[00:02] pong? [00:05] well things are almost working [00:05] i managed to get my old xubuntu install to boot. still slow as heck [00:07] oh? [00:08] yeah replaced my sempron and board with a asus p4p800 and 3ghz Pentium [00:11] things seem to be working now after the initial boot [00:11] is it me or ubuntu livecd's extreamly slow [00:12] most livecds are pretty slow. Are you running it on a low-memory system? [00:12] just 1 gig in this system [00:13] are you saying it runs slower then knoppix or some other livecd? [00:13] yea [00:13] well i guess idont realy know [00:13] anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine [00:13] alot of other live cd's ive done are smaller distro's [00:13] but i've ran debian live cd and it went fast though [00:29] anyone tried geubuntu? [00:29] to edit the xorg.conf what text editor do i use? [00:31] thanks === XwarlokX82 is now known as X|Away [02:12] hey I can't get my computer to shutdown using xfce since i installed SLiM [02:12] what is slim [02:13] the login manager [02:13] no gtk or qt deps ... great for xfce :) [02:19] hmm well do you mind trying via command line [02:20] i dont know about SLIM so im not sure how to fix it but if you need to shutdown you can do it cli based with "shutdown now" or "shutdown -r now" for a restart [02:21] yeah that works [02:21] ok well cool but i saw your post on the other channel and responded as well [02:21] sorry if i confude you [02:22] confuse [02:22] i found a solution ... it says to add this to my sudoers file %users ALL = NOPASSWD:/libexec/xfsm-shutdown-helper [02:23] problem is i don't have a xfsm-shutdown-helper file on my compture [02:23] ahh yes that should help sorry but i havent looked at that in a while [02:24] i used it a while back and it worked [02:31] Hi, I was just wondering, if I had Xubuntu installed, would I be able to change the interface to blackbox rather than xcfe? [02:33] yes just download blackbox and it should be added to your startup gui and choose blackbox and start from there [02:34] anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine [02:41] hi all [02:41] im installing xubuntu on my dell insprion 1000 laptop atm [02:42] does it come stock with thunar's volman package? [02:52] anyone around? [02:59] hello [03:00] hello [03:00] i havent seen you in a while how are you [03:00] hey soldats [03:01] hey ;) [03:01] 74 percent so far on copying files to be installed it says [03:01] im putting it on a dell insprion 1000 with 512 megs of ram [03:01] installed e17 enlightenment desktop into xubuntu [03:02] cool, do you like it [03:02] nice, shinny [03:03] you evrer try it? [03:03] rad i like it i usually switch between xfce, cli and e17 alot [03:03] whats e17's claim to fame [03:03] xfce is the main dm [03:03] yes i really like it, its easy to configuire, the help menu is very useful [03:04] e17 is shinny [03:04] i want to experience shinny hehe [03:04] lol [03:05] so far since i've been in the linux world i've not had a chance to use the 3d desktops or anything like that yet [03:05] theres a module called flame [03:05] for e17? [03:05] it adds fire to the bottom of the screen [03:06] Nostahl, in gnome which is standard on ubuntu you can install cssm which is for all the cool effect you can do for you "shiney" needs [03:06] you can youtube it to see what it is all about [03:06] k [03:07] it may interest you [03:07] i've been tryin to run the same distro's on my main desktop as well as my laptop [03:07] letting my laptop decide what i run etc cause its a lesser system [03:07] laptops should run it fine [03:07] me too [03:07] that way i can learn fast if im using the same distro etc [03:07] i have a dell insprion 1000 with 512 megs of ram [03:07] its realy old [03:07] SiS graphics integrated [03:07] 512 is still good i has 128 [03:07] ibm 600e [03:08] it cant even watch video's on youtube [03:08] its so choppy [03:08] Nostahl, there may be a bigger problem then [03:08] i think the hd is on its way out [03:08] Nostahl, maybe a video card [03:08] i was given the laptop couple months ago [03:08] cause it was broken :P [03:08] not the video card? [03:08] basicaly the fan was not starting [03:09] ah well you may be right then [03:09] im using this time to figure out wich distro i want to settle into [03:09] im going to be selling everything i own including all 4 desktops and the laptop [03:09] then i'll buy a nice new laptop or build a mini itx computer once im in alaska [03:10] lol cool , maybe you should build a rad desktop from scratch [03:10] or custom laptop [03:10] i want to build a mini itx computer pretty bad [03:10] sweet [03:10] 4 to 20 watts full bore is lucrative to me [03:10] neur1, how do you like E17 [03:11] eventualy im going to be living off grid once i get my own property [03:11] so 4 watt computer is nice :) [03:11] lol yea [03:11] great just done installing [03:11] my main question about the mini itx boards though [03:11] i seen one it supports up to 4 gigs ddr2 [03:11] and it has a pci express