| rhpot1991 | tgm4883_laptop: ping | 01:41 |
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| kdavis | Haven't found a clear answer elsewhere...can I use mythtv with directv instead of paying for their | 01:51 |
| kdavis | dvr service? | 01:51 |
| rhpot1991 | kinda | 01:52 |
| rhpot1991 | you will need to IR blast to the satellite receiver though | 01:52 |
| rhpot1991 | unless you have any sort of open usb/serial/firewire (which I don't think dtv does) | 01:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest51 | hey anyone know anything about Firefly remotes? | 01:52 |
| kdavis | I don't have the sat box yet, so I'm not sure what it has | 01:53 |
| kdavis | and I saw the directions to make a cable for the mythtv backend | 01:53 |
| jepeltw | hello all, the MythBuntu CD refuses to boot on my older system, is there anything new about the way the CD is made bootable? | 02:05 |
| JThundley | have you tried safe mode, noapic, noacpi? | 02:06 |
| jepeltw | JThundley, I don't even get that far | 02:06 |
| JThundley | oh wow | 02:07 |
| * jepeltw pops the CD into his other box and tries checking its integrity | 02:07 | |
| jepeltw | although I doubt it's integrity, because I had the same problem with another distro CD | 02:07 |
| jepeltw | the CD read light comes on and the CD spins up, but then the computer gives up on it and goes to the GRUB menu | 02:07 |
| jepeltw | aha, that's why you guys included Smart Boot Manager on the CD | 02:10 |
| jepeltw | ok never mind that, SBM gives me a disk error | 02:21 |
| Cackette | heym guys | 02:29 |
| JThundley | http://www.nforcershq.com/article3056.html | 02:29 |
| Cackette | does anyone here use a pcHDTV HD-5500 | 02:29 |
| Cackette | i'm having issues | 02:30 |
| Cackette | anyone here? | 02:32 |
| toorima | i use a pchdtv 5500 | 02:34 |
| Cackette | running what distro | 02:34 |
| toorima | mythbuntu | 02:34 |
| Cackette | how hard was it to setup | 02:34 |
| toorima | but i only use the hd part | 02:34 |
| Cackette | oh | 02:34 |
| toorima | worked out of the box | 02:34 |
| Cackette | i'm trying t get NTSC | 02:34 |
| toorima | ah well i've heard ppl use it for it so should work | 02:35 |
| Cackette | i cant get it to work for shit | 02:35 |
| toorima | k i've never tried it cause i have a pvr150 for sd | 02:35 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, heya | 02:40 |
| BHSPitLappy | there was something I wanted to ask you about, reflecting on our earlier conversation | 02:41 |
| hansoffate | hi, I have 2 coax cable INS. 1 labeled cable, and one labeled air on my HDTV. I have my STB connected to the Cable connection, and I was wondering if I connected a splitter and ran a cable directly to the Air Coax connection, would the HDTV tuner be able to pick up the unencrypted channels if there are any? | 02:46 |
| nettow0822_ | if you are referring to the tv tuner....yes it should | 02:51 |
| superm1 | BHSPitLappy, what were we discussing? | 02:56 |
| superm1 | i forget | 02:56 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, iTouches :P | 02:57 |
| superm1 | ah | 02:57 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, how realistic do you think would a myth frontend be? | 02:57 |
| superm1 | on an iPod touch? | 02:57 |
| superm1 | very unlikely | 02:57 |
| superm1 | there is no QT framework on them | 02:58 |
| BHSPitLappy | well | 02:59 |
| BHSPitLappy | things can be ported, etc. | 03:03 |
| rhpot1991 | BHSPitLappy: you hack some stuff up to use the ipod touch though | 03:03 |
| rhpot1991 | export your recordings and watch them on it | 03:03 |
| rhpot1991 | or make some web page on the backend that you can use to control it via the ipod | 03:03 |
| superm1 | BHSPitLappy, it would be a very ambitious project | 03:04 |
| BHSPitLappy | rhpot1991, I'm wondering how viable it could be as a wifi client though. | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | not very, unless your gonna use mythweb | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | thing aint powerful enough and very locked out | 03:04 |
| superm1 | considering the native h264 decoding support on it, some sort of system that on the fly h264 transcoded would be necessary | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | h264 takes forever to encode too | 03:04 |
| rhpot1991 | would be better queueing them up and encoding at night or something | 03:05 |
| rhpot1991 | superm1: I have h264 encoding working for touches, but not 5g's (stupid things are picky) | 03:06 |
| superm1 | rhpot1991, great, how does the quality look on them thus far? | 03:06 |
| superm1 | my transcodes for my touch were pretty meh. | 03:06 |
| rhpot1991 | well I was encoding at a low quality so I didn't spend all day downloading them | 03:06 |
| rhpot1991 | looked decent for an encoded cartoon, but it was on the low side | 03:07 |
| MythbuntuGuest85 | hey anyone know how to get a Firefly remote to work | 03:20 |
| nettow0822_ | snapstream firefly RF remote? | 03:21 |
| nettow0822_ | if you are referring to that one ...yes | 03:23 |
| hansoffate | nettow0822_: so it will work? | 03:30 |
| nettow0822_ | yes....i have two of them working on different id channels...... | 03:31 |
| nettow0822_ | the range is +30 feet | 03:31 |
| nettow0822_ | if you mythbuntu....just install the remote section | 03:32 |
| hansoffate | huh? but it says air, but i don't have an attenna So I can just connect a cable split into that port? | 03:32 |
| nettow0822_ | I also have the mouse function working too | 03:32 |
| hansoffate | oh i just want to get it connected so ican just watch HDTV | 03:32 |
