[00:04] <hydrogen> grr
[00:04] <hydrogen> heres a belated rant
[01:37] <WorkingOnWis1> When I pick beagle to install via Synaptic, I am told that several package are not installable and beagle wont be installed. Is a repo dowm that can cause this?
[01:38] <bmk789> hardy 64-bit will be tickless, correct?
[01:38] <WorkingOnWis1> or is my system broke? Never can tell with betas...
[01:38] <WorkingOnWis1> tickless?
[01:38] <bmk789> the kernel
[01:39] <crimsun> bmk789: it already is, but yes.
[01:39] <bmk789> the new powersaving feature
[01:39] <bmk789> crimsun: ok thanks
[01:40] <bmk789> cant wait til april then, looking forward to the extended battery life
[01:40] <crimsun> (...you can already try Alpha 2)
[01:40] <bmk789> im setting up a vm for it now ;)
[01:41] <bmk789> since i dont want to completely rely on an alpha for daily stuff
[01:43] <WorkingOnWis1> what is the physical ram limit for 32 bit? I have seen 3, 3.4, 3.6-ish(??) and 4GB
[01:43] <crimsun> without PAE, 4 GB.
[01:44] <WorkingOnWis1> is there a performance advantage to running x64 Ubuntu as far as virtualization goes? Ubuntu host, Win guest?
[01:45] <crimsun> I have no experience, can't comment.
[01:46] <bmk789> WorkingOnWis1: theres not really any drawbacks to 64bit, so id go for it
[01:47] <crimsun> at least not for virtualisation IMO
[01:48] <WorkingOnWis1> bmk789: actually, I hit a major (to me) draw back today....java plugin is FUBAR in 64 bit. I know I can run 32 bit firefox, but not sure if thats any better...
[01:48] <WorkingOnWis1> so I'm considering stepping down to 32
[01:49] <crimsun> I'd recommend 32-bit for desktop straightaway.
[01:49] <bmk789> WorkingOnWis1: really?
[01:49] <WorkingOnWis1> at least till Ubuntu AMD64 is a bit more mature
[01:49] <bmk789> WorkingOnWis1: flash on 64bit has been exacly the same as on 32
[01:49] <bmk789> installed just as easy
[01:50] <bmk789> wait
[01:50] <bmk789> java
[01:50] <bmk789> my bad
[01:50] <bmk789> havent tried java yet
[01:50] <WorkingOnWis1> bmk789: flash is ok here, java ...hehe yeah...dont waste your time....
[01:50] <WorkingOnWis1> the plugins either dont work, or pretend to work but dont...
[01:51] <WorkingOnWis1> and java is pretty important to me. I wish it werent since I relly dont like it, but lots of web develpers seem to just love it!
[01:54] <WorkingOnWis1> so, short of running >4GB of ram, is there any advantage to using x64 right now over x32. I am on 64 now just so I can see it for myself, and unless I'm missing something, 64 bit is a waste of resources for my system. Turion x2 with 4GB ram.
[02:49] <Gnine> after upgrade, firestarter does not load
[02:51] <Gnine> i'll try reinstalling firestarter
[02:53] <Gnine> libhsqldb-java update issue: trying "partial upgrade" option fails
[02:59] <Gnine> removing firestarter via applications > add/remove fails. turns unresponsive
[03:02] <Gnine> system > about ubuntu   still refers to gutsy gibbon after upgrade
[03:11] <cafuego> How about you file bug reports as opposed to spamming the channel.
[04:00] <mohkohn> Is anybody sucessfully running vmware on the 2.6.24 kernel?
[04:00] <mohkohn> vmware workstation?
[04:35] <groovesalad> i ran "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdd1 /disk2 -0 force" to copy files from a windows hd, i also added a line to fstab, i deleted the line now that im done, but now it logs out as soon as i log in. i forgot to umount it, and i no longer have the drive. what should i do?
[05:01] <IdleOne> is it just me or has there not been any updates for the past 2/3 days?
[05:28] <r00723r0> Hi, I was upgrading to Hardy, and my computer froze. So I restarted. Now I can't do anything.
[05:29] <r00723r0> I am logged in but I don't have access to sudo.
[05:30] <r00723r0> Any suggestions?
[05:33] <r00723r0> Hello...
