[00:09] <Trigger> hey guys
[00:10] <Trigger> we are trying to boot kubuntu from a live cd and getting no gui
[00:10] <Trigger> well we had a brief but of gui
[00:10] <Trigger> when we were selecting what we wanted to do
[00:10] <Trigger> install and run
[00:10] <Trigger> run in safe gfx mode
[00:10] <Trigger> ect ect
[00:10] <Trigger> any idea how to handle that 0.o
[00:11] <Jack-it> hi
[00:11] <Trigger> ello
[00:11] <Jack-it> someone succesfully installed kde4 on hardy from official repository?
[00:11] <Jack-it> i tryed but seem that there is a dependencyp roblem
[00:12] <Jack-it> libgif4: conflict with libungif4g
[00:14] <Trigger> anyone alive 0.o
[00:15] <Jack-it> i think all are sleeping :-)
[00:15] <sourcemaker> Trigger: what's the error message?
[00:16] <Trigger> haven't gottenone yet
[00:16] <Trigger> we have just been brought to the console
[00:17] <sourcemaker> Trigger: The kernel is loading?
[00:17] <Trigger> kernal?
[00:17] <Trigger> yeah it loaded
[00:17] <Trigger> what is the gui restart command?
[00:19] <tekteen> Trigger: what do u mean "gui command"
[00:19] <Trigger> isn't there a command to retart the gui?
[00:19] <Trigger> or attempt to reload it..
[00:19] <tekteen> Trigger: ctr+alt+backspace
[00:19] <Trigger> kde restart or something along those lines?
[00:20] <Trigger> natta
[00:20] <tekteen> Trigger: or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:21] <Trigger> when we entered kdm restart it said no such file or directory
[00:21] <Trigger> then brought us to a blank screen with only a flashing underscore
[00:21] <Trigger> and then the screen went black altogether 0.o
[00:22] <Jack-it> trigger press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace for refresh kde
[00:22] <Trigger> nothing :(
[00:22] <Jack-it> uhm
[00:22] <Jack-it> what's you problem?
[00:22] <Trigger> we aren't getting any gui.
[00:23] <Jack-it> you see only the console?
[00:23] <Trigger> right
[00:23] <tekteen> Trigger: in other words X broke
[00:23] <Trigger> we got the option to choose what mode we wanted
[00:23] <Trigger> but, then it brought us to the console
[00:23] <Trigger> i suppose so
[00:23] <tekteen> Trigger: did it ever work?
[00:23] <Trigger> no
[00:24] <Trigger> new system
[00:24] <Trigger> we jsut installed the cd drive today
[00:24] <Trigger> before that all it had was bios
[00:24] <tekteen> Trigger: it worked on the livecd?
[00:24] <Jack-it> if you type startx ?
[00:24] <Trigger> hold on we got an option to check the cd
[00:24] <Trigger> so we are checking it for errors
[00:24] <t3hwiz0rd> does anyone know how to check where in /dev a usb modem phone is?
[00:25] <Trigger> quad core 8800 and it can't boot an os XD lawl
[00:26] <padey> :O quad core 8800? :S wtf?
[00:26] <tekteen> Trigger: install the system using safe graphics mode on the live cd.
[00:26] <Trigger> k
[00:26] <tekteen> !ohmy| padey
[00:26] <ubotu> padey: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:26] <Trigger> padey it is intel quad core 2.4 ghz
[00:26] <Trigger> and it has an 8800 XD
[00:26] <tekteen> Trigger: nice
[00:26] <Trigger> its not sli'd 4 ways although that would be epic XD
[00:26] <padey> isn't it a 6600? :P
[00:26] <weedar_> Trigger: Could be motherboard-issue or video-related, can we get the specs? :)
[00:26] <Trigger> yes my brother got it
[00:26] <Trigger> custom built
[00:27] <Trigger> nforce 680i mobo
[00:27] <tekteen> Trigger: install in safe graphics mode
[00:27] <Trigger> we will after the integrity of the cd is done checking XD
[00:27] <Trigger> well he custom built it
[00:27] <Trigger> and now we are attempting to install an os
[00:27] <Trigger> and we aren't fans of whinedows.
[00:27] <Trigger> now we are trying safe graphics mode
[00:28] <Trigger> and its installing in safe gfx mode XD
[00:28] <padey> there is no such thing as quade core 8800 :/
[00:28] <Trigger> i just explained taht
[00:28] <padey> quad*
[00:28] <Trigger> i said it was quad intel 2.4 ghz
[00:28] <Trigger> and single 88000
[00:28] <Trigger> although sli 4 ways with 8800 would be epic XD
[00:29] <padey> oh, got it now :P
[00:29] <padey> missunderstood
[00:29] <Trigger> tekteen no i'm not
[00:29] <tekteen> ok
[00:29] <Trigger> and it won't let me message you back in XD
[00:29] <tekteen> I know someone alot like u
[00:29] <Trigger> lol ignorant and attempting things way over his level of comprehension?
[00:30] <Trigger> yay gui! XD
[00:30] <Trigger> now i should probably ditch whinedows on my laptop >.<
[00:31] <tekteen> Trigger: I have a dual boot
[00:31] <Trigger> lol i dunno why i dislike windows so much these days but, the more time goes on the more i dislike it
[00:31] <Trigger> any particular reason for dual booting?
[00:31] <tekteen> Trigger: I have not used windows since I bought my laptop
[00:32] <tekteen> Trigger:1 month
[00:32] <Trigger> out of curiosity are there any linux districts that offer more battery life then windows?
[00:32] <tekteen> Trigger: I still have it though
[00:32] <the-erm> ... if you're not a gamer, and you're comfortable with linux, then having windows on a machine is a waste of time.
[00:33] <Trigger> lol unfortunately i'm a gamer
[00:33] <Trigger> although i don't know for how much longer on my laptop XD
[00:33] <Trigger> its good but, laptops go out of date for gaming fairly fast
[00:33] <padey> what kind of games do you play?
[00:34] <Trigger> right now oblivion, fear, guild wars
[00:34] <padey> most 3d shooters are playable on linux
[00:34] <tekteen> Need to go. Dad is showing me how to install rhel on a server
[00:34] <padey> those are some heavy games for a laptop :O
[00:34] <Trigger> hm doesn't wine offer playing windows games without a lose of performance?
[00:34] <Trigger> : D
[00:34] <Trigger> i got this laptop a year ago
[00:34] <Trigger> but, i got it pretty good
[00:35] <Trigger> although now you can get the same thing for 1k less >><
[00:35] <Trigger> dual core 2.16 ghz proccessors 2 gig ram and mobile 1600 ati card
[00:35] <Trigger> 100 gig hard drive
[00:35] <padey> that's actually pretty good
[00:35] <Trigger> on a 15 inch moniter XD
[00:36] <Trigger> yeah i know its still up to date
[00:36] <Trigger> but, now you can get the same rig for 1500 or so
[00:36] <Trigger> instead of the 2600 i paid XD
[00:36] <padey> I wouldn't really rely on wine for my games
[00:36] <Trigger> but, i got it for college >.<
[00:36] <the-erm> Coding is my game.
[00:36] <Trigger> but, i now have a huge inferiority complex >.<
[00:37] <the-erm> Ok .. solitare.
[00:37] <Trigger> despite my laptop being pretty good
[00:37] <Trigger> my bro has 2.4 ghz quad core
[00:37] <Trigger> 8800 oced out the box gfx card
[00:37] <Trigger> which is something i find stupid
[00:37] <Trigger> but, it was the cheapest one XD
[00:37] <the-erm> I wouldn't mind owing a laptop
[00:37] <Trigger> I just fail to see how something bought from the factory can be bought 'pre over clocked'
[00:38] <Trigger> since the factory determines the clock speed to begin with XD
[00:38] <the-erm> Even a cheapo $500 laptop with wi-fi would be nice.
[00:38] <jhutchins> Trigger Should be pretty obvious.
[00:38] <Trigger> lol yeah
[00:38] <Trigger> i suppose
[00:38] <jhutchins> Trigger: The factory that makes the chips is not the factory that makes teh computer.
[00:38] <Trigger> lol my brother bought the gfx card seperate though
[00:39] <Trigger> and when he bought it he bought it "over clocked"
[00:39] <jhutchins> Trigger: You're not buying Intell laptops, and even if you were they wouldn't be the same.
[00:39] <Trigger> wait
[00:39] <jhutchins> Yes, I saw that.
[00:39] <shadowhywind> hay all i just did a fresh install of kubuntu and tried to install firefox, but all that is showing up is 1.5pre is there anyway to update that?
[00:39] <Trigger> we are talking about an 8800 desktop
[00:40] <jhutchins> A few companies do that, offer an overclocked chip.  Some even sell the overclocked chip as actually being a faster chip.
[00:40] <padey> yupp, try checking all of the repo boxes
[00:40] <Trigger> well i could understand them saying "selling faster chip"
[00:40] <Trigger> but, to me it just seems a bit illogical to say its "over clocked"
[00:40] <jhutchins> Trigger: How about if we go back on-topic, or to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[00:40] <Trigger> oh sorry >.<
[00:41] <Trigger> right now i'm just waiting on kubuntu to finish installing
[00:41] <Trigger> i'll be quiet till i have another problem or need more assistence
[00:44] <DarkTan_> how might i apt-get  wireless
[00:44] <DarkTan_> -tools?
[00:48] <stdin> DarkTan_: what do you mean?
[00:50] <vv> hi
[00:50] <miles_> has anyone successfuly installed Gutsy on an Intel mobo with p35 chipset?
[00:51] <DarkTan_> i going through the direction on setting up the wireless, i think i have it figured out
[00:59] <andreskru> hello
[00:59] <Dr_willis> hi
[01:00] <andreskru> why the there is no notification (blink) in taskbar when i rceive a new mensage in emensene?
[01:01]  * Dr_willis has no idea what emensene is.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:01] <Dr_willis> !info emensene
[01:01] <ubotu> Package emensene does not exist in gutsy
[01:02] <andreskru> nou..
[01:02] <andreskru> its a msn client
[01:02] <sourcemaker> !kopete
[01:02] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[01:03] <andreskru> when i turn on compiz the nofications dont blink
[01:03] <padey> kopete won't connect to msn for me :(
[01:03] <sourcemaker> #kopete
[01:03] <padey> does anyone know how to fix kopete msn problem?
[01:04] <ardchoille> padey: It's a known bug, need to update:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <DarkTan_> argg....still can't get the wireless card to work
[01:04] <padey> already updated, still didn't help
[01:04] <sourcemaker> padey: which version are you using?
[01:05] <DarkTan_> where can i get the wireless toold package found in this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[01:05] <padey> 0.12.7
[01:05] <sourcemaker> padey: that's the last stable version...
[01:05] <sourcemaker> padey: ask the dev team on #kopete
[01:06] <ardchoille> padey: Weird, I'm using that version and an update fixed it
[01:06] <sourcemaker> padey: Maybe you have to reconfigure you MSN account after update...?
[01:07] <DarkTan_> !wireless_tools
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless_tools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <DarkTan_> bah
[01:08] <Dr_willis> humbug!
[01:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:08] <padey> I'll try reconfiguring
[01:09] <padey> nope, still doesn't work
[01:10] <sourcemaker> !info wireless_tools
[01:10] <ubotu> Package wireless_tools does not exist in gutsy
[01:10] <ardchoille> padey: Does it crash?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[01:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:10] <ardchoille> !info wireless-tools | sourcemaker
[01:10] <ubotu> sourcemaker: wireless-tools: Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions. In component main, is important. Version 29~pre20-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 109 kB, installed size 340 kB
[01:11] <DarkTan_> arrg still
[01:11] <Pieman> arrg still DESU DESU 4CHAN.ORG
[01:11] <BluesKaj> !shout | Pieman
[01:11] <ubotu> Pieman: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:12] <dirty_harry> hi
[01:12] <sourcemaker> hi
[01:13] <sourcemaker> !!
[01:13] <sourcemaker> !ubotu
[01:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:13] <padey> ardchoille yupp it does
[01:24] <sourcemaker> Is this the right command to build a depian package for custom kernels: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=386 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image?
[01:25] <tekteen> sourcemaker: isn't it dpkg-build?
[01:25] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile will help
[01:25] <biovore> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[01:26] <biovore> make-kpkg clean
[01:26] <biovore>  fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers
[01:27] <sourcemaker> biovore: yes... I have just read the documentation
[01:29] <sourcemaker> how can I read the UUID of my harddisk?
[01:31] <crimsun> vol_id -u
[01:34] <sourcemaker> crimsun: wow... thanks
[01:51] <sourcemaker> crimsun: it's compiling
[01:52] <gman> My wireless card doesn't have interface when it is even enabled.
[01:53] <gman> Please help me.
[01:55] <ardchoille> !help  | gman
[01:55] <ubotu> gman: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:55] <ardchoille> oops
[01:55] <ardchoille> gman: Help with what?
[01:55] <gman> My wireless card.
[01:55] <ardchoille> !wireless | gman Have you seen this page?
[01:55] <ubotu> gman Have you seen this page?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:56] <sourcemaker> Should the kernel timer frequency not 1000HZ for a desktop system? Why is it not default in the kubuntu kernel?
[01:56] <gman> Yes, I have.
[01:56] <haygus> hi
[01:56] <ardchoille> hi haygus
[01:56] <haygus> i have some problems
[01:57] <haygus> im french if i make some mistakes sry
[01:57] <ardchoille> haygus: No problem. What do you need help with?
[01:57] <gman> ubotu: yes, I have.
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes, i have. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <haygus> http://haygus.free.fr/K/capture1.png
[01:57] <haygus> on the right bottom
[01:57] <haygus> we can see 2 icons but they are align
[01:58] <haygus> before they are 2 per colluns
[01:58] <haygus> ok i find it
[01:58] <haygus> sry
[01:58] <notv> can i get some help with accessing networks on samba?
[01:58] <keenan_the_duck> hello
[01:59] <ardchoille> haygus: Fixed?
[01:59] <sourcemaker> !samba
[01:59] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:59] <haygus> i have an other probleme i think with X server
[01:59] <notv> the computer name shows up but then it says the file or folder does not exist
[02:00] <gman> I need help with my Wireless card. It is enabled, but it has no interface.
[02:00] <ardchoille> haygus: What is the problem with x server?
[02:00] <keenan_the_duck> can someone help me mount a Windows partition?
[02:00] <haygus> if you see my pictures with the real size 1:1
[02:01] <haygus> writings quality "sucks"
[02:01] <haygus> not good quality
[02:01] <keenan_the_duck> I'm trying to manually mount it by changing fstab, but I'm not if it's /dev/sdaX/, or /dev/hdaX/
[02:01] <haygus> i have just re installed kubuntu
[02:01] <keenan_the_duck> where I don't know what X is
[02:02] <haygus> keenan_the_duck => not X server it's for other probleme
[02:02] <keenan_the_duck> well, I'm not sure what to call the Windows partition
[02:02] <gman> Is there a reason why you can't get your wireless card to interface after enabling the firmware?
[02:02] <keenan_the_duck> I don't know what the different between sda and hda is
[02:03] <haygus> when it's in italic it's very bad quality
[02:03] <ardchoille> haygus: Have you tired changing fonts?
[02:03] <ardchoille> *tried
[02:03] <notv> im having troubles accessing files over a network using samba
[02:04] <haygus> no
[02:04] <keenan_the_duck> what's wrong with Samba?
[02:04] <ardchoille> haygus: Try changing fonts and see if that helps
[02:05] <intelikey> i need a grub guru
[02:05] <intelikey> any takers ?
[02:06] <haygus> it's quite better but i see  some trouble
[02:06] <intelikey> all i can get out of grub-install is an error message "/dev/hda1 has no corresponding bios drive"
[02:06] <haygus> but before it was very good i change anything
[02:06] <intelikey> or not hda1 but hda
[02:07] <AmyRose> Hi MrGreencastle
[02:07] <MrGreencastle> Help, I want to try out rc2 of KDE 4. I'm on ubuntu 7.10 and have added the repo. I get a "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kdebugdialog', which is also in package kdebase-bin"        (Copy-pasted)
[02:07] <keenan_the_duck> do you know the difference between hda and sda?
[02:07] <MrGreencastle> Hehe. hi
[02:07] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck slightly
[02:07]  * AmyRose has never seen MrGreencastle before in her life =P
[02:08] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck so what am i missing here ?
[02:08] <keenan_the_duck> I'm trying to mount my Windows partition, but I'm not sure how to edit the fstab file, because I don't know which one is the Windows partition
[02:09] <intelikey> btw i did check hd[a-d] just to make sure it was hda
[02:09] <intelikey> keenan_the_duck cat /proc/partitions    or sudo fdisk -l
[02:09] <keenan_the_duck> I'm sort of a noob, I can't help you
[02:09] <MrGreencastle> Any ideas? I am unable to use apt at all.
[02:09] <intelikey> sok  i can help you.
[02:09] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: OK, what package is failing to install?
[02:09] <AmyRose> You didn't give us that info
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> Oh sorry
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> One sec, lemme run it again
[02:10] <keenan_the_duck> ohh, cool
[02:10] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Please. :)
[02:10] <intelikey> AmyRose looks like kdebase-bin  from his error message
[02:10] <MrGreencastle> kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[02:10] <AmyRose> intelikey: No, that's the one that's already installed that's preventing the one from installing
[02:11] <intelikey> yes i see that now.
[02:11] <MrGreencastle> I just needa way to get rid of it. Thats what its yelling at me about
[02:11] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: There is a way to force it to install anyway, but we'd prefer to avoid that
[02:12] <MrGreencastle> I didn't do that - didn't want it to break further
[02:12] <AmyRose> I know
[02:13] <intelikey> MrGreencastle if you just need a reset, close the kde4 repos and   "sudo apt-get remove --purge kde* && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "
[02:13] <AmyRose> intelikey: Wouldn't that screw it up if you're running KDE?
[02:13] <MrGreencastle> I'm not running KDE, I'm using Gnome
[02:14] <MrGreencastle> I want to test out the rc2 of Kde4
[02:14] <intelikey> so in the grub shell    grub> install (hd0,0)    should setup hda1 as the grub root   no?
[02:14] <MrGreencastle> I'm not a kde user by any means. But it looks very intriguing
[02:14] <intelikey> AmyRose no. the inram copy would remain until the process was complete anyway.
[02:14] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Oh, OK, then intelikey's method would be perfectly safe for you.
[02:14]  * AmyRose is a DEVOTED KDE user
[02:15] <intelikey> stdin_ just the grubby fellow i'm looking for.
[02:15] <AmyRose> intelikey: It would give me problems since I install the full version of KDE, not just Kubuntu's stripped version
[02:15] <MrGreencastle> I actually prefer KDE, but am so used to Gnome that I was really waiting for a release candidate of kde 4 to switch
[02:15] <intelikey> AmyRose you could change the last word to kde and it whould work.
[02:15] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: How did you get used to GNOME?
[02:16] <AmyRose> intelikey: I would instead add "kde" to the end =P
[02:16] <MrGreencastle> Thats what I started on.
[02:16] <Dr_willis> thats like getting used to having your hands tied. :)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> or missing a few fingers.
[02:16]  * AmyRose laughs
[02:16] <stdin> intelikey: yeah?
[02:16] <AmyRose> SO true, Dr_willis
[02:16] <MrGreencastle> Will I be able to get kde 4 on there afterwards?
[02:16] <intelikey> Dr_willis or a wheel chair
[02:16] <Dr_willis> but wearing nice gloves. :)
[02:16] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Sure
[02:16] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Your problem seems to be caused by a package conflict between KDE 3 and KDE 4
[02:17] <MrGreencastle> Yeah, but I can't even remove kde 3
[02:18] <MrGreencastle> Where I'm at now
[02:18] <intelikey> i really do need to get grub installed on that lappy before i give it back to the owner...    nobody have clue-by-four for me ?
[02:18] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: Let me find you a complete KDE removal guide to fix your troubles
[02:19] <AmyRose> MrGreencastle: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:19] <AmyRose> I use their guides to remove GNOME and XFCE remnants all the time
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> It still gives me the dependency error for kdebase.
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> I can't use apt at all
[02:20] <AmyRose> OK... let's try this
[02:20] <MrGreencastle> kdebase-bin, sorry
[02:20] <AmyRose> What is the package that's causin the error?
[02:20] <AmyRose> causing*
[02:20] <AmyRose> You're going to have to purge that, then proceed
[02:20] <AmyRose> with removing
[02:21] <MrGreencastle> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kdebugdialog', which is also in package kdebase-bin "   Is the error I get, and its after it tries to install kdebase-runtime-bin=kde4
[02:21] <MrGreencastle> -kde4*
[02:22] <AmyRose> OK
[02:22] <AmyRose> Try sudo aptitude purge kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[02:22] <stdin> !brokenkde4
[02:22] <ubotu> If you're having trouble installing KDE4, in a !Terminal run: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | grep "4:3.97.0" |awk '{print $2}') » then run « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » - After that install KDE4 as normal
[02:22] <stdin> MrGreencastle: do that ^ then make sure you install the updated kdebase-bin and try again
[02:26] <thomas__> hello
[02:26] <MrGreencastle> Alright, looks like that worked thanks. Looking forward to joining KDE!
[02:27] <thomas__> overall I'm very happy with Kubuntu...
[02:28] <AmyRose> thomas__: But...?
[02:28] <intelikey> grub-install /dev/hda    '/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."   anyone have a clue why i'm getting that error ?
[02:28] <thomas__> but usplash doesn't work, and from my RTFMing, 1) I can't fix it and 2) it sounds as tho it's never worked for anybody
[02:29] <thomas__> AmyRose: or am I just not RTFMing the right source?
[02:30] <stdin> intelikey: check /boot/grub/device.map has an entry for it, like "(hd0)   /dev/hda"
[02:31] <intelikey> stdin there isn't any /boot/grub yet  i'm trying to install it
[02:31] <thomas__> AmyRose: any ideas?
[02:32] <AmyRose> thomas__: I don't use usplash--just the "pretty colours" in text mode :D
[02:32] <stdin> intelikey: try "grub-install --recheck /dev/hda" maybe
[02:33] <intelikey> stdin ok made a device.map   now it says can't fine device for /boot
[02:33] <intelikey>  /boot is on the root fs
[02:33] <stdin> it probably wants --root-directory=/boot  (it shouldn't though)
[02:33] <family> I'm trying to do an upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, and have run into some problems.  Is anyone online who might be able to help.  My experience level is moderate.
[02:34] <AmyRose> family: Nice nickname :D
[02:34] <stdin> intelikey: or --root-directory=/
[02:34] <intelikey> testing
[02:34] <thomas__> AmyRose: So, it take it that it doesn't work then... maybe it shouldn't be the default until it does... so how do I set up "pretty colours" text?
[02:34] <family> Well, the computer is for use by the family.  :-)
[02:34] <AmyRose> family: Well, you can change your nickname with "/nick <new-nickname>"
[02:34] <AmyRose> thomas__: Wait a minute... you mean the boot screen?
[02:34] <family> AmyRose:  I'll try it now.
[02:35] <AmyRose> :D
[02:35] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose:  works?
[02:35] <AmyRose> yup
[02:35] <thomas__> AmyRose: no, I mean usplash, which is after boot, before x
[02:35] <AmyRose> Oh
[02:35] <AmyRose> that
[02:36] <intelikey> "could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[02:36] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose:  Thanks.  Is there a way to have it automatically put in whom I'm talking to, followed by the colon?  I'm not an IRC-savvy person ---yet!  :-)
[02:36] <AmyRose> thomas__: It just works for me on my laptop, but on my old computer, I just disabled it because it screws up the boot screen
[02:36] <intelikey> let me make sure the device nodes exist
[02:36] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Yes, type the first part of the name, like a few letters, then hit Tab until it ends up on the one you want
[02:36] <intelikey> yeah device nodes exist
[02:36] <intelikey> i have no clue what is wrong with this thing
[02:37] <stdin> intelikey: try /dev/hda1 instead of /dev/hda ?
[02:37] <intelikey> did no luck
[02:37] <stdin> have you tried installing from the grub shell?
[02:37] <intelikey> exact same message
[02:37] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Great!
[02:37] <thomas__> AmyRose: for me, the screen goes into powersaver, and I cross my fingers hoping that the system is booting ok...
[02:37] <intelikey> yes stdin but to no avail
[02:37] <AmyRose> thomas__: Then you should really disable it
[02:38] <intelikey> stdin if you care to walk me through it i'll try grub shell again
[02:38] <AmyRose> thomas__: Or change the screen resolution
[02:38] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: What's a "CTCP VERSION"?
[02:38] <NickPresta> I'm getting a new graphics card tomorrow and with it, I need to use the latest nvidia drivers. What do I need to do to prepare this computer for tomorrow? I know I should uninstall the current drivers and go back to the default, `nv` drivers. I have also downloaded the .run file for installation tomorrow. What else is needed? Thanks.
[02:38] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Me spying on what IRC client you're using :D
[02:39] <stdin> intelikey: it should be "root (hd0,0)\n setup (hd0)" from what I remember
[02:39] <thomas__> AmyRose: ok, thanks...
[02:39] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: I prefer Konversation over ksirc
[02:39] <AmyRose> It's the only IRC client I've ever used that makes decent use of the fact that you have a mouse/trackpad
[02:40] <stdin> intelikey: and/or "install (hd0,0)"
[02:40] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Fine by me.  I'll try Konversation later; right now I had adept-installer crash while updating to 7.10, and I'm a bit nervous about things working.
