/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/31/#ubuntu-ops.txt

linux_stuPriceChild: do you have a verdict?00:06
PriceChildaha you're done00:07
linux_stu;)00:07
linux_stuPriceChild: ? i'm assuming the worst... :(00:16
PriceChildHey sorry, was dealing with something else.00:16
linux_stuno problem00:17
PriceChildSo... read and *understood* the guidelines?00:17
linux_stuyes.  i apologize00:17
PriceChildlinux_stu, I've lifted the ban. Please abide by the guidelines of any channels you participate in. 99% of the time they are common sense and decency. #ubuntu is a busy channel so we have to be a little tougher.00:19
PriceChildHave fun.00:20
linux_stuthank you00:20
linux_stubtw, i found a grammar error in the guidelines00:20
tritiumlinux_stu: where?00:22
ardchoilleI'm logged in, I can fix it if need be00:22
linux_stulet me find it again00:23
linux_stuok found it00:23
linux_stuunder the "channel guidelines" section in the part about "time to ask"00:24
linux_stuit says "the time of day you ask _at_ will...."00:24
ardchoillelinux_stu: Thank you, I'll fix that now.00:25
PriceChildWhat's wrong with that/00:25
linux_stuto be gramatically correct it could be "the time of day at which you ask will..."00:25
ardchoilleFixed00:26
PriceChild:/00:26
linux_stuit's a misused preposition00:26
ardchoilleRight00:26
ardchoilleI was already logged in due to looking for other things to fix on othe rpages :)00:27
ardchoilleI'll look over the rest of that page and see if there's anyting else which needs to be corrected.00:28
ardchoilleOops, I think I made a boo boo. I didn't see the first line before making the change. I hope the Ubuntu irc council won't be too angry with me.00:29
ps3...00:30
linux_stuardchoille: you will be promptly sanctioned :)00:32
ardchoilleNah, these folks are very fair and open-minded :)00:33
PriceChildardchoille, hmmmm well you did need two attempts...00:33
ardchoillePriceChild: True00:34
ardchoillePriceChild: I must be slipping since being an editor for MandrakeLinux :(00:35
linux_stuuh oh00:36
linux_stuhe's burned out!00:36
PriceChildlinux_stu, anything else we can help you with?00:36
PriceChildps3, wii, can I help you?00:36
linux_stuno i was just leaving...00:36
ps3yea00:36
ardchoilleelkbuntu: May I pm you?00:41
elkbuntuardchoille, sure00:41
PriceChildps3, could you tell me how I can help?00:43
ps3sorry i was bussy00:43
ps3PriceChild: i just want to know if i will be unban anytime next year?00:44
ardchoillePriceChild: I see a few other things that could be corrected on that page. May I go ahead and make the corrections?00:47
PriceChildardchoille, run it by us first please00:48
ardchoillePriceChild: I see several changes needed and I wouldn't want to flood this channel.00:50
PriceChild!paste00:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)00:51
PriceChildps3, I don't think so. The op that I think would be best to make the decision won't be back this year.00:51
ps3this year?so he will be back 2008? PriceChild00:55
PriceChildps3, ask me next year00:55
ps3lol00:55
ps3ok00:55
ps3im partin now00:55
ardchoillePriceChild: I think I'll leave it to someone who is better known by the Ubuntu IRC council, or until I attain a higher level of trust so that I don't have to double my work.01:00
PriceChildI assume that means that you were lying when you said "i see several changes *needed*"01:01
ardchoillePriceChild: No, I simply don't feel the need to go through the document, paste the text that is there, paste the corrections, then go back and make the changes I am able to make. Sorry, but I just see that as doubling my work.01:08
ardchoillePriceChild: And, with all due respect, "lying" is a strong word that I would rather not be used regarding me.01:10
naliothardchoille: you are welcome to use http://www.novarata.net/wiki01:10
PriceChildI meant it sarcastically :/01:11
ardchoillenalioth: Thanks, but I was simply attempting to make our documentation appear more presentable.01:11
ardchoillePriceChild: Oh, then please accept my appologies.01:11
