[00:03] <Joelito> ardchoille: thanks :p
[00:03] <ardchoille> Joelito: yw :)
[00:04] <DarkTan_> !xgl
[00:04] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:05] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  enable verbose logging for the sshd server. and see what its saying.
[00:05] <dorkface> how do i do that?
[00:05] <dorkface> ssh -v?
[00:05] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  of course you should see if the 2 machines can ping each other first.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> the sshd config file has some options also
[00:05] <dorkface> Dr_willis: first thing i did ;)
[00:06] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  you did check the sshd logs in /var/log ?
[00:06] <dorkface> sec
[00:07] <dorkface> hmm...I don't see anything with ssh in the directory
[00:07] <Dr_willis> to enable the more verbose logging in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config you would change the LogLevel INFO  Line to somthing else.. Not sure what tho.
[00:07] <dorkface> I know i have ssh installed because I can "man ssh"
[00:08] <Dr_willis> man sshd_config       - gives the info for the loglevel setting
[00:08] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  how about this.. try 'ssh localhost' see if that works :)
[00:09] <dorkface> nope! huh?
[00:09] <ehamberg> I need to do some KDE 3 coding, but when I try to install kde-devel aptitude wants to downgrade my kde packages from -2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 to -0ubuntu2. Is this ok? What is ppa1? (See http://rafb.net/p/q86yl393.html for aptitude output)
[00:09] <dorkface> still says connection refused
[00:09] <dorkface> same on my laptop
[00:10] <Dr_willis> If you cant log in to localhost.. then its somthing odd with the sshd service
[00:10] <mace__> hello, where can i get cute fonts for my firefox :)?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  ugh.. you DID install the ssh server? not just the client?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !find ssh
[00:10] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server, ssh, ssh-askpass-gnome, aolserver4-nssha1 (and 28 others)
[00:10] <dorkface> I didn't install naything
[00:10] <dorkface> it came default
[00:10] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  thats your problem then
[00:10] <Dr_willis> openssh-server  - is not installed by default
[00:10] <dorkface> ....well, phooey
[00:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:11] <Dr_willis> I still wonder where sshd keeps its logs
[00:11] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I would think in /var/log somewhere
[00:11] <dorkface> is it a simple apt-get install, or is there a lot of configuration involved?
[00:12] <ardchoille> !info openssh-server | dorkface
[00:12] <ubotu> dorkface: openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[00:12] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  i see no log files there for sshd at all.
[00:13] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: :(
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  i am RTFM'ing right now.. :)
[00:16] <dorkface> *GLEE* Eureka! :D
[00:16] <ardchoille> dorkface: This may be of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[00:17] <dorkface> sweet, thanks
[00:32] <iKiller> Hey, I have a big problem here
[00:32] <bmack> when kubuntu starts up i get this error message
[00:32] <bmack> information - kdesudo - no command arguments supplied: usage [-u <runast>] command - kdesudo will now exit
[00:32] <iKiller> I installed Kubuntu on my computer, and now it won't dual-boot
[00:33] <iKiller> I'm stuck on Kubuntu and can't get to Windows
[00:33] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  aha - the logging is in auth.log
[00:33] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Really?
[00:33] <ardchoille> Seems a bit off for sshd
[00:33] <ardchoille> s/off/odd/
[00:34] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  yea thers a setting in the sshd_config -> SyslogFacility AUTH
[00:34] <Dr_willis> The docs mention other optuosn for that.. but not what they do. :)
[00:34] <ardchoille> Ah
[00:34] <Dr_willis> The possible values are: DAEMON, USER, AUTH, LOCAL0, (and others)
[00:35] <itsjustme> access denied when coping files to another dir... What is the commmand when using konquerer?
[00:35] <Dr_willis> The option SyslogFacility specifies the facility code used when logging messages from sshd
[00:36] <Dr_willis> Ok... they like using fancy terms.. its the  facility code... :)
[00:37] <itsjustme> from desktop to alsa folder?
[00:38] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  if its in a ssytem type location. Its best to use the shell and 'sudo cp whatever /whever'
[00:38] <ardchoille> itsjustme: Why would you need to put a file into the alsa folder? Can you specify what you are doing? There may be an easier way.
[00:38] <itsjustme> I tried that and it dowsnt work
[00:38] <itsjustme> we did this 2 weeks ago
[00:39] <itsjustme> the alsa files I download go to the desktop
[00:39] <itsjustme> I need them in the /usr/src/alsa folder\
[00:39] <itsjustme> access denied when tring to move them over
[00:40] <Dr_willis> cp whatever /usr/src/alsa
[00:40] <Dr_willis> are you trying to compile the latest alsa?
[00:40] <itsjustme> y
[00:40] <Dr_willis> following that guide?
[00:40] <itsjustme> I have the website up
[00:40] <itsjustme> y
[00:41] <itsjustme> tring again
[00:41] <Dr_willis> cd  /usr/src/alsa
[00:41] <itsjustme> i am there
[00:41] <Dr_willis> sudo cp /path/to/the/files  /usr/src/alsa
[00:42] <Behemot> !bubble
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bubble - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <Behemot> !tremulous
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tremulous - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <itsjustme> no good
[00:42] <itsjustme> omitting directory
[00:42] <Behemot> !wow
[00:42] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:42] <itsjustme> message
[00:43] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  a little script i wrote for a friend is here ---> http://pastebin.ca/839431
[00:43] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  you could just install 'mc' and use 'sudo mc' then copy the stuff over
[00:43] <itsjustme> the files are in /home/harry/Desktop.....Ill check it out
[00:43] <Dr_willis> you  could also just cd to /usr/src/alsa then uncompress them from there
[00:44] <Dr_willis> cd /usr/src/alsa
[00:44] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install unp   # Because i LIKE UNP
[00:44] <itsjustme> cool
[00:44] <itsjustme> thx
[00:44] <Dr_willis> sudo unp /whatever/the/path/is/to/the/3files
[00:45] <Dr_willis> I really Line UNP :)
[00:45] <Dr_willis> like.
[00:45] <dorkface> Dr_willis: Nice.  I could have used that script in October. ;)
[00:46] <dorkface> !festival
[00:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about festival - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <JCK> i created a torrent using ktorrent and i wanted to upload the files but it is giving me permission denied when it points to the files in the temporary directory
[00:49] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  all i did was take the commands from that guide. and put them all in a file..
[00:50] <Dr_willis> with a few wgets.. :)
[00:50] <Dr_willis> then i started building it up
[00:50] <dorkface> :)
[00:50] <Dr_willis> if it works
[00:50] <Dr_willis> i wrote it for a friend at work. Not had the time to test it on his box yet
[00:51] <dorkface> I can't know since I already have it fixed on this machine, hehe
[00:51] <JCK> i created a torrent using ktorrent and i wanted to upload the files but it is giving me permission denied when it points to the files in the temporary directory
[00:52] <dorkface> JCK: not sure, I don't play with ktorrent :-/
[00:52] <JCK> what client do you use?
[00:53] <dorkface> none really
[00:53] <dorkface> hehe
[00:54] <Dr_willis> i use ktorrent all the time.. but never made my own
[00:55] <Dr_willis> i only use it to download.. legal torrents .. of Linux Disrtos! thats it... Yea.....
[00:55] <jameswf-home> lol me too
[00:56] <Dr_willis> and rember Kids.. the RIAA says you do not have the legal right to RIP cd's to your IPOD...
[00:56] <jameswf-home> but movies are ok
[00:56] <Dr_willis> and i guess that means you dont ahve the right to burn Mp3's to cd either...
[00:56] <Isola> Good evening to ya all! I just installed the desktop version of Ubuntu 7.10 truth the Live Cd > Instal option. I just rebooted my system(as the installation told me to) and now instead of looking at the beautyful KDE interface im in Busybox commandline shell. How do i get the wheels moving? xD
[00:57] <jameswf-home> !topic
[00:57] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[00:57] <persen>  HELP! All my keys requires 1 second push to register with my kubuntu feistsy! any tips?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> Isola,  you sure its busybox and not the Console? did it ask to login?
[00:57] <Isola> Dr_willis, yes im sure
[00:57] <persen> 1 sec or more
[00:57] <jameswf-home> turn up th e repeat rate in keyboard settings
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Isola,  i belive it can do that when the initrd messes up.. but i got No idea how to fix it.
[00:58] <Isola> After the meny where i can choice what OS to start, the Ubunto splash screen shows, but the bar does not move, then after like 2-3 min BAM im in Busybox
[00:58] <Isola> menu*
[00:58] <persen> NO. its not repeat rate i think.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Isola,  you may want to append the 'nofb nosplash' option in grub to the kernel line, to perhaps get some more error messages showing up.
[00:59] <persen> jameswf-home, where d o i do that?
[00:59]  * jameswf-home wonders why people who know the answer ask questions
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Isola,  But even then. Im not sure what could be the problem.
[00:59] <persen> in case.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> persen,  you mean when you hit E, and hold it down.. it takes too long to start repeating?
[01:00] <persen> no all keys takes 1 second plus
[01:00] <Dr_willis> Thats not the repeate rate then.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> Thats.. somthing weird..
[01:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:01] <Isola> Dr_willis> I was kinda cheap when I made the partions for Ubuntu. Do you think that, in some wicked way could be ze problem?
[01:01] <Dr_willis> so you have to type real real slow eh?
[01:01] <jameswf-home> if you crank down the repeat ratge it will take x amount of time for the initial showing
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Isola,  possible. - wat do you mean by cheap?
[01:01] <Isola> like 4 gb, 2,5 for Root
[01:01] <persen> frustrating. when i log in to kde its fine. aftr i log in its slow as hell.
[01:02] <Isola> IMO it sound little for a great OS :)
[01:02] <persen> yes real slow.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Isola,  i dont think that is the issue.. unless you got the disk layout really weird.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Isola,  id try disabling the framebuffer, and fancy splash. to see if you see some initrd messages
[01:03] <jameswf-home> ctrl+alt f2 works as well
[01:03] <persen> fuck linux. install win tomorrow. to many probs out of the blue.
[01:03] <Isola> Yeah, I think im just going to try reinstall it with the partion wizard instead of playing wizard myself, cause i was really confused there for a bit :)
[01:03] <jameswf-home> !language > persen
[01:04] <persen> useless afaic. sorry.
[01:04] <dorkface> where can I change a groups from root
[01:04] <dorkface> groups password*
[01:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive rarely had to mess with groups. :) there was some kde admin tool that can do that.. or the command line tools..
[01:05] <dorkface> some how, (maybe it got corrupt :o  ) the password has changed for my login
[01:05] <pyrotix> Trying to get port 80 open but its filtered/stealthed. I've set my router to redirect to my internal IP, and I installed firestarter and told it to accept inbound connections on ports 80 and 81 from everyone, but according to shieldsup I'm still stealthed. Grauggh. Anyone have an idea?
[01:06] <jameswf-home> pyrotix: is your ISP blocking
[01:07] <pyrotix> jamesswf-home dunno, but am using both 80 and 81 in case 80 is blocked for being a http server port. Don't know any reason why the ISP would block 81
[01:07] <jameswf-home> pyrotix: use a non standard port like 8999
[01:07] <poison--> !gproftpd
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Dr_willis> dorkface,  you could boot a live cd. check the filesystem, then chroot into the installed system and change the passwprd
[01:08] <jameswf-home> dorkface: you can boot in to single user mode and do the same
[01:08] <dorkface> how do I do it from chroot
[01:08] <mwalker> Anyone else getting quite a number of random crashes in libthread_db lately?
[01:08] <dorkface> wait, sec
[01:11] <Dr_willis> chroot over. and use passwd username   command
[01:13] <pyrotix> jamesswf-home 39999 failed. Only bothered to add rule in firestarter as router is set to DMZ
[01:13] <jameswf-home> umm apache has to bind to the port
[01:15] <pyrotix> jamesswf-home I'm not checking to see apache work, I was just seeing that the port was unstealthed or not. Do I need to bind something to the port for shieldsup to not detect it as stealthed?
[01:16] <jameswf-home> well if nothing is listening on it wont do much
[01:17] <kbreit> If I install Kubuntu packages on top of a regular Ubuntu install, will I have the option of starting gnome or kde?
[01:17] <jameswf-home> try nc -l -p port
[01:17] <jameswf-home> sudo !!
[01:19] <BluesKaj> kbreit, install kubuntu-desktop  and you'll have the option of using either gnome or kde packages
[01:19] <dorkface> phew, found the problem
[01:19] <kbreit> BluesKaj: Oh great, thanks.
[01:19] <ardchoille> kbreit: If you install more than one desktop, yes, you can choose which de to use at the log in screen
[01:20] <dorkface> I tried messing with a list about PAM or something, that I shouldn't have.  After undoing the changes, presto, up and working
[01:21] <Scotty> Got a problem. I have to use sudo to do anything with my GPG key. I assume this is because I don't have access to ~/.gnupg, but I don't know how to fix that. Anyone know a fix or a command I can use so that my applications can access my GPG information (particularily, KMail)?
[01:22] <dorkface> schweet, now rsync works!
[01:23] <ardchoille> Scotty: Are you logged in as your normal user?
[01:23] <Scotty> ardchoille: Yep.
[01:24] <ardchoille> Scotty: sudo chown -R $(whoami) ~/.gnupg
[01:24] <Scotty> whoami being my username, or actually whoami?
[01:25] <ardchoille> Scotty: run that command as is
[01:25] <Scotty> ardchoille: gotcha, I'll give it a try, thanks.
[01:26] <ardchoille> Scotty: To find out if there are any other files in your $HOME which are owned by root: find ~/ -user root
[01:26] <Scotty> There are a few.
[01:26] <pyrotix> jamesswf-home checked the 81 and 39999 with apache listening on each
[01:27] <pyrotix> still were invisible
[01:29] <angasule> hey, any idea if the DST fix for argentina is available?
[01:30] <itsjustme> Dr_willis   u still here?
[01:31] <itsjustme> " it seems that Kmix is not running " message is coming up after reboot... Any helpwith that?
[01:31] <ardchoille> !nickspam > _mike_
[01:31] <itsjustme> There is no mixer!
[01:34] <Scotty> ardchoille: Thanks a million. Worked like a charm.
[01:34] <ardchoille> Scotty: yw :)
[01:43] <wraithmagi> anyone try the new ATI drivers for radeon xpress 200m (laptop?)  They work with compiz-fusion natively yet?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> im afraid that compiz may blow up my laptop. :) heh heh
[01:48] <Dr_willis> and its little bitty x200m video card.
[01:51] <itsjustme> Dr_willis   Did you get my earlier mess??
[01:52] <Dr_willis> itsjustme,  been eating pizza. :)
[01:52] <itsjustme> and didnt offer me any,,,,    Still no sound.. Have speaker with mute on it..  No mixer
[01:53] <itsjustme> Mixer settings... Advanced linux
[01:54] <wraithmagi> so I guess no one has tried the new drivers?
[01:54] <wraithmagi> bummer.
[01:55] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, have you done this: k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[01:55] <itsjustme> ill try it
[01:58] <itsjustme> All there by default
[01:58] <itsjustme> still no sound
[01:59] <BluesKaj> alsamixer doesn't showup in the terminal ?
[01:59] <itsjustme> Any other suggestions...........No alsa mixer
[02:00] <BluesKaj> your soundcard isn't being recognized
[02:00] <BluesKaj> itsjustme, asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[02:02] <itsjustme> BluesKaj we have been through this before... The sound card is there it is an Intel corp High def Audio
[02:04] <itsjustme> I did asoundcard reset-default-card   and enter
[02:04] <mboso> I just installed amarok 1.4.8 on a ubuntu gutsy box and to get mp3 support working I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and manuall installed libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1_i386.deb but MP3s are still not play. What did I miss? (asked in #amarok but no one is home)
[02:05] <itsjustme> Well folks. As much as I love the ubuntu kde os    it seems as though this problem has gotten the best of me and I may have to try Fedora8
[02:07] <syntaxerror55> how do I tell my computer to turn off from the command line?
[02:07] <Kijutsu> Does the Kubuntu installer allow partition resizing?
[02:07] <itsjustme> I have tried for 3weeks and all I have done is take up your valuable time.. I thanks you all for your expertise and willingness to help me out with this issue and even though I will be losing ubuntu at least I have learned a lot of different things here.. Thanks to all that have helped me now and in the past.... Goodnight and Happy New Year
[02:07] <BluesKaj> Kijutsu, yes the live cd does
[02:08] <Kijutsu> BluesKaj: how reliable is the resizer?
[02:08] <syntaxerror55> It's gParted, right?
[02:08] <Scotty> syntaxerror55: sudo halt
[02:08] <syntaxerror55> Scotty: thanks
[02:09] <BluesKaj> well ,I can't say from personal experience cuz i used gparted to resize and format the partitions previous to the install
[02:09] <syntaxerror55> gParted comes with the UBUNTU liveCD, I think it also comes with the kubuntu one but I'm not sure
[02:10] <Kijutsu> I'm just worried about it breaking the existing partition that I have windows on :/  I'm trying to move away from windows on my laptop, it's just it has the i810 chipset and it doesn't support XV video at all.
[02:10] <BluesKaj> Gparted on a live cd
[02:10] <syntaxerror55> I also have a 1-year-old GParted live CD ;D
[02:10] <Kijutsu> i should just invest in a laptop that doesn't blow goat chunks.
[02:11] <Kijutsu> Thanks all.
[02:11] <syntaxerror55> Kijutsu: heh. On my laptop, the speaker is rusting, the CD Drive doesn't work and the fans are broken
[02:11] <Kijutsu> syntaxerror55: nice. :D
[02:11] <Kijutsu> Wait
[02:11] <tomaz__> help
[02:12] <Kijutsu> how the heck is the SPEAKER rusting?  Did you get the unit wet?
[02:12] <tomaz__> i'v configured dsl using the pppoeconf, and it worked
[02:12] <tomaz__> but now, i'v removed the dsl, and the network doesn't work anymore
[02:12] <syntaxerror55> Kijutsu: I have no idea. I got it back from GeekSquad that way :|
[02:12] <Kijutsu> Hah.. that explains *EVERYTHING*
[02:13] <wesley> how can i fix adept its crased
[02:13] <BluesKaj> heh , Best Buy GeekSquad...was selling shoes the week before he was hired :)
[02:13] <Kijutsu> syntaxerror55: i've got an old compaq here the same way.  Dead CD rom.. hard drive is questionable.  the screen is going dead.. the 'old lcd' look is starting.  and the fan screams.
[02:13] <syntaxerror55> I was dual-booting and had a problem in Windows and they called and said they couldn't figure out how to boot into Windows so they were sending it back.
[02:14] <pyrotix> what's the easiest way to get flash on gutsy with plugin for konq?
[02:14] <syntaxerror55> Kijutsu: My LCD screen has somehow stayed brand new
[02:14] <Kijutsu> Oh yes.. I forgot, the sound card is long dead and it provides the wrong vendor Identification.
[02:15] <Kijutsu> syntaxerror55: so you're familiar with the 'old lcd' look eh?
[02:15] <wesley> does someone know how to fix adept when it crased?
[02:15] <syntaxerror55> I don't think the wireless card in this unit even works. One day it just stopped showing up (not that I use wireless, I have an ethernet cable ;D)
[02:15] <Kijutsu> wesley: how did adept crash?
[02:15] <syntaxerror55> and yes I am Kijutsu :D
[02:16] <BluesKaj> wesley, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:17] <syntaxerror55> wait, to INSTALL Hardy?
[02:17] <syntaxerror55> He won't come back alive XD
[02:18] <Kijutsu> bad?
[02:18] <syntaxerror55> It's only alpha 2.
[02:18] <Kijutsu> ...bad
[02:18] <mboso> I just installed amarok 1.4.8 on a ubuntu gutsy box and to get mp3 support working I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and manuall installed libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1_i386.deb but MP3s are still not play. What did I miss? (asked in #amarok but no one is home)
[02:18] <syntaxerror55> I wouldn't have unstable software on any computer
[02:18] <Kijutsu> heh... i used to all the time with gentoo
[02:18] <syntaxerror55> (scratch that, an unstable OS)
[02:18] <Kijutsu> it used to crash a lot.
[02:19] <firecrotch> alpha 2 is out? Yay!
[02:19] <syntaxerror55> Gentoo is too much compiling for me :|
[02:19] <Kijutsu> that's why i went to kubuntu
[02:19] <Kijutsu> i was tired of waiting 48+ hours for a complete installation
[02:20] <syntaxerror55> and if something goes wrong
[02:20] <Kijutsu> start over
[02:20] <syntaxerror55> you've wasted two days of your life
[02:20] <syntaxerror55> and that
[02:20] <wesley> Lijstmap /var/lib/apt/lists/partial is afwezig.
[02:20] <wesley> E: Archiefmap /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is afwezig.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> but you learn so much... :)
[02:20] <wesley> this says it
[02:20] <Kijutsu> Dr_willis: yes you do.
[02:21] <Kijutsu> Dr_willis: that is how i learned 99% of what i know on linux
[02:21] <Dr_willis> You learn to install irssi first.. so you can chat while the rest of the system compiles...
[02:21] <BluesKaj> wesley, sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:21]  * syntaxerror55 is using irssi right now
[02:22] <wesley> BluesKaj will that fix the missing parts?
[02:24] <wesley> apt-get says a file named partial is missing
[02:24] <adamonline46> Hello all.  Under 'system settings', when I click on 'Sharing', it locks up.  Does anyone know how I might resolve this?
[02:25] <flaccid> adamonline46: desktop sharing or file sharing?
[02:26] <adamonline46> flaccid: I suspect file sharing, it's under 'network & connectivity'...  Also, my file sharing's acting strange, I can't see remote samba shares unless I'm root...
[02:28] <flaccid> !samba | adamonline46
[02:28] <ubotu> adamonline46: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:28] <flaccid> did you read that?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> dont forget the books in the samba-doc package also....
[02:34] <Lam_> in dolphin, there's a "convert to" button for image format conversions. what compression level is used for png?
[02:36] <mboso> I just installed amarok 1.4.8 on a ubuntu gutsy box and to get mp3 support working I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and manuall installed libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1_i386.deb but MP3s are still not play. What did I miss? (asked in #amarok but no one is home)
[02:36] <adamonline46> flaccid: I've scanned that, verified I'm a valid SMB user... I did however learn that I can connect using smbclient at the command line as a regular user, just not from Dolphin...
[02:37] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with dolphin and konqueror timing out instantly when accessing samba shares.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> but then it started working..
[02:38] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: That sounds like what's going on here, it fits... It just fixed itself, eh?  Dang lucky 8)
[02:38] <flaccid> adamonline46: what does dolphin return?
