| dasKreech | Jucato: they threw nixternal in the news as well :) | 00:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Jucato | :O | 00:29 |
| Jucato | where? | 00:30 |
| dasKreech | http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/263161/b6cd41ede0d8629f/ | 00:30 |
| Jucato | ah | 00:31 |
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| stdin | ardchoille: wow, that's some LP page :p | 00:55 |
| ardchoille | stdin: Thanks. I'd love to clean it up if I could learn how to do [http://www.blah.com This is the blah page] | 00:56 |
| ardchoille | instead of having http://www.blah.com ; This is the blah page in the page | 00:57 |
| stdin | mine looks very bare now, and the small bit of info on it was only recently added | 00:57 |
| ardchoille | I see | 00:58 |
| stdin | even your wiki page is better laid out than mine, but I do hate wikis.... | 00:58 |
| ardchoille | Oh, and <b>blah</b> would be nice too | 00:58 |
| ardchoille | I used examples from other people's pages for that :) | 00:59 |
| stdin | I never get around to it, I'd rather figure out how to bounce email around my lan (which I actually did today) | 01:00 |
| ardchoille | hehe | 01:00 |
| stdin | spend the last few mins emailing myself on my server and replying via sendmail over ssh | 01:01 |
| * stdin got his geek on | 01:01 | |
| ardchoille | stdin: Not sure it's a good thing to be talking to one's self :P | 01:01 |
| stdin | probably not, but I get better conversation out of myself than most people I know :p | 01:02 |
| ardchoille | hahahaha | 01:02 |
| CheGuevara | Netscape Navigator, now owned by AOL, will no longer be supported after 1 February 2008, the company has said. | 01:25 |
| dasKreech_ | Yeah | 01:25 |
| dasKreech_ | I posted on it already | 01:25 |
| dasKreech_ | it flooded planet.mozilla.org | 01:26 |
| dasKreech_ | I was liking 9 too | 01:26 |
| CheGuevara | yeah lots of ppl sare saying that they got it with 9 | 01:30 |
| dasKreech_ | Bah | 01:31 |
| dasKreech_ | So starting next year will be the first time there is no Netscape browser since Mosiac was first challenged | 01:32 |
| CheGuevara | yep | 01:32 |
| * dasKreech_ ponders the death of KDE | 01:33 | |
| CheGuevara | oh noes | 01:33 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 01:33 |
| * dasKreech_ shakes magic FOSS dust over KDE | 01:35 | |
| dasKreech_ | that should do it | 01:35 |
| ardchoille | hehe | 01:35 |
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| ryanakca | Jucato: your Post-Christmas Angst made for an interesting read :) | 01:57 |
| * ryanakca never knew anything about it... but I guess you could attribute that to the fact that I've been away for the past couple weeks... | 01:57 | |
| dasKreech | ryanakca: Well that's why he blonts | 01:58 |
| dasKreech | that and to get on mainstream news :) | 01:58 |
| apachelogger | lol | 02:04 |
| CheGuevara | good night | 02:14 |
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| dasKreech | night | 02:17 |
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| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk | ||
| dasKreech | Hmm | 07:12 |
| dasKreech | Red Hat Defrocked | 07:12 |
| dasKreech | well good night | 07:12 |
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| === luka74 is now known as Lure | ||
| === Shely is now known as iRepresentation | ||
| Tm_T | hyvää päivää | 09:13 |
| === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed | ||
| Lure | Tm_T: ditto | 09:25 |
| Tm_T | Lure: agreed | 09:30 |
| Lure | Tm_T: ;-) | 09:30 |
| Tm_T | you're trying to hit me? | 09:31 |
| blueyed | Hi | 09:47 |
| blueyed | Has somebody a dist-upgraded kubuntu box at hand (feisty => gutsy)? | 09:48 |
| blueyed | Then please provide the output of "dpkg -L kde-systemsettings | grep merged" | 09:49 |
| blueyed | I think /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/system-settings-merge.menu would be still installed, but I'm not sure. | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | blueyed: | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/system-settings-merge.menu | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/system-settings-merge.menu | 09:58 |
| blueyed | Thanks, Tm_T. This confirms my guess / observation. | 09:58 |
| blueyed | Hi Hobbsee | 10:58 |
| blueyed | Does anybody have an opinion on bug 50320? (see the screenshot with the patch at the end) | 10:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 50320 in kde-systemsettings "Kubuntu's system settings app doesn't handle file associations" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50320 | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | heya blueyed | 11:01 |