slot [03:11] and a mini pci express slot [03:12] so... could i put a notebook wireless mini pci express in it [03:12] and put a nice pci express graphics card [03:12] and call it a mini gaming computer? [03:12] thats out of my range of knowledge [03:12] 4 gigs yikes! [03:13] its alot [03:13] aye [03:13] and cheap too [03:13] 2 gb is plenty in my opinion but for desktop 4 gb is good for gaming [03:13] i'm kinda goin' backward [03:13] best buy's been having sales latly for like 23 bucks for a gig of ram [03:14] 0o nice i need some i only has 128 [03:14] with the mini itx boards im wondering if the board itself is fast? [03:14] lol i thought the 8 was a B for a second [03:14] im sittin far away from monitor [03:14] see what can run on the least or minimum [03:14] Nostahl, if noone knows id say google is best [03:14] 12 bytes of ram lol [03:14] ha [03:15] soldats what you runnin' with? [03:16] well now i run either xfce since ive been trying to figure out some people problems but i prefer cli but E17 is my favorite [03:17] could be mine too [03:17] E17 just looks so cool. and its easy to cinfigure [03:17] i like the shelf thing [03:18] yuh :) [03:18] ever try geubuntu it mixes xfce and e17 [03:18] 84 percent [03:18] uggg [03:18] cant wait [03:18] how's wireless in ubuntu [03:18] i have a wg111v3 wireless usb adapter [03:19] is there a native linux driver for it with ubuntu? [03:20] !wireless [03:20] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:20] look thar [03:21] lol that's what i was trien' to pull up [03:22] neur1, dont know if you like christmas (i dont) but how was yours [03:22] quiet [03:23] lol me too [03:23] i enjoyed seeing my neice [03:23] don't go for the hoopla too much [03:23] yuh me neither [03:24] saw family , then went home whew# [03:24] lol i almost stayed home all day and drank [03:25] lol that's the way to do it [03:26] another thing about e17 , switching screens [03:26] just drag the mouse [03:27] yea thats a cool thing you just move mouse to one side and it switches [03:28] this was the page i meant to show https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported?highlight=%28%28HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetgear%29%29 [03:28] whoa it's long [03:29] I was playing with xgl/compiz-fuzion, but I decided to uninstall it again - as far as I can tell, I've removed/reversed all steps I used to install it (from the community in topic) - but somehow, I cannot get xubuntu to use the 'normal' window manager, and now I'm left with no window controls - any tips? [03:29] ahh it could help debug and solve a problem but yea it is long but when learning something new you should always expace to read alot [03:45] see ya later soldats thanks [04:02] Hi i'm totally new. Can I get help here? [04:03] !ask [04:03] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:03] i dont know that i can help but ask anyways [04:04] So I'm trying to install Xubuntu on an old 98 and wanted to boot from the CD before actualy installing it. [04:04] I got to the screen but only saw install options. [04:05] Can I try out Xubuntu b4 I install it? [04:06] I belive the first option on the list is phrased a bit odly, but if you are using the Desktop CD (as I think it's called) and not the alternate install cd, the first option is what you want [04:07] I'm using the alternate CD [04:07] the alternate is the install cd (as far as I know) [04:07] Oh... [04:08] It said to use the alternate CD for Computers with less RAM [04:08] (mine is only 98 meg) [04:09] hmm.. the page I'm looking at says: "installs on systems with less than about 128MB of RAM (although note that low-memory systems may not be able to run a full desktop environment reasonably)." - so it only says to use it for installs [04:09] ok [04:09] http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/7.10/release/ [04:09] you can install on less but you wont be happy with the outcome [04:09] (that's a swedish mirror, btw - you may want to choose one closer to your location) [04:10] I think I used an older version than GG [04:10] ya... I used the http://www.xubuntu.org/get#dapper [04:11] my install is still at 87 percent [04:11] slooow install on this old laptop heh [04:12] dude321: hmm.. yeah, I see how that could be misleading... non the less, as far as I know, the alternate is install only - but hey, I'm not exactly an xubuntu power-user :-P [04:13] alright... Thanks for your help FreakCERS [04:13] does anyone know how to set up hebrew input using scim/ [04:13] or how to switch keyboard layout [04:13] dude321: I've been using xubuntu for all of maybe 2 hours, and I've managed to break by window manager like 4 times - currently trying to undo the damages again... :-S [04:13] ouch [04:14] any better ideas for what to run on my old 98 (w/ 96 meg RAM) [04:14] ? [04:15] well.. even if the page says you need more, I bet it'd still actually run 'fine' - I've run KDE3.5 on a 200mzh laptop - sure, it wasn't fast, but.. it worked :-) [04:16] what's