[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone awake...?
[00:42] <ardchoille> I am
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Theeagle seems to be constantly disruptive. One day its wahting hacking advice today it is programming and not liking our rules
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu fyi
[00:43] <ardchoille> I saw that.
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Can someone please give him an attitude adjustment
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Before that it was how to remotely get into someones system and be disruptive etc
[01:00] <emgent> hello, some italian op ?
[01:00] <no0tic> emgent, -it-ops
[01:00] <emgent> ok, thanks :P
[01:01] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !no, !vbox is <reply> VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as `virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for !Gutsy, !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper. Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox. Help for non-free version in #vbox
[01:01]  * MenZa cleans his teeth.
[01:01] <LjL> VirtualBox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://www.virtualbox.org/ for !Feisty, !Edgy and !Dapper - Setup details at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[01:02] <LjL> !no virtualbox is <reply> VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox
[01:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[01:03] <MenZa> That's better.
[01:13] <LjL> please, beware of emgent in case he tries to gain the favor on anyone/anything. he seems pretty good at pretending he's a well-known developer, or something... however, his last boutade was sending a goatze-like link to several people in an Ubuntu channel - and that's just the last in a series.
[01:14] <ardchoille> LjL: Thanks for the heads up
[02:32] <hdvalence> what's the policy on bots?
[02:32] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (FaCeLifT)
[02:32] <elkbuntu> no unauthorised bots
[02:32] <ubotu> crdlb called the ops in #ubuntu (FaCeLifT)
[02:32] <crdlb> gah lag -_-
[02:33] <hdvalence> ok
[02:33] <nalioth> klined
[03:03] <MenZa> #ubuntu-offtopic: Darealterry is looking very o4o-y.
[03:05] <LjL> MenZa, !o4o pretty much highlights us :)
[03:05] <MenZa> Hehehe.
[03:05] <MenZa> Thought I would notify -ops anyway.
[03:13] <LjL> MenZa: it's like, you call him o4o and then invite him there...?
[03:14]  * MenZa lifts eyebrow
[03:15] <LjL> well i didn't invite him
[03:23] <LjL> MenZa: i'm off to bed. good luck you'll need it
[03:23] <MenZa> LjL, one request.
[03:23] <LjL> shoot
[03:23] <MenZa> LjL, Seveas' channel management script (I believe it's Seveas).
[03:23] <LjL> i don't know a thing about it
[03:23] <LjL> i'm on konversation
[03:23] <MenZa> With +o $self, /remove x, -o $self etc.
[03:23] <MenZa> Or is that done plainly with aliases?
[03:23] <LjL> chanserv.pl or something
[03:24] <MenZa> Cheers
[03:24] <LjL> i really don't know where it's found
[03:24] <MenZa> Probably the Wiki.
[03:24] <LjL> there's also some auto_bleh
[03:24] <MenZa> Sleep well, LjL.
[03:25] <MenZa> Does anyone here have a copy of this, chanserv.pl?
[03:25] <nalioth> MenZa: it's chanserv.py and it's on !seveas site
[03:26] <MenZa> Cheers.
[03:26] <MenZa> I just fell over it, actually.
[03:26] <MenZa> Aw, it's xchat.
[03:27] <nalioth> MenZa: there is one for irssi
[03:28] <MenZa> Oh?
[03:29] <nalioth> do you use irssi?
[03:29] <MenZa> I do, yes.
[03:29] <MenZa> I don't see it on Dennis' site.
[03:32] <MenZa> nalioth: Do you know where I can find this irssi script?
[03:34] <nalioth> MenZa: sure
[03:34] <nalioth> ask uncle google "auto_bleh.pl"
[03:35] <MenZa> :)
[03:35] <MenZa> That works, cheers.
[03:42] <ardchoille> nalioth: Not sure if you're aware, but spammer: i=Mitt08@h16.170.134.98.ip.windstream.net
[03:42] <nalioth> ardchoille: what's the time stamp on that spam?
[03:43] <nalioth> i'll bet it predates this time stamp:  >> (K-line) of GoMittGo (i=Mitt08@h16.170.134.98.ip.windstream.net)
[03:43] <ardchoille> About 27 mins ago
[03:43] <ardchoille> Ok.
