] <l337turkey> I just got the livecd on my 98 machine and it works way better than 98
[21:23] <evil_tech> lol
[21:23] <evil_tech> thats not too surprising
[21:23] <CW1> when i started out on Linux i used Mepis
[21:24] <l337turkey> but is there a way to use dail-up with it till i get a router?
[21:24] <evil_tech> i've been using ubuntu since 4.04
[21:24] <CW1> lol theres goes another windows 98
[21:24]  * vinze too :)
[21:24] <l337turkey> also how to mount my HDD
[21:25] <evil_tech> is it DSL
[21:25] <l337turkey> yeah
[21:25] <evil_tech> right click and i think it is ... damn i cant remember
[21:25] <l337turkey> lol il find it out
[21:25] <evil_tech> let me see if i can get it running under qemu
[21:26] <CW1> well i was trying different verision of linux at the time but b4 i made it to ubuntu all my pcs got burnt up in our house
[21:28] <CW1> we lost almost everything i had like 10 to 12 pcs
[21:29] <CW1> now iam down to this 1 that was gave to me right after the fire and it took me a year to get internet back
[21:31] <l337turkey> would mount /dev/hd01 work?
[21:33] <l337turkey> o wait i found the program
[21:33] <spacecat> so do you guys have any usefull tips
[21:33] <evil_tech> dsl puts drives in mnt
[21:33] <spacecat> for a beginner
[21:33] <evil_tech> beginner to what exactly
[21:33] <vinze> spacecat, to read the manual, lots of useful information in there :)
[21:34] <evil_tech> well i got linux running in qemu at least
[21:35] <evil_tech> ooo 4.2 looks pretty
[21:36] <CW1> mines still updating or it was installing them when i just checked on it
[21:38] <CW1> got tobe installing them cause the lights on the front of my roughter/modem is just on and not flashing lol
[21:38] <CW1> router*
[21:39] <CW1> <---got big fingers for the this keyboard
[21:39] <evil_tech> stupid question: does the repos for ubuntu work on DSL since they are both debian?
[21:49] <spacecat> this is some slutty preteen emogirls email Spacekack@hotmail.com (add her!!)
[21:51] <l337turkey> hey guys whats the best way of getting DSL on my Harddrive without getting rid of my files
[21:51] <l337turkey> ?
[21:52] <evil_tech> files on the hard drive?
[21:53] <l337turkey> like the music and pictures and word shit
[21:53] <evil_tech> well ideally that stuff would be on  a seperate partition
[21:53] <evil_tech> so i would defrag in windows
[21:54] <evil_tech> then resize the partition and to make space for DSL
[21:55] <l337turkey> Is there a partiton resizing on the livecd?
[21:56] <evil_tech> yeah
[21:56] <evil_tech> you'll have to install it though
[21:56] <evil_tech> sudo apt-get install gparted
[21:57] <l337turkey> do I have to download it?
[21:57] <vinze> evil_tech, can't the installer also resize partitions?
[21:57] <evil_tech> yeah
[21:57] <vinze> Also, I thought Gparted *was* on the install cd
[21:57] <evil_tech> i dont think its installed by default
[21:57] <evil_tech> parted and fdisk cli tools are
[21:57] <vinze> Yeah, it is on the LiveCD, just doesn't get installed
[21:57] <evil_tech> but i dont think the gui is
[21:58] <evil_tech> probably wrong
[21:58] <evil_tech> i always use the alternate install so..
[21:58] <vinze> Ah well, if it's not there it's easy to install, not that much of a problem ;-)
[21:59] <l337turkey> so i still have to download it though eh?
[21:59] <vinze> Not sure, I believe not but I could be wrong of course
[21:59] <l337turkey> kk i will try
[22:09] <l337turkey> well i don't think its installed by default
[22:09] <vinze> Not? It's supposed to be in Applications->System->GNOME partition editor
[22:09] <l337turkey> is it hard to compile things?
[22:10] <vinze> Depends on your definition of "hard": I don't really like to do it and often do not succeed
[22:11] <l337turkey> Ohh well i need wine but don't really feel like using dial-up
[22:11] <vinze> Why would you need to compile wine?
[22:12] <l337turkey> because i would have to use apt-get but i don't want to download it with dial-up
[22:12] <vinze> l337turkey, you can also download the packages now manually and put them on a USB drive or something
[22:13] <l337turkey> really that would be useful
[22:13] <vinze> l337turkey, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=wine&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[22:14] <vinze> You'd have to download the dependencies too though, and I'm not sure which are pre-installed
[22:15] <l337turkey> what ones do i need to download for dls
[22:15] <l337turkey> dsl*
[22:15] <vinze> You mean Damn Small Linux dsl?
[22:16] <l337turkey> yes
[22:16] <vinze> Ow, don't know if you can use Ubuntu packages for that
[22:16] <l337turkey> ohh ok
[22:16] <evil_tech> ive heard of people doing a dist upgrade from DSL before
[22:16] <vinze> http://damnsmalllinux.org/packages.html says: "Also, keep in mind that Damn Small is not pure Debian based. "
[22:16] <evil_tech> complicated stuff though
[22:18] <l337turkey> il try the debian install from WINE's site
[22:20] <evil_tech> i want to throw this stupid board in the street
[22:24] <evil_tech> anyone who has linux running on an Asus P4P800 Deluxe private message me
[22:44] <l337turkey> Well i just figured out that DSL will use rpm's
[22:44] <l337turkey> i think...
[23:09] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt
[23:42] <Nostahl> hi all
[23:42] <Nostahl> how's xubuntu life
[23:43] <zoredache> pardon?
[23:43] <Nostahl> how do you like xubuntu
[23:43] <Nostahl> im downloading it atm
[23:43] <Nostahl> cant wait to try it
[23:45] <zoredache> I like it fine
[23:46] <Nostahl> what mainly do you use your computer for
[23:47] <zoredache> I am a network administrator.... I am responsible for about 40 linux hosts (deb4.0) and 20 w2k3 servers, and 1 OSX server.  I xubuntu on my workstation to manage everything.
[23:48] <Nostahl> neato
[23:48] <zoredache> so I use lots of network client stuff rdp/ssh/etc...
[23:48] <Nostahl> maby you can tell me...
[23:48] <Nostahl> what is needed to set up a way to remote download stuff to a different computer?
[23:49] <Nostahl> ie. i was thinking of setting up one of my secondary desktops
[23:49] <Nostahl> to just do downloads
[23:49] <Nostahl> leaving my main pc's free but i'd like to initiate the downloads from my main pc etc
[23:49] <zoredache> what protocol?  http, or something else?
[23:49] <Nostahl> http aye
[23:50] <Nostahl> just normal everyday internet browsing downloading etc
[23:50] <zoredache> why?
[23:50] <Nostahl> i was just contemplating if it were possible
[23:51] <Nostahl> it'd keep my main pc's hd free of fragmentation longer etc
[23:51] <Nostahl> and running speedyer
[23:51] <billy_idle> gn8
[23:51] <zoredache> downloading files shouldn't make your computer slower, or have a big impact on fragmentation...
[23:53] <zoredache> anyway, just setup a box, ssh and use lynx, wget or some other command line browser
[23:56] <Nostahl> k
[23:59] <evil_tech> ping