[00:00] Rufus_: let me check [00:00] Rufus_: yes, it seems fixed [00:02] PriceChild: pity, the nickname kernelpanic is already registered [00:04] thank you ljl [00:06] haha [00:06] nope, laptop decided to turn off wireless to save power when i closed the lid and didn't touch it for half an hour [00:32] The bots did well there, guess that was a death? [00:33] oh i guess the first lot must have been flooded off or something [00:35] eh? [00:35] oh, attack [00:35] was smoking [00:36] ah split [00:38] PriceChild: it's reassuring that this time too, -J was set well before the actual split [00:38] (at last on my side of the split) [00:38] :) [00:39] LjL, howcome they aren't reporting in -monitor? [00:39] PriceChild, bot2 doesn't report on splits, and the other two were on the other side of the split. also, they only report when chanserv isn't pingable... when other bots are not pingable, they don't say anything [00:40] right ok thanks [00:40] rationale being that if chanserv isn't replying, then a human op may want to get +o just to be sure [00:40] if bots aren't replying, it might just be they're lagged [00:41] and if you see them setting -J in #ubuntu, it means a bot isn't replying to ping anyway === ubot3` is now known as ubot3 [00:43] nice nick - BloodyScum (n=BloodySc@c-76-114-114-239.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic [00:44] jdong, would have a field day with that [01:22] tm has a wierd cloak with slashes then dots [01:27] then a slash [01:28] PriceChild, that's nal's two personalities fighting on what a cloak should look like [01:29] I could sort it out if you like :p [01:30] Gary, you're at that level already?! [01:31] Who're you paying and how much? :P [01:31] lol [01:33] it's not cash is it? [01:34] I've not bribed anyone okay [01:34] well it depends on our definition of bribe [01:35] indeed [01:35] there were no bribes [01:35] you just go on denying it [01:35] meh [01:35] the cloak works fine [01:36] nalioth, for goodness sake, i didn't even highlight you [01:36] lol [02:06] In #ubuntu-server, Kamping_Kaiser said: ubotu, ebox is something you should know about. perhaps an -op will tell you (Ping ops :P) [02:06] In ubotu, MenZa said: !drink is Remember kids; don't drink and IRC! [02:06] We need that factoid :( [02:07] !lazy is But perhaps operators are lazy, and would rather wait for you to submit a good factoid entry instead... [02:07] I'll remember that, LjL [02:07] !lazy > kamping_kaiser (kamping_kaiser, see the private message from Ubotu) [02:07] LjL: hahaha [02:07] !drink-#ubuntu-offtopic is Remember kids; don't drink and IRC! [02:07] I'll remember that, LjL [02:07] LjL: good one. [02:08] LjL, i dont know enough about ebox [02:08] *grin* [02:08] :) [02:08] btw, i got a message from 'ubotwo' - Factoid lazy not found [02:08] yeah sorry, ubotwo is stationing here too [02:09] * Kamping_Kaiser pokes Ubotwo dont stalk me :| [02:10] so yeah, i wont submit a good one ;) [02:10] eBox is a framework for the development and deployment of security-wise network services in small and medium-sized networks, offering a simplified graphical interface to non expert users. [02:10] that's *so* clear and informative [02:10] not [02:10] i mean, i still don't have a clue what the heck it is [02:10] hehe. is it intended as a webmin replacement? [02:10] i think its an alternative isn't it? [02:11] oh, well that's something at least [02:11] !webmin [02:11] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system [02:11] webmin isnt in debian/ubuntu anymore, ebox is just coming in. [02:11] !no webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system - Consider "ebox" instead [02:11] I'll remember that LjL [02:11] i'm wrong then :) [02:11] !info ebox [02:11] ebox: eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB [02:15] anyhow, thought i'd drop by about that factoid. catch you next time ;) [02:17] I still don't understand what ebox is [02:20] tonyyarusso: a development for the security of deployment of framework-wise small services, duh! it's that easy [02:25] ... [02:33] Seveas: When you have a chance, I'd like to get