[03:43] <nalioth> ardchoille: please preface your reports with a time  :)
[03:44] <ardchoille> I just got back to the computer, didn't know if you knew yet
[03:44] <nalioth> you kinda had me going there (as I klined all of his IPs)
[03:44] <ardchoille> Sorry, will preface with time from now on
[04:11] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (yoface)
[04:13] <ubotu> yoface called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[04:13] <nalioth> dealt with
[04:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yoface about botabuse
[04:15] <ubotu> In ubotu, yoface said: what is this
[04:26] <ardchoille> stdin: Good job :)
[04:26] <ardchoille> He was walking on the edge there
[04:27] <stdin> I was waiting, already had the command typed in
[04:27] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:34] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (Leiah)
[04:35] <nalioth> klined
[04:36] <Pici> That was quick. Well, the klining and the banning too.
[04:36] <nalioth> that user was acting the foo' in other channels
[04:37] <ardchoille> I figured it was headed that way as soon as he/she joined and said "Leiah is female" and then "Leiah anyone?"
[04:37] <ardchoille> nalioth: hahaha
[05:35] <ubotu> nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (MELIANTE)
[05:39] <tritium> nixternal: why the -b?
[05:39] <nixternal> good apology and a promise not to repeat the offense again
[05:40] <tritium> Ah
[08:43] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[08:51] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: your slip is still showing ;-)
[08:52] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, eh?
[08:52] <Myrtti> @ ;-)
[08:52] <elkbuntu> so?
[08:52] <elkbuntu> :Þ
[08:52] <Myrtti> kekekeke
[08:52] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, are you aware of any awake staffers, the exploiter isnt klined yet
[08:53] <Myrtti> nada :-/
[09:28] <jpatrick> guys do we know a rootard [n=rootard@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:465f] ?
[09:29] <ardchoille> I don't recognise that nick
[09:29] <jpatrick> he's sitting in #ubuntu-devel
[09:30] <jpatrick> first time I've since a hostmask like that :)
[09:30] <Tm_T> ipv6
[09:30] <Tm_T> nothing new
[09:30] <Myrtti> yup
[09:31]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[09:31] <jpatrick> aha, right
[09:36] <AndrewB> Why was I invited to #ubuntu.com?
[09:36] <AndrewB> 20:30 >> Invitejoin: Joined #ubuntu.com (Invited by Ubuworker).
[09:37] <Tm_T> AndrewB: spam
[09:37] <AndrewB> Oh
[09:37] <elkbuntu> AndrewB, how long ago?
[09:37] <AndrewB> well its 0937  and that was 2030
[09:37] <elkbuntu> AndrewB, ok cool. i wasnt sure since it's 20:38 here now
[09:38] <elkbuntu> nal locked it up as soon as we found it
[09:38] <AndrewB> :) Cool
[09:38] <Myrtti> the channels been killed a long time ago
[09:38] <AndrewB> Seem to have been having a few script kiddies last night
[09:38] <Myrtti> y'all might want to join #ubuntu-irc
[09:39] <AndrewB> Myrtti: is that not operators only?
[09:39] <Tm_T> nope
[09:40] <AndrewB> International Ubuntu IRC operators channel
[09:40] <Tm_T> aye
[09:40] <Myrtti> AndrewB: this channel is
[09:40] <AndrewB> Ah
[10:02] <jussi01> hmmm, what is the protocol with offensive names? (shitsweak - #k ) (is it even offensive to you?)
[10:03] <Tm_T> jussi01: watch
[10:03] <elkbuntu> this channel is really for ops of the main channels such as #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, etc
[10:03] <Tm_T> + problems
[10:04] <elkbuntu> yeah
[10:04]  * Tm_T hugs elkbuntu 
[10:04] <elkbuntu> :)
[10:05] <jussi01> Tm_T: :)
[10:05] <Tm_T> jussi01: see, it's simple
[10:06] <jussi01> Tm_T: yeah, I was not sure if it should be done in channel or not.
[10:06] <Tm_T> jussi01: sure, then others can comment too if he argue against, as, if they're ok with it
[10:06] <jussi01> Im just makin sure I dont step on toes :D
[10:06] <Tm_T> if it's clear case, just remove
[10:07] <jussi01> cool.
[10:07] <Tm_T> but those cases you don't know if it's offensive or not, ask, if they refuse and noone makes problem about it, just leave :)
[11:15] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (AmL)
[12:19] <Sinistral_> Hello, I was forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic and applied the suggested Fix 1. I'd like to re-join #ubuntu and appriciate any help with this.
