[00:00] ~sigh [00:00] Factoid sigh not found [00:01] LjL, the joke is dead, long live the joke [00:01] today is walk like a penguin day kinda [00:01] !joke [00:01] I'm alive! [00:02] ardchoille: forgive my brain, i can't keep up sometimes [00:02] No problem :) === LongPoin1yStick is now known as LongPointyStick [01:28] wii, i'm not in the mood really, go away [01:31] ??? [01:31] Madpilot, the person who just joined is more commonly known as wii [01:33] and is not getting unbanned, no matter what he says. [01:34] ah, one of those. [01:44] hmm, he is in #ubuntu [01:47] gone. [01:50] only problem with a host ban is he has a dynamic IP, only static part is AMarigot*.abo.wanadoo.fr [01:51] yup [01:51] that's how he got in anyway [01:51] yeah who cares [01:52] we could ban the entire IP range, but that's... extreme [01:52] or just ban *!*@*.fr [01:52] :) [01:52] Was he originally banned n #ubuntu and now he's back because of a dynamic IP? [01:52] yes [01:53] Coudln't that be seen as ban evasion? [01:53] and he's evidently nick-hopping as well. Meh. [01:53] well, he was originally banned in #k then everywhere else too [01:53] he's an old troll. don't worry about him. === stdin_ is now known as stdin [03:11] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [03:14] hi [03:15] got a question, i'd like to know how can I simulate a webcam on ubuntu to use msn messenger and send a video instead of a real webcam ? [03:15] hmm [03:15] need to be tested? [03:16] ? what do you mean by tested [03:16] euskadi, this isnt a support channel [03:16] this is a channel for what ? [03:17] euskadi, this is a communication channel for operators [03:17] why when i write : /j #ubuntu [03:17] im in #ubuntu-ops [03:17] euskadi: you'e been redirected here because of your ident, it's not acceptable in #ubuntu [03:17] i see [03:17] change it and reconnect [03:17] what shall i change it to? [03:17] disasterpiece: not you :) [03:18] ok [03:18] i've been directed here too [03:18] I can't get onto #ubuntu [03:18] saying my router has a bug [03:18] disasterpiece: someone needs to test you and let you back in, I can't, sorry [03:18] yeah me too [03:18] ok [03:18] disasterpiece, johnficca, did you read the topic and follow the instructions? [03:18] yes [03:18] sure did [03:18] I changed my port [03:19] as did i [03:19] then you need to wait for someone to test your connection [03:19] ok [03:19] ok then [03:19] i [03:19] what's the usual wait-time, if i may ask :P [03:20] test me oh mighty testers [03:20] no one answer me in #ubuntu [03:20] :-( [03:21] euskadi, you need to have patience. this is not a support channel [03:22] ie, you need to wait more than 60 seconds before giving up [03:22] site says an op needs to test you. seeing as there are none here, i'm guessing it might be a while :) [03:22] disasterpiece, i am an op, but i cannot remember all the strings [03:22] ahhhh ok [03:22] well i'll just chill here then [03:23] :) [03:24] disasterpiece, DCC test? [03:25] Madpilot, him and johnficca [03:25] yes please [03:26] elkbuntu, you remember if it's safe to do that here? At one point there was a fanged script running [03:26] Madpilot, the fanged script is no more, but you can PM them [03:27] it's best to /ctcp and /msg it [03:27] stdin, i think he wanted to test both at once ;) [03:27] well, that didn't knock either of you off, so all seems good [03:28] I'm not sure if nal.oth has his auto-kline thing going [03:28] he does not [03:28] DCC SEND 1234556778899876543222 [03:28] maybe he does [03:28] guess he dies [03:29] erm does .. [03:29] i thought he didnt :-/ [03:29] nalioth, i thought you killed that thing!!! [03:29] not server-wide, but for the channels he's in [03:29] oops [03:29] i went afk [03:29] he left ;( [03:29] disasterpiece, he got burned for testing you in the open [03:30] note to nalioth: please un-kline Madpilot :) [03:30] oh ok [03:30] so just wait? :{ [03:30] you've been tested, so if there's in #ubuntu op they can unban you [03:31] rob, ping ping ping? [03:31] how do i know if i