[00:00] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: I'm pretty sure they work..
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> Slart: I'm having speed issues connecting to a NAS box on the network
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> my network status is 1000 Mb/sec
[00:00] <dorkface> akos:  I don't know how much easier it would be, but you may be able to use aliases to connect to networks, so whenever you have to connect to a different network, all you'd need to do is type in one command
[00:00] <akos> yeah, ok thx
[00:00] <dorkface> It wouldn't be automatic, but closer to your goal
[00:00] <jscinoz> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop, i downloaded the image of the desktop CD and found however X cant start. Is there a text based installer included on the desktop CD? and if so what is the command to start it?
[00:00] <PointyThingsHurt> my brother gets a 500MB file in less than a minute off the NAS
[00:00] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: is there a max speed defined for the NAS-box?
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> jscinoz: Nope you have to download another cd
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> and he's in XP
[00:01] <Retro`> i've installed Ripper X
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> but when i get the same file, it takes 15 minutes
[00:01] <Retro`> see what that gives
[00:01] <vishal> Is it possible to force application to start on a certain desktop?
[00:01] <unbeatabl> how can i have my own,  ns1.mydomain.com ns2.mydomain.com ? if mydomain.com uses ns1.mydomain.com , how does mydomain.com even haev an IP in the first place?  and if domain registrar doesnt give me this functionality, what shal i do?
[00:01] <genii> jscinoz: No text based installer on the regular cd, you need to get the alternate
[00:01] <proqesi> vishal: define "force"
[00:01] <PointyThingsHurt> shouldnt be, like i said. brother gets the file in less than a minute
[00:01] <thefoxx> hi
[00:02] <vishal> proqesi: for example, when i run pidgin it will open on desktop 6
[00:02] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: ah.. so your problem has nothing to do with gigabit networks.. I would say your problem is "samba is slow, how can I fix it"
[00:02] <sonja> how do i set it up so i don't have to type in my login name when ubuntu boots up, but i can just select it from a list of users on my computer using the mouse?
[00:02] <vishal> proqesi: instead of the current desktop
[00:02] <Seeb> vishal: set DISPLAY before running it
[00:02] <PointyThingsHurt> you think its my samba client?
[00:02] <jscinoz> genii, ugh thats so weak.. another 700mb to waste >_<
[00:02] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: I can only confirm.. I get shitty speeds when using samba to transfer files.. I don't know how to fix it
[00:02] <Seeb> vishal: DISPLAY=":0:1" pidgin
[00:02] <vishal> Seeb: I dont understand,
[00:02] <thefoxx> I have a problem with a package I build with PPA - it's a multi binary package and one "sub package" is sawn by apt every time as newer as the same version - difficult to explain ;)
[00:03] <PointyThingsHurt> Very interesting.  I never even realized it could be the samba CLIENT..
[00:03] <thefoxx> if I update to my builded version it still sais there is again a new version
[00:03] <vishal> Seeb: so i would put that in the console and it would open on desktop 1?
[00:03] <genii> jscinoz: Well, if you already have some other box running ubuntu, maybe do a netboot install
[00:03] <thefoxx> but it's the same version...
[00:03] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: try something else then.. ftp, nas.. see if they are faster
[00:03] <thefoxx> update from 0.0.1 to 0.0.1
[00:03] <Seeb> vishal: or whatever display you want it to appear on
[00:04] <PointyThingsHurt> good idea
[00:04] <vishal> Seeb: I have pidgin load on startup, forgot how, but how would i make that load on desktop 6?
[00:04] <Rufus_> if i downloaded a "screenlet", how can i launch it?
[00:04] <bruenig> !info devilspie | vishal
[00:04] <ubotu> vishal: devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.2-1build1 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB
[00:04] <Slart> Rufus_: screenlet manager.. in settings
[00:05] <Rufus_> thank you
[00:05] <Slart> Rufus_: screenlets in system, preferences
[00:05] <Slart> you're welcome, Rufus_
[00:07] <earthling_> any sugestions on how to make a router out of a linux machine? i hurd it was possible
[00:07] <jscinoz> genii is therea guide to how to do a netboot
[00:07] <genii> jscinoz: Yes, give me a minute
[00:07] <Slart> earthling_: it is.. you don't even need ubuntu.. there are small distros that fit on a cd that do that..
[00:08] <astro76> earthling_, nice pun ;)
[00:08] <PriceChild> I need to do some setkeycode's on boot, what file should I put them in? /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[00:08] <jscinoz> wait nevermind
[00:08] <Slart> earthling_: you'll be using iptables and masquerading.. google for linux internet sharing or something like that.. there are tons of howto's out there
[00:08] <jscinoz> i got x to start
[00:08] <genii> jscinoz: Excellent guide here: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[00:08] <vishal> bruenig: thanks, I just installed it, when i ran it from the console it said: No s-expressions loaded, quiting. any ideas?
[00:09] <jscinoz> thanks, i might not need it anymore, i got X to start by giving the live cd the vga=791 bit
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> vishal: Try man devilspie
[00:09] <genii> jscinoz: Ah, good
[00:09] <bruenig> vishal, read the documentation, you need to write some config files for different applications and put it in ~/.devilspie
[00:09] <genii> Well, logoff time for me
[00:10] <|juan|> can someone help me with gnome+compiz?
[00:10] <vishal> Odd-rationale: bruenig: Cool thanks for the help
[00:10] <|juan|> i have two monitors... one is a 19" standard and the other a 19" wide
[00:10] <|juan|> i'd like to have my taskbar and system bar on the wide screen
[00:10] <Nikolai> is it so difficult to get Adsl Usb modem workin' on linux? :(
[00:11] <|juan|> but the system bar spans across both windows
[00:11] <lcphr3ak> Hey, I have no CD-ROM drive on this computer i'm trying to install ubuntu on, and decided to try out a USB flash drive. I downloaded the .iso, and used dd to image it onto a flash drive. However, it's not booting. Would there be a reason why? I'm trying to get the usb flash to boot just like a live cd-r
[00:11] <adamonline46> Hello.  I got my Intel e1000 ethernet adapter installed, modprobed the driver with no errors, added it by MAC address to my iftab, added eth0 to my /etc/network/interfaces file, and I still get errors when I try to ifup it.  Does anyone know what I can do?  I've exhausted google, but to no avail...
[00:11] <crdlb> |juan|: are you using twinview?
[00:11] <ales> Hi all! Is it possible to disable xgl and dri from the command line in ubuntu?
[00:11] <lwizardl> hi
[00:11] <earthling_> Slart: can i ask a somewhat specific question about a network situation which has been naging me for quiet some time?
[00:11] <crdlb> ales: ? that doesn't really make sense
[00:11] <Slart> earthling_: sure, go ahead
[00:11] <lwizardl> can someone tell me how i turn off UTF-8
[00:12] <crdlb> ales: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[00:12] <|juan|> crdlb: when i run nvidia-settings, it says i'm not using the nvidia x driver...
[00:12] <Evolution2> ales: why would you do that
[00:12] <pike_> lcphr3ak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:12] <ifireball> lcphr3ak: well, the answer is within the question, there is a website called pendrive linux with instructions on how to get ubuntu on a pendrive
[00:12] <crdlb> |juan|: but you *do* have an nvidia card?
[00:12] <|juan|> yeah
[00:12] <lcphr3ak> alright, thanks guys :)
[00:12] <|juan|> i ran sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:12] <|juan|> going to restart x
[00:13] <crdlb> ok
[00:13] <goldphish> So I'm trying to compile a module for my running kernel based on the headers package. I type 'make modules' and get this... "No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c'" Any ideas?
[00:13] <HohoHuhu> Yes. Say oh shit!
[00:13] <Nikolai> could anyone help me or point me to some link with tutorial, for setiing an connexant usb adsl modem? :)
[00:13] <astro76> !language | HohoHuhu
[00:13] <HohoHuhu> No...
[00:13] <ubotu> HohoHuhu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:13] <earthling_> Slart: there are three comps connected to single switch. compA and compB have ip addrs of diff domains but compC has ip addrs of both domains throught virtual addressing. will A be able to ping B
[00:14] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine
[00:14] <ifireball> adamonline46: did you try "ifup"ing without doing the iftab bit?
[00:14] <LimCore> ubuntu failed totally to provide wokring fonts.  the bug is reported for days (weeks?) and still not fixed, what the?
[00:15] <Slart> earthling_: wow.. that sounds like something out of a cisco cert exam =).. I have no idea.. you could try and set it up using virtual machines just to see what happens
[00:15] <HohoHuhu> Is asm-offset.c really present where you untarred your kernel?
[00:15] <adamonline46> ifireball: Oooh, a reboot seemed to fix it... Let me try it out, thanks for responding thus far, though!
[00:15] <|juan|> still says it bud... not running nvidia x driver
[00:15] <crdlb> |juan|: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:16] <|juan|> running it according to restricted drivers
[00:16] <ales> crdlb: I'd like to run X without xgl when I am using my laptop battery. Latest intel video driver has a bug and it causes more than 100 unnecessary wakeups per sec when xgl is present. Removing "xserver-xgl" solves this. I'd only like to do it only while on batt - so I was thinkng of writing a script to do it automatically :D
[00:16] <Nikolai> looks like it's to difficult -.-
[00:16] <crdlb> ales: why would you want to use Xgl with intel?
[00:16] <ifireball> earthling: you'll need to enable ip-forwarding
[00:16] <ifireball> earthling: on compC
[00:16] <ales> crdlb: Ummm, I' dont get any compizs effect if do not have it installed?
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_: you'll need to enable ip-forwarding
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: bad answer :)
[00:17] <HohoHuhu> Goldphish, are you sure you make mrproper before trying to compile?
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_:  on compC
[00:17] <Towelboy> hi...anyone know how to play streaming divx movies in ubuntu? Seems Mplayer starts to download instead and sometimes freezes
[00:17] <ales> crdlb: Is there any other way? :D
[00:17] <earthling_> Slart: dont have more than one comp at my hand. but will try some how....... it does not work if one of them is windows
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: you have a i965?
[00:17] <ales> crdlb: Yes? How'd you know??? :D
[00:17] <HohoHuhu> (backing up your .config before...)
[00:17] <goldphish> HohoHuhu: nope, didn't know I needed to :)
[00:17] <earthling_> ifireball: how do we do that?
[00:17] <|juan|> crdlb: http://pastebin.com/d444e5e08
[00:17] <PointyThingsHurt> Slart: Samba is the culprit.
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: you just need to "unblacklist" it
[00:17] <crdlb> ales: join #compiz-fusion for a sec
[00:17] <ifireball> earthling_: if compC a linux machine?
[00:17] <Slart> earthling_: that's why you could use virtual machines.. you run 3 little machines inside that one..
[00:18] <HohoHuhu> BACKUP YOUR CONFIG BEFORE!
[00:18] <Slart> !vm | earthling_
[00:18] <ubotu> earthling_: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[00:18] <wpk> hm.
[00:18] <Slart> PointyThingsHurt: ah.. ftp was faster?
[00:18] <ifireball> earthling_: is* compC a linux machine?
[00:18] <wpk> it doesn't say anythinkg about KVM
[00:18] <|juan|> crdlb: also, it has each of my monitors... one at 1280x1024 and the other at 1440x900 and it's making them a combined 2720x1024. so windows maximize across the both... annoyance :)
[00:18] <earthling_> fireball:yes
[00:18] <foso> how do i sudo into a folder?
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> loll
[00:19] <gogzmer> How can I access the phpmyadmin page after I installed the package?
[00:19] <pike_> foso: you dont really need to what do you need to do?
[00:19] <crdlb> |juan|: you're definitely using the nvidia driver :/ So I have no idea why nvidia-settings thinks otherwise
[00:19] <goldphish> HohoHuhu: hmm, still getting the same error
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> cd your folder if you get the credentials.
[00:19] <nickrud> foso, you can't, is this a directory you can't read without sudo?
[00:19] <foso> pike_ what?
[00:19] <gogzmer> nevermind
[00:19] <foso> nickrud im trying to drag and drop a theme file into the usr/share/theme folder
[00:19] <earthling_> Slart: i did not understand that thing abt usini VM, or wine?
[00:19] <HohoHuhu> cd your folder if you get the credentials. Else you have to sudo into a user having the right rights on this folder...
[00:20] <pike_> foso: gksu nautilus or sudo mv file /usr/share/theme/
[00:20] <crdlb> |juan|: ah, turn off xinerama
[00:20] <ifireball> earthling_: the quick and dirty die-on-reboot way but distro agnostic: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" (run as root)
[00:20] <earthling_> ifireball:yes linux machine
[00:20] <|juan|> where is that setting located?
[00:20] <HohoHuhu> This chatroom is lots of lolz!
[00:20] <nickrud> foso, ah, gksudo nautilus will let you do that, but it's dangerous. You should instead do it in a terminal, sudo cp /path/to/theme /usr/share/themes
[00:20] <crdlb> |juan|: you seem to have enabled it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:20] <Slart> earthling_: not wine.. virtual machines.. you run a program that simulates a whole computer.. network and all.. then you run 3 of those.. at the same time.. and try the ping thing
[00:20] <|juan|> i bet the nvidia-xconfig did that :-P
[00:20] <|juan|> one sec
[00:21] <earthling_> ifireball: ok will try that... thx
[00:21] <crdlb> |juan|: look for Option "Xinerama" "true" and remove it
[00:21] <ales> crdlb: Thanks. I'll try it right now ;)
[00:21] <heartsblood> I've been having a heck of a lot of trouble with the recent release of moblock, is there any place I can go to get advice?
[00:21] <foso> nickrud i dont understand that all the way sorry
[00:21] <Slart> earthling_: virtualbox is one such virtual machine.. it's a nice way to try things out without having 10 machines at home
[00:22] <|juan|> crdlb: brb
[00:22] <earthling_> Slart: did not about anything like that. Thnks forthe info. Now i have something to work on
[00:22] <pintovisk> hi folks
[00:22] <HohoHuhu> hi
[00:22] <nickrud> foso, normally you don't have write permissions to anything outside your home directory. You need to elevate your rights to the admin level to write there.  gksudo is used with gui programs, and sudo on the command line to get those permissions
[00:22] <pintovisk> I want help
[00:22] <HohoHuhu> ?
[00:22] <Towelboy> Hi all! How do i play online divx? mplayer isn't quite up for the task...
[00:23] <LimCore> ubuntu fails me so much.  even the fonts are broken! it fails to display german and other european characters!! and this bug is known for 5 months!!! and not fixed STILL O__o
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> Yes. It is!
[00:23] <pintovisk> my webcam don't works with linux
[00:23] <Slart> earthling_: you're welcome.. and have fun with those vm's
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> lulz
[00:23] <foso> nickrud sorry, i understand that roughly, in less technical terms, but i dont know what to type in the terminal besides gksudo
[00:23] <HohoHuhu> webcamz now...
[00:23] <LimCore> why  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180  is still not fixed  (and others reported months ago)
[00:23] <adamonline46> ifireball: RE e1000... I said it looked like it was working... Well, in actuality it gets assigned an IP address, but then I get this error: postconf: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: no such file or directory.  I am unable to ping out.  Any ideas?
[00:24] <loopyzort> wow this channel is huge. anyone know where i should go for problems with my video card?
[00:24] <crdlb> LimCore: what is preventing you from using dejavu sans?
[00:24] <HohoHuhu> Yes. Your webcam is working with linux. It is!
[00:24] <HohoHuhu> Lulz.
[00:24] <nickrud> foso, let's step back a sec. The simplest way to install a theme is  system->prefs->appearances , then drag & drop the theme onto the window
[00:24] <HohoHuhu> Which video card?
[00:24] <ifireball> adamonline46: the error seems unrelated, its a postfix (mail server) error
[00:24] <LimCore> crdlb: people have to apply the fix themselves
[00:24] <loopyzort> it's an ati radeon x300
[00:24] <loopyzort> i've read a billion conflicting opinions on how to set it up
[00:24] <foso> nickrud yeah, it doesnt show up after i try that though
[00:24] <Slart> LimCore: talk to canonical.. everyone here is a ubuntu user just like you.. if you want to yell at someone, at least yell at someone that's making money of it =)
[00:24] <ifireball> adamonline46: what does ethtool tell you, does it detect the link?
[00:25] <LimCore> Slart: ok
[00:25] <goldphish> Hmm, so the module I am trying to build is called 'keyspan'. It's included in a vanilla kernel but not in the ubuntu stock builds. How do I obtain the source package for that module since it's included in the kernel itself? I would like to use the kernel headers from my running kernel if possible.
[00:25] <nickrud> foso, then the next step is to unpack it into your own home , at /home/<you>/.themes .
[00:25] <Towelboy> streaming divx in linux?? anybody knows how to?
[00:25] <nickrud> foso, as a general rule you don't want to put things in system locations
[00:26] <HohoHuhu> Google says that in year 2005, ppl had some hard time getting x300 to work with ubuntu...
[00:26] <HohoHuhu> rofl.
[00:26] <loopyzort> hehe, i'm glad to know that
[00:26] <loopyzort> it works somewhat in 7.10
[00:26] <foso> nickrud, i extracted it to the desktop, i dont see a themes fold in my home folder
[00:26] <jesse> anyone feel like troubleshooting flash sync problems with me?
[00:26] <loopyzort> but video is poor and visual effects don't work
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, hit ctl-h in the file manager window
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> flash sync?
[00:27] <Noodels> Just a quick question, would I need to install a special os to use the full power of a dual core processor?
[00:27] <adamonline46> ifireball: ethtool?  How do I use that?  I'm in CLI, by the way, in case it's a GUI thing...  Typing ethtool by itself says 'invalid arguments'
[00:27] <jesse> yes, i've tried everything
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> sync, sync, sync.
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, if you still don't see it, then you would make it
[00:27] <erUSUL> LimCore: use DejaVu fonts they are packaged for ubuntu
[00:27] <jesse> i've tried the "aoss" thing, the .asoundrc file, nothing works
[00:27] <nickrud> foso, and it's important that it be    .themes   , the period at the beginning makes it hidden
[00:27] <jesse> im a relatively advanced user, i dunno wtf is the problem
[00:27] <foso> nickrud i just learned about the ctrl h thing but didnt realize it was there but hidden
[00:27] <HohoHuhu> What ou mean jesse?
[00:27] <Slart> Noodels: well.. I don't think there is an OS out there that fully utilizes a dual core processor.. there are many that can use dual core though
[00:28] <jesse> the sound plays out of sync with the video with the flash plugin
[00:28] <foso> nickrud i put it in there
[00:28] <ifireball> adamonline46: its almost illegal to say here, but honestly, read the manpage please, it is a cli tool btw.
[00:28] <HohoHuhu> kk
[00:28] <Noodels> Slart : I just mean to be able to use a dual core processor with multithreading.
[00:28] <nickrud> foso, what did the package end in, like .tar.gz ?
[00:28] <HohoHuhu> hard one then...
[00:28] <Slart> Noodels: I don't know if vista or the latest ubuntu uses it any different than say.. windows 2000
[00:28] <Slart> Noodels: oh.. most operating systems today do that
[00:29] <foso> nickrud yes, i extracted that by right clicking, then dropped that into themes, is that right? its not showing up in pref/appearances
[00:29] <Noodels> Slart : I'm just trying to explain to a friend that you don't need to go to the trouble of compiling a special kernel if you have a dual core.
[00:29] <foso> nickrud by yes i meant yes tar.gz
[00:29] <Slart> !smp
[00:29] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[00:29] <HohoHuhu> Original flash plugin, running with firefox?
[00:29] <ifireball> adamonline46: essentially its "ethtool ethX" (replace X with something meaningful)
[00:29] <nickrud> foso, what kind of theme was it, exactly
[00:30] <Slart> Noodels: they've stopped using the special kernels.. you can read the reasons for it in that link from ubotu
[00:30] <foso> gtk 2.x
[00:30] <foso> nickrud its called slickness, i found it on gnomelook i think
[00:30] <ifireball> wow
[00:30] <nickrud> foso, you might not see it unless you click the customize button on the theme manager, the default view is meta themes, window borders and icons and gtk2 together
[00:30] <loopyzort> oh well, i suppose it's back to windows. if it's not wireless being difficult, it's video drivers. who knew i'd want my computer to connect to a network _and_ display things
[00:31] <nickrud> foso, and by the way, unpacking and dropping into .themes was the right thing
[00:31] <Noodels> Thanks.
[00:31] <Slart> loopyzort: enjoy your new operating system.. hope it works better for you than ubuntu did
[00:32] <hvgotcodes> can someone help me install awesome wm on gutsy?
[00:32] <goldphish> Ugh, got disconnected. Did anyone answer my question about building a module against a stock ubuntu kernel?
[00:32] <foso> nickrud, its not in any of the aub windows, two other themes that i dropped into the window before were in the .themes folder already and are visible in the window
[00:32] <Slart> "awesome wm" ?
[00:33] <Xjs> uh, netsplits are most impressive here.
[00:33] <nickrud> foso, then that theme might very well be broken
[00:33] <adamonline46> ifireball: Ahh, sorry :)  You asked what it told me, so I figured it would be a self-explanatory app or I might get a sample argument list... Anyway, doing 'ethtool eth0', everything looks fine, but 'link detected', which is 'no'.  Does that sound right?
[00:33] <MaRRe-ocp> o_O
[00:33] <hvgotcodes> awesome: its a dwm derivative
[00:33] <goldphish> Ahh, netsplit... That explains it
[00:33] <ales> Hi all! Anyone knows if there is a fix for xserver-xorg-video-intel driver? If I do not have "NoDRI" Option in xorg.conf I get more than +100 needles wakeups/sec in powertop which is eating up my laptop battery much faster?
[00:34] <Slart> ales: have you checked launchpad? or wherever they keep the bugs
[00:34] <ifireball> goldphish: there is a debian tool called "module-assistant" not sure if it works on ubuntu though
[00:34] <nickrud> ifireball, yes it does
[00:34] <ales> Slart: I have, but there hasn't been any recent updates :(
[00:34] <foso> nickrud i clicked install from the window that appearance opens up, then ctrl h selected it, it had another tar.gz folder, i double clicked it and it works
[00:35] <foso> nickrud thanks alot for all of your help!
[00:35] <Slart> ales: hmm.. let's just hope they are quiet because they are working hard on it =)
[00:35] <ifireball> adamonline46: check your cabling...
[00:35] <BloodyScum> every time i go to youtube and try to watch a video, ubuntu crashes, the interface i cant even get in to the terminal, im useing firefox with a few adons, but nothing that should be affecting youtube.. anyone ever herd of anything like that?
[00:35] <ales> Slart: LOL. Crossing my fingers :)
[00:36] <goldphish> ifireball: yeah, it does. But i use it and get "keyspan, what is keyspan?" Probably indicating that it doesn't know how to build that module. The source for it is included in a vanilla kernel.
[00:36] <nickrud> ales, you might want to find the x.org bug tracker, that's probably more up to date
[00:36] <ales> nickrud: ok. i will - thanks!
[00:37] <ifireball> goldphish: its might be named differently in there, I remember m-a has some listing and searching commands
[00:38] <uzerzero> anybody happen to know anything about how a synaptics trackpad talks to ubuntu?
[00:38] <SQFreak> I have a question about using rsync -- how can I make it ignore the path information (i.e. when I tell it to sync /home/user/stuff, I want only the files and directories inside stuff to appear, not /home/user/stuff/files)?
[00:38] <uzerzero> the scrollbar on mine randomly stopped working earlier today.
[00:38] <PointyThingsHurt> So it seems my Samba client has speed issues
[00:39] <ifireball> goldphish: other then that I'll have to refer you to the m-a docs (google, and in /use/share/doc), but I know that is the tool you need for the job
[00:39] <akorn> anybody know how i can get my resolution on my GMA 950 video card to go above 1440 x 900?
[00:39] <goldphish> ifireball: cool, thanks
[00:39] <akorn> i want 1680x1050
[00:39] <SQFreak> never mind; i got my answer.
[00:40] <atomdog2003> anyone have advise regarding setting up a good webcam?
[00:40] <WinXpNewb> Is it possible to sort the opened windows in window selector to sort by alphabetical order? (Linux Mint/Ubuntu-based Distro)
[00:40] <uzerzero> atomdog2003: have you already purchased the webcam?
[00:41] <atomdog2003> uzerzero: I haven't bought anything yet
[00:41] <Slart> atomdog2003: check carefully that the webcam works and is supported by ubuntu before buying it..
[00:42] <pike_> !webcam | atomdog2003
[00:42] <ubotu> atomdog2003: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:42] <pike_> atomdog2003: well the !hardware link would of been more help
[00:42] <ifireball> !module-assistant
[00:42] <nickrud> !synaptics | uzerzero
[00:42] <ubotu> uzerzero: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[00:42] <atomdog2003> Slart: how can I check if the webcam is supported?
[00:42]  * Slart has a very nice webcam that isn't supported.. it looks very shiny on top of the monitor.. but it does nothing =)
[00:42] <Slart> atomdog2003: look at the link ubotu wrote. a few lines up
[00:43] <Phophos> Hey, how does one configure the display of the splash loading screen? It's claiming to be "out of range" on my monitor ...
[00:43] <uzerzero> atomdog2003: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Webcams
[00:45] <atomdog2003> thanks for the links and advise on webcams
[00:45] <Aztec007> hey guys, I'm dual booting a PC with Ubuntu / XP, I first installed Ubuntu's "/', and "/boot" directories on one partition, does that make it impossible to dual boot the machine? After I installed XP, I had to reedit the menu.lst file but when I select windows now it wont load
[00:46] <pike_> Aztec007: as long as xp installed ok and booted before you rewrote the mbr you are fine
[00:46] <atomdog2003> Aztec007:  I think you need to install Windows first
[00:46] <atomdog2003> anyone out there using ZoneMinder?
[00:46] <Slart> Aztec007: I'm not sure you *have* to install xp first.. but it's easier
[00:47] <pike_> Aztec007: you using chainloader?
[00:47] <Slart> Aztec007: if you do install ubuntu first you'll need a live cd to restore the mbr after you're done installing xp
[00:47] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine
[00:47] <slugone> u think the american army can spy on you while u play the game american army?>
[00:47] <atomdog2003> anyone out there using a webcam for anything?  if so then what are you using the webcam for?
[00:47] <hd> good morning everyone
[00:48] <Slart> !offtopic | slugone
[00:48] <ubotu> slugone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:48] <Phophos> Never mind, I've solved my own problem - /etc/usplash.conf
[00:48] <Aztec007> pike: well I read a tutorial on editing the menu.lst file and one of the options in the menu part was chainloader I think it was set to  = -1
[00:48] <PriceChild> Azer, +
[00:48] <slugone> im new to linux i dont know how tight the security is
[00:48] <bastid_raZor> slugone:: run as a user and not root .. security is rock solid
[00:48] <slugone> 10-4
[00:49] <Slart> slugone: that question had nothing to do with security.. if you run a binary someone else sent you... well..you've got yourself to blame
[00:49] <atomdog2003> what is your favorite ubuntu app?
[00:49] <DigitalNinja> Are there any good instructions out there for horde?
[00:49] <Slart> atomdog2003: xchat-gnome of course =)
[00:50]  * nickrud hexes Slart again and again and again and again
[00:50] <pike_> Aztec007: it sounds like you are fine. after you installed xp it rebooted to finish windows setup and worked right?
[00:50] <Slart> hehe.. it's nice and shiney.. a bit stupid at times.. but I like it =)
[00:51] <atomdog2003> Slart: that is what you are using for IRC?
[00:51] <Slart> it could use a spellchecker though.. ahem.. shiny
[00:51] <elson6659> hey there - can someone give me a quick hint? I have a wireless card for which I need to use ndiswrapper, all fine and good. but the only way I know how to start the card is by using 'dhclient' - how can I start it with a static ip address? I'm using xubuntu, but happy on the console.
[00:51] <Slart> atomdog2003: yes
[00:51] <pike_> Aztec007: if that is the case id see the !fixmbr link because as long as windows installed grub doesnt care where it is
[00:52] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: You need to configure /etc/network
[00:52] <elson6659> ok
[00:52] <Josspyker> elson6659: man iwconfig and edit etc/network/interfaces
[00:52] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: Wait! that's not right. let me check
[00:52] <elson6659> and then what command would I use to bring up the network, instead of dhclient? is it ifup?
[00:52] <atomdog2003> Slart: I'm using Hydra on windows because ubuntu is tripping over my two video cards (or something).  I'm going to pull one card and try agiain.
[00:52] <Slart> atomdog2003: try out  "add/remove"  in the main "Applications" menu.. those apps are all pretty popular and well supported.. at least the ones with a little ubuntu mark next to them
[00:53] <DigitalNinja> elson6659: /etc/network/interfaces
[00:53] <raichlea> hi all.  I am having problems with my current java plugin in firefox.  I have 7.10 with the     File name: libjavaplugin_oji.so
[00:53] <raichlea>     Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_03.   I read about something called icedtea, is this a better plugin for me?
[00:53] <steve___> steve__: booga
[00:53] <Slart> atomdog2003: oh.. I don't think I've ever had 2 videocards in a machine before.. ubuntu doesn't like it?
[00:53] <neutr0n> anyone have an idea why i cant switch my video driver over to intel 945 from the i810 which it is not under screens and graphics?
[00:54] <ctothej> Update manager has prompted me to install linux-headers-2.6.22-14, l-h-generic and linux-image... but I have compiled 2.6.23.9, installed, and am using that kernel version for a hardware compatibility issue that it fixes. What would happen if I let update manager install the 2.6.22-24.47 update? Should I just use synaptic to lock or freeze these particular updates?
[00:54] <simulacra> lll
[00:54] <atomdog2003> Slart:  Not sure.  But when I switched my monitor from one to the other it lit up and worked until I installed ssh.  Now all is black again.
[00:54] <pedrotmartinez> Good afternoon
[00:54] <pedrotmartinez> I have ubuntu gutsy installed on my laptop
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[00:55] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: You should be able to tell the update manager not to install the new kernel
[00:55] <gabbah> what does it mean when qtparted lists a partition as "active"?
[00:55] <pedrotmartinez> And I cannot connect to wifi, only by ethernet
[00:55] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[00:55] <kriel> I happen to use firefox for my messaging and music while I'm using my computer (See: meebo.com|pandora.com) and I also browse around on the internet. There are several sites, however, that happen to lock up my browser. So: is there any way I can get firefox to launch two completely seperate instances of itself? If not, can somebody reccomend a similar browser (preferably in the apt repositories?)
[00:55] <Slart> atomdog2003: hmm.. didn't know ssh would affect your graphics setup.. well well.. try asking about it here.. someones bound to know what to do
[00:55] <pedrotmartinez> what can I do?
[00:55] <tritium> !wireless | pedrotmartinez
[00:55] <ubotu> pedrotmartinez: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:55] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: If it does install the new kernel you just need to edit grub and make sure your kernel is loaded first
[00:55] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok, I can lock the versions in synaptic. what would it do if I let it install?
[00:56] <gogzmer> Why, after re-starting, would the "ls" command not display things in different colors(ex. Sym-links vs. files)
[00:56] <tritium> Slart: ssh does not affect your graphics setup
[00:56] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok... so kernel updates through update manager would update grub?
[00:56] <atomdog2003> Does ubuntu have problems with NVidia video cards?
[00:56] <tritium> atomdog2003: no more than any other distro
[00:56] <Slart> tritium: it did for atomdog2003.. or it happened at the same time =)
[00:56] <tritium> Slart: the latter
[00:56] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: Yes. I have had this happen to me. Just edit the grub menu file and reboot
[00:57] <ctothej> atomdog2003: actually, NVidia cards work very well, better than many others.
[00:57] <Gnea> hey everyone, I got one of these usb mini photo viewers for christmas - neat little thing, but I'm trying to get it working in ubuntu - it plugs in and lights up right away, but I don't see any driver try to take advantage of it in gutsy..
[00:57] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: ok great thanks
[00:57] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: If you don't know how to do this just hit "Esc" on boot so you get the grub boot menu. You should be able to pick your kernel.
[00:57] <DigitalNinja> ctothej: That's assuming your kernel is still in the menu.
[00:57] <kriel> Gnea: does it happen to recognize it as a usb flash drive?
[00:58] <Gnea> kriel: nafaik - but i haven't done any manual loading of modules yet
[00:58] <ctothej> DigitalNinja: true, I am familiar with editing the grub menu, so that shouldn't be a problem.
[00:58] <Gnea> this is all it says with lsusb: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0979:0221 Jeilin Technology Corp., Ltd
[00:58] <kriel> Gnea: do a ls /dev | grep [hs]d[a-z] and see what pops up. Is there anything newish in there?
[00:59] <atomdog2003> when I installed video signal was coming from my NVidia.  After install the signal was only coming from my 2nd graphics card.  All was well - I just switched over to it.  Then, I installed ssh and the screen is black.  The system won't start.  I'm windering if the signal is now coming from the NVidia card?  no idea.  I'm going to pull the 2nd card and re-install.
[00:59] <kyu_flux> sorry, you probably get this all the time... xchat dcc broken (behind router but works on windows boxes)
[00:59] <Gnea> kriel: no, they all have the same timestamp as when the system booted up a few days ago
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: Hold off on that
[01:00] <pike_> kyu_flux: its not a firewall issue with ubuntu unless you installed firestarter or something
[01:00] <maestrojed> With a default installation of apache2, where is the default location for the .htpasswd file?
[01:00] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  hold off?
[01:00] <kyu_flux> pike_: I didn't install that at all
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: First try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or manually edit your xorg from recovery mode with sudo nano
[01:00] <Gnea> maestrojed: iirc, that's defined by the .htaccess file
[01:01] <kriel> Gnea: the only other idea that i can suggest is possibly looking through the forums and/or through apt and see if there's anything in either of those sources. Was there a manual included, and if so, was there any useful info in there?
[01:01] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  thanks - will do
[01:01] <maestrojed> Gnea: That makes sense.  Thank you
[01:01] <adamonline46> ifireball: Yay!  A new cable now shows up as 'linked' in ethtool.  Half my cables don't even turn on the activity/connect lights... Anyway, I still  cant ping or ssh or anything... any ideas?
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: I was just trying to catch you before you logged off
[01:01] <pike_> kyu_flux: sudo iptables -L will tell you that everything is set to accept so its not a firewally issue on ubuntu it has to be the router or a config issue with xchat id think try /join #xchat maybe they will be more knowledgable
[01:02] <kyu_flux> pike_: ahh, nevermind, I figured it out... bah...
[01:02] <pike_> heh
[01:02] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  oh - I'm on at work right now - this problem is at home - so - these are long term goals
[01:02] <kyu_flux> pike_: thanks though
[01:02] <Gnea> kriel: well i already googled it - it looks like it's one of those cheap devices from china (hong kong, specifically) that's geared toward mass-market. the manual is very much engrish, but it looks like someone from america actually went over it with a comb before letting it go
[01:02] <macd> I've installed mtop, and it works, however dist-upgrade can never complete b/c dpkg configure fails to realize that mysql has a root password, without removing the package how can this be fixed?
[01:03] <ifireball> adamonline46: well, have you got the IP and netmask settings right? what are you pinging anyway? sure it doesn't have a firewall on?
[01:03] <Svish> I am in a directory. How can I recursively compress all files of a certain type with gz? I want to compress all css and js files. So if there is a stuff.js file, then afterwards, there should also be a stuff.js.gz file
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: You could also try running live and copying the xorg from livecd to your installed system
[01:03] <trollboy> If I leave my machine on screen saver, ubuntu auto logs me out after so long
[01:03] <trollboy> how do I disable that
[01:03] <macd> the output of the mtop error is: david@thor:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[01:03] <macd> Reading package lists... Done
[01:03] <macd> Building dependency tree
[01:03] <macd> Reading state information... Done
[01:03] <macd> Calculating upgrade... Done
[01:03] <macd> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:03] <macd> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[01:04] <macd> Need to get 0B of archives.
[01:04] <Gnea> !paste | macd
[01:04] <macd> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[01:04] <ubotu> macd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <macd> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[01:04] <aszwet1> hey i need some help with my logitech quickcam deluxe for notebooks
[01:04] <macd> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:04] <adamonline46> ifireball: I'm pinging google.  Ahh, YES, you're the man!  I didn't know I still had a firewall enabled on this old thing... Sheesh... Shoulda just started with a fresh install... hehheh :)  Well, thank you!
[01:04] <macd>  mtop
[01:04] <trollboy> Is there a setting for this I'm missing?
[01:04] <macd> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:04] <macd> ohh!
[01:04] <aszwet1> hey i need some help with my logitech quickcam deluxe for notebooks
[01:04] <trollboy> why are you still flooding?
[01:04] <macd> sorry bout that!
[01:04] <macd> I pasted the wrong thing
[01:04] <trollboy> you shouldn't paste at all
[01:04] <trollboy> unless its 1 line
[01:04] <trollboy> anyways
[01:04] <macd> this is what I wanted to paste: http://pastie.caboo.se/132598
[01:04] <trollboy> anyone know how to disable autologout in 7.01?
[01:05] <macd> it was a simple copy/paste mistake, give me a break.
[01:05] <ifireball> adamonline46: well, you should have a firewall, but set it up right...
[01:05] <aszwet1> anybody have any help with spca5xx?
[01:05] <Gnea> there's an autologout?
[01:05] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  so, you are trying to trigger a reconfig of X?
[01:05] <dirkg3nt1y>  /set -i tb
[01:05] <LimCore> what does it return by default:        cat /proc/sys/dev/hpet/max-user-freq       ?   (its timer freq setting)
[01:05] <trollboy> GnarlyBob, I hope so
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: Yes
[01:05] <trollboy> or my ubuntu is hosed
[01:05] <macd> aszwet1, install the drivers via synaptic, then it will be called /dev/video0 (assuming you have no video capture cards)
[01:05] <tritium> trollboy: there is no autologout
[01:05] <adamonline46> ifireball: Hehheh, that was next... This is gonna be a fileserver, and I only want 2 computers to access it...
[01:06] <trollboy> tritium, then any ideas why its doing this?
[01:06] <raichlea> can anyone tell me how to get firefox to use the icedtea-java7 plugin?  It's currently using libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[01:06] <Gnea> trollboy: try creating another account and logging in with that and see if it does the same thing again
[01:06] <trollboy> ko Gnea
[01:06] <tritium> trollboy: what exactly is happening?
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd they have it in synaptic?
[01:06] <macd> aszwet1, yes
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd.  damnit.
[01:06] <trollboy> I lock my desktop
[01:06] <trollboy> I wonder away
[01:06] <atomdog2003> Jack_Sparrow:  I've done that before after I selected a resolution and refresh rate that screwed me - had to use the command line to do it
[01:06] <trollboy> I come back, and I'm logged out.
[01:06] <Neskaya> *wander, trollboy.
[01:06] <macd> !info spca5xx-source
[01:06] <ubotu> spca5xx-source: source for the spca5xx driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060501-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 192 kB, installed size 256 kB
[01:06] <aszwet1> macd. lol probably should've checked that first.
[01:07] <trollboy> it doesn't restart though
[01:07] <trollboy> sorry Neskaya
[01:07] <bieb> I am having problems with setting up a dialup modem on a thinkpad T30 running ubuntu 7.10
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> atomdog2003: YEp, that is how to get it back... if needed set it to vesa mode 1024 max res to get back backic functionality
[01:07] <anton__> Hey, I am connected to the internet, and I have connected a network cable from my second NIC to a friends computer, but he can't get internet. Is there a setting in ubuntu which allows me to share the internet? :P Like a router
[01:07] <bieb> I have used pppconfig, run pon and it doesnt do anything
[01:07] <aszwet1> macd wow.  i installed a bunch of junk trying to follow some how-tos... i have no clue how to remove some of that stuff... think it'll matter?
[01:07] <bieb> is there a way to determine the port of the modem?
[01:08] <ifireball> adamonline46: doable, no doubt. good luck!
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bieb: Sounds like another winmodem.softmodem not a true hardware modem.  those all just work
[01:08]  * adamonline46 bows
[01:08] <macd> aszwet1, hopefully you took notes.
[01:08] <anton__> anyone?
[01:08] <trollboy> tritium, thoughts?
[01:08] <wols> bieb: does lspci show your modem in any way?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup > bieb May help
[01:09] <bieb> wols let me check
[01:09] <tritium> trollboy: nope, that's not normal
[01:09] <macd> bieb, do you have the lucent or JCom modem (you can tell by issuing 'lspci' in a terminal)
[01:09] <trollboy> yay
[01:09] <trollboy> ok thanks tritium
[01:09] <aszwet1> macd.  your hope is in the wrong place :)
[01:09] <aszwet1> guess we'll see huh?
[01:09] <macd> aszwet1, for sure
[01:10] <aszwet1> macd i have all my important files backed up on my external hdd... so it won't matter that much :)
[01:10] <Gnea> anton__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:10] <macd> aszwet1, and come to think of it, I just plugged my logitech quickcam in, and it worked with camorama
[01:10] <bieb> wols the modem is Intel Corp, 82801ca/cam ac'97
[01:10] <macd> bieb, thats your sound device.
[01:10] <Svish> how can I adjust "gzip -r somedir" to leave the original files?
[01:11] <korosora> question: why is java so popular?
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd i installed camorama but it's saying that could not connect to video device
[01:11] <Gnea> korosora: cross-platform
[01:11] <anton__> Gnea: ip: Unknown host
[01:11] <anton__> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd, that installation didn't fix it...
[01:11] <macd> aszwet1, does 'lsusb' show your camera?
[01:11] <bieb> macd that is the modem line in lspci
[01:11] <korosora> hmm i see.
[01:11] <Gnea> anton__: you'll... need to read it a bit more first
[01:11] <aszwet1> macd, yes
[01:12] <anton__> Gnea: Be specific, please.
[01:12] <Delvien> anyone know what i2c-sys
[01:12] <Delvien> is
[01:12] <aszwet1> macd, yes
[01:12] <silasrm> good night help me about vpn with ipsec
[01:12] <Gnea> anton__: there's a webpage, it tells you what to do. you need to read through the whole thing. for some reason, you need to be at a root prompt and not use sudo with every command
[01:12] <bieb> macd: it gives the same line for sound and modem in lspci
[01:12] <anton__> Ok. How to open a root terminal?
[01:12] <macd> aszwet1, what does "lsmod | grep gspca" say?
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> bieb: that is a winmodem/linmodem
[01:13] <Gnea> anton__: sudo su
[01:13] <sunogbaga> Svish: -c
[01:13] <tritium> Gnea, anton__: no, sudo -i
[01:13] <tritium> do not use sudo su
[01:13] <anton__> aha
[01:13] <Gnea> tritium: sudo su  gives me a root prompt and presents no problems.
[01:13] <adamonline46> !e17
[01:13] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[01:13] <aszwet1> videodev               29312  3 gspca,uvcvideo
[01:13] <aszwet1> usbcore               138632  10 gspca,usb_storage,libusual,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[01:13] <tritium> Gnea: sudo -i is preferred
[01:13] <Gnea> tritium: because?
[01:13] <aszwet1> oops
[01:14] <macd> aszwet1, ok, do "sudo modprobe gspca" then try camorama again
[01:14] <anton__> Gnea, Tritium: Still same thing..."ip: unknown host"
[01:14] <tritium> Gnea: because the entire point of using sudo is to avoid use of su
[01:14] <aszwet1> macd nope
[01:14] <anton__> oh. sorry, read it better now
[01:14] <anton__> Which IP should I use?
[01:15] <Gnea> tritium: i see what you mean... ok
[01:15] <Svish> how can I make a ".bat"-file in ubuntu?
[01:15] <Gnea> anton__: basically you need to create your own - do you know anything about subnetting or networking at all?
[01:15] <drgeb> how do i copy a complete configuration fro desktop of one user to another if I am using gnome and compiz fusion ?
[01:15] <Armymen> somebody know a good linux that can be better than Windows home Server ?? ; )
[01:15] <Gnea> Svish: for use in wine or dosemu?
[01:15] <Gnea> Armymen: ubuntu server
[01:16] <bieb> jack_sparrow when I installed ubuntu 7.10 it also installed a "restricted driver" if I look at that it says Software Modem Driver, and in use is checked
[01:16] <macd> aszwet1, and it does show in "lsusb" right?
[01:16] <bieb> oops.. "Enabled" is checked
[01:16] <LjL> Svish: if i understand you correctly, you want to make a shell script. start the file with #!/bin/sh, put the commands you want in it, and make it executable with "chmod +x filename"
[01:16] <Gnea> Armymen: about the only thing that you won't get an ease of use out of ubuntu server is the whole AD thing - although it would appear that that is subject to change somewhat soon
[01:16] <tritium> bieb: it doesn't install that without first asking you
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> tritium: agreed
[01:17] <bieb> right.. and I accepted the install
[01:17] <Armymen> ok nice ; )
[01:17] <Demonho-br> Hello, a friend of mine wanted to connect on the vpn of his work, he has all information needed such as key user server information like gatway and other things too.. he tried to config ipsec.conf kvpnc . pptp  but nothing worked. could someone try to explain to me how to make it working ? please
[01:17] <aszwet1> Bus 004 Device 012: ID 046d:09c1 Logitech, Inc.
[01:17] <Armymen> i like that they work on Ubuntu home server
[01:17] <Armymen> but dont look to go very fast :(
[01:17] <aszwet1> gspca                 680528  0
[01:17] <aszwet1> videodev               29312  2 gspca,uvcvideo
[01:17] <aszwet1> usbcore               138632  10 gspca,usb_storage,libusual,snd_usb_audio,uvcvideo,snd_usb_lib,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[01:17] <Gnea> well yeah, it requires a GUI in windows lol
[01:17] <aszwet1> is what that one said
[01:17] <macd> aszwet1, lets see if that particular chipset is supported, I remember reading 1 or 2 werentr
[01:17] <tritium> aszwet1: please don't paste
[01:17] <aszwet1> tritium sorry
[01:18] <macd> aszwet1, did you reboot?
[01:19] <aszwet1> macd, no i didn't should i?
[01:19] <macd> review http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4023950 that first
[01:19] <macd> @ aszwet1
[01:19] <macd> aszwet1, just the logitech portion, they mention gspca-source, over spcaxx-source
[01:19] <aszwet1> ok macd i'll give it a try
[01:19] <anton__> Hm? Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:20] <kris_> hello
[01:20] <macd> !info apt-proxy
[01:20] <ubotu> apt-proxy: Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.36ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 83 kB, installed size 432 kB
[01:20] <anton__> Gnea: Nope.
[01:21] <bieb> jack_sparrow tritium  what should I check next since the restricted drivers are installed?
[01:21] <Svish> LjL: Thank you, will try that :)
[01:21] <kris_> sweet
[01:21] <earthian> Hello, after playing a little bit with recording on my Toshiba L30 10Y laptop thing go wrong with ESD. Any idea how to find the cause?
[01:21] <aszwet1> macd,  will that work with webcam chats and all that too?? or just skype?
[01:21] <Svish> how can I prevent gzip and gunzip from deleting the orignal file???
[01:21] <macd> aszwet1, anything, it makes it a video device
[01:21] <javialquim> kris.... you triangulating wort hog
[01:22] <macd> aszwet1, I have a feeling you just dont have camorama setup for /dev/video0 though, since everything else looks pretty kosher.
[01:22] <javialquim> Kris...  Vista Lover
[01:22] <Tulenian> irc.synirc.net
[01:22] <Tulenian> whoops
[01:22] <javialquim> Kris loves MS Windows Vista
[01:22] <aszwet1> macd, so then with adding that line to rc.local and a reboot will fix that?
[01:22] <kris_> is there a way to boot this javialquim KID
[01:23] <macd> aszwet1, just do what it says, reboot and then we'll see.
[01:23] <aszwet1> ok brb :)
[01:23] <LjL> there is indeed. pity it's the same IP as you
[01:23] <tritium> bieb: sorry, I'm not following your disussion
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> Ello ello!
[01:24] <xavier_> hello
[01:24] <xavier_> help me plz
[01:24] <bieb> tritium I ran sudo wvdialconf.. it says found modem /dev/ttySL0
[01:24] <blind> hey guys, having some problems. Installed a Linksys wireless card in a dapper machine, modprobe'd rt2500 and set up the network settings. wasn't working properly, so i rebooted, and now it stops at "configuring network interfaces" on boot... help?
[01:24] <WindowSmasher> Inquiring minds would like to know: The hard drive parking issue with Ubuntu.  What if the command to disable HD power management doesn't stop it?
[01:24] <earthian> Can somebody help me debug/fix problem with sound system (including esd)
[01:24] <macd> blind, have you let it sit for 15 minutes?
[01:25] <blind> macd: it's been sitting for at least 20
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> I have been searching and I cannot find the solution to my problem
[01:25] <macd> blind, reboot it, choose the failsafe kernel
[01:25] <adamonline46> How do I install an X server?
[01:25] <sigra> +anyone heard of easy ubuntu..if so what do you think?
[01:25] <macd> adamonline46, only the x server, or do you want a window manager as well?
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> my wireless card is PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:25] <WindowSmasher> !hdd
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <pedrotmartinez> I have ubuntu gutsy
[01:26] <adamonline46> macd: I just installed enlightenment, the WM, apparently I don't have an X server isntalled 8)  So yeah, just the server...
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> and I have the restricted package installed and the modules loaded
[01:26] <X-nor> sigra: I doubt it could be easier than Ubuntu, and it's probably unsupported
[01:26] <wols> i3945
[01:26] <blind> macd: recovery mode?
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> but it doesnt appear on the network-manager
[01:26] <pedrotmartinez> any ideas?
[01:26] <macd> adamonline46, and you installed e17 from apt? it would automatically install X as well.
[01:26] <Pir8> Anyone ever come across this, sometimes within linux (Ubuntu/Mint in my case) firefox can play youtube and other videos with sound, other times no sound.
[01:26] <macd> Pir8, its a known flash issue.
[01:27] <Pir8> aaaah ok
[01:27] <Pir8> so it'
[01:27] <Pir8> so it isn't just me then.
[01:27] <sigra> easy ubuntu runs on ubuntu..its for newbie ubuntu users..it does everthing for you in a gui..like install the media wmv and avi..and setup nvidia or ati and so on..and addes mtscore and alot more.
[01:27] <sonja> how do i gain access to write in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols ?
[01:27] <mrdinkles> For the Preference > Sessions > Visual > Edit Startup Program > Command-- What should this command be set at?
[01:27] <X-nor> sigra: oh
[01:27] <tritium> sigra: I'd advise against it.  Installing the packages you need is nearly as easy.
[01:27] <wols> macd: why would it?
[01:27] <macd> Pir8, the fixed flash is out, but it has a small error on install, should be fixed soon enough, if your on gutsy, for now you can manually install the hardy package
[01:27] <Pir8> macd, interesting....thanks for sharing that I always thought it had something to do with my installation
[01:27] <wols> adamonline46: install xorg
[01:27] <tritium> sigra: ubuntu-restricted-extras goes a long way to installing codecs, etc.
[01:27] <Gnea> anton__: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[01:27] <macd> wols Im pretty sure its a pre-req.
[01:27] <adamonline46> macd: I couldn't find E17 package, it was called 'enlightenment'.  That's what I would have figured, too, but when I type 'startx' I get a command not found error, and when I type 'enlightenent' I get an 'X erver not running' error...
[01:27] <sigra> my extra's codec was greyed out.
[01:27] <Pir8> macd I'm using Mint, which I think is built on gutsy...Shall investigate that. thanks mate.
[01:28] <naxa> hi
[01:28] <sigra> I was unable to install them..but easy ubuntu..pointed me to synaptic package to install alternative
[01:28] <sigra> if not for easy ubuntu to show me..I had hunt the info ..easy ubuntu hunts info and resolves it in newbie fashion
[01:28] <naxa> can someone give me a hint where can i ask something about a differential equtation right now?
[01:28] <wols> macd: just cause you install a WM doesn't mean you'd want a X server
[01:28] <macd> wols, maybe
[01:28] <LjL> sigra: or one could just ask here.
[01:29] <sigra> Yes this very nice place LjL but I didnt know about this chat for days when first getting ubuntu
[01:29] <wols> !easyubuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:29] <blind> macd: alright, booted recovery mode, and it's stuck on configuring network interfaces again.... just let it sit?
[01:29] <Gnea> anton__: if you need help figuring out what to put in for the ip range attributes, try this calculator: http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[01:29] <sigra> exactly ubotu
[01:29] <Demonho-br> nobody knows about the vpn ?
[01:29] <macd> blind, or hit enter, or crtl+c
[01:29] <Demonho-br> =\
[01:29] <tritium> sigra: see the "use at your own risk" part of that statement
[01:30] <Gnea> "use at your own risk"
[01:30] <Demonho-br> "use at your owon risk"
[01:30] <sigra> well alot when new is at your own risk.
[01:30] <Gnea> it makes it "easy" to do what, exactly? :)
[01:30] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: can you paste the output of iwconfig to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the link for your pastebin back here?
[01:30] <macd> Gnea, hose apt.
[01:30] <naxa> wols: i checked my ubuntu, no noacpi and anything helped. i didn't check yet what if i don't start X
[01:30] <adamonline46> wols: Installing xserver-xorg right now, thank you :)
[01:30] <wols> sigra: no. ubuntu is supported here. easyubuntu no so
[01:30] <adamonline46> macd: Thank you, too
[01:30] <anton__> Gnea: I am a newbie!
[01:30] <tritium> sigra: we're advising you against it, obviously.  Seek help here instead.
[01:30] <wols> adamonline46: install xorg
[01:30] <Gnea> macd: you have won the ubuntu new year prize award!
[01:30] <naxa> wols: it's freezing with or without noacpi
[01:30] <Demonho-br> anton__, im too
[01:30] <Gnea> anton__: exactly, that calculator will help :)
[01:31] <adamonline46> wols: I tried that, it couldn't find package xorg...
[01:31] <anton__> Hm
[01:31] <anton__> Nope, but thanks anyway...
[01:31] <Gnea> hrm
[01:31] <sigra> well I am not advising to use easy ubuntu..I am asking about people that has used it and what they think..(ones that have used it)
[01:31] <mrdinkles>  For the Preference > Sessions > Visual > Edit Startup Program > Command-- What should this command be set at
[01:31] <blind> macd: okay, hit ctrl+c to skip it, it got through some things, and then it said it was using old /proc/something/something (it was only there for a few seconds) and to update old driver..
[01:31] <remu> hello everyone, ive got a windows computer that houses all of my files for the home network, its running windows xp, when i watch videos from it on my laptop while im in windows xp, it works great, no stutter, no nothing, however, when i run ubuntu on the same laptop and try to watch the videos, they stutter, sometimes freeze for a few seconds (15-30) and then play again
[01:31] <wols> sigra: ask in #easyubuntu as the name implies and don't take polls
[01:31] <macd> sigra, well its unsupported, can break things, and we dont recommend it
[01:31] <remu> does anyone know how i can fix that?
[01:31] <aszwet1> macd no luck sir
[01:31] <sigra> um I not taking polls.  I am learning about ubuntu?
[01:32] <sigra> and thanks. I didnt know there was a chatchannel for easy ubuntu
[01:32] <sigra> I check it out
[01:32] <Gnea> anton__: well, it's a bit of a read, but... http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/
[01:32] <tritium> sigra: asking people about it and what they think is, by definition, taking a poll
[01:32] <macd> aszwet1, not sure what to tell you really, its very possible something you did earlier is conflicting and causing it not to work
[01:32] <adamonline46> wols: Are you saying xserver-xorg is wrong?
[01:32] <Gnea> anton__: anything you could possibly need to know about any kind of networking with linux is there
[01:32] <sigra> well there is no shortage of judgement in ones self opinion in here.  Have nice day:)
[01:32] <aszwet1> how can i check that kind of stuff macd?
[01:33] <lleonard> I have a widescreen display and the usplash image is displaying out of proportion.  I tried changing the resolution in /etc/usplash.conf to 1680 x 1050 and regenerated the ramfs image, but it looks the same.  Is it not possible for usplash to use 1680 x 1050 resolution?
[01:33] <aszwet1> and can you link me to that one website again?
[01:33] <macd> aszwet1, by undoing everything you did earlier
[01:33] <Gnea> anton__: chapter 2 should be what you're currently after
[01:33] <Pir8> ok so all of a sudden my audio is borked
[01:33] <naxa> is there a patch for gtk's file open window to display files as icons (like in nautilus)? if no, where exactly can i ask for it? it's a very needed feature... xp had it and now vista has much more than this... ubuntu cannot lack anymore
[01:33] <wols> adamonline46: not sure if it pulls all needed dependencies
[01:33] <macd> @aszwet1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4023950
[01:33] <Pir8> it's not just firefox....amarok nor pidgin are responding to any audio.
[01:33] <aszwet1> thanks i'll start undoing everything :)
[01:33] <pedrotmartinez> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49753/
[01:33] <pedrotmartinez> here is the output
[01:34] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, looking
[01:34] <kitche> naxa: huh gtk is just a toolkit really
[01:34] <Gnea> Pir8: sounds like you have a half-duplex soundcard and a rogue process still has control of it. try this:  sudo lsof | grep dsp
[01:34] <pedrotmartinez> ok, thanks robdig
[01:34] <pedrotmartinez> I will be eternally glad if I can solve this
[01:34] <X-nor> kitche: naxa: well, what toolkit do most gtk apps use for file chooser?
[01:34] <Pir8> Gnea,  hmmmm how do I know it is a half-duplex soundcard ?
[01:35] <naxa> kitche: erm, ok, what i want is an icon view for "file open" window. I cannot select the right pictures from 1000+ pictures without seeing them... where could i ask for this feature?
[01:35] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm, kinda sparse. what is the output from lspci | grep -i network
[01:35] <X-nor> kitche: naxa: KDE with its kioslaves is a lot more powerful than most gtk solutions, at any rate
[01:35] <blind> macd: well, i tried logging into gdm and after i entered the username/password, it just brought me to a blank brown screen (with a pointer... but nothing else is loading)
[01:35] <Gnea> Pir8: because you can only run one sound app at a time. full duplex would allow multiple sound programs to run simultanously.
[01:35] <remu> anyone know how to fix the samba issue? my windows box is hosting the files, im trying to access them from my ubuntu machine, the video stutters and lags when i play it, however it does not do that when i a play the files through windows, anyone?
[01:35] <kitche> X-nor: good to know what I knew already
[01:35] <Pir8> I see
[01:35] <pedrotmartinez> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49754/
[01:35] <pedrotmartinez> this is
[01:35] <naxa> X-nor: it is right, but i don't really like KDE in other ways...
[01:36] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, looking
[01:36] <macd> blind, yeah, thats expected, you need to fix your networking issue, then reboot in normal mode.
[01:36] <Pir8> well I have been able to run pidgin and amarok together in the past and also watch movies....all at once in some cases.
[01:36] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text???
[01:36] <blind> how do i fix my networking issue if i can't log in?
[01:36] <Pir8> Gnea, that command returned nothing
[01:36] <zloog> #gnome
[01:36] <naxa> X-nor: i tryed it a feveral times, but i always go back to gnome becouse i just can't get used to kde... it's frustrating for me, even if i learn how to do
[01:36] <kompute1> I don't know how to open Ocra
[01:36] <macd> blind, at console, hitting crtl+alt+f3
[01:36] <naxa> things
[01:36] <Gnea> Pir8: try this one: sudo lsof | grep libasound
[01:37] <Pir8> aaah yes bunch of stuff shows up for that one
[01:37] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, the system is recognizing it, so that is good
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> yes
[01:37] <Gnea> Pir8: could be esd or something else software that's allowing it
[01:37] <blind> macd: ctrl+alt+f3 (as well as all the other ttys) doesn't give me a login.
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> and that makes me crazy
[01:37] <pedrotmartinez> what can I do?
[01:37] <macd> blind, hitting enter doesnt bring one up?
[01:37] <anton__> I don't wanna have to configure a shitload of stuff....we had it working a couple of weeks ago, and now it's f*cked...
[01:37] <anton__> why?
[01:37] <Pir8> So how does one get out of this mess (without rebooting and or logging out) :)
[01:37] <tritium> anton__: watch the language, please
[01:38] <blind> macd: nope.
[01:38] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text??? I don't know how to open Ocra, I tried installing Ksayit and KTTSmgr, but none of them seem to work. Does anyone have experince with Text-to-Speech?
[01:38] <anton__> *nod*
[01:38] <macd> blind, I dunno then :/
[01:38] <macd> blind, I have a feeling one of us is missing some detail though
[01:38] <Gnea> anton__: don't know, but if you want to do any kind of networking, then it's something you'll need to learn.
[01:38] <anton__> Gnea: Like the simplest thing ever, setting up a LAN...
[01:39] <blind> It's quite possible. I never had this much trouble with *my* dapper installation and the same card.
[01:39] <anton__> what are the advantages of linux when you can't even get simple things to work?
[01:39] <macd> blind, do you have other kernel versions to boot, or just one?
[01:39] <Gnea> anton__: it is for many of us... but then we've already been through the swamp that it takes to learn it :)
[01:39] <blind> no, i've got some others, i think.
[01:39] <X-nor> naxa: the problem is the aversion to being modular, most software suffers from that
[01:39] <zloog> does anyone know what --gtk-debug actually does?
[01:39] <anton__> I tried letting firestarter configure it for me, but it says that eth1 wasn't ready.
[01:40] <kazol> Do you guys know of any more GUI IRC clients (except konversation, xchat, irssi) with DCC support?
[01:40] <Gnea> anton__: well the way i see it, you've got 2 choices: buckle down and read and figure it out, or sit here and cry about how unfair life is.
[01:40] <X-nor> naxa: you can't just pop in another file manager - you MUST use what the author chose.. that kind of thing
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: i'm not sure what is this meaning becouse of my lacking english knowledge but is there a(n even temporary) solution? :)
[01:40] <quaal> anyone use a gamepad in ubuntu
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: too bad...
[01:40] <Gnea> quaal: yes
[01:40] <kitche> x-nor: well techinally you can use another file manager if you want to
[01:40] <anton__> Gnea: Nah, I'll get some down-to-earth linux ppl to help.
[01:40] <naxa> X-nor: nautilus has icon view... maybe it can be patched?
[01:40] <quaal> Gnea, which
[01:40] <X-nor> naxa: i might be able to find something. but don't ever count on a binary path
[01:40] <Pir8> hah found it
[01:41] <B_166-ER-X> !trackerd
[01:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackerd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <Pir8> Gnea believe it or not I had two torrent downloads.....killed those and sound is back again!
[01:41] <Gnea> anton__: good luck with that.
[01:41] <Pir8> go figure.
[01:41] <B_166-ER-X> !trackerdIsEatingMyCpuAlive
[01:41] <naxa> X-nor: i love to do make install
[01:41] <Gnea> Pir8: lol weird
[01:41] <otto_> is there a file in ubuntu similar to /etc/ttys for freebsd?
[01:41] <X-nor> naxa: err, binary patch. you will have to rebuild GTK, probably edit it
[01:41] <macd> naxa, thats the beauty of opensource, patch it, submit, watch it become.
[01:41] <anton__> Gnea: Yeah, I know...most of them are up in the clouds, thinking great stuff about themselves...anyway, too ot. bye.
[01:41] <naxa> macd: :)
[01:41] <metropinko> Hey all, I just bought a refurbed comp with 7.04.  I'm trying to use the update manager and I don't know what my admin password is
[01:41] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: just disable trackerd if you don't want to use it
[01:41] <kompute1> Does anyone use a TTS application to have the computer read text??? I don't know how to open Ocra, I tried installing Ksayit and KTTSmgr, but none of them seem to work. Does anyone have experince with Text-to-Speech?
[01:42] <lleonard> torrent downloading killed sound?  wow strange!  what torrent client (just curious)
[01:42] <otto_> MetaBot, use your password
[01:42] <B_166-ER-X> kitche 'how'?
[01:42] <naxa> X-nor: if you could give me a hint i would be happy to rebuild...
[01:42] <Pir8> Gnea there were two odd listing in the "sudo lsof | grep libasound" which were processes running as /usr/bin/ something....seemed odd
[01:42] <kitche> metropinko: it's what your userpassword is
[01:42] <Gnea> Pir8: yeah, lsof rocks for finding processes that aren't working right :)
[01:42] <LjL> kompute1, the only decent TTS engine there is around is Festival, i bet all those applications you've tried need it installed. what language do you need it for?
[01:42] <Pir8> Gnea thanks for your help though! much appreciated.
[01:42] <X-nor> naxa: I'm not sure what, I generally don't do that kind of stuff. and many people are VERY averse and hostile so watch where you ask
[01:42] <Gnea> Pir8: you're welcome, and happy new years
[01:43] <otto_> anyone know how I could add another terminal with a custom getty script?
[01:43] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm, kinda sparse. what is the output from grep -i eth[01] /var/log/syslog
[01:43] <Pir8> Gnea you too
[01:43] <X-nor> naxa: especially the ones who wrote the file open dialog
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> robdig
[01:43] <metropinko> i tried that, but there kitche, but there seems to be another admin username set up on here
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> I think I have done a very big mistake
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: you could be right...
[01:43] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: what is that?
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: but it is also true, that many will turn from linux becouse of that...
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> I have seen I hadn't installed linux-restricted-modules
[01:43] <X-nor> naxa: you will have to change the GtkFileChooser class probably
[01:43] <pedrotmartinez> it  could be the reason
[01:43] <naxa> X-nor: vista comes with more eye-candy icon viewing what is also useful
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: it's okay
[01:44] <hvgotcodes> hey my super key is not working in awesome wm
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> after installed it, I think I have to reboot
[01:44] <kompute1> LjL, hey again, I need it in english, KTTS was aking me to locate Festival, but I didn't know where to point it and /usr/bin/festival dd not work
[01:44] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: yes, you need to do that. I have the same card, and it started right up with restricted driver
[01:44] <Quentin> Hey there :)
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: i just don't know what should i add to it
[01:44] <tritium> pedrotmartinez: use the restricted manager
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> I am going to reboot
[01:44] <Shpook> Hello everyone. Is there a way to install 32-bit packages on a 64-bit system? I installed PulseAudio, and in order for Firefox and Flash to output sound to PulseAudio, I have to install a specific package. Are there any generic 32-bit wrappers?
[01:44] <metropinko> i get this message: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> and see if it works
[01:44] <naxa> X-nor: and where to get the source :D (for ubuntu, by the way i think all is the same)
[01:44] <Quentin> Please, is there anyone in here who a programm which could draw a graphic representation of  a postgres database ?
[01:44] <pedrotmartinez> I will be back
[01:45] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: good luck
[01:45] <pedrotmartinez> thanks :)
[01:45] <LjL> kompute1: ok, start by doing « echo "This is a test." | festival --tts » to see if festival itself works
[01:45] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: See System -> Preferences -> Indexing Preferences and Disable indexing/watching. that will do what you want
[01:45] <X-nor> naxa: yes, it's the same for everything, whether you wrote your own distro or have apt. tarballs, cvs, svn, etc
[01:45] <naxa> um, yeah.. i guess
[01:45] <X-nor> naxa: make sure it builds before you do any patching :P
[01:46] <Quentin> please, nobody heard about something like that ?
[01:46] <B_166-ER-X> kitche do i have to reboot or something ?  cause i did this and i see no difference
[01:46] <naxa> X-nor: good idea :D
[01:46] <hvgotcodes> can anyone help me get my super key working?
[01:46] <macd> Quentin, nothing opensource, only some commercial applications.
[01:46] <naxa> X-nor: will you help me further or it's my task from now?
[01:46] <X-nor> naxa: likely someone else has done something regarding gtkfilechooser
[01:46] <Quentin> ok thank you macd
[01:46] <kompute1> LjL BRB, downloading it
[01:46] <BlaenkDenum> can someone PLEASE help me out here, I'm trying to achieve the opposite effect of the -S flag on the zip command (-S INCLUDES hidden files and folders, I want to exclude them)
[01:46] <macd> Quentin, if you want a web based management you can try phppgsqladmin
[01:46] <X-nor> naxa: sense the extent of my code is Java and (now) Ruby
[01:47] <X-nor> naxa: *since
[01:47] <kitche> B_166-ER-X: check You can disable it in ->System ->Preferences ->Sessions. as well since it might be in there on bootup it will start
[01:47] <phosphoricx> This is probably a simple question, somehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[01:47] <silvio> is the ubuntu 7.10 dekstop install cd, a live cd?
[01:47] <phosphoricx> I'm using Gutsy
[01:47] <wols> silvio: yes
[01:47] <Shpook> X-nor: How was it learning Ruby? I'm starting to read and learn it now, and it seems simple enough, while still powerful.
[01:47] <phosphoricx> installed, not liveCD
[01:47] <quaal> Gnea, which gamepad
[01:47] <silvio> wols; thankyou.
[01:47] <LjL> kompute1: you'll also need a voice besides the "festival" package itself. get festvox-kallpc16k for male american english
[01:48] <naxa> X-nor: I know no programming language except basic pascal :D
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> it didn't work
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> so we have to continue looking...
[01:48] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: did you go to system->administration->restricted drivers manager?
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> yes
[01:48] <naxa> X-nor: but no problem, i can do things based on other people's simple scripts. much of simple scripts altogether will give an ugly but working program...
[01:48] <X-nor> naxa: yeah, not like I could help
[01:48] <Shpook> Is there a way to install 32-bit packages in a 64-bit system?
[01:48] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: and was the intel driver enabled?
[01:48] <pedrotmartinez> it that place I have the package "in use"
[01:49] <pedrotmartinez> yes, it is
[01:49] <wols> Shpook: chroot
[01:49] <naxa> X-nor: ok... maybe i go and check nautilus's source, too
[01:49] <macd> Shpook, yes. chroot
[01:49] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> Shpook,  theres a way you can do a 32bit chroot.. good luck. :)
[01:49] <metropinko> Can anyone help me locate my admin username and password (7.04)?
[01:49] <X-nor> naxa: alternatively changing the file chooser might be pointless. just load via nautilus
[01:49] <macd> !chroot
[01:49] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:49] <jdolan_> heh, i hope i don't need a chroot also.
[01:49] <Shpook> Thanks everyone, that's all the guidance I need. Much Appreciated!
[01:49] <wols> metropinko: there is only the password for your user, not "admin password"
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  use live cd, look in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:49] <jdolan_> i just installed ubuntu amd64 on my first ever 64 bit box.
[01:49] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: is iwconfig showing any wireless cards now?
[01:49] <Willabee> is there a shockwave for linux/
[01:50] <X-nor> Willabee: no, but check out WINE
[01:50] <jdolan_> and lo and behold binary games don't want to run, flash doesn't work, ..
[01:50] <pedrotmartinez> no
[01:50] <Willabee> ok
[01:50] <pedrotmartinez> no wireless extensions
[01:50] <macd> jdolan_, surprise surprise.
[01:50] <kompute1> LjL what are the other voices I can install and do i gut apt-get install them?
[01:50] <macd> jdolan_, unless you crave 64bit, just run 32bit.
[01:50] <metropinko> i'm using that password when I try to use the update manager, but I get this message: The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:50] <naxa> X-nor: i want no workaround. I want file chooser to be ok forever.
[01:50] <X-nor> at least Ubuntu is nice and tells you tainted drivers
[01:51] <naxa> X-nor: i myself find it almost unbeliveable that it's not done already
[01:51] <X-nor> naxa: always would be a workaround though. patch it yourself and you must update for eternity
[01:51]  * macd knows the hardy 64bit flash works on gutsy.
[01:51] <CaBlGuY> !DVD
[01:51] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:51] <LjL> kompute1: yes, of course, both festival and the voices can be obtained with apt-get or Synaptic. do an « apt-cache search festival » to list all the voices, or « apt-cache search festival english » for just the english ones
[01:51] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: do you have both a wireless card and a wired connection?
[01:51] <naxa> X-nor: I'm sorry to say that but sometimes linux's programmers are just plain stupid when it comes to the "human-friendly" thing
[01:51] <Willabee> so following this tutorial should work right
[01:51] <Willabee> http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/12/installing-wine-in-gutsy-gibbon.html
[01:51] <pedrotmartinez> I dont know the difference...
[01:52] <naxa> X-nor: no problem since I would suggest the patch to be added then :D
[01:52] <silvio> does the ubuntu 7.10 desktop install/live cd include gcc?
[01:52] <tritium> silvio: no
[01:52] <naxa> X-nor: it would be easy to collect supporters, and someone would clean up the code
[01:52] <kitche> silvio: yes but it's missing the stuff it needs to compile
[01:52] <pedrotmartinez> I am sorry but I am spanish, and maybe my english is not fine sometimes
[01:52] <pedrotmartinez> I do my best...
[01:52] <X-nor> naxa: also, check out gconf-editor. something might be hidden there, as the babied down configuration pages suggest
[01:52] <tritium> silvio: if you want to build from source, install the "build-essential" meta-package
[01:53] <naxa> X-nor: I'll rember that, thanks
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> at this moment there is a wired connection in this room
[01:53] <Willabee> i speak spanish pretty well
[01:53] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: your iwconfig that you pasted earlier showed only two interfaces lo which is the loopback, and eth0. I'm curious if eth0 is your wireless card or if it is your normal ethernet card
[01:53] <naxa> X-nor: now i have to go, bye!
[01:53] <metropinko> when i enter my password for the update manager, i get this message: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '50331651' '--progress-str' 'Please wait, this can take some time.' '--finish-str' 'Update is complete' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpWFq6tx' as user root.
[01:53] <metropinko> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[01:53] <metropinko> Anyone know what to do?
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> oh
[01:53] <silvio> ok, thanks tritium and kitche. :(
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> I think it is the ethernet one
[01:53] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: btw, you english is fine. there is a spanish channel if you want to seek help there, #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <pedrotmartinez> the one I am connected right now
[01:53] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  by default only the FIRST user you made has sudo rights. If you are trying to sudo as a differentuser. you might be getting that error.
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> I have done, but there was no lucky
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> because of that I came here
[01:54] <naxa> X-nor: thank you for talking!
[01:54] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ok, so iwconfig isn't seeing your wireless card at all.
[01:54] <metropinko> is there anyway to find out what that username and password is?
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> I think it doesn't
[01:54] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: does another interface show up if you type ifconfig?
[01:54] <pedrotmartinez> lets see
[01:54] <CaBlGuY> !fakeroot
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <pedrotmartinez> no
[01:55] <pedrotmartinez> only eth0 and lo
[01:55] <soldats> !sudo
[01:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:55] <CaBlGuY> ummmmm  ok, I got some major issues goin on here...
[01:55] <Dr_willis_> metropinko,  look int he /etc/passwd file for the user with the id of 1000, hes normally the first user. as for the password.. No idea there. You can reset/set the password from a live cd
[01:55] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hmm
[01:55] <soldats> CaBlGuY, did you see
[01:55] <CaBlGuY> someone wanna help me out with this..    fakeroot dpkg-dev patch
[01:55] <tritium> metropinko: or, you can boot in to single-user (recovery) mode, and reset that user's passwd
[01:56] <Shpook> So with a chroot setup, will 32-bit packages automatically install into it? and will a 64-bit application outside the chroot be able to access a dependency inside?
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> soldats,   I'm sorry..  no..
[01:56] <soldats> CaBlGuY,  i may not know but just ask and if someone who knows about it will surely answer
[01:56]  * CaBlGuY directs soldats  attention to his former post...  /\
[01:57] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: can you paste the output of this command? dmesg | grep ipw3945
[01:57] <CaBlGuY> but actually, my main concern right now is I'm having issue with playing DVD's and I have all the correct codecs and apps installed..
[01:57] <phosphoricx> any ideas?
[01:57] <soldats> CaBlGuY, well you were looking at fake root so i assume you want su or sudo, but the people here are volunteers so just ask away and i hope someone can help you
[01:57] <earthbound01> Is it howdy
[01:57] <kitche> CaBlGuY: what is your issue with fakeroot?
[01:58] <tritium> pedrotmartinez: if it's more than 3 lines, please don't paste here.  use pastebin
[01:58] <Willabee> ok i have wine installed
[01:58] <soldats> CaBlGuY, 0o is it a restriced one
[01:58] <Willabee> so where should i download/install firefox and shockwave
[01:58] <naxa> X-nor: sorry one more question. Which package contains gnome source and how can i get it?
[01:58] <robdig> tritium: pedrotmartinez thanks, i meant to say pastebin...he's been using it already
[01:58] <Dr_willis_> Willabee,  firefox is in the repos.. 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[01:58] <tritium> robdig: :)
[01:58] <naxa> X-nor: and where will i find the files after getting the package? :D
[01:58] <metropinko> tri: when i reboot in safe mode, how do i go about changing the password
[01:58] <ewook> Question: is webmin a discontinued package with the 7.10 release?
[01:58] <cheuk> hi, can someone tell me how i can give a non-root user access to well-known ports?
[01:58] <CaBlGuY> kitche,   I dunno actually..  I was trying to enable libdvdread3  and that's the error I kept getting..
[01:59] <tritium> naxa: apt-get source <packagename>
[01:59] <soldats> naxa, run where firefox in a terminal
[01:59] <naxa> soldats: good hint...
[01:59] <pedrotmartinez> http://pastebin.com/m65c724f4
[01:59] <sonja> how do i share my printer?
[01:59] <pedrotmartinez> here it is
[01:59] <CaBlGuY> and I was using sudo when running the command..
[01:59] <metropinko> sorry, i've only been using ubuntu for two days and don't know very much about programming (obviously)
[01:59] <sonja> with my housemates?
[01:59] <c01100011> anyway to get shortcuts to webapps in Avant Window Navigator.
[01:59] <naxa> tritium: don't you know which package is "gnome" ? :D
[01:59] <tritium> naxa: there are several
[02:00] <pedrotmartinez> what is the package of the kernel sources?
[02:00] <tritium> naxa: gnome is not simply one package
[02:00] <Pir8> If I have a dvd (not as an image but) as raw files...how can I play it without burning to a dvd ?
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> gnome is a way of life. :)
[02:00] <ewook> naxa: apt-cache search gnome
[02:00] <Dr_willis_> Pir8,  vlc can play the files.
[02:00] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: ah, there is a switch somewhere on your laptop that turns wireless card on and off, i think it is set to off right now, can you check?
[02:00] <Pir8> nice
[02:00] <Pir8> Thanks Dr_willis
[02:00] <Shpook> Anyone here have a PulseAudio sound server set up, especially 64-bit?
[02:00] <ewook> Pir8: vlc perhaps
[02:00] <pedrotmartinez> mmm
[02:01] <pedrotmartinez> let's check
[02:01] <naxa> tritium: i mean what packages i need to build a new gtkfilechooser
[02:01] <naxa> ewook: thanks for hint
[02:01] <CaBlGuY> kitche,   so, any ideas?
[02:01] <tritium> naxa: likely a gtk package, not a gnome package
[02:02] <naxa> tritium: how would you find out? what are the google keywords? :)
[02:02] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:02] <elrenardo> pir8 : try to mount it with mount and a dvd type ?
[02:02] <overridex> is there a log of when vino connections connect and disconnect anywhere?
[02:02] <naxa> tritium: google is my friend but i don't speak his language yet...
[02:02] <biggiboy> ho
[02:02] <biggiboy> hi
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> mmm
[02:02] <Pir8> elrenardo, it isn't an image, simply the dvd contents extracted as VOB files and such.
[02:02] <ewook> !locale channel
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locale channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <CaBlGuY> kitche, ??
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> I cannot find a switch
[02:02] <pedrotmartinez> but
[02:03] <CaBlGuY> or anyone that know anyhting about DVD playback..
[02:03] <kitche> CaBlGuY: never seen that error
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> Pir8,  ive watached vob files with vlc befor
[02:03] <tritium> naxa: one of the libgtk packages
[02:03] <soldats> naxa, goole the google syntax ie. define:boy will give definitions of the word boy
[02:03] <pedrotmartinez> in the F1, I can see the draw of that in other color
[02:03] <naxa> tritium: thank you! :) bye
[02:03] <pedrotmartinez> and in a position like the | is in the number one
[02:03] <Pir8> elrenardo, absolutely, vlc works...sweeet :) thanks  :)
[02:04] <Gnea> quaal: http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/p990.htm
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> but when I try it with Alt or Ctrl it doesnt happen anything
[02:04] <biggiboy> does anyone know if ATI 128  rage  all in wonder will work with wobbly windows
[02:04] <nixnoob> biggiboy, yes it will
[02:04] <biggiboy> its bugging me that it won't work
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> ey!!!!!
[02:04] <quaal> Gnea, ah ok
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> I did it!!!!
[02:04] <quaal> looks like the logitech dual action
[02:04] <foso> can anyone tell me what program the dock in this screenshot is? http://www.ubuntu-art.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/70611-2.jpg ?
[02:04] <pedrotmartinez> robdig!
[02:04] <quaal> which i just tried
[02:04] <quaal> works fine
[02:04] <biggiboy> nixnoob how
[02:04] <elrenardo> credit back to Dr_willis_   ;)
[02:04] <nixnoob> biggiboy which driver are you using?
[02:04] <Gnea> quaal: it's pretty much pnp
[02:04] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: hurray!
[02:04] <biggiboy> hang on i'll tell you
[02:05] <uzerzero> foso: that is AWN
[02:05] <Dr_willis_> Huh? :)
[02:05]  * Dr_willis_ wakes up
[02:05] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:05] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: so you may need to reboot with it on to get it going
[02:05] <foso> uzerzero thanks, i have tried that before without getting it to showup anywhere besides my apps tab
[02:05] <nixnoob> foso, its avant-window-navigator
[02:06] <pedrotmartinez> thank you very much!!
[02:06] <biggiboy> ati - ATI Mach8, Mach32,
[02:06] <robdig> pedrotmartinez: np
[02:06] <biggiboy> at generic one
[02:06] <X-nor> is there a preferred way to keeping development versions of certain libraries?
[02:06] <overridex> is there a log of when vino connections connect and disconnect anywhere?
[02:06] <uzerzero> fozo: do you have compiz-fusion installed? awn won't work without that
[02:06] <tritium> X-nor: keeping?  What do you mean?
[02:06] <biggiboy> is that bad nix
[02:06] <foso> uzerzero yes i do
[02:06] <nixnoob> biggiboy, try using the new fglrx driver from the ATI site I believe its called Catalyst 7-12
[02:06] <X-nor> tritium: well, installing without trashing the distribution packages
[02:06] <nixnoob> biggiboy, you made a mistake with ATI+Linux, better to go with Nvidia
[02:07] <tritium> X-nor: there are many -dev packages in the repos
[02:07] <c01100011> is there a prism package anywhere  ?
[02:07] <uzerzero> foso: and you say that awn won't show up on your desktop?
[02:07] <biggiboy> nix i just found the card laying around the house
[02:07] <tritium> X-nor: and they don't trash your install
[02:07] <biggiboy> : - )
[02:07] <nixnoob> foso, I think the AWN in the ubuntu repos is broken...
[02:07] <X-nor> tritium: development versions of libraries
[02:07] <biggiboy> nix what do you recomend to buy
[02:07] <biggiboy> cheap
[02:07] <Willabee> ok
[02:08] <nixnoob> foso, try the daily
[02:08] <tritium> !enter | biggiboy
[02:08] <ubotu> biggiboy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:08] <biggiboy> has to be pci though
[02:08] <phosphoricx> hello, I have a question about desktop switching?
[02:08] <Willabee> i'm trying to install a windows firefox so i can run shockwave things
[02:08] <uzerzero> foso: yes, try compiling awn from source, i had to do this on an earlier installation
[02:08] <Willabee> i have the install file, but now i'm stuck
[02:08] <Dr_willis_> I used AWN from --> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy avant-window-navigator
[02:08] <biggiboy> ok
[02:08] <nixnoob> biggiboy, if you go with any Nvidia card with 128 ram it will vastly outperform the ATI in a *nix box
[02:08] <tritium> X-nor: yes, each library in the repos has a lib package and a lib-dev package.  The lib package has the the shared libs, and the -dev package has the header files.
[02:08] <biggiboy> my ati is 128
[02:09] <Mechdave> phosphoricx, just ask, don't ask to ask
[02:09] <X-nor> tritium: yes, those headers are FOR development, but they are releases
[02:09] <macd> Im having an issue with mtop being configured via dpkg: http://pastie.caboo.se/132598
[02:09] <rich1> hi.  how do i uninstall a deb file.
[02:09] <bigjohnto> i have a share on windows that i want to mount on linux, the share is being mounted via smbshare, now the issue is that the smbconf file either specifies a domain or a workgroup.  the user that is mounting the share is a local user on a server, now the server itself is part of a domain.  the local user has admin privs.  When i try to mount the directory as the local user it just fails since the user is not part of a domain and in th
[02:09] <schizophreni> can someone help me instlaling my webcam?
[02:09] <X-nor> tritium: devel versions, as in cvs version of qt
[02:09] <nixnoob> biggiboy, I think you can get some 256 cards for under 50$ now, perhaps an FX series or a 7000 series card will do just fine
[02:10] <biggiboy> k thanks
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> !webcam | schizophreni
[02:10] <ubotu> schizophreni: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:10] <foso> uzerzero, im mostly a newb, is there somewhere that tells you how to do that?
[02:10] <biggiboy> thanks for your help
[02:10] <nixnoob> no prob
[02:10] <schizophreni> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankw
[02:10] <rich1> !ubotu deb
[02:10] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[02:10] <uzerzero> foso: most compiling consists of ./configure, sudo make, sudo make install
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> schizophreni,  good luck FINDING a webcam that works :)
[02:10] <nixnoob> seriously, don't overdo the ubotu thing guys its annoying.
[02:10] <phosphoricx> Wsomehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[02:10] <wols> nixnoob: you cannot buy FX series and you seriously wouldnÄt want to
[02:10] <rich1> !ubotu remove deb
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove deb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <X-nor> tritium: like is there a way to set the precedence of /lib, /usr/lib, /usr/local/lib, and just delete the local one if it causes problems?
[02:10] <uzerzero> foso if not, try google. maybe something like awn compile instructions ubuntu
[02:10] <wols> rich1: aptitude remove <package>
[02:11] <mchao1> hey guys, I am trying a live cd on a friends computer and it just hangs after we select run or install ubuntu
[02:11] <tritium> X-nor: not really, no
[02:11] <rich1> wols: even if i didn't install it with aptitude?
[02:11] <X-nor> tritium: so, chroot jail is the only option?
[02:11] <kompute1> LjL - I installed the voices, not I get "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp" when i echo text and pipe it through festival
[02:11] <nixnoob> mchao1, edit the boot line and remove quiet splash and tell us what it says before it hangs.
[02:11] <wols> X-nor: /etc/ld.so.conf but you don't want to play with it
[02:11] <foso> uzerzero,thanks, ill see what i can do
[02:11] <tritium> X-nor: I'd definitely use schroot
[02:11] <wols> rich1: is it a .deb?
[02:11] <otto_> is there a way to make adduser read from the standard input like 'adduser -f -' in freebsd?
[02:12] <mchao1> nixnoob, how do I edit the boot line?
[02:12] <bigjohnto>  i have a share on windows that i want to mount on linux, the share is being mounted via smbshare, now the issue is that the smbconf file either specifies a domain or a workgroup.  the user that is mounting the share is a local user on a server, now the server itself is part of a domain.  the local user has admin privs.  When i try to mount the directory as the local user it just fails since the user is not part of a domain and in t
[02:12] <rich1> wols: yes.  the kind you click and it brings up an install window.
[02:12] <nixnoob> mchao1, I think you can press "e" at the menu to edit the boot line.
[02:12] <wols> !repeat | bigjohnto
[02:12] <ubotu> bigjohnto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:12] <LjL> kompute1, uhm, are you on KDE?
[02:12] <wols> rich1: then aptitude will work
[02:12] <biggiboy> later
[02:12] <rich1> wols: thanks.  i'll try now.
[02:13] <X-nor> tritium: wait, isn't there ld library path or something. but not sure if it's actually acted upon by the loader
[02:13] <phalacee> is Scribus available for GNOME, or is it KDE only?
[02:13] <kazol2> Does anyone here know of GUI IRC clients (besides konversation, Xchat, and irssi)?
[02:13] <kompute1> LjL no just plain ubuntu (gnome)
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> kazol2: there's kvirc
[02:13] <X-nor> kazol2: can use Pidgin but not sure how that works as it's mainly an IM client
[02:13] <Willabee> also, is there anyway to load gameguard using wine/
[02:13] <nixnoob> kazo12, pidgin and gaim have built in IRC clients
[02:13] <sunogbaga> kazol2: irssi isn't gui
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> X-nor: thats blasphemy...lol
[02:13] <LjL> kompute1: oh, i thought you were on KDE given you tried kttsd etc... i don't know, i'm on KDE myself, it's possible that /dev/dsp is blocked by the GNOME sound daemon i guess
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> pidgin is a great IM client.. not a good irc client
[02:14] <kitche> kazol2: well considering irssi is not a GUI client I would look at xchat-gnome and some of the kde variants
[02:14] <stunatra> kazol2, LostIRC
[02:14] <kompute1> LjL i tried kttsd because it was the only choice i was given
[02:14] <kazol2> sunogbaga: I know, problem is, the clients I've tried don't have good DCC support.
[02:14] <kazol2> DCC downloads stop after only 1.9GiB.
[02:14] <nixnoob> only
[02:14] <X-nor> I use irssi but i have like 26 vertical lines maximum
[02:15] <sunogbaga> kazol2: i haven't tried dccing files more than 1G but i think i'm fine with irssi's dcc
[02:15] <Shpook> !pulseaudio
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulseaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <LjL> kompute1, what are you looking for exactly? a screen reader, or just a wait to read text files aloud...?
[02:16] <nixnoob> anyone running gutsy on a Asus C90s?
[02:16] <sunogbaga> kazol2: i think there's an irc client for firefox.
[02:16] <nbeck> Can anyone offer some serious help for a noob, regarding a foul-up I made while trying to edit the splash screen in the root menu?
[02:16] <Evolution2> hey guys I was wondering why my partition icons are not showing up under "storage media" they are mounted and I can access them from /media/... help please
[02:16] <nixnoob> nbeck ask more specific questions
[02:17] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> i'm getting "size mismatch" left and right... are the repos having some problems?
[02:18] <otto_> does ubuntu use a different adduser than other distros?
[02:18] <rich1> uggghhh!!! is anyone else having trouble playing yahoo chess using opera?
[02:18] <kompute1> LjL I'm looking for TTS - I have KSayIt to work, but theres a lot of echo in the voice
[02:18] <nbeck> I edited the root menu to adjust my splash screen to VGA=791 and  I put it in the wrong place.  Now my ubuntu will not boot up.  It's saying please append a correct "root=" and won't even start up in recovery mode.  I need somebody to go through the command errors I have written down and tell me how to edit out the VGA=791 if that's even possible.
[02:18] <kitche> otto_: not that I know of they might have linked it to pam or soemthing
[02:19] <otto_> kitche, the man page on my gutsy box is different than the man pages anywhere else...specifically there are no singlechar options like -f
[02:19] <wolo> Yoyoyo anyone here using a PPC?
[02:19] <X-nor> man -f
[02:19] <LjL> kompute1: echo? that's weird... Festival's voices certainly aren't top quality (not comparable to most commercial TTS, no), but *echo* is kind of weird
[02:19] <X-nor> whoops
[02:19] <Shpook> Okay, I have a chroot set up. Now when I type "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy" in the terminal, I get this message: "id: cannot find name for group ID 120"
[02:19] <nbeck> It's saying Kernel panic-not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs ou unknown-block (8,3).
[02:19] <nixnoob> nbeck, you can edit the boot line on the fly from the grub menu using the "e" key on the appropriate kernel, once it boots you can then edit your /grub/menu.lst from the desktop environment
[02:20] <X-nor> otto_: man man shows man -f as an option, though
[02:20] <kompute1> LjL any idea how I can use AT&T voices or other voices?
[02:20] <nixnoob> nbeck, you are trying to put the fancy bootsplash with the hand print huh? yes VGA=791 is supposed to be there.
[02:20] <otto_> X-nor, I was referring to the options on man adduser
[02:21] <X-nor> otto_: oh, let me see
[02:21] <nbeck> Yeah, but I think I inserted it in the wrong place because I can't even load anything anymore.
[02:21] <nickrud> otto_, the adduser in ubuntu comes from debian, which was written for debian
[02:21] <nbeck> I hit the E and deleted the vga=791 from the Kernel but it still won't boot up, and next time I restart it's still there.
[02:21] <nixnoob> nbeck, you must be able to get to grub menu?  you can hit escape to choose kernels and then edit its with "e"
[02:22] <LjL> kompute1, not really, i don't think they're supported by festival, i really think you'd have to resort to commercial third-party solutions
[02:22] <nixnoob> nbeck, ofcourse its still there, it only goes away for that one boot, you must have changed something else, try booting from single user mode.
[02:22] <nbeck> Yeah, I did that and got rid of the vga part but it's still not booting.  It's only loading to kernel=panic-not synching VFS.
[02:22] <kompute1> LjL I swiched the audio from aRts to ALSA, that took away the echo
[02:22] <nbeck> How do I go about that nix?
[02:22] <Rufus_> how would i launch a desklet?
[02:22] <pradeep> How do I have multiple versions of glibc present?
[02:23] <Rufus_> !desklet
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <X-nor> otto_: are you thinking about useradd, or just a different distro's adduser?
[02:23] <soldats> Rufus_, which one
[02:23] <nixnoob> nbeck when you hit esc to see the grub menu there should be a kernel listed with the same version as yours but it wil say recovery mode next to it
[02:23] <Rufus_> soldats, the one i downloaded
[02:23] <nixnoob> nbeck, just be careful because you will be logged in as root
[02:23] <nbeck> Yeah, it runs the code and then stops at the same place.
[02:23] <nickrud> otto_, if you want to see it's pedigree, /usr/share/doc/adduser/copyright
[02:23] <pradeep> I have a program which needs an older version of libc
[02:23] <nbeck> Kernel panic, unable to mount root fs ov unknown-block(8,3)
[02:23] <otto_> X-nor, well the man pages I found for adduser online were different than what was on gutsy...what I am trying to do is emulate the freebsd "adduser -f -"
[02:24] <Rufus_> any ideas?
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, even in recovery mode?
[02:24] <nbeck> Yeah
[02:24] <otto_> X-nor, which adds a user using the standard input instead of asking questions
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, I have no idea then.
[02:24] <soldats> Rufus_, whats the name of desklet
[02:24] <Rufus_> DiskSpace
[02:24] <nixnoob> nbeck, try booting from a live disk and reinstalling grub
[02:24] <rich1> has anyone tried playing yahoo chess using opera?  this is killing me.
[02:24] <jimmygoon> yahoo chess?
[02:25] <rich1> yes.  chess on yahoo.
[02:25] <soldats> Rufus_, did you try to run it via command line ie "diskspace" in a terminba'
[02:25] <Shpook> When I type in "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy" I get the error "id: cannot find name for group ID 120"   Anyone know why?
[02:25] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> apt-get giving me size mismatch on half the things i try to install... anyone?
[02:25] <LjL> kompute1: other TTS frontends / screen readers specifically for GNOME aside from "gnome-orca" are "lsr" and "gnopernicus", in case you want to give those a try. the audio quality will still depends on festival though
[02:25] <rich1> opera keeps failing with it.
[02:25] <soldats> terminal
[02:25] <otto_> X-nor, in short, I need to add a user from a script so it can't ask any questions
[02:25] <nbeck> alright.  One last question nix.  Can I write out my kernal and you see if there's any other flaw that stands out on it?
[02:25] <Rufus_> soldats, isnt there a thing in system > preferences?
[02:25] <nickrud> otto_, you are definitely confusing addusers, since the ubuntu one doesn't ask questions
[02:25] <kompute1> LjL I do, but I have no idea how to open orca...
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck , I have nothing to check it against right now cuz my nix box is temporarily out of commision but ill take a look
[02:26] <soldats> Rufus_, yes for disk space you should be able to go to administrator > system monitor for disk usage
[02:26] <nbeck> <2-dec1-490f-9d160bf317255e6fd ro quiet splash vga=791
[02:26] <macd> nickrud, doesnt useradd limit you to only a few accounts?
[02:26] <Rufus_> i mean to launch the desklet
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck, Is that the whole thing?
[02:26] <nbeck> yeah
[02:26] <LjL> kompute1: cannot help you must since i don't have GNOME... if it's not in the menu, you can always try « dpkg -L gnome-orca | grep bin » to see what the main executable program is
[02:26] <X-nor> otto_: oh, you'll have to use useradd I believe
[02:26] <macd> nickrud, err adduser
[02:26] <nixnoob> nbeck try adding root= to the begining of that
[02:26] <WhyAllTehNicksTa> you people are no help
[02:27] <soldats> Rufus_, ahh if it didnt add itself to the menu thne youd have to add it yourself
[02:27] <nbeck> kay, I'll give it a shot.  Appreciated.
[02:27] <Rufus_> where can i find the menu
[02:27] <nickrud> macd, what do you mean? it's designed for use in install scripts, so it can create any account
[02:27] <X-nor> macd: useradd is the command line one, adduser is the interactive one
[02:27] <otto_> nickrud, sure it does, unless there is a way to specify... if I do "adduser user --disabled-login" it will still ask for the username and stuff
[02:28] <soldats> Rufus_, 1 sec
[02:28] <otto_> I'll read the useradd man page
[02:28] <nixnoob> man is brutal
[02:28] <adamonline46> I just got my file server ready to start moving files over.  I was thinking FTP for uploads, for the error checking/speed/filesize reasons.  At the same time I'd like to be able to map the drives from both Linux and WinXP, so I guess I'd need Samba, too, for the Windows aspect of it.  Is there a better protocol than Samba to use for Linux to Linux sharing? Does my plan sound alright?  Is there anyone who's got a fileserver and some ad
[02:28] <ewook> man woman - No manual entry for woman
[02:28] <Shpook> Ugh, this chroot is driving me crazy.
[02:29] <maynards-girl> what version of ubuntu do i need if I'm trying to install ubuntu on a macBook?
[02:29] <nixnoob> adamonline46 yes you need samba
[02:29] <mchao1> nixnoob, thanks that seemed to work
[02:29] <otto_> but I just want to use a function to create a user with the name, homedir, and shell that I specify and NO password
[02:29] <maek> can you do a purge like thing with autoremove? im removing amarok and its got like 20 pkgs left for autoremove and I want to make sure to get all there bits. thanks.
[02:29] <nixnoob> nbeck, sometimes the answer is simple.
[02:29] <maek> maynards-girl: powerpc or intel?
[02:29] <maynards-girl> maek, intel
[02:29] <maek> maynards-girl: you should use x86
[02:30] <maynards-girl> maek, ok thank you
[02:30] <soldats> Rufus_, justa quick question the the applet tell you how mych space you have left, if so ca you try to use nautilus and chack disk space, if not if you rclick on the task bar and add new item there may be a diskspace item
[02:30] <adamonline46> maynards-girl: Don't use the X64 version, your wireless won't work for now...
[02:30] <X-nor> otto_: no password as in disabled account?
[02:30] <maek> maynards-girl: called "standard" from the download page
[02:30] <X-nor> otto_: -p : the default is to disable the account
[02:30] <nixnoob> X64 drivers usually suck.
[02:30] <nickrud> otto_, then you should probably use the --system option
[02:30] <nixnoob> or don't exist
[02:31] <Rufus_> soldats, find it?
[02:31] <otto_> it shouldnt be something a user can log in as
[02:31] <maynards-girl> so the norml 7.10 will work then?
[02:32] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: yes.
[02:32] <maek> maynards-girl: yeah, if you just go to the download page and pick your mirror, you want all the defaults.
[02:32] <santos_luis> hi ppl
[02:32] <robdig> hi
[02:32] <nickrud> otto_, so it's a system user, not a regular user , you probably want --system --no-login --no-create-home
[02:32] <santos_luis> can someone help me with ctags?
