[01:41] tgm4883_laptop: ping [01:51] Haven't found a clear answer elsewhere...can I use mythtv with directv instead of paying for their [01:51] dvr service? [01:52] kinda [01:52] you will need to IR blast to the satellite receiver though [01:52] unless you have any sort of open usb/serial/firewire (which I don't think dtv does) [01:52] hey anyone know anything about Firefly remotes? [01:53] I don't have the sat box yet, so I'm not sure what it has [01:53] and I saw the directions to make a cable for the mythtv backend [02:05] hello all, the MythBuntu CD refuses to boot on my older system, is there anything new about the way the CD is made bootable? [02:06] have you tried safe mode, noapic, noacpi? [02:06] JThundley, I don't even get that far [02:07] oh wow [02:07] * jepeltw pops the CD into his other box and tries checking its integrity [02:07] although I doubt it's integrity, because I had the same problem with another distro CD [02:07] the CD read light comes on and the CD spins up, but then the computer gives up on it and goes to the GRUB menu [02:10] aha, that's why you guys included Smart Boot Manager on the CD [02:21] ok never mind that, SBM gives me a disk error [02:29] heym guys [02:29] http://www.nforcershq.com/article3056.html [02:29] does anyone here use a pcHDTV HD-5500 [02:30] i'm having issues [02:32] anyone here? [02:34] i use a pchdtv 5500 [02:34] running what distro [02:34] mythbuntu [02:34] how hard was it to setup [02:34] but i only use the hd part [02:34] oh [02:34] worked out of the box [02:34] i'm trying t get NTSC [02:35] ah well i've heard ppl use it for it so should work [02:35] i cant get it to work for shit [02:35] k i've never tried it cause i have a pvr150 for sd [02:40] superm1, heya [02:41] there was something I wanted to ask you about, reflecting on our earlier conversation [02:46] hi, I have 2 coax cable INS. 1 labeled cable, and one labeled air on my HDTV. I have my STB connected to the Cable connection, and I was wondering if I connected a splitter and ran a cable directly to the Air Coax connection, would the HDTV tuner be able to pick up the unencrypted channels if there are any? [02:51] if you are referring to the tv tuner....yes it should [02:56] BHSPitLappy, what were we discussing? [02:56] i forget [02:57] superm1, iTouches :P [02:57] ah [02:57] superm1, how realistic do you think would a myth frontend be? [02:57] on an iPod touch? [02:57] very unlikely [02:58] there is no QT framework on them [02:59] well [03:03] things can be ported, etc. [03:03] BHSPitLappy: you hack some stuff up to use the ipod touch though [03:03] export your recordings and watch them on it [03:03] or make some web page on the backend that you can use to control it via the ipod [03:04] BHSPitLappy, it would be a very ambitious project [03:04] rhpot1991, I'm wondering how viable it could be as a wifi client though. [03:04] not very, unless your gonna use mythweb [03:04] thing aint powerful enough and very locked out [03:04] considering the native h264 decoding support on it, some sort of system that on the fly h264 transcoded would be necessary [03:04] h264 takes forever to encode too [03:05] would be better queueing them up and encoding at night or something [03:06] superm1: I have h264 encoding working for touches, but not 5g's (stupid things are picky) [03:06] rhpot1991, great, how does the quality look on them thus far? [03:06] my transcodes for my touch were pretty meh. [03:06] well I was encoding at a low quality so I didn't spend all day downloading them [03:07] looked decent for an encoded cartoon, but it was on the low side [03:20] hey anyone know how to get a Firefly remote to work [03:21] snapstream firefly RF remote? [03:23] if you are referring to that one ...yes [03:30] nettow0822_: so it will work? [03:31] yes....i have two of them working on different id channels...... [03:31] the range is +30 feet [03:32] if you mythbuntu....just install the remote section [03:32] huh? but it says air, but i don't have an attenna So I can just connect a cable split into that port? [03:32] I also have the mouse function working too [03:32] oh i just want to get it connected so ican just watch HDTV [03:33] I thought i could through the unencrypted Coax Cable, if i connect it to the HDTV [03:33] oh sorry...thought you were talking