| LinAsH | bderrly : It works with this: export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true | 00:33 |
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| bderrly | LinAsH, thanks | 00:36 |
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| khermans | are virtual terminals broken for anyone else since alpha2 ? | 02:16 |
| khermans | my thinkpad r52 didnt have issues in alpha21 | 02:16 |
| khermans | alpha1 | 02:16 |
| khermans | good to see xorg with fglrx is back working again | 02:16 |
| khermans | was b0rked after that update also | 02:16 |
| khermans | so if anyone else hasnt logged bug for broken virtual terminals, i will log it | 02:18 |
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| abdulla | guys 1 question | 06:30 |
| abdulla | how good is hardy right now? | 06:30 |
| bazhang | still alpha2 | 06:44 |
| WGGMk | who can I talk to about being "unbanned" from #ubuntu??? | 06:50 |
| crdlb | WGGMk: #ubuntu-ops | 06:50 |
| WGGMk | crdlb: thank you very much | 06:51 |
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| SeveredCross | Anyone else experienced almost constant Nautilus crashes? | 08:24 |
| Hobbsee | no | 08:25 |
| SeveredCross | Hmm. Might just be a peculiarity of my config then. | 08:25 |
| SeveredCross | May be TimeVault. | 08:25 |
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| ader10 | Hardy should have a graphical grub screen, as opposed to gutsy's current default white-and-black. The grub screen should look something like gutsy's current usplash, because at 60 hz with a crt, black backgrounds look ok but white looks ugly | 16:01 |
| bazhang | hmm | 16:11 |
| ader10 | Or you guys could put some effort into the development of grub2 | 16:11 |
| bazhang | I think #ubuntu-devel is the channel you want for that | 16:12 |
| Pici | ader10: Check the Hardy blueprints to see if anything you're requesting is already being worked on | 16:13 |
| ader10 | Pici: ok | 16:14 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: Its unlikely to be ubuntu who would do something like that | 16:14 |
| ader10 | h3sp4wn: You sure? Ubuntu went for the eye candy in gutsy with compiz fusion | 16:15 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: Sun might (as it currently has a boatload of patches that upstream grub will not accept as the original grub is legacy) | 16:15 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: Yeah but they didn't write compiz fusion | 16:16 |
| ader10 | They embraced it though | 16:16 |
| ader10 | :P | 16:16 |
| ader10 | what ever, as long as I have a free OS I'm alright :) | 16:16 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: Thats different if someone else does the work required for grub2 to be an option they will embrace that | 16:16 |
| ader10 | "someone else" = dev | 16:17 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: Exactly - use what is best for you at any time | 16:17 |
| h3sp4wn | ader10: They don't work the same as most of the other big Linux companies | 16:17 |
| ader10 | that's partly the reason of how successful it is | 16:18 |
| ader10 | Novel... partnered... with... | 16:18 |
| ader10 | Novell sucks, they basically made it legal for Microsoft to use open source code in windows | 16:18 |
| h3sp4wn | Yeah but they also wrote compiz | 16:18 |
| ader10 | Yup | 16:19 |
| ader10 | But they're falling for microsoft, Microsoft's "motto" is Extend, embrace, extinguish | 16:19 |
| ader10 | it's worked so far for every company they work with | 16:19 |
| h3sp4wn | Sun is still around (and still has a good deal of cash) | 16:20 |
| ader10 | I'm not aware of Sun doing much together with Microsoft | 16:20 |
| ader10 | But then again I don't read digg :P | 16:21 |
| h3sp4wn | I don't read digg either (fortunately) computing equivalent of ok magazine | 16:21 |
| |bug``| | hi all .. | 16:33 |
| h3sp4wn | |bug``|: Hi | 16:35 |
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| bmk789_ | is there a good way to get a 2.6.24 kernel into gutsy? | 18:44 |
| WorkingOnWis1 | bmk789_: I just saw a page on how to do this yesteday. but didnt pay much mind to it since I am in Hardy, but yes there is. google "hardy kernel gutsy and see what u get... | 18:46 |
| bmk789_ | thanks | 18:46 |
| WorkingOnWis1 | yw | 18:47 |
| DanaG | WTF? I was just browsing through some pages, and xscreensaver locked TWICE. | 18:51 |
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| awen_ | how can you be sure that a variable is permanently exported? ... is it enough to put it in you .bashrc, will it then also apply to programs you run from the KDE-launcher etc.? | 21:27 |
| Dr_willis | normally you put that in the .bashrc or .bash_profile - correct.. | 21:31 |