[02:32] <otto_> but you should still be able to su into the account as root
[02:32] <soldats> Rufus_, hmm i dont know too much about it i was trying to think of a way for it to work. i havent used gnome in a while i use xfce but im trying to remember how to fix your problem, i used the applet before but i cant remember
[02:32] <maynards-girl> so not the 64bit. just the standard.  thanks all!
[02:32] <soldats> sorry
[02:32] <soldats> ill look into it
[02:32] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: i would suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[02:33] <santos_luis> my ctgas dont map functions like scanf socket
[02:33] <nickrud> otto_, then I don't think you can have --no-login, since that prevents a shell being assigned
[02:33] <Burlynn> maynards-girl: your wireless more than likely wont work on a fresh install without additional drivers
[02:33] <maynards-girl> burlynn, thank you
[02:34] <Burlynn> no problem
[02:34] <CUBeR64> Hi, I was just wondering, if I had Xubuntu installed, would I be able to change the interface to blackbox rather than xfce?
[02:34] <nickrud> otto_, or more correctly, the shell is assigned to /bin/false
[02:34] <otto_> nickrud, the equivalent that I am trying to do is freebsd's adduser with '-w no' which disables the password...it seems like that is the same as --disabled-password on the ubuntu adduser
[02:34] <foso> sudo apt-get install build-essential autotools-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libgnome2-common libgnome2-dev libgnome-desktop-dev libgnome-vfs-dev libgtk2.0-dev libwnck-dev libgconf2-dev libglib2.0-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libgnomevfs2-0 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome2-0 libwnck-common python-gtk2 python-gconf bzr gnome-common python-dev python-gtk2-dev python-cairo-dev python-gconf python-gnome2-dev gnome-icon-theme python-glade2 librsvg2-common, python-gno
[02:34] <foso> me2-extras
[02:34] <therethinker> If I have an ubuntu install, and I move the HDD to a completely different computer, will it work?
[02:35] <otto_> nickrud, --disabled-password still allows login just not with a password
[02:35] <foso> sorry all, wrong window!
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> therethinker: Maybe.
[02:35] <therethinker> Odd-rationale: exactly what I figured, thanks
[02:35] <Burlynn> therethinker: it could, but its not reccomended .. your running on totally different hardware
[02:35] <nickrud> otto_, sounds similar. I don't have any experience with bsd at all, though
[02:36] <otto_> nickrud, neither do I :) that's why this is difficult to move over to ubuntu since I dont really know what the options do
[02:36] <X-nor> otto_: right, it's not just switching to a new distro..
[02:37] <santos_luis> back
[02:37] <nickrud> otto_, su-ing from root is logging in, remember
[02:37] <Rufus_> how do i install adesklets?
[02:38] <Rufus_> the package
[02:38] <Dr_willis_> !desklets
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Rufus_> !adesklets
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adesklets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.   I saw a tutorial on that once..  I just went to the desklets web site and downloaded it.
[02:38] <nickrud> !info adesklets
[02:38] <ubotu> adesklets: interactive Imlib2 console for the X Window System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-2build1 (gutsy), package size 204 kB, installed size 572 kB
[02:38] <nickrud> Rufus_, you'd look for it in synaptic
[02:39] <Dr_willis_> theres a 'desklets' and an 'adesklets' it seems :)
[02:39] <CUBeR64> Hi, I was just wondering, if I had Xubuntu installed, would I be able to change the interface to blackbox rather than xcfe?
[02:39] <wols_> CUBeR64: yes
[02:40] <CUBeR64> wols_: thank you :)
[02:40] <nickrud> CUBeR64, you can have as many desktops as you like, and switch freely between them
[02:40] <jbwarnken_> hi I have an issue with firefox in ubuntu it keeps greying out and stalling a lot
[02:40] <otto_> nickrud, and X-nor actually...it looks like 'useradd user' might be all I need...I tested it and it has no password but you can 'su user' as root
[02:40] <CUBeR64> nickrud: sweet, thank you :)
[02:40] <otto_> so thanks :)
[02:41] <nickrud> otto_, nothing like the low level commands :)
[02:41] <kitche> jbwarnken_: yeah the greying out is from compiz
[02:41] <jbwarnken_> so what to do then ?
[02:42] <phosphoricx> Somehow I enabled a virtual desktop switcher to appear each time my mouse reaches the edge of my screen, how do I turn it off?
[02:43] <maek> jbwarnken_: its showing up as gray because of compiz, its not slowing down because of it. are you behind a proxy? is your dns setup? do you have your host name in /etc/hosts for your loopback? do you have ipv6 enabled?
[02:43] <magic_ninja> !icewm
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icewm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <magic_ninja> !ice
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <Xplicit> my cd drive is being awkward is it hard to set up my laptop on the same network so i can just use my motherboards network boot option?
[02:43] <phosphoricx> !gnome
[02:43] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:43] <maek> jbwarnken_: sorry if thats not clear. if you were not using compiz you would not notice it because it wouldnt be gray but it would still slow down.
[02:44] <jbwarnken_> well it slows down stops even then goes bakc to normal  just started this and is a nusciance
[02:44] <jbwarnken_> so I switched to Opera
[02:44] <maek> jbwarnken_: the same thing happens to me at work when im behind a proxy but not at home. and this is on my laptop so its the same machine
[02:45] <rich1> jbwarnken_: are you having any flash or java problems with opera?
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> none so far
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> firefox has some quirks  form time to time
[02:45] <rich1> jbwarnken_: try yahoo chess, if you don't mind and see if it works for you.  it never does for me.
[02:45] <jbwarnken_> only thing bothers me I cannto use my Stumbleupon toolbar in Opera
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> jbwarnken_,  heh - thts an addictive addon
[02:46] <phalacee> is Scribus available for GNOME, or is it KDE only?
[02:46] <nickrud> heh. I abandoned that one when I realized what a time sink it was
[02:46] <high-freq> anyone know of a gui asm for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  you can run gnome and kde apps on each others desktop just fine.
[02:47] <mythomaniac> anyone have experience with the gnome-schedule?
[02:47] <phalacee> Dr_willis, really? I had no idea.
[02:47] <jbwarnken_> but no proxies here
[02:47] <phalacee> wow, that makes life alot easier
[02:47] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  its  alwyas been that way. :)  Linux  is so 'inclusive' :) heh heh
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  now running the gnome and kde file managers both at the same time used to cause some issues.. but not much any more.
[02:48] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  of course your memory ussage will increase a bit by using both gnome and kde also.
[02:48] <lextori> I lost power while booting earlier today and now ubuntu won't boot completely, it throws me a few error messages and kicks me to the console(like I'd booted to recovery mode) Any ideas where to start fixing the problem?
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> lextori,  fsck the filesystems for a start.
[02:49] <Burlynn> if your running gnome and install kde apps its got to install all the kde libs also though, which can be large, just an fyi
[02:49] <Dr_willis_> lextori,  look for any error messages also while it boots.
[02:50] <phalacee> Dr_willis, what about the dependencies on KDE and so forth?
[02:50] <tsukasa> question, (slightly wrong channel, but..), i got metacity running as my window manager in os-x's X11, but the gtk2 themes arent working. gtk2 is installed. is there some fundamental thing im not understanding about how ubuntu sets up metacity?
[02:50] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  when you apt-get install whatever-kde-app   it should install them all
[02:50] <high-freq> anyone know of a gui asm for ubuntu?
[02:50] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  i always install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <lextori> Dr_Willis, I've copied a few down, it says that it's attempting to resume from /dev/disk/bu-uuid/(really long hex string I can type out in nessicary)
[02:50]  * nickrud hexes Dr_willis 
[02:50] <astro76> phalacee, it is all handled automatically, but FYI, Scribus is not a KDE app, it's just QT and requires just a qt lib
[02:50] <bewst> Is it expected that the config file installed for my gutsy kernel sets CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y ?
[02:51] <Dr_willis_> !asm
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <phalacee> Dr_willis, I'm using the GUI for ubuntu, but I was wondering if I would need to install something like KDE-Common when I install my first KDE app?
[02:51] <high-freq> asm is assembly as in the programming language
[02:51] <bewst> Every kernel I try to build comes out 6x the size of the ones in the distro
[02:51] <kitche> !info nasm | high-freq
[02:51] <ubotu> high-freq: nasm: General-purpose x86 assembler. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98.38-1.2build1 (gutsy), package size 1520 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[02:51] <Dr_willis_> phalacee,  the package manager handles all the needed deps for the programs. you shouldent have any problems
[02:51] <maek> phalacee: if you install say amarok or k3b it will install all the kde bits you need
[02:51]  * robdig thinks the closest thing to a gui for assembly programming is vi :)
[02:52] <nickrud> lextori, that's the swap partition the uuid is mentioning, the real errors come later
[02:52] <high-freq> ya i know nasm...did'nt know if there was some gui for asm
[02:52] <phalacee> okay, cool
[02:52] <tsukasa> question, (slightly wrong channel, but..), i got metacity running as my window manager in os-x's X11, but the gtk2 themes arent working. gtk2 is installed. is there some fundamental thing im not understanding about how ubuntu sets up metacity?
[02:52] <krammer> how can I get the force quit program??
[02:52] <phalacee> I figured it would need some KDE core libs or some such
[02:52] <kitche> high-freq: why would there be a gui for asm?
[02:52] <nickrud> robdig, doesn't eclipse have some assembler :)
[02:52] <high-freq> like i said ..didn't know if somebody made it look "pretty" lol
[02:52] <Nostahl> what are the main differences besides stock window managers between ubuntu and xubuntu
[02:53] <Burlynn> phalacee: its going to install them all if the program needs it
[02:53] <robdig> nickrud: dunno, haven't used eclipse
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  one is GNOME, the other is XFCE
[02:53] <high-freq> u know this button does this and this does this procedure..and so forth
[02:53] <kitche> Nostahl: they use different desktop environment that is all
[02:53] <phalacee> krammer, you can use a 'kill' command from the terminal if you know the process id (this can be found using the ps command on the terminal too)
[02:53] <Nostahl> other then that there the same backend?
[02:53] <Nostahl> ok
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  Other then that.. the installed apps Might differ a little.
[02:53] <soldats> Nostahl, xfce is more minimal than gnome
[02:53] <Nostahl> so i can still talk here if i have xubuntu? :P
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,   The core is about the same. :) you can alwyas install the stuff ya want.
[02:53] <nickrud> Nostahl, ubuntu will install openoffice, xubuntu will give you gnumeric and abiword iirc
[02:53] <bewst> s it expected that the config file installed for my gutsy kernel sets CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=y ?
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  This is irc.. any irc client will let ya do that.
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Nostahl,  Install xchat on xubuntu, and there ya go.
[02:54] <Nostahl> well some irc's are snooty hehe
[02:54] <krammer> Phalacee thanks but i would like to have force quit on my desktop i had it before but i forgot how to install it
[02:54] <Nostahl> so some of them wont like you if you talk in the room thats not for your specific distro hehe
[02:54] <Nostahl> ie... debian
[02:54] <Nostahl> debian is a snooty room
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> Debian  is real snooty. :)
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> heh heh
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> SnootyLinux
[02:54] <soldats> Nostahl, well in xubuntu i really didnt understand your question sorry
[02:54] <robdig> nickrud: now when i used to program lots of assembler, the editor was called SPF...
[02:55] <MrPiracy> anyone got Direct Rendering off a intel 946gz videocard?
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> all the Ubuntu Variants are  the same under the 'skin' :)
[02:55] <Nostahl> soldats ah i was just wondering if volman came out of the box or if i had to set it up with xubuntu
[02:55] <BlaenkDenum> can someone please help me with wildcards, I'm trying to match for hidden files and folders, please, I have this so far \*/.\*
[02:55] <nickrud> robdig, I stopped after 6502 code, and that was done with backspace, up, down, left, right :)
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  you can always try 'echo YOURPATTERN' to see what its matching.. but i dont see what you are trying to do exactly
[02:55] <MrPiracy> i got Direct Rendering enabled when i uninstalled xserver-xgl
[02:55] <soldats> Nostahl, see i really am not sure what volman is i guess i could google it, ill check
[02:56] <MrPiracy> but then i lost many other things :(
[02:56] <robdig> nickrud: :)
[02:56] <Nostahl> i found out something interesting tonight... its not good to burn iso's at 40+ x's write speed
[02:56] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: thanks for the help, I'm trying to match for hidden files and folders ( .blah, .svn/, etc.)
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  and .* dont do it ?
[02:56] <Nostahl> it corrupted my xubuntu cd when i did it at 40+ heh
[02:57] <robdig> Nostahl: but its a good way to make coasters :)
[02:57] <Nostahl> so i reburned a new one at 8 x and went for some tea while i waited lmao
[02:57] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: for some reason no, I had that before and it wouldn't work
[02:57] <soldats> Nostahl, http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/index.html
[02:57] <Nostahl> i just got my first cd burner couple weeks ago and a stack of 100 cd's hehe so im learning all about cd burning now lmao
[02:57] <Ttech> I got a question, why is it when  I use TightVPN it causes my system to "crahs" and basically just log me out every time
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,   try  'echo .*' it prints put all the . file a and . dirs here...
[02:57] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: okay
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  it also prints out . and .. :) which is proberly NOT what you want.
[02:58] <soldats> Nostahl, i heard there was a bug in it so you may have to compile it
[02:58] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: exactly, that's why it didn't work
[02:58] <Nostahl> soldats bug in what?
[02:58] <cheaa> i just installed kubuntu and i enabled a driver and went to reboot and on the startup part everything loads except "powernowd" etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd 156: cannot create sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_govenor dir non existant
[02:58] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  Filter out the . and .. then with sed/awk :)
[02:58] <qukk> Um, hello! I'm trying to install Ubuntu server edition, and my keyboard isn't responding when trying to install from the CD. It works on the splash screen, but stops working at the language select screen. It is an old-style AT keyboard. Num-lock even stops working... Can anyone kindly help with this?
[02:58] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: because I'm trying to zip a directory, using the -x parameter to exclude hidden files and folders
[02:58] <soldats> Nostahl, volman
[02:58] <cheaa> error message might not be quite right, wrote it down quick
[02:59] <Nostahl> soldats ah
[02:59] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  or trim out the first 5 characters with cut, perhaps.
[02:59] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: sorry?
[02:59] <Nostahl> i was using debian etch on my laptop but i found i had change to debian lenny wichis the testing version just to get volman
[02:59] <Nostahl> so im checkin out xubuntu
[02:59] <Nostahl> i like the xfce wm
[02:59] <cheaa> anybody?
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  You could try mc, to create the archive. It lets ya pick what files and so forth..   depending on what you are wanting to do . you may just want to write some script.
[03:00] <Shpook> So, I ran "sudo chroot /var/chroot/gutsy/" and got this error: "id: cannot find name for group ID 120" Does anyone know what happened?
[03:00] <MrPiracy> I get an error "Type1 module does not exist" in my Xorg.0.log after uninstalling xserver-xgl, how can I get this module back?
[03:01] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: I'm writing a script in python
[03:01] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: before, I was explicitly ignoring certain files like .svn, but I figured I would never be able to manually exclude all the hidden files that any given system could have
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  Python has full regrexp support thats a littel different from the shell. So it may take a little tweaking, - have it generate a list of all the .Whatever files, then trim out the . and .. entry
[03:02] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: I'm using the zip command like I mentioned and it has an -S parameter which is to include hidden files and folders, the only problem is that it is implicit on UNIX systems and I can't find a way to turn it off
[03:02] <giloth> good evenin' fellow ubuntuers :)
[03:02] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: oh duh I can run a glob huh
[03:03] <robdig> MrPiracy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[03:03] <cheaa> i just installed kubuntu and i enabled a driver and went to reboot and on the startup part everything loads except "powernowd" etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd 156: cannot create sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_govenor dir non existant
[03:03] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  :) now ya got it. I imagine the file globbing allready takes care of . and ..
[03:03] <cheaa> anybody
[03:03] <MrPiracy> robdig: already did that, Type1 is still missing
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: yeah and the zip command allows me to run it multiple times to keep adding to the same archive, so that's good :) thanks man
[03:04] <WaY> hello
[03:04] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  for bash --->   $ echo .* | tail -c +5         trims out the . and .. here :)
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: sweet, thanks man
[03:04] <WaY> what aplication can I use for p2p?
[03:04] <BlaenkDenum> WaY: frostwire
[03:05] <Dr_willis_> BlaenkDenum,  NOTE the differeances when using + and  not using + in that command.. people overlook that NEAT trick
[03:05] <WaY> ok, Im going to have a look
[03:05] <WaY> thanks BlaenkDenum
[03:05] <BlaenkDenum> you're welcome
[03:05] <kye> way im having a issue with powernowd
[03:05] <BlaenkDenum> Dr_willis_: haha okay
[03:06] <kye> can ya help me
[03:06] <magic_ninja> !menumaker
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menumaker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <jhlxd> lxd007
[03:06] <jhlxd> hell
[03:07] <jhlxd> hello
[03:07] <robdig> MrPiracy: ok, since it's reinstalled, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg          and then restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[03:07] <cheaa> !powernowd
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernowd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <jhlxd> hi,everone
[03:07] <adamonline46> Can I mount a samba network drive? How would I do that?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !info powernowd
[03:08] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 120 kB
[03:08] <kye> it fails and wont load ubuntu
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> kye: Can we assume you installed it from the official repos
[03:09] <MrPiracy> robdig: ok, gonna try that now, brb
[03:09] <nickrud> kye, or, what is 'it' ?
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> adamonline46,  you can mount samba shares from the fstab, or manually.   I use the fuse samba tools mainly these days.. It makes it easier.
[03:10] <kye> all i did was enable my  ati accelarator then rebooted
[03:10] <kye> then i got that
[03:10] <Dr_willis_> !info fusesmb | adamonline46
[03:10] <ubotu> adamonline46: fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[03:11] <MrPiracy> robdig: better.... how can i reinstall this package?
[03:11] <Dr_willis_> adamonline46,  theere are several books in the 'samba-doc' package that give lots of examples on using samba as well.
[03:11] <kye> i get a etc/rc2.d/s20powernowd 156: cannot create sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_govenor dir non existant
[03:11] <kye> that fails
[03:11] <kye> and i cant load ubuntu due to thqat
[03:11] <morst> how do i md5?
[03:12] <sunogbaga> morst: md5sum file
[03:12] <morst> thx
[03:12] <biff420> anyone: what is the best way to attempt to play windows games (COD4, Supreme Commander, Steam) on Ubuntu 7.10?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> kye: My question had a simple yes or no answer..
[03:13] <kye> Jack_Sparrow: installed what? ubuntu?
[03:13] <kye> ys from the webpahe
[03:13] <kye> webpage*
[03:14] <Rufus_> I've installed adesklets through the synaptic package manager, how do i launch the adesklets manager?
[03:14] <WaY> BlaenkDenum but limewire doesnt search in emule network, isnt it?
[03:14] <BlaenkDenum> WaY: no, gnutella
[03:14] <BlaenkDenum> and I said frostwire, use that instead of limewire (they're pretty much identical, read up on why they're different)
[03:15] <phalacee> Its a shame Ship-it doesn't ship Ubuntu for PPC anymore ...
[03:15] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, that's a standard ubuntu startup script ...
[03:15] <Konam> Hi
[03:15] <biff420> hey Konam
[03:16] <WaY> thanks BlaenkDenum
[03:16] <BlaenkDenum> WaY: you're welcome
[03:16] <Konam> I'm trying to have the same /home after an ubuntu install, i use the same login and passwd but when the install is finished and i log in a message pops up and tell me that i don't have the permisions to use that home (even though i can log in, actually), how do i change that?
[03:17] <Dr_willis_> Konam,  You may need to chown the /home/whatevertheusernameis dir  if the uids have changed
[03:17] <nickrud> Konam, when you log in, what directory are you in?
[03:17] <Willabee> does anyone know how to set up japanese IME in gutsy/
[03:17] <macd> Konam, from within /home "sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser/*"
[03:17] <Dr_willis_> Konam,  ive never had issues with remaking the same user.  the old /home is from a ubuntu install ?
[03:18] <WaY> ok, you have to pay for limewire :)
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> Konam,  now if the /home was from a Different Disrto. that can cause issues ive found. :)
[03:18] <Konam> Dr_willis_ no, is from another ubuntu install
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> WaY,  well limewire wants $$$ :) They never got any from me.
[03:18] <Konam> the macd command should make it
[03:18] <nickrud> Konam, the system uses numbers to identify the owner, and translates that to names from /etc/passwd. If the user you're keeping is not the first one you created on the prior install, then the numbers are gonna be different
[03:19] <biff420> has anyone had success getting the NVIDIA 169.07 driver to install and if so, are they any better than the original restricted drivers?
[03:19] <Konam> nickrud is the first, i create it during the ubuntu install
[03:19] <WaY> ahaha Dr_willis_
[03:19] <nickrud> Konam, as you say, macd's command will fix it anyway
[03:20] <blind> Alright, was having a load of trouble with my Linksys v4 WMP54G Wireless card... ubuntu actually stopped booting, stuck at "configuring network interfaces" -- also tried in recovery mode, but to no avail. So I've taken the card out, and have booted ubuntu, but I'm curious... what do I need to do to get this card to work? (while it isn't installed)
[03:20] <genii> /join #ubuntu-server
[03:20] <genii> bah
[03:20] <SingAlong> Hi guys.......
[03:21] <Nasari> Hey!
[03:21] <biff420> Hey SIngAlong
[03:21] <SingAlong> I just installed Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn on my laptop. Its a Celeron M processor 1.73GHz with 512Mb RAM and 80GB diskspace
[03:21] <SingAlong> I am a web developer.
[03:21] <biff420> kewl
[03:22] <SingAlong> I would like to install apache, mysql and php on my laptop...
[03:22] <MrPiracy> robdig: same .... no luck
[03:22] <blind> !lamp > singalong
[03:22] <SingAlong> Can the synaptic package manager do the job for me?
[03:22] <nickrud> SingAlong, install apache2 , php5 , and mysql-server-5.0
[03:22] <blind> singalong, check out the pm from ubotu :D
[03:22] <SingAlong> Thats what I want... :) I am a noob on ubuntu.. Firsttimer
[03:23] <robdig> MrPiracy: bummer...maybe someone else can help then
[03:23] <SingAlong> Thanx blind.. :)
[03:23] <Nasari> Hey! I also just installed Ubintu! [I'm total new to Linux] is there is anyone who can help me get started?
[03:24] <SingAlong> And also... which is the media player for ubuntu that can play all the formats?
[03:24] <MrPiracy> robdig: yeah, it seems to be impossible to get this intel board working properly on gutsy
[03:24] <SingAlong> I want to play DVDs, FLVs, MOVs, and RM formats also
[03:24] <katie> Nasari, what do you need to do?
[03:25] <biff420> Sing:  I'm using the default Rythmbox and it seems to work fine...nothing fancy though
[03:25] <soldats> SingAlong, vlc should come with most if not all codecs
[03:25] <std> how do i ripl DOS from rpld?
[03:25] <MrPiracy> robdig: was going to install some games now, but i think it's gonna b impossible with these settings
[03:25] <robdig> MrPiracy: do you have the 945GM/GMS/GME?
[03:25] <RickX> can anyone tell me if I m using a gtk theme under windowmaker if I am using a gtk-engine?
[03:25] <SingAlong> But the Rythmbox says it cannot play due to unavailability of codecs... How do I get the codecs?
[03:25] <MrPiracy> robdig: 946gz intel onboard
[03:25] <soldats> SingAlong, look in synaptic for the codecs you need
[03:26] <biff420> Sing: sorry didn't know you meant movies...thought it was just music
[03:26] <SingAlong> soldats: But I used VLC on my Windows PC... it does not handle playlists well.... Is it the same with linux version too?
[03:26] <Nasari> Yes, are there any programs, files updates I should run?
[03:26] <robdig> MrPiracy: hmm...mine has worked pretty good...agree that without X working well, games are probably not worth it now
[03:26] <Artfullynot> Anyone know what chan all the Sauer players are at?
[03:27] <std> how do i ripl DOS from rpld?
[03:27] <SingAlong> soldat... Will it download and instal it automatically for me? I mean if I select it will it do the rest of the job?
[03:27] <abdulla> Peace and Greetings to ALL
[03:27] <std> how do i ripl DOS from rpld?
[03:27] <MrPiracy> robdig: which chipset do u ahve?
[03:27] <soldats> SingAlong, fpr playlist use a cli based or use rhythmbox or amarok or another gui based one, but when you eed codes open synaptic package manager and do a search for codecs
[03:27] <bruenig> std, calm down
[03:27] <Rufus_> ive downloaded adesklets, downloaded a desklet for it through the installer, now how do i launch it?
[03:27] <robdig> MrPiracy: 945GM/GMS/GME
[03:27] <MrPiracy> can u send me ur xorg.conf file?
[03:27] <MrPiracy> robdig:  can u send me ur xorg.conf file?
[03:27] <Nasari> where do you find synaptic package mngr?
[03:27] <robdig> MrPiracy: sure, just a sec
[03:28] <Willabee> can anyone help me with being able to type in japanese in gutsy
[03:28] <Rufus_> nasari, just type synaptic in the terminal
[03:28] <std> how do i ripl DOS from rpld?
[03:28] <Nasari> ok, thanks!
[03:28] <nickrud> Nasari, system->admin->synaptic
[03:28] <biff420> Nasari: System>Admiin
[03:28] <biff420> damn beat me
[03:28] <Rufus_> ive downloaded adesklets, downloaded a desklet for it through the installer, now how do i launch it?
[03:28] <Rufus_> anyone?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> std: Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[03:29] <std> Jack_Sparrow: yes this is...
[03:29] <biff420> Are the restricted NVIDIA drivers better/worse than the ones on the NVIDIA site?
[03:29] <bruenig> biff420, same
[03:29] <rsk> biff420: same
[03:29] <biff420> bru, rsk: why the wierd version number?
[03:30] <nickrud> biff420, better because they are integrated into the system properly
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> std: THen you need to explain the problem or question in more detail rather than repeating the same thing over and over
[03:30] <std> how do i ripl DOS from rpld?
[03:30] <Rufus_> can someone help me?
[03:30] <bruenig> not better per se, you can get them from the website and integrate them just the same
[03:30] <astro76> std, perhaps no one is answering because no one knows what you are talking about
[03:30] <nickrud> std, you might try rephrasing the question, maybe a little more detail.
[03:30] <phalacee> other than the fact that Microsoft is a bunch of anal-dwelling butt monkeys, is there any reason i can't use the standard windows fonts on my Ubuntu boxen?
[03:30] <katie> Rufus, with what?
[03:30] <biff420> Any reason why I am getting a pixel 2.0 error when trying to launch Supreme Commander through wine?
[03:31] <biff420> I have the restricted driver installed
[03:31] <Rufus_> ive downloaded adesklets, downloaded a desklet for it through the installer, now how do i launch it?
[03:31] <Rufus_> that^
[03:31] <phalacee> biff Direct-x version mismatch?
[03:31] <nickrud> biff420, for wine apps, #winehq is usually better
[03:31] <katie> rufus - ill look
[03:31] <worthawholebean> Hmm... I need the ati drivers, what package are they in?
[03:31] <nickrud> biff420, except when a winer is around :)
[03:31] <std> Jack_Sparrow: I need to know how to ripl DOS from ubuntu.
[03:31] <biff420> thanks nick
[03:31] <nickrud> worthawholebean, system->admin->restricted manager
[03:32] <worthawholebean> nickrud, that would be nice if X would start
[03:32] <robdig> MrPiracy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49763/
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> std: I have no idea what ripl is or does..
[03:32] <Krumar> hey, i just got a tuner card with a radio in it, does anyone know what program i could use to play it?
[03:32] <nickrud> worthawholebean,   oh, you have one of the 1xxx series?
[03:32] <worthawholebean> nickrud, x1600
[03:33] <JoeThomas> Is there anyway to change the font of tty? Not so much size but actual style? a TTF font file or something?
[03:33] <katie> Rufus, yeah, there should be a script or something similar in the directory for the desklet that you can run
[03:33] <Nasari> so, if I want a mp3 codec I look it up in the Synaptic package manager?
[03:33] <std> Jack_Sparrow: Remote Initial Program Load.
[03:33] <bewst> anyone here familiar with the ubuntu kernels and their installed config files?
[03:33] <nickrud> worthawholebean, what you need to do is log into the console, and edit (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf )  Look for "ati" , and change to "fgrlx"
[03:33] <MrPiracy> robdig: would it be too much to ask u to post ur glxinfo as well?
[03:34] <nickrud> worthawholebean, erm, "fglrx" that is, typos matter
[03:34] <worthawholebean> nickrud, I use vi :D
[03:34] <hypno> es
[03:34] <erne_4> ayuda
[03:34] <nickrud> worthawholebean, ah, cool. Just change the driver and you can get in
[03:35] <worthawholebean> nickrud, no instances of ATI
[03:35] <worthawholebean> or ati for that matter
[03:35] <nickrud> worthawholebean, what is it, "vesa" ?
[03:35] <worthawholebean> yep
[03:35] <nickrud> worthawholebean, change that
[03:35] <ogre> hey guys. what do i type into terminal to figure out how much disk space I hae left?
[03:36] <phalacee> I'd like to install the True Type fonts I have on my windows machine onto my Ubuntu 7.04 system, how do I do that
[03:36] <phalacee> ogre, df -h
[03:36] <astro76> !fonts | phalacee
[03:36] <ubotu> phalacee: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:36] <nickrud> phalacee, place them in /home/<you>/.fonts , make the dir if needed
[03:36] <phalacee> ogre, that will tell you the size, space remaining and % used
[03:37] <phalacee> thanx astro76  and nickrud
[03:37] <worthawholebean> nickrud, no module fglrx
[03:37] <ogre> phalacee,  thanks alot
[03:37] <Nasari> Hey, I have pritty bad eyesight, is there anyway to make the text alittle bit larger, I'm on Pidgen
[03:38] <nickrud> worthawholebean, sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:38] <robdig> MrPiracy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49764/
[03:38] <worthawholebean> nickrud, wait, gotta fix network first (probably should have said that this is virtualized)
[03:38] <nickrud> worthawholebean, what virtualization?
[03:39] <nickrud> worthawholebean, things are different virtualized
[03:39] <worthawholebean> nickrud, parallels
[03:39] <blind> Can anyone help me install a linksys WMP54G (version 4.1)? modprobing rt2500 worked the first time, had some problems, took it out, turned it on, turned it off, put it back in, and now it's like it's not even there.
[03:39]  * worthawholebean needs to avoid the XY problem when asking for help
[03:39] <nickrud> worthawholebean, never used that one, so my instructions are probably incorrect
[03:39] <otto_> is there a simple firewall like packetfilter for freebsd?  something I can just turn on in the default ubuntu-server
[03:39] <otto_> or does it already have a sort of firewall on?
[03:39] <worthawholebean> nickrud, x just started :D
[03:39] <MrPiracy> robdig: thank you very much
[03:39] <Dr_willis_> !firewall
[03:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:39] <robdig> MrPiracy: np
[03:40] <phalacee> nickrud, if I want to make the fonts accessible by all system users, where do I place them then?
[03:40] <otto_> of course...iptables
[03:40] <Dr_willis_> otto_,  ive seen some firewall 'wizard scripts' also befor. But never used them.
[03:40] <Nasari> So, there is no way to make the text larger?
[03:40] <nickrud> phalacee, /usr/share/fonts/truetype , create a dir there
[03:40] <MrPiracy> robdig: someone told me here once that when you see MESA being used is because u dont have 3D accel enabled, is it true?
[03:40] <Dr_willis_> otto_,  all they do is ask a bunch of questions and generate the right iptables commands.
[03:40] <phalacee> /usr/local/share/fonts ?
[03:40] <robdig> MrPiracy: i don't know
[03:40] <Willabee> i can't get the scim toolbar to show up on the screen, can anyone help/
[03:41] <noelferreira> can i use vnc outside lan with a dyndns account?
[03:41] <simonova> what can I do to recover from  GRUB boot error 22?
[03:41] <nickrud> phalacee, might very well work, a sec. I keep telling people to use local for their stuff, and what do I say :)
[03:41] <blind> noelferreira, yes. are you behind a router?
[03:41] <noelferreira> yes blind
[03:41] <otto_> Dr_willis_, I can just turn on PF in freebsd by setting pf_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf...anything like that for ubuntu?
[03:41] <blind> you're going to need to forward your ports first then.
[03:41] <MrPiracy> robdig: ur xorg.conf is a bit different
[03:41] <noelferreira> what are them blind?
[03:41] <MrPiracy> robdig: i'm gonna try something here, brb
[03:41] <nickrud> phalacee, yes, fontconfig will look in /usr/local/share/fonts
[03:42] <blind> check out http://portforward.com and click on "port forwarding"
[03:42] <crtjstr> has anyone ever seen an install completely shut down the pc during the cleanup phase?
[03:42] <noelferreira> blind: i mean the number of the port :)
[03:42] <phalacee> thanks nickrud
[03:42] <noelferreira> or ports blind :)
[03:42] <malva1> semarang
[03:42] <phalacee> now, to get those fonts I need
[03:42] <sdre1> i just enabled the restricted drivers in 7.10 and restarted. when it booted i got "kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown block" can anyone help me?
[03:42] <otto_> all the google results comparing iptables and pf are so old :(
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> crtjstr: only a laptop that overheated
[03:43] <blind> noelferreira, whatever ports you set the server to run on. the defaults are listed on portforward.com (i dont know them off the top of my head)
[03:43] <otto_> does ubuntu-server's default install have any sort of firewalling turned on?
[03:43] <simonova> does anyone know how to handle grub error 22?
[03:43] <blind> Can anyone help me install a linksys WMP54G (version 4.1)? modprobing rt2500 worked the first time, had some problems, took it out, turned it on, turned it off, put it back in, and now it's like it's not even there.
[03:43] <nickrud> otto_, no
[03:44] <crtjstr> Jack_Sparrow: this is a desktop, and i turned off acpi, module and bios - that's why it confused me.
[03:44] <freak_> does anybody know how to install using debootstrap, i can't get it to use an http proxy.
[03:46] <MrPiracy> robdig: u there?
[03:46] <robdig> MrPiracy: yes
[03:46] <SingAlong> How can I change from KDE to gnome?
[03:46] <SingAlong> I am a noob..
[03:47] <blind> singalong, have you installed gnome?
[03:47] <MrPiracy> robdig: i found something here ... OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
[03:47] <SingAlong> That comes with ubuntu...
[03:47] <SingAlong> default..
[03:47] <MrPiracy> robdig: yours is OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.1
[03:47] <blind> Well if you're in KDE, I figured you might have installed kubuntu.
[03:47] <robdig> MrPiracy: interesting. i'm on gutsy, are you
[03:47] <blind> but, when at the login screen, click on "sessions" and gnome should be listed.
[03:47] <SingAlong> blind: I installed ubuntu. I have gnome as default. I want KDE
[03:47] <MrPiracy> robdig: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
[03:48] <blind> OH, you want KDE. you said switch from kde to gnome.
[03:48] <MrPiracy> robdig: this is ur renderer string ... looks specific to ur card while mine looks generic
[03:48] <SingAlong> blind: How to install KDE ...
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: install the kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <SingAlong> blind: How?
[03:48] <MrPiracy> robdig: just says ....  Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:48] <blind> singalong: are you familiar with synaptic?
[03:48] <MrPiracy> robdig: yes, i'm on gutsy, all updates applied
[03:48] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: Thats what I want to know? :) I told u I am a noob... I am a first timer
[03:48] <SingAlong> blind: yeah...
[03:49] <blind> SingAlong: find kubuntu-desktop inside synaptic and install it. then at the login screen, click sessions, and KDE should be there.
[03:49] <genii> freak_: Good resources here (just ignore the encryption parts) http://www.cs278.org/blog/ubuntu-configuration/feisty-debootstrap-encrypted-install/
[03:49] <Xplicit> can you use raid inside an lvms e.g i have a partition in lvms and want to raid it to a second hd
[03:49] <tarelerulz> where are the files that goverent vnc ? in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[03:49] <robdig> MrPiracy: hmm, wonder if the intel driver is pulling the later version of opengl?
[03:49] <SingAlong> blind:The last time I tries using synaptic... I messed up and kde didnt install... instead I got a command line version of ubuntu :)
[03:49] <MrPiracy> robdig: i guess i should try to upgrade this MESA thing then
[03:49] <phalacee> I'll be back shortly, just doing some financial management
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop      if you prefer using a cli or terminal session
[03:49] <SingAlong> blind: Should I log off and login after I install it?
[03:49] <robdig> MrPiracy: sounds reasonable
[03:49] <Nasari> Whats better, Gnome or KDE?
[03:49] <tarelerulz> I get vnc now ,but it comes up with a gray screen which is not useful at all
[03:50] <blind> Nasari: neither.
[03:50] <robdig> Nasari: whichever one YOU like is better
[03:50] <Nasari> pritty subjective eh?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasari: Different only
[03:50] <blind> Nasari, they're just different clothes for the same person.
[03:50] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: I have a 150kbps connection. How many hours will it take for me to install KDE?
[03:50] <worthawholebean> ok nickrud, i'm good now, thanks for the help
[03:50] <MrPiracy> robdig: www.mesa3d.org it says there's a version 7.0.2 released
[03:51] <Nasari> ah, ok, thanks
[03:51] <nickrud> worthawholebean, what driver did you use?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: no idea.. but awhile...
[03:51] <robdig> MrPiracy: hmm...
[03:51] <worthawholebean> nickrud, vesa is working for now... no idea why, installing fglrx now
[03:51] <blind> Can anyone help me install a linksys WMP54G (version 4.1)? modprobing rt2500 worked the first time, had some problems, took it out, turned it on, turned it off, put it back in, and now it's like it's not even there.
[03:51] <nickrud> worthawholebean, :)
[03:51] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: Will take more than 15 minutes?
[03:51] <MrPiracy> robdig: yeah, way to go  .... version history says: Added checking/support for additional chips in the i915/i945 family (see 11978)
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: yes
[03:52] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: more than 30 minutes?
[03:52] <Josspyker_> blind: rt 2500 and gutsy
[03:52] <robdig> MrPiracy: cool
[03:52] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow:  or more than 1 hour?
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: It installs alot of things...  I cant guess at how long it will take you
[03:52] <qukk> Hi there; once I enter Ubuntu installation my keyboard doesn't work. Is there any way I can... fix this?
[03:52] <freak_> genii am i missing it, i don't see anything about a proxy on that page
[03:52] <MrPiracy> robdig: will get it installed then i tell u what happens
[03:53] <robdig> MrPiracy: ok. hope it works for you
[03:53] <nickrud> SingAlong, i don't have any kde at all, and it seems kubuntu-desktop wants about 221 megs downloaded
[03:53] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: I am using Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn. I have a kubuntu 6.06 CD
[03:53] <SingAlong> nickrud: Can I install KDE from the Kubuntu CD?
[03:53] <genii> freak_: How are you currently calling the debootstrap command?
[03:53] <nickrud> SingAlong, no, the releases don't match. Feisty is 7.04
[03:54] <Nasari> I just got up and running, say i want to install flashplayer for firefox, is there an easy way of accomplishing this?
[03:54] <SingAlong> nickrud: Oh.. Thats what I was wondering about...   :)
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: You can have both complete on the same hard drive and select the one you want from grub at boot.
[03:54] <kuman> fanluigi
[03:54] <SingAlong> Jack_Sparrow: But the kubuntu CD seems to be having some problem.. so I am not able to install :(
[03:55] <SingAlong> Thats why I am only able to import the programs using synaptic... I think so..
[03:55] <Nasari> [also, I have bad eyesight, is there anyway I can make the chat here somewhat larger?
[03:55] <nickrud> Nasari, what irc client?
[03:55] <freak_> genii as root i am doing export http_proxy="http://192.168.1.1:8080" and then debootstrap --arch i386 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release
[03:55] <Nasari> I'm using Pidgion
[03:55] <Dr_willis_> Nasari,  depends on the irc client You are using. Or if using compiz  You can enable the zoom feature.
[03:55] <blind> Can anyone help me install a linksys WMP54G (version 4.1)? modprobing rt2500 worked the first time, had some problems, so i took it out, turned the machine on, turned it off, put the card back in, and now it's like it's not even there, even after modprobing rt2500 again.
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> SingAlong: All the more reason to not use KDE.. I had issuse with KDE and have been happy with gnome... but I must go for tonight...  take care all..
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> Zoom feature in compiz is... handy
[03:56] <tom___> I have recently switched to ubuntu -- there are a lot of people on my msn list that I used to do voice chat with.  Is there a way to do voice chat with msn users?  Is there a reason aMSN hasn't implemented this?
[03:56] <genii> freak_: Examine the line he uses: sudo debootstrap --include="language-pack-en,language-pack-en-base,dmsetup,cryptsetup,hashalot,initramfs-tools,nano" --components=main,universe --verbose --arch i386 feisty /mnt http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR/scripts/feisty
[03:56] <nickrud> Nasari, don't know that one, but if you install xchat you can (better for irc anyway, posts with your name in them will be red and be easy to find)
[03:56] <SingAlong> Guys can u please tell me which is the channel for knoppix? (sorry for asking this)...
[03:56] <Nasari> Heh, I'll check out xchat
[03:56] <blind> Singalong: #knoppix
[03:56] <Vern> lol
[03:56] <nickrud> Dr_willis, what's the keystroke for zoom?
[03:57] <SingAlong> blind: Thanks blind
[03:58] <tom___> I have recently switched to ubuntu -- there are a lot of people on my msn list that I used to do voice chat with.  Is there a way to do voice chat with msn users?  Is there a reason aMSN hasn't implemented this?
[03:58] <hdevalence> !flash
[03:58] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:58] <kuman> fansluigi
[03:59] <freak_> genii i figured out what my problem was thanks to you, i reexamined what i did exactly and realized that i had sudo debootstrap ... not debootstrap... so the environment variable http_proxy didn't get read
[03:59] <genii> freak_: Glad you sorted it out :) It's installing now?
[04:00] <freak_> genii anyway... thanks for asking the question. definitely helped me figure out the problem. i knew it was probably something stupid.
[04:00] <freak_> genii yea, it is installing.
[04:00] <qukk> Um, hello! I'm trying to install Ubuntu server edition, and my keyboard isn't responding when trying to install from the CD. It works on the splash screen, but stops working at the language select screen. It is an old-style AT keyboard. Num-lock even stops working... Can anyone kindly help with this?
[04:00] <jimmygoon> Anyone ever dealt with an xfat driver?
[04:00] <genii> freak_: You can run the tasksel after, thats what I usually do
[04:01] <freak_> genii i was wondering one other thing maybe you know. does debootstrap use signatures to verify the packages i'm installing have not been tampered with?
[04:01] <Nasari> I just got up and running, say i want to install flashplayer for firefox, is there an easy way of accomplishing this?
[04:01] <jimmygoon> Nasari, it is in the repos
[04:01] <jimmygoon> !flash
[04:01] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:01]  * nickrud feels he's back in breezy, with all the flash issues
[04:01] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:01] <ehc> is there a way to take the subtitles out of a .avi file?
[04:02] <Nasari> Whats the "repos" ?
[04:02] <jimmygoon> Nasari, woops, forgot there are some type of various flash problems
[04:02] <genii> freak_: When I was installing some debs off my own site it groaned about md5
[04:02] <nalioth> !tell Nasari about repos
[04:02] <tarelerulz> have any of you vcn into other computer got nothing ,but gray screen .
[04:02] <cdm10> nalioth: Is !tell nick about factoid equivalent to !factoid > nick ?
[04:02] <jimmygoon> nickrud, no kidding
[04:02] <genii> freak_: So it has some sort of internal check
[04:02] <Xplicit> is it possible to get my /boot to be written to 2 partitions (like raid or something)?
[04:03] <nalioth> cdm10: yes
[04:03] <cdm10> mmk
[04:03] <genii> Xplicit: Not usually
[04:03] <theurz> how to get modeline for widescreen
[04:03] <nalioth> cdm10: !tell blah about bleh usually makes more sense to blah
[04:03] <cdm10> nalioth: yep, looks like it :)
[04:04] <freak_> ubotu i don't use amsn, but if they don't have it (and i don't think they do) the reason it does not have voice chat with msn users is microsoft uses proprietary protocols. best thing to do is get them to use an sip client, or some other voice chat software that is more friendly with linux. i just stopped communicating that way when i switched to linux... that and get some linux friends to solve the problem.
[04:04] <qukk> Well... I fixed my own problem. using fb=false I made my keyboard work during installation. Is there anywhere I can go to make this available for other people to find?
[04:04] <Nasari> ok, restrictions don't apply, is there a packet or something I can just download it from, or do i need to install it manually?
[04:06] <otto_> is there  a way to comment out the cdrom repository from the command line without editing?
[04:07] <blind> Alright, I'm having some troubles with my linksys WMP54G v4.1 -- When it's in its PCI slot, ubuntu won't boot past "Configuring network interfaces." How can I fix this?
[04:07] <freak_> ubotu try http://www.sipphone.com/
[04:07] <freak_> anyway- thanks all. bye
[04:07] <robdig> qukk: you can add something to ubuntuforums.org
[04:08] <hou5ton> Is there a good file manager that will allow me to become root and change file permissions?
[04:08] <blind> hou5ton: gksudo nautilus
[04:08] <tom___> I could use sipphone -- but then my contacts would have to install it on *thier* computer, right? isn't there a way where i can isntall something on mid and it will work with all of thiers?
[04:09] <hou5ton> blind:   thanks
[04:09] <Willabee> I got japanese keyboard working, and now i need help with hebrew
[04:09] <blind> tom___: skype?
[04:09] <Karl^> Skype (beta 2 for Linux) has full voice, cam and chat messaging
[04:09] <goldphish> What does this mean? make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop.
[04:09] <goldphish> make: *** [prepare0] Error 2
[04:10] <tom___> blind: yeah but they all use msn/yahoo...they'd have to install skype then
[04:10] <Willabee> what's the standard shortcut for switching keyboard layouts
[04:10] <Nasari> for ubuntu, do i want to download and install Adobe Flashplayer using .rpm or .tar.gz
[04:10] <jimmygoon> Nasari, tar.gz
[04:10] <BlaenkDenum> BlaenkDenum: hi
[04:10] <bio> so, when I try to go to full-screen in google video, the pop-up window is empty, but the sound continues as usual
[04:10] <blind> tom___: sorry, i caught the butt-end of the convo. What are you trying to do?
[04:10] <Nasari> ok, thanks jimmygoon O:-)
[04:11] <Karl^> GyacHe (Yahoo clone) has limited voice support (you have tobe in a room)
[04:11] <|Cloud|> what do i do if i get the message "Can't talk to klauncher" when opening amarok?
[04:11] <robdig> goldphish: it means the makefile has an error in it...asm-offsets.s has a dependency on asm-offsets.c, but asm-offsets.c is not found
[04:12] <BlaenkDenum> !ati
[04:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:12] <tom___> blind: no prob -- i just switched to ubuntu and i'd like to be able to do voice chat with msn/yahoo contacts.  I'ts looking like i can't. I'd really not like to have to bug them to install a new client as they probably won't
[04:12] <J_A_X> hey guys, I just installed a new ubuntu server with SSH.  I can connect locally, but it seems that when I used the domain pointing to it (the ip is good, i checked it), it doesn't seem to reply back
[04:12] <blind> ahh.. amsn doesn't do voice?
[04:12] <Nasari> ok, sorry for all these questions an all, but I have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to linux. I have downloaded the  flashplayer.tar.gz file - how do I unpack it?
[04:12] <J_A_X> the port should be forwarded properly as well
[04:13] <goldphish> robdig: hmm, correct it's not there. So I read all these guides that say that to build just one module ass you need is the kernel header package. How is this possible?
[04:13] <astro76> J_A_X, most routers will not allow you to do that, unless they support something called "nat reflection" or similar
[04:13] <Mitt4Prez> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t
[04:13] <Mitt4Prez> Look at Mike Huckabee's psychotic comments.
[04:13] <tom___> blind: nope
[04:13] <Mitt4Prez> Vote Mitt Romney 2008.  He is a tech savvy candidate that will put the US back on track economically and help us win in Iraq and defend our borders.
[04:13] <Mitt4Prez> Mitt Romney 2008
[04:13] <SuperLag> hou5ton: slacker :)
[04:13] <Mitt4Prez> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t
[04:13] <astro76> !ops | Mitt4Prez
[04:14] <Mitt4Prez> Look at Mike Huckabee's psychotic comments.
[04:14] <Mitt4Prez> Vote Mitt Romney 2008.  He is a tech savvy candidate that will put the US back on track economically and help us win in Iraq and defend our borders.
[04:14] <ubotu> Mitt4Prez: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[04:14] <Mitt4Prez> Mitt Romney 2008
[04:14] <hou5ton> SuperLag:   hey man .... be right with ya ... just a min
[04:14] <luis> hola
[04:14] <J_A_X> astro76: err, what are you talking about?  I have the same setup at home...
[04:14] <J_A_X> domain pointing to ip, routing forwarding port 22...
[04:15] <nixnoob> anyone running gusty on a Asus c90s notebook?
[04:15] <J_A_X> just, for some reason, this one isn't working externally
[04:15] <robdig> goldphish: dunno. was the code designed for ubuntu? if not, may need to install something else as well
[04:15] <Nasari> Sorry for repeating my question but i really have no idea what i' doing: I have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to linux. I have downloaded the  flashplayer.tar.gz file - how do I unpack it?
[04:15] <J_A_X> i think i just forgot something, but I'm not sure
[04:15] <blind> Alright, I'm having some troubles with my linksys WMP54G v4.1 -- When it's in its PCI slot, ubuntu won't boot past "Configuring network interfaces." How can I fix this?
[04:16] <nixnoob> blind, unplug it. =)
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasari: Is it really that important that you have flash now ?
[04:16] <blind> nixnoob, yes, but i'd like a working wireless card in my computer. how can i fix it so it will run?
[04:16] <nickrud> blind, what's in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:17] <blind> nickrud: let me go find out...
[04:17] <Nasari> OK, sorry, I think I got it, thanks
[04:17] <otto_> where can I get the default gutsy sources.list
[04:18] <Nasari> No, but I figured that instaling flash will help with with the general concept of installing packages
[04:18] <burger> have a program that run when I execute from its folder.  I'm assuming I can move that folder to /usr/local type place and have it available from anywhere.  How would I change my PATH to look an executable in a folder?  And thanks for any help.
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > otto_
[04:18] <DG19075> !flash
[04:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:18] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasari: Sticking to the repos will help you keep a stable workable system.
[04:19] <nixnoob> nonsense
[04:19] <nixnoob> lol
[04:19] <astro76> J_A_X, what I'm talking about is many people try to access their local system using their external IP, and the router prevents this
[04:19]  * nickrud emphatically agrees with Jack_Sparrow 
[04:19] <J_A_X> astro76: ahhhh
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> nixnoob: If you are talking to me...  Keep your opinions to yourself thanks
[04:19] <Nasari> Nasari has no idea what a "repo"/ "repos" is...
[04:19] <J_A_X> could be, this router is complete crap
[04:20] <nixnoob> Jack_Sparrow, I was just kidding.  Calm down.
[04:20] <astro76> J_A_X, so instead of reflecting this connection back, it sends it out to the gateway never to return
[04:20] <J_A_X> cool, i'll try to get someone to get to login from somewhere else
[04:21] <patrlck> hi
[04:21] <blind> iface ra0 inet dhcp -- wireless-essid (myessidhere) -- auto ra0
[04:21] <blind> nickrud
[04:22] <blind> (the -- = newline)
[04:22] <nickrud> blind, remove the auto ra0 , try that
[04:22] <blind> Alrighty.
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasari: The official repositories as found in your sources list are tested software that can be easilly installed with synaptic or apt-get or aptitude etc
[04:23] <Nasari> oh, ok, thanks Jack
[04:23] <patrlck> I have installed ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso but when I type "uname -a" I get "pat-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 05:28:27 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux" .. is it normal ?
[04:23] <nickrud> patrlck, yes
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Nasari: If you want my help installing flash. I will give you simple instructions, but it could cause you problems when the real fix comes down later
[04:24] <patrlck> I tried installing xchat as I usually do but it won't work
[04:24] <patrlck> I can't seem to install any package at all
[04:24] <patrlck> using apt-get
[04:24] <astro76> patrlck, yes, note the x86_64 in the uname -a output
[04:24] <nickrud> patrlck, system->admin->software sources, make sure the first 4 items are selected, and the cdrom is not
[04:24] <Xplicit> oops i was using a windows xp install disk and deleted some partitions but havent formated them, is there a way i can rebuild the partition table to fix this mistake?
[04:24] <genii> Someone was asking about how to remove the cdrom line from sources.list without editing? Anyhow since it's first line , sudo sed 1d /etc/apt/sources.list  > /etc/apt/sources.list           will work
[04:25] <ActySofts> hello
[04:25] <joeyp8> hello
[04:25] <hdevalence> is it possible to use an NTFS partition as a /home?
[04:25] <bio> Nasari, did you find what you needed?
[04:25] <patrlck> thanks nickrud everything works fine now :)
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> hdevalence: no
[04:26] <hdevalence> Jack_Sparrow: thought so.
[04:26] <Xplicit> hdevalence: no we cant use the permisions AFAIK
[04:26] <blind> nickrud, totally worked. thanks man
[04:26] <bio> Nasari, I can give you step by step if you need
[04:26] <nickrud> blind, yw. But don't even think of asking me to help you set up the wireless, you'd be wasting your time :)
[04:26] <noelferreira> blind: should i open a udp or tcp port for vnc?
[04:26] <Xplicit> is it possible to use a Fat partition as home? if you use the fat + permision format?
[04:26] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons?
[04:27] <Nasari> Ah, yes, I did, thanks
[04:27] <astro76> noelferreira, vnc uses tcp
[04:27]  * bio goes to eat noodles
[04:27] <noelferreira> thanks astro76
[04:27] <blind> nickrud, i've done it before, same card, same version, just this time something went wrong?
[04:27] <Nasari> I somehow got some cina package manager that did it for me! =-O Yay!
[04:27]  * nickrud sits here, fingers stilled
[04:28] <Gnea> Xplicit: nope, you need to use a filesystem that support UNIX permissions
[04:28] <FunnyMan3595> What's the hard way (command line) to activate DHCP on a connection?
[04:28] <nickrud> blind, I 'blindly' used bcm43xx driver in restricted manager, it worked, I kissed my cd
[04:28] <bio> Nasari, for future, #tar xvf filename
[04:28] <Gnea> Xplicit: although, if you were to somehow load /home as a SAMBA slice...
[04:28] <bio> is good
[04:28] <FunnyMan3595> i.e. What DHCP program is Ubuntu using?
[04:29] <Gnea> Xplicit: then NTFS would be better for that
[04:29] <Nasari> I have a question, I use VLC player with windows, if i install it on this linux platform, will it also all of the codecs as well?
[04:29] <Gnea> FunnyMan3595: ps axf | grep dhcp
[04:29] <bio> Nasari, that's x-tract v-erbose f-file something like that... extracts it into the folder
[04:29] <leku> hey
[04:29] <blind> nickrud, well linksys has the ralink chipset (at least this version claims to), so it should just work after modprobing rt2500... but we'll see.
[04:29] <leku> got a question on resizing my partitions with gparted
[04:29] <bio> Nasari, perhaps
[04:29] <Khajavi> I have question: I need software to create repository and delete my old packages. managing old and new packages
[04:29] <hdevalence> in this case it's a friend of mine who wants to have r/w acess to /home from Windows
[04:29] <Nasari> bio for the win!
[04:29] <leku> i have 44g unallocated and I want to grow my NTFS partition on /dev/sda1 from 24g to 50g
[04:30] <astro76> Nasari, it's the same, except I think you still need to install libdvdcss2 for encrypted DVDs
[04:30] <bio> Nasari, you can get libxine-extracodecs something like that
[04:30] <leku> i try to do sudo ntfsresize -S 50G /dev/sda1
[04:30] <nickrud> blind, if it works when the module is modprobed, but not when you boot, add the module name on a line by itself in /etc/modules
[04:30] <bio> *might have to get
[04:30] <bio> does VLS use xine?
[04:30] <leku> but it says the new size cant be bigger than the device size and i need to enlarge device size using fdisk
[04:30] <leku> first
[04:30] <bio> or like gstreamer or somehting
[04:30] <leku> so do i go into fdisk and do that?
[04:30] <leku> im' worried i'm going to ruin my windows partition
[04:30] <bio> VLC that is
[04:31] <Gnea> leku: right - you need to use fdisk to remanage the MBR so that the disk itself knows where to expand beyond the current barrier
[04:31] <Nasari> I get get libxine-extracodecs with synaptic?
[04:31] <Xplicit> can gutsy use UMSDOS? or would it require major work?
[04:31] <bio> Nasari, you can, still not sure if VLC uses xine
[04:31] <leku> ok gnea
[04:31] <leku> so i just go use fdisk and make the thing larger
[04:31] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:31] <leku> then use ntfsresize?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !find libxine
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: libxine-dev, libxine1, libxine1-dbg, libxine1-doc, libxinerama-dev (and 9 others)
[04:32] <bio> Nasari, the command line (terminal) is sweet though, I got throw-back neon green on black
[04:32] <nickrud> bio, no it doesn't use xine libs
[04:32] <Gnea> leku: you also might want to look at gparted and ntfs-3g
[04:32] <leku> gparted wont let me
[04:32] <bio> nickrud, what does VLC use?
[04:32] <Gnea> leku: are you familiar with the linux fdisk at all?
[04:32] <Nasari> what about the command line?
[04:32] <astro76> bio, VLC uses it's own code
[04:33] <leku> yep
[04:33] <bio> oh
[04:33] <leku> seasoned linux guy
[04:33] <SuperQ> Mmmm.. curry
[04:33] <astro76> bio, and low level libs
[04:33] <nickrud> bio, it uses itself
[04:33] <bio> I've never really liked VLC, you guys like?
[04:33] <SuperQ> leku: first kernel?
[04:33] <leku> huh?
[04:33] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:34] <SuperQ> leku: what was the kernel on the first linux you used?
[04:34] <leku> i'm trying to resize a partition :)
[04:34] <astro76> bio, there is yet to be a perfect media player, but most people consider VLC the swiss army knife ;)
[04:34] <leku> 1.2.13
[04:34] <nickrud> bio, works better for dvd's than anything else I've tried, I've kinda shifted over for everything now
[04:34] <leku> maybe earlier than that
[04:34] <SuperQ> Ahh, those were the good ol days
[04:34] <leku> but thats all i remember
[04:34] <SuperQ> yea
[04:34] <Gnea> leku: it's pretty simple then: just make sure that sda1 begins on the same sector/cylinder that sda1 is currently set to, then change the end sector boundary to be greater than what it's currently set at (whatever the 50G limit is)
[04:34] <SuperQ> good ol slackware
[04:34] <leku> yep
[04:34] <leku> 24 floppies
[04:34] <EDinNY> What is the maximum size of a swap partition on an I86-64 machine?
[04:34] <astro76> bio, yeah I prefer it for DVDs too
[04:34] <Gnea> lol
[04:34] <nickrud> 2.0.something
[04:34] <leku> thanks gnea
[04:34] <bio> ah, I see, yeah, I use flash, realplayer, and xine-based stuff I guess
[04:34]  * leku nervous to break windows
[04:35] <SuperQ> I'm so glad I switched to Bo back in ~98
[04:35] <leku> Bo?
[04:35] <Nasari> What i'm looking for is a nice codec package, and was wondering if I download VLC is that a good option, or is there a better way?
[04:35] <SuperQ> Debian Bo
[04:35] <Xplicit> breaking windows is fun, just make sure ubuntu works 1st
[04:35] <leku> dunno what that is
[04:35] <biff420> anyone know how to set the xorg.conf so that I can get 640x480 with 256 colors?
[04:35] <leku> i've used debian plenty
[04:35] <Gnea> leku: gparted *should* be able to see that - if it can't resize the ntfs partition, then ntfsresize should - again, check out ntfs-3g though, as it has better linux compatibility and should be less risky
[04:35] <tritium> SuperQ, leku: there's #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat
[04:35] <nickrud> SuperQ, dropping names ? ;p
[04:35] <leku> gnea: i'm booted off of a live ubuntu cd
[04:36] <bio> Nasari, VLC probably is the most versatile single player from what I understand
[04:36] <leku> i'll reboot into linux now
[04:36] <Gnea> leku: right-o
[04:36] <bio> Nasari, are you looking for stand-alone or plug-in?
[04:36] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:36] <SuperQ> heh, sorry
[04:36] <Nasari> codecs
[04:36] <Nasari> or plugins/whatever
[04:36] <Shpook> So I guess installing KDE alongside Gnome is generally a bad idea?
[04:36] <bio> Nasari, for streaming or DVD?
[04:36] <leku> shpook: not at all
[04:36] <leku> i have had both
[04:37] <bio> Nasari, plug-in I mean like into firefox
[04:37] <Nasari> for mp3, mp4 div-x ect
[04:37] <chintan> i think vistacodec pack (if it is available on lin)
[04:37] <biff420> anyone know how to set the xorg.conf so that I can get 640x480 with 256 colors?
[04:37] <bio> !codecs
[04:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <Shpook> leku: hmmm...i just got done playing with KDE, and now in Gnome, Pidgin and Firefox 2 segfault when I run them
[04:37] <Xplicit> Shpook: its ok but there are problems
[04:38] <Xplicit> what happends in kde?
[04:38] <leku> shouldn't have anything to do with kde
[04:38] <leku> well
[04:38] <leku> if kde updated pidgen and firefox 2
[04:38] <leku> you might have a problem
[04:38] <tritium> !enter | leku
[04:38] <ubotu> leku: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:38] <Blazer11> hello all
[04:39] <leku> thanks for the IRC ettiquette lesson
[04:39] <tritium> Any time...
[04:39] <Xplicit> !ask | Blazer11
[04:39] <leku> install firefox3
[04:39] <leku> :)
[04:39] <leku> 3b2
[04:40] <ubotu> Blazer11: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:40] <biff420> how do i edit xorg.conf to get 640x480 @ 256 colors?
[04:40]  * robdig remembers 640X480...wasn't that the res for the original vga in the '80s?
[04:40] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:40] <biff420> robdig: and starcraft...hence the question
[04:40] <EDinNY> Nasari you want win32 or win64 codecs
[04:40] <_gtt_> how can i figure out why i'm unable to browse samba shares from one laptop on my network? the error reported is that it doesnt find any workgroups to join.
[04:41] <EDinNY> Nasari: there is a depository with them in it...you install them and mplayer, but vlc is a great alternative
[04:41] <Blazer11> ubotu ??
[04:41] <ActySofts> bump
[04:42] <robdig> biff420: system->preferences->screen resolution?
[04:42] <Shpook> leku: I'm using Firefox 3, but Firebug doesn't support it yet, and that's my main JS debugger lol
[04:42] <scguy318> !medibuntu | Nasari
[04:42] <ubotu> Nasari: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:42] <Shpook> And I JUST reformatted and reinstalled because I destroyed the last installation :-(
[04:42] <leku> man gparted is junk.. always seg faults
[04:42] <Nasari> OK, thanks
[04:42] <Xplicit> Shpook: doesnt support or says itdoesnt support?
[04:42] <leku> ahh ok shpook
[04:42] <leku> bummer.. b2 is so nice
[04:43] <biff420> robdig:isn't there a gui to edit xorg.conf?
[04:43] <gvsa123> i'm trying to play around with automated shutdown/restart. what command do i have to issue so that all running applications are ended before shutting down?
[04:43] <Shpook> Xplicit: doesn't support it....or at least won't install
[04:43] <leku> gvsa: the ubuntu init system will properly shutdown everythign for you
[04:43] <Shpook> leku: yeah, I'm in love with FF3b2
[04:43] <tritium> biff420: generally, one does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to reconfigure it
[04:43] <ActySofts> biff420: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[04:43] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:43] <leku> wow gparted still wont let me resize this beast
[04:43] <nickrud> biff420, if you'll put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org I'll show you the changes necessary
[04:44] <EDinNY> gvsa123, "shutdown -r" reboots, "shutdown -h" halts
[04:44] <gvsa123> leku: but i noticed that there would be times when for example i left firefox minimized on another window, and i shutdown, the next time, i will be prompted that the session wasn't ended
[04:44] <Xplicit> Shpook: you can try installing it anyway by using extensions.checkCompatibility;false
[04:44] <biff420> nicrud: sure thing...maybe you can clean it up a bit...it looks like $hit
[04:44] <Blazer11> ubotu are u a linux god, cause i do have an issue, for real ultrasparc, video card on pci domain 0001, the xorg old chesnut, trying to figure out how to install xfree86 in gutsy, or debian etch
[04:44] <leku> gvsa: well applications like firefox don't relaly need to be properly shutdown
[04:44] <leku> everyting else that needs to has an init script
[04:44] <gvsa123> EDinNY: i have sudo shutdown -h now set to GShutdown
[04:44] <leku> so stuff running on your desktop, who really cares how it closes
[04:44] <leku> IMHO
[04:44] <bio> !ubotu | Blazer11
[04:44] <ubotu> Blazer11: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:45] <Shpook> Xplicit: ahh thanks, I forgot you could do that
[04:45] <Xplicit> Shpook: add the string extensions.checkCompatibility to about:config then set it to false
[04:45] <tritium> leku: how hard is it for you to understand !enter?
[04:45] <EDinNY> gvsa123, that is a bug in firefox.  It usually says it was not shut down correctly
[04:45] <Blazer11> LOL
[04:45] <Xplicit> leku: firefox has an anoying tendancy to popup a warning if you to an os shutdown it wont restore
[04:45] <bio> !xine
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <leku> tritium: get a life
[04:45] <nickrud> !info xine-ui
[04:45] <gvsa123> EDinNY: plus I added killall -SIGHUP java to end azureus so i don't get the messegae that it wasn't shutdown tidily the next time...
[04:45] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.5-2build1 (gutsy), package size 1514 kB, installed size 3628 kB
[04:45] <ActySofts> !libxine > bio
[04:46] <Blazer11> can someone help me please!
[04:46] <biff420> nicrud: done
[04:46] <nickrud> biff420, I need the url
[04:46] <bio> ActySofts, knows nothing of libxine
[04:46] <ActySofts> O.o
[04:46] <gvsa123> EDinNY: oh it's a bug in FF...
[04:46] <Shpook> Now, if I remove kubuntu-desktop...will it completely remove everything kubuntu and pretend it was never there?
[04:46] <nickrud> !info libxine1
[04:46] <Soskel> http://webtechmedia.net/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[04:46] <ubotu> libxine1: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2431 kB, installed size 5528 kB
[04:46] <Xplicit> tritium: that was unecisary he was being help full just didnt like following a fairly pointless rule
[04:46] <biff420> nickrud: sorry.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49766/
[04:47] <biff420> nickrud: still new to this
[04:47] <tritium> Xplicit: it's far from pointless.  It keeps the noise down in the channel.
[04:47] <mwag> anyone know how to use cedega?
[04:47] <EDinNY> gvsa123, you HUP a process?  that usually just causes it to re-read its config file if it is a server
[04:47] <biff420> mwag: got to the #cedega channel
[04:47] <Xplicit> id of thought noise was less important than removing help from the channel
[04:47] <EDinNY> gvsa123: rather if it is a daemon
[04:47] <mwag> #cedega
[04:48] <tritium> Xplicit: we have a code of conduct as well.  He decided to be rude.
[04:48] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:48] <nickrud> biff420, change the Defaultdepth to 8 to use the 8 bit display
[04:48] <gvsa123> EDinNY: not really sure what the killall -SIGHUP does.. i just got it from the wiki of azureus.. it seems to work... i was wondering if i needed to issue a similar generalized command to close applications (i.e. pidgin, music players, open nautilus windows, Openoffice, etc...)
[04:48] <Shpook> Oh yeah, anyone else play with PulseAudio yet? Better yet, on a 64-bit system?
[04:48] <mwag> how do you join channels
[04:48] <Blazer11> help need a linux guru to help me with sunblade 1500, multi pci domain, xorg
[04:49] <alexandroid> hi all. I need help with installing Ubuntu on external HDD (WD passport 160). I've found several instructions over web, but my case seems to be a bit different and I am stuck. =) I am using Ubuntu 7.10 live DVD to boot from, ran install from it. I let it automatically partition the drive and told grub to install into sdb (which in my case was the external HDD). It seemed to work fine (my laptop HDD/MBR remain intact), except I can
[04:49] <ActySofts> mwag: type "/join #channel"
[04:49] <Xplicit> who was asking about getting firefox to shut down properly
[04:49] <biff420> nickrud: in the screen section?
[04:49] <gvsa123> EDinNY: i only used it because i noticed that not shutting down azureus nicely causes messages to appear the next time i use it...
[04:49] <EDinNY> gvsa123, I always log out before I reboot so firefox and other applications are not running
[04:49] <slugone> ive downloaded a linux game.....its a shell script....how do i install it
[04:49] <slugone> 1 file
[04:50] <nickrud> biff420, yes. You'll probably need to do it for both screens, I don't remember if X supports different bit depths on different screens, but don't think so
[04:50] <Gnea> slugone: which one?
[04:50] <Xplicit> theres a hack for firefox to get it to skip the popup dialog but is theres a way to get firefox to shutdown properly , loging out doesnt help me as kde restores sessions
[04:50] <slugone> beyond the red line
[04:50] <_gtt_> nickrud: it does
[04:50] <slugone> its based on freespace
[04:50] <slugone> 2
[04:50] <nickrud> _gtt_, thaks
[04:50] <biff420> nickrud: why is there more than one screen defined?...i only have one monitor
[04:51] <slugone> a battle star galactica
[04:51] <slugone> game
[04:51] <ActySofts> the icons on the human theme in the main menu are totally blurred, making them pretty hard to see what they are, while the other icon themes work fine. any ideas why ubuntu doesn't use the correct size for them and resizes the smaller icons? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/17/screenshotps7.png
[04:51] <Gnea> *perk* battlestar galactica? *DOWNLOADS*
[04:51] <nickrud> biff420, I have no clue. Where'd you get it?
[04:51] <gvsa123> EDinNY: what about the killall command... there's an option to killall --user... does that mean that everything i opened/ran while i was logged in will be closed down neatly?
[04:51] <Shpook> Oh wait, I inspected further. My problems are related to PulseAudio and not KDE.
[04:51] <Shpook> E: authkey.c: failed to open cookie file '/home/shpook/.pulse-cookie': Permission deniedE: authkey.c: Failed to load authorization key '/home/shpook/.pulse-cookie': Permission denied*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refusedSegmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:51] <Blazer11> anyone have xfree86 working in gutsy
[04:51] <EDinNY> gvsa123, you want to log out before you reboot
[04:52] <tritium> Blazer11: no, Xorg
[04:52] <Shpook> So I think for the time being, I'll revert to ALSA, until PulseAudio has a 1.0.
[04:52] <nickrud> biff420, looking closer, I see you have nvidia defined for one and nv for the other. No clue about that, either. Never used nvidia
[04:52] <biff420> nickrud: it was generated that way when i installed the resticted NVIDIA driver
[04:52] <nickrud> biff420, oh, downloaded from nvidia?
[04:52] <EDinNY> gvsa123: some programs, like mail clients,  do some housekeeping when you shut them down
[04:52] <Blazer11> im in a pickle is there a way? tritium
[04:52] <biff420> nickrud: no just with ubuntu
[04:53] <tritium> Blazer11: why would you want to replace Xorg with Xfree?
[04:53] <biff420> nickrud: i have sli too...not sure how that fits in either...since only one device is defined
[04:53] <TigranG> Hi. Where are the gnome panel configuration files located?
[04:53] <nickrud> biff420, no clue then. Like I said, I don't have nvidia now and when I did it was a lowly 5200 and I never got anything similar to that
[04:53] <biff420> nickrud: no worries...ill find an example sli xorg.conf somewhere
[04:53] <gvsa123> EDinNY: ok.. but when you logout/reboot/shutdown, do open applications get shutdown the proper way also? or do they get "forced quit" or something
[04:53] <Gnea> slugone: try this: sh ./BtRLDemoInstaller.run
[04:53] <Blazer11> xorg does not scan past pci domain 0000, my graphics card is on 0001
[04:54] <biff420> nickrud: thanks for the help
[04:54] <Gnea> Blazer11: is the PCI ID set in the xorg.conf file?
[04:55] <hanasaki> i am running at 1440x900 resolution on a 19" monitor and all the windows/fonts are BIG how can I shrink them/scale them
[04:55] <ogre> what do i type to view free space on my disks?
[04:55] <Gnea> !fonts | hanasaki
[04:55] <ubotu> hanasaki: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:55] <Gnea> ogre: df -Th
[04:55] <nickrud> ogre, df -h
[04:55] <Blazer11> well sort of, its bus id is right but it is in domain 0001 which xorg does not see
[04:55] <EDinNY> gvsa123: oh, now I see what you mean.  you can do a logout shutdown.  Most programs close correctly and will start next time you log in...at least in kde...but some programs like Evolution like to be shut down before you reboot
[04:55] <ogre> thanks
[04:56] <gvsa123> EDinNY: for example, shutting down while openoffice is runnign will cause the unrecovered document recovery thing to pop out the next time you use OOo... and leaving an open nautilus window will cause the next reboot to have an open window already popped up
[04:56] <ridge-meister> what entry should i add to sources.list in order to install gbrainy?
[04:56] <Gnea> Blazer11: mkay, are you trying to do a dual-head display?
[04:56] <TigranG> Where are the gnome panel configuration files located?
[04:56] <Gnea> TigranG: usually in ~/.gnome2/
[04:56] <nickrud> TigranG, you would find them by running gconf-editor, and navigating the tree on the left to /apps/panel
[04:56] <sn00zer> does anyone here use a kvm switch? I'm having issues getting my laptop to display correctly(win xp) and at all (gutsy), laptop is widescreen, main monitor is fullscreen
[04:57] <TigranG> Gnea: thanks
[04:57] <gvsa123> EDinNY: yeah... so the command i was looking for was something that would for example, close all running programs like how they should before processing with the shutdown or reboot.... can i use the killall with that?
[04:57] <Gnea> sn00zer: yeah - who makes your kvm?
[04:57] <sn00zer> gnea: cables to go
[04:57] <slugone> Gnea it is working what does the SH command do ?
[04:57] <Shpoo1> Muah ha ha - Installed ESound, removed all PulseAudio libraries, and all segfaults are gone. I really wish I coulde use PulseAudio though.
[04:57] <EDinNY> gvsa123: sorry, have not tried that.  I close things before shutting down
[04:57] <Gnea> slugone: it executes the file as a shell script
[04:57] <Blazer11> no, im stuck because xorg will not scan multi pci domains, and xfree86 will, this what i found in ubuntu forums, but how do you use xfree86 when its not supported?
[04:58] <slugone> thx a mill
[04:58] <TigranG> Gnea: Where exactly in .gnome2?
[04:58]  * EDinNY goes to next room to install Linux
[04:58] <Gnea> Blazer11: you're still being vague - could you please pastebin the output of this command: lspci | grep VGA
[04:58] <gvsa123> EDinNY: welll thanks anyway
[04:58] <nickrud> TigranG, it's not in .gnome2 , it's under .gconf , but gconf-editor makes browsing that easy
[04:58] <Shpoo1> Alright, easy one now. Anyone remember how to fix the bug where xorg.conf doesn't save changes on restart?
[04:58] <Gnea> TigranG: sorry, my mistake - ~/.gconf/
[04:59] <crush_groove> !ls
[04:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:59] <sn00zer> gnea: in xp it shows up during boot but chops off edges since the resolutions are different, but once in xp i have to use it as an external and i can't set my main(secondary to xp) as primary, and with gutsy i get a black screen
[04:59] <TigranG> nickrud: I need the file for it, exact file, because I'm going to have 2 setups, so I'll just have a script that changes the files.
[04:59] <LucidFox> I've configured Ubuntu Gutsy to use pulseaudio, but it constantly eats about 7% CPU when rhythmbox is playing. What am I doing wrong?
[04:59] <adamonline46> Dang, could anyone tell me how to connect to a samba share from ubuntu?  I can connect to it from WinXP, but not from a separate ubuntu rig...
[04:59] <TigranG> nickrud: so I guess I'll check in ./gconf
[05:00] <LucidFox> adamonline46> smb://host/directory in nautilus
[05:00] <nickrud> TigranG, it' would be ~/.gonf/apps/panel , swap that dir
[05:00] <TigranG> nickrud: Ok. Got it. Thanks
[05:00] <Gnea> sn00zer: that's weird - usually it's belkin kvms that are problematic. checking into it now..
[05:00] <besquare> DON'T DO rm -rf ~/
[05:00] <besquare> never
[05:00] <TigranG> nickrud: Once I swap it, would I need to logout and in for it to take effect?
[05:01] <adamonline46> LucidFox: That's what I've got... I'm using an IP as a hostname, is that kosher?
[05:01]  * Gnea wonders wtf said "rm -rf ~/" in the first place
[05:01] <LucidFox> adamonline46> yes
[05:01] <nickrud> TigranG, you'd have to swap it around while logged out and gconfd-2 is not running; you can use gconftool to change keys while the daemon is running
[05:01] <sn00zer> gnea: its model #35555 if it helps
[05:02] <adamonline46> LucidFox: Shucks.  I'm not able to connect at all.  I've got the firewalls down on both machines...  Any ideas?
[05:03] <TigranG> nickrud: So I can use gconf-editor and navigate to apps/panel save that for the 2 setup, then have the script run gconftool and load the save configurations?
[05:03] <LucidFox> adamonline46> Stupid question, but can you access the same machine using other protocols? Does ping work?
[05:03] <besquare> ls
[05:03] <besquare> exit
[05:03] <KlrSpz> anyone familiar with bridging in ubuntu? trying to get my nic to bridge to my wireless and isn't seeming to actually route traffic; works fine in windows, but that's only a proof of it's ability
[05:03] <besquare> quit
[05:03] <besquare> quit
[05:03] <KlrSpz> lol
[05:04] <adamonline46> LucidFox: Yes, I just SSHed in with no problems...
[05:04] <nickrud> TigranG, I've only used gconftool to prune bad settings. it's not going to be that simple
[05:04] <Dr_willis> KlrSpz,  at one time - one would read the ip-masquerading howto to set  that up. :) not sure if theres an easier /gui way to do it now a days or not.
[05:05] <TigranG> nickrud: K, gonna give it a try
[05:05] <KlrSpz> don't care if it's a gui implementation, i just gotta get this working so i can get my 360 online :)
[05:05] <KlrSpz> (i come from gentoo, so i don't mind getting dirty as long as i can understand it and get it working)
[05:06] <SpookyET> Hi
[05:06] <Gnea> sn00zer: looks like the video quality degredation is a known issue
[05:06] <Dr_willis> KlrSpz,  check out that howto.. and i bet there are some gentoo wiki pages on the same topic.
[05:06] <KlrSpz> although you'd think there'd be a bridge plugin to the network manager
[05:07] <SpookyET> Switching folders in nautilus is extremely slow. Every time I change a folder, I see a network spike in system monitor applet in the panel. What's it doing, looking for network computers?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> never noticed. :) setting up ipmasquerading is like a 3 line script. if i rember right
[05:07] <sn00zer> gnea: are their any workarounds?
[05:07] <RavingGriff> alright, so i dual-boot windows and ubuntu.  a few days ago, i upgraded from an on-board geforce 6600 to a geforce 8500 gt card.  worked fine with windows, but when ubuntu boots, i get a blank screen.  right now i'm running in recovery mode, as root
[05:07] <jamescarr> hey folks
[05:07] <nickrud> KlrSpz, I had some issues with networkmanager in the past, and it's spec is dealing with only one interface at a time
[05:07] <Gnea> sn00zer: sell it and get another?
[05:07] <RavingGriff> a user from my regular irc channel tells me that my driver may be outdated, but i'd like your input
[05:07] <ChrisULM> does anyone know how to setup an ssh tunnel with firefox and putty?
[05:07] <Gnea> sn00zer: i've had very good luck with iogear
[05:08] <sn00zer> gnea: i have my desktop connected to it and it works fine, its just the laptop
[05:08] <troxor> ChrisULM: something like ssh -D ?
[05:08] <Dr_willis> RavingGriff,  I think there may be some issues with the 8500 card. They both should be using the same nvidia drivers  BUT the 8500 may be wanting the glx-new driver. not the normal glx one.
[05:08] <jamescarr> I am having trouble installing ... the live cd startup seems to hang on detecting hard drives... any idea whats up? The drives currently use the UFS (or is UHS) file format for BSD
[05:08] <ChrisULM> troxor, not sure. basically i want to tunnel through my dd-wrt router at home using ssh
[05:08] <Dr_willis> !find glx
[05:08] <ubotu> Found: libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg, libglitz-glx1, libglitz-glx1-dev, libxcb-glx0 (and 9 others)
[05:08] <TigranG> nickrud: How can I save it to a file? It says --dump, So I do gconftool --demp /apps/panel [dir]. Is that right?
[05:08] <troxor> ChrisULM: which way?
[05:09] <Gnea> sn00zer: right, but the point of using a kvm in the first place is to be able to swap between systems without any issues
[05:09] <sn00zer> gnea: and shouldn't windows at least work with it?
[05:09] <Blazer11> Gnea 0001:00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[05:09] <craig123> irc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdcc
[05:09] <ChrisULM> troxor, when im on my laptop at my university, i want to tunnel back to my router at home
[05:09] <nickrud> TigranG, I looked over the man page again, and once again accepted that I am no gconftool expert . setting a key or two, or using --recursive-unset is the limits of my knowledge
[05:10] <RavingGriff> Dr_willis, am i going to need to apt get those packages?
[05:10] <tarelerulz> I can't seem to copy files using samba  I don't know why so I thought I would use scp ,but I can't  understand if it is working or not .  I can ssh into the other computer .  anyone have an example what you need to put in
[05:10] <TigranG> nickrud: K, thanks.
[05:10] <ChrisULM> troxor, ive connected to the router from another IP using SSH, but i dont know what to do from there
[05:10] <troxor> ChrisULM: just forward port 22
[05:10] <Dr_willis> RavingGriff,  You may want to doublt check the !nvidia factoid links. THey got a link to a list of what cards need what drivers..  you should be able to just apt-get install the right ones.
[05:10] <nickrud> TigranG, sorry. If you look around gnome.org , you'll probably find a tutorial
[05:10] <troxor> ChrisULM: and change dd-wrt's listening ssh daemon  to 222 or somesuch
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | RavingGriff
[05:10] <ubotu> RavingGriff: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:10] <x_or> I think I might have been cracked, when I run grep it says "grep: unrecognized option `--post-data'"  I think someone might have replaced grep in the execution chain with wget to post files when grep is run using an automated process.  Has anyone heard of anything like this before?
[05:11] <ChrisULM> will try that, thanks
[05:11] <RavingGriff> thank you, Dr_willis
[05:11] <SpookyET> Will someone help please?
[05:11] <KlrSpz> Dr_willis: when you say a 3 line script, you mean injections to the iptables?
[05:11] <alexandroid> still waiting with my question. =) To put it simple: how do I check that grub is installed ok in external HDD and it is bootable?
[05:11] <KlrSpz> ie, routing packets from one nic to another?
[05:11] <sunogbaga> SpookyET: ask
[05:11] <SpookyET> sunogbaga: I did
[05:11] <Gnea> sn00zer: there seems to be some conflicting info about these... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ma/2007-November/000980.html  goes out on a limb to actually purchase the same kvm that you have and bad-mouths the iogear - but then again, my iogear is a PS/2 version and doesn't hassle with the USB power issues
[05:11] <nickrud> alexandroid, try to boot ? ;)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> KlrSpz,  if i rember the old way (it proberly hasent changed much) you enable the ipmasquerading with some echo command to set it up. then its like 1 or 2 iptables rules.
[05:12] <KlrSpz> alexandroid: it'll tell you once you tell grub to put it on the drive, as for bootable that's up to your bios to support booting usb devices
[05:12] <KlrSpz> ah yeah like the forwarding node in the proc fs
[05:12] <sunogbaga> SpookyET: didn't see your post.. whats the prob?
[05:13] <Gnea> sn00zer: and i've seen the same issue with the bootup-into-640x480 in linux but that's a simple reboot issue (with the iogear), but it never provides any problems with resolution cropness
[05:13] <KlrSpz> Dr_willis: i think i did this a loooooooong time ago in school; but it's been so long i can't remember what we did or how we accomplished it.. i'll read up.. thanks for the tip
[05:13] <SpookyET> sunogbaga:  Switching folders in nautilus is extremely slow. Every time I change a folder, I see a network spike in system monitor applet in the panel. What's it doing, looking for network computers?
[05:13] <KlrSpz> SpookyET: check out dstat, it should tell you what portion of your system is being hit when you feel those lags
[05:14] <alexandroid> well, i tried booting from it. It seems not to work - blank screen. However I'd expect it to say "not bootable" in case of real problem. BIOS seems to support booting from USB (at least it is in the list of bootable devices)
[05:14] <KlrSpz> also, when it does it you can watch your netstat if you're certain it's the network to see what it's tring to connect to
[05:14] <SpookyET> KlrSpz: dstat?
[05:14] <adamonline46> Is there a samba client?
[05:14] <x_or> Anyone know of cracker problems with postfix?  I think my machine has been cracked and I just setup postfix recently, so I wonder if there is a vulnerability.
[05:14] <KlrSpz> SpookyET: yeah, install it
[05:14] <pr0nGuy> anyone use virtualbox?
[05:14] <robdig> adamonline46: yes, smbclient
[05:14] <sunogbaga> adamonline46: yes there is
[05:14] <KlrSpz> (not at an ubuntu box so i'm not sure what the real pkg name is)
[05:15] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: yep.. love it
[05:15] <adrian__> HELP!! I have  a problem. when i rebooted my comp, it did the sda1 check. but it would not complete the check because it said it had trouble with loading a file called micronode-(random number). or something like that. and it would not let me got in to my home area. so i tryed some various recoverymodes and i finally got in, by just starting the recoverymode, and exitiing it. i think i might have been lucky this time, anyone knows what i
[05:15] <adrian__> can do to avoid hitting this problem in the future?
[05:15] <nickrud> alexandroid, try editing the menu.lst , find the kernel line that has quiet splash on it. Remove those words, at least it'll remove the chance that it's a framebuffer issue
[05:15] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: i just installed it.  do I have to run updates?
[05:15] <Blazer11> Gnea, do u see wht im talkin bout
[05:15] <Romes> kinda weird question: where do the ubuntu devs hang out?
[05:15] <SpookyET> KlrSpz: It's telling me the same thing as system monitor applet
[05:15] <SpookyET> The network is getting hit
[05:16] <Gnea> Blazer11: no not really - it looks like you have a single video card going to just one monitor, right?
[05:16] <SpookyET> I don't know why. I'm surfing my home directory
[05:16] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy:  generally download it from the developer's site to ensure the latest; are you having problems?
[05:16] <tarelerulz> To use scp I did this scp username@192.168.x.x and then it goes to the next line ? What am I doing wrong
[05:16] <KlrSpz> SpookyET: right ok so check out netstat (try watch -n 1 netstat -anp)
[05:16] <adamonline46> robdig: Hmm, I have it already... Is there a config file or do I have to add users to it or anything?  I can't smb out for the life of me...
[05:16] <WildeSehnsucht> hi. i would like to restrict *some* (not all) applications to send any data to broadcast on the network (255.255.255.255). is there any gui tool to control things like these?
[05:16] <Blazer11> ya,notice its on pic domain 0001 0001:00:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[05:16] <Gnea> tarelerulz: are you trying to send or receive a file?
[05:16] <KlrSpz> and see what happens when you browse, see if it's searching a local ip or remote or whatnot
[05:16] <Blazer11> pci sorry
[05:16] <sunogbaga> tarelerulz: scp copies files.. you have to put files in the params.. just like normal cp
[05:16] <tarelerulz> Gnea, I am trying to send a file
[05:17] <nickrud> tarelerulz, what way are you trying to transfer?
[05:17] <Gnea> Blazer11: yeah so that's built-in or is it a separate card?
[05:17] <tarelerulz> An .wav file
[05:17] <KlrSpz> you need a source and dest
[05:17] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I've just installed.  the only reason I want it is to print from my canon and lexmark printers.
[05:17] <KlrSpz> scp localfile.wav user@host:~/
[05:17] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I got it from synaptic
[05:17] <Gnea> tarelerulz: scp file.wav user@IP:/directory/you/want/it/in
[05:17] <Some_Person> Is there an Ubuntu repository for Firefox 3 Beta 2?
[05:18] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: should be ok, but have you tried cups? they'll generally support most printers if nothing else but by postscript output
[05:18] <Blazer11> separate, prob is its pcie 16x, so cant change slots
[05:18] <bazhang> Some_Person: currently no
[05:18] <soldats> pr0nGuy, lexmark isnt supported i believe
[05:18] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I'll look into that cups.
[05:18] <Xplicit> Some_Person: no just unpack it
[05:18] <Some_Person> Or a deb package?
[05:18] <Gnea> Blazer11: if that's the case, then xorg shouldn't care - it should find it and deal with it at installation
[05:18] <pr0nGuy> soldats: not my lexmark, soldier.
[05:19] <Hyp3r-X> Can anyone help me here the the Audio Sound drivers to install
[05:19] <Gnea> Blazer11: have you tried commenting-out the PCI ID line in the xorg.conf file and pressing ctrl-alt-backspace?
[05:19] <robdig> adamonline46: haven't used it, just use samba so i can print from ubuntu via my xp attached printer
[05:19] <Xplicit> Some_Person: unpack it to opt, link plugins and then link the bin, its easier than finding the deb
[05:19] <Gnea> !sound | Hyp3r-X
[05:19] <ubotu> Hyp3r-X: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:19] <Some_Person> Xplicit: too complex for me
[05:20] <Hyp3r-X> thanx
[05:20] <Blazer11> Gnea read up http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=458297
[05:20] <Arrick> can someone here walk me through installing the newest webmin on ubuntu 6.06.1 server install?
[05:20] <Gnea> Blazer11: oh, this is on a SUN?
[05:21] <bazhang> !webmin
[05:21] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system - Consider "ebox" instead
[05:21] <bazhang> see above Arrick
[05:21] <Blazer11> yes SunBlade 1500
[05:21] <Arrick> yeah, thats what I thought, no support for known good apps.....
[05:21] <WorkingOnWis1> i have totally screwed up my gnome session somehow. If I log in to a gnome session, everything in the panels, and the panes themselves, crash, leaving me only the desktop, and alt-f2 to run apps. I can log into an E-Gnome session (gnome using enlightenment) and the default panels load and all is good. Whats the fastest way to get my regular Gnome defaults back?
[05:21] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: yeah cups in ubuntu is easy.. i think there's already a gnome tool under system called PRINTERS (i use xubuntu so i don't have all the tools) and you can set it up pretty easily in there.. worst case, look for what's called a PPD file (it's basically a printer driver for cups) for your specific printer or one like it, should work fine...
[05:22] <Xplicit> download the tar unpack it with ark, or tar -xvjf , move it to /opt then ln -s /usr/bin/firefox3 /opt/firefox/firefox then rmdir /opt/firefox/plugins then ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins /opt/firefox/plugins
[05:22] <KlrSpz> my brand new $2000 photo printer works fine with cups, even multiplexing
[05:22] <Gnea> !sparc | Blazer11
[05:22] <ubotu> Blazer11: Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[05:22] <astro76> Arrick, I've never known webmin to be good :P
[05:22] <Gnea> Blazer11: this channel is pretty much x86-based
[05:22] <Arrick> and it doesnt support nearly anything that webmin does
[05:22] <adamonline46> robdig: alright, ty
[05:22] <Arrick> ok, can someone just tell me how to use a deb to install to ubuntu?
[05:22] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I'm fairly certain that my Canon PIXMA MP210 is not supported at all.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
[05:23] <x_or> Is ebox in dapper respos, or do you need to install via source?
[05:23] <astro76> Arrick, dpkg -i
[05:23] <bazhang> !info ebox
[05:23] <ubotu> ebox: eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[05:23] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: yeah.. yer wrong :) http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP210
[05:23] <nickrud> Arrick, you're missing the point, webmin doesn't function with the way debian sets up the configuration files
[05:23] <kk-opera> Arrick: double click
[05:23] <sunogbaga> adamonline46: youve installed smbclient?
[05:23] <astro76> Arrick, or double click it
[05:23] <KlrSpz> or dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[05:23] <Blazer11> Oh sorry, is there somewhere else i should ask, if some could help me get xfree86 installed i think that would do it
[05:24] <Arrick> double click from the terminal?
[05:24] <ridge-meister> what entry should i add to sources.list in order to install gbrainy?
[05:24] <Arrick> thanks klasu_
[05:24] <Arrick> KlrSpz ^
[05:24] <Gnea> Blazer11: have you just tried apt-get install xserver-xfree86?
[05:24] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4012218 <-- also.. just google your model and ubuntu in there and you'll find plenty of hits
[05:25] <Arrick> nickrud I know that not to be right, I have 1.270 installed right now, and I want to update it to the new version.
[05:25] <nickrud> Gnea, that just depends on xserver-xorg
[05:25] <Gnea> nickrud: not the point.
[05:25] <Gnea> you can choose which xserver to use after that
[05:25] <Blazer11> yes, only thing avail was transition dummy package
[05:25] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: yes, I have.  Have you been following my problem?  I can access my samba shares from WinXP, but when I try to access them from a third machine running kubuntu I can't.  However, I can ssh and ping the smb server...
[05:25] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I just need to use a driver from another printer and it should work, right?
[05:25] <alexandroid> nickrud: will try that, thank you!
[05:26] <Gnea> oy
[05:26] <Gnea> *headdesk*
[05:26] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, from ur other ubuntu machine try this smbclient --list=ip_of_the_server
[05:26] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Oh wait, I take it back... I can't seem to ping the server
[05:26] <nickrud> lol
[05:27] <shm613> does anyone know if devilspie has been set up to work with compiz-fusion?
[05:28] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: When I do that it hangs.  When I do it with known functioning samba servers it asks for my password, then says 'session status failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[05:28] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, be sure you have network connections set up first.. smbclient(as far as i know) doesn't need config
[05:29] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, and ur windows box connects without passwords?
[05:29] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: By network connections, you mean aside from Samba?  Dang, it seems I can do everything else with each machine, just not these two together...
[05:29] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: No, it asks for passwords...
[05:30] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, can you configure your smb server so as not to ask password?
[05:30] <Viaken> Long story short, someone left a huge note of some type on my sister's laptop. I -think- it was a tooltip of some sort. At least, it was yellow with a darker left border. I wasn't sure what type of window it was, but thought it was a sticky-note style window and clicked on it to copy/paste the text, but it disappeared. I don't know what program generated it. Any ideas? Suggestions?
[05:31] <Viaken> Or is it gone into the aether?
[05:31] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Possibly, I wouldn't know where to start there... :)
[05:31] <WorkingOnWis1> i have totally screwed up my gnome session somehow. If I log in to a gnome session, everything in the panels, and the panes themselves, crash, leaving me only the desktop, and alt-f2 to run apps. I can log into an E-Gnome session (gnome using enlightenment) and the default panels load and all is good. Whats the fastest way to get my regular Gnome defaults back?
[05:31] <nickrud> Viaken, sounds like a notification of some kind, do you remember much of the text?
[05:31] <Xplicit> how do i install my root partion to an lvm thing (the 1s where you can resize it)
[05:31] <bazhang> Viaken: knotes? tomboy?
[05:31] <Gnea> Blazer11: silly question - are you using the ReferenceClock option?
[05:31] <webspiderus> is there any reason why my ubuntu desktop would appear tiled?
[05:31] <Viaken> nickrud: Some of it. But some of it was misspelled in creative ways. :P
[05:32] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, wait., ill paste my config.. os youll have a headstart
[05:32]  * Viaken greps
[05:32] <KlrSpz> pr0nGuy: sorry, was reading this howto, yeah that's how it seems.. a model lower than yours, but supports most basic printing features
[05:32] <nickrud> webspiderus, you meant the background?
[05:32] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Cool, thanks!
[05:32] <webspiderus> no, i mean everything
[05:32] <webspiderus> my windows kinda wrap around
[05:32] <dewbie> I was wondering how to get my Linksys WPC54GS Wireless-G Notebook Adapter working with Ubuntu 7.04. Please help?
[05:32] <webspiderus> nickrud: it's like the edge of my desktop is somewhere in the middle
[05:32] <rkj> sunogbaga, adamonline46: I'm trying to solve a similar problem. How do you configure the ubuntu machine to not demand a password from a user on a windows machine?
[05:33] <Viaken> bazhang: This is running Xubuntu, actually. xfce-popup-notes didn't look the same, though.
[05:33] <nickrud> webspiderus, are you running compiz?
[05:33] <adamonline46> rkj: I wish I knew, I'd like ONE share to do that 8)
[05:33] <webspiderus> nickrud: I don't think so .. what is compiz o_O;
[05:33] <bazhang> dewbie what is the chipet?
[05:33] <Viaken> I thought it could be an orage notification, but I couldn't find anything in orage's configs.
[05:33] <bazhang> Viaken: ah I see
[05:33] <sunogbaga> rkj, adamonline46 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49767/
[05:33] <nickrud> webspiderus, the pretty desktop with fading windows and the like
[05:33] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Wow that's it!? :O
[05:34] <KlrSpz> any network/bridge gurus? I'm trying to bridge a NIC to a wireless USB device... I've tried using ubuntu's bridging which seems to initialize the hardware fine (and i can still connect to the net) but the network traffic is not properly routing... anything i'm missing? the route table seems right with everything on eth0 routing to wlan0
[05:34] <webspiderus> nickrud: just looks ... pretty regular. I had the same problem when booting from the livecd, too
[05:34] <Xplicit> how do i install my root partion to an lvm
[05:34] <dewbie> bazhang, I am not sure. How do I find the chipset?
[05:34] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, yah, thats all of it.
[05:34] <CentHOGG> heh, i got the cheapest mp3 for xmas... coby
[05:34] <nickrud> webspiderus, hm, then it's probably not what I was thinking, and if so I have no clue
[05:34] <bazhang> dewbie: usb dongle?
[05:34] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, hopefully ur windows box. wont prompt for password
[05:34] <webspiderus> nickrud: so no, I don't think I have compiz :P
[05:34] <Gnea> KlrSpz: what commands did you use to make the bridge?
[05:35] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Where you force user to erwin, and force group to root... Is that safe?
[05:35] <RavingGriff> earlier, i was on with driver issues related to my new geforce 8500.  Dr_willis pointed me to the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto , but it's not helping, as the fixes it listed require x to be up and running, but i am unable to get x to start because of the driver issue
[05:35] <dewbie> bazhang, pci
[05:35] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, nope,, not at all..
[05:35] <egc> go Texas!
[05:35] <egc> ;)
[05:35] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: And you have security = share... Hmm, that sounds like something that might make a difference
[05:35] <rkj> sungbaga: I'll bet that will help - now how do I edit smb.conf and where do I find it? The man page references a program called swat but thwen there's no man page for swat.
[05:35] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, you can remove it however
[05:35] <Gnea> RavingGriff: just set the current driver to nv
[05:35] <bazhang> dewbie: lspci in the terminal (dont paste here)
[05:35] <dewbie> k
[05:36] <RavingGriff> Gnea, how would i go about doing that?
[05:36] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, don't really care about security issues here at home
[05:36] <Gnea> RavingGriff: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: I kinda feel ya, this thing's gonna be locked down when I finish anyway 8)
[05:36] <StratPlayedBlue> anyone know how to make something compile with SSP?