| hansoffate | I thought i could through the unencrypted Coax Cable, if i connect it to the HDTV | 03:33 |
| nettow0822_ | oh sorry...thought you were talking about the firefly remote | 03:33 |
| hansoffate | oh no | 03:33 |
| hansoffate | does anyone else know? | 03:34 |
| nettow0822_ | are you trying to watch through your tv tuner? | 03:34 |
| hansoffate | yea | 03:34 |
| nettow0822_ | you should be able to connect the cable either input and receive hdtv | 03:35 |
| hansoffate | ok | 03:35 |
| hansoffate | gonna try it with a splitter | 03:35 |
| MrYutz | Anyone here with knowledge of the pcHDTV 5500 cards and the cx88-dvb module? | 03:38 |
| nettow0822_ | yes I have one pchdtv 5500 | 03:39 |
| MrYutz | Sweet - I was just reading your eariler chats - I might need that Firefly config as well --;) | 03:39 |
| MrYutz | I just installed mythbuntu 7.10, overwriting my previous install of Ubuntu 6.06 + mythtv .19. | 03:40 |
| nettow0822_ | sure....superm and group has made it easy | 03:40 |
| nettow0822_ | I don't use the analog side of the pchdtv 5500 | 03:41 |
| MrYutz | My pcHDTV card is not being detected in MythBackend - well - it sees the card, and it is listed in dmesg, but the /dev/dvb device doesn't exist. | 03:41 |
| MrYutz | I have tried to mannual modprobe the cx88-dvb driver, but it says: "No such device". | 03:42 |
| MrYutz | with a FATAL exit. | 03:42 |
| MrYutz | From my previous experience - this card was pretty easy - so I am wondering if there are know issues with mythbuntu or if you have to do something magical to udev to make the thing work now.... | 03:43 |
| nettow0822_ | is cx88-dvb listed when you view lsmod? | 03:43 |
| MrYutz | cx88xx and several others are - but not cx88-dvb | 03:43 |
| MrYutz | when i modprobe -v cx88-dvb, I get "FATAL: Error Inserting cx88-dvb (/lib/modules/2.6.2214-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko): No such device | 03:45 |
| MrYutz | The ko file does exist, and the pcHDTV card is listed in dmesg - but it won't insert the module......... | 03:46 |
| nettow0822_ | hummm | 03:47 |
| MrYutz | That was pretty much my reaction..... | 03:47 |
| nettow0822_ | one person could help you out right now....he rights code for the tuner modules | 03:48 |
| MrYutz | Yeah - that is probably the guy..... :) | 03:48 |
| nettow0822_ | he is mkrufky...he in on linuxtv channel right now | 03:48 |
| MrYutz | Can I name drop you as an into? | 03:49 |
| MrYutz | intro? | 03:49 |
| nettow0822_ | sure i'm on that channel now and just talked to him | 03:49 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, the libgpod in your team's PPA... know if it works with the Classics? | 03:50 |
| superm1 | it does | 03:51 |
| nettow0822_ | superm1.....having alot of artifacts on hdtv recorded shows...any ideas on how to fix this? | 03:55 |
| superm1 | run mythtranscode on the file | 03:56 |
| superm1 | do a mpeg2-mpeg2 transcode | 03:56 |
| superm1 | it does a decent job scrubbing them | 03:56 |
| nettow0822_ | ty | 03:59 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, also, what's the status on the banshee package in there? | 04:00 |
| superm1 | should work fine | 04:01 |
| superm1 | i haven't used it personally, but uploaded it just to rebuild against libgpod | 04:01 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, but, I don't see a deb persay | 04:03 |
| BHSPitLappy | in fact, it seems to be the only player you have there without packages | 04:04 |
| superm1 | actually | 04:05 |
| superm1 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10677930/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.banshee_0.13.1%2Bdfsg-3%2Bppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 04:05 |
| superm1 | failed to bulid | 04:05 |
| superm1 | you're right | 04:05 |
| superm1 | not sure | 04:06 |
| MrYutz | nettow0822, can I get your Firefly configs? | 04:07 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, banshee can be nasty to build :/ | 04:08 |
| superm1 | BHSPitLappy, well i made no source changes to the source package | 04:08 |
| superm1 | so it should have built fine | 04:09 |
| BHSPitLappy | superm1, I don't even understand what should be different about it. | 04:10 |
| superm1 | yeah i'm not too sure | 04:10 |
| BHSPitLappy | shouldn't the libgpod changes impact even a vanilla banshee? /me tests | 04:11 |
| nettow0822_ | mryutz you can use this site to generate your lirc file http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ | 04:23 |
| nettow0822_ | I will post my file on pastebin | 04:24 |
| nettow0822_ | this is a generic lircd for the snapstream accepts all channels http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3116/ | 04:28 |
| nettow0822_ | pastebin inserts extra lines between | 04:28 |
| nettow0822_ | here is one of the lircd files I use....it uses channel 8 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3117/ | 04:30 |
| MrYutz | Thx nettow0822. I actually generated my own lircd conf file via a capture, but was having a booger of a time getting all the apps to treat the buttons the way that I wanted them to. I will check out the LIRC commander site - it looks much easier. | 04:31 |
| nettow0822_ | this is my lircmd (mouse) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3118/ | 04:32 |
| nettow0822_ | this is the lirc http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3119/ | 04:33 |
| nettow0822_ | this is the addition for the mouse function for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3120/ | 04:36 |