naliothardchoille: understood.  if you want to mock something up, feel free to do it there01:12
naliothi may even install mediawiki sometime or other01:12
ardchoillenalioth: Ah, thanks.01:12
naliothmaybe even moinmoin01:13
PriceChildardchoille, no need :)01:13
naliothyeah right.. i hate wikis01:13
ardchoillenalioth: lol01:13
HobbseePriceChild: it's a wiki anyway. it could have been reverted easily01:16
ardchoilleHobbsee: :)01:16
PriceChildpi3, hey there. How can I help?01:53
pi3hello PriceChild, I came here because I can't join #ubuntu01:54
pi3I changed the address of the IRC server01:54
PriceChildSo you would like a test?01:55
pi3yes, though I really don't know what I should do01:56
Picihold still01:56
LjL-MobileAnd fasten belts01:57
pi3so?02:02
Picipi3: you pass. hold on02:04
Picipi3: You can rejoin #ubuntu, sorry for the delay.02:04
pi3Pici, no problem thank you02:05
PriceChildhi Thug-life, how can i help?02:31
Thug-lifei was wondering if i was connected to the internet?02:32
PriceChildThug-life, yes you are, anything else I can help you with?02:34
Thug-lifeare you sure?02:34
Bob_LablahDCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE02:34
Bob_LablahDCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE02:34
Bob_LablahDCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE02:34
Bob_Lablahfkin02:34
PriceChildlawl, so the /remove thing. Why should we be doing move instead?02:34
Bob_Lablah!!02:34
* PriceChild grins02:34
PriceChildgah02:34
PriceChilds/move/kick/02:34
tonyyarussodid that really just happen?...02:34
PriceChildlawl, and I'd suggest against badmouthing staffers with no backing02:34
PriceChildtonyyarusso, i removed/banned him from #ubuntu.... his exploit didn't quite work properly :P02:35
tonyyarussonalioth: see Bob_Lablah [n=Cowie@unaffiliated/boblablah/x-0873] ^^02:35
PriceChilddoesn't seem like any staff around either02:35
tonyyarussoPriceChild: always a pluss02:35
tonyyarussothe former, that is02:35
PriceChildGary, you around?02:36
Garyyes02:36
Garyjust02:36
Thug-lifehow come when i type in http://zootube365.com it doesnt come up??02:36
PriceChildk-line/cloak removal/whatever you need to do for bob_lablah please gary?02:36
PriceChild!support | Thug-life02:36
ubotuThug-life: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org02:36
GaryPriceChild, nalioth has to do those, I cannot02:36
PriceChildGary, he hit "multiple channels", being here and #ubuntu, no chance of raising it with someone else?02:37
GaryPriceChild, i'll try02:38
PriceChilddearie me... i thought that url sounded a little odd but thought nothing of it02:38
PriceChildGary, thanks :)02:38
GaryPriceChild, k-line ftw02:40
PriceChildGary, ty, I'll remove the ban in #ubuntu02:40
ardchoilleWhat is the policy on pre-emptive banning when someone does what Thug-life did? He's now in #kubuntu but hasn't posted that url.02:41
tonyyarussoardchoille: Pre-type the ban and hover over the enter key.  While sometimes it's tempting, we generally don't do pre-emptive stuff on a fairly small data set.  Trolls moving on to their ninth channel or whatever are another matter though.02:43
PriceChildNormally don't act in other channels unless they do something there. Just have a kb ready for if he so much as coughs in the wrong direction.02:43
ardchoilleAh, will do. Thank you very much :)02:43
naliothwtf is going on here?02:48
tritiumnalioth: ?02:48
PriceChildI didn't do it!02:49
nalioth<sigh> it seems we can't go one day without my fancy script . . .02:49
PriceChildHehe :)02:49
PriceChildI love the way he managed to exploit *zero* people02:49
naliothbtw, that fellow met a k-train conducted by another staff member02:50
ardchoillePriceChild: hahaha02:50
PriceChildNot a sausage.02:50
PriceChildzip02:50
naliothin here or in #ubuntu ?02:50
PriceChildnalioth, yup, gary told me02:50
PriceChildnalioth, he tried in both02:50
naliothwell, the script is back.  madpilot beware02:51
Garylol02:52
PriceChildPici, most probably no need for the ban02:52
Piciyah.02:52
naliothPriceChild: ineffective02:53
Picihm?02:53
PriceChild<jkfldsjkflds> is someone to watch out for02:53
