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Delviennealmcb I think i figured it out.. it wasnt ARP at all.. I was just having it go to a port and since the computer clears ARP cache I just have to make sure to route it to my external IP address with the mac address00:01
Delviennow i just wish i could test it from another network... no one has free wifi where i live.. course it could be the fact that I named my ESSID Virus_seed :P00:02
ewookoy!02:01
ewookdid ubuntu discontinue webmin as a package with the release of 7.10?02:01
Kamping_Kaiserhopefully :/02:03
ewookOo now why would you say that?02:04
Kamping_Kaiser!webmin02:04
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system02:04
ewooklol02:04
ewookthanks.02:04
Kamping_Kaiser"unexpected issues" usually meaning "serious breakage"02:04
Kamping_Kaiserheh. np.02:04
Kamping_Kaiser!box02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about box - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:04
Kamping_Kaiser!ebox02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ebox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:04
Kamping_Kaiserwell you should :@02:05
ewookreplacement?02:05
Kamping_Kaiserewook, i think thier trying to replace it with something called 'ebox'. look it up02:05
ewookguessed so :)02:05
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:05
ewooksee no issues with the current release right now tho.02:05
ewookI'll hold my tounge on that tho until I've touched everything that I can manage with it.02:06
Kamping_Kaiserubotu, ebox is something you should know about. perhaps an -op will tell you (Ping ops :P)02:06
ewookbut so far, so good. just confused since it didn't show up.02:06
ewook!teach ebox - replacement for webmin02:06
ewook^^02:06
ewooklol02:07
ewook03:06 <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:07
Kamping_Kaiserthe ops will deal with it02:07
ewookya. shame that they didn't include some notes in the package database regarding the discontinuance.02:07
ewookor did they?02:07
Kamping_Kaiserdont know. heh.02:08
ewook^^ . well, thanks for the info. oooh, by the way - whats the syntax  for the local language-flavor of the ubuntu-channels? cannot recall *_*02:09
Kamping_Kaiser-cc02:09
Kamping_Kaisereg -au, -de02:09
ewookaaah.02:09
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:10
ewookthanks again ;p02:10
Kamping_Kaisernp02:10
ewookoh.. since I'm acctually here. do you run apt as a cron-job?02:12
Kamping_Kaiseryeah. theres actually a package for it02:12
ewookit is? *_'02:13
Kamping_Kaisercron-apt - automatic update of packages using apt-get02:13
Kamping_Kaiserapticron - cron-script to mail impending apt updates02:13
Kamping_Kaiserdepending on what you want02:13
ewookfirst one ;p02:13
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:13
ewooka bit sad tho that they messed up the kernel with pae... generic one isn't really that fun to run.02:13
Kamping_Kaiserpae?02:14
ewooksomething to do with acpi02:15
Kamping_Kaiseroh02:15
ewookcannot recall. didn't have the energy to understand it. but got the fun stuff with cpu to old for kernel - panic thingy.02:16
ewooksolution - go generic-kernel.02:16
Kamping_Kaiserhopefully they fix it before the next release then02:16
ewookperhaps. or, low budget cpu's isn't to go for anymore ;p02:17
Kamping_KaiserI HATE USB02:17
Kamping_Kaiser*rant*02:17
Kamping_Kaisersorry. :|02:17
ewook*_*02:17
ewookwhy?02:17
ewookI love it ;P02:17
ewookno burning ports with disconnect/connect during running02:17
Kamping_Kaiserlots of reasons, including dying after copying 25gb~, or hammering the cpu with interupts02:18
ewookaaah. I only use it for HID's ;P02:18
ewookstorage goes with the ethernet ;p02:19
Kamping_Kaiserhehe02:19
Kamping_Kaiser*hugs ps2*02:19
ewook=/ my kvm's didn't like swapping between win32 boxes and linux-boxes and died all the time02:20
ewookdamn homebrew ps2 crap =/02:21
Kamping_Kaiser:(02:21
ewookmade a mess when I used the kvm instead of a ssh connection =/02:22
ewookall puters just screamed *_* . so - I moved it to a corner and use usb-kb and mouse between a couple of machines instead :)02:23
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:23
* Kamping_Kaiser thrashes his CPU :/02:23
Kamping_Kaisernot that you need to know that :p02:23
ewookwell, perhaps no - but got me quite interested in WHY ... :p02:24
Kamping_Kaiserhehe. building packages02:24
ewookoooh.02:25
ewookdoesn't using a package-manager kinda throws of that need? ;P02:25
Kamping_Kaisernot when you need customisations :)02:25
ewookaaaaaah02:26
ewookno, true ;p02:26
Kamping_Kaiser:p02:26
ewooka damn. time to kill some time sleepnig. laters.02:29
Kamping_Kaiserlater mate02:29
leonel!webmin03:02
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system - Consider "ebox" instead03:02
Burgundavialeonel: ?03:05
leonelBurgundavia: ??03:08
