[00:08] <tnguyen> hi anyone online
[00:10] <march> Good night :)
[00:14] <jonnyboy27> hi guys, any tips on where startup programs will be set? i've not got automatic session saving set yet when i log in, i get 4 instances of nm-applet (i installed for ease of connection to wifi) plus pidgin and firefox starting
[00:14] <jonnyboy27> i tried in settings -> sessions and startup
[00:14] <jonnyboy27> but no job
[00:14] <jonnyboy27> joy*
[00:14] <jonnyboy27> using xubuntu gutsy on a thinkpad T20
[00:15] <jonnyboy27> tia
[00:18] <zoredache> try doing a killall nm-applet
[00:18] <zoredache> and where you start the network manager use 'nm-applet --sm-disable'
[02:15] <neur1> what's a cool dock app to get/
[02:15] <neur1> ?
[04:09] <magic_ninja> ImportError: No module named gdkpixbuf
[04:37] <groovesalad> i ran "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdd1 /disk2 -0 force" to copy files from a windows hd, i also added a line to fstab, i deleted the line now that im done, but now it logs out as soon as i log in. i forgot to umount it, and i no longer have the drive. what should i do?
[06:02] <newbxubuntu> I read that ubuntu can handle ntfs now...couldn't find that info for xubuntu...did it not make it to the Gutsy ?
[06:15] <newbxubuntu> I was reading the 'install from windows' wiki...but I would prefer to use xubuntu if possible. I see it's listed in the ntfs-3g project, but is it already in the desktop cd?
[06:17] <newbxubuntu> it must be past everyones bedtime
[06:17] <crimsun> yes, it is already in.
[06:17] <crimsun> it was moved into the installer as of gutsy.
[06:18] <newbxubuntu> great, thanks, 1 more thing, do I need a swap partition?
[06:18] <crimsun> if you have very little RAM, it's a good idea.
[06:19] <newbxubuntu> can it be ntfs too?
[06:20] <newbxubuntu> I was assuming I could still mount a folder as swap that exists on another drive...
[06:21] <crimsun> I don't know offhand if swapfiles are supported in the installer, only swap partitions.
[06:26] <newbxubuntu> I have an old drive I guess I'll use for the swap then...
[06:27] <atarinox> anybody know why my volume control buttons would stop working after upgrading to Gutsy?
[06:27] <atarinox> on a Thinkpad
[06:27] <crimsun> which thinkpad?
[06:27] <atarinox> T22
[06:27] <crimsun> what's the SSID?
[06:28] <atarinox> erm...is that like the serial?
[06:28] <crimsun> lspci -nv|grep -a1 040[13]
[06:29] <atarinox> 00:05.0 0401: 1013:6003 (rev 01)
[06:34] <atarinox> any ideas? google came up w/ a few bug reports but nothing else...I checked and PCM is enabled
[06:36] <newbxubuntu> controlling by the volume control (once you add to the top bar) does not work either?
[06:36] <atarinox> newbxubuntu: no, that works. Just trying to get the buttons to work for convenience sake
[06:37] <newbxubuntu> I had to ask if you had picked the right device
[07:42] <bob2001> I need help installing xubuntu on a decTOP. I am following the howto at http://jsco.org/dectop/ but am using xbuntu 7.10 insted of ubuntu 6.06. I have got as far s booting from my flasdrive and started the install. When I get to that part where you fool the installer into thinking the flashdrive is a cdrom, I can not get it to mount my flash drive.
[07:44] <bob2001> using the command mount -t vfat /dev/sda /cdrom I get the error Mounting /dev/sda on /cdrom failed> No such device
[07:49] <Catoptromancy> bob2001, /dev/hda
[07:49] <Catoptromancy> err
[07:49] <bob2001> hda gives the same error
[07:50] <Catoptromancy> maybe /dev/sda2
[07:50] <Catoptromancy> I assume your at a command prompt
[07:50] <Catoptromancy> $lsusb
[07:52] <chris_does_plone> hi, anyone know about the HP Pavilion dv1000? - I downloaded Xubuntu but can't boot up - well I can but I get to a command prompt of types that I'm not used to... Thinking about downloading a different flavour of ubuntu unless some genius has can help this mac/pc muppet out :-S ;-D
[07:52] <bob2001> I am at the command prompt but it is not a complete install, just the a virtual terminal so lsusb is not found
[07:53] <Catoptromancy> try /sbin/lsusb'
[07:53] <Catoptromancy> chris_does_plone, you login?