PriceChildnalioth, you mean the exploit "attempt"?02:53
naliothPriceChild: yes02:53
Piciklined? or shall I keep the ban02:53
PriceChildGood good. Just checking I didn't do something "ineffective" :)02:53
naliothklined02:54
lawldcc send omg why dont you just fucking block dcc send02:56
lawlfuckin boring network02:56
Picier.02:57
naliother. quite.02:57
naliothwhat idiots.02:57
PriceChildnever thought of that before....02:58
PriceChildnalioth, get on it!02:58
naliothPriceChild: it's not the dcc protocol that is at fault02:58
PriceChildgah my sarcasm really isn't apparant this evening :)02:58
naliothPriceChild: it's a stupid text string with the letters "d c c s e n d" int it02:59
PriceChildI'm too sarcastic irl also03:08
ubotu__mikem called the ops in #ubuntu ()03:39
ubotuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (lawl)04:12
GaryMadpilot, thanks  I was waiting for that nick to be a pain elsewhere04:13
MadpilotGary, nice tag-team - overlapping kb scripts :)04:13
Garylol, yeah04:14
GaryMadpilot, can you sort out your bantracker for me04:19
Madpilotwhat's the problem?04:20
Garynormally bans want a comment don't they?04:21
Madpilotgenerally, yes04:21
Madpilotif I can remember how to log into the bantracker, I'll add one...04:22
Garyokay, great04:22
Madpilotmeh, and of course Seveas isn't online to ask - I seem to have forgotten how to convince the bantracker to let me in...04:23
Garyahh, nevermind then04:23
Madpilotthere's some login method involving poking ubotu, it's not the most straightforward thing04:24
naliothGary: no, we don't nag for comments like that nasty [expletive expletive] dircbot does04:25
naliothGary: most of our bans don't last that long, and we comment the serial problems04:25
Garyahh, thats alright then04:25
naliothMadpilot: @btlogin to ubotu04:25
Madpilotnalioth, thanks04:25
GaryI like dircbot /me hides04:26
naliothi eventually had to ignore it, Gary04:26
MadpilotFloodbot makes my eyeballs twitch everytime I switch to #ubuntu... not used to op'd bots, nor to ops staying op'd there...04:33
naliothwho is opped there, Madpilot? (human)04:35
Madpilotnobody human, just the bot04:35
naliothwell, you'd mentioned 'ops staying op'd'04:40
Madpilotwell, "anyone staying op'd" would be a better way to phrase it, then04:42
MadpilotI'll get used to the bot, and I know it's useful.04:42
naliothit's just like chanserv staying opped04:42
MadpilotI know, just going to take a bit of getting used to in #ubuntu - no chanserv opped there04:43
ubotunickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (Anderson)05:23
ubotudebian called the ops in #ubuntu ()05:47
tonyyarussoyay over-response!05:47
nixternalI think that was the ass from earlier05:48
Madpilotthat was what, five of us?05:48
AmaranthMadpilot: Fastest gun in the room :)05:48
tonyyarussoyeah05:48
nixternalheh05:49
nixternal605:49
nixternalincluding me, I didn't get my /abk off quick enough though05:49
naliothnixternal: it was.05:49
AmaranthI saw 305:49
AmaranthSo the rest of you were too slow to try, I guess05:49
nixternalwell, I will go out on a limb right now and say I hate that summnabiznatch05:49
Amaranthoh, 405:50
nixternalI see 505:50
nixternalbut I didn't op cuz I did /abk deb<tab> but he was already gone05:50
Amaranthanyway, we clearly have too many ops online right now05:50
tonyyarusso:P05:51
Amaranthso, since my project for the day is done i think i'll go read a book and go to bed :)05:51
nixternalgood call, I am gonna go watch some tv while kde4 builds away05:51
naliothi'm amazingly lagged atm05:51
Amaranthand now we don't have enough ;)05:51
nixternallol05:51
MadpilotI'm around for a bit, waiting on laundry so I can finish packing :)05:51
tonyyarussoIt's okay, I played the "Madpilot cloning" power card on my last turn, so he's like four.05:52
nixternalwhere you headin' Madpilot?05:52
* tonyyarusso grabs a whiteboard and ponders financial planning05:52
nixternaleww, I hate financial planning...I just wrote up a financial summary for a proposed fortune 500 bid05:53
