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| lapo | hi | 14:47 |
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| kwwii | hi all, /me is online for a few minutes if you need anything important | 21:02 |
| thorwil | kwwii: well ... hab' nen guten rutsch! ;) | 21:03 |
| thorwil | good night! | 21:03 |
| troy_s | kwwii: wb. | 21:13 |
| kwwii | oops, I missed thorwil ;-( | 21:16 |
| kwwii | hi troy_s | 21:16 |
| * kwwii is sitting in a cafe reading emails :p | 21:16 | |
| kwwii | troy_s: I posted a link with some color ideas, check it out and let me know what you think | 21:17 |
| troy_s | kwwii: I think the palette unto itself is beyond expectation. | 21:17 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Still facing the rather bold task of breaching the wall of 'we cannot connote any concept' to Voldemort. | 21:18 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Great palette for a number of earthy concepts though. | 21:18 |
| kwwii | yeah, I cannot wait to hear his response | 21:18 |
| kwwii | also, I tried defining the audience, I am more worried that it will never ever be accepted | 21:18 |
| troy_s | kwwii: My gut says that you should probably only bother with the basic fundamental anchor tones. Less is more. | 21:18 |
| troy_s | (otherwise we can imagine the result) | 21:19 |
| kwwii | I was also worried that it would be too many colors | 21:19 |
| troy_s | kwwii: It probably wont. The reality is that we need something far better than 'everyone' though. And hell, I would love to see people design a little more 'gender neutral' stuffs -- it is pretty heavy on the masculine side of things for a good chunk of it. | 21:19 |
| kwwii | I think I will reduce the number of shades of each color and add another compliment | 21:20 |
| troy_s | kwwii: I think the hues are very realistic in numbers -- adding the value shifts is great for a 'working palette' but it scares me the folks who will inevitably take darkest x and mix with lightest y. | 21:20 |
| troy_s | kwwii: but as damian said so astutely, palette alone is rather worthless. | 21:20 |
| kwwii | I was thinking about the feminine aspect just yesterday, that is very hard for a male without a lot of experience to pin down I htink | 21:20 |
| troy_s | mandatory at some point, but worthless at our juncture. | 21:20 |
| kwwii | right | 21:20 |
| troy_s | kwwii: I don't mean cliched femininity but | 21:21 |
| troy_s | just 'less masculine' i guess would be the best thing I could describe it as. | 21:21 |
| troy_s | for a default | 21:21 |
| kwwii | I doubt that we will get anything usefull out of this process for hardy anyway | 21:21 |
| kwwii | but if we take the right first steps perhaps that will make the next cycle easier | 21:22 |
| troy_s | smart money is on taking elephant sources, build a very slim minimalist gdm | 21:22 |
| troy_s | use elephant as base | 21:22 |
| kwwii | or at least learn what we screwed up on this time around :p | 21:22 |
| kwwii | yeah, elephant is already in as default, right? | 21:22 |
| troy_s | it isn't a 'shocker', it has been seen by a number, has the greatest support of any of the 'default' stuffs. | 21:22 |
| kwwii | sommerville said he got that done at least | 21:22 |
| troy_s | well it is in the additionals | 21:22 |
| troy_s | we still have vista. | 21:22 |
| troy_s | oh -- hardy? | 21:23 |
| kwwii | erm, it should be in as default for hardy now | 21:23 |
| troy_s | i will say having installed on two laptops (and thinking about defaults) elephant reads pretty dark on the lower powered lcds. | 21:23 |
| troy_s | but again, that heads into bikeshed. | 21:23 |
| troy_s | (and you would probably need to get that naff orange into something that works a little more in tandem with elephant.) | 21:24 |
| kwwii | right | 21:24 |
| kwwii | it is a good start to show diretion though | 21:24 |
| kwwii | for hardy we will not change things radically so we can really test this process out | 21:25 |
| kwwii | well, I am heading back off to my mom's house now | 21:25 |
| kwwii | probably be back online sometime tomorrow again | 21:25 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Before you jet. | 21:27 |
| troy_s | kwwii: GDM I know is a sticky issue with our 'marketing' experts out there (nameless) | 21:27 |
| troy_s | kwwii: I wonder if it would be possible (if elephant is base wallpaper) to put an extremely subtle fade from centre opaque to _subtle_ elephant texture vignetting the GDM screen. | 21:28 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Follow? | 21:28 |
| troy_s | kwwii: It would at least provide a little visual motif echo. | 21:28 |
| troy_s | (and extremely subtle otherwise the army of voices would probably storm the castle) | 21:29 |
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