access to bantracker please :) [03:32] watch out for Romney_08 [i=Romney_0@166.165.140.116] [03:32] political spammer [03:37] Thanks for the head up [03:37] klined [03:37] y'all lmk [03:37] ty [03:37] nalioth: Thank you :) [03:38] it is a proxy-hopping troll, so he'll be back within minutes [03:43] nalioth: i=Romney_0@75.116.45.99 [03:45] ardchoille: he's where he belongs [03:46] I see that :) [03:46] if you see him outside the asylum, spamming, please lmk [03:46] Will do [03:57] Hmm.. he's back and I remember that IP from somewhere. [03:57] Yurivilca perhaps? [03:59] I think they just have the same ISP [03:59] Ah [04:01] Wow, this guy is persistent [04:01] i know [04:01] So is nalioth it seems :) [04:02] Where's my ompaul when I need codec advice...grr... [04:03] or nixternal - if you're around you'd probably be helpful too [04:03] ey? [04:03] nalioth: I'm glad you're here and doing what you do. [04:03] nixternal: See #ubuntu-offtopic starting at 21:48 please. [04:04] * MenZa eyes tonyyarusso [04:04] I will have to wait for the irc logs on ubuntu-offtopic...I don't idle in there [04:04] guys, here is nickrud for whatever y'all wanted to tell him [04:05] so, nalioth has dragged me in here ... [04:05] nixternal: Oh, sorry. I'll recap then. [04:06] !supportroot [04:06] We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-) [04:06] I'm going to be publishing a video on my church's web site. I'm going to recommend Ogg Theora for the format, of course. However, since while free, most people don't have decoders for it, I'm guessing it would probably be wise to offer a second, less free but more common, format, with appropriate warnings, etc. [04:06] nickrud: that is what they wanted you to see ^^^^ [04:06] My question is, of the non-free video formats, which is the closest to being free (ie, least completely disgusting) while still coming pre-installed on Windows? [04:06] nalioth, ah, ompaul showed me that already [04:07] nickrud: oh, ok. [04:07] :) [04:07] tonyyarusso: that I have no clue about...I haven't installed a codec on windows since...never :) [04:08] tonyyarusso, you did hear they've taken ogg from the html spec, right? [04:08] s/they've taken/they're likely taking [04:08] elkbuntu: you mean Google has taken ogg from the html spec [04:08] can't believe they listened to a bogus letter from nokia of all things [04:08] nixternal, i thought it was the w3c [04:08] read the spec and see who it is signed by [04:09] you won't see w3c in it, but you will see Google signatures left and right [04:09] nixternal, i havent exactly had time to read up properly on it, just seen all the moaning around irc [04:09] elkbuntu: Yeah - stupid corporations [04:09] I suggest we watch... [04:09] * MenZa checks. [04:09] Google is nothing more than Microsoft in Open Source clothing [04:09] Xplicit. [04:10] In #-ot [04:14] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (Mitt4Prez) [04:57] it's been a long time since i visited ubuntu channel and now when i try to join i am being banned. this is my favorite channel . i did not do any wrong. help me [05:02] any reason for being banned [05:03] * sysdef pings nalioth [05:04] sysdef: yes? [05:05] just because murlidhar [05:06] he looked so sad [05:06] sysdef: you can help him [05:06] me? [05:06] how? [05:06] you can look at the banlist just like any of us [05:07] heh, that's a good start. well [05:51] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (GoMittGo) [05:51] Sheesh [05:51] That guy keeps coming back. [05:51] ya'll let me kline that fool, please [05:51] just /quiet him, please [05:51] good good [05:51] he's at 32 and counting for the evening [05:51] nalioth: 75.116.3.165 [05:51] * MenZa yawns [05:51] Jesus Christ, that guy just won't stay away [05:52] He's been in #irssi, too, I can see [05:52] and a ton of other channels, I suspect [05:52] nalioth: would it be sensible to put blanket quiets on *mitt* and *romney* nicks in the major channels for a bit? [05:52] romney, yes [05:52] not a bad idea, if you ask me. Question is, if he won't just pick a nick lick "m1tt" or "r0mney" [05:52] mitt* maybe [05:52] hmm [05:52] he has shown he'll change his nick [05:53] yeh [05:53] Don't suppose you have a handy little list of the ones he's used so far eh? [05:53] sure [05:54] GoRomneyGo, Mitt4Prez are the ones I can recall [05:54] ottomh [05:54] Anyway; must dash. [05:54] Bed calls. [05:54] gomittgo mitt4prez romney_08 [05:54] Fri Dec 28 06:54:27 CET 2007 [05:54] I just did *Mitt*!