[07:54] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromacy: no i dont get as far as a login
[07:54] <bob2001> nope lsusb in not in /sbin
[07:54] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromacy: sorry i forot the actual prompt it gave me
[07:55] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromancy: sorry misspelled your name :-/
[07:56] <Catoptromancy> !usbboot
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbboot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromancy: can i put xubuntu on my usb drive and boot from it ?-)
[08:00] <Catoptromancy> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xubuntu+usb+drive+boot&btnG=Search
[08:01] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromancy: yeah i have read about it i remeber (it was a couple of weeks ago i last tried installing) but got lost on the setting up bios bit - maybe should try agan, thanks
[08:01] <bob2001> Chris_done_plone, yes you can but you have to jump through a few hoops. I got ubuntu 606 to install off a flash drive but am having trouble getting Xubuntu to do it
[08:01] <Catoptromancy> cd is easier
[08:02] <chris_does_plone> Catoptromancy: as for cd i used magic disk or magic iso i forget, but it didnt seem sufficient, i dont have any real cds
[08:03] <chris_does_plone> bob2001: encouragingish :-)
[08:05] <chris_does_plone> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/ <--- looks promising :-)
[08:11] <bob2001> is there anyway to find out "where" my flash drive is? ie: sda1 sda2 sda? I have booted from it and started the install from it, so there has to be a way
[08:32] <lwells> where is the power management in xubuntu
[09:41] <julien73> hello
[09:47] <julien73> anyone here?
[09:58] <predaeus> !ask
[09:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:59] <julien73> so... anyone here?
[09:59] <predaeus> no
[10:00] <predaeus> julien73, just ask your question
[10:00] <predaeus> if anybody knows the answer they will tell
[10:02] <julien73> ok, thought everyone but you was afk or something
[10:02] <predaeus> julien73, it is general practice to just ask your question in IRC channels. If somebody knows the answer, they will tell it.
[10:03] <julien73> I'm a quite in a deep doo right now, for some reason the top and bottom taskbars don't show up anymore
[10:04] <julien73> ah, my general practice on IRC is to start with a polite "hello" to check if anyone is around, guess times change ;)
[10:04] <predaeus> julien73, you say hello and ask in one statement :-D
[10:04] <predaeus> does "ps -e" show a process called xfce4-panel?
[10:05] <predaeus> or does System->Process Manager show it?
[10:06] <predaeus> ah well bummer, sorry.
[10:06] <julien73> can't access the Application menu anymore :)
[10:06] <predaeus> can you run commands on the command line interface?
[10:06] <predaeus> yea sorry, I've just realized that now
[10:06] <julien73> alt F2? yes
[10:07] <predaeus> huh, I don't know I've remapped keys.
[10:07] <julien73> that's how I launched firefox and pidgin
[10:07] <predaeus> try running xfce4-terminal with alt F2
[10:08] <julien73> oh neat... no wonder "terminal" wouldn't work ;)
[10:08] <predaeus> if you have the terminal open. Enter "ps -e" (without the "s) and hit enter
[10:09] <predaeus> you should get a list of running processes, if the output does not fit into the terminal window you can scroll with the Shift+PageUp or Shift+PageDown keys.
[10:09] <julien73> done, let me see
[10:09] <predaeus> does it list an entry called xfce4-panel?
[10:09] <julien73> indeed, it's not there
[10:10] <predaeus> hm try starting it by entering xfce4-panel and hitting enter.
[10:10] <predaeus> if there is an error condition, it should show the output and reason in the terminal window.
[10:10] <julien73> hooray!
[10:11] <predaeus> so the panels appear correctly?