passed the test? [03:31] disasterpiece, you're still connected [03:31] ah [03:31] cool [03:31] so just wait for the unban then? [03:32] it's a manual process, give it a sec [03:32] no problem [03:32] unbanned [03:32] awesome [03:32] thanks man [03:33] er [03:33] mam :) [03:33] :) [03:34] * stdin looks at the email sitting in his "ubuntu-irc" folder [03:45] * Pici snickers [04:13] hmm, is it just me or is the ubuntu pastebin the only one up atm? [04:14] well, out of it, .com and .ca [04:14] .com has been down for ages afaik [04:15] right, .ca is timing out for me [04:17] pastebin.us and pastebin.ca work [04:17] Whoa, I hadn't realised pastebin.com was ooc [04:18] ardchoille, yeah, i know. i was going to go steal the source [04:43] Gotta move my router. Going to knock out a wall and make this room bigger. Back soon :) [04:50] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu () === tritium_ is now known as tritium [05:36] In #kubuntu, jameswf-home said: ubotu: beer is good [06:59] * Madpilot mutters something unprintable about autokill scripts... [07:00] What should I do about n=Scotty@unaffiliated/scotty in #kubuntu? He keeps leaving and entering. Grnted it isn't his fault (Connection reset by peer) and I have tried several times to pm him and there's been no reply. [07:02] Madpilot: any news on web site stuff yet? [07:03] tonyyarusso, for Ubuntu Canada? Not a word. [07:03] elmo lies. [07:03] That's TWICE now that he's promised me he'd look into it the next day [07:04] orginal email was set to rt on Oct 4th or so, I fired off a "what's going on?' note in early/mid November. Nada, nothing and zip in reply. [07:10] * tonyyarusso sighs [07:11] ardchoille: banforward any disruptive machine fault folks to ##fix_your_connection [07:11] ardchoille: please be sure they are very disruptive [07:12] nalioth: Thank you. But, I'm not sure I'd call what he is doing "very disruptive". I was just curious of the proper way to handle it. I'll keep your advice in mind for future reference, though. [07:13] nalioth: What sort of folks are usually the ones to provide servers for Freenode? How would one go about approaching an organization to see if they might be interested? [07:14] tonyyarusso: stability [07:16] I was considering the University of Minnesota. They already have an Ubuntu mirror, so seem a likely candidate. [07:22] nalioth: On an unrelated note, what is the current recommended way of securing IRC traffic, if possible? Obviously when I talk in #ubuntu it's public and logged, but what about messages I send with destinations of PMs or invite-only channels? Can I encrypt those? [07:25] tonyyarusso: nope [07:25] once your data leaves the tor node, it's all public [07:26] well, it's publically sniffable [07:26] gotcha [07:32] tor give you anonymity, not privacy [07:34] I was basically wondering if there was anything kind of like OTR for IRc. [07:36] OTR ? [07:37] Off The Record [07:37] it uses gpg to encrypt the conversation [07:37] of course both sides need to have the pidgin plugin installed [07:37] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [07:37] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [07:37] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [07:38] ah, so nice having n.alioth and the bots handle that automagically [07:39] --- FloodBot2 removes channel operator status from FloodBot3 [07:39] LjL: ^ [07:40] FloodBot3 didn't have op, I think it was trying to remove itself [07:40] Amaranth: It's not GPG, actually. [07:40] tonyyarusso: oh? what is it? [07:41] Amaranth: some other algorithm thingy. Why it doesn't use GPG for the long-term key I don't know, but the heavy lifting is done by a short term key, so that you can't prove after that fact that the conversation was by a particular person (unlike GPG) [07:41] silc? [07:43] If you have 45 minutes to kill, there's a video about it [07:44] * tonyyarusso fetches link [07:46] Good, I was looking for something to put me to sleep [07:47] Working on this DOM wrapper around GMarkup sure isn't doing it [07:47] http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/media/Off-the-Record%20Messaging:%20Useful%20Security%20and%20Privacy%20for%20IM / http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/files/ian-goldberg-otr.ogg.torrent / http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/files/ian-goldberg-otr.ogg [07:48] Sadly, you can't actually see what he writes on the whiteboard, so you get just as much usable content from an audio-only version that would be like 1/10 the download size. [07:48] I have an audio rip around somewhere I think... [07:49] eh, it's already half done downloading [07:50] Ye of fast connections :P [07:50] I found it though [07:51] 66 MB .ogg, or a 57 MB .mp3 [07:51] instead of the 463 MB video [07:52] who needs audio when you have 12mbit cable? :P [07:53] * tonyyarusso doesn't know his connection speed [07:55] Amaranth: shuddup [07:55] 15.6 Mbit, according to speedtest.net [07:55] Yay middle of the night connections [07:56] shuddup allowya [07:56] upload is lame though - 700 kbit, and this is pretty much the fastest time [07:57] hrmph [08:03] tonyyarusso: dang i've got 12mbit/512kbit [08:03] I'd go down to 6mbit down if I could get even 1mbit up [08:04] * tonyyarusso wishes things were more symmetric; doesn't understand why they're not [08:05] hrrrhhmmp [08:05] symmetry is expensive [08:05] how come? [08:07] Because they know they can charge you for it :P [08:10] what's the technical reason? [08:11] they don't want to install double the wire, just so you can have symmetry [08:12] But if I'm not downloading anything, there's a wire sitting there not being used, so why can't it be used for upload instead? [08:12] AFAIK all modern network media supports full duplex, no? [08:12] tonyyarusso, xdsl kit costs them a lot more and upstream costs them a lot more because of the methods used to interconnect carriers [08:12] I know with cable it's just because they allocate more of the 'channels' or whatever for download than upload [08:13] Amaranth: hmm...that's annoying [08:18] again it is because of the cost at interconnect to other carrier levels that they come up with this method of dealing with it [08:19] I remember in mid 90s reading telco addressed technical mags and they were on about hdsl and that never really saw the light of day as it would have killed the isdn business [08:46] ok so what did I say that was incorrect? [08:47] * JimmyDee is feisty feisty feisty [08:48] JimmyDee, that was politics [08:48] You've been knowingly tiptoeing on the edge of o4o looooooooong time [08:48] is there anything else? [08:50] I am terribly sorry but the truth of the matter is thats not a religion discussion its a wartime doctrine discussion, and not racially or religiously motivated, because I am a friggin jew, so thbbb [08:50] and the truth of the matter is "yes israel has nukes and thats why they exist" [08:53] hardly humanity methinks [08:54] me agrees [08:56] meesa tired [08:57] ompaul, i can tell he was in troll mood because of "* JimmyDee is feisty feisty feisty" [08:58] well he has to learn that humanity to others is humanity to others [08:59] how can we help, hangthedj [08:59] can someone test me for the DCCExploit? [08:59] ompaul: and he's back ;) [09:00] mc44, noted [09:00] there, i figured you didnt want it to be a personal thing :) [09:03] elkbuntu, ya but now let me know [09:03] I will be out of there for a while in the next hour and won't be back for a few hours [09:04] right, can you kline @97-86-161-*.static.stls.mo.charter.com :) [09:05] no [09:05] not staff [09:05] drat [09:05] :( [09:07] well consider he's static, he's probably gone through his ip reserves now anyway [09:08] he's on #u [09:09] clearly it's static for a given value of static [09:39] he's on #u [09:40] mc44, some people get multiple ips assigned ;) [09:41] Myrtti, he's not banned from there yet afaik [09:41] he's still on 253 so he's likely not going to bother again [09:41] just noting so ifthe ip's are still neede [09:41] d [10:08] hi, i had a DCC bug and i