[05:37] <KlrSpz> Gnea: i used the /etc/network/interfaces file to bridge, then restarted the networking... ifconfig shows the two devices having their own ip's, and dstat shows the nic getting packets from the 360 just fine.. but isn't routing to wlan0... i know my hardware is capable as i've had bridging working in windows... but i had to set a promiscuous mode in windows which i can't find a valid way to do it in ubuntu. not sure if htis is m
[05:37] <dewbie> bazhang, http://pastebin.ca/834429
[05:37] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Well, I appreciate the help, I'll give this a shot n let you know :)
[05:37] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, no problem
[05:37] <nimbus_bk> ?
[05:37] <Gnea> KlrSpz: can you paste the output of that file to pastebin please?
[05:37] <RavingGriff> also, Gnea, if it's prevalent...my new card is not on this list http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html of supported cards
[05:37] <jhonovich> how can i get a report of memory usage by process?  i know top and free but neither seems to provide this
[05:38] <Gnea> KlrSpz: if the bridge is up, then the only device to get an IP is the bridge interface itself
[05:38] <nimbus_bk> what can t do
[05:38] <bazhang> dewbie: sorry that page wont load for me--if you just tell me the wireless chipset, or the numbers after ID then that would do :}
[05:38] <rkj> sunogbaga: How do I edit smb.conf and where do I find it? The man page references a program called swat but then there's no man page for swat.
[05:38] <bazhang> nimbus_bk: what is your question?
[05:38] <dewbie> bashang, 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[05:39] <EDinNY> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:39] <rkj> ok thanks
[05:39] <bazhang> !broadcom
[05:39] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:39] <dewbie> oops bazhang*
[05:39] <bazhang> see above dewbie
[05:39] <nickrud> nimbus_bk, your question probably got lost in the scroll, ask it again
[05:40] <KlrSpz> Gnea: yeah i'm actually not on the box, was just looking for insight... and yeah, i mis-spoke.. i meant that ifconfig showed both being up; with only br0 having an IP (i can't remember if it was my internal subnet, or the subnet for the bridged devices)
[05:40] <Gnea> KlrSpz: it's basically like each network card is a hand, and when you bridge them, you're taking a very large mitton and placing it over both hands at once to keep them warm at the same time - the outside world doesn't see the hands, it just sees the mitton, therefore the only way to put an IP on the bridge is via the interface itself - snow and ice on the hands inside the mittons would not work, just like IP's on the main interfaces them
[05:40] <nimbus_bk> i don't know
[05:40] <bazhang> nimbus_bk: you have a question or not?
[05:40] <RavingGriff> thank you for your help, gnea, i'm going to reboot and try
[05:40] <StratPlayedBlue> what's a good channel to get programming help?
[05:40] <ridge-meister> what entry should i add to sources.list in order to install the package "GBRAINY"??
[05:41] <Gnea> KlrSpz: ah ok - well, if you could paste the output of that file, i could certainly help better
[05:41] <Gnea> !pastebin | KlrSpz
[05:41] <ubotu> KlrSpz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:41] <bazhang> ridge-meister: why do that? is it a repository or just a package?
[05:41] <nimbus_bk> i don't understand
[05:42] <bazhang> nimbus_bk: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <ridge-meister> bazhang: i thought it was a package, and isn't the normal procedure to install packages using the repositories?
[05:42] <KlrSpz> Gnea: you're talking about the interfaces file? i'll have to check back tomorrow night.. i should be getting to bed for work in the morning :S
[05:42] <ridge-meister> bazhang: if I install the package, then won't i have to deal with a bunch of dependancy issues?
[05:42] <KlrSpz> Gnea: are you around often?
[05:42] <bazhang> ridge-meister: well yes, unless the repositories dont have it :} is it a deb? or other
[05:42] <nimbus_bk> po tay .com
[05:43] <bazhang> nimbus_bk: last warning
[05:43] <Gnea> KlrSpz: a bit here and there - i'm gonna be outta town the next few days, but there are plenty of networking gurus around here :)
[05:43] <nickrud> nimbus_bk, language?
[05:43] <StratPlayedBlue> what a good channel to get some programming help? i've got a problem compiling something i wrote with stack overflow protection
[05:43] <ridge-meister> bazhang: yes, it's a deb
[05:43] <WorkingOnWis1> i have totally screwed up my gnome session somehow. If I log in to a gnome session, everything in the panels, and the panes themselves, crash, leaving me only the desktop, and alt-f2 to run apps. I can log into an E-Gnome session (gnome using enlightenment) and the default panels load and all is good. Whats the fastest way to get my regular Gnome defaults back?
[05:43] <Blazer11> Gnea i pmd u
[05:43] <KlrSpz> alright, thanks for the interest.. c'ya around
[05:43] <rromanchuk_> join #facebook
[05:43] <rromanchuk_> grr
[05:43] <Gnea> Blazer11: you need to register in order to do it
[05:44] <KlrSpz> WorkingOnWis1: kill the .gnome folders in your home dir, and possibly your .cache folder for sessions
[05:44] <Arrick> nickrud it works, can you tell me how to copy all the files *and* directories into another directory on 6.06.1 with a terminal command?
[05:44] <bazhang> ridge-meister: well you would download it and then double click it, though yes there are some risks involved as you mentioned before--might you not google the forums and see others experience first? something like: ubuntu gutsy gbrainy would give some links most likely
[05:45] <nickrud> Arrick, cp -r  /path/to/source/files/*  /destiantion/folder
[05:45] <Arrick> thanks
[05:46] <bazhang> !info gbrainy
[05:46] <ubotu> Package gbrainy does not exist in gutsy
[05:47] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Ooh, neat, I can log in without a password from windows now 8)
[05:47] <nickrud> ridge-meister, did you get that deb from debian , or where?
[05:47] <bazhang> WorkingOnWis1: you want to re add the gnome panels?
[05:48] <bazhang> adamonline46: nice work!
[05:49] <_Kernel> !secure-delete
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secure-delete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <Spaceman3750> OK, so, if the wiki says that my RealTek 8187B is not supported in the installed system, that means Ubuntu won't recognize it, period, right?
[05:49] <Spaceman3750> *RealTek 8187B wireless NIC
[05:50] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: means you need to get ndiswrapper or some other workaround
[05:50] <ridge-meister> nickrud: when i tried to installing using the deb it said that a dependancy wasn't satisfied.
[05:50] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: What are my odds with ndiswrapper?
[05:50] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, how about from the other ubuntu box?
[05:50] <Spaceman3750> I'm just running off the LiveCD until I know it will work
[05:50] <ridge-meister> nickrud: now i am trying to install from a tgz file.  when i typed in "sh ./configure" it said "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:50] <ridge-meister> "
[05:50] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: apart from the hassle quite good
[05:50] <GoMittGo> Mitt Romney understands the importance of the tech sector to our economy.
[05:51] <GoMittGo> "Today, we face a new generation of challenges, globally and here at home.We will do as Americans have always done: we will rise to the occasion.We have all that we need.We have technology, technology that would have been beyond the imagination of our grandparents.We have national wealth. And most important, we have the heart and passion of the American people - always the greatest source of our strength as a nation."
[05:51] <astro76> !ops | GoMittGo
[05:51] <bmwerks> is there a way to get paid support for 7.10?
[05:51] <ubotu> GoMittGo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[05:51] <GoMittGo> Mitt Romney for President 2008   Move America forward with us!
[05:51] <bazhang> GoMittGo: stop it
[05:51] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: OK, let me do a little research
[05:51] <nickrud> ridge-meister, install build-essential
[05:51] <MenZa> bazhang: spambot, it's no use.
[05:51] <bazhang> MenZa: I see haha
[05:51] <nickrud> well he just lot my vote
[05:51] <pr0nGuy> KlrSpz: I'm running Windows XP on Ubuntu via virtualbox.  Do I need to run updates and activate Windows?
[05:51] <bazhang> nickrud: hehe
[05:52] <ridge-meister> nickrud: that's a big file :) shouldn't that have been installed already?
[05:52] <nickrud> ridge-meister, you're gonna run into a lot of issues compiling that, it'll keep saying you're missing libraries also
[05:52] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: No such luck :(
[05:52] <bmwerks> can i get paid support for 7.10?
[05:52] <adamonline46> and that's the only ubuntu box with a GUI
[05:52] <nickrud> ridge-meister, no, ubuntu isn't a compiling distro by defaut
[05:53] <chaosrl> does anyone have experience with ipod syncing and gutsy?
[05:53] <nickrud> bmwerks, yes, canonical.com
[05:53] <bazhang> bmwerks: why pay? here is free :}
[05:53] <MenZa> !ipod | chaosrl
[05:53] <ubotu> chaosrl: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:53] <ridge-meister> nickrud: what's going to give me issues?  gbrainy or build-essential ?
[05:53] <gvsa123> bmwerks: i though 8.04 was getting LTS
[05:53] <nickrud> ridge-meister, gbrainy
[05:53] <MenZa> bazhang: some companies just need to make sure they can get their support when they want it.
[05:53] <Amaranth> That might work for awhile
[05:53] <bmwerks> ive never gotten an answer here
[05:53] <MenZa> gvsa123: it is.
[05:53] <gvsa123> bazhang: lol
[05:53] <MenZa> !hardy | gvsa123
[05:53] <ubotu> gvsa123: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:53] <bmwerks> so im seeking other ways
[05:54] <bazhang> MenZa: sure, but here is more fun :}
[05:54] <MenZa> heh
[05:54] <bazhang> bmwerks: what is your question?
[05:54] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, how about from the same machine?
[05:54] <gvsa123> bmwerks: why not wait for 8.04 then get paid support :)
[05:54] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: OK, the Wiki says to use the Win98 drivers...  I'm confused, so NDISWrapper is used to run the Win98 drivers?
[05:54] <Spaceman3750> Or NDISWrapper IS the driver I should use?
[05:54] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: The same machine?  The server?
[05:54] <nickrud> ridge-meister, rule of thumb: when it says it can't find a library (like gtk)   add  lib to the front and do:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev , the -dev files have the stuff you need to compile
[05:54] <astro76> gvsa123, it's by the year, it doesn't matter what version
[05:54] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: yes
[05:54] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: 1st or 2nd?
[05:55] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, yes
[05:55] <gvsa123> astro76: what's by the year? offering LTS?
[05:55] <bmwerks> its mostly with the gui when i change desktops i lose my icons and panels
[05:55] <astro76> gvsa123, canonical's support contracts
[05:55] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: to the first, thus the wrapper part of the name
[05:55] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: It would have to be by CLI... Do you know how I could go about that?
[05:55] <stewart> how do i hide icons on the desktop?
[05:55] <Spaceman3750> So bazhang should I go ahead and install Gutsy and there's a very good chance I can get my wireless card working?
[05:55] <gvsa123> astro76: oh...
[05:55] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, oh!
[05:55] <bazhang> bmwerks: could you specify a bit more?
[05:56] <ridge-meister> nickrud: when you say add lib to the front do you mean "apt-get install -lib build-essential"?
[05:56] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, can you smbclient --lish=server_ip --no-pass
[05:56] <gvsa123> astro76: so does giving LTS to a particular version of ubuntu mean that it's a version they think is the most stable or milestone?
[05:56] <nickrud> ridge-meister, no. install build-essential, it has the compiler. Then when configure says it can't find a library, do like my example
[05:56] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: if you google rtl8187 gutsy you will get some excellent links on how to do it--I'm blogging atm or I would do it for you :}
[05:56] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: Thanks :)
[05:57] <nickrud> ridge-meister, then install the package (like libgtk2.0-dev)
[05:57] <bmwerks> if i go to the second desktop or anyone of them the icons on the desktop disappear and the panels too i have to log out and sign in back to see them again
[05:57] <tarelerulz> I did tranfer with scp and the files which is .wav file will not play on the other system .  I did this scp file.wav  username@ip:/home/username/filename.wav . It transfers really fast . I am on wireless and I know it is not that fast. I have seen this happen on the web to when file tranfers to fast and it being missed
[05:57] <astro76> gvsa123, LTS refers mostly to the fact that it will get security updates for 5 years on server, 3 years on desktop, as opposed to 18 months for non-LTS
[05:57] <rich1> how do i set dolphin up to show hidden files by default?
[05:57] <bazhang> rich1: go to #kubuntu?
[05:57] <astro76> gvsa123, for everyone, nothing to do with the paid support
[05:58] <gvsa123> astro76: but how do they determine which version to give LTS to? i mean why 8.04 and not 7.10 or others?
[05:58] <nickrud> looks like the ops will be busy tonight
[05:58] <tumbleweed__> lol
[05:58] <astro76> gvsa123, duno, 6.06 was the first, 8.04 is two years later, it has to be within a 3 year window so they can support LTS -> LTS upgrades
[05:58] <bazhang> bmwerks: the second desktop? are you using compiz?
[05:58] <rich1> bazhang: thanks.
[05:58] <Hippotamus> What codecs will I need to burn DVD's?
[05:59] <bazhang> !who | bmwerks
[05:59] <ubotu> bmwerks: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:59] <gvsa123> astro76: i see... and LTS is only for updates? not upgrades? like new versions of software (OOo, FF, etc..)
[05:59] <ridge-meister> nickrud: i never saw your example, all i recall you saying was to add lib to the front, but that doesn't make any sense to me :)
[05:59] <bazhang> Hippotamus: from an iso, or to make video dvds or other
[06:00] <bmwerks> bazhang: yeah i am
[06:00] <nickrud> ridge-meister,  rule of thumb: when it says it can't find a library (like gtk)   add  lib to the front and do:  apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev , the -dev files have the stuff you need to compile
[06:00] <astro76> gvsa123, not sure I understand, an LTS release is like any other, except that the repositories for the LTS releases will function longer
[06:00] <bmwerks> !tab
[06:00] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:00] <Hippotamus> bazhang: from an iso
[06:00] <bazhang> bmwerks: have you tried to recreate the error with compiz disabled?
[06:00] <tarelerulz> When I try to use samba  I can't write to my shares. access is denied .  Cold the scp and samba not working be related?
[06:00] <nickrud> ridge-meister, when you hit the first one, I'll walk you through
[06:00] <ridge-meister> nickrud what specifically do i type when adding lib to the front?  i'm confused
[06:01] <bazhang> Hippotamus: right click open with cd/dvd creator does not work?
[06:01] <ridge-meister> nickrud:okay
[06:01] <bmwerks> bazhang: no i havent, ill try that
[06:01] <gvsa123> astro76: ah... so if the repos function longer, then i guess that means that newer versions of software that make it into the repos, will be part of the upgrades... meaning, you'll get to upgrade OOo via update manager
[06:01] <phosphoricx> what is the best way to search inside many files, of a certain type (say *.h), for a certain string?
[06:01] <qukk> Hello Ubuntu channel, does anyone know if there is a way to set up a linux router to allow NAT'd computers to use uPnP to dynamically generate port forewarding rules?
[06:01] <Hippotamus> bazhang: no, but I think it might me a hardware problem
[06:01] <ridge-meister> nickrud: i'm on dialup, so that 13.3mb file is only 20% done
[06:01] <Sneaks> New to IRC and ubuntu so forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask.  I need help getting a tri-boot to work.  I need to run XP, I am running 6.06 and I have 7.10 installed on a separate partition.  I  can't get 7.10 to boot.  Can anyone help?
[06:02] <Nostahl> is there a linux driver for netgear's WG111v3 wireless usb adapter yet
[06:02] <nickrud> phosphoricx, grep <string> *.h
[06:02] <bmk789_> how do i get my mute button to work?  when i press it, it says mute on or mute off but it doesnt actually mute the device
[06:02] <bazhang> Hippotamus: try that first
[06:02] <astro76> gvsa123, no, with any time-based release distro (as opposed to rolling release), each version only gets security updates and critical bugfixes, no new versions
[06:02] <phosphoricx> Sneaks: what's the problem?
[06:02] <phosphoricx> nickrud: I need t
[06:02] <astro76> gvsa123, there is a backports repo for each release however
[06:02] <bazhang> Nostahl: is that the ralink 2500 chipset?
[06:02] <nickrud> t?
[06:02] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Sorry, phone call from the girly 8)  Should I do that from the server?
[06:02] <Nostahl> morvel or movell or however its pronounced bazhang
[06:02] <Sneaks> I installed 7.10 on a separate partition no problem but I can't boot it.  I can boot XP and 6.06 but 7.10 isnt an option under my grub meneu
[06:02] <phosphoricx> nickrud: typo, sorry :-p
[06:03] <gvsa123> astro76: no new versions for software you mean? such that you wouldn't have gotten OOo 2.3 if you stuck with fiesty?
[06:03] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, from the client
[06:03] <nickrud> ridge-meister, If I'm not around, ask for help in identifying development headers
[06:03] <astro76> gvsa123, indeed
[06:03] <bazhang> Nostahl: could you be more precise? Or I may say do this or something like it as advice :}
[06:03] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, and try it from the server also
[06:03] <phosphoricx> sneaks: you should be able to boot to it once you add it to your GRUB menu
[06:03] <gvsa123> astro76: i see...
[06:03] <Sneaks> How do I add it to my grub menu?
[06:04] <Nostahl> bazhang its the netgear wg111v3 with movell chipset
[06:04] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: it works from the server...
[06:04] <Nostahl> bazhang or however movell is spelt :P
[06:04] <bazhang> Nostahl: is it plugged in now, and are you on that computer?
[06:04] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, it didn't work from the client?
[06:04] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: and the client
[06:05] <phosphoricx> sneaks: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:05] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, then your client was able to connect
[06:05] <Nostahl> aye its pluged in the computer is running software updates atm
[06:05] <Hyp3r-X> !sound
[06:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:05] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Interesting.  I'm still not able to connect to the point I can see the files, though
[06:05] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, try visiting the shared folder from  places->nework->
[06:05] <Sneaks> Ok, but menu.lst refers to files in /boot/grub.  7.10 is not in that directory.  It is on a separate partition and I can't even mount that partition?  Don't know how?
[06:05] <bazhang> Nostahl: open up a terminal when that is done and type in lsusb and tell me the number for that chipset after the ID
[06:06] <adamonline46> in Dolphin I'm doing smb://192.168.1.108/data, and it seems to be hanging still
[06:07] <nickrud> Sneaks, you don't need mount the other partition to edit the one in 6.06. What partition is your 7.10 on?
[06:07] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: When I go to 'samba shares' -> mshome I see nothing.  It DOES say '1 folder, 0 files', but I don't see anything in there
[06:07] <Likuid_Silence> wow i just fixed that stupid Failed to initialize HAL message!! grrr
[06:07] <Likuid_Silence> anyone had that problem befo?
[06:08] <Nostahl> bazhang i think it'll be a little bit before its done... old dell inspiron 1000 hehe
[06:08] <bazhang> Nostahl: no hurry--well be here all night :}
[06:08] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, silly, but a reboot may do the trick
[06:09] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: client?
[06:09] <Sneaks> Phosphoricx  I just tired to send you a message on the new tab that popped up on my system but it said I wasn't allowed to post private messages.  I will go to register now so that I can.
[06:09] <sunogbaga> adamonline46, yes.. the client.. or try restarting the clients network first
[06:09] <mhiku> anyone want to have homebased php web dev pm me :)
[06:10] <bazhang> mhiku: not the channel for that
[06:10] <joanki> when i open a program through terminal like xchat... i type xchat& but if i close the terminal, for some reason it closes the program.... how can i change this?
[06:10] <nickrud> joanki, after you have started xchat like that, type disown <tab> <enter>
[06:11] <shm613> is there a way to have a window open up on a workspace that is compatible with compiz fusion?
[06:11] <bazhang> joanki need a space after xchat?
[06:11] <Hoxie> looks like she bounced before she got her answer
[06:11] <bazhang> haha
[06:11] <nickrud> bazhang, it'll still die because it's a child of the terminal
[06:11] <adamonline46> o she's back hehe
[06:11] <joanki> sorry got booted
[06:11] <bazhang> nickrud: cheers!
[06:11] <joanki> did anyone answer my q?
[06:11] <adamonline46> two folk 8)
[06:12] <joanki> nickrud, it used to not close if i typed xchat&
[06:12] <bazhang> one right one not :{
[06:12] <joanki> if i left the & off, it did
 joanki, after you have started xchat like that, type disown <tab> <enter>
[06:12] <joanki> ok
[06:12] <joanki> disown eh?
[06:12] <nickrud> joanki, yes, it frees it from the terminal
[06:12] <adamonline46> the other suggested xchat <space> &
[06:12] <joanki> ok that did not work
[06:13] <joanki> bash: disown: current: no such job
[06:13] <bazhang> which was wrong my bad
[06:13] <joanki> ok
[06:13] <joanki> so why would anyone want it to be that way
[06:13] <nickrud> joanki, did you get %xchat when you pressed tab?
[06:13] <joanki> maybe i'm too much into windows, but it seems that if you want to be done with terjminal, that doesn't mean you want to be done with everything else
[06:13] <Nostahl> so you can see the code the programs executing
[06:13] <joanki> no i did not nick
[06:13] <phosphoricx> nickrud: how would I search recursively for the string using a filter of only header files (*.h)  using grep?
[06:14] <nickrud> phosphoricx, grep -r <string> *.h
[06:14] <Hoxie> has anybody had any problems with playing ogg music files? everytime I try with any player it freezes the player and I have to force quit. All other sound is good though....
[06:14] <DragonSpirit> are there any repositories full of software that is somewhat popular besides the ones initially available, or a place that has info on the ones out there
[06:14] <astro76> joanki, then hit alt+F2 and type the command there, it won't be the child of any terminal
[06:14] <nickrud> oh, astro76 chops out the middle man
[06:14] <bazhang> DragonSpirit: like waht?
[06:15] <Soskel> http://webtechmedia.net/wallace_type.mov
[06:15] <soldats> like medibuntu
[06:15] <bazhang> DragonSpirit: backports?
[06:16] <Xplicit> i made a partition system from linux but windows install wont recognise it,
[06:16] <DragonSpirit> Just wanted to see what all was out there, I added medibuntu, and the backports, but wondered if there was any repositories with stuff not available officially by ubuntu, that has been put together by thrid parties
[06:16] <ehc> if I want to rip dvds to my harddrive what file type should I save them in. I want smallest size per quality
[06:17] <astro76> Xplicit, yeah windows won't recognize any of it, should just have to pick the partition you intended to be NTFS, and tell windows to format that one and install there
[06:17] <bazhang> Soskel: you have a question?
[06:17] <Soskel> yes
[06:17] <joanki> nickrud, is that an ok way to do things?
[06:17] <Soskel> how epic was that video?
[06:17] <joanki> use alt F2?
[06:17] <DragonSpirit> well I added the backports as in what was in the update thing
[06:17] <nickrud> joanki, it's how I run nearly everything, alt f2
[06:17] <DragonSpirit> the one you just check
[06:17] <krazytekn0> joanki totally alt f2 rocks
[06:18] <joanki> got it
[06:18] <nickrud> joanki, if you know the name of the program, it's faster than finding the menu item
[06:18] <qukk> I have installed Ubuntu (latest version, server edition) with the alternative CD. How can I get it to boot to command line without having to do Ctrl Alt F1 during boot (where it "hangs" at Running Boot Scripts)?
[06:18] <joanki> why didnt anyone just tell me =p
[06:18] <Xplicit> astro76: i tried that but windows installed half way through my drive (is there a limit to where it can go?)
[06:18] <nickrud> joanki, cuz only astro76 was thinking outside the box
[06:18] <joanki> i asked that q several times
[06:18] <bazhang> ehc: avi seems to be popular though this is not really the channel for that
[06:18] <joanki> oh i see
[06:18] <astro76> joanki, yeah just popped in ;)
[06:18] <joanki> i asked that q like three dif times and no good solution ;)
[06:18] <muaddib> Hello all
[06:18] <joanki> thanks
[06:18] <Spaceman3750> Gutsy has been making room for itself for a good while now, it's been at 0% the whole way.  What do I do?
[06:19] <soldats> hello
[06:19] <joanki> i like gutsy
[06:19] <joanki> i did not at first
[06:19] <Spaceman3750> I'm beginning to not like Gutsy
[06:19] <joanki> what's the prob
[06:19] <Spaceman3750> For some odd reason I'm trying to install it on my laptop anyways
[06:19] <Spaceman3750> It ain't going so hot
[06:19] <joanki> why
[06:19] <joanki> the only thing i don't like is hibernate
[06:19] <Nostahl> i just finnished installing it to my laptop
[06:19] <gvsa123> i like it :)
[06:19] <joanki> but they musta tried to fix it
[06:19] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: you have an actual question in there?
[06:19] <Nostahl> but now im doing the 2 hours of software updates lol
[06:19] <joanki> because it's better
[06:19] <Spaceman3750> Well, it doesn't recognize either my wireless or sound cards, and it's been on 0% for repartitioning progress for like 5 minutes
[06:20] <muaddib> quick question.. I just recently upgraded my machine from 3GB to 8GB of memory. Unfortunately ubuntu is not detecting all of the memory. I assume highmem support is not enabled in the generic kernel.
[06:20] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: See above
[06:20] <astro76> Xplicit, when you paritioned in Linux you made an NTFS partition for windows?
[06:20] <rkj> Hi, can someone help troubleshoot a printing problem? I am printing from my ubuntu box to a WinXP box with an hp laserjet 1320 printer but nothing prints.  the XP machine can print to it locally, and I can access files on the XP machine over the LAN.
[06:20] <nickrud> everything worked for me on gutsy, first time since breezy
[06:20] <muaddib> Does anyone know if it is enabled in the linux-kernel-server
[06:20] <Spaceman3750> bazhang: My first message about being at 0% for a long time
[06:20] <joanki> spaceman, have you allowed thirdparty software upgrades?
[06:20] <bazhang> Spaceman3750: see no question above--usually indicated with a how do I..?
[06:20] <joanki> that is what i had to do to get my video card to work
[06:21] <krazytekn0> rkj you've enabled printer sharing in xp?
[06:21] <muaddib> Doesanyone know the penalty for moving from generic kernel to server. I am running a workstation class machine
[06:21] <Xplicit> astro76:  yeah and it just ignored it
[06:21] <rkj> krazytekn0: yep
[06:21] <rkj> krazytekn0: let me just go check on that ...
[06:22] <phosphoricx> nickrud: that doesn't seem to work, it only wants to look at the .h files in ./
[06:22] <astro76> Xplicit, and when you went in the windows installer, did you recognize that partition? it probably would say unformatted still
[06:22] <shm613> Does anyone know if there is a way to have windows default open to a certian workspace with compiz fusion running?
[06:22] <Xplicit> astro76:  there were no partitions that was the problem
[06:22] <Lapinux> anyone know if "ietab" is available for the linux version of firefox?
[06:22] <Spaceman3750> Gutsy has been making room for itself for a good while now, it's been at 0% the whole way.  What do I do? -- Basically how do I move this along without messing things up?
[06:23] <Lapinux> never mind, its not
[06:23] <bazhang> shm613: best ask that in #compiz-fusion; they are very helpful there :}
[06:23] <nickrud> phosphoricx, works here, been using it a long time.  For example, try grep -r panel ~/.gconfd
[06:23] <joanki> spaceman, are you reformatting your entire computer?]
[06:23] <joanki> or partitioning?
[06:23] <Spaceman3750> partitioning
[06:23] <nickrud> phosphoricx, erm, ~/.gconf that is
[06:23] <Spaceman3750> Erm, why is there a FloodBot2 in here?
[06:23] <joanki> and did you do a manual partition?
[06:23] <Spaceman3750> joanki: Guided
[06:23] <astro76> Xplicit, what version windows?
[06:23] <rkj> krazytekn0: duh ... next time remind me to turn it on too.
[06:23] <Spaceman3750> 40GB
[06:23] <soldats>  floodbot is god
[06:23] <joanki> ew i hated their guided partition
[06:23] <Xplicit> windows xp
[06:24] <joanki> i did m anual and imho i suggest you do the same
[06:24] <nickrud> Spaceman3750, because of silly children flooding the channel
[06:24] <Xplicit> astro76: i just got my answere in ##windows
[06:24] <joanki> is windows on your other partition?
[06:24] <phosphoricx> nickrud, ok I'm with you on that one, but then how do you filter it for only *.h ?
[06:25] <acc_> #Ubuntu: I'm attempting to install 7.10 on a laptop with Debian already installed on it (which has been working fine for about 2 years, so I know it's mostly Linux-compatible).  When the installer starts up, and I choose to install, it hangs on "Loading Linux Kernel."  How can I diagnose and fix this?  Thanks.
[06:25] <astro76> Xplicit, has to be first primary partition?
[06:26] <acc_> Ah, wait a few minutes, apparently. :)  It was stuck at 7% but just now it picked up and is on 52%
[06:26] <Xplicit> no without sp1 windows xp install cd cant handel drives bigger than 128
[06:26] <Spaceman3750> acc_: Gutsy uses Linux 2.6 which your Debian installation probably is not using, so it could be a kernel incompatibility with your laptop
[06:26] <acc_> Spaceman3750: Actually, the Debian partition has 2.6.22
[06:27] <Spaceman3750> acc_: Ah, nevermind then
[06:27] <SpeakerMania> I just installed Cinerella (Video Editor) but it doesn't open. I've tried going through Applications >> Sound and Video, ALT+F2, and the terminal, but none open it.
[06:27] <acc_> At any rate, it has loaded the kernel successfully now.  Thanks anyway.
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> wow... WINE crashes too much!!!
[06:27] <Xplicit> arg ive done 2 windows installs in 1 night i feal dirty
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> what's up with that ?
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> every since Fiesty
[06:28] <nickrud> phosphoricx, I know I've done this ...
[06:28] <Xplicit> CaptainMorgan: you using the latest version with the correct repos?
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> it's like, multitasking is illegal
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> Xplicit, AFAIK
[06:28] <bazhang> #winehq would have more on that CaptainMorgan
[06:28] <CaptainMorgan> Xplicit, I have all repos available
[06:28] <fajar> hallo
[06:28] <Xplicit> are you using the repos wine provide or the ubuntu version
[06:28] <SpeakerMania> CaptainMorgan, guess what? It is a Windows emulator. Windows has enough problems already running applications natively; is an emulator going to do any better?
[06:29] <pyrak> having trouble playing a dvd
[06:29] <unperson> I'm looking to get a new wireless NIC for one of my computers.  I'd like to find one that will work with linux drivers (i.e. won't require ndiswrapper).  So far, the only method I have to determine this is too look at a list of cards for sale and then google the model number of each one to find discussion of drivers for linux.  Is there a better way to go about this?
[06:29] <phosphoricx> nickrud, but there's nothing about .h in "grep -r panel ~/.gconfd", so where do you put it?
[06:29] <CaptainMorgan> SpeakerMania, that's not an explanation - Before 7.** wine worked fine - at least for me
[06:30] <nickrud> phoenixz, rereading man page, refreshing my elderly memory
[06:30] <SpeakerMania> CaptainMorgan, WINE has never worked properly for me. Might as well have a dual-boot with 2K. I still don't know why anyone would run a Windows app on a Linux box. :P
[06:30] <muaddib> How does one rebuild ubuntu kernel. There seems to be 2 methods the first is to either download via apt-get source linux-source-2.6.22 or get it from the git repository
[06:30] <muaddib> Which one
[06:30] <bruenig> muaddib, either
[06:31] <SpeakerMania> I just installed Cinerella (Video Editor) but it doesn't open. I've tried going through Applications >> Sound and Video, ALT+F2, and the terminal, but none open it.
[06:31] <soldats> !worksforme | CaptainMorgan
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[06:31] <bazhang> unperson: sadly that is probably the best way
[06:31] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, any output when trying via shell
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[06:31] <CaptainMorgan> SpeakerMania, true, my app is a game, for which rebooting into Win is kinda a waste of time.. when I run everything else on ubuntu
[06:31] <bruenig> !ops | GOP_Primaries
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[06:31] <soldats> CaptainMorgan, sorry, i feel the same as you as in wine always woprks for me but sometimes for some peple it doesnt
[06:31] <CaptainMorgan> soldats, you misinterpreted
[06:31] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: None. It says it isn't a recognized command. ?
[06:31] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[06:32] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, how did you install cinerella?
[06:32] <unperson> Wow, are they spamming all the IRC channels that way?
[06:32] <SpeakerMania> bruenig, through Synaptic.
[06:32] <Amaranth> yep
[06:32] <muaddib> bruenig: what is the difference... From what I can tell the documentation says the kernel-source package is older than the git repository and doesn't have latest patches is that correct
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> soldats, it's not a people issue, it's an OS version issue - before 7.04 or 7.10 wine worked fine
[06:32] <bruenig> !info cinerella
[06:32] <ubotu> Package cinerella does not exist in gutsy
[06:32] <nickrud> phoenixz, grep -r <string> --include=*.h <path>
[06:32] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, what is the exact name of the package
[06:32] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: That would be my issue.
[06:33] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: cinerella. ?
[06:33] <SpeakerMania> bruenig, hang on one second
[06:33] <soldats> CaptainMorgan, maybe i tried to scroll up but it doesnt go to far, strange wine "works for me" on 7.10
[06:33] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, if that is the name, then you didn't get it from the ubuntu repos
[06:33] <Xplicit> CaptainMorgan: try the latest version of wine, wine development is fast that patching it doesnt always work so well and the ubuntu version cant keep up with wine repos
[06:33] <SpeakerMania> bruenig, I had to add a repository
[06:33] <soldats> CaptainMorgan, oh well, i forgot what his problem was
[06:33] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, ok do: dpkg -L cinerella | grep bin
[06:34] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, technically this is unsupported being third party and all
[06:34] <CaptainMorgan> soldats, what? please - try making sense.
[06:34] <Saspo_> Hello everyone
[06:34] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: ease up a bit
[06:34] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: oh. I get this: Package `cinerella' is not installed.
[06:34] <SpeakerMania> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[06:34] <SpeakerMania> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[06:34] <Xplicit> hi dr Spaso_
[06:34] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, ease off a bit, I used "please"
[06:34] <nickrud> phosphoricx, grep -r --include=*.h <string> <path>
[06:34] <Xplicit> *Saspo
[06:35] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, so you are confused somewhere, either you didn't install it, or it has a different name
[06:35] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: I used 'a bit'
[06:35] <SingAlong> Hi guys...
[06:35] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, truthfully, I couldn't make sense of that last few comments he made
[06:35] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: hmm. How? I installed via Synaptic following the Gutsy instructions (I am indeed running Gutsy).
[06:35] <bruenig> SpeakerMania, you saw the message, it isn't installed
[06:36] <Sneaks> I am looking for some help on a tri-boot of XP, 6.06 and 7.10.  I had 6.06 and XP working fine.  I set up a new partition for 7.10 and installed it.  All went well.  I can still boot 6.06 and XP but 7.10 hasn't been added to my Grub options and I don't know how to get it there?
[06:36] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: wine is not for this channel go to #winehq as I said earlier
[06:36] <Modius> Anyone here familiar with Ubuntu 64 bit?  Questions.  A:  Should I expect it to work with an Intel Quad-core with 8gig of ram, and B: Can it run windows sessions in vmware?
[06:36] <soldats> CaptainMorgan, no i meant wine still works on 7.10 but i totally forgot what the inital question of the other person was. i started typing too fast without thinking. sorry if pissed you off. my stupid rapid thinking gets the better of me sometimes.
[06:36] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: Okay. Thanks.
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, already did, long time ago - but people still want to call my name
[06:36] <nickrud> Sneaks, what partition is your 7.10 on, and can you edit the menu.lst in 6.06 (I'm assuming that's the menu.lst in use)
[06:36] <Scunizi> Sneaks: do you hv more than one HD?
[06:36] <iamlindoro_> Hi all, setting up software raid on Gutsy... Just a quick question with some experience with with... as all array members are USB drives, I have set udev rules so that everything gets symlinked to the same /dev/sd* nodes... However, I noticed in creating the array that even though I provided it with the symlinked nodes, it shows the *actual* devices on mdadm --detail... question is, I added the symlinked nodes to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.c
[06:36] <soldats> CaptainMorgan, sop i applogize
[06:37] <SingAlong> I just am a first timer on linux. I just installed Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn. I tried to connect to the internet thru a wired connection. Its a DHCP connection. Ubuntu recognised the connection. But when I try to browse thru mozilla firefox. I am able to connect to no website.
[06:37] <Sneaks> nickrud.  I can edit menu list.  /sda1 is XP /sda2 is 6.06 and /sda3 is 7.10 /sda4 is swap
[06:37] <Xplicit> how do i install my system to an lvm partition
[06:37] <bruenig> SingAlong,  ping google.com in terminal
[06:38] <SingAlong> K...
[06:38] <Scunizi> Sneaks: sounds like grub got installed on the wrong hd.
[06:38] <SingAlong> Will try and get back..
[06:38] <Sneaks> I have had grub for a while and it boots XP and 6.06 fine. I just can't get it to boot 7.10?
[06:38] <astro76> Xplicit, using the alternate install cd
[06:39] <Saspo_> *Xplicit -  My first time on IRC thanks for the welcome
[06:39] <soldats> !dualboot > Sneaks
[06:39] <Scunizi> Sneaks: thats because 7.10 put its grub probably at the beginning of the drive its installed on.  If you change your bios to boot from that drive you might get all the op systems to show in the grub menu.  At least that would be an easy test.
[06:39] <Xplicit> does it popup an option or do i need to enter some cheat code?
[06:40] <nickrud> Sneaks, add http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49768/ to the very bottom of menu.lst , it should boot
[06:40] <Xplicit> nvm i got to options
[06:40] <alecw1> Is there a standalone flash viewer for the GNOME desktop (and Ubuntu)?
[06:40] <astro76> Xplicit, dunno really... cheat codes meaning boot option? probably not
[06:41] <Saspo_> I am trying to find out how to disable the integrated video to install a graphics card.  Any help anyone?
[06:41] <nickrud> Sneaks, your swap would be defined in the /etc/fstab in 7.10, you might want to check
[06:41] <soldats> alecw1, totem can play flash, if you download the flash video you can view it via totem
[06:41] <alecw1> soldats: I mean .swf files
[06:41] <Scunizi> Sneaks: although nickrud offers a good solution, if the kernel is updated in the future it won't show.  You need a more perminant solution.
[06:41] <MYRM1D0N> hello there.....
[06:41] <Sneaks> Thanks for the help guys Phosphoricx is helping me on a private chat
[06:42] <nickrud> Scunizi, yes, it'll be below the automagic section
[06:42] <nickrud> Scunizi, and untouched by update-grub
[06:42] <soldats> alecw1, dont think so unless you can get flash mx working but a flash .flv will play
[06:42] <alecw1> soldats: Ok, thank you.
[06:42] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: I foudn the issue
[06:42] <SpeakerMania> found
[06:42] <nickrud> Scunizi, oh, brain fart here. There might someday be a -15
[06:43] <Scunizi> nickrud: yep.. I triple boot as well.. although I haven't gone into 6.06 in some time.. looking forward to LTS
[06:43] <iamlindoro_> alecw1: look at the flashplayer9 included in automatix
[06:43] <iamlindoro_> if there's any command line utility for it, it's likely to be there
[06:43] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: the name is cinelerra
[06:43] <Filled-Void> Could anyone tell me how I can rename hdb1 (the icon on my desktop) to something else if that is possible
[06:43] <bruenig> k
[06:43] <astro76> !automatix | iamlindoro_
[06:43] <ubotu> iamlindoro_: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:43] <soldats> !automatix > iamlindoro_
[06:43] <Saspo_> I am trying to find out how to disable the integrated video to install a graphics card.  Any help anyone?
[06:43] <alecw1> iamlindoro_: I've been advised to stay away from automatix, even though I don't know what it is. =P
[06:43] <SpeakerMania> bruenig: and I get this via terminal: cinelerra: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:43] <bruenig> !find libGL.so.1.2
[06:44] <ubotu> Package/file libgl.so.1.2 does not exist in gutsy
[06:44] <Scunizi> Saspo_: plug in the new card and run with it.... sometimes the bios has an "off" switch for the onboard card.
[06:44] <nickrud> Sneaks, after you get 7.10 running, you might want to run  sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda to have 7.10 manage grub, it's better at seeing other os's and adding them to menu.lst properly
[06:44] <bullgard4> Is there a OpenOffice.org IRC channel?
[06:44] <keith-> is there any fix for getting network-manager to connect to a wep protected network?
[06:45] <iamlindoro_> alecw1: Yeah, blah blah, install it however you like, but look at the closed-source flash player from macromedia all the same
[06:45] <Saspo_> scuzini I did plug  the card in but the sytem froze on start up.
[06:45] <lukewarm> bullgard4 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC
[06:46] <alecw1> iamlindoro_: will do. Thanks very much!
[06:46] <_-laughing-_> anyone know of some good kde themes, looking for icon sets, logins, etc
[06:46] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: Oh hey, thanks for all your help earlier!
[06:46] <bullgard4> lukewarm: Thank you very much.
[06:47] <lukewarm> bullgard4 dont thank me, thank google
[06:47] <adamonline46> sunogbaga: I got distracted trying to figure it out... Still no luck tho :/
[06:47] <sobersabre> hi.
[06:47] <sobersabre> I have 3 breezy nodes.
[06:47] <sobersabre> I would like to dist-upgrade them to the latest stable, e.g. gutsy
[06:48] <sobersabre> is it possible to do directly ?
[06:48] <Filled-Void> Is it possible to rename my hard disk label?
[06:48] <Flannel> sobersabre: You can't upgrade straight from breezy to gutsy.  No, you'll have to do it one at a time, however....
[06:48] <sobersabre> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade...
[06:48] <sobersabre> Flannel, I have no X on it.
[06:48] <Flannel> sobersabre: you will be able to upgrade straight from dapper to hardy, once its released.  So you might want to go from breezy to dapper, and then wait for a few months
[06:48] <sobersabre> just worker node.
[06:48] <Flannel> sobersabre: that doesn't matter.
[06:49] <sobersabre> So, the fastest would be to go and install gusty directly ... ?
[06:49] <sobersabre> s/gust/guts/
[06:49] <nickrud> sobersabre, same one from 2005 ?
[06:49] <Flannel> sobersabre: yeah.  If you really want gutsy.  Of course, re-configuration may or may not be more time
[06:49] <sobersabre> Flannel, I am deploying FAI.,
[06:50] <sobersabre> just didn't want to multiply the size of the mirror.
[06:50] <Flannel> sobersabre: You can use apt-proxy
[06:50] <xal2> hi
[06:51] <xal2> are there any good download\upload monitors for linux?
[06:51] <bruenig> xal2, what exactly are you looking for, something that gives you a nice loggable output, or some pretty widget
[06:51] <mapez> anyone here use CWiiD?
[06:51] <Xplicit> mapez ive set it up
[06:51] <xal2> something that gives me a loggable output
[06:52] <xal2> I dont' care about a frontend
[06:52] <SingAlong_> I am not able to connect to the internet even though  ubuntu recognises my connection
[06:52] <kevin_> i'm having a problem playing a certain (commercial) dvd, details here: http://pastebin.ca/834466 , any help?
[06:53] <bazhang> !dvd | kevin_
[06:53] <ubotu> kevin_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:53] <_-laughing-_> so... does anyone know of a good kde theme or what?
[06:53] <acc_> #Ubuntu: So I'm trying to install 7.10 on a laptop, and no matter whether I choose "Start or install Ubuntu" or "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode", the kernel takes about 10 minutes to load, then the HDD LED gets pegged (flickering occasionally), then the system reboots.  How can I diagnose what is happening?
[06:53] <SingAlong2> anyone help me..
[06:53] <kevin_> bazhang, it works for other encrypted dvds
[06:53] <bnb> how do i install beryl window manager on ubuntu gusty  i tried searching for it in synaptic could not find it
[06:54] <nickrud> kevin_, have you tried another player, I've seen some read disks others wouldn't
[06:54] <lukewarm> !beryl > bnb
[06:54] <ubuntu> lol
[06:54] <bazhang> acc_: considered the minimal install or the alternate install? those often work when the live cd chokes
[06:54] <bnb> i want to unleash the full power of my ati radeon x1300
[06:54] <nickrud> !compiz | bnb
[06:54] <ubotu> bnb: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[06:54] <bnb> pci-e
[06:55] <kevin_> nickrud, only totem and mplayer
[06:55] <bullgard4> lukewarm: What catchwords did you feed Google with?
[06:55] <acc_> bazhang: Thanks, I'll give them a shot
[06:55] <SingAlong2> How can I connect tonickrud: help me friend...
[06:55] <nickrud> kevin_, give vlc a try, it's been best so far for me
[06:55] <bazhang> kevin_: how about the tried and true vlc?
[06:55] <SingAlong2> nickrud: help me friend
[06:55] <nickrud> SingAlong, what kind of internet. wireless, me? hah
[06:55] <kevin_> trying..
[06:55] <bazhang> !minimal | acc_
[06:55] <ubotu> acc_: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:55] <SingAlong2> nickrud: wired
[06:55] <lukewarm> bullgard4 openoffice irc channel
[06:55] <SingAlong2> nickrud: wired dhcp
[06:56] <nickrud> SingAlong, works with windows?
[06:56] <SingAlong2> nickrud: yeah
[06:56] <bullgard4> lukewarm: Ok, thank you.
[06:56] <SingAlong2> nickrud: I am chatting with you on a windows comp. I installed ubuntu on my laptop
[06:56] <mapez> Xplicit, Sorry. Have you remapped the buttons?
[06:56] <mapez> I am trying to make it work with GFCE Ultra
[06:56] <SingAlong2> nickrud: I tried pinging google.com. It said: Unknown host google.com
[06:57] <nickrud> SingAlong, in a terminal, what does     route -n    say after you try sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[06:57] <phalacee> I'd like to install the Linux mint (and/or the Ubuntu Studio) theme on my vanilla ubuntu install, can some one point me in the right direction, google doesn't love me today
[06:57] <SingAlong2> I am a firsttimer. so I did not open the terminal
[06:57] <Xplicit> no i had proplems because i couldnt find the config file and my brother whos wii it is got boored
[06:57] <kevin_> error with vlc: http://pastebin.ca/834470
[06:57] <SingAlong2> nickrud: I only ran one command in the terminal: ping google.com
[06:57] <Xplicit> why is LVM changing 7GB to 7.5GB?
[06:58] <SingAlong2> nickrud: any solution?
[06:58] <function1> is there any way to change these uuuuuugly old X widgets/controls?
[06:58] <mapez> Ah okay. I have got it communicating with my computer.. I just can't figure out how to remap buttons
[06:58] <nickrud> SingAlong, possibly. Put the output of:     ifconfig      and    route -n     on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Xplicit: I believe it has something to do with needing a certain multiple of disk sections, or some such.  I've seen that sort of thing before too.
[06:59] <SingAlong2> nickrud: ifconfig or ipconfig?
[06:59] <kevin_> nickrud, bazhang ^ ?
[06:59] <nickrud> SingAlong, ifconfig
[06:59] <SingAlong2> ok...
[06:59] <bazhang> kevin_: does the dvd work in a dvd player (next to a tv for example)?
[06:59] <SingAlong2> Now I need to paste the output of ifconfig and route -n on paste.ubuntu.nl right?
[07:00] <Nostahl> ok software updates finnaly finnished!
[07:00] <SingAlong2> nick?
[07:00] <SingAlong2> right nick?
[07:00] <Nostahl> bazhang u still around
[07:00] <SingAlong2> Now I need to paste the output of ifconfig and route -n on paste.ubuntu.nl right? nick?
[07:00] <nickrud> SingAlong, yes. and patience :)
[07:00] <SingAlong2> sorry :)
[07:00] <bazhang> Nostahl: indeed!
[07:00] <Nostahl> hehe
[07:00] <Nostahl> can you beleive how long that took?
[07:00] <SingAlong2> nickrud: I will get back. I am disconnecting my comp and connecting my laptop to the net :)
[07:00] <nickrud> SingAlong, ok
[07:01] <bazhang> less than 2 hours I believe
[07:01] <sobersabre> Flannel, I am using apt-proxy, but it still will require a big part of disk.
[07:01] <jstarcher> how can I mount my cdrom?
[07:01] <Nostahl> bazhang 0846;4260 netgear, inc
[07:01] <simplyubuntu> hello all :) does anyone here have free time and want to get in on developing a distro - based on ubuntu?
[07:02] <Sneaks> exit
[07:03] <kevin_> bazhang, yes
[07:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=615471 this the card Nostahl? there is a way to get it going apparently (and recent)
[07:05] <xal2> I installed the graphics driver from the nvidia website. It works great until I restart the computer. Then it wants to hop into low graphics mode.
[07:05] <Xplicit> the alt cd lets me setup a raid partition but not use it
[07:05] <xal2> nm
[07:05] <xal2> I'll ask in the nvidia channel
[07:06] <xal2> didn't realize there was one :p
[07:06] <Nostahl> i usualy just use ndiswrapper to get it up and going
[07:06] <Nostahl> but i was just wondering if there was a native driver so i didnt have to ndiswrapper it
[07:06] <SingAlong3> nick... I think I found out the problem. I know the windows commands: ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew. Can u tell me the alternatives for this in ubuntu?
[07:06] <bazhang> kevin_: when you put the dvd in the drive, does it prompt you with some options? like play in totem etc? what does totem say when it refuses to run it if anything
[07:06] <phalacee> I'd like to install the Linux mint (and/or the Ubuntu Studio) theme on my vanilla ubuntu install, can some one point me in the right direction, google doesn't love me today
[07:06] <Arelis> Hi all. After installing fglrx, my screen looks very blurry. How can i solve this?
[07:07] <Nasari> Hey, unbuntu locks all ports right?
[07:07] <bazhang> Nostahl: it appears not sorry about that
[07:07] <kevin_> bazhang, "an error occured/could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."
[07:07] <SingAlong3> nick: I asked you this becoz... I know that my IP keeps fluctuating everytime I connect. sometimes its 123.101.100.34 and sometimes something else...
[07:07] <astro76> Nasari, there's no servers installed by default which are listening on any ports, so yes
[07:07] <jimmy__> i comment out xinerama in my xorg.conf and it keeps coming back... wtf?
[07:07] <SingAlong3> nickrud: nick... I think I found out the problem. I know the windows commands: ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew. Can u tell me the alternatives for this in ubuntu?
[07:07] <bazhang> Nasari: you can install firestarter and tweak iptables if you wish
[07:08] <SingAlong3> anyone knows the alternatives for ipconfig /renew and ipconfig /release in ubuntu?
[07:08] <nickrud> SingAlong, depends on how you've configured the interface, I only know a couple of ways
[07:08] <bazhang> kevin_: and all other dvds work? is this a bluray or hd-dvd?
[07:09] <SingAlong3> nick but how?
[07:09] <jstarcher> how can I mount my cdrom?
[07:09] <Nasari> ok, thanks
[07:09] <kevin_> bazhang, all that I have tried before work. this is a proper dvd
[07:09] <SingAlong3> what 2 ways are they?
[07:09] <kevin_> ..in the physical sense
[07:09] <nickrud> SingAlong2, it's normal to have different ip's with dhcp, it's supposed to work that way. So, what's the output of    route -n  ?   That's most likely the problem
[07:09] <bazhang> kevin_: that is exceedingly odd..
[07:09] <|juan|> any reason my xorg.conf would revert back to xinerama every time i restart xserver?
[07:10] <nickrud> SingAlong2, the computer doesn't know what your router's address is most likely
[07:10] <astro76> kevin_, what title if you don't mind?
[07:10] <kevin_> astro76, rush hour 3
[07:10] <SingAlong3> ???
[07:10] <SingAlong3> what is that? how can I get that?
[07:10] <bazhang> kevin_: that is on dvd already?
[07:10] <kevin_> bazhang, apparently
[07:10] <nickrud> SingAlong2, if you'd answer my questions, I can help you build a working config
[07:11] <SingAlong3> Ok one sec..
[07:11] <SingAlong3> let me find out
[07:11] <SingAlong3> ...
[07:11] <Nasari> so firestarter is the easiest way to open and close ports?
[07:11] <astro76> kevin_, as I suspected, it uses the new form of copy protection http://www.dvdshrink.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=21520
[07:11] <nickrud> SingAlong2, use a usb stick if you have one to save the outputs (you can cut and paste into gedit to save them)
[07:11] <bazhang> kevin_: that is standard bluray or hd-dvd?
[07:11] <astro76> kevin_, take it back to the store and say it's a non-standard dvd ;)
[07:12] <bazhang> kevin_: yeah, astro76 has it on the head
[07:12] <kevin_> astro76, if an old set-top dvd player can  play it, a computer should be able to manage :)
[07:12] <bazhang> kevin_: google drm
[07:13] <astro76> kevin_, the whole point of this type of copy protection is that it still works on non-pc dvd players
[07:13] <kevin_> astro76, and, why?
[07:13] <astro76> kevin_, they tried this with CDs too
[07:13] <astro76> kevin_, piracy :S
[07:13] <nickrud> so there might be a 1.3 release of dvdcss, whoopee
[07:13] <kevin_> no, I mean why does it still work on non-pc players
[07:13] <kevin_> with cds they just did autorun crap
[07:14] <Xplicit> the alt cd is having problems with formating my boot partition
[07:14] <bazhang> kevin_: to prevent teh piratez
[07:14] <nickrud> kevin_, because the rippers have to reverse engineer each wrinkle, the dvd makers know in advance what they can get away with
[07:14] <kevin_> no, I mean why would it still work in the technical sense on a player that was designed for the original dvd specification
[07:14] <astro76> kevin_, usually some non-standard file naming or some sort of thing which the player ignores, but chokes the pc
[07:15] <bazhang> kevin_: you can return it or wait for a 'fix' :}
[07:15] <xal2> I installed the graphics driver from the nvidia website. It works great until I restart the computer. Then it wants to hop into low graphics mode.
[07:16] <Jangari> is there a forum/howto on widgets/screenlets?
[07:16] <iknowbob> sorry to break in, but i have a question if anyone can help.  trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and keep getting an error message stating "failed to fetch" and then lists 3 archives at archive.ubuntostudio.org ...
[07:16] <kevin_> most of the information on google is for windos ripping applications
[07:16] <bazhang> iknowbob: for ubuntustudio? might be a server issue
[07:18]  * Gnea bangs head on desk, repeatedly.
[07:18] <iknowbob> just using plain ubuntu.  friend installed some visiuals and added the ubuntustudio archives to update them with.  is there any way to remove the archive.ubuntustudio.org lines from the list of archives for upgrading?
[07:18] <Gnea> why does java not work in gutsy gibbon?!
[07:18] <Gnea> i'm trying to use java as a plugin to firefox
[07:18] <nickrud> it does, install sun-java6-plugin
[07:18] <bazhang> iknowbob: sure; go into synaptic and disable them
[07:18] <digga> list
[07:18] <digga> oopd
[07:18] <Xplicit> Gnea: firefox from repos?
[07:19] <kevin_> bazhang, I have to return it anyway I think. do you know how to get a raw dump of the disc and work out the proper file format later?
[07:19] <Gnea> i've tried sun-java6-plugin,  sun-java5-plugin and now icedtea-java7-plugin
[07:19] <Gnea> Xplicit: yes, everything is from apt-get/synaptic
[07:19] <Gnea> i check in about:plugins and i see that it's there
[07:20] <bazhang> kevin_: for now it is safe from that kind of thing, not really the channel to discuss it in
[07:20] <Gnea> and yet... it simply does not work when i try to bring up a java-based app in firefox
[07:20] <kevin_> bazhang, what would be
[07:20] <Gnea> i get the error: "please install java, you are moron."
[07:20] <nickrud> oh, it must be tired of you ;)
[07:21] <Gnea> well, it better change its attitude quick if it wants to live through the night ;)
[07:21] <iknowbob> i'm a bit of a noob to ubuntu.  how do i go about disabling them?
[07:21] <nickrud> Gnea, a really silly question, but do you have java enabled in the prefs?
[07:21] <bazhang> kevin_: that is a 'rip' and there is google for that
[07:21] <Gnea> nickrud: ha, i hadn't checked yet - doing now
[07:22] <kevin_> bazhang, I don't want to resort to windows shareware, which is the result on google
[07:22] <bazhang> kevin_: sorry cant help you
[07:23] <kevin__> hay room
[07:23] <kevin__> im a nood
[07:23] <Gnea> room: no such nickname
[07:23] <kevin__> i wanna put ubuntu on my g3
[07:23] <Gnea> nickrud: yup, it's already checked
[07:24] <nickrud> thought it was silly
[07:24] <Gnea> not at all, good to cover all bases
[07:24] <kevin__> anay one try this is it better then darwin for this sitch
[07:24] <kevin__> http://spiderman.is-a-geek.com/
[07:24] <astro76> good grief, a kevin_ and kevin__ both talking
[07:24] <nickrud> SingAlong better come back soon, gotta get some sleep
[07:24] <Kevin`> heh :)
[07:25] <nickrud> lol
[07:25]  * astro76 runs
[07:25] <Gnea> !mac
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Gnea> !g4
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Gnea> !g3
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <nickrud> !ppc
[07:25] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[07:26] <kevin__> thank you
[07:27] <kevin__> osx 1.1 is really showing it's age
[07:27] <nickrud> isn't that heresy for someone with mac hardware?
[07:27] <sobersabre> guys, I've got rdist question. is it possible to rename files per group of hosts with rdist ?
[07:27] <kevin__> game cube has a ppc right
[07:27] <sobersabre> I mean if I have a file /some/where/etc/passwd/group0
[07:28] <sobersabre> would I be able to copy it to a group of hosts to /etc/passwd ?
[07:28] <sobersabre> just say "yes" or "no".
[07:28] <nickrud> maybe
[07:28] <ogre> ahahahahhah
[07:28] <sobersabre> lol
[07:28] <bazhang> yes or no
[07:28] <bharadwaj> whenever i start off with enemy teritory or any other high end games the game interface is very sluggish and strucky
[07:28] <nickrud> I have a broken nose, cuz I do that too much
[07:29] <bharadwaj> do i have any problem with my graphics card?
[07:29] <sobersabre> bazhang, you should upgrade your interpreter
[07:29] <bazhang> sobersabre: hahha
[07:29] <kevin__> imbios lol
[07:29] <richd> Hello, anyone ever tried playing UT2k4 and got no sound? my only sound card in the setting is openal. should i go get also instead or something?
[07:29] <xal2> Has anyone had problems with the nvidia driver?
[07:29] <bazhang> !info kiten
[07:29] <ubotu> kiten: Japanese reference/study tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 197 kB, installed size 548 kB
[07:29] <richd> er, not sound card, sound device or something
[07:29] <sobersabre> your nick sounds a bit chinese.... chinese usually have a good interpreter. where are you from ?
[07:29] <sobersabre> :)
[07:30] <Gnea> argh
[07:30] <bazhang> I'm from #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <Gnea> nickrud: this is driving me nuts! i've done this before on other systems, and yet, i cannot get java to work in a web browser on this newly installed system.
[07:31] <bharadwaj> is there any other channel for my problem with games?
[07:31] <nickrud> I gotta go, Singalong will be back (maybe) with an ifconfig and route -n . His windows connects wired, ubuntu doesn't. Probably not getting gateway info from the router. Could someone set him up with a static config?
[07:31] <astro76> Gnea, did you try with a new firefox profile?
[07:31] <kevin__> i allwas had promblems install ati drivers on ubuntu on my core2dou pc
[07:31] <richd> bharadwaj: heym your having trouble too?
[07:31] <brophat> my add/remove applications thing says BitTorrent is installed but I can't find it in the applications menu
[07:31] <nickrud> Gnea, I've always had no problems with java, so never had to trouble shoot it
[07:32] <Gnea> astro76: hrm, i'll try that now
[07:32] <richd> bharadwaj: I cant get my sound to work in Unreal 2004... what's your gaming prob?
[07:32] <alexandroid> hi, could you plz tell me how to enter rescue mode using live DVD for 7.10?
[07:32] <alexandroid> what i see is the same as described on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202184
[07:32] <bharadwaj> richd: oh yeah but i have a problem with my graphics and  interface of the game its very sluggish
[07:33] <richd> bharadwaj: what card type do you have?
[07:33] <richd> ati? nv?
[07:33] <WGGMk> is it possible to Remote Desktop to a NON GUI Ubuntu Server???
[07:33] <astro76> alexandroid, what are you trying to do?
[07:33] <bharadwaj> richd: non in particular i have an inbuilt 64Mb video memory of i845G series
[07:34] <Kevin`> WGGMk, yes
[07:34] <richd> bharadwaj: ouch, integrated is hard stuff
[07:34] <Kevin`> WGGMk, you will of course need gui programs and libraries installed on it, which I would not do for a server
[07:34] <bharadwaj> rich: yeah i know i tried evry damn shit available in the internet and in the forums
[07:35] <alexandroid> astro76: I am trying to install ubuntu on usb ext drive following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811
[07:35] <wy> Which script is run before the window system starts after user login? I'm trying to put an environment variable in that can be viewed by the programs on the main menu
[07:35] <bharadwaj> richd: and know what i almost come here very often with only this problem
[07:36] <bharadwaj> richd: did you try ubuntu forums?
[07:36] <brophat> my add/remove applications thing has BitTorrent checked, which I assume means it is installed, but I can't find it in the applications menu. Anyone know where it is supposed to be?
[07:36] <astro76> alexandroid, looks like you need to use the alternate cd
[07:36] <astro76> !alternate | alexandroid
[07:36] <ubotu> alexandroid: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:36] <richd> bharadwaj: man, i try ubuntu forums, debian forums, new articles and /. forums
[07:36] <richd> but to no avail
[07:37] <alexandroid> astro76: but live DVD should include both install + alternate cds, right?
[07:37] <WGGMk> Kevin`: is it possible for clients to remote desktop into a virtual machine (while the server still has NO GUI)???
[07:37] <alexandroid> astro76: ...and I do not have CD-R to burn CD ISO on =\
[07:37] <bazhang> richd: is this native linux or through wine?
[07:38] <richd> bazhang: native. used the dvd shell installer
[07:38] <Kevin`> WGGMk, no local gui, yes
[07:39] <bharadwaj> richd: i hope we get a solution very fast i just can't wait to play any full fledged game in lunux
[07:39] <bharadwaj> *linux
[07:39] <frederick85> hi i'm on xubuntu and trying to mount windows shares with pyNeighborhood it says can't mount the files on it though
[07:39] <astro76> alexandroid, yeah it does... sorry I'm not familiar with the dvd
[07:39] <frederick85> the shared files on the windows computer
[07:39] <frederick85> but it can find them
[07:39] <bazhang> richd: unreal tournament 3? or other
[07:39] <Kevin`> WGGMk, virtual machine means nothing to this, unless you use the vm software for remote control in some respect (which I would only do for admins)
[07:40] <richd> bazhang: 2004
[07:40] <richd> only have a 32 MB video card...
[07:40] <bazhang> richd: tournament?
[07:40] <richd> yeah
[07:41] <alexandroid> astro76: maybe you could describe me what rescue mode looks like? when "rescue mode" sign actually appears?
[07:41] <Gnea> astro76: same problem persists with the new profile
[07:41] <Gnea> astro76: i went through and made sure that just the icedtea version is the only one installed now
[07:41] <Gnea> then i made the new profile
[07:41] <WGGMk> Kevin`: what im trying to achieve, is the ability for specific clients to be able to USE/RUN virtual machines across a VPN or locally.. remote desktop seems like the only logical solution for the VPN side
[07:41] <Kevin`> WGGMk, remote desktops don't need to use the physical display for anything, you can have any number of remote displays without showing them locally
[07:41] <abhi> is there any nice util that i can use to grab a website?
[07:42] <Gnea> abhi: wget, curl
[07:42] <Kevin`> WGGMk, what vm software are you using
[07:42] <richd> bharadwaj: hey, check out http://packages.debian.org/etch/xserver-xorg-video-i810
[07:42] <astro76> alexandroid, you type rescue at the grub prompt on the alternate cd
[07:42] <richd> it has a package that should do it
[07:42] <richd> maybe
[07:42] <richd> have you already done something like that?
[07:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237046 richd look at post #6 in that thread
[07:42] <abhi> Gnea: i want to get not just the page but also the links it points to
[07:43] <richd> k
[07:43] <WGGMk> Kevin`: right now im just in the planning process. But specifically vmware server or esx caught my attention
[07:43] <alexandroid> astro76: but i mean does it look like regular installer in the beginning or it is completely different?
[07:43] <Gnea> abhi: read the manpages, they explain what all of the options do
[07:43] <richd> bazhang: will try that
[07:43] <WGGMk> Kevin`: my server has NO GUI, and honestly I have no intention or desire to install a GUI or any related GUI libraries
[07:44] <Kevin`> WGGMk, vmware server (and I think esx if you like spending money) already include remote console function
[07:44] <j2daosh> what does a b mean in an ls -ltr? (br--r-----)
[07:44] <richd> bharadwaj: does that package look like it might work?
[07:44] <Xplicit> does the alt install cd need a working internet conection?
[07:44] <Gnea> WGGMk: my server has no gui either, but i can run a vpn tunnel and export the display over that to run X apps remotely :)
[07:44] <Kevin`> WGGMk, if you want to run gui applications on the server (remote or otherwise) you need them to be installed, and for their supporting libraries to be installed, doesn't matter where they display
[07:44] <X-nor> anyone know why xubuntu has xclient script as the primary option in GDM, yet there appears no xclient in /etc/X11, etc?
[07:45] <astro76> alexandroid, it will boot you to a prompt with Rescue Mode at the top
[07:45] <BlaenkDenum> is there a way to generate an md5sum of all files in a directory?
[07:45] <Kevin`> md5um *
[07:45] <Gnea> WGGMk: he's right, you can have x libs installed and not run a GUI - you just need them on the server to support displaying them elsewhere - it's not much of a performance hit at all
[07:45] <BlaenkDenum> I didn't see anything on that in the man page but I used to do it
[07:45] <BlaenkDenum> oh thanks Kevin`
[07:45] <alexandroid> astro76: ic, thanks!
[07:45] <WGGMk> Kevin`: maybe you misunderstood. I dont want them to be able to remote desktop into the server. I want clients to be able to remote desktop into the virtual guest on the server
[07:46] <astro76> alexandroid, just a shell prompt on virtual console 1
[07:46] <X-nor> i recall switching xfwm4 to compiz but now I can't figure out what the heck I changed
[07:46] <ogre> i want a pony
[07:46] <Kevin`> WGGMk, then you either need remote desktop support in the vm software or remote desktop server software installed on each vm
[07:46] <X-nor> works, but I also need to change some other stuff
[07:46] <WGGMk> Kevin`: i retract the misunderstanding part, I prolly didnt explain things specifically enough.
[07:46] <Gnea> WGGMk: make sure the IP of the virtual server is accessible from the outside and set your security options within that environment properly to accept them
[07:47] <Gnea> anyways
[07:47] <Gnea> java still isn't working.
[07:47] <bharadwaj> richd: idin get you
[07:47] <Xplicit> does the alt install cd need a working internet conection?
[07:47] <WGGMk> Kevin`: you wouldnt happen to know if the VMWare Server or esx have remote desktop support do you?
[07:47] <richd> bharadwaj: ?
[07:48] <richd> did you get my link?
[07:48] <X-nor> Xplicit: no, I installed it fine with no network until I could build my driver
[07:48] <richd> http://packages.debian.org/etch/xserver-xorg-video-i810
[07:48] <richd> you can search for that package in your package manager and it might fix your prob
[07:48] <bazhang> that is a debian source richd; best to go with one from packages.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <wy> I wish I could draw a picture in the code
[07:49] <Kevin`> WGGMk, the vmware server console is natively networked and can be used remotely. I haven't used esx as I can't afford it. vmware workstation has vnc server support but probably is not a good choice for a server,
[07:49] <Xplicit> ok thx i tought it was stuck at 6% but its jumped to 21%
[07:49] <richd> bazhang: i agree, but that package should be in ubuntu
[07:49] <X-nor> Xplicit: but you'll have to use apt-cd to get build-essential and all
[07:49] <Kevin`> WGGMk, qemu has vnc server support, xen I don't know, virtualbox I don't know
[07:49] <bharadwaj> richd: you playin it in wine?
[07:49] <richd> i just found it on the deb package search
[07:49] <richd> bharadwaj: nah. I figured mine out
[07:49] <richd> trying to hepl you now
[07:49] <Xplicit> its ok once its up ill switch my cable over to it
[07:49] <bazhang> richd: that may break his system--best not to advise it
[07:50] <richd> bazhang: i want him to use the ubuntu package manager to search for that package
[07:50] <Spaceman3750> I have ndiswrapper installed.  I installed the correct driver for my wireless card into ndiswrapper.  However, the GUI I installed says that the card for the driver I installed doesn't exist.  Any advice?
[07:50] <WGGMk> Kevin`: so VMWare Server would install on the physical server and can be managed by a web interface correct (because the server has no GUI)
[07:50] <j2daosh> is there a sco unix channel?
[07:50] <richd> then install it and edit the xorg conf file
[07:50] <bharadwaj> richd: the link you gave me it s i810 drivers but i845 is different from it
[07:50] <bazhang> richd: it is in the repos for ubuntu
[07:51] <richd> i810g driver if for that whole family
[07:51] <bazhang> bharadwaj: it applies to your card as well
[07:51] <richd> bazhang: good.
[07:51] <bharadwaj> let me try
[07:52] <bazhang> !info xserver-xorg-video-i810
[07:52] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-i810: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.7.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 139 kB, installed size 364 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[07:52] <X-nor> j2daosh: you mean there's a reason to run that anymore?
[07:52] <bazhang> bharadwaj: see above
[07:52] <richd> bharadwaj: do you know where to get that?
[07:52] <richd> sorry, but i don't know your linux exp...
[07:52] <X-nor> does anyone know how to set up what window manager is started up, etc?
[07:52] <Kevin`> WGGMk, http://abacus.kwzs.be/vm.jpg - using a vm from a few states away
[07:53] <bazhang> X-nor: choose in sessions at log in screen
[07:53] <richd> or edit your init runlevel thingy to use kdm instead of gdm or w/e
[07:53] <X-nor> bazhang: yeah, was wondering what Xclient session meant
[07:54] <morst> im trying to ./configure apache, and i get the message "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:54] <X-nor> bazhang: it's the 'default' in xfce, but the reported xclient configuration does not exist anywhere
[07:54] <bazhang> X-nor: there should be a small icon in the log in screen that you can pull down
[07:54] <WGGMk> Kevin`: VMWare Server Console is what exactly?
[07:54] <richd> bharadwaj: any luck yet?
[07:54] <X-nor> bazhang: well I can't edit that can I
[07:55] <bazhang> X-nor: you can install new DE's :}
[07:55] <Kevin`> WGGMk, the program you use to do most of the work with vmware server
[07:55] <BlaenkDenum> guys I have a question, if I tar.gz. something and md5sum it will it always be the same, I mean, and if I would tar.gz. the very same contents again and md5sum that, will it be the same? I know it's not the case with zip
[07:55] <X-nor> bazhang: that's no help wse, I need to know what each of those Exec=
[07:55] <richd> X-nor: i use ksysv-init editor
[07:55] <adamonline46> Does anyone know why I might not be able to access my SMB shares from my Kubuntu box?
[07:55] <bazhang> X-nor: via the cli?
[07:55] <X-nor> richd: um, that's init scripts afaict
[07:55] <richd> yeah
[07:55] <X-nor> bazhang: well, by filename
[07:56] <richd> and it chooses xfce, xgm, kd, gdm
[07:56] <richd> adamonline46: not proper credintials?
[07:56] <X-nor> richd: yeah, well my DM is gdm
[07:56] <m0u5e> whats the difference between gutsy backports and proposed?
[07:56] <richd> can't spell, sorry
[07:56] <X-nor> richd: don't need to change that unless I have to go to old fashioned xinitrc
[07:56] <scguy318> m0u5e: backports are backports from newer repos, proposed is proposed updates
[07:57] <richd> X-nor: i thought that was what you were trying to do
[07:57] <WGGMk> Kevin`: sorry for my ignorance here.. But lemme get this straight... VMWare Server installs on the server or host machine.. and VMWare Server Console BUILDS or CONNECTS to the VM on the server/host machine???
[07:57] <adamonline46> richd: Well, I can access the shares from my Windows box, if that's what you mean.  I have myself added as an SMB user...
[07:57] <bazhang> does a #vmware exist?
[07:57] <Gnea> bazhang: what happens if you join it?
[07:57] <X-nor> richd: was trying to set what commands the Xclient script (which GDM claims exists) actually runs
[07:57] <m0u5e> scguy318: what's a backport then? :X
[07:57] <bazhang> Gnea: you first :}
[07:58] <Kevin`> WGGMk, the console connects to the server and allow you to do all management functions (except start the server) and use vms
[07:58] <richd> adamonline46: but maybe on the linux box, it asks to access it and the windows says bah, not high enough security. do you type in a pw for it?
[07:58] <X-nor> richd: it probably has little to do with X clients
[07:58] <Gnea> bazhang: lol i'm not the one who wants to know
[07:58] <morst> im trying to ./configure apache, and i get the message "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" and then "configure failed for srclib/apr"
[07:58] <bazhang> Gnea: haha
[07:58] <Kevin`> bazhang, yes
[07:58] <scguy318> m0u5e: taking a package from newer repo and having it work on an older release
[07:58] <bazhang> thanks Kevin`
[07:58] <X-nor> richd: actually it does - which ones get started automatically. but i've had no luck finding this script, which locate xclient, locate Xclient, etc turn nothing up
[07:58] <yuaoki> Hi I've got a Sharp Mebius laptop and I do not know what kind of memory chip to get , I've tried it with my macbook chip and the shape does not match how can I look it up?
[07:58] <adamonline46> richd: No, I removed authentication for the time being.
[07:59] <timfrost> morst: Have you installed build-essential?
[07:59] <richd> X-nor: ohhh
[07:59] <Gnea> astro76: thanks for the help, i'm just gonna sleep on it and try again later
[07:59] <m0u5e> scguy318: so proposed is like a pre-released update then? or something that's planned for hardy?
[07:59] <morst> timfrost, whats that?
[07:59] <richd> adamonline46: wierd... I'm assuming its not network error or anything like that
[07:59] <WGGMk> Kevin`: so using VMWare Server Console allows you to connect to the VMWare Server and manage/use VM's?
[07:59] <Kevin`> yuaoki, that's pretty basic information, manufacturer's page should have it. otherwise take a picture of it
[07:59] <X-nor> i'll be stuck prolly installing a filename index and searching for my =compiz
[08:00] <adamonline46> richd: I don't think so.  I can see the smb server if I do "smbclient --list <svr_ip> --no-pass
[08:00] <timfrost> morst: it is a package that pulls in compiler tools.  But why are you compiling apache, rather than using the packages that are in the repository?
[08:00] <richd> adamonline46: wierd...
[08:00] <m0u5e> scguy318: sorry just one more question, do proposed updates have lower quality specs than stuff in the normal repos? is it any less stable
[08:00] <Kevin`> WGGMk, yes, vmware server has no local gui unless you run the console locally
[08:00] <X-nor> problem I've had with gnome - there's a million ways to set something up, only one actually commits the change
[08:00] <adamonline46> richd: Quite... I dunno what to do :/
[08:00] <X-nor> and one leaves trash that you'll find later
[08:00] <morst> timfrost: so there is an easier way, how do i get the repository packages?
[08:01] <Kevin`> WGGMk, since this software is beer-free, you would be best served trying it yourself..
[08:01] <richd> X-nor: well, on my kde i use sudo ksysv
[08:01] <richd> and it pops up
[08:01] <wy> Any good asciiart software in linux?
[08:01] <X-nor> richd: that is the system V inits, correct?
[08:01] <richd> i used to know where it was located at
[08:01] <WGGMk> Kevin`: so can clients BUILD/CREATE VM's onto to the physical server host??
[08:01] <richd> yes
[08:01] <Kevin`> wy, banner, aalib/libcaca
[08:01] <Kevin`> WGGMk, yes
[08:02] <dhcpless> can anyone help me with dhcp3 config
[08:02] <X-nor> richd: pointless, IMHO, for what I'm trying to do - stop a panel from starting
[08:02] <Benalex> I am trying to install VMWare Player and getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49771/
[08:02] <richd> a panel?
[08:02] <WGGMk> Kevin`: dude your the man.. sorry for all the nagging questions haha.. thank you very much for the information
[08:02] <X-nor> richd: which is one of the x clients getting started from one of the session scripts of one of the DMs, (well, I know it's GDM in this case)
[08:02] <wy> Kevin`: libcaca seems to be a library
[08:03] <Kevin`> wy, yes. there are multiple programs that use it (mplayer for example can)
[08:03] <ifireball> dhcpless: client or server?
[08:03] <richd> X-nor: i dunno... i don't get what your saying
[08:03] <dhcpless> ifireball, server
[08:03] <richd> and i'm tired
[08:03] <richd> so good night all
[08:03] <richd> bharadwaj: good luck.
[08:03] <timfrost> morst: command line 'sudo apt-get install apache2' (version 2.0) or 'sudo apt-get install apache2.2' (for version 2.2).  Or use synaptic GUI
[08:03] <richd> BYE!
[08:03] <Avt> hi
[08:03] <Avt> who see me?
[08:03] <triplc> hi all
[08:03] <morst> timfrost: ok thanks i figured that out
[08:03] <X-nor> richd: I want to set compiz to start by default, instead of xfwm4
[08:04] <ifireball> dhcpless: what seems to be the problem?
[08:04] <Benalex> I am trying to install VMWare Player and getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49771/
[08:04] <triplc> i need to type Japanese and Chinese, which package I need to apt-get install?
[08:04] <Avt> can you guys see me??
[08:04] <WGGMk> Avt: nope
[08:04] <Avt> how to update firefox? sudo su apt-get update firefox? in dapper
[08:04] <Myrtti> Avt: sure we do
[08:04] <Spaceman3750> My WLAN card is a Realtek 8187B.  Ubuntu sees it in the hardware manager, as well as in lsusb (it is an internal USB card).  However, I try to install the drivers into ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper says that the card is not installed.  iwconfig also does not show it.  What should I do to get this card working?
[08:04] <Kevin`> wy, these libraries (except for the text-art program mentioned) make "ascii art" using dithering techniques. while it's rather good at that, it doesn't beat what a skilled artist can do, it's just a computer
[08:04] <Avt> ty
[08:05] <dhcpless> ifireball, whenever i try to start it i get an error "semicolon expected in dhcp3.conf , line #...." but I have semicolns in all the lines!
[08:05] <Myrtti> Avt: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:05] <Myrtti> Avt: no, wait, no.
[08:05] <Avt> ?
[08:05] <Myrtti> Avt: how long have you been without updating your system with security updates and such?
[08:05] <Kevin`> wy, might not be the right word for it. try it yourself and you'll see what it does
[08:05] <triplc> i need to type Japanese and Chinese text, which package I need to apt-get install?
[08:06] <dhcpless> triplc, scim
[08:06] <ifireball> dhcpless: well, sounds like a syntax error, paste the file an the error message to pastebin plz
[08:06] <bazhang> skim/scim triplc
[08:06] <triplc> dhcpless: thanks
[08:06] <WGGMk> dhcpless: haha what a great name
[08:06] <Avt> myrtti ok well see I made a tutorial and I might have forgotten to add update firefox and flash lol
[08:06] <dhcpless> ifireball, ok...
[08:06] <Avt> but now im in gutsy
[08:07] <dhcpless> triplc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/Setup
[08:07] <Avt> howto restore partition image of dapper**
[08:07] <Myrtti> Avt: well, basically update and upgrade should be enough unless you want to upgrade them to a version dapper repos don't have
[08:07] <Myrtti> Avt: what have you done basically
[08:07] <Avt> Myrtti can you see my tut and tell me what im missing?
[08:07] <Avt> im getting link
[08:08] <triplc> dhcpless: thanks, i am reading it now
[08:08] <dhcpless> triplc, you on gnome or kde or xfce?
[08:08] <wy> Kevin`: Actually I just need some pictures in my code. So those color drawings might not be good for me. Some line drawing is ok
[08:09] <dhcpless> ifireball, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49772/
[08:09] <Benalex> I am trying to install VMWare Player and getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49771/
[08:10] <Avt> myrtti here it is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536491
[08:10] <dhcpless> WGGMk i've been struggling with this DHCP3 server for days now....
[08:12] <dhcpless> Benalex, how are you trying to install ? VMserver or player?
[08:12] <Myrtti> Avt: first of all, forget all the "sudo su"-stuff
[08:12] <Benalex> dhcpless: player... from add/remove
[08:13] <dhcpless> Benalex, do you have VMserver installed?
[08:13] <Benalex> nope
[08:13] <Avt> myrtti realy?
[08:13] <dhcpless> Benalex, mmmm...is your sources list in order?
[08:14] <Myrtti> Avt: well yes. doing it with all the command still having sudo in front of them equals into nothing at all
[08:14] <Benalex> dhcpless: mmm.. not sure... I have enabled all package type main, universe, ..etc
[08:14] <dhcpless> Benalex, what happens when you run sudo apt-get update?
[08:14] <Myrtti> Avt: and doing "sudo su" can be replaced by other commands, safer than it.
[08:15] <Avt> ok I need to change be right back
[08:15] <Avt> sorry
[08:15] <Benalex> dhcpless: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49773/
[08:16] <ifireball> dhcpless: your problem seems to be on line #1, looks out of place to me
[08:16] <Avt> back
[08:17] <dhcpless> ifireball, this is because i have several interfaces (vmware..) notice that the error refers to another line
[08:17] <timfrost> Benalex: are you trying to install vmware player from a .deb package, or from the tarball?
[08:17] <bryan> what is the command to get the UUID for a disk drive?
[08:17] <dhcpless> timfrost, he is trying with add/remove...
[08:17] <Benalex> timfrost: no... from Add/remove
[08:18] <Myrtti> brb
[08:19] <dhcpless> Benalex, your sources look ok, sorry cant help you ,never installed vmware with add/remove. I always installed the tar ball from vmware website
[08:19] <ifireball> dhcpless: it does, but there are only comments between the 2 lines, and typically you get "missing <line terminator>" errors on the next things that comes along where the terminator should be, e.g. the next non-comment line...
[08:19] <timfrost> Benalex: OK, I missed that. there is NOT an ubuntu package for vmware player for gutsy.   That is the reason for the error.  You need to install the tarball
[08:19] <RamY> i have problems installing ubuntu
[08:19] <dhcpless> ifireball, you suggest commenting the 1st line?
[08:19] <ifireball> dhcpless: still it doesn't look like its consistent with the file format to me, so I'm man-ing it for a bit
[08:20] <RamY> i can't partition drive to install ununtu
[08:20] <dhcpless> ifireball, actually i got it off a web HOWTO
[08:20] <Benalex> dhcpless,timfrost... installing from tarballs is a plain pain.. and I can't do it... I appreciate if you drive me to some instruction to do so.. because ./confiure make make install doesn't work
[08:20] <RamY> i have problems installing ubuntu
[08:20] <RamY> i can't partition drive to install ununtu
[08:20] <ifireball> dhcpless: looks like its setting an environment variable to me
[08:21] <vallhalla81> ramy do you have a os installed?
[08:21] <dhcpless> Benalex, I never installed vmplayer , but i have vmserver on many machines , there is an excellent HOWTo in Ubuntu forum, I can google it for you if you wish...
[08:22] <RamY> i have windows intalled
[08:22] <dhcpless> ifireball, what do you mean?
[08:22] <Benalex> RamY.. how are you doing partitioning?
[08:22] <RamY> i dont' have ubuntu os installed
[08:22] <RamY> i have live cd thingy
[08:22] <Benalex> dhcpless: thank you
[08:22] <vallhalla81> ok i gues you are hoping to kep windows??
[08:22] <timfrost> Benalex: for vmware player, you need to install build-essential, then unpack the tarball and run 'sudo ./vmware-install.pl' in the main directory of the unpacked tar archive.  You don't go through the configure/make/make installprocess
[08:22] <RamY> yes vallhalla81
[08:23] <RamY> i have alot of important files on the drive
[08:23] <dhcpless> Benalex, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[08:23] <vallhalla81> ok you will need a program to set a partition for you
[08:23] <ifireball> dhcpless: I meant the formant of the line looks exactly like a bash command to setup an environment variable, not like a dchpd.conf directive, is line #33 yours as well?
[08:23] <Greevous> how do cd into hidden directories in the terminal
[08:24] <dhcpless> ifireball, the line that begins with what? (33)
[08:24] <RamY> gparted?
[08:24] <Greevous> how do I* cd...
[08:24] <nicolah> How do I exit from vi ?
[08:24] <ifireball> dhcpless: DHCPDARGS
[08:24] <malignity>  :q
[08:24] <vallhalla81> GParted or QTParted should work
[08:25] <RamY> Gparted wouldn't work i get an error
[08:25] <RamY> should i try qtparted?
[08:25] <dhcpless> ifireball,  ahh. yesterday when it didnt work i came to the IRC and someone suggested that ....
[08:25] <dhcpless> ifireball, i basically followed this : http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_dhcp.html
[08:25] <vallhalla81> hmm how many drives do you have/.
[08:25] <RamY> 2 drives
[08:25] <dhcpless> ifireball, i want DHCP3 to boot PXE install
[08:25] <RamY> 10 GB for windows and 70GB for files
[08:26] <RamY> used by windows
[08:26] <gingersnap> yay! there are ppl still on that are still awake!
[08:26] <RamY> i have about 50GB free space
[08:26] <vallhalla81> then why not move all windows things to 1 fdrive and linux on the other?
[08:26] <gingersnap> i was wondering if anyone here uses virtualbox?
[08:26] <ifireball> dhcpless: are you planning on the server doing DNS as well?
[08:27] <RamY> because windows is not very stable, and sometime i get viruses and i have to reinstall windows
[08:27] <bazhang> some do gingersnap
[08:27] <dhcpless> ifireball, no, just serving boot image to a client -thats it
[08:28] <gingersnap> i need alittle help and the vbox channels are .. well dead
[08:28] <vallhalla81> ok there is the option to run windows from linux using vmware you know?
[08:28] <Myrtti> mmmm breakfast. Avt you still there
[08:28] <bazhang> gingersnap: they usually are :}
[08:28] <Benalex> timfrost: thank you... working like charm.... I should read more about linux executable files
[08:28] <ifireball> dhcpless: yeah, like I thought, line #1 should've gone into /etc/default/dhcp3-servr, not dhcpd.conf
[08:28] <Avt> myrtti yes :D
[08:28] <Benalex> dhcpless: thanks for your help
[08:28] <Avt> you smeel the food also hehe
[08:29] <RamY> that i don't know of vallhalla81
[08:29] <ifireball> dhcpless: and you don't need line #33
[08:29] <Myrtti> Avt: so what was your original problem again, the backup or firefox updates
[08:29] <gingersnap> i know there are other programs besides virtualbox.. but my issue is that I can't uninstall it
[08:29] <nicolah> thanks
[08:29] <vallhalla81> ok lets you run a install of windows from within ubuntu
[08:29] <dhcpless> ifireball, THANK YOU , commenting the 1st line did the trick!
[08:29] <Avt> myrtti I think I forgot to post on there how to update firefox and flash im pretty sure
[08:29] <daya> anyone have idea how to modify splashy themes using usplash
[08:30] <dhcpless> Benalex, welcome...
[08:30] <ifireball> dhcpless: basically the fact that it doesn't LOOK like anything else in the file should've given you a hint...
[08:30] <dhcpless> ifireball, do you have experience in PXE booting?
[08:30] <RamY> i'm only trying to isntall ubuntu at the moment not windows
[08:30] <ifireball> dhcpless: yeah, kinda
[08:30] <bazhang> dhcpless: so you can change your nick now? :}
[08:30] <vallhalla81> you could try it that way and have your second disk as a storage device so your files are safer
[08:30] <Avt> myrtti im just trying to make it complete so I can add my gutsy howto
[08:30] <RamY> i did a partition, do i need to name the new partitioned drive?
[08:30] <Myrtti> Avt: the normal upgrade procedure should be enough unless you really really want to update them to a version not in dapper repos
[08:31] <vallhalla81> no the set up will do it for you
[08:31] <RamY> filesystem name is allocated
[08:31] <dhcpless> bazhang, my next nick TFTPless
[08:31] <Avt> myrtti which is
[08:31] <bazhang> dhcpless: hahaha
[08:31] <RamY> so i should apply settings only now?
[08:32] <dhcpless> ifireball, can you recommend a HOWTo? i read about 6 all somewhat different...
[08:32] <vallhalla81> yes i think so
[08:32] <RamY> See the details for more information.
[08:32] <RamY> IMPORTANT
[08:32] <RamY> If you want support, you need to provide the saved details!
[08:32] <RamY> See http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/tips/save_details.htm for more information.
[08:32] <RamY> an error occured
[08:32] <bazhang> ugh
[08:32] <ifireball> dhcpless: nope. my only recommendation would be to READ ALOT and UNDERSTAND what you are doing, blindly following HOWTOs never works
[08:32] <Avt> myrtti man whats the normal update procedure
[08:32] <Myrtti> Avt: dapper currently has 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.14~prepatch071125a-0ubuntu1
[08:33] <Avt> for dapper
[08:33] <ifireball> dhcpless: tftp is easy though, you afaik just install it, and pot the right files in /tftpboot
[08:33] <dhcpless> ifireball, great advice....this is a great leap for me, i just have this laptop with no CD, no floppy no USB and Win2k I need to save it
[08:33] <Myrtti> Avt: sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude upgrade
[08:34] <RamY> did u get that vallhalla81?
[08:34] <Avt> I dont need to add firefox or anythin to it?
[08:34] <ifireball> dhcpless: in that case you use something like knoppix that has PXE setup scripted out of the box
[08:34] <ompaul> !paste | RamY
[08:34] <ubotu> RamY: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <dhcpless> ifireball, you mean as PXE server? my laptop client has no CD....
[08:35] <ifireball> though I thought Ubuntu had something like that too on the liveCD
[08:35] <RamY> anyway
[08:35] <ifireball> dhcpless: yeah, knoppix has an option to boot on one machine and then boot the other machines with PXE over the network
[08:36] <vallhalla81> just looking at it ramy
[08:36] <dhcpless> ifireball, really ? knoppix is amazing.....
[08:36] <ifireball> dhcpless: yeah its a rather nifty feature, edubuntu might have that as well though
[08:36] <SeveredCross> Well, it uses the standard Debian base...
[08:36] <SeveredCross> You could easily do that kinda setup with any Debian distro.
[08:37] <vallhalla81> ramy does it show on your drive as a partition?
[08:37] <SeveredCross> It's not really a Knoppix-specific thing. They're just the only ones that have done it so far.
[08:37] <dhcpless> ifireball, ok thank you for your help ,,,,next step TFTP
[08:37] <RamY> before i click apply?
[08:37] <RamY> it says unallocated
[08:37] <vallhalla81> yes
[08:37] <Myrtti> Avt: nope
[08:37] <Avt> ty
[08:38] <squarebracket> i keep on getting permission denied for running /usr/sbin/sshd even though i'm root. can anyone tell me why?
[08:38] <Myrtti> Avt: those commands actually upgrade your *whole* system to up to date
[08:38] <vallhalla81> ok have you tryed making the partiton from windos so it is just a blank space and install to theat so setup can set the files for you?
[08:38] <Avt> what I dont need it updating the kernal
[08:38] <killerfaultier> Is courier-authlib-mysql the same as courier-authmysql?
[08:38] <Avt> it could mess up my video card driver
[08:39] <ifireball> SeveredCross: I know and HAD done that with Debian, but you can't expect newbes to easily jump through all the hoops of a dhcp/tftp/pxelinux/nfs-root install easily...
[08:39] <RamY> no i haven't tried partitioning from windows
[08:39] <timfrost> squarebracket: what do you get from the command 'ls -l /usr/sbin/sshd' ?
[08:39] <SeveredCross> Touche.
[08:39] <vallhalla81> i think it may be worth giving that a go
[08:39] <Myrtti> Avt: hrmmm
[08:40] <RamY> the problem is, if i partition from windows using the CD's that came with PC, i lose everything on the drive with saved files in it
[08:40] <RamY> can i give the new partitioned drive a name, on filesystem?
[08:41] <vallhalla81> you should be able to
[08:41] <RamY> what should i put for filesystem?
[08:41] <RamY> lunix-swap?
[08:41] <RamY> or something else
[08:41] <dhcpless> ifireball, one howto suggest i start tftpd server via inetd , another doest , what are the advantages of inetd?
[08:42] <vallhalla81> lunix-swap should be ok
[08:42] <ifireball> dhcpless: if you you just want to boot that one PC I really recommend you use Knoppix, setting up PXP manually is a LOT of work that was meant only to be done by sysadmins setting up dozens of workstations
[08:43] <ifireball> dhcpless: no advantages to inetd, but you should just stick with what the tftpd package does by default
[08:43] <squarebracket> timfrost: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 404184 2007-09-17 19:25 /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:43] <dhcpless> ifireball, but then the client PC will boot knoppix , while I want to install Ubuntu
[08:44] <timfrost> squarebracket: is there already a copy of sshd running?
[08:44] <anton_> How to check gateway IP in ubuntu?
[08:44] <dhcpless> i mean i know you can use knoppix to install buntu but isnt it a round about way to do something ?
[08:44] <timfrost> anton_: netstat -nr
[08:44] <RamY> still no luck vallhalla81
[08:45] <squarebracket> timfrost: i got an  [ OK ] when i stopped it
[08:45] <vallhalla81> !windows | RamY
[08:45] <ubotu> RamY: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:45] <vallhalla81> may help
[08:45] <ifireball> dhcpless: setting up PXE for one machine is WAY more of a round about...
[08:45] <squarebracket> timfrost: but i'm doing all of this via ssh... i wanted to change the port so that i could ssh to it without having to go through another computer on the network
[08:46] <vallhalla81> stuck for idears now sory
[08:46] <RamY> that's ok, thank you anyway :D
[08:46] <dhcpless> ifireball, ok thank you for your help , i want to google to knoppix boot PXE option now
[08:46] <ifireball> dhcpless: can does that laptop has a USB port?
[08:46] <vallhalla81> ok good luck
[08:46] <dhcpless> ifireball, it has but does not boot from USB
[08:47] <gouki> Anyone here has OpenArena installed and is willing to help me out testing my server?
[08:47] <bazhang> ramy gone?
[08:47] <ifireball> dhcpless: how about a CDROM drive?
[08:47] <timfrost> squarebracket: if there is an existing connection to port 22, the server won't be able to restart on that port.  Have you changed the port number in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[08:47] <dhcpless> ifireball, nope
[08:47] <dhcpless> no floppyeither
[08:48] <ifireball> dhcpless: you may be able to install GRUB on the MBR with knoppix and then chain-load the installer from USB
[08:48] <dhcpless> ifireball, look : http://dynabook.com/pc/catalog/ss/02012120/index_j.htm
[08:48] <squarebracket> timfrost: yes i have changed the port number both in ssh_config and sshd_config... is there any way i can start it again on another port remotely?
[08:48] <ifireball> dhcpless: pretty... but useless I guess...
[08:49] <macd> squarebracket, if its changed both places, restarting ssh should make that active, but you'll loose your active connection, so use something like screen to issue the restart in
[08:49] <ifireball> dhcpless: how did they intend for you to factory-restore the OS if you ever need to?
[08:50] <dhcpless> ifireball, it is sold by bulk to companies. Toshiba takes care of any problems
[08:50] <psyferre> hey folks, hope everyone is doing well.  Has anyone setup ejabberd and jwchat on ubuntu that also might have a few minutes to give me a shove in the right direction?  I'd really appreciate it :)
[08:50] <dhcpless> ifireball,  my friend got when his company upgraded to a new Toshiba
[08:50] <ifireball> dhcpless: then it would be nice to figure out what the Toshiba guys do, there must be a way to boot a windows install on it
[08:51] <ifireball> dhcpless: would a USB CD-ROM work?
[08:51] <bazhang> dhcpless: how old is that computer?
[08:51] <squarebracket> macd: i don't mind losing the active connection, so long as i can get back in once it's restarted... how would i do that, exactly?
[08:51] <vallhalla81> dhcpless does it have a cd drive?
[08:51] <dhcpless> ifireball, they take the HD out ,install a ghost image and boot it. no CD drive, It's about 5 years old
[08:52] <dhcpless> i mean they copy a ghost image unto the hD
[08:52] <ifireball> dhcpless: I suppose you could do that too if you have another laptop...
[08:52] <vallhalla81> then usb or remove the drive is the only option
[08:52] <timfrost> squarebracket: you can explicitly speciofy a different port number with the -p option - for example ' sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -p 44'
[08:52] <vallhalla81> or buy a usb cd/dvd drive
[08:52] <dhcpless> ifireball, the problem is that the HD is not standard
[08:53] <ifireball> dhcpless: oh..
[08:54] <rhetoric> hi, anyone know how i can setup a basic file share between two ubuntu computers on a basic-dumb-hub?
[08:54] <malignity> how do i turn off join/part notices in pidgin?
[08:54] <rhetoric> all the guides ive found are from like 2-3 years ago, and assume i know the local IP of my other computer
[08:55] <Myrtti> malignity: there's a plugin for that
[08:55] <ifireball> dhcpless: anyway, try using knoppix, any maybe the chain-load thing (I'm not that sure that grub can boot things off USB, I've been meaning to try that lately but didn't get around to it)
[08:55] <squarebracket> timfrost: i just tried that, but i get a "no route to host" error
[08:55] <rhetoric> i've installed NFS and setup shares on both of my PCs on this hub, but how do i mount them?
[08:55] <dhcpless> ifireball, i'm trying to google that as we speak.. thank you!
[08:55] <malignity> Myrtti: do you know which one?
[08:56] <malignity> nevermind :)
[08:56] <timfrost> squarebracket: from sshd?
[08:56] <Myrtti> malignity: you can get it by installing the pidgin plugins from the repositories, I can't remember the name though
[08:56] <malignity> thanks
[08:56] <rhetoric> this is the first thing that is actually easier in windows :/
[08:56] <malignity> it's called join/part hiding heh
[08:56] <Myrtti> I don't believe in pidgin being an IRC client
[08:56] <rhetoric> windows to setup a basic file share i "share folder" then mount hostname:/share
[08:56] <timfrost> !info pidgin-plugin-pack
[08:56] <ubotu> pidgin-plugin-pack: 30 useful plugins for pidgin. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-1 (gutsy), package size 159 kB, installed size 624 kB
[08:57] <malignity> no but it'll suffice, Myrtti
[08:57] <Myrtti> malignity: if you're not using it more than once a week ;-)
[08:57] <Myrtti> malignity: for max 2 hrs :-P
[08:57] <malignity> until i figure out what's wrong with the charset in screen on my shell and the ubuntu terminal >_<
[08:57] <squarebracket> timfrost: no, it looks like sshd executes, but when i try to ssh to the machine, i get a "no route to host" error
[08:58] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, NFS was designed with OLD UNIX sysadmins in mind, and ppl seem to be puring more work into making SMB easy now-days
[08:58] <timfrost> squarebracket: are the two machines on the same network?
[08:58] <rhetoric> samba doesnt even let me choose who can login via gui
[08:58] <rhetoric> just share name and read only
[08:58] <dhcpless> ifireball, look here http://www.babytux.org/articles/howto/how2netknoppix.php . i wonder if in step 4 , i can copy some files that would install Ubuntu?
[08:59] <malignity> rhetoric: ifconfig didn't tell you what you want to know?
[08:59] <malignity> re: local ip addresses
[08:59] <rhetoric> im a big noob malignity
[09:00] <rhetoric> i dont see any 192.* or 10.*
[09:00] <squarebracket> err, sort of. the machine that i'm on right now is one network. i've got an ssh console over the internet to one of the computers in the remote network. the machine i want on a different ssh port is another computer on that remote network.