[02:38] <adamonline46> flaccid: It hangs at 'Loading directory...[0%              ]'
[02:39] <adamonline46> No errors, persay
[02:39] <BluesKaj> prolly setup the networkprinter , that's how samba found the path :)
[02:40] <Dr_willis> adamonline46,  i normally use the samba fuse tools now a days
[02:41] <flaccid> !bugs | adamonline46
[02:41] <ubotu> adamonline46: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[02:41] <flaccid> report a bug i guess
[02:41] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: I'll check that out... I figure since I can access the share from CLI, maybe I can mount a share and then access it from dolphin... Fuse allows mounting, configuring, etc; and is... a web interface? Is there a package?
[02:42] <adamonline46> flaccid: Ooh, my first bug...  I'll check launchpad out too  :)
[02:42] <flaccid> !info smb4k | adamonline46
[02:42] <ubotu> adamonline46: smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[02:42] <flaccid> !info krusader | adamonline46
[02:42] <ubotu> adamonline46: krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0-1 (gutsy), package size 3102 kB, installed size 8736 kB
[02:43] <Dr_willis> !find smbfuse
[02:43] <flaccid> use those two to see whats going on kio wise with samba and if see if they work which would mean its a dolphin bug..
[02:43] <ubotu> Package/file smbfuse does not exist in gutsy
[02:43] <Dr_willis> !find fusesmb
[02:43] <ubotu> Found: fusesmb
[02:43] <Dr_willis> !info fusesmb
[02:43] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[02:43] <flaccid> whats fusesmb?
[02:43] <nonewmsgs> my kde resolution is all messed up but my xorg.conf file is right.  if i try to adjust it in the display properties it corrupts the xorg.conf file
[02:43] <nonewmsgs> a new user has good resolution
[02:44] <flaccid> what i hate about ubuntu ishow it reverts your workgroup/samba configuration all the time, its shites me big time
[02:44] <Dr_willis> fuxesmb - lets you make a directlry, that basicially scans/accesss all the samba shares on the network
[02:44] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  ive never seen it do that yet.
[02:44] <flaccid> thats pretty cool
[02:44] <flaccid> its been doing that to me for years. it either removes the workgroup directive from smb.conf or changes it to WORKGROUP
[02:45] <flaccid> i assumed by gutsy it would be fixed but its not, so i should report a bug
[02:45] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: Actually, I have SMB4k, and it halts as well...
[02:45] <Dr_willis> smb4k is nice - i used to use it all the time.
[02:45] <flaccid> sounds like a kio problem
[02:45] <Dr_willis> but with the fusesmb thing. you can do it at login, and no need to mount individial shares.  and it can see machiens as they join the network
[02:46] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: flaccid: I can see my workgroup name, get to a list of computers, and then it halts when i select one, regardless of which I choose... What's a kio problem mean?  Is it something else I could look at for a problem?
[02:47] <nonewmsgs> my kde and gnome are both messed up at the same time.  usually only one breaks down at a time and i switch for a while
[02:47] <ardchoille> !nickspam > MistaGee
[02:47] <adamonline46> er, that's in smb4k
[02:47] <flaccid> adamonline46: kio is the object that does the input output for that connection. you can check logs
[02:47] <Dr_willis> look at the status bars whenya select a share.. Mine i saw '... timed out...' i think.
[02:47] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: I've never seen it say 'timed out...'
[02:47] <adamonline46> It just goes gray
[02:48] <Dr_willis> it flashed so fast on me.. that i barelys aw it.. you may be having other issues.
[02:48] <adamonline46> ahhh, I'll try again
[02:49] <nonewmsgs> bah
[02:49] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, how does the fusesmb work if samba is already installed on a system ?
[02:49] <nonewmsgs> mistell
[02:49] <flaccid> i thought fusesmb was a client not a server
[02:50] <adamonline46> What does 'master browser' mean?
[02:50] <BluesKaj> It's basically smbmount with a twist. Instead of mounting one Samba share at a time, you mount all workgroups, hosts and shares at once. Only when you're accessing a share a connection is made to the remote computer.
[02:50] <flaccid> its the samba server that does the election for lan browser via nmb/smb
[02:50] <adamonline46> In the tooltips in each of my shares, I see it says 'master browser Lyle', which is a machine on my network that doesn't do anything but host a share...
[02:51] <flaccid> adamonline46: the master browser is the machine that gives out the list of computers and workgroups as the clients poll to it on the network
[02:51] <adamonline46> flaccid: Oh my.  Could this perchance be my problem?  I don't know how it became the master! :O
[02:51] <flaccid> adamonline46: step 1. check logs on both server and client and pastebin errors..
[02:51] <adamonline46> I didn't even know I had a 'master'
[02:52] <flaccid> the master browser or incorrect setting does not affect connection to a server
[02:52] <adamonline46> flaccid: samba logs?  Are both client and server logs in '/var/log/samba'?
[02:52] <adamonline46> flaccid: Okay, cool
[02:52] <flaccid> i set my local server to be the master so it doesn't get confused
[02:52] <flaccid> yes
[02:52] <flaccid> but election only affects browsing, not connection to a smb server
[02:55] <adamonline46> flaccid: Hmm.  Exactly which logs am i looking at?  I see a lot, presumably from machines on the school lan, but none of them really have anything in them
[02:56] <flaccid> well first you have a look on the server and then on the client. the smb.conf is usually configured to store a log per client based on their machine name (netbios) or IP
[02:56] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  its a fancy 'client' i guess ya can say.
[02:56] <flaccid> there is also a main log called smb.log as well or something also nmb.log or something
[02:56] <flaccid> in terms of log on the client side, there isn't one iirc
[02:56] <squidy> hello..  I've installed compiz in kubuntu and it's working well.. but when I try to run some videos like .avi or rmvb in kaffeine I just listen to audio but no image shows for me...
[02:56] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  the user does 'fusesmb /home/username/Network' and all the samba network is browseable in that diretrory
[02:57] <squidy> May you help me about that?
[02:57] <mrtimbo> does my /home partition work for other distros too?
[02:57] <flaccid> !info samba
[02:57] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 3751 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[02:57] <flaccid> pretty crazy that samba is still optional...
[02:58] <flaccid> newbies install kubuntu and they go i can't share files and then have no idea how to do it or why people cannot see their computer on the network
[02:58] <Dr_willis> ubuntu takes the 'all servers are optional' security rules.. mentality i guess
[02:58] <Dr_willis> actually i think the kde 'share folder' thing does auto instrall some of the bits
[02:58] <flaccid> which is good, but the installer can include installation and configuration of samba, optionally
[03:00] <mrtimbo> does my /home partition work for other distros too?
[03:01] <jameswf-home> I was banned from ubuntu for questioning a nazi opp WOW
[03:02] <Dr_willis> !ot | jameswf-home
[03:02] <ubotu> jameswf-home: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:02] <flaccid> mrtimbo: yes. /home is pretty much a standard
[03:02] <mrtimbo> with bsd is what i meant. sorry
[03:03] <flaccid> mrtimbo: well /home exists in bsd as well. what do you mean by work?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> with shareing /home on different disrtos. you can have user/owner/mermisson issues
[03:03] <mrtimbo> like access my music n pix
[03:03] <flaccid> samba is available on bsd as well yes
[03:04] <mrtimbo> ok
[03:04] <bmack> im having trouble installing fglrx i always get a xorg.conf error at startup and have to change fglrx back to vesa for it to boot up
[03:04] <bmack> http://pastebin.ca/839602
[03:04] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: flaccid: Phew!  Hehheh, finally, had to take the long way to get the log online... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50228/
[03:04] <jameswf-home> kubuntu is apprised of thousands of apps whats off topic...
[03:06] <flaccid> adamonline46: i guess huck (192.168.1.108) couldn't find service www . which usually means its trying to access www workgroup which doesn't exist
[03:06] <scheisse20> holoh?
[03:07] <scheisse20> hola
[03:07] <adamonline46> flaccid: Actually, if you're referring to the last few lines, that was me trying to access a share called 'www' on that machine, but I had the wrong machine, there was no 'www' share :)
[03:07] <scheisse20> ok
[03:08] <flaccid> adamonline46: right then what are the errors occuring when you go to access?
[03:08] <adamonline46> flaccid: On the server?  Lemme tail it...
[03:08] <flaccid>  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to client 192.168.1.108. Error = Connection reset by peer  and also the routing issue there perhaps..
[03:08] <scheisse20> alguien habla español aquí?
[03:09] <ardchoille> !es | scheisse20
[03:09] <ubotu> scheisse20: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:09] <scheisse20> thanks!! muchas gracias ;)
[03:11] <Andresito> wanna chat? :O
[03:12] <ardchoille> Andresito: This is a support channel for Kubuntu. Social chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <Andresito> oh, i'm sorry, so sorry!!
[03:12] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well, if I sign in at the CLI or as root in Dolphin, I get a standard 'connect to service as user xxxx', so it works normally.  If I try to connect as normal user, nothing gets logged...
[03:13] <flaccid> adamonline46: right pastebin your smb.conf i will fix because im a legend :p
[03:13] <adamonline46> flaccid: Isn't smb.conf only for the server?  I think this is a client issue...
[03:14] <adamonline46> I have one that's super plain, lemme find what I copied it from...
[03:14] <adamonline46> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49767/
[03:14] <flaccid> adamonline46: we don't know for sure yet, but i can tell you if there is a problem at least
[03:14] <adamonline46> alright
[03:14] <flaccid> that logs suggests networking but then that doesn't make sense if what you can connect as route? you should check your /etc/samba/smbusers map..
[03:15] <flaccid> route=root
[03:15] <Dr_willis> normally root is disabled i thought from samba logins
[03:16] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well, the link above is the one that I'm using from my fileserver.  The error log I sent was from my CS server...
[03:16] <adamonline46> flaccid: I have no /etc/samba/smbusers
[03:16] <flaccid> adamonline46: well issue first is that you are using share mode, please read the samba guide and implement a proper smb.conf
[03:16] <flaccid> share mode always will have issues and probably is why only root can access. to set up share mode correctly you have to do a lot more than what you have there..
[03:17] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well all my other servers are using 'user' security.  Let me post you my smb.conf from one that I haven't modified to nothing as a result of troubleshooting this 8)
[03:18] <flaccid> adamonline46: yes implmeent user mode security and user an smbusers map..
[03:18] <flaccid> adamonline46: i will pastebin you mine and you can go from there
[03:18] <Dr_willis> its a pastebin party!
[03:19] <ardchoille> lol
[03:19] <flaccid> i just wish kubuntu would do something about samba
[03:19] <adamonline46> flaccid: Very well, I'll hold off on passing you what I have... I'll implement the one you give me and we'll go from there.
[03:20] <flaccid> well here is mine atm. note how ubuntu has ripped out the workgroup and server strings! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50230/
[03:21] <flaccid> maybe i should just get my master browser configuration
[03:22] <mike_> knetworkmanager keeps promting me for a wep password ,i do not have one ,and so drops connection/
[03:22] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, cool.  I'll put it on and restart samba... I'm not clear on what smbusers.conf should have in it though; will that happen when i run with security = user?
[03:23] <mike_> How can I dissable wep password?
[03:23] <flaccid> um /etc/samba/smbusers maps samba users to shell users. eg. if they are the same you can do flaccid = flaccid for example
[03:24] <flaccid> adamonline46: not my directives in here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50231/
[03:24] <flaccid> not=note
[03:27] <flaccid> adamonline46: so the important global directives are map to guest = Bad User, username map = /etc/samba/smbusers (security = user is a default). check config params with testparm
[03:28] <arrrghhh> so i'm in user management, and after i do the administrator mode and put in a correct root pw, i still can't make any changes
[03:29] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright.  What should I make 'server' in smb.conf? Er, waht's the line that it removed?
[03:29] <flaccid> what do you mean
[03:29] <flaccid> arrrghhh: thats common unfortunately
[03:29] <arrrghhh> is it a kde bug?
[03:30] <flaccid> either kde or kubuntu, not sure which
[03:30] <flaccid> you could check if it exists in !bugs already
[03:30] <arrrghhh> hrm
[03:30] <arrrghhh> i'm sure it does
[03:30] <adamonline46> flaccid: You said Ubuntu removed the 'server string'.  What should I put in that field?
[03:30] <arrrghhh> what's the remedy/workaround?
[03:31] <flaccid> adamonline46: anything, its a description, can just use %h like i have done which is the host
[03:33] <arrrghhh> what's the remedy/workaround?  i kinda need to set my user to vboxusers so i can actually use virtualbox
[03:33] <flaccid> arrrghhh: i don't know of one
[03:34] <flaccid> set your user to vboxusers?
[03:34] <Tallen> Is it correct to say the portion on the CommonQuestions regarding 64-bit is outdated?
[03:34] <flaccid> you can add it via cli
[03:34] <alesan> arrrghhh: I use root and virtualbox has no problems
[03:34] <arrrghhh> alesan: you run virtualbox as root?
[03:34] <adamonline46> arrrghhh: I had that same problem occasionally, installing kcontrol seemed to work better than the default settings manager... I dunno if that can lead to conflicts or not though.
[03:34] <arrrghhh> yea...
[03:35] <alesan> arrrghhh: actually, I run everything as root, I even login gaphically. some say it's a security hole and flame up
[03:35] <arrrghhh> meh
[03:35] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, i testparmed, and restarted Samba... Lemme see if I can access it, at least from the machines I used to be able to 8)
[03:35] <arrrghhh> it's your security hole, not mine
[03:35] <arrrghhh> i'd rather not run things as root... that's the main issue i have with winodws
[03:35] <arrrghhh> is UAC
[03:35] <marx2k> hey whats a way to get KDE to switch to another desktop when you move your mouse to the edge of the screen?
[03:35] <alesan> ok happy sudo then :)
[03:35] <Dr_willis> UAC = Most annoying thing since... clippy!
[03:35] <flaccid> arrrghhh: did you follow this exactly? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[03:36] <flaccid> marx2k: ctrl + f2 etc..
[03:36] <arrrghhh> UAC is what separates the stupid user from the core of the system
[03:36] <arrrghhh> call it annoying call it what you will
[03:36] <arrrghhh> linux provides a way around it, but it's there for a reason
[03:36] <Dr_willis> its nost more buttons for them to click ok on.. befor they install their spyware-wrapped screensaver
[03:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:36] <marx2k> flaccid: well yeah.. but I want it to switch when the mouse pointer hits the edge of the screen
[03:36] <flaccid> arrrghhh: the virtualbox guide details what you need to do user/group wise..
[03:37] <arrrghhh> flaccid: that's for the OSE...
[03:37] <flaccid> OSE ?
[03:37] <marx2k> I think there might be a package that does it but I cant remember
[03:37] <arrrghhh> open source edition
[03:37] <alesan> arrrghhh: not that I am interestd too much, but can you expand UAC?
[03:37] <arrrghhh> doesn't have usb support which i need
[03:37] <Dr_willis> I see a Mouse-wheel changes desktops.. feture. but not sure ive seen a kde-change on edge of the desktop - option
[03:37] <arrrghhh> alesan: what do you mean?
[03:37] <alesan> what is the UAC achronym?
[03:37] <arrrghhh> oh
[03:38] <alesan> U=? A=? C=?
[03:38] <flaccid> arrrghhh: still it advises what to do user/group wise that you need to do. or you could learn usermod command to add a user to the group yourself
[03:38] <arrrghhh> user access control sorry
[03:38] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, I got your config installed and added the parms you requested I add.  I can still access the machine from CLI, but in Dolphin, can now not do my 'open as root' trick.
[03:38] <flaccid> adamonline46: thats probably a good thing.
[03:38] <alesan> dolphin is on of the most annoying things ever :)
[03:38] <arrrghhh> flaccid: that's what i was trying to achieve with adding my user to the vboxusers group
[03:39] <flaccid> arrrghhh: google add user to group and it will show you how to do it with usermod ..
[03:39] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yes, but I still can't access my shares as a regular user, either
[03:39] <flaccid> adamonline46: you need to advise why, i can't read minds or your logs remotely
[03:39] <arrrghhh> yea, i was hoping for kde to have guis that worked... fark
[03:39] <adamonline46> I'm almost certain it's client side, as even clicking 'mshome' yields nothing but a blank directory, unless I'm root
[03:40] <adamonline46> flaccid: I don't know what will help.  I've looked into everything I can think of on my own :/
[03:40] <flaccid> adamonline46: its pretty basic. you get the client to try to access the share, then you look at what was put in the log on the server..
[03:41] <flaccid> if you still have timeouts or whatever, it has to be a client issue i guess
[03:41] <adamonline46> But when my accessing fails, the logs show no change.  I don't think the request even gets out of the client...
[03:42] <marx2k> HAH!! I found the answer to my question... if anyone else cares... Control Center/Window Behavior/Advanced/Active Desktop Borders is the setting that handles that :)
[03:42] <flaccid> adamonline46: in that case you could check netstat to see the status of the tcp connection to see if its waiting or timing out or whatever instead of 'ESTABLISHED'
[03:43] <adamonline46> Plus, I can access all the Samba shares on all 4 Linux machines from my WinXP box; but this lunux machine won't access the same shares through smbclient unless it's CLI or root (assuming root's not an invalid user)
[03:43] <adamonline46> ah, netstat...
[03:43] <flaccid> must be that one computer then adamonline46
[03:45] <adamonline46> flaccid: Hehheh, that's what I figure :)  I just wish I knew what it could be... Netstat's a Win32 thing; since I'm not using the XP box as a client or server in this case, that won't really help...
[03:45] <dsmith> alesan: Dolphin is annoying?
[03:45] <flaccid> netstat is a unix thing adamonline46 that microsoft took via interix
[03:45] <adamonline46> Hehheh, well, I can tell you've had enough of me for tonight, I can let you go 8)
[03:45] <adamonline46> ooh
[03:45] <dsmith> ballmer and his IP rights, phooeey!
[03:45] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i TCP
[03:46] <arrrghhh> well that was a pita
[03:46] <arrrghhh> i really wish kde would just make guis that work... they're so nice when they do
[03:46] <flaccid> arrrghhh: lol thats a contradicting statement
[03:46] <arrrghhh> uh
[03:46] <arrrghhh> no
[03:46] <arrrghhh> i mean cli tools are great... but i don't want to memorize how to do everything with the gui
[03:47] <ircleuser> hello has anyone seen pope1 around lately?
[03:47] <flaccid> if kde's guis didn't work, i wouldn't be here. because 1 thing is failing doesn't disregard the whole desktop environment
[03:47] <arrrghhh> and i'm never going to be able to get anyone to use linux if gui tools don't work right
[03:47] <arrrghhh> well flaccid i wasn't disregarding the entire desktop
[03:47] <arrrghhh> you blew my statement out of proportion
[03:47] <flaccid> arrrghhh: this is 1 example. windows as well as all desktop environments have bugs at least this one you can look up.
[03:47] <arrrghhh> certainly
[03:47] <flaccid> you said you wish that kde would make guis that work. they do..
[03:47] <ardchoille> Please take the Windows talk to another channel.
[03:48] <arrrghhh> just seems like a simple thing that doesn't work
[03:48] <ChangeNIck> lol
[03:48] <ChangeNIck> Has anyone seen pope1?
[03:48] <arrrghhh> just not all the time...
[03:48] <flaccid> ardchoille: windows talk?
[03:48] <arrrghhh> right
[03:49] <dsmith> !ot
[03:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:50]  * flaccid yawns
[03:50] <arrrghhh> well that's why i came here
[03:50] <arrrghhh> was kubuntu support
[03:50] <marx2k> how incomplete is KDE4? Will it be totally not ready for release next month?
[03:50] <arrrghhh> because i couldn't add my user to the group vboxusers
[03:50] <adamonline46> flaccid: I think netstat shows something!  It has 3 TIME_WAIT statuses.  Two are from this machines IP to the gateway IP:netbios-ssn, and the third is from 'huck:55356' to 'huck:netbios-ssn.  (this machine with the problems is Huck)... Does that mean anything to you?
[03:50] <flaccid> !kde4 | marx2k
[03:50] <ubotu> marx2k: kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[03:51] <marx2k> I was asking more for an opinion
[03:51] <dsmith> yo mean KDE4 beta
[03:51] <dsmith> heh
[03:51] <adamonline46> flaccid: I'm thinking that maybe there is an IP conflict here.  Is there a way to get a new, different IP for Huck?
[03:51] <flaccid> adamonline46: yep so you definately have a client or networking problem. there is no firewall on these boxes?
[03:51] <flaccid> adamonline46: how did you create the ip conflict and where is the dhcp server
[03:51] <adamonline46> At the moment, no.  Only the one on the router pointing to WAN
[03:52] <the-erm> flaccid: I would guess that 1 is assigned via the dhcp, and the other one would be assigned statically.
[03:52] <the-erm> Or ... 2 cards have the same mac address might do it.
[03:52] <the-erm> But this is just a guess.
[03:53] <marx2k> adamonline46: what does the command smbtree show?
[03:53] <flaccid> the-erm: it can be set thousands of ways
[03:54] <adamonline46> The DHCP server is a linksys router, which is connected to the cable modem.  however, I DID mess around with getting static IPs for the machines in my room, and used 192.168.1.108 as the test IP reservation.  I removed the IP reservation before I even tried starting with this networking stuff, though.  However, this computer (huck) is currently assigned to 192.168.1.108
[03:54] <flaccid> adamonline46: so either set a dhcp server on the lan or set unique ips statically on each client
[03:54] <adamonline46> marx2k: As near as I can tell, it shows every last share on the network, and every computer
[03:54] <nonewmsgs> my kde is using the wrong rez for one user but display properties only corrupts the xorg.conf file.  other users are fine.  how can i fix this
[03:55] <flaccid> adamonline46: yeah so bad networking. fix your networking by turning on the dhcp server and configuring it correctly then get each client to renew. some windows boxes will need reboot to get out of arp cache or reset arp cache on each box
[03:56] <ChangeNIck> ahh where is a good channel for C programming
[03:56] <CheGuevara> #c
[03:56] <CheGuevara> suprisingly enough :P
[03:56] <ChangeNIck> hehe thanks
[03:56] <alesan> ##c actually :
[03:56] <alesan> ##c actually :)
[03:57] <CheGuevara> it redirects anyway :P
[03:57] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well, I removed all the static IP settings I made a while ago... maybe I should restart the router (the lynksys), which is my DHCP server.  It should be configured with NO static settings currently... I'll make sure it's still doing DHCP
[03:58] <marx2k> adamonline46: interesting. I hate dealing with smb.conf files myself. I use the gsambad utility to deal with it :) But when I got to the point where I couldnt handle it anymore and couldnt figure out what the error was, I made a backup of the current samba file on the problem machine and created a minimal samba config file  -- http://www.kmit.sk/~dany/article.php?story=2007033016443785
[03:58] <flaccid> adamonline46: just remember there is no reason to set a static ip on a computer unless its a server.