Burgundavialeonel: why did you pull up the webmind thing?03:09
leonel<ewook> did ubuntu discontinue webmin as a package with the release of 7.10?03:09
leoneland I remembered that  ...03:09
leonelthat's all03:09
Burgundaviaahh, right03:10
Kamping_Kaiser3 lines down03:11
Kamping_Kaiseror 4, if your client shows parts03:11
leonelI lost the net connection03:12
* Kamping_Kaiser also points out ewook has left ;)03:12
leonelplop ..03:12
Burgundaviayep, I got it03:14
* nealmcb sees life returning to the channel :-)03:18
Burgundaviahey nealmcb03:21
nealmcbBurgundavia: howdy!  it's fun to relax on the holidays :-)03:23
geniiHi ppl. I've needed to disable onboard nic, also had another in and then pulled it. Now on third. However instead of it being now eth0 since it's the solitary , it appears as eth2. I'd like to make it eth0 to ifconfig. Previously this would have been by putting a line in /etc/iftab specifying an ethX with a MAC, now I don't know where to set this.03:23
Kamping_Kaiser!z2503:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about z25 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:23
* genii sips a coffee03:23
Kamping_Kaiserbah. brb03:23
Kamping_Kaisergenii, <dpkg> methinks z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address.  The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules .  If you want the mappings to change, edit that file.  If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory.03:24
Burgundaviayep03:24
geniiKamping_Kaiser: OK I'll give it a shot03:24
Kamping_Kaiserlooks ike ubuntu users 75 not 25 (gutsy)03:25
geniiHmm must be 70-persistent-net.rules03:26
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders why the udev stuff is renamed and reordered03:26
nealmcbgenii: yeah03:26
geniiGot it, thanks03:27
nealmcb!udev03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
nealmcb!dev03:27
ubotuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment03:28
nealmcb:-)03:28
geniiWhat a hassle. Before just shuffle the ethX names in /etc/iftab03:28
Kamping_Kaiserdifferent file. its not that painful03:28
* genii shakes a fist at udev!03:28
geniiKamping_Kaiser: True, just not well documented03:29
nealmcbgenii: yeah, but as I understand it, getting plugable devices to work well required stuff like that03:29
Kamping_Kaisergenii, yeah. i only know from that factoid03:29
geniinealmcb: Well now I'll know for next time anyways :)03:29
geniiWell it would be good for removable adapters03:32
Kamping_Kaisersucks for swapping os/nic though03:32
geniiMultiple pcmcia, etc03:32
geniiKamping_Kaiser: Yes, was starting to piss me off actually <laughing now>03:33
Kamping_Kaiser:)03:33
=== Delvien_ is now known as Delvien
lifesfHi everyone; I need some help to mount; i've tried going through man pages a bit; the info on the internet has not been helpful so far... I am wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out how to mount a hdd on my present machine; and preferably so it can mount automatically each time the pc reboots.09:22
Kamping_Kaiserlifesf, give us some details - whats your release, whats the hard drive, what filesystem is it, internal or external drive? etc09:25
lifesfinternal NTFS Ubuntu 7.10 Server; running no GUI09:25
lifesfsata if that helps in any way :)09:26
Kamping_Kaisercan you run `ls /dev/ |grep sd` and `mount` and pastebin the output?09:27
lifesfwhat is pastebin?09:27
Kamping_Kaiser!tell lifesf about pastebin09:27
Kamping_Kaiseryou'll wind up with a  line that looks like this - /dev/sdc2       /mnt/ntfs            ntfs    defaults        0       2 - i just want to try and get the correct settings :)09:28
Kamping_Kaiser!ping09:29
ubotupong09:29
Kamping_Kaiseryour there.09:29
lifesfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49777/09:30
lifesfi'm where?09:31
lifesfhmm sry; i'm not that quick tonight09:31
Kamping_Kaiseri'm guessing sdb1 is your ntfs drive09:32
Kamping_Kaiserso run `sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs` (ntfs=whatever you want to reference the drive as)09:32
lifesfok; and if i want it to mount automatically when the pc boots?09:32
Kamping_Kaisergetting there. i want to make sure i have the right drive first09:33
Kamping_Kaiserdid you run that?09:33
Kamping_Kaiserthen run `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ntfs`09:33
lifesfntfs to anything i want?09:33
Kamping_Kaiseryou can call it /mnt/windows or /mnt/isos (for example)09:33
Kamping_Kaiserjust nothing with a space09:34
lifesfyup done both09:34
lifesfno error nothing09:35
lifesfi'll check the drive to verify data09:35
Kamping_Kaiserrun `ls /mnt/ntfs/`09:35
Kamping_Kaiserif it has what you hoped for, thats good ;)09:35
lifesfit does :D09:35
Kamping_Kaiserif it does, use `sudo sensible-editor /etc/fstab` to open the fstab file (filesystem table)09:35
Kamping_Kaiseradd a line like : /dev/sdb1       /mnt/ntfs         ntfs         defaults         0          0 to the bottom (perhaps with a comment # this is my ntfs drive)09:36
