[00:42] Anyone awake...? [00:42] I am [00:43] Theeagle seems to be constantly disruptive. One day its wahting hacking advice today it is programming and not liking our rules [00:43] Ubuntu fyi [00:43] I saw that. [00:43] Can someone please give him an attitude adjustment [00:44] Before that it was how to remotely get into someones system and be disruptive etc [01:00] hello, some italian op ? [01:00] emgent, -it-ops [01:00] ok, thanks :P [01:01] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !no, !vbox is VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as `virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for !Gutsy, !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper. Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox. Help for non-free version in #vbox [01:01] * MenZa cleans his teeth. [01:01] VirtualBox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://www.virtualbox.org/ for !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper - Setup details at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [01:02] !no virtualbox is VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox [01:02] I'll remember that LjL [01:03] That's better. [01:13] please, beware of emgent in case he tries to gain the favor on anyone/anything. he seems pretty good at pretending he's a well-known developer, or something... however, his last boutade was sending a goatze-like link to several people in an Ubuntu channel - and that's just the last in a series. [01:14] LjL: Thanks for the heads up [02:32] what's the policy on bots? [02:32] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (FaCeLifT) [02:32] no unauthorised bots [02:32] crdlb called the ops in #ubuntu (FaCeLifT) [02:32] gah lag -_- [02:33] ok [02:33] klined [03:03] #ubuntu-offtopic: Darealterry is looking very o4o-y. [03:05] MenZa, !o4o pretty much highlights us :) [03:05] Hehehe. [03:05] Thought I would notify -ops anyway. [03:13] MenZa: it's like, you call him o4o and then invite him there...? [03:14] * MenZa lifts eyebrow [03:15] well i didn't invite him [03:23] MenZa: i'm off to bed. good luck you'll need it [03:23] LjL, one request. [03:23] shoot [03:23] LjL, Seveas' channel management script (I believe it's Seveas). [03:23] i don't know a thing about it [03:23] i'm on konversation [03:23] With +o $self, /remove x, -o $self etc. [03:23] Or is that done plainly with aliases? [03:23] chanserv.pl or something [03:24] Cheers [03:24] i really don't know where it's found [03:24] Probably the Wiki. [03:24] there's also some auto_bleh [03:24] Sleep well, LjL. [03:25] Does anyone here have a copy of this, chanserv.pl? [03:25] MenZa: it's chanserv.py and it's on !seveas site [03:26] Cheers. [03:26] I just fell over it, actually. [03:26] Aw, it's xchat. [03:27] MenZa: there is one for irssi [03:28] Oh? [03:29] do you use irssi? [03:29] I do, yes. [03:29] I don't see it on Dennis' site. [03:32] nalioth: Do you know where I can find this irssi script? [03:34] MenZa: sure [03:34] ask uncle google "auto_bleh.pl" [03:35] :) [03:35] That works, cheers. [03:42] nalioth: Not sure if you're aware, but spammer: i=Mitt08@h16.170.134.98.ip.windstream.net [03:42] ardchoille: what's the time stamp on that spam? [03:43] i'll bet it predates this time stamp: >> (K-line) of GoMittGo (i=Mitt08@h16.170.134.98.ip.windstream.net) [03:43] About 27 mins ago [03:43] Ok. [03:43] ardchoille: please preface your reports with a time :) [03:44] I just got back to the computer, didn't know if you knew yet [03:44] you kinda had me going there (as I klined all of his IPs) [03:44] Sorry, will preface with time from now on [04:11] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (yoface) [04:13] yoface called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:13] dealt with [04:14] ubotu: tell yoface about botabuse [04:15] In ubotu, yoface said: what is this [04:26] stdin: Good job :) [04:26] He was walking on the edge there [04:27] I was waiting, already had the