[12:20] <jussi01> Sinistral_: ther should be someone along shortly to get you tested. Im sorry, I can help here.
[12:21] <Sinistral_> Thanks. No haste, it's not urgent :o)
[12:27] <Myrtti> Sinistral_: let's see
[12:31] <Myrtti> bantracker is down
[12:32]  * jussi01 hugs Myrtti... 
[12:35] <Myrtti> there we go.
[12:35] <Myrtti> have a good one, and consider connecting to freenode using the port 8001 in the future
[12:36] <Myrtti> ^ Sinistral_
[12:36] <Sinistral_> Thanks again and have a good one, too! :o)
[12:36] <Myrtti> _o>
[12:36] <Sinistral_> see ya
[12:37] <Myrtti> someone should send a email explaining how the tests are done in a bomb-proof way
[12:37] <Myrtti> 'cause I'm always left with a doubt that I'm doing it wrong
[12:38]  * jussi01 doesnt know how to do the test, so cant help. 
[12:38] <jussi01> I agree though
[12:59] <ubotu> scguy318 called the ops in #ubuntu (nikita)
[14:22] <jussi01> hmmm, how does one go about kickforwarding/banforwarding?
[14:23] <Myrtti> you add the channel where you want them to join with ! in the end
[14:23] <LjL> jussi01: /mode #channel1 +b nick!ident@host!#channel2
[14:23] <Myrtti> Myrtti!myrtti@myrtti.fi!##windows
[14:24] <Myrtti> LjL: could you humor me and tell me in /msg how the testing should be done properly?
[14:24] <LjL> DCC testing?
[14:24] <jussi01> Myrtti: ahh, thanks :) did youhave an alias in your list for that?
[14:24] <Myrtti> LjL: yeah
[14:24] <Myrtti> jussi01: nope
[14:26] <Myrtti> but you can add it quite easily though
[14:26] <Myrtti> I can do it when I've done /dcctest
[14:27] <jussi01> Myrtti: thanks :D
[14:38] <Myrtti> volunteers?
[14:38]  * PriceChild waves
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning (here)
[14:39] <Myrtti> /me wonders if Pricey really waves in a volunteer way
[14:39] <PriceChild> I was :)
[14:39] <PriceChild> Wasn't waving to you Jack_Sparrow :P
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Now my feelings are hurt
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Myrtti
[14:39] <Myrtti> nope, didn't work
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Ouch
[14:40] <jpatrick> what's the %Price... for?
[14:41] <Myrtti> do you want an honest answer or will a smile suffice?
[14:41] <Myrtti> :-)
[14:41] <jpatrick> no, the % <-
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: Needs to use more than one finger when waving
[14:41] <PriceChild> jpatrick, means "mute"
[14:41] <jpatrick> ah
[14:42] <PriceChild> jpatrick, allows people to join/part but not speak
[14:42] <jpatrick> I see
[14:43] <Myrtti> jussi01: I've got no idea how to get it work, irssi's too clever for me this time
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> How is everyone today...  "Mom" gets out of Hospital tomorrow..  4yr old has been a sweetheart
[14:53] <elkbuntu> Jack_Sparrow, are you an op in one of the main channels?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope
[14:57] <elkbuntu> Jack_Sparrow, this channel is for the main ops organisation and taking complaints, it's not for lurking or chitchat
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry about that..  been a long wek
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> I am just one of the regular helpers in channel
[15:22] <ompaul> !ask
[15:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:22] <ompaul> meh
[15:22] <ompaul> !ask
[15:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:22] <ompaul> is that too wordy and the -- needs to be balanced
[15:56] <LjL> i'm leaving. problems with the bots -> ask seveas, he has the password, account "bots" or "ubot4" or "ubotwo", otherwise kick
[15:56] <LjL> happy new year everyone
[15:56] <jpatrick> happy new year LjL
[15:56] <jpatrick> see you later
[15:57] <Myrtti> 17:53 < itaqu> http://www.hotgirlclub.net.ms check out hot girl movies
[15:57] <Myrtti> 17:54 @,- itaqu [n=itaqu@dslb-088-072-010-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left  #ubuntu [requested by Myrtti: "tut-tut"]
[15:57] <Myrtti> should I ban him too?
