[00:00] awen_: i think it should be =) [00:01] only if it is not references [00:01] because a new package was there [00:01] awen_: are you checking that in hardy ? =) [00:01] Kmos: i thought so too... and yes i'm checking it in hardy :) [00:02] libapache-mod-fastcgi [00:03] anyone here bored enough to review some package ? [00:03] hello motu's by the way :) [00:03] I'm on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unicorn/+bug/945 [00:03] Launchpad bug 945 in unicorn "module-assistant fails to compile unicorn-source" [Low,In progress] [00:03] rz1: today? don't think so =) === rz1 is now known as Rz1 [00:04] maybe on monday [00:04] no problem [00:04] seems the sparc and powerpc builds still have problems with chroot... suspect it could be the reason? [00:04] awen_: it says CHROOT WAIT ? [00:05] that ones will be given back automatically [00:06] Kmos: seems the build have failed on those two platforms... but should it manually be started again? [00:07] "Status: Chroot problem" ... but seems that the log is from 25 dec [00:10] awen_: only yesterday the buildd machines are fixed.. so this will be fixed next week [00:10] awen_: check the current build log.. [00:11] what's the package ? [00:11] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhel [00:11] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/package_name_here [00:11] Kmos: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache-mod-fastcgi [00:11] can one be sure a package doesn't exist in universe if nothing shows up when searching packages.ubuntu.com (any distribution)? [00:12] failed on sparc and powerpc due to chroot problem [00:12] but i should probably just wait for next week then and see then :) [00:29] * jonnymind is away: o-furo! [01:18] Ng: syncing REVU keyring now. Takes about 40 minutes [01:18] pochu: Are you really sure Section: python is everything interesting? [01:18] pochu: U-U-S doesn't process raw patches (although some of the members do) [01:19] Good morning, persia :-) [01:19] I’m about to go to sleep. [01:19] Good morning ion_ :) [01:39] Ng: keyring sync completed (faster than expected). You may upload at your leisure. [02:04] hey guys. [02:04] whats the average time between uploading a package to revu and getting some feedback on it? [02:05] jscinoz: poke people to get feedback otherwise it might take forever [02:05] jscinoz: Feedback when it's not REVU day is rare and to be appreciated. [02:05] revu day? [02:06] The last REVU day (24th December) was cancelled due to hardware issues. The next is 31st December, but attendance is expected to be light due to New Years celebrations. [02:06] ah [02:06] is there a page somewhere with more details about this? [02:07] jscinoz: Every Monday is REVU day, when the reviewers and packagers commit to spending some time on REVU. The rest of the week tends to be pretty quiet. Also, there are no REVU days held between Feature Freeze and the following Developer Summit, as the focus is on bugfixing and determining the goals for the next release. [02:07] !revu [02:07] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [02:08] ah thank you :) [02:08] jscinoz: Apparently not. I don't see any mention of REVU days on the REVU wiki page. As CheGuevara said, if you've just uploaded or updated a package, and would like to request a look, asking here is welcome (but please limit to once a day when it's not REVU day) [02:09] Anyone have wx2.4 installed atm? [02:09] wow thats old :P [02:09] Well at least 4 packages still build-dep on it [02:10] bddebian: I can install it. What do you need? [02:10] I just want to know what wx-config --libs puts out in 2.4 [02:11] I uploaded three packages back on the eighth of december, all related to the GPL version of the urban terror game, packages are "urbanterror" "urbanterror-data" and "urbanterror-server" these are the first packages i've built so if anyone would like to give me some feedback it'd be greatly appreciated :) [02:11] jscinoz: You should have received feedback on those already. Sorry about the delay: if nobody else hits them in the next 8 hours, I'll hit them first at the beginning of REVU day. [02:13] thanks :) [02:17] bddebian: -pthread -lwx_gtk-2.4 (both hardy & sid) [02:17] persia: Thank you sir [02:18] Hmm, interesting. wx-config --libs on 2.6 gives: [02:18] -pthread -lwx_gtk2u_xrc-2.6 -lwx_gtk2u_qa-2.6 -lwx_gtk2u_html-2.6 -lwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6 -lwx_gtk2u_core-2.6 -lwx_baseu_xml-2.6 -lwx_baseu_net-2.6 -lwx_baseu-2.6 [02:18] bddebian: Did I maybe miss something from `wx2.4-doc wx2.4-examples wx2.4-headers wx2.4-i18n python-wxgtk2.4 libwxgtk2.4-dev libwxgtk2.4-contrib-dev libwxbase2.4-dev` ? [02:22] Hmm, maybe a better question is where the fsck are those libs supposed to be? Hmm [02:23] bddebian: I'd really like to see "-bash: wx-config: command not found" as the output of `wx-config --libs` with 2.6 and 2.8 missing. [02:24] * StevenK sighs. [02:24] I think my local shopping centre is having a "Jerk Day", because it was full of them [02:25] ls [02:25] total 0 [02:25] hehe [02:25] lol [02:25] bddebian: Do you happen to have your jugglemaster patch somewhere other than an inline email? [02:26] surely, every day is Jerk Day at a shopping center? [02:26] persia: Hmm, it shouldn't have been inline [02:26] persia: Give me a sec [02:26] bddebian: Maybe it's just my broken mail client :) Thanks. [02:27] slangasek: Today seemed much worse. Like the lady who stood in the middle of the carpark aisle with a full trolley on her cell phone. It took her at least a full minute to realise I was waiting for her since I couldn't get around her [02:28] why didn't you poke her :P [02:28] Since I was driving [02:28] ah :P [02:30] persia: http://www.bddebian.com/packages/debian/jugglemaster/ There's also a source package there if you just want to grab and build that instead. (Though it's not "dpatch'd" properly it's just straight source modified. [02:30] bddebian: Thanks. I'll pull the patch :) [02:31] bddebian: Apply after the other patches, or before? [02:32] persia: Apply it last [02:44] persia: newpki-client isn't being as "easy" as jugglemaster :-( [02:45] bddebian: Nope. I'm really tempted to drop newpki-client completely, but haven't found a good reference for an alternate CA repo. Maybe we keep newpki-server, and just drop the client (as was done for plucker)? [02:47] persia: I talked to the maintainer. There are some users but upstream is pretty dead :-( [02:48] Rather, upstream is completely dead. [02:48] From what I can tell, the client is mostly for testing the server, and we have a few PKI clients in the repositories. On the other hand, I haven't found another server. [02:50] Actually what I'm getting so far seem like simple errors but I can't get through the first one.. :-( [02:51] bddebian: That was my experience. it mixes wx and gettext in strange ways :( [02:52] Of course I haven't really "fixed" jugglemaster either so I don't even know why I'm looking at it. :-( [02:52] bddebian: jugglemaster_0.4-2.dsc FTBFS for me on both sid and hardy :( Any suggestions? [02:54] What type of errors? [02:55] I assume you changed the build-deps? :-) [02:55] /usr/bin/ld: jmdlx.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `JMFrame::sm_eventTable' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC [02:55] I changed build-deps for jugglemaster_0.4-1ubuntu1.dsc, but jugglemaster_0.4-2.dsc is from your site. [02:55] Uhm... [02:56] Hrm [02:56] * persia wonders if we can just unimport jugglemaster... [02:56] It built in my gutsy pbuilder I thought. [02:56] * persia tries with gutsy [02:57] And I know it builds in a sid pbuilder, that's where I've been building it.. WTF [02:57] bddebian: x86_64 most likely [02:58] Ohhh [02:58] I just have a puny little P4 :-) [03:00] bddebian: Yep. Same error. Oddly enough, jugglemaster_0.4-1.dsc seems to work. [03:01] Hmm, might help with my segfault [03:02] But wx-config --ld should be using -fPIC I thought [03:02] wx-config --ld [03:02] g++ -shared -fPIC -o [03:02] bddebian: Shows that way for me. [03:02] #$%@#$^ [03:04] Yep. jugglemaster_0.4-1.dsc just built clean in sid & hardy for me. === bmk789__ is now known as bmk789 [03:20] bddebian: Found it. wx-config --ld uses -fPIC, but previous calls just use g++ -Wall -g -O2 -Wall -fsigned-char `wx-config --cppflags` (-I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.6 -I/usr/include/wx-2.6 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -DNO_GCC_PRAGMA), which likely causes the confusion. [03:26] persia: ugh [03:37] !