[00:00] <turis> hi
[00:00] <tom1979> ok
[00:00] <tom1979> long list of forced map regs
[00:00] <TheEagle> yep
[00:00] <TheEagle> now, run this command
[00:00] <TheEagle> ndiswrapper -l
[00:01] <rbs-tito> BehiiMehii: Is this Gutsy Gibbon?
[00:01] <casperzshado> rbs-tito, its a sata hdd in ntfs format, ubuntu doesnt see it
[00:01] <thedefender> ubotu: ping
[00:01] <ubotu> pong
[00:01] <TheEagle> paste your output in the paste bin if its large
[00:01] <tom1979> device present alternative driver
[00:01] <TheEagle> ok
[00:01] <rbs-tito> casperzshado: It isn't listed in places > computer?
[00:01] <TheEagle> thats good
[00:01] <Squintz> When setting up a partition for ubuntu which filesystem type should I select in gparted?
[00:01] <tom1979>  driver installed
[00:01] <tom1979>         device (168C:001C) present (alternate driver: ath_pci)
[00:01] <rbs-tito> Squintz: ext3
[00:01] <jkfldsjkflds> ansaguy do you still plan on gaining muscle and losing fat?
[00:01] <thedefender> Squintz:ex3
[00:01] <casperzshado> rbs-tito, no, it was yesterday though
[00:01] <Squintz> thanks
[00:02] <rbs-tito> casperzshado: Try restarting?
[00:02] <TheEagle> now try iwconfig and cross your fingers
[00:02] <TheEagle> hehe
[00:02] <kitche> whois jkfldsjkflds
[00:02] <thedefender> anyone gotten compiz to work under bigdesktop mode
[00:02] <tom1979> nothing different:(
[00:02] <TheEagle> hmm...
[00:02] <dontpanic> Hi, I have nVIDIA integrated graphics and I am looking for their latest driver on their website.  My motherboard is ecs c51pvgm-m.  Could someone please help me figure out what graphics driver I need?
[00:02] <casperzshado> rbs-tito, a couple times and changed the sata port it was in, it stoped reading it after i attempted that ntfs thing
[00:02] <tom1979> theeagle starting to annoy me now:(
[00:03] <AdamC> TwoD_, do you mean a Linux Firewall?
[00:03] <jkfldsjkflds> thedefender i dont know what bigdesktop mode is, but every compiz fusion function works for me that i have tried
[00:03] <jkfldsjkflds> even the ''unsupported'' plugins work for me
[00:03] <TheEagle> hehe
[00:03] <TheEagle> ok
[00:03] <TheEagle> im looking
[00:03] <tom1979> kk
[00:03] <hacim> does anyone know where I can get a newer amarok build for gutsy?
[00:03] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: Hi, could I have the noutput of the command lspci | grep "VGA"
[00:03] <rbs-tito> hacim: www.getdeb.net maybe
[00:03] <tom1979> nothing stupid like needing to turn the wifi on through the keyboard is it?
[00:04] <hacim> rbs-tito: what about from edgy repos?
[00:04] <TheEagle> ok
[00:04] <dontpanic> Ok, here it is:  00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[00:04] <erUSUL> hacim: maybe in getdeb ??
[00:04] <TheEagle> i have a feeling you may need to restart your system
[00:04] <TheEagle> but first
[00:04] <jkfldsjkflds> maybe tom should try the ifconfig, iwconfig, solution using whatever ubuntus built in gui wifi controller app is
[00:04] <rbs-tito> hacim: Are you using dapper or something?
[00:04] <TheEagle> run the command dmesg
[00:04] <thedefender> jkfldsjkflds: Bigdesktop is ATI version of Xinerama. It makes to monitors into one virtual screen
[00:04] <hacim> erUSUL: getdeb doesn't have any
[00:04] <jkfldsjkflds> since ndiswrapper reports the driver working and hardware present it seems unlikely it wouldnt work
[00:04] <hacim> rbs-tito: no, gutsy
[00:04] <Bob_Dole> Oh bloody hell.. it was my USB thumb drive... making it freeze up @.x
[00:05] <galacticone> I just installed fw cutter through the restricted drivers manager and I cant see any wireless networks, does anyone know what I could do?
[00:05] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:05] <jkfldsjkflds> thedefender i have read that compiz fusion and dual monitors are issue prone, personally im on an nvidia laptop, so i cant relate
[00:05] <dontpanic> 7.10
[00:05] <tom1979> what part of dmesg r u after?
[00:05] <rbs-tito> hacim: Edgy repos would have an older version then
[00:05] <TheEagle> just see if there are any errors reported with a wireless thing?
[00:05] <thedefender> jkfldsjkflds: wait til you try and hook up an external monitor and you will see
[00:05] <hacim> rbs-tito: roger
[00:05] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: And if you go to system > administration > restricted drivers, can you get it there?
[00:05] <erUSUL> !bcm43xx | galacticone
[00:05] <ubotu> galacticone: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[00:05] <jkfldsjkflds> there are some supposed solutions on ubuntuforums.com
[00:05] <Bob_Dole> I'm going to buy me an Nvidia videocard. I have 110 dollars though..and that is it :|
[00:06] <dontpanic> I tried that, but then it has problems when I switch users and with virtual machines.
[00:06] <jkfldsjkflds> cant you get an 8500gt with that?
[00:06] <galacticone> I did  that already it said it installed successfully
[00:06] <thedefender> I have searched all of the internet and not found a solution
[00:06] <Bob_Dole> 8500gt?
[00:06] <TwoD_> AdamC, Firestarter is a GUI frontend for iptables which is (simply put) a list of allowed incomming/outgoing ports. Iptables is always active in Ubuntu, but you only need to have Firestarter running when making changes to iptables by adding/removing policies in Firewall. That way you can easily open the listen port for Azureus.
[00:06] <dontpanic> Someone in a forum suggested getting the latest version from the site
[00:06] <Eds> Well, took me about 5 mins of KDE to make me want to try out Gnome
[00:06] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: You could try a newer one, there is a program called Envy that will get the latest driver for you
[00:06] <galacticone> i got the newest one
[00:06] <jkfldsjkflds> eds, yeah kde blows, its slow, and crashes easily
[00:07] <galacticone> i installed it offline
[00:07] <jkfldsjkflds> the gnome version is much more stable
[00:07] <Eds> So I just worked out, even from default it seemed like I had to be carefull with it, felt fragile :(
[00:07] <galacticone> since I couldnt get online at all without a wireless connection
[00:07] <dontpanic> Ok, how can I get it?
[00:07] <dontpanic> I tried apt-get envy but it said "E: Invalid operation envy"
[00:07] <jkfldsjkflds> lol kde is fragile, like a fragile little child who wants but does not receive
[00:07] <soldats> !envy
[00:07] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:08] <rsk> do not recommend envy in here. if someone did.
[00:08] <thedefender> whats the chat for desktop effects
[00:08] <jangari> dontpanic, "sudo apt-get install envy"
[00:08] <Bob_Dole> My system is AGP, and PCI..no PCI express :|
[00:08] <kitche> thedefender: #compiz-fusion
[00:08] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/legacy/envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[00:08] <jkfldsjkflds> haha, jangari doesnt listen
[00:08] <TheEagle> tom1979: try a system restart
[00:08] <tbarturbo> theeagle this list is massive shall i paste it
[00:08] <Eds> lol, well im burning Ubuntu atm and doing a fresh install of it
[00:08] <TheEagle> yes
[00:08] <AdamC> TwoD_, seems a little complicated for me.
[00:08] <thedefender> kitche:ty
[00:08] <jkfldsjkflds> envy isnt even in the repo's jangari
[00:08] <tbarturbo> how do i paste?
[00:08] <dontpanic> Oh yeah oops I forgot how to use apt-get for a second :P
[00:08] <jangari> oh, alright then
[00:08] <TheEagle> !paste | tbarturbo
[00:08] <ubotu> tbarturbo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:08] <dontpanic> Erm, "E: Couldn't find package envy"
[00:08] <jangari> then apt-cache search envy
[00:09] <jangari> see what the package is called
[00:09] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: You have to get the package from that link
[00:09] <jkfldsjkflds> oh gawdly heavenly father
[00:09] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: It isn't in a repository
[00:09] <erUSUL> !envy | jangari
[00:09] <ubotu> jangari: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:09] <rbs-tito> erUSUL: Except he is having issues with the packaged version of the driver
[00:09] <jangari> hey, i don't really care, i don't even know what envy is,
[00:10] <jkfldsjkflds> if i were an op you so would have been warned by now
[00:10] <galacticone>   why dont they just put the fing driver on the cd and give out a bunch of warnings?
[00:10] <memmmoww> does anybody want to help a begginer use linux
[00:10] <nuGz> how to i start grapewine with the terminal? because its not showing up in apps
[00:10] <galacticone> instead of all of this crap
[00:10] <memmmoww> i need help installing programs
[00:10] <tom1979> theeagle http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50211/
[00:10] <TheEagle> thanks
[00:10] <rbs-tito> !ask | memmmow
[00:10] <ubotu> memmmow: Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:10] <tom1979> shall i reboot while you look?
[00:10] <wols> rbs-tito: as soon as he uses envy no one will help him from in here anymore about his vga problems
[00:10] <TwoD_> AdamC, not really. But you could also open that port manually by typing "sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport port_here -j ACCEPT"
[00:11] <TheEagle> yes
[00:11] <TwoD_> AdamC, in a terminal that is
[00:11] <soldats> memmmoww, you may pm me if youd like
[00:11] <tbarturbo> ok im still here ;)
[00:11] <rbs-tito> wols: Why? The Nvidia drivers are all unsupported
[00:11] <jangari> memmmoww, system > administration > synaptic package manager, give that a whirl
[00:11] <jkfldsjkflds> wow, TwoD_ really knows stuff
[00:11] <TheEagle> hehe ok
[00:11] <jkfldsjkflds> i wish i knew stuff like that
[00:11] <XxValetexX> hello people
[00:11] <TwoD_> jkfldsjkflds, huh?
[00:11] <dontpanic> Ok, I installed that package, do I have to do anything else?
[00:11] <alberto_gs> hello everybody
[00:12] <soldats> hallo
[00:12] <jkfldsjkflds> thats just a lot of stuff to know iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport port_here -j ACCEPT
[00:12] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: I suppose I should warn you that if you use that package people in here have said they won't help you
[00:12] <kevin__> Hello.
[00:12] <dontpanic> Why?
[00:12] <dontpanic> What's wrong with it?
[00:12] <wols> TwoD_: why would a port be blocked?
[00:12] <kevin__> How would I go about setting up a USB connected printer in Xubuntu?
[00:13] <rbs-tito> dontpanic: The supported way is to use the restricted manager, Envy just automates the drivers from Nvidias website
[00:13] <XxValetexX> I just installed squid from synaptic. Apparently there should be a directory like /usr/local/squid, but there isnt. Anybody can help me out on this one?
[00:13] <wols> dontpanic: it breaks your ubunut
[00:13] <wols> !envy | dontpanic
[00:13] <ubotu> dontpanic: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:13]  * TheEagle is waiting for tom1979 to reappear
[00:13] <wols> see the "Not supported here"?
[00:13] <TwoD_> wols, most ports are by default blocked for safety
[00:13] <rbs-tito> wols: "breaks"?
[00:13] <jkfldsjkflds> lol envy breaks your ubuntu? i didnt know that
[00:13] <dontpanic> breaks it in what way?
[00:13] <wols> TwoD_: you are mistaken. ubuntu doesn't block a single port by default unless the user explictly does it
[00:14] <jkfldsjkflds> taints it from its official supportness maybe
[00:14] <TwoD_> jkfldsjkflds, hehe, you'll soon memorize things like that (and use the --help option a lot!) =)
[00:14] <TheEagle> almost rebooted tbarturbo?
[00:14] <tbarturbo> theeagle spotted anything yet?
[00:14] <XxValetexX> wols: it is bloked, just check on shields up site or something
[00:14] <rbs-tito> wols: It most certainly didn't break mine, infact I couldn't use 3D if it wasn't for it
[00:14] <tbarturbo> almost
[00:14] <wols> XxValetexX: ubuntu doesn't block anythng by default, period
[00:14] <TheEagle> no, i was just looking for a possible pci card error but i can't find one
[00:14] <tbarturbo> is it activated?
[00:15] <TheEagle> i don't know
[00:15] <jkfldsjkflds> lol twoD, slowly but surely im working my way to a rounded knowledge of linux, really havent used it long enough to get it all down
[00:15] <XxValetexX> Ok so anybody can help me out with Squid?
[00:15] <TheEagle> i don't understand hex or anything like that i was just looking for a message that says "PCI Error" or something
[00:15] <TheEagle> and there isn't one
[00:15] <jkfldsjkflds> its far  better than windows and osx, just a lot to learn
[00:15] <tbarturbo> theeagle ffs forgot i have the live cd in the drive better reboot again lol
[00:15] <TheEagle> hehe
[00:15] <lesshaste_> anyone here used frostwire?Is it any good?
[00:15] <TwoD_> wols, my iptables has never let anything through unless I've explicitly told it to. It also keeps "losing" settings now and then so I have to open ports again. Always works if I do it from Firestarter though.
[00:16] <XxValetexX> lesshaste_ yes frostwire is really good :o
[00:16] <rbs-tito> I had to use firestarter to open my HTTP port
[00:16] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, cool... going to try it now then :)
[00:16] <TheEagle> if this doesn't work i am not going to be able to help you any further, sorry
[00:16] <jkfldsjkflds> frostwire requires java, kinda resource hungry. gtk-gnutella works without that
[00:16] <XxValetexX> lesshaste_ mostly for music tho
[00:16] <tbarturbo> yer ok no worries
[00:16] <wols> TwoD_: that is not default ubuntu. ubuntu doesn't set any ports to closed. it doesn't install any kind of firewall software by default either. what you do is of course maybe different. but default ubuntu doesn't
[00:16] <jkfldsjkflds> but yeah if you like limewire you will like frostwire, its the same damn thing almost
[00:16] <alberto_gs> anyone here used kismet?
[00:16] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, cool
[00:16] <rbs-tito> alberto_gs: Yes
[00:17] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, I've got into obscure music recently :)
[00:17] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, so bi*****ent won't do :)
[00:17] <XxValetexX> lesshaste_ sounds rather dark :P
[00:17] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/worldmusic/a4wm2008/2008_bassekou_ngoni_album.shtml for example
[00:17] <Thorsten11> hello all
[00:18] <tbarturbo> so when this is rebooted if it doesnt work what the way forward... pcmcia? theeagle
[00:18] <|DuReX|> how can i search for wireless networks ?
[00:18] <tsrk> Do the restricted drivers get updated with ubuntu updates?
[00:18] <TheEagle> well... some chipsets are automatically supported within ubuntu
[00:18] <|DuReX|> do i need to install a particular tool ?
[00:18] <TheEagle> such as mine - RTL8187
[00:19] <XxValetexX> wols: well isnt it weird that on the help files it says its closed, and also in forums, and also in security audit websites
[00:19] <gikid> what is a high load average?
[00:19] <TheEagle> so if you get one that is supported - it will work as soon as you plug it in
[00:19] <tbarturbo> theeagle id need a usb or pcmcia card though...
[00:19] <craigbass1976> What's the consensus now on upgrading to 7.10 with the update/upgrade GUI?
[00:19] <tsrk> mine's not though
[00:19] <wols> XxValetexX: it's closed since nothing listens on the outside duh. as it should
[00:19] <gikid>  7:18PM  up  7:22, 2 users, load averages: 1.47, 1.83, 1.66
[00:19] <TheEagle> yes
[00:19] <gikid> are those load avg's considered high?
[00:19] <TheEagle> you rebooted yet? hehe
[00:20] <tbarturbo> yep
[00:20] <tbarturbo> no wifi what shall i do in terminal anything?
[00:20] <nuGz> how to i start grapevine and make it an app?
[00:20] <alberto_gs> anyone here used kismet?
[00:20] <TwoD_> wols, iptables is there, it DROPs all connections by default. I din't change that since installing.
[00:20] <tsrk> yep
[00:20] <TheEagle> type iwconfig
[00:20] <nuGz> how to i start grapevine and make it an app?
[00:20] <XxValetexX> sir oi cara :)
[00:20] <tbarturbo> lo eth0 no wifi extensions
[00:20] <lui1> join /ubuntu-br
[00:20] <jkfldsjkflds> i just tried to start kismet it wouldnt start o well
[00:20] <galacticone> I tried using ndiswrapper on a live cd and it wouldnt even load the driver at all
[00:21] <TheEagle> i don't know then
[00:21] <jkfldsjkflds> my card doesnt support monitor mode anyway
[00:21] <TheEagle> sorry
[00:21] <tbarturbo> :(
[00:21] <galacticone> it just remained blank and didnt load the driver
[00:21] <tsrk> k
[00:21] <nuGz>  how to i start grapevine and make it an app?
[00:21] <tbarturbo> ah well thanx for trying... so ive tried mad wifi and ndiswrapper and no joy now?
[00:21] <galacticone> I got it to work once and then ever since then it hasnt ever worked for me on the live cd of ubuntu
[00:22] <TheEagle> can anyone in here help tbarturbo - he needs help with ndiswrapper with a ATHEROS AR5006EG chipset
[00:22] <TheEagle> i have run out of ideas
[00:22] <alberto_gs> I need get information from kismets packets
[00:22] <tbarturbo> tell you wat if u have a second i might dc... but will be back with my pcmcia card...
[00:22] <BehiiMehii> How do I figure out what's lagging the computer?:/
[00:22] <kevin__> How would I go about setting up a USB connected printer in Xubuntu?
[00:23] <TheEagle> you might what?
[00:23] <tom__> theeagle sorry about that
[00:23] <rbs-tito> BehiiMehii: system > adminsitration > system monitor tells you which processes are using resources
[00:23] <lesshaste_> XxValetexX, I worry about any app without its own irc channel :)
[00:24] <soldats> BehiiMehii, open system monitor and see if anything is not responding or is using too much memory
[00:24] <tom__> theeagle <<<tbarturbo...
[00:24] <TheEagle> i gathered!
[00:24] <jmoncayo> hello anyone here has an hp laptop tx1000 series ???? i need some help
[00:24] <TheEagle> what are you going to do? dc? whats that mean?
[00:24] <tom__> theeagle disconnect... urm ok scrap that idea the new laptop doesnt take the pcmcia card:O
[00:25] <xobius> kevin__, http://localhost:631 if you have cups installed
[00:25] <tom__> whats express card 54
[00:25] <TheEagle> no idea
[00:25] <kevin__> xobius: I've tried, it confused me.
[00:25] <wols> tom__: a pretty meaningless marketing name
[00:25] <tom__> damn i need a usb adapter then
[00:26] <tom__> HELP MY LAPTOP has no PCMCIA slot now im going to smash it with a big hammer:P:P
[00:26] <xobius> kevin__, what printer have you got?
[00:26] <kevin__> Brother HL-1440.
[00:26] <kevin__> I have the PPD for it too.
[00:27] <xobius> then, what is the problem?
[00:28] <JohnMcRiii> hi @ all
[00:28] <`LePGeL[BoY]> hi too
[00:28] <`LePGeL[BoY]> hehehee
[00:28] <alberto_gs> anyone here used kismet?
[00:29] <JohnMcRiii> my kubuntu needs about 10 minutes to boot on my thinkpad x24 (1,13 ghz with 684 mb ram) ...what can i doo?! (while waiting these 8 minutes the screen is black)
[00:29] <xiodioxider> First time user on ubuntu. Where can i get drivers to my nvidia x1600 card?
[00:29] <tbarturbo> theeagle back lol this sux
[00:29] <wols> JohnMcRiii: remove the "quiet" on the kernel line in menu.lst
[00:29] <soldats> !nvidia > xiodioxider
[00:29] <wols> then you can see where it hangs
[00:29] <xiodioxider> "nvidia
[00:29] <xiodioxider> !nvidia
[00:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:29] <JohnMcRiii> where can i find the menu.lst?
[00:30] <slipttees> google=>source-o-matic
[00:30] <wols> xiodioxider: you sure it's a "x1600" card? nvidia doesn't make such a card or chip
[00:30] <wols> JohnMcRiii: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:30] <tritium> JohnMcRiii: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:30] <JohnMcRiii> thanks!
[00:30] <JohnMcRiii> i'll try it
[00:30] <TheEagle> lol
[00:30] <tbarturbo> theeagle time to try some soothing 3d desktops lol
[00:31] <slipttees> /boot/grub/menu.lst~
[00:31] <TheEagle> hehe
[00:31] <[revamped]> how can i get the new drive location in root terminal
[00:31] <galacticone> anyone know anything about the b43 firmware for the broadcom cards?
[00:31] <[revamped]> what exactly is the command
[00:31] <TheEagle> tbarturbo: how much do you know about computers?
[00:31] <kevin__> xobius:  It won't work.
[00:31] <[revamped]> like if i have to switch it to my F songs drive
[00:31] <[revamped]> from root
[00:31] <galacticone> is it better than bcm43xx?
[00:31] <galacticone> the version 3 firmware that is
[00:32] <tbarturbo> Theeagle i know zilch lol i use it to research mad car project/ebay/email and porn:P
[00:32] <wols> galacticone: there is no "b43 firmware"
[00:32] <TheEagle> lol
[00:32] <wols> galacticone: the firmware is what broadcom gives you via their driver, that doesN't change
[00:32] <TheEagle> what made you choose ubunut?
[00:32] <galacticone> yes there is http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[00:32] <[revamped]> anyone know my answer ? :(
[00:33] <tritium> TheEagle, tbarturbo: #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat, please
[00:33] <wols> [revamped]: impossible to answer with the info you gave
[00:33] <galacticone> it seems to be saying otherwise
[00:33] <jmoncayo> anyone here has a hp pavilion tx1000 laptop?
[00:34] <tbarturbo> tritium theeagle no worries im off anyway, thanx for trying dude
[00:34] <wols> galacticone: firmware and drivers are very different things
[00:34] <galacticone> b43 offers a newer codebase and hardware crypto support. Broadcom did not release any version 4 firmware files for some older boards, possibly due to memory constraints on the cards themselves.
[00:34] <TheEagle> ok
[00:34] <TheEagle> bye
[00:34] <memmmoww> !ask can compiz i have ubuntu, another thing i have a prob with my wireless network, it connects for a short time then it will not connect again
[00:34] <xobius> kevin__, how did you add that printer?
[00:35] <Reggi1> I have a question, i am going to use Ubuntu as a server for a game called Netrek, i was wondering if ubuntu is good for this?
[00:36] <galacticone> I used this one and it didnt work For bcm43xx: 'sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o'
[00:36] <kevin__> xobius:  Typed the printer model name, host name for location, clicked continue.
[00:36] <galacticone> so I thought I might try this one For b43: 'sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o'
[00:36] <RogerBacon> damn, i just started a war on #vim concerning vim 'vs' emacs ...
[00:36] <kevin__> xobius: It was the next step in picking the device that vexed me.
[00:36] <xobius> kevin__, USB# ?
[00:36] <josspyker> galacticone: there are some problems with the latest kernel
[00:37] <pyrotix> Trying to get a lamp server to work, but port 80 is filtered/stealthed. I've set my router to DMZ to my internal IP which ifconfig gave as .103, and I installed firestarter and told it to accept inbound connections on ports 80 and 81 from everyone, but shieldsup still says I'm stealthed. Grauggh. Anyone have an idea?
[00:37] <xobius> if cups detect the prnter it is add to the select
[00:37] <kevin__> xobius:  No USB option.
[00:37] <galacticone> ok
[00:38] <galacticone> has anyone ever used this? bcm43xx-sprom
[00:38] <tarvid> any hints on getting cron to run scripts?
[00:38] <galacticone> for permanently changing the mac address
[00:39] <xobius> kevin__, in my case it is EPSON Stylus CX3900 USB #1 (EPSON Stylus CX3900)
[00:39] <RogerBacon> what is the funniest way to crash / delete a ubuntu system ? (I want to reinstall it anyway from scratch) thanks.
[00:39] <xobius> kevin__,  there is anythings similar?
[00:39] <xtknight> RogerBacon, delete libc :D
[00:39] <tarvid> 00,15,30,45 * * * * /home/lsnet/public_html/ls.net/scripts/cron-curl.sh
[00:40] <xobius> kevin__, have you the printer turn on?
[00:40] <kevin__> xobius:  Yep.
[00:41] <alberto_gs> i need to read information from .dump files
[00:41] <xobius> kevin__, can you do sudo lsusb ?
[00:41] <Reggi1> .dump files you can probably open with your text editor
[00:42] <Reggi1> RogerBacon, reformat
[00:43] <kevin__> xobius:  Bus 005 Device 003: ID 13b1:000e Linksys
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 058f:9360 Alcor Micro Corp.
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:0920 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:43] <kevin__> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:43] <lesshaste_> is amule available for ubuntu?
[00:43] <Reggi1> If you want a fun way to reformat, take a 20 lb sledge to your hard drive :-P
[00:43] <lesshaste_> or is there something better?
[00:43] <[revamped]>  what i have to type on ubuntu gnome terminal if i have to change the drive
[00:43] <[revamped]>  what i have to type on ubuntu gnome terminal if i have to change the drive
[00:44] <wols> !paste | kevin__
[00:44] <ubotu> kevin__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:44] <mattholimea1> WOW i like this ubuntu
[00:44] <wols> [revamped]: cd
[00:44] <mOrO^> mattholimea1, you like KDE even better
[00:44] <memmmoww> !java
[00:44] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[00:44] <Reggi1> [revamped], cd (drive or directory(s))
[00:44] <XxValetexX> mOrO^: oh how about KDE 4 ;o
[00:45] <XxValetexX> mOrO^: I hear its gonna be released in a couple of weeks
[00:45] <memmmoww> !irc
[00:45] <[revamped]> wols : cd ? and ?
[00:45] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[00:45] <mOrO^> XxValetexX, I havent tried it yet... when they release it, I will lock and load :)
[00:45] <XxValetexX> mOrO^: me too :X
[00:45] <Reggi1> is KDE Gnome?
[00:45] <Delvien> whats a good PCMCIA card that actually works in linux ?
[00:45] <Delvien> err
[00:45] <Benalex> [revamped]: if you want to change to drive C: type cd /media/sda1
[00:45] <Delvien> PCMCIA wifi card*
[00:45] <Flannel> Reggi1: no
[00:46] <XxValetexX> Reggi1: they are both Desktop Enviroments
[00:46] <XxValetexX> Reggi1: you usually have one or another :o
[00:46] <wols> [revamped]: no one can tell cause no one knows if the directory you want to go to (ubuntu has no "driveletters") is already mounted and which one it actually is. we cannot know
[00:46] <tarvid> Delvien, I use an 8470 WD Orinoco
[00:46] <Reggi1> I think i like gnome better
[00:46] <Benalex> [revamped]: for list for your already mounted volumes type mount
[00:46] <tarvid> It has an external antenna port which comes in handy when signal is weak
[00:46] <kevin__> xobius: It's not listed.
[00:46] <XxValetexX> Reggi1: =)
[00:46] <mOrO^> Reggi1, you probably wear tan clothing, and lead a drab life
[00:46] <Delvien> tarvid any messed up installation for that ? this belkin actually got FRIED installing the drivers
[00:46] <jameswf-home> xo
[00:46] <xobius> kevin__, tell my the website of that printer
[00:47] <XxValetexX> mOrO^: I am acutally using gnome too
[00:47] <lesshaste_> is amule available for ubuntu?
[00:47] <lesshaste_> or is there something better?
[00:47] <kevin__> xobius:  What do you mean?
[00:47] <XxValetexX> mOrO^: tryed to make it more suse-like, with no success :p
[00:47] <tarvid> Delvien, there has been much noise about the madwifi drivers but mine works fine
[00:47] <Reggi1> Well, Gnome looks good compared to JWM, which Puppy Linux uses
[00:47] <tarvid> Delvien, I tried every card at Walmart and returned the whole bunch
[00:47] <xobius> kevin__, where I can see the model of the printer
[00:48] <Delvien> tarvid bought mine at wal mart, its a rip off
[00:48] <[revamped]> Reggil : it didnt worked
[00:48] <Abyssal> hi, anyone got the following scanner HP scanjet 3800? i got a question.
[00:48] <tarvid> Delvien, I have a few frisbees (Prism) but the atheros works better for me
[00:48] <Tamale> can someone help me with automount?  my new sansa e260 mounts as "read only" when I plug it in.
[00:48] <Delvien> tarvid i had to install because of my graphics card.. the card was working with the SAME instructions i used last install now its not
[00:48] <tarvid> Delvien, there are more expensive cards with higher power but I haven't tried those
[00:49] <Reggi1> [revamped], you must put /mnt/(drive)
[00:49] <Delvien> tarvid madwifi , will that work on all cards?
[00:49] <nuGz> can i buy cedega with paypal?
[00:49] <lesshaste_> how can I get the power manager icon to reappear? It has gone for some reason on my laptop
[00:49] <wols> nuGz: ask cedega not ubuntu
[00:49] <tarvid> Delvien, no it is atheros specific. The Orinoco cards used to try and work with atheros but the results were poor
[00:49] <kevin__> http://www.brother-usa.com/
[00:49] <xobius> kevin__, I don't that printer. I want to know how it is
[00:49] <Reggi1> [revamped], you must know the name of the drive as put by Ubuntu, like sda1, not the name you see
[00:50] <xobius> kevin__,  thanks
[00:50] <Delvien> tarvid ah
[00:50] <lesshaste_> I can't tell how much battery power I have left :)
[00:50] <kevin__> xobius:  I don't think they sell it anymore though.
[00:50] <tarvid> I solved my stupid cron problem, the stupid part was me, I hate that
[00:50] <edmund> hi, i am havinf a problem connected via ssh to a localbox. the odd thing is that when i try to ping it it says destination unreachable, and that message origonates from my computer? is ubuntu blocking it for some reason?
[00:50] <Reggi1> tarvid, me too, i hate problems that i cause
[00:50] <nuGz> wols theres no1 in that channel
[00:50] <Tamale> can someone help me with gnome's automount?  my new sansa e260 was mounting as "read only" when I plug it in, so I added the "-w" option to gnome's options for automounting of that volume and now it won't mount at all.
[00:51] <Benalex> Tamale: -w or -rw?
[00:51] <Reggi1> Tamale, you need to put -mw
[00:51] <nickrud> lesshaste, system->preferences->power management, you may have it set to only show when power is critically low
[00:51] <wols> nuGz: this is still the wrong channel to ask. ask cedega.com, not us, how they sell their proprietary software
[00:52] <Tamale> Benalex: I tried -w
[00:52] <Tamale> Reggi1: I don't know how I can get that page back now
[00:52] <lesshaste_> nickrud, what's the command line?
[00:52] <Abyssal> how can i search for certain topics in xchat grone?
[00:52] <JCK> i created a torrent using ktorrent and i wanted to upload the files but it is giving me permission denied when it points to the files in the temporary directory
[00:52] <Abyssal> gnome
[00:52] <Tamale> Reggi1: I right clicked on the volume and added the option under its properties page
[00:52] <Tamale> Reggi1: Where is that saved?
[00:52] <nickrud> lesshaste, gnome-power-preferences
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: easiest thing to do, is "/msg ubotu" no quotes.
[00:52] <persen> HELP! All my keys requires 1 second push to register with my kubuntu feistsy! any tips?
[00:52] <Reggi1> Tamale, that just came off the top of my head, idk if it will really work
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> persen: get a new keyboard
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:53] <Reggi1> Tamale, it saves it in /mnt i think
[00:53] <tarvid> Delvien, http://cgi.ebay.com/ORiNOCO-802-11g-8470-Wireless-GOLD-PCMCIA-W-ANT-PORT_W0QQitemZ250201246135QQihZ015QQcategoryZ45000QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[00:53] <Tamale> Reggi1: nothing in /mnt
[00:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Would anyone here know how to translate this page http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/trust_320  I have tried google translator with the 'French to English' option but it just returns a blank page??
[00:53] <thedefender> !pastebin
[00:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:53] <persen> happend suddenly. same with usb keyboard.
[00:53] <JCK> i created a torrent using ktorrent and i wanted to upload the files but it is giving me permission denied when it points to the files in the temporary directory
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> tarvid: i would say for a 1.00, there's a VERY good chance that card doesn't work.
[00:54] <Reggi1> Tamale, i think it saves it on the drive, u must restart Ubuntu probably for it to take affect
[00:54] <persen> IndyGunFreak, no,its not hardware.
[00:54] <persen> plz
[00:54] <tarvid> pcmcia is obsolete. I have used a dozen or so of this model and everyone still works
[00:54] <Tamale> Reggi1: That doesn't make any sense.  This is saved somewhere on the computer..
[00:54] <nickrud> Tamale, you can kill that sansa setting with   gconftool --recursive-unset /system/storage/volumes  . That will remove any custom settings for any device, though
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> persen: it was a joke....
[00:54] <Reggi1> Someone correct me if im wrong
[00:54] <Delvien> tarvid lol umm i think i was using the wrong ID for the card .... lolo if thats it im gonna go jump off the ledge
[00:54] <Tamale> nickrud: Thank you.. I'll use gconftool and look under that path
[00:55] <nickrud> Tamale, gconf-editor will let you view that path, yes
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> persen: i don't know about KDE, but in Gnome, in System/Preferneces, there is a Keyboard configurator, and you can set the delay on the keys, etc... that might be your issue.
[00:55] <Tamale> nickrud: Thank you.. it's tere
[00:55] <Reggi1> /nickrud, there is probably a way to specify one drive instead of all the drives?
[00:55] <xobius> kevin__, look at this http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html
[00:55] <Tamale> nickrud: Do you know if I can force it to mount read/write?
[00:56] <persen> this is bullshit.where can i adjust keyboard settings?
[00:56] <nickrud> Reggi1, yes, but you have to know what hal device it was registered as, using gconf-editor and navigating there can be useful as well.
[00:56] <Isola> Good evening to ya all! I just installed the desktop version of Ubuntu 7.10 truth the Live Cd > Instal option. I just rebooted my system(as the installation told me to) and now instead of looking at the beautyful KDE interface im in Busybox commandline shell. How do i get the wheels moving? xD
[00:56] <Eroick> Is Hardy usable?
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> Tamale: i had that player, and i can't remember what I done, but it required a fair amount of hoop jumping.
[00:56] <nickrud> Tamale, and no, I don't
[00:56] <Delvien> tarvad LOL it was, i put in xxxx:107f instead of :701F
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> persen: no, whats BS, si your'e asking int he wrong room, ask in #kubuntu
[00:56] <Tamale> IndyGunFreak: Hmm.
[00:56] <Tamale> it's weird, the player let me add a few tracks fine at first
[00:56] <Spzatt> Anyone: I'm getting this error when starting up ubuntu hda: Timeout waiting for DMA ; What can i do?
[00:56] <Tamale> now I can't make any changes
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> Tamale: didn't ahve trouble getting it to mount, but i had a lot of issues adding music.
[00:57] <xobius> kevin__, what model is your printer?
[00:57] <Tamale> what's the command to mount read/write
[00:57] <Tamale> man pages seem to suggest just adding -w
[00:57] <Tamale> but that didn't work...
[00:57] <Spzatt> Anyone: I'm getting this error when starting up ubuntu hda: Timeout waiting for DMA ; What can i do?
[00:57] <tarvid> Spzatt, sounds like a hardware problem to me, you can turn DMA off but the performance will be horrible
[00:57] <nickrud> Reggi1, I usually give that recursive unset for all, most people only have one custom setting in my experience, and have screwed the pooch on the mount point
[00:57] <Reggi1> Spzatt, it sounds like that one of your hard drives is taking too long to respond to Ubuntu
[00:57] <Spzatt> tarvid, what do you mean?
[00:57] <Spzatt> How can i fix it?
[00:58] <XxValetexX> Spzatt: use windows
[00:58] <XxValetexX> xD
[00:58] <Task> hey nickrud
[00:58] <Task> you here?
[00:58]  * XxValetexX prepares to be killed
[00:58] <Spzatt> ha-ha, very funny
[00:58] <Spzatt> nub
[00:58] <tarvid> Spzatt, its either the controller or the drive. Run the manufacturers short test.
[00:58] <Delvien> I have an old IBM r40 laptop with a ATI 7500 radeon in it. in a previous install restricted driver manager was able to install my Vid card, but this time it has been unable to identify my card, anyone help ?
[00:58] <Spzatt> Where can i find that?
[00:58] <nickrud> Task, nah, it's my doppleganger tonight
[00:58] <Spzatt> Windows works fine.
[00:58] <tarvid> Spzatt, SMART will also tell you but I haven't gotten that to work in Linux for ages
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | Delvien
[00:59] <ubotu> Delvien: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:59] <tarvid> Spzatt, check the BIOS settings first
[00:59] <Reggi1> Spzatt, Ubuntu might not support your hard drive model or somthing, ive had this happen once before, i changed the Hard Drive and all went well
[00:59] <Spzatt> tarvid: It worked before, just a random day. it wouldnt work
[00:59] <Task> http://bensbargains.net/deal/52585/?referrer=rss
[00:59] <Task> what you think about the 8600 GT?
[01:00] <Task> I just sold my ATI Radeon 1600 for $100 its worth 200
[01:00] <Task> but I wanna get a nvidia cuz I wanna stay with this OS and hell with windows
[01:00] <tarvid> Spzatt, try # hdparm -I /dev/sda1
[01:00] <new2KDE> hello, i have been using linux (ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10) for about a year now and recently wanted to switch from gnome to KDE so i switched to suse 10.3 i am just wondering if Kubuntu's delivery of KDE is any better or easier than suse?
[01:00] <tarvid> Spzatt, or /dev/hda1 if PATA
[01:00] <nickrud> Task, if I was to buy a video card, it would either be a cheap old nvidia, or the 8800. Not one of those half baked ones with the 128 bit channel instead of 320bit
[01:01] <Spzatt> Can you join #Spzatt ? I am having some problems reading what you say
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> Task: do you need dual screen, vga, dvi, etc?.. what do you actually need in a card
[01:01] <Groovestix> hey folks! anyone every installed ubuntu through the minimal CD ?
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> Groovestix: I have.
[01:01] <Benalex> new2KDE: I believe ubuntu is the easiest whatever WM is :)
[01:01] <Task> Something good with Games
[01:01] <Reggi1> Spzatt, Ubuntu might not be creating a mount point for your hard drive
[01:01] <Task> Thats all I care... and maybe a Svideo out so I can watch the movies I get on tv
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> Task: well, Linux pretty much sucks for games....
[01:02] <Task> :-/
[01:02] <Task> it does?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> Task: most games are Windows games.
[01:02] <lesshaste_> the screensaver seems to completely kill the computer
[01:02] <Task> Yeh... I am running through Wine
[01:02] <lesshaste_> well it blanks the screen and you can't get it back again
[01:02] <Reggi1> Task, Linux has no gaming market
[01:02] <lesshaste_> is this common?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> Task: wine is very hit/miss, mostly miss.
[01:02] <new2KDE> also i have an ati video card and ubuntu 7.10 had great drivers for me but suse is crap will kubuntu have the same great drivers for me?
[01:03] <pyrotix> Trying to get port 80 open but its filtered/stealthed. I've set my router to redirect to my internal IP, and I installed firestarter and told it to accept inbound connections on ports 80 and 81 from everyone, but according to shieldsup I'm still stealthed. Grauggh. Anyone have an idea?
[01:03] <Reggi1> Task, if you get wine to run your game u will have poor performance
[01:03] <Benalex> !ati | new2KDE
[01:03] <ubotu> new2KDE: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Task: best thing to do, is dual boot if you want to game...
[01:03] <Delvien> IndyGunFreak thats the problem my restricted-manager isnt showing i can install ATI drivers, but when i lspci ATI radeon shows up
[01:03] <lesshaste_> Task, well..some games work well in wine :)
[01:03] <nuGz> how do i install Tahoma.tff?
[01:03] <nuGz> what file do i install it to?
[01:03] <lesshaste_> Task, is there something specific you want
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Delvien: so follow the steps
[01:03] <Abyssal> can anyone tell me a good website where to find different software for ubuntu?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: in the repositories?
[01:04] <new2KDE> when i installed ubuntu 7.10 my drivers and everything just worked.. will that happen with kubuntu?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: what kind fo software are you looking for.
[01:04] <dn4ia> does anyone know of some software which models magnetic fields?
[01:04] <goldphish> I'm still trying to build my own kernel package. I think I have the kernel image and header packages built properly but I'm having a problem building the linux-restricted-modules package. My kernel package is called 'linux-headers-2.6.22.9-goldphish_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb'. What do I set the abi version to?
[01:04] <shadylookin> apt is the best place to get them since their already packaged
[01:04] <Task> Well damn.... I wanted something that wasnt windows... and well I wanted to play the one game I love counter strike
[01:04] <Task> :-/
[01:04] <Reggi1> pyrotix, do you have another firewall?
[01:04] <nuGz> task try cedega
[01:04] <lesshaste_> new2KDE, on the same computer? Most likely
[01:04] <Abyssal> like a new mp3 player.
[01:04] <Task> what is that?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Task: it might work, but there's a good chance
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: are you talking about like an IPOD, or like a program to play mp3s?
[01:05] <lesshaste_> Task, are you sure counter strike won't work in linux?
[01:05] <nuGz> task-its supposed to run cs a lot faster
[01:05] <slliness> how do I check what version of reiserfs I have?
[01:05] <Task> I dont know... everyone installs wine to play it
[01:05] <pyrotix> Reggi1: ?? I've got a router, and then I've got kubuntu's built in iptables. I'm not aware of any other layer I could have
[01:05] <Task> ok nugz
[01:05] <Benalex> nuGz: in terminal type sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[01:05] <TwoD_> Runing games through Wine does not automatically mean poor performance! I play HL2 without much problems (biggest is no AntiAliasing). It's definately worth a try, not to mention you might learn a thing or two while doing it ;)
[01:05] <Task> nuGz I have to uninstall wine?
[01:06] <lesshaste_> Task, ok.. have you tried it with wine?
[01:06] <Benalex> new2KDE: sure
[01:06] <nuGz> benalex:how do i install just 1 font ? tahoma.tff?
[01:06] <Task> TwoD_ What kinda vid card you got?
[01:06] <new2KDE> well from my expirience ubuntu is more stable but suse is easier but that is my gnome ubuntu and my kde suse im just trying to figure out if i go with kubuntu if i will get the stability of ubuntu AND the ease of use of suse maybe its just kde that is easier?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: are you looking for a program to play mp3s you have on your computer, or are you looking for something to support an MP3 player, like an IPOD
[01:06] <lesshaste_> Task, well it looks like it works great in wine http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=871
[01:06] <Task> Yeah... but with onboard video
[01:06] <lesshaste_> Task, did you try it?
[01:06] <slliness> in the installer what is the diff between reisersfs and reiserfs4 in the installer
[01:06] <nuGz> task:not really sure check there website www.transgaming.com
[01:06] <Task> and its choppy cuz the onboard
[01:06] <slliness> -in the installer
[01:07] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: a program to play mp3s. like freeamp. www.freeamp.org is not available anymore.
[01:07] <Reggi1> pyrotex, im out of ideas unless you have not rebooted your router
[01:07] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: but generally a good linux software website would be fine.
[01:07] <TwoD_> Task, I've got a GeForce 7800 GTX. Check out appdb.winehq.org for info about how well apps run in Wine. (Remember that it depends on your setup a lot too)
[01:07] <Task> TwoD_ whats your FPS while playing in it?
[01:07] <lesshaste_> Task, what is the problem when you run it in wine?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> !player | Abyssal all of these are in the repositories, which is the best place to check for new programs
[01:07] <ubotu> Abyssal all of these are in the repositories, which is the best place to check for new programs: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[01:07] <TwoD_> Task, I haven't measured
[01:08] <lesshaste_> Task, My feeling is that lots and lots of people are playing counter strike on linux in wine happily
[01:08] <lesshaste_> Task, you too could be one of them :)
[01:08] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: thank you.
[01:08] <Task> :)
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i really like Audacious, but ymmv
[01:08] <ahimaj> does anyone know how secure linux is regarding spam and viruses
[01:08] <stephans> why does ubuntu only see 3.0 GIG of mem when I have 4?
[01:08] <mame> Hi. I have installed so many programs over time onto this laptop and I don't use 95% of them. Is there an easy way to un-install the programs and the associated .deb files? I would like to really reclaim my HardDrive.
[01:08] <Benalex> nuGz: http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php#2
[01:08] <lesshaste_> stephans, 1 GB for kernel and 3 for user?
[01:08] <ahimaj> i know that because of the way it is setup it is damned hard for spywware and viruses to infiltrate anything of importance
[01:09] <Reggi1> stephans, does windows show 4 gigs?
[01:09] <lesshaste_> stephans, pretty good
[01:09] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: what is ymmv?
[01:09] <bewkard> does anyone know if there is a channel for partimage?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: your mileage may vary.. ;)
[01:09] <lesshaste_> stephans, of course you have to set things up sensibly and remember to do your updates
[01:09] <lesshaste_> Task, are you here?
[01:09] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: mileage?
[01:09] <Task> Sorry
[01:09] <Task> readin
[01:09] <shadylookin> also i thought 32 bit only recognizes 3gigs so if you're using 32bit that could be why(might just be with windows though)
[01:09] <ahimaj> mame--just use sudo-apt get uninstall
[01:09] <Sier> YMMV == I always wondered what that means :) I found out a couple days ago.
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: in other words, i like audacious, but you may not.
[01:09] <ahimaj> followed by program name
[01:09] <Benalex> mame: system/administration/synaptic manager... mark packages for Complete Removal
[01:10] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: ok.
[01:10] <TwoD_> Task, Wine Is Not an Emulator, it's more a reimplementation of the Windows/DirectX API on Linux/OpenGL. Theoretically you should have nearly the same fps. Practically, Wine's not yet complete and there are are always some drawbacks when trying to reimplement things on that scale.
[01:10] <lesshaste_> Task, ok... did you actually try counter strike in wine?
[01:10] <Reggi1> shadylookin, i think thats only with vista
[01:10] <bewkard> i tried 'list"  but then my irc client locks up and i have to force a close
[01:10] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: there is no conflict if i install more audio progs?
[01:10] <Task> Yeah
[01:10] <lesshaste_> Task, I see people are getting over 100fps.. how many do you need ? :)
[01:10] <Elda> Quick question.... what is the name of the partition tool in linux?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: there shoudln't be, i have several.
[01:10] <Dr_willis> 1000000 fps. :)
[01:10] <Task> It jumps from like 20fps-45fps
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> and always have had numerous ones
[01:10] <Task> Only 60 +
[01:11] <Elda> Am going to format my hard drive, since Im going to break it up into 53 for linux 53 for windows and 4 for shared
[01:11] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: several? :-(
[01:11] <Benalex> bewkard: to search for a channel on different networks use www.searchirc.com
[01:11] <TwoD_> Task, latest Wine version, compiz disabled, HL2.exe set to win98 mode and dxlevel 80?
[01:11] <lesshaste_> Task, sounds like you could be in luck then... follow the tips on the page I sent you
[01:11] <Benalex> Elda: there is many.. the most common is gparted
[01:11] <shadylookin> i believe gparted is a partition tool
[01:11] <slliness> Elda, there are many but best I have found is gparted
[01:11] <Elda> I mean that comes with the boot Ubuntu boot disk
[01:11] <bewkard> Benalex: ty, i'll try it now
[01:11] <goldphish> Can someone explain what the versions in this filename are? linux-headers-2.6.22.9-goldphish_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[01:11] <Task> ok is the nvidia geforce 7600 gs (agp) Better then the nvidia geforce 8600GT PCI-e ?
[01:12] <Task> just wondering if anyone knows off top their head
[01:12] <slliness> lol Benalex
[01:12] <Elda> gparted is on the ubuntu disk?  As Im running atm on the disk
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i have Audacious, Amarok, Banshee, and Rhythmbox.., all fo them work fine.. for a small player, i like Audacious, for a kind of Full featured program, I like Rhythmbox, and for managing an Ipod, I like Amarko and Banshee
[01:12] <hou5ton> when I make a new file, is the "locate" command somehow updated immediately, or is it scheduled, or do I need to update it manually?
[01:12] <Task> nickrud you said something about a 130 bit?
[01:12] <Task> lesshaste thanks :)
[01:12] <lesshaste_> Task, also #winehq has wine experts :)
[01:12] <goldphish> Sorry my wireless connection decided to take a dump. Can someone explain what the versions in this filename are? linux-headers-2.6.22.9-goldphish_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[01:12] <Reggi1> elda. gparted is on the boot disk
[01:12] <Administrator_> good morning
[01:12] <lesshaste_> Task, good luck and let us know how it goes
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Elda: if its not, youc an install it, but gparted doesn't seem to work right w/ Gutsy, least thats been my experience
[01:12] <ahimaj> when will wine be complete
[01:12] <TwoD_> Elda, why the shared? Ubuntu can read/write ntfs partitions just fine...
[01:12] <Delvien>  IndyGunFreak yeah that didnt work :P
[01:13] <Dr_willis> hou5ton,  locagte uses the updatedb database.. thats updates automaticially once a day. You can run 'sudo updatedb' to update it  right now.
[01:13] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: you can also manage a creative music player with an audio program? (ZEN Micro Photo player?)
[01:13] <slliness> Elda, you can download a 50 meg livecd of gparted by itself till you know for sure what you would like to do
[01:13] <rave1> hi
[01:13] <hou5ton> Dr_willis:   thanks much
[01:13] <Task> lesshaste :)
[01:13] <xobius> kevin__, perhaps is this http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/linux_faq-2.html#120
[01:13] <Benalex> Elda: in terminal type sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:13] <TwoD_> ahimaj, when it's done I guess ;) They're on version 0.9.52 now, and there's still a long way to go.
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i would think Amarok would manage it fine..... or Banshee, if you want to stick with Gnome programs
[01:13] <pyrotix> Trying to get a lamp server to work, but port 80 is filtered/stealthed. I've set my router to DMZ to my internal IP which ifconfig gave as .103, and I installed firestarter and told it to accept inbound connections on ports 80 and 81 from everyone, but shieldsup still says I'm stealthed. Grauggh. Anyone have an idea?
[01:13] <rave1> hey guys could someone help me to install a file with the .deb ending
[01:13] <ahimaj> eh--doesn't matter really
[01:13] <Delvien> Abyssal have you tried Exaile!?
[01:13] <ahimaj> not into games--and I can get linux to run everything else
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> rave1: double click it.
[01:14] <Dr_willis> rave1,  sudo dpkg -i whateer.deb
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> Delvien: Abyssal i forgota bout exaile.. its pretty good.
[01:14] <voltHeir_afk> ravel1: dpkg -i
[01:14] <ahimaj> so, how secure is linux
[01:14] <Abyssal> delvien: what is exaile?
[01:14] <rave1> i did but it says error something with build essential
[01:14] <jmoncayo> hey guys when seting up a wireless connection from a laptop it says WPA2 personal or enterprise, if in the AP its wpa2 pre-shared key mixed, what should i choose?
[01:14] <ahimaj> from the way it's set up, it seems it's impossible for viruses or spyware to get in
[01:14] <shadylookin> linux doesn't work with most windows games
[01:14] <slliness> Elda, then install to your partitions later just go to sourceforge and get iso and answer default to every after boot unless you have diff keyboard or something
[01:14] <ahimaj> cus they need the appropriate permissions
[01:14] <Delvien> Abyssal  GTK amarok ripoff :)
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal:  a gnome program for managing mp3 players..
[01:14] <Abyssal> is it also in the repository?
[01:14] <ahimaj> but, maybe there is something I don't know about
[01:14] <Reggi1> ahimaj, almost invincible
[01:14] <ahimaj> have there been any cases of viruses seeping in
[01:14] <Administrator_> linux is not for playing
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> Delvien: its a poor ripoff..lol, Amarok is awesome.
[01:14] <Delvien> abyssal not as good as amarok, but its GTK , yes "sudo apt-get install exaile"
[01:14] <ahimaj> only one's I can think of is when someone is in root
[01:15] <rave1> the file is on my desktop how do i get there with the terminal?
[01:15] <shadylookin> you can't get viruses in the Microsoft way because programs require permission to install
[01:15] <Delvien> IndyGunFreak As I agree, I hate QT apps, so amarok to me is not an option
[01:15] <ahimaj> and decides to go to some crap website
[01:15] <ahimaj> I agree shady
[01:15] <jkfldsjkflds> yes, QT apps blow chunks
[01:15] <TwoD_> pyrotix, does the router forward connections on the router's port 80 to your port 80? Don't remember if DMZ does all that automatically, but I think it should.
[01:15] <th0r> rave1 /home/rave1/Desktop
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> Delvien: well, Amarok and Ktorrent, are the only two I use..., cuz I think Amarok smokes Banshee/Exaille.., so thats what i use.
[01:15] <rave1> with cd in front? im totally new to linux
[01:15] <Abyssal> i think i will try all of them. :-)
[01:15] <Elda> I have a Toshiba System Volume which is taking an extra gigabyte, is that deletable?  Or should I keep that
[01:15] <ahimaj> shady: couldn't a program just dance around in your system
[01:15] <slliness> Elda, http://download.tuxfamily.org/gpartedlive/ its like a better free version of partition magic
[01:15] <Delvien> IndyGunFreak Banshee is horrid, they have poor support, and their player is bbuggy as Ill get out.
[01:16] <ahimaj> without wreaking havoc per se
[01:16] <Elda> Gparted is working fine for me
[01:16] <Delvien> Indygunfreak i use deluge for torrents, its gtk , and its like azureus
[01:16] <Benalex> Elda: you should keep it in case of emergency... although it contains only windows
[01:16] <ahimaj> but it's just there, trying to gain access to important files, and being denied because it doesn't have the appropriate permissions
[01:16] <rave1> th0r : ok im there now
[01:16] <shadylookin> well if you intentionally install it then yes you can have "bad programs" but you can also remove them with ease
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> i hate deluge and azureus...lol, thank goodness for choice.
[01:16] <Elda> ah okey
[01:16]  * Elda <3s azureus >.>
[01:16] <Abyssal> after "sudo apt-get install exaile" exaile is fully installed?
[01:16] <pyrotix> TwoD_ description for DMZ says it forwards all inbound connections not associated with another computer on the network to a certain internal IP
[01:16] <ahimaj> even if you install a bad program, can it do anything to your computer?
[01:17] <ahimaj> seems to me that even if you have malaware installed, it has no power whatsoever
[01:17] <webguy2214> anybody want to help me out with an apache php problem?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: did it ask you to hit Y, or something like that?
[01:17] <ahimaj> because anything of importance requires a password to access
[01:17] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: then if you selected yes, and its done running all that text, its installed.. look in Applications/Sound and Video
[01:17] <shadylookin> well if you install something with sudo it can do whatever it pleases including deleting /
[01:17] <TwoD_> pyrotix, ok as I thought then. Hmm, as long as 80 wasn't forwarded to any other comp, it should work... Weird...
[01:18] <ahimaj> yeah, that's what I thought
[01:18] <rave1> could someone help me i tried to open a .deb file but it says paket ..... is not installed and there are about 10 pakets not installed
[01:18] <ahimaj> in otherwords, you have to be stupid
[01:18] <slliness> Elda, if it is your backup for a toshiba system restore or emergency restore or whatever they rarely work anyway and as long as you know stuff about windows and have a win disc you could safely delete it
[01:18] <kbreit> If I install Kubuntu packages on top of a regular Ubuntu install, will I have the option of starting gnome or kde?
[01:18] <Thomas> hi, what command in terimanl makes a blank file?
[01:18] <ahimaj> and allow bad pieces of software to wreak havoc
[01:18] <slliness> Elda, if you have lots of space then don't
[01:18] <Administrator_> mkdir
[01:18] <ahimaj> but, nothing is going to install itself without your knowing about it
[01:19] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: yes. it is all installed. and there i can manage my mp3 data and transfer it onto my player and back?
[01:19] <shadylookin> well someone without knowledge can easily mess up if they use root for example some jerk gives a new guy dangerous commands
[01:19] <Thomas> but that makes a dic
[01:19] <webguy2214> my apache install wont parse php files when there called as the default index
[01:19] <Delvien> IndyGunFreak i hate ati so much... if this laptop wasnt free i would smash it.. Whats funny is ive reinstalled ubuntu three times on it, the first time i did everything worked like a charm, installed graphics in a couple clicks, now restricted-manager doesnt recognize it and the install the wiki told me to do fails horrindously,
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> kbreit: Yes, from the GDM
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: I *personally* don't like Exaile for managing an Mp3player, but yes, you should be able to.
[01:19] <rave1>  could someone help me i tried to open a .deb file but it says paket ..... is not installed and there are about 10 pakets not installed
[01:19] <Thomas> i want a file
[01:19] <JohnMcRiii> hi, it's me again...thanks for the help earlier
[01:19] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: thanks.
[01:19] <ahimaj> that makes sense
[01:19] <webguy2214> I can type http://myweb/index.php no problem, but http://myweb shows the text from the php file.
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i would recommend either sudo apt-get install amarok or sudo apt-get install banshee
[01:19] <rave1> (02:19:37) rave1: could someone help me i tried to open a .deb file but it says paket ..... is not installed and there are about 10 pakets not installed
[01:20] <ahimaj> but, no matter what you are doing online
[01:20] <ahimaj> if you are doing it as a user
[01:20] <ahimaj> and not as root
[01:20] <ahimaj> you are essentially invincible
[01:20] <Dr_willis> rave1,  if the package has dependencies. then you need to have all of them installed also.
[01:20] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: you always install via shell?
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: almost always, if you want a GUI, go to System/Admin/Synaptic Package manager
[01:20] <JohnMcRiii> whats the command to connect a windows network drive? - and can i automate this, so i dont need to enter the password everytime i rebooted the system?
[01:20] <shadylookin> yes you can spank it to all the bad porn on the internet and the bad people can't get to you
[01:20] <rave1> dr_willis how do i get them?
[01:20] <ahimaj> lol
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i've compiled a fwe programs froms oruce, but not many
[01:20] <Dr_willis> rave1,  thats normally the job the package manager handles..  you DONT normally download just  a .deb and install it. You use apt-get or so forth to install the proper things.
[01:20] <rave1> is there a huge pack with all the pakets i need
[01:20] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: i as a former other OS user prefer the window menu. :-)
[01:20] <ahimaj> i was thinking more along the lines of popups
[01:20] <TwoD_> rave1, the packet you're trying to install probably depends on those listed. Try installing them from Synaptic or type "sudo apt-get install packet_name
[01:21] <Dr_willis> rave1,  so what is if you are trying to install
[01:21] <slliness> !gparted
[01:21] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: then synaptic package manager is what you want...lol, open synaptic, and do a search for "banshee".. right click it and install it.
[01:21] <ahimaj> and people trying to get into your computer
[01:21] <shadylookin> firefox(default broswer) blocks almost all popups
[01:21] <ahimaj> i'm on a college network
[01:21] <rave1> can we go to private chat  its too many thnings going on here
[01:21] <Delvien> Abyssal i was too when i first started with linux.. You will grow out of it, now i cant live without a terminal
[01:21] <rave1> dr willis
[01:21]  * IndyGunFreak agrees with Delvien
[01:21] <Thomas> bye
[01:21] <critt> Duh question. But can I delete everthing in the tpm folder?
[01:21] <shadylookin> people can only remotely access your computer if they can get your password and ip address
[01:22] <critt> tmp
[01:22] <Eroick> is there a channel for Hardy?
[01:22] <ahimaj> so, can you download music and listen to it via user and not worry about viruses in the files
[01:22] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: oh i pro! :-)
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> !hardy | Eroick
[01:22] <ubotu> Eroick: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:22] <Benalex> Eroick: #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <Delvien> shadylookin not even then if you didnt install VNC ssh server, or activate remote desktop
[01:22] <rave1> dr_willis?
[01:22] <webguy2214> so, apache not parsing index files correctly anybody?
[01:22] <Eroick> thanks!
[01:22] <JohnMcRiii> sorry, but again :) : whats the command to connect a windows network drive? - and can i automate this, so i dont need to enter the password everytime i rebooted the system?
[01:22] <shadylookin> true, but ubuntu has ssh by default unless i'm mistaken
[01:23] <Dr_willis> rave1,  What is it you are trying to install?
[01:23] <rave1> envy
[01:23] <Delvien> shadylookin woops said that wrong  openssh-server, VNC, or remote desktop
[01:23] <hou5ton> so .... where is the directory and the files ??  I went to download a dictionary for StarDict, and it asked if I wanted to save it to disk or open it with the Archive Manager.  I just chose the defaul (Archive Manager) and it says it is done, but I can't find it anywhere .. using both locate and find commands.
[01:23] <Dr_willis> rave1,  egads..,. DONT even use envy
[01:23] <TwoD_> ahimaj, well, a virus could actually delete all the files in your home folder (and any other folder you have those permissions on), but you're not likely to get a virus in a music file, especially a Linux one...
[01:23] <Delvien> shadylookin nope it doesnt, only ubuntu-server, its an option on install
[01:23] <rave1> hehe why?
[01:23] <ahimaj> why not
[01:23] <Dr_willis> it can trash your system.. and in most cases is NOT needed
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: what Mp3 player did you say you had, a Zune?
[01:23] <ahimaj> if someone wants to do bad, they will
[01:23] <ahimaj> maybe they have a think against linux
[01:23] <ahimaj> *thing*
[01:23] <__mikem> Sansas are the best players you can get
[01:24] <rave1> but i know for sure manually installation doesnt work on my pc
[01:24] <shadylookin> well if there is no remote connection client you can't be hacked with it
[01:24] <rave1> my friend , a geek , allready tried
[01:24] <Dr_willis> rave1,  whats your video card anyway?
[01:24] <rave1> ati
[01:24] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: you are pros. my mp3 player was a creative.
[01:24] <rave1> ill just need it for wolfenstein et
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: i woudln't say i'm a pro, i've just learned by trial and error..lol
[01:24] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: creative micro photo
[01:25] <ahimaj> twoD: why is unlikely that you will get a virus in a music file
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: ok, the creatives generally work rpetty good under Linux.
[01:25] <hou5ton> ravel: agreed ... I tried Envy and it was 1. unnessesary, and 2. made the display not work at all ..... fortunately was able to just use the backup
[01:25] <shadylookin> you can't get a virus from an mp3 file since it's not an executable
[01:25] <rave1> you know my problem about the missing pakages dr_willis.. i just came till there ..you think it already damaged my system?
[01:25] <shadylookin> same for almost every file
[01:25] <ahimaj> what files CAN you get viruses from
[01:25] <critt> I have a Sansa But can't get the pics or video to Load on it without the converter software that comes with it using linx
[01:25] <ahimaj> executables don't run in linux
[01:25] <TwoD_> ahimaj, I'm not saying there won't ever be a Linux virus. Just that there's not much point in creating one, for the reasons you stated before. Besides, I don't know of any well known viruses that have been embedded in music files etc. As long as you don't do something very unusual, you're safe.
[01:26] <shadylookin> I'm not aware of any viruses built for linux
[01:26] <ahimaj> i'm not scared per se
[01:26] <Benalex> shadylookin: I remember a virus called ILoveYou.vbs was targeting mp3
[01:26] <ahimaj> just curious
[01:26] <ahimaj> I backup to two different sources, so it would take a lot to wipe me out
[01:26] <yclian> I-love-you was written by some Manila guy was it?
[01:26] <shadylookin> you can get crappy programs that mess up your system but you have to personally install them.
[01:26] <critt> CAn All Files and folder without a Lock icon on them be deleted from the tmp folder?
[01:27] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: do you also syncronize your cell phone with your mail programme? ( i got a nokia n80 and use thunderbird for mails and contacts and lightning for appointments.)
[01:27] <ahimaj> excellent
[01:27] <ahimaj> so, it seems to me that your system can only go to shit
[01:27] <ahimaj> if you aren't paying attention
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> Abyssal: never done that.. sorry... i'm kinda wierd, i only make phone calls on my cell phone..lol
[01:27] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: you also got a suggestion therefore?
[01:27] <ahimaj> or are trying really hard to screw it up
[01:27] <Abyssal> IndyGunFreak: ok. thank you anyway.
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> Abyssal: This might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices
[01:28] <nerdydude20> I have exim installed and set up to accept all emails (via /etc/aliases) and deliver them to a central account. If I send an email to test@localdomain and test2@localdomain the first email only receives the email.. not the second.. why aren't two copies delivered?
[01:28] <Anderson> I am troubleshooting a problem with my touchpad, and whenever I alter the xorg.conf from one pointing device to another, I get a fatal error saying a screen can not be found.... any ideas?
[01:28] <TwoD_> ahimaj, executables do run in Linux (otherwise it wouldn't function of course), they're just not named .exe or behave the same as windows executables (you need to explicitly set executable permissions before it can run etc). Music files are unlikely to be infected because no program would look for executable code in there, it's all data being parsed, not "executed" as machine instructions.
[01:28] <critt> Does tmp folder clean it's self on reboot?
[01:29] <varsendaggr> hey there i just enabled compiz but i have no title bars on my windows which makes them hard to move around   how do i "enable" them?
[01:29] <shadylookin> ya to run executables you would have to use sudo and chmod it to give it permissions personally
[01:29] <ahimaj> ah...thanks twoD
[01:29] <ahimaj> that's pretty amazing
[01:29] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Do you have ccsm?
[01:29] <shadylookin> so unlike windows nothing can stealthily mess up your computer
[01:29] <ahimaj> cus they don't have the permissions
[01:29] <Anderson> it also says something about the configuration file not matching the defaul server profile
[01:29] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: let me check
[01:29] <killfacengage> I'm having issues with the default index on my apache server not being parsed correctly, php files work fine but not if there the index, in that scenario it treats them like regualr html files
[01:30] <shadylookin> it's not really amazing it's been around forever outside of the windows world
[01:30] <ahimaj> i just joined linux about 3 months ago
[01:30] <varsendaggr> yeah
[01:30] <ahimaj> so, to me it's amazing
[01:30] <Abyssal> Odd-rationale: thank you for the link.
[01:30] <Kay> hi guys
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> Abyssal: np
[01:30] <ahimaj> getting everyone I know into it--gutsy has made it really accessible
[01:31] <Anderson> I am troubleshooting a problem with my touchpad, and whenever I alter the xorg.conf from one pointing device to another, I get a fatal error saying a screen can not be found.... any ideas?
[01:31] <Anderson> it also says something about the configuration file not matching the defaul server profile
[01:31] <ahimaj> though I prefer to use the terminal, mostly cus I don't trust the gui for a lot of programs
[01:31] <phantomcircuit> i didnt think it was possible but ubuntu is significantly slower than xp in booting up on my older laptop
[01:31] <ahimaj> the samba gui in particular is messed up
[01:31] <ahimaj> there's some frontend you can download that is more or less crap
[01:31] <killfacengage> anybody use apache with gutys?
[01:31] <killfacengage> gutsy
[01:31] <ahimaj> ksamba is what it's called I believe
[01:31] <Administrator_> coz linux will use as much memory as possible
[01:32] <yclian> ahimaj: gsambad?
[01:32] <ahimaj> oh right
[01:32] <Anderson> I am troubleshooting a problem with my touchpad, and whenever I alter the xorg.conf from one pointing device to another, I get a fatal error saying a screen can not be found.... any ideas?
[01:32] <Anderson> it also says something about the configuration file not matching the defaul server profile
[01:32] <corvvs> Anderson: go back a bit further in the log -- the "screen cannot be found" message is basically telling you "we can't connect to an X server because there isn't one running because something before this messed up"
[01:32] <ahimaj> thanks yclian
[01:32] <ahimaj> gsambad
[01:32] <yclian> at least I can see some text configuration, I trust that.
[01:32] <ahimaj> it has some weird effects though
[01:32] <Kay> well, with text configuration, one missed letter, and bye bye
[01:32] <Anderson> corvvs, what am I looking for?
[01:32] <ahimaj> couldn't get my samba to work
[01:32] <ahimaj> till I did it manually
[01:32] <yclian> Well, if you are a root, you should be careful with what you are writing to the system.
[01:33] <ahimaj> gsambad would activate the server, then mysteriously, samba would deactivate bout 5 seconds later
[01:33] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: ?
[01:33] <corvvs> Anderson: hang on a sec - looking for my X log file now to make sure I've got syntax and stuff correct
[01:33] <ahimaj> all you do as root
[01:33] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale:
[01:33] <Kay> well, my case with samba is similar
[01:33] <ahimaj> is edit the samba.conf file
[01:33] <Kay> I can connect to others
[01:33] <tom2002> i'm having an issue with my scanner
[01:33] <ahimaj> then init.d and start the puppy
[01:33] <Kay> but having some probs sharing TO others
[01:33] <tom2002> i run XSANE, but it says that it can't find the scanner
[01:33] <Anderson> corvvs, ok
[01:33] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[01:34] <corvvs> Anderson: open up /var/log/Xorg.0.log with less or whatever you like to use to read files
[01:34] <salah> 1500 kr er ikke allverdens, overlever
[01:34] <tom2002> i run the gnome scanner utility and it yields the same result
[01:34] <hou5ton> When downloading a package, where does the Archive Manager put it?
[01:34] <tom2002> what do i do
[01:34] <corvvs> Anderson: and search for lines beginning with (EE)
[01:34] <yclian> tom2002: what scanner is that?
[01:34] <tom2002> scanner is on and plugged in
[01:34] <salah> og hva med skilter, altså midlertidige, kan jeg få utstedt en selv om jeg ikke har lappen?
[01:34] <tom2002> what else do i need to do
[01:34] <wweasel> Odd question;
[01:34] <tom2002> a micotek
[01:34] <salah> ops wrong channel
[01:34] <tom2002> microtek *
[01:34] <Kay> it put it in /var/cache/apt
[01:35] <ahimaj> did you check your hardware configuration tom2002
[01:35] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: sorry   yeah    i do
[01:35] <tom2002> a microtek 5900
[01:35] <casperzshado> my top bar on all my windows disappeared and i dont know how to get it back and suggestions?
[01:35] <wweasel> I have an odd question; can an edgy box be upgraded straight to gutsy, or must it go through fiesty first?
[01:35] <loafer> probably its a total noob question but which packages do i have to install to make my ubuntu 7.10 pc to a server?
[01:35] <rave1> who could help me installing ati drivers?
[01:35] <tom2002> what exactly is that
[01:35] <ahimaj> go to system
[01:35] <casperzshado> the close, minimize and maximize
[01:35] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Open it and check to see of "Window Decoration" is enabled.
[01:35] <shadylookin> I hear it's best to do a fresh install as the upgrades have a tendency to break stuff wweasel
[01:35] <PriceChild> loafer, depends what you want to serve
[01:35] <TwoD_> Anderson, or use System->Administration->SystemLogs (or whatever it's called in English), a bit easier to read, and it updates automatically.
[01:35] <tom2002> k
[01:35] <bewst> Is it really possible that the ubuntu kernels are built with debug info?
[01:35] <Qarl> wweasel: must go through Fiesty first for non-LTS releases
[01:35] <ahimaj> go to preferences/hardware information
[01:35] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: i also have the "x11" X for my mouse pointer  i would also like to fix that too
[01:36] <yclian> tom2002: I can't be too helpful here, my HP scanner just works when I run the HP utility. The best I can do is: http://www.google.com/search?q=microtek+ubuntu
[01:36] <Kay> I have a question for you guys
[01:36] <corvvs> TwoD_: but since he can't start X...
[01:36] <tom2002> alright .. i'm there
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: When using compiz? how about without?
[01:36] <ahimaj> see if it has your scanner listed
[01:36] <wweasel> shadylookin: I've never had a problem upgrading. And I don't think it's a good idea to advise against upgrades in the IRC support channel. Upgrading is a supported and safe way to move from one version to the next.
[01:36] <TwoD_> corvvs, Ah, sorry, didn't see that. =P Then it's a tad bit harder hehe
[01:36] <Anderson> corvvs, I rebooted since I got the error
[01:36] <Kay> how do I get to compile sources from gusty/
[01:36] <Kay> ?
[01:36] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: windows decorations is enabled
[01:36] <PriceChild> wweasel, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[01:36] <quittt> hello, everybody
[01:36] <quittt> how are you?
[01:36] <corvvs> Anderson: oh, it's working now?
[01:36] <ahimaj> if it doesn't, either you haven't plugged it in well, or something is busted
[01:36] <Sier> I'm good, thank you
[01:37] <loafer> I want to have an FTP server with mysql an so on
[01:37] <Sier> I want to buy a S2000 :(
[01:37] <Anderson> corvvs, it said something about an unidentified device "defaul mouse'
[01:37] <tom2002> yup
[01:37] <tom2002> its listed
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Try restarting compiz and see if that works.
[01:37] <Anderson> corvvs, no, my touchpad is broken
[01:37] <ahimaj> hmmm
[01:37] <ahimaj> cloick on it
[01:37] <corvvs> Anderson: ahh, I misunderstood
[01:37] <tom2002> busted ..... uh oh
[01:37] <ahimaj> click on it
[01:37] <Anderson> corvvs, but it's causing problems with screen when I troubleshoot
[01:37] <casperzshado> anyone know how to get my top line on my windows back? the one with close max and min?
[01:37] <tom2002> alright
[01:37] <ahimaj> see what it says--if it has a description and version number
[01:37] <varsendaggr> how do i do that?
[01:37] <ahimaj> etc
[01:37] <tom2002> no
[01:37] <ahimaj> then you have the drivers for it already
[01:37] <tom2002> it says unknown
[01:37] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: will logging out and back in work?
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: alt+f2 "compiz --replace"
[01:38] <ahimaj> sounds like you are missing the drivers
[01:38] <TwoD_> hou5ton, you can check where a package puts its files (when installed) by right-clicking->properties or something like that in Synaptic.
[01:38] <corvvs> Anderson: can you send me a copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf - I'll take a look and see if I notice anything funky
[01:38] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Yes that works, too
[01:38] <tom2002> and how do i get those drivers
[01:38] <Anderson> corvvs, yeah, in PM?
[01:38] <ahimaj> go to the website of the company that built the scanner
[01:38] <tom2002> k
[01:38] <ahimaj> they should have drivers availale for linux
[01:38] <corvvs> Anderson: sure
[01:38] <tom2002> cool thx
[01:38] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   the problem is ... I didn't use Synaptic
[01:38] <ahimaj> if they don't, you can get the windows drivers
[01:38] <ahimaj> then use a driver wrapper
[01:38] <ahimaj> ndiswrapper is what it's called I believe
[01:38] <hou5ton> and I've tried locate and find commands ..and it's like this directory/files don't even exist
[01:38] <Elda> Weee trashing my current partition table now, lol
[01:38] <hou5ton> but they do
[01:39] <TwoD_> hou5ton, how did you install it?
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: well?
[01:39] <varsendaggr> no dice
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: OK do you have emerald?
[01:39] <varsendaggr> yes
[01:39] <ahimaj> does anyone here know if people are cracking down on torrent downloads
[01:39] <TwoD_> hou5ton, Synaptic is just a frontend for apt-get. So if you used apt-get (or ran a .deb file) you should see it in Synaptic now.
[01:39] <varsendaggr> but i don't know how to configure it
[01:39] <ahimaj> particularly from websites like mininova and piratebay
[01:39] <wols> ahimaj: OT
[01:39] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   unfortunately, I made the mistake of chosing the default method of using the Archive Manager instead of just downloading hte file and tarring
[01:40] <Anderson> corvvs, I did dcc send
[01:40] <tom2002> :(
[01:40] <ahimaj> wols: OT?
[01:40] <wols> !ot
[01:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:40] <wols> offtopic
[01:40] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Do you see emerald settings in system -> pref?
[01:40] <tom2002> the microtek website only has dirvers for windows and mac
[01:40] <ahimaj> oh
[01:40] <TwoD_> hou5ton, what type of file was it?
[01:40] <varsendaggr> yeah i have it open
[01:40] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   it was  a .bz2
[01:40] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   a dictionary file for StarDict
[01:41] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: Do you have any emerald themes there?
[01:41] <varsendaggr> ok i am fetching themes now
[01:41] <ahimaj> how do you access other ubuntu channels
[01:41] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   I guess I'll just ignore it and download it again and tar it myself???
[01:41] <tom2002> the microtek website said that linux was unsupported :(
[01:41] <ahimaj> ok
[01:41] <ahimaj> get the windows driver
[01:41] <ahimaj> then get a driver wrapper
[01:41] <ahimaj> ndiswrapper is what it should be called
[01:41] <ahimaj> might be a letter off or so
[01:41] <tom2002> alright
[01:41] <TwoD_> hou5ton, ok but if you used the Archive Manager you should have had to select where to unpackage it to I think
[01:41] <Abyssal> any german user who can help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50223/
[01:41] <ahimaj> it's basically a program that will allow you to use windows drivers with linux
[01:42] <varsendaggr> ok i got one now i will restart
[01:42] <corvvs> Anderson: hmm, doesn't seem like I'm getting it
[01:42] <TwoD_> *unpackage = unpack
[01:42] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   it didn't give me that option .... but it says it would have put it at /
[01:42] <ahimaj> anyone know how to access other ubuntu channles
[01:42] <ahimaj> channels
[01:42] <red_team316> type /join #channelname
[01:42] <corvvs> Anderson: I'm trying out Pidgin instead of BitchX, just to see how good the IRC support was... looks like not very :P
[01:42] <Benalex> ahimaj: type /j #channelname
[01:42] <wols> ahimaj: he won't be able to run a scanner with ndiswrapper
[01:42] <Anderson> corvvs, on public net, probably firewall.
[01:42] <Anderson> corvvs, im using xchat, and I dont even know how to open a pm
[01:42] <varsendaggr> Odd-rationale: thanks for your help
[01:42] <ahimaj> he just needs the drivers
[01:43] <varsendaggr> it workds
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> varsendaggr: np.
[01:43] <astro76> ahimaj, NDIS is network devices only
[01:43] <TwoD_> hou5ton, ah, try opening the archive again and look at its folder structure. You should then be able to work out where the files were unpacked. Unless you're root, you shouldn't be able to unpack anything anywhere than your home and other allowed places.
[01:43] <ahimaj> oh, bummer
[01:43] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   and then I need to move the contents to a Stardict directory ..
[01:43] <astro76> Network Driver Interface Specification
[01:44] <ookami> testing 1 2 3...
[01:44] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   that's what I thought ... it should be in home or on desktop
[01:45]  * bitmonk wonder if anyone else here has run compiz in a parallels vm, and if it's possible to use AiGLX instead of Xgl, which seems mighty unstable and *always* hangs after about 2-3min
[01:45] <Anderson> corvvs, I was an mIRC'er before Linux, not as simple...
[01:46] <ahimaj> anyone know any good channels dealing with linux and torrent downloads
[01:46] <bitmonk> Anderson: have you tried TalkSoup ?
[01:46] <bitmonk> not quite mirc but pretty nifty.
[01:46] <Benalex> ahimaj: try searchirc.com
[01:46] <scguy318> !torrents | ahimaj
[01:46] <TwoD_> hou5ton, try searching for some of the files in the archive if you really want to get rid of them. I don't think you can have damaged anything, so unless they are in your home folder (or subfolders, try showing hidden files too) I wouldn't worry about it and start over again.
[01:46] <ubotu> ahimaj: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[01:46] <aravind> anybody there ?
[01:46] <Anderson> bitmonk, no, i'll check it out after I get this straightened out.
[01:46] <scguy318> ahimaj: if you were interested in Ubuntu ISOs via BitTorrent
[01:46] <bitmonk> yeah i'm not sure if apt calls it TalkSoup or talksoup.app
[01:47] <aravind> need some help regarding compiz
[01:47] <bitmonk> aravind: you and me both ;d
[01:47] <bitmonk> but i ahve made some progress today, other than instabilities, so maybe i can help.
[01:47] <aravind> k bitmonk
[01:47] <Anderson> what is that ubuntu site where I can upload large outputs?
[01:47] <bitmonk> !paste ?
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <bitmonk> aravind: in the channel, please.
[01:48] <bitmonk> !pastebin
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <aravind> ok bitmonk
[01:48] <Abyssal> there is another problem i got: i got a hp scanjet 3800 scanner. the driver i installed (hp3900-series_0.11.tar.gz) is basically ok. the scanner is very fast. but there is a big problem: every scan with whether with kooka or with xsane has 2 colored stripes in it. on the left half. a violet and a fair green stripe. who can help to fix this problem?
[01:48] <aravind> i hav installed ubuntu on my laptop and am unable to configure visual effects
[01:49] <wols> aravind: what vide driver?
[01:49] <Elda> Vista works on NTFS correct?
[01:49] <ookami> Elda, yes
[01:49] <aravind> i hav sis video driver
[01:49] <bitmonk> though a bit OT
[01:50] <Elda> Want to make sure it recognizes that partition type off the bat so it doesnt try to use the partition I've made for linux
[01:50] <wols> Abyssal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=hp3900&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[01:50] <Elda> Because iirc, when I use the restore disk it automatically uses that partition
[01:50] <corvvs> Anderson: you didn't get my attempted PM?
[01:50] <juiop> I am trying to find the option to turn off the show contents while dragging a window, could anyone tell me where to look?
[01:50] <Anderson> corvvs no
[01:50] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   ok, found it ... it was put under another file name in /tmp
[01:50] <corvvs> Anderson: drat
[01:50] <bitmonk> aravind: did you check if it is known to work with Xgl, or better for now, AiGLX ?
[01:50] <Anderson> corvvs, I will use pastebin, is there a way to parse text to clipboard?
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> corvvs: Only registered users can send pm's
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> !register
[01:50] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[01:51] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   what is weird to me though, is that the updated locate command still will not find it, even though i'm looking right at it
[01:51] <corvvs> Odd-rationale: ahh, thanks
[01:51] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i've just tried plugging in my usb mouse, and nothing happening.. i tail -f /var/log/messages and there's not any messages there...??
[01:51] <NET||abuse> what's happening?
[01:51] <aravind> bitmonk: where can i check whether my video driver works with AiGLX ?
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> corvvs: It used to not be this way, butt...
[01:51] <Abyssal> wols: i need all those packages installed or what?
[01:51] <NET||abuse> actually, it does say " printk: 6 messages suppressed."
[01:52] <bitmonk> google AiGLX? ;d
[01:52] <aravind> k :)
[01:52] <bitmonk> i was at all these pages earlier, but have closed them.  i'll try to dig them up if you can't find, but it shouldn't be too hard..
[01:52] <bitmonk> there is some good stuff in ubuntu wiki
[01:52] <corvvs> Anderson: probably - what do you mean parse text to clipboard?
[01:52] <bitmonk> consider a search of 'ubuntu compiz'
[01:52] <bitmonk> top ten are pretty good there
[01:53] <corvvs> Anderson: oh, you mean pipe a text file directly into the X clip or highlight buffer?
[01:53] <aravind> ok, thanks for the help bitmonk, i wil do some research and make the visul efects work :)
[01:53] <Anderson> corvvs, Yea thats the word I was looking for
[01:53] <corvvs> Anderson: I dunno - that would be a neat feature if it did exist though :D
[01:53] <bitmonk> aravind: good luck
[01:54] <corvvs> Anderson: open it in gedit and select all
[01:54] <Abyssal> wols: i need all those packages installed or what?
[01:54] <TwoD_> hou5ton, I've never gotten the locate command to do what I want... Used the GUI instead (which is a bit quirky too IMHO)
[01:54] <adamonline46> Alright folks, I'm on day 3 of figuring out why my Kubuntu machine can only see remote Samba shares if I'm root.  Does anyone know what this might be?
[01:54] <B-rabbit> what is the "apt-get" package search option?
[01:55] <B-rabbit> i forgot what it was
[01:55] <jameswf-home> man apt-get
[01:55] <Alex_Gaynor> I am getting the following output when I try to runn the install-css script included with libdvdread3: http://dpaste.com/29465/
[01:55] <adamonline46> B-rabbit: sudo aptitude search packagename
[01:55] <corvvs> B-rabbit: apt-cache search
[01:55] <B-rabbit> corvvs, thats it thnx
[01:55] <TwoD_> adamonline46, ports ok? I'm not using samba much myself so I wouldn't really know.
[01:55] <NET||abuse> anyone know hwy my messages are all just " kernel: [186577.080000] printk: 6 messages suppressed."
[01:55] <KaoticEvil> can i ask questions about ubuntu-server in here too?
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[01:56] <adamonline46> TwoD_: I disabled all f irewalls but the WAN's for this purpose... I don't think it's a port thing... :/
[01:56] <Anderson> does anyone know how to pipe to my clipboard?
[01:56] <adamonline46> KaoticEvil: Sure, just make sure you ask for CLI instructions 8)
[01:57] <corvvs> Anderson: just open it in gedit and copy/paste
[01:57] <Elda> Yeay.... done making my evil partitions.  Gparted seems like it likes to crash though if I play too much with the prtitions
[01:57] <Anderson> corvvs, k, I only knew about nano...
[01:57] <KaoticEvil> adamonline46: well, im having some issues getting access to MySQL
[01:58] <corvvs> Anderson: that works too - whatever text editor you like
[01:58] <Elda> Oh well, brb.. time to reinstall
[01:58] <corvvs> Anderson: vim is also great :D
[01:58] <Greevous> anyone know where I can find the images that are shown in the "cosmos" screensaver?
[01:58] <adamonline46> KaoticEvil: Ooh, damn... I know nothing about databasing :)  All I know is 'drop tables' could be bad... 8)
[01:58] <KaoticEvil> lol adamonline46
[01:58] <Anderson> corvvs, nah nano would only let me copy a little at a time... tediour
[01:58] <Abyssal> wols: i downloaded this file: [sane-backends-extras_1.0.18.8.tar.gz]  how shall i install it correctly so that my scanner runs?
[01:58] <Anderson> corvvs, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50224/
[01:58] <KaoticEvil> well, i found a howto, but it doesnt seem to be working.. the step for restting the password doesnt work
[01:59] <T1m0thy> What is the command to check which graphics driver is being used?
[01:59] <adamonline46> Anderson: There's a way to copy everything under the current line, man nano
[01:59] <Alex_Gaynor> Anyone on why I get this error: http://dpaste.com/29465/ when I try to run the css script?
[01:59] <Anderson> corvvs, the part I am particularly interested in are the two adjacent sections relating to pointing devices: 'Configured Mouse' and 'Synaptic Touchpad'
[01:59] <z0r1> Anyone know how to assing multiple physical hard drives to a vmware  machine?
[01:59] <z0r1> assigning*
[01:59] <z0r1> :D
[02:00] <B-rabbit> !pgp | B-rabbit
[02:00] <corvvs> Anderson: hmm - but Synaptics Touchscreen is commented out and you have another InputDevice underneath called "touchscreen" that's *not* commented
[02:00] <B-rabbit> !gpgp
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <B-rabbit> !find pgp
[02:01] <ubotu> Found: claws-mail-pgpinline, claws-mail-pgpmime, gpgp, libcommons-openpgp-java, libcommons-openpgp-java-doc (and 11 others)
[02:01] <B-rabbit> got it
[02:01] <joel_> hi der
[02:01] <scrounch_> scrounch_ is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[02:01] <joel_> my keybod seems 2 hav sm prob
[02:01] <Anderson> corvvs, right, and there is the 'Configured Mouse' right above it. I am just concerned about the touchpad right now, so that I at least have something working
[02:02] <joel_> can any1 help me+
[02:02] <B-rabbit> joel_, whats the problem?
[02:02] <corvvs> Anderson: yeah, I'm trying to figure out... what behaviour are you seeing right now from it?
[02:02] <z0r1> I keep getting "Insufficient permission to access file" when I try to create the Disk file for a Physical Hard Drive in VMWare Server... Anyone know how to fix this?
[02:02] <Anderson> corvvs, when I touch it, it positions the pointer unpredictably, and performs doubletap
[02:02] <joel_> i hav 2 press the 'fn' key 2 get sm characer
[02:03] <Alex_Gaynor> Anyone on why I get this error: http://dpaste.com/29465/ when I try to run the css script?
[02:03] <B-rabbit> z0r1, use "sudo"
[02:03] <corvvs> Anderson: what model device is it?
[02:03] <z0r1> I'm in a gui....
[02:03] <Anderson> corvvs, Panasonic Toughbook CF-18
[02:03] <Anderson> corvvs, with touchscreen, not digitizer
[02:04] <Abyssal> is this ./configure
[02:04] <Abyssal> make
[02:04] <Abyssal> sudo make install for that file http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libsane-extras enough?
[02:04] <corvvs> Anderson: ok, let me google a second :)
[02:04] <Anderson> corvvs, good deal, thanks
[02:04] <joel_> th5s 5s wat a**ears 5f 5 ty*e w5th64t *ress5ng the fn 2ey
[02:04] <Riotblade> Hey, anyone run a shoutcast server using sc trans on their ubuntu box?
[02:04] <Task> Screw it I dont care... its not ATI and I see good things about it on the net... I am ordered it.. there is no arguing damn it
[02:04] <Task> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=14-127-293-08.jpg&Image=14-127-293-08.jpg%2c14-127-293-02.jpg%2c14-127-293-03.jpg%2c14-127-293-04.jpg%2c14-127-293-05.jpg%2c14-127-293-06.jpg%2c14-127-293-07.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=0&Description=MSI+GeForce+8600GT+NX8600GT-T2D256EZ+Video+Card
[02:04] <Task> My baby is being shipped :)
[02:05] <hou5ton> TwoD_:   hey  ... got it figured out now ... in my opinion, the archive manager process doesn't really help.  If it's not going to finish the job, then I'd rather just do it myself
[02:05] <squarebracket> is there any way to unmount a directory mounted with sshfs?
[02:05] <scrounch_> scrounch_ is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[02:05] <snugg> "/ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[02:06] <B-rabbit> z0r1, did u add your self to the vm server group?
[02:06] <TwoD_> hou5ton, hehe
[02:06]  * bitmonk is having key repeat issues running inside a vm, anyone have a suggggestion ? ;)
[02:06] <z0r1> B-rabbit: No.
[02:06] <juiop> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to disable "show window contents while dragging" ? Gnome v2.20
[02:06] <bitmonk> juiop: good question.
[02:06] <scrounch_[game]> sorry all
[02:06] <z0r1> How do I do that?
[02:06] <corvvs> Anderson: ahhh, weird
[02:07] <corvvs> Anderson: I think I might have found it
[02:07] <Anderson> corvvs, what's that?
[02:07] <B-rabbit> z0r1, go to system>administration> users and groups
[02:07] <B-rabbit> and add your self
[02:07] <badkitty> hello maytes
[02:07] <corvvs> Anderson: try this:  echo -n 'bare' > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/protocol
[02:07] <juiop> bitmonk: Yea, I found a thread on a forum that refers to installing sawfish to do it... I'm just hoping that there is another way.
[02:07] <z0r1> There isn't a vmware group
[02:07] <bitmonk> juiop: i see no such option
[02:07] <Abyssal> i got an old SUSE Linux documentation/ handbook. can i use the tipps and the shell command in ubuntu as well?
[02:07] <bitmonk> yeek, sawfish
[02:08] <juiop> bitmonk: oh well, thanks anyways.
[02:08] <Anderson> corvvs, permission denied, even with sudo
[02:08] <jkfldsjkflds> ubuntu is kickass baby!
[02:08] <Anderson> hold on, Ill try su
[02:08] <corvvs> Anderson: won't make a difference
[02:08] <corvvs> Anderson: shouldn't anyway :P
[02:09] <joel_> actly i'm a newbie in ubuntu
[02:09] <corvvs> Anderson: actually, I see further down that the patch for that should have gone into 2.6.22... which is what you've got on there now, I assume :P
[02:09] <wers> is there a place in ubuntu that would tell my my screen's size?
[02:09] <joel_> can any1 just teach me how 2 instaall a rpogram using the terminal
[02:09] <Anderson> corvvs, kernel version? how do I check that?
[02:10] <corvvs> Anderson: uname -a
[02:10] <Dr_willis> joel_,  sudo apt-get install whatever_you_want
[02:10] <Anderson> corvvs, 2.6.17
[02:10] <corvvs> Anderson: oh, you're not running Ubuntu 7.10?
[02:10] <g_> the restricted drivers manager says its installed everything for the broadcom card that I have but it wont find any wireless networks at all what should I do?
[02:10] <joel_> ok
[02:10] <joel_> thanx
[02:10] <Task> where do I get good linux games?
[02:10] <stinkyfoot> how do i open a password protected rar file, it doesn't prompt me to enter the pw
[02:11] <Anderson> corvvs, No this is the first time I have used this laptop with access to internet since Feb
[02:11] <Alex_Gaynor> Anyone on why I get this error: http://dpaste.com/29465/ when I try to run the css script?
[02:11] <corvvs> Anderson: ah, ok
[02:11] <stinkyfoot> how do i open a password protected rar file, it doesn't prompt me to enter the pw
[02:11] <Anderson> corvvs, although i did at least apt-get upgrade today
[02:11] <corvvs> Task: http://www.tuxgames.com for commercial games
[02:11] <contract> Good evening, all
[02:11] <Toker> I tried to do a fresh install of ubuntu and have borked my system, getting an "Error 15" when grub starts up. Based on some googling, apparently that means my computer is booting from the wrong partition (I don't know what that means, but that's what the problem is, supposedly). So, I tried to follow the directions here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-583212.html and wound up in something called the PhoenixBIOS Setup Utility,
[02:11] <Anderson> corvvs, I suppose I should do distro upgrade
[02:11] <corvvs> Task: http://www.happypenguin.org for open source
[02:11] <Task> thanks
[02:11] <joel_> Dr Willis, hw do i know where the file will be kept?
[02:12] <corvvs> Anderson: that might just be the way to go :|
[02:12] <corvvs> Anderson: although maybe a bit more we can try first
[02:12] <valberg> hey
[02:12] <Anderson> corvvs, alright, watcha got?
[02:12] <valberg> does anyone have a imagemagick 6.3.0 .deb file ?
[02:12] <corvvs> Anderson: try changing it from the "synaptics" driver to "evdev"?
[02:13] <g_> where do I go to find out more about broadcom drivers and ubunt?
