[00:00] <billybobo231> ScottG whats up?
[00:00] <Scotty> ScottG: What's the problem?
[00:00] <Scotty> Hehe.
[00:07] <ScottG> Got home from work, wife tells me she can only get 640X480 on our Kubuntu 7.10 64 bit PC.
[00:07] <ScottG> I ran the reconfigure X command (don't recall it all) and got my 1280X1024 back but no 3D.. now when I install Nvidia restricted drivers it breaks X again.
[00:12] <agorecki> You might try deleting Xorg's configuration file: the Xorg server should automatically choose the best settings for your hardware
[00:12] <MGalaxy> Scotty: ardchoille: can u PLZ suggest me an alternative for KDE Menu applet ?
[00:12] <ScottG> I'll give it a try
[00:13] <ardchoille> MGalaxy: kbfx is the only thing I can recommend: sudo apt-get install kbfx
[00:13] <nosrednaekim> try kickoff
[00:13] <ardchoille> MGalaxy: And you might also be interested in the kubuntu-artwork-kbfx package
[00:14] <Scotty> MGalaxy, as said, kbfx and kickoff are options and truthfully the only two I know of. I prefer kbfx, but they're both worth a try.
[00:14] <MGalaxy> thx
[00:15] <mahasamoot> I just installed winXP into a QEMU/KVM.  There were a lot of compicated instructions about how to set up networking... but windows can already reach the web.  So now I just need to reach windows from Kubuntu.  I'm installing 2xAppilcation server on windows and I want to connect to it with krdc... but I don't know what networking options to tell krdc?
[00:15] <Weasel[DK]> billybobo231,you are right about the kdesudo as replacement for kdesu, but it not compatible yet, it can be resolved for now bye executing: sudo ln -s -f /usr/bin/kdesu.distrib /usr/bin/kdesu
[00:16] <Weasel[DK]> billybobo231, thanks for the hint
[00:16] <nosrednaekim> !VNC
[00:16] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[00:23] <billybobo231> No problem Weasel
[00:24] <intelikey> interesting turn of events.  i loaded linux on this lappy.    sent it home with it's owner.    in six months they bring it back(haven't even looked at it yet) wanting me to do something else to it.    and it wont boot.   can't mount the root fs.    so i badblocks'd the hd   no bad blocks found.   i cat zero to it and reinstall linux.     did that yesterday.  today it wont boot.    so i boot a live cd chroot into it and upgrad
[00:24] <intelikey> but i'll bet dollars against doughnut holes that tomarrow it wont boot again.
[00:25] <intelikey> and i can't find a reason for it.
[00:26] <agorecki> Can you format the drive using the live cd?
[00:26] <intelikey> of course
[00:27] <intelikey> like i said i badblocks/cat zero to/reinstalled.    so i had to format(creat an fs some place) to install...
[00:27] <intelikey> i'm not a beginner ya know.
[00:28] <agorecki> I apologize, I misunderstood you. If you can format it and mount it on the live cd, there should not be a problem mounting it without one. What error message did the system provide when it was not able to mount the partition?
[00:29] <intelikey> agorecki right.  but there was.   i mounted the old root fs before i did anything else just to see if someone had hosed something.
[00:29] <intelikey> only the booting kernel couldn't mount the root fs and would panic.
[00:30] <greeg> hi
[00:30] <greeg> im having trouble installing a package. im running the version prior to gutsy.  http://rafb.net/p/hYBuGw49.html
[00:31] <intelikey> same thing today.   the booting kernel would panic with can't mount root fs      and it wasn't an address issue.   it was booting fine when i shut it down yesterday.  just like it is now.
[00:31] <ardchoille> greeg: What are you trying to install?
[00:31] <ardchoille> greeg: The GNU common lisp compiler?
[00:31] <greeg> gcl, lisp interpreter.
[00:31] <gspr> greeg: Are you trying to install GCL? Isn't there a Feisty package for that?
[00:31] <greeg> my linux box is not connected to the internet
[00:32] <ardchoille> !info gcl feisty
[00:32] <greeg> im at a coffe shop at the moment
[00:32] <agorecki> The last time I zeroed a hard drive it needed to be replaced. Which filesystem are you using? (I am sorry, without much more information there is not a lot I can say on the issue)
[00:32] <ubotu> gcl: GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-32 (feisty), package size 28038 kB, installed size 98532 kB
[00:32] <ardchoille> greeg: Ah, ok
[00:32] <gspr> greeg: It's probably easier to just get the packaged GCL.
[00:32] <greeg> yeah, and a bit spoiled by apt.
[00:32] <greeg> i ran ./configure in the proper directory according the the packages readme.
[00:33] <BrOSs> ardchoille: are u there?
[00:33] <greeg> ./configure: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[00:33] <ardchoille> BrOSs: I am
[00:33] <intelikey> greeg is there a reason you don't want to use the packaged version ?
[00:34] <intelikey> !packages
[00:34] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[00:35] <ardchoille> intelikey: His Linux box has no internet. He could download the gcl package but may run into deps problems.
[00:35] <stdin> greeg: try "bash configure" instead
[00:35] <intelikey> could dl from  http://packages.ubuntu.com   and carry the .deb to the box as easy as a tarball.
[00:35] <intelikey> ardchoille he'll hit the same dependancy problems with a tarball
[00:36] <batis610> Need to encode my dvd(contains serie episodes) to an avi with multiple audio tracks and subtitles..... how?
[00:37] <ardchoille> intelikey: True, but at least now he's connected and can grab those deps instead of waiting to get home and finding out which deps he needs
[00:37] <intelikey> stdin heh  that's probably it.  more bashism masqerading as posix shell grammer
[00:39] <BrOSs> i need some help about WEP..
[00:39] <intelikey> people should not use  #!/bin/sh and then write bashism into it.   that's like writing a perl script and making the first line #!/usr/bin/python
[00:40] <ardchoille> BrOSs: Since I already know what you're attempting, this isn't the proper place to ask about illegal activities
[00:41] <intelikey> BrOSs get all your warez at ftp://127.0.0.1/
[00:41] <BrOSs> ¬¬
[00:42] <ScottG> boy what an odeal..
[00:42] <ScottG> ordeal
[00:43] <intelikey> what odeal is that ?
[00:43] <ScottG> Just trying to get 3D re-enabled.
[00:44] <intelikey> also  people should not make configure and pre/post-inst/rm scripts with #!/bin/bash   nor containing bashism
[00:44] <ScottG> After fixing the 640x480 res problem I can't seem to get the Nvidia drivers installed so I can boot X..
[00:44] <ScottG> brb
[00:45] <intelikey> is "boot X" a CS term ?
[00:45] <greeg> is there a way get feisty packages with out apt ?
[00:45] <intelikey> greeg that's why i had the bot display the url  ^
[00:45] <intelikey> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <greeg> oh i'll scroll up.  thanx
[00:46] <greeg> thanx pal
[00:46] <intelikey> np
[00:46] <mrtimbo> hi
[00:46] <mrtimbo> what would cause my camera to show just green
[00:46] <intelikey> bad cable ?
[00:46] <mrtimbo> integrated
[00:46] <mrtimbo> *sp
[00:47] <intelikey> lense capped  heh   should be black but you never know...
[00:47] <intelikey> wrong module ?
[00:47] <mrtimbo> i think the camera is going out
[00:47] <mrtimbo> it worked fine last night
[00:48] <mrtimbo> Just wondering if anyone else has had the problem
[00:48] <intelikey> that would fall under the "bad cable" secrtion.   falty hardware between the optic and the processor.
[00:49] <mrtimbo> ill tear it apart when i get home then
[00:49] <intelikey> expanded to include the camera it's self   or it's internal components
[00:49] <mrtimbo> it should have a warrenty but i dont know since i took vista off
[00:50] <intelikey> have to have vesta to have a hardware warrenty     now that's dope
[00:50] <DarkTan_> how do i tell what version of ndiswrapper i have?
[00:50] <mrtimbo> yeah, its not hardware but who knows
[00:50] <mrtimbo> its an acer
[00:50] <batis610> Need to encode my dvd(contains serie episodes) to an avi with multiple audio tracks and subtitles..... how?
[00:51] <intelikey> DarkTan_ dpkg -l | grep ndisw     maybe ?
[00:52] <ardchoille> batis610: Are you using kubuntu or ubuntu? You are asking the same question simultaneously in #ubuntu and #kubuntu
[00:52] <freddykrueger> nabend
[00:53] <intelikey> tolt
[00:53] <DarkTan_> i don't think that tell me what i need to know
[00:53] <batis610> ardchoille: ow yeah... it's me... i'm using kubuntu :)
[00:53] <DarkTan_> i'm ver 1.51 was just released 12/17
[00:53] <DarkTan_> that i'm wasn't supposed to be there
[00:54] <ardchoille> batis610: Then this channel is the proper place for your questions, #ubuntu usually a busier channel than #kubuntu
[00:54] <DarkTan_> ok, how do i compile the new tar.gz?
[00:54] <intelikey> DarkTan_ ndiswarper --version    give you info ?
[00:54] <intelikey> !b-e | DarkTan_
[00:54] <ubotu> DarkTan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:55] <DarkTan_> ndiswrapper --version dosen't tell me the right info either
[00:55] <intelikey> ?
[00:56] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: apt-cache policy ndiswrapper
[00:56] <DarkTan_> unable to locate package
[00:57] <intelikey> ardchoille that shows the same as the first string i gave him.
[00:57] <DarkTan_> i'm trying to follow these direction: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[00:57] <ardchoille> intelikey: Ah, ok
[00:59] <ScottG> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50042/  This is my Xorg.conf.. I can't get 3D to work. If I install from the restricted drivers manager I can't get into X without reconfiguring X from the CLI..
[00:59] <DarkTan_> on a speperate note, anyone play a game called nexus [sp?]
[00:59] <ScottG> nexuiz?
[01:00] <intelikey> those instructions are telling you to build  ndiswrapper-1.46
[01:00] <DarkTan_> is that an FPS?
[01:00] <intelikey> !info ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ScottG> yes
[01:00] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[01:00] <DarkTan_> they tell me get the latest ver
[01:00] <DarkTan_> dapper
[01:00] <intelikey> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[01:00] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-utils does not exist in gutsy
[01:00] <DarkTan_> i'm running dapper
[01:01] <ardchoille> !info ndiswrapper-common dapper
[01:01] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-common does not exist in dapper
[01:01] <intelikey> oh.  LTS   sorry.
[01:02] <DarkTan_> ahh, i see the 1.46 now....
[01:02] <DarkTan_> gonna ignore the first part them
[01:03] <Tm_T> root!
[01:03] <intelikey> hey root
[01:04] <intelikey> chicken.
[01:04] <sebix> spañol
[01:04] <intelikey> :)
[01:04] <intelikey> !es
[01:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:04] <Tom2> Hey all, newly installed Kubuntu... any idea why I can't launch Adept manager?
[01:04] <ed_> any error messages?
[01:04] <Tom2> It tries to launch and then crashes
[01:04] <Tom2> Nope
[01:05] <Tom2> Doing it from the command line is fine
[01:05] <ed_> huh..beats me. im new myself :)
[01:05] <intelikey> Tom2 call it in a terminal and see what it says
[01:05] <Tom2> intelikey: How?
[01:05] <DarkTan_> it did that to me, i had to run it from command line then reboot the comp while leaving adept open, it worked fine since then
[01:05] <intelikey> open a terminal and type in  adep[tab_key]
[01:06] <ardchoille> Tom2: kdesu adept_manager
[01:06] <Tom2> huh
[01:06] <intelikey> need to be root to run ?
[01:06] <Tom2> Worked from the command line
[01:06] <ardchoille> intelikey: For adpet manager, I wold think so
[01:06] <sebix> my start x not run...
[01:07] <intelikey> ardchoille i figured it had a button to switch to admin mode
[01:07] <DarkTan_> yeah adept always asks for a password
[01:07] <Tom2> That's bizarre
[01:07] <DarkTan_> wow, gnome is huge
[01:07] <DarkTan_> what?
[01:07] <intelikey> sebix   no space.   startx
[01:08] <ardchoille> intelikey: When I run adept_manager as user, it gives me a big msgbox telling me I'm not running as root. So, I thought to just run as root to begin with
[01:08] <sebix> my startx not run...
[01:08] <intelikey> ardchoille k.  as you can tell i never use it.
[01:09] <intelikey> !fixrez
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09]  * intelikey is stricking out at ubot ball
[01:09] <sebix> my startx niot run
[01:10] <intelikey>     if anyone speeks es  would you please help sebix
[01:10] <DarkTan_> umm....i installed gnome, there a gui on my console window, is that supposed to happen?
[01:10] <DarkTan_> it's asking about defuly display managers
[01:11] <DarkTan_> defult*
[01:11] <ardchoille> sebix: hay necessita hablar ingles en esta canal.
[01:11] <ardchoille> !es
[01:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:11] <mani213> how do i install a .run file on linux?
[01:11] <intelikey> heh ncurses != gut  but  yes.
[01:11] <intelikey> gui
[01:11] <DarkTan_> ?
[01:12] <intelikey> DarkTan_ yes  you can use kdm or gdm
[01:12] <sebix> mani213: sebix si
[01:12] <intelikey> or even xdm  or no dm at all
[01:12] <sebix> mani213: sebix yes
[01:12] <DarkTan_> ok, is this the right program in this doc tho? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:12] <mani213> how do i install a .run file on kubuntu?
[01:12] <mani213> sebix?
[01:13] <intelikey> mani213 sh file.run
[01:13] <intelikey> or might better use bash   bash file.run
[01:13] <mani213> so do i have to type that in console?
[01:13] <mani213> konsole?
[01:14] <intelikey> mani213 yea   or you can change the permission to executable and click it
[01:14] <intelikey> if you like the pointy clicky thingy that well
[01:14] <mani213> how so i do that
[01:14] <mani213> can you tell me the command to type in konsole?
[01:14] <intelikey> right click > propertys
[01:15] <intelikey> oh   i did.  twice.
[01:15] <intelikey>  bash filename.run
[01:15] <DarkTan_> brb
[01:15] <intelikey> if not in the same dir   bash /path/to/filename.run
[01:16] <intelikey> and use the tab key.
[01:16] <intelikey> !tab
[01:16] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:16] <mani213> let me try it
[01:16] <intelikey> we're not stopping you.............
[01:18] <mani213> bash: ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run: No such file or directory
[01:18] <mani213> wat that mean
[01:19] <intelikey> means you are not in the dir with the file and need to add the path/
[01:20] <intelikey> as per about four posts ago
[01:22] <intelikey> a linux console is like so totally intimidating, there is nothing there but words, ya know.
[01:27] <vern> hi, im trying to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, ive installed kubuntu-desktop and apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, but after logging into the kde login, im dumped to a gnome desktop
[01:28] <vern> how do get to the kde desktop?
[01:28] <Jucato> vern: did you choose KDE from the list of Sessions in the login screen?
[01:28] <vern> hmm lemme try that out, brb
[01:28]  * intelikey hides from jucato
[01:29] <Jucato> happy new year intelikey :)
[01:29] <intelikey> ah yes and to you.
[01:29] <Jucato> or perhaps happy new ear, after I chop one off, for hiding from me :D
[01:29] <intelikey> :)
[01:29] <intelikey> Y
[01:29] <Jucato> Z
[01:31] <vernn> thanks! that worked ... will removing the gnome packages effectively get rid of gnome?
[01:32] <zeke> anyone having problems with ffmpeg breaking after every reboot?
[01:32] <ardchoille> !purekde | vernn
[01:32] <ubotu> vernn: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[01:32] <zeke> or know why such a thing would happen?
[01:32] <Jucato> ardchoille: do you ever sleep!??!
[01:33] <Jucato> (yay!! I finally get to ask someone that, instead of me being asked that)
[01:33] <zeke> heh
[01:33] <ardchoille> Jucato: Sleep?
[01:33] <ardchoille> :P
[01:33] <user__> .
[01:34] <Jucato> >.>
[01:34] <intelikey> sleep is a time out command in linux.    it's used to pause a system for a specified time before executing another command.
[01:34] <Jucato> sleep - delay for a specified amount of time
[01:36] <ardchoille> Oh, then.. no :)
[01:36] <zeke> or maybe this amarok update will fix it
[01:36] <intelikey> your used the man page; i on the other hand, used the man keyboard
[01:36]  * intelikey sleeps a lot
[01:36] <zeke> sometimes it takes a man('s) touch
[01:37] <intelikey> blah & sleep 12 ; pidof blah && killall blah
[01:38] <Mr_Sonoma> lol intelikey
[01:39] <MaTiAz> !botsnack
[01:39] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:39] <jamex> hello
[01:39] <zeke> !botnap   ???
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botnap   ??? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <zeke> oh well
[01:40] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[01:40] <intelikey> hey i found a good OOMK tester
[01:40] <zeke> !botnap
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botnap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <LjL> !botabuse
[01:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[01:40] <zeke> HA!
[01:41] <intelikey> OOMK tester;   "tail -F /dev/zero"    don't try it unless you know what OOMK is.
[01:41] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[01:41] <CheGuevara> lol
[01:42] <zeke> jeez...this computer is taking forever to load the partition manager off the live cd
[01:42]  * intelikey wonders if greeg just tried that.....
[01:42] <Mr_Sonoma> i wondered the same intelikey
[01:44] <ardchoille> intelikey: Please don't post things that can cause problems for unaware users.
[01:44] <zeke> is wireless g compatible with wireless b?
[01:44] <zeke> or vice verse?
[01:44] <DarkTan_> accursed directions! didn't work
[01:45] <intelikey> ardchoille it shouldn't.   ubuntu did stop using OOMK=smart    so it shouldn't cause any trouble.
[01:45] <DarkTan_> ok, i used to have a wireless card that couldn't find networks, now i have no wireless card at all
[01:45] <intelikey> now in early dapper or before  it would.
[01:45] <ardchoille> intelikey: The point is, that comand has no beneficial use in this channel.
[01:46] <zeke> this one finds my network but doesn't show an accurate signal strength
[01:46] <gspr> zeke: 802.11g is backwards compatible with 802.11b, but speed may suffer from the presence of too many b-clients, I  think
[01:47] <intelikey> learning is not beneficial ?
[01:47] <zeke> cool...I'm sitting right next to the router and the signal is showing 1% or so
[01:49] <zeke> and this installation has really hung up at 26% after selecting the keyboard layout and trying to load the partition manager(?)
[01:50] <zeke> maybe I should use gparted then attempt a text install
[01:50] <zeke> never had much luck with those though
[01:51] <zeke> or is there some way I can connect two computers and install from the one with k on it?
[01:53] <zeke> because with 256mb ram this is taking a redonculous ammount of time
[01:53] <zeke> amount
[01:55] <zeke> anyone? ;)
[01:55] <flaccid> !punctuation | zeke
[01:55] <ubotu> zeke: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:55] <artur_> my clock is always changed when i start the system, what could i do?
[01:55]  * flaccid goes to read what zeek was going on about
[01:55] <zeke> yessir
[01:56] <flaccid> so basically it hangs on install?
[01:56] <zeke> basically...it's been loading the partition manager for 30 minutes now and it's only at 26%
[01:56] <flaccid> have you tried the alternate cd? atm it sounds like hardware
[01:57] <flaccid> looks like some bus problem or anyhting hardware. try the alternate cd first
[01:57] <flaccid> !alternate | zeke
[01:57] <ubotu> zeke: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:58] <zeke> I've not had much luck with alternate installs in the past
[01:58] <zeke> I tried it with freebsd and ended up without a gui of any sort
[01:59] <zeke> is the oem option of the normal cd the same as the alternate version?
[01:59] <ardchoille> zeke: Try it with the kubuntu alternate install cd.. I found it quite easy to use.
[02:00] <ardchoille> zeke: The OEM option leaves the system in a state in which the first user to boot it up must set some options, kind like purchasing a computer off of the store shelf.
[02:00] <flaccid> zeke: this is not freebsd at all. your issues could be something to do with the desktop components of the live cd. if you don't wanna try it, its your choice
[02:01] <zeke> I'm just trying to see what my options are
[02:01] <zeke> I do appreciate the advice and I will give it a try
[02:01] <flaccid> um i can't think of much other than doing persistent usb drive install.. which is just livecd anyway, but that rules out ide bus etc.
[02:02] <flaccid> old or new system?
[02:03] <jontec> I can't get battle for westnoth to play music O_o... I can't even check the box to enable music from within wesnoth... it's almost like it's not seeing the wesnoth-music package (which I have installed)
[02:03] <sn00zer> how do i kill a process that is listed in ps, then when i try to kill it says no such process, then respawns under new PID
[02:03] <biovore> kill -9 <pid>
[02:04] <sn00zer> or actually changes PID every second
[02:04] <biovore> figure out what it's parrent is
[02:04] <sn00zer> but its changed PID before i can type it
[02:04] <sn00zer> how do i do that?
[02:04] <zeke> old system
[02:04] <zeke> dell inspiron 1150
[02:08] <flaccid> ok
[02:19] <sfears> ls
[02:19] <sfears> woops
[02:26] <Scotty> Anyone know how to change the locally echoed name in Kopete? And by that, I mean how to change your screenname in conversations to something else. I tried using identities, but it didn't work.
[02:30] <happyjoy> can someone give me a good link to learn more about the grub boot loader?
[02:30] <se7en> Scotty: in konversation just do /nick other-nick-name
[02:30] <se7en> !grub
[02:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <se7en> !grub| happyjoy
[02:31] <ubotu> happyjoy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <Scotty> se7en: I know how to change my nick in Konversation. I was wondering how to change it in Kopete. For instance, in Trillian it's called the locally echoed name.
[02:32] <Scotty> It's the name that appears in the conversation window, normally your screen name.
[02:32] <Mr_Sonoma> scotty i havent used kopete for IRC chat but i would imagine the /nick command used by many other IRC clients would work there also.
[02:32] <Scotty> Not for IRC, for AIM.
[02:32] <Mr_Sonoma> oh
[02:32] <Scotty> In a conversation window.
[02:32] <Scotty> When you say something.
[02:32] <Mr_Sonoma> its under preferances i think
[02:33] <happyjoy> se7en: thankx ;)
[02:33] <Mr_Sonoma> let me look
[02:33] <se7en> sorry Scotty i don't use anything else then irc so no need for me to use kopete
[02:44] <agorecki> Hi folks, does anyone know of a program for duplicating segments of a video into a new file? I am looking for software that has an intuitive, graphical user interface (preferrably)
[02:46] <jameswf-home> intuitive is relitave
[02:46] <jameswf-home> I find bash intuitive :)
[02:46] <agorecki> Anything other than libffmpg :)
[02:46] <adz21c> agorecki: theres some sort of video called kino i think, thats graphical and might do it. Else for command line you can use mencoder so just do a copy encode (aka sweet fa) of segments i believe
[02:46] <jameswf-home> devede is pretty good..
[02:47] <agorecki> adz21c, jameswf-home: I will have a look, thank you
[02:52] <se7en> speaking of video what package is missing when i get that error  xine: couldn't find demux
[03:04] <ScottG> !envy
[03:04] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:04] <ScottG> ohhh.. :)
[03:16] <GoMittGo> Mitt Romney understands the importance of keeping Americans safe.
[03:16] <GoMittGo> "We must strengthen our military by increasing the size of our military by 100,000 troops and dedicating at least four percent of our gross domestic product to defense. We must transform our domestic civilian international efforts to meet a new generation of global challenges and ensure that our intelligence and law enforcement efforts are able to address threats before they reach out shores."
[03:16] <GoMittGo> Vote Mitt Romney for a safer America
[03:16] <GoMittGo> Mitt Romney 2008
[03:16] <velho> how can i close Power Manager forever?
[03:16] <grul> FOREVER
[03:17] <Scotty> Wow.
[03:18] <velho> i'm using Kpowersave instead of Power Manager in my laptop. but Power Manager starts everytime i start kubuntu. how to close it forever?
[03:20] <mani213> i tried to install a .run file it doesnt work
[03:20] <mani213> in konsole i types in "bash <dir> <file name>
[03:21] <Max-P> try $ sh <filename> in konsole
[03:21] <mani213> $?
[03:21] <mani213> i have kubuntu
[03:21] <mani213> and thr .run file is a ati driver i downloaded
[03:21] <mani213> the*
[03:23] <Max-P> The $ is only meaning that you don't have to be root to run that command
[03:23] <Max-P> and # mean root
[03:23] <Max-P> but
[03:23] <Max-P> if it's the ati driver
[03:23] <Max-P> # sh <filename
[03:23] <Max-P> # for root
[03:23] <Max-P> so
[03:23] <Max-P> $ sudo su
[03:23] <Max-P> then
[03:23] <Max-P> you will be root
[03:24] <mani213> so i type in $ sudo su first?
[03:24] <Max-P> yes
[03:24] <Max-P> ou juste
[03:24] <Max-P> $ sudo sh <filename>
[03:24] <Max-P> sudo run the command as root
[03:25] <mani213> ohhh
[03:25] <mani213> i see it kinda
[03:25] <mani213> let me try it
[03:26] <Max-P> (Sorry for my english, I'm from Québec)
[03:26] <mani213> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:26] <mani213> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[03:26] <mani213> root@mani213-desktop:/home/mani213#
[03:26] <mani213> it didnt install
[03:27] <Max-P> just run
[03:27] <Max-P> # sh ati-installer.sh
[03:27] <Max-P> # sh ati-installer.run *
[03:28] <Max-P> (Am I hard to understand?)
[03:29] <mani213> were
[03:29] <mani213> do i type that ?
[03:29] <Max-P> 1 -Open Konsole
[03:29] <mani213> ye
[03:29] <mani213> now what do i do
[03:29] <Max-P> 2- cd to your .run file directory
[03:30] <Max-P> 3- run $ sudo bash <filename.run>
[03:30] <mani213> you mean put the driver cd in the rom?
[03:30] <Max-P> no
[03:30] <Max-P> cd = change directory
[03:30] <mani213> so basicly "sudo bash <filename>?
[03:30] <Max-P> yes
[03:31] <Max-P> that's it
[03:31] <velho> i'm using Kpowersave instead of Power Manager in my laptop. but Power Manager starts everytime i start kubuntu and i don't want to use it. how to close it forever, to never start again?
[03:31] <mani213> i keep on getting an error
[03:31] <mani213> this giles messed then right?
[03:31] <mani213> files
[03:31] <Max-P> What's the error?
[03:32] <mani213> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[03:32] <mani213> but i got it off the website:S
[03:32] <Max-P> you can try to install it from the package manager
[03:32] <mani213> what do i type in
[03:32] <mani213> package manager?
[03:32] <Max-P> fglrx
[03:32] <Max-P> you will get something like
[03:33] <Max-P> xorg-server-fglrx-driver
[03:33] <pteague> anybody know if the "Option RandRRotation" is a server option or do i need to set it somewhere else?
[03:33] <mani213> man is there any software to get all the drivers
[03:33] <pteague> in xorg.conf
[03:33] <mani213> and like search for them like my mother board sound card
[03:34] <Max-P> mani213: I can't help you =(
[03:34] <Max-P> I typed $ sudo bash ati-driver.run and it worked fine
[03:35] <mani213> kk im getting it off adept manager
[03:35] <mani213> it should work now
[03:35] <mani213> i wana install it so i get the cube effect :D
[03:35] <mani213> lolz
[03:36] <Max-P> THe ATI Driver didn't worked for me... So I'm using AIGLX
[03:42] <mani213> whats it called again if i search it on adept manager
[03:42] <mani213> the ati driver?
[03:42] <mani213> my linux singed me off :S
[03:43] <Scotty> xorg-server-fglrx-driver?
[03:43] <Scotty> If that's what you're talking about
[03:44] <mani213> he told me to go adept manager and type in some driver name to get he ati one
[03:44] <mani213> cause i couldnt manual install it file has error
[03:44] <Scotty> fglrx?
[03:44] <mani213> ye thats it
[03:44] <Scotty> Like he said, it
[03:44] <Scotty> *it'll come up with something like xorg-server-fglrx-driver.
[03:45] <mani213> ye got it
[03:45] <mani213> thanks a mill
[03:45] <Scotty> Just repeating information, but no problem.
[03:48] <mani213> i installed the driver and my compiz settings stoped
[03:48] <mani213> how to i get it back compiz --replace?
[03:49] <ardchoille> mani213: help with compiz is in #compiz-fusion
[03:49] <Jucato> sudo sleep ardchoille
[03:49] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:50] <Jucato> of course, like always, I don't follow my own rules/suggestions/advice :D
[03:51] <mani213> omg no ones talkin in compiz room
[03:52] <mani213> is the command compiz --replace
[03:56] <earl_> so i remember reading a few months ago about a problem with ubuntu and laptop hard drives. does that still apply in gutsy?
[03:57] <Tucci> hey i
[03:57] <Tucci> hello?
[03:57] <ardchoille> !hi | Tucci
[03:57] <ubotu> Tucci: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:58] <Tucci> oh, okay, there's usually a flood of messages as soon as I connect... things are quiet I guess
[03:58] <Dr_willis> earl_,  i saw that when gutsy came out. the issue was a little.. odd. :) if i rember right it only affected some spefific machines/bios/hd's and  it was only affecting those machines that had  the laptop-mode packages enabled.
[03:59] <earl_> is there a way to verify if it applies to me?
[03:59] <Tucci> anyway, I was trying to share a folder with my roommate's mac, and I both failed at that and broke my internet connection
[03:59] <Tucci> can someone help?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> There was a great many sites on that topic.  You could check the smart 'data' on the hd and see how fast it was increasing.
[04:00] <Dr_willis> then if you wanted you could use hdparm to tweak it.  lets me see whats on my laptop
[04:00] <earl_> not sure how to do any of that lol
[04:01] <Dr_willis> If you never installed the laptop-mode package.. then it wont be affecting you anyway
[04:01] <earl_> oh no i never did that on my own. should i have?