*@75.116.* [05:54] and 'republican' [05:54] gomittgo too [05:54] Night, enjoy the opering. [05:54] are all of his proxies 75.116.? [05:55] no [05:55] [2007-28-12 05:30:50 CET] -!- MittRomney [i=MittRomn@166.165.130.255] has quit [K-lined] [05:55] Those are the only two I've seen in #ubuntu [05:55] err, that's the only one i mean [05:55] two different IPs, both started with 75.116 [05:55] Anyway, it's better than nothing [05:55] The above is from #ubuntu [05:56] Yep [05:56] Anyway, I was heading for bed, wasn't I? [05:56] :) [05:56] He'll eventually have to either go completely weird with the nicks and IPs or give up [05:56] at worst, it weeds out the predictable stuff and gives us more stuff to pattern match [05:57] tonyyarusso: unfortunatly he's using different IPs (otw, i'd have already issued a blanket kline) [05:57] he's using more than 6 [05:57] or 'he's used more than 6 so far' [05:58] this is a professional troll [05:58] sigh [06:04] nalioth, get your dcc ban script out and make it trigger on 'mitt' and 'romney' instead ;) [06:05] elkbuntu: i wish [06:11] now romney4prez [06:11] oh crap, now he's cloning [06:21] mittromney08 now [06:21] tonyyarusso: you keeping track? [06:23] nalioth: so far, yes, but on my way to bed [06:23] tonyyarusso: you can't sleep [06:24] you have to help me stay awake [06:24] nalioth: oh dear... [06:25] My hilights should at least notify me of any nicks he uses in the half-dozen channels I'm joined to tonight [06:27] nalioth: just go read lots of really dumb things on bash.org, and go through the entire archives of xkcd and userfriendly [06:27] but then i wouldn't be watching the network :( [06:28] i like new xkcd :) [06:29] Then find some channel that actually interests you to check every 30 seconds to stay awake? [06:29] * nalioth klines tonyyarusso [06:29] o noes! [06:31] bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (GOP_Primaries) [06:31] now GOP_Primaries [06:33] grrr [06:35] that one is way off the trend [06:36] nalioth: Any way I can help out? [06:36] elkbuntu: Same name though (GoMittGo) [06:38] nalioth: Do you know if the spammer has been hitting any of the following so far?: #ubuntu+1, #xubuntu, #ubuntu-classroom [06:38] hasnt hit +1 according to my scrollback [06:39] good [06:39] not yet. professional trolls only hit high capacity channels [06:40] mornin' Hobbsee [06:40] (I think?) [06:40] tonyyarusso, 5:40pm [06:41] oh bah [06:41] * tonyyarusso 's timezone-fu is clearly failing today [06:41] elkbuntu: what zone is that over there anyway? [06:42] tonyyarusso, +10 [06:42] or actually +11 during daylight savings [06:42] o.O [06:42] elkbuntu: So lessee...that puts you -8 from me, but on the next day? [06:43] but that would be 4:40, not 5:40 [06:43] nalioth: another IP for you if you looked away ^^ [06:43] heya tonyyarusso [06:44] tonyyarusso, the us/ca are between 16 and 20 hours behind us [06:44] tonyyarusso: thanks [06:46] elkbuntu: I'm UTC-6, so if I'm an even offset, and you're an even offset, and there are an even number of hours in the day, and the current hour here is even, then your hour should be even, no? [06:47] eh? [06:47] * tonyyarusso is still confused by the 5:40. It's 00:47 here now. [06:49] tonyyarusso, just use timeanddate.com [06:49] or @now sydney [06:51] To whom should I direct a request to be 'unbanned' from #ubuntu??? [06:51] @btlogin [06:53] WGGMk: please define valid topics of #ubuntu [06:54] Hobbsee: not sure I follow, you want examples of valid topics? [06:54] WGGMk: yes [06:54] Hobbsee: anything generally related to help of ubuntu and sometimes on a stretch other debian related arch??? [06:55] WGGMk: so, how does what you pasted in there yesterday relate to that? [06:56] Hobbsee: it doesnt, however