about the firefly remote [03:33] oh no [03:34] does anyone else know? [03:34] are you trying to watch through your tv tuner? [03:34] yea [03:35] you should be able to connect the cable either input and receive hdtv [03:35] ok [03:35] gonna try it with a splitter [03:38] Anyone here with knowledge of the pcHDTV 5500 cards and the cx88-dvb module? [03:39] yes I have one pchdtv 5500 [03:39] Sweet - I was just reading your eariler chats - I might need that Firefly config as well --;) [03:40] I just installed mythbuntu 7.10, overwriting my previous install of Ubuntu 6.06 + mythtv .19. [03:40] sure....superm and group has made it easy [03:41] I don't use the analog side of the pchdtv 5500 [03:41] My pcHDTV card is not being detected in MythBackend - well - it sees the card, and it is listed in dmesg, but the /dev/dvb device doesn't exist. [03:42] I have tried to mannual modprobe the cx88-dvb driver, but it says: "No such device". [03:42] with a FATAL exit. [03:43] From my previous experience - this card was pretty easy - so I am wondering if there are know issues with mythbuntu or if you have to do something magical to udev to make the thing work now.... [03:43] is cx88-dvb listed when you view lsmod? [03:43] cx88xx and several others are - but not cx88-dvb [03:45] when i modprobe -v cx88-dvb, I get "FATAL: Error Inserting cx88-dvb (/lib/modules/2.6.2214-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko): No such device [03:46] The ko file does exist, and the pcHDTV card is listed in dmesg - but it won't insert the module......... [03:47] hummm [03:47] That was pretty much my reaction..... [03:48] one person could help you out right now....he rights code for the tuner modules [03:48] Yeah - that is probably the guy..... :) [03:48] he is mkrufky...he in on linuxtv channel right now [03:49] Can I name drop you as an into? [03:49] intro? [03:49] sure i'm on that channel now and just talked to him [03:50] superm1, the libgpod in your team's PPA... know if it works with the Classics? [03:51] it does [03:55] superm1.....having alot of artifacts on hdtv recorded shows...any ideas on how to fix this? [03:56] run mythtranscode on the file [03:56] do a mpeg2-mpeg2 transcode [03:56] it does a decent job scrubbing them [03:59] ty [04:00] superm1, also, what's the status on the banshee package in there? [04:01] should work fine [04:01] i haven't used it personally, but uploaded it just to rebuild against libgpod [04:03] superm1, but, I don't see a deb persay [04:04] in fact, it seems to be the only player you have there without packages [04:05] actually [04:05] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10677930/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.banshee_0.13.1%2Bdfsg-3%2Bppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [04:05] failed to bulid [04:05] you're right [04:06] not sure [04:07] nettow0822, can I get your Firefly configs? [04:08] superm1, banshee can be nasty to build :/ [04:08] BHSPitLappy, well i made no source changes to the source package [04:09] so it should have built fine [04:10] superm1, I don't even understand what should be different about it. [04:10] yeah i'm not too sure [04:11] shouldn't the libgpod changes impact even a vanilla banshee? /me tests [04:23] mryutz you can use this site to generate your lirc file http://lircconfig.commandir.com/ [04:24] I will post my file on pastebin [04:28] this is a generic lircd for the snapstream accepts all channels http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3116/ [04:28] pastebin inserts extra lines between [04:30] here is one of the lircd files I use....it uses channel 8 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3117/ [04:31] Thx nettow0822. I actually generated my own lircd conf file via a capture, but was having a booger of a time getting all the apps to treat the buttons the way that I wanted them to. I will check out the LIRC commander site - it looks much easier. [04:32] this is my lircmd (mouse) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3118/ [04:33] this is the lirc http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3119/ [04:36] this is the addition for the mouse function for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3120/ [04:39] MrYutz, what remote issues were you having? [04:39] nettow0822_, mythbuntu-lircrc-generator