[09:00] <grade_> hi guys
[09:00] <rhetoric> eth0 and lo
[09:00] <grade_> i have a question regarding apache2 ssl
[09:00] <bazhang> rhetoric: samba server?
[09:00] <grade_> i cant find this command in ubuntu server 7.10
[09:00] <pr0nGuy> Is there an instantaneously way to know whether your inet connection has been cut?
[09:00] <EADG> Evening all
[09:00] <ifireball> dhcpless: what he does there is copy Knoppix to the PXE SERVER, its not what you want
[09:00] <grade_> apache2-ssl-certificate
[09:00] <rhetoric> bazhang, i tried to use NFS but i really have no idea what im doing. im new from windows
[09:01] <squarebracket> timfrost: err, sort of. the machine that i'm on right now is one network. i've got an ssh console over the internet to one of the computers in the remote network. the machine i want on a different ssh port is another computer on that remote network.
[09:01] <RamY> help, excuse me
[09:01] <dhcpless> ifireball, i guess i didnt read carefully
[09:01] <bazhang> rhetoric: sharing via samba?
[09:01] <RamY> An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[09:01] <RamY> The resize operation is aborted
[09:01] <rhetoric> bazhang, it was easy to "share" folders via GUI with either NFS or samba i just dont seem to be able to mount them on the other PC
[09:02] <rhetoric> bazhang, i tried mount computername:/share /localfolder
[09:02] <theteacher> hi all. how can i boot ubuntu alternate cd from terminal? what command should i type?
[09:02] <rhetoric> it says computername has no ip
[09:02] <rhetoric> basically it says huh? hostname? wtf?
[09:02] <ifireball> rhetoric: with samba it should be simple matter of navigating the share with Nautilus
[09:02] <macd> squarebracket, you restarted sshd yet? or did you start another sshd without stopping the first one?
[09:02] <ifireball> rhetoric: to use the IP...
[09:02] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy rhetoric scroll down for samba
[09:02] <ifireball> rhetoric: so* use the IP...
[09:03] <dhcpless> ifireball, thanks again , signing off
[09:03] <Wander_w> theteacher: I think you are supposed to select the alternate boot cd at boot time
[09:03] <rhetoric> ifireball, im a noob and dont know the ip
[09:03] <rhetoric> ifireball, you mean the internet ip? :/
[09:03] <squarebracket> macd: i called /etc/init.d/sshd restart a while ago, it stopped the service, but i got a permission denied error on the restart
[09:03] <jxxxt> Ramy, I do not know the answer to your problem but I am sure if you continue banging around in the dark you will wreck one or both of your systems. Stop and study for a while..
[09:03] <macd> squarebracket, then it didnt stop, you need to issue that as sudo.
[09:03] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, what are your 2 machine connected through?
[09:03] <rhetoric> i cant seem to find any local IP, the computers each have their OWN internet IP and are on a cheap hub
[09:03] <timfrost> squarebracket: does 'netstat -nta | grep LIST' on the server show the new port?   On gutsy, I get a line like "tcp6       0      0 :::44                   :::*                    LISTEN ".  What do you see?
[09:03] <squarebracket> macd: i'm running as root
[09:04] <macd> squarebracket, ohh, and its /etc/init.d/ssh restart, not sshd
[09:04] <rhetoric> ifireball, you saw that last message forgot to include your name?
[09:04] <macd> squarebracket, but before you do that, you need to launch a screen session
[09:04] <macd> squarebracket, or the command will NOT finish and you may be stuck out
[09:04] <rhetoric> ifireball, i cant seem to find any local IP, the computers each have their OWN internet IP and are on a cheap hub
[09:04] <ifireball> rhetoric: essentially what you're saying is that your problems my be connectivity related and have nothing to so with samba or nfs...
[09:04] <theteacher> Wander_w, i want to install ubuntu from usb flashdisk. no cdrom on the pc. the pc cant boot from usb flashdisk. so i want to go to terminal by floppy n boot the alternate cd. how bout it?
[09:04] <rhetoric> ifireball, it works fine on the same computers in windows/macos
[09:04] <RamY> jxxxt: my problem is, i can't get ubuntu to install, i already have windows installed on this pc, and i would like to partition harddrive so i can install ubuntu without losing windows
[09:05] <rhetoric> ifireball, i just mount hostname:/share in windows works fine
[09:05] <RamY> i was intructed to use gparted, that didn't work
[09:05] <wols_> RamY: so resize your windows partition
[09:05] <macd> squarebracket, like "screen" "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart", then ssh back in like "ssh -p 44 user@host"
[09:05] <ifireball> rhetoric: how are they connected to the internet?
[09:05] <RamY> then someone said to use vmware and i don't know how to use that
[09:05] <rhetoric> ifireball, through a basic cheap a** hub (sends all packets to all connected devices)
[09:05] <webspiderus> can anyone help me get Desktop Effects running on ubuntu 7.10? I added the restricted drivers and tried to follow a few tutorials, but when I try to enable any Visual Effects, I simply get a message 'Desktop effects can not be enabled' (or something to that effect)
[09:06] <rhetoric> not a router, not even a switch, just a hub, with 2 pcs
[09:06] <squarebracket> timfrost: ya, it's listening on the ports i specified.
[09:06] <RamY> hwo do i do that wols_
[09:06] <wols_> webspiderus: what videocard and what driver?
[09:06] <wols_> RamY: run gparted from the livecd
[09:06] <wols_> RamY: but backup your windows installation first just in case
[09:06] <rhetoric> ifireball, maybe windows automatically assigns local IPs while linux doesn't?
[09:06] <RamY> wols_:  i did, i made a new drive, but i get an error
[09:06] <squarebracket> macd: without dropping the connection first? i still get the permission denied error.
[09:07] <wols_> RamY: what error?
[09:07] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, doesn't it "just work" for you with samba, if it works with windows it should work with about the same with samba
[09:07] <RamY> when i hit apply
[09:07] <webspiderus> wols_: Nvidia 7900 GT - I'm using the latest drivers I could find on Nvidia's website
[09:07] <timfrost> squarebracket: what happens when you do 'telnet <server> 44' from the client system (not you home system)?
[09:07] <RamY> ok i will do it again so i can show you the error, just a min
[09:07] <macd> squarebracket, I can't see how you'd get a permissions error as root, can you paste your whole error to pastebin
[09:07] <rhetoric> ifireball, i spent more time hacking around with NFS i'll try samba again now
[09:07] <jxxxt> Ramy, I always let the pstitioner shrink my windows (ntfs) to about one third its original size it worked for me every time except once where I lost win xp pro completely I think it was because I did not defrag windows first but I am not toosure
[09:07] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, they both do the same thing on that level, unless you're using an ancient Ubuntu version
[09:07] <jxxxt> partitioner
[09:07] <wols_> webspiderus: "glxinfo" and ubuntu comes with perfectly fine drivers in the restricted repo. I don't support nvidia.com drivers
[09:07] <Wander_w> theteacher: You might try some strange hack with pivot_root, kexec or the like; but really it seams easier to buy a cdrom drive
[09:08] <rhetoric> ifireball, one box is feisty ppc, other gutsy x86
[09:08] <macd> rhetoric, NFS should be WAY easier than samba to setup b/t *nix hosts
[09:08] <rhetoric> macd, im a noob and having lots of trouble with NFS
[09:08] <macd> rhetoric, its a few lines in hosts.allow, a few lines in /etc/exports and a line or 2 in fstab.
[09:08] <ifireball> rhetoric: Samba works becaue it does the network-equivalent of SHOUTING VERY LOUDLY on the network to find other hosts
[09:08] <rhetoric> macd, i cant even manually mount the share
[09:09] <macd> rhetoric, to ubuntuforums have a nice guide, it takes about 15 minutes to setup ;)
[09:09] <squarebracket> timfrost: from the first computer inside the remote network, i get no route to host
[09:09] <macd> rhetoric, what error are you getting?
[09:09] <webspiderus> wols_: well, I'm not bound to nvidia.com drivers .. I'm up to try anything at the moment. The last thing I tried is using Envy to get my video card configured
[09:09] <RamY> wols_:   See the details for more information.
[09:09] <RamY> IMPORTANT
[09:09] <RamY> If you want support, you need to provide the saved details!
[09:09] <RamY> See http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/tips/save_details.htm for more information.
[09:09] <theteacher> so there is no single command to boot from cd rom?
[09:09] <ifireball> rhetoric: though you need to make sure both hosts are on the same SMB workgroup
[09:09] <macd> squarebracket, then sshd did NOT restart properly
[09:09] <rhetoric> macd, i tried mount hostname:/share and it says the host cant be found, and i dont know the local ip (it's a cheap hub)
[09:09] <rhetoric> ifireball, k
[09:09] <RamY> an error occured while applying operstions         wols_
[09:09] <macd> rhetoric, login to the box and get the IP, and use it.
[09:09] <timfrost> squarebracket: and the two machines are on the same network?
[09:09] <bazhang> theteacher: what cdrom
[09:09] <squarebracket> macd: Starting sshd; /etc/init.d/sshd; line 113; /usr/sbin/sshd; Permission denied
[09:10] <rhetoric> macd, in ifconfig i dont see any 192.* or 10.*
[09:10] <macd> rhetoric, make that box have a static IP, and mount via IP in fstab.
[09:10] <Wander_w> theteacher: I don't know of any if your allready in Linux
[09:10] <rhetoric> macd, how do i give it a static ip?
[09:10] <macd> rhetoric, is the box ON the network?
[09:10] <rhetoric> macd, im a total noob bud :) sorry
[09:10] <squarebracket> timfrost: yes, i'm calling it via it's local network ip
[09:10] <rhetoric> macd, in windows it was a matter of "share folder" "map network drive host:/share"
[09:10] <macd> squarebracket, I've said like 3 times now, its NOT sshd its ssh.
[09:10] <rhetoric> macd, that's about all i know :/
[09:10] <Wander_w> theteacher: Maybe kqemu, vmware or some other virtualisation software
[09:10] <macd> rhetoric, linux is not windows ;)
[09:11] <squarebracket> macd: /etc/init.d/ssh: no such file or directory
[09:11] <rhetoric> macd, indeed and im glad, but im still a noob :)
[09:11] <macd> squarebracket, and this is ubuntu?
[09:11] <Wander_w> macd: damn, NOW you tell me
[09:11] <bazhang> theteacher: you want help?
[09:11] <squarebracket> macd: yes
[09:11] <ifireball> macd: yeah, but it should work about the same
[09:11] <macd> squarebracket, then you have the only machine ever with sshd not ssh in init.d
[09:11] <theteacher> bazhang, yes
[09:11] <Vorbote> macd: the easiest way: open the gnome-network-applet by openning the "manual configuration" item in the network-manager menu.
[09:11] <rhetoric> macd, it just seems that with all the other things that work out of the box in ubuntu, a basic file share on a hub would be GUI-able, or at least easy
[09:11] <theteacher> Wander_W, iwant ubuntu on my pc
[09:11] <bazhang> theteacher: answer my question then
[09:11] <squarebracket> macd: interesting...
[09:11] <macd> rhetoric, maybe, maybe not, its not exactly cut and dry.
[09:12] <Wander_w> theteacher: And the PC is running what? now?
[09:12] <rhetoric> macd, but it does seem like there is not even a LAN to speak of, how can i check?
[09:12] <RamY> wols_: well?
[09:12] <macd> rhetoric, but to put this in perspective, assign it a static IP, then use that to mount the NFS shares
[09:12] <macd> rhetoric, ping yahoo.com ?
[09:12] <theteacher> Wander_w, win98se
[09:12] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, you seem have kind of a bastard setup of a network, what windows does to work over it anyway is VERY insecure
[09:12] <rhetoric> macd, both boxes have an internet IP
[09:12] <bazhang> RamY: you downloaded gparted from windows and used that, correct?
[09:12] <theteacher> bazhang,im waiting
[09:12] <timfrost> squarebracket: and the same IP worked for port 22?
[09:13] <rhetoric> ifireball, i thought as much :(
[09:13] <RamY> gparted from windows? no
[09:13] <Wander_w> theteacher: eek!
[09:13] <RamY> gparted using ubuntu
[09:13] <bazhang> !who | theteacher ask the question
[09:13] <ubotu> theteacher ask the question: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[09:13] <macd> rhetoric, your not making sense, they both have internet IP's? and they're behind a router or something? or are they using seperate internet connections?
[09:13] <RamY> alt+f2  >  gksudo  >  gparted
[09:13] <rhetoric> macd, it's a really really cheap hub (not a switch, not a router)
[09:13] <bazhang> RamY: there is no error message from ubuntu like that iirc
[09:13] <squarebracket> timfrost: ya, before i tried altering the port it did
[09:13] <macd> rhetoric, ohhhh
[09:14] <rhetoric> macd, both boxes get an ip via DHCP
[09:14] <macd> rhetoric, ohhhhhh
[09:14] <lifesf> Hi everyone; I need some help to mount; i've tried going through man pages a bit; the info on the internet has not been helpful so far... I am wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out how to mount a hdd on my present machine; and preferably so it can mount automatically each time the pc reboots.
[09:14] <ifireball> macd: hes not behind a router, getting 2 different _real_ IP from the ISP it seems
[09:14] <macd> rhetoric, I dont think either samba or NFS is going to work for you
[09:14] <rhetoric> macd, all the hub does i think is send all packets to both boxes
[09:14] <bazhang> !mount
[09:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:14] <squarebracket> timfrost, i see that i've still got some sshd's running when i ps | grep sshd
[09:14] <RamY> what does irc got to do with it? i'm trying to install the ubuntu OS
[09:14] <bazhang> see above lifesf
[09:14] <wols_> RamY: did you defrag your windows? did you unmount your windows partition first?
[09:14] <lifesf> oh yeah forgot; i am running server
[09:14] <macd> rhetoric, youd need some way to have dns for both machines to communicate using hostnames, or change your entire config for NFS everytime your IP's change
[09:15] <TanisWolfbane> hi people, is there a way of searching the installed package list of files so i can restore a deleted module?
[09:15] <squarebracket> timfrost, though i don't know what ports they're listening on
[09:15] <rhetoric> macd, maybe i could directly connect the boxes then?
[09:15] <lifesf> !mount
[09:15] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:15] <macd> rhetoric, just buy a cheap 4 port router for 30 bux.
[09:15] <rhetoric> macd, sounds like a plan lol
[09:15] <wols_> TanisWolfbane: dpkg -l  |grep ^ii   or aptitude search ~i
[09:15] <macd> rhetoric, at least thats what I would do :)
[09:15] <TanisWolfbane> thanks
[09:15] <rhetoric> macd, but isnt there a way i can directly connect them?
[09:15] <macd> squarebracket, are you able to ssh into the box? or are you already in the box?
[09:15] <rhetoric> macd, it's rare that i even need to move files between the machines
[09:15] <cherva> are software indexing settings configured depending on the system when it boots from the livecd (like compiz-fusion) or they are the same for all users booting (and hopefuly installing) ubuntu
[09:15] <RamY> wols_:  so u r saying that i should login to window first, defragment the drive, then partition the dirve then boot ubuntu cd?
[09:16] <bazhang> RamY: insert the cd--resize the disk--guided--use ubuntu's suggestions--proceed, then when it is finished reboot and there you are
[09:16] <wols_> RamY: yes
[09:16] <macd> rhetoric, sure, with a crossover cable, and setting static IP's, but neither could be in the internet while this goes on
[09:16] <theteacher> bazhang, <bazhang>	theteacher: answer my question then
[09:16] <RamY> bazhang:  i get an error when i do that
[09:16] <RamY> wols_:  ok i'm going to do what u said
[09:16] <squarebracket> macd: i'm in the box right now. still in it from the first time i tried restarting sshd
[09:16] <wols_> rhetoric: does their (internal) IP change?
[09:16] <bazhang> RamY: not the guided you dont the manual is what that error is for
[09:16] <edis6n> hello, i just bought a razer diamondback mouse with g3 laser 1800 dpi but how to use those 1800 dpi, lomoco is 400, 800, 1600, 2000 dpi but nothing between.. im out of ideas already
[09:16] <macd> squarebracket, ahhh
[09:16] <Wander_w> theteacher: I don't know enough about win98se to help you. If I were you, I would either get a cheap cd drive, or pay someone else to install ubuntu for you
[09:17] <rhetoric> wols_, im not sure what internal IP is all about
[09:17] <bazhang> theteacher please ask your question or go elsewhere
[09:17] <ifireball> macd: you might be able to get away with setting up virtual IPs and tweaking /etc/hosts
[09:17] <wols_> rhetoric: what ip does you ubuntu have right now?
[09:17] <macd> squarebracket, just for fun, try using sudo instead of root to restart sshd
[09:17] <RamY> bazhang: wols_ already gave me some tips, i'm gonna try them, if they don't work, i will do what u siad.
[09:17] <macd> ifireball, yeah, I didnt think of that like eth0:1
[09:17] <lifesf> i didn't really understand,... how to mount hard drive; preferably automatically when computer boot. i am running linux server without gui
[09:17] <ifireball> macd: indeed
[09:17] <rhetoric> wols_, i have two ubuntu boxes on a basic hub (not a router, not a switch) both with seperate internet IP via DHCP, and i want a local share
[09:17] <stewart> what command do i use to start the mysql database
[09:17] <squarebracket> macd: doing that both stopping and starting fails.
[09:17] <rhetoric> wols_, in ifconfig i see no 192.* or 10.*
[09:17] <bazhang> ramy good, see you soon
[09:18] <Myrtti> stewart: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[09:18] <squarebracket> macd: nevermind, it does that without sudo
[09:18] <macd> squarebracket, do you have physical access, or just remote?
[09:18] <squarebracket> macd: only remote, unfortunately.
[09:18] <theteacher> bazhang, i want to install ubuntu from usb flashdisk. no cdrom on the pc. the pc cant boot from usb flashdisk. so i want to go to terminal by floppy n boot the alternate cd. how bout it
[09:18] <macd> squarebracket, so it worked with sudo?
[09:18] <stewart> how can i start the mysql database?
[09:18] <rhetoric> macd, router is sounding like a plan, but it sucks that i can easily share in windows :/
[09:18] <squarebracket> macd: no, it fails with or without sudo (i'm logged in as root right now)
[09:18] <Myrtti> stewart: ^
[09:18] <Wander_w> stewart: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[09:18] <macd> squarebracket, login NOT as root and try WITH sudo :)
[09:18] <bazhang> theteacher: how old is this machine?
[09:18] <Myrtti> Wander_w: better have it restarted in case there already is one running
[09:19] <macd> rhetoric, ehhh yeah but thats b/c you have netbios.
[09:19] <ifireball> rhetoric: again if you really want it to work like windows, Samba should be able to do that
[09:19] <timfrost> squarebracket: does /var/run/sshd.pid exist?  That may cause the start script to refuse to run
[09:19] <wols_> rhetoric: what is the route you use?
[09:19] <macd> wols_, it seems like his ISP gives him 2 internet IP's via a hub, but the boxes can't talk to each other.
[09:19] <rhetoric> wols_, route? elaborate
[09:19] <wols_> rhetoric: /sbin/route
[09:20] <theteacher> bazhang, its pentium 2 with 196 Mb. i use xubuntu alternate cd.
[09:20] <squarebracket> macd: the problem is i can't login to the box anymore. i su'ed way back before i even tried restarting sshd so that i didn't have to sudo to do a bunch of things. would dropping out of su mode drop the connection?
[09:20] <malignity> anything older than windows 2000 makes the baby jesus crieee
[09:20] <ReaperWitobi> I feel so incompetent, but does anyone know a way I can go about developing PHP webpages on my laptop?
[09:20] <macd> timfrost, you think? I mean the init sshd restart script checks the existance of a PID before stopping/staerting, and IF sshd is running (which it is hes logged in) the PID would have to exist
[09:20] <wols_> malignity: sure, use the editor of your choice and do it
[09:20] <rhetoric> wols_, what part of that output is relevant (do you want me to paste)?
[09:20] <squarebracket> timfrost, no it doesn't
[09:20] <edis6n> möchte so gern mit meiner neuen diamondback und 1800 dpi spielen :(
[09:20] <wols_> rhetoric: all of it if possible, in a pastebin
[09:21] <wols_> !de | edis6n
[09:21] <ubotu> edis6n: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:21] <macd> squarebracket, it shouldnt, you didnt login remotely as root did you?
[09:21] <rhetoric> wols_, you lost me at pastebin sorry im a noob
[09:21] <edis6n> sorry, wrong channel ;)
[09:21] <wols_> !paste | rhetoric
[09:21] <ubotu> rhetoric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:21] <rhetoric> wols_, ty
[09:21] <edis6n> i want to play with my new razer diamondback and 1800 dpi so bad
[09:21] <squarebracket> macd: no, i logged in as a normal user, and then used su.
[09:21] <macd> squarebracket, then you can exit su
[09:22] <timfrost> macd: If the PID file exists, then the script will see if that process is still running, and fail the restart.  But the file isn't there, so I don't know what is happening.
[09:22] <TanisWolfbane> wols_ I am actually trying to find out which package contains a file not search for a package, any ideas?
[09:22] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: Install apache, apache-php and mysql and start reading some php tutorials
[09:22] <squarebracket> macd: ah! i was still in screen..hm.
[09:22] <rhetoric> TanisWolfbane, it's just below package search, on the package search page
[09:22] <wols_> TanisWolfbane: dpkg -S <path to file>
[09:23] <macd> timfrost, yeah no PID, and ssh is still logged in, WIERD. not to mention his is /etc/init.d/sshd not ssh? (all mine are ssh)
[09:23] <wols_> macd: sshd being logged in is normal and will stay logged in until you close the connection. sshd just doesn't accept new connections
[09:23] <ReaperWitobi> Wander_w:  I've tried all that, but even the simplest PHP scripts are screwy
[09:23] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: try this simple php page as an example: <?php echo "Hello World!" ?>
[09:23] <rhetoric> TanisWolfbane, ahh i see you mean locally, BUT if you use the package search site it will show where it installs by default
[09:24] <cherva> are software indexing settings configured depending on the system when it boots from the livecd (like compiz-fusion) or they are the same for all users booting (and hopefuly installing) ubuntu
[09:24] <macd> wols_, ohhh, I've had them kick me off before
[09:24] <timfrost> macd: doing stop/start may explain the pid fie being missing, but the rest is strange
[09:24] <TanisWolfbane> thanks
[09:24] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: please define "screwy"
[09:24] <macd> squarebracket, If your really confident you made the proper config changes, you could reboot it. but uhhhh.....
[09:24] <rhetoric> wols_, pastebin site not loading. it's an IP from my ISP DHCP server, then link-local, then default
[09:24] <bazhang> any usb ports on that computer theteacher
[09:25] <squarebracket> macd: well all i did was edit out the "port" line and changed it to 222
[09:25] <wols_> rhetoric: paste.ubuntu-nl.org is loading fine
[09:25] <fotoflo> whats the package manager called again in ubuntu?
[09:25] <Avt> ty guys night
[09:26] <rhetoric> wols_, times out for me i blame level3 :)
[09:26] <macd> squarebracket, you are trying to ssh to it specifying the port right? (earlier you had mentioned port 44 I thought)
[09:26] <Wander_w> fotoflo: Mine's called "Programmas toevoegen/verwijderen" ;)
[09:26] <rhetoric> wols_, in my scene kiddie days i had a .nl shell it happened all the time :/ some surfnet box likes to die
[09:26] <wols_> rhetoric: pastebin.ca
[09:26] <fotoflo> sudo *what* install ?
[09:26] <rhetoric> wols_, ty
[09:26] <bazhang> theteacher: any usb ports? I have to go in a couple...
[09:26] <macd> rhetoric, also pastie.caboo.se
[09:26] <squarebracket> macd: i wanted it running on port 222, but i launched sshd both on port 222 and port 44. and yes, i am specifying the port
[09:27] <TanisWolfbane> okay so I am trying to restore the following file: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwl3945.ko but no package seems to contain it!!!!! Any ideas
[09:27] <macd> squarebracket, ohhhh
[09:27] <rhetoric> wols_, http://pastebin.ca/834578
[09:27] <bazhang> theteacher: ? hmm I guess he left
[09:27] <theteacher> bazhang, yes. there's usb port
[09:27] <timfrost> squarebracket: does 'netstat -nta | grep LIST' show entries for port 44 or 222?
[09:27] <macd> squarebracket, you manually started another ssh on both ports, and changed the config? and then restarted it using init.d, no wonder its f-d.
[09:27] <ReaperWitobi> Wander: everything after the [echo "] gets printed.  I wind up with [Hello World";?>]
[09:28] <Wander_w> TanisWolfbane: it is probably in package linux-2.6.22-14-modules or something
[09:28] <macd> squarebracket, I'd find all the running ssh'd processes and kill the ones on any port other than 22.
[09:28] <wols_> rhetoric: get a dyndns hostname for each of your PCs and use that to find each other when/if the IP changes
[09:28] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: How are you trying to run the php script?
[09:29] <jxxxt> fotoflo. apt-get
[09:29] <fotoflo> jxxxt: right!
[09:29] <fotoflo> thanks
[09:29] <TanisWolfbane> yea thats what I thought but  dpkg -S  says not found and I've tried reinstalling all the kernel packages
[09:29] <ReaperWitobi> I'm trying to open it in a web browser?
[09:29] <rhetoric> wols_, so i need to mount via internet IP, wont that route everything out and back in?
[09:29] <wols_> rhetoric: it shouldn't. that's why I asked for your route
[09:29] <squarebracket> timfrost: i had both before, but now i only have 222
[09:29] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: how did you save the script? What's the filename?
[09:29] <Wander_w> (and the path)
[09:29] <squarebracket> macd: it never properly restarted using init.d
[09:29] <rhetoric> wols_, gotcha lemme try mounting
[09:30] <wols_> TanisWolfbane: what file are you looking for its package?
[09:30] <squarebracket> macd: also, how can i tell which process is running on which port? ps | grep sshd doesn't tell me
[09:30] <macd> rhetoric, run traceroute from one box to the others IP, and see where it goes.
[09:30] <TanisWolfbane> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwl3945.ko
[09:30] <macd> squarebracket, lsof
[09:30] <wols_> squarebracket: netstat -anp |grep ssh
[09:30] <ReaperWitobi> 123.php
[09:30] <rhetoric> macd, good idea :)
[09:30] <Wander_w> TanisWolfbane: try apt-cache search linux module and then apt-get --reinstall install <thepackage>
[09:30] <macd> squarebracket, what wols_ said too.
[09:30] <ReaperWitobi> I'm editing it with gedit or vim (depends on the day)
[09:30] <rhetoric> macd, btw how does windows do it?
[09:31] <Stupid^Kid> excuse me what does hip-hop mean
[09:31] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: where did you put it?
[09:31] <macd> rhetoric, with netbios, which makes a dynamic mapping of host/ip's
[09:31] <fotoflo> if i have apt-get properly installed, i can install anything else, right?
[09:31] <fotoflo> apt-get and gcc
[09:31] <rhetoric> macd, ahhhh :)
[09:31] <ifireball> rhetoric: windows sens your files through the internet....
[09:31] <wols_> macd: it ises a tcp to netbios service helper
[09:31] <wols_> *uses
[09:32] <macd> wols_, plain english helped him understand. IN know what it is ;)
[09:32] <Wander_w> Stupid^Kid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip-hop
[09:32] <macd> I know*
[09:32] <rhetoric> wols_, will your dyndns solution essentially do the same thing?
[09:32] <ReaperWitobi> I have two copies, on in ~/Desktop and one in ~/public_html
[09:32] <Stupid^Kid> Wander_w: Thank you!
[09:32] <rhetoric> maybe it would be safer to use SSH?
[09:32] <macd> rhetoric, yes, but you dont want it routing NFS over the internet, NOT safe.
[09:32] <timfrost> squarebracket: what happens if you try 'telnet <server> 222'?
[09:32] <wols_> rhetoric: more or less, tho samba can't deal with IPs very well
[09:32] <Wander_w> Stupid^Kid: try wikipedia yourself first nexttime :)
[09:33] <squarebracket> timfrost: no route to host
[09:33] <macd> rhetoric, squarebracket good luck, its almost 4am so I must go
[09:33] <LordOfThePigs> Hello, is it possible to use the network manager and iwconfig at the same time?
[09:33] <edis6n> no one here who could help me with my 1800 dpi mouse problem?
[09:33] <rhetoric> macd, traceroute gave me 10.88.0.1
[09:33] <Stupid^Kid> Wander_w: i got it, but it willn't open
[09:33] <macd> rhetoric, huh?
[09:33] <TanisWolfbane> Wander_w: no it returns nothing, dkpg -S returns nothing and I've manually looked through all the kernel packages in Synaptic and non of them seem to list it
[09:33] <rhetoric> macd, is that my local address, what gives?
[09:33] <ifireball> rhetoric: SSH would be as safe as you can go, if you don't mind the speed
[09:33] <squarebracket> macd: thanks. i should probably hit the sack too. 4:30 here.
[09:33] <LordOfThePigs> for some reason, the network manager won,t let me use a 40 bits wep key...
[09:33] <macd> rhetoric, paste the route for both boxes on that pastebin and let me see it
[09:34] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: it should go in ~/public_html or somewhere in /var/www/ and then you should access it using a web browser
[09:34] <LordOfThePigs> and that's what my router uses
[09:34] <rhetoric> macd, http://pastebin.ca/834585
[09:34] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: like: http://localhost/~youusername/123.php
[09:34] <rhetoric> macd, that's from gutsy to feisty
[09:34] <macd> rhetoric, no the route comand output from BOTH boxes plz
[09:34] <wols_> TanisWolfbane: what file is it?
[09:35] <rhetoric> macd, i cant paste it from the other box gimme a sec :)
[09:35] <Wander_w> sec's over
[09:35] <macd> rhetoric, sure
[09:35] <TanisWolfbane>  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/iwl3945.ko
[09:35] <ReaperWitobi> Wander - Uh... yeah.  That's what I've been doing.  But the script prints poorly....
[09:36] <neo17_2lo> hi all
[09:36] <macd> rhetoric, ahh is that your other box right there?
[09:36] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: hmm... strange
[09:36] <rhetoric_> macd, yep :)
[09:36] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: Did you install all the apache-php stuff?
[09:36] <neo17_2lo> is anyone here wko has kingpin? :D
[09:37] <Spl33n> Hi! Me again :) Just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dramatic reduction of laptop battery life in Gutsy (even after utilising powertop's suggestions, lowering display brigtness, etc)
[09:37] <macd> sooo, from the 75.100. box, you run "traceroute 65.24.150.44" then paste that to pastebin for me
[09:37] <macd> @ rhetoric
[09:37] <ifireball> macd: wait wait, I think it may be posible to get a click-easy solution to rhetoric's problem with avahi/zeroconf, e.g. have the machines talk on the 169.254 range
[09:37] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: maybe try the commandline version of php and then type on the commandline: php 123.php
[09:37] <macd> ifireball, I think we can do an eth0:1 on each box and just do 10.0.0.1/2 and set tyhem static too, but I'm not sure thats a great idea
[09:37] <neo17_2lo> :(
[09:38] <macd> ifireball, or at least I dont have the time to explain it ;)
[09:38] <ifireball> macd: seems that ubuntu can route to that range by default, and I'd rather solve that without having his to complex stuff on the console
[09:39] <macd> ifireball, yeah, but Im not sure that will leave him with internet connectivity
[09:39] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: I think you need libapache2-mod-php5
[09:39] <rhetoric_> macd, http://pastebin.ca/834590 now you can hax0r both my boxes! loljk
[09:39] <macd> wooohoooo rhetoric  ./hacks
[09:39] <macd> ;P
[09:39] <ReaperWitobi> Wander:  the PHP command returns the right HTML...
[09:40] <macd> rhetoric, was that the right link, it looks the same as the old one
[09:40] <squarebracket> timfrost, macd: i think it's a firewall issue on ports other than 22. arg! thanks for the help, though :)
[09:40] <rhetoric> macd, yep lol i promise
[09:40] <ifireball> macd: how are you going about that then? ssh?
[09:40] <macd> rhetoric, yeah I see now
[09:40] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: have you installed libapache2-mod-php5? is it enabled in the apache configuration?
[09:41] <rhetoric> macd, trying to mount at that 10.* ip at least gives me connection refused...
[09:41] <macd> rhetoric, get someone to help you configure a static IP alias for eth0 on both boxes. then use those static IPs with NFS.
[09:41] <LordOfThePigs> once I have configured a wireless card with iwconfig, how do I start the actual connection?
[09:41] <ReaperWitobi> To the first:  Affirmative, to the second....
[09:41] <macd> rhetoric, but I really have to jet
[09:41] <macd> rhetoric, so good luck :)
[09:41] <wols_> LordOfThePigs: if you did it right it's already running
[09:41] <rhetoric> macd, thanks for your help
[09:41] <ifireball> rhetoric: i'll take over ;)
[09:41] <lesshaste_> is there an ubuntu package for pidgin otr 3.1?
[09:41] <rhetoric> ifireball you have those 2 pastebins?
[09:41] <rhetoric> ifireball, btw samba didnt work either
[09:42] <LetterRip> is there a known problem with processor on dual core processors?  Watching my processor usage the processors are being 'used' about the exact same - even though I have a task that should only be utilizing one processor with any sort of load
[09:42] <LetterRip> ie playback of a video
[09:42] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, can you re-post the links plz?
[09:42] <Wander_w> LordOfThePigs: pump -i <interfacenamelike eth1> to get an ip
[09:42] <LordOfThePigs> wols_: so there is no need to do anything special?
[09:42] <rhetoric> ifireball, (first) http://pastebin.ca/834585
[09:42] <rhetoric_> ifireball, http://pastebin.ca/834590
[09:42] <wols_> it is if you don't want to have to run iwconfig every time you boot
[09:43] <rhetoric> wols_, check those 2 links also
[09:43] <Wander_w> LetterRip: that's probably the linux scheduler shuffeling stuf around
[09:43] <ifireball> rhetoric: do you have pasts of "ifconfig" ?
[09:43] <lesshaste_> can I install the hardy heron package safely?
[09:43] <Buyydee> wols: thanks for your help yesterday, grub works fine now
[09:43] <rhetoric> ifireball, no but i can if you need it or i can tell you specifics in chan
[09:43] <rhetoric> ifireball, semi afk a sec smoking
[09:44] <LetterRip> Wander_w, hrrmmm that doesn't make sense
[09:44] <jxxxt> lesshaste, If you need to ask probably not...
[09:44] <Wander_w> LetterRip: you can probably stop it from doing that by doing: echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/sched_mc_power_savings
[09:44] <Wander_w> LetterRip: Why not?
[09:44] <wols_> Buyydee: it'S a bad solution to. cause next time you install a kernel it will break again until update-grub recognizes it
[09:44] <hello_man> I have a 'home video' encoded in the divx format, and I want to get it on a DVD to watch on a normal DVD player in the U.S.. How do I do this while maintaining quality?
[09:45] <LetterRip> Wander_w, i get 'permission denied'
[09:45] <LetterRip> even if i do it via sudo
[09:45] <ReaperWitobi> I doubt it's enabled, Wander - mostly because I have no Idea how to...
[09:45] <KalEl> you can get a dvd player to play divx for $25
[09:45] <Buyydee> wols: i was wondering, yes. setup (hd0,2) didn't recognise it, neither did update-grub
[09:46] <hello_man> KalEl: I would like to find a way other than spending $25.
[09:46] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, we need to figure out how to solve this, there are 2 ways of going about this: 1. have the machine talk with SSH over the internet, that would be slow but secure and rather easy to set up; 2. fix the networking so they talk through the HUB, that maybe a little more complicated to achieve, and may stop working if your ISP changes his config
[09:46] <rhetoric> ifireball, elaborate on the 2nd^^
[09:46] <dris> hi
[09:46] <wols_> Buyydee: setup (hd0,2) is installing grub
[09:46] <dris> hello guys
[09:46] <wols_> Buyydee: totally different thing
[09:47] <Buyydee> wols: ok, then i mixed this up
[09:47] <rhetoric> ifireball, if ISP changes config how
[09:47] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: there should be a symbolic link to a php config file in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[09:47] <hello_man> !dvd
[09:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:47] <rhetoric> ifireball, i could edit the fstab if i knew what to mount ><
[09:47] <wols_> doing a setup (hd0,2) could even have caused this cause now grub is installed on sda3's bootrecord which is bad
[09:47] <KalEl> HellDragon, ohi see, in that case you might want to install ffmpeg and dvdauthor
[09:47] <macd> rhetoric, before I leave here it is in a nutshell http://pastebin.ca/834597
[09:47] <macd> rhetoric, and thats some fast typing ;)
[09:47] <KalEl> k9copy should also do the job
[09:47] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, on the 2nd way, we do some terminal hacking to either assign your machines another set of IP addresses so they can speak among themselves, or setup static routes
[09:47] <wols_> if sda3 is windows, I'm sruprised windows is still booting with that
[09:48] <rhetoric> macd, aww thanks
[09:48] <KalEl> hello_man, here: http://www.burningbits.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3804
[09:48] <KalEl> sorry personally i like to have the files as compact as possible
[09:48] <hello_man> KalEl: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[09:48] <LetterRip> Wander_w, my processor is an AMD 64 x2 if that affects anything
[09:48] <KalEl> writing to a normal dvd inflates it like 1:5
[09:48] <rhetoric> macd, will i not be connected to the internet if i do that?
[09:49] <macd> rhetoric, you will, your just adding an alias to your ethernet card so that they can talk as if they are on a lan
[09:49] <bazhang> theteacher: you back?
[09:49] <KalEl> i did not mean any offense
[09:49] <rhetoric> macd, great that's what i need!
[09:49] <macd> rhetoric, but Im sure ifireball  knows what Im doing there and help you with it ;)
[09:49] <KalEl> apologies if i sounded rude
[09:49] <macd> take it easy.
[09:49] <Wander_w> LetterRip: Why do you want to prevent linux from scheduling jobs on multiple cores anyway?
[09:49] <rhetoric> macd, great thanks so very much, go before you are late for whatever it is :)
[09:50] <rhetoric> ifireball, did you see what he was talking about?
[09:50] <bazhang> !minimal | theteacher this is the best I can suggest right now--back later if you need help
[09:50] <ubotu> theteacher this is the best I can suggest right now--back later if you need help: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:50] <ifireball> rhetoric: yeah macd's way is essentially the 1st option of the 2nd way...
[09:50] <macd> ohhh rhetoric one more thing that paste is wrong auto eth0:1 inet static not eth0 ;)
[09:50] <LetterRip> Wander_w, I'd just like to kill the ridiculous amount of noise my fan is making under linux
[09:50] <rhetoric> ifireball, http://pastebin.ca/834597
[09:50] <rhetoric> macd, kk :)
[09:50] <ReaperWitobi> Wander: php5.conf?  What of it?
[09:50] <LetterRip> When I had vista installed I'd run in processor throttled mode that kept the fan off 99% of the time
[09:50] <ifireball> rhetoric: I'd rather not have you think networking on ubuntu is that hard though... ;)
[09:51] <Wander_w> LetterRip: uhm... then you are probably after the wrong problem
[09:51] <rhetoric> ifireball, as long as it gets done and is relatively stable, but it does seem like it would push away users less patient than myself
[09:51] <Buyydee> wols: i just tried sudo update-grub again, didn't recognise it. can you think of a reason for this? the device is readable in nautilus, ntfs formatted, sata-2
[09:51] <Wander_w> LetterRip: you should check if ondemand cpu governor is used
[09:51] <LetterRip> Wander_w, actually what I've read of the command you just pasted stated that that reduces power usage - ergo fan usage
[09:51] <rhetoric> ifireball, so explain what the 2nd option would be
[09:51] <Wander_w> LetterRip: yeah, but just a bit
[09:51] <rhetoric> ifireball static routes
[09:52] <ifireball> rhetoric: samba should've worked if it does on windows, maybe its the version difference
[09:52] <rhetoric> ifireball it seems like it would be the same problem as NFS no route to the other box
[09:52] <rhetoric> ifireball so it doesnt even see it
[09:52] <Wander_w> LetterRip: what does cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor say?
[09:52] <wols_> Buyydee: sorry, no
[09:53] <LetterRip> ondemand
[09:53] <Wander_w> LetterRip: thats good
[09:53] <Buyydee> wols: thanks for your effort, i'm going to ask again in the forums
[09:53] <Wander_w> LetterRip: are you on a laptop or on a desktop?
[09:53] <LetterRip> laptop
[09:53] <ifireball> rhetoric: setting up static routes means forcing the machines to acknowledge that they are on the same hubs despite IP addresses indicating otherwise, but that config is IP dependent and will break if your ISP changes your IPs
[09:53] <LetterRip> 'desktop replacement'
[09:53] <lesshaste_> can I install the hardy heron package safely on gibbon? I want pidgin-otr 3.1
[09:53] <Regel> lesshaste_, i think you can
[09:54] <rhetoric> ifireball could i fix that by using dyndns?
[09:54] <Arv3n> Hello.
[09:54] <davidwinter> in Firefox I accidently clicked the Hide Bookmark Menu and now I can't find anywhere to bring it back.
[09:54] <Wander_w> LetterRip: uhmm... try www.linuxpowertop.org and do the tips it suggests
[09:54] <Arv3n> Can I talk to someone regarding making my own distro?
[09:54] <davidwinter> any ideas?
[09:54] <lesshaste_> Regel, ok thanks
[09:54] <LetterRip> thanks
[09:54] <Regel> lesshaste_, you can always remove it if it doesnt work
[09:54] <rhetoric> ifireball it seems like macd's way is easier and more stable
[09:54] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, dyndns is kinda like doing it the 1st way I talked about e.g. via the internet
[09:54] <KalEl> davidwinter, view->toolbar->bookmarks?
[09:55] <lesshaste_> Regel, true that
[09:55] <theteacher> bazhang, thx. i'll try it. i'm not going anywhere.
[09:55] <Arv3n> davidwinter, or just right click the top --> bookmarks toolbar
[09:55] <davidwinter> KalEl: it's not the toolbar, but the actual menu drop down
[09:55] <Arv3n> Is anyone experience in making a distro?
[09:55] <ReaperWitobi> Wander:  I've got a php5.conf, and a php3.load... but I have no way to ensure that they are correctly configured...
[09:55] <Arv3n> *experienced
[09:55] <ifireball> rhetoric: indeed, macd's way is best long-tern speaking so try setting that up (and dont forget it sould be eth0:1 on lines 05 and 11
[09:56] <ReaperWitobi> *php5.load
[09:56] <scguy318> Arv3n: I'm as clueless as you are, but take a look at Linux from Scratch
[09:56] <Arv3n> scguy318, I'm wanting to start my own company in the future.
[09:56] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: uhm.. php3 is OLD I'd delete it (apt-get remove --purge php3) if I were you
[09:56] <Arv3n> scguy310, that would be more difficult than it's worth, I'm thinking of making it based on Ubuntu.
[09:56] <Arv3n> Maybe Debian.
[09:57] <ReaperWitobi> Haha, no, it was a typo
[09:57] <rhetoric> ifireball, right now my /etc/network/interfaces has 2 lines "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" is that right?
[09:57] <scguy318> Arv3n: unfortunately, I'm kinda clueless in the area, but the Linux from Scratch project has docs and such
[09:57] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: hehe, ok
[09:57] <scguy318> Arv3n: might be worth reading, its 4 AM CST, so the smarter people are sleeping
[09:57] <myke54142> LFS Is good
[09:57] <myke54142> i made my own distro with that
[09:57] <Arv3n> hm.
[09:57] <Arv3n> well.
[09:57] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: uhm.. then try this as a script: <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[09:57] <Arv3n> myke54142, define own distro.
[09:58] <Wander_w> scguy318: it's 11 am over here
[09:58] <Arv3n> Wander_w, 5am here.
[09:58] <ifireball> rhetoric: that sounds right assuming you're using network manager, add his lines to the end, but don't forget to add blank lines before and after
[09:59] <rhetoric> ifireball i copy what he gave me *exactly* or...? and what is the change on lines 5 and 11
[09:59] <tsendrdj> sdfsdf
[09:59] <scguy318> Wander_w: cool, somewhere in Europe?
[09:59] <ifireball> rhetoric: change 05 and 11
[09:59] <Buyydee> <-- spain
[09:59] <Wander_w> Arv3n: myke54142 probably used the Linux From Scratch documents and HOWTO's to compile his own distro from scratch... pretty cool to do that, if you have the time
[09:59] <ifireball> rhetoric: put eth0:1 rather then just eth0
[09:59] <Buyydee> scguy, why do you ask?
[10:00] <rhetoric> ok and i put BOX1 and BOX2 in the file on both BOX1 and BOX2?
[10:00] <scguy318> Buyydee: I was actually addressing Wander_w, and I was wondering as to her timezone
[10:00] <Wander_w> scguy318: The netherlands (yeah that place where weed is legal)
[10:00] <scguy318> *his/her
[10:00] <Buyydee> scguy: sry, now i get it :D
[10:00] <scguy318> Wander_w: lol, imperialist America here :P
[10:00] <Wander_w> his
[10:00] <rhetoric> ifireball, ok and i put BOX1 and BOX2 in the file on both BOX1 and BOX2? and do i replace BOX1 and BOX2 with the hostnames?
[10:00] <scguy318> Wander_w: ah
[10:00] <evan__> why must i reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot?
[10:00] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, the 4 lines beneath "BOX 1" on one on the machines the other 4 lines on the other
[10:00] <ReaperWitobi> Wander:  Nothing.
[10:01] <Wander_w> scguy318: Wanna buy a morgage? :P
[10:01] <Wander_w> scguy318: some healthcare maybe?
[10:01] <rhetoric> ifireball, ok i thought so, thanks for clarification :)
[10:01] <Wander_w> scguy318: Broadband?
[10:01] <Wander_w> I'll stop the teasing now :)
[10:01] <scguy318> Wander_w: lol, I'm not making any sort of money yet :P
[10:02] <rhetoric> ifireball, i think i've finally wrapped my head around this :) maybe i could even write scripts for other noobs lol
[10:02] <myke54142> arv3n, custom image for a hardened X terminal that ran on very minimal hardware (486/25 with 12M)
[10:02] <ifireball> tell me wne you got past the "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" step on one of the machines
[10:02] <scguy318> Wander_w: but broadband service is indeed very retarded in the US, telecom monopoly and all
[10:02] <ifireball> tell me once you got past the "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" step on one of the machines
[10:02] <rhetoric> ifireball, will do. gonna start now
[10:02] <starshoot> bonjour a tous
[10:02] <scguy318> bonjour, starshoot
[10:02] <scguy318> !fr | starshoot
[10:02] <ubotu> starshoot: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:03] <Wander_w> scguy318: I got 4mbit/s plus unlimited telephone for 50 dollar a month
[10:03] <ifireball> rhetoric: don't do this on both machines at once, you might lose connectivity and then we won't be able to talk...
[10:04] <rhetoric> ifireball, hehe yea im going to do it on the laptop first
[10:04] <Wander_w> scguy318: but I kinda live in the fucking middle of nowhere, so the 20 mbit/s packages for 30 dollar a month are unavailable :(
[10:04] <scguy318> Wander_w: I think I get around 5 Mbit/s for about that same price
[10:04] <scguy318> Wander_w: :(
[10:04] <ifireball> rhetoric: ok.
[10:04]  * frederick85 is wondering how to make glmatrix as his wallpaper in xfce4
[10:04] <scguy318> Wander_w: for telephony I use some cheapo VoIP
[10:05] <rhetoric> ifireball, once i give a static IP to that box i should be able to mount it from this one right?
[10:05] <Wander_w> scguy318: you run your own voip system?
[10:05] <scguy318> Wander_w: no, I pay a VoIP provider
[10:05] <frederick85> anybody know how to make a screensaver run as wallpaper in xfce4
[10:05] <Wander_w> scguy318: ah, that is included in my package
[10:05] <scguy318> Wander_w: would be nice to know how tho :)
[10:05] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, you need to get the right IPs on both boxes 1st, then we'll test it with ping and only then we can start talking about mounting
[10:05] <Wander_w> scguy318: uhm.. I beleive asterisks is what you want then
[10:06] <myke54142> at home i have 7mbit, on 26.4 dialup right now tho
[10:06] <rhetoric> ifireball, gotcha
[10:06] <scguy318> Wander_w: yeah, probably
[10:06] <Wander_w> myke54142: DIALUP? what! are you from the stoneage? :P
[10:06] <ifireball> rhetoric: I suppose we'll also setup hostnames in /etc/hosts so the config will be more eye-friendly
[10:07] <Myrtti> myke54142: I'm on dialup too... Mobile 3G dialup
[10:07] <rhetoric> ifireball you mean so it's hostname instead of 10.*? who cares? :)
[10:07] <scguy318> Wander_w: he might be in the middle of nowhere too :P
[10:07] <rhetoric> ifireball, we've come this far lol
[10:07] <ifireball> rhetoric: I do :P
[10:07] <myke54142> yeah i'm in the middle of nowhere
[10:07] <Wander_w> scguy318: so? doesn't he get POTS then?
[10:07] <myke54142> so is home but it's in town in the middle of nowhere
[10:07] <rhetoric> ifireball, ok :) at least i'll learn something. one sec doing changes on laptop
[10:07] <scguy318> Wander_w: thus dialup :)
[10:07] <ifireball> rhetoric: It'll make diagnosing stuff that much easier
[10:07] <scguy318> Wander_w: 56k is pushing theoretical max anyway, actual throughput is prob what myke's getting
[10:07] <ReaperWitobi> Wander:  Is there anything in particular I'm looking for?  When I load it in a browser, it does nothing, but again it returns perfectly via comandline.
[10:08] <Wander_w> scguy318: nearly all POTS is ASDL connected here, around 99%+ I guess
[10:08] <neopsych1> how can i create a divx / xvid from only VOB files? video_ts info missing.
[10:09] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: then it's pretty safe to say that you php configuration is fubarred
[10:09] <wols_> neopsych1: a vob file is just a mpeg2
[10:09] <ReaperWitobi> Ugh.
[10:09] <scguy318> Wander_w: ah
[10:09] <scguy318> Wander_w: some rural areas are constrained to dial-up, though probably the more populous areas have the option of ADSL
[10:10] <Wander_w> ReaperWitobi: I can't tell from over here what exactly is wrong, but you might try reinstalling apache and php
[10:10] <ReaperWitobi> Ugh.
[10:10] <ReaperWitobi> Aight.
[10:11] <Filled-Void> Could anyone tell me how to get conky to work with the script I have from gnome-look.org .
[10:11] <gingersnap> how do you open an executeable with the help flag?
[10:11] <rhetoric> ifireball, hmm there is a 3rd line on my feisty box "iface eth1 inet dhcp" that is NOT on the gutsy box what gives?
[10:11] <cbx33> where does software raid store it's configuration??
[10:11] <neopsych1> how do i change ports on Evolution?
[10:11] <wols_> ReaperWitobi: dpkg -l |grep php
[10:11] <Wander_w> cbx33: If I recall correctly; in the partition table
[10:12] <cbx33> cool
[10:12] <rhetoric> ifireball, OH my stupid wireless that doesnt work so i just use eth2 then?
[10:12] <cbx33> just about to forray into it all for the first time
[10:12] <wols_> Wander_w: and where would it store anything there?
[10:12] <cbx33> ;)
[10:12] <ifireball> rhetoric: its because gusty relies more heavily on network manager then feisty did, it doesn't matter
[10:12] <Wander_w> cbx33: and there probably is a configuarion file for initialisation in /etc
[10:13] <wols_> note: a partitiontable has 16 bytes per partition
[10:13] <cbx33> there is, but it can do it all automatically
[10:13] <cbx33> without the mdadm file
[10:13] <rhetoric> ifireball, i think it's because both have a default interface that isnt even listed in /etc/interfaces maybe?
[10:13] <ifireball> rhetoric: but just to make sure let me have a look at the ifconfig output plz; I take it the gusty IP is already setup?
[10:13] <wols_> cbx33: most likely initrd scripts
[10:13] <cbx33> nope
[10:13] <evan__> hey , everytime i boot i need to reinstall my video driver ( nvidia 169.07 ) why does it load vesa all the time???
[10:13] <Wander_w> cbx33: yeah, could allso be in a magic sequence of bytes at the start of each partition
[10:13] <cbx33> possibly
[10:13] <evan__> i think becasue it does someting weird with xgl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49781/
[10:13] <cbx33> yeh
[10:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, no i was going to do it on the feisty laptop, when i saw the 3rd line in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:14] <cbx33> well off to try
[10:14] <wols_> evan__: ask nvidia.com they installed it. not ubuntu
[10:14] <evan__> wols_ nvidia doesnt help ubunu users
[10:14] <roman_> co mówisz?
[10:14] <ifireball> rhetoric: what is the interface its actually using?
[10:14] <evan__> wols_ its in there irc channel
[10:14] <wols_> evan__: well, you certainly didn't install the drivers from ubuntu, that's for sure
[10:14] <Wander_w> evan__: if you have a fresh boot, is the nvidia module listed in lsmod?
[10:14] <ifireball> rhetoric: (did you paste ifconfig somewhere?)
[10:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, i think it's because the laptop has both wireless and hardwired internet
[10:14] <gingersnap> how do you open an exe with the help flag?
[10:15] <rhetoric> ifireball i can gimme a sec
[10:15] <roman_> I don't know
[10:15] <Wander_w> gingersnap: open a terminal; type ./theexecutable --help
[10:15] <wols_> evan__: "try to use your distribution's driver packages". follow their advice
[10:15] <gingersnap> thank you
[10:15] <meshuggahaddict> hello everyone wonderful morning inst it
[10:15] <KalEl> #nvidia: "Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu!"
[10:15] <rhetoric> ifireball, yea on the laptop eth0 is wireless, eth1 is wired (hence the line in /etc/interfaces it seems that eth0 is never listed?)
[10:15] <meshuggahaddict> anybody have any comments about the XFX brand of video cards
[10:15] <roman_> bit dimm
[10:16] <wols_> meshuggahaddict: ##hardware
[10:16] <KalEl> (the exclamation sign is actually not there, i added it for the effect)
[10:16] <evan__> Wander_w : it is now ill ty a fresh reboot now brb
[10:16] <Wander_w> meshuggahaddict: They make videocards?
[10:16] <rhetoric> ifireball, so what will the entry be for the static ip, if eth1 is the wired connection im using
[10:16] <frederick85> is there some way to automatically generate a new xorg.conf file from the default ubuntu settings
[10:16] <frederick85> I installed from minimal boot and didn't have the same one
[10:16] <meshuggahaddict> yes they do and they seem to be pretty good\
[10:17] <wols_> frederick85: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[10:17] <Wander_w> frederick85: maybe there is a .bak file?
[10:17] <ifireball> rhetoric: you should put "eth1:1" rather then "eth0:1" in the static lines
[10:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, will it be eth1:1?
[10:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, yay! i was right
[10:17] <Wander_w> frederick85: ignore me, listen to wols_ :)
[10:17] <wols_> frederick85: there are /etc/X11/xorg.conf* files where * is datetime
[10:17] <meshuggahaddict> I'm just woundering because i have some open GL issues with my card i have right now
[10:17] <ifireball> rhetoric: don't forget the blank lines before and after, they are important
[10:17] <wols_> meshuggahaddict: is it a software or hardware problem? and is the OS you run ubuntu?
[10:17] <edis6n> hey guys, i configured my diamondback mouse right now and did a reboot, its quite fast and stuff but how can i test it? how can i see the hz its using? or the dpi its using?
[10:18] <meshuggahaddict> yes 7.10
[10:18] <meshuggahaddict> i believe it is hardware, it is an old card
[10:18] <ifireball> rhetoric: I don't want you losing connectivity because of syntax errors in the file...
[10:18] <wols_> what is the problem?
[10:19] <meshuggahaddict> it used to lock up on 6 and now it seems that the polys skins are wrong color and image
[10:19] <rhetoric> ifireball, is there a blank line between each entry?
[10:19] <wols_> sounds like hardware, so OT here
[10:19] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, just before and after the 4-line clause
[10:19] <meshuggahaddict> thats what i thought, its an ATI 8500
[10:19] <rhetoric> ifireball, that's what i meant, between each interface right?
[10:20] <ifireball> rhetoric: yes.
[10:20] <rhetoric> so between the 2 "lo" lines and the eth1 line, then between that and my 4 new lines
[10:20] <ifireball> rhetoric: yes.
[10:20] <rhetoric> k restarting
[10:21] <lesshaste_> I don't know if something has broken on my system but can anyone play ftp://ftp.aduni.org/videos/11_lect_02.rm
[10:21] <rhetoric> ifireball, it's trying to release 10.88.0.1 port 67
[10:21] <rhetoric> ifireball, and it failed and fell back on it, lemme pastebin
[10:21] <ifireball> rhetoric: that's ok its reconfiguring eth1
[10:22] <edis6n> is there no chance to check my mouse polling rate?!
[10:23] <edis6n> or just the dpi ?
[10:23] <ifireball> rhetoric: if you can still connect from that machine we should be ok
[10:23] <rhetoric_> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/834620
[10:23] <rhetoric> ifireball, i kinda see what happened, but i dont understand why
[10:23] <frederick85> how do I enable 3d mode for intel driver
[10:23] <evan__> hey i rebooted and nvidia was not in lsmod i did "modprobe nvidia" and it came in lsmod but i still aint got the driver working
[10:24] <Wander_w> evan__: ok, so now you might have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:24] <ifireball> rhetoric: essentially your ISP didn't accept the release packet, it doesn't matter you got the IP back anyway, lets see how your "ifconfig" looks now
[10:24] <AliTarihi> Hi! everybody. I have a problem with the Nvidia driver.
[10:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, exactly the same :(
[10:25] <Wander_w> evan__: look for a Driver line
[10:25] <Buyydee> evan_ & wander_w: try doing this via sudo nvidia-settings, simplified it in my case
[10:25] <evan__> ok
[10:25] <edis6n> no gamers here? :(
[10:25] <AliTarihi> I managed to set up the driver. It is working .
[10:25] <Wander_w> evan__: it should say Driver "nvidia"
[10:25] <tarzeau> i play www.sauerbraten.org, edis6n
[10:25] <Wander_w> evan__: don't change lines that say Driver "mouse" !
[10:26] <AliTarihi> But  hibernate suspend works. But once I logout, the Text mode is in mess!
[10:26] <rhetoric> ifireball, should i be able to connect via that 10.whatever ip?
[10:26] <Wander_w> evan__: or your mouse will stop working
[10:26]  * nomentero is away: No estoy:-(
[10:26] <edis6n> well, tarzeau do u know how to check your mouse polling rate or dpi ?
[10:26] <tarzeau> edis6n: nope sorry, maybe with xset
[10:26] <edis6n> tarzeau, im not sure i want to see, is it really running on 1800 dpi now..  ;)
[10:26] <evan__> Wander_w : Driver         "nvidia"
[10:27] <Wander_w> evan__: It might indeed be easier using nvidia-settings, as Buyydee suggested
[10:27] <ifireball> rhetoric: not yet, lets see how does the interfaces looks like right now, if you're not seeing eth1:1 in ifconfig then it didn't work yet
[10:27] <Wander_w> evan__: that's good
[10:27] <AliTarihi> ?
[10:27] <edis6n> tarzeau, sauerbraten.. is it something like warsow or nexuiz?
[10:27] <tarzeau> edis6n: just much better!
[10:27] <tarzeau> edis6n: http://krum.ethz.ch/sauerbraten/
[10:28] <Wander_w> evan__: if you stop X11, and as root do startx then what happens? Does it start X in nvidia mode?
[10:28] <evan__> Wander_w i only got an identifier and an drive in that section
[10:28] <rodolfo> people, whats the parameter to unzip a .tar.bz2 file? (sudo tar -??? file_name.tar.bz2)
[10:28] <Buyydee> that's my university tarzeau!
[10:28] <evan__> Wander_w ill try
[10:28] <edis6n> tarzeau, looks pretty good ofcourse
[10:28] <Wander_w> evan__: that is enough
[10:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, did you look at the last pastebin of my restart?
[10:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, it didn't work for sure
[10:29] <tarzeau> Buyydee: which?
[10:29] <frederick85> i don't think ubuntu is hardcore enough for me
[10:29] <Wander_w> rodolfo: tar jxpvf <thefile.tar.bz2>
[10:29] <AliTarihi> Anyone?
[10:29] <Buyydee> tarzeau: ethz.ch - federal institute of technology zurich
[10:29] <tarzeau> Buyydee: ah nice, where at there are you?
[10:29] <ifireball> rhetoric: yeah, like I said its looks ok, just some braindead-ISP BS, see if "sudo ifup eth1:1" works for you
[10:29] <Wander_w> frederick85: Buy a tomtom, go crosscompiling you own distribution for ARM from scratch, that might be hardcore enough for you :)
[10:30] <Buyydee> tarzeau: studying chemical engineering in 5th semestre at the hci on the hoenggerberg
[10:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, it must have something to do with the "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[10:30] <frederick85> Wander_w: I was thinking gentoo/freebsd
[10:30] <frederick85> I'v done that beofre
[10:30] <frederick85> it was good
[10:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, should that be eth1:0 or go *after* my 4 lines?
[10:30] <tarzeau> Buyydee: oh just wait 5 mintues, i'll show you something
[10:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: yeah, you're getting IP from the ISP via DHCP,its as it should be
[10:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, just type that on the console
[10:30] <Buyydee> tarzeau: i'll be here
[10:31] <rodolfo> Wander_w, thanks
[10:31] <frederick85> Wander_w: I just find ubuntu doesn't pass the time for me but compiling does
[10:31] <rhetoric> ifireball, it says it's already configured, but it's not in ifconfig
[10:31] <Wander_w> frederick85: What? a complete distro whit all the packages allready there? how softcore
[10:31] <edis6n> tarzeau, i download that game now :P i see already 4700 other people did the same
[10:31] <ifireball> rhetoric: paste "ifconfig" plz, also paste "ifconfig eth1:1"
[10:32] <frederick85> Wander_w: I think 50% of the packages don't work so I will have to fix them myself
[10:32] <Wander_w> frederick85: ok, have fun
[10:33] <rhetoric_> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/834628
[10:34] <rhetoric> ifireball: what does my ISP have to do with it?
[10:35] <Wander_w> nothing, but we'd like to see your IP and steal your pr0n with it :P
[10:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_: your ISP gives you the config you're getting for eth1 in order to get online
[10:35] <newubuntu> hi all ... im trying to install amsn buti need tcltls .. who can tell me how to install it?
[10:35] <tarzeau> Buyydee: recognize your building here? http://gnu.ethz.ch/photos/panorama/
[10:35] <rhetoric> ifireball: but what does that have to do with my static assingment (which is local yea?)
[10:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_: no it doesn't; anyway, paste the interfaces file, we may have got something wrong there
[10:36] <Wander_w> newubuntu: apt-get install amsn
[10:36] <Buyydee> tarzeau: i do, are you in the applied math tower?
[10:36] <neopsych1> .
[10:36] <ifireball> rhetoric: "networking restart" is the equivalent of rebooting the whole network configuration so it reconfigures all the interfaces
[10:37] <newubuntu> Wander_w if i do apt-get install amsn ubuntu says me i need tcltls
[10:37] <rhetoric> ifireball, i got that much i just dont see what my ISP has to do with me assigning a local IP?
[10:37] <rhetoric> ifireball, and what is this 10.88.0.1
[10:38] <ifireball> rhetoric: it doesn't, the messages you saw had to do with the dynamic IP not the static one we're setting up right now
[10:38] <rhetoric_> ifireball: http://pastebin.ca/834634
[10:38] <ifireball> rhetoric: 10.88.0.1 must be the ISPs DHCP server
[10:38] <rhetoric> ifireball: well does my trying to use a 10.* locally screw that up? maybe i should use 192.*?
[10:38] <Wander_w> newubuntu: I think you need the "universe" repositories enabled
[10:39] <tarzeau> Buyydee: physics department
[10:39] <ifireball> rhetoric: no it doesn't, anyway is there a blank line after line 09 in the file?
[10:40] <Buyydee> tarzeau: well, nice to know you :) i just got to get back to work now, i'm going to be idle here for some time
[10:40] <rhetoric_> ifireball: doh, yes
[10:40] <tarzeau> Buyydee: that's fine, nice to meet you
[10:40] <ThreeFingerPete> hello. can someone inform me as to a more featuresque irc client than xchat
[10:41] <ifireball> rhetoric: just checking since it doesn't appear so in the paste... lets try "sudo ifdown eth1:1" and then "sudo ifup eth1:1"
[10:41] <rhetoric_> ifireball: OMG im dumb there was an "auto eth1" like 20 lines down somehow
[10:41] <rhetoric_> i put it above the iface eth1 and restarting now
[10:42] <Wander_w> newubuntu: open adept ("add/remove programs") , click "edit software sources" and check the "Community maintained Open Source software (universe)" option. Check the other options ass well if you want.
[10:42] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: I use Pidgin
[10:44] <ThreeFingerPete> Thanks Wander_w, I did too, but for some reason it no longer connects me to channels
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> however, it works fine for msn and yahoo..
[10:45] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: Go to Buddies -> Join a chat ?
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> nods. it all seems to work but then i get an empty channel.
[10:45] <rhetoric_> ifireball: still same ifconfig :( new error at the end of restart "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address"
[10:45] <ThreeFingerPete> will try again.. excuse me if i vanish...
[10:46] <Wander_w> ThreeFingerPete: Strange... are your accounts set up correctly? (ctrl-a)
[10:46] <ifireball> rhetoric: lets try "sudo ifdown eth1:1" and then "sudo ifup eth1:1"
[10:46] <ThreeFingerPete> nods.
[10:47] <rhetoric_> ifireball: ok sec
[10:47] <rhetoric_> ifireball: both return the same error i just pasted :(
[10:47] <ThreeFingerPete> something was acting up with /j #
[10:47] <ThreeFingerPete> seems to be ok now! thanks muchly Wander
[10:48] <Wander_w> np
[10:48] <ravi_> can someone plzz help me installing IE in ubuntu...
[10:48] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains . The logs say "Relay access denied" . Please point me in the right direction !!!
[10:49] <rhetoric_> ifireball: brb
[10:49] <ThreeFingerPete> What trouble are you having ravi?
[10:49] <ravi_> i have manged to download and have unpacked using tar command
[10:50] <ravi_> while installing IE 6
[10:50] <ravi_> says folders not found
[10:50] <rhetoric_> ifireball: back any ideas?
[10:50] <Wander_w> ravi_: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[10:51] <ravi_> wander_w : been there downloaded and unpacked.... during final stage of installation..getting err msg: folders not found
[10:52] <ThreeFingerPete> hmm. Ravi, that sounds more like an issue with wine than IE... perhaps someone with more experience with it than I.,.
[10:52] <rhetoric_> ifireball: could it have to do with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/123773
[10:53] <ifireball> rhetoric: yea, was on the phone
[10:53] <ravi_> ThreeFingetPete: oh..ok.. any ways cheers for your help
[10:53] <rhetoric_> ifireball: hmm nvm it works for them though, not working for me
[10:53] <evan^^> hey my xorg.conf gives nu errors and im on text mode now help:P
[10:54] <ifireball> rhetoric: it isn't in ifconfig yet?
[10:54] <abhi_> anyone know why i'm getting thrown into ##overflow when i'm trying to join ##php?
[10:54] <rhetoric_> ifireball no i got that same error
[10:54] <bentob0x> I'm looking for a list of laptops on which you can install Ubuntu
[10:54] <rhetoric_> ifireball: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[10:55] <Wander_w> bentob0x: Dell Latitude D820
[10:55] <Buyydee> bentobox: IBM/Lenovo T61p works out of the box
[10:55] <Wander_w> bentob0x: (because that is what I'm using)
[10:55] <ifireball> does "ifconfig eth1:1" still give you only 2-3 lines?
[10:55] <evan^^> Wander_W it gives errors now it cant initialise the nvidia kernel module
[10:55] <rhetoric_> ifireball, yea bingo
[10:55] <rhetoric_> ifireball: should it be eth1:0 ?
[10:56] <Wander_w> evan^^: are you using a driver downloaded from the nvidia website? or one from ubuntu?
[10:56] <Wander_w> evan^^: (don't install both on 1 system)
[10:56] <bentob0x> is there no list online?  I'd like to go shopping this pm but with the wide range of laptops they offer, a list would be welcome for me to check that Ubuntu works on it
[10:56] <evan^^> Wander_w from nvidia website the restricted module drive gave errors to and diddnt have hardware acceleration
[10:57] <Wander_w> evan^^: did you remove the ubuntu version?
[10:57] <ifireball> rhetoric: hmm... could be... try that
[10:57] <linuxfce> has anyone here tried using the avant window manager (docker program)?
[10:57] <ifireball> rhetoric: afaik it shouldn't matter, but who knows
[10:57] <Wander_w> bentob0x: make a list of laptops that you like, then go check online if anyone has ubuntu working on it
[10:58] <zimon> bentob0x, there are many lists .. like http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
[10:58] <flick> hi i am downloading the game Scorched 3D
[10:58] <evan^^> Wander_w yes but i have have installed nvidia-glx-new yesterday when i had this same problem
[10:58] <rhetoric_> ifireball:
[10:58] <flick> but i do not know how to play the game, Scorched 3D
[10:58] <rhetoric_> ifireball: still the same deal :(
[10:58] <Wander_w> evan^^: and did you remove that one?
[10:58] <linuxfce> dell xps m1330 is a good linux laptop. i got media buttons, webcam, sound, mic, dual mic array (in lcd), bluetooth, wifi, and remote control working perfectly
[10:59] <linuxfce> and it was easy
[10:59] <evan^^> Wander_W yes i have removed nvidia-glx-new
[10:59] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, lets try a manual hack "sudo ifconfig eth1:0 up 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[10:59] <Wander_w> evan^^: and after that you installed the package from nvidia?
[10:59] <rhetoric_> ifireball: lol same error message
[11:00] <rhetoric_> ifireball: oooooh but now it seems to have worked
[11:00] <rhetoric_> ifireball: buggy as hell eh?
[11:01] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains . The logs say "Relay access denied" . Someone Please Help !!!
[11:01] <linuxfce> use envy for nvidia, its all automated and easy
[11:01] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yeah, too much attention going in to simple wireless laptops now days, they get the more complex stuff wrong...
[11:01] <evan^^> Wander_w yes i just chekced it
[11:01] <francis> ooops a typo
[11:01] <rhetoric_> ifireball: 2 boxes same OS wired into a basic hub is pretty gd simple lol
[11:01] <francis> hi I have a postfix server server set up, It accepts mail for all the virtual domains but does not send mails from the hosted virtual domains .  But while I try and sent a mail from the hosted domain I get  "Relay access denied" . Someone Please Help !!!
[11:02] <rhetoric_> ifireball: did you see the launchpad bug i linked? this is definetely a reproduction
[11:02] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yeah, but static virtual IPs on onterfaces that already have DHCP IPs isn't.
[11:02] <evan^^> Wander_W how could i make it innitialize?
[11:02] <ifireball> rhetoric_: not really, they got some different results, but its a hint indeed
[11:02] <rhetoric_> ifireball: no now i got the error, and mine is working
[11:03] <rhetoric_> ifireball i wonder why it doesnt work unless i do it manually like that though
[11:03] <Wander_w> evan^^: Uhm... I'm kind of running out of ideas here
[11:03] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, ok, but now I have doubts whether this setup is rebootable...
[11:03] <Wander_w> evan^^: Is there anything in dmesg?
[11:03] <rhetoric_> ifireball: does it have anything to do with the "auto *" lines in the interfaces file?
[11:04] <evan^^> Wander_W do you mean a fresh install is the best idea?
[11:04] <evan^^> :P
[11:04] <rhetoric_> what does "auto eth1" do exactly
[11:05] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, the "auto" tells it to try setting up the interface when you start/stop networking rather then just when you issue manual ifup/down commands
[11:05] <wols_> rhetoric_: it runs "ifup eth1" when /etc/init.d/networking is started
[11:05] <ifireball> rhetoric_: essentially its supposed to make the interface start up on boot
[11:06] <rhetoric_> ifireball: also do i need a "broadcast' line
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: but we've already seen it doesn't quite work as advertised... (it used to, god damnit...)
[11:06] <rhetoric_> ifireball, lol :)
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: no you don't need it
[11:06] <ifireball> rhetoric_: anyway, lets put that aside for now, and go to the other machine
[11:06] <rhetoric_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/114457
[11:07] <rhetoric_> another similar bug
[11:07] <rhetoric_> ifireball: ok what on the other machine
[11:08] <ifireball> rhetoric_: same thing basically only "eth0:0" if i remember correctly and 10.0.0.2 for IP
[11:09] <ifireball> rhetoric_: and hope gusty handles it better...
[11:09] <rhetoric> ifireball hehe
[11:10] <lesshaste_> can you get ntfs-3g support in gutsy gibbon?
[11:11] <ifireball> rhetoric: anycase I gtg in about 20minuts so lets step on it
[11:11] <linuxfce> isnt ntfs-3g installed by default in gutsy?
[11:11] <rhetoric> ifireball, same error but it came up in ifconfig first try on restart
[11:11] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, I don't know.. how would I check?.
[11:11] <lesshaste_> also.. how do I tell the version number of an installed package?
[11:11] <linuxfce> in terminal type ntfs-3g
[11:12] <rhetoric> ifireball, i can ping the other box
[11:12] <linuxfce> see what it says
[11:12] <ifireball> rhetoric: cool, now see if you can ping the other machine's IP
[11:12] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, thanks.. that gave some info
[11:12] <linuxfce> i have ntfs-3g running automatically, my ntfs drive has read write at boot
[11:12] <lesshaste_> linuxfce, cool
[11:12] <rhetoric> ifireball, yes
[11:12] <ifireball> rhetoric_: great, lets setup some hostnames, edit /etc/hosts
[11:12] <linuxfce> do you need to know how to use it?
[11:13] <ifireball> rhetoric_: put the other machine's IP and name in each machine's file
[11:13] <rhetoric> ifireball, mounted!
[11:14] <linuxfce> ntfs-3g is good, does anyone know if theres a performance loss using ntfs-3g vs. a native ext3?
[11:14] <rhetoric> ifireball it was already there as 127.0.0.1 ?
[11:14] <rhetoric> ifireball could i have used that the whole time?
[11:15] <rhetoric> ifireball GOD i must be tired ignore that
[11:15] <rhetoric> ifireball mixing hostnames up of course and not reading
[11:15] <ifireball> rhetoric: no no no, don't touch that line, each machine sees itself as 127.0.0.1
[11:15] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, ntfs suffers from fragmentation while the ext formats do not
[11:16] <ThreeFingerPete> that is, ext3 doesnt need a defrag every so often
[11:16] <linuxfce> hmm, thats odd, i wonder how ext manages to not get fragmented
[11:16] <linuxfce> how can i defrag my ntfs in linux?
[11:16] <ifireball> rhetoric: REPEAT for emphases: DO NOT TOUCH THE 127.0.0.1 LINE, its important
[11:16] <ThreeFingerPete> odd but nice, right?
[11:16] <scguy318> linuxfce: you don't
[11:16] <linuxfce> yes, nice
[11:16] <scguy318> linuxfce: you do it on Windows
[11:16] <linuxfce> i dont have windows, and dont want it
[11:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, i got it i see now i was just having a slow moment ;)
[11:17] <linuxfce> oh well thats just my movies, mp3s, etc. nothing that needs performance
[11:17] <scguy318> linuxfce: unfortunately that's the only choice, remember that stable NTFS on Linux took about 10 years ;)
[11:17] <ifireball> you should config nfs with names rather then IPs so its easier to move around if you ever have to
[11:17] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, look for a aftermarket defrag for windows. it will run, restart the computer and defrag it outside windows. it will work much better
[11:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, now just the fstab and hoping the feisty box is nice on reboot ya?
[11:18] <scguy318> linuxfce: as for ext, its the way it stores data I think
[11:18] <scguy318> !defrag
[11:18] <ifireball> well, if you got the mounts and /etc/hosts.allow working, then yeah
[11:18] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[11:18] <ake21285> ciao a tuti
[11:19] <scguy318> !it | ake21285
[11:19] <ubotu> ake21285: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:19] <rhetoric_> ifireball, do i need to setup hosts.allow when i used the gui to "share" the folder?
[11:19] <ake21285> ok thank you
[11:20] <ake21285> sorry..i'm a new user
[11:20] <linuxfce> i dont know why ubuntu doesnt run ntfs-3g mounting by default for all ntfs partitions
[11:20] <lesshaste_> how do you list the files in some package? Can apt-cache do that?
[11:20] <ifireball> rhetoric_: don't trust the GUI to keep you secure, as it is right now, ppl can probably mount your NFS over the internet
[11:20] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, if you right click mycomputer, then advanced, then performance...settings..then advanced in that..
[11:20] <rtz779> lesshaste_: dpkg -L packagename
[11:20] <linuxfce> i just umounted the ntfs partition, then remounted it with ntfs-3g. from then on it mounted it that way from boot. that was cool.
[11:21] <lesshaste_> rtz779, that doesn't work unless it's on your hard drive right? I was hoping apt-cache could do it
[11:21] <rhetoric_> ifireball: lol well it asked me what IP/host to allow in the gui
[11:21] <ifireball> rhetoric: you need to make sure /etc/exports enables access only from specific IPs, and that /etc/hosts.allow does that as well
[11:21] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, if you right click mycomputer, then advanced, then performance...settings..then advanced in that.. and change beside Virutal memory.. you can set your cache size to zero, which is that huge block you see near the end of the partition when you defrag.
[11:21] <rtz779> lesshaste_: no
[11:21] <rhetoric_> ifireball,what am i looking for in exports
[11:22] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:22] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:22] <ifireball> rhetoric: and you need to make sure the "ALL: PARANOID" line is in /etc/hosts.deny and not commented
[11:22] <ThreeFingerPete> linuxfce, that is safe to do, but you will want to turn it back on later. I did that when I first installed ubuntu. once the install was done i went back and turned it on, and windows moved it.
[11:22] <lesshaste_> rtz779, yes... apt-cache show pkgname
[11:22] <lesshaste_> rtz779, :)
[11:22] <hamid11771> HI ALL
[11:23] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:23] <ThreeFingerPete> hi hamid11771
[11:23] <fedler> hamid11771
[11:23] <linuxfce> there is no prefetch on my ntfs partition because there was never an os on it
[11:23] <rtz779> akram: do not spam
[11:23] <ifireball> rhetoric_: you should see the other host's IP before the option brackets
[11:23] <ifireball> rhetoric_: sees macd's example in his post
[11:24] <linuxfce> if there were an easy way to convert it to ext i would, but i dont feel like hassling it
[11:24] <rtz779> lesshaste_: apt-cache show pkgname lists you all files in the package?
[11:24] <Retro`> hello
[11:24] <rhetoric_> ifireball, i have done absolutely nothing after install to secure these machines :( mostly because i dont care (no sensitive data, really)
[11:24] <linuxfce> ntfs-3g works so damn well. really impressive
[11:24] <lesshaste_> rtz779, I hope so...
[11:24] <rtz779> lesshaste_: i thought it would just give detailed info about the package but not its files
[11:24] <menllyos> i got a question, i use firestarter to setup the iptables, and now i just set it to use the outbound policy: restrictive by default. my event log is now going crazy though with stuff thats being blocked (1 block every second orso). Is this normal behaviour or should i jsut put it back on policy: permissive by default ?
[11:24] <scguy318> rhethoric_: but think of the potential criminal liability :P
[11:24] <rhetoric_> ifireball, both deny and allow are totally empty files?
[11:24] <ifireball> rhetoric_: well, its pretty secure out of the box since no services are installed by default
[11:24] <Retro`> I have install GRIP to rip my music CD's into mp3's but i have a problem... GRIP does not recognize that a CD is mounted
[11:25] <ifireball> rhetoric_: hmm, umount, then start filling them up as per to macd's example
[11:25] <Retro`> a.k.a. no songs are displayed in GRIP once the CD is inserted in the CD-ROM drive
[11:25] <lesshaste_> rtz779, I see what you mean... is there a better command?
[11:25] <Vorbote> menllyos: if you haqve set up any kind of p2p servlet your putbound connections would be plenty
[11:25] <ifireball> rhetoric: then try to mount again (it'll probably no work on 1st attempt)
[11:26] <menllyos> yea but i already assigned those ports as ¨safe¨
[11:26] <Retro`> help
[11:26] <rtz779> lesshaste_: i think there is no command to list the files of an uninstalled package
[11:26] <rhetoric_> ifireball, he just has allow, and how would someone access it with the ip restriction in the export file?
[11:26] <bentob0x> thx zimon and Wander_afk
[11:26] <lesshaste_> rtz779, damn
[11:26]  * Vorbote is learning a new keyboard layout so bear with him ;-)
[11:26] <rtz779> lesshaste_: why do you need this?
[11:26] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:26] <rtz779> akram: please do not spam
[11:26] <lesshaste_> rtz779, to try to work out exactly what will be installed
[11:26] <rhetoric_> ifireball, the hosts.deny file doesnt even exist i dont have an example to work from
[11:27] <ThreeFingerPete> i'm out. nice to meet you all.
[11:27] <Retro`> i have set the 'Cdrom device' in GRIP config to be '/dev/cdrom' but that doesn't seem to work
[11:27] <ifireball> rhetoric_: they can't access the share but they can still fuck with the other NFS bits since they answer requests, the hosts.allow/deny files prevents them from talking to "strangers"
[11:27] <Retro`> please help
[11:27] <Retro`> how can i determine my Cdrom device ?
[11:27] <ompaul> !language | ifireball
[11:27] <ubotu> ifireball: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:28] <Retro`> i have, however, two cdrom devices...
[11:28] <rhetoric_> ifireball: what do i need in deny and could this affect other services (like downloading my democracy now torrents ;p)
[11:28] <ifireball> rhetoric: just put "ALL: PARANOID<newline>" in it
[11:28] <Retro`> how can i lookup in which Cdrom device is the CD with the music in?
[11:28] <Retro`> /dev/cdrom
[11:29] <Retro`> /dev/cdrom0 perhaps   ??
[11:29] <ifireball> rhetoric_: it'll only effect services that support the allow/deny files, I don't think *torrent does
[11:29] <Retro`> hello!
[11:29] <Retro`> help already
[11:29] <rhetoric_> ifireball: any other services i should know about that it will affect?
[11:29] <Vorbote> !help | ubotu
[11:29] <ubotu> ubotu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:30] <hamid11771> I have a data base and its reporting in MS-ACCESS 2007 , can I use it in openoffice ?
[11:30] <Retro`> /dev/hdc perhaps   ??
[11:30] <Retro`> HEY!!!!
[11:30] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:30] <Vorbote> !ask | Retro
[11:30] <ubotu> Retro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:30] <menllyos> Vorbote: thanks for that tip... i shut down deluge and now my log is pretty much dead
[11:30] <ifireball> rhetoric_: basically classic UNIX ones, ssh, ftp, http, etc.
[11:30] <Retro`> i did ask you moron!!
[11:30] <Retro`> fuck you all!!
[11:30] <Vorbote> !ops
[11:30] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[11:31] <rhetoric_> ifireball: gotcha
[11:31] <Extravert> someones angry
[11:31] <rhetoric_> ifireball: but not basic TCP or UDP traffic
[11:31] <akram> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[11:31] <Vorbote> ompaul: the guy just left the room, after cursing us all
[11:31] <Extravert> he banned him
[11:31] <ompaul> Vorbote, I know and on that IP he won't be back
[11:31] <ompaul> for a while
[11:32] <Vorbote> :-)
[11:32] <ifireball> rhetoric: no, its not a firewall, its just a way of telling apps to accept connections from certain addresses or not
[11:32] <rhetoric_> ifireball: k im pretty sure i understand
[11:32] <hamid11771>  I have a data base and its reporting in MS-ACCESS 2007 , can I use it in openoffice ?
[11:32] <rhetoric_> ifireball: and the fstab is to mount at startup yes?
[11:33] <ifireball> rhetoric_: yes
[11:33] <fwar> join #ubuntu-sa/
[11:33] <anton_>  how to delete a folder as root?
[11:33] <rhetoric_> ifireball, one last thing i know you have to go: what are the settings rw,no_root_squash,async,subtree_check
[11:33] <linuxfce> why is it that ubuntu makes me deal with restricted drivers. why cant this noob distro treat me like a noob and not be so gpl righteous
[11:34] <ifireball> rhetoric_: though I don't like that approach when it comes to nfs, if can behave badly if the machine ever becomes unavailable
[11:34] <linuxfce> what approach?
[11:34] <ace_> heya
[11:34] <ace_> been awhile since i used ubuntu
[11:34] <ompaul> anton_, you are going to break your machine I will pm it to you
[11:34] <rhetoric_> ifireball: this machine will be unavailable often, should i just make a script to mount it when i want to?:
[11:34] <ace_> been gentoo'in it up
[11:34] <ifireball> rhetoric_: just put (rw) to make it read/writable you probaly don't need the rest
[11:34] <rhetoric_> ifireball: because it's a laptop and all
[11:34] <ace_> prolly gonna install that agian next
[11:35] <linuxfce> gentoo.. i dont like the whole from source procedure for every dang thing
[11:35] <anton_> Never mind, I found it out.
[11:35] <linuxfce> arch is more fun
[11:35] <anton_> Only deleted a song in frets of fire
[11:35] <myke54142> linuxfce, yup overkill
[11:35] <ace_> nah sources is great
[11:35] <anton_> thanks ompaul
[11:35] <ifireball> rhetoric_:just put "user" in the options column in fstab
[11:36] <linuxfce> it is great, but i like having a choice
[11:36] <ifireball> rhetoric_: then you can simply mount it manually with "mount /your/mount/point" as a normal user
[11:36] <myke54142> i usually use freebsd and never got why gentoo was such a big deal, with freebsd you usually do binary but you can easily rebuild both the core system and all packages from source
[11:37] <linuxfce> mount /dev/device /yourmountpoint
[11:37] <myke54142> i guess most linux distros weren't set up that way
[11:37] <ifireball> rhetoric_: in anycase don't include the "no_root_squash" bit, its terribly insecure and you probably don't need it
[11:37] <Jordan_U> myke54142, Gentoo is based off of BSD ports
[11:37] <linuxfce> yeah thats where im at, source is fine with me, but dont force me to waste my time installing everything from source
[11:37] <myke54142> exactly
[11:38] <myke54142> i have a kiosk system on top of a gentoo with a broken gcc
[11:38] <ompaul> myke54142, most of them go for packages you can verify - and are using things like apt or rpm to manage and install the programs
[11:38] <myke54142> anyone who loves gentoo should be forced to use it
[11:38] <linuxfce> the whole "dont you want to know what you're getting" thing doesnt apply either, unless you can read all the code youre installing
[11:38] <linuxfce> gosh, imagine dep hell in gentoo. every damn dep
[11:39] <ompaul> myke54142, a tad offtopic for here :)
[11:39] <Vorbote> myke54142: this is offtopic, but the difference is the port architecture, I love FBSD but if I need linux I rather use Debian or a derivative like Ubuntu (that rocks on my laptop, btw) ;-)
[11:39] <myke54142> i built my own linux system from LFS when i needed a very custom system, and that was fun, but i wouldn't do it for your average system either
[11:39] <ompaul> myke54142, we do have a #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff such as this ;-)
[11:39] <rhetoric> ifireball, i think i can get it from here thank you SO much
[11:39] <linuxfce> nobody chats in those subchannels
[11:40] <scguy318> and when they do, its about cake or something random
[11:40] <ompaul> linuxfce, it is very very busy 85.314259% of the time
[11:40] <linuxfce> thats kinda the point
[11:40] <ifireball> rhetoric_: one more: you have a server-grade kind of setup now, it can give you awsome performance, you you sould really UNDERSTAND what you did, I really recommend reading the manpages for everything
[11:40] <rhetoric> ifireball, wait will everything in fstab be loaded at boot or what?
[11:41] <rhetoric> ifireball i dont want them to mount at boot because it wont always be connected, rather i'd like to mount via a script
[11:42] <marsmissions> Does anybody know how to get video to play with composite on using the latest FGLRX driver from the amd website?
[11:42] <ifireball> rhetoric: only lines in fstab that contain the "auto" option are mounted by default (I thing the "defaults" keyword includes it), if you put "user" instead it won't
[11:42] <rhetoric> ifireball ok now i get it, thanks :)
[11:42] <Jordan_U> marsmissions,
[11:43] <Jordan_U> marsmissions, Don't use xv output
[11:43] <ifireball> rhetoric_: you don't need a script, /etc/fstab was designed to be a shortcut for mounting
[11:43] <marsmissions> Jordan_U: what would I put in xorg.conf to not do that?
[11:44] <Jordan_U> marsmissions, Nothing, it's an option of the player, to change totem-gstreamer run "gstreamer-properties"
[11:44] <linuxfce> whos got the best eye candy
[11:45] <tuxick> whoa
[11:45] <marsmissions> thanks
[11:45] <myke54142> i've got the least eye candy
[11:45] <tuxick> any chance getting flash working on 64bit kubuntu?
[11:46] <tuxick> 'adept' fails totally, downloaded the installer and that says there's no 64 bit support
[11:46] <ompaul> tuxick, do yourself a favour and if you want to put it on a system make it 32bit you don't need the pain
[11:46] <Jordan_U> tuxick, Yes, you should be able to just visit a page that needs it in Firefox and let it set it up
[11:46] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:46] <tuxick> ompaul: *still*?
[11:46] <tuxick> i've avoided 64 bit for over a year :)
[11:47] <ompaul> tuxick, I will not stop until all the codecs are all native and they are not
[11:47] <tuxick> in fact i have a 64bit gentoo box here with flash working
[11:47] <ace_> lol im happy
[11:47] <ompaul> tuxick, so enjoy yourself
[11:47] <tuxick> thanks :)
[11:47] <ace_> got my atheros working AR5007
[11:47] <Proteus> So I've  run into my first serious x/k/o/ubuntu problem that I haven't been able to fix myself. I've been trying to rebuild a collection of important files off a bunch of drives from a workstation that died and I had been successfully using a generic hard drive enclosure that would automagically mount all the volumes I needed. Problem is, now I'm not getting _anything_ when I plug it in. iv or gnome-volume-manager might flare up for a secon
[11:47] <Proteus> d, but then nothing happens. The magic smoke got out of my computer and I desperately need help!
[11:48] <ace_> plus it has the aircrack injection patch ;)
[11:48]  * nomentero is back (gone 01:22:48)
[11:48] <tuxick> Jordan_U: such sites only provide a link to the download site
[11:49] <tuxick> which provides an installer telling me i have 64 bit
[11:49] <Myrtti> !away | nomentero
[11:49] <ubotu> nomentero: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[11:49] <rhetoric> ifireball, in hosts.allow is it rpc.mountd or mountd or does that matter?
[11:50] <Proteus> anyone with even just pointers to where I could find help would be incredibly helpful.
[11:50] <rhetoric> ifireball, also i just meant a script for the one line to mount it because im that lazy :)
[11:50] <Vorbote> Proteus: maybe yor partitions are toast. Try with gpart and ddrescue.
[11:50] <No`> hi all
[11:50] <Proteus> but how do I do that on a partition I can't see?
[11:50] <linuxfce> oh sheize im getting sleepy
[11:51] <scguy318> Proteus: fdisk -l
[11:51] <Proteus> besides, xfs only gets bitchy if a write is in progress when it gets unmounted uncleanly and since no files were being transferred..... I don't think anything could have happened
[11:51] <scguy318> Proteus: *sudo fdisk -l
[11:52] <rhetoric> ifireball, or could i just do ALL: otherbox
[11:52] <Proteus> scguy318, I'm only seeing local drives here
[11:52] <Jordan_U_> tuxick, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#head-8786ac65f14f8d5685d016c5d5b6e927cee11f9d
[11:52] <scguy318> Proteus: hmm, anything of interest in dmesg | tail?
[11:52] <bliffle> is there an alternative to Flash? I hate having all those websites demanding I install proprietary software, since I figure some such screwed up my XP system.
[11:53] <JimmyDee> I know I'm gonna sound like a total idiot but whats the config control panel for the ati cards called?
[11:53] <scguy318> bliffle: Gnash, though I find in experience not so good
[11:53] <scguy318> JimmyDee: Catalyst or something
[11:53] <linuxfce> kde is so unreliable
[11:53] <scguy318> linuxfce: but GNOME so fat
[11:53] <_slacker_> hi guys! anyone knows how to change '1e+06' to '1000000' in a seq?
[11:53] <linuxfce> kde is more bloated as well
[11:53] <Jordan_U_> scguy318, And KDE isn't?
[11:54] <scguy318> Jordan_U_: lesser than GNOME :P
[11:54] <linuxfce> no its not
[11:54] <linuxfce> kde is more bloated than gnome
[11:54] <Wander_afk> who needs a window manager anyway +geometry FTW!
[11:54] <JimmyDee> scguy318: yes I know its catalyst, but whats the package>?
[11:54] <scguy318> linuxfce: ah, didn't know
[11:54] <JimmyDee> linuxfce: I thought I already fed you, get back under your bridge
[11:54] <B-rabbit> clear
[11:55] <linuxfce> seriously i dont know how people put up with kde, its so popular but so crappy
[11:55] <scguy318> JimmyDee: unfortunately not sure :(
[11:55] <ikonia> linuxfce: that is not your concern, nor is it this channels concern.
[11:55] <bliffle> so gnome and kde are fat and slow, how about Xfce?
[11:56] <linuxfce> xfce is light and fast, but it seems to me, that its a feature lacking gnome
[11:56] <Proteus> scguy318, ok, where do I paste what I think are the relevant lines for you?
[11:56] <Proteus> I'm an openbox fan
[11:56] <ompaul> linuxfce, you are offtoioc
[11:56] <scguy318> !pastebin | Proteus
[11:56] <ubotu> Proteus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:56] <linuxfce> window managers are very revelant to ubuntu
[11:56] <anton_> ompaul: how to copy/paste stuff through terminal?
[11:56] <ikonia> linuxfce: your ranting about fat/bloat is not
[11:56] <ikonia> anton_: highlight then middle mouse button into a new window
[11:57] <anton_> ikonia: No, must be root...
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: no you don't
[11:57] <anton_> yeah, I do.
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: if you can read it, you can cut and paste as a normal user
[11:57] <ikonia> anton_: you don't need to be root to cut and paste
[11:58] <anton_> "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[11:58] <cousin_luigi> hi
[11:58] <_slacker_> anton_, don't paste the \r :)
[11:58] <linuxfce> anton just use the root account
[11:58] <ikonia> anton_: paste in a place your user has permissions to, or use sudo
[11:58] <anton_> _slacker_: \r?
[11:58] <Vorbote> linuxfce: to be earnst, I'd be using a stepbuntu if there was one. I love Open/GNUstep. But GNOME does its thing quite well. Having used real NeXTstep boxes, I know windowmaker ain't the real thing.
[11:58] <linuxfce> using the root account makes the permission crap go away forever
[11:58] <ikonia> linuxfce: we don't recommend using the root user, sudo is the ubuntu solution.
[11:58] <anton_> ikonia: Hence my question: How to copy/paste through terminal?
[11:58] <cousin_luigi> how do I force a static DNS while using DHCP for IP?
[11:59] <ikonia> anton_: your question is "how do I write to a filesystem that is owned by root"
[11:59] <ompaul> anton_, you should not be pasting where you don't have write permissions
[11:59] <anton_> In my frets on fire map...
[11:59] <Myrtti> !supportroot > linuxfce
[11:59] <Proteus> scguy318, on second thought, I'm not actually seeing anything relevant to usb issues. I was looking at local crap and got mixed up.
[11:59] <ikonia> anton_: in which case you open the file you wish to paste to with sudo, but to be honest if you don't understand that, the chances are you shouldn't be editing that file as it's owned by the super user for a reason.
[11:59] <Vorbote> linuxfce: but the beauty of sudo is that it allows fine-grained admining. Been using it for 15 years.
[11:59] <Proteus> scguy318, so what next?
[11:59] <B-rabbit> anton_, "Ctrl + c" to copy and "Shift + Ctrl + v" to paste in terminal
[11:59] <linuxfce> hmm, i havent messed with that wm
[12:00] <linuxfce> so you've been typing your password, over, and over, and over, for 15 years
[12:00] <anton_> b-rabbit I meant how to move files from folders...
[12:00] <scguy318> Proteus: I would probably check your hardware or something
[12:00] <ikonia> linuxfce: you don't have to type your password if you setup sudo
[12:00] <Myrtti> linuxfce: you have to type in the root password too
[12:00] <Proteus> :-(
[12:00] <Myrtti> even worse
[12:00] <Vorbote> linuxfce: nope, I've been GOD for 15 years ;L.)
[12:00] <Myrtti> then you need to remember two passwords
[12:00] <anton_> ikonia: It's my computer....how to get in sudo mode, then?
[12:00] <scguy318> Proteus: getting late so I can't really say much more, might be totally off
[12:00] <bliffle> I'll readup on GNASH and try it, later
[12:00] <ikonia> anton_: type "sudo" before the command.
[12:00] <ikonia> anton_: be very careful though
[12:01] <B-rabbit> anton_, use "sudo mv <file> <destination>"
[12:01] <scguy318> Proteus: oh and the r in your name is truncated
[12:01] <anton_> gaaaaaah, ikonia: I know, but how to move files between folders then? aha!
[12:01] <anton_> thanks
[12:01] <ikonia> B-rabbit: he's not asking to move a file.
[12:01] <anton_> yeah I am B-rabbit
[12:01] <Vorbote> linuxfce: I do admit that sudo is a bother in a single user system.
[12:01] <Proteus> scguy318, what?
[12:01] <ikonia> anton_: what ?? you asked how to edit a file ?
[12:01] <anton_> ikonia*
[12:01] <anton_> no ikonia :)
[12:01] <scguy318> Proteus: you're missing an r in your name
[12:01] <anton_> I asked how to move
[12:01] <ompaul> anton_, you did ask
[12:01] <Proteus> scguy318, where?
[12:01] <linuxfce> and i do admit that not using root is clearly a better choice regarding security
[12:02] <ompaul> anton_, unless you have moved on - you were asking how to edit
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: Proteus is n=proteus@71-214-3-148.omah.qwest.net * Christophe
[12:02] <linuxfce> but i got nothing to hide, and im on linux, its not like im going to get a virus browsing the web
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: the real name field in your client
[12:02] <scguy318> Proteus: but I digress
[12:02] <linuxfce> if i were serious about security i would never use irc without a proxy
[12:02] <Proteus> scguy318, what does all this mean? should I fix something?
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: you're missing an r in your name :) you can fix the little typo if you want
[12:03] <Myrtti> !worksforme | linuxfce
[12:03] <ubotu> linuxfce: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: but yeah w/e :P
[12:03] <JimmyDee> all I really want is a brightness app for ati, is that too much to ask?
[12:03] <Vorbote> linuxfce: well, that's debatable, unless you only use it on the console.
[12:03] <ikonia> scguy318: we saw your comment the first time
[12:03] <ikonia> !offtopic | Vorbote
[12:03] <ubotu> Vorbote: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <B-rabbit> linuxfce, !offtopic
[12:03] <JimmyDee> Vorbote: youre feeding a troll
[12:03] <Proteus> scguy318, ooooh, you mean Christophe as opposed to Christopher?