[10:11] <julien73> now to know why it stopped working all of a sudden
[10:11] <julien73> yep yep, big thanks to you
[10:11] <predaeus> yes, and you will need to find a way to make it permanent
[10:11] <predaeus> so it starts on reboot.
[10:11] <predaeus> hm I don't know the official way to fix that, but you can just add xfce4-panel to your startup applications
[10:12] <predaeus> Settings->Autostarted Applications
[10:13] <julien73> hmmm there is a thread here mentioning .xinit, do you know where that file is located?
[10:13] <julien73> dang I should install catfish
[10:13] <predaeus> I think /etc/X11/xinit is meant.
[10:14] <predaeus> probably with .xinit they would mean a user local config file. Usually user specific config files go into your home directory with a leading dot '.' so it is a hidden file.
[10:14] <predaeus> .xinit would be a hidden file.
[10:15] <predaeus> also look through bug reports on launchpad to see if this problem is mentioned there.
[10:16] <predaeus> I'll catch some food, so I'll be afk for a few.
[10:16] <julien73> alright, going to dig some more in the meantime, thank again
[10:59] <julien73> hi again, apparently xfce4-session fails to start, any idea where I should start?
[11:13] <predaeus> julien73, hm nah sorry no idea. Probably ask in #xfce too they seem to have waked up. Tell them what you know already.
[11:14] <julien73> predaeus: ok thanks I will
[12:33] <graabein> hi, i wonder how come i get two icons on desktop for the ipod when i insert it on usb?
[12:34] <iCEifer> can anyone suggest a good gnome MP3/CD player?
[12:35] <graabein> i like banshee and the default rythmbox is okay... maybe quod libet?
[12:38] <iCEifer> let me check those out...thanks
[12:48] <graabein> anyone know why the shut off don't work? it logs out but hangs on the xubuntu unloader...
[13:21] <iCEifer> can anyone help me install a GTK2 theme? I have the tar.gz theme but don't have a theme manager or anything that I know of to install it?
[13:22] <iCEifer> do I have to install metacity or something like that first?
[13:42] <iCEifer> can anyone help me install a GTK2 theme under xubuntu? I already have the tar.gz for the theme but do I need to install metacity or something to install and use it?
[14:40] <julien73> hi, does anyone here use firestarter with a wifi connection?
[18:19] <nanbudh> i have a pentium III 500MHz machine with (128+64) MB RAM. will xubuntu run decently on it or will it be a bit slow?
[18:32] <slow-motion> hi
[18:32] <The-Kernel> hi slow-motion
[18:33] <slow-motion> hi The-Kernel
[18:33] <The-Kernel> what's goin slow today?
[19:15] <Nuffe> hey guys, anyone that could explain one thing for me... my NIC and WLAN doesn't work... I can connect with my wireless card but after EXACTLY 10 minutes the router dies, even though I am connected to the router, I can't access the Internet
[19:15] <Nuffe> Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AGN
[19:15] <avuton> How can I change the settings of power button press to hibernate?
[19:17] <Nuffe> my ICMP-packets arrive to the router but I can't send em to any other computer on the network, plus I can't administer the router from my browser... only send ping-packets
[19:25] <avuton> Nevermind, I just removed /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh and symlinked /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh to it.
[19:25] <The-Kernel> Nuffe: start you card up in verbose mode, and watch to see what errors it gets
[19:37] <Nuffe> The-Kernel: how do I do that ? :)
[19:38] <Nuffe> ifconfig wlan0 up --verbose?
[19:38] <Nuffe> wild guess =D
[19:40] <Nuffe> sudo ifdown -v wlan0
[19:40] <Nuffe> sudo ifup -v wlan0
[19:40] <Nuffe> I will test it :)
[19:43] <Nuffe> when I run ifdown I get "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured"
[19:43] <Nuffe> I'm sure that wlan0 is my interface
[19:47] <lwells> I am trying to use a mac keyboard but ubuntu keeps defualting to "Use X configuration
[19:47] <lwells> Is there something else I need to do for it to take?