will take care of that as well [04:40] sorry just trying to help with what I know [04:40] nettow0822_, not a problem...just sharing the knowledge [04:41] nettow0822_, also..I maintain MLG so I always need good information to work with, as I am in the middle of a big upgrade [04:41] the site will generate lirc for more than just mythtv [04:44] foxbuntu are you having the same problem as me....your nick name has several underscores after it....is this the result of your nick being used by someone else? [04:44] naw [04:45] my inet dropped in and out earlier [04:45] nettow0822_, mlg generates a config for mythtv, vlc, mplayer, xine, xmess, xmame [04:46] and totem [04:46] most of the time I can't get on irc.... [04:47] with my nick name [04:56] is there a way to get a recorded show to be viewed on more than one frontend at the same time? [05:42] damnit, ubuntu 7.10 cd isn't booting on my main system. I got fed up with windows today and decided to switch. Im going to reburn the cd. [06:09] hansoffate, nice move, sorry to hear about the CD [06:18] hansoffate, what error are you getting? [06:20] i just tried my newly burnt cd, i am getting a kernel panic [06:21] i am burning kubuntu now, to see if i get a different result [06:21] foxbuntu: [06:24] hansoffate, do you know what type of CD-ROM you are using? [06:24] okay, so total linux noob here. ive managed to install a few various flavors and somehow manage to install VLC media player... thats about it... help! =) [06:25] TDK media, let me go check the dvd-rom drive [06:25] i guess first question i ask is how the heck do i change names? =) [06:26] MythbuntuGuest96, ask your questions [06:29] Anybody here? [06:29] foxbuntu: dvd-rw drive; this is the second time it booted to a black screen with just a blinking _ [06:30] hansoffate, but the brand of the drive, is it a samsung drive? [06:31] Anyone care to point me in the direction of information i can actually use? Im very fluent with windows =) But this whole linux thing is just way over my head.... Managed to get mythbuntu installed, but i cant seem to get any channels to scan, and if i manualy add channels all i get is static.. oddly enough, it seems like 2 frames of the same static over and over... How can i test my tv tuner card outside of the f [06:32] foxbuntu: wow, i thought i said sony ... sorry, didn't reread what i thoguht i typed [06:32] anyways, i just tried booting kubuntu, and it looks like its booting, it hasn't gotten fully into KDE, but its almost there, i think i'll be fine [06:38] foxbuntu: maybe not, it is stuck at a blank light blue screen with a mouse and nothing else [06:38] lol, maybe it's a sign [06:40] hansoffate, naw...just wait...sometimes it will just sit there when booting the livecd [06:43] anybody? not asking for someone to hold my hand.. just wanting pointed in the right direction. [06:45] MythbuntuGuest31: what do you mean? have you read the documentation at the website? [06:45] foxbuntu: its been at this screen for around 15 minutes [06:47] any suggestions? neither ubuntu or kubuntu boot [06:48] ive read the documentation, but its poorly oganised and cant make any sense of it whatsoever [06:48] i thought it was well organized, it should take you step by step [06:48] well,i followed install instructions, no problem, got to frontend, i guess it sorta works [06:49] but i cant find anything except for things that assume i know what im doing =) [06:49] right now, all i'd like to acomplish is see a single image of something from the tv tuner card that isnt static [06:51] i think i came across a .tar of drivers for this tuner card... but, here i am sitting at terminal beating my head agaisnt the wall beacuse i have zero clue what im doing, typing things like tar xzvf filename.tar [06:52] and getting errors that i dont understand. [06:52] what tuner? [06:52] bt878 chipset [06:53] software seemed to have picked it up, showing the right number of inputs of the proper type [06:53] im looking at the static tho and it dosnt look like static, its like its the same two frames of static over and over, no randomness to it [06:54] do you have it set to the right input that you have it connected with? [06:54] i _think_ so. [06:54] is the signal from an STB? [06:54] stb? [06:55] ive tried all kinds of various input