| foxbuntu___ | MrYutz, what remote issues were you having? | 04:39 |
| foxbuntu___ | nettow0822_, mythbuntu-lircrc-generator will take care of that as well | 04:39 |
| nettow0822_ | sorry just trying to help with what I know | 04:40 |
| foxbuntu___ | nettow0822_, not a problem...just sharing the knowledge | 04:40 |
| foxbuntu___ | nettow0822_, also..I maintain MLG so I always need good information to work with, as I am in the middle of a big upgrade | 04:41 |
| nettow0822_ | the site will generate lirc for more than just mythtv | 04:41 |
| nettow0822_ | foxbuntu are you having the same problem as me....your nick name has several underscores after it....is this the result of your nick being used by someone else? | 04:44 |
| foxbuntu___ | naw | 04:44 |
| foxbuntu___ | my inet dropped in and out earlier | 04:45 |
| foxbuntu___ | nettow0822_, mlg generates a config for mythtv, vlc, mplayer, xine, xmess, xmame | 04:45 |
| foxbuntu___ | and totem | 04:46 |
| nettow0822_ | most of the time I can't get on irc.... | 04:46 |
| nettow0822_ | with my nick name | 04:47 |
| nettow0822_ | is there a way to get a recorded show to be viewed on more than one frontend at the same time? | 04:56 |
| hansoffate | damnit, ubuntu 7.10 cd isn't booting on my main system. I got fed up with windows today and decided to switch. Im going to reburn the cd. | 05:42 |
| BHSPitLappy | hansoffate, nice move, sorry to hear about the CD | 06:09 |
| foxbuntu | hansoffate, what error are you getting? | 06:18 |
| hansoffate | i just tried my newly burnt cd, i am getting a kernel panic | 06:20 |
| hansoffate | i am burning kubuntu now, to see if i get a different result | 06:21 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: | 06:21 |
| foxbuntu | hansoffate, do you know what type of CD-ROM you are using? | 06:24 |
| MythbuntuGuest96 | okay, so total linux noob here. ive managed to install a few various flavors and somehow manage to install VLC media player... thats about it... help! =) | 06:24 |
| hansoffate | TDK media, let me go check the dvd-rom drive | 06:25 |
| MythbuntuGuest96 | i guess first question i ask is how the heck do i change names? =) | 06:25 |
| foxbuntu | MythbuntuGuest96, ask your questions | 06:26 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | Anybody here? | 06:29 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: dvd-rw drive; this is the second time it booted to a black screen with just a blinking _ | 06:29 |
| foxbuntu | hansoffate, but the brand of the drive, is it a samsung drive? | 06:30 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | Anyone care to point me in the direction of information i can actually use? Im very fluent with windows =) But this whole linux thing is just way over my head.... Managed to get mythbuntu installed, but i cant seem to get any channels to scan, and if i manualy add channels all i get is static.. oddly enough, it seems like 2 frames of the same static over and over... How can i test my tv tuner card outside of the f | 06:31 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: wow, i thought i said sony ... sorry, didn't reread what i thoguht i typed | 06:32 |
| hansoffate | anyways, i just tried booting kubuntu, and it looks like its booting, it hasn't gotten fully into KDE, but its almost there, i think i'll be fine | 06:32 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: maybe not, it is stuck at a blank light blue screen with a mouse and nothing else | 06:38 |
| hansoffate | lol, maybe it's a sign | 06:38 |
| foxbuntu | hansoffate, naw...just wait...sometimes it will just sit there when booting the livecd | 06:40 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | anybody? not asking for someone to hold my hand.. just wanting pointed in the right direction. | 06:43 |
| hansoffate | MythbuntuGuest31: what do you mean? have you read the documentation at the website? | 06:45 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: its been at this screen for around 15 minutes | 06:45 |
| hansoffate | any suggestions? neither ubuntu or kubuntu boot | 06:47 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | ive read the documentation, but its poorly oganised and cant make any sense of it whatsoever | 06:48 |
| hansoffate | i thought it was well organized, it should take you step by step | 06:48 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | well,i followed install instructions, no problem, got to frontend, i guess it sorta works | 06:48 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | but i cant find anything except for things that assume i know what im doing =) | 06:49 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | right now, all i'd like to acomplish is see a single image of something from the tv tuner card that isnt static | 06:49 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | i think i came across a .tar of drivers for this tuner card... but, here i am sitting at terminal beating my head agaisnt the wall beacuse i have zero clue what im doing, typing things like tar xzvf filename.tar | 06:51 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | and getting errors that i dont understand. | 06:52 |
| hansoffate | what tuner? | 06:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | bt878 chipset | 06:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | software seemed to have picked it up, showing the right number of inputs of the proper type | 06:53 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | im looking at the static tho and it dosnt look like static, its like its the same two frames of static over and over, no randomness to it | 06:53 |