| * Jucato stays away fro kss... | 11:01 | |
| blueyed | Jucato: why? | 11:01 |
| Jucato | it's a very "unstable" app... identity-wise... imho | 11:02 |
| blueyed | But it won't get any better if you stay away from it, does it? ;) | 11:02 |
| Jucato | on one hand, it's supposed to be simplistic, only containing those modules that can't be reached from other settings/apps... | 11:02 |
| blueyed | e.g. the "missing file associations" tool is often requested and I'm happy to just have to pickup some patch. | 11:03 |
| Jucato | and on the other hand... some of those modules are also necessary in some use/corner cases (like this case, and the case of panels) | 11:03 |
| Jucato | blueyed: almost every module taken out of system settings is "often requested" :D | 11:03 |
| Jucato | as I don't personally see eye to eye with kss, I tend to just stay away :P | 11:04 |
| blueyed | Jucato: I see, I'm using kcontrol myself - but apparently kss is the default and therefor should provide e.g. "file types". I can also see that it's easier for the average user: kcontrol is quite messy IMHO. | 11:05 |
| Jucato | blueyed: although, system settings in kde4 has gotten a lot better, appearance-wise | 11:06 |
| Jucato | blueyed: that's the thing about kss. I don't think we really got down to having a guideline of what to include and what to exclude... el (openusability) was only available for one development iteration, and that's all the usability help we got for kss | 11:07 |
| Jucato | blueyed: hm... about the patch now (technical details) | 11:08 |
| blueyed | yes. I'm not sure myself either, if it's better to have a submenu "Default Applications" now (with two "files" in it) or better to have "file types" next to the current "default apps" file. | 11:09 |
| Jucato | last time I tried to readd launch feedback, I did it the same way as slammer did, by modifying the .menu file. later on I was told (I think by Tonio) that the preferred way was to modify the Categories of the kcm's .desktop files instead | 11:09 |
| Jucato | so instead of modifying the .menu file, you modify the filetypes kcm's .desktop file. not 100% sure on tht | 11:10 |
| blueyed | Jucato: launch feedback? or do you mean in general? | 11:11 |
| Jucato | basically any kcm you want readded to system settings. | 11:11 |
| Jucato | that's iirc and afaik only | 11:12 |
| blueyed | hmm.. then I'll leave it for now.. ;) I've just packaged this patch, while creating a debdiff for another bug. | 11:12 |
| Jucato | blueyed: well, there's no harm in submitting the patch anyway. If I'm wrong (I usually am), then at least you have a working patch now :) | 11:13 |
| blueyed | I'm not sure though, if I should subscribe u-m-s, as Riddel should look at it before IMHO anyway. | 11:13 |
| Tm_T | now we know why Ubuntu is brown: http://www.flickr.com/photos/emrahunal/2131208665/ | 11:26 |
| jpatrick | hi Lure | 11:52 |
| Jucato | hi jpatrick, hi Lure! | 11:53 |
| jpatrick | hi Jucato! | 11:53 |
| Lure | hi jpatrick, Jucato | 11:55 |
| * Lure is happy as FOSS ati drivers do desktop effects properly in kde4 | 11:56 | |
| Jucato | yay :) | 11:56 |
| jpatrick | about the lp l10n thing, do we synchronize between projects? | 11:57 |
| fdoving | any of you managed to get xcb video things working in kde4? | 12:05 |
| kenkku | who/what sets ${misc:Depends}? | 12:47 |
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| buz | Lure: for what ati chipset? | 12:47 |
| Lure | ATI FireGL V5000 | 12:48 |
| Lure | buz: funny thing is that it worked in FOSS before in fglrx (ATI just released FireGL support last week) | 12:48 |
| Tm_T | hi kenkku | 12:48 |
| kenkku | moi, Tm_T | 12:49 |
| Tm_T | kenkku: #ubuntu-motu could be a good place for packaging issues | 12:49 |
| buz | ah thats R300 | 12:49 |
| buz | yeah that sort of works :P | 12:49 |
| kenkku | Tm_T: yeah, might be, although I've gotten help here, too | 12:49 |
| Tm_T | kenkku: sure :) | 12:49 |
| iRon | Happy New Year! Drink, Drink, Drink! Bye! :-) I'm off :) | 13:02 |
| pan_ | hi all | 13:35 |
| CheGuevara | hi | 13:35 |
| pan_ | I'm a linux n00b with some spare time | 13:36 |
| pan_ | how can i help kubuntu? | 13:36 |
| CheGuevara | happen to know any programming? | 13:36 |
| pan_ | a litlle bit of c | 13:36 |
| CheGuevara | hmmm | 13:37 |
| CheGuevara | we always need help in bug hunting/triaging | 13:37 |
| CheGuevara | or you could learn how to package, if you are willing, we always need that as well | 13:37 |