[02:13] <valberg> or just the newest version
[02:13] <stinkyfoot> how do i open a password protected rar file, it doesn't prompt me to enter the pw
[02:13] <contract> Got a wee bit of a problem with setting up my laptop's intel 945 video card and an external display with a different resolution than the laptop's own so that the laptop display is off and the external display is on.
[02:13] <Toker> can someone help me with a borked ubuntu installation?
[02:13] <corvvs> Anderson: and also add    Option "Mode" "Relative"   to the touchpad section
[02:14] <corvvs> Anderson: somebody else says that worked for him
[02:14] <Anderson> corvvs, uncomment it?
[02:14] <corvvs> Anderson: er yeah -- that is the section you were trying to use for the touchpad right?
[02:14] <corvvs> Anderson: or no?
[02:14] <corvvs> Anderson: should I be looking at "touchscreen" instead?
[02:14] <Anderson> corvvs, well... yeah, but I was also commenting out the configured mouse section... dunno if that's a problem...
[02:15] <Anderson> corvvs, no that's the right section
[02:15] <valberg> it hasn't even been updated for hardy
[02:15] <stinkyfoot> how do i open a password protected rar file, it doesn't prompt me to enter the pw
[02:15] <corvvs> Anderson: oh! I just realized something -- did you say your error message was something like "Configured Mouse device not found" after you commented it out?
[02:15] <Anderson> corvvs, yea
[02:15] <corvvs> Anderson: haha, even if we don't get it working completely I can help you fix THAT message!
[02:16] <adamonline46> Does anyone know what nsswitch.conf is for?
[02:16] <valberg> stinkyfoot, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249754&highlight=unrar+password+protected
[02:16] <corinth> I have some icons I'd like to set as the default icon for folders, filetypes, etc. How can I do this?
[02:16] <Anderson> corvvs, I'm guessing I shouldn;t comment it out?
[02:16] <corvvs> Anderson: at the very bottom of the xorg.conf file there's a section titled ServerLayout -- that's where you tell it which of the devices you've got configured above you want to use for your default
[02:17] <valberg> stinkyfoot, basically, use the terminal to do it
[02:17] <Anderson> corvvs, Oooh... would that cause the xorg system to fatal error?
[02:17] <corvvs> Anderson: go ahead and comment out that chunk, but ALSO comment out the line 	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"    at the bottom
[02:17] <corvvs> Anderson: yeah, because you're pointing it at something that no longer exists
[02:18] <Anderson> corvvs, should I add InputDevice "Synaptic Touchpad" ?
[02:18] <Montego> Does Ubuntu have a easy to use DVD authoring and burning app?
[02:18] <corvvs> Anderson: yep
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Montego,  you mean to make avi files into dvd videos? Or just make dvd data disks..
[02:18] <corvvs> Anderson: or you could uncomment the one already there
[02:18] <valberg> stinkyfoot, sudo apt-get install rar unrar first, and then "cd /to/the/directory/with/the/file" and then "unrar <thefile>.rar"
[02:18] <thedefender> Montego: yes . find it via synaptic
[02:18] <Anderson> corvvs, alright hold on... if this doesn't work I will have to reboot and be down for about 10 minutes... I have some funky hardware crap going on that I have to look at.
[02:18] <valberg> and it should prompt you for a password
[02:18] <harrisony> my pci ethernet card was eth1 but now eth2 would there be a way to force it back to eth1
[02:18] <joel_> i'm using a dual boot in my laptop, so do i need an antivirus?
[02:18] <Montego> Dr_willis avi to dvd yes>
[02:19] <corvvs> Anderson: ok
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Montego,  thers some tools out there.. but ive not had much luck with them. :(  as for data-dvd disk making. thats the easy part.
[02:19] <valberg> does anyone have or know of where i can get a imagemagick >=6.3.0 deb package ?
[02:19] <stinkyfoot> got it valberg
[02:19] <stinkyfoot> thx
[02:19] <valberg> stinkyfoot, np :)
[02:19] <Dr_willis> !info tovid
[02:19] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[02:19] <Toker> can someone help me with reinstalling ubuntu? I'm having partitioning problems
[02:20] <Dr_willis> Montego,  i tried using the 'tovid' tools.. and some others..
[02:20] <shadowh511> sure, Toker, what's your problem?
[02:20] <harrisony> Toker: just tell us the problem and thoes that know will answer
[02:21] <Montego> Dr_willis I have tried some in the repo But nothing much good . Some want far to much input that I can't give or take to dam long to burn. est 3hrs for 1 1/2 hr movie
[02:21] <pi3> how do I know what graphics card I have?
[02:21] <Toker> shadown511/harrisony: I'm getting an Error 15 on booting - some googling gives some clues to the problem, but there appears to be no way to fix it without doing stuff way over my head
[02:21] <B-rabbit> Is there a way to delete all the content of a file without actually going into it. For example i want to delete the content of the file "/home/B-rabbit/helloworld" but not the file itself. my way of deleting the stuff would be "pico helloworld" then press "Ctrl + k" until it all rubs off...is there any other way of doing this through the command lin?
[02:22] <Montego> Oh well will just use wifes nero to burn for now.
[02:22] <Avt> freenode
[02:22] <shadowh511> Toker: my advice is to back up your data using a live cd and then reinstall
[02:22] <B-rabbit> a faster way
[02:22] <Dr_willis> B-rabbit,  You could echo "" > filename or is it >>
[02:22] <shadowh511> its >
[02:22] <shadowh511> Toker?
[02:22] <PriceChild> B-rabbit, or rm then touch it
[02:22] <PriceChild> Dr_willis, >> would just tack on the end
[02:22] <Toker> shadown511: which partitioning option should i use (everything's already backed up - last time I did the "guided - entire disk option"
[02:22] <Abyssal> wols: the installation of this tar.gz does not work properly
[02:23] <z0r1> How could I let a VMWare File server access all 4 of my 500gb hard drives?
[02:23] <shadowh511> Toker: you should do the same thing again
[02:23] <Toker> shadown511: okay thanks, will try again
[02:23] <Abyssal> wols: i could extract all files, but ./configure brings me the first errors.
[02:23] <corinth> I have some icons I'd like to set as the default icon for folders, filetypes, etc. How can I do this?
[02:23] <B-rabbit> PriceChild, can u think of any other way?
[02:23] <jiutian> #ubuntu-cn
[02:23] <Anderson> corvvs, Ok, before I reload xserver, I commented out configured mouse, uncommented synaptics, including in the server layout, and added the mode relative option to the touchpad
[02:23] <PriceChild> B-rabbit, what's wrong with the ways given
[02:23] <shadowh511> be sure to tell me if it works '/msg shadowh511'
[02:24] <stinkyfoot> does anyone know how i can make password entry visible in the terminal
[02:24] <stinkyfoot> ?
[02:24] <corvvs> Anderson: cross your fingers and Ctrl+Alt+Bksp :P
[02:24] <Anderson> corvvs, alright, we'll see.
[02:24] <truna> stinkyfoot, what good would that do?
[02:24] <Toker> shadown511: okay, will do
[02:24] <stinkyfoot> so i'll know when misspell something
[02:24] <shadowh511> stinkyfoot: its a security measure, so you are stuck with is unless you know how to edit C code
[02:24] <shadowh511> it
[02:24] <stinkyfoot> that's silly
[02:24] <truna> stinkyfoot, nope..no can do
[02:25] <B-rabbit> PriceChild, i am pretty lazy....so i don't want to write the name of the file again...which u have to do if u do it your way with the "touch" command :)
[02:25] <truna> stinkyfoot, it is not silly
[02:25] <stinkyfoot> suppose i do know how to edit c code
[02:25] <stinkyfoot> what do i edit
[02:25] <B-rabbit> PriceChild, "touch helloworld"
[02:25] <shadowh511> it prevents password theft since version 1 of UNIX
[02:25] <shadowh511> a LOT
[02:25] <stinkyfoot> it's useless to me
[02:25] <Rugmonster> evening all
[02:25] <pi3> I have an integrated graphics card Mobile GM965/GL960 but compiz doesn't seem to work, what can I do?
[02:25] <shadowh511> then remove the password and disconnect from the internet
[02:25] <Bob_Lablah> dcc send unerbeybagabyrgybaeeyrbggbyrbfrhfbrygfbrgbgylsrgyrbsgierubgwiureerwugheqriognqerugnqguqernguoqguqrbgqrugqrpugnqprgnuqrpugnqrugnpqqnguqernguqgpnqerugnrgn935urgno;dgveriobh;srnhato;ernhgabietohnrioeanuionjgaihaernkg[ae'tnhel;rguabklguyrbvharybgfirurguqurguqurbgeru;qgqnqvfryeweihogfqweriogniqregnnqrioevnio;qernivqeuvbqervuqervuoqrevnq;ervnqeruvnqe;vqeruvn;qervuqrvnuqrvnuqeru;v;nqurqbgurignqro';eughqerugnq'rqugbiqerubgilergbaukgasur
[02:25] <Bob_Lablah> legbluilur;geruaga;abiarbo;aroiogaerbguiergbuogaiowergio;argboairbioarebguoarioargbao;ergiarb
[02:26] <B-rabbit> Bob_Lablah, what the hell
[02:26] <preaction> Bob_Lablah, fail much?
[02:26] <lawl> l0l
[02:26] <B-rabbit> hahaa
[02:26] <corvvs> stinkyfoot: if you really want to change it (which I don't recommend) then you'll need to find the source for /bin/login and recompile it
[02:26] <PriceChild> B-rabbit, then do the > one
[02:26] <lawl> PriceChild wtf
[02:26] <lawl> are you unable to kick or something
[02:27] <PriceChild> lawl, remove is a special freenode feature, its quieter and doesn't trigger most autorejoins
[02:27] <Rugmonster> quick question. Is there a way to update your session to recognize you've been added to a new group. Ex: add myself to vboxusers group. Until I log out and log back in, I can't access /dev/vboxdrv. Is there some way I can get around having to log out and back in again?
[02:27] <CarlFK> is there a nifty app that will convert a .wmv to a mpeg (so I can use k3b to burn a VCD)
[02:27] <lawl> its also the stupidest thing ive seen so far on this network
[02:27] <D4nt3_c00lzz> surabaya
[02:27] <Anderson> corvvs, no go... it stopped working completely
[02:27] <lawl> next in line is quux
[02:28] <shadowh511> i would try bitcomet flv converter (needs wine 'sudo apt-get install wine')
[02:28] <PriceChild> grr
[02:28] <corvvs> Anderson: any new and exciting error messages?
[02:28] <Anderson> corvvs, no... that definately improved
[02:28] <B-rabbit> PriceChild, i am not familiar with that method could u show me an example plz
[02:28] <shadowh511> my laptop overheated today and the logs said that it was on fire
[02:28] <shadowh511> lol
[02:28] <g_> my wireless card wont work at all, its an internal broadcom card in my laptop
[02:28] <PriceChild> B-rabbit, just do echo "" > /path/to/file
[02:28] <corvvs> Anderson: so X started fine but you still had no touchpad input
[02:28] <Abyssal> got problems with installing sane-backends-extras_1.0.18.8.tar. ./configure make and make install does not work. who can help?
[02:28] <corvvs> Anderson: and now no regular mouse either :P
[02:28] <Anderson> corvvs, I was using the synaptic driver... no not on pad or screen
[02:28] <laoen> if i use my guest OS open a file with virus which locates in my host os, will my host os gets infected also?
[02:29]  * sJ slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[02:29] <sJ> nigga pl0z
[02:29] <mint> hey guys... I'm using a live cd and backing data up to a samba share before I do a reinstall... the annoying thing is there is no indication of the progress of the file transfer!!
[02:29] <mint> I have no idea if it will be done or not!!
[02:29] <CarlFK> Abyssal: search the wiki for "UpdatingADeb" - it might help
[02:29] <PriceChild> sJ, pardon?
[02:29] <laoen> if i use my guest OS open a file with virus which locates in my host os, will my host os gets infected also?
[02:29] <mint> I just dragged the files over to the network share from the gnome file manager
[02:29] <mint> the files instantly appeared, but I know that 20Gigs didnt transfer that fast!
[02:29] <Abyssal> CarlFK: can you give me the url of the wiki also?
[02:29] <shadowh511> laoen: if its linux as the second os, no
[02:30] <sJ> Can u dig it NIgaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:30] <mint> where is the fscking progress metere!?!?!?!?
[02:30] <shadowh511> it transfers on unmount
[02:30] <laoen> shadowh511, my guest os is xp
[02:30] <jiutian> how can i open the file of swf?
[02:30] <laoen> host os is xp also
[02:30] <PriceChild> !ohmy | mint
[02:30] <ubotu> mint: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:30] <mint> language?
[02:30] <shadowh511> it works in the backround
[02:30] <mint> fsck is a filesystem checker
[02:30] <mint> so I wasn't lewd ;)
[02:30] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[02:30] <mint> but, can someone PLEASE answer my question!?
[02:30] <PriceChild> mint, don't try and be clever. Watch the attitude.
[02:30] <jiutian> how can i open flash
[02:30] <shadowh511> laoen: then install AVG anti-free
[02:30] <mint> how can I see the file transfer progress!?
[02:30] <mint> even windows has this... it's pretty basic
[02:31] <laoen> i have anti virus already
[02:31] <YourOnlyRealFrie> my computer doesn't seem to recognize my second monitor even though I'm getting stuff on the other screen
[02:31] <shadowh511> use it
[02:31] <CarlFK> Abyssal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[02:31] <Abyssal> CarlFK:  thanks got it. are you the writer?
[02:31] <laoen> shadowh511, i just wanna know if the host os will get infected by the virus
[02:31] <mint> any ideas!?
[02:31] <shadowh511> probably if they both are microcrap
[02:31] <mint> any ideas!?
[02:31] <corvvs> Anderson: I dunno man - here's the forum I was getting my ideas from: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-handheld-25/panasonic-toughbook-cf-29-touch-screen-485053/page7.html
[02:31] <PriceChild> mint, what program is this?
[02:31] <shadowh511> mv -i mint
[02:31] <shadowh511> nautilus
[02:31] <CarlFK> Abyssal: yes.  but it is more a big handy tip
[02:31] <mint> I am using nautilus
[02:32] <PriceChild> mindframe_, that has progress bars by default
[02:32] <shadowh511> sudo apt-get upgrade nautilus
[02:32] <joel_> i downloaded a file on the net n it appears on my dekstop, does that means my program is installed already?
[02:32] <corvvs> Anderson: best I can say is browse through there and see if you can find anything I missed that looks good
[02:32] <mint> I just dragged the files over and they appeared instantly... but I have no way of seeing if it is done or not!!
[02:32] <corvvs> Anderson: or upgrade to ubuntu 7.10
[02:32] <Dr_willis> joel_,  doubtfull
[02:32] <mint> there is no progress bar
[02:32] <PriceChild> mint, it is done
[02:32] <B-rabbit> PriceChild, that worked for me :) thnx
[02:32] <joel_> what should i do?
[02:32]  * B-rabbit big kiss
[02:32] <PriceChild> B-rabbit, someone else suggested it
[02:32] <shadowh511> mint: reboot and see if they are there
[02:32] <Dr_willis> joel_,  no idea.. what are you trying to do?
[02:32] <mint> PriceChild: cant be... 20 gigs doesnt transfer over a network cable in one second
[02:32] <Task> what peer 2 peer programs do I have to choose from?
[02:32] <mint> and some of the files are still a size of zero
[02:32] <mint> I'm not dumb
[02:32] <joel_> install that software
[02:33] <PriceChild> mint, you probably just linked to them or something wierd
[02:33] <shadowh511> then its still copying
[02:33] <Dr_willis> joel_,  and the software is? and the filename is?
[02:33] <PriceChild> mindframe_, right click drag then choose move to be sure
[02:33] <mint> PriceChild: heh.. now how would I do that? all I did was dragged them over to move them
[02:33] <laoen> can someone tell me if i use my guest OS open a file with virus which locates in my host os, will my host os gets infected also?
[02:33] <B-rabbit> Dr_willis, thnx :D
[02:33] <g_> whats the url for the broadcom wiki docs?
[02:33] <mint> and NO, they are not symlinks
[02:33] <joel_> Dr willis, the file name is dazuko-2.3.4.tar.gz
[02:33] <mint> I know that for a fact
[02:33] <corvvs> mint: dragged them in your file manager? nautilus, I presume?
[02:33] <mint> sigh, I'll just do mv -i
[02:34] <Dr_willis> joel_,  for source packages you need to uncompress, then compile the source.
[02:34] <mint> I hate silly file managers that have important crap toggled off
[02:34] <Dr_willis> !find dazuko
[02:34] <ubotu> Found: dazuko-source
[02:34] <mint> corvvs: yes.
[02:34] <shadowh511> laoen: its not likely but your problem should be transfered to #windows
[02:34] <mint> I am on the ubuntu live CD
[02:34] <joel_> Dr Willis, and actly how do i compile?
[02:34] <laoen> shadowh511, k, thx
[02:34] <mint> backing up laptop data to a network drive so I can install over it
[02:34] <shadowh511> ./configure;make;sudo make install
[02:34] <corvvs> mint: nautilus does have a progress bar -- it should be in your window list, try finding it and clicking on it
[02:34] <Abyssal> CarlFK: hmm... that sounds all very confusing and dangerous.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> joel_,  the docs for the program/web site should give details.. its like shadowh511  said basdicially
[02:35] <Dr_willis> joel_,  you will need ALL the developer/tools that program needs installed also..
[02:35] <shadowh511> (run the config script, compile, install as root)
[02:35] <corvvs> mint: oh, on the live cd? well, I'm assuming it works the same way...
[02:35] <YourOnlyRealFrie> anyway, I was wondering if I could get help WITH THAT
[02:35] <Dr_willis> joel_,  install the 'build-essentials' package also..
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[02:35] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:35] <joel_> Dr willis
[02:35] <shadowh511> is the cd drive making a noise like VVVVVVT
[02:35] <Dr_willis> oops,. no S on the end.
[02:35] <joel_> i'l try
[02:35] <g_> is there an irc client better than xchat for gnome cause this looks like crap
[02:36] <g_> I cant see anything properly
[02:36] <Dr_willis> I use xchat, not xchat-gnome
[02:36] <B-rabbit> !xchat
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Dr_willis> I see things just fine with xchat.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> I do set the fonts bigger. :)
[02:36] <shadowh511> pidgin is irq
[02:36] <mint> eh, I'm just doing mv -i
[02:36] <mint> lol
[02:36] <corvvs> !irc
[02:36] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[02:36] <mint> I dont have time to deal with it
[02:36] <mboso> I just installed amarok 1.4.8 on a ubuntu gutsy box and to get mp3 support working I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and manuall installed libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1_i386.deb but MP3s are still not play. What did I miss? (asked in #amarok but no one is home)
[02:36] <corvvs> mint: that works :P
[02:36] <B-rabbit> ubotu doesn't know anything about XCHAT
[02:36] <B-rabbit> haha
[02:36] <shadowh511> you need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:37] <corinth> mboso: What engine is amarok using?
[02:37] <nickrud> !info xchat | B-rabbit
[02:37] <ubotu> b-rabbit: xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[02:37] <shadowh511> xine
[02:37] <g_> I installed the stupid restricted drivers bcmxx fwcutter and now the damn thing wont even show any wireless networks
[02:37] <mboso> corinth: the only one I have available is the xine engine
[02:37] <Abyssal> CarlFK: in the tar.gz package i downloaded there is also a install -sh file in the new folder now. can i use this maybe? maybe do not need UpdatingADeb or ./configure etc?!?
[02:38] <hajiki> hey what version of ubuntu gutsy doesnt have the gdm and usplash broken, cuz i want to do clean install???
[02:38] <corvvs> g_: you could try bitchx
[02:38] <jota-____> hey whats the easiest way to control and monitor fans/temperature on gutsy?
[02:38] <shenron> Hi, I am using gutsy and I have the universe packages enabled in my sources.list. However, I cannot find or install zsnes when using apt-cache search or apt-get. I found zsnes on http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/otherosfs/zsnes so I know it should exist in universe, so how come I cannot get it through aptitude? I also tried to get the source and compile it, but that didn't work, and I suspect that that had to do with my using a 64 bit
[02:38] <shenron> cpu.
[02:38] <B-rabbit> nickrud, ahh..so that how u do it..hehe
[02:38] <corvvs> g_: some people like ircii too
[02:38] <g_> whats bitchx?
[02:38] <Cubexombi> I've got a ludicrous question for anyone who knows the inside and outs of Customizing the live/install CD.. I'd like to remove the user "ubuntu" from the image before burning.. <crosses fingers and hopes>
[02:38] <Dr_willis> shenron,  using 64 or 32bit disrto?
[02:38] <shenron> 64
[02:38] <nickrud> an exotic irc client, bitchx
[02:38] <YourOnlyRealFrie> How do I enabled secondary monitor?
[02:38] <Dr_willis> shenron,  ther is no zsnes for 64 bit.
[02:38] <shenron> really? :/ I can't use the 32 bit version in 64 bit?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> shenron,  use snex9x or similer.
[02:39] <CarlFK> Abyssal: if you can make a deb, that is best.  if the new source is too different, you will need to figure out what to do next
[02:39] <Dr_willis> shenron,  i think its due to its use of assembly code.
[02:39] <shenron> oh you are probably right Dr_willis
[02:39] <corvvs> g_: a different irc client
[02:39] <CarlFK> Abyssal: often the problme is pathes that don't need to be applied to the new source.
[02:39] <mboso> shadowh511: I install ubuntu-restricted extras, but I still can't get MP3s to play back
[02:39] <g_> ok does anyone know the url to the ubuntu wifi docs?
[02:39] <shadowh511> xine plugins then
[02:39] <Dr_willis> shenron,  thers some other emulators that also have that issue. they used assembly over the years to gain speed.. and now.. well.  assembly is good and bad in ways. :)
[02:40] <Cubexombi> mboso w32codecs?
[02:40] <shadowh511> i get 50 % on snes 9x on linux but in win vista its 200 %
[02:40] <shenron> computers are fast enough now that you probably wouldn't need assembly to run an emulator quickly :p
[02:40] <YourOnlyRealFrie> BRB EVERYBODY
[02:40] <g_> I need some documentation for a broadcom card
[02:40] <mboso> Cubexombi: I have that already installed for mplayer,
[02:40] <cabrioleur> mboso, what software are you using? Is ogg working fine?
[02:40] <Sier> you need to search g_
[02:40] <Sier> i believe you can do i.
[02:40] <hajiki> hey what version of ubuntu gutsy doesnt have the gdm and usplash broken, cuz i want to do clean install???
[02:40] <Sier> it*
[02:40] <mboso> Amarok was working before i updated to 1.4.8
[02:40] <shadowh511> g_: google is your friend
[02:40] <g_> I have been
[02:40] <nickrud> !bcm43xx | g_
[02:41] <ubotu> g_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[02:41] <Abyssal> hmm... i see. i will study that all first.
[02:41] <g_> thank you nickrud
[02:41] <nonewmsgs> ubuntu logins my main login with a blank screen but a new user can use it fine
[02:41] <g_> that's exactly what I wanted
[02:41] <mboso> cabrioleur: Not sure, I don't have any ogg files. Everything was working this morning. Once I updated amarok, it stopped playing MP3s
[02:41] <extracted> Frame Relay -- uses high-quality digital facilities; uses simplified framing with no error correction mechanisms, which means it can send Layer 2 information much more rapidly than other WAN protocols,    When ever it says no error correction, does that mean it doesn't have away to deal with a collision, or does it mean it does have redundancy such as the tcp 3 way hand shake ?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> hajiki,  thers only 1 version of gutsy..  - unless  you are getting some terms confused...
[02:41] <nonewmsgs> thank god dr willis is here.
[02:41] <extracted> it doesnt* have redundancy
[02:41] <mint> giving linux mint a try on my laptop
[02:42] <mint> isnt it ubuntu based?
[02:42] <nonewmsgs> yes mint
[02:42] <Dr_willis> mint,  yes. it is
[02:42] <Dr_willis> mint,  i used it for a long time. Its nice in ways.
[02:42] <nickrud> doesn't it use automatix for configuration (I've been told that, anyway)
[02:42] <Dr_willis> it dosent use automatix that i know of.. at least theolder versions dident.
[02:42] <cabrioleur> mboso: run amarok in terminal and see if it has any errors when you attempt to play.
[02:42] <hajiki> oh i see
[02:42] <Dr_willis> not tried the mint-gutsy release.
[02:42] <cansado> is there any reason my 7.10-desktop iso boots to some bizarre initramfs prompt?
[02:43] <nickrud> doubt it would now, anyway. Seemed suspicious
[02:43] <shadowh511> no
[02:43] <mboso> cabrioleur: I tried that, but I don't see anything related to my playback
[02:43] <uzerzero> anybody have any experience using nvidia tv out?
[02:43] <chrometiger> i have a second computer on my network "windows 98"   from linux how can i find the ip address of that computer,
[02:43] <Dr_willis> chrometiger,  i tend to nmap the network and see what machines are up. :)
[02:43] <nickrud> chrometiger, nmapfe will help you
[02:43] <cabrioleur> uzerzero: sure.
[02:43] <chrometiger> k
[02:44] <asD12REQWD> hello, I'm trying to get the webcam to work (generic usb) I can get camorama to work but not mplayer (garbled green image that responsed to light/dark from camera) I'm following the directions on Ubuntu's wiki
[02:44] <KingofHearts> What is UBUNTU?
[02:44] <shadowh511> ping it, or type ipconfig in a cmd prompt on win 98
[02:44] <shadowh511> linux
[02:44] <truna> chrometiger, go to the w98 and type in ipconfig
[02:44] <nickrud> !ubuntu | KingofHearts
[02:44] <ubotu> KingofHearts: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <Cubexombi> anybody familiar with remastersys? or rebuilding the live/install iso?
[02:44] <uzerzero> cabrioleur: i am having problems using nvidia-settings to control my tv out settings. in particular, i can't save to the config file, even while running it as root.
[02:44] <KingofHearts> Thank you!!
[02:44] <Omlette> Oo, nice trick nickrud.
[02:44] <cabrioleur> KingofHearts: Ubuntu is an ancient african word which means: "I can't configure slackware"
[02:45] <nickrud> rflol, cabrioleur
[02:45] <shadowh511> it means humanity to others
[02:45] <PriceChild> !guidelines | cabrioleur
[02:45] <shadowh511> its a tradition
[02:45] <ubotu> cabrioleur: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:45] <chrometiger> k   nmap spits out this 192.168.0.0/16 10.0.0.0/8     i know what the first is   whats the rest after /
[02:45] <cabrioleur> PriceChild: you need a sense of humor.
[02:45] <goat|work> cabrioleur's definition is used around our office by the elitist gentoo users... its all fun and games
[02:46] <PriceChild> cabrioleur, lets get back on topic please
[02:46] <g_> I was wondering if someone could help me with my broadcom problem?
[02:46] <g_> i just loaded the dmesg and its a long list of errors
[02:46] <uzerzero> g_: what's your problem with broadcom?
[02:46] <regeya> g_ broadcom?  oh man...I just saw a...hang on...
[02:47] <cabrioleur> uzerzero: run from terminal and see errors. Are you merging with existing xorg.conf or creating a new one?
[02:47] <Omlette> Broadcom support in Ubuntu is bad, that's my problem with it. :P
[02:47] <g_> well it wont find any wireless networks even after
[02:47] <g_> i installed the restricted driver
[02:47] <shadowh511> its not working userzero, he needs to give the exact model # and post it on the forums
[02:47] <g_> I got the error log
[02:47] <keith__> anyone installed ubuntu on a playstation 3? the partition step of the installer is giving me trouble
[02:47]  * nickrud must be very lucky then. Wired up, installed the restricted driver, and boom!
[02:47] <cabrioleur> g_: install it trough ndiswrapper. It's easy.
[02:47] <Omlette> Sometimes, it won't work even with the restricted driver.
[02:47] <g_> ok
[02:47] <regeya> g_ there's also a fixed native driver.
[02:48] <Omlette> I'd recommend ndiswrapper, too.
[02:48] <g_> where is the fixed native driver?
[02:48] <goat|work> anyone have any bash script tutorials and basic instructions links?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> goat|work,  read the 'advanced bash scripting guide' for a start.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> !bash | goat|work
[02:48] <ubotu> goat|work: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:48] <g_> how do I disable the fwcutter?
[02:48] <uzerzero> carbrioleur: i always run from terminal, and it gives me errors about not being able to determine a valid refresh rate for LPL (Screen 0)
[02:48] <regeya> heh, I'm fighting the broadcom driver right now too, and haven't really ahd any success with either native or ndiswrapper...meh.
[02:48] <goat|work> thanks Dr_willis
[02:48] <nickrud> goat|work, install abs-guide, it's a bash scripting guide. You'll find it at /usr/share/doc/abs-guide after installation
[02:48] <Omlette> g_: Go back to restricted drivers manager, and uncheck it from the list.
[02:49] <goat|work> thanks nickrud
[02:49] <g_> ok
[02:49] <uzerzero> i've had great success using ndiswrapper with the bcm4310, not so much luck with the native drivers.
[02:49] <regeya> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578813 <- HOWTO fix bcm43xx restricted driver break
[02:49] <cabrioleur> Is it true that about 50% of ubuntu developers are employed by cannonical, who make all important decisions?
[02:49] <nickrud> goat|work, and you'll find tldp.org useful as well
[02:49] <g_> I got 4311
[02:49] <shadowh511> no
[02:50] <regeya> no what?
[02:50] <shadowh511> not that
[02:50] <regeya> not what?
[02:50] <goat|work> yeah, thats where the search brought me, thaks
[02:50] <chrometiger> anyone know of a really good  VNC  linux to windows tutorial ?    im needing to control my windows 98 box from  ubunutu
[02:50] <shadowh511> the card will implode when he falls alseep tonight
[02:50] <jkfldsjkflds> hello
[02:50] <shadowh511> !inmplode
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inmplode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <shadowh511> !implode
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about implode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <mboso> I got MP3 play back to work
[02:51] <jameswf-home> yay
[02:51] <shadowh511> THE CARD WILL IMPLODE DON'T USE IT
[02:51] <mboso> I had to unintsall and purge everything xine related then reinstall
[02:51] <chrometiger> !vnc
[02:51] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:51] <shadowh511>  
[02:51] <shadowh511>  
[02:51] <shadowh511>  
[02:51] <mboso> !implode
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about implode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <shadowh511> !
[02:51]  * Omlette implodes.
[02:51] <gikid> :O
[02:51] <MybIlya> win?
[02:51] <PriceChild> !offtopic > Omlette
[02:52] <MybIlya> win?
[02:52] <cansado> is there a kernel option i can pass on the install cd such that it won't load any ata modules?
[02:52] <MybIlya> !dcc send #ubuntu HAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAX
[02:52] <cabrioleur> cansado: yes, you can add it to the blacklist.
[02:52] <wweasel> chrometiger: VNC linux to windows is no more difficult than any other VNC connection. What, may I ask, is the difficulty you aer having?
[02:52] <PriceChild> nalioth, ^
[02:52] <jkfldsjkflds> lol ubuntu ops are swift
[02:52] <cansado> cabrioleur: thanks
[02:52] <gikid> wow
[02:53] <squarebracket> is there any way to config samba to allow guest accounts? i'm on vista and every time i try to access the samba share on my linux box i get prompted for a password
[02:53] <wweasel> chrometiger: The first step would be to install a VNC server on your windows box. I used to use TightVNC, RealVNC is popular too
[02:53] <chrometiger> wweasel:  following a tutorial on ubuntu forums, and  i have tightvnc running on the win98 box  as we speak, but i cannot log onto it
[02:53] <matthew> my computer isn't automounting my SDHC card.  is it possible that my older card reader can't handle SDHC?  is there a way to find out?
[02:54] <sc0tch> Are there any gui text editors that have the ability to change print margins? I don't see a dialog in gedit to allow resizing when printing.
[02:54] <shadowh511> use pr
[02:54] <keith__> ubuntu on the playstation 3? anyone?
[02:54] <Abyssal> CarlFK: so this was the error message after using ./configure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50227/
[02:54] <cansado> cabrioleur: um, can i blacklist modules from the bootloader?
[02:54] <astro76> matthew, it's almost certain, only the newest readers support it
[02:54] <Greevous> is there some way to set separate desktop background for each workspace?
[02:54] <nonewmsgs> so how do you fix the brown screen of death
[02:54] <shadowh511> keith__: back up your data and read ine info on the interweb
[02:54] <wweasel> chrometiger: alright, are you on a LAN with the windows box? otherwise you'll need to forward the VNC port.
[02:54] <Omlette> sc0tch: Try OpenOffice Writer.
[02:54] <shadowh511> the waht
[02:55] <Omlette> Assuming you have it installed, of course.
[02:55] <matthew> astro76:  so it IS a hardware thing?  i'd like to test it anyways.  how do I find out what the /dev/whatever is of my SD/MMC card reader so that i can try manually mounting?
[02:55] <Abyssal> CarlFK: it makes the impression as if gcc is not in order but i checked and it is the newest version.
[02:55] <nonewmsgs> after loging into gnome my screen is brown with a mouse cursor and nothing else.  other users are unaffected
[02:55] <keith__> shadowh511: read ine info?
[02:55] <wweasel> chrometiger: To connect to the VNC server, you can use "Terminal Server Client", which comes with ubuntu by default. Applications > Internet > Terminal Server Client
[02:55] <n2u> hi, can somebody explain me, how to install a usb-scanner to ubuntu 7.10?
[02:56] <jtt> screen resolution does not stay at 1024x768 when it set it. each poweroff reboot resets it to 1600x1200 any ideas
[02:56] <shadowh511> no, but google it
[02:56] <wweasel> !scanner
[02:56] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR
[02:56] <shadowh511> !kde
[02:56] <shadowh511> !gnome
[02:56] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[02:56] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[02:56] <mint> lol.. don't pm me telling me what distro to use. Just because I said "I'm installing mint on my laptop" doesn't mean it's the only distro I use
[02:57] <mint> I have ubuntu and windows on this laptop too
[02:57] <shadowh511> mint: sorry
[02:57] <mint> and freebsd and slackware on my desktops :)
[02:57] <Omlette> That's all, mint?
[02:57] <jameswf-home> ummm]
[02:57] <Omlette> Oh, never mind. :)
[02:57] <shadowh511> frak
[02:57] <mint> lol
[02:57] <wweasel> someone is promiscuous with their distros :P
[02:57] <Omlette> I feel inadequate now, with only two operating systems. :(
[02:58] <jameswf-home> I use gentoo when I am bored
[02:58] <nickrud> grasshoppers <sniff>
[02:58] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:58] <astro76> matthew, check dmesg output after you plug it in
[02:58] <corinth> I have some icons I'd like to set as the default icon for folders, filetypes, etc. How can I do this?
[02:58] <mint> lol... I really want to install gentoo
[02:58] <mint> but I just dont have the time to devote to it :(
[02:58] <mint> I installed it back in 04
[02:58] <PriceChild> !offtopic > mint
[02:58] <mint> I remember my machine was unusable for a week :)
[02:58] <jameswf-home> Yeah mint
[02:59] <nickrud> corinth, you'd have to create a theme that uses those icons, #gnome has some pointers about themes I think
[02:59] <cabrioleur> cansado: technically, there is a script which detects devices and loads them automatically. You can disable it and create a list of default modules. You can disable some things from boot, but I've never seen ata.
[02:59] <tiredbones> Where could I find the most current  deb package smplayer for amd64? The one that comes with gusty is a little old.
[03:00] <cabrioleur> tiredbones: it's in the svn :-)
[03:00] <jameswf-home> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy) << Is it off topic??
[03:00] <Timon_Crazy> happy new year!
[03:00] <matthew> how can I find out the model of my memory card reader?
[03:00] <cabrioleur> tiredbones: you just have to build it yourself.
[03:00] <cabrioleur> Timon_Crazy: yeah, happy new year! ??
[03:00] <defi0n> tiredbones: pff, apt-get install smplayer
[03:00] <wweasel> tiredbones: Backports repo? www.getdeb.net ? Or, last resort, build from source.
[03:00] <nickrud> tiredbones, try asking on #kubuntu, maybe someone there as found one
[03:01] <Galactic> hey everyone I just installed ndiswrapper and nothing has happened lol
[03:01] <Omlette> tiredbones: you could download the source code and make a deb package using checkinstall.
[03:01] <Galactic> my wireless internet wont work its a broadcom card
[03:01] <wweasel> !ndiswrapper | Galactic
[03:01] <ubotu> Galactic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:01] <keith__> Galactic: of course not, you have to configure it
[03:01] <wweasel> Galactic: You have to configure ndiswrapper
[03:01] <Omlette> Oriona, just compile the latest source code yourself.
[03:01] <Galactic> I loaded the driver do I need to do more?
[03:01] <cabrioleur> Galactic, you have to set it up first. Did you install inf/sys file on it?
[03:01] <NelsonUWP> does anyone know how to install the flash for firefox 3?
[03:01] <defi0n> +OK ania.1fwrHE/
[03:02] <Galactic> yes I installed the inf sys file
[03:02] <Omlette> Firefox *3*?
[03:02] <skeh> I am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 on a Dell XPS 720 w/ a RAID0 configuration and I am having problems.  I have followed all the fakeRAID tutorials but I can never get the same results.
[03:02] <amedx> NelsonUWP: que version tienes de ubuntu?
[03:02] <NelsonUWP> omlette: the ew one
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom > Galactic
[03:02] <PriceChild> NelsonUWP, firefox 3 is not part of ubunt. Please ask for support from firefox people
[03:02] <wweasel> Omlette: Beta version
[03:02] <NelsonUWP> omlette: the new one i mean, yes beta
[03:02] <tiredbones> thanks all, I'll will look at these solutions.
[03:02] <cabrioleur> NelsonUWP: sure, if you have one in firefox 2, just copy the plugin to the directory where firefox 3 is located.
[03:02] <wweasel> NelsonUWP: I'm sure there's information on that in the Ubuntu Forums / on google.
[03:03] <jkfldsjkflds> is there any alternative to opera or firefox?
[03:03] <wweasel> jkfldsjkflds: Konqueror
[03:03] <Galactic> so is there anything else I should do to configure my card with ndiswrapper?
[03:03] <jkfldsjkflds> ewww
[03:03] <nickrud> jkfldsjkflds, epiphany, although it does use the gecko engine
[03:03] <cabrioleur> jkfldsjkflds: konqueror, galeon, epiphany, dillo, lynx, links, elinks, and meny, many more.
[03:03] <wweasel> jkfldsjkflds: What exactly are you looking for in a browser?
[03:03] <jkfldsjkflds> alrighty thanks
[03:03] <jkfldsjkflds> speed, adblock
[03:04] <jkfldsjkflds> thats about it
[03:04] <wweasel> jkfldsjkflds: That you haven't yet found. We might be able to provide you with better advice
[03:04] <jkfldsjkflds> firefox is fast, but not as fast as ie on windows
[03:04] <quittt> so get Opera
[03:04] <nickrud> jkfldsjkflds, epiphany is about as fast as gecko based get
[03:04] <wweasel> jkfldsjkflds: Firefox has adblock. Opera is probably the fastest browser available, (though not OSS), and can do adblock
[03:04] <jkfldsjkflds> ok cool thanks
[03:04] <Omlette> !broadcom > Omlette
[03:05] <Cubexombi> anybody familiar with remastersys? or rebuilding the live/install iso? if so i need to do something rather odd and need a little help
[03:05] <defi0n> what a nick
[03:05] <cabrioleur> lynx is fast... and no popups! :-D
[03:05] <wweasel> haha
[03:05] <GHOST> h3ll0 there
[03:05] <skeh> no advice on RAID0 w/ ubuntu?
[03:05] <K_Dallas> cabrioleur, i remember those days when I used to use lynx ;) it is fast
[03:05] <defi0n> GHOST: hello...
[03:05] <f1sh3r> how do i fix the brightness settings on my toshiba laptop?
[03:05] <Omlette> Do you have hotkeys to change the brightness?
[03:06] <f1sh3r> well its Fn+F6/F7 in windows
[03:06] <Omlette> Try it in Ubntu.
[03:06] <Omlette> *Ubuntu
[03:06] <f1sh3r> doesnt work
[03:06] <nickrud> f1sh3r, apt-cache show fnfxd says it handles toshiba brightness keys
[03:07] <Cubexombi> I'd like to remove the "ubuntu" user from a live CD remaster? does anyone know if this can even be done?
[03:07] <cabrioleur> f1sh3r: do you have acpi disabled during boot?
[03:07] <NelsonUWP> how do you copy a folder to a different folder in terminal
[03:07] <f1sh3r> dont knwo
[03:07] <Flannel> Cubexombi: sure, it had to be put there in the first place
[03:07] <Omlette> Oriona, go to System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortbuts, and change the keys so that they work for that.
[03:07] <cabrioleur> NelsonUWP: cp -Rfv folder folder
[03:07] <bmack> http://pastebin.ca/839602
[03:07] <bmack> im having trouble installing fglrx i always get a xorg.conf error at startup and have to change fglrx back to vesa for it to boot up
[03:08] <corinth> Anyone know how to create an icon theme?
[03:09] <corinth> For gnome.
[03:09] <cabrioleur> bmack: "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration." set up your monitor properly.
 True'nuff, yet I can't seem to find a way to get rid of it. though i did make the account a little less useful. ( which is a good thing / broke the "ubuntu" users sudo ability ) I'd like it to not boot into it though
[03:10] <bmack> how do i do that on here
[03:10] <cabrioleur> Cubexombi: find passwd file and remove the line with the user.
[03:11] <Galactic> ok I looked through the ndiswrapper documents and they seem way too technical I downloaded the ndisgtk and installed the right driver for my broadcom card which is bcmwl5 and its not showing any wireless networks yet is there anything else I should do?
[03:12] <Omlette> Galactic: Type "ndiswrapper -i" in a terminal, and tell us what it says.
[03:12] <cabrioleur> Galactic, there is always something you should do :-) try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[03:12] <Galactic> k
[03:12] <Omlette> Well, do that first.
[03:12] <cabrioleur> Galactic: just make sure you do "ndiswrapper -ma" first.
[03:12] <Flannel> Cubexombi: Well, booting into it is determined by GDM I believe.  So you'll need to edit gdm.conf, if you also give it a password, you'll need to know a password to get into it.  Also, to remove it you just need to pretend youre usermod, and edit /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd and things like that
[03:12] <Flannel> Cubexombi: or at least, that's the approach I'd take.
[03:13] <Omlette> Galactic: just make sure you do "ndiswrapper -ma" first. <-- What does that do?
[03:14] <Galactic> it says this with the first command
[03:14] <cabrioleur> Omlette: it writes links to modprobe.d afair.
[03:14] <Galactic> sudo ndiswrapper -ma
[03:14] <Galactic> module configuration information is stored in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[03:14] <cabrioleur> Galactic: super. Almost there.
[03:14] <cabrioleur> what happens when you do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[03:15] <Galactic> ndiswrapper -i I did this and it gave me nothing except for a list of commands
[03:15] <Cubexombi> Flannel sounds like the most probable solution,  I've been scratching my head at this, I'm building a USB drive out of the Iso in the end, would like to at least have a false sense of security than none at all... (currently the drive is preloaded with only 1 user who has rights to log on to the company VPN since I broke the "ubuntu" user's sudo ability)
[03:15] <Omlette> My mistake, try "ndiswrapper -l".
[03:16] <Galactic> bcmwl5 : driver installed
[03:16] <Galactic>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[03:16] <Flannel> Cubexombi: You may want to look into other distros, some that are tailored/meant to be used as a full-time live system
[03:16] <Omlette> Ok, that's a good sign.
[03:17] <Galactic> kk
[03:17] <Flannel> Cubexombi: Not saying Ubuntu wont work, but its certainly not designed as a Live-friendly OS
[03:17] <Dr_willis> there are better done Live-cd focused live cds out there. :)
[03:17] <Omlette> I'd suggest "iwconfig" next, but don't paste the output here, as it'll be a bit large.
[03:17] <Galactic> kk
[03:18] <dalegribble> i'm having an issue with gparted.  My partition table has windows as hda1, and my linux partitions as all following.  I wanted to shrink the windows partition, which i've done, but am unable to grow the next partition with the gained space.  I've tried this on the live cd, and tried changing to ext2 from ext3, to no avail
[03:18] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I can't enable "secondary screen"
[03:18] <Omlette> Did you unmount the partition first, dalegribble?
[03:18] <Flannel> dalegribble: Which partition are you growing?  hda2?
[03:18] <dalegribble> correct
[03:19] <dalegribble> there is roughly 30gb of unallocated space before it, since i shrunk the windows partition
[03:19] <Flannel> dalegribble: you can't grow ext partitions forward, only the tail can be moved.  Depending on the sizes, you may still be able to unify them though, through some massaging.
[03:19] <YourOnlyRealFrie> ahem
[03:19] <Galactic> where do I post what it says?
[03:19] <Flannel> dalegribble: How big is your partition currently?
[03:19] <Galactic> or what should I post?
[03:19] <dalegribble> hda2 is 15gb
[03:19] <Dr_willis> YourOnlyRealFrie,  and whats your video card?
[03:19] <Omlette> Is there a line starting with "wlan0"?
[03:19] <Galactic> its under eth1 when i type in iwconfig
[03:20] <YourOnlyRealFrie> how do I enabled sendary screen?
[03:20] <Cubexombi> Flannel. I've tried to convince the "boss" to do just that, but he likes the fact that with Ubuntu, he knows his way around a bit more... he's a fraid to use anything else.. though it makes me get stuck in front of this laptops doing the twisting of the distro to do something it wasn't intended for. ..
[03:20] <YourOnlyRealFrie> how?
[03:20] <YourOnlyRealFrie> eh?
[03:20] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I really want to know
[03:20] <YourOnlyRealFrie> and I have no patience
[03:20] <Flannel> dalegribble: or more importantly, what size are the contents.  Ah, you've got plenty.  What you'll want to do is create an ext3 partition in the 30GB space (a new one) then move the stuff from the 15 to the 30, then delete the 15 and expand the 30 backwards into a 45
[03:20] <Omlette> eth1? Hmm..
[03:20] <Dr_willis> YourOnlyRealFrie,  for my nvidia based system. I install the nvidia drivers. then use the nvidia tools to enable twinview
[03:20] <Omlette> No wlan0 listing anywhere?
[03:20] <Galactic> there is no wlan0
[03:20] <ToddEDM> hey guys i have a  program i want to install, its a tar.gz and its on my desktop... whats the normal/easiest way to install it, and other programs like it
[03:20] <Omlette> Ok, let me think..
[03:21] <YourOnlyRealFrie> Dr_Willis: Right, I have ATI, where could I access the ATI tools?
[03:21] <nyquist2773> ToddRDM - Same problem I have a rpm flash player. I need to install rpm or use alien don't know what to do either.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> YourOnlyRealFrie,  i have no idea on ati. You will most likely need to install the ATI drivers (the fglrx drivers) then  go from there.
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !ati | YourOnlyRealFrie
[03:21] <Flannel> Cubexombi: Fair enough.  You know you don't need to, with a USB drive, use the LiveCD itself.  You can install a normal system onto the USB, and then just boot to it.
[03:21] <ubotu> YourOnlyRealFrie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <dalegribble> thanks for your help flannel
[03:21] <Galactic> thanks so much Omlette
[03:22] <Flannel> dalegribble: You need to make sure to move it with cpio though.
[03:22] <Galactic> for all youve done
[03:22] <ToddEDM> !tar
[03:22] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:22] <ToddEDM> hmm
[03:22] <cansado> :'(
[03:22] <Galactic> this document says to do this (If your wireless device initially shows up as eth1, go back to step 2 and comment out the eth1 line in /etc/iftab. Then resume the rest of the instructions. If you don't comment out the eth1 entry, ndiswrapper won't be able to alias the device as wlan0.)
[03:23] <Flannel> dalegribble: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome has an example command.  Obviously youre not moving just your home, but thats the idea anyway
[03:23] <YourOnlyRealFrie> the fact that I'm seeing things on my computer has nothing to do with my drivers? hahaha
[03:23] <nyquist2773> When you install a package or an application where do the temp files go and are they deleted after install?
[03:23] <YourOnlyRealFrie> thanks
[03:23] <Dr_willis> YourOnlyRealFrie,  if you want full support for all te4h features of the video card.. yes.. you need the proper drivers
[03:23] <dalegribble> great thanks, when i create the new partition, will it create with the next partition # (hda3), or will it create hda2, and move the current hda2 to hda3
[03:24] <Dr_willis> YourOnlyRealFrie,  most likely its using the  'common' ati, or vesa drivers at this time
[03:24] <Omlette> Ok, Galactic: sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[03:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I know, I was exaggerating
[03:24] <Omlette> Find and replace all references to eth1 in that file with wlan0.
[03:25] <Galactic> kk just changed it
[03:25] <jacob_> does build-essential deals with c++?
[03:26] <crush_groove> brb
[03:26] <Flannel> jacob_: yes
[03:26] <Galactic> nothing has happened so far do I need to reboot?
[03:27] <ToddEDM> i want to install, its a tar.gz and its on my desktop... whats the normal/easiest way to install it, and other programs like it
[03:27] <Omlette> I think you want to restart your networking next.
[03:27] <Omlette> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:27] <indigo196> if I want to install and use LILO to I need the alternate install CD?
[03:27] <Omlette> I believe that's the command.
[03:27] <YourOnlyRealFrie> it says  The model number for my Radeon card has to be a 9500 pro or above
[03:27] <Galactic> ok will my internet shut off?
[03:27] <errorlevel> I copied my ubuntu installation from one drive to another.  Is there a page on re-running the grub installer so that the root partition gets specified correctly?  I editted the /boot/grub/menu.lst file but it keeps getting changed back to the old partition.
[03:27] <Omlette> Probably, but then it *should* start again.
[03:28] <Galactic> ok cool
[03:28] <Galactic> thx
[03:28] <hajiki> how do i change my hostname in ubuntu gutsy?
[03:28] <YourOnlyRealFrie> and I don't beleive it is
[03:28] <nickrud> !hostname | hajiki
[03:28] <ubotu> hajiki: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[03:28] <YourOnlyRealFrie> it is M6 LY
[03:28] <hajiki> thanks
[03:29] <errorlevel> !grub
[03:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:29] <nickrud> indigo196, yes
[03:29] <Galactic> ok nothing has happened yet
[03:29] <Galactic> should I alter that other page like it says to do in the docs?
[03:30] <Omlette> Did you do iwconfig again, and see if wlan0 shows up?
[03:30] <Omlette> And yes, you should do that too.
[03:30] <hanasaki> how much memory can 32bit ubuntu address?
[03:30] <Galactic> ok just got a few questions for u on how I edit it
[03:30] <sirAndrew> hello can someone please tell me how i can remove plugins from mozilla, the flash plugin is making my pc get stuck...
[03:30] <nickrud> hanasaki, around 3.2gb
[03:30] <Omlette> That's all?
[03:30] <hanasaki> hmm so if i need 8gig?
[03:30] <Galactic> Check the contents of the /etc/iftab file and make sure that no other device has the wlan0 driver name reserved for it:
[03:31] <Galactic> yes how do I alter this?
[03:31] <nickrud> hanasaki, you'd need a himem enabled kernel, I think that's only on amd64
[03:31] <xobius> errorlevel, did you reinstall the grub?
[03:31] <Omlette> sudo gedit /etc/iftab
[03:31] <nickrud> hanasaki, but, I should recheck I think. Memory, you know
[03:31] <hanasaki> nickrud:  so I must run 64but ubunt uthen?
[03:31] <hanasaki> nickrud:  what about this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2644745&postcount=2
[03:31] <errorlevel> xobius: I did, but everytime update-grub is run, menu.lst gets changed back to pointing at the incorrect partition for the root filesystem.
[03:32] <Dr_willis> ive heard that dependiong on the system/hardware/bios 32bit can address up to 4gb.. but from what i read. its a bit.. confusing. :)
[03:32] <xobius> can you pastebin your menu.lst ?
[03:32] <iamchris> Does anyone have a link for installing flash on Feisty Fawn AMD_64?
[03:32] <Galactic> ok I opened that iftab and its completely blank
[03:32] <errorlevel> !pastebin
[03:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:33] <xobius> errorlevel and your partition table too
[03:33] <Omlette> Galactic, are you sure you typed the name right? There should be some text.
[03:34] <Planet_EN> I have some questions regarding ubuntu installation
[03:34] <Planet_EN> i cant seem to find it working on my system
[03:34] <Galactic>  sudo gedit /etc/iftab this is the one I did
[03:34] <errorlevel> xobius: menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50232/
[03:34] <Omlette> Hmm..
[03:34] <ubuntu_> Wow, some people r using rogers
[03:34] <errorlevel> xobius: By partition table, did you mean /etc/fstab or something else?
[03:34] <Fezzler> My CISCO VPN Client seems to be blocked by my Belkin router?  What settings would block that?  Would I firewall need an execption for a VPN connetion?
[03:34] <Omlette> Ok, anyone else know what to do? This is getting out of my league. :(
[03:34] <ubuntu_> and Rogers requires you to use windows or it won't work... Bullshit:)
[03:35] <xobius> errorlevel,  wait me a moment
[03:35] <Galactic> lol this is crazy
[03:35] <nickrud> hanasaki, I run the 64bit version, and agree that it can work just fine. I use that firefox 32 bit script as well
[03:35] <Cubexombi> Flannel: you still have a clue on how to poke around the squashfs of the live CD, I'm chrooted into it now, just don't know exactly what it is I'm looking for to get rid of the live user?
[03:35] <Galactic> Im trying to follow this document
[03:35] <sirAndrew> does anyone at least know another channel where i can ask for assistance?
[03:35] <Planet_EN> when i run it, it runs and then it asks do you want to install it, and when i go on installation, it doesnt show any drive
[03:35] <nickrud> hanasaki, so by my memory you do need 64bit to address 8gb mem
[03:35] <Omlette> sirAndrew, try Tools->Add ons.
[03:35] <Fezzler> New book out on Ubuntu.  Unleased.  Covers 7.04 though
[03:36] <xobius> errorlevel you moved to a 2nd HD?
[03:36] <sirAndrew> Omlette, i didn`t find it there....there`s nothing but the ubuntu plugin...
[03:36] <Props> I heard i can come here for help >_>
[03:36] <Planet_EN> HELP MEEE
[03:36] <Madpilot> Fezzler, you've almost got to feel sorry for authors of Ubuntu books - such a moving target :)
[03:36] <sirAndrew> or at least tell me how can i uninstall mozilla all together and install it back fresh
[03:36] <errorlevel> xobius: I went from using (hd0,2) as my root partition to using (hd0,0)
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | Planet_EN
[03:36] <ubotu> Planet_EN: Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:36] <Fezzler> Mad: Yes.  One of my new year
[03:37] <errorlevel> xobius: My drive was starting to fail, so I replaced the drive and changed the partition configuration.
[03:37] <Cubexombi> where on the live CD does it auto load the "ubuntu" user?
[03:37] <nickrud> sirAndrew, you have the ubuntu flash installed, and you're trying to remove it?
[03:37] <Whyvas> sirAndrew, use synaptic
[03:37] <xobius> have you a livecd?
[03:37] <Fezzler> Madpilot: resolutions for 2007 was to learn Linux and I chose Ubuntu.  It's been good.
[03:37] <sirAndrew> Whyvas,  good idea lol :)
[03:37] <Whyvas> Cubexombi, are you trying to make your installed version auto logon?
[03:37] <squarebracket> is samba incompatible with vista?
[03:37] <hanasaki> does 64bit just work.. or are there any issues?
[03:37] <xobius> error level have you a live cd?
[03:37] <Planet_EN> Okay, when i try to install ubuntu, it doesnt shows an drive where i can install it
[03:37] <errorlevel> xobius: Yes.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> squarebracket,  i use samba and vista all the time
[03:37] <marx2k> Is there a way to get KDE to another desktop when the mouse drags over to the side of the screen?
[03:38] <Props> OK, I'm having one hell of a time getting skype installed, i was hoping someone here could help me.
[03:38] <Whyvas> hanasaki, I heard it was sketchy
nope trying to break the auto login on a remastered live build
[03:38] <Galactic> this is what the document says Check the contents of the /etc/iftab file and make sure that no other device has the wlan0 driver name reserved for it cat /etc/iftab
[03:38] <Fezzler> Madpilot: But I'm finding I need to learn more about Linux, the command line and Debian.  Don't know what book to buy as a good reference to commands, hacks, etc.
[03:38] <Galactic> but when I open it, its empty
[03:38] <hanasaki> Whyvas:  :(
[03:38] <sirAndrew> nickrud, i downloaded some flash plugin for mozilla, and everything i open a website with a flash object in it, the computer just freezes...and i can`t do anything anymore, i can`t even move the mouse...just the music keeps playing
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> Planet_EN: it doesn't show any drive on your computer?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[03:38] <squarebracket> Dr_willis: i keep on getting prompted when i try to access my samba share from vista, and no user/pass combo works.
[03:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:38] <nickrud> hanasaki, it Works for Me™ no problem. The only thing I had to do extra was install a 32bif firefox for java
[03:38] <Dr_willis> Fezzler,  look for thick books with lots of text.. not a lot of Pictures of desktops. :)
[03:38] <xobius> errorlevel,  I are going to write how reisntall the grub
[03:38] <errorlevel> xobius: Okay.
[03:38] <Whyvas> sirAndrew, did you use the adobe installer?
[03:39] <Madpilot> Fezzler, I'd go with a basic Linux book, if you're going for general knowlege. Any of the O'Reilly books are excellent.
[03:39] <Planet_EN> IndyGunFreak: Yes, it doesnt show any drive...
[03:39] <nickrud> sirAndrew, how log ago did you install it?
[03:39] <Dr_willis> squarebracket,  you did give the linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[03:39] <hanasaki> and the 32bit firefox works oik.. or needs something special since the main os is 64
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> Planet_EN: thats pretty unusual, do you have a sata drive, ide, raid, etc?
[03:39] <Fezzler> Madpilot: I've always liked the "Nutshell" books.  Who does them?
[03:39] <ubuntu_> WHOEVER HAS BELL AND THEY SAY YOU NEED "MICROSOFT WINDOWS", TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF AND LET ME BE!! :)
[03:39] <__mikem> !ops
[03:39] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[03:39] <Madpilot> Fezzler, O'Reilly
[03:40] <nickrud> hanasaki, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 , installs firefox32 and works just fine
[03:40] <Planet_EN> its Sata
[03:40]  * Dr_willis sedates  ubuntu_ 
[03:40] <Random832> after hibernating and waking up, my computer won't recognize USB devices until it's been restarted
[03:40] <Fezzler> square: Check your config files and permissions
[03:40] <Random832> anyone know how to fix this? (maybe reset the usb system somehow?)
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> Planet_EN: thats extremely unusual, only thing i can imagine, is Ubuntu doesn't recognize the controller.
[03:40] <Galactic> anyone know how to get a broadcom card working under ndiswrapper?
[03:40] <sirAndrew> Whyvas, mozilla installed it itself as a plugin....
[03:40] <Galactic> Im having trouble
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Galactic
[03:40] <ubotu> Galactic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:40] <squarebracket> Dr_willis: oops.
[03:40] <squarebracket> Dr_willis: thanks
[03:40] <sirAndrew> nickrud, yesterday....i have ubuntu for like 35 hours or so :D i`m a newbie
[03:40] <Whyvas> sirAndrew, try getting the adobe installer and install it that way
[03:40] <bicyclepunk> HI EVERYONE, AM A NOOB, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL GTK GNUTELLA?
[03:41] <Galactic> I already did that IndyGunFreak Im at the point of wondering what to edit
[03:41] <__mikem> !caps
[03:41] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Galactic: if it is bcm43xx I used fwcutter and had no problems setting up several of them
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> Galactic: those instructions are clear
[03:41] <Dr_willis> bicyclepunk,  looked in the add/remove program icon in the menus yet?
[03:41] <Galactic> I followed the guide but one of my things I need to edit is blank
[03:41] <Props> Thank you Whyvas
[03:41] <Planet_EN> dude, i restrat my computer, run it through the cd, the desktop appears, there's an icon that says do you want to install the OS, i click on it, it asks where to install and the dropdown list shows no drive
[03:41] <Galactic> I had problems with fwcutter
[03:41] <Whyvas> np
[03:41] <Dr_willis> !p2p | bicyclepunk
[03:41] <ubotu> bicyclepunk: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[03:41] <Galactic> I know they are clear
[03:41] <Galactic> but check this out
[03:41] <sirAndrew> Whyvas, can i make you a screenshot, upload it somewhere and show it to you?
[03:42] <mey_m> Arjuna
[03:42] <Whyvas> sirAndrew, what for?
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> bicyclepunk: if you really want gtk-gnutella, just open a terminal and sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:42] <Galactic> (If your wireless device initially shows up as eth1, go back to step 2 and comment out the eth1 line in /etc/iftab. Then resume the rest of the instructions. If you don't comment out the eth1 entry, ndiswrapper won't be able to alias the device as wlan0.)  I opened up that file and it was blank
[03:42] <Fezzler> Madpilot: Good with router stuff?
[03:42] <Whyvas> I think if you just reinstall the plugin it might fix it
[03:42] <nickrud> sirAndrew,   type in a terminal:     locate libflashplayer.so , remove that file
[03:42] <bicyclepunk> NO AM JUST LEARNING THIS., AND YA i USE CAPS CAUSE LOWERCASE IS IGNORED FAR MORE.
[03:42] <Madpilot> Fezzler, me? Not really, mine just works.
[03:42] <bicyclepunk> BRB
[03:42] <bruenig> !caps | bicyclepunk
[03:42] <ubotu> bicyclepunk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> Galactic: then you likely didn't open it correctly
[03:42] <Madpilot> bicyclepunk, Stop using ALL CAPS, or you'll be removed.
[03:42] <nickrud> bicyclepunk, you'll end up ignored here
[03:42] <Whyvas> bicyclepunk, you will get banned, quit being a 12 year old
[03:43] <Random832> bruenig: WELL DON"T IGNORE PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU NOT TO USE CAPS
[03:43] <Fezzler> Dr: Router question.  What setting controls VPN.  Outbound that is
[03:43] <sirAndrew> ok let`s see
[03:43] <Random832> oops
[03:43] <Galactic> ok how do I open it correctly?
[03:43] <Random832> bicyclepunk: WELL DON"T IGNORE PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU NOT TO USE CAPS
[03:43] <Random832> bruenig: sorry
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> bicyclepunk: i already told you, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:43] <bruenig> Random832, b<tab> is bold in a room of 1133
[03:43] <Random832> I know I know, it's a bad habit
[03:43] <Planet_EN> dude, i restrat my computer, run it through the cd, the desktop appears, there's an icon that says do you want to install the OS, i click on it, it asks where to install and the dropdown list shows no drive
[03:43] <xobius> errorlevel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50233/
[03:43] <Galactic> sudo gedit /etc/iftab
[03:43]  * nickrud considers a unique opening character
[03:44] <Galactic> is that not correct?  please tell me its not lol
[03:44] <xobius> errorlevel, I wrote it
[03:44] <Fezzler> My Cisco VPN CLient only works if plugged into my cable modem.  Router seems to be blocking it?
[03:44] <errorlevel> xobius: I see that.
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> Planet_EN: thats because Ubuntu apparently doesn't recognize your sata controller
[03:44] <nickrud> Fezzler, seems like a reasonable assumption
[03:44] <errorlevel> xobius: I did that, but after my kernel image was updated, update-grub was ran and then the menu.lst got reset to the way it used to be.
[03:44] <Planet_EN> its same with kubuntu too
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> Planet_EN: yeah, it will be.. they use the same kernel..
[03:45] <errorlevel> xobius: That's how I got my system to boot. =)  (<-- Using ubuntu right now.)
[03:45] <Whyvas> Fezzler, enable DMZ on your ip on the router
[03:45] <Planet_EN> Grrr!!!
[03:45] <Galactic> IndyGunFreak so is this how you properly open the file sudo gedit /etc/iftab
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> Galactic: yes
[03:45] <Fezzler> Whyvas: And leave Firewall in place?
[03:45] <Galactic> it shows up as blank
[03:46] <Whyvas> Fezzler, give it a try
[03:46] <nickrud> !gksudo Galactic
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gksudo galactic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <nickrud> !gksudo | Galactic
[03:46] <ubotu> Galactic: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> Galactic: you should use gksudo, but its not going to make a difference in this matter.
[03:46] <nekosuki> Good old acorn computers, good times
[03:46] <Fezzler> Whyvas: NAT is Enabled, okay?
[03:47] <Proto> hi all, i'm having trouble mounting a hard drive on boot. my fstab does not seem to use the /dev/sdb* format
[03:47] <xobius> errorlevel, can you show me the partition table?
[03:47] <Whyvas> ok
[03:47] <Galactic> yes your very right heh
[03:47] <errorlevel> xobius: What do you mean by partition table?  /etc/fstab or something else?
[03:48] <Galactic> could this have messed it up?  the other guy told me to do this sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[03:48] <xobius> errorlevel,  no, do this sudo cfdisk /dev/sdx
[03:48] <Fezzler> Whyvas: Let the DMZ Host Address be assigned by the DMZ Port or Specific?
[03:48] <J-a-k-e> is the the place to ask about setting up sound in ubuntu?
[03:48] <xobius> errorlevel,  I want to know how are your hd
[03:49] <nickrud> J-a-k-e, yes, but good sound help is hard to find
[03:49] <WingedPuma> Olá
[03:49] <Whyvas> Fezzler, never saw that before, but I would guess specific then setup so you always get the same IP address from DHCP
[03:49] <errorlevel> xobius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50234/
[03:50] <J-a-k-e> nickrud: well to be more specific im looking for a way to redirect bass to the subwoofer LFE channel
[03:51] <nickrud> J-a-k-e, that's a better question, but you should include your sound chip info in the question
[03:51] <umop-apisdn> "/etc/init.d/bind9 start" gives the following response in dmesg: "Failure registering capabilities with primary security module." any ideas?
[03:51] <Fezzler> Whyvas: What is the IP Address behind the DMZ Port to Specificy?  The router IP address?
[03:52] <Whyvas> Fezzler, no yours
[03:52] <xobius> errorlevel, the 1st partition have ubuntu linux?
[03:52] <Galactic> is there a native drive for broadcom for ubuntu ?
[03:53] <Whyvas> Fezzler, problem is when you reconnect to the router you may get a diffrent IP in which case you'd have to go change it again on the router unless you can get your router to always assign you the same ip
[03:53] <errorlevel> xobius: Yes.  update-grub keeps setting it as (hd0,2) like the old partition table used, but I need it to be (hd0,0).
[03:53] <Galactic> thats the only thing I havent tried
[03:53] <nickrud> !bcm43xx | Galactic (I used this successfully)
[03:53] <ubotu> Galactic (I used this successfully): Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[03:54] <nickrud> Galactic, I have a 4311 chip
[03:54] <xobius> errorlevel did you change to hd0?
[03:54] <bicyclepunk> my eyesight is too bad I cant read anything in here itf it is not caps,am going to a beeter sight that is better for blind ppl.
[03:54] <eldustino> Hello, I'm trying to get an app installed which is not available via apt repos.  During 'make', I get the following message:  "error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory".  Same messages for err.h, & md5.h as well.  OpenSSL version 0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1 is installed, but I indeed cannot find ssl.h.  Thoughts?
[03:54] <J-a-k-e> nickrud: sound card is a creative x-fi xtreme (cA0106) audio, it shows as creative audigy ls under alsa
[03:54] <bicyclepunk> you ppl are way to judmental caps has not beenconsidered shouting for a long time!!
[03:55] <errorlevel> xobius: I have changed menu.lst to point to (hd0,0).  booting works fine after that until a new kernel package gets installed, and then update-grub changes menu.lst back to (hd0,2).
[03:55] <Galactic> I have a 4311 chip too
[03:55] <nickrud> J-a-k-e, ok, combine that info with the wish to route your bass, and you have a good question. Eventually someone will be around who can answer
[03:55] <umop-apisdn> anyone dns knowledgable? bind won't start :(
[03:56] <nickrud> Galactic, I hooked up with a wired ethernet, and followed those instructions. Worked great
[03:56] <Galactic> ok I'll give it a shot
[03:57] <J-a-k-e> nickrud: thanks, I've done quite a bit of googling and have yet to find anything. Thought id try here in irc
[03:57] <xobius> errorlevel, can you see the file grub.conf into /boot/grub/ ?
[03:57] <Whyvas> it's insane how this channel just has an onslaught of people coming in asking pretty much the same questions over and over again...
[03:57] <magic_ninja> my system clock is in 24 hour time is there any way to get it in normal time (i'm not using gnome)
[03:57] <Galactic> I think I black listed the fwcutter file how do I unblacklist it?
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Whyvas: hence ubotu :)
[03:58] <Whyvas> haha i know
[03:58] <nickrud> J-a-k-e, a couple of people who know their sound pas thru here, but irregularly. It'll be hit or miss
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> magic_ninja: um, system clocks are always in 24-hour...
[03:58] <errorlevel> xobius: Nope.  There is no grub.conf
[03:58] <zcat[1]> Whyvas: to me, it indicates an influx of new ubuntu users.. that's gotta be a good thing :)
[03:58] <magic_ninja> tonyyarusso: but my xclock should display regular time
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> magic_ninja: do you mean a particular utility for displaying?
[03:58] <Whyvas> zcat[1], I agree, that's why I try to help as much as I can
[03:58] <CyberMatt> does anybody know how to reinstall ALSA i did somthing to it and now  my  screenreader won't wok at all
[03:58] <nekosuki> how do I change to terminal mode?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> magic_ninja: oh, okay.  Then you need to know how to change xclock, not the system clock.
[03:59] <Whyvas> even though sometimes it's quite frustrating
[03:59] <zcat[1]> Whyvas: anyhow.. ubotu helps a lot
[03:59] <nekosuki> ?terminalmode
[03:59] <nickrud> Whyvas, same questions for years. Video, sound, wireless.
[03:59] <nekosuki> !terminalmode
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terminalmode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> magic_ninja: no preferences for it?
[03:59] <nekosuki> !init
[03:59] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:59] <nekosuki> !vc
[03:59] <Whyvas> WIRELESS
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <Whyvas> mostly i'd say
[03:59] <nickrud> Flash, java, codecs
[03:59] <eldustino> Did anyone see my question?  Should I repost?
[03:59] <Whyvas> ah yes
[04:00] <goldphish> When rebuilding linux-restricted-modules; how does debian/rules know which kernel to build against?
[04:00] <Whyvas> eldustino, giver
[04:00] <eldustino> Hello, I'm trying to get an app installed which is not available via apt repos.  During 'make', I get the following message:  "error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory".  Same messages for err.h, & md5.h as well.  OpenSSL version 0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1 is installed, but I indeed cannot find ssl.h.  Thoughts?
[04:00] <nickrud> eldustino, about every 5 minutes is considered good etiquette
[04:00] <eldustino> Thx, no problem
[04:00] <xobius> errorlevel, wait me a moment I have to reboot my pc.
[04:00] <IndyGunFreak> eldustino: what program is it?
[04:00] <extracted> A TCP header is 32 bits right ?
[04:00] <nickrud> eldustino, you can find out what package you need by searching for those files on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <zcat[1]> eldustino: you probably want openssl-dev
[04:01] <Whyvas> eldustino, is the openssh-dev or something similar installed
[04:01] <Whyvas> beat me to it
[04:01] <thanoz1_> sorry if this is a noob question.  i've been trying to install ati 9250 drivers on edgy, but fglrxinfo keeps reporting back mesa.  any ideas?
[04:01] <jacob_> what is build-essential for?
[04:01] <zcat[1]> jacob_: !be
[04:01] <zcat[1]> Err sdorry
[04:01] <zcat[1]> !b-e | jacob_
[04:01] <ubotu> jacob_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:01] <cabrioleur> eldustino: you must install dev package of openssl as well
[04:01] <IndyGunFreak> jacob_: its kind of self explanatory, is packages essential for building.
[04:01] <eldustino> its thc-hydra, using it for pentesting at my company
[04:01] <nickrud> jacob_, it installs the essential stuff for compiling software
[04:01] <bmoney> !ot
[04:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:02] <zcat[1]> hmmmmm... NM, build-essential is a metapackage that installs all the things which are essential for compiling/building programs
[04:02] <jacob_> it's also used for c++ applications as well?
[04:02] <eldustino> Ok, thx all, I'll try that now
[04:02] <cabrioleur> jacob_: for cyes
[04:02] <jacob_> is build-essential libraries for c++?
[04:02] <nickrud> Whyvas, the fun part is when you help some kid realize just how much fun and liberating linux can be
[04:02] <cabrioleur> jacob_: yes
[04:02] <jacob_> ok thx
[04:03] <Whyvas> nickrud, or how much carnage you can cause with it :)
[04:03] <Whyvas> hmmm, seems like sirandrew's machine froze up again....
[04:03] <nickrud> Whyvas, ah, well I'm working on the next gen of developers. You can work on crackers :)
[04:03] <Whyvas> deal.
[04:03] <Whyvas> anyone need an aircrack tutorial?
[04:03] <Whyvas> ehehe
[04:03] <zcat[1]> speaking of carnage.. "sudo touch -- /-rf" -- always good for a laugh
[04:04] <Whyvas> what does that do?
[04:04] <SpookyET> Is it possible to install Ubuntu without a working CDROM?
[04:04] <zcat[1]> makes a file named -rf, owned by root, in /
[04:04] <nickrud> !install | SpookyET (yes)
[04:04] <ubotu> SpookyET (yes): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:04] <kupo> hey channel
[04:04] <zcat[1]> it gets interesting when the person tries to figure out how to remove it.
[04:05] <nickrud> --
[04:05] <Kasplatt> http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=141624 does any of you know how to achieve a menu bar like that ?
[04:05] <Whyvas> I see that
[04:05] <kupo> I'm having a heck of a time with an install of 7.10 on a  dell D600
[04:05] <Mazzz> can anyone explain why my spdif automaticly mutes itself everytime i reboot?, i have to flick the slider back up to max before it will work again
[04:05] <magic_ninja> !xclock
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xclock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <corvvs> zcat[1]: you mean like rm -- /-rf ?
[04:05] <Whyvas> Kasplatt, I would try to google Vixta
[04:06] <nickrud> !info xclock | magic_ninja
[04:06] <kupo> the live CD keeps reading constantly and running any time of program (including install) takes forever
[04:06] <ubotu> magic_ninja: xclock: X client - xclock. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 108 kB
[04:06] <zcat[1]> corvvs: yeah, that works...
[04:06] <nekosuki> how do I go to terminal mode in ubuntu
[04:06] <magic_ninja> nickrud: thank you, would you happen to know how to get it to display 8-hour time
[04:06] <IndyGunFreak> Whyvas: why would you recommend someone look for vixta?
[04:06] <nickrud> nekosuki, ctl-alt-f1 thru f6, alt-f7 to get back to gui
[04:07] <Whyvas> nekosuki, applications - accessories - terminal
[04:07] <Kasplatt> Whyvas, don't feel like downloading vixta now , just installed again today :)
[04:07] <kupo> nekosuki: you can get there with ctrl-alt-F1 or F2 or F3 or F4
[04:07] <zcat[1]> vixta is just a pretty skin on fedora isn't it?
[04:07] <Whyvas> I thought it was just a skin too
[04:07] <nickrud> magic_ninja, nah, I used it once to see what it looked like.
[04:07] <Cubexombi> can someone give me a hand with breaking a live/install's filesystem.squashfs? I want to stop it from logging in with the "ubuntu" user. I'm currently chrooted into the squashfs, I've checked it's /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but it's not set to autologin, some other script on the live cd must be initiating it
[04:08] <IndyGunFreak> zcat[1]: more or less, i'm pretty sure its RH based
[04:08] <corvvs> zcat[1]: I once worked at a place where the guy I was hired to replace had written a gigantic infrastructure of badly behaved perl scripts traversing a network of Solaris boxes... that's where I learned how to rm files named "-" and "^J" -- not to mention "^H"
[04:08] <jacob_> configure: error: could not find Python headers.................how do i get this?
[04:08] <xobius> errorlevel, where was the menu.lst?
[04:08] <nekosuki> Whyvas, I don't like terminal because it doesn't send Alt+key combinations to telnet
[04:08] <zcat[1]> there's some nice vista themes for gnome and gdm.. throw in gdesklets and compiz-fusion, most people have no idea what you're runing.. it can really look like vista quite easily.
[04:08] <nekosuki> that's why I want to use terminal mode
[04:08] <nekosuki> or is there a way to do it?
[04:09] <nickrud> jacob_, install python2.5-dev
[04:09] <Whyvas> like nickrud said ctrl - alt - f1 then ctrl -alt -f7 to get back
[04:09] <kupo> hey I said that!
[04:09] <Whyvas> my bad
[04:09] <nickrud> kupo, I beat you :)
[04:10] <kupo> damn
[04:10] <Whyvas> oh
[04:10] <nekosuki> Whyvas, Terminal mode is screwed!!
[04:10] <kupo> gimme a hand then nickrud
[04:10] <nekosuki> the text is HUGE!
[04:10] <nekosuki> like 72 pt test
[04:10] <nekosuki> wtf
[04:10] <Cubexombi> no love for breaking the live cd tonight?
[04:10] <errorlevel> xobius: It is in /boot/grub like it is supposed to be.
[04:10] <Whyvas> Cubexombi, what are you trying to do?
[04:10] <nekosuki> I can't use terminal mode
[04:10] <kupo> nekosuki: is there a way to run installer in ncurses mode from the live cd?
[04:10] <nekosuki> it's broken
[04:10] <Whyvas> it's way over my head I am sure, im just curious
[04:10] <nickrud> nekosuki, you mean it's a blank when you hit ctl-alt-f1?
[04:11] <nekosuki> nick36, sometimes
[04:11] <lawl> www.speljohan.net
[04:11] <nekosuki> some of the control f are balnk
[04:11] <nekosuki> some are not
[04:11] <nekosuki> some work, but everything is huge test
[04:11] <nekosuki> text
[04:11] <nekosuki> I have ATI radeon x300
[04:11] <nekosuki> mobility
[04:11] <kupo> what resolution are you running at nekosuki ?
[04:11] <zcat[1]> nekosuki: so F1 isn't 24x80 text?
[04:11] <nickrud> nekosuki, ah. bad bad framebuffer.
[04:11] <nekosuki> framebuffeR?
[04:11] <nekosuki> what is that?
[04:12] <nickrud> nekosuki, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , look for the kernel line with splash in it, remove that word and reboot. You lose the moving orange bar, but you get good terminals
[04:12] <lawl> Why can't Helen Keller drive?
[04:12] <lawl> Because she's a woman.
 disable gdm from autologging In with the "ubuntu" user, I'm chrooted into the squashfs right now and just checked my gdm.conf, it states that my autologin=False, so it must be somewhere else taht initiated the Live session with with the Ubuntu user. I just can't figure out where
[04:12] <IdleOne> !ops | lawl
[04:12] <ubotu> lawl: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[04:12] <lawl> omh
[04:13] <zcat[1]> !offtopic | lawl
[04:13] <ubotu> lawl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:13] <nickrud> nekosuki, it's a fancy way to operate the terminals, and many ati's don't like it
[04:13] <zcat[1]> hmmmm too slow
[04:13] <Mazzz> :(
[04:13]  * nickrud isn't sure he likes this one strike & you're out thing
[04:13] <Mazzz> sound problems suck
[04:13] <xobius> errorlevel, when you update the kernel, the update-grub change the menu.lst? it is true
 did any of that make any sense to you?
[04:14] <errorlevel> xobius: Yes.  I think I might have figured out what I need to change.
[04:14] <zcat[1]> seems a bit harsh, it wasn't that bad a joke..
[04:14] <errorlevel> xobius: I figured it out.
[04:14] <Madpilot> nickrud, the first URL that idiot posted was to a porn site, Then he started the tasteless jokes. That's enough.
[04:14] <zcat[1]> ahhh.. missed the url
[04:14] <kupo> zcat[1]: doesn't belong in  a support chan
[04:15] <nickrud> Madpilot, ah, I only saw one strike. And the first one is a flyout, you're right. Sorry
[04:15] <errorlevel> xobius: It turns out there are some options in menu.lst that are commented out, but even though they are commented out, update-grub still reads them and uses them to configure the automatic kernel entries.
[04:15] <juan> any reason a mac mini would freeze at "# running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" after installation?
[04:15] <wersdaluv> i'm thinking of buying a relatively small laptop. what relatively small laptop can you recommend for me to put ubuntu on?
[04:15] <juan> i used the 7.10 alternate ppc disc
[04:15] <xobius> My menu.lst is very similar
[04:15] <kupo> wersdaluv: new asus EEE
[04:15] <wersdaluv> kupo, it's not powerful enough for me
[04:15] <zcat[1]> wersdaluv: Asus eee !! save you the effort of putting linux on it, it's preinstalled
 doesn't get much smaller
[04:16] <juan> i did ctrl+alt+f2 and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and went through it. no luck
[04:16] <errorlevel> xobius: Lines 56 through 124 are the relevant lines for overriding the update-grub settings ->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50232/
[04:16] <truna> juan are you using a wireless?
[04:16] <kupo> wersdaluv: small laptop usually != powerful
[04:16] <juan> oh, i think he is
[04:16] <wersdaluv> was supposed to but it but when i buy one, i am supposed to give away this laptop
[04:16] <corvvs> wersdaluv: shoot, I just got Linux running on my nintendo DS a couple days ago... talk about not powerful :P
[04:16] <r00723r0> ...
[04:16] <juan> truna: i know the mouse is.
[04:16] <r00723r0> WTF?
 hey I kinda like my little remote terminal!
[04:16] <juan> truna: keyboard might be. my roomie's machine
[04:17] <r00723r0> Linux on Nintendo DS is just ridiculous.
[04:17] <truna> juan only the mouse? or is it attempting to connect to the internet perhaps?
[04:17] <corvvs> Cubexombi: haha, yeah :D
[04:17] <eldustino> Hey Thanks guys, that worked.
[04:17] <juan> he doesn't have an airport card
[04:17] <wersdaluv> i like eee but i can't live with an eee alone. it's processor isn't good enough for me
[04:17] <juan> wired connection
[04:17] <Whyvas> Cubexombi, yeah kinda makes sense, I just don't see what you are trying to accomplish
[04:17] <truna> juan i have observed this, wireless i/o failure locks up ubuntu
[04:17] <kupo> so guys any suggestions on running ubuntu installer from live cd as ncurses or txt only?
[04:17] <corvvs> r00723r0: actually it's got a lot of potential -- touchscreen, built-in wifi
[04:18] <truna> kupo, alternative cd
[04:18] <kupo> wersdaluv: dunno then
[04:18] <kupo> truna: gah!
[04:18] <juan> truna: is there a workaround?
[04:18] <IdleOne> !alternate | kupo
[04:18] <ubotu> kupo: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:18] <Galactic> hey can anyone tell me everything that you need to do to get ndiswrapper working with a broadcom 4311 card?
[04:18] <Tonren> Hello.  Has anyone encountered the keyboard issue I describe in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4044173 this thread?
[04:18] <xobius> errorlevel, perhaps it is  groot=(hd0,0)
[04:18] <kupo> do i really need to dl and burn and entirely new iso just to do txt only?
[04:18] <r00723r0> corvvs: Do I smell wardriver?
[04:18] <zcat[1]> For some reason I see a lot of ppl with IBM laptops running Ubuntu... apparently the hardware is mostly supported.
[04:18] <wersdaluv> have you heard about the umpc?
[04:18] <kupo> thats a bit silly
[04:18] <corvvs> r00723r0: haha, yeah - those already exist
[04:18] <wersdaluv> will i have a hard time installing ubuntu on it
[04:18] <errorlevel> xobius: Yep.  I changed that and the root device
[04:18] <kupo> zcat[1]: yeah i have a T30 running xubuntu
[04:18] <kupo> zcat[1]: and a ibm 240x running debian
[04:19] <wersdaluv> is there a 12" ubuntu dell?
[04:19] <IdleOne> kupo: it has been like that for hundreds of years why should it be changed now....download the alternate cd :P
[04:19] <r00723r0> corvvs: It doesn't get less conspicuous than a damn DS.
[04:19] <nickrud> zcat[1], gateway seems to be making really standard machines as well, every single thing worked out of the box
[04:19] <truna> juan, if it was wifi attempt to connect to the internet, my way around it is, remove the antennae so it will stop its attempt to detect a weak signal and just move on
[04:19] <zcat[1]> I got an acer aspire for christmas.. only thing that took any effort to get going was the broadcom wifi... nice christmas pressy
[04:19] <errorlevel> xobius: Thanks for your assistance.  I'm going to be using those instructions on reinstalling grub shortly.  I need to do another repartition. =)
[04:19] <kupo> IdleOne: hundreds of years? lol
[04:19] <IdleOne> lol well you know
[04:19] <xobius> errorlevel, did you execute update-grup again?
[04:19] <juan> truna: it doesn't have wireless
[04:19] <errorlevel> xobius: Yes.  Everything got set correctly this time. =)
[04:19] <juan> truna: it has an ethernet cable in the back :)
[04:20] <truna> juan, possible it fails on your other wireless usb or mouse or whatever
[04:20] <nekosuki> is the Meta key the same as the Alt key?
[04:20] <xobius> errorlevel,  Congratulation
[04:20] <nickrud> nekosuki, yes
[04:20] <corvvs> r00723r0: but there's also VNC programs, and the nano-X server can run on it... I'm hoping to hack up XDMCP support so I can actually log into my box at home and connect the X clients there to my DS
[04:20] <wersdaluv> acer aspires look nice. zcat[1] does the built in webcam work?
[04:20] <nickrud> nekosuki, for most machines, the left alt key is the meta key, that is
[04:20] <Cubexombi> whyvas, well I've remastered the live CD with another user, which breaks the ability for the "ubuntu" user to use sudo. (whish is good for other reasons) but I'd like it to boot to the gdm login windo rather than going straight into a live session with teh "ubuntu" user then Me having to log out just to login again as the "otheruser" account (which has sudo and a set password)
[04:20] <nekosuki> because in nethack alt+c does chat, but it well, does'nt do it for me
[04:20] <r00723r0> Hahaha corvvs.
[04:20] <juan> truna: if i plug in wired ones, can i configure for wireless?
[04:20] <zcat[1]> wersdaluv: no webcam on this one, it's a couple of years old.
[04:20] <truna> juan wired is good,
[04:21] <kupo> peace guys
[04:21] <wersdaluv> oooh. the latest acers look good. i just don't know if the webcam will work
[04:21] <Whyvas> Cubexombi, why doesn't the ubuntu user work for you?
[04:21] <f1sh3r> how do i redirect apache to use /home/*/www/ as the web directory?
[04:21] <truna> juan basically what am saying is ubuntu seems to fail miserably if there is an i/o interrupt error..
[04:21] <MasterMandak> hello folks
[04:21]  * MasterMandak waves
[04:22] <corvvs> nekosuki: yeah - Meta == alt, and Super == windows logo
[04:22] <truna> f1sh3r, look in httpd.conf
[04:22] <nickrud> f1sh3r, edit /etc/apache2/sites/available/default to the directory path you want. Two places
[04:22] <f1sh3r> ok, thanks
[04:22] <f1sh3r> i did that nickrud, but it didnt seem to work
[04:22] <f1sh3r> do i need to restart apache
[04:22] <nickrud> f1sh3r, did you restart apache?
[04:23] <zcat[1]> nickrud: I think he's after http://host/~user --> /home/user/www/
[04:23] <corvvs> nekosuki: actually by default in Linux using the meta key like that doesn't work the way it does in dos
[04:23] <truna> f1sh3r, its the httpd.conf is the main config file, the rest are just included in..and yes you must restart apache for changes to take effect
[04:23] <zcat[1]> There's a way to do it but I forget.. been a while since I set up anything like that
[04:23] <nickrud> zcat[1], yeah, I edit that file to set /home/www as the development root, moves with me
[04:23] <MasterMandak> how do i fix a problem with my source list file
[04:23] <MasterMandak> ?
[04:24] <Cubexombi> whyvas, because if I didn't set another user, then "ubuntu" would be allowed to Sudo, also on top of that and more importantly, the Ubuntu user would have full access to the company VPN.. which is NOT cool, if one of these keys were to go missing.... as it is I can get my team to just log out and log mack in with thier user accounts, but it's just a little bit of a hassle, if i could get the disk to boot to the login window directly it would make their
[04:24] <Cubexombi>  lives a little less complicated...
[04:24] <corvvs> nekosuki: you have to use the # sign to get to the extended nethack commands
[04:24] <corvvs> nekosuki: #chat
[04:24] <nalpha> guys, how to set default application for each file type? Cause my jpg, bmp file default application is openoffice.. somebod help me please
[04:24] <Tonren> Hello.  Has anyone encountered the keyboard issue I describe in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4044173 this thread?
[04:24] <nickrud> zcat[1], if you're thinking of /home/user/public_html, it's  a2enmod userdir
[04:24] <zcat[1]> nickrud: that sounds like it, yeah
[04:25] <nickrud> zcat[1], that makes http://site.com/~user available
[04:25] <corvvs> nekosuki: there's probably an option you can put in your .nethackrc to make the meta key work for extended commands, but I never bothered to find out
[04:26] <Kasplatt> zcat[1] yes, but I already got my ubuntu looking like vista.  ppl've already asked me if it was vista. all I want now is the menu to be like that
[04:26] <hikenboot> greetings all --anyone know where I can find package wand ? Its a requirement for compiling xscreensaver
[04:26] <nickrud> Tonren, most of the kde enabled people hang out in #kubuntu
[04:27] <Tonren> nickrud: It seems like a kernel issue, rather than a KDE issue.  But I will ask in #kubuntu too.
[04:27] <hikenboot> cant find it anywhere
[04:27] <goldphish> When rebuilding linux-restricted-modules; how does debian/rules know which kernel to build against?
[04:27] <zcat[1]> Kasplatt: not sure how to rearrange the menu. I know how to change the 'start' button .. gconf, somewhere (I kinda know, I'd have to look it up again!)
[04:27] <Cubexombi> any one know what triggers GDM to autologin on a live/CD? I need to break that.. LONG story...
[04:27] <nickrud> Tonren, does it happen in gnome?
[04:27] <corvvs> goldphish: I don't know for certain, but my first guess would be it uses whatever /usr/src/linux is a symlink to
[04:28] <goldphish> corvvs: hmm, I don't think that's it. That symlink doesn't exist on my system
[04:28] <Tonren> nickrud: I haven't tested it.  I have no way to reproduce it, and I do all my work in KDE, so I haven't installed GNOME.
[04:28] <Kasplatt> zcat[1], okay . but brb
[04:28] <Kasplatt> reboot
[04:29] <corvvs> goldphish: yeah, mine either now that I look (last time I recompiled a kernel I was running fedora core 1)
[04:29] <zcat[1]> Cubexombi: system > admin > login window ,  security , enable/dissable auto login
[04:29] <corvvs> goldphish: so my second guess would be it checks the output from uname -a
[04:29] <zcat[1]> Cubexombi: you dumped the livecd to a HDD or what?
[04:30] <steven_> how do i get shoud out of firefox useing wine????
[04:30] <nickrud> Tonren, ok. it could be that you found the kde related stuff simply by chance, or because you're gnome deprived. I just noticed that all your info was kde related
 yup, I'nm cvhrooted into the filesystem.squashfs as we type
[04:30]  * syc_ tiup2 torempet tahun baru : "Tooooowwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttttttttttt..........!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[04:30] <goldphish> corvvs: that's what I was thinking since it's complaining that rivafb is enabled which it's not in the kernel I'm trying to build against
[04:31] <zcat[1]> ok... /etc/X11/gdm/ something in there local-conf or some such
[04:31] <zcat[1]> one of the options is for auto login.
[04:31] <corvvs> goldphish: ah, you're trying to compile against a different kernel from the currently running one?
[04:31] <goldphish> corvvs: yep
[04:32] <nalpha> syc_: hi.... indonesia or malaysia?
[04:32] <qcode> hi
[04:32] <corvvs> goldphish: I'd check the makefile... there's probably a path you can set
[04:32] <syc_> nalpha:  i'm indonesian
[04:32] <goldphish> corvvs: I did, and I didn't see anything
[04:32] <Kasplatt> zcat[1]: ok back
[04:32] <fotoflo> hi all - got a question: just got ubuntu server installed and by default root login is enabled and sudo is wierd
 I've checked in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, autologin is set to false, I'm almost thinking that a script initiates the live user's session ans is somewhere else
[04:33] <nalpha> syc_: happy to hear indonesian people in here, "senang ada oran gindonesia juga hahahha5x"
[04:33] <syc_> hehhehe
[04:33] <nickrud> hahahhha5x?
[04:33] <corvvs> goldphish: well, I'm out of quick ideas :|
[04:33] <fotoflo> im reading the ubuntu docs and it says root login should be disabled by default
[04:33] <IdleOne> fotoflo: where did you get that version of ubuntu? because root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[04:33] <goldphish> corvvs: no, prob thanks anyway
[04:34] <fotoflo> idleOne: thats what teh docs say too
[04:34] <Madpilot> fotoflo, it should be, yes. No reason to enable it..
[04:34] <fotoflo> but my hosting provider enabled it
[04:34] <syc_> nalpha:  #ubuntu-id
[04:34] <fotoflo> before handing the machine off to me
[04:34] <nickrud> fotoflo, you should ask them if they made any alterations
[04:34] <Madpilot> fotoflo, sounds like your hosting provider has busted Ubuntu. Nice.
[04:34] <Kasplatt> zcat[1]: I've seen that same thing that vixta does , but just on gnome.
[04:34] <IdleOne> tell your hosting provider not to fix things that arent broke
[04:34] <Mazzz> is there a way to save your alsa sound configuration?
[04:35] <fotoflo> getting things done with them is a bit of a hassle
[04:35] <RagePrblm> Does anyone know how to set the mouse scroll wheel sensitivity to low mine is off the charts
[04:35] <fotoflo> i would prefer just to fix it myself
[04:35] <Anderson> corvvs, hey sorry about the AFK
[04:35] <nickrud> fotoflo, and what do you mean by sudo is weird?