KDE3.5? [04:16] (I'm a Newbie :)) [04:17] KDE desktop [04:17] well.. KDE is (compared to xcfe which xubuntu uses) a behemoth giant window manager and desktop environment [04:17] oh [04:19] So you think I might be able to run the Desktop CD [04:19] ? === XwarlokX82 is now known as X|Dirtnappin [07:24] anyone know how I can browse windows shares on xubuntu [08:26] anyone using openbox? [11:07] hi [11:09] I did a minor update on my laptop (7.10, also updated but without problems thus far) and I now have the following issues: the xfce4-panel does not get started automatically and when after my screen goes black (power save) and comes back on the display is scrambled, if have to switch to console and back to get it working [11:09] anyone an idea where to look? [11:16] whyking, just a bug i think, did you post it on launchpad or looked if anybody else has that bug too? [11:17] ablomen, no and no.. I don't really know where to start or what to search for.. but I'll look into launchpad [11:25] would this be a bug in xubuntu or ubuntu? because I only see launchpad for ubuntu bugs [11:25] xfce [11:25] just go to bugs and search for xfce [11:26] then you can look at the bugreports that are already there, and see how to write a bugreport :) [11:26] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386639 [11:26] no fix .. :-/ [11:27] but thats long ago [11:28] as a fast 'fix', you can also put xfce4-panel under autostarted application [11:28] maybe not very clean, but it should work [11:28] (so thats menu>settings>autostarted applications [11:29] well.. but the problem with the fscked up screen remains [11:29] hmm ok [11:32] thanks anyway [13:05] I would like to test if "twofish-cbc-essiv:sha256" is faster than "aes-cbc-essiv:sha256". Can anyone recommend a tool for that? It's for cryptsetup (luks on dm-crypt) === X|Dirtnappin is now known as XwarlokX82 [14:59] bonjour! [14:59] Hi darklink [14:59] j'avais une petite question... [14:59] how do i get the window list in the taskbar to fill up the space? [15:00] !english | darklink [15:00] darklink: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [15:00] sur une mini install la langue française est installé aussi? [15:00] !french | darklink [15:00] darklink: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. [15:00] sorry [15:00] Ou #xubuntu-fr [15:01] in a mini install of ubuntu, the french language is supported?! [15:01] darklink, you can select the language during installation and then, if you have an internet connection, it will install French language support [15:01] rru^, I don't think it's possible [15:02] not on gnome-panel either? [15:02] rru^, oh, wouldn't know about that, you should ask in #ubuntu I think [15:03] prolly [15:03] ok, thanks vinze [15:03] darklink, no problem :) [15:15] I would like to start using software raid1 on 2x320gb drives I will add as filestorage. Does it exist a nice gui to manage software raid? [15:26] hi all! [15:26] Hey [15:26] how can I setup hamachi with xubuntu 7.10? [15:26] What's hamachi? [15:26] anyone can help me please? [15:27] vinze: vpn util :] [15:27] exactly [15:27] i thougt i saw a good howto on the forums about hamachi [15:27] but with xubuntu doesn't work! [15:28] I read the forum but doesn't work [15:28] what how to were you using? [15:28] at home [15:30] i don't know a thing about hamachi and why i wouldn't work [15:30] help me please [15:30] but here's a post on the forums [15:30] someone has got it working by installing gnome [15:30] while still using xfce [15:30] maybe gnome provides a silly package hamachi needs [15:30] ok but I choose XUbuntu because i like xfce! [15:36] massimiliano_: hamachi works fine, gHamachi is the one causing some headache it works too [15:37] ok yes hamachi works fine in all ubuntu except xubuntu...why? [15:38] at least I got it working [15:38] I had to do something but I can't remember what [15:39] please remember! [15:40] so you've downloaded hamachi 0.9.9 or something? [15:40] and followed the instructions? [15:40] yes [15:41] what happens when you $ hamachi start ? [15:42] nothing [15:42] happens [15:42] I had the same problem [15:42] but if I use ghamachi it write couldn't log in [15:42] honestly I can't rembember [15:44] please [15:45] massimiliano_, a search turned up this, might be of help: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://masaki-tux.blogspot.com/2007/03/hamachi.