| pan_ | I think I could do some bug hunting | 13:38 |
| CheGuevara | there will be a lot to do for everyone in a couple of weeks, when kde 4 comes out | 13:38 |
| pan_ | bug hunting means trying kubuntu and see what needs to be fixed? | 13:38 |
| CheGuevara | yep | 13:39 |
| CheGuevara | triaging is looking through other reports and confirming/denying them | 13:39 |
| pan_ | I don't think I have the knowledge to confirm or deny someone's bug report | 13:40 |
| CheGuevara | well you learn :) | 13:41 |
| CheGuevara | but yeah bug hunting is always needed as well | 13:41 |
| CheGuevara | but for that you gotta be willing the latest development version | 13:41 |
| pan_ | hmmm........compiling stuff if I don't get any errors I'm ok with it | 13:42 |
| pan_ | I would like to try kde 4 can you point me to a tutorial to compile it | 13:42 |
| CheGuevara | you running gutsy or hardy? | 13:43 |
| pan_ | Ubuntu 7.04 | 13:43 |
| CheGuevara | http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php | 13:43 |
| pan_ | I tryed that but most things don't work | 13:44 |
| pan_ | i thought it was broken or something | 13:45 |
| pan_ | I'll boot it from a usb flash is that ok? | 13:45 |
| CheGuevara | hmm what doesnt work? | 13:46 |
| CheGuevara | yeah should be | 13:46 |
| pan_ | some icons are on the wronk place on the screen | 13:46 |
| pan_ | some applications crash for no good reason | 13:47 |
| CheGuevara | icons? rc2 doesn't allow desktop icons as far as i remember | 13:47 |
| CheGuevara | yeah some applications crash, thats true (especially plasma) | 13:47 |
| pan_ | icons from the system try | 13:47 |
| CheGuevara | if you are willing you can compile kde 4 from svn | 13:47 |
| CheGuevara | its much much more stable | 13:47 |
| pan_ | can I install it on top of ubuntu | 13:48 |
| CheGuevara | yeah, you basically create a new user and install everything in its /home directory | 13:48 |
| CheGuevara | so the rest of your system is not affected | 13:48 |
| pan_ | that sounds ok for me | 13:49 |
| CheGuevara | thats hwat i do, then update it once a week to see progress | 13:49 |
| CheGuevara | let me link u | 13:49 |
| pan_ | ok | 13:50 |
| CheGuevara | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 | 13:50 |
| CheGuevara | here u go | 13:50 |
| pan_ | thanks | 13:50 |
| CheGuevara | np :P | 13:50 |
| pan_ | how long does it take to compile? | 13:51 |
| pan_ | dual core 1.6 ghz | 13:51 |
| CheGuevara | make sure you use -j3 where it says -j2 in that tutorial for dual core | 13:52 |
| CheGuevara | will probably take 1-2 hours | 13:52 |
| pan_ | ok | 13:53 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: can you give back kmplayer? Now that the buildds are fixed | 14:08 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee took some stuff again? :D | 14:09 |
| apachelogger_ | <-- is playing poker :P | 14:10 |
| * jpatrick pokes apachelogger_ | 14:11 | |
| apachelogger_ | meh | 14:11 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: I'll need an advocate soon :P | 14:11 |
| jpatrick | for what? | 14:11 |
| apachelogger_ | (1st) xmas package | 14:11 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: richtig, sag mir wann du es brachst | 14:12 |
| apachelogger_ | wb milian | 14:12 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: ok :) | 14:13 |
| milian | moin apachelogger_ | 14:18 |
| * apachelogger_ is uploading PokerTH to revu | 14:18 | |
| apachelogger_ | milian: how is it going? | 14:19 |
| milian | apachelogger_: all good :] | 14:19 |
| apachelogger_ | arrsome | 14:20 |
| * apachelogger_ starts dancing | 14:20 | |
| apachelogger_ | Oo | 14:20 |
| apachelogger_ | omg | 14:20 |
| apachelogger_ | revu is toally filled up | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: given back | 14:22 |
| CheGuevara | lazy MOTUs :P | 14:22 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: thank you | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | bah. | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | there's other stuff to do, apart from reviewing new packages. | 14:22 |
| Jucato | good Hobbsee :D | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 14:23 |
| * Hobbsee --> bed | 14:23 | |
| jpatrick | actually it's hobbsee->goToBed(); | 14:23 |
| apachelogger_ | I'd rather search nu good music than revu :P | 14:23 |
| * mhb thinks it's hobbsee.goToBed(); | 14:24 | |
| Jucato | depends on whether "hobbsee" is a pointer or an object name or reference to an object :) | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger_ agress with mhb, without ; though | 14:24 | |