[03:58] <flaccid> marx2k: problem wasn't that.
[03:58] <marx2k> Oh..
[03:58] <adamonline46> flaccid: That's what I have, a file server, a web server, and a Counter-Strike: Source server...
[03:58] <marx2k> I guess I am not sure of the actual problem :)
[03:59] <adamonline46> marx2k: It was, a while back, before we figured out it wasn't 8)  But thank you
[03:59] <marx2k> adamonline46: set it as dhcp on the server and set a static IP for it on the router for the mac address
[03:59] <flaccid> adamonline46: then set them to static ip if you have to port forward to them which you do. just don't use the same ip on 2 computers lol
[03:59] <flaccid> marx2k: nah they are servers they go static.
[04:00] <marx2k> haha ok well Im just gonna go back to this PHP tutorial :)
[04:00] <flaccid> you shouldn't even do static dhcp for them as thats a dependency that can create downtime..
[04:00] <adamonline46> flaccid: Indeed!  I'm not even sure I was doing it properly in the first place, as I had figured I'd need to use the MAC address to bind the address to each machine, but there was no MAC address text field in the settings I was changing...
[04:00] <adamonline46> marx2k: PHP  rules... GL!
[04:01] <flaccid> adamonline46: yeah mac address is only used with dhcp to provide static dhcp to clients. yeah don't think normal linksys firmware supports that anyway
[04:02] <flaccid> i have a linksys wrt54gl router flashed with dd-wrt linux firmware, but i still use my ubuntu server to provide dns and dhcp
[04:03] <adamonline46> Oh yeah?  I would like to do that, but I don't think I could spare the investment in downtime
[04:03] <flaccid> what downtime adamonline46?
[04:04] <adamonline46> To configure a DHCP server with another one on the same network
[04:04] <adamonline46> er, I tried that once a while back, and had nothing but problems for a couple days; finally ditched the idea...
[04:05] <flaccid> adamonline46: you only run 1 on the same physical network (well usually). simply turn the other one off once the new one is up..
[04:05] <flaccid> adamonline46: well there are common problems, but i'm happy to show you if you want
[04:05] <adamonline46> Yeah, but I won't know it's up for sure! :O
[04:05] <adamonline46> heheh
[04:05] <adamonline46> well, I only need 1 nic to do that, right?
[04:05] <flaccid> yeah you will, its called testing :)
[04:05] <adamonline46> haha
[04:05] <flaccid> yeah it just sits on my ubuntu dapper server eeeek
[04:06] <flaccid> !dhcp
[04:06] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[04:06] <flaccid> i will pastebin my /etc/dhcpd.conf and thats really all you need
[04:06] <adamonline46> well, if you want to show me, I'll post a notice on the CS Server MOTD to expect occasional downtime; unless the network will still function should I disable DHCP...?
[04:06] <adamonline46> And I have to take a bio break, I'll BRB :)
[04:07] <flaccid> there shouldn't be any downtime particularly because machines have a least time and only renew at end of lease..
[04:07] <nonewmsgs> after loging into gnome my screen is brown with a mouse cursor and nothing else.  other users are unaffected
[04:08] <flaccid> adamonline46: all you need to do is instal package dhcp and use something like this http://pastebin.ca/839673
[04:14] <adamonline46> flaccid: What kind of changes do I need to do on the clients?
[04:14] <flaccid> none
[04:15] <adamonline46> oh nice
[04:15] <flaccid> you are just changing dhcp server, so as long as you stop the other one after your start the new one, it should be fine as long as the config is right
[04:15] <flaccid> and of course the server is running
[04:15] <flaccid> there won't be downtime and if a dhcp is not available for a few seconds it won't matter
[04:16] <adamonline46> lemme ask you a question about DNS... If I install a DNS server on the same machine, can I maintain just one 'hosts' file and have my machines search for hostnames on it?  Er, with only one NIC?
[04:16] <flaccid> see in my pastebin, how there is an entry for lister... thats the notebook im on atm which of course has that static dhcp
[04:16] <flaccid> adamonline46: it doesn't use a host file, it uses zones if you create dns zones, otherwise you can have it dns relay to your isp.
[04:17] <flaccid> so its common for people to server a local domain name and then relay other lookups external
[04:17] <adamonline46> alright, I'll stick with dhcp first...  That sounds like something else I'd like to do though
[04:18] <adamonline46> Alright, I isntalled the package, let me check the syslog, it got an error when it started up
[04:18] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to empty my recycle bin. it hasn't move from 0% in the progress dialog.
[04:19] <adamonline46> flaccid: Ah, it says no subnet declaration...
[04:19] <flaccid> there is one in my pastebin, you must of stuffed it syntactly
[04:20] <adamonline46> flaccid: I didn't get the pastebin in yet 8)
[04:20] <Alonea> I don't remember what to do when your recycle bin gets corrupted or whatever is wrong with it
[04:20] <adamonline46> flaccid: Where do I find dhcpd.conf?
[04:21] <flaccid> its /etc/dhcpd.conf
[04:21] <biovore> isn't it in /etc/dhcpd.conf I think
[04:21] <adamonline46> yup heheh, sorry, I'll figure the things out on my own from now on wehre it's shorter to type it into the terminal than IRC 8)
[04:24] <se7en> Alonea: it happens here sometimes as well ... i cancle the process and rm the files in ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[04:24] <Alonea> se7en: thanks. will try that
[04:25] <Alonea> se7en: can I just delete the files folder?
[04:26] <adamonline46> flaccid: How do I determine the correct settings for all the options, like domain-name and subnet?
[04:27] <Tonren> Hello.  Has anyone encountered the keyboard issue I describe in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4044173 this thread?
[04:27] <Alonea> se7en: er, I got an access denied and it stopped
[04:27] <flaccid> adamonline46: thats up to you. domain-name can be anything and subnet thats your choice
[04:28] <adamonline46> Oh okay.  So I can keep it at what the current router is, and not have to change all my forwards, perhaps...
[04:28] <adamonline46> Speaking of which, is that okay? To maintain teh use of my Linksys router for forwarding?
[04:29] <flaccid> this has nothing to do with routing or forwarding adamonline46
[04:29] <flaccid> you are simply replacing the dhcp server which gives the relevant fields to clients
[04:30] <flaccid> so they co-exist, just like they do at home here
[04:30] <adamonline46> Alright, nice... Thanks for takin' the time to answer my n00b question, by the way 8)
[04:30] <flaccid> np sir
[04:30] <hikenboot> anyone know where I can find package wand needed for compiling xscreensaver
[04:31] <Alonea> will try under kdesu dolphin and see if that works
[04:32] <adamonline46> flaccid: Which option do I put the exterior dns servers under? Like, the request forwarding or whatnot...
[04:32] <Alonea> note to self...having around 15 gigs in trash makes it freak out...
[04:33] <flaccid> adamonline46: um i thought you were doing dhcp not dns
[04:33] <flaccid> you only assign the dhcp server(s) in dhcpd.conf like option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.9, 203.12.160.35, 203.12.160.36, 4.2.2.1;
[04:33] <adamonline46> Oh yeah, lols... Whoah... brain fart!
[04:34] <flaccid> so in my case, it goes my local dns server, then two isps for fallback, then 4.2.2.1 for public fallback
[04:34] <flaccid> only problem is i think windows does round robin in this case
[04:35] <adamonline46> Oh okay, so since this is the DHCP server, how do I know what it's set to?  Can I declare it as a "host lister"?
[04:35] <adamonline46> Er, assign itself to a static IP?
[04:36] <flaccid> i don't get your question, there is no need for you to implement static dhcp. your servers will run on static not the dhcp server.
[04:36] <flaccid> ignore all below # Static DHCP by mac in the pastebin..
[04:36] <adamonline46> Oh okay, I can do that
[04:38] <adamonline46> flaccid: So, with this being the DHCP server, how do I make my other servers static?  Also, this is my fileserver, too, if it could maintain a static IP that would be cool...
[04:38] <flaccid> so you goto manual configuration from knetworkmanager to do that
[04:39] <dsmith> whats a good ftp server for linux?
[04:39] <flaccid> or edit /etc/network/interfaces . if they are set to static they won't poll dhcp server at all..
[04:39] <CheGuevara> dsmith: proftpd
[04:39] <flaccid> or vsftpd for something more simple
[04:39] <CheGuevara> heh was about to say that
[04:39] <dsmith> thx :)
[04:39] <adamonline46> flaccid: Gotcha
[04:40] <flaccid> sweet
[04:41] <adamonline46> flaccid: Okay.  I think it's mostly set up, but... what are the option 'domain name' and 'domain name servers' for if this is only a dhcp server?
[04:42] <flaccid> they are the domain name and dns server fields they give client
[04:42] <flaccid> so you would set that to the ip of your router or your isps dns ips directly
[04:42] <adamonline46> oooh, okay.  So the client knows how to set itself up when it joins my network 8)
[04:42] <flaccid> for domain-name-servers
[04:42] <adamonline46> Router sounds good...
[04:43] <flaccid> set domain-name to anything... it doesn't have to be in global dns it could be adamonline.com
[04:43] <flaccid> yeah thats what dhcp is. it gives the network settings to the client instead of static
[04:44] <adamonline46> I'll set it to 'iwillhaxorjoobox.com' so I can disable WPA...
[04:44] <flaccid> ah im not sure what this has to do with wpa. if you run wireless you still should be using wpa
[04:45] <adamonline46> flaccid: hehheh, just kdiding... alright, here's where I'm at... I have the Linksys at 192.168.1.1.  What should I set this subnet to?  Would it be the same?
[04:47] <flaccid> so subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[04:47] <flaccid> 192.168.1.0 is the subnet
[04:47] <flaccid> ie. the .0
[04:49] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright.  Should I re-declare the domain-name-servers inside that subnet?  And, what about 'broadcast address' and 'routers'? Would 'routers' get set to 192.168.1.1, the IP of my Linksys?
[04:50] <adamonline46> flaccid: Lol, I'm starting to remember how bad I was failing the first time I tried this, haha... I just couldn't find layman's instructions for it 8)
[04:51] <flaccid> um no domain-name-servers should be what we talked about before and  option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255; and option routers 192.168.1.1
[04:55] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, last question... Do you know what unit of measure is used in the time offset, and what it's offset from?  Or, even, just what Pacific Standard Time would be?
[04:56] <flaccid> hmm good question, how many hours in front or behind gmt is that?
[04:56] <adamonline46> PST is GMT - 8
[04:59] <adamonline46> flaccid: Or, I can just ignore it ;)
[05:02] <flaccid> option time-offset -28800
[05:02] <flaccid> i think
[05:04] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, it's better than nothing :)  Okay, I tried starting the dhcp server, but it says 'No subnet declaration for restart (0.0.0.0) Please write a subnet declaration in dhcpd.conf for the network segment to which interface restart is attached'.  Any ideas?'
[05:04] <flaccid> pastebin the dhcpd.conf and i'll correct the syntax
[05:06] <adamonline46> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/839716
[05:07] <adamonline46> Is that the right way to start the server?  I was in /etc and typed 'dhcpd start'
[05:09] <flaccid> nope, you had a couple of errors and that probably won't work
[05:09] <flaccid> use this: http://pastebin.ca/839720 and then do sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp restart
[05:09] <adamonline46> flaccid: Oh, damn... hehheh... Alright, enlighten me 8)
[05:13] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, it started!  I disabled the linksys dhcp, gonna try and renew my address :)
[05:13] <flaccid> adamonline46: you can do that by sudo dhclient eth0
[05:14] <flaccid> on the client machine eth0 being the interface
[05:14] <flaccid> actually thats probably not best. best to do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:14] <flaccid> as dhclient will be sleeping in memory already
[05:14] <adamonline46> Oh yeah?  Alright... Well, I got one from dhclient
[05:14] <flaccid> yep will work still ok
[05:15] <flaccid> then you can check ifconfig and /etc/resolf.conf and netstat -r
[05:15] <adamonline46> Oh okay, I just did the networking restart 8)
[05:15] <flaccid> i mean /etc/resolv.conf
[05:17] <adamonline46> flaccid: resolv.conf says 'search llamanet.org \n nameserver 192.168.1.1
[05:17] <flaccid> appears to be working fine if you can do both dns lookup and browser a site or whatever
[05:18] <Alonea> does ark have a problem with rar files that are in parts?
[05:18] <Alonea> !rar
[05:18] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:18] <homercycles> is there a way to keep NTFS partitions mounted? I have ntfs3g and ntfs-config installed but my C: drive isn't mounted on boot and I have to mount it as root all the time
[05:19] <flaccid> !ntfs | homercycles
[05:19] <ubotu> homercycles: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:19] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yes, I can DNS lookup fine from within Firefox :D  Thanks a ton!
[05:19] <homercycles> thanks flaccid
[05:20] <flaccid> np
[05:21] <adamonline46> flaccid: Haha, weird... I did 'dhclient' on the dhcpd machine, and it got bound to a different IP; but when I re-dhcliented from my other machine, it still got its IP from the original dhcpd machine's IP :)
[05:22] <flaccid> ah yeah, you don't want to run dhclient on the the server, that sets it to dynamicac
[05:22] <flaccid> you leave that as is as static. running dhclient manual does not check /etc/network/intefaces it just runs it direct on the specified interface
[05:23] <adamonline46> flaccid: Crud.  What should I do to fix that?  As far as I know my interfaces file has been dhcp the whole time...
[05:23] <flaccid> you said you ran it on the server which should be static..
[05:24] <flaccid> so to restore what you had in /etc/network/interfaces you do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:24] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yes, but I don't know how to make it static
[05:24] <flaccid> goto manual configuration from knetworkmanager or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[05:24] <adamonline46> manual please :)
[05:24] <adamonline46> server has xfce on it
[05:25] <adamonline46> Actually, doing 'networking restart' says 'ignoring unknown interface eth1', which is my main interface
[05:25] <flaccid> adamonline46:  here is an example of setting one interface in interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/839735
[05:25] <flaccid> check /etc/network/interfaces..
[05:27] <adamonline46> flaccid: Ahh, that worked!  nice :)
[05:27] <flaccid> is everything fixed now adamonline46?
[05:27] <adamonline46> Now it's static! How nice :D
[05:27] <adamonline46> Well, I don't think Samba is...
[05:27] <yurimxpxman> how can I remove each path name listed in a file? (specifically, I'm using the `find` command with grep to get the list of files..)
[05:28] <defmer> hi everyone
[05:28] <flaccid> ok well im off to play et
[05:28] <defmer> need to knwo if anyone seen this problem
[05:28] <ScottG> defmer: which is that?
[05:28] <flaccid> poverty, defmer?
[05:28] <adamonline46> flaccid: In fact, running 'smbtree' says it can't fonnect to any of teh drives, and says 'at <external IP>'
[05:29] <defmer> when I open the syste->preferences->appearance
[05:29] <flaccid> adamonline46: pastebin smbtree then
[05:29] <adamonline46> flaccid: But, I'll save that for later!  Thanks a lot, I'm sure happy to have some static IPs :)
[05:29] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well, if you don't mind
[05:29] <flaccid> ok
[05:29] <defmer> non of the tabs work. all i can do is close and open the window
[05:30] <defmer> well anyone?????????
[05:31] <flaccid> defmer: appears not
[05:31] <adamonline46> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/839745
[05:31] <defmer> thanks for the thought. wish you all a grt new year
[05:32] <flaccid> adamonline46: what ip is this 24.4.189.21 ?
[05:32] <adamonline46> flaccid: 24.4.189.21 is my WAN IP
[05:32] <flaccid> wtf is it trying that for each, weird
[05:32] <adamonline46> yeah, totally...
[05:33] <adamonline46> oooh you know what?
[05:33] <flaccid> are the ips on these clients set to the local subnet?
[05:33] <adamonline46> www.llamanet.org is the URL I use to access that
[05:33] <flaccid> what do you mean
[05:33] <adamonline46> maybe I should make the option domain name set to something other than that URL
[05:34] <adamonline46> if you think that could be it...
[05:34] <flaccid> um this is samba, not dhcp or dns. its actually netBT
[05:34] <adamonline46> Oh okay
[05:34] <flaccid> which box is HUCK ?
[05:34] <adamonline46> Huck is the laptop with the Samba issues
[05:34] <flaccid> is there the one you ran the command on?
[05:34] <adamonline46> But he used to smbtree just fine, even with the samba issues
[05:34] <flaccid> there=this
[05:35] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yes
[05:35] <flaccid> right and so ralph lyle etc. are ok in smb ?
[05:35] <flaccid> from client perspective
[05:35] <adamonline46> Well, I'll be!  It seems so
[05:36] <flaccid> ok
[05:36] <flaccid> have you run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart on HUCK ?
[05:36] <adamonline46> but, this is a new behavior for Huck, since the new dhcp...
[05:36] <adamonline46> yes, to get a new IP to test the dhcp
[05:36] <flaccid> lets not assume, lets fine the issue instead
[05:37] <flaccid> ok what is result of this command host ralph and also ping ralph from huck
[05:38] <flaccid> also result of arp -a on huck as well please
[05:38] <adamonline46> interesting, ping works as expected (my hosts file is not configured on Huck yet, so I'm using IPs for these)
[05:38] <flaccid> um thats not what i asked
[05:39] <flaccid> NetBT works on hostnames via broadcast
[05:39] <flaccid> you need to host ralph and ping ralph
[05:39] <flaccid> not the ip
[05:39] <flaccid> this is netBt resolution..
[05:39] <adamonline46> oh okay, host ralph returns ralph.llamanet.org has address 24.4.4189.21
[05:39] <adamonline46> ping ralph still works fine
[05:40] <adamonline46> that's kind of unnerving; it seems to be accessable from the internet or something?
[05:40] <flaccid> nah its appending dns suffix now
[05:40] <flaccid> which is not resolvable by dns
[05:40] <flaccid> the dnslookup is preceding nmblookup
[05:41] <adamonline46> arp -a: ? (192.168.1.105) at 00:xx:xx:x;X:;X: [ether] on eth0 \n ? (192.168.1.1) at 00:04:xx:xx:xx [ether] on eth 0
[05:41] <flaccid> wierd how you don't get this on the other machines. quick fix is to stop using the domain name directive with dhcp or make those resolvable
[05:41] <flaccid> yeah thats ok for arp
[05:42] <adamonline46> Make them resolvable, locally or at the dhcp server?
[05:42] <flaccid> if you really do only have this problem on this machine, you could put ralph, lyle etc. in huck's host file
[05:42] <adamonline46> Oh yeah?
[05:42] <adamonline46> Alright, I'll give that a shot
[05:42] <flaccid> resolvable by creating your own dns server or in /etc/hosts on the client machine
[05:43] <adamonline46> I swear I just changed something that had an order of resolutions in it
[05:43] <flaccid> yeah im looking for that file now
[05:43] <flaccid> i can't remember its name on linux
[05:43] <adamonline46> I think it was in smb.conf, dunno if that's important
[05:43] <adamonline46> no wait
[05:44] <adamonline46> something like innsometh.conf...
[05:45] <flaccid> hmm thats not it
[05:45] <flaccid> adamonline46: /etc/nsswitch.conf
[05:45] <adamonline46> that's it
[05:45] <flaccid> this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-391601.html
[05:45] <flaccid> i think you want at least file wins first then the dns stuff last
[05:46] <adamonline46> Yeah, I have files lmhosts wins dns winbind on Huck
[05:46] <sakthian> what are the procedure to install *.tar.gz file in kubuntu
[05:47] <flaccid> sakthian: depends what it is
[05:47] <flaccid> adamonline46: um just make dns last then restart networking and also samba on that machine then try the smbtree again i guess
[05:47] <flaccid> might fix the problem without any manual hosts
[05:49]  * flaccid drinks guiness
[05:50] <adamonline46> flaccid: I swapped my stock one back in, which has files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[05:50] <flaccid> i guess only 7 hours till jan 1st here in sydney
[05:50] <flaccid> im not familiar with those but sweet try it it looks like microsoft dns which is netbt bla
[05:50] <adamonline46> restarted networking and samba..., and same problem
[05:50] <sakthian> sorry that file is with .deb exten
[05:50] <sakthian> skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb
[05:50] <flaccid> could be stuck in arp cache but adamonline46
[05:51] <flaccid> one second adamonline46
[05:51] <flaccid> adamonline46: is this a gutsy box?
[05:51] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yes, it is
[05:51] <flaccid> sakthian: do you want to install via cli?
[05:51]  * adamonline46 sips a fat tire
[05:51] <sakthian> pls tell some procedure to install skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb in kubuntu
[05:51] <Hirvinen> !skype
[05:51] <sakthian> i cant get u,
[05:52] <sakthian> what is that cli
[05:52] <flaccid> adamonline46: whats the networks: value in there
[05:52] <adamonline46> sakthian: I'm not certain, but if you've downloaded hte package, try 'dpkg'
[05:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:52] <flaccid> sakthian: sudo dpkg -l package.db
[05:52] <adamonline46> flaccid: networks: files
[05:52] <flaccid> !skype | sakthian
[05:52] <ubotu> sakthian: please see above
[05:52] <flaccid> oops
[05:53] <flaccid> adamonline46: please try this for hosts: ..    hosts:          mdns files dns
[05:53] <flaccid> make sure you have no extra hosts in /etc/hosts then restart computer and see. this will ensure all caches are cleared and force re-election - i can't remember all the commands sorry
[05:54] <flaccid> adamonline46: i'll wait if you want
[05:54] <sakthian> if i use sudo then error comming as No packages found matching skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb.
[05:55] <adamonline46> is it normal to have 127.0.0.1 localhost AND 127.0.1.1 huck ?  Also I commented out all the ipvs stuff...
[05:55] <adamonline46> er, ipv6*
[05:55] <flaccid> sakthian: you have to be in the dir where the package. but if you read the above article, you don't need to use dpkg at all
[05:55] <flaccid> adamonline46: thats fine, leave the ipv6 stuff in
[05:56] <flaccid> sakthian: a sudo apt-get install skype after enabling the repos is fine
[05:57] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, restarting :)
[05:57] <flaccid> cool
[05:59] <adamonline46> Alright, I'm back in... Should I do anything besides go straight to smbtree?