[05:38] <Toma-> Anyone got hardy installed in qemu?
[06:08] <windwiny-ubuntu7> Why not use VBox?
[06:11] <Laser87> r00723r0: type groups
[06:12] <r00723r0> Laser87: actually, right now I'm in the recovery console logged in as root.
[06:13] <Laser87> ok, then add your user to admin
[06:14] <r00723r0> My user is in admin.
[06:15] <r00723r0> It tells me it's unable to resolve my host.
[06:15] <r00723r0> Not that I can't login.
[06:16] <Amaranth> your /etc/hosts is broken
[06:16] <Amaranth> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[06:16] <Amaranth> 127.0.1.1       sorrow
[06:16] <Amaranth> make sure those two lines are in there, replace 'sorrow' with the name of your computer
[06:17] <r00723r0> It's there.
[06:20] <r00723r0> Ahh...
[06:20] <r00723r0> I had the host slightly wrong.
[06:20] <r00723r0> Now I can sudo.
[06:20] <r00723r0> But I still have no Internets.
[06:25] <fantum13> Hello, I believe I have found a bug in xorg, it isn't in Hardy, however. Would this be the channel where I could get some help as to how to reproduce it?
[06:25] <crimsun> erm, well, not really.
[06:26] <crimsun> if it's not reproducible in hardy, then you likely want to try #ubuntu-bugs
[06:26] <crimsun> keep in mind that despite it being 1:26 AM localtime, the active triagers likely are asleep or on holiday.
[06:27] <fantum13> well, its that time for me too. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. It might be reproducible in hardy though, should I let you know what it is and how to duplicate it?
[06:28] <r00723r0> Anyone know?
[06:29] <r00723r0> When I try to run /etc/init.d/networking restart, it tells me all of my interfaces are unknown.
[06:29] <r00723r0> The modules are there, and I modprobed them.
[06:29] <crimsun> fantum13: in that case, it's still best to use both channels.
[06:30] <fantum13> crimsun: I'm in #ubuntu-bugs, but what I need is a simple thing that isn't realy connected.
[06:30] <crimsun> r00723r0: you haven't modified interfaces(5), have you?
[06:30] <fantum13> How can I send a keycode to X?
[06:30] <r00723r0> crimsun: I don't even know what that means.
[06:30] <crimsun> r00723r0: i.e., you're just using default network-manager?
[06:33] <crimsun> fantum13: try xsendkeycode in the lineakd package.
[06:33] <fantum13> thanks crimsun, I'll do that.
[06:34] <crimsun> r00723r0: restarting the networking initscript doesn't match what you likely think it does now that Ubuntu uses network-manager by default.
[06:34] <r00723r0> crimsun: I am at a loss.
[06:34] <r00723r0> For words.
[06:34] <r00723r0> I have no clue what that means.
[06:35] <crimsun> r00723r0: further, if you have not edited interfaces(5) [/etc/network/interfaces], then you are barking up the wrong tree.  You want to force-reload dbus, then restart dbus.
[06:36] <r00723r0> I have not edited it but when I look it seems normal. What do you mean with the dbus?
[06:36] <crimsun> r00723r0: I mean that manipulating network settings if your install uses network-manager [it would by default] requires finagling dbus, not interfaces(5).
[06:40] <fantum13> crimsun, do you think you could help me with this, even though it isn't in Heron?
[06:40] <crimsun> sorry, but I have to catch the metro in a few minutes so I can up early
[06:40] <crimsun> can get up*
[06:41] <fantum13> alright, no problem
[06:41] <fantum13> could I ask a quick question about xsendkeycodes? you seem knowledgeable...
[06:43] <fantum13> specifically, my keyboard driver craps out and leaves this message in kernlog and syslog:
[06:44] <fantum13> Dec 29 00:12:35 Ashbringer kernel: [193932.022162] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd8 on isa0060/serio0).
[06:44] <fantum13> Dec 29 00:12:35 Ashbringer kernel: [193932.022170] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e058 <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:44] <fantum13> however, xsendkeycode gives me an error when I try to send db or e058, what is it I should be setting?
[06:44] <fantum13> *sending?
[06:46] <windwiny-ubuntu7> notebook?
[06:46] <r00723r0> crimsun: ...what?