| apachelogger_ | ruby ftw! | 14:24 |
| jpatrick | yes, ruby ftw! | 14:24 |
| Jucato | hahah | 14:24 |
| mhb | ruby ftw, but without ";" it's python | 14:25 |
| apachelogger_ | mhb: I refer to read it as ruby :P | 14:25 |
| jpatrick | or ruby | 14:25 |
| apachelogger_ | *prefer | 14:25 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: this builds? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: pokerth? | 14:27 |
| jpatrick | ja | 14:27 |
| apachelogger_ | ja | 14:27 |
| apachelogger_ | on gutsy and hardy actually ;-) | 14:27 |
| jpatrick | because I had some bad experience with 1 binary packages + .install files | 14:27 |
| jpatrick | something with dh_build not being in multipackage mode | 14:27 |
| apachelogger_ | never had that | 14:27 |
| * apachelogger_ packages most qt apps without install function using a .install | 14:28 | |
| apachelogger_ | actually | 14:29 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: hod on a second | 14:29 |
| * apachelogger_ is wondering | 14:29 | |
| apachelogger_ | that package already is in debian and our universe | 14:29 |
| * apachelogger_ investigates | 14:29 | |
| jpatrick | just nur it | 14:30 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: nur it? | 14:31 |
| jpatrick | new upstream release | 14:31 |
| apachelogger_ | meh | 14:31 |
| * apachelogger_ has to repackage using the 0.5 in universe | 14:32 | |
| * apachelogger_ is wondering why it is dfsg'd though | 14:32 | |
| apachelogger_ | yay | 14:33 |
| apachelogger_ | package doesn't tell | 14:33 |
| jpatrick | "Repacked upstream tarball" i think | 14:33 |
| apachelogger_ | yeah, but why | 14:33 |
| Lure | oxygen mouse cursors have to be packaged separately - it will not be part of kde 4.0 | 14:33 |
| apachelogger_ | they have removed something | 14:33 |
| apachelogger_ | or changed | 14:33 |
| apachelogger_ | or something strange at least | 14:33 |
| Lure | and I think we should have them in next kde4 RC/release | 14:33 |
| jpatrick | "and removed andybold.ttf which is non-free." | 14:33 |
| mhb | are we allowed to do it? | 14:34 |
| apachelogger_ | ha | 14:34 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick++ | 14:34 |
| mhb | I mean, we would have a different alternative in /etc/alternatives than Ubuntu does | 14:34 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: wrong channel | 14:34 |
| * mhb likes them | 14:34 | |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: wrong channel? | 14:34 |
| Lure | mhb: why not? oxygen guys would be happy | 14:35 |
| * mhb would be, too | 14:35 | |
| mhb | well, okay. | 14:35 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: insanity not here :) | 14:35 |
| mhb | it can't be that hard to package. | 14:35 |
| apachelogger_ | omg!!!! | 14:35 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick++ | 14:35 |
| apachelogger_ | ~part | 14:35 |
| jpatrick | haha | 14:35 |
| * apachelogger_ starts merging the packages | 14:36 | |
| Lure | mhb: something like dmz-cursor-theme we use now | 14:37 |
| mhb | too bad I have to learn these proofs... :o( | 14:37 |
| mhb | no time. | 14:37 |
| Jucato | http://moronland.net/moronia/moron/1023/ "Careless Coding Causes Killer Kangaroos" | 14:38 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: here's a little everyone must remember merging: http://www.lag.net/random/leisure-c.jpg | 14:39 |
| apachelogger_ | lol | 14:40 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 14:42 |
| wolfger | Killer Kangaroos... that's great! | 14:44 |
| apachelogger_ | bah, no cdbs is a pain in the ass -.- | 14:50 |
| apachelogger_ | awful, simply awful | 14:57 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: testbuilding pokerth now | 14:57 |
| jpatrick | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3090/ | 14:57 |
| jpatrick | anyone have any idea what that means? | 14:57 |
| * apachelogger_ remembers that error | 14:58 | |
| apachelogger_ | but I dunno how I fixed it, neither do I remember the application it appeared for :( | 14:58 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: pbuilder is up-to-date? | 14:59 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: that's the build daemon throwing up | 14:59 |
| apachelogger_ | not good | 14:59 |
| jpatrick | really weird how it built here and not there | 15:00 |
| jpatrick | seriouly: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmplayer/1:0.10.0c-0ubuntu1 | 15:02 |
| jpatrick | fails some, success one, chroot problem two | 15:02 |
| CheGuevara | different gcc version? | 15:03 |