[02:40] <AmyRose> while still letting you use the keyboard for everything
[02:40] <ronnie_> hi everyone : )  just wondering whats a good printer thats easily recognized , I'm running on kubuntu 7.10, I've read alot of bad comments on lexmarks so i'll stay away from them, : )
[02:41] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Is it booting up OK?
[02:41] <colorlessblueide> ronnie_: I have a brother HL-5170DN, which has been great for a home printer.
[02:41] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I haven't shut it down!  'Twas in the middle of
[02:41] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: How comfortable are you with the terminal?
[02:41] <thomas__> AmyRose: one other question... I'm tempted to try KDE 4.0 since it's already to rc, and will ship in a couple weeks.... but I'm afaird it'll mess up all the dependancies and hose the box.  Is it safe to try?
[02:42] <AmyRose> thomas__: Yes.
[02:42] <stdin> if you read the instructions
[02:42] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: installing the packages, when it crashed.  I'm now running dpkg  with a reconfigure (I don't remember the exact command) after killing a couple of lock files.   Re terminal, in many ways I prefer it.  (I'm one of the ancient flati; still have trouble with GUIs sometimes.)
[02:42] <thomas__> stdin: do you have a link to read?
[02:42] <intelikey> stdin grub> setup (hd0)  yelds "checking if '/boot/grub/stage1' exists...no" \n "checking if '/grub/stage1' exists...no"  \n\n
[02:42] <stdin> thomas__: see the topic :)
[02:43] <intelikey> "error 15: file not found"
[02:43] <ronnie_> hmm ok thx, I do notice there's hp programs installed, tho never owned a printer so no clue if there ok?
[02:43] <stdin> intelikey: what about "install (hd0,0)" ?
[02:43] <thomas__> stdin: oh, right.... thanks!
[02:44] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I think it was "dpkg --configure -a"
[02:44] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Ah. OK. I recommend doing a "sudo aptitude keep-all", followed by "sudo aptitude update", then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", and keep repeating that last one until it stops giving you errors
[02:44] <intelikey> "error 1: filename must be either an absolute pathname of blocklist"
[02:44] <intelikey> stdin ^
[02:44] <AmyRose> thomas__: I'm getting you the link
[02:44] <stdin> intelikey: hmm, try with the device node then
[02:45] <intelikey> did that too   " error 15: file not found"
[02:45] <thomas__> AmyRose: I don't know if this is really the right place for it, but firefox should be installed by default... or am I just crazy?
[02:46] <stdin> intelikey: did you set the root ?
[02:46] <stdin> thomas__: konquror is the default web browser
[02:46] <intelikey> yep
[02:46] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Thanks.  I'll do that once the configure finishes.   BTW, I noticed that there were problems with the emacs-21 configuration.  Is there a new emacs with the old one gone away?  (Fine by me, as long as my .emacs file still works.  :-)   )
[02:46] <AmyRose> thomas__: No, it shouldn't. Kubuntu already has a browser, and it would waste space on the CD to have two of them by default. Besides, it's not hard to install Firefox after installing Kubuntu.
[02:47] <chealdo> gudday guys do we any available time management software for kubuntu? gonna use it for my internet cafe running kubuntus
[02:47] <AmyRose> thomas__: KDE 4 install directions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[02:48] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: I don't use emacs, sorry. I prefer vim
[02:48] <thomas__> AmyRose: thanks for the link.  What's the adavantage of this other browser?
[02:49] <AmyRose> thomas__: I'm using Firefox at the moment. Konqueror is a faster browser, but it's been neglected since they started really hammering on KDE 4, so I've been using Firefox for the sake of having a more up-to-date browser
[02:49] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I'm learning.  Re emacs v. vim, 'twas the first I learned, and it's been good to me with auctex.  I printed out a vim quickref card at work last week, and plan on learning a bit more than the basics next month.
[02:50] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: /usr/bin/vimtutor ;)
[02:50] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: It got me hooked right away
[02:50] <thomas__> colorlessblueide: vim is model, which takes getting used to, but it's great and you can fly...
[02:51] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: I'll try that.  I have a friend who is pretty much a guru; he uses nano all the time, if you can believe it.   That one drives me crazy.
[02:51] <AmyRose> thomas__: Yup
[02:51] <vzduch> nano isn't difficult
[02:51] <vzduch> perhaps vi(m) isn't either, but the learning curve is very steep
[02:52] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: nano drives me nuts because it doesn't have any text selection features at all. Vim has text highlighting, line selection, and even column selection.
[02:52] <AmyRose> vzduch: Not if you take the tutorial that comes with vim
[02:52] <thomas__> what's nano like?
[02:52] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: No, it's easy:  nano's just limited for a lot of stuff I end up doing.   The little I know of vim --- and its availability --- is what is leading me to try to learn it better.
[02:52] <AmyRose> thomas__: Type "nano" in your terminal and find out
[02:53] <thomas__> it's its own thing? Not just another vi or emacs?
[02:53] <AmyRose> thomas__: It's really easy to use, but it's nowhere near as efficient as vim is
[02:53] <AmyRose> thomas__: Nano is a clone of pico.
[02:53] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: Actually, one of my mailboxes is on a machine that only has pine, which uses pico as an editor, which is a lot like nano.
[02:54] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Yeah, cuz nano is a clone of pico because of pine's license
[02:54] <vzduch> pine is a pita.. and why use pico if there's nano *gg*
[02:54] <AmyRose> Yeah, nano has more features than pico
[02:54] <vzduch> pico came w/ SUSE by default up until 9.3
[02:54] <Ed_E> I have a question...by the way, Kubuntu is presented and operates much more logical than the other Ubuntu's...but anyway, My Netgear WG511 (PrismGT/ISL3886) PCMCIA Wireless adapter works in Feisty and all Gutsy Live CD's...but not in Gutsy installed.
[02:54] <vzduch> and there was no official nano rpm at that time
[02:54] <intelikey> pico is a symlink to nano
[02:55] <Ed_E> Card wont light up or nothing, and it acts as if it's seen and says it exists...just that it can't use it.
[02:55] <Ed_E> Is this common?
[02:55] <AmyRose> Ed_E: agreed with you on the good points about Kubuntu :D
[02:56] <Ed_E> Yeah, by the way...I've found Kubuntu to be easier to use for a newbie, more integrated...by the little things like the Kubuntu logo in places making everything seeming together.
[02:56] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Well, dpkg is done, so I'm ready to try your suggestions.  It had errors with various emacs-21, hyperlatex, and python-mode packages.
[02:56] <AmyRose> Ed_E: That's because KDE is very well-integrated
[02:56] <adz21c> Hey, what is the hardware support for the Creative X-Fi in linux like? Has anyone tested this Beta driver that they released? Is there an Opensource driver for it and is it any good?
[02:56] <AmyRose> Ed_E: Do you have a way of updating the computer?
[02:57] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: So, aptitude --keep-all.  What is the purpose of that one?
[02:57] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: No dashes.
[02:57] <Ed_E> Yeag
[02:57] <Ed_E> Doh
[02:57] <Ed_E> Yeah
[02:57] <AmyRose> well, no double-dash
[02:57] <AmyRose> AmyRose: It's to clear aptitude's list of actions
[02:57] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  I'm looking at the man page for aptitude, but I don't understand the why.
[02:57] <AmyRose> aptitude keep-all
[02:57] <Ed_E> I'm gonna try updating and I'll get back to you
[02:58] <vzduch> AmyRose: are you talking to yourself? o0
[02:58] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Ah.  makes sense.
[02:58] <AmyRose> no, vzduch
[02:58] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: It's because aptitude stores everything it was going to do but failed to do, and try again automatically. I just want to make sure we don't create more problems, so I recommend an aptitude keep-all to clear it out
[02:58] <AmyRose> vzduch: Brain fart
[02:58] <AmyRose> :D
[02:59] <AmyRose> AmyRose: Yeah, stop talking to yourself!
[02:59] <vzduch> o0
[02:59] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  I'm thnking of removing auctex and emacs-21, too, since they seem to be problem children.
[02:59] <linuxlady> I just installed kubuntu and I am new to linux
[02:59] <linuxlady> I just installed kubuntu and I am new to linux
[02:59] <linuxlady> oops sorry
[02:59] <linuxlady> I am trying to install flash player for my browser but I don know what to do
[02:59] <tjodalv> which browser?
[02:59] <ardchoille> !flash | linuxlady
[02:59] <ubotu> linuxlady: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:00] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:00] <tjodalv> err...konq...it's not working...fully
[03:00] <se7en_> is the only place where i can find out something of the ram in cat /proc/meminfo which tells me how much ram is in the box but not what kind
[03:01] <linuxlady> ubotu: I have no idea how to compile the install file from the tar, can you tell me how?
[03:01] <AmyRose> Gee, I've been disabling ubufox and using Firefox to install it into ~/.mozilla
[03:01] <ardchoille> linuxlady: ubotu is a bot
[03:02] <AmyRose> !bot | linuxlady
[03:02] <ubotu> linuxlady: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:02] <Ed_E> Do a search on Aptitude for flash
[03:02] <AmyRose> !flash | Ed_E
[03:02] <ubotu> Ed_E: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:02] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:03] <tjodalv> I'm just using firefox until it's fixed...
[03:04] <Ed_E> Also if you just open Firefox and go to YouTube.com and try and play a video it will ask you to install it automatically
[03:04] <linuxlady> ok
[03:04] <linuxlady> I will get firefox
[03:04] <thomas__> anybody have 2 cents worth about firestarter v Kmyfirewall?
[03:05] <Ed_E> I don't need help installing flash...I've been running Linux before Ubuntu was thought of LOL
[03:06] <ardchoille> Ed_E: But you recommended someone do a search for flash, and they will find flashplugin-nonfree - which is currently broken.
[03:06] <Ed_E> Oook...when did that happen LOL?  I run Arch now, but I run Kubuntu on my Laptop
[03:06] <linuxlady> how do i install firefox?
[03:06] <linuxlady> I put it into ark
[03:06] <linuxlady> and I extracted it
[03:06] <ardchoille> linuxlady: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:06] <linuxlady> but I dont see the icon to launch it
[03:07] <linuxlady> k
[03:07] <ardchoille> linuxlady: Always check the repos before installing from source
[03:07] <intelikey> thomas__ they are both frontends to iptables
[03:07] <linuxlady> repos?
[03:07] <vzduch> so does the 9.0.115.0 run smoothly w/ Firefox?
[03:07] <intelikey> oh sorry that was only 1.4 cents
[03:07] <linuxlady> iḿ new to linux
[03:07] <ardchoille> !repos | linuxlady
[03:07] <ubotu> linuxlady: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:07] <linuxlady> k
[03:07] <thomas__> intelikey: so better to edit iptables myself?
[03:07] <vzduch> I believe I have heard that it also causes problems w/ Firefox
[03:08] <tjodalv> linuxlady: click the K-Menu button > System > Konsole
[03:08] <ardchoille> thomas__: If you can handle iptables yourself, then sure. But, the gui front-ends sure make it much easier
[03:08] <tjodalv> then enter sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:08] <stdin> intelikey: try "mkdir -p /boot/grub ; cp /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub ; grub" and do "root (hd0,1)" \n "setup (hd0)" \n
[03:09] <linuxlady> how can i get samba ?
[03:09] <linuxlady> I need that ot run my local fileserver
[03:09] <ardchoille> !samba | linuxlady
[03:09] <ubotu> linuxlady: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:09] <intelikey> thomas__ i didn't say that.
[03:09] <thomas__> ardchoille: I used to do iptables myself, but then I didn't have a computer for a few years and now I've forgotten how... plus it's likely diffrent now, new versions and all
[03:09] <tjodalv> sudo apt-get install samba
[03:10] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: FYI, installing emacs22 (aptitude install emacs22) followed by (aptitude remove emacs21) seems to have cleared the aptitude errors.  Hope the aptitude dist-upgrade toes well now!  :-)
[03:10] <intelikey> thomas__ i don't normally need a firewall.   nothing running that would open a port
[03:10] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Good
[03:12] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: The aptitude man page says dist-upgrade has been replaced by full-upgrade.  It also discusses "safe-upgrade".   I'm not sure of the differences; if you have time, could you help out.  Meanwhile, I'll continue with dist-upgrade.
[03:14] <thomas__> I'm pulling down kde4 now, put my internet is crumby... if my connection craps out, what's the best way to re-start?
[03:14] <linuxlady> hey i hAVE A sound blaster card on my pc i put kubuntu on now to let you know I am a long time windows user, this is all new to me so I know i have to read a lot but any help is appreciated
[03:15] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same thing. Use those because they aren't as chicken about doing what's needed to make sure the distro upgrades fully
[03:15] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: The safe-upgrade tries to prevent the removal of packages and such
[03:15] <AmyRose> among other things
[03:16] <thomas__> linuxlady: if you figure out how to get samba working pls let me know.... I was looking at the other day, it's /complicated/
[03:16] <linuxlady> thomas thank you I wil needy our help in time with that
[03:16] <linuxlady> right now i need to get my sound working
[03:17] <linuxlady> hehe
[03:17] <vzduch> thomas__: not really
[03:17] <intelikey> lspci hangs the terminal   can't kill it either
[03:18] <vzduch> I used to use Samba when I was in an environment w/ more than 1 machine.. there's a number of good howtos on the net on how to edit smb.conf, which is still the most precise way to get Samba running the way you want it to
[03:18] <intelikey> so does lshw  now i have two hung consoles
[03:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: what's the trouble w/ your sound... I was scanning up, but did see it
[03:18] <linuxlady> i have just installed this on an old computer that had xp on it
[03:18] <linuxlady> my card is a sound blaster esoniq
[03:19] <linuxlady> I don know how to install the drivers or where to find for linux
[03:19] <linuxlady> i am looking for them
[03:19] <vzduch> if it's a cheapo model it should work out of the box
[03:19] <thomas__> vzduch: I'm sure I can get it when the time comes, ... I just had other problems...
[03:20] <thomas__> linuxlady: I think that should work
[03:20] <Novacrust> hmm
[03:20] <ardchoille> !nickspam > Novacrust
[03:20] <linuxlady> thomas it is Sound Blaster Ensoniq AudioPCI/ ES1371
[03:20] <linuxlady> thats the chipset number
[03:20] <thomas__> linuxlady: I had an ensoniq years and and no trouble
[03:20] <vzduch> linuxlady: works out of the box, I have one here myself, never needed to install additional stuff for it
[03:21] <linuxlady> ie had trouble with mine even with the pc i have
[03:21] <thomas__> linuxlady: yeh, ES1371 has worked for years
[03:21] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Thanks muchly.  It's humming away now.  No, it finished already.  Hmmm.  Doesn't seem right:  adept showed ca. 30 minutes to go when it crashed.
[03:21] <linuxlady> i have no sound right now though
[03:21] <linuxlady> :(
[03:21] <thomas__> linuxlady: do you just have one sound card?
[03:21] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:21]  * vzduch has a emu10k1 and a es1371, both have worked ootb w/ all distributions I tried
[03:22] <linuxlady> yes , i mean the motherboard should have onboard sound but that isn working either if it does
[03:22] <linuxlady> but the soundblaster is in the pci slot
[03:22] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: OK.  tried it; nothing to do.
[03:22] <vzduch> disregard the onboard sound if you don't need more than 1 soundcard
[03:23] <linuxlady> kubuntu detects my soundblaster but i have no sound
[03:23] <linuxlady> everything is plugged in
[03:23] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Well... did you try another dist-upgrade?
[03:23] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: (I.e., it finished without doing anything.)
[03:23] <vzduch> checked mixer settings?
[03:23] <linuxlady> yes
[03:24] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Yep.  Ditto.   I'm wondering if the next step is to reboot?  <shiver>
[03:24] <thomas__> linuxlady: did you disable onboard in the BIOS?
[03:24] <linuxlady> no i haven touched the bios at all
[03:25] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Well, yeah, you could try that, but you should have a live CD on hand in case something goes wrong
[03:25] <thomas__> linuxlady: it could be sending the sound to onboard, did you try pluging your speakers there to see if you hear anything?
[03:26] <linuxlady> ok
[03:26] <linuxlady> i will try that
[03:26] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Er, yeah.  Unfortunately, I just remember that I left it at work.  :-(   I suppose I could download 7.10 again, and burn it now.  :-)
[03:26] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Good idea.
[03:27] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: While waiting, I'll try your idea of Konversation.  :-)
[03:29] <vzduch> for use as a live CD I'd suggest something that can actually be used as such ;)   my impression is that the *buntu live CDs are more for showcasing and for installation to hdd, bot not for productive use or more-than-basic system rescue tasks
[03:30] <vzduch> s/not/not so much/
[03:31] <AmyRose> vzduch: Too late... colorlessblueide is gone
[03:31] <se7en_> vzduch: i agree with you knoppix is much better as a "live cd"
[03:31] <AmyRose> seten: Nice name :-P
[03:32] <intelikey> knoppix invented the live cd      didn't they ?
[03:32] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Well, now trying Konversation.
[03:32] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: I'm back; did you have something?
[03:32] <se7en_> yes mr knoppers did
[03:32] <AmyRose> Hi family :-P
[03:33] <thomas__> linuxlady: are you still with me?
[03:33] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: :-)   I guess I should set it up to automatically use this nickname; 'twill take some exploring of menus, I guess.
[03:33] <vzduch> intelikey: to my knowledge Klaus Knopper didn't _invent_ the live CD, but he perfectioned it
[03:33] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Before I forget, I greatly appreciate your help tonight.  Thanks!
[03:33] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: You're welcome
[03:34] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: Ouch!  There's some sort of notification alarm, and it's LOUD.  :-0
[03:34] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: You are welcome to PM me any time here, too.
[03:34] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: PM?
[03:34] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Settings --> Configure Notifications
[03:35] <colorlessblueide> AmyRose: yes, I was playing with it.  I like the audible notification (at least for now . . . .  :-)  ).  What does "PM" mean?
[03:36] <vzduch> colorlessblueide: private message, also known as query among IRC users
[03:37] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Private chatting here
[03:39] <AmyRose> colorlessblueide: Type /query AmyRose to talk to me privately
[03:40] <AmyRose> And if ANYONE PM's me to hit on me, I am going to publicly humiliate you. =3
[03:40] <Agent_bob> got it.  grub finally installed.
[03:40]  * Agent_bob pm's AmyRose 
[03:41] <thomas__> AmyRose: why would we hit on you?
[03:42] <jhutchins> Shoot, she's gone now.
[03:42] <Beren78> so she can humiliate us :p
[03:43] <jhutchins> Did pretty much everybody here PM her?
[03:43] <jhutchins> /it
[03:43] <jhutchins> /them
[03:43] <Agent_bob> jhutchins heh.  prolly not.
[03:43] <Agent_bob> jhutchins i'm not registered
[03:43] <jhutchins> Dude.  Fix that.
[03:43] <Agent_bob> for ?
[03:44] <Agent_bob> i don't msg people anywhy
[03:45] <thomas__> too bad linuxlady is gone, I was egear to fix that sound card issue
[03:47] <thomas__> vga mode question here
[03:47] <thomas__> do we drop the 0x0?  eg vga=37d, or vga=0x037d
[03:48] <vzduch> if you use the hex numbers you need the 'Ox'
[03:48] <vzduch> s/Ox/0x/
[03:49] <AmyRose> thomas__: I get an unbelievable number of people hitting on me on IRC.
[03:49] <thomas__> vzduch: thanks
[03:49] <dorkface> Hi all.   Is anyone familiar with rsync?
[03:49] <AmyRose> They find me in some channel and then PM me. I /whois them and then humiliate them publicly in that channel. :D
[03:50] <thomas__> AmyRose: it's your name
[03:50] <dorkface> agreed
[03:50] <thomas__> see nobody ever hit on dorkface
[03:50] <ardchoille> !ot
[03:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:51] <dorkface> No one is familiar with rsync?
[03:52] <se7en_> !rsync
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <se7en_> dorkface: what do you want to know about rsync
[03:58] <meineke> thomas are you still here?
[03:58] <paperfunk> does anyone know how to share an internet connection on a kubuntu box, using a crossover cable?
[03:59] <Agent_bob> paperfunk yep
[03:59] <paperfunk> i've never had any problem doing it with xp, but i can't with this os'
[03:59] <paperfunk> awesome
[03:59] <thomas__> meineke: yes
[04:00] <Agent_bob> install dnsmasq ipmasq and edit /etc/sysctl  set the ipv4-forwarding on
[04:00] <paperfunk> ok
[04:00] <thomas__> linuxlady: did you get any sound?
[04:00] <paperfunk> can i use apt get to install that?
[04:00] <linuxlady> thomas my onboard won work and i really have no other option but to install the drivers on linux somehow
[04:00] <Agent_bob> on the client set the ipv4 forwarding on  and set the default gateway the ip of the server box
[04:00] <thomas__> linuxlady: you're using kubuntu, right?
[04:01] <linuxlady> yes
[04:01] <paperfunk> what's the cmd to install dns masq plz
[04:01] <Agent_bob> paperfunk there is a good howto on the web  i'll see if i can spot it for you
[04:01] <paperfunk> ok thanks
[04:01] <thomas__> linuxlady: is there a speaker icon on the lower right pannel>
[04:01] <thomas__> ?
[04:01] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install dnsmasq* ipmasq*
[04:02] <linuxlady> yes
[04:02] <ardchoille> Scotty: May I pm you?
[04:02] <thomas__> linuxlady: right click it to view mixer window
[04:03] <linuxlady> ok iḿ there
[04:03] <thomas__> linuxlady: is there a dropdown w/ different sound cards?
[04:03] <linuxlady> where?
[04:04] <linuxlady> i don see anything except ensoniq audiopci in the right corner
[04:04] <thomas__> sounds like no
[04:04] <thomas__> good
[04:04] <utente1> yt
[04:05] <thomas__> there should be a bunch of different volume settings, are any of them mutted?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> paperfunk http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-ethernet-crossover.asp has some very useful info   but i'm still looking for the howto i mentioned
[04:05] <linuxlady> everything is green
[04:05] <paperfunk> ok
[04:06] <thomas__> what about the switches tab?
[04:06] <linuxlady> i see a few dim yellows
[04:07] <linuxlady> two reds dimmed
[04:07] <linuxlady> and one bright yellow
[04:07] <thomas__> what are the dim ones labled?
[04:08] <linuxlady> 3d control, mic boost, IEC958, mix mono
[04:08] <thomas__> that sounds ok
[04:09] <Agent_bob> paperfunk http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html is what's in my history file  but it seems dead now...
[04:09] <linuxlady> thomas i might just have to go out and buy an audigy SE
[04:09] <linuxlady> its not too much $
[04:10] <thomas__> linuxlady: did this card work before?
[04:10] <linuxlady> yes on windows
[04:10] <linuxlady> but i always had to install a specific driver
[04:10] <linuxlady> for this gateway pc
[04:10] <limac> hey
[04:11] <thomas__> linuxlady: ES1371 has been around and working on Linux since... 96?
[04:11] <thomas__> linuxlady: it should work
[04:11] <linuxlady> it won work though
[04:11] <linuxlady> nothing happens
[04:12] <linuxlady> i probably have to buy a Audigy se
[04:12] <paperfunk> it says i dont have permission to write to file
[04:12] <paperfunk> and i cant su to root, this is my first time using kubuntu, but i dont remeber defining a root pass
[04:12] <stdin> !root
[04:12] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:12] <thomas__> linuxlady: lets try K > System Settings > Sound System
[04:13] <linuxlady> ok
[04:13] <linuxlady> iḿ there
[04:13] <thomas__> linuxlady: is Enable checked on the genral tab?
[04:13] <linuxlady> yes
[04:14] <linuxlady> also how do i change the time to stop being in 24 hour and into 12 hour?
[04:14] <thomas__> linuxlady: under hardware, what's Select Auido Device say?
[04:14] <linuxlady> autodetect
[04:14] <edellingham> Ok guys...I'm still having the same problem.  I have a Prism compatible card, Netgear wg511...it's work in Feisty, it works when I put the Live CD of Gutsy...but after installing Gutsy...it never works.  Help?
[04:16] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'll get the clock in a sec... try selecting Advanced Linux Sound...
[04:17] <thomas__> linuxlady: then hit apply
[04:17] <linuxlady> ok
[04:17] <thomas__> linuxlady: it should restart quickly
[04:17] <prasoon> hello guys
[04:17] <linuxlady> yea it did
[04:17] <Agent_bob> !sudo | paperfunk
[04:17] <ubotu> paperfunk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: that's a good sign
[04:18] <prasoon> i need help with my battery '*
[04:18] <thomas__> linuxlady: go back to general and hit test sound
[04:18] <linuxlady> nothing
[04:19] <thomas__> linuxlady: just a sec.. my wife's on the phone
[04:19] <linuxlady> k
[04:19] <jameswf-home> anyone toyed around with kde4 yet?
[04:20] <corporeal> jameswf-home: w0rd
[04:20] <prasoon> can anyone please help me out with my battery on IBM?
[04:22] <Agent_bob> ubuntu alternative to "service" ?
[04:24] <colorlessblueide> I had Adept crash during an update; since then I've been getting a "mime type" application/octet stream dialog box all the time.  Is there anyone who might be able to help me troubleshoot?