[05:59] <adamonline46> er, flaccid ^^
[05:59] <flaccid> nah lets what that says
[06:00] <flaccid> also note that if this doesn't work you can still access them in kde using the ip like smb://192.168.1.100
[06:00] <flaccid> until you apply a fix as discussed, but maybe it will work heh
[06:01] <adamonline46> flaccid: Yeah, it's still broken...
[06:01] <flaccid> adamonline46: and you are sure the same thing does not happen on the other machines?
[06:01] <flaccid> ie. you can do host huck and it returns internal ip?
[06:01] <cptR3D> !java
[06:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:02] <adamonline46> smbtree works nicely from the rest, yes, lemme try 'host huck'
[06:02] <flaccid> do a host -v huck and pastebin the result for me please
[06:02] <sakthian> by using this "sudo apt-get install skype" i cant able to install
[06:02] <flaccid> actually that should fail, but obviously with smb its lookin up via mdns on those boxes...
[06:02] <flaccid> sakthian: what does it return. you have to enable the repos first
[06:03] <flaccid> sakthian: try reading the guide we posted
[06:03] <cptR3D> !multiverse
[06:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:03] <flaccid> ah the wiki is outdated for skype sorry sakthian
[06:03] <flaccid> !info skype
[06:03] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in gutsy
[06:05] <flaccid> sakthian: it required medibuntu, please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-a478d059cdacf2ecd6f2acf44e222b9df022581b
[06:06] <adamonline46> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/839774
[06:06] <flaccid> sakthian: you could install manual like you did, you just need to be in the directory where the package is in konsole, then do dpkg -i ./skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb
[06:06] <flaccid> sakthian: sorry sudo  dpkg -i ./skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb
[06:07] <flaccid> adamonline46: did you restart networking with that machine, because its not trying your domain given from dhcpd. i would comment out the domain name option in dhcpd.conf and the restart dhcpd and renew on the client machine that has the problem, see if it fixes it without hosts
[06:09] <flaccid> actually i got a feeling it might check smb.conf as client for resolve order hmm
[06:11] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, I've got something weird happening now on the dhcp server
[06:13] <adamonline46> I removed the subnet name, and it won't start, saying 'No subnet declaration for eth0 (169.254.8.211) <~~ What is THAT?! heheh...
[06:13] <sakthian> i got this error:dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:13] <flaccid> adamonline46: you were not meant to remove subnet, only domain name
[06:13] <flaccid> !adeptfix | sakthian
[06:13] <ubotu> sakthian: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:14] <adamonline46> flaccid: oops, that's for you ^^... Also, now when I do ifconfig, I see an extra 'device' listed, eth0:avah, with that same inet address listed
[06:14] <flaccid> adamonline46:  thats avahi daemon which is ok
[06:15] <sakthian> then
[06:16] <adamonline46> flaccid: Also, eth1 is what I've been on the whole tiem... And syslog says eth1 had lost its link for a moment there; dhcpd still doesn't sstart tho...
[06:17] <flaccid> link means that the iface went up and down for a second or cable unplugged, check your syntax for dhcpd.conf or show me
[06:17] <sakthian> im using amd 64 system but so pls give some instruction accordin to that
[06:17] <vit_> hola alguien sabe donde puedo bajar un manual para kubuntu?
[06:18] <flaccid> i think we already did sakthian but i'll check
[06:20] <flaccid> hooray for my isp
[06:21] <adamonline46> http://pastebin.ca/839793
[06:21] <adamonline46> flaccid: It's the same, but with domain name comented out
[06:22] <flaccid> and what does sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart return?
[06:23] <flaccid> i mean /etc/init.d/dhcp restart
[06:24] <adamonline46> It tells me check the syslog, and wants me to wite a subnet declaration for the subnet where eth0 is attached...
[06:24] <adamonline46> I think my NIC's tweaking out, syslog shows a bunch of connects/disconnects
[06:24] <flaccid> sounds a bit hectic, that syntax is fine yeah..
[06:25] <adamonline46> let me get eth0 plugged in and start using that
[06:25] <flaccid> and dhcpd.conf does not define anything interface wise
[06:25] <adamonline46> eth1 is an e1000, but only one cable I have even makes it show as linked
[06:25] <flaccid> hmm possible that explains that other glitch if a packet didn't get through somewhere
[06:26] <flaccid> but unlikely
[06:28] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, eth0 is up, eth 1 is down; more reliable connection... dhcp restared... lemme request an IP from huck
[06:28] <flaccid> fair enough
[06:29] <adamonline46> flaccid: There, huck renewed nicely 8)
[06:29] <flaccid> ok samba check i guess now
[06:29] <adamonline46> From huck, smbtree shows all the machines, but none are connectable; same issue
[06:30] <adamonline46> * that's with the domain-name option commented out
[06:30] <flaccid> adamonline46: pastebin /etc/resolv.conf on the client
[06:33] <adamonline46> It simply has two lines, "search llamanet.org", and "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[06:34] <adamonline46> flaccid: Well, I added Jesus and Eunice to Hucks hosts, and smbtree works with those now...
[06:35] <adamonline46> still flaws on hosts who aren't specified in /etc/hosts, though
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what interesting names you have for your machines...
[06:35] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: haha, thanks 8)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I just call mine 'Laptop' or "P900" or "Cow" (thats the gateway machine)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> or "Oldjunk"
[06:38] <adamonline46> Dr_willis: haha!  nice :)  Well, I kind of did the same... I mean, i labored over the names, and each one represents their mechanical counterpart... Eunice is an old PII, Huck's a Macbook, Ralph... Well, that was my first, and he just got a 'buddy' name... And Jesus used to be called God, but he's kind of been slowly going obsolete, so I had to downgrade the name...
[06:39] <adamonline46> flaccid: Did you copy that /etc/resolv.conf, even though I didn't pastebin it?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:39] <flaccid> adamonline46: yeah thats problem. netbt lookup should be preceeding dns but yeah i'd just go with that fix for that one machine
[06:39] <flaccid> well if all is good now then that will do heh :p
[06:42] <adamonline46> Hmm
[06:42] <adamonline46> well, I won't complain about using CLI samba; the gui forms still don't work...
[06:43] <flaccid> what are gui forms
[06:44] <flaccid> oh in kde, yeah i've given up on that kind of stuff. kubuntu is far behind a good samba implementation
[06:44] <adamonline46> flaccid: er, I mean GUI applications; forms as in entities...
[06:44] <flaccid> SWAT is far better... it actually works!
[06:44] <adamonline46> hehheh
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> what does "bye offset" mean?
[06:44] <adamonline46> web-based, eh?
[06:44] <adamonline46> 'byte ofset'?
[06:46] <flaccid> well im going to play et now
[06:46] <adamonline46> flaccid: Alright, I'll look into SWAT... What's et?
[06:47] <adamonline46> flaccid: And, thank you so very much for all your help!  I really appreciate it!  It makes the 3 days of no responses worth it 8)
[06:48] <flaccid> wolfenstein: enemy territory
[06:48] <adamonline46> er, "3 days of struggling with the problem" is more appropriate
[06:48] <adamonline46> flaccid: Ahh, got it.  Alright, well, have fun! Good night 8)
[06:48] <flaccid> adamonline46: no problem adamonline46, appreciate your kind words. i guess im one of the more active helpers heh
[06:49] <flaccid> happy ny heh
[06:49] <adamonline46> flaccid: Indeed!  Ahh yes, you too!
[06:50] <flaccid> coolio
[06:50]  * flaccid goes to play et
[06:50]  * adamonline46 waves by while dodging shrapnel
[06:50] <adamonline46> !swat
[06:50] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[06:51] <arael83> hi
[06:54] <ardchoille> !nickspam > Andresss
[07:10] <ardchoille> Is it possible to turn a text document into an openoffice spreadsheet? I can't seem to find a way to import a text document into openoffice.org calc
[07:32] <cptR3D> can someone help me change a video driver?
[07:33] <mrtimbo_> I couldnt get kubuntu and pcbsd to dual boot :(
[07:42] <Cam1223> where did every1 go?
[07:43] <mrtimbo> bed?
[07:43] <unix_infidel> new years eve most places in asia.  bout to be in most of europe.
[07:43] <unix_infidel> americans are going to sleep.
[07:44] <mrtimbo> it will be new years eve in 15 min here
[07:44] <maduser> itsallready eve here
[07:45] <Cam1223> new years is in like 20 hours
[07:45] <unix_infidel> Cam1223: where you are.
[07:45] <Cam1223> unix_infidel: where are you?
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Cam1223: in the united states even geeks tend to sleep anywhere from 2-6am.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> unless we hear the matrix calling...
[07:46] <maduser> yeah
[07:46] <Cam1223> lol im in the US too its not new years for another 20 hours
[07:47] <Cam1223> the matrix is always calling
[07:47] <maduser> take the red pill
[07:48] <mrtimbo> 2-6? i get up at 5
[07:48] <mrtimbo> lol
[07:48] <unix_infidel> psh, i write my own tracer program :-P
[07:48] <Cam1223> i evolved past sleeping and waking
[07:48] <mrtimbo> right
[07:49] <mrtimbo> someone needs some sleep lol
[07:49] <Cam1223> who needs sleep
[07:49] <Cam1223> ur either up or ur dead
[07:49] <mrtimbo> I work to hard not to sleep
[07:50] <Cam1223> one day we'll make that leap
[07:50] <okto> anyone knows about a bug in amarok lyrics? if you manually edit lyrics, it won't refresh back
[07:51] <dangaio> hello.  I installed kubuntu on my laptop.  When I go to the virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1) my font size are very large.  How can I change that?
[07:54] <ubuzztu> is it possible to boot kubuntu from a usb drive?
[07:54] <unix_infidel> ubuzztu: yes, it's even possible to have your own portable virtual ubuntu installation.
[07:55] <unix_infidel> but for flash drives, reading and writing a lot minimizes the life of the flash drive.
[07:55] <ubuzztu> wubi?
[07:55] <unix_infidel> so it's not recommended unless it's an emergency boot.
[07:56] <okto> anyone?
[07:56] <unix_infidel> psh, who needs amarok when you have mesk or even find + mplayer :-)
[07:58] <dangaio> When I go to the virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1) my font size are very large.  It was fine with Feisty.  I had the vga statement in my grub menu.lst file but now, if I put it in there, it won't show any fonts...
[07:58] <okto> but amrok offer lyrics, covers and stuff
[07:59] <unix_infidel> dangaio: yea, linux is hit and miss like that.
[08:00] <dangaio> unix_infidel: is there any way to fix this?
[08:01] <okto> dangaio: i have the same problem, it was a bug in gutsy, you can find teh thread in ubuntu launchpad
[08:01] <monteslu> use console in X :)
[08:01] <unix_infidel> dangaio: what vga number did you throw in?
[08:01] <unix_infidel> before the "ro" flag?
[08:02] <dangaio> vga=0x317
[08:02] <unix_infidel> dangaio: resolution on the screen?
[08:02] <dangaio> 1280x800
[08:03] <unix_infidel> depth?
[08:03] <unix_infidel> 16 24 bit?
[08:03] <dangaio> 24 bit
[08:03] <unix_infidel> try 788
[08:03] <unix_infidel> vga=788 ro blah blah.
[08:04] <dangaio> Ok, I will try.
[08:04] <dangaio> It will mean that I have to reboot.
[08:04] <dangaio> brb.
[08:08] <dangaio> unix_infidel, I try to go to the virtual terminal now (ctrl+alt+F1) and nothing, just a blinking cursor.
[08:08] <unix_infidel> dangaio: press enter?
[08:08] <dangaio> I did
[08:09] <unix_infidel> whoops sorry 791
[08:09] <unix_infidel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:10] <Zombocom> I have the same problem as dangaio
[08:10] <okto> dangaio: maybe its this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[08:12] <okto> anyone knows about a bug in amarok lyrics? if you manually edit lyrics, it won't refresh back (hang)
[08:12] <okto> in gutsy
[08:17] <Zombocom> um
[08:17] <Zombocom> vThe VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[08:17] <Zombocom> do I fix that
[08:17] <Zombocom> wait
[08:17] <Zombocom> I'm going to try something
[08:17] <Zombocom> to fix it
[08:17] <Zombocom> just tell me what the best idea is while i do it
[08:18] <jtmoney> Zombocom: kdesu kwrite /etc/groups
[08:18] <jtmoney> add your login name to the vboxusers group
[08:18] <jtmoney> (i think, currently on a vista machine)
[08:18] <Zombocom> it's blank
[08:18] <jtmoney> do you see: vboxusers: ?
[08:19] <Zombocom> no
[08:19] <Zombocom> let me locate vboxusers
[08:19] <jtmoney> maybe that's not the right file name
[08:19] <Zombocom> yeah
[08:19] <Zombocom> I don't see anything in the file
[08:19] <jtmoney> okay, go to konsole
[08:19] <jtmoney> type: locate group
[08:19] <jtmoney> and locate groups
[08:19] <jtmoney> to see which file it is that you need to modify
[08:20] <Zombocom> I think it's /etc/group
[08:20] <jtmoney> yeah, that's it
[08:20] <Zombocom> thanks
[08:21] <jtmoney> you'll probably have to log out for it to take effect
[08:21] <Zombocom> yeah
[08:21] <Zombocom> it says that in the error message
[08:21] <Zombocom> so I assume that it's true
[08:21] <Zombocom> lol
[08:23] <dangaio> brb,
[08:24] <fredde> hello
[08:27] <dangaio> Unix_infidel, no go.
[08:28] <dangaio> I think that I will  have to recompile the kernel with frame buffer support.
[08:44] <yolaus2000> hola
[08:46] <dangaio> saludos yolaus2000
[08:47] <yolaus2000> hola
[08:47] <yolaus2000> como tsas
[08:49] <dangaio> ok.  trabajando
[08:49] <yolaus2000> a chev y en q trabajas
[08:56] <dangaio> oilfield.
[08:59] <zouzhenhua> #bw
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> merry xmas!!!!
[09:46]  * ActionParsnip woops
[09:47] <llutz> ActionParsnip: slept well?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> yeah cos i'm on holiday since 22nd til 2nd Jan
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Booya!!
[09:52] <kraut> moin
[10:01] <camilla> Helo all early on NY eve. Can somone help me to manage my external USB storage. I cannot open it. And when I can i's only readable.
[10:08] <pag> camilla, is it ntfs drive?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> camilla, is it powered on?
[10:16] <xt828> my printer model isn't listed in the add printer wizard, what's the best move?
[10:16] <xt828> i have a Lexmark 4300
[10:18] <jussi01> xt828: go check linuxprinting.org
[10:18] <xt828> cheers
[10:18] <Jucato> !printer
[10:18] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:19] <Jucato> xt828: you can check out those links too ^^
[10:19] <xt828> thanks
[10:36] <bjoern_> hallo zusammen
[10:36] <bjoern_> kennt sich einer mit Kubuntu aus
[10:36] <jpatrick> !de | bjoern_
[10:36] <ubotu> bjoern_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:38] <Lynoure> bjoern_: But if you ask in English, we can probably help you
[10:39] <jpatrick> course :)
[10:42] <bjoern_> kann mir keiner sagen wie das geht
[10:42] <bjoern_> mit der Grafikkarte
[10:45] <Tidus> quick question.  how would i go about installing KDE4 and NOT having a broken menu system?
[10:48] <Tidus> when i follow the instructions posted here: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php ... it dumps over half my kde3 menu entries into lost+found and officially annoys me
[10:55] <stefan_> hi
[10:55] <jpatrick> hello stefan_
[10:55] <stefan_> :)
[10:57] <wesley_> adept is crased and now is the database closed please help
[10:58] <jpatrick> wesley_: have you tried "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:59] <Jucato> !adeptfix
[10:59] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:59] <jpatrick> Jucato: you lazy
[10:59] <Jucato> :P
[11:00] <wesley_> how can i install the best java from out the apt-get shell
[11:01] <jpatrick> wesley_: install kubuntu-restricted-extras from multiverse
[11:01] <jpatrick> wesley_: which will install a lot of things
[11:02] <wesley_> install java from adept its crased
[11:03] <jpatrick> wesley_: you've given you how to fix it
[11:03] <wesley_> i had but evertime i try to install java from adept it crased
[11:04] <jpatrick> wesley_: open the konsole and type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:04] <wesley_> i know that part i only needed the name from the packet
[11:04] <bazhang> wesley_: crashed or just hung, doing nothing?
[11:05] <wesley_> crased but i fixed it
[11:05] <bazhang> aha
[11:30] <romunov> laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
[11:30] <romunov> i have to reboot my pc to change mouse pointers
[11:31] <romunov> that's even below windows...
[11:31] <jussi01> romunov: you shouldnt...
[11:31] <jussi01> maybe restart x...
[11:32] <romunov> well that's what the message said
[11:32] <romunov> yes, i have to restart kde
[11:32] <romunov> but still, cmon
[11:32] <romunov> i have programs working, i can't be restarting every 10 minutes
[11:38]  * firecrotch begins burning Hardy alpha 2 disc
[11:38] <firecrotch> This ought to be interesting
[11:47] <knx_> happy new year
[11:48] <bazhang> you too knx_
[11:55] <thomas> ?
[11:57] <jussi01> thomas: you need some help?
[11:59] <thomas> no thank
[12:09] <fabian> hi
[12:10] <fabian> i've got a problem....i cant setup my network printer, when i enter the printer setup my computer takes about a minute and the the "add printer" function is disabled
[12:11] <fabian> what can that be?
[12:42] <nerian> Hi. Do you know a ebook reader plugin for firefox?
[12:43] <nerian> I have been searching in google without succes
[12:44] <nuxil> nerian, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1987
[12:58] <noaXess> !pluto
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pluto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <noaXess> !find pluto
[12:58] <ubotu> File pluto found in logwatch, openswan, strongswan
[13:05] <emanuel> Does anybody know a gnucash-like software for KDE?
[13:07] <velh0> i'm installing kubuntu 7.10 in my father's desktop, and it says there's a new version... is that true? i thought the last one was 7.10
[13:11] <Bruno> !flash
[13:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:11] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:15] <velh0> i have a problem. a 500 GB disc refuses to mount in a fresh installed Kubuntu 7.10. how do i mount the disc?
[13:17] <velh0> any help please??
[13:17] <nuxil> velh0, sudo moun /dev/hdXY or sdXY /path
[13:17] <nuxil> *mount'
[13:21] <velh0> nuxil: what it's the real correct line?
[13:23] <nuxil> velh0, depends what your disk is,, ide or sata/scsi
[13:23] <velh0> the name of the disc is sdb1
[13:23] <nuxil> example
[13:23] <nuxil> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[13:23] <velh0> so          sudo moun /dev/sdb1/path  ?
[13:23] <velh0> ok
[13:24] <ze_> hello nuxil
[13:25] <ze_> nuxil i'm velh0, but i'm in the computer that doesn't mount the 500gb sata disc
[13:25] <nuxil> ze_, what error?
[13:26] <ze_> nuxil
[13:26] <ze_> nuxil http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50252/
[13:27] <nuxil> ze_, ntfs ?
[13:28] <ze_> nuxil: yep
[13:28] <nuxil> ok
[13:28] <ze_> nuxil: but other ntfs discs are recognized
[13:28] <nuxil> you should use ntfs-3g
[13:29] <nuxil> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[13:29] <nuxil> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 "-o force"
[13:30] <nuxil> "-o force" you can force with if it complains
[13:31] <ze_> nuxil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50254/  :(
[13:31] <nuxil> no no dont use  " "
[13:32] <nuxil> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1-o force
[13:32] <nuxil> you get it.. without the " "
[13:33] <ze_> nuxil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50255/     =S ...?
[13:33] <nuxil> ze_, is the partition a dynamiclty one?
[13:33] <nuxil> erm sry for bad englsih
[13:33] <nuxil>  -o force << you missed a space
[13:34] <nuxil>  /sdb1 -o force
[13:34] <ze_> nuxil lol ok
[13:34] <nuxil> also check that /media/sdb1 is created " the dir"
[13:34] <ze_> FUSE mount point creation failed
[13:34] <ze_> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 (PBELL_Sprint)
[13:35] <nuxil> ze_, strange..
[13:36] <ze_> nuxil> /media/sdb1 doesn't exist!
[13:36] <nuxil> make it
[13:36] <nuxil> sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[13:36] <nuxil> then try again.
[13:36] <ze_> nuxil> done
[13:37] <ze_> with   sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -o force?
[13:37] <nuxil> yeas
[13:37] <ze_> nothing appears so i guess everything is fine...
[13:37] <ze_> an now?
[13:37] <nuxil> df
[13:37] <nuxil> to check
[13:37] <ze_> df?
[13:38] <nuxil> yes
[13:38] <nuxil> is it listed =?
[13:38] <ze_> it is! :)
[13:38] <nuxil> ;)
[13:38] <ze_> nuxil: and it's mounted! THANK YOU!!!
[13:39] <nuxil> now you have rw premision as root ro your ntfs drive.. be CAREFULE :p
[13:39] <nuxil> Np
[13:39] <noaXess> what do kubuntu users use for cennecting to a externals ipsec/vpn network?
[13:40] <ze_> nuxil: rw permission, that's the idea ;)
[13:40] <ze_> thanks so much
[13:40] <fernando> alguem fala portugues ?
[13:40] <ze_> fernando: sim
[13:40] <fernando> blz
[13:40] <fernando> tens como me ajudar?
[13:40] <velh0> fernando: diz
[13:40] <fernando> seguinte
[13:41] <fernando> quero fazer dual boot
[13:41] <jussi01> !pt
[13:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:41] <fernando> xp e kubuntu 7.04
[13:41] <velh0> fernando: eu sou o ze_ :)
[13:41] <fernando> opa
[13:41] <fernando> blz cara
[13:41] <jussi01> fernando: and velh0 English in here please
[13:41] <CrocoJet> hi all
[13:41] <jussi01> Hi CrocoJet
[13:41] <velh0> fernando: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:42] <CrocoJet> I was making install of kubuntu and my network was not setup. Now after finished, how can I make updates ?
[13:42] <jussi01> CrocoJet: how would you normally connect to the net?
[13:43] <CrocoJet> jussi01: I have net working now .. my problem is know .. how to make updates ?
[13:43] <jussi01> CrocoJet: start adept - fetch updates
[13:43] <jussi01> CrocoJet: adeot is in the kmenu - system -adept
[13:43] <CrocoJet> ok, let me try .. thanks
[13:51] <jussi01> CrocoJet: how did it go?
[13:56] <RickX> I have installed a kde theme which uses ice-wm decorations, but I can't find them in the window decorations menu. Does anyone have any idea what I might need to do?