| CheGuevara | the bug seems to be in glib though, not in kmplayer | 15:03 |
| jpatrick | I wonder if adding --as-needed will fix it | 15:05 |
| CheGuevara | line 108, 109 | 15:06 |
| CheGuevara | ouble g_test_timer_elapsed (void); // elapsed secondsa | 15:06 |
| CheGuevara | double g_test_timer_last (void); // repeat last elapsed() result | 15:06 |
| CheGuevara | htat looks fine | 15:06 |
| jpatrick | well, I'll try that later | 15:08 |
| jpatrick | first -> new tork | 15:08 |
| apachelogger_ | -.- | 15:09 |
| apachelogger_ | build br0ke | 15:09 |
| apachelogger_ | woohoo | 15:09 |
| jpatrick | ich habe dir es gesagt :p | 15:09 |
| apachelogger_ | mein paket war besser :P | 15:09 |
| CheGuevara | ha | 15:09 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: i know why your build fails | 15:10 |
| apachelogger_ | omg | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | i said those 2 lines are right | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | they are not | 15:10 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: do tell :) | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | / is not C99 style comment | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | double g_test_timer_elapsed (void); /* elapsed seconds */ | 15:10 |
| apachelogger_ | meh | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | would be the right one | 15:10 |
| CheGuevara | so a strict compiler will fail | 15:11 |
| jpatrick | so... what should I do? | 15:11 |
| apachelogger_ | patch it | 15:11 |
| CheGuevara | http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/glib/trunk/glib/gtestutils.h?r1=6151&r2=6185 | 15:11 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger_: yes, but how I meant :p | 15:12 |
| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: like CheGuevara told you :P | 15:12 |
| CheGuevara | well i bet there's a way to tell gcc to relax the standard | 15:16 |
| CheGuevara | so you got a choice to patch glib or your kmplayer | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | I think I'd patch kmplayer | 15:17 |
| jpatrick | since I hardly any idea on glib | 15:17 |
| CheGuevara | glib patch is from upstream though :P | 15:17 |
| CheGuevara | but glib is in main | 15:20 |
| jpatrick | so is kmplayer.. | 15:22 |
| CheGuevara | oh right | 15:22 |
| jpatrick | which will give me problems trying to get a fix in | 15:24 |
| crimsun | depends how fast you have a turnaround. | 15:24 |
| crimsun | if you can provide a debdiff in the next 6 minutes, I can upload it. | 15:24 |
| CheGuevara | mozilla team will want that fix in glib as well | 15:24 |
| CheGuevara | because it was made to fix xulrunner compilation in the first place | 15:25 |
| crimsun | jpatrick: if you're unsure which to proceed, I'd ask pitti in #ubuntu-devel. My inclination is to proceed with glib. | 15:26 |
| jpatrick | crimsun: probably best to ask pitti | 15:26 |
| CheGuevara | crimsun: if glib already got a nice patch system i can give u a debdiff quick, the fix is trivial | 15:27 |
| CheGuevara | it does | 15:28 |
| crimsun | yes, it uses quilt. | 15:28 |
| crimsun | unfortunately, I am now running out the door to meet my folks for lunch. | 15:28 |
| crimsun | if someone doesn't care for it within the next six hours (highly unlikely), I can look tonight. | 15:29 |
| CheGuevara | kk | 15:29 |
| * Jucato never cares for anything :P | 15:29 | |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: preparing a glib now, gotta build test it first though | 15:31 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: take your time, I'm bashing up tork | 15:31 |
| Jucato | jjesse!!!!!! | 15:43 |
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| CheGuevara | bug 179119 | 15:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179119 in glib2.0 "glib 2.15 not clean with -pedantic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179119 | 15:50 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: better tell the guys in #ubuntu-devel | 15:51 |
| CheGuevara | will do | 15:51 |
| CheGuevara | after my debdiff is done :P | 15:51 |
| CheGuevara | and you look at it :) | 15:52 |
| bddebian | Heya | 15:52 |
| jpatrick | hi bddebian | 15:52 |
| bddebian | Hello jpatrick | 15:53 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 15:53 |
| Jucato | happy new ear | 15:53 |
| bddebian | Hi Jucato | 15:53 |
| Jucato | year* | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pokerth | 15:53 |
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| jpatrick | apachelogger: it's not a new package, no approval needed | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | okay | 15:55 |