[15:57] <LjL> yeah Myrtti that's a ban
[15:57] <jpatrick> best to stop coming back
[15:57] <Myrtti> I hate doing those
[15:58] <Myrtti> I get them all borked and unbanning doesn't work and bwah
[15:58] <jpatrick>  /unban -last
[16:06] <nalioth> @now rome
[16:06] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Rome: December 30 2007, 17:06:06 - Next meeting: Edubuntu meeting in 2 days
[16:06] <nalioth> Myrtti: are we repelling boarders?
[16:06] <Myrtti> huh?
[16:08] <nalioth> Myrtti: why are you opped in the ops channel?
[16:08] <Myrtti> oh, sorry
[16:08] <Myrtti> totally forgot them after unbanning pricey
[16:09] <Myrtti> you should've said earlier my slip was showing
[16:09] <nalioth> i'll remember that, Myrtti
[16:10] <Myrtti> :-P
[17:07] <Myrtti> jolly good, now I've got Shizuo in pm
[17:08] <nalioth> Myrtti: lucky you  :)
[17:10] <Myrtti> nalioth: would it be a hassle to drop my wikipedia cloak?
[17:11] <nalioth> Myrtti: what cloak would you like?
[17:12] <Myrtti> none, I'll apply for ubuntu membership when I've got time
[17:12] <Myrtti> my myrtti.fi showing is ok
[17:13] <Myrtti> that idiot is working his way into my ignore list
[17:14] <Myrtti> very very very fast
[17:14] <nalioth> Myrtti: your .fi is showing   :P
[17:15] <Myrtti> jolly good
[17:18] <Myrtti> I'm not going to touch that ban
[17:18] <Myrtti> if someone feels something has to be done for it, feel free
[17:19] <Myrtti> I think I'm too biased to deal with it
[18:02] <ompaul> how would people feel about me taking very obviously noisy nick changes and forwarding them here with a /msg ubotu away to understand your removal from #ubuntu ?
[18:02] <Myrtti> I wouldn't mind
[18:03] <ompaul> Myrtti, thanks ;-)  also important is there any one who would actively object?
[18:03] <ardchoille> No objection here
[18:04] <ompaul> ardchoille, ta
[18:04] <ompaul> I think it would add some value to those who /away
[18:04] <Myrtti> /me huggles her screenaway.pl
[18:05] <ompaul> if someone says they were not using the right nick when they joined ask them to consider joining with the right one ;-)
[18:05] <ompaul> politely
[18:06] <ardchoille> Myrtti: Thanks for the idea, screen_away.pl seems rather nice.
[18:07] <PriceChild> "very obviously noisy nick changes" - do you mean "several in a short space of time"?
[18:07] <ompaul> PriceChild, that and
[18:07] <ompaul>  /nick zzz_nick
[18:07] <Myrtti> /nick Myrtti_bathroom
[18:07] <crdlb> and "crdlb|eating" :)
[18:07] <nalioth> i'd not worry about the latter
[18:07] <ardchoille> I hate those
[18:07] <Myrtti> /nick Myrtti_shopping_LOLOLO
[18:07] <ompaul>  /nick zzz_gonetosleep
[18:08] <nalioth> but several in a short space, sure
[18:08] <ompaul> nalioth, I am 100% sure we have trolls doing it cos we don't action it
[18:08] <ompaul> I had stand up rows in pm with them a while ago
[18:08] <Myrtti> nalioth: there's plenty of good reasons of not using nickchanges to mark that you're away
[18:08] <ompaul> the usual who the * do you think you are
[18:08] <ompaul> and so for
[18:09] <nalioth> Myrtti: yes, i know.
[18:09] <ompaul> forth
[18:09] <nalioth> just gave my opinion  :)
[18:09] <Myrtti> and they *should* be addressed
[18:09] <PriceChild> I normally just remove the ones that do /nick nick_sleep with /msg ubotu away as the remove message when i see them
[18:09] <ompaul> PriceChild, I want to make it very obvious to trolls that we are taking it seriously
[18:10] <ompaul> shall we give it a shot for a week and see how it goes?
[18:11] <Myrtti> sure
[18:12] <ompaul> Next question should we put this in the topic?   NOTICE - nick changing in this channel may result in removal
[18:12] <ompaul> or Notice: nick changing in this channel may result in removal
[18:12] <ompaul> just to cover this activity>?
