[00:06] PriceChild: do you have a verdict? [00:07] aha you're done [00:07] ;) [00:16] PriceChild: ? i'm assuming the worst... :( [00:16] Hey sorry, was dealing with something else. [00:17] no problem [00:17] So... read and *understood* the guidelines? [00:17] yes. i apologize [00:19] linux_stu, I've lifted the ban. Please abide by the guidelines of any channels you participate in. 99% of the time they are common sense and decency. #ubuntu is a busy channel so we have to be a little tougher. [00:20] Have fun. [00:20] thank you [00:20] btw, i found a grammar error in the guidelines [00:22] linux_stu: where? [00:22] I'm logged in, I can fix it if need be [00:23] let me find it again [00:23] ok found it [00:24] under the "channel guidelines" section in the part about "time to ask" [00:24] it says "the time of day you ask _at_ will...." [00:25] linux_stu: Thank you, I'll fix that now. [00:25] What's wrong with that/ [00:25] to be gramatically correct it could be "the time of day at which you ask will..." [00:26] Fixed [00:26] :/ [00:26] it's a misused preposition [00:26] Right [00:27] I was already logged in due to looking for other things to fix on othe rpages :) [00:28] I'll look over the rest of that page and see if there's anyting else which needs to be corrected. [00:29] Oops, I think I made a boo boo. I didn't see the first line before making the change. I hope the Ubuntu irc council won't be too angry with me. [00:30] ... [00:32] ardchoille: you will be promptly sanctioned :) [00:33] Nah, these folks are very fair and open-minded :) [00:33] ardchoille, hmmmm well you did need two attempts... [00:34] PriceChild: True [00:35] PriceChild: I must be slipping since being an editor for MandrakeLinux :( [00:36] uh oh [00:36] he's burned out! [00:36] linux_stu, anything else we can help you with? [00:36] ps3, wii, can I help you? [00:36] no i was just leaving... [00:36] yea [00:41] elkbuntu: May I pm you? [00:41] ardchoille, sure [00:43] ps3, could you tell me how I can help? [00:43] sorry i was bussy [00:44] PriceChild: i just want to know if i will be unban anytime next year? [00:47] PriceChild: I see a few other things that could be corrected on that page. May I go ahead and make the corrections? [00:48] ardchoille, run it by us first please [00:50] PriceChild: I see several changes needed and I wouldn't want to flood this channel. [00:51] !paste [00:51] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [00:51] ps3, I don't think so. The op that I think would be best to make the decision won't be back this year. [00:55] this year?so he will be back 2008? PriceChild [00:55] ps3, ask me next year [00:55] lol [00:55] ok [00:55] im partin now [01:00] PriceChild: I think I'll leave it to someone who is better known by the Ubuntu IRC council, or until I attain a higher level of trust so that I don't have to double my work. [01:01] I assume that means that you were lying when you said "i see several changes *needed*" [01:08] PriceChild: No, I simply don't feel the need to go through the document, paste the text that is there, paste the corrections, then go back and make the changes I am able to make. Sorry, but I just see that as doubling my work. [01:10] PriceChild: And, with all due respect, "lying" is a strong word that I would rather not be used regarding me. [01:10] ardchoille: you are welcome to use http://www.novarata.net/wiki [01:11] I meant it sarcastically :/ [01:11] nalioth: Thanks, but I was simply attempting to make our documentation appear more presentable. [01:11] PriceChild: Oh, then please accept my appologies. [01:12] ardchoille: understood. if you want to mock something up, feel free to do it there [01:12] i may even install mediawiki sometime or other [01:12] nalioth: Ah, thanks. [01:13] maybe even moinmoin [01:13] ardchoille, no need :) [01:13] yeah right.. i hate wikis [01:13] nalioth: lol [01:16] PriceChild: it's a wiki anyway. it could have been reverted easily [01:16] Hobbsee: :) [01:53] pi3, hey there. How can I help? [01:54] hello PriceChild, I came here because I can't join #ubuntu [01:54] I changed the address of the IRC server [01:55] So you would like a test? [01:56] yes, though I really don't know what I should do [01:56] hold still [01:57] And fasten belts [02:02] so? [02:04] pi3: you pass. hold on [02:04] pi3: You can rejoin #ubuntu, sorry for the delay. [02:05] Pici, no problem thank you [02:31] hi Thug-life, how can i help? [02:32] i was wondering if i was connected to the internet? [02:34] Thug-life, yes you are, anything else I can help you with? [02:34] are you sure? [02:34] DCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE [02:34] DCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE [02:34] DCC SEND HYBFSDISDYUFBEFEASHKSNFSDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJESDFHSDKBFSDLKFBDFUBFSDFKSOFNUSEUFSNIFWEBFWEUFKWEJFNWEFJKWENFWEUIFNWJE [02:34] fkin [02:34] lawl, so the /remove thing. Why should we be doing move instead? [02:34] !! [02:34] * PriceChild grins [02:34] gah [02:34] s/move/kick/ [02:34] did that really just happen?... [02:34] lawl, and I'd suggest against badmouthing staffers with no backing [02:35] tonyyarusso, i removed/banned him from #ubuntu.... his exploit didn't quite work properly :P [02:35] nalioth: see Bob_Lablah [n=Cowie@unaffiliated/boblablah/x-0873] ^^ [02:35] doesn't seem like any staff around either [02:35] PriceChild: always a pluss [02:35] the former, that is [02:36] Gary, you around? [02:36] yes [02:36] just [02:36] how come when i type in http://zootube365.com it doesnt come up?? [02:36] k-line/cloak removal/whatever you need to do for bob_lablah please gary? [02:36] !support | Thug-life [02:36] Thug-life: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [02:36] PriceChild, nalioth has to do those, I cannot [02:37] Gary, he hit "multiple channels", being here and #ubuntu, no chance of raising it with someone else? [02:38] PriceChild, i'll try [02:38] dearie me... i thought that url sounded a little odd but thought nothing of it [02:38] Gary, thanks :) [02:40] PriceChild, k-line ftw [02:40] Gary, ty, I'll remove the ban in #ubuntu [02:41] What is the policy on pre-emptive banning when someone does what Thug-life did? He's now in #kubuntu but hasn't posted that url. [02:43] ardchoille: Pre-type the ban and hover over the enter key. While sometimes it's tempting, we generally don't do pre-emptive stuff on a fairly small data set. Trolls moving on to their ninth channel or whatever are another matter though. [02:43] Normally don't act in other channels unless they do something there. Just have a kb ready for if he so much as coughs in the wrong direction. [02:43] Ah, will do. Thank you very much :) [02:48] wtf is going on here? [02:48] nalioth: ? [02:49] I didn't do it! [02:49] it seems we can't go one day without my fancy script . . . [02:49] Hehe :) [02:49] I love the way he managed to exploit *zero* people [02:50] btw, that fellow met a k-train conducted by another staff member [02:50] PriceChild: hahaha [02:50] Not a sausage. [02:50] zip [02:50] in here or in #ubuntu ? [02:50] nalioth, yup, gary told me [02:50] nalioth, he tried in both [02:51] well, the script is back. madpilot beware [02:52] lol [02:52] Pici, most probably no need for the ban [02:52] yah. [02:53] PriceChild: ineffective [02:53] hm? [02:53] is someone to watch out for [02:53] nalioth, you mean the exploit "attempt"? [02:53] PriceChild: yes [02:53] klined? or shall I keep the ban [02:53] Good good. Just checking I didn't do something "ineffective" :) [02:54] klined [02:56] dcc send omg why dont you just fucking block dcc send [02:56] fuckin boring network [02:57] er. [02:57] er. quite. [02:57] what idiots. [02:58] never thought of that before.... [02:58] nalioth, get on it! [02:58] PriceChild: it's not the dcc protocol that is at fault [02:58] gah my sarcasm really isn't apparant this evening :) [02:59] PriceChild: it's a stupid text string with the letters "d c c s e n d" int it [03:08] I'm too sarcastic irl also [03:39] __mikem called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:12] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (lawl) [04:13] Madpilot, thanks I was waiting for that nick to be a pain elsewhere [04:13] Gary, nice tag-team - overlapping kb scripts :) [04:14] lol, yeah [04:19] Madpilot, can you sort out your bantracker for me [04:20] what's the problem? [04:21] normally bans want a comment don't they? [04:21] generally, yes [04:22] if I can remember how to log into the bantracker, I'll add one... [04:22] okay, great [04:23] meh, and of course Seveas isn't online to ask - I seem to have forgotten how to convince the bantracker to let me in... [04:23] ahh, nevermind then [04:24] there's some login method involving poking ubotu, it's not the most straightforward thing [04:25] Gary: no, we don't nag for comments like that nasty [expletive expletive] dircbot does [04:25] Gary: most of our bans don't last that long, and we comment the serial problems [04:25] ahh, thats alright then [04:25] Madpilot: @btlogin to ubotu [04:25] nalioth, thanks [04:26] I like dircbot /me hides [04:26] i eventually had to ignore it, Gary [04:33] Floodbot makes my eyeballs twitch everytime I switch to #ubuntu... not used to op'd bots, nor to ops staying