[04:35] <fotoflo> can i just overwrite /etc/sudoers with a default copy?
[04:35] <IdleOne> fotoflo: ubuntu.com has a nice default ( not broke ) download
[04:35] <nickrud> fotoflo, yes
[04:35] <syc_> nalpha:  i need to pv, may i ?
[04:36] <fotoflo> IdleOne: got a link handy?
[04:36] <nickrud> fotoflo, but don't disable root until you're sure your user is in the admin group :)
[04:36] <fotoflo> nickrud: i added my user to the admin groupd
[04:37] <peterrooney> fotoflo: you can, but you better be certain it's correct  visudo is a better way
[04:37] <MasterMandak> I have a problem with my source list
[04:37] <fotoflo> nickrud: but when i sudo it asks for my user password, not my root password
[04:37] <nickrud> fotoflo, that's normal
[04:37] <fotoflo> nickrud: we talked about this yesterday
[04:37] <DG19075> fotoflo: if your computer can do it, get and burn the DVD imaghe. Less ugrading
[04:37] <MasterMandak> i know it sounds lame.......but am new to ubuntu
[04:37] <nickrud> fotoflo, did you add the rootpw to the defaults?
[04:37] <fotoflo> nickrud: i added rootpw to the sudoers file and no change
[04:37] <yclian> This is gay, my sound device was stuck because evince was occupying.
[04:37] <Shpook> Mazzz: "sudo alsactl store 0"
[04:38] <fotoflo> DG19075: huh??
[04:38] <IdleOne> fotoflo: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:38] <arm9_linux> hai
[04:39] <fotoflo> IdleOne: you mean download ubuntu to my workstation and copy files off it?
[04:39] <Mazzz> Shpook: Thank you
[04:39] <Shpook> MasterMandak: What's the problem?
[04:39] <Mazzz> trying now, with reoobt
[04:39] <Shpook> Mazzz: np :-)
[04:39] <Anderson> corvvs, You still out there?
[04:39] <DG19075> fotoflo; ubuntu has iso images on CD and DVD. The DVD has more software, so you need less updating from the Nt.
[04:39] <Mazzz> hopefully spdif works now once i reboot
[04:39] <fotoflo> DG19075: i can only access my server via ssh
[04:40] <fotoflo> nickrud: i added rootpw to the sudoers file and no change ---
[04:40] <fotoflo> it is in Fujian, china
[04:40] <IdleOne> fotoflo: well if you can fix it then do that. or do a fresh install. who knows what else they decided to mess with in the version of ubuntu you got
[04:40] <fotoflo> IdleOne: i cant do a fresh install without them
[04:40] <fotoflo> the box is far, far away
[04:40] <Shpook> Mazzz: Let me know if you still have problems with spdif.
[04:40] <Mazzz> Shpook: Nope :( digital keeps muting itself
[04:40] <Mazzz> on startup
[04:41] <IdleOne> ohh I see this is the server machine your talking about
[04:41] <IdleOne> fotoflo: heh nm then
[04:41] <nickrud> fotoflo, playing around a bit, refreshing my memory
[04:41] <Mazzz> i have to flick the volume control bar back up, to get it to work
[04:42] <Aquahallic> fotoflo check PM
[04:42] <LimCore> how do download youtube video and play it offline?
[04:42] <fotoflo> hold on
[04:42] <Kasplatt> zcat[1]: I FOUND IT !
[04:42] <fotoflo> gotta identify
[04:42] <Shpook> Mazzz: The main volume or digital volume?
[04:42] <bmoney> http://www.ripzor.com/youtuberipper.html  ... maybe this will work
[04:42] <Mazzz> "Digital-1"
[04:42] <zcat[1]> LimCore: firefox video download plugin
[04:43] <Shpook> Mazzz: Is it muting or staying down at 0?
[04:43] <zcat[1]> LimCore: I use 'DownloadHelper' -- works really well
[04:44] <Mazzz> Shpook: its muting, i have to munually set it up, it is eather 100% or 0 and once i reboot goes from 100% beack to 0
[04:44] <zcat[1]> LimCore: and to play them, !codecs
[04:44] <Shpook> Mazzz: What soundcard or chipset are you using?
[04:44] <nickrud> fotoflo, adding rootpw to the Defaults line works here as expected
[04:44]  * IndyGunFreak bets he's got an intelhda chipset.
[04:45] <Shpook> IndyGunFreak: lol same here
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:45] <Mazzz> Shpook: Realtek HD (ALC883)
[04:45] <nickrud> fotoflo, but remember, your sudo password entry is good for 15 minutes, some of your weirdness may be due to your password entry not yet being timed out
[04:45] <Mazzz> haha
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: where did you get that info?
[04:46] <Cpudan80> What's the WMP plugin for firefox?
[04:46] <Cpudan80> The package name?
[04:46] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: the Volume control pannel
[04:46] <Shpook> Mazzz: what does "aplay -l" return?
[04:46] <Elda> Weee got Vista installed and now Ubuntu is installing itself
[04:47] <Shpook> Mazzz: If it's lengthy, you'll have to post it to pastebin.org
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: do you have one that says like "IntelHDA" or something like that
[04:47] <zcat[1]> Elda: which install was easier?
[04:47] <Mazzz> Shpook: it retruns ALC883 Analog and ALC883 Digital
[04:48] <nickrud> vista is easy to install, it's all the extra software and reboots that takes the time ....
[04:48] <Anderson> corvvs, you out there? I got some more info
[04:48] <budluva> can anyone here help me resolve a usb issue, im trying to get my external usb hdd to work, but its being detected as HID (human interface device) and its obviously not a keyboard or mouse, so im clueless how to go about this, any help?
[04:48] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: One is HDA Nvidia and other is Realtek ALC883
[04:48] <Elda> Ubuntu was easier tbh, lol
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, ok
[04:49] <Shpook> Mazzz: Okay, now in alsamixer, if you set the ALC883 slider to 0 and make sure it's not muted, and reboot, you still get no digital?
[04:49] <Elda> Because the Toshiba restore disks dont let you choose the partition etc
[04:49] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: * HDANvidia = AlsaMixer, Realtech ALC883 = OSSMixer
[04:49] <Elda> So it was create the partitions and hope that your computer went to the right place
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[04:49] <Mazzz> Shpook: which slider?
[04:49] <Elda> Mazzz What computer are you using?
[04:50] <Elda> Toshiba has issues with the sound card which are fixed through the use of a DSDT file
[04:50] <Mazzz> Elda: Brand new EVGA mobo and intel c2d
[04:50] <rainx> Hello all
[04:50] <Shpook> Mazzz: the ALC883 Digital slider
[04:50] <rainx> I would like some help on setting up the thing thats called something fusion
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and see exactloy how its identifying your sound device, something isn't adding up
[04:50] <rainx> its like beryl but better?
[04:50] <Elda> Ah... well dont know then.  But at least with my Toshiba the ACPI was blacklisting my bios
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: disregard, didn't know someone else was helping you
[04:51] <nickrud> rainx, what video card do you have?
[04:51] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: thanks for the help anyways :)
[04:51] <Shpook> Mazzz: I'm asking because I had an issue on a friends computer, and setting the digital slider to 0 and unmuted got digital sound working. Why, I don't know.
[04:51] <zcat[1]> rainx: compiz-fusion?
[04:51] <Mazzz> Shpook: its under "Recording", The digital Slider
[04:51] <Shpook> IndyGunFreak: By all means, help. I'm no professional. :-P
[04:52] <corvvs> Anderson: hey, I'm back
[04:52] <Elda> wb
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> Shpook: well, see what they can accomplish first.
[04:52] <Mazzz> Shpook: it sets itself to 0 on reboot
[04:52] <corvvs> Anderson: any ideas on that tablet?
[04:52]  * nickrud boggles at the idea of a freak being a professional, I think of the Dead
[04:52] <rainx> i have a nvidea geforce 6200 or something of that nature its a 256mb ddr2 agp video card
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> Shpook: do you have no sound at all?... or just no digital
[04:52] <SpeakerMania> Is there a flash program that I can download and use to edit flash files?
[04:53] <LimCore> zcat[1]: oh ok, I simple copied the cache files, and vlc plays them well
[04:53] <Anderson> corvvs, well... It didn't work, so I went back and left configured mouse and synaptics uncommented. I also added SHMConfig on
[04:53] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: wrong person?
[04:53] <nickrud> rainx, you should only have to go to system->admin->restricted manager, enable the nvidia restricted driver, reboot, then go to system->prefs->appearance last tab
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: yes... sorry
[04:53] <Anderson> and im still getting the erratic behaviour.
[04:53] <rainx> yeah but thats it
[04:53] <Elda> If you are having sound issues, try this.  On grub boot with ACPI=disabled or is it ACPI=off ?  If sound works, then it is your bios
[04:53] <rainx> well then beryl is better
[04:53] <Shpook> IndyGunFreak: lol
[04:53] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: im using spdif to Z-5500 Speakers, so no sound at all
[04:53] <Anderson> corvvs, I also don't think I have evdev installed, and got an error when I tried to
[04:53] <rainx> i already have that set to the best
[04:53] <Elda> If that is the case you will have to make a dsdt file which is a pain in the butt
[04:53] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: unless i slide the slider up under "Recordings"
[04:53] <rainx> but i want something like ive seen on youtube of beryl
[04:54] <corvvs> Anderson: hmm, that's interesting - that one guy did say to try evdev instead of synaptics
[04:54] <zcat[1]> rainx: install gnome-compiz-manager (I think it's called) will let you turn on lots more effects..
[04:54] <rainx> sounds like a good plan
[04:54] <nickrud> rainx, ok, then you have compiz working. install   compizconfig-settings-manager  and emerald   to get all the goodies, system->prefs->advanced will give you access to the control panel you're missing after that
[04:54] <rya2> hey has anyone got suggestions using the propriety ATI drivers with a built in X300 radeon card ? It seems compisite just DOESNT work at all
[04:54] <corvvs> Anderson: do you get any results if you apt-cache search evdev ?
[04:55] <Anderson> corvvs, I'll try to install driver again... yea I find it, but I get an install error, hold on I'll try again
[04:55] <corvvs> Anderson: with ubuntu 7.10 I get: xserver-xorg-input-evdev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: its actually compizconfig-settings-manager.. if i recall correctly
[04:55] <nickrud> rya2, it doesn't. You have to install xserver-xgl  and logout/in to get compiz-fusion working (I'm assuming you've already got the 3d working right)
[04:55] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: any ideas, why it would do this?
[04:55] <Anderson> corvvs, I stand corrected... it's somehow there now... maybe that was something else I tried to install......
[04:56] <Anderson> corvvs, o well, anyways gonna try that driver now
[04:56] <corvvs> Anderson: cool - let me know
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: not really... you said you get sound when you turn one fo the sliders all the way up?
[04:56] <rainx> well i cant find it under add/remove programs so i need to go to synaptic?
[04:56] <Shpook> Mazzz: Sorry, I was trying to see if I saved any of the links that helped before, but I can't find anything.
[04:56] <corvvs> nickrud: hmm, I don't have xserver-xgl installed, and I've got compiz-fusion running
[04:56] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: yes sound works when i slide the "Digital-1" slider up
[04:56] <rya2> nickrud: im just using the default xorg that comes with 7.10. i was hoping that composite would work. i guess ill try the XGL route, thanks
[04:56] <mete> hi
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:56] <nickrud> corvvs, you are running one of the cards that ati driver provides 3d for
[04:56] <Mazzz> Shpook: thats ok :)
[04:56] <Anderson> corvvs, should just be Driver "evdev" ?
[04:57] <zcat[1]> rainx: yes, synaptic.. and it is compizconfig-settings-manager :)
[04:57] <david__> does anyone has info on how to configure shorewall rules to enable ichat video chat?
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> Mazzz: hm, wierd.. i have no idea what would cause that.
[04:57] <corvvs> nickrud: actually I'm using nvidia :P
[04:57] <rainx> where is the konsole located?
[04:57] <nickrud> corvvs, you are nearly evil :)
[04:57] <mete> with which command can I "clean" my ram and swap, which isn't in use, but is allocated?
[04:57] <corvvs> Anderson: yeah, I think so
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: konsole/terminal...
[04:57] <Mazzz> IndyGunFreak: alright :) thanks for the help
[04:57] <Anderson> corvvs, just double checking, here goes...
[04:57] <rainx> yeah where i would type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: in a terminal window.
[04:57] <Shpook> Mazzz: I'm hitting up google right now :-)
[04:58] <nickrud> rainx, apps->accessories->terminal
[04:58] <rainx> oh ok got you
[04:58] <Mazzz> Shpook: is it ok if i pm?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: i think he's using kde
[04:58] <mete> with which command can I "clean" my ram and swap, which isn't in use, but is allocated?
[04:58]  * syc_ tiup2 torempet tahun baru : "Tooooowwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttttttttttt..........!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[04:58] <RagePrblm> can anyone help me with configuring compiz
[04:58] <zcat[1]> rainx: once you install that package you'll have a new preference menu option 'advanced desktop settings'
[04:58] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, you mean kde works with compiz ;0
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know, id on't mess w/ kde..lol, i assumed it did.
[04:58] <rainx> alright that parts finished
[04:58] <Anderson> corvvs, no change. if it makes a difference, the touchscreen does the exact same thing... I am going to try disabling, maybe there is some strange conflict
[04:59] <rainx> now i ned something like emerald someone said
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: ok, system/pref/advanced desktop settings
[04:59] <Shpook> Mazzz: Honestly, we usually prefer to keep everything in the channel. It might help someone else out. :-D
[04:59] <zcat[1]> rainx: no you don't afaik emerald was part of beryl..
[04:59] <Mazzz> Shpook: alright :D
[04:59] <nickrud> rainx, that's for gnome for sure, I'm not sure how kde and compiz relate, you should ask on #kubuntu or #compiz-fusion
[04:59] <rainx> oh ok good
[04:59] <corvvs> Anderson: I guess it's possible... but I'd imagine they'd have separate event handlers
[04:59] <rainx> well
[04:59] <Mazzz> Shpook: my mistake before, its not muting, its turning itself to 0 on reboot
[04:59] <rainx> im using ubuntu im using gnome
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: then why were you asking about konsole?
[04:59] <nickrud> zcat[1], it's also used with compiz-fusion, and very well :)
[05:00] <rainx> ive never used gnome before
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> rainx: ok
[05:00] <murf> Hi folks... just getting ready to install Ubuntu 7.10 on my main pc.  I have an nvidia 7950GT and two LCD monitors (diff resolutions).  Will I be able to use them asa virtual desktop ok in Ubuntu?
[05:00] <corvvs> rainx: the default terminal app for gnome is gnome-terminal
[05:00] <Elda> brb time to reboot to fix linux
[05:00] <Shpook> Mazzz: Hmm..I found a few posts that says they got digital sound working that way. Gimme a few minutes, I'll see if I can find something for you.
[05:00] <nickrud> rainx, welcome to the bright side then
[05:00] <zcat[1]> nickrud: hmmmm.. might take a look at that then.. I've just been using the gnome themes with compiz
[05:00] <Anderson> corvvs, here goes again
[05:00] <corvvs> rainx: but as long as you have the kde libs installed you can use konsole too :)
[05:00] <Mazzz> Shpook: alright thank you
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> !twinview | murf
[05:00] <ubotu> murf: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:00] <nickrud> zcat[1], it's great, infinitely variable themes
[05:01] <IndyGunFreak> murf: i've got two displays, it works pretty good for me.
[05:01] <Falstius> murf: nvidia-settings makes that easy
[05:01] <zcat[1]> if emerald breaks my gnome, you guys are helping me fix it though :)
[05:01] <murf> great... thanks!  will probably need some help once I get everything installed.  :)
[05:01] <nickrud> zcat[1], sure ..................................
[05:01] <Anderson> corvvs, so that did nothing... in fact the touchscreen still works
[05:02] <rainx> alright now i enabled cube how do i go about getting that to work
[05:02] <corvvs> zcat[1]: emerald hasn't broken my gnome yet... but half the stuff on it doesn't work for me
[05:02] <corvvs> Anderson: wait, you commented out the touchscreen device in xorg.conf  and it still works?
[05:02] <Anderson> corvvs, yup
[05:03] <corvvs> Anderson: that's quite bizarre
[05:03] <subopt> Where can i find per-release listings of all the Ubuntu packages?
[05:03] <corvvs> Anderson: hmm
[05:03] <corvvs> Anderson: do you have a mouse plugged in as well?
[05:03] <Anderson> corvvs, no, but when I do it works fine
[05:03] <Falstius> murf: just sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings and then run it (gksudo nvidia-settings) and play around with it
[05:03] <corvvs> Anderson: ah, then your touchscreen actually works with the generic mouse driver apparently
[05:04] <nickrud> subopt, packages.ubuntu.com, it may not give you full listings, but you can do package by package comparisons
[05:04] <alogon> I am having trouble with the Ubuntu install disk, it comes up to the login prompt, count down from 10 then goes to an error saying my session only lasted less than 10 seconds if i have not logged outmy self there i some installation problem or that i might be out of disk space
[05:04] <zcat[1]> so how do I mane emerald take over from gnome?
[05:04] <zcat[1]> *make
[05:04] <subopt> nickrud: thanks
[05:04] <nickrud> zcat[1],  alt-f2  emerald --replace
[05:04] <Anderson> corvvs, hmm, weird... how can I tell if it is pci or usb, dunno if that makes a difference, but I'm curiuous
[05:04] <Anderson> corvvs, or serial rather
[05:04] <corvvs> Anderson: might also be serial :P
[05:04] <zcat[1]> wow, too easy
[05:04] <truna> alogon, install disk asking you to log on?
[05:04] <zcat[1]> I guess I should put that in session too?
[05:05] <corvvs> ls /dev/input/by-id/
[05:05] <corvvs> Anderson: ^^
[05:05] <nickrud> zcat[1], no, once you've called it it replaced metacity and compiz will remember
[05:05] <alogon> truna well, it gives me a log on prompt, then it says it will log on automatically in 10 seconds
[05:05] <zcat[1]> Ahh, ok.
[05:05] <Carbonflux> can anyone tell me what the command line for apt-get is to just get a list of available stuff without installing or downloading?
[05:05] <Joelito> Hi! Anyone know how to not show the bootscreens on ubuntu?
[05:05] <corvvs> Anderson: er, that was meant to be "look above", not "anime happy face"
[05:05] <alogon> then it counts down and i get this error when i tries to log on automatically
[05:05] <truna> alogon, which cdrom is this?
[05:05] <Anderson> corvvs, worked right on my end
[05:06] <Anderson> corvvs, its your high tech IRC interface
[05:06] <corvvs> Anderson: what input devices does it show?
[05:06] <alogon> Ubuntu 7.10 desktop for x86
[05:06] <nickrud> Joelito, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , look for the word splash in the kernel lines, and remove that word
[05:06] <zcat[1]> Joelito: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the word 'splash' wherever it appears..
[05:06] <Anderson> corvvs, error one sec, gonna investigate
[05:06] <corvvs> Anderson: haha, no - it didn't translate it into a picture on my end... I'm just used to talking to people who think that means "smily face"
[05:07] <lirit> how can i swap the "z" and ";" using xmodmap?
[05:07] <truna> Joelito, you can always go to ctrl+alt+f1 to see what is going on
[05:07] <alogon> truna: sorry its the Ubuntu 7.10 desktop edition (standard personal computer) from ubuntu.com
[05:07] <Anderson> corvvs, did you mean by-path, I have no by-id item
[05:07] <Shpook> Mazzz: Ugh, google is getting me nowhere.
[05:07] <truna> alogon, no way, any install cdrom i have used never asked for a login..
[05:07] <corvvs> Anderson: huh, ok - well, what's in by-path then? :P
[05:07] <wweasel> Could someone tell me what the default image viewer is in Xubuntu?
[05:07] <Mazzz> Shpook: closest i found was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547642 , but that command doesnt work :(
[05:08] <rainx> how do i add more desktops on ubuntu
[05:08] <Anderson> corvvs, platform-* about 8 files
[05:08] <Cubexombi> ok, I've got a fresh cup of 35 cent cafeteria coffee and I'm ready to go... who wants to help break the live/install CD with me. I need to get it to stop trying to use or add the "ubuntu" live user.
[05:08] <corvvs> Anderson: I guess the kernel on the version you're running doesn't give device ids in udev
[05:08] <wweasel> rainx: You mean the workspaces? You can right click on the workspaces panel and choose "preferences"
[05:09] <J-a-k-e> join #ubuntu-trivia
[05:09] <nickrud> rainx, system->prefs->advanced, general button, desktops I think
[05:09] <corvvs> Anderson: no pci-* or serial-* ?
[05:09] <Joelito> nickrud: what happens if I remove the word "splash"?
[05:09] <Anderson> corvvs, under input I see things like event1 event0, etc no, nothing like that
[05:09] <J-a-k-e> ops forgot the "/"
[05:09] <Cubexombi> Joelito, cant boot .. no slapsh and takes forever to load?
[05:09] <corvvs> Anderson: well, then it's neither pci nor serial
[05:09] <zcat[1]> Joelito: you get lots of scrolling text instead of the ubuntu logo
[05:09] <Shpook> Mazzz: Well, I wish I could find an answer....but I think this is something for someone more experienced. :-(
[05:09] <corvvs> Anderson: but a freaky "built-in" device :P
[05:09] <nickrud> Joelito, you get the old text startup screen, with the [ok] [fail] notices
[05:09] <corvvs> Anderson: should be one of those platform things
[05:09] <Mazzz> Shpook: :) Alright thanks for the help
[05:10] <Joelito> Cubexombi: The "frecuency out-range" :(
[05:10] <truna> Joelito, you can always go to ctrl+alt+f1 to see what is going on
[05:10] <Fezzler> What does it mean when all the sudden NickServ gives me a new nick and I didn't do anyhting?
[05:10] <Shpook> Mazzz: I don't wanna just say youre on your own or anything, so if I do come across something, I'll let you know.
[05:10] <Cubexombi> Joelito, one sec.. I'll tell you exactly how to fix it
[05:10] <Fezzler> Is my system being intruded upon?
[05:10] <alogon> truna: "ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso" from ubuntu.com the error it gets when trying to start Gnome(i assume) is "refusing to initialize GTK+"
[05:10] <nickrud> Fezzler, could be you are using someone's registered nick and they reclaimed it
[05:10] <Anderson> corvvs, alright I'll browse through them, anything to keep an eye out for, or will I know it when I see it?
[05:10] <Mazzz> Shpook: thanks, ill let you know also
[05:10] <corvvs> Anderson: I've no idea, sorry
[05:10] <Shpook> Mazzz: np. sounds good.
[05:11] <Joelito> Cubexombi: ok, thaks.
[05:11] <Fezzler> I've had this one a long time and register everytime I log in
[05:11] <abhi_>  /join ##php
[05:11] <truna> alogon,  are you sure thats a good download iso? check the md5sum
[05:11] <Anderson> corvvs, wait
[05:11] <corvvs> Anderson: I'm currently looking at one of the entries under my own /dev/input/by-path and wondering what it is :P
[05:11] <mckooter> Fezzler: check the server window, it should mention why it changed
[05:11] <nickrud> Fezzler, then you could ask in #freenode
[05:11] <Anderson> corvvs, they all say like platform-i8042-seri0 or somethin
[05:11] <Fezzler> j/#freenode
[05:11] <zcat[1]> so where are the emerald themes?
[05:11] <alogon> truna: one sec
[05:12] <Cubexombi> Joelito: gksu gedit /etc/usplash.conf then change the x= and y= to your actual monitor spec. then save it and run "sudo update-usplash-theme usplash-theme-ubuntu" in terminal restart and enjoy
[05:12] <mckooter> zcat: gnome-look.org
[05:12] <mckooter> its where i find mine
[05:12] <corvvs> Anderson: I've got one of those (maybe it's the PS/2 keyboard?), one platform-pcspkr-event-spkr (under input??), two for the USB mouse, and two for the USB joystick
[05:12] <zcat[1]> it's supposed to fetch a whole bunch with svn though
[05:13] <jburd> WTF is wrong with Ubuntu?  Why is it giving me such a hard time?  It just doesn't work.
[05:13] <mckooter> yeah the new emerald dosent seem to catch em, theres some styles but no themes
[05:13] <nickrud> zcat[1], I tried that also, I'm assuming the svn fetch is borked.
[05:13] <alogon> truna: MD5 (ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso) = d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
[05:13] <corvvs> Anderson: if you have eight, at least one of them should be the touchscreen
[05:13] <Anderson> corvvs, I just have the platform-i8042 series and the speaker
[05:13] <Ben_dew> Sorry to interrupt, but I am having a lot of problems with Ubuntu with regards to installation and flash player in Mozilla could anyone join a private chat with me?
[05:13] <jburd> I've reinstalled this shit way too many times now and I'm losing patience.
[05:13] <Anderson> corvvs, actually 6 on second take
[05:13] <alogon> truna: where can i check the MD5 aginst, at ubuntu.com it just downloads its not like an ftp server with the checksums
[05:13] <corvvs> Anderson: but I only have one i8042 device
[05:13]  * syc_ brb, sarapan
[05:13] <zcat[1]> Ben_dew: the flash package is broken.. adobe broke it!
[05:14] <bruenig> !pm | Ben_dew
[05:14] <ubotu> Ben_dew: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:14] <Anderson> corvvs, what are they though?
[05:14] <truna> alogon, okay, and you have an i386 cpu?
[05:14] <zcat[1]> !flash
[05:14] <bruenig> zcat[1], don't spread such nonsense
[05:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:14] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:14] <nickrud> !flashbroken | Ben_dew (look for the blue section in the link)
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <corvvs> Anderson: my educated guess would be PS/2 devices
[05:14] <Anderson> corvvs, less doesn't work on them
[05:14] <zcat[1]> but it is ...
[05:14] <Joelito> cubexombi: what would be x and y? like 1024 X 768
[05:14] <alogon> truna: p4 3.0ghz ht processor, yup
[05:14] <corvvs> Anderson: nah, but tail -f might
[05:14] <jburd> It was working fine just this time and then boom.  gnome-settings-daemon cannot start.  WTF is all this?  It doesn't work on a fresh installation.
[05:14] <Cubexombi> Joelito: yup if that's what your monitor is comfy at.
[05:14] <zcat[1]> it was last time I tried to use it.. adobe changed the file so the md5 doesn't match what the package is expecting to fetch
[05:14] <crabgrass> okay guys, I'm trying to burn a 4.4gb .mkv to a DVD so that I can watch it at my friends house. problem is that there's a 2gb per file limit on things that are burned to DVD. I remember that WinRAR has an option to split files into many, smaller archives which can be reassembled later by extracting the file from any one of the archives. my question to you is, how do I do this?
[05:15] <bruenig> zcat[1], no it isn't, I don't know how you think adobe is meant to keep the package exactly the same just so ubuntu's poorly constructed flash installation script continues to work
[05:15] <mckooter> use something like this ben: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/12/26/manually-install-adobe-flash-temporary-flashplugin-nonfree-fix/
[05:15] <rainx> alright sweet deal thanx alot guys but of course im not done asking questions lmao
[05:15] <Ben_dew> thanks
[05:15] <mckooter> its really as simple as copying the libflashplayer.so to the plugins dir
[05:15] <truna> alogon, you burned the cdrom in low speed like 1x? somehow higher speed kinda breaks the burning process..i dont know why..
[05:15] <crabgrass> ive tried using split, but i'm afraid that, without cat on a windows machine, i won't be able to join them again
[05:15] <jburd> And this is a brand new /Dell/ laptop which is supposed to run Ubuntu flawlessly.
[05:15] <alogon> truna: it gets as far as the XDM or GDM login screen, the graphical one but when it goes to log into gnome it give me this error
[05:15] <Anderson> corvvs, neg
[05:15] <nickrud> bruenig, lol, and the real issue right now is konq is not equipped to use the new plugin structure
[05:15] <zcat[1]> bruenig: well if they'd open source it or make it at least freely redistrubutable, it might be less of a hassle..
[05:15] <SithRee> any way to have a html file as the desktop background?
[05:15] <endo2016> I'm trying to reformat an external seagate hdd (since it ships w/ntfs) and when i write the partition table using fdisk I get the following: "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: invalid argument.  The kernel still uses the old table... new table used at the next reboot".  I reboot and nothing changes, the data is still intact.  Any ideas?
[05:16] <truna> alogon,  wait a minute, you said install disk, they dont have log ons...only once you have it installed where you get a log on prompt
[05:16] <bruenig> zcat[1], not their problem, write a script that doesn't require md5, or don't provide the package at all
[05:16] <Anderson> corvvs, f
[05:16] <}JC{McLovin> Helllo
[05:16] <Anderson> corvvs, under /dev/input I have mouse0 and mouse 1
[05:16] <jburd> How do I manually start 'gnome-settings-daemon'?
[05:17] <nickrud> bruenig, the md5's were updated in the first few hours after adobe release, but the update was pulled because konq can't use the plugin
[05:17] <alogon> truna: i probably burned it at 24x but i would think that if it makes it so far to boot, load the kernal and get as far as running GDM and just haivng some GTK error that the disk works fine just figured this might be a glitch someone else had seen before
[05:17] <jburd> The GNOME user interface looks pathetic at the moment.
[05:17] <Anderson> corvvs, and mice
[05:17] <Joelito> Cubexombi: Thanks I'll try that :)
[05:17] <}JC{McLovin> Has anyone installed ubuntu on a XO-laptop??
[05:17] <Cpudan80> jburd: open a terminal, type that
[05:17] <Cpudan80> jburd: Might want to sudo it
[05:17] <zcat[1]> bruenig: the whole point of MD5 is that what's getting installed is exactly what we looked at and trust not to be malicious.. so that adobe can't decide to package some 'search toolbar' for firefox in with their binary installer without anyone knowing
[05:17] <crabgrass> anyone? please, i have about 20 minutes to do this
[05:17] <vee_> hi everyone
 no prob.
[05:17] <bruenig> nickrud, how does pulling the update do anything to solve that? konq can't use it so use the broken package: that way no one can use it
[05:17] <jburd> Cpudan80: Aborted (core dumped)
[05:18] <Cpudan80> hrm
[05:18] <Cpudan80> Not good
[05:18] <truna> alogon, i have experienced several problems with burning it at higher speeds..i have a dozen or so cup coasters to prove it..
[05:18] <nickrud> bruenig, now that is the 64 dollar question.
[05:18] <corvvs> Anderson: huh - I thought you could tail -f those input devices and at least get numbers and/or ascii garbage when you moved the mouse or something, but it doesn't do that for me either
[05:18] <alogon> truna: i am able to do the ctrl+alt+f(keys) to switch to a terminal that is logged in, is there a ncurses bassed installer i could use?
[05:18] <jburd> Cpudan80: Error:  You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting
[05:18] <Anderson> corvvs, I know what you are talking about
[05:18] <Cpudan80> jburd: reboot your computer
[05:18] <Cpudan80> Sometimes there is just no way around it
[05:18] <jburd> I did that.
[05:18] <truna> alogon, again, no logon prompt on installs, only once it is installed and it boots where you get a login prompt
[05:18] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[05:18] <Anderson> corvvs, I am doing it to my events right now. I just remembered that
[05:18] <bruenig> zcat[1], then don't provide the package at all
[05:18] <Cpudan80> Maybe your x file is messed up
[05:18] <Anderson> corvvs, someone had me do it before
[05:18] <Aztec007> hey everyone, a bit frustrated here maybe you can help....
[05:18] <Cpudan80> I dunno - Im not an ubuntu expert.. :-(
[05:19] <truna> alogon, are you sure you have not installed it yet?
[05:19] <jburd> A Dell laptop has given me the /toughest/ time installing Ubuntu on it.
[05:19] <Aztec007> I'm trying to reformat my external USB Hard drive which is made up of 200 Gigs and I cannot format it with fdisk for the life of me!
[05:19] <zcat[1]> bruenig: we'd prefer adobe not try to slip 'spyware' like the yahoo toolbar in with their installers
[05:19] <alogon> truna: yes, i all i have done is poped in the cd after burning it
[05:19] <bruenig> zcat[1], the .so cannot affect firefox chrome
[05:20] <vee_> II backed up a file... renamed it but I cant remember why i did this.... heres the contents.... does anyone recognize what this is....127.0.0.1 localhost
[05:20] <vee_> 192.200.0.59 myservername.com myservername
[05:20] <vee_> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[05:20] <vee_> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback myservername.com
[05:20] <vee_> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[05:20] <vee_> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[05:20] <vee_> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[05:20] <Anderson> corvvs, found the touch screen
[05:20] <vee_> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[05:20] <vee_> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[05:20] <bruenig> zcat[1], all the install script should do is move .so's into the correct directory
[05:20] <nickrud> vee_, bad bad bad, pasting like that.  /etc/hosts
[05:20] <Cpudan80> !paste | vee_
[05:20] <ubotu> vee_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:20] <jburd> 1.  Installing NetworkManager disables my keyboard.   2.  Enabling compiz crashes GNOME   3. I can't install anything using apt because dpkg --configure -a needs to be run.  4. dpkg --configure -a doesn't want to finish successfully with fixing the problem.  So I'm stuck in a rut.
[05:20] <Anderson> corvvs, found the touchpad
[05:20] <drewp> crabgrass: rar -v<size>[k|b|f]   Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1]. ?   (i've never tried it)
[05:21] <Anderson> corvvs, serio3 under by-path
[05:21] <jburd> This is the last f time I'm going to try Ubuntu on this laptop.  After that I'll just dump it into the trash can and install Vista back on it.
[05:21] <bruenig> jburd, perhaps another distro
[05:21] <vee_> nickrud i changed the name of everything i just posted
[05:21] <ChrisULM> :)
[05:21] <vee_> nickrud thanx
[05:21] <truna> jburd, can you dump the laptop too, i will pick it up :)
[05:21] <crabgrass> drewp: so, i'd have to create the archive, then split it?
[05:21] <nickrud> vee_, np. Use a better backup naming convention next time ;p
[05:21] <drewp> crabgrass: i imagined that was a flag to use at creation time, and that rar would make multiple files
[05:22] <alogon> truna: i appreciate the help man, i dont mean to be difficult I will test burning xubuntu and see if it gives me the same issues
[05:22] <jburd> truna: It's not mine.  I was helping someone migrate to Linux and now the sword is on my throat.
[05:22] <drewp> maybe i misunderstood the requirement
[05:22] <vee_> nickrud hehehe
[05:22] <Aztec007> jburd: what kind of processor does your laptop have?
[05:22] <zcat[1]> truna: you don't want it, it's one of those 'built for vista' laptops that is designed to be as linux-hostile as possible...
[05:22] <DrDerek> can someone PM me the ubuntu command that erases everything on the Hard Drive?
[05:22] <jburd> Aztec007: It's a Core 2 Duo
[05:22] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any kind of project information for JeOS?
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Listen up ya'll, cause this is it, The beat that I'm banging is DA-LI-CIOUS  rr 55 w 30 r
[05:22] <[gquit]bombadil> how can i change the color of the text on the gnome panels?
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Fergalicious definition make them boys go loco  jj 76 t 79 k
[05:22] <crabgrass> drewp: ill give it a shot, but goddamned thunar is locking up
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  They want my treasure so they get their pleasures from my photo  nn 26 e 71 m
[05:22] <Anderson> jburd, If your laptop is designed for Vista, you will have trouble no matter what, my buddy bought a new laptop designed for Vista and tried to put XP on. It took him like 2 weeks for the company to get him all of the drivers, very reluctantly...
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  You can see me, you can't squeeze me  cc 49 q 96 i
[05:22] <phrac> DrDerek: sudo rm -rf /
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  I ain't easy, I ain't sleazy  uu 6 w 40 m
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  I got reasons why I tease 'em  oo 37 j 11 b
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Boys just come and go like seasons  ll 55 m 94 x
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Fergalicious (Fergalicious)  nn 84 l 66 c
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  But I ain't promiscuous  ff 47 z 97 y
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  And if you were suspicious  ii 2 d 89 m
[05:22] <DrDerek> phrac -- you should have PM'd it -- it's almost an instant ban if you post it
[05:22] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  All that shit is fictitious  zz 53 x 23 g
[05:23] <drewp> crabgrass: this doesn't sound like a 15min project to me anymore, especially since windows is involved :)
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  I blow kisses (muahhh)  ww 6 s 37 w
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  That puts them boys on rock rock  mm 13 j 18 k
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  And they be lining down the block just to watch what I got  ss 25 r 10 x
[05:23] <nickrud> DrDerek, smart man
[05:23] <crabgrass> drewp: roflamo, I know
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  (Four, tres, two, uno)  jj 43 o 88 c
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  So delicious (It's hot hot)  oo 77 s 35 l
[05:23] <zcat[1]> !ops Andrew_Da_GRANDr
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  So delicious (I put them boys on rock rock)  aa 12 l 69 r
[05:23] <nickrud> !ops | Anderson
[05:23] <ubotu> Anderson: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[05:23] <zenrium> how do I install new compiz plugins? I Have found a web page that has shown me 	git://anongit.compiz-fusion.org/users/metastability/atlantis2  but I dunno what to do with that.
[05:23] <jburd> Anderson: What does "Designed for Vista" have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  So delicious (They want a slice of what I got)  bb 78 e 71 g
[05:23] <truna> really, there is such a think as vista only laptop?
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  I'm Fergalicious (t-t-t-t-t tastey, tastey)  yy 7 q 46 c
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Fergalicious def-, Fergalicious def-, Fergalicious def-  cc 88 t 83 n
[05:23] <Andrew_Da_GRANDr>  Fergalicious definition make them boys go crazy  ww 4 c 26 j
[05:23] <nickrud> oop, not Anderson ops
[05:23] <Anderson> o :-(
[05:23] <nickrud> Anderson, still live ;)
[05:23] <Anderson> I was excited
[05:24] <jburd> Oh, this is just great.  GNOME panel doesn't start now.  This is not done.  Not done at all.
[05:24] <nickrud> sorry bout that
[05:24] <Aztec007> Andrew_Da_GRANDr: I thought this IRC was for help not riddles
[05:24] <nixternal> how did you all let it go for so long :)
[05:24] <DrDerek> nickrud - aye
[05:24] <Anderson> jburd, my point is that the hardware vendor didn't give full support even to Microsoft at first....
[05:24] <nickrud> nixternal, looking away
[05:24] <nixternal> hehe
[05:24] <truna> jburd which ubuntu version you downloaded? did you burn it a low speed?
[05:24] <Anderson> did I lose my op?
[05:25] <jburd> truna: Yes, I did burn it at low speed, 24 X to be precise.  It's Gutsy Gibbon
[05:25] <mckooter> @Aztec007: were moving to haiku's soon (kidding)
[05:25] <Carbonflux> can anyone tell me what the command line for apt-get is to just get a list of available stuff without installing or downloading?
[05:25] <bruenig> apt-cache
[05:25] <Carbonflux> thank you bruenig :)
[05:25] <nickrud> Carbonflux, apt-get --dry-run upgrade
[05:25] <Anderson> as soon as I saw that I was going to kick the that rapper dude
[05:25] <truna> jburd, low speed is more like 1x or 2x..not anything above that..somehow they fail if burn at higher speeds..as my experience so far
[05:25] <nickrud> lol
[05:25] <Carbonflux> thanks nickrud :)
[05:25] <olskolirc> hello.  I've upgraded to Gutsy.  I had to mount my external hd and start my internet appending to rc.local.  How do I mount my usb flash stick.  I don't know where it is.  sda, sda1 sdb where is my usb stick?
[05:25] <lindzeyn> I am so infuriated w/ getting ubuntu to run on a RAID 0
[05:26] <jburd> truna: The burn succeeded.
[05:26] <jburd> I did an MD5 check on it too.
[05:26] <tdrusk> I am trying to sync to my mp3 player but it will only let me convert to ogg. I need to be able to convert to mp3. I am running Xubuntu 7.10. What do I need to do this?
[05:26] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: is it a sata raid0?
[05:26] <lindzeyn> Yes
[05:26] <Aztec007> mckooter: can you recommend a good program for me to partition and reformat my external USB HD?
[05:26] <drewp> olskolirc: mine is sdb1. look at the bottom of 'dmesg' when you plug it in
[05:26] <Anderson> o nevermind now Im really confusing myself
[05:26] <truna> jburd, as an option when burning, verify data?
[05:26] <crabgrass> drewp: this is a pain in the ass, but thanks for your help
[05:26] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: you'll need to get the alternate install because you're installing to a sataraid or a fakeraid
[05:27] <jburd> truna: And I'm doing a "Check CD for defects" now
[05:27] <zcat[1]> jburd: the problem is your laptop.. many of those 'built for vista' laptops seem to be deliberately designed around hardware that is strongly propriatory and known not to work well with Linux.. you'd almost think MSFT did some sneaky backroom deal to ensure this...
[05:27] <mar> what is change resolution shortcut
[05:27] <lindzeyn> I have that disc, it is also known as the text-based install correct?
[05:27] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: yes
[05:27] <Anderson> corvvs, time to call it a day. Thanks for the help. Hopefully I will see you floating around here again.
[05:28] <zcat[1]> jburd: so I'd suggest that you ARE going to have a bad experience with Linux on that laptop and you might as well just give up and return to Vista
[05:28] <jbrouhard> I could use some help with fixing my nvidia drivers
[05:28] <olskolirc> ok drewp thanks
[05:28] <yurimxpxman> how can I remove each path name listed in a file? (specifically, I'm using the `find` command with grep to get the list of files..)
[05:28] <Kasplatt> zcat[1]: found a clone of Vista menu bar . it sucked
[05:28] <jburd> All hardware peripherals work with Ubuntu.  GNOME has been the annoying problem so far.
[05:28] <jbrouhard> I have no dri, no glx or OpenGL on my nvidia set up using the Restricted Drivers...
[05:28] <lindzeyn> I've attempted to use that as well and have achieved no success, but I will focus my googling efforts w/ this alternate installation disc
[05:28] <nickrud> zcat[1], now don't start spreading FU^Wtruth
[05:28] <zcat[1]> jburd: ok, what video chipset?
[05:28] <drewp> yurimxpxman: find ... | grep foo | xargs rm    <- each line from the grep becomes an argument to 'rm'
[05:28] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: have you googled for fakeraid and/or sataraid?
[05:29] <[gquit]bombadil> !fakeraid
[05:29] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[05:29] <drewp> yurimxpxman: or    rm `cat my_file_with_filenames`
[05:29] <jburd> zcat[1]: It's an Intel GM965 series
[05:29] <lindzeyn> I have tried fakeraid, I can get through the tut. without some bizzare error being thrown
[05:29] <zcat[1]> jburd: Hmmm.. I would have expected that to be ok..
[05:30] <[gquit]bombadil> what's the error?
[05:30] <jburd> zcat[1]: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/Compiz_Fusion_965GM_Incompatibility
[05:30] <zcat[1]> jburd: oh dear .. well, if you turn off the 3d effects, it should be OK?
[05:30] <budluva> can anyone here help me resolve a usb issue, im trying to get my external usb hdd to work, but its being detected as HID (human interface device) and its obviously not a keyboard or mouse, so im clueless how to go about this, any help?
[05:31] <Helios> i was wondering if anyone could shed some lig
[05:31] <zcat[1]> jburd: wait four months, perhaps it will be resolved in hardy?
[05:31] <vee_> nickrud what is etc/hosts goos for? my backup is different then whats in here
[05:31] <lindzeyn> Well, in this tut https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto, I get errors when I try to get GRUB to work
[05:31] <jburd> zcat[1]: Nope.  On startup GNOME panel appears pathetically old and arcane.  The Ubuntulooks theme doesn't load.   On the second try it just disappears.
[05:31] <truna> budluva, thats the first time i have heard that, anyhow how did you find out its HID? what telltale signs?
[05:31] <drewp> budluva: pastebin the end of your dmesg, perhaps?
[05:31] <jburd> compiz was working on an earlier installation.  Why not now?
[05:31] <lindzeyn> I have decided to go ahead and use the Vista bootloader
[05:32] <lindzeyn> but now I cant get gparted to format an ext3 partition
[05:32] <nickrud> vee_, it's essential for system operation, it defines the basic network addresses for the machine.     127.0.0.1  localhost   <newline>  127.0.1.1 <hostname>   are the two absolutely critical lines
[05:32] <rainx> so can someone direct me to a cool theme I like blue and black
[05:32] <lindzeyn> it says that the partition is already in use by the system
[05:32] <sapumal> budluva: can you use usb flash drives successfuly?
[05:32] <lindzeyn> it = gparted
[05:33] <budluva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50203/
[05:33] <budluva> sapumal, dont have a flash drive to test
[05:33] <jburd> truna: Integrity check successful.
[05:33] <vee_> nickrud changing this in 'Manual Network Conf" in the top-right corner of the screen is that same thing??
[05:33] <nickrud> vee_, the 192.xx.xx.xx <names> you had are optional
[05:33] <steven_> hi i need help mounting a extranl hdd
[05:33] <drewp> one host is seeing an old version of /nfs/shared/file1 even though i've restarted nfs-common and nfs-user-server. Are there other ways to flush the cache?
[05:34] <nickrud> vee_, no. That's something different, used for addressing outside the machine.
[05:34] <budluva> truna, look at pastebin for telltale signs :P
[05:34] <jburd> What does "OEM install" do?
[05:34] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: check to make sure that partition isnt mounted
[05:34] <vee_> nickrud so whe would one want to alter this file?
[05:35] <nickrud> vee_, if you don't have those two lines, gnome and sudo are not going to work properly.   It can also be used to identify machines on your local network so you can address them by name, not just by ip number.
[05:35] <drewp> budluva: anything interesting right above that? i'm hoping that the usb disk module tried to load and made some message about why it didn't like your device
[05:35] <budluva> i tried to modprobe --remove ehci_hcd and try unplug and plug back in the hdd but same thing, now ohci is trying to load it and its not working either
[05:35] <lindzeyn> okay
[05:35] <budluva> drewp, no, just usb device disconnected
[05:35] <budluva> drewp, i cant find any errors
[05:35] <steven_> hello
[05:35] <steven_> '
[05:35] <steven_> ???
[05:36] <ponty> hey, i know how to associate a filetype with an application (right click, properties, open with, etc.), but i need to learn how to associate an icon with a particular filetype...i searched the forum, but no luck...can anyone help?
[05:36] <vee_> nickrud ok.  at this point my current file only has a local host
[05:36] <goat|work> !patience | steven_
[05:36] <ubotu> steven_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:36] <nickrud> vee_, say for example you have a machine on your network named james, with the fixed ip of 192.168.0.144 . If you put the line  192.168.0.144  james in that file, you can do ssh me@james instead of ssh me@192.168.0.144
[05:36] <steven_> sorry
[05:36] <the_empty> hey all- Xorg seems to have forgotten my resolution settings- what's the reconfig command?
[05:36] <zenrium> I am trying to run git clone git://anongit.compiz-fusion.org/users/metastability/atlantis2  but after installing git from synaptic pack mngr I still dont have the command git? wtf?
[05:37] <yurimxpxman> drewp: Thanks! I got it with: find ./ | grep desktop.ini | xargs -d $'\n' rm
[05:37] <budluva> the_empty, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg ???
[05:37] <the_empty> let me try that budluva
[05:37] <steven_> i need help mouting a Hdd
[05:37] <jburd> zenrium: You probably installed 'git' which is not the git you are trying to use.
[05:37] <nickrud> the_empty,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <vee_> nickrud so would the same work in revierse... if i put my machine in there.... would another machine be able to access it by SSH (BTW i have SSH installed)
[05:37] <Carbonflux> can I find development libs in the ubuntu packages ? I need the libGL stuff and SDL ?
[05:37] <budluva> xserver-xorg ahh right thanks NickRivers
[05:37] <budluva> nickrud even
[05:37] <zenrium> jburd: that'd make me a bit of a git them wouldn't it :P :)  which one am I after? a client ver is my guess.
[05:37] <goat|work> steven_: what is wrong?
[05:37] <drewp> yurimxpxman: cool
[05:38] <budluva> so any thoughts on my usb issue anyone?
[05:38] <zenrium> or git-core.. hmmm
[05:38] <hanasaki> X -version says "X Window System Version 1.3.0"   X org is on 7.3   whts up with the numbering?
[05:38] <nickrud> vee_, if that machine has a correspoding entry for your machine and it's ip address in it's own /etc/hosts.   That file is the really old school networking system, before dns
[05:38] <yurimxpxman> drewp: all those nasty files XP leaves behind on my portable drives.. grrr! haha
[05:38] <steven_> when i pulg in my extrnla hdd i get a canoot mount vol.um
[05:38] <nickrud> budluva, didn't see yours :)
[05:39] <jburd> zenrium: sudo aptitude install git-core git-svn git-p4 git-arch git-completion git-email gitk qgit giggle git-cvs git-doc git-buildpackage gitweb git-load-dirs
[05:39] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: i'm going to sleep, good luck with your fakeraid
[05:39] <the_empty> nickrud, that looks to be it thanks
[05:39] <zenrium> jburd: cheers :)
[05:39] <goat|work> steven_: pastebin your dmesg output after connecting the external hard drive
[05:39] <vee_> nickrud so at this point theres really no reason to alter it for SSH or any file sharing?
[05:39] <nickrud> vee_, if you have no other machines on your network, no
[05:39] <hanasaki> what version of xorg is 7.10 on?
[05:39] <lindzeyn> [gquit]bombadil: a softRAID + ubuntu installation should be fine in conjunction with the Vista bootloader correct?  Ubuntu wont wipe the MBA and softRAID doesnt need GRUB?
[05:39] <DrDerek> I can eat my own weight in cocktail wieners
[05:40] <budluva> nickrud, trying to get my ext. usb hdd working, but its being detected as a HID (keyboard/mouse) and its not giving me a device block number to mount, no sdX so im just wondering how to get it to detect properly
[05:40] <vee_> nickrud I have OSX and windows boxes on it
[05:40] <budluva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50203/
[05:40] <[gquit]bombadil> lindzeyn: i cant say for sure, i've never dual booted a fakeraid
[05:40] <nickrud> vee_, the osx box may have an /etc/hosts file, but I'm not familiar with bsd variants. Windows I have no freaking clue how it works
[05:40] <lindzeyn> [gquit]bombadil: alrighty, thanks for your help
[05:41] <vee_> nickrud thanks so much for the info
[05:41] <nickrud> budluva, saw that, and said to myself, 'slowly walk away from the question'
[05:41] <budluva> windows uses the same type of hosts file, dont know where its located though
[05:41] <budluva> haha\
[05:41] <vee_> nickrud i never put swap on my machine.... should i bother with it?
[05:41] <subverso> hello... everyone! good night
[05:41] <vee_> nickrud I have 4gb of RAM
[05:41] <subverso> could someone help me with the console
[05:41] <nickrud> vee_, if you have lots of memory, no real point, unless you intend to hibernate. hibernation uses the swap partition by default
[05:41] <mar> what could be wrong if press ctrl+alt+1 my screen becomes black and on the top there are some green/white random spots
[05:42] <vee_> nickrud whats hib. good for?
[05:42] <hanasaki> how can I find out the version of xorg in 7.10
[05:42] <drewp> hanasaki: X -version
[05:42] <triplc> (newbie need advice) please recommend a good software that allows anonymous browsing? I checked Internet and found TOR (torproject.org) but i am looking to see if there is a better/alternative
[05:42] <vee_> nickrud if im going to run the box remotely woudl i use hibernation?
[05:43] <nickrud> vee_, if you have some apps open, want to shut down but when you turn the machine on have it return to the state it was when you turned it off
[05:43] <nickrud> vee_, useful for desktops, remote you'd have to decide.
[05:43] <hanasaki> drewp: that says 1.3.0 but x.org says they are on 7.3   it doesnt make sense tome..
[05:44] <drewp> hanasaki: mine says "X Window System Version 7.2.0"
[05:44] <SithRee> has anyone run into a situation where a video they wanted to play back just showed a black screen and had sound?
[05:44] <vee_> nickrud so whats a good swap to put on then.... 1 gb max?
[05:44] <hanasaki> ~pastbin
[05:44] <drewp> SithRee: if your player doesn't have the codec for the video frames, it may omit them and just run the sound
[05:44] <loudnlownoma> vee_: How much RAM do you have on the computer?
[05:44] <hanasaki> hmmm where is pastebin
[05:44] <vee_> nickrud 4gb
[05:44] <nickrud> vee_, I started with 1gb swap with 1gb mem, but the swap was too small to hibernate on according the the syslog. I increased to 2gb
[05:45] <drewp> SithRee: you'd probably get an error on the console like "Unsupported video format QV43"
[05:45] <hanasaki> drewp:  can you paste what you got to me
[05:45] <nickrud> hanasaki, X is starting a rename, 7 is 1
[05:45] <loudnlownoma> vee_: Most info that I have seen(and what I have had no trouble with) is usually around 2-2.5 times the total system ram
[05:46] <drewp> hanasaki: http://rafb.net/p/OdHedB42.html
[05:46] <nickrud> vee_, up to 2gb, 8gig swap would be insane :)
[05:46] <hanasaki> drewp: but yours says that?  mine is "X Window System Version 1.3.0"  your on what ver of ubuntu
[05:46] <jburd> For hibernation to work you certainly need more swap space than the amount of RAM you have.
[05:46] <vee_> nickrud i can do 2gb... i cant see me needing more than that
[05:46] <vee_> nickrud prolly wont even use it
[05:46] <loudnlownoma> vee_: You can probably get away with less, and some I have seen swear you may not even need that much, but it will use it I suppose
[05:47] <jburd> It basically dumps your memory to disk and reloads the image back in to memory when you start up.
[05:47] <debian> Lil Boozie
[05:47] <loudnlownoma> nickrud: yeah - I have 3gb in my desktop and for some reason the gutsy installer wanted to use 9gb
[05:47] <debian> B.O.O.S.I.E. B.A.D.A.Z.Z. that's me
[05:47] <debian> Wipe Me Down  310253
[05:47] <debian> Red bones caramels all of em stop and stare all of em try and steal my underwear
[05:47] <debian> Wipe Me Down  102671
[05:47] <hanasaki> drewp:  ahh your on that.. i am on 7.10 no wonder.. thanks
[05:47] <debian> Like to floss like Rick Ross got a hit called set it off when i sing it everybody set it off
[05:47] <debian> Wipe Me Down  64087
[05:47] <debian> Black mink im yea im on play wit me i bust ya dome 8 whips on chrome you can gon
[05:47] <hanasaki> @!
[05:47] <nickrud> vee_, jburd could have a point. I'm running 2gig now, and I can still hibernate in 2g swap though
[05:47] <debian> Wipe Me Down  263359
[05:47] <debian> Fresh fade fresh j's on the corner playin spades im an ordinary person but im paid
[05:47] <debian> Wipe Me Down  62453
[05:47] <debian> !ops
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[05:47] <debian> Foxx flippin Webbie smokin and we chokin off a whole pound of purple famous like tha ninja turtles
[05:47] <vee_> nickrud im running UB 7.10 server
[05:47] <nixternal> heh
[05:47] <nickrud> now that was weird
[05:48] <Cubexombi> doing what with nija turtles?
[05:48] <Madpilot> duelling op scripts FTW
[05:48] <jburd> I've always had problems with getting Hibernate to work so I don't use it much anyway.  I have 4 GB of RAM in my machine too and a 4 GB swap partition.
[05:48] <hanasaki> drewp: so 1.3.0 is 7.3?
[05:48] <nickrud> vee_, don't see a reason for hibernate on a server
[05:48] <neur1> what was that?
[05:48] <zenrium> jburd - each git I download (which works now thanks :)) seems to error out on the options.h - e.g:[build/atlantis_options.h] Error 127  not sure why the file would be missing from the download?
[05:48] <triplc> (newbie need advice) please recommend a good software that allows anonymous browsing? I checked Internet and found TOR (torproject.org) but i am looking to see if there is a better/alternative (repost the question, sorry)
[05:49] <nickrud> some op game :)
[05:49] <jburd> zenrium, sudo aptitude remove git    <-- that's the package you don't want.
[05:49] <crdlb> zenrium: because that file is generated
[05:49] <jburd> zenrium: Re-clone.
[05:49] <vee_> jburd nickrud  if hobernate is just to pick up where you left offf, like a shortcut to where you were working last... i can do without it.... unless im missing something from that
[05:49] <nickrud> triplc, that's the recommended one from what I hear. I'd google tor anonymous review , see some alternatives
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> triplc: TOR is probably the way to go, although I can't say I understand it.
[05:49] <crdlb> zenrium: join #compiz-fusion please
[05:49] <alex_mayorga_> !blueprint
[05:49] <nickrud> vee_, nope, you got it
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blueprint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <simmerz> anyone have a working modeline for a 1680x1050 laptop display? I'm trying to get the new ATI driver to work properly
[05:50] <penguingu1> triplc - I'm pretty sure TOR is the best...
[05:50] <jbrouhard> Anyone here using nvidia-settings with the restricted drivers package ?
[05:50] <triplc> thanks
[05:50] <zenrium> k sorry joining that now then.
[05:50] <rainx> what are .sh install files?
[05:50] <vee_> nickrud mac has it where you automatically open a app on startup but it deosnt start where you left off
[05:50] <rainx> is ubuntu able to install .sh?
[05:50] <Ben_dew> How do you unpack an archive?
[05:51] <loudnlownoma> jbrouhard: I have it in my menu, but haven't had much use for it yet...  what's up?
[05:51] <vee_> nickrud never really liked the way that functioned either.... just another thing slowing up startup
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> rainx: uh, what are you trying to install?
[05:51] <drewp> rainx: shell scripts- you can look at them in a text editor. Install like "sh somefile.sh"
[05:51] <nickrud> vee_, different situation, that's restarting the app. hibernate (and sleep) save the state of the app, and return it to that point without restarting the app
[05:51] <rainx> well codeweaver
[05:51] <drewp> rainx: maybe better is "chmod a+x somefile.sh" then "./somefile.sh" (so it can choose its own correct shell)
[05:51] <jbrouhard> loudnlownoma I'm having major problems getting openGL to work with my nvidia drivers
[05:52] <rainx> ok im still a noob to linux
[05:52] <rainx> i know some of the basics but have no clue on most of it
[05:52] <loudnlownoma> jbrouhard: Ahhh    Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:52] <vee_> nickrud if i go to hib. now and try to startup i should see if it has problems, right?
[05:52] <drewp> rainx: do you have a shell window where you could enter those commands?
[05:52] <nickrud> vee_, yes.
[05:52] <rainx> you mean like terminal
[05:52] <loudnlownoma> (takes a seat next to rainx on the noob bench)   :)
[05:52] <drewp> rainx: yep
[05:52] <saxartist> Is it harmful to leave a laptop on "all the time" as in overnight running ubuntu?
[05:53] <nickrud> vee_, but I can promise you if you have no swap, you have no hibernate
[05:53] <drewp> rainx: there might be a GUI way to set the file executable, but i wouldn't know what it is
[05:53] <nickrud> saxartist, no
[05:53] <B_166-ER-X> Hi, i have a very 'ubuntu' question.. : I would like to know.. 'Who' are the peaple on the ubuntu cd's cover ?
[05:53] <rainx> ok i have the file on my desktop
[05:53] <drewp> rainx: what i know will work is if you get a terminal up, change directory to where your file is, then chmod and run it
[05:53] <jbrouhard> loudnlownoma: 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[05:53] <vee_> nickrud i just tried hib..... now i have to wake the giant!
[05:53] <jbrouhard> loudnlownoma WOuld it be easier to go to another room or PM me ?
[05:53] <drewp> rainx: that directory is probably known in the terminal as ~/Desktop, so you could run "cd ~/Desktop" to get there
[05:54] <{Nathan}_> Is it possible to boot from a external HD via grub?
[05:54] <drewp> rainx: (cd is 'change directory')   Then use 'ls' (list files) to confirm that you're in the directory with somefile.sh
[05:54] <rainx> alright
[05:54] <vee_> nickrud gave me en error message when i logged back in.... Sleep Problem... Your comp. field to hib. Chekc the...
[05:54] <rainx> im on the desktop where the file is what would i type?
[05:55] <nickrud> vee_, the /var/log/syslog :)
[05:55] <drewp> now  "chmod a+x somefile.sh" then "./somefile.sh"
[05:55] <nickrud> vee_, so you're on the right track now. I need to go, but I'm around most days.
[05:55] <drewp> rainx: means "change the mode of this file so 'a'll the users can e'x'ecute it"    then ./somefile.sh runs it like any other program (but the ./ says "the program is right here in this directory, don't look elsewhere")
[05:56] <vee_> nickrud thanx... to give it swap i have to reinstall right.... thank you so much
[05:56] <nickrud> vee_, not necessarily, you can use gparted to resize a partition, maybe. See you around
[05:56] <vee_> nickrud peace
[05:56] <rainx> ok i set it so everyone can e x ecute it
[05:57] <rainx> but i typed "chmod a+x install-crossover-pro.sh" and nothing happend
[05:57] <drewp> rainx: there won't be any result from chmod, but if you run "ls -l" now, you should see the new mode
[05:57] <corvvs> rainx: chmod won't give you any feedback unless something goes wrong
[05:58] <rainx> oh ok
[05:58] <drewp> something like "-rw-r--r--" is a readable file, "-rwxr-xr-x" is executable
[05:58] <{Nathan}_> How do I find out the size of a directory from the console?
[05:58] <drewp> du -s .
[05:58] <corvvs> {Nathan}_: du -hs /path/to/directory
[05:58] <rainx> alright!
[05:58] <subverso> some help with console please
[05:58] <{Nathan}_> thanks guys!
[05:59] <rainx> now its uncompressing
[05:59] <Dr_willis> subverso,  more details - will be helpfull.
[05:59] <corvvs> {Nathan}_: if you don't use -s it'll also give you the sizes for all the subdirectories
[05:59] <rainx> alright its installing
[05:59] <subverso> I cant see my console when I hit ctrl+alt+f1
[05:59] <drewp> {Nathan}_: i highly recommend kdirstat, too
[05:59] <Ben_dew> I used the SGD and now I get the grub menu, but when I select to boot into Ubuntu I still get error 17, any suggestions?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> subverso,  try disabling the framebuffer (with nofb) in the grub boot entry , when you reboot for a start.
[06:00] <subverso> Dr_willis, nice... thanks I gonna try
[06:00] <drewp> rainx: it may run into permission problems if it tries to install to system areas. you may need to rerun like "sudo ./install-crossover-pro.sh" if that happens
[06:00] <yurimxpxman> Ben_dew: that happens to me.. try booting from another hard disk drive if you have one. That's what solved it for me
[06:00] <rainx> well its installed
[06:00] <Ben_dew> You mean install linux on another drive?
[06:00] <rainx> thanx alot drewp
[06:00] <Dr_willis> subverso,  i change the menu.lst --> # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb   , then 'sudo update-grub' that way its the default.
[06:00] <drewp> (which stands for "super-user do <some command>")
[06:00] <drewp> rainx: np
[06:01] <rainx> super-user.....? basically root right
[06:01] <drewp> yes, exactly the same as root
[06:01] <subverso> Dr_willis, is th grub taht controls the config of console?
[06:01] <drewp> they just didnt call the command rootdo
[06:01] <{Nathan}_> drewp: Yeah, kdirstat always just yells at my torrents though :-p
[06:01] <drewp> {Nathan}_: it "focuses" on them :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> subverso,   sets the initial modes.. nofb totally disables the framebuffer in the console. :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> subverso,  ive seen some X drivers/cards/conflict with the framebuffer enabled console.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> subverso,  also see if a tv is hooked up - the console defaulting to the tv.
[06:02] <formolQC> hi.  i've a (thosiba) laptop.  someone know how to cut speaker sound when i plug something into the headphone jack?
[06:02] <maxi_> hi guys can some one please help me ????
[06:02] <rainx> alright now its time to install world of warcraft lets hope this works
[06:02] <deephan> hi...ive setup a dual boot with windows vista and ubuntu..but im not able to access the windows partitions from ubuntu..what can i do?
[06:03] <goat|work> deephan: mount -t ntfs-3g -o force /dev/location /mnt/mountpoint
[06:03] <maxi_> i uninstalled grub by accident and im scared to reboot now how do i fix that ???
[06:03] <Dr_willis> how did you uninstall it?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> you coudl just reinstall it.
[06:03] <timfrost> drewp: no, it is sudo because because sudo can be used to run commands as you, me or root
[06:03] <maxi_> i used apt-get remove grub i think
[06:04] <loudnlownoma> maxi_: You can re-install it
[06:04] <loudnlownoma> maxi apt-get install grub
[06:04] <subverso> Dr_willis, look my grub line
[06:04] <deephan> should i have to set the mount point everytime?
[06:04] <subverso> Dr_willis, kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-rt root=UUID=0cb9677f-3962-460f-bf99-4df580e63348 ro splash vga=795
[06:04] <Dr_willis> 'think' ? you just accidently typed 'sudo apt-get remove grub' then accidently entere4d the root password? :)
[06:04] <loudnlownoma> Dr_willis: lol
[06:04] <Dr_willis> subverso,  i set that default line THEN run 'sudo update-grub' that changes all the kernel lines.
[06:04] <Ben_dew> I ran the SGD and now get the grub menu, but still I am getting error 17. Any other solutions? I installed linux on a Sata drive by itself and have windows on another separate drive.
[06:04] <goat|work> deephan: you can modify /etc/fstab
[06:05] <maxi_> lol yeah i did i was trying to follow a tutorial on the net but it back fired
[06:05] <goat|work> deephan: and that will allow it to boot everytime
[06:05] <hanasaki> where do i find the list of supported chips for gnome/X
[06:05] <Dr_willis> subverso,  mine look like --> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=91c4c158-95c4-45cd-af01-78039aaf0218 ro quiet nosplash nofb
[06:05] <deephan> okies..thanx a lot..will try..
[06:05] <j1solutions> hello all
[06:05] <subverso> oh sorry... now I understad
[06:06] <j1solutions> i have helped 3 people convert to ubuntu from windows this week :
[06:06] <j1solutions> woohooo
[06:06] <maxi_> so can i safely reboot, or do i need to change setting or anything in order for gryb to work again
[06:06] <subverso> Dr_willis, oh sorry... now I understad
[06:06] <trollboy> aww man
[06:06] <loudnlownoma> j1solutions: Grats!
[06:06] <trollboy> I almost read that backwords at first j1solutions
[06:06] <trollboy> good job man
[06:06] <imyousuf> Hi, can someone suggest what would be a good HTML Crawler for Ubuntu?
[06:06] <j1solutions> thanks thanks
[06:07] <j1solutions> 3 laptops
[06:07] <j1solutions> i run gutsy on 5 of my own machines
[06:07] <drewp> imyousuf: wget? what makes a crawler "good"?
[06:07] <SithRee> video still isnt working
[06:07] <deephan> and there is one other problem..initially i had installed suse linux on one of the partitions..but now ive formatted it..i dunno how to create a local volume..i tried using gparted..but it wouldnt create a local partition which i can use as the linux partition..
[06:07] <rainx> omg
[06:08] <imyousuf> drewp: how to use wget as web crawler (actually I want to download the pages linked in a HTML, e.g. JavaDoc)
[06:08] <jordan> Hi guys, i'm having a problem with my xubuntu box freezing when I go away and I'm not sure why.  The monitor is off but it will not respond or anything, forcing a hard reboot.  Where should I look for errors?
[06:08] <rainx> what should i use  to extract compressed part files example: part1.zip part2.zip
[06:08] <drewp> imyousuf: wget has a million options and supports some link-following
[06:08] <Dr_willis> rainx,  try 'unzip' yet?
[06:08] <truna> jordan, are you using wireless?
[06:08] <rainx> yes
[06:08] <jordan> truna no
[06:09] <rainx> it only unziped just that part
[06:09] <Dr_willis> rainx,  try unzip '*.zip'
[06:09] <truna> jordan, which kernel version do you have?
[06:09] <rainx> whats that mean?
[06:09] <jordan> truna 2.6.22-14
[06:09] <truna> jordan, i have to experienced  same problem, it hibernate and never wakes up
[06:10] <corvvs> Dr_willis: I don't think that works - won't it try to extract "part2.zip" from "part1.zip"?
[06:10] <jordan> truna not hybernate though..
[06:10] <Dr_willis> rainx,  it means unzip every .zip file in the current dir.
[06:10] <jordan> truna it is my network's router
[06:10] <truna> jordan i tried to disable bios apci apm or anything related to power management..same
[06:10] <rainx> that doesnt work
[06:10] <underwatercow> I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone can help me resolve. I have a sbackup backing up to an external hard drive, but the problem I'm having is that it appears that if it's missed it's backup time, anacron will start the backup before the drive has time to mount. This creates a folder in /media and my drive can no longer mount there. This causes backups to stop going to my external drive.
[06:10] <j1solutions> anyone know if rar can open a .tar file?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> corvvs,  unzip is WEIRD in how it does wildcards.. it can parse them internally. thats the quotes are for,
[06:11] <goat|work> j1solutions: yes
[06:11] <jordan> truna my computer did not update recently though and it just started tonight
[06:11] <corvvs> Dr_willis: oh, really? I didn't know that
[06:11] <Dr_willis> corvvs,   unzip *.zip wont normally work.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> I found that out by accident one day :)
[06:11] <truna> jordan thats another issue i have with ubuntu, i/o failure ie on the wifi freezed mine
[06:11] <goat|work> j1solutions: commercial winrar will open tar
[06:11] <goat|work> i don't know about others
[06:11] <jordan> hmm
[06:12] <Ben_dew> Since I am having so much trouble with grub, would it work if I physically unplugged all of my hd's except the one that I am putting linux on. Reinstall and then plug all of my drives back in, even if one of them has windows on it?
[06:12] <rainx>  is there a program like winrar for linux?
[06:12] <j1solutions> what about linux rar. i bought winrar and the license is good in linux to, but rar is only CLI in linux
[06:12] <corvvs> rainx: yes, it's called "rar" :P
[06:12] <goat|work> rar/unrar
[06:12] <truna> jordan to confirm it, just leave your machine overnight and find it in the morning frozen
[06:12] <corvvs> rainx: or if you want something graphical, file-roller
[06:12] <SithRee> Ben_dew: I've done that
[06:13] <jordan> truna the last syslog output was 'Dec 30 20:17:01 subuntu /USR/SBIN/CRON[9170]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)'
[06:13] <truna> without any activity off course
[06:13] <j1solutions> rainx: rar works just like command line rar in windows
[06:13] <j1solutions> mostly
[06:13] <drewp> but if you're playing with multiple filetypes, you might like package 'atools' with the command 'aunpack'
[06:13] <jordan> truna okay, ill disable everything on it
[06:13] <Dr_willis> winrar can work with wine. :)
[06:13] <Ben_dew> thanks sith
[06:13] <corvvs> Dr_willis: lol
[06:13] <j1solutions> thanks Dr
[06:13] <truna> jordan dont need to disable anything, just to confirm that it freezes..just leave it on without activity overnight
[06:13] <Dr_willis> ive used that quite a bit for some features it has.
[06:14] <rainx> lol im using file-roller its not working
[06:14] <corvvs> Dr_willis: seriously? a windows compression tool with more features than a linux one?
[06:14] <alogon> truna: i figured out my issue, i had to set my P+ATA and S+ATA controllers in bios to legacy mode, it didnt like enhanced mode
[06:14] <jordan> truna well if I don't disable / unplug it, my other computers will ping stuff through it
[06:15] <Dr_willis> corvvs,  i had a lot of seperate files i needed each in its own .zip winrar let me do it in a few clicks. :)  I could of proverly done a script to do the same.. but  bah.
[06:15] <varaonaid> hi, i installed a new icon pack via preferences>appearance>and then dragged and dropped the icon pack.  however, I can't find the icon folder in /usr/share/icons to change up some of the icons.  where would I find that?
[06:15] <corvvs> rainx: ahhhhh
[06:15] <corvvs> rainx: just found it in the man page
[06:15] <corvvs> rainx: BUGS
[06:15] <corvvs>        Multi-part  archives are not yet supported, except in conjunction with zip.  (All parts must be concatenated together in order, and then ‘‘zip -F’’ must be
[06:15] <corvvs>        performed on the concatenated archive in order to ‘‘fix’’ it.)  This will definitely be corrected in the next major release.
[06:15] <j1solutions> i spent all day today messing with rar CLI
[06:15] <corvvs> oops
[06:15] <corvvs> sorry
[06:15] <j1solutions> very powerful
[06:16] <Ben_dew> When I try to boot windows from grub it says my NTLDR is missing, whatever that is, its not good. How do I get it back?
[06:16] <corvvs> rainx: so cat file2.zip >> file1.zip
[06:16] <scguy318> Ben_dew: fixboot at the recovery console probably
[06:16] <j1solutions> Ben, that is the boot loader for winderz
[06:17] <rainx> corvvs im a noob
[06:17] <j1solutions> it resides at the root of your system partition
[06:17] <corvvs> rainx: gotcha - I'm walking you through it :)
[06:17] <Ben_dew> Well thats bad
[06:17] <j1solutions> yeah, thats bad
[06:17] <corvvs> rainx: how many files are we talking about?
[06:17] <bran___> guys, does anybody have problems with XV using fglrx?
[06:17] <Ben_dew> Could windows recover it, if I do a repair install?
[06:17] <j1solutions> i'm not smart enough to help fix that problem remotely
[06:18] <j1solutions> yeah ben, but then you won't be able to boot into linux
[06:18] <simmerz> does anyone have the latest ATI drivers running on a laptop with a 1680x1050 resolution?
[06:18] <j1solutions> forget windows
[06:18] <twicked1> hello all
[06:18] <rainx> six files starting like "filename_part0.zip, filename_part1.zip up to part 5
[06:18] <twicked1> Happy new years
[06:18] <Ben_dew> Well right now neither work
[06:18] <j1solutions> just get you data off that partition and wipe it
[06:18] <corvvs> rainx: ok... copy/paste this next line
[06:18] <Dr_willis> cat *.zip > Uberfile.zip
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <j1solutions> fix your linux so it boots
[06:18] <corvvs> Dr_willis: beat me to it :D
[06:19] <Dr_willis> corvvs,  assuming the names are in the right order with the wildcard/glob.
[06:19] <bran___> I'm having a little big problem with XV looking like crap
[06:19] <bran___> video resizing
[06:19] <bran___> very pixelated
[06:19] <Dr_willis> and no 03 vs 10 being out of order.
[06:19] <bran___> ATI restricted drivers
[06:19] <corvvs> Dr_willis: that's why I asked how many files :)
[06:20] <corvvs> rainx: yeah - cat *.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip
[06:20] <Dr_willis> corvvs,  unlike these 1000+ part rar's ive seen befor.
[06:20] <rainx> ok
[06:20] <rainx> i need to type cat *.zip > Uberfile.zip or cat *.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip
[06:21] <corvvs> rainx: if you call it Uberfile.zip instead, you'll need to also zip -F Uberfile.zip; unzip Uberfile.zip
[06:21] <rainx> so do i type exactly "cat *.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip"
[06:22] <corvvs> rainx: yep - minus the quotes, of course
[06:22] <rainx> in the terminal
[06:22] <lexor> im trying to get 3d desktop effects but in my attempts none work, i get an error message "Desktop effects could not be enabled!"
[06:22] <elda> Hello everyone o/
[06:22] <mar> beryl or compiz?
[06:22] <lexor> the proprieaty drivers dont work with xfx 7900gs
[06:23] <lexor> compiz
[06:23] <lexor> but the problem is the driver
[06:23] <corvvs> rainx: the first part (up to the semicolon) takes the contents of all the zip files in the current directory and copies them into one big file called total.zip
[06:23] <lexor> nv works of course but the nvidia driver doesnt
[06:23] <lexor> and nv doesnt support desktop effects
[06:23] <Ben_dew> Anyone have any experience with running vmware to virtualize windows in Ubuntu? Does it work?
[06:23] <corvvs> rainx: the second part (to the second semicolon) "fixes" the zip file header so that it's one zip file instead of a multipart
[06:24] <corvvs> rainx: and the last bit unzips the file
[06:24] <lexor> when i use proprieaty on reboot it forgets the res and makes it low graphics
[06:24] <rainx> alright
[06:24] <lexor> when i reset to what it should be and try again it doesnt work
[06:24] <lexor> on restart it forgets again
[06:24] <rainx> so all i need to do is type the same thing for the other set of part files i need to unzip
[06:24] <loudnlownoma> Ben_dew: I have heard of a number of people doing this.  I use VirtualBox myself to do the same, and it works like a charm!
[06:24] <Elda> Is "Envy" worth using to update my drivers?
[06:24] <corvvs> rainx: oh... are there different sets in the same directory?
[06:25] <corvvs> rainx: if so... we'll alter that a bit
[06:25] <lexor> i tried but that didnt work
[06:25] <lexor> it forgets res as well
[06:25] <nickrud> !envy | Elda
[06:25] <ubotu> Elda: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:25] <Elda> ah
[06:26] <rainx> no
[06:26] <lexor> but the binary drivers forget the res as well.....
[06:26] <lexor> only nv doesnt
[06:26] <rainx> there is not different sets in the same directory
[06:26] <corvvs> rainx: cat filename_part*.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip
[06:26] <lexor> but u can't do desktop effects with nv
[06:26] <corvvs> rainx: oh, ok - either way than
[06:26] <steve5> hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:26] <steve5> alguien que hable español!!!!
[06:26] <Elda> Yo hablo espanol... que necesitas?
[06:26] <subverso> steve5, dime
[06:26] <steve5> hola elda
[06:26] <corvvs> steve5: hablo poco
[06:27] <unravel> !es | steve5
[06:27] <ubotu> steve5: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:27] <rainx> six min til its done copying off the dvd to try this
[06:27] <nickrud> lexor, have you looked at the binarydriver page yet? I see that a lot about nvidia cards, I'm sure there's a fix there
[06:27] <nickrud> !binarydriver | lexor
[06:27] <steve5> como estas elda!!!!!
[06:27] <ubotu> lexor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <lexor> u think so?
[06:27] <lexor> tried binary howto didnt work lol
[06:27] <lexor> ok
[06:27] <subverso> Dr_willis, didnt work dr
[06:27] <corvvs> rainx: cool
[06:27] <lexor> @nickrud i can try
[06:27] <Dr_willis> what part dident.. :)
[06:28] <subverso> no console...
[06:28] <Dr_willis> subverso,  you could try booting straight to the console also.  see if X is messing things up0
[06:28] <steve5> ALGUIEN QUE HABLE ESPAÑOL!!!!!!
[06:28] <nickrud> lexor, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-35311afc21ce57e599c941cd303233d2f0b3be23 seems the right place to start
[06:28] <Elda> Soy muy cansada... Termine ahora reparticionando el HD para intalar Vista y Linux/ (Translated so as not to be rude)  I am tired.... I finished just now repartitioning my hard drive to install Vista and Linux
[06:28] <steve5> ALGUNA DAMA CON QUIEN HABLAAARRR!!!!
[06:29] <lexor> ok
[06:29] <nickrud> !es | steve5
[06:29] <ubotu> steve5: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:29] <Elda> He's not looking for help... rather someone to talk to >.>
[06:29] <hotdiggety> hey there
[06:29] <lexor> i'll see
[06:29] <nickrud> gonna have better luck there than here :)
[06:29] <Elda> Need to reboot again
[06:29] <loudnlownoma> Elda: Fun!  I'm just finally settling into a mostly configured Vista/Ubuntu box myself.  :)
[06:29] <hotdiggety> pretty new to Linux again.....last time I used it was installation of SUSE 4.2 in 2000
[06:30] <Elda> time to get my drivers working :D
[06:30] <Elda> hopefully Ill be back soon xD
[06:30] <nickrud> hotdiggety, you'll find things very different now
[06:30] <hotdiggety> I have been reading up on Ubuntu and I mate of mine now living in New Jersey suggested I look into installing Ubuntu
[06:31] <hotdiggety> thanx nickrud
[06:31] <loudnlownoma> hotdiggety: Aye.  I was amazed at some of the upgrades just going from 7.04 to 7.10 of Ubuntu, let alone years worth of updates and upgrades...lol
[06:32] <bruenig> loudnlownoma, those upgrades that had been available for 2 months already? yeah those were awesome
[06:32] <corvvs> hotdiggety: trying to remember... 2000 was after libc6 came out, right? :P
[06:32] <budluva> hello all
[06:32] <hotdiggety> just for starters, I formatted my extra drive yesterday and now want to instll Ubuntu on that drive....with the other drive having XP SP2 as the other OS....please do not shoot me down for this, family shares the main desktop at home
[06:32] <Creed> Does anyone have a .deb for psybnc or a precompiled tar? I've checked the repos and its not there, the source won't compile right either.
[06:33] <loudnlownoma> bruenig: I mostly just meant things that worked either better or at all straight out of the box...  Just kinda came back around to Linux myself towards the switch from Feisty to Gutsy
[06:33] <Groovestix> hey! any Xubuntu users here? can somebody help me set up network in Xubuntu ?
[06:33] <bruenig> Groovestix, what is the problem
[06:34] <Groovestix> well Xubuntu doesn't have "places" like Ubuntu does
[06:34] <corvvs> hotdiggety: my first install of linux was slackware 3.1 - right before the glibc/libc5 split... I spent like a week compiling and installing a new libc :D
[06:34] <Groovestix> I wanna access my windows network
[06:34] <rainx> is there a way to open terminal in a directory
[06:34] <bruenig> Groovestix, samba?
[06:35] <loudnlownoma> hotdiggety: Not at all.  Dual-booting is a great way to get your feet wet with the distro and get a good feel for it before deciding on taking the plunge all the way.  I still have Vista on my Desktop right now, and have contemplated throwing XP back on here - Strictly for gaming purposes, and because no one can seem to get my TV Tuner card working in Linux yet...
[06:35] <Creed> Does anyone have a .deb for psybnc or a precompiled tar? I've checked the repos and its not there, the source won't compile right either.
[06:35] <bruenig> rainx, check the man page of your terminal emulator, for Terminal, it is: Terminal --default-working-directory=DIRNAME
[06:35] <bruenig> !pm | Groovestix
[06:35] <ubotu> Groovestix: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:35] <godchaser> I can't load ubuntu on my machine which is on a doual boot with winXP
[06:35] <corvvs> rainx: there's a nautilus script called "open in terminal" which is probably what you're looking for
[06:35] <elda> Yeay linux is apparantly in working order \o/
[06:35] <Groovestix> :)
[06:36] <loudnlownoma> elda: Grats!
[06:36] <elda> Even glxgears gives me 7.3k fps stable lol
[06:36] <Groovestix> alright, so how shall I establish Samba bruenig ?
[06:36] <rainx> well what im looking for is going to the fold where all the zip files are and opening up terminal to be on that directory instead of cd...ing to that directory
[06:36] <bruenig> !samba | Groovestix
[06:36] <ubotu> Groovestix: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[06:36] <corvvs> rainx: yeah - nautilus open in directory... I'm trying to remember where to get it
[06:36] <hotdiggety> corvvs: I slightly remember the tasks required for the installation and configuring of SUSE 4.2, as I have moved away from the technical field and have been for a while now.....but now it is time ot get bacnk into it, as we now have 3 laptops, one desktop and one soon to be commisioned server within our home
[06:37] <corvvs> hotdiggety: you'll find the ubuntu install much quicker, I think
[06:38] <Groovestix> looking good (it works for Xubuntu right?) but if I have troubles I'll let you know bruenig
[06:38] <rainx> cat wow-2.0.0-enUS-Installer_part*.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip did not work
[06:38] <hotdiggety> corvvs: the desktop has two drives, one of them is still going to be XP Pro SP2, but the other laptop has Vista and I have been having trouble setting up the network for a centralised printer using WiFi ADSL router access
[06:38] <corvvs> hotdiggety: also my one brush with SuSE on a coworker's machine left a bad taste in my mouth (due to YaST, mainly) - you'll find that editing text files to configure on Ubuntu works the way you'd expect even if you don't use their graphical config stuff :P
[06:39] <lexor> still not working
[06:39] <elda> <3 gedit
[06:39] <hotdiggety> corvvs: kewl
[06:39] <nickrud> hotdiggety, I remember those suse installs, picking software, etc. None of that with ubuntu. Shrink the ntfs partition in vista, stick in the ubuntu disk and answer a couple of questions, and then kick back.
[06:39] <lexor> tried that and it messed
[06:39] <joe_> hey im having a problem with my wireless, ive sorted out the wireless drivers (i think) and my card shows up with iwconfig eth1; but when trying to sett the essid to connect to i get this:
[06:39] <truna> corvvs, i take exception to that, yast is much better
[06:39] <joe_> joe@joes-laptop:~$ iwconfig eth1 essid HomeNetwork
[06:39] <joe_> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[06:39] <joe_>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not permitted.
[06:39] <joe_> im using 7.10
[06:39] <elda> your making my brain hurt ;_;
[06:39] <budluva> can someone help me here, im trying to get my external hdd working, but when i plug it in, its being loaded as usbhid keyboard/mouse not as a scsi disk, how do i fix this?
[06:39] <rainx> it made a text file called total.zip and also said it fail on my terminal
[06:39]  * nickrud sidles off again
[06:39] <budluva> bah
[06:39] <corvvs> truna: maybe it is now, but back in 2000 it wouldn't *allow* you to edit anything in /etc
[06:39] <elda> oh joe
[06:39] <budluva> :P
[06:40] <hotdiggety> nickrud: I would rather prefer not to touch my wife's Vista laptop.....and just have the central dekstop act as a central server
[06:40] <elda> do SUDO in front of that
[06:40] <corvvs> truna: it would revert your changes
[06:40]  * budluva looks in nickrud's direction
[06:40] <elda> joe do sudo iwconfig
[06:40] <nickrud> hotdiggety, that would be good as well. If you're turning the whole machine over to ubuntu?
[06:40] <truna> corvvs, off course it had, im still on 9.3 and yast is way better imho
[06:40] <budluva> man i've been googlin' ma arse off on this one
[06:40] <joe_> ok two seconds =]
[06:41] <corvvs> rainx: ok, you've got total.zip -- what said fail?
[06:41] <elda> I've another question.... where do I store my wall paper? >.<
[06:41] <tele> anyone know why my external harddrive wont appear on my desktop when i plug it in?
[06:41] <rainx> everything failed
[06:41] <hotdiggety> nickrud: I have two HDD's on the desktop and one drive I would stil like to keep as XP Pro SP2, i.e dual boot, as my daughter still uses it for her school projects, hence non-IT experience on her part for the moment
[06:41] <budluva> tele, im having the same problem
[06:42] <rainx> i even tried to open total.zip it said something bout being a text file and will not open
[06:42] <tele> hmm
[06:42] <tele> what are you running?
[06:42] <emg08> hello room
[06:42] <truna> tele is it supposed to be auto mounted? look into udev rules
[06:42] <budluva> tele, lsusb what does that output for you
[06:42] <corvvs> rainx: not everything... it did create the file, right?
[06:42] <tele> im using mythbuntu
[06:42] <Groovestix> hey people! how can I revert this type of a command: sudo chown <username>:fuse /media/network  ?
[06:42] <corvvs> rainx: try running zip -F total.zip
[06:42] <nickrud> hotdiggety, that's really easy then, just point ubuntu at the second disk, tell it to use the whole thing and it'll do the rest
[06:42] <rainx> well now i typed in cat *.zip > total.zip; zip -F total.zip; unzip total.zip
[06:42] <corvvs> rainx: see what it says
[06:42] <rainx> and now the terminal is just sitting there
[06:42] <budluva> tele, try lsusb
[06:42] <bruenig> Groovestix, you don't revert it per se, you chown it back to the previous owner
[06:42] <corvvs> rainx: ok - they're large files right?
[06:42] <budluva> tele, is it recognized?
[06:42] <tele> it shows my mouse and a few others
[06:42] <corvvs> rainx: it takes a minute to copy
[06:43] <drambuie> rainx, i don't know, but i think when you go to 'cat' to combine the zip files, it think it needs to look like 'cat *.zip >> total.zip' as to append to one file.
[06:43] <tele> truna how do i check udev rules?
[06:43] <rainx> ok
[06:43] <emg08> anyone know how to enable sound after standby resume
[06:43] <tele> budluva, no i dont see it
[06:43] <budluva> tele, unplug it, then tail -f /var/log/messages and plug it back in
[06:43] <corvvs> drambuie: nah, I'm pretty sure this is right
[06:43] <rainx> corvvs pm me
[06:43] <tele> unless its one of these
[06:43] <tele> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 067b:3507 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL3507 ATAPI6 Bridge
[06:43] <tele> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:43] <tele> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8c:0201 C-Media Electronics, Inc.
[06:43] <truna> tele start with man udev, am not that familiar with it yet either
[06:43] <budluva> tele, could be one of those
[06:44] <corvvs> rainx: can't - I haven't registered with the server yet
[06:44] <hotdiggety> nickrud: kewl....another question though, I have performed a backup of the old drive I would like to use as  Linux drive, would there be any problem in restoring some of the data from the backup onto the newly configured Linux drive until such time that I have managed to format the main drive and re-installed XP and MS Office Pro 2007
[06:44] <budluva> tele, paste your /var/log/messages output to pastebin
[06:44] <rainx> oh well neither have i
[06:44] <Groovestix> bruenig: I chowned an folder with my own username, but now it won't let me delete it
[06:44] <Creed> Does anyone have a .deb for psybnc or a precompiled tar? I've checked the repos and its not there, the source won't compile right either.
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> what does "bye offset" mean?
[06:44] <rainx> but im going to send you a text file of what the terminal said if thats fine with you
[06:44] <truna> Groovestix, if you are still on that dir, cd out of it to delete it
[06:44] <corvvs> rainx: sure - there's a pastebin thing they use here
[06:44] <LimCore> how to convert flash video into an .mpeg ?
[06:45] <tele> budluva, its still finding new things
[06:45] <tele> so it will be a second
[06:45] <corvvs> rainx: http://ubuntu.pastebin.org/
[06:45] <nickrud> hotdiggety, how did you do the backup? And what kinds of files?  Openoffice will open office 2003 stuff, formatting might be off. Media, as long as it's not drm protected will play fine.
[06:45] <corvvs> rainx: put the text in there and send me the link it gives you
[06:45] <tele> budluva, should it still be going?
[06:46] <budluva> lol i dunno
[06:46] <tele> hehe
[06:46] <tele> so im using mythbuntu
[06:46] <hotdiggety> nickrud: I used the Windows backup and restore application from the maintenance window
[06:46] <tele> i am wondering if i should downloading the destop part too
[06:46] <rainx> oh more stuff popped up on the terminal
[06:47] <drambuie> Groovestix, try chown with -hR
[06:47] <nickrud> hotdiggety, I'm not sure how that's saved, I'm pretty much windows free except for work and I have a backup regimen of my own there.
[06:47] <tele> budluva, http://www.pastebin.org/13580
[06:47] <rainx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.org/13579 there you go
[06:47] <Groovestix> drambuie: I rebooted, so keep that though
[06:48] <hotdiggety> nickrud: ok, I guess I will just have to play around with it and see what I can do.....thanx for the all the help so far.....I am sure that I wll be spending quite some time here in the near future
[06:48] <ruudy> i installed gutsy
[06:48] <corvvs> rainx: ahhh
[06:48] <budluva> tele, i cant help you, you've gotten farther with your ext hdd than i have :P mine's being detect as keyboard/mouse
[06:48] <corvvs> rainx: files in Linux are case-sensitive
[06:48] <nickrud> hotdiggety, enjoy
[06:48] <corvvs> rainx: so where the filename has a capital W, and you put a lowercase w, it couldn't find it
[06:48] <budluva> tele yours is being detected as storage device
[06:49] <rainx> lmao
[06:49] <rainx> wow
[06:49] <ruudy> but i am unable to play mp3 or other videos that are on my vista partition
[06:49] <rainx> i forgot bout that
[06:49] <budluva> tele /dev/sdb is your hard drive, you just have to mount it
[06:49] <budluva> tele, sudo fdisk -l, what does that output? and thats an L
[06:49] <ruudy> i try install restricted packages but it wont
[06:50] <ruudy> i dont understand
[06:50] <manyuele_> 我也装上了IRC
[06:51] <vhs> help
[06:51] <tele> fdisk... that wont wipe any info will it?
[06:51] <clinton> tele: yes, oh yes
[06:51] <doorknob60> no way different than dos command
[06:51] <rainx> alright im trying again
[06:51] <manyuele_> 大家能看到中文吗？
[06:51] <nickrud> !cn | manyuele_
[06:51] <ubotu> manyuele_: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:52] <clinton> tele: if you alter your existing partitions with fidsk you will have extreme difficulty obtaining the data that was on those partitions
[06:52] <FantasticFoo> hey there... i recently upgraded from feisty to gutsy. but during the upgrade process, a little window popped up, telling me about some packages that should be removed. there was a button that said "ok" to remove the packages, and a button "cancel" to keep them. i sorta absent-mindedly clicked "ok", thinking that it would be for the best, but it removed a bunch of important packages, like important libraries, and now my installation i
[06:52] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how to get these packages back?
[06:52] <tele> ok
[06:52] <vhs> i need help to configure my Wireless WMP54G Ver. 4.1 , Linksys in Ubuntu 7.10
[06:52] <vhs>  01:07.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[06:52] <rainx> i suppose its working
[06:53] <budluva> tele does sudo fdisk -l show /dev/sdb1?
[06:53] <elda> Im curious.... where do I put my wall papers?
[06:53] <rainx> a total.zip file showed up and im still waiting for a response
[06:53] <tele> budluva, http://www.pastebin.org/13583
[06:53] <clinton> FantasticFoo: aptitude install $(dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | awk '{print $2}')
[06:53] <elda> I have a ton from my windows partition that I stuck on a flash drive
[06:53] <budluva> tele so your booting ubuntu off of that ext hdd?
[06:53] <FantasticFoo> clinton: this will get any missing packages back?