[18:12] <jpatrick> "too-much" nick changing sounds better to me
[18:13] <ompaul> jpatrick, too much means you are measuring it
[18:13] <ompaul> if you get 10 people do it back to back
[18:13] <ompaul> is that too much
[18:13] <ompaul> an obvious where a nick is killed and then taken over is not what we are talking about here
[18:14] <ompaul> it is zZzZ_gone_asleep
[18:14] <ompaul> or something like that |eating
[18:14] <ompaul> we don't need life commentaries
[18:14] <jpatrick> long live /away
[18:14] <ompaul> :-)
[18:14] <ompaul> thre is that
[18:15] <ompaul> and it is what we need to encourage
[18:15] <ompaul> actually here we go
[18:15] <ompaul> please note that nick changing in this channel may result in removal /msg ubotu away
[18:15] <ompaul> put that in the topic
[18:16] <ompaul> in the middle before the flash announce
[18:17] <jpatrick> I do that for #kubuntu?
[18:18] <ompaul> if you have a serious problem with it
[18:18] <ompaul> we seem to in #ubuntu
[18:18] <Myrtti> /CSTOPIC http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Myrtti hates public aways | Vote for your favorite applications in #ubuntu-bots
[18:18] <Myrtti> that for #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[18:19] <Myrtti> naah
[18:20] <jpatrick> hmm, not many on #kubuntu
[18:20] <nalioth> ompaul: why put it in the topic? it's already in the guidelines
[18:21] <ompaul> nalioth, cos I want it there to justify the removals easily
[18:21] <ompaul> nalioth, one less argument
[18:21] <nalioth> ompaul: with trolls, there will _always_ be an argument
[18:22] <ompaul> nalioth, yes, however not that one :)
[18:22] <ompaul> and that is fine cos it is here
[18:37] <ompaul> PriceChild, if that thing is still scrolling tell me and I quit
[18:49] <jpatrick> ardchoille: I haven't fully understood your "!guidelines | Blissex"
[18:49] <ardchoille> jpatrick: He was talking about his "manly appendage length"
[18:50] <jpatrick> ah, missed that..
[19:07] <nalioth> ardchoille: his umbrella ?
[19:07] <nalioth> his girlfriend/wife ?
[19:07]  * nalioth puzzles over 'manly appendage'
[19:08] <jussi01> Ok, quick question. I had a situation earlier where I called !ot and someone commented that it wasnt really ot, however it was, even though it was kubuntu discussion it was not support. The question I have is what is the best way to deal with people who think that they know better than the ops?
[19:08] <ardchoille> nalioth: Notes
[19:08] <ardchoille> *noted
[19:09] <nalioth> ardchoille: i'm just messin' with ya
[19:09] <nalioth> i probably spend too much time on the crosswords
[19:09]  * crdlb directs attention to #ubuntu
[19:10] <ardchoille> nalioth: lol
[19:11] <Myrtti> jussi01: I always refer to how long I've used ubuntu
[19:11] <Myrtti> jussi01: it usually shuts them up ;-)
[19:11] <jussi01> Myrtti: that doesnt really work for me, as Ive only been using since edgy...
[19:11] <jussi01> cripes, I sound like a druggo :P
[19:12] <Myrtti> jussi01: too bad ;-)
[19:12] <Myrtti> <-- warty user
[19:12] <Myrtti> well actually I dist-upgraded to hoary flight 2 or like
[19:14] <stdin> jussi01: point them to the guidelines, then /remove if they continue to be offtopic
[19:15] <PriceChild> jussi01, normally explaining that "ontopic" is only ubuntu support usually works, if not then remove
[19:15] <jussi01> stdin: it wasnt the offtopic person, just some other person commenting
[19:15] <Myrtti> jussi01: how long have you used irc then?
[19:15] <Myrtti> ;-)
[19:15] <jussi01> Myrtti: since edgy...
[19:16] <Myrtti> jussi01: d'oh
[19:16] <stdin> jussi01: then just point them to the guidelines, (and ask then to continue discussion of if it's offtopic or not in -offtopic ;)
[19:18]  * jussi01 thanks everyone, i dont know what Id do without you. :)
[21:43] <ardchoille> Is it best to /kick or !away for obvious public away's like: ~~~ |Dreams| is away: Gone away for now.