[04:04] <pyrotix> whenever I try to login on kopete it just crashes. Suddenly and immediately. wtf? Anyone know of this issue or could suggest any other easily installable linux msn clients
[04:05] <earl_> pidgin
[04:05] <earl_> i think it's superior to kopet
[04:05] <earl_> e
[04:05] <pyrotix> is it kde?
[04:05] <pyrotix> wait
[04:05] <pyrotix> its gaim
[04:05] <pyrotix> gah
[04:05] <earl_> it's a gnome program but you can use it pretty harmlessly in KDE
[04:05] <earl_> it works really well for me
[04:06] <pyrotix> I know of it. and gtk programs are never harmless.
[04:06] <pyrotix> ty
[04:07] <earl_> i mean if you want an alternative, there it is. it has some features that i find kopete to be missing
[04:08] <mrtimbo> gaim dont have webcam support
[04:08] <earl_> it does not, you're right. but last i tried kopete i wasn't able to get webcam working too well in that either
[04:08] <mrtimbo> I have never had a problem
[04:08] <mrtimbo> but it varies
[04:09] <earl_> granted that was like a year ago though.
[04:09] <mrtimbo> its the only reason i started with kopete
[04:09] <earl_> have they fixed that thing where there's a blank line after every message on some themes?
[04:09] <mrtimbo> I dont use themes
[04:09] <mrtimbo> You would think they would of but i dont know
[04:09] <pyrotix> hehe, I started with kopete cause I couldn't get gaim to work. Kopete and amarok were single-handedly able to convert me to kubuntu. And also wu-tang clan ain't nothing to fuck wit.
[04:10] <earl_> themes are the thing that make me wish kopete was better than it is
[04:10] <stdin> !language | pyrotix
[04:10] <ubotu> pyrotix: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:10] <earl_> yeah amarok is pretty excellent
[04:10] <mrtimbo> I use amarok on a daily basis
[04:10] <pyrotix> what if the profanity is part of a quote?
[04:10] <pyrotix> even then
[04:11] <stdin> then don't quote it
[04:11] <ardchoille> pyrotix: Doesn't matter, please keep the content family-friendly
[04:11] <earl_> the only thing i could think of that would make amarok better is if it worked with my zune.
[04:11] <earl_> but then again
[04:11] <earl_> zunes dont work with anything.
[04:11] <poison__> xmms rocks
[04:11] <pyrotix> acrdchoille: I'm sorry, sometimes the music I'm listening to just overwhelms me. I'll try to resist
[04:12] <mrtimbo> eh..
[04:13] <jameswf-home> ..
[04:13] <pyrotix> ooh, posted to the forums, but may as well ask here. Installed phpmyadmin and when I login I get a "Cannot load mcrypt extension. Please check your PHP configuration." anyone have an idea what I have to do?
[04:13] <poison__> !kde4
[04:13] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[04:13] <jameswf-home> s/./e/
[04:13] <mrtimbo> so is 8.0 or whatever going to be a whole lot differetn
[04:13]  * mrtimbo different
[04:14] <pyrotix> !slashdot
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slashdot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <pyrotix> aw
[04:14] <earl_> 8.0 of?
[04:14] <poison__> im lookin at kde4 atm, looks sweet
[04:14] <ardchoille> !msgthebot | pyrotix
[04:14] <ubotu> pyrotix: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:14] <mrtimbo> kubuntu
[04:14] <earl_> do you mean 8.04
[04:14] <mrtimbo> yes
[04:14] <mrtimbo> whatever it is going to be
[04:14] <jameswf-home> kde4 is kinda clunky ...
[04:14] <earl_> it'll still be kd 3.5
[04:15] <earl_> so probably not thaaat different
[04:15] <poison__> menu looks like Win%@#@*#&( way
[04:15] <poison__> lmao
[04:15] <ardchoille> mrtimbo: 8.04 (year.month)
[04:15] <mrtimbo> oh thats how it works
[04:15] <mrtimbo> nice
[04:15] <mrtimbo> never knew that
[04:15] <earl_> yup that's why it's always 04 or 10
[04:15] <earl_> 7.04 7.10
[04:16] <poison__> every 6 months :D
[04:16] <earl_> except for dapper drake, which they delayed to make it not horrible
[04:16] <mrtimbo> I didnt catch on lol
[04:17] <jameswf-home> my versioning scheme.... If at first you dont succeed version = version++
[04:17] <mrtimbo> like flash eh
[04:17] <pyrotix> version += 1;
[04:17] <CheGuevara> $version++
[04:18] <jameswf-home> so far never had a script go past 3 due to me
[04:18] <jameswf-home> $(vet $VERSION=($VERSION=1))
[04:18] <ardchoille> !ot
[04:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:18] <jameswf-home> damnit
[04:19] <ardchoille> !language | jameswf-home
[04:19] <ubotu> jameswf-home: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:19] <jameswf-home> !botabuse | ardchoille
[04:19] <velho_> ey people, how can i stop this applet from starting? http://nosrednaekim.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/powermanagerss.jpg
[04:20] <ubotu> ardchoille: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:20] <mahasamoot> I'm having trouble with kmyfirewall... when I try to activate my ruleset, I get this: Error: kdesu: Unknown option '-t'.Error: kdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[04:20] <mahasamoot> Execution failedExit(Code): 254
[04:22] <mahasamoot> I should note that I ran it from the terminal with sudo
[04:22] <jameswf-home> DONT PRIVATE MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION
[04:22] <stdin> !caps | jameswf-home
[04:22] <ubotu> jameswf-home: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:22] <CheGuevara> :P
[04:22] <jameswf-home> !botsnack
[04:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:23]  * CheGuevara pets ubotu
[04:23]  * mrtimbo kicks the room
[04:23] <velho_> ey people i need some help. how can i stop this applet from starting? http://nosrednaekim.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/powermanagerss.jpg
[04:23] <CheGuevara> now think about what if the whole room kicks you back
[04:23] <ardchoille> !repeat | velho_
[04:23] <ubotu> velho_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:23] <mrtimbo> i dont mind
[04:24] <Jucato> CheGuevara: he doesn't have to wait for the whole room... he just needs one...
[04:24] <Jucato> one operator :D
[04:24] <ardchoille> :)
[04:24] <stdin> velho_: why don't you want the power manager running
[04:25]  * jameswf-home thinks any family members under the age of 18 probably arent well diciplined and their parrents should be flogged
[04:25] <velho_> stdin         because i'm using Kpowersave, wich i prefer
[04:25] <velho_> stdin     can you help me?
[04:25]  * Jucato thinks jameswf-home should keep such opinions to himself, to prevent offtopic discussions :)
[04:25] <mrtimbo> what operator
[04:25] <CheGuevara> lol
[04:25] <ardchoille> jameswf-home: Things like that have no place here.
[04:26]  * jameswf-home frankly doesnt care what you think 
[04:26] <mrtimbo> lol
[04:26] <Jucato> stdin: darn it! that was my prey!
[04:26] <Jucato> you just stole my punch line...
[04:26] <stdin> Jucato: I was the silent stalker :)
[04:26] <Jucato> or kick line rather..
[04:26] <Jucato> pfft
[04:26] <mrtimbo> he is back
[04:27]  * Dr_willis missed all the fun.
[04:27] <CheGuevara> oh noes
[04:27] <Jucato> !guidelines > jameswf-home
[04:27] <Jucato> !offtopic > jameswf-home
[04:27]  * jameswf-home didnt vear off topic but doesnt turn the other cheek
[04:28] <stdin> velho_: as fas as I know, you'd have to remove /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop or uninstall guidance-backends
[04:28] <Jucato> stdin: wouldn't that affect the other guidance modules? or only g-p-m?
[04:28]  * Jucato would rather suggest editing the .desktop file, not sure if it will be restored on an update...
[04:28]  * stdin thinks he meant kde-guidance-powermanager 
[04:29] <Jucato> oh yeah, that's the new name :)
[04:29] <Jucato> we used to call it gpm (guidance power manager...)
[04:29] <stdin> update would nuke any changes, that's the only problem with moving/editing
[04:29] <jameswf-home> .files will be restored if backed up any good backup will have a hidden files option
[04:30] <mrtimbo> So how do i stop firefox from telling websites that im running linux?
[04:31] <stdin> don't think you can with firefox
[04:31] <jameswf-home> mrtimbo: user agent switcher
[04:31] <jameswf-home> search extensions
[04:32] <mrtimbo> sometimes ill be looking for something and it will already take me to debian/ubuntu sites.  That gets old at times
[04:32] <mrtimbo> ok thanks
[04:32] <ronnie_> hey all, I've been using kubuntu 7.10 for about a month, I can't use the update, if I do it says there's some kinda error, so I just don't use it at all, thus probably leaving me with alot of unfixed bugs, any come across the same thing?
[04:33] <Jucato> ronnie_: how are you trying to update? what errors are you gettng?
[04:33] <jameswf-home> ronnie_: a pastebin of the error would be helpful
[04:33] <jameswf-home> !pb
[04:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:33]  * Jucato wonders how many aliases the !pastebin factoid has...
[04:34] <jameswf-home> Jucato: 5
[04:34] <velho_> stdin, thank you ^-^
[04:34] <ronnie_> using the updater that comes with it installed, (what im using) hmmm ok thx ill go there
[04:35] <jameswf-home> Jucato: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Jucato> jameswf-home: rhetorical question btw :)
[04:35] <stdin> !-pb
[04:35] <ubotu> pb is <alias> pastebin - added by LjL on 2007-09-21 00:50:59
[04:35] <se7en> ronnie_: open a terminal and do sudo apt-get update and paste the error in te pastebin so people here can see and help
[04:36] <jameswf-home> I am guessing rhettoric is off topic :)
[04:37] <jameswf-home> I spend 90% of my time in dev rooms people here are touchy
[04:37] <Jucato> !pasting is <alias> pastebin
[04:37] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Jucato
[04:37] <Jucato> now make that 6 :D
[04:37] <stdin> well, this isn't a -dev channel...
[04:38] <mrtimbo> !paste
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <mrtimbo> huh
[04:38] <limac> hey
[04:38] <Jucato> hm... ok... gotta go. stdin you take the helm :)
[04:38] <se7en> !flood
[04:38] <Jucato> oh hi limac
[04:38] <Jucato> oh yeah, the blender guy :)
[04:38] <stdin> mrtimbo: you post the link back here
[04:39] <limac> i was working on a html project while suddenly the internet got disconnected!
[04:39] <limac> oh hi Jucato! :D
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Trying to figure out where/how Ubuntu/Kubuntu decides where to auto mount these disks. The disk is  /dev/sdd1, usb external HD. Plug it in , turn it on. it appears as System:/media/sdd1  HOWEVER  there is no '/media/sdd1' the disk is instead mounted at '/media/disk'   Where did that 'disk' name come from? (its a windows fat32 disk)
[04:39] <limac> and the next time i restarted the computer, it got frozen
[04:39] <limac> why did that happen?
[04:40] <stdin> Dr_willis: from the filesystems label
[04:40] <Dr_willis> stdin,  ok. that makes sence then. :)
[04:40] <limac> is that like a bug or something?
[04:40] <jameswf-home> Dr_willis: udev rules
[04:40] <Tucci> I accidentally changed some of my network settings and now my connection is broken. can someone help me change it back?
[04:40] <stdin> (most FAT-31 USB disks are called "disk")
[04:40] <stdin> *-32
[04:41] <jameswf-home> Tucci: define broken
[04:41] <Tucci> well, not working at all (I'm using my roommate's mac)
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I dont rember labeling it that.. but it could of been. heh heh..  It just seems.. confusing.. the way it used system:/media/sdd1 then i was expecting there to be a /media/sdd1 :)
[04:41] <stdin> system:/ always used the device node as the name, even if it's not mounted like that
[04:42] <Tucci> jameswf-ho: (this is a laptop with a wireless connection that has always worked without a problem)
[04:42] <stdin> my /home (which is called "home") is system:/media/sda3
[04:42] <Dr_willis> but media:/ shows the name of the disk to be 'windowstuff'
[04:42] <Dr_willis> which i do think is the label.
[04:42] <stdin> media:/ != system:/media ;)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> media makes sence. :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> except fior the 3 disks named based on their size...
[04:43] <Tucci> jameswf-ho: And I was trying to share a folder with this mac, but didn't succeed - now the little internet connection button on the lower panel has disappeared
[04:43] <Dr_willis> is my stuff on the 400gb or 320gb or 300gb disk..heh :)
[04:43] <stdin> I just mount from /dev/disk/by-label
[04:43] <jameswf-home> Dr_willis: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/make-removable-usb-hdd-mount-at-fixed-mount-point-511917/
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Im just cleaning out a lot of things got a 300gb hd for $40 over the weekend. that will eliminate 3 of the hd's
[04:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:45] <Tidus> i just put shortcuts on the desktop pointing to the storage array in this computer which is conveniently mounted at /storage
[04:47] <Dr_willis> I got a redundant array of external usb disks...  that just seems to keep growing
[04:47] <Dr_willis> redundant in that - i seem to have a lot of needlessly redundant copies of stuff on all of them
[04:49] <limac> my wireless is disconnecting randomly? any ways to fix that?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Mine would dissconect when the wife fired up the microwave.
[04:51] <limac> hmmmmmm
[04:51] <Dr_willis> or the neighbors would fire up theirs... or the dog down the street looked at  a squirle.. :)
[04:51] <limac> so any way to fix mine?
[04:51] <Dr_willis> Ok.. kidding on the last part.. and this was some older hardware. But the Microwave, and the cordless phone would kick her pc off the net for a few mim
[04:52] <Dr_willis> What kind of cards?  A/B/G/N/Somthing Else ive not heard of yet.
[04:52] <limac> what do u mean "cards"?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> What kind of wireless card is this? what chipset.
[04:53] <limac> atheros
[04:53] <Dr_willis> A/B  type wireless had the Microwave issues.  I think its not an issue with G and N networks now a days.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> But other then that.. I cant be of much more help. Not sure wher to begin trouble shooting if you are saying its truely random.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Sure its not like after X amount of time idle?
[04:54] <limac> yeah
[04:55] <cuking_1> Hello all
[04:56] <ardchoille> hi cuking_1
[05:03] <cuking_1> ardchoille
[05:03] <olle_> hehe
[05:03] <Tidus> something tells me we are about to get spambotted...
[05:03] <olle_> konversation auto-joined me here
[05:03] <cuking_1> ardchoille how are you doing tonight.  I am very happy I got my nfs working well.
[05:04] <olle_> and im so tired i can barely type my
[05:04] <ardchoille> cuking_1: I'm glad to hear that :)
[05:04] <cuking_1> olle_ I assume you are using kubuntu?
[05:04] <olle_> sure i am
[05:04]  * cuking_1 had a lucky guess
[05:04] <olle_> cuking1: do you?
[05:05] <xweb> I just instaled Gusty and now my ruby does not work.
[05:05] <cuking_1> Yeah, I am using it to get to media files.  I found nfs-kernel-server serving read writes will give me 11 meg a second on 100 enet :)
[05:06] <xweb> I mean in just upgraded from feisty to gusty and my ruby stoped working.
[05:08] <xweb> Any help would be appreciated.
[05:11] <krawek> xweb: why?
[05:12] <krawek> xweb: ruby -v
[05:12] <xweb> ruby: symbol lookup error: ruby: undefined symbol: ruby_init_stac
[05:13] <krawek> xweb: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install ruby1.8
[05:13] <xweb> perged and reinstalled already.
[05:18] <xweb> note i have heavy lag... ran apt-get --reinstall install ruby1.8.   same result
[05:21] <xweb> $ which ruby... /usr/bin/ruby
[05:21] <xweb> google has nothing on the error mesage.
[05:27] <xweb> looks like its installing v1.82 insted of 1.8.6 of the interpreter and installing 1.8.6 libs
[05:42] <m1k3> I need help, when ever wine starts configuring my mouse freezes and I have to restart my pc, any suggestions?
[05:54] <surgy> im trying to extract a rar archive using arch, but the archive needs a password, and i know the password, how do i tell arch to use the password?
[05:54] <bmack> can someone help me find a driver that works for ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT : everytime i enable ati accelerated graphics driver it wont let me boot back up
[05:54] <surgy> !ati  | bmack
[05:54] <ubotu> bmack: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <surgy> bmack: if your serious about linux you should lean more towards nvidia, they like us more
[05:55] <surgy> better opengl support and what not
[05:55] <olle_> surgy: you know when ATI's new famous linux drivers are ready?
[05:56]  * olle_ <3 AMD a bit
[05:56] <surgy> nope
[05:56] <surgy> i need help with arch though can someone help me?
[05:56] <surgy> or otherwise help me extract a rar that has a password ? i know the password.
[05:56] <bmack> ive enabled ati accelerated graphics driver in restricted drivers and it wont let me boot back up when everything starts up it wont startup powernowd
[05:57] <bmack> i cant get that driver to work
[05:57] <olle_> arch? the cmd line tool?
[05:57] <surgy> the gui tool in kubuntu
[05:57] <olle_> surgy: maybe the non-free multiverse RAR
[05:57] <surgy> ark*
[05:57] <se7en> surgy: unrar -xp yourrarfile.rar
[05:57] <surgy> se7en: and what about the password?
[05:57] <Kernel> i installed fluxbox but when i logged in...i cant do anything. right clicking doesnt bring up a menu like it used to/should do.
[05:58] <olle_> i once had to use the non-free rar in multiverse
[05:58] <se7en> the -p will hadle that
[05:58] <Kernel> i had to ctrl alt backspace to log out of it.
[05:58] <se7en> if you have the passwd :)
[05:58] <oakxx> firefox works for shit in linux
[05:58] <oakxx> like
[05:58] <surgy> se7en: where will it extract it to?
[05:58] <se7en> same dir
[05:58] <oakxx> on nvidia machiens it works fine, but on my ati machine i have mad troubles with it
[05:58] <surgy> se7en: thnx
[05:59] <se7en> np surgy
[05:59] <olle_> i tried to use a kubuntu live cd with a pc with ATI card. my longest uptime was 30 minutes.
[06:00] <surgy> se7en: doesnt work, it brings up the help list
[06:00] <olle_> i had 3 reboots :@
[06:01] <olle_> under X, the graphics turned FUBAR. both in VESA mode _and_ in ATI mode. i mean WTF?
[06:01] <se7en> sorry surgy -ep
[06:01] <se7en> unrar -ep yourrarfile.rar
[06:01] <surgy> same thing happens
[06:03] <se7en> surgy: do you have the unrar-nonfree package installed
[06:03] <oakxx> everyone here should check out automatix2
[06:04] <surgy> se7en: no but i got it to work sorta by using "unrar -e -p file.rar"
[06:04] <oakxx> i have i/o errors writing to a pata drive from a kubuntu live cd.
[06:04] <se7en> :)
[06:04] <surgy> but then it prompts for password, i enter it, and then it says reenter password, and then it prints the help thing again
[06:04] <bazhang> !automatix | oakxx
[06:04] <ubotu> oakxx: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:04] <Kernel> hmm yea..i reinstalled fluxbox and i still have no menu when i right click....so i cant open any apps or even log out
[06:05] <olle_> surgy: did you try multiverse rar?
[06:05] <surgy> E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[06:05] <Kernel> !fluxbox
[06:05] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:05] <olle_> surgy enable multiverse in sources settings
[06:05] <oakxx> pfft
[06:05] <oakxx> please
[06:06] <oakxx> automatix2 for kubuntu is a godsent
[06:06] <se7en> surgy: i have nonfree amd it worked for me
[06:06] <se7en> !automatix
[06:06] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:06] <surgy> it is enabled
[06:06] <olle_> weird
[06:06] <bazhang> automatix is a short term fix and a long term nightmare
[06:06] <olle_> do you have 7.04 like me?
[06:07] <surgy> and i hate auomatix
[06:07] <olle_> bazhang: then what do you say about things like easyubuntu?
[06:08] <Kernel> my right mouse button works fine in kde....but when i log into fluxbox it does not bring up a menu.......
[06:08] <oakxx> automatix2 for kubuntu is a godsent
[06:08] <bazhang> olle_: just use www.medibuntu.org and kubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:08] <oakxx> news flash
[06:08] <oakxx> ubunut itself is a mess
[06:08] <bazhang> !ot | oakxx
[06:08] <ubotu> oakxx: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:08] <surgy> !unrar nonfree
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar nonfree - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <surgy> !unrar
[06:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:09] <gtt> someone needs to update the download pages to remove the LTS from the title.
[06:10] <surgy> unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
[06:10] <surgy> unrar is already the newest version.
[06:10] <oakxx> i dare you to install flash on a 64 bit system without automatix
[06:10] <oakxx> i dare you.
[06:10] <oakxx> ill paypal you money if you show me how.
[06:11] <rredd4> where is the trash located in kde?  can't find it to empty it.
[06:11] <surgy> but why wont it work? this is stupid, archiving should be handled smoothly, and im missing something, wheres Dr_willis when you need him
[06:12] <surgy> rredd4: its on the main toolbar
[06:12] <bazhang> oakxx: this is a support channel; take it to offtopic please
[06:12] <surgy> am i going to have to try to run winzip through wine?
[06:14] <NickPresta> surgy, there is a utility to create a zip archive. What seems to be the problem?
[06:14] <rredd4> surgy I don't see it, I see:  Kmenu , Home icon, FireFox icon, 4 desktop panels, Klipper, Adept icon, Xchat icon and the clock.  Thats it
[06:15] <Tidus> rredd4: mine's to the right of the clock
[06:15] <surgy> NickPresta: i need to unrar an archive that has a password, i know the password, but when i enter the password at the prompt it doesnt work, and acts like i didnt enter the command right. and the gui ark tool that is present in kde, is aperently useless on encrypted archives
[06:15] <rredd4> Tidus there is a arrow to the right of my clock
[06:15] <Kernel> hmm also there is no fluxbox-generate_menu on my system?
[06:15] <se7en> surgy: if i recall right unrar-nonfree is in the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[06:16] <surgy> se7en: i have the newest version installed
[06:16] <rredd4> Tidus there is a arrow to the right of my clock  thats to hide the panel
[06:16] <adamonline46> Hello all!  For the last couple days I've been fiddling with accessing my network shares using Samba.  I FINALLY found out that if I use Dolphin and click 'open as root' while I'm inside the MSHOME folder, I can see the machines that are on the network and access their shares.  Is there any reason that anyone can think of that I can't view my MSHOME shares as a regular user?  All other computers can access this computer's shares, but
[06:17] <Tidus> rredd4: http://tidus.alive-awake.com/photos/?Qwd=./Screenshots/Linux&Qif=desktop_12_29_07.png&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M&Qtmp=FS <-- completely stock except changed the wallpaper
[06:18] <se7en> surgy: i don't get it but you could try 7zip with the command  7z x -p{passwort} file.rar
[06:19] <ollle> 7zip is great
[06:19] <NickPresta> surgy, I just created a rar archive (`rar a -p archive.rar file`) and then did `unrar e archive.rar`. It worked fine for me. Where was this archive created?
[06:19] <rredd4> Tidus surgy  i had to add the applet, now i see it
[06:19] <surgy> NickPresta: im not creating an archive
[06:20] <surgy> i use 7zip and got two errors, says its an unsupported method
[06:20] <NickPresta> surgy, I understand that. I created an archive with a password and then unrar'd it for testing purposes. It worked. unrar works when the archive has a password. I don't know why your specific archive fails to extract
[06:20] <Tidus> rredd4: it shoulda been there by default
[06:21] <rredd4> Tidus  I have never seen it until now, weird
[06:21] <surgy> NickPresta: want me to pm you the six lines of output that 7zip gives me?
[06:21] <NickPresta> surgy, sure, although I'm not sure I can help diagnose the problem. If the archive doesn't contain anything sensitive, you could send it to me and I can see if it works for me.
[06:23] <rredd4> ty all
[06:26] <xweb> sorry ... misfire
[06:30] <_CitizenKane_> where does kdm look for .desktop files?
[06:32] <_CitizenKane_> does anyone know?
[06:33] <oakxx> its deault ones?
[06:33] <oakxx> its default ones?
[06:33] <oakxx> ./etc/skel ?
[06:34] <_CitizenKane_> oakxx, the ones that end up being listed as loadable sessions
[06:35] <_CitizenKane_> like, KDE, gnome, etc
[06:40] <se7en> _CitizenKane_: i don't know what you want to do but most of the setting are in /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
[06:40] <_CitizenKane_> se7en, just add a new session to kdm
[06:41] <_CitizenKane_> which i thought would work if a new .desktop file was put in /usr/share/xsessions but it hasn't
[06:43] <bmack> when i boot after i select kubuntu a pops up for a few seconds and says Kernel alive' and kernel direct mapping tables up to 100000000 @ 8000-d000'
[06:43] <bmack> blank screen*
[06:53] <adamonline46> If I haven't touched the firewall settings that come with Kubuntu, and doing 'iptables -L' shows everything as 'allow', is it possible there's still something acting as a firewall in a near-stock Kubuntu?
[06:54] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, unlikely
[06:54] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Very well, thank you...
[06:55] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, what kind of problem are you having
[06:55] <_CitizenKane_> ?
[06:56] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Well, I can't see any of my network computers or their shares from my Kubuntu computer... I've been fiddling with it since yesterday morning, and tonight I found out if I click 'open as root' in dolphin while I'm in 'MSHOME', I CAN see the network shares...
[06:57] <adamonline46> I've been asking left and right and no one seems to have any ideas; I'm getting ready to give up until I want to access a network share again :(
[06:57] <_CitizenKane_> that's strange
[06:57] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Indeed.  I've verified my firewall's got no rules...
[06:58] <_CitizenKane_> well, try to open an IP address directly in dolphin or konqueror with
[06:59] <_CitizenKane_> smb:/ip-address-here
[06:59] <adamonline46> is it really only one slash?
[06:59] <adamonline46> I've been using 2...
[06:59] <_CitizenKane_> well, dolphin doesn't like it when i use two
[07:00] <adamonline46> ahh
[07:00] <se7en> dolphin only /
[07:00] <adamonline46> Yeah, in Konqueror all I get is a white-bg window...
[07:01] <_CitizenKane_> hmm, is there a firewall enabled on the computer you're trying to connect to
[07:01] <adamonline46> se7en: Thank you, useful info...
[07:02] <adamonline46> No, nothing... I even set up a minimal smb.conf with security = share, etc; which requires no password or anything
[07:02] <adamonline46> Plus, I can still access all my other machines from all my other machines...
[07:03] <_CitizenKane_> well, that's pretty strange
[07:03] <_CitizenKane_> maybe there's a solution besides using smb
[07:06] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Hmm.  Well, I'm trying to get to  my file server, and I've got a couple roommates on the network... Everything is set up as it should be, in terms of access rights, etc.  Hmm..  Dang, yeah, I'm just so stumped here... I can try FTP I suppose, just for kicks...
[07:07] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, i actually prefer ftp, i've found that it's much easier to set up than many other options
[07:10] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Oh yeah?  I will do it, if you can assure me that there is a PLAIN, boring, Windows-Explorer-like, saves passwords and doesn't prompt you every time, Windows client... 8)
[07:10] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, filezilla
[07:11] <adamonline46> Filezilla drives me nuts, and cuteFTP is not much better, plus I'm trying to not install any warez 8)
[07:12] <adamonline46> Just, I don't want to have a hundred frames in an FTP client; I just want something that runs transparently, like a mount...
[07:13] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, http://glosoli.blogspot.com/2005/10/map-drive-via-ftp-or-webdav.html
[07:15] <adamonline46> _CitizenKane_: Hmm... Bookmarked, indeed, should I not find a sufficient samba solution :)  Thank you very much for your time though, you're the only person to probe the matter with me 8)
[07:15] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, no problem
[07:40] <mahasamoot> My keyboard has a volume button, and a mute button.  I can see a volume metter come up when I press the button, but it doesn't change the volume.  Same for mute, it'll say mute on/off, but no effect.  I've confirmed that the master channel on Kmix is the right one, and when I change it on the pannel it works alright.  Also, sometimes, the volume meter will go up to 100% and down to 0%, smothly.... but at other times it's jerky and just goes from 0% to 11%
[07:41] <mahasamoot> I also have play/pause, stop, next, pervious, buttons, but they've always worked fine with Amorak
[07:42] <mahasamoot> The keyboard is a Logitech cordless desktop wave
[07:42] <mahasamoot> I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 alt amd64
[07:43] <mahasamoot> and I have 8 audio devices
[07:46] <adamonline46> Is there somewhere to 'enable file sharing' in Kubuntu?
[07:50] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: I'm looking into it
[07:51] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: on my machine there are settings, but it tells me the packages aren't installed
[07:52] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: try K > System Settings > Sharing
[07:52] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: you may already have the packages
[07:52] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: Hmm, alright... Yeah, I'm having issues with Samba, I think... Can't access any remote shares from Kubuntu...
[07:53] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: *Er, unless I'm root...
[07:53] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: I need to set this stuff up myself, maybe we can work thro it together
[07:54] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: what have you done so far?
[07:54] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: Alright, I'd be glad to help if I can... I'm not too great with Samba tho...
[07:54] <adamonline46> haha, my settings panel stopped responding...
[07:55] <adamonline46> I have Samba installed, and smbclient...
[07:55] <adamonline46> I can access local shares from remote locations, but not vice versa
[07:56] <adamonline46> never seen anything like this before, I've got 2 other computers using Samba fine, though this is the first time I've tried connecting to one of them (or my win box) from Linux...
[07:57] <mahasamoot> so your client is working, but not the server?
[07:58] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: No, the server is working, but not the client.
[07:58] <adamonline46> Er, maybe I should start over...
[07:58] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: ok, are you following a tutorial?