[04:24] <jameswf-home> try apt-get -f install
[04:25] <vzduch> !aptfix | colorlessblueide
[04:25] <ubotu> colorlessblueide: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[04:25] <vzduch> dunno if that'll help, but might be worth a try
[04:25] <jameswf-home> !botsnack
[04:25] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:26] <NickPresta> I'm getting a new graphics card tomorrow and with it, I need to use the latest nvidia drivers. What do I need to do to prepare this computer for tomorrow? I know I should uninstall the current drivers and go back to the default, `nv` drivers. I have also downloaded the .run file for installation tomorrow. What else is needed? Thanks.
[04:26] <colorlessblueide> vzduch: I have removed the lock, done the dpkg --configure, and successfully completed an aptitude dist-upgrade.   what I noticed is that, when it crashed, Adept was predicting another 30 minutes or so, but when I used aptitude, it only took a minute or so.
[04:27] <thomas__> linuxlady: lets fix the clock, that's easy
[04:28] <prasoon> i am using IBM R40e with Gusty Gibbon kubuntu edition. on startup i am getting a fatal error in inserting battery. can anyone helppls?
[04:28] <vzduch> NickPresta: under normal circumstances there's no need to download a .run file
[04:28] <thomas__> linuxlady: right click on the clock > date time format > ...
[04:28] <ardchoille> !nvidia | NickPresta
[04:28] <ubotu> NickPresta: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:28] <linuxlady> I figured it out, thanks though
[04:30] <linuxlady> thanks for all your help
[04:30] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'm not sure why your sound isn't working at the moment...
[04:30] <groovesalad> i recently ran "mount -t /dev/hdd1 /disk2 -0 force" to copy files from a windows hd, i also added a line to fstab, i deleted the line now that im done, but now kde logs out as soon as i log in. i forgot to umount it, and i no longer have the drive. what should i do?
[04:30] <thomas__> linuxlady: you hold try the OSS drivers, but that would be a big pain in the behind
[04:31] <thomas__> linuxlady: sorry, that's *could*
[04:31] <NickPresta> vzduch, the package in the repo is too old.
[04:32] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'd hate to have you go buy a new sound card w/out know what the trouble is...
[04:32] <vzduch> NickPresta: are you sure?
[04:33] <ardchoille> NickPresta: iirc, the restricted driver manager can install the nvidia-glx-new driver
[04:33] <NickPresta> vzduch, yes but you're free to double check. I require support for the 8800 GT. AFAIK, only the latest driver (released Dec. 20th) supports it.
[04:33] <NickPresta> vzduch, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html
[04:34] <ardchoille> NickPresta: You may have a point there
[04:34] <NickPresta> =)
[04:34] <thomas__> linuxlady: you might want to double check that you have it plugged into the right socket, and all the little gottchas
[04:35] <thomas__> linuxlady: I've gone in deep on stuff just to figure out I didn't plug something in...
[04:35] <thomas__> linuxlady: did that with a printer once
[04:36] <thomas__> linuxlady: "test page works fine" WTFO!... not plugged, oh...
[04:37] <linuxlady> i
[04:37] <thomas__> linuxlady: the other thing that you might try, if you still have windows, to see if it's working there
[04:37] <linuxlady> ive made sure everything is plugged in. ive always had trouble with this speakers for some unkown reason
[04:38] <thomas__> linuxlady: there you go, you might try different speakers
[04:38] <linuxlady> well i had xp on this computer, and it was running very slowly. itś old - from 99 so when i installed it kubuntu i just replaced windows
[04:38] <thomas__> linuxlady: or headphones
[04:38] <linuxlady> maybe. iĺl try that
[04:38] <linuxlady> iĺl brb
[04:39] <thomas__> linuxlady: fair enought, I've also had my fill of windows
[04:41] <thomas__> anyone else have ideas on this sound problem?
[04:42] <prasoon> i am using IBM R40e with Gusty Gibbon kubuntu edition. on startup i am getting a fatal error in inserting battery. can anyone help pls?
[04:46] <linuxlady> thomas: i just tried headphones, and they dont work either
[04:46] <thomas__> linuxlady: I'm looking into this a little more...
[04:47] <linuxlady> ok wait - i must not have put them in the right area - they do work
[04:47] <linuxlady> sorry. so that means my speakers are the issue - not the card?
[04:47] <thomas__> linuxlady: sounds like it... I'm just glad we fixed this
[04:48] <thomas__> linuxlady: you could try the speakers in a different device, just for sanity's sake
[04:50] <thomas__> linuxlady: that's the trouble with computers they're soo complicated there are too many things that can go wrong, and it's hard to tell what it is
[04:51] <thomas__> linuxlady: does the volume control on the panel work ok?
[04:51] <linuxlady> i just plugged them into my ipod and they dont work with that. the speakers worked the other day with windows though
[04:52] <linuxlady> yes the volume control does work correctly
[04:52] <thomas__> that's good to hear
[04:53] <linuxlady> thomas: no pun intended huh?? haha
[04:54] <thomas__> linuxlady: careful about opening Pundor's Box
[04:54] <thomas__> ;-)
[04:56] <thomas__> well, I've got to go now, wife has some erends (sp?) for me to run
[04:56] <linuxlady> thomas: where do you live? itś 12:00 am where i am
[04:56] <linuxlady> thomas: thanks so much for all your help, i really really appreciate it. you are so nice!
[04:57] <thomas__> Bangsean, Thailand.
[04:57] <NickPresta> That was rather painless. Now I just have to hope that an update for nvidia-glx-new will be available before a new kernel update ;)
[04:57] <colorlessblueide> Can anyone help with a hard drive mount problem?  After upgrade to 7.10, hard drive partition won't mount.
[04:57] <thomas__> linuxlady: no problem, I've been getting help on irc, so I needed to return the favore
[04:58] <thomas__> no e... I can't spell so well
[04:58] <linuxlady> im sure iĺl probably be asking plenty more questions. thanks again
[04:58] <thomas__> best of luck, and a Linus told me, "Happy Linuxing"
[05:07] <osxx> linuxlady: hi
[05:08] <osxx> hey I have an HP printer and was wondering how to get the drivers to work with kubuntu
[05:08] <osxx> it doesn't work at the moment
[05:11] <vzduch> I also have a HP printer, it works out of the box
[05:11] <vzduch> --> 'HP' is insufficient information
[05:11] <osxx> well apparently linux doesn't like older machines
[05:11] <osxx> its an HP all in one
[05:11] <osxx> I dunno the model
[05:12] <linuxlady> osxx: hey
[05:12] <linuxlady> headphones work
[05:12] <vzduch> osxx: you should have a type label on the printer telling you what it is
[05:12] <vzduch> either somewhere near the mains plug or on the bottom
[05:12] <osxx> linuxlady knows
[05:12] <osxx> she's hot
[05:13] <linuxlady> hp psc 2410xi photosmart all in one
[05:13] <homercycles> Help. I uninstalled Samba, rm -rf /etc/samba, then re-installed Samba and it hasn't created /etc/samba again. What can I do?
[05:13] <osxx> see
[05:14] <vzduch> if you call that an older model, what would you call my HP LaserJet 4?
[05:14] <homercycles> I'd call your HP LaserJet 4 a very reliable printer
[05:15] <osx5> at least hte laser will work
[05:15] <osx5> :)
[05:15] <osx5> old reliable
[05:15] <linuxlady> osx5: meebo?
[05:15] <osx5> i'm on aim
[05:16] <osx5> there is a aim type app in kubuntu linuxlady
[05:16] <colorlessblueide> Can anyone help with a "Device lookup failed" message?
[05:16] <osx5> it should be under internet
[05:16] <mrskateboy629> hello
[05:16] <vzduch> I bet it is reliable.. never failed on me, I bought it used, it already had >180,000 pages printed
[05:16] <mrskateboy629> i need some help
[05:16] <osx5> vz either way my printer doesn't work
[05:17] <mrskateboy629> does any one know alot about the kde desktop
[05:17] <vzduch> mrskateboy629: don't ask filler questions, come to the point :)
[05:17] <mrskateboy629> sorry
[05:17] <osx5> KDE is the best desktop ever
[05:18] <osx5> a favorite of mine
[05:18] <osx5> even like it more than osx
[05:18] <osx5> linuxlady is asking me how to register on freenode
[05:18] <osx5> anyone know the commands?
[05:18] <mrskateboy629> i need someone to like remotly control my computer or something and set up my kde desktop so that it looks normal
[05:18] <colorlessblueide> !lvm
[05:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> like video drivers
[05:19] <NickPresta> !tell osx5 about register
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> ect
[05:19] <osx5> !tell linuxlady about register
[05:19] <osx5> ty
[05:19] <mrskateboy629> or maybe a tutorial or something
[05:20] <mrskateboy629> i'm brand new to linux and i have no idea what to do
[05:20] <osx5> its ok
[05:20] <osx5> linuxlady is a newb and so am I
[05:20] <mrskateboy629> or where to start
[05:20] <osx5> skate linux is mostly command line oriented
[05:21] <osx5> most of the auto installers are confusin to use
[05:21] <osx5> i just use the cli
[05:21] <mrskateboy629> what is cli
[05:21] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, ask your questions. try to be as descriptive as possible. We can help you
[05:21] <vzduch> mrskateboy629: define 'look normal'
[05:21] <osx5> command line interface
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> i need help setting up my video drivers first off
[05:22] <osx5> you know in movies where you see hackers typing in a dos like screen
[05:22] <osx5> that's cli
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> thanx osx5
[05:22] <osx5> except they're on Linux
[05:22] <osx5> :)
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> i'm not really familiar with any commands or anything
[05:22] <vzduch> !nvidia | mrskateboy629
[05:22] <ubotu> mrskateboy629: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <mrskateboy629> thanx
[05:23] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, CLI stands for Command Line Interface. It is a text interface to shell. You don't _have_ to use it intensively if you don't want to. However, it is very powerful and is "better" than some graphical alternatives.
[05:24] <mrskateboy629> where do i learn how to use it
[05:24] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, http://www.linuxcommand.org/ is a great place to start.
[05:25] <mrskateboy629> ok thanx
[05:25] <roy_t> hello, I have a problem I hope someone can help with. when I startup ubuntu I get an alert like "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one.", I click ok but it just keeps repeating
[05:25] <osx5> keep in mind most linux auto installers are crap, not near windows in ease
[05:25] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, if you require help with a specific issue, just ask.
[05:25] <osx5> cli is a lot easier and faster
[05:25] <NickPresta> osx5, what are you talking about?
[05:25] <vzduch> roy_t: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:25] <osx5> nick i tried to use the package installer on kubuntu
[05:25] <osx5> had no idea what was going on
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have
[05:26] <roy_t> I have kubuntu
[05:26] <NickPresta> What, specifically, in Adept, was confusing you?
[05:26] <osx5> u have 7.10
[05:26] <osx5> most likely
[05:26] <roy_t> but I ran the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> okay thank
[05:26] <roy_t> then had the problem after reboot
[05:26] <mrskateboy629> you
[05:26] <roy_t> sould I be asking in #ubuntu instead?
[05:26] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, open up a Konsole (K Menu > System > Konsole) and then type: lsb_release -a
[05:26] <osx5> kubuntu is ubuntu technically so it shouldn't matter where you ask
[05:27] <vzduch> roy_t: --> /join #ubuntu <-- won't hurt to also ask there
[05:27] <vzduch> because it's likely a ubuntu-desktop problem
[05:28] <roy_t> no ones replying there though, so I asked here as well :p
[05:29] <intelikey> i need a package management option to allow the newest version of each package on a disk to be installed or set as installable     is there any functionality in apt aptitude or dselect that could do this  ?
[05:31] <NickPresta> intelikey, perhaps apt-cdrom? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom and then `apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[05:32] <osx5> nickpresta: if the auto installers are so easy then how come i couldn't install firefox
[05:32] <intelikey> NickPresta doesn't it need a database   or can it build one ?
[05:32] <osx5> i'm used to mac and windows where u have a setupfile
[05:32] <osx5> i had to use cli
[05:32] <NickPresta> osx5, PEBKAC? I'm not sure why you, specifically, had trouble
[05:32] <intelikey> :)
[05:33] <NickPresta> intelikey, well, if you add the cdrom as a source, it should look for package information on the disk.
[05:33] <intelikey> but there isn't any package information   just the .deb's
[05:34] <oakxx> asd
[05:35] <NickPresta> intelikey, hmm. According to the APT HOWTO page, "suppose that you're using revision 0 of the stable version of Debian and you buy a CD with revision 3. You can use APT to upgrade your system from this new CD. To do this, use apt-cdrom". I don't know if it will build a database with the deb packages. It might be worth a shot. Otherwise, you might have to get fancy with `dpkg --compare-versions` and some loop
[05:35] <NickPresta> s.
[05:36] <jameswf-home> !beer
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <jameswf-home> ubotu: beer is good
[05:36] <linuxlady> i cant access my other harddrive. it shows up under storage media - but no files appear once i click it. itś 80GB, and i have a ton of music on it. i get this message when i click it: your-password
[05:36] <intelikey> yeah i'm reading the man page for apt-cdrom,   it's can NOT do what i need.
[05:37] <NickPresta> intelikey, hmm. I don't know enough to suggest anything other than writing a small shell script.
[05:37] <linuxlady> oh not your -password sorry. hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:37] <intelikey> yeah i will probably have too.
[05:38] <linuxlady> anyone know how i can get that fixed?
[05:38] <osx5> her HD has NTFS on it i think
[05:38] <intelikey> linuxlady internal hd ?
[05:38] <osx5> the other drive
[05:38] <linuxlady> yes
[05:39] <intelikey> add a line in /etc/fstab for it
[05:39] <intelikey> if ntfs  you should use ntfs-3g  i think.
[05:39] <intelikey> !ntfs
[05:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:39] <osx5> yhou need to walk her on this one, she is a newb
[05:40] <osx5> she probably doesn't know what you mean entirely
[05:40] <osx5> lol
[05:40] <intelikey> if just about any other fs i can spit you out a string for it pretty quickly
[05:41] <intelikey> osx5 you may indeed be correct.  but i never assume ignorance      unless the alternative assumption is mallus
[05:41] <linuxlady> osx5: hey
[05:41] <osx5>  hey
[05:41] <linuxlady> osx5: :(
[05:41] <osx5> what
[05:41] <osx5> why  the sad face linuxlady?
[05:41] <intelikey> linuxlady so what fs is it ?
[05:42] <linuxlady> i think itś nfts
[05:42] <intelikey> !NTFS-3g | linuxlady
[05:42] <ubotu> linuxlady: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:42] <osx5> NTFS ;-)
[05:43] <linuxlady> im reading now
[05:43] <intelikey> k
[05:43] <osx5> she thinks i was callin her dumb
[05:43] <osx5> whoops
[05:43] <osx5> lol
[05:43] <corporeal> heh
[05:44] <intelikey> ignorant != dumb     everyone is ignorant to many things.   simply means that they don't know about them.
[05:45] <osx5> linux is a lot to take in
[05:45] <osx5> for a new person
[05:45] <NickPresta> my fstab line, for my Windows (ntfs) partition: "/dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,auto,rw,nouser 0 1" (sans quotes). If you have a line like that, you can simply do "sudo mount -a" to mount it
[05:46] <linuxlady> this is what i got after running the script:
[05:46] <linuxlady> cd
[05:46] <linuxlady> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[05:47] <intelikey> i would change the options personally   s/defaults,auto,rw,nouser/defaults,auto,rw,fmask=113,dmask=002/     but that's just me.
[05:48] <linuxlady> ntfs is inconsistent or you have hardware faults and then it tells me to run something in windows (which i replaced completely with linux)
[05:48] <intelikey> oooops   defaults and auto are redundant
[05:48] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh. Kubuntu puts both by default. Strange
[05:48] <osx5> NTFS = junk
[05:49] <intelikey> but then again...
[05:49]  * intelikey doesn't do windows
[06:40]  * AK_Kenny is away: I'm busy
[06:41] <NickPresta> !tell AK_Kenny about away
[06:55] <Slimbsd> Hello
[06:57] <colorlessblueide> t
[07:08] <mrskateboy629> hello i have a question
[07:08] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, yes, what is it?
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> i have 2 geforce xfx 8500gt video cards and my resolution is at 640x480 or something and it says that it cant go any higher
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> how do i get it to go higher
[07:09] <NickPresta> did you install the drivers?
[07:09] <mrskateboy629> i think
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> i went to that package thing and installed what i thought were the drivers
[07:10] <NickPresta> in your xorg.conf file, what is under the 'Driver' option?
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> i dont know what that means
[07:10] <mrskateboy629> is that a command
[07:11] <mrskateboy629> ?
[07:11] <NickPresta> mrskateboy629, press "Alt + F2" and then type: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:11] <NickPresta> paste that file in a pastebin and then give me the link.
[07:11] <NickPresta> !pastebin
[07:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:12] <Solifugus> I cannot use the upgrade kubuntu, because I get this error:  Failed to fetch http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/deb/http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 198.173.5.11 80]
[07:12] <sistema> help
[07:12] <NickPresta> Solifugus, disable the third party repository
[07:12] <Solifugus> ok
[07:13] <Solifugus> NickPresta: can you remind me where to do that?
[07:14] <intelikey> Solifugus adept
[07:14] <NickPresta> Solifugus, Either use Adept > File > Manage or edit your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) and comment (using the # symbol infront of the repo) the repository for skype
[07:14] <Solifugus> NickPresta: Ok.. i found it.. I will try this again.
[07:14] <intelikey> adept package manager extraordenair
[07:15] <mrskateboy629> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49937/
[07:15] <sistema> I can not open youtube in konqueror
[07:15] <mrskateboy629> i think this is it
[07:16] <ardchoille> !flashissue | sistema
[07:16] <ubotu> sistema: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:17] <sistema> ok
[07:17] <sistema> thanks
[07:17] <Solifugus> NickPresta: seems to have worked.. thanks.. hope this doesn't take long
[07:18] <intelikey> 6 hours if all goes well
[07:18] <mrskateboy629> i think my video driver is nv
[07:19] <mrskateboy629> the other one says vesa
[07:19] <mrskateboy629> i dont know how to configure them
[07:21] <intelikey> well time for rounds again.   gooday fellows.
[07:21] <mrskateboy629> can anyone help me
[07:22] <mrskateboy629> i need help configuring my video drivers
[07:23] <mrskateboy629> hello
[07:25] <se7en_> mrskateboy629: you need the right driver ... the easyest way to do that is to go to system settings > advanced > restricted driver and hope that kubuntu finds the right driver
[07:26] <mrskateboy629> it says i have the right drivers but it still wont let me change the resolution
[07:27] <se7en_> if you have nv you don't have the right driver
[07:27] <se7en_> because the right driver would be nvidia
[07:28] <mrskateboy629> it says i have the nvidia
[07:28] <mrskateboy629> it says nvidia accelerated drivers
[07:29] <se7en_> lspci | grep VGA gives you what
[07:31] <mrskateboy629> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49939/
[07:32] <mrskateboy629> the link has my info\
[07:33] <se7en_> yes i know but since i am on a 21km2 island in the golf of thailand my internet isn't as fast as the rest of the worlds
[07:35] <mrskateboy629> sorry
[07:35] <se7en_> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <mrskateboy629> should i choose nvidia for the driver
[07:37] <Lame> testing out the new Kubuntu nightly build
[07:37] <se7en_> yes and the reolution you like
[07:37] <mrskateboy629> thanks
[07:39] <Lame> my dream is linux will be the os of choice
[07:39] <Lame> and it looks like its getting there lol
[07:40] <se7en_> Lame: than people would have to spend some time to learn about there box and os ... most of them only want to use it
[07:41] <Lame> well its getting to the point that the simplicity in linux is getting better
[07:41] <Lame> and eventually as easy or easier than say windows
[07:41] <Lame> just look at linux 3-4 years ago, and look at it today, its evolving pretty rapidly
[07:42] <se7en_> thanks to all the help form the comunity
[07:42] <sistema>   Kafeine because I am not playing a movie on DVD?
[07:42] <sistema>  As install codecs?
[07:42] <sistema>  I do not like anything?
[07:43] <Lame> i just hope it keeps progressing the way it is
[07:43] <Lame> and possibly grow or "evolve" faster now
[07:44] <Lame> that more people are setting their eye's on it
[07:44] <Lame> with the addition of all the cool eye candy , makes vista and the like look a bit shabby
[07:45] <se7en_> yes lets hope at least the hardware supplier should be more helpfull with diver
[07:46] <Lame> yep i hope that too
[07:46] <Lame> i hear so many wanting to actually use linux when they see a cool video of compiz in action
[07:47] <sistema> ??
[07:47] <Lame> hardware vendors will eventually have to take linux seriously
[07:48] <Lame> and it looks like some already are
[07:50] <Lame> what would make my day , is to see a game at the store one day ,and on the side it says "Linux OS"
[07:50] <Lame> now that would put a big smile on me lol
[07:50] <se7en_> well i stoped to try to convince my friends to use linux because ... "this doesn't look like xp and i don't want to type so much ..." i help if someone realy want to use linux (if i can) but no more convincing
[07:50] <Lame> yea your right se7en
[07:51] <Lame> but right now at this particular moment, i dont think its "ready" for people to adopt
[07:51] <Lame> not the average computer users anyways
[07:51] <se7en_> but we both and many more know LINUX IS COOL!!
[07:51] <Lame> but its getting very close i think
[07:52] <se7en_> yes thanks to windows vista :)
[07:52] <Lame> haha
[07:52] <Lame> yea vista has to be the worst os ever made
[07:52] <Lame> lol
[07:52] <Lame> its embarrasing that you need all that ram/cpu for vista to do 3d
[07:52] <Lame> and with linux, someone with a pc 5 years old can run it just fine
[07:53] <Lame> and imo it looks 10x's better
[07:53] <se7en_> i run compiz and i have 512 mb ram without problems my vista didn't even start
[07:54] <Lame> haha
[07:54] <Lame> when i have friends visit, i have to load up compiz to just make them stare at the screen
[07:55] <NickPresta> Lame, I do that. My friends hate me :)
[07:55]  * flaccid yawns
[07:55] <Lame> haha
[07:55] <Lame> i say..... does your pc do this?
[07:55] <Lame> haha
[07:55] <se7en_> :)
[07:56] <Lame> im waiting for the day i can just format my hard drive and have only kubuntu on it lol
[07:56] <funcrush> I just finish to install kde4, but the fonts are too small so I can't read them. how can I fix it?
[07:56] <se7en_> close a window and it burnes away and they can't close there mouth anymore
[07:56] <flaccid> anything on topic here today heh
[07:57] <Lame> haha yep i would set my flames to look dark blue/purplish and have that after smoke lol
[07:57] <Lame> it looked very cool
[07:57] <ardchoille> !away > f00f|sleeping
[07:58] <Lame> i think what would be another neat effect, is maybe the window turns liquid and splashes away or down or something
[07:58] <Lame> just an idea
[07:58] <Lame> lol
[07:58] <funcrush> or how can I capture a screen in KDE4?
[07:58] <ardchoille> !ot | Lame
[07:58] <ubotu> Lame: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:58] <flaccid> funcrush: #kde
[07:59] <funcrush> thank you
[07:59] <Lame> oh sorry ubotu
[08:01] <Lame> my apologies to all, well i gotta go anyways, just wanted to drop in, thanks se7en/Nick for the chat,,, hope all has a great new years
[08:02] <Lame> alsp P.S. keep up the good work :D
[08:02] <se7en_> :)
[08:25] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a good app to monitor CPU speed for a core2duo PC in kde?
[08:29] <HelloTher> Hello can someone help me please?
[08:31] <HelloTher> helooooooooooooooooo?
[08:38] <bucatoamano> who knows convertIT ?
[08:50] <sam__> Hi, I'm getting nspluginviewer errors from flash things in Konqueror. Does anyone know how I workaround this?
[08:52] <ardchoille> !flashissue | sam__
[08:52] <ubotu> sam__: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:30] <Arv3n> Hello.
[09:30] <Arv3n> Would anyone be kind enough to host my repo for my Ubuntu-based distro?
[09:30] <Arv3n> I'm willing to pay.
[09:38] <fadey> Hi. Does anyone knows where the default gusty kernel .deb package (the one that is on cd) could be found?
[09:48] <se7en_> fadey: i think it is in /usr/src
[09:52] <sahin_h> fadey: Why are you wondering about that? Would you like to download it?
[09:54] <sahin_h> fadey: However here's the lates generic kernel: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[10:03] <selfsearcher[]> hi !
[10:03] <posingaspopular> hi selfsearcher[]
[10:05] <selfsearcher[]> I need to know how to make my scanner Epson Perfection 3590 work in Gutsy :|
[10:06] <ksal> hello
[10:06] <ksal> where can i find libraries for mp3 encoding?
[10:06] <posingaspopular> i never got my scanner/printer to work in kubuntu ;(
[10:06] <posingaspopular> !mp3 | ksal
[10:06] <ubotu> ksal: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:06] <ksal> posingaspopular: i have them installed
[10:06] <ksal> but i need them for my soundkonverter
[10:07] <ksal> i need to convert something to mp3, but program doesn't know where those libraries are located.
[10:07] <ksal> and i need it right now :/
[10:07] <ksal> can somebody help me?
[10:07] <selfsearcher[]> posingaspopular: it's not a question about the format but abuout how to make the linux drviers work in Gutsy. They are epokwa for Fedora (so they say)
[10:07] <posingaspopular>  /usr/lib
[10:08] <posingaspopular> erm @ ksal
[10:29] <andrew__> How do I uninstall the graphics drivers as they are messing up my linux?