| hansoffate | do you have it set to the right input that you have it connected with? | 06:54 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | i _think_ so. | 06:54 |
| hansoffate | is the signal from an STB? | 06:54 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | stb? | 06:54 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | ive tried all kinds of various input configs... did the 'going down the list untill one works' method didnt work =) | 06:55 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | oh, set top box, no, directly from wall. | 06:55 |
| hansoffate | do you have myth setup to the correct frequency? | 06:57 |
| hansoffate | i don't have myth setup in my house, just gave my parents my old box, and i just ordered new parts to build an HD one, so i can't tell you where it is | 06:58 |
| hansoffate | but you may have to set the frequency correctly, to IE us-cable | 06:58 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | tried changing to various frequencys. Dont get anything different, just the same two frames of static. So im kinda leaning twoards card isnt installed properly, drivers or whatever... i honestly have no clue =) | 07:00 |
| MythbuntuGuest31 | unfortunatly everything i look for as far as anything to test tuner card outside of mythtv is all a forgein language to me... And i have no RL linux geek friends to help me with the basics =p | 07:01 |
| hansoffate | sorry, can't help you | 07:03 |
| hansoffate | foxbuntu: yea, still doesn't boot. First time i haven't had an ubuntu CD not boot on a computer | 07:04 |
| foxbuntu | hansoffate, strange | 07:18 |
| hansoffate | yea | 07:19 |
| hansoffate | they told me to use the alternate disc | 07:19 |
| hansoffate | in the ubuntu channel | 07:19 |
| chairman_ | if d.dusha from the mythtv mailinglist is here or if someone is subscribing to the mailinglist. The best solution I think for controlling a Receiver via rs-232 is http://sourceforge.net/projects/hkontrol/ | 14:06 |
| chairman_ | only works for harman kardon recievers and you have to buy one of the higher end but still | 14:06 |
| chairman_ | I have just bought one, but not tested it out yet | 14:07 |
| selinuxium | Does mythbuntu have any integration with the bbc iplayer? also did you manage to get the flash conversion stuff working? | 15:15 |
| selinuxium | Daviey ^^^ | 15:15 |
| Daviey | selinuxium: Answered elsewhere :) | 15:18 |
| selinuxium | :) | 15:18 |
| savage1 | howdie folks | 15:19 |
| savage1 | I have a remote here that I always have to recompile lirc to get to work, it's the mce edition of the pvr 150 the rc6 remote | 15:20 |
| savage1 | anyways, I'm following the same instructions I used before to do the ./configure and then the make make install | 15:20 |
| savage1 | but I'm getting an errpr that no c compiler is installed | 15:20 |
| Daviey | sudo apt-get install gcc | 15:21 |
| Daviey | :) | 15:21 |
| savage1 | thnks | 15:21 |
| savage1 | I knew how to apt-get it but I didn't know wht IT is | 15:21 |
| savage1 | hehe | 15:21 |
| savage1 | I'm apt-cache searching for c compiler and all this other shit ;) | 15:21 |
| savage1 | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check | 15:22 |
| savage1 | you ever seen that? | 15:22 |
| savage1 | it went some of the way and then came up with that | 15:22 |
| Daviey | savage1: install build-essentials | 15:22 |
| savage1 | thanks | 15:23 |
| savage1 | i wonder why this stuff isn't in tyhere already | 15:24 |
| savage1 | must not take up too much space hehe | 15:24 |
| savage1 | k it's working | 15:24 |
| savage1 | shit now it wants the linux kernel source haha | 15:24 |
| savage1 | lemme guess install source? | 15:24 |
| savage1 | linux-source | 15:27 |
| savage1 | alright | 15:29 |
| savage1 | I can't get it to configure it keeps saying "configure: error: *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed | 15:29 |
| savage1 | for this driver | 15:29 |
| savage1 | " | 15:29 |
| savage1 | and I did apt-get install linux-source | 15:30 |
| savage1 | and it said it was already installed | 15:30 |
| savage1 | is there a difference between that and the kernel source | 15:30 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | what is the trick to get the channel guide working with schedules direct? All i get is blank screen | 15:30 |
| savage1 | I set the free 7 day trial of schedules direct up, and it works but I'm not getting channel data yet | 15:30 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | i took notice that during the channel guide population i got alot of 401 errors | 15:31 |
| savage1 | I exited mythtv to give it some time maybe it takes time to download or something? | 15:31 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | it's been over 20 hrs now..lol | 15:31 |
| savage1 | wow | 15:31 |
| savage1 | I'm not sure man | 15:31 |
| savage1 | mine wouldn't even display tv until I did schedules direct | 15:32 |
| savage1 | it's weird | 15:32 |
| savage1 | i need toi configure out how to load kernel source | 15:33 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | i don't have tv either.Been working on this for over a week now with the same results | 15:34 |
| savage1 | did you set up your capture card, do the retrive linup w/ sched direct, and then setup the video source and do a channel scan? | 15:35 |
| savage1 | sudo apt-get install kernel-package | 15:36 |