[08:02] <adamonline46> I've got 5 computers.  4 of them are using Linux: A Counter-Strike server, a web server, a laptop, and a new file server running Ubuntu, Debian, Kubuntu,  and Xubuntu respectively.  Then i've got a WinXP machine which can access all of those machine's shares.  I've never tried accessing any of those shares from another Linux box, but now with the laptop and fileserver I have a reason to.  So, basically, while the WinXP rig can view a
[08:02] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: haha, so, no, I'm not really following a tut... But I can help you out, if I can... What's your situation?
[08:03] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: I've just set up winXP in a kvm
[08:03] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: Ooh, that's cool
[08:04] <mahasamoot> I'd like it to get files on the host... and the host to connect a client for an appserver on winXP
[08:07] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: the networking stuff looked really compicated,... but the funny thing was, winXP can surf the web... even tho I didn't set it up yet
[08:09] <adamonline46> mahasamoot: Oh wow!  That's cool...
[08:09] <adamonline46> damn, I'm afraid I'm not gonna be much help...
[08:09] <mahasamoot> adamonline46: the question is, should I use NFS, and do it the Unix way, or Samba and do it the Windows way?
[08:10] <adamonline46> Well, what else is on your network?
[08:10] <adamonline46> I for one am trying to choose the simplicity of one config file, so I'm shooting to use Samba all round...
[08:10] <mahasamoot> just the host, and an internet connection
[08:11] <adamonline46> Then again, I have dhcp...
[08:12] <mahasamoot> since the network is already working for windows... ?  I'm guess it's already dhcp'd... on the other hand if it's static, that's simpler... isn't it?
[08:16] <adamonline46> yeah, it's simpler, unless you have new computers coming in and out regularly :)  If I had a better router, I could do both...
[08:17] <etfb> Does anyone else have a problem where Kopete, the chat program, "steals" the Ctrl+Shift+W key combination and stops it getting through to Firefox or any other program?  I've looked in Keyboard Settings and in Kopete's config menus and can't find any mention of it.  How do I fix it?
[08:19] <kubuntu> d
[08:20] <Mister_Hand> hi there
[08:20] <Mister_Hand> whats the program you use to search your drive for a specific file in kde?
[08:21] <adamonline46> Sorry, etfb, I wish I cuold help you... I'd like to ask, if anyone knows why not only can I not view my network shares from just this one machine, but when I clidk 'Sharing' under 'settings', the 'settings' panel freezes?  What's wrong here? This is driving me nutso!!! :O
[08:22] <Mister_Hand> nevermind
[08:22] <adamonline46> Mister_Hand: Possible Dolphin, but by CLI you can do 'find *file*.ext', or
[08:22] <adamonline46> oh ok
[08:23] <Mister_Hand> adamonline46, thanks
[08:23] <Tidus> etfb: i have that problem too playing World of Warcraft... KDE locks and holds the alt + ANYTHING combination
[08:23] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:24] <Tidus> and most of my in game shortcuts are bound to those keys
[08:24] <Zombocom> Tidus I have the problem where kde isn't bound to those keys
[08:30] <etfb> Looks like there's a general problem with overzealous key bindings in KDE then.  It should, in theory, give the current application first option at any keypress.  Instead, it's grabbing some itself, early.
[08:30] <etfb> Tidus: Have you had a look in settings to disable some of the global shortcuts you don't need?
[08:31] <etfb> Now I think of it, KDE grabs a bunch of keys that Emacs should be handling, too.  Odd.
[08:32] <adamonline46> !emacs
[08:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[08:32] <adamonline46> !code
[08:32] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[08:33] <Kernel> !java
[08:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:35] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[08:36] <Kernel> whats the recomended way to install suns jdk and suns jre on 7.10?
[08:36] <flaccid> just as above Kernel
[08:37] <flaccid> oh jdk?
[08:37] <Kernel> yea
[08:37] <flaccid> as in sdk ?
[08:37]  * flaccid goes to have a look
[08:37] <Kernel> well umm jdk is what i know it as.
[08:37] <_CitizenKane_> i think the package is just sun-java5-jdk
[08:37] <Kernel> its got javac and stuff
[08:37] <Kernel> ah
[08:37] <Kernel> ic now
[08:37] <Kernel> thanks
[08:38] <flaccid> sweet
[08:38] <GSF1200S_> anyone in here know how to link to buntu machines?
[08:38] <GSF1200S_> just simple file sharing
[08:38] <flaccid> !samba | GSF1200S_
[08:38] <ubotu> GSF1200S_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[08:38] <Kernel> GSF1200S_, linux to linux use nfs . linux and windows use samba
[08:38] <flaccid> there is !nfs also
[08:39] <GSF1200S_> yeah.. knew that about samba and nfs
[08:39] <adamonline46> Kernel: What if I need both?  Should I maintain two setups, or just use Samba on all?
[08:39] <flaccid> i think there is an applet as well for main panel
[08:39] <_CitizenKane_> adamonline46, I'd suggest samba
[08:39] <GSF1200S_> im going from buntu to mepis.. trying to transfer files off my windows part so I can remove it
[08:39] <flaccid> samba is regarded as more extensible and secure
[08:39] <Kernel> adamonline46, im not very familer with either...i just use ftp.
[08:39] <Kernel> or scp
[08:40] <flaccid> there is also things like ftpfs and sshfs
[08:40] <adamonline46> Kernel: FTP keeps popping up...  I think I'm gonna have to give it a shot...  Is there an 'ftpfs'-like thing for WinXP?  Something that's somewhat transparent and preferably free and free?
[08:41] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[08:41] <Drk_Guy> I need to change permissions for a whoel drive
[08:41] <Drk_Guy> *whole
[08:41] <Kernel> adamonline46, im not sure. sorry.
[08:41] <flaccid> what is the filesystem, Drk_Guy
[08:41] <Drk_Guy> How can i do that?
[08:41] <Drk_Guy> Ext2
[08:41] <GSF1200S_> gonna boot to windows and just try samba for now
[08:41] <Kernel> i just use pureftpd and gftp
[08:41] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: is this just an extra drive you use to store data on a mountpoint?
[08:42] <Drk_Guy> flaccid: It's my /home dir
[08:42] <Jeroi> Kernel filezilla is the best ftp client for linux and for windows also
[08:42] <flaccid> !perms | Drk_Guy
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <Drk_Guy> I'm a distro hopper
[08:42] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: its just chown and chmod like any unix
[08:42] <Drk_Guy> chown
[08:42] <Kernel> Jeroi, that opinion. ;-)
[08:42] <flaccid> or do it in kde
[08:42] <Kernel> i prefer gftp
[08:42] <Drk_Guy> But i don't know how to use it
[08:42] <adamonline46> Kernel: NP, ty
[08:42] <Jeroi> :)
[08:43] <Drk_Guy> Also, i tried chmod +r+w
[08:43] <Drk_Guy> But didn't work
[08:43] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: eg. sudo chown flaccid /home/flaccid
[08:43] <Kernel> adamonline46, :-)
[08:43] <flaccid> or do group as well sudo chown flaccid:flaccid /home/flaccid
[08:43] <Jeroi> I prefer programs that support both windows and linux
[08:43] <Drk_Guy> It didn't spit out anything
[08:43] <Drk_Guy> Is it ready?
[08:44] <Jeroi> That way I dont need to change program when using linux or windows
[08:45] <flaccid> Drk_Guy: that does the folder only, if you want to do all if its contents do: sudo chown -R flaccid:flaccid /home/flaccid for example. R being for recursive
[08:46] <flaccid> you can also do -Rv for verbose
[08:47] <Drk_Guy> It worked just fine
[08:47] <Drk_Guy> Thanks guys
[08:47] <flaccid> np
[08:49] <Drk_Guy> How to enable Mp3 playing?
[08:49] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, for what audio player?
[08:49] <Drk_Guy> Amarok
[08:49] <adamonline46> Might anyone know why I can only view remote Samba shares as root, but only from this machine?  Is this a 'sudo-like' form of security?
[08:51] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, sudo apt-get amarok-xine
[08:51] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, oops ---> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[08:52] <Drk_Guy> _CitizenKane_: I have Kubuntu Gutsy
[08:52] <corporeal> kubuntu for the win
[08:52] <Drk_Guy> It already has amarok
[08:52] <Kernel> !kernel
[08:52] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[08:53] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, amarok-xine is an amarok backend, it may not be installed
[08:53] <tmske> anyone who knows why ndiswrapper doesn't load wlan0 while ndiswrapper -l shows a correct driver and the alternate driver is blacklisted
[08:53] <Drk_Guy> hmmm
[08:53] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[08:53] <Drk_Guy> I'll try
[08:54] <MGrunde> "modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[08:54] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, also ---> sudo apt-get install libmad0
[08:55] <Drk_Guy> _CitizenKane_: That's GStreamer, right?
[08:56] <ICQnumber> howto restart network manager
[08:56] <MGrunde> Drk_Guy, also libxine1-ffmpeg
[08:56] <_CitizenKane_> Drk_Guy, no it's the mpeg decoder library, so it can decode mp3s, i'm pretty sure that's necessary
[08:56] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[08:56] <_CitizenKane_> it's been awhile so I don't remember all of the different packages :P
[08:56] <tmske> MGrunde: no that does load ndiswrapper but wlan doesn't get loaded: output dmesg, last lines: unloaded en loaded ndiswrapper: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50085/
[08:57] <_CitizenKane_> ICQnumber, do you just need to restart the network manager applet?
[08:58] <ICQnumber> _CitizenKane_: no
[09:00] <MGrunde> tmske: And after that there's no wlan0 in if/iwconfig?
[09:00] <_CitizenKane_> ICQnumber, you can kill the networkmanager process and then start it again
[09:02] <flaccid> ICQnumber: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[09:02] <MGrunde> I know exactly what you mean CitizenKane.  I remembered it had something to do with xine, but that was about it.
[09:03] <Jeroi> hey is I buy in 3 month 4core amd prosessor, can I run my linux still even if my motherboard and memory is changed with the prosessor?
[09:03] <tmske> MGrunde: no, it does not load, that's my problem.  It looks like ndiswrapper works, but I doesn't load wlan0.
[09:04] <ICQnumber> _CitizenKane_: found it it is : su -c"/etc/init.d/network restart"
[09:04] <Jeroi> I mean can I just download smp kernel form apt?
[09:05] <MGrunde> That's really odd.  Did you install it with apt or compile it yourself?
[09:05] <Jeroi> me?
[09:05] <MGrunde> tmske
[09:06] <Jeroi> oh
[09:06] <MGrunde> Sorry.
[09:06] <kvonb> anyone know why my etc-rc0.d folder is empty?
[09:06] <kvonb> ...and no I didn't delete everything! :)
[09:07] <tmske> MGrunde: I tried both, now it is with compiled version
[09:07] <ardchoille> kvonb: etc-rc0.d  or  /etc/rc0.d ?
[09:08] <kvonb> yeah with the slashes, I didn't think it would work in IRC though :)
[09:08] <ardchoille> :)
[09:08] <James296> how come when I do a system update on Kubuntu 7.10, it actually comes up w/ an error that tells me I need to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.10, when I actually am running Kubuntu 7.10?
[09:08] <kvonb> cos Kubuntu 7.10 is full of bugs :(
[09:09] <ardchoille> kvonb: We don't need that here.
[09:09] <jpatrick> kvonb: mine has some files in it
[09:09] <James296> this is even on the live CD that was shipped to me today...
[09:09] <James296> this really upsets me
[09:09] <kvonb> jpatrick - could you give me a listing of your rc0.d folder so I can rebuild it please?
[09:10] <James296> and it ends up becoming more unstable after doing required updates and upgrades
[09:10] <kvonb> James296 - I had the same problem, a reinstall fixed it!
[09:10] <jpatrick> kvonb: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3122/ - there you go
[09:11] <cptR3D> can someone tell me how to change a video driver?
[09:11] <kvonb> onya mate, thanks :D
[09:11] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, there's an easier way
[09:11] <James296> whats the easier way?
[09:12] <starscreamd> I was trying to install flash and am having problems with possibly breaking dependencies in Kubuntu Gutsy. I went to a page with flash content in Konqueror and attempted to install the flash plugin. Halfway through the install, I got an error about the flashplayer.xpt not existing. So the install fails, and when I attempt a sudran to install update/safe-upgrade, it says:dpkg --configure -a must be ran to correct the problem.
[09:12] <starscreamd> After that is executed...
[09:12] <_CitizenKane_> James296, use the update-rc.d command
[09:12] <jpatrick> James296: open console: and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:12] <MGrunde> tmske: I'm really not sure.  If it's behaving the same when it's installed with apt and compiled, I'd have to guess that it's an issue with the driver, but that doesn't seem very likely.
[09:12] <kvonb> thanks jpatrick :)
[09:12] <ardchoille> !flashissue | starscreamd
[09:12] <ubotu> starscreamd: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:13] <starscreamd> Thanks ubotu
[09:13] <ardchoille> !thanks
[09:13] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:13] <starscreamd> err ard
[09:13] <kvonb> ...for some reason Kubuntu will not shutdown, and I noticed my etc rc0.d folder was empty!
[09:13] <ardchoille> :)
[09:13] <jpatrick> starscreamd: and /topic
[09:14] <_CitizenKane_> James296, kvonb you can change into /etc/init.d folder
[09:14] <tmske> MGrunde: well the strange thing is that I haven't found anyone with my problem, so I think it's something I did wrong, but I don't know what.  I tried to reinstall a couple of times but I didn't work
[09:14] <tmske> reinstall ndiswrapper that is
[09:15] <_CitizenKane_> and then update-rc.d for the startup scripts
[09:15] <James296> who here likes using Dolphin?
[09:15] <cptR3D> I like using it fine
[09:15] <MGrunde> As do I.
[09:15] <_CitizenKane_> James296, it's alright, I prefer the KDE4 version much more though
[09:15] <James296> how is KDE4 shaping up btw?
[09:15] <kvonb>  <_CitizenKane_> so I just run: sudo update-rc.d from the init.d folder?
[09:16] <James296> I never got to test it out
[09:16] <_CitizenKane_> James296, quite nicely, not too much crashing anymore :)
[09:16] <James296> lol
[09:16] <James296> great
[09:16] <James296> cant wait
[09:16] <MGrunde> tmske:  Okay, lets try uninstalling your compiled version, then "modprobe -r ndiswrapper"
[09:16] <James296> I cant test it out now mainly because Im way over my bandwidth usage :-(
[09:16] <_CitizenKane_> James296, but it is quite nice, pretty snappy, looks good
[09:17] <tmske> MGrunde: ok I'll do that
[09:17] <James296> anyway I SHOULd get goin I have work in the afternoon I need sleep lol
[09:17] <MGrunde> tmske: Then install it with apt, and along with it, install ndisgtk
[09:18] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, something like this: sudo update-rc.d [script-name-here] defaults
[09:18] <oakxx> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:18] <oakxx> anyone  use the ndiswrapper driver version for his type of card?
[09:18] <oakxx> this
[09:20] <MGrunde> tmske: the package name for ndiswrapper is ndiswrapper-common
[09:20] <MGrunde> oakxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[09:20] <kvonb> ok, thanks :)
[09:20] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, that will install all of the symlinks into the correct folders
[09:21] <podr0znik> morning :)
[09:21] <jpatrick> moin podr0znik
[09:21] <podr0znik> just a quick question
[09:21] <tmske> MGrunde: done
 sorry, what goes here:  [script-name-here]
[09:21] <podr0znik> I'm trying to playback an .avi file, but kaffeine seems not to be able to handle this
[09:21] <podr0znik> do I have to get some plugin or better another player?
[09:21] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, the name of the startup script
[09:21] <MGrunde> tmske: try running ndisgtk and installing
[09:22] <MGrunde> installing the driver for your card*
[09:22] <drkguy_> Guys
[09:22] <tmske> MGrunde: done, it shows hardware present
[09:22] <MGrunde> tmske: And what does iwconfig say?
[09:22] <cptR3D> i use vlc
[09:23] <Drk_Guy> guys
[09:23] <cptR3D> and watch divx and xvid
[09:23] <Drk_Guy> I did what you suggested
[09:23] <Drk_Guy> And it worked like a charm
 ok, so for each entry in the list that patrick gave me?
[09:23] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, minus the number
[09:23] <MGrunde> Glad it worked out for you Drk_Guy
[09:23] <_CitizenKane_> kvonb, if you do: ls /etc/init.d
[09:23] <kvonb> ah, excellent, thanks :)
[09:24] <jpatrick> kvonb: assuming you have it installed tho :=
[09:24] <_CitizenKane_> you can see all of the startup scripts
[09:24] <tmske> MGrunde: still nothing, but I do have FATAL; could not open /lib/modules/.....ndiswrapper.ko: No such file or directory, so I asume something went wrong installing, I'll try again
[09:24] <kvonb> thanks guys, I'll give it a go :)
[09:25] <MGrunde> tmske: that error looks very familiar.  I'm sure I've seen that, I belive it gave me quite a bit of trouble.  Can't think of how I fixed it though...
[09:26] <podr0znik> the description of VLC looks interesting
[09:26] <podr0znik> trying now
[09:28] <MGrunde> tmske: Before you reinstall ndiswrapper-common "modprobe -r ndiswrapper" "sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/2.6.[***]-[***]/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper"
[09:29] <cptR3D> hey podr0znik I aslo think i have a divx thing installed just search for it in the adept installer or something
[09:30] <_CitizenKane_> podr0znik, try installing ffmpeg
[09:30] <cptR3D> but I can play mp3s, avi's and all that goodness that i download
[09:30] <podr0znik> mp3s I can play in Amarok after installing mp3 support
[09:31] <cptR3D> :]
[09:31] <podr0znik> but surely sb will say that Amarok is hopeless and there are better programs :)
[09:32] <cptR3D> sb?
[09:32] <MGrunde> podr0znik: installing kubuntu-restricted-extras should fix things up for you.  It'll also install Java and some other things, so if you don't want those, don't do it.
[09:32] <cptR3D> where is the restricted extras?
[09:32] <ardchoille> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:32] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[09:32] <MGrunde> Thanks ardchoille
[09:32] <ardchoille> yw
[09:33] <MGrunde> (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras)
[09:33] <jpatrick> yep
[09:33] <podr0znik> it seems to work already
[09:35] <podr0znik> it works perfectly fine now :)
[09:36] <tmske> MGrunde: that doesn't work either, I don't get the FATAL if I install ndiswrapper from source, else I do get it
[09:41] <MGrunde> tmske:  Okay, then what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[09:42] <kraut> moin
[09:42] <ScottG> it's far too early..
[09:43] <ScottG> my 3 year old daughter can't sleep.. so neither can I..
[09:46] <tmske> MGrunde: ndiswrapper -l still says it is correctly installed. I get the FATAL message when modprobing.  I found in ubuntuforums that other people couldn't downgrade to apt packages after installing ndiswrapper 1.51 from source
[09:47] <tmske> MGrunde: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417731&highlight=FATAL&page=9 here it is, but no solution :s
[09:47] <MGrunde> Yeah.  I was just reading that.
[09:49] <MGrunde> Wait, is the FATAL message an "operation not permitted" message, or a "No such file or directory" message
[09:50] <tmske> MGrunde: No such file or directory
[09:51] <MGrunde> Okay, updatedb, then locate ndiswrapper.ko
[09:53] <MGrunde> Anything?
[09:54] <tmske> MGrunde: ok I'll try that in a moment, was just trying again with ndiswrapper compiled from source and running it with ndiswrapper-buginfo: it gives me an error message ERROR: Module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[09:55] <tmske> MGrunde: i'll now try to locate with apt package
[09:56] <shitsweak> I can;t get my computer to recognize my printer
[09:58] <MGrunde> What type of printer do you have?
[09:58] <shitsweak> Epson photo printer
[09:58] <MGrunde> What model?
[10:00] <shitsweak> B412A
[10:01] <MGrunde> Epson Stylus Photo R280 Series?
[10:02] <shitsweak> yeah
[10:03] <MGrunde> Sorry mate, it's a paperweight
[10:03] <MGrunde> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R280
[10:03] <matteo_2504> can help me
[10:03] <jussi01> !ask | matteo_2504
[10:03] <ubotu> matteo_2504: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:03] <Tm_T> shitsweak: hi, can I ask you to change your nick?
[10:03] <matteo_2504> how to install kde4
[10:03] <Hirvinen> !kde4 | matteo_2504
[10:03] <ubotu> matteo_2504: kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[10:04] <shitsweak> umm ok
[10:05] <Tm_T> taco: ooh thank you sir :)
[10:05] <cptR3D> grandmas boy
[10:05] <cptR3D> lol
[10:05] <tmske> matteo_2504: if you know how to compile I would recommend you to compile packages from svn, it will take a while and it's harder than just install the packages, but you will be more up to date: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[10:08] <cptR3D> soo can anyone help me on the issue of my laptop freezing when I close the lid?
[10:09] <cptR3D> I looked on the forms and it says I need to change a driver but do not know how to do so
[10:10] <matteo_2504> to install kde4?
[10:10] <MGrunde> How's it going tmske?
[10:11] <cptR3D> !driver
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <cptR3D> !i836
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i836 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <mauri> I added a sound card into my pc using kubuntu 7.10 but i'm not able to use amarok. It do not play anything
[10:11]  * cptR3D 
[10:11]  * cptR3D is at a loss
[10:12] <jussi01> !patience | cptR3D
[10:12] <ubotu> cptR3D: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:12] <tmske> MGrunde: well it looks like there were ndiswrapper.ko files for the wrong kernel, I removed them now trying to reinstall ndiswrapper and see if it works, if not, I'll try to reboot into the kernel that they were installed to, to check if it works there
[10:12] <cptR3D> thanks
[10:12] <cptR3D> I have the patience
[10:12] <cptR3D> I will try later ya'll r pretty helpful
[10:12] <jussi01> cptR3D: now, what sort of graphics card do you have?
[10:13] <jussi01> cptR3D: and please show me the forums thread you were speaking about.
[10:13] <MGrunde> tmske: Actually, it make work if you just copy the file to your current kernel's /lib/modules folder
[10:14] <cptR3D> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579469
[10:14] <matteo_2504> if i want to install kd4 i use konsole terminal or i must enter kubuntu?
[10:14] <cptR3D> in the form i have the d505 actually so I think i need that i810
[10:15] <tmske> matteo_2504: it should work from terminal
[10:15] <matteo_2504> with x-windows?
[10:15] <chakie> wrt the "Flash plugin installation is currently broken" thing, will flash ever work in konqueror again or is it time to migrate to firefox?
[10:15] <jussi01> cptR3D: you have which chipset?
[10:16] <matteo_2504> need enlightment how to install please
[10:16] <jussi01> !flashissues | chakie
[10:16] <ubotu> chakie: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:16] <chakie> jussi01: i didn't mean downloading, i meant flash not just working at all
[10:17]  * chakie hasn't seen a youtube video for weeks!
[10:17] <mauri> amule crashs when updates the servers list
[10:17] <llutz> chakie: you haven't missed anything :)
[10:17] <cptR3D> jussi01: how do i find that out?
[10:18] <chakie> llutz: heh
[10:18] <taco> how do i open the data on my SD card
[10:18] <jussi01> cptR3D: I think sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will so it - you can choose i810 there. but be sure to back up your xorg.conf first.
[10:19] <revoldz> ask please : my dial up connection is work, but i cant browse with konqueror
[10:19] <mauri> someone can help me with amule
[10:21] <revoldz> anyone?
[10:21] <revoldz> ask please : my dial up connection is work, but i cant browse with konqueror
[10:22] <Chousuke> TimS: no
[10:22] <Chousuke> whoops
[10:22] <Chousuke> stuck in backlog again :(
[10:23] <tmske> MGrunde: well I installed the hardy kernel (also the ndiswrapper packages of hardy) because of a acpi error that was fixed in 2.6.24, so copying won't work. all the other packages are from gutsy.
[10:23] <taco> revoidz> have you tried firefox
[10:23] <revoldz> taco : i dont have firefox
[10:24] <tmske> revoldz: can you ping to an adress?
[10:25] <revoldz> tmske : havent try to ping yet, but my kopete and this Konversation is working good
[10:25] <MGrunde> tmske: Well, hopefully booting into the other kernel works.
[10:25] <cptR3D> jussi01: thx for the help
[10:26] <jussi01> cptR3D: let us knw if it works. did you understand my instuctions?
[10:27] <mauri> someone can help me with amule
[10:27] <cptR3D> jussi01: i am trying it now yes I understand it. thank you vm
[10:27] <jussi01> cptR3D: just make sure you make a back up of the conf file
[10:28] <shelby> Can someone help me access my SD card
[10:30] <cptR3D> how do I do that?
[10:30] <tmske> MGrunde: I'll try it this afternoon. I'm still trying with this kernel, ndiswrapper-buginfo shows unexpected operator:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50088/
[10:30] <MGrunde> Shelby: What seems to be the problem?
[10:31] <jussi01> cptR3D: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:31] <mauri> i've problems with my webcam, someone can help me
[10:32] <shelby> I put the SD card in the slot on the computer but nothing happens after that
[10:32] <MGrunde> tmske: Well good luck.  I'm going to try to get some sleep.  It's 04:30 here, and I'm quite tired.
[10:32] <cptR3D> jussi01: tuvm
[10:32] <tmske> MGrunde: thanks for the help and good night!
[10:33] <shelby> Anyone else know what i can do
[10:33] <Freku> prey
[10:36] <revoldz> tmske :
[10:36] <revoldz> root@revoldz-laptop:~# ping www.langowan.com
[10:36] <revoldz> PING www.langowan.com (66.235.195.158) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:36] <revoldz> --- www.langowan.com ping statistics ---
[10:36] <revoldz> 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 8999ms
[10:37] <revoldz> tmske : loss :(
[10:38] <jussi01> !paste | revoldz
[10:38] <ubotu> revoldz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:38] <tmske> revoldz: it's strange that you can connect with konversation.  can you restart Networkmanager and try again: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[10:39] <revoldz> tmske : ok i'll try..
[10:41] <alfonso> hola
[10:43] <alfonso> lguien me puede decir como puedo instalar el amule  pues le doy a instalar en el gestor de archivos y no lo instala, mi distro es kubuntu  7.10
[10:43] <jussi01> !es | alfonso
[10:43] <ubotu> alfonso: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:46] <jussi01> cptR3D: any luck?
[10:47] <kkrzysiekk> do you speak polish ??
[10:47] <revoldz> tmske : it works ! big thanks !
[10:47] <cptR3D> jussi01: nah man it still locked up
[10:47] <jussi01> cptR3D: so you went through th dialougue and chose i810 etc
[10:47] <tmske> revoldz: no problem
[10:47] <cptR3D> jussi01: correct
[10:48] <cptR3D> jussi01: i went with defalt everything
[10:48] <jussi01> cptR3D: did you choose i810 driver though?
[10:48] <cptR3D> jussi01: yes i did
[10:49] <jussi01> cptR3D: and did you test the lockup after restart?
[10:51] <cptR3D> jussi01: the id matched the one i got with a device manager
[10:52] <cptR3D> jussi01: yeah I restarted then shut the lid and it was froze so restarted again.. I will try one more time to make sure
[10:52] <cptR3D> jussi01: brb
[10:52] <zerlord^> hallo
[10:53] <zerlord^> Kann mir jemand verraten wie ich dual screen unter kubuntu hinbekomme?
[10:53] <Hirvinen> !de | zerlord^
[10:53] <ubotu> zerlord^: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:53] <zerlord^> ah okey thank you!
[10:54] <zerlord^> boubbin
[10:54] <zerlord^> olet ko soumesta?
[10:55] <jussi01> !en | zerlord^
[10:55] <ubotu> zerlord^: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:57] <starscreamd> I'm running Gutsy on a Dell XPS m1330 3gb ram, 8400 Nvidia card etc.. I've been able to properly setup my xorg.conf and Nvidia drivers. as far as I can tell, yet when I install compiz I can see no window borders. Any Tips?
[10:58] <Freku> use emerald for borders
[10:59] <Freku> use emerald for borders
[10:59] <Freku> 1
[11:00] <jussi01> Freku: everything ok?
[11:00] <ScottG> starscreamd: there's an easy solution to this
[11:01] <Stevie2k> hi @all
[11:02] <jussi01> !hi | Stevie2k
[11:02] <ubotu> Stevie2k: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:02] <Stevie2k> I have a very strange problem with my keyboard...
[11:02] <starscreamd> Sweet I just got it. I installed emerald and did emerald --replace. How can I set these as the default apps
[11:03] <Stevie2k> I log on into kde and after that the keyboard seems to be nearly dead... It takes about one second until a character comes up....
[11:03] <Stevie2k> I am even not able to switch to a console to check the running processes and so on...
[11:04] <jussi01> Stevie2k: how is the rest of performance? ie with mouse etc?
[11:04] <Stevie2k> no problems... even compiz
[11:04] <Stevie2k> runs without any loss of performance
[11:04] <starscreamd> Tried another keyboard Stevie2k?
[11:05] <Stevie2k> I use the same keyboard for another pc
[11:05] <Stevie2k> (I am just using that one...)
[11:05] <Stevie2k> and I don't have any problems bevore logging into kde...
[11:05] <starscreamd> Try to use a different keyboard on the PC you're having issues with to start with.
[11:06] <Stevie2k> Can it be a keyboard issue if everything is fine - except when I log into KDE?
[11:06] <starscreamd> If I put a file into ~.kde/Autostart to start emerald would that be effective? Anyone try this?
[11:07] <starscreamd> Might be.. You could completely rule it out if a seperate keyboard has issues
[11:08] <Stevie2k> hmmm.. I have to check if I find another keyboard...
[11:10] <starscreamd> brb, trying auto-install script..
[11:11] <Stevie2k> could the keyboard
[11:11] <Stevie2k> sry... forget it..