[10:32] <TimS> If I moust a second hard drive as /home/ will it copy all the data in /home over from my current hard drisk?
[10:37] <bazhang> TimS: moust? not sure what you mean
[10:37] <Jucato> s/moust/mount/
[10:38] <bazhang> TimS: you want to copy data to a new drive?
[10:42] <Tm_T> hi Jucato bazhang & other kids
[10:42] <Jucato> hi Tm_T
[10:42] <bazhang> hi Tm_T!
[10:44] <posingaspopular> no hi's for posingaspopular?
[10:45] <bazhang> hi posingaspopular :}
[10:45] <Jucato> posingaspopular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:45]  * Jucato is still trying to balance expenses...
[10:51] <TimS> bazhang: Yes, I have a new hard drive I want to install and I want to copy my home directory to it and have it mounted as Home
[10:52] <bazhang> TimS: you want to clone your system to a new hard drive? not sure if only moving home will  do it
[10:52] <TimS> I only want to move the home directory, my current HD is running out of space, so I want a second HD for my data while the first stays for the system
[10:53] <posingaspopular> are they going to be synced simultaniously
[10:53] <bazhang> TimS: like a raid drive?
[10:53] <TimS> No.
[10:53] <posingaspopular> yea it's easy for one hd to see the other and mount, actively doing is above my pay grade
[10:54] <TimS> Actualy, sort of yes.
[10:54] <bazhang> heh
[10:55] <fadey>  I'm having problems with the latest kernel package (doesn't detect my hard drive). So I was wondering if I could downgrade manualy to the kernel I've been using before
[10:58] <se7en_> fadey: you should have the choice to boot into an older kernel in your grub boot menu
[11:00] <fadey> se7en_: the only one I've got right now is from the earlier release 7.06 (2.6.20). However when I upgraded to gusty the 2.6.22 kernel was working fine. That is the one I'm looking for
[11:08] <juan> fadey: ubuntu repos only host the newset version, im not sure where you could find  an old version, you could compile it if you really wanted tho
[11:09] <jack> i need help with playing DVD movies
[11:09] <jack> the problem is not libdvd
[11:09] <jack> the problem is mounting the device which is not working at all
[11:10] <bazhang> jack: hardware problem?
[11:10] <jack> no because the drive reads audio cds
[11:12] <HS^> how do i make 'sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd'  permanent? i added 'blacklist ehci_hcd' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and added 'DISABLED_MODULES="ehci_hcd" ' in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common. It still loads.
[11:13] <posingaspopular> HS^: you should probably tell put it somewhere in your boot config files
[11:13] <posingaspopular> that's about as much as I know about that
[11:13] <HS^> but it also loads it after boot
[11:14] <HS^> it seems dynamic.
[11:14] <jussi01> How does one change the size of the icons on the desktop? It doesnt seem to be in configure desktop.
[11:14] <SSSSSSS> Hello can someone please help me?
[11:14] <Jucato> jussi01: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons ->  Advanced tab?
[11:15]  * jussi01 hugs Jucato Thanks :)
[11:15] <Jucato> :D
[11:16] <sourcemaker> Is there a reason... why the Kernel Timer Frequency in kubuntu is only 250?
[11:18] <smax> my linux box is not connected to the internet
[11:18] <jack> thanks for the help
[11:18] <smax> where can i get an implementatino of lisp
[11:18] <smax> gcl or clisp. which ever is prefered?
[11:18] <smax> im spoiled by apt
[11:19] <jussi01> !info clisp
[11:19] <ubotu> clisp: GNU CLISP, a Common Lisp implementation. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.41-1 (gutsy), package size 3491 kB, installed size 9596 kB
[11:19] <smax> i dont have apt
[11:19] <smax> oh is it on the cd ?
[11:20] <smax> i'll have to uncomment the line in /etc/sources.list
[11:20] <smax> im using the version prior to gutsy.
[11:20] <smax> can i install gutsy from cd-rom with out overwriting the contents in /home ?
[11:21] <bazhang> smax: no
[11:22] <smax> damn
[11:22] <smax> bazhang: so i would have to back up to an other storage device?
[11:22] <smax> great i'll have to learn partitioning.
[11:22] <ubunturos> smax: you should have had /home as a different partition, I guess, you could have then
[11:23] <bazhang> smax: best to back up anyway :}
[11:23] <smax> should i mount /home from an other partition?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> smax: common lisp rules
[11:23] <smax> :P
[11:24]  * smax has no idea about linux partitioning. checks google
[11:26] <sourcemaker> !fdisk
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <awen_> smax: qtparted is a graphical partitioner, and as far as i know it is on the live cd
[11:27] <awen_> !qtparted
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <bazhang> !info parted
[11:27] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-5.1ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 160 kB
[11:30] <The_ManU_212> hi
[11:30] <The_ManU_212> i installed kguitar and all seems to be fine but i hear no sound, timidity server is running... can you help me?
[11:32] <smax> kguitar?
[11:32] <white_eagle> anyone of you owns a ps3?
[11:32]  * smax is afriad of accidently destroying data with qtparted.
[11:33] <smax> yet if im compelled to back up to a seperate storage device, i could just use that  device as /home's partition
[11:34] <awen_> smax: you should backup everything in your home-directory first
[11:34]  * smax has mad porn.
[11:34] <smax> large capacity
[11:36] <smax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-GdiIYI-iA
[11:40] <posingaspopular> !tmi
[11:40] <ubotu> Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...
[11:41] <shaye> know what?
[11:41] <shaye> did you like that?
[11:41] <The_ManU_212> smax it is like guitar pro or tuxguitar
[11:42] <HS^> what is the kubuntu startup script, where i can add a command like 'rmmod whatver'
[11:42] <jca_> hi All
[11:43] <jca_> How do i check if i have installed 32 or 64 bit kubuntu ?
[11:43] <awen_> HS^: why not blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:43] <shaye> uname -a
[11:44] <HS^> awen_,  because it doesnt work.
[11:44] <pag> uname -m  is easier :)
[11:44] <HS^> it still loads the module.
[11:44] <shaye> ahh !
[11:44] <jca_> 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux. Is this 64 bit?
[11:44] <HS^> awen_,  i had to actually move the module itself
[11:44] <pag> jca_, 64bit
[11:44] <shaye> yes
[11:44] <HS^> so that it could not be leaded again.  but it still loads it on boot time
[11:44] <shaye> so is this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-GdiIYI-iA
[11:45] <jca_> yea uname -m was easy, hehe thanks
[11:45] <shaye> somewhere in man.
[11:45] <awen_> HS^: that shouldn't be possible, which module is it?
[11:45] <jca_> im trying to install the closed source creative x-fi driver and it complains that 32 bit not supported :(
[11:45] <HS^> awen_, ehci_hcd
[11:46] <HS^> awen, here was my original question:
[11:46] <HS^> How do i make 'sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd'  permanent? i added 'blacklist ehci_hcd' in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and added 'DISABLED_MODULES="ehci_hcd" ' in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common. I also added 'ehdci_hcd' in '/etc/hotplug/blacklist' a file that i created. It still loads. It seems to load dynamic instead of just as boot, because using one time the command modprobe -r is not enough.. it just reloads after a couple minuts.
[11:46] <HS^> As a last option I tried 'sudo mv /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host/ehci-hcd.ko.bu' in the hope that the kernel wouldnt see it anymore. But it still loads.
[11:46] <HS^> see i tried a lot. but now i just want to place rmmod ehci_hcd in startup script, and fysically remove the module. and be done with it
[11:49] <awen_> HS^: placing it in your .bashrc should unload it when you login
[11:49] <HS^> ok
[11:49] <knights>  I'm looking at buying a new laptop and I'm considerig a core 2 duo but what about the 'serious MMU bugs' I heard about? Does this not apply to core duo?
[11:51] <knights> whats a good channel for cpu talk?
[11:51] <posingaspopular> knights: #hardware afaik
[11:51] <knights> posingaspopular: Thanks!
[11:52] <vadya> knights: i have Core2Duo with no problems
[11:52] <knights> Whats the difference between Core2Duo and CoreDuo?
[11:53] <vadya> knights: Core2Duo has 64bit support
[11:53] <readyx> give it to me baby - aha - aha!
[11:54] <knights> 64bit support, if you don't need more than 4GB, is a gimmick really tho isn't it? I've never seen any test that show 64bit to be faster, its normally slightly slower
[11:55] <knights> I presume coreduo has better battery life than core2duo?
[11:55] <disting> hey , how can i turn up the entire audio the whole thing other than playing on vlc player becuase vlc is the only one that can turn my computer volume to it's optimum? thank you XD
[11:55] <knights> disting: gnome-alsamixer?
[11:56] <knights> (or is that alsamixer-gnome ?)
[11:56] <knights> oops! This is kubuntu! :)
[11:56] <knights> kmix?
[11:57] <knights> but you couldstill use gnome-alsamixer- I think its better thanb kmix, which is a bit of a mess
[11:58] <vadya> knights: i can't compare battery lifes as i don't have coreduo :)
[11:59] <vadya> knights: about performance - i don't feel any discomfort with speed
[11:59] <nado> hi there
[12:00] <vadya> knights: here are quite interesting articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Duo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2_Duo
[12:00] <disting> i hate vlc it's so borin gi can't believe i used it for so long(4 years) :S :@ i am angry
[12:00] <nado> i'm using a pretty old notebook and would like to know what graphics chip it has, any idea how i could get to know that?
[12:01] <posingaspopular> lshw @ nado
[12:01] <posingaspopular> in a a terminal/konsole
[12:01] <knights> disting: boring??? Whatever happened to stuff like stable, powerful, reliable- all of which vlc is.
[12:02] <nado> posingaspopular: thx, that worked ;)
[12:04] <The_ManU_212> i installed kguitar and all seems to be fine but i hear no sound, timidity server is running... can you help me?
 it sucks just boring, i feel sorry for people who uses vlc which is probebly everyone? that sucks eh? they learned bad education? thank you :D
[12:07] <padey> disting then what do you recomment? vlc is just the best when it comes to powerful :S
[12:07] <padey> recommend*
[12:09] <awen_> I would go with kmplayer or kaffeine
[12:14] <marioXXX> hello
[12:14] <padey> well for first they don't play dvd iso files if you drag them into the program :/
[12:14] <padey> vlc does
[12:14] <marioXXX> how can i reset konqueror's menu and icon bars to KDE's default ones?
[12:15] <padey> settings -> configure toolbars -> default
[12:15] <Jucato> I don't think that's what he meant though...
[12:16] <Jucato> hm... can't seem to find the FAQ...
[12:16] <Jucato> marioXXX: try this (the first part) http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[12:17] <crazy_bus> is it usual for feed items from akregator to go into the wrong slot.  i.e. items from feed a appearing in feed e?
[12:17] <Jucato> crazy_bus: um... no..
[12:18] <crazy_bus> because it's been happening to me a bit lately
[12:18] <marioXXX> Jucato: thanx
[12:19] <crazy_bus> the feed also know has the wrong picture and description while containing the correct title.  It's very strange
[12:22] <konrad> I'm trying to use smb4k to mount network shares, but it tries to scan eth0 (internet) instead of eth1 (local network). Anyone know how I can get around this or is there a better way than using smb4k?
[12:23] <jussi01> konrad: are they permanent shares?
[12:23] <jussi01> ie. you want them there all the time?
[12:24] <konrad> jussi01: As good as all of the time, yes.
[12:25] <jussi01> konrad: then I suggest using !samba to mount them via !fstab
[12:25] <jussi01> konrad: go private msg the bot and read the lnks from those 2
[12:26] <etfb> Anyone got wifi working with Kubuntu Gutsy?  I'm getting odd behaviour and I'd like to know if it's a common problem.
[12:26] <konrad> !samba
[12:26] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:26] <konrad> jussi01: tnx!
[12:26] <jussi01> !fstab > konrad
[12:26] <jussi01> konrad: yw :)
[12:27] <jussi01> etfb: which chipset?
[12:27] <etfb> jussi01: Intel 3945ABG - it's a Toshiba Satellite laptop
[12:28] <jussi01> etfb: iirc, that should work out of the box - what are the issues?
[12:28] <etfb> jussi01: Wired works fine - plug it in and knetworkmanager connects immediately.  Wifi doesn't connect until you beg it (click on the menu item for the access point) and waaaaaait...
[12:29] <etfb> jussi01: Was perfectly fine in Feisty.
[12:29] <jussi01> etfb: im not sure about those issues, sorry.
[12:29] <etfb> jussi01: Ah well...
[12:29] <jussi01> etfb: have you had a google aound?
[12:30] <etfb> jussi01: I've offered prayers and sacrifices to Google, but She has not seen fit to reveal the Truth to my mortal eyes.
[12:30] <jussi01> etfb: hehe, check the forums also ;)
[12:31] <etfb> jussi01: The forums seem to be full of bug reports and a million people saying "me too", but no answers.  Perhaps I should google for the specific chipset and/or driver.
[12:33] <jussi01> etfb: yep. also, have a look on lp - there maybe a bug/answer there
[12:35] <etfb> jussi01: If I have a problem with wifi + networking + Intel 3945ABG + Toshiba + the ipw3945 driver + Ubuntu + KDE + knetworkmanager, which would you suggest are the relevant things to focus on?  I've been assuming there was an issue with wifi in general in Kubuntu.
[12:35] <etfb> jussi01: What's lp?
[12:36] <jussi01> !lp | etfb
[12:36] <ubotu> etfb: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:36] <jussi01> etfb: no focus on the chipset.
[12:37] <jussi01> imho
[12:37] <jussi01> the chipset, plus kubuntu
[12:37] <etfb> jussi01: Cool.  If you can't give me a ready-made answer, giving me a set of better questions to ask is just as good, or possibly better.  Thanks!
[12:38] <jussi01> etfb: good luck, and let us know if you get a fix :D
 totem movie player XD thank you
[12:56] <DOLLY_> moin
[12:57] <DOLLY_> kennt jemand von euch das problem:
[12:57] <DOLLY_> kubuntu weigert sich einfach, bei den einstellungsfenstern in den systemverwaltungsmodus zu wechseln. bei einem klick auf den entsprechenden button, wartet er ein paar sekunden und dann sehe ich wieder das selbe bild vor mir.
[12:57] <posingaspopular> !gr
[12:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[12:57] <DOLLY_> was muss ich tun um den fehler zu beheben
[12:57] <tsdgeos> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:58] <DOLLY_> danke
[13:00] <pass> hello fellow kubunters, does anybody know if there is a permanent configuration file for the screen blanking parameter "xset s"
[13:02] <Xplicit> !mp3
[13:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:04] <etfb> I have a suspicion that something has gone wrong with DBus on my Kubuntu Gutsy system.  Does that make sense, or is it like saying my keyboard no longer works...?  Is it even possible for a system to work without DBus?
[13:07] <Xplicit> possible but i think kde would have a hard time
[13:08] <pass> hello fellow kubunters, does anybody know if there is a permanent configuration file for the screen blanking parameter "xset s"
[13:11] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:13] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:16] <Xplicit> what help do you want?
[13:28] <mauri> someone can haelp me with guarddog
[13:29] <bazhang> mauri: need more info than that
[13:29] <Xplicit> !ask | mauri
[13:29] <ubotu> mauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:30] <mauri> bazhang: i'm not able to update amule servers, it crashs
[13:30] <mauri> Xplicit:  i'm not able to update amule servers, it crashs
[13:31] <The_ManU_212> hi
[13:31] <jussi01> !hi | The_ManU_212
[13:31] <ubotu> The_ManU_212: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:31] <The_ManU_212> whre is the installationdirectory of java in edgy eft?
[13:33] <awen_> The_ManU_212: try looking in /usr/lib/jvm/...
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> awen_: no it isnt there
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> the thing is i need a soundbank for tuxguitar
[13:34] <The_ManU_212> but cant find javas installation directory
[13:35] <awen_> found out which java package you have installed with "dpkg -l | grep java"
[13:35] <awen_> then "dpkg -L <package-name>" give you the installed files
[13:37] <Xplicit> ive installed kubuntu-restricted extras but kaffine doesnt see /usr/lib/win32 does that mean i can/cant play win32 codec
[13:38] <camilla> Hello all! I've installed Kubuntu and it works great.
[13:38] <camilla> But theres always a but :-)
[13:38] <The_ManU_212> awen_: thx found it, it is jvm
[13:38] <camilla> And her is mine; all the fonts looks screwed
[13:39] <crazy_bus> what is the best place to upload a image when reporting a bug to launchpad?
[13:39] <camilla> i've tryed the smooth fonts thing but it still looks wierd
[13:40] <camilla> I'm getting a headace :-)
[13:41] <awen_> Xplicit: try putting them in /usr/local/lib/codecs ?
[13:41] <michael> I have a good Internet connection kubuntu recognizes the (cable modem) connection even displays the byes sent and received, but I cant bring up a web page.  whats the deal?
[13:42] <jussi01> Is there a way to get the kmenu in a window? (ala apple's finder -> applications)
[13:43] <michael> I just built the system with a fresh install of 7.10
[13:44] <iCEifer> can anyone help me install a GTK2 theme? I already have the tar.gz for the theme but do I need to install metacity or something to install and use it?
[13:47] <jussi01> michael: using konq?
[13:56] <michael> yes
[13:56] <camilla> Hello all! I've installed Kubuntu and it works great. But theres always a but :-)And her is mine; all the fonts looks screwed. i've tryed the smooth fonts thing but it still looks wierd
[13:56] <michael> sorry for the delay, had to dress my little girl
[13:56] <michael> mamma still sleeping
[13:56] <camilla> Ok I guess we ha a little time difference
[13:57] <jussi01> michael: np. I suggest you check with firefox or someting just to check
[13:57] <camilla> I cannot find the fontrenderer
[13:59] <michael> cant, its a fresh install
[14:00] <michael> konq. is all I have
[14:00] <michael> I cant connect to konversation either
[14:00] <jussi01> michael: but you have internet access... can you sudo apt-get install firefox
[14:01] <michael> ahhh, gotcha
[14:01] <RurouniJones> if you can connect to the net but not a website (Using HTTP)  then your ISP may have a web-proxy that you need to configure
[14:04] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[14:04] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:04] <michael> I get an error stating that the firefox package has no installation canidate
[14:04] <jussi01> michael: sudo apt-get update
[14:05] <michael> no I am using the connection now with no proxy so no need of............oh crap..........
[14:05] <jussi01> michael: ?
[14:05] <michael> I didnt plug the cable in
[14:06] <michael> lol, still using it to talk to you
[14:06] <jussi01> hahahahaah
[14:07] <michael> ok.. wil attempt again with an actual 'connection'
[14:07] <jussi01> :)
[14:07] <michael> brb
[14:11] <michael__> ok
[14:11] <michael__> I may not be truly connected
[14:11] <michael__> I cant bring up an IP
[14:12] <jussi01> michael: what does it start with?
[14:12] <michael__> pc recognises a connection and somehow little bit of data
[14:12] <Gargoyle76> I need help with  wireless hardware!
[14:12] <michael__> IP?
[14:12] <michael__> all zeros
[14:13] <jussi01> michael: yeah, thats not really an ip...
[14:13] <KR-data> my computer has started doing something on my disks, how to I know what it is doing?
[14:13] <michael__> yeah I know
[14:13] <jussi01> KR-data: ctrl-esc
[14:13] <michael__> what threw me off was that I looked at the data sent and received and didnt bother to look any further
[14:14] <jussi01> hehe
[14:14] <jussi01> michael__: what sort of network hardware are we talking about?
[14:14] <michael__> what do I do from here? When I connect the cable to the pc it it knows
[14:14] <Gargoyle76> I tried installing kde4 and I lost my wilreless card...it won't show up in settings anymore
[14:15] <michael__> hold on..
[14:15] <michael__> its a gigabye board
[14:16] <michael__> I know that much
[14:16] <KR-data> jussi01, that doesn't say anything about usage of my disks
[14:16] <Gargoyle76> can anyone help?
[14:17] <Gargoyle76> guess not
[14:17] <giuseppe> sorry, is there anyone had problems with amule connection?
[14:18] <michael__> ok I will ahve to connect the intenet connection to it again for it to tell me. everything is blank right now
[14:20] <Xplicit> kaffine doesnt seam to have permisions to do anything with my dvb card, how do i fix this?
[14:28] <roy_> hi, is there a utility I can use to change the partition sizes after installation?
[14:28] <michael> ok back
[14:29] <michael> Device: mcp61  vendor: Nvidia  interface: eth0  bandwith: 100  Active: yes  Carrier Detect: supported
[14:31] <Xplicit> roy_: yes but it could damage your data and you cant change the size of a partiton in use
[14:31] <roy_> can I do it from a livecd?
[14:31] <jussi01> !info qparted | roy_
[14:31] <ubotu> roy_: Package qparted does not exist in gutsy
[14:31] <Xplicit> i think so but i dont know much so cant gaurantee it as everytime i use qtparted it behaves differently
[14:32] <jussi01> !info parted | roy_
[14:32] <ubotu> roy_: parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-5.1ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 160 kB
[14:32] <michael> Device: mcp61  vendor: Nvidia  interface: eth0  bandwith: 100  Active: yes  Carrier Detect: supported
[14:32] <roy_> I have the feisty liveCD, is it there?
[14:32] <jussi01> michael: do you have a router?
[14:32] <michael> nope
[14:32] <michael> straight from the wall
[14:32] <jussi01> michael: and you dont use pppoe to connect in windows?
[14:33] <michael> linux is all I use now
[14:34] <jussi01> michael: weird
[14:34] <michael> I do have windows on the other machine, but I cant connect there either (no drivers are loaded anyway) I want to get linux woking first
[14:35] <michael> I am trying to get my sis to switch (pc is for them)  Merry Christmas
[14:35] <jussi01> :D
[14:36] <michael> AMD x2 6000+ 500 gig HD, 2 gig ram, she better love it
[14:36] <michael> lol
[14:37] <michael> all wrapped up in a Atrix case (one my favs)
[14:37] <jussi01> michael: it should work. check your network prefs are set the same as the other working box.
[14:38] <Karti> Hi all, looking at creating an iso image of my WIndows XP disk so that I can point to it within Virtual Box. Any one give me some pointers? Many thanks
[14:38] <michael> should I put a stick IP in the settings?
[14:38] <michael> I mean static
[14:39] <jussi01> michael: you said you had another working ubuntu box - use the same settings as there.
[14:39] <michael> ok
[14:40] <michael> thanks
[14:40] <jussi01> michael: let us know how you go
[14:40] <michael> will do
[14:51] <posingaspopular> michael: it's pretty easy actually. you install vbox in ubuntu, locate the .iso file on your system and tell vbox to boot from that iso
[14:56] <bucatoamano> !paste
[14:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:01] <tomahasamoot> hello
[15:01] <jussi01> !hi | tomahasamoot
[15:01] <ubotu> tomahasamoot: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:01] <tomahasamoot> I just downloaded and played with KDE 4.0
[15:01] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: so what do you think?
[15:03] <tomahasamoot> it looks great, but it's slooooooooooooow on a Core2Quad w/ 4 G ram and a 3 disk LVM array, also doesn't do anything useful... but it looks very nice.  Like Mac OS
[15:04] <tomahasamoot> if this is the way things are going, I might as well switch to Mac OS now
[15:04] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: here it isnt that slow
[15:04] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: and they really dont try to look like mac...
[15:05] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: it was very slow, like it would take 30 to 60 seconds to ad an applet on the desktop
[15:05] <emilsedgh> wow
[15:05] <muftir> wow
[15:05] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: so there should be something wrong at there, what about cursor? it moved smooth?
[15:06] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: i think you should try to disabled dekstop effects
[15:06] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: also the applets didn't do anything at all.  expect the pager, clock, and lancher, none of the applets did anything...
[15:07] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: try to disable desktop effects please
[15:08] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: I have a Core2Quad w/ 4 GB of ram, an nVidia 8600, and a 3 disk arrary... that's not enough to run desktop effects... ?
[15:09] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: thats enough, misconfigurations in X settings and/or not present drivers for your card may cause that
[15:10] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: it's more than slowness, apps wouldn't load, I could see the processes were running, but they would never appear on the desktop
[15:10] <Daisuke_Ido> not only that, as kde4 isn't officially out, we don't support it.  try in #kde-devel
[15:10] <Daisuke_Ido> thanks SO much.
[15:10] <knights> I'm running gutsy and my root partition seems to keep filling up to max (so stuff stops working) and I have no idea why as I'm not downloading anything. Is there a log file I can check or is this is gutsy bug? I'm up to date with my packages
[15:11] <tomahasamoot> Daisuke_Ido: I'm back to KDE 3.5... I'm just letting you know what it's like
[15:11] <Tm_T> knights: does "sudo apt-get clean" help?
[15:13] <knights> What I should add is that I freed 4GB a few days ago and I've not installed or upgraded any packages or downloaded anything sine yet today I found / to be full
[15:13] <tomahasamoot> emilsedgh: how can I tell if my card is configured corectely?  usplash also doesn't work, ... do you think it's related?
[15:13] <knights> surely the is something under /var/log I should look at
[15:13] <knights> I don't think this is an apt problem
[15:13] <emilsedgh> tomahasamoot: o dont know :(
[15:14] <knights> Nobody else experienced a mysteriously filling / drive under gutsy or heard of something similiar?