command typed in [04:27] hehe [04:34] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (Leiah) [04:35] klined [04:36] That was quick. Well, the klining and the banning too. [04:36] that user was acting the foo' in other channels [04:37] I figured it was headed that way as soon as he/she joined and said "Leiah is female" and then "Leiah anyone?" [04:37] nalioth: hahaha [05:35] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (MELIANTE) [05:39] nixternal: why the -b? [05:39] good apology and a promise not to repeat the offense again [05:40] Ah [08:43] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [08:51] elkbuntu: your slip is still showing ;-) [08:52] Myrtti, eh? [08:52] @ ;-) [08:52] so? [08:52] :Þ [08:52] kekekeke [08:52] Myrtti, are you aware of any awake staffers, the exploiter isnt klined yet [08:53] nada :-/ [09:28] guys do we know a rootard [n=rootard@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:465f] ? [09:29] I don't recognise that nick [09:29] he's sitting in #ubuntu-devel [09:30] first time I've since a hostmask like that :) [09:30] ipv6 [09:30] nothing new [09:30] yup [09:31] * Tm_T hugs Myrtti [09:31] aha, right [09:36] Why was I invited to #ubuntu.com? [09:36] 20:30 >> Invitejoin: Joined #ubuntu.com (Invited by Ubuworker). [09:37] AndrewB: spam [09:37] Oh [09:37] AndrewB, how long ago? [09:37] well its 0937 and that was 2030 [09:37] AndrewB, ok cool. i wasnt sure since it's 20:38 here now [09:38] nal locked it up as soon as we found it [09:38] :) Cool [09:38] the channels been killed a long time ago [09:38] Seem to have been having a few script kiddies last night [09:38] y'all might want to join #ubuntu-irc [09:39] Myrtti: is that not operators only? [09:39] nope [09:40] International Ubuntu IRC operators channel [09:40] aye [09:40] AndrewB: this channel is [09:40] Ah [10:02] hmmm, what is the protocol with offensive names? (shitsweak - #k ) (is it even offensive to you?) [10:03] jussi01: watch [10:03] this channel is really for ops of the main channels such as #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, etc [10:03] + problems [10:04] yeah [10:04] * Tm_T hugs elkbuntu [10:04] :) [10:05] Tm_T: :) [10:05] jussi01: see, it's simple [10:06] Tm_T: yeah, I was not sure if it should be done in channel or not. [10:06] jussi01: sure, then others can comment too if he argue against, as, if they're ok with it [10:06] Im just makin sure I dont step on toes :D [10:06] if it's clear case, just remove [10:07] cool. [10:07] but those cases you don't know if it's offensive or not, ask, if they refuse and noone makes problem about it, just leave :) [11:15] scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (AmL) === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [12:19] Hello, I was forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic and applied the suggested Fix 1. I'd like to re-join #ubuntu and appriciate any help with this. [12:20] Sinistral_: ther should be someone along shortly to get you tested. Im sorry, I can help here. [12:21] Thanks. No haste, it's not urgent :o) [12:27] Sinistral_: let's see [12:31] bantracker is down [12:32] * jussi01 hugs Myrtti... [12:35] there we go. [12:35] have a good one, and consider connecting to freenode using the port 8001 in the future [12:36] ^ Sinistral_ [12:36] Thanks again and have a good one, too! :o) [12:36] _o> [12:36] see ya [12:37] someone should send a email explaining how the tests are done in a bomb-proof way [12:37] 'cause I'm always left with a doubt that I'm doing it wrong [12:38] * jussi01 doesnt know how to do the test, so cant help. [12:38] I agree though === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [12:59] scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (nikita) [14:22] hmmm, how does one go about kickforwarding/banforwarding? [14:23] you add the channel where you want them to join with ! in the end [14:23] jussi01: /mode #channel1 +b nick!ident@host!#channel2 [14:23] Myrtti!myrtti@myrtti.fi!