[11:11] <cptR3D> jussi01: after restart I got a message to continue or choose something so I chose something and it gave me multipul choices or scan so i did scan and my screen fuzzed and came back and gave me the same options so i chose '0' (?? had no idea what to do) and it loaded fine but still froze when I opened the lid
[11:12] <starscreamd> Sweet, it worked
[11:13] <cptR3D> jussi01:  upon restart I got the same option to chose or contine so i contued and it loaded just fine but it still froze when i oped the lid
[11:13] <cptR3D> how do I restore my backedup file?
[11:20] <vladimir> yo
[11:20] <vladimir> man
[11:20] <vladimir> whatsup
[11:20] <vladimir> stupid thing that i cant login as root with su
[11:24] <fdoving> vladimir: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more info on that subject. you can activate the regular su easily.
[11:36] <Stevie2k> :-) I solved my keyboard problem...
[11:37] <ubuntu_> Hi :)
[11:37] <Minnozz> Hi, anybody knows why I can't paste my screenshot in (for instance) KolourPaint when I 'Copy to clipboard' in KSnapshot?
[11:37] <Stevie2k> It was a setting for handicapped people to slow down the keyboard... and this was set to 500ms so the keyboard was really very slow...
[11:37] <ubuntu_> i just install kubuntu 7.10 i choose not to  install grub, and now on reboot i get message "missing operating system"
[11:37] <Stevie2k> thx @all and bye
[11:38] <ubuntu_> i thougth if i don't install grub system wil autmaticly install boot sector
[11:38] <ubuntu_> any ideas what is wrong
[11:38] <Freku> maybe your harddisk with kubuntu is not in your bios bootlist
[11:39] <ubuntu_> it is only hard disc i got, and it is first on boot list
[11:39] <etfb> I found an interim solution to the problem of Kopete "stealing" keys away from other applications, if anyone's interested...
[11:39] <etfb> It was stopping Ctrl+Shift+W from closing Firefox, because it means "Toggle 'Away' Status" in Kopete
[11:40] <ubuntu_> i'm thinking about install again witch grub and just set timeotu to "0" but it's not nice solution :|
[11:40] <jussi01> ubuntu_: you need grub
[11:40] <ubuntu_> is there anything like windows fixmbr?
[11:41] <ubuntu_> but if ubuntu is only system on my hd, then what for?
[11:41] <etfb> The solution is to define any commands you want as global keyboard shortcuts using the System Settings / Keyboard thingy.  Added bonus is that they then work in all programs, so I can close any program using the shortcut that I grew used to just in Firefox.
[11:41] <jussi01> ubuntu_: grub boots ubuntu. you need it.
[11:41] <etfb> A real solution would be for the Kopete maintainers not to steal key commands, of course...
[11:41] <ubuntu_> ok, thanx
[11:41] <ubuntu_> roger, roger :)
[11:43] <dani_> hi
[11:45] <pjfloyd> anyone know what's the problem with command line completion?
[11:46] <pjfloyd> esc-esc doesn't complete until another key is pressed (e.g., space)
[11:48] <etfb> pjfloyd: It's using Emacs keyboard shortcuts, so Esc is kind of tricky and might even be confusing matters.  What is Esc Esc supposed to do in this case?
[11:49] <pjfloyd> etfb: just completion, like tab in some systems
[11:49] <etfb> What shell?
[11:49] <pjfloyd> etfb: I normally use ksh, but I think it's with bash
[11:50] <djdarkman> hello, is there a better file system cheker than fsck? fsck seemmed to have destroyed my /home on another machine and I want it back
[11:50] <Minnozz> anybody knows why I can't paste my screenshot in (for instance) KolourPaint when I 'Copy to clipboard' in KSnapshot?
[11:50] <etfb> I use bash, and I don't seem to get any particular response when I press Esc Esc.
[11:50] <pjfloyd> perhaps I'll try a real ksh from AT&T
[11:51] <jpatrick> pjfloyd: if you tab completation use zsh
[11:51] <pjfloyd> I'm used to using esc-esc
[11:51] <girolamo> !italiano
[11:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:52] <etfb> Minnozz: KolourPaint is pretty minimalist; maybe it doesn't handle the clipboard very well.  Clipboard is still a dark art in Linux -- not like MacOS or that other popular operating system, where it's actually pretty stable and easy to use.
[11:52] <Minnozz> lol @ 'that other popular operating system'
[11:53] <jussi01> Minnozz: have you considerd saving the screenshot, then opening with said program?
[11:53] <Minnozz> etfb: thanks for the info, now I know it's not a configuration problem
[11:53] <pjfloyd> (I have Solaris and FreeBSD running at the moment, and for both with bash if I type, say "ls bo[esc-esc]" it completes to "ls boost_1_34_1/"
[11:53] <etfb> Minnozz: I try not to mention its name.  It's like saying "Macbeth" among actors.  Maybe I should call it "The Scottish OS", but nobody would understand me...
[11:53] <gspr> What packages should be installed for KDE 4 in Hardy?
[11:53] <jussi01> !kde4 > gspr
[11:53] <etfb> Minnozz: I'm just guessing based on what I know about these things though, so don't give up on my account.
[11:54] <Minnozz> jussi01: yes I know that works, but it's one more step to make, pasting it directly is faster (that's why I asked)
[11:54] <jussi01> Minnozz: ahh, ok :D
[11:54] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: You have to enable image handling in Klipper.  Wait a sec ...
[11:54] <Minnozz> ah, solution! =D
[11:55] <etfb> Minnozz: (See?  "The danger in declaring something to be impossible is that you'll be trampled by all the people busy doing it.")
[11:55] <pjfloyd> etfb: Mac OS X clipboard is mediocre when you mix X11 apps
[11:55] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: Close Klipper.  In the [general] section of ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc, and the line IgnoreImages=false
[11:55] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: Re-start klipper and it should work.
[11:55] <etfb> pjfloyd: Probably a symptom of the poor quality X11 implementation they use, if my reading is accurate.
[11:55] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: (I've just tested it here)
[11:56] <Minnozz> SSJ_GZ: okay, thanks a lot!
[11:56] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: np :)
[11:56] <etfb> SSJ_GZ: Shiny!  Thanks for that one!
[11:56] <SSJ_GZ> :)
[11:56] <pjfloyd> etfb: possible, Lepoard switched to Xorg, and it still has lots of problems
[11:56] <SSJ_GZ> Background reading: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1787
[11:58] <Minnozz> SSJ_GZ: It worked, thanks again! ;)
[11:58] <SSJ_GZ> Minnozz: Great!
[11:59] <etfb> SSJ_GZ: Another one for my Read Me bookmark folder.  Thanks.  Has anyone else noticed how useful Firefox tabs are for IRC?  I come away from an extended chat session with a pile of open tabs, which I then save as a bookmarked folder and spend the next day browsing.  Excellent!  But I digress...
[11:59] <etfb> Has anyone noticed that the Downloads dialog in Firefox doesn't work under Kubuntu?  That is, you can download files, but often the "Open" link does nothing.
[12:00] <nick__> Hey everyone, i have an zipping question.  I have a 5.12gb file and I want to compress it to fit on a standard dvd.  I've tried using ark but it doesn't seem to compress it very much.  Do I have any other options?
[12:00] <etfb> Also, I can't open the "All files download to" folder either.  Worked in Ubuntu, as far as I can remember, but does nothing in Kubuntu.
[12:01] <etfb> nick__: What format is the file?
[12:01] <etfb> nick__: If it's video or JPEG, it's already compressed close to the optimal amount.
[12:01] <nick__> etfb: It is a collection of 13 .avi files in one folder
[12:02] <etfb> nick__: You're out of luck then.  AVI is pretty efficient already.  You won't find a compression tool to decrease it significantly.
[12:02] <etfb> nick__: Can you burn dual-layer DVDs?
[12:02] <nick__> etfb: hmmm, alright, guess I'll have to split it up, unfortunately no :)
[12:03] <etfb> nick__: Probably best; don't trust your important files to new technology!
[12:03] <nick__> etfb: Just out of curiosity, about what ratio does ark compress things to, say I had an uncompressed .mov file
[12:03] <etfb> nick__: Length of a piece of string multiplied by the number you first thought of.
[12:04] <etfb> nick__: In other words, it depends.
[12:04] <nick__> etfb: that's a funny saying :)
[12:04] <etfb> nick__: Video, audio and jpegs won't compress much though.  Text will often go down to 33% or so.  Executables vary widely.  Other formats are anyone's guess.
[12:05] <nick__> etfb: Thank you so much for your help, you've been very informative
[12:05] <etfb> nick__: (I refer to some calculations as being "LPS Protocol Compliant" if you have no way of guessing how accurate they are -- LPS = Length of a Piece of String)
[12:06] <etfb> nick__: HTH. HAND. And other such silly acronyms.
[12:07] <etfb> So: Firefox.  Can someone else try this for me?  Open Firefox, open the Downloads window, and click the button next to "All files download to".  Does it open a file browser, or just do nothing?
[12:09] <nick__> etfb: Doesn't do anything for me
[12:09] <rothchild> etfb I noticed that was broken too you have to change it in the firefox preferences page
[12:09] <etfb> rothchild: Where?
[12:11] <etfb> rothchild: Can't see any options that specify the file manager to use.  It should just pick up the default.
[12:11] <VampireKing> what you suggest to see chm files ?
[12:11] <etfb> VampireKing: I use kchmviewer.
[12:12] <rothchild> under edit preferences you can change the download folder
[12:12] <etfb> rothchild: Yes - but it doesn't make the button work.
[12:13] <etfb> rothchild: Maybe it's an about:config thing.
[12:13] <rothchild> but when you hit the 'download to' button on the download manager itself as you way it just opens a browser windo
[12:14] <etfb> rothchild: Yeah - which makes me think it's a bug in Firefox, because it's inconsistent.
[12:15] <nick__> Hey, I have one more question, I want to look into using the server edition to use on a home network (backups, media storage, etc..) can anyone point me to a good guide about the server edition?  I'm looking for a primer really
[12:16] <ScottG> wb ubuntu_
[12:16] <ScottG> is that a default username in an IRC client?
[12:17] <noaXess> what best to use on kde for recording sound from mic?
[12:17] <zerlord^> hallo
[12:18] <rothchild> nick__ samba will do most of what you want or you could look at stuff about LAMP servers for more advanced setups
[12:18] <rothchild> noaXess: for simple stuff (non multitrack) you can't really beat Audacity
[12:19] <jussi01> ScottG: I think so
[12:19] <nick__> rothchild: Thanks for the tip I'm looking into it now
[12:19] <noaXess> rothchild: i want just record my voices over a mic..
[12:22] <rothchild> noaXess: yup audacity
[12:22] <noaXess> rothchild: ah.. i see ;) sorry..
[12:25] <mauri> I have to load a new gspca module but i'm don't know how to do that
[12:31] <mauri> i've a question on dolphin
[12:33] <jussi01> !ask | mauri
[12:33] <ubotu> mauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:34] <Ayabara> I have been using gnome, but decided to install kubuntu-desktop yesterday, since I use a lot of kde-apps. When I logged into the kde-session, my networking didn't work, but it works fine in gnome. Make any sense?
[12:35] <Blissex> Ayabara: no.
[12:35] <mauri> jussi01: if i opne storage media, i don't find a floppy
[12:35] <Blissex> Ayabara: the network is independent of the desktop environment. Most likely it is the web proxy that is not setup.
[12:35] <Ayabara> Blissex, ok. what does that mean I have to do?
[12:36] <Blissex> Ayabara: try 'ping www.kubuntu.org' inside Konsole.
[12:36] <Blissex> Ayabara: what you have to do depends on what you mean with "networking didn't work"
[12:36] <Blissex> ubotu does not not work
[12:37] <jussi01> mauri: !test
[12:37] <jussi01> !test
[12:37] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:37] <Blissex> ubotu doesn't not work
[12:37] <Ayabara> Blissex, I'll check it out. I can start a kde session on another terminal while my current gnome is up and running, right?
[12:37] <Blissex> !doesn't not work
[12:37] <mauri> jussi01: sorry i dont understand
[12:37] <jussi01> mauri: it was a mistake, my apoligies.
[12:38] <Blissex> Ayabara: sure, or you can run KDE inside a virtual X desktop, for example with 'Xephyr' or 'Xnest'. But probably is simpler on another terminal.
[12:38] <Ayabara> Blissex, ok. right back :-)
[12:40] <Ayabara> Blissex, I got an error that "Server is already active for Display 0". What I tried was logging in and typing startx. The wrong command?
[12:40] <Blissex> Ayabara: yes. try 'startx -- :1'
[12:42] <Blissex> Ayabara: if you play around with both GNOME and KDE you can always use 'xinit' or 'xinit -- :1' and then type 'startkde' or 'gnome-session' in the resulting terminal window.
[12:42] <MGalaxy> Hi, I need a software to mount .ISO and .BIN images with "Automount After Restart" feature, any solution?
[12:42] <Blissex> Ayabara: BTW, you haven't yet said what you mean by "networking does not work"
[12:42] <Blissex> MGalaxy: yes.
[12:43] <ScottG> I would imagine internet connection, Blissex
[12:43] <janelle> how is everyone?
[12:43] <ScottG> hello janelle
[12:43] <jussi01> hi janelle
[12:43] <Blissex> ScottG: "internet connection" is almost as dumb as "networking does not work"...
[12:43] <Ayabara> Blissex, and now networking of course works fine :-)
[12:43] <etfb> Possible solution to the Firefox problems I was mentioning earlier!  http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/integrating_firefox_and_thunderbird_into_kde
[12:43] <ScottG> I'm well, you?
[12:43] <Blissex> Ayabara: good, good, good.
[12:43] <etfb> Firefox doesn't integrate well into Kubuntu.  The above link claims to fix many of the problems.  Yay!
[12:44] <ScottG> Blissex.. do you think calling someone dumb is constructive?
[12:44] <Ayabara> Blissex, I'm gonna reboot and see if it works on the first kde-start. thanks for educating
[12:44] <Ayabara> Blissex, because I didn't know what was not working, and now I hope I never find out.
[12:44] <MGalaxy> Blissex: what is it?
[12:44] <janelle> fixing to install and try kubuntu alternate cd
[12:44] <Blissex> Ayabara: the key to checking network connections is first to check with 'ping' first locally and then remotely...
[12:45] <Ayabara> Blissex, and the phrasing _was_ kinda dumb, so I'm not too offended ;-)
[12:45] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[12:45] <Ayabara> anyway. I'll reboot and take it from there.
[12:45] <ScottG> I think "internet connection" is accepted as a term meaning "connection to the public internet" but I'll drop it right there.
[12:46] <elvirolo> can one transfer mp3's to 5th gen Ipods using amarok under kubuntu ?
[12:46] <cptR3D> jussi01: u still here?
[12:46] <jussi01> cptR3D: yes
[12:47] <cptR3D> jussi01:  get my reply from earlier?
[12:47] <jussi01> cptR3D: nope
[12:48] <cptR3D> how can i pm u
[12:48] <jussi01> cptR3D: dont. Ask here
[12:49] <jussi01> just remember to use my name  in the question if you want to direct it at me
[12:50] <janelle> finding your specific distro can be hard!
[12:50] <cptR3D> jussi01: <cptR3D> jussi01: after restart I got a message to continue or choose something so I chose something and it gave me multipul choices or scan so i did scan and my screen fuzzed and came back and gave me the same options so i chose '0' (?? had no idea what to do) and it loaded fine but still froze when I opened the lid
[12:51] <janelle> does anyone know if installing distros is hard on your harddrive?
[12:51] <cptR3D> jussi01: <cptR3D> jussi01: after restart I got a message to continue or choose something so I chose something and it gave me multipul choices or scan so i did scan and my screen fuzzed and came back and gave me the same options so i chose '0' (?? had no idea what to do) and it loaded fine but still froze when I opened the lid
[12:51] <Eds> janelle, you mean does it hurt or overstress your hdd?
[12:51] <cptR3D> jussi01: damt mybad
[12:51] <janelle> eds yes
[12:51] <ScottG> !xubuntu
[12:51] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:52] <Eds> Janelle, you shouldnt have an issue, i have machines at work that get a fresh OS every 2 days :P they have been running fine for 3 years
[12:52] <ScottG> xubuntu is a lighter 'buntu version :)
[12:52] <ScottG> oh.. nm
[12:52] <ScottG> you mean repeatedly installing different distros..
[12:53] <janelle> im horrible with making choices because i feel the need to consider everything
[12:53] <cptR3D> jussi01: <cptR3D> jussi01:  upon restart I got the same option to chose or contine so i contued and it loaded just fine but it still froze when i oped the lid
[12:53] <cptR3D> jussi01: <cptR3D> how do I restore my backedup file?
[12:53] <jussi01> cptR3D: i got it... have patience..
[12:53] <ScottG> well.. not one particular distro will be perfect in every way.. you have to pick the one that fits best
[12:53] <Eds> janelle, I know your pain, im still working out what to use, Kubuntu, OpenSuSE or PCLinux
[12:54] <ScottG> Eds: Same here.. I'm dual booting PCLOS and Kubuntu..
[12:54] <cptR3D> jussi01: okay sry
[12:54] <janelle> for me its mandriva pclos and now kubuntu
[12:54] <Eds> ScottG, how do you find PCLOS?
[12:54] <jussi01> cptR3D: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:54] <Eds> janelle, I had too many warnings about mandriva :P
[12:55] <janelle> 2008's been real nice so far
[12:55] <jussi01> !ot
[12:55] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:55] <ScottG> I've been using PCLOS for two years exclusively and have been very loyal but I don't know if a slow "rolling" release cycle is what I want..
[12:55] <janelle> same here
[12:55] <ScottG> sorry juss101
[12:55] <jussi01> :)
[12:55] <Ayabara> Blissex: knetwork-manager says "no active device". then I started a gnome-session with networking. then the kde session detected something and asked me for the wep-key.
[12:56] <raymears> hello, everyone. i have a slight problemo over here. i installed ubuntu on my machine (kubuntu wouldn't install), then used apt-get install kubuntu-something to install kubuntu, then removed gnome with sudo apt-get remove gnome-* and apt-get remove gdm.
[12:56] <ScottG> raymears: and?
[12:56] <raymears> no i have no sound, cannot shutdown the computer (it freezes) and most of the services are shown as not running
[12:57] <janelle> how has gutsy been quality wise scottg and eds
[12:57] <Blissex> Ayabara: you should have said instead of "networking does not work" that you had WiFi access to your LAN. *which* networking does not work matters a great deal.
[12:57] <raymears> amarok does not start, even killall only works from time to time
[12:57] <Eds> janelle, jump over to the #kubuntu-offtopic channel :P
[12:57] <janelle> okie dokie
[12:57] <raymears> mostly it does not work, though
[12:57] <Blissex> Ayabara: in theory your Kubuntu should activate the WiFi interface before starting the GUI.
[12:57] <Ayabara> Blissex: only problem is that I did not know what the problem was at the time
[12:57] <Ayabara> ok
[12:58] <ScottG> janelle, join #kubuntu-offtopic Eds and I are talking there
[12:58] <raymears> basically my computer is unusable. any suggestions?
[12:58] <Blissex> Ayabara: so you should use the Ubuntu network manager to ensure that the WiFi comes up at boot regardless. As to the WiFi key/passphrase you will have to put it into some kind of file.
[12:59] <Blissex> raymears: sounds like hw problems.
[12:59] <raymears> nope.
[12:59] <raymears> gnome worked like a charm
[12:59] <Ayabara> Blissex: the wep is entered, so that works. I think I'm ok for now
[12:59] <Blissex> raymears: BTW, removing all of GNOME is not a good idea, because some Ubuntu GUI configuration apps are GNOME only.
[13:00] <Ayabara> how do I disable touchpad tapping in kubuntu?
[13:00] <raymears> i was just reconsidering installing gnome again via apt-get install gnome-desktop
[13:00] <uzz> русские есть?)
[13:01] <zerlord^> hello @ all
[13:01] <zerlord^> i have a problem with my kubuntu... i wanna install dual screen with nvidia
[13:01] <zerlord^> i have 2 nvidia 7900gtx
[13:02] <jussi01> !dualhead | zerlord^
[13:02] <ubotu> zerlord^: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[13:02] <ScottG> Ayabara: I've always used qsynaptics to change that setting
[13:02] <jussi01> !xinerama > zerlord^
[13:07] <Blissex> raymears: reinztalling GNOME might me a good idea. Then use Aptitude or Synaptics to remove the less useful bits, like the front-end gui elements.
[13:07] <Ayabara> holy crap, ktorrent is faster than the last time I used it :-D
[13:11] <antonio_> hola
[13:11] <jussi01> !es | antonio_
[13:11] <ubotu> antonio_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:12] <antonio_> come va ?
[13:12] <Ayabara> I thing the fonts in my kubuntu seem a bit big, and I use the default font at size 8 on a laptop with 1440x900. Do you guys use the force dpi-setting?
[13:14] <cptR3D> jussi01: did that help for anything?
[13:14] <antonio_> ho un problema con kppp chi mi aiuta ?
[13:16] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[13:16] <khelll> how shall i know the running services ?
[13:16] <Drk_Guy> I'm having a hard time with Compiz
[13:16] <Drk_Guy> Can anyone help?
[13:16] <ScottG> Control Escape
[13:17] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[13:18] <Drk_Guy> Why the community documentation doesn't work
[13:18] <Drk_Guy> I.E. It is not going good
[13:18] <jpatrick> Drk_Guy: might be out-dated
[13:18] <nuxil> so fix it ;p
[13:18] <JayC> Can someone assist me, I'm trying to batch convert a lot of files in Mplayer and was wondering how i can  something like %n or w/e to set the input filename as the output filename, Any ideas?
[13:20] <Drk_Guy> Got it
[13:21] <Drk_Guy> I just mispelled something at install moment
[13:21] <jpatrick> :)
[13:22] <Ayabara> anyone use the force dpi setting?
[13:23] <matteo_2504> kde4 is include in kubuntu 8.04?
[13:23] <nuxil> 8.04?
[13:23] <jussi01>   !hardy | nuxil
[13:23] <ubotu> nuxil: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:23] <jussi01> !hardy | nuxil
[13:23] <matteo_2504> kubuntu hadry heron
[13:24] <nuxil> hey
[13:24] <jussi01> matteo_2504: IIRC, yes
[13:26] <antonio_> nuxil?
[13:26] <matteo_2504> but i look screenshot in www.kubuntu.com
[13:26] <nuxil> antonio_ yes?
[13:27] <matteo_2504> not same with my kubuntu
[13:27] <nuxil> !kickoff
[13:27] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[13:28] <nuxil> has anyone made a deb pak of kickoff for gutsy ?
[13:28] <pag> nuxil, kickoff = that Suse's menu?
[13:29] <jussi01> pag: read back just a little ;)
[13:29] <nuxil> pag, nop
[13:29] <matteo_2504> that kde menu not include in hadry?
[13:29] <nuxil> pag, i had it in feisty.
[13:29] <pag> jussi01, oh.. /me headdesks :)
[13:30] <jussi01> matteo_2504: please direct hardy questions to #ubuntu+1
[13:30] <jussi01> pag: :)
[13:32] <Drk_Guy> Dwah men
[13:33] <Drk_Guy> Why Compiz cant integrate well into kde?
[13:33] <Drk_Guy> What's the big idea'
[13:33] <antonio_>  e che stress
[13:34] <tommymetal> hi
[13:34] <tommymetal> fuck all
[13:34] <jussi01> !language | tommymetal
[13:34] <ubotu> tommymetal: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:36] <emilsedgh> mad people!
[13:38] <astan> hrm. i can't choose "WPA Enterprise" in knetworkmanager, it's not there in the list.. do i need to install something special?
[13:38] <astan> only WPA Personal is there.
[13:40] <Lynoure> astan: You are actually using WPA enterprise, with radius server?
[13:41] <gino> ññ
[13:41] <Lynoure> Just asking because many people try to choose it because it sounds better, despite them not having the setup for it in their network.
[13:41] <jpatrick> !es > gino
[13:41] <astan> Lynoure: yea i think so, it's a FON router, i think it uses a radius server.. i'm not 100% though, it's just that WPA Personal didn't work.
[13:42] <astan> Lynoure: and i remember seeing the WPA Enterprise option there before (think it was when i was running feisty), but now it's not there.
[13:42] <Lynoure> astan: FON router, at least the little white ones you get from them, do not do radius
[13:43] <noaXess> how to search for a package that should contain a spec. library?
[13:43] <noaXess> need libmp3lame.so.0 and whant to know which package i need to install.
[13:44] <jussi01> !find libmp3lame.so
[13:44] <ubotu> File libmp3lame.so found in liblame-dev
[13:44] <jussi01> noaXess: ^^
[13:44] <noaXess> jussi01: aha okay.. :) thanks
[13:44] <jussi01> :)
[13:44] <astan> Lynoure: hm. okay. they run a radius server at their end though, but maybe that's not the same thing.
[13:45] <astan> Lynoure: i wonder why i can't connect to the FONs WPA network then.. hrm..
[13:45] <Lynoure> astan: I don't think they do... unless they changed things wildly since I got my La Fonera
[13:45] <Lynoure> astan: the public wlan has authentication at their servers, but then again, no WPA
[13:46] <astan> Lynoure: ah okay.. i just saw that http://stefans.datenbruch.de/lafonera/ was talking about some radius server at FON..
[13:46] <matteo_2504> how to make a cd repository?
[13:46] <astan> hm. need to figure out how to get it working with WPA Personal then..
[13:47] <jussi01> !aptoncd | matteo_2504
[13:47] <ubotu> matteo_2504: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[13:49] <matteo_2504> if i update, where folder updated file?
[13:49] <noaXess> a little problem.. i have installed the restricted river for my nvidia.. now i can't set the whole system font to eg. size 8.. each kde app has now it's own font size. any idea?
[13:50] <astan> i thinks this might be the problem; Dec 30 14:48:00 pyret NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_dbus_get_user_key_for_network_cb(): nm_dbus_get_user_key_for_network_cb(): dbus returned an error.   (org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.GetKeyError) org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.GetKeyError
[13:50] <astan> not sure what it means though, or how to fix it.
[13:51] <OsamaK> Hello! Is KUbuntu same of Ubuntu? I mean the only different between them is KDE desktop, no?
[13:52] <Blissex> OsamaK: yes.
[13:52]  * noaXess is away: Gone away for now.
[13:53] <OsamaK> Blissex: I use Ubuntu now, which is better, download KDE then install it or download KUbuntu?
[13:53] <jpatrick> !away > noaXess
[13:53] <Blissex> OsamaK: probably it is rather quicker to start with the Kubuntu disk. GNOME is not small...
[13:53]  * noaXess is back.
[13:53] <Lynoure> astan: did you browse your network from knetworkmanager, or did you input it manually? (for some reason latter often works better)
[13:53] <noaXess> jpatrick: okay.. sorry..
[13:54] <OsamaK> Blissex: Is there a tornrt link?
[13:54] <jpatrick> noaXess: no problem
[13:54] <astan> Lynoure: i browsed it.. but from what i can tell from syslog output, it seems to find the network just fine, just can't connect. i'll try manually too.
[13:55] <romunov> what program can manage my bookmarks, addresses, emails... and backs them up?
[13:57] <Blissex> OsamaK: sure, there are several Ubuntu/Kubuntu torrents.
[13:57] <Lynoure> astan: try the other way anyway, does not take much time.
[13:57] <OsamaK> Blowfish: could you give it to me?
[13:59] <astan> Lynoure: hm. no difference it seems. this is the relevant part of my syslog output during the connection attempt; http://franzkafe.se/log.txt .. no idea what's going wrong :/
[14:00] <astan> (disregard the failed connection attempts from synergyc in that log, they're not related).
[14:01] <downix> man, when did Enlightenment become the zippy WM?!?
[14:02] <noaXess> jpatrick: yeah.. about my problem after installing the restricted nvidia driver.. the system font i set, will not used on kde apps.. if i set the whole system font to size 9 it won't work also an gtk apps..
[14:02] <noaXess> i have the setting use kde font for gtk apps
[14:02] <jpatrick> noaXess: I'm sorry, but I have an ATI card, no experience with the NVidia
[14:03] <downix> how come everyone limits themselves to nVidia/ATI when there are other GPU companies out there, some with more open-source friendliness?
[14:03] <OsamaK> Blissex: Any ideas?
[14:03] <OsamaK> Let me start downloading ;)
[14:04] <Ayabara> I'm on an asus laptop. the fn-keys (volume, brightness ++) works fine in ubuntu, but not in kubuntu.
[14:04] <llutz> downix: most guys want 3d-support for games, so there's no choice
[14:04] <noaXess> downix: on a laptop normaly there is only nvidia or ati :)
[14:04] <llutz> noaXess: intel
[14:05] <noaXess> Ayabara: me too.. have also a asus vx2 laptop and i'm on kubuntu..
[14:05] <downix> noaXess: Mine has Intel, does a good job even under 3D games
[14:05] <Ayabara> noaXess: have you done research an given up on it?
[14:05] <downix> llutz: XGI offers full 3D under Linux, as does ST Micro
[14:05] <jussi01> !ot | downix
[14:06] <ubotu> downix: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[14:06] <Blissex> jussi01: I think that is mostly ontopic.
[14:06] <OsamaK> !ot | OsamaK
[14:07] <Blissex> Ayabara: apparently Kubuntu is done by a single guy and is not quite as custom-configured as Ubuntu...
[14:07] <noaXess> Ayabara: haven't research jet.. cause i do brightness change over the power management tool..
[14:07] <llutz> downix: i haven't seen cards from them for ages, not very common in EU it seems
[14:07] <Ayabara> Blissex: now that sounds scary...
[14:08] <senorpedro> hi folks
[14:08] <Blissex> Ayabara: no, it just means it is quite as polished. But lots of people use Kubuntu and there is quite a large community.
[14:08] <noaXess> downix: what brand of notebook do you have?
[14:08] <noaXess> Ayabara: i think there is any tool to install, that it work..