[15:15] <Tm_T> knights: interesting
[15:15] <Tm_T> knights: "du -chs --max-depth=2 /"
[15:16] <knights> Tm_T: du: warning: summarising conflicts with --max-depth=2
[15:17] <Tm_T> knights: then remove S
[15:19] <tomahasamoot> is compiz installed by defalt now?  I remember seeing a reference that it is
[15:20] <knights> Tm_T: HD grinding away now..
[15:20] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: it is in Ubuntu IIRC
[15:20] <Tm_T> knights: aye, it checks your disk usage
[15:20] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: what's Ubuntu IIRC?
[15:20] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: Ubuntu If I Recall Correctly
[15:21] <Xplicit> ive been having problems getting kaffiene to work with dvb earlier it wouldnt work atall now it will only pick up 1 multiplex, is this a kaffeine limitation or a config problem?
[15:21] <Tm_T> Xplicit: latter
[15:21] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: but it's not in Kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64, right?
[15:21] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: no it's not in Kubuntu, I believe
[15:21] <Xplicit> any ideas for fixing this? its a clean 7.10 install + all codec
[15:23] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: still to buggy?
[15:23] <Tm_T> tomahasamoot: no idea, I don't use it
[15:23] <tomahasamoot> Tm_T: thanks
[15:24] <ubuntu> Hello all
[15:24] <Sebien> Is there any way to install KUbuntu without formating the / partition?
[15:24] <Sebien> I have only one partition for root and home, and I don't want to erase my personal data
[15:25] <Xplicit> from?
[15:25] <Sebien> the installer still wants me to format my / partition!
[15:25] <Sebien> Is there any way to bypass this?
[15:25] <Xplicit> Sebien: yes what are you installing from?
[15:25] <Sebien> I was using KUbuntu before
[15:25] <Sebien> I moved all the folders in / to /OLD
[15:26] <Sebien> so the disk is clean for the installation
[15:26] <Sebien> I selected manual partitionning
[15:26] <Xplicit> im not sure then, the alternate install cd may work
[15:27] <Sebien> the first drive assigned to /windows, and the second to /, none of them are forma...
[15:27] <Sebien> ...ah
[15:27] <Sebien> I don't have a big internet connexion
[15:27] <Sebien> it will take time
[15:27] <Sebien> to download
[15:27] <Sebien> there is no command line switch to remove that error
[15:27] <Sebien> or change the error to just a warning
[15:28] <Sebien> It really should just be a warning!
[15:28] <Sebien> or any command-line install procedure?
[15:30] <Xplicit> possibly but i dont know much, ive found that the alternate install disk gave me all the stuff i had to work hard to do after install by default but i dont know if its included in the live cd
[15:31] <W8TAH> morning everyone -- fighting a wee problem here -- when i boot my gusty laptop, the splash screen wont come up -- if i turn off the quiet option in grub, i can see all the various kernel messages etc, but with it on the kubuntu splash doenst show -- id like to solve this
[15:31] <W8TAH> any input is welcome
[15:32] <knights> Tm_T: Right, I know what the problem is- all my disk space is being ate by 'tracker' as
[15:32] <knights> 35G     /home/nigmac/.cache/tracker
[15:32] <knights> I'm actually running GNOME gutsy right now
[15:32] <knights> Have I just got to turn tracker off or can it be fixed?
[15:33] <tomahasamoot> I've got a Logitech cordless desktop wave, and mouse with a lot of buttons.  Many of them do work, such as the play/pause, stop, next, and previous track buttons.  Also the calculator button brings up SpeedCrunch.  All of this is very nice, and better then I thought it might be :-)
[15:33] <ardchoille> W8TAH: This may be a dumb question, but do you have the word "splash" in your kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[15:33] <tomahasamoot> However, I can't seem to assign the rest of the extra buttons
[15:33] <W8TAH> lemme check but i believe so ardchoille
[15:34] <Sebien> Ok, I won't reinstall KUbuntu, then. Does anyone heard about problems accessing disks on KUbuntu? I upgraded to the latest version and now I can't mount any external harddrive, nor the windows partition! Is there a was to fix that without reinstalling KUbuntu?
[15:34] <W8TAH> ardchoille: it is currently not - -but i believe that in the past it was
[15:34] <W8TAH> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=3ce4e26c-7927-4195-86d
[15:34] <W8TAH> c-10f498257f9b ro
[15:35] <W8TAH> thats my current kernel line
[15:35] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Try adding the word "splash" in there right after "quiet" and see what that does.
[15:35] <W8TAH> ok
[15:35] <ardchoille> W8TAH: ok, add splash right after ro
[15:35] <tomahasamoot> Sebien: I had some trouble durning install, but I was able to fix it by adding the windows to fstab
[15:35] <W8TAH> ok
[15:36] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: I've had nothing but trouble w/ splash, you might not want to do that
[15:36] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: it's never worked, not once
[15:36] <W8TAH> ardchoille: be right back
[15:37] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: I've never had trouble with splash.
[15:38] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: better to hit e in the grub screen, try it once, then when it doesn't work, you won't have to change anything back
[15:38] <jaguila> hola???
[15:38] <jaguila> alguien español????
[15:38] <ardchoille> !es | jaguila
[15:38] <ubotu> jaguila: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:39] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: Actually, I've been running and supporting ubuntu for years and this is the first time I've heard of anyone having trouble with splash
[15:40] <W8TAH> ardchoille: no splash - same behavior as before
[15:40] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: if you can tell me what would make it work... ?
[15:40] <W8TAH> black screen from teh time i exit grub (where it says starting up) till KDM Starts
[15:40] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Did you install video drivers?
[15:40] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: I RTFM'd and it didn't fix it, it also sounded like a very common problem
[15:41] <W8TAH> ardchoille: i dont undestnad - X works fine
[15:41] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's the same problem I have, splash is a load of crap, it doesn't work, don't use it
[15:41] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: This is the first I've heard about it. But, thank you for the "e" at grub menu advice :)
[15:42] <ardchoille> tomahasamoot: We can do without that type thing here.
[15:42] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: its worked fine for me untill i did the upgrade to gusty
[15:42] <tomahasamoot> ardchoille: you're welcome :-)
[15:42] <W8TAH> which is why it should work
[15:42] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: 64 bit?
[15:42] <W8TAH> nope
[15:42] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Well, I've never done an upgrade
[15:43] <W8TAH> ardchoille: its not a huge thing -- it works without it -- ppl just look at me a bit odd with all the kernel messges scrolling - -and i dont like to just see a blank screen
[15:44] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I've got some instructions that might work, if you want to try them...
[15:44] <W8TAH> sure
[15:44] <ardchoille> W8TAH: I agree
[15:44] <knulfine> !de
[15:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:44] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sudo hwinfo > modes.txt
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: sorry
[15:45] <ainxthea> 46544
[15:45] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's sudo hwinfo --framebuffer > modes.txt
[15:46] <W8TAH> ok-- got a whole list of them
[15:46] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: so you already tried this?
[15:46] <W8TAH> no
[15:46] <W8TAH> just ran it as u told me to
[15:47] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: now less modes.txt
[15:47] <W8TAH> done
[15:47] <root____> scuse me .. who is a spanish kubuntu channel
[15:47] <ardchoille> !es | root____
[15:47] <ubotu> root____: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:47] <Tm_T> oh, root in irc :(
[15:48] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: i see a whole list of options
[15:48] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: it'll tell pick a mode, Mode 0x0318: 1024x768 (+4096), 24 bits
[15:49] <W8TAH> yes -- i see this -- im on a laptop so my preferred mode is 0x344 --1400x1050 32 bit
[15:49] <tomahasamoot> for example if you want this mode you'll put vga=0x0318 in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[15:49] <W8TAH> cool
[15:49] <W8TAH> ok
[15:49] <W8TAH> one sec lemme do this
[15:50] <root____> holas
[15:50] <jpatrick> root____: the other channel mate ;=
[15:51] <W8TAH> ok tomahasamoot done
[15:51] <W8TAH> whats next
[15:51] <tomahasamoot> now sudo update-grub
[15:51] <W8TAH> AHHHHH -- i see a problem
[15:51] <W8TAH> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[15:52] <W8TAH> it appears that the splash image is completely missing
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: that's interesting, does it tell you a path?
[15:53] <W8TAH> no
[15:53] <lobosque> how do I enter in a directory with space in the name trough shell?
[15:53] <ardchoille> W8TAH: That would be one reason why the "splash" in the kernel line doesn't work :)
[15:53] <W8TAH> very true --
[15:53] <W8TAH> how do i instll the splash image
[15:53] <Jucato> lobosque: either press Tab to autocomplete the directory name or use \ before the space
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I think those are in a package
[15:53] <Jucato> lobosque: like "cd My\ Directory"
[15:53] <W8TAH> ok
[15:53] <lobosque> thanks buddy
[15:53] <W8TAH> brb - 1 sec
[15:53] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: lets look
[15:54] <Tm_T> mmmmgh
[15:54] <ardchoille> !splash | W8TAH not sure, but there may be some info here
[15:54] <ubotu> W8TAH not sure, but there may be some info here: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[15:55] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Ignore that, it isn't for kubuntu
[15:55] <Jucato> !usplash
[15:55] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:55] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thanks!
[15:56] <ardchoille> W8TAH: ^^
[15:56] <W8TAH> back
[15:56] <W8TAH> thanks
[15:56] <W8TAH> kewl
[15:56] <W8TAH> AWESOME
[15:58] <W8TAH> rebooting to try -
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[16:01] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:02] <W8TAH> back -- it didnt change anything
[16:03] <W8TAH> oh well
[16:03] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yeah, this is a tough nut to crack
[16:03] <W8TAH> well - like i said - -not a big issue
[16:04] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you could try a lowwer res., but then, I'm guessing you already have
[16:04] <W8TAH> no-- that i havent
[16:04] <W8TAH> i'll try that
[16:04] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: let me know if it works
[16:05] <W8TAH> will do
[16:05] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:05] <oakxx> ive been having a tuff time with firefox
[16:05] <oakxx> swiftweasel wont work either
[16:06] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: what was that update routine i had to do
[16:06] <W8TAH> update grub or some such thing
[16:09] <maki__> hi
[16:09] <maki__> whats kubuntu default style?
[16:10] <jpatrick> maki__: plastik
[16:10] <maki__> the windeco is crystalsvg?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> maki__: check in system settings /appearance
[16:10] <maki__> i dont have kubuntu :)
[16:11] <Jucato> Windeco is Crystal (Crystal SVG is an icon theme)
[16:11] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yes sudo update-grub
[16:11] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:11] <Jucato> jpatrick: kubuntu's default widget style? polyester
[16:12] <jpatrick> kwin-style-crsystal was packaged by me \o/
[16:12] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: it appears when i do that -- it takes out the VGA Line
[16:12] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash
[16:12] <W8TAH> ohhhh -- ok
[16:12] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: yes, it'll do that
[16:12] <jpatrick> Jucato: plastik <3
[16:12] <Jucato> doesn't change the fact that Kubuntu's default is polyester :P
[16:13] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: there's a place to put it in the file, let me get you the ref. line
[16:13] <W8TAH> ok
[16:14] <emilsedgh> Jucato: kubuntu's default appearance is really ugly, i dont like it
[16:14] <maki__> and the color scheme?
[16:14] <Jucato> maki__: customized for Kubuntu
[16:14] <tomahasamoot> ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the## alternatives## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5# defoptions=quiet splash
[16:15] <maki__> Jucato: its on kde-look
[16:15] <Jucato> dunno
[16:15] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you edit, but don't uncomment the last line
[16:15] <Jucato> what I mean is that the color scheme wasn't based on an existing scheme, but was made for Kubuntu
[16:15] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: ok
[16:15] <maki__> i know
[16:16] <Jucato> it's not that hard to export and put up in kde-look
[16:16] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: then after you update grub, do a sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:17] <W8TAH> how do i translate the vga= number
[16:17] <W8TAH> from the modes.txt?
[16:18] <htmljunkie>  k i am new on lin and run Kubuntu and I want to setup samba in a gui front end?
[16:18] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: I was told that you can use as is, 0x0???, but then I'm still having trouble, so I could be wrong
[16:18] <jpatrick> !smb4k | htmljunkie
[16:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb4k - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:18] <W8TAH> ok
[16:18] <jpatrick> !info smb4k
[16:18] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[16:18] <jpatrick> ^ htmljunkie
[16:19] <htmljunkie> hello
[16:19] <BluesKaj> htmljunkie:  smb4k is a nice samba browser with gui
[16:19] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: if you've got any magic pix dust, now's the time to use it
[16:19] <tomahasamoot> ;-)
[16:19] <htmljunkie> k
[16:19] <W8TAH> LOL
[16:19] <W8TAH> sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:19] <W8TAH> arrrggg
[16:19] <W8TAH> sorry
[16:20] <htmljunkie> where do i go to install smb4k
[16:20] <htmljunkie> can i install it in add/remove apps?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> htmworks well altho , once you have the network configged , Konqueror can do it easily and more simply by just using samba in it's addressbar
[16:20] <htmljunkie> k
[16:20] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: what went wrong?
[16:20] <W8TAH> typed in the wrong window
[16:20] <jpatrick> htmljunkie: yep, just make sure you have the universe repo enabled
[16:21] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: oh
[16:21] <BluesKaj> htmljunkie:  if your sources are all enabled smb4k will be in one of the package managers like adept
[16:21] <htmljunkie> k
[16:21] <nerian> Hi. I'm trying to install Compiz in Kubuntun gutsy
[16:22] <jpatrick> nerian: hola
[16:22] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: before I forget, there's a very simple, /etc/usplash.conf file that has the res. in it
[16:23] <nerian> jpatrick: Hola
[16:23] <nerian> jpatrick: he instalado esto  aptitude install compiz compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:23] <jpatrick> !es | nerian
[16:23] <ubotu> nerian: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:24] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: you should edit that then do the update, sorry, about that :-(
[16:25] <mauri> mule crash when update server list
[16:25] <BluesKaj> hmm, trying this pidgin thing for the first time , seems to work ok on irc but not as an IM ...anyone using google talk ...my grand daughter is trying to send me messages , but my replies aren't getting thru
[16:26] <jameswf-home> I use pidgin for aim, yahoo, gogle talk, myspace and jabber
[16:26] <jameswf-home> works fine
[16:27] <jameswf-home> if it installed you want to try  #pidgin for troubleshooting and faq
[16:27] <BluesKaj> fine jameswf-home , I'm getting this error message delivery failed
[16:27] <BluesKaj> failed:  (Code 400)
[16:28] <HS^> Any idea how to install OBDC qt4 support in kubuntu? fedora has packages for it.. but i cant find them for ubuntu.
[16:28] <HS^> (here is fedora package: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/6/i386/repoview/qt4-odbc.html )
[16:28] <e> pls help. how do i connect to the internet using a CDMA moderm. it uses a windows standard 33600 modem driver under winxp.any linux  driver that could work
[16:28] <jameswf-home> HS^: have you tried alien works 60% of th time
[16:29] <HS^> jameswf-home,  yes i tried.
[16:29] <jameswf-home> stupid 40% :)
[16:29] <HS^> QOBDC is not recognised after i installed it :\
[16:29] <HS^> yea
[16:30] <Joelito> Hi all, what's the name of the package that helps kubuntu keep update (security, patches, etc)
[16:30] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[16:31] <BluesKaj> then it's adept notifier/updater
[16:31] <Joelito> adept
[16:31] <jameswf-home> Joelito: I think adept has a daemon
[16:32] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: are you still here?
[16:33] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: no luck
[16:33] <e> pls help. how do i connect to the internet using a CDMA modem. it uses a windows standard 33600 modem driver under winxp.any linux driver that could work
[16:34] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: let me go back and look again
[16:34] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: dont worry about it - -im running short of time
[16:36] <maki__> what's the name of kubuntu's default wallpaper?
[16:36] <jussi01> e: what kind of cdma modem?
[16:37] <sean> I'm having trouble installing a geforcefx graphics driver, it says gedit has not been able to detect the character coding
[16:38] <tomahasamoot> W8TAH: well, write this down for later: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622018
[16:38] <W8TAH> ok -- thanks
[16:40] <maki__> can anyone upload kubuntu's default color scheme on kde-look?
[16:45] <W8TAH> tomahasamoot: change of plans here -- im gonna tear into it a bit more
[17:09] <ubuntu_> salut
[17:09] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu_
[17:09] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:14] <user_> hi all... trying to compile kernel, hit this brick wall: "*** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop."  What do i do?
[17:14] <r12saa> Hi all. I have problem with my Amarok, it doesn't play .mp3??? Why ??
[17:15] <Jeroi> it should automatically dl mp3 support
[17:15] <Jeroi> when you try to play mp3
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> for mp3 you need to install some extra packages.  - I thouht it auto installed tehm also.. but seen it not work in some caese
[17:15] <user_> blood_killer: 1. please stop changing your name 2. download restricted extras for mp3 codecs
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:15] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[17:15] <DreadKnight> anyone else having tiny font in kde4?
[17:16] <Jeroi> !mp3
[17:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:17] <user_> dr_willis: do you know how to fix this error whilst recompiling kernel: ""*** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop."" ???
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> user_ no idea. I aint had to mess with the kernel in years. You did check the kernel guide?
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[17:21] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[17:21] <TuxMan> hello!
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> hi
[17:22] <TuxMan> so...
[17:23] <TuxMan> I am torrent downloading the .iso for Kubuntu 8.04!
[17:23] <TuxMan> :-)
[17:23] <TuxMan> I have been so happy with Kubuntu that I want to go into graphics development for 8.04
[17:23] <TuxMan> :-)
[17:26] <Schuenemann> How to unmount my DVD? I'm getting this error message: Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL
[17:28] <telfordmedia> qanyone use linux mce
[17:34] <rothchild> evenin' all
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> hi
[17:34] <poison--> <telfordmedia i did, once
[17:36] <rothchild> hey Dr_Willis did you get your 'skyperophone' working?
[17:36] <TuxMan> Wow. Kubuntu 8.04 is really popular.  Even KTorrent is slow downloading the .iso!
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> rothchild not really. :) I just needed it in the basement so the wife could call me from Upstairs..  she made me move the pc upstairs... so now i ant hide.
[17:37] <user_> does anyone know if 8.04 comes with a newer kernel than Gutsy's default?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> Id imagine it does. :)
[17:38] <ardchoille> user_: Support for 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <rothchild> lol@ Dr_Willis
[17:39] <user_> dr_willis: yeah, just wondering, i was having all kinds of hardware config problems, and now having trouble compiling a newer kernel, so I'll just wait for Hardy to be officially released, i guess :/
[17:48] <TuxMan> user_:I could get an iso to you so you wont have to do the slow download of Hardy.  I'm doing it myself now.
[17:48] <poison--> is hardy already available?
[17:49] <TuxMan> as Alpha
[17:49] <TuxMan> I'm a graphics devel person myself, and I have a second hard drive, so I thought, "why not get Hardy"?
[17:49] <poison--> nice
[17:50] <TuxMan> I'll also be able to try out KDE 4, which after a lot of work still didnt work on 7.10
[17:51] <TuxMan> hmph according to KTorrent, another 3 hours and 40 minutes to go b4 iso completely downloaded.
[17:51] <TuxMan> I hate busy servers.
[17:51] <TuxMan> My comp is
[17:52] <TuxMan> 2.4 GHz processor
[17:52] <llutz> TuxMan: ^^ makes downloads not faster
[17:53] <TuxMan> I'll go watch TV. TuxMan out!
[17:54] <rothchild> tuxman if you have a gutsy disk you could just install that and then change the sources to hardy and upgrade it
[17:58] <ardchoille> rothchild: That's not the recommended method of upgrading and could cause problems.
[17:59] <jhutchins> So the theory here is we switch to unfinished/untested Hardy, and maybe that will make unfinished/untested KDE4 work better?
[17:59] <llutz> jhutchins: mathematics: - * - = +
[18:00] <jhutchins> ardchoille: I don't think they've done an upgrader script yet, that usually doesn't happen until package freeze lets them figure out what needs to change.
[18:01] <mel> hi there
[18:01] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Agreed. But, upgrading like that doesn't pull in apps that are new to Hardy but not in Gutsy, right?
[18:01] <mel> did anyone manage to install ubuntu on ich8r .. raid-0
[18:02] <ardchoille> mel: For ubuntu, you should join #ubuntu. This channel is for Kubuntu support.
[18:03] <mel> i mean Kubuntu :)
[18:03] <ardchoille> mel: Ah, ok
[18:09] <kiiz> hi. can anyone tell how to get a CDMA modem working on kubuntu
[18:11] <W8TAH> ardchoille: finally got it working -- followed the proceduare that the other guy (toma something) was giving me
[18:11] <W8TAH> worked great
[18:12] <Beelze> hello. i have a problem...i switched from gnome to kde4 (on ubuntu)....but now there are only black boxes and
[18:13] <Beelze> i my opinion the problem is the displaymanager
[18:13] <Beelze> but i can´t switch to kdm4
[18:14] <CheGuevara> black boxes when you do what
[18:15] <kiiz> does anyone use a cdma modem?
[18:15] <rothchild> kiz what's cdma?
[18:16] <uchimata> if i want to share a directory over my lan using samba, what should the permission on it be?
[18:16] <CheGuevara> kiiz: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LinuxQuestions_org/CDMA_modem_phone_Howto
[18:16] <ardchoille> W8TAH: Glad to hear it's working for you :)
[18:16] <W8TAH> :)
[18:16] <W8TAH> kinda a fun project realy
[18:17] <Beelze> black boxes where the start button is....if i move my mouse over the start button i can see the kde menue
[18:17] <W8TAH> Beelze: sounds like a driver issue to me
[18:17] <Beelze> in the  background i can see my old gnome wallpaper
[18:18] <Beelze> i think it´s the displaymanager
[18:18] <Beelze> i cannot start kdm4 display manager....but don´t know what´s the problem is
[18:18] <rothchild> Beelze: try f2 and run kwin --replace
[18:19] <Beelze> ok i try
[18:19] <W8TAH> i know i should know this but i cant find the place where i select the style for the KDM Greeter
[18:19] <W8TAH> can someone pointme the right spot?
[18:22] <Schuenemann> W8TAH, the splash screen?
[18:23] <rothchild> W8TAH: try the 'advanced' tab in system settings
[18:23] <W8TAH> no -- theres a place to re-configure what the actual greeter looks like -- for example to select if there is a user list or not etc
[18:24] <W8TAH> thats not it
[18:25] <Schuenemann> yes, it is
[18:25] <ardchoille> !info kdmtheme | W8TAH
[18:25] <ubotu> w8tah: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB
[18:25] <W8TAH> thanks
[18:27] <Schuenemann> !fonts
[18:27] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[18:28] <jameswf-home> !MPlayer
[18:28] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[18:28] <jameswf-home> wow
[18:31] <lerneaen_hydra> anyone here know how to remove an md array? while creating the array the first time the power died, and now whenever I try to repartition the drives the raid device thinks it's active and synced. Not even a 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXX bs=512' left running for a couple seconds will kill the array. Any ideas?
[18:32] <jameswf-home> !emo
[18:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:32] <LjL> !msgthebot
[18:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:32] <slow-motion> hi
[18:38] <uchimata> if i want to share a directory over my lan using samba, what should the permission on it be?
[18:39] <jameswf-home> !samba | uchimata
[18:39] <ubotu> uchimata: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:43] <Jeroi> huoh
[18:43] <Jeroi> I needed ia32 alsa-oss amd64 packet
[18:43] <Jeroi> for teamspeak to work
[18:43] <Jeroi> lol
[18:46] <drarem> how can I make the win key on my keyboard 'sticky' so I can hit it to pull up the K-menu?
[18:55] <rothchild> drarem have you seen this:
[18:55] <rothchild> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/ about halfway down the page
[18:56] <rothchild> search the page for PatheticM0F0 on	 				June 15, 2007 5:53 pm  			 			 			 			 			 			 			 			 			 		  	 						 	        	 			  			
[18:58] <rothchild> backed up by: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552777
[19:01] <romunov> anyone good at configuring local network (router)?
[19:01] <jughead> I have a problem with kubuntu gutsy.  I needed to print a web page and wanted to print to pdf.  I tried to install cups-pdf but it was already installed but firefox doesn't recognize it.  other programs do.  the print to file through ps didn't produce useable results
[19:05] <Aerentix> my kopete wont work, it says that I don't have any debuggin tools...  help?
[19:07] <Lynoure> jughead: no "Print to File (PDF)"?
[19:08] <jughead> not in firefox Lynoure, other applications like kate and the ps viewer have that option.  the ps printer is only printing the first page for some reason
[19:11] <Aerentix> my kopete wont work, it says that I don't have any debuggin tools...  help?
[19:12] <CheGuevara> what the exact error
[19:12] <Lynoure> jughead: Have you restarted FF after configuring printing in cups?
[19:14] <ubuntu> hi
[19:14] <jughead> Lynoure, yeah I tried that.  I found a site that listed some changes in about:config - I messed with them and got the krpint dialog to show up (krinter lists the pdf printer) so looks like all is good.
[19:14] <jussi01> !hi | ubuntu
[19:14] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:14] <ubuntu> thanxs ubotu
[19:14] <jussi01> !bot > ubuntu
[19:15] <ubuntu> how are you?
[19:15] <jussi01> ubuntu: how can we help?
[19:16] <ubuntu> i would know if this system is right eor me or not
[19:16] <jussi01> ubuntu: what are you requirements?
[19:17] <ubuntu> kubuntu5.4
[19:17] <ubuntu> is it beter than xp?