[14:21] <xushi> hi all
[14:22] <xushi> i'm installing kubuntu on my pavilion dv9000. It has nvidia Geforce 8600M GS graphics card in it. I'm confused to which nvidia drivers i should install.. The normal one, or the "new" one>
[14:26] <Juukamen> my guess, the new one
[14:27] <Juukamen> anyone knows how to open up one port in "Firestarte" since i need it for kTorrent =)
[14:30] <RickX> anyone know how to remove a style in kde?
[14:35] <oreoandnapoleon> hello kubuntu - James here in the UK
[14:36] <ubuntu> Salut =)
[14:36] <oreoandnapoleon> how is everyone this NYE?
[14:38] <oreoandnapoleon> does anyone else have problems with an older PC and not being able to power off correctly with kubuntu?
[14:39] <oreoandnapoleon> I think it's something to do with ACPI
[14:41] <pteague_work> anybody know why i'm getting the error message "ifdown: interface eth1 not configured" when i try to disconnect my wireless network?
[14:42] <oreoandnapoleon> are you disconnecting your computer from the wireless network or disconnecting through the wireless network interface on another machine?
[14:44] <oreoandnapoleon> thanks guys. I'll see you later
[14:53] <velh0> how many GB of ram Kubuntu recognizes?
[14:53] <velh0> how many GB of ram can Kubuntu recognize (i mean)?
[14:54] <bazhang> depends on 32bit or 64bit
[14:55] <velh0> bazhang: so, for 32 bit how much and for 64 bit how much?
[14:55] <bazhang> velh0: how much do you have?
[14:56] <velh0> bazhang: 2GB
[14:56] <velh0> bazhang: i what to know how much CAN i have :)
[14:57] <bazhang> velh0: then 32bit is fine; if you have more than 3GB iirc then 64 bit
[14:57] <MPS> velh0: do u have a 32 or 64bit processor?
[14:57] <pag> velh0 32bit recognises 2^32 adresses ( ~4GB ) and 64bit: 2^64 ( ~32 EB )
[14:57] <MPS> bazhang: not 4GiB?
[14:58] <bazhang> MPS: do you want me to google it? :}
[14:58] <MPS> bazhang: nah. pag also thinks ~4GB :)
[14:58] <velh0> bazhang: it's a core 2 duo, so i think its 64 bit. but i'm using kubuntu 32 bit, i don't now it 64bit it's a good choice
[14:59] <bazhang> 64bit has no real value outside of being 'kewl'
[14:59] <ubuntu> installiertes BS wiederherstellen
[14:59] <bazhang> !de
[14:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:59] <velh0> bazhang: i'm sorry i didn't understand
[14:59] <velh0> bazhang: 'kewl'?
[15:00] <bazhang> let me rephrase...64bit has no real value at this point in time
[15:02] <velh0> bazhang: why? isn't it faster?
[15:02] <pag> velh0, you won't notice much difference in everyday use
[15:02] <nuxil> actualt. a 32 bit system supports  64GB and 64 system 128 GB mem
[15:02] <bazhang> velh0: depends what you use it for
[15:03] <bazhang> wow
[15:03] <gatta> salve, posso entrare
[15:03] <bazhang> spanish gatta?
[15:04] <velh0> gatta: espanhol?
[15:04] <Jucato> bazhang: italian actually. but he's gone
[15:04] <bazhang> cheers Jucato
[15:04] <Jucato> happy new year :)
[15:04] <Sanne> bazhang: well... one advantage would be: the more people use 64bit now, the sooner it will be fully supported. There are people who do benefit from 64bit, and for those better overall support would be nice.
[15:05] <bazhang> Sanne: in full agreement there :}
[15:05] <Sanne> :)
[15:05] <velh0> nuxil: i thought that depends in operative system. so any 64 bit OS supports 128GB of ram?
[15:05] <nuxil> velh0, a linux kernel :) dunno about windows
[15:06] <bazhang> thanks Jucato! and Happy New Year to you all the kubuntu'ers! so far so great!
[15:06] <warren_> hi
[15:06] <velh0> nuxil: vista 64bit recognize 128GB, at least in theory... :S
[15:06] <warren_> when i insert a installation cd of a game kde mounts it as a audio cd
[15:06] <warren_> how do i mount it as normal cd?
[15:08]  * nuxil waits for the turkey do be done :D 
[15:10] <slow-motion> hi
[15:11] <jussi01> !hi | slow-motion
[15:11] <ubotu> slow-motion: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:12] <tribaldata> Question : Anyone managed to get wireless manager to stop asking for rott password ?
[15:13] <InCaPaCe> hi, i tired to install a plugin for xmms but when i do ./configure it gives me an error... configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***   so i installed glib but it doesn't work.. can you help me? (sorry for my english)
[15:14] <InCaPaCe> *tried
[15:14] <Sanne> InCaPaCe: can't you install the plugin from the repositories? Which one is it?
[15:14] <nuxil> you need to install the glib dev pak if you are compiling
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year All ! and howdy :-)
[15:15] <InCaPaCe> the glib dev pak ..
[15:15] <Sanne> InCaPaCe: what is the name of the xmms plugin?
[15:16] <InCaPaCe> singit
[15:16] <ze_> nuxil, remember me? i can't acess the 500gb again... :(
[15:16] <nuxil> lol.. what did you do now?
[15:16] <ze_> nuxil i just restarted kubuntu...
[15:17] <Sanne> InCaPaCe: install package xmms-singit with adept, synaptic, or from the command line with: sudo apt-get install xmms-singit
[15:17] <nuxil> ze_, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media -o force
[15:17] <nuxil> -> /media/sdb1
[15:17] <InCaPaCe> Sanne: everytime that i must compile something it gives me the same error
[15:18] <InCaPaCe> not only for this plugin
[15:18] <ze_> nuxil it ok now :)
[15:18] <nuxil> InCaPaCe, you are missing dev packages..
[15:18] <nuxil> ze_, try to remember the command :P
[15:18] <ze_> nuxil> but do i have to do this EVERYTIME i start kubuntu?
[15:19] <nuxil> ze_, no nessesary
[15:19] <nuxil> ze_, edit your fstab
[15:19] <ze_> nuxil: how?
[15:19] <Sanne> InCaPaCe: you should install from the repositories if the package exists. If you *must* compile, you need to install the development files for the library configure complains about, usually named lib<libname>-dev
[15:19] <InCaPaCe> mm
[15:19] <nuxil> ze_,  kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[15:19] <InCaPaCe> ok i try with apt-cache search
[15:20] <Sanne> InCaPaCe: for xmms-singit, you just need to enable the universe repository and do what I said. You can read about repositories here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:20] <InCaPaCe> thx
[15:20] <Sanne> you're welcome :)
[15:20] <ze_> nuxil: wow! :| what shoulkd i do? now?
[15:22] <nuxil> /dev/sdb1        /media/sdb1  ntfs-3g   defaults 0       0
[15:22] <nuxil> put that inn
[15:22] <nuxil> you might want to add ,umask=007,gid=46
[15:24] <ze_> nuxil: should i enter those 2 lines in the bottom of fstab?
[15:25] <nuxil> ze_, paste you fstab to pasebin
[15:25] <nuxil> *pastebin
[15:26] <ze_> nuxil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50266/
[15:29] <ze_> nuxil: what should i do?
[15:29] <InCaPaCe> nothing to do
[15:29] <nuxil> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50267/
[15:29] <nuxil> typo- > media/ssb1--> sdb1
[15:30] <InCaPaCe> i can't understand which dev package i need..
[15:30] <ze_> nuxil: yeah i noticed that ;)
[15:30] <nuxil> anyway.. i have to go eat dinner :D
[15:31] <InCaPaCe> dinner ? at 4.30? :S
[15:32] <nuxil> no.. 1700.. but i have to go to my fokes to eat.
[15:32] <ze_> maybe he's from another country ;)
[15:32] <ze_> nuxil: should it work fine now?
[15:33] <ze_> nuxil: if dont' i still can do     sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media -o force[15:17] <nuxil> -> /media/sdb1             right?
[15:33] <nuxil> i thibk so.. if not.. ther is only minor changes
[15:33] <BluesKaj> mostly everyone here is from different countries
[15:33] <nuxil> ze_, yes you can do that
[15:34] <ze_> nuxil: thank you so much for your time, my friend
[15:34] <ze_> nuxil: have a GREAT 15:34 dinner ;)
[15:35] <karthikp_> Question: Why are images garbled up on akgregator?
[15:36] <karthikp_> If there's a feed linking directly to an image, all I get is a screen full of unicode.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> karthikp_, which images ?
[15:36] <karthikp_> jpegs mostly, I'd say.
[15:36] <karthikp_> (I think)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> got a URL ?
[15:37] <ze_> these Kubuntu aplets open all my folders with Dolphin. How can i make them open only with Konqueror?
[15:37] <karthikp_> Sure. Try the reddit feed
[15:37] <bmack> im trying to get my ati radeon 2600 hd vid card driver installed correctly. when i go into restricted drivers and enable the ati accel driver. after i boot up it gives me a error at startup about xorg.conf
[15:37] <karthikp_> http://reddit.com/.rss
[15:37] <bmack> so i have to edit fglrx back to vesa for me to boot up
[15:37] <bmack> http://pastebin.ca/840168
[15:37] <bmack> copy of my xorg.conf
[15:38] <karthikp_> So, there are stories that link director to pics - marked as (pic)
[15:38] <karthikp_> directly
[15:38] <karthikp_> And these images fill the screen with unicode.
[15:38] <karthikp_> At least that's what I think it is...
[15:38] <BluesKaj> ze_, Open Konqueror>Settings>Configure Konqueror>File Associations>Inode>System Directory>Application Prefernce Order , move Konqueror to the top , click apply and ok
[15:39] <ze_> BluesKaj: beautifull! thank you so so much
[15:40] <ze_> BluesKaj: ho-ow, not done yet
[15:41] <Daisuke-Ido> so no 8.04 LTS for kubuntu, eh?
[15:41] <karthikp_> Aw. I should have never posted the reddit feed. Stop reading the feed and focus, people! :)
[15:41] <ze_> BluesKaj: the applet "System Menu" (i think that's the name in english) stills open Dolphin as default :(
[15:44] <karthikp> Any thoughts on Akgregator messing up pic-only links, then? Anyone?
[15:44] <nnaushahi> i got labtec web cam... i m not able to see ? any fix
[15:45] <BluesKaj> ze_, not sure but you may have to relogin
[15:45] <ze_> BluesKaj: key, see ya ;)
[15:48] <comx> Hey, I've got a question about flash player. I know theres not a PowerPC version so what would I use and how do I install it?
[15:49] <ze_> BluesKaj : System Menu still opens only in Dolphin :(
[15:49] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: wow... finally got the news?
[15:50] <ze_> BluesKaj : maybe it's a dolphin applet (?)
[15:51] <rothchild> ze_ why don;t you just uninstall dolphin?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ze_, try it again , but sconfigure the konqueror system profile , then save it
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> comx: I don't know about PPC....do x86 CHROOTs work with PPC
[15:53] <comx> nosrednaekim: I think so...
[15:53] <BluesKaj> ze_, naturally dolphin will open if you click on the icon , just edit the kmenu in kcontrol and delete it from the list , then save
[15:55] <thadir> Good day all :) and for evry one in the more western continents Happy new year :)
[15:55] <karthikp_> Eastern
[15:56] <karthikp_> Westerns are the slowpokes
[15:56] <karthikp_> :P
[15:56] <ze_> BluesKaj: but i'm not opening dolphin. i'm not clicking in dolphin icon. i'm just using a KDE applet to easy acess my home folder, devides, etc, and i want to open them in Konqueror. I'm using an applet, not kmenu
[15:56] <nosrednaekim> comx: then that is what you will probably have to do.,.. x86 firefox in a Chroot
[15:57] <thadir> also good :). Hey a general question. I had some problems with me KDE X11 Mouse themes. Afther I installed one the whole mouse function kept crashing I reinstalled the Kubuntu seeing i didnt do eny thing special.. Eny one a idea what the couse could be?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> does /Home show in the system menu applet
[15:58] <ze_> BluesKaj: yes
[15:58] <ze_> BluesKaj: i think i must edit that applet, but i don't now how, there is no option
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ze_, you have to save the konquer file management profile in konq settings after making the change \
[15:59] <ze_> the changes are maded
[15:59] <ze_> BluesKaj: and they work well wen i'm opening a disc drive
[15:59] <Daisuke-Ido> nosrednaekim: i've been away for the past couple weeks or so, been swamped with holiday stuff and getting ready to go back to school
[16:00] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke-Ido: ah... then yeah... that seems the to be the way its going to be
[16:00] <ze_> BluesKaj: when i open a disc drive it opens Konqueror now, that it's fine now
[16:00] <ze_> BluesKaj: but the OTHER applet is opening Dolphin instead
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ze_, what about Home folder
[16:01] <ze_> BluesKaj: what about it? i'm sorry, didn't get the question...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> what opens the Home Folder , Konq or Dolphin ?
[16:02] <tomahaK> Pressing "Administrator Mode" button in Gutsy Kubuntu does NOTHING? Any idea?
[16:02] <ze_> BluesKaj: dolphin
[16:02] <ze_> BluesKaj: also the same with the recicle bin applet :(
[16:05] <ze_> BluesKaj: ey! working fine now!
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ze_, make sure all instances of dolphin are closed , do the konqueror instruction again and make sure you have only that konq open and no others , then in konq settings ,"configure view profiles" , choose the konq "file management" and save it .
[16:06] <ze_> BluesKaj: you mentioned Inode>System Directory, but you forgot to mention Inode>Directory also
[16:07] <ze_> BluesKaj: it's working fine now
[16:07] <ze_> BluesKaj: thank you VERY MUCH for the teaching :)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> inode system
[16:08] <BluesKaj> np :)
[16:08] <Dr_willis> Better then a sharp stick in the Inode!
[16:08] <Dr_willis> I hate it when a Dolphin gets a hold of my Inode!
[16:08] <Dr_willis> :P
[16:08]  * Dr_willis has had too much sugar today.
[16:09] <Dr_willis> what does the I in Inode stand for anyway?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> konq is a bitch to setup due to the number options
[16:09] <BluesKaj> \of
[16:11] <tomahaK> Boys... Any Idea: Administrator Mode buttons in "System Settings" on my Gutsy don't work. Known bug?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis,Inodes : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-filesystem-inodes.html
[16:12] <Dr_willis> Ive heard others mention it befor tomahaK
[16:12] <BluesKaj> :) I'll be yer real interested too
[16:12] <tomahaK> where couldn't find anything on the web
[16:12] <Dr_willis> tomahaK,  heard people in here asking about them.
[16:13] <Dr_willis> they seem to be working for me just fine however
[16:13] <Dr_willis> you could try running the config tools with kdesu, or some other Sudo way
[16:15] <tomahaK> thanks Dr_willis
[16:16] <Dr_willis> I do have my system set up a bit insecure. :) my user dosent have to use his sudo password.
[16:16] <Dr_willis> You proberly dont want to try that.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, sometimes the !adeptfix instruction commands work , but it takes a relogin
[16:25] <bazhang> happy new year to you all!
[16:27] <mani213> i have a problem with my packet manager
[16:27] <Mr_Sonoma> is there a reason that when i connect my flash drive it doesnt get automatically mounted in gutsy? seems like it used to in fiesty
[16:27] <mani213> when i download a file it says canot commit or something and an erorr has ocured
[16:27] <mani213> what sould i do to fix it?
[16:27] <bmack> how can i manually install the fglrx driver for ati?
[16:27] <bmack> besides useing restricted drivers
[16:28] <karthikp> Is there any reason ksysguard cannot display my GPU temperature (as shown by nvidia-settings)?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> bmack, you have to disable the restricted driver first , then install the new driver from the ati site if that's the one you want to use.
[16:29] <bmack> how do i disable the restriced driver
[16:29] <bmack> err
[16:29] <bmack> stupid question
[16:29] <BluesKaj> bmack , system settings/advanced
[16:30] <karthikp> Can I 'add' a sensor to the localhost in ksysguard so that it shows my GPU temperature?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> admin mode , bmack
[16:30] <karthikp> Or as a newbie, should I be vehemently discouraged from having such impure thoughts about my kubuntu install?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> GPU ?
[16:31] <karthikp> GeForce 6800
[16:31] <karthikp> (Nividia)
[16:31] <bmack> i get a error in xorg.conf at bootup saying there is no fglrx driver installed so i have to change it to vesa in xorg.conf so that means it isnt installed right
[16:31] <bmack> or its disabled
[16:32] <karthikp> (Nvidia, I mean)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> ok, it's always best to avoid initials and acronyms here, not all are gamerz or familiar with those phrases.
[16:33] <karthikp> Uh...GPU0 should theoretically be the sensor for the graphics card, right?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> bmack, was the restricted driver enabled when you were booting up ?
[16:33] <bmack> no
[16:33] <bmack> or yes
[16:33] <bmack> it was
[16:33] <karthikp> Just like CPU0 is for the sensor for the chip...
[16:34] <BluesKaj> well bmack , use admin mode and enable the restricted driver first before trying the ati proprietary driver
[16:34] <Cynnic> i've got a wireless networking problem with a default kubuntu 7.10 install, knetworkmanager won't load so i can set up WPA.. anyone here know where i can go for help?
[16:34] <karthikp> Okie. I quit.
[16:34] <bmack> how come my restricted drivers option is gone from system settings > advanced
[16:34] <BluesKaj> bmack, once you do that, reboot
[16:35] <BluesKaj> admin mode ?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> gone or just greyed out ?
[16:35] <bmack> DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"
[16:36] <bmack> there is no restriced drivers option
[16:36] <BluesKaj> monitor &display /hardware ...what driver is listed ?
[16:37] <bmack> vesa
[16:37] <bmack> for both
[16:38] <camilla> Hello! happy New Year Cam someone help me with the external drive. I've tryed everything. Checked the disk in Windows.
[16:38] <bmack> i have ati radeon hd 2600
[16:40] <Dr_willis> camilla,  help ya with what.. and what exactly have you tried.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> bmack, open adept and in the searchbar type ' fglrx ' then look for the restricted driver in the list , prolly near the bottom
[16:42] <camilla> I tried with; ntfs, kdisc, gksu gparted
[16:42] <bmack> none are installed
[16:43] <BluesKaj> or better still choose the 'fglrx kernel source' and the 'xorg-driver-fglrx'
[16:44] <BluesKaj> bmack, also search for restricted driver , to see if you have one available for your card
[16:44] <Cynnic> can anyone point me to where i can find help with networkmanager?
[16:44] <camilla> and entered a mountingpoint and set it to ntfs write
[16:45] <bmack> ok
[16:45] <bmack> does this install the same driver from the ati site
[16:45] <camilla> I google and found some scrips but I' such a noob
[16:45] <camilla> I'm not sure how to enter them
[16:46] <BluesKaj> bmack, no , it will install the driver from the repositories, that hardware detection has determined will work with your card .
[16:46] <Dr_willis> camilla,  ok.. whats your fstab entry for the disk In question?
[16:46] <bmack> ok nothing for restricted
[16:46] <bmack> and i installed the other 2
[16:47] <camilla>  /dev/sdb1
[16:47] <bmack> is that it?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> bmack, ok reboot
[16:47] <bmack> ok
[16:47] <Dr_willis> camilla,  whats the whole fstab line then for that device
[16:47] <camilla> was that what you asked for?
[16:48] <camilla> Ok File system table
[16:49] <Dr_willis> - /etc/fstab line for the sdb1 device :)
[16:51] <bmack> in monitor settings it still says vesa for both
[16:53] <BluesKaj> bmack, look in sys/settings/advanced
[16:54] <BluesKaj> ok, gotta go push some snow for 30 mins or so , BBL.
[16:55] <camilla>  /dev/sdb1   ntfs-3g  /media/%2extern
[16:55]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about not shovelling snow
[16:55] <camilla>  /dev/sdb1   ntfs-3g  /media/%2extern
[16:55] <Dr_willis> well why is there a %2 in there - is the first question....
[16:55] <genii> space
[16:55] <camilla> I'm not sure how to get the info. you need.
[16:55] <Dr_willis> Looks like the fstab entry is slightly wrong
[16:55] <camilla> %2 I dont know
[16:56] <Dr_willis> and in the wrong order
[16:56] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[16:56] <genii> Dr_willis: I notice this is happening when System Settings area is used to define mounts, weird crap is inserted to the fstab
[16:57] <camilla> That was wath happened it was given to me, kinda of.'
[16:57] <Dr_willis> This is why i always edit mine manually. :)
[16:58] <Dr_willis> camilla,  i would do a 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' and fix the fstab line
[16:58] <Dr_willis> using mine as an example
[16:58] <camilla> I will know how to soon, me too..
[16:58] <Dr_willis> /dev/sdb1  /media/extern  ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[16:58] <Dr_willis> i THINK would be your correct line.
[16:59] <Dr_willis> and the /media/extern dir MUST exist befor mounting
[16:59] <Dr_willis> You may want touse a better name then extern
[17:00] <camilla> Now what:-)
[17:00] <genii> camilla: Do you have more than 1 external storage you use? If so I recommend to use uuid instead of sda sdb or so on
[17:00] <camilla> Can I delet them now? And star over?
[17:02] <camilla> I'll try to paste the text, but the pastebin accuse me of spamming
[17:03] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50275/
[17:05] <kyron> Ahoy, how does one `enable` "Restricted Drivers" using the console (attempting to install nvidia drivers...the wiki is brilliant enough to ASSume that we always have a GUI...especially for graphic driver installation O_o )
[17:06] <jhutchins> kyron: There should be someone around who can answer that one, be patient.
[17:06] <genii> camilla: Is this disk sdb1 or sdf1 ?
[17:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj? Dr_willis?
[17:07] <kyron> jhutchins, hehe, thanks, that's why I am here ;)
[17:07] <camilla> I think it's both
[17:07] <camilla> I tried so many times
[17:08] <camilla> The disk is unmounted and removed now
[17:09] <genii> hmm
[17:10] <camilla> I reinstalled so many times now, I crashen one thing or the other. But now everything else I use to crash is stable. and I manages to make the external harddrive work before :_)
[17:10] <kyron> jhutchins, well...an alternative is to tell how to launch `System Settings` from the command line (remote X available here)
[17:11] <kyron> oh...lovely systemsettings
[17:11] <genii> camilla: Put in front of lines 15 and 16 a #, then in line 17, make it only /media/Extern    instead of /media/%2Extern
[17:12] <genii> camilla: Then do ctrl-x and choose Y to save the file, Enter or Return key to choose same name for the file
[17:14] <camilla> Sorry I'm such a noob. Shoud I start in Kate or something, I cannot edit in terminal window
[17:14] <genii> camilla: Yes, you are right now in the editor called nano in fact
[17:15] <camilla> Yees and are I able to cut and paste ?