| savage1 | that's how it's done | 15:36 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | i beleive it's setup correctly. I'm using the hauppauge pvr-150 card with remote | 15:37 |
| savage1 | I had the issue w/ the damned video input | 15:37 |
| savage1 | yeah I've got the 150 too, w/ the rc6 remote | 15:37 |
| savage1 | it's a pain in the ass | 15:37 |
| savage1 | I usually get the tv working but then the remote won't work | 15:37 |
| savage1 | generally, I need to recompile the nrewest lirc and select mceusb2 | 15:37 |
| savage1 | this is my like 5th time getting this fucker to work | 15:37 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | so what's the best way to install the newest lirc | 15:38 |
| savage1 | go to lirc.org | 15:38 |
| savage1 | basically, wget it, then extract it, then go in and do a ./configure in the directory | 15:38 |
| savage1 | this interface comes up and then you gotta chose your shit, do mceusb2 that's what I'm trying | 15:39 |
| savage1 | then do the thing that says "save configuration and run configure" | 15:39 |
| savage1 | that'll get it ready so you can make and make install it | 15:39 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | ok i'll give that a try then | 15:40 |
| savage1 | but you need to have the kernal source installed | 15:40 |
| savage1 | which I don't know how to do | 15:40 |
| savage1 | I thought it was sudo apt-get install kernel-package | 15:41 |
| nettow0822_ | anyone know how to get the same recorded show to play on two different frontends at the same time? | 15:43 |
| Aquahallic | Mornin' all | 16:02 |
| MilhousePunkRock | Hello everyone! | 16:52 |
| MilhousePunkRock | Are there common reasons why mythwelcome would terminate when the frontend is closed? | 16:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest34 | Well i got it to work now but don't ask me how..lol I went into the terminal did an update and messed with some settings in mythtv now i have the program guide working | 17:26 |
| theshadow | alright, I tried to do an upgrade a couple of weeks ago and it was updating mysql. it got stuck and I had to reboot. Now I can't get it to upgrade or update or anything cause it keeps trying to shutdown /var/run/mysqld but that doesn't exist | 19:06 |
| theshadow | And I have no idea what to do now. Can any one give me a hand? | 19:07 |
| nettow0822_ | the last resort would be to re-install mythbuntu | 19:20 |
| nettow0822_ | not how to tell you to fix your problem other than re-install | 19:21 |
| === chairman_ is now known as chairman | ||
| linuxbomb | is there a free replacement for zap2it? | 19:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 19:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | although there is a nominal fee replacement | 19:49 |
| linuxbomb | is that question asked a lot? I know about the fee replacement | 19:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not really, it only effects people in the US or canada, and most decided that the $20/year fee is worth it | 19:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but we do get a question from time to time about it | 19:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | there are other ways to get the data, but it always turns out that those ways are not very good | 19:51 |
| linuxbomb | xml | 19:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no, xml is a good way to get it | 19:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | some people use screen scrapers, but those pretty much suck, and any change of the website will render it pretty much useless | 19:52 |
| Dr_willis | Then there was some other alternative that was a bit cheaper then $20 a year. but i never did get it working with mythtv yet. | 19:54 |
| linuxbomb | what are those? | 19:54 |
| Dr_willis | https://cttvlistings.net/ | 19:55 |
| Dr_willis | That site mentions MythTV - but i could find no docs/info on setting it up with mythtv | 19:55 |
| Dr_willis | it also has a free '4day ahead' listing | 19:55 |
| Iolaus | Hey all, anyone know who is in charge of the weekly Trunk builds? | 20:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea, superm1 | 20:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | why? | 20:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Iolaus, whats the problem? | 20:01 |
| laga | hey | 20:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | laga, Iolaus was asking | 20:01 |
| laga | so, who wants to know about trunk builds? | 20:01 |
| linuxbomb | why is this channel called ubuntu-mythtv and not just mythtv...... I'm only curious because I use gentoo | 20:04 |
| laga | well | 20:05 |
| laga | do you really need an answer? | 20:05 |
| Iolaus | I posted the bug I ran into here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu-trunk/+bug/177906 | 20:05 |
| * tgm4883_laptop smacks himself in the head | 20:05 | |
| Iolaus | heh | 20:05 |
| Iolaus | that was classic | 20:05 |
| laga | Iolaus: oh, thanks for remiding me! yes, that's easy to fix :) will be finxed in the next weekly build i hope. in the meantime you should be able to remove mythtv-common before installing the rest | 20:06 |
| linuxbomb | yep I think its a big conspiracy its like ubuntu is trying to get there name on everything like lmce installs with kubuntu and there is no lmce in portage whats up with that | 20:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxbomb, probably maybe just perhaps if I had to guess and this is completely off the top of my head because this channel is dedicated to those who run mythtv on ubuntu or mythbuntu | 20:06 |