[06:46] <fantum13> Yeah, HP pavillion dv2000.
[06:46] <r00723r0> I still have no clue how to fix my Webnets.
[06:47] <fantum13> r00723r0: NetworkManager uses the lo interface just about exclusively. restarting all those other ones won't fix the problem.
[06:48] <fantum13> You need to use the init script for dbus to force-reload and restart, according to crimsun.
[06:49] <r00723r0> OK, so I just restarted dbus, if that's what you're talking about.
[06:50] <windwiny-ubuntu7>  /etc/init.d/dbus ?
[06:50] <r00723r0> Yes.
[06:51] <windwiny-ubuntu7> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-all    -> reconfig keyboard ?
[06:54] <fantum13> I haven't modified it at all, and I want to reproduce the bug first.
[06:55] <r00723r0> windwiny-ubuntu7: me?
[06:56] <fantum13> r00723r0: no, that was at me I think.
[06:56] <r00723r0> Ahh.
[06:56] <windwiny-ubuntu7> :-D
[06:57] <fantum13> hm
[06:57] <fantum13> I can't get it to give me this erorr
[06:57] <fantum13> I want to feed it this "unknown keycode" but I'm not being able to
[06:57] <fantum13> would anyone mind if  pasted two lines?
[06:57] <r00723r0> fantum13: General rule is 3 lines tops. I don't know about this channel.
[06:58] <fantum13> okay, well, here goes
[06:58] <fantum13> Dec 29 00:12:35 Ashbringer kernel: [193932.022162] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd8 on isa0060/serio0).
[06:58] <fantum13> Dec 29 00:12:35 Ashbringer kernel: [193932.022170] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e058 <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:58] <fantum13> That's put in my syslog and kernlog at the same time my keyboard craps out.
[06:59] <fantum13> I'm trying to duplicate that and get that put in my logs again, but xsendkeycodes wont' send hex, and the decimal of d8 and e058 are both valid keys
[07:00] <fantum13> oh, thats why
[07:00] <fantum13> I need to send the scancode
[07:00] <fantum13> not keycode
[07:00] <windwiny-ubuntu7>  fantum13, keyboard layout choose?
[07:01] <fantum13> I want to reproduce the bug first
[07:01] <windwiny-ubuntu7> dmesg | tail
[07:01] <windwiny-ubuntu7> [17280.778152] atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xb3 on isa0060/serio0).
[07:01] <windwiny-ubuntu7> [17280.778157] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e033 <keycode>' to make it known.    -->> LIKE THIS?
[07:02] <fantum13> yeah, I get a message like that just as my keyboard stops functioning.
[07:02] <fantum13> Is that already fixed/posted somewhere?
[07:03] <windwiny-ubuntu7> ??  In my keyboard is special key, not work in Ubuntu and XP
[07:03] <fantum13> Well, that message is put in my logs right as X stops working with my keyboard.
[07:21] <r00723r0> My computer is telling me that "en_US" does not exist.
[07:24] <windwiny-ubuntu7> ... .UTF-8 ?
[07:24] <r00723r0> I don't know.
[07:25] <r00723r0> But I need to get my Intradust working.
[07:25] <r00723r0> Because I have more packages to upgrade.
[07:25] <timfrost> r00723r0: what program is saying that?
[07:25] <r00723r0> Gnome.
[07:25] <windwiny-ubuntu7>  en_US.UTF-8 ?
[07:26] <r00723r0> I don't know.
[07:26] <r00723r0> It said just "en_US".
[07:27] <timfrost> r00723r0: what are you trying to do?  Note that apt-get will report that translations don't exist - because en_US is the default for the files that apt-get/aptitude/synaptic uses
[07:28] <r00723r0> Nevermind, forget the language issue.
[07:28] <r00723r0> I need Internet.
[07:31] <timfrost> r00723r0: what is the problem with internet?
[07:31] <r00723r0> I don't even know. I just don't have it.
[07:32] <r00723r0> When I try to restart /etc/init.d/networking, it tells me none of the devices are recognized.
[08:03] <r00723r0> Hello? Any help?
[09:04] <hyper> hiho, when I encrypt my system then I can't boot any longer when I have my dvd-burner attached... a message comes hdc cannot be mounted or something similar.