[06:53] <elda> Err before I did the formatting
[06:53] <tele> no i am not
[06:53] <rainx> well it is working because the total.zip file is getting larger and larger
[06:54] <nickrud> elda, I created a dir called ~/.wallpapers and keep them there. Then drag & drop them onto the background dialog to register them
[06:54] <tele> i have an internal that i boot from and external w/ my music
[06:54] <clinton> FantasticFoo: that command will re-install all removed packages that were previously installed
[06:54] <loudnlownoma> elda: I don't think there is really a specific place they have to be
[06:54] <FantasticFoo> clinton: oh thankyou so much!!!
[06:54] <clinton> FantasticFoo: I stress, *ALL* removed packages
[06:54] <jangari> elda, right click the screen and it'll have an option to change background image, that'll open a dialogue where you can add more,
[06:54] <FantasticFoo> clinton: oh well, i guess there weren't any packages that i didn't want
[06:54] <jangari> though knowing precisely which directory it searches would be handy for bulk importing
[06:54] <budluva> tele oh, ya im reading sda, so ya you need to mount sdb and you should be good, but it should auto mount for you, you'll need to add a line in /etc/fstab to mount on boot
[06:55] <clinton> FantasticFoo: ok, good luck then
[06:55] <tele> budluva, ok
[06:55] <tele> do you know what to add or is there a good manual to figure it out
[06:55] <corvvs> rainx: cool
[06:55] <nickrud> elda, the problem is if you move your pictures the registration will be broken. That's why I settled on that dir
[06:55] <budluva> tele google is your friend
[06:56] <rainx> well now its extracting
[06:56] <nickrud> except google seems to hate budluva tonight
[06:56] <budluva> i googled ubuntu mount ext hdd and your first choice is probably good
[06:56] <budluva> nickrud, hehe
[06:56] <jangari> question on fstab, how do you add a line for automatically connecting to a server share?
[06:56] <budluva> nickrud, do you know off the top of your head how i could disable usbhid?
[06:56] <tele> budluva, k thanks
[06:56] <corvvs> rainx: awesome
[06:56] <rainx> oh darn
[06:56] <rainx> it didnt work
[06:57] <corvvs> rainx: oh?
[06:57] <rainx> ok off to wine with winrar
[06:57] <corvvs> heh
[06:57] <nickrud> budluva, try sudo modprobe -r usbhid
[06:57] <DrDerek> this made me go HA! -- http://www.wimp.com/superman/
[06:57] <vhs> i need help to configure my Wireless WMP54G Ver. 4.1 , Linksys in Ubuntu 7.10  Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[06:57] <imyousuf> Has anyone being running VPSs using Ubuntu Server?
[06:57] <FantasticFoo> ok lemme reboot into linux here. so long
[06:58] <jlulian38> I think I just fried my hard drive
[06:58] <rainx> ok wanna direct me on how to install wine?
[06:58] <doorknob60> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:58] <DrDerek> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:58] <rainx> oh
[06:58] <rainx> wow
[06:58] <jlulian38> during boot it gives an error talking about EXT3-fs trying to read outside the boundary of the device
[06:58] <jangari> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:58] <pvl1> where can i get the source for Ubuntu?
[06:59] <jlulian38> then it kernel panics
[06:59] <corvvs> pvl1: er, the whole thing?
[06:59] <DrDerek> pvl1 -- I think ubuntu.com has it
[06:59] <cdm10> pvl1: afaik, it's not one single "source"
[06:59] <budluva> nickrud, after disabling usbhid and plugging hdd back in, its still picking it up as usbhid
[06:59] <jlulian38> I've already tried fsck
[06:59] <cdm10> pvl1: it's made up of packages, and you can get the source of any individual package by installing dpkg-dev and running apt-get source packagename
[06:59] <jlulian38> didn't fixed it
[06:59] <jlulian38> fix*
[06:59] <nickrud> budluva, it probably forced the module to reload.
[07:00] <budluva> hmm
[07:00] <jangari> jlulian38, can you boot at all?
[07:00] <pvl1> corvvs, , DrDerek, cdm10, well my main thing is, i wanna strip it as much as possible. so i guess rather, is there a guide explaining the file structure of Ubuntu?
[07:00] <loudnlownoma> Anyone familiar with changing the priority of the network connections?  My specific problem is trying to make sure that my dial-up(of sorts) connection stays the primary when the Ethernet cable is connected to my router, for local network access...
[07:00] <pvl1> like, theres just some stuff here that i definetly dont need
[07:00] <imyousuf> Has anyone being running Virtual Private Servers (VPS) using Ubuntu Server?
[07:00] <cdm10> pvl1: I think there's an ubuntu-minimal CD that only installs the packages you want.
[07:00] <DrDerek> pvl1 - I think there's an Ubuntu Minimum project out there
[07:00] <jlulian38> yes jangari
[07:00] <corvvs> pvl1: you mean the way directories are set up under UNIX?
[07:00] <jlulian38> not like fried the whole drive
[07:00] <jlulian38> it still starts up
[07:00] <jlulian38> GRUB and all
[07:00] <pvl1> corvvs, yes
[07:00] <cdm10> pvl1: there are also a lot of other distros that might suit you better.
[07:00] <jlulian38> but after that is falls on its face and crashes
[07:01] <corvvs> pvl1: yeah, I think the POSIX guidebook has one - it should be online somewhere
[07:01] <DrDerek> cmd10 lol
[07:01] <elda> Night all.... got my desktop directory done and Im pooped >.<
[07:01] <jangari> hmm
[07:01] <nickrud> budluva, you can create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ , say my-blacklist , and put the line blacklist usbhid in it and reboot. That way the module cannot be loaded. Probably wont allow your disk to be recognized, but ...
[07:01] <elda> Thanks everyone for your help :)
[07:01] <pvl1> cdm10, DrDerek , uhm where is this project?
[07:01] <pvl1> corvvs, ill look into that
[07:01] <cdm10> pvl1: not sure, I've just heard about it
[07:01] <nickrud> budluva, look at one of the other blacklist files there for an example
[07:01] <pvl1> and in addition, im very happy with ubuntu, definetly dont wanna leave it, just wanna make mines take up less space
[07:01] <jangari> you might have to edit the grub and see what partition/disk is being run for your root mountpoint
[07:02] <clinton> pvl1: try xubuntu then, smaller and leaner
[07:02] <DrDerek> pvl1 -- I'll have to refind it.. but google couldn't help
[07:02] <jescis> any one upgrade to 7.10 from 6.06?
[07:02] <pvl1> cdm10, corvvs DrDerek well thanks! ima look into these then.
[07:02] <DrDerek> yeah, Xubuntu is an already-to-go minimum
[07:02] <imyousuf> Has anyone being running Virtual Private Servers (VPS) using Ubuntu Server?
[07:02] <jlulian38> Oddly enough
[07:02] <DrDerek> I thikn i found it
[07:02] <jlulian38> I can still mount the drive
[07:03] <DrDerek> pvl1- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:03] <jlulian38> but it's messed up in a hundred ways
[07:03] <jlulian38> directories show up as files
[07:03] <DrDerek> install time reduces the size of the install CD (roughly 5-20MB depending on architecture)
[07:03] <jlulian38> files are folders
[07:03] <pvl1> DrDerek, thanks!
[07:03] <DrDerek> that's pretty minimal
[07:03] <zoidfarb> So, really random question: I like to use my laptop while lying down in bed. Is there any way to rotate the contents of certain windows (or even the whole screen) 90 degrees so it's easier to read?
[07:04] <DrDerek> pvl1 - aye, no problem
[07:04] <jlulian38> You laptop might support that
[07:04] <jlulian38> also look in "Screen Resolution"
[07:04] <zoidfarb> My laptop doesn't have it built in\
[07:04] <jlulian38> under System->Prefrences
[07:04] <zoidfarb> it's old and crummy
[07:04] <DrDerek> It's been kind of a challenge to get Ubuntu to work properly on laptops 3 or more years older for myself
[07:05] <imyousuf> Has anyone deployed/used Virtual Private Servers (VPS) using Ubuntu Server?
[07:05] <zoidfarb> \
[07:05] <DrDerek> imyousuf -- .. you don't have to keep reposting the same question.
[07:05] <DrDerek> imyousuf -- you should check out the ubuntu forums
[07:05] <zoidfarb> what about screen resolutions?
[07:05] <joe_> hey im still having problems with my wireless i got my bcm 4318 card working and i can do a sudo iwlist eth1 scan; and it will 'see' my router but i cant connct to it, ive taken the WEP key off of the router and it still wont connect any suggestions?
[07:05] <zoidfarb> I don't see anything helpful there?
[07:06] <DrDerek> joe_ -- broadcom?
[07:06] <rainx> dude you know what i realized
[07:06] <rainx> the files ain part files
[07:06] <rainx> ....
[07:06] <joe_> DR: yup
[07:06] <imyousuf> DrDerek: previously I have seen sometime it takes several reposts before actually some knowing the answer notices it :), sorry for the inconvenience.
[07:06] <DrDerek> have you tried the ndiswrapper ?
[07:06] <pvl1> After installing xbindkeys, ctrl+f tries to load term (i think, i removed it, tas some terminal) and i cant search in firefox, is there a solution?
[07:06] <pvl1> ps i change the config file for xbindkeys
[07:07] <budluva> nickrud, k, Dec 31 00:05:23 donald-laptop kernel: [   91.376000] hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [Cypress AT2LP RC42] on usb-0000:00:13.2-4
[07:07] <DrDerek> joe_ -- I somehow got my broadcom to work -- I don't know how I got it to work, I don't care how.. it just does, hah.. I spent like 4 months trying to configure it, but I'll see if i can find the documents I used
[07:07] <joe_> i have on debian etch but it didnt work and ive looked around and i decided to go with fwcutter, it worked on etch and im using 7.10 now
[07:07] <budluva> thats what i get now, and hiddev96 isnt a module as i tried to remove it already, so any other ideas?
[07:07] <budluva> :P
[07:07] <nickrud> budluva, lol, well, there was a reason I wanted to walk away from that question :)
[07:07] <DrDerek> joe_ -- give this a look through, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[07:07] <budluva> hahaha, if you cant tell im trying to suck you in
[07:07] <loudnlownoma>  Anyone familiar with changing the priority of the network connections?  My specific problem is trying to make sure that my dial-up(of sorts) connection stays the primary when the Ethernet cable is connected to my router, for local network access...
[07:07] <jlulian38_> lol
[07:07] <joe_> the card works i just dont seem to be able to connect it could be a setting im not doing right
[07:07] <jlulian38_> that crashed my laptop
[07:07] <jlulian38_> wtf
[07:08] <DrDerek> what crashed your comp?
[07:08] <jlulian38_> changing the rotation in "Screen Resolution"
[07:08] <DrDerek> for COmpiz?
[07:09] <jlulian38> no
[07:09] <zoidfarb> I don't see that. I'm running Xubuntu
[07:09] <jlulian38> Oh :/
[07:09] <jlulian38> Anyway
[07:09] <joe_> i dont think i need ndiswrapper, ive got the car working and stuff it shows up in iwconfig and iwlist scan and it can find my network but not connect.
[07:09] <DrDerek> have you tried running the dpkg-reconfigure thingy?
[07:09] <jlulian38> why does gparted always hang
[07:09] <jlulian38> it says like "Scanning All Devices"
[07:09] <jlulian38> for half an hour
[07:10] <DrDerek> dpkg-reconfigure /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think is the command, I'll look it up
[07:10] <veggieoil> hello all
[07:10] <pvl1> thanks everyone!
[07:10] <DrDerek> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:10] <jlulian38> is that directed at me?
[07:11] <DrDerek> I think so
[07:11] <DrDerek> if you're trying to get your screen resolutions to work
[07:11] <jlulian38> I really need help with my hard drive more
[07:11] <DrDerek> oh
[07:11] <jlulian38> It's not that DrDerek
[07:11] <jlulian38> I get a Kernel Panic during the boot
[07:11] <nickrud> budluva, http://www.everythingusb.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8760
[07:11] <jlulian38> and when you mount the drive
[07:11] <veggieoil> how do i schedule firefox to run at a given time?
[07:11] <DrDerek> crontab -e
[07:11] <jescis> I'm sorry, how rude, I just come into a place and ask questions without saying hello :P
[07:12] <jlulian38> some directories are showing up as files
[07:12] <DrDerek> veggieoil - downloadddddddd , leme find it
[07:12] <cdm10> jescis: that's the preferred way :)
[07:12] <lonejack> hi, what config file is written the instruction for java runtime load? thank you
[07:12] <DrDerek> veggieoil - http://gnome-schedule.sourceforge.net/
[07:12] <nickrud> budluva, still here?
[07:12] <veggieoil> hi DrDerek, that doesnt seem to work for me, nor does the at command
[07:13] <DrDerek> veggieoil - download that program I linked
[07:13] <nickrud> ah, he sucks me in, I find out what's wrong, and he's gone :)
[07:13] <eazyass> damn
[07:13] <cdm10> DrDerek: it's in the repos
[07:13] <DrDerek> then you can set a time and date and whatever, then for the command just have it as firefox
[07:13] <cdm10> veggieoil: it's in the repos... sudo aptitude install gnome-schedule, no downloading required
[07:13] <DrDerek> I didn't know what the program name was.
[07:13] <veggieoil> i've just been trying that - doesn't work for some reason
[07:14] <DrDerek> try sudo apt-get update
[07:14] <cdm10> veggieoil: does your package manager work at all?
[07:14] <budluva> nickrud, im reading that but its all windows related, nothing of use
[07:14] <nickrud> budluva, key issue, I've seen it elsewhere. Enclosure issues. Defective hardware
[07:14] <veggieoil> yeah, using gutsy with many extra softwares - eveything till now works great
[07:15] <cdm10> veggieoil: try the sudo apt-get update first
[07:16] <Reilithion> This computer is connected wirelessly to the Internet.  If I have a crossover cable, can I use it to share its Internet connection with another machine?
[07:16] <nickrud> budluva, I googled Cypress AT2LP RC42 and got a lot of posts about it.
[07:16] <veggieoil> ok - but did update ysterday.  gnome-schedule installed ok and gui runs nice - job even deletes after it has "run"
[07:17] <veggieoil> i think maybe cron only execute scripts??
[07:17] <jlulian38> gnome-schedule is an interface for cron
[07:17] <jlulian38> and cron can run any command basically
[07:18] <veggieoil> other people having issues too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at/+bug/163810
[07:18] <DrDerek> veggieoil - the only command you need is the program name -- so you want firefox to work you just type ./firefox for the command part
[07:19] <veggieoil> ok - i didnt put in the ./
[07:19] <veggieoil> will try it now
[07:20] <DrDerek> or, you can go to google, type in "Cron Job Generator" put in your parameters for like times and whatnot, and the script -- then you can go to terminal and type crontab -e , or sudo crontab -e if you need, then enter the command from the cron job generator in the thingy.
[07:20] <nickrud> budluva, http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1172683&page=1 , the post by grieg45 seems to be the most definitive answer I've seen
[07:20] <loudnlownoma>  Anyone familiar with changing the priority of the network connections?  My specific problem is trying to make sure that my dial-up(of sorts) connection stays the primary when the Ethernet cable is connected to my router, for local network access...
[07:20] <jescis> I can't bootup ubuntu
[07:21] <vcreativ1> i need help to configure my
[07:21] <budluva> nickrud, crappy chip
[07:21] <nickrud> budluva, yup.
[07:21] <budluva> k, ill just buy a new enclosure
[07:21] <vcreativ1> Wireless WMP54G Ver. 4.1 , Linksys
[07:21] <syarif> hello
[07:21] <jescis> and it worked, till i upgraded to 7.10
[07:21] <vcreativ1> Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[07:21] <nickrud> budluva, you owe me one :)
[07:22] <syarif> can i know what channel apropriate for movie hobiies chatter like me?
[07:22] <martzipAN^> hey. how do i connect to a remote ssh server with ubuntu? i do ssh domain.com ... but i want to enter the password and user in is so the login will be faster
[07:22] <budluva> nickrud, you bet :P
[07:22] <syarif> hello
[07:22] <syarif> anyone can help me?
[07:23] <astro76> syarif, hmm not sure what movie hobbies is, but as long as it has nothing to do with copyright infringement, try #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:23] <veggieoil> drderek - since i am scheduling program to run only once, could it be that it is using at and not cron?
[07:24] <vcreativ1> HELPPPP:  i need help to configure my Wireless WMP54G Ver. 4.1 , Linksys (Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI)
[07:24] <syarif> i mean  someone who likes to watch movie,...some cinema,...
[07:25] <DrDerek> if you only need it to run once, tell it to run once, veggieoil
[07:25] <FantasticFoo> damn. :( turns out those packages weren't what was causing my problem... maybe someone here can help: after i upgraded to gutsy from feisty, when the gdm loads up i get an error saying the "human" theme could not be loaded, because "human_bar.svg" could not be loaded
[07:25] <DrDerek> the schedualer has like a "run one time only" option
[07:25] <FantasticFoo> anyone know why this might be?
[07:25] <DrDerek> veggieoil -- are you talking about like, once a day? once a month? once every year? or just once, period.
[07:25] <veggieoil> yes, i think that optiom calls either at or cron depending on selection.  i always use "only once"
[07:26] <veggieoil> non regular occasions - but when unattended
[07:27] <veggieoil> currently trying once only to get it working
[07:27] <newbieee> how do i add a my most usable programs to panel in xfce????
[07:27] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, are you sure about the exact filename, I can't locate it in any of the packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:28] <FantasticFoo> predaeus: oh wait. sorry, it was "bottom_bar.svg"
[07:28] <DrDerek> veggieoil -- just follow a cronjob tutorial, it's a lot easier than the graphical way
[07:28] <coz_> morning all
[07:29] <budluva> nickrud, well thanks for all that, glad i wasted so many hours with this bloody thing, the funny thing is it that it hasn't worked since i bought it, i had the same problem 8 months ago when i bought it and it sat in the corner forever, just spend the last 2 days fookin with it, glad you made me come to realization that its borked :P
[07:29] <budluva> haha
[07:29] <DrDerek> wurd
[07:29] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=bottom_bar&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[07:29] <sadmin> hi all my machine on doing apt-get update gives error Failed to fetch http://apt-proxy:1010/debian/pool/main/libn/libnet-daemon-perl/libnet-daemon-perl_0.38-1.1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[07:29] <sadmin> whats this mean
[07:29]  * budluva turns his attention to halo3
[07:29] <coz_> ubuntu feisty   vorbis-tools   sox and mpg123-alsa  mouse/over play ogg and mp3 but not wav  although the last install it worked fine
[07:30] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, looks like you've this theme selected and it was uninstalled by gutsy somehow. It's only a Feisty package.
[07:30] <FantasticFoo> predaeus: hmm... i'm gonna try and reinstall feisty-gdm themes
[07:30] <predaeus> yea
[07:30] <veggieoil> OK drderek, but i was turned off by all the  * * syntax
[07:30] <veggieoil> thanks for help anyhow
[07:31] <FantasticFoo> predaeus: oh. weird. do you happen to know how one might try and switch gdm themes?
[07:31] <predaeus> newbieee, right-click on panel, add Launcher
[07:31] <ActySofts> happy new year everyone!
[07:31] <coz_> ActySofts, well one more day here guy for new years :)
[07:31] <DrDerek> veggieoil -- * means everytime
[07:31] <ActySofts> meh :)
[07:31] <cyphase> Does anyone know how I can umake my bittorrent program only use 30KB/s upload speeds, besides the built in options. I have it set to a 30KB/s maximum, but when you look at it in a bandwidth monitor, it's more like 40-45KB/s
[07:31] <cyphase> make*
[07:32] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, eh the options are in Settings->Login Window in Xubuntu, not sure what it's called in Ubuntu, but it's the same application.
[07:32] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, maybe Login Manager or something.
[07:32] <ActySofts> I seem to be having a strange problem, as both Banshee and Totem (and I bet other gstreamer players) can't play OGG files at all, yet using gstreamer directly works fine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/179506
[07:32] <DrDerek> minutes hours dayOfMonth month dayOfWeek -- script
[07:32] <veggieoil> yeah, more stuff to remember!
[07:32] <DrDerek> so, if you didn't care what minutes, * would be the place
[07:33] <nickrud> ActySofts, you the guy that was working with crimson on this?
[07:33] <FantasticFoo> predaeus: hm. should this still be a problem after i log in, since my graphical user interface is indeed messed up even after i log in
[07:33] <ActySofts> yes (btw, it's crimsun)
[07:33] <nickrud> ActySofts, yeah, didn't want to disturb him :)
[07:33] <siddhant> hi. can anyone please tell me the default font settings in ubuntu 7.10?
[07:33] <DrDerek> veggieoil - yeah, it's confusing at first, seriously though, I just learned how to use it myself and it took me about a week to understand
[07:33] <ActySofts> I reported the bug if you look at that link, there's more info there
[07:33] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, hm nah, I don't think it should influence the Desktop.
[07:33] <omer> siddhant: sans?
[07:33] <nickrud> ActySofts, he's the ubuntu sound guy, if he couldn't identify it, he's got it on his list of things to do
[07:33] <predaeus> FantasticFoo, should not
[07:33] <siddhant> "sans" for all ?
[07:33] <FantasticFoo> predaeus: damn. now i have an even bigger problem
[07:34] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, are you using your old home directory by chance?
[07:34] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: what do you mean?
[07:34] <omer> siddhant: have you looked at font settings in preferences > appereance?
[07:34] <ActySofts> he told me to report it, I just reported it, and when I tried totem, noom, no sound...*goes to comment*
[07:34] <newbieee> how do i add a my most usable programs to panel in xfce????
[07:34] <veggieoil> drderek, from bug report: "at runs like cron, it does not have your Xorg environment and cannot launch X applications without additional scripting, etc"
[07:34] <predaeus> drambuie, yes, was an upgrade it seems
[07:34] <loudnlownoma> Anyone familiar with changing the priority of the network connections?  My specific problem is trying to make sure that my dial-up(of sorts) connection stays the primary when the Ethernet cable is connected to my router, for local network access...
[07:34] <drambuie> you may want to remove your old config;s from your home directory - the .gnome
[07:34] <veggieoil> does this mean i will have same issue?
[07:34] <Helios> *newbie* click and drag
[07:34] <siddhant> omer : yes. i want the font settings that come as a default in ubuntu.
[07:34] <nickrud> ActySofts, yes, so it's in the bug system and doesn't get lost. You're not gonna get any better help here than you've already had
[07:34] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: i have to do that in my bios
[07:35] <drambuie> the hidden files i mean.  be carefull not to remove something you need though
[07:35] <siddhant> omer : from system - preferences - appearance
[07:35] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: oh. i'll try that! that seems like it should work
[07:35] <FantasticFoo> ok linux-reboot-brb
[07:35] <ActySofts> ok
[07:35] <omer> siddhant: yes, you can find the settings in there.
[07:35] <siddhant> omer : actually i installed Mac4Lin. and now i want to remove it.
[07:35] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: Wouldn't a BIOS setting cause it to have trouble in Windows as well(this machine is dual-booted, Gutsy and Vista)
[07:35] <ActySofts> In the meantime, I guess I'll go back to xine :)
[07:35] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: ah
[07:36] <nickrud> :)
[07:36] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: it didn't affect me
[07:36] <siddhant> omer : i knw i can find the settings there. :) currently those are all changed, i just want the default ones. :)
[07:36] <ubuntu_> hello! i need some help
[07:36] <ubuntu_> i am using the 7.04 live cd
[07:36] <rencore_> how can i close firefox but save my open tabs
[07:36] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: my machine is partitioned but I also don't use both partitions consecutively
[07:36] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: Hmmm....   I looked through there the other night but didn't really notice anything that looked related
[07:37] <veggieoil> rencore_ - use tabmixplus plugin i think
[07:37] <ubuntu_> i want to mount my ntfs partition, how do i do it? I mean i want to be able to write to it too? I can only mount it using mount ( as read only ). apt-cache search ntfs-3g returns nothing :(
[07:37] <kbrosnan> rencore_: every time or just this once?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> ubuntu 7.04 live cd here
[07:37] <nickrud> rencore_, or killall firefox-bin , it'll offer to open all tabs when it's started next time :)
[07:37] <predaeus> rencore_, you can also bookmark all open tabs to a folder, and then open all bookmarks again.
[07:37] <predaeus> g
[07:37]  * ubuntu_ wonders
[07:37] <martzipAN^> is there a way to make symbolic link from computer that has samba share to a diffrent computer in the network? (both of them are ubuntu)
[07:37] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: do you not want your dial up as priority when using Windows?
[07:37] <rencore_> i think i will use nickruds way
[07:37] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: The other thing along with it (because it wouldn't be fun if it was just something simple) is that the dialup is via a USB connection from my cell phone.  Would that also possibly be BIOS related?
[07:38] <omer> siddhant: hmms, good luck with it ;)
[07:38] <jlulian38> wtf, gparted thinks my hard drive is 33.6GB, and it's 160GB
[07:38] <verb> guys is there a way to install the dependencies of a package without installing the package itself ?
[07:38] <omer> siddhant: simple choice, add a new user, login with it check the settings
[07:38] <omer> siddhant: then just remove it ;)
[07:38] <nickrud> ubuntu_, you're missing some repos then. System->admin->software sources, make sure main, restricted, universe and multiverse are selected
[07:38] <siddhant> omer : wow. never thought of it. thanks!
[07:38] <ss_> I am using Kubuntu 7.10, when I shutdown the system it does not halts the message is as folllows "halt: Unable to iterate IDE devices: No such file or directory" I had this problem before also but then I solved it by adding "acpi-force" in /boot/grub/menu.list file's boot entry Any ideas?
[07:38] <siddhant> omer : i'll jst try it out.
[07:39] <ubuntu_> nickrud: ok, checking!
[07:39] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: absolutely.  but you want to make sure that your BIOS settings include all available network connections
[07:39] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: What I meant above was that in Vista, even with the Ethernet connected, the dial-up will stay connecting, and it will use either connection to get online.  Because the router has no incoming connection outside the network, it goes back to the dial-up.  That's basically what I want to do in Linux, but it acts like the Ethernet being connected means nothing else needs to connect.
[07:39] <martzipAN^> ?
[07:39] <wolferine> how do I change my user passwords in linux?
[07:39] <nickrud> wolferine, system->admin->users & groups
[07:39] <verb> guys is there a way to install the dependencies of a package without installing the package itself ?
[07:40] <drambuie> wolferine, pwd
[07:40] <nephlim> hey guys
[07:40] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: make ethernet your primary connection then
[07:40] <Lilly>  build-dep
[07:40] <omer> verb: yes, you can find the dependencies using dpkg
[07:40] <nephlim> is there a how to for beryl and gutsy?
[07:40] <omer> just do a 'man dpkg'
[07:40] <ubuntu_> nickrud: hmm yes!
[07:40] <nephlim> i can only find howtos for the older versions
[07:40] <ubuntu_> thanks nickrud :)
[07:40] <omer> nephlim: like what?
[07:40] <martzipAN^> is there a way to make symbolic link from computer that has samba share to a diffrent computer in the network? (both of them are ubuntu)
[07:40] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: and if it's not available, it will carry over to the next network connection you specify in the bios
[07:40] <jlulian38> what's going on with FloodBot?
[07:40] <drambuie> nephlim, compiz is your beryl for gutsy
[07:41] <MooMooM> floodbot is replicating itself, like the Smiths in Matrix 2
[07:41] <nickrud> !compiz | nephlim
[07:41] <ubotu> nephlim: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:41] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: I'll have to look again and see if anything seems to mention that...  Any other ideas if that doesn't do it?
[07:41] <ubuntu_> lol MooMooM
[07:41] <wolferine> and sudo's password, how do you change that, just change the root's pass ?
[07:41] <verb> omer,  I know but that will just list them, I want to install them(it's tedious to copy/paste each dependency)
[07:41] <scguy318> !root | wolferine
[07:41] <ubotu> wolferine: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:41] <scguy318> wolferine: you change your user account's pass
[07:41] <nickrud> wolferine, sudo password is your own password
[07:41] <yook> whats the cmd to see a list of users in a group
[07:41] <nephlim> omer; like installing it :) all the old howtos say to add to the apt sources.list with foo.edgy or foo.feisty
[07:42] <drambuie> nephlim, install emerald to use themes
[07:42] <omer> nephlim: it comes standard?
[07:42] <nickrud> nephlim, in gutsy, compiz comes in the normal install. Ignore all those howtos, use the one I linked you to
[07:42] <omer> nephlim: try system > preferences > appereance > visual effects?
[07:42] <verb> omer, you know a way?
[07:42] <nephlim> okay i'll try those nickrud  and drambuie
[07:43] <omer> verb: hmms, you can install it at once with an awk statement
[07:43] <nephlim> actually, i'll pour myself a drambuie while i'm at in :)
[07:43] <nephlim> at it*
[07:43] <omer> verb: i used one while moving my system, i'll look it up if you can hang around
[07:43] <drambuie> nephlim, to use beryl boarders , just install emerald
[07:43] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: no, sorry.  I'm a linux n00b  :)
[07:43] <lonejack> just a question, I've installed sun java6 jre, but on FF on http://javatester.org/version.html it show  java ver: 1.4.2 from GNU claspath. What is better to install? java6 and download the GNU or uninstall java6? Thank you
[07:43] <verb> omer, yes please
[07:43] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: No worries.  Thanks for the tip, and trust me, I'm not expert myself.  :)
[07:43] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: Back in a few.  :)
[07:44] <drambuie> i luv drinkin drambuie XP
[07:44] <nickrud> lonejack,   sun-java6-plugin is the best. You on 32bit, right?
[07:44] <ubuntu_> i have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[07:44] <ubuntu_> and i still can't find ntfs-3g
[07:44] <nickrud> ubuntu_, did you update after you added the new repos?
[07:44] <lonejack> nickrud: yes I am
[07:44] <nephlim> i made a rusty nail with drambuie and segrams VO last night. not as good as using scotch, but it was nice
[07:44] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: i had to modify the preference of my network order in my bios when i installed ubuntu on a partition
[07:44] <scguy318> !info ntfs-3g | ubuntu_
[07:44] <ubotu> ubuntu_: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[07:44] <nickrud> ubuntu_, I meant   sudo aptitude update  , then search
[07:45] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: what kind of computer are you using
[07:45] <nickrud> !info ntfs-3g feisty | ubuntu_
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> damn! i removed ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 and the problem still persists
[07:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[07:45] <drambuie> oh yummers .>
[07:45] <nickrud> FantasticFoo, what problem?
[07:45] <jlulian38> Anyone have the faintest clue as to why my Harddrive would suddenly become smaller?
[07:46] <cptR3D> can someone help me change a video driver?
[07:46] <nickrud> an incredible shrinking ray?
[07:46] <hwilde> jlulian38, check it with gparted
[07:46] <jlulian38> I did
[07:46] <jlulian38> 33.8GB
[07:46] <MooMooM> though my change from ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop keeps freezing up my computer on install
[07:46] <nephlim> jlulian38, voodoo?
[07:46] <FantasticFoo> nickrud: i get an error at the startup of the gdm saying that the image "bottom_bar.svg" could not be loaded. then when i login my user interface is totally messed up
[07:46] <jlulian38> from 160GB
[07:46] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, .local? .config?
[07:46] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, make a new user see if it is your profile
[07:46] <korosora_> guys guys
[07:46] <korosora_> my ubuntu CRASHED.
[07:47] <korosora_> T_T
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> hwilde: yeah that seems like the best idea
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: hm i might try that first
[07:47] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, then apt-get reinstall gnome*
[07:47] <FantasticFoo> hwilde: ok, i'll try that. thanks!
[07:48] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, or login failsafe mode
[07:48] <FantasticFoo> failsafe gnome doesnt work either
[07:48] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, install another window manager like icewm and try that
[07:48] <difranco> gnight
[07:48] <drambuie> yea, sometimes it's a good idea to move your user to something else before doing a fresh install, but dist upgrading can be a mess.
[07:49] <NetLarIrvine> I am having trouble printing to a Samba printer
[07:49] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, did you do update - upgrade - dist-upgrade in that order?
[07:49] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: yeah
[07:49] <NetLarIrvine> I can add the printer, but when I try to print to it, nothing happens
[07:49] <NetLarIrvine> What would be the problem?
[07:49] <nickrud> FantasticFoo, run   sudo dpkg --configure -a   , then run the dist-upgrade again
[07:50] <nickrud> FantasticFoo, after that, run   sudo apt-get -f install
[07:50] <veggieoil> drderek, the "sleep" command works for me.  but i must count number of seconds for it to execute
[07:50] <FantasticFoo> nickrud: ok, thanks. i'll try that
[07:51] <FantasticFoo> ok i'm gonna reboot and see if i cant get this thing to work
[07:51] <FantasticFoo> brb again
[07:51] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, but it does sound like one of your .config files are pointing to something that doesn't exsist anymore.
[07:51] <david____> oes anyone have a few minutes to help solve a router question... I setup a ubuntu router (shorewall/bind/dhcp3-server). The box has 2 internal interfaced that are bridged. The box works great with clients directly connected. I plugged my wireless linksys router and access to the web from its clients is very very slow. I am looking for some pointers on how to fix this problem. Thx
[07:51] <nickrud> or something in gconf
[07:51] <NetLarIrvine> Is there somethng else that needs to be done?
[07:52] <Mba7eth> morning all ....
[07:52] <veggieoil> anyone here familiar with the "at" command?
[07:53] <hwilde> veggieoil, what is your question
[07:53] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: Well, no luck...  :(   Nothing in Bios about the Network card, other than enabling or disabling the onboard card
[07:53] <veggieoil> I cant get at to start a program on a schedule
[07:53] <hwilde> veggieoil, why not use crontab
[07:54] <veggieoil> i don't need ti to be recurring
[07:54] <Mba7eth> ppl can i have some thing similar to mac dock that magnifies --> in ubuntu ?
[07:54] <truna> david____, how slow? what speed is the client running at? what tool do you use to measure this?
[07:54] <david____> truna, really slow. It takes about 2 minutes to access google.com
[07:55] <veggieoil> would like something similar to the windoze program scheduler
[07:55] <hwilde> veggieoil, crontab
[07:55] <truna> david____, what os are the clients running out of?
[07:55] <MooMooM> loudnlownoma: are you using your system's most current bios available?
[07:55] <veggieoil> have been unsuccessful at getting crontab to work
[07:55] <Aztec007> hey everyone, I'm having some difficulties correctly formatting my external USB hard drive with the ext3 filesystem and fdisk is not cooperating, anyone have any recommended apps other than fdisk that can help me out?
[07:55] <hwilde> veggieoil, what program are you trying to run and when do you want to run it
[07:56] <MooMooM> partition magic Aztec007
[07:56] <david____> gutsy server for the router. MacOS for the clients. The problem is only when I add the linksys router in between
[07:56] <DrDerek> did you try crontab -e veggieoil?
[07:56] <veggieoil> trying to get firefox to run during off peak hours
[07:56] <Aztec007> MooMooM: is the for linux?
[07:56] <MooMooM> that's what i used, but did it from windos xp
[07:56] <Aztec007> *that
[07:56] <truna> david____, adding it in between what?
[07:56] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: As far as I can tell.  It's a re-built HP.  I know, I know.  But it was a good deal, a powerful rig, and most everything works outof the box with Gutsy
[07:56] <kr00l> does anyone know how to fix Gnash? I can't view certain web pages
[07:57] <veggieoil> yes drderek
[07:57] <veggieoil> crontab line is:  * * * * gimp # Untitled,
[07:57] <MooMooM> Aztec007: partition magic for windows can format your external HDD into ext3 format
[07:57] <veggieoil> i just used gimp as a test
[07:57] <MooMooM> i can give you the torrent if you want
[07:57] <hwilde> veggieoil, no that would start it every minute
[07:57] <Aztec007> MooMooM: OH
[07:57] <ActySofts> kr00l: gnash is *alpha*, of course it won't work with everything
[07:57] <Aztec007> cool
[07:57] <Aztec007> Thanks MooMooM
[07:57] <veggieoil> yes - i am testing
[07:58] <david____> truna, I have the linux box as a router/gateway. I plug the linksys router on an internal NIC to provide wireless access to my laptops. In that case the connection is very slow. If I plug a client directly into the linux router, name resolution and web access are really fast. I suspect some routing issues.
[07:58] <hwilde> veggieoil, type in man crontab and read the examples   http://linux.die.net/man/5/crontab
[07:58] <MooMooM> do you want it Aztec007?
[07:58] <MooMooM> i can dcc it to you
[07:58] <Aztec007> MooMooM: yes I would :)
[07:58] <Aztec007> MooMooM: just point me in the right direction
[07:58] <loudnlownoma> MooMooM: But it still seems strange to be a BIOS issue.  I mean I have seen stranger, but just seems like Ubuntu starts ignoring the connection from the dial up.  It's still running, the adapter still gets an IP the whole time, it just bumps all connections over to eth0 instead of the dial up.  If I disconnect the ethernet cable, my connection works again as normal, without doing anything
[07:58] <kr00l> ActySofts: I installed Mindravia and evrything worked when i went to view flash videos
[07:59] <MooMooM> actually what i have sending is the ZIP
[07:59] <MooMooM> it's not that big
[07:59] <hwilde> loudnlownoma,  kill the NEtworkMAnager and see if your problem persists
[07:59] <veggieoil> thanks hwilde, will see what is wrong with the crontab i currently have...
[08:00] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: will that still let the ethernet connection work, so I can access my other PC's?
[08:00] <truna> david____, whats the ip subnet you assigned to the internal subnet? and how about the client side of the linksy what ip subnet?
[08:00] <kr00l> ActySofts: why did Mindravia have everthing working?
[08:00] <Aztec007> MooMooM: whats dcc mean?? (I'm new to linux
[08:00] <ActySofts> no idea
[08:00] <oddalot> do they make usb hubs to share printers?
[08:00] <nickrud> kr00l, when did you install the mandriva?
[08:00] <MooMooM> Aztec007 check pm
[08:00] <truna> oddalot they make usb hubs
[08:01] <Aztec007> ??
[08:01] <xeQter> Hello
[08:01] <kr00l> nickrud: lastnight
[08:01] <david____> truna, the linux router assigns 192.168.1.200-249 the linksys router assigns 192.168.3.30 to 50
[08:01] <Aztec007> MooMooM: where can I check that
[08:01] <Aztec007> ?
[08:01] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: I ask because I can disable the eth0 in network manager and my connection resumes as while, but disabling it means I might as well disconnect it, and it would be nice to be able to access my other PC's without losing my connection
[08:01] <MooMooM> it's on mirc
[08:01] <xeQter> fun
[08:01] <MooMooM> look in the left side of your screen
[08:01] <kr00l> nickrud: actually everything worked on the live cd! However, i didn't know how to get stuff installed
[08:01] <Aztec007> Oh boy
[08:01] <hwilde> loudnlownoma, I had to uninstall the network manager bc it kept dropping.
[08:01] <nephlim> drambuie, i installed emerald and i've got the theme manager open, but i can't seem to get the themes to take effect
[08:01] <oddalot> do these hubs just branch off further usb connections, or do they allow for multiple computer access?
[08:02] <fcbv> malang
[08:02] <Aztec007> MooMooM: ok, I'm lost what's MIRC?
[08:02] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: Alrighty.  I'll try that and see how it goes...
[08:02] <MooMooM> Aztec007: what in the sam hill are you using to connect to IRC with?
[08:02] <drambuie> nephlim, goto gnome-look.org and get some!
[08:02] <truna> david____, does your ubuntu runs dhcp and doles out the correct dns server to the linksys? and the linksys in turn gets this dns feed and pass it to the clients correctly?
[08:03] <Aztec007> MooMooM: Xchat Gnome >:(
[08:03] <nephlim> drambuie, i've got some imported already
[08:03] <nickrud> kr00l, the reason the ubuntu one doesn't work is it downloads the latest version of flash from adobe. Adobe just updated flash, and konquer doesn't work right with the new version. Apparently the developers have decided not to enable the new version until it does work
[08:03] <david____> yes, the linksys sees the right information and so do the clients
[08:03] <MooMooM> oh
[08:03] <nephlim> i just don't see how to... turn them on so to speak
[08:03] <Aztec007> YEAH
[08:03] <drambuie> nephlim, you can install them from emerald
[08:03]  * nephlim looks for an apply button or something
[08:03] <Aztec007> MooMooM: dont worry about MooMooM, I'll find it myself
[08:03] <nickrud> kr00l, so, apparently mandriva downloads and installs it anyway (or installs it in a different manner)
[08:03] <kr00l> nickrud: well how am i supposed to watch pron?
[08:04] <Aztec007> MooMooM: thank you for all your help though
[08:04] <slliness> drambuie, what are you again part cognac and part brandy?
[08:04] <kr00l> nickrud: no it's builtin, part of the live cd
[08:04] <nickrud> !brokenflash | kr00l (go to the text in blue)
[08:04] <ubotu> kr00l (go to the text in blue): The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:04] <Aztec007> MooMooM: your mean :(
[08:04] <MooMooM> ?
[08:04] <truna> david____, when you ping from the client to the ubuntu, how long does it take
[08:04] <truna> ?
[08:04] <nephlim> slliness, it's scotch with corriander and honey
[08:04] <drambuie> i think it knows howto install them from the tar'd archives, there aught to be an import button
[08:04] <albech> which piece of software could i use to record from my webcam?
[08:05] <kr00l> nickrud: thx man
[08:05] <kr00l> nickrud: eta on the offical fix?
[08:05] <drambuie> slliness, malt whiskey with honey .P
[08:05] <patbam> which package contains ImageMagick's convert commandline tool?
[08:06] <heartsblood> Does anybody know if it's possible to sync an ipod nano to a linux pc?
[08:06] <cabrioleur> kr00l: download flash from the adobe website. Inside is a script, tell it to install in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins. That's all.
[08:06] <Disastro> which gen?
[08:06] <heartsblood> third
[08:06] <Disastro> 3G nano?
[08:06] <heartsblood> yea
[08:06] <albech> anyone know a good tool for recording the webcamera input?
[08:07] <Disastro> i don't think so
[08:07] <Disastro> its encypted
[08:07] <kr00l> cabrioleur: I'm new to linux and i don't know how to install the script
[08:07] <Disastro> but i search
[08:07] <heartsblood> ok how about this
[08:07] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: what was the command that you gave me, to reinstall any packages with "gnome*" in them?
[08:08] <heartsblood> does anybody know of a mp3 (ogg/acc/etc) player that has atleast 8gigs, is tiny (something on the scale of the 3g nano, and can sync with linux?
[08:08] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, hmm... dunno if that was me, hows about ubuntu-desktop?
[08:08] <hwilde> heartsblood, i use gtkpod for ipod
[08:08] <hwilde> !ipod | Heartsbane
[08:08] <ubotu> Heartsbane: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:08] <nickrud> kr00l, it's been almost a month, no idea
[08:08] <hwilde> !ipod | heartsblood
[08:08] <ubotu> heartsblood: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:08] <cabrioleur> kr00l: I'll follow you. Go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash and download tar.gz
[08:08] <hwilde> !flash
[08:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:08] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:08] <hwilde> just go there for flash
[08:08] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: oh. yeah, i tried that
[08:08] <hwilde> flash is a package in synaptic
[08:09] <hwilde> don't use the website link
[08:09] <david____> truna, I think I found the problem. my clients get "192.168.1.0, 192.168.1.1" for dns servers. The first one is wrong and I think the resolution must time out to start the next one. Using only the second one fixes the speed issue. I need to figure out why my dns server is sending the wrong info, or the linksys client is misbehaving...
[08:09] <Sea> Hello all, I am having some problems getting my dualview to work on: Ubuntu 7.10, using GeForce 7600GT (256MB), the main monitor is a: Samsung SyncMaster 931BF (Digital Flat Panel,19"), Second monitor: Normal CTR 17"
[08:09] <modarm> Hello all, does anyone know where a howto is on getting bluetooth to work on a Acer 2410
[08:09] <kr00l> cabrioleur: got it
[08:09] <hanasaki> hwo do i generate new courier tls certs?
[08:09] <hwilde> david____, you could just comment out the getdns part from the dhclient config and hardcode your resolv.conf
[08:09] <cabrioleur> kr00l: open terminal
[08:09] <truna> david____, okay..
[08:09] <kr00l> cabrioleur: k
[08:09] <hwilde> !bluetooth | modarm
[08:09] <ubotu> modarm: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:10] <drambuie> i dont think you would want every package with gnome in it :P
[08:10] <heartsblood> hwidle: your app does not cover 3g ipods and I need something small.  can you recomend anything that is on the same size scale and works with linux?
[08:10] <cabrioleur> kr00l: type cd Desktop
[08:10] <kr00l> cabrioleur: done
[08:10] <cabrioleur> kr00l: now type "tar xzvf install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz "
[08:10] <hwilde> heartsblood, amarok and gtkpod work for me.
[08:10] <david____> truna, thanks for the help. it may not look like it but you pointed me to the problem.
[08:10] <modarm> cheers, ubotu
[08:10] <hwilde> kr00l, just use synaptic!  flash is an easy install don't use the weblink
[08:10] <truna> david____, am glad am of assistance
[08:10] <heartsblood> hwilde: do you have a 3g ipod?
[08:10] <kr00l> cabrioleur: k
[08:11] <hwilde> heartsblood, no I have 20G rev3
[08:11] <nickrud> hwilde, the flash in the repos are broken.
[08:11] <cabrioleur> kr00l: now type "cd install_flash_player_9_linux"
[08:11] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, like i said before, it does sound like one of your .config files are pointing to something that doesn't exsist anymore.
[08:11]  * hwilde starts at nickrud    but that is the synaptic way
[08:11] <kr00l> k
[08:11] <cptR3D> w00t
[08:11] <nickrud> hwilde, so, sometimes we gotta deal with reality :)
[08:11] <heartsblood> hwilde: 3g = third generation not 3gigabytes.
[08:11] <Zemus> Link to the ubuntu pastebin?
[08:11] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: i removed ~/.config
[08:11] <FantasticFoo> drambuie: i think i'm probably just going to do a clean install
[08:11] <kr00l> cabrioleur: done
[08:11] <drambuie> maybe .gconf
[08:11] <Zemus> ...?
[08:11] <Disastro> it might be possible to sync 3g nano with floola
[08:11] <Disastro> or is it?
[08:12] <hwilde> nickrud, wait... did i join the hardy channel?  where am i
[08:12] <Disastro> i cant find what ipod are supported
[08:12] <cabrioleur> kr00l: now type " sudo ./flashplayer-installer"
[08:12] <nickrud> hwilde, see topic :)
[08:12] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, did you make a new user profile ??
[08:12] <FantasticFoo> hwilde: i couldnt figure out how
[08:12] <Sea> Hi all, I'm new to ubuntu, I have a question about dualview (Been over the ubuntu forums first) It is about: Dualview, Anyone willing to try help me, please send me a private message. Getting wery confused by the many comversations gooing on in this window. Thanks in advance
[08:12] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, go to system or whatever users and add a new user.  then log out and log in as the new user
[08:12] <drambuie> adduser?
[08:12] <Zemus> Link to the ubuntu pastebin?
[08:12] <hwilde> !xinerama | Sea
[08:12] <ubotu> Sea: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:12] <hwilde> !dualhead | Sea
[08:12] <ubotu> Sea: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:13] <hwilde> !pastebin | Zemus
[08:13] <ubotu> Zemus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:13] <kr00l> cabrioleur: k this is the part i get stuck on
[08:13] <Zemus> hwilde, one thousand internets. Thanks!
[08:13] <nickrud> FantasticFoo, when you do, be sure to give that user admin privs so you can sudo at need
[08:13] <hwilde> yep
[08:13] <FantasticFoo> hwilde: but if it were a user issue, wouldn't a failsafe gnome session work?
[08:13] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, not as your user
[08:13] <cabrioleur> kr00l: does it say to press enter?
[08:13] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, why wouldn't you try my suggestion before going thru the trouble of reinstalling from scratch??
[08:13] <kr00l> cabrioleur: yeah did that. I get stuck on /usr/lib/mozilla
[08:13] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, and if that doesnt work,  apt-get install icewm  and login with that
[08:14] <hwilde> kr00l, are you doing this as super user??
[08:14] <Disastro> heartsblood: it's possible to sync 3g with floola
[08:14] <FantasticFoo> hwilde: oh ok. well i'll give that a try.
[08:14] <heartsblood> floola?
[08:14] <kr00l> hwilde: idk? i'm the only user
[08:14] <heartsblood> got a link?
[08:14] <cabrioleur> kr00l: you have to type /usr/lib/mozilla
[08:14] <Disastro> but you migh need some tuning
[08:14] <hwilde> FantasticFoo, if you install icewm it shows up in the session menu like failsafe mode.  it's either the user, or gnome. play process of elimination a little bit
[08:14] <heartsblood> n/m found it
[08:14] <hwilde> kr00l, what command are you typing in exactly ?
[08:14] <Sea> Thanks to: Unontu and hwilde, I will try thoose pointers, then return. Thank you
[08:15] <Disastro> spanish(or what?) guide: http://inclusa.blogspot.com/2007/12/sincronitzar-ipod-3g-en-linux.html
[08:15] <drambuie> FantasticFoo, it does sound like you do have some fecal remance left over from your last version
[08:15] <cabrioleur> kr00l: sorry, type "/usr/lib/firefox
[08:15] <Disastro> but heartsblood
[08:15]  * nickrud is finding going flash free strangely liberating
[08:15] <Disastro> try out
[08:15] <kr00l> cabrioleur screwed it up
[08:16] <hwilde> nickrud, if it stayed broken an oss competitor would spring up in about 8 hours
[08:16] <cabrioleur> kr00l: did you type it in?
[08:16] <kr00l> cabrioleur: i have to start over
[08:16] <hwilde> kr00l, you need to do this as super user.
[08:16] <kr00l> cabrioleur i tried to copy paste and screwed it up
[08:16] <hwilde> you won't be able to access system files
[08:16] <Disastro> whats the default window manager used by ubuntu?
[08:16] <igcek> #ubuntu-slo
[08:16] <nickrud> hwilde, they have, there are packages available, but i'm a purist
[08:16] <cabrioleur> hwilde: he is doing it as su
[08:16] <hwilde> nickrud, i'm saying if nobody in linux could view flash... it would be good for the oss community.  everyone would be forced to switch overnight
[08:16] <predaeus> Disastro, metacity
[08:17] <cabrioleur> kr00l: what do you mean by copy paste?
[08:17] <hwilde> cabrioleur, ok if u are sure
[08:17] <Disastro> no it isnt
[08:17] <Disastro> or is it
[08:17] <hwilde> Disastro, metacity
[08:17] <Random832> anyone know a way to somehow reset USB - is there a general way to do this? When my computer goes into hibernate mode; after it wakes up it won't recognize USB devices
[08:17] <nickrud> hwilde, nah, they'd figure out a way to make that odd microsoft thing work
[08:17] <Disastro> frets on fire works only when i use metacity --replace
[08:17] <Disastro> but not before that
[08:17] <kr00l> cabrioleur: I tried to copy and paste the error and i screwed up the terminal so i'm doing the steps again
[08:17] <hwilde> nickrud, microsoft is way worse than adobe.... not even comparable
[08:17] <Disastro> or did i do it for nothing?
[08:18] <cabrioleur> kr00l: ok, just type /usr/lib/firefox as a path.
[08:18] <Disastro> i mean metacity --replace
[08:18] <predaeus> Disastro, probably.
[08:18] <jumbers> Is it possible to create a hotkey in Nautilus that will add an audio file to my Audacious queue? (Not open, but add it to the bottom of the queue)
[08:18] <hwilde> Random832, you could do a complete subsystem restart with  /etc/init.d/hal restart     but that is the whole hardware abstraction layer
[08:18] <hwilde> !hotkey | jumbers
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <cabrioleur> hwilde: I'm a big fan of microsoft. I don't like adobe thought.
[08:18] <hwilde> hmm I know there is a hotkey faq
[08:18] <Random832> hwilde: will that fix it?
[08:18] <Disastro> what are other window managers for ubuntu (not kubuntu etc.)
[08:18] <nickrud> hwilde, bottom line, closed source, so I'd say they're pretty much the same in the long run. I'm thinking of making a donation to the gnash project just on general principles
[08:18] <soldats> xmodmap
[08:18] <hwilde> Random832, it will either fix it or not fix it, or break other things
[08:19] <Random832> what else is in the hal?
[08:19] <kr00l> cabrioleur: i'm at :~/Desktop/install_flash_player__linux$
[08:19] <Random832> apart from usb
[08:19] <hwilde> nickrud, gnash >> adobe >> microsoft
[08:19] <cabrioleur> kr00l: now type " sudo ./flashplayer-installer"
[08:19] <jumbers> hwilde: The question is more about how to make it add to the queue instead of open the file
[08:19] <predaeus> Disastro, Kubuntu uses kdesktop I think (not sure about the name), Xubuntu uses xfwm.
[08:19] <hwilde> Disastro, use icewm it is lightweight and awesome.
[08:19] <Random832> meh, i'll try it next time, it probably won't break anything restarting won't fix, and my alternative is to restart
[08:19] <kr00l> cabrioleur: then
[08:19] <Random832> thanks
[08:19] <cabrioleur> kr00l: just pres enter, and type /usr/lib/firefox
[08:20] <hwilde> oh duh
[08:20] <kr00l> cabrioleur: excellent now?
[08:20] <hwilde> !hotkeys | jumbers
[08:20] <ubotu> jumbers: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[08:20] <cabrioleur> does it say to proceed with the instalation?
[08:21] <kr00l> cabrioleur: thanks a lot!
[08:21] <cabrioleur> kr00l: no problemo.
[08:21] <kr00l> cabrioleur: do you have any ubuntu books that you'd suggest to me?
[08:21] <cabrioleur> kr00l: slackbook.
[08:22] <kr00l> cabrioleur: is that ubuntu speciffic?
[08:22] <cabrioleur> cabrioleur: nope, but 95% of stuff up there is basic, and it applies to all distributions.
[08:22] <jumbers> nenolod: Are you around?
[08:22] <cabrioleur> kr00l: I don't use ubuntu.
[08:23] <kr00l> cabrioleur: why are you in here then?
[08:23] <imyousuf> Can someone please show me a resource on how to setup Virtual Private Server?
[08:23] <kr00l> cabrioleur: to help ubuntu noobs
[08:23] <hwilde> imyousuf, what do you mean
[08:23] <cabrioleur> kr00l: because I don't know other so active channel. I'm on many channels right now.
[08:23] <hwilde> kr00l, ubuntu is based on debian there are many similarities across several distros
[08:23] <distrot> hi anyone know how to help my computer boot up in ubuntu?
[08:23] <hwilde> there are people here with many different flavors
[08:24] <hwilde> distrot, download the livecd iso and burn it to a cd then reboot your computer and boot from cd
[08:24] <imyousuf> hwilde: I am totally ignorant/unaware of how to setup a VPS system where I will host multiple Ubuntu OSs, I am looking for a how to doc
[08:24] <veggieoil> crontab files are different in crontab -e and sudo crontab -e
[08:24] <heartsblood>  Disastro: I thank you for the help from before but something concerns me with this floola app.  It did not come with a gnu license nor do I see anywhere to download the source.  what kind of application is this?
[08:24] <hwilde> imyousuf, i've never heard of anything like this.  you should search on google
[08:24] <hwilde> veggieoil, crontab -e is your user crontab,  sudo is the superuser crontab
[08:24] <kr00l> cabrioleur / hwilde: I have the Ubuntu Linux Bible and I still haven't figured out how to mount files as a cd. LOL
[08:24] <Disastro> its an program to sync your ipod with mac windows or linux
[08:24] <Disastro> i haven tused it
[08:24] <heartsblood> hm
[08:25] <hwilde> kr00l, look up mkisofs
[08:25] <imyousuf> hwilde - just wanted further clarify VPS means Virtual Private Server
[08:25] <Disastro> but its the only program to sync 3g nano (i think)
[08:25] <imyousuf> just making sure that I did not say something stupidly wrong :)
[08:25] <veggieoil> my job is in user crontab and not superuser crontab. i would have thought it would still work?
[08:25] <hwilde> imyousuf, google it.
[08:25] <cabrioleur> kr00l: mount iso files with "mount -o loop isofile mountdir.
[08:25] <hwilde> imyousuf, i've never heard of that it sounds cool
[08:26] <imyousuf> hwilde: :)
[08:26] <hwilde> veggieoil, you need to specify the full paths it will not run from any directory
[08:26] <kr00l> cabrioleur: you have any experience with software that is easy to rib dvd's with?
[08:26] <cabrioleur> kr00l: acidrip
[08:26] <veggieoil> why is my crontab file located at  File: /tmp/crontab.7OJcr3/crontab
[08:27] <hwilde> kr00l,   dvd::rip   or DVDecryptor
[08:27] <Disastro> heartsblood what concersn you?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> !dvd | kr00l
[08:27] <ubotu> kr00l: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:27] <veggieoil> ok hwilde - i will try putting in the full path to gimp...
[08:28] <distrot> it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/5bb97229/.... does not exist. dropping to a shell! busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) (initramfs) why will ubuntu not boot up?
[08:28] <kr00l> hwilde: I can't get those programs to see my dvds and rip them
[08:28] <hwilde> veggieoil, just put in this simple example so you can see how it works...      */2 * * * * echo "crontab executed `date +%F,%T`" >> ~/mylog.txt
[08:28] <hwilde> kr00l, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[08:28] <BaghdadBob> any xsane users here?  is there a way to speed up the writing to disk after scanning ?   I'm spending 3/4 of my time waiting for scanned pages to write :(
[08:28] <distrot> it says /dev/disk/by-uuid/5bb97229/.... does not exist. dropping to a shell! busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) (initramfs) why will ubuntu not boot up?
[08:29] <distrot> help
[08:29] <Buyydee> Hey. I have the NVidia restricted drivers installed and since yesterday (after they've been installed for over two months) my system keeps setting the resolution at startup to 1400x900 instead of 1680x1050. Ubuntu's resolution-tool doesn't change anything. I can change the resolution in nvidia-settings without problems, but after a restart the old one is back, even if i click "save configuration to X config file" as root. Does anyone happen to know
[08:29] <distrot> please
[08:29] <hwilde> distrot, boot into livecd.
[08:29] <Disastro> heartsblood: are you unconfortabel to use closed source programs?
[08:29] <hwilde> distrot, then fix your grub
[08:29] <hwilde> !fixgrub | distrot
[08:29] <ubotu> distrot: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:29] <jlulian38> Ok what is going on, I have "150.5GB Volume", but it shows up as 33.8GB under gparted
[08:29] <jlulian38> D=
[08:29] <jumbers> hwilde: They hotkeys FAQ you had it tell me isn't what I need. That's to set the action of various keys. I want to be able to hit like Ctrl + E in Nautilus and have it do an action on the file selected
[08:29] <hwilde> jlulian38, your partitions are that size.
[08:29] <jlulian38> ?
[08:29] <hwilde> jumbers, that is the link man...
[08:29] <heartsblood> Disastro: well there's no source, and no license to speak of.  I get a little paranoid when I can't see the cogs that make the program spin.
[08:30] <hwilde> jumbers, set the action for ^E  to do your thing
[08:31] <jlulian38> hwilde, what do you mean?
[08:31] <hwilde> jlulian38, does gparted show you a partition that size, or the entire device is that size
[08:31] <Disastro> only licence notification on download site is Floola is freely distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[08:31] <jlulian38> The entire device is 3.8GB
[08:32] <jlulian38> 33*
[08:32] <Disastro> if you want i can download it first and check if the porgram itself c ontains any licence
[08:32] <kr00l> hwilde: the prerequisits are =     *  DVDAuthor
[08:32] <kr00l>     * libdvdread
[08:32] <kr00l>     * growisofs
[08:32] <kr00l>     * mencoder
[08:32] <kr00l>     * mplayer
[08:32] <kr00l>     * libhal
[08:32] <kr00l>     * libdbus
[08:32] <kr00l>     * libdbus-qt
[08:32] <hwilde> have fun with your flood kick
[08:32] <hwilde> that is why god gave us pastebin
[08:32] <jlulian38> but on the drive is a 150GB "volume"
[08:32] <jlulian38> and the drive is 150GB
[08:32] <hwilde> jlulian38, what manufacturer
[08:32] <jburd> What could cause fc-cache to fail?
[08:32] <jlulian38> Uhhhh
[08:32] <jumbers> hwilde: Maybe I'm missing something, but these keyboard shortcuts are for pre-defined commands that are to be mapped to keys. There is no way to add new ones
[08:32] <jlulian38> lol i dunno
[08:33] <jlulian38> lemme check
[08:33] <hwilde> jumbers, you can define anything u want with keytouch http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[08:34] <cabrioleur> jumbers, open gconf-editor and find metacity.
[08:34] <veggieoil> hwilde, crontab -e gives:  * * * * * /usr/bin/gimp >/dev/null 2>&1 # Untitled,
[08:34] <jlulian38> Well what difference does the vendor make anyway D=
[08:34] <jumbers> cabrioleur: Okay
[08:34] <veggieoil> can you see anyreason why gimp isn't trying to run every minute?
[08:34] <hwilde> veggieoil, that line would execute gimp every minute and send the output to dev/null
[08:35] <hwilde> veggieoil, copy that exact line out of crontab and run it.
[08:35] <jlulian38> All I know is that it might have messed up its disk label or something
[08:35] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: No luck with the ethernet/dialup problem yet.  :(  Tried disabling the network manager toolbar applet with no luck, but can't find any processes for the network manager to kill, short of just uninstalling it completely.  Any other way you know of to disable it?
[08:35] <jlulian38> and it needs to be fixed
[08:35] <jlulian38> but I can't D=
[08:35] <veggieoil> ok
[08:35] <hwilde> jumbers, "Changing the settings of the keys"  http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/user_manual/node15.html
[08:35] <kr00l> anyone know how to get World Community Grid working?
[08:35] <hwilde> jlulian38, what manufacturer??
[08:35] <hwilde> jlulian38, you can overwrite the disk label I have done it before.  what type of device
[08:35] <veggieoil> nothing
[08:36] <jlulian38> It's an IDE drive :/
[08:36] <hwilde> loudnlownoma, ps -ef | grep Network
[08:36] <Disastro> heartsblood: everywhere i search floola has no official licence, its free or freeware. ill install it and check
[08:36] <jlulian38> I can't tell anything else right now
[08:36] <jlulian38> reinstalling you see
[08:36] <cabrioleur> jumbers: in keybinding_commands assign command, and in global_keybindings assign shortcut for the number with the command. The shortcut might look like <alt><ctrl>f
[08:36] <jlulian38> in a silly attempt to save it
[08:36] <hwilde> jlulian38, stick with seagate they are the best.
[08:36] <Disastro> heartsblood: i think its made by windows people to windows people :) they dont care about licences
[08:36] <jlulian38> I'll keep that in mind
[08:36] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: Thanks!  Lemme try it that way
[08:37] <heartsblood> eh
[08:37] <Eyemean> hi im new to linux and i followed a formn on how to install svn version of amsn, but it dose not appear on installation list and i want to remove
[08:37] <hwilde> loudnlownoma, the second column will be PID   the process ID.   kill -9 <PID>
[08:37] <Eyemean> how do i do that pls?
[08:37] <heartsblood> it's possible
[08:37] <jlulian38> I suppose it is posisble it received some bad bits and over wrote the partition table
[08:37] <ubuntu__> can we not setup wpa configuraion via gui still?
[08:37] <jlulian38> but I can still mount it
[08:37] <jlulian38> to and extent
[08:37] <hwilde> Eyemean, type in    sudo updatedb;    locate amsn;   then delete all the files
[08:37] <ubuntu__> i think it would be easy for newbies if its possible
[08:37] <jlulian38> it'll mount
[08:37] <ubuntu__> in gnome, i mean
[08:37] <veggieoil> hwilde: how about: * * * * * /usr/bin/gimp  # Untitled,
[08:37] <jlulian38> but it's all messed up to hell
[08:38] <hwilde> !fixmbr | jlulian38
[08:38] <ubotu> jlulian38: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <jumbers> cabrioleur: I want to be able to select a file in Nautilus, hit the keystroke, and have it pass the file path into the command
[08:38] <jlulian38> That's not the problem though D=
[08:38] <jlulian38> it'll boot
[08:38] <veggieoil> hwilde: /usr/bin/gimp launches gimp
[08:38] <jlulian38> all the way up to mounting the device
[08:38] <jumbers> cabrioleur: Is that possible?
[08:38] <hwilde> veggieoil, put in the whole command
[08:38] <jlulian38> then it kernel panics
[08:38] <hwilde> jlulian38, man e2label;   http://linux.die.net/man/8/e2label
[08:38] <veggieoil> but arent the **** all crontab specific
[08:39] <user3211> hey, I need some help to compile a game
[08:39] <Disastro> heartsblood: floola really has no licence
[08:39] <hwilde> veggieoil, change it to   /usr/bin/gimp 1>> ~/mylog1.txt  2>>~/mylog2.txt
[08:39] <imyousuf> has anyone used ubuntu-xen-server?
[08:39] <hwilde> veggieoil, that way you can capture stdout and stderr and see what the problem is
[08:39] <Disastro> heartsblood: but it works
[08:39] <Disastro> :)
[08:40] <veggieoil> will do.
[08:40] <Eyemean> hwilde, there is so much to delete, is there a way i can tell it to delete all those files automatically?
[08:40] <hwilde> Eyemean, you can use the command  "rm -rf"  to delete entire directories
[08:40] <hwilde> Eyemean, you installed from src so you have to delete the src
[08:41] <heartsblood> Disastro: ok i'll try it out
[08:41] <Disastro> heartsblood: not sure with 3g
[08:41] <Disastro> heartsblood: but someone has got it work
[08:42] <Eyemean> hwilde, also delete .amsn?
[08:42] <loudnlownoma> hwilde: Ok, got that done, and the network manager is gone.  Plugged in Ethernet and connection appears to still be working.  But now I can't get an IP address on the ethernet connection, and it cant seem to access my router or internal network at all.  Do I need to set that up manually now?
[08:42] <Disastro> heartsblood: http://inclusa.blogspot.com/2007/12/sincronitzar-ipod-3g-en-linux.html
[08:42] <hwilde> loudnlownoma, super user;  ifconfig eth0 up;  dhclient eth0
[08:42] <hwilde> Eyemean, if you want to delete it then delete it
[08:43] <veggieoil> hwilde: i enter that into terminal and gimp launches
[08:43] <cabrioleur> jumbers: you can assign shortcut to nautilus-actions. I don't know if it's true for scripts.
[08:43] <core_> Hi again, http://pastebin.ca/839879 This is my xorg.conf, line 18 explans my problem, please have a look. Thanks
[08:43] <Eyemean> hwilde, no im just asking as i want to remove svn amsn, and just install normal version
[08:43] <hwilde> veggieoil, if you look at mylog1.txt you will see the error cannot open display:
[08:43] <hwilde> Eyemean, I dunno sry buddy
[08:43] <heartsblood> disastro: thanks for the research
[08:43] <hwilde> Eyemean, delete it all then apt-get  install amsn
[08:43] <Eyemean> hwilde, lol, k cheers
[08:43] <Disastro> no problem
[08:44] <Buyydee> Hey. I have the NVidia restricted drivers installed and since yesterday (after they've been installed for over two months) my system keeps setting the resolution at startup to 1400x900 instead of 1680x1050. Ubuntu's resolution-tool doesn't change anything. I can change the resolution in nvidia-settings without problems, but after a restart the old one is back, even if i click "save configuration to X config file" as root. Does anyone happen to know
[08:44] <veggieoil> hwilde: no, it is empty.
[08:44] <hwilde> veggieoil, I did it myself that is the error
[08:45] <Eyemean> hwilde, there are files in usr/share, but i cant delete them
[08:45] <hwilde> Buyydee, go to super user,  edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   take out all the resolutions you dont want.
[08:46] <veggieoil> hwilde: ok ...i cut and pasted "/usr/bin/gimp 1>> ~/mylog1.txt 2>>~/mylog2.txt" into terminal.  Gimp launched without error, and two logfiles in home directory are empty
[08:46] <Buyydee> hwilde: ok, i'll try that
[08:46] <veggieoil> hwilde: did you mean i should put that into crontab?
[08:47] <Disastro> where are the debs installed?
[08:47] <Disastro> from alien
[08:47] <Buyydee> hwilde: it should be enough to put a hash in front of the undesired resolutions, right?
[08:47] <hwilde> Disastro, /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:48] <hwilde> Buyydee, backup the file and delete everything you dont want
[08:48] <user3211> hello anybody there?
[08:48] <hwilde> veggieoil, ok try this in crontab it works for me :   * * * * * DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/gimp 1>>mylog1.txt 2>>mylog2.txt
[08:48] <hwilde> veggieoil, problem is it cannot find your Xserver so set the display
[08:48] <Disastro> no, i mean when deb comes t m yhomedirectory, i click it and install
[08:48] <Disastro> where it installs then
[08:49] <hwilde> Disastro, sudo updatedb;  locate <whateveryouwanttolocate>
[08:49] <Disastro> sit it on the same than the regular?
[08:49] <Disastro> ok
[08:49] <veggieoil> hwilde ah, ok.  this sounds reasonable i will try
[08:49] <Disastro> now found it, thanks
[08:49] <hwilde> veggieoil, if you capture the output right mylog1.txt will tell you  cannot open display:     so the display is not set to the crontab
[08:49] <core_> Hello all, http://pastebin.ca/839879 This is my xorg.conf, line 18 explains my problem, please have a look. Thanks
[08:50] <hwilde> core_, put a # at the beginning of that line
[08:51] <veggieoil> hwilde - I love you ...in a non-gay way.  it works now!
[08:52] <hwilde> veggieoil, well then prepare for gimp to launch every minute.
[08:52] <igcek>  hello, im trying to COMPLETELY remove something... and i don't know the right command, with apt is: apt-get remove purge..., what is it like with ipkg?
[08:52] <hwilde> core_, do both of the screens work individually when they are the only one defined in xorg.conf ?
[08:52] <jlulian38> My Mobo is detecting the size of this drive wrong
[08:52] <jlulian38> wtf
[08:52] <jlulian38> :(
[08:53] <Disastro>  sudo updatedb;  locate tkes forever
[08:53] <Disastro> si there any other way to locate deb's install directory?
[08:54] <hwilde> jlulian38, what is the manufacturer already
[08:54] <jlulian38> bah
[08:54] <jlulian38> brb
[08:54] <core_> hwilde, yes they do. But the xorg.conf has changes alot (copy pasteting) since I have seen them work.. The result now is them both working but displaying cloned views. (the same on both screens)
[08:54] <hwilde> jlulian38, if it is not seagate, ibm, maxtor, western digital...   i am going to tell you to go buy a legit harddrive
[08:55] <Disastro> 'sudo updatedb;  locate' taking forever, any other way?
[08:55] <hwilde> core_, make each one work individually then merge them and add the xinerama part
[08:56] <Disastro> now it finished
[08:56] <Disastro> it took really long
[08:56] <core_> hwilde, okay so basicly onplugg and start all over.? man xorg.conf?
[08:56] <jlulian38> it is
[08:56] <jlulian38> I think
[08:56] <jlulian38> but I still can't see the type
[08:56] <jlulian38> pulling it out right now would be stupid
[08:56] <peterretief> childsplay sound stopped working with the latest upgrades - any ideas
[08:56] <hwilde> core_, copy that xorg to two xorgs.  delete one from each.  test those and make them work individualy.  then merge the two good individual configs into one config, slap xinerama on the bottom, and u are good
[08:57] <dissection> Anyone know if Deluge uses the same libtorrent that rtorrent uses?
[08:57] <hwilde> jlulian38, type   lshw -v
[08:57] <jlulian38> booting right now
[08:57] <jlulian38> :(
[08:57] <hwilde> jlulian38, the hd is probably damaged
[08:58] <jlulian38> :(
[08:58] <jlulian38> how so then
[08:58] <hwilde> or maybe you got ripped off
[08:59] <core_> whilde, thank you I will try that.
[08:59] <hwilde> how do u know it is not just a 40G drive
[08:59] <jlulian38> Because I've used it before
[08:59] <jlulian38> this happened recently
[08:59] <core_> hwilde, not sure if the following information helps but: In ubuntu 7.10 "Screens and graphics" only my CRT is showing up.
[08:59] <hwilde> jlulian38, boot into livecd, mount it, run chkdsk
[08:59] <hwilde> jlulian38, or fsck
[08:59] <jlulian38> I tried fsck
[08:59] <jlulian38> did nothing to help me
[09:00] <hwilde> did it report the correct size in the livecd
[09:00] <grep100> jlulian38: have a look at the drive in your bios configuration, is it recognized properly in bios
[09:00] <hwilde> fdisk -l
[09:00] <hwilde> hey star trek is on
[09:00] <jlulian38> It shows up as "Hard drive
[09:00] <jlulian38> and it's 33.8GB there
[09:00] <hwilde> peace out good luck with your broken sh*
[09:00] <jlulian38> lol
[09:00] <hwilde> i'll be back later
[09:00] <jlulian38> k
[09:01] <core_> Bye and thanks whilde
[09:03] <veggieoil> jlulian38: 32GB is a bios limit for some mobos
[09:04] <jlulian38> That's not the problem
[09:04] <jlulian38> Lemme describe what happened today
[09:04] <jlulian38> so you get what's going on
[09:04] <jlulian38> I've had this drive installed in this computer for the last year or so
[09:04] <jlulian38> today I decided to put in a new drive
[09:04] <thedefender> !dvd
[09:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:04] <jlulian38> the first few IDE cable and master/slave combinations didn't work
[09:05] <jlulian38> and when I finally got it to work, it booted and kernel paniced
[09:05] <jlulian38> Apparently the drive had become smaller than it was before
[09:05] <jlulian38> The only thing I can think of is the other drive is tripping it up
[09:05] <scguy318> dunno, set a drive capacity limit jumper?
[09:05] <jlulian38> but that seems kind unlikely
[09:06] <scguy318> while fiddling with master/slave fun?
[09:06] <jlulian38> Does it do that?
[09:06] <jlulian38> Seriously?
[09:06] <scguy318> some hard drives have a drive capacity limit jumper
[09:06] <jlulian38> Oh shit
[09:06] <scguy318> that you can set
[09:06] <jlulian38> OOOOO
[09:06] <jlulian38> Now I have to fiddle with it
[09:06] <jlulian38> in the dark
[09:07] <jlulian38> Thank you for bringing this to my attention though
[09:07] <veggieoil> yeah, i had to set that jumper on a 40GB drive on an old p233 I had
[09:07] <scguy318> np
[09:07] <grep100> I have heard of the drive capacity limit but only in very old systems and drives
[09:07] <veggieoil> limited the drive to 32GB
[09:07] <ahaswell> I have the same on an old IBM 40GB deathstar
[09:08] <grep100> it would make me rather unhappy to have a 1 terrabyte drive report as a 32 gig drive
[09:08] <veggieoil> yeah, but a jumper setting ON THE DRIVE limits the HD. Its there for compatability
[09:10] <grep100> I would be searching the drive manufacturers website for a jumper guide document
[09:11] <FLUxXxX> i've installed flashplugin-nonfree but a website with flash in firefox says  In order to play this video, you must have Flash 8 or higher installed on your computer, and you must enable Javascript.
[09:11] <FLUxXxX> Flash is available for Mac, Windows, and Linux, and can be downloaded free of charge here.
[09:11] <FLUxXxX> what to do?
[09:11] <Paul_UK> hey guys, for those who are using dual-homed boxes (adsl/internal network).  What apps are you using to bandwidth shape certain applications running locally or packets routing through it?  Thanks
[09:12] <jlulian38> THANK YOU SO MUCH
[09:12] <jlulian38> THAT FIXED IT
[09:12] <jlulian38> I LOVE YOU
[09:12] <sfinx> Hello all
[09:12] <jlulian38> IF YOU WANT TO COME TO MY PLACE FOR "DINNER" YOU CAN BY ALL MEANS
[09:12] <grep100> FLUxXxX: try other websites, never trust a website without first testing everything
[09:13] <keram> hey
[09:13] <FLUxXxX> other shows that bar with additional plugins
[09:13] <keram> does anyone know how to get gnome panel applets to appear on the xfce panel in xubuntu?
[09:13] <FLUxXxX> and if i click install, says flashplugin-nonfree already installed and that i should restart ff
[09:14] <FLUxXxX> i do and still that bar
[09:14] <scguy318> !brokenflash | FLUxXxX
[09:14] <ubotu> FLUxXxX: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:14] <FLUxXxX> tar?
[09:14] <FLUxXxX> i got it from synaptic
[09:15] <scguy318> FLUxXxX: the flashplugin-nonfree package downloads the Flash tar from Adobe
[09:15] <sfinx> Can anyone tell me where i can find som drivers for nvidia geforce 5500 card that also works
[09:15] <scguy318> FLUxXxX: because the Flash tarball is NOT free for distribution
[09:15] <grep100> tar stands for tape archive record, its a backup format thats uncompressed
.tar is archived file, <filename>.tar.gzip is compressed archive
[09:16] <FLUxXxX> lol
[09:17] <Menisk> sfinx, you should be able to install them from the Restricted Drivers Manager.
[09:17] <grep100> gzip is often just .gz
[09:18] <musikgoat> as well as .tgz is used for short
[09:19] <snadge> how can one regenerate a default ubuntu xorg.conf?
[09:19] <blitz_x> delete the other one
[09:19] <Menisk> Does any here with a Turion Notice that it gets rather warm compared to normal?
[09:19] <snadge> ie.. if they're customised it, generated their own one.. trashed it completely.. and now just want to go back to how it should be?
[09:19] <Menisk> Mine has gotten warmer since the upgrade to Gutsy.
[09:19] <grep100> Menisk: describe normal?
[09:19] <co_delonge_hoppu> server
[09:20] <sfinx> menisk, i tried that allready but they dont seem to work properly, i just installed ubuntu last night.. normally i was running mandriva.. but a friend of mine surgested ubuntu instead and now every driver i find doesnt work
[09:20] <blitz_x> is your system usage the same?
[09:20] <xs_> rizon.net
[09:20] <Menisk> grep100: I use to average around 45 degrees and now I average around 75. I have a 2200 Vacuum cleaner strapped to the back of it to keep it averaging about 65 right now.
[09:21] <grep100> one system the cpu temp spiked and when I checked the fan had stopped running
[09:21] <pengo__> Hey guys, has anyone seen  a problem with video media playback a tearing/lag/refresh problem where horizontally you get bit of a flicker or tearing?
[09:21] <pengo__> I have an aTI card btw
[09:21] <Drixx> how do i play rmvb files in ubuntu ??
[09:21] <PaulEU> hello! I have question: Has I a right that hdd may die soon? Link: http://rafb.net/p/rHFA5080.html
[09:21] <PaulEU> I don
[09:21] <PaulEU> I don't understand that these values on last column are strange :/'
[09:21] <Menisk> sfinx, not sure then.
[09:22] <musikgoat> anyone ever have random times that network manager doesn't identify a wireless connection.  when I have this, I don't have eth1 available (which the intel 3945abg wireless card usually resides on), and it seems from the syslog says Dec 31 03:09:41 compy386l kernel: [   13.764000] ipw3945: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[09:22] <PaulEU> who anybody can see it?
[09:22] <sfinx> Menisk, ok but thanks anyway... catch you all later...
[09:22] <ahaswell> PaulEU: "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED"
[09:22] <ahaswell> seems good to me
[09:22] <grep100> Menisk: then either the system load has really increased a lot, or your room temp is out of sight, something else is wrong
[09:22] <Drixx> does neone know how to play rmvb files in ubuntu ??
[09:23] <ahaswell> PaulEU: Run a full test
[09:23] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I asked because its a hdd with Windows (ubuntu exists on second hdd) and every start it checks partitions (system was closed normally)
[09:23] <blitz_x> when I upgraded to gutsy, I had mem leaks and full processor usage... but it was a test box, so I wiped it and did a clean install, and it was fine
[09:23] <PaulEU> ahaswell: how can I do a full test?
[09:23] <Menisk> It is the middle of summer, I'm running compiz and VMware with XP in it. But I used to do that at 45 Degrees C and now I have strap a 2200w Vacuum to the back of it feel comfortable using it.
[09:23] <Drixx> is there a real player for linux ??
[09:23] <PaulEU> Drixx: yes
[09:23] <grep100> rmvb = real media variable bitrate
[09:24] <PaulEU> Drixx: helix player on repo
[09:24] <Drixx> PaulEU :: kk ... thnx ..
[09:24] <ahaswell> PaulEU: run smartctl -t long /dev/sda
[09:25] <grep100> some real media players can't handle rmvb, read the documentation for your player before you jump to any ideas that it can play it
[09:25] <Menisk> grep100, I'm temted to forkbomb this and see how hot it can get. Might not be the best idea.
[09:25] <blitz_x> Menisk: you can always turn on the air conditioning if all else fails :P
[09:25] <Menisk> blitz_x, My air con is a window with hotter air outside. Not a smart idea. :P
[09:25] <grep100> Menisk: I would suspect thats a bad idea
[09:25] <Menisk> grep100, Yeah.
[09:25] <Menisk> I'd melt my lappy.
[09:26] <tawooh> probem: trying to install a windows program using wine, but when i try and start the installer, it says that my machine is out of hard drive space.  I know i have about 5gigs available.  Is there any way to get past this problem??
[09:26] <Menisk> tawooh, what program?
[09:26] <blitz_x> oh, its a laptop? thats the issue I would think... running compiz and vmware with another OS is a lot of loqd
[09:26] <blitz_x> load*
[09:27] <grep100> tawooh: its likley to be a common problem with wine users, read the wine faq
[09:27] <tawooh> menisk:  World of Warcraft, got the main client and program to install, but the patches and the BC expansion i am having problems with
[09:27] <PaulEU> ahaswell: thx, I'll try
[09:27] <ahaswell> np
[09:27] <ahaswell> hope it works ;)
[09:27] <Menisk> tawooh, Game on Windows. Only thing it's good for.
[09:28] <Menisk> blitz_x, I used to be able to do it fine.
[09:28] <tawooh> menisk:  hmmm??
[09:28] <Drixx> PaulEU: while reloading it says 'could not download all repos from " ... http://ke.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy ... n many more with the same site ... i think someone deleted my repos ... can u give me the deb ??
[09:28] <PaulEU> ahaswell: how long does it do time?
[09:28] <ahaswell> it should tell you when you run it
[09:28] <grep100> cedega is the wine version specifically designed with games in mind
[09:28] <ahaswell> but it does take a while
[09:28] <ubuntu_> is cedega even worth it now?
[09:28] <grep100> cedega is not a free version of wine
[09:28] <ubuntu_> i thought wine > cedega now
[09:28] <Menisk> blitz_x, I'll dump it in the freezer and VNC to it. xD
[09:28] <PaulEU> Drixx: wait, I have own problems with hdd :/
[09:28] <tawooh> grep100: i tried using cedega, but when i run the installer the machine does nothing
[09:29] <p_e> problem: ubuntu freezes when it tries loading ndiswrapper while booting
[09:29] <ahaswell> PaulEU: once that finishes it might be good to run badblocks
[09:29] <ahaswell> to find out if it's a smart problem or a disk problem
[09:29] <user3211> hello
[09:29] <rencore_> what is the command to bring up the logout menu
[09:29] <grep100> personal experience with either wine or cedega is nil, never used either
[09:29] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I did of course hdd backup
[09:30] <ahaswell> :P
[09:30] <PaulEU> ahaswell: it has take about 3 DVD :/
[09:30] <tawooh> okay thanks guys going to check the forums, i just like a more personal approach when i can get it
[09:30] <blitz_x> tawooh do you have wow on a win partition?
[09:31] <tawooh> do not have a win partition as i do not own a copy of windows
[09:31] <Drixx> my ke.archive repo is missing ... can someone send me the deb .. ?? i'm running feisty ...
[09:31] <blitz_x> try downgrading your wine version... only thing thats changed since I sucessfully installed via wine to gutsy
[09:32] <Jordan_U> tawooh, I would try appdb then #winehq ( and use wine, it's better even for most games than cediga right now at least )
[09:32] <riaal> My ubuntu server has some hardware failure, what can I use to make the system work hard to see what happens?
[09:32] <PaulEU> Drixx: on ubuntuguide.org I saw faq probably (see it)
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !appdb | tawooh
[09:32] <ubotu> tawooh: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:33] <blitz_x> riaal: anything that will full load your system for hours?
[09:33] <Jordan_U> riaal, "work hard" in what way? Use a lpt of CPU? Process many queries?
[09:33] <blitz_x> try converting a dvd or something
[09:33] <user3211> hello? can anybody see me
[09:34] <Jordan_U> user3211, no
[09:34] <blitz_x> riaal: also, what part do you think is failing?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> :)
[09:34] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I did run smartctl -t long - I must wait 5 minut
[09:34] <ahaswell> cool
[09:34] <ahaswell> much quicker than it took me last time
[09:34] <luiz> join #ubuntu-br
[09:34] <luiz> j /#ubuntu-br
[09:35] <PaulEU> ahaswell: where can I find log of this test?
[09:35] <PaulEU> ahaswell: in dmesg?
[09:35] <ahaswell> naw I think it just alters the info when you run smartctl -a
[09:35] <luiz> help join
[09:36] <Jordan_U> luiz, "/join <channel>
[09:36] <luiz> thanks jordan
[09:37] <Jordan_U> luiz, np
[09:38] <p_e> what is the default file manager?
[09:38] <J-a-k-e> hello all
[09:38] <scguy318> pe_: on GNOME Nautilus
[09:38] <scguy318> *p_e: see above
[09:38] <p_e> thanks, I'm used to XFCE
[09:40] <J-a-k-e> is this the place to ask about sound n stuff for ubuntu?
[09:41] <J-a-k-e> or might i have more luck if i posted in the forum
[09:41] <scguy318> sure
[09:41] <tawooh> if a program is in a folder on my desktop how do i get it to run from the terminal??
[09:41] <blitz_x> You can try... though problems are solved faster via forums I believe
[09:41] <tawooh> i have no clue how to navigate this file system
[09:41] <scguy318> tawooh: assuming the app has +x bit set, just cd to the folder and do ./nameofapp
[09:42] <blitz_x> tawooh .. its under /home/(yourusername)/Desktop
[09:42] <ahaswell> J-a-k-e: 90% of problems have already been solved in the forums - they're just a search away
[09:42] <ahaswell> although it's prolly nicer to get a human response here
[09:43] <riaal> blitz_x: yeh, heavy cpu load is what Im looking for
[09:43] <J-a-k-e> ahaswell: yea.. I've tried searching all sorts of places with google .. no luck
[09:43] <riaal> Jordan_U: Cpu
[09:44] <hanuman> hello
[09:44] <hanuman> ok
[09:44] <blitz_x> riaal: convert a movie file to something
[09:44] <blitz_x> riaal: it usually takes 3-5 hours generally, and will keep you at 100%
[09:45] <rafael_> hello
[09:45] <rafael_> last day 2007 ...
[09:45] <ahaswell> J-a-k-e: fire away then
[09:46] <rafael_> has s.o. experience with configuring a kernel?
[09:46] <user3211>  /msg ubotu flash
[09:46] <rafael_> a module  Depends on: MISC_DEVICES && X86 && ACPI && EXPERIMENTAL && !ACPI_ASUS
[09:46] <J-a-k-e> basically im wanting to setup bass redirection to a subwoofer, which is something i've got setup in winxp & being something of an audio nut. lack of bass redirection is about the only thing stopping me from switching to linux
[09:46] <rafael_> but what is X86 for a module?
[09:47] <riaal> blitz_x: what probram can I do that with?
[09:49] <p00rer> I hope i dont kicked because nick change ; 0
[09:49] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I don't understand one thing: there is my status: http://rafb.net/p/qQreNH42.html and I see that I have: SMART support is: Disabled - can I must enable smart (option -s on) ? It may be always on? Because in docs I see info that: Enable SMART on drive /dev/hda, enable automatic offline testing every four hours - is it a secure?
[09:49] <rafael_> its a funny nick
[09:50] <p00rer> I need someone to help me compile a game
[09:50] <abhi_> is there any viewer for CHM files which works stably on GNOME? i tried KCHMvIEw and found it to be buggy. after certain number of links it starts opening pages in new tabs which is so irritating!
[09:50] <ubuntu__> p00rer: whichgame?
[09:50] <p00rer> warzone 2100
[09:51] <J-a-k-e> nothing under the add new programs menue?
[09:51] <scguy318> abhi_: Gnochm
[09:51] <p00rer> the ubuntu's package war2100 has a bug
[09:51] <p00rer> the warzone crashes when loading save game
[09:52] <p00rer> I am using 64-bit ver.
[09:52] <kraut> moin
[09:52] <ThreeWayLadder> I'm kinda bored of Gutsy already :-/  Is anyone running Hardy Heron without major problems?
[09:53] <blitz_x> Im still loving gutsy.. tried running it 2 months before release and it failed me
[09:53] <blitz_x> havent tried hardy as a result :P
[09:53] <ThreeWayLadder> ahh I see
[09:54] <MF_Debian> ThreeWayLadder, yeah its pretty sweet, but your probably better asking #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <ThreeWayLadder> ah okay, ty
[09:54] <p00rer> try to compile warzone ver 2.0.9 from source
[09:55] <feanorek> hi, i need to recover a deleted .html file from my partition, what program is good for that ?
[09:55] <MF_Debian> once its gone, its pretty much gone
[09:55] <tawooh> heres an interesting problem:  every time i try to cd into a folder the terminal says it doesn't exist...
[09:56] <feanorek> It cant be gone, i need this file ;(
[09:56] <blitz_x> use TAB to help you find things that DO exist :)
[09:56] <J-a-k-e> have you got the name entered properly the terminal is case sensitive btw
[09:56] <MF_Debian> feanorek, its possible to recover files deleted in *nix, but its a royal pain
[09:56] <blitz_x> also, make sure you are case sensitive
[09:57] <J-a-k-e> no utilities to undel or anything?
[09:57] <tawooh> woulda helped if someone had ever told me that...
[09:57] <KenSentMe> How can i reset my sound settings? I fiddled with them and now things dont work like they should be
[09:57] <feanorek> MF_Debian i've heard about a program like phorec or something :O does it even exist?
[09:57] <blitz_x> get it working riaal?
[09:58] <riaal> where can I download ubntu 7.04?
[09:58] <Drixx> PaulEU: thnx dude ...
[09:58] <riaal> blitz_x: not yet, running memtest right now
[09:58] <MF_Debian> feanorek, never heard of that, like i said its not impossible, but its a real hassle
[09:58] <tawooh> okay so whn i type "dir" it says "matthew", yet i cannot cd into this folder...
[09:58] <p00rer> KenSentMe: what did you do?
[09:58] <feanorek> MF_Debian ok so im fuckd ;C
[09:59] <KenSentMe> p00rer, i dont know anymore, some time ago.
[09:59] <riaal> tawooh: dir? :S
[09:59] <MF_Debian> tawooh, type ; file <dirname> and see what it says'
[09:59] <tawooh> riaal: tried using what dos code  i knew and that brings up the directory of the current folder
[10:00] <J-a-k-e> jus cd  mat(tab to fill in the rest)
[10:00] <tawooh> why does linux have to be so difficult... grrr
[10:00] <blitz_x> tawooh TAB is your friend
[10:00] <riaal> I need the ubuntu 7.04 live cd iso, anyone?
[10:01] <blitz_x> made by programmers, for programmers.
[10:01] <tawooh> tab brought up the never ending list of things i have no idea what they are...
[10:01] <blitz_x> you have to start typing, tab will autocomplete
[10:01] <riaal> tawooh: try them out, I sugest you start with rm ;)
[10:02] <PaulEU> riaal: you can download from ubuntu.com
[10:02] <tawooh> so what exactly am i using tab for, i just want to get in my desktop folder in the terminal
[10:02] <riaal> PaulEU: you have an url? ben looking around for ages
[10:02] <riaal> tawooh: thats default
[10:02] <LetsGo67> Hey peoples.
[10:03] <riaal> tawooh: "pwd" will tell you where you are
[10:03] <blitz_x> tawooh, close the terminal, and ropen it from the menu... than just type "cd m" and at that point hgit TAB
[10:03] <blitz_x> IF your username isnt capitalized
[10:03] <riaal> tawooh: use cd .. to go back, cd <name> to step into and ls to list
[10:03] <PaulEU> riaal: see: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[10:03] <p00rer> KenSentMe: open terminal window and use alsamixer
[10:04] <KenSentMe> p00rer, and then?
[10:04] <riaal> tawooh: you can use type : cd ~   if you want your root folder
[10:04] <PaulEU> riaal: select your mirror next you should see 7.04
[10:04] <nenolod> disasm, ltns
[10:04] <tawooh> blitz: when i hit tab there i just hear a beep...
[10:04] <p00rer> make sure the speaker is not mute
[10:04] <th0r> riaal cd ~ will get you your home folder...not root <smile>
[10:05] <PaulEU> riaal: for example: http://ubuntu.gds.tuwien.ac.at/cdimage/releases/feisty/
[10:05] <LetsGo67> tawooh: When I press Ctrl+Shift+Alt+Tab+1, I get beeps too.
[10:05] <riaal> th0r: lol, your root folder
[10:05] <blitz_x> there you go, listen to thor
[10:05] <riaal> not the root folder
[10:05] <J-a-k-e> has anyone had a look at the new ubuntu book?, just wondering if it's worth reading to get an understanding of ubuntu and such
[10:05] <th0r> riaal there are already two 'root' folders...don't add a third
[10:06] <blitz_x> perfect... use "cd ~" .. then "cd Desktop"
[10:06] <tawooh> i give up... anyone know where i can get a free copy of windows 2000??
[10:06] <LetsGo67> J-a-k-e, 555 golden pages of goodies.  Gotta get yours today.  ;)
[10:07] <riaal> tawooh: well, can't blame you for not giving it your best shoot, lol!
[10:07] <blitz_x> tawooh, if what I just ttyped didnt work, you arent using ubuntu or something
[10:07] <tawooh> i have been trying to work within this system for 6 months and all i know how to do is download porn...
[10:07] <LetsGo67> Tawooh: Beg Bill Gates to give you one.
[10:07] <LetsGo67> Yo Agent!