[14:09] <senorpedro> i installed ubuntu-desktop but now i want to remove it, but when doing apititude purge ubuntu-desktop it only removes the metapackage ubuntu-desktop and not all the other with ubuntu-desktop installed packages. how can i cleanly remove all packages that have come with ubuntu-desktop?
[14:09] <OsamaK> Hello all! Is there a tornet link for KUbuntu? if yes, please give to me..
[14:09] <Ayabara> noaXess: sry, I didn't understand that. you meant I can install a package that will make it work?
[14:09] <jussi01> senorpedro: you are wishing to have kde only?
[14:09] <jussi01> !purekde | senorpedro
[14:09] <ubotu> senorpedro: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[14:10] <noaXess> Ayabara: i think there is a package.. but in the moment i don't know which one..
[14:11] <Ayabara> noaXess: ok.
[14:11] <jussi01> OsamaK: are you after the cd or dvd?
[14:11] <noaXess> Ayabara: what asus nb do you have?
[14:12] <jussi01> OsamaK: the dvd torrent is here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/
[14:12] <downix> llutz: That I can see from ST Micro (they focus on US and Asia) but XGI's always been popular in eastern europe.. no idea tho *shrug*
[14:13] <Ayabara> noaXess: the F3SC
[14:13] <Blissex> here in the UK I doubt one can buy wither ST or XGI cards. But it would be interesting to know, looking.
[14:14] <shampoonator> hi thee, i got a littel problem: i got a ati raedon 9800 pro (ok thats the problem) and i want want to run the flglx drivers.. somehow that wont work like i want :(
[14:14] <llutz> downix: anyway, i don't think the are real alternatives for gamers to play actual games today
[14:14] <shampoonator> im using gutsy
[14:15] <shampoonator> o tried installing flglx and modiefied my xorg.conf (the right way i thought) but still no 3d acceleration
[14:15] <shampoonator> any  ideas (except buyin nvidia cards)
[14:15] <jussi01> shampoonator: did you try using the restricted driver mamager?
[14:15] <shampoonator> yes
[14:15] <shampoonator> i did
[14:16] <jussi01> !ati
[14:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:16] <OsamaK> jussi01: What's the diff?
[14:17] <jussi01> OsamaK: the dvd has more stuff on it. OsamaK if you have the oportunity then I recomend the dvd
[14:17] <OsamaK> yes, I have
[14:17] <OsamaK> How big does it? jussi01?
[14:18] <jussi01> OsamaK: Im not certain, i would imagine 3-4 gig, but I dont know for sure...
[14:18] <OsamaK> OMG :D
[14:18] <OsamaK> Very big :S
[14:19] <jussi01> OsamaK: 4.28 gb
[14:19] <OsamaK> :S:S:S
[14:19] <Ayabara> anyone been debugging not-working media keys on other laptops in kubuntu?
[14:20] <jussi01> OsamaK: 1 moment Ill find the cd torrent.
[14:21] <jussi01> OsamaK: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[14:21] <Lynoure> astan: (Sorry, I was away doing some work, looking at thet log now)
[14:22] <cef> so, who do I shoot for the fact that the nvidia binary modules in the gutsy livecd are missing?
[14:22] <astan> Lynoure: thanks.. i did some googling and found some bug reports with similar logs here and there.. :/
[14:22] <astan> similar but not identical.
[14:23] <Lynoure> astan: this is probably not the cause, but do you have your wireless (eth1) in /etc/network/interfaces ?  It often confuses networkmanager
[14:23] <OsamaK> jussi01: Is Alternate install CD the best for me?
[14:24] <OsamaK> jussi01: Before I leave, Thank you a lot for your helping ;)
[14:24] <jussi01> OsamaK: either is fine
[14:25] <cef> can someone confirm oi I grab the gutsy kubuntu alternative CD that once I install that the nvidia driver will actually be there and usable?
[14:25] <cef> err oi = if
[14:26] <astan> Lynoure: nope. i did that mistake a while ago, that prevents nm from configuring the device at all, so it's not in my /etc/network/interfaces at all now :(
[14:27] <jussi01> cef: no, it will attempt to download it iirc.
[14:27] <cef> jussi01: yeah but alternate doesn't need a gui, right?
[14:27] <Lynoure> astan: are you on gutsy?
[14:27] <jussi01> cef: correct. it uses ncurses iirc.
[14:27] <cef> jussi01: cos my nvidia card isn't supported by the free driver (well, most likely it's just the PCI ID's)
[14:27]  * OsamaK is going
[14:27] <astan> Lynoure: yea.
[14:28] <jussi01> OsamaK: bye and good luck
[14:28] <astan> Lynoure: the line "Dec 30 14:55:46 pyret NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth1/wireless): disconnected during association, asking for new key." in the log is what pops up right when the connection fails, too bad it doesn't say more than that..
[14:28] <Lynoure> astan: because the disconnects seem a bit on what I had on feisty, but for me that got fixed on gutsy. Foneras are not the easiest APs to get along, as the switch essids...
[14:28] <cef> jussi01: which makes installing it using the livecd impossible.... *sigh*.. ok.. time to download the alternate cd
[14:29] <astan> Lynoure: yea. hm. i can connect to the unencrypted network on the FON just fine.
[14:29] <astan> Lynoure: what wifi NIC do you have? i have a ipw3945.
[14:31] <astan> i'm going to buy a real AP for this house, it's just that now the FON is all i have. at work i have a linksys wrt54gl that works perfect.
[14:31] <slow-motion> re
[14:31] <MGalaxy> how can I remove a package manually?
[14:32] <llutz> astan: wrt54gl + tomato-firmware rulez :)
[14:32] <unimimotus> * mon bot te fait remarquer que je suis absent pour le moment...
[14:33] <astan> llutz: yea, been running it at my café for the last 9 months without any problems.
[14:33] <jpatrick> !fr | unimimotus
[14:33] <ubotu> unimimotus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:33] <voonte> cef: I just installed Kubuntu using the minimal cd. Worked great with an ncurses interface
[14:33]  * astan gives up on connecting with WPA2 to his FON for now..
[14:34] <Lynoure> astan: I have  Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751M
[14:34] <Lynoure> astan: oops, brainjam..
[14:35] <Lynoure> astan: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[14:35] <astan> Lynoure: okay. i have Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[14:35] <cef> voonte: yeah grabbing it now..
[14:35] <astan> they're probably a little more finicky than the 2200BG..
[14:36] <cef> 2200's have a free driver, while the 3945's don't have one as yet afaik
[14:36] <astan> yea.. i think i use something from restricted repos..
[14:37] <cef> I've got one in a laptop somewhere.. and yeah.. uses the binary driver.. they seem to work well for me though
[14:37] <Lynoure> astan: non-automatic for aes/tkip choice can possibly help
[14:39] <astan> Lynoure: i tried that, the log i gave was from when i manually chose tkip :/
[14:40] <astan> oh well. i'll just sit here wired then.
[14:41] <Ayabara> is there a config file where I can tell kubuntu what laptop-keyboard I have, and fn-keys will magically work?
[14:43] <Lynoure> Ayabara: there is the keyboard layout / keyboard model under Settings -> Regional  but no magic promised
[14:45] <Ayabara> Lynoure: couldn't find anything about "asus keyboard" there. is there a way to find my keyboard id?
[14:46] <Lynoure> Ayabara: I'd recommend wild experimentation
[14:46] <Tucci> can someone help me fix my internet connection? I accidentally changed a setting and now I need to fix it back.
[14:46] <Lynoure> Ayabara: if none work, there are more labour intensive things you can try.
[14:47] <Ayabara> Lynoure: ok :-)
[14:48] <downix> ok, checked, ST stopped their license of PVR a few years back.  So now you can only get the PVR as embedded, my bad.  (I've worked with SoC's too long)
[14:48] <marius__> hi to all
[14:48] <marius__> i'm a beginer
[14:49] <downix> hey marius__!  How may we help you today?
[14:49] <marius__> and i have a few questions
[14:49] <marius__> aaa
[14:50] <marius__> is there a music player like winamp for my kubuntu?
[14:50] <david__> xmms is a clone of winamp
[14:50] <david__> or beeb/beep/beem soemthing
[14:50] <marius__> aha
[14:50] <david__> though Amarok is so much better in every way
[14:51] <david__> (In my opinion)
[14:51] <MGalaxy> how can I remove a package manually?
[14:51] <rothchild> marius__ amarok is much better
[14:51] <david__> MGalaxy: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[14:51] <Yiihaaa> hi everyone, my first time here. I wanted to try out the kubuntu live cd, but i encountered a problem. I booted it up without any problems the first time. but after a reboot on my system i cannot get it to start again. I am stuck with a line that sais "(initramfs)_" anyone have any idea what my problem is.. it worked once..
[14:51] <marius__> rbut i wont to load all the music from my hard in the plaulist
[14:51] <marius__> rbut i wont to load all the music from my hard in the playlist
[14:52] <marius__> hpw can i do that
[14:52] <MGalaxy> david__: it fails
[14:52] <marius__> how can i do that
[14:53] <marius__> rothchild
[14:54] <marius__> can u tell me how can i load all my music in the playlist
[14:54] <marius__> in amarok
[14:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy all  :-)
[14:55] <David_Edmundson> marius__: you don't
[14:55] <David_Edmundson> marius__: you add it to your "collection"
[14:55] <marius__> ???
[14:55] <MGalaxy> David_Edmundson: http://phpfi.com/286095
[14:55] <marius__> why
[14:55] <marius__> aaa
[14:55] <David_Edmundson> when it's in your collection
[14:56] <David_Edmundson> you can then say start a dynamic playlist of tracks randomly
[14:56] <David_Edmundson> ooh MGalaxy there is a script that runs on un-install, this is failing you should file a bug
[14:56] <David_Edmundson> if you run dpkg --help it will show to force it remove it
[14:57] <MGalaxy> David_Edmundson: it failed, too.
[14:57] <MGalaxy> David_Edmundson: how can I remove it from apt-get package list
[15:00] <Tucci> if i reinstall the network settings program, will it redetect my wireless connection just like when I first installed kubuntu?
[15:00] <EightiesK> anyone know how i can get wireless back on my ps3?
[15:01] <rothchild> marius__ have you got your head round it now?
[15:01] <tzd99> EightiesK:  think so?
[15:01] <tzd99> EightiesK: what have you done recently to "disable" the wireless mode?
[15:02] <EightiesK> well i updated my firmware last week.
[15:02] <tzd99> EightiesK:  to 2.10 ?
[15:02] <EightiesK> 2.80
[15:02] <EightiesK> i think.
[15:03] <tzd99> EightiesK: 2.10 if it's ps3...
[15:03] <EightiesK> might have been.
[15:03] <tzd99> EightiesK: and the wireless worked perfectly until you've updated fw?
[15:03] <EightiesK> yes
[15:03] <EightiesK> infact ....
[15:03] <EightiesK> the wired is taking a shit too.
[15:03] <EightiesK> sorry
[15:04] <EightiesK> didn't mean to curse.
[15:04] <tzd99> EightiesK: ah ok... have you tried your router (if you have one) with other equipment?
[15:06] <tzd99> I'm looking for a bluetooth hunter that knows how on earth I can get my plantronics M3000 BT headset to work with skype v1.4.0.118 please?
[15:07] <EightiesK> tzd99 ya i tryed it to no progress
[15:08] <tzd99> EightiesK: hmm ok.. so the issue remains even when you're using computers etc. ?
[15:08] <EightiesK> no just my ps3
[15:08] <tzd99> EightiesK:  ok. You have checked the ps3 network settings?
[15:09] <EightiesK> yup.
[15:10] <EightiesK> my PS3 its self has wireless just not my kubuntu.
[15:10] <David_Edmundson> MGalaxy: you want to use "sudo dpkg -r --force all PackageName"
[15:10] <BluesKaj> EightiesK:  so your eth0 KnetworkManager shows you connected to the router ?
[15:10] <voonte> I'd like to help Kubuntu testing KDE4 and possibly write some applications. Should I use the Hardy alpha?
[15:11] <MGalaxy> David_Edmundson: the same Error Message
[15:11] <voonte> I noticed libs like soprano (1.99-rc2) only are available for hardy
[15:11] <David_Edmundson> even with --force all?
[15:11] <EightiesK> let me check.
[15:11] <tzd99> EightiesK: beats me then I'm afraid :/ How did you know it was a network failure if i may ask? I've got wireless as well on my ps3 and it's usually slower than my cable connection. Compared to the connected computers my ps3 is slow
[15:11] <David_Edmundson> voonte: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[15:13] <voonte> David_Edmundson: Those are precompiled packages though. I'm running the trunk version along side the release candidate
[15:13] <David_Edmundson> ah, okies. I only run one or two parts out of trunk and that's fine
[15:14] <voonte> hm ok. I'm quite new to *buntu still, but will it create lots of problems if I install a hardy package in a gutsy installation?
[15:15] <David_Edmundson> not if it's just a few
[15:15] <voonte> I'll give it a try. thanks
[15:18] <BluesKaj> brb, pidgin is ok but the font won't change...too small for these old eyes . Back to konversation !
[15:19] <mauri> someone tell me please a mp3 player a part amarok and XMMS
[15:20] <hydrogen> !mp3 | mauri
[15:20] <ubotu> mauri: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:20] <hydrogen> err
[15:20] <hydrogen> nope
[15:20] <hydrogen> !amarok | mauri
[15:20] <ubotu> mauri: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.7 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[15:20] <hydrogen> theres a factoid
[15:20] <hydrogen> grr
[15:20] <hydrogen> !players | mauri
[15:20] <ubotu> mauri: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[15:20] <hydrogen> there we go
[15:21] <OsamaK> jussi01: Is Ubunut's logos under GPL?
[15:22] <Tm_T> OsamaK: AFAIK no
[15:22] <OsamaK> Tm_T: OK, thanks!
[15:23] <OsamaK> Tm_T: Backgrounds?
[15:23] <Tm_T> OsamaK: for those, I don't know, if you find suorces?
[15:25] <Fyl0n> who can use/control KDE when ETQW is windowed playing?
[15:25] <Fyl0n> or how to control/switch back to KDE when ETQW is running..
[15:26] <Fyl0n> does some one know this issue?
[15:26] <Blissex> Fyl0n: enter console with with back-quote
[15:26] <Fyl0n> windows does this fine.. but how to n KDE?
[15:26] <Fyl0n> ~
[15:26] <Fyl0n> that trick is for windows.. not KDE
[15:27] <pag> OsamaK, copyright file of kubuntu-default-settings indicates, taht Kubuntu wallpaper is under GNU GPL ( see: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-28/kubuntu-default-settings.copyright )
[15:27] <Fyl0n> I've got ETQW running on Kubuntu wich runs faster than windows lol :)
[15:27] <Fyl0n> But the desktop control is totally gone.
[15:30] <Fyl0n> I use skype for example and once the game started.. I cannot switch back to desktop to control my skype..
[15:30] <Fyl0n> even windowed.. I cannot control desktop. even with windowed and ~ console open...
[15:30] <Fyl0n> My question really is... can it be done?
[15:31] <Fyl0n> or how can I get etqw down so that I could control my desktop again..?
[15:31] <OsamaK> pag: thanks!
[15:32] <mauri> thanks
[15:35] <macke_> Is there any special trick to get a Audigy4 Sound card to work in Kubuntu 7.10?
[15:36] <antonio_> ciao
[15:36] <macke_> Heya
[15:37] <Jeroi> macke_ have you checked alsamixer?
[15:37] <mauri> someone had tied kubuntu 8.4
[15:37] <mauri> someone had tied kubuntu 8.04?
[15:37] <Jeroi> oh yeah your soundsystem is muted totally?
[15:37] <Jeroi> !hardy
[15:37] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:38] <macke_> Jeroi: Alsamixer says its using my built in sound card, can i change that?
[15:38] <Jeroi> macke_ your first thing: disabel onboard sound from bioss
[15:38] <Jeroi> then install linux
[15:39] <Jeroi> but you have done it already
[15:39] <Jeroi> maybe
[15:39] <Jeroi> try kmix
[15:39] <antonio_> kfjdsjg
[15:39] <Jeroi> k-menu->multimedia
[15:39] <macke_> kmix, is using Audigy 4
[15:39] <Jeroi> change your mixer
[15:39] <Jeroi> ok
[15:40] <Jeroi> you need to change alsamixer using audigy also
[15:40] <macke_> How do i do that?
[15:41] <Jeroi> !alsa
[15:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:42] <Jeroi> !audigy
[15:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audigy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:44] <Jeroi> edit alsaconf
[15:44] <Jeroi> I veliev
[15:46] <macke_> I altered the sound card in System settings > Sound System, Now its restarting my sound card
[15:46] <macke_> Have reached 100% like 5 times now
[15:46] <Jeroi> does it work?
[15:47] <Jeroi> type into console: alsaconf
[15:47] <macke_> Nope, its restarting
[15:47] <Jeroi> run it
[15:47] <macke_> command not found
[15:47] <flaccid> i've never heard of alsaconf
[15:47] <flaccid> try testing with aplay first
[15:47] <jnp3134> macke_: do you have an Audigy4 Pro or non-Pro?
[15:47] <tzd99> need help with my BT headset please (using kubuntu gutsy gibbon)
[15:48] <flaccid> macke_: you can also try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[15:49] <Jeroi> root@Jeroi:~/.kde/share/config# apt-cache search alsa conf
[15:49] <Jeroi> alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files
[15:49] <Jeroi> libasound2-plugins - ALSA library additional plugins
[15:49] <Jeroi> alsa-utils - ALSA utilities
[15:49] <Jeroi> alsa-tools-gui - GUI based ALSA utilities for specific hardware
[15:49] <Jeroi> asoundconf-gtk - Applet to select the default ALSA sound card
[15:50] <macke_> It is not a PRO its normal audigy 4
[15:50] <flaccid> that is just a keyword search for alsa + conf ..
[15:50] <Jeroi> yes
[15:50] <flaccid> so how does it help
[15:50] <Jeroi> but did give quite good results?
[15:51] <Jeroi> asoundconf-gtk - Applet to select the default ALSA sound card
[15:51] <Jeroi> isint that just what hes looking for?
[15:51] <flaccid> providing two search keywords isn't really going to help
[15:51] <jnp3134> macke:Go to K Menu>System>Konsole and type "asoundconf list".  Does it show your Audigy4 card?
[15:51] <flaccid> asoundconf-gtk is not a part of kubuntu Jeroi
[15:52] <macke_> Command not found
[15:52] <Jeroi> yes
[15:52] <Jeroi> alsaconf is that blue configuration script
[15:52] <macke_> If i go into "alsamixer" and press F2 i can see my audigy card there, but i have no idea how i choose it
[15:53] <Jeroi> I used it when I was using edgy
[15:53] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /.asoundrc
[15:53] <flaccid> macke_: did you try aplay yet, for example aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[15:53] <macke_> flaccid: No sound there
[15:53] <flaccid> macke_: what does the command return
[15:54] <macke_> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[15:54] <flaccid> ok but no error?
[15:54] <macke_> Nope
[15:54] <flaccid> macke_: run the command alsamixer and ensure the required channels are not muted and are turned up also check kmix
[15:55] <juluss> hello, i'm french, so excuse for my english
[15:55] <Jeroi> flaccid hes problemn is that alsamixer uses onboard chip
[15:55] <flaccid> Jeroi: why is that a problem?
[15:55] <Jeroi> he wants to change alsamixer to use audigy 4
[15:55] <macke_> Yes :)
[15:55] <juluss> i've just bought a lenovo N200, and i have no sound
[15:55] <flaccid> lets see if it already is. macke_ does it list details at top left in alsamixer?
[15:55] <juluss> can you help me ? sound card is hda intel, ich8
[15:56] <macke_> it says Realtek ALC883
[15:56] <juluss> realteck 861VD
[15:56] <BluesKaj> juluss, would you rather join a francais chat ?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> kdesu kate /.asoundrc
[15:56] <juluss> BluesKaj: no, yesterday they can't help me...
[15:56] <jnp3134> macke_: I didn't have much luck with this, but you could try installing the default sound card selector utility.  Go to K Menu>Add/Remove Programs and search for "default sound card"
[15:56] <juluss> today, i try english
[15:56] <tzd> wouldnt it work if you downloaded the drivers from: www.realtek.com.tw ?
[15:57] <juluss> tzd: no
[15:57] <tzd> juluss:  ok
[15:57] <juluss> my sound card is realtek 861VD
[15:57] <Jeroi> chip that is
[15:57] <juluss> so i try with driver on realtek.com.tw
[15:57] <flaccid> macke_: so you have a audigy and want to swap it?
[15:57] <Jeroi> your sound chip
[15:57] <Jeroi> flaccid yes he does
[15:58] <Jeroi> thtas hes problem
[15:58] <BluesKaj> juluss,in the konsole :  asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[15:58] <macke_> flaccid: I have Audigy 4 and i want to use it as default
[15:58] <flaccid> Jeroi: and what is the solution Jeroi?
[15:58] <juluss> BluesKaj: ok i try
[15:58] <Jeroi> I dont know
[15:58] <Jeroi> maybe editint asoundconf
[15:58] <tzd> BluesKaj:  you've got blue in your nick... does that mean you are good with bluetooth settings?? :)
[15:58] <flaccid> macke_: do as BluesKaj suggested. check the soundcard name in asoundconf list
[15:58] <shampoonator> flglxstill not working.. tried everything :(
[15:59] <Jeroi> I dont have that file tho
[15:59] <BluesKaj> nope, I'm a drummer in a blues-rock band :)
[15:59] <flaccid> asoundconf is a binary
[15:59] <Jeroi> when I tested that
[15:59] <tzd> ^^ worth a shot ;)
[15:59] <shampoonator> the funny thing is that flglx is in my xorg.conf now and the X is runniung.. but glxinfo just throws out the mesa driver :(
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yup tzd :)
[15:59] <macke_> Dont have asoundconf
[15:59] <flaccid> macke_: ubuntu release?
[16:00] <macke_> flaccid: Kubuntu 7.10
[16:00] <tzd> anyone else here that perhaps uses their Bluetooth headset with skype or something else and can explain 1 minor detail please?
[16:00] <flaccid> what does the command which asoundconf return?
[16:00] <Jeroi> yes
[16:00] <shampoonator> anyone got a raedon 9800 pro running under kubuntu?
[16:00] <juan> how do you disable shadow on menus?
[16:00] <macke_> flaccid: if i start alsamixer and press F2 i can see my audigy card there
[16:00] <juluss> BluesKaj: what's the name of sound card in your command ?
[16:01] <Jeroi> macke_ type: asoundconf
[16:01] <juluss> snd-hda-intel or 861VD ??
[16:01] <BluesKaj> shampoonator, you running the ATI proprietary driver or the default restricted
[16:01] <macke_> Jeroi: Yeah?
[16:01] <Jeroi> what did it give?
[16:01] <shampoonator> tried both.. both doesnt work :(
[16:01] <Jeroi> some commands and help?
[16:01] <flaccid> how did that command go macke_
[16:02] <juan> how do you disable shadow on menus? the kde setting is messing with compiz
[16:02] <flaccid> !info alsa-utils
[16:02] <ubotu> alsa-utils: ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.14-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1026 kB, installed size 1828 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[16:02] <macke_> 2 Sound cards, NVidia and Audigy
[16:02] <juan> !bpm
[16:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:02] <BluesKaj> juluss,to find the name of you audio card:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:02] <flaccid> macke_: now set the card as per the command BluesKaj advised using the name of the audigy card given
[16:02] <BluesKaj> your
[16:02] <Jeroi> macke type: asoundconf list
[16:02] <Jeroi> then it lists your audio chips
[16:03] <macke_> Jeroi: Yeah i did that, got two cards
[16:03] <shampoonator>  i tried running the restricted drivers => no 3d  i tried installing the ati driver from their webpage => no 3d.. after that i tried the radeon drivers => no 3d
[16:03] <Jeroi> asoundconf set-default-card PARAMETER
[16:03] <shampoonator> once uppon a time.... i had 3d
[16:03] <shampoonator> and it was simple *sigh
[16:03] <jnp3134> macke_: you can get asoundconf by going to K Menu>System>Adept Manager.  Search for "alsa-utils" and install it (if it isn't already installed
[16:04] <flaccid> jnp3134: its installed by default and asoundconf is working
[16:04] <flaccid> macke_: so asoundconf set-default-card audigy
[16:04] <macke_> YAY!
[16:04] <Jeroi> works?
[16:04] <flaccid> you got that now?
[16:05] <macke_> Aye, aplay works but not Amarok
[16:05] <flaccid> restart amarok and make sure the right device is selected in its config
[16:05] <Jeroi> edit amarok preferences
[16:05] <BluesKaj> shampoonator, in order to revert to the default restricted driver , (that's my reommendation) you have to make tsure the otherproprietary driver isn't loading , the only way is to uninstall it
[16:06] <Xplicit> always test sound with speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav
[16:06] <shampoonator> mmh
[16:06] <flaccid> shampoonator: use restricted-manager-kde
[16:06] <shampoonator> flaccid:  i did.. didnt work
[16:06] <flaccid> !doesntwork | shampoonator
[16:06] <ubotu> shampoonator: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[16:06] <macke_> Yeah, Amarok worked after restart
[16:06] <shampoonator> it does not work => i have no 3d acceleration
[16:07] <flaccid> what type of 3d acceleration
[16:07] <shampoonator> i disabled aiglx in xorg.conf and composit thingi
[16:07] <shampoonator> glxinfo type :D
[16:07] <Xplicit> jnp3134: where do you get the audigy from is it the card listed under "asoundconf list"
[16:07] <flaccid> what chip is this shampoonator
[16:07] <macke_> Now its just my Graphic card that needs to work :9
[16:07] <shampoonator> ati raedon 9800 pro
[16:08] <Jeroi> macke_ what gfx card?
[16:08] <flaccid> shampoonator: ok well im on a 9600
[16:08] <jnp3134> Xplicit: yes - audigy should be listed under asoundconf list, if it is installed
[16:08] <flaccid> shampoonator: pastebin glxinfo and xorg.conf please
[16:08] <macke_> Jeroi: im not sure, only that it is Nvidia
[16:08] <shampoonator> it worked under edgy mmh
[16:08] <Jeroi> !nvidia
[16:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:08] <BluesKaj> shampoonator, uninstalling instructions are down the page a bit : https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat712-inst.html
[16:09] <Xplicit> i just did a similar thing to get ICH5 but now that the speaker-test program doesnt even work, it may be a hardware error so im  going to go get my other card
[16:09] <flaccid> BluesKaj: restricted-manager does that, unless shampoonator did not install from repos
[16:09] <marius__> can anyone tell me how cccan i restore my title bar for all my windows
[16:10] <macke_> Jeroi: Thanks i think it worked, atleast it says i shall restart comp
[16:10] <Jeroi> np
[16:10] <shampoonator> http://pastebin.ca/838700 here and http://pastebin.ca/838698 here @ flaccid
[16:11] <juluss> re
[16:11] <BluesKaj> flaccid, not necessarily ..if the driver wasn't uninstalled it won't show that it wasn't, and then the wrong driver will reload after the next bootup
[16:11] <flaccid> restricted manager removes the other driver BluesKaj
[16:12] <flaccid> shampoonator: ok what is the output of dpkg -l | grep restricted-manager
[16:13] <jnp3134> jeroi: I have a problem similar to macke_, only my second sound card is an echoaudio mia.  I can install the audio drivers and have both cards show up, but I cannot select my onboard sound as the default in Amarok.  I have already tried "asoundconf set-default-card Mia, to no avail. Any ideas?
[16:13] <shampoonator> http://pastebin.ca/838707
[16:14] <flaccid> shampoonator: ok now goto kdesu restricted-manager-kde . what does it say about the video card?
[16:15] <shampoonator> well its aktivated....
[16:15] <juluss> so i thinks there are no way to install a hda-intel ich8
[16:15] <juluss> or realtek 861VD
[16:16] <Jeroi> jnp3134 I think alsamixer uses that soundchip wich is default soundchip in alsa
[16:16] <Jeroi> amarok
[16:16] <Xplicit> is there an alternative to using echo "compiz --replace" > ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh ; chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh
[16:16] <Xplicit> to start compiz automatically, i ve banned /home from having executable files
[16:16] <macke_> Graphic and sound cards are working nicely :9
[16:16] <flaccid> which one is activated, the restricted one yes?
[16:17] <Jeroi> nice macke_
[16:18] <flaccid> shampoonator: this is what you have to do, its important. uncheck it and apply let it do its thing then exit. then go back into it and check it again and exit. don't restart at all. then pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf again then i will give you the right xorg.conf then you will just need to restart
[16:21] <Jeroi> jnp3134 I think you just enbale your second soundchip from amarok settings
[16:21] <Jeroi> soundsystem
[16:21] <Jeroi> enable alsa
[16:21] <Jeroi> then edit default
[16:21] <Jeroi> type there your mobo soundchip name
[16:22] <Jeroi> there is default for mono and stereo
[16:22] <Jeroi> aswell as for surround also
[16:22] <flaccid> !punctuation | Jeroi
[16:22] <ubotu> Jeroi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:22] <jnp3134> jeroi: let me give that a try
[16:23] <shampoonator> well, my xorg.conf stil kooks the same flaccid
[16:23] <Jeroi> can someone explain what the word punctuation means?
[16:23] <Voyage_> i need to send mails. do i need an mta and a listserv?
[16:23] <flaccid> shampoonator: exactly?
[16:23] <shampoonator> yes
[16:24] <flaccid> shampoonator: ok so restricted manager has looked after the packages. now backup your xorg.conf and overwrite it with this one: http://pastebin.ca/838719
[16:24] <flaccid> then restart computer and see how it goes
[16:24] <jnp3134> jeroi: when I select alsa as the output pugn in Amarok, I get this message: "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers."