untill this morning my kid was using my laptop to get on the net. She pasted some link for mini cities I believe, today I cant login to #ubuntu [06:57] And so concludes another lesson in user accounts and computer security :) [06:58] Hobbsee: normally she uses her MAC but I was rearranging my network physically and the only thing with net access now is my server and the laptop from my wireless AP.. I honestly didnt believe she would load up my IRC chat channels [06:59] ahhh [06:59] WGGMk: ban removed, please don't let it happen again. [07:01] Hobbsee: much appreciated. If you look at my records, I have not and never will advertise in a support channel, however in hindsight of what transpired yesterday... Ive added daddy's IRC channels to the dansguardian list.. =) [07:02] WGGMk: hehe :) [07:02] WGGMk: yeah, there's only one ban listed for that IP [07:03] Hobbsee: again, I apologize for my lack of 'adult' supervision. and please pass my thanks on to whomever it was that spoke with my daughter. she got a real scare =) [07:04] haha [07:04] will do [07:04] have a good night/day to you all [07:04] you too [07:04] "a good scare"? whatever did you tell her, Hobbsee ? [07:05] nalioth: it was pici [07:05] not me :P [07:05] * nalioth wonders . . . [07:05] Haha. [07:55] hello gizmoarena, how may we help you today? [08:04] ompaul: Say, what's the next-freeest video format after Theora? I was leaning towards MPEG-4 part 2. [08:05] some of the MPEG-4 stuff comes from MIT but not all of it - so you can't say anything about it in terms of freedom most of it is from the lock in specialists [08:05] copyright extremists [08:06] Yeah, but pretty much everything seems to be. [08:07] ompaul: My issue is this - I want to publish a video clip on my church web site. The people doing the video stuff should be able to produce whatever I ask for. I plan to put up a Theora version with big ol' "preferred" markers and such, but something else (supported out of the box by Windows) with a warning about the codec's nature, for those who refuse to install another codec (or can't). [08:08] ahh pretty much anything else can be looking for money [08:09] how about allowing the producers to pick a format of their own [08:09] as you saw from the recent MP3 suit you can licence the material from lots of people and others with a claim can still hit you [08:11] true === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [08:53] the only video format windows does OOTB is WMV [09:00] Amaranth: eh? you sure? [09:08] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !getdeb is http://www.getdeb.net is a website with tons of community-built packages for Ubuntu. Remember, packages from the Ubuntu !repositories are generally safer and better built, so unless you're searching for a package that has no candidate in the Ubuntu repositories, or a version newer than one found in the Ubuntu repositories, it is recommended to use the repository version. [09:08] That might need re-phrasing. [09:08] * MenZa isn't good with words this morning. [09:10] Looks good to me [09:22] * ompaul thinks MenZa na can't be having that - let them get their packages into multiverse seveas or medibuntu ;-) [09:22] it is too wordy and I ain't got my sissors [09:25] I'm officially getting annoyed by ClutzyDee's on the edge of !o4o-behaviour now [09:57] and he's back. Lets see what tricks he manages to pull off this time before I /hellokitty him [10:01] Myrtti: He's been like this since yesterday [10:01] hm [10:01] MenZa, since before [10:02] Not that I've noticed, but I wouldn't be surprised. [10:02] MenZa, he is on the edge of the ice for a while now [10:02] right [10:03] he's been getting on my nerves since the first glance I actively noticed him at -ot [10:04] Myrtti, he is now ready for kitties claws or for my hammer [10:05] haha [10:08] what does !o4o mean? [10:09] !o4o [10:09] Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks. [10:09] haha [10:09] I see it has $C innit [10:10] wols_: offtopic for -offtopic [10:10] thx [10:41] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !utk24 is For