| * apachelogger dputs to ubuntu | 15:55 | |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11089726/glib.debdiff | 15:55 |
| CheGuevara | check the style please | 15:55 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: looks good | 15:57 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: you recon i should ping pitti ? | 15:58 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: yeah, he'd know best | 15:59 |
| CheGuevara | too bad Hobbsee went | 16:00 |
| jpatrick | no, she'll probably poke you with the stick to death | 16:03 |
| CheGuevara | true | 16:04 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 16:04 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: btw, kmplayer compiles fine for me locally as well | 16:31 |
| CheGuevara | without fixed glib that is | 16:31 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: see? I don't get it | 16:31 |
| CheGuevara | hmmm | 16:34 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: did you add the pedantic patch or is it from debian? | 16:41 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: think so | 16:42 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: you think its which one :P | 16:44 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: arg, missed out the "or is it". Yep if it doesn't have kubuntu_ it's from Debian | 16:44 |
| CheGuevara | kk cool | 16:45 |
| CheGuevara | brb food | 16:46 |
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| CheGuevara | jpatrick: this is really weird | 17:14 |
| CheGuevara | that error should only be an error if its compiled wtih -pedantic in C(XX)FLAGS | 17:15 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: that's basically what I've been saying all along mate -.- | 17:15 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: yeah i know just wanna get to the bottom of it lol | 17:15 |
| jpatrick | ok :) | 17:16 |
| dinosaur-rus | hi all | 17:19 |
| jpatrick | hi | 17:19 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: i think its the -ansi flag | 17:29 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: hmm | 17:29 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: but its irrelevant now, mozilla team is gonna sponsor my debdiff i think | 17:30 |
| CheGuevara | for glib that is | 17:30 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: good, I was wondering what set that flag | 17:31 |
| CheGuevara | should be the makefile | 17:31 |
| jpatrick | ah, I was looking for a ./configure thing | 17:32 |
| CheGuevara | from man gcc | 17:33 |
| CheGuevara | For the C compiler, it | 17:33 |
| CheGuevara | disables recognition of C++ style // comments as well as | 17:33 |
| CheGuevara | the "inline" keyword. | 17:33 |
| CheGuevara | btw | 17:36 |
| CheGuevara | this all still doesn't explain why it builds on local | 17:37 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 17:37 |
| jpatrick | ya | 17:40 |
| CheGuevara | $magic++ | 17:40 |
| jpatrick | CheGuevara: tell me when it's done so I can reupload kmplayer with merges | 17:50 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: yep | 17:50 |
| jpatrick | oh, no, wait, I can't | 17:52 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: btw for the future the flags are set in acinclude.m4 | 17:52 |
| CheGuevara | CXXFLAGS="-ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts $CXXFLAGS" | 17:52 |
| CheGuevara | oh yeah you cant | 17:52 |
| CheGuevara | its in main | 17:52 |
| jpatrick | and our leader is still on hols | 17:53 |
| CheGuevara | we can wait for hobbsee to wake up | 17:54 |
| HS^ | Hello, how do you get OBDC support in Qt.. on kubuntu? | 17:59 |
| HS^ | there are no packages for this.. | 18:00 |
| HS^ | (but other distrobutions have them) | 18:00 |
| HS^ | all rpm though/ | 18:00 |
| jpatrick | HS^: OBDC? | 18:00 |
| HS^ | ugh ODBC .. | 18:00 |
| jpatrick | what's that? | 18:01 |
| HS^ | i always spell it wrong | 18:01 |
| jpatrick | !bugs | 18:01 |
| ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 18:01 |
| HS^ | its so you can connect to mssql databases with qt | 18:01 |
| jpatrick | HS^: file a wishlist bug there :) | 18:01 |
| HS^ | can you post the url again please? | 18:02 |
| jpatrick | !bugs > HS^ | 18:02 |
| CheGuevara | eww mssql | 18:02 |
| HS^ | Im not sure if its a bug. But the package is missing, and it is strange. | 18:02 |
| jpatrick | HS^: it's a wish tho | 18:03 |
| HS^ | CheGuevara, well some have to use it. | 18:03 |
| CheGuevara | yeah you need to file a needs packaging bug | 18:03 |