[16:25]  * Voyage_ shrugs
[16:25] <Jeroi> I cant help then
[16:25] <Jeroi> maybe install drivers?
[16:26] <jnp3134> jeroi: ok - I'm going to try reinstalling the latest version of alsa direct from alsa-project.org
[16:28] <shampoonator> reboot
[16:28] <Artimus> Hopefully I'm missing something.  Is there a mailing list for bugs/development discussion on non-gnome applications?  There's the Kubuntu* lists for the Kubuntu apps, but I can't seem to find where command line apps that are common between versions are discussed.  I don't really like the ubuntu-* mailing lists, as all I see are GTK related issues.
[16:30] <bossqa> hi
[16:31] <bossqa> is here anybody from Slovakia?? pls I need something
[16:31] <jnp3134> jeroi: do you know what the difference is between oss and alsa?  I see that --with-oss=?? is an option when installing alsa
[16:31] <bossqa> haloo =;(
[16:32] <Artimus> bossqa: I doubt anyone will be from there.  If you have a question, please just ask.
[16:32] <romunov> can someone sum up what a ssh tunnel manager actually does?
[16:32] <bossqa> Artimus: BUT i DONT KNOW ENGLISH =;(((
[16:33] <BluesKaj_> bossqa, what language?
[16:33] <pag> !sk | bossqa
[16:33] <ubotu> bossqa: Žiadame slovenských používateľov aby v kanáli #ubuntu hovorili po anglicky. Slovensky a česky sa dohovoríte v #ubuntu-cz.
[16:39] <dreamcoder> what package do i need to compile things?
[16:39] <flaccid> dreamcoder: build-essential
[16:40] <dreamcoder> thank you
[16:40] <flaccid> np
[16:40] <dreamcoder> how come people dont reccond automatix?
[16:40] <dreamcoder> reccomend*
[16:40] <flaccid> !automatix | dreamcoder
[16:40] <ubotu> dreamcoder: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:43] <dreamcoder> fresh install fo rme then
[16:43] <dreamcoder> lol
[16:46] <tinin> Hi, is there something like Norton Ghost to clone and restore partitions on a usb pendrive? I'd like to have a pendrive with ubuntu in it.
[16:48] <llutz> tinin: clonezilla
[16:48] <tinin> llutz thanx, i'll see
[16:49] <flaccid> if shampoooinator comes back he might need this version http://pastebin.ca/838731
[16:49] <flaccid> i gtg
[16:51] <theunixgeek> How do I set up alpine to receive email messages?
[16:54] <tinin> clonezilla live, clonezilla live experimental or clonezilla live testing?
[16:56] <Voyage_> the launcher in gnome, where it says command, i set to application in terminal, but for certain executables i have to run from a specific directory, how do i do that?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Voyage_, if you want gnome advice , best to join #ubuntu
[16:58] <Voyage_> BluesKaj ic
[16:59] <Voyage_> i have problem with my asdl connection, i can't surf to other web except google.co.id
[17:00] <Voyage_> any body there ?
[17:02] <tekstacy> good morning all.
[17:03] <tekstacy> I'm going to install 7.10 on an amd64 this morning.    Are there any problems with 64 I might find?
[17:03] <tsdgeos> no flash
[17:04] <tekstacy> No flash?? wtf.
[17:04] <hydrogen>  blame adobe.
[17:05] <tekstacy> Any way around this? The box is for 2 girls who love those stupid flash games
[17:05] <hydrogen>  don't install 64bit *buntu
[17:05] <NickPresta> !flashissue | tekstacy
[17:05] <poison__> tried and no luck
[17:05] <ubotu> tekstacy: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:05] <hydrogen> thats a different factoid
[17:05] <poison__> im just formnatted my kubuntu 64
[17:05] <NickPresta> oh. forgive me then
[17:06] <poison__> too many issues
[17:07] <tekstacy> Grrr... I guess I will just install the 32 version
[17:08] <mith__> hello all!
[17:08] <poison__> !hi
[17:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[17:09] <hydrogen> tekstacy: you won't notice a difference performance wise
[17:09] <mith__> i have a very huge problem i think
[17:09] <hydrogen> unless you happen to have 8 gigs of ram or something :/
[17:09] <mith__> when the kubuntu loaded i write in my username, and password
[17:09] <mith__> but after it take me back to the login screen
[17:10] <tekstacy> hydrogen, cool. Just a mere 512mb.
[17:10] <mith__> now i can log in by "secure login" and start some programs (firefox, konversation)
[17:10] <mith__> what should be the problem?
[17:11] <poison__> bad video setup i guess
[17:11] <poison__> resolution
[17:12] <mith__> i checked it it's okay
[17:15] <mith__> but the problem is still here
[17:15] <kaminix> How do I convert an ape file to a flac file?
[17:18] <bmack> anyone know of any other drivers ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT beside fglrx? i cant get fglrx to work
[17:19] <mith__> if i log in to kubuntu it takes me back to the login screen (kdm) i can only log in as a "secure login"
[17:19] <Simpleman> !wow
[17:19] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:20] <BluesKaj> bmack, the restricted driver in system settings/advanced ?
[17:20] <bmack> yes i cant get that to work when i enable it i get a error at startup saying starting  powernowd.. ect/rc2.d/s20powernowd: 156: cannot create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0//cpufreq/scaling_governor: dir non existant
[17:20] <tanob> hello guys, i just installed kubuntu 7.10, and the kdm shows the texts with huge fonts, any bug report about that?
[17:21] <tanob> or a solution
[17:21] <bmack> so i have to edit xorg.conf back to vesa just to get it to boot up
[17:21] <Artimus> tanob: I had an issue like that with a box, i've heard of it...
[17:21] <tanob> Artimus: good that im not alone :)
[17:22] <mith__> if i log in to kubuntu it takes me back to the login screen (kdm) i can only log in as a "secure login"
[17:22] <anakin_> Is there any way to find info about the PSU from a software utility?
[17:22] <tekstacy> anakin, not really
[17:22] <anakin_> i've tried looking it up in hardware information. but no can do.
[17:23] <anakin_> oh. alright.just wondering whether the 8600GTS would run on my 350W PSU.
[17:24] <tekstacy> anakin, um, I would personally upgrade. 500w are dirt cheap now, and 1000 arn't too bad either
[17:24] <NickPresta> anakin_, what does the 8600 GT require on the 12V rail?
[17:26] <Artimus> tanob: Try editing /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc .  Look for ServerArgsLocal.  Add "-dpi 96" to the end.  Hope you're comfortable doing that...
[17:27] <tekstacy> off to work.   Bye all!!   Thanks for the advice
[17:30] <bmack> how do i run files with extension .run?
[17:31] <llutz> bmack: sh file.run
[17:33] <mith__> if i log in. the login screen comes back. i can only log in as a secure login. what's the problem?
[17:33] <anakin_> NickPresta: i dunno. thats why i am looking.
[17:34] <bmack> how do i check what driver i have installed?
[17:34] <ardchoille> !nickspam | n00b-q33n
[17:34] <ubotu> n00b-q33n: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[17:34] <flaccid> looks like a spelling mistake to me in 1337 speak land
[17:34] <bmack> driver for video card
[17:34] <anakin_> NickPresta: it does say 'molex power connectors - yes'.
[17:35] <Ryck> hi
[17:35] <BluesKaj> llutz, does that command, sh file.bin work as well or sh file.deb ?
[17:36] <bmack> how can i tell what video card driver i have installed?
[17:36] <pag> BluesKaj, sudo dpkg -i file.deb  ;)
[17:37] <flaccid> bmack: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver . also check kdesu restricted-manager-kde
[17:37] <ubuntu_> my linux on the boot up screen doesnt boot
[17:37] <ubuntu_> it takes me to the dos manu
[17:37] <ubuntu_> menu and tells me to log in with my username and pass word
[17:37] <ubuntu_> its like the konsole screen
[17:38] <flaccid> bmack: this might help to show what is running atm from log cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep II
[17:38] <bmack> ok
[17:38] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, that is the shell (not DOS). Did this happen right after an update or change to your xorg.conf?
[17:38] <ubuntu_> ye
[17:38] <ubuntu_> right after
[17:38] <pag> which one?
[17:38] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, which one? xorg.conf change or graphic update?
[17:38] <ubuntu_> it was the compiz conf i think
[17:38] <ubuntu_> i have the back up saved
[17:39] <ubuntu_> but i cant access it now
[17:39] <ubuntu_> cause i booted from the cd
[17:39] <pag> ubuntu_, erm... yes you can? chroot <3
[17:39] <flaccid> you can log in ubuntu_ and run startx to see what the problem  might be as well
[17:39] <BluesKaj> pag some of the debs will install with deb installer pkg that is an option in gutsy, but was merely wondering about the "sh" command
[17:39] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, you can still mount your partitions from the liveCD
[17:39] <ubuntu_> so what would u suggest i type in konsole at boot up screen?
[17:40] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, or, you can login via the text interface and edit your xorg.conf or remove compiz (ask if you don't know how to do that via console)
[17:40] <ubuntu_> im like a beginner i wont know how to do all that stuff
[17:40] <pag> BluesKaj, sh file is pretty much the same as ./file - it just runs it. it doesn't define, what file will do.
[17:40] <ubuntu_> i can choose windows from grub menu
[17:41] <ubuntu_> and like every thing works fine but
[17:41] <ubuntu_> all i see for kubuntu is the konsole screen shell
[17:41] <ubuntu_> and tells me to log in and nothing happens
[17:41] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, well, if you think uninstalling compiz will fix your problems, there really isn't another way. you will have to do it via console
[17:41] <ubuntu_> okay how would i do that then
[17:41] <flaccid> ubuntu_: i think you mentioned that already
[17:41] <ubuntu_> i mean i got the back up config saved
[17:41] <ubuntu_> but i cant access it
[17:42] <ubuntu_> cause kubuntu wont let me long onto my original account
[17:42] <flaccid> why not, you can log and copy it back
[17:42] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, you would login with your username / password. then, you can remove compiz fusion: sudo apt-get remove compiz* emerald
[17:42] <flaccid> why won't it let you
[17:42] <flaccid> !doesntwork | ubuntu_
[17:42] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:42] <ubuntu_> can i restore the configs i made?
[17:42] <flaccid> sure login and use the cp command to copy it back to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:42] <NickPresta> ubuntu_, if you made a backup of your xorg.conf, you can restore it, yes
[17:43] <ubuntu_> so whats the command for that?
[17:43] <NickPresta> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:43] <NickPresta> assuming your backup is named xorg.conf.bak
[17:43] <ubuntu_> would that fix all the backups i saved?
[17:43] <flaccid> where did you save the backup xorg.conf, ubuntu_
[17:43] <ubuntu_> yes
[17:43] <ubuntu_> its on my desktop
[17:44] <ubuntu_> on my original account
[17:44] <flaccid> what is the username of the account?
[17:44] <ubuntu_> Mani213
[17:45] <flaccid> then if its named xorg.conf still the command is sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ok pag thx
[17:45] <ubuntu_> so basicly i type in
[17:45] <ubuntu_> sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:46] <flaccid> correct ubuntu_
[17:47] <ubuntu_> okay
[17:47] <ubuntu_> let me try it
[17:47] <ubuntu_> ill be back
[17:47] <flaccid> k
[17:53] <kaminix> !ape
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <kaminix> !mac
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <kaminix> Hrm...
[17:54] <mckb> i get a error from xorg.conf parse error on line 67 of section device in xorg.conf section must have identifier
[17:54] <kaminix> Where do I find the ape-file decoding mac program?
[17:54] <mckb> what does it mean identifer
[17:55] <bazhang> kaminix: for mac os? google has a few links for that
[17:55] <kaminix> bazhang: No, the program mac which decode ape-files.
[17:55] <llutz> mckb: whats in line 67 of that file? identifier like "Option", "Section"
[17:56] <flaccid> did you try google, kaminix?
[17:56] <flaccid> !find mac
[17:56] <bazhang> in kubuntu?
[17:56] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, gij, gij-4.2, libapache2-mod-macro (and 98 others)
[17:56] <mckb> "section"
[17:56] <kaminix> bazhang: Yes, a cmd program. :/
[17:56] <llutz> mckb: uppercase "Section"
[17:56] <mauri> I mount dvd movie image with: "sudo mount image.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop" but the player does not start automatically
[17:56] <mckb> Section "Device"
[17:56] <mckb> #       Driver          "vesa"
[17:56] <mckb> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[17:56] <mckb> 	Option		"VideoOverlay"		"on"
[17:56] <mckb> 	Option		"OpenGLOverlay"		"off"
[17:56] <mckb> EndSection
[17:57] <flaccid> !pastebin | mckb
[17:57] <ubotu> mckb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:57] <mckb> sorry
[17:57] <mckb> llutz it is uppercased it looks like that
[17:57] <BluesKaj> !soundkonverter | kaminix
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:58] <flaccid> kaminix: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3729
[17:58] <flaccid> kaminix: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=.ape+files+ubuntu+mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[17:58] <kaminix> BluesKaj: Have it, still need mac to use it with ape files though. flaccid: Thanks
[17:58] <BluesKaj> kaminix, anyway try soundkonverter , it'll convert ape files
[17:59] <flaccid> kaminix: did you read it properly
[17:59] <bazhang> kaminix: that link I gave you has all the commands to do
[17:59] <kaminix> Not yet, Ktorrent is bugging. I'm going to check it once I've shut it down.
[18:00] <flaccid> kaminix: either find mac to download or try http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=123827
[18:00] <rothchild> monkeys audio worked fine for me under WINE
[18:00] <BluesKaj> or convert to wav then to flac
[18:00] <flaccid> im off
[18:00] <bazhang> shntool should do the trick
[18:01] <ardchoille> !nickspam > kubusr
[18:01] <anton__> does any1 know how 2 set up a printer on kubuntu?
[18:02] <llutz> anton__: systemsettings -  printers - add printer
[18:05] <kaminix> KTorrent hate, growing.
[18:06] <kaminix> I can't even report the bug, even though it's happend twice, 'cause I don't know how to recreate it.
[18:07] <Dr_willis> Look for similer people/bugs so you can confirm their bug?
[18:07] <dreamcoder> !codecs
[18:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:08] <kaminix> Dr_willis: Sorry for the non-team spirit, but I don't really feel like looking through bug reports. :/
[18:08] <Dr_willis> Then dont bother. :)
[18:08] <DexterF> hi
[18:08] <Dr_willis> Howdy DexterF
[18:08] <kaminix> Anyone have the link bazhang sent me earlier? Lost it when I restarted X.
[18:08] <Dr_willis> Link to what?
[18:09] <DexterF> I just deleted a dir in konqueror with the "del" key, thought it would go to the Trashcan then, can't find it tho
[18:09] <DexterF> disabled desktop icons
[18:09] <kaminix> Something about converting ape to flac
[18:09] <ubuntu_> Hi,
[18:09] <ubuntu_> I am installing kubuntu,
[18:09] <ubuntu_> but the installer is blocked in the "checking disks" phase, any help please ?
[18:09] <DexterF> where would I find it? its not in ~/.Trash
[18:09] <DexterF> ubuntu_: for how long?
[18:09] <bazhang> http://aidanjm.wordpress.com/2007/02/04/converting-monkey%E2%80%99s-audio-ape-files-to-flac-in-ubuntu/ kaminix
[18:09] <Dr_willis> I though kde trash went to .kde/SOMTHING/trash
[18:09] <kaminix> bazhang: Thanks again. :)
[18:09] <mauri> I mount dvd movie image with: "sudo mount image.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop" but the player does not start automatically
[18:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i got stuff in .Trash - guess that is where kde keeps it.
[18:10] <DexterF> Dr_willis: nope
[18:10] <ubuntu_> DexterF: for more than 10 mn
[18:10] <DexterF> its an NFS share I should mention... oh.. perhaps the servers trash...
[18:11] <jhutchins> mauri: Have you configured the system to launch DVD's with a particular player on mount?
[18:11] <Dr_willis> actually.. it dont.. i just deleted somthing its not in .Trash
[18:11] <DexterF> ubuntu_: a tad long indeed. um, what are you installing, Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[18:11] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[18:11] <Dr_willis> DexterF,  use konqueror and look in --> trash:/
[18:11] <ubuntu_> DexterF: kubuntu
[18:12] <DexterF> Dr_willis: aha! thanks :)
[18:12] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Is this a cd you burned yourself?
[18:12] <ardchoille> Isn't kde trash in ~/.local/share/Trash ?
[18:12] <Dr_willis> I would be very suprised IF the system Auto-played dvd's when you mounted the .iso image
[18:12] <ubuntu_> DexterF: : yes*
[18:12] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  that may be it! :) i was thinking .kde/share/Trash
[18:13] <DexterF> ubuntu_: disk activity? disk noise? system responding at all? mouse movement etc
[18:13] <Dr_willis> I wonder how/where  .Trash  came from.
[18:13] <jhutchins>  ubuntu_ Did you verify the md5sum of the iso file?
[18:13] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: iirc, gnome keeps trash in ~/.trash
[18:13] <ubuntu_> DexterF: yes
[18:13] <DexterF> ubuntu_: how big is the disk? did you tell it to format? kub alone or was windows on it before?
[18:13] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  so much for standards. :) heh heh.
[18:13] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: lol
[18:13] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: What did you do to verify the CD when you burned it?
[18:14] <Dr_willis> I thought that Freedesktop.org had some sort of 'trash standard' :) that both kde/gome followed.
[18:14] <ubuntu_> DexterF: both windows and kubuntu were on it
[18:14] <Dr_willis> I guess I could link .Trash to .local/share/Trash
[18:14] <DexterF> ubuntu_: well, perfectly possible it dropped IO modes to PIO for safety or such, wouldn't be the first time. how big is that disk you said?
[18:14] <DexterF> (PIO means slow, takes real long to write something)
[18:15] <ubuntu_> DexterF: 60GB
[18:15] <kaminix> Is there no package holding the ape file decoder in Ubuntu? :s
[18:15] <ilikepie> hi
[18:16] <MGrunde> Hello ilikepie
[18:16] <DexterF> ubuntu_: give it another 10. guess it's formatting.
[18:16] <Dr_willis> !find ape
[18:16] <ubotu> Found: gutsy-wallpapers, inkscape, kdewallpapers, kimagemapeditor, landscape-client (and 56 others)
[18:16] <ubuntu_> DexterF: i don't understand :)
[18:16] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. kaminix  check apt:/ and search for ape ig uesx
[18:17] <mauri> someone knows if is it possibile to convert dvd movie into dvd having 2 languages and 2 subtiles
[18:17] <kaminix> Dr_willis: Seem to have found a repo holding mac. Still strange it's not included by default though. :o Isn't ape Free Software?
[18:17] <jhutchins> mauri: Where would you get the extra languages and subtitles?
[18:18] <ubuntu_> DexterF: the operation is cancelled after a timeout and the button "next" is disabled
[18:18] <mauri> jhutchins: I would like to choose languages or subtiles though the playr
[18:18] <mauri> jhutchins: I would like to choose languages or subtiles though the player
[18:18] <jhutchins> mauri: If they're not on the original DVD, where are they going to come from?
[18:19] <mauri> jhutchins: of course, they are existing in the dvd
[18:19] <ubuntu_> DexterF: it works, many thanks
[18:19] <Dr_willis> kaminix,  i cant recall ever using ape. Its possible it dosent have the proper licensing.
[18:19] <jhutchins> mauri: So what is it you need to do then?  What player are you using?
[18:20] <Dr_willis> mauri,  ive seen .mkv and other video files with Multi Audio and multi Subtitle tracks.. so i guess its possible. :)
[18:20] <jhutchins> !it | mauri
[18:20] <ubotu> mauri: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:20] <mauri> jhutchins: my idea is to learn english. The player should be vlc for example
[18:20] <DexterF> ubuntu_: finished normally?
[18:20] <ardchoille> mauri: k9copy and acidrip both have features that allow you to choose which langs and sub get copied
[18:21] <ardchoille> s/sub/subs/
[18:21] <Dr_willis> Learning English from Subtitles.. :) if that worked -  i would be able to Speak Jappanese by now. given all the anime ive watched/read.
[18:21] <jhutchins> mauri: Ok, I know for mplayer there is information on the man page for how to use subtitles and alternative languages, VLC is a little simplere, but try the man page.
[18:21] <mauri> ardchoille: i'm speaking about to have a divx and not mp2 format
[18:21] <jhutchins> mauri: # vlc in konq.
[18:22] <ardchoille> mauri: It's been a while since I used it, but I seem to remember acidrip being able to do divx
[18:22] <mauri> jhutchins: my question was...how to convert dvd to divx having more than subtiles and languages
[18:22] <kristjan_> hey I can't change .wav id tags in amarok - why?
[18:23] <jhutchins> mauri: Oh, I understand now.
[18:23] <mauri> ardchoille: with the possibile to have subtiles and languges
[18:23] <ardchoille> mauri: Hmm.. not sure, but I know a way to find out :)
[18:24] <jhutchins> mauri: I'm pretty sure you can do that.  mplayer, avidemux, or tovid would work.
[18:24] <jhutchins> mauri: ffmpeg
[18:24] <wietse> happy new year everyone :-p
[18:26] <mauri> jhutchins: thanks
[18:27] <Solifugus> my upgrade to 7.10 failed.. and I am afraid of rebooting now.
[18:27] <Solifugus> has one of these upgrades ever worked for anyone at all?  they never have for me for any distro..
[18:28] <Solifugus> except for debian.. which kubuntu clearly is not..
[18:29] <Solifugus> real question: can I re-install from disk while preserving my old data?
[18:29] <Blissex> Solifugus: if you have been careful and reinstall paying attention to the prompts, yes.
[18:29] <k4ever> hi all.
[18:30] <Blissex> Solifugus: I have done lots of upgrades and they worked for me. But I am very careful and I know my way around the package and dependency systems inside out...
[18:31] <Solifugus> Blissex: ok.. i will try that.. I could not get my work off because kubuntu's scp stalls at random times on large uploads (but not downloads).
[18:31] <Blissex> Solifugus: the best advice is to put '/' and '/home' in different partitions. Of you keep significant state in '/var', that should also be a different filesystem.
[18:31] <jhutchins> Solifugus: That's easiest if the data is on a different partition.  You can make a backup of it to somewhere else, then do the install.
[18:31] <Solifugus> Blissex: too late to partition.. it's all one right now
[18:31] <Blissex> Solifugus: file transfers stalling on uploads is a well know issue due to ISP settings.
[18:31] <jhutchins> I keep most of my data on servers that don't get updated much.
[18:32] <k4ever> i have 3 computers with kubuntu on them.  is there an automated way that i can install the same packages on all of the computers?
[18:32] <Solifugus> Blissex: is there a well know fix?
[18:32] <jhutchins> Solifugus: I find that single-partition works best for me.  If I use multiple partitions, the space I need is always on the wrong partition.
[18:32] <Solifugus> Blissex: I was trying to scp to a local machine--just one switch between on same subnet
[18:32] <jhutchins> Solifugus: I've had to symlink some essential system directories into the /home partition because some twit put all the space there.
[18:32] <Solifugus> jhutchins: actually.. i have two hard drives.. so let me take a look.
[18:33] <jhutchins> Solifugus: Burn it to DVD or CD.
[18:33] <Blissex> Solifugus: note also that RSYNC is much, much much better than SCP especially for backups. Use 'rsync -axHS --delete' to get exact tree copies (You may need to add '-AX' if you use ACLs/XATTRs).
[18:33] <Solifugus> jhutchins: burning is good.. but it'll take a lot of dvds....
[18:33] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  you may want to set up one box as an apt-caching type server  - that way each box wont have to download each package also.
[18:34] <jhutchins> Solifugus: Sounds like you should consider an external HD for backup.
[18:34] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  easy way to get  identicalpackages on all the box's is to just make a script that installs them.
[18:34] <Blissex> Solifugus: for copying on the same LAN usually either you have really huge LAN problem or it is poor TCP and flusher setup in '/etc/sysctl.conf'
[18:34] <romunov> when i try to mount a usb pen, it gives me the error "can't read superblock"... any thoughts?
[18:34] <jhutchins> Dr_willis: kubuntu must have something like kickstart where you can template a system.
[18:34] <jhutchins> romunov: Does the pen mount on other systems?
[18:35] <jhutchins> romunov: How old is it?  Has it been used much?
[18:35] <Solifugus> Blissex: it's all however kubuntu sets up by default.. the LAN is very simple and works fine.. I've also had the same problem on our LAN at work...
[18:35] <k4ever> Dr_willis: how do i do that?
[18:35] <Blissex> Solifugus: the defaults are often very bad, especially for 1gb/s LAN speeds.
[18:36] <Blissex> Solifugus: and especially for machines with lots of RAM and fast disks. The defaults are good for 10mb/s LANS with 4GB disks and 64MB of RAM...
[18:38] <Solifugus> Blissex: I wonder why.. I'd have though what's good for slow is even better for fast..  (I have two 100GB drives, 2GB RAM, Intel core duo on 100mb/s LAN at home and gigabit at work--who uses 10mb/s anymore?)
[18:38] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  a script with a bunch of 'sudo apt-get install whatever ' lines. :) then ssh to the box's and run the script
[18:38] <Blissex> Solifugus: just legacy thinking.
[18:38] <Blissex> Solifugus: check out http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/blog/0707jul.html#070701b
[18:39] <Solifugus> Blissex: I might try rsync.. need to setup my backup machine again.
[18:40] <|Quest|> is there a way that i can run 2 os simultaniously. xp and ubuntu at the same time. but independent of each other.?
[18:40] <Blissex> |Quest|: sure, if you are willing to pay.
[18:40] <|Quest|> Blissex is the solution software or hardwar?E
[18:40] <Blissex> |Quest|: both...
[18:41] <|Quest|> dont say . but 2 computers
[18:41] <jhutchins> |Quest|: That's what virtualization is all about.  vmware, xen, etc.
[18:41]  * |Quest| shrugs
[18:41] <|Quest|> jhutchins no.. in virtualisation. one os is dependant of another
[18:41] <|Quest|> i dont want that
[18:42] <jhutchins> Well, get a kvm and do it the primitive way then.  I would suggest you learn more about virtualization.
[18:42] <Blissex> |Quest|: Xen is an operating system that can run both XP and GNU Linux in independent runtime partitions.
[18:42] <kristjan_> how to convert .wav files to flac?
[18:42] <Blissex> Solifugus: for TCp optim also http://proj.sunet.se/E2E/tcptune.html
[18:42] <Blissex> kristjan_: the 'flac' command does that.
[18:43] <kristjan_> Blissex: do I have to install flac?
[18:43] <Blissex> Solifugus: also note that SSH default encryption is fairly slow
[18:43] <kristjan_> Blissex: I would prefer a gui tool if possible
[18:43] <Blissex> kristjan_: your questions have a flavour of the blindingly obvious.
[18:43] <Blissex> kristjan_: there are zillions of GUI frontends that rip and convert. Just do a search thru FreshMeat.net for pointers...
[18:44] <|Quest|> Blissex - well thats the main purpose of xen? and are you sure both will be independent in terms of hardware and software ?
[18:44] <kristjan_> Blissex: zillions? are you sure?
[18:44] <kristjan_> Blissex: I bet less than million
[18:44] <Blissex> |Quest|: yes sure. Otherwise you can ask IBM to sell you PART machines.
[18:45] <Greenery> kristjan_: try soundKonverter
[18:45] <Blissex> kristjan_: a zillion is a very flexible unit of measure. For example my manly appendage length is a zillion too :-)
[18:45] <|Quest|> ok
[18:45] <|Quest|> thanks Blissex
[18:45] <|Quest|> Blissex any other ways. or this is the only one. or the only best ?
[18:45] <Greenery> !soundkonverter
[18:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:45] <romunov> jhutchins: the pen is actually an mp3 player
[18:46] <romunov> jhutchins: and it worked fine until recently
[18:46] <dario> kubuntu italiano ?
[18:46] <romunov> jhutchins: i can see it in windows (xp), but i can't access it
[18:46] <romunov> jhutchins: i can see it in kubuntu as well, but i can't enter it
[18:46] <Blissex> !it
[18:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:47] <romunov> jhutchins: when i try to mount it, i get this error: mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock
[18:47] <ardchoille> !guidelines | Blissex
[18:47] <ubotu> Blissex: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:48] <|Quest|> Blissex any other ways. or this is the only one. or the only best ?
[18:48] <k4ever> Dr_willis: i'm reading up on apt-cache and apt-proxy now. don't see what i need.  i want to be able to install the same packages on all machines at once.  or at least duplicate the packages installed on one machine to another.  synaptic is supposed to be able to create a script to duplicate the installed packages but the script it creates is empty.
[18:49] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  i just jot down all the packages i want in to a text file. or use a script i found that takes all the pacakges listing on one box. and can reinstall them
[18:50] <Blissex> k4ever: try the ''selection'' mechanism.
[18:50] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[18:50] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[18:51] <ilikepie> dpkg -list
[18:51] <Dr_willis> generates a listing of all installed pacakges On a box. You can then Import that list with......
[18:51] <Dr_willis> cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install
[18:51] <Dr_willis> BUT you better be sure you want all in the list. :)
[18:52] <Dr_willis> I normally edit the package_list, and trim out the video drivers and other parts that may only be needed on a specific machine
[18:52] <ilikepie> and that the computers are the same type for a copy and paste.
[18:53] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  outstanding!  just what i was looking for.  i'm tired of all my machines having different packages installed on them.  now i can get one machine like i like it then replicate all the others.
[18:54] <kristjan_> Greenery: soundkonverter is pretty nice
[18:55] <zorglu_> q. i look for a tool to monitor the network activity (something like 'top' for process) using only text. this is for a server of mine
[18:56] <Greenery> kristjan_: yup i love it very simple
[18:56] <Dr_willis> !info ntop
[18:56] <ubotu> ntop: display network usage in top-like format. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.2-10.1 (gutsy), package size 2707 kB, installed size 11172 kB
[18:56] <kristjan_> Greenery: it's like the other one I like very much "krename"
[18:56] <Dr_willis> Hows that zorglu_  :)
[18:56] <corey> hi
[18:56] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: thanks :)
[18:57] <kaminix> Okay... now I have libmac2, but no mac program. :p
[18:57] <corey> any one has tried KDE4?