lifesfis sensible-editor a editor? because i'm still new and i use nano09:36
Kamping_Kaisersensible-editor uses the default editor - which i think is nano09:36
lifesfok09:38
lifesfexit and save?09:38
Kamping_Kaiseryep.09:38
lifesfoops wait... should i tab instead of spaces?09:38
Kamping_Kaisershouldnt matter09:38
lifesfalright09:38
Kamping_Kaisernow run `sudo umount /mnt/ntfs` (to unmount what we just mounted), then `sudo mount -a`09:38
lifesffuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/ntfs: No such file or directory09:39
lifesfFUSE mount point creation failed09:39
lifesfUnmounting /dev/sdb1 (Musique)09:39
Kamping_Kaiserthen `mount`. if you got no errors on those 3 commands, and you see /mnt/ntfs after you run `mount` your good to go :)09:39
Kamping_Kaiserdid you call it ntfs?09:39
lifesfok; i just changed my error in fstab and i tried mount -a again and it says: mount: unknown filesystem type 'musique'09:40
Kamping_Kaisershow me the line(s) you added to /etc/fstab09:41
lifesfi changed it sorry; i noticed the second "ntfs" was designing the "type" ijust changed it back to ntfs09:41
Kamping_Kaisercool09:42
lifesfmount -a gave no errors this time09:42
Kamping_Kaisernow 'mount'. does it show up in the list?09:42
lifesfif it saying: [/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/ntfs type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)] then yes09:43
Kamping_Kaiserlooks good.09:44
lifesf:)09:44
Kamping_Kaiseryou can pastebin the lot if you want me to double check, but i think your good to go :)09:44
lifesfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49779/09:44
Kamping_Kaiserbril. nice work :D09:45
lifesfYOU are the brilliant one :D09:45
Kamping_Kaiserhehe. nah.09:45
lifesfso this means; i boot reboot and everything will be good?09:45
Kamping_Kaiserthats what i expect09:45
lifesfPerfect :)09:45
Kamping_Kaiser:)09:46
lifesfThank you VERY much :)09:46
lifesfenjoy your night/day :)09:46
Kamping_Kaiserno problems. have fun :)09:46
pteague_workanybody know of a good web panel similar to whm/cpanel for ubuntu?16:31
Blazer11hello all16:58
Blazer11need help SunBlade 1500 Xorg, multi pci domain prob16:58
Blazer11ive been through all posts several times, it seems this was addressed in Fedora, im curious if one was to convert Fedora Xorg.rpm to .deb and instthis would work17:01
Blazer11where is everyone17:13
Blazer11circle jerking?17:14
Blazer11lol17:14
Blazer11out for coffee?17:14
MenZaIt might work, but it is /DEFINITELY/ not recommended.17:21
MenZa!alien | Blazer1117:21
ubotuBlazer11: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)17:21
Blazer11MenZa do u have any sug on a workaround ive been fighting with this, if i could backport to xfree86 that would do the trick17:22
MenZa!info xfree8617:23
ubotuPackage xfree86 does not exist in gutsy17:23
MenZahmm17:23
MenZa!find xfree8617:23
ubotuFound: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xfree86-driver-synaptics, xserver-xfree86, t1-xfree86-nonfree, ttf-xfree86-nonfree (and 1 others)17:23
MenZaxserver-xfree86 is available from the repos.17:23
Blazer11i think its the transition package?17:24
MenZaI'm not entirely sure what that is.17:25
Blazer11could i change something in sources list to install xfree86?17:26
Blazer11funny thing is i dont think gnome .deb package has support for xfree86 anymore17:29
kbrooksBlazer11, xfree86 -> xorg. xfree86 is gone17:45
kbrooksBlazer11, it has been superseded by xorg17:46
Blazer11debian sarge uses xfree86, i thought this would do the trick, but it hangs detecting cdrom during install17:46
kbrooksBlazer11, this is #ubuntu-server not #debian17:47
kbrooksBlazer11, we cannot help you here17:47
Blazer11I know im using Ubuntu17:48
kbrooksBlazer11, so why do you mention debian sarge? and gnome is X server agnostic17:48
Blazer11just making comparison, what was the last v of Ubuntu that used xfree8617:49
kbrooks!info warty xserver-free8617:49
ubotuPackage warty does not exist in gutsy17:49
kbrooks!info xserver-xfree86 warty17:49
ubotuxserver-xfree86: transitional package for moving from XFree86 to X.Org. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB17:50
kbrooks!info xserver-xfree86 hoary17:50
kbrooksBlazer11, hm unsure17:50
Blazer11i think warty was the last make, but how could i get a hold of the install images?17:51
kbrooksBlazer11, but use packages.ubuntu.com to look for warty hoary edgy dapper gutsy (i might have left out a distribution)17:51
kbrooksand the package xserver-xfree8617:51
Blazer11warty not on the list17:53
zylstra555Hello, I am running an Apache2 server with PHP, MySQL, Perl, and the basics installed. (And of course, the Ubuntu Server OS). I have a forum, and I would like to get the GD Library installed. How do I do this?22:25

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