#179275 [03:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about 179275 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [03:38] bug 179275 [03:38] Launchpad bug 179275 in ampache "Please sync ampache-3.3.3.5-dfsg1-1 from Debian sid main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179275 [03:38] :) [03:39] * persia notes that it's not ideal to join, spit a URL (or pointer to a URL), and leave, even when it's a topical URL. [03:41] * awen_ just came back from being afk... [03:42] persia: Does it run now? ;-) [03:42] tried starting a conversation... but after sending the url i couldn't tab-complete on the name :/ [03:43] bddebian: I'm still trying to learn enough about the linux memory model to understand when it needs -fPIC, and when it doesn't. I doubt I'll understand before your day ends. [03:44] :-) [04:46] * StevenK kicks Rails. [04:47] If I have a bunch of checkboxes checked, please give me all of the values. Preferably as an array [04:53] StevenK: Avoid checkboxes. There's a little helper that makes sure that anything not touched always gets a value sent anyway :) [04:55] when someone notes the key ALT-Gr do they mean the win/apple/super key ? [04:55] but moins all [04:55] err btw [04:56] or is ALT-Gr == ALT ? [04:56] imbrandon: On some keyboards, the right-alt key sends a slightly different symbol (ALT-Gr). Unless your keyboard is odd, you should be able to force it with a keymap. [04:56] ahh ok, waseent sure, just seen it in a tut [04:56] imbrandon: did I say how much I hate kdebindings-kde4? [04:57] nixternal: hahah wanna pass it back? where you at with it, yea i got frustrated too [04:57] python-kde4-dev is being a biznatch [04:57] qyoto was a pita too, i think they all suck and like dont need to be touched unless broken hehe [04:57] I have it building, added qscintilla2 support, have the new cdbs in place, updated rules file, updated control file [04:58] qyoto needs the mono stuff, and seeing as mono is broken in the repos, qyoto will have to wait [04:58] k [04:58] I will zip up the debian/ directory and put on p.uw.com [04:58] kk [04:58] i'll take the torch back, maybe this should be one we put in VCS early [04:58] since its so big [04:58] ( the debian/ ) [04:59] if you want i'll bzr it to ~kubuntu-members ( thats where most others are correct ? ) [05:00] i dont think any of the kde4 stuff is on alioth yet [05:00] http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~nixternal/KDE4/bindings/ [05:00] there you go [05:00] killer [05:00] all of the kde4 stuff is in alioth [05:01] ok well , would you rather me push it to alioth or LP ? [05:01] svn://nixternal-guest@svn.debian.org/pkg-kde/branches/kde4 [05:01] LP [05:01] rockin, ok [05:01] they have just created the kdebindings dir in alioth [05:01] no work to it yet ) [05:02] i guess i should jump bak on oftc, i need to set that to auto in my client [05:02] ya, much easier stealing from debian [05:03] I mean borrowing :) [05:03] lol [05:03] their new fixes to cdbs were a biznatch, but after some tinkering I figured out the work for Kubuntu...so I have added that to the debian tarball already for you [05:04] ahh well when i started it they dident have anything yet, i was on my own [05:04] guess i should check back every few days heh [05:04] the only kicker that I am overlooking is the python-kde4-dev [05:04] it isn't placing anything in debian/tmp [05:04] kk i'll look at that first [05:04] I have the sourcedir set in kde.mk as debian/tmp and everything else is installing it there [05:06] did you get a new snapshot ? [05:07] I tried the new snapshot today, and it is changes to python bindings for the new kdelibs [05:07] otherwise your snapshot was the latest until earlier today [05:07] kk [05:08] i'll just stay with minew for now then [05:08] mine* [05:08] ya, probably won't have to do anything until release day for KDE 4 anyways with it [05:08] once it gets built and what not [05:09] right [05:09] I have to admit, kdebindings is the crappiest thing i have worked