[09:04] <hyper> however if I don't encrypt the system it can boot (the same message appears also upon installation)
[09:05] <hyper> where can I check if that bug is reported?
[09:13] <Gnine> synaptic, add/remove, firestarter and update manager are not loading/executing
[09:22] <Gnine> of which only add/remove actually opens UI at least. yet it does not function beyond app search
[09:38] <Gnine> correction: update manager initialize UI but when 'partial upgrade' selected it will just 'hang'
[09:47] <gozoani> hello
[10:09] <Gnine> synaptic, add/remove, firestarter and update manager are not loading and/or not working properly.  system > about ubuntu  still says "gutsy 7.10"
[10:11] <Gnine> current kernel load average: 3 users   2.26, 2.44, 2.07
[10:12] <Gnine> no other issues detected
[12:45] <tralala> hello ppl
[12:46] <tralala> all in this channel run hardy heron ?
[12:46] <rsk> nope
[12:46] <tralala> :P
[12:46] <rsk> but most i presume
[12:46] <tralala> any1 who can share bugs ?
[12:47] <rsk> launchpad can
[12:47] <rsk> but as a general rule in developments version, LOTS.
[12:49] <tralala> mine goes very good except 1
[12:50] <tralala> how can some1 search for bugs in launchpad ?
[12:50] <rsk> sec
[12:50] <rsk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/
[12:50] <tralala> tnx
[13:56] <IdleOne> !info lib64gcc1
[13:56] <ubotu> lib64gcc1: GCC support library (64bit). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.2-4ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 26 kB, installed size 92 kB
[13:57] <IdleOne> why do I need lib64gcc1 if I am running 32bit ?
[13:57] <Hobbsee> peverse logic
[13:57] <IdleOne> dist-upgrade just installed it for some reason
[13:58] <IdleOne> Hobbsee: I take offence to being called a pervert I prefer excentric :P
[13:58] <Hobbsee> :P
[13:59] <IdleOne> Hobbsee: I guess the answer is nobody really knows
[14:00] <IdleOne> well off to that place with the 4 letter word name ... have a good day folks
[14:04] <stdin> I think the real question is, why does libstdc++6 depend on lib64gcc1
[14:05] <Gnine> my update-manager is b0rked
[14:06] <Gnine> gives me a partial update complaint and dies
[14:09] <jussi01> Gnine: tried apt-get install -f ?
[14:26] <Gnine> no. i'll give it a try now
[14:26] <Gnine> thanks jussi01 . be back in a minute with results
[14:31] <Gnine> command returns : unable to resolve host (...)
[14:32] <Gnine> blood thickens
[14:32] <Gnine> sudo is not recognizing me ?
[14:32] <Gnine> now thats a joke
[15:34] <Arelis> Guys, Gutsy is a real unstable system.. can't you release critical updates to harden everything BEFORE the release of hardy?
[15:35] <bardyr> Arelis, whats the problem with gutsy?
[15:35] <Arelis> I've seen it breaking on me several times already
[15:35] <hit> #ubuntu for gutsy btw
[15:36] <tralala> it works for me with minus bugs
[15:36] <rsk> Arelis: what bugs?
[15:37] <nanonyme> Arelis, meh, it's software. softare has a habit to break
[15:37] <tralala> when i login in desktop a massage come up with US_english not supported and will use the default
[15:37] <Arelis> But that's my fault. I installed 20 window managers at the same time, and added an E17 repo. But, libraries were acting weirdly too, i couldn't start programs anymore. Also, the open-source 'radeon' driver keeps crashing and crashing. And i've searched the internet and saw a LOT of people have problems with Gutsy. Gutsy is easy to break. But, this is a system for beginners... but if you want to make begginners use it, then make the core rock
[15:38] <bardyr> Arelis, that is what hardy is for 7
[15:38] <bardyr> -7
[15:39] <Arelis> too bad it takes 6 months, because till that time, we all have an unstable system.
[15:39] <nanonyme> meh
[15:39] <nanonyme> keep with the old LTS ubuntu if you want stability
[15:39] <bardyr> Arelis, gutsy is fine here
[15:40] <nanonyme> what would it be, dapper?