[12:03] <ompaul> linuxfce, you have been told a couple of times you are offtopic the ops here are invisible but can jump out of the woodwork please stick to support questions and answers and off opinions
[12:03] <ikonia> guys, can we drop it please
[12:03] <Vorbote> JimmyDee: probably
[12:03]  * ace_ throws troll crumbs into the crowd
[12:03] <scguy318> Proteus: yes
[12:03] <Proteus> not a mistake
[12:03] <[Chief]> hey, i have problems with my networkcard. It's a RTL8211BL (nforce630a). During the installation of Ubuntu 7.10 Secer AMD64 she worked fine with the forcedeth driver, but after I boot the installed system the card doesn't work. The Kernel is 2.6.22-14-server (The install system of the CD runs the kernel 2.6.22-14-generic)
[12:04] <scguy318> Proteus: ah k
[12:04] <ikonia> anton_: why are you using the "/me" command after you've just seen the offtopic request.
[12:04] <scguy318> ikonia: I was answering his question, so not really repeating
[12:04] <anton_> ikonia: =
[12:04] <anton_> ?*
[12:04] <Vorbote> ikonia: in what sense? sudo is not offtopic, it is one of the main attacks on ubuntu adoption by old-timer linux linux/unix users.
[12:05] <Jordan_U> [Chief], Any reason you are using the server kernel?
[12:05] <ikonia> [Chief]: is the forcedeth driver being used on your server install.
[12:05] <ompaul> Vorbote, it is a support not chat channel
[12:05] <linuxfce> haha theres a worksforme, thats great. i'll respect that because i respect the developers who gave me this distro for nothing, and if thats how they wanted it so be it
[12:05] <Proteus> scguy318, do you think I should repost my question or ask someone/somewhere else?
[12:05] <scguy318> Proteus: go for it
[12:05] <ikonia> Vorbote: discussing the pros and cons of sudo and irc from a command line is nothing to do with it.
[12:05] <Myrtti> Vorbote: geezers can use other methods for using root
[12:05] <[Chief]> It automatically installed the server kernel
[12:05] <wols_> chii: fyi,RTL8211BL is a PHY and totally irrelevant for the OS. forcedeth is the one you need. is it loaded?
[12:05] <Vorbote> ompaul: I know, but warmth is a matter of ubuntu.
[12:05] <scguy318> Proteus: you'll probably find better luck that way :)
[12:05] <[Chief]> The boot process loads the forcedeth driver
[12:06] <Proteus> So, reposting and begging -  I've  run into my first serious x/k/o/ubuntu problem that I haven't been able to fix myself. I've been trying to rebuild a collection of important files off a bunch of drives from a workstation that died and I had been successfully using a generic hard drive enclosure that would automagically mount all the volumes I needed. Problem is, now I'm not getting _anything_ when I plug it in. iv or gnome-volume-manager
[12:06] <Proteus> might flare up for a second, but then nothing happens. The magic smoke got out of my computer and I desperately need help!
[12:06] <ompaul> Vorbote, discussion is OT we have OT for that
[12:06] <wols_> [Chief]: /sbin/ifconfig -a   what interfaces show up?
[12:06] <[Chief]> It throws a warning message; Somethin like MAC ist not valid, taking a random mac
[12:06] <Vorbote> Myrtti: I'm not a geezer yet, just an old fart.
[12:06] <ikonia> Proteus: what does the syslog say
[12:06] <Vorbote> ompaul, OOK
[12:06] <wols_> Proteus: dmesg spitting anything out?
[12:06] <ikonia> [Chief]: can you get the exact message please
[12:06] <Myrtti> Vorbote: and I'm a tiresome old hag who loves sudo ;-)
[12:07] <[Chief]> "/sbin/ifconfig -a " shows up a eth11 device (??) and the lo
[12:07] <ikonia> [Chief]: are you sure it's eth11 ?
[12:07]  * Vorbote hugs MYR
[12:07]  * Vorbote hugs Myrtti
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347384] forcedeth: using HIGHDMA
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347435] 0000:00:0a.0: Invalid Mac address detected: a7:19:94:7d:1d:00
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.347473] Please complain to your hardware vendor. Switching to a random MAC.
[12:07] <[Chief]> [   45.873882] eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01458:e000 bound to 0000:00:0a.0
[12:07] <rockzman> [Chief], ifconfig lo
[12:07] <Myrtti> !paste | [Chief]
[12:07] <ubotu> [Chief]: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <ikonia> rockzman: why would he ifconfig the loop back card ?
[12:08] <anton_> How to remove a folder from the terminal?
[12:08] <ompaul> [Chief], do not patse in this channel, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[12:08] <rockzman> ikonia, hes the one who knows the answer
[12:08] <rockzman> lol
[12:08] <aniac> hi!
[12:08] <ikonia> anton_: go to http://www.tldp.org and read the bash basics
[12:08] <Vorbote> [Chief]: I've seen that in dapper, it is a kernel thing
[12:08] <ikonia> anton_: it will teach you the basic commands needed in a shell
[12:08] <[Chief]> I jsut have setup teh eth11 device, and it works :-D
[12:08]  * etfb is amused that the complaints about the pasting of [Chief]'s logs took up nearly twice as much space as the pasting itself.
[12:08] <Proteus> ikonia, wols_ , nothing even shows up with I plug in the external drive
[12:08] <aniac> guys I need some help concerning charsets...
[12:08] <B-rabbit> anton_, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/basic-commands/C/
[12:09] <[Chief]> why is the network device called eth11?
[12:09] <ikonia> etfb: please stop with the /me commands
[12:09] <tuxick> ok this isn't going to work
[12:09] <ikonia> Proteus: is udevd running
[12:09] <wols_> chii: cause udev renamed it from eth0
[12:09] <Proteus> ikonia, wols_ , in dmesg, anyway
[12:09] <Vorbote> aniac: spill the goodswe ain't psychics}
[12:09] <Proteus> ikonia, yes
[12:09] <wols_> Proteus: are you sure the drive/enclosure is working?
[12:09]  * etfb thinks this channel is being rather overrun with (a) twits posting offtopic rubbish, and (b) bigger twits complaining about (a).  Byeee!
[12:09]  * Vorbote still learning his new keyboard
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> hey im having some problems with my games on kubuntu
[12:10] <Proteus> wols_, yeah, it worked one day then it just sort of stopped. the enclosure is brand new
[12:10] <ikonia> Proteus: do you have another usb device (anything) you can plug in to see if udevd actually picks up an event
[12:10] <aniac> Vorbote i'm not sure i understood what you mean but I'll try starting... :)
[12:10] <ikonia> Vorbote: can we PLEASE stop with the pointless me commands.
[12:10] <anton_> thanks!
[12:10] <ikonia> Vorbote: you can see this channel is very busy
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> FATAL: ssgInit called without a valid OpenGL context.
[12:10] <Proteus> ikonia, sure, should I just tail dmesg?
[12:10] <RandomShadowMan> can anyone help me get rid of that error?
[12:10] <aniac> well when I use amarok or exaile I can't see right song files which have their names in greek...
[12:10] <ikonia> Proteus: you can't tail dmesg, tail the syslog and plug in a device.
[12:11] <Vorbote> ikonia: yup, just tying to help with a Shacka the Sulu spirit.
[12:11] <wols_> Proteus: imho the hdd is gone to its maker
[12:11] <aniac> so maybe it's a matter of general environment config...
[12:11] <B-rabbit> RandomShadowMan, you have to be more specific?
[12:11] <wols_> Proteus: ex-hdd
[12:11] <aniac> not players'
[12:11] <ikonia> Vorbote: your failing and causing clutter in a busy channel, please stop
[12:11] <Vorbote> OK
[12:11] <RandomShadowMan> ok I have an nvidia geforce 8500GT and i want to be able to play these games like i was before
[12:12] <B-rabbit> RandomShadowMan, r u using wine?
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> no...
[12:12] <Proteus> well, how do I tail the syslog?
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> i mean games like supertux and supertuxkart
[12:12] <wols_> RandomShadowMan: glxinfo shows you have direct rendering?
[12:12] <scguy318> Proteus: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:12] <Proteus> right, of course. hang on
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> i ran it through the terminal to see why it wasnt starting up
[12:12] <RandomShadowMan> FATAL: ssgInit called without a valid OpenGL context.
[12:13] <Peeco> How can I get linux on a machine with no option to boot from usb or optical drive??
[12:13] <RandomShadowMan> comes out with that
[12:13] <wols_> Peeco: how can it boot?
[12:13] <wols_> Peeco: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[12:13] <scguy318> Peeco: any pre-existing OS on it?
[12:13] <aniac> any idea about charsets?
[12:13] <wols_> RandomShadowMan:  dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[12:13] <Peeco> Im running xp now
[12:13] <Proteus> scguy318, wols_, so syslog shows all the usb events I'd expect
[12:13] <wols_> aniac: not until you ask a sensible question we can answer
[12:13] <scguy318> Peeco: UNetBoot might do it
[12:13] <Vorbote> Peeco: you can't boot from USB if the BIOS doesn't allow it.}
[12:14] <ikonia> Proteus: thats correct it will show you the events when you plug/unplug a device
[12:14] <aniac> wols O described the problem above though...
[12:14] <Peeco> nope, unfortunately the bios doesnt allow
[12:14] <scguy318> Vorbote: well, yeah, he already said it couldn't do it :P
[12:14] <tuxick> do all unbuntus use this adept thing?
[12:14] <wols_> Proteus: with udev it should but only if the kernel log shows them first. krenel not recognizing the new device: nothing syslog can or will do
[12:14] <RandomShadowMan> http://pastebin.ca/834713
[12:14] <scguy318> tuxick: no, some of us use Synaptic
[12:14] <Jordan_U> tuxick, No, only Kubuntu
[12:14] <aniac> the problem is that I can't view correctly greek named mp3's when i use exaile / amarok
[12:14] <tuxick> is that worse or better?
[12:14] <ikonia> wols_: I'm asking him to tail the log with another device plugging in to see if any events are being picked up, or just that device
[12:14] <tuxick> ow i remember synaptic
[12:14] <Peeco> and my dvd drive is fooked!
[12:15] <wols_> aniac: cat /etc/environment
[12:15] <gabbah> do i need to mount my linux partition before i run grub setup?
[12:15] <Jordan_U> tuxick, You can use synaptic in KDE
[12:15] <scguy318> Peeco: so try UNetBoot
[12:15] <ikonia> Peeco: that language is uncalled for.
[12:15] <tuxick> Jordan_U: sure :)
[12:15] <Jordan_U> gabbah, No
[12:15] <wols_> ikonia: good idea, but kernel log doesn't care about udev or that jaczz. if usb device works, it is in demsg. if not...
[12:15] <ikonia> gabbah: no
[12:15] <Peeco> scguy318: ill have a look, thanks
[12:15] <gabbah> Jordan_U what happens if i do mount it first?
[12:15] <ikonia> wols_: only if usb ports are hunh
[12:15] <ikonia> hung
[12:15] <scguy318> Peeco: basically just installs a few files and a new entry in boot.ini, shows up in NTLDR, you boot to it, then you do a net install
[12:15] <tuxick> anyway, atm i really need to know if there's any chance on getting flash working at all
[12:15] <Peeco> ikonia: apologies, im new here
[12:16] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Nothing that I know of
[12:16] <ikonia> Peeco: your not, I've seen you in here before.
[12:16] <tuxick> without spending a day on incorrect instructions
[12:16] <Vorbote> scguy318: Try with a BIOS update with you maiinboard vendor, it may hekp
[12:16] <gabbah> Jordan_U what happens if i do mount it first? what i do is root (hd0,5) and then setup (hd0)... but it says it can't find the partition
[12:16] <tuxick> no flash will mean i try something else
[12:16] <scguy318> Vorbote: I'm not the one with a problem :P
[12:16] <aniac> wols_ thanks but htere is LANG="el_GR.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE="el_GR:el:en_GB:en" for language...
[12:16] <Jordan_U> gabbah, How may partitions do you have?
[12:16] <aniac> maybe changing utf-8 to iso?
[12:16] <scguy318> Vorbote: did you mean to address Peeco?
[12:17] <Peeco> ikonia: i joined yesterday under the alias peco1
[12:17] <wols_> aniac: do you see empty squares instead of letters in those apps?
[12:17] <Vorbote> scguy318: Yep, lost the trhead.
[12:17] <RandomShadowMan> what should i do?
[12:17] <Peeco> this was my first time!!
[12:17] <gabbah> Jordan_U I have 3 partitions. ntfs - ext3 - ntfs.  But the ext3 is called /dev/sda5
[12:17] <Peeco> latest bios doesnt allow also
[12:17] <Proteus> oh hey, I think the drive may have just been too hot
[12:17] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification
[12:17] <wols_> Peeco: there is a way but it's convoluted
[12:17] <Proteus> letting it cool off, then I'll try again
[12:17] <ikonia> Peeco: thats interesting my irc logs show the user Peeco from the BT address range your on being in here over the last month
[12:18]  * png is away: I'm busy
[12:18] <[Chief]> I have antother probelm with my network card :-( on each reboot the device is "renamed", so when teh device is eth14, on the next boot it is eth15 and so on
[12:18] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Why is it called that?
[12:18] <ikonia> !away > png
[12:18] <wols_> rsize windows partition to make free space. install wubi to windows partition, inside wubi ren debootstrap
[12:18] <gabbah> Jordan_U i mean, it says cannot mount selected partition, when i run setup
[12:18] <aniac> wols_ no, those are the two last lines and are exactly as i pasted there before..
[12:18] <png> !iknow_it_was_just_a_mistake > ikonia
[12:18] <IIronnick> ohohoooo
[12:18] <Jordan_U> gabbah, I think that is because you are giving it the wrong partition
[12:18] <gabbah> Jordan_U i don't know... it's always had that name.
[12:18] <Peeco> ikonia: that is strange, as i only just began investigating ubuntu yesterday!!
[12:19] <Microslave> [Chief]: are you using 'gnome-network-manager' to configure the device?
[12:19] <American-Tech> Does anybody here use mail notification (The program)
[12:19] <[Chief]> Microslave: There is no X, it's the server distribution
[12:19] <Peeco> wols: can you elaborate?
[12:19] <Jordan_U> gabbah, Is the ext3 partition the first, second, or third partition? Are they all primary?
[12:19] <tuxick> aha! found useful clues
[12:19] <gabbah> Jordan_U no matter what partition i give it in the root command, it always says cannot mount selected partition when i then run setup command
[12:19] <tuxick> http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.08.16/flash-and-64-bit-systems/
[12:20] <aniac> wols_ in general i use greek file names in other apps, but as in case of amarok/axaile there seems to be a problem...
[12:20] <tuxick> shame package managers don't do these things for you
[12:20] <gabbah> Jordan_U ext3 is the second. And i'm not sure about primary.. what does that mean?
[12:20] <aniac> in amarok i tried also changing the font but nothing changed
[12:20] <Jordan_U> tuxick, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#head-8786ac65f14f8d5685d016c5d5b6e927cee11f9d
[12:20] <scguy318> tuxick: flashplugin-nonfree actually does do the job, but it's broken at the moment
[12:20] <wols_> aniac: not all programs are multilanguage capabple
[12:20] <tuxick> scguy318: i noticed :)
[12:20] <scguy318> i think we have a factoid for that
[12:20] <Microslave> [Chief]: that's odd ... what NIC make/model is it?
[12:20] <tuxick> scguy318: and running manually didn't work either
[12:20] <scguy318> !brokenflash
[12:20] <wols_> [Chief]: ls /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent-net-generator.rules
[12:20] <ikonia> tuxick: you where in here yesterday and we talked about the flash plugin issues
[12:20] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:20] <tuxick> so i just copied the libs
[12:20] <ikonia> scguy318: flashissues
[12:21] <tuxick> ikonia: no i wasn't
[12:21] <frederick> how can I regenerate the xorg.conf file with dpkg again
[12:21] <scguy318> ikonia: synonym?
[12:21] <tuxick> i only booted this installation this morning ;)
[12:21] <ikonia> tuxick:  tuxick> no flash will mean i try something else
[12:21] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | frederick
[12:21] <ubotu> frederick: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[12:21] <ikonia> iios
[12:21] <ikonia> oops
[12:21] <tuxick> ikonia: that wasn't yesterday
[12:21] <ikonia> apoloogies
[12:21] <tuxick>  :)
[12:21] <ikonia> wrong paste
[12:21] <tuxick> anyway
[12:21] <wols_> Peeco: no. either you understand what I mean or you are too inexperienced to do it hosing your windows install. my advice is: buy a optical drive. DVDROMs cost less than 20 bucks
[12:22] <tuxick> except for adept being half broken kubuntu seems to meet requirements now
[12:22] <tuxick> it's meant for user desktops
[12:22] <scguy318> wols_: what of UNetBoot? is it too impractical for Peeco?
[12:22] <[Chief]> Microslave: Its a RTL8211BL ( Motehrbaod with nforce630a Chipset)
[12:22] <wols_> scguy318: since I don't know that thing, I dunno
[12:22] <[Chief]> wols_: This file exists, what should I do with it?
[12:23] <sigra> Hello,  I am not finding much help on google for this problem and wondering if someone here can help.  when I go to system sounds and click test sound capture it is giving me a error.  in return I am not getting sounds on certain apps.
[12:23] <frederick> i'm logged on as root nobody ghost me
[12:23] <wols_> [Chief]: move it elsewhere. it should stop the eth renaming.
[12:23] <gabbah> Jordan_U it seems u were right. it was partition number 4, instead of 5...
[12:23] <gabbah> Jordan_U well at least setup command worked.. let's see if i can boot now
[12:24] <aniac> wols hmmm but i think there should be a solution... especially amarok is too famous and too many years in use... may I search somewhere else about that?
[12:24] <aniac> on the other hand it seems strange to me that none of both amarok and exaile doesn't provide an interface to choose charset...
[12:24] <wols_> [Chief]: I told you your RTL8211BL is NOT a network card. it's your network's PHY and the only place this is important is the connection of your PC to the ethernet cable
[12:24] <gabbah> Jordan_U dammit.. now i get the menu, and i select to boot ubuntu, but i get error 17: cannot mount selected partition!
[12:24] <Microslave> wols_: I thought the point of that file was to guard against what [Chief] is seeing. (at least that is what the rule says it's suppose to do)
[12:24] <[Chief]> wols_: k, I moved it, teh server is restarting ..
[12:25] <Peeco> wols: yes im v inexperienced, but willing to learn.  im just looking for a guide.  thanks for your help.
[12:25] <scguy318> !install | Peeco
[12:25] <ubotu> Peeco: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:25] <lonejack> does somebody know how to show special chars, in particular this [ ` ], that is different respect to [ ' ]. Thank you
[12:25] <wols_> Microslave: it generates a new eth everytime a new MAC is in the system
[12:25] <scguy318> Peeco: covers some options, including mine I suggested
[12:25] <[Chief]> wols_: So, how can i find out the name of my network card?
[12:25] <Mortuis> Does anyone know if rsync can use protocol 1?
[12:25] <Microslave> wols_: yeah, same card *I would hope* would hold the same MAC addy.
[12:25] <Peeco> scguy318: cheers, im on the pages now having a browse
[12:26] <wols_> Peeco: I don't have a guide for this, it's something I just made up on the spot. while I know it will work it'S not easy for someone new and then the probability of destroying windows is high
[12:26] <Mortuis> ugh, never mind. Of course once I break down and ask for help I find it in the man page.
[12:26] <wols_> [Chief]: you have an integrated nvidia GBit ethernet card which uses forcedeth as its driver
[12:26] <tho1> lonejack you can map keys to those special characters in a file called Xmodmap that you place in your home directory. It will be read at login.
[12:27] <[Chief]> wols_: k, thx, the device is now called eth0, I make another restart but I think it's working
[12:27] <[Chief]> wols_: But why does the driver always give me another MAC? is this a bug?
[12:28] <wols_> see what the message said
[12:28] <lonejack> tho1: under windows that char can be typed with a Alt-096, is it possible to do something similar under ubuntu?
[12:28] <wols_> [Chief]: it could be cause your chipset is very new and not fully properly recognized
[12:29] <wols_> or it could be your mobo maker screwed up, I don't know
[12:29] <sokiri> hell i was told to come here and ask for fglrx from the ubuntu restricted driver
[12:29] <wols_> !ati | sokiri
[12:29] <sokiri> *hello even
[12:29] <ubotu> sokiri: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:29] <[Chief]> wols_: k, thx
[12:30] <sokiri> thanks
[12:31] <tho1> lonejack there is a small X utility that displays all those characters. You can use that util to copy a character into the clipboard. I am looking to see if I can find it for you. There are also similar gnome- and kde- specific utilties that perform the same function, but I don't use either gnome or kde
[12:32] <frederick> my friend is saying he's getting dpkg-reconfigure as command not found
[12:32] <frederick> what could be wrong with his system?
[12:32]  * Microslave gets mad at compiz ... 
[12:33] <user42> hello everyone
[12:33] <wols_> frederick: he isn't using sudo
[12:33] <frederick> wols_: i see
[12:34] <wols_> the command only makes sense when run under root priviledges
[12:34] <scguy318> wols_: for command not found?
[12:34] <scguy318> wols_: if you run it as a user it'll ask you to run as root
[12:35] <Tha1> hey
[12:35] <scguy318> frederick: perhaps your friend possibly mistyped, though he'll probably need the sudo bit too
[12:36] <neztiti> guys please help me   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:36] <user42> im glad ubuntu defaults to gnome, its much less bloated than kde
[12:36] <tho1> lonejack in gnome it is gucharmap, kde kcharselect
[12:36] <wols_> user42: you might be mistaken
[12:36] <lonejack> tho1: thank you very much
[12:37] <user42> well all distros that have a gnome and kde release, have a larger kde release
[12:37] <frederick> wols_: some guy who doesn't know about #ubuntu yet
[12:37] <user42> or well, all that i have noted
[12:37] <wols_> scguy318: it's in /usr/sbin which is not in a user's path, only root's. so yes, just typing dpkg-reconfigure gives you command not found
[12:37] <frederick> wols_: or any command line arguments
[12:37] <Tha1> i've got a question regarding configuring Apache2 and Subversion
[12:37] <uchazco> Hi... can i prevent my laptop running fsck when its on battery?
[12:37] <neztiti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:38] <user42> i duno it might be my hardware specifics, but kde crashes a lot more than gnome
[12:38] <uchazco> !laptop
[12:38] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[12:39] <lonejack> tho1: another people told me how to type that char, It's easy: Alt+'...
[12:40] <scguy318> wols_: /usr/sbin is in my path, I guess that only applies to the default account?
[12:40] <wols_> scguy318: it shouldn't be in your user's path
[12:40] <MYRM1D0N> when i go to xbox.com.... it says to install missing plugins... so i select it... it says to install adobe flash player... once i select that... it says cannot find flash plugin-nonfree.... any help?
[12:40] <wols_> !flashissue | MYRM1D0N
[12:40] <ubotu> MYRM1D0N: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:40] <scguy318> wols_: but it is, and I don't recall tweaking it so hmm
[12:41] <albator> Good morning
[12:41] <Microslave> wols_: it is in my path as well (well default/main user it is ) I added it on all subsequent user
[12:41] <wols_> then maybe there are differences, I've encountered ubuntus without it
[12:42] <tho1> wols_ logged in via ssh to my server (7.10) and both sbin directories are part of the path for a normal user
[12:43] <MYRM1D0N> ok, thanx for the info... any idea how long the fix will take?
[12:43] <JWay> how can I adjust the touchpad on my laptop so that it takes a lighter press with the finger to click?
[12:43] <tho1> wols_ all three.../sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin
[12:43] <albator> Do you still have to use ndis wrapper for broadcom wireless cards in ubuntu gusty?
[12:43] <scguy318> albator: you might if bcm43xx doesn't cut it for you
[12:43] <lesshaste_> what is people's favourite tool to convert videos to a format an ipod can play?
[12:43] <lesshaste_> most likely mp4
[12:43] <wols_> albator: no
[12:43] <wols_> !broadcom | albator
[12:43] <ubotu> albator: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:44] <scguy318> lesshaste_: ffmpeg
[12:44] <albator> thx
[12:44] <lesshaste_> scguy318, interesting
[12:44] <bazhang> lesshaste_: podencoder?
[12:44] <Microslave> wols_: cat /etc/login.defs |grep -i path
[12:44] <danker> hi all
[12:44] <lesshaste_> bazhang, aha! :)
[12:44] <danker> kto po russki govorit
[12:44] <albator> getting "error Microcode "bcm43XX_microcode5.fw" not available" in dmesg
[12:44] <danker> ?
[12:44] <tho1> !ru
[12:44] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[12:45] <wols_> albator: obviously. maybe you should read the link?
[12:45] <Wander_w> albator: install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:45] <lesshaste_> bazhang, thanks
[12:45] <albator> will do!
[12:45] <bazhang> http://linuxappfinder.com/package/podencoder lesshaste_
[12:45] <user42> kde 4.1 comes out jan11, when will kubuntu incorporate kde4.x?
[12:45] <lesshaste_> bazhang, thanks... looks great
[12:46] <wols_> user42: hardy
[12:46] <lesshaste_> except..which package has mp4box?
[12:46] <khelll> how to restart the memcached server?
[12:46] <neztiti> guys what error here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49787/
[12:47] <bazhang> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/08/30/ipod-video-howto lesshaste_
[12:47] <lesshaste_> bazhang, I've got it thanks :)
[12:47] <lesshaste_> gpac is what was missing
[12:47] <bazhang> lesshaste_: no worries
[12:48] <lesshaste_> bazhang, why is there a separate mencoder and mplayer package?
[12:48] <bazhang> lesshaste_:
[12:48] <bazhang> not sure
[12:48] <user42> im a nooblet
[12:48] <Microslave> neztiti: short answer; there is a package you want to install that everything else requires but it can;t be installed...
[12:48] <bazhang> sorry for the early enter lesshaste_
[12:48] <lesshaste_> bazhang, :)
[12:49] <albator> Nice and simple, would be nice if there was some wizzard or something to enable it for newbs "wirless just works" is killer feature imo
[12:50] <bmack> i just installed kubuntu to dual-boot with windows vista, on the boot-up i was wonder if there is a way i can change the way it boots up. it gives me 3 ubuntu options and 1 vista is there a way to narrow it to 1 vista and 1 ubuntu?
[12:50] <Wander_w> albator: I believe that there is a "Install restricted firmware" question on the taskbar, so I think its pretty obvious
[12:50] <gnomeboy> i need help ..i installed compiz and activated something..whenever my mouse scrolls over a window .,that window is selected
[12:50] <Buyydee> yes, try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:50] <gnomeboy> how to deactivate ut
[12:51] <albator> u think my grannie knows what that means?
[12:51] <gnomeboy> it
[12:51] <Buyydee> @bmack
[12:51] <bmack> ok
[12:51] <Buyydee> bmack: at the end of the file, there are the entries of your OS
[12:51] <Wander_w> albator: You think your granny can pull of a fresh Ubuntu install?
[12:51] <user42> gnomeboy thats in compiz fusion settings manager
[12:51] <user42> you can disable that there
[12:51] <bmack> is ubuntu recovery mode and memtest needed?
[12:51] <gnomeboy> yea wat is it called
[12:51] <Buyydee> bmack: delete the ones you don't like
[12:51] <wols_> Wander_w: since my granny can't install windows or ubuntu or OSX, who cares
[12:52] <user42> what you said, just do "advanced search"
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> bmack: i would not delete recoverymode
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> and don't delete them, just comment them out
[12:52] <Buyydee> bmack: you might need them when the system doesn't work properly, but you can start them from the cd
[12:52] <Wander_w> wols_: indeed
[12:52] <bmack> ok
[12:52] <bmack> ok
[12:52] <bmack> thanks
[12:52] <Microslave> wols_: :)
[12:52] <albator> isnt the idea to continue to make the OS as simple to use as possible?
[12:52] <bmack> love kubuntu btw :)
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> the minute you delete them, you'll need them, then its a pain in the ass
[12:52] <user42> compiz fusion is so damn cool
[12:52] <Buyydee> indygunfreak: true
[12:53] <_Lemon_> Hey, I have one Windows XP machine which has an ad-hoc wireless network set up on it, my computer can connect to it with Windows but my Ubuntu installation can't seem to connect at all, what can I do to remedy the situation?
[12:53] <albator> I only mention it as there is already some really nice un techy symatics included in other things
[12:53] <user42> is ubuntu the first distro to really make an attempt at linuxifying noobs?
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> thats why the # sign is a beautiful thing... if you read menu.lst, it tells you if you put # in front of the line, it will be ignored
[12:53] <bmack> right
[12:53]  * Kirua_ fais la pompom girl
[12:53] <andys> Yesterday I foolishly installed a kernel update on my xubuntu 7.10. I encrypted the hd with dm-crypt (wiki) and so it doesn|t boot after that kernel update. what should I do now? I already tried following the tutorial again, but I either get a file not found error when booting or a cant boot from selected partition error
[12:53] <wols_> bmack: why would you want to delete it?
[12:53] <Wander_w> user42: No, not by a long shot
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> so you put the # sign in front of a menu listing, it won't be shown.., if you need it, all you have to do is delete the pound sign
[12:53] <user42> oh, ok
[12:53] <gnomeboy> user42 i still cant find it
[12:53] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: you can edit grub menu "on the fly", tho I doubt bmack could do it when he actually needs it
[12:53] <Wander_w> user42: But it is one of the first that noobs actually notice
[12:54] <bmack> my girl isnt to computer smart and doesnt know which to choose
[12:54] <user42> gnomeboy hold on ill find it
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> wols_: and that is my point.
[12:54] <gnomeboy> thanks
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't say it couldn't be done
[12:54] <turbocueca__> Hello
[12:54] <bmack> so id rather it just boot vista for her by default
[12:54] <wols_> IndyGunFreak: not to mention it will be back after the next update-grub
[12:54] <wols_> bmack: then set vista as default
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> wols_: again though, you're dealing with people here who are clueless about linux.
[12:54] <turbocueca__> When I share a folder using samba @ ubuntu gutsy, I can see the folder in the network, but while accessing it, says it doesn't exist
[12:55] <bmack> ok
[12:56] <user42> gnomeboy i have seen it before, but now i cant find it either, wierd
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> bmack: doesn't know which o choose?  just set grub to give you 15-20sec to choose, i would think she'd know how to choose vista... i'd hope anyway
[12:56] <user42> it shouldnt raise window on mouse over by default
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> regardless though, Vista as default should work fine.
[12:56] <gnomeboy> yea
[12:57] <bmack> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 Error: "/tmp/ksocket-bmack" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[12:57]  * Microslave gets downright angry with compiz.. ok, now I know it's the problem... I have this lappie with ATI video card, with the fglx driver and compiz the thing over heats and shuts off....  I remove compiz it does come close to overheating
[12:57] <Wander_w> I'd say; If your girlfriend isn't computer-smart, then set Ubuntu as default.. Did that for my girlfriend when she broke Windows
[12:57] <gnomeboy> i remember seeing it..now i cant find it >_<
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: lol.. good point
[12:57] <Wander_w> Microslave: That is not a problem of compiz, it's your hardware that malfunctions
[12:57] <Microslave> Wander_w: worked well?  my girl keeps breaking `doze and I haven't gotten up to formatting her system
[12:58] <user42> lol gnome i have no idea where that thing is, i searched for "raise" "mouse" "mouse over" and got nothing
[12:58] <Wander_w> Microslave: yes, works like a charm
[12:58] <albator> My gran has been useing ubuntu for around 3 years, she can break a computer  by looking at it
[12:58] <gnomeboy> any1 else know how to shut off the auto raise window in conpiz?
[12:58] <user42> if you like eye candy you should install avant window manager, its like the macintosh dock
[12:58] <Wander_w> Microslave: But I must say, my girlfriend doesn't use ANY software outside a browser
[12:58] <bmack> any reason why i get those errors?
[12:59] <Microslave> Wander_w: mine either
[12:59] <Buyydee> gnomeboy: yes, start the config-program by typing gnome-compiz-preferences
[12:59] <Wander_w> Microslave: then go for it
[12:59] <gnomeboy> n then?
[12:59] <gnomeboy> i use ccsm
[13:00] <Wander_w> Microslave: My girlfriend was pretty pleased by the fast bootup, and lack of options (I set Windowmaker with just 1 icon on it (browser))
[13:00] <Buyydee> gnomeboy: on the second tab, there is a field right at the top, remove the check
[13:00] <jhaig> Not entirely sure what I have done, but now every time I click on a link in Firefox, the link opens in a background tab, and the scroll wheel on my mouse changes the size of the text, instead of scrolling the page.  Anyone know what I might have turned on, and how to turn it off again?  Thanks.
[13:01] <Wander_w> Microslave: I allso set the poweroff button (the one on the case) to act as a "proper" shutdown procedure; it's really easy for her
[13:01] <Buyydee> jhaig: sounds like ctrl-lock :D maybe reboot? or broken keyboard
[13:01] <Microslave> Wander_w: well, I could blame the ATI M24 (mobility x600) chip but it's ATI I except it act like crap
[13:02] <singh> thanks to all for making ubuntu a great stuff
[13:02] <jhaig> Buyydee: I'm using synergy.  Might that be causing problems?
[13:02] <Wander_w> Microslave: Any hardware that overheats from normal use is BROKEN in my opinion
[13:02] <Buyydee> jhaig: i'm not familiar with that, sry
[13:02] <user42> i wish i could pay my respect to open source developers without having to donate money
[13:02] <Microslave> Wander_w: I was thinking if setting it to be more as a sleep/hibernate; she doesn't turn her laptop off
[13:02] <Wander_w> user42: then donate code, or translate some applications
[13:02] <Blinkiz> I would like to test if "twofish-cbc-essiv:sha256" is faster than "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256". Can anyone recommend a tool for that?
[13:02] <Blinkiz> I would like to test if "twofish-cbc-essiv:sha256" is faster than "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256". Can anyone recommend a tool for that?
[13:02] <Wander_w> Microslave: Good idea
[13:03] <jhaig> Buyydee: Synergy is for using one mouse and keyboard for two (or more) machines.
[13:03] <user42> i could do some nice howto's
[13:03] <theunixgeek> How can I install templates in Nautilus?
[13:03] <Wander_w> user42: Great idea! go for it
[13:03] <user42> and i have an extremely valuable nvidia hack that fixes a huge compiz fusion thats heavily reported
[13:04] <rhetoric> *sigh* i did something very bad. i changed /etc/fstab while a NFS mount was mounted, then tried to unmount it, now i've broken gnome ><
[13:04] <theunixgeek> How do I install templates in nautilus?
[13:04] <Wander_w> user42: Really? where can I find it? I still get black flickerings now and then
[13:04] <Buyydee> jhaig: might be, unplug your keyboard from the device and plug it in directly to your computer while it is off, then start it. if the problem persists, your synergy isn't the source. be back here then :)
[13:05] <user42> the black flickering is caused by the theme
[13:06] <user42> if the theme is set to something thats not skinned you wont see that black flicker on any menu or anything
[13:06] <Wander_w> user42: Really? then why does it work allright untill after I open 15+ applications?
[13:06] <AliTarihi> Hi everyone!
[13:06] <singh> somtimes my monitor gets blank after successful booting.
[13:07] <AliTarihi> I have a question: I've installed the latest Nvidia driver but I have no 3D acceleration.
[13:07] <rhetoric> if i log in to gnome (even the default session) my system load goes through the roof and im unable to do anything :( god i feel stupid atm
[13:07] <user42> beats me, less resources i guess. if you right click on the desktop and hit change desktop background, then go to the theme tab, and hit customize, and select the thinice theme you wont have black flickering
[13:07] <singh> i witness all the booting process but after gdm is started it suddenly gets blank on the monitor
[13:08] <user42> but the main nvidia problem im talking about is that nvidia downclocks its cards when theres no intensive 3d animation going on, but it doesnt react quickly enough to speed back up when you, say, drag a window after a short idle period
[13:08] <Microslave> "why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill"....
[13:08] <singh> help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11somtimes my monitor gets blank after successful booting.
[13:08] <singh> i witness all the booting process but after gdm is started it suddenly gets blank on the monitor
[13:08] <user42> so you get a real choppy response for a few seconds, which ruins tons of animations
[13:09] <acidicchip> singh, turn off your screen saver?
[13:09] <Wander_w> user42: Yeah, I noticed that, never knew that was because of the video clock
[13:09] <Pici> !patience
[13:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:09] <user42> while true; do nvidia-settings -q all > /dev/null; sleep 25; done
[13:09] <Microslave> singh: what happens if you move your mouse around?
[13:09] <Wander_w> user42: What's the fix for that then?
[13:09] <user42> make that an executable and put it in autostart
[13:09] <user42> fixes it completely
[13:10] <singh> it is just blank not take any movement any key pressed into consideration
[13:10] <AliTarihi> I have a question: I've installed the latest Nvidia driver but I have no 3D acceleration.
[13:10] <singh> its completely freezes
[13:11] <rhetoric> so yeah im a complete moron and i changed the fstab entry of an NFS share, then tried to unmount it, then changed it back, then tried to unmount it, and now i cant get into gnome without system load going so high i cant do anything
[13:11] <Wander_w> user42: well... that probably keeps the GPU running at full speed all the time then? not so nice for my laptop then :(
[13:11] <singh> Microslave: it completely freezes
[13:11] <rhetoric> i got into an X terminal session but i dont know what to do to rescue my system
[13:11] <lui_G> !de
[13:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:11] <user42> hmm yeah, but then compiz fusion isnt good either, if you dont like heat and low battery life
[13:12] <Unknown50267> i've installed gdesklets, now how can i run it?
[13:12] <tehk> Is there any way to change the copy paste keybindings to super-C and super-V
[13:12] <Wander_w> user42: true, true
[13:13] <user42> i havent noticed much of a decrease in battery life using that hack. i thought i would but i dont
[13:14] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:15] <freakynl> hey there, i have an ubuntu server machine on which i want to install vmware server. vwmare server needs the kernel headers to build some modules. now i'm running 2.6.20-15-server. if i want to d/l the headers it wants to fetch the 2.6.20-16-server headers. i'm not running that kernel and I can't reboot the machine. can i still get the 2.6.20-15-server headers somewhere?
[13:15] <chraso> hello chennal
[13:16] <thomahasamoot> hello, folks
[13:16] <user42> im going to sleep, goodnight
[13:16] <Microslave> freakynl: yes, be specific in your apt-get
[13:16] <thomahasamoot> sweet dreams
[13:16]  * Kirua_ urla
[13:16] <freakynl> Microslave: yea just figured it out, apt-cache search doesn't show the older versions tho
[13:16]  * Kirua_ fit un clonage (technqiue), et les clones essayerent de débarasser mike de sechs
[13:17] <Microslave> apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6.20-15  and  it's there
[13:17] <Pici> !fr | Kopfgeldjaeger
[13:17] <ubotu> Kopfgeldjaeger: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:17] <brobostigon> !fr | kirua
[13:17] <ubotu> kirua: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:17] <Pici> brobostigon: thanks, tab complete is a bit off this morning ;)
[13:17] <thomahasamoot> I'm having trouble w/ X11, nVidia 8600, Kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, any kind sould care to help?
[13:17] <Kopfgeldjaeger> ?! Pici
[13:18] <Pici> Kopfgeldjaeger: tab complete mismatch, sorry.
[13:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> k
[13:20] <thomahasamoot> the error I got was could not connect to /dev/nividia0... because there wasn't one
[13:22] <Rufus_> i've installed gdesklets, now how can i run it?
[13:23] <porcho> hi there. I have a doubt regarding DNS functionallity. does an operating system (wheter *nix or Windows) perform DNS local cache by default?
[13:23] <thomahasamoot> so I installed the latest drivers from www.nividia.com
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: why did you do that?
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> and are you sure they're installed.
[13:24]  * Microslave looks for a cig and a cup of coffee ...  anyone else want coffee?
[13:25] <singh> quit
[13:26] <berkes> I want/need to buy a new graphics card. What brand/type a) suppotrs ubuntu best b) has properly released open source drivers?
[13:26] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: no, now the kernel symbols are mismatched... so I tried reinstalling the apt-get drivers, and kernel... but the symbols are still messed up
[13:26] <IndyGunFreak> berkes: Nvidia should work fine.
[13:26] <Wander_w> porcho: No, I don't think that DNS requests are normally cached, however, you can put up a caching DNS server yourself
[13:26] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | berkes
[13:26] <ubotu> berkes: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[13:27] <berkes> IndyGunFreak: mkay, do they play "the OSS game" nicely? 'Cause right now I have this ATI and they suck when it comes to open sourcing stuff
[13:27] <porcho> Wander_w: I see. thanks!
[13:27] <thomahasamoot> berkes: ATI just realesed all their info
[13:27] <IndyGunFreak> berkes: guess it depends on the card, i don't play to many games...but the few i play, are ine.
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: did tey>
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[13:28] <berkes> its mostly a political decision. I want to buy from manufacturors that play nice. To support them, and to make sure others will follow.
[13:28] <IndyGunFreak> i hadn't heard that
[13:28] <Wander_w> berkes: NVIDIA doesn't play the opensource game AT ALL, they do however, release a quality closed source driver for Linux
[13:28] <berkes> thomahasamoot: still flglx is not OSS;
[13:29] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: yeap, but it was a short time ago, so the OSS drivers probley aren't ready yet
[13:29] <berkes> Wander_w: thanks, that's a couple of thumbs down for an Nvidia card then :)
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> berkes: you're likely not going to find a video card that is 100% open source
[13:29] <Microslave> berkes: video cards and drivers is very competitive you will not find 100% open source
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: interesting, hadn't heard that
[13:29] <Wander_w> IndyGunFreak: Well, last I heard the Intel ones were pretty much all opensource
[13:29] <berkes> IndyGunFreak: It needs not be all-Floss, just that there are proper GPLed drivers around, supported by the manufaturor is fine
[13:29] <TeTeT> is there a voice command system for Ubuntu?
[13:29] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: really?.. i can't get the intel graphics drivers installed on my laptop...
[13:30] <Microslave> berkes: ATI and NVidia play well enough with Linux these days, Nvidia a bit better IHMO but some will disagree
[13:30] <Fish-Guts> hey folks
[13:30] <IndyGunFreak> Microslave: id have to agree w/ that, i like Nvidia, cuz i run dual monitors, and it was a pain in ATI..., Nvidia it takes all of about 4min
[13:30] <Wander_w> IndyGunFreak: Well... then maybe my memory isn't what it used to be :)
[13:30] <berkes> found this. https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/video nice enough
[13:30] <IndyGunFreak> Wander_w: lol.. we all hae that prob
[13:30] <Wander_w> Microslave: Yeah, nvidia cards are better to use, but less open than ati's
[13:31] <Reglaa> Can anyone recommend a gutsy alternative to peerguardian2?
[13:31] <Microslave> IndyGunFreak: video cards starts wars as bad as vi vs emacs
[13:31] <IndyGunFreak> Microslave: lol, or KDE vs Gnome... that one gets bloody
[13:31] <thomahasamoot> so how do I go about fixing X11?
[13:32] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: why didn't you just use the restricted driver manager?
[13:32] <arte_> hi there has any1 a problem when firefox freezes bcoz of flash video?
[13:32] <thomahasamoot> I did
[13:32] <Wander_w> vi is the BEST editor there is!
[13:32] <berkes> Wander_w: I, myself hardly play any games. Though with the Beryl stuff, I do like some 3d acceleration.
[13:32] <Microslave> IndyGunFreak: that one I thunk everyone on... who needs a desktop env. you just a wm :)
[13:32] <IndyGunFreak> i thought you said you downloaded the driver from nvidia?
[13:32]  * syc_ brb, makan dolo...
[13:33] <thomahasamoot> and it worked... until it stoped after rebooting while trying to get KVM working
[13:33] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:33] <arte_> can any1 help me to avoid firefox freezin when watchin flash video on utube etc ..
[13:34] <freakynl> is ipv6 backwards compatible with ipv4? xinetd binds a port to tcp 0.0.0.0:<port>, ssh binds to tcp6 :::22, bind is crazy and binds to tcp6 :::53 and all my IP's (over a 100) seperately tcp <ip>:53
[13:34] <thomahasamoot> I downloaded the driver, after it stoped working, then I noticed they just realest a new version... so I thought I'd try it... pluss usplash has /never/ worked
[13:35] <arte_> !russian
[13:35] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:35] <r_gti> hi
[13:35] <Microslave> damn my gf is snoring again...   time to roll her back over to her side.....
[13:35] <r_gti> do anyone knows how i can install ubuntu amd64 with alternative cd?
[13:35] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: usplash, i'm pretty sure thats a gutsy problem, none of my gutsy boxes, usplash works.
[13:36] <IndyGunFreak> !usplash
[13:36] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[13:36] <arte_> Microslave: i wud kill her
[13:36] <bazhang> Microslave: you have a support question?
[13:36] <Myrtti> r_gti: other than download the iso, burn it, pop it in and install=
[13:36] <bazhang> arte_: support question?
[13:36] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: 64bit Ubuntu has an alternate CD.
[13:37] <arte_> at last baz
[13:37] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: but if you're new to Linux/Ubuntu, i'd suggest sticking w/ 32bit for the time being.
[13:37] <r_gti> Mytti i done all theese i had install ubuntu before with live cd but know the xserver dont start in the live cd with amd64 version of ubuntu
[13:37] <herbalise> hi is have added my ubuntu to the domain an can login with domain user.  is there a way to pass credentials while browsing smb shares using nautilus? so i don't have to type use name and password again?
[13:37] <arte_> baz still hear me ?
[13:37] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: I think I need a clean kernel and to download the apt-get driver at this point... is that right?
[13:37] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: probably
[13:37] <r_gti> i put 4gb ram and 32bit dont recognize it in my laptop
[13:38] <simmerz> i can't seem to get my phone to see my laptop via bluetooth. the laptop is set up as turned on and discoverable
[13:38] <ace_> im gonna give suspend a try
[13:38]  * ace_ crosses fingers
[13:38] <Microslave> bazhang: nope .... just killing time and giving my tim to answer any questions people may have that i know the answers to...
[13:38] <r_gti> so i want install amd64 version
[13:38] <ace_> wish me luck
[13:38] <IndyGunFreak> r_gti: have fun
[13:38] <Myrtti> Microslave: so keep the offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic, and support here
[13:38] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: the trouble is I'm not sure how to get it clean...
[13:38] <Fish-Guts> i recently changed from debian to ubuntu. does ubuntu come with only 2 workspaces?
[13:38] <Myrtti> Fish-Guts: you can add them as many as you like
[13:38] <simmerz> Fish-Guts: right click and change it if you want 4
[13:38] <IndyGunFreak> thomahasamoot: good question, might be easier to reinstall
[13:38] <arte_> ny brain.dll dznt worl plz help ... lol
[13:39] <bazhang> arte_: you need to type out my full nick; first three letters and tab key will do it--what is the issue?
[13:39] <Wander_w> simmerz: I think most phones look for specific bleutooth profiles (like the headset profile) and won't show other devices
[13:39] <r_gti> the way to install ubuntu from alternative disc is the same like live cd?
[13:39] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: you mean the whole system?
[13:39] <Fish-Guts> ah, my bad :)
[13:39] <Fish-Guts> sorry for bothering
[13:39] <Microslave> roger...
[13:39] <IndyGunFreak> thats what *I* would do, i don't generally trouble shoot much though when I screw something up
[13:39] <marco__> bjhb
[13:39] <arte_> bazhang, the problem is i think ur bot
[13:40] <arte_> :)
[13:40] <simmerz> Wander_w: normally it will see a laptop or another phone. it used to see it when i had gentoo on it
[13:40] <IndyGunFreak> you make it sound like installing is a huge chore.. i an have my system back up, and completely configured, along w/ all my music, movies, etc.(around 12-15gigs), back in place in about an hour.
[13:40] <bazhang> arte_: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:40] <Wander_w> simmerz: then maybe ubuntu has different profiles enabled/disabled?
[13:40] <arte_> i ask the question twice before cud u plz put ur head up
[13:41] <r_gti> also i want to learn if anyone use compiz with geforce 8600m gt
[13:41] <simmerz> Wander_w: well normally it will notice a computer, laptop or desktop or otherwise
[13:41] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: welll... I'll look... but I don't think it'll figure out my LVM setup
[13:41] <kkouwe> sometimes when i trie to load my webpage (apache), i get the firefox error ("The connection was reset"). No entry in the error log (debug mode)... Can someone point me a direction?
[13:42] <arte_> bazhang, firefox freezes when i try to watch flash video on youtube, if truly when goin from 1 video to another
[13:42] <arte_> bazhang, ???
[13:43] <bazhang> arte_: you have the latest version of ubuntu gutsy 7.10?
[13:43] <arte_> yes sir
[13:43] <IndyGunFreak> flash never freezes on me, don't know why people keep having probs w/ it.
[13:43] <thomahasamoot> IndyGunFreak: you still here?
[13:43] <arte_> u guessed or ur copperfield ?
[13:43] <IndyGunFreak> yes
[13:44] <arte_> bazhang, so ..
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: how did you install flash?
[13:44] <ace__> somuch for suspend but hibernate works ;)
[13:44] <arte_> IndyGunFreak, firefox plugin install
[13:45] <dejand> hello
[13:45] <Microslave> arte_: try the swfdec-mozilla dpkg instead
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: i knwo there was some issues w/ the firefox plugin install, i downloaded the tarball from adobe.com and installed that way, and never a prob.
[13:45] <dejand> while installing ubuntu my pc just freezes, what's wrong?:S
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> maybe uninstall and download it from adobe, i don't know.
[13:45] <dejand> when "installing system"
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: how fst did you burn the disk?
[13:46] <herbalise> can somebody point me to a guide for joining my ubuntu to a active directory domain
[13:46] <arte_> ok tnx but i think ffx sux can u recommend better browser ?
[13:46] <herbalise> ubuntu 7.04
[13:46] <dejand> max
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: reburn, and burn SLOW
[13:46] <dejand> herbalise i'm rewritin it again
[13:46] <dejand> you think that's the problem?
[13:46] <dejand> okey i set 10x speed
[13:46] <Microslave> arte_: flock isn;t bad nither is opera
[13:46] <kkouwe> sometimes when i trie to load my webpage, i get the firefox error ("The connection was reset"). No entry in the error log (debug mode)... Can someone point me a direction?
[13:46] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: more like 2-4x
[13:46] <arte_> how cud i install plugins on opera
[13:47] <dejand> IndyGunFreak 10x is lowest i can get
[13:47] <IndyGunFreak> arte_: i've not gotten flash tow ork in opera..., but some have
[13:47] <arte_> flock ? never heard about hmm
[13:47] <IndyGunFreak> dejand: if you says so.
[13:47] <Wander_w> dejand: There is a "check CD" option when you boot the CD, try that to rule out any cd-burn errors
[13:47] <arte_> !flock
[13:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:47] <Microslave> arte_: I believe flock is based on moz's code but I'm not positive in that
[13:47] <arte_> Microslave, i see ...
[13:48] <arte_> godamn't
[13:48] <Microslave> arte_: Linux.com wrote an article on it not to long ago
[13:48] <arte_> Microslave, tnx mate
[13:49] <arte_> !russian
[13:49] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:49]  * syc_ wareggggg
[13:51] <rhetoric> can anyone help me try to rescue my laptop i really did something horrible
[13:51] <Xplicit> if i acces a truecrypt volume (ext) on an ntfs drive will it be slower than on a fat drive?
[13:52] <Myrtti> rhetoric: something horrible being what
[13:52] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Probably, fat is probably slower than ntfs anyway
[13:52] <rhetoric> Myrtti: i tried to unmount an NFS share after changing its fstab entry
[13:53] <rhetoric> Myrtti, then i changed the entry back, and tried again
[13:53] <Myrtti> a-ha.
[13:53] <rhetoric> Myrtti: now every time i start gnome, my system load goes through the roof
[13:54] <rhetoric> Myrtti, even a default session of gnome
[13:54] <Xplicit> will i suffer a real performance hit using a true crypt volume on an ntfs partition as my home then?
[13:54] <chazco> Is it possible to generate an apt-get command from Synaptic?
[13:54] <rhetoric> I'm running top and "apport" is at the top of the CPU list, which makes no sense
[13:55] <pawan> hi
[13:55] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Well, it won't make it any faster, but I'm not shure you'd be able to tell it's slower
[13:56] <gnomeboy> how to get the field describtion for vmstats in terminal?
[13:56] <Xplicit> ok thx, its not that im a paranoid freak just that theyre out to get me and i NEED to encrypt all my data lol
[13:56] <freakynl> gnomeboy: ? it's right above the lines
[13:57] <Wander_w> Xplicit: Well, you can allways try it, and if you don't like it for whatever reasons then you just change back
[13:57] <gnomeboy> i mean the command to get it...besides googlign
[13:57] <ace__> i love "tilda" terminal emulator
[13:57] <freakynl> gnomeboy: man vmstat
[13:57] <gnomeboy> is there a command to make the terminal display/
[13:57] <gnomeboy> ok
[13:57] <gnomeboy> tq
[13:57] <ace__> anyone else love tilda as much as me?
[13:58] <Wander_w> who is tilda?
[13:58] <sayers> gnomeboy, you can go into the key settings and make a short cut for it
[13:58] <fadey> Hi,everyone.I've upgraded the system today and I'm getting the following error "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-UUID/blah... does not exists" while the kernel is booting.Did anyone get the same thing?
[13:58] <Xplicit> !ntfs
[13:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[13:58] <sayers> Wander_w, a terminal emulator like in games where you pres a key and it drops down.
[13:58] <freakynl> ace__: depends if she turns into a cag of beer and my best friends after the deed
[13:58] <ace__> tilda is just another quake console type terminal emulator
[13:58] <sayers> Wander_w, wait I was confused it is also a key right above tab left of 1
[13:59] <Wander_w> can't say i'd be impressed by that
[13:59] <sayers> If you used the terminal a lot you would be.
[13:59] <Wander_w> 1 terminal isn't enough anyway
[13:59] <Wander_w> (got nine running now)
[13:59] <ace__> thats why god created `screen`
[14:00] <Wander_w> I like to keep 9 terminals on 1 screen, keeps stuff easily accesable
[14:00] <ace__> but hey whats the key combo to open the "run comman" dialog
[14:00] <sayers> Wander_w, 9 is a bit much :)
[14:00] <Wander_w> sayers: no its not
[14:00] <sayers> unless you dont have a desktop environment
[14:01] <Wander_w> sayers: I have a desktop enviroment
[14:01] <sayers> I doubt all 8 are being used or you love terminal apps
[14:01] <Wander_w> sayers: in the old days I used to have as much as 18 running, didn't have an IDE then
[14:01] <sayers> Or your a developer :)
[14:01] <Wander_w> yes, am an developer
[14:02] <Xplicit> the help for ntfs-3g is out dated, for 7.10 do i still install ntfs-3g and follow 7.04 instructions?
[14:02] <ace__> i think the only real thinkg keeping me in a window manager is firefox
[14:02] <|Z_E_R_O|> ola
[14:02] <Pici> Xplicit: ntfs-3g is already installed in 7.10
[14:03] <sayers> Wander_w, well I use ubuntu as my desktop nonstop and at most have like 3 tabs in a terminal open for server work
[14:03] <Wander_w> sayers: Well: to each his own style, but I've used all the terminals (9) at least once today
[14:04] <sayers> I use the terminal for SCP a lot
[14:04] <sayers> I don't trust nautilus for network copy files except for SAMBA
[14:04] <argie> Hello, does anyone here know what to do when your partition table is mashed by the Ubuntu installer?
[14:04] <pawan> google talk for ubuntu
[14:04] <rhetoric> sayers: pour some gravy on and get to eatin? sorry i couldnt help it
[14:05] <sayers> argie, that isn't very spacific?
[14:05] <Wander_w> 1 runs cocoon (a webserver-like program) 1 for top, then some general-use ones, mostly grepping and editing files
[14:05] <sayers> rhetoric, ?
[14:05] <rhetoric> sayers: sorry i meant argie :)
[14:05] <rhetoric> lol
[14:05] <earthling> pawan:if you have 7.10 you can use pidgin
[14:05] <sayers> Pidgin is great ;)
[14:06] <WorkingOnWis1> i have totally screwed up my gnome session somehow. If I log in to a gnome session, everything in the panels, and the panes themselves, crash, leaving me only the desktop, and alt-f2 to run apps. I can log into an E-Gnome session (gnome using enlightenment) and the default panels load and all is good. Whats the fastest way to get my regular Gnome defaults back?
[14:06] <Wander_w> WorkingOnWis1: delete the .gnome directory in your home directory?
[14:07] <argie> Here's the forum thread I posted in detail in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652020
[14:07] <argie> Basically, what happened is ubiquity crashed while partitioning and now both GParted and Ubiquity show the drive as unpartitioned. However fdisk reports that the partitions exist and that "Partition table entries are not in disk order". It also claims that "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite)".
[14:07] <rhetoric> so.. can anyone help with this horrible mess i made with NFS
[14:08] <argie> However, it's labelled 'Warning:' and I suppose I only have one shot at this so I'd like to know what I should do from someone who knows what it's about.
[14:08] <chazco> Hi... using the keyboard shortcuts tool I have setup my remote to work Totem... is there any way I can make it work on Kaffeine also (i think i need to find where the keyboard shortcut editor on the menu saves its commands)
[14:09] <Regel> chazco, infrared remote?
[14:09] <Wander_w> argie: I'd make a backup of your partition table; you should use dd for that like: dd if=/dev/hda of=~/my_partition_table_backup count=123   Lookup the correct way to do this
[14:09] <chazco> Regel - yep
[14:09] <Regel> chazco, try 'IRkick'
[14:10] <chazco> It acts like a keyboard, so I set the PLAY button to work as play/pause with the keyboard shortcuts (so no extra apps)... but it only works on Totem, not kaffeine
[14:10] <justbluemail> hi, when I try to set desktop effects from none no normal or extra I get this "Desktop effects could not be enabled". The desktop effects had worked already but they stop working ofter something I did ( I think it was when I was trying to run cs source with wine but not sure).  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:10] <herbalise> anybody used http://sadms.sourceforge.net to add ubuntu 7.10 to active directory domain?
[14:10] <wols_> justbluemail: what driver do you use?
[14:10] <Regel> chazco, it should give you something to configure with KDE programs such as amarok and kaffeine
[14:10] <argie> wander_w: Thank you. I'll do that now.
[14:11] <justbluemail> wols: I didn't installed any driver
[14:11] <Regel> chazco, it's in the package called kdelirc
[14:11] <fadey> Hi. I'm missing /dev/disk directory after the kernel update. Can't use new kernel. Does anyone know how I could fix that?
[14:11] <rhetoric> when i start gnome, in a default session or not (doesnt matter) my CPU goes crazy and i cant do anything/nothing loads. system load is through the roof.
[14:12] <|Z_E_R_O|> fadey:  maybe now that directory has another name
[14:12] <EtteSB> can you make a ubuntu liveCD without DLing something. IE can ubuntu make one by its self?
[14:12] <chazco> Regel - most of the IR apps dont work with it, since it pretends to be a keyboard... its like pressing the PLAY key on a multimedia keyboard... but since Kaffeine isnt installed by default it doesnt seem to work with the gnome keyboard shortcuts tool
[14:12] <axelor> Herbailise: do you have krb5 installed?
[14:12] <wols_> justbluemail: you did. no driver: no X. so what driver do you use?
[14:12] <rhetoric> i mounted an NFS share, changed its fstab entry, then tried to unmount. then i changed the entry back to how it was and tried to unmount again. system slowed to a crawl so i rebooted, now EVERY boot is like this. please help :(
[14:12] <Regel> chazco,  you should try to google for lirc configs for that remove
[14:13] <chazco> Regel - lirc doesnt work with it
[14:13] <argie> wander_w: Any idea how large the resulting backup should be? Mine happened extremely fast, and I don't trust it.
[14:13] <ifireball> rhetoric: I leave you for a couple of hours... :P
[14:13] <rhetoric> ifireball :(
[14:13] <justbluemail> wols: here it says ati mach 8,mach 32, mach 64 etc
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball im so screwed atm :( i changed the entry and tried to unmount without realizing what i was doing
[14:14] <Hippotamus> How do I mount an NTFS external hard drive (usb) on Ubuntu 64 7.10?
[14:14] <sjnims> anyone know the correct settings for sensors.conf to be used with lm-sensors on a winbond w83627ehf chip?
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball,
[14:14] <Regel> chazco, maybe there's a kde shortcut tool? =)
[14:14] <fadey> |Z_E_R_O|: /dev/disk/by-UUID is on that path. Now kernel can't find my root partition
[14:14] <wols_> justbluemail: what videocard do you have?
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, now i cant even get in gnome for all intents and purposes
[14:14] <bazhang> Hippotamus: do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[14:14] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: just insert it, go to places -> computer and click on the item
[14:14] <justbluemail> wols: ati mobility radeon 9000
[14:14] <|Z_E_R_O|> fadey ... i don't know sorry
[14:14] <rhetoric> ifireball, the system load avg is 5.71 i can see my gnome panel heh
[14:14] <ifireball> rhetoric: doesn't sound NFS-related anyway, try commenting out the line in fstab and rebooting, the mounting thing shouldn't have such consequences
[14:15] <wols_> justbluemail: glxinfo |grep direct  output
[14:15] <EtteSB> hippotamus: stick it in the USB slot. should just work
[14:15] <EtteSB> can you make a ubuntu liveCD without DLing something. IE can ubuntu make one by its self?
[14:15] <Buyydee> bazhang: ntfs works out of the box on gutsy 64
[14:15] <rhetoric> ifireball, would a script running at startup with 2 blank lines at the end do it?
[14:15] <revilodraw> when viewing jpegs as a slideshow, each time it changes from one pic to the next, the screen flickers a bit crazy... any ideas how to stop this... apart from this, everything works perfectly
[14:15] <axelor> ette, the default download for 7.10 is a live AND install cd
[14:15] <Hippotamus> I get an error when I mount
[14:15] <ifireball> rhetoric: what script?
[14:15] <justbluemail> wols: what does that mean?
[14:15] <bazhang> Buyydee: nice to know! thanks
[14:16] <rhetoric> ifireball, the only other thing i did was edit my start-compiz script and i left a blank line or two at the bottom maybe
[14:16] <|Z_E_R_O|> i have a problem with my reflex. i'm trying to import images in unbuntu but i can't open them because ubuntu don't know file type. from terminal i typed "file 001.jpg" and it returned "empty" what can i do?
[14:16] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: what is the error? And do you mount it manually?
[14:16] <EtteSB> axelor: well i have ubuntu installed. and i no longer have the live CD that i installed with. im wanting to make another without downloading the install file again.
[14:16] <rhetoric> ifireball, if i run top from a terminal (ctrl-alt-fkey) i can see "apport" taking ~5% CPU and it keeps dissapearing and reaapearing
[14:16] <ifireball> rhetoric: doesn't sound like the cause of the problem, but its easy to find out, disable compiz and see what happens...
[14:16] <wols_> justbluemail: it's a command to run
[14:16] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: wait a second, I'll write it down
[14:17] <boston`> good afternoon
[14:17] <revilodraw> ifireball; an easy way to disable compiz?
[14:17] <noor> I seem to be losing audio periodically.  A restart seems to fix it, but restarting ALSA doesn't.  This most recent time I was watching a two file movie and when it switched over to the second file the audio was no longer working! (this was in vlc and other programs like amarok had no sound)  The first time I noticed this problem was right after I installed the FF 3 beta yesterday...if that means anything.  Firefox was not running during any of
[14:17] <noor>  this recent stuff, however.
[14:17] <rhetoric> ifireball, but my CPU usage is shown at 70%+ constantly, and i cant load anything in gnome it's frozen pretty much
[14:17] <Buyydee> revilodraw: system, preferences, appearance, then at the rightmost tab switch details to low
[14:17] <Hippotamus> buyydee: Mount is denied because NTFS is in use.
[14:17] <Wander_w> rhetoric: try this command in a terminal and show me the results: ps -aeo stat,pid,fname | grep ^D
[14:18] <rhetoric> wander_w, 1 moment
[14:18] <revilodraw> buyydee; oh yeh lol thanks
[14:18] <justbluemail> wols_: I placed that on console and got -> grep: output: File or folder does not exist
[14:18] <ifireball> revilodraw: system->prefs->appearance->effects->set to none
[14:19] <rhetoric> Wander_w, that isnt returning anything
[14:19] <Wander_w> rhetoric: damn
[14:19] <ifireball> rhetoric: lets take this one step at a time, disable compiz and the line in fstab and reboot, see what happens
[14:19] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o force
[14:19] <rhetoric> ifireball, kk
[14:19] <noor> I guess for a specific question, how does one restart the audio stuff completely?
[14:20] <ifireball> rhetoric: also check diskspaces, see if you ran out somewhere
[14:20] <revilodraw> ifireball: ok, well my problem is definitely caused by compiz.... when im playing jpegs as a slideshow, when it changes slides/pics the screen flickers black squares...
[14:20] <ifireball> revilodraw: probably not enough screen memory, compiz has problems in that department
[14:21] <revilodraw> noor; i dont know, have u made sure u r using the right device?
[14:21] <kkouwe> i'm getting this error when i try 'apt-get -f install'
[14:21] <kkouwe> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:21] <kkouwe>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch4_amd64.deb
[14:21] <revilodraw> ifireball; its a pretty good/new laptop
[14:21] <Wander_w> noor: stop all applications using audio (including artsd and the like) then rmmod you sound card modules and modprobe them back in
[14:21] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: I also use the drive for my windows, and it's not mine (borrowed), so it needs to still run with Win XP
[14:22] <ifireball> revilodraw: that means nothing, where does is get its screen memory? does it has its own, does it share with RAM?
[14:22] <noor> revilodraw, well, everything has beening working fine for weeks and it was working then suddenly stopped working
[14:22] <rhetoric> ifireball, restarting now
[14:22] <snchrptr> does ubuntu have drivers for the asus eeePC?
[14:22] <Buyydee> Hippotamus: this command should not affect windows usage in any way
[14:22] <revilodraw> ifireball; lol dont know
[14:22] <Extracted> How do you register a nick ?
[14:22] <revilodraw> noor; i would try.... one sec
[14:22] <cuteharez> snchrptr which driver
[14:23] <Hippotamus> Buyydee: Ok, just wanted to be sure.
[14:23] <ifireball> revilodraw: might as well have only 128mb of it...
[14:23] <Extracted> How do you register your Nick ?
[14:23] <revilodraw> noor; system, preferences, sound, and make sure its the hda intel mixer
[14:23] <snchrptr> cuteharez: all of them? what i mean is has it been tested with the ePC. i'm sure it has specific drivers because of it's formfactor
[14:23] <wols_> justbluemail: glxinfo then
[14:23] <wols_> Extracted: /msg nickserv help
[14:23] <Extracted> ty
[14:23] <revilodraw> ifireball; i dont really understand sorry
[14:23] <TheEagle> join #python
[14:24] <Pici> !register > Extracted (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:24] <Blu3pr1nt> TheEagle: /join is the right command ^^
[14:24] <rhetoric> ifireball, removing the fstab entry seemed to fix it
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, now the reason i changed the file in the first place... ok i had it mounted to a folder on my desktop
[14:25] <noor> revilodraw, which one?  Device: is SiS SI7012 (Alsa mixer)
[14:25] <ifireball> revilodraw: the amount of memory compiz needs = approx. sum of width*height of all open windows, that amounts to alot
[14:25] <revilodraw> noor; try the other one
[14:25] <melodosgr> do you guys know how do i change the color properties on gimp? i need a 14 color image to make my splashscreen..
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, BUT when i mounted it, ANOTHER icon appears, both going to the share (very ugly)
[14:25] <kkouwe> help! apt-get -f install... isn't working, what to do now??
[14:25] <rhetoric> ifireball, so should i just mount it to like /media/box2 and then make a desktop shortcut?
[14:25] <cuteharez> snchrptr i'm sure there is just that you have to do some googling
[14:26] <axelor> kkouwe: what were u trying to install?
[14:26] <bazhang> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ melodosgr
[14:26] <noor> revilodraw, huh, yeah, switching to the other one gets it working!
[14:26] <kkouwe> axelor: i did a simple upgrade
[14:26] <revilodraw> noor; yay!!
[14:26] <axelor> dist-upgrade?
[14:26] <kkouwe> axelor: yes
[14:26] <revilodraw> noor and fireball; good night
[14:26]  * syc_ off, wassalamualaikum wr wb
[14:26] <ifireball> rhetoric: well, the slowness might be due to network timeouts, see if you didn't lose the static IP we made on reboot...
[14:27] <cuteharez> snchrptr isn't Eee PC a linux distro
[14:27] <ifireball> rhetoric: does it give you an icon when ts not mounted?
[14:27] <bazhang> cuteharez: join #eeepc
[14:27] <Wander_w> cuteharez: It's a version of Xandros Linux that the eeepc is using
[14:27] <axelor> kkouwe: what were u upgradeing from and what are u trying to upgrade to?
[14:28] <Arelis> is XGL safe to use?
[14:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, the directory has to exist for it to be mounted BUT it loads another icon when i mount it, although it just occured to me why... i forgot where the setting is though
[14:28] <snchrptr> cuteharez: yeah but it's watered down. i'm going to install ubuntu or xp on it. whichever i can get to work better. i havent figured a lot of ubutntu out and i'd like to use it. but it's so hard to find answers. :P i've got it installed on my work laptop now and it seems to be doing ok
[14:28] <kkouwe> axelor: http://paste.lisp.org/display/53160
[14:28] <rhetoric> ifireball, the setting to show things that get mounted (like cdrom) on the desktop is doing it
[14:28] <ifireball> rhetoric: the gnome slowness was probably due to nautilus doing wacky things with the fstab line... sometimes it tries to be _too_ friendly...
[14:28] <rhetoric> so yea i'll just mount it to like /media/box2
[14:28] <Wander_w> Please define "safe" Safe; it son't blow up the computer; safe; it'll work; safe; won't get an std from it
[14:28] <TheEagle> thanks Blu3pr1nt! but it was just a typing error :)
[14:29] <Blu3pr1nt> TheEagle: np ^^
[14:29] <rhetoric> ifireball, it was probably because i was missing an "&" after my last command in that start-compiz script, and had like 2 blank lines after
[14:29] <ifireball> rhetoric: I really don't see how the 2 things are related
[14:29] <rhetoric> ifireball, either way it's back to normal now
[14:30] <rhetoric> ifireball, and i figured out my other issue, THANK YOU so much you've helped me a ton today
[14:30] <ifireball> rhetoric: n/p
[14:30] <bazhang> snchrptr: www.eeeuser.com has the ubuntu answers
[14:30] <rhetoric> if you ever come to the Ohio State University area send me a PM (rhetoric) on ubuntu forums i owe ya a beer :)
[14:31] <ifireball> rhetoric: sure thing
[14:31] <snchrptr> bazhang: thanks!
[14:31] <bazhang> snchrptr: no worries :}
[14:31] <arvin_> Hi, can anybody help me?
[14:31] <rhetoric> ifireball, i figure to avoid the stupid ifup bug problem, i'll make my script like such: sudo ifdown, sudo ifup, mount
[14:31] <bazhang> ask away arvin_
[14:32] <arvin_> kk
[14:32] <pbx> HI all. Is there any way to get aptitude to be smarter/faster when checking for installed apps?  Running a few selective "install" (upgrade) commands in a row I feel like there are some missed caching opportunities there. Or are all the cool kids using something else now?  Anyway, an example: http://dpaste.com/29205/
[14:32] <arvin_> I've got some problems, I'm trying to play WC3
[14:32] <arvin_> But it's soo laggy
[14:32] <arvin_> With WIne (in ubuntu)
[14:32] <rhetoric> ifireball, it seems to work via ifup just not on networking startup :/
[14:32] <arvin_> My computer is very good
[14:32] <bazhang> arvin_: wow? or warcraft3 under wine? not sure what wc3 is
[14:33] <arvin_> Warcraft III
[14:33] <Proteus> so I'm seeing ata_aux in top but ubuntu still isn't mounting my external drive
[14:33] <ifireball> rhetoric: ugly as hell, but of it works...
[14:33] <Wander_w> pbx: I'm a cool kid and I'm using apt-get
[14:33] <rhetoric> ifireball, could i just remove the lines from /etc/network/interfaces and put it all in the script?
[14:34] <rhetoric> ifireball, since it's doing no good there anyways
[14:34] <JoeyV> Hello
[14:34] <rhetoric> ifireball, i could just script sudo ifconfig up options etc etc ya?
[14:34] <earthling> arvin_: how much RAM?
[14:34] <Proteus> I've tried switching drives in the enclosure but I'm still not getting anything automounted
[14:34] <ifireball> rhetoric: neah, better leave it there, don't make it uglier then it already is
[14:34] <bazhang> hi JoeyV
[14:34] <pbx> Wander_w, and is it faster than aptitude for stuff like that?
[14:34] <ifireball> rhetoric: maybe it'll start working at some future upgrade
[14:35] <rhetoric> ifireball, well i figure that will make it less ugly (everything in one script)
[14:35] <rhetoric> ifireball, good point
[14:35] <axelor> kkouwe: not had any experiance with the 64 stuff but doesnt ubuntu have its own libc6 for amd64?
[14:35] <axelor> why is it trying to grab a debian patched one?
[14:35] <Wander_w> pbx: tons faster
[14:35] <pbx> Hm.
[14:35] <arvin_> earthling: 1GB (well enough)
[14:36] <promag> after upgrading to gutsy my network is so slow! sometimes It takes 2/3 minutes to connect to remote hosts. I've seen several posts about ipv6 but none of the solutions work
[14:36] <promag> any thoughts?
[14:36] <JoeyV> question... I've searched high and low, but cant find the answer to it.
[14:36] <JoeyV> How can I change the resolution of the shell, as in, NOT inside of X, but rather if I hit ctrl+alt+F2.  When I do that t access the shell, the letters are giant, and I can't read anything past 7 lines because it is out of the view of my monitor
[14:36] <Proteus> could anyone help me with my mounting problems?
[14:36] <pbx> Wander_w, would switching from aptitude to apt-get on a working (but not mission-critical) machine be unwise?
[14:36] <rhetoric> Proteus, what kind of mounting problems? (that sounds so wrong)
[14:36] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  thats the 'console' and you can set the res at boot time, or use the fbset command to change it on the fly.
[14:36] <Wander_w> pbx: they work side by side without any problem
[14:37] <JoeyV> thanks Dr_willis
[14:37] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  but your issue sounds like the framebuffer is buggy yoy mayt want to disable it competely
[14:37] <earthling> arvin_: wc3 will lag a bit at 1 GB. have you tried after awitching your desktop appearence settings to minimum
[14:37] <JoeyV> how do I disable the framebuffer
[14:37] <Proteus> I'm trying to mount an external drive - which had previously worked fine - but now the magic smoke is gone and I'm suddenly unable to see the automounted partitions
[14:37] <Proteus> the enclosure is new
[14:37] <Wander_w> pbx: You'd see a lot more mission-critical machines using apt-get then aptitude
[14:37] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  the 'nofb' optin to the kernel will do that. edit the menu.lst file. read the comments. :)
[14:37] <axelor> kkouwe: paste me your sources.list
[14:38] <JoeyV> awesome thanksbrother
[14:38] <Oli``> Can anybody suggest a really pretty CPU-usage graphing tool?
[14:38] <rhetoric> Proteus, beyond my knowledge sorry
[14:38] <kkouwe> axelor: pm
[14:38] <Proteus> Oli``, conky
[14:39] <Weasel[DK]> Canonical made their own shutdown command so now i miss the -F option which forced a filesystem check at next boot. How to do that on a *ubuntu system ?
[14:39] <Dr_willis> conky is nice.. takes some tweaking to get it 'just right' :)
[14:40] <Proteus> once conky is all configured, it can look quite pretty
[14:40] <Proteus> and it's lightweight
[14:40] <Oli``> Proteus: I'm looking for something to take screenshots of, not nest it on the desktop. Something like the new KDE4 resource monitor would be cool
[14:40] <Pici> Weasel[DK]: `sudo touch /forcefsck` before you shutdown/reboot/whatever.
[14:40] <axelor> just whack it on pastebin again
[14:40] <Rufus_> how can i change the background image of the terminal? or make it transparent?
[14:40] <Proteus> Oli``, I have no idea
[14:41] <Dr_willis> of course ya got to wonnder what shutdown -F does.. does it touch that file then shutdown?
[14:41] <Rufus_> anyone know?
[14:41] <Dr_willis> Rufus_,  depens on which terminal. and if you are using compiz, and if you want TRUE transparency . or just seeing the wallpaper under neth
[14:41] <Rufus_> just see the wallpaper under it
[14:41] <earthling> Rufus_ : right click on the terminal and select "edit current profile"
[14:42] <Rufus_> thanks
[14:43] <EtteSB> !compiz > etteSB
[14:44] <Weasel[DK]> Pici, nice.. thank you
[14:45] <WinterWeaver> I cannot connect to my Router in Ubuntu, but I can do so in Windows.... can someone assist?
[14:45] <axelor> can try winter :)
[14:45] <WinterWeaver> ^_^
[14:45] <promag> after upgrading to gutsy my network is so slow! sometimes It takes 2/3 minutes to connect to remote hosts. I've seen several posts about ipv6 but none of the solutions work... need help :(
[14:45] <Wander_w> disable ipv6?
[14:46] <promag> how do I do that?
[14:46] <Pici> !ipv6 | promag
[14:46] <ubotu> promag: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:46] <Hippotamus> I'm having problems with burning an ISO with Ubuntu
[14:46] <axelor> winter, do you have any network funtionailty at all?
[14:46] <Wander_w> promag: My solution would be to recompile the kernel.... but that's just me
[14:46] <Wander_w> promag: oh, listen to pici
[14:47] <Hippotamus> I want to burn a DVD-image to a DVD-RW, but I get the error that it's not in ISO 9660 format
[14:47] <foo25> Hey, I've just restored my xorg.conf file after somehow messing it up completely, now when I log back in, Network Manager tells me "No network devices have been found" however I didn't think network devices were mentioned anywhere in the xorg.conf?
[14:47] <chazco> Hi... anyone here using Textmaker (paid version) - TM renders better than OO, but still formatting still doesnt match Word on windows. I'm guessing its font trouble... How can I fix it?
[14:48] <bazhang> Hippotamus: md5 matched?
[14:48] <|Z_E_R_O|> i can't set usb port from virtualbox to the xp virtual machine, do you know why?
[14:48] <Wander_w> foo25: I think you messed up more than just xorg.conf, by the sound of it
[14:48] <axelor> WinterWeaver: If the answer is no, Id like to see the result of an ifconfig in pastebin
[14:48] <Pici> |Z_E_R_O|: try asking in #vbox :)
[14:48] <|Z_E_R_O|> danke
[14:48] <WinterWeaver> axelor, yes... and ... no... :( ... tbh ... I dont even knows whats up with my network. I am able to browse the internet flawlessly, but I am unable usually to connect or even see other computers on the network (that's a topic for another day tho)
[14:48] <JoeyV> Dr_willis, will adding the nofb option affect anything while X.org is running?
[14:48] <Hippotamus> bazhang: yes
[14:48] <foo25> Wander_w: The only files I edited were host, aliases, and xorg, but I restored those all to their previous state
[14:49] <chazco> |Z_E_R_O| - Are you using the OSE version from the repos? If so then it doesnt have USB forwarding
[14:49] <Pici> chazco: /me makes a note of that
[14:49] <bazhang> Hippotamus: that is odd.. using what to burn it? cd/dvd creator or other
[14:49] <axelor> what happens when you try to hit the router management page in your browser?
[14:49] <|Z_E_R_O|> chazco:  yes, what can i do?
[14:49] <WinterWeaver> !pastebin
[14:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:50] <foo25> Wander_w: However, I think there may be something else, because all of a sudden I also cannot open my power options
[14:50] <JoeyV> Anyony who knows: will adding the nofb option at boot affect the graphics while X is running?
[14:50] <chazco> |Z_E_R_O| - You can download the full version from their website... its not open-source, but if thats not an issue then it works fine
[14:50] <Hippotamus> cd/dvd creator
[14:50] <|Z_E_R_O|> ok thanks
[14:50] <Wander_w> foo25: maybe your modules went missing
[14:50] <chazco> np, it got me too when i first tried it :)
[14:51] <Pici> JoeyV: No, no changes to xorg.conf will have any effect while xorg is still running.
[14:51] <Wander_w> JoeyV: No, it will only affect stuff AFTER you do a reboot
[14:51] <foo25> Wander_w: How would that even happen though? =S Is there any way of restoring them?
[14:51] <JoeyV> I know
[14:51] <JoeyV> but what will the affect be, is my question
[14:52] <Xplicit> i want to connect to the ares network, is there any tool in repos to do this or should i use gift and compile the plugin?
[14:52] <JoeyV> guess I'll find out in a few minutes
[14:52] <JoeyV> :)
[14:52] <uberProSkiddie> hey :) problem: i got a working ubuntu on my laptop (Toshiba satellite L30-105) with installed sound drivers.. that doesnt work. I have no idear what soundcard i got (no info in specs, only that is 24bit) and ubuntu doesnt whine, it does plat files but the speakers remain silent. i got ubuntu 7.10.
[14:52] <dejand3> i cant enable sound in my ubuntu, what to do, please help
[14:53] <Pici> !sound | dejand3 uberProSkiddie
[14:53] <ubotu> dejand3 uberProSkiddie: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:53] <Dr_willis> JoeyV,  the framebuffer is (should be) totally unlreated to X.
[14:53] <Wander_w> foo25: well, assuming they really are gone, either apt-get install --reinstall linux-image or recompile and install the modules if you compiled your kernel by hand
[14:53] <Wander_w> foo25: but please check if there are any modules listed in the output of the command "lsmod"
[14:53] <tomahasamoot> I just reinstalled kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, and apt-get isn't working
[14:53] <Xplicit> uberProSkiddie: does your jack word? (e.g plugin headphones in)
[14:54] <tomahasamoot> I also can't enable the nvidia driver
[14:54] <JoeyV> thanks again Doc
[14:54] <tomahasamoot> it's like it doesn't know where to get the packages
[14:55] <foo25> Wander_w: There is quite a large output of modules, including ndiswrapper which I used for my wireless drivers
[14:55] <uberProSkiddie> no :/
[14:55] <WinterWeaver> axelor, when I try to access the router page in firefox, or any browser (even IE4Linux), it will ask for the password... after I entered... it will start loading, but never finishes... sometimes it will load half the page, but it never finishes
[14:55] <Wander_w> foo25: ah, then your modules should be ok
[14:55] <uberProSkiddie> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[14:56] <axelor> hmm, are sessions / cookies working for other pages?
[14:56] <Xplicit> uberProSkiddie: i had a problem on a similar laptop try #alsa they sorted me out, i think you need a special opt in a config file then it should work
[14:56] <Wander_w> foo25: is the radio of your wifi enabled? some laptops have switches to disable them
[14:57] <WinterWeaver> axelor, ya... everything else is working fine
[14:57] <zzz_> tomahasamoot: Does your /etc/apt/sources.list file look okay?
[14:57] <foo25> Wander_w: Yeah, it's fine, I used iwconfig and it's showing the usual signs, apart from connecting =S
[14:57] <promag> !ipv6 | promag
[14:57] <promag> wrong syntax?
[14:57] <zzz_> !ipv6
[14:57] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:57] <foo25> Wander_w: I'm also finding it strange that I can't modify my Power Management settings all of a sudden
[14:57] <Pici> promag: you should have gotten a private message.
[14:57] <Wander_w> foo25: did you rummage through all the options of networkmanager yet?
[14:58] <WinterWeaver> axelor, apparently this router does have issues... but the thing that I cannot understand... it works fine on a newly installed system, and even from the live cd.... but once "something" is installed, it starts doing this
[14:58] <tomahasamoot> zztt: it's there... how do I tell if it's ok?
[14:58] <hunteke> anyone got any suggestions for suspend/sleep not working?
[14:58] <Wander_w> foo25: and what does ifconfig (not iwconfig) say?
[14:58] <rru^> how do i get the window list in the taskbar to fill up the space
[14:58] <hunteke> I can make my machine go to sleep, it's the waking up part that doesn't work
[14:58] <zzz_> tomahasamoot: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[14:58] <foo25> Wander_w: I've had a look, but it's basically telling me I have no network hardware installed
[14:58] <hunteke> it tries for a minute, then goes back to sleep
[14:58] <albertito> Hi! If a bug in launchpad is linked to a debian bug, and the debian bug status changes (in the debian BTS); is the status in launchpad supposed to change automatically?
[14:58] <hunteke> a few times in a row
[14:58] <Xplicit> !ares
[14:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ares - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:58] <hunteke> then I have reboot
[14:58] <tomahasamoot> zztt: it's all commented out... do I need to uncoment it?
[14:58] <hunteke> !suspend
[14:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:59] <hunteke> !sleep
[14:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:59] <Pici> !msgthebot
[14:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:59] <hunteke> noted
[15:00] <foo25> Wander_w: ifconfig is only displaying the loopback
[15:00] <WorkingOnWis1> when I start firefox, I get an error stating the it is running but not responding. I check System Monitor and view all processes, but no firefox. What to do?
[15:00] <WinterWeaver> axelor, do you still want my ifconfig?
[15:00] <zzz_> tomahasamoot: You should uncomment the lines beginning with "deb" and "deb-src".
[15:00] <Wander_w> foo25: did you define it in /etc/network/interfaces? (it should be there)
[15:00] <Wander_w> should NOT
[15:00] <tomahasamoot> zztt: will do, thanks
[15:00] <Wander_w> shouldn't be in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:00] <promag> well ipv6 is disabled, but still slow network
[15:01] <Pici> WorkingOnWis1: Look for firefox-bin, or try a killall firefox-bin
[15:01] <foo25> Wander_w: Hmm, it used to be eth1, however that's not there now, should I just add -
[15:01] <foo25> auto eth1
[15:01] <Wander_w> promag: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[15:01] <foo25> iface eth1 inet dhcp?
[15:01] <wols_> foo25: /sbin/ifconfig -a
[15:01] <wols_> foo25: what is there?
[15:01] <promag> Wander_w: the same I had with feisty :)
[15:02] <Baversjo> How do i login as root in the terminal in Xubuntu-desktop?
[15:02] <Pici> !sudo | Baversjo
[15:02] <ubotu> Baversjo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:02] <Wander_w> foo25: no, I don't believe you should add any interfaces you want managed with networkmanager in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:02] <foo25> wols_: eth0 and lo
[15:02] <wols_> foo25: there is your answer
[15:02] <Baversjo> I have enabled The root account
[15:03] <Arrick> hey all
[15:03] <TheEagle> what's the best programming language to learn FIRST? i have no other experience in coding, apart from PHP and HTML, and sort of MySQL.
[15:03] <Wander_w> promag: And you expect me to know what your configuration in feisty was?
[15:03] <wols_> TheEagle: python
[15:03] <WorkingOnWis1> Pici: there is no firefox anything in System monitor, and killall firefox-bin returns "firefox-bin: no process killed"
[15:03] <Wander_w> TheEagle: whatever you are going to USE
[15:03] <Arrick> I am getting the following error when i am running my drupal install, GD library Not Installed, can someone tell me what I have to install to correct this?
[15:03] <wols_> TheEagle: but it mainly depends WHAT you want to program. the goal determines the tool
[15:03] <rru^> how do i get the window list in the taskbar to fill up the space? in gnome-panel.
[15:03] <Dr_willis> Baversjo,  you mean in the console? or a x terminal? its best to login as a normal and use sudo , or sudo -i, or sudo -s
[15:03] <mattezell> @TheEagle: Ruby is a fun OO language to play with
[15:04] <TheEagle> i just wan't to start programming for a hobby
[15:04] <axelor> zmog skype 2 beta rox o0
[15:04] <foo25> wols_: What do I need to do with that then? (Sorry, haven't dealt with ifconfig much)
[15:04] <Pici> WorkingOnWis1: Anything come back for ps aux | grep firefox
[15:04] <Baversjo> Dr_willis: I mean in the console. Im logged in as a "normal" user and want to access the root account using terminal
[15:04] <tomahasamoot> zztt: I uncommented all the lines and it's still not working, is there a command to "kick it"?
[15:04] <mattezell> @TheEagle: Ruby is comparatively easy to pick up and it is heavily object oriented.
[15:04] <wols_> foo25: have you a eth0 if you simply run "/sbin/ifconfig" with an assigned IP?
[15:05] <Dr_willis> Baversjo,  use one of those sudo commands will get you a root shell in the console.
[15:05] <Pici> Baversjo: you can use `su`, but we highly reccomend not enabling the root account.
[15:05] <WorkingOnWis1> Pici:  it returns "1000     30240  0.0  0.0   5156   840 pts/0    R+   10:04   0:00 grep firefox"
[15:05] <promag> Wander_w: no dude but in feisty it was working 100%
[15:05] <foo25> wols_: I have eth0, but it's the wired connection I believe, and not connected, my wireless was eth1 previously, which isn't included in ifconfig whatsoever
[15:05] <Baversjo> ok thanks :D
[15:05] <sharperguy> anyone got any idea why scp isnt asking me for the password and is just sitting there (sshing nomrally works fine)?
[15:06] <promag> when I boot the system I do for instance apt-get upate and it takes some time (sometimes it timeouts) to connect
[15:06] <Wander_w> foo25: are there any errors in your dmesg regarding eth1?
[15:06] <fromvega> Hello
[15:07] <Wander_w> promag: so what happens if you do nslookup www.slashdot.org in a terminal? does that take long?
[15:07] <Pici> WorkingOnWis1: What about any mozilla references in there?
[15:07] <LOGAN> has ubuntu tools to edit/repair windows registry?
[15:07] <promag> at the moment no
[15:07] <larson9999> ubuntu is nice and all and i've been using it for years now.  but WHY o WHY must evolution be in ubuntu-desktop?
[15:07] <promag> but if I do it after reboot yes
[15:08] <Baversjo> When im in the xubuntu gui i want to make changes in a file. But i cant write to it. How can i open this file with "root" access in the gui?
[15:08] <WorkingOnWis1> Pici: nothing for mozilla either. wierd I know.
[15:08] <foo25> wols_: I don't even see it mentioned
[15:08] <zatic> can someone here recommend a cmd line program that reads meta data from video files like length, resolution, codec, etc?
[15:08] <Wander_w> promag: well, then i still want the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf
[15:08] <LOGAN> any ubuntu+windows channel around?
[15:09] <foo25> Wander_w: I don't even see it mentioned
[15:09] <foo25> wols_: Sorry about that, wrong person
[15:09] <bazhang> LOGAN: ##windows
[15:09] <wols_> foo25: then instead of "eth1" in what you wrote above, use "eth0"
[15:09] <LOGAN> bazhang: they know how to restore using ubuntu?
[15:09] <Wander_w> foo25: but you did see ndiswrapper in lsmod, if I recall correctly? Any messages from ndiswrapper in dmesg?
[15:09] <wols_> you can test manually with "sudo dhclient eth0"
[15:10] <promag> # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
[15:10] <promag> search edg.pt
[15:10] <promag> nameserver 192.168.1.101
[15:10] <promag> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[15:10] <bazhang> LOGAN: uh, no; what is your question in that regards?
[15:10] <promag> Wander_w: there
[15:10] <Wander_w> promag: delete or uncomment search edg.pt
[15:10] <LOGAN> my windows wont boot, need to fix registry. am now on ubuntu live cd
[15:10] <Pici> WorkingOnWis1: Try removing the .parentlock file in ~/.mozilla/firefox/whatever.default/
[15:11] <Baversjo> Is there any good music player for Xubuntu? Cant play mp3 files ATM :P
[15:11] <Wander_w> Baversjo: Amerok
[15:11] <fromvega> I have a problem with flash, could you help-me please? I have just installed Ubuntu 7.10 and made all the updates. I've also installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras witch installed the flashplugin-nonfree package. But Flash isn't being detected within Firefox! It asked to install the plugin and when I said yes it said that the plugin was already installed (what is supposed to be true). What should I do?
[15:11] <Pici> LOGAN: Ask in ##windows, many of them are Linux users as well.
[15:11] <Pici> !flashissues | fromvega
[15:11] <ubotu> fromvega: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:11] <LOGAN> lets hope so
[15:11] <bazhang> LOGAN: are you going to install ubuntu?
[15:11] <foo25> Wander_w: I previously had seen it there, but I tried reinstalling the firmware for my wireless card, and it is no longer listed in lsmod
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3 > Baversjo
[15:11] <LOGAN> bazhang: using it to fix windows for now
[15:12] <bazhang> oh then better head to ##windows
[15:12] <Pici> LOGAN: Fixing windows is a windows problem, not an Ubuntu one.
[15:12] <Wander_w> foo25: well, there's yerr problem1
[15:12] <foo25> wols_: Use "eth0" where, sorry?
[15:12] <LOGAN> Pici: i dont have any other option then use ubuntu
[15:12] <fromvega> Pici: thanks, but wath about the other free plugin? is it good?
[15:12] <lhen> I can not get ekiga to work
[15:13] <wols_> 16:01 < foo25> iface eth1 inet dhcp?
[15:13] <lhen> anyone can help?
[15:13] <ramrebol_> Hi, mi gnome don't start..   and there are not error messages, just don't start..   somebody can help me??
[15:13] <Pici> fromvega: I personally have had issues with it.
[15:13] <foo25> Wander_w: I'm having no luck this week =P What to do now...
[15:13] <fromvega> Pici, ok I'll try to fix this problem thanks again
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ramrebol_: was it working before
[15:13] <Wander_w> foo25: how did you install ndiswrapper the first time?
[15:13] <foo25> wols_: Add that to /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:14] <bazhang> lhen: need more info
[15:14] <wols_> foo25: pastebin your interfaces file. it should already be there
[15:14] <lhen> bazhang: it seems some lib are corrupt
[15:14] <Baversjo> Can you install Amerok on Xubuntu?
[15:14] <foo25> Wander_w: After installing Ubuntu, I used a python script which most people use to install the drivers along with ndiswrapper for my wireless card, but now I only have the option of removing or installing the firmware
[15:14] <ramrebol_> yesJack_Sparrow: yes..  it was working whitout problems for 3 months
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ramrebol_: Did you update recently?
[15:15] <bazhang> lhen: run it from the terminal and then pastebin (not here in the channel) the error messages--dont paste here
[15:15] <Pici> Baversjo: yes you can install Amarok in xubuntu
[15:15] <wols_> foo25: automatix?
[15:15] <brobostigon> Baversjo: of course, yes yoy can.
[15:15] <ramrebol_> yesterday..   the recomendates updates of sinaptics
[15:15] <Baversjo> Using the Kubuntu release?
[15:15] <Wander_w> foo25: What kind of wifi card are you using anyway?
[15:15] <Remanifest> I'm getting an error when I try to download mysql...
[15:15] <lhen> bazhang: what's the command?
[15:15] <Remanifest> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:15] <Remanifest> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[15:15] <Pici> Remanifest: What kind on error?
[15:16] <bazhang> !paste | lhen
[15:16] <Pici> Remanifest: Do you already have a package manager open?
[15:16] <ubotu> lhen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ramrebol_: W have had a fair number of people with problems that had used automatix or envy to install things in their systems (both bad ideas)
[15:16] <Remanifest> Pici: Nope.
[15:16] <foo25> wols_: You want a copy of the interfaces file?
[15:16] <wols_> Remanifest: either you didn't use sudo or another package maanger is still open
[15:16] <wols_> foo25: I want to know if you used automatix?
[15:16] <Remanifest> wols_: How can I kill that other package manager?
[15:16] <wols_> Remanifest: end it
[15:16] <foo25> Wander_w: Broadcome 4338 I think it is
[15:16] <Remanifest> wols_: Yeah, I don't see it open...
[15:17] <bazhang> lhen: start the program in terminal type ekiga there and see what error messages there are; then paste the error messages to the pastebin link I just gave you--do not post error messages in the channel
[15:17] <foo25> wols_: No, not to my knowledge
[15:17] <ramrebol_> mm..   I don't use automatics, only add/remove applications...
[15:17] <wols_> Remanifest: synaptic? adept?
[15:17] <Wander_w> foo25 you might want to try to use the opensource drivers
[15:17] <wols_> foo25: you said python script for your wlan card
[15:17] <Wander_w> foo25: apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[15:17] <volk> anyone know of any security site where I can subscribe to receive vulnerability reports only for specific software packages?
[15:17] <Blinkiz> I would like to start using software raid1 on 2x320gb drives I will add as filestorage. Does it exist a nice gui to manage software raid?
[15:17] <lhen> bazhang: I start 'ekiga' and nothing happens ...
[15:18] <sidelil> excuse me, is there a shortcut to open the main menu?
[15:18] <foo25> wols_: The one used here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[15:18] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hey
[15:18] <sidelil> (with the keyboard)
[15:18] <N`1ck> Hi....
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ramrebol_: Please use the pasetbin to post your   /etc/apt/sources.list   file  and provide this channel with the link.
[15:18] <foo25> Wander_w: Problem is I can't use it, that's why I have to use this along with most other people - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[15:18] <bazhang> lhen: what error messages does it give you when you run it normally? please be precise
[15:18] <Remanifest> wols_: Pici: That's weird.  My time was being updated from the server, and that's what was causing the issue.
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: Morning...
[15:18] <Pici> Remanifest: Ahh, I've had that happen before.
[15:18] <amikrop> Using ffmpeg, how can I convert an flv to mpeg and to mp3, with the maximum bitrate?
[15:19] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: morning
[15:19] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: very busy?
[15:19] <Remanifest> Pici: Yeah, it made me go "huh???"
[15:19] <Remanifest> :P
[15:19] <lhen> bazhang: there is no display of error
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: YEs, in the middle of one at the moment.
[15:19] <bazhang> lhen: then what is the problem? does not work is not quite descriptive enough
[15:19] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: can i help?^^
[15:20] <N`1ck> Hi..thr.
[15:20] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: as far as you (may) know, we have a contract...you help me and i will help you back ;)
[15:20] <sidelil> excuse me, is there a keyboard shortcut to open the main menu? I don't have a mouse now...
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: Sure, ramrebol_ cant get in after the update, either he used automatix or he just needs to reset xserver....
[15:20] <tho1> lhen open a terminal and at the prompt type 'ekiga'. That way you should see some indication of the problem and we can help further
[15:20] <foo25> Wander_w: I've also just noticed, Ubuntu no longer recognises the fact I have a battery in my laptop, I'm thinking the modules may be damaged, or some lost?
[15:20] <lhen> bazhang: it does not "come up" at all
[15:21] <promag> Wander_w: I think removing search edg.pt should resolve the problem?
[15:21] <lhen> bazhang: I am using xubuntu
[15:21] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: uuuh
[15:21] <|Z_E_R_O|> there's a way to format a compactflash into a photo camera?
[15:21] <bazhang> lhen: but it does in the terminal?
[15:21] <pawan> hi
[15:21] <promag> I mean, do you think removing search edg.pt should resolve the problem?
[15:21] <lhen> bazhang: no
[15:21] <bazhang> lhen: is it installed?
[15:21] <lhen> bazhang: yes, via synaptics
[15:22] <mozzer> hello
[15:22] <pawan_> hi
[15:22] <bazhang> lhen: and there is an icon in the gnome menu?
[15:22] <mozzer> how can i make wifi-radar run on start up?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: If you have a simple question, I can probably handle it, else someone other than me will need to help you.
[15:22] <rodolfo> ramrebol_: dude are you there? lets get it started
[15:22] <lhen> bazhang: yes
[15:23] <ramrebol_> yesJack_Sparrow: sorry, but I'm using links2 and, how can send you the log file??
[15:23] <mozzer> how can i make wifi-radar run on start up?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > ramrebol_
[15:23] <foo25> Wander_w: wols_: I'll be back in 5 mins, I'm going to get my router upstairs
[15:23] <loulou> hi everybody
[15:23] <ramrebol_> rodolfo: yes, I'm tring to send a file, bus I can't paste in paste bin   :P..