[10:08] <p00rer> tawooh: lolol
[10:08] <KenSentMe> p00rer, one problem is that i cant adjust the sound level with the function keys on my laptop anymore. It used to work, but now i see some sound level changes, but that doesnt affect the sound level of my speakers
[10:08] <LetsGo67> Tawooh, that's disgusting!
[10:08] <riaal> PaulEU: cheers for the url
[10:08] <LetsGo67> Tawooh, reactos.org may help.
[10:09] <blitz_x> Tawooh personally I think if you've really given it 6 months of real effort and you cant get into your own desktop, you should go get vista
[10:09] <PaulEU> riaal: :)
[10:09] <LetsGo67> bilitz_X: vista is a nightmare.
[10:09] <blitz_x> I know.
[10:09] <tawooh> okay, i got somewhere but it just takes me back to problems with wine, how do i uninstall??
[10:09] <p00rer> KenSent: what sound card installed?
[10:09] <blitz_x> uninstall what>?
[10:09] <LetsGo67> tawooh: sudo apt-get remove wine
[10:10] <LetsGo67> tawooh: back up your important files at least weekly.
[10:10] <cyphase> http://xkcd.com/364/
[10:10] <LetsGo67> tawooh: you can use a ReactOS Live CD.
[10:10] <agent> advcdx
[10:11] <tawooh> i wouldn't use vista if bill gates gave me the best computer in the world to use it on...
[10:11] <KenSentMe> p00rer, onboard HDA Intel with realtek chipset
[10:11] <agent> YS
[10:11] <LetsGo67> tawooh: what do you think of reactos?
[10:11] <J-a-k-e> anyone know how to setup bass redirection to the LFE channel?
[10:11] <tawooh> sorry, havent gone yet...
[10:11] <p00rer> I have that too!
[10:11] <grep100> dual boot, do windows apps in windows and linux apps in linux, you can try vmware and install it on a host linux system and then run an image of windows2000 or windowsXP
[10:12] <LetsGo67> grep100: no me gusta windows.
[10:13] <KenSentMe> p00rer, because recording from line in didnt work like it should i changed the sound settings a while back. Now i want to get back to default, but the usual deletion of a file/folder in home doesnt seem to work, because i cant find anything alsa in ~/
[10:13] <LetsGo67> !kick
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <LetsGo67> !myself
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <tawooh> !porn
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <kane77> !abuse | tawooh
[10:13] <ubotu> tawooh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:14] <KenSentMe> !botabuse
[10:14] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:14] <LetsGo67> Tawooh, you didn't give your two cents about ReactOS.
[10:14] <kane77> KenSentMe, right it was this one :)
[10:15] <LetsGo67> Okay, guys, here's how I look at it: Ubuntu has Firefox, OpenOffice.org, VLC, RealPlayer... why use Windows?  For video editing, use a VCR!
[10:15] <LetsGo67> KenSentMe: Who's Ken?  Your husband?
[10:15] <PaulEU> LetsGo67: what's a VCR ?
[10:15] <NewUbuntuFan> agreed, I permanently ditched Windows last week
[10:15] <LetsGo67> PaulEU: Video Cassette Recorder.  Or, for some people, Really Cute Rear.
[10:15] <agent> dfsf
[10:16] <LetsGo67> "Very" instead or "Really"
[10:16] <LetsGo67> Agent: what's dfsf?
[10:16] <PaulEU> lol
[10:16] <agent> wer
[10:16] <LetsGo67> BEER
[10:16] <PaulEU> LetsGo67: do you use VCR device? :D
[10:16] <blitz_x> dfsf .. its the new thing
[10:16] <uwo> hi all - after i made changes to xorg.cong must i log out/in to apply the chaanges?
[10:17] <jmd1> Is killing the gnome panel the best way to restart it?
[10:17] <LetsGo67> PaulEU: Video Cassette Recorder?  Yes.
[10:17] <uwo> is there any way to apply withoug reloading
[10:17] <blitz_x> uwo: ctrl +alt + backspace
[10:17] <LetsGo67> PaulEU: You can get it at thrift store for less than ten bucks.
[10:17] <Sonja> i got mine at a yard sale for $10 yup hehe
[10:17] <Sonja> and you can buy movies so cheap
[10:17] <Sonja> because everybody migrated to dvd
[10:17] <LetsGo67> Sonja, does it work very well?
[10:17] <tawooh> when they say reactos is alpha, how buggy is it??
[10:17] <Sonja> i have the whole james bond collection on vhs
[10:18] <jmd1> uwo: if you want changes on the fly, I'd just use the gui
[10:18] <LetsGo67> Tawooh: try the LiveCD.  Beryl used to be alpha, afaik.
[10:18] <Sonja> does my vhs work wel yup, never tried connecting it to ubuntu though
[10:18] <PaulEU> LetsGo67: but quality is poor
[10:18] <jmd1> uwo: otherwise, ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x
[10:18] <tadah> Hello, I've got a notification "1 update available", which offers to upgrade ipod-convencience 0.3.0 to 0.3.0 and if I do update it, it offers that again and again... like a closed cycle. WTF?
[10:18] <LetsGo67> PaulEU: buy a HD-VCR or Blu-Tape.
[10:18] <LetsGo67> tadah: switch to Vorbis player.
[10:19] <tadah> LetsGo67: what are you talkin about?
[10:19] <blitz_x> tadah: i noticed I didnt need that package to get into my iphone anymore... remove it if you dont need it
[10:19] <^root^> Hi! is there any good torrent client on linux, which allow me to  download only a selected file in a torrent, not all.
[10:19] <blitz_x> Ktorrenty
[10:19] <blitz_x> oops Ktorrent
[10:20] <ahaswell> PaulEU: I would just attempt to enable smart first - worry about automatic testing later me thinks
[10:20] <LetsGo67> TORRENTS ARE ILLEGAL!
[10:20] <LetsGo67> Just kidding.
[10:20] <tadah> blitz_x: what tutorial or sth did you use? because i still haven't managed to get into mine..:/
[10:20] <PaulEU> LetsGo67: I didn't hear about HD-VCR (did you mean a HD-DVD?)
[10:20] <blitz_x> tadah: how far along are you?
[10:20] <rafael_> hello can s.o. help me and tell me how i know which modules i have to activate for activatiting a module in the kernel
[10:21] <LetsGo67> PaulEU: You're late!
[10:21] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I must first enable smart ?
[10:21] <PaulEU> and next test run?
[10:21] <rafael_>  Symbol: ASUS_LAPTOP [=n]                                                │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │ Prompt: Asus Laptop Extras (EXPERIMENTAL)                               │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │   Defined at drivers/misc/Kconfig:95                                    │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │   Depends on: MISC_DEVICES && X86 && ACPI && EXPERIMENTAL && !ACPI_ASUS │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │   Location:                                                             │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │     -> Device Drivers                                                   │
[10:21] <rafael_>   │       -> Misc devices (MISC_DEVICES [=y])
[10:21] <PaulEU> LetsGo67: why?
[10:21] <ICQnumber> ^root^: ktorrent
[10:21] <rafael_> s.o. know what i have to choose?
[10:21] <Flannel> !paste | rafael_
[10:21] <ubotu> rafael_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <^root^> ICQnumber, does it selective download?
[10:21] <rafael_> sorry guys
[10:21] <rafael_> didn't know that
[10:21] <ahaswell> PaulEU: smartctl -s enable /dev/sda should do it
[10:22] <ahaswell> then try printing all info
[10:22] <jmd1> rafael_ don't worry; the bot's there to let you know :-)
[10:22] <ahaswell> wait
[10:22] <ICQnumber> ^root^: yes
[10:22] <ahaswell> smartctl -s on /dev/sda
[10:22] <tawooh> wow, i would love to try reactos, but i don't have a cd burner...
[10:22] <rafael_> can s.o. help me plz
[10:22] <LetsGo67> UBUNTU XMAS SALE!
[10:23] <LetsGo67> xmas.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I have question: it must be always _on_? I ask because in man there is info that it tests every 4 hour
[10:23] <wems> i installed NXSERVER on my ubuntu computer, and I am trying to connect to it using nx client for windows... but its saying the connection was denied... anyone know what the problem could be?
[10:23] <jmd1> rafael_: can you be more specific? What are you trying to do? When do you see that message?
[10:24] <ahaswell> PaulEU: no that's something else its referencing (--offlineauto=on)
[10:24] <rafael_> i am in make menuconfig, i press / then ASUS_LAPTOP
[10:25] <rafael_> but when i go to device -> misc there isn't this module to choose
[10:25] <rafael_> and i don't know which modules i have do choose for beeing able to choose this one
[10:25] <rafael_> *at first
[10:25] <tadah> blitz_x: i tried using this one ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone ). well it's an ipod touch, not iphone, but it's similar i guess. well i've jailbroken it, did like everything, but probably something wrong. i think i can see it in /media/ipod however when usb-attached i get the "import photos" popup and in amarok when trying to connect it sais, that no ipod found..
[10:26] <rafael_> kernel is 2.6.23.12
[10:26] <NewUbuntuFan> just out of curiousity....does youtube cause FF to crash (often) for anyone else here?
[10:26] <rafael_> whats your flash plugin @newubuntufan
[10:26] <rafael_> normally not
[10:27] <blitz_x> tadah: I havent gotten to the stage where it synchs under linux, I still use itunes to add videos and mp3s 9AFTER CIONVERSION IF NEEDED) WITH ITUNES
[10:27] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I want reinstall smartmontools, because when I do: /etc/init.d/smartmontools start nothing happen. I uninstall: sudo apt-get remove --purge smartmontools and I think that not OK. After uninstallation I checks command: sudo dpkg -l smartmontools it return me: pn  smartmontools  - why?
[10:27] <NewUbuntuFan> I dunno...whichever one it linked me to on the official FF website
[10:27] <blitz_x> tadah: can you connect to it via SSH?
[10:28] <tadah> blitz_x: itunes in windows, right? :/ well i don't have windows anymore... yeah, i can connect to it via ssh
[10:28] <jmd1> rafael_: Well, I don't know about those particular kernel modules. Just out of curiosity, why are you building your own kernel?
[10:28] <ahaswell> PaulEU: what options did you have in /etc/default/smartmontools?
[10:28] <rafael_> for real i don't use ubuntu but debian
[10:29] <pepe_> HOLA
[10:29] <blitz_x> tadah: best suggestion I got is something I havent tried yet, and thats to use VMware.. far as I know iTunes is a no-go with windows compatability layers for the cradle normally
[10:29] <rafael_> yes because in the 2.6.23 there is better wlan and suspend to ram support for my laptop
[10:29] <blitz_x> I use a mem-stick now to boot windows if needed for stuffs like that :P
[10:30] <tadah> blitz_x: what is VMware?
[10:30] <rafael_> and the ready to use kernel from ubuntu is full of things i dont need
[10:30] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I'll show (wait)
[10:30] <rafael_> and no framebuffer in the ttys
[10:30] <blitz_x> tadah: VMware is a virtual machine.. allows you to install an OS that runs as a program
[10:30] <PaulEU> ahaswell: http://rafb.net/p/1LLeyD83.html
[10:31] <p00rer> kenSentMe:  ummm I dont make direct text changes alsa config file.
[10:31] <ahaswell> PaulEU: uncomment all three lines if you want to run the smartmontools daemon
[10:31] <rafael_> jmd1 when u search for a module you find it with /
[10:31] <ahaswell> otherwise it won't work :P
[10:31] <rafael_> but this one is not there where it should be
[10:32] <PaulEU> ahaswell: ok, I uncomment
[10:32] <tadah> blitz_x: oh i see. so you're suggesting to install like windows and then itunes..  ok, thanks man
[10:32] <KenSentMe> p00rer, i got it sorted out for a bit, now function key controls are back because i chose the realtek device as default. I find it a bit confusing that there are 2 devices to choose from, the HDA Intel and the Realtek
[10:32] <hey-hey> could someone give me a hand pls
[10:33] <blitz_x> tadah: its the only way it will work for sure that I know.. I been trying to get it to reg with gtkpod
[10:33] <chatf> hi
[10:34] <jmd1> hey-hey: of course
[10:34] <jmd1> !ask
[10:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:34] <PaulEU> ahaswell: question: in comments there is a info that: "if Not needed (and not recommended) if the device is monitored by smartd" I understand that I shouldn't enable option smart_smartd=yes ?
[10:34] <hey-hey> jmd1: do you mind pms?
[10:35] <KenSentMe> I have some special driver for my webcam which is not supported by the kernel yet. I have to do modprobe and insmod if i want to use it. Is it possible to enable the webcam at startup?
[10:35] <libqt4> DCHP errors whenever i try to connect to anywireless network that isnt encrypted any ideas
[10:35] <Drixx> PaulEU: i've installed helix player .. but it does'nt play real media files ... so i tried istalling real player .. but it says that theres a conflict with the helix player .. can't install real playe ...
[10:35] <jmd1> hey-hey: it's better to ask here. I'm only 1 genius; there are 1085 others here
[10:36] <hey-hey> lol
[10:36] <libqt4> KenSentMe: i can only give you half the answer, yes its possible but i forget how to do it =p just google, "ubuntu modprobe on startup"
[10:36] <chatf> Do it exist an italian speaching channel for Ubuntu & C?
[10:36] <hey-hey> jmd1: my install seems to think my harddrive is scsi but its not and then wont partition it
[10:36] <PaulEU> Drixx: maybe this player can't play this file? :| I can't help anymore
[10:37]  * hey-hey np: The Bucketheads - The Bomb [04:40m/256Kbps/48KHz]
[10:37] <KenSentMe> libqt4, i think i found something, thanks
[10:37] <blitz_x> hey-hey burn a knoppix disk and use gparted from the live cd
[10:37] <libqt4> KenSentMe: if that doesn't work just ask here again somebody will eventually come on that knows
[10:38] <grep100> hey-hey: linux now treats all drives as scsi drives even if they aren't
[10:38] <jmd1> hey-hey - do you have any partitions on the drive?
[10:38]  * syc_ mohon pamid
[10:39]  * syc_ *happy nu year, 2008: Get Up.. Stand up, Fight for our Dreams
[10:39] <hey-hey> problem: i have 2 machines 1-1800+/512 2-celeron700/128 ubuntu installs on machine 1 but wont run on 2 but installs on 2 untill the drive partitioning
[10:39]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:39] <blitz_x> its 2007.
[10:39] <hey-hey> i currently have 1 ext3 and swap
[10:40] <ahaswell> PaulEU: perhaps....I guess you don't want to test it /all/ the time
[10:40] <pengo__> Heya, what do I specify in XORG.CONF to turn VSYNC ON for ATI?
[10:41] <PaulEU> ahaswell: maybe.. because doing often tests may hdd quickly die
[10:41]  * hey-hey np: David Morales & The Bad Yard Club - In De Ghetto [03:48m/256Kbps/48KHz]
[10:41] <ahaswell> well unlikely - but it might run into trouble with smart
[10:41] <jmd1> hey-hey: do you have any problems with the first machine?
[10:42] <Sopor> Hi there.
[10:42] <hey-hey> jmd1: a few drivers probs but no show stoppers
[10:43] <jmd1> okay, so you're really only interested in this second machine?
[10:43] <hey-hey> yeah
[10:43] <jmd1> what exactly happens?
[10:44] <hey-hey> when it boots it gets to the 'starting up' and hangs
[10:44] <hey-hey> thats with the install from the other machine
[10:44] <PaulEU> ahaswell: I did start service, but not full good. See: http://rafb.net/p/TLJwAu82.html
[10:44] <Marx> mornin
[10:44] <Sopor> I've got a little problem. I lost my network icon. On my dekstop bar. So I nomore can select a wifi point or seeing the reception level. : / I search who to add it. But it is'nt in the add>Applications. : /
[10:45] <Sopor> how*
[10:45] <hey-hey> if i try to install it from the 2nd machine it gets to the install button and then throws up an error about not being able to partition the drive
[10:45]  * hey-hey np: De' Lacy - Hideaway [04:41m/256Kbps/48KHz]
[10:45] <Myrtti> hey-hey: turn that np-script off
[10:45] <Gary> hey-hey, can you turn off the now playing script in this channel please
[10:46] <ahaswell> omgz I want that script :P
[10:46] <Myrtti> no you don't
[10:46] <hey-hey> sorry
[10:46] <ahaswell> hence the face
[10:46] <Myrtti> /me hates /me's
[10:46]  * Marx farts
[10:46] <jmd1> hey-hey: this is a really crowded channel (more than a 1000 people)
[10:47] <jmd1> hey-hey: but don't worry about it
[10:47] <hey-hey> its not my machine atm .
[10:47] <willenberg> does anyone know in which repo I can get gimpshop?
[10:48] <jmd1> hey-hey: It's cool with me. so back to your problem: what's this about installing from one machine and then another?
[10:48] <jmd1> willenberg: I don't think gimpshop is in a supported repository.
[10:48] <Marx> anyone know if ubuntu is able to duel boot with xp - and if so, how might I go about it?
[10:48] <PaulEU> ahaswell: is it possible that there are problems with hdds?
[10:48] <willenberg> jmd1: do you think I can download the debian packages?
[10:48] <blitz_x> hey-hey: try and use gparted before the install to set up the drive
[10:48] <hey-hey> i can install to drive 2 on sys 1 but it hangs on boot when the drive is put back into sys2
[10:49] <PaulEU> Marx: yes, ubuntu is able to dual boot
[10:49] <hey-hey> so i tried installing on sys2 but it wont partition the drives
[10:49] <Marx> uhm
[10:49] <hey-hey> im re-install atm so i can tell you the exact error
[10:49] <Marx> sorry, getting used to this new client (am a windows user, just getting into linux)
[10:49] <willenberg> Marx: just follow the installer, it should give you the option
[10:50] <FLUxXxX> What options to use with NMAP to discover online hosts on my LAN? Please, i beg you, don't make me read the man nmap page because that's what i did for the last half hour and didn't understand
[10:50] <jmd1> willenberg: probably. You might have better luck with an unofficial repo. Google for it
[10:50] <hey-hey> same here marx
[10:50] <willenberg> jmd1: ok, I'll try
[10:50] <Marx> the installer i had didn't offer it
[10:50] <jmd1> willenberg: I'm mostly just guessing here :-)
[10:50] <Marx> it just offered to use my entire drive lol
[10:50] <willenberg> Marx: live cd?
[10:51] <Marx> yep
[10:51] <blitz_x> Marx: you will need a linux partition (ext2 or ext3) and a linux-swap partition.  Create those and go
[10:51] <ahaswell> PaulEU: perhaps
[10:51] <libqt4> DCHP errors whenever i try to connect to anywireless network that isnt encrypted any ideas?
[10:51] <ahaswell> can you run badblocks on that drive?
[10:51] <Dynalon> hi, i run lvm2 ontop of raid1, now my computer periodically does a hdd I/O about every 2 secs, even if i shut down nearly all processes. Its making the sysm quite noisy, anyone an idea what causes this?
[10:52] <willenberg> Dynalon: could be a defect cable
[10:52] <willenberg> Dynalon: or your controller
[10:52] <jmd1> hey-hey: Swapping the harddrives around like that is "considered harmful"
[10:52] <Marx> ok, so if i have a drive with only xp on it... i could use xp to parttion and then when adding two new partitions  (ext2/3 and swap) then just install?
[10:53] <Dynalon> willenberg: i doubt that, its SATA onboard, hw ist new, and i did a test run of the raid1 failsafe an reconstructed the content to a hdd
[10:53] <Marx> i have used suse previously (just experimenting) and it used LILO to do it all for me.. was much easier lol
[10:53] <Dynalon> all without failures
[10:53] <hgraey> hi #ubuntu
[10:53] <willenberg> Marx: yes, make 2 new partitions and then you can format them correctly with your ubuntu installer
[10:53] <Marx> excellent, wilenberg
[10:53] <larson9999> raid, i'm gonna have to that next
[10:53] <astro76> Marx, or just resize xp's partition, you can then have the installer install into free space, creating / and swap itself
[10:54] <Dynalon> i also see the hdd access within the system monitor, so the kernel is aware of this access
[10:54] <blitz_x> Marx: my best suggestion is to safely partition first, use partitionmagic if you have it, or knoppix/ ubuntu "gparted"
[10:54] <blitz_x> partitionmagic has an option to set up for linux
[10:54] <jmd1> Marx: I believe the newest installer will do the resizing for you. Can anyone confirm that?
[10:54] <Marx> thanks astro76 & blitz_x
[10:54] <astro76> jmd1, Marx, very true
[10:54] <scguy318> blitz_x: PartMagic is rubbish :P
[10:55] <Marx> much appreciated - just i like to retain xp for nostalgia (iow, i know what im doing lol)
[10:55] <Marx> i use partition magic - i like it :)
[10:55] <PaulEU> ahaswell: can you comment about this log of my second hdd? http://rafb.net/p/cnWFus78.html
[10:55] <scguy318> Marx: until it trashes your partition table :P
[10:55] <scguy318> Marx: it barely handles ext parts too
[10:55] <blitz_x> scguy318 for a complete newbie to linux, its helpful in some cases, especially when setting up "m y fiirst dual boot"
[10:55] <Marx> ahh well, i've not had the pleasure just yet ;) lol
[10:55] <scguy318> blitz_x: a GPartEd livecd does the job equally well imho
[10:56] <FLUxXxX> What options to use with NMAP to discover online hosts on my LAN? Please, i beg you, don't make me read the man nmap page because that's what i did for the last half hour and didn't understand
[10:56] <blitz_x> scguy: youll see I suggested that first :P
[10:56] <Arthur> What would be a good client to download torrents? o.O
[10:56] <hgraey> first of: i like ubuntu a lot already for its desktop integration, but xen in gutsy drove me crazy with random kernel oops. so i just installed the hardy alpha to try that out. all the administrative tools seem to have no effect, i guess that has to do with the change to policy kit? how do i get it to work?
[10:56] <scguy318> Arthur: KTorrent, uTorrent (on Wine), rtorrent, etc?
[10:56] <scguy318> !torrent | Arthur
[10:56] <ubotu> Arthur: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[10:56] <Marx> well i just downloaded the 'live' cd from ubunto.com and didn't spot any options 0-- but i'll investigae further
[10:56] <Marx> bbl guys - got dr app. to keep
[10:57] <Marx> and thanks for help thus far :D
[10:58] <Arthur> scguy318 I believe that Ubuntu 7.10 is Gnome, so would KTorrent (KDE) work?
[10:58] <ahaswell> PaulEU: Looks good to me
[10:58] <ahaswell> it's been powered on for nearly 2 years now
[10:58] <ahaswell> 15,965hrs
[10:58] <hgraey> Arthur: it should as it will install its dependencies. it will just take long to load because of all the kde libs, and of course take a lot more memory than a gnome program
[10:59] <PaulEU> ahaswell: it's long :/
[10:59] <bazhang> Arthur: no worries, and well worth it
[10:59] <jmd1> Arthur: Also, the icons will look like kde icons instead of gnome
[10:59] <Buyydee> hwilde: thanks for the X11 tip an hour ago, works fine now
[10:59] <jmd1> Arthur: but on newish hardware the performance hit doesn't really matter. At all.
[11:01] <bazhang> hgraey: the hardy install? that would best be discussed in #ubuntu+1
[11:02] <hgraey> ok, thanks
[11:02] <bazhang> no worries
[11:02] <blitz_x> heres a question for those in the know... Ive been trying to take a decent screencast of my desktop, which runs at a sick framerate even with compiz water effects and such enabled...
[11:02] <hey-hey> jmd1: 'the ext3 file system creation in partition 1 of scsi1 (sda) failed'
[11:02] <PaulEU> ahaswell: thx for comments, but I don't understand why start of service has status [fail] ?
[11:03] <blitz_x> though every program ive tried seems to destroy my framerate for the video.  It could be my ATI hardwar
[11:03] <marybuntu> i forgot how to do this.  i downloaded Rainlendar, a calendar app, yesterday, and i want to pin to start menu, but i've forgotten how to find the file path for the command in the startup window...
[11:03] <ahaswell> PaulEU: it's perfectly normal to see at least one failure in the smart log
[11:03] <jmd1> marybuntu: whereis <command>
[11:03] <ahaswell> your disk is unlikely to fail - I've seens loads of those errors
[11:04] <astro76> blitz_x, I wouldn't expect to be able to screen capture at anywhere close to your full frame rate
[11:04] <marybuntu> jmd1, so just 'whereis rainlendar' in the terminal?
[11:05] <pwuertz> hi, is there a repository with up-to-date nvidia drivers?
[11:05] <astro76> blitz_x, you now want to dump each frame to your really slow disk, how could it possibly keep up
[11:05] <blitz_x> astro76: i get like 230-300 FPS outside of recording, and I only want 30-35 fps for the vid
[11:05] <bazhang> pwuertz: graphics problem?
[11:05] <hey-hey> whats the difference in ext2 and ext3?
[11:06] <marybuntu> jmd1, that din't work for me; what am i missing?
[11:06] <Myrtti> the other one is older and less feature-rich than the other
[11:06] <hgraey> blitz_x: at what resolution?
[11:06] <Bob_Dole> I'm using ResierFS :3
[11:07] <blitz_x> hgraey: 1680x1250
[11:07] <pwuertz> bazhang: yes, i experience slow scrolling in qt applications, and using the rubberband-selection tool in nautilus drops the frame-rate way below 1fps
[11:07] <bazhang> pwuertz: how did you install the driver and from where
[11:07] <marybuntu> i forgot how to do this.  i downloaded Rainlendar, a calendar app, yesterday, and i want to pin to start menu, but i've forgotten how to find the file path for the command in the startup window...
[11:07] <astro76> hey-hey, ext3 adds journaling
[11:07] <hgraey> heh, good luck :p that's a hell of an encoding job on its own already
[11:07] <hey-hey> jmd1: 'the ext3 file system creation in partition 1 of scsi1 (sda) failed'
[11:08] <astro76> blitz_x, that's still quite fast especially at full resolution
[11:08] <pwuertz> bazhang: I'm using the nvidia driver from ubuntu gutsy
[11:08] <bazhang> pwuertz: what card?
[11:08] <pwuertz> bazhang: nvidia 8800
[11:08] <hgraey> blitz_x: consider dumping a frame sequence of pngs for your output, then later encoding to the video, or capturing at half or quarter res
[11:08] <blitz_x> ok well lets say i get an Nvidia graphics card, and drop like 3-4 hundred bucks on it... will i gte my video at my resolution?
[11:09] <astro76> blitz_x, it has nothing to do with the video card
[11:09] <hgraey> it's not the video card, but the cpu that does the encoding
[11:09] <blitz_x> ah ok
[11:09] <blitz_x> so its the processor that gets choppy in record, and not the gpu?
[11:09] <pwuertz> bazhang: just read the release highlights for the new driver (20.12.07)... there have been some improvements and fixes for the problems I'm experiencing
[11:09] <jmd1> marybuntu: you just want to know the complete path to a binary right? that's just whereis -b foo
[11:10] <Bob_Dole> Ksensors on Fedora 8 shows all my hardware stats... X sensors.. shows nothing? am I missing something here?
[11:10] <darthtealc> Sorry to interrupt, but could someone tell me what channel I should be using to solve a connection problem with the Update Manager in Ubuntu 7.10?
[11:10] <hgraey> blitz_x: either cpu or your disk, depends what format you're encoding to
[11:10] <astro76> blitz_x, the gpu has no problem generating the frames, as you have mentioned.... but now you have to encode each frame (cpu) and write to disk
[11:10] <pwuertz> bazhang: so I'm asking myself... I's there a convenient way for ubuntu users to select an up-to-date video driver or do I have to manually install the nvidia driver without using the apt system
[11:11] <jmd1> hey-hey I've got no obvious ideas and I have to go sleep. Sorry, but I'm sure someone here can help you
[11:11] <hey-hey> ty
[11:12] <blitz_x> ah ok, that makes sense..  so I either gotta throw together a liquid nitrogen cooled 5.5 ghz dual core system, or just lower my resolution :P
[11:12] <darthtealc> Could someone tell me what channel I should be using to solve a connection problem with the Update Manager in Ubuntu 7.10?
[11:12] <bazhang> pwuertz: there is that issue; I can google around a bit--I've got the much slower 7300 with no worries but I suspect the newer 8800 might benefit from the second method--back in a moment
[11:12] <astro76> darthtealc, you are in it
[11:13] <darthtealc> Ah, good.
[11:13] <blitz_x> whats the problem darth?
[11:13] <gkasinath> Hello all and wish you a very happy new year!
[11:14] <pawan> hi
[11:14] <darthtealc> Okay, so when I try to update, it lists about 170 updates, and then when I try to get it to download and install the updates, it doesn't work.
[11:14] <darthtealc> The updates do not download at all.
[11:14] <gkasinath> Can anyone help me with ATI X300 + dual head + compiz on Gutsy?
[11:14] <blitz_x> i take it you just installed?
[11:14] <darthtealc> Yep.
[11:14] <darthtealc> Do I have to change the place it gets the updates from?
[11:15] <Eds> darth,  where did you get the ISO from?
[11:15] <blitz_x> as far as Ive seen, its always just worked on that part... did you upgrade or install from scratch?
[11:15] <darthtealc> Bigpond - An Australian ISP
[11:15] <darthtealc> from scratch
[11:15] <blitz_x> thru ubuntu.com?
[11:15] <hey-hey> should your swap partition be primary or logical?
[11:16] <Eds> Im from australia :) I was thinking maybe you got it from internode, they had a corrupt image
[11:16] <Eds> but they have fixed it now
[11:16] <arm9_linux> who can tell me why the time in vmware is so faster than host OS?
[11:16] <arm9_linux> there is a xp os in vmware
[11:16] <arm9_linux> my host os is ubuntu 7.10
[11:17] <arm9_linux> version of wmware is 5.5
[11:17] <darthtealc> No, I didn't get it through ubuntu.com, as my ISP had it on their servers and downloading from them doesn't go towards my quota.
[11:17] <arm9_linux> but the time in xp is too fast!
[11:17] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609608 pwuertz there is a thread here discussing your card and some possible workarounds
[11:17] <blitz_x> I dont know what a quota is, but if that means you have a limited amount of data transfer via your IP, you need to move.
[11:17] <Eds> Well, the iso should be okay, bigpond files is run by the guys who run ausgamers and they do a great job
[11:18] <Eds> I know Iv had Kubuntu screw up exactly like that before, I reinstalled and it was peachy
[11:18] <astro76> blitz_x, you want everyone to leave Australia? :p
[11:18] <darthtealc> That is what it is, but thats standard in Australia
[11:18] <pwuertz> bazhang: wow thanks!
[11:18] <pwuertz> bazhang: need to train my googling skills
[11:18] <arm9_linux> can anyone help me?
[11:18] <blitz_x> astro76: you all have a quota? i never even heard of that
[11:19] <astro76> blitz_x, no I'm in the US, but they do
[11:19] <gkasinath> bazhang, any help on ATI X300? I have tried the stuff on the forums in vain.
[11:19] <Eds> blitz_x: Australian ISPs are VERY different to the US. Every ISP has a data limit due to the cost of bandwidth internationally
[11:19] <blitz_x> LUCKILY, ubuntu.com has an option to send you a cd/dvd
[11:19] <bazhang> pwuertz: no worries
[11:19] <darthtealc> Yeah, our internet sucks here compared to the rest of the world
[11:19] <darthtealc> But anyway, I did get 7.10 and I have it installed (from scratch).
[11:20] <Eds> stupid question but have you tried rebooting after you installed? just to see?
[11:20] <gkasinath> blitz_x, The CDs sent by Ubuntu/Canonical did not work on my existing ubuntu box for some reason.
[11:20] <darthtealc> Multiple times
[11:20] <blitz_x> ok then after assimilating new information from the community, I want to make this clear.. australian ISPs apparently suck and I DO want all australians to have free unlimited access to the digital universe
[11:20] <hey-hey> w00t \o/ w00t \o/
[11:20] <martzipAN^> hey. when i execute a script trough apache its using the user "www-web" ... but its promot me to enter a password.. how can i disable it only for that propose?
[11:20] <astro76> darthtealc, do you know what mirror it's trying to use?
[11:20] <darthtealc> I think it is archive.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <Eds> change your sources to use internode maybe, its a hell of a lot faster. Or even ausgamers or bigpond files
[11:21] <astro76> darthtealc, you could change this in Software Sources and try another mirror
[11:21] <arm9_linux> who can help me :(
[11:21] <darthtealc> I will give that a try
[11:21] <arm9_linux> :(:(:(
[11:22] <gkasinath> arm9_linux, what are you after?
[11:22] <kakoonia> hey...
[11:22] <bazhang> gkasinath: using the terms: ati x300 ubuntu gutsy driver problem gave a bunch of hits--I could paste all the links, but the admins might get a tad ruffled at me :}
[11:23] <kakoonia> some encountered a problem, in firefox, when i go on youtube.. and it starts playing the movie, it loads just 3 seconds of it.. and then stops.
[11:23] <blitz_x> gutsy loves ATI
[11:23] <kakoonia> ?
[11:23] <Eds> kakoonia, are you using a proxy server?
[11:23] <hgraey> arm9_linux: vmware is proprietary software, so i guess people here can't help you with that. try #vmware. also, timing issues are still one of the big issues with virtualization, but installing the vmware tools in the guest os might help
[11:23] <martzipAN^> hey. when i execute a script trough apache its using the user "www-web" ... but its promot me to enter a password.. how can i disable it only for that propose?
[11:23] <kakoonia> Eds: i dont think i am..
[11:23] <kakoonia> fresh instllation of ubuntu..
[11:23] <Eds> hmmm, im not sure than too be honest, iv only seen that problem through a proxy server
[11:24] <gkasinath> bazhang, mate, trust me, I have tried almost all of it. I have been fighting this for over a week now. In my last ditch effort I m trying the IRC channel. :( BTW, I have the displays working, but with MESA drivers.
[11:24] <arm9_linux> hgraey.thank you
[11:24] <kakoonia> im using a router..
[11:24] <arm9_linux> but I have installed the vmware-tool
[11:24] <blitz_x> martzipan: #apache
[11:24] <arm9_linux> also select the "syn time"
[11:24] <gkasinath> bazhang, anyway now I am trying a fresh clean install stuff. Lets see how that goes.
[11:25] <kakoonia> Eds: thanks anyways..
[11:25] <marybuntu> jmb1, not sure if it's a binary...file:///tmp/rainlendar2-lite_2.3.b54-1_i386.deb is how it appeared in the download window ...
[11:25] <hgraey> arm9_linux: my last experiences with vmware are from 2 years ago, try #vmware
[11:26] <arm9_linux> ok,I will try
[11:26] <kakoonia> btw.. can it be a problem with the flash plugin? i installed it manually
[11:26] <B-rabbit> Good morning all, how do i change the resolution of my LOGIN SCREEN? at the moment its 1600x1200, but i want to change it to  1280x1024...any ideas
[11:26] <NewUbuntuFan> kakoonia, I have the same problem sometimes
[11:26] <NewUbuntuFan> youtube also crashes for me in FF occasionally, I just learned to deal with it :/
[11:26] <kakoonia> NewUbuntuFan: on youtube?
[11:26] <NewUbuntuFan> yes
[11:26] <kakoonia> hehe
[11:27] <bazhang> gkasinath: best of luck! :}
[11:27] <gkasinath> bazhang, uumm.. not counting on luck this time mate. Been down that road and it was a *no through road* :(
[11:27] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my bar of launch(daemons at startup) as disapear?
[11:27] <marybuntu> i forgot how to do this.  i downloaded Rainlendar, a calendar app, yesterday, and i want to pin to start menu, but i've forgotten how to find the file path for the command in the startup window...
[11:28] <kakoonia> well.. something isnt right, its not a problem with theire site.. i think it could be a problem of a corrupted installation of the web-browser.
[11:28] <marc_> hi
[11:28] <marybuntu> file:///tmp/rainlendar2-lite_2.3.b54-1_i386.deb is how it appeared in the download window ...
[11:28] <blitz_x> oh, I cant get the name "blitz", but mr foreign over here gets the name "ghost". awesome.
[11:28] <NewUbuntuFan> yep, either that or something going on with the flash player
[11:28] <kakoonia> !web-browser
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web-browser - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <kakoonia> !broswer
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broswer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <kakoonia> !browser
[11:28] <ubotu> Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[11:28] <zachy> o hai
[11:29] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my bar of launch(daemons at startup) as disapear?
[11:29] <NewUbuntuFan> oh cool, didn't know about that command
[11:29] <darthtealc> astro76: Thanks - I thought I had tried an alternative source, but I tried it just now and it seems to be working.
[11:29] <marc_> I just installed ubuntu last night and my computer is always at 100% for CPU usage.  I get the error CPU frequency scaling unsupported when I log in.  any ideas?
[11:29] <Mitak> ia magdanoz :)
[11:29] <magdanoz> :)
[11:30] <astro76> darthtealc, excellent
[11:30] <ahaswell> marc_: does your processor support frequency scaling?
[11:30] <astro76> !bg | Mitak
[11:30] <ubotu> Mitak: опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[11:30] <blitz_x> marc_, use the command "gnome-system-monitor" in your terminal
[11:30] <blitz_x> find out what program is at 100%
[11:30] <magdanoz> utf8 sux :>
[11:31] <marc_> apparently not.  lol  I never had any issues with my processor before.  it is a pentium 4 1.8ghz processor
[11:31] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my bar of launch(daemons at startup) as disapear?
[11:32] <blitz_x> GHOST: bad english, respecify
[11:32] <GHOST> ok
[11:32] <ahaswell> marc_: can you tell me what the output of "grep power /proc/cpuinfo" is?
[11:33] <auskadi> blitz_x, he means why has his task bar dissapeared i think - is that right GHOST
[11:33] <auskadi> task bar = panel
[11:33] <Eds> Is there a way I can setup a widget to tail my system log and embedd it into my desktop?
[11:33] <GHOST> auskadi hey
[11:33] <auskadi> hey
[11:33] <auskadi> bad english is good
[11:33] <GHOST> auskadi lol stop t4t
[11:33] <blitz_x> not for getting problems solved :P
[11:34] <auskadi> well we dont all talk it mate
[11:34] <auskadi> so be patient
[11:34] <auskadi> and think laterally
[11:34] <GHOST> auskadi 0k
[11:35] <marc_> ahaswell  I ran that from a root terminal and it didnt do anything.  just went to the next line like if I had hit enter withoput typing anything
[11:36] <KurdOver> hello
[11:36] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my gnome panel(daemons at startup) as disapear?
[11:36] <KurdOver> i have ubuntu on my hdd
[11:36] <marc_> oh by the way I am really new to all linux so pretty much treat me like an idiot.  lol
[11:36] <KurdOver> i change CPU and Motherboard
[11:36] <auskadi> GHOST, 'has dissapeared - past perfecto
[11:37] <GHOST> hello so help me plz
[11:37] <KurdOver> and Ubuntu works not as usual
[11:37] <carl_1> marc_: do you know if support for the p4 throttling is enabled in your kernel?
[11:37] <ahaswell> marc_: then I don't think you have power management on that processor
[11:37] <carl_1> KurdOver: Rebuild your kernel with proper drivers etc, and did you switch from a 32bit to a 64bit?
[11:37] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my gnome panel(daemons at startup) has disapear?
[11:37] <marc_> I also loaded ubuntu on my lap[top a couple days ago and it has a pentium 4 M and I had no problems with that processor.
[11:37] <astro76> !repeat | GHOST
[11:37] <ubotu> GHOST: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:38] <marc_> oh
[11:38] <KurdOver> 32 bit version
[11:38] <blitz_x> if you are a new user who normally uses the windows operating system, you can save use time and energy by prefacing your statements with "WindowsUserNoob"
[11:38] <marc_> I bet the laptop does
[11:38] <ahaswell> yes it prolly does
[11:38] <pawan> is there maxthon web browser for ubuntu
[11:38] <lonejack> hi, problem: the system sometimes doesn't shutdown. Is it a know problem? The only think to shutdown is the CTRL-ALT-F10 the ctrl-c
[11:38] <ahaswell> personally I think the P4 desktop chip was comparatively the worst chip ever sold
[11:38] <carl_1> lonejack: explain not shut down
[11:38] <KurdOver> how can I rebuild kernel?
[11:39] <marc_> so do I need that with ubuntu or is that something I can ignore or someway to get rid of that?
[11:39] <carl_1> KurdOver: Not sure how to do it in Ubuntu
[11:39] <astro76> pawan, granted it's not blatantly obvious on the website, but that's windows only apparently
[11:40] <ahaswell> marc_: try disabling powernowd (/etc/init.d/powernowd stop) and then logging in to check the error
[11:40] <GHOST> hello here anyone know why my gnome panel(daemons at startup) has disapear?
[11:40] <carl_1> GHOST: Im sure if somone knew theyd haev anwsered you the first 20 times you asked.
[11:40] <NewUbuntuFan> lol
[11:40] <martinw> How big should I make my separate home partition on an 80gb drive? I decided on 2gb swap (I have 512mb RAM but I am planning to upgrade) is this correct?
[11:40] <ahaswell> lol carl_1
[11:40] <GHOST> ok bye all
[11:40] <NewUbuntuFan> bye :)
[11:40] <Drainman> KurdOver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile there u have a little guide
[11:41] <astro76> martinw, that's most likely way too much swap, 1GB would be more than enough
[11:41] <ahaswell> people always make swap too big
[11:41] <lonejack> carl_1: click onthe icon upper-rught, choose shutdown. The syste doesn't switch off. The desktop remain open... Yesterday I left in that condition for 30 minutes, the system remained powered...
[11:41] <Bob_Dole> Didn't the P4's netburst arch, typically take 2x the clock cycles to complete one operation as previous arch's?
[11:41] <martinw> astro76: I read double your RAM, and I am planning to get 512 mb more ram. Were they wrong?
[11:41] <carl_1> lonejack: Do you have a USB stick or anything plugged it it maybe cant unmount?
[11:42] <NewUbuntuFan> how much ram do you currently have?
[11:42] <agent> HALLO
[11:42] <astro76> martinw, but... if you want an opinion with / and /home I'd make / about 15 GB and /home the rest
[11:42] <astro76> martinw, oh yeah, the old double your ram rule is quite bogus but oft repeated
[11:42] <blitz_x> martin: 1gb should be enough swap in my opinion, the linux partiotion need only bee as big as you need
[11:42] <astro76> martinw, with 1GB ram I still wouldn't use more than 1 GB swap, and perhaps less
[11:42] <larson9999> astro76, so what is the run on swap?
[11:42] <pawan> how to install wime
[11:42] <Drainman> astro76: i would say 10 gb fo/ is well enough
[11:42] <pawan> wine
[11:42] <larson9999> err rule
[11:42] <carl_1> larson9999: Stuff that wont fit into RAM
[11:42] <NewUbuntuFan> agreed, 1gig swap is more than enough
[11:43] <NewUbuntuFan> this "double your ram" for swap is probably back when 512mb ram was the norm
[11:43] <astro76> or even less, but it still wasn't a great rule ;
[11:43] <carl_1> I still run 2x my ram but I have like 8 HD's so :D
[11:43] <Bob_Dole> Go to add/remove programs... search for WINE...select..hit apply
[11:43] <martinw> astro76: OK thanks for the help. If I am planning to install a few heavy on graphics games should I make more space in root?
[11:43] <Bob_Dole> You'll need your root/admin. Password to do it.
[11:43] <astro76> systems with 1 GB or more can easily run with no swap, for most people
[11:44] <ahaswell> yes
[11:44] <lonejack> carl_1: I did the supposition, I switched off the external HD.
[11:44] <astro76> martinw, correct
[11:44] <Drainman> martinw: you can allways install them in you home
[11:44] <ahaswell> you can even use your VGA ram as swap
[11:44] <lonejack> carl_1: no other external devs
[11:44] <Chousuke> ahaswell: that's not very smart. :P
[11:44] <ahaswell> but another example as to why linux rules
[11:44] <larson9999> so how do figure how much swap to make?  when i got 2gb ram i used 2gb swap.  on my 4 gb machine i have no swap.  but i have sooooo much disk space on that machine i wouldn't miss it.  but i just don't how to figure how much swap i need
[11:45] <lonejack> carl_1: not exactly, wacom pen tablet and un usb cam not recognized...
[11:45] <blitz_x> astro76: systems that page all mem to chips, and not swap - have a huge rish of blowing ram chips or catching fire.
[11:45] <martinw> Thanks for your help.
[11:45] <blitz_x> risk*
[11:45] <Chousuke> larson9999: 256MB of swap will do with 2GB+.
[11:45] <carl_1> lonejack: unhook your cam then try to shutdown
[11:45] <marc_> well this computer and the P4 have done pretty good for me so far.  I bought the computer 7 years ago and havent had one hardware problem with it.  so overall I am happy with it.  though it is getting pretty old.  its about time for an upgrade.  lol
[11:45] <larson9999> Chousuke, and how did you get to that number?
[11:45] <carl_1> lonejack: if its being seen with as a mass storage device
[11:45] <astro76> blitz_x, for some reason I've never heard of flaming ram chips
[11:46] <jack>  i have mplayer, kaffeine and VLC installed and they all play the movies with a very bad picture, the yellow and the red colours are more dominating
[11:46] <jack> [12:39] <jack> all other colours other than in videos are just perfect except when playing a movie
[11:46] <jack> [12:39] <jack> i am sure that all the codecs that were ever created are
[11:46] <carl_1> larson9999: Swap doesnt really matter with 1gb+ of ram, I have 1gb of ram and run Gentoo w/ KDE and other shit and it never hits swap
[11:46] <Chousuke> larson9999: well, it's a nice power of two and probably still too much, but...
[11:46] <Bob_Dole> Lets see. I need a videocard(incase I ever go to windows I want directX9 at least) All I have is AGP 8x and normal PCI in this computer. I need a card for under 110 dollars.
[11:46] <lonejack> carl_1: how can I unhook something that hasn't been recognized...
[11:46] <ahaswell> blitz_x: I'd like to see a citation on that one
[11:46] <Bob_Dole> Any suggestions?
[11:46] <Chousuke> larson9999: the point is, you need *some*
[11:46] <blitz_x> astro76: youve never herad of a ram chip blowing or frying?
[11:46] <Chousuke> larson9999: it depends entirely on what you do
[11:46] <astro76> larson9999, it just depends on how many apps you are going to need to run simultaneously, you can fit quite a lot in 4GB
[11:46] <bazhang> lonejack: you have a support question, or a pricing question :}
[11:46] <Chousuke> larson9999: with laptops, you'll want at least the amount of RAM though.
[11:46] <astro76> larson9999, if you are talking one program which needs more memory than you have, well swap won't help too much,
[11:46] <pawan> how to install winamp
[11:47] <jack>  i have mplayer, kaffeine and VLC installed and they all play the movies with a very bad picture, the yellow and the red colours are more dominating
[11:47] <jack> [12:39] <jack> all other colours other than in videos are just perfect except when playing a movie
[11:47] <jack> [12:39] <jack> i am sure that all the codecs that were ever created are
[11:47] <ahaswell> I call shenanigans on blitz_x's statement about flaming RAM
[11:47] <carl_1> pawan: Linux doesnt not have winamp
[11:47] <NewUbuntuFan> winamp?  ew... VLC all the way!
[11:47] <Chousuke> larson9999: you can always add more swap later, though.
[11:47] <pawan> using wine
[11:47] <neur1> using xubuntu, installed vbox now all panels are gone clicked everywhere but can't add a new one do i use the term?
[11:47] <astro76> blitz_x, not really, especially due to not using swap
[11:47] <bazhang> oops sorry lonejack, that was meant for bob dole
[11:47] <Chousuke> just make an empty file with dd and run mkswap on it :)
[11:47] <astro76> blitz_x, especially not*
[11:47] <Chousuke> then swapon
[11:47] <scguy318> pawan: wine /path/to/installer?
[11:47] <neur1> to add?
[11:47] <Bob_Dole> Last time I installed WinAmp under WINE...omg what a pain(Installs just like under windows, you just have to sometimes right click and manually tell it to open with WINE) It's a pain because it didn't run quite right
[11:47] <astro76> pawan, use audacious or xmms
[11:48] <astro76> pawan, they are just like winamp
[11:48] <blitz_x> ok all I have to say to my RAM-chip naysayers: your mistake to make.
[11:48] <larson9999> Chousuke, well not having a method to determine the amount you need makes it kinda hard to determine how much to make.  and if us vets can't come up with anything better than what we've listed hear, how do you expect a noob not to  use a rule that's not good but at least is a rule?
[11:48] <blitz_x> brb'
[11:48] <jack>  i have mplayer, kaffeine and VLC installed and they all play the movies with a very bad picture, the yellow and the red colours are more dominating
[11:48] <jack> [12:39] <jack> all other colours other than in videos are just perfect except when playing a movie
[11:48] <jack> [12:39] <jack> i am sure that all the codecs that were ever created are
[11:48] <scguy318> Bob_Dole: yeah, Winamp as of...45 doesn't work well on Wine I don't believe
[11:48] <Bob_Dole> Neither of those support Mp3 without intentionaly hard to find codecs..but then this was..a while ago.
[11:48] <scguy318> Bob_Dole: not sure of the status of 52
[11:48] <Bob_Dole> I was using 9.167
[11:48] <Bob_Dole> 9.16*
[11:48] <astro76> jack, if you are going to repeat every minute at least do it on one line
[11:48] <Chousuke> larson9999: there is no "rule" in the first place.
[11:48] <scguy318> Bob_Dole: yikes, a very long tiem ago :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> larson9999: that's a problem, but it's something we can't really solve.
[11:49] <Chousuke> larson9999: the only rule is that you usually need *some* swap
[11:49] <bazhang> jack: are you using compiz? that may be a source of your troubles
[11:49] <larson9999> Chousuke, oh sure there is.  google how much swap do i need and you'll find lots of 'twice your ram is a good rule of thumb'
[11:49] <Chousuke> larson9999: but it's not
[11:49] <larson9999> Chousuke, i know cause i've been googling that for 10 years :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> it's an obsolete rule
[11:50] <Bob_Dole> I had...10x the amount of RAM I had untill I reinstalled.
[11:50] <astro76> larson9999, well the ubuntu installer in guided mode automatically makes a small amount of swap
[11:50] <jack> bazhang: no i am not using compiz
[11:50] <Chousuke> the amount of swap you need depends entirely on what you will do with your system
[11:50] <Bob_Dole> that was a "wtf?" kinda moment for me..when I noticed that
[11:50] <astro76> larson9999, the user doesn't have to know, so the decision has been made (not sure what it uses but it's not 2x ram ;))
[11:50] <Bob_Dole> 10GB is a little excessive for swap, don't you think?
[11:50] <Chousuke> if you run a server, you can easily use 2x you RAM of swap
[11:50] <Chousuke> but on a desktop, not so.
[11:50] <scguy318> astro76: I think it's a little more than RAM capacity so hibernation works I think
[11:51] <jack> i have mplayer, kaffeine and VLC installed and they all play the movies with a very bad picture, the yellow and the red colours are more dominating. all other colours other than in videos are just perfect except when playing a movie. i am also sure that all the codecs that were ever created are installed
[11:51] <bazhang> jack what player? others may yield success-that has been my experience at least
[11:51] <larson9999> Chousuke, and my point is that a noob looking for the answer to how much swap do i need will see that and make double his ram.  i'd say it's a better rule for noobs than depends on what you do :)
[11:51] <LukeL> Read exactly what a Swap file is then make your own decision on how much you need
[11:51] <astro76> scguy318, ah right forgot about hibernation
[11:51] <jack> mplayer, vlc and kaffeine are showing the same result
[11:51] <LukeL> there is no rule of thumb
[11:51] <bazhang> jack what about totem
[11:51] <Chousuke> larson9999: well, I suppose the noobs won't care about a gigabyte or two of wasted space
[11:51] <jack> let me install totem and get back to you
[11:51] <Chousuke> larson9999: IMO, though, they should just go with what the ubuntu installer tells them
[11:52] <bazhang> isnt totem installed by default?
[11:52] <bazhang> !info totem
[11:52] <jack> i am on KDE
[11:52] <lostylost> does anyone know how to find the directory a bash script is in.    eg    I run     bzr_scripts/push    how can I find the absolute path of the push script so I can use it to call other scripts in the scripts/ directory ?
[11:52] <ubotu> totem: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 208 kB, installed size 244 kB
[11:52] <ushi> hello everybody. is there a way to autorejoin channels using konversation?
[11:52] <Chousuke> larson9999: all this would be solved if ubuntu used dynamic swap like OS X, though.
[11:52] <Bob_Dole> and I noticed earlier today, Ubuntu went and tracked down all the codecs I needed in whatever movie player it was...does it do that in most of the media players on Ubuntu?
[11:52] <Bob_Dole> OS X <3
[11:53] <Bob_Dole> I'm sticking with OS X 10.4.1 untill I find a compelling reason to update >.>
[11:53] <Chousuke> larson9999: OS X creates more swap files as needed,
[11:53] <scguy318> Bob_Dole: that would be Totem, not sure of the other players, VLC/mplayer already has the necessary stuff
[11:53] <jack> codecs have become dependancies when installing meia players
[11:53] <Chousuke> Bob_Dole: 10.4.1? :P
[11:53] <larson9999> Chousuke, yeah.  i think some day linux will use dynamic swap.
[11:53] <jack> especially win32codec
[11:53] <Bob_Dole> 10.5 is out. but I'm happy with 10.4
[11:53] <bazhang> jack what media are you trying to play?
[11:54] <Chousuke> larson9999: it could do that already. someone just needs to write the swap-allocator daemon
[11:54] <Chousuke> Bob_Dole: yeah, but I suppose you meant 10.4.11 :)
[11:54] <jack> i installed totem and played the movies and it made the same result
[11:54] <Bob_Dole> Doh. yeah.
[11:54] <scguy318> larson9999: googling Linux dynamic swap shows a interesting answer on the first hit
[11:54] <jack> bazhang: i am trying all media players that i ahve installed, now there are FOUR of them
[11:55] <bazhang> jack what media are you trying to play
[11:55] <carl_1> jack: I think you narrowed it down to not being a media player problem perhaps?
[11:55] <Bob_Dole> God my iMac is so wonderful
[11:56] <bazhang> offtopic Bob_Dole
[11:56] <jack> carl_1: yes i dont think it is a media player problem and i dont think it is a codec peoblem
[11:56] <Bob_Dole> My existance is off topic
[11:56] <larson9999> scguy318, looks like i'm right and the day is now.  i think i'll give that a go this weekend.
[11:56] <jack> this is why i am seeking help here as i tried a lot without getting anywhere, i am not sure where to tweak
[11:56] <Chousuke> scguy318: that's not as flexible as OS X's method.
[11:56] <bazhang> what media jack
[11:57] <jack> bazhang: i am using mplayer, kaffeine, vlc and now totem
[11:57] <sai> fdsf
[11:57] <Chousuke> it creates *several* swap files.
[11:57] <larson9999> scguy318, i should have guessed that.  everytime i think "someone oughtta do this"  someone already is.
[11:57] <bazhang> ugh
[11:57] <Chousuke> starting with a 64MB one I think
[11:57] <jack> the media i am trying to run is xvid movies
[11:57] <scguy318> jack: w32codecs?
[11:57] <ushi> i haz boobies and i haz questium plz... i want autorejoin using konversation... anyune plz? :)
[11:57] <Chousuke> then gradually increasing the size of the created files.
[11:57] <jack> bazhang: the media i am trying to run are xvid movies
[11:57] <scguy318> Chousuke: ah
[11:57] <jack> scguy318: all the codecs that exist are installed
[11:58] <scguy318> jack: including the w32codecs package? k
[11:58] <ahaswell> swap files as opposed to swap partitions can't be very efficient
[11:58] <astro76> Chousuke, larson9999, the other thing is with huge hard drives, why get complicated, just make a big swap if you want
[11:58] <jack> scguy318: yes the win32codec is also installed
[11:58] <ahaswell> which is why windows page file is poor
[11:58] <bazhang> is 6GB too large a swap? :}
[11:58] <ahaswell> depends :P
[11:58] <bazhang> haha
[11:58] <astro76> but if you are swapping your system is CRAWLING, nothing beats ram
[11:58] <Bob_Dole> I had a 10GB swap partition
[11:58] <jack> the problem is not in the players and not in the codecs, it is not in the files i have either
[11:59] <ahaswell> bazhang: buy more RAM
[11:59] <ahaswell> much easier
[12:00] <Bob_Dole> I dunno if my other stick of 512MB of RAM is bad or not.. I use it with the stick in this system and it memtest86 is 100% fail.
[12:00] <carl_1> Bob_Dole: anything that fails 100% is generally bad?
[12:00] <Bob_Dole> But it's both sticks
[12:00] <Bob_Dole> one should work, yes?
[12:00] <carl_1> not if they've both failed
[12:00] <Bob_Dole> so shouldn't be a full 100% fail?
[12:00] <carl_1> test them individually
[12:00] <Bob_Dole> But without other stick, 100% pass
[12:01] <carl_1> well Id use the stick thats 100% pass and not the one thats 100%fail
[12:01] <ushi> gimmeh! <3
[12:01] <Bob_Dole> I bety they both work actually.. just they perhaps don't like eachother
[12:01] <carl_1> anyways it 5AM
[12:01] <carl_1> sleep time for this guy
[12:01] <carl_1> ciao
[12:01] <larson9999> astro76, yes.  the topic was "people always make too much swap".  i was commenting that's because the only rule of thumb those who aren't techie enough to get down and dirty to determine how much swap they need have is "twice your ram"  i wasn't trying to solve the issue.  just pointing out why.
[12:02] <ushi> i haz boobies and i haz questium plz... i want autorejoin using konversation... anyune plz? :)
[12:02] <NewUbuntuFan> oh, old question that just popped into my head...do Hibernate actually work for anyone here?
[12:02] <NewUbuntuFan> *does
[12:02] <astro76> larson9999, continued in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:02] <Bob_Dole> I've had hibernate work
[12:02] <Bob_Dole> On Fedora
[12:02] <bazhang> ushi that should be in the configuration settings take a look around there
[12:03] <NewUbuntuFan> was that on a desktop or laptop?
[12:03] <B-rabbit> NewUbuntuFan, it works for me
[12:03] <B-rabbit> :)
[12:03] <Bob_Dole> I've never tried Hibernate in ubuntu
[12:03] <ushi> bazhang: of course i did... nothing like that
[12:03] <scguy318> NewUbuntuFan: works for me if I disable DRI
[12:03] <B-rabbit> scguy318, what's DRI?
[12:03] <NewUbuntuFan> ah very interesting
[12:03] <scguy318> B-rabbit: Direct Rendering Infrastructure
[12:03] <scguy318> B-rabbit: direct rendering :)
[12:03] <B-rabbit> ic
[12:04] <NewUbuntuFan> ty, I will look into that
[12:04] <scguy318> B-rabbit: its a quirk with the ati xorg module, if I didn't, hibernation would work but getting back wouldn't
[12:04] <larson9999> NewUbuntuFan, based on the amount of questions i see on 'hibernate/suspend in linux' i'd say it's never worked for anyone ever :)  heck a guy at work last week asked me if i could help him with his vista machine.  says his hibernate isn't working :)
[12:04] <bazhang> ushi it works here after setting it, you may just be missing it
[12:04] <NewUbuntuFan> lol
[12:04] <ushi> dammit
[12:04] <ushi> k, thx
[12:04] <scguy318> larson9999: hibernation/suspend on Linux has much work that needs to be done
[12:04] <Chousuke> ahaswell: the performance penalty for hitting swap at all dwarfs the difference between swap files and swap partitions
[12:05] <ahaswell> indeed
[12:05] <mark223> yeah but vista is crap anyway
[12:05] <B-rabbit> scguy318, i had that problem in feasty...but i think the fixed the problem in gusty :)
[12:05] <Chousuke> and if you ever use 2x your RAM of swap on a modern machine, it'll probably be so strained that the only way to solve your problem is to hit the reset button
[12:06] <B-rabbit> it works fine now
[12:06] <scguy318> B-rabbit: I'm still affected unfortunately :(
[12:06] <scguy318> Chousuke: or the OOM killer :P
[12:06] <imgoofygoober> i love ubuntu in your mom!
[12:06] <scguy318> Chousuke: if it ever got that point that is
[12:06] <scguy318> Chousue: *got to that point
[12:07] <Chousuke> scguy318: with a lot of swap you might not even get the OOM killer.
[12:07] <Bob_Dole> No..3D...Drivers for SiS integrated video, least not on fedora 8, and I doubt I'll have any more luck on Ubuntu. :|
[12:07] <MFreenet> hi, how can i change the resolution of the terminal? not in x
[12:07] <Chousuke> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550#comment_15 <- this is a good comment about swap on modern systems
[12:07] <Chousuke> Bob_Dole: does SiS even do 3d? :P
[12:07] <scguy318> MFreenet: stty?
[12:07] <scguy318> MFreenet: not sure
[12:07] <Bob_Dole> Seems to under windows
[12:07] <Bob_Dole> But I erased windows
[12:08] <MFreenet> scguy318: i think this stuff salled bash (:
[12:08] <Chousuke> are you sure it's not software? :P
[12:08] <LukeL> Anyone able to help me get my old Radeon 7200 properly setup to use the composite line in? I'm using Kubuntu
[12:09] <Bob_Dole> I got 110 dollars to spend, AGP is the best option for video cards I can use. (as I don't have PCI-e/PCIE16) Any suggestions for actual cards?
[12:10] <ahaswell> nvidia
[12:10] <hgraey> nvidia
[12:10] <larson9999> nvidia
[12:11] <jokoon> Hello, I have a nokia cellphone who has bluetooth and a bluetooth "dongle", I just installed ubuntu 7.10, it automatically has a bluetooth icon, it reads my phone's name, but when I click connect it says "obex://[00:15:de:28:55:92]" is not a valid location.
[12:11] <larson9999> even LukeL should chuck his radeon and buy nvidia :)
[12:12] <LukeL> lol
[12:12] <jokoon> what's wrong, it looks so close to working
[12:12] <scguy318> jokoon: sudo apt-get install gnome-vfs-obexftp
[12:12] <Eds> anyone know if there is a tail widget?
[12:14] <jokoon> how do I start it ?
[12:14] <Bob_Dole> I was looking at Nvida cards on newegg... this seems like a nice deal, but as I don't know all that much about videocards... :/   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121064&Tpk=asus%2bN7600gs   this card worth it?
[12:14] <Drainman> jokoon: type obex:/// in nautilus
[12:14] <scguy318> jokoon: do that in the Terminal
[12:15] <Drainman> jokoon: u must connect ur phone first
[12:15] <jokoon> thanks it works
[12:15] <flokuehn> hey everybody. which application ist similar to debians install-mbr
[12:15] <flokuehn> ?
[12:17] <scguy318> flokuehn: install-mbr :P (its in repos)
[12:17] <pqxc> dfd
[12:17] <flokuehn> scguy318: which repos do you use? i cant find it
[12:17] <Bob_Dole> I wonder if I can use my Apple USB modem on linux o.o
[12:17] <gvsa123> any ideas on why my system clock won't sync?
[12:18] <scguy318> !info install-mbr | flokuehn
[12:18] <ubotu> flokuehn: Package install-mbr does not exist in gutsy
[12:18] <scguy318> hmph sec
[12:18] <flokuehn> scguy318: ok thank you
[12:18] <scguy318> !info mbr | flokuehn
[12:18] <ubotu> flokuehn: mbr: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[12:19] <scguy318> flokuehn: I believe that's the one
[12:19] <scguy318> !dialup | Bob_Dole
[12:19] <ubotu> Bob_Dole: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[12:19] <scguy318> Bob_Dole: not sure but you prob should check out the info
[12:19] <flokuehn> scguy318: i've already seen this but didnt think its the right one. i will have a try. thank you and a good new year
[12:19] <Bob_Dole> I'm thinking about portability, as I often end up places with no Highspeed
[12:19] <scguy318> flokuehn: you too, thanks
[12:20] <Eds> anyone have any idea how to embed a tail of messages into the desktop?
[12:21] <ahaswell> Eds: sounds cool - I'd like to know too
[12:21] <korosora_> i would like to congratulate AMD for making a great alternative to Intel's quad core processor
[12:21] <gvsa123> i need help with my system clock please... it won't sync :)
[12:21] <Pici> Eds: use a custom profile for gnome-terminal (one with a unique title) and devilspie
[12:21] <Drainman> Eds: you can always use like conky and make a py script
[12:21] <Pici> !devilspie | Eds
[12:21] <ubotu> Eds: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[12:21] <korosora_> GJ AMD. looks like AMD and ATI are back in the game.
[12:21] <korosora_> :3
[12:22] <LukeL> lol
[12:22] <Pici> Eds: Make the window fully transparent and hide the decorations, and pin to desktop with devilspie
[12:22] <Drainman> Eds: Pici's idea is probably better
[12:22] <Drainman> Eds: or if u use compiz u can do it without devilspie
[12:22] <Eds> I already use compiz
[12:23] <Pici> Right, devilspie is only for metacity anyway.
[12:23] <Eds> how do you do it with compiz?
[12:23] <Drainman> Eds: http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html
[12:24] <Drainman> Eds: then u have a script running with a interval that prints the tail u want
[12:24] <zobban> hi all i am tryin to convert a file from avi to mpeg with ffmpeg and i get this error http://www.pastebin.ca/840021
[12:25] <Drainman> zobban: try another file
[12:25] <Eds> Drainman, pity there isnt a widget for screenlets :P
[12:25] <zobban> i dont have other avi files
[12:25] <Drainman> zobban: if that works then the input file is broken
[12:26] <Drainman> zobban: then thats a problem :)
[12:26] <zobban> no the file is good i am watchin on my pc
[12:26] <Drainman> Eds: yeah it is
[12:26] <Drainman> Eds: you can allways write one :)
[12:26] <Eds> I installed Ubuntu as a desktop last night, still learning :P
[12:27] <Drainman> Eds: i see :), python aint that hard to learn
[12:27] <pfeels> Hi guys, me too, new to this stuff
[12:27] <LukeL> zobban: try putting the input file name in quotes
[12:27] <Eds> Drainman:  I wouldnt mind learning it :)
[12:27] <pfeels> Drainman: it is if your dumb
[12:27] <LukeL> ffmpeg -i "21.DEA GIGA SHOW 2008.avi" hasani.mpg
[12:27] <Drainman> Eds: python.org at your service :)
[12:28] <pfeels> and I am
[12:28] <Drainman> pfeels: everyone is new at some time
[12:28] <kakoonia> NewUbuntuFan : btw.. i found what was the problem.. with youtube clips..
[12:29] <Drainman> pfeels: and its nice to see that someone tries :)
[12:29] <pfeels> Drainman: I know, I'm just making a joke, this stuff is awesome
[12:29] <kakoonia> NewUbuntuFan : low disk space.
[12:29] <zobban> yes it worked now LukeL
[12:29] <LukeL> good =)
[12:29] <Drainman> pfeels: :P
[12:30] <LukeL> anytime a file has spaces in the name you'll have to enclose it in quotes
[12:30] <zobban> ok well its hard to find tutorials on the google tutorials  with qoutes
[12:30] <LukeL> ffmpeg was taking it as 21.DEA as the file name them GIGA SHOW etc as additional parameters
[12:30] <praveer_fedora> which is the package for source code for linux modules?
[12:30] <LukeL> then*
[12:30] <zobban> how do i see how long time will it take
[12:31] <LukeL> how long is the movie?
[12:31] <pfeels> Later all, have a good day
[12:31] <LukeL> I'm not sure where it shows how long it will take, i've never used ffmpeg
[12:31] <praveer_fedora>  uname -r ->  2.6.22-14-server
[12:31] <por100pre1> Happy New Year Ubunteros!
[12:32] <zobban> the file is 624,1 MB
[12:32] <white_eagle> nah its 1:31 at me
[12:32] <white_eagle> PM
[12:32] <zobban> will the quaility be the same as the .avi or less
[12:33] <Drainman> zobban: it depends on how you do it :)
[12:33] <zobban> dude you were not that good with ubuntu
[12:33] <white_eagle> zobban: who
[12:33] <zobban> (:
[12:33] <zobban> drainman
[12:33] <Drainman> zobban: ohh thank you :)
[12:34] <zobban> he saw my errors and he says try another file that was not the solution the solution was to put the file name with qoutes as mr.Lukel said
[12:34] <LukeL> heh
[12:34] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, I have 2 questions, First of all Happy New Year! And now the questions. 1-How can I downgrade my drivers(nVidia)? I installed them through Envy. 2-I have a problem with my keyboard, and it seems to be realted to Ubuntu, When I start up Ubuntu, the keyboard is working for a while, after some time, it freezes the key I last wrote. It works again, and does the same thing, it gets like 1 hour to go back to normal (not freeze), what should I do? I ha
[12:34] <DarkSpirit221> ve 2 keyboards connected and they do the same thing at the same time. Thanks.
[12:35] <LukeL> That's actually a general computer thing, any OS will complain about file names with spaces
[12:35] <Myrtti> !envy | DarkSpirit221
[12:35] <ubotu> DarkSpirit221: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:35] <Drainman> So now im bad with computers to :P
[12:35] <Ayabara> If I have multiple distros installed on a pc, is it ok to use the same home folder/partition, or is that just asking for trouble?
[12:35] <Drainman> acctually i read the last line and said what stood there :)
[12:36] <LukeL> yeah haha
[12:36] <LukeL> it's ffmpeg's fault
[12:36] <DarkSpirit221> Okay Myrtti. What about the second question anyone can help?
[12:36] <Drainman> yeah lets blam ffmpeg
[12:36] <Drainman> :)
[12:36] <quebex12> anyone here know how to write an iso to a USB thumbdrive and make it bootable?
[12:36] <LukeL> anyway.. about the quality.. when you're transcoding video the quality can only go down
[12:36] <zobban> well if you don't know to convert a file and you are tryin to support others here in channel then you suck dude haha
[12:36] <Myrtti> DarkSpirit221: tough one that is
[12:36] <Arthur> What's a good Windows Emulator that'll allow me to play PC games on?
[12:37] <LukeL> zobban: he just oversaw the obvious, no need to insult people
[12:37] <Drainman> zobban: sry for trying to be of assitans
[12:37] <LukeL> Arthur: WINE
[12:37] <white_eagle> arth: cedega, but you'll have to pay :(
[12:37] <DarkSpirit221> Arthur: www.winehq.com
[12:37] <quebex12> anyone here know how to write an iso to a USB thumbdrive and make it bootable?
[12:37] <hgraey> has anyone overcome the timer/oops problems with gutsy as a xen0 as described e.g. here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xen/+bug/146924 if so, how? it's a showstopper, and not getting hardy to work properly either has left me confused and tired :/
[12:38] <Arthur> LukeL I was told that there's another one, made for gaming
[12:38] <white_eagle> I know about wine, but I bought cedega and it works fine for me, if you don't want to pay, use wine instead
[12:38] <zobban> now drainman you can download and .avi file and convert it to mpeg with ffmpeg if you need help give me a call +46704...
[12:38] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: Well, It is really annoying have to wait 1 hour till It gets to normal...
[12:38] <Drainman> zobban: will do :)
[12:38] <Myrtti> DarkSpirit221: have you tried what happens if you've got only one keyboard attached
[12:38] <LukeL> zobban: might I ask why you're transcoding it to mpeg?
[12:39] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: Yes
[12:39] <white_eagle> Arthur, I told you, the one that is made for gaming is called TransGaming Cedega
[12:39] <zobban> i want to burn it to cd so i can see it on my dvd
[12:39] <LukeL> Arthur: sorry I don't know much about windows emulation
[12:39] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: Still the same...
[12:39] <Drainman> Arthur: i would say wine works fine for me, but i play starcraft and warcraft3
[12:39] <zobban> my dvd dont play .avi
[12:39] <Arthur> Ah, ok
[12:39] <Arthur> Thank you Drainman
[12:39] <Drainman> Arthur: and some halflife
[12:40] <Arthur> Orange Box?
[12:40] <Arthur> That's what I really want it for
[12:40] <LukeL> You can lookup any game @ winehq.com
[12:40] <Myrtti> DarkSpirit221: you've checked the error logs what happens?
[12:40] <Fricule> Ya til des français?
[12:40] <LukeL> they have a rating system setup to show how well it performs
[12:40] <white_eagle> at me wine didn't work with CIV 4, but I used cedega instead
[12:40] <Arthur> [04:37:57] <Marius> yo uare thinking of Cedega
[12:40] <Arthur> [04:38:23] <Marius> and it uses WINE
[12:40] <Arthur> [04:38:31] <Marius> but it's made for running games etc
[12:40] <Arthur> [04:38:37] <Marius> but requires you to pay a monthly fee
[12:40] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: What error logs?
[12:40] <Arthur> I'm not sure if that's the only one though
[12:40] <wols_> !fr | Fricule
[12:40] <ubotu> Fricule: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:41] <zobban> drainman how long will it take to convert a .avi file which is 664mb to mpeg usin ffmpeg how long time will it take
[12:41] <Myrtti> DarkSpirit221: for instance, what dmesg says when you plug in the keyboards, etc.
[12:41] <Drainman> Arthur: i have had a hard time playing hl2
[12:42] <Arthur> What do you mean by hard time?
[12:42] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: I noticed at the start of the problem (It doesn't happen anymore) that I could listen to a "radio interference" through the speakers like when sending a text message or receiveing a phone call close to speakers, when that noise appeared the keyboard changed status between freezed and normal. I counted and it was 15 seconds each, it doesn't appen anymore, and 15 seconds thing it's not working anymore too...
[12:42] <Drainman> Arthur: never got it going satisfactory
[12:42] <Arthur> That's not good news :/
[12:42] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: Do you want me to pastebin my current dmesg?
[12:42] <Drainman> zobban: actually i dont really know
[12:43] <Arthur> Any idea how I'd be able to run it close to decent?
[12:43] <zobban> wow you are really bad with computers
[12:43] <Myrtti> DarkSpirit221: sure
[12:43] <white_eagle> cedega is fine
[12:43] <Drainman> zobban: but 10 min from my dv cam takes like 30mins depending on the compression
[12:43] <white_eagle> but you have to pay
[12:43] <Pici> Arthur: Either check http://appdb.winehq.org for hints or ask in #winehq
[12:44] <Arthur> Thank you Pici
[12:44] <Drainman> Arthur: install steam and dl it and try :)
[12:44] <DarkSpirit221> Myrtti: It has alot of PPP: VJ decompression error, I think it erased the rest because ths is too long... :O
[12:44] <Arthur> !steam
[12:44] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[12:44] <zobban> does the quaility be good
[12:51] <B-rabbit> wtf
[12:51] <LukeL> zobban: a few websites about transcoding video to DVD/SVCD etc are www.afterdawn.com & www.doom9.org
[12:51] <LukeL> There is a lot of good information on those websites that could answer any question you have
[12:51] <sersocker> wenas
[12:52] <Flannel> !netsplit
[12:52] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:55] <godmachine81> any good apps for xbox 360 on ubuntu repos?
[12:57] <chazco> Hi... are packages created with dpkg cached anywhere?
[12:57] <chazco> installed with dpkg
[12:59] <astro76> chazco, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:59] <chazco> astro76 - checked, it doesnt seem to be in there
[13:00] <astro76> chazco, hmm yeah that would just be packages downloaded by apt
[13:01] <Pici> !away > urbanmonkey_work (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:06] <turbo_> hello everyone, I got some very frustrating problem. I just installed ubuntu 7.10, after install I made an update, and after it lots off apps crashes with segfault. I thought there is problem with libc6, reinstalled it, and could run gnome-terminal, but other apps continues to crash... does anybody know how to solve the problem ?
[13:08] <tomy> hh
[13:10] <rich__> hi guys
[13:10] <CyberWorld> any info on next ubuntu release?
[13:11] <astro76> !hardy | CyberWorld
[13:11] <ubotu> CyberWorld: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:11] <zachy> o hai
[13:11] <Myrtti> April, my dear
[13:11] <CyberWorld> thx
[13:12] <rich__> guys, i'm stuck with mkfs.xfs - im receiving a device or resource busy on an external hard disk that i have just bought. Fuser shows no processes.
[13:13] <Pici> turbo_: Have you used any third-party repositories or tools like Automatix?
[13:14] <rich__> does anyone know how i can determine what the issue is?
[13:14] <b4ckd00red> hi all
[13:14] <sikor_sxe> i accidently removed a crucial file, how do i reinstall a package with apt-get?
[13:15] <crush_groove> sudo apt-get reinstall [pkge]
[13:15] <rich__> apt-get reinstall packagename
[13:15] <turbo_> Pici: I enabled third-party repositories but I did not installed any apps, it was the clean installation, immediately after installation I started synaptics, enabled repozitories and made an update
[13:16] <b4ckd00red> turbo_: and..
[13:16] <b4ckd00red> ?
[13:16] <Pici> turbo_: 32 or 64 bits?
[13:16] <MikeH> Hey guys, trying to access my usb disc, upon plugging in, I got "Unable to mount device" I've tried mount -t vfat to no avail.
[13:16] <turbo_> b4ckd00red: lots of apps crashes with segfault
[13:16] <MikeH> Any ideas?
[13:16] <turbo_> Pici: 32
[13:16] <b4ckd00red> ok
[13:16] <Pici> turbo_: Have you tried doing a memtest?
[13:17] <rich__> try the force option MikeH
[13:17] <turbo_> Pici: no because ubuntu 7.04 worked just fine on the same machine
[13:17]  * Rufus back
[13:17] <sikor_sxe> rich__, crush_groove : my ubuntu does not seem to have this reinstall commandline option
[13:17] <Pici> sikor_sxe: its apt-get install --reinstall package   iird
[13:18] <turbo_> Pici: I got similar problems on my laptop after installing ubuntu 7.10, but reinstall of libc6 helped, here doesn't helps
[13:18] <cowmooo> hello,can any one give me some adives about learn linux
[13:18] <flox> !FTPd
[13:18] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:18] <th0r> MikeH unplug it, open a terminal and type 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and then plug the drive back in. You should see the new entries in the log identifying the drive...or not
[13:18] <crush_groove> yikes ..
[13:18] <crush_groove> ty so much pici /. I assumed
[13:18] <zetheroo> happy new years
[13:18] <zetheroo> everyone
[13:18] <flox> !wzdftpd
[13:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wzdftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <cowmooo> hello,can any one give me some adives about learn linux
[13:19] <cowmooo> hello,can any one give me some advices about learn linux
[13:19] <th0r> cowmooo first....repeating your self and flooding the channel will get you little to nothing
[13:20] <th0r> cowmooo try here....http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
[13:20] <rich__> cowmoo, the best way to read books. i have done this and im still struggling, lol. know anything about creating filesystems on busy devices?
[13:20] <Enselic> cowmooo: using Linux is the best way of learning t
[13:20] <zetheroo> cowmooo: go to linux.org and do some free online courses
[13:20] <crush_groove> cowmooo,  learn basic bash prompt commands first .
[13:20] <Enselic> cowmooo: then whenever you wanna do something you don't know, just ask here
[13:20] <bjoich> HI
[13:20] <zetheroo> happy new years from Australia.... Long Live Ubuntu
[13:20] <rich__> Enselic, can you help me with mkfs.xfs, i am receiving a device busy error.
[13:20] <bjoich> i have problem with my c++ in ubuntu
[13:20] <rich__> cant find anything on the net.
[13:20] <iblicf> happy new years from CHINA
[13:21] <cowmooo> thx ,and happu new year
[13:21] <bjoich> when i try to compile smt. It shows error: cannot find blablabla.h
[13:21] <Enselic> rich__: what is mkfs.xfs?
[13:21] <bjoich> windows.h or smt..
[13:21] <bjoich> What should i do ?:p
[13:21] <Regel> happy new year :) from Finland
[13:21] <Myrtti> bjoich: you need the relevant headers found in -dev packages
[13:21] <GarulfoUnix> quelqu'un sait comment prendre les 5 dernières entrées d'une SGBDR ?
[13:21] <rich__> the command for creating an XFS filesystem
[13:21] <Enselic> bjoich: what are you trying to compile?
[13:21] <Myrtti> !fr | GarulfoUnix
[13:21] <ubotu> GarulfoUnix: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:21] <GarulfoUnix> sorry lol
[13:21] <zetheroo> Regel: has Finland already gone through New Years?
[13:21] <Enselic> rich__: you can't create a file system on a device in use
[13:21] <Myrtti> zetheroo: no
[13:21] <GarulfoUnix> i clicked too fast on my IRC Client :D
[13:22] <rich__> the device isnt in use, i have checked with fuser. its an external hard disk that i have just bought
[13:22] <rich__> and it is not mounted.
[13:22] <crush_groove> zetheroo, . great resource. linux.org courses.
[13:22] <wols_> rich__: "mount"
[13:23] <zetheroo> crush_groove: yeah... I know
[13:24] <Enselic> bjoich: hello?
[13:24] <bjoich> y0
[13:25] <bjoich> i have errors
[13:25] <bjoich> c++ IMBA.cpp -o imbaaa
[13:25] <bjoich> IMBA.cpp:6:21: error: Windows.h: No such file or directory
[13:25] <Enselic> bjoich: is windows.h your own include file or is it the Win32 API windows.h include file?
[13:26] <rich__> wols, you cannot create filesystem on mounted FSs
[13:26] <wols_> rich__: that's not what I said
[13:26] <rich__> sorry, what do you mean?
[13:27] <bjoich> no . I havent eavent installed any c++.
[13:27] <wols_> I mean you to run "mount"
[13:27] <bjoich> how can i reinstall c++ on my ubuntu?
[13:27] <Enselic> bjoich: you can't "install c++", what you can install is a c++ compiler and runtime system
[13:27] <wols_> bjoich: build-essential
[13:27] <Enselic> bjoich: you appearently have a c++ compiler installed since there is one able to give you compilation errors
[13:27] <rich__> ok, but why?
[13:28] <bjoich> hmm.
[13:28] <bjoich> Ok how can i get my compiller w0rking?:p
[13:28] <wols_> bjoich: you cannot directly compile windows programs for linux
[13:28] <bjoich> CANT?
[13:28] <Enselic> bjoich: now, this windows.h include file the compiler asks about, is this your own file or is the program you are trying to compile written for windows?
[13:28] <Enselic> bjoich: your compiler *is* working...
[13:28] <Enselic> bjoich: you just don't know how to use it
[13:28] <wols_> bjoich: there is no windows.h header for linux. unless you want to count winelib
[13:29] <Enselic> bjoich: whenever you want to say something, please include my nick so that I get notified when you say something to me
[13:29] <bjoich> Ok tell me how to use my compiler
[13:29] <bjoich> to compile *.cpp
[13:29] <bjoich> ...
[13:29] <zobban> i converted a movie from .avi to mpeg the quaility is low what to do
[13:29] <bjoich> Enselic:ok
[13:30] <Enselic> bjoich: what is it that you are trying to compile? where di you get the program from? is it your own?
[13:30] <wols_> bjoich: you used it the right way, but you can't simply compile programs written for windows under linux
[13:30] <Enselic> bjoich: I need to know this in order to help you
[13:30] <Enselic> bjoich: I can't help you if I don't know what exact problem you are having
[13:30] <bjoich> Enselic:if ill tell youll ignore me :)))
[13:31] <Enselic> bjoich: dude, I really wanna help you, don't worry
[13:31] <rich__> v
[13:31] <rich__> root@host:~# fuser /dev/sdc1
[13:31] <rich__> root@host:~# mkfs.xfs /dev/sdc1 -L 500GB
[13:31] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy
[13:31] <jad_jay> irc.freenode.org
[13:31] <wols_> !paste | rich__
[13:31] <ubotu> rich__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:31] <Pici> jad_jay: you're already there.
[13:31] <wols_> rich__: can you finally do what I asked you?
[13:31] <zobban> i converted a movie from .avi to mpeg the quaility is low what to do
[13:31] <Enselic> bjoich: your IRC client probably has Tab completion, try Ens<TAB>, that way you don't have to write my full nick
[13:32] <rich__> do what type mount?
[13:32] <wols_> zobban: not use mpeg2
[13:32] <wols_> zobban: erm, not use mpeg of course
[13:32] <wols_> rich__: yes
[13:32] <rich__> i have
[13:32] <bjoich> Enselic:what??:p
[13:32] <wols_> rich__: then will you tell us the result?
[13:32] <rich__> you want the output?
[13:32] <zobban> so wha to do
[13:33] <Enselic> bjoich: what IRC client are you using?
[13:33] <bjoich> Enselic:windows irc
[13:33] <Enselic> bjoich: windows irc? never heard of that one
[13:33] <bjoich> Enselic: lol w8
[13:33] <Enselic> bjoich: so are you compiling in cygwin or what?
[13:33] <larson9999> windows irc must be mirc
[13:33] <bjoich> mIRC v6.21 Khaled Mardam-Bey
[13:34] <bjoich> yes mirc
[13:34] <bjoich> LOL
[13:34] <rsk> AHAHAHA
[13:34] <LeGreffi3R> \o/
[13:34] <Enselic> bjoich: in order for you to compile a C++ source file, you need to tell the compiler where to find include files
[13:34] <bjoich> ok if i want to compile botnet for irc
[13:35] <Enselic> bjoich: um ok you were right, I will ignore you
[13:35] <bjoich> Enselic: how can i do that ?
[13:35] <ew90573> omg
[13:35] <ikonia> bjoich: that is not a straight forward process
[13:35] <bjoich> Enselic: lal i told ya.
[13:35] <rich__> does that help?
[13:35] <bjoich> i know
[13:35] <zobban> i converted a movie from .avi to mpeg the quaility is low what to do
[13:35] <Drainman> !repeat | zobban
[13:35] <ubotu> zobban: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:35] <Drainman> :)
[13:36] <Sinister> im trying to install bitpim it says a older version is in a software channel what does that mean ?
[13:36] <jarnos> Hi!
[13:36] <ikonia> zobban: you've converted a movie, that by essence will change the quality
[13:36] <rich__> Wols, does that help?
[13:36] <ikonia> zobban: look at the options tools you used to convert
[13:36] <wols_> rich__: since you didn't DO anything: you not doing anything doesn't help
[13:37] <zobban> yes i converted from .avi to mpg but the mpg quaility is not good
[13:37] <Drainman> zobban: what args did you give ffmpeg??
[13:37] <zobban> ffmpeg -i "21.DEA GIGA SHOW 2008.avi"  hasani.mpg but the quaility is not so good on mpg file
[13:37] <rich__> i have pasted it to you
[13:37] <rich__> i cant flood the channel
[13:38] <ikonia> zobban: you have likley lowered the quality during converion
[13:38] <Myrtti> !paste | rich__
[13:38] <ubotu> rich__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:38] <jarnos> What package should you install to get volume control applet in panel?
[13:38] <zobban> so what to do
[13:38] <wols_> rich__: a) you haven't  and b) there are pastebins out there
[13:38] <wols_> !paste | rich__
[13:38] <rich__> !paste
[13:38] <Enselic> zobban: tweak the encoding parameters
[13:38] <rich__> !paste | rich__
[13:38] <ikonia> zobban: re-convert it from the origional file paying better attentions to the options you use
[13:39] <rich__> /dev/mapper/host-root on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[13:39] <rich__> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[13:39] <rich__> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[13:39] <rich__> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[13:39] <rich__> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[13:39] <rich__> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[13:39] <rich__> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[13:39] <rich__> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[13:39] <wols_> rich__: you are not identified to services, you cannot /msg anyone
[13:39] <zobban> which option to use to get good quaility
[13:39] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[13:39] <th0r> wols_  I don't think he understands <smile>
[13:39] <ikonia> Myrtti: I had hope.....
[13:40] <Enselic> zobban: the homepage of ffmpeg has a FAQ entry for that
[13:40] <MikeH> Any gimp users in here know if theres a photoshop style point to point lasso function?
[13:40] <Myrtti> MikeH: sure, it's called paths
[13:41] <Enselic> MikeH: you mean a polygonal selection tool?
[13:41] <Myrtti> that too
[13:41] <ikonia> MikeH: join #gimp
[13:41] <s[VV]itch> which is the best download master for gnome ????
[13:41] <GHOST> H3LlO eVeRY80dy
[13:41] <ikonia> MikeH: you'll get better specific help for apps from specific app channels
[13:41] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50256/
[13:41] <PriceChild> !leet | GHOST
[13:41] <ubotu> GHOST: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[13:41] <Enselic> MikeH: I have written a primary patch that adds a polygonal selection tool, but you need to compile gimp to get it
[13:41] <s[VV]itch> which is the best download master for gnome with GUI ???
[13:41] <zobban> that was not help go to ffmpeg site
[13:41] <Enselic> MikeH: but yeah, for gimp specific stuff, #gimp @ irc.gimp.org is much better
[13:41] <GHOST> !leet
[13:42] <zobban> i can allso do man ffmeg but i dunno which is the best converter
[13:42] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[13:42] <ikonia> GHOST: you've just seem him do that, you don't need to try to do it again
[13:42] <GHOST> just curious ;)
[13:42] <Myrtti> !paste | rich__
[13:42] <ubotu> rich__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:42] <Myrtti> !paste > rich__
[13:42] <Drainman> zobban: try devede or somethinf
[13:42] <ikonia> GHOST: why are you curious, you've just read it
[13:42] <zobban> i will try avidemux
[13:43] <ikonia> GHOST: it doesn't change the second or third times you call the factoid
[13:43] <MikeH> Enselic, Is yours the only solution?
[13:43] <Drainman> zobban: sounds like a good idea
[13:43] <GHOST> lol what ok
[13:43] <GHOST> im gone
[13:43] <dumnut> hi, i am just a newbie and installed ubuntu but don't know how to install other programs so i'd like to go back to wndows, but at startup although i went into bois to boot from cd it just continue to boot ubuntu from harddrive, as i am in ubuntu now, what commands i give to go to windows boot disk in my cd drive?
[13:43] <Enselic> MikeH: yes there is no polygonal selection tool in GIMP currently, there might be one in GIMP 2.6
[13:43] <zobban> yes i will convert as svcd is that good quaility converter drainman
[13:43] <PriceChild> !windows | dumnut
[13:43] <ubotu> dumnut: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[13:43] <GHOST> dumnut do u have grub installed?
[13:44] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50258/
[13:44] <Drainman> zobban: it aint dvd quality but itll work
[13:44] <zobban> no i dont want dvd quaility i just want to have same quaility as the .avi
[13:44] <dumnut> ubotu thank-you for your tips.
[13:44] <GHOST> ist a bot :)
[13:44] <wols_> zobban: not possible
[13:44] <Drainman> you wont get it if you compress it to svcd
[13:45] <zobban> so how can i get this .avi to convert to a good quaility so i can watch it on my dvd player
[13:45] <hexer> русские есть )
[13:45] <Enselic> zobban: _read the manual of ffmpeg and the docs at he ffmpeg site_
[13:45] <Drainman> zobban: i would say either dvd or svcd
[13:46] <rich__> !paste
[13:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:46] <rich__> !paste | rcih__
[13:46] <ubotu> rcih__: please see above
[13:46] <dumnut> GHOST i ijstalled 7.10 ubuntu and assume grub is included?
[13:46] <rich__> !paste | rich__
[13:46] <ikonia> rich__: you've done the paste factoid like 10 times now
[13:46] <Enselic> rich__: stop doing that please
[13:46] <MikeH> Enselic, how do I aquire your patch then :)
[13:46] <ikonia> rich__: if you can't read it by now, you'll never get it
[13:46] <digitalkaoz> bei mir kommt nix
[13:47] <digitalkaoz> fc ^^
[13:47] <ikonia> !de > digitalkaoz
[13:47] <rich__> here is my URL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50258/
[13:47] <dumnut> i just want to know when igo to konsole what commans to boot up the windows disk in my cd drive.
[13:47] <zobban> yes i am readin on ffmeg i can not find anything usefull
[13:47] <PriceChild> dumnut, support in ##windows for windows
[13:47] <Enselic> MikeH: it's in here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119646
[13:47] <wols_> dumnut: you cannot boot windows from inside ubuntu
[13:47] <dumnut> PriceChild thank-you for tip, will do.
[13:48] <ikonia> rich__: what do you actually want
[13:48] <wols_> ikonia: make a xfs filesystem
[13:48] <dumnut> wols_ oh ok.
[13:48] <javb> Hi, i will install ubuntu 7.10.. (have 7.04) on my laptop. I have /home in another partition than /, so, what i`m going to do is to let /home intact (to save all my files), but when i did this long time ago, there were remains of programs, profiles and config there... hidden in /home... how can make a clean install of ubuntu without erasing /home ? any idea?
[13:48] <rich__> ikonia, i want to be able to create a filesystem on my external hard disk, it says that it is busy
[13:48] <ikonia> wols_: I don't understand what is problem is ? why am I seeing a mount output
[13:48] <zobban> http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html  this is whati  find and it does not say anything about quaility pictures
[13:48] <ikonia> rich__: oooh right, which is your external disk on that output
[13:48] <RickX> can someone tell me how to disable sudo for user accounts?
[13:48] <Enselic> zobban: that FAQ tells you
[13:49] <rich__> its not on there, it isnt mounted
[13:49] <wols_> ikonia: I wanted to know if ubuntu automatically mounts his external hdd cause it mkfs says "device busy"
[13:49] <rich__> i can created the partition, but when i try to create a FS it says device is in use or busy.
[13:49] <ikonia> RickX: sudo is disabled for all users not in the admin group
[13:49] <ikonia> wols_: I understand, I also understand this users attitude.
[13:49] <wols_> ikonia: what attitude do you mean?
[13:49] <alol> digi
[13:50] <ikonia> wols_: now now now now now now, I want I want I want
[13:50] <zobban> can i convert a .avi file to mpg with good quaility picture
[13:50] <ikonia> rich__: what device are you trying to create a file system on
[13:50] <wols_> zobban: use mpeg2. and it will be quite a lot bigger than the original avi
[13:50] <Enselic> zobban: asking that question 3000 times will not make you smarter, just read for yourself
[13:50]  * Enselic starts to get annoyed
[13:50] <rich__> on a Freeagent 500gb external hard disk drive
[13:50] <enyc> zobban: maybe but you likely end up with a huge file if you are creating an mpeg1 from a better codec ;-)
[13:51] <Drainman> zobban: http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC9 there you have the default that ffmpeg sets
[13:51] <ikonia> rich__: what command are you using to make the filesystem, exactly what command
[13:51] <RickX> ikonia, then is the first user added to the system the only one automatically added to the admin group?
