[00:01] <Delvien> nealmcb I think i figured it out.. it wasnt ARP at all.. I was just having it go to a port and since the computer clears ARP cache I just have to make sure to route it to my external IP address with the mac address
[00:02] <Delvien> now i just wish i could test it from another network... no one has free wifi where i live.. course it could be the fact that I named my ESSID Virus_seed :P
[02:01] <ewook> oy!
[02:01] <ewook> did ubuntu discontinue webmin as a package with the release of 7.10?
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hopefully :/
[02:04] <ewook> Oo now why would you say that?
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !webmin
[02:04] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[02:04] <ewook> lol
[02:04] <ewook> thanks.
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> "unexpected issues" usually meaning "serious breakage"
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. np.
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !box
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about box - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ebox
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> well you should :@
[02:05] <ewook> replacement?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ewook, i think thier trying to replace it with something called 'ebox'. look it up
[02:05] <ewook> guessed so :)
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:05] <ewook> see no issues with the current release right now tho.
[02:06] <ewook> I'll hold my tounge on that tho until I've touched everything that I can manage with it.
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu, ebox is something you should know about. perhaps an -op will tell you (Ping ops :P)
[02:06] <ewook> but so far, so good. just confused since it didn't show up.
[02:06] <ewook> !teach ebox - replacement for webmin
[02:06] <ewook> ^^
[02:07] <ewook> lol
[02:07] <ewook> 03:06 <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> the ops will deal with it
[02:07] <ewook> ya. shame that they didn't include some notes in the package database regarding the discontinuance.
[02:07] <ewook> or did they?
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont know. heh.
[02:09] <ewook> ^^ . well, thanks for the info. oooh, by the way - whats the syntax  for the local language-flavor of the ubuntu-channels? cannot recall *_*
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> -cc
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> eg -au, -de
[02:09] <ewook> aaah.
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:10] <ewook> thanks again ;p
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[02:12] <ewook> oh.. since I'm acctually here. do you run apt as a cron-job?
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeah. theres actually a package for it
[02:13] <ewook> it is? *_'
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> cron-apt - automatic update of packages using apt-get
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> apticron - cron-script to mail impending apt updates
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> depending on what you want
[02:13] <ewook> first one ;p
[02:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:13] <ewook> a bit sad tho that they messed up the kernel with pae... generic one isn't really that fun to run.
[02:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> pae?
[02:15] <ewook> something to do with acpi
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh
[02:16] <ewook> cannot recall. didn't have the energy to understand it. but got the fun stuff with cpu to old for kernel - panic thingy.
[02:16] <ewook> solution - go generic-kernel.
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hopefully they fix it before the next release then
[02:17] <ewook> perhaps. or, low budget cpu's isn't to go for anymore ;p
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> I HATE USB
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> *rant*
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry. :|
[02:17] <ewook> *_*
[02:17] <ewook> why?
[02:17] <ewook> I love it ;P
[02:17] <ewook> no burning ports with disconnect/connect during running
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> lots of reasons, including dying after copying 25gb~, or hammering the cpu with interupts
[02:18] <ewook> aaah. I only use it for HID's ;P
[02:19] <ewook> storage goes with the ethernet ;p
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> *hugs ps2*
[02:20] <ewook> =/ my kvm's didn't like swapping between win32 boxes and linux-boxes and died all the time
[02:21] <ewook> damn homebrew ps2 crap =/
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[02:22] <ewook> made a mess when I used the kvm instead of a ssh connection =/
[02:23] <ewook> all puters just screamed *_* . so - I moved it to a corner and use usb-kb and mouse between a couple of machines instead :)
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:23]  * Kamping_Kaiser thrashes his CPU :/
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> not that you need to know that :p
[02:24] <ewook> well, perhaps no - but got me quite interested in WHY ... :p
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. building packages
[02:25] <ewook> oooh.
[02:25] <ewook> doesn't using a package-manager kinda throws of that need? ;P
[02:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> not when you need customisations :)
[02:26] <ewook> aaaaaah
[02:26] <ewook> no, true ;p
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> :p
[02:29] <ewook> a damn. time to kill some time sleepnig. laters.
[02:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
[03:02] <leonel> !webmin
[03:02] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system - Consider "ebox" instead
[03:05] <Burgundavia> leonel: ?
[03:08] <leonel> Burgundavia: ??
[03:09] <Burgundavia> leonel: why did you pull up the webmind thing?
 did ubuntu discontinue webmin as a package with the release of 7.10?
[03:09] <leonel> and I remembered that  ...
[03:09] <leonel> that's all
[03:10] <Burgundavia> ahh, right
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> 3 lines down
[03:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> or 4, if your client shows parts
[03:12] <leonel> I lost the net connection
[03:12]  * Kamping_Kaiser also points out ewook has left ;)
[03:12] <leonel> plop ..