##windows [14:24] LjL: could you humor me and tell me in /msg how the testing should be done properly? [14:24] DCC testing? [14:24] Myrtti: ahh, thanks :) did youhave an alias in your list for that? [14:24] LjL: yeah [14:24] jussi01: nope [14:26] but you can add it quite easily though [14:26] I can do it when I've done /dcctest [14:27] Myrtti: thanks :D [14:38] volunteers? [14:38] * PriceChild waves [14:38] Morning (here) [14:39] /me wonders if Pricey really waves in a volunteer way [14:39] I was :) [14:39] Wasn't waving to you Jack_Sparrow :P [14:39] Now my feelings are hurt [14:39] Morning Myrtti [14:39] nope, didn't work [14:39] Ouch [14:40] what's the %Price... for? [14:41] do you want an honest answer or will a smile suffice? [14:41] :-) [14:41] no, the % <- [14:41] PriceChild: Needs to use more than one finger when waving [14:41] jpatrick, means "mute" [14:41] ah [14:42] jpatrick, allows people to join/part but not speak [14:42] I see [14:43] jussi01: I've got no idea how to get it work, irssi's too clever for me this time [14:43] How is everyone today... "Mom" gets out of Hospital tomorrow.. 4yr old has been a sweetheart [14:53] Jack_Sparrow, are you an op in one of the main channels? [14:55] Nope [14:57] Jack_Sparrow, this channel is for the main ops organisation and taking complaints, it's not for lurking or chitchat [14:57] Sorry about that.. been a long wek === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick [14:58] I am just one of the regular helpers in channel === Dave2 is now known as _Dave2_ [15:22] !ask [15:22] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [15:22] meh [15:22] !ask [15:22] Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [15:22] is that too wordy and the -- needs to be balanced [15:56] i'm leaving. problems with the bots -> ask seveas, he has the password, account "bots" or "ubot4" or "ubotwo", otherwise kick [15:56] happy new year everyone [15:56] happy new year LjL [15:56] see you later [15:57] 17:53 < itaqu> http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies [15:57] 17:54 @,- itaqu [n=itaqu@dslb-088-072-010-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu [requested by Myrtti: "tut-tut"] [15:57] should I ban him too? [15:57] yeah Myrtti that's a ban [15:57] best to stop coming back [15:57] I hate doing those [15:58] I get them all borked and unbanning doesn't work and bwah [15:58] /unban -last [16:06] @now rome [16:06] Current time in Europe/Rome: December 30 2007, 17:06:06 - Next meeting: Edubuntu meeting in 2 days [16:06] Myrtti: are we repelling boarders? [16:06] huh? [16:08] Myrtti: why are you opped in the ops channel? [16:08] oh, sorry [16:08] totally forgot them after unbanning pricey [16:09] you should've said earlier my slip was showing [16:09] i'll remember that, Myrtti [16:10] :-P [17:07] jolly good, now I've got Shizuo in pm [17:08] Myrtti: lucky you :) [17:10] nalioth: would it be a hassle to drop my wikipedia cloak? [17:11] Myrtti: what cloak would you like? [17:12] none, I'll apply for ubuntu membership when I've got time [17:12] my myrtti.fi showing is ok [17:13] that idiot is working his way into my ignore list [17:14] very very very fast [17:14] Myrtti: your .fi is showing :P [17:15] jolly good [17:18] I'm not going to touch that ban [17:18] if someone feels something has to be done for it, feel free [17:19] I think I'm too biased to deal with it === no0tic_ is now known as no0tic [18:02] how would people feel about me taking very obviously noisy nick changes and forwarding them here with a /msg ubotu away to understand your removal from #ubuntu ? [18:02] I wouldn't mind [18:03] Myrtti, thanks ;-) also important is there any one who would actively object? [18:03] No objection here [18:04] ardchoille, ta [18:04] I think it would add some value to those who /away [18:04] /me huggles her screenaway.pl [18:05] if someone says they were not using the right nick when they joined ask them to consider joining with the