[15:24] <loulou> i have a problem with eclipse
[15:24] <Blinkiz> I would like to start using software raid1 on 2x320gb drives I will add as filestorage. Does it exist a nice gui to manage software raid?
[15:24] <rodolfo> ramrebol_: thats easy as say "hi"...hit alt+F2 and type gnome-terminal
[15:24] <loulou> how can i delete completely eclipse
[15:24] <loulou> to reinstall it
[15:25] <Pici> loulou: sudo aptitude purge eclipse
[15:25] <bazhang> lhen: what about alt f2 ekiga
[15:25] <rodolfo> ramrebol_: is it already opened? if its, just select the text you wanna paste and right click on it...select copy
[15:25] <loulou> i tried but i got an error message when restarting
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinkiz: I would advise against it for file storage, opinions will differ
[15:26] <mozzer> how can i make wifi-radar run on start up?
[15:26] <rodolfo> ramrebol_: then, go back to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and hit ctrl+v
[15:26] <lhen> bazhang:  No response at all
[15:26] <Pici> !startup | mozzer
[15:26] <ubotu> mozzer: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[15:26] <loulou> ctrl+shift+v
[15:26] <ramrebol_> rodolfo: sorry, say cannot open display
[15:27] <loulou> pls
[15:27] <Blinkiz> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, my goal is to have a disk where I can store important stuff and not having to worry about hard disk crashes. The file storage will not be accessed so much...
[15:27] <bazhang> lhen: in the terminal type sudo apt-get install ekiga
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinkiz: So you are looking to mirror it not stripe it for speed?
[15:27] <loulou> any answer?
[15:27] <Blinkiz> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[15:27] <lhen> bazhang:  already newest version it says
[15:28] <MikeH> anyone use evolution know how I can get it to apply filters to messages as they are recieved?
[15:28] <loulou> how can i delete eclipse completely
[15:28] <bazhang> lhen: are you in normal mode now? or have you become root user
[15:28] <lhen> bazhang:  via sudo = root, no?
[15:29] <kitty_> loulou, how did you install eclipse?
[15:29] <lhen> bazhang:  I should be root during apt-get install
[15:29] <kitty_> loulou, what is eclipse anyway?
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinkiz: If you anr not accessing it much, a simple clone or dd copy or backup to it would most likely work just as well..  We have a help page for raid if you would like the link.
[15:29] <cbx33> hey peeps when runnign a dpkg-reconfigure on linux-image, how can i get it to include a module I want
[15:29] <cbx33> I need the raid modules
[15:29] <cbx33> at the mo it won't boot to my new /dev/md0
[15:29] <WorkingOnWis1> Pici: Thanks for the help. My firefox problem was caused by a rogue addin. Had to find and delete it manually, but its fixed now. When I was looking for the lock file I say a file with an invalid filename, and tracked its owner down. Thanks
[15:29] <rincewind1013> i'm having issues installing the 2.6.22-14 kernel update, "No GRUB directory found"
[15:30] <Blinkiz> Jack_Sparrow: yes, please provide me with that link
[15:30] <cbx33> because the raid modules aren't there
[15:30] <bazhang> lhen: indeed, or something close to it; I was just wondering if there was some permissions issue as to why it would not respond
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[15:30] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:30] <cbx33> any one got any ideas
[15:30] <Pici> WorkingOnWis1: Ah, good to hear
[15:30] <lhen> bazhang:  i believe some lib conflicting
[15:30] <rincewind1013> i'm having issues installing the 2.6.22-14 kernel update, "No GRUB directory found" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49823/
[15:30] <bazhang> lhen: what leads you to believe that?
[15:31] <cbx33> I'm using software raid
[15:31] <ramrebol_> yesJack_Sparrow: How can send you mi /etc/apt/sources.list  ??
[15:31] <lhen> bazhang:  i installed ymessenger - it worked once
[15:31] <cbx33> all i need is for the initramfs to have the raid10 module
[15:31] <cbx33> any ideas
[15:31] <foo25_> Wander_w: wols_: Back now, sorry about that, I've just connected my laptop using an ethernet cable directly to my router, but it won't even recognise the wired connection
[15:32] <brandon_> omg i cant believe i havent asked about this in this chat
[15:32]  * foo25_ slaps foo25 around a bit with a large trout
[15:32] <Fish-Guts> hi folks. i'm having some trouble getting my gcc to work. i always get the output "C Compiler cannot create executables". Any ideas?
[15:32] <brandon_> i use it to learn lamp but nothing else duhh..
[15:32] <Nostahl> anyone have a url to where i can find how to set up ndiswraper and xubuntu to auto load my wireless adapter on bootup
[15:32] <lhen> bazhang:  ymessenger also does not work now
[15:32] <brandon_> anywho... where can i find out about  small electronics like jsut leds and wirless oeration?
[15:32] <bazhang> lhen: what is this lib conflicting of which you speak?
[15:33] <DebianUT> I installed emerald, just to try it, but now I can't return to metacity because when I uninstall emerald windows borders dissapear, the only way is turning off visual efects, but if I turn them on the windows border dissapear, any help?
[15:33] <cbx33> no raid gurus?
[15:33] <lhen> bazhang:  no idea (just a thought)
[15:33] <brandon_> like making leds fade flash by remote?
[15:33] <Jekkaman> hi
[15:33] <Jekkaman> can anybody help me to configure my laptop graphics card?
[15:33] <Blinkiz> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you for the links about raid. It was not really what I was looking for. I will use mdadm if no gui based software raid exist. My question is, does it exist a GUI to control software raid?
[15:34] <hazel1> how do I select Preferred Applications, for ALL programs?
[15:34] <Jekkaman> i've been trying hard to configure it but i'm not having any success
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Blinkiz: Not that I am aware of (at least in our repos)
[15:34] <Jekkaman> the graphics card is from my laptop Fujitsu siemens Amilo Pro v3515
[15:34] <Arbitre> unban Kirua !
[15:35] <Jekkaman> i think it's via unichrome9 hc
[15:35] <Blinkiz> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for the answers. I will be going now...
[15:35] <stewart> i cant view flash documents in firefox. It asked me to install the adobe flash player... i did however it still does not seem to work. Any ideas?
[15:35] <Jekkaman> use automatix
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > stewart
[15:35] <kitty_> stewart, how did you install flash?
[15:35] <bazhang> arbitre what?
[15:35] <Pici> !automatix | Jekkaman
[15:35] <ubotu> Jekkaman: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Jekkaman: Bad bad bad
[15:36] <larson9999> stewart, read the topic
[15:36] <Jekkaman> sorry i'm a newbie
[15:36] <foo25_> Does anyone know is it possible to have Ubuntu re-recognise and reinstall all drivers?
[15:36] <ikonia> foo25_: it does that automaticlly on boot up
[15:36] <Jekkaman> does anybody know how to install unichrome9 hc?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Jekkaman: If you have used it... I would suggest you reinstall before investing much time and effort into your setup
[15:37] <mattwalston> sp
[15:37] <stewart> i clicked on install missing plugins
[15:37] <stewart> with in firefox
[15:37] <larson9999> Jekkaman, i gave up and bought an nividia card !
[15:37] <foo25_> ikonia: It doesn't seem to do it for me, I can't use any of my hardware all of a sudden
[15:37] <dcordes> Hello everybody. Is somebody with Playstation 3 here who can tell me how to get 802.11g and gigabit ethernet modules working with firmware 2.1?
[15:37] <hazel1> stewart: I had the same problem.. however It worked for me when I installed it "manually" from Adobe's homepage, very simple: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[15:37] <ikonia> foo25_: what hardware and what way
[15:37] <Jekkaman> its a laptop
[15:37] <Pici> dcordes: way offtopic. Try ##hardware maybe
[15:37] <ikonia> dcordes: playstation 3 is not an official supported platform.
[15:37] <Jekkaman> this is an integrated graphics processor
[15:37] <larson9999> foo25, have you messed with adding users to groups?
[15:37] <ikonia> dcordes: remember though, the hypervisor will make it tough .
[15:37] <kitty_> stewart, i always install manually -it's quite easy
[15:38] <foo25_> ikonia: Network cards, laptop battery, power management, I can't even open Hardware Information
[15:38] <larson9999> stewart, the topic addresses the fact that install flash via firefox is broken
[15:38] <foo25_> larson9999: Not that I know of
[15:38] <dcordes> ikonia, Pici not at all, ps3 is powerpc. Is not there ubuntu for x86 powerpc and x86_64?!?!?!
[15:38] <ikonia> foo25_: what happens if you do ifconfig -a
[15:38] <Pici> dcordes: ah, I misread. anyway...
[15:38] <Pici> !ppc | dcordes
[15:38] <ubotu> dcordes: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[15:38] <stewart> the thing is... its alreay installed
[15:38] <stewart> but it still does not work
[15:38] <ikonia> dcordes: ppc is not supported by ubuntu as a plaform any more.
[15:38] <dcordes> ikonia, I see that
[15:38] <larson9999> foo25, when that happened to me it was because i removed myself from a group i shouldn't have.  maybe not your problem though
[15:38] <Pici> dcordes: Try the Forums, they have a subforum for ppc
[15:38] <ikonia> dcordes: plus it's not PPC - the hypervisor makes thing more complex.
[15:39] <foo25_> ikonia: It displays eth0 (which was my wired connection - no longer working) and lo
[15:39] <lhen> bazhang: any other idea, pls?
[15:39] <dcordes> ikonia, I know about the virtualization layer. this won't help me out though
[15:39] <kitty_> stewart, for fiesty :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[15:39] <larson9999> stewart, will you please read the topic?   as i said, it's addressed there.
[15:39] <ikonia> foo25_: ok so it displays the card.
[15:39] <ewook> more like ppc on stereoids :)
[15:39] <Pici> !flashissues | stewart
[15:39] <ubotu> stewart: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:39] <ikonia> foo25_: so the card is there, and just needs configuring.
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> stewart: Flash is broken.. even though it shows installed. it will not work
[15:39] <foo25_> larson9999: How did you resolve the issue?
[15:39] <dcordes> ikonia, I adore your wisdom
[15:39] <bazhang> lhen: try to uninstall and then reinstall ekiga, see what that does
[15:40] <foo25_> ikonia: It doesn't however display my wireless card
[15:40] <lhen> bazhang:  will do
[15:40] <larson9999> foo25, by doing what the topic says to do.
[15:40] <quaal> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied.
[15:40] <bazhang> dcordes visit the forums please
[15:40] <quaal> i'm getting this when i open konqueror or k3b
[15:40] <quaal> so any kde app apparently
[15:40] <quaal> after upgrade to 7.10 it seems
[15:40] <foo25_> larson9999: But how did you know which groups you should be in and which I shouldn't
[15:41] <stewart> thank you all.. i might wait for the fix then
[15:41] <ikonia> foo25_: have you changed any groups yes/no ?
[15:41] <quaal> anyone know what it means?
[15:41] <foo25_> ikonia: Never
[15:41] <ikonia> foo25_: ok, so forget that.
[15:42] <ikonia> foo25_: did your wirless card work before ?
[15:42] <larson9999> foo25, oh, that wasn't for you.  how did i resolve that?  i found somewhere online that told me the default groups for unbuntu and added myself to those.
[15:42] <foo25_> larson9999: Thanks
[15:43] <ramrebol_> yesJack_Sparrow: uff..  sorry, can you help me??
[15:43] <cbx33> how do I add a module to the initramfs
[15:43] <cbx33> ????
[15:43] <foo25_> ikonia: What happened was, I was doing a few performance tweaks, and in doing so editted xorg.conf which proved fatal for the system, had to restore that using a separate xorg.conf file I generated using a different harddrive. I could then boot up normally, but it seems most of my hardware is now unrecognised
[15:44] <ramrebol_> send you the /etc/apt/sources.list file??
[15:44] <ikonia> foo25_: what where these performance tweaks ? xorg does not control your hardware
[15:44] <ikonia> foo25_: please be %100 honest.
[15:44] <capt-rogers> i awesomely fdisk'd my ubuntu box...removed all partitions and wrote changes...yet the box is up and running...i am 99.99% sure if i reboot it..it will never boot again...Any ideas on rewriting the partitions back..will that help?   Cant hurt at this point.....
[15:44] <ikonia> capt-rogers: you can't write partition tables on inuse tidks
[15:44] <ikonia> disks
[15:45] <foo25_> ikonia: I edited the hosts file and aliases file to disable IPv6, which I later restored, and removed the wacom devices from xorg.conf, installed preload, and that's all, then I rebooted to make sure everything was working, and well, it wasn't
[15:45] <lhen> bazhang: same - ekiga will not start at all
[15:45] <capt-rogers> apparently you can because i deleted all partitions on my live ubuntu box....it shows as a blank drive right now....
[15:45] <chazco> Whats the best way to listen to BBC Radio on the internet? They're realplayer streams, so I guess thats the only option
[15:45] <ikonia> foo25_: none of that should break your hardware
[15:46] <foo25_> ikonia: Exactly, that's why I'm so confused
[15:46] <LOGAN> Some folders I have no access to under ubuntu and cannot delete a folder in it
[15:46] <ikonia> capt-rogers: no you can't. Your reading a disk that has not be re-parsed as it's not been rebooted
[15:46] <LOGAN> I tried setting create and delete but it restores to none
[15:46] <kitty_> LOGAN, like which?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> capt-rogers: what does sudo fdisk -l   show
[15:46] <capt-rogers> ikona, so if i reboot this box..what do you think will happen?
[15:46] <ikonia> capt-rogers: your box will die and not come back up
[15:46] <LOGAN> kitty_: program files folder from windows
[15:46] <LOGAN> Im using live cd
[15:47] <king> I CANT UES CAM
[15:47] <bazhang> LOGAN: you back from ##windows?
[15:47] <Wander_w> I CANT UES CAPSLOCK
[15:47] <LOGAN> bazhang:  yeah they told me to die
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps > king
[15:47] <mohamed> why?
[15:47] <lhen> bazhang:  sorry, you lost me ##windows
[15:47] <king> WEBCAM
[15:48] <bazhang> LOGAN: ouch. you thinking of using ubuntu now :}
[15:48] <mohamed> what is the matter?
[15:48] <capt-rogers> fdisk -l show  <---shows nothing.....
[15:48] <ikonia> capt-rogers: the partition table has been destroyed
[15:48] <LOGAN> bazhang: lol well i cannot use all my software
[15:48] <foo25_> ikonia: I'd simply reinstall, but I've already done that earlier in the week, and the updates took around 5 hours, plus with the amount of customisation I've done, I'd rather find an easier solution
[15:48] <ikonia> capt-rogers: on reboot ubuntu will re-read it and you'll fail to boot
[15:48] <LOGAN> but i guess im stuck for now wile ubuntu live cd
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> king: No one will help you until you lose the caps and form a complete question
[15:48] <bazhang> lhen: only ekiga does not work?
[15:48] <gidz> it seems as if nvidia drivers suddenly is blacklisted
[15:48] <lhen> bazhang:  ymessenger also does not work
[15:49] <ikonia> foo25_: 1.) exactly what hardware is not working 2.) did it ever work before
[15:49] <gidz> after a reebot
[15:49] <gidz> where is the blacklist
[15:49] <bazhang> lhen: how did you install yahoo messenger?
[15:49] <lhen> bazhang:  downloaded rpm and alien
[15:49] <nanoman> can anyone take a look at my python code? something's wrong with it and I can't figure it out
[15:49] <ikonia> nanoman: join #python
[15:49] <nanoman> ikonia thanks
[15:49] <king> MY  WEBCAM WORKS BUT  NOT WITH KOPETE
[15:49] <Pici> !caps | king
[15:49] <ubotu> king: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:49] <capt-rogers> thats why i think if i can delete it..i should be able to rewrite the partitions back...and have at least some chance of it working...whereas if i reboot it now,  i have almost no chance of it working...only issue is..i need to know what the default ubuntu 7.04 partition table looks like....
[15:50] <lhen> bazhang:  wish I never installed ymessenger
[15:50] <gidz> !blacklist
[15:50] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[15:50] <Blazer11> is there a way to change symbolic links in /sys/bus/pci/devices
[15:50] <gidz> thx ubotu
[15:50] <ikonia> capt-rogers: you won't be able to re-write the partitions as the disk hasn't be parsed
[15:50] <LOGAN> sorry for being stupid but doesnt Ubuntu ask confirmation of file deletes?
[15:50] <ikonia> capt-rogers: in reality it's in an unknown state
[15:50] <foo25_> ikonia: So far I've noticed that network hardware won't work, power management ie. no recognisation of laptop battery and inability to change options, and also that I cannot view Hardware Information will not open from the Preferences menu. Previously last night, all hardware working fine
[15:50] <bazhang> king: dont use caps
[15:50] <kitty_> LOGAN, no
[15:51] <bazhang> lhen: after installing messenger is when things started breaking?
[15:51] <ikonia> foo25_: what happens when you try to open hardware information ?
[15:51] <ikonia> foo25_: is there anything unusual in the syslog ?
[15:51] <lhen> bazhang:  correct.  I am now apt-get remove ymesenger
[15:51] <Pici> LOGAN: Not if you use the terminal
[15:51] <ramrebol_> mi gnome don't start..   and there are not error messages, just don't start..   somebody can help me??
[15:51] <kitty_> LOGAN, it depends how you delete the file....
[15:51] <LOGAN> can't confirmation be activated?
[15:52] <LOGAN> just select file and press delete
[15:52] <Blazer11> is there a way to change symbolic links in /sys/bus/pci/devices
[15:52] <kitty_> LOGAN, in Nautilus I think it asks you ,doesnt it?
[15:52] <mavi-> LOGAN: that moves the file to the trashcan
[15:52] <lhen> bazhang:  ymessenger gone but ekiga still not running
[15:52] <mavi-> LOGAN: then it asks you when you empty it
[15:52] <king> can any one help me with web cam
[15:52] <mavi-> LOGAN: if you want dialog and delete then use shift-delete
[15:53] <chazco> I'm trying to download RealPlayer from real.com, but the download wont work... where else can I get it safely?
[15:53] <LOGAN> before moving to the trashcan I like confirmation lol
[15:53] <bazhang> lhen: how did you install yahoo messenger? is it in the software repositories?
[15:53] <Pici> !real > chazco (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[15:53] <LOGAN> cant I switch del and shift del functions?
[15:53] <chazco> Pici?
[15:53] <lhen> bazhang:  download rpm from yahoo.com
[15:53] <lhen> bazhang:  then alien it
[15:53] <Pici> !alien | lhen
[15:54] <Pici> chazco: see the private message from ubotu....
[15:54] <ubotu> lhen: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:54] <chazco> I see it... what about it?
[15:54] <bazhang> lhen: uh oh
[15:54] <Blazer11> can someone help me please
[15:54] <lhen> bazhang:  there were some libraries to be installed which I believe is now the issue
[15:54] <herbalise> can somebody point me to a valid repo for Avant Windows Navigator and Ubuntu 7.10
[15:54] <Pici> chazco: the realplayer codes are some of the restricted codecs you can install.
[15:54] <chazco> Ive got them installed then, they dont work.
[15:55] <Nikster> Hi, I was hoping someone could help me, my windows installation has become corrupt on my 2nd pc and there was some data on the desktop I need, I'm trying to boot from ubuntu and that works but when i try to access the drive it says "windows is hibernated", i was wondering if theres any way to ignore it as all iwant to do is copy the data to asafe place
[15:55] <bazhang> lhen: your system may be in big trouble--best to back up important stuff now.
[15:55] <sidelil> can anyone suggest me a guide (or a program) to have the media center on ubuntu?
[15:55] <kitty_> Blazer11, whats the problem?
[15:55] <ikonia> Nikster: join ##windows
[15:55] <foo25_> ikonia: "Failure registering capabilities with primary security module." "WARNING: Couldn't authenticate user" Perhaps those?
[15:55] <Blazer11> kitty_ is there a way to change symbolic links in /sys/bus/pci/devices
[15:55] <lhen> bazhang:  can not - too many modifications now
[15:55] <Nikster> no i want to use ubuntu to mount the drive
[15:56] <Nikster> not trying to fix windows
[15:56] <Nikster> just need the data from it
[15:56] <ikonia> foo25_: ok, thats pretty serious
[15:56] <larson9999> capt-rogers, i had a similar issue and testdisk was able to recover for me.
[15:56] <malva1> elo
[15:56] <ikonia> foo25_: you've done more than tweak xorg and the host file
[15:56] <Pici> !mythtv | sidelil
[15:56] <ubotu> sidelil: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[15:56] <lhen> bazhang:  sudo ekiga works!
[15:56] <chazco> Pici - managed to find acopy of the realplayer installer on a backup, will try that and see
[15:56] <bazhang> Nikster: best to get a knoppix disk or some other rescue disk--this is ubuntu support channel, for those using ubuntu
[15:56] <Pici> chazco: good luck
[15:56] <sidelil> Pici thanks
[15:56] <kitty_> Nikster, can't help you with that, but if I were in your situation I would use Knoppix
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikster: the problem is not the mount, it is the fact that the windows os has it locked down
[15:57] <Nikster> ah ok thank you, i tried knoppix but it wouldnt even boot, i'll try again
[15:57] <dcordes> can't be I'm the only one with ps3 on freenode
[15:57] <qkr> what's wrong when I try to install ubuntu 7.10 64bit version and I get a blank screen after I select "install" from the cd menu
[15:57] <bazhang> lhen: then it is permission issues after all (which I suggested only about an hour ago :{ )
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikster: I agree with kitty_
[15:57] <ikonia> kitty_: why use knoppix over ubuntu to mount a windows drive (genuiny curiosity)
[15:57] <lhen> bazhang:  tks!
[15:57] <chazco> hmm... Pici - were you refering to the helix plugins as being installed btw? If so then they're not fully compatible with Real player formats (especially some streaming versions)
[15:57] <lhen> bazhang:  where to look,pls?
[15:57] <foo25_> ikonia: I don't understand how, because that's all I done, however I just found this as well "ndiswrapper: device eth1 removed" which is my wireless adapter which now isn't working =S
[15:58] <Pici> chazco: I was, and was not aware of that. Noted.
[15:58] <Nikster> i was hoping to use ubuntu cos knoppix is not booting, are there any other distros you would recommend
[15:58] <chazco> Ah ok, that explains it. Thanks anyway :)
[15:58] <ikonia> foo25_: so your also using ndiswrapper
[15:58] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu  should be able to read the ntfs disks, You may need to manually mount them.
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: I have had really good luck with using knoppix on stubborn windows systems
[15:58] <Blazer11> kitty_ ?
[15:58] <Dr_willis> Puppy Linux, and DSL are also live cd's worth having in your PC toolbox
[15:59] <bazhang> lhen: after you used alien and now have to use sudo to launch an application like ekiga, I fear your system may be compromised-- I fear to suggest anything else.
[15:59] <foo25_> ikonia: I was, yeah
[15:59] <Peeco> Im using the "The CD image approach" to install ubuntu from my HDD in winXP.  Has anyone used this approach before and had any problems??
[15:59] <ikonia> foo25_: have a good solid thing about what else you have done
[15:59] <Peeco> (from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows)
[15:59] <ader10> I've made a grub graphical screen, it's 640x480, in "bolt.xpm.gz", and there's a symlink in /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz to it. When I boot, it gets verrry ugly and has vertical yellow stripes and distorted color. What's wrong with it?
[15:59] <ikonia> Peeco: I strongly advise you not to do that
[15:59] <Peeco> Oh
[15:59] <lhen> bazhang:  noted.  I will see what I can do now
[16:00] <lhen> bazhang:  tks!
[16:00] <lhen> bazhang:  will leave now ...
[16:00] <Peeco> I've figured this seems to be mu only option due to pc limitations
[16:00] <ikonia> Peeco: that install will not be supported by the ubuntu community
[16:00] <foo25_> ikonia: Apparently "Failure registering capabilities with primary security module." isn't an error, but a message showing that something is trying to start when it has already been started, and isn't to worry about
[16:00] <Peeco> ikonia: how come?
[16:00] <ikonia> foo25_: it is something to worry about.
[16:01] <ikonia> Peeco: because that is not an ubuntu install method so it's results will not be supported
[16:01] <king> how can i get yahoo or aol im that works with webcam  for ubuntu
[16:01] <chazco> Pici - it worked :)
[16:01] <Pici> chazco: Yay
[16:01] <ikonia> foo25_: check the modules that are loaded in reference to your hardware
[16:02] <foo25_> ikonia: I did, ndiswrapper is no longer there. To be honest I think it'll be easiest if I just backup my files and wipe it
[16:02] <ikonia> foo25_: ok
[16:02] <LOGAN> how do I search for a file by filename?
[16:02] <ikonia> LOGAN: find
[16:02] <ader10> LOGAN: slocate
[16:03] <LOGAN> ah I found the search button
[16:03] <Peeco> ikonia: why is the guide in the ubuntu community documentation?
[16:03] <larson9999> king, i don't think you can.  you can webcam with ekiga nicely though and i hear qnext has a good webcam chat
[16:03] <ikonia> Peeco: because that is community solution, not an official ubuntu solution
[16:03] <LOGAN> hmm search doesnt give any results?
[16:03] <santos_luis> LOGAN: sudo updatedb  and then slocate
[16:04] <LOGAN> santos from the file manager
[16:04]  * cMinion hates the nettiquete where exchange of information is kept to absolute survival and general confirmations is a no-go
[16:04] <ikonia> santos_luis: locate will only search specific file systems
[16:04] <ader10> I've made a grub graphical screen, it's 640x480, in "bolt.xpm.gz", and there's a symlink in /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz to it. When I boot, it gets verrry ugly and has vertical yellow stripes and distorted color. What's wrong with it?
[16:04] <santos_luis> ikonia: :)
[16:04] <ikonia> cMinion: I hate pointless /me comments in a busy channel, please stop
[16:04] <LOGAN> it is possible so search from the GUI for a file, right?
[16:05] <ikonia> LOGAN: sure
[16:05] <Peeco> However the UNetbootin approach is recommended?
[16:05] <ikonia> Peeco: not by me
[16:05] <Peeco> I see
[16:06] <Peeco> Are you aware of any bugs in the aforementioned approach?
[16:06] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up a test server with feisty, and i created a user that can edit any source code directory by making the user a member of each group and setting the sgid bit. Now the user doies not autohome on an ftp login. How do I autohome the ftp login?
[16:06] <LOGAN> well search stays empty. seems like it does not seatch subfolders
[16:06] <ikonia> Peeco: I don't rate the method personally, but thats my personal opinion
[16:06] <LOGAN> muse be because im using ubuntu in live mode
[16:06] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: authome ?
[16:06] <LOGAN> must*
[16:06] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: do you mean does not have a default home dir in the ftp environment
[16:07] <Dr_willis> ader10,  those image files have to be of a very specfic size/format/ and pallet. what little i messed with them.. it was a real pain.
[16:07] <ikonia> LOGAN: ubuntu live mode is a livecd
[16:07] <dbrewer_rjr> ikonia: i want the user to end up in /home/user when they login via ftp
[16:07] <ikonia> LOGAN: there are no real file systems
[16:07] <LOGAN> ikonia: well i know the file name exist yet it produces no results
[16:07] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: thats an ftp daemon config
[16:07] <ikonia> LOGAN: what file
[16:07] <LOGAN> and yes im on a life session
[16:07] <LOGAN> a file called system
[16:08] <ikonia> LOGAN: did you make the file ?
[16:08] <LOGAN> no its on the drive
[16:08] <ikonia> LOGAN: have you mounted the drive ?
[16:08] <Peeco> I'll have to give it a bash as its my only option.  Thanks for the heads up!
[16:08] <ikonia> LOGAN: ubuntu does not create a file called "system"
[16:08] <LOGAN> ikonia: its under the list
[16:08] <enigma_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:08] <ikonia> under the list ?
[16:08] <enigma_> can some one help me?
[16:09] <LOGAN> ikonia: i did not say ubuntu made that file
[16:09] <ikonia> enigma_: have you done dpkg --configure -a  like the error suggested
[16:09] <ikonia> LOGAN: I asked you if you made the file
[16:09] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  if you know where the file is, mount the drive you are looking in and find the file
[16:09] <LOGAN> and I said its on the drive
[16:09] <enigma_> i dont know where to do it ;:/
[16:09] <Blazer11> is there a way to change symbolic links in /sys/bus/pci/devices
[16:09] <ikonia> LOGAN: yes, is the drive mounted
[16:10] <LOGAN> drives are mounted
[16:10] <dbrewer_rjr> ikonia: yup it looks like I can configure that in proftpd.conf. thanks. I can be really thickheaded sometimes.
[16:10] <ikonia> LOGAN: and in the "search for files" gui what is the "look in folder" set to
[16:10] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: no big deal, easy to miss sometimes
[16:11] <Blazer11> hello please someone help me
[16:11] <ikonia> Blazer11: ask a question then
[16:11] <Blazer11> is there a way to change symbolic links in /sys/bus/pci/devices
[16:11] <ikonia> Blazer11: no, /sys is not a real file system
[16:11] <ikonia> Blazer11: what do you want to change
[16:11] <LOGAN> i pressed the "search" button and entered the name and pressed the enter key
[16:12] <LOGAN> look in folder?
[16:12] <Nestor> Hi all! Can anybody help me? My smbpasswd don't save passwords
[16:12] <ikonia> LOGAN: what is the "Look in Folder" set to bellow the "Name contains" box
[16:12] <mrdinkles> Using Gutsy-- When i log in-- The screen takes a while to load, and loads up this IRC channel and a terminal
[16:12] <mrdinkles> how can i take this off?
[16:12] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  there is a little box underneath the search box that says "Look in:" followed by where you want to search
[16:12] <Blazer11> my video card is on 0001 domain sun system, trying to figure out if there is a way to map it to 0000 so Xorg will see it
[16:13] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  by default you were searching in your /home/user folder, not the drive you mounted
[16:13] <enigma_> i dont know how to do can some one help me plx
[16:13] <ikonia> Blazer11: don't change it there, just change it in your xorg.conf
[16:13] <enigma_> plc
[16:13] <Remanifest> w00t amarok with postgresql
[16:13] <ikonia> enigma_: the error gives you the exact command to use
[16:13] <LOGAN> jeffMASTERflex:  i cant see the little box underneath the seach box
[16:13] <gormux> Remanifest: mpd + mpc + ncmpc
[16:13] <Remanifest> gormux: What?
[16:13] <enigma_> its says that the dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[16:13] <ikonia> LOGAN: are you going "Places --> Search for Files" from the gui ?
[16:14] <ikonia> enigma_: use sudo
[16:14] <enigma_> ah
[16:14] <Blazer11> ? how do you specifiy domain 0001 when Xorg will not scan past 0000 and uses PCI: as an alias for 0000
[16:14] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  are you at Places/Search for files
[16:14] <LOGAN> i clicked the search button from within the file browser
[16:14] <ikonia> Blazer11: is this an SBUS or PCI card ?
[16:14] <ikonia> LOGAN: use the tool I've suggested
[16:14] <Blazer11> PCIe
[16:14] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  go to Places/Search for files
[16:15] <ikonia> Blazer11: I'm not sure how PCI-E is mapped to be honest.
[16:15] <LOGAN> eh?
[16:15] <LOGAN> why is there a search button then. lol
[16:15] <ikonia> LOGAN: on the menu go to "places" then "Search for files"
[16:15]  * LOGAN is confused about how linux works
[16:15] <ikonia> LOGAN: there is, but you don't seem to be able to use it and I can't be bothered explaining it to you as you can't seem to grasp it
[16:15] <ikonia> LOGAN: please use the tool I've suggested
[16:15] <Nestor> People! I'm have a problem with my smbpasswd. Can anybody help me?
[16:15] <ikonia> Nestor: what is the problem ?
[16:16] <LOGAN> hmm nvm then. I'll add it to features not working
[16:16] <ikonia> LOGAN: it DOES work
[16:16] <ikonia> LOGAN: you just can't grasp how it works,
[16:16] <ikonia> LOGAN: use the system --> search for files menu
[16:16] <larson9999> add it to the list of things "i can't grasp"
[16:16] <ikonia> larson9999: better
[16:16] <enigma_> thx it works now ^ ^
[16:16] <Nestor> Ikonia: I'm have home network: Kubuntu 7.10 computer, Mandriva 2008 and Windows XP Home SP2 (laptop) ones. Mandriva and Windows gives access to their shared resources and can connect to other. Kubuntu computer can access to resources of other computers, but don't give access to own folders and files. It ask login/password (even if I want to be connected from itself). I adjust access by means of smbpasswd. A command is executed, but a record in a file /etc/
[16:16] <Nestor> le is opened for a record!). It is command out: Quote Old SMB password: New SMB password: Retype new SMB password: Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Failed to change password for nestor If to do it through sudo, error diagnostics is not present, but also a record in the file of /etc/samba/smbpasswd is not made. What can I do?
[16:17] <Hypergraphe> yo
[16:17] <ikonia> Nestor: it's looking at local host for the password.
[16:17] <ikonia> Nestor: is that what you expect
[16:17] <jeffMASTERflex> I can't believe pointing and clicking in the GUI is hard to grasp. Sigh.
[16:17] <LOGAN> whats to grasp by entering a file name and press return? oh well
[16:17] <jeffMASTERflex> CLI ftw
[16:17] <ikonia> LOGAN: it searchs the pwd
[16:18] <ikonia> LOGAN: as your using a file manager it searches from the pwd
[16:18] <jeffMASTERflex> *present working directory*
[16:19] <LOGAN> and not all the folders or inside the folder you're in? Im to much used to windows search I guess.
[16:20] <Remanifest> jeez this makes a huge difference.
[16:20] <gormux> jeffMASTERflex: print working directory
[16:20] <jeffMASTERflex> LOGAN:  using the search from within the file manager only searches the top level directory, not subfolders. Use the Places/Search for Files item to find items in subfolders
[16:21] <larson9999> LOGAN you can also use grep from the cli
[16:21] <Dr_willis> LOGAN,  check out the books on ubuntu a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training for a good background un ubuntu :)
[16:21] <Bentley_> hi all - is there a way to not show mounted filesystems as icons on the gnome desktop?  I've got so many i have no room left!
[16:22] <gormux> Bentley_: gconf-editor
[16:22] <mrdinkles>  Using Gutsy-- When i log in-- The screen takes a while to load, and loads up this IRC channel and a terminal
[16:22] <Bentley_> ty
[16:22] <jeffMASTERflex> mrdinkles:  go to Preferences/Sessions and unmark both the IRC and terminal from the startup options
[16:23] <LOGAN> yeah I will also look for tools that are a bit more intuitive and fool proof :D
[16:23] <iGama> Beardedninja,  see ubuntu-teak
[16:24] <iGama> Bentley_, http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[16:26] <Goodgame> hi
[16:26] <Goodgame> How would you serv a whisky? cold? cool? whith ice?
[16:27] <ikonia> Goodgame: this is an ubuntu support channel only.
[16:27] <ikonia> Goodgame: please take offtopic chatter like that to a more apropriate place.
[16:27] <Goodgame> ikonia, give me a chan qhere i can ask my question...
[16:28] <ikonia> Goodgame: any none-ubuntu related channel
[16:28] <DarkmindTheGreat>  #pcw
[16:28] <Peeco> #whiskytips
[16:28] <ikonia> Goodgame: search freenode channel lists for a drinks channel
[16:28] <Tilllinux>  okay, I've got a question: I've got an ubuntuinstall on hd0,3 (on an external hd) and a windowsinstall on the internal hd (which is hda1).  I assume Windows is on hd1,0. When I try to use this menu entry, it just reads "starting up..." but it doesn't. I don't get any error, e.g. no "partition does not exist" or "device does not exist"
[16:28] <Goodgame> ok thx
[16:29] <vincent_> hi all
[16:29] <vincent_> fr ?
[16:29] <georgy_28> Tilllinux, : hda1 = hd0,0
[16:29] <Pici> !fr | vincent_
[16:29] <ubotu> vincent_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:30] <hydester> hi.  i can mount an NTFS partition in ubuntu (gutsy) and write to it fine.  now when i boot back into vista (please, it is not my computer and it came with Vista) it no longer sees the drive.  qtparted recommended to do chkdisk /f, but that can't be done since windows doesn't recognize it as ntfs.  any ideas if this could be fixed in linux so windows will see it again?
[16:30] <pteague_work> anybody know of a good web panel similar to whm/cpanel for ubuntu?
[16:30] <ikonia> hydester: define doesn't see the drive ?
[16:30] <ikonia> hydester: are you sure it's formatted as ntfs ?
[16:31] <Exploit> hi there can someone help me deleting the files in my trash folder?
[16:31] <hydester> ikonia, it was NTFS before i mounted and wrote to it in linux
[16:31] <Sylphid|work> hello all
[16:31] <Sylphid|work> im having problems umounting a stale nfs mount the -f option just hangs
[16:31] <ikonia> hydester: boot to linux verify it is ntfs. Then use windows disk administrator to see what it sees the disk as
[16:31] <ikonia> Exploit: right click on trash can and hit "empty"
[16:32] <Exploit> ikonia:  theres the problem. in my trahs are files with root ownership ^
[16:32] <hydester> ikonia, it says NTFS for /dev/sda3, which is the partition in question
[16:32] <ikonia> Exploit: how did you delete root files
[16:32] <hydester> i will reboot and see again
[16:32] <ikonia> hydester: what does it say in windows disk administrator, can it see that disk/partition
[16:32] <Exploit> ikonia:  i actually dont realy know.. its my laptop and i made some.. well :)
[16:32] <tim167> can i install ubuntu on a G4 Mac (PowerPC) ?
[16:33] <ikonia> Exploit: sudo rm in your .trash in your home dir
[16:33] <ikonia> tim167: you can but the ppc distro is not supported officially any more
[16:33] <Dr_willis> i have always had issues with PPC linux on my imac. :(
[16:33] <|bug``|> hi all ..
[16:34] <tim167> ikonia, ok, and does it work or would it be a waste of time to try it ?
[16:34] <Exploit> ikonia:  cant find the .trash folder
[16:34] <ikonia> tim167: should work
[16:34] <ace> fyi totem is teh suck
[16:34] <Doom_unleashed> Whats ubuntu sounds like meat sauce D:
[16:34] <ikonia> Exploit: I've not got a trash folder setup on my desktop so I can't confirm the exact path, but it i will be in your home dir
[16:34] <Pici> !ubuntu | Doom_unleashed
[16:34] <LimCore> why ubuntu fails to be usable?
[16:35] <ikonia> Doom_unleashed: your comments sound like pointless noise, please remember this is a support channel that is very busy
[16:35] <ikonia> LimCore: expand on your question please.
[16:35] <bazhang> tim167: how fast?
[16:35] <Doom_unleashed> ok >>
[16:35] <Exploit> ikonia:  oh i found something. There are .Trash-0 and .Trash-root
[16:35] <LimCore> ikonia: for long time ubuntu and debian fail to support european characters needed by probably over 20% of users
[16:35] <Doom_unleashed> Not pointless though whats ubuntu D=
[16:35] <LimCore> like PL or CZ or DE characters
[16:35] <Doom_unleashed> DDDDD=
[16:35] <Pici> Doom_unleashed: Ubuntu is a Linux distribution.
[16:36] <sandr-> nice spam hihi :)
[16:36] <ikonia> LimCore: character support is much much better now
[16:36] <LimCore> ikonia: how is it better?
[16:36] <tim167> bazhang, mainly to run some audio editing apps...
[16:36] <Doom_unleashed> Whats Linux, sounds like meat sauce D=
[16:36] <larson9999> tim167, i got xubuntu instaled on a g3 imac
[16:36] <LimCore> ubutnu fails to support characters used by like 30% of people in europe!
[16:36] <ikonia> LimCore: better character support, more keyboards and locales supported, UTF support etc.
[16:36] <hydester> ikonia, yes.  it sees it.  just has the drive size but does not say "Healthy" or have a drive letter/label.  so i can't assign it a letter or do anything useful
[16:36] <LimCore> even win98 was better in that
[16:36] <ikonia> LimCore: if you don't like it, don't use it
[16:36] <Tilllinux> georgy_28: no such device or partition
[16:37] <bazhang> tim167: should be fine; 1Ghz?
[16:37] <tim167> larson9999 ah cool, and does it work well? what do you run on it ?
[16:37] <LimCore> ikonia: and me not using it will fix it
[16:37] <ikonia> hydester: can you use windows tools to check disk it ?
[16:37] <Tilllinux> I asked in #grub and someone told me, it could be the initramfs hanging
[16:37] <ikonia> LimCore: no, but it is progressing, I think locale support is excellent
[16:37] <LimCore> ikonia: not locales!
[16:37] <ace> dude i have a 233Mhz computer running ubuntu server
[16:37] <tim167> bazhang, i'm not sure, its not my computers, they are in a school, i think they have some G5's too...
[16:37] <LimCore> ikonia: ubuntu fails to at all provid CHARACTERS that are used in european coturies!
[16:38] <bazhang> LimCore: what is the exact nature of your complaint?
[16:38] <LimCore> *glyphs
[16:38] <quaal> anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine
[16:38] <bazhang> tim167: worth a shot for sure
[16:38] <LimCore> bazhang: polish, german and other characters are not displayed by default in ubuntu
[16:38] <Pici> LimCore: They are if your font support them.
[16:38] <tim167> so where do i get the most recent ISO for ubuntu PowerPC ?
[16:38] <hydester> ikonia, i think check disk can only be done on fat/ntfs (recognized filesystems)
[16:38] <larson9999> tim167, runs pretty well.  i set it up as a youngsters gaming/learning machine.  gcompris, tuxpaint, childsplay, and whatever comes with the basic xubuntu.  but i had to find a webpage that told me how to install it as it wasn't super easy.  but those instructions worked with no problems.
[16:38] <LimCore> Pici: default fonts fails to support them
[16:39] <ikonia> hydester: it's an ntfs drive
[16:39] <LimCore> Pici: like in example here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180
[16:39] <Blazer11> im have the problm with ultrsparc multi pci domain and Xorg my video card is on domain 0001 which Xorg wont see, this is supposedly fixed in Fedora, so my question is would it help at all to get the rpm from fedora and convert to .deb, would this fix the problem
[16:39] <Doom_unleashed> Sarry windows crashed
[16:39] <Doom_unleashed> Whats Linux sounds like meat sauc D=
[16:39] <ikonia> Doom_unleashed: please stop this pointlessness now.
[16:39] <brobostigon> larson9999: which xubuntu version did you put on your imac, i have gutsy on my ibook g3??
[16:39] <Pici> !ubuntu | Doom_unleashed
[16:39] <ubotu> Doom_unleashed: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[16:40] <bazhang> Doom_unleashed: do you have an actual question? if not then please stop
[16:40] <larson9999> brobostigon, gutsy
[16:40] <hydester> ikonia, i know.  but windows doesn't know it is.  that was what i was hoping to figure out.  if there is a way to flip a bit or do something to make it happy enough to do its own repair
[16:40] <Doom_unleashed> It is actual D=
[16:40] <Doom_unleashed> whats linux tho
[16:40] <Doom_unleashed> ><
[16:40] <Pici> !linux > Doom_unleashed (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:40] <tim167> larson9999, i would be installing it on 5 or 6 iMacs....
[16:40] <ikonia> hydester: within windows, no idea, some chaps in ##windows may know a quick solution
[16:40] <bazhang> Doom_unleashed: stop it
[16:40] <brobostigon> larson9999: so you installed xfce afterwaerds.
[16:41] <Doom_unleashed> Whats kernal?
[16:41] <larson9999> brobostigon, no, i installed xubuntu
[16:41] <kbrooks> bazhang, why are you asking him to stop
[16:41] <ewook> Doom_unleashed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[16:41] <LimCore> Doom_unleashed: it's like windows, except it fails to support national characters used in half Europe for example;  but it's free and not tied to companies... read about linux, ubuntu
[16:41] <ikonia> Doom_unleashed: http://www.tldp.org will teach you the basics about linux systems and assocated topics
[16:41] <hydester> ikonia, i will try.  you know, i figure the ##windows guys would be like "you shouldn't have tried to use linux."  figured somebody here may know and have more empathy for my situation
[16:41] <larson9999> tim167, i'd google installing ubunutu on imac
[16:41] <Pici> LimCore: please dont.
[16:41] <ewook> LimCore: it's a matter of setting the correct locale...
[16:41] <hydester> ikonia, thanks for giving it a shot :)
[16:42] <ikonia> hydester: there are some good guys in ##windows
[16:42] <ikonia> hydester: sorry but windows isn't my think
[16:42] <ikonia> thing
[16:42] <Doom_unleashed> whats gimp?
[16:42] <LimCore> ewook: did you ever read the bug report?!  locale is correct, but the font is broken (missing glyphs)!  and such uselles broken font remains to be default font! what the... the mind boggles
[16:42] <ikonia> Doom_unleashed: this is getting tedious now. Please stop
[16:42] <tribaldata> Doom_unleashed: graphical editorcreator like photshop
[16:42] <ace> yeah other then the 30min i spent installing it ... it just sits on my drive wasting space
[16:42] <bazhang> kbrooks: just look at what he is saying and you will know
[16:42] <ewook> LimCore: sorry no I didn't. but, since I live in one of those countries -  and have no issues I don't really get it.
[16:43] <Doom_unleashed> whats giiimp??
[16:43] <Blazer11> im have the problm with ultrsparc multi pci domain and Xorg my video card is on domain 0001 which Xorg wont see, this is supposedly fixed in Fedora, so my question is would it help at all to get the rpm from fedora and convert to .deb, would this fix the problem
[16:43] <KIndyTry> bonjour
[16:43] <brobostigon> gutsy can be difficult on a mac,
[16:43] <Doom_unleashed> WHATS INKSCAPE
[16:43] <kbrooks> Doom_unleashed, we answered.
[16:43] <ace> Gnu Image ManipULATION pROGRAM
[16:43] <LimCore> ewook: orly?  then view my PDF attached on bottom on bug report and perhaps comment
[16:43] <KIndyTry> erf
[16:43] <Doom_unleashed> whats whats...
[16:43] <Doom_unleashed> whats windows
[16:43] <ikonia> Doom_unleashed: please leave.
[16:43] <MenZa> sigh
[16:43]  * LimCore sense a ban comming
[16:43] <ace> ban time
[16:43] <larson9999> someone can't kick Doom?
[16:43] <ewook> LimCore: stupid question - but where is your report?
[16:43] <bazhang> kbrooks: ? clear now?
[16:43] <kbrooks> bazhang, nod
[16:44] <xalanthyr> Hey, i got a question. In my concole  i always had text like this: "lukasz@lukasz:~$ ", now after i reinstalled ubuntu i got "lukasz@(none):~$ ". What's wrong?
[16:44] <LimCore> ewook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-bitstream-vera/+bug/11180   look on PDF on bottom,   try to write ó ż ź  using bitstream sans
[16:44] <danroj> ikonia,
[16:44] <LimCore> xalanthyr: perhaps /etc/hostname ?
[16:45] <xalanthyr> LimCore: what do you mean by /etc/hostname ?  i'm still pretty dumb at linux...
[16:45] <pastor> Could someone help me get VCL working on Ububtu, or the shortest rout to watching a DVD?
[16:46] <jay1> i got a ?,why is it when i use adept updater,knemo spawns another instance,is that a but in gutsy?
[16:46] <jay1> bug
[16:46] <LimCore> xalanthyr: btw, you can get polish language help on ##poland
[16:46] <xalanthyr> pastor: write "sudo apt-get install vlc" in console
[16:46] <bazhang> pastor: vlc?
[16:46] <bonkers-matt> pastor, did you try "sudo apt-get install vlc"?
[16:46] <LimCore> xalanthyr: sudo echo "lukasz" > /etc/hostname
[16:46] <Blazer11> cmmon guys i know there are peeps in here way smarter than me when it comes to linux, can someone please help me
[16:46] <brobostigon> also install libdvdcss
[16:46] <ewook> LimCore: lol. Sorry, but ya - a font is missbehaving :) good notice.
[16:46] <Dr_willis> I dont thinl vlc can play encrypted dvd's by default under ubuntu.
[16:47] <tho1> pastor for dvds you will also need to install libdvdcss (or I think it is libdvdcss2 now)
[16:47] <LimCore> ewook: hmm? what did you ment?
[16:47] <tho1> !libdvdcss
[16:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:47] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[16:47] <pastor> xalanthyr, I have don that, but when  run VLC, it simply gives me a blip, and then goes blank. Thoughts?
[16:47] <tho1> man....I'm good
[16:47] <ewook> LimCore: I thought there was a bigger issue than just a bad fontpack.
[16:48] <ace> configure video outup
[16:48] <kbrooks> !info chess
[16:48] <ubotu> Package chess does not exist in gutsy
[16:48] <kbrooks> !find chess
[16:48] <ubotu> Found: 3dchess, brutalchess, dreamchess, dreamchess-data, emacs-chess (and 11 others)
[16:48] <bazhang> pastor: go to www.medibuntu.org follow the instructions on how to install libdvdcss2 done ready to play!
[16:48] <xalanthyr> pastor: <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[16:48] <LimCore> ewook: the default font pack is broken
[16:48] <LimCore> and the other fonts are awfull
[16:49] <LimCore> numbius is very narrow and strange
[16:49] <LimCore> dejavu sans is very very light (like 0.5 pixel -> gray)
[16:49] <ewook> LimCore: oh, it's the default one? then I see the issue.
[16:49] <bazhang> LimCore: if there is a support issue you have then ask away :}
[16:49] <Pici> LimCore: Coming here and complaining about it isnt very constructive.
[16:49] <Blazer11> help me please! someone anyone
[16:49] <LimCore> bitstream sans missies ó and other glyphs
[16:49] <LimCore> and dejavu/bistream serrif.. well, are serrif
[16:50] <LimCore> Pici: I even made a nice test case! and reproted bugs
[16:50] <larson9999> LimCore, guess you'll have to use windows
[16:50] <ewook> LimCore: default were I might ask tho
[16:50] <kbrooks> um
[16:50] <xalanthyr> LimCore: when i wrote, what you said :"sudo echo "lukasz" > /etc/hostname" i get "bash: /etc/hostname: Permission denied". What's wrong?
[16:50] <LimCore> ewook: kde desktop, everywhere, openoffice
[16:50] <kbrooks> larson9999, not very constructive either
[16:50] <ewook> LimCore: ah, gui-wise ^^
[16:50] <LimCore> xalanthyr: strange... did you entered your password as asked?
[16:50] <Pici> LimCore: That bug report says that the fix  was released...
[16:50] <xalanthyr> LimCore: didn't asked me for password
[16:51] <LimCore> Pici: what does it mean exacly?
[16:51] <kbrooks> um, how do i access the extra packages from a find <package> command
[16:51] <larson9999> kbrooks, sure it was.  the point was showing how it's not constructive to be unconstructive
[16:51] <LimCore> xalanthyr:  become root with   sudo su   and then do echo .......  or just eidt /etc/hostname
[16:51] <kbrooks> ubotu says (x more packages)
[16:52] <Pici> LimCore: It means that it was fixed in 2005.
[16:52] <LimCore> Pici: so why it is still broken in recent 7.10 ?
[16:52] <Pici> LimCore: Perhaps either thats not the right bug report or it wasn't really fixed.
[16:53] <LimCore> yes, perhaps they failed to fix it
[16:53]  * LimCore is mazed by size of this failure
[16:53] <xalanthyr> LimCore: now i got root@(none):/home/lukasz#
[16:53] <LimCore> ~10% of users can't use their nationall characters and noone fixes it? wow, OS model works
[16:54] <LimCore> xalanthyr: did you edited the /etc/hostname?
[16:54] <Pici> LimCore: Perhaps you are the first person to report it. Let me look launchpad for a few.
[16:54] <LimCore> xalanthyr: did you edited the /etc/hostname ?
[16:54] <LimCore> Pici: there are several simmilar reports
[16:54] <xalanthyr> LimCore: don't think so
[16:54] <Blazer11> i have a specific prob with ubuntu, Xorg and sunblade, can someone direct me to the right channel for this kind of question
[16:54] <LimCore> xalanthyr: echo "lukasz" >  /etc/hostname     and then start a new shell
[16:54] <LimCore> xalanthyr: (open a new term, or re-login etc)
[16:56] <xalanthyr> LimCore: damn, i do what you say, but i still got "lukasz@(none):~$" or "root@(none):~$"
[16:56] <Blazer11> ikonia do you know where to ask
[16:57] <Pici> Blazer11: Perhaps #ubuntu-server ?
[16:57] <Blazer11> Pici thanx
[16:58] <tim167> where do i find an installer CD for ubuntu PowerPC ? thanks !
[16:58] <Pici> !ppc | tim167
[16:58] <ubotu> tim167: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[16:58] <bazhang> !ppc
[16:58] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how do i prevent openssh server from timeouts?
[16:59] <tim167> Pici thanks
[17:00] <juliflip> is there an easy way to connect to an external monitor?
[17:00] <Dr_willis> UBUNTUISLOVED,  check the sshd config files?
[17:00] <lukewarm> How do i stop gpm?
[17:00] <UBUNTUISLOVED> thanks
[17:01] <Pici> lukewarm: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[17:01] <crush_groove>  !gpm
[17:01] <crush_groove> !gpm
[17:01] <crush_groove> looks up\
[17:01] <UBUNTUISLOVED> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm you mean?
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <UBUNTUISLOVED> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:02] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: they do the same thing.
[17:02] <UBUNTUISLOVED> need that added to your bot
[17:02] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ohh sorry didnt see that pici
[17:03] <UBUNTUISLOVED> just seen those !'s going along
[17:03] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: Its okay
[17:03] <LimCore> xalanthyr: try joining ##poland for help there perhaps its more comforatble?  /j ##poland
[17:03] <crush_groove> sorry UBUNTUISLOVED
[17:03] <x-X-x> how do i update alsa?
[17:04] <rangef1nder> what do I need for mp3 playback?
[17:04] <^root^> i am having some problem in streaming google videos, i have installed codecs, and firefox plugins, still it doens't display anything..
[17:04] <crush_groove>  pici what type of drectorys/files can be invoked.. is there a rule to that command . do they need to be active inits..etc? h
[17:04] <linxeh> !mp3
[17:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:04] <lukewarm> Pici, no. I am running X but dont have a mouse. How do I get rid of the cursor? I think it is gpm, not gdm
[17:04] <Dr_willis> juliflip,   You are referng to an external monitor on a laptop? or 2 monitors on a desktop machine?
[17:05] <juliflip> external monitor connected to a laptop
[17:05] <juliflip> vga connection
[17:05] <alanbshepard70> I've been having problems when I try to burn data DVDs with ubuntus 7.10 built in burning software along with others I later downloaded from the repos. Literally every other disc becomes a coaster with the message "unhandled exception". Is there something I'm doing wrong  is this a bug? I cycle the tray after a burn and insert a blank disk and do everything I know with little luck. Any ideas?
[17:05] <crush_groove> !invoke
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about invoke - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <linxeh> alanbshepard70: check /var/log/messages
[17:06] <linxeh> ^root^: install the flash plugin
[17:06] <crush_groove> nodz
[17:06] <Pici> crush_groove: invoke-rc.d <tab>
[17:07] <Pici> lukewarm: gpm (if thats what its called, I cant remember) is only for the ttys , not for X
[17:07] <crush_groove> Pici thank you .,. that rox
[17:07] <^root^> linxeh, already done that...
[17:07] <burn_> hi guys, youtube videos arent playing properly on my newly installed Ubuntu. any help?
[17:07] <^root^> walla! its working
[17:07] <^root^> burn_ they are on mine ...
[17:07]  * LimCore takes a hit from the bong :-&
[17:08] <burn_> ^root^: do i need to update my flash drivers or soemthing
[17:08] <alanbshepard70> ok new problem, the linux version of my start menu just disappeared. Is there a shortcut key I just managed to press?
[17:08] <Pici> LimCore: Thats not appropriate here.
[17:08] <lukewarm> Pici, ok tnx anyway
[17:08] <^root^> burn_, install totem, and firefox if not already, install w32codec, install totem plugin for firefox, and install flash player
[17:08] <soundray> Guys, can you recommend a way to thoroughly test a hard disk?
[17:08] <Pici> !flashissues | burn_
[17:08] <ubotu> burn_: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:08] <LimCore> Pici: hmm ok...   so I drink beer;  better?
[17:08] <shiroc> we are paramore
[17:08] <^root^> alanbshepard70, create a new panel, right click and add to panel the menu bar
[17:09] <LimCore> alanbshepard70: alt+f1
[17:09] <PEYOZ> hi
[17:09] <PEYOZ> hello
[17:09] <alanbshepard70> ^root^ thanks I had just found it.
[17:09] <LimCore> hi PEYOZ
[17:09] <Mall> «shiroc» ha-ha)
[17:10] <^root^> alanbshepard70, hmmm nice...
[17:10] <ramrebol_> hola a todos
[17:10]  * crush_groove trys that 'tab' thing with all kinds of lines
[17:10] <Pici> !es | ramrebol_
[17:10] <ubotu> ramrebol_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:11] <spriggan> Don't suppose anyone here can help me with my wireless adapter ? or know anywhere that can ?
[17:11] <alanbshepard70> linxcheck I just checked /var/log/messages and it has no helpful info all it says is....  Dec 27 00:37:31] -- MARK --
[17:12] <ramrebol_> ubotu: mm..  in spanish nobody has been help me
[17:12] <brobostigon> !ask | spriggan
[17:12] <ubotu> spriggan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:12] <bazhang> spriggan: what card?
[17:12] <Pici> ramrebol_: This channel is only english though,.
[17:13] <spriggan> its a belkin usb adaptor, f5d7050 , rt73 chipset i think or n
[17:14] <MasterHacker> hey i need some help
[17:14] <MasterHacker> i need to setup a vpn server
[17:14] <g00se> What system does Gutsy use to (dis)allow hosts' access? I don't think it can be using hosts.allow
[17:14] <MasterHacker> can help me anyone ?
[17:15] <Turistu> can help me anyone ? to setup a vpn server ?
[17:15] <bazhang> spriggan: are you using gutsy? 7.10
[17:15] <spriggan> 7.06
[17:15] <bazhang> 7.06?
[17:15] <spriggan> 1sec
[17:15] <iGama> 7.04
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Feisty
[17:15] <ramrebol_> Pici: thaks
[17:16] <Mall> ktonit' po russki govorit? ))))
[17:16] <spriggan> yeah thats the one ..
[17:16] <bazhang> !ru Mall
[17:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru mall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:16] <bazhang> ugh
[17:16] <g00se> !ru | Mall
[17:16] <ubotu> Mall: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:16] <Mall> ok)
[17:16] <bazhang> spriggan are you on that machine now?
[17:16] <spriggan> Yup
[17:16] <linxeh> g00se: hosts.deny ?
[17:17] <linxeh> Turistu: look at openvpn?
[17:17] <bazhang> spriggan: usb dongle or built in wireless
[17:17] <spriggan> usb dongle
[17:17] <linxeh> Turistu: or freeswan
[17:17] <Turistu> i look at openvpn can i don`t know how to configure all
[17:17] <g00se> linxeh: Well allow is empty and deny is set to ALL:Paranoid yet i can still ssh to it...
[17:18] <bazhang> spriggan: is the dongle inserted into the computer now?
[17:18] <spriggan> yup
[17:18] <linxeh> g00se: you know what Paranoid means ?
[17:18] <K4k-laptop> If I compile my own kernel, that means I can't use the restricted drivers packages anymore correct?
[17:19] <linxeh> g00se: it matches any host whos forward lookup doesnt match its reverse lookup
[17:19] <linxeh> g00se: ALL:ALL would block everyone
[17:19] <bazhang> spriggan: open up a terminal and tell me what lsusb says about that card (dont paste here, just tell me)
[17:19] <david_J> K4k-laptop: yeah... modules wont match the kernel you are using
[17:19] <Myszpies> kto polak
[17:19] <g00se> linxeh: Ah thanks. I guessed otherwise ;-)
[17:19] <K4k-laptop> david_J, is there a way to make them match?
[17:19] <bazhang> !pl
[17:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:19] <linxeh> g00se:  man hosts.deny  - has a list of all the values you can use
[17:20] <Myszpies> hi
[17:20] <david_J> K4k-laptop: you can blacklist the modules and use fresh ones compiled for the kernel you are using
[17:20] <Myszpies> all
[17:20] <david_J> K4k-laptop: use the same kernel source tree ubuntu used
[17:20] <vasilisa> i just did something stupid. My cd roms arent mountiing correctly because i deleted the mount points under /media that looked like files and tries to replace them with folders to mount to, so it would look cleaner.... now its saying stuff like it cant read the dvd because i might not have permission, and K3b cant even mount it .
[17:20] <vasilisa> any help would be appreciated.
[17:20] <Myszpies> i have problems
[17:20] <g00se> linxeh: I'm actually trying to determine why CUPS won't allow me to connect, despite apparently OK settings in cupsd.conf
[17:20] <david_J> K4k-laptop: which may work if you need a specific module the ubuntu kernel lacked
[17:21] <bazhang> spriggan: you still want help?
[17:21] <Mall> !ru
[17:21] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:21] <Myszpies> !pl
[17:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:21] <K4k-laptop> david_J, well, I would just like for suspend to work, but I have the ATI proprietary driver problem with suspend, is it work re-compiling to use SLUB or is there another fix?
[17:21] <spriggan> Yeah sorry, which bit did you want of what it displayed ? ID, Device ? Bus ?
[17:22] <david_J> K4k-laptop: I can't tell you.. I gave up on ATI a long time ago
[17:22] <bazhang> rt2500, rt61 soemthing like that spriggan
[17:22] <K4k-laptop> david_J, I don't blame you, I would too given an option, thanks anyway
[17:22] <g00se> linxeh: Does Gutsy log failed connection attempts?
[17:22] <vasilisa>  i just did something stupid. My cd roms arent mountiing correctly because i deleted the mount points under /media that looked like files and tries to replace them with folders to mount to, so it would look cleaner.... now its saying stuff like it cant read the dvd because i might not have permission, and K3b cant even mount it .
[17:22] <bazhang> Myszpies: just clikc on the link
[17:22] <david_J> K4k-laptop: all you can do is try
[17:22] <spriggan> 1 sec
[17:23] <TIRC_8134> ciao
[17:23] <K4k-laptop> david_J, yea, I'm thinking I'm going too, I have tried before but then I couldn't get my wireless drivers working again because I wasn't able to figure out how to build the proper modules for it
[17:23] <david_J> K4k-laptop: can what you are trying to compile be compiled as a module?
[17:23] <brobostigon> vasilisa: change the permissions on the mount points so that your user has access.??maybe?
[17:23] <Myszpies> bzhang:link??
[17:23] <vasilisa> brobostigon: i thought of that, it didnt work
[17:24] <K4k-laptop> david_J, I'm not sure actually, I'm trying to change it from using SLAB to SLUB
[17:24] <david_J> K4k-laptop: For a module all you need is the kernel-headers package
[17:24] <bazhang> #ubuntu-pl Myszpies
[17:24] <x-X-x> how do i update alsa on my comp
[17:24] <david_J> K4k-laptop: I haven't read up on what you are trying to do
[17:24] <brobostigon> vasilisa: no idea then.
[17:24] <david_J> K4k-laptop: but are you given a patch?
[17:24] <vasilisa> "Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)"
[17:24] <david_J> K4k-laptop: for the kernel sources?
[17:25] <vasilisa> :(
[17:25] <K4k-laptop> david_J, there is a problem with the current ATI proprietary drivers that makes suspend not work properly because the 7.10 kernel uses slab now instead of slub which was used in 7.04
[17:25] <K4k-laptop> but 7.04 has it's own set of problems with ATI
[17:25] <TIRC_8134> #11	646M	  National-Treasure.2.Il.Mistero.Delle.Pagine.Perdute.2007.iTALiAN.TELESYNC.XviD.CD1-SiLENT.tar
[17:26] <david_J> K4k-laptop: what wireless card you have?
[17:26] <K4k-laptop> david_J, IPW3945
[17:26] <bazhang> TIRC_8134: not here please
[17:26] <ace> K4k-laptop, what are you doin here
[17:26] <vasilisa> What does this mean: Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[17:26] <ace> <-- JimmyRidge
[17:26] <vasilisa> Its a xine message
[17:26] <Myszpies> ej moge pobrac aktualizacje ja mam linuxa botowanego z plyty
[17:26] <Myszpies> ej
[17:26] <Myszpies> jest ktos
[17:26] <david_J> K4k-laptop: I donno if that is in the kernel source tree..
[17:26] <K4k-laptop> ace: trying to fix the suspend bug with ATI proprietary drivers
[17:26] <MyszpiesPL> ej
[17:27] <MyszpiesPL> jes
[17:27] <MyszpiesPL> s
[17:27] <MyszpiesPL> s
[17:27] <Pici> MyszpiesPL: syop
[17:27] <Nicke> !pl > MyszpiesPL
[17:27] <MyszpiesPL> s
[17:27] <MyszpiesPL> s
[17:27] <SpookyET> Eye of Gnome is not opening my image files. It says, "not an image." Nautilus generates thumbnails and firefox opens them. Maybe, they have corrupt exif date. Is there a tool that can fix them?
[17:27] <K4k-laptop> david_J, when I did it for debian I had to get the source and compile it manually
[17:27] <david_J> K4k-laptop: may need to build a specific module for it after you compile the kernel you want
[17:27] <ace> hibernate sorta works for me but sound doesnt come back on
[17:27] <david_J> K4k-laptop: Makes sense
[17:27] <reportingsjr> How do I switch drives in terminal?
[17:27] <vasilisa> Im so good at screwing things up enough that no one has an answer
[17:28] <ace> oh wait duh nowonder suspend doesnt work for me i dont have a swap yet
[17:28] <david_J> K4k-laptop: You need to blacklist any restricted modules you used previously, and try the modules for the kernel you compiled
[17:28] <vasilisa> I STILL havent ever been told why the heck k3b wont list tracks of DVDs to rip since i upgraded to Edgy Eft.
[17:28] <vasilisa> i sure do miss that
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> vasilisa: How about deleting the mount points you created and trying to manually remount them
[17:28] <brobostigon> !mountpoints | reportingsjr
[17:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoints - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:28] <david_J> K4k-laptop: I had a simular problem with my wireless card...  I didnt need to recompile a whole kernel
[17:28] <vasilisa> Jack_Sparrow: They're deleted. They auto mount nto my desktop o.O
[17:29] <K4k-laptop> david_J, the problem isn't the wireless card
[17:29] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: So much for that..
[17:29] <david_J> K4k-laptop: but the madwifi driver needed a patch for a particular chipset
[17:29] <vasilisa> Jack_Sparrow: I did that too, no good
[17:29] <david_J> K4k-laptop: I know that
[17:29] <joanki> i accidentally installed xine and now want to remove it
[17:29] <joanki> how do i do it?
[17:29] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: Any clue how? I've got all my songs on an external hd, and want to use grep on it.
[17:29] <david_J> K4k-laptop: but with kernels all kernel modules must match the kernel it came from
[17:29] <nixnoob> sudo apt-get remove xine
[17:29] <vasilisa> joanki: aptitude remove the package
[17:29] <K4k-laptop> david_J, I just haven't been able to get the card to work again after compiling the custom kernel...but I haven't tried it since I figured out how to make the modules in debian
[17:29] <david_J> K4k-laptop: Whether you are compiling a module
[17:30] <brobostigon> reportingsjr: each drive is represented in the file system by a mountpoint, type df in the terminal, and iit should tell you each drives mountpoint.
[17:30] <david_J> K4k-laptop: you have your kernel headers right?
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> vasilisa: No OS is so perfect that a creative user cant mess it up...  That isnt a bad thing... just a fact of life
[17:30] <K4k-laptop> david_J, yea
[17:30] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: Ok, thanks
[17:30] <joanki> ow do i do that vasilisa sorry, i tried
[17:30] <joanki> i did sudo rm xine
[17:30] <joanki> and it didn't work
[17:30] <david_J> K4k-laptop: You may have to check something
[17:30] <vasilisa> joanki: sudo aptitude remove xine
[17:30] <joanki> thanks
[17:30] <vasilisa> Jack_Sparrow: Then im awful creative :D
[17:30] <bazhang> spriggan: I have to go for a moment; perhaps someone will help you with this
[17:30] <joanki> i never saw the word aptitude before.... thanks
[17:31] <brobostigon> reportingsjr: df will only show mounted drives.
[17:31] <vasilisa> Jack_Sparrow: At no tim do i ever have a stable OS of any sort.
[17:31] <WGGMk> trying to install VMWare Server Console.. but I DO NOT want to run it as root/sudo everytime.. I just want to be able to run it as my regular user (which is the sudo user but im sure you follow me)
[17:31] <david_J> K4k-laptop: there are 2 simlinks in /lib/modules/`uname -r` that point to the kernel source tree they are called build and source
[17:32] <vasilisa> This is maddening.
[17:32] <vasilisa> i cant even play my dvds
[17:32] <david_J> K4k-laptop: Also read the documentation on the module you are trying to build... It may look for the headers at /usr/src/linux where linux is a symbolic link to the src tree
[17:32] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: What do you mean?
[17:32] <vasilisa> much less rip them
[17:32] <david_J> vasilisa: you need libdvdcss
[17:32] <vasilisa> david_J: Thats not the problem. i have that
[17:32] <brobostigon> !mount | reportingsjr
[17:32] <ubotu> reportingsjr: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[17:33] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: ! isn't the answer for everything..
[17:33] <joanki> sorry vasilisa but my when i hit a video link on firefox, it still tries to oipen xine
[17:33] <joanki> how do i make it stop doing nthat?
[17:33] <joanki> i want to install mkplayer
[17:33] <joanki> mplayer
[17:33] <vasilisa> joanki: That means that firefox has a plugin for xine
[17:33] <joanki> how do i remove it
[17:33] <joanki> that was the one that i installed
[17:33] <vasilisa> joanki: same way, but i dunno the package name
[17:33] <brobostigon> reportingsjr: i cant explain it, look it up in wikipedia, it difficult to explain.
[17:34] <reportingsjr> brobostigon: Gotcha
[17:34] <joanki> is there a way i can pull up a list of all the pacikages installed on my computer?
[17:34] <joanki> through terminal?
[17:34] <bazhang> dpkg -l
[17:34] <Pici> joanki: dpkg -l
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > joanki
[17:34] <larson9999> joanki, you can save that and use it for reinstalls if that's the list you 'like'
[17:34] <vasilisa>  joanki - xine-plugin
[17:34] <joanki> thankssssss
[17:34] <vasilisa> joanki: sudo aptitude remove xine-plugin =)
[17:35] <joanki> THANKS!!!!
[17:35] <joanki> got it larson9999 , good idea
[17:35]  * vasilisa is able to help anyone but his own, crazy, OS-destroying self.
[17:35] <larson9999> joanki, i mean to have it automatically use that list so you don't have to install them all manually.
[17:35] <joanki> larson9999, i've got to tell you though, there's dozens and dozens and dozens of programs there that i know i did not install
[17:36] <vasilisa> Alright, can anyone post their fstab so i can see the DEFAULT mount points of cdrom drives?
[17:36] <Pici> joanki: Most of them probably just came with the system.
[17:36] <Pici> vasilisa: fstab varies from system to system
[17:36] <joanki> right
[17:36] <slugone> liux doesnt natively support rar archives ??? :S
[17:36] <joanki> i just had a text document
[17:36] <fkbnam> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[17:36] <brobostigon> vasilisa: the normal mountpoint for cdrom is /cdrom
[17:36] <larson9999> joanki, probably thousands.  but you installed them.  just didn't specify them
[17:36] <joanki> where i wrote them all down as i  chose them
[17:36] <Pici> vasilisa: Probably mounted in /media/cdrom/ though
[17:36] <vasilisa> Pici: I understand that, but i need something u.u
[17:36] <fkbnam> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[17:36] <joanki> oh i see
[17:36] <fkbnam> http://learntoc.blogspot.com/
[17:36] <slugone> how can i un rar it says archive type unsupported
[17:37] <sparr> how can i connect to a "normal" cisco vpn?  that is, one that windows xp connects to with no special configuration.
[17:37] <bazhang> fkbnam: not here
[17:37] <k2> join Jimmy Page
[17:37] <vasilisa> I just need a fstab to look at
[17:37] <Cursed_6_ds> Hi! my ubuntu hangs when i try to view a streaming video. Firefox consumes 100% resources. I have each and everything installed and fully updated system.
[17:37] <vasilisa> i dont quite grok them
[17:37] <larson9999> Cursed_6_ds, flash?
[17:37] <reportingsjr> Is there an mp3 manager for ubuntu? Like itunes, I just want a place to see all of my mp3s mashed together. Would be nice.
[17:37] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: AMAROK
[17:37] <joanki> gotta go thankx all
[17:37] <Cursed_6_ds> larson9999, thats installed as well
[17:37] <iGama> reportingsjr, listen, atunes,
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> vasilisa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49846/              for what it is worth
[17:38] <Pici> !rar | slugone
[17:38] <ubotu> slugone: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[17:38] <iGama> exile, rhytmbox ( the one install by default )
[17:38] <vasilisa> Thank you Jack!!!
[17:38] <larson9999> Cursed_6_ds, no, i mean are you talking about flash videos lucking up on you
[17:38] <reportingsjr> vasilisa: Amarok? I'll try it out :)
[17:38] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: I love Amarok.
[17:38] <reportingsjr> What the.. Would here be a reason I can't view any folders with mp3's in them now?
[17:39] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: It can even sort your files and auto rename them based on meta info, placing them into directories :D
[17:39] <reportingsjr> "the folder contents could not be displayed"
[17:39] <vasilisa> thats odd
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> larson9999: Please choose more family friendly adj...
[17:39] <reportingsjr> vasilisa: I just want them all together, way too many!
[17:39] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: its good for anything.
[17:39] <reportingsjr> vasilisa: Yeah, I wonder what's going on..
[17:39] <Cursed_6_ds> larson9999, i am talking about youtube, which is a flash video as i guess
[17:40] <MikeH> Anyone know what Windows/Super + R does?
[17:40] <MikeH> I just pressed it, thinking of the run box
[17:40] <socketbind> hi, upon startup I get an error dialog "Failed to initialize HAL" totally randomly
[17:40] <MikeH> and everythings gone "fuzzy"
[17:40] <socketbind> and i have no idea on how to fix it : |
[17:40] <reportingsjr> vasilisa: I'm thinking about going out today and buying a new HD, SATA is the newest type right, the fastest?
[17:40] <socketbind> when this happens automount dies too
[17:40] <larson9999> Cursed_6_ds, yeah, try as i might flash still locks up all my computers at some point.  although, it's usually just certain videos or seems to be random.  not as bad as it used to be.
[17:40] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: I have SATA and its awesome, so yes
[17:41] <vasilisa> reportingsjr: Although IDEs  cost more now since they're going away
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> vasilisa: If it helps I have sata too... plextore
[17:41] <reportingsjr> vasilisa: Odd, I have 3 ides, 2 20 gigs and 1 40 :)
[17:41] <nixnoob> reportingsjr, you probably want the 3.0Gbps SATA
[17:41] <MikeH> nwm
[17:41] <nixnoob> SATA II
[17:41] <MikeH> *nvm
[17:41] <Cursed_6_ds> larson9999, same happens to konqueror. and even to other streaming sites, which arent flash.
[17:41] <reportingsjr> nixnoob: What would be the price of a 100gb one?
[17:41] <reportingsjr> at staples :D
[17:41] <Cursed_6_ds> like one for real media...
[17:42] <WGGMk> When installing VMWare Server Console, it will NOT let me run the install script unless im a super user.. After installing it (with sudo) it will not let me run vmware-server-console unless im I user sudo.. How can I install this so that it shows up in my Applications and doesnt require sudo from terminal??
[17:42] <larson9999> Cursed_6_ds, all i can say is let me know if you get it fixed :)
[17:42] <socketbind> any idea on the "Failed to initialize HAL" error dialog? i have no idea from where it is originating
[17:42] <nixnoob> reportingsjr, you are not understanding the 3.0Gbps is the transfer speed.
[17:42] <ironfoot> ok I've read what I needed to read out agile and began to install but I get this Error can you help me with this:->http://rafb.net/p/sXlkTz84.html
[17:43] <Cursed_6_ds> larson9999, do you have the same problem?
[17:43] <reportingsjr> nixnoob: No, I understand, and WOW! 3.0Gbps!? Talk about fast!
[17:43] <Remanifest> Within Synaptic, if a program has the Ubuntu logo next to it, what does that mean?
[17:43] <larson9999> Cursed_6_ds, maybe.  flash locks my system up tight about 5 or so times a day.
[17:43] <equinux> Alguien podría contestarme en castellano a poder ser qué está ocurriendo con nautilus cuando provoca que el procesador se ponga al 60% sin conseguir salir de mi carpeta personal. Solo ocurre cuando intento salir de ella con las teclas de navegación
[17:43] <sigma> does anyone here know how to share the internet connection if im using a usb modem? i have the internet working on my pc, just can't share it. i want to share it to another linux pc
[17:44] <marcioapf> !es > equinux
[17:44] <marcioapf> equinux, read the private message from ubotu =)
[17:44] <k2> simk
[17:44] <reportingsjr> Uh oh
[17:44] <reportingsjr> I fucked something up
[17:44] <k2> neee
[17:45] <k2> iam simk
[17:45] <sigma> !language
[17:45] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:45] <k2> spanish
[17:45] <nixnoob> anyone running gusty on a Asus c90s?
[17:46] <Remanifest> Hm, anyone know what that means...?
[17:46] <equinux> gracias marcioapt
[17:46] <WGGMk> When installing VMWare Server Console, it will NOT let me run the install script unless im a super user.. After installing it (with sudo) it will not let me run vmware-server-console unless im I user sudo.. How can I install this so that it shows up in my Applications and doesnt require sudo from terminal??
[17:46] <socketbind> WGGMk: right click on the applications menu, edit
[17:47] <socketbind> and a new item and prepend gksu on the command
[17:47] <socketbind> like gksu vmware-server-console
[17:47] <wols_> WGGMk: set it suid root for example
[17:47] <reportingsjr> I can't even run file browser thingy. It says it's starting up, then shuts down.
[17:47] <Cursed_6_ds> WGGMk, use gksu
[17:47] <unravel> have you added yourself to the vmware group, if there is one?
[17:48] <ketrox> j #ubuntu.tn
[17:48] <WGGMk> wols_: socketbind: Cursed_6_ds: so other then changing the file permissions on the installed binaries, there's no way to run it as a normal user?
[17:48] <socketbind> WGGMk: try adding yourself to the vmware group if there is such a thing
[17:48] <unravel> WGGMk: go to System > Admin > Users and groups. is there a VMware related group? if so, add yourself.
[17:49] <LOGAN> does ubuntu live cd have FTP app?
[17:49] <WGGMk> socketbind: unravel: thanks guys/gals
[17:49] <brobostigon> logan: nautilus
[17:49] <WGGMk> this community is the best... *tips hat*
[17:49] <LOGAN> is nautulus preinstalled on life cd?
[17:50] <socketbind> of course it is
[17:50] <unravel> LOGAN: if youre using Ubuntu, yes.
[17:50] <socketbind> it is an integral part of gnome
[17:50] <unravel> nautilus is GNOME's file manager
[17:50] <brobostigon> logan: nautilus is gnome file manager,
[17:50] <Tilllinux> is there an app to convert with a wacom tablet written words into text?
[17:50] <LOGAN> but I need an FTP application
[17:50] <sparr> whatis the vpn client gui for gnome?
[17:50] <Tilllinux> something like a hand-writing recognizing text
[17:50] <Tilllinux> äh
[17:50] <Tilllinux> app ;)
[17:50] <brobostigon> logan: nautilus does do ftp
[17:50] <cuteharez> LOGAN
[17:51] <cuteharez> use fireftp
[17:51] <nixnoob> cuteharez, he wants to kno if the livecd has ftp
[17:51] <Buyydee> how do I make a starter from this command?  export MATLAB_JAVA=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre && matlab &
[17:51] <unravel> cuteharez: he's asking fore something that's on the live cd
[17:51] <socketbind> any idea on how to fix or debug the "Failed to initialize HAL" message I get randomly upon startup?
[17:51] <Flaky> hi
[17:51] <cuteharez> its included
[17:51] <cuteharez> i remember
[17:51] <cuteharez> oh live cd no
[17:51] <cuteharez> on unbuntu itself there is
[17:52] <Remanifest> Within Synaptic, if a program has the Ubuntu logo next to it, what does that mean?
[17:52] <socketbind> Buyydee: MATLAB_JAVA=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre matlab
[17:52] <Buyydee> socketbind: thanks
[17:52] <unravel> LOGAN: from the live cd, in gnome > go to Places menu > Connect to server , select ftp
[17:52] <foso> hey all, i just got awn, and want my normal toolbar to be gone, when i click autohide its still there, i can delete it, but if i do that will i be able to get it back?
[17:52] <socketbind> Remanifest: it means that it is supported by Canonical
[17:53] <Remanifest> socketbind: And that means it's supported by Ubuntu?
[17:53] <unravel> LOGAN: if you *need* something else, you can also search Synaptic and install, though anything you install will not last after a reboot.
[17:53] <WGGMk> quick question... What exactly is the difference between gksu and sudo?
[17:53] <Remanifest> socketbind: Not that I necessarily need it for the system to operate properly?
[17:53] <maybeway36> gksu is optimized for graphical apps
[17:53] <maybeway36> !gksu
[17:53] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[17:53] <unravel> WGGMk: sudo is for the command line, gksu/gksudo set up graphical environments properly
[17:53] <socketbind> Remanifest: it is just simply supported by ubuntu, it may a cruicial or not cruicial system component
[17:54] <unravel> if you launch a GUI app with sudo, you *may* eventually run into issues.
[17:54] <LOGAN> unravel thanks but I dont need additional downloads atm :)
[17:54] <WGGMk> maybeway36: unravel: thanks
[17:54] <sparr> how can i access the gnome network manager from kde?
[17:54] <WGGMk> should of tried the bot first eh
[17:54] <Remanifest> socketbind: MySQL would be non-essential, correct?
[17:54] <socketbind> Remanifest: unless you want a database server installed
[17:54] <Buyydee> socketbind: i get the error "there was an error creating the child process for this terminal" if i make a starter "program in terminal" and normal "application" does nothing at all
[17:54] <unravel> sparr: do you have GNOME installed alongside KDE?
[17:54] <unravel> if not, you'll need to install it.  nautilus, at least. i'm not sure what nautilus depends on.
[17:55] <Sir_Sid> when you use the -d option with aptitude, where does it download the package
[17:55] <Remanifest> socketbind: Alright, cool, thanks :P -- I prefer PostgreSQL, but I wasn't sure if MySQL was used by something essential.
[17:55] <sparr> unravel: yes
[17:55] <Buyydee> socketbind: normal "application" gives me "Failed to execute child process "MATLAB_JAVA=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre" (No such file or directory)"
[17:56]  * LimCore is amazed by size of ubuntu failure to provide fonts that doesn't suck
[17:56] <socketbind> Buyydee: that is kind of strange, maybe someone is more knowledgeable on it
[17:56] <socketbind> i have never experienced such a problem
[17:56] <Buyydee> socketbind: i've tried it some time, but i can only get it to run from the terminal, even scripts don't work...
[17:56] <unravel> sparr: yes? you have GNOME installed alongside KDE? or yes something else?
[17:57] <unravel> LimCore: what's so sucky about the included fonts. not all are bad.
[17:57] <sparr> unravel: yes i have GNOME instealled alongside KDE
[17:57] <Remanifest> socketbind: As I understand it, Synaptic tells me whether other programs depend on a package I'm trying to remove, right?
[17:57] <socketbind> Remanifest: yeah, it will always warn you
[17:58] <Buyydee> is there anyone else who might know how to start the following command with a launcher? export MATLAB_JAVA=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre && matlab &
[17:58] <Remanifest> sweet, so no worries then :)
[17:58] <vasilisa> Well im lost. My cd drives simply willl not mount correctly
[17:58] <unravel> sparr: ok, then nautilus should be *somewhere* in your KDE menus. not being a KDE user, i cant tell you where. you can launch it from the command line with 'nautilus' though
[17:58] <socketbind> well Buydee, i have googled the stuff and it seems that you get this when something is deeply broken with some device nodes
[17:58] <unravel> minus the 's
[17:58] <vasilisa> What are those little files in /media i deleted that said "cdrom0" and "cdrom1" but werent driectories?
[17:59] <unravel> vasilisa: those are mount points.
[17:59] <Moby> Hallo
[17:59] <socketbind> vasilisa: those were mount points ...
[17:59] <socketbind> : )
[17:59] <_LoneCrow> I heard that centos is better server package.. is this true?
[17:59] <vasilisa> okay... how do i get them back?
[17:59] <vasilisa> :(
[17:59] <Buyydee> socketbind: the problem is the incompatibility of compiz with java-6 i understand. the terminal command works around this like a charm and i'd love to do this with one click. i don't understand a word of what you just told me, sry :)
[17:59] <sparr> unravel: thanks.  found the applet, nm-applet
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> _LoneCrow: THis isnt the place for that type of question  try #Ubuntu-offtopic
[18:00] <LOGAN> is wine preinstalled on live cd?
[18:00] <maybeway36> LOGAN: no
[18:00] <unravel> nm-applet? i thought you wanted gnome's file manager.
[18:00] <Buyydee> socketbind: the ubuntu is quite fresh installed and i didn't mess conciously with "deep" stuff
[18:00] <LOGAN> awe
[18:00] <vasilisa> unravel / socketbind : Can they be remade?
[18:00] <maybeway36> you can install it with synaptic
[18:00] <maybeway36> or "sudo apt-get install wine"
[18:00] <unravel> vasilisa: try sudo mkdir /media/cdrom0 && sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1
[18:00] <christia1> hi.
[18:00] <LOGAN> im using live cd
[18:01] <vasilisa> unravel: That makes folders, and try as i might i cant get the cds to mount to them
[18:01] <maybeway36> you can install stuff when running live cd, it just goes away when you reboot
[18:01] <Kufad> i have downloaded opera for my ubuntu.. but it doesnt seem to run flash. How do i make it running flash ?
[18:01] <FastZ> Hey folks, I'm having problems getting sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv6626us laptop that's running Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.  I have read a lot of information and have noticed that a lot of people have had sound problems with the HP dv6000 series laptops.  This particular model uses the ICH8 family onboard audio device.  Anyone in here can point me in a good direction to figure out a fix for this?
[18:01] <socketbind> Buyydee: i'm not too certain that the stuff i have found would fix your problem : | maybe you can disable compiz for the time being?
[18:01] <unravel> vasilisa: CDs have never automounted when you've put them in?
[18:01] <socketbind> i personally disabled it because i think it is a bug parade
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Kufad: flash is broken.. and even the fix will not help if you are running opera
[18:01] <david_J> FastZ: You may need to compile alsa yourself
[18:01] <vasilisa> unravel: Yeah, to those mount points. But not to those folders. I have to select "open" to mount it there, any other option leaves it mounted on my desktop!
[18:02] <david_J> FastZ: What is the moudle you are trying to use?
[18:02] <Kufad> so i cant run flash in opera??
[18:02] <vasilisa> unravel: And it mounts to desktop regardless
[18:02] <socketbind> it seems so, it is pretty much broken kufad, maybe an older ver
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Kufad: Not at this time
[18:02] <unravel> mount points are folders.
[18:02] <socketbind> i think only the latest has this thing
[18:02] <vasilisa> unravel: These weren't
[18:02] <unravel> vasilisa: are you sure that it's *mounting* to the desktop, and not just showing the icon there?
[18:02] <vasilisa> unravel: They looked like link files
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Kufad: You can try the fix, but it could come back to bite you later when the real fix comes down
[18:03] <Kufad> okay.. but i tried firefox.. it said i needed flash plugin. I selected adobe flash.. but it didnt load it.
[18:03] <vasilisa> unravel: I dunno, it shows the icon on the desktop, yet i cant find it in /media/cdrom0 or cdrom1
[18:03] <Kufad> so i tried gnash, but that seems not to work properly on for example youtube
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Kufad: Read the /topic
[18:03] <unravel> vasilisa: hmm. my link is cdrom but cdrom0 and cdrom1 are the directories themselves.
[18:03] <vasilisa> i found out that my cd drives want to mount to hdc and hdd
[18:03] <Kufad> ok
[18:03] <socketbind> any idea on why acoustic management absouletly doesnt work with my harddisk? : |
[18:04] <vasilisa> unravel: my links are gone.
[18:04] <Buyydee> socketbind: i know this solution and it works, but my workaround starts matlab with compiz running, i'd just like to bring this into a starter
[18:04] <FastZ> david_J:  I've read where one individual did just that and it failed to fix his problem.  I haven't tried that route yet, so I won't rule that one out.  I'm not sure what module I'm trying to use.  Just trying to get the sound to work.  The output for lspci | grep Audio is 00:1b.0 Audio device:  Intel Corp. 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[18:04] <mediabuntu> hi all
[18:04] <david_J> FastZ: if it is snd_hda_intel, I had to download the latest alsa and install and pass some options to the module
[18:05] <vasilisa> What i did was erased the two link-like cdrom files and made cdrom0 and cdrom1 directories, then changed fstab so it mounted there.
[18:05] <david_J> FastZ: looks like mine
[18:05] <vasilisa> After that, DVDs wont run, Xine finds some sort of errror
[18:05] <vasilisa> even VLC just quits
[18:05] <Buyydee> another thing concerning launchers: i need to start the following command (java -Xms24m -Xmx30m -jar gwtb.jar) from the folder the file is located, probably due to bad programming in java. otherwise some icons don't appear. can i make the launcher change its working directory to a specified one and then launch the command above?
[18:05] <FastZ> david_J:  was there a set of instructions that you followed or did you know what you were doing?  this is the first time I've had to troubleshoot sound on a laptop running linux so I'm partially in the dark on this
[18:05] <mediabuntu> any one seen the vista volume mixer. i works really nice the whole idea just works.
[18:06] <spowers> i did a kernel upgrade and it broke my initrd, which now hangs during boot with little indication of what the problem might be. version 2.6.22-14-generic.  my subsequent attempts to fix the problem have resulted in losing my working initrd.bak file, so now i can't boot at all.  suggestions welcome
[18:06] <unravel> vasilisa: what are the permissions like in fstab?
[18:06] <david_J> FastZ: I lost the bookmark for it.. In fact I got the answer from a SuSE forum
[18:06] <_LoneCrow> I consider that on topic.  What are the pros and cons .. why is Ubuntu Server better than Centos?  I'd like to know we are going ot make a decision soon.  I like ubuntu for the great community support and documenation..  why do peopoe like centos better?
[18:06] <vasilisa> unravel: Um... i still don't quite get fstab so...
[18:07] <david_J> FastZ: google lead me there
[18:07] <vasilisa> unravel: atm there's no listing of either cdrom because i just removed them
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > _LoneCrow:
[18:07] <jrattner1> Question: Why does flash play in firefox even though I used firefox's "Install Missing Plugins" to install flashplugin-nonfree??
[18:07] <socketbind> Buyydee: i think you can use: "cd /dir; java -jar stuff.jar"
[18:07] <spowers> _LoneCrow: people like centos because their bosses say they do, or because their vendors say that RHEL is the only choice.
[18:07] <Buyydee> socketbind: i'll try that
[18:07] <unravel> vasilisa: next time you edit fstab, or any system file... copy the original first :P
[18:07] <vasilisa> unravel: how is /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   austo   defaults        0       0
[18:07] <spowers> people who want to get some work done generally like ubuntu better.
[18:07] <vasilisa> unravel: yeah, i know. thought i had tihs
[18:08] <maybeway36> auto not autso
[18:08] <vasilisa> yeah i just noticed that
[18:08] <_LoneCrow> What about ubuntu support for apache and tomcat?  How does Ubtuntu run that on a semi large scale on a server?
[18:08] <unravel> vasilisa: mine looks like: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[18:08] <Pici> _LoneCrow: You might get some more specific server questions answered in #ubuntu-server, fyi
[18:08] <Remanifest> What do you guys think of Slackware??
[18:08] <unravel> something tells me /dev/hdc is so not your cd drive
[18:08] <unravel> Remanifest: i think it's offtopic :P
[18:09] <reportingsjr> weeeeee
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Remanifest: PLease ask that if #Ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <vasilisa> unravel: so /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660     user,noauto,exec 0      0
[18:09] <reportingsjr> Connecting my bros half stack amp to my computer :D
[18:09] <socketbind> Remanifest: my friend worships it like a deity, i dont know i dont think it is so great
[18:09] <vasilisa> unravel: That should mount devicce hdc with full rights?
[18:09] <spowers> is kernel breakage ontopic?
[18:09] <socketbind> but yeah i shut up it is offtopic
[18:09] <_LoneCrow> Oh didnt even know there was an ubuntu-server channel thx
[18:09] <unravel> vasilisa: only if your cdrom is /dev/hdc ... and hdc would be a hard drive.
[18:09] <maybeway36> hdc is a cdrom on my debian system
[18:10] <vasilisa> unravel: For some reason it wants to mount my cdrom drives as hdc and hdd
[18:10] <macabro22> Salut
[18:10] <vasilisa> *shrug*
[18:10] <Buyydee> socketbind: this doesn't work. the 'child process' issue again when running it in terminal and normal 'application' seems not to be able to use the command 'cd', it reports 'unknown command'
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> spowers: Questions about your ubuntu install are always on topic
[18:10] <unravel> vasilisa: weird. yea, that should probably work then
[18:10] <FastZ> david_J:  does this look somewhat like what you had done?  http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=27776#
[18:11] <geonerd> exit
[18:11] <Buyydee> socketbind: i just had an idea, i'm going to write a script, locate it in the desired folder and create a launcher for the script, that might work
[18:11] <spowers> a kernel update from the main archives generated a bad initrd and my thinkpad will no longer boot.  has anyone else had that happen to them?
[18:11] <phosphoricx> I have a sound that is repeating in ALSA, I tried restarting ALSA, but it returns. How can I flush ALSA?
[18:11] <unravel> spowers: surely you have an older kernel you can boot with?
[18:11] <macabro22> guys I wanna report a bug
[18:12] <socketbind> Buyydee: that always should work, a perfect place would be /usr/local/bin or ~/bin but i think you already know that : )
[18:12] <joanki> i want to play a real player video.... it requires real player... what can i use to wtach it?
[18:12] <macabro22> how do I do that?
[18:12] <vasilisa> unravel: The source cant be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[18:12] <maybeway36> try vlc
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> spowers: It happes alot to people that have used automatix or envy scripts to install things more than any other reason
[18:12] <joanki> ok
[18:12] <slugone> i have a rar file and when i try to unpack it, it says unsupported archive type
[18:12] <Buyydee> socketbind: thanks for the tip, it's located in /usr/local/bin/tb :)
[18:12] <unravel> vasilisa: at this point i have no idea. sorry.
[18:12] <LOGAN> can next version of ubuntu please include filezilla as ftp client
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> spowers: Both of those are very bad ideas/scripts by the way
[18:12] <ithicine> slugone: sudo aptitude install unrar
[18:12] <vasilisa> maybeway36: it just crashes
[18:12] <spowers> i would never, ever use those
[18:12] <ithicine> slugone: then try unpacking again
[18:12] <vasilisa> This SUCKS
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar > slugone
[18:12] <slugone> 10-4
[18:12] <daniele_982> hello all someone know the program xmodmap?  this is the ouput of evtest http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49851/ but i not understand hot associate it to xmodmap
[18:12] <slugone> wait
[18:13] <slugone> which method
[18:13] <ArabEyes> jonaki . mplayer is not bad
[18:13] <david_J> FastZ: not really
[18:13] <spowers> my sources.list is as installed by the gutsy installer, only i use a closer mirror
[18:13] <slugone> ill try both
[18:13] <david_J> FastZ: I can tell you to get alsa-driver > 0.15, alsa-utils, alsa-oss
[18:13] <joanki> ArabEyes, it doesn't work
[18:13] <slugone> :p thx guyz
[18:13] <joanki> maybeway36, vlc doesn'tt work either
[18:14] <spowers> and since the new kernel version was basically the same as the old one, only there was a packaging difference, it didn't keep the old version
[18:14] <extern> is there a way to divide my internet bandwidth equally between various programs? If I'm downloading something, I can barely browse the internet, because all the speed goes for the download
[18:14] <jrattner1> Question: Why does flash play in firefox even though I used firefox's "Install Missing Plugins" to install flashplugin-nonfree??
[18:14] <david_J> FastZ: but I'll need to look up what options you have to pass to the module
[18:14] <socketbind> FastZ: i dont know if it is helpful but there are some backported modules avaiable, and among them there is snd-hda-intel
[18:14] <FastZ> david_J:  I guess I'll keep searching around a bit then.
[18:14] <spowers> also, i had an initrd.bak, but i tried to dpkg -i the linux-image package again and now i've got a bad initrd and a bad backup initrd ;/
[18:14] <ArabEyes> jonaki , i tried it and it works
[18:14] <socketbind> the name of the package is linux-backports-modules
[18:14] <socketbind> maybe it helps
[18:14] <ArabEyes> jonaki , try then the realplayer
[18:15] <daniele_982> hello all someone know the program xmodmap?  this is the ouput of evtest http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49851/ but i not understand hot associate it to xmodmap
[18:15] <FastZ> david_J: I've already installed the linux-backports-modules and that doesnt seem to make a difference
[18:15] <david_J> FastZ: Once you know what options to pass to the module is the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[18:15] <vasilisa> unravel: Okay, i tried putting one in,and when it gave me the option of what to do i chose "open with kaffeine", gt the same error... but NOW, it's not mounted on /media/cdrom0, yet it is open on the desktop!!!
[18:15] <david_J> FastZ: you should be good
[18:15] <FastZ> thanks, i'll try that and see what happens
[18:16] <vasilisa> whats this: DMA disabled on device LITE-ON - DVDRW LH-20A1H
[18:16] <sparr> how can i get the gnome network manager applet (nm-applet) to show up in my kde panel or system tray?
[18:16] <david_J> FastZ: I'll nopaste my file to give you a idea... maybe there'll be some documentation in the alsa-driver tree
[18:16] <unravel> vasilisa: open a terminal, type mount  ... see where it's mounted.
[18:16] <david_J> FastZ: to help you out on what options need to be passed
[18:16] <david_J> FastZ: http://rafb.net/p/Bk7k7Q32.html
[18:17] <vasilisa> unravel: i clicked open and it mounted. /dev/hdc on /media/cdrom0 type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,user=vasilisa)
[18:17] <socketbind> FastZ: have you read the info avaiable in the ubuntu wiki about your notebook?
[18:17] <tribaldata> anyone ever use tiger ? the security tool ?
[18:18] <david_J> socketbind: I did.. and nothing there worked for me
[18:18] <joanki> has anyone tried real player for linux?
[18:18] <vasilisa> .... man, im going to just reinstall linux if this keeps up
[18:18] <david_J> FastZ: All I can do is tell you what I did
[18:19] <daniele_982>  this is the ouput of evtest http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49851/ but i not understand hot associate it to xmodmap
[18:20] <vasilisa> Actually i should... yah.... why not
[18:20] <socketbind> daniele_982: maybe this helps: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#xmodmap_configuration
[18:20] <vasilisa> i miffed tihs one anyway
[18:21] <joanki> i downloaded realplayer for linux from the internet.  it is a .bin file.  it is on my desktop.  how do i install it now?
[18:21] <FastZ> socketbind:  I have dabbled around a bit in the wiki for this notebook but haven't read thru thoroughly.