with for some odd reason [05:09] well its so many hodge podge stuff in one project [05:09] right now though, it is just some debian/ tweaks honestly..it builds fine [05:10] whatever you do, don't add libqwt5 support...leave that out, because who ever packaged that, needs to be disbarred from computers [05:10] its not like one develop[er or one team even, so coding conventions etc are all out the dor [05:10] door [05:10] ya, everyone pitches in whatever binding they want to add [05:10] and i dident even touch playground/bindings yet [05:10] ugh heh [05:10] oh lord [05:11] ya, definitely ugh in the playground [05:11] keg isn't all that great right now either...I have only been able to build amarok, k3b, and kaudiocreator [05:11] well eventualy i'll get it for phpqt / phpkde , it just hit 1.0 [05:11] if someone in debian doesnt do it first [05:11] seeing if keg/network will build in svn now [05:12] are those bindings in playground? [05:12] yea [05:12] I found a website the other day that was phpqt [05:12] yup [05:12] I love how easy I can whip up a plasmoid with javascript, c++, python (if I knew it) [05:12] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/bindings/phpqt/ [05:13] in like 5 minutes I had a webcam plasmoid up and running [05:13] and like a dumb arse, I blew out ~/kde and not ~/.kde today on my lappy :p [05:13] hehe [05:14] so I had to rebuild kde4 from scratch...it was nice just doing 'svn up && cb && make -j2 VERBOSE=12 && make install' [05:14] i keep most important configs in bzr on my fileserver, but .kde isnt one of them [05:14] only thing in .kde that I backup is mail [05:14] dont you have dualcore [05:14] on my desktop I do [05:14] -j4 :) [05:14] oh, well I am building this on my laptop which is just a cerly m [05:14] celery m [05:15] ahh [05:15] one of these days , i'd like to get a icecream cluster going, likely wont be soon [05:16] I have been trying here [05:16] StevenK: btw apt-mirror is in the PPA for dapper if you havent noticed already [05:16] I can see them so far [05:17] well i have so many diffrent version of OS's runing and each with its own gcc version, dosent make it easy [05:17] * Hobbsee wins. muhahaha [05:17] ya [05:17] i'll have to get some dedicated hardware running for it someday but thats 8+ months away [05:17] * nixternal wonders what GCC is running on Fedora 8 [05:17] Hobbsee: ? [05:17] I see the latest gcc in fl:2-devel for foresight [05:18] wasabi Hobbsee [05:18] imbrandon: scenario of wesnoth. [05:18] hahahahahaha [05:18] imbrandon: a game that i usually tend to suck at [05:18] :) [05:18] you are playing again [05:18] I have gotten addicted to writing plasmoid applets [05:18] leaste it isnt WoW, someone gave me a walmart giftcard and i almost purchased it today /me is glad i dident [05:18] but like a moron, I didn't upload to kdesvn nor did I even back them up locally [05:19] I got the Green PC with my Wal-Mart gift card [05:19] my buddy knows I hate Wal-Mart, yet he gave me one [05:19] they dont have the greenpc here localy yet, they DO have dell's though, i was really supoised [05:19] I was just gonna buy dogfood with it, but I decided to see what they had [05:19] they didn't have them on the shelves at our wal-mart [05:20] but I asked the guy if they were coming in, and he said they had some in the back [05:20] so I got one [05:20] nice [05:20] ya, but it came home DOA [05:20] i probably wont get one, my webserver ( for imbrandon.com ) is the same MB and chip [05:20] I took it back to exchange it, and the store manager told me they aren't even allowed to sell them right now [05:20] so i kinda have one [05:21] I was thinking of picking up the board and cpu from the gos website [05:21] you can get them at microcenter [05:21] for $65 [05:21] add a $20 Gb of cheap ram and it makes a nice web/fileserver [05:21] damn, I keep forgetting I live 10 miles from microcenter [05:22] I live right in between Frys (15 minutes), Tiger Direct (15 minutes), and Micro Center (about 20+ minutes actually) [05:22] I went to Frys to buy the FreeBSD system, but they have been sold out of the damn thing [05:23] http://www.imbrandon.com/phpsysinfo/ [05:23] my via board specs ^^ ( since it