[15:40] <bardyr> yes
[15:42] <nanonyme> so unless gutsy brings something you need and you prefer a stable system to an up-to-date one, just downgrade to dapper :)
[15:42] <nanonyme> then use hardy when it's ready
[15:43] <bardyr> or grab hardy now and have a unstable stable :D
[15:43] <tralala> there is no linux that works 100% :/
[15:43] <bardyr> sure their is
[15:43] <tralala> i am all ears
[15:43] <bardyr> tralala, and unmodified debian stable?
[15:44] <hit> hardy is stable for me now
[15:44] <tralala> does debian works with DVD-RW ?
[15:44] <bardyr> tralala, to install on?
[15:44] <bardyr> with*
[15:44] <tralala> no to format and write on it
[15:45] <bardyr> why woudnt it? k3b burns everything
[15:45] <tralala> nope
[15:46] <tralala> if u format with K3b disk will be unreadable
[15:47] <tralala> tbh im happy whith what i get with linux now but .... needs a few things more
[15:48] <Arelis> well, Debian doesn't work fine with my ATI card
[15:49] <Arelis> but hold on, i need to reboot
[15:49] <bardyr> Arelis, debian does not like closed source
[15:49] <tralala> what ATI do u have ?
[15:49] <Arelis> ATI Radeon 9600
[15:49] <Arelis> tralala: ATI Radeon 9600
[15:49] <tralala> did u tried the restricted ?
[15:50] <Arelis> i think i did, but i had problems with it
[15:50] <Arelis> anyways.. reboot
[16:10]  * Gnine considers changing nick to something female sounding
[16:11] <Gnine> arelis is a whackolis
[16:12] <Gnine> the 20 questions queen
[17:09] <txwikinger> Is there something broken with the bonobo package(s) on hardy?
[17:27] <Infecto> hello
[17:28] <Infecto> can some one tel me, can i run update-manager -d on kubuntu?
[17:28] <Gnine> i hope there is some kind of way of fixing "sudo: unable to resolve hostname [hostname]"
[17:29] <Infecto> add to /etc/hosts?
[17:29] <Gnine> upgrade b0rked update-manager along with firestarter and add/remove
[17:30] <nanonyme> check /etc/resolv.conf
[17:30] <nanonyme> to see if something borked dns
[17:30] <Gnine> 10-4
[17:30] <Infecto> so? i read topic but `im not sure :) can i or not?
[17:31] <nanonyme> it's a free internet
[17:31] <Infecto> or you recomend just simply edit sources and apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[17:43] <rothchild> with Hardy being the new LTS version will there be a simple upgrade route from Dapper?
[17:44] <Gnine> etc/resolvconf/update-libc.d contains avahi-deamon file only.
[17:45] <Gnine> there is only one instruction to check for dns in it. is that where the hostname should be specified as well?
[17:48] <LjL> rothchild: that should happen, yes
[17:55] <Gnine> there is no /etc/hosts folder in hardy
[17:56] <Gnine> however, etc/avahi has a config file which does not specify any hostnames
[18:02] <Gnine> ok.. found it.. etc/host present. was looking for a host folder .. :-/
[18:04] <Gnine> but sudo wont let me gedit it
[18:13] <dennda> the latest x.org (7.3) in hardy also has better hotplug-support for external displays / beamers, hasn't it?
[18:14] <dennda> (just interested)
[19:23] <Infecto> wlan0_rename wtf?
[19:23] <Infecto> whats that?
[19:24] <Amaranth> your udev rules are broken
[19:24] <Amaranth> you use iwl3945?
[19:24] <Infecto> yes
[19:24] <Infecto> so how to repair it?
[19:25] <Amaranth> look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:25] <Amaranth> see the wlan0 line? paste it here
[19:26] <Infecto> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:26] <Infecto> o ok
[19:26] <Infecto> i found it to :)
[19:26] <Infecto> thanks
[19:26] <Amaranth> no no, paste the line i asked for
[19:26] <Amaranth> you have to tweak it a little, i think
[19:26] <Amaranth> but i need to see what it is now
[19:27] <Infecto> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:13:02:56:ba:42", NAME="eth1"
[19:27] <Amaranth> actually just pastebin the whole file
[19:27] <Amaranth> !pastebin
[19:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:28] <Infecto> there are 2 lines
[19:28] <Infecto> only diffrence is betwene hw addr
[19:28] <Infecto> and eth1 eth0
[19:28] <Amaranth> right, eth1 is probably your wireless
[19:28] <Amaranth> comment that line out (put a # in front of it)
[19:28] <Infecto> yes
[19:28] <Infecto> always was
[19:28] <Infecto> thats all?