[03:14] <Burgundavia> yep, I got it
[03:18]  * nealmcb sees life returning to the channel :-)
[03:21] <Burgundavia> hey nealmcb
[03:23] <nealmcb> Burgundavia: howdy!  it's fun to relax on the holidays :-)
[03:23] <genii> Hi ppl. I've needed to disable onboard nic, also had another in and then pulled it. Now on third. However instead of it being now eth0 since it's the solitary , it appears as eth2. I'd like to make it eth0 to ifconfig. Previously this would have been by putting a line in /etc/iftab specifying an ethX with a MAC, now I don't know where to set this.
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> !z25
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about z25 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:23]  * genii sips a coffee
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> bah. brb
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> genii, <dpkg> methinks z25 is as of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address.  The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules .  If you want the mappings to change, edit that file.  If you don't want udev to touch your interface names, remove that file and z45_persistent-net-generator.rules in the same directory.
[03:24] <Burgundavia> yep
[03:24] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: OK I'll give it a shot
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks ike ubuntu users 75 not 25 (gutsy)
[03:26] <genii> Hmm must be 70-persistent-net.rules
[03:26]  * Kamping_Kaiser wonders why the udev stuff is renamed and reordered
[03:26] <nealmcb> genii: yeah
[03:27] <genii> Got it, thanks
[03:27] <nealmcb> !udev
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <nealmcb> !dev
[03:28] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[03:28] <nealmcb> :-)
[03:28] <genii> What a hassle. Before just shuffle the ethX names in /etc/iftab
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> different file. its not that painful
[03:28]  * genii shakes a fist at udev!
[03:29] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: True, just not well documented
[03:29] <nealmcb> genii: yeah, but as I understand it, getting plugable devices to work well required stuff like that
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> genii, yeah. i only know from that factoid
[03:29] <genii> nealmcb: Well now I'll know for next time anyways :)
[03:32] <genii> Well it would be good for removable adapters
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> sucks for swapping os/nic though
[03:32] <genii> Multiple pcmcia, etc
[03:33] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes, was starting to piss me off actually <laughing now>
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:22] <lifesf> Hi everyone; I need some help to mount; i've tried going through man pages a bit; the info on the internet has not been helpful so far... I am wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out how to mount a hdd on my present machine; and preferably so it can mount automatically each time the pc reboots.
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> lifesf, give us some details - whats your release, whats the hard drive, what filesystem is it, internal or external drive? etc
[09:25] <lifesf> internal NTFS Ubuntu 7.10 Server; running no GUI
[09:26] <lifesf> sata if that helps in any way :)
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you run `ls /dev/ |grep sd` and `mount` and pastebin the output?
[09:27] <lifesf> what is pastebin?
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell lifesf about pastebin
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'll wind up with a  line that looks like this - /dev/sdc2       /mnt/ntfs            ntfs    defaults        0       2 - i just want to try and get the correct settings :)
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ping
[09:29] <ubotu> pong
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> your there.
[09:30] <lifesf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49777/
[09:31] <lifesf> i'm where?
[09:31] <lifesf> hmm sry; i'm not that quick tonight
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm guessing sdb1 is your ntfs drive
[09:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> so run `sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs` (ntfs=whatever you want to reference the drive as)
[09:32] <lifesf> ok; and if i want it to mount automatically when the pc boots?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> getting there. i want to make sure i have the right drive first
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you run that?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> then run `sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ntfs`
[09:33] <lifesf> ntfs to anything i want?
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can call it /mnt/windows or /mnt/isos (for example)
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> just nothing with a space
[09:34] <lifesf> yup done both
[09:35] <lifesf> no error nothing
[09:35] <lifesf> i'll check the drive to verify data
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> run `ls /mnt/ntfs/`
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it has what you hoped for, thats good ;)
[09:35] <lifesf> it does :D
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> if it does, use `sudo sensible-editor /etc/fstab` to open the fstab file (filesystem table)
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> add a line like : /dev/sdb1       /mnt/ntfs         ntfs         defaults         0          0 to the bottom (perhaps with a comment # this is my ntfs drive)
[09:36] <lifesf> is sensible-editor a editor? because i'm still new and i use nano
[09:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> sensible-editor uses the default editor - which i think is nano
[09:38] <lifesf> ok
[09:38] <lifesf> exit and save?
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep.
[09:38] <lifesf> oops wait... should i tab instead of spaces?