runs my website ) [05:24] damn, where did you pickup and old 20gb maxtor from? [05:24] pull from some old PC here, i have tons of old parts arround, new ones are my issue :) [05:24] hehe [05:24] i probably have enough parts for 20 old >1ghz systems [05:24] I need a new heatsink for my dual-core, but I can't find one that I can say "ya, that is the one I want" [05:25] I hate the LGA775 heatsink clips [05:25] brb, let me see if I can boot back into kde 4 w/o implosion [05:27] hrm i guess i only have 512MB Ram in that box, thought i had a GB [05:30] there we go === bigon is now known as bigon` [05:40] nixternal: ahh it seems what ana has in svn is just a stub [05:40] dh_make template [05:40] ya [05:41] hopefully she will attack it soon though [05:41] okies, i was worried aobut dupe offorts [05:41] I would be surprised if she has something local already [05:41] yea i'll ping her later to make sure not [05:41] nixternal: as far as heatsinks go, I just bought this one from newegg and can't say I've ever been happier with a hsf: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200015 [05:42] awalton__: which cpu are you using? [05:42] I have actually found a couple of rosewill's on ebay and amazon that I am watching [05:42] awalton__: how about quiet replacement fans for a 6600gt ? [05:42] core 2 duo 6600 [05:43] groovy [05:43] heh, can't help you with the replacement gpu fan [05:43] I am using a Pentium D 8xx so it is toasty as it is [05:43] * pwnguin finds his video card is the noisiest part [05:43] and that has a 120mm fan [05:43] I've had integrated video for longer than I can remember [05:43] oh yeah, it's really nice [05:43] you can barely hear it if you turn it down with the pwm, and it still moves a ton of air [05:44] I have some cheapy masscool that flat out sucks [05:44] my PSU has a 120mm fan on a sensor [05:44] the only time it gets loud is when im playing games, and ive got the headphones on then [05:44] same with mine [05:44] heh fan noise has never bothered me in computers [05:44] imbrandon: you work in a datacenter :P [05:44] I have 3 120mm fans in this small case and I can barely hear it [05:44] pwnguin: :) [05:45] imbrandon: we have an old cluster machine as a workstation in our lab [05:45] HELLA LOUD [05:45] fan noise never bothered me when I worked for HardOCP and Virtual Hideout back in 2000 [05:45] I used a YS-Tech and a Delta 60x60x38 [05:45] blarg, my old athlon pc had 4 90mm fans and it sounded like a vacuum cleaner [05:45] no fan pushed the cfm as those 2 did, and it sounded louder than a hair dryer [05:46] my new core 2 box has the cpu and psu fans and you can't hear it normally [05:46] my lian-li server has 8 80mm fans in it, but I bought a fan controller and have them all turned now, so it is actually fairly quiet right now [05:46] well, my desktop functions as a desktop computer, server and bedroom entertainment center [05:46] quiet is a plus [05:46] yiiikes. [05:46] I can't hear my laptop :) [05:46] pwnguin: hehe [05:46] i can hear mine. I blame ubuntu ;) [05:46] then again, all I hear is the humm of my desktop, server and 4 other turd boxes [05:47] the other turd boxes don't even have one fan in them :) [05:47] not even the killer 250w power supply from the 80s :p [05:47] anyone use lmsensors to actually throttle fans? [05:47] I tried it, and it didn't work for me [05:47] same [05:48] it did work flawlessly on a via kt333 mobo I had die this year though [05:48] abit at7 max [05:48] i dont think any of my fans or fan ports even have a control line =( [05:48] my server is using a biostar mobo, and I rather not even mess with that testy little piece of garbage [05:48] everytime I think about looking at the bios I have to RMA it :) [05:49] I have fan control on my msi pm8m3-v, but lmsensors isn't its biggest fan (excuse the pun) [05:49] I wonder if I can get that Rosewill at Tiger Direct or Frys [05:50] maybe I will go look tomorrow if I stop being lazy [05:50] tiger direct has retail stores? [05:50] ya [05:50] probably, it seems pretty common [05:50] that seems, indirect [05:50] we have tiger direct, frys, and micro center right here in chicago [05:50] we actually have 2 frys now [05:50] and 