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhamachi%2Bxubuntu%26hl%3Den [15:46] sudo aptitude install hamachi [15:47] hmm, that might solve the problem [15:47] Or perhaps you could look through the dependencies of that package [15:47] But adding the repository is probably easiest [15:49] ok I'll try [16:12] hi [16:12] Hey [16:13] hi vinze [16:38] anyone know why the xubuntu7.10 cd i put in my tvpc just boots to busybox initramfs prompt. when i boot my laptop it boots into gnome just fine === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [17:32] zials: hi [17:33] hiya gerro [18:22] I need help with live cd. [18:25] when I start my xbox with xubuntu live cd it seems to boot and id checking my HDD but after a minute when the login screen should appear there is only a black screen and I cant do something. Can someone help me? [18:31] when I start my xbox with xubuntu live cd it seems to boot and id checking my HDD but after a minute when the login screen should appear there is only a black screen and I cant do something. Can someone help me? [18:37] hello =) [18:37] just installed the first time 64-bit xubuntu version [18:54] where does live cd mode put installed apps? [18:57] why won't flashplayer work? [18:57] Download done. [18:57] md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz [18:57] The Flash plugin is NOT installed. [18:57] yassin@control:~/downloads$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [18:59] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634754 [19:00] on ubuntu flash player also doesnt work [19:00] oh dont use gnash [19:15] Uh, anyone know of a problem where xfce mutates with gnome? [19:23] Resa: if you have nautilus installed, your desktop changes into -> gnome controlled [19:23] I mean if you run nautilus 1 time [19:24] so uninstalling nautilus would fix it? [19:24] yes [19:24] use thunar [19:24] it's a bit simpler but it won't mess up with the xfce thing [19:25] I have thunar already, but maybe nautilus came with the gnome-desktop environment [19:27] yeah [19:28] I guess it isn't possible to have both to shift between [19:48] I am trying to install xubuntu to a decTOP. I need help mounting my flash drive [19:53] flash works fine on my machine [19:53] yeah because it's 32bit [19:54] I have the 64-bit version [19:54] my suggestion for 64-bit... is to give up... To many things will not work. :| [20:01] zoredache: I just installed it.. [20:36] Anyone alive [20:47] I have this problem [20:47] kinda [20:47] when I launch counter strike source in fullscreen, it leaves the bars up and down [20:48] they are ontop of it [20:48] the panels [21:09] * Resa fixed the problem [21:41] I am trying to install xubuntu from a flash drive. I have got as far as booting from the flash and started the installer. The howto I am following is for installing ubuntu from a flash, but this should be the same. The part I am having trouble with is mounting the flash so the installer sees it as the cdrom. when I try to mount it I get a No Such Device error [21:41] bob2001, what command are you using? [21:42] mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /cdrom [21:44] the error I get is Mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed: No such device [21:44] are you sure it isn't suppose to be /media/cdrom ? [21:44] and maybe it isn't /dev/sda1 [21:44] it might be /dev/sda2 or something [21:47] I just tried /media/cdrom and /dev/sda 0,1,2,3 but still get the same error [21:49] what is the output of lsusb? [21:49] !pastebin | bob2001 [21:49] bob2001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [21:51] I dont seem to have lsusb [21:52] bob2001: does the computer have a working network interface? [21:53] bob2001, You can find it by installing the usbutils package [21:53] if so, you could put the minicd onto the usb which just a kernel and an initrd [21:53] yes [21:55] I do not have anything installed yet on the system. All I have to work with is the console and the installation [21:56] the busybox built in shell, nothing else in installed on the machine [21:58] sorry? what did you put on your usb disk? [21:59] if you really knew what you where doing, you could run the setup the painful way manually create partitions and then run debbootstrap [21:59] I used syslinux to make it bootable and copied the contents of the alternet install CD to the flash drive [21:59] because you don't have a cdrom in the computer you are working on? [22:00] right no CDROM [22:00] but you have a second computer that you prepared your usb drive from? [22:00] yes [22:00] this one I am on now [22:01] ok... anyway I was suggesting that instead of using the alternate install cd as the base to prepare your flash drive.. Insteadh use the mini.iso [22:01] ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [22:01] re [22:01] I am tryin to follow the howto at http://jsco.org/dectop/ but using xubuntu instead of ubuntu [22:03] one of the mini.iso boot options is to install a command line only system. If you do that, then after you have your working command line system all you have to do is an apt-get xubuntu-desktop [22:04] I will give that a try [22:05] do you actually have one of those dectop systems bob2001? I was thinking about getting one of those [22:06] yes I do, and I had it running ubuntu but it was kind of slow so I ws going to try xubuntu [22:07] I used that same howto before and it worked [22:07] now I cant mount the flash?? [22:08] http://home.comcast.net/~rtsears/dectop.html is my page [22:11] ah, I think I have been there before === connor is now known as Win9x [23:27] bye === nex is now known as NeX