upgraded the firmware, how do i get back to #ubuntu? [10:09] you wait for a test [10:10] ok [10:11] you seem fine [10:11] thanks [10:11] unbanned [10:12] thank you elkbuntu [10:12] if ever you're behind a router you dont trust, use the alternative port, ok :) [10:12] ok [10:32] Ubotwo: join #kubuntu-fi [10:32] ;( === white_eagle is now known as whiteeagle-mk === whiteeagle-mk is now known as white-eagle [11:52] pleasepleaseplease let me see more like this: hello, can someone help me with a problem? i can`t install automatix and i don`t know why [11:52] elkbuntu, why? [11:52] yay! someone *can't* install automatix? [11:53] whiteeagle-mk, because automatix causes a huge proportion of our support queries [11:53] lolz === whiteeagle-mk is now known as white_eagle [12:01] white_eagle, there is no need for you to be in this channel. please move along [12:03] why? [12:03] I don't bother [12:03] white_eagle: /topic [12:03] oh [12:03] yes sorry [13:05] how do I begin to say I'm sorry? [13:06] by telling how sorry you are and about what [13:06] and what have you learned ;) [13:09] what can I say, I bent the o4o rules and I can't take it back. I know I did wrong [13:09] no excuses [13:11] I was a really crappy guest in you guys house [13:13] JimmyDee, thanks for the apology. however you do still need to wait through the punishment [13:14] great, would someone kindly tell me what that is? [13:16] JimmyDee, there is no set time, but considering it involved a ban evasion, it'll likely be some days yet [13:17] I ban evaded to attempt to appologize [13:18] that's not an excuse [13:18] no, its not [13:19] its an explaination [13:19] JimmyDee, you knew this channel was here, you had no need to break network policy [13:19] like I said before, no excuses, only regrets [13:24] he seemed nice [13:29] yeah, kahrytan apologised at one point too [13:30] hehe, kahrytan is gonna have such a shock when he gets to hawaii [13:33] his fellow lugmaster is a friend of dorothy :-) [13:38] dorothy? [13:38] he's already in hawaii afaik [13:39] friend of dorothy = homosexual :-) [13:40] and? [13:42] Hobbsee, i think it's a discreet way of saying gay ;) [13:42] and kahrytan is a mad christian homophobe :p [13:43] Gary, lawl [13:43] ahhhh [13:43] yes, if you're a homophobe, then you're going to be a bit put off by someone who's homosexual working with you [13:43] yep [13:43] and kit cannot wait :-) (kit is the other lugmaster) [13:43] however, for any random on the street, does it really matter who is gay, or not, assuming you have no wish for romantic attachment with them? [13:43] Gary, flaming homosexual? [13:43] which is why my "and" [13:44] er, "and?" [13:44] !seen Madpilot [13:44] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen madpilot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:44] grr [13:44] AndrewB: /msg seenserv seen [13:44] Gary, please tell me he's a flaming homosexual. it will be all the more funny [13:44] yeah Hobbsee [13:44] Hobbsee, true, but it makes a big difference to kahrytan [13:44] elkbuntu, more than that :-) [13:45] eeeeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent [13:45] !seen is The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen instead. [13:45] !seen is 'The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen instead.' [13:45] Hobbsee: was just to check if he had been unklined re: mail list [13:45] hrm... [13:45] now, why doesn't it like that? [13:45] !seen is The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen instead. [13:46] AndrewB, yeah, he was in soon after. someone must have pulled strings or something [13:46] AndrewB, yes [13:46] !seen is The seen function has not been operational for a long time. Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead. [13:46] I'll remember that, Hobbsee [13:46] Cool :) [13:46] ther ewe go. [13:46] Gary: I am in the place of dreams [13:46] ;) [13:50] AndrewB, why? [13:50] Cause I am in work ;) [13:50] meh [13:52] OK, quick question, #ubuntustudio-devel is an invite only channel. could we get ubotu in there? (we already have ubotu in #ubuntustudio) [13:53] jussi01: why is it invite only? [13:55] Hobbsee: Im not certain of the exact reasoning, but it has always been that way since I have been a member of the dev team. [13:55] strange. [13:55] good way to get people interested, i'm sure. [13:56] they been following the MS example, i see. [13:56] The was some issues when it was formed with a split, it may be because of that. [13:56] * jussi01 makes note to ask [13:56] it's technically within our jurisdiction anyway [13:57] heh, there is that [13:59] interesting modes: secret and invite only [13:59] stdin: yeah, its a little weird now I think about it. [14:00] its just always been that way. [14:00] very obfuscated [14:01] Well Ill check it out and let you all know exactly whats going on. [14:02] oh, joejaxx is here, so we can ask ;) [14:02] he is? wow :) [14:04] maybe he's shy :p [14:05] stdin: or asleep... [14:05] maybe's he's freaked at all you lot charging up at him all the sudden :p [14:05] [joejaxx] idle 00:00:04, signon: Fri Dec 28 05:47:56 <- he's not been idle long [14:10] attack of the clones? [14:33] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (replica) [15:33] * PriceChild grins at madpilot's k-lining and finds logs [15:34] PriceChild: woh, he was k-lined? [15:34] i hope he didn't say... [15:34] uhm, that. [15:35] grrrrrrrrrrrrr irclogs.ubuntu doesn't have quit messages [15:35] well, i don't have timestamps [15:36] but i have *all* quit messages. [15:36] including those in unrelated channels. [15:36] 3:28 utc [15:36] ... but i don't have dates in the timestamps *g* [15:36] he got back in though [15:36] i figure [15:37] ah, it was pretty intentional. [15:37] ah no, it was pretty mean on the part of the aussie. [15:40] well i thought the script *was* retired :-/ [15:40] elkbuntu: suuure. [15:43] yeah, if you search "auto-k-line" on google, we feature prominently [15:43] s/yeah/hey/ [15:43] sidlexy again [15:45] heh, anyway, bed, night [15:47] night elkbuntu [16:08] why do you think he was klined? [16:08] he said the magic words here [16:09] what magic words? [16:09] could you add a note to the !devilspie factoid that compiz users can access builtin window matching functionality in !ccsm ? [16:10] Tm_T: see logs [16:13] jpatrick: day? [16:14] Tm_T: 2007/12/29 [16:14] he said [16:14] thanks [16:14] DCC SΕND 1234556778899876543222 [16:15] except with a normal E [16:15] i guess. [16:15] i guess too [16:16] what kind of "E" was that? [16:17] nalioth: it was no E [16:17] a magic one [16:17] LjL: not as cool as DCC 53ND 1398234907612349086234 [16:17] ;) [16:18] !1337 | Tm_T [16:18] Tm_T: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357. [16:18] :P [16:18] is it bad that I could read that easily? [16:18] nop [16:19] I can't read that at all [16:20] leet is nigh-incomprehensible to us noobs, and nobody cares if your a leet haxor give it a rest. [16:21] I like that one. [16:21] Pici: thanks, now I know [16:21] anyone seen that romney spammer within the last couple hours? [16:21] you're the only person to have set off my hilight today [16:22] tomaw: You hilight on "leet haxor" ? [16:22] :P [16:23] :P [16:23] ardchoille: no, prolly 1337 h4x0r [16:24] hahaha [16:24] whatever that is [16:24] some of you youngs might exlain to me some day when I'm awaken [16:25] Yes, we old folks need to keep up with the times. [16:27] ardchoille: son, don't even try [16:28] hehe [16:29] * ardchoille will be 44 in 5 days [16:30] 0_0 [16:30] ardchoille: aahh, enjoy your youth :)) [16:30] ardchoille: do you live in a cryogenic chamber? [16:30] * nalioth runs [16:31] nalioth: I do, at times [16:31] nalioth: No [16:31] hehe [16:32] nalioth: I'm so old it took me a few mins to get that. [16:32] ardchoille: it's funny when in some web service, incl forums, you try to find your birth year from dropdown list and it isn't there [16:32] Oh my [16:32] Tm_T: And I thought I was old [16:32] Pici, come to -bots and get prepared for some pretty heaving coding :P [16:37]