[19:19] <jpatrick> ubuntu: depends
[19:19] <CheGuevara> 5.4 ?
[19:19] <ubuntu> on what?
[19:19] <CheGuevara> ubuntu: on what you want to do
[19:20] <ubuntu> hmm.. playing games and brows+chat
[19:20] <ubuntu> thats all!
[19:20] <daffytheduck> there u go
[19:20] <ubuntu> ?
[19:21] <CheGuevara> yeah you gonna have problems wiht games :P
[19:21] <ubuntu> noooooooooo
[19:21] <ubuntu> whhay?>
[19:21] <ubuntu> :X
[19:21] <CheGuevara> because most games are made for windows?
[19:21] <ubuntu> ohhhh i forgt\it
[19:21] <ubuntu> so..
[19:22] <CheGuevara> can use wine/cedega, but its not certaint it'll work
[19:22] <alfonso> hola
[19:22] <ubuntu> sty on my xp :S
[19:22] <jpatrick> !es | alfonso
[19:22] <ubotu> alfonso: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:22] <alfonso> gracias
[19:22] <CheGuevara> ubuntu can use XP to play games and kubuntu for everything else
[19:22] <daffytheduck> large projects like aircraft simulators in windows have hundreds of people working on them arround the clock so to get the same on linux its gonna take the same thing
[19:23] <ubuntu> sims2?
[19:23] <CheGuevara> or check http://games.cedega.com/gamesdb/ if your favorite games are supported
[19:25] <CheGuevara> yeah sims 2 doesn't work with cedega :P
[19:27] <firegrind> hey all - i'm trying to add a user to my machine with useradd with the -p option to set the password.  the user appears but i can't su with the password i specify.  any pointers appreciated.
[19:27] <biovore> add him to the admin group
[19:27] <jpatrick> firegrind: sudo passwd username
[19:28] <firegrind> cheers - jp: i want to do it non-interactively, bio: i'll give that a spin
[19:28] <daffytheduck> shouldnt u get an automatic prompt for a new password with a new user
[19:29] <firegrind> that's adduser
[19:29] <daffytheduck> thats probably the best way to do it then
[19:34] <firegrind> aha ! sudo apt-get install expect
[19:43] <daffytheduck> try shadow as well
[19:43] <mauri> is it possible to access to kubuntu 7.10 with no auotentication (username and passwd)
[19:47] <bmack> i just enabled my ati graphics accl. in restricted drivers and now i cannot boot ubuntu i get this error
[19:47] <bmack> starting k display manager( starting  powernowd.. ect/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor: dir non existant - * cpu frequency scaling not supported
[19:50] <rothchild> mauri not really no authentification but you can use the system settings to auto login a user
[19:50] <OilR0ck> mauri: System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager -> Convenience
[19:50] <rothchild> !info kdmtheme | mauri
[19:50] <rothchild> justincase
[19:51] <ubotu> mauri: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB
[19:51] <rothchild> no sorry ignore that
[19:52] <mauri> rothchild: thanks
[19:52] <mauri> OilR0ck: thanks. Are you able to help me to configure my webcam?
[19:53] <OilR0ck> not sure, I don't have a webcam...
[19:55] <mauri> OilR0ck: ok thanks however.....may I ask you another questons
[19:56] <OilR0ck> sure
[19:56] <mauri> OilR0ck: in reality they are 2 item, one question and one dubt. Starting from the question.....
[19:57] <mauri> OilR0ck: in storage media, using dolphin, i'm not able to see a floppy disk as i see the other mounted disk. I suppose the is a sytem directory
[19:58] <sourcemaker> !webcam
[19:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:59] <dreamcoder> does anyone else have problems extraciting multiple part rar files using kubuntu its near enuf impossible i am always getting errors
[20:00] <_gtt_> i never have any problems with it
[20:00] <_gtt_> do it regularly.
[20:00] <_gtt_> i am having problems browsing samba shares though
[20:00] <OilR0ck> mauri: i don't use floppies either but it doesn't there for me either. But I had it disabled in the bios, do you?
[20:01] <dreamcoder> do u use usenet _gtt
[20:02] <mauri> OilR0ck: no,
[20:02] <biovore> dreamcoder: unrar has problems with multipule file archives..  Works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't..  I think you can use winrar under wine to get it extracted.
[20:02] <_gtt_> sometimes, yes.
[20:02] <mauri> OilR0ck: it is enable in the bios...the question is different
[20:02] <dreamcoder> thank you very much biovre
[20:02] <dreamcoder> was tempted to go bk to windows for a breif min there
[20:03] <mauri> OilR0ck: in storage media it is not possibile to create directory, pehaps it is a system folder
[20:04] <mahasamoot> stupid irc question, when I exit kopete, I can't come back in... how do I reserve my name, so it lets me in agian?
[20:04] <alesan> !webcam
[20:04] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:05] <alesan> what is a KDE app t ouse webcam, the links in !webcam refer to a gnome program
[20:05] <biovore> and.. gnome programs work on kde..
[20:06] <_gtt_> i'm gonna pull my hair out
[20:06] <_gtt_> i'm in some serious need of help with this.
[20:06] <alesan> biovore: 1) I have a slow connectin and I do not want to download the gnome libs
[20:06] <alesan> 2) I do not want to load gnome and gtk libs in memory when all other libs are KDE
[20:06] <_gtt_> been working trying to access my samba shares on a new laptop using gutsy for almost a week now
[20:07] <dreamcoder> how about alt.binz as a news reader on linux or shud i use a native linux one.. i want to be able to use 256bit encyprtion
[20:07] <_gtt_> i like pan
[20:07] <_gtt_> or knod
[20:07] <_gtt_> e
[20:07] <biovore> pop open konqueror.. smb://<machine_name>/<share>
[20:07] <mauri> is it important to have a firewall also in linus
[20:07] <biovore> depends
[20:07] <_gtt_> WTF\
[20:07] <OilR0ck> mauri: try adding a new one in system settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystems
[20:07] <_gtt_> that crap works?!
[20:07] <biovore> yup..
[20:08] <sourcemaker> !guarddog | mauri
[20:08] <ubotu> mauri: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[20:08] <_gtt_> why doesn't it list the computers?
[20:08] <_gtt_> how can i get it to list tthe computers?
[20:08] <_gtt_> i just got through formatting and reinstalling for it.
[20:08] <dreamcoder> lol oops av got firestarter working on kde
[20:08] <biovore> thats not samba.. thats netbios then..
[20:08] <_gtt_> how do i get netbios to browse it?
[20:09] <mauri> OilR0ck: today I installed guarddog but it is not clear to me if a firewall is really necessary in linux
[20:09] <_gtt_> i enabled wins support on the server and specified the wins server by ip
[20:09] <biovore> konqueror can do it too..
[20:09] <_gtt_> how can i get konqueror to browse them?
[20:09] <biovore> system://remote/smb-network/
[20:09] <biovore> try that
[20:09] <biovore> works here
[20:10] <biovore> works in dolphin as well
[20:10] <_gtt_> v
[20:10] <_gtt_> An error occurred while loading system://remote/smb-network/:
[20:10] <_gtt_> The file or folder system://remote/smb-network/ does not exist.
[20:10] <sourcemaker> mauri: If you do not open services like a web, ftp , ssh server or what else... it is not really required...
[20:10] <biovore> system:/remote/smb-network/
[20:10] <biovore> one slash.. sorry
[20:11] <myk> hey, can someone help me figure out a dependency problem? trying to compile hydrogen svn... here's a pastebin of the error
[20:11] <myk> http://pastebin.ca/837586
[20:11] <sourcemaker> mauri: but I also use a firewall... guarddog is very simple to use...
[20:11] <hydrogen> you won't compile me either!
[20:11] <_gtt_> nope, i get the same error i've been dealing with
[20:12] <_gtt_> "unable to find any workgroups in your local network. this might be caused by an enabled firewall"
[20:12] <_gtt_> btw, when i p-ut that last one in it reverted to smb:/
[20:12] <biovore> myk: looks like the code is in a busted state..  try a check out again later.. might get fixed.. you check out a earler version..
[20:12] <myk> thank you
[20:12] <biovore> _gtt_: maybe.. firewall could cause a problem..
[20:13] <_gtt_> i just fresh installed it..
[20:13] <biovore> so no firewall then..
[20:13] <_gtt_> i didn't set one up
[20:13] <biovore> apt-get install smbfs samba-common
[20:13] <_gtt_> samba was the goal in this install... so i haven't done anything else
[20:14] <_gtt_> samba-common is installed.
[20:14] <biovore> don't really need one unless your running network services you don't want to have accessed from the outside..
[20:14] <biovore> smbfs?
[20:14] <_gtt_> i configured smb.conf for my workgroup name
[20:14] <mauri> sourcemaker: probably i'm wrong but I know that in linux there aren't virus  o something like that as in windows
[20:14] <_gtt_> i don't need smbfs unless i need to mount it, right?
[20:14] <biovore> smb.conf is for the sambe server..
[20:14] <biovore> I use smbfs and smbclient here..
[20:15] <biovore> I don't really uses the gui at all..
[20:15] <_gtt_> how do i configure the client to specify which workgroup ?
[20:15] <biovore> the client dosn't have a workgroup.. the server defines the work group..
[20:16] <_gtt_> well.
[20:16] <biovore> its just a browser..
[20:16] <_gtt_> i dunno about that, but i canat least access them with the MIME path
[20:17] <biovore> do a nmblookup <some windows machine name>
[20:18] <biovore> see if netbios is working right..
[20:19] <bmack> i cannot boot kubuntu i get this error
[20:19] <bmack> starting k display manager( starting  powernowd.. ect/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor: dir non existant - * cpu frequency scaling not supported
[20:19] <bmack> anyone?
[20:19] <dreamcoder> liek in window su have disk clean is there similar in linux or doesnt it need it
[20:19] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: No idea what disk clean is or does.
[20:19] <dreamcoder> juz cleans all temp files and logs etc
[20:20] <dreamcoder> just*
[20:22] <dreamcoder> oh that was the main reason i cam ein here... i wanted to know if it was better and what for what reasons it is better (if it is) to install ubuntu then install kde other than just installing kubuntu?
[20:24] <biovore> _gtt_: To search for computers in a samba network form the CLI you can do the following.  nmblookup -R <workgroup>
[20:24] <hydrogen> dreamcoder: well, you get stuck with all of gnome
[20:24] <hydrogen> which is pretty much a nightmare
[20:24] <biovore> note though that win95 dosn't play well..
[20:24] <hydrogen> people have contemplated suicide when they realized they had to look at gnome
[20:24] <dreamcoder> lol i have used gnome before thats why i use kde
[20:25] <cmacis> Yes, but isn't gnome more stable. I'm sick of the crashes in kde
[20:25] <dreamcoder> gnome has been around for many more years i think
[20:25] <dreamcoder> but
[20:25] <jhutchins> cmacis: my kde doesn't crash.
[20:25] <dreamcoder> i dont have a problem with kde
[20:25] <jhutchins> Actually, gnome is not as old as kde, and kde derives from cde which is older still.
[20:26] <jhutchins> However, age != maturity.
[20:26] <dreamcoder> i think kde is much better eye candy
[20:26] <misticwarrior> hey
[20:26] <jhutchins> cmacis: I would think that if you're having problems with kde, you'd be likely to have -more- problems with gnome, as gnome is not as integrated and efficient as kde.
[20:26] <biovore> hey is for horses..
[20:26] <jhutchins> cmacis: How about xfce?
[20:26] <biovore> :-P
[20:27] <biovore> xfce is drived from CDE
[20:27] <jhutchins> biovore: Actually, that's hay.
[20:27] <biovore> commond desktop Enviroment..
[20:27] <biovore> basicly converted CDE from motif to GTK
[20:27]  * jhutchins just managed to unload the 1400lb bale that's been riding around in his pickup all week.
[20:27] <misticwarrior> I need help in english... but I dunno where to go :D. I'm seeking a synonym of "p2p", or "sharing", or "network"... these things, but beginning by the letter "r"....... could someone help me ?
[20:28] <biovore> rsync ? :-P
[20:28] <jhutchins> Then there's Enlightenment 17.
[20:28] <biovore> yup.. there another oldie
[20:28] <biovore> been around for a long time..
[20:29] <jhutchins> biovore: I thought it was a fork of the desktop that Gnome used to run on.
[20:30] <caprikori> hey all
[20:30] <misticwarrior> biovore: rsync ? O_o not really what I want :D I need a good known word :D
[20:30] <jhutchins> misticwarrior: Try wikipedia articles on filesharing, or just google the words you used above.
[20:31] <misticwarrior> ok
[20:31] <jhutchins> I consider Gnome a relative newcomer in desktops.
[20:32]  * jhutchins has to go be a plumber. l8r.
[20:32] <caprikori> Does anyone know how to make Kopete's Cryptography plugin show the messages a bit better?
[20:34] <fadey> hi,everyone. where would I go to report kde4 bugs
[20:35] <fadey> ??
[20:35] <dreamcoder> i am having trouble playing .avi files i get like a purple colour with loads of other colours not in any order wil it be that i dont have the codec or that it is corrupt i have had alot of avi files like this
[20:35] <dreamcoder> and i have libxine1 etc installed
[20:35] <INFOEXCLUDED> a friend of mine tells me that you need to be a dope addict to use hardy heron
[20:36] <biovore> INFOEXCLUDED: I agree.. it just getting start on.. alot of problems and weirdness will be poping up..
[20:36] <INFOEXCLUDED> do you snort smoke or inkjet ?
[20:37] <Dragnslcr> dreamcoder- do you use Compiz at all?
[20:37] <misticwarrior> does "resource-sharing" exist ? I need one word to say that, with a "r" at the beggining :D
[20:40] <dreamcoder> nope
[20:42] <misticwarrior> arf :(
[20:43] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone hear if any problems with sound out of a wmv with totem?
[20:44] <jpatrick> Mr_Sonoma: #ubuntu would be a better place for that question
[20:45] <Mr_Sonoma> i asked there....didnt get a responce was hoping to hit someone here that may have known
[20:45] <Mr_Sonoma> =)
[20:47] <dreamcoder> strange a avi i tried to play a moment ago wudnt work now does
[20:47]  * dreamcoder rubs his noggin
[20:48] <sigma_123> why is der no easy way2 share a internet connection ova a network in kubuntu?
[20:49] <dreamcoder> i need an easy way to search .nzb's any ideas? i did use alt.binz but u have to pay for the nzbindex now
[20:52] <limac> is intel celerom m proc 64 bit?
[20:54] <biovore> limac: some are some arn't
[20:54] <biovore> I think the celeron m 523, 530, 520 are 64bit
[20:54] <biovore> intel IA-64 extentions enabled
[20:54] <limac> biovore: thx, i have 520
[20:55] <biovore> then I guess it is.. Or so intel cames..
[20:55] <limac> biovore; how can i install a 64-bit kubuntu edition?
[20:55] <merike> hello, I'm looking for help to get back my sound
[20:55] <biovore> get the 64bit cd and install it..  expect some pain on flash and some multimedia codecs though..
[20:55] <limac> biovore: not from internet?
[20:56] <biovore> no it on kubuntu's site..
[20:56] <biovore> just like the 32 bit cd..
[20:56] <biovore> just says AMD64 on the end
[20:56] <limac> then from where?
[20:56] <merike> I can't even hear test sound on system settings :(
[20:56] <limac> merike: you can't hear any sound?
[20:57] <merike> no, but it was there after install
[20:57] <limac> biovore: so I have to BUY a cd (for 64-bit)?
[20:57] <biovore> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/gutsy/
[20:57] <biovore> just click on download on kuubnu.org
[20:57] <biovore> select a location..
[20:57] <biovore> then its torwards the bottom..
[20:58] <biovore> the amd 64 bit edition..
[20:58] <limac> merike: are your drivers properly configured?
[20:58] <biovore> intel onboard audio?
[20:58] <merike> I wouldn't really know, I haven't done anything to them; yes intel indeed
[20:58] <limac> biovore; i have kubuntu 32-bit installed! but I am looking for a 64 -bit one!
[20:59] <biovore> that links has the 64bit on it..
[20:59] <biovore> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:59] <limac> where? it's only for AMD
[20:59] <biovore> AMD-64bit is intel 64bit there the same thing...  its call amd because they where first to market with it..
[21:00] <limac> ah! thx
[21:00] <merike> lspci recognises 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[21:00] <biovore> ok intel audio..
[21:00] <nomen> Oh, hi.. I'm new to IRCat all, and I would like to know of how to configure the music-center, that is used to have the sound card and plugged to the USB..
[21:00] <biovore> did you do a some updates recently?
[21:01] <merike> other than those automatic ones, no
[21:01] <nomen> Maybe someone could help me?
[21:01] <biovore> well sometimes it installs a kernel that dosn't support the intelHD audio adapter.. its weird..
[21:01] <merike> unfortunately I'm clueless when exactly it stopped working
[21:01] <biovore> probably a kernel update.. I had problems with this as well
[21:02] <merike> I have 2.6.22-14-generic at the moment
[21:02] <biovore> lsmod | grep intel
[21:03] <fuel> I am facing problems while trying to upgrade to the latest version.
[21:03] <biovore> snd_hda_intel         263712  6
[21:03] <fuel> every time adept says network problem or something
[21:03] <jussi01> fuel: are you connected to the net?
[21:03] <biovore> I use dist-upgrade using the command line..
[21:04] <fuel> jussi01:  I am !
[21:04] <fuel> let me get you the log
[21:04] <jussi01> fuel: ok, can you give us the exact error?
[21:04] <fuel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50012/
[21:04] <biovore> ah.. 3rd parity repos.. haha
[21:04] <biovore> probably won't upgrade correctly because of that..
[21:05] <biovore> !automatrix
[21:05] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:05] <jussi01> fuel: remove those lines from your sources and it _might_ help
[21:05] <fuel> okay i will try
[21:05] <merike> I have this module and several other that contain intel
[21:05] <jussi01> fuel: but I would recomend a backup and complete reinstall
[21:05] <fuel> reinstall of what ?
[21:06] <jussi01> merike: you have intel hda?
[21:06] <jussi01> fuel: kubuntu
[21:06] <fuel> why ?
[21:06] <jussi01> !intelhda | merike
[21:06] <ubotu> merike: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:06] <level1> Hi, my /tmp seems to be acting up and its giving me some trouble
[21:06] <fuel> Is the upgrade an unstable version
[21:06] <fuel> ?
[21:06] <level1> is /tmp usually list on df?
[21:06] <biovore> merike: can you running alsamixer from the command line?
[21:07] <jussi01> fuel: If you have used automatix, then its likely things are broken/will break during an upgrade
[21:07] <biovore> level1: anything that it's own mount point will be on df
[21:07] <alakhia> question about knetworkmanager: whenever I un-suspend my laptop, I don't have internet connectivity. I have to manually run "sudo /etc/init/networking restart"
[21:07] <fuel> jussi01: I have not used automatrix
[21:07] <alakhia> what could be the problem?
[21:07] <merike> I ran alsamixer earlier, but whatever I tried it seemed to make no difference
[21:07] <jussi01> fuel: ok. well the remove the third party repos, and retry your upgrade
[21:08] <biovore> alakhia: not really a problem.. just it comes out of suppend.. knetwork manger should redo the network lease..
[21:08] <fuel> ok!
[21:08] <level1> alakhia: you might try whitelist or blacklist your module on suspend
[21:08] <level1> alakhia: its under /etc/defaults/acpi-support
[21:08] <alakhia> level1: i have no idea how ... oh ok
[21:08] <vbgunz> I have an external USB drive. it is NTFS formatted. How can I get it to mount without requiring root to do so? I have this in my fstab line: /x /y ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[21:08] <level1> alakhia: do you know the module name for you wireless card?  what card do you have?
[21:08] <alakhia> level1: i also need to run "networking restart" on boot up ... could that be related?
[21:09] <level1> alakhia: oh... probably, yes
[21:09] <alakhia> level1: let me check hp's web site
[21:09] <level1> alakhia: it sounds like its not being run automatically, and obviously it should be
[21:09] <level1> alakhia: type "lspci" in a console window nad look for something that looks like a wireless card
[21:10] <level1> alakhia: for example, I have a: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[21:10] <alakhia> level1: shows Intel Corp, PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[21:10] <W8TAH> hi folks -- ive installed and run LMSensors on my laptop -- its only reporting cpu and MB temp -- it seems there shoudl be more (fan speeds etc) how can determine what else should i be doing to find other sensors
[21:11] <alakhia> level1: my output seems same as yours
[21:11] <alakhia> level1: except for 02:00.0 part which is different
[21:12] <level1> alakhia: thats good, its a good card
[21:12] <level1> alakhia: anyway.... you module is ipw3945... but I don't know what your problem is
[21:12] <level1> alakhia: but, you could modify a few scripts to force networking to work
[21:12] <alakhia> level1: hmm, ipw3945 shows up in lsmod
[21:13] <level1> alakhia: to get it working on startup, try putting a file in /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart
[21:13] <level1> alakhia: actually, don't do that
[21:13] <alakhia> level1: what should this file run?
[21:13] <alakhia> oh, ok
[21:14] <level1> alakhia: well, I forgot it needs to run as root... hmmm, what runs at startup?
[21:14] <alakhia> level1: exactly ... which is why it is irritating having to type passwd everytime
[21:14] <fuel> jussi01: ah! disabling third party repositories works
[21:15] <fuel> thanks!
[21:15] <level1> alakhia: well, the other thing is to modify /etc/acpi/sleep.sh put a line at the very end "/etc/init.d/networknig restart"
[21:15] <jussi01> fuel: :)
[21:15] <level1> alakhia: that will restart networking after resume from suspend
[21:15] <jussi01> fuel: I think maybe the upgrade page says something about that.
[21:15] <level1> alakhia: what do you mean? why do you have to type passwd everytime?
[21:15] <fuel> oh
[21:15] <alakhia> level1: yes, for sudo
[21:15] <fuel> I will check that out
[21:16] <alakhia> level1: everytime i un-suspend or boot up, that i
[21:16] <level1> alakhia: um, well, you should only have to run the passwd command once in your life, to set the root password
[21:16] <jussi01> !upgrade > fuel
[21:16] <level1> alakhia: however, you might have to type your password after suspend
[21:16] <alakhia> level1: still have to type password for sudo
[21:16] <level1> alakhia: passwd is a shell command, you know that, right?
[21:16] <pjfloyd> how do I configure to use the PC clock set to UTC?
[21:16] <jhutchins> Actually, daemons shouldn't need root password.
[21:17] <level1> alakhia: anyway, just add that line to sleep.sh and it will work
[21:17] <level1> jhutchins: really?
[21:17] <alakhia> level1: i think you are misunderstanding ... i meant passwd as abbrev for password
[21:17] <jhutchins> acpi runs as root, so when it runs a script it doesn't need a password.
[21:17] <alakhia> level1: not the command to set password
[21:17] <level1> alakhia: don't use that abbreviation, it will confuse peopule
[21:17] <alakhia> level1: sorry! :(
[21:17] <level1> jhutchins: yes, but if you put a line in .kde/Autostart, it will be run as a user, not as root
[21:18] <fuel> jussi01: thank you. See ya later
[21:18] <jhutchins> True.
[21:18] <jussi01> fuel: :)
[21:18] <alakhia> level1: i've added the networking restart ... it's a hack but I hope it works
[21:18] <level1> jhutchins: how could we have the command /etc/init.d/networking on every boot?
[21:18] <alakhia> level1: thanks for your help ... let me suspend and see what happens
[21:19] <jhutchins> level1: put it in rc.local
[21:19] <jhutchins> It will run as root.
[21:19] <level1> alakhia: put /etc/init.d/networking restart at the very end of /etc/rc.local
[21:20] <jhutchins> So your network doesn't start at boot now, but will work if you restart it?
[21:20] <alakhia> level1: and what about sleep.sh?
[21:20] <level1> alakhia: there too
[21:20] <level1> alakhia: rc.local is for startup, and sleep.sh is for after suspend
[21:20] <alakhia> jhutchins: exactly ... once kde boots up, i don't get networking
[21:21] <alakhia> jhutchins: if i run "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it works
[21:21] <alakhia> jhutchins: i have a feeling that networking starts but just doesn't do anything
[21:21] <jhutchins> alakhia: Well, it may not work then if you need to run it _after_ kde.
[21:22] <alakhia> jhutchins: well, worth a shot ... problem might be with knetworkmanager
[21:22] <snowgoose> i ahve  problem  with  avg
[21:22] <snowgoose> wants  permissiom  to change
[21:22] <tB> On my system, when I set a window to another desktop, it still shows on taskbar on all the other windows... ^o)
[21:23] <tB> Does anyone know how to only see the windows open on the specific desktop you are viewing?
[21:23] <jhutchins> I'm on a different distro, but on mine local runs last (99) while dm runs at 54.
[21:23] <jhutchins> So local would run after kdm, and should work.
[21:24] <alakhia> level1: just un-suspended and sleep.sh fix works! Thanks!
[21:24] <level1> I logged off a few minutes ago, and when I tried to log back on, X said that /tmp was unwritable.  I had to restart...  I think I still have the problem, because I'm not getting favicons in konqueror
[21:25] <snowgoose> can some one help me out?
[21:25] <level1> alakhia: great
[21:25] <jhutchins> alakhia: Yes, I would suspect knetworkmanager too.
[21:25] <level1> snowgoose: we don't understand your problem, could you explain it again?