| Iolaus | laga: thanks for the heads up! I just do an apt-get remove on myth-common before doing the apt-get dist-upgrade? | 20:07 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxmce uses ubuntu as it's base | 20:07 |
| laga | Iolaus: should be fine | 20:07 |
| laga | Iolaus: i hope ;) | 20:07 |
| Dr_willis | they shoul dof named it mceubuntu | 20:07 |
| Iolaus | laga: I'll give that a shot on my virtual machine and see if it works | 20:07 |
| Dr_willis | McUbuntu | 20:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Dr_willis, would you like fries with that | 20:08 |
| Dr_willis | tgm4883_laptop, I was just thinking that.. | 20:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i'll take 1 McUbuntu and a large coke | 20:08 |
| Dr_willis | SuperSize your Disrto at McUbuntus! | 20:08 |
| linuxbomb | I wonder if ubuntu and schedulesdirect.org are like you know.. | 20:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what? | 20:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | at war? | 20:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | in love? | 20:10 |
| linuxbomb | $$ you know $$ | 20:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | getting it on? | 20:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well since schedulesdirect.org works with mythtv, and mythtv is on all distro's, im not sure why you would think that | 20:11 |
| linuxbomb | what about lmce? | 20:11 |
| laga | how optimized is your gentoo? | 20:11 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what about it? | 20:11 |
| linuxbomb | it runs on ubuntu | 20:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and your point is? | 20:12 |
| linuxbomb | nevermind forget it | 20:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxmce is a combination of ubuntu and plutohome | 20:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | plutohome itself runs on debian | 20:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | mythbuntu runs on ubuntu, are you saying that we are missing our kickback from mark? | 20:13 |
| linuxbomb | I'm not saying anymore | 20:13 |
| laga | why | 20:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Secondly, even if schedulesdirect and ubuntu were in some sort of money agreement, so what? | 20:14 |
| linuxbomb | there probably monitoring this | 20:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | again, so what? | 20:15 |
| linuxbomb | what does ubuntu have to gain? | 20:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what does ubuntu have to gain from what? from having an aggrement with schedules direct? | 20:16 |
| linuxbomb | yes | 20:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i dont know, you tell me, you are the one that thinks that they have one | 20:17 |
| linuxbomb | who is ubuntu's main competition? | 20:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | um, redhat | 20:17 |
| linuxbomb | think bigger | 20:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | or microsoft | 20:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | bigger than ms? | 20:18 |
| Dr_willis | RIAA! | 20:19 |
| Dr_willis | :) | 20:19 |
| linuxbomb | ubuntu is trying to get in with the cable companys and they get there foot in the door with schedules direct | 20:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but SD works with all distros | 20:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | your reasoning is flawed | 20:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not to mention that if Ubuntu is trying to compete directly with MS on the Media Center front, then channel data is not where they should be focusing on | 20:20 |
| Dr_willis | I feel that Channel Data should be free from your cable provider.. but I guess thats Communist thinking. | 20:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | If thats the case, they should be working on licensing agreements for DVD and satellite and cable companies | 20:21 |
| linuxbomb | what is a pvr without channel data? | 20:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Dr_willis, what if you get your channels OTA? | 20:21 |
| Dr_willis | linuxbomb, its a VCR that uses disk not tape. | 20:21 |
| Dr_willis | I got a low end PVR that cant use any channel data. it can use that TVGUIDE+ # to get shows. but I just set it to record sci-fi all day and let it record. | 20:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxbomb, what does UBUNTU gain from an agreement with SD that everyone (including MS users) can use the channel data from? | 20:22 |
| linuxbomb | thats what they want you to think | 20:23 |
| linuxbomb | did you vote for george bush? | 20:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | wtf are you even talking about | 20:23 |
| Dr_willis | Bigfoot is running for Congress! | 20:23 |
| linuxbomb | I dont see any sd stuff on microsoft's site but its all over mythtv's site | 20:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but it's not on Ubuntu's sit | 20:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | e | 20:24 |
| linuxbomb | but lmce runs on ubuntu and now they have this mythbuntu thing its called fusion | 20:24 |
| tgm4883_laptop | so wouldnt that point to an agreement between Mythtv and schedules direct | 20:24 |
| Dr_willis | https://cttvlistings.net/ - is a competator also.. but i cant get it working with Mythtv yet. | 20:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxbomb, so wouldnt that point to an agreement between Mythtv and schedules direct | 20:25 |
| linuxbomb | Dr_willis, they dont want it to work with mythtv | 20:25 |