naliothwhy can't we have a file mangler that works as well as <gasp> windows explorer ?05:53
nixternalkonqueror05:53
nixternalmidnight commander05:53
naliothnixternal: nope05:53
nixternalhahaha05:53
nixternalmc rocks!05:53
Madpilotnixternal, off to my Dad's place for a week -05:53
naliothnixternal: i ask, because konqueror fails05:53
tonyyarussonixternal: I'm just sitting here realizing I should probably be investing and maybe sort of paying attention to my money, instead of just glancing at the checking account balance once in a while and going "hum, still there"05:54
tonyyarussoso if any experienced (ie. not 21...) folks want to tell me how this works, feel free :)05:55
nixternalI don't have any experience with windows explorer and pretty much only know konqueror and mc05:57
Madpilottonyyarusso, extra money is a sign that you're not spending enough on beer05:57
tonyyarussoMadpilot: You're quite right - I don't drink.05:57
Madpilotterrible05:58
naliothi'm sorry to say, windows explorer does make a good file mangler (if you disregard all the other cruft MS has thrown in)05:59
MadpilotNautilus is slicker, IMO. Haven't used Konq enough to really have an opinion.06:02
naliothnautilus is less featureful than konq, imho06:02
naliothi don't use nautilus at all06:02
Myrttimoin06:55
jussi01morning09:21
Tm_Tgood day all you kids11:39
jpatrickgood day Tm_T11:40
jussi01Heya Tm_T :D11:48
ubotuIn ubotu, jussi01 said: !smartphone is <reply> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/12:25
jussi01I also feel !portables shuld be aliased to that.12:26
jussi01!smartphones12:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartphones - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:26
jussi01!smartphone12:26
ubotuA guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8630212:26
jussi01that guide is rubbish and says so.12:26
PiciWhich?12:27
jussi01Pici: so what do you think?13:02
PiciI didn't actually look... /me looks13:03
PiciWiki links should be preferred over forum threads, especially ones that proclaim they are rubbish.13:06
Pici!no smartphone is <reply> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/13:09
ubotuI'll remember that Pici13:09
jussi01:)13:30
jussi01thanks Pici - could you also alias !portables to that?13:30
Pici!-portables13:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about portables - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:30
Pici!portables is <alias> smartphone13:30
ubotuI'll remember that, Pici13:30
PiciSurely13:31
jussi01:) thanks13:31
jussi01Pici: also, it might be nice to have !nokia aliased there also.13:49
Pici!nokia is <alias> smartphone13:49
ubotuI'll remember that, Pici13:49
PiciGood timing, I just got back to my desk13:49
jussi01:)13:49
jussi01!nokia13:50
ubotuGuides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/13:50
jussi01perfect13:50
ubotuJuhaz called the ops in #ubuntu ()14:26
ubotuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (davero86 spamming porn links)15:03
MenZaAre we sleeping in here?15:04
jussi01seems like it..15:05
jussi01it is new years after all15:05
MenZaevidently. :/15:05
MenZajussi01: you don't have channel ops, do you?15:06
jussi01MenZa: #kubuntu and #ubuntustudio only15:06
jussi01:/15:06
MenZaouch15:07
jussi01so no can help with #ubuntu :/15:08
jussi01MenZa: ^^ and that says it all, doesnt it...15:08
MenZa:p15:09
MenZaIndeed does. :D15:09
MenZaI noticed in #ubuntu, too15:09
jussi01hehe15:09
Piciband.15:16
MenZaROCK.15:26
ompaulAriel_Eran, is there something we can help you with?18:15
ompaulSeveas, dude have a fantastic 100819:05
ompaulSeveas, +100019:05
* ompaul falls over19:05
tonyyarussoSeveas is so old he already had a fantastic 1008.19:05
ompaultonyyarusso, surely that is me19:06
tonyyarussoompaul: hehe, perhaps19:06
ompaulcan't remember that far back19:07
tonyyarussocertainly not me at least19:07
MartinWI accidently told the best bot firefox is a windows manager. how do I undo that?19:32
ardchoilleMartinW: You don't need to. The things you say to the bot in regards to the factoids aren't automatically added.19:33