[21:25] <level1> jhutchins: its an easy target
[21:25] <jhutchins> alakhia: On my laptop it wants to use the obsolete bcm43xx drivers instead of the new b43.
[21:25] <snowgoose> when i  click update   in avg it tells me i dont  got permission
[21:26] <alakhia> jhutchins: is it better to disable it altogether?
[21:26] <jhutchins> tB: compiz?
[21:26] <jhutchins> alakhia: That would be something to try, but your solution works.
[21:26] <tB> jhutchins, nope, not running it.
[21:26] <alakhia> jhutchins: yeah ... i don't want to break it again
[21:27] <level1> does ubuntu support avg?
[21:27] <level1> !avg
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <vbgunz> what is a great anti-virus application for kubuntu?
[21:27] <alakhia> jhutchins: the boot up test is the only one remaining to do
[21:27] <vbgunz> klamav seems to be freezing up :(
[21:27] <level1> vbgunz: I just assume you don't need one
[21:27] <Schuenemann> vbgunz, why you need one?
[21:27] <level1> linux is an anti-virus application
[21:27] <vbgunz> for external NTFS drives with Windows backups
[21:28] <level1> although it seems to not like /tmp
[21:28] <Schuenemann> level1, maybe the machine is a gateway
[21:28] <jhutchins> vbgunz: clam is pretty well respected.
[21:28] <INFOEXCLUDED> join #clam
[21:28] <level1> Schuenemann: well, theres a difference between a firewall and an anti-virus app
[21:28] <alfonso> me pueden decir canal en español
[21:28] <jhutchins> tB might be something configurable in the panel menu.
[21:28] <jhutchins> !es | alfonso
[21:28] <ubotu> alfonso: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:29] <vbgunz> man, I told it to scan a USB 2.0 NTFS drive, and the interface just froze on me. I keep telling it quit in the system tray, but it's gray and refuses to budge from there :/
[21:29] <Schuenemann> level1, imagine the machine is gmail's. You don't want your windows users downloading windows' viruses
[21:29] <level1> Schuenemann: but, isn't that a firewall, or am I just an idiot?
[21:30] <jhutchins> There have been a recent run of Mac viruses, so assuming you're safe because you're running linux is no-longer good enough for a real production environment.
[21:30] <jhutchins> As Schuenemann says, in a mixed environment you need to stop the Windows viruses.
[21:30] <Schuenemann> level1, isn't a firewall supposed to prevent intrusions? Maybe I am the idiot
[21:30] <Schuenemann> :-)
[21:30] <level1> jhutchins: i have a hatred of anti-virus software; using it makes your computer fell like its a facist regime
[21:30] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: I run clam on my fileserver, and a stand-alone firewall.
[21:30] <tB> jhutchins, Ahh, under options I assumed not to check.
[21:31] <limac> biovore; hey, but is there any way i can double check if my proc is capable of 64-bit? (but i am pretty sure it is celeron 520)
[21:31] <Kohlrabi> wouldn't you need root/sudoer privileges do really destroy system critical stuff?@virus
[21:31] <tB> jhutchins, Thanks. Under kde panel configuration.
[21:31] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, interesting. What do you serve?
[21:31] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: I also run Norton on the XP workstations.
[21:31] <level1> maybe we should just design operating systems tthat don't run arbitrary code from the net?  sounds like a plan
[21:32] <biovore> limac: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:32] <bmack> i cannot boot kubuntu i get a error
[21:32] <bmack> starting k display manager( starting  powernowd.. ect/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor: dir non existant - * cpu frequency scaling not supported
[21:32] <Schuenemann> level1, well, they're not supposed to
[21:32] <bmack> how do i fix it?
[21:32] <vbgunz> really, klamav is not quitting... :(
[21:32] <snowgoose> levell    so there is  no way to give  avg pemison
[21:32] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: It's for a small law office.
[21:32] <limac> biovore: yup it is 520: so are u sure it is 64-bit?
[21:32] <TuxMan> I need help! I try to update my 8.04 and it says it will break the system!
[21:32] <level1> snowgoose: you could try running avg as root
[21:33] <snowgoose> ok
[21:33] <snowgoose> levell  how i set it as root?
[21:33] <Ayabara_> after trying out kde4, my kde session complaints that it can't write to $HOME/.kde config directories
[21:33] <level1> snowgoose: kdesu avg
[21:33] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, do all computers there use windows?
[21:33] <TuxMan> hm. first, can someone tell me how to check if the one I have is alpha 2?
[21:33] <Schuenemann> the workstations I mean
[21:33] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: server, firewall, and my workstation are linux.
[21:33] <level1> Ayabara_: most people run kde 4 as a different user
[21:33] <biovore> limac: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/celeron_m.htm
[21:34] <level1> Ayabara_: check the permissions on /.kde
[21:34] <Ayabara_> level1, I guess I should have to...
[21:34] <jhutchins> vbgunz: You're probably just as well off running clam at the console level without trying to integrate with kde.
[21:34] <Ayabara_> too, I mean
[21:34] <limac> thx biovore
[21:34] <vbgunz> anybody know why some nodes in klamav are blue?
[21:34] <biovore> limac: bios and mobo may not do the 64bit mode though..
[21:34] <limac> biovore: so i am trying out 64-bit kubuntu!
[21:34] <vbgunz> jhutchins: yeah, am thinking of that
[21:34] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, well, at least yours is linux :-) Is it your office?
[21:34] <limac> biovore; what do u mean?
[21:34] <level1> Ayabara_: an early version of kde 4 would delete peoples data; you don't want that
[21:34] <biovore> limac: If the live CD boots.. it means you have a 64bit computer..
[21:35] <jhutchins> vbgunz: I didn't even know what klamav _was_ until I looked it up.
[21:35] <limac> biovore: my fingers are already crossed! :0
[21:35] <level1> what is the state of 64 bit ubuntu?  is it usuable?
[21:35] <Ayabara_> level1, no. I just tried it out for a couple of minutes, and decided I will wait til it's released
[21:35] <biovore> limac: 64bit support requires you cpu and all the rest of the system and do 64bit address scheme
[21:35] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: Nope, just a client.
[21:35] <Ayabara_> level1, now I kinda just want to go back to where I was...
[21:35] <vbgunz> heh, a front end to clam, seems decent
[21:35] <level1> Ayabara_: well, try ls -l ~/.kde and see what it says
[21:35] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Except it's not working for you.
[21:36] <limac> biovore: what's ur opinion on 32-bit vs 64-bit kubuntu?
[21:36] <dreamcoder> is there a speed increase in using 64bit? i am assuming it will be about 20% ?
[21:36] <biovore> level1: I am running kubuntu on a E3850 here..
[21:36] <jhutchins> vbgunz: You really don't have to check every operation like you do in windows, because linux is structured differently.
[21:36] <Ayabara_> level1, drwx------
[21:36] <biovore> There are some weirdness with flash and multimedia codecs to get them to work since there 32bit..
[21:36] <jhutchins> limac: If you needed 64bit linux, you would know.
[21:36] <level1> biovore: apparently flash and java arn't perfect yet, among other things
[21:36] <ubuntu_> ey guiz, i really need some extra-help in here! how can i recover my previous installation of kubuntu?
[21:37] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I killed it, ran it again on the external device and rather than say "quarantine" all files found (which seem to make it freeze), I said to ask, it seems to be working far better... maybe it cannot quarantine files on an NTFS disk, although I have rw on it
[21:37] <merike> hello, back after restart, turned out that disabled modem in BIOS was the biggest problem, currently mp3-s are somewhat crackling though
[21:37] <limac> jhutchins: but how is it better than 32-bit?
[21:37] <ubuntu_> i installed windows and i lost my boot!
[21:37] <level1> ubuntu_: what do you mean recover?  what happend to it?
[21:37] <biovore> level1: yes..  well java there is a 64bit port now..  flash is still emulated via netscape-wrapper
[21:37] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: 64's aren't inherently faster, the main thing is they can address more memory.
[21:37] <level1> !grubfix | ubuntu_:
[21:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:37] <level1> !grub | ubuntu_:
[21:37] <ubotu> ubuntu_:: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:37] <biovore> limac: is really..  no unless your doing mad number crunching..
[21:37] <biovore> (isn't really)
[21:37] <dreamcoder> yea i know about the memory just thought it would, i am using 64 kubuntu at the min
[21:37] <ubuntu_> iexactly
[21:37] <jhutchins> limac: 64's are an advantage when doing certain types of processing on large datasets/files.
[21:38] <alakhia> level1 and jhutchins: I just rebooted and I have networking! Thanks both of you.
[21:38] <nuxil> hi all
[21:38] <dreamcoder> and i have 32bit firefox with flash plugins for flash, and i am using 32bit java for frostwire
[21:38] <jhutchins> alakhia: Great!
[21:38] <level1> alakhia: hacking is always the solution. Also, brute force
[21:38] <biovore> bigger hammer method..
[21:38] <nuxil> does anyone know of a tool that allows me to grab youtube videos?
[21:38] <ubuntu_> what can i do to recover my grub?
[21:38] <dreamcoder> yes
[21:38] <limac> jhutchins: ah ok!
[21:38] <alakhia> the funny thing is that knetworkmanager shows "No active device"
[21:38] <vbgunz> heh, the very first file found is marked as a virus :/
[21:38] <level1> biovore: yoqu are obviously not using a big enough hammer
[21:39] <dreamcoder> download helper nuxil
[21:39] <biovore> dosn't firefox have a utube vid grabber?
[21:39] <dreamcoder> get itoff firefoz site
[21:39] <dreamcoder> firefox
[21:39] <level1> alakhia: maybe you can close it and reopen it?
[21:39] <nuxil> dreamcoder, ok i'll look into that.
[21:39] <dreamcoder> u can download videos off any embeded video site ;D
[21:39] <limac> biovore jhutchins: so 64-bit one is better than 32-bit? overall
[21:39] <limac> :?
[21:39] <alakhia> i'm not touching it ... maybe when I feel brave ;-)
[21:40] <Schuenemann> ubuntu_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:40] <dreamcoder> onlt thing i dont likeis cant get java to work in firefox but.. i dont use it so
[21:40] <biovore> limac: no..  probably want to stick 32bit unless you know what your doing..
[21:40] <level1> alakhia: knetwork mangare doesn't really have very much power, it just delegates to NetworkManagerD
[21:40] <nuxil> !helper
[21:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:40] <biovore> limac: no reall advantage for the normal users.. and there are more headaches
[21:40] <nuxil> dreamcoder, ??
[21:40] <merike> any ideas what could cause poor sound quality with mp3-s that sound nice on portable player?
[21:40] <dreamcoder> oh i am on about 64 bi firefox nuxil
[21:40] <dreamcoder> lol
[21:41] <ubuntu_> Schuenemann: thak you :D
[21:41] <biovore> merike: probably some weird mixer setting..
[21:41] <dreamcoder> download helper works and it is a plugin from the firefox site
[21:41] <level1> merike: what media player are you using? and what speakers?
[21:41] <Schuenemann> merike, maybe PCM is too high? Once that was my problem
[21:41] <limac> biovore: i mainly do programming, use blender to create and animte 3d modells
[21:41] <dreamcoder> i use it alot
[21:41] <biovore> limac: in that case.. stick the 32bit..
[21:41] <level1> limac: 64 bit might help on blender, but probably not worth it
[21:41] <dreamcoder> i do alot of video encoding.. a hell of alot 32 or 64?
[21:41] <biovore> unless your running more then 4GB of ram.. no reason..
[21:42] <level1> I heard that when you switch to 64, you half your effective ram
[21:42] <level1> because everything takes up twice as much space
[21:42] <Schuenemann> is there any stable 64 bit OS yet?
[21:42] <level1> Schuenemann: ha!
[21:42] <biovore> kubuntu 64bit works fine..
[21:42] <limac> biovore level1: so 64-bit has more advantage in blender and not for programming?
[21:42] <biovore> gentoo 64bit works fine as well
[21:42] <Schuenemann> level1, ha is an OS?
[21:42] <level1> Schuenemann: I not in the opinion that there is no stable 32 bit operating system
[21:43] <dreamcoder> i have been suing 64 bit kubuntu for quite a while now.. no problems i have had
[21:43] <level1> Schuenemann: I'm of the opinion that there is no stable 32 bit operating system
[21:43] <biovore> limac: I don't think 64bit  has any advantage in blender..
[21:43] <jhutchins> Iteresting, this appears to be a web-based youtube downloader: http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php
[21:43] <merike> using Amarok and a Trust headset, what exactly is pcm, when I make it less then sound get rather quiet
[21:43] <level1> merike: pcm is part of the volume control
[21:43] <biovore> there is master as well
[21:43] <dreamcoder> http://www.downloadhelper.net/welcome.php?version=2.5.3 <-- video downloader
[21:43] <TuxMan> .... can someone help me install kde4 on Hardy? when I try to install kde4 packages, it says it will break the system.
[21:44] <biovore> !hardy
[21:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:44] <limac> but would u guys suggest me to try it out, you know as like 10 gb partition. btw i have 1.5 gib ram
[21:44] <merike> master is at max anyway but without pcm it's very quiet
[21:44] <level1> limac: you can try it if you want, just to see, but its nots really useful yet
[21:44] <merike> using KMix
[21:44] <level1> merike: try setting master to about half and pcm to about half
[21:44] <Schuenemann> merike, PCM is Pulse code modulation. I don't know what exacly that means. The higher the value, the higher the volume. But, if it's value is too high, sounds get distorted.
[21:45] <camilla> Hello All
[21:45] <mahasamoot> I'm also having trouble w/ KMix
[21:45] <Schuenemann> merike, try PCM at about 60%
[21:45] <limac> level1: i guess i'll just try it out
[21:46] <mahasamoot> sometimes it has no effect, and bounces between 0 and 11 % when I try to change the volume w/ my keyboard
[21:46] <mahasamoot> mute has no effect, but it says mute on/off
[21:46] <limac> level1level1: but is there anything that u can't do in 32-bit that can b done in 64-bit?
[21:46] <merike> it truly sounds better with pcm at 60%, any specific reason to suggest that value?
[21:47] <dreamcoder> how come suse 64bit java and flash etc work fine
[21:47] <Schuenemann> yes, that's the value that worked with me hahaha
[21:47] <dreamcoder> kubuntu flahs and java hate it
[21:47] <level1> limac: use 5GB of ram
[21:47] <ubuntu_> i don't know if everything is ok with the recover of grub. i get this message. is everything ok? did i recover grub? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50018/
[21:47] <level1> limac: so, if you happen to have 5GB of ram that your just not using, maybe its worth it
[21:47] <merike> I see :D
[21:48] <level1> dreamcoder: kubuntu isn't perfec
[21:48] <camilla> I Need some help please. My installpaket Adept manager has kolapsed. In the terminal window, it says that line48 is korrupt, but I cannot find anything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:48] <dreamcoder> ohi know dont get me wron gi aint slagging it off
[21:48] <limac> level1: but my most worry is in resizing the hd after i decide to delete it using gparted
[21:48] <dreamcoder> i love kubuntu
[21:48] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: What if you were to try booting the system now?
[21:48] <dreamcoder> reason i swtiched from Yast
[21:48] <dreamcoder> to apt
[21:48] <dreamcoder> i was using SuSE for ages
[21:49] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: i just what to know if i did everything ok,so i can move to that next step.
[21:49] <camilla> talking to me? :)
[21:49] <level1> limac: well, if you want to be experimental, you have to take some risks... just back everything you value up... make sure to get .kde if you use kmail.
[21:49] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: did i get everything right now?
[21:49] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: You'll know when you reboot.
[21:49] <Ayabara_> level1, did the permissions on .kde tell you anything?
[21:49] <ubuntu_> jhutchins:ok thank you :)
[21:49] <camilla> I tried to reboot but I still coulnt read
[21:49] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Honestly, it says it worked, it looks fine to me.
[21:49] <limac> level1: ur right i guess i do have to take some chances! :)
[21:50] <level1> dreamcoder: I actually kinda like debian, I might go back.... theres a lot of things that happen in kubuntu that I can't fix, but in debian most stuff is fixable
[21:50] <camilla> But then I started Adept, Ill try again
[21:50] <level1> Ayabara_:
[21:50] <jhutchins> Mandriva rocks.
[21:50] <level1> Ayabara_: well, it seems to be writable; I don't really know what your problem is
[21:50] <ubuntu_> thank you all, beautifull people!! i'm really starting to love Kubuntu :)
[21:51] <limac> how do u get wireless in debian?
[21:51] <TuxMan> hellooooo... can anyone answer my question?: How do I get KDE 4 on Hardy Heron? I tried installing the kde4 packages but they said they would break my system.
[21:51] <limac> level1 ^^^^^6
[21:51] <Ayabara_> level1, hm. ok. thanks anyway
[21:51] <level1> cam
[21:51] <level1> TuxMan: ask in #ubuntu+1  ... is there a
[21:51] <level1> is there a #kubuntu+1
[21:52] <TuxMan> I'll check. TuxMan away!
[21:52] <level1> limac: wireless in debian is the same as ubuntu
[21:52] <level1> its the same distribution. just with different window decorations
[21:53] <limac> level u mean like just click on the wireless icon?
[21:53] <level1> limac: what does ^^^^^6 mean?
[21:54] <level1> limac: theoretically
[21:54] <limac> level1; welll
[21:54] <limac> u no
[21:54] <Schuenemann> to look above, I think
[21:54] <level1> it has knetwork manager, etc
[21:54] <limac> level1: typos :)
[21:54] <level1> I see
[21:55] <level1> i need to write a script that translates irc speak into clean, grammically correct and properly capitalized english
[21:55] <level1> maybe replace some words with synonyms that sound cooler, like "question" with "inquiry"
[21:56] <Schuenemann> I replace some in amsn
[21:57] <dreamcoder> does paypal charge for anything? like just for having an account
[21:58] <Schuenemann> if it's a personal account, no.
[21:58] <Schuenemann> it'll be better if you read their webpage
[21:58] <dreamcoder> because i am wanting to donate some money to alt.binz so i can use the NZBindex function thats all u have to update to get the new version which lets u use it
[21:59] <Ayabara_> I followed the instructions on the kubuntu site to install kde4 rc2. Is there a site with instructions on how to uninstall?
[21:59] <nuxil> hmm. i need a tool that can dl videos like on youtube.. i tried youtube-dl but it will only dl from youtube.. is there a similar tool that dl from other places too?
[21:59] <dreamcoder> nuxil i told ya use download helper
[21:59] <Schuenemann> nuxil, www.keepvid.com
[21:59] <dreamcoder> i use it
[21:59] <nuxil> ok.. i thought it was in adept.. i didnt see it there,,
[21:59] <dreamcoder> no
[22:00] <dreamcoder> its a plugin for firefox
[22:00] <nuxil> greasemonkey =
[22:00] <nuxil> ?
[22:00] <level1> Ayabara_: well, basically, sudo aptitude remove all the packages you installed, but that doesn't solve your problem
[22:00] <ubuntu> i need help!!! i-m the guy of the grub problem. it didn-t work
[22:00] <dreamcoder> firefox - tools - addons - get extensions - find download helper
[22:00] <ubuntu> can anyone REALLY help me_
[22:00] <ubuntu> _
[22:00] <dreamcoder> install
[22:00] <dock> @ Ayabara, well this should work, try with synaptic, just to remove kde 4-desktop
[22:00] <dreamcoder> then its pretty easy to use
[22:01] <Ayabara_> level1, I know, I'll fix the other stuff as well :-)
[22:01] <ubuntu> can anybody help? i need to recover my grub
[22:02] <somekool> hi
[22:02] <Schuenemann> ubuntu, I think I used this one when I need it: http://manetho.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/recuperando-o-grup-apos-reintstalacao-do-windows/
[22:02] <nuxil> dreamcoder, this one ? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006
[22:02] <somekool> is it a good time to ask for some help ?
[22:03] <dreamcoder> yea
[22:03] <dock> is it installed on MBR? ubuntu
[22:03] <ubuntu> and i really need help, not links to read. i have done that in these last hours and with no results
[22:03] <Schuenemann> !ask | somekool
[22:03] <ubotu> somekool: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:03] <somekool> I installed Ubuntu 7.10 and then I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop because I did not like the gnome experience.
[22:03] <ubuntu> Schuenemann> i did thatm it didn-t work
[22:03] <nuxil> dreamcoder, will it work for ffox 2 version 2? i see its for 1.5
[22:03] <dreamcoder> i am not sure u will have to read up
[22:03] <ubuntu> i-m not familiar with the konsole
[22:03] <Schuenemann> ubuntu, how come, if I just gave you the link?
[22:03] <somekool> since I did that, It feels like GDM is still trying to start and now, I am getting an error message saying that X is already running.
[22:04] <ubuntu> i did some google before...
[22:04] <dreamcoder> oh yea
[22:04] <dreamcoder> sorry read ur question wrong
[22:04] <somekool> I can just do CTRL-ALT-F7 to access my KDM but the error always stays on CTRL-ALT-F9 ... how can I fix that?
[22:05] <ubuntu> Schuenemann but i will try one more time. i can you help me with this_
[22:05] <Schuenemann> ubuntu, oh well, that's what worked to me. Are you sure you tried that one?
[22:06] <velh0> Schuenemann> i-m sorry, i though that was another link!
[22:07] <velh0> Schuenemann> that i didn-t try. i will now
[22:07] <somekool> ok, I can see two rc script in /etc/rc2.d so it should be the problem
[22:07] <velh0> Schuenemann> thank you. i hope this one works, cause i-m getting tired of trying...
[22:08] <Schuenemann> velh0, blame windows
[22:08] <Schuenemann> it has no right to overwrite your MBR
[22:08] <Delvien> what is KDE's restricted manager?
[22:09] <jhutchins> level1: that translator you're looking for is called a "brain".
[22:09] <camilla> Hello again can someone please help me o reinstall Adept
[22:09] <combinio> i have hdd 149GB where linux takes only 120GB. is this possible to use that unused space somehow for files (movies, pictures, etc.?) ?? - it's totally empty as another partition
[22:09] <level1> jhutchins: is that a technical term?
[22:09] <biovore> Delvien: handles installing of close source to licensed devices.. like nvidia graphics driver..
[22:10] <Schuenemann> combinio, yes, of course
[22:10] <combinio> Schuenemann: how to ? :}
[22:10] <Schuenemann> combinio, format it using qtparted
[22:10] <Delvien> biovore lol woops said that wrong.. What is the restricted manager in KDE, meaning where can i find it and run it.. "/usr/bin/restricted-manager" does not exist on a brand new 7.10 install of kubuntu
[22:10] <jpatrick> combinio: make a partition on it and mount
[22:10] <jhutchins> combinio: gparted may be able to resize it.
[22:10] <combinio> Schuenemann: i mean i have 3 partition - main "/" second /home and that third unused
[22:10] <level1> combinio: is the extra 29GB a seperate partition, or is it part of your linux partition?
[22:10] <combinio> jhutchins: i just formated it to FAT32 system with gParted tool ;P
[22:11] <biovore> Delvien: in the system tray.. you have a thing that looks like a chip?
[22:11] <Delvien> biovore im giving KDE one more shot to not annoy the hell out of me, on a different computer so .. not in touch with all the KDE stuff
[22:11] <combinio> level1: separeted part.
[22:11] <dreamcoder> is there a shortcut to get the name of the person u r talkin to first?
[22:11] <dreamcoder> like Schuenemann: i mean i have 3 partiti
[22:11]  * jhutchins doesn't understand why someone would use a partition editor to create a filesystem isntead of mkfs, but oh well.
[22:11] <velh0> Schuenemann> what do i put in here? root (hdX,X)  my partition is sda5
[22:11] <combinio> can i resize my /home partition without losing data ? :D
[22:11] <Delvien> biovore after the first couple boots it goes away
[22:11] <level1> combinio: I've noticed that windows won't recongize a fat32 program formatted by linux, although linux can use it just fine
[22:11] <Delvien> biovore happens like that in GNOME too
[22:11] <level1> combinio: so find a window computer and reformat that partition using windows
[22:11] <Schuenemann> velh0, the one where kubuntu is installed
[22:11] <combinio> level1: i have only linux, no winXP :P
[22:12] <level1> combinio: then why would you ever need fat32?
[22:12] <jhutchins> combinio: Supposedly.  If you don't back it up before messing with the partitions you've no-one but yourself to blame though.
[22:12] <level1> combinio: that sounds like a personal problem :)
[22:12] <bmack> i cant boot kubuntu i get a error that say "starting k display manager( starting  powernowd.. ect/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor: dir non existant - * cpu frequency scaling not supported
[22:12] <combinio> level1: idunno - choose that type between ext3 , Fat32 etc ;P
[22:12] <Schuenemann> dreamcoder, type part of the name, then TAB. If you're lucky, your IRC client has that feature
[22:12] <biovore> Delvien: hmm.. not sure then..
[22:12] <jhutchins> Linux makes fat32 partitions just fine!
[22:12] <jhutchins> mkfs -t vfat
[22:12] <dreamcoder> Schuenemann: yay
[22:12] <dreamcoder> thanks
[22:12] <level1> combinio: unless you plan to share files with windows, theres no reason to have a fat32 partition
[22:12] <Schuenemann> combinio, I use FAT because I also have a windows partition
[22:13] <combinio> i just want to make that partion holding some movie stuff :)
[22:13] <velh0> Schuenemann> so              root (sda5,sda5)     ?
[22:13] <level1> jhutchins: well, my experience is that windows won't recognize it, but thats just my experience
[22:13] <combinio> Schuenemann: i see...
