[03:44] <sparr> what's the story with hardy and kde?
[03:46] <Amaranth> sparr: No LTS
[03:46] <Amaranth> sparr: Kubuntu will be a regular release
[03:46] <Amaranth> and have 3.5 and 4.0 flavors
[03:46] <sparr> 3.5 or 4.0?
[03:46] <sparr> ahh
[03:46] <sparr> u r too fast  :)
[03:46] <sparr> will the 3.5 version default to dolphin or konqueror?
[03:46] <Amaranth> 3.5 probably won't be supported upstream long enough and 4.0 is too new for canonical to be willing to support
[03:47] <Amaranth> it uses dolphin now so i'm assuming that'll stay
[03:47] <Amaranth> sounds like they're not going to do a whole lot with the 3.5 version
[03:47] <Amaranth> it'll mostly just be gutsy + version upgrades
[03:47] <sparr> ive been told that dolphin in 4.0 is very different than dolphin in 3.5?
[03:48] <sparr> i cant give kubuntu gutsy discs to friends because of dolphin
[03:49] <awen_> sparr: you can easily change from dolphin to konqueror... that's what i did
[03:50] <sparr> awen_: *I* can, but konq being missing on the livecd severely degrades the user experience im trying to show people that i give the CDs to
[03:51] <awen_> sparr: konqueror is on the live-cd ... just not being used as default file manager
[03:51] <sparr> which means people wont see it
[03:52] <sparr> the power of konqueror is part of what i tout about kde/kubuntu to friends using mac/windows
[03:52] <sparr> having to add a "but youll have to use a non-default program" caveat to my gifts defeats the purpose
[03:52] <Amaranth> the 'power' of konq is what it's not the default :)
[03:52] <Amaranth> err, why
[03:53] <Amaranth> dolphin, by targeting just file manager, is basically by default better
[03:53] <Amaranth> konq may be more powerful but dolphin is easier and more streamlined
[03:53] <sparr> better in what way?
[03:54] <sparr> i agree that by being just a file manager it COULD be better
[03:54] <sparr> but its not
[03:54] <sparr> so many of the features i rely on in konqueror are missing
[03:54] <sparr> in the 10 minutes that i used dolphin before figuring out how to switch back, i was taken aback by the lack of tabs and file size view
[03:55] <_sojourner> I agree with sparr knoq should be default and dolphin the option
[04:45] <hydrogen> well
[04:45] <hydrogen> its about
[04:45] <hydrogen> three or four months
[04:45] <hydrogen> too late to change it
[04:45] <hydrogen> oh
[04:45] <hydrogen> this is +1
[04:45] <hydrogen> missed that
[04:46] <hydrogen> and
[04:46] <hydrogen> an hour behind :)
[04:46] <crdlb> !enter
[04:46] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:47] <hydrogen> its not punctionation
[04:47] <hydrogen> its emphasis
[04:47] <crdlb> -_-
[04:47] <hydrogen> !weird emoticons that take up space in a technical channel
[04:47] <hydrogen> :/
[04:47] <hydrogen> I tried!
[08:20] <riri> hi
[08:20] <riri> i can 't install kde4 on kubuntu hardy 32 bits ?
[08:20] <riri> most of them are broken
[08:21] <riri> is there a solution ?
[10:44] <dahitokiri> so i take it hardy is in beta right now?
[10:44] <crdlb> no
[10:44] <crdlb> it's in alpha
[10:45] <Nicke> dahitokiri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[10:45] <crdlb> the beta doesn't come out until ~one month before release
[10:45] <dahitokiri> weird. some projects are actually starting to roll packages for it
[10:47] <dr_evil> has anyone been successful in using Truecrypt with hardy? I compiled it, and it's able to create volume files. but trying to mount a file, it will hang after entering the passphrase, and not mount int
[10:55] <amikrop> Is it recommended to have "proposed" (if not "backports") enabled?
[13:31] <matteo_2504> my kubuntu hardy not same with screenshot in www.kubuntu.com
[13:31] <matteo_2504> why?
[13:33] <rsk> cause that's not hardy afaik
[13:33] <matteo_2504> ????
[13:35] <dr_evil> Hardy is alpha
[13:56] <ActySofts> hello everyone
[13:56] <rsk> hey
[13:56] <ActySofts> is there a consideration to include oss in hoardy as a package?
[13:57] <ActySofts> since it's not under GPL, it's ok
[13:57] <rsk> i do not think so
[13:57] <ActySofts> *now
[13:57] <rsk> alsa has more support for cards i think
[13:58] <ActySofts> not really, sometimes alsa doesn't work at all while oss runs with no problems
[13:58] <ActySofts> for example, alsa has problems with mixing on my card
[13:58] <ActySofts> while on oss it works fine (but there's no alsa emulation, so some cool apps won't work)
[13:59] <rsk> yes oss works better in some cases
[13:59] <rsk> but alsa in more
[13:59] <rsk> but sure, file a bug wanting it for inclusion
[13:59] <ActySofts> ok
[16:04] <thompa> anyone know how i can clean double repository entries
[16:04] <PC-Ente> hi
[16:05] <thompa> other than going through them one by one
[16:05] <PC-Ente> when does ubuntu hardy get the new pidgin in the sources... ?
[16:06] <thompa> well my repos are all messed up, im going to copy off the cd
[16:27] <geser> PC-Ente: as the devs are now on vacation not before the next year
[17:05] <TheFuzzball> Hi guys, I have a serious display problem in Kubuntu Hardy
[17:06] <TheFuzzball> I've updated to latest but I am getting lines in kicker and amarok
[17:11] <TheFuzzball> http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/TheFuzzball/snapshot1.png
[17:11] <TheFuzzball> here is a screeny
[17:12] <Artimus> TheFuzzball: Yuck
[17:13] <Artimus> TheFuzzball: Has it always done that?
[17:13] <Artimus> (In Hardy)
[17:13] <Artimus> I'd hope that it's an incompatible theme.
[17:14] <TheFuzzball> only since I upgraded today
[17:14] <TheFuzzball> it may be display drivers
[17:15] <TheFuzzball> is there a fix?
[17:15] <Artimus> You upgraded to Hardy?  Or when you applied the latest updates?
[17:15] <TheFuzzball> when I upgraded from gutsy
[17:16] <Artimus> ...  My Hardy install isn't doing so well...  My caps and scroll lock keys are flashing.  Bummer
[17:16] <TheFuzzball> lol
[17:16] <Artimus> Black screen, etc
[17:16] <Artimus> I feel bad about hard power cycling, even if it's done in VMware
[17:17] <TheFuzzball> hmm
[17:17] <TheFuzzball> I only upgraded from Gutsy cause' whenever I closed my laptop lid the screen went black and didn't return
[17:17] <Artimus> Try changing your theme settings.
[17:18] <TheFuzzball> I have
[17:18] <TheFuzzball> It is still doing it
[17:18] <Artimus> Maybe try creating a new user account
[17:18] <TheFuzzball> why?
[17:18] <Artimus> Because those will have a fresh set of settings
[17:18] <TheFuzzball> yehh
[17:18] <TheFuzzball> I may aswell copy my .kde to tmp
[17:19] <Artimus> Why?
[17:19] <Artimus> Just add a new user account
[17:19] <TheFuzzball> fresh settings
[17:19] <Artimus> And login with that
[17:19] <Artimus> sudo adduser NEWNAME
[17:19] <TheFuzzball> I just did
[17:19] <TheFuzzball> brb