configs... did the 'going down the list untill one works' method didnt work =) [06:55] oh, set top box, no, directly from wall. [06:57] do you have myth setup to the correct frequency? [06:58] i don't have myth setup in my house, just gave my parents my old box, and i just ordered new parts to build an HD one, so i can't tell you where it is [06:58] but you may have to set the frequency correctly, to IE us-cable [07:00] tried changing to various frequencys. Dont get anything different, just the same two frames of static. So im kinda leaning twoards card isnt installed properly, drivers or whatever... i honestly have no clue =) [07:01] unfortunatly everything i look for as far as anything to test tuner card outside of mythtv is all a forgein language to me... And i have no RL linux geek friends to help me with the basics =p [07:03] sorry, can't help you [07:04] foxbuntu: yea, still doesn't boot. First time i haven't had an ubuntu CD not boot on a computer [07:18] hansoffate, strange [07:19] yea [07:19] they told me to use the alternate disc [07:19] in the ubuntu channel [14:06] if d.dusha from the mythtv mailinglist is here or if someone is subscribing to the mailinglist. The best solution I think for controlling a Receiver via rs-232 is http://sourceforge.net/projects/hkontrol/ [14:06] only works for harman kardon recievers and you have to buy one of the higher end but still [14:07] I have just bought one, but not tested it out yet [15:15] Does mythbuntu have any integration with the bbc iplayer? also did you manage to get the flash conversion stuff working? [15:15] Daviey ^^^ [15:18] selinuxium: Answered elsewhere :) [15:18] :) [15:19] howdie folks [15:20] I have a remote here that I always have to recompile lirc to get to work, it's the mce edition of the pvr 150 the rc6 remote [15:20] anyways, I'm following the same instructions I used before to do the ./configure and then the make make install [15:20] but I'm getting an errpr that no c compiler is installed [15:21] sudo apt-get install gcc [15:21] :) [15:21] thnks [15:21] I knew how to apt-get it but I didn't know wht IT is [15:21] hehe [15:21] I'm apt-cache searching for c compiler and all this other shit ;) [15:22] configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [15:22] you ever seen that? [15:22] it went some of the way and then came up with that [15:22] savage1: install build-essentials [15:23] thanks [15:24] i wonder why this stuff isn't in tyhere already [15:24] must not take up too much space hehe [15:24] k it's working [15:24] shit now it wants the linux kernel source haha [15:24] lemme guess install source? [15:27] linux-source [15:29] alright [15:29] I can't get it to configure it keeps saying "configure: error: *** you need to have the Linux kernel source installed [15:29] for this driver [15:29] " [15:30] and I did apt-get install linux-source [15:30] and it said it was already installed [15:30] is there a difference between that and the kernel source [15:30] what is the trick to get the channel guide working with schedules direct? All i get is blank screen [15:30] I set the free 7 day trial of schedules direct up, and it works but I'm not getting channel data yet [15:31] i took notice that during the channel guide population i got alot of 401 errors [15:31] I exited mythtv to give it some time maybe it takes time to download or something? [15:31] it's been over 20 hrs now..lol [15:31] wow [15:31] I'm not sure man [15:32] mine wouldn't even display tv until I did schedules direct [15:32] it's weird [15:33] i need toi configure out how to load kernel source [15:34] i don't have tv either.Been working on this for over a week now with the same results [15:35] did you set up your capture card, do the retrive linup w/ sched direct, and then setup the video source and do a channel scan? [15:36] sudo apt-get install kernel-package [15:36] that's how it's done [15:37] i beleive it's setup correctly. I'm using the hauppauge pvr-150 card with remote [15:37] I had the issue w/ the damned video input [15:37] yeah I've got the 150 too, w/ the rc6 remote [15:37] it's a pain in the ass [15:37] I usually get the tv working but then the remote won't work [15:37] generally, I need to recompile the nrewest lirc and select mceusb2 [15:37] this is my like 5th time getting this fucker