[22:13] <gtt> windows sees it fine
[22:13] <Schuenemann> velh0, in which line are you?
[22:13] <Schuenemann> at*
[22:13] <gtt> i use it on a dual boot partition
[22:13] <combinio> level1: so i guess u advise EXT3 part. ? :)
[22:13] <jhutchins> velh0: I think for grub that would be root (5,5)
[22:13] <velh0> Schuenemann> or              root (sda5,5)     ?
[22:13] <jhutchins> or root (hd5,5)
[22:14] <combinio> but if i have it already then how to mount ? :)
[22:14] <level1> combinio: absolutely... until ext4 comes out
[22:14] <level1> combinio: or reiser un-kills his wife
[22:14] <jhutchins> I don't believe grub uses sd
[22:14] <Schuenemann> velh0, it says you should type the output from the previous command
[22:14] <combinio> level1: understood :))
[22:14] <velh0> jhutchins i dont have any hd* . only sda*
[22:15] <chato> hola
[22:15] <chato> ke pasa peña
[22:15] <jhutchins> velh0: I don't think grub uses hd/sd, I think it uses hd.
[22:15] <level1> one of these days, reiser will un-kill his wife, then we'll all use reiser4
[22:15] <combinio> level1: do u know maybe how to mount that ext3 partiotn? cuz it is unmounted now (?)
[22:15] <Schuenemann> !es | chato
[22:15] <ubotu> chato: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:15] <jhutchins> velh0: You'll notice it's not sda1 but hd0,0.
[22:15] <chato> !es
[22:15]  * jhutchins uses lilo which uses the standard linux drive names.
[22:16] <level1> combinio: well, add it to your fstab, or type "sudo mount /dev/name of partition /media/mountpoint"
[22:16] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[22:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[22:16] <velh0> Schuenemann im portuguese, i understand that :) i just don-t know what it mean. what does it mean?
[22:16] <jhutchins> !pt
[22:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:16] <level1> jhutchins: best not to starve him
[22:16] <limac> can i get kde 4 on kubuntu gutsy, if yes how>
[22:17] <limac> ???
[22:17] <limac> :?
[22:17] <Schuenemann> velh0, huh... what was the previous command output?
[22:17] <stdin> limac: see the topic
[22:17] <biovore> limac: kde4 is very unstable.. and not really ussable yet..
[22:17] <jhutchins> limac: What part of it are you testing?
[22:17] <velh0> jhutchins i don-t have any hd nothing! only sda someting! i guess that-s because i have a SATA disk, right?
[22:17] <combinio> level1: it looks i have nothing like fstab ;P
[22:17] <jhutchins> velh0: grub doesn't care about the drive type, only it's bios numbers.
[22:17] <combinio> level1: also i don't have "mount point" :?:
[22:17] <level1> combinio: open up /etc/fstab
[22:17] <limac> jhutchins: not sure
[22:18] <level1> combinio: that file has instructions on how to mount the hard disks on your computer
[22:18] <biovore> yeah.. bios reorder the disk for sata on some systems.. makes it hard to figure out whats going on..
[22:18] <combinio> level1: ok then :) thanks for help ;)
[22:18] <level1> combinio: well, you have to read between the lines.  Whats the name of your new partition?  sda1 or somethnig?
[22:18] <jhutchins> velh0: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Device-syntax
[22:18] <combinio> level1: hda5
[22:19] <combinio> it is written in gParted
[22:19] <level1> combinio: good.  "sudo mkdir /media/hda5 && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hda5"
[22:19] <velh0> Schuenemann> its Error 15: File not found
[22:19] <level1> combinio: that will mount it
[22:20] <Schuenemann> argh
[22:20] <level1> !fstab
[22:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[22:20] <velh0> Schuenemann> what does that mean???
[22:20] <combinio> level1: works :)
[22:20] <Schuenemann> something went wrong, certainly
[22:20] <combinio> level1: there is now one folder there "Lost and found"
[22:21] <velh0> Schuenemann> sorry my bad i was wrong
[22:21] <level1> combinio: of course it works, I'm perfect.  <dignified stance>
[22:21] <combinio> level1: is possible to make it auto-mounting everytime i login my Kub.?
[22:21] <level1> combinio: ignore that, it seems to be something linux does for some reason
[22:21] <Schuenemann> velh0, why don't you paste everything in pastebin?
[22:21] <level1> combinio: yes, thats what fstab is for... look at what ubotu said a few moments ago
[22:22] <combinio> level1: oks :))
[22:22] <combinio> level1: thanks for help once more ;)
[22:23] <dreamcoder> is there any command in linux that will alow u to trash ur hard drive so nothing can be read off it agen?
[22:24] <velh0> Schuenemann> i hope its all ok now
[22:24] <jpatrick> dreamcoder: why would you want to do that?
[22:24] <Schuenemann> velh0, how did it go?
[22:24] <dreamcoder> not for anything ilegal wud be on my own hd
[22:24] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: For most modern drives messing with the low-level formatting can do that, but it's pretty advanced stuff.
[22:24] <sourcemaker> dreamcoder: shred... use with case !
[22:25] <Schuenemann> dreamcoder, what are you hiding, huh?
[22:25] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: There are DOD certified disk wipers available.
[22:25] <dreamcoder> hahah
[22:25] <velh0> Schuenemann> but i got this message> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[22:25] <sourcemaker> dreamcoder: shred is working fine... but it takes a long time...
[22:25] <Schuenemann> velh0, is it a different computer?
[22:25] <dreamcoder> nothing special just watched a few movies and was wondering
[22:25] <velh0> Schuenemann> is there any problem?
[22:25] <dreamcoder> i kno i was thinking something very quick
[22:26] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: Sort of a killswitch or booby trap, right?
[22:26] <Schuenemann> velh0, I don't remember taking any long time with me, but, well, wait...
[22:26] <dreamcoder> yea
[22:26] <dreamcoder> apart from explosives
[22:26] <dreamcoder> lol
[22:26] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: No, if an agency gets ahold of your computer, they're smart enough to pull the drives first and put them on special equipment to read them.
[22:27] <dreamcoder> expolsives it is then hahah
[22:27] <velh0> Schuenemann> i didn-t have to wait. i only got that strange message.
[22:27] <Schuenemann> velh0, well, if no error messages shew up, go test if it worked
[22:27] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: That certainly won't work.  The mag layer will survive.
[22:27] <Schuenemann> but, don't give up if it didn't :-)
[22:28] <velh0> Schuenemann> how? by reebooting the machine? or is there a command to test?
[22:28] <Schuenemann> even if you burn the disk? :-O
[22:28] <Schuenemann> velh0, the page says to reboot...
[22:28] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: has to reach a certain critical temperature.
[22:28] <Schuenemann> and it promises grub will be back :p
[22:28] <dreamcoder> how about a internal water pistol?
[22:29] <dreamcoder> haha
[22:29] <dreamcoder> or flame thrower
[22:29] <Schuenemann> dreamcoder, I think it's easier to respect the law :D
[22:29] <velh0> Schuenemann> yes it say-s. i-m sorry i didnt notice. see you in awile...
[22:29] <dreamcoder> no i wasnt on about me.. i just seen people on movies be like blah blah wondered if it was true
[22:30] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, how hot is it?
[22:30] <jhutchins> Thermite oughta do it.
[22:31] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: I'd have to look it up.
[22:31] <alesan> hi wasn't there a skyper version with webcam support?
[22:31] <Schuenemann> don't worry about that
[22:31] <alesan> skype
[22:31] <jhutchins> dreamcoder:  science, physics, and engineering are rarely consulted for movie scripts.
[22:32] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, lol, I don't think any technical subject is
[22:32] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: There are whole web sites dedicated to the impossible physics of movies, and there are impossible movie computer trick sites too.
[22:32] <dreamcoder> yea i guess, would be good though! i watched wargames, hackers and hackers 2 then was hooked on computers
[22:32] <dreamcoder> lol
[22:32]  * jhutchins was one of the people who _did_ wargames.
[22:32] <dreamcoder> not for the bad part but for the intellgience of the characters (actors)
[22:33] <dreamcoder> what do you mean you did wargames?
[22:33] <jhutchins> We hacked a DoD mainframe so we could play with three dimensional array programming (it was the only one that could handle multi-dimensional arrays at the time).
[22:33] <velh0> i'm the guy from the grub problems! everything is fixed!! :) :) :) thank you so much
[22:34] <Schuenemann> velh0, fine :-)
[22:34] <dreamcoder> department of defense? am i right? i am from the uk
[22:34] <jhutchins> velh0: Congratulations.  Consider the implications of what you have learned in regard to hacking the rest of your universe, not just your PC!
[22:34] <jhutchins> dreamcoder: Yep.
[22:34] <velh0> Schuenemann: thank you
[22:35] <Schuenemann> velh0, you just discovered windoze can't control you by erasing your boot options :-)
[22:35] <dreamcoder> well my only comeback is i made a slice of toast and made a program called hello world in visual basic haha
[22:35] <velh0> jhutchins: what do you mean?
[22:35] <jhutchins> velh0: Don't just hack your computer, hack your world!  If someone can build it, you can fix it!
[22:36] <jhutchins> velh0: You can even make it better!
[22:36] <velh0> Schuenemann: looool! yeah! i has really starting to loose my pacience... thank you for all the help. i'm saving the precious link you gave me :)
[22:36] <dreamcoder> how hard is it to learn python?
[22:36] <Schuenemann> velh0, you're welcome
[22:36] <dreamcoder> depends onthe person stupid question
[22:36] <velh0> jhutchins: that's the beauty of linux! :)
[22:37] <Schuenemann> dreamcoder, easier than C or perl, I suppose
[22:37] <velh0> jhutchins: i'm still windows dependent, but i hope to learn a hole lot more in linux enviroment. everything seems so beautifull!
[22:37] <camilla> Hello again :-)
[22:38] <camilla> Can someone help me with Adept?
[22:38] <camilla> Is has crashed, and wish to avoid reinstall
[22:38] <ardchoille> !adeptfix | camilla
[22:38] <ubotu> camilla: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:39] <camilla> A thx :D
[22:39] <ardchoille> yw
[22:39] <camilla> Hep but its not locked it's just dont open
[22:40] <velh0> does anyone knows a good program to copy an entire partition to a file, so one can recover it later? thank you...
[22:40] <camilla> But wait I will try the console thing
[22:40] <somekool> I have a problem with unicode stuff... under windows I copied some folders named in Japanese from my C: drive to a USB Drive (fat32 both), when I get into linux, my folder on my C: are perfect readable japanese. while the copy on my USB drive are just question marks ????????? any idea whats wrong ?
[22:40] <ardchoille> !sysresccd | velh0
[22:40] <ubotu> velh0: SystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[22:40] <ardchoille> velh0: PartImage
[22:41] <velh0> ubotu ardchoille thankyou!
[22:41] <ardchoille> yw
[22:41] <dreamcoder> when i grow up i want to be like you lot haha
[22:41] <dreamcoder> i am 24 lol
[22:42] <velh0> when i grow up i want to be LINUX lol!
[22:44] <camilla> Does anyone want to se what I got out of the console?
[22:44] <ardchoille> !pastebin | camilla
[22:44] <ubotu> camilla: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:45] <camilla> Ok tx again
[22:46] <ardchoille> camilla: Go ahead and pastebin the console output, it help someone here help you.
[22:47] <mahasamoot> how can I set num-lock to be on by default?
[22:47] <velh0> ardchoille: can i use PartImage to backup and recover the active partition were i'm working in?
[22:48] <camilla> Here is the URL   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50023/
[22:48] <dreamcoder> so does anyone use windows here still
[22:48] <ardchoille> !ot | dreamcoder
[22:48] <ubotu> dreamcoder: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[22:48] <jpatrick> dreamcoder: I don't
[22:48] <Schuenemann> !windows | dreamcoder
[22:48] <ubotu> dreamcoder: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[22:48] <jpatrick> poor poor bot :(
[22:48] <dreamcoder> i dont want help
[22:48] <Schuenemann> hey, who removed that part about the mental health institute?
[22:49] <camilla> Well windows is off topic :D
[22:49] <dreamcoder> i am very good with windows.. its linux i am intrested in
[22:49] <dreamcoder> thats why i am now a linux only os
[22:49] <ardchoille> camilla: What was the exact command you used to get that?
[22:50] <dreamcoder> with windows u need to reformat every month because everything slows down after time is that the case with linux
[22:50] <velh0> ubotu is not human! but he sure says some nice things ;)
[22:50] <camilla> Well...sudo fuser -vk/var/lib/dpkg/lock/;sudo dpkg
[22:50] <ardchoille> camilla: Did you put a hyphen before the "vki" bit (ex sudo fuser -vki)?
[22:50] <camilla> Was it wrong?
[22:51] <ardchoille> camilla: aha, put a space between -vk and /var
[22:51] <dreamcoder> also is there a webpage to put people through step by step of what do do to install al the codecs etc and i mean w32codecs not free ones
[22:51] <camilla> Ok..
[22:52] <ardchoille> camilla: "sudo fuser -vki" is a command and "/var/lib/dpkg/lock" is a path to a file
[22:52] <ardchoille> !restrictedformats | dreamcoder
[22:52] <ubotu> dreamcoder: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:53] <Schuenemann> how can I see the list of running processes?
[22:53] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: open a terminal and type: top
[22:54] <dreamcoder> so can the free codecs encode dvds etc
[22:54] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: But, there's also htop, which is much better, and you can install that if you want
[22:54] <ardchoille> !dvd | dreamcoder
[22:54] <ubotu> dreamcoder: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:54] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ps aux might also be good command in some use
[22:54] <Schuenemann> ardchoille, how to just get a list?
[22:54] <Delvien> Whats the best way to remove as much of KDE as possible ?
[22:54] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: see what I said
[22:54] <camilla> Can I uninstall the Adept package whith dpkg?
[22:55] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, how do I see if a specific string is there? is it that grep something?
[22:55] <Tm_T> camilla: yes, but why would you do that?
[22:55] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ps aux | grep foo
[22:55] <Tm_T> to see foo that is
[22:55] <Schuenemann> ps aux | grep mysql
[22:55] <Schuenemann> that, thanks
[22:55] <Tm_T> yesssir
[22:55] <ardchoille> camilla: Just out of curiousity, did yo run this entire command?  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:56] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, what is ps and aux?
[22:56] <Schuenemann> just to help me memorize
[22:56] <camilla> Gaa Ill will try again :-)
[22:56] <Jucato> ps = list running processes
[22:56] <mahasamoot> hello, I'm looking for help with a couple of keyboard issues
[22:56] <Jucato> aux - a, u, and x options for ps
[22:56] <Tm_T> Jucato: thanks :)
[22:57] <Schuenemann> hmmm alright
[22:57] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ps --help ;)
[22:57] <Schuenemann> yeah, I was wondering what ps mean
[22:57] <dreamcoder> so because i am using 64 bit i cannot watch some videos in firefox if i went to kubuntu 32 bit it wud work?
[22:57] <Schuenemann> I was thinking about something like lsproc or something
[22:57] <mahasamoot> my wireless keyboard has no leds, so I don't get any feedback
[22:58] <Jucato> Schuenemann: it's basically the same as if you pressed Ctrl+Esc in KDE ;)
[22:58] <mahasamoot> is there a way to get visual feedback on the screen when toggling num-lock, cap-lock?
[22:58] <ardchoille> dreamcoder: There's a way to get flash running in 64bit firefox, but I hear it's complicated. Try searching on http://ubuntuforums.com
[22:58] <Schuenemann> Jucato, I see
[22:58] <Tm_T> mahasamoot: yes, "keyboard status indicator" might be the right keyword
[22:59] <mahasamoot> Tm_T: thank you :-)
[22:59] <dreamcoder> i have flash working using 32bit firefox - its certian videos i cannot view it just doesnt show anything
[22:59] <Schuenemann> now, where is the information about which processes automatically start then the system starts up? I want to get rid of myslq
[22:59] <Schuenemann> mysql*
[22:59] <mahasamoot> also, how about setting num-lock at boot?
[23:00] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: update-rc.d --force mysql remove
[23:00] <camilla> Yes I'll will post it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50024/
[23:00] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: is to remove it
[23:00] <ardchoille> !info numlockx | mahasamoot
[23:00] <ubotu> mahasamoot: numlockx: enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-6 (gutsy), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB
[23:00] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: to list them, ummm
[23:01] <ardchoille> mahasamoot: Hmm.. that's for X11, not "on boot", sorry
[23:01] <mahasamoot> ardchoille: thank you :-)
[23:01] <camilla> My problem is that Adept donnot open when I try ; APT-databasen kunde inte öppnas. Det kan orsakas av felaktig inställning av APT eller något liknande problem. Försök köra apt-setup och apt-get update i en terminal och se om det hjälper för att lösa problemet.
[23:01] <ardchoille> camilla: Translation?
[23:01] <mahasamoot> the console was my next.. question, but I guess it's a smaller issue]
[23:01] <camilla> Swedish But it says that ATP-base cannot open
[23:02] <Schuenemann> looks like swedish is pretty verbose :-)
[23:02] <camilla> Well thwre is moore
[23:02] <camilla> :-)
[23:02] <dreamcoder> i am trying to get the xbox 360 security lecture to work but to no avail : http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEAllAlZVuRLhOzpWe.php
[23:03] <dreamcoder> think i might go bk to 32 bit or wndows lol
[23:03] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: indeed, it is, och jag tycker inte om det, javisst
[23:03] <velh0> see ya
[23:03] <camilla> "can depend on "wrongful" settings of ATP
[23:03] <velh0> happy new year ^-^
[23:03] <Tm_T> camilla: ummm, doesn't sounds like it
[23:03] <camilla> "try to run Apt_setup2
[23:04] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, I was kidding, I know she translated only the relevant part
[23:04] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: I know you were kidding :-P
[23:04] <Tm_T> camilla: run apt-get update, what does it return?
[23:04] <Schuenemann> oh well
[23:05] <batis610> i want to rip some episodes from a dvd with multiple laguages and subtitles... which can i use?
[23:05] <ScottG> My Xorg is busted.. can't start X..
[23:05] <ardchoille> !dvd | batis610
[23:05] <ubotu> batis610: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:06] <camilla> "couldn find the command
[23:06] <ScottG> what is the CLI command to start with basic graphics?
[23:06] <Tm_T> camilla: what?!
[23:07] <camilla> Well this is the problem with translated wesions. Now I have to translate it back arrgghh:-)
[23:08] <camilla>  apt_get update
[23:08] <camilla> bash: apt_get: kommandot hittades inte
[23:08] <camilla> "kommandot hittades inte"=could'nt find the command
[23:08] <Schuenemann> it's apt-get, not apt_get
[23:09] <camilla> I spell like shit, sorry bout that :-)
[23:09] <camilla> That figures arghh
[23:09] <Ayabara> level1, open for one more Q? if I don't care about losing my app-settings, will I get a fresh kde-start by deleting .kde and .kderc in $HOME?
[23:09] <camilla> Noob
[23:10] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, do you know how to list everything that starts up automatically?
[23:10] <Ayabara> if anyone else wants to reply, that's ok too :-)
[23:10] <camilla> E: .... unknown on line 48 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:11] <camilla> But I cannot find anything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:11] <Schuenemann> camilla, why don't you pastebin that file?
[23:11] <Schuenemann> what do you mean you can't find anything?
[23:11] <camilla> Its only one line
[23:12] <Schuenemann> paste it
[23:12] <camilla> Ahh I can't find anything in that directory
[23:12] <Schuenemann> huh?
[23:12] <Schuenemann> try kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:13] <Tm_T> !boot | Schuenemann
[23:13] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:15] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll install that bum
[23:15] <camilla> Ok here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50028/
[23:15] <Schuenemann> camilla, the file, not the command output
[23:15] <ardchoille> !baddevice | camilla
[23:15] <ubotu> camilla: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[23:15] <Schuenemann> it should've opened the text editor with the file
[23:18] <dreamcoder> is kubuntu as secure as kubuntu
[23:18] <dreamcoder> sorry
[23:19] <dreamcoder> is suse as secure as k
[23:19] <camilla> Thx, thx for you help
[23:20] <dreamcoder> just with the yast it seems easier to configure the firewall
[23:20] <dreamcoder> and more advanced than using commands
[23:20] <dreamcoder> other than using commands
[23:20] <Schuenemann> camilla, huh... where is the file?
[23:20] <Schuenemann> dreamcoder, I believe they're all secure, yes
[23:21] <dreamcoder> thanks sorry i ask alotof questions i kno
[23:22] <dreamcoder> also i have a sparew pc cud i make this into a dedicated firewall that is easy to set up
[23:22] <dreamcoder> and wud it be as good as a router baught from the shop
[23:23] <Schuenemann> I have no clue what that means
[23:24] <dreamcoder> spare pc*
[23:24] <dreamcoder> sorry
[23:24] <GWillakers> Reading the online manual I don't see mention of 'Smart Playlist'.  Does RB have them??
[23:24] <dreamcoder> and would it be as good as a router baught from the shop*
[23:25] <dreamcoder> also i have a spare pc could i make this into a dedicated firewall that is easy to set up
[23:25] <dreamcoder> i have really got to stop using slang
[23:25] <GWillakers> oops, wrong window!!
[23:32] <billybobo231> can anyone help me with compiling? every effort at compiling kdenlive results in errors like: "make[2]: *** [kdenlive/CMakeFiles/kdenlive.dir/krender.o] Error 1"   What is a "make[2] ...Error 1" ?
[23:33] <david__> you need to paste more output than that
[23:33] <billybobo231> ok, so its more deep-rooted...
[23:33] <david__> use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[23:33] <david__> then link us to that
[23:34] <billybobo231> would you be able to follow it if I pastebinned the final chunk?  i am wondering if i am missing a library, or if it is something in the application/code...
[23:34] <billybobo231> ok
[23:34] <david__> yep
[23:34] <david__> it's almost always a library
[23:35] <david__> btw, you do know kdenlive is in the repository?
[23:36] <ronnie_> hi, I'm considering going to buy the hp 4140 multi-function printer, any know if it works fully (scanner as well?) with my system= kubuntu 7.10 ??
[23:37] <billybobo231> david__: yeah but that kdenlive doesn't work for me :( its NTSC output is bad and the newer ones are much improved (but unreleased :()  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50031/
[23:37] <david__> I see.
[23:37] <billybobo231> well, the newer builds are improved overall, but still not the NTSC...
[23:38] <Weasel[DK]> trying to get kmyfirewall running but when commiting the rules i get this ->  Error: kdesu: Unknown option '-t'.
[23:38] <billybobo231> ronnie_: not sure at all, have you tried to google for posts about it?
[23:38] <david__> billybobo231: quickest thing to try is "sudo apt-get build-dep kdenlive"
[23:38] <david__> this gets everything you need to build the old one
[23:39] <billybobo231> ooh ok i'll try that... the new one has additional things i think, like unsermake and some others, but i have those already...
[23:39] <billybobo231> i think
[23:39] <david__> billybobo231: libmlt is one of the things you're missing
[23:39] <david__> probably libmlt-dev
[23:39] <ronnie_> ya 'ill look billy thx, tho ya always get mixed comments, some say the scanner won't work,
[23:39] <billybobo231> mlt is built with this script, presumably....
[23:40] <billybobo231> and the script is also building that pastebin
[23:40] <david__> it's a library this code uses, but possibly needs to be on your system for this code to use.
[23:43] <Weasel[DK]> someone knows why the -t option is missing in kubuntu's kdesu
[23:43] <billybobo231> ok i am trying again to build using this script, after the apt-get build-dep kdenlive command
[23:44] <billybobo231> Weasel[DK]: not sure but i think 7.10 is supposed to use 'kdesudo' instead of 'kdesu'
[23:44] <ronnie_> I don't really know a thing bout burning cd's, so here's a dumb question : if you burn over & over on a rewriteable cd do you eventually lose quality,??
[23:45] <billybobo231> ronnie_: i think in theory you have a good number before that happens, but you should 'blank' the CD between uses.  I've always found they get scratched too easily to make it worth more than a few burns, and overall not worth the price
[23:46] <billybobo231> ronnie_: have you observed them beginning to lose data?
[23:46] <ronnie_> ya ok I prefer cd-r's so I can't accidentally write over em : )
[23:47] <MGalaxy> anybody can see this website? http://www.kbfx.org/
[23:47] <ronnie_> no I never copied over one enough to see it lose quailty
[23:47] <kristian_> no its not working
[23:49] <Weasel[DK]> billybobo231, hmm no -t option either... seems that the kdesu command is hardcoded into kmyfirewall... i could take a look at the source i guess ;)
[23:49] <ronnie_> anyhoo im off to buy my first printer woohoo!, tho I'll check a few more sites to be sure the scanner's gonna work too : )   later linuxian's haha.
[23:56] <DarkTan> !wireless
[23:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:56] <MGalaxy> anybody can see this website? http://www.kbfx.org/
[23:57] <Scotty> MGalaxy, it does not load for me.
[23:57] <ardchoille> MGalaxy: Unknown host www.kbfx.org
[23:58] <Scotty> But Google has it cached if that helps? http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:2u2wTBGDHcMJ:www.kbfx.org/+kbfx&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[23:58] <sourcemaker> Are there known problems with firefox... I had 2 kernel panics while using firefox?
[23:59] <ScottG> In need of some serious help.
[23:59] <billybobo231> batis610: if you've not found something for DVDs, try k9copy...