[17:16] <genii> camilla: You do not need to cut and paste anything. Just use the arrow keys on the keyboard to go to the lines which in the pastebin are lines 15 and 16. Go to far left side of these lines then hit shift-3 to make a #
[17:18] <genii> camilla: After you make these two # at the start of lines 15 and i6, go with the arrow keys to the last line and then put the cursor at the E of Extern then hit the Backspace key twice
[17:18] <camilla> Ok I'm on it now :-)
[17:18] <genii> camilla: Then continue as instructed, eg: ctrl-x  then choose Y to save file, Enter or Return key for same name as before to save the file as
[17:20] <camilla> It' done thx
[17:22] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50278/
[17:22] <camilla> I'll restart now
[17:22] <Dragonath> there's about 3 different kernels available for load in my grub, should I just remove entries for older versions? will it break something?
[17:22] <genii> camilla: Good, that is how it is supposed to look now.
[17:23] <genii> camilla: camillaNo restart needed
[17:23] <genii> 'bah
[17:23] <camilla> Ok
[17:23] <genii> camilla: Make sure now that /media/Extern exists
[17:23] <kaotrix> ./kick selene
[17:23] <kaotrix> lmao
[17:24] <camilla> It exist
[17:24] <kaotrix> in my pants?
[17:24] <genii> camilla: Does the directory have a lage E and not a small e ?
[17:24] <ardchoille> !ot | kaotrix
[17:24] <ubotu> kaotrix: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:24] <NickPresta> Dragonath, it's usually best to keep one previous version in case something breaks with the version you're using. You can remove the older versions if you want but then you will have no fallback if something breaks.
[17:24] <camilla> Its a  /  infront should I remove it?
[17:24] <Dragonath> ok, thanks
[17:24] <genii> camilla: camillaNo
[17:25] <kaotrix> stfu ardchoille
[17:25] <camilla> It is still assigned  /media/%2extern
[17:25] <genii> camilla: No, there should be a / there do not do anything to try and alter that
[17:25] <NickPresta> lol
[17:26] <camilla> I see it when I hover abov the folder
[17:26] <genii> camilla: Thats fine, don't mind what it says there.
[17:26]  * Dragonath reboots and hopes that nothing breaks
[17:27] <genii> camilla: in konsole, do:  sudo mount -o remount -a
[17:27] <genii> camilla: And then see if it gives messages or not, etc
[17:27] <BluesKaj> kyron,  if you're at the TTY , sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source
[17:28] <camilla> Should I plugg in the drive
[17:28] <genii> camilla: Yes
[17:28] <camilla> Ok her we go
[17:29] <camilla> It says its not supported, I'll will wait a minute then try again
[17:29] <camilla> And paste the result
[17:30] <Dragonath> argh
[17:30] <genii> camilla: Something about UID or such?
[17:30] <Dragonath> how do I replace this - OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1) - with something more to do with ATI?
[17:31] <Dragonath> and have it remain even if I reboot the PC
[17:31] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50280/
[17:32] <camilla> But when I try to mount it it says that I'm not allowed to mount
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, pastebin your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...then we can edit
[17:32] <genii> camilla: Ah, OK. Please report result of the command:  mount
[17:32] <nuxil> so sudo first :p
[17:32] <genii> camilla: To pastebin please
[17:33] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50282/
[17:34] <Dragonath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50283/
[17:35] <genii> camilla: The mount command tells us the drive is not mounted as far as the system thinks. So you should be able to just do:    mount /media/Extern
[17:36] <camilla> Then it says that only root can mount.
[17:36] <nuxil> i tould ya.. sudo first :p
[17:36] <genii> camilla: In this case then use sudo before the mount command
[17:37] <genii> nuxil: Yup
[17:37] <camilla> Ok
[17:37] <genii> nuxil: Though for just reporting in what is mounted, user issuing mount works
[17:38] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50285/
[17:38] <nuxil> normaly yes
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[17:38] <nuxil> camilla, your missing that dir
[17:39] <ardchoille> !away | tribaldata
[17:39] <ubotu> tribaldata: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[17:39] <nuxil> camilla, sudo mkdir /media/extern or what ever
[17:39] <genii> camilla: You fibbed to me when I asked if the directory of /media/Extern   existed :)
[17:39] <Dragonath> BluesKaj: thanks
[17:39] <kanton> buenas tardes
[17:39] <camilla> it does
[17:39] <camilla> :-)
[17:40] <genii> camilla: Remember I asked about large E small e etc etc
[17:40] <camilla> But it is /Extern
[17:40] <nuxil> camilla, is it a windows disk ?
[17:40] <camilla> yes
[17:40] <genii> camilla: do: mkdir /media/Extern
[17:40] <genii> camilla: do: sudo mkdir /media/Extern
[17:40] <genii> rather
[17:40] <nuxil> camilla, use mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxx /media/Extern
[17:41] <nuxil> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxx /media/Extern -o force
[17:41] <genii> nuxil: I sense her issue is that /Extern is not same as /media/Extern
[17:41] <nuxil> heh
[17:42] <neg> hi guys
[17:42] <ardchoille> Looks to me like /media/Extern doesn't exist, as per the error
[17:42] <nuxil> ho
[17:42] <genii> ardchoille: Exactly
[17:42] <neg> can i ask you a question?
[17:42] <ardchoille> neg: Sure
[17:42] <nuxil> neg, ask
[17:42] <neg> i have a problem
[17:43] <nuxil> dont we all :)
[17:43] <neg> i configured connection to internet throught br2684ctl
[17:43] <camilla> Ok wait
[17:43] <neg> and it works
[17:43] <neg> but konqueror dont see it
[17:43] <neg> it always says that any site is unreacheble
[17:44] <neg> but  ping irc kopete and other work
[17:44] <pag> neg, I'd blame it on knetworkmanager.
[17:44] <nuxil> neg, IS br2684ctl eth0 ?
[17:44] <neg> no its nas0
[17:44] <nuxil> bridge?
[17:44] <neg> i use winmodem
[17:44] <neg> on connexant chip
[17:45] <nuxil> neg, just trie to .. ifconfig eth0 down.. i have about the same issue if my eth0 is up and my inet is on eth2
[17:46] <nuxil> neg, if you have some network on eth0. you might want to masquerade with iptables :)
[17:47] <ardchoille> camilla: Are you aware that Linux is case-sensitive?  /media/extern is not the same as /media/Extern
[17:47] <kyron> blackflag, thanks for the tip but the problem that the drivers were "restricted"...in any case, I went through the procedure using a remote X session ;)
[17:48] <neg_> sorry
[17:48] <neg_> i hanged out
[17:48] <neg_> so if i will remove networkmanager problem will gone?
[17:49] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50289/
[17:50] <camilla> I just want to get rid of all the folders and be able to start over again
[17:50] <kristjan_> how to downgrade a package?
[17:50] <pag> neg_, can't guarantee... give it a shot?
[17:51] <neg_> sorry english is't my native. what means give it a shot?
[17:51] <ardchoille> camilla: You need to replace /dev/xxx with the actual device (ie /dev/sda1 or /dev/hda1, etc)
[17:51] <nuxil> neg, it means give it a try
[17:51] <pag> neg_, it means "try it"
[17:51] <camilla> I did
[17:51] <neg_> ^)
[17:51] <nuxil> ;)
[17:51] <neg_> thanks
[17:51] <genii> camilla: Still you have to create yet the folder of /media/Extern.So:   sudo mkdir /media/Extern
[17:51] <neg_> i'll
[17:52] <camilla> After a couple of tries :-)
[17:52] <ardchoille> camilla: Ah, you did, ok good
[17:52] <genii> camilla: Then make sure that the file browser is also not looking at that folder when you try to do the mount command
[17:52] <nuxil> neg, install network-config
[17:52] <neg_> oh yes it's
[17:53] <neg_> i just quited knetworkmanager
[17:53] <neg_> thanks a lot
[17:53] <pag> np :)
[17:53] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50290/
[17:53] <camilla> Now it says that the folder exist
[17:53] <nuxil> lol..
[17:53] <nuxil> sorry
[17:54] <ardchoille> camilla: Yes, because you created it earlier. You don't need to create the folder each time
[17:54] <camilla> No browser looking
[17:54] <genii> camilla: Also make sure that the command prompt is not inside of that folder too. For now to do:  cd ~                          should work
[17:54] <camilla> Sorry I confused the messages.
[17:56] <genii> camilla: Then now if sdf is the correct drive to mount, the fstab entry should be good, and then can do:   sudo mount /media/Extern
[17:57] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50293/
[17:58] <camilla> Now it shows thats the /dev/sdf1 (Extern hårddisk) is the drive
[17:58] <genii> camilla: Please put to pastebin the result of the command:     sudo fdisk -l
[17:59] <genii> camilla: Because it may be that sdf is not the correct drive in this case, but another like sdb
[17:59]  * genii sips his coffee and thinks about uuids
[17:59] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50294/
[18:00] <BluesKaj> gents/ladies , I was chastised for suggesting the use of the "cat" command when trying to find out what the CPU speed is , for example ," cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz " ...what is a safer/better alternative ?
[18:00] <camilla> (Extern hårddisk) is the drivers name
[18:02] <genii> camilla: sdf1 IS correct.It is saying now something is busy. So either you have some file browser looking at /media/Extern or you are in the directory of /media/Extern with the command prompt, or else more remotely, there is a file check happening to /dev/sdf or something of this sort
[18:02] <camilla> I.ll terminate everything. And redo the command
[18:04] <camilla> Now skim crached :-)
[18:04] <genii> camilla: First to make sure it is not already mounted somehow, to do: sudo umount /media/Extern                        it may be that the previous time when force was used it worked to make the computer think it was mounted even though at that time the directory did not exist
[18:05] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[18:07] <genii> camilla: That is not a proper URL for pastebin
[18:07] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50295/
[18:07] <camilla> Sorry
[18:08] <sd132> man, I wish my monitor driver supported my native resoloution for my monitor
[18:16] <quaternary> Hi
[18:17] <quaternary> Ive been just upgrading to feisty and an error occured and the upgrader crashed. What should I do to repair the damage?
[18:18] <zibrah3ed> have you used automatix
[18:19] <hdevalence> How do I configure muti-monitors without X going on the fritz?
[18:19] <quaternary> ive used adept manager
[18:19] <genii> camilla: I apologise for lag, work called me away fr a bit
[18:20] <genii> bah, they left already
[18:20] <zibrah3ed> quaternary: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:20]  * genii sips his coffee
[18:21] <quaternary> It 'thinks' it is feisty already, but it crashed on 61% of the installation process
[18:23] <camilla> Thanks guys it works.
[18:23] <camilla> I restarted and its there :D
[18:25] <genii> camilla: Good
[18:26] <matthew> I just installed kubuntu 7.10 but how can i make the wireless connect?
[18:26] <genii> camilla: Do you use more than 1 external storage?
[18:26] <matthew> My wireless adapter was working fine in the previous version.
[18:27] <comx> matthew: What wirless adapter do you have?
[18:28] <matthew> comx.. i don't know.. let me do an lspci
[18:28] <matthew> comx: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:30] <CrocoJet> how can I check if I have jre installed ?
[18:30] <quaternary> aptitude show packagename?
[18:30] <CrocoJet> I came from Fedora distro .. so little lost with .deb package
[18:30] <Schuenemann> CrocoJet, type java -version
[18:30] <CrocoJet> oh ok
[18:30] <CrocoJet> thanks
[18:31] <camilla> No, exept a 1G Mp3 player flsh
[18:31] <camilla> flsh
[18:32] <comx> matthew: Ok well you should just be able to go and slect the wireless network to join if it's working. If not I really can't help
[18:32] <camilla> It should be FLASH :)
[18:32] <matthew> another question--how can i get updates?  I don't see the usual update thingy on the lower right.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> i alwsya just do a..
[18:33] <genii> camilla: I ask because the hard disk may not always be seen as the disk sdf if you have some other usb thing which has storage plugged in. One day it may be sdf another day it may be seen as sdg or some other letter.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get  upgrade
[18:34] <genii> camilla: The best solution in these cases is to use the disk UUID instead of the /dev/sdf1    name
[18:35] <camilla> Ok thats intresting. and how do I ..
[18:35] <camilla> Make that happen?
[18:36] <genii> camilla: To find the UUID, to do: blkid|grep sdf1
[18:36] <matthew> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade  basically said nothing to be done..
[18:36] <matthew> This is not accurate.. it's a fresh install from CD
[18:36] <genii> camilla: Then you will have a line something like: /dev/sdf1: UUID="9a7ed732-eda0-20dd-24bf-68e341ce0fbd" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:37] <Dr_willis> heh. I removed all the uuids from, my fstabs. :)
[18:37] <Dr_willis> You could mount it by label also.
[18:37] <camilla>   /dev/sdf1: TYPE="ntfs"
[18:37] <matthew> Wow.. 7.10 is just really buggy... isn't it..
[18:38] <genii> camilla: What you would take from here is the part: UUID=9a7ed732-eda0-20dd-24bf-68e341ce0fbd             <--note no quotes in this         and then put that in the /etc/fstab for where it now has /dev/sdf1
[18:38] <Dr_willis> That seems odd.. The UUID for my NTFS disks is much shorter.
[18:38] <genii> camilla: So blkid|grep sdf1  gives no UUID?
[18:38] <comx> matthew: I found it that way so I kept the LTS version. runing on my computers.
[18:38] <Dr_willis> In my case it gives -->  /dev/hda1: UUID="C4CF0DF4CF0C50C" LABEL="XPBoot" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:39] <genii> Dr_willis: The length varies, I*'ve noticed
[18:39] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[18:39] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[18:39] <camilla> Nope
[18:39] <Dr_willis> thats.. odd :)
[18:39] <matthew> comx: ok.. so i might need to return to the previous version (that's what you mean by LTS somehow?)
[18:40] <camilla> But the drive is busy copying my musik to the disk
[18:40] <genii> camilla: OK, so we cannot in this case substitute the UUID for sdf1, unfortunately.
[18:40] <comx> matthew: I doubt, But if things are working better then it shoulden't be turned down. I use the LTS version on Mac iBook because the new ones not to great on it
[18:41] <matthew> comx: ok.. well, let me try fixing things a bit.. I cannot get updates for some reason.. let me reboot and see if that does anything.
[18:41] <genii> camilla: The next thing would be to make an fstab entry for the other usb storage you use, and if it has a uuid to use that in it's fstab entry.
[18:41] <Dr_willis> Cool. I can use labels :) i reber how. example fstab entry with Labels
[18:41] <Dr_willis> LABEL="XPBoot" /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[18:42] <comx> matthew: Ok see what it does.
[18:45] <makuseru> is there anyway to get the old version of Gaim, before it was Pidgin?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> googletalk not working in pidgin ?
[18:46] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, sometimes it doesn't for me
[18:46] <Raspberry> google talk works.. you have to change the server (default) from gmail.com to talk.google.com
[18:47] <camilla> The small mp3 player is always recognized
[18:47] <BluesKaj> ahha
[18:48] <AdamB> Hi, i'm having problems getting the virtualbox kernel module to work, I'm running hardy .
[18:48] <Dr_willis> AdamB,  check #Ubuntu+1 id say..
[18:49] <AdamB> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[18:50] <SatManUK> happy new year all and hears to continued support and exciting developments in 2008 - starting i guess with kde4
[18:50] <SatManUK> thanks for all your support in 2007
[18:51] <AdamB> ok ubuntu+1 seems to be a ghosttown >.>
[18:52] <AdamB> anyone running hardy and got virtualbox to work properly?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AdamB,  best bet would be to check the Hardy forums.
[18:53] <bmack> ok i just installed ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run, and when i try to open "ati catalyst control center" the little loading icons comes up but the options dont
[18:53] <bmack> and when i drag windows its slow
[18:57] <Dr_willis> id check that its actually using the new ati drivers.. You did reboot after installing them? or at least restarted X ?
[18:59] <genii> camilla: //back
[18:59] <genii> bah
[19:00]  * genii checks his caffeine intake
[19:00] <camilla> 20% left of the copying :-)
[19:00] <AdamB_> ok no luck on the forums, so before i post a message on the fourms, i'll explain the exact problem in hope that someone will save me : P
[19:00] <camilla> Ahh coffie I will make some..
[19:01] <genii> camilla: I do not think it matters for finding the UUID if it is copying or not... so it just seems the drive does not have one in this instance
[19:01] <AdamB_> i'm trying to compile the kernel modules for virtualbox as the ones in the repos don't match my current kernel and don't work, when i try to compile them i get up to about 30ish percent then get "run make oldconfig && make prepare on kernel src"
[19:02] <AdamB_> i try that and i just kill my kernel sources and have to reinstall them till they work again
[19:02] <MilitantPotato> Does anyone know why dolphin crashes every time I try to change the View Properties and apply them to all folders?
[19:03] <MilitantPotato> If it doesn't crash, it doesn't remember the change to detailed view in any directory
[19:04] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[19:04] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[19:04] <Dr_willis> :) one of the reasns i chaneged back to Konqueror
[19:04] <MilitantPotato> Ok cool, if it's common I'll go back aswell
[19:04] <camilla> I think I saw it before, let me try aagain
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Dolphin doesn't do much for me either , dunno why , but i can't see any advantages to it
[19:07] <Dr_willis> its Purtier! and more USer Friendly - due to its lack of features!
[19:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:07] <MilitantPotato> Lack of features is an understatement
[19:08] <BluesKaj> hehe :)
[19:08] <bmack> hey Blueskaj i got the fglrx driver installed just now when i scroll long pages its slow and when i drag windows its slow :s
[19:08] <BonesolTeraDyne> MilitantPotato: I'll agree with that.
[19:08] <MilitantPotato> It's like gnome but overdone
[19:08] <Dr_willis> underdone?
[19:08] <MilitantPotato> Way to simple
[19:08]  * Dr_willis is UnderWhelmed
[19:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:08] <Dr_willis> and it has loads of Special Defects
[19:09] <BluesKaj> bmack, did you install the ATI proprietary driver or the default restricted one in system settings ?
[19:09] <bmack> the one from the website
[19:09] <bmack> the installer
[19:09] <MilitantPotato> bmack: pages in firefox?
[19:09] <bmack> yes
[19:09] <MilitantPotato> Yea, that's a feature included in the drivers
[19:10] <BluesKaj> the ATI driver site ?
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> turn off Compiz
[19:10] <bmack> ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run
[19:10] <bmack> how do i turn off compiz
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> Compiz + the ATI drivers from their site makes video output break and firefox cause xorg to use 100% usage and lag.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> bmack,, that driver is prolly exprimental
[19:11] <MilitantPotato> It is and showing it.
[19:11] <bmack> so i should use the one in rescricted drivers
[19:11] <BluesKaj> which grafix card again bmack ?
[19:11] <bmack> when booted back it said the driver was in use
[19:12] <bmack> ati radeon hd 2600
[19:13] <zipper> !themes
[19:13] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:13] <BluesKaj> bmack, you have a more recent and hier end card than i have , but I had nothing but probs with the drivers from the STI site ...so I went with the default restricted one.
[19:13] <bmack> i see
[19:13] <BluesKaj> ATI site
[19:13] <bmack> how can i reinstall all of this
[19:14] <BluesKaj> bmack, hang on for a sec
[19:14] <bmack> well when i installed the default was set to VESA
[19:14] <bmack> you mean that one?
[19:15] <rohan> anyone having problems with frostwire in gutsy? i'm having strange behaviour in the search dialog
[19:15] <rohan> i can't type "Artist" in audio search at all.. pointer automatically goes back to "Title" field
[19:15] <rohan> i don't have compiz installed
[19:15] <BluesKaj> bmack, scroll down til you find the uninstall instructions, https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.40.4-inst.html
[19:16] <bmack> ok
[19:16] <BluesKaj> no bmack , the fglrx driver you installed previously is the one you want
[19:20] <enry> goodbye, happy new year!!
[19:21] <MilitantPotato> Dr_willis: Thanks, I think that fixed my last issue i've had with KDE :
[19:23] <bmack> ok so now just re-enable it in restricted drivers?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> no patience !
[19:41] <bmack> BluesKaj you still here?
[19:42] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840368
[19:42] <bmack> im getting that error at startup
[19:43] <Tommy22> hey guys
[19:43] <bmack> i have to edit xorg.conf and change fglrx back to vesa in order to boot
[19:43] <Tommy22> there was a program to change the resoution of the screen immediatly ... not in the xorg.conf file,  this program allowed me to dynamically change the resolution while working
[19:43] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840372 is a copy of my xorg.conf
[19:43] <Tommy22> does anyone of you know its name?
[19:43] <Tommy22> I can't recall it
[19:44] <ardchoille> Tommy22: xrandr ?
[19:44] <Tommy22> ardchoille, maybe ... lemme search for it in the repos
[19:45] <jussi01> Tommy22: I dont think its in the repos yet.
[19:45] <Tommy22> ardchoille, nope, it's been an other programm,  but xrandr seems to be very interesting,  it could give me a good start in solving the problem
[19:45] <Tommy22> jussi01, it was already installed by default
[19:45] <Tommy22> Question:
[19:46] <jussi01> Tommy22: displayconfig-gtk ?
[19:46] <jussi01> !info displayconfig-gtk
[19:46] <ubotu> displayconfig-gtk: Simple tool to change xserver settings. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.7 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 604 kB
[19:46] <subopt> Where can i find the detailed package listings for Gutsy and Dapper?
[19:46] <ardchoille> Tommy22: Maybe krandtray
[19:46] <Tommy22> what could be the reason, why my screen was able to show  1024x768 when I installed Gutsy Gibbon,  it also worked the following weeks,  and since about 5 days,  I can only show 800x600 ?
[19:46] <jussi01> subopt: archive.ubuntu.com
[19:47] <Tommy22> I already edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to only show 1024x768 but it still comes up with 800x600
[19:47] <Tommy22> ardchoille, thx I will search for krandtray
[19:47] <Tommy22> jussi01, same goes for you,  thank you, I search for it
[19:47] <ardchoille> Tommy22: Sorry, it's krandrtray and you may have it already.
[19:48] <Tommy22> great, thats it
[19:48] <Tommy22> but why doesn't it offer anything higher than 800x600 ?
[19:48] <Tommy22> I realldy do not have any clue
[19:48] <Tommy22> it worked in the past
[19:48] <ardchoille> Tommy22: After editing xorg.conf, did you restart X?