[13:51] <rich__> mkds.xfs /dev/sde1 -L 500GB
[13:51] <zobban> yes i am readin but i donno if the quaility will be good
[13:51] <rich__> mkfs.xfs /dev/sde1 -L 500GB
[13:51] <ikonia> RickX: correct
[13:51] <enyc> zobban: try it then ;-)  or ask in channels about the program you are using to do the encoding
[13:52] <ikonia> rich__: please show me the otupit of disk -l /dev/sde in a pastebin
[13:52] <wols_> rich__: are you root?
[13:52] <rich__> sure
[13:52] <zobban> i allready tryied with this option and i get low quaility
[13:52] <Drainman> zobban: then if you dont want to play around then use a program like devede aviddemux kino(maybe)
[13:52] <rich__> yes i am root
[13:52] <RickX> ikonia, thanks. I'll look around some more.
[13:52] <zobban> ffmpeg -i "21.DEA GIGA SHOW 2008.avi"  hasani.mpg  i tried this option the quaility is LOW
[13:52] <wols_> rich__: before it was /dev/sdc1...
[13:53] <Drainman> zobban: yes then you have to change the command :)
[13:54] <fsckr> have a happy new years all ubuntuers :)
[13:54] <Drainman> zobban: ffmpeg sets the bitrate to 200 by default wich is pretty low
[13:54] <zobban> Same example using same quality as source:
[13:54] <zobban> $ ffmpeg -i myfile.avi -sameq -target vcd /tmp/vcd.mpg
[13:54] <zobban> is this better option
[13:54] <Sinister> im trying to install bitpim it says a older version is in a software channel what does that mean ?
[13:54] <Enselic> zobban: this isn't an ubuntu question, you will get better help at the ffmpeg mailng list
[13:54] <Drainman> try you can use  -vframes number to only do a couple of frames
[13:54] <zobban> ohh if you dont want to help you dont need to answer ok
[13:55] <rich__> it shows nothing, i have pasted my dmesg output.
[13:55] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50259/
[13:55] <Drainman> lol! dont be rude
[13:55] <ikonia> wols_: thought, it this disk part of his fakeraid partition that appears to be mounted on root ?
[13:55] <zobban> so whats the best ffmpg option drainman
[13:55] <ikonia> zobban: no - this is not an ubuntu question
[13:55] <feanorek> how to change the bootsplash ?
[13:56] <Pici> !usplash | feanorek
[13:56] <ubotu> feanorek: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[13:56] <ikonia> zobban: take it to an ffmpeg support arena
[13:56] <zobban> this program is on ubuntu
[13:56] <ikonia> zobban: you've got some great advice in here to get you started now progress it through the correct channels
[13:56] <roderik> I'm trying to package a program to put in a ppa that depends on libdvdread3, but my pbuilder keeps telling that libdvdread, libdvdread3, libdevread-dev and libdvdread3-dev are virtual packages. Does anyone have an idea what package to use?
[13:56] <ikonia> zobban: but it is NOTHING to do with ubuntu
[13:56] <zobban> so its a ubuntu question
[13:56] <zobban> yes it does
[13:56] <ikonia> zobban: no - it's not and you know it
[13:56] <Pici> zobban: Try asking in #ffmpeg, they'll know better that us.
[13:56] <wols_> ikonia:doubt it. or he had BIG problems booting :)
[13:56] <Myrtti> zobban: and you've gotten plenty of help as far as we can do it
[13:56] <ikonia> wols_: just a thought
[13:56] <robertj_> has anyone observed windows not updating properly with compiz using the packaged non-free nvidia drivers?
[13:57] <Myrtti> zobban: if the help you've been given here doesn't do the trick, you should move on to more advanced venues
[13:57] <robertj_> it will work fine for a few days sometimes and then I have to kill compiz to get things to draw properly
[13:57] <wols_> ikonia: it'S a seagate. it went into power save mode and linux can't wake it up anymore I think.
[13:57] <Pici> zobban: We're trying to help you, but you arent satisfied with our answers, perhaps try asking people who know more than us, in #ffmpeg
[13:57] <ikonia> wols_: sounds interesting
[13:57] <ikonia> robertj_: there are some issues with re-draw on some specific 8600 cards as I recall
[13:57] <Drainman> zobban: see PM
[13:57] <wols_> ikonia: was over the news before xmas. seagate shipping a not linux compatible external harddisk
[13:58] <ikonia> wols_: didn't read that
[13:58] <wols_> ikonia: the workaround was baically to disable powersaving I think. totally crap hardware basically
[13:59] <dumnut> i want to run my cd in cd drive, what directory i go to and what command i give there?
[13:59] <wols_> dumnut: what is on the DC?
[13:59] <wols_> *CD
[14:00] <dumnut> wols_ windows xp os.
[14:00] <wols_> dumnut: you've been told before it's not possible and ot here. doN#t you ever read?
[14:01] <wols_> dumnut: you put in the CD and reboot
[14:01] <shenron_> hi, if I accidentally deleted both gnome panels how would I get them back?
[14:01] <Pici> dumnut: Unless you plan on installing XP inside of a virtual machine, mounting it inside linux is not going to do you any good.
[14:01] <Pici> !panelreset | shenron_
[14:01] <ubotu> shenron_: To reset the GNOME panels back to their defaults, delete ~/.gconf/apps/panel/ , log out, then back in.
[14:02] <shenron_> ah thanks
[14:02] <dumnut> wols_ yes i remember that. but i would think ubuntu would allow somehow for a person who loaeded ubuntu in to change his mind to go back to windows.
[14:02] <Ximal> how do I get or download smartsuite ? i have smartmontools though would like a frontend to go with ;)
[14:02] <wols_> dumnut: yes. you put in the windows CD and boot from it and then install
[14:02] <dumnut> Pici goodd point
[14:02] <Pici> dumnut: It doesn't work like that, sorry.
[14:02] <qwerty121> hi all! does perl come with gutsy?
[14:02] <rich__> how do you know that it is in powersave mode? thanks for endorsing my hardware wols
[14:02] <Enselic> qwerty121: yes
[14:03] <qwerty121> Enselic, thanks
[14:03] <dumnut> woIs_ i tried that on bootup to f2 then specify booting from cd drive but it kept going to harddrive ubuntu.
[14:03] <Enselic> qwerty121: if not, you would just have to   sudo apt-get install perl
[14:03] <flush> yo
[14:03] <Drainman> dumnut: then your stuck with lijnux YEY for you :P
[14:03] <pelle2004> On 7.01 Srv, what do I need to put system to sleep/pwr-off, acpi?, sleepd? or What?
[14:03] <qwerty121> Enselic, actually i downloaded a package.
[14:03] <wols_> dumnut: for the LAST time, you being unable to use your BIOS properly or burn a Windows CD properly is not a topic for #ubuntu. please go with your windows and hardware trouble elsewhere
[14:04] <dumnut> Pici that ok, it's neat way to encourage a guy to stay in ubuntu and learn it, i ḿ old (43) and just want to be able to use coputer for my work.
[14:04] <qwerty121> Enselic, should i install it from there?
[14:04] <Enselic> qwerty121: what package did you download?
[14:04] <dumnut> will do, sorry for the bother.
[14:04] <Pici> pelle2004: To shutdown?
[14:04] <qwerty121> Enselic, perl5.10.0.tar.gz
[14:05] <shishio> anyone knows if ubuntu has a system restore?
[14:05] <Pici> shishio: It does not.
[14:05] <Enselic> qwerty121: as good as all linux distros already have perl for them, so you dont need to manually download and install
[14:05] <shishio> Pici. that sucks
[14:05] <pelle2004> Pici: Need to shut down system when there is no activity on the server for a spec time. 1-2 houres
[14:05] <qwerty121> Enselic, okay
[14:06] <qwerty121> Enselic, can you link me to a good book that teaches me perl?
[14:06] <wols_> qwerty121: installing a foreign perl into a debian based distro is usually a very bad idea
[14:06] <Enselic> qwerty121: I would advice you to learn Python instead
[14:06] <wols_> qwerty121: learning perl from o'reilly
[14:06] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know how to turn off /tmp clearing in ubuntu? what is doing this on reboot
[14:06] <hgraey> shishio: after a good install, boot from a live cd like knoppix and use partimage for a no-tears backup, or use one of the gazillion incremental file backup tools :)
[14:07] <Enselic> qwerty121: unless you specifically wanna learn perl for some reason
[14:07] <wols_> UBUNTUISLOVED: bootmisc.sh probably
[14:07] <qwerty121> wols_, sorry i dint know
[14:07] <jamescarr> what does this mean?
[14:07] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: Dont put stuff in /tmp, it needs to be cleared on reboot. Changing this functionality will have unexpected results.
[14:07] <bazhang> shishio: use rsync/time machine
[14:07] <jamescarr> (nautilus:25119): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Could not open network socket.
[14:07] <wols_> qwerty121: dpkg depends on perl and if perl is messed up, no more installing or removing packages
[14:07] <jamescarr> this began randomly happening
[14:07] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Pici i like to be in control
[14:07] <jamescarr> nautilis will not start up
[14:07] <qwerty121> Enselic, no specific reason. just finished with javascrript. thought about learning a new one
[14:07] <UBUNTUISLOVED> why does it need clearing?
[14:07] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: So? /tmp is designed to be cleared on reboot.
[14:08] <shishio> bazhang: where can i get those?
[14:08] <bazhang> !info rsync | shishio
[14:08] <ubotu> shishio: rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[14:08] <Drainman> mpc next
[14:08] <Drainman> oops sry
[14:08] <rich__> the beautiful thing is that i have deleted the partition so i cant use the software anymore to disable powersaving
[14:08] <slestak> does anyone know what parm in xorg.conf will let me shrink the desktop by maybe 5%.  The resolution is fine, but the furthest extents of the desktop is cutoff
[14:08] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Pici:  but why?
[14:09] <shishio> bazhang: can u tell me where can i get those time machine things?
[14:09] <slestak> this is not on a monitor, but a 32" hdtv via hdmi cable, so I do not have the typical monitor adjustment controls
[14:09] <kbrooks> UBUNTUISLOVED, /tmp is a temporary folder. it is not meant for permanent use.
[14:10] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: This isnt like windows, user temporary things usually get stuck in your user's home folder somewhere.  /tmp is for stuff you shouldnt touch, like application locks. You want those to dissapear when you reboot.
[14:10] <xoel> org
[14:11] <UBUNTUISLOVED> kbrooks: i know but i like to store some things there until i decide i want to delete /tmp
[14:11] <wols_> UBUNTUISLOVED: mkdir ~/tmp
[14:11] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: I suggest you find a new place to stick stuff instead of /tmp
[14:11] <kbrooks> UBUNTUISLOVED, see pici: put these things in your folder
[14:11] <slestak> UBUNTUISLOVED: why not mahe a tmp in /home/$user
[14:11] <bazhang> http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/timevault-time-machine-for-linux-275399.php shishio
[14:11] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ok got it i guess i'll live with it
[14:11] <wols_> UBUNTUISLOVED: your user has NO business creating any file outside his ~. Linux is a real multiuser OS not a wannabe one
[14:11] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i just like /tmp
[14:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> wols_: ok i'll use /tmp in my home directory good idea
[14:12] <Pici> UBUNTUISLOVED: This is like putting files in the trashcan by your desk and wondering why every morning your files are gone.
[14:12] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi.  Server question.  Is there an ubuntu analogue to Chkconfig, and/or a man page that explains the startup logic there?  Thanks in advance, ellie.
[14:12] <kbrooks> UBUNTUISLOVED, maybe you're confusing yourself with how you phrase things, but OK
[14:12] <th0r> nerdygirl_ellie check man bash...I think that covers startup
[14:13] <UBUNTUISLOVED> kbrooks: thanks i got it
[14:13] <Pici> nerdygirl_ellie: For stopping/starting/configuring services?
[14:13] <Pici> th0r: er, not really.
[14:13] <th0r> nerdygirl_ellie and check for a package I think is called 'debian policy' or something like that....it is available via synaptic
[14:13] <nerdygirl_ellie> Pici: Yes, for stopping and starting services.
[14:14] <nerdygirl_ellie> Many thanks.
[14:14] <Pici> nerdygirl_ellie: You'll want to look at the manpages for update-rc.d, invoke-rc.d and also look at the following info.
[14:14] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault shishio
[14:14] <Pici> !boot | nerdygirl_ellie
[14:14] <ubotu> nerdygirl_ellie: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[14:15] <kbrooks> question
[14:16] <nerdygirl_ellie> Pici: update-rc.d  that's it!  thanks.  (makes post it note so she doesn't have to ask AGAIN....)
[14:17] <Some_Person> Is libdvdread3 illegal in the United States?
[14:17] <wols_> Some_Person: yes
[14:17] <th0r> Pici: be careful with the word 'no'...all those things and more are covered in the two references.
[14:18] <kbrooks> Some_Person, no...
[14:18] <wols_> kbrooks: what about the DMCA then?
[14:18] <kbrooks> Some_Person, libdvdcss2 may or may not be illegal. we are not lawyers.
[14:18] <Pici> th0r: Perhaps I misunderstood your answer then, apologies.
[14:18] <kbrooks> wols_, libdvdread3 is not libdvdcss2
[14:18] <bazhang> I thought it was libdvdcss2 that was of questionable provenance
[14:19] <wols_> what is libdvdread3 then?
[14:19] <kbrooks> !info libdvdread3
[14:19] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 56 kB, installed size 192 kB
[14:19] <hgraey> it's not questionable if you don't ask ;)
[14:19] <Some_Person> Hang on, which packages would I install to be able to play a commercial dvd, and what is the legality of these packages?
[14:19] <kbrooks> wols_, it has a script that downloads libdvdcss2 apparently
[14:20] <kbrooks> wols_, i think making a script is legal, but running it is not
[14:20] <kbrooks> Some_Person, but again, we are not lawyers
[14:20] <wols_> !dvd | Some_Person
[14:20] <ubotu> Some_Person: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:21] <wols_> Some_Person: they are simply illegal in the US
[14:21] <Some_Person> Also, why are they illegal?
[14:21] <kbrooks> i'm not in the US but I do not have a mixed CD/DVD drive on this old laptop.
[14:21] <wols_> cause the DMCA was bought and paid for by certain industries
[14:22] <kbrooks> Some_Person, i am not a lawyer, but the DMCA is the reaason why
[14:22] <Pici> Some_Person: This isn't really ontopic for this channel, read up on DeCSS here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS , further discussion can be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:22] <wols_> kbrooks: thanks due to the EUCD it is illegal in the EU too btw
[14:22] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:22] <Some_Person> Thanks for the link
[14:22] <kbrooks> wols_, i'm not in the EU
[14:22] <kbrooks> wols_, i'm in canada
[14:22] <Pici> kbrooks: offtopic.
[14:23] <bazhang> heh
[14:23] <kbrooks> Pici, i was simply clarifying for him, and i think we will get back to ubuntu
[14:23] <spock1> hi
[14:23] <Pici> np :)
[14:23] <Whyvas> wtf, distrowatch charges for ubuntu cds, what the hell?
[14:23] <Some_Person> Whyvas: Use shipit
[14:23] <signal9> Read the GNU license, and all will become clear
[14:24] <KATE_SLATKA> JGHGIHTJ
[14:24] <KATE_SLATKA> GVKIHJHJGJHUHJG
[14:24] <hgraey> in my country it's illegal to circumvent a digital copy protection scheme on digital medium, while analogue copy of the content is ok for private use. so it might be illegal to use libdvdcss to grab a digital copy, but it might be legal to use it to read, convert to analogue and record that digitally. should i understand or care? i think not.
[14:24] <Whyvas> hey 12 year old
[14:24] <Some_Person> KATE_SLATKA: stop spamming
[14:24] <bazhang> KATE_SLATKA: please stop
[14:24] <kbrooks> hgraey, please take to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <Some_Person> hgraey: that topic is over, i just wanted clarification
[14:25] <hgraey> sorry, was just a belated answer to Some_Person
[14:25] <kbrooks> Whyvas, not DW
[14:25] <bazhang> Whyvas: get them from shipit.com
[14:25] <Pici> !shipit | Whyvas
[14:25] <ubotu> Whyvas: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[14:26] <xushi> hi all
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> BNNHNNN
[14:26] <kbrooks> Whyvas, it is legal to sell a Ubuntu CD.
[14:26] <xushi> My pavillion dv9000 has an nvidia Geforce 8600M GS graphics card in it. I'm confused to which nvidia drivers i should install.. The normal one, or the "new" one?
[14:26] <bazhang> KATE_SLATKA_13: please stop
[14:26] <Whyvas> I know they send the CD's for free, hence why I am asking how distrowatch can charge for them..... jesus.
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> IYRUYUFHUY
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> IGUJIJGHJ
[14:26] <bazhang> Whyvas: that is an ad for something else
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> G
[14:26] <Juhaz> !ops
[14:26] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[14:26] <KATE_SLATKA_13> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[14:26] <bazhang> bye
[14:27] <Chousuke> :P
[14:27] <LukeL> lol
[14:27] <Some_Person> KATE_SLATKA_13: stop spamming
[14:27] <Some_Person> nevermind
[14:27] <kbrooks> Whyvas, they can charge for them because they, like a user of Ubuntu, are permitted to under the applicable licenses
[14:27] <xushi> just /ignore him
[14:27] <NewUbuntuFan> k, just got back from using Kubuntu for the first time...was too slow for some reason, I guess it'll be Gnome all the day
[14:28] <NewUbuntuFan> er..way
[14:28] <kbrooks> Whyvas, they are not permitted to overcharge for the source (if they sell it).
[14:28] <neur1> anyone using e17?
[14:28] <Chousuke> kbrooks: overcharge? :P
[14:28] <Whyvas> kbrooks, yes, the point I am getting to is I hope people arn't stupid enough to pay for them.
[14:29] <bazhang> neur1: have done so, yes
[14:29] <kbrooks> Chousuke, under the GNU GPL, you are only allowed to sell source code at reasonable delivery expenses
[14:29] <Chousuke> if they sell you the binary, they must provide you the source code for at most the price of the media needed.
[14:29] <Some_Person> You'd be very stupid to pay for them, when you can get free ones from ShipIt
[14:29] <kbrooks> Chousuke, oh i mixed them up
[14:29] <Chousuke> you don't really sell the source code of GPL programs.
[14:29] <xushi> My pavillion dv9000 has an nvidia Geforce 8600M GS graphics card in it. I'm confused to which nvidia drivers i should install.. The normal one, or the "new" one?
[14:29] <Chousuke> it's just something you have to provide if you sell the binaries :)
[14:29] <neur1> can i add the nm applet somewhere?
[14:29] <kbrooks> Chousuke, canonical provides source for that yeah
[14:30] <bazhang> neur1: certainly
[14:30] <Some_Person> xushi: Run the Restricted Driver manager
[14:30] <Pici> Software licensing talk -> #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[14:30] <erUSUL> kbrooks: you can seel the "container medium" at whatever price you want. You can not sell the source becouse it is not yours ;)
[14:30] <xushi> Some_Person: thanks
[14:30] <kbrooks> Chousuke, you don't have to put the source on the exact same CD ... anyway, offtopic
[14:30] <NewUbuntuFan> so is Canonical like the puppet master or something?
[14:30] <kbrooks> Pici, thx
[14:30] <neur1> like to a shelf . . . where's the option?
[14:30] <Pici> NewUbuntuFan: Canonical is the company that funds Ubuntu and also provides commercial support.
[14:30] <bazhang> oy offtopic already
[14:31] <NewUbuntuFan> well, I know that much...but if they cut funding, how bad would that be? :/
[14:31] <kbrooks> NewUbuntuFan, they will not cut funding
[14:31] <hgraey> not very. there's a foundation in place as a safety net
[14:31] <hgraey> (see ubuntu website)
[14:31] <PriceChild> NewUbuntuFan, there is 10 million in the "ubuntu foundation" incase.
[14:32] <PriceChild> NewUbuntuFan, £ not $
[14:32] <NewUbuntuFan> ah, k that is good to know
[14:32] <neur1> it's not in the list of gadgets so do i need to make one?
[14:32] <Whyvas> CH-CH-CH-CHIA!
[14:33] <bazhang> neur1: you using geubuntu or gOS?
[14:33] <neur1> xubuntu
[14:33] <Some_Person> neur1: go to #xubuntu
[14:33] <bazhang> neur1: with e17?
[14:33] <neur1> i did
[14:34] <neur1> yup
[14:34] <bazhang> hmm
[14:34] <neur1> added all repos then installed
[14:34] <orapronobis> I own a Mac and I use Mac OS X Leopard. I'm thinking that perhaps I should diss Leopard, and get Ubuntu instead. What are good reasons for me to install Ubuntu rather than keep going with the Mac? Non-religious reasons, of course.
[14:34] <xushi> why not both through parrallels ?
[14:35] <orapronobis> xushi: parallels is sluggish
[14:35] <bazhang> orapronobis: or vmware fusion
[14:35] <hgraey> orapronobis: more free software, i guess
[14:35] <orapronobis> bazhang: I'd love a native solution.
[14:35] <orapronobis> hgraey: that's a good point.
[14:35] <rich__> it still says cannot open device or resource busy
[14:36] <bazhang> orapronobis: nothing stopping you--best to dual boot imo
[14:36] <wols_> rich__: as long as you get these tons of errors in your kernel log this won't change
[14:36] <orapronobis> bazhang: dual boot is technically very hard with ubuntu
[14:36] <MDM99> hey how do I install the local DNS server like TreeWalk for Windows?
[14:37] <sirAndrew> hello
[14:37] <neur1> bazhang thanks
[14:37] <tiredbones> I have Custy installed. I notice that after surfing the net in firefox that if I want to go back to the previous page and the previous page icon is not highlighted, then I use the window's close button. But when I do this I am  to close all tab. I then have to relaunch firefox. What do I have to do to fix this?
[14:37] <rich__> no more errors boss
[14:37] <sirAndrew> is anyone kind enough to tell me from where can i get x windows...or something like that?
[14:37] <hgraey> orapronobis: doesn't mac have that neat bootcamp thing that can peacefully coexist with grub?
[14:37] <hgraey> rich__: is the device unmounted?
[14:37] <rich__> yes
[14:37] <bazhang> orapronobis: not really--need a link? what is it macbook?
[14:37] <Pici> sirAndrew: If you installed Ubuntu (not Ubuntu-server) it has xwindows installed already.
[14:37] <EvaLuaTe> hello, how could i install oom_kill ? ain't it in the repository list ?
[14:38] <hgraey> what was it again, usb stick?
[14:38] <Whyvas> bazhang, what is hard about dual booting?
[14:38] <orapronobis> bazhang: yes, that would be really appreciated. I have a MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo Santa Rosa)
[14:38] <rich__> 500gb disk
[14:38] <Whyvas> errr sorry
[14:38] <sirAndrew> ok so then why won`t the yahoo messenger debian version get installed?
[14:38] <hgraey> rich__:  oh, the seagate one?
[14:38] <Whyvas> orapronobis, , what is hard about dual booting?
[14:38] <bazhang> Whyvas: not me saying it was...
[14:38] <sirAndrew> says someting about dependencies and xlibs
[14:38] <rich__> i just attached it to windows, ran the software to disable powersaving and then recreated a linux partition and am now trying to create FS
[14:38] <Pici> !xlibs | sirAndrew
[14:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:38] <Pici> er
[14:39] <pteague_work> anybody know why i'm getting the error message "ifdown: interface eth1 not configured" when i try to disconnect my wireless network?
[14:39] <Pici> !xincludes | sirAndrew
[14:39] <ubotu> sirAndrew: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[14:39] <leandro> hi, I'd like to use the svideo out with my sis chipset, anyone here could help me?! Does xinerama helps?
[14:40] <MDM99> is bind9 the equivalent of TreeWalk for Linux?
[14:40] <sirAndrew> i installed xlibs-static-dev but i couldn`t find xorg-dev and xlibs-dev
[14:40] <Pici> !xlibs is <alias> xincludes
[14:40] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[14:40] <rocks_n_stones21> #gos
[14:40] <Pici> sirAndrew: Okay, thats fine, try your other install again.
[14:40] <hgraey> rich__: if it really is the buggy seagate thing i can't help, sorry. haven't been following the discussion about those
[14:40] <sirAndrew> i tried...it gives me the same error
[14:41] <Pici> sirAndrew: What is the exact error?
[14:41] <rich__> no worries thanks for trying
[14:41] <orapronobis> Whyvas: I thought it was. bazhang may have a link to help me out though. I'd like ubuntu especially for programming and contributing to open source
[14:41] <Task> Hey... I am trying to move some files but it says I dont have permision... how do I logon as owner to move them?
[14:41] <Whyvas> orapronobis, it is really simple to do.
[14:41] <sirAndrew> error: dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs
[14:42] <Whyvas> theme manager for ubuntu?
[14:42] <Pici> sirAndrew: try xlibs-data
[14:42] <Pici> Whyvas: In gnome: System>Preferences>Appearance
[14:42] <sirAndrew> lol, i tried that too :D
[14:42] <proximo> can someone just confirm that they can read this ? (testing irssi for the first time ever =P )
[14:43] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro/SantaRosa orapronobis
[14:43] <vox> proximo: yes
[14:43] <Task> AnyonE? How do I aquire access to move files? right now it says I dont have permission
[14:43] <proximo> thanks =)
[14:43] <Pici> Task: Use sudo if they aren't your files.
[14:43] <Pici> !sudo | Task
[14:43] <ubotu> Task: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[14:43] <Task> kk
[14:43] <Whyvas> Pici, I was in there but it doesn't have many choices, I seem to recall one that would go out and download a shitload for you back in feisty
[14:43] <Pici> !ohmy | Whyvas
[14:43] <ubotu> Whyvas: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:44] <Whyvas> ....
[14:44] <QuaLa> hi!!
[14:44] <orapronobis> thanks bazhang, I'll give it a go
[14:44] <Pici> Whyvas: Thats in the gnome-art package.
[14:44] <bazhang> no worries
[14:44] <QuaLa> selamun aleykum
[14:45] <Pici> !tr | QuaLa
[14:45] <ubotu> QuaLa: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[14:45] <Whyvas> hmmm, don't think that was it but I will give it a try
[14:45] <QuaLa> thanks Pici
[14:46] <robertj_> ikonia: re: the Nvidia 8600 redraw issue, do you know any more specifics, bug#, google juice? This is on a Quadra that is essentially an 8600 I believe
[14:46] <sirAndrew> Pici, got anymore ideas i could try?
[14:46] <Whyvas> not there in gutsy Pici ?
[14:46] <Isamu> Bonjour les gens :p
[14:47] <tiredbones> I have Custy installed. I notice that after surfing the net in firefox that if I want to go back to the previous page and the previous page icon is not highlighted, then I use the window's close button. But when I do this I am  ask to close all tab. I then have to relaunch firefox. What do I have to do to fix this?
[14:47] <Whyvas> Bonjour la femme
[14:47] <KiD_ChAoS> how do i restart the sound service
[14:47] <beertank> ver irc.ugirc.net
[14:47] <Isamu> Isamu est un pseudo masculin :(
[14:48] <KiD_ChAoS> how do i restart the sound service?
[14:48] <PriceChild> !fr | Isamu
[14:48] <ubotu> Isamu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:48] <Creationist> !fr
[14:48] <Creationist> oh
[14:48] <Isamu> ok
[14:48] <Isamu> bye
[14:48] <Pici> Whyvas: It should be... Its in universe, make sure you have that enabled.
[14:48] <bazhang> tiredbones: could you bookmark the page you want?
[14:48] <hgraey> you may stay if you prefer english :)
[14:49] <Creationist> tiredbones: The TabMixPlus extentions works wonders for such things :)
[14:49] <KiD_ChAoS> how do i restart the sound service?
[14:49] <KiD_ChAoS> how do i restart the sound service?
[14:49] <Creationist> !patience | KiD_ChAoS
[14:49] <ubotu> KiD_ChAoS: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:49] <slestak> puppt: i see you in pm
[14:49] <tiredbones> thanks, I'll look at that.
[14:50] <Whyvas> Pici, yeah I have it enabled, still don't see it.
[14:50] <tya> #join*
[14:50] <KiD_ChAoS> !patience | Creationist
[14:50] <ubotu> Creationist: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:50] <troythetechguy> I just did a clean upgrade to 7.10 (from 7.04), and I'm having some issues with my tty (F1-F6) - there are none.  Any ideas?
[14:50] <Whyvas> weird
[14:50] <dna_> greetings
[14:50] <bazhang> KiD_ChAoS: that reduces your chances of getting help
[14:50] <dna_> I just did a cd install of ubuntu feisty server
[14:51] <dna_> I was wondering if I could upgrade to gutsy but not have a server by just using apt-get commands?
[14:51] <KiD_ChAoS> sorry bazhang i figured it out
[14:51] <Creationist> KiD_ChAoS: That's what I was talking about
[14:51] <wols_> dna_: yes
[14:51] <ahmed> ممكن نتعرف على بنت حلوة   تحب السكس
[14:51] <Creationist> wow... arabic? lol
[14:51] <Creationist> I had no idea Ubuntu could display that
[14:52] <dna_> wols_: since I am in console mode what is the best way to access a sources.list could ubot do it for me?
[14:52] <KiD_ChAoS> Creationist, motive understood prior
[14:52] <wols_> dna_: "sudo nano"
[14:52] <th0r> Creationist ain't linux great...now you can get wrong answers in all languages and alphabets....even right-to-left
[14:52] <dna_> wols_: I just change feisty to gutsy right? then do sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:52] <Creationist> th0r: Just what I was looking for in a futuristic OS ;)
[14:52] <wols_> dna_: dist-upgrade
[14:53] <dna_> thanks
[14:53] <Anderson> I need some help with my xorg.conf regarding touchpad devices
[14:53] <predaeus> looks like xchat does not work well with arabic letters. If you highlight that text it goes all crazy.
[14:53] <Creationist> predaeus: Hmm... works flawlessly in Konversation.
[14:54] <Pici> dna_: No... thats not the recommended way to upgrade.
[14:54] <th0r> predaeus looks great in pidgin
[14:54] <Pici> !upgrade | dna_ please read
[14:54] <ubotu> dna_ please read: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:54] <Anderson> !xorg
[14:54] <tribaldata> Question : If i use a usb drive as storage(vfat) and there is a lot of I/O on it shoudl i defrag this even if he his running solely on Ubuntu ?
[14:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:54] <Creationist> tribaldata: Probably.
[14:54] <Anderson> !touchpad
[14:54] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[14:54] <wols_> tribaldata: yes. it's not windows that is crap it's the filesystem
[14:54] <Creationist> tribaldata: Fragmentation is a problem for the vfat filesystem when you use it in Linux or not.
[14:55] <dna_> Pici: I do not like going to websites while in console mode
[14:55] <tribaldata> Creationist: do you know a decent defrag for ubuntu ?
[14:55] <dna_> sorry
[14:55] <th0r> Anderson what are you trying to do?
[14:55] <Creationist> tribaldata: Heh, I actually don't know of any, sorry.
[14:55] <Creationist> !defrag
[14:55] <ubotu> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[14:55] <dna_> exit
[14:55] <tribaldata> Creationist: that's what i tought does the NTFS support is good in ubuntu ?
[14:56] <th0r> Anderson do you just want to enable/disable or is it not working at all?
[14:56] <Creationist> tribaldata: Depends on what you mean by "good."
[14:56] <Anderson> th0r, Well, my touchpad is not working correctly. WHen I touch it, it puts the mouse in a semi-unpredictable location and performs doubletap. Same for the touchscreen. I have tried a few different things, but none improved the sit
[14:56] <hgraey> about the Xorg restart, wouldn't it be easier to include the ctrl-alt-backspace in ubotu's answer?
[14:56] <wols_> troythetechguy: ntfs-3g works
[14:56] <tribaldata> lol
[14:56] <Creationist> tribaldata: ntfs-3g can read and write ntfs
[14:56] <orapronobis> does madwifi support WPA2?
[14:56] <th0r> Anderson give me a sec and I will pastebin my xorg.conf for you....might help
[14:56] <Anderson> th0r, And I have enables SHMConfig to try gsynaptics, but it still says SHMConfig is still disabled
[14:56] <tribaldata> Creationist: Well same scenario i use a external drive as storage should i format it and just run it in ext ?
[14:56] <Anderson> th0r, k
[14:57] <Anderson> th0r, I'll pastebin mine too
[14:57] <Creationist> tribaldata: ext3 is always better than vfat or ntfs.  Just make sure you don't need the device to be read by other operating systems.
[14:57] <Xera> Why do I have to reinstall the NVIDIA driver every time I reboot Ubuntu? :|
[14:57] <Some_Person> Xera: you shouldn't have to
[14:57] <Creationist> tribaldata: For example, if you format an SD card as ext3, your digital camera won't be able to use it.....
[14:57] <Xera> Well it comes up with the low graphics warning
[14:57] <tribaldata> Creationist: that was why i kept it in vfat but now i think is time to do the full conversion to ubuntu
[14:57] <Xera> Then I have to run the installer again
[14:57] <davero86> Does anyone know what package I need to view video clips online?
[14:58] <tribaldata> Creationist: thx for the info :)
[14:58] <th0r> Anderson http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50263/
[14:58] <MenZa> Depends on the tip of clips, davero86
[14:58] <MenZa> er
[14:58] <MenZa> type*
[14:58] <wols_> davero86: flashplugin most likely
[14:58] <hgraey> Xera, then your driver/resolution setting doesn't work and X reverts to failsafe mode
[14:58] <Creationist> davero86: Chances are they're flash
[14:58] <MenZa> !flash | davero86
[14:58] <ubotu> davero86: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:58] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:58] <xobius> davero86, in your browser?
[14:58] <Creationist> davero86: So you'd install flashplugin-nonfree, I think.
[14:58] <Xera> hgraey: it does work as I am using it right now :)
[14:58] <MenZa> Flash is broken.
[14:58] <davero86> i can view from utube but not from others...
[14:59] <xobius> davero86, divx videos?
[14:59] <Creationist> MenZa: Really ?  It works perfectly for me.
[14:59] <davero86> yes i installed flashplugin-nonfree
[14:59] <struo> Hello, I have a problem with sound on ubunut 7, all works except youtube (flash) that sound does not work using firefox, any idea how to fix it?
[14:59] <Anderson> th0r, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50265/
[14:59] <Creationist> davero86: Then try installing mozilla-mplayer
[14:59] <hgraey> Xera, that's beyond me then. only been using ubuntu since today myself :x
[14:59] <Creationist> davero86: That will play embedded videos.
[14:59] <th0r> Anderson do you have synclient installed?
[14:59] <Xera> hgraey: Ok
[14:59] <MenZa> Creationist: yes, but the package is broken. You can't install it right now.
[14:59] <davero86> i did that a few minutes ago
[14:59] <Anderson> th0r, something interesting to make note of, I have the touchscreen commented out, but it still pseudo-works in its broken way
[14:59] <rich__> for those of you that are thinking of buying a seagate external hard disk - think again, it doesnt work with gutsy at all
[14:59] <Creationist> MenZa: Oh, how did that happen?  I installed it a couple months ago when I installed Gutsy.
[14:59] <Anderson> th0r, I'll check
[15:00] <MenZa> Creationist: yeah, it's been broken for a couple of weeks or so. Adobe changed their package, so md5sums no longer match
[15:00] <Creationist> MenZa: Gotcha
[15:00] <th0r> Anderson well...I can see the problem already...mine is bigger than yours
[15:00] <MenZa> Creationist: It's a bit annoying, but there's nothing we can do until the suits decide it's an issue and fix it. :)
[15:00] <dou> how do i find out what version of a software i am running?
[15:01] <Anderson> th0r, k, I don't seem to have synclient installed either
[15:01] <MenZa> dou: depends on the software
[15:01] <th0r> Anderson check the section in my file for the Inputdevice
[15:01] <Anderson> th0r, i hope your reffering to my xorg.conf
[15:01] <MenZa> dou: often, applications have a -v or --version flag.
[15:01] <Creationist> MenZa: I personally think media-related issues should always be a #1 priority since that is what the majority of desktop users use their computers for.
[15:01] <MenZa> Creationist: it is. I'd like to continue discussing this, but can we do it in #ubuntu-offtopic, so as to not upset the rest of the traffic in here. :)?
[15:01] <Anderson> th0r, ah, looks like a lot of sensitivity and calibration info, copy paste?
[15:01] <th0r> Anderson don't know if synclient is in the ubuntu repos...I found it for my laptop (suse). But it would be worth getting the source and compiling...it will allow you to modify the touchpad parameters on the fly to determine what works
[15:01] <Creationist> MenZa: Eh, nothing else to really discuss.... just throwing out my half-cent opinion ;)
[15:02] <dou> MenZa, so if i want to find out what version of xchat im running i should just go *xchat --version*?
[15:02] <MenZa> True, true. :)
[15:02] <MenZa> dou: I'm not sure if xchat has such a flag. Moment.
[15:02] <th0r> Anderson you are welcome to cut and paste...but make a backup first!
[15:02] <MenZa> You're running 2.8.0, dou: [2007-31-12 16:02:18 CET]  [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from dou: xchat 2.8.0 Ubuntu
[15:02] <Creationist> dou: Doesn't Help -> About show it?
[15:02] <davero86> i am trying to view video clips from this website, but can't. http://hidebehind.com/browse.php#browse:amovies,new:1
[15:02] <Anderson> th0r, already got a backup. Any ideas about the touchscreen?
[15:03] <MenZa> davero86: please don't like content like that in here.
[15:03] <Creationist> davero86: And I was stupid enough to actually click it to try and help you view porn?
[15:03] <Anderson> th0r, why does yours say 5 button? fancy touchpad?
[15:03] <dou> MenZa, it worked with xchat , but the same command with amsn didnt work.isnt there a different way?
[15:03] <Creationist> davero86: Seriously, dude.  That's usually a problem people try to get discreet help with.
[15:03] <jeezers> karthick@ENIAC:~$ sudo apt-get build-essential
[15:03] <jeezers> E: Invalid operation build-essential  <--can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[15:03] <IdleOne> !ops | davero86 spamming porn links
[15:03] <ubotu> davero86 spamming porn links: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[15:03] <MenZa> jeezers: you need the "install" option.
[15:04] <th0r> Anderson It supports the scroll on the sides...if I drag my finger up and down the right edge or bottom edge it scrolls
[15:04] <Creationist> ....thank God my kids weren't in the room when that opened up.
[15:04] <MenZa> Good call, IdleOne
[15:04] <insane_alien> If i have a lvm volume followed immediatly by a second lvm volume what would i need to do to extend the first volume? soace on my root partition is becoming dangerously low
[15:04] <Creationist> ....and thank God I'm not using Windows and had to fight a thousand popups ;)
[15:04] <ruifeng> my name ruifeng
[15:04] <davero86> sorry, i found that on my kids computer and wanted to see how bad it was. my kid has a windows machine and mine is ubuntu
[15:04] <Anderson> th0r, seen that, pretty sweet
[15:04] <jeezers> sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[15:04] <MenZa> Creationist: hehehe
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jeezers: install build...
[15:04] <MenZa> jeezers: yup
 karthick@ENIAC:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:04] <jeezers> thanks!
[15:04] <carnageblood> hy all
[15:04] <th0r> Anderson synclient is supposed to be part of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics so you might have it and not know it....in a terminal try 'which synclient'
[15:05] <davero86> sorry about that i will leave
[15:05] <th0r> Anderson the scrolling is actually rather irritating after a while
[15:05] <Anderson> th0r, shows up, when I did dpkg -l it didnt, but what you said makes that all make sense
[15:05] <Creationist> lol wow.... davero86 gave the most original and lamest excuse I've ever heard
[15:05] <jeezers> tat doesnt work either, shows an error!
[15:06] <ruifeng> よくわかない
[15:06] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3152/
[15:06] <Anderson> th0r, so all of that sensitivity stuff was added by synclient?
[15:06] <MenZa> !ch | ruifeng
[15:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:06] <tehpenguin> quick question, is /opt/ndis/ a root only accessible directory?
[15:06] <MenZa> er.
[15:06] <MenZa> !zh | ruifeng
[15:06] <ubotu> ruifeng: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:06] <bazhang> ruifeng: japanese? this is an english channel
[15:06] <MenZa> Oh yeah
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn
[15:06] <Creationist> tehpenguin: Everything outside of /home/ is owned by root.
[15:06] <MenZa> That wasn't Chinese.
[15:06] <MenZa> !jp | ruifeng
[15:06] <ubotu> ruifeng: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[15:06] <bazhang> haha
[15:06] <MenZa> That's better
[15:07] <Creationist> MenZa: Looked more Korean to me, actually lol
[15:07] <jeezers> someone? help me out with this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3152/
[15:07] <MenZa> Creationist: hmm, I don't know---my font isn't great for non-Latin scripts.
[15:07] <MenZa> jeezers: try sudo apt-get install -f
[15:07] <Creationist> MenZa: Or vietnamese.  I just know it wasn't Japanese or Chinese ;)
[15:07] <jeezers> okay
[15:08] <MenZa> Creationist: heheheh :)
[15:08] <tehpenguin> sorry kind of new I guess i need to do more reading, was just wanting to install a driver for a wireless adapter
[15:08] <MenZa> !wifi | tehpenguin
[15:08] <ubotu> tehpenguin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:08] <jeezers> the same thing happens
[15:08] <Creationist> !wireless | tehpenguin
[15:08] <MenZa> Creationist: beatcha. )
[15:08] <th0r> Anderson no...synclient lets you change stuff on the fly to determine what needs to go into xorg.conf...but it doesn't modify xorg.conf
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jeezers: HAve you modified your repos?
[15:08] <Creationist> tehpenguin: Always be careful when manually installing drivers, though.
[15:08] <tehpenguin> !wifi
[15:08] <MenZa> jeezers: that's odd. Did you modify your repository listing?
[15:08] <jeezers> yeah, i did!
[15:08] <th0r> Anderson (sorry...was on the phone with the bank)
[15:08] <Creationist> tehpenguin: sudo is powerful but VERY dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
[15:08] <MenZa> jeezers: could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[15:09] <jeezers> yeap, one sec
[15:09]  * MenZa nods
[15:09] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3153/ ther!
[15:09] <Anderson> th0r, gotcha, its all good. when I try to run those config programs, synclient or gsynaptics, I get an error that SHMConfig is not enabled. As you can see from my xorg.conf though, I have it enabled....
[15:09] <tehpenguin> im not too worried yet, I could just start over with fresh install, but so far I just keep running into restricted access
[15:09] <tribaldata> Question : How i would make a specific program stop asking for my root password to executed it/
[15:09] <troythetechguy> I just did a clean upgrade to 7.10 (from 7.04), and I'm having some issues with my tty (F1-F6) - there are none.  Any ideas?
[15:09] <MenZa> jeezers: try changing all occurences of "in.ubuntu [..]" with, say, se.ubuntu [...]
[15:09] <bazhang> which program tribaldata
[15:09]  * Creationist runs 'sudo make --handsome /home/me'
[15:09] <Creationist> brb
[15:10] <tribaldata> bazhang: wireless manager
[15:10] <MenZa> jeezers: then apt-get update and apt-get install -f
[15:10] <jeezers> okie
[15:10] <shawn> I'm trying to control Totem movie player remotely via SSH and I can successfully SSH into the box playing the movie, but when I try using the totem commands it tells me I need to specify a display, how do I do this?
[15:10] <tehpenguin> appreciate the help
[15:10] <MenZa> tribaldata: you can somehow do so by giving all users permission to run it, but it's not recommended. There is a reason it's set to root-only.
[15:10] <MenZa> shawn: ssh -X <address>
[15:11] <MenZa> shawn: you need to enable X forwarding
[15:11] <rich__> does anyone have a shotgun, i need to blow up a seagate hard disk
[15:11] <MenZa> unless you wish to control the box playing it
[15:11] <tribaldata> MenZa: I fail to see why wireless manager could be so dangerous but your the pro :)
[15:11] <MenZa> in that case, you need to do DISPLAY=number <command>
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jeezers: I see you rebuilt your sources list.  Have you EVER run automatix or envy scripts. (Both bad ideas by the way)
[15:11] <shawn> MenZa, the -X enables X forwarding?
[15:11] <davina> i find the hardisk platters inside the drive make nice coasters :)
[15:11] <jeezers> i dont think so, but i have no idea wat ur talkin abt!
[15:11] <MenZa> shawn: correct.
[15:11] <vallhalla81> can anoy one suges a good cd ipper that rips to mp3/
[15:11] <th0r> Anderson working...give me a sec
[15:11] <MenZa> !freeformats | vallhalla81
[15:11] <ubotu> vallhalla81: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:12] <shawn> that seemed to work, thanks MenZa
[15:12] <MenZa> shawn: np :)
[15:12] <MenZa> shawn: enjoy the film
[15:12] <Anderson> th0r, k thanks
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jeezers: They are scripts that are supposed to install things for you, but as often as not trash the system they are supposed to be fixing
[15:12] <shawn> Although I do get 3 warnings beginning with atk-bridge-WARNING whenever I use a totem command
[15:12] <MenZa> Jack_Sparrow: the source-o-matic is safe enough, really
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> vallhalla81: try grip
[15:13] <MenZa> That doesn't necessarily mean anything, shawn
[15:13] <MenZa> most GUI apps will throw warnings when you start them in a terminal
[15:13] <bazhang> tribaldata: any reason to do so? or just lassitude :}
[15:13] <cruxeternus> Guys, what do I need to do to get pidgin to show up in Synaptic?
[15:13] <shawn> All right MenZa, thanks
[15:13] <MenZa> cruxeternus: it should by default.
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> MenZa: I agree source o matic is fine.  but often users that have run automatix or envy are trying to fix or hide that fact
[15:13] <MenZa> Jack_Sparrow: this is true
[15:13] <bazhang> cruxeternus: for feisty or gutsy
[15:13] <th0r> Anderson did you try putting my xorg.conf info in your file and restarting X?
[15:13] <cruxeternus> MenZa: I think my repositories might be screwed up or something... a search doesn't find anything
[15:13] <tribaldata> bazhang: Yup you got it just really tired of typing my password for such a trivial thing i wrote script with iwlist to facilitate this
[15:13] <MenZa> cruxeternus: you are running Gutsy, right?
[15:14] <MenZa> bazhang: good point; cheers.
[15:14] <jeezers> hey, se.ubun[...] also has the same errors
[15:14] <MenZa> That sounds really weird, jeezers
[15:14] <cruxeternus> MenZa: Well, my dad installed the one on the DVD that came with the official book... it's 7.04, I think.
[15:14] <MenZa> More like your package manager is broken, than the repositories.
[15:14] <[Sea]> Hi all I am new to ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to correct this: Using twinview (Nvidia) on two monitors (Works perfect) But when i close a window/application and re-opends it again it have forgotten at wich position on the screen it was closed. Any ideas?
[15:14] <jeezers> wel, any idea wat am supp to do??
[15:14] <MenZa> cruxeternus: There's your problem. That doesn't have Pidgin.
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cruxeternus: I compiled the latest Pidgin for my Feisty install and it worked fine.
[15:14] <Anderson> th0r, no, I;ll do that now
[15:14] <cruxeternus> MenZa: Is there a way to upgrade it?
[15:14] <MenZa> cruxeternus: You could compile it yourself, or snag a package from !getdeb
[15:15] <bazhang> MenZa: heh; I remember the whole gaim/pidgin confusion from a dew days ago :}
[15:15] <bazhang> err few
[15:15] <MenZa> cruxeternus: why, yes. Open a terminal and run update-manager
[15:15] <troythetechguy> Does anyone know how I can get my tty's back?
[15:15] <MenZa> bazhang: yeah. :/
[15:15] <cruxeternus> MenZa: Ah! That's what I needed!  THank you :)
[15:15] <MenZa> cruxeternus: No problem. :)
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> cruxeternus: You do not need to go ourside official repos to meet the dependencies.. just a little FYI
[15:15] <dfgas> i have a winterm 3360se thin client. is there a way to get ssh on it and/or xdmcp logins? remote logins to X
[15:15] <jeezers> any ideas folks?
[15:15] <cruxeternus> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, and I don't want to :)  Just need to get my base OS version up to speed.
[15:16] <MenZa> Which version of Ubuntu are you using, jeezers?
[15:16] <jeezers> 7.10. . .
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> cruxeternus: update per MenZa's instructions and you should be fine..
[15:16] <MenZa> And you're on ie86?
[15:16] <MenZa> er.
[15:16] <MenZa> i386*
[15:16] <cruxeternus> Jack_Sparrow: Excellent.  Thanks again. :)
[15:16] <bazhang> ie7
[15:16] <jeezers> wats tat?
[15:16] <[Sea]> Any ideas?
[15:16] <MenZa> jeezers: your architecture.
[15:17] <jeezers> how do i find that??
[15:17] <MenZa> Er, guys, arch is found how?
[15:17]  * MenZa tries to think
[15:17] <Anderson> th0r, your device is listed as /dev/input/mice mine is /dev/psaux anything to be concerned about there?
[15:17] <IdleOne> MenZa: google arch linux
[15:17] <MenZa> IdleOne: no, not Arch Linux, your architecture. :P
[15:17] <IdleOne> MenZa: ummm lsb_release -a does not give that info?
[15:17] <Pici> jeezers: paste the output of uname -a
[15:18] <MenZa> Pici: that'll do
[15:18] <MenZa> Nay, IdleOne
[15:18] <jeezers> Linux ENIAC 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:18] <IdleOne> yeah uname
[15:18] <MenZa> that'll do
[15:18] <jeezers> i686 then i guess?
[15:18] <th0r> Anderson I am running suse here on the laptop...so keep that in mind. I would think the /dev would be detected at bootup, but since you are having problems it might be worth a try.
[15:18] <MenZa> yes, jeezers. Well, i386compat
[15:18] <MenZa> http://pastebin.org/13620 <- try using this sources.list
[15:19] <jeezers> okie
[15:19] <jeezers> gimme a min
[15:19] <MenZa> jeezers: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[15:19] <MenZa> Sure.
[15:19] <th0r> Anderson been searching for the problem and have found several discussions regarding ubuntu...apparently there is some issue with touchpads in some ubuntu distros.
[15:19] <Anderson> th0r, i do know that my touchpad is somehow related to /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-3- because i did less -f and it showed all the gibberish... dunno if that is valuable info
[15:19] <st00ner> hi, i have copied an iso of ubuntu to my usb drive using livecd-tools, it works fine when i load it in qemu, but for some reason my bios wont boot it. Is there a way to boot from a flash drive in grub?
[15:19] <th0r> Anderson are you running gutsy?
[15:20] <Anderson> th0r, no, older version
[15:20] <[Sea]> Repost: (Not spamming) Hi all I am new to ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to correct this: Using twinview (Nvidia) on two monitors (Works perfect) But when i close a window/application and re-opends it again it have forgotten at wich position on the screen it was closed. Any ideas?
[15:20] <jeezers> updating. . . i guess
[15:20] <th0r> Anderson found this regarding gutsy....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsynaptics/+bug/155119
[15:20] <jeezers> done
[15:20] <Task> Is there a similar program on linux thats near Winamp?
[15:21] <th0r> Anderson sounds like exactly your problem
[15:21] <Pici> Task: beep media player
[15:21] <MenZa> Task: beep media player is very similar
[15:21] <MenZa> ^5, Pici
[15:21] <jeezers> wats the -f for?
[15:21] <MenZa> force
[15:21] <jeezers> sudo apt-get -f build-essential ?
[15:21] <Task> Winamp 3.0 Alpha 1 for Linux Released
[15:21] <MenZa> jeezers: nope, just sudo apt-get install -f
[15:22] <jeezers> okay, done that!
[15:22] <MenZa> Task: wha o_O
[15:22] <Pici> Task: How long ago was that?
[15:22] <Anderson> th0r, reading
[15:22] <Task> I donno lol
[15:22] <Task> rofl '01
[15:23] <Pici> Task: Exactly.
[15:23] <Anderson> th0r, yea, same deal
[15:23] <tehpenguin> take er ez guys
[15:23] <th0r> Anderson the touchpad does something, right? just doesn't work correctly
[15:23] <Anderson> th0r, i think the psaux will be fine, because that, mice, and the platform device all give me output when I less -f
[15:23] <Anderson> th0r, yea
[15:23] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3154/
[15:24] <MenZa> jeezers: try sudo aptitude install build-essential now
[15:24] <MenZa> (brb)
[15:24] <elder> where can i find build essential? or is it already installed upon install of the OS?
[15:24] <th0r> Anderson try 'lsmod | grep synaptic' and see if the module is loaded
[15:24] <Pici> elder: Its a package in the repositories.  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:25] <jeezers> okay
[15:25] <hallboy_> hii all
[15:25] <MenZa> !hi | hallboy_
[15:25] <ubotu> hallboy_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:25] <hallboy_> pls halp me
[15:25] <Creationist> I don't suppose someone could tell me why when I close KTorrent to the notification area and then reopen it, it is no longer maximized.  So I maximize it, close it, repeat... same issue.
[15:25] <Anderson> th0r, nothing
[15:25] <Anderson> th0r, I forget how to load modules
[15:25] <MenZa> Creationist: I blame kde. (*hides*)
[15:25] <hallboy_> ned too ghet in the quakenet not find
[15:25] <MenZa> Anderson: sudo modprobe <module name>
[15:25] <th0r> Anderson modprobe
[15:25] <MenZa> hallboy_: Which IRC client are you using?
[15:26] <elder> pici: forgive me im not too familiar with linux nor unix based os's. im making the transition from windows. where would i type that comman in?
[15:26] <tiredbones> When I do a search for libdvdcss  on synaptic I come up empty handed. What package would include this library?
[15:26] <elder> pici: terminal?
[15:26] <MenZa> !medibuntu | tiredbones
[15:26] <ubotu> tiredbones: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:26] <Anderson> th0r, module not found
[15:26] <Pici> elder: Yes.
[15:26] <MenZa> tiredbones: Try looking at the medibuntu repositories.
[15:26] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3156/ wat am i supp to do?
[15:26] <tiredbones> ok
[15:26] <truna> elder, a terminal or sometimes called console is similar to a dosprompt command line
[15:26] <Anderson> th0r, I am using the evdev driver....
[15:27] <elder> Pici: Thank you for your help. i may return after ive done some more reading.
[15:27] <MenZa> jeezers: erm, try q for now
[15:27] <MenZa> jeezers: then sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:27] <MenZa> try re-installing build-essential afterwards
[15:27] <MenZa> (be right back)
[15:27] <jeezers> just q?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: Sonce you are making the transition to linux, please note, most of what you need will be in the repositories and will not need to be compiled
[15:27] <elder> Truna: would it fatally damage my os, if i were to typo a command?
[15:28] <Whyvas> Offtopic, but hilarious : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K0SJoXvefw
[15:28] <Creationist> MenZa: I'm not using KDE ;)
[15:28] <elder> Jack_Sparrow: Location of repositories is in Add/Remove programs correct?
[15:28] <truna> elder not really, lest you are root or had sudo'ed to root
[15:28] <th0r> Anderson found this for dapper...reading it now....http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/10/tweaking-your-synaptics-touchpad-laptops-ubuntu-6061-610/
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: Yes, or synaptic, or aptitude etc
[15:29] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3158/ i'll continue?
[15:29] <elder> Jack_Sparrow: Which do you prefer?
[15:29] <r3m0t> hello. how do I get to the expert mode of debian-installer?
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: Perhaps, you could tell us what it is you would like to install
[15:29] <hgraey> r3m0t: choose textmode
[15:29] <wols_> r3m0t: this is #ubuntu, not #debian :)
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: apt-get from command line is quick ... synaptic is better for gui / windows users
[15:30] <r3m0t> yes but I'm using debian-installer, not ubiquity
[15:30]  * hgraey thought ubuntu uses debian-installer
[15:30] <jeezers> done with autoremove, now what?
[15:30] <elder> Jack_sparrow: Build essential, looking really ot learn more about this os so that i could get WoW running on it... ive been doing some research i know i will need Wine
[15:30] <r3m0t> i.e. the alternate CD, not the live CD
[15:30] <wols_> r3m0t: in debian you use "expert" as a bootparameter
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: You can instll wine with synaptic
[15:30] <th0r> Anderson maybe we are spinning our wheels here. It appears maybe that SHMConfig isn't necessary for the touchpad to work...only for the utilities to be able to modify its operation. Maybe you just need to adjust the settings you got from my file. But each adjustment will require restarting X
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine > elder
[15:31] <truna> elder commands available on ubuntu via the command line can be found if you type tab twice in a terminal  (thousands of them)
[15:31] <Anderson> th0r, Yea, that's what I'm getting... why would synaptics module not be availible, I have the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package
[15:31] <elder> i se
[15:31] <th0r> Anderson might not be a true synaptics touchpad....that might explain that ev... module
[15:32] <elder> i currently have WoW on a ntfs partition on my brothers system
[15:32] <elder> would i encounter problems with it? being as it's on a NTFS?
[15:32] <VladimirMelo> anybody know if updating I will have flash installed?
[15:32] <Anderson> th0r, well I switched to evdev last night while troubleshooting, but I don't know how to figure out who my touchpad vendor is
[15:32] <VladimirMelo> flash is not installed on firefox
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: You can get help with wow under wine in #Winehq  channel
[15:33] <VladimirMelo> I've just installed gutsy but did not update yet
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > VladimirMelo
[15:33] <th0r> Anderson try 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices'
[15:33] <elder> Jack_sparrow: Thank you greatly, i look foward to being a long time user of ubuntu.
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: Welcome to Ubuntu
[15:34] <Task> how do I install a C compiler? It says I need one
[15:34] <VladimirMelo> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[15:34] <Pici> Task: install the build-essential package.
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> VladimirMelo: There is a fix if you MUST have flash now...
[15:34] <MenZa> Back.
[15:35] <scott_> I installed the flash-nonfree plugin through multiverse, but it lists my flash as version 0 so youtube or cnn, etc, won't play any swf's.  How do I fix the versioning?
[15:35] <MenZa> Creationist: I suggest you check out Deluge if you wish to have a kTorrent-like client with GTK :)
[15:35] <jeezers> sudo apt-get cache xmms <-wats wrong in tat?
[15:35] <MenZa> flash | scott_
[15:35] <MenZa> jeezers: Do you wish to search?
[15:35] <VladimirMelo> ok
[15:36] <MenZa> jeezers: or what are you attempting to dos?
[15:36] <orapronobis> guys the wiki references to cracks and emule. I think this is not the spirit of free software.
[15:36] <jeezers> i dont know wat am doin!!
[15:36] <Pici> orapronobis: What page.
[15:36] <Anderson> th0r, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50268/ check this out... this is interesting because the touchpad does not show up at all, and I have two instances of the touchscreen. I know for a fact that serio3 is the touchpad because I did the less -f on it in the /dev/input/by-path
[15:36] <MenZa> jeezers: What are you /attempting/ to do?
[15:36] <bazhang> jeezers: sudo apt-get install to install it
[15:36] <jeezers> i jus want a gud music plyer :)
[15:36] <scott_> anyone else having flash versioning issues?
[15:36] <orapronobis> Pici: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro says "Download 'Activation Crack' from eMule; "
[15:37] <MenZa> jeezers: then don't use cache; use install. sudo apt-get install xmms, if it's xmms you want.
[15:37] <MenZa> !flash | scott_
[15:37] <ubotu> scott_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:37] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> scott_: read the link provided about flash
[15:37] <jeezers> okay!
[15:37] <Pici> orapronobis: You're right, thats not good.
[15:37] <r3m0t> does anybody have a guide for installing onto software RAID 5
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > r3m0t
[15:38] <Pici> orapronobis: I'll let the wiki people know, unless you want to? #ubuntu-doc
[15:38] <scott_> ok, that is exactly how I did install the flash plugin
[15:38] <th0r> Anderson it looks like the screen and thetouchpad may be related. You might have to uncomment the touchscreen in the xorg.conf and handle them both as one.
[15:38] <jeezers> thanks! got it now :)
[15:38] <orapronobis> Pici: thanks, I'll let them know
[15:38] <MenZa> jeezers: good. :)
[15:38] <Anderson> th0r, I had it like that yesterday and it didn't work
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> scott_: May I pm
[15:39] <scott_> sure
[15:39] <Anderson> th0r, I just did less -f on mouse0 and mouse1 and the touchscreen came up as mouse0 and touchpad as mouse1
[15:39] <dou> is there anyway to change firefox fonts ?
[15:39] <dou> i mean firefox fonts
[15:40] <dou> fonts...
[15:40] <Gigi> Hi!  I have a question.  I received a file thru messenger.  A pretty weird file because it was supposed to be a link .com and wine executed it... but nothing happened.  The user who sent me the file does not answer, so it's likely to be a virus.  Do I must worry (that user uses Windows)
[15:40] <Anderson> th0r,  and that would make sense that they are related, they are exhbiting the same behaviour
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi: Yes, worry
[15:40] <th0r> Anderson well..keep it in mind. You might have to fix both at once instead of turning off the touchscreen temporarily
[15:40] <jdh6403> hello everyone
[15:40] <beat_> hey
[15:40] <MenZa> Gigi: .com is not a link. It's a filetype. :)
[15:40] <beat_> , have acer aspire 5720g machine
[15:40] <bazhang> hi jdh6403
[15:40] <jdh6403> i just installed ubuntu...fresh from vista
[15:40] <Gigi> Jack_Sparrow why?  Linux is supposed to be unaffected
[15:40] <Anderson> th0r,hmmm
[15:41] <beat_> and i wonna meeet my web cam to my system
[15:41] <beat_> ubunutu 7.10
[15:41] <truna> dou, about:config  on where you normally type the url..then font
[15:41] <Gigi> MenZa true... msn old executable file... lol what a brain
[15:41] <beat_> acer crystal eye
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi: It may not harm ubuntu, but if you did not setup a second user with only wine access and if you have Z drive mapped into windows there are dangers.
[15:41] <MenZa> Gigi: Generally, viruses built for Windows run in wine are normally useless. I suggest you try to install clamav and scan it.
[15:41] <Pici> !webcam | beat_
[15:41] <ubotu> beat_: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[15:41] <Nabiki> Does anyone know of a good FAQ/Tutorial on setting up UTF-8 locales?
[15:41] <dou> truna, thanks
[15:41] <th0r> Anderson I have found plenty of references on the web to the problem, but no solutions. Plenty of things to try though <smile>
[15:42] <jdh6403> anyone have any tips on how to get dual monitors to work with ubuntu?   i have a nvidia card
[15:42] <Pici> !dualhead | jdh6403
[15:42] <ubotu> jdh6403: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[15:42] <Gigi> Thanks MenZa!!  and you two Jack... I do not have a windows drive.. but anyway I will take care of it... cuz 99.9% it's a virus... even with the .com extension... how I could forget lol
[15:42] <jdh6403> im a noob btw
[15:42] <Task> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries ?Whats that mean>
[15:42] <Task> ?
[15:42] <MenZa> !clamav | Gigi
[15:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:42] <Anderson> th0r, I'm up for a doing anything. are you going to be around for a while? I have to pick up some parts for the car I am restoring...
[15:42] <MenZa> hmm
[15:42] <Gigi> I will search thru synaptics
[15:42] <Enselic> Task: you need to install the headers  and libs
[15:43] <Creationist> MenZa: Deluge isn't in the repos?  Can't possibly be good :
[15:43] <Creationist> :
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi: THere is not the danger that you would have running windows.. but dont feel that you are 100% safe running those apps under WIne in Linux
[15:43] <Creationist> :P
[15:43] <th0r> Anderson I am on and off all day today. And there are others here who might be able to help also.
[15:43] <dou> truna, do you know which one of the lines related to the fonts of the browser itself , not the webpages?
[15:43] <MenZa> !info deluge-torrent | Creationist
[15:43] <ubotu> creationist: deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4.1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3059 kB, installed size 10740 kB
[15:43] <Task> hmmm
[15:43] <Task> ok
[15:43] <fodi> hello
[15:43] <MenZa> Creationist: I still recommend downloading from the Deluge website; the newer version is far better. :). They have Gutsy and Feisty packages.
[15:43] <Gigi> installing.  Thanks guys
[15:43] <th0r> Anderson found one more with plenty of examples....http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=86738
[15:43] <truna> dou, it  should  be under the preferences?
[15:43] <Anderson> th0r, alright, well you helped me find more information, so I thank you much
[15:44] <th0r> Anderson no problem...wish I could have fixed it for you.
[15:44] <fodi> please help me i have problem with my wireless card, sometimes network is going done
[15:44] <Gigi> Jack_Sparrow I reviewd the regedit on wine and everything seems OK.   I'm not using wine at all, so I may uninstall it and reinstall it to be save from any possible harm?
[15:44] <MenZa> !wifi | fodi
[15:44] <Anderson> th0r, a learning experience is good enough for me, thanks. take care
[15:44] <ubotu> fodi: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:44] <MenZa> Gigi: Sure. But I still recommend you run a virus scan on it.
[15:44] <fodi> it looks that transmission speed is over around 200KB/s is going down
[15:45] <Gigi> MenZa I just install it, where is it? Which command do I need to use?
[15:45] <Creationist> MenZa: Will I be able to resume my torrents currently downloading in KTorrent with Deluge?
[15:45] <MenZa> !info clamav | Gigi
[15:45] <ubotu> gigi: clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi: I gress with MenZa ... Surprise, surprise
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> agree
[15:45] <MenZa> Creationist: I don't think so.
[15:45] <Task> http://www.gtk.org/download/ I got to get all 3 there?
[15:45] <Creationist> MenZa: That's unfortunate.
[15:45] <MenZa> Creationist: In fact, I severely doubt it. Finish your torrents and change. ;)
[15:45] <Gigi> yeah.  It's installed just I do not see it xD
[15:45] <MenZa> Jack_Sparrow: We make a good team, eh?
[15:45] <dou> truna, i changed the pref>content>fonts but it did change anything...
[15:45] <Bug2000> Hey. How do I get internet connection on Ubuntu using a Cables connection in Israel?
[15:46] <MenZa> Gigi: man clamav :)
[15:46] <Gigi> thrue
[15:46] <Gigi> true
[15:46] <Gigi> thanks
[15:46] <MenZa> Gigi: I'm not sure of the commands, but I doubt it's very complicated.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> MenZa: Except for your fondness for Kubuntu... :)
[15:46] <MenZa> Jack_Sparrow: WHAT? I'm not fond of Kubuntu. :(
[15:46] <jeezers> http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxmmsar7.png can someone tell me wat to do?
[15:46] <truna> dou, you may have to restart firefox maybe even logout and then log back in
[15:46] <MenZa> jeezers: You would be better off explaining your issue to the people in the channel.
[15:47] <jeezers> okay, sorry. ..  wen i right click, the text doesnt show
[15:47] <MenZa> dou: In Firefox, it should render immediately.
[15:47] <jeezers> in the context menu, i mean
[15:47] <jeezers> while using xmms. . .
[15:47] <MenZa> jeezers: can I recommend you try beep media player instead? It's like xmms, but it has a GTK interface.
[15:47] <MenZa> !info beep-media-player
[15:47] <ubotu> beep-media-player: Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7.1+cvs20050803-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 874 kB, installed size 3628 kB
[15:48] <MenZa> It's not very good for major collections, but for 1,000-2,000 songs, it should be fine.
[15:48] <jeezers> okay, and then, i have the same problem with aaudacity. . . no text displayed
[15:48] <MenZa> mm
[15:48] <MenZa> hmm*
[15:48] <VladimirMelo> Is Gnash nice?
[15:48] <bazhang> not that nice
[15:48] <MenZa> VladimirMelo: It's not that well-supported yet :(
[15:48] <VladimirMelo> what do you think, Jack_Sparrow?
[15:48] <dou> MenZa, it doesnt. my firefox is in chinese and i can hardly read the fonts. i changed them from serif to songti but no change...
[15:49] <fodi> any experience to properly configure wifi card?
[15:49] <Rimdeker> Hey all , could anybody helpo me with some Theme engines? Aurora engine to be specific
[15:49] <VladimirMelo> MenZa: thanks
[15:49] <MenZa> dou: Well, most websites have their preferred fonts set directly in the stylesheet.
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> VladimirMelo: I used the Fix....  but I also have a good backup
[15:49] <bazhang> dou: try the arphic fonts
[15:49] <fodi> my wifi card is often frozen when speed is over 200K
[15:50] <jeezers> well. . . someone?
[15:50] <FurryNemesis> fodi, which wifi card do you have?
[15:50] <MenZa> fodi: Which wifi card and driver?
[15:50] <MenZa> !patience ± jeezers
[15:50] <MenZa> ...
[15:50] <MenZa> !patience | jeezers
[15:50] <ubotu> jeezers: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:50] <dou> MenZa, what I mean is Firefox own fonts , like the part File\Edit\View bookmarks..
[15:50] <MenZa> That's better.
[15:50] <fodi> rtl8180 chipset (bluetake)
[15:50] <jeezers> okay! sorry :(
[15:50] <MenZa> dou: Oh, that's done in the GNOME application settings.
[15:50] <dou> MenZa, how to i get there?
[15:50] <fodi> driver is ndiswrapper as built in not working
[15:51] <MenZa> dou: Sorry; I thought ou tried to set the settings for the websites you visited. Change them in System -> Preferences -> Fonts, then restart x
[15:51] <fodi> and used factory ndis driver
[15:51] <Pici> !enter
[15:51] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:51] <toto> !es
[15:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[15:51] <Task> omg... how many things I got to instakll just to install my one thing I need to compile my mp3 player
[15:51] <dou> MenZa, thanks
[15:51] <MenZa> Well, applications have dependencies, Task. What's the problem?
[15:51] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! Ive added a line in the sessions manager to start the Weather screenlet, but i want to make sure its started after compiz. Can i add some delay into the commandline?
[15:51] <Gigi> err... I did a complete scan of the drive... "sudo scanclav"  it took 2 seconds... do you think that's OK?  LOL
[15:52] <MenZa> Gigi: I think you need to apply a target.
[15:52] <bazhang> depends on the hdd size gigi
[15:52] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, just make sure the line goes in after the compiz one. That seems to work for me.
[15:52] <Enselic> Gigi: it probably defaults to .
[15:52] <Task> I am install in the ptk one and am following direactions step by step
[15:52] <MenZa> Enselic: good point
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> dou Firefox.. Edit... Preferences... Content.... advanced font setup
[15:52] <Task> but it wont do the make
[15:52] <Task> or make install
[15:52] <MenZa> Task: What are you trying to install?
[15:53] <Gigi> Enselic yep... it's supposed to be a scan of the entire drive (I have around 20 gigs used)
[15:53] <Task> http://www.gtk.org/download/
[15:53] <MenZa> Task: GTK is installed on your computer already.
[15:53] <MenZa> And even if it weren't, it's in the repositories.
[15:53] <Enselic> Task: why not use a precomipiled mp3 player?
[15:53] <Task> ok... well I was trying to install the beep media player thing....
[15:53] <Task> and it said I need a c compiler
[15:53] <MenZa> Task: sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[15:53] <MenZa> That's all there is to it. :)
[15:53] <Task> well I need the c compiler installed too
[15:53] <Enselic> Task: if you don't like the dependency chasing that is inevitable if you compile software yourself
[15:54] <MenZa> It will install the C compiler if it needs it.
[15:54] <Task> cuz I want to compile a eggdrop
[15:54] <MenZa> !info eggdrop | task
[15:54] <ubotu> task: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 464 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[15:54] <Enselic> Task: and most of the time you can install most build dependencies through e.g.   sudo apt-get build-dep gimp
[15:54] <MenZa> You can download eggdrop.
[15:54] <MenZa> :p
[15:54] <Pici> !software | Task
[15:54] <ubotu> Task: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[15:54] <MenZa> Pici: good one
[15:54] <Task> wow
[15:54] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: But the manager (System->Preferences->Sessions) sorts all entrys alphabetically
[15:55] <deykun> hello )))
[15:55] <deykun> Ukraine with Ubuntu ))
[15:55] <MenZa> NorthByNorthWest: You could create a share entry; command1 && command2
[15:55] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, oh, so it does
[15:56] <FurryNemesis> I do the same thing you're trying to do, seems to work fine as it is NorthByNorthWest
[15:56] <FurryNemesis> my bad
[15:56] <MenZa> !ua | deykun
[15:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:56] <MenZa> hmm
[15:56] <Creationist> MenZa: Just out of curiosity, I loaded a 30% downloaded torrent from KTorrent into Deluge and it appears to be downloading just fine.  Should I expect corruption?
[15:56] <NorthByNorthWest> MenZa: So I just add the screenlets commandline after the compiz one, with a && between?
[15:56] <MenZa> Creationist: Hmm, if that works, then keep going like that. That's quite nice. :)
[15:56] <Task> see this is where I dont understand... say I want to install the eggdrop.... I would be able to use that sudo apt-get command correct?
[15:56] <Gigi> OK.  I think I got it.  Should I rely regarding the virus problem on this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50272/  It's said that nothing weird is on wine
[15:56] <MenZa> NorthByNorthWest: well, say compiz && screenlets
[15:56] <MenZa> NorthByNorthWest: I think you can configure that in the screenlets settings, though
[15:56] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: well... I havent rebooter yet, but i read somewhere that screenlets should be made sure to start after compiz
[15:57] <NorthByNorthWest> MenZa: the screenlets settings managar doesnt seem to have any power over what programs are started by default in the session...
[15:57] <MenZa> NorthByNorthWest: hmm
[15:57] <deykun> what is the best irc chat client? I use xchat-gnome 0.18 :)
[15:57] <MenZa> !best | deykun
[15:57] <ubotu> deykun: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[15:58] <Enselic> deykun: I prefer xchat 2
[15:58] <MenZa> I prefer irssi myself.
[15:58] <MenZa> But as ubotu states, it's a matter of choice.
[15:58] <Enselic> irssi will rock when there is a GTK+ port of it
[15:58] <Enselic> with menus and such
[15:58] <MenZa> Noone needs GTK for IRC. :)
[15:58] <Task> I just did the sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[15:58] <Task> and it worked... but where did it put it now?
[15:59] <MenZa> Task: man eggdrop
[15:59] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, I really don't think it matters that much - seems to do it by default anyway.
[15:59] <Enselic> MenZa: a GUI will spare people from having to learn all commands
[15:59] <MenZa> Enselic: There isn't much to learn :)
[15:59] <NorthByNorthWest> MenZa, FurryNemesis: but there seems bo be another issue... I enter the commandline, with a name and comment, into the session manager, then closing and reopening it makes my manual entry disappear! :(
[15:59] <MenZa> Enselic: I invite you to #ubuntu-offtopic, though, if we wish to continue with it. :)
[16:00] <crdlb> MenZa: && will prevent screenlets from running until compiz exits successfully
[16:00] <FurryNemesis> er
[16:00] <MenZa> crdlb: ahh good point
[16:00] <MenZa> So ;?
[16:00] <Wowerz> hello. can anyone tell me why i get this error message when i try to unmount an installed drive ? : Failed to create pipe for communicating with child process (Too many open files)`
[16:00] <Enselic> MenZa: that's what you think because you know it already :)
[16:00] <MenZa> Enselic: Well, I learned once, didn't I? I like my irssi, rtorrent, mplayer and vim :)
[16:00] <quik__> hey folks
[16:01] <Enselic> MenZa: I like GIMP, mplaeyer and Emacs :)
[16:01] <Enselic> mplayer*
[16:01] <quik__> my ubuntu machine appears to load the hdd devices in a different order every boot
[16:01] <quik__> so, /dev/sdc will come up as /dev/sdd after a reboot
[16:01] <MenZa> Enselic: Well, you learned lots of commands for emacs, didn't you? :)
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > quik__
[16:02] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, so putting the name and command in a new startup session entry doesn't work?
[16:02] <josh__> All I can see are bug reports about libgimp-perl not working with Gutsy's gimp-2.4. Anyone know anything?
[16:02] <Enselic> MenZa: yeah but in emacs commands are searchable, so you don't need to remember them
[16:02] <Dr_willis> You just have to rember they are searhable.. :)
[16:02] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: I add it in the "Start programs" tab
[16:02] <Wowerz> hello. can anyone tell me why i get this error message when i try to unmount an installed drive ? : Failed to create pipe for communicating with child process (Too many open files)`
[16:02] <josh__> I'd like to go to an older version of gimp in gutsy, I'm an old debian user, but not familiar with ubuntu. Had this box for about a week. What's the procedure?
[16:02] <Enselic> MenZa: I can   M-x apropos file RET   and I will get all commands that has to do with files
[16:03] <quik__> ubotu: http://pastie.caboo.se/133542
[16:03] <MenZa> Enselic: That broke my brain. :(
[16:03] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, and you're saying that it doesn't get entered, even when you click ok on the entry?
[16:03] <quik__> ugh, Jack_Sparrow that was directed at you :)
[16:04] <Wowerz> ok, rebooting.
[16:04] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: yeah... but clicking the OK adds the entry to the list, but it gets deletet when clocking close and reopening... apparently...
[16:04] <r3m0t> ASM sucks
[16:04] <shashwat> Hi all I tried to install Ubuntu in my frnd Pc and ended in an error using Live Cd
[16:05] <shashwat> this is the error
[16:05] <troythetechguy> If I remove vga=xxx from my /boot/grub/menu.lst file, will this only affect the "boot screen", and not my GUI interface?
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: Ok...  what do you show in your fstab ?
[16:05] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: the command line is this: /home/mathias/.screenlets/ClearWeather/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py
[16:05] <Gigi> OK.  I think I got it.  Should I rely regarding the virus problem on this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50272/  It's said that nothing weird is on wine\
[16:05] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, try doing it via the screenlets submenu instead
[16:05] <Lunar_Lamp> !dualscreen
[16:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <shashwat> /etc/gdm | failsage Xserver:line 47: :[:too many arguments warning could not retrieve edid because edid is not installed]
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[16:06] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[16:06] <truna> troythetechguy, try and see what happens?
[16:06]  * iblicf happy new year 
[16:06] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, go to session > screenlets and open it up
[16:06] <c4liforNia> hey everybody
[16:06] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastie.caboo.se/133545
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi: THe odds are it will not harm your system...
[16:07] <shashwat> Hi all I tried to install Ubuntu in my frnd Pc and ended in an error using Live Cd
[16:07] <shashwat> /etc/gdm | failsage Xserver:line 47: :[:too many arguments warning could not retrieve edid because edid is not installed]
[16:07] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: well...  clicking "Automatically start on login" (and enable) does nothing... I feel this might be related to the vanishing manual entry into the sessions manager...(?)
[16:07] <Gigi> Jack_Sparrow  it's possible to receive a key logger or that stuff with wine activated?  It;s the only thing worries me.  I know my system is save
[16:07] <FurryNemesis> NorthByNorthWest, then I'm sorry, no idea what's going on.
[16:08] <cruxeternus> Guys, I'm getting a hash mismatch on the flash installer... anyone know the fix for this?
[16:08] <NorthByNorthWest> FurryNemesis: Ok, thanks for trying anyway! And have a Happy New Years eve, im off to iron my tux shirt! :D
[16:08] <cruxeternus> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[16:08] <cruxeternus> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: Lines 15,18 and 21 should be changed to uuid's from sdd  etc
[16:08] <FurryNemesis> happy new year, NorthByNorthWest
[16:08] <Pici> !flashissues | cruxeternus
[16:08] <ubotu> cruxeternus: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:08] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: Then it can't go wrong, ehy?
[16:08] <Moul1> can you run macromedia flash on ubuntu?
[16:08] <Bitmess> How can I stop my laptop CPU from scaling.  It's a 2Ghz running at 798mhz?
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: That is the plan
[16:09] <sharperguy> How to I see windows style hidden files on a cd?
[16:09] <cruxeternus> Pici: ah! thanks
[16:09] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: how can I tell more information about the drives (so I can ensure the right volume goes wherever?)
[16:09] <th0r> sharperguy windows hidden files will not be hidden in linux they will show up as normal files
[16:09] <Dr_willis> windows style hidden files? hmm...
[16:09] <Dr_willis> Oh i rember those from DOS days.. they still around?
[16:10] <Mr_Sonoma> sharperguy, "ls -a " should do it
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: You have the uuid so they will mount where you tell them in fstab
[16:10] <Creationist> th0r: Yeah, that kinda pissed me off about Windows too... I can view any and all files on my Linux drives regardless of permissions.  Kind of defeats the purpose of security, doesn't it?
[16:10] <c4liforNia> I am not able to use blkid.. for some reason it crashes everytime i try to use it.. any ideas?
[16:10] <sharperguy> th0r: well for some reason, \i have this WOW disk here and many files do not show up in ubuntu, they appear as hidden in windows (ls -a didnt work)
[16:10] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: how can I tell the capacity of the volumes (while unmounted)?
[16:11] <th0r> Creationist I don't let windows into my linux drives...it can't even read the partition
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: NOt sure what you are trying to do as that isnt part of your original question
[16:11] <nicholas> Does anyone here use EyeQ?
[16:12] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: I want to ensure that I can match the UUID with the data that I know is on each volume/
[16:12] <Creationist> th0r: I'm just saying that I used to think my personal stuff was safe in Linux without my password.  But that's just no even close to true.  All you have to do is throw the drive into a Windows machine and boom... it's all accessible.
[16:12] <ynef> Creationist: physical access is root access... :-)
[16:12] <th0r> Creationist not if it is formatted ext3...windows can't read that drive
[16:12] <Gigi> I'm going to the safest way at the end (I scanned and said nothing weird) as it seems a ultra soft scan, I uninstalled wine and I'm deleting the entire .wine folder.  By that way, if there was a keylogger, is gone now
[16:13] <methods> !!! so compiz comes installed by default but there is no fusion manager or the compiz settings manager installed by default ?
[16:13] <Bitmess> Why is my 2Ghz processor running at 798MHz?
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: Are you just wanting to be sure you have the right uuid with the right mount point?
[16:13] <ynef> th0r: http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs ?
[16:13] <lunartear> whats the standard for monitoring services and restarting them when they fail?
[16:13] <th0r> Creationist but it is a good reason to install truecrypt...which works under both windows and linux
[16:13] <Scunizi> quik__: mount them first then you can examime the data for ident.  After that you can edit fstab and rearrange the drive designations how you like.
[16:13] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[16:13] <ynef> Bitmess: is it a laptop computer?
[16:13] <quik__> what command will list the drives brand and capacity?
[16:13] <eko_hermiyanto> hi
[16:13] <th0r> ynef yeah...anything is possible if you want to work hard enough. reference my last comment about truecrypt <smile>
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: sudo vol_id -u device .... as in  sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda7
[16:14] <eko_hermiyanto> anyone could give me suggestion on good networking good(especially in Ubuntu or Unix)?
[16:14] <eko_hermiyanto> good networking books*
[16:14] <Tribal_Away> Bitmess: cpu frequency scaling policy might be enable
[16:14] <ynef> eko_hermiyanto: from what perspective?
[16:14] <ynef> eko_hermiyanto: programming or user or administrator?
[16:14] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: doesnt "blkid" give that as well?
[16:14] <B-rabbit> can you find a there a similar word processor application like open office  in ubuntu?
[16:14] <eko_hermiyanto> ynef, administrator
[16:14] <truna> lunartear, you are writing your own daemon?
[16:14] <c4liforNia> ah nvm .. it doesnt give the capacity right?
[16:15] <eko_hermiyanto> B-rabbit, abiword?
[16:15] <lunartear> truna: no I mean like apache
[16:15] <RoyK> hi
[16:15] <Creationist> th0r: My windows partition reads my /home partition (ext3) just fine.
[16:15] <xyvuoeua> t
[16:15] <ynef> eko_hermiyanto: most likely you could just read up on the stuff that RedHat uses for certifications, and get one of those if you have the cash :-)
[16:15] <Creationist> th0r: Of course, I had to install a driver for that, but still.
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: He wanted drive specific as the other command was not specific enough and included all drives
[16:15] <joanki> is there a way to toggle between work spaces with a shortcut?
[16:15] <RoyK> I'm from the debian camp, and I'm quite found of a small iso download and then do the rest of the install over the network. is this possible with ubuntu as well?
[16:15] <truna> lunartear, whats the /etc/init.d/apache2 script says?
[16:16] <joanki> if so, what is that shortcut?
[16:16] <Scunizi> Lunar_Lamp: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart (stop/start)
[16:16] <ynef> joanki: sure -- ctrl-alt-right/left arrow
[16:16] <B-rabbit> eko_hermiyanto, thnx
[16:16] <joanki> hm is there a shorter shortcut???? ynef
[16:16] <th0r> Creationist yeah...like I said anything is possible. Used to be able to it by reconfiguring the drive parameters too. Again...truecrypt
[16:16] <ynef> joanki: you can choose anyone you want of course
[16:16] <FurryNemesis> joanki, yes. You want a keyboard shortcut, it's alt + left/right
[16:16] <joanki> you can create your own shortcuts, ynef?
[16:16] <joanki> woohooo
[16:16] <FurryNemesis> sorry, ctrl+alt + left/right
[16:16] <xyvuoeua> does anyone know what my problem is ? when I boot up, when I get to the login screen for some reason ubuntu shuts off my monitor
[16:16] <nicholas> Any configuration tips for Wine that I could try? Even if you don't know EyeQ.
[16:16] <joanki> actually, that's not that bad, thanks ynef and FurryNemesis
[16:16] <th0r> Creationist although I have on my list to investigate cryptfs
[16:16] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: yep youre right.. btw i was trying to use "blkid" and ubuntu said that the application crashed.. isnt that weird?
[16:17] <truna> RoyK, i think thats possible, i have read about it, about network install of ubuntu
[16:17] <ynef> joanki: but really, you can customize that in "keyboard shortcuts" :-)
[16:17] <elder> !Wine > nicholas
[16:17] <Bitmess> ynef: Yes it's a laptop
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Odd,
[16:17] <joanki> i'm going to have to learn how to do that when i have like a thousand hours ;)
[16:17] <xyvuoeua> does anyone know what my problem is ? when I boot up, when I get to the login screen for some reason ubuntu shuts off my monitor. and I have to press a key or move the mouse to make the screen turn on.
[16:17] <ynef> Bitmess: then check out if speedstep (google for it) is messing stuff up for you
[16:17] <tribaldata> Bitmess: it might be cpu frequency scaling policy
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: You may want to check out those partitions and make sure they are ok
[16:18] <elder> nicholas: #WineHQ for assistance on wine
[16:18] <ynef> xyvuoeua: no idea. dodgy setup of dpms (sp?)
[16:18] <Bitmess> ynef: I'l look at it thanks
[16:18] <FurryNemesis> joanki, it's very easy. Go to system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts and edit the move workspace entries to what you want
[16:18] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: yea i was having issues with a new SATA drive.. maybe thats the cause
[16:18] <Bitmess> tribaldata: How can I change this?
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Consider it a warning shot...   and deal with it asap
[16:19] <joanki> thanks FurryNemesis
[16:19] <xyvuoeua> and then I accidentally deleted the background image for KDM start up
[16:19] <Task> is tcl already installed? on ubuntu
[16:19] <xyvuoeua> and it's blue now
[16:19] <FurryNemesis> joanki, those entries should be right at the end of the list. And np.
[16:19] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: well kind of a nice warning shot as i am currently unable to boot Gutsy.. :(
[16:19] <joanki> i see that
[16:19] <ynef> joanki: while there, you owe it to yourself to set up a nice shortcut for "move window to next/prev workspace" -- it makes life easier :-)
[16:19] <tribaldata> Bitmess: check this link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371815
[16:20] <xyvuoeua> anyone can help me ?
[16:20] <tribaldata> Task: Not from default
[16:20] <lunartear> truna, yeah, its a standard init.d script.
[16:20] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: It seems that the UUID was used for a reason, thanks :)
[16:20] <joanki> FurryNemesis, what does a shortcut like 0xa0 mean?
[16:20] <joanki> thanks ynef will do
[16:20] <ynef> xyvuoeua: sorry, no :-(
[16:20] <ynef> joanki: it's just a so called "scancode", don't worry
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: If you need help we will do what we can.  Hopefully you were not running it under wubi or in a vm that went very wrong
[16:20] <quik__> How come the dev names move around like that anyway?
[16:21] <Task> tribaldata thanks
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: Is that a removeable drive?
[16:21] <quik__> Jack_Sparrow: no, they're all IDE or SATA drives
[16:21] <truna> lunartear, right, so the daemon is apache and its written to survive many faults
[16:21] <ynef> xyvuoeua: really strange problem you've got -- never ever heard of it. can you try using a different video driver, to see if that's causing it?
[16:21] <lunartear> truna, I'm trying to find where its being invoked so I can modify it
[16:21] <FurryNemesis> joanki, that's the code for different keys  - normally extra keyboard keys or media keys
[16:21] <ynef> xyvuoeua: "vesa" should work
[16:21] <xyvuoeua> vesa ?
[16:21] <joanki> FurryNemesis, thanks!!! yaya, i have a new shortcut for switching between panels.  THANKS!!!!!
[16:21] <truna> lunartear, look in the start section of that apache2 script
[16:21] <lunartear> truna: its apache-perl, and shouldnt be gracefully restarted
[16:21] <FurryNemesis> np at all
[16:21] <xyvuoeua> I'm not willing to completely re-do my entire xorg once again
[16:21] <ynef> xyvuoeua: yeah, the video driver :-)
[16:21] <tyoc> is possible to have a full screen console, tha when I switch with CTRL+ALT+LEFT/RIGHT gain the focus and I dont need to hit ALT+TAB?
[16:21] <Task> the command..... make install does that make a installer... or is it installing it?
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> quik__: Glad it fixed your problem.. It might be how your cmos/bios is setup, a slow drive or the fact that you are mixing sata and ide's
[16:22] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: no i just got a new hard drive (SATA) and i wanted to install Gutsy on it.. the installation went just fine but when Grub came up after a reboot i was unable to boot into ubuntu
[16:22] <tribaldata> Task: you trying to install an eggdrop ?
[16:22] <xyvuoeua> im just telling you the problem. as soon as the login screen apears the monitor goes into sleep mode and I have to press a key to wake it up
[16:22] <Task> yea
[16:22] <ynef> tyoc: doesn't a maximized terminal window do that for you?
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Multiple drives? or single  and did you get to a cli/terminal prompt
[16:22] <tribaldata> Task: apt-get install eggdrop
[16:22] <tyoc> I know I can hit F11 in gnome-terminal and it go fullsscreen, but when switching between desktops, it dont gain again the focus when returning back
[16:23] <tribaldata> Task: will do all for you including tcl and you just need to create the config file after
[16:23] <truna> Task, look inside the Makefile for the target install and follow it what it does, a bit complex but it will tell you what it does
[16:23] <Task> I did it the way you said but I didnt get to config any of it and found no help that way
[16:23] <tyoc> ynef: yea it do it, but I want that when I come back with switching from keys between desktops it gain again the focus, without I need to hit ALT+TAB
[16:23] <Task> so I rather compile myself
[16:23] <ynef> xyvuoeua: yes, but I was just suggesting that perhaps the video driver is what's causing the problem. changing to vesa would help to verify that idea :-)
[16:23] <VladimirMelo> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, flash issue solved
[16:23] <tribaldata> Task: : as you wish :)
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> VladimirMelo: Glad you got it.. Welcome to Ubuntu
[16:23] <VladimirMelo> Jack_Sparrow: but my firefox interface fonts are too small, do you know about it?
[16:23] <ynef> tyoc: yeah, but not "fullscreened" terminal, just "maximized" :-)
[16:24] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: yes two hard drives, two partitions each (sda1,sda2,sdb1,sdb2) and yeah i am able to start the ubuntu live CD so i can use the terminal
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> VladimirMelo:  Firefox.. Edit... Preferences... Content.... advanced font setup
[16:24] <xyvuoeua> can I change to vesa without re-configuring my xorg ?
[16:24] <tyoc> ynef: o yep, I gues that will work, but I liked more fullscreen XD
[16:24] <xyvuoeua> i don't think I have any special drivers for my video card anyways
[16:24] <edis6n> How to remove gnome and all the not needed files (i got xfce now)
[16:24] <VladimirMelo> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I'm gonna try it
[16:24] <Task> tribaldata I tried that way couldnt find any help on it
[16:24] <nicholas> The people in the Wine channel aren't helping.
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Then grub didnt get installed to the right place..  Dual booting as well...?
[16:24] <xyvuoeua> it's a matrox G400 and I'm running a big resolution
[16:24] <tyoc> ynef: it is bad that in fullscreen it doesnt gain the focus :S
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> nicholas: They are not as active a group as we are .. but they are where you need to go for Wine support
[16:25] <ynef> tyoc: it sure is :-(
[16:25] <Task> tribaldata how do I make the config file?
[16:25] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: yes dualbooting indeed.. i wonder how grub could be installed to the wrong place as it is showing up and i can boot into XP from there
[16:25] <bazhang> happy new year #ubuntu !
[16:25] <Scunizi> xyvuoeua: just change the referance to the driver in xorg without using the "reconfigure" option.  Then restart gdm
[16:25] <tribaldata> Task: well if your at the compile portion your nearly there :)
[16:25] <edis6n> How to remove gnome and all the not needed files (i got xfce now)
[16:25] <tribaldata> Task: jsut a sec
[16:25] <nicholas> Maybe someone in here knows how to use Eye Q with Wine.
[16:26] <RoyK> hi all! I'm from the debian camp, and I'm quite found of a small iso download and then do the rest of the install over the network. is this possible with ubuntu as well?
[16:26] <tyoc> ynef: thanks for the info :)
[16:26] <tyoc> by the way, ALL, have a nice year!
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Then something is wrong past that in your setup.  Did you add the drive after the install?
[16:26] <ynef> RoyK: sort of, you can do a "server install"
[16:26] <bazhang> !minimal | RoyK
[16:26] <nicholas> Do you know of any reading training programs for Linux?