right one ;-) [18:05] politely [18:06] Myrtti: Thanks for the idea, screen_away.pl seems rather nice. [18:07] "very obviously noisy nick changes" - do you mean "several in a short space of time"? [18:07] PriceChild, that and [18:07] /nick zzz_nick [18:07] /nick Myrtti_bathroom [18:07] and "crdlb|eating" :) [18:07] i'd not worry about the latter [18:07] I hate those [18:07] /nick Myrtti_shopping_LOLOLO [18:07] /nick zzz_gonetosleep [18:08] but several in a short space, sure [18:08] nalioth, I am 100% sure we have trolls doing it cos we don't action it [18:08] I had stand up rows in pm with them a while ago [18:08] nalioth: there's plenty of good reasons of not using nickchanges to mark that you're away [18:08] the usual who the * do you think you are [18:08] and so for [18:09] Myrtti: yes, i know. [18:09] forth [18:09] just gave my opinion :) [18:09] and they *should* be addressed [18:09] I normally just remove the ones that do /nick nick_sleep with /msg ubotu away as the remove message when i see them [18:09] PriceChild, I want to make it very obvious to trolls that we are taking it seriously [18:10] shall we give it a shot for a week and see how it goes? [18:11] sure [18:12] Next question should we put this in the topic? NOTICE - nick changing in this channel may result in removal [18:12] or Notice: nick changing in this channel may result in removal [18:12] just to cover this activity>? [18:12] "too-much" nick changing sounds better to me [18:13] jpatrick, too much means you are measuring it [18:13] if you get 10 people do it back to back [18:13] is that too much [18:13] an obvious where a nick is killed and then taken over is not what we are talking about here [18:14] it is zZzZ_gone_asleep [18:14] or something like that |eating [18:14] we don't need life commentaries [18:14] long live /away [18:14] :-) [18:14] thre is that [18:15] and it is what we need to encourage [18:15] actually here we go [18:15] please note that nick changing in this channel may result in removal /msg ubotu away [18:15] put that in the topic [18:16] in the middle before the flash announce [18:17] I do that for #kubuntu? [18:18] if you have a serious problem with it [18:18] we seem to in #ubuntu [18:18] /CSTOPIC http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Myrtti hates public aways | Vote for your favorite applications in #ubuntu-bots [18:18] that for #ubuntu-offtopic ;-) [18:19] naah [18:20] hmm, not many on #kubuntu [18:20] ompaul: why put it in the topic? it's already in the guidelines [18:21] nalioth, cos I want it there to justify the removals easily [18:21] nalioth, one less argument [18:21] ompaul: with trolls, there will _always_ be an argument [18:22] nalioth, yes, however not that one :) [18:22] and that is fine cos it is here [18:37] PriceChild, if that thing is still scrolling tell me and I quit [18:49] ardchoille: I haven't fully understood your "!guidelines | Blissex" [18:49] jpatrick: He was talking about his "manly appendage length" [18:50] ah, missed that.. [19:07] ardchoille: his umbrella ? [19:07] his girlfriend/wife ? [19:07] * nalioth puzzles over 'manly appendage' [19:08] Ok, quick question. I had a situation earlier where I called !ot and someone commented that it wasnt really ot, however it was, even though it was kubuntu discussion it was not support. The question I have is what is the best way to deal with people who think that they know better than the ops? [19:08] nalioth: Notes [19:08] *noted [19:09] ardchoille: i'm just messin' with ya [19:09] i probably spend too much time on the crosswords [19:09] * crdlb directs attention to #ubuntu [19:10] nalioth: lol [19:11] jussi01: I always refer to how long I've used ubuntu [19:11] jussi01: it usually shuts them up ;-) [19:11] Myrtti: that doesnt really work for me, as Ive only been using since edgy... [19:11] cripes, I sound like a druggo :P [19:12] jussi01: too bad ;-) [19:12] <-- warty user [19:12] well actually I dist-upgraded to hoary flight 