| HS^ | yes | 18:03 |
| HS^ | is it difficult to make such a package you think? | 18:03 |
| HS^ | i dont see the link though | 18:03 |
| HS^ | ok ill fill it in. got the link. thank | 18:05 |
| HS^ | s | 18:05 |
| CheGuevara | http://www.easysoft.com/developer/libraries/qt/odbc.html | 18:05 |
| CheGuevara | this the one? | 18:05 |
| HS^ | yes it sais you have to build the Qt | 18:05 |
| HS^ | so wont you end up with 2 different versions of Qt? | 18:06 |
| HS^ | the one that kde and all apps rely on, and the one with just odbc support? | 18:06 |
| HS^ | fedora/redhat/freebsd has a package or port thats name is 'qt4-odbc' | 18:07 |
| CheGuevara | you can build it as a plug in | 18:07 |
| HS^ | ok ill read the site | 18:07 |
| * stdin looks at the libqt3-mt-odbc package | 18:07 | |
| CheGuevara | ... | 18:08 |
| stdin | and libqt3-odbc | 18:08 |
| HS^ | nah i want standard odbc, not from easysoft.. (reason is i have to use it for internship, and want to prepare a bit) | 18:08 |
| HS^ | yes thats qt3 not qt4 | 18:08 |
| stdin | libqt4-sql then ? | 18:09 |
| HS^ | that doesnt include odbc, here is the error: | 18:09 |
| HS^ | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QPSQL7 QPSQL QMYSQL3 QMYSQL QSQLITE QSQLITE2 | 18:09 |
| HS^ | which also sais in the package description | 18:09 |
| CheGuevara | so qt4 includes odbc ? | 18:10 |
| HS^ | yes you have to ./configure with some argument | 18:11 |
| stdin | I would have thought /usr/include/qt4/QtSql/qsql_odbc.h was the right include | 18:11 |
| HS^ | on windows odbc is standard included. | 18:11 |
| HS^ | in linux they made seperate packages from it | 18:11 |
| CheGuevara | stdin: it could be, if it is package descrption probably needs an update | 18:11 |
| HS^ | well i have qsql_odbc, so i can compile ODBC programs, but i cant run them | 18:13 |
| CheGuevara | whats the error | 18:13 |
| HS^ | QSqlDatabase: available drivers: QPSQL7 QPSQL QMYSQL3 QMYSQL QSQLITE QSQLITE2 | 18:14 |
| HS^ | QSqlDatabase: QODBC driver not loaded | 18:14 |
| CheGuevara | oh right | 18:14 |
| CheGuevara | yeah file a bug against libqt4-sql | 18:15 |
| CheGuevara | stating that the odbc driver is not built | 18:15 |
| CheGuevara | and attach a sample program | 18:15 |
| CheGuevara | and post the bug number here :P | 18:17 |
| HS^ | ok | 18:17 |
| CheGuevara | bb in 20, off to the shop | 18:20 |
| HS^ | bug number: 179254 | 18:29 |
| jpatrick | bug #179254 | 18:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179254 in ubuntu-bots "libqt4-sql does not include QODBC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179254 | 18:29 |
| HS^ | ehmm i think i posted it wrong | 18:42 |
| HS^ | that sais ubuntu IRC bots bugs | 18:42 |
| CheGuevara | jpatrick: uploaded | 18:45 |
| HS^ | bug #179261 | 18:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179261 in qt4-x11 "libqt4-sql does not include QODBC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179261 | 18:47 |
| * CheGuevara takes a look | 18:47 | |
| CheGuevara | bug report looks good | 18:47 |
| CheGuevara | hmmm i swear iwl3945 makes internet slower then ipw3945 | 18:50 |
| CheGuevara | HS^: what a quick line to compile that test program | 18:51 |
| HS^ | yes but it generates the warning | 18:52 |
| CheGuevara | HS^: sorry i meant to ask what is the line to compile it? | 18:53 |
| HS^ | i built with kdevelop, but if you have paths correct i think , qmake -project && qmake && make' | 18:56 |
| CheGuevara | hmm | 18:56 |
| CheGuevara | g++ -o 1 1.cpp -Wall -I /usr/include/qt4/ -L /usr/lib/qt4/ibgn -Wchar-subscripts $CXXFLAG | 18:56 |
| CheGuevara | should work | 18:56 |
| CheGuevara | umm i mean | 18:57 |
| CheGuevara | g++ -o 1 1.cpp -Wall -I /usr/include/qt4/ -L /usr/lib/qt4/ | 18:57 |
| HS^ | this works | 19:02 |
| HS^ | g++ -c -pipe -g -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SQL_LIB -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/include/qt4 -I. -I. -I. -o test.o test.cpp | 19:03 |
| HS^ | hm some doubles in it but well.. i use kdevelop to that stuff for me | 19:03 |
| HS^ | anyway thanks. | 19:03 |
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| CheGuevara | jpatrick: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2007-December/003747.html | 19:26 |
| CheGuevara | i am off for a bit | 19:26 |
| CheGuevara | cya | 19:26 |
| jpatrick | later | 19:26 |
| TuxMan | hello | 19:39 |
| TuxMan | I'm torrent downloading hardy iso. almost done :-) | 19:40 |
| TuxMan | I'm glad you Kubuntu guys aren't like the Ubuntu guys who make .iso's. The Live CD actually fits on a CD, not a Live DVD | 19:42 |