| Dr_willis | its powered by zap2it. | 20:25 |
| linuxbomb | tgm4883_laptop, yes and mythtv + ubuntu | 20:25 |
| Dr_willis | linuxbomb, they make a big deal/mention of MythTV on their site however. | 20:26 |
| linuxbomb | Dr_willis, mythtv doesn't want it to work | 20:26 |
| linuxbomb | mythtv/ubuntu | 20:26 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Dr_willis, linuxbomb one of Schedules Direct's founders is a MythTV developer | 20:26 |
| linuxbomb | exactly | 20:27 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxbomb, I ask again, so what | 20:27 |
| linuxbomb | so ubuntu wants to be the next time warner cable | 20:27 |
| Dr_willis | and take over the world... | 20:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | linuxbomb, wtf are you talking about, MythTV may have an agreement with SD, but not Ubuntu. | 20:28 |
| linuxbomb | and they are using your money to do it | 20:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | do you see the difference between Ubuntu and MythTV? | 20:28 |
| linuxbomb | you mean mythbuntu | 20:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | so what are your thoughts on Knoppmyth or Mythdora? | 20:29 |
| linuxbomb | they dont work | 20:29 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I suppose that they are also being used for ubuntu domination? | 20:29 |
| linuxbomb | and do you know why? | 20:29 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i'll be nice and let you finish your question | 20:29 |
| linuxbomb | knoppmyth and mythdora ...... neither one worked for me , I dont think they work at all | 20:30 |
| linuxbomb | its a cover | 20:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sure, just because they were here before mythbuntu, and people used them. but whatever | 20:31 |
| Dr_willis | They both worked for me... I perfered Knoppmyth | 20:31 |
| * Dr_willis is totally confused now.. but figures it dosent matter. | 20:31 | |
| tgm4883_laptop | Dr_willis, linuxbomb is gone, we don't need trolls here | 20:32 |
| Dr_willis | Yep. :) | 20:32 |
| tgm4883_laptop | although what just happened will just fuel his crap | 20:32 |
| Dr_willis | Ive had better debates on weather ufo's exist, or the moonlanding. | 20:32 |
| Dr_willis | Or bigfoots. | 20:32 |
| laga | dude | 20:33 |
| Dr_willis | or if Bigfoots in ufo's landed on the moon, to promote Ubuntu! | 20:33 |
| laga | do you really believe the moon landing is real | 20:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ok, this is not mythbuntu support | 20:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | don't make me ban you too | 20:33 |
| Dr_willis | dude.. you really believe its not. :) but thats for #debian chat... | 20:34 |
| Dr_willis | back to work for me | 20:34 |
| laga | heh | 20:34 |
| laga | same here :) | 20:34 |
| Iolaus | tgm4883_laptop: Any idea when the next trunk build with the libmyth-perl fix will be coming out? | 20:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Iolaus, ask laga | 20:42 |
| laga | Iolaus: when i tell superm1 he should fire off a build :) | 20:43 |
| laga | Iolaus: not more than two days | 20:43 |
| laga | i'm, kinda busy with something else right now | 20:43 |
| laga | a first attempt at diskless frontends :) | 20:44 |
| Iolaus | heh, that's what I've just set up | 20:44 |
| Iolaus | :) | 20:44 |
| laga | actually, expect a fix in the next 24 hours. gotta get up early tomorrow :) | 20:44 |
| Iolaus | awesome | 20:44 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | hello | 21:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hi | 21:17 |
| Dr_willis | Wowsers | 21:30 |
| wilberfan | anyone else have their myth install freeze when they delete the only recording? Mine ALWAYS locks up solid then! I have to alt-sysrq RSEIUB to get out of it... | 21:33 |
| wilberfan | For example, if I have 3 shows recorded, I can delete 2 of them, but as soon as I delete the last remaining one? Lock-up! | 21:34 |
| laga | _solid_? sounds nasty | 21:34 |
| laga | any logs? | 21:34 |
| wilberfan | mmm... maybe. not sure where to look for those...kind of a newb... | 21:35 |
| wilberfan | SUPER solid.... | 21:35 |
| laga | maybe /var/log/messages and /var/log/mythtv/ | 21:36 |
| wilberfan | hmmm... myth isn't booted at the mo'... i'll have to check around in there... | 21:40 |
| CygnusX1 | Is this the mythbuntu channel? | 22:00 |
| CygnusX1 | Just installed mythbuntu 7.10. I cannot enable the VNC Server option. I enable it, put a password in, and apply. No errors. Come back into the service setup and it is disabled again. | 22:01 |
| superm1 | CygnusX1, try to install vnc4server manually | 22:02 |
| superm1 | at a command line | 22:03 |
| superm1 | and then reconfigure it in mcc | 22:03 |
| CygnusX1 | superm1: okay. Thank you. Trying that now...it's asking for the CDROM... | 22:04 |
| superm1 | that's why it was failing :) | 22:04 |
| superm1 | its a known bug | 22:05 |
| CygnusX1 | arg...I looked all over and couldn't find any info. | 22:05 |
| CygnusX1 | I supposed I need to edit the repositories? | 22:05 |
| superm1 | no | 22:05 |
| superm1 | just install from the cd | 22:05 |
| superm1 | its not a big deal | 22:05 |
| CygnusX1 | Oh...okay. | 22:05 |
| superm1 | the bug has been fixed in hardy | 22:06 |
| superm1 | if you put in the cd before you start the install in mcc, it will work properly there too | 22:09 |
| CygnusX1 | Heh. Now it looks like I am running into another known bug: no medium found | 22:11 |
| wilberfan | superm1: have you heard about myth systems locking up hard when deleting the only recording? | 22:11 |