[16:26] <ubotu> RoyK: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:26] <tribaldata> Task: here you go :http://www.egginfo.org/?page=config
[16:26] <RoyK> bazhang: thanks
[16:26] <Scunizi> RoyK: there is an ubuntu minimal
[16:26] <xyvuoeua> 	Device		"Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400/G450"
[16:26] <bazhang> no worries
[16:26] <Task> tribaldata nah I installed it but couldnt find out what to do
[16:26] <Task> or how
[16:26] <Task> or the dir
[16:26] <Task> :(
[16:27] <RoyK> 9.1MB???
[16:27] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: no.. i can even access it from the live cd and as far as i can see (im a linux newb hehe) the installation went fine and ubuntu is completely there
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: I need to run, but others here can help better than I can with grub and dual drives.. it is a common problem.. just not one I know the answer to on how to fix it
[16:27] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: okay.. thanks anyway and cya
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: It is a simple edit to grub...   just not "My Thing"
[16:28] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: hehe sure .. bye
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > task
[16:28] <ynef> RoyK: hey, you wanted minimal ;-)
[16:28] <RoyK> ynef: sure :)
[16:28] <lunartear> truna: http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/11941   This is what happened.  it died completely at the end and never started back up
[16:28] <cambrant> hi, my wireless connection to my router keeps dying whenever the transfer rate gets high (roughly 800kBps), and I have to reboot the computer. does anyone know what the problem might be? i'm using the ipw2200 driver...
[16:29]  * RoyK wants to try ubuntu on his macbook pro
[16:29] <xLE> !identd
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:29] <Scunizi> c4liforNia: if you think grub is installed on the wrong drive, try changing the boot drive in the bios.  I'm not on my regular machine so I don't have all my grub ref. material.  There's a good tutorial/how to on bigpond.net
[16:29] <xLE> !ident
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:29] <Task> !eggdrop
[16:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eggdrop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:29] <xLE> does ubuntu have identd on it?
[16:29] <Task> !eggdrop | Task
[16:29] <edis6n> llllll
[16:29] <edis6n> o
[16:29] <xLE> does ubuntu have identd on it?
[16:29] <Dr_willis> xLE,  you can install an idented server.. if you really want
[16:29] <Dr_willis> !find identd
[16:29] <ubotu> Found: bidentd, gidentd, midentd, nullidentd, oidentd (and 4 others)
[16:30] <Dr_willis> They are sort of useless these days
[16:30] <c4liforNia> Scunizi: yeah thanks but i think that Grub is okay as far as i can see because i am able to use it and i can boot my other OS from there
[16:30] <edis6n> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: <-------- is there a comment to remove them alll???
[16:30] <kritzstapf> some irc server like identd responses..
[16:30] <lunartear> truna, I believe that was during the network outage we experienced that evening
[16:30] <xLE> ..i'm trying to connect to irc right.. but i need to connect to the identd server so the irc server can recognise me?
[16:30] <nicholas> Does anyone know of speed reading software that will work in Linux?
[16:30] <Dr_willis> I recall an idented server written in perl, that was all of 3 lines :)
[16:30] <Scunizi> c4liforNia: I missed some of what you were talking about ..  what is going on?
[16:31] <Dr_willis> xLE,  what network? this one doesent need identd.
[16:31] <xLE> efnet
[16:31] <xLE> and others.
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: Post your grub/menu.lst to the pastebin for people to check it over.. not in this channel.. then give us the link to your file
[16:31] <Dr_willis> I dont think efnet requires one either. But pick one from the list.. and install it.
[16:31] <lunartear> xLE: IIRC inetd has identd?
[16:31] <Scunizi> good ideal
[16:31] <Scunizi> *idea
[16:31] <nicholas> Does anyone know of any free alternatives to Wine?
[16:31] <xLE> what does?
[16:31] <Pici> nicholas: Wine is free.
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi: C4 has dual drives, grub boots to windows but not to his Ubuntu install.
[16:32] <nicholas> Wine won't run EyeQ.
[16:32] <Dr_willis> nicholas,  Cedega is comercial variant of wine. and crossoveroffice is comercial also
[16:32] <Task> tribaldata any idea
[16:32] <kingpanga> hello ! anyone can help to install my display driver GeForce Go 6100 on ubuntu
[16:32] <tribaldata> Task: sorry i hasd to step away what up now ?
[16:32] <c4liforNia> well i guess im running outta time as well .. im sorry :(
[16:32] <Dr_willis> xLE,  a lot of networks check for identd response. but done require them.
[16:32] <lunartear> xLE: from inetd.conf: #ident          stream  tcp     wait    identd  /usr/sbin/identd        identd
[16:32] <nicholas> I want to try another free alternative to Wine to see if it will run EyeQ.
[16:32] <Task> about the eggdrop
[16:33] <xLE> Dr_willis, i know they dont require them, but i want it to do it.
[16:33] <Dr_willis> nicholas,  you may want to try the newer/latest wine.
[16:33] <gmu_ninja> help please!  Aptitude wants to remove all my packages!
[16:33] <Task> I did the apt-get install eggdrop and installed it but I dont know how to get to is
[16:33] <c4liforNia> thanks for your help ill come back the other day with the menu.lst and other stuff maybe we can fix it then
[16:33] <Task> it* or the config file
[16:33] <tribaldata> Task: Well you have two choice use the apt command with eggdrop and create a config file or compile it from scratch
[16:33] <Scunizi> kingpanga: if you are trying to install the driver off the cd, don't.  Ubuntu has the nvidia driver built in and available.  Enable effects
[16:33] <tribaldata> ahh i see
[16:33] <Dr_willis> Task,  fire up the package manager, check the eggdrop package. see what files and docs it installed.. and read them?
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> c4liforNia: welcome to Ubuntu.. See you soon
[16:33] <jpatrick> Task: read the README in /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/
[16:33] <Task> kk
[16:34] <tribaldata> Task: from scratch there is no config file in the folder you need to create it
[16:34] <xLE> how do i port forward 113? or w/e.
[16:34] <Arthur> Should I get Kubuntu, or just stick with Ubuntu?
[16:34] <c4liforNia> Jack_Sparrow: yeah thanks.. im looking forward to using it and the community (: bye
[16:34] <jpatrick> Task: (I lagger) read the README in /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/
[16:34] <tribaldata> Task: create one from there : http://www.egginfo.org/?page=config
[16:34] <gmu_ninja> help please!  Aptitude wants to remove all my packages!
[16:34] <tribaldata> Task: then add it to your eggdrop folder
[16:34] <Pici> gmu_ninja: Why does it want to do that?
[16:34] <gmu_ninja> i don't know...
 so what should i do?
[16:35] <white_eagle> when I try to install kiba-dock from the insturctions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554127 and after compiling akamaru I have to compile kiba-dock everything goes fine but before the end this shows up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50273/plain/ and after that I tried to "sudo make install" but you'll see what shows up after that
[16:35] <Pici> gmu_ninja: What are you removing that it might want to do that?
[16:35] <xLE> !portforward
[16:35] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[16:35] <xLE> !firewall
[16:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:35] <xLE> damn
[16:35] <xLE> how do i open port 113?
[16:35] <methods> how do i configure compiz ?
[16:35] <jpatrick> tribaldata: one only has to read that readme ;)
[16:35] <truna> is it close?
[16:36] <tribaldata> jpatrick: lol would help :)
[16:36] <gmu_ninja> i was adding sendmail... and it said it was going to remove about 400MB of packages because they are not needed any more
[16:36] <lunartear> truna, did you see my messages?
[16:36] <crdlb> methods: join #compiz-fusion
[16:36] <Scunizi> kingpanga: I'm on a windows lappy with no ref. material. but.. I think under System/Admin there should be a choice for display etc.  In there you can choose "propriatory driver".  That should activate it.
[16:36] <truna> lunartear, i stepped out for a coffee..missed it
[16:36] <gmu_ninja> the list of packages to remove includes apache2, etc.
[16:36] <lunartear> truna: http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/11941   This is what happened.  it died completely at the end and never started back up
[16:36] <methods> crdlb: yea but what does ubuntu come with to configure it ? it should have something by default
[16:36] <lunartear> truna, I believe that was during the network outage we experienced that evening
[16:37] <Pici> gmu_ninja: Because sendmail conflicts with something that already exists.
[16:37] <methods> crdlb: like where is hte fusion manager and stuff
[16:37] <crdlb> methods: other than gnome-appearance-properties and gconf-editor, nothing :)
[16:37] <white_eagle> please help
[16:37] <methods> but that has nothing to do with compiz
[16:37] <crdlb> methods: yes it does
[16:37] <gmu_ninja> I do not currently have any MTA installed, and would sendmail cause apache2 to be removed?
[16:37] <Arthur> So any thoughts on whether or not I should use Kubuntu instead of the Gnome Ubuntu?
[16:38] <crdlb> methods: there's no way ccsm would ever be included by default. it's far too complex and dangerous
[16:38] <xLE> how do i open port 113?
[16:38] <Scunizi> Arthur: you can always load gnome then install kubuntu-desktop and switch back and forth at your leasure.
[16:38] <truna> lunartear, to get in depth on which signal apache uses to terminate and such you may have to visit #apache channel ..anyhow what were you expecting the daemon to do if the network fails?
[16:38] <Pici> gmu_ninja: iirc, exim is installed by default.
[16:38] <Pici> xLE: you need to forward that with your router.
[16:38] <methods> isn't there a nice fusion manager now ?
[16:38] <methods> like the old beryl manager
[16:39] <xLE> and if dont have a router
[16:39] <gmu_ninja> bust still... i can understand removing those two... but over 400MB of packages?
[16:39] <Pici> xLE: Then just make sure that its open with firestarter
[16:39] <Pici> .
[16:39] <gmu_ninja> including stuff like Apache?
[16:39] <lunartear> truna, I expect the monitoring software to properly start up the service when it fails
[16:39] <xLE> !firestarter
[16:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:39] <crdlb> methods: you mean a settings manager? that's ccsm
[16:39] <methods> crdlb: you remember the beryl icon ?
[16:39] <crdlb> !ccsm | methods
[16:39] <ubotu> methods: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[16:39] <lunartear> truna, it never started back up
[16:39] <Arthur> Scunizi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop I found this command, but will it overwrite the Gnome, or will I still have the option to choose which one I watn?
[16:39] <Arthur> Want*
[16:40] <crdlb> methods: there's fusion-icon but you really don't need it on ubuntu. join #compiz-fusion if you really want to install it
[16:40] <gmu_ninja> Aptitude want's to remove itself (package aptitude)
[16:40] <truna> lunartear, from the log you pasted, I dont think a monitor can do anything with that, its more of the daemon really failing.
[16:40] <methods> k
[16:40] <Pici> Arthur: No, it will not remove gnome.
[16:40] <methods> thanks
[16:40] <Scunizi> Arthur: it will not overwrite gnome.  When you boot and get to the log-in screen click the "sessions" button and change to the one you want.
[16:41] <lunartear> truna, something like runsvdir would have been persistant enough to get it back up
[16:41] <Arthur> Ah, all right thank you
[16:41] <truna> lunartear, you may get a better answer at apache channel for in-depth answers
[16:41] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  you could try using synaptic, or from the shell try a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' see if that straightens things out
thx i'll see
[16:41] <truna> lunartear, what does runsvdir do? do you have a script or source for it to look at? and see what it does when a daemon fails?
[16:41] <tribaldata> Scunizi: did you try this : apt-get remove --purge gnome gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment
[16:42] <gmu_ninja> i am using console only... no GUI
[16:42] <Galactic> hello
[16:42] <lunartear> truna, it monitors services and starts them when they arent running
[16:42] <Scunizi> tribaldata: why would I do that?  maybe wrong nick referance ?
[16:42] <gmu_ninja> i am afraid apt-get update will auto remove the packages that aptitude wants to remove
[16:42] <tribaldata> Scunizi: my bad wrong channel :\
[16:43] <truna> lunartear, on its config file, do you see the entry on how it starts the apache? is it in a loop after it checks the server being dead?
[16:43] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  Id do  a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' see if that straightens things out - ive had aptitude get very confused befor.  One way to find out. Ive had aptitude remove 200 packagges.. then reinstall them.. for some odd reason
[16:43] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  other then that.. not sure what to try.
[16:43] <Galactic> hey I just installed the nvidia-glx new driver and want to know how i set my resolution higher? its stuck at 800x600
[16:44] <lunartear> truna, runsvdir isnt on this machine..  I was merely saying that it would have done the job.   I'm just wondering why the standard monitoring software failed to start apache after it died
[16:44] <nicholas> Upgrading Wine.
[16:44] <Galactic> Anyone know how to set graphics higher?
[16:44] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  there is the nvidia tools.
[16:44] <scott_> Galactic: one way is to modify your xorg.conf, but I think there's gui for that that would be more user friendly
[16:44] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  thats one way
[16:45] <gmu_ninja> I don't want to remove and reinstall packages all day...
[16:45] <Galactic> where do you find this gui?
[16:45] <Dr_willis> nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig
[16:45] <gmu_ninja> does anyone know what's going on?
[16:45] <truna> lunartear, my initial google for that runsvdir checks what is on /var/service and you are not running apache off of that directory its from /etc/init.d so the wrong tool?
[16:45] <Dr_willis> one of thoseis a gui. other is terminal
[16:45] <lunartear> truna pay attention please
[16:45] <xLE> is there a command i can use to show what operating system i have?
[16:45] <Galactic> where do you find the gui?
[16:45] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  what was weird.. was the packages were allready downkloaded in the cache. so it dident really do much
[16:45] <Pici> xLE: lsb_release -a
[16:46] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  nvidia-settings   or     nvidia-xconfig
[16:46] <Galactic> thanks so much for the info
[16:46] <truna> lunartear, i am paying attention, why did i search google for that?
[16:46] <Galactic> is it under admin?
[16:46] <lunartear> truna you arent paying attention to my messages
[16:46] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  i just type the command in a shell. I dont search menus
[16:46] <Galactic> where do i download it?
[16:47] <_Casey_> whats an pdf viewer for ubuntu
[16:47] <Galactic> ok
[16:47] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  if you installed the nvidia drivers. they should be installed
[16:47] <Pici> !pdf | _Casey_
[16:47] <ubotu> _Casey_: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[16:47] <Galactic> kk
[16:47] <truna> lunartear, that was my interpretation of what you said, the monitoring tool is not doing its job, and I responded is it the right tool? its monitoring /var/service while apache is run off of /etc/init.d
[16:47] <murf> Hi folks... just finished installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my main pc.  Pretty well everything went ok except for my soundcard.  It's a soundblaster xi-fi.  I have the volume control on my desktop but I get no sound and an error when I click on the volume control.
[16:47] <scott_> Galactic: you might also try System>Administration>Screens and Graphics and adjust your monitor settings
[16:47] <Cynnic> hello all, can anyone help me with a "NetworkManager fails to load" problem?
[16:47] <gmu_ninja> Dr_willis, what?  I did the apt-get update and upgrage, but it didn't modify the packages any... aptitude wants to remove 463MB of packages it thinks "are no longer used"
[16:47] <truna> lunartear, are you following what am saying?
[16:47] <_Casey_> thx
[16:48] <Galactic> tried that already wouldnt go any higher han 800x600
[16:48] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  yep - i had a similer issue. it removed 300 packages.. then it reinstalled them. Never did fiture out why/
[16:48] <Cynnic> !networkmanager
[16:48] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[16:48] <gmu_ninja> but this is vital stuff... like aptitude itself
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  so if you try to install ONE little package (say unp) it wants to remove a bunch every time eh?
[16:48] <Dr_willis> goops wrong name. :P
[16:48] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja, ,  so if you try to install ONE little package (say unp) it wants to remove a bunch every time eh?
[16:48] <tribaldata> Cynnic: is that the only error it giving you ?
[16:48] <bastian> Hi.. happy new year. I've just installed C&C in wine.  don't know how to start the game though.  running "wine /home/bastian/.wine/drive_c/WESTWOOD/C&C95/C&C95.EXE"  just gives me an error.  can anyone helP?
[16:49] <gmu_ninja> even if I don't install or remove any packages
[16:49] <truna> lunartear, there is a runsvdir has a config file right? how does it check for the keep alive?
[16:49] <biff420> bastian: what is the error?
[16:49] <scott_> bastian: try the appdb.winehq.com to see if it needs tweaked.
[16:49] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  you may want to try apt-get installing somthing.  not using aptitude
[16:49] <Cynnic> tribaldata: it
[16:49] <bastian> biff420: [1] 7215
[16:49] <bastian> [2] 7216
[16:49] <bastian> bash: C95/C: No such file or directory
[16:49] <bastian> wine: cannot find '/WESTWOOD/C'
[16:49] <bastian> bash: C95.EXE: command not found
[16:49] <bastian> [1]-  Exit 2                  wine /WESTWOOD/C
[16:49] <Dr_willis> I never use apttitude any more since it went crazy that one time
[16:50] <bastian> [2]+  Exit 127                C95/C
[16:50] <gmu_ninja> but I use aptitude to keep things updated
[16:50] <Galactic> hey part of the config window is outside of the screen how do i resize it to see it?
[16:50] <Galactic> or how do i move the window to see it?
[16:50] <bastian> scott_: looked.. doesn't mention any tweak :S
[16:50] <Cynnic> tribaldata: it's not giving me any errors, it's just not loading at all
 i dont see propriatory driver
[16:50] <biff420> bastian: like scott said...i would look at appdb.winehq.com, ill bet that game is one there
[16:50] <Dr_willis> gmu_ninja,  i alwyas use apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade.   never had the need for apttitude to do that.
[16:51] <scott_> bastian: I bet the & in the C&95 folder might be the problem
[16:51] <Anderson> th0r, you still out there?
[16:51] <scott_> bastian: try renaming that folder
[16:51] <biff420> bastian: did you install using wine?  or are you running it from a win32 partition?
[16:51] <Scunizi> Can anyone tell kingpanga how to activate the propriatary graphics driver on his system ???
[16:51] <tribaldata> Cynnic: if you run it using console what does it give you ?>
[16:51] <Dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[16:51] <Pici> gmu_ninja: How exactly did you install sendmail? and which package did you choose?
[16:51] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers - GNOME frontend. In component restricted, is optional. Version 0.33.1 (gutsy), package size 38 kB, installed size 316 kB
[16:52] <biff420> Scunizi: which driver?
[16:52] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  install and run restricted-manager , is one way
[16:52] <Scunizi> please address to kingpanga
[16:52] <biff420> Scunizi: for NVIDIA I used Envy...worked like a charm!
[16:52] <bastian> biff420: installed in wine
[16:52] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[16:52] <Pici> !envy | bastian
[16:52] <ubotu> bastian: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[16:52] <Pici> arg.
[16:52] <truna> lunartear, furthermore, runsvdir is not a common tool used within ubuntu linux
[16:52] <Galactic> how do i resize a window if i cant see the bottom?
[16:52] <Scunizi> biff420: not good if you're going to upgrade later... breakage
[16:52] <Pici> biff420: Please see message above about envy./
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  hold down the ALT key. click in the window . move it up..
[16:53] <bastian> scott_: ook wil do... thx
[16:53] <gmu_ninja> Pici, I haven't installed it yet, i was going to install it using aptitude (the package sendmail).
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  thats howi normally do it. :)
[16:53] <Cynnic> tribaldata: ok, first thing to mention is i'm running kubuntu 7.10, and knetworkmanager won't load. then when i try "NetworkManager" in console it says "Must be root to run NetworkManager" so i "sudo NetworkManager" and it just gives me a prompt
[16:53] <Galactic> its not letting it go any higher I got compiz on might that prevent it?
[16:53] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[16:53] <Dr_willis> Galactic,  or ya can proberly right click on the task manager icon for that tool and look at the menus. proberly has a resize/move option
[16:53] <Pici> gmu_ninja: Does it want to remove stuff if you just do an apt-get upgrade?
[16:54] <gmu_ninja> no
[16:54] <lukasz> Hey People
[16:54] <RoyK> hi. anyone that knows the trick to make the my integrated wireless work with ubuntu? this is a macbook pro
[16:54] <lukasz> How do i detect other OS in grub
[16:54] <Anderson> RoyK, have you checked your iwconfig to see if it is recognized?
[16:54] <scott_> RoyK: get Airport?
[16:54] <RoyK> scott_: what? it's an airport something, but get?
[16:54] <scott_> RoyK: do you have restricted drivers enabled?
[16:54] <RoyK> Anderson: ifconfig doesn't show the nic
[16:54] <lukasz> Anyone know how to detect other operating systems in grub?
[16:55] <RoyK> scott_: is it in there?
[16:55] <Galactic> resize didnt work
[16:55] <tribaldata> Cynnic: did you try running knetwrok manager with sudo  ?
[16:55] <RoyK> lukasz: I don't think grub can autodetect anything
[16:55] <Anderson> RoyK, probably wouldn't if it is off. try iwconfig and see if anything shows up
[16:55] <Galactic>  I just want to be able to save my config changes
[16:55] <lukasz> hmm
[16:55] <Galactic> will enter work?
[16:55] <Galactic> lol
[16:55] <Pici> gmu_ninja: What version of Ubuntu is this?
[16:55] <lukasz> Royk Windows XP won't start
[16:55] <lukasz> It loads into stage2
[16:55] <test5> hello
[16:55] <Pici> !enter
[16:55] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
 truna, runsvdir isnt on this machine..  I was merely saying that it would have done the job.   I'm just wondering why the standard monitoring software failed to start apache after it died
[16:56] <troythetechguy> Why when I make a change to my /boot/grub/menu.lst do I need to run update-grub for the changes to take effect?  Does the menu.lst file not ge
[16:56] <gmu_ninja> Pici, it is 7.04
[16:56] <scott_> lukasz: It needs to be chainlaoded, not just told to go to that partition
[16:56] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[16:56] <Pici> gmu_ninja: Okay, hold on.
[16:56] <mayorbuttes> Hey guys, my laptop always seems to have some kind of error when comign back from hibernating, saying it was unable to hibernate. what can I do to remedy the situation?
[16:56] <methods> crdlb: is gldesktop a compliment or what ?
[16:56] <scott_> It needs to go to the Windows boot.ini/ntldr
[16:56] <Cynnic> tribaldata: just tried "sudo knetworkmanager" and it just gave me a prompt again, didn't ask for password (though i just entered it for the previous test)
[16:56] <gmu_ninja> Pici, Hold on?
[16:56] <truna> lunartear, from additional reading I did find out runsvdir is for BSD like system, ubuntu uses Sys-V like and not bsd even though it has some similar tools
[16:56] <Anderson> RoyK, did you check iwconfig ?
[16:56] <Pici> gmu_ninja: Yes, I need to look something up.
[16:56] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: Yes, you should run update-grub
[16:57] <crdlb> methods: gl desktop (gnome-compiz-manager) is an outdated configurator for compiz
[16:57] <tribaldata> Cynnic: are you in a console in your kde ?
[16:57] <lunartear> truna read my last post
[16:57] <crdlb> methods: it's pretty much useless
[16:57] <methods> yea looks outdated but didn't you just tell me to install it ?
[16:57] <crdlb> no
[16:57] <Cynnic> tribaldata: yes, should i try with ctrl-alt-f1?
[16:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how do i allow my username jason to be able to remove files under groupname nobody on my web directory? i've already added myself to nobody group? but still get Permission denied?
[16:57] <hellboy195> Happy new Year! :D
[16:58] <scott_> lukasz: I'm guessing you installed linux first, then XP.  It's easier if you install XP first, then Ubuntu will set up grub to chain load for you
[16:58] <truna> lunartear, why runsvdir failed to monitor and keep the services alive I dont know, its been a while since i have done BSD like os, how it monitors services and how it captures signals
[16:58] <troythetechguy> SuperQ: I figured this out by changing menu.lst and rebooting; my changes did not take effect.  However, after running update-grub, the changes worked.  I'm just curios to know why this is.
[16:58] <lunartear> truna, lmao read the message again
[16:58] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, if that user is in another group with deny permisssions to that directory, deny takes precedence
[16:58] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, if that user is in another group with deny permisssions to that directory, deny takes precedence
[16:58] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[16:58] <Anderson> sorry about double post
[16:58] <murf> Hi folks... just finished installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my main pc.  Pretty well everything went ok except for my soundcard.  It's a soundblaster xi-fi.  I have the volume control on my desktop but I get no sound and an error when I click on the volume control.
[16:58] <biff420> troythetechguy: i believe grub needs to write the changes to the boot sector on the HD
[16:58] <rainrunner87> Hi all.  I
[16:59] <truna> lunartear, it would have done the job but it has not..so look into its config file?
[16:59] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anderson: thanks but where is this deny take place on the filesystem?
[16:59] <lukasz_> Im back
[16:59] <lukasz_> Chainloader +1 doesn't work scott_
[16:59] <clever> i cant get my sl-modem-daemon to work with this modem
[16:59] <rainrunner87> Hi all.  I just started having trouble with my wireless network card today.  Ever since I rebooted, it hasn't been detected by Network Manager and it doesn't show up in dmesg.
[17:00] <lunartear> truna runsvdir IS NOT on this machine. forget about runsvdir, I was just saying it would have worked.  I want to know why init.d or whatever failed to start apache after it died.
[17:00] <troythetechguy> biff420: So that would mean menu.lst is not read at boot then, right?
[17:00] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: If your changes to the template lines like "# memtest86=true" are just comments picked up and processed by update-grub
[17:00] <nicholas> Hi.
[17:00] <truna> lunartear, i know you said you dont have it on your machine now, go to the machine that has it an check the config files?
[17:00] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, don't know exactly... sorry
[17:00] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:00] <biff420> troythetechguy: i don't think so, i think you write it one and then if it changes it has to be written again
[17:00] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: are/they are
[17:01] <Galactic> hey I did it thanks guys
[17:01] <Anderson> !chmod | UBUNTUISLOVED
[17:01] <ubotu> UBUNTUISLOVED: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[17:01] <nicholas> I said apt-get upgrade Wine, and now it's upgrading millions of things, how do I stop it without messing up the system?
[17:01] <Galactic> it had to do with compiz
[17:01] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anderson: Also to note users and groups is missing under Sytem?
[17:01] <truna> lunartear, init.d function is to start a service at different run levels, its not its job to monitor
[17:01] <Pici> gmu_ninja: I'm not sure. Sorry. seems like everyone wants to replace sendmail with exim, not the other way around.
[17:01] <lukasz_> The thing is load into stage2 in windowsxp
[17:01] <lunartear> truna, then what is suppose to monitor for services that arent running?
[17:01] <gmu_ninja> the problem isn't installing sendmail... the problem is that aptitude want's to remove every package that is installed on the system
[17:01] <lunartear> truna just cron?
[17:02] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, System>>Administration>>UsersAndGroups is missing?
[17:02] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: really, I disagree with the debian/ubuntu way of putting comments in the menu.lst instead of having an /etc/update-grub.conf file to set all those features
[17:02] <truna> lunartear, come to think of it, I dont know what BSD does anymore, does it use run levels like SysV do?
[17:02] <lukasz_> back wrong button
[17:02] <lukasz_> hmm
[17:02] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: As you've noticed, it's confusing
[17:02] <lunartear> truna it uses rc.d
[17:02] <truna> lunartear, init.d function is not to monitor
[17:02] <lukasz_> Im gonna reinstall grub
[17:02] <Pici> lunartear: invoke-rc.d servicename status   should work.
[17:02] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anderson: Yes weird huh
[17:02] <lunartear> truna what monitors then?
[17:03] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anderson: what is the exact command to bring it up?
[17:03] <lunartear> truna just cron?
[17:03] <biff420> murf: did you try going to system>admin>sounds to see which driver you are using?
[17:03] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, standby I'll check it out
[17:03] <truna> lunartear, monitors services in Ubuntu?  let me think of that,,..anyhow its the responsibility of the daemon to restart itself if it fails
[17:04] <Anderson> UBUNTUISLOVED, users-admin you will have to use gksudo with it
[17:04] <crush_groove> is usplash.conf JUST for splash screen res?
[17:04] <lunartear> truna, thats a SPOF. How can a daemon start itself when it fails? that makes absolutely no sense
[17:04] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:04] <SuperQ> troythetechguy: Thankfully it looks like it will be fixed in 8.04: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/grub-configuration-improvements
[17:04] <lukasz_> I will be back
[17:05] <truna> lunartear, a daemon can be written to check its own status and restart a new one if it fails to detect a failed one
[17:05] <murf> biif420: Hi Biff... I don't seem to have a sounds option under admin... there is Sounds under preferences is that it?
[17:05] <lunartear> truna, not if it fails
[17:05] <biff420> murf: yes, sorry thats ti
[17:06] <truna> lunartear, have you heard of signals? if it receive certain signals then it can start a new one, the servicer of the signal
[17:06] <lunartear> truna, there has to be another application that monitors its existance and start it if it doesnt exist
[17:06] <endo_> im not getting much support in #gtkpod on freenode so im going to ask in here
[17:06] <Anderson> RoyK, did you get your wireless working?
[17:06] <endo_> how can I get my classic to work? the database is currupt
[17:06] <lunartear> truna, it cant send a signal if  its NOT running
[17:06] <murf> biff420: It says AUtodetect under most settings...Default Mixer Tracks Device is blank with no available options
[17:06] <truna> lunartear, thats how daemon are made..if you disagree with me, read an article on how to write a daemon
[17:06] <Pici> endo_: That doesnt sound like an Ubuntu problem..
[17:07] <endo_> i knowwwww, but where eles can I ask?
[17:07] <biff420> murf: sounds like you don't have a driver installed
[17:07] <bazhang> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod endo_ also stuff for gtkpod at that link
[17:07] <Pici> !offtopic | endo_ lunartear truna
[17:07] <ubotu> endo_ lunartear truna: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:07] <endo_> bazhang: thanks bro
[17:07] <truna> lunartear, the daemon has to receive the terminating signal first and act upon it..so upon receipt, the signal handler has to do something
[17:07] <lunartear> pici, this is on topic
[17:07] <bazhang> endo_: no worries
[17:07] <Pici> lunartear: daemon design isn't really on-topic for Ubuntu supporty.
[17:07] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:08] <biff420> murf: go here for the latest driver for your card http://opensource.creative.com/
[17:08] <truna> Pici, discussing how a daemon responds to a signal is related to this..how ubuntu handles such..im still learning it
[17:08] <UBUNTUISLOVED> !startup
[17:08] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[17:08] <UBUNTUISLOVED> !boot
[17:08] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[17:08] <murf> biff420: Thanks I'll check it out... any trick to installing the drivers?
[17:08] <biff420> murf: unfornunately, i think you will have to compile one from source unless you can find a .deb out there
[17:08] <lunartear> pici, my topic is that apache died and wasnt restarted. I am trying to find out the proper method on ubuntu to monitor a service so that it is started back up when it dies
[17:08] <biff420> murf: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:09] <ketrox> !acpi
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:09] <truna> Pici anyhow you are right its getting too deep :)
[17:09] <Anderson> !apci
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:09] <murf> biff420: 7.10
[17:09] <Pici> lunartear: Many people write cron jobs that test to see if a specifed service is running and restart it if it isnt.
[17:09] <biff420> murf: 32 bit i assume?
[17:09] <ketrox> !dsdt
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsdt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:09] <murf> biff420: yes
[17:09] <Pici> !botabuse
[17:09] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:10] <biff420> murf: check out that site...there should be a readme on how to install them
[17:10] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:10] <chazco> Hi... i'm creating a .deb for a propriety application... Is there an "accepted" way of setting up mime.types/file associations (it uses the file extensions .tmd and .pmd) I should use? I'm aiming for as great a range of compatibility as possible.
[17:10] <Strauss> hello
[17:10] <Strauss> how is the german ubuntu channel
[17:10] <murf> biff420: thanks again... just looking at the site now.
[17:10] <jpatrick> !de | Strauss
[17:10] <ubotu> Strauss: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:11] <Strauss> thx
[17:11] <Strauss> cucu - happy new year
[17:11] <Strauss> exit
[17:11] <crush_groove> I probably shouldnt be fooling with stuff in /dev If I am just exploring .. should I ?
[17:12] <Anderson> crush_groove, if you don't have any vital data... fool with eeverything
[17:12] <Anderson> crush_groove, systems can be restored, apps can be re-installed
[17:12] <crush_groove> heh .. my thoughts exactly
[17:12] <Anderson> crush_groove, systems can be restored, apps can be re-installed
[17:12] <Anderson> oops
[17:12] <biff420> murf: creatives main site has the drivers as well
[17:12] <Anderson> sorry
[17:13] <crush_groove>  just saw all the yellow and reconsidered a second
[17:13] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:13] <biff420> murf: us.creative.com
[17:13] <methods> crdlb: ever since fusion i havn't been able to use the showe desktop plugin :[ it doesn't work when i move my mouse to the right top corner
[17:13] <crdlb> methods: the "Show Desktop" plugin is just an effect, go to General Options and set the edge binding for "Hide all windows and focus desktop"
[17:14] <crush_groove> is there a method thru which to better understand fstab.conf .. I understand the premise but my actual fstab I am having difficulty deciphering
[17:14] <methods> well i removed the gldesktop thing where do i find the starter for the other tool you told me about ?   is it advanced desktop affects ?
[17:14] <linxeh> crush_groove: man fstab
[17:15] <Moul1> what is the console used most often for?
[17:15] <th0r> crush_groove http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/etc_fstab_broken_down_and_explained
[17:15] <linxeh> Moul1: fixing things
[17:15] <crush_groove> heads to off-topic
[17:15] <crdlb> methods: the package is compizcofig-settings-manager and the menu item is Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[17:15] <truna> what the heck..which one was first update-rc.d or invoke-rc.d  why two tools doing same function?
[17:15] <linxeh> Moul1: xterm / similar are used for programming, building software, processing data etc
[17:15] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:15] <nicholas> I really need help...
[17:15] <cabrioleur> Moul1: everything!!!!
[17:16] <murf> biff420: Just looking at the Creative site now.. the only driver I can see for the X-Fi is a 64bit beta driver.  I can't see any mention of a 32bit version.
[17:16] <nicholas> I was upgrading with apt-get upgrade and closed the window, but it didn't stop...
[17:16] <nicholas> I can't use apt-get at all now.
[17:16] <nicholas> Help?
[17:16] <ynef> nicholas: doesn't it give you an error message?
[17:16] <methods> anyone know how i can stop the computer beep from coming over my speakers ?
[17:16] <movela> please help; how do i open ports on ubuntu?
[17:16] <ompaul> nicholas, what does it say if you try to apt-get update ?
[17:16] <linxeh> truna: they do different things
[17:16] <cabrioleur> nicholas: remove the lock file.
[17:16] <biff420> murf: wierd...thats all i saw too...of course im running 64 bit so i figured it detected that when i clicked on the link
[17:16] <ynef> movela: what do you mean by "open ports"?
[17:16] <linxeh> truna: update installs/removes them, invoke runs them
[17:17] <ynef> movela: programs upen ports when they need them, are you talking about a firewall that restricts you?
[17:17] <rainrunner87> Does anyone have a guess as to why a wireless network card would suddenly stop being detected after a reboot?
[17:17] <movela> ynef: open/closed ports; w/out a firewall
[17:17] <truna> linxeh, doesnt invoke also installs them in the level it supposed to run?
[17:17] <biff420> murf: i don think it matters since it appears to be a source package...when you install it will compile it of your system so 64 or 32 bit should work
[17:17] <nicholas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:17] <nicholas> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:17] <scott__> !gnash
[17:17] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[17:17] <dumnut> hi, does 7.10 desktop distro work on laptop? i want to install that on my laptop.
[17:17] <ynef> rainrunner87: did you compile ndiswrapper or some other kernel module by yourself and update the kernel?
[17:17] <cabrioleur> nicholas: sudo rm -fv /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:17] <chazco> Hi... i'm creating a .deb for a propriety application... Is there an "accepted" way of setting up mime.types/file associations (it uses the file extensions .tmd and .pmd) I should use? I'm aiming for as great a range of compatibility as possible.
[17:18] <scott__> dumnut: very well
[17:18] <murf> biff420: I'll give it a hook and see what happens... d/ling now
[17:18] <ynef> movela: what seems to be the problem?
[17:18] <movela> i don't know why my bittorrent port is closed now... it was open at first... i don't have a firewall
[17:18] <ompaul> nicholas, try this ps auwx | grep apt-get     does it return anything
[17:18] <scott__> dumnut: wireless has gotten a lot better in most linux distros in the last 2 years
[17:18] <biff420> murf: good luck...i'll bet the readme is decent enough to follow for the install
[17:18] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:18] <linxeh> truna: dont think so
[17:18] <truna> rainrunner87, check the log messages for what happened to your wireless at boot..it may have not loaded the module or failed..
[17:18] <dumnut> cool, thank-you for answering me and wreless tip scott__
[17:18] <pistola> ciao  a tutti
[17:18] <arbri> hello i got problems installint ubuntu 7.10
[17:18] <biff420> !pidgin
[17:18] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[17:19] <scott__> dumnut: and also power saving has seen some improvement.  It's worth a try at least.
[17:19] <nicholas> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo rm -fv /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:19] <nicholas> removed `/var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[17:19] <movela> ynef: i installed kde/xubuntu desktops, after this problem showed... now i fully uninstalled them but ports are still closed
[17:19] <linxeh> truna: at least, it doesnt according to the manpage
[17:19] <biff420> arbri: more info please
[17:19] <ynef> movela: ubuntu doesn't use a firewall by default, so it might be your router/modem that is messing you up?
[17:19] <cabrioleur> nicholas: it works now
[17:19] <Sncza> hey. i got 2 ftps, and i want to sync between them so i will able to do ftp mirror copy in cause of crash... is rsync good for me?
[17:19] <rainrunner87> truna: Which log file would you recommend looking at?  /var/log/debug?
[17:19] <linxeh> Sncza: yes
[17:19] <nicholas> No.
[17:19] <Sncza> and how do i use it? i need to install server
[17:19] <nicholas> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[17:19] <nicholas> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:20] <arbri> when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 (everything goest alright) until in the end the bootloader fails to start
[17:20] <truna> linxeh, kind of confusing...from man page those  init levels  1-99
[17:20] <linxeh> Sncza: no, you can do rsync over ssh quite easily
[17:20] <linxeh> truna: why ?
[17:20] <cabrioleur> nicholas: this is another issue. just run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[17:20] <truna> rainrunner87, /var/log/messages
[17:20] <rainrunner87> truna: danke.
[17:20] <jeezers> can anyone get me a nice tut on building/making apps in ubuntu?
[17:20] <linxeh> truna: the status codes?
[17:20] <cabrioleur> nicholas: sorry, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[17:20] <Sncza> ssh? i got ftp....
[17:20] <Sncza> is that better?
[17:20] <biff420> arbi: does it give you an error message
[17:21] <scott__> jeezers: you should check out kdevelop
[17:21] <arbri> yes
[17:21] <jeezers> okay!
[17:21] <arbri> grub failed to start
[17:21] <nicholas> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:21] <nicholas> Setting up ubufox (0.4~beta1-0ubuntu6) ...
[17:21] <nicholas> Setting up sound-juicer (2.20.1-0ubuntu1) ...
[17:21] <linxeh> Sncza: you will want to run rsync over ssh. really you should be using sftp or scp instead of normal ftp anyway (ftp sends passwords in plaintext generally)
[17:21] <truna> linxeh, i got them confused with the S and K
[17:21] <Pici> nicholas:Just let it go, we dont need to know what its doing,.
[17:21] <ompaul> nicholas, stop pasting everything you should be okay
[17:21] <cabrioleur> nicholas: it works now.
[17:21] <jeezers> er. . . i guess u mistook me, i meant to setup programs tat i've downloaded, not develop. . .
[17:21] <movela> ynef: thanks i found something on ubuntugeek i will try out
[17:21] <dumnut> scott__ neat then i can use laptop like at tavern for longer.
[17:21] <scott__> jeezers: like deb packages?
[17:21] <ksbalaji_> Hi
[17:21] <Sncza> anyone can paste me the command of rsync? i see here only from a dir to dir in local cpu
[17:22] <jeezers> yeah
[17:22] <murf> biif420: lol... This product will only support 64-bit Operating System.  Setup will now exit... no joy... bummer... odd to see 64 bit drivers with no 32 bit... usually the other way around.
[17:22] <Anderson> I am having a problem getting my touchscreen and touchpad to work correctly, they seem to be related somehow, and both are exhibiting the same behaviour.  When i touch either the pointer goes to a semi-unpredictable position and does a double tap
[17:22] <nicholas> Ok.
[17:22] <jeezers> i downloaded this mplayer files, but cant figure out how to install it
[17:22] <nicholas> Why is it setting up things then?
[17:22] <arbri> besides it fails to recognize that i have already ms windows installed
[17:22] <scott__> dumnut: yes,... for taverns.
[17:22] <biff420> arbri: can you get into console mode at all?
[17:22] <Pici> nicholas: Because you said you quit it in the middle of an upgrade.
[17:22] <arbri> nopr
[17:22] <methods> crdlb: where do you see edge binding ?
[17:22] <arbri> no
[17:22] <cabrioleur> nicholas: because you interrupted the installation some way, so it's finishing the job before it can do more.
[17:22] <scott__> jeezers: you're better off selecting mplayer in synaptic package manager (System>Administration) and then you will have all the dependencies to go with it
[17:23] <nicholas> Ok, can I stop those installations without messing up the system?
[17:23] <biff420> arbri: you might need to load the live cd again and then do a repair console...then you could try typing update-grub
[17:23] <scott__> jeezers: it will even download them for you
[17:23] <crdlb> methods: double click on the row and a dialog will pop up where you can check TopRight
[17:23] <arbri> how do i do that
[17:23] <cabrioleur> nicholas: it will mess up if you stop.
[17:23] <arbri> ?
[17:23] <jeezers> well. . . learning experience:D! and anyway, i've downloaded it and my net's kinda slow!
[17:23] <cabrioleur> nicholas: let it finish. It's actually fixing things.
[17:23] <methods> crdlb: row ?
[17:23] <nicholas> Ok.
[17:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I can't enable desktop effects
[17:24] <nicholas> It will probably upgrade my Wine to from .46 to .50?
[17:24] <scott__> jeezers: synaptic can install from a local file, or run sudo apt-get -i /path/to/filename.deb
[17:24] <crdlb> methods: did you find General Options > Bindings yet?
[17:24] <ksbalaji_> I have gutsy 7.10. I tinkered with this and my video is gone. I  see vertical color lines instead of video.  Probably my players are not able to run X11 codec. Please help!
[17:24] <jeezers> cool! will try it out
[17:24] <biff420> arbri: put the cd back in the drive and reboot...when it comes up there will be a choice for a recover console or something like that
[17:24] <methods> crdlb:  no thats what i mean im looking everhwere in options
[17:24] <crdlb> methods: it's the last tab of General Options
[17:24] <YourOnlyRealFrie> I cannot enable CUSTOM VISUAL EFFECTS
[17:24] <methods> mine says actions
[17:24] <crdlb> close enough :)
[17:24] <arbri> i already looked for that but i dont see a recover console
[17:25] <nicholas> How do I use apt-get upgrade to upgrade only one program?
[17:25] <crdlb> (that's it)
[17:25] <crdlb> YourOnlyRealFrie: join #compiz-fusion please
[17:25] <cabrioleur> nicholas: 'sudo apt-get upgrade nameofthesoftware'
[17:25] <Pici> nicholas: Ask it to install that package, it'll grab the most recent version"
[17:25] <nicholas> That is what I did.
[17:25] <nicholas> Ok.
[17:25] <biff420> arbri: you could just try reinstalling as it sounds like grub was not loaded anyways
[17:25] <arbri> i tryd two times
[17:25] <YourOnlyRealFrie> how do I enabled desktop effects?
[17:26] <nicholas> I said sudo apt-get upgrade wine and it started installing everything else.
[17:26] <YourOnlyRealFrie> again?
[17:26] <arbri> and it gave me the same error
[17:26] <nicholas> Ok, i'll just use install.
[17:26] <methods> crdlb: am i out dated or somtehing ? ill show you a screen shot if you want
[17:26] <ompaul> !compiz | YourOnlyRealFrie
[17:26] <technofreak> can some one pastebin their grub.conf entry for ubuntu gutsy?
[17:26] <ubotu> YourOnlyRealFrie: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:26] <Mr_Sonoma> YourOnlyRealFrie, please seek help for compiz in #compiz-fusion
[17:26] <biff420> arbri: does it give you that error when you reboot or during install?
[17:26] <arbri> during install
[17:26] <YourOnlyRealFrie> OK THANKS GUYS
[17:26] <Anderson> !offtopic
[17:26] <arbri> more precisely in the end
[17:26] <nicholas> Something is  wrong with it now.
[17:26] <scott__> YourOnlyRealFrie: System>Preferences>Appearance
[17:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:26] <nicholas> It finished.
[17:27] <ompaul> nicholas, do sudo apt-get update
[17:27] <nicholas> "nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$ dpkg -l wine
[17:27] <nicholas> dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0067' near line 1:
[17:27] <nicholas>  newline in field name `#padding'
[17:27] <nicholas> nicholas@nicholas-desktop:~$
[17:27] <nicholas> "
[17:27] <biff420> arbri: are you using a raid array?
[17:27] <arbri> ????
[17:27] <arbri> what is it exactly
[17:28] <arbri> ?
[17:28] <Anderson> I am having trouble with my touchpad. WHen I touch it it sends the pointer to a semi unpredictable location, and performs doubletap
[17:28] <biff420> arbri: do you have one hard drive?
[17:28] <wers> Happy new year to you, guys, and your families! Have a great '08!
[17:28] <arbri> yes
[17:28] <cabrioleur> wers: happy new year to you too.
[17:28] <arbri> but i have already partitioned the hard drive
[17:29] <jeezers> am having problems with the text, the menu in xmms and audacity isnt seen!
[17:29] <cabrioleur> nicholas: remove the package and install it again
[17:29] <nicholas> WIne?
[17:29] <biff420> arbri: ok, do you think that the cd might be bad..its possible its not able to read from it when installing grub...could you reburn?
[17:29] <Anderson> I am having trouble with my touchpad. WHen I touch it it sends the pointer to a semi unpredictable location, and performs doubletap
[17:29] <arbri> no i checked it
[17:29] <cabrioleur> nicholas: yes
[17:29] <nicholas> Ok.
[17:29] <Anderson> th0r, hey, I was hoping you would show up
[17:29] <th0r> Anderson hey....still no luck?
[17:30] <Anderson> th0r, nah, since I saw that thing about inputs and it not seeming to match up I held off on using your xorg.conf info
[17:30] <RoyK> Anderson: I don't have more than one computer here, so I haven't bothered rebooting back into ubuntu yet
[17:30] <cabrioleur> Anderson: looks like you are using wrong drivers.
[17:30] <arbri> no i checked with with "integrity check"
[17:30] <dots> Anyone here have a broadcom modem?
[17:30] <ksbalaji_> Hi YourOnlyRealFriend ! I have gutsy 7.10. I tinkered with this and my video is gone. I  see vertical color lines instead of video.  Probably my players are not able to run X11 codec. Please help!
[17:30] <RoyK> Anderson: perhaps if I can get qemu working on os x, running them in parallel
[17:30] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50279/plain/
[17:30] <biff420> Anyone, arbri is having a problem where grub is not being installed during his installation of Ubunut.
[17:31] <th0r> Anderson let me have a sec...see what else I might find
[17:31] <Anderson> cabrioleur, tried evdev and synaptics, but i think the touchpad is somehow tied into the touchscreen, which is a Fujitsu something or other
[17:31] <Anderson> th0r, k thanks
[17:31] <arbri> thnx biff420
[17:31] <Anderson> RoyK, alright, do you have access to a hard line?
[17:31] <sandr-> Happy newyear everybody, see you next year
[17:31] <cabrioleur> Anderson: try regular imps/2
[17:31] <biff420> arbri: sorry I don't know what else to look for
[17:31] <arbri> thnx anyway
[17:31] <th0r> Anderson what is the laptop make/model?
[17:32] <Anderson> th0r, Panasonic Toughbook cf-18
[17:32] <sandr-> Happy newyear everybody, see you next year
[17:32] <th0r> Anderson I've always wanted a toughbook <smile>
[17:32] <ksbalaji_> Hi ompaul! I have gutsy 7.10. I tinkered with this and my video is gone. I  see vertical color lines instead of video.  Probably my players are not able to run X11 codec. Please help!
[17:32] <th0r> Anderson found this....http://suseforums.net/lofiversion/index.php/t21663.html
[17:32] <Anderson> cabrioleur, what package is that a part off.
[17:32] <Anderson> th0r, expensive retail... ebay
[17:32] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50281/plain/
[17:33] <arbri> exit
[17:33] <cabrioleur> nicholas: try sudo dpkg -r wine
[17:33] <Anderson> th0r, reading
[17:33] <nicholas> That didn't work.
[17:33] <cabrioleur> Anderson: xorg
[17:33] <crdlb> methods: sorry I'm just using a different version of compiz fusion and I forgot the name of that tab in the old version :)
[17:33] <nicholas> Another parse error.
[17:34] <th0r> Anderson the last message on that page....
[17:34] <SmartUnix> I have external hard disk, it's new but i can't sotre files which have Arabic file name, is this problem from system?
[17:34] <jeezers> hey! i have problems with text in menu. . . its not shown in audacity and xmms. . .any idea?
[17:34] <SmartUnix> Sorry for my English
[17:34] <Anderson> cabrioleur, so it's installed by default...
[17:34] <ompaul> !codecs | ksbalaji_
[17:34] <ubotu> ksbalaji_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:34] <cabrioleur> Anderson: go to your xorg.conf and change the driver to imps/2
[17:34] <cabrioleur> Anderson: yes
[17:35] <Anderson> cabrioleur, I'll try that, if that doesn't workj I will look into emperor
[17:35] <blueskiesokie> Does anyone know an easy way to setup a script to check for process, kill it if it is stuck, and then run the new process?
[17:35] <ompaul> nicholas, sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get update if that works let me know then we can look at removing wine
[17:35] <goldphish> I created a custom kernel package but the auto updater wants to install the one from the respository. How can I tell it I will manage the kernel manually?
[17:35] <Anderson> th0r, I'm gonna try this imps/2 and if that doesn't work I will take a stab at emperor.
[17:35] <cabrioleur> blueskiesokie: stuck? meaning like zombie.
[17:35] <Anderson> th0r, I am being dragged away again though, gotta feed the family.
[17:36] <th0r> Anderson another attack....have you thought about trying ndiswrapper? I know it is usually for network devices...but might work
[17:36] <Anderson> th0r, k, I'll give that a shot too
[17:36] <RoyK> Anderson: not right now
[17:36]  * RoyK is cooking and isn't really doing much computer-nerdish today
[17:36] <blueskiesokie> yea .. i run a script fromcron every ten minutes. somtimes it gets stuck and doesn't die like its suppossed to . it access the serial port, so every time after that the new instances will go zombie too
[17:36] <Anderson> th0r, I am beginning to suspect this is deeper than drivers though, because of the /proc/bus/input/devices output
[17:37] <th0r> Anderson I rather suspect it might be.
[17:37] <th0r> Anderson but worth playing with
[17:37] <Anderson> th0r, yea, but I have to feed the family now, I will play later. THey are starting to fight...
[17:37] <Anderson> th0r, thanks again. cya
[17:37] <th0r> Anderson I'll be glad to take the toughbook off your hands if you get fed up <smile>
[17:37] <blueskiesokie> and i looses all the data i am collecting, cause my process won't run correctly
[17:37] <Anderson> cabrioleur, thanks for the advice
[17:38] <Anderson> th0r, haha, not gonna happen, i appreciate the offer though
[17:38] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50286/
[17:38] <nicholas> It didn't work.
[17:38] <Hammer89> how do I change what programs automatically start when I boot up Ubuntu?
[17:38] <Anderson> RoyK, if iwconfig does show a wireless device present, use ifconfig to bring it up, and then use dhclient to grab an address
[17:38] <vocifer> hey hey
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> blueskiesokie: It sounds more like you need to add some error checking to the script rather than a different script to kill the first one and re-start it.
[17:38] <pppoe_dude> hmmphsss
[17:39] <crush_groove> goldphish,  apt ?
[17:39] <biff420> Hammer89L go to system>prefs>sessions
[17:39] <nicholas> The same interruption error.
[17:39] <Hammer89> biff420: thanks :)
[17:39] <nicholas> It's asking me to restart, but i'm wondering if it will even boot back up after this.
[17:40] <vocifer> hmm could someone help me with this really stupid problem
[17:40] <warren_> hello
[17:40] <nickrud> SmartUnix, you might find this forum useful, I thought there was an arabic irc channel but can't find it: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=264
[17:40] <warren_> someone knows if i can find a package for amule-cvs somewhere?
[17:40] <warren_> because i can't compile it
[17:40] <cabrioleur> blueskiesokie: "kill -HUP `ps -A -ostat,ppid,pid,cmd | grep -e '^[Zz]' | awk '{print $2}'`"
[17:40] <ksbalaji_> \leave
[17:40] <ksbalaji_> thanks
[17:40] <cabrioleur> nicholas: it will.
[17:40] <nickrud> ompaul, is there an arabic irc channel?
[17:40] <SmartUnix> nickrud, Thanks :)
[17:41] <nicholas> Ok, i'll restart and come back on here.
[17:41] <ompaul> nickrud, #ubuntu-sa
[17:41] <nickrud> SmartUnix, #ubuntu-sa
[17:41] <vocifer> how do i know if i have a 32 bit version or a 64 version???
[17:41] <chazco> What terminal command will search a directory for files containing a given word?
[17:42] <ompaul> chazco, in the directory       grep  YourWordHere *
[17:42] <daffodil> hi everyone, trying to set up evolution to check my local mail, but not sure what directory to specify, my /home/user directory doesn't seem to be it
[17:42] <chazco> Ah, thanks :) Tried it with grep * word
[17:42] <ompaul> chazco, to ignore case   grep -i  YourWordHere *
[17:43] <nickrud> daffodil, /var/spool/mail/<you>
[17:43] <chazco> Trying to work out why I have a duplicate entry in the "Open with" list
[17:43] <daffodil> nickrud:  traversed there, but that directory doesn't seem to exist :(
[17:44] <daffodil> is there something i haven't set up?
[17:45] <rainrunner87> truna: Been slogging through it for a while, still don't see anything useful.  Would you mind taking a look at it?
[17:46] <truna> rainrunner87, paste it on a pastebin and lets look, no guarantees though :)
[17:46] <cabrioleur> daffodil: what are you using as a mail fetcher?
[17:46] <daffodil> cabrioleur:  that's a good question... i have getmail installed, but not anything else that i know of
[17:46] <profanephobia> how can i find out why apt cant lock the list dir when nothing else should be using it?
[17:46] <daffodil> should i install fetchmail?
[17:47] <QuBe_> Happy New Year from Singapore
[17:47] <cabrioleur> daffodil: getmail is fine. Just set it up.
[17:47] <SpiffyBalak> hey guys. I think I've found the problem that doesn't let me unmount my flash drive
[17:47] <SpiffyBalak> something to with sync or async
[17:48] <SpiffyBalak> it only happens sometimes
[17:48] <rainrunner87> truna: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50288/
[17:48] <truna> rainrunner87, what was I supposed to look for? refresh me please
[17:48] <Feris> Hi, Which is the best tutorial of python to no programmers?
[17:50] <rainrunner87> truna: We're looking for why my laptop's broadcom wifi card wasn't loaded at boot.  NM doesn't detect it, dmesg doesn't list anything about it.
[17:50] <cabrioleur> Feris: look at the source code of others and figure it out.
[17:50] <SpiffyBalak> Feris; Python Programing for the Absolute Beginner is a good book I used, but there's also A Byte of Python online for free
[17:50] <rainrunner87> It was loaded yesterday, but when I rebooted last night it didn't get loaded.
[17:50] <nicholas> Hi. I restarted.
[17:50] <crush_groove>  -e -f -T <<>> etc are arguments ?
[17:51] <QuBe_> anyplace where ps3 ubuntu is being discussed specifically?
[17:51] <Ropechoborra> Hi, im trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 in my Olivetti Notebook. But after selecting "Start or Install ubuntu" it just hungs up. What can i do?
[17:51] <QuBe_>  have it installed now, typing on exchat
[17:51] <truna> okay
[17:51] <tyoc> people, if I delete a directory like rm -r ~/some/deleteme with all is subcontes, why ~$ locate some also return results of that deleted directory???
[17:51] <tyoc> is a cache or something like that?
[17:51] <truna> wow Olivetti still makes computers..
[17:52] <cabrioleur> tyoc: yes. do updatedb as root.
[17:52] <nicholas> Cabrioleur?
[17:52] <cabrioleur> nicholas: did you fix it?
[17:52] <truna> Ropechoborra, sometimes you may have to wait long enuff..can be as long as 10 minutes
[17:53] <QuBe_> got Rythmbox to work after having had to install GTStreamer plugins
[17:53] <nicholas> No.
[17:53] <Ropechoborra> truna why so much? =/
[17:53] <truna> tyoc, because the locate db has not been updated yet, upon update, those will be gone
[17:54] <truna> Ropechoborra, i dont know, takes a long time for stuff to load, slow cdrom and such?
[17:54] <BetaTest> !compiz
[17:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:54] <crush_groove> !arguments
[17:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arguments - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:54] <Ropechoborra> truna dont think so, its a new notebook
[17:54] <mikebeecham> hey guys...when I use gconf-editor to change the panel icon...nothing happens.  If I go to "add to panel" then the icon I have chosen is there correctly, but the moment it goes onto the panel it changes to the Ubuntu logo...can anyone help me sort this out please?
[17:54] <cabrioleur> nicholas: you can go to extremes now: "dpkg -r --force-all wine" if it shows it will remove something else, don't do that.
[17:55] <BetaTest> Is Compiz worth installing?
[17:55] <crush_groove> -r is an arguement ..  or is dpkg the argument and -r the switch?
[17:55] <crdlb> BetaTest: assuming you're on ubuntu gutsy, it's already installed
[17:55] <truna> Ropechoborra, i dont know then, you have to be just patient and see how it goes
[17:55] <matx2pt0> >_< Compiz breaks for me tbf
[17:56] <nicholas> Can we chat privately cabrioleur?
[17:56] <BetaTest> crdlb I'm not :/
[17:56] <crdlb> BetaTest: what are you on then?
[17:57] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50292/plain/
[17:57] <techno_freak> need help in reinstalling grub from live cd..
[17:57] <nicholas> It didn't work.
[17:57] <BetaTest> Ubuntu 7.1, and I was told I need to download a few files, and install an app or two
[17:57] <EvaLuaTe> !oom
[17:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:58] <techno_freak> i have sda0  as swap, sda1 as root, now how will i reinstall grub? what is the entry for root (sdx,x) ?
[17:58] <Pici> BetaTest: Ubuntu 7.10 is Gutsy.
[17:58] <BetaTest> Pici I was talking to my friend last night, and he said it wasn't, so I took his word :/
[17:58] <EvaLuaTe> does anyone know how i could install oom kill on ubuntu please ?
[17:59] <bronxman> http://www.test-it.lx.am/?uid=28301
[17:59] <bronxman> http://www.test-it.lx.am/?uid=28301
[17:59] <bronxman> http://www.test-it.lx.am/?uid=28301
[17:59] <BetaTest> All right, now leave
[17:59] <nicholas> Help?
[17:59] <zobban> wow this is taking to long time its been 3 hours now i am convertin from .avi to mpg i have 400mb of 664 total size of .avi
[18:00] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: What is oom kill?
[18:00] <EvaLuaTe> Oom_kill is a small application that is run as a system service to watch the memory consumption of the processes on the system.
[18:00] <EvaLuaTe> Pici: http://mirsi.home.cern.ch/mirsi/oom_kill/index.html
[18:00] <BetaTest> Pici I've seen computers with like a 3D cube type desktop, and I was told that it's part of Compiz, but I can't figure out how to do that, so I'm assuming I need to update/install something?
[18:01] <matx2pt0> BetaTest, its beryl/ compiz fusion
[18:01] <mssever> !ccsm
[18:01] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[18:01] <crdlb> BetaTest: what video card?
[18:01] <mikebeecham> hey guys...when I use gconf-editor to change the panel icon...nothing happens.  If I go to "add to panel" then the icon I have chosen is there correctly, but the moment it goes onto the panel it changes to the Ubuntu logo...can anyone help me sort this out please?
[18:01] <BetaTest> NVIDIA 6150
[18:01] <truna> BetaTest, minimum you have to have a video card that supports 3D
[18:01] <crdlb> BetaTest: go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[18:02] <BetaTest> Right, that's on Extra
[18:02] <crdlb> BetaTest: so do you have wobbly windows, etc?
[18:02] <BetaTest> Yup yup
[18:02] <crdlb> so you have compiz.
[18:02] <mssever> BetaTest, Install ccsm, then
[18:03] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: I don't see any package like that in the Ubuntu repositories.
[18:03] <endo> I want to install libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb but I get an error that says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxine1"
[18:04] <EvaLuaTe> Pici: i know, also i didn't find any download link for it.
[18:04] <Pici> EvaLuaTe: moomps *might* do what you want
[18:04] <rainrunner87> truna: Any luck so far?
[18:04] <Pici> !info moomps
[18:04] <ubotu> moomps: Modular Object Oriented Multi-Purpose Service. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6-2 (gutsy), package size 379 kB, installed size 1780 kB
[18:04] <zobban> wow this is taking to long time its been 3 hours now i am convertin from .avi to mpg i have 400mb of 664 total size of .avi  is it okay or i am doing sometghing wrong
[18:04] <tyoc> cabrioleur and truna thanks for the info
[18:05] <truna> rainrunner87, i thought you said nevermind? your paste does not show your wireless broadcom is detected, only ethernet
[18:05] <mssever> zobban, conversion often takes a long time
[18:05] <truna> tyoc, you're welcome
[18:06] <rainrunner87> truna Ahh... Didn't say nevermind, sorry about whatever I may have said that caused confusion.  As far as the detection, do you remember what line it detects the ethernet in?
[18:06] <truna> zobban, umm just for comparison, a friend of mine attempts to partition and format a 150gig, took 45 mins..
[18:07] <endo> I want to install libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb but I get an error that says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxine1"
[18:07] <truna> rainrunner87, i dont have your paste anymore, but look through it carefully you'd see broadcom
[18:07] <nicholas> Cabrioleur?
[18:08] <zcode> After you login there is a brown/yellowish screen appears for a few seconds before the desktop is up.  How do you change the color of this screen?
[18:09] <NetLarIrvine> I added a folder to my shared folders on Kubuntu, but I still do not see it on my Mac, can anyone help me?
[18:09] <nicholas> Anyone?
[18:10] <zobban> my cpu is 1.8ghz amd athlon 566ddr memory 80 gb hardrive
[18:10] <rainrunner87> truna: Ah, well, thanks for the look-over.  Sorry to take up the time without progress.
[18:10] <NetLarIrvine> Anyone that can help sure
[18:10] <crossmind> Hi, I need some help with my graphic card device... its a GeForce FX5200 256MB 128Bits inno3D, I need the driver to ENABLE opengl...
[18:11] <crossmind> someone...?
[18:11] <blueskiesokie> thanks, think a combination of that will work for me
[18:11] <mikebeecham> hey guys...when I use gconf-editor to change the panel icon...nothing happens.  If I go to "add to panel" then the icon I have chosen is there correctly, but the moment it goes onto the panel it changes to the Ubuntu logo...can anyone help me sort this out please?
[18:11] <KalEl> hi crossmind, please install the restricted NVidia driver for your GeForce FX5200 card.
[18:11] <RoxanneEDM> good morning.... quick question, whats the best program to copy a DVD
[18:11] <mirak> is there a way to fsck on ntfs filesystem ?
[18:11] <crossmind> hmm
[18:12] <th0r> RoxanneEDM dvdshrink
[18:12] <crossmind> but, I dont know where to download...
[18:12] <RoxanneEDM> th0r: it will do a straight 1:1 copy?
[18:12] <crossmind> I downloaded a Driver from www.superdownloads.com.br but its .RUN and dont works in my UBUNTU...
[18:12] <blueskiesokie> cabrioleur: thanks, think a combination of that will work for me
[18:12] <KalEl> hi mirak, in order to do that you need to download the ntfsprogs package.
[18:12] <r3m0t> RoxanneEDM: if your destination disc is large enough, yes
[18:13] <RoxanneEDM> ok thank you guys
[18:13] <th0r> RoxanneEDM no...for a one to one I always create an iso first, then burn it in the normal fashion
[18:13] <r3m0t> RoxanneEDM: if you're running ubuntu, you will need to run it in wine. works well though
[18:13] <Pici> crossmind: Just use the tool in system>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[18:13] <crossmind> ok I'll try :D thanks!
[18:14] <RoxanneEDM> isnt there anything that just comes with ubuntu, that i can use?
[18:14] <BetaTest> !beryl
[18:14] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:14] <endo> I want to install libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb but I get an error that says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxine1"
[18:14] <RoxanneEDM> something that "just works"
[18:14] <crossmind> I'll reboot
[18:14] <th0r> RoxanneEDM brasero and k3b come to mind
[18:14] <r3m0t> RoxanneEDM: you asked for the best. dvdshrink is simple and works well for me
[18:14] <dots> anyone had success getting internet to work with broadcom chipset?
[18:14] <r3m0t> but now, I am off
[18:15] <truna> i got disconnected..missed some messages
[18:15] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here gotten flash to work with ubuntu 64-bit?  I tried manually copying the file from the tarball to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ and it still doesn't detect it
[18:15] <jewbilee> Is there any news on the flashplugin-nonfree?
[18:15] <penguinguy> Im having a problem with my D-Link WUA-2340 usb adapter. I think it needs restricted drivers, but the restricted drivers manager  says I don't need restricted drivers. What should I do?
[18:16] <dots> i tried enable restricting drivers and ubuntu wont let me
[18:16] <dots> either nvidia or broadcom
[18:16] <lex> FunnyLookinHat: there's posts about it on the fourms; search ;-)
[18:16] <KalEl> hi FunnyLookinHat, right now Adobe changed the tar file beaking the Ubuntu installation references. If you need to install flash immediately please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[18:16] <Joelito> Hi all! What package do you recommend me to create GUI applications for gnome?
[18:16] <FunnyLookinHat> KalEl, lex    thanks guys!
[18:17] <dots> Joelito: prob gtk. but i like wxwidgets better
[18:17] <KalEl> However, FunnyLookinHat, it is recommended to wait for the official fix.
[18:17] <Zarxrax> I just tried booting from the ubuntu cd in my laptop. It got to the desktop, and now I cant do anything. There is no mouse cursor, and no buttons on the keyboard seem to do anything.
[18:17] <Joelito> dots: wxWidgets?
[18:17] <FunnyLookinHat> KalEl, yea yea   :)     I'm cool with working through unstable fixes      thanks  :)
[18:18] <dots> yea. what language will you be using?
[18:18] <x_zeuss> how can i view video streamings in firefox for pages that require windows media player 11 ?
[18:18] <RoxanneEDM> looks like i might need DVDshrink... the disc is 7.2 GB
[18:18] <mikebeecham> hey guys...when I use gconf-editor to change the panel icon...nothing happens.  If I go to "add to panel" then the icon I have chosen is there correctly, but the moment it goes onto the panel it changes to the Ubuntu logo...can anyone help me sort this out please?
[18:18] <crdlb> Joelito: the easiest well-supported platform is python + pygtk
[18:19] <crossmind> MAN! THANKS!
[18:19] <crossmind> ITS WORKS T_________T
[18:19] <freebird> hi
[18:19] <crossmind> "ALELUIA"
[18:19] <crossmind> ;DDDDDDDDDD
[18:19] <x_zeuss> how can i view video streamings in firefox for pages that require windows media player 11 ?
[18:19] <FunnyLookinHat> KalEl, that worked!  Thanks man
[18:19] <th0r> x_zeuss vlc can do wmv
[18:19] <crossmind> algum BR aqui:
[18:19] <crossmind> ?
[18:19] <th0r> x_zeuss so can mplayer I think
[18:20] <|_James_Bond_|> happy new year for all...
[18:20] <x_zeuss> i'll try vlc
[18:20] <rgnr> !sdl
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <KalEl> FunnyLookinHat, crossmind, you are very welcome.
[18:20] <rgnr> need to install sdl libraries
[18:20] <crossmind> :DDDD~
[18:20] <Pelo> afternoon folks
[18:20] <crossmind> x:
[18:20] <ompaul> !enter | crossmind
[18:20] <Rprp> Does someone knows a proper musicplayer which can stream to Shoutcast?
[18:20] <ubotu> crossmind: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:20] <|_James_Bond_|> !portuguese
[18:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:20] <rgnr> what should i write in source list?
[18:20] <nicholas> How do I reinstall the lock file for apt-get?
[18:21] <|_James_Bond_|> !spanish
[18:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:21] <freebird> would someone please remind me the name of the tool that lets you fire out basic windows, like alert boxes, without having to program with gtk etc?
[18:21] <ompaul> nicholas, reboot and start again -
[18:21] <Pelo> Rprp, have you tried searching for shoutcast in synaptic ?
[18:21] <Pici> freebird: zenity
[18:21] <freebird> cheers!!!
[18:21] <nicholas> I just rebooted.
[18:21] <crossmind> look, to Stream you need a progam who can play MMS: I thing...
[18:21] <Rprp> Pelo: yes
[18:21] <|_James_Bond_|> !japanise
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japanise - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:21] <Pici> !msgthebot | |_James_Bond_|
[18:21] <ubotu> |_James_Bond_|: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:21] <|_James_Bond_|> !japan
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:21] <ompaul> nicholas, then it should not be needed a fresh sudo apt-get update might help
[18:21] <ompaul> !jp
[18:21] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[18:21] <crossmind> Ubotu ÇD
[18:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:21] <Pelo> Rprp, check out songbirg,  I think it does most of the stuff anyone can expect, it's not in the repos you have to look for the website
[18:21] <crossmind> xD
[18:21] <|_James_Bond_|> ok
[18:21] <akro> :P
[18:21] <x_zeuss> th0r: and what plugins do i need for vlc? for mozilla?
[18:22] <akro> :P
[18:22] <|_James_Bond_|> bye
[18:22] <Rprp> hmm, thnx
[18:22] <ompaul> !msgthebot | |_James_Bond_|
[18:22] <Zarxrax> Could someone help me? I'm running Ubuntu from the live cd on my laptop, and it boots to the desktop but then neither mouse or keyboard responds.
[18:22] <th0r> x_zeuss not sure...I think I just set up vlc as an external app to handle all that
[18:22] <x_zeuss> th0r: ok, i'll try that
[18:23] <Pelo> Zarxrax, how much memory do you hve on this comp ? and are the mouse and kb usb or are those the built in ones ?
[18:23] <x_zeuss> th0r: 10x
[18:23] <genii> Zarxrax: Before it begins booting, hit F6 key then add to the end of the line but before the ---    the option of usbhandoff
[18:23]  * Pelo thinks genii is trying to make him look bad 
[18:24]  * genii slides Pelo a coffee
[18:24] <Zarxrax> Pelo: 1gb ram, and its the laptops built in keyboard and touchpad
[18:24] <th0r> x_zeuss I have some notes on how to do that. If you want I can pastebin it for you.
[18:24] <Zarxrax> genii: ok ill try that
[18:25] <x_zeuss> th0r: sure
[18:25] <genii> Pelo: Didn't mean to cut in, apologies
[18:25] <x_zeuss> th0r:  10x
[18:25]  * Pelo makes a note to ban genii  if he ever gets op back 
[18:25] <genii> Pelo: Heh, my coffee isn't THAT bad ;)
[18:26] <crossmind> where to download and enable Beryl:
[18:26] <crossmind> ??
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[18:26] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:26] <th0r> x_zeuss ok...quick and dirty notes...but they usually help....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50296/
[18:26] <crossmind> ok
[18:26] <Buyydee> !compiz
[18:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:26] <profanephobia> when i do sudo apt-get update it hangs at 99% and says "[8 Packages gzip 0]" and just hangs there
[18:26] <Pelo> I think that the compiz-fusion ppl should have kept the beryl name
[18:26] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50297/plain/
[18:27] <Pelo> profanephobia, any 3rd party repos you adde3d that might be out of date ?
[18:27] <dots> !broadcom
[18:27] <Buyydee> or should have called it 'compiz-beryl' :)
[18:27] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[18:27] <crossmind> I try to mount my ntfs partition... HDA1, but dont works! I used this command "sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/hda1/"
[18:27] <profanephobia> Pelo, ill check thanks
[18:28] <Pelo> crossmind,  did you create the /media/hda1  mountpoint first ?
[18:28] <crossmind> and that error here appear :/ "sudo mount /dev/hda1/ /media/hda1/"
[18:28] <Zarxrax> genii: it looks like this is working
[18:28] <crossmind> hmm
[18:28] <crossmind> no
[18:28] <crossmind> mountpoint?
[18:28] <crossmind> Pelo, mountpoint?
[18:28] <nicholas> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50297/plain/
[18:29] <profanephobia> Pelo, you're brilliant! thanks
[18:29] <genii> Zarxrax: Good :) This option is needed on some Intel USB controllers to make them see the keyboards or mouse/pointing device sometimes
[18:29] <Pelo> crossmind, the location where you mount the partiton,    try sudo mkdir /media/hda1 and then try the mount command again , no / at the end
[18:29] <daquino[laptop]> crdlb: idk what happend but i cant seem to resize windows anymore... i put my mouse over the edge and i get the mouse icon change... but it doesn't resize
[18:29] <crossmind> ok I'll try
[18:29] <ompaul> nicholas, so now what happens when you do this, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:30] <crossmind> Pelo look "mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda1': File exists"
[18:30] <Pelo> crossmind, the full command you need might also be  sudo mount -f ntfs /dev/had1 /media/hda1   not sure if you absolutely need the option for the FS or if it will be detected
[18:30] <rgnr> how do i install sdl?
[18:30] <Pelo> crossmind, hmmm
[18:30] <jingjingradi4> hello
[18:30] <jingjingradi4> i'am fromthailand
[18:30] <Pelo> crossmind,and what do you find when you browse to /media/hda1 ?
[18:30] <rgnr> !hello
[18:30] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:30] <jingjingradi4> happy new year
[18:30] <Pelo> !tai | jingjingradi4
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tai - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:31] <x_zeuss> where is vlc installed?
[18:31] <Pelo> jingjingradi4, happy new year to you to
[18:31] <rgnr> !thai
[18:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thai - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:31] <jingjingradi4> i'am from ubuntu-th
[18:31] <crossmind> Dont show anything...
[18:31] <Pelo> crossmind, then try the last command I gave you
[18:31] <jingjingradi4> Pelo: happ new year to you
[18:31] <crossmind> ok
[18:31] <Pelo> crossmind, the full command you need might also be  sudo mount -f ntfs /dev/had1 /media/hda1   not sure if you absolutely need the option for the FS or if it will be detected
[18:31] <jingjingradi4> tim ein thailand is 01.31
[18:32] <jingjingradi4> *time
[18:32] <morgan555> I need help urgently
[18:32] <nicholas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50298/plain/
[18:32] <jingjingradi4> *time in thailand is 01.31
[18:32] <nicholas> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50298/plain/
[18:32] <Pelo> jingjingradi4, this is a support chanel, thanks for the newyears greating but it's a bit off topic
[18:32] <th0r> Pelo shouldn't that be -t ntfs?
[18:32] <jingjingradi4> happy new year to you
[18:32] <Pelo> th0r, probably ,I don'T use that option very often,  double checking it right now
[18:32] <x_zeuss> where does vlc install?
[18:32] <jingjingradi4> oh!  sorry
[18:33] <Pelo> crossmind, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/had1 /media/hda1
[18:33] <morgan555> I installed a second hard drive into my sisters computer for Ubuntu, viewing her windows drive titled HP_Pavillion I was able to find all documents in My Documents, now they are just gone and I literally have no I dea what happened to them
[18:33] <crossmind> Pelo dont works :/
[18:33] <Pelo> crossmind, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/had1 /media/hda1
[18:33] <jingjingradi4> i not know is support channel ans sorry bye
[18:33] <Pelo> I made a small mistake, thank th0r  for correcting me
[18:33] <crossmind> Still Empty...
[18:33] <Pelo> crossmind, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/had1 /media/hda1
[18:33] <Buyydee> morgan555: fdisk -l -> pastebin
[18:33] <th0r> Pelo was hoping you would catch the typo also <smile>
[18:34] <morgan555> Buyydee; sorry please be more specific
[18:34] <crossmind> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[18:34] <crossmind> The device '/dev/hda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[18:34] <crossmind> this appear ;/
[18:34] <Pelo> x_zeuss, most exectuable are to be found in /bin /sbin /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[18:34] <th0r> x_zeuss vlc, like most things in linux, is installed in parts in different locations. Are you looking for the executable command?
[18:34] <crossmind> but I use this partition in mine Windows XP
[18:34] <Buyydee> morgan555: go to the terminal, type 'sudo fdisk -l' an put the response to pastebin
[18:34] <Buyydee> !pastebin
[18:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:34] <Pelo> crossmind, are yiou sure that /dev/hda1 is the correct  devtree for your ntfs partition ?
[18:35] <crossmind> yea
[18:35] <ompaul> nicholas, I have no idea what the problem is there, I know what I would do in that case, it may not be safe but it is better than where you are at this time, I would remove that /0067 file
[18:35] <crossmind> I got 2 ntfs
[18:35] <crossmind> HDA5 and HDA1
[18:35] <x_zeuss> yes
[18:35] <crdlb> daquino[laptop]: with compiz?
[18:35] <x_zeuss> th0r: yes
[18:35] <x_zeuss> th0r: the exe
[18:35] <Pelo> crossmind, type blkid in the terminal and show me the output in a pastebin
[18:35] <ompaul> nicholas, then I would sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade again
[18:35] <dwxreaper> anyone know why when I did automatic updates my myphpadmin stopped working
[18:35] <th0r> x_zeuss to find the full path of the executable just type 'which vlc' in a terminal
[18:35] <crossmind> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[18:35] <crossmind> The device '/dev/hda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[18:35] <crossmind> ops
[18:35] <crossmind> /dev/hda3: LABEL="Linux" UUID="591e58ed-67a4-4979-b238-97325c9b5afa" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[18:35] <crossmind> /dev/hda4: TYPE="swap" UUID="424479a7-f195-4585-9cb3-46c212d415e8"
[18:35] <th0r> x_zeuss not exe....how windowish ! <smile>
[18:35] <nicholas> ompaul: Ok, i'll try that now.
[18:35] <Pelo> dwxreaper, did you instal it from the repos ?
[18:36] <Pelo> crossmind, open up gparted and see what is going on
[18:36] <ompaul> crossmind, you are not to paste any more than two lines into this channel - use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[18:36] <Pelo> ompaul, it use to be 4 lines
[18:37] <Buyydee> morgan555: sry, i just got called and have to leave now, celebrate new year :) would someone else please have a look at this problem?
[18:37] <ompaul> Pelo, 2 in here for reasons of volume
[18:37] <RoxanneEDM> hey guys, with that DVDShrink, should i just leave it on Automatic?
[18:37] <crossmind> sorry
[18:37] <nicholas> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50299/plain/
[18:37] <ompaul> crossmind, now you know ;-)
[18:37] <Pelo> crossmind,  can you still boot into windows ?
[18:37] <th0r> RoxanneEDM I do....I just use all the defaults and it has worked fine
[18:37] <crossmind> yes
[18:37] <crossmind> I can
[18:37] <RoxanneEDM> ok thanks th0r
[18:37] <ompaul> nicholas, do sudo dpkg --configure -a     now
[18:38] <Pelo> crossmind, boot back windows xp , run a defrag and a scandisck,  see if the solves the problem
[18:38] <morgan555> I appreciate it Buyydee
[18:38] <x_zeuss> th0r: i followed thoese steps but nothing, can't get vlc to play win media player streamings
[18:38] <Buyydee> morgan555: don't mention it. i mean it :) haven
[18:38] <Buyydee> morgan555: 't done anything so far
[18:39] <crush_groove>  I I was at a dead space in the terminal .. no bash  and ctrl c or x didnt work. so I was just playing and trying things and did "ctrl alt" enter . and it replyed "quit"(core dumped) what did I do ?
[18:39] <morgan555> Here is a pastebin of sudo fdisk -l      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50301/
[18:39] <RoxanneEDM> hey th0r, does shrink no burn the disc too ?
[18:39] <th0r> x_zeuss you need to install the nonfree codecs...there is a factoid for that...wish I could remember it...hope someone iwll trigger it for me
[18:39] <nicholas> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50302/plain/
[18:39] <endo> I want to install libxine1-ffmpeg_1.1.4-2ubuntu3_i386.deb but I get an error that says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxine1"
[18:39] <endo> can someone help me out please?
[18:39] <crossmind> look, in GPARTED show me 4 partitions 1 19gb NTFS (windows) 1 29gb (Files) 1 7,45gb (Linux) 1 1gb (swamp)...
[18:39] <x_zeuss> i installed the w32codecs
[18:39] <th0r> RoxanneEDM no, it creates a structure on the hard drive that can be burned to disk...but initially it stores on the hard drive
[18:39] <Pelo> crush_groove, apparently you dumped the core and quited
[18:40] <tribaldata> endo: did you try -f option ?
[18:40] <RoxanneEDM> ok
[18:40] <endo> tribaldata: don't really know what you mean by that, what would the full command be?
[18:40] <ompaul> nicholas, I have no idea what you managed to do to get into this position, I have to dine now - back in a few minutes
[18:40] <Pelo> crossmind,  and what is the dev or the ntfs partiton you are shown ?
[18:40] <x_zeuss> th0r: when i go on that site i get a message in mozilla that additional plugins are needed, i click install missing plugins and then at the plugin finder i get Unknown Plugin ( application/x-ms-wmp)
[18:41] <crush_groove> Pelo .  I get that . I wasnt specific enough in what I wanted to know maybe . What does "core dump" mean . it doesnt sound good
[18:41] <crossmind> hda1 and hda5
[18:41] <epifanio_> hi
[18:41] <crossmind> /dev/hda1/5
[18:41] <morgan555> I installed a second hard drive into my sisters computer for Ubuntu, viewing her windows drive titled HP_Pavillion I was able to find all documents in My Documents and played a couple videos, now they are just gone and I literally have no I dea what happened to them
[18:41] <Pelo> crush_groove, core dump usualy mean that stuff in memory relateing to prog in use got flushed
[18:41] <ompaul> nicholas, please google for  dpkg: parse error    there seem to be a lot of hits for that - it may give some clues will be back shortly
[18:41] <Pelo> crossmind, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[18:42] <th0r> x_zeuss http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=40919
[18:42] <ompaul> !pm
[18:42] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[18:42] <crush_groove>   Pelo  so no worrys ?
[18:42] <crossmind> I was sending a Screen Shot
[18:42] <Pelo> crossmind, I recommend you do a scan disc from windows ?  seriously
[18:42] <crossmind> because I dont know much about UBUNTU
[18:42] <crossmind> scan disc:
[18:42] <Pelo> crush_groove, probabaly not
[18:42] <crossmind> hmm
[18:42] <crossmind> ok I'll try
[18:42] <crossmind> Thanks!
[18:42] <th0r> !nonfree
[18:42] <ubotu> When we use the term 'non-free', we mean that it is not Open Source. Software that is not open source cannot be fixed or improved by anyone except the software authors -- which is not us :(
[18:42] <crush_groove>  t pelo thank you
[18:42] <epifanio_> i've succesfool installed ubuntu on my new desktop,  how can i check if it had recognized the all the hardware (like video card) ?
[18:42] <nicholas> ompaul: Ok, tell me when you return.
[18:43] <th0r> Pelo do you know the trigger for the factoid for nonfree codecs
[18:43] <nicholas> ompaul: Thank you for trying to help me. :)
[18:43] <Pelo> crossmind, go in windows,   go in the my computer  right lcick on your c  driver,  go to properties tools,   check disck for defects or something
[18:43] <Pelo> !codecs | th0r
[18:43] <ubotu> th0r: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:43] <epifanio_> i.e. i need to check if it use the right driver for the video card
[18:43] <Sismic> bye et bonne f^^ete à tous
[18:43] <tribaldata> endo: you downloaded the deb file and trying to install it correct ?
[18:43] <th0r> RoxanneEDM did you catch that about the nonfree codecs?
[18:43] <Pelo> th0r,  you can also use  restricted and mp3 as trigger words
[18:44] <endo> tribaldata: yeah bro
[18:44] <tribaldata> endo: check your private
[18:44] <th0r> Pelo thx....couldn't remember how to get to it for her
[18:44] <Raspberry> I have a bunch of packages that have files that overwrite files in other packages -- it's a transition period for KDE4 ... so I don't mind them overwriting the other packages -- is there a way I can apt-get --force the overwrite instead of having to be in the archive directory dpkg --force-all -i every one of these packages?
[18:44] <crush_groove> !paste
[18:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:44] <Pelo> Raspberry, you'll need to ask in #kde  or in #kubuntu
[18:45] <th0r>  x_zeuss oops...did YOU catch the factoid about the codecs?
[18:45] <Raspberry> Pelo -- it's a general question about apt-get / dpkg
[18:45] <Anderson> th0r, back again
[18:45] <Raspberry> it has nothing to do with KDE4 directly
[18:45] <x_zeuss> th0r: no, what factoid?
[18:45] <Raspberry> I just know if I don't explain what packages I'm overwriting somebody is going to ask "why are you doing that"
[18:45] <Didius> Hi everyone
[18:45] <Pelo> Raspberry, but having had to do it , they would probably have a better idea of how to go about it
[18:45] <maek> where is the gutsy equivalent to /etc/inittab? thanks.
[18:46] <th0r> !codecs > x_zeuss
[18:46] <Pelo> maek, /etc/init.d I beleive
[18:46] <tribaldata> endo: the error you got is because your missing a package before you could install the other one
[18:46] <Hammer89> I can't mount my CD-RW drive in Ubuntu... anyone have any idea what I should do?
[18:46] <k3ito> hi guys can someone please tell me how to save all my styling in gnome ie taskbar looks and the like as I'm about to install a fresh gutsy.
[18:47] <tribaldata> !paste
[18:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:47]  * Pelo is using #ubuntu as an excuse to avoid shoveling snow , just so you all know you are being used 
[18:47] <Didius> little question, is it possible to add a button to the gnomepanel, that disables the screen when clicked. (but that keepsl the processes  running)
[18:47] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  how are you trying to mount it. and what else have you tried? You are not trying to mount an audio cd are you?
[18:47] <x_zeuss> another thing: i do sudo nautilus and i get this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan  1 06:46:49 2008
[18:47] <Pelo> k3ito, if you back up your /home folder all your settings will be restored
[18:47] <tribaldata> Pelo: you do that too ;)
[18:47] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: I tried opening it from the desktop... it's an audio CD
[18:47] <th0r> Didius  that is what the screensaver does
[18:47] <family> Is there any way to schedule automatic trash emptying?
[18:48] <Pelo> k3ito, I highly recommend you actualy put /home on a seperate partition, that way you can reisntalle at leasure
[18:48] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  you dont normally Mount Audio cds to play them.
[18:48] <Pelo> tribaldata, where are you ?
[18:48] <tribaldata> Pelo: Montreal
[18:48] <bqmassey> what options are there for widgets (like Konfabulator) on Ubuntu
[18:48] <nicholas> ompaul: This is what I found in the 0067 file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50304/plain/
[18:48] <Pelo> tribaldata, drummondville here
[18:48] <k3ito> pelo: is that all. don't i need to backup anything in usr or other.  still not quite got my head round all the various folders! ;)
[18:48] <Didius> thor: a screensave doesn't disables the screen, my lcd is still sending out light....
[18:48] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: true...
[18:49] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: I tried running it from Amarok, though... and it couldn't access the DC
[18:49] <Hammer89> *cd
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  with that said.. I have seen special things in kde. (and gnome?) that make an audio cd appear as a list of mp3/ogg/wav files.
[18:49] <Pelo> k3ito, your /home folder contains all your prog settings as well as your data,  but not the progs themselved,  those you will have to reinstall
[18:49] <fodi> hi
[18:49] <tribaldata> endo: still there ?
[18:49] <k3ito> Pelo: ty
[18:49] <endo> tribaldata: yeah man, im going to try and install it through synap
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  could be its trying to access the wrong device. I normall y just rip cds to mp3's and be done with it.
[18:49] <tribaldata> endo: what are you trying to install in the first place ?
[18:50] <endo> libxine-1-ffmpeg
[18:50] <endo> so I can get my amarok to play mp3 files
[18:50] <fodi> please help my wifi card realtek 8180 (vendor bluetake) often frozen when transmission speed is around 200K
[18:50] <bqmassey> are there any alarms for Ubuntu?
[18:50] <fodi> i use ndiswrappes as native driver not working
[18:50] <tyoc> How do I do for export LIB path? for example to point to ~/opt/lib ???
[18:50] <dwxreaper> I did automatic updates and it broke myphpadmin. I see this in the apache2 log
[18:50] <dwxreaper> Option FollowSymLinks Not allowed here
[18:50] <Dr_willis> bqmassey,  Huh?
[18:51] <jamescarr> hey
[18:51] <dwxreaper> would that cause a server 500 error to be displayed for phpmyadmin?
[18:51] <jamescarr> I seem to be having random problems with gnome applications
[18:51] <tribaldata> endo: did you try apt-get install ffmpeg
[18:51] <Anderson> th0r, back again
[18:51] <bqmassey> Dr_willis:  alarm clocks
[18:51] <crush_groove> scd<> in fstap notates scsi drive?
[18:51] <jamescarr> I get this error when I run it from the console: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[18:51] <jamescarr> Could not open network socket.
[18:51] <endo> nope, I fixed the problem
[18:51] <Pelo> bqmassey, more of less,  search in synaptic for alarm you will get stuff for kde but it can also work in gnome,  and you can use the calandar in the top bar as well , just set a meating
[18:51] <jamescarr> any gnome app.. they dont start up
[18:51] <endo> just installed it though synap and it worked
[18:51] <tribaldata> endo: excellent :)
[18:51] <Dr_willis> bqmassey,  use the search feature of the package manager.  theres a few in there. I know theres a kde one.  Not sure bout gnome.
[18:52] <th0r> Anderson munchkins well fed and happy?
[18:52] <Anderson> th0r, haha, no... my dad and brother.
[18:52] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: nothing seems to be able to read the drive... I tried amarok, rhythmbox, and sound juicer
[18:52] <LabThug> Anyone in here use mdadm?
[18:52] <Anderson> th0r, no munchkins... not even a gf...
[18:52] <LabThug> or know a room that does?
[18:52] <piiT> is openwrt down for anyone else?
[18:53] <Anderson> th0r, last one bailed on me when I left for the Marine Corps
[18:53] <Pelo> Hammer89, you just want to play mp3 files ?   check in synaptic , search for gstreamer0.10 and install everyting that has that word in the name
[18:53] <Hammer89> Pelo: it
[18:53] <Pelo> it ?
[18:53] <th0r> Anderson well...munchkins come in all shapes and sizes <smile>
[18:53] <Hammer89> Pelo: it's not so much that I'm trying to play mp3s.... I just can't access the CD-RW drive at all
[18:54] <Pelo> Hammer89, ah
[18:54] <Anderson> th0r, true, my dad is probably the most munchkin
[18:54] <Hammer89> Pelo: sorry about that... hit enter by accident :)
[18:54] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  could be it trying to read the wrong /dev/whatever name. My cd is /dev/hdc and thers a link from /dev/cdrom to it.  ls -l /dev/cdrom is pointing to hdc, in my case.  Could be yours are wrong.
[18:54] <Pelo> Hammer89, does the drive work with data cd ?
[18:54] <fodi> any ide why my WIFI CARD FROZEN around speed 200K?
[18:54] <th0r> Anderson I hope you saved those urls I sent you earlier...I didn't bookmark them and that last one seemed to have some good information
[18:54] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: how should I go about checking? (I'm pretty new to this all)
[18:54] <Pelo> fodi, difficult to diagnose stuff like that ,  did you check the forum for more info ? www.ubuntuforums.org
[18:55] <Anderson> th0r, yeah I have it open.
[18:55] <Anderson> gonna try this imps/2 driver real quick
[18:55] <tribaldata> Hammer89: does your device is listed correctly in your media ?
[18:55] <Dr_willis> Hammer89, -------->  ls -l /dev/cdrom
[18:55] <Hammer89> Pelo: I haven't tried... but I wasn't able to even mount the drive from my desktop... so I doubt it
[18:55] <fodi> Pelo, not yet i will check
[18:55] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  could also seeif a data disk is seen properly
[18:55] <fodi> thx
[18:55] <Pelo> Hammer89, usb external cd-rw ?
[18:56] <Hammer89> Pelo: internal
[18:56] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: I ran that... and it came back with scd0
[18:56] <dwxreaper> the automatic update replaced the .htaccess file for the phpmyadmin site, shouldn't do that it breaks things
[18:56] <rodolfo> nickrud: very busy?
[18:56] <Anderson> th0r, Here goes. be back in a minute... hopefully
[18:56] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  well that seems right.
[18:56] <methods> i cant resize my windows !!!
[18:56] <Pelo> Hammer89,  do you have more then one such drive on your comp cause I have had some issues since gutsy getting my second dvd-rw to work but then it is pretty old and giving me all sorts of trouble anyway so I kind of figured it was dead
[18:57] <Pelo> methods, do you mean your window partition ?
[18:57] <Hammer89> Pelo: I have two drives in bays... but I think only one is connected... I'll check
[18:58] <methods> Pelo:  i mean my windows.....
[18:58]  * Pelo thinks he might just go out and buy himself a new dvd-rw this afternoon,  it's been several mounts and he can afford it now
[18:58] <Anderson> th0r no change, going to try uncommenting the info you gave me from your xorg.conf
[18:58] <Pelo> methods, any specific one or all of them ?