| TuxMan | Ooohhh.. hardy CD finished burning. reboot time. I'll let ya know if it works ;-) | 20:06 |
| TuxMan | this is just.. wrong. I burned an iso that claimed to be Kubuntu 8.04. | 20:15 |
| TuxMan | IT'S 7.10!!! | 20:15 |
| TuxMan | !hardy | 20:15 |
| ubotu | Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu | 20:16 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 20:16 |
| nixternal | where did you download the iso from? | 20:16 |
| TuxMan | cdimage.ubuntu.com | 20:16 |
| nixternal | did you get it from the daily/daily-live for Kubuntu? | 20:16 |
| TuxMan | wha? | 20:16 |
| nixternal | where exactly did you download it from | 20:17 |
| nixternal | link wise | 20:17 |
| TuxMan | let me find it again. | 20:17 |
| nixternal | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 20:17 |
| nixternal | that is the live cd, latest image | 20:17 |
| nixternal | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ | 20:17 |
| nixternal | that is the alternate cd, latest image | 20:17 |
| nixternal | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/alpha-2/ | 20:18 |
| nixternal | and that is the alpha 2 image | 20:18 |
| TuxMan | Gaa! Now I have to go out to the barn and get another empty CD! | 20:18 |
| TuxMan | I have a barn next to my house :-P | 20:18 |
| nixternal | I take it you didn't grab from one of those links? | 20:18 |
| TuxMan | I'll be back once I restart my comp and get another CD | 20:19 |
| jpatrick | imbrandon: ping | 20:58 |
| jpatrick | better put: main-sponsers-in-here: ping | 20:59 |
| nixternal | hehe | 21:10 |
| nixternal | this kdebindings package is really retarded | 21:10 |
| nixternal | it builds slow as hell, I added 2 more deps it needs, and now it crashes out on the builds complaining...typical | 21:10 |
| jpatrick | something to do with glib? | 21:12 |
| nixternal | no, cuz it was crashing before and after the upgrade | 21:22 |
| nixternal | it has to do with libqwt5-qt4-dev | 21:22 |
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| TuxMan | hello, can someone help me get KDE4 onto Hardy Heron? every kde4 package I try to install says it will break the system.. | 21:38 |
| TuxMan | somehow I accidentally got KDE3 stead of 4 | 21:39 |
| TuxMan | ...hello? | 21:40 |
| jpatrick | https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds | 21:43 |
| jpatrick | security machine doing Building kde4libs 4:3.97.0-3ubuntu3 for Ubuntu Hardy (release) | 21:43 |
| jpatrick | blah, I suppose it was a slip | 21:45 |
| fdoving | http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry1920.html | 21:55 |
| jpatrick | hmm, saw that through planet.u.c | 21:57 |
| fdoving | his conclusion isn't that bad. | 21:58 |
| fdoving | the headline was more scary :] | 21:59 |
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| nixternal | jpatrick: apt-get source libqwt5-qt4-dev | 22:22 |
| nixternal | tell me if you notice anything wierd from the structure | 22:22 |
| * jpatrick does | 22:23 | |
| * Jucato misread that as "dies" | 22:29 | |
| * Jucato waves to nixternal | 22:29 | |
| * nixternal waves back | 22:29 | |
| jpatrick | nixternal: that *-dev.install has no headers? | 22:29 |
| Jucato | nixternal: http://jucato.org/gallery/v/photos/pets/penguin1.jpg.html :D | 22:29 |
| nixternal | ya, the .install's are goofy, it is missing stuff, and there is 2 subdirectories, debian/ and qwt-5.0.2/ | 22:30 |
| nixternal | oh, that penguin is way cooler than my fat penguin | 22:31 |
| Jucato | hehehe | 22:31 |
| jpatrick | there's no libqwt5-qt4-dev in control? | 22:31 |
| nixternal | I deleted it, it gave me a headache looking at it | 22:31 |
| jpatrick | oh, wait there is | 22:31 |
| nixternal | but I know it doesn't work, because you can't build kdebindings with it | 22:32 |
| jpatrick | what error exactly? | 22:33 |
| nixternal | you can't build against it | 22:33 |
| nixternal | it doesn't recognize any of the qwt headers | 22:33 |
| nixternal | so if you remove it from build-depends, then kdebindings will build, just w/o qwt support | 22:34 |
| jpatrick | has no headers in it | 22:34 |
| nixternal | that package should be listed as "make sure you packages don't look like this" | 22:34 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: that package is just bad | 22:41 |
| Jucato | nixternal: may I bother you for a few quick seconds? | 23:23 |
| Jucato | (btw are you feeling better?) | 23:23 |
| Jucato | hm. ok nvm. I'm gone :P | 23:25 |
| Tm_T | Jucato: how gone? | 23:29 |
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