| superm1 | wilberfan, if using ext3 | 22:11 |
| wilberfan | if i have 3 shows recorded, i can delete any 2 of them... when i delete the last one--my myth system locks-up super hard... | 22:12 |
| superm1 | CygnusX1, you can just disable the cd in software-sources | 22:12 |
| wilberfan | i have to alt-sysrq RSEIUB to get out of it... | 22:12 |
| wilberfan | superm1: I'm using XFS,,, | 22:12 |
| superm1 | yuck | 22:13 |
| CygnusX1 | Nice...that is working. Thank you superm1 | 22:13 |
| wilberfan | lol is that yuck directed at me? | 22:13 |
| superm1 | CygnusX1, can you make a post wherever you were looking but not finding this info? | 22:14 |
| superm1 | so other users will be able to find it too | 22:14 |
| superm1 | wilberfan, yeah | 22:14 |
| superm1 | i'm not too sure what to say there | 22:14 |
| wilberfan | it's very unfortunate..to say the least!! | 22:15 |
| wilberfan | i'm thinkin' i'll have to record something small--and just leave it in there... | 22:15 |
| wilberfan | :-P | 22:15 |
| CygnusX1 | superm1: Sure can. I'll probably try and fix this CDROM issue though as well. I should check and see if a DVD will play from it. | 22:15 |
| CygnusX1 | Okay...now this kicks butt for managing the ole mythbox | 22:17 |
| superm1 | that's the goal of it :) | 22:18 |
| wilberfan | superm1: no other thoughts on my freeze-up problemo...? | 22:19 |
| superm1 | beyond bad hardware somewhere, no | 22:20 |
| wilberfan | hmmm.... not sure if it's related, but it started happening after a fairly big update a few days ago... | 22:20 |
| wilberfan | (as i recall, mythtv was in the update list, too...) | 22:21 |
| wilberfan | I assumed some other folks would have reported the same problem... | 22:22 |
| wilberfan | :-\ | 22:22 |
| superm1 | the update to mythtv was only for pvr-350 outputs | 22:22 |
| superm1 | eg to a tv | 22:22 |
| wilberfan | right...i do happen to have a pvr-350... | 22:22 |
| wilberfan | there was a butt-load of things updating, as i recall...couple of dozen...? | 22:23 |
| superm1 | are you using the tv-out of it? | 22:23 |
| superm1 | if not then its not rel. | 22:23 |
| wilberfan | well..let's see...no, my video-out is from my nvidia card... | 22:24 |
| wilberfan | would there likely be anything in a log somewhere...? | 22:27 |
| superm1 | about what was installed? | 22:29 |
| superm1 | /var/log/dpkg.log | 22:29 |
| superm1 | or something similar | 22:29 |
| wilberfan | superm1: no, i meant that might shed some light on what's making it lock-up so hard... | 22:31 |
| superm1 | set up a serial console | 22:31 |
| superm1 | to look what is happening | 22:31 |
| superm1 | that's about the best you can do for tracking a hard lock like that | 22:31 |
| wilberfan | never heard that term "serial console"? | 22:32 |
| superm1 | you log all kernel messages over a serial cable | 22:32 |
| superm1 | to another computer | 22:32 |
| wilberfan | my "record-a-5-minute-program-and-leave-it-there" solution would be easier... | 22:32 |
| wilberfan | lol | 22:32 |
| wilberfan | thanks for scratchin' your head with me, though.... | 22:33 |
| wilberfan | i've also had a couple of situations (since that big update) where my recorded programs don't show up in any list.... | 22:34 |
| wilberfan | but 2 or 3 reboots later, there they are...! | 22:35 |
| wilberfan | superm1: that one perplexes me, too.... | 22:37 |
| superm1 | those are some rather odd transient issues | 22:37 |
| wilberfan | arent' they though! | 22:37 |
| wilberfan | i also had the myth frontend start and then fail back to the xfce desktop a few times... | 22:38 |
| wilberfan | that DIDN'T happen the last couple of boots, though... | 22:38 |
| superm1 | well if you do manage to track any of these odd ones down, please do file bugs upon them | 22:38 |
| wilberfan | yah, you betcha... | 22:39 |
| wilberfan | laters... | 22:39 |
| wilberfan | thanks again... | 22:39 |
| MythbuntuGuest76 | anyone having issues with Schedules direct and mythfilldatabase? | 23:08 |
| tele | does anyone know of a good dvd backup that will copy the movie data without converting it, but removing css etc | 23:12 |
| nettow0822_ | anyway to get two frontends to play a recording at the same time....... | 23:13 |
| nettow0822_ | I like to have the recording going on two tv's | 23:13 |
| nettow0822_ | hey tgm4883 | 23:43 |
| nettow0822_ | anyway to get two frontends to play a recording at the same time.... | 23:44 |
| tgm4883 | you mean at exactly the same type? (ie synced) | 23:46 |
| nettow0822_ | yes....I have two tv's in different rooms.....would want both to play the same recorded program at the same time....walk from one room to the other and not miss anything | 23:48 |
| nettow0822_ | not sure how to start this? | 23:48 |
| nettow0822_ | right now I have to fast forward / rewind to adjust based on time | 23:49 |
| tgm4883 | AFAIK, it's not possible. There is a blueprint for it though, although it has not been picked up by anyone | 23:52 |
| nettow0822_ | ok | 23:52 |
| nettow0822_ | it would be nice for football games | 23:53 |
| nettow0822_ | on another note....I saw where you replied to a post about a palm... | 23:53 |
| nettow0822_ | I just got a centro from sprint | 23:54 |
| nettow0822_ | I syncing.... | 23:55 |
| nettow0822_ | but it times out | 23:55 |
| nettow0822_ | i'll have to play with it some more.... | 23:56 |
| nettow0822_ | just wanted to know....it sounds like you have some experience with this | 23:56 |
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