[18:57] <corey> Stable?
[18:58] <mith__> where can i find log files (especially system log)?
[18:58] <ubuntu_> DexterF: I have discovered why the installer couldn't perform the "disks check" step
[18:58] <ubuntu_> DexterF: it's becasue
[18:58] <ardchoille> corey: It's not stable, it's an rc release. iirc, stable release is supposed to be in January
[18:58] <corey> the log file is in /var
[18:58] <ubuntu_> DexterF: it's because I have my ipod connected
[18:58] <DexterF> aah, "because". now that explains everything.
[18:58] <Dr_willis> ntop dont seem to want to work right here.. Hmmm.
[18:58] <mith__> thx corey
[18:58] <corey> np
[18:59] <ubuntu_> DexterF: it's because I have my ipod connected
[18:59] <DexterF> ubuntu_: why do you connect an ipod to a machine youre installigna new os on?
[18:59] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: i installed it. but running it display something more like a log of debug than anything
[18:59] <ubuntu_> DexterF: I forgot it
[18:59] <DexterF> corey: I don't expect kde4 to be stable before 2009
[18:59] <kaminix> Okaaay... soundKonverter does not list .ape among the supported file formats.
[18:59] <DexterF> ubuntu_: ok, but how did that affect the installation?
[18:59] <corey> really?
[19:00] <zorglu_> Sun 30 Dec 2007 19:59:45 CET  THREADMGMT[t3035794320]: SIH: Idle host scan thread terminated [p32368] <- Dr_willis this kind of things. is this normal ?
[19:00] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  thats how it works I guess.
[19:00] <corey> i thought there is gonna be a big release event in Jan
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Ive never used it befor. :)
[19:00] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: hehe ok :)
[19:00] <mith__> and in here where are they? i have a login problem :S
[19:00] <ubuntu_> DexterF: the installer take the ipod as a disk, too
[19:00] <Dr_willis> zorglu_,  reading 'man ntop' right now
[19:01] <DexterF> corey: totally. there's so much new, so much rebuilt from scratch, so many new apis and interfaces, it's gonna take a damn long time to work out all the teething troubles
[19:01] <DexterF> ubuntu_: well,ok, but that shouldn't be much of a problem. ah, maybe the installer scanned it for settings. kub has this migration wizard thing.
[19:01] <corey> indeed, DexterF
[19:01] <corey> heehee
[19:02] <corey> They had been delayed
[19:02] <mith__> when i log in to kubuntu it takes me back to the login screen...but there aren't any messages
[19:02] <mith__> can anybody help me?
[19:02] <corey> mith__, try different sessions?
[19:03] <DexterF> corey: when I treid the second beta I came to think this even didn't come near a beta, hardly anything worked at all, some features weren'timplemented at all and not to forget there's phonon. maybe things will straighten out now that phonon is officially part of qt
[19:03] <jussi01> mith__: is your hdd full?
[19:03] <mith__> i can log in in any sessions, and from the login screen as a "secure login" but with the real kde login i can't
[19:03] <mith__> sorry for my bad english
[19:04] <mith__> jussi0: i don't think so
[19:04] <corey> DexterF: Hmmmmm, u are right, that's actually the same as what I heared from others
[19:04] <jussi01> !tab > mith__
[19:05] <DexterF> ill stick with kde3 at least til 4.0.3 or 4.1 is out and I dont expect that to happen before the end of 2008
[19:05] <corey> i had ubuntu? or Kubuntu?
[19:05] <corey> sorry
[19:05] <DexterF> mayber ill set up a tinkerbox tho...
[19:05] <mith__> :$ sorry im new in irc
[19:05] <corey> i mean u had kubuntu or ubuntu
[19:05] <corey> thanks, DexterF
[19:05] <DarkTan_> interesting.....
[19:06] <corey> I think I will stick with the current version for now...
[19:06] <mith__> jussi01: that's why i searching the log files because i don't know what is the problem
[19:07] <DexterF> corey: you do knwo you can have kde3 and 4 installed parallel?
[19:07] <corey> yeah
[19:07] <corey> but i don't have big space of HD :p
[19:08] <mith__> jussi01: 60% of my HDD is empty
[19:08] <DarkTan_> can someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50144/
[19:08] <jussi01> mith__: have you applied a theme recently? or other changes?
[19:09] <Jeroi> Hey whu cant ubuntu mount my usb hard disk with ntfs filesystem?
[19:10] <Jeroi> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[19:10] <corey> DexterF, although we are saying KDE4 is still not ready yet, I think no matter what it's still better than the buggy Gnome
[19:10] <Jeroi> I tested with testdisk utility that filesystem is ok and did write filesystem again with it and rebooted
[19:11] <jussi01> Jeroi: this thread may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210
[19:11] <DexterF> corey: beats me what people see in gnome. its ugly and the configuration is more cryptic than windows' registry. If I wanted a gtk based leightweight system I'd go for XFCE
[19:11] <DexterF> (which I consider every now and then :)  )
[19:11] <DarkTan_> speaking of gnome, i accdentally installed it, how do i make it go away?
[19:12] <DexterF> hardly
[19:12] <DexterF> at least not 100%
[19:12] <mith__> jussi01: yes i have changed some unused partitions mount point :$ :D
[19:12] <romunov> apt-get remove gnome-desktop?
[19:12] <corey> ha  :)
[19:12] <corey> yah
[19:12] <DarkTan_> ahhh, didn't add -desktop to the command, gonna try that
[19:12] <MGrunde> DarkTan: From the looks of it, you have two network cards, one of which has a ralink chipset, and both are attempting to connect to the network "TheNetwork"
[19:12] <DexterF> romunov: purge rather. tho I guess that leaves you with an empty disk afterwards
[19:12] <corey> apt-get remove gnome-desktop
[19:12] <DarkTan_> also can you tell me that this means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50144/
[19:13] <DarkTan_> ok, thats getting rid of it
[19:14] <Dr_willis> actually that would just get rid of the meta-package. not all the pacakges it installed. i think
[19:14] <mith__> jussi01: but now i have logged in as a secure login. started compiz to be able to move windows, and in konqueror those partitions are works fine
[19:14] <jussi01> mith__: I suggest you go and change it back then...
[19:15] <romunov> DexterF: i have no problem with that - how do i purge?
[19:15] <DarkTan_> well the bits and peices i can get rid of through apt-get remove or the Adept or Synaptic
[19:16] <Dr_willis> the meta-package you MIGHT of wanted to keep installed so you could see what all it depends on. :) and have a list of what it installed.
[19:16] <Dr_willis> but remoiveing any of the other bits would of removed the meta package also
[19:16] <DexterF> romunov: man apt
[19:16] <bky> what's the easiest way to set gutsy to use konqueror as the filemanager?
[19:17] <Jeroi> wau thanks alot!
[19:17] <DarkTan_> i'll just leave it there and ckean out the menus
[19:17] <corey> anyone knows about lazybuntu?
[19:17] <rothchild> earlier I installed a bunch of stuff on my laptop using add remove programs and I want some of it on my desktop too, is there a way to get the .debs from the laptop (make it a repository in effect) rather than downloading them all again from canonnical?
[19:17] <Jeroi> Needed to add mountpoint for it
[19:17] <DarkTan_> right now i'm trying to get my wireless working, i have a broadcom internal and a linksys USB adapter hooked up
[19:17] <corey> man... that tools helps ubuntu going to family a lot man...
[19:18] <corey> my dad and mom are even using Ubuntu...
[19:18] <DarkTan_> bother seem to be in under iwconfig, but as soon as i disconect my ethernet cable i loose 'net
[19:18] <padey> wirelles in kubuntu sure gave me a hard time
[19:18] <DarkTan_> three days on it now
[19:18] <padey> wireless*
[19:18] <MGrunde> Try sudo dhclient wlan0
[19:19] <padey> do you have the windows driver cd for the card?
[19:19] <ubuntu_> someone know why  I have the folowing message: "/dev/sda5 should be formatted to be used by this program"
[19:19] <|Quest|> need help pretty badly... any nice guy. who can guide me to run me pci alpha tv tuner. ?
[19:19] <padey> just sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[19:19] <DarkTan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50146/
[19:19] <DarkTan_> it gave me this
[19:20] <ubuntu_> DexterF: do you know why  I have the folowing message: "/dev/sda5 should be formatted to be used by this program"
[19:20] <MGrunde> Okay, now unplug your ethernet.
[19:20] <DarkTan_> i already went through all the ndiswrapper
[19:20] <MGrunde> Quest - What is the make and model of your tv tuner?
[19:20] <DarkTan_> unpluges the only thing that seems to work is konversation
[19:20] <DexterF> ubuntu_: who says this?
[19:21] <ubuntu_> DexterF: the installer
[19:21] <DexterF> well, don't know, is sda5 maybe said ipod?
[19:21] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: i found another one. much simpler :) it is called 'iftop'
[19:21] <zorglu_> !info iftop
[19:21] <ubotu> iftop: displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-4 (gutsy), package size 31 kB, installed size 104 kB
[19:22] <ubuntu_> DexterF: I have deconnected my ipod
[19:22] <kaminix> Shouldn't this work? mplayer input.ape -dumpaudio -dumpfile output.wav (mplayer can play .ape)
[19:23] <DarkTan_> ok, i can access konversation but not gaim, or anything else online through konquer or firefox
[19:24] <ubuntu_> DexterF: the message is:
[19:24] <ubuntu_> DexterF: The file system on /dev/sda5 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[19:24] <MGrunde> DarkTan - That's odd.  Lets try this:  "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" that'll down your ethernet, then "sudo ifconfig rausb0 down" that'll down your ralink card, then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" that'll down your last wireless card.  Then run "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid TheNetwork" "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[19:24] <MGrunde> If that doesn
[19:24] <MGrunde> If that doesn't work, "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" to reconnect your ethernet
[19:24] <DarkTan_> ok
[19:25] <DexterF> ubuntu_: well, yes, / is the root directory, where evrything starts. the partiton you told the installer to use oviously is sda5, but you need to format it
[19:26] <ubuntu_> DexterF: with gparted, I have formatted it to ext3
[19:27] <DexterF> ubuntu_: let the installer reformat it. iirc it's not smart enough to grok it itself
[19:27] <DarkTan_> w00t! it works!
[19:27] <MGrunde> Awesome
[19:29] <MGrunde> Ethernet unplugged and everything?
[19:29] <DarkTan_> yep
[19:30] <MGrunde> Great.  Now you can unplug your ralink USB wireless adapter.
[19:30] <DarkTan_> already did and put it back on the desktop
[19:30] <MGrunde> You'll probably want to set up your wireless connection in network manager, so it connects on startup.
[19:30] <DarkTan_> just me and my laptop
[19:30] <MGrunde> Awesome.  It's a great feeling, isn't it?
[19:31] <DarkTan_> yep, now where would the network manager be on dapper?
[19:34] <MGrunde> Dapper?  I'm not sure if it comes installed with Dapper.  If it's not in the System Tray, try running knetworkmanager.
[19:35] <DarkTan_2> hmm, got booted and lost my nick
[19:36] <cap601> My internet download speeds on Kubuntu are far slower than on Windows (even for same files).  I have tried disabling IPv6 without success.  How can I fix this?
[19:37] <jussi01> cap601: how do you connect to the net?
[19:39] <Dr_willis> ive notied that windows often LIES about its speeds its downloading at also.
[19:39] <cap601> @jussi01 - Wireless connection
[19:41] <ubuntu> hello
[19:42] <BluesKaj> !hi
[19:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:42] <Dr_willis> !moo
[19:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <BluesKaj> !foo
[19:43] <ubotu> bar
[19:43] <BluesKaj> !foobar
[19:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foobar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:43] <BluesKaj> now, does that makes sense ?
[19:44] <comedit> anybody familiar with the use of vmware server on kubuntu ?
[19:44] <Dr_willis> I use vmware-server all the time
[19:44] <BluesKaj> !vmware
[19:44] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[19:44] <Dr_willis> Mainly to test out live cd image files
[19:44] <comedit> i installed it but am not able to adjust memorry size
[19:44] <comedit> greyed out
[19:45] <comedit> i assume i should be root but maybe another reason
[19:47] <comedit> I just changed to kubuntu, and have converted my old xp to a vm (vmware converter), but it needs more memory
[19:47] <comedit> I can get to the memory part but all is greyed out, anybody an idea
[19:47] <Sonja> what are the pros and cons of kubuntu versus ubuntu?
[19:50] <comedit> kubuntu is more user friendly I would say
[19:50] <DarkTan_2> can synaptic be activated from the konsole?
[19:50] <Dr_willis> the command 'synaptic' will launch synaptic
[19:50] <Dr_willis> if thats what you mean
[19:51] <Dr_willis> if its isntalled that is.
[19:51] <DarkTan_2> apt-get work with adept correct?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Sonja, it's mostly personal taste , oldtime linux users usually prefer gnome desktop/ubuntu ( not all but a lot ), oldtime windows users usually prefer kde/kubuntu
[19:51] <Dr_willis> Sonja,  i normally install  Ubuntu, then insatll kubuntu-desktop so i have both.
[19:52] <Dr_willis> adept/synaptic/aptitude are all front ends to the paackging system. They all work the 'same' :)
[19:52] <DarkTan_2> ok
[19:52] <DarkTan_2> i was wondering becuase i apt-get couldn't find packages that synaptic had
[19:52] <Dr_willis> OLD OLDTime linux users use fluxbox. :) older still.. use icewm/olvwm
[19:53] <Dr_willis> DarkTan_2,  they should be finding identical packages.
[19:53] <Dr_willis> You may be typing/spelling wrong.
[19:53] <DarkTan_2> ok
[19:53] <DarkTan_2> also, how can i set my other hdd partitions to mount on boot
[19:53] <rothchild> Hi my fn key is latched on it's a bit of a 'mare how can i get it unlatched/
[19:54] <DarkTan_> w00t! got my name back
[19:55] <jussi01> !register > DarkTan_
[19:56] <Sonja> is it easy to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[19:56] <DarkTan_> it's reged, i got kicked but my name was logged in still
[19:56] <jussi01> Sonja: quite easy
[19:56] <Dr_willis> Sonja,  trivial
[19:56] <jussi01> !ghost > DarkTan_
[19:56] <Dr_willis> pick what one to use at the kdm/gdm screen..
[19:57] <Dr_willis> Unless of course you are a magazine writer i read. that griped about Not being able to do that.. because he enavled auto-login...  :)
[19:57] <DarkTan_> thx
[19:57] <Dr_willis> Ive noticed a lot of very very very BADLY done magazine reviews/articals on Linux lately.
[19:57] <Dr_willis> If they held windows up to the same standards they seem to be demanding of a 'free' os... they would be storming MS HQ.
[19:58] <jussi01> DarkTan_: :)
[20:01] <Sonja> ok help me switch to kubuntu
[20:01] <Sonja> i want to compare
[20:01] <ardchoille> Sonja: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <ardchoille> Sonja: That will install the kubuntu kde desktop environment
[20:02] <Dr_willis> then log out,  use the gdm screens menus to pick the KDE desktop. and log back in
[20:04] <Sonja> ok
[20:05] <Sonja> most appz i'm using are kde interestingly
[20:05] <Sonja> can i make kde all nice and orange and brown like ubuntu?
[20:05] <Sonja> i hate blue
[20:05] <Sonja> i've been using windows for decades ad i dont want to see blue anymore :)
[20:05] <ardchoille> Sonja: You can easily change colors, themes, etc in kde control centre
[20:06]  * BluesKaj tries not to be miffed :)
[20:06] <Dr_willis> Make them all Hot-Pink
[20:06] <ardchoille> lol
[20:06] <DarkTan_> o_0
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Sonja, those earthy colours will get boring after a bit , you just watch :)
[20:08] <SirChasm> guys, help, my wireless stopped working, and I don't know why
[20:09] <SirChasm> the driver is still enabled
[20:09] <SirChasm> but it's just not scanning for any networks
[20:09] <zorglu_> SirChasm: tried another computer or another os ?
[20:09] <zorglu_> SirChasm: do they find the network ?
[20:10] <SirChasm> well i know my sister is connected to our router right now
[20:10] <zorglu_> SirChasm: if not, considere it may be a network issue. as opposed to an os issue
[20:10] <SirChasm> as am i actually, but wired connection
[20:10] <zorglu_> SirChasm: a big 'but' :)
[20:10] <SirChasm> the bigger problem is that it's just not lisitng ANY site networks at all
[20:11] <SirChasm> i know all my neighbours have wireless, and i can usually see them
[20:11] <SirChasm> now, nada
[20:11] <DarkTan_> what is x?
[20:11] <SirChasm> to be honest, it feels just like when the driver wasn't working
[20:11] <|Quest|> need help pretty badly... any nice guy. who can guide me to run me pci alpha tv tuner. ?
[20:11] <SirChasm> but i went to restricted-manager, and it's enabled and in use
[20:12] <Artimus> I'm having troubles with HAL.  When I try to browse to a device in media:/ it says "Feature Only Available with HAL".  ps aux | grep hald reveals hald is not running.  Starting it manually does not report any errors, but it does not stay running.
[20:14] <SirChasm> i even tried disabling the driver and re-enabling it, but it didn't fix it
[20:15] <BluesKaj> |Quest|, have you found the linux drivers for the tuner and installed them
[20:15] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:15] <|Quest|> BluesKaj aaahhnnn dont ask that question please........
[20:15] <BluesKaj> I must
[20:16] <|Quest|> BluesKaj iam having a headach after installed those. from linuxtv.org  . iam a new bie. i gues i didnt some thing wrong. or didnt do any thing right.  (i have kdetv and mythtv. they are not working.) so its a driver problem. i dont even know how to check.
[20:17] <DarkTan_> well, i am off, thx for the help
[20:18] <BluesKaj> |Quest|, 'tvtime' might run on that tuner ...not sure , check on their site
[20:20] <|Quest|> BluesKaj sure. but how do i know i have all drivers i need.?
[20:23] <SirChasm> any alternative to KNetworkManager?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> |Quest|, what is the actual make & model tv tuner card ?
[20:25] <|Quest|> BluesKaj its philips saa71309
[20:25] <|Quest|> BluesKaj its aplha tv featuring philips saa71309
[20:27] <jhutchins> |Quest|: Unlike windows, linux reports what it's doing and what errors there are.  Check the system logs to see if the drivers you installed are loading properly.  If they load at boot time, they may be in dmesg - use dmesg | less to scroll through it.  Also look in /var/log/messages and see what's happening there.
[20:27] <jhutchins> |Quest|: With GUI programs, you can often start them from a console and if there are errors, you will see them.
[20:28] <jhutchins> |Quest|: Rather than trying to find someone here who knows your specific card, it's better to go to the various Linux Video sites and look for yourself - it's what we would have to do.
[20:28] <DarkTan_> !alphacube
[20:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alphacube - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:28] <jhutchins> |Quest|: Not that we don't want to help.
[20:28] <DarkTan_> !kwin
[20:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:29] <BluesKaj> |Quest|, I think the philips cards are supported and configged directly by tvtime , no driver installation needed
[20:29] <|Quest|> jhutchins BluesKaj got it.. thanks ! :)
[20:29] <|Quest|> BluesKaj ah ic.. thanks..
[20:29] <|Quest|> tvtime!
[20:29] <jhutchins> |Quest|: You may want to UN-load some of the drivers then.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> yessir
[20:30] <DarkTan_> how to i run kwin
[20:30] <Q-collective> DarkTan_: it should run when you login to kde
[20:30] <Dr_willis> why are you trying to run jkust kwin ?
[20:30] <CheGuevara> DarkTan_: what are you trying to do?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> well, for one thing uninstall mythtv for one , it will interfere with tvtime if i remember correctly
[20:31] <DarkTan_> i'm trying to use the alphacube thing,,,,although i may not be what i was looking for
[20:32] <CheGuevara> alphacube is for metacity isnt it
[20:32] <CheGuevara> oh there's one for kde as well
[20:35] <DarkTan_> is that the thing that makes the desktop a cube?
[20:36] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[20:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:36] <Dr_willis> thats the BIG eyecandy feature of compiz
[20:36] <DarkTan_> ahhh it compiz i need, maybe i should try and remember what people tell me......
[20:37] <Dr_willis> !find alphacube
[20:37] <ubotu> Found: kwin-style-alphacube
[20:37] <DarkTan_> that is what i installed
[20:38] <Dr_willis> thats a kde theme.
[20:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:38] <Dr_willis> !find kwin-style
[20:38] <ubotu> Found: kwin-style-crystal, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 3 others)
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Theres more themes.
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Install them all!
[20:38] <DarkTan_> ahhh, so how do i use them?
[20:38] <Dr_willis> Install them.. select them in the control center theme thang.
[20:39] <DarkTan_> and where is the control center theme thang in dapper?
[20:39] <Dr_willis> In the menus somewhere I imagine. :) im on gutsy and i have that Little Wrench on my Panel i use.
[20:39] <Dr_willis> add to panel --> Settings
[20:39] <Blinkiz> Have downloaded kubuntu with KDE4-rc2. I would like to use complete hard disk encryption when I install. At the moment, no alternative CD exist. Any suggestion how do handle this? I know about mdadm and I guess I can get somehing to work with mdadm
[20:40] <Blinkiz> Should I install ubuntu in "cli mode" and then download KDE4-rc2 from repository?
[20:40] <DarkTan_> damn, settings was there, i accdentally clicked delete and saved
[20:41] <Blinkiz> Or should I download kubuntu 7.10 and then upgrade to KDE4?
[20:42]  * unix_infidel wonders what kde4 will look like.
[20:42] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: You are sure you want to go completely to KDE4?
[20:42] <Blinkiz> Lynoure: Yes! :)
[20:42] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: it's not even released yet...
[20:42] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: my, never seen anyone who liked the RCs that much :)
[20:42] <ardchoille> Blinkiz: I don't think kde4 is ready for daily/production use yet.
[20:43] <hitsuji> i would wait for the stable release if i were you
[20:43] <Blinkiz> Jeje, I like RC releases.
[20:43] <unix_infidel> ardchoille: who uses kde for production use?
[20:43] <unix_infidel> lol
[20:43] <ardchoille> unix_infidel: Lots of folks :)
[20:43] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: if you really want bleeding edge, install hardy, and go to #ubuntu+1 for support
[20:44] <unix_infidel> dolphin does look pretty interesting as far as file management goes.
[20:44] <Lynoure> unix_infidel: I do, actually...
[20:44] <Blinkiz> Oooo nopp, don´t like alpha..
[20:44] <Blinkiz> ;)
[20:44] <jhutchins> Blinkiz: I would recommend that you install kubuntu, then do the parallel install of KDE4.  It's really not ready for prime time yet, a number of essential packages have not been ported.
[20:44] <DarkTan_> is there a way to upgrade 6.06 to gutsy with out d/ling and burning a new DVD?
[20:44] <Blinkiz> jhutchins: That was the answer I was looking for. I´ll do that :()
[20:45] <ardchoille> !upgrade | DarkTan_
[20:45] <ubotu> DarkTan_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:45] <jhutchins> Blinkiz: Seriously though, if you're going to run it, be good and report bugs and fixes.
[20:45] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: You have to upgrade to Edgy, then from Edgy to Feisty, Then from Feisty to Gutsy
[20:46] <Blinkiz> jhutchins: Sure, if I find any.
[20:46] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: Probably faster to dl the Gutsy desktop cd and install it
[20:46] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: if you are a non-KDE developer who ends up using KDE4 fulltime, do blog about it. So far all reviews seem to be from devs or after brief use only
[20:46] <jhutchins> DarkTan_: Short answer is yes, do net upgrades.  You _could- go directly to 7.1, but it's not recommended.
[20:46] <Blinkiz> Lynoure: okay, chill.. Am not that kind of die hard user. ;)
[20:47] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: chill?
[20:47] <Blinkiz> Lynoure: Yeah, did I spell it wrong? I mean, "relax".
[20:47] <DarkTan_> what is "gksu" for?
[20:47] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: That the gnome equivalent of kdesu
[20:48] <DarkTan_> that's what i though
[20:48] <DarkTan_> thx
[20:48] <Lynoure> Blinkiz: I just don't understand. Just asked you to write a review if you end up using it fulltime. Nothing to get upset over.
[20:48] <DarkTan_> ok i just punched it kdesu "update-manager -c" and got "cannot connect to X server"
[20:49] <DarkTan_> in*
[20:49] <xb0t> hi im new in linux (kubuntu since 1 day my first linx os). i wanted to ask how i can install firefox under kubuntu
[20:49] <xb0t> and another question
[20:49] <Blinkiz> Lynoure: Think you miss understand me. Am not upset or anything. Smiling like always! :) Can´t really identify myself being the person writing reviews. Guess it´s not my thing...
[20:49] <xb0t> why cant i log in as root? i do su and when i type my password it says wrong pw.
[20:49] <Lynoure> DarkTan_: if you are not in a hurry, there will be a direct upgrade from Dapper to the next release, Hardy (8.04, I think)
[20:49] <[ka]killer> ok, im trying to set up a new ipod
[20:49] <DarkTan_> xb0t: sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:49] <ardchoille> xb0t: sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:50] <xb0t> must i be root?
[20:50] <DarkTan_> lynoure: thx, i'll wat then
[20:50] <ardchoille> xb0t: no
[20:50] <xb0t> but what must i do
[20:50] <xb0t> when i must be root
[20:50] <ardchoille> xb0t: You will find that reboots are rare
[20:50] <[ka]killer> can anyone help me out?
[20:50] <[ka]killer> i already have gtkpod installed, but it does not detect the ipod
[20:50] <xb0t> and it says i need rootrights but the password doesnt work.
[20:51] <ardchoille> !sudo | xb0t read this
[20:51] <ubotu> xb0t read this: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:51] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  i ran the command you gave me (cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install).   it outputs that packages needs to be installed, asks me if i want to continue, then immediately aborts..
[20:51] <lolo> Hi anyone running Gutsy, can you tell me if your /lib/modules/"kernel name"/kernel/drivers/video/ has a folder of file named aty in there?
[20:51] <tekteen> can someone help me with pulseaudio. I followed the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio. I pastebined the problem at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50162/.
[20:51] <arkaitz> tengo un probelmilla
[20:51] <tekteen> !es | arkaitz
[20:51] <ubotu> arkaitz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:52] <tekteen> arkaitz: lo siento
[20:52] <DarkTan_> let me guess, when i install compiz it saves in the settings" menu i don't have anymore right?
[20:52] <xb0t> sudo apt-get install programmname ?
[20:52] <xb0t> this is the maincommand for installing?
[20:52] <ardchoille> xb0t: Yes, that uses apt-get for installing packages
[20:53] <xb0t> and how do i find out how the packetsname is?
[20:53] <xb0t> whether for example
[20:53] <xb0t> i want to install divx
[20:53] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  do an apt-get update, and upgrade and try again perhaps?
[20:53] <xb0t> just typing divx as name?
[20:53] <ardchoille> xb0t: apt-cache search divx
[20:53] <Dr_willis> !info divx
[20:53] <ubotu> Package divx does not exist in gutsy
[20:53] <tekteen> xb0t: w32codecs
[20:53] <Dr_willis> Theres not a divx package that i know of. :) there may be some codec pacakges for it
[20:53] <xb0t> !info java
[20:53] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in gutsy
[20:54] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: w32codecs?
[20:54] <xb0t> !w32codecs
[20:54] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[20:54] <Dr_willis> Installing the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' grabs a lot of that stuff to begin with
[20:54] <ardchoille> xb0t: apt-cache search java
[20:54] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: True
[20:54] <tekteen> xb0t: for java I use sun-java6-bin
[20:54] <Dr_willis> Thats like the fitst thing i isntall when setingup a new install
[20:55] <tekteen> and sun-java6-plugin
[20:55] <xb0t> ok i found it
[20:55] <xb0t> and another question
[20:55] <xb0t> when i need this tips again
[20:55] <xb0t> can u tell me where the irc log of this cahnnel is?
[20:55] <ardchoille> !irclogs
[20:55] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[20:55] <xb0t> so that i can read that things when i need them again
[20:55] <crimsun> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <xb0t> hm it installed java
[20:56] <xb0t> but now
[20:56] <xb0t> im on a window in terminal
[20:56] <xb0t> looks like ms dos
[20:56] <xb0t> and when i push enter
[20:56] <xb0t> nothing happens
[20:56] <ardchoille> Did you type a comand before pusing enter?
[20:57] <mot_> INTERNETS!
[20:57] <xb0t> i cant type anything
[20:57] <mot_> FAIL ME NOT!
[20:57] <mot_> xb0t,  you drunk?
[20:57] <xb0t> at the end
[20:57] <xb0t> theres a <ok>
[20:57] <xb0t> but its everything in terminal
[20:57] <xb0t> and i cant push anything
[20:58] <DarkTan_> !register
[20:58] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[20:58] <ardchoille> !caps| mot_
[20:58] <ubotu> mot_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:59] <adonyas> Olá
[20:59] <pyrotix> erm, anyone know how to merge layers in karbon?
[20:59] <pyrotix> or karbon14
[21:00] <pyrotix> and why when I type sudo apt-get install g++ it tells me to insert my gutsy CD?
[21:00] <Dr_willis> because your sources.list has the  cd listed
[21:01] <ardchoille> !nickspam > |Dreams|
[21:01] <pyrotix> and I can't get g++ from a package online?