op'd there... [04:35] who is opped there, Madpilot? (human) [04:35] nobody human, just the bot [04:40] well, you'd mentioned 'ops staying op'd' [04:42] well, "anyone staying op'd" would be a better way to phrase it, then [04:42] I'll get used to the bot, and I know it's useful. [04:42] it's just like chanserv staying opped [04:43] I know, just going to take a bit of getting used to in #ubuntu - no chanserv opped there [05:23] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu (Anderson) [05:47] debian called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:47] yay over-response! [05:48] I think that was the ass from earlier [05:48] that was what, five of us? [05:48] Madpilot: Fastest gun in the room :) [05:48] yeah [05:49] heh [05:49] 6 [05:49] including me, I didn't get my /abk off quick enough though [05:49] nixternal: it was. [05:49] I saw 3 [05:49] So the rest of you were too slow to try, I guess [05:49] well, I will go out on a limb right now and say I hate that summnabiznatch [05:50] oh, 4 [05:50] I see 5 [05:50] but I didn't op cuz I did /abk deb but he was already gone [05:50] anyway, we clearly have too many ops online right now [05:51] :P [05:51] so, since my project for the day is done i think i'll go read a book and go to bed :) [05:51] good call, I am gonna go watch some tv while kde4 builds away [05:51] i'm amazingly lagged atm [05:51] and now we don't have enough ;) [05:51] lol [05:51] I'm around for a bit, waiting on laundry so I can finish packing :) [05:52] It's okay, I played the "Madpilot cloning" power card on my last turn, so he's like four. [05:52] where you headin' Madpilot? [05:52] * tonyyarusso grabs a whiteboard and ponders financial planning [05:53] eww, I hate financial planning...I just wrote up a financial summary for a proposed fortune 500 bid [05:53] why can't we have a file mangler that works as well as windows explorer ? [05:53] konqueror [05:53] midnight commander [05:53] nixternal: nope [05:53] hahaha [05:53] mc rocks! [05:53] nixternal, off to my Dad's place for a week - [05:53] nixternal: i ask, because konqueror fails [05:54] nixternal: I'm just sitting here realizing I should probably be investing and maybe sort of paying attention to my money, instead of just glancing at the checking account balance once in a while and going "hum, still there" [05:55] so if any experienced (ie. not 21...) folks want to tell me how this works, feel free :) [05:57] I don't have any experience with windows explorer and pretty much only know konqueror and mc [05:57] tonyyarusso, extra money is a sign that you're not spending enough on beer [05:57] Madpilot: You're quite right - I don't drink. [05:58] terrible [05:59] i'm sorry to say, windows explorer does make a good file mangler (if you disregard all the other cruft MS has thrown in) [06:02] Nautilus is slicker, IMO. Haven't used Konq enough to really have an opinion. [06:02] nautilus is less featureful than konq, imho [06:02] i don't use nautilus at all [06:55] moin [09:21] morning [11:39] good day all you kids [11:40] good day Tm_T [11:48] Heya Tm_T :D [12:25] In ubotu, jussi01 said: !smartphone is Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/ [12:26] I also feel !portables shuld be aliased to that. [12:26] !smartphones [12:26] Sorry, I don't know anything about smartphones - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [12:26] !smartphone [12:26] A guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86302 [12:26] that guide is rubbish and says so. [12:27] Which? [13:02] Pici: so what do you think? [13:03] I didn't actually look... /me looks [13:06] Wiki links should be preferred over forum threads, especially ones that proclaim they are rubbish. [13:09] !no smartphone is Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/ [13:09] I'll remember that Pici [13:30] :) [13:30] thanks Pici - could you also alias !portables to that? [13:30] !-portables [13:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about portables - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:30] !portables is smartphone [13:30] I'll remember that, Pici [13:31] Surely [13:31] :) thanks [13:49] Pici: also, it might be nice to have !nokia aliased there also. [13:49] !nokia is smartphone [13:49] I'll remember that, Pici [13:49] Good timing, I just got back to my desk [13:49] :) [13:50] !nokia [13:50] Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/ [13:50] perfect [14:26] Juhaz called the ops in #ubuntu () [15:03] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (davero86 spamming porn links) [15:04] Are we sleeping in here? [15:05] seems like it.. [15:05] it is