ardchoilleThey are first reviewed by someone who has that level of access and, if needed, they are added.19:34
MartinWBut it now says "the BESTEST window manager is compiz, because 1 people (20%) said so! Follow in order, icewm with 1 votes (20%), openbox with 1 votes (20%), firefox with 1 votes (20%), kwin4 with 1 votes (20%)"19:34
MartinWIsn't that a problem?19:34
ardchoille!firefox19:34
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins19:34
MartinWI am talking about the best bot.19:34
ardchoilleMartinW: Ah, my mistake. I'm not sure about best bot.19:35
MartinWAh well.19:35
ardchoilleSomeone will attend to this when they can :)19:35
MartinW:-(19:35
ardchoilleWho has access to best bot?19:36
jussi01ardchoille: I beleive its LjL's19:37
ardchoilleAh, thanks19:37
ardchoilleLjL: Have a look at what MartinW said when you have a chance.19:37
jussi01ardchoille: IIRC, LjL is away for a couple of days.19:38
ardchoillejussi01: Ok, thanks again :)19:41
Garyyeah, I think he is moored up in a bar or something till after new year19:44
ardchoillehehe19:45
=== jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick
lokoshi19:53
lokosis there some1 ?19:53
jussi01Hi lokos19:55
ompaullokos, you need to change your name@yourip19:55
lokoswhy ? ;p19:57
lokosok19:57
lokosi know what you mean19:57
ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu (flexgrip)20:03
Myrttimerh20:22
=== patrick__ is now known as jpatrick
=== patrick__ is now known as jpatrick
ompaul* AddyK-L32 (n=addyk@89.123.133.162) has joined #ubuntu    this user is banned until they fix their connection20:31
ardchoilleompaul: I did the same thing in #kubuntu20:33
ompaulardchoille, great minds think alike, if anyone says fools seldom differ please feel free to remove them ;-)20:33
ardchoillehehe20:34
MyrttiI'm considering leaving my loco ops to people that are better equipped dealing with mor^H^H^Hpeople having hard time understanding basics of CoC20:39
tonyyarussookay, would someone explain the origin of the ^H, ^W, etc. stuff?20:39
crdlbtonyyarusso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backspace20:41
tonyyarussozh20:42
tonyyarusso*ah20:42
Seveasfools seldom differ20:53
Seveasompaul, --^20:54
ompaulSeveas, we can remove you but getting rid of you is not really the same thing ;-) so welcome back for an evening of entertainment20:57
ompaul!choco | Seveas21:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about choco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:00
ompaul!choc | Seveas21:00
ubotuSeveas: have a hot chocolate from ompaul to usher in 2008!21:00
MyrttiI really feel the quality of the discussion at u-ot is multiple times better now22:10
Myrttisince our friend JimmyDee is currently abstained from participation22:11
Tm_T:)22:12
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti22:12
Myrttiwith a little help from my friends22:12
Tm_TMyrtti: who did help with my hug?!22:14
Myrttiompaul did22:14
Tm_Thmmmm22:14
Tm_Tyuck22:15
Myrtti!away > x-spec-t22:16
jussi01happy new year Myrtti and Tm_T22:16
Myrttihappy new year jussi01 and Tm_T :-)22:17
Myrtti*isohali*22:17
Tm_T:)22:17
Tm_Thappy tuesday night to you too22:17
jussi01:)22:17
jussi01Tm_T: hehe22:17
jussi01Hmmm, shouldnt the wording about the #ubuntu channel here be changed a little? http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/TechnicalUsers22:22
jussi01its hardly a discussion channel...22:22
Tm_Tjussi01: let me look at it22:23
Tm_Tjussi01: well, it was correct years back :-P22:26
Tm_Tjussi01: anyway, yes, it should say now it more verbose, like #ubuntu support and #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion22:26
jussi01hehe22:26
Tm_Tbut merely nitpicking22:27
jussi01yes. thats right. who do we contact about getting it changed?22:27
Tm_Tno idea22:27
jussi01true, but I think its important all the same.22:27
Tm_Tsure22:27
Tm_Tjussi01: actually it could point to our wikipage about IRC22:27
Tm_Tthat does explain it well22:28
jussi01thats a good point :)22:28

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