[18:21] <daniele_982> socketbind: the problem is that i not understand what is the code that i must take by evtest
[18:21] <dredhammer> hello i just enabled fglrx rebooted and now ubuntu says there is no xv support available for the graphics card
[18:22] <Ripfox> Hello everybody
[18:22] <socketbind> joanki: make it an executable, it is easy to graphically but i have a localized gnome : |
[18:22] <FastZ> david_J:  thanks for the link
[18:22] <Ripfox> I am from the Ubu forums, first time really using irc
[18:22] <socketbind> daniele_982: i forget the entire thing on how to make them work sorry, but there was a applications that made this easy, cant recall the name
[18:22] <tribaldata> Hi Ripfox just ask your question  :)
[18:22] <joanki> socketbind, i have no idea what that means!
[18:23] <joanki> how do i make it an executable
[18:23] <socketbind> using console you would do something like: chmod +x real-player.bin
[18:23] <Ripfox> I have no questions...just here to listen learn and chat
[18:23] <socketbind> just substitute the filename
[18:23] <arte_> hello, there is a problem and i need to find out and kill a process which slows pc down
[18:23] <socketbind> if you have problems using the console
[18:23] <tribaldata> Ripfox: Excellent enjoy then :)
[18:23] <bikini_girl> is there any channel for jsp errors or servlet errors ?
[18:23] <arte_> plz cud u tell me a cmd
[18:23] <socketbind> then right click on the file, select permissions
[18:23] <socketbind> and select executable
[18:23] <joanki> k
[18:23] <brobostigon> arte_: top
[18:23] <Pici> Ripfox: General chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic fyi, no problem with you just listening though.
[18:23] <david_J> FastZ: your wirless card work too?
[18:24] <LOGAN> where do apps install on live cd and how to browse it?
[18:24] <arte_> brobostigon, ta
[18:24] <spykedtomato> hey all
[18:24] <daniele_982> socketbind: but if i paste the return of pression of the key you are able to understand what's the keycode?
[18:24] <calamari> hi
[18:24] <Tyczek> hey... what's are those apic errors on end of document? http://www.wklej.org/id/96210026b3
[18:24] <joanki> socketbind, i did the right click thingy but it doesn't open
[18:24] <socketbind> LOGAN: they will get installed on a ramdisk, you can browse which ones are installed by using synaptic package manager
[18:25] <FastZ> david_J:  the wireless worked out of the box perfectly.  the only thing I have noticed that's borked is the sound.  Have read that the built-in webcam doesnt work out of the box but that's not a big issue right this minute.  Sound is though, so I'm trying to figure that out
[18:25] <spykedtomato> anyone familliar with gtkpod? I'm trying to figure out how to sync the master playlist from a folder and INCLUDE all subfolders - but I'm snagged...
[18:25] <calamari> which feisty package creates the file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic  ?
[18:25] <socketbind> joanki: but why do you want to use realplayer? : |
[18:26] <arte_> brobostigon, just one more question alternate to file roller to unrar archieves faster and with no pc slow
[18:26] <socketbind> calamari: the kernel image package should do it
[18:26] <soundray> calamari: should be linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic
[18:26] <arte_> plz :)
[18:26] <calamari> okay thanks
[18:26] <brobostigon> arte_: no idea sorry
[18:26] <phosphoricx> anyone know how to list the processes which are using a module?
[18:26] <arte_> i found out it fr slowed it
[18:27] <arte_> when was unraring
[18:27] <joanki> socketbind, so i can watch dirty sexy money online
[18:27] <joanki> and it only plays in real player
[18:27] <arte_> ok anyway u helped me alot
[18:27] <FastZ> thanks for the help david_J and socketbind.  much appreciated.  I gotta get going though.  again, thanks.
[18:27] <arte_> !rar
[18:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[18:27] <hussain> hiii
[18:27] <hussain> I need help about a good html css ide pls
[18:27] <socketbind> FastZ: good luck with that stuff
[18:28] <FastZ> thanks
[18:28] <arte_> !info unrar-free
[18:28] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[18:28] <joanki> socketbind, any other suggestions =)
[18:28] <hussain> I'm used to use visual wb developer on xp ...is there an equivalent?
[18:28] <joanki> i gots to watch my desperate housewives, too =)
[18:28] <socketbind> i hate that intel allowed manufacturers to have several dozens codecs, now it is hard to support them
[18:29] <socketbind> well let me test if it even works under linux joanki
[18:29] <joanki> it does
[18:29] <socketbind> ah only viewers from the united states
[18:29] <socketbind> wonderful
[18:29] <Pici> !netsplit
[18:29] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[18:29] <joanki> haha
[18:29] <joanki> you're not in the us?
[18:29] <ciao> lol
[18:29] <socketbind> joanki: not really : ))
[18:29] <joanki> it takes SO long to make everything work on my ubuntu but i'm sure over time it will get easier
[18:30] <socketbind> i'm not sure that the watered down and old real player 10 version that you can get on linux would work with this
[18:30] <socketbind> maybe there is a package for it, that should be eaiser to install
[18:30] <socketbind> boom
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> joanki: sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player    is supposed to install a player that will play those files... per  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[18:30] <Juhaz> intel allowed? wtf? you think every application should need an explicit approval from intel before it can be run?
[18:31] <joanki> Jack_Sparrow, thankSSSSSS
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> joanki: Google is your friend..
[18:31] <joanki> Jack_Sparrow, too many friends at once is 2 much to handle =p
[18:31] <joanki> new to all this
[18:31] <TehBrandon> Ok, I installed vista and then ubuntu 7.10 (in that order) and for some reason it defaults to booting vista...no grub screen.
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> joanki: JUst a suggestion.. but until you get more comfortable with ubuntu.. you might want to stick with the official repos..
[18:32] <ompaul> !traffic
[18:32] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[18:32] <soundray> TehBrandon: then grub failed to install. Do you have more than one hard disk?
[18:32] <Juhaz> got to say those dumb bots are very well named
[18:32] <joanki> Jack_Sparrow, but i don't want to get used to them.... i want to learn how to use terminal
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> joanki: You can use the terminal and still stick to the official repos
[18:33] <jonas22> hi guys, I've got a problem wrt 7.10;  I have installed the Neutral cursors via the 'system->settings->appearance' install button, but when I chose them, I get cursors from different themes depending on what widget I am using
[18:33] <pastor> Does anyone know where my 'crossover' bottles are stored in Unbuntu?
[18:33] <spykedtomato> anyone familliar with gtkpod? I'm trying to figure out how to sync the master playlist from a folder and INCLUDE all subfolders - but can't figure it out - when I sync it only syncs the files in the main dir and not the subs...
[18:33] <socketbind> Juhaz: erm, not really. with intel hda cards, the card can have several dozen codecs and none of them are properly supported and are proprietary
[18:34] <joanki> Jack_Sparrow, sorry to ask, but i installed the mozilla -helix player
[18:34] <socketbind> like conexant, realtek and etc.
[18:34] <joanki> but first, how do i make it my default player
[18:34] <joanki> second, how do i even OPEN it?
[18:34] <joanki> ok i found a way to open it
[18:34] <bmk789_> how do i find out if im using a tickless kernel?
[18:34] <joanki> it's called helix
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl...
[18:35] <jonas22> so basically, although I have "neutral" selected in the Pointer section of 'appearance preferences', i still see cursors from the DMZ (Black) theme
[18:35] <RedHeron> ttfn
[18:35] <TopherHunt> Can anyone tell me how Gutsy treats Intel X3100?
[18:35] <TopherHunt> Can I do desktop effects etc?
[18:36] <TopherHunt> Can anyone tell me how Gutsy treats Intel X3100?
[18:36] <bottiger> how do you encrypt your home and swap partition? which program would you recommend?
[18:36] <socketbind> well i think it should work as intel develops the linux driver topherhunt
[18:36] <brobostigon> !patience | TopherHunt
[18:36] <ubotu> TopherHunt: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:36] <jonas22> my Intel 915GM/GMS/GML works well w/ desktop effects if that's any indication
[18:36] <socketbind> lemme check it if it is supported
[18:37] <LOGAN> aarg a small crash
[18:38] <larzen> can anyone tell me where I enter the ESSID in Ubuntu when setting up wifi network?
[18:38] <LOGAN> where are apps installed and when will the firefox flash (and other plugins) issue be corrected?
[18:38] <socketbind> larzen: networkmanager just lists it, if you want it with iwconfig then: iwconfig wlan0 essid youressid
[18:38] <larzen> I am coming from the Gentoo world and the Ubuntu linus is a little different
[18:38] <larzen> socketbind - what about if I want it to load up on startup?
[18:39] <socketbind> i think it can be done in /etc/network/intefaces
[18:39] <soundray> larzen: manual GUI setup: System-Administration-Network - click on the interface - select Properties
[18:39] <Ktron> Where does NetworkManager log to? I'm failing to connect to an openvpn vpn and I'm trying to find the logging
[18:39] <mirak> hi
[18:39] <larzen> soundray - the properties or "settings" are grayed out.
[18:39] <larzen> soundray - mind you, I am in a ubuntu-live cd.
[18:39] <socketbind> Ktron: i have it in /var/log/daemon.log
[18:39] <socketbind> pretty verbose
[18:40] <mirak> is there a way to copy files on a USB pen or whatever in a logical order ? It seems my autoradio takes files in the order they are wrote on the filesystem, and not alphabetically. That's anoying :/
[18:40] <LOGAN> hello?
[18:40] <banet436> Hi to everyone!  Which program may I use to burn a set of VOB, IFO, BUP files, to create a Video DVD?
[18:40] <gmarotta> 6hi logan
[18:40] <soundray> larzen: then your first stop should be Network Manager. Double click the icon next to the volume icon on the upper panel.
[18:41] <GHOST> hello
[18:41] <LOGAN> i guess i need to reinstall win98SE if I ever hope to get any work done again
[18:41] <soundray> larzen: sorry, I meant right-click
[18:41] <mnlchcn> hola a todos
[18:41] <GHOST> buenas tardes
[18:42] <larzen> soundray - perfect. I see the wifi network there.
[18:42] <larzen> I see my access point.
[18:42] <mahrellon> I need some help. I need shut down X and install a driver through a TTY (I think it's called TTy atleast) but when I try "gdm stop" or "init 3" or just switch to a tty (ctrl+alt+2) I always end up with a blank screen and a blinkin cursor to my upper left. Any ideas what I can do to solve this?
[18:42] <LOGAN> where are apps installed on live cd please. and is there any word on the firefox plugin issue?
[18:42] <soundray> larzen: then you should be connected already
[18:42] <maybeway36> mahrellon: boot in recovery mode
[18:42] <jonas22> does anyone know, about the X cursors?
[18:42] <socketbind> LOGAN: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:43] <socketbind> many apps just install icons in the applications menu
[18:43] <mahrellon> maybeawat36: lol I didn't think of that! Thanks m8. :)
[18:43] <jonas22> i would really prefer to use the Neutral theme but when hovering over certain widgets I drop back into DMZ (Black)
[18:43] <LOGAN> socked I need to extract info from an xml thats is installed witrh an app in live mode
[18:43] <jughead> I just installed kubuntu gutsy on my laptop and I remember reading something about ubuntu messing up laptop hard drives.  Was there a fix or what should I do or look for?  thanks!
[18:43] <gmarotta> since yesterday my Keyboard of my toshiba M105 when I press space it a p pears the letter p
[18:43] <LOGAN> and I want to see what i uploaded actually works
[18:43] <mahrellon> maybeway36, Sorry for missspelling your name. And thanks again :)
[18:43] <maybeway36> youre welcome
[18:44] <mahrellon> =)
[18:44] <larzen> yep! thanks!
[18:44] <LOGAN> flash, gnash, java, all those plugins cannot be installed on live mode
[18:44] <gmarotta> and so on  press h a p pears 6h
[18:44] <socketbind> LOGAN: well, installed apps have a special structure, can you tell the name of app?
[18:44] <GHOST> tats normal
[18:44] <soundray> jughead: ubuntu does not mess up hard disk drives
[18:44] <larzen> oh man.. this is great it usually takes me 2x 3x as long to get it working in gentoo
[18:44] <LOGAN> its filezilla
[18:44] <GHOST> lolyep
[18:44] <LOGAN> but I just need to know where live mode puts them
[18:44] <LOGAN> what folder or something
[18:45] <dorkface> Hi all.  What would be the best point-to-point file transfer protocol in terms of minimal overhead?  rsync?
[18:45] <jonas22> larzen: :)
[18:45] <socketbind> soundray: there was actually something like that with the power management of the drives
[18:45] <gmarotta> in both 7.04 and 7.10
[18:45] <soundray> jughead: some people believe that hard disks suffer from frequent spinning up/down. In truth, laptop hard disks are built for that.
[18:45] <GHOST> LODAN its usr bin apps i think
[18:45] <gmarotta> any  hel p
[18:45] <jonas22> dorkface: what kind of overhead;  network overhead?
[18:45] <dorkface> jonas22: yes
[18:45] <LOGAN> GHOST:  and how to navigate to there?
[18:45] <banet436>  Which program may I use to create a VideoDVD from a set of VOB, IFO, BUP files?  GnomeBaker doesn't work.
[18:46] <jughead> so the spinning up and down is unavoidable soundray ?
[18:46] <GHOST> LOGAN use yor window manager
[18:46] <soundray> jughead: if you're worried, you can look at /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf and change the timeout before it spins down HDs
[18:46] <TehBrandon> Ok, I installed vista and then ubuntu 7.10 (in that order) and for some reason it defaults to booting vista...no grub screen.
[18:46] <soundray> jughead: or disable spindown entirely
[18:46] <GHOST> LOGAN nautilus for ubutnu
[18:46] <Tilllinux> btw.: is there a mail service that provides email adresses like "@ubuntu" or "@linux" ?
[18:46] <jonas22> most protocols designed for that have equally small amt. of network overhead;  i'm not sure how rsync's built in one compares, but ftp is pretty light
[18:46] <soundray> TehBrandon: then grub failed to install. Do you have more than one hard disk?
[18:46] <Elorri> Hello, I'd like to ask for help regarding my Wifi connexion with ubuntu, is anyone can help me ?
[18:46] <TehBrandon> Yes
[18:46] <LOGAN> GHOST:  sure but I dont know where to find user bin
[18:47] <Tilllinux> TehBrandon: try changing the harddisk priority in the bios
[18:47] <GHOST> LOGAN im on xp now so :s
[18:47] <soundray> TehBrandon: use my nick, so I don't miss your reply. Don't follow Tilllinux advice just yet...
[18:47] <LOGAN> GHOST: lucky you
[18:47] <zkjellberg> Question: Anyone know of any HD tv tuners supported in linux?
[18:47] <Odd-rationale> I have some extra buttons on my laptop. How can I fond out the "name" of the button so that I can map it to something useful?
[18:47] <GHOST> lol ty
[18:47] <jughead> soundray, it looks like I only go into laptop-mode on batteries (which is uncommon for me) so I guess I'm good to go!  thank you kindly
[18:48] <soundray> TehBrandon: use the RecoveringUbuntu... link in the factoid (private message) and make sure grub installs to the first drive in the system
[18:48] <soundray> !grub > TehBrandon
[18:48] <slugone> got a question.......i wanna turn off my comp but im downloading a torrent how do i open my torrent and make it resume after a restart......i dont see the torrent program as "clickable" item
[18:48] <LOGAN> im on live cd. an app installed but dont know where to look for it
[18:48] <soundray> jughead: yw
[18:48] <LOGAN> probably on ramdisk or something
[18:48] <soundray> LOGAN: what did you install?
[18:49] <socketbind> but what kind of xml file do you need from filezilla?
[18:49] <maybeway36> slugone: i use ktorrent which is a full-featured bittorrent client
[18:49] <LOGAN> soundray:  I installed filezilla and trying to find the folder after importing the windows xml
[18:49] <maybeway36> maybe try just leaving the incomplete data onthe disk and ,maybe it will let you resume
[18:49] <slugone> im using the one that comes pre installed...how can i open it ?
[18:49] <socketbind> LOGAN: maybe ~/.filezilla
[18:49] <slugone> maybeway36: ill get that after :D
[18:49] <maybeway36> slugone: not sure... never used gnome bittorrent
[18:49] <spykedtomato> In gtkpod I'm trying to figure out how to sync the master playlist from a folder and INCLUDE all subfolders - but can't figure it out - when I sync it only syncs the files in the main dir and not the subfolders... I'm using gtkpod 0.99.10 on kubuntu gutsy with libgpod 0.6.0 with my iPod Classic 160Gb
[18:49] <LOGAN> socketbind: file browser, how to
[18:49] <Odd-rationale> slugone: alt+f2 "bittorrent"
[18:49] <socketbind> how to do that in a file browser?
[18:50] <Ktron> socketbind, You win, found what I needed there
[18:50] <Ktron> socketbind, thanks
[18:50] <spykedtomato> I'm willing to use another prog to sync my ipod if it will sync files when i make changes...
[18:50] <LOGAN> i really would like to find the xml file :)
[18:50] <slugone> ty
[18:50] <Odd-rationale> slugone: Wait. wrong command...
[18:50] <slugone> kk
[18:50] <socketbind> well logan if it is created by filezilla as its own configuration file, it must be in something like ~/.filezilla
[18:50] <hypn0> Odd-rationale: I think xev does that
[18:51] <LOGAN> I dont know where ~ is or how to browse to it
[18:51] <Odd-rationale> slugone: it is gnome-btdownload
[18:51] <soundray> LOGAN: in a terminal, type 'find ~ -mmin -120' (this shows all your personal files that have changed during the last two hours)
[18:51] <Tilllinux> soundray: however, that's the problem I'm experiencing as well... I installed windows on an internal hd (hda1) and linux on an external usb (sd... something... however, for grub it's hd(0,3)) but If I put in a section for a windows boot to grub, I think it hangs with initramfs (as I assume windows is on (hd1,0)). It just reads "Starting up..." but it doesn't... if I use different options (like hd1,2 it just says, "Partition doesn't exist")
[18:51] <Odd-rationale> hypn0: What is xev?
[18:51] <slugone> yea ....i never installed a client and im using 7.10
[18:51] <cookie> hello
[18:51] <kaminix^> Ought I use the highest compressionlevel available when compressing flac files? Is there any downside to using --compression-level-8?
[18:51] <cookie> what is PCM
[18:52] <calamari> in order to use a SATA hd for root, do I also need to compile in SCSI stuff?
[18:52] <LOGAN> soundray: do you mean I cannot use the file browser to navigate to the correct app folder.>?
[18:52] <zarathu> Fresh, clean Gutsy install.  Ran the updates as required and enabled restricted video drivers.  GDM will not start.  I'm using an 8800GTS
[18:52] <hypn0> in terminal, will tell you what key you press
[18:52] <soundray> Tilllinux: if windows is on hda1, the grub name for that partition is (hd0,0)
[18:52] <larson9999> is it me or does nautilus keep getting worse?
[18:52] <Odd-rationale> slugone: You can also go to edit menu - > internet and enable bittorrent.
[18:52] <zarathu> and the libwfb IS there.
[18:52] <cookie> hello, what is PCM
[18:52] <soundray> LOGAN: you can, but it may be in a hidden folder
[18:52] <Tilllinux> soundray: if I use hd0,0 grub will say, that this partition doesn't exist
[18:52] <Condoulo> cookie- I think PCM is your speakers audio. Do you have realtek sound?
[18:52] <Condoulo> *audio
[18:52] <soundray> Tilllinux: you have to use the (parentheses)
[18:52] <cookie> I do no tknow what do I have
[18:52] <LOGAN> soundray: how to unhide all hidden folder and files then
[18:52] <cookie> I just want to fix my sound
[18:53] <Tilllinux> I know
[18:53] <socketbind> Odd-rationale: have you tried keytouch?
[18:53] <cookie> when I play music loud...it goes low quality
[18:53] <soundray> LOGAN: why don't you do what I suggest first
[18:53] <LOGAN> ah found the show hidden files
[18:53] <Condoulo> cookie- in the sound mixer, try turning the Line volume all the way down
[18:53] <Condoulo> cookie- and then try testing your sound.
[18:53] <LOGAN> soundray: well i assumed its somewhere accessible like Program Files on windows
[18:53] <soundray> Tilllinux: is Windows on /dev/hda1 ?
[18:53] <deadlock> Is there a way to have sound from dif apps going to dis sources, like MUSIC/background to speakers and Ventrilo/other going to headset
[18:54] <Tilllinux> soundray: yes, I think so
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> socketbind: well, it's not on my keyboard. it's an extra button. I just want to know what's its name.
[18:54] <soundray> Tilllinux: you didn't put a space before or after the comma?
[18:54] <calamari> deadlock: do you have more than one sound card?
[18:54] <phosphoricx> I have a sound that is repeating in ALSA, I tried restarting ALSA, but it returns. How can I flush ALSA?
[18:54] <socketbind> Odd-rationale: well it should generate key events, on my asus notebook the keys do acpi events but they are mapped as keys i think
[18:55] <mirak> is there a way to copy files on a USB pen or whatever in a logical order ? It seems my autoradio takes files in the order they are wrote on the filesystem, and not alphabetically. That's anoying :/
[18:55] <socketbind> like the disable toucpad one, or the screen lock button
[18:55] <cookie> which one?
[18:55] <Tilllinux> !pastebin
[18:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:55] <cookie> Alsa or OSS mixer
[18:55] <Condoulo> cookie- ummm.... alsa.
[18:55] <Hoxie> I received this error this morning: Error- artsmessage- Sound Server Fatal Error: Error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (operation not permitted). And if I try to play mp3 or ogg, the player freezes and I cant play any sound???
[18:55] <cookie> what is the difference between them
[18:56] <Hoxie> Does anyone have any clue of where I could start to fix this?
[18:56] <calamari> I love how people ask a question then leave
[18:56] <socketbind> mirak: i guess nobody knows
[18:56] <Condoulo> cookie- I have no idea. o_O As long as my sound works, I could care less. I just noticed that sound quality can be very low when the line volume is high.
[18:56] <deadlock> calamari: No i do not.
[18:56] <socketbind> mirak: but well copying it one by one should accomplish it huh? :D
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> socketbind: does keytouch tell you the name of the button? I'm trying to use gconf-editor to map a button to a script. I just want to know the what the button is called.
[18:57] <mirak> socketbind: certainly
[18:57] <calamari> deadlock: then how could you even plug in the speakers and headphones at the same time?
[18:57] <mirak> socketbind: but I would rather kill myself
[18:57] <soundray> mirak: if you copy multiple files with cp, they should arrive at the destination in alphabetical order. Use cp -v (verbose)
[18:57] <socketbind> ahh sorry, odd-rationale then you should use xev that someone advised
[18:57] <phosphoricx> cookie: alsa
[18:58] <Merlin> who builds the install CDs for ubuntu?  I have a question about the kernel config on them
[18:58] <deadlock> calamari: Uh. Most PC's newer PC's have a headphone port in the front/more easily accessible location.
[18:58] <Odd-rationale> socketbind: OK thanks.
[18:58] <Odd-rationale> /me never heard of xev.
[18:58] <socketbind> i used it but it is very verbose, and my brains turn inside out on the topic of these multimedia keys and stuff thingies
[18:58] <windsor1> er, =) misstyle
[18:58] <soundray> Merlin: ask your question here. You will be redirected if appropriate
[18:58] <calamari> deadlock: yeah but that just plays the same thing as in the back.. either that or you have to set a jumper for either front OR back
[18:59] <calamari> deadlock: I suppose one option is if you have surround sound, then maybe you can use the surrounds as a second out?
[18:59] <Hoxie> Anybody have any clue on a 'Sound Server Fatal Error'?
[18:59] <Merlin> Where can I get a copy of the .config file for the kernel on the Ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 alternate install CD?
[19:00] <Merlin> Also are there any special patches used in this kernel besides the one here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/source/linux-source-2.6.22
[19:00] <soundray> Merlin: if you boot it, it should appear in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[19:00] <Vampire> Hi, is it the Ubuntu Support IRC Chat??? :o
[19:00] <soundray> !ubuntu | Vampire
[19:00] <ubotu> Vampire: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:00] <Pici> Vampire: Yes sir.
[19:01] <brobostigon> vampire: yes
[19:01] <Merlin> soundray: there is no /boot and no /proc/config*
[19:01] <Vampire> thx YES
[19:01] <elijah> hi
[19:01] <x3roconf> hi
[19:01] <Vampire> Äh i got a little small problem
[19:01] <elijah> anyone good with VMware install?
[19:01] <jonas22> speaking of booting the ubuntu installer did not recognize that i had made a /boot/ partition and messed up the grub config
[19:01] <Vampire> i found much solutions with google but all Crack's
[19:01] <LOGAN> flash plugin does not work (oh btw, don't use Gnash, at least not yet)
[19:01] <calamari> Merlin: locate the linux-image-(...).deb file, it is in there
[19:02] <jonas22> but i'm still stuck on this cursor problem;  i've installed my own set of cursors, and when I select them for use, I get different cursors hoving over different widgets
[19:02] <Onyx> How can I change the name that appears in the top panel on Gnome?
 hey search forums for "how i got flash to work"
[19:03] <Merlin> calamari: can you point me to the right website or ftp site?
[19:03] <MYRM1D0N> any idea when the bug with installing flash for firefox will be fixed?
[19:03] <brobostigon> logan: gnash is my only flash option as i have a mac, and it doesnt work very well.
[19:03] <cookie> crap
[19:03] <soundray> Onyx: System-Administration-Users and Groups (change the full name)
[19:03] <cookie> I fucked up my sound
[19:03] <calamari> Merlin: you have the cd, right?
[19:03] <Pici> !language | calamari
[19:03] <ubotu> calamari: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:03] <Merlin> calamari: yes
[19:03] <LOGAN> i just read the flash bug is fixed but wont be released untill april next year O_O
[19:03] <mirak> soundray: they don't, I would ask otherwise. cp doesn't take in alphabetical order, unless you use * but it won't recurse.
[19:03] <calamari> Pici: excuse me
[19:03] <evan__> hey how can i get writing rights on my fat partition?
[19:04] <calamari> Pici: that'd be cookie
[19:04] <Vampire> Is there a Standard Root Password in ubuntu v.5.10 PC
[19:04] <LOGAN> brovodtigon well gnash is far from actually compatible yet
[19:04] <brobostigon> even_: mount as rw.
[19:04] <elijah> i got flash to work for linux
[19:04] <Pici> calamari: Sorry about that.
[19:04] <socketbind> bye
[19:04] <cookie> could somebody help me fix my sound...tell me how much to raise each bar?
[19:04] <Vampire> rw?
[19:04] <brobostigon> even_: man mount
[19:04] <cookie> I really suck at sound
[19:04] <x3roconf> nice to hear
[19:04] <brobostigon> rw = read write
[19:04] <calamari> Merlin: okay, go ahead and put in the cd
[19:04] <Vampire> aha
[19:04] <LOGAN> i did some easy tests and talked to the def. many issues remain
[19:05] <Vampire> sry, im a complet newbie
[19:05] <Onyx> soundray: It's telling me that I'm using an invalid character.  Is there any way to get it to accept it?  (it's a comma)
[19:05] <Merlin> calamari: i think i found it
[19:05] <Merlin> calamari: is this it: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-14-server_2.6.22-14.47_amd64.deb
[19:05] <calamari> Merlin: then go to the directory where it is mounted and do: find . -name linux-image-*.deb
[19:05] <deadlock> calamari: Not always in the alsa mixer you can pick multiple dif channels. So i didnt know if it was possible with the software mixer to do anything like that. Just a question sorry for wasting your time.
[19:05] <x3roconf> i have nver had any sound issues with ubuntu lol
[19:05] <Merlin> calamari: oh excellent
[19:05] <Merlin> calamari: thank you
[19:05] <evan__> hey how can i get writing rights on my fat partition?
[19:05] <calamari> Merlin: yw
[19:05]  * BernardB Reboot.
[19:05] <cookie> hello
[19:06] <cookie> could somebody please help me fix my sound...I messed it up!
[19:06] <cookie> I do not know what I need to fix or what I broke
[19:06] <brobostigon> even_: read manpage on mount, that will tell you.
[19:06] <calamari> Merlin: then you'll need to extract data.tar.gz .. beware, it extracts to the current directory, so make a directory for it first
[19:06] <Spitz> hi all
[19:06] <windsor1> cookie: do you know how to use a terminal?
[19:06] <cookie> yes
[19:06] <windsor1> cookie: try alsamixer
[19:07] <cookie> I have alsa and OSS mixer in Volume Control
[19:07] <Orfintain> set email @emorriso@vt.edu
[19:07] <cookie> what is the difference between them?
[19:07] <Vampire> the "manpage" is something like the /? in DOS? Im confused :8
[19:07] <Vampire> i tried mount in the "Bash" and got a nice listing
[19:07] <windsor1> cookie: you probably want alsa, I believe OSS sound system is depreciated
[19:07] <KalEl> alsa?
[19:08] <Orfintain> yep
[19:08] <Pici> Vampire: similar.  do man mount      press q to quit the manpage
[19:08] <KalEl> i have a problem with sound i don't know how to fix it, or actually even what exactly is the problem
[19:08] <Vampire> thx
[19:08] <Vampire> :))
[19:08] <jane_m> how do i check the free percentage of an unmounted partition?
[19:09] <evan__> hey how can i get writing rights on my fat partition?
[19:09] <juanf03> how do i get my keyboard to work properly
[19:09] <cookie> ok...in alsa...how much does te master bar have to be?
[19:09] <KalEl> the problem manifests thus: 1) some sounds come with lots of intermittent 'jitters' or 'clicks' 2) Frets on Fire - the game stops the sound system first time i press any fret
[19:09] <windsor1> KalEl: I like to use alsamixer (from a terminal) to begin troubleshooting sound. It will tell you if alsa recognized your card.
[19:09] <juanf03>  cannot write ascii symbols
[19:09] <proqesi> evan__: sudo or chown/mod/grp
[19:09] <brobostigon> evan_: i told you
[19:09] <VolVE> Hi all, I'm trying to get x264 mkv files to playback and I'm having no luck. I installed Mplayer but it won't even open the file saying "could not initialize video filters" - are there some missing packages I should try?
[19:09] <cookie> Alsa Help
[19:09] <proqesi> evan__: or edit your fstab
[19:10] <Jimdb> hi
[19:10] <cookie> I need some help with alsa
[19:10] <windsor1> cookie: I'd set all the bars to 100% for testing, and make sure they aren't muted (it will show 2 "M" characters under the bar.
[19:10] <KalEl> windsor1, ok thanks... please let me reboot in linux - brb in 5 mins
[19:10] <x3roconf> type man alsa
[19:10] <cookie> what is the PCm bar and what does it do?
[19:10] <evan__> proqesi : yeah thats what i already looked at but i dont know what to add or remove there?
[19:10] <windsor1> cookie: be careful if you have the computer hooked up to a power amplifier or speakesr that can get LOUD. =)
[19:10] <jane_m> how do i check the free percentage of an unmounted partition please
[19:11] <T__> I can run nothing from cdrom thru terminal, I have tried chmod, doesnt help. Can anyone help
[19:11] <windsor1> KalEl: np, I will help if I can.
[19:11] <cookie> what is the Mic Boos
[19:11] <evan__> jane_m right click on the partition en there it is
[19:11] <evan__> ohh yeah jane_m click properties
[19:11] <jane_m> can i do it from the command line evan__
[19:11] <proqesi> evan__: read a howto on editing it
[19:12] <windsor1> cookie: Mic boost will function differently depending on your hardware, but the idea is to make the microphone input more sensitive.
[19:12] <LOGAN> would ubuntu be able to boot from fat32? (I wanna watch a dvd as long as I cant boot into windows)
[19:12] <x3roconf> sure
[19:12] <windsor1> cookie: by the way, if you prefix your lines with my nick name, I can read it easier, this tends to be a busy channel.
[19:12] <cookie> how about IEC958 and IEC958 P
[19:13] <evan__> proqesi : kk i will
[19:13] <cookie> windsor1: how about IEC958 and IEC958 P
[19:13] <evan__> jane_m not sure
[19:13] <jane_m> evan thank you.
[19:13] <KalEl> the alsa mixer response comes after a good amount of lag in my system, is it supposed to be like that?
[19:13] <windsor1> cookie: looks like something specific to your sound chipset... what is your current situation in troubleshooting? has your sound ever worked on this computer before?
[19:14] <otman> join #ubuntu-sa/
[19:14] <proqesi> jane_m: mount the drive and type df.
[19:14] <LOGAN> i try booting into a linux that is able to continue boot from HDD
[19:15] <cookie> windsor1: It still does...I think I fixed it! But when I talk on skype, and I have my mic and mic boost to 0, can the other person still hear me?
[19:15] <LOGAN> that way I can at least watch some dvds
[19:15] <cookie> windsor1: I tried and it can...but why?
[19:15] <otman> how i can change the interface lang to from english to frensh on ubuntu
[19:16] <windsor1> cookie: probably not, but don't take that as a guarantee. =) You can simply mute the mic input using alsamixer or the desktop mixer widget that may or may not be on your desktop panel.
[19:16] <otman> plz some can tell how i can change the interface lang from english to frensh
[19:17] <Vampire> I understand nothing!
[19:17] <otman> lol
[19:17] <cookie> thank you windsor1
[19:17] <windsor1> cookie: you may have more than one sound device. For example, if you have a USB headset for skype, it will appear to alsa as a different sound device than your on-board sound hardware.
[19:17] <zimon> otman, system > administration > language support .. if you're a gnome user.
[19:17] <windsor1> cookie: then they would have separate sound controls (and mute controls)... No problem. =)
[19:18] <Vampire> Where can i ste that damn root password! On i wasent asked and now is a * root pw wich i dont know :'-(
[19:18] <Pici> !root | Vampire
[19:18] <otman> yes zimon
[19:18] <otman> i did that
[19:18] <windsor1> Vampire: sometimes you can do a "sudo passwd root"
[19:18] <otman> but no think happen
[19:18] <Pici> windsor1: Please don't suggest that.
[19:18] <ubotu> Vampire: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:19] <zimon> otman, what did you do there?
[19:19] <ynni> Trying to get a netgear wg111v3 wireless adapter working. I can't extract the .inf files from the windows drivers. There is a setup.exe on the cd and if I install this with wine I can't find any .inf or .sys in the resulting folder
[19:20] <ynni> and cabextract or unshiled don't recognize the setup.exe as a valid cabinet file
[19:21] <Kirua_> !random
[19:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about random - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:22] <Kirua_> ups
[19:22] <gio> hello
[19:23] <x3roconf> anyone using clamav-milter?
[19:23] <gio> are there any?
[19:24] <dejand2> re, is it allowed to have in dhcpd.conf something like http://rafb.net/p/mMkgQq41.html
[19:26] <gio> are there in ubuntu any program for looking my CPU Usage, HDD and ram every time like desktop bar or like somthing and running when log intu ubuntu?
[19:27] <x3roconf> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:27] <dejand2> & uptime
[19:27] <brobostigon> gio: gkrellm
[19:27] <ICQnumber> are wine and winetools included in the general installation?
[19:27] <x3roconf> or top
[19:27] <brobostigon> ICQnumber: no
[19:27] <gio> i need to install for looking for that because sometimes my processor get hot and restarting
[19:27] <gino> gio: top and htop... for me htop is very good
[19:27] <gino> aaaaa
[19:27] <erUSUL> gio: there are many... you have panel applets or things like conky or gkrell
[19:28] <Vampire> ubotu i looked at the page and there stood this: it needs YOUR USER Password
[19:28] <Vampire> but it dosent work?
[19:28] <Pici> Vampire: ubotu is a bot.

[19:28] <gino> gio: exist an applet for gnome: sensors-applet 1.7.12"
[19:28] <Pici> Vampire: sudo command, asks for a password, that is your user's password.
[19:28] <Vampire> dont work
[19:28] <x3roconf> !ubotu random
[19:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about random - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:29] <Vampire> At the Setup i was asked for my Real Name, User Name and a Password
[19:29] <Vampire> that password works for login
[19:29] <gio> Gino: and there is visual face of my CPU, RAM and HDD informations?
[19:29] <Vampire> sudo tells me it's wrong
[19:30] <Pici> Caps?
[19:30] <Vampire> no
[19:30] <Vampire> keyboard layout is right
[19:31] <gio> Vampire you don't have Root pass maybe
[19:31] <brobostigon> gio:gkrellm does that for me.
[19:31] <Vampire> whitout i gain an error :)
[19:31] <jimcooncat> can anyone recommend good cheap personal black-only laser printer? in usa.
[19:31] <tushyd> if I installed a window manager like flux box, would it be easy to switch back and forth between metacity and fluxbox?
[19:32] <x3roconf> vampire u shold enable ur root account llol
[19:32] <gino> gio: are separate:cpu ram HDD usage are in an applet calls "monitor del sistema "in spanish, inenglish "system monitor" and this give you a usage of then (net, swap),are in this applet, sorry my english
[19:32] <Pici> !noroot | x3roconf
[19:32] <ubotu> x3roconf: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[19:32] <ZLOY-PUZIK> приыв
[19:32] <Vampire> how? :o
[19:32] <therese> please help... Just removed Vista on a new toshiba L40 and installed Kubuntu. Need help finding wifi card and set it up
[19:32] <x3roconf> *tf?
[19:32] <Pici> jimcooncat: try ##hardware
[19:32] <QMario> Have any of you had trouble recording with a microphone with the AC97' integrated sound card? What about the VIA8237 or VIA82xx?
[19:32] <ZLOY-PUZIK> hello pliz help me
[19:33] <jimcooncat> k Pici, thanks
[19:33] <Pici> Vampire: What is the error you get when you try to sudo?
[19:33] <gino> ZLOY: what you need?
[19:33] <tushyd> if I installed a window manager like flux box, would it be easy to switch back and forth between metacity and fluxbox?
[19:33] <Vampire> mom i copy it
[19:33] <tribaldata> therese: did you check in console
[19:33] <stunatra> tushyd, I can't see why not.
[19:34] <therese> tribaldata: quite new to linux:-)
[19:34] <Vampire> Sorry, try again.
[19:34] <tribaldata> therese: do you know how to get to console ?
[19:34] <Vampire> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[19:34] <x3roconf> lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[19:34] <therese> tribaldata: its up now:-)
[19:35] <Pici> x3roconf: Stop, this is a support channel.
[19:35] <pike_> tushyd: do you mean to switch wm for gnome or just to login to diff wm at login screen?
[19:35] <x3roconf> ok soorry
[19:35] <tushyd> switch wm for gnome would be preferrable
[19:35] <tribaldata> therese: excellent type in :   ipconfig
[19:35] <Pici> Vampire: Are you still on the liveCD or are you in your actual install?
[19:35] <Vampire> i installed it with the Install CD Version 5.10 PC
[19:35] <Pici> Vampire: And are you on the same user that the install created, or did you make any new ones?
[19:35] <Vampire> same
[19:35] <therese> tribaldata: you mean ifconfig:-)??'
[19:36] <Vampire> couldn't create a new one
[19:36] <Vampire> it want's every time this gd password
[19:36] <tushyd> pike, switch wm for gnome
[19:36] <Pici> !5.10 | Vampire
[19:36] <ubotu> Vampire: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[19:36] <therese> tribaldata: typed ifconfig, and got some lines yes:-)'
[19:36] <Vampire> y
[19:37] <BehiiMehii> Anyone care to help a bit with this thing?
[19:38] <Vampire> Every time the same!
[19:38] <gio> gDesklets any one try that? there is a lot of bugs i think and don't work properly :(
[19:38] <Nexus> Hi
[19:38] <Tilllinux> soundray: do you have a clue, why grub just stops loading?
[19:38] <Vampire> User and Groups want my password!
[19:39] <ompaul> Vampire, that is normal
[19:39] <Vampire> and then comes an error MSG wrong root pw
[19:39] <therese> anyone there who can help me set up my wirelesscard??
[19:39] <Nexus> any ideas how i´m able to convince a friend using Ubuntu
[19:39] <ompaul> Vampire, did you give it a root password?
[19:39] <tribaldata> therese: check your private
[19:39] <Tilllinux> Nexus: why doesn't he want to use ubuntu? games?
[19:39] <tushyd> therese, does your wireless card show up when you type iwconfig
[19:39] <pike_> tushyd: sorry i got busy.  its very easy yes.  simplest example is just pkill metacity; nohup fluxbox& when in gnome terminal
[19:39] <Vampire> what ever it is
[19:39] <Nexus> it sounds strange ,but they dislike the name
[19:39] <ompaul> Vampire, it is your password if yiou are the "first user" on the box
[19:40] <tushyd> pike_, thanks, and installing fluxbux, do I just apt-get install?
[19:40] <gino> gio: yes i try this and gkrellm, and gdesk is heavy weigth and gkrellm dont work popperly, but the applet for gnome panal work rigth for me
[19:40] <Vampire> during the setup i created a user with this setup: Real Name, User Name and pw
[19:40] <therese> tushyd: no wireless extension it says
[19:40] <Nexus> saying an operating system with this name can´t be good
[19:40] <pike_> tushyd: yeah. no if you want to login to fluxbox just click sessions  button at login screen but you prob know that
[19:40] <pike_> no/now
[19:40] <therese> tribaldata: private???? using x chat
[19:40] <tushyd> cool pike_, thanks
[19:40] <Tilllinux> Vampire: use the pw you specified for the "User Name"
[19:41] <Vampire> don't work :(
[19:41] <x3roconf> vampire waht happens if u type sudo su and type your password
[19:41] <Vampire> mom
[19:41] <Lapinux> therese: do you know what your wireless card is?  type lspci in console and see if its listed for starters...
[19:41] <Vampire> Sorry, try again.
[19:41] <x3roconf> hmm
[19:41] <BehiiMehii> How do I get Ubuntu to dual boot, so I can chose two use either Windows of Linux upon startup?
[19:41] <gio> you forget your root password Vampire so you must remind it :)
[19:41] <zimon> Nexus, why do you want them to use ubuntu? if that's their argument .. i'd leave them alone :-)
[19:41] <Vampire> how
[19:42] <Tilllinux> BehiiMehii: easiest way is to install Windows *before* Ubuntu
[19:42] <Vampire> i've got only one damn pw here
[19:42] <Vampire> and this i have set in the setup
[19:42] <Nexus> because i convinced him to use linux
[19:42] <therese> lapinux... i do not know what kind it is. built in... new toshiba satelilite l40
[19:42] <Tilllinux> check your capslock ;D
[19:42] <Vampire> off
[19:42] <Nexus> but he´s just before to install fedora core
[19:42] <iandi> whilst using GNU ftp, how may I change my machine's directory to 'put' a file on a remote machine?
[19:42] <ompaul> !supportroot
[19:42] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[19:42] <Nexus> and i can´t believe that he might handle it
[19:42] <Lapinux> therese: type lspci in your console and look for the wireless card in the list
[19:42] <BehiiMehii> Tilllinux: I already have Windows on it, and it's just running off the CD, at the moment
[19:42] <gio> BehiiMehii install both of systems Win and Lin but the first on one drive letter C: and other on D: and thats all
[19:42] <therese> lapinux many lines there... what are we looking for
[19:43] <zimon> Nexus, so let him. fedora is fine for .. some people.
[19:43] <Tilllinux> if you're going to install on the same hd, it will work "automagically"
[19:43] <Lapinux> look for network cards
[19:43] <gio> clear
[19:43] <Nexus> and guess who´s the one who will be called if something doesn´t fit *g*
[19:43] <iandi> Nexus, are you from Germany?
[19:43] <Nexus> yes
[19:43] <therese> lapinux is this it?? 05:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[19:43] <iandi> How is the weather?
[19:44] <x3roconf> bad
[19:44] <Vampire> Ein Deutscher :)
[19:44] <Vampire> Aber schätze mir is nich mehr zu helfen
[19:44] <x3roconf> -50 C
[19:44] <Tilllinux> iandi: not cold enough to freeze the water :p
[19:44] <Nexus> ah sind hier noch weitere Deutsche anwesend?
[19:44] <zimon> iandi, snow
[19:44] <ompaul> !de | Vampire
[19:44] <ubotu> Vampire: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:44] <iandi> hehehehe.
[19:44] <Lapinux> therese: thats probably the wired card, do you see any other refered to as wireless or ehternet?
[19:44] <iandi> It's very cold here in Southern California
[19:44] <iandi> Which is normally sunny land.
[19:44] <Lapinux> *ethernet
[19:44] <Vampire> I can good english :P
[19:44] <pike_> its warm in KY
[19:44] <ompaul> !offtopic
[19:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:44] <therese> lapinux not as I can see
[19:44] <iandi> ompaul: right.
[19:45] <zkjellberg> Question: Does anyone know of any good HD tv tuners for linux?
[19:45] <iandi> Back to business
[19:45] <iandi> whilst using GNU ftp, how may I change my machine's directory to 'put' a file on a remote machine?
[19:45] <Lapinux> therese: whats the make and model of the laptop?
[19:45] <pike_> zkjellberg: i like hauppauge stuff
[19:45] <Vampire> i come back later. I eat something.
[19:45] <iandi> my local machine*
[19:45] <phrac> Anyone know why icons would be missing from certain applications in gnome?  The icons are on the system but all I get is like a black default icon.
[19:45] <Nexus> is there a linux distribution for Daus out there
[19:45] <sirbijan> hello all
[19:45] <iandi> Any of you Euros going to Sensation? :o
[19:45] <zkjellberg> pike_: Do you know of any HD cards supported by linux? I like hauppauge, but i'm struggling to find an HD tv tuner that is supported.
[19:45] <BehiiMehii> Oh, and one more thing, the resolution is too big, but I can't change it, so it's hard to go through the installation process, is there an easy way of getting through it?
[19:45] <sirbijan> my sound doesn't work! The sound applet on my taskbar has a big red stop sign on it!
[19:45] <sirbijan> what should I do?!
[19:46] <zimon> Nexus, i'd tell your friend to try the live-cds/dvds first ... he'll find out which one he likes better
[19:46] <therese> lapinux its a Toshiba satellite L40-14y
[19:46] <sirbijan> I'm on a clean intall of Ubuntu 7.10
[19:46] <Nexus> oh thats a good idee right
[19:46] <pike_> zkjellberg: well i ended up going the route of hdhomerun wich basically is 2 tuners and it just streams it to your comp after you set it up on the lan but.. *shrugs*
[19:46] <ompaul> Nexus, this is #ubuntu we support #ubuntu not $distro please stay on topic
[19:46] <gio> clear
[19:47] <therese> Lapinux. It has a switch that was used in vista to turn it on and off... Its on now
[19:47] <Lapinux> therese: im going to search and see if i can narrow the wifi cards they used in that model down
[19:47] <Tilllinux> ompaul: sry, but how shall a 'not geek' user know that there's a channel for looking for distros :p (if there's one)
[19:48] <Pici> Tilllinux: Thats why he was telling them.
[19:48] <therese> lapinux: thank you so much helping this new girl in Linux:-)
[19:49] <Drixx> is there limewire for linux ??
[19:49] <gio> what the strange chat :(
[19:49] <gio> i can't see the nicknames on the chanel
[19:49] <pike_> Drixx: there is limewire and frostwire
[19:50] <pike_> Drixx: pretty much same thing
[19:50] <Drixx> pike_: how do i install it ?
[19:50] <ompaul> !limewire | Drixx
[19:50] <ubotu> Drixx: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[19:50] <pike_> Drixx: frost is basically a open lime clone
[19:51] <Drixx> pike_ : kk ... thnx ..
[19:51] <bob2001> I need help mounting a flashdrive
[19:51] <BehiiMehii> Hey Tilllinux, would you mind helping me in query for a bit? :/
[19:51] <Tilllinux> I'm still looking for a solution on my grub problem ^^ (grub on external device (/dev/sdc), ubuntu on (hd0,3), windows on /dev/hda1) here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49861/ ... someone over there in #grub said, it could be an initramfs
[19:51] <pike_> bob2001: unplug replug then type dmesg | tail do you see an sdb1 or sda1 etc?
[19:52] <LOGAN> rebooted into a linux live cd that allows to run from hdd, thus freeing my dvd drive to watch a movie
[19:52] <gio> need CPU, RAM and Hard Disk browser which starts on login to ubuntu, and show CPU usage, Ram Usage and jard disk free size informations on one tag!! please can eny say which the program i need ?
[19:52] <pike_> !conky | gio
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <tribaldata> gio : htop
[19:52] <brobostigon> gio: try gkrellm, that does what you ask for me,
[19:53] <bob2001> says sda1
[19:53] <Anubyss> does ubunto work good on PS3
[19:54] <brobostigon> bob2001: mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[19:54] <LOGAN> does Ubuntu allow continue booting live cd from hdd by detecting the a cd folder copied to hdd?
[19:55] <bob2001> I try to mount using mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /cdrom and get an error mounting /dve/sda1 on /cdrom failed: no such device
[19:55] <Dr_willis> bob2001,  use /dev/sda not sda1 - IF sda is the cdrom drive
[19:56] <Lapinux> therese: i cant even find that laptop on toshiba's site
[19:56] <primanox> I'm a newbie and I'm trying to install cdcontrol on ubuntu. It's not in the add programs, but it is an ubuntu approved software package. I downloaded it from ubuntu, and installed it, but it is not showing up in the applications, or in the add applications.
[19:56] <gulli> are there known problems with grub installing ubuntu?
[19:56] <primanox> help
[19:56] <Dr_willis> bob2001,  or is there some reason you are using vfat filesystem, and cdrom as the mount point? cd's are not vfat
[19:56] <gio> hey any can help with Averatec C3500 usb? it doesn't recognize usb flash drive, mouse, and any usb :(
[19:56] <therese> lapinux i did find it on a norwegian site toshiba.no... but that wont help you I guess:-)
[19:56] <bob2001> same error :No such device
[19:57] <x3roconf> type whereis cdcontrol
[19:57] <bob2001> DR_willis I am trying to install from a flash drive
[19:57] <Drixx> !limewire
[19:57] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[19:57] <Lapinux> therese: i was just trying to find the detailed specs on it
[19:57] <Dr_willis> bob2001,  install Ubuntu from a flash drive with  the iso file on it?
[19:57] <therese> lapinux here is the norwegian http://nordic.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/productPage.do?LNG=18&service=ND&PRODUCT_ID=137255&toshibaShop=false
[19:58] <bob2001> no I have extracted the files from the alternet CD to the flash drive
[19:58] <primanox> I typed it in, but the window just shuts down
[19:58] <Omni|Work> How do you get a list of available packages on the command line?
[19:58] <Omni|Work> I want to search for a particular package to install and I know it should have 'terminus' in its name.
[19:58] <brobostigon> Omni|Work: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <tribaldata> Omni|Work: apt-cache search nameofpackage
[19:59] <chazco> Is there anyway i can view how much power this PC is using (in watts)?
[19:59] <bob2001> I have booted from the flashdrive and following the how to it says when you get to teh part where the instller need the cd you mount the flashdrive to /cdrom and it goes from there
[20:00] <tubetopbaby> howdy all!!! HELP!!!!  LOL
[20:00] <Drixx> how do i install limewire ??
[20:00] <AnUsIaXxX> hiho ;p
[20:00] <primanox> can someone msg me and walk me through this install process?
[20:00] <eazyass> ahoy ahoy
[20:00] <x3roconf> !apt-get | Drixx
[20:00] <ubotu> Drixx: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[20:00] <Ali_ix> chazco: http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/
[20:00] <chazco> POwertop is Intel only... think this is AMD
[20:00] <Omni|Work> tribaldata: Thanks a bunch.  Now I know what apt-cache is good for.
[20:01] <tubetopbaby> i installed the Sun JDK via synaptic, but when I go to the terminal which java give me /usr/bin/java which points to /etc/alternatives/java
[20:01] <tribaldata> Omni|Work: my pleasure :)
[20:01] <primanox> I'm a newbie and I'm trying to install cdcontrol on ubuntu. It's not in the add programs, but it is an ubuntu approved software package. I downloaded it from ubuntu, and installed it, but it is not showing up in the applications, or in the add applications.
[20:01] <tubetopbaby> i was hoping it would set the path and Java_home.....
[20:01] <Dr_willis> Drixx,  for frostfire - i just go to their site. get the .deb and install it.
[20:01] <tubetopbaby> and change /usr/bin/java
[20:02] <Onyx> Does anyone here use pam_pkcs11?
[20:02] <therese> lapinux: did it help at all???? Do not want to go back to windows just for a wifi problem that I guess can be fixed:-)
[20:02]  * Nekiruhs logged in.
[20:02] <x3roconf> type 'cdcontrol' in urt terminal window
[20:02] <Pici> primanox: Its a cli program, use a terminal.
[20:02] <x3roconf> your*
[20:02] <fed1> primanox: take the terminal
[20:02] <tribaldata> therese: did you manage to see your card ?
[20:02] <Baversjo> Hello, anyone know a guide for the httpd.conf file? I just want to replace the deafult apache file and use my own directories and so on :P
[20:02] <fever> hey
[20:02] <tubetopbaby> any ideas?...
[20:02] <Lapinux> therese: havent found it yet, gonna check out that link you have me, did you see it listed there?
[20:02] <fed1> hey fever
[20:03] <Onyx> Hmmmmmm
[20:03] <x3roconf> !terminal | Primanox
[20:03] <ubotu> Primanox: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:03] <tubetopbaby> howdy fever
[20:03] <primanox> alt+f2 for term right?
[20:03] <fever> I am trying to generate all possible outcomes from 2 number... i remember i did it before by using the for i in .... etc anyone have any idea how i can do it
[20:03] <therese> lapinux: it did not say what kind of card it was... just wifi compitable and so on
[20:03] <fever> and a link to the faq page
[20:03] <therese> tribaldata: did not se it on lspci:-(
[20:04] <Nekiruhs> fever: can you care to explain more about the two number problem?
[20:04] <kane77> primanox, alt+f2 only executes given command...
[20:04] <Lapinux> therese: oh, i cannot read that site ;)
[20:04] <tribaldata> therese: when you did the ifconfig you did ot see anything that would be your wifi card ?
[20:04] <mnemonic_> evening everyone...
[20:05] <Lapinux> hi
[20:05] <tubetopbaby> howdy mnemonic!!
[20:05] <mnemonic_> talking about wifi?
[20:05] <fever> Nekiruhs: say i have 2 numbers 4 and 3
[20:05] <psyferre> hey folks, has anyone setup ejabberd and jwchat or knows anything about http binding in apache?  I'm trying to get my installation setup and having a bit of trouble.  If anyone could help point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
[20:05] <Onyx> Anyone?
[20:06] <fever> then every possible outcome would be 0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 1.0 1.1 etc.....
[20:06] <therese> tribaldata: i got listed two items
[20:06] <tubetopbaby> not me...I am trying to get Sun JRE tied into ubuntu 7.10.  I installed with synaptic, but terminal is still pointing to /etc/alternatives/java....
[20:06] <LOGAN> started watching a DVD in live mode (on a system with 1 DVD drive)
[20:06] <primanox> wow.... cdcontrol is VERY simplistic... almost primative!
[20:06] <tribaldata> which are ?
[20:06] <eightballnine> i need some help
[20:06] <eightballnine> also...
[20:06] <Pici> tubetopbaby: use `sudo update-alternatives --config java` to point to the correct version you want
[20:07] <primanox> Ok... does anyone know of a better program to allow for parallel burning of CD's? You know, making copies using more than 1 burner?
[20:07] <tubetopbaby> thanks.
[20:07] <x3roconf> k3b
[20:07] <therese> lapinux it does not say what kind of card it is no:-(
[20:07] <x3roconf> or use cdburning wizard /menu)
[20:08] <tribaldata> therese: what are the device listed ?
[20:08] <choudesh> eightballnine, just ask your question. ;-)
[20:08] <eightballnine> i have problems connecting to my wireless network at home
[20:08] <choudesh> eightballnine, explain your issue
[20:08] <therese> tribaldata et0 and lo
[20:08] <Peeco> ikonia: you were right!
[20:08] <primanox> Ok... does anyone know of a better program to allow for parallel burning of CD's? You know, making copies using more than 1 burner?
[20:08] <tubetopbaby> how did you know that...I googled sun jre and ubuntu...wow!!!
[20:08] <eightballnine> connected without problems with 7.04 and with 7.10. but i changed my router (temporarily) to linksys
[20:09] <tribaldata> therese: ok try this iwlist eth0 scan
[20:09] <Anubyss> please, how can I fix sound on my new ubunto install, I can't hear sound?
[20:09] <tubetopbaby> wow...linux has changed a lot in the last 10 years....LOL....that was the last time I used it on a daily basis... :)
[20:09] <eightballnine> and now i cant connect. ive tried network manager, wicd, configuring wpa_supplicant and nothing!
[20:09] <choudesh> eightballnine, PM please
[20:09] <eightballnine> ok
[20:09] <Onyx> Nobody here uses CA certificates?
[20:10] <x3roconf> no
[20:10] <choudesh> Anubyss, Did you install PulseAudio?
[20:10] <therese> tribaldata interface does not support scanning
[20:10] <tribaldata> therese: ok definitly not your wireless card
[20:10] <tribaldata> therese: do you know which tyoe of card you have ./
[20:11] <primanox> is there a freeware program comparable to nero for ubuntu?
[20:11] <therese> tribaldata have no idea... gor it on christmas and removed vista
[20:11] <Pici> !burning | primanox
[20:11] <ubotu> primanox: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[20:11] <tubetopbaby> do i still set the Java_home seperate or does the alternatives take care of that too?
[20:11] <Pici> tubetopbaby: alternatives should take care of that.
[20:12] <tribaldata> therese: is this a laptop ? if yes which brand model
[20:12] <tubetopbaby> thanks Pici....
[20:12] <jony_kalavera> hi has anyone installed spe ide on gutsy
[20:12] <sid_> hey. anyone have a guide or something howto get dvi to hdmi tv-out? won't work.
[20:12] <jony_kalavera> how can i force wxpython version to 2.6
[20:12] <x3roconf> use -f
[20:13] <therese> tribaldata yes a laptop satellite L40-14y
[20:13] <bikini_girl> i want to find a directory how to find a directory on shell ? I used to use locate but that seems not to be working anymore !!
[20:13] <tribaldata> a laptop satellite L40-14y
[20:13] <Tilllinux> hm... the update manager didn't do anything for 3 days by now... were there really no updates in this time?
[20:13] <primanox> there is no application called !burning
[20:13] <Aztec007> my soundcard stopped working after I installed a couple of apps on synaptic, is there a way to reverse the changes?
[20:13] <x3roconf> use updatedb
[20:14] <x3roconf> locate uses db
[20:14] <os2mac> ok this is intresting if I use /usr/bin/xtightvncviewer "computername" I can connect to my OSX machine.. but if I try to use the GUI for the same program I get errors trying to connect... any ideas?
[20:14] <Aztec007> x3roconf: updatedb?
[20:14] <x3roconf> yes
[20:14] <Vorbote> jony_kalavera: You may want to try my ppa,.. I'll pass the address privately.
[20:14] <Aztec007> ok
[20:14] <x3roconf> first run updatedb then locate lol
[20:14] <tribaldata> therese: is that a german made laptop ?
[20:15] <x3roconf> if locate can't find lol
[20:15] <jony_kalavera> Vorbote: send it
[20:15] <therese> tribaldata. its norwegian... I found a usermanual here in english if that can help http://support.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/userman-en-20070719163316.zip
[20:16] <Lapinux> therese: i cant seem to find anything on that laptop, toshiba.com doesnt even show it in the archived laptop models
[20:16] <tribaldata> http://support.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/userman-en-20070719163316.zip
[20:16] <tribaldata> doh sorry peoples
[20:16] <therese> lapinux. I guess its new here in norway. they got it in stores in oktober and i got it on christmas
[20:16] <kyleBAKED> if i have the *-dev package, do I still need the original package installed?
[20:17] <Regel> kyleBAKED, yes
[20:17] <Aztec007> what does "updatedb " do?
[20:17] <therese> lapinux as I can see all L40 are almost the same
[20:17] <Regel> Aztec007, updates database, so you can use 'locate' to find files
[20:17] <pike_> Aztec007: updates the locate database
[20:18] <Aztec007> Oh ok
[20:18] <therese> lapinux: heres a english usermanual if that helps http://support.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/userman-en-20070719163316.zip
[20:18] <Lapinux> ok
[20:18] <^root^> i can't do a ssh localhost now that i ahev installed ssh server as well,, i get Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer, the same error occurs if i ssh from a remote system
[20:18] <Aztec007> Regel: if I run it do I leave it running until its done? because I stopped thinking it froze
, it just takes a lot of time if you have a big hard drive
[20:19] <Nekiruhs> Anyone have any advice on Ubuntu on  Dell Vostro 1400?
, pray
[20:19] <Bruno> blow it up
[20:19] <Torrent> I'm using dual monitor. When i try to open firefox on the 2nd monitor, it says it's already running and I need to kill the process
[20:19] <Aztec007> Regel: oh ok, I have a 250G
[20:19] <Aztec007> I'll re run it
[20:19] <Aztec007> thanks
[20:19] <Nekiruhs> Regel:Is it that bad?
[20:19] <tribaldata> therese: dl the manual at 2k will take a moment
[20:19] <Lapinux> therese: i believe its a intel pro, dont know what model it is though
[20:20] <fromap> I apologize, if this Q been asked many times in this channel, but where can I get an iso image of ubuntu (CD or DVD anything)
[20:20] <^root^> i have one more question aside from that ssh one, is there a way i cna have my SE USB Data cable driver on Ubuntu as well?
[20:20] <Nekiruhs> fromap: ubuntu.com
[20:20] <Lapinux> therese: try the lspci in console again and check for an intel pro entry
[20:20] <tribaldata> Lapinux: if it's a intel pro shoudl have been discovered on initial setup
[20:20] <tribaldata> ?
[20:20] <therese> tribaldata: http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=106341 will this help??
[20:20] <Regel> Nekiruhs, probably not, but many are having difficulties with laptops
[20:20] <mellowd> lo all
[20:20] <goldenratio> does anyone know where i can get the broadcom bcmwl5.sys driver and the .inf file? any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:20] <goldenratio> does anyone know where i can get the broadcom bcmwl5.sys driver and the .inf file? any help would be greatly appreciated
, try liveCD on it, then u'll see
[20:20] <goldenratio> oops sorry
[20:20] <jimcooncat> trying to run hp-toolbox, but  PyQt not installed. Any hints? I can't find the way
[20:20] <Torrent> Nekiruhs: Dell laptops are pretty linux friendly
[20:21] <Lapinux> tribaldata: all they have listed right here http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/wlan/?page=downloads
[20:21] <calamari> goldenratio: broadcom website doesn't have it?
[20:21] <Nekiruhs> Regel: I'll see, i've heard some reports on this model ranging from "Just forget it" to "10 minutes to perfection". I'm not sure which to go with. lol
[20:21] <therese> lapinux... where can I paste the whole lspci??
[20:21] <ler0y> 1200 people.. jesus
, well if some1 has got it to work, i dont see why you would have difficulties either
[20:22] <quamaretto> #wowwiki
[20:22] <quamaretto> >_<
[20:22] <ler0y> Does anyone know is ubuntu is open source ?
, use the pastebin
[20:22] <Regel> ler0y, stop trolling
[20:22] <Pici> ler0y: Yes, it is.
[20:22] <ruz322> ler0y: yes
[20:23] <ler0y> Regel: What ?
[20:23]  * quamaretto will try /join #wowwiki next.
[20:23] <Regel> well of course it's open source
[20:23] <Lapinux> therese: use pasbin
[20:23] <Regel> it's linux
[20:23] <ler0y> Regel: your a fuckin genius buddy
[20:23] <Pici> !language | ler0y
[20:23] <ubotu> ler0y: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:23] <ler0y> sorry i had no idea
[20:23] <therese> lapinux tryed that but i get on that site    /home/pastebin/public_html/../posts/ needs to be a writable dir to use file storage engine
[20:23] <Regel> :P
[20:24] <Regel> i dont think there's a linux distro that isnt open source
[20:24] <Regel> coz the kernel is published under GPL 2
[20:24] <Nekiruhs> Regel: Linspire?
[20:24] <Regel> oh, right
[20:24] <Regel> that one
[20:24] <goldenratio> well its difficult
[20:24] <Lapinux> therese: use this site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[20:24] <Codeboi> Redhat Enterprise - Uses open source, but is not open to the non-paying public
[20:24] <ruz322> Regel: isn't mac based off of free bsd? it's not linux, but close
[20:24] <goldenratio> i just thought someone would know where i could get the driver
[20:24] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:25] <Aztec007> my sound card stopped working, someone told me to run updatedb and it still doesn't work, what can I do next?
[20:25] <Lapinux> tribaldata: these are the cards in that model laptop Wireless LAN driver Atheros and Realtek
[20:25] <therese> lapinux http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49870/
[20:26] <Vorbote> ruz322: the idea is really part of the Orange Book. FreeBSD has its implementation and SELinux (from the no such agency) can do it in Linux.
[20:26] <Regel> Nekiruhs, there's a linspire-based opensource distro "Freespire" =)
[20:26] <Nostahl> what do i do to get all the plugins for totem
[20:27] <x3roconf> ler0y: kernel.org will be closed soon because Linus ripped everything from Minix
[20:27] <Nostahl> just popped 50 first dates in and it cant play it etc
[20:27] <Pici> !dvd > Nostahl (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:27] <ler0y> x3roconf: hmm that sux
[20:27] <ruz322> Codeboi: redhat isn't closed source though, you can get the installer and rpms to use it if you want, hence centos, the only thing you pay for is support
[20:27] <ompaul> !offtopic
[20:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:28] <therese> lapinux: maby this will help you... one searching for xp drivers
[20:28] <therese> lapinux http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=101017
[20:28] <Codeboi> Ahhh, thanks ruz322
[20:29] <Regel> I just spent 3 hours trying to get my Atheros 5006 EG wireless working in ubuntu
[20:29] <Regel> madwifi didnt work
[20:29] <Nostahl> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop and it not typing very well. is there a way i can fix without reinstalling
[20:29] <Regel> but neither did ndiswrapper
[20:29] <therese> lapinux seems like rtl8187??
[20:29] <Nostahl> its not registering key punchess i think
[20:29] <pike_> Nostahl: what do you mean by not very well?
[20:29] <N3kiruhs> How would I find out exactly what WiFi card I have? I'm in Win
[20:29] <aaran> Hi erm im having a little trouble with my display
[20:29] <Gnea> N3kiruhs: is it builtin?
[20:30] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, probably check with the manufacturer, that should give you a general direction especially if it's from dell or hp
[20:30] <Nostahl> it feels like im typing too fast and it misses key's unless i type very very slow
, isnt there some kind of device control list/panel in win?
[20:30] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, or check deviced manager
[20:30] <N3kiruhs> Regel: I'll check
[20:31] <Lapinux> therese: thats what it seems according to that site
[20:31] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, device manager would be your best bet, right click my computer, properties, hardware, and then the device manager button
[20:31] <juluss> bonsoir a tous !
[20:31] <therese> lapinux: did we get more wiser now??:-)
[20:31] <x3roconf> !fre
[20:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:31] <Myrtti> !fr | juluss
[20:31] <ubotu> juluss: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
, i think it's called 'Hardware Profile'
[20:31] <plamo> I'm having some trouble with my monitor setup, I can't move programs from one to the next.
[20:32] <aaran> Well if someone can help im learning ubuntu on an old pc and it has a GeForce4 Ti 4200 graphics card ubuntu does not properly pick it up and forces me to stay in 640x480 is there linux drivers for this card that i can use?
[20:32] <Myrtti> bonsoir juluss
[20:32] <N3kiruhs> All it says is Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card.
[20:32] <Lapinux> therese: not sure :)
[20:32] <predaeus> Nostahl, are you experiencing any other slowdowns? Check System Monitor to see if CPU usage is at 100%
[20:32] <Lapinux> tribaldata: are you still around here
[20:32] <ruz322> aaran, can you post your xorg.conf file?
[20:32] <Dr_willis> plamo,  what video card?
[20:32] <plamo> ATI
, sry it's Device Manager
[20:32] <aaran> where will i find that?
[20:32] <Nostahl> itisnt at 100 but it bouces up to50 is
[20:32] <juluss> ho, it's an english chan ... so, i just bought a lenovo N200 and ... no sound ! can you help me ?
, http://screenshots.leeindy.com/DeviceManager/device_manager.gif
[20:33] <therese> lapinux if you see that last post they gor it working on xp
[20:33] <juluss> Salut Myrtti
[20:33] <ruz322> aaran, /etc/X11/xorg.conf post it to a pastebin and give me a link
[20:33] <Dr_willis> plamo,  sorry i got no experance with those. May want to check the forums.   or someone else Might be able to help
[20:33] <Regel> N3kiruhs, http://www.sabine.com/Newsletters/News-images/W2K-Device-Manager.jpg
[20:33] <pike_> juluss: you looking for the french chan?
[20:33] <Lapinux> therese: yep
[20:33] <Bruno> @Juluss have you tired downloading the latest alsa dirvers
[20:33] <pike_> !sound | juluss
[20:33] <ubotu> juluss: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:33] <plamo> okay, thanks willis
[20:34] <juluss> ok uboto i will see here, thank you
[20:34] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, thats your card then, a Dell Wireless 1390 card
[20:34] <juluss> ubotu sorry
[20:34] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[20:34] <fever> how do i make a loop which runs thought all possible outcomes ?
[20:34] <aaran> where should i past it? probably not a good idea to paste it directly into here
[20:34] <predaeus> Nostahl, hm, probably check "dmesg" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" for entries that give hint about keyboard problems/drivers.
[20:34] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[20:34] <predaeus> Nostahl, else I've no idea. Keep asking around.
[20:34] <juluss> Bruno, no, i'm on a live CD. I thinks i will return the computer to dealer
[20:34] <ruz322> N3kiruhs,  thats a tutorial on how to get it working
[20:35] <nickname> you all suck dick. i fucking hate linux, windows is better definitely. dont even fucking think of trying to hack my ip 69.143.32.39 either, i totally put up a firewall since im on Mac OS X.
[20:35] <x3roconf> ur gay
[20:35] <ruz322> aaran, http://pastebin.ca/
[20:35] <NetLarIrvine> If i burn the iso for xubuntu, it should boot from that CD right??
[20:35] <LjL> !language | x3roconf
[20:35] <ubotu> x3roconf: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:35] <Dr_willis> fever,  you may want to check out that 'advanced bash scripting guide' it has examples of that and about anything else you want to do.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> NetLarIrvine,  it should. :) check the cd.. if you got a single large .iso file.. You did it wrong.
[20:36] <pike_> NetLarIrvine: assuming youre comp (bios) is set to boot cd before your hd
[20:36] <N3kiruhs> Thanks! That should work. DLing iso now.
[20:36] <fever> dr_willis .... http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/ ???
[20:36] <Dr_willis> fever,  its also in the repos.. and at tldp.org :)
[20:36] <NetLarIrvine> Why is a single iso file not right?
[20:36] <Dr_willis> !find abs
[20:36] <ubotu> Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)
[20:37] <Dr_willis> NetLarIrvine,  because its a cd IMAGE.. you need to burn it as an image..
[20:37] <ruz322> N3kiruhs, no problem
[20:37] <Dr_willis> NetLarIrvine,  'burn at once' for windows burns cd images very nicely. and its free.
[20:37] <therese> lapinux Any new Ideas?
[20:37] <NetLarIrvine> I am doing it from a Mac
[20:38] <Lapinux> therese: type lsusb in console and put output on pastebin for me
[20:38] <NetLarIrvine> so on the mac , if i burn what i downloaded to a CD that will not work?
[20:38] <ruz322> aaran, you getting it?
[20:39] <therese> lapinux here you are sir! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49871/
[20:39] <loucas> is any program on ubuntu to record tv programs and audio ?
[20:39] <aaran> ruz322 http://pastebin.ca/835331
[20:39] <NetLarIrvine> That would not be a bootable CD?
[20:39] <Anubyss>  Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi XtremeMusic
[20:39] <Anubyss> not working can anyone help me please
[20:39] <Dr_willis> loucas,  i use mythtv to do that
[20:39] <brobostigon> loucas:mythtv
[20:40] <Lapinux> therese: there it is 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp
[20:40] <Anubyss> ubunto detects the card but no sound
[20:40] <cliebow_> NetLarIrvine, sounds like you have a coipyof the image..
[20:40] <loucas> thanx a lot
[20:40] <choudesh> Anubyss, did you install PulseAudio + Alsa?
[20:40] <ruz322> aaran, you only have that resolution declard in your xorg.conf
[20:40] <therese> lapinux I hope that made us one step forward:-)
[20:40] <NetLarIrvine> It is the iso file
[20:40] <Anubyss> this is a new install of 7.10
[20:41] <ruz322> aaran, have you modified this file yourself at all or is the one that was made when you installed ubuntu?
[20:41] <aaran> i saw that and tried to edit it but it said i do not have permision
[20:41] <Dr_willis> NetLarIrvine,  i would say google for a Mac ISO burning program.
[20:41] <NetLarIrvine> k
[20:41] <Burlynn> how do i go about restarting samba?
[20:41] <Lapinux> therese: yes, im checking into something more
[20:41] <Dr_willis> NetLarIrvine,   if you burn the cd and its got a single.iso in it. You burnt it incorrectly
[20:41] <Flannel> NetLarIrvine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-c870784c85d881b96b985bb6f47720add24f13d0
[20:41] <Anubyss> no I don't think I did
[20:41] <aaran> Could not save the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[20:41] <ruz322> aaran, has it ever worked before?
[20:41] <therese> lapinux thank you very much:-)
[20:42] <portablejim> could anyone help me figure out why fluxbox us not working? I can being up the Workspaces switcher, but not any programs.
[20:42] <NetLarIrvine> thanks Flannel
[20:42] <cliebow_> NeT_DeMoN_, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389
[20:42] <aaran> i originaly installed on my brothers pc which worked fine then i switched out the hdd to this backup pc
[20:42] <choudesh> Anubyss, Open terminal - type `pulse` and hit tab
[20:42] <ruz322> aaran, i mean has it ever worked with any other resolution, to be honest, it looks like something has editted that file, its working, but strangely formatted
[20:42] <choudesh> Anubyss, see if it returns pulseaudio-something
[20:42] <wwwwwww> est ce qu'il y a quelqu'un qui parle francais ?
[20:42] <cliebow_> oops
[20:42] <ruz322> aaran, ok, what im gonn have you do is back up your old config file, then re-generate a new one, hopefully getting it going
[20:43] <Anubyss> yes it makes a sound
[20:43] <aaran> ok thanks
[20:43] <cliebow_> NetLarIrvine, http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389
[20:43] <ruz322> aaran, open a terminal and execute the following: "cd /etc/X11/
[20:43] <kyleBAKED> is there a way to run a list of commands from a text file?
[20:43] <ruz322> aaran, "sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak"
[20:43] <choudesh> Anubyss, ok - go to System->Preferences->Sounds
[20:43] <ruz322> aaran, sudo dexconf
[20:43] <Torrent> kyleBAKED, you can make it executable, by chmox +x <filename>
[20:43] <x3roconf> kyleBAKED: use bash script?
[20:43] <choudesh> Anubyss, click on the first Test button
[20:43] <cliebow_> kyleBAKED, make the text file executable
[20:44] <ruz322> aaran, let me konw when you do all of that
[20:44] <kyleBAKED> ok ty
[20:44] <portablejim> kyleBAKED: make the text file executable then run it in terminal
[20:44] <aaran> done
[20:44] <TigranG> Hey, how can I make it that when I have a pidgin already running, and I click on a launcher for it, instead of trying to launch a new one, it focuses the one already running?
[20:45] <aaran> cannot create /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[20:45] <x3roconf> root?
[20:45] <NetLarIrvine> Flannel, so when I burn the image this way, it makes it a bootable CD ?
[20:45] <TigranG> use sudo
[20:45] <ruz322> aaran, did you do the dexconf as root?
[20:45] <Anubyss> choudesh, I get cannot open resource for writing
[20:45] <aaran> no
[20:45] <ruz322> aaran, do "sudo dexconf"
[20:46] <choudesh> Anubyss, ok.
[20:46] <aaran> ok done
[20:46] <ruz322> aaran, now pastebin your xorg.conf file again and give me the link
[20:46] <Vorbote> kyleBAKED: may suggest you install the abs-guide (it is in the multiverse).
[20:46] <choudesh> Anubyss, sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:46] <Flannel> NetLarIrvine: yes
[20:46] <NetLarIrvine> thanks for your help
[20:46] <choudesh> Anubyss, then, open terminal, type `vlc [mediafile]' where mediafile is a movie and paste the output from terminal into pastebin
[20:47] <aaran> http://pastebin.ca/835350
[20:47] <x3roconf> hmm someone spammed win.exe via tftp (!)
[20:48] <ruz322> aaran, it successfully re-wrote your config file, you now have resolutions 1024X768, 800X600, and 640X480
[20:48] <brobostigon> x3roconf: thats not very nice, someone doing that to you,
[20:48] <ruz322> aaran, now you have to restart the x server to see t he changes, do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, but note, its going to log you out of the system and then you will have to log back in
[20:49] <aaran> ok thanks so much for the help
[20:49] <x3roconf> brobostigon: i know
[20:49] <ruz322> aaran, no problem at all
[20:49] <brobostigon> x3roconf: what do you mean anyway??
[20:49] <aaran> seya
[20:49] <x3roconf> i'm running a honeypot
[20:49] <x3roconf> lol
[20:49] <brobostigon> ok
[20:50] <brobostigon> x3roconf: someone might have nmap/ed you.
[20:50] <ader10> I want to remove all text before 16G in a line and all text after /, is it possible with sed?
[20:50] <x3roconf> brobostigon: NO
[20:50] <kyleBAKED> whenever i run apt-get update it stalls at 99% [waiting for headers], is this supposed to take longer than 10 minutes?
[20:50] <{Nathan}> kyleBAKED: Supposed to? No.
[20:50] <choudesh> ader10, yes
[20:50] <{Nathan}> Why it's doing that? No idea.
[20:50] <x3roconf> brobostigon: no they are exploiting 'fake' windows services like dcom
[20:51] <brobostigon> ok.
[20:51] <Aztec007> having problems with soundcard, it was working before I installed some packages on synaptic and now it doesnt work anymore, is there a way for me to reverse the changes I did?
[20:51] <ader10> choudesh: Could you tell me how please?
[20:51] <ttt--> are there any chess game that allow you to undo a move?
[20:51] <choudesh> ader10, regular expressions - search google
[20:51] <ttt--> games*
[20:51] <choudesh> Aztec007, did you install pulseaudio?
[20:51] <x3roconf> whole exploitation process is simulated so they can't infect my server
[20:51] <t94xr> ttt--, chessmaster 4000
[20:51] <Aztec007> choudesh: I think so
[20:52] <Flannel> Aztec007: have you tried removing said packages?
[20:52] <choudesh> Aztec007, weee. ;-)
[20:52] <choudesh> !pulseaudio
[20:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulseaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:52] <alemones> Hi guys, I need help restoring 7.10 resolution
[20:52] <choudesh> hmm - need that to be added
[20:52] <ttt--> t94xr: thanks
[20:52] <Aztec007> Flannel, choudesh: ok, I'll try that
[20:52] <therese> lapinux Still searching??
[20:52] <ttt--> is that in the package manager?
[20:53] <rhalff> I have: Europe/Amsterdam in /etc/timezone, yet when I do ntpdate <any_time_server> My date will be set to Dec 13 13:00 !? :)
[20:53] <choudesh> Aztec007, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570436 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601602
[20:53] <alemones>  Hi guys, I need help restoring 7.10 resolution
[20:53] <rhalff> 13 Dec 13:01:36 ntpdate[14902]: step time server 194.171.167.130 offset 1327754.129317 sec
[20:54] <Onyx> how can I compare the contents of two folders to find out if they're the same?
[20:54] <Regel> alemones, what have you done with it?
[20:54] <ttt--> t94xr: i cant find it in the package manager :/
[20:55] <Regel> Onyx, does diff work on folders?
[20:55] <t94xr> its a windows game :\ lol
[20:55] <Dr_willis> you could diff, the ls outputs. :)
[20:55] <Onyx> Regel: I dunno... how do I use it?  diff x y?
[20:55] <rhalff> Onyx: diff -R I think, doing the exact same thing now lol
[20:55] <t94xr> i believe it uses opengl so you coudl find a linux port
[20:55] <Regel> Onyx, like diff Desktop/ OtherStuff/
[20:55] <Onyx> Nice
[20:55] <Dr_willis> !find chess
[20:56] <ubotu> Found: 3dchess, brutalchess, dreamchess, dreamchess-data, emacs-chess (and 11 others)
[20:56] <Onyx> rhalff: Thanks dude
[20:56] <Dr_willis> !info dreamchess
[20:56] <ubotu> dreamchess: a 3D chess game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 119 kB, installed size 344 kB
[20:56] <ttt--> i wonder how difficult it is to modify gnuchess to make moves undo-able
[20:56] <Lapinux> therese: yes, it seams alot of ppl are in the same boat
[20:56] <Dr_willis> ttt--,  im suprised the option isent in there.. it may be  :)
[20:56] <Areli1> Many people recommended me to install a virtual machine containing both Ubuntu and Windows for experiments and windows programs/games. How do i do this?
[20:56] <Onyx> "Only in ./DoD-PKI: INSTALL README.txt" so this means that the two folders are the same, except for that file, yeah?
[20:56] <Lapinux> therese: ndiswrapper with windows driver might be the way to go
[20:57] <therese> lapinux ok... so it will be the hard way??
[20:57] <Dr_willis> Areli1,  pick one os.. install the OS.. then isntall vmware-server , then isntall the other OS to the  vmware session
[20:57] <Dr_willis> Areli1,  you can run linux in vmware on windows.. or windows on vmware, under linux. or use virtual box instead of vmware.
[20:57] <brobostigon> or qemu
[20:58] <Dr_willis> dosbox :) Not... heh
[20:58] <Areli1> Dr_willis: I am on Ubuntu and would like an Ubuntu and a windows virtualized .how?
[20:58] <therese> lapinux do you have the time to help me on with it??:-)
[20:58] <Vorbote> Areli1:
[20:58] <rhalff> Onyx:  did you add -r ? it's diff -r not diff -R
[20:58] <Dr_willis> Areli1,  install vmware-server, then install the other os's in a vmware virtual machine.. or use virtrualbox.
[20:58] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[20:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[20:58] <Onyx> rhalff: Yeah, figured that when it told me -R wasn't an option :P
[20:59] <Lord_Illidan> hi, does anyone use abiword around here?
[20:59] <barnes> http://www.linuxhack3r.com anyone see what i am trying to accomplish? the different color modes, click the ubuntu and fedora or suse ones, and now all i need is to know what distro starts with a red wallpaper, or such.
[20:59] <Vorbote> eli1: as Dr_willis told you can bocan
[20:59] <Eyemean> hi has anyone noticed that in thunar u cant reate archives?
[20:59] <Dr_willis> Is virtualbox in the repos?
[20:59] <Eyemean> or is there a setting i should change
[20:59]  * Vorbote apologizes, new keyboard.
[20:59] <alemones>  Hi guys, I need help restoring 7.10 resolution
[20:59] <barnes> Dr_willis: i believe so
[20:59] <Dr_willis> !find virtual
[20:59] <ubotu> Found: gij, gij-4.2, linux-headers-virtual, linux-image-virtual, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-virtual (and 22 others)
[20:59] <therese> lapinux why does it come up in the usb list??? wierd
[20:59] <Regel> alemones, what do you mean?
[20:59] <Areli1> !virtualizers
[21:00] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[21:00] <Dr_willis> !find virtualbox
[21:00] <ubotu> Found: virtualbox-ose, virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-server, virtualbox-ose-source
[21:00] <romeomajk> !jahluv Pullman, Philip - [Dark Materials 03] - The Amber Spyglass (v1).rar
[21:00] <barnes> http://www.linuxhack3r.com anyone see what i am trying to accomplish? the different color modes, click the ubuntu and fedora or suse ones, and now all i need is to know what distro starts with a red wallpaper, or such.
[21:00] <Lapinux> therese: not sure
[21:00] <therese> lapinux hmmm. do you think its possible to fix it?
[21:00] <BehiiMehii> Anyone care to help me install irssi? I have NO idea what I'm doing :/
[21:00] <rhalff> Onyx:  meld is nice if you have to actually move changes back and forth between those folders.
[21:00] <Vorbote> romeomajk: wrong network... Can get your rear bitten here....
[21:00] <alemones> Regel: What happenned is , I installed Ubuntu 7.10, I was not happy with the font quality and started playing with resolution, lost the 'right setting' and now I have a lower resolution. Thanks!
[21:01] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  sudo apt-get install irssi   THEN go to irssi.org and read their guides. :)
[21:01] <Lord_Illidan> Does anyone have a stretching problem with Abiword's File Menu?
[21:01] <BehiiMehii> Many thanks Dr_willis
 system -> settings -> screen resolution?
 or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:01] <Areli1> Dr_willis: Should i install vmware-server or vmware-player?
[21:01] <alemones> 1280 x 800 disappeared from there ... :(
[21:02] <Vorbote> alemones: Administration->Screen and Graphics (if gutsy and up)
[21:02] <Lapinux> therese: im not real familiar with wireless networking in linux, i had to deal with it a while back with my laptop but thats about it
[21:02] <alemones> Regel: I will try reconfigure and let you know, I think I tried it already, but let's see. VORBOTE thanks!
[21:03] <Lapinux> therese: now that you know you have a realtek 8187 wireless card you may be able to get more help though....
[21:03] <Lord_Illidan> solved my problem
[21:04] <therese> lapinux.. you helped me a lot... If you are unsure of what to do next I will try further... you had be very nice helping so far
[21:04] <Pir8> would anyone happen to know how to get a list of running applications based on the title bar name, instead of PID or executable?
[21:04] <Pir8> is that even possible to do ?
[21:04] <Dr_willis> Areli1,  virtualbox is proberly easier to install - since its in the repos.
[21:04] <Dr_willis> !virtualbox | Areli1
[21:04] <ubotu> Areli1: VirtualBox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://www.virtualbox.org/ for !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper - Setup details at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[21:05] <Lapinux> therese: err its a realtek 8197
[21:05] <Areli1> !free
[21:05] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[21:05] <rhalff> !profit
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about profit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:05] <rhalff> hmz
[21:06] <nickrud> Dr_willis, vmware is also, it's in deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[21:06] <therese> wireless help please Lapinux had helped me found out that my built in wireless is a realtek 8197, and its listed at lsusb. Anyone have an Idea how to make it work??
[21:06] <alemones> Regel: I did reconfigure, should I restart? I can't see 1280 x 800 in the options
[21:06] <nicolah> what does happen If I use badblock and badblock recognizes as a badblock a block with written data ?
[21:06] <Vorbote> rhalff: profit comes from services contracts, Still not flying as far as I know...
[21:07] <Regel> alemones, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart should do the trick
[21:09] <Onyx> fuck... can everyone access help.ubuntu.com after logging in?
[21:09] <^root^> when i install ssh-server it asks me for old ssh pass phrase, what's thata nd wht should i enter?
[21:09] <Onyx> for some reason it's not working for me.
[21:09] <aLeSD_> hi all
[21:09] <x3roconf> !language | Onyx
[21:09] <ubotu> Onyx: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:09] <Onyx> x3roconf: Sorry 'bout that.
[21:10] <x3roconf> np
[21:10] <Onyx> hello there aLeSD_
[21:10] <kristoffer> it was a bot=D
[21:10] <^root^> !language | Only
[21:10] <ubotu> Only: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:10] <aLeSD_> someone could tell me the name of the applicaion t set the cube in the aspect of compiz?
[21:10] <Dr_willis> !ccsm | aLeSD_
[21:10] <ubotu> aLeSD_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:10] <Onyx> kristoffer: either way :P
[21:10] <rhalff> Vorbote: yeah something like that, is ubuntu itself trying to make any profit ? would be hard I can imagine.
[21:10] <Temp32> I can?t get my PPPoE connection running. It worked yesterday, but after a reboot it wouldnßt work anymore. I don?t even get an IP from the DHCP. If I use dhclient it tells me that it doesnßt receive one. If I choose a static IP like 192.168.1.7 I can ping the modem. I used pppoeconf to configure everything and I apparently receive DNS IPs and a lokal IP, but if I try to ping a DNS it tells me "ping: sendmsg: not allowed" or something like that.
[21:10] <Temp32> plog gives me an error, too. What should I do?
[21:10] <aLeSD_> thanks all
[21:11] <^root^> !ssh > ^root^
[21:11] <Areli1> Anyone know some good games for 'buntu?
[21:11] <Regel> Arelil, tremulous
[21:11] <Regel> !ssh > Regel
[21:11] <gigmark-roc> what catagory ->Areli1
[21:11] <brobostigon> Areli1: packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/games
[21:11] <plamo> Arelil, wine.
[21:12] <Regel> kernel.org
[21:12] <Regel> jk
[21:12] <bmoney> sup ppls
[21:12] <Onyx> wuddup bmoney
[21:12] <logaas_> !en > bmoney
[21:13] <Vorbote> rhalff: that's off topic, would you care to join #ubunt-offtopíc? (or ·linux-es if you write spanish..) ;-)
[21:13] <bmoney> !en
[21:13] <slazer> hi
[21:13] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:13] <gigmark-roc> Anyone know how to render screen savers or tools that would work
[21:13] <gigmark-roc> ??
[21:13] <x3roconf> !games
[21:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:13] <slazer> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[21:13] <nickrud> Temp32, can you configure the modem directly, such as going to 192.168.1.1 or something?
[21:13] <rhalff> Vorbote: oh nope.
[21:13] <Blinkiz> I have two disks encrypted with cryptsetup (luks on dm-crypt). I have a script to start both of them at the same time. When I run this script, luks ask me two times for a password. Does it exist a way to "mount" both at the same time with the same password?
[21:13] <therese> lapinux trying you again... you are the expert does this give you more help http://briancantin.blogspot.com/2007/11/hacking-rtl8187b-on-linux.html
[21:13] <bmoney> logaas: your syntax was incorrect
[21:13] <slazer> do you guys know whats the problem about configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[21:13] <slazer>  ?
[21:13] <nickrud> Temp32, with your browser that is
[21:13] <NetLarIrvine> when i booted from the CD drive, it started to install xubuntu, but now it seems stuck.  and the keyboard is flashing
[21:14] <g2g591> slazer, install build-essential, through synaptic, or sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:14] <NetLarIrvine> Do I need to start over?
[21:14] <logaas_> !en > logaas_
[21:14] <sofiankrt> hello? anyone here?
[21:14] <slazer> it is already installed
[21:14] <bmoney> !en | logaas_
[21:14] <ubotu> logaas_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:14] <x3roconf> slazer: uneed g++
[21:14] <nickrud> NetLarIrvine, did you run the disk check on the startup menu?
[21:14] <sofiankrt> I'm in deep trouble
[21:14] <x3roconf> apt-get install g++
[21:14] <sofiankrt> I need someone to help me
[21:14] <sofiankrt> urgent
[21:14] <NetLarIrvine> It went right to the CD Rom drive nickrub
[21:14] <slazer> g++ is already the newest version.
[21:15] <g2g591> slazer, x3roconf, g++ is installed with build-essential
[21:15] <x3roconf> ok
[21:15] <sofiankrt> someone help me, please!
[21:15] <nickrud> slazer, if you're getting that error, you probably didn't get build-essential installed properly
[21:15] <sofiankrt> I've screwed up my computer
[21:15] <NetLarIrvine> sorry nickrud
[21:15] <slazer> ok Ill reinstall that
[21:15] <sofiankrt> am I connected to this thing?
[21:15] <g2g591> sofiankrt, what do you need help with, just tell us
[21:15] <nickrud> !ask | sofiankrt
[21:15] <ubotu> sofiankrt: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:15] <Lapinux> therese: its kind of confusing because everyone keeps stating its a 8187 but then everyones lsusb says its a 8197
[21:16] <carrierBag> Hi. I am on 6.06 LTS and its php installation doesnt has the bundled Version of the GD Graphics Library... so, whats the best thing I could do? Do I really have to recompile php --with-gd? Don't I mess up the system (synapsis, packages, ...) by that? Any advice would be much appreciated.
[21:16] <sofiankrt> I've deleted all my C files!
[21:16] <bmoney> nickrud, your from central us?
[21:16] <sofiankrt> you know, the windows drive
[21:16] <kristoffer> I have some problems opening a Cracked CS 1,6 in Ubuntu using wine, it opens but i cant write anything in the keycode thing..any ideas?
[21:16] <sofiankrt> It had a weird name, sd something
[21:16] <Myrtti> carrierBag: you've installed the modules?
[21:16] <sofiankrt> so know I can't open windows!
[21:16] <sofiankrt> how do I restore deleted files?
[21:16] <BigTo3> sofiankrt, great, now you can use linux :D
[21:17] <nickrud> bmoney, was for a bit, but I'm on the west coast now
[21:17] <carrierBag> Myrtti: yes with apt-get (php5-gd)
[21:17] <g2g591> sofiankrt: did you choose use entire hard drive when you installed ubuntu?
[21:17] <therese> lapinux... I see.... hope someone else have a solution.....
[21:17] <sofiankrt> I know! But my mom will kill me!
[21:17] <BigTo3> haha
[21:17] <g2g591> sofiankrt: did you choose use entire hard drive when you installed ubuntu?
[21:17] <sofiankrt> my parents are old fashioned
[21:17] <g2g591> sofiankrt: did you choose use entire hard drive when you installed ubuntu?
[21:17] <sofiankrt> I'm not sure what I did
[21:17] <slazer> Ive reinstalled build-essential, but still have the same problem
[21:17] <sofiankrt> I mad a bunch of partitions
[21:17] <carrierBag> Myrtti: but thats not the bundled gd version for which I have to recompile php from scratch I guess... :|
[21:17] <sofiankrt> they were all named sd with numbers
[21:17]  * logaas_ feels sorry for sofiankrt 
[21:17] <sofiankrt> so I wasn't sure which is which
[21:18] <sofiankrt> I thought one of them was useless
[21:18] <amainland> hello is there a way to change teh default behavior of ls to behave like ls -ll ?
[21:18] <sofiankrt> so I deleted all the files
[21:18] <happy_broccoli> HELP: configure:2229: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:18] <Kanedacorp> Hi all, Linux noobie here. I'm wanting to dual boot my exisitining XP. I made a seperate partition for Ubuntu to go into and installed from the live CD. everything appeared to work ok except I don't get a Grub boot screen, it just goes straight back to windows
[21:18] <sofiankrt> now I can't open windows!
[21:18] <g2g591> sofiankrt: run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in a terminal and post the output
[21:18] <slazer> btw I get the problem in KDEVELOP 3.5.0
[21:18] <robdig> amainland: put this in your ~/.bashrc        alias ls='ls -ll'
[21:18] <nickrud> amainland,  try alias ll='sl -l' , if you like it , add to .bashrc
[21:18] <sofiankrt> Now I'm using mandriva because I haven't figured out yet how to connect to the internet with ubuntu
[21:18] <choudesh> Kanedacorp, try hitting ESCAPE durning boot, after POST and before Windows Chainloading
[21:19] <amainland> robdig: thanks
[21:19] <amainland> nickrud: thanks
[21:19] <nickrud> amainland, well, check the typo but the idea is the same :)
[21:19] <sofiankrt> I'll restart the computer and see, I'll come back in a few minutes!
[21:19] <g2g591> sofiankrt: run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in a terminal and post the output
[21:20] <g2g591> sofiankrt: run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in a terminal and post the output, you don't need to restart
[21:20] <Kanedacorp> should that bring up the grub menu?
[21:20] <sofiankrt> I can do it with mandriva?
[21:20] <brobostigon> g2g591: i think he knows now.
[21:20] <g2g591> sofiankrt: yes, fdisk is one of the basic tools
[21:20] <Kanedacorp> unfortunately I'm connected here by using the Live CD again so I'll have to reboot to try anything
[21:21] <edugonch> Hello, how I can download a package with apt-get but not install, I need to download sqlite and All its dependence to install in other computer
[21:21] <dr01dy> any issues with compiz after the recent ubuntu updates
[21:21] <sofiankrt> it says "bash: sudo: command not found
[21:21] <dr01dy> I lost my minamize and close maxamize bar
[21:22] <dr01dy> on everything in gnome
[21:22] <brobostigon> !aptoncd | edugonch
[21:22] <ubotu> edugonch: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[21:22] <g2g591> sofiankrt: ok, then run su and put in the root password then run fdisk -l /dev/sda
[21:22] <alemones> Regel: It worked! Thanks a lot, I see you are offline so if somebody knows him say thx from alemones
[21:22] <edugonch> :O thanks I'll try it ;)
[21:22] <chazco> edugonch - I think you can run apt-get -d install <whatever>... check the man pages
[21:22] <slazer> I would like to redefine my problem """configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[21:22] <slazer> """
[21:23] <x3roconf> try /usr/bin/sudo maybe u don't have $PATH
[21:23] <TheEagle> what is the best language to learn first off, i have no other programming experience - and how should I go about learning it
[21:23] <slazer> It is related only to KDEVELOP
[21:23] <TheEagle> i mean programming language
[21:23] <sofiankrt> here's what it says
[21:23] <Pir8> is there a way to add GRUB to the MBR of a CF card ?
[21:23] <sofiankrt> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[21:23] <slazer> g++ works fine..
[21:23] <edugonch> Thanks ;)
[21:23] <ifireball> TheEagle: python maybe a food place to start
[21:23] <LimCore> I daily find several serious bugs in apps from Ubuntu (or Ubuntu itself). Does ubuntu aims to be collection of buggy software or what
[21:24] <g2g591> sofiankrt: is there something about /dev/sda(some number) then ntfs?
[21:24] <TheEagle> ifireball: everyone has said that, so I think that's what i'll do
[21:24] <choudesh> LimCore, example?
[21:24] <TheEagle> ifireball: any specific way to go about it?
[21:24] <sofiankrt> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[21:24] <sofiankrt> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[21:24] <sofiankrt> Disk identifier: 0x91189118
[21:24] <sofiankrt>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda2            2551        9729    57665317+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda5            2551        3158     4883728+  83  Linux
[21:24] <LimCore> choudesh: today:  krandrtray fails to change refresh rate sometimes
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda6            6140        6970     6674976    7  HPFS/NTFS
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda7            8064        9729    13382113+  83  Linux
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda8            6971        7118     1188778+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda9            7119        7437     2562336   83  Linux
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda10           7438        8063     5028313+  83  Linux
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda11           3159        3766     4883728+  83  Linux
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda12           3767        4923     9293571   83  Linux
[21:24] <dgjones> LimCore, do your report the bugs on Launchpad?
[21:24] <sofiankrt> /dev/sda13           4924        6139     9767488+  83  Linux
[21:24] <ifireball> TheEagle: got to the website and start reading the tutorials
[21:24] <TheEagle> I had a look at diveintopython on my ubuntu disto and it said for EXPERIENCED programmers
[21:24] <sofiankrt> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[21:24] <x3roconf> floodz
[21:25] <TheEagle> thanks ifireball
[21:25] <grody> sofiankrt, pastebin plz
[21:25] <dgjones> !paste > sofiankrt
[21:25] <sofiankrt> yeah
[21:25] <g2g591> sofiankrt:good news, your windows partation is intact
[21:25] <sofiankrt> sda1
[21:25] <NetLarIrvine> I am getting Buffer I/O error on device sr0, what is that?
[21:25] <LimCore> FLOODS
[21:25] <LimCore> head for the liferafts man
[21:25] <TheEagle> !paste | sofiankrt
[21:25] <ubotu> sofiankrt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:25] <NetLarIrvine> When I try in install from a CD
[21:25] <choudesh> LimCore, that is more specific to KDE than Ubuntu
[21:25] <TheEagle> sorry dgjones, i didn't see you'd already alerted him
[21:25] <g2g591> sofiankrt:good news, your windows partation is intact, now we just need to add an entery in grub so  you can boot into it
[21:25] <LimCore> choudesh: where to report this problem?