new years after all [15:05] evidently. :/ [15:06] jussi01: you don't have channel ops, do you? [15:06] MenZa: #kubuntu and #ubuntustudio only [15:06] :/ [15:07] ouch [15:08] so no can help with #ubuntu :/ [15:08] MenZa: ^^ and that says it all, doesnt it... [15:09] :p [15:09] Indeed does. :D [15:09] I noticed in #ubuntu, too [15:09] hehe [15:16] band. [15:26] ROCK. [18:15] Ariel_Eran, is there something we can help you with? [19:05] Seveas, dude have a fantastic 1008 [19:05] Seveas, +1000 [19:05] * ompaul falls over [19:05] Seveas is so old he already had a fantastic 1008. [19:06] tonyyarusso, surely that is me [19:06] ompaul: hehe, perhaps [19:07] can't remember that far back [19:07] certainly not me at least [19:32] I accidently told the best bot firefox is a windows manager. how do I undo that? [19:33] MartinW: You don't need to. The things you say to the bot in regards to the factoids aren't automatically added. [19:34] They are first reviewed by someone who has that level of access and, if needed, they are added. [19:34] But it now says "the BESTEST window manager is compiz, because 1 people (20%) said so! Follow in order, icewm with 1 votes (20%), openbox with 1 votes (20%), firefox with 1 votes (20%), kwin4 with 1 votes (20%)" [19:34] Isn't that a problem? [19:34] !firefox [19:34] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins [19:34] I am talking about the best bot. [19:35] MartinW: Ah, my mistake. I'm not sure about best bot. [19:35] Ah well. [19:35] Someone will attend to this when they can :) [19:35] :-( [19:36] Who has access to best bot? [19:37] ardchoille: I beleive its LjL's [19:37] Ah, thanks [19:37] LjL: Have a look at what MartinW said when you have a chance. [19:38] ardchoille: IIRC, LjL is away for a couple of days. [19:41] jussi01: Ok, thanks again :) [19:44] yeah, I think he is moored up in a bar or something till after new year [19:45] hehe === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick [19:53] hi [19:53] is there some1 ? [19:55] Hi lokos [19:55] lokos, you need to change your name@yourip [19:57] why ? ;p [19:57] ok [19:57] i know what you mean [20:03] Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (flexgrip) [20:22] merh === patrick__ is now known as jpatrick === patrick__ is now known as jpatrick [20:31] * AddyK-L32 (n=addyk@89.123.133.162) has joined #ubuntu this user is banned until they fix their connection [20:33] ompaul: I did the same thing in #kubuntu [20:33] ardchoille, great minds think alike, if anyone says fools seldom differ please feel free to remove them ;-) [20:34] hehe [20:39] I'm considering leaving my loco ops to people that are better equipped dealing with mor^H^H^Hpeople having hard time understanding basics of CoC [20:39] okay, would someone explain the origin of the ^H, ^W, etc. stuff? [20:41] tonyyarusso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backspace [20:42] zh [20:42] *ah [20:53] fools seldom differ [20:54] ompaul, --^ [20:57] Seveas, we can remove you but getting rid of you is not really the same thing ;-) so welcome back for an evening of entertainment [21:00] !choco | Seveas [21:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about choco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [21:00] !choc | Seveas [21:00] Seveas: have a hot chocolate from ompaul to usher in 2008! [22:10] I really feel the quality of the discussion at u-ot is multiple times better now [22:11] since our friend JimmyDee is currently abstained from participation [22:12] :) [22:12] * Tm_T hugs Myrtti [22:12] with a little help from my friends [22:14] Myrtti: who did help with my hug?! [22:14] ompaul did [22:14] hmmmm [22:15] yuck [22:16] !away > x-spec-t [22:16] happy new year Myrtti and Tm_T [22:17] happy new year jussi01 and Tm_T :-) [22:17] *isohali* [22:17] :) [22:17] happy tuesday night to you too [22:17] :) [22:17] Tm_T: hehe [22:22] Hmmm, shouldnt the wording about the #ubuntu channel here be changed a little? http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/TechnicalUsers [22:22] its hardly a discussion channel... [22:23] jussi01: let me look at it [22:26] jussi01: well, it was correct years back :-P [22:26] jussi01: anyway, yes, it should say now it more verbose, like #ubuntu support and #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion [22:26] hehe [22:27] but merely nitpicking [22:27] yes. thats right. who do we contact about getting it changed? [22:27] no idea [22:27] true, but I think its important all the same. [22:27] sure [22:27] jussi01: actually it could point to our wikipage about IRC [22:28] that does explain it well [22:28] thats a good point :)