[21:01] <|Dreams|> sorry
[21:01] <|Dreams|> was trying to find a nick not reggeed
[21:02] <ardchoille> pyrotix: Maybe comment the cd sources in /etc/apt/sources.list? That will get rid of the message
[21:02] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, it installed some packages.  i ran the command again and got the same results, an abort.
[21:02] <Dr_willis> remove the cd listing in the sources.list (or use the repo managment feature in your pakcage manager)  then update/upgrade.
[21:03] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  interesting.    whats the exact command/seqnence you are using?
[21:03] <ardchoille> !nickspam > corporeal
[21:04] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  aha. You may need to use a option to apt-get to tell it yes.
[21:04] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  i did "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade", then "cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install"
[21:05] <Dr_willis> --assume-yes and --force-yes may be needed
[21:06] <Dr_willis> also you DID make the package_list?
[21:06] <Dr_willis> Heres what i normally do.. on machine 1.
[21:06] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[21:06] <Dr_willis> that makes the package list.. I ssh that over to machine #2.
[21:07] <Dr_willis> then i run the  other command that reads that list
[21:07] <Dr_willis> cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install  --assume-yes --force-yes
[21:07] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  yes i made the package_list, i also copied the sources.list from the same computer and did an apt-get update before running the command
[21:07] <Dr_willis> That just worked here for me on these 2 machines.
[21:08] <Dr_willis> I have some scripts/alias's for those complex command lines also. makes it easier
[21:08] <vit_> español
[21:08] <Dr_willis> !es | Vincent_k
[21:08] <ubotu> Vincent_k: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:08] <vit_> nadie habla espanñol
[21:08] <Dr_willis> oops sorry Vincent_k  :)
[21:08] <mani213> how do i install drivers?
[21:08] <mani213> on kubuntu
[21:08] <ardchoille> mani213: drivers for what?
[21:08] <mani213> liek a .run file
[21:08] <Dr_willis> mani213,  depends on what they are for, and where/what you downlaoded
[21:08] <Dr_willis> you RUN a run file. :)
[21:08] <k4ever> Dr_willis:  ok, --assume-yes worked
[21:08] <Dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.run    then ./whatever.run
[21:09] <ardchoille> mani213: video drivers?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> k4ever,  odd. I havent had touse --asume-yes befor now.. wonder why
[21:09] <mani213> whats the command "bash <dir> <filename>"?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> bash /path/to/filename.run
[21:09] <Dr_willis> is often used also.
[21:09] <mani213> were do i send it to though?
[21:09] <jhutchins> send it to?
[21:09] <mani213> liek you know how windows u install files in program files
[21:09] <Dr_willis> send? send what? you are runing somthings.
[21:09] <xb0t> my internet crashed could somebody tell me again the command for searching programs pls?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> the installer takes care of that.
[21:10] <ardchoille> !nickspam > diaz1500
[21:10] <Dr_willis> Linux has some very well defined ideas on what things get installed where.
[21:10] <mani213> but if im using the bash /path/to/filename.run command
[21:10] <ardchoille> xb0t: apt-cache search <app name>
[21:10] <mani213> what would i replace to?
[21:10] <jhutchins> mani213: Using a ".run file" to "install drivers" is probably a bad idea.
[21:10] <diaz1500> hello
[21:10] <Dr_willis> mani213,  that runs that command.. thats it.. nothing more or less..
[21:10] <mani213> okay so what would u recommend me installing a ati driver?
[21:10] <ardchoille> mani213: video drivers?
[21:10] <mani213> ye ati
[21:11] <ardchoille> !ati | mani213
[21:11] <Dr_willis> the rest is up to the installer thing in the .run file.
[21:11] <ubotu> mani213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:11] <mani213> !ati
[21:11] <mani213> ?
[21:11] <ardchoille> mani213: The bot already posted it to you
[21:11] <xb0t> ardchoille and to install was
[21:12] <xb0t> sudo apt -get install programname?
[21:12] <mani213> this is instructions for ubuntu
[21:12] <mani213> i need kubuntu
[21:12] <ardchoille> xb0t: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[21:12] <diaz1500> so.. i have a problem.... i cant use kopete...
[21:12] <xb0t> ok thx
[21:12] <jhutchins> xb0t: apt-get or aptitude
[21:12] <xb0t> when i want to install
[21:12] <xb0t> sudo apt -get install wine
[21:12] <xb0t> this error came
[21:12] <xb0t> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:13] <jhutchins> diaz1500: Use pidgin then
[21:13] <ardchoille> mani213: The command line instruction work for kubuntu too
[21:13] <jhutchins> xb0t: Or follow those very clear and direct instructions.
[21:14] <jhutchins> xb0t: Why don't you just do what it says?
[21:14] <diaz1500> but pidgin is not installed in my pc
[21:14] <xb0t> i dont understand this sorry
[21:14] <mani213> so glxinfo |grep is a command?
[21:14] <ardchoille> yes
[21:15] <xb0t> these are my first 30 minutes with linux
[21:15] <ardchoille> jhutchins: xb0t is quite new to Linux
[21:15] <mani213> it says 9500 or higher
[21:15] <mani213> i only have 7200 ati radeon
[21:15] <mani213> :S
[21:15] <mani213> would it still work
[21:15] <jhutchins> xb0t: What part of " you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." troubles you?
[21:16] <xb0t> yeah i made this
[21:16] <xb0t> but it says
[21:16] <jhutchins> xb0t: I don't mean to be unkind, I'm just pushing you forward.
[21:16] <xb0t> i need super rights
[21:16] <jhutchins> !sudo | xb0t
[21:16] <ubotu> xb0t: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[21:16] <jhutchins> !kdesu | xb0t
[21:16] <ubotu> xb0t: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[21:16] <ardchoille> xb0t: Didn't you read the sudo page I gave you earlier?
[21:17] <antonio_> ciao a tutti
[21:17] <jhutchins> xb0t: Those of us who run linux a lot forget the obvious sometimes.
[21:17] <xb0t> the problem is sorry im 14 years and my english is still not so good cause i had it since 2 years in school
[21:17] <xb0t> the most words i dont understand
[21:17] <jhutchins> xb0t: so you would do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:18] <ardchoille> xb0t: What's your native language? Perhaps there's a loco channel which can help you in your language.
[21:18] <xb0t> some words i dont know is there a page with german commands?
[21:18] <jhutchins> xb0t: We will use many words for you so you can learn more!  What's your native language?
[21:18] <xb0t> german or turkish
[21:18] <ardchoille> !de | xb0t
[21:18] <ubotu> xb0t: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:18] <corporeal> ardchoille: botspammer :-p
[21:18] <xb0t> oh thanks
[21:19] <jhutchins> xb0t: Ach, Ich habe fur sex jahre in de schule Deutsch studiert, aber I habe nieman zum mitsprechen, und Ich vergessen zu viel.
[21:19] <xb0t> yes i see u forgot a lot :P
[21:19] <ardchoille> corporeal: If you feel I am wrong, please pm me.
[21:19] <jhutchins> xb0t: Sie sprechen English gut.
[21:20] <xb0t> no my english is still to low talk with other people
[21:20] <xb0t> some things i understand
[21:20] <xb0t> other things i dont
[21:20] <jpatrick> xb0t: sorgen nicht, ich hab das mit Deutsch :)
[21:20] <ardchoille> !en
[21:20] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:20] <jhutchins> xb0t: Anyway:  sudo dpkg --configure -a is what you want.
[21:22] <corporeal> ardchoille: oh i was just messing with you. you have a point... heh.
[21:22] <corporeal> ardchoille: or rather, the bot has a point...
[21:23] <nrg88> hi guys, i know this is not the best place to ask, but how can i contact GNU in refference of theft?
[21:23] <nrg88> like someone rebadging and selling GPL-ed software as proprietary...
[21:24] <niksavel> hey all...
[21:24] <konrad> How long does it (usually) take before the new version of Amarok is availible via aptitude updates?
[21:24] <niksavel> some1 pls help me...   how the hell do I change emerald themes in kubuntu???
[21:24] <niksavel> This fusion thing is new to me... last time I used beryl I had that nice little icon in tray
[21:24] <ardchoille> konrad: Usually once kubuntu is released, we won't get new versions unless it's major bug fixes or security updates
[21:25] <ardchoille> niksavel: support for compiz is in #compiz-fusion
[21:25] <niksavel> thanks
[21:25] <ardchoille> yw
[21:26] <konrad> ardchoille: Ok. Might I be in for a lot of problems later if I download source and compile?
[21:26] <ardchoille> konrad: It's always best to check the repos before compiling anyting. What are you looking for?
[21:26] <ardchoille> konrad: apt-cache search <package name>
[21:27] <jhutchins> xb0t: Do you know about babelfish?
[21:27] <jhutchins> !info amarok
[21:27] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[21:27] <konrad> nrg88: Maybe you can find something here: http://www.fsf.org/
[21:28] <jhutchins> konrad: It should be available soon, only been out a week.
[21:28] <jhutchins> http://seerofsouls often backports it, but it was down yesterday.
[21:28] <nrg88> konrad: thanks
[21:28] <jhutchins> Down today too...
[21:28] <jhutchins> Hey, Hawkwind!
[21:29] <jhutchins> Yer site's down!
[21:29] <Lynoure> nrg88: I'd recommend contacting the developers directly, as they are the rightholders, still.
[21:29] <konrad> ardchoille: I want the new 1.4.8 amarok (fixes bugs with playlists in 1.4.7)
[21:29] <ardchoille> konrad: I don't see a problem with compiling, I;ve done it with no ill effects. But you might wait and see if we get an update. Up to you.
[21:30] <jhutchins> konrad: It'll probably get packaged by next weekend by somebody.
[21:32] <|Dreams|> does anyone know of a ssl capable usenet client for linux please
[21:32] <|Dreams|> !usenet
[21:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:32] <[ka]killer> humm
[21:32] <|Dreams|> !newsreader
[21:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:32] <[ka]killer> how do i restart xserv that is not ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:33] <emilsedgh> [ka]killer: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ?
[21:33] <[ka]killer> thanks
[21:34] <emilsedgh> [ka]killer: did it work?
[21:34] <[ka]killer> im changing something first
[21:34] <jhutchins> |Dreams|: I think pan can use ssl, possibly knode as well.
[21:35] <|Dreams|> i have treid pan butno option for ssl
[21:35] <jhutchins> kdepim does nntp, I think, but that might use knode.
[21:35] <jhutchins> pine works.
[21:35] <jhutchins> again, don't know if they offer ssl though.
[21:36] <Lynoure> |Dreams|: Out of curiousity, which server requires ssl?
[21:36] <|Dreams|> it doesnt require it but i use giganews
[21:36] <|Dreams|> would prefer ssl
[21:37] <|Dreams|> i kno i can use stunnel
[21:37] <|Dreams|> but just wanted an easy job lol
[21:37] <|Dreams|> maybe i shud just stick with alt.binz under wine
[21:39] <|Dreams|> bbs
[21:39]  * |Dreams| is away: Gone away for now.
[21:39] <jhutchins> Sigh.  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html lists 13 linux newsreaders, and he's gonna run something under wine.
[21:40] <jussi01> !away > |Dreams|
[21:41] <[ka]killer> no that did not work
[21:41] <[ka]killer> kdm just shut down and i had to type in the command again to restart it
[21:54] <sparr> libcurl3 installs /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 and /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4, but it doesnt symlink either of them to /usr/lib/libcurl.so, so i cant compile things with "-lcurl"...  whats up with that?
[21:54] <crimsun> ...they shouldn't.
[21:55] <crimsun> that's the job of the appropriate -dev package.
[21:55] <sparr> i happen to disagree...  but thats moot, since there isn't a -dev package
[21:55] <sparr> imho, -dev packages are for headers, not libraries.
[21:55] <crimsun> crimsun@Box:~$ apt-cache showsrc curl|grep ^Bin
[21:55] <crimsun> Binary: curl, libcurl4-openssl-dev, libcurl3-gnutls, libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libcurl3-dbg, libcurl3
[21:56] <sparr> i see no libcurl3*dev
[21:56] <crimsun> there shouldn't be.  There was a transition /away from/ 3.
[21:58] <sparr> ok
[21:58] <sparr> the -dev thing for .so links is weird, but i see that you are correct
[21:59] <DreamCode> amsn has a newly released version but when i use the autopacage it says please check ur internet connection any ideas?
[22:00] <sourcemaker> DreamCode: Have you tried kopete?
[22:00] <DreamCode> yea i dont like it
[22:00] <noaXess> !find pluto
[22:00] <ubotu> File pluto found in logwatch, openswan, strongswan
[22:01] <Behemot> Hey
[22:01] <Behemot> !alsamixer
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <Behemot> !alsa
[22:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:02] <Behemot> !nvidia
[22:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:04] <josua> hey guys
[22:13] <Dr_willis_> hmm
[22:14] <Behemot> !alsamixer
[22:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:15] <limac> !alsa
[22:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:16] <jhutchins> Behemot: Did you need something, or are you just playing with the bot?
[22:17] <Behemot> jhutchins: a little bit of both :)
[22:17] <mani213> whats the program called that gives you that apple osx dock ?
[22:17] <mani213> kdkool?
[22:17] <Dr_willis_> thers several of them mani213  and they are alike in that they all suck, :)
[22:18] <mani213> so which ones the best one
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> Thus they are as good as the actual OS-X dock. :)
[22:18] <mani213> name one good one i guess
[22:18] <mani213> :S
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> !find dock
[22:18] <ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[22:18] <mani213> i wana try it
[22:18] <mani213> thanks
[22:18] <mani213> there all usless?
[22:18] <Dr_willis_> fire  Up the package manager and searh for 'dock'  i guess. :)
[22:18] <mani213> not as good as apple is it?
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> I found them to either have HUGE bugs, or be so useless. other then as eye andy.. i perfer the panel
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> I dont like apples dock either.
[22:19] <mani213> ye i guess your right
[22:19] <mani213> i just hate windows vista
[22:19] <Dr_willis_> Take a simple idea and add so much extras.. it cant do the original job right. :)
[22:20] <jatos> mani213: that makes two of us
[22:20] <Dr_willis_> You may want to check out katapult also. hit alt-space
[22:20] <mani213> i had it installed few days back pissed me off and at the same time i got the kubuntu cd dilivered
[22:20] <jatos> I seen on my friends computers, its ghastly
[22:21] <mani213> there soo many bugs are vista you cant even fix em
[22:21] <jatos> and it takes loads of searching to get to a command prompt
[22:21] <mani213> atleast for kubuntu you can play around with it
[22:21] <Dr_willis_> using vista right now.. I have no real issues with it.. Now that i turned off that idiotic uac. and the eyecandy is about as useless as can be..
[22:21] <mani213> lolz
[22:21] <mani213> i just installed xo home
[22:21] <mani213> xp*
[22:21] <mani213> for back up
[22:21] <mani213> and kubuntu 7.10
[22:21] <mani213> with is amazing
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> To get command prompt in vista.. enter 'cmd' in the 'start search' entry box. :)
[22:22] <mani213> lolzz
[22:22] <mani213> ye thats is i use windows now
[22:22] <mani213> if*
[22:22] <Dr_willis_> Getting where the default gnome and kde setups are hiding THEIR terminal  icons more  and more
[22:23] <mani213> theres enough bugs with compiz to
[22:23] <mani213> but atleast theres fixes for it
[22:23] <Dr_willis_> Best fix for compiz = turn it off. :)
[22:23] <mani213> naw but compiz brings the best out of linux
[22:23] <mani213> well kind of for me
[22:23] <mani213> i had to get it cause of the cube
[22:24] <mani213> the compiz fusion
[22:24] <Dr_willis_> I have the opposite approace.. compiz cutters up the 'best of linux'
[22:24] <biovore> same
[22:24] <Dr_willis_> and i find the cube expecially useless.
[22:24] <Dr_willis_> now the ZOOM feature - is handy.
[22:24] <biovore> compviz makes linux run like crap
[22:24] <Dr_willis_> and the show 'thumbnails' in the panel is handy
[22:24] <mani213> the jellow effect
[22:24] <mani213> when u move your window
[22:24] <mani213> thats not to bad
[22:24] <Behemot> What is the command for changing sound card chip in alsa mixer?
[22:25] <Dr_willis_> The wiggly windows = Pure gratituisy eye candy.. adds nothing to getting actual work done. :)
[22:25] <mani213> lol
[22:25] <Dr_willis_> Eyecandy causes Ocular Cavaties
[22:25] <mani213> just gives you a better reason to pick linux in the grub section
[22:25] <mani213> lolz
[22:26] <Dr_willis_> I will be glad in a year or so from now when people have gotten into the next gimmic.. and given up on that silly cube
[22:26] <Dr_willis_> Gotta love computing fads and trends
[22:27] <mani213> kubuntu can eb confusin at some times though
[22:27] <mani213> cause im not aware of all the commands that i type in shell or konsole
[22:28] <jatos> anyone here ever tryed QNX?
[22:28] <mani213> how do you get all that weather docks etc etc etc
[22:29] <Behemot> !alsaconf
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <biovore> QNX.. isn't that a RTOS..
[22:32] <Behemot> !wow
[22:32] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[22:32] <jnp3134> does anybody know how to set the default sound card in kubuntu and make it stick (I've already tried asoundconf set-default-card Intel)?
[22:33] <jnp3134> I have 2 sound cards and want the default to be my onboard sound
[22:35] <noaXess> does anybody use ipsec/vpn? i don't know exactly what tp use..
[22:35] <noaXess> to use..
[22:37] <MGrunde> Anyone else having trouble with openoffice in Hardy?
[22:40] <MGrunde> jnp:  I know there's a way, but I've always just blacklisted the module for my secondary sound card.
[22:41] <Behemot> jnp3134: asoundconf list   gives you 2 sound cards?
[22:41] <jnp3134> Behemot: Yes - Mia and Intel
[22:42] <Behemot> jnp3134: You want to use Intel?
[22:42] <jnp3134> Yes
[22:42] <Behemot> jnp3134: asoundconf set-default-card Intel
[22:43] <jnp3134> Behemot: I've tried that, but it doesn't seem to work (specifically, it doesn't change the default in Amarok)
[22:44] <Behemot> does it change it in Alsamixer?
[22:44] <jnp3134> Behemot: I am able to use both sound cards successfully (in Audacity), but I can't set the default for some reason
[22:45] <jnp3134> Behemot: I get this when I try to run alsamixer: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"
[22:45] <jnp3134> It's as if there is no default specified
[22:46] <Behemot> jnp3134: that is weird
[22:46] <Behemot> jnp3134: tried setting Mia as default and run alsamixer?
[22:46] <jnp3134> ok
[22:47] <jnp3134> Behemot: I get the same error after executing asoundconf set-default-card Mia
[22:48] <Behemot> jnp3134: try asoundconf reset-default-card
[22:49] <BluesKaj> the name of the souncard should be in quotes if there are spaces in the name
[22:50] <jnp3134> Behemot: still no change.  I tried running it both with KMix Running and with it shut down
[22:50] <BluesKaj> or try the name in quotes anyway
[22:50] <jnp3134> Blueskaj: I'll try it with quotes to see if it makes a difference
[22:53] <roby> ciao
[22:53] <roby> fg
[22:54] <BluesKaj> !it | roby
[22:54] <ubotu> roby: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:54] <jnp3134> Blueskaj: No luck putting the sound card name in quotes
[22:55] <roby> salve
[22:56] <jnp3134> Behemot or Blueskaj: are you aware of any file that I could manually edit in order to specify the default sound card?
[22:56] <BluesKaj> jnp3134, try this to find the right name of your soundcards : cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:57] <jnp3134> BluesKaj: here is the output:
[22:57] <jnp3134> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:57] <jnp3134>  0 [Mia            ]: Echo_Mia - Mia
[22:57] <jnp3134>                       Mia rev.0 (DSP56361) at 0xdce00000 irq 18
[22:57] <jnp3134>  1 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[22:57] <jnp3134>                       HDA Intel at 0xdffdc000 irq 16
[22:57] <roby> ciao
[22:57] <ardchoille> !pastebin | jnp3134
[22:57] <ubotu> jnp3134: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:59] <BluesKaj> jnp3134,   asoundconf set-default-card "HDA Intel" , doesn't work eh ?
[22:59] <roby> salve ragazzi
[23:00] <ardchoille> !it | roby
[23:00] <ubotu> roby: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:03] <jnp3134> BluesKaj: Nope - asoundconf set-default-card "HDA Intel" doesn't seem to have an effect either
[23:03] <berto> italiano? inglese? :)
[23:04] <ardchoille> !it | berto
[23:04] <ubotu> berto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:04] <berto> grazie tanks
[23:05] <liquidengineer> Hello?
[23:05] <liquidengineer> How is everyone today?
[23:05] <ardchoille> hi liquidengineer
[23:06] <liquidengineer> I'm having a problem getting my ubuntu to broadcast its hostname
[23:06] <liquidengineer> I just edited dhclient.conf and set the following two lines 1) send host-name "hostname"; and 2) send dhcp-client-identifier MAC_ADDR; .  Now my router sees it's client ID as the mac address without colons, and not the hostname
[23:06] <liquidengineer> What am I doing wrong?
[23:06] <ardchoille> liquidengineer: Ubuntu? You should be in #ubuntu.
[23:07] <liquidengineer> ardchoille: It's a bit busy in there...I can't seem to get anyone's attention, and I figured (perhaps incorrectly) kubuntu used the same network underpinnings, especially since I"m working in the terminal
[23:07] <liquidengineer> I'm just editing dhclient.conf and using dhclient to refresh
[23:07] <ardchoille> liquidengineer: For the proper help, you should be in the proper channel, and for your that's #ubuntu
[23:08] <testablu> some one link me the italian room? ty...
[23:08] <liquidengineer> ardchoille: Well, yes.  Thing is, I've been trying to get someone's attention for the past 40 minutes and failing, so I thought i'd try here.  You're right, though.  Sorry. :)
[23:08] <andreas> hey i have a problem
[23:09] <andreas> i try to send a file from my pc to my account on a server
[23:09] <andreas> i use dolphin to browse my files
[23:09] <andreas> and when i click "move here"
[23:09] <andreas> for my file to go to the other server
[23:09] <jnp3134> BluesKaj: thanks for the help - I have to go for now.  Hopefully you gave me enough to find a solution
[23:09] <ardchoille> liquidengineer: No problem, I just didn't want any subtle difference between the two releases to cause you problems with bad advice
[23:10] <andreas> it says that i don't have write permissions
[23:10] <testablu> chi mi linka la stanza in italiano?
[23:10] <ardchoille> !it | testablu
[23:10] <ubotu> testablu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:10] <andreas> i think i have to do this as root but how can i do that?
[23:10] <ardchoille> !sudo
[23:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:11] <ardchoille> andreas: You mean run dolphin as root?
[23:11] <andreas> yeah
[23:11] <andreas> how can i do that?
[23:11] <ardchoille> !kdesudo | andreas
[23:11] <ubotu> andreas: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:11] <andreas> ok thx i 'll try it and come back
[23:12] <noaXess> !nvidia
[23:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:12] <andreas> yeah but now that i run it as root
[23:13] <andreas> i can't see my files
[23:13] <andreas> and the server is not on my networks as before
[23:13] <andreas> i don't see my files when i go to home
[23:14] <ardchoille> andreas: That's because root's $HOME is not the same as user's $HOME
[23:14] <ardchoille> andreas: Your normal user and root are two different users with two different sets of files.
[23:14] <andreas> then what do i do now?
[23:15] <andreas> i can find the files of andreas
[23:15] <andreas> but i can't find the network i want to login
[23:15] <ardchoille> andreas: In dolphin, go to the folder which holds the files you want to work with
[23:15] <andreas> i did it
[23:15] <andreas> but in remote places
[23:15] <ardchoille> /home/andreas  ?
[23:15] <andreas> yeah
[23:15] <uchimata> how can i change my default file manager from Dolphin to konqueror
[23:15] <ardchoille> !dolphin | uchimata
[23:15] <ubotu> uchimata: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[23:16] <uchimata> thanks adrchoille
[23:16] <andreas> ardchoille: do you see where my problem is?
[23:17] <andreas> root's remote places are not the same as andreas' remote places
[23:17] <andreas> and i  want andreas' remote places
[23:17] <ardchoille> andreas: Right, so you would have to set up the remote places for root, right?
[23:17] <andreas> yeah
[23:18] <andreas> anyway i'll try late
[23:18] <andreas> r
[23:18] <andreas> thx anyways
[23:22] <iceman_> flash drive won't mount
[23:25] <Joelito> anyone here tryied the kdeartwork package?
[23:26] <ardchoille> Joelito: I have it installed
[23:26] <Joelito> ardchoille: Do you know the name of the binary
[23:26] <comedit> I need to mount (force) a external harddisk wich is wrongly shutdown last time
[23:26] <comedit> what is wrong with this command  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdh1 /media/lacie force
[23:27] <Joelito> ardchoille: I install it via sypnatic and doesn't appear in the menu of kde :(
[23:27] <ardchoille> Joelito: It's not really a binary, it's themes, styles and such
[23:27] <comedit> I can't figure it out
[23:28] <ardchoille> Joelito: It won't appear in the menu, it installs themes, styles, wallpapers, etc. Check your settings for things like that
[23:28] <ardchoille> comedit: What is the error you are getting?
[23:28] <Joelito> oh, yeah, see there's a link
[23:29] <Joelito> and send me to a webpage
[23:29] <Joelito> I was hoping that will be the same as art work from gnome :)
[23:29] <ardchoille> Joelito: Ah, more kde artwork can be found at  http://www.kde-look.org
[23:30] <Joelito> thanks :)
[23:30] <|Dreams|> help! lol
[23:31] <|Dreams|> can anyone help.. when i extract a video file form a rar file .. it wont play but when i restart kubuntu the file works :S
[23:32] <comedit> dolphin does not mount this device How can I force the mount I have tried this :  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdh1 /media/lacie force but it doesn't work
[23:33] <comedit> anybody a clue
[23:33] <itsjustme> text command to get the main taskbar back
[23:34] <itsjustme> autohide the taskbar and cant get it back now
[23:35] <|Dreams|> is it a bug should i report it?
[23:38] <comedit> dolphin does not mount this device How can I force the mount I have tried this : sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdh1 /media/lacie force but it doesn't work
[23:39] <|Dreams|> why dont u use konquerer?
[23:39] <comedit> I will give it a try now
[23:40] <itsjustme> cant find the taskbar after autohide... how do I get it back?
[23:40] <comedit> konquerer: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[23:41] <comedit> same error ofcourse
[23:41] <ardchoille> itsjustme: Does the panel unhide when you move your mouse to the screen edge?
[23:41] <itsjustme> no
[23:41] <itsjustme> there is a key combonation that will bring it back and I dont know it
[23:42] <readyx> when i insert a second pci-x gfx card, am i able to connect 4 screens then? and use twinview with 4 screens?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> mine auto hides after 3 sec. then shows up when i put the pointer at the bottom of the screen
[23:42] <Dr_willis> readyx,  you got 2 nvidia cards?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> and a HUGE desk. :)
[23:43] <itsjustme> Hi Dr_willis.. Unfortunetly still unable to get sound...
[23:43] <Dr_willis> with 2 nvidia cards - you should be able to do it.  I got plenty of space with 2 monitoprs.. i cant imagine using 4
[23:43] <readyx> currently i have one geforce 7300le and 2 tft's connected
[23:43] <readyx> and i have a huge desk :)
[23:43] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  Yep. theres some new audio chipsets out - that are not spported well under linux yet.
[23:44] <comedit> sow still the same question  whats wrong with this : sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdh1 /media/lacie force
[23:44] <readyx> 4 meters hehe
[23:44] <readyx> i want to buy a second nvidia with 2x dvi out
[23:44] <Dr_willis> Heck the only thing i keep on Monitor #2 is a konsole or 2 and some panels with buttons.
[23:44] <Dr_willis> Be sure ya Power supply can take it. :)
[23:46] <readyx> i have vmware/win, eclipse, firefox, xchat and want each on seperate screen
[23:46] <readyx> as console i use yakuake.. thats a very cool one
[23:46] <ardchoille> itsjustme: You got a terminal open?
[23:47] <ardchoille> itsjustme: alt+f2 and type in: dcop kicker kicker showTaskBarConfig
[23:47] <ardchoille> itsjustme: That will bring up the kicker config so you can unhide it
[23:48] <itsjustme> THX  thats what I was looking for
[23:48] <ardchoille> yw
[23:50] <dorkface> Hi all.  I'm currently trying to get ssh to work on my recently assembled personal server.  So far I have tried using a point-to-point connection using a crossover, disabling ip tables, and generating a key as means of solving the issue, but all have resulted in a refused connection.  Any suggestions?
[23:50] <Joelito> ok, I downloaded a theme for kde, but doesn't appear in the list
[23:50] <Joelito> any tip?
[23:50] <ardchoille> Joelito: Where did you put the theme and what type of theme is it?
[23:50] <Joelito> or mayne I
[23:51] <ardchoille> Joelito: What's the url of the theme?
[23:51] <Joelito> ok, is my documents
[23:51] <Joelito> this is the url_ http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Grey+Matrix?content=1529
[23:54] <ardchoille> Joelito: unpack the theme and read greymatrix.txt? That file has install instructions.
[23:54] <Eds> Can anyone tell me why after I installed Kubuntu Gutsy it thought I had fiesty installed and wanted to upgrade?
[23:55] <Joelito> ardchoille: I'll try
[23:55] <ardchoille> Joelito: in a terminal, cd to the folder where the theme is and do: tar xf 1529-greymatrix.tgz
[23:57] <Joelito> ardchoille any special command to run install.sh?
[23:57] <ardchoille> Joelito: There is no install.sh, read the .txt file
[23:57] <DarkTan_> !compiz
[23:57] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:59] <DarkTan_> ! kwin
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:59] <DarkTan_> !find kwin
[23:59] <ubotu> Found: kwin, kwin-style-crystal, kwin4, kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube (and 6 others)