[19:53] <The-Kernel> Nuffe: pastebin ifconfig
[19:58] <Nuffe> what?
[19:59] <Nuffe> explain =D
[20:00] <The-Kernel> actually, I have to go.
[20:00] <Nuffe> :(
[20:00] <The-Kernel> ping TheSheep, Pumpernickel, or zoredache
[20:00] <The-Kernel> bye
[20:03] <lwells> Is there any way to use a mac keyboard with xubuntu?
[20:07] <Nuffe> Is there any way that xUbuntu could send a DDOS-attack on my router when it's only trying to connect?
[20:10] <nanonyme> nopes
[20:10] <nanonyme> DDoS is a distributed denial of service. it is impossible to do using one computer
[20:13] <Nuffe> yeah.... but since my router blocks ALL packets from all the computers on the network.. what other explaination could there be?
[20:13] <Nuffe> I have to cut the power to the router and put it back on
[20:13] <Nuffe> Linksys WRT54G
[20:13] <Nuffe> or something
[20:13] <nanonyme> note: my point was that you don't mean DDoS. you mean DoS
[20:14] <nanonyme> and it would be quite improbable
[20:16] <Nuffe> yeah I get your point
[20:17] <nanonyme> why is your router blocking all packets from all the computers on the network?
[20:17] <Nuffe> but I don't get the thing that it could crash my router by connecting to it?
[20:17] <Nuffe> I don't know
[20:17] <Nuffe> it does it exactly after 10 minutes when ,y xubuntu laptop has connected
[20:18] <nanonyme> wifi or ethernet?
[20:19] <Nuffe> wifi = sure that it crashes      ethernet = get a IP from DHCP but can't get to any websites
[20:19] <Nuffe> I have VMWare installed... could this have something to do with it? since eth0 is bridged with VMWare's NIC
[20:20] <nanonyme> *shrug*
[20:20] <Nuffe> *sadface*
[20:20] <nanonyme> i suppose it's possible if they share the same MAC address
[20:21] <nanonyme> some cheap sucky router maybe couldn't handle that
[20:21] <Nuffe> yeah, but I have the same setup in WinXP
[20:22] <Nuffe> here's something for u, I can use the WiFi through Ubuntu Live-CD without any problems :s
[20:22] <nanonyme> which router is it anyway?
[20:22] <Nuffe> Linksys WRT54G
[20:22] <Nuffe> I mean, it's not that crappy
[20:22] <nanonyme> sounds very fishy then, it should handle normal connectivity fine
[20:23] <nanonyme> or hmm, at least revisions lower than 5 could. can't vouch for the rest as they're not Linux
[20:23] <Nuffe> yeah...
[20:24] <Nuffe> but since I only had ubuntu installed for a few days I could always install it again and hope it doesn't happend again
[20:28] <Nuffe> any last words to my harddrive? ;)
[22:09] <Terfy> heello my favorite distro..
[22:09] <soldats> hello ;P
[22:11] <Terfy> I have problem using initng.. any of you tried it ?
[22:20] <Terfy> noone ?
[22:22] <soldats> Terfy, try asking in #ubuntu since its more populated there
[22:22] <soldats> what was the problem you had anyways
[22:29] <Terfy> oki.. well I cannot get Initng to work proberly
[22:30] <Terfy> will initng be in repos soon ?
[22:35] <netlarlinux> can someone help me with speaker balance
[22:35] <netlarlinux> only one of the speakers is working but when on a pc both work
[22:35] <netlarlinux> I cannot seem to find where the balance is adjusted
[23:09] <Delvien> what is the command to open a terminal ? xterminal ?
[23:20] <slow-motion> n8
[23:28] <cb_k> hi! I have xubuntu installed on a compaq armada e500. i ungraded to gutsy (from feisty) via update-manager. when it tries to boot the 2.6.22 kernel (the default option) it doesn't recognize my /home partition (reiserfs), while booting fine the 2.6.20 kernel. does anyone know what's wrong? thx
[23:30] <cb_k> i have search ubuntu forums and google but cannot find anything useful