[21:45] <ompaul> what I was saying was remove them to here with /msg ubotu away
[21:45] <ompaul> so they get the idea
[21:45] <ardchoille> ok
[22:44] <Kagar> LjL -- is my banishment over yet?
[22:44] <Kagar> :\
[22:45] <Kagar> Tiz been about a month
[22:54] <Kagar> can you unban me elkbuntu?
[22:57] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[23:02] <ompaul> Kagar, very unlikely given your history that anyone but LjL might lift that ban - and the bad news is that he will not be back until next year
[23:03] <ompaul> it is not a month it is more like three weeks
[23:08] <Kagar> :(
[23:08] <Kagar> when you say "your history" makes it sound like I'm some criminal...
[23:10] <ompaul> okay let me be more exact
[23:11] <ompaul> your behaviour on IRC would not inspire anyone to lift your ban
[23:13] <Kagar> danke
[23:13] <ompaul> this behaviour was noted in particular on the following dates: Apr 19, Aug 20, Sep 03, Sep 17, Oct22, Nov4, x2, Dec 02, Dec 08 and Dec 09
[23:13] <Kagar> jeez, ha
[23:14] <Kagar> though, I think some of them were unjust -- due to some filter words came up, I believe and was kicked without context -- meh
[23:14] <ompaul> I can quote a line from each of them if you want
[23:14] <ompaul> but actually I won't
[23:14] <ompaul> cos I am not going to do that much work
[23:14] <Kagar> heh
[23:15] <Kagar> all right, understandable.
[23:15] <ompaul> now is there anything else?
[23:15] <Kagar> mm, not really. Have a good new years.
[23:15] <ompaul> I'll try
[23:15] <Kagar> mm
[23:15] <ompaul> enjoy yours
[23:16] <PriceChild> What I nice fellow.
[23:16] <PriceChild> *a
[23:16] <ompaul> PriceChild, but you is a nice fellow!
[23:16] <PriceChild> I always think its funny when you're thinking two things and manage to convey neither
[23:17] <ompaul> PriceChild, no, for me that is normal
[23:19] <ardchoille> lol
[23:19] <ompaul> ardchoille, as you well know :)
[23:19] <ardchoille> :)
[23:20] <ardchoille> ompaul: Happens to the best of us
[23:20] <ompaul> ardchoille, I think I got that thing worked out
[23:20] <ardchoille> ompaul: Did coffee help? :)
[23:21] <ompaul> ardchoille, who knows, the env got new variables mapped, seemed to do the trick
[23:21] <ardchoille> Ah :)
[23:35] <linux_stu> is there any way i can be unbanned from #ubuntu please?
[23:39] <PriceChild> Remember why you were banned?
[23:40] <linux_stu> yes
[23:42] <linux_stu> i asked a question in the channel even though i do not use ubuntu.  it was not a distribution specific question.  i had asked in ##linux and #gentoo, but no one knew the answer.  i figured i would try asking in #ubuntu, and then someone noticed i had asked in #gentoo and i was kick-banned.  i won't do in again
[23:43] <linux_stu> s/in/it
[23:43] <PriceChild> That's not quite the whole story though it is...
[23:43] <PriceChild> from your account you appear *extremely* hard done by
[23:44] <linux_stu> well i pissed off an op
[23:45] <PriceChild> from the logs, it seems like it was a pretty distribution specific questin
[23:45] <linux_stu> o
[23:45] <PriceChild> I'm pretty sure things like hal and ntfs drivers are implemented differently in gentoo and Ubuntu.
[23:46] <linux_stu> ah i remember now
[23:46] <PriceChild> But that's not the point.
[23:46] <linux_stu> it turns out the problem was related to a bug in the kernel driver
[23:46] <linux_stu> i was told
[23:49] <linux_stu> never mind
[23:49] <PriceChild> You were told you were offtopic in #ubuntu, you were told where you should go. #ubuntu is a ridiculously busy place. You aren't going to get a decent gentoo answer in #ubuntu, and you're going to confuse helpers.
[23:49] <PriceChild> That's the bottom line
[23:49] <linux_stu> k sorry
[23:49] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[23:49] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:49] <PriceChild> Take a read please.
[23:50] <linux_stu> ok
[23:54] <linux_stu> i read it