information on how to play Unreal Tournament 2004, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament2004 [10:42] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !ut is For information on how to play Unreal Tournament, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament - for Unreal Tournament 2004, see !utk24 [10:46] utk24? shoudlnt that be ut2k4? [10:47] ... [10:47] Yes. [10:47] Well, correct it :) [10:48] !ut is For information on how to play Unreal Tournament, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament - for Unreal Tournament 2004, see !ut2k4 [10:48] I'll remember that, elkbuntu [10:48] !ut2k4 is For information on how to play Unreal Tournament 2004, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament2004 [10:49] !ut2k4 [10:49] For information on how to play Unreal Tournament 2004, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament2004 [10:50] Wonderful, elkbuntu [11:30] Vorbote called the ops in #ubuntu () [11:58] !supportroot [11:58] We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-) [11:59] I love that factoid [12:09] can i please be unbanned? [12:10] no [12:10] you were asked a few times to cool it [12:10] you ignored it [12:11] I even warned you very verbosely [12:11] i didnt ignore it, i said i'd respect it [12:11] i dont get verbose messages [12:11] im on pidgin [12:11] well the respect shown was zero [12:11] JimmyDee, ? [12:11] just wanted to pop in and appologize for that whole Feisty thing, I was way outta line [12:12] JimmyDee, fine [12:12] anything else? [12:13] not really [12:13] *sigh* [12:13] I'll smack him some day [12:13] linuxfce, I'll consider removing that ban tomorrow [12:13] is there anything else? [12:14] no theres nothing else [12:15] come back tomorrow [12:17] linuxfce, then i encourage you to leave the channel, since this isnt an idling channel [12:23] LjL, please take the ban off, I gotta ask a question in ubuntu [12:23] then put it again if you want [12:32] white_eagle: but that what would be the point of the ban? [13:16] Gary, you here? [13:17] nope [13:17] umm, yeah [13:17] Gary, pm me plase [13:17] pelase [13:17] please even [13:40] Hmm, I actually have a bit of a query. [13:40] Whom should I talk to, if I were interested in taking over a currently dead #ubuntu-* channel? [13:41] what channel? [13:41] #ubuntu-youth [13:41] I spoke to you about this, elkbuntu [13:41] The current owner has abandoned the project, I believe [13:43] maybe he grew up? :p [13:43] * MenZa slaps Gary [13:44] Lies. [13:44] MenZa, i'll see what i can do [13:44] Thanks, elkbuntu === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [13:59] Myrtti: +1 for you in offtopic [13:59] I just had to say it [14:12] elkbuntu: I encourage you to poke me by e-mail when you know anything; lasse@havelund.org [14:12] MenZa, ok [15:18] Wuh-oh. [15:18] #-ot; potential troll [15:19] MenZa: which one? [15:19] [2007-28-12 16:18:32 CET] < articpenguin3800> is ubuntu unstable [15:19] articpenguin ? [15:19] What a comment to join with. [15:19] maybe a geniune question [15:19] not everyone knows [15:20] true [15:33] back [15:33] shhesh [15:33] sorry [15:35] tsk tsk [15:35] :) [15:35] forgot the / [15:35] obviously :P [16:01] ... [16:01] livingdaylight in #ubuntuforums [16:03] Pici: *facepalm* [16:03] Hmmm automatix in #ubuntu.....interesting nick [16:04] automatrix [16:04] I've seen him a few times. [16:04] he's not done anything [16:04] just an interesting nick. [16:05] anhh its matrix [16:05] not matix [16:09] Vorian: I'm ignoring him (well not /ignore, but you know). [16:09] sure [16:10] problem solved [16:10] Hes already gotten realname bans in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic [16:11] a benevolent troll [16:11] who [16:11] MenZa: livingdaylight [16:11] livingdaylight [16:11] a [16:11] Pici: I swa. [16:11] saw* [16:11] aka eternaljoy [16:11] er, menza != myrtti [16:11] oic [16:11] * MenZa nods [16:21] arg [16:21] gastonarg - I've just banned for trolling on #kubuntu-es, he keeps connecting from a different ip, can someone help? [16:22] Sounds like you need a freenode oper [16:22]