[18:59] <ompaul> nicholas, do this sudo cat /dev/null > ThatFile and do it again
[18:59] <Pelo> methods, I occaionnaly have this happen to me in a ff window,   maximising it and then restoring it does the trick
[18:59] <ader10> Why does conky give me 15 percent usage and how can I fix it
[19:00] <ynef> ader10: check what "top" reports as active
[19:00] <ompaul> ader10, better to ask that in #kubuntu
[19:00] <ynef> ader10: in a terminal
[19:00] <ader10> ompaul: kubuntu??
[19:00] <Anderson> th0r, still no change... If this is driver related I suspect it has to do with Fujitsu drivers
[19:00] <rodolfo> has anyone noticed something about the official fix for the flash plugin bug?
[19:00] <ader10> ompaul: You do know what conky is right
[19:00] <ompaul> ader10, I am loosing it  ;-)
[19:00] <Dr_willis> !info conky
[19:00] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[19:01] <Pelo> ader10, the system information disply applet that loads as a watermark on your desktop
[19:01] <ader10> Pelo: I know what it does....
[19:01] <Dr_willis> watermark. :) thats a descriptice way of describing it i guess..
[19:01] <conal> what do people like for multi-monitor support?
[19:01] <Dr_willis> conky is handy.
[19:01] <ynef> ader10: so did you check "top"?
[19:01] <Hammer89> Dr_willis: I got in... sudo mount sdc0... I can read it now :)
[19:01] <Dr_willis> conal,  Huh? I like Lots of them and big!
[19:01] <jamescarr> the desktop is also
[19:01] <ader10> ynef: Yeah, pidgin is at the top for some reason now, but earlier conky was
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Hammer89,  odd that its not mounting properly
[19:02] <conal> xinerama?  something else?
[19:02] <Pelo> Dr_willis, I've seen it used a few times in gnome-look I beleive,  I like the idea,  filigram woud probagly work to
[19:02] <Dr_willis> conal,  nvidia uses Twinview. ati uses somthing else.
[19:02] <Anderson> th0r I am going to try an fpit driver... fujitsu related
[19:02] <ompaul> ader10, you know what I was thinking of ... kde Konky  their dragon mascot
[19:02] <ynef> ader10: got any new weird configuration?
[19:02] <ader10> That's his name?
[19:02] <ynef> ader10: yeah, that's his name... hence, konqueror etc ;-)
[19:03] <jamescarr> nautlis will not start!
[19:03] <ompaul> ader10, Konky
[19:03] <ader10> ynef: Not particularly new but it's kinda wierd.
[19:03] <jamescarr> (nautilus:2256): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[19:03] <jamescarr> Could not open network socket.
[19:03] <jamescarr> why?
[19:03] <Pelo> does gnome have a mascot ?
[19:03] <jamescarr> what socket does it need?
[19:03] <Ttech> !offtopic
[19:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:03] <ynef> ader10: try selectively remove stuff from it
[19:03] <ader10> ompaul: and didn't Konky have a girlfriend or something
[19:03] <ader10> ynef: I've pretty much removed all that I can without defeating the purpose of conky
[19:03] <ynef> Pelo: well, Gnome has that foot thing ;-)
[19:03] <Pelo> jamescarr, I suggest you do a search in the forum for the error msg   www.ubuntuforums.org
[19:03] <conal> i think i have an ati.  so maybe MergedFB
[19:04] <Pelo> ynef,  ah yes,  gfooty
[19:04] <Pelo> ;-)
[19:04] <Hammer89> strange... amarok is reading it... but Sound Juicer isn't
[19:04] <LabThug> Anyone use mdadm for RAID5 in here?
[19:04] <ynef> ader10: nah, it's still taking up resources so I think you've got the main purpose covered ;-)
[19:04] <ynef> ader10: but seriously, what's left?
[19:04] <Pelo> Hammer89,  sound juicer might require lame or mpeg123 to extract the mp3 files
[19:04] <ompaul> nicholas, so did that sudo cat /dev/null > 0067  and then sudo apt-get update do anything for you?
[19:05] <Pelo> LabThug, try asking in ##linux
[19:05] <Hammer89> Pelo: hmmm... I'm playing mp3's right now...
[19:05] <LabThug> Pelo: thanks!
[19:05] <jlulian38> Does anyone know why this line in a pretty standard NFS set-up would make it go completely wonky?
[19:05] <jlulian38> /home/jlulian38/store/ 192.168.0.1/4(rw,sync)
[19:05] <Pelo> Hammer89, different app may use different libs to do the same job
[19:06] <Hammer89> Pelo: ah... okay
[19:06] <jlulian38> exportfs: invalid netmask `etc/exports:' for  and then it fails loading
[19:06] <th0r> jlulian38 shouldn't that ip be /24?
[19:06] <Dr_willis> conky here is using about 1% or less of the cpu for me..
[19:06] <jlulian38> oh maybe :/
[19:06] <ader10> ynef: I got some dev in #conky so you're off the hook :)
[19:06] <jlulian38> still fails :(
[19:07] <jlulian38> When I try and mount it I get "mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.0.4' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered"
[19:07] <ynef> ader10: ah, nice ;-)
[19:07] <ader10> *borat voice* Verry naice!
[19:07] <ynef> hehe
[19:07] <comicinker> could somebody please send or post his smb.conf from /etc/samba? mine is wrecked.
[19:07] <Pelo> jlulian38, what command line are you using ?
[19:07] <jlulian38> For mounting?
[19:08] <Anderson> th0r, no progress
[19:08] <Pelo> jlulian38, yes ...
[19:08] <Anderson> th0r, correction, progress has shown me what doesn't work
[19:08] <jlulian38> "sudo mount 192.168.0.4:/home/jlulian38/store /home/jlulian38/store" This is just a test right now :P
[19:09] <th0r> Anderson I almost abandoned linux here about four months ago after years of use. Couldn't find a distro that supported the sound card on my new laptop. Sometimes you just have to wait for things to catch up. The problem is the drivers....the manufacturers don't want to tell anyone how the <touchpad> works
[19:09] <Pelo> juliank, don't you need your access password in there somewhere, not for sudo but for accessing the network drive ?
[19:10] <jlulian38> No :/
[19:10] <th0r> Anderson the good news is if you are persistent enough you can usually figure out how to get it all working....but sometimes it isn't easy <smile>
[19:10] <Anderson> th0r, it happens, I've been struggling with this for about.... a year and some change
[19:10] <Ttech> Hi, has anyone been able to get PHPedit to work on Ubuntu -> Wine?
[19:10] <Pelo> jlulian38, maybe the ppl in #networking might be able to help
[19:10] <jlulian38> the way I have NFS set-up it doesn't have authentication :/
[19:10] <jlulian38> blargh
[19:10] <jlulian38> fine
[19:10] <unimatrix9> hi there
[19:11] <Pelo> jlulian38, maybe adding a -t nfs option in there
[19:11] <ompaul> !nfs | jlulian38
[19:11] <ubotu> jlulian38: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[19:11] <Anderson> th0r, there is one guy who has a precompiled version of linux wfor the cf-18 that is fully functional, including the tablet feature. But I want to learn how to fix it, not buy a solution
[19:11] <unimatrix9> some of you are already in the new year?
[19:11] <th0r> jlulian38 just an idea...nfs was driving me nuts til I found fusesmb...you might want to check it out.
[19:11] <jlulian38> This is the thing though, I had it working fine like 8 hours ago
[19:11] <Pelo> unimatrix9, not all of us,  I don't hold with this new stuff, I'm sticking iwththe old for as long as I can
[19:11] <jlulian38> I just accidentally destroyed my partitions
[19:11] <unimatrix9> hehe i see
[19:12] <jlulian38> so I have to set it up again
[19:12] <th0r> Anderson have you contacted him...he might be willing to steer you in the right direction
[19:12] <unimatrix9> any one here play savage in their ubuntu system?
[19:12] <Anderson> th0r, nah, didn't tink to, just figured hed be hardline all business
[19:12] <Anderson> th0r, I'll see if I can track him down
[19:13] <th0r> Anderson that hasn't been my experience with the FOSS community...but you never know.
[19:13] <th0r> Anderson  I have been very impressed with the people I have emailed and the responses I have received.
[19:13] <Anderson> th0r, hopefully I can track him down again
[19:14] <piero> Is there any solution to improve Ubuntu 7.10 performance to and old computer? (cpu amd athlon thunderbird 1200mhz, 256MB 100mhz RAM) ? Any verbose or documented help are welcome! Thanks!
[19:14] <skaka> ls
[19:14] <unimatrix9> peiro the best thing would be to add more ram
[19:14] <erUSUL> piero: buy RAM the cpu power is ok
[19:14] <scguy318> piero: run a lighter desktop
[19:15] <Pelo> piero, the usual stuff,  remove all the services you donT' need is the usual way to go
[19:15] <skaka> hi
[19:15] <MF_Debian> piero, or run a lighter desktop, perhaps xubuntu
[19:15] <Pelo> !hi | skaka
[19:15] <ubotu> skaka: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:15] <epifanio_> to install the nvidea driver, i need to stop the x server, can you suggest me the needed command line ?
[19:15] <unimatrix9> peiro : the pc is good enough
[19:15] <Pelo> epifanio_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:15] <scguy318> epifanio_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:15] <unimatrix9> just the ram is low
[19:16] <epifanio_> ok thanks :-9
[19:16] <unimatrix9> peiro : is ram not cheap in brazil too?
[19:16] <alfermp> hey guys happy new year for everyone, and this is the new year for Ubuntu yujuuuuuu
[19:16] <wols_> unimatrix9: not SDRAM
[19:16] <Anderson> th0r, in my searches just now I found a site that apparently has the solution to the touchpad problem
[19:16] <piero> unimatrix9, It is very hard to find a sdram 133mhz ram here...
[19:16] <th0r> Anderson url?
[19:16] <piero> all I can found is ddr or ddr2 cards on the market
[19:16] <rexy> piero: did you try xubuntu?
[19:17] <Anderson> th0r, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-handheld-25/panasonic-toughbook-cf-29-touch-screen-485053/page7.html
[19:17] <unimatrix9> peiro : its to bad you dont live here , i would give it for free
[19:17] <piero> rexy, not yet..
[19:17] <^root^> Where are the logs from Pidgin stored if i enable logging?
[19:17] <init6> When I run "apt-get install apache2" it wants an install CD.  Why can't I install apache from a network repository?
[19:17] <piero> Is there a way to apply changes without reinstalling the system?
[19:17] <striphe> noob question: I just installed Ubuntu, and I don't have a wired internet connection. how can I install packages offline?
[19:17] <Pelo> init6, open menu > sytem > admin > software sources and uncheck the install cd from the bottomof the fist tab
[19:17] <hello_> Hello. I'm having a bit of a problem: I can't open anything by double clicking on it. Everything turns into a piece of paper when I try. I can't access any folders, either, it just tells me it can't display the contents. It has been doing this a lot lately. How do I troubleshoot what is going on?
[19:17] <rexy> piero: the normal ubuntu environment is a bit tough on 256mb, it'll work just fine but it will start to swap pretty quick, you can use a bare windowmanager or switch to xubuntu
[19:17] <MF_Debian> init6, you need to edit your apt sources list
[19:17] <Myrtti> init6: it can, if you disable the cd
[19:18] <Myrtti> init6: system - admin - softwaree sources
[19:18] <Pelo> hello_,  open a terminal  , sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:18] <Myrtti> init6: tick the cd off
[19:18] <piero> rexy, I did not found the classic simple gnome theme, thats I think should use less memory than those that are present in Ubuntu..
[19:18] <th0r> Anderson wish I could take credit for that <smile>
[19:19] <unimatrix9> piero install xfce desktop or some thing light , dont know if xubuntu comes in an package
[19:19] <Karyom> @piero have you tried ebay?
[19:19] <piero> Which window manager you recomend to me?
[19:19] <scguy318> piero: xubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <Anderson> th0r, i'll experiment with this and see how it works, gotta find a dl for that patch
[19:19] <unimatrix9> then it must be apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:19] <piero> scguy318, great!
[19:19] <striphe> noob question: I just installed Ubuntu, and I don't have a wired internet connection. how can I install packages offline?
[19:19] <th0r> Anderson good luck
[19:19] <Pelo> piero, not realy,  theme use pretty much the same amount of memorey, unless you are uisng  compiz and such
[19:19] <rexy> piero: it uses a lot of auxilary stuff that takes memory too
[19:19] <Karyom> there Sdram is pretty cheap under 10 bugs
[19:19] <scguy318> piero: that's not a window manager but its hte metapackage for a Xubuntu desktop
[19:19] <scguy318> piero: people like Enlightenment, Blackbox, etc.
[19:19] <MartinW> Striphe, you can use a cd as a repo or you can double click on a .deb file.
[19:19] <Pelo> striphe,  you have a wifi ? all the stuff you need to isntal it should be available on the cd
[19:20] <piero> cool! Started downloading xubuntu desktop!!!
[19:20] <cabrioleur> striphe: dpkg -i name
[19:20] <th0r> piero:you can install xfce without reinstalling all of ubuntu or losing gnome. Just install the xfce4 packages, and thunar for the filemanager.
[19:20] <piero> Thank you very much!!
[19:20] <MartinW> !aptonacd struphe
[19:20] <WorkingOnWise> when I boot my laptop, when I should se the pretty ubuntu spash screen and progress bar, instead I see a screen full of psychodelic fine white and black lines. The next intelegent graphic I see is the Nvidia logo, then GDM starts. This has done this from the first install of 7.10 32 bit. If I boot, or install, 7.10 AMD64, uspalsh works fine, even the live cd. What do I do to get my prety usplash working right? The video is N
[19:20] <piero> cool! :D
[19:20] <MartinW> !aptonacd
[19:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptonacd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:20] <rexy> well dont thank us yet, it's not as pretty as gnome is :P
[19:20] <unimatrix9> peiro : is this cheap ? http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-62154046-memoria-dimm-sdram-512-mb-pc-133-frete-gratis-so-paulo-_JM
[19:20] <unimatrix9> hmm he is on an away mission
[19:21] <jlulian38> I found my problem
[19:21] <jlulian38> rofl
[19:21] <striphe> when i double click the deb file it just brings up 2.0
[19:21] <Pelo> back later
[19:21] <jlulian38> There were some extra characters before the first '#' in my /etc/exports file
[19:21] <MartinW> Where can I get a program that runs in the background and tells me when I've got e-mail.
[19:21] <MartinW> ?
[19:21] <tribaldata> WorkingOnWise: friend of mine had something similar once he re-installed the driver for the nvidia everything was back to normal
[19:21] <Enjoitehlife> is there a way I can go to ubuntu straight from mandriva without burning iso's to a cd?
[19:21] <scguy318> Enjoitehlife: yes, see !install
[19:21] <unimatrix9> !aptoncd
[19:21] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[19:21] <damasceno> Alguem que fale portugues aqui?
[19:21] <scguy318> !br | damasceno
[19:21] <ubotu> damasceno: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:22] <tribaldata> WorkingOnWise: if not wait maybe someone else experience this before
[19:22] <WorkingOnWise> tribaldata: I have had this problem before I installed the nvidia driver.
[19:22] <x-X-x> how do i extract atar.gz i have on desktop to usr/local/games ???
[19:22] <striphe> ubotu, the issue is, I am dl the pckages onto a windows machine
[19:22] <Enjoitehlife> scguy318: in root?
[19:22] <scguy318> !install | Enjoitehlife
[19:22] <ubotu> Enjoitehlife: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:22] <damasceno> Alguem que fale portugues aqui? Os canais br ninguem ajuda... :/
[19:22] <genii> x-X-x:
[19:22] <tribaldata> WorkingOnWise: everything works fine except for that spalsh screen ?
[19:22] <ompaul> !pt | damasceno
[19:22] <ubotu> damasceno: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:22] <Karyom> hablar espanol un poco
[19:22] <WorkingOnWise> tribaldata: yup
[19:23] <alfermp> damasceno usa #ubuntu-br
[19:23] <WorkingOnWise> tribaldata: even compiz
[19:23] <ompaul> !es | Karyom
[19:23] <ubotu> Karyom: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:23] <genii> x-X-x:  (sudo) tar -xvf tarname.tar -C /usr/local/games
[19:23] <cabrioleur> tribaldata: change the resolution for fb.
[19:23] <WorkingOnWise> !automate
[19:23] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[19:23] <Ttech> Hi, for some reason my multiverse and universe auntication keys are gone, how do I restore them?
[19:24] <x-X-x> genii thnx !!
[19:24] <Karyom> en los canales #ubuntu -es por que?
[19:24] <WorkingOnWise> cabrioleur: how do u change the fb resolution?
[19:24] <genii> x-X-x:  np
[19:24] <rexy> Karyom: cuz we cant speak spanish ;)
[19:24] <scguy318> Karyom: porque este canal solamente es por ingles, that's why
[19:24] <tribaldata> rexy: portuguse ;)
[19:25] <tribaldata> with the right spelling :P
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[19:25] <init6> Thanks Myrtti, MF_Debian, Pelo.  I was called away.  Someone cut themselves.  Anyway What do I need to do without a GUI?
[19:25] <Anderson> th0r, now I need to figure out how to compile kernels and modules apparently... k
[19:26] <rexy> !compile_mah_kernel
[19:26] <tribaldata> !kernel
[19:26] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[19:26] <rexy> see, so close :P
[19:26] <tribaldata> lol
[19:26] <rexy> havent done it in ages, not since make bzImage went out of phase anyway
[19:26] <x-X-x> genii now how do i give permission to access this file?
[19:27] <Karyom> soy hablas un poco espanol...
[19:27] <Abyssal> got a question concerning the options of my screen refresh rate: i got 2 options here. 60 or 75 Mhz. can i damage something if i make a wrong decision or are the choices harmless?
[19:27] <rexy> Abyssal: it shouldnt, but it's possbile
[19:27] <WorkingOnWise> Abyssal: how old a monitor is it?
[19:27] <wols_> Abyssal: do you have a LCD or a CRT?
[19:27] <Karyom> and my spanish is deffenetly a little bit rusty...
[19:28] <init6> Oh, I got it.
[19:28] <tribaldata> Abyssal: If you know the brand name and model of your coard just go check which mode are supoported
[19:28] <Karyom> poser ton question...(francais?!)
[19:28] <tribaldata> Karyom: a qui tu parle ?
[19:28] <rexy> think in general tribaldata
[19:28] <unimatrix9> Abyssal , it can destroy your monitor
[19:29] <Karyom> a scguy qui parles seulement espanol...
[19:29] <scguy318> Karyom: mm?
[19:29] <Abyssal> tribaldata: it is a flatscreen monitor. LG Flatron L1811S is the modell.
[19:29] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : whats the brand, google for its specs, or look at the back of the monitor, there should be some hints as to what it can do
[19:29] <rexy> so CRT then
[19:29] <genii> x-X-x: sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/games/<dirnamehere>
[19:29] <Karyom> mais mon espanol est mouvais
[19:30] <Abyssal> rexy: do not know what is LCD and CRT.
[19:30] <Karyom> (my french too)
[19:30] <Abyssal> WorkingOnWise: it is about 2,5 years old.
[19:30] <x-X-x> genii i love u
[19:30] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: i will do.
[19:30] <penguinguy> Im having a problem with my D-Link WUA-2340 usb adapter. I think it needs restricted drivers, but the restricted drivers manager  says I don't need restricted drivers. What should I do?
[19:31] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : is it this monitor? LG Flatron L1811S
[19:31] <unimatrix9> http://computing.kelkoo.co.uk/ps_343462/114401.html
[19:31] <genii> x-X-x: That should work. If not let me know
[19:31] <WorkingOnWise> how can I give permission to administer the system to the logged on user with the user that doesnt have permission to administer the system?
[19:31] <rexy> Abyssal: lcd is very very flat, and not very deep, CRT are cathode ray tube screens like your tv, they ussually are 15cm deep or deeper
[19:31] <x-X-x> genii it allows me to enter the file but all subfolders i cant access
[19:31] <genii> WorkingOnWise: You can't
[19:32] <scguy318> penguinguy: wireless USB device?
[19:32] <penguinguy> yes
[19:32] <WorkingOnWise> Abyssal: if u cant find out for sure, 60 is a standard refresh for vga, so almost all monitors will at least tolerate it.
[19:32] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: yes it is this monitor. it says there that its refresh rate is maximum 85 Mhz. right?
[19:32] <scguy318> penguinguy: what chipset?
[19:32] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : yes right , so 75 is ok
[19:32] <genii> x-X-x: sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/games/<dirnamehere>
[19:32] <penguinguy> D-Link WUA-2340
[19:32] <genii> x-X-x: Will do it recursively to the subdirs as well then
[19:32] <WorkingOnWise> genii: how can I do it from the terminal as a user that can?
[19:32] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: great. thank you.
[19:33] <rencore_> how can i re authenticate my ubuntu repositories
[19:33] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : you can later modify xorg,conf if the fonts turn out to be blurring
[19:33] <chazco> Hi... i'm creating a .deb for a propriety application... Is there an "accepted" way of setting up mime.types/file associations (it uses the file extensions .tmd and .pmd) I should use? I'm aiming for as great a range of compatibility as possible.
[19:33] <Flare183> rencore_: sudo apt-get update
[19:33] <WorkingOnWise> i cant log in to gnome with my primary account till the encryption is done, about 3 hours still. I can log in with the terminal.
[19:34] <rencore_> Flare183, but what if my keys are gone?
[19:34] <x-X-x> genii thnx so much i can access everything but why does the folder still have an "x" ?
[19:34] <rencore_> Flare183, how can i readd them
[19:34] <genii> WorkingOnWise: You edit the file /etc/group and make the new user you want to be an admin into the group of admin
[19:34] <epifanio_> strange but when i type (as root) : "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" it stop the x gui, but the shall isn't ready to accept other commands, ... i've on the screen : http://rafb.net/p/6iEjDy72.html
[19:34] <NelsonUWP> hey guys, what is the best widget (whatever it's called) for gmail, i was looking at gdesklets but I was wondering if anything was better
[19:34] <Flare183> rencore_: use apt-key
[19:35] <epifanio_> i tried as normal user (not root) but i've the same results
[19:35] <WorkingOnWise> genii: whats the command to add a user to a group/ I'll man it from there.
[19:35] <unimatrix9> crtl+alt+backspace
[19:36] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: must look up the word blurring first. :-)
[19:36] <penguinguy> Im having a problem with my D-Link WUA-2340 usb adapter. I think it needs restricted drivers, but the restricted drivers manager  says I don't need restricted drivers. What should I do?
[19:36] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : the fonts are nor sharp?
[19:36] <unimatrix9> nor=not
[19:37] <scguy318> penguinguy: try ndiswrapper
[19:37] <WorkingOnWise> genii: unles u know a terminal editor that is very easy and obvious to used, like the old DOS Edit. Something with menus that i can navigate till i learn the keyboard.
[19:37] <scguy318> penguinguy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[19:37] <scguy318> WorkingOnWise: nano
[19:37] <scguy318> WorkingOnWise: but it's not like DOS edit, not really
[19:37] <tribaldata> !ndiswrapper | penguinguy
[19:37] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: hmm... maybe i need glasses. :-) it depends on what the alternative is, you know. difficult to say but i would say not totally sharp.
[19:37] <ubotu> penguinguy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:37] <genii> WorkingOnWise: sudo usermod -a -G admin <username>
[19:37] <WorkingOnWise> genii: ty
[19:37] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : i ment that the fonts are not opitmal sharp.. if you can compare them afcause
[19:38] <tribaldata> Abyssal: From this page your best refresh rate shoudl be 75
[19:38] <genii> WorkingOnWise: np
[19:38] <tribaldata> and now for my next trick the page http://www.warwood.com/Monitors/LG_Monitors/L1811S/L1811S.pdf
[19:38] <striphe> i am trying to connect my computer to the internet via a wireless connection. My windows machine recognizes 3 networks in range, but ubuntu is not howing ny connection under the network manager
[19:38] <genii> WorkingOnWise: As for editor, most people find nano understandable
[19:38] <epifanio_> any clue on how to stop the x server ? why the prompt do not accept commands after i typed : sudo etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[19:39] <unimatrix9> striphe : yours maybe set to hidden issed
[19:39] <scguy318> epifanio_: did you forget an initial slash?
[19:39] <scguy318> epifanio_: should be sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:39] <striphe> unimatrix, the network is open and unsecure
[19:39] <wols_> striphe: what wlan chip? and what driver do you use?
[19:39] <unimatrix9> i see
[19:39] <wols_> !wireless | striphe
[19:39] <ubotu> striphe: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:39] <patbam> hi, what could it mean if i get a segmentation fault when i try to run "df -h" ?
[19:39] <Abyssal> tribaldata: what is the link for?
[19:39] <patbam> somehow it strikes me as bad, ray.
[19:39] <genii> patbam: That your hd has problems
[19:39] <tribaldata> Abyssal: specs for your flatron
[19:40] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: what you mean by afcause?
[19:40] <patbam> genii: ok, that's what i was afraid of.
[19:40] <Abyssal> tribaldata: thanks again. i alredy have. thanks
[19:40] <WorkingOnWise> scguy318: genii I guess I'll have to give nano another try. It's not what I expected for a simple clean editor..I'm just an old DOS dog I guess.. the new trick thing and all :)
[19:40] <penguinguy> How do I install ndiswrapper
[19:40] <patbam> genii: is my bset bet to back up my stuff and then run gparted from a livecd to try to fix it?
[19:40] <wolfe> hi
[19:40] <penguinguy> is it just sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper?
[19:41] <wolfe> I'm trying to find what package nslookup is in, can anyone tell me? I'm making xen guest templates seem to be not installing something
[19:41] <genii> patbam: I would boot to livecd and then run fsck on it. also see i the df -h of livecd tells you how full it is. If over 100% (yes it sometimes reports more than 100% use) than judiciously remove some things
[19:41] <epifanio_> scguy318: i used : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ,  it stop the gnome gui
[19:42] <sh4|Gast> Hi! I'm trying to compile the realtek driver but I get this error: http://nopaste.info/2243602a49.html I don't know how to fix
[19:42] <WorkingOnWise> gonna go log off and on so I can admin the system now....
[19:42] <scguy318> epifanio_: yep, that's stopping the X server
[19:42] <tribaldata> wolfe: apt-cache search nslookup
[19:42] <Galactic> Hey everyone I keep trying to open youtube and well another website opens up I even use googles links I think google lost its domain name
[19:42] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: so how can i improve the font quality?
[19:42] <wolfe> tribaldata: I seen that just now :) thanks
[19:42] <Galactic> this is gonna be big news
[19:42] <epifanio_> scguy318:  but the prompt do not accept command
[19:42] <tribaldata> wolfe: np
[19:42] <scguy318> epifanio_: switch to tty1...or2
[19:42] <clever> !ndiswrapper
[19:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:42] <scguy318> epifanio_: and login
[19:42] <unimatrix9> Abyssal , is it set to 75hz? and whats the resolution?
[19:43] <scguy318> epifanio_: if you haven't already
[19:43] <penguinguy> How do you use ndiswrapper?
[19:43] <scguy318> penguinguy: you install it, install your Windows driver into it, blacklist the native modules, modprobe it, done
[19:43] <scguy318> penguinguy: the guide I linked you to details it
[19:43] <penguinguy> I dont have the windows drivers
[19:43] <epifanio_> scguy318:  how can i switch to tty1 .. or 2
[19:44] <scguy318> epifanio_: Ctrl-Alt-F1 or Ctrl-Alt-F2
[19:44] <scguy318> penguinguy: what device was it again? I'll fetch
[19:44] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: now on 1024*768 and 75 hz it is fine. but on 1152*768 and 75hz it is a little blurring.
[19:44] <tribaldata> !tty
[19:44] <ubotu> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[19:44] <epifanio_> scguy318:  ok :) let me try
[19:44] <penguinguy> D-Link WUA-2340
[19:45] <patbam> genii: thanks.
[19:45] <genii> patbam: Hope it helps
[19:45] <epifanio_> ok it works :-D  thanks !!!
[19:45] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : you used the blurring word, LOL
[19:46] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: lol. unsharp.
[19:46] <scguy318> penguinguy: ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/wua2340/Drivers/WUA2340_driver_140.zip
[19:46] <crush_groove> kcron info
[19:46] <truna> striphe, ubuntu also knows..type this command iwconfig wlan0 scan
[19:46] <logd> hi some1 could help me setting up ubuntu to share internet connection over a wifi ad-hoc connection (i'm already sharing the i. connection within the lan through iptables)
[19:46] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: hmm.... i will take 1024*768 that is fine.
[19:46] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : if its okay at 75 hz and 1024 then you dont have to edit
[19:46] <penguinguy> thanks scguy318
[19:46] <unimatrix9> my thoughts
[19:47] <unimatrix9> :P
[19:47] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: right. i will leave that out.
[19:47] <unimatrix9> any way got to go
[19:47] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: which resolution do you use?
[19:47] <unimatrix9> bye all, and happy new year!
[19:47] <truna> logd, you are already connected now from your client?
[19:47] <sh4|Gast> Somebody knows whats wrong with the compiling? Is this a mistake in the source code? http://nopaste.info/2243602a49.html
[19:47] <scguy318> penguinguy: don't use the Vista32/64 drivers, use the WinXP_2k folder
[19:48] <penguinguy> okau
[19:48] <logd> no
[19:48] <penguinguy> i mean okay
[19:48] <scguy318> penguinguy: and yes use the guide :)
[19:48]  * _Lucretia_ as
[19:48] <penguinguy> okay, thanks :-)
[19:48] <tribaldata> sh4|Gast: me german to rusty :\
[19:48] <logd> truna, i'm on the machine that will act as server
[19:49] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : are you still here?
[19:49] <truna> logd, on the client side, it can browse the internet?
[19:49] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: the higher the refresh rate the better it is for the eyes right? still here.
[19:49] <_Casey_> i try and open rar archives and it says not supported
[19:49] <logd> no and couldn't also ping the server
[19:49] <unimatrix9> here is my xorg config http://pastebin.com/d180ef618
[19:49] <scguy318> _Casey_: sudo apt-get install unrar
[19:50] <logd> mean ping server from client : dest. unreach - ping càlient from servàer - dest. unreach
[19:50] <unimatrix9> ask others help if you like to do this for your monitor too
[19:50] <truna> logd, what can you do between the two now? via the adhoc connection?
[19:50] <logd> nothing
[19:50] <unimatrix9> its a bit tricky to do
[19:50] <logd> the clàient
[19:50] <unimatrix9> good luck , and bye bye
[19:50] <logd> just see there's a adhoàc càonnection as says "connect" signal strong
[19:50] <truna> logd, you have to respond with my nick as prefix or i will miss your messages
[19:50] <logd> truna, ok sorry ;à9
[19:51] <x-X-x> where can i download .svg's for my menus?
[19:51] <unimatrix9> Abyssal : ps you can copy the file into an text editor and save if to study
[19:51] <truna> logd start with your explanation again
[19:51] <unimatrix9> hehe
[19:51] <unimatrix9> :)
[19:51] <^root^> i installed KDE the other day and now i have the Boot screen of Kubuntu with blue progress bar, i like the Ubuntu one more, how to get that back? i think i gotta change to gdm somewhere..
[19:51] <unimatrix9> diner is getting cold, bye bye\
[19:51] <unimatrix9> :)
[19:51] <Abyssal> unimatrix9: which file?
[19:51] <flexgrip> Can anyone help me track down what is horribly slowing my system down.
[19:51] <scguy318> !usplash | ^root^
[19:51] <ubotu> ^root^: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[19:51] <truna> flexgrip, start with top and free
[19:52] <logd> truna, so the client says there's  wifi connection and connects to - but nothing other work mean ping - surginf etc
[19:52] <penguinguy> Does anyone know how to recreate the thermal trip points for an acpi fan?
[19:53] <truna> logd i dont think you really have a connection between the two pc, check the one first, ie make sure you can transfer file between them back and forth
[19:53] <logd> truna - this is what i need helpà for ;)
[19:53] <logd> (i already know stuff about the sharing part)
[19:53] <truna> logd and do not forget, to ping a destination, it has to have an ip address, actually both sides
[19:53] <flexgrip> truna: nothing was really getting my cpu usage over 1% and it says i have used zero bytes of my swap
[19:54] <bqmassey_> whats the recommended download manager for ubuntu?
[19:54] <truna> logd  why are you doing it this way? why not get a real AP instead of this adhoc connection?
[19:54] <logd> i need this as temporary sàolution
[19:54] <truna> flexgrip, then can you define what do you meant by slowdown?
[19:54] <codename> I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers
[19:55] <codename> I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[19:55] <bqmassey_> how do i update an app with a new version that's in the repositories
[19:55] <bqmassey_> in the command line
[19:55] <truna> logd not worth it..find a permanent solution
[19:55] <codename> and when I install them it acts like its booting to it, but them monitor acts likes it keeps switching on and off
[19:55] <tribaldata> bqmassey_: apt-get update appname
[19:55] <scguy318> penguin: some editing in /etc/sensors.conf possibly
[19:55] <scguy318> penguinguy: some editing in /etc/sensors.conf possibly
[19:55] <SpookyET> I plugin a camera. It gets detected. I click "import photos". It does nothing. It doesn't even mount it
[19:55] <bqmassey_> that doesn't work tribaldata
[19:56] <flexgrip> truna: the last thing i did was apt-get the mythtv frontend. Then when I would type. The text would lag 4 seconds behind in firefox, but not in a terminal
 I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[19:56] <flexgrip> truna: video playback is hosed too
[19:56] <tribaldata> bqmassey_: if your source containt the new and uopdated version it shoudl
[19:57] <truna> flexgrip, whatever script is running in firefox is not the fault of ubuntu..slowness in response can be caused by anything
[19:57] <penguinguy> scguy318: /etc/sensors.conf doesn't exist
[19:57] <bqmassey_> apt-get update doesn't take parameters, tribaldata (i think it justs updates the lists)
[19:57] <truna> flexgrip, as you have proven by using a terminal console
 I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[19:57]  * truna away from keyboard for a few.. brb
[19:57] <WorkingOnWise> what is the default resolution and color depth for usplash images?
[19:57] <TurboBee> how do I disable ubuntu's firewall
[19:58] <flexgrip> truna: it wasnt only in firefox. mythtv would take forever to load, and when i would hit a button in the menus it would lag behind about 5 seconds. the same with VLC media player. And VLC wont play back video... its realllly reallly choppy
[19:58] <scguy318> bqmassey_: upgrade?
[19:58] <scguy318> penguinguy: you'll probably need to install lm-sensors
[19:58] <bqmassey_> scguy318:  yeah that works, thanks
 I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[19:58] <lokos> ok
[19:58] <tribaldata> bqmassey_: sorry my bad
[19:58] <lokos> so i can't create a proper torrent in createtorrent
[19:58] <lokos> any1 know a solution ?
[19:59]  * tribaldata damn you fingers...
[19:59] <lokos> it says "it's not a bencoded file"
[19:59] <bqmassey_> tribaldata:  np :) thanks for the help
 I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[20:00] <Pelo> codename, look up your card model in the forum or in the hardware sheet , www.ubuntuforums.org or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[20:00] <flexgrip> truna: I reinstalled the ati driver and the text lag went away. But everything is just dog slow now and video playback is at about 2fps. But comiz, the cube, wobbly windows are smooth as silk
[20:01] <Karyom> Is anyone here already in 2008?!
[20:01] <tribaldata> Pelo: still did go shoveling all that snow :)
[20:01] <Pelo> Karyom, I don'T hold with new stuff, I'm staying with the old for as long as I can
[20:01] <Ttech> Where would I place a app on Ubuntu?
[20:01] <scguy318> Ttech: what sort of app?
[20:02] <Pelo> tribaldata, nah,  it can hold untill after supper,  there isnT' all that much about 4 inches and the driveway is already done, just the car and around the car to clear realy
[20:02] <NelsonUWP> why cant I install screenlets correctly?
[20:02] <Ttech> scguy aptana IDE
[20:02] <Karyom> I mean because in Australia is already 2008
[20:02] <Pelo> Ttech, you let ubuntu do i t
[20:02] <flexgrip> Does anyone like linux mint?
[20:02] <scguy318> Ttech: you would probably unpack it and run the configure script (if any), then run make then sudo make install probably
[20:02] <Ttech> Pelo,  err, how? I downloaded it from the web
[20:02] <Pelo> NelsonUWP, I've never had much luck with screenlets, I use gdesklets
[20:02] <tribaldata> flexgrip: taste good ;P
[20:02] <Ttech> scguy318, I do not htink its an open source app, its already compliled
[20:02] <scguy318> Ttech: there's no single directory that holds an application
[20:02] <ompaul> !offtopic | Karyom , flexgrip
[20:02] <ubotu> Karyom , flexgrip: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:02] <Pelo> Ttech, what kind of file idiyou dl ?
[20:02] <scguy318> Ttech: in that case just make install
[20:03] <scguy318> Ttech: probably
[20:03] <Ttech> Pelo: its an archive
[20:03] <scguy318> Ttech: or read the README/INSTALL files
[20:03] <Pelo> Ttech, tar.gz ?
[20:03] <NelsonUWP> pelo: i've never had much lick with gdesklets... and I cant find any good ones on their website
[20:03] <Ttech> scguy318, I didn't see any
[20:03] <Ttech> Pelo,  ey
[20:03] <Karyom> uuh someone is straight today
[20:03] <Pelo> Ttech, what app is it ?
[20:03] <_mug> hey
[20:03] <flexgrip> !Nigger | Karyom -- Take it easy blacky
[20:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nigger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:03] <Pelo> !ops  | flexgrip
[20:03] <ubotu> flexgrip: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[20:04] <_mug> is there a simple way to subtitle a video in ubuntu?
[20:04] <Karyom> lol you really dont now how I am look like *lol*
[20:04] <Pelo> Ttech,  I suggest you start with reading this,  but remember that instlling from the repos is alsways a better options if you cna find hte app in there http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
 I have some problems when I try to install my GFX card drivers I have a NVIDIA GeForce 5200 FX
[20:05] <_mug> codename: did it 1h ago :) what are the problems?
[20:05] <codename> like
[20:05] <Pelo> _mug, there are sites where you can get str files ( I think that«'s the extension) for the movies you have
[20:05] <codename> when i install them
[20:05] <codename> It acts like its booting up
[20:05] <ompaul> !offtopic | Karyom
[20:05] <codename> but like the monitor goes on and off like its trying to refresh
[20:05] <ubotu> Karyom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:05] <_mug> Pelo: no i want to create subtitles
[20:06] <codename> then it goes "It's tried to boot 6 times or more"
[20:06] <Karyom> jaja
[20:06] <truna> TurboBee, you dont really disable the firewall, you just have no rules so it is open
[20:06] <penguinguy> About my D-Link WUA-2340, ndiswrapper didn't work
[20:06] <codename> Should I change my resoltuion?
[20:06] <SpookyET> "Import photos" does not do anything
[20:06] <Karyom> cu
[20:06] <SpookyET> any ideas?
[20:06] <Ttech> Pelo, err I know that stuff, never thought about the after compiled do make install. But how do I upgrade?
[20:06] <_mug> codename: slowly please :)
[20:06] <Abyssal> is there in ubuntu a programme where you can detect WLANs near you?
[20:06] <Pelo> _mug, then it is just a matter of making a text file and putting it in the same folder as the movie with the proper extension , or are you taking about hard coded subs on the movie itself ?
[20:06] <SpookyET> I don't see the camera mounted anywhere
[20:06] <Anderson> Abyssal, iwlist -scan
[20:06] <truna> Abyssal, yes,  iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:07] <_mug> codename: i guess u got a running ubuntu-install, then bought a new nvidia (may switched from ati or something)?
[20:07] <codename> nah
[20:07] <Pelo> Ttech, you donT' upgrade a source code install, you remove the old on and compile the new one
[20:07] <codename> I think it has something to do with the resolution
[20:07] <_mug> Pelo: either hardcoded or textfile+movie->compiler :)
[20:07] <Abyssal> Anderson: is this a command on the shell?
[20:07] <Ttech> Pelo: ok but that didn't work "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop"
[20:07] <penguinguy> Abyssal, if you click the network manager in the top right, you can see nearby networks (and connect)
[20:07] <Ttech> Its already compliled
[20:07] <Pelo> _mug, I think you should google a bit, never actualy done it personnaly
[20:08] <Pelo> Ttech, gimme a link to the source file so I can have a look
[20:08] <_mug> codename: you may query if you wish to :)
[20:08] <Ttech> souce? There is no souce but ok http://www.aptana.com/download/index.php
[20:08] <pteague_work> what exactly does apport do?
[20:09] <tonyyarusso> pteague_work: automatically generates and sends in crash reports
[20:09] <codename> how do I change resolution
[20:09] <codename> "(
[20:09] <_mug> codename: ah didnt see your post. so what did you do since it worked the last time?
[20:09] <Pelo> Ttech, ok a bit of linux lingo ,  compiling from source is what you call it when you install someting from a tar.gz file
[20:09] <Abyssal> penguinguy: can't see a network manager
[20:09] <_mug> codename: if you have a running x then install nvidia-settings
[20:09] <_mug> oder -config
[20:09] <Ttech> Pelo: yea.
[20:09] <_mug> dunno
[20:10] <Abyssal> penguinguy: do not have a wlan btw. just wanted to have that information.
[20:10] <Pelo> Ttech, give me a minute, I'm dling it I'm gonna take a look when it's done
[20:10] <_mug> codename: if not youll have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:10] <_mug> (as root
[20:10] <Ttech> Pelo, its a zip file anyway. Ok
[20:10] <Ttech> :)
[20:10] <codename> then what
[20:10] <codename> :(
[20:10] <codename> lol
[20:10] <pteague_work> hmm... i'm guessing then that i crashed firefox again...  i wonder wth is going on today
[20:11] <Abyssal> penguinguy: so generally speaking there is a program to scan the area around you and detect networks like when sitting at an airport?
[20:11] <jlulian38> Is there a relatively easy to setup application I can use to monitor all network traffic I can see. Unlike Etheral/Wireshark though, I'd like it if it could draw purtiful graphs
[20:11] <_mug> codename: for starters: there are a bunch of resolution blocks. delete those you dont want and try again, but backup your xorg.conf before changing
[20:11] <tribaldata> Abyssal: exactly
[20:11]  * Pelo is a bit annoyed that this .zip file is getting him the best dl speed he's had in a long time and it's not even something he wants
[20:11] <tonyyarusso> jlulian38: mrtg?
[20:11] <codename> ok
[20:12] <jlulian38> That isn't the one that makes you want to kill yourself is it D=
[20:12] <Abyssal> tribaldata: just looking for a nice notebook on ebay. :-)
[20:12] <misterblonde2517> HI, i was wondering if someone could help me install xubuntu on my old dell
[20:12] <_mug> codename: sorry that was crap
[20:12] <M[n]M> i can
[20:12] <M[n]M> only tomorow
[20:12] <M[n]M> ;)
[20:12] <ompaul> misterblonde2517, ask in #xubuntu perhaps
[20:12] <penguinguy> Yes. Network Manager is the little computer icon you see in the top right. If you have a wireless card, clicking it lists nearby networks.
[20:12] <codename> ha
[20:12] <misterblonde2517> ok, thank you
[20:13] <penguinguy> Clicking on one of the netork names conects you to it
[20:13] <Abyssal> tribaldata: do you know where the minimum requirements for ubuntu linux are listed?
[20:13] <beta> Since feisty runs xgl/aiglx by default, how can we now run without it? I can't run 3d games because of it (or at least i think that is the reason)
[20:13] <iNeo> ls
[20:13] <tribaldata> !spec
[20:13] <ubotu> A spec is the details (specifications) of the components that make up software or a device. See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+specs for specifications in Ubuntu.
[20:14] <tribaldata> Abyssal:  not exactly let me check
[20:14] <kukikoala> No SATA device found on Jetway 939GT4-SLI-G Motherboard  Help please!!
[20:14] <Ttech> Pelo, still downloading?
[20:14] <Abyssal> tribaldata: wait i will do that.
[20:14] <Pelo> Ttech, 66%
[20:15] <_mug> codename: maybe try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[20:15] <Abyssal> tribaldata: do not makr my work. :-)
[20:15] <Ttech> Pelo, yea its big
[20:15] <Ttech> :/
[20:15]  * Pelo will never forgive Ttech 
[20:15] <Abyssal> tribaldata: here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution)
[20:15] <misterblonde2517> no one seems to be responding, does anyone by any chance know why my installation would go fine and then on the inital boot up stop completely after the load screen
[20:16] <codename> how do i open my Xorg
[20:16] <codename> sudo what
[20:16] <codename> thanks
[20:16] <scott_> misterblonde2517: where does it stop?
[20:16] <Pelo> Ttech, you know there are whole linux distros that are smaller then this
[20:16] <ompaul> !bootoptions | misterblonde2517
[20:16] <ubotu> misterblonde2517: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[20:16] <scott_> misterblonde2517: Grub?
[20:16] <tribaldata> Abyssal: beat em to it :)
[20:16] <_mug> btw thanx to you guys (dont remember your names :/ ) who pointed me to abandon my ati card :P bought a cheap nvidia and erverythings fine :P
[20:16] <xai> is there any app I can use on ubuntu to upload audio/video to a disney mix player?
[20:16] <Pelo> codename, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:16] <Pelo> !enter | codename
[20:16] <ubotu> codename: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:16] <codename> thanks
[20:16] <ompaul> codename, can you keep it all to one line, you want sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg more than that
[20:17]  * Scunizi *
[20:17] <Pelo> xai, does it support regular  mpeg formats like avi and such ? just plug it in and hope it mounts as external storage media
[20:17] <Abyssal> tribaldata: very fine--> very cheap notebook + free OS + WLAN = internet connection haha
[20:17] <Ttech> Pelo, yeah, but PHPedit does not work well (at all) on Ubuntu, so I have to look at alternatives
[20:17] <penguinguy> xai: Do you just need to convert media?
[20:17] <codename> what is default depth?
[20:17] <Pelo> Ttech, almost done, gimme a minute to check it out
[20:18] <Scunizi> Is there anyone who works with gnumeric and can tell me how to set the sheet to print horizontal instead of letter?
[20:18] <lashmoove> im tryying to share my ubuntu box internet connection with my xbox, this tut isnt working https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[20:18] <xai> penguinguy: i don't have it yet, but I'm doing some pre-research.. Not sure yet.
[20:18] <Ttech> Pelo, ok
[20:18] <Ttech> :)
[20:18] <x_zeuss> hi
[20:18] <x_zeuss> need some help
[20:19] <xai> Pelo: I wish I knew..
[20:19] <x_zeuss> i just installed MS true type fonts but they just don't appear anywhere
[20:19] <Blizz> how do i get rythmbox to recognize aac & mp3 formats ?
[20:19] <Pelo> Ttech, just dbl click on the AptanaStudio file in the unpacked zip folder and follow the instructiosn
[20:19] <Abyssal> what does the dpi say about a printer?
[20:19] <x_zeuss> in openoffice or mozilla fonts
[20:19] <Ttech> Pelo, err, what instructions it starts the app and makes the user dirs
[20:19] <Ttech> Pelo, where do I put it
[20:19] <Pelo> xai,  try doing a search for the device in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[20:19] <Ttech> I don't really want to put it in my user directory
[20:20] <Pelo> Ttech, you can let it put the user dir where it wants,  if it is in /home/username/aptache.../ whatveer it is ok
[20:20] <maeth> how can i clear every iptables config currently up??
[20:21] <Ttech> Pelo, i mean the application dir
[20:21] <Blizz> how do i get rythmbox to regognize mp3s
[20:21] <ompaul> maeth, sudo iptables -F     if I remember correctly (been a while ;-))
[20:21] <Ttech> I want to put it someplace else other then the USer Dir because that zip file ahs the entire app in it.
[20:21] <codename> HorizSync	28-64
[20:21] <codename> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[20:21] <genii> Ttech: Usual convention is /usr/local/<progname>   or /opt/<progname>
[20:21] <x_zeuss> anyone?
[20:21] <codename> is that bad?
[20:21] <x_zeuss> ?
[20:21] <Pelo> Ttech, considering it is not a regular linux file , I would just copy it to /home/username and run it from there
[20:21] <x_zeuss> anyone?
[20:21] <penguinguy> x_zeuss: Maybe this will help : http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[20:21] <Ttech> Pelo, hmm
[20:21] <Ttech> Ok
[20:22] <Pelo> genii, don'T mess with this one , it is a selfcontained trail version, it does not install
[20:22] <vanchu> I have a dumb question, I have a theme that requires me to cut and paste a folder as room , how do I do that ?
[20:22] <Pelo> and it is java to boot
[20:22] <Tux_TuX> hola a todos, disculpen alguien sabe la direccion para escuchar en internet radio habana o alguna estacion cubana gracias
[20:22] <vanchu> *root
[20:22] <_mug> Pelo: you in case you care: http://gnome-subtitles.sourceforge.net/ :P
[20:22] <Pelo> vanchu, use sudo to run the command,   sudo cp /source /destination
[20:22] <Ttech> Pelo, so I can't (or shouldn't) put the app anywhere else?
[20:23] <Pelo> _mug, I dont, realy but I'll read it just for the heck of it
[20:23] <_mug> Pelo: hrhr
[20:23] <Pelo> Ttech, not this one
[20:23] <x_zeuss> help agains pls: when i do a sudo command i get this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan  1 06:46:49 2008
[20:23] <maeth> ompaul, ok, seems like it worked, thnx... but i have a big problem , i cant forward any incoming ports!! why??
[20:23] <Ttech> Pelo, ok
[20:24] <root> x_zeuss: What command gives you that error?
[20:24] <x-X-x> how do i copy and paste a picture thats sitting on my desktop to a write protected directory using the terminal ??
[20:24] <ianm_> any ideas for fixing non-working mic after suspend/resume? (Gutsy on a Thinkpad T23)
[20:24] <x_zeuss> root: any sudo command
[20:24] <maeth> ompaul, i thought that my problem was that i was writing the script incorrectly, so i installed firestarter, and still... i cant forward any inconming ports,
[20:24] <truna> x-X-x, if you are root its doable
[20:24] <root> x-X-x: sudo cp SOURCE DEST
[20:24] <x-X-x> yes using sudo
[20:24] <maeth> and i am sharing internet
[20:24] <x-X-x> kk
[20:24] <x_zeuss> for example i did this: sudo fc-cache -fv
[20:24] <ompaul> maeth, does this help:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[20:25] <Pelo> Ttech, this particular app is does not install, it is a self-containted trail version, I wouldn't want to start messing around with the files and putting them where they might cause problems with my real apps ,  just copy the unzipped folder to the /home or run it from the destkop ( which is located in /home anyway) you can make a launcher( shortcut) to start the app if you want to , but you will proably be deleting this in a month anyway, it
[20:25] <Pelo> 's jsut a trial version
[20:25] <root> For sudo, you need to enter YOUR password...
[20:25] <__mikem> root: are you logged into irc as root?
[20:25] <Blizz> can someone help me
[20:25] <x_zeuss> root: i can't enter the pass because i get that error
[20:26] <Pelo> _mug, very interesting actualy, I doubt I'll ever use it but it it worth bookmarking
[20:26] <Pelo> thanks
[20:26] <Pelo> Blizz,  we need to know what is wrong
[20:26] <Ttech> Pelo, its not a trial version.
[20:26] <Blizz> pelo: i;d like to be able to play aac/mp3 under rythmbox.. atm all it sees are ogg vorbis files..
[20:26] <Ttech> Pelo, which version idd you download?
[20:26] <maeth> ompaul, can i post a
[20:27] <maeth> ompaul, can i post my config and you check it out plz?
[20:27] <Pelo> Ttech, it said trial on the page of the link you gave me , in any case it it's like that , donT' try to put the files elswhere then your /home, that is my recommendation
[20:27] <ompaul> maeth, I think it is something rather simple I will find what I want you read about and give you a url give me a moment
[20:27] <Pelo> Blizz, can you open the mp3 files from the file :> open in rhythmbox ?
[20:28] <Blizz> pelo: i have all my songs in my home/user/music folder.. but all it recognizes are the ogg formats. not mp3/aac
[20:28] <piero> I was changing to xfce instead of gnome. The problem I can`t solve is that the fonts are too small in my window-manager title (the name of the window) and in the default font use in the programs like xchat. (I need to configure the font size in each program, if it is possible). Is there a solution to this problem
[20:28] <cabrioleur> !codecs
[20:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:28] <Pelo> !mp3 > Blizz check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[20:28] <Blizz> pelo: i think i need some codecs but i am not sure which
[20:28] <Pelo> Blizz, read the pm you got from ubotu
[20:29] <beta> Is there a way to switch to no Xgl in Feisty? I'd like to be able to disable it so I can run games
[20:29] <Blizz> pelo: k
[20:30] <Pelo> beta, you can comment it out of xorg.conf but you would have to restart x
[20:30] <ompaul> maeth, have a look at this: http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm  in particular this part:   echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[20:31] <aubade> Blizz: Easier solution might be to run games in something like xnest.
[20:31]  * Pelo thinks opapo_  is a bit trigger happy today 
[20:31]  * Pelo thinks ompaul  is a bit trigger happy today 
[20:31] <vimana> how do i unmount a drive?
[20:31] <ompaul> Pelo, na that was a please fix your connection
[20:31] <aubade> vimana: umount
[20:31] <Pelo> vimana,  sudo umount /mount/point
[20:32] <Fran> hello!
[20:32] <Pelo> !hi | Fran
[20:32] <ubotu> Fran: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:32] <amainland> I have a question about distros how is ubuntu different from something like debian? Besides the bundled software is the directory structure different or something ?
[20:32] <arnath> what's the easiest way to play a midi file in ubuntu?
[20:32] <ompaul> !offtopic | amainland (talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want)
[20:32] <ubotu> amainland (talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:33] <maeth> ompaul, checking :D
[20:33] <Fran> does anybody knows how to install windows but keeping the linux already installed untuched?
[20:33] <Pelo> amainland,  directory structure is much the same on most linux distro,   and ubuntu is based on debian so they are very similar but for the software bit
[20:33] <vimana> pelo, is mount point /dev/sda1 or /media/usbdisk
[20:33] <Pelo> ompaul, that was ontopic
[20:33] <chazco>  Hi... i'm creating a .deb for a propriety application... Is there an "accepted" way of setting up mime.types/file associations (it uses the file extensions .tmd and .pmd) I should use? I'm aiming for as great a range of compatibility as possible.
[20:33] <Pelo> vimana, the second one , the first one is the devtree
[20:33] <scguy318> vimana: the latter
[20:34] <scguy318> vimana: the former is the device name
[20:34] <Pelo> chazco, this might not be the best place to ask ,  you might want to give the ppl in #ubuntu-dev a  try
[20:34] <penguinguy1234> Fran: There's a support page for that. Let me find it..
[20:34] <Fran> ah... ok
[20:34] <chazco> Pelo - been aksing in ubuntu-motu, got no answers yet... will try the other
[20:34] <AbstortedMinds> hi everyone :)
[20:34] <Blizz> pelo: so like i need the restricted extras or the w32codecs?
[20:34] <Pelo> chazco, #debian might also be able to help
[20:35] <chazco> hmm.. the topic for -dev says not for application development
[20:35] <arnath> what's the easiest way to play a midi file in ubuntu?
[20:35] <Pelo> Blizz, the restricted extras should install the w32codecs
[20:35] <Galactic> hey everyone my ubuntu is infected what should I do?
[20:35] <AbstortedMinds> infected?
[20:35] <scguy318> Galactic: infected how?
[20:35] <Fran> yes cause I really want to keep my ubuntu untuched, i really want to get rid of that annoying vista
[20:35] <gean> hi! help me please: got (k)ubuntu on the HD of "the other" laptop, in order to install all the soft, i need to install the WLAN card (A Fritz!Box WLAN 7170). The Laptop is a Targa Visionary 1600 that run on a half partition an old ubuntu 5.10 with internet access. Ubuntu 5.10 installed without problems in hardware detection. Any suggestions?!
[20:35] <Galactic> whenever I go to you tube it sends me to another website
[20:35] <Pelo> Galactic, it's not infected, it is normal to dualboot windows if you havne't asked to overwrite it
[20:36] <Galactic> wtf are u talking about?
[20:36] <AbstortedMinds> I'd like to DUAL boot my macbook pro, does anyone know where i can find a GOOD tut
[20:36] <Scunizi> Galactic, why do you think ubuntu is infected?
[20:36] <astro76> Galactic, there's a simple test to tell whether you are infected
[20:36] <Galactic> look I cant even visit youtube anymore
[20:37] <astro76> Galactic, are you running Linux? if yes, then you are not ;)
[20:37] <Galactic> it sends me to another website
[20:37] <Pelo> AbstortedMinds, check the install section of the forum
[20:37] <Galactic> my other computers have youtube all working fine
[20:37] <vicky_> hello
[20:37] <Pelo> Galactic, what otherwebsite ?
[20:37] <arnath> Galactic: where are you being redirected to?
[20:37] <Galactic> youtube.com/my
[20:37] <astro76> Galactic, pastebin the output of 'nslookup youtube.com'
[20:37] <Galactic> well it shows up just as youtube
[20:38] <Galactic> what?
[20:38] <vicky_> its my first time here
[20:38] <Galactic> that's nslookup?
[20:38] <Galactic> whats?
[20:38] <Galactic> **
[20:38] <Blizz> pelo: i already have flash installed though cant i get the packages individually
[20:38] <Pelo> !hi | vicky_
[20:38] <ubotu> vicky_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:38] <p> How can I block or limit downloads by p2p programs in my network? I'm trying to do it with ettercap, but I need a automatic script
[20:38] <nickrud> !welcome | vicky_
[20:38] <ubotu> vicky_: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[20:38] <arnath> Galactic: so you stay on the youtube.com site? this seems like a youtube redirection to me
[20:38] <arnath> are you logged in or something?
[20:38] <vicky_> can anyone tell me how to
[20:38] <AbstortedMinds> pelo, that is for Triple boot
[20:38] <Galactic> I go to youtube from googles links and it sends me to that site
[20:38] <RoxanneEDM> th0 you around?
[20:38] <scott_> wait, youtube.com/my
[20:38] <Pelo> Blizz,if a an app is already installed it wil not get reisntalled, just instll restricrted with no worries
[20:39] <vicky_> how to set up a vpn
[20:39] <Galactic> how do I use nslookup?
[20:39] <scott_> Galactic: Do you have a youtube.com account with preferences for a homepage?
[20:39] <Galactic> no
[20:39] <Galactic> nothing like thar
[20:39] <Pelo> AbstortedMinds, just do a search for dualboot OSX ubuntu
[20:39] <astro76> Galactic, type it in a terminal
[20:39] <scott_> yeah, try using lynx
[20:39] <Blizz> pelo: i am worried.
[20:39] <Pelo> gean, you need to restate your problem no one understood it
[20:40] <Galactic> what's the url for pastebin?
[20:40] <Blizz> pelo: i'd prefer not to have java in
[20:40] <vicky_> or how to convert all my internet traffic via asterisk
[20:40] <scguy318> !pastebin | Galactic
[20:40] <ubotu> Galactic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:40] <Galactic> k here i go
[20:40] <scott_> Galactic: The web address so we can get to your pastebin
[20:40] <Pelo> Blizz, menu > system > admin> synaptic package managher,   search for gstreamer install all the gstreamer0.10 packages you see, then search for lame and instal it then for mpeg123 and mpeg321 instal those as well that should cover it
[20:40] <Galactic> I installed some apps today via the repos and then this started happening
[20:41] <scott_> Galactic: please, do tell
[20:41] <Galactic> I think one must have been infected
[20:41] <Pelo> Galactic, what apps ?
[20:41] <Galactic> since it said it wasnt autenticated
[20:41] <scott_> Galactic: not likely, which apps?
[20:41] <Galactic> I forget
[20:41] <Galactic> Im trying to remember this whole thing has pissed me off a bit
[20:41] <RoxanneEDM> can someonetell me where the movie goes once i compress it with DVDshrink..............
[20:41] <Pelo> Galactic, the only time you get not antenticated app from repos are from backport and from 3rd party repos
[20:42] <arnath> RoxanneEDM: it's been a while, but as i recall, you can specify the directory when you click "backup"
[20:42] <Pelo> RoxanneEDM, possibly a hidden folder in your /home or a folder you specified
[20:42] <Galactic> ok well I switched my synpatic to all available sources
[20:42] <Fran> could you find anything?
[20:42] <RoxanneEDM> its in some folder on the C:drive
[20:42] <stephans> sorry I was away, why does ubuntu only see 3.0 GIG of mem when I have 4?
[20:42] <RoxanneEDM> its running under wine
[20:42] <x-X-x> when copying and pasting a file through terminal using: "sudo cp folder folder" can the name of the previouse folder contain spaces ?
[20:42] <scguy318> RoxanneEDM: somewhere in ~/.wine/* probably
[20:43] <jpatrick> Galactic: check /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[20:43] <aubade> RoxanneEDM: Oh, somewhere under ~/.wine then.
[20:43] <Pelo> Galactic, I doudt very much this is a ubuntu problem   try clearing your firefox history and cookies , I bet it goes away
[20:43] <scott_> Galactic: including test and development and unreleased?
[20:43] <arnath> RoxanneEDM: ah, wine has an emulated c drive somewhere, i believe it's in a hidden folder in your /home folder
[20:43] <stephans> I have 4 GIG of ram installen in the system .. is there a kernel parameter I need or something to let the system see all the ram?
[20:43] <arnath> stephans: to the best of my knowledge, 32 bit ubuntu can only use up to 3.2 gig
[20:43] <Galactic> here's my pastebin
[20:43] <Galactic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50313/
[20:44] <stephans> arnath, really!?
[20:44] <mrapollo> /home/user/.wine/drive_c
[20:44] <vicky_> hello
 when copying and pasting a file through terminal using: "sudo cp folder folder" can the name of the previous folder contain spaces ? anyone help me ?
[20:44] <arnath> stephans: to my knowledge, this is a restriction on all 32 bit systems (including windows)
[20:44] <scguy318> setphans: I think with PAE you can get more, but I think it's 1 GB kernel/3 GB userspace
[20:44] <vicky_> can some one tell me how to set up vpn
[20:44] <Pelo> x-X-x,  you need to prefix the space with \  as in this\ has\ several_spaces_in_it
[20:44] <Pelo> jbrb
[20:44] <scguy318> stephans: see above, and normally its 1 GB/3 GB
[20:44] <arnath> vicky_: what type of vpn?
[20:44] <vicky_> remote
[20:44] <x-X-x> k
[20:44] <emmajane> galactic, what's the problem you're having?
[20:44] <arnath> vicky_: i mean, ssh, ipsec,... ?
[20:45] <thekillerplague1> hi
[20:45] <arnath> vicky_: ssl*
[20:45] <vicky_> ipsec
[20:45] <thekillerplague1> does anyone know about gkdial
[20:45] <Galactic> when I look up youtube Im redirected to another website
[20:45] <Pelo> thekillerplague1, specific qustions get you more results
[20:45] <stephans> arnath, scguy318: In suse they have a big-smp kernel... 32 bit...
[20:45] <Galactic> the website is some bs search portal
[20:45] <emmajane> galactic, do you trust your Internet Service Provider to not do silly things?
[20:45] <thekillerplague1> can anyone help me with gkdial
[20:45] <Pelo> Galactic, did you clear your firefox history and cookies ?
[20:45] <stephans> it can see more ram...
[20:45] <Galactic> all of my other computers work and load it perfectly
[20:45] <Pelo> thekillerplague1, what prohlem are you having with gkdial ?
[20:45] <arnath> vicky_: you mean the client side then?
[20:46] <vicky_> yes
[20:46] <Galactic> I cleaned out my history on firefox and it still sends me to the site
[20:46] <thekillerplague1> pelo i cant seem to get a dial tone with gkdial or wvdial
[20:46] <Volkodav> opera is not available as a package?
[20:46] <arnath> vicky_: network manager has a plugin for it, but i can't remember, will have a look if i can find it
[20:46] <Galactic> how do I check my system log again?
 yes it it
[20:46] <stephans> is
[20:46] <jpatrick> Sapote: la mia tampoco acabo de descubrir que no puedo entrar en tantas canales..
[20:46] <emmajane> galactic, history is a good thing to clear out, but cookies should be cleared out too.
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS
[20:46] <jpatrick> arg, wrong channel
[20:46] <Pelo> Galactic, righclick open link this link  and them paste back the link you end up iwth in FF  www.youtube.com
[20:46] <emmajane> galactic, do you know where they are?
[20:46] <x-X-x> pelo i get this " > " when i press enter ?? whats that
 enable the other repositories...
[20:47] <vicky_> can you email it to me
[20:47] <thekillerplague1> jack that will tell me what modem i have?
[20:47] <Galactic> gksudo gedit /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[20:47] <Galactic> what's ff?
[20:47] <bofh80> ok peeps. i shoved 2 gig of memory in my machine, i been using 512 for years. so like do i have to do anything to ubuntu to tell it to stop using swap space or any other speed ups? or is it all good? :)
[20:47] <emmajane> galactic, firefox
[20:47] <vicky_> what it i have to do to set a vpn
[20:47] <Pelo> x-X-x, sorry might be the other one / not \  sorry
 you can download a package (deb) for ubuntu from Opera directly
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: IT will tell you if it is a hardware modem on a standard ttys port
[20:47] <astro76> bofh80, you don't have to do anything with swap
[20:47] <Galactic> ok it plainly says youtube.com but it aint no youtube
[20:47] <RoxanneEDM> ok, this DVDshrink is not working easily for me ... anyone got a different solution for me to copy this damn Bratz movie ?
[20:47] <_mug> Galactic: i only read a few lines.. may this was mentioned: check your proxy settings in firefox or try to use another browser AND check your /etc/hosts for any malicious content
[20:47] <Pelo> Galactic, ff is firefox
[20:47] <thekillerplague1> OK HOLD ON
[20:47] <vicky_> also is the anyway
[20:47] <vicky_> i can run asterisk
[20:48] <thekillerplague1> DMESG | GREP TTYS
[20:48] <Voyage_> how do i configure gallery2 with fastcgi is there a howto
[20:48] <Pelo> thekillerplague1, cap locks off please
[20:48] <thekillerplague1> I JUST HAD TO GET A COPY OF IT
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> RoxanneEDM: k9copy
[20:48] <arnath> RoxanneEDM: k9copy indeed :)
[20:48] <ompaul> !caps | thekillerplague1
[20:48] <ubotu> thekillerplague1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:48] <RoxanneEDM> thank you guys
[20:48] <RoxanneEDM> i will try it
[20:48] <penguinguy1234> Whats to channel name for the off topic ubuntu channels
[20:48] <Galactic> this is what I get a two frame search portal saying this as the first line of many The domain name    has been reserved.
[20:48] <vicky_> on my system and have all internet traffic convert to asterisk
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[20:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:48] <Pelo> penguinguy1234, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:48] <bofh80> astro76, cheers :) i do things for people who put a lot of memory in windows boxes to speed it up, was wondering if there where any similar tweaks for ubuntu. cheers for the info
[20:49] <scguy318> bofh80: I guess run a lighter desktop, turn off unwanted daemons
[20:49] <x-X-x> pelo do i replace the space with "/" or do i put it before the space like/ this instead of/this ?
[20:49] <Fran> could you find anything helpful?
[20:49] <arnath> vicky_: iirc there are different solutions depending on the vendor
[20:49] <Galactic> the bottom frame has youtube.com.my
[20:49] <Pelo> x-X-x,  like/ this/ sentence
[20:49] <astro76> x-X-x, wrong slash, like\ this or "like this"
[20:50] <emmajane> galactic, have you checked your cookies yet?
[20:50] <arnath> vicky_: (for the vpn)
[20:50] <x-X-x> k
[20:50] <_mug> bofh80: check and tweak hdparm-settings and maybe use restrcted videocard-driver (if nvidia or ati)
[20:50] <thekillerplague1> DMESG | GREP TTYS jack
[20:50] <x-X-x> thnx astro76
[20:50] <Galactic> I cleared all my cookies
[20:50] <thekillerplague1> jack nothing came up
[20:50] <Pelo> x-X-x, anywya, one \ or /  you'll figure it out
[20:50] <Galactic> I did that clear private data thing
[20:50] <x-X-x> thnx pelo
[20:50] <emmajane> what happens if you go to YouTube via google? does it work?
[20:51] <Pelo> Galactic, what happnes when you launch from this link www.youtube.com ?
[20:51] <Voyage_> how do i configure gallery2 with fastcgi is there a howto
[20:51] <thekillerplague1> jack sparrow nothing came up when i typed dmesg | grep ttys in the terminal
[20:51] <arnath> Voyage_: how is that ubuntu-related? :|
[20:51] <emmajane> voyage_ I checked on google but it was all IIS stuff.
[20:51] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: It should have come up with something.  no serial ports is rather odd.
[20:51] <Pelo> Voyage_, try google, I have no idea what gallery2 is
[20:51] <emmajane> arnath ubuntu runs as a server.
[20:51] <thekillerplague1> well nothing came up
[20:51] <jlulian38> I get this very descriptive error with Cryptkeeper apparently, "Unable to start encfs, SOMETHING went wrong
[20:51] <jlulian38> D=
[20:51] <emmajane> pelo gallery2 is a web-based  system
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: I believe you, but that means it isnt a standard modem..  must be a soft/winmodem
[20:52] <ubuntu> hi all
[20:52] <emmajane> voyage_ Are you working with a specific ISP, or your own server?
[20:52] <arnath> emmajane: gallery2 is a php-based system no?
[20:52] <Galactic> whenever I launch from that link there it sends me to the very same place everytime
[20:52] <emmajane> arnath which could be sitting on a ubuntu server, yes. :)
[20:52] <thekillerplague1> all i know its a dell internal
[20:52] <thekillerplague1> i mean external
[20:52] <x-X-x> pelo , astro what if the name contains " ' " like david's ?
[20:52] <ubuntu> need a wet up help here
[20:52] <Galactic> should I open the log and pastebin it here for you guys to check out?
[20:53] <ubuntu> set*
[20:53] <thekillerplague1> since its dial up
[20:53] <Galactic> gksudo gedit /var/log/dpkg.log.1 is this the right one to check?
[20:53] <thekillerplague1> or would it be internal
[20:53] <astro76> Galactic, pastebin the output of 'nslookup youtube.com'
[20:53] <emmajane> galactic, have you tried quitting your browser to refresh teh state? Maybe you have a hidden frame?
[20:53] <Galactic> ok I did here it is again
[20:53] <Voyage_> emmajane own
[20:53] <Pelo> x-X-x, try the same  david/'s
[20:53] <x-X-x> k
[20:53] <Galactic> I have rebooted, I have done alot of things
[20:53] <Pelo> x-X-x, or thie other one \
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: Odd, most externals are true hardware..  Which is it.. external plugged into a serial port and has its own power supply or internal
[20:53] <emmajane> voyage_ apache 2 then, right?
[20:54] <Galactic> here is the pastebin of the nslookup http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50313/
[20:54] <Tortured> ive got gutsy on a macbook and every once in awhile, especially it seems like when firefox is running, im getting hard locks - cant do anything. Never had this problem on fiesty. wireless is running on madiwifi drivers. Where can I start to troubleshoot this?
[20:54] <thekillerplague1> im using dial up
[20:54] <thekillerplague1> not lan or dsl
[20:54] <thekillerplague1> lan/dsl
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: Dial up modem can be internal or external and only you will know
[20:54] <Pelo> !dailup # thekillerplague1
[20:54] <Volkodav> stephans>thanks
[20:54] <_mug> Galactic: nslookup is correct
[20:54] <astro76> Galactic, those IPs are correct, what happens when you type one of them in instead of youtube.com ?
[20:54] <scguy318> Tortured: I would examine dmesg | tail
[20:55] <Pelo> !dailup | thekillerplague1
[20:55] <thekillerplague1> yes pelo and i cant get gkdial to work
[20:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dailup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:55] <gean> pelo sorry: i installed successfully Kubuntu on a laptop. From the other one i'm chatting. Kubuntu has no recognized WLAN card. (The command iwconfig delivers for lo & for eth0 "no wireless extensions". ) What can i do now ? I have no infromation from the manufacturer - it was a discount laptop..
[20:55] <Pelo> thekillerplague1, nvm then
[20:55] <Voyage_> emmajane my mistake. isp
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> thekillerplague1: If an external does not work . it is usually a serial port that has been disabled in the bions/cmos
[20:55] <Galactic> what happens when I what?
[20:55] <scguy318> !wireless | gean
[20:55] <ubotu> gean: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:55] <scguy318> gean: I would try to identify the wireless chipset
[20:55] <Galactic> when I type what in instead of youtube sorry I dont follow?
[20:55] <truna> Tortured, just from experience, wifi i/o interrupts seems to cause a freeze
[20:55] <emmajane> voyage_ ahhh, check with your ISP for configuration information. They may have some better clues for you.
[20:55] <_mug> Galactic: 208.65.153.253 into browser
[20:55] <thekillerplague1> its internal
[20:55] <Galactic> lets find out
[20:55] <thekillerplague1> ok
[20:55] <scguy318> gean: do lspci to ID
[20:55] <Pelo> gean,  you can try and look up hte manufactureres website on and look up hte model for the hadware info
[20:56] <thekillerplague1> its a 6900 dell
[20:56] <emmajane> voyage_ there's nothing that I can find in the gallery2 docs that say it won't work...
[20:56] <Mazen> hi all .
[20:56] <Galactic> well that one you pasted here sends me to the right youtube website
[20:56] <Voyage_> emmajane ic..
[20:56] <Mazen> happy new yr to all
[20:56] <gean> pelo targa has a horrible information on older computers. google was all i had. no result until now.
[20:56] <Pelo> Galactic, either you have the wrong spelling on your bookmark or something else is going on
[20:56] <thekillerplague1> so no one can get me connect on ubuntu?
[20:56] <emmajane> voyage_ you may also get some luck from the gallery2 forums... they're usually pretty good.
[20:57] <Galactic> no no no its not the wrong bookmark
[20:57] <white_eagle> Mazen: nah, its 21:56 at me
[20:57] <Voyage_> emmajane can you find any howto?
[20:57] <_mug> Galactic: if it doesnt work if you type youtube.com into the browser u got a dns issue. pls look into /etc/hosts if there is something about youtube
[20:57] <Pelo> gean, try the lspci command that was recommended in the terminal that should at least identify the hardware for you
[20:57] <emmajane> voyage_ No, I didn't find any HOWTOs. You'll need to do some searching yourself, I think.
[20:57] <Galactic> I try looking it up in google I use googles links I even use googles link from its homepage to get there and it sends me to that messed up website
[20:57] <Mazen> need a setup here if any can?
[20:57] <Voyage_> emmajane which ones?
[20:57] <Mazen> help*
[20:57] <emmajane> voyage_ which one what?
[20:58] <Pelo> Mazen,  we need specific questions
[20:58] <x-X-x> pelo : cp: omitting directory
[20:58] <white_eagle> yahoo! vs. live search
[20:58] <Voyage_> emmajane which forums?
[20:58] <astro76> Galactic, of course the google link will be the same as typing it in, try _mug's suggestion
[20:58] <gean> scguy318 i would be happy also with LAN. lspci (thanks!) delivers: Ethernet Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modwem Controller (rev 20) It is what i'm searching for ?
[20:58] <earthling> white_eagle,Mazen is from a different timezone.... most of us are. :)
[20:58] <Pelo> x-X-x, the other \ / then
[20:58] <emmajane> voyage_ http://gallery.menalto.com/forum
[20:58] <thekillerplague1> can anyone get me connect on ubuntu with dial up
[20:58] <Pelo> x-X-x, consider renameing the dir
[20:58] <astro76> !dialup | thekillerplague1
[20:58] <ubotu> thekillerplague1: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[20:58] <emmajane> thekillerplague1 do you know for sure that your modem speaks linux and that it's not a win modem?
[20:59] <jlulian38> Are there any like encryption tools that will let me read from the encrypted...thing like it was just another folder?
[20:59] <Pelo> x-X-x, or if you have a bunch of files ith chararcters liek that in them use rename from thunar to batch rename them
[20:59] <x-X-x> pelo does thsat mean i will always have to rename the dir if it contains " ' " ??
[20:59] <gean> scguy318 sorry: lspci (thanks!) delivers: Ethernet Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 (Rhine II) (rev 51) Sorry. It is what i'm searching for ?
[20:59] <Mazen> ok matey ... i've set up the system but cannot boot ... it gives me boot error
[20:59] <Pelo> x-X-x, if you want to do command line stuff to them , I would say yes
[20:59] <Galactic> ok want me to paste what mugs suggestion was here?
[20:59] <_mug> yap on that paste-site you used before
[20:59] <astro76> Galactic, sure pastebinit
[20:59] <Mazen> should i mount a specific mount command?
[21:00] <x-X-x> is there another way to copy and paste a dir into a wirte protected dir without using command line then ???
[21:00] <x-X-x> write*
[21:00] <xobius> Galatic: what browser are you using?
[21:00] <Pelo> x-X-x, basicaly  the unix structure does not use spaces like windows does  , so command line stuff uses spaces as seperators in commands
[21:00] <Voyage_> emmajane thx
[21:00] <Pelo> x-X-x, gksu nautilu
[21:00] <Pelo> x-X-x, gksu nautilus
[21:00] <emmajane> voyage_ g'luck!! :)
[21:00] <yuan> hi
[21:00] <scguy318> gean: I think that's for your...Ethernet?
[21:01] <yuan> i have a question
[21:01] <earthling> Mazen: please be specific with your question...
[21:01] <Pelo> !ask | yuan
[21:01] <ubotu> yuan: Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:01] <scguy318> gean: I could be wrong but that's my impression of that particular line, any mention of Atheros, Broadcom?
[21:01] <yuan> how to remove the app that i compile form the cvs
[21:01] <_mug> astro76 and Galactic & any1: if this gets uglier maybe we change to another chan temporarily to solve this.. my eyes arent very good chan-parsers :P
[21:01] <Pelo> Mazen, what is the boot error you get ?
[21:01] <x-X-x> gksu nautilus ? how do i install it?
[21:01] <yuan> i get emacs 23 from cvs, and compile it ,but i do not know how to remove it ...
[21:02] <Pelo> yuan,  I think you have to delete the files and folders manualy
[21:02] <scguy318> x-X-x: you don't
[21:02] <astro76> x-X-x, it's a command, run it from alt+f2 or a terminal
[21:02] <gean> scguy318 well the line is :      00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, etc. The only entry (line 12 out of 13) that sounds like lan.. I' m searching now some long list of Wlan cards...
[21:02] <emmajane> yuan, is it all contained in one directory?
[21:02] <scguy318> gean: any Windows drivers that came with your machine for wireless?
[21:02]  * Dr_willis cringes at the idea of running GUI filemanagers as root.
[21:02] <Mazen> not sure matey ... i forgot it ..... i'll reboot now to make sure about the error code  ... ok pelo?
[21:02]  * Pelo hands Dr_willis a stiff drink 
[21:02] <Pelo> Mazen, it would help
[21:03]  * tribaldata says time to go home catch you guys really soon :)
[21:03] <yuan> emmajane:  en , but after i compile it , seem that there is a file name emacs in bin folder
[21:03] <Pelo> tribaldata, happy shoveling
[21:03] <Mazen> coming in a while ... brb
[21:03] <yuan> emmajane:  so i just remove it too?
[21:03] <emmajane> yuan, in /usr/bin ? or /usr/local/bin?
[21:03] <x-X-x> astro76 thnx so much i should have done this in the first place btw is it safe to use gksu nautilus all the time to paste into write protected folders ?
[21:03] <emmajane> yuan, is it an actual file, or just a link to the program binaries?
[21:04] <yuan> emmajane:  it should be the link
[21:04] <tribaldata> Pelo: cheers same to you :)
[21:04] <guytech>  hello
[21:04] <guytech>  i have a big problem my ISP block Voip on the network
[21:04] <guytech>  inorder for me to get Voip on the system i have to use vpn
[21:04] <guytech>  question
[21:04] <guytech>  how do i set up a vpn on ubuntu
[21:04] <astro76> x-X-x, you should not leave it open longer than necessary, close it as soon as you are done
[21:04] <guytech>  what i do know is that a softphone iaxlite work grate on my ISP service
[21:04] <guytech>  and that the have block SIP traffic
[21:04] <guytech>  i have look up on iaxlite and find that it a asterisk base softphone
[21:04] <guytech>  is the anyway ican run asterisk on my system and have it convert all my sip and other internet traffic t
[21:04] <guytech>  can you please help or advice me
[21:04] <Pelo> x-X-x, you generaly don'T want to run anything as root unless you have to , running nautilus as root is no worse then any other app
[21:04] <astro76> guytech, one line please next time
[21:04] <Pelo> guytech, you are this close to getting banned
[21:04] <emmajane> yuan, so you need to update that link to point to the older version of emacs, is that right?
[21:05] <x-X-x> k thnx astro76 and pelo
[21:05] <yuan> emmajane:  i remove all the file download form cvs
[21:05] <guytech> sorry
[21:05] <Pelo> guytech,  just use a proxy
[21:05] <emmajane> yuan, do you want emacs installed at all?
[21:05] <Volkodav> is there linux uvcvideo package?
[21:05] <yuan> emmajane:  but now i type emacs in my terminal ,i t still run a emacs
[21:05] <gean> scguy318 no (idea), "unffortunately" i deleted the Win  partition (40 GB = all place) the day i bought the box. (Needed space.) Ubuntu 5.10 alternate did the install job at that time with NO problems..
[21:05] <Pelo> Volkodav, check in synaptic
[21:05] <Sonja> how do i mass-rename all files in a folder such, that I add a _ after the filename, e.g. picture.jpg to picture_.jpg
[21:06] <emmajane> yuan try this: in a terminal type: whereis emacs
[21:06] <guytech> sorry i am new user of your service
[21:06] <scguy318> gean: oh ok, can you tell me what model is your lappy?
[21:06] <Dr_willis> Sonja,  with a script/xargs/find - or perhaps the 'rename' command can do wha tyou need
[21:06] <Pelo> Sonja, try using the block renaming applet from thunar, search for rename in add/remove
[21:06] <scguy318> gean: or pastebin what you got from lspci?
[21:06] <yuan> emmajane:emacs: /usr/bin/emacs /etc/emacs /usr/libexec/emacs /usr/share/emacs /usr/share/man/man1/emacs.1
[21:06] <Dr_willis> Or some other tools. :)
[21:06] <Sonja> what is the exact command though?
[21:06] <thekillerplague1> can anyone get me a dial up connection?
[21:06] <yuan> emmajane:  so now , how to remove the emacs ?
[21:06] <scguy318> gean: 5.10? wow, that's a long time ago :)
[21:06] <emmajane> yuan, those are the places where files related to emacs exist....
[21:06] <Pelo> Dr_willis, realy you need to check out that thunar renaming thing , it is awesome
[21:06] <Voyage_> emmajane sory (i was asking for someone else's problem. my couzin) now i know all the facks. its his own server
[21:06] <gean> scguy318 i need only lan, in fact. Can avm-fritz-firmware help me ?
[21:07] <Sonja> thunar eh!
[21:07] <emmajane> yuan, do you want to remove ALL emacs, or just the CVS version?
[21:07] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  i tend to use 'qmv' for my fancy renaming needs. :)
[21:07] <Toaster`> Volkodav: No, but the cvs version of uvcvideo is pretty simple to use
[21:07] <Dr_willis> !find qmv
[21:07] <Pelo> Sonja, check in menu > applicatiosn > add/remove , search for rename
[21:07] <ubotu> File qmv found in renameutils
[21:07] <yuan> emmajane: all, actually i only have one version from CVS
[21:07] <emmajane> voyage_ cool. :) I still can't help much beyond pointing you to the gallery2 forum ... hopefully you get it figured out though!
[21:07] <Pelo> !rename
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <Sonja> so thunar will replace nautilus?
[21:08]  * Pelo beats ubotu to within an inch of its sorry artificial life 
[21:08] <emmajane> yuan, personally? i'd just leave the files there if you don't want to use emacs at all. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem?
[21:08] <Galactic> Im using firefox
[21:08] <scguy318> gean: I think not, its for ISDN cards
[21:08] <Pelo> Sonja, it wont, replace nautilus,  but it is also a file manager yes
[21:08] <scguy318> gean: you probably should take a shot at ndiswrapper for your networking needs
[21:08] <crdlb> Sonja: thunar is xfce's file manager
[21:08] <Volkodav> Toaster`- mind to link or do I need another repo?
[21:08] <Sonja> ok
[21:08] <Voyage_> emmajane sure.. thx and sorry again
[21:09] <Pelo> guytech, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[21:09] <emmajane> voyage_ no worries. :)
[21:09] <Abyssal> hi is there a tool like eraser in windows that ensures in ubuntu that my data is erased safely?
[21:09] <yuan> emmajane:  i mean that now i have a emacs which could run in my linux, but i just want to remove it
[21:09] <scguy318> Abyssal: erase I think
[21:09] <_mug> what irc-client are you using? x-chat?
[21:09] <Toaster`> Volkodav: http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux+UVC
[21:09] <_mug> galactic ^^
[21:09] <yuan> emmajane: the trouble thing is i install in the way of cvs
[21:10] <Sonja> should i consider using thunar instead of nautilus?
[21:10] <scguy318> Abyssal: my mistake, its shred
[21:10] <emmajane> yuan, sometimes ther'es an uninstall script, but it sounds like you've already deleted all of the files?
[21:10] <Toaster`> Volkodav: No repo that I've found.
[21:10] <yuan> emmajane:  yes,....
[21:10] <Volkodav> ok thanks
[21:10] <Abyssal> scguy318: is it in the repository?
[21:10] <Galactic> here's my hosts file 127.0.0.1	localhost
[21:10] <Galactic> 127.0.1.1	unknown
[21:10] <Galactic> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[21:10] <Galactic> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[21:10] <Galactic> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[21:10] <Galactic> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[21:10] <Pelo> Sonja, no,  thunar has nice feature sbut nautilus is richer in my opinion,  I just like the rename tool , you can have boot with no issue
[21:10] <Galactic> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[21:10] <Galactic> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[21:10] <emmajane> yuan, probably you can also just delete the file that's in /usr/bin/emacs
[21:10] <Galactic> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[21:10] <Galactic> sorry pastebin kicked me
[21:10] <scguy318> Abyssal: yeah, should be pre-installed if I'm not mistaken
[21:10] <Galactic> I wont post that here again
[21:10] <gean> scguy318 yes, i could somehow upgrade to 6.0, but some packages were broken. Was time for a new era. (I try KDE this time.) The soft packages are what i'm interested in. All math, perl, gcc, python, tex MUST come this year on the box. (And this is Germany, not much time left). By the way: A good new year 2008 to the whole /chat room! The best and else only good stuff in 2008!
[21:11] <yuan> emmajane: ok , i take a try
[21:11] <earthling> if i want to download a few packages from ubuntu repositories and try to write them on a cd......... so that the cd can act as a mini repository... how can that be done?
[21:11] <Mazen> back
[21:11] <Abyssal> scguy318: and it can also delete with gutmann, us method etc.?
[21:11] <Pelo> !aptoncd > earthling
[21:11] <_mug> Galactic: looks good
[21:11] <_mug> Galactic: strange..
[21:12] <Galactic> ok so my broswer is hijacked possibly?
[21:12] <Duo_Maxwell> br
[21:12] <alexbOrsova> I'm sorry for posting something this big here, but does anyone know what this means? "Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"
[21:12] <Galactic> should I try to paste bin my system log?
[21:12] <Abyssal> scguy318: shred is not in the repository.
[21:12] <Mazen> hi pelo ... the error code is 17
[21:12] <_mug> Galactic: yup. dont panic.. yet look into .. sec
[21:12] <scguy318> Abyssal: well, type man shred and see if it's installed
[21:12] <Pelo> Galactic, if the link from here opened properly, it is unlikely that the browser got highjacked,  check your spelling , check your bookmark,s spelling
[21:12] <Galactic> pastebin said I was spamming for some dumb reason
[21:13] <Mazen> after loading GRUB STAGE 1.5
[21:13] <emmajane> yuan, by default ubuntu has emacs-related files in the following directories (even when emacs is not installed): emacs: /etc/emacs /usr/share/emacs
[21:13] <_mug> Galactic: tools->addons
[21:13] <scguy318> Abyssal: yeah, you can specify number of iterations I think
[21:13] <Pelo> Mazen, ok , your grub menu.lst entry is not pointing to the correct partition for loccating the ubuntu kernel,   you will need to fix that
[21:13] <scguy318> Abyssal: though a Gutmann pass is a bit silly today :P
[21:13] <Galactic> pelo the link from here www.youtube.com didnt open properly at all, the 205.234.35.5.3 opened properly
[21:13] <pdlnhrd> can someone help with dual displays in 7.10?   when trying to configure the resolutions the screens are bigger than my actual monitor where i have to scroll to the top and bottom to see stuff?  i can't get any resolution combination to work correct
[21:13] <yuan> emmajane: i find the files in  /usr/libexec/emacs/
[21:13] <Abyssal> scguy318: oh sorry. it is a shell command?
[21:13] <yuan> emmajane:  thank you very much ...
[21:13] <Abyssal> scguy318: i thought a window application
[21:13] <Mazen> which command should i go for?
[21:14] <yuan> emmajane:  i just remove all of them
[21:14] <thekillerplague1> hi
[21:14] <Galactic> tools addons?
[21:14] <thekillerplague1> who can help with getting gkdial to work
[21:14] <scguy318> Abyssal: yes
[21:14] <Pelo> Mazen,  whne you get to the boot menu,  select the correct menu entry and hit e for edit , then select the root line and hit e for edit,  then change the root (hd0,0) line to reflect where the kernel is located,
[21:14] <scguy318> Abyssal: there probably are other tools, but that's the one I have off the top of my head
[21:14] <emmajane> yuan, assuming you don't want emacs to run at all under any version or any previously installed version, yes... delete files that are not in the directories I pasted.
[21:14] <Galactic> says ubufox 0.4 beta
[21:14] <Pelo> Mazen,  what is the /dev/sd** of the partition where ubuntu is ?
[21:14] <Abyssal> scguy318: ok thanks. how to get out of that manual?
[21:15] <Voyage_> iam the only user on ubuntu. am i the root?
[21:15] <yuan> emmajane:  en , and i will try to install emacs from ubuntu's deb.
[21:15] <emmajane> voyage_ no. generally there is a regular user set up as well.
[21:15] <Mazen> 1 moment .. i'll get it
[21:15] <yuan> emmajane:  thank you
[21:15] <emmajane> yuan, once you have deleted everything, yes you can try.
[21:15] <Galactic> the only add on is that ubufox beta1
[21:15] <emmajane> you might also be able to install the package overtop of the CVS version.
[21:15] <thekillerplague1> Can anyone please help me gkdial?
[21:16] <Voyage_> emmajane what do you mean. am i a regular user
[21:16] <_mug> alexbOrsova: what did you try? ssl-stuff?
[21:16] <Pelo> Voyage_, you are the root but you are not running as root, there is no actual root in ubuntu, you are running as a user with priviledge,  so long as you put sudo before the commands you need to run as root
[21:16] <emmajane> voyage_ a non-privileged user.
[21:16] <alexbOrsova> _mug: no, I tried running an installer for a touch screen driver
[21:16] <_mug> Galactic: kick it
[21:16] <emmajane> voyage_ at the command line type: whoami
[21:16] <pdlnhrd> can anyone help with resolution issues?
[21:16] <Pelo> !root > Voyage_  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[21:16] <Abyssal> scguy318: ok thanks. 1. how to get out of that manual? 2. and why is gutmann silly?
[21:16] <_mug> AlexEasta: sorry cant help
[21:16] <Pelo> pdlnhrd, we need specific questions
[21:16] <alexbOrsova> _mug: TouchKit64 from eeti.com
[21:16] <ompaul> !resolution | pdlnhrd
[21:16] <ubotu> pdlnhrd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:16] <Pelo> Abyssal, hit Q
[21:17] <scguy318> Abyssal: q
[21:17] <pdlnhrd> Pelo: my resolution is bigger than my monitor and i have to scroll to get to the top and bottom of the screens
[21:17] <Galactic> nope its still sending me to that stupid website
[21:17] <scguy318> Abyssal: and Gutmann's 35 passes were intended for a magnetic recording technology not used in today's hard drives
[21:17] <TurboBee> hey
[21:17] <Abyssal> Pelo: scguy318: thank you.
[21:17] <Voyage_> Pelo emmajane sorry i didnt got it. any more detail that i can read?
[21:17] <Pelo> pdlnhrd, sounds to me like your monitor is not recognised properly but I donT' know much about that sorry
[21:17] <AlexEasta> Can someone help me out with http://i19.tinypic.com/8af002g.jpg i dont know how to fix it ( the start splash screen with boot: is viewable perfectly but then it turns to that)
[21:18] <Pelo> !root | Voyage_
[21:18] <ubotu> Voyage_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:18] <Galactic> how do you check what youve installed in the past day?
[21:18] <TurboBee> what file do i need to edit to change eth1 back to eth0
[21:18] <TurboBee> hardware change
[21:18] <scguy318> Abyssal: a few DoD passes are more than enough to wipe data, but I guess if you want to do 35, go ahead
[21:18] <emmajane> galactic, I believe the text-based browser is installed by default. At the command line try typing: lynx www.youtube.com
[21:18] <Abyssal> scguy318: will those harddrives be used in the future? or what was it developed for?
[21:18] <emmajane> voyage_ What do you need more detail on?
[21:18] <TigranG> Galactic: use history in Synaptic
[21:19] <Voyage_> Pelo my log name is log1 .  i see the pwd i gave for this is the same as roots pwd.  (untill i use sudo, am i the root)
[21:19] <Voyage_> ?
[21:19] <Galactic> dont have lynx sorry
[21:19] <Voyage_> emmajane my log name is log1 .  i see the pwd i gave for this is the same as roots pwd.  (untill i use sudo, am i the root)?
[21:19] <scguy318> Abyssal: Gutmann's paper was for the hard drives of the day
[21:19] <Pelo> Voyage_, you donT, become root,  you jsut get root access for that command
[21:19] <Pelo> vicky_, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[21:19] <scguy318> Abyssal: the recording technology is simply not used today
[21:19] <