[21:25] <dgjones> TheEagle, no probs
[21:25] <gigmark-roc> Hello!! anyone know of a channel for embedded ubuntu
[21:25] <gigmark-roc> ??
[21:26] <choudesh> LimCore, KDE bugzilla
[21:26] <choudesh> LimCore, bugs.kde.org
[21:26] <sofiankrt> so, how do we do that?
[21:26] <choudesh> LimCore, but I don't believe it was a bug
[21:26] <sofiankrt> thank god
[21:26] <g2g591> sofiankrt: one moment please
[21:26] <LimCore> choudesh: sometimes it stops changing vid mode at all. not a bug?
[21:27] <choudesh> LimCore, native or within a VM?
[21:27] <LimCore> choudesh: hm? in my kde
[21:27] <g2g591> sofiankrt: ok, run nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:27] <choudesh> LimCore, did you install kubuntu/ubuntu to the hard drive or is it within a virtual machine?
[21:28] <LimCore> choudesh: normal ubuntu 7.10
[21:28] <gumpish> wow. dm-crypt isn't exactly easy to use huh
[21:28] <sofiankrt> says bash: nano: command not found
[21:28] <alemones> Hi Guys, I have a problem that can't see Real Player content in Firefox,, any clue how to solve it? THX!
[21:29] <choudesh> LimCore, ok - which version of KDE?
[21:29] <x3roconf> use alternate cd if want use encrypted partitions?
[21:29] <g2g591> sofiankrt: ok, use gedit or kate, kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:29] <brobostigon> alemones: do you have a mac, my mac does that
[21:29] <r-wolf> I've installed compiz-fusion plugins-main, now when I switch Visual Effects to Extra, all window captions disappear, how to fix this?
[21:30] <gumpish> what's a caption?
[21:30] <x3roconf> sofiankrt: type echo $PATH
[21:30] <Vorbote> r-wolf: I'd suggest you install the compiz version in gutsy-proposed
[21:30] <x3roconf> waht it says
[21:30] <x3roconf> ?
[21:31] <brobostigon> a caption is similer to a subtitle
[21:31] <alemones> brobostigon: No, I have a Sony vaio
[21:31] <gumpish> yeah, so, windows don't have subtitiles...
[21:31] <sofiankrt> says  /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin/:/usr/games:/usr/lib/qt3//bin:/home/sofiankrt/bin:/usr/lib/qt3//bin
[21:31] <nickrud> they have titles, that might be thought of as a caption. r-wolf try installing emerald
[21:31] <alemones> Hi Guys, I have a problem that can't see Real Player content in Firefox,, any clue how to solve it? THX!
[21:32] <brobostigon> windows dont have caotions as far as i nknow either
[21:32] <yanger> this isn't really an ubuntu question, but i'm unsure where to ask... i have a XENYX 1204 Audio Mixer and it has a USB connector and 2 XLR (L & R) balanced outputs... do you guys know if linux will id the usb feed or would it be more logical/economical to use the 2 XLR -> 1/4" stereo adapter and just use my PC's sound card's line in to feed?
[21:32] <g2g591> sofiankrt: you dont need to care about your path,
[21:32] <r-wolf> nickrud: I'll try it now
[21:32] <g2g591> sofiankrt: your path is fine
[21:32] <sofiankrt> what does that mean?
[21:32] <sofiankrt> what's a path?
[21:33] <annonymouse> does any one know why all of my avi divx xvid wmv etc all play in grey ?
[21:33] <brobostigon> a path s /home/username
[21:33] <yanger> annonymouse: what program you using to play?
[21:33] <annonymouse> vlc and totem
[21:33] <sofiankrt> so, what should I do now?
[21:33] <alemones> Hi Guys, I have a problem that can't see Real Player content in Firefox,, any clue how to solve it? THX!
[21:33] <g2g591> sofiankrt: in a terminal run su, then run vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:33] <Dr_willis> !real
[21:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:34] <x3roconf> yes ur path is fine
[21:34] <annonymouse> they used to work fine till this morning
[21:34] <g2g591> sofiankrt: press i , and scroll down below where it says ##END of debian automatic kernal list
[21:34] <sofiankrt> it says bash: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[21:35] <Vorbote> sofiankrt: "sudo -i" will give you a root terminal.
[21:35] <brobostigon> !sudo | sofiankrt
[21:35] <ubotu> sofiankrt: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[21:35] <g2g591> sofiankrt: it would if you were using ubuntu, instead of mandrivia atm
[21:36] <haritos> Greetings. I'm trying to make my Speedtouch modem work by using a USB cable and not an ethernet one, but for some reason there is no /proc/bus/usb/devices. Actually, usb/ is empty even tho I can see the device using lsusb
[21:36] <g2g591> sofiankrt: run su in a terminal, then in that same terminal run vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:36] <alemones> Hi Guys, I have a problem that can't see Real Player content in Firefox,, any clue how to solve it? THX!
[21:36]  * RadZak is a n00b
[21:36] <brobostigon> !patience | alemones
[21:36] <ubotu> alemones: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:37] <haritos> g2g591: I'm always wondering why giving a specialised editor like vim to random people. Most people won't know how to use it.
[21:37] <sofiankrt> su, then password, then the vim command?
[21:37] <pike_> !pony | alemones
[21:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:37] <x3roconf> sofiankrt: yes
[21:37] <g2g591> sofiankrt: holdon wait, which did you install last, ubuntu or mandrivia, if its mandrivia, continue
[21:37] <sofiankrt> I installed mandriva first, then ubuntu
[21:38] <pike_> alemones: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138634 real quick lemme know if you have any questions
[21:38] <sofiankrt> should I run the vim command?
[21:38] <g2g591> sofiankrt: ok, then you need to mount your ubuntu partation in mandrivia, or just reboot into ubuntu
[21:38] <^root^> sofiankrt, i would say do a gedit
[21:38] <sofiankrt> gedit?
[21:38] <sofiankrt> Linux IS confusing!
[21:39] <pike_> sofiankrt: any text editor its you choice which
[21:39] <g2g591> sofiankrt: just reboot into ubuntu , then we can edit the right file to add windows to your boot menu
[21:39] <sofiankrt> but I don't have an internet connection in ubuntu?
[21:39] <^root^> sofiankrt, you seem new, so a GUI editor like gedit would be better
[21:39] <Onyx> how can I tell what version of xorg I'm on ... what's the gutsy default?
[21:39] <sofiankrt> yeah, very new
[21:39] <alemones> ubotu: I know, I appreciate that and I think you guys do a terrific voluntary job! I'm starting to love Ubuntu; This chat is a bit messy so sorry if I post my Q several times,, I have done it before.. ;)
[21:40] <g2g591> sofiankrt: just reboot into ubuntu , then we can edit the right file to add windows to your boot menu
[21:40] <alemones> pike: what is !pony ?
[21:40] <haritos> Greetings. I'm trying to make my Speedtouch modem work by using a USB cable and not an ethernet one, but for some reason there is no /proc/bus/usb/devices. Actually, usb/ is empty even tho I can see the device using lsusb
[21:40] <BehiiMehii> Hey Dr_willis, you still there?
[21:40] <nickrud> alemones, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[21:40] <x3roconf> sofiankrt: use nano or gedit vim is hackers only lol
[21:40] <pike_> Onyx: apt-cache madison xserver-xorg will tell you
[21:40] <alemones> pike_: Thanks! I will check that one
[21:40] <g2g591> sofiankrt: no internet in ubuntu, this makes it tricky
[21:40] <sofiankrt> umm, actually windows IS in my boot menu, it just says that a file (can't remember which) is not found
[21:41] <sofiankrt> and doesn't start
[21:41] <sofiankrt> I have a laptop
[21:41] <sofiankrt> with a wireless card
[21:41] <pike_> sofiankrt: seems like youve had some bad luck with your network card and such. normally it is very smooth
[21:41]  * nickrud hangs his head
[21:41] <Onyx> w00t thanks pike_
[21:42] <sofiankrt> maybe I should configure a wireless connection in ubuntu first, then fix this up?
[21:42] <pike_> sofiankrt: yep
[21:42] <sofiankrt> so, how do I do that?
[21:42] <kristoffer> is it possible to get some help opening a cracked CS 1,6 in ubuntu? opening it trough wine but it only opens halfway
[21:42] <nickrud> kristoffer, no
[21:42] <pike_> sofiankrt: what wifi card do you have?
[21:42] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[21:42] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[21:43] <sofiankrt> I'm not really sure...
[21:43] <sofiankrt> Broadcom something
[21:43] <Webu> Excuse me, i've installed a program with make + make install, how can i uninstall it (i need to compile it again with different settings)?
[21:43] <annonymouse> can some one help me im very confused
[21:43] <g2g591> webu: did you keep the directory you compiled it from?
[21:43] <nickrud> Webu, in the same dir you ran make, run sudo make uninstall
[21:43] <psusi> Webu: just rebuild it
[21:43] <Webu> g2g591, yes i did.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> Webu,  often the apps have a 'make uninstall' option. OR you could just recompile, make install again and hope it copys over all the old foles.
[21:44] <Vorbote> !ask ! annonymouse
[21:44] <sofiankrt> just got it
[21:44] <Vorbote> !ask !annonymouse
[21:44] <nickrud> just running the make is probably safer, one less chance for error in the make file
[21:44] <sofiankrt> my card is...
[21:44] <RadZak> !ask sound
[21:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask sound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:44] <^root^> kristoffer, i am running CS1.6 on wine
[21:44] <BehiiMehii> Dr_willis:  would you mind helping me installing irssi, please? I've been reading the guides, but none of it makes any sense :/
[21:44] <Vorbote> !ask |annonymouse
[21:44] <ubotu> annonymouse: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:44] <annonymouse> my vlc and totem player shows any format as grey last night it was fine
[21:44] <Webu> Okey thanks all for the help :)
[21:45]  * Vorbote apologizes, new kbd
[21:45] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  'sudo apt-get install irssi'   and its installed...
[21:45] <pike_> !broadcom | sofiankrt
[21:45] <ubotu> sofiankrt: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[21:45] <pike_> sofiankrt: broadcom is problematic
[21:45] <BehiiMehii> Then how do I use it?o.O
[21:45] <sofiankrt> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[21:46] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  run the command irssi, and read the users guide at irssi.org
[21:46] <nickrud> sofiankrt, can you hook up the laptop wired temporarily?
[21:46] <TigranG> Does anyone know the dbus command (if there is) to show/focus an application/window?
[21:46] <Vorbote> annonymouse: My first take would be to delete your ~/.gstreamer-0.10 directory, it may be damaged.
[21:46] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  it has no X interface. :) its a command line chat program
[21:46] <annonymouse> how do i do that?
[21:46] <sofiankrt> ???
[21:46] <x3roconf> BehiiMehii u can try xchat
[21:46] <x3roconf> if u want GUI
[21:47] <haritos> Anyone using a USB Speedtouch modem here?
[21:47] <sofiankrt> how come all messages to me are in red?
[21:47] <BREED> Do you know what I love ?? :D
[21:47] <Vorbote> annonymouse: open a terminal window type "cd" and then "rm -r .gstreamer-0.10" without the quotes.
[21:47] <nickrud> sofiankrt, so you don't miss them
[21:47] <brobostigon> haritos: no.sorry
[21:47] <sofiankrt> how do I do that?
[21:47] <sofiankrt> I mean
[21:47] <nickrud> sofiankrt, if you use one of our nicks in your line, it'll be red here
[21:47] <sofiankrt> make my messages red to you
[21:47] <Dr_willis> sofiankrt,  thats a feature of the irc client.
[21:47] <BehiiMehii> x3roconf: irssi isn't the problem, the problem is that I don't know how to work Linux at all, so I don't even know how to open the program I've installed
[21:47] <Onyx> BehiiMehii: Why do you want to use irssi?  It's a great console IRC client (best IMO), but X-Chat is much more user friendly.
[21:47] <sofiankrt> nickrud: is this in red?
[21:47] <annonymouse> done
[21:47] <x3roconf> ok
[21:48] <nickrud> sofiankrt, yes
[21:48] <Onyx> BehiiMehii: You can open irssi by typing irssi in the console.
[21:48] <sofiankrt> nickrud, cool. so what do I do now?
[21:48] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  open up a terminal, type irssi, hit enter.. You proberly should read some linux starter guides if thats total voodoo to you.
[21:48] <nickrud> sofiankrt, and a fast way to fill out the nick is to type in just a few letters, then hit the tab key
[21:48] <Onyx> BehiiMehii: I'd really recommend X-Chat though...
[21:48] <haritos> Greetings. I'm trying to make my Speedtouch modem work by using a USB cable and not an ethernet one, but for some reason there is no /proc/bus/usb/devices. Actually, usb/ is empty even tho I can see the device using lsusb
[21:48] <sofiankrt> nickrud: nice
[21:48] <l21logan99> i need a copy of /etc/fstab can anyone give it to me?
[21:48] <Onyx> l21logan99: ?
[21:49] <nickrud> sofiankrt, open a terminal , and type su - and give it your root password
[21:49] <Dr_willis> BehiiMehii,  you may want to start with the books at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training -
[21:49] <brobostigon> pidgin is my  irc client, and does much  more besides.
[21:49] <Onyx> l21logan99: Your should be in /etc/
[21:49] <Onyx> yours*
[21:49] <sofiankrt> nickrud: done
[21:49] <RadZak> !HAL
[21:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:49] <BehiiMehii> Onyx: I'll keep that in mind.  Would I use sudo apt-get install x-chat?
[21:49] <l21logan99> Onyx: I need another copy
[21:49] <annonymouse> nope still in grey
[21:49] <annonymouse> :(
[21:49] <f00f> /etc/fstab will be different for different systems.
[21:49] <nickrud> sofiankrt, now type    fdisk -l    and copy and paste the output to the website http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . Give me the url, so I can see it
[21:49] <TigranG> Does anyone know the dbus command (if there is) to show/focus an application/window?
[21:49] <l21logan99> i just need a copy
[21:49] <l21logan99> its for editing purposes
[21:50] <Vorbote> haritos: you¿ll have to mount the usbfs filesystem by hand, ]Ubuntu dropped support some releases ago. And add it to /etc/fstab as well.
[21:50] <Onyx> BehiiMehii: It'd be easier to go into the Add/Remove Applications and install it there.
[21:50] <nickrud> sofiankrt, that will tell us about your partitions, so we can find your windows one
[21:50] <l21logan99> can anyone send it to me?
[21:50] <goldins> Hello
[21:50] <goldins> is there a way to tell ubuntu to use a print server?
[21:50] <Webu> BehiiMehii, if i'm not totally wrong, X-Chat is already installed in Ubuntu Desktop :)
[21:50] <l21logan99> anyone?
[21:50] <f00f> l21logan99, http://www.humbug.org.au/talks/fstab/fstab.html
[21:50] <nickrud> Webu, totally wrong ;(
[21:50] <f00f> they have an example copy on that site
[21:51] <Webu> Ouch, it used to be?
[21:51] <nickrud> wow, I do like that madison command for apt-cache. Learn something every day
[21:51] <invalidsyntax> i need help lol
[21:51] <l21logan99> f00f:i cant find the file there
[21:52] <invalidsyntax> I installed windows after ubuntu and I tried all the tutorials to rstore grub but  when i try it says not found
[21:52] <Areli1> !pony
[21:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:52] <l21logan99> !fstab
[21:52] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[21:52] <invalidsyntax> i have one drive with two partions
[21:52] <tatters> I need an easy to configure torrent server for my LAN preferably with a web ui
[21:53] <brobostigon> invalidsyntax: the better way wouldhave been windows first, linux/ubuntu second
[21:53] <invalidsyntax> to late
[21:53] <sofiankrt> nickrud: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49881/
[21:53] <TheEagle> is perl better than python as a language?
[21:54] <annonymouse> any one have any other suggestions as to black and white video output in multiple formats?
[21:54] <Vorbote> TheEagle: that's debatable, may I point you to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <TheEagle> indeed you may Vorbote!
[21:54] <pike_> TheEagle: yeah we can debate that in -offtopic id like to take a few jabs a perl
[21:54] <nickrud> sofiankrt, looking
[21:55] <Areli1> !pony
[21:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:55] <x3roconf> !w
[21:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <oDesk> how i move the content of one directory to another direcoty ? content could be files and folders
[21:56] <brobostigon> Areli1: whats pony??
[21:56] <x3roconf> use mv
[21:56] <oDesk> mv dir/*.* ../   this only moves the files.. i want to move folders too
[21:56] <TheEagle> he's playing with the bot brobostigon
[21:56] <x3roconf> man mv
[21:56] <TheEagle> he's doing it in offtopic too
[21:56] <nickrud> sofiankrt, ok, we now know where your windows is at, either sda1 or sda6 (almost certainly 1)  Next , we need to see what's mounted. again in the terminal, type    mount -l    and paste that
[21:57] <l21logan99> !modprobe
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:57] <g2g591> oDesk: run mv foldername newfoldername
[21:57] <brobostigon> theeagle: he must be very sad then.
[21:57] <RadZak> !HAL
[21:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:57] <threethirty> does anyone know why openarena is telling me that I have an invalid game folder?
[21:57] <oDesk> g2g591: the new folder is already exist with contents into it
[21:57] <TheEagle> indeed!
[21:58] <x3roconf> !ruby
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ruby - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <logaas_> !irb
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <sofiankrt> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49884/
[21:58] <choudesh> !abuse
[21:58] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:58] <d4rkmonkey> threethirty, it would appear that your game folder is invalid.
[21:58] <choudesh> !botabuse
[21:58] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:58] <oDesk> !mv
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <g2g591> oDesk: ok so run mv foldername newfoldername/foldername to move the folder to a subfolder of the newfolder
[21:58] <TheEagle> !ubotu > x3roconf                                             (ONLY PLAY WITH UBOTU IN PRIVATE MESSAGES)
[21:59] <x3roconf> ok lol
[21:59] <threethirty> d4rkmonkey: but what can I do to fix that
[21:59] <Areli1> Guys, all the games on my Ubuntu, and compiz-fusion, look very pixelly. I have an ATI Radeon 9600, and am using the fglrx drivers. How can i turn antialiasing on?
[21:59] <Aztec007> hey guys, how big should a /var/log partition be? does that directory fill up quickly?
[21:59] <tatters> I got an ubuntu server and want a centralised way to store all downloads ,ftp , http torrents etc ,without having to map each app and each network drive on each machine , any suggestions to what might do the job?
[21:59] <oDesk> g2g591: i don't want to write command for every folder.. could i move all folders at once ?
[21:59] <cafuego> Aztec007: only if you don't rotate and compress the logs.
[21:59] <nickrud> sofiankrt, ok. it's mounted. Now for the moment of truth, to see what's up:  type    ls /dev/hd   . Do you see all the windows files?
[21:59] <oDesk> g2g591: like i moved the files using   /*.*
[21:59] <d4rkmonkey> threethirty, no idea, I would try a reinstall if you haven't already, but I'm not exactly sure. You just asked the reason that it was telling you that so I gave you the reason
[21:59] <ifireball> Aztec007: neah its cycled quite rigorously
[22:00] <Aztec007> cafuego: so 10 gigs would be more than enough?
[22:00] <sofiankrt> nickrud: I think we've got a problem... ls: cannot access /dev/hd: No such file or directory
[22:00] <ifireball> Aztec007: the whole /var shoulb be about 1.5G unless you intend to store _big_ mysql databases there ot LOTS of mail...
[22:00] <n1ckservbroke> is there a way to change the ubuntu boot screen?
[22:00] <RadZak> gotcha >Eagle
[22:00] <RadZak> msg set prvt
[22:01] <nickrud> sofiankrt, lol, I made a silly mistake, its     ls /media/hd
[22:01] <Aztec007> ifireball: oh ok,
[22:01] <ifireball> typing went to hell. I stop.
[22:01] <cafuego> Aztec007: I'd consider that way too much; I personally do't bother with separate partitions for logging anymore.
[22:01] <sofiankrt> nickrud: lol
[22:01] <nickrud> sofiankrt, sorry about the scare
[22:02] <g2g591> oDesk: ok then lets use some bash scripting, "for x in folder1 folder2 folder3 ; mv $x foldername/$x"
[22:02] <Aztec007> cafuego: yeah you're right
[22:02] <sofiankrt> nickrud: it gives nothing...
[22:02] <g2g591> oDesk:then type done, oh and still in a terminal
[22:02] <Aztec007> Thanks for all the help guys
[22:02] <sofiankrt> nickrud: just gets me started on a new line
[22:02] <nonfake> hi!
[22:02] <cafuego> Aztec007: and things like /var/lib/mysql and /var/www are symlinks to sensible places (on raid) on my machines :-)
[22:02] <nickrud> sofiankrt, now try    ls /media/hd3
[22:03] <Toriku1> if anyone wants to starta podcas with me, send me a message
[22:04] <g2g591> oDesk:did you get that?
[22:04] <zloog> Hi. How can I tell if my computer will run 64bit ubuntu?
[22:04] <sofiankrt> nickrud: gives "RECYCLER/  System Volume Information/" in blue
[22:04] <TigranG> Is there a dbus, python, or anyy way to focus an application?
[22:04] <nickrud> sofiankrt, that must be your drive D then.
[22:04] <oDesk> g2g591: i did  mv folder1 folder2 dist
[22:04] <nonfake> hi all! i have an issue installing UBUNTU... after booting the install cd nothing happens... anyone???
[22:04] <brobostigon> zloog: you will need a x86 64bit cpu
[22:04] <nickrud> sofiankrt,   a couple more steps, just to be sure
[22:04] <nickrud> sofiankrt, type     umount /dev/sda1
[22:05] <^root^> nonfake, do you see a menuyu with options like start or install ubuntu, in safe graphics etc?
[22:05] <g2g591> oDesk:did you get the rest of the command?
[22:05] <pike_> zloog: it depends if your processor is a 64 bit
[22:05] <nonfake> ^root^: yep
[22:05] <oDesk> g2g591: no not really!
[22:05] <zloog> brobostigon: ok, so its just dependant on CPU then?
[22:05] <sofiankrt> nickrud: gives nothing
[22:05] <zloog> Thanks
[22:05] <nonfake> but when i choose install apears a progress bar and then nothing
[22:05] <^root^> nonfake, which option do you select and what happens?
[22:05] <brobostigon> zloog: i think so,but look it up and check,
[22:05] <nickrud> sofiankrt, good, that means it worked.   Next type      mount /dev/sda1  -t ntfs /mnt
[22:06] <lukasz> Hey People
[22:06] <lukasz> where do i place in menu.lst gfxmenu /boot/grub/message.suse
[22:06] <^root^> nonfake, you have to wait for the live cd to start... it shows a progress bar, and then the ubuntu splash screen, and finally the live session.
[22:06] <g2g591> oDesk:ok, to move some folders to be subfolders of another, run for x in folder1 folder2 folder3; do mv $x foldertoputinto/$x; done
[22:06] <nickrud> lukas_, probably need to ask on a suse channel
[22:06] <PriceChild> I have 2Gb of ram in this laptop. and a 2.2Gb swap partition. however top only shows 800Mb of ram and a 1Gb swap. Why isn't everything recognised and how can I fix this?
[22:06] <sofiankrt> nickrud: gives nothing
[22:07] <^root^> nonfake, how much have you wait? hhaven't you seen any error?
[22:07] <nickrud> sofiankrt, ok, that means it worked successfully also.   Now,    ls /mnt
[22:07] <sofiankrt> nickrud: nothing
[22:07] <^root^> PriceChild, swap=2.g? that sure is way too much
[22:07] <nickrud> sofiankrt, windows is gone
[22:07] <sofiankrt> WHAT>
[22:08] <sofiankrt> sorry but
[22:08] <sofiankrt> wow!
[22:08] <PriceChild> ^root^, Its a laptop so i want more swap than ram to ensure i can hibernate
[22:08] <sofiankrt> I'm dead!
[22:08] <^root^> PriceChild, swap = 2 OR 1.5*RAM, and 700Mb is dieal...
[22:08] <nickrud> sofiankrt, there may be ways to undelete your stuff on the windows partition, but I don't use windows much and don't know it.
[22:08] <PriceChild> ^root^, Its a laptop so i want more swap than ram to ensure i can hibernate
[22:08] <g2g591> sofiankrt: windows is still there, it showed up in sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:08] <nickrud> sofiankrt, join #windows  and ask there for help.  g2g591 the partition is empty
[22:08] <sofiankrt> I deleted it on ubuntu, can't I restore files deleted in ubuntu?
[22:09] <g2g591> sofiankrt: oh
[22:09] <lukasz> Im trying to add a picture to boot
[22:09] <^root^> PriceChild, allocating more swap witll slow down the rest of system ddue to paging, won't it?
[22:09] <PriceChild> ^root^, no
[22:09] <lukasz> I dunno where to place gfxmenu code
[22:09] <lukasz> I know its in menu.lst but still no clue
[22:09] <oDesk> g2g591: oh got it, thanks
[22:09] <sofiankrt> g2g591: nothing shows up in the trash, I just selected everything and deleted
[22:09] <nickrud> sofiankrt, there's a program ntfsundelete , I've never used it, and you'd need to have internet access to install it in ubuntu. Maybe mandriva has that tool also
[22:10] <^root^> PriceChild, Thought so... about your problem, that strange...
[22:10] <PriceChild> ^root^, aha... dmesg tells me 800 mb lowmem availiable, no highmem
[22:10] <sofiankrt> nickrud: should I download it on Mandriva?
[22:10] <Vorbote> sofiankrt: install gart and check if it can see the lost windows partition. As long as you have written anything on it, it may be recoverable.
[22:10] <^root^> PriceChild, what about top?
[22:10] <Vorbote> sofiankrt: gpart, sorry
[22:11] <sofiankrt> Vorbote: gpart on Mandriva?
[22:11] <nickrud> sofiankrt, yes. But again, I've never used it so you'd need to get someone else to help you with that part.
[22:11] <^root^> PriceChild, also try free
[22:11] <PriceChild> ^root^, just 800mb.... hmm googling says i'm using a lowmem kernel... 386
[22:11] <Vorbote> Yup, it is a cli application.
[22:11] <sofiankrt> nickrud: so basically once you delete anything on Ubuntu, there's no easy way of getting it back?
[22:11] <Vorbote> do read the man page, it is looong
[22:11] <kanedacorp> I've just booted the Live CD on my laptop and the screen is split into 2 horizontally, I can't see the bottom half of the screen on either of the 2
[22:11] <^root^> PriceChild, no idea really. thats really strange case, let me know when you get it solved!
[22:12] <kanedacorp> so I won't even see replies until they reach half way up the screen ;)
[22:12] <nickrud> sofiankrt, try this:   ls -a /mnt
[22:12] <r-wolf> 7.10 studio, sometimes a message appears after login, "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon", how do I fix it?
[22:12] <jgoo> I am curious why 'rar -e thefile.rar' doesn't extract files, but just spits out the help tezt
[22:12] <jgoo> *text
[22:13] <sofiankrt> nickrud: "./  ../  .Trash-sofiankrt/" in blue
[22:13] <jgoo> how many commands does it want? I want to unextract a rar file. rar. minus e. the file. done?
[22:13] <nickrud> sofiankrt,   ls /mnt/.Trash-sofiankrt
[22:13] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  you may wan tto try unrar, and use -x
[22:13] <Dr_willis> unrar -x whatever.rar
[22:14] <r-wolf> failed to connect to socket ....: connection refused
[22:14] <jgoo> hrm. hrm. why does rar have a -e? ok, thanks
[22:14] <lukasz> where do I place in menu.lst? gfxmenu /boot/grub/message.suse
[22:14] <tyranos> hi guys i need vlc to encode audio to mp3 which it doesnt , i recompiled ffmpeg from source but somehow i missed something , can someone help me plz .
[22:14] <lukasz> can someone pastbin me the code?
[22:14] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  i dont use rar :) i dont even have it installed.
[22:14] <sofiankrt> nickrud: I can see my files!
[22:14] <lukasz> The Ubuntu 7.10 one
[22:14] <jgoo> damnit. I installed rar from add/remove. I specifically says for working with rar files. but unrar isn't installed. I am confused. so 'rar' doesn't unrar?
[22:14] <PriceChild> I have 2Gb of ram in this laptop. and a 2.2Gb swap partition. however top only shows 896Mb of ram and a 1Gb swap. dmesg informs me there is 896mb lowmem available but no highmem. Googling tells me i'm not using a highmem enabled kernel but this is ubuntu's -generic kernel? Why isn't everything recognised and how can I fix this?
[22:14] <jgoo> now I have to install unrar. man that sucks.
[22:15] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  try man rar, and see what its docs say.
[22:15] <lukasz> Well dinner time
[22:15] <nickrud> sofiankrt, ah, I saw where you said you had moved them to the trash. I think of that as different from deleting and when I saw you tell g2g591 you put it in the trash ..
[22:15] <NetLarIrvine> How can I run a disk check before I install Ubuntu?
[22:15] <nickrud> sofiankrt, so next:     cd /mnt/
[22:15] <Vorbote> tyranos: use soundconverter and install gstreamer0.10plugins-ugly-multiverse
[22:15] <jgoo>   e      Extract  files  to current directory. Does not create any subdirectories.
[22:15] <pike_> !fsck | NetLarIrvine
[22:15] <ubotu> NetLarIrvine: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[22:15] <Dr_willis> I dont even see a 'rar' in the package manager. :) just unrar
[22:16] <Dr_willis> jgoo,   i doubt if you wanted -e anyway
[22:16] <jgoo> Dr_willis: I installed it from... oh wait, let me load package manager and see
[22:16] <sofiankrt> nickrud: actually, I didn't move them to the trash, I selected them, pressed backspace or delete, can't remember, and they were gone! not even in the trash!
[22:16] <pike_> NetLarIrvine: well that didnt help you much did it :)
[22:16] <lukasz> well Im off to dinner :)
[22:16] <NetLarIrvine> I have nohing on the hard drive now
[22:16] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  it may be i overlooked it - apt-cache search rar - gives like 400 hits
[22:16] <NetLarIrvine> Can I check disk before installing os?
[22:17] <jgoo> "Archiver for .rar files This is the RAR archiver from Eugene Roshal. It supports multiple volume archives and damage protection. It can also create SFX-archives. There are versions which run on DOS, Windows (3.1x,95,NT), FreeBSD, BSD"
[22:17] <tyranos> vorbote i need vlc to stream files over wifi to my psp , everything works but sound if encoded in " mpeg layer 1,2or 3 "
[22:17] <BehiiMehii> Does Ubuntu have a firewall that comes with it? o.O
[22:17] <nickrud> sofiankrt, you should have been able to see them. That seems like a bug to me.  Anyway, do the change directory command I just gave you
[22:17] <jgoo> actually says it is shareware!
[22:17] <jgoo> RAR - popularity five stars
[22:17] <sofiankrt> nickrud: done
[22:17] <Dr_willis> jgoo,    heh..  its poo-ware :)
[22:17] <nickrud> sofiankrt, type   pwd   , and tell me what it says
[22:17] <sofiankrt> nickrud: so that's what cd stands for...
[22:17] <qwaz> what is the command, like cron, that executes a command at a certain time?
[22:17] <davidwinter> hi all. Is there a way I can 'restore' the contents of an ISO onto a USB hard drive so that I can then 'boot' from that ISO
[22:17] <che_frisco> Hi all. I'm about to install gutsy (i was too lazy to do it earlier) and I wanted to know if the 64 bit version supported intel chips. It currently only mentions AMD on the wiki...
[22:17] <Dr_willis> i never want to make rar's i always want to Unrar stuff these other guys just seem to HAVE to use rar for.
[22:18] <nickrud> sofiankrt, and pwd is print working directory, just wanna make sure :)
[22:18] <pike_> BehiiMehii: yes you can install firestarter which is a gui front end to iptables if ya want to use iptables firewall
[22:18] <jgoo> Dr_willis: it is in the package manager, and unrar isn't. Plus it has a -e option that appears to do nothing - I think it should be removed... :-/
[22:18] <NetLarIrvine> is there something on the install image that can check the disk?
[22:18] <Dr_willis> gotta love a split rar arhive thats an .iso thats full of .zip files. that make a executable...
[22:18] <sofiankrt> nickrud: gives /mnt
[22:18] <pike_> BehiiMehii: right now it isnt doing anything if you sudo iptables -L itll just say accept
[22:18] <r-wolf> well, rar compresses data very good, after all
[22:18] <Dr_willis> unrar is  right there in 'apt-cache search unrar'
[22:18]  * jgoo slaps Rudy_Guillan and wonders where the 'i' went
[22:19] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  or the -e option wanted the filenames to extract
[22:19] <johnficc1> so how do I get my realtek 8185l wireless card to work in ubuntu? is there a native linux driver for it?
[22:19] <Dr_willis> rar <command> -<switch 1> -<switch N> <archive> <files...>
[22:19] <phessler_> I'm running into a problem with my ubuntu 7.04 system, not enough entropy.  fluctuates between 100 and 500, causes massive slowdowns in ssh and https
[22:19] <Dr_willis> I dont even have an rar to test.
[22:19] <jgoo> Dr_willis: so an asterisk? I don't know, <> seems optional to me... should include all? right?
[22:19] <nickrud> sofiankrt, that means we're working from the right place. Next, type:   mv  .Trash-sofiankrt/*   .      <-- don't forget the dot, separated by a space. This will move the files out of the trash
[22:19] <haritos> Greetings. I have a Windows installation in sdb, and my Linux installation in sda. in my menu.lst, I have root (hd1,0) for the Windows entry, _but_ when I select it will just freeze at "Starting Up". No errors or anything, just freezing.
[22:19] <BehiiMehii> Ah, thanks pike_
[22:20] <davidwinter> i want to put an ubuntu iso onto a USB hard drive and then install/boot from that hard drive to install on another computer - any ideas on how to restore that ISO to the external hard drive?
[22:20] <PriceChild> I have 2Gb of ram in this laptop. and a 2.2Gb swap partition. however top only shows 896Mb of ram and a 1Gb swap. dmesg informs me there is 896mb lowmem available but no highmem. Googling tells me i'm not using a highmem enabled kernel but this is ubuntu's -generic kernel? Why isn't everything recognised and how can I fix this?
[22:20] <che_frisco> does gutsy 64 bit only support AMD processors, or does it work with intel core 2 duo?
[22:20] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  The program is documented fully in rar.txt which you find in /usr/share/doc/rar.  - so says the man page. :)
[22:20] <BehiiMehii> My 360's unable to connect to Xbox Live, I thought maybe this thing has something to do with it
[22:20] <phessler_> che_frisco: as long as it supports the amd64 extensions (which core 2 duo does), it'll run fine
[22:20] <pike_> PriceChild: someone said once that himem wasnt compiled in generic kernel but i didnt believe em.. it just has to be
[22:20] <NetLarIrvine> is "[ 57.764316] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 22" a hard disk problem?
[22:21] <che_frisco> phessler_: Thanks. O
[22:21] <qwaz> what is the command, like cron, that executes a command at a certain time?
[22:21] <g2g591> haritos: you gotta change your grub entry a litttle, run gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:21] <PriceChild> pike_, that's what I'm thinking :/
[22:21] <proqesi> NetLarIrvine: try fscking it and find out
[22:21] <che_frisco> phessler_: Do I need to do any configurations on it, or will it work straight away?
[22:21] <phessler_> che_frisco: it should Just Work
[22:21] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  rar e '*.rar' '*.asm'
[22:22] <haritos> g2g591: Yeah, what/
[22:22] <phessler_> intel un-borked their amd64 support with the core2 series
[22:22] <haritos> g2g591:  I changed it a little myself.
[22:22] <scguy318> qwaz: at
[22:22] <sofiankrt> nickrud: can't move anything! here's what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49893/
[22:22] <jgoo> Dr_willis: I just tried unrar - the same issue
[22:22] <qwaz> scguy318: thank you very much
[22:22] <^root^> NetLarIrvine, i don't think so, sr0 isn't normally a harddisk,
[22:22] <NetLarIrvine> You can do that from an image install disk, proqesi?
[22:22] <jgoo> Dr_willis: unrar -x lol.rar
[22:22] <jgoo> just prints the usage text
[22:22] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  DONT use the - for the first option
[22:22] <g2g591> haritos: your windows entry should look something like
[22:22] <jgoo> aah ok. weird
[22:22] <g2g591>  title Windows XP
[22:22] <nickrud> sofiankrt, doh. I mounted it read only on purpose, and forgot
[22:22] <NetLarIrvine> is sr0, the CD rom drive then?
[22:22] <g2g591>  root (hd1,0)
[22:22] <g2g591>  map (hd1) (hd0)
[22:22] <g2g591>  map (hd0) (hd1)
[22:22] <g2g591>  makeactive
[22:22] <g2g591>  chainloader +1
[22:22] <g2g591>  boot
[22:22] <Dr_willis> The things ya learn by looking at the docs. :)
[22:22] <jgoo> Dr_willis: ok, removing the - works.
[22:23] <haritos> g2g591: g2g591 What is map doing?
[22:23] <nickrud> sofiankrt, type    unmount /dev/sda1
[22:23] <che_frisco> phessler_: Thanks. I'm off to reinstall then!
[22:23] <r-wolf> I need a hint, why my Gnome login screen shows @1280x720, and after login the resolution changes to 1280x1024?
[22:23] <johnficc1> how do I check my kernel verion
[22:23] <johnficc1> ?
[22:23] <proqesi> NetLarIrvine: you mean from the livecd? yes
[22:23] <johnficc1> version
[22:23] <phessler_> johnficc1: uname -a
[22:23]  * jgoo points at googles 'lenient accept' method... missing/adding a - really shouldn't beak the command in this instance... :s
[22:23] <g2g591> haritos: making windows think your second hard drive is your first, windows doesn't like to be second
[22:23] <r-wolf> i'd like get both them equal
[22:23] <nickrud> sofiankrt, sorry, typo:   sudo umount /dev/sda1   not unmout
[22:23] <jgoo> ok it works, thanks Dr_willis
[22:23] <haritos> g2g591: I see. Thanks :")
[22:24] <Dr_willis> jgoo,  :) we just overlooked what it was telling us..   rar <command> -<switch 1> -<switch N> <archive> <files...>   the first letter is a COMMAND - not a switch :)
[22:24] <suncydu> Anyone know why I'm getting this error on Dolphin???? Do not have a full hard drive..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49894/
[22:24] <sofiankrt> nickrud: sudo command not found
[22:24] <suncydu> Anyone know why I'm getting this error on Dolphin???? Do not have a full hard drive.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49894/
[22:24] <nickrud> sofiankrt, thinking ubuntu again.
[22:24] <nickrud> sofiankrt,       umount  /dev/sda1
[22:24] <johnficc1> realtek has a driver for my card but its for the 2.6.22 kernel will that work with the 2.6.22-14 kernel that I have?
[22:25] <DefineByte> "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error". Anyone know why I get this error when trying to list the root of my Windows partition?
[22:25] <g2g591> suncydu: your permissions are messed up, run sudo chown -R janerik:janerik /home/janerik/.kde/
[22:25] <dabang> johnficc1: soundcard?
[22:25] <nickrud> sofiankrt, and if you get an error that its busy, I know ;(
[22:25] <Tilllinux> How to install a kde skin?
[22:25] <jgoo> aaah I see. I saw 'switch l' and 'switch N' and figured switches come second... you'd think the man page might just include a basic example for rar / unrar... typical usage... or maybe I am just stupid :-)
[22:25] <jgoo> anyway thanks!
[22:25] <johnficc1> dabang: wireless
[22:25] <teimu> does anyone know how to make a disc image become a device, as if it were a real disc in my drive? some may call this a virtual drive.
[22:25] <sofiankrt> nickrud:  yeah, that's what I got
[22:26] <Tilllinux> teimu: Gmountiso
[22:26] <PriceChild> pike_, ^root^, Figured out the problem.... I had left a random terminal open which was ssh'd into a different machine...
[22:26] <Tilllinux> or AcetoneISO
[22:26] <atomkarinca> teimu, or Acetoneiso2
[22:26] <qwaz> scguy318: do I need to specify which display, like a cronjob, if I want to execute a gui application...using at
[22:26] <dabang> johnficc1: if nothing else works, you can use ndiswrapper
[22:26] <nickrud> sofiankrt, cd  /      then type    umount /dev/sda1
[22:27] <LetterRip> hi all - could someone open there services list and tell me 1) which ones are shown and 2) which are active?
[22:27] <suncydu> g2g591 wow it worked Have posted this for severald weeks... and you fixed my problem at once.... what was the problem??? new to linux:-)
[22:27] <johnficc1> dabang: ndiswrapper is not working out for me
[22:27] <johnficc1> ls
[22:27] <LetterRip> I think some have disappeared from my list after I had disabled some
[22:27]  * nickrud thinks PriceChild 's experience is a perfect example for using sudo
[22:27] <dabang> johnficc1: a driver for 2.6.22 should work with ubuntu kernel
[22:27] <PriceChild> nickrud, sudo?
[22:28] <g2g591> suncydu: i think you ran sudo dolphin, that changes your permissions for your bookmarks and history to root, I've had this happen a few times myself, even though i use kdesu
[22:28] <nickrud> PriceChild, random terminal, wrong command, rm something while in a random root terminal. Been there, done that
[22:28] <sofiankrt> nickrud: gave nothing, what does mount and unmount mean, anyway?
[22:28] <johnficc1> dabang: I'm trying it now
[22:28] <PriceChild> nickrud, I'm going to have to learn to read hostnames now :)
[22:28] <suncydu> g2g591 ok. but that fixed it... thanks a lot
[22:29] <Syntux> How would I point source.list into a mounted DVD ISO image on my HDD instead of CD?
[22:29] <PriceChild> !mountiso | Syntux
[22:29] <ubotu> Syntux: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[22:29] <teimu> thanks Tilllinux!
[22:29] <qwaz> I'm seeing high memory usage...what can i use to tell what's using my RAM?
[22:29] <Dr_willis> Syntux,  you could mount it to a dir. then point it to that dir.
[22:29] <nickrud> sofiankrt, it mounts (puts into the file tree so we can read) different partitions. In this case sda1 is your C drive in windows
[22:29] <dabang> johnficc1: which chip is it?
[22:29] <PriceChild> Syn-, then just use standard deb-cdrom stuff
[22:29] <johnficc1> dabang: 8185l
[22:29] <johnficc1> L
[22:29] <sofiankrt> nickrud: that explains a lot, then... I blanked my sda1
[22:30] <Syntux> Dr_willis, it's already mounted, how to point it ?
[22:30] <g2g591> qwaz:top is a cli app for that, ksysgaurd is one for kde, not sure about gnome though
[22:30] <nickrud> sofiankrt, and no output was good.  Now type     mount /dev/sda1   -t ntfs-3g  /mnt
[22:30] <Tilllinux> so, how to install a kde theme for kde applications (like gtk for gnome?)
[22:30] <qwaz> g2g591: I have a top running, but it isn't listing anything out of the ordinary
[22:30] <suncydu> Hello you all. I posted several problems to you guys out there. And you helped me a lot of times. is there anyway to donate something to this community if there is. Because I think you guys deserve some for youre great job
[22:30] <sofiankrt> nickrud: mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'
[22:31] <Dr_willis> Tilllinux,  go ask in #kubuntu they will point ya to the right info.
[22:31] <jhonovich> cron doe not seem to be running (ran ps ax | grep cron), how can i make sure it runs?
[22:31] <nickrud> sofiankrt, argh. that's what I would use in ubuntu.  Anyone following along knows how mandriva mounts ntfs partitions read write?
[22:31] <Blissex> ubotu gd
[22:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:31] <Tilllinux> Dr_willis: well, I'm neither using kubuntu nor kde, but kde apps... So I doubt I can just easily install a kde theme for these single kde apps with gnome ;)
[22:31] <Syntux> PriceChild, it's already mounted, my question about how to point apt to use that mounted directory ?
[22:32] <Lukasz> back
[22:32] <kyleBAKED> if i remove usplash using apt, will my boot screen revert to whats in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[22:32] <nickrud> sofiankrt, a sec
[22:32] <PriceChild> Syntux, system > admin > software sources
[22:32] <PriceChild> Syntux, that'll let you add a cdrom from the 3rd tab
[22:33] <g2g591> kyleBAKED: nope, if you remove usplash, you get to see verbose output from the kernel as it boots,
[22:33] <Syntux> PriceChild, dude, that requires inserting a CD to CD device
[22:33] <johnficc1> dabang: they have this driver http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L
[22:33] <g2g591> kyleBAKED: any image defined by /boot/grub/menu.lst is just for the boot menu
[22:33] <PriceChild> Syntux, gah sorry, I'll find the syntax for sources.list then
[22:34] <Lukasz> so where do I place the mesage file code in menu.lst?
[22:34] <Rytmis> Is there a way to install Gutsy from a running Hardy install without burning a CD? My drive seems to be b0rked.
[22:34] <oDesk> g2g591: i used this command  chown user:user -R .*  then i face permission problem 403 ? how i can restore this ?
[22:34] <alex_> hi ... I can't install the flash plugin on 64 bits
[22:34] <dabang> johnficc1: just looking at it :-)
[22:34] <Tilllinux> Syntux: why just not mount it to /media/cdrom ;D
[22:34] <kyleBAKED> g2g591, oh, is there a way to have a background image and / or edit the display the verbose text?
[22:34] <Syntux> Tilllinux, because I'm already using /media/cdrom for other stuff :D
[22:35] <mhiku> how can i make my ubuntu installation like livecd or when i restart its same again, no writes from the harddisk
[22:35] <g2g591> oDesk: never chown anything to user:somehting , user is a nonexistant user,
[22:35] <PriceChild> Syntux, you do it the same as any other repository. Just use file:/ instead of http://
[22:35] <PriceChild> Syntux, please note the single slash
[22:35] <g2g591> oDesk: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusernamewhichisalsoyourgroupname .*
[22:35] <oDesk> g2g591: the user i'm using is existing one
[22:35] <Syntux> PriceChild, so if the directory path is /home/syntux/uDVD/ then in source.list I should have file:/home/syntux/uDVD/
[22:36] <g2g591> oDesk: sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusernamewhichisalsoyourgroupname .*
[22:36] <g2g591> oDesk: what directory did you run that in?
[22:36] <PriceChild> Syntux, but in full, deb file:/home/syntux/DVD/ ./
[22:36] <Avt> friends!!!! :) OK SO IS FLASH IN THE ADD PROG?
[22:36] <Avt> sorry caps
[22:36] <oDesk> g2g591: /public_html/subdir    .i'm working as root
[22:36] <Avt> im in gutsy
[22:37] <Syntux> PriceChild, Thank you :-) Where did you find that info ? would like to bookmark it
[22:37] <PriceChild> avis, "yes", but it is currently broken
[22:37] <nickrud> sofiankrt, apparently mandriva doesn't provide that driver, which lets you write to the windows partition. Can you wire up the laptop temporarily to the net so we can work in ubuntu?
[22:37] <PriceChild> Syntux, i looked at the line i have in mine when i tell software sources to add my ubuntu cd as a repo
[22:37] <g2g591> oDesk: what is giving you the permission error message?
[22:37] <nonfake> nickrud: MP-BIOS 8254 timer can't connect to IO-APIC ???? have any clue?
[22:38] <sofiankrt> nickrud: wire up?
[22:38] <nickrud> nonfake, nope. I (crossed fingers) have yet to see any hardware issues on my machines
[22:38] <sofiankrt> nickrud: what does that mean?
[22:38] <dabang> johnficc1: i guess you should have to compile and install the module only? then try modprobe <module-name> and see...
[22:38] <Syntux> PriceChild, hmm and the file:/ syntax?
[22:38] <nickrud> sofiankrt, plug it into the router or modem
[22:38] <Avt> is flash viewer in symantec of gutsy?????
[22:38] <PriceChild> Syntux, that was part of it
[22:38] <oDesk> g2g591: when i browse the directory using Firefox
[22:38] <sofiankrt> nickrud: no, can't do that...
[22:38] <r-wolf> my Gnome login screen shows @1280x720, and after login the resolution changes to 1280x1024, what's wrong with the settings?
[22:38] <Syntux> cool
[22:38] <Syntux> thanks
[22:38] <Syntux> :-)
[22:38] <Syntux> PriceChild, Thank you
[22:38] <nickrud> sofiankrt, ok, a minute or two.
[22:39] <dabang> nonfake  press F6 at boo screen and add "noapic", without quotation marks
[22:39] <ompaul> Avt, please read the topic for the channel do /topic if you can't see it in your client
[22:39] <Lr5_> Anyone knows how fast ubuntu is in ps3?
[22:39] <jhonovich> cron is not running, any idea on how to start/enable it?
[22:39] <Lr5_> Is it good compared to normal computer?
[22:39] <g2g591> oDesk: not sure
[22:39] <PriceChild> Lr5_, it does not have direct access to the video card
[22:39] <DefineByte> Anyone know why I can't view the root of my Windows partition (NTFS) but the contents of all sub-directories are viewable?
[22:40] <Avt> ok pacient :/
[22:40] <PriceChild> Lr5_, but there are ubuntu cd images availiable for the ps3
[22:41] <michael> How can i tell if my graphics card is installed properly?
[22:41] <oDesk> g2g591:then is there any way to fix permissions for this user ?
[22:41] <TurtleBoots> hi folks
[22:41] <Lr5_> michael: umm, try what running glxgears says
[22:41] <plamo> what let's me play .mp3 files again? I forgot
[22:41] <Lukasz> is your control panel working michael?
[22:41] <Lr5_> No idea if that's any proper test though
[22:41] <Lukasz> For the specified graphic card
[22:41] <TurtleBoots> can anyone here recommend good photo editing software for Ubuntu?
[22:41] <Lr5_> plamo: restrictedformats or something
[22:42] <nixnoob> anyone running gusty on a Asus C90s?
[22:42] <plamo> kk, thanks
[22:42] <nickrud> sofiankrt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49904/ . Basic instructions for undeleting the files in ubuntu
[22:42] <Lukasz> im on compaq usb external
[22:42] <Lr5_> plamo: nope, wasn't that, let me check
[22:42] <plamo> Lr5_: roger that.
[22:43] <Lr5_> plamo: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:43] <Lr5_> That should be it
[22:43] <plamo> many thanks
[22:43] <Lukasz> I had to download an ogg decoder to make aac+ work
[22:43] <sofiankrt> nickrud: so that should do it?
[22:43] <nickrud> sofiankrt, gotta step away for about 10 minutes. be back
[22:43] <Avt> I cant find flash ...
[22:43] <Tallen> Hi, Any tricks on getting all my 4GB of ram usable by *buntu 7.10 (2.6.22-14-generic)? More machine details here -> http://www.pastebin.org/13231.
[22:43] <nickrud> sofiankrt, yes, the key is the ctl-h , that will show you the hidden trash folder
[22:44] <petr4> hello. i changed graphics card (to VirtualBox's VESA card with 8 MB) and now my X servber exists with message "VESA: no matching device section for instance". I tried to run /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer but it produced the same result. I would appreciate any advice
[22:44] <nickrud> sofiankrt, if you have any doubt at any time, stop and come back
[22:44] <lafayette> i am trying to use this iptables script
[22:44] <sofiankrt> ok, so I will login to ubuntu now and see what happens!
[22:44] <Lr5_> Avt: flashplugin-nonfree or mozilla-plugin-gnash
[22:44] <sofiankrt> nickrud: thank you so much! it really means a lot to me!
[22:44] <Avt> ty
[22:44] <lafayette> but i get the erroriptables-restore v1.3.3: no command specified
[22:44] <lafayette> Error occurred at line: 41
[22:45] <Lr5_> Avt: for normal usage gnash should be good, but games probably require the flashplugin-nonfree one
[22:45] <tomix> hi
[22:45] <TurtleBoots> any one recommend photo editing software for Ubuntu?
[22:45] <Lr5_> TurtleBoots: gimp is quite good
[22:45] <michael> lukasz: idk...didnt know we had cp's in linux
[22:45] <Mondmann> anyone knows why i get a black screen while trying to boot xubuntu on my old laptop?
[22:46] <oDesk> anyway to repair permissions for Fedora VPS user ?
[22:46] <TurtleBoots> thanks Lr5
[22:46] <Lukasz> hmm
[22:46] <petr4> TurtleBoots: i use g-spot or something. only does basic editing like clipping
[22:46] <alex_> hi all ... is there fot 64 bits ubuntu help ?
[22:46] <Lukasz> Im gonna keep trying add picture to boot I mad ea backup of menu.lst anyways
[22:46] <tomix> ou inkscape
[22:49] <pr0nGuy> Is there something special needed to get virtualbox to see a USB device?
[22:49] <SmileyChris> so I'm trying to set up my laptop's modem...
[22:49] <SmileyChris> slamr module is installed and loaded, and dmsg reports "slamr: SmartLink AMRMO modem." - but slmodemd reports "mdm setup: cannot open dev `/dev/slamr0': No such device"
[22:49] <SmileyChris> any clues?
[22:50] <johnficca> just so anyone knows realtek rtl8185L cards have a driver that works with Ubuntu.
[22:50] <petr4> pr0nguy: the free softtware ediition of virtualbox does not do usb
[22:50] <petr4> use the non-free
[22:51] <BehiiMehii> Unable to mount the volume 'SimpleDrivePS'. (That's my external harddrive, and I can't seem to use it, how do I go about fixing that?) :/
[22:51] <petr4> and and host has options to provide usb to oguest
[22:52] <pr0nGuy> petr4: that's bad news for me.
[22:53] <wols> pr0nGuy: why not just mount it in leeenox?
[22:53] <cvd> where is the cursors folder location?
[22:53] <Lukasz> brb
[22:54] <BehiiMehii> So can any of you help me get my external harddrive working?
[22:54] <pr0nGuy> wols: I'm trying to do the easiest thing possible to get my canon printer to work while my host OS is leenox.
[22:54] <pvl1> my input method keeps changing, y is it doing that?
[22:54] <petr4> behii: tell us what does not work?
[22:54] <pr0nGuy> petr4: I found this: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=2776
[22:55] <cvd> ?
[22:55] <dury> hi there channel :)
[22:55] <petr4> behii: unfortunatelly if something in hotplug fails, it provides no feedback. damm the developers!
[22:55] <dury> can't became as superuser
[22:56] <petr4> pr0n: and what step did not work?
[22:57] <petr4> hello. i changed graphics card (to VirtualBox's VESA card with 8 MB, also happed when changed to my old S3 Trio card) and now my X servber exists with message "VESA: no matching device section for instance". I tried to run /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer but it produced the same result. I would appreciate any advice.
[22:57] <Madpilot> dury, not sure what you mean - is sudo not working for you?
[22:57] <nickrud> cvd, the cursors that the system provides are in /usr/share/icons , and the icons you add go into ~/.icons
[22:57] <dury> when I've installed ubuntu didn't ask me for su password
[22:57] <pvl1> My input method changes often within applications, how  can i stop that?
[22:57] <Madpilot> dury, that's because Ubuntu isn't set up to need one
[22:57] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | dury
[22:57] <ubotu> dury: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[22:57] <tim167> is there a good game console emulator for ubuntu ?
[22:58] <cvd> i just download a x-cursor theme and i dont know where to put theme
[22:58] <pr0nGuy> petr4: Didn't try it yet.  I'm just wondering if this will work for me, since I have the OSE version.
[22:58] <nickrud> cvd, unpack it into ~/.icons , create the directory if you need to
[22:59] <cvd> ok thanks
[23:00] <pr0nGuy> petr4: I'm reading the instructions right now, but it says: Go to System-> Administration-> Users and Groups.  I don't have the option "Users and Groups".
[23:00] <bobble> Anybody here use kerberos (kinit specifically) successfully on Gutsy? I keep getting "Improper format of Kerberos configuration file while initializing Kerberos 5 library" but I have the stock configuration file.
[23:01] <Montego> Anyone know of a safe easy to use defrag app in syn?
[23:01] <petr4> pr0n: probably yes. i have no experience in that. give it a try. consider browsing virtualbox release notes. they are verbose and usually list problems like this
[23:01] <johnficca> how do I blacklist a driver
[23:01] <johnficca> ?
[23:01] <DigitalNinja> can someone tell me if mke2fs records file access time?
[23:01] <Flannel> !blacklist | johnficca
[23:01] <ubotu> johnficca: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[23:01] <nickrud> tim167, xmame , snes9x-x , gnuboy-sdl , visualboyadvance , pcsx , to name a fuew
[23:02] <annonymouse> does any one know why all my video formats all play in black and white?
[23:02] <bobble> DigitalNinja: I think you can specify either way in /etc/fstab
[23:02] <DigitalNinja> bobble: Thanks
[23:02] <waQachiQi> If I edit the configure file in the source, do i need to do a chmod +x on it or something?
[23:02] <petr4> pr0n: really? well, it may br localized. otherwise you vcan fall back to addgroup and adduser
[23:03] <tim167> nickrud oh la la, so which one do you recommend (one for which i can find roms easily ) ? thanks
[23:03] <nickrud> tim167, I don't use any myself. you might find some irc channels for them, try looking on ircsearch.com
[23:03] <jsland> join #ubuntu
[23:03] <nickrud> welcome jsland (again)
[23:03] <nixnoob> annonymouse, what driver are you using? are you using a compositing manager like compiz?
[23:04] <davidwinter> Is there a way I can burn the Ubuntu install ISO to an external USB hard drive?
[23:04] <Madpilot> ubotu, install | davidwinter
[23:04] <ubotu> davidwinter: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:04] <nickrud> davidwinter, it's an iso, it will boot from a cd only
[23:04] <tim167> nickrud, thanks
[23:04] <nixnoob> davidwinter, search google for ubuntu pendrive
[23:04] <annonymouse> nixnoob  how would i find out  ive been using ubuntu for 5 days  smoothly with no understanding of it  and this is my first problem
[23:04] <Madpilot> davidwinter, you need the last URL ubotu just posted
[23:04] <Itaku> is there a way you can add more workspaces to switch through at the botom of the screen
[23:04] <Madpilot> davidwinter, and the first one, actually
[23:04] <zChris> can i install an old version of Ubuntu and then upgrade it too the newest?
[23:04] <nickrud> or see nixnoob didn't realize it worked from a disk drive also
[23:05] <Flannel> zChris: yes, but you canonly upgrade one version at a time
[23:05] <Madpilot> Itaku, right-click on the workspace switcher, Preferences
[23:05] <nickrud> zChris, one release at a time, and each is a very large download
[23:05] <nixnoob> annonymouse, what video card do you have?
[23:05] <LjL> Montego: there isn't any such thing
[23:05] <zChris> okey
[23:05] <annonymouse> an generic intel one  for an advent laptop
[23:05] <nixnoob> annonymouse are you using any desktop effects?
[23:06] <annonymouse> um yes
[23:06] <annonymouse> turn them off?
[23:06] <nixnoob> annonymouse try it
[23:06] <Itaku> thanks fuckers
[23:06] <Montego> Ljl Thanks!
[23:06] <zippytech> any one know why when i enable dual monitors with nvidia and set res to 1280x1024 i have a screen that moves when i hit the edge of the monitor
[23:07]  * annonymouse looks really stupid  how did i turn them on lol i remember a screen  i just cant remember  is it appearance
[23:07] <annonymouse> sorry found it
[23:07] <annonymouse> brb gonna reboot n test
[23:08] <Montego> Anyone know how to turn off join/Left using (xchat-gnome 0.18) I can't find it.
[23:08] <waQachiQi> If I edit the configure file in the source, do i need to do a chmod +x on it or something?
[23:08] <Montego> join/quit
[23:08] <nickrud> waQachiQi, probably not, it usually comes with the proper permissions already set
[23:08]  * nixnoob is AWAY ( errands )
[23:08] <waQachiQi> Hmm
[23:09] <Flannel> !away > nixnoob^away
[23:09] <LjL> !away > nixnoob^away    (nixnoob^away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:09] <waQachiQi> Is gedit a bad idea to use for editing source?
[23:09] <Madpilot> waQachiQi, no, it's fine, generally
[23:09] <LjL> waQachiQi: no... why would it be?
[23:09] <nickrud> waQachiQi, no, it's fine. Limited, but ok
[23:10] <waQachiQi> so if I edit the configure file, do I need to do anything else before I compile?
[23:10] <jsland> ordered a new motherboard before checking the hardware support and find the Asus M2N SLI deluxe  is not listed for Ubuntu.  Other M2N boards are supported.  If the other boards have the same chipset will they likely work with the deluxe board?
[23:10] <Tallen> Hi, Any tricks on getting all my 4GB of ram usable by *buntu 7.10 (2.6.22-14-generic)? More machine details here -> http://www.pastebin.org/13231.
[23:10] <LjL> waQachiQi: uh? edit the configure file?
[23:10] <alemones> Hi Guys, I would like to ask for help as my Ubuntu doesn't keep the resolution and other graphic setup when restarting. I have to restore after each restart!
[23:10] <Delvien> Do i need to keep whats in /var/cache/apt/archives or am i safe to delete it ?
[23:10] <waQachiQi> LjL yes
[23:10] <annonymouse> hey   thanks for the advice but still grey
[23:10] <LjL> Delvien: you can delete it safely by doing « sudo apt-get clean »
[23:11] <LjL> !elaborate | waQachiQi
[23:11] <ubotu> waQachiQi: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[23:11] <r-wolf> another try: my Gnome login screen shows @1280x720, and after login the resolution changes to 1280x1024, what could be wrong with the settings?
[23:11] <Delvien> LjL ahhhh.. ive been using autoclean for 4 years lol.... darnit
[23:11] <LeLLeL> hi! im on GG server install, and cant get my mumble-server to work. this is pasted from /var/log/murmur/murmur.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49902/ anyone got any idea?
[23:11] <r-wolf> how do I make them equal?
[23:12] <maybeway36> samba problem here
[23:12] <waQachiQi> LjL: http://calomel.org/rtorrent_mods.html <-- I'm trying to do this and it says I have to edit the "configure" file, in the libtorrent source.. So i do do anything else after I make the changes?
[23:12] <maybeway36> i have a folder "R.E.M." but it shows up as RP85G1~P over SMB/CIFS
[23:12] <AciD> hi
[23:13] <maybeway36> with the folder inside, "In Time: The Best of R.E.M. 1988-2003" it is also a garbled mess
[23:13] <maybeway36> is this ms-dos truncating?
[23:13] <AciD> is it normal that no upgrade has been seen on compiz since october 8 ? I'm using feisty
[23:13] <maybeway36> yes
[23:13] <maybeway36> feisty doesn't really have upgrades anymore :P
[23:13] <linuxfce> you can download extra plugins for compiz
[23:13] <AciD> ah
[23:14] <scguy318> AciD: when packages in a repo go stable, their version simply does not change unless for security reasons
[23:14] <scguy318> AciD: other distros put you on the bleeding edge though
[23:14] <LjL> waQachiQi: chmod +x might be needed, depending on the editor. not sure with gedit. i'd recommend that, if you really have to modify the source, you get the official Ubuntu source package and compile that, anyway.
[23:14] <linuxfce> http://shame.tuxfamily.org/repo/
[23:14] <linuxfce> that'll spiff up your compiz fusion
[23:14] <AciD> it's not that much about plugins, but about stability (I have some pretty annoying random crashes since I switched from beryl to compiz-fusion)
[23:14] <magic_ninja> !ice
[23:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:14] <nickrud> nothing like having your toys randomly break
[23:14] <crdlb> linuxfce: uh ... that's for debian
[23:15] <AciD> ok so this means the "new" version is quite like more "unstable" ?
[23:15] <linuxfce> lol does it matter
[23:15] <annonymouse> hi sorry ti keep pestering but can some one give me an idea where to go on this,  my vlc and mplayer are showing films in black n white ive reinstalled vlc and turned windows effectss of and rebooted  still same problem  its only happened  since last night
[23:15] <scguy318> AciD: yes
[23:15] <LimCore> mc provides brain dead stupid unreadable colors by default (dark gray on blue) how to fix that?
[23:15] <crdlb> linuxfce: yes.
[23:16] <scguy318> annonymouse: maybe you have some filter going?
[23:16] <annonymouse> on both programs? howd i check
[23:16] <alex_> how can I install the codecs to waqtch dvds n my 64 bits ?
[23:16] <nickrud> LimCore, I usually just change the terminal colors to rxvt better contrast imo
[23:17] <AciD> thx for the tips guys
[23:17] <LimCore> it still sucks
[23:17] <alex_>  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh gives me an error
[23:17] <LimCore> cant stupid mc provide normal white on black text or something
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > LimCore
[23:17] <LjL> !atti
[23:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atti - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:17] <bobble> Anybody know Kerberos? What is default_realm supposed to be in krb5.con?
[23:17] <bobble> .conf
[23:18] <scguy318> alex_: what's the error?
[23:18] <alex_> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[23:18] <Myrtti> !attitude | LimCore
[23:18] <Flannel> LimCore: you can customize the color scheme
[23:18] <ubotu> LimCore: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:18] <LjL> !build-essential > alex_    (alex_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:18] <LimCore> Jack_Sparrow: well I dont want a refund, still thoes colors are, quite frankly ((c) Torvalds),totally unusable
[23:18] <LimCore> Flannel: how to?
[23:18] <Avt> whats the command to change the roots pasword from term login?
[23:18] <nickrud> LimCore, try mc -H
[23:18] <LjL> !root > Avt    (Avt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:19] <Myrtti> Avt: you don't have root
[23:19] <Myrtti> Avt: you shouldn't have root
[23:19] <linuxfce> how can i set an ubuntu livecd iso to be part of my os boot selection
[23:19] <alex_> thanks
[23:19] <linuxfce> i want the iso to boot from the hard drive
[23:19] <Avt> ?
[23:19] <Avt> brb
[23:20] <annonymouse> pls help this is driving me nuts
[23:20] <Myrtti> linuxfce: there should be an option for that
[23:20] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: don't byte my head off...i got disconnected that time because my isp was down... =P
[23:20] <nikin> hy is consolekit a nescesarry daemon to start ubuntu?
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: np...  I am very preoccupied here...
[23:21] <LimCore> nickrud: thanks!
[23:21]  * LimCore braindeads his mc colors
[23:21] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: what's up?
[23:21] <LimCore> erm, un*
[23:21] <falconer> I think linuxfce means that he has an iso on the hard drive, and wants an option in grub to boot from that iso file on the disk
[23:21] <linuxfce> yes!!
[23:21] <linuxfce> that would be great for when x crashes
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: Nothing that would be on-topic thanks...   just ask any anyopne here that can help will help.
[23:21] <Myrtti> mmmmmmkay
[23:21] <ompaul> linuxfce, less of the running commentary please ;-)
[23:21] <nikin> hy is consolekit a nescesarry daemon to start ubuntu?
[23:21] <LimCore> I know there are probably good reasons to provide unreadable colors to users, by would it be possible to provide usable default configuration in ubuntu?
[23:22] <Weasel[DK]> is it possible to install a 32bit version on an AMD 64bit ?
[23:22] <falconer> well, linuxfce, I don't know how to do that. But I'm not an expert :D
[23:22] <Flannel> Weasel[DK]: yes
[23:22] <ramrebol_> hi
[23:22] <PriceChild> !bug | LimCore
[23:22] <ubotu> LimCore: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:22] <linuxfce> hm ok. ill check google, its gotta be doable
[23:22] <magic_ninja> i did an apt-get install icewm and for some reason i don't have ANY configuration files, any ideas guys
[23:22] <rodolfo> Weasel[DK]: yeah, but there would be loss of performance, you know?
[23:22] <kylebaked> how can i find the vga framebuffer mode for 1280x800?
[23:22] <PriceChild> magic_ninja, checked /usr/share?
[23:22] <Weasel[DK]> yes i thought so
[23:23] <Flannel> rodolfo, Weasel[DK], not really.  You don't get whatever gain you would from the 64bit OS, but 32bit OS wont run slower on it
[23:23] <rodolfo> Weasel[DK]: your processor has 64-bit instructions, then USE IT
[23:23] <Avt> um i have root man
[23:23] <LimCore> PriceChild: I know.  1) go to page  2) report bug  3) wait  4) wait  5) wait  6) you die out of oldage 7) ubuntu 42.52 for amd512 includes the bugfix.   is the something more that one can do to fix it quicker?
[23:23] <xal2> Hi
[23:23] <Avt> i built the pc :/
[23:23] <annonymouse> i fixed it!!!
[23:23] <Avt> course i have root
[23:24] <rodolfo> Flannel, i had the same thought as your...but when i intalled a winxp-64BE on a athlon 64 x2, some apps really run faster than on a 32BE
[23:24] <PriceChild> LimCore, if its a bug, please file it on launchpad
[23:24] <|DuReX|> what ubuntu disk supports installing/booting from dmraid ?
[23:24] <LimCore> PriceChild: ok I will do it right after work
[23:24] <rodolfo> Flannel, for example games
[23:25] <rodolfo> Flannel, so why on ubuntu it would be different?
[23:25] <Shpook> Ugh, brand new installation, and I've already messed it up lol.
[23:25] <Avt> sudo passwd....
[23:25] <k3ito> can anyone tell me of a media player that lets me browse my music by artwork for linux?
[23:25] <Avt> thats all you had to say
[23:25] <Shpook> I have both KDE and Gnome installed right now...will there be any problems with removing KDE? I've read on the forums about people having issues when they do this.
[23:25] <rodolfo> Flannel, i mean if there was no difference between 32 and 63 bit editions, so why does the 64BE exist?
[23:26] <Gnea> k3ito: i think amarok does it
[23:26] <magic_ninja> where are gnome configuration files located?
[23:26] <Gnea> magic_ninja: ~/.gconf/
[23:26] <LimCore> how to make it not possible to bypass root password by booting into rescue mode etc?
[23:26] <nickrud> Avt, the ubuntu security model is built around using sudo rather than having an actual root password. Alternative, some say better, some say worse. It works
[23:26] <k3ito> Gnea: is there any way to have amarok store the artwork downlaoded by the cover manager in the relevant folder and not in it's own unique database backend!
[23:26] <ompaul> LimCore, put a password on your grub
[23:27] <Gnea> k3ito: that's an amarok issue, ask them
[23:27] <inch> k3ito I don't think there is one that will let you browse by the album art but Amarok displays the album art for each album so you may give that a try
[23:27] <ompaul> LimCore, you need to get in at some level if you encrypt everything I hope you never forget any password
[23:27] <Flannel> LimCore: the mc manpage talks about how to set your own colors in the config file.  Its larger than I can explain here though.
[23:27] <Avt> nick what that mean in english
[23:27] <nickrud> magic_ninja, ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.config ~/.local ~/.cache ~/.gconf (that I've found so far :)
[23:27] <magic_ninja> Gnea: the start menu entries are located here?
[23:27] <k3ito> Gnea:: k cheers ;)
[23:27] <kylebaked> does anyone know how to set my framebuffer at boot to 1280x800?
[23:27] <LimCore> Flannel: would be nice to include some comfortable setting by default
[23:27] <k3ito> inch:: shame
[23:27] <nickrud> magic_ninja, those are in ~/.local/share/applications
[23:28] <Flannel> rodolfo: The 64bit OS is faster in some areas, but most general application use there is little, if any, difference.
[23:28] <AciD> ah, I meant gutsy in fact :)
[23:28] <Avt> nickrud whats that mean in simple english?
[23:28] <k3ito> inch: the new winamp (preferred media player for win) has just that and its perfect
[23:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | Avt - explained better here:
[23:28] <ubotu> Avt - explained better here:: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:28] <nickrud> LimCore, to answer your question of speeding up a change, you might consider adding a patch
[23:28] <Flannel> rodolfo: the benefit of larger registers and more of them is offset by the overhead of larger pointers and such
[23:28] <kane77> what is the best way to synchronize my project between laptop and desktop?
[23:28] <k3ito> wanted something similar for ubuntu as there is NO WAY i'm going back to wion now
[23:28] <zippytech> any one have an idea why on dual monitors my screen moves when i hit the edge with the mouse
[23:28] <nickrud> in more detail, and advocacy, but better? some say yes, some say no :)
[23:28] <Flannel> LimCore: MCs colors have always been that way
[23:29] <LimCore> Flannel: they are completelly unreadable, or is it just me
[23:29] <Avt> did i say simple lol
[23:29] <LimCore> grayish gray on grayish blue, for teh win
[23:29] <magic_ninja> nickrud: there is no single directory or file that specifies the gnome menu entries (i'm trying to convert them to the icewm menu"
[23:29] <Flannel> LimCore: Apparently its just you, or some customization you've done to your terminal colors.  Light grey on light blue, right?
[23:29] <LimCore> Flannel: yeah
[23:29] <nickrud> magic_ninja, install menu and menu-xdg , they'll convert for your
[23:29] <nickrud> *you
[23:30] <LimCore> but on LCD the grey, especially of directories, blends with this blueish
[23:30] <LimCore> in default gnome term
[23:30] <Flannel> LimCore: Yeah.  Thats how its always been.  If you turn your terminals colors off, you'll get foreground on background
[23:30] <Avt> ok I have radeon saphire x800 gto video card how I install the correct driver?
[23:30] <magic_ninja> nickrud: then just restart icewm or run a command or what?
[23:30] <k3ito> Avt: envy can do it
[23:30] <|DuReX|> what ubuntu disk supports installing/booting from dmraid ?
[23:30] <Avt> will it work
[23:30] <ompaul> !envy | Avt
[23:30] <ubotu> Avt: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:30] <Avt> last time it mess up
[23:30] <Flannel> LimCore: Of course, with that you also lose colorization.  You might try googling around for a better color scheme for your LCD
[23:31] <k3ito> Avt: should do
[23:31] <Avt> k I try again
[23:31] <ompaul> !worksforme | k3ito
[23:31] <ubotu> k3ito: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[23:31] <Avt> brb..
[23:31] <k3ito> Avt: i have manually edited my xorg.conf for use with the x800xt pe
[23:31] <Nicolaidis> help with cairo dock
[23:31] <nickrud> magic_ninja, it should do it automatically, but you can run update-menus by hand
[23:32] <magic_ninja> nickrud: ty i'm going to try this
[23:32] <Avt> um how to run envy
[23:32] <k3ito> ompaul: does the restriceted man find the *latest* driver?
[23:32] <Avt> in gutsy
[23:32] <ryanov> Does anyone here happen to know why flashplugin-nonfree with Flash 9.0.115 was removed?
[23:32] <Myrtti> !envy | Avt
[23:32] <ubotu> Avt: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:32] <nickrud> Avt, as far away away from you and as fast as you can
[23:33] <Flannel> LimCore: As an example (an unfortunate one at that)  You'll notice this scheme is still X on blue: http://www.kde-files.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=32814&file1=32814-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Pleasent+NC%2FMC+color+style&PHPSESSID=c53a6c8
[23:33] <Tallen> no-one using 4GB RAM on a 32-bit *buntu ?
[23:33] <ompaul> k3ito, it finds a driver that is known to work and if it that does not work then there is _NO_ supported version yet that means that we don't suggest it - this is about stability not might work
[23:33] <ryanov> I see that it was pulled from the repository by Martin Pitt, but the reason given was (broken SRU)... not sure what that stands for.
[23:33] <rodolfo> Tallen: what's the problem?
[23:33] <k3ito> ompaul: never heard of any problems using envy.  not like the use of automatix anyhow
[23:34] <Avt> myrtti I didnt get the ubotu message yet
[23:34] <Tallen> rodolfo; Hi, Any tricks on getting all my 4GB of ram usable by *buntu 7.10 (2.6.22-14-generic)? More machine details here -> http://www.pastebin.org/13231.
[23:34] <KlrSpz> Tallen: yeah what's the issue?
[23:34] <ompaul> k3ito, it has had the same effect
[23:34] <ompaul> !envy | Avt
[23:34] <ubotu> Avt: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:34] <magic_ninja> nickrud: br right back going to restart x
[23:34] <nickrud> rodolfo, did you ever get your compiz config to stop complaining?
[23:34] <Avt> !envy | Avt
[23:34] <ryanov> Isn't the limit 3.3 or something like that with 32-bit, or is that Windows only?
[23:34] <KlrSpz> well >2 gig is already himem
[23:34] <k3ito> ompaul: i couldn't run compiz nor games with the restricted driver man driver
[23:34] <ompaul> Avt, the message was in the channel: ubotu> Avt: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:35] <zetheroo> umm... what do you do when your keyboard no longer toggles the volume?
[23:35] <k3ito> ompaul: i think the card is blacklisted
[23:35] <Flannel> ryanov: You can do >3.3 (or whatever it is) with certain things enabled
[23:35] <Avt> im confused
[23:35] <magic_ninja> nickrud: hrm this didn't work still no program entries or anything in gnome
[23:35] <LimCore> Tallen: you need probly 64bit kernel to use it fully
[23:35] <Tallen> KlrSpz: actually I have updated the pastebin to include the dmesg output as well (3200 MB HIGHMEM + 896MB found) -> http://www.pastebin.org/13242
[23:35] <LjL> Avt: it shows
[23:35] <rodolfo> nickrud: not only i did, its working perfectly
[23:35] <k3ito> ompaul: though the ati driver is coming on in leaps n bounds
[23:35] <Avt> what restricted drivers manager
[23:35] <Nicolaidis> can someone help me install cairo dock
[23:35] <Avt> were is it
[23:35] <ryanov> What's the reason for sticking to 32 anyway?
[23:35] <nickrud> magic_ninja, in gnome? I thought you wanted gnome menus in icewm
[23:35] <ompaul> Avt, do this: /msg ubotu binarydriver and it will reply
[23:35] <Flannel> Tallen: The server kernel has support for higher amounts of RAM, or you can compile the ubuntu kernel with some tweaks and get it too
[23:35] <k3ito> avt: system>admin
[23:35] <Tallen> ryanov: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4
[23:35] <nickrud> magic_ninja, or, the menu items that debian provides in icewm (that's how it's structured)
[23:36] <magic_ninja> nickrud: there is a "gnome and kde" entries in the application menu
[23:36] <carrierBag> Hi. I'm up to recompile php from scratch (to get the bundled GD version). Do I have to uninstall/remove php first per synaptic or can I just go along and compile over the old php? Any advice? I don't wont to mess up the (package)system.. :|
[23:36] <Avt> o ty
[23:36] <ompaul> ryanov, easy of use - if you are not running massive dbs (and you should not be on a desktop)  then for desktop reasons easier to do 32bit
[23:36] <magick211> Maybe someone can help me, I just recently tried to patch madwifi drivers and my laptop battery died in the process, now when i try to patch i get a error, i tried delting the source and the patch and redownloading but i still get same error
[23:36] <Flannel> carrierBag: Why are you compiling it?
[23:36] <nickrud> magic_ninja, phone call, brb
[23:36] <carrierBag> Flannel: I need the bundled version of the GD Graphics Library
[23:36] <ryanov> Gotcha.
[23:37] <KlrSpz> Tallen: i'm not sure what the default ubuntu config is as the config is NOT stored in the kernel proc space
[23:37] <notv> i cant get audacity to convert my files to mp3
[23:37] <linuxfce> what error do you get notv
[23:37] <Flannel> carrierBag: What are the benefits of the "Bundled Version" as opposed to the one in the repository?
[23:37] <KlrSpz> which is bs if you ask me.. however i do believe it to be compatible as i have 4gb of ram at work with no issues
[23:37] <notv> none
[23:37] <linuxfce> what happens
[23:37] <magick211> Anyone know why im getting the patch error now, even after i redownloaded the source and patch
[23:37] <notv> it just doesnt show anything for mp3 exporting
[23:37] <ryanov> That page is not technically correct, is it?
[23:37] <notv> i have lame
[23:37] <ryanov> KlrSpz: There is one in /boot though, isn't there?
[23:37] <jepes_> hi, i replaced my mouse but the new one wouldnt work. im sure my new mouse isnt broken.
[23:37] <|DuReX|> what does the alternate cd has more ?
[23:37] <carrierBag> Flannel: the generic one in the repository you get with php5-gd does not include some functions like ImageRotate... which I need
[23:38] <notv> and i direct audacity to libmp3lame.so.0
[23:38] <notv> but i dont get any messages saying that its working
[23:38] <Shpook> jepes_: what's it do or not do?
[23:38] <KlrSpz> CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
[23:38] <rodolfo> Tallen: so it does not recognize the correct amount of memory...?
[23:38] <LjL> !who | notv
[23:38] <KlrSpz> so i mean it must be enabled?
[23:38] <linuxfce> sorry i have to go, but my audacity didnt require anything to export as mp3, so i dont know what to do
[23:38] <ubotu> notv: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[23:38] <notv> on my desktop, i have options to export to mp3, but i do not see these options here on my laptop
[23:38] <LjL> err, i meant more like
[23:38] <ryanov> I believe there /IS/ a Flash for 64-bit, so I don't know if that community page is right.
[23:38] <LjL> !enter | notv
[23:38] <ubotu> notv: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:39] <mpeters> hello folks. I've got a compaq presario v5000 whose volume control buttons control the master volume track, but not the pcm.
[23:39] <owner10010101> whats the site for installing the libraries for playing dvd's and mp3s
[23:39] <mpeters> is there anyway to chagne this?
[23:39] <notv> sorry ljl
[23:39] <Tallen> rodolfo: yes, it only sees 2.9GB of the 4GB (3.9GB should be reported by the 32bit kernel).
[23:39] <mpeters> it seems that adjusting the master volume sliders doesn't actually change the volume
[23:39] <jepes_> Shpook: "do not"
[23:39] <notv> can anyone help me get audacity to export mp3s?
[23:39] <Flannel> carrierBag: Are you sure?  I've used ImageRotate on my dapper box.  You'd know more than I do about it though.  For compiling, see !compile, and also remember to put stuff in /usr/local (which is how you keep it from breaking your package stuff).  You should remove the packages from the repos, and if you have anything that depends on them, you'll need to make dummy packages to satisfy the depends.
[23:39] <ryanov> notv: What does not work?
[23:39] <rodolfo> Tallen: how many memories do you have installed? 2x2GB?
[23:40] <owner10010101> i cant play dvds and i got a fresh install someone told me there was some website for the data i need medi....buntu..... can u help
[23:40] <Shpook> jepes_: yes, but is it completely dead, or does tracking work and not the buttons?
[23:40] <LeLLeL> hi! im on GG server install, and cant get my mumble-server to work. this is pasted from /var/log/murmur/murmur.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49902/ anyone got any idea?
[23:40] <Flannel> !dvd | owner10010101
[23:40] <magic_ninja> nickrud: brb restarting again
[23:40] <ubotu> owner10010101: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:40] <notv> ryanov i do not have any options for exporting to mp3, only wav, flac, and sorts
[23:40] <Tallen> rodolfo: yes. lshw reports that correctly. The BIOS reports 4028MB RAM. Dmesg reports 3200MB + 896MB found. But 'free -m' only reports 2.9GB total RAM.
[23:40] <jepes_> shpook: its completely dead on ubuntu, but it works well under windows.
[23:40] <Gnarkill> irc://Irc.Wild-Bytes.org/wild-bytes
[23:40] <carrierBag> Flannel: yes, I'm sure. And I need the bundled version of GD, which is not included in ubuntu LTS for security reasons.. :/
[23:41] <mpeters> i experience the same issues running sudo alsamixer
[23:41] <owner10010101> thx do u know the weblink for the site
[23:41] <mpeters> master doesn't have any affect on volume, but pcm does
[23:41] <mpeters> :/
[23:41] <Shpook> jepes_: what kind of mouse? (brand/model)
[23:41] <LjL> notv: File / Apply Chain / MP3 Conversion works here. not sure if it's supposed to be available from Export as well
[23:41] <Gnurdux> does ubuntu use a grub stage 1.5?
[23:41] <Flannel> Gnurdux: yes
[23:41] <KlrSpz> Tallen: wow that's really weird, i really don't know what to say.. it works flawless on my box at work i know
[23:41] <Gnurdux> ok
[23:41] <Gnurdux> and hwere is it put?
[23:41] <Shpook> jepes_: also, is it connected via P/S2 or USB?
[23:41] <Tallen> KlrSpz: its making me wacko.
[23:41] <ryanov> Tallen: What HW?
[23:41] <Gnurdux> in the beginning of the ubuntu partition?
[23:42] <lukasz> why do I get mesa xfree 86 missing?
[23:42] <rodolfo> Tallen: have you already run memtest to see whats going on?
[23:42] <jepes_> ps/2 generic optical mouse with scroll, previous was also ps/2 generic witout scroll and not optical
[23:42] <Tallen> ryanov: this pastebin has all alot of details about my issue -> http://www.pastebin.org/13242
[23:42] <Greevous> how can I cd into a hidden directory in the terminal?
[23:42] <ryanov> 640k should be enough for anyone.
[23:42] <Tallen> rodolfo: the RAM is seen by the BIOS fine. The problem is something with the kernel I sumize.
[23:42] <bitmonk> Greevous: same as any other.  you mean a directory starting with '.' ?
[23:42] <ryanov> Greevous: Nothing different
[23:42] <bitmonk> just "cd .foo/"
[23:43] <Greevous> bitmonk: do I need to add "sudo"?
[23:43] <lukasz> !find mesa
[23:43] <ubotu> Found: libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg, libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-glx-dbg (and 18 others)
[23:43] <lukasz> hmm
[23:43] <jepes_> shpook: ps/2 generic optical mouse with scroll, previous was also ps/2 generic witout scroll and not optical
[23:43] <bitmonk> nope.  dotfiles / dir are only semantically hidden, e.g. ls filters them, they are not hidden from you.
[23:43] <magic_ninja> nickrud: i think i'm getting it figured out, ty, btw guys if you want a lightweight, customizable wm, try icewm its lightweight, but its really customizable
[23:43] <bitmonk> well, maybe ls doesn't filter them.  i don't know off-hand, but they are filtered, not restricted.
[23:44] <Shpook> jepes_: can you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin.org for me?
[23:44] <bitmonk> magic_ninja: i have spent many late nights with icewm, good stuff
[23:44] <ryanov> bitmonk: They don't show without -a. I guess that's filtering.
[23:44] <simmer1> is there a channel that is best suited to helping with routing issues?
[23:44] <Greevous> bitmonk: ryanov: I get a "permission denied" when I try to simply cd into it
[23:44] <jepes_> shpook: ok,
[23:44] <bitmonk> Greevous: that's not because of dots, but because of permissions
[23:44] <bitmonk> try ls -ld .foo/
[23:44] <bitmonk> should tell you who owns it and what access uga have
[23:45] <rodolfo> nickrud: unlike windows, ubuntu has no limited memory recognizer uh?
[23:45] <LjL> rodolfo: a what?
[23:45] <magick211> Hello guys im trying ot "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and its asking for the ubuntu cdrom, i dont have it here wiht me is there anything else i can do?
[23:45] <ryanov> Tallen: Interesting.
[23:45] <LjL> magick211: remove it from Software Sources
[23:46] <notv> ljl where does apply chain  export the mp3 to?
[23:46] <magick211> LjL, Can you tell me how to do that?
[23:46] <Greevous> bitmonk: root owns it, so do I need to change permissions with chown or chmod in order to copy files to and from?
[23:46] <pike_> magick211: easiest way is to launch synaptic and do it there
[23:46] <bitmonk> Greevous: yeap, and you need sudo for chown and chmod
[23:46] <rodolfo> LjL: some versions of windows is limited...i mean you can install 2x2GB on a windows "starter" edition, but it will only recognize 2GB of your 4GB...(thats an example). does that happen on ubuntu?
[23:46] <Onyx> Anyone know how I can get vmware on my amd64?
[23:46] <LjL> magick211: not from Software Sources, because i'm not on GNOME... but it should be pretty trivial really. anyway from console, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD-ROM lines
[23:46] <bitmonk> rodolfo: absolutely not ever because of any arbitrary limit.
[23:47] <bitmonk> (only if your mobo had issues - not some licensing scam)
[23:47] <magick211> Ljl, Thanks i will do that now
[23:47] <joesoundguy> anyone using songbird?
[23:48] <ryanov> Tallen: Assuming you haven't tried going with a PAE kernel
[23:48] <ryanov> ?
[23:48] <Greevous> bitmonk: so there's no way to access the files without changing the permissions, since "sudo cd" doesn't work...
[23:48] <Avt> should I sudo apt-get install xscreensaver ??? in gutsy or no
[23:48] <ryanov> sudo is not really going to work for that.
[23:48] <bitmonk> yeah you can't sudo cd
[23:48] <bitmonk> you can sudo su -
[23:48] <Shpook> jepes_: You got it posted yet?
[23:48] <pike_> Avt: yes it is in gutsy
[23:48] <bitmonk> or sudo bash
[23:48] <Enselic> Greevous: just sudo ls?
[23:48] <bitmonk> and then cd
[23:48] <ryanov> bitmonk: sudo -s
[23:48] <Avt> it say it not installed
[23:48] <bitmonk> you can also sudo ls
[23:48] <bitmonk> you can sudo anything
[23:48] <jepes_> shpook: im almost there
[23:48] <hatter> how do i know which user to add to a group if this happens :  zmc_dvideo0[8707]: ERR [Failed to open video device /dev/video0: Permission denied]
[23:48] <nickrud> magic_ninja, good to hear. rodolfo what was the cause?
[23:48] <bitmonk> but not cd, because having su powers to switch dir doesn't help you have access to be in that dir once you lose su power
[23:48] <ryanov> Greevous: sudo -s for a root shell.
[23:49] <Enselic> hatter: sudo usermod -G video user
[23:49] <wols> hatter: ls -al /dev/video0
[23:49]  * bitmonk defer to ryanov 
[23:49] <Tallen> ryanov: how exactly would I do that? what are any pitfalls of such a kernel?
[23:49] <rodolfo> bitmonk, nickrd: and have you noticed some bu related to the "kernel-does-not-recgnize-my-amount-of-memory"?
[23:49] <Avt> why it say xscreensaver isnt installed but it is
[23:49] <LjL> ryanov: sudo -i is often a better idea though
[23:49] <Greevous> ryanov: okay, that works. Thanks.
[23:49] <bitmonk> "bu" ?
[23:49] <magick211> Ljl, I installed the build essential erlier and tried to patch my mad-wifi drivers but my laptop batter died in the process, now when i try to patc i get error. Do i need to remove the build essential that i downloaded erlier?
[23:49] <ryanov> Tallen: No idea, I just generally listen to the kernel messages if they tell me to try something. :
[23:49] <ryanov> :)
[23:49] <Shpook> jepes_: okay, not trying to rush you or anything, I was just curious. :-)
[23:49] <wols> rodolfo: does your BIOS recognize it?
[23:49] <alex_> someone here has an ipaq hp ?
[23:49] <Avt> The program 'xscreensaver' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[23:49] <Avt> sudo apt-get install xscreensaver
[23:49] <nickrud> rodolfo, not for years, I used to have to add MEM=xxx to lilo
[23:49]  * bitmonk has a stupid redhat server which only sees 3.5G of 4G but am told it's the supermicro motherboard and don't even think it has anything to do with the kernel
[23:49] <wols> bitmonk: bug I guess
[23:49] <invalidsyntax> I tried to use hda0,1 in grub for windows and it said ntldr missiing
[23:49] <rodolfo> nickrud: that's whats going on Tallen's computer...check this out: http://www.pastebin.org/13231
[23:49] <Avt> and im in gutsy should be here ya
[23:49] <Tallen> ryanov: well I saw that , but I am not using more than 4GB so I didnt think it applied.
[23:50] <alex_> I can see that it uses the ipaq.c driver
[23:50] <jepes_> shpook: im having trouble running thru tabs on firefox (pastebin.org) newarly there)
[23:50] <KlrSpz> Gnea: you around?
[23:50] <ryanov> LjL: /me defer to LjL :)
[23:50] <ryanov> Whoop-s.
[23:50] <alex_> but what's the application to use ?
[23:50] <zippytech> any one know why when i enable dual monitors with nvidia and set res to 1280x1024 i have a screen that moves when i hit the edge of the monitor
[23:50] <Avt> ail my screensaver woes
[23:50] <hatter> Enselic, wols, thx,  /dev/video0  belongs to video group,  but how do i know which 'user' to add to it ?
[23:50] <LjL> notv: uhm, i think if you've saved the project in audacity, it will tell you where it's going to export to. it's weird though
[23:50] <sint> hey, i don't get the init system of ubuntu .. how to get removed stuff from starting while boot except using update-rc.d?? i always get: "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/bla exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)"
[23:50] <nickrud> rodolfo, what does free say?
[23:50] <KlrSpz> zippytech: are your frequencies correct?
[23:50] <Enselic> hatter: the user that you want to be able to access ideo
[23:50] <Enselic> video*
[23:50] <rodolfo> nickrud: excuse me?
[23:50] <wols> hatter: whoami
[23:50] <bitmonk> sint: something is wrong or you are using it wrong, probably..
[23:51] <lukasz> damn I can't seem to find Xfree86-dri hmm
[23:51] <ryanov> Tallen: The fact that it mentioned it is interesting, though... I'm not sure what causes it to print that message.
[23:51] <invalidsyntax> any ideas?
[23:51] <nickrud> rodolfo, ah, I'm reading back, seeing more. and free is the command to check memory status
[23:51] <bitmonk> but you should learn how the underlying rc system works. look in /etc/rc*.d
[23:51] <magick211> LjL, I dont see a cd rom line in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:51] <owner10010101> sry mates whats the addy for media ubuntu
[23:51] <bitmonk> usually rcN.d where N is a runlevel number
[23:51] <sint> bitmonk: not sure, i typed: update-rc.d program remove
[23:51] <wols> lukasz: cause it doesn't exist anymore, just like XFree86, at least not in ubuntu
[23:51] <bitmonk> sint: is that what the manpage says to do?
[23:51] <sint> and -f doesn't to any better
[23:51] <magic_ninja> what is rc.d
[23:51] <magic_ninja> run command daemon?
[23:52] <KlrSpz> just the collection of rc scripts
[23:52] <lukasz> er what do I do then wols? it doesn't display ati info just says mesa missing?
[23:52] <LjL> !pastebin | magick211: paste it all here
[23:52] <ubotu> magick211: paste it all here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:52] <wols> magic_ninja: it's part of sysvinit
[23:52] <KlrSpz> you symlink them into your run levels
[23:52] <nickrud> magic_ninja, sounds close to me :)
[23:52] <lukasz> fglrxinfo
[23:52] <ryanov> Tallen: Mine does not bitch about that, but I only have 1024MB
[23:52] <wols> lukasz: what videocard?
[23:52] <JonaTh> ! keyboard
[23:52] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[23:52] <lukasz> I am using ati
[23:52] <JonaTh> !keyboard
[23:52] <Avt> I need to install flash player in gutsy??? how
[23:52] <LjL> !flash > Avt    (Avt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:52] <sint> bitmonk: just for the moment its lighttpd and the man page says almost nothing
[23:52] <wols> lukasz: you load the drm module for your kernel for example
[23:52] <JonaTh> !shortcuts
[23:52] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[23:52] <bitmonk> the manpage for update-rc.d ?
[23:52]  * bitmonk checks
[23:52] <lukasz> how can I load the drm modules wols?
[23:52] <hatter> the current user is already added to this group (video) but when i try to run zoneminder this appears in the logs :  zmc_dvideo0[8707]: ERR [Failed to open video device /dev/video0: Permission denied]
[23:53] <ryanov> Tallen: Similar, but below 4GB also: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2003-07/0995.html
[23:53] <wols> lukasz: via modprobe. but best look for a howto for e.g. 9200 radeon
[23:53] <nickrud> hatter, did the current user log completely out and back in (required when added to new group)
[23:53] <Avt> they broke it? lmao :/
[23:53] <lukasz> ok
[23:53] <theLichKing> !fluxbox
[23:53] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[23:53] <wols> hatter: ls -l /dev/video0
[23:53] <rodolfo> Avt, by typing this on your terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:53] <Avt> this has been going on for like 3 months
[23:53] <hatter> nickrud, thx, the user was already part of the group
[23:53] <JonaTh> I don't understand how to easily move between to keymaps in 7.10.
[23:53] <sint> but i had similar trouble with samba yesterday, gave up and let it start while boot anyway. is update-rc.d the right command to remove programs from autostart anyway?
[23:53] <lukasz> link wols?
[23:53] <JonaTh> I used alt + alt gr in Dapper
[23:53] <jepes_> shpook: http://pastebin.org/13254 (whew, that was the longest paste i''ved don..)
[23:54] <Avt> ty
[23:54] <hatter> wols, crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2007-12-29 20:53 /dev/video0
[23:54] <wols> sint: use rcconf. update-rc.d is sorta from dbeian
[23:54] <rodolfo> Avt, also, check this site out for more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[23:54] <Shpook> jepes_: okay, gimme a min
[23:54] <theLichKing> !grub
[23:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:54] <wols> hatter: did you add yoursel to video or have you been part of it for a long time?
[23:54] <jepes_> shpook: ok, thanks
[23:54] <hatter> wols, yes have been part of it all along
[23:54] <hatter> tvtime runs
[23:54] <soldats> Avt, you can go to adobes home page and download and install it from there
[23:54] <sint> wols: thanks. hope this works :)
[23:55] <ryanov> I wonder what CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G does, since it seems to be turned on.
[23:55] <alemones> Hi Guys, I would like to ask for help as my Ubuntu doesn't keep the resolution and other graphic setup when restarting. I have to restore after each restart!
[23:55] <ader10> I forgot the command to see my kernel
[23:55] <ader10> what is it?
[23:55] <wols> ryanov: detemines where the kernel and userspace split
[23:55] <magick211> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49910/
[23:55] <wols> ader10: uname -a
[23:55] <ader10> ty
[23:55] <ryanov> I wonder could that have to do with his problem in some way.
[23:55] <niuq> it's any application like movie maker for linux
[23:55] <wols> niuq: kino, cinelerra
[23:56] <wols> ryanov: depends
[23:56] <rodolfo> alemones, have you manually changed something on your xorg.conf?
[23:56] <lukasz> I did modprobe flglrx and it did something nut dunno what and the info still shows mesa
[23:56] <niuq> wols: thx
[23:56] <wols> lukasz: what card do you have?
[23:56] <ryanov> wols: Upon anything in particular? :)
[23:56] <lukasz> Ati rade 200 m intergrated
[23:56] <lukasz> Ati radeon 200 m intergrated*
[23:56] <wols> lukasz: afaik that needs fglrx yes
[23:57] <wols> !ati | lukasz
[23:57] <ubotu> lukasz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:57] <aswear> hi all, does anyone have estimates on system requirements on ubuntu studio??
[23:57] <LjL> magick211: the very first line is the CD-ROM line... anyway, that sources.list is totally messed up (you probably had no Internet while you were installing). it's easiest to generate a new one from here
[23:57] <LjL> !easysource > magick211    (magick211, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:57] <wols> ryanov: BIOS, platform, etc
[23:57] <Tallen> ryanov: aha http://osdir.com/ml/admin.managers/2005-07/msg00005.html
[23:57] <Tallen> ryanov: so I guess I need to make a custom kernel now. well that should be fun.
[23:57] <lukasz> I will look at it :)
[23:57] <ryanov> Last time I tried that it was such a bitch.
[23:57] <theLichKing> hi
[23:58] <theLichKing> i install fluxbox but i can't get the right click menu to show up, how do i fix this?
[23:58] <lukasz> :)
[23:58] <ryanov> I don't remember why, but I remember wanting to just use the exact Ubuntu kernel and change an option and build it.
[23:58] <ryanov> And their build process didn't seem to work on their kernel.
[23:58] <ryanov> Something about PATHs all screwed up.
[23:59] <ryanov> And I came across it in the Wiki or something that said you shouldn't really be doing it, do they made it hard, or something silly like that.
[23:59] <Tallen> ryanov: wonder if the 'server' ubuntu kernel has this PAE enabled?