=== andreas is now known as andreasn === andreas is now known as andreasn [18:45] _MMA_: http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/ [18:45] The trends from 2006 are funny too. [18:46] * _MMA_ looks. [18:47] _MMA_: http://www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk/article/8-web-cliches-of-2006 [18:48] Sadly, the trends of 2006 are still a mainstay in most of those damn mocks. [18:48] "#6 Wet Floor Effect" [18:48] lol [19:00] dang! ubuntu should so have a mascot!! [19:21] LOL [19:21] thorwil: Rather interesting though. [19:23] troy_s: we could depict it standing on a wet floor with a nice gradient in the background. it should have a weird name [19:24] lol [19:24] lol [19:24] thorwil: Wait, we already have much of that. [19:24] * thorwil thinks platypus [19:27] thorwil: http://www.stepinsidedesign.com/STEPMagazine/Article/28586 [19:27] thorwil: and 2007 - http://www.stepinsidedesign.com/STEPMagazine/Article/28730 [19:27] some rather amazing works in the 2k7 summary [19:30] * thorwil looks at pictures and can't be bothered to read [19:31] amazing palette on the [19:31] 2nd page of 2007 -- the 'styling' category. [19:31] retro palette [19:32] orange and blue. [19:32] troy_s: the wine bottle makes me think that area has something we might want [19:32] thorwil: From 2k6? [19:32] thorwil: That one? [19:33] http://assets.stepinsidedesign.com/stepicons/14278.jpg [19:33] thorwil: There are three pages to the 2k6 summary -- scroll down too. [19:33] thorwil: Yes... that 2d flat illustration look [19:33] thorwil: has been around in various 'flavors' for a couple of years now. [19:33] thorwil: Not limited to variations into DIY / Grunge / etc. [19:34] thorwil: There was a reference I sourced out for u2 a while ago... let me see if I can find it. [19:34] troy_s: not just that. rather the grown quality aspect [19:34] thorwil: It completely successfully embraced an earthy palette, 2d illustration, and a victorian elegance. [19:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubun2design/u2Reference/u2OfficialDesignGuidelines [19:35] scroll down to darling room [19:35] I'll try to find the real link [19:35] troy_s: i only recently stumbled over u2 in launchpad. what happened? [19:36] thorwil: Well I work in a demanding career and I ended up getting rolled into a few projects that demanded my attention -- namely Fluxbuntu and then Mythbuntu (which more or less rolled away) [19:36] thorwil: I'll probably hit away at it again sooner rather than later. [19:37] troy_s: so you're the one and only driving force, despite a list of members? [19:38] thorwil: Actually, much of my output early going was steered along with a collaboration with a few other folks with design degrees. [19:38] thorwil: The reality is that in general, people of the sort I was hoping to attract are deadly busy. [19:38] thorwil: As I have been of late. [19:38] thorwil: (As an aside, that hammerpress design site has some amazing work (the site that the darling room was sourced from) [19:52] troy_s: i wonder if a project at some design academy could be initiated to get students to work on theming :) [19:52] thorwil: The idea has been brought up before. I think it is a wonderful idea, that said, [19:52] thorwil: It is problematic if the actual fundamental 'show stopper' issues can't be addressed. [19:52] yeah [19:53] thorwil: Being the nature of figuring out where to take a design. What audience, what communication goal / concept that works towards getting that audience emotionally attached to the 'product', and what pattern to follow with regards to the execution of that. [19:54] thorwil: I think the idea in and of itself is brilliant. [19:55] thorwil: You immediately get access to people who are 1) Knowledgeable 2) Interested 3) Guided by knowledgeable folks 4) Plentiful (given say, a standard lecture styled class size) [19:55] exactly [19:56] troy_s: but i don't have the connections, and if i had, i wouldn't feel well until the things you mentioned are cleared up [19:56] so we stay where we are [19:56] thorwil: Exactly! [19:57] thorwil: I could probably wrangle up a few 'high ups' at a few art schools / universities, but that again requires that those issues were 'set'. [19:57] thorwil: I don't know the interest factor. I would suspect there might be some very deep interest from say, an particular core course. [19:58] could be a great project regarding branding, even corporate identity [19:59] thorwil: Well I personally would like to see where someone would take it given that sort of group scenario. [20:00] thorwil: It would make for at least a finished implementation -- of course it would also require some capable folks to be a liaison between the 'tech' and the 'ideas'. [20:00] thorwil: Given a free discussion of constraints versus desire, I don't see why it couldn't work. [20:00] ack [20:00] ack? [20:01] acknowledged :) [20:01] ah lol. not hip enough. sorry. [20:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACK [20:02] Weird -- I keep clicking the 'get mail' button to look for julien's daily update. [20:02] It's not there. [20:03] never noticed a pattern [20:03] lol [20:04] a strong believe in democracy, collaboration and equal participation is ... cute [20:05] thorwil: Sad. [20:05] thorwil: It is exactly more or less where we end up now. [20:06] thorwil: File a bug against a given thing and push everything towards a middle grey sh*teness. [20:06] I rather gave up when I read the post that said something about funding. [20:06] troy_s: say, how many on the current active list members were around when that much blogged artwork rollback happened? [20:07] Good design / art / presentation has _nothing_ to do with money thrown at a project. [20:07] If it did, Microsoft's would be stunning for Vista. It certainly isn't (in various capacities). [20:07] nah, don't go black and white [20:07] thorwil: Can't say. [20:07] thorwil: I don't think there is a way to compare active list members to other elements. [20:08] thorwil: I know a few are still reading the list (as I chat with some) [20:08] thorwil: There are about 5-10 who are greatly enjoying the irony of the situation. [20:08] heh [20:09] the list must be good for something, and if it is entertainment [20:10] thorwil: Well it is also a good barometer of numbers - as well as Launchpad's team membership. [21:40] it... measures... pressure? [22:01] BHSPitLappy: A barometer of 'interest' you fecker. [22:01] don't you mean a meter of interest [22:02] you can't say like, "a thermometer of speed" or something [22:02] measure of interest [22:42] BHSPitLappy: It is used quite often outside of that specific realm. "performance often is used as a barometer for global economic health" "... as a barometer of global health because Australia's exports are seen as ..." [22:42] BHSPitLappy: (Taken from a quick google) [22:48] troy_s, they're talking about the pressure imposed by global health :P [22:55] lol