| Dr_willis | It will gety set when you login, and exported to all other running processes . | 21:32 |
| awen_ | Dr_willis: thanks.. then i just have to do a restart or relogin some time :) | 21:33 |
| h3sp4wn | awen_: You can put it in /etc/environment if you want also | 21:34 |
| h3sp4wn | (If you want it for all users of the system) | 21:35 |
| awen_ | okay :) | 21:35 |
| awen_ | it's just for the "export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true" to fix java... do we know what causes it? | 21:36 |
| h3sp4wn | awen_: Its to do with libxinerama | 22:05 |
| h3sp4wn | awen_: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6532373 | 22:06 |
| awen_ | so we suspect this to be a permanent problem for java 1.5 and 1.6 ... that's bad :/ | 22:10 |
| h3sp4wn | awen_: Which app in particular is giving you the issues ? | 22:12 |
| h3sp4wn | If its one with its own bundled java (like Matlab) you can make it use the system java | 22:12 |
| awen_ | h3sp4wn: a java-applet in firefox... i suppose this uses system java | 22:13 |
| awen_ | but it should work with system java? | 22:13 |
| h3sp4wn | awen_: update-alternatives --list java | 22:14 |
| awen_ | h3sp4wn: it points to java-6-sun | 22:16 |
| awen_ | hmm... doesn't make any difference if java-1-5-0-sun or java-6-sun is chosen | 22:20 |
| crdlb | it's supposed to be fixed in the latest version of java | 22:22 |
| crdlb | (hardy is the first version of ubuntu to use xlib-xcb) | 22:22 |
| dennda | hey there | 22:23 |
| dennda | the latest x.org (7.3) in hardy also has better hotplug-support for external displays / beamers, hasn't it? (don't be afraid, I know that it is alpha and what that means) | 22:24 |
| h3sp4wn | crdlb: Really ? I thought it was just hacked around in gutsy | 22:24 |
| awen_ | crdlb: only in java7 as far as i could read | 22:24 |
| crdlb | the problem didn't exist in gutsy | 22:24 |
| crdlb | because gutsy didn't use xlib-xcb | 22:24 |
| h3sp4wn | crdlb: It existed during the development of gutsy | 22:24 |
| h3sp4wn | This has been going on since at least feisty | 22:25 |
| crdlb | that's something else unrelated then | 22:25 |
| crdlb | this specific problem is new to hardy | 22:25 |
| h3sp4wn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/87390 | 22:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 87390 in libxcb "c->xlib.lock" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:27 |
| h3sp4wn | Its the exact same thing | 22:27 |
| awen_ | night people... and thanks for info | 22:27 |
| bardyr | morning people | 22:28 |
| crdlb | those bug reports are not coming from stock systems | 22:28 |
| hyper_ch | hiho, how can I get KDE4 on hardy? I thought that would be installed by default | 22:28 |
| bardyr | hydrogen, sudo apt-get install kde4 ? | 22:29 |
| h3sp4wn | crdlb: Actually looking more closely they used libxcb for feisty then reverted for gutsy | 22:29 |
| hyper_ch | bardyr: ok ;) | 22:29 |
| h3sp4wn | But either way the problem has existed for ages and I have been affected by it for almost as long | 22:29 |
| hyper_ch | bardyr: btw, I just went to the restricted driver manager, it said a python lib is required. Is there a reason that one is not installed by default? | 22:29 |
| bardyr | hyper_ch, its and early alpha release? | 22:30 |
| bardyr | idk | 22:30 |
| bardyr | hydrogen, kubuntu? | 22:30 |
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| hyper_ch | bardyr: I know :) but it tells you once you go to the system settings... so I was just curious | 22:31 |
| bardyr | hyper_ch, it should be installed by default and probably going to | 22:31 |
| crdlb | h3sp4wn: there are many problems with the same symptoms :) | 22:32 |
| h3sp4wn | crdlb: That is the exact same problem | 22:32 |
| crdlb | hardy is the first ubuntu release to compile libX11 against libxcb | 22:33 |
| h3sp4wn | Feisty did | 22:33 |
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| hyper_ch | well, I installed now kde4 but how do I run it? | 22:35 |
| bardyr | hyper_ch, logout and there will be and option under session when you login | 22:36 |
| bardyr | i think | 22:36 |
| hyper_ch | bardyr: nothing there :( | 22:36 |
| hyper_ch | bardyr: I did install kde4 with aptitude... but that fetched only very little | 22:36 |
| pvandewyngaerde | i installed from svn, and i update daily | 22:37 |
| bardyr | pvandewyngaerde, i dont know if i should use kde4 or wait to kde 4.1 | 22:38 |
| pvandewyngaerde | depends, if you want stable/polished stay with 3.5 | 22:40 |
| h3sp4wn | hyper_ch: try - dpkg -S startkde | 22:40 |
| DanaG | WARNING **: Given device '/dev/mmcblk0p1' is not a volume or a drive. | 23:20 |
| DanaG | WTF? | 23:20 |
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