[19:29] <Amaranth> SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTRS{address}=="00:13:02:56:ba:4", ATTRS{type}=="1", NAME="wlan0"
[19:29] <Amaranth> add that line
[19:29] <Amaranth> err, i forgot the 2 at the end
[19:29] <Amaranth> should be 42, not 4
[19:29] <Infecto> ok
[19:29] <Amaranth> reboot
[19:31] <Infecto> i dont understand
[19:31] <Infecto> why change hw addres?
[19:31] <Infecto> whats the point?
[19:31] <Infecto> a
[19:31] <Infecto> ok
[19:31] <Infecto> sry
[19:32] <Infecto> i just wake up
[19:32] <Amaranth> i didn't change the hw address, that was a typo
[19:33] <Amaranth> we're changing you to wlan0 instead of eth1 and adding the type attr
[19:33] <Pici> I just changed my interfaces file instead. *shrug*
[19:33] <Amaranth> iwl3945 wants to be wlan0
[19:33] <Amaranth> Pici: to use wlan0_rename?
[19:33] <Amaranth> Pici: that's ugly :P
[19:34] <Pici> Amaranth: I know, but I didn't feel like figuring out the udev rule at the time
[19:36] <Infecto> hmm
[19:36] <Infecto> dont work
[19:36] <Infecto> now he add to this file other line
[19:38] <Infecto> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:13:02:56:ba:42", ATTR{type}=="801", NAME="eth2"
[19:43] <Infecto> ifup wlan0
[19:43] <Infecto> wlan0     no private ioctls.
[19:43] <Infecto> wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801
[19:43] <Infecto> wmaster0: unknown hardware address type 801
[19:55] <Infecto> no clue
[19:55] <Infecto> dont work
[19:59] <Infecto> i dont get it :)
[20:00] <Infecto> i can scan
[20:00] <Infecto> but from netowrk dont start
[20:00] <Infecto>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                                                                                                                    wlan1     no private ioctls.
[20:03] <Infecto> ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
[20:03] <Infecto> WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported
[20:03] <Infecto> WEXT auth param 5 value 0x1
[20:03] <Infecto> hmm
[20:04] <Amaranth> Infecto: Did you restart?
[20:04] <Amaranth> Infecto: You can't just start using it
[20:05] <Infecto> i did restart
[20:05] <Infecto> but
[20:05] <Infecto> that was other problem
[20:05] <Infecto> i must comment some settings in my wpa conf
[20:35] <compwiz18> #ubuntu.com
[20:35] <compwiz18> oops, sorry
[20:48] <ompaul> compwiz18, it is not a ubuntu channel
[20:49] <compwiz18> ompaul: I know, that person invited me and I was curious, I forgot to type the /join in front :)
[20:49] <ompaul> compwiz18, it won't exist for long
[20:49] <compwiz18> ompaul: yep, everyone is leaving/left
[20:49] <ompaul> :)
[21:11] <Infecto> mplayer can be installed on hoary?
[21:11] <Infecto> i see some dependencies problems
[21:25] <mphill> when i lock my screen I can't get back in, it just says checking password.  anyone else having this issue?
[21:49] <amblin> evo can't expunge imap folders in hardy, anyone have a fix?
[21:52] <cafuego> mutt or thunderbird
[21:52] <amblin> expunge from another client?
[21:53] <TuxMan> I am running Kubuntu 8.04, and i cannot install kde4 because I try to install the packages and they say they will break my system!!!!
[21:53] <TuxMan> :-(
[21:54] <TuxMan> can anyone help me?
[22:09] <cafuego> Not if you leave, no. And running a beta dist means stuff WILL break.
[22:18] <Infecto> [ 8080.657103] wlan1: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:18:39:c5:d7:a8)
[22:18] <Infecto>        [ 8080.657103] wlan1: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:18:39:c5:d7:a8)
[22:18] <Infecto> ups
[22:19] <Infecto> a loot of this message in dmesg