to work [15:38] so what's the best way to install the newest lirc [15:38] go to lirc.org [15:38] basically, wget it, then extract it, then go in and do a ./configure in the directory [15:39] this interface comes up and then you gotta chose your shit, do mceusb2 that's what I'm trying [15:39] then do the thing that says "save configuration and run configure" [15:39] that'll get it ready so you can make and make install it [15:40] ok i'll give that a try then [15:40] but you need to have the kernal source installed [15:40] which I don't know how to do [15:41] I thought it was sudo apt-get install kernel-package [15:43] anyone know how to get the same recorded show to play on two different frontends at the same time? [16:02] Mornin' all [16:52] Hello everyone! [16:52] Are there common reasons why mythwelcome would terminate when the frontend is closed? [17:26] Well i got it to work now but don't ask me how..lol I went into the terminal did an update and messed with some settings in mythtv now i have the program guide working [19:06] alright, I tried to do an upgrade a couple of weeks ago and it was updating mysql. it got stuck and I had to reboot. Now I can't get it to upgrade or update or anything cause it keeps trying to shutdown /var/run/mysqld but that doesn't exist [19:07] And I have no idea what to do now. Can any one give me a hand? [19:20] the last resort would be to re-install mythbuntu [19:21] not how to tell you to fix your problem other than re-install === chairman_ is now known as chairman [19:49] is there a free replacement for zap2it? [19:49] no [19:49] although there is a nominal fee replacement [19:50] is that question asked a lot? I know about the fee replacement [19:50] not really, it only effects people in the US or canada, and most decided that the $20/year fee is worth it [19:51] but we do get a question from time to time about it [19:51] there are other ways to get the data, but it always turns out that those ways are not very good [19:51] xml [19:52] no, xml is a good way to get it [19:52] some people use screen scrapers, but those pretty much suck, and any change of the website will render it pretty much useless [19:54] Then there was some other alternative that was a bit cheaper then $20 a year. but i never did get it working with mythtv yet. [19:54] what are those? [19:55] https://cttvlistings.net/ [19:55] That site mentions MythTV - but i could find no docs/info on setting it up with mythtv [19:55] it also has a free '4day ahead' listing [20:00] Hey all, anyone know who is in charge of the weekly Trunk builds? [20:00] yea, superm1 [20:00] why? [20:01] Iolaus, whats the problem? [20:01] hey [20:01] laga, Iolaus was asking [20:01] so, who wants to know about trunk builds? [20:04] why is this channel called ubuntu-mythtv and not just mythtv...... I'm only curious because I use gentoo [20:05] well [20:05] do you really need an answer? [20:05] I posted the bug I ran into here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu-trunk/+bug/177906 [20:05] * tgm4883_laptop smacks himself in the head [20:05] heh [20:05] that was classic [20:06] Iolaus: oh, thanks for remiding me! yes, that's easy to fix :) will be finxed in the next weekly build i hope. in the meantime you should be able to remove mythtv-common before installing the rest [20:06] yep I think its a big conspiracy its like ubuntu is trying to get there name on everything like lmce installs with kubuntu and there is no lmce in portage whats up with that [20:06] linuxbomb, probably maybe just perhaps if I had to guess and this is completely off the top of my head because this channel is dedicated to those who run mythtv on ubuntu or mythbuntu [20:07] laga: thanks for the heads up! I just do an apt-get remove on myth-common before doing the apt-get dist-upgrade? [20:07] linuxmce uses ubuntu as it's base [20:07] Iolaus: should be fine [20:07] Iolaus: i hope ;) [20:07] they shoul dof named it mceubuntu [20:07] laga: I'll give that a shot on my virtual machine and see if it works [20:08] McUbuntu [20:08] Dr_willis, would you like fries with that [20:08] tgm4883_laptop, I was just thinking that.. [20:08] i'll take 1 McUbuntu and a large coke [20:08] SuperSize your Disrto at McUbuntus! [20:10] I wonder if ubuntu and schedulesdirect.org are like you know.. [20:10] what? [20:10] at