[19:49] <Tommy22> ardchoille, for sure
[19:49] <ardchoille> ok
[19:49] <Tommy22> I did a complete restart of the system
[19:49] <Tommy22> but the problem came BEFORE editing xorg.conf
[19:49] <ardchoille> That'll do it :)
[19:49] <Tommy22> so again:
[19:49] <Tommy22> after installing Gutsy,  1024x768 worked
[19:49] <subopt> jussi01: Does that mean that the package versions are the same across ubuntu7, kubuntu7, xubuntu7, etc?
[19:49] <Tommy22> from one day to the other, I got a resolution of only 800x600
[19:50] <sep1318> subopt: they should be, the repos are the same. the only differences between the three is the default desktop environment
[19:51] <jussi01> subopt: correct - all the packages are available to all of them
[19:51] <subopt> sep1318: thanks
[19:51] <subopt> jussi01: thanks
[19:51] <sep1318> np, subopt
[19:51] <jussi01> subopt: just the package on the disk are different
[19:51] <sep1318> true
[19:51] <ardchoille> subopt: And, are you aware that it's not a good idea to mix packages from different releases (Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, Gutsy, etc)?
[19:53] <lokos> hi
[19:54] <subopt> ardchoille: No, but i'm not trying to do that. Just trying to get the version numbers of all the Python related stuff, so i can know which release of Kubuntu to install. From this discussion it sounds like i can get the Kubuntu version info from the Ubuntu package listings. Do i have that right?
[19:54] <lokos> can some1 help me ?
[19:54] <lokos> ?
[19:55] <sep1318> subopt: what versions are you torn between using?
[19:55] <lokos> i can't create a proper torrent with createtorrent
[19:55] <lokos> it says "it's not a bencoded file"
[19:56] <zipper> Whats the easiest way to change the looks of default kde?
[19:56] <martijn81> lokos: use KTorrent then
[19:56] <lokos> ktorrent is gui :/
[19:56] <martijn81> zipper: by going into kcontrol
[19:56] <martijn81> lokos: i know, hehe
[19:57] <subopt> I'm leaning towards v7 of Kubuntu. It looks like it comes default w/Python2.5, and has PyQt4, too. I'd like to stick w/straight Debian, but i can't get any of the Python add-ons to install to Python2.5; they all compile/configure to Edge's default (Python2.4).
[19:57] <logd> hi could some1 help me setting up a wifi ad-hoc connection betwen  pcs ?
[19:58] <jussi01> subopt: 7.? there is 7.04 feisty fawn and 7.10 gutsy gibbon
[19:58] <subopt> jussi01: Guess i meant gibbon. Heron's the bleeding edge, right?
[19:59] <sep1318> subopt: yeah. gutsy has python 2.5.1 (i just checked)
[19:59] <sep1318> and a lot of addons you can install. bindings for stuff, etc in the repos
[19:59] <subopt> sep1318: Guess i'll go w/that, unless i can figure out how to fix Debian/Edge.
[19:59] <zipper> martijn81, ...and?
[20:00] <zipper> martijn81, i know i need to install a package to get themes, but cant remember which one =/
[20:00] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im trying to view the following page http://www.wkyc.com/video/weather/live/local_radar.aspx
[20:00] <W8TAH> its aksing for a plugin x-mplayer2
[20:00] <W8TAH> but i tired sudo apt-get install x-mplayer2 and it said it dont know what that is
[20:00] <ardchoille> zipper: kdeartwork is a package with a lot of themes. Also you can search the repos for specific themes.
[20:01] <W8TAH> im in firefox
[20:02] <ardchoille> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[20:02] <W8TAH> ardchoille: thank you -- happy new year
[20:03] <zipper> ardchoille, ah, thanks
[20:03] <ardchoille> W8TAH: yw
[20:03] <ardchoille> zipper: yw
[20:11] <W8TAH> !jre
[20:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:11] <jpatrick> anyone know why irssi gives me this for certain channels? even ones I join: http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=we10cz2.png ?
[20:12] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I use irssi, what are you referring to? The numbers (Act:blah) at the bottom?
[20:12] <zipper> Trying to install a theme, getting this error: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" - What package could i be missing?
[20:13] <jpatrick> ardchoille: the blank channel window
[20:13] <marcondes> mdmd
[20:14] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Not sure. Is this a new theme?
[20:15] <jpatrick> ardchoille: it's the mithru theme, but even /join brings up blanks, or just opens and then closes
[20:16] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Oh, wow, not sure. Perhaps the good folks in #irssi can help ?
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: don't think I can even join there
[20:17] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, so which client are you using now ?
[20:17] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Did this happen after switching themes?
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: yep, failed, just opened window and closed
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: happened since I added more channels to autojoin
[20:18] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: irssi
[20:18] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: just autojoining works for some
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, gonna try it
[20:19] <jpatrick> ardchoille: I going to rm my config and try again
[20:19] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Don't rm it, just rename it in case you need it later
[20:20] <jpatrick> hmm, too late
[20:20] <jpatrick> not ;)
[20:20] <jpatrick> brb
[20:23] <patrick__> ardchoille: hmm, same, even with default
[20:23] <Tomasu[BAF]> does anyone know how to set the "bit rate" via knetworkmanager? it seems to always set 24Mb when both the adapter and ap can and will do 54Mb
[20:23] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I've never seen that before
[20:34] <jpatrick_> ardchoille: we've got it: Cannot join to channel #xubuntu-es (You have joined to too many channels)
[20:34] <ardchoille> jpatrick_: aha
[20:35] <jpatrick_> pity
[20:35] <ardchoille> jpatrick_: Glad you got it sorted.
[20:35] <jpatrick_> ardchoille: kinda, I need those channels ;;)
[20:40] <kubuntunewbie> !info telnet
[20:40] <ubotu> telnet: The telnet client. In component main, is standard. Version 0.17-35ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 184 kB
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> whats the name of kubuntu's built in telnet client?
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> i wanna get up on it
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> telnet rulez
[20:42] <genii> I'm pretty sure the bot just told you the name is "telnet"
[20:42] <Yorokobi> kubuntunewbie, um ... telnet at the command prompt courtesy of Konsole.
[20:42] <kubuntunewbie> yes, it did but i dont know where to find it or how to load it because im dumb/new
[20:43] <Schuenemann> just type telnet at konsole
[20:43] <kubuntunewbie> ohhh, thats easy.
[20:43] <kubuntunewbie> thanks
[20:52] <Voyage_>  how do i configure gallery2 with fastcgi is there a howto
[20:53] <BluesKaj> ok, back ...no more snow for a while, i hope
[20:54] <girolamo> !italiano
[20:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:54] <kubuntunewbie> u sniffin that powda
[20:54] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, wanna come and shovel the snow off my driveway? I think there's only 1.5cm of ice to chip through :)
[20:56]  * Dr_willis wakes up
[20:57] <Dr_willis> 1.5cm! thats like... err...  10 Ft!
[20:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:57]  * Dr_willis moved the decimal point too far.
[20:57] <Yorokobi> yep
[21:01] <girolamo> buon anno a tutti
[21:08] <Yorokobi> c
[21:10] <NickPresta> Where would be the best place to report a problem with a package (missing dependency)? Should I file a bug in LP or should I ask in #MOTU?
[21:10] <bmack> hey BluesKaj im still haveing trouble installing the ati accel. driver in restricted drivers at boot i get this error http://www.pastebin.ca/840368
[21:11] <yuriy> NickPresta: first file a bug in LP
[21:11] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840372 is my xorg.conf
[21:13] <NickPresta> yuriy, well, I'm not even sure it's a bug. Perhaps I'm missing something. I installed xcdroast (sudo apt-get install xcdroast). It wanted to install `cdda2wav` and `xcdroast`. Okay, did that. I start up xcdroast and I get an error about missing `icedax` and some missing libraries. I had to install icedax to fix it. Shouldn't icedax be a dependency of xcdroast?
[21:14] <yuriy> probably
[21:14] <yuriy> you could ask in MOTU as well i guess
[21:14] <NickPresta> okay
[21:16] <Voyage_> iam the only user on ubuntu. am i the root?
[21:16] <bmack> how do i run .deb files
[21:17] <aske> bmack » with "dpkg -I *.deb" command
[21:17] <bmack> ok
[21:17] <aske> dpkg -i *.deb
[21:22] <BluesKaj> bmack, try this tutorial ,use "Method 1"..it should solve your driver install prob
[21:22] <BluesKaj> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/110698-ati-video-card-install-guide.html
[21:22] <bmack> ok
[21:26] <kirk> hey ppl
[21:28] <kirk> anyone here?
[21:29] <jussi01> yep
[21:29] <kirk> maybe i could get some advice...
[21:29] <kirk> i upgraded to 7.10, and now no kind of videos will play
[21:30] <kirk> well they play, the sound is fine, but the picture is scrambled
[21:30] <jussi01> kirk: hmmm, are you using compiz/beryl
[21:30] <jussi01> ?
[21:30] <kirk> no, fresh install
[21:30] <Dr_willis> Ive seen some issues on that with nvidia cards.
[21:30] <jussi01> kirk: video card?
[21:31] <kirk> same system i was using before, no changes were made, i just upgraded
[21:31] <kirk> i dont know what kind of video card is in there
[21:31] <kirk> but its the same one that played everything before
[21:32] <Dr_willis> well if its an ati or nvidia card - you proberly should install the proper ati, or nvidia drivers..
[21:32] <Dr_willis> the output of 'lspci' shoud give some clues on what video card it has.
[21:33] <mahasamoot> the run command dialog stinks, is there some way to make it more like a terminal?
[21:33] <Dr_willis> why not use a terminal?
[21:33] <kirk_> i have no idea how to install the proper drivers
[21:33] <Dr_willis> like YaKuake (i think)
[21:33] <Dr_willis> !find yakuake
[21:33] <ubotu> Found: yakuake
[21:34] <ardchoille> kirk_: Find out what kind of video card it is and then visit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:34] <Dr_willis> kirk,  well you need to figure out what card ya got first..  You could just run that restricted-manager tool (i forget where its at in the menus) it may tell you and auto0get the drivers
[21:34] <ardchoille> yakuake is nice
[21:34] <kirk_> how do u see what kind of video card u have
[21:34] <BluesKaj> kirk_,check for video card, in the konsole : lspci | grep video
[21:35] <kirk_> ty
[21:35] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: I do, but some times I want to run a command and have it go away again... I guess you're right yahuake, might be the best way
[21:35] <kirk_> that command had no output
[21:35] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  i think theres a command line applet or 2 you can put in the panel also
[21:35] <ardchoille> kirk_: lspci | grep VGA
[21:36] <nilom> hola
[21:36] <nilom> c'è qualcuno?
[21:36] <nilom> salve a tutti!!!
[21:36] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: that sounds perfect
[21:36] <jussi01> !es | nilom
[21:36] <ubotu> nilom: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:36] <kirk_> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[21:36] <ardchoille> !it
[21:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:36] <nilom> ah ok
[21:36] <nilom> it's ok
[21:36] <ardchoille> !ati | kirk_
[21:36] <ubotu> kirk_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:37] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: what's the best way to find pannel applets?
[21:37] <jussi01> mahasamoot: why not just run the command with a trailing & ?
[21:37] <nilom> there is some people that can help me????
[21:37] <ardchoille> nilom: Help with what?
[21:37] <nilom> i have the problem with my wi fi
[21:37] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  fire up the package manager and search. :) a lot are allready isntalled.
[21:37] <nilom> a*
[21:38] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  right click on the panel, add applet...
[21:38] <mahasamoot> jussi01: sometimes they give a constent stream of data to the terminal, that I don't want
[21:38] <ardchoille> !wifi | nilom
[21:38] <ubotu> nilom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:38] <jussi01> mahasamoot: try running a progeam with a trailing "&"
[21:38]  * BluesKaj edits the video texr commands 
[21:38] <jussi01> ie. konqueror &
[21:39] <nilom> but...no i have to load the wpa_supplicant but i dont know how!!!!
[21:39] <mahasamoot> jussi01: yes, that's a good tip, thanks... but some programs still send a consant stream of messages making the terminal unusable after that
[21:40] <jussi01> mahasamoot: it shouldnt. it should just run in the background then
[21:40] <Dr_willis> it depends on the program
[21:41] <Dr_willis> and if its using stdout, or stderr, and other things
[21:41] <ardchoille> jussi01: Try kmail &
[21:41] <Dr_willis> and yes. with the right options/piping you can send all output to Null. :)
[21:41] <jussi01> hmmm
[21:42] <jussi01> My apologies, that will keep it running after closing the terminal.
[21:42] <mahasamoot> azureus & > /dev/null
[21:43] <mahasamoot> ?
[21:44] <Dr_willis> try it and see
[21:45] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: good point :-)
[21:46] <kirk_> arrggg.
[21:46] <kirk_> okay, my video card is VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[21:46] <kirk_> how would one go about getting videos to play?
[21:47] <Dr_willis> You proberly should install the fglrx drivers, Its possible its a dri issue makeing them not play properly
[21:47] <Dr_willis> I have a x200m in my laptop. it works. :)
[21:48] <kirk_> lol... english please
[21:48] <kirk_> flgrx drivers
[21:48] <kirk_> lost me
[21:49] <MilitantPotato> kirk enable restricted drivers yet?
[21:49] <nuxil> o.0
[21:49] <kirk_> no...
[21:49] <MilitantPotato> it's in K menu>System Settings, advanced tab
[21:50] <kirk_> betcha thats it
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> no idea, but that's one way to go about installing ATI's drivers (fglrx)
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> I'd check to make sure your video card is supported
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> !ati
[21:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:51] <kirk_> video card worked perfect on 7.04
[21:51] <kirk_> enabled ati driver in restricted driver list, brb needs restart
[21:51] <kirk_> thanks
[21:52] <MilitantPotato> gl
[21:57] <Novell> how do I rebuild the kubuntu kernel properly ? I've tried getting the linux-source but couldn't get it compiled like the stock one from packages
[22:00] <Schuenemann> I have wine 0.9.33 and I see there is 0.9.41 available. Shouldn't it warn me about the update?
[22:01] <BluesKaj_> the update is ok , but it seems abit buggy ...having a few more crashes than usual on some apps on wine
[22:01] <matthew> What package contains aclocal ?
[22:01] <matthew> Is there a way to find out?
[22:01] <matthew> I need to know what to install to get it.
[22:02] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj_, I haven't seen any update for a while
[22:02] <Sanne> matthew: on packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search the contents of packages"
[22:02] <MilitantPotato> !info aclocal
[22:02] <ubotu> Package aclocal does not exist in gutsy
[22:02] <Sanne> matthew: you can search for files and will get the packages that provide it
[22:03] <MilitantPotato> hmm
[22:04] <MilitantPotato> I'm on wine 9.52
[22:04] <Sanne> matthew: but it seems there's no aclocal on *ubuntu, it might be specific to another distro. What is it supposed to do?
[22:05] <MilitantPotato> http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/aclocal.1.html
[22:07] <combinio> i've just reinstall my kub-7.04 and can't install Flashplugin-nonfree cuz "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" :/
[22:07] <Sanne> ahh! matthew, you need autoconf. You seem to want to compile something. So you need also build-essential, might also pull in autoconf.
[22:07] <combinio> can someone help, pls ? :}
[22:09] <Perseid> Hi all. I'm trying to get the NVIdia drivers installed on gutsy but I don't see te new Restricted Drivers Manager.
[22:09] <Tm_T> !nvidia | Perseid
[22:09] <ubotu> Perseid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:09] <combinio> ** i formatted only "/" partiotion. "/home" has NOT been touched
[22:10] <Tm_T> !flash | combinio
[22:10] <ubotu> combinio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:10] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:11] <Schuenemann> !gnash
[22:11] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[22:11] <combinio> Tm_T: ok, will try that now...
[22:11] <Tm_T> combinio: see both messages
[22:11] <slow-motion> schon mal guten rutsch und frohes neues jahr
[22:11] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: Gnash is <3
[22:11] <combinio> Tm_T: in second message all is explained - thanks Tm_T :))
[22:11] <Schuenemann> what does <3 mean?
[22:12] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: it's a heart
[22:12] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, and what do you mean it's a heart?
[22:12] <BluesKaj> combinio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397...this might work
[22:13] <combinio> BluesKaj: yeap, ubotu also showed me that way. hope it will be usefull ;P
[22:13] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: I sorta like/love it
[22:14] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, ahh... how is its development?
[22:14] <Schuenemann> I mean the progress
[22:14] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: no idea, I like it, because I don't have to see any flash, I'm happy
[22:14] <Schuenemann> hah
[22:15] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: "For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/"
[22:15] <matthew> Sanne: ok.. installed build-essential, but aclocal is still not there that i can see..
[22:16] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, I'd rather hear it from a user
[22:16] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: well don't listen to me then
[22:16] <Schuenemann> I won't
[22:17] <Sanne> matthew: then you would also need package automake
[22:18] <Sanne> matthew: what do you want to compile, btw?
[22:18] <matthew> Sanne: yes.. finally.. thanks!
[22:19] <matthew> Sanne: It's the Glest source from svn.. on sourceforge
[22:19] <Sanne> matthew: you're welcome
[22:19] <matthew> Sanne: This is a game that there really should be a package for.. it's owesome.
[22:19] <Sanne> matthew: ok, just making sure you don't compile something that can be installed via a package
[22:19]  * Sanne goes looking
[22:20] <jussi01> !find glest
[22:20] <ubotu> Package/file glest does not exist in gutsy
[22:20] <jussi01> well then...
[22:20] <Schuenemann> something that requires code compiling can't be good
[22:20] <Schuenemann> it's evil
[22:21] <combinio> how can i check what crashes my *.deb auto instalation ? it looks it doesn't work. everytime when i'm trying to install *.deb package it crashes ://
[22:22] <Sanne> matthew: looks very nice, good luck with compiling
[22:22] <combinio> ater INSTALL PACKAGE command the window just disappear after second and nothing happened ?!
[22:22] <combinio> can't install anything ?! :///
[22:23] <nuxil> open a terminal
[22:23] <Schuenemann> matthew, it's beautiful
[22:23] <nuxil> type dpkg --configure -a
[22:23] <combinio> nuxil: done
[22:24] <nuxil> combinio, you know that *.deb means all files right?
[22:24] <combinio> nuxil: hhmm... let's see was it helpful :P
[22:24] <combinio> nuxil: yeap i know - i mean ALL files :(
[22:24] <combinio> since 2 weeks coudn't install ANYTHIN' :/
[22:25] <Athena> hi
[22:25] <combinio> hello :)
[22:25] <Athena> Anyone here good with printers...or have an idea where I can get help with one?
[22:25] <nuxil> combinio, did it do anything after that command?`or did it just return to the prompt?
[22:25] <combinio> did NOTHING (?) :)
[22:26] <combinio> crap! didn't work that command :/
[22:26] <combinio> still same bug :[
[22:26] <nuxil> then try to force install the deb files
[22:26] <combinio> nuxil: sounds good but how to ? ;P
[22:26] <nuxil> its not recomended to do tho..
[22:26] <Athena> I picked up an HP printer on boxing day...i figured with HP is should be compatible...but it won't print linux stuff (except once, not sure what i did...but i know it can do it)
[22:27] <nuxil> combinio, man dpkg :p
[22:27] <combinio> nuxil: it looks i have no choice. special for that i've just reinstalled my system but it didn't help so i'm desperate now :{
[22:28] <Athena> what is the problem combino?
[22:28] <combinio> nuxil: and there is no some shorter way to execute than reading ALL that manual ? ;]
[22:28] <nuxil> heh
[22:28] <combinio> Athena: my dpkg manager is crashed. can't install *.deb packages at all :/
[22:28] <combinio> nuxil: u know, some simple command as noobs love so :P
[22:29] <nuxil> combinio,  what does this tell you?
[22:29] <nuxil> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[22:29] <Athena> ok i'm new to Kubuntu...(but i did use ubuntu and more recently mepis)...have you tried adding a synaptic manager instead of adept
[22:29] <Athena> or something that would get you there (i hate adept)
[22:30] <combinio> nuxil: it tells nothing. 0 at all nothing happened [?] :/
[22:30] <Thecks> I can't seem to get Flash working with Opera:o
[22:30] <Athena> hmm try going to swiftfox and using there auto installer, it might tell you if you can actually put something on, as it does this automatically
[22:30] <combinio> Athena: no i haven't :D
[22:30] <combinio> Athena: but i will try if nothing's gonna help me with that :///
[22:30] <nuxil> combinio, ok try apt-get update
[22:31] <nuxil> combinio, dpkg --force-help
[22:31] <Sanne> combinio: often, terminal commands don't tell anything when they execute successfully.
[22:31] <Athena> combino: how do i open a line with you?
[22:31] <combinio> what line u mean ? :D
[22:31] <jussi01> !pm | Athena
[22:31] <ubotu> Athena: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[22:31] <Athena> I'm not familiar with IRC...your red comments are just to me yes?
[22:31] <combinio> nuxil: oho! found something interestin :D
[22:31] <combinio> Athena: yes :P
[22:32] <Athena> ubotu, thanks i'm new and still learning
[22:32] <jussi01> !bot | Athena
[22:32] <ubotu> Athena: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:32] <combinio> Athena: if u want write something to me write my nick in message ;P
[22:32] <Athena> ok combino can you use a browser
[22:32] <combinio> ubotu i only a bot ;P hehe :D
[22:32] <Athena> yah she told me
[22:32] <Athena> or he
[22:32] <jussi01> it
[22:32] <combinio> Athena: ok ;P
[22:33] <nuxil> Sanne, actualy $? usaly returns if commands are sucsessfuly
[22:33] <jussi01> !tab | Athena
[22:33] <Athena> go to google and put in swiftfox ( this could be a waste of time, but i think it will help, maybe)
[22:33] <ubotu> Athena: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:33] <Athena> ! tab means what?
[22:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab means what? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:33] <Sanne> nuxil: yes, the command should return to the prompt, but it need not say that all is well :)
[22:33] <combinio> nuxil: except few ERRORS after apt-get update there are also few Public Keys which are missing :))
[22:33] <nuxil> Sanne, true
[22:34] <nuxil> combinio, paste the errors to psatebin.ca
[22:34] <Athena> oh so google.com
[22:34] <nuxil> *pastebin.ca
[22:34] <Athena> oh so tab:google.com
[22:34] <combinio> nuxil: doind that :)
[22:34] <Athena> as an aside...sounds like you are stuck in dependency hell...i was there once
[22:35] <matthew> What package contains the x libraries and headers?  I don't see it in adept, using "xlib"
[22:35] <Athena> and have a printer that won't work (GRR)
[22:35] <jussi01> Athena: which model?