2 micro centers [05:50] well, microcenter and frys were both stores before the www i think [05:50] and cdw [05:50] frys was in cali [05:51] micro center as well [05:51] I worked behind microcenter in like 1999/2000, definitely before their internet presence [05:51] microcenter is all we have here [05:51] back then, their website sucked [05:51] it still does [05:51] pretty sure tiger direct got its legs as an e Commerce site [05:51] pwnguin: mailorder ( mag ) [05:52] is how tiger started [05:52] tiger direct was actually a retail store here long before e Commerce as well [05:52] it was called something else then [05:52] hmm [05:52] its been in mailorder for a long long time [05:52] we bought our first x86 computer from there in the late 80s [05:52] early 90's [05:52] or earlier [05:52] but it was called something else before tiger direct [05:52] heh [05:52] my old man and I were trying to remember that earlier this week actually [05:53] is naperville near chicago? [05:53] yup [05:53] I live 2 towns over from it [05:53] 3 towns [05:53] no, 2 towns :) [05:53] wheaton then naperville [05:53] their hq is there [05:53] that is their super huge warehouse [05:53] tiger direct has like 4 retail stores [05:54] texas, florida, chicago and I can't remember [05:54] microcenter only has like 10 [05:54] we happen to have one [05:54] lucky you [05:54] huh [05:54] bah [05:54] I haven't been in that store since the pc133 days [05:54] newegg ships plenty of places [05:54] I walked in there one night and they had IWill PC133 mobos mispriced for $39.99 each [05:55] I bought all 4 that they had [05:55] pwnguin: yea but retail is nic, you get to touch / feel /use the stuff :) [05:55] and bought 4 AMD T-Bird 1GHz AXIA CPUs [05:55] heh, I get in trouble with retail stores [05:55] go in there and buy too much.. [05:55] indeed. i'll never buy a case online again [05:55] overclocked them to 1.8GHz with Swiftech MC460s [05:55] that was a mess. usb and audio all seperated by wire [05:55] much easier to stay under control with the point and click method [05:55] cant get at the left side of the drive bays for screws =( [05:55] I bought my last case at Tiger Direct just a couple of months ago [05:56] $50 w/ 500w psu [05:56] then again, the closest thing to a computer store we have is a compusa 40 miles away... [05:56] pluss the apple department , i take my ipod in and hook it to their "try before you buy" systems and drap MS Office to it :) [05:56] we don't even have that anymore here [05:56] pwnguin: ^ [05:56] which sucks, cuz I wanted to exploit their store closings [05:56] drag* [05:56] yeah, the sales weren't that great [05:56] that stinks [05:57] I just returned my iPod I got for xmas [05:57] imbrandon: pirate! [05:57] hahahaha [05:57] arrr [05:57] heh i never use it, but its an easy way to get OSX software :) [05:57] awalton__: I am glad you like that rosewill though, I was looking at it, but couldn't make up my mind [05:57] drag installs make that too easy [05:57] I take my 4gb memory stick everywhere with me [05:57] i can imagine that actually works [05:58] can't [05:58] if you all have a local frys, hit it every sunday 1 hour before they close [05:58] they put all of their clearance stuff out [05:58] nope [05:58] pwnguin: OSX software is all self contained, works like a charm [05:58] nixternal, it's really nice, I was pretty impressed myself [05:58] imbrandon: surely there's a key hidden somewhere off the bundle [05:58] couple of weeks ago after our LUG event, which is 2 miles from Frys, we hit it up and I bought 4gb usb sticks for $9.99 each [05:58] it was sort of an impulse buy with the new cpu [05:58] pwnguin: it sotores it back in the .pkg bundle [05:58] ya, I wish I wouldn't have been so cheap when I built my other system truthfully [05:59] nixternal: our LUG hits up the Denny's specials instead ;) [05:59] but I got a dual-core cpu, mobo, and heatsink for $75 at tiger direct [05:59] hahahaha [05:59] very nice [05:59] I wish i was lying [05:59] nixternal: 4GB usb sticks are $10 bux here everyday at Microcenter, i have like 3 [05:59] after a Chicago LUG event we hit up Goose Island and usually get so drunk we forget our names [05:59]