war? [20:10] in love? [20:10] $$ you know $$ [20:10] getting it on? [20:11] well since schedulesdirect.org works with mythtv, and mythtv is on all distro's, im not sure why you would think that [20:11] what about lmce? [20:11] how optimized is your gentoo? [20:11] what about it? [20:12] it runs on ubuntu [20:12] and your point is? [20:12] nevermind forget it [20:12] linuxmce is a combination of ubuntu and plutohome [20:12] plutohome itself runs on debian [20:13] mythbuntu runs on ubuntu, are you saying that we are missing our kickback from mark? [20:13] I'm not saying anymore [20:14] why [20:14] Secondly, even if schedulesdirect and ubuntu were in some sort of money agreement, so what? [20:14] there probably monitoring this [20:15] again, so what? [20:15] what does ubuntu have to gain? [20:16] what does ubuntu have to gain from what? from having an aggrement with schedules direct? [20:16] yes [20:17] i dont know, you tell me, you are the one that thinks that they have one [20:17] who is ubuntu's main competition? [20:17] um, redhat [20:18] think bigger [20:18] or microsoft [20:18] bigger than ms? [20:19] RIAA! [20:19] :) [20:19] ubuntu is trying to get in with the cable companys and they get there foot in the door with schedules direct [20:19] but SD works with all distros [20:19] your reasoning is flawed [20:20] not to mention that if Ubuntu is trying to compete directly with MS on the Media Center front, then channel data is not where they should be focusing on [20:20] I feel that Channel Data should be free from your cable provider.. but I guess thats Communist thinking. [20:21] If thats the case, they should be working on licensing agreements for DVD and satellite and cable companies [20:21] what is a pvr without channel data? [20:21] Dr_willis, what if you get your channels OTA? [20:21] linuxbomb, its a VCR that uses disk not tape. [20:22] I got a low end PVR that cant use any channel data. it can use that TVGUIDE+ # to get shows. but I just set it to record sci-fi all day and let it record. [20:22] linuxbomb, what does UBUNTU gain from an agreement with SD that everyone (including MS users) can use the channel data from? [20:23] thats what they want you to think [20:23] did you vote for george bush? [20:23] wtf are you even talking about [20:23] Bigfoot is running for Congress! [20:23] I dont see any sd stuff on microsoft's site but its all over mythtv's site [20:24] but it's not on Ubuntu's sit [20:24] e [20:24] but lmce runs on ubuntu and now they have this mythbuntu thing its called fusion [20:24] so wouldnt that point to an agreement between Mythtv and schedules direct [20:25] https://cttvlistings.net/ - is a competator also.. but i cant get it working with Mythtv yet. [20:25] linuxbomb, so wouldnt that point to an agreement between Mythtv and schedules direct [20:25] Dr_willis, they dont want it to work with mythtv [20:25] its powered by zap2it. [20:25] tgm4883_laptop, yes and mythtv + ubuntu [20:26] linuxbomb, they make a big deal/mention of MythTV on their site however. [20:26] Dr_willis, mythtv doesn't want it to work [20:26] mythtv/ubuntu [20:26] Dr_willis, linuxbomb one of Schedules Direct's founders is a MythTV developer [20:27] exactly [20:27] linuxbomb, I ask again, so what [20:27] so ubuntu wants to be the next time warner cable [20:28] and take over the world... [20:28] linuxbomb, wtf are you talking about, MythTV may have an agreement with SD, but not Ubuntu. [20:28] and they are using your money to do it [20:28] do you see the difference between Ubuntu and MythTV? [20:28] you mean mythbuntu [20:29] so what are your thoughts on Knoppmyth or Mythdora? [20:29] they dont work [20:29] I suppose that they are also being used for ubuntu domination? [20:29] and do you know why? [20:29] i'll be nice and let you finish your question [20:30] knoppmyth and mythdora ...... neither one worked for me , I dont think they work at all [20:30] its a cover [20:31] sure, just because they were here before mythbuntu, and people used them. but whatever [20:31] They both worked for me... I perfered Knoppmyth [20:31] * Dr_willis is totally confused now.. but figures it dosent matter. [20:32] Dr_willis, linuxbomb is gone, we don't need trolls here [20:32] Yep. :) [20:32] although what just happened will just fuel his crap [20:32]