2 or like [19:14] jussi01: point them to the guidelines, then /remove if they continue to be offtopic [19:15] jussi01, normally explaining that "ontopic" is only ubuntu support usually works, if not then remove [19:15] stdin: it wasnt the offtopic person, just some other person commenting [19:15] jussi01: how long have you used irc then? [19:15] ;-) [19:15] Myrtti: since edgy... [19:16] jussi01: d'oh [19:16] jussi01: then just point them to the guidelines, (and ask then to continue discussion of if it's offtopic or not in -offtopic ;) [19:18] * jussi01 thanks everyone, i dont know what Id do without you. :) === crd1b is now known as crdlb [21:43] Is it best to /kick or !away for obvious public away's like: ~~~ |Dreams| is away: Gone away for now. [21:45] what I was saying was remove them to here with /msg ubotu away [21:45] so they get the idea [21:45] ok [22:44] LjL -- is my banishment over yet? [22:44] :\ [22:45] Tiz been about a month [22:54] can you unban me elkbuntu? [22:57] bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu () [23:02] Kagar, very unlikely given your history that anyone but LjL might lift that ban - and the bad news is that he will not be back until next year [23:03] it is not a month it is more like three weeks [23:08] :( [23:08] when you say "your history" makes it sound like I'm some criminal... [23:10] okay let me be more exact [23:11] your behaviour on IRC would not inspire anyone to lift your ban [23:13] danke [23:13] this behaviour was noted in particular on the following dates: Apr 19, Aug 20, Sep 03, Sep 17, Oct22, Nov4, x2, Dec 02, Dec 08 and Dec 09 [23:13] jeez, ha [23:14] though, I think some of them were unjust -- due to some filter words came up, I believe and was kicked without context -- meh [23:14] I can quote a line from each of them if you want [23:14] but actually I won't [23:14] cos I am not going to do that much work [23:14] heh [23:15] all right, understandable. [23:15] now is there anything else? [23:15] mm, not really. Have a good new years. [23:15] I'll try [23:15] mm [23:15] enjoy yours [23:16] What I nice fellow. [23:16] *a [23:16] PriceChild, but you is a nice fellow! [23:16] I always think its funny when you're thinking two things and manage to convey neither [23:17] PriceChild, no, for me that is normal [23:19] lol [23:19] ardchoille, as you well know :) [23:19] :) [23:20] ompaul: Happens to the best of us [23:20] ardchoille, I think I got that thing worked out [23:20] ompaul: Did coffee help? :) [23:21] ardchoille, who knows, the env got new variables mapped, seemed to do the trick [23:21] Ah :) [23:35] is there any way i can be unbanned from #ubuntu please? [23:39] Remember why you were banned? [23:40] yes [23:42] i asked a question in the channel even though i do not use ubuntu. it was not a distribution specific question. i had asked in ##linux and #gentoo, but no one knew the answer. i figured i would try asking in #ubuntu, and then someone noticed i had asked in #gentoo and i was kick-banned. i won't do in again [23:43] s/in/it [23:43] That's not quite the whole story though it is... [23:43] from your account you appear *extremely* hard done by [23:44] well i pissed off an op [23:45] from the logs, it seems like it was a pretty distribution specific questin [23:45] o [23:45] I'm pretty sure things like hal and ntfs drivers are implemented differently in gentoo and Ubuntu. [23:46] ah i remember now [23:46] But that's not the point. [23:46] it turns out the problem was related to a bug in the kernel driver [23:46] i was told [23:49] never mind [23:49] You were told you were offtopic in #ubuntu, you were told where you should go. #ubuntu is a ridiculously busy place. You aren't going to get a decent gentoo answer in #ubuntu, and you're going to confuse helpers. [23:49] That's the bottom line [23:49] k sorry [23:49] !guidelines [23:49] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [23:49] Take a read please. [23:50] ok [23:54] i read it