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> shouldnt matter
[09:38] <lifesf> alright
[09:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> now run `sudo umount /mnt/ntfs` (to unmount what we just mounted), then `sudo mount -a`
[09:39] <lifesf> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/ntfs: No such file or directory
[09:39] <lifesf> FUSE mount point creation failed
[09:39] <lifesf> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 (Musique)
[09:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> then `mount`. if you got no errors on those 3 commands, and you see /mnt/ntfs after you run `mount` your good to go :)
[09:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you call it ntfs?
[09:40] <lifesf> ok; i just changed my error in fstab and i tried mount -a again and it says: mount: unknown filesystem type 'musique'
[09:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> show me the line(s) you added to /etc/fstab
[09:41] <lifesf> i changed it sorry; i noticed the second "ntfs" was designing the "type" ijust changed it back to ntfs
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool
[09:42] <lifesf> mount -a gave no errors this time
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> now 'mount'. does it show up in the list?
[09:43] <lifesf> if it saying: [/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/ntfs type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)] then yes
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks good.
[09:44] <lifesf> :)
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can pastebin the lot if you want me to double check, but i think your good to go :)
[09:44] <lifesf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49779/
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> bril. nice work :D
[09:45] <lifesf> YOU are the brilliant one :D
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. nah.
[09:45] <lifesf> so this means; i boot reboot and everything will be good?
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats what i expect
[09:45] <lifesf> Perfect :)
[09:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:46] <lifesf> Thank you VERY much :)
[09:46] <lifesf> enjoy your night/day :)
[09:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> no problems. have fun :)
[16:31] <pteague_work> anybody know of a good web panel similar to whm/cpanel for ubuntu?
[16:58] <Blazer11> hello all
[16:58] <Blazer11> need help SunBlade 1500 Xorg, multi pci domain prob
[17:01] <Blazer11> ive been through all posts several times, it seems this was addressed in Fedora, im curious if one was to convert Fedora Xorg.rpm to .deb and instthis would work
[17:13] <Blazer11> where is everyone
[17:14] <Blazer11> circle jerking?
[17:14] <Blazer11> lol
[17:14] <Blazer11> out for coffee?
[17:21] <MenZa> It might work, but it is /DEFINITELY/ not recommended.
[17:21] <MenZa> !alien | Blazer11
[17:21] <ubotu> Blazer11: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[17:22] <Blazer11> MenZa do u have any sug on a workaround ive been fighting with this, if i could backport to xfree86 that would do the trick
[17:23] <MenZa> !info xfree86
[17:23] <ubotu> Package xfree86 does not exist in gutsy
[17:23] <MenZa> hmm
[17:23] <MenZa> !find xfree86
[17:23] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xfree86-driver-synaptics, xserver-xfree86, t1-xfree86-nonfree, ttf-xfree86-nonfree (and 1 others)
[17:23] <MenZa> xserver-xfree86 is available from the repos.
[17:24] <Blazer11> i think its the transition package?
[17:25] <MenZa> I'm not entirely sure what that is.
[17:26] <Blazer11> could i change something in sources list to install xfree86?
[17:29] <Blazer11> funny thing is i dont think gnome .deb package has support for xfree86 anymore
[17:45] <kbrooks> Blazer11, xfree86 -> xorg. xfree86 is gone
[17:46] <kbrooks> Blazer11, it has been superseded by xorg
[17:46] <Blazer11> debian sarge uses xfree86, i thought this would do the trick, but it hangs detecting cdrom during install
[17:47] <kbrooks> Blazer11, this is #ubuntu-server not #debian
[17:47] <kbrooks> Blazer11, we cannot help you here
[17:48] <Blazer11> I know im using Ubuntu
[17:48] <kbrooks> Blazer11, so why do you mention debian sarge? and gnome is X server agnostic
[17:49] <Blazer11> just making comparison, what was the last v of Ubuntu that used xfree86
[17:49] <kbrooks> !info warty xserver-free86
[17:49] <ubotu> Package warty does not exist in gutsy
[17:49] <kbrooks> !info xserver-xfree86 warty
[17:50] <ubotu> xserver-xfree86: transitional package for moving from XFree86 to X.Org. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.2-5ubuntu13 (gutsy), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB
[17:50] <kbrooks> !info xserver-xfree86 hoary
[17:50] <kbrooks> Blazer11, hm unsure
[17:51] <Blazer11> i think warty was the last make, but how could i get a hold of the install images?
[17:51] <kbrooks> Blazer11, but use packages.ubuntu.com to look for warty hoary edgy dapper gutsy (i might have left out a distribution)
[17:51] <kbrooks> and the package xserver-xfree86
[17:53] <Blazer11> warty not on the list
[22:25] <zylstra555> Hello, I am running an Apache2 server with PHP, MySQL, Perl, and the basics installed. (And of course, the Ubuntu Server OS). I have a forum, and I would like to get the GD Library installed. How do I do this?