[22:36] <Athena> It's an HP...go figure i thought that would make it not so hard. It's an LaswerJet 1100A...which is an older buisness model i think...it will also scan, but i just want it to print right now
[22:36] <Athena> heh combino...humour me try swiftfox...if it will install your apt is working somewhat
[22:37] <Athena> (the auto installer uses it)
[22:37] <Schuenemann> swiftfox is urban legend
[22:37] <Athena> i use it all the time!
[22:37] <jussi01> Athena: have you looked at: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-1100
[22:37] <biovore> kinda like duke nukem forever
[22:38] <Athena> my printer shows up...but nothing will print using the suggested drivers...although it printed one page from my computer once, and sometimes you can see that it's talking
[22:38] <Athena> the installer uses apt...so if you can use the installer included some of your apt is working
[22:38] <Athena> (and it might fix part of the apt i have no idea...if you hate it uninstall it after)
[22:38] <combinio> !pastebin
[22:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:39] <Athena> should i be pastebinning? (sorry very new to IRC)
[22:39] <Athena> ;-)
[22:39] <jussi01> Athena: only if you have 3 lines or more to paste
[22:40] <combinio> nuxil: hope you're gonna know what's going on. i was trying to translate a little (i use polish language ;P) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50323/
[22:40] <Athena> jussi01: frustrating when you have an idea, but it's ignored
[22:41] <Athena> oops sorry
[22:41] <combinio> anyway - why don't u spend Sylvester time somewhere else ? in some more friendly place ?? :}
 is this how you talk to one person?
[22:41] <jussi01> combinio: looks like you are getting some 404's from medibuntu.
[22:41] <combinio> ( i didn't mean that this place is not friendly but, u know ;P )
[22:42] <combinio> Athena: to everyone ;P
[22:42] <combinio> jussi01: what does it mean to my problem ? :D
[22:42] <nuxil> combinio, you beed updating the gpg keys..
[22:42] <combinio> jussi01: cuz it saying to me nothing ;P
[22:42] <jussi01> Athena: no, try typing the first few letters of jussi01 ie. juss then press tab
[22:42] <Athena> jussi01: is this it
[22:42] <combinio> nuxil: so now i'm gonna update those public keys
[22:42] <nuxil> combinio, remove the 3 last lines from you /etc/apt/source.list
[22:42] <jussi01> combinio: remove the medibuntu lines from your sources
[22:42] <Athena> medibuntu can be finicky
[22:43] <jussi01> Athena: correct.  that shows everyone you are talking to me
[22:43] <nuxil> combinio, go to the site you found thouse links from
[22:43] <combinio> jussi01 & nuxil - doing that....
[22:43] <jussi01> Athena: also, it you type: /msg jussi01 then you will get a private message to me.
[22:43] <Athena> just to ask...why does Kubuntu use Adept... (i moved here because I thought maybe it would get my printer working...Mepis uses synaptic)
[22:44] <jussi01> Athena: but you must be registered for that
[22:44] <combinio> nuxil: last three positions have been deleted :))
[22:44] <combinio> nuxil: now update the public keys ? ;>
[22:44] <nuxil> combinio, To be sure your doing things right.. past you source.list here
[22:44] <nuxil> erm
[22:44] <nuxil> on pastebin
[22:44] <nuxil> :p
[22:44] <Athena> did you install from both adept and synaptic...that could have caused your problem combinio (i did that once...big problems)
[22:44] <jussi01> !register > Athena
[22:45] <combinio> Athena: think NOT. i have only Adept. no Synaptic here ;P
[22:45] <starscreamd> Is it possible to restore group policies on Kubunt? I knda borked mine... :\
[22:45] <kenny> anyone know of a way round the dreaded No GLXFBConfig for depth 32 in comiz using nvidia driver?
[22:45] <combinio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50324/ << my sources.list
[22:45] <jussi01> kenny: set depth 24?
[22:45] <combinio> be back in 30 seconds ;P
[22:46] <kenny> jussi01: done it :) and all the Option stuff in xorg :(
[22:46] <Athena> combino...could you download synaptic...it might be a way to fix the problem
[22:46] <jussi01> combinio: go to adept -> manage repositories -> thrird party -> remove any medibuntu stuff
[22:46] <Athena> (it could make it worse i guess but it already sounds bad)
[22:47] <Athena> (it is possible to do this KDE...that's how i know it can cause problems...
[22:47] <jussi01> Athena: adept is in there as it is qt. synaptic is gtk. they both do the same thing
[22:47] <combinio> jussi01: i thought that i've already deleted mediubuntu stuff from sources.list ;P
[22:47] <jussi01> combinio: then sudo apt-get update and try what ever you were tryng again
[22:48] <Athena> yes, but synaptic offers way more programs...more choice, and sometimes a better idea of what you could be missing
[22:48] <combinio> Athena: i'll do it if no other ways help
[22:48] <jussi01> Athena: no, thats incorrect
[22:48] <Athena> oh ok juss maybe i never got adept working right
[22:48] <Athena> lol
[22:49] <starscreamd> Adept works as well as S/Kynaptic for me..
[22:49] <combinio> nuxil: now it shows there are two public keys missing ://
[22:49] <jussi01> adept offers exactly the same programs as synaptic, my guess is you are talking about the add/remove programs dialouge
[22:49] <combinio> nuxil: add them ?
[22:49] <Athena> so anyone know how to get a printer to work...when it won't work with the standard, made for the printer drivers?
[22:49] <Athena> juss, Yes i think so
[22:49] <Dr_willis> Athena,  you expecing a macigal wand? :)
[22:49] <Dr_willis> Athena,  what kind of printer?
[22:49] <Athena> no, just some ideas...i've run out of them
[22:50] <Athena> after more than a few hours
[22:50] <Dr_willis> If you say canon - im going to scream
[22:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: have you tried setting it up through the web interface - sometimes that works a little better
[22:50] <nuxil> combinio, yes add them if you know them.. i dnont know them
[22:50] <Athena> HP Laserjet 1100A
[22:50] <Dr_willis> Athena,  connected by usb? or parallel?
[22:50] <Athena> You mean go to the HP site? It sends me to a sourceforge site, and that didn't help
[22:50] <Athena> parallel
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: localhost:631
[22:50] <Athena> ?
[22:50] <combinio> nuxil: i'm gonna risk ;P hope that nothing bad is gonna happen if i don't know them ^^'
[22:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: go to that address
[22:51] <Athena> just type that in, in a browser or here?
[22:51] <jussi01> in a browser
[22:51] <ardchoille> combinio: The medibuntu entry in your sources list is incorrect
[22:51] <Dr_willis> ive found the gnome cups admin tool a little easier touse then the kde one.  CUPS has its web interface on the http://localhost:631  address
[22:51] <Dr_willis> makes it rather easy to use.
[22:51] <nuxil> combinio, not likely.. didnt look like standar repos
[22:51] <combinio> ardchoille: wait... check that out...
[22:51] <combinio> nuxil: so where they come from!? :} i copied that from some forum ;P
[22:52] <nuxil> aha
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: The proper entry is:  deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[22:52] <nuxil> combinio,  go to that forum,.. its probealy a link to ther to the key
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: And you need to add the medibuntu key before using the repo
[22:52] <Athena> giving the spot you gave me a try...looks like it might make better sense than the page HP suggested!
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[22:53] <nuxil> combinio, you can safly remove thouse repos you added
[22:53] <combinio> wait ardchoille! u'r talking to noob! :P i'm on that site and can see those key ... how to add them ? :)
[22:53] <starscreamd> Can someone please help me with properly configuring my group policies?
[22:53] <combinio> ardchoille: ok :)
[22:53] <Athena> combino: it will tell you what programs won't work if you uninstall...they are likely programs you don't need
[22:54] <combinio> nuxil: delete them ? ;]
[22:54] <combinio> ardchoille: keys added :: OK :)
[22:54] <combinio> nuxil: so where can i get from new repos ??
[22:54] <ardchoille> combinio: Ok, do you have the proper medibuntu entry in sources.list?
[22:54] <Athena> ok the web page says Device URI
[22:54] <combinio> ardchoille: checking out....
[22:55] <ardchoille> combinio:  deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[22:55] <Athena> do i need to check that on my computer?
[22:55] <Dr_willis> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1100  has some drivers listing of drivers to try with it
[22:55] <combinio> ardchoille: as i can see only this :: "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ gutsy free"
[22:56] <ardchoille> combinio: That is incorrect and needs to be removed
[22:56] <sigma_123> happy new year all (south africa)
[22:56] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | combinio
[22:56] <ubotu> combinio: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:56] <combinio> ardchoille: so removed that already
[22:57] <combinio> >>> HAAAAPPY NEW YEAR (Poland :D)
[22:57] <combinio> ardchoille: can u wait a sec. want to watch the fireshow ;P
[22:57] <combinio> oho ! :D:D here it comes ;P
[22:58] <ardchoille> combinio: There is a webpage that fully explains how to add the medibuntu repo properly: http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:58] <sigma_123> ok i was one hour late!
[22:59] <combinio> :D:D
[22:59] <Athena> The cups people are asking for a password...
[22:59] <Athena> MINE doesn't work
[22:59] <Dr_willis> Athena,  You mean the cups web interface. :) Hmm.. i thought they fixed that ... bug
[22:59] <Dr_willis> I rember ages ago i had to set a root password for it to take.
[23:00] <Gunirus> Happy New Year
[23:00] <starscreamd> Should I just reinstall Kubuntu gutsy to fix this issue? all i did was try to add a value to the groups and ive had all kinds of probs since..
[23:00] <starscreamd> no sound, sudo not taking passwrod etc
[23:00] <nuxil> Yea Happy new Year all
[23:00] <Athena> my problem isn't identifying the printer...it just won't accept the drivers suggested (except once...no idea how and accidentally erased the printer entry)
[23:01] <Dr_willis> Athena,  what im reading says it should use the hplip drivers/tools . which i think is a extra package.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> !find hplip
[23:01] <ubotu> Found: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hplip-gui (and 1 others)
[23:01] <Dr_willis> try installing those. perhaps.
[23:01] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I thought the hplip stuff was installed by default
[23:01] <Athena> i got through the suggestions of the CUPS page (same thing i've done before. I got this as a result when i went for a test page
[23:02] <Athena> An error occurred while loading http://localhost:631/printers/Laser?op=print-test-page:
[23:02] <Athena> Connection to host localhost is broken.
[23:02] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  no idea. Ir ecall intalling it befor for my older hp-scanner-printer
[23:02] <Athena> so did i
[23:02] <Dr_willis> !info hplip
[23:02] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 688 kB
[23:02] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Ah, ok
[23:02] <Dr_willis> Says its optional. :)
[23:02] <Athena> so i need to install it?
[23:02] <W8TAH>  hi folks -- im wanting to view this link mms://a293.l2717654292.c27176.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/293/27176/v0001/reflector:54292  firefox tells me it does not know how to handle the link -- what do i need to install????
[23:02] <combinio> what the hell that means?! sudo: "timestamp too far in the future: Dec 31 23:26:52 2007"
[23:02] <Dr_willis> combinio,  your date when the file was made was wrong, or its wrong now
[23:02] <combinio> i see :)
[23:03] <starscreamd> W8TAH: helluva line here, ive been here awhile now, over 15 mins no response
[23:03] <Athena> so what do i ask adept to install (so i get this right)
[23:03] <Dr_willis> !info hplip
[23:03] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 688 kB
[23:03] <Dr_willis>  hplip  is the package name
[23:03] <Dr_willis> !find hplip
[23:03] <W8TAH> starscreamd: ok -- whats ur ?? i may be able to help
[23:03] <ubotu> Found: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hplip-gui (and 1 others)
[23:03] <Athena> (i tried updating the hplip on another operating system...didn't work well, but i tried through apt
[23:03] <Dr_willis> You may want to install those other files as well. the doc. and gui.
[23:04] <Athena> it says it is already installed
[23:04] <Athena> it won't show anything for a GUI request
[23:04] <Athena> (do i need to add a repository?)
[23:04] <starscreamd> W8TAH: I tried adding a value to groups, and my sound isn't working. I had to manually edit... sudo visudo to add my username to the bottom of that fiel.. ick :P i just wanna restre my group settings
[23:05] <W8TAH> eeek - -not sure on that
[23:05] <Dr_willis> Athena,  they are all in main --> "In component main, is optional"
[23:05] <Dr_willis> so they are in the main repo
[23:05] <W8TAH> might ask in #ubuntu may be less line as it is not kubuntu specific
[23:07] <Athena> ok all sorts of new stuff being added, as i told it to allow a Gnome commercial product that looks like it could run a printer
[23:07] <secleinteer> hi, i'm not getting the info pane that's in the bottom half of the ktorrent window (as in http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ). i'm using the default ktorrent install. anyone know how to enable it?
[23:07] <Dr_willis> Athena,  this is a printer scanner combo?
[23:07] <Athena> i'm not much familiar with know
[23:07] <Athena> yes it is
[23:07] <Athena> gnome
[23:07] <Athena> i don't care if the scanner works or not
[23:08] <Dr_willis> I think theres a hpoj service that also needs to be in stalled and running
[23:08] <Dr_willis> !find hpoj
[23:08] <ubotu> Found: hpoj, hpoj-xojpanel
[23:08] <Dr_willis> !info hpoj
[23:08] <ubotu> hpoj: HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91-12build1 (gutsy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[23:08] <unix_lappy> man do i hate public WAP
[23:08] <Dr_willis> I had to install that for my combo printer also.
[23:08] <Athena> yes but hpoj is incompatible with hplip
[23:08] <unix_lappy> windows probes all other clients all the time pointlessly.
[23:09] <Athena> hmm...i'll wait and see what the download does
[23:09] <unix_lappy> and you cant tell the difference b/w a probe and a scan.
[23:09] <Athena> (they were incompatible on my old system)
[23:09] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[23:09] <Minataku> Dr_willis: What's up?
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  got my *@*@&!@&@ company BACK again
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Athena,  well one site says use the ljet4 driver. for that printer.
[23:10] <Minataku> What?!
[23:10] <Dr_willis> i think my googling is finding a lot of old er threads.
[23:10] <unix_lappy> got your company back?
[23:10] <Minataku> Kick those slackers out!
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  they came back for Xmas.. and then its one disaster after another with then
[23:10] <Dr_willis> unix_lappy,  company as in 'relatives visiting' :)
[23:11] <combinio> what is the command to install DEB package in console ?
[23:11] <Athena> so my system is now downloading gnome files <sigh> but if it works ok
[23:11] <Athena> yes but the ljet doesn't work
[23:11] <Athena> i've tried it
[23:11] <ardchoille> combinio: What are you installing? Have you checked the repos first?
[23:12] <Athena> the best success i've had is to boot the machine with the printer unattached, and it guesses i might have a cannon or a lexmark, then connect the machine...some combo of that got my one printed page
[23:12] <combinio> ardchoille: no! i just want that command to check out WHAT THE HELL crashes my *.deb packages installation
[23:12] <Dr_willis> Athena,  some of the sites i see say it started working after they installed hopj, others say they used ljet4. others say it never worked... :)
[23:12] <combinio> ardchoille: cuz i can't install ANY *.deb packages! dpkg crashes! :{{{
[23:13] <Minataku> Ugh. GNOME.
[23:13] <Athena> i had problems the first time i installed a printer...so i think it is likely the software not the printer...i have someone looking into getting me a ripped version of XP just in case, so i can make sure it works before the warranty (short) ends...but i hate Windows
[23:13] <combinio> ardchoille: so, can u give me that command pls? if u know of course :P
[23:13] <Minataku> Heh
[23:14] <Athena> Oh gees so one system never seems to work
[23:14] <ardchoille> combinio: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[23:14] <combinio> ardchoille: thanks :))
[23:14] <Minataku> I read that 80% of computer users have 2 or more problems with their computers every month
[23:14] <Athena> all types of operating systems?
[23:14] <Minataku> Which means that some of those Windows users refused to admit it
[23:15] <Schuenemann> Minataku, computers have problems with their computers? What is that?
[23:15] <Dr_willis> Athena,  im not actually clear on what the problem is.. You run the printer config tool. it sees the printer. you then select a driver.. but they dont seem to work?
[23:15] <Athena> yes
[23:15] <Minataku> Mac users only occasionally have problems with their "computers" because their computers don't actually do anything in the first place
[23:15] <Schuenemann> Minataku, oops, users, sorry. 80% ?
[23:15] <Athena> but the machine does sometimes flash...it is getting some info...and as i said it did print one test page correctly
[23:15] <combinio> WHAT THE?!?! i install *.deb package in console (not in that window manager) and it looks it works!? no errors?! :}
[23:15] <Minataku> And the rest are happy Linux/BSD/Solaris users
[23:15] <ardchoille> !ot | Minataku
[23:15] <ubotu> Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:15] <Athena> now my machine is saying it doesn't have CUPS installed!
[23:15] <Athena> (it had it before)
[23:16] <Dr_willis> Athena,  Hmmm.....
[23:16] <downix> Minataku: Amiga ftw!  8)
[23:16] <Minataku> downix: Heehee
[23:16] <Minataku> Speaking of Amigas, Dr_willis
[23:16] <Minataku> lol
[23:16] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know how full the garrage is now...
[23:16] <Dr_willis> Its gotten worse in the last 2 weeks.
[23:16] <Athena> should i just go to adept and try getting it again (likely gnome printer stuff took it off)
[23:16] <Dr_willis> I can stand on tip toe and see the machines!
[23:17] <Dr_willis> Athena,  all the gnome printers tuff is front ends to the cups system.
[23:17] <Dr_willis> I dont see why it would of removed anything.
[23:17] <Athena> maybe it wasn't there to start?
[23:17] <Athena> i can't remeber...
[23:17] <downix> Dr_willis: Got any 3k's?  8)
[23:17] <Athena> let me go look for the hplip stuff
[23:17] <Dr_willis> !find gnome-cups-manager
[23:17] <ubotu> Found: gnome-cups-manager
[23:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the gnome-cups-manager over the kde printer tool.. because with the Gnome tool.. i can get the printer gong in like 10 sec. :)
[23:18] <Athena> ok this is what i get
[23:18] <Athena> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[23:18] <Athena> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: /var/run/cups/cups.sock: connection refused (10).
[23:18] <Dr_willis> vs.. exploring the kde tool trying to figure it out.
[23:18] <Minataku> downix: Too late, I claimed them all.
[23:18] <Dr_willis> Only got a A1200, and CD32 left.
[23:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:18] <Dr_willis> when i can get to them.
[23:18] <downix> Minataku: Actually I'm building my own.  They cloned the hardware earlier this year, roll your own is the name of the game now.
[23:18] <Minataku> lol
[23:19] <Minataku> Cool
[23:19] <Dr_willis> downix,  got a URL for that info?
[23:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:19] <downix> I hated the A1200
[23:19] <Minataku> Yeah, link up
[23:19] <ubuntu> :)
[23:19] <Dr_willis> like i NEED another pc.
[23:19] <Minataku> Heh
[23:19] <Minataku> Amiga on an FPGA
[23:19] <ubuntu> Hi. Kubuntu can't recognize my speakers. What should I do?
[23:19] <Minataku> You could make an ultratiny Amiga
[23:19] <Minataku> XD
[23:19] <downix> I'm trying to fit it into a PDA, personally
[23:20] <downix> best use for that broken Palm V
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Amigabuntu.
[23:20] <downix> http://home.hetnet.nl/~weeren001/
[23:20] <albatross27> Kubuntu 7.10 can't recognize my speakers. How do I fix this?
[23:20] <downix> Dr_willis: I don't think any Linux can handle the 68000 CPU, only the 030 or higher
[23:20] <Dr_willis> albatross27,  Speakers? You mean soundcard?
[23:20] <Minataku> I know that NetBSD can run on a sun2
[23:20] <Dr_willis> downix,  yep. No mmu
[23:20] <ardchoille> Please take the off-topic chat to another channel.
[23:21] <Minataku> 68010 + 68555 or whatever
[23:21] <Minataku> With a custom Sun MMU
[23:21] <albatross27> !audio
[23:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:21] <d3ce1t> happy new yeaR! :D
[23:21] <downix> Minataku: You know in the original chipset specs there was to be an external MMU, but execs cut it out for cost.
[23:21] <Minataku> Otherwise, I believe the first Motorola chip to have a Motorola MMU was the 020
[23:21] <Minataku> downix: We better move this
[23:21] <BluesKaj> albatross27 , i doubt it's your speakers , unless you've already checked with the headphone output that the soundcard and sound system is working properly
[23:22] <Minataku> Before the Stuporcop gets out his banstick
[23:22] <Athena> apparently i need to reinstall CUPS
[23:22] <albatross27> BluesKaj: It's probably the sound card.
[23:35] <Athena> well that is it for me tonite...hopefully i'll get the printer working soon...thank you for all the help!
[23:42] <oakxx> hey, i keep failing on dual booting kubuntu with windows xp
[23:42] <oakxx> invald operating system is what i get
[23:42] <oakxx> and it doesnt goto grub after install
[23:42] <oakxx> this is a laptop with one harddrive.
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> oakxx: are you changing anything with where to install grub?
[23:43] <oakxx> so should grub goto hda? or hda1? or hd0? or what?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> hd
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> *hd0
[23:43] <oakxx> it auto puts it at hd0
[23:43] <oakxx> i thought.
[23:43] <BluesKaj> oakxx, did you install windows after installing kubuntu ?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> then that is correct.
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> what does your partitioning look like?
[23:43] <oakxx> windows installed first
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> that is the default. oakxx
[23:44] <BluesKaj> !grub
[23:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:44] <oakxx> well i used partitionmagic, to make a ext3+ swap partition
[23:44] <oakxx> and i also tried to do a "resize" from the install
[23:44] <oakxx> and i tried using wubi
[23:44] <BluesKaj> aiieee, partition chaos !'
[23:44] <oakxx> ive dual booted fedora on this machien before.
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> oakxx: ok... delete ALL partitions except the windows one and redo it. use the "manual" partitioning option in the installer
[23:46] <oakxx> ok
[23:46] <oakxx> right now i just reinstalled windows on the whole thing
[23:46] <oakxx> so this is one big ntfs partition
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> ok... then use you should be able to do the automatic(guided) partitioning...
[23:49] <oakxx> the automatic "resize"
[23:49] <oakxx> hmmm
[23:50] <oakxx> i think i tried this and it caused "invalid operating system"
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> ok... the  use the manual partitioning
[23:54] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I try to start Xpenguins but it won't work.  Though I've installed it through Adept and have started it from the command line nothing works.  I've tried a couple of commands but nothing works.
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> Ertain: does it through you the error that the command was not found?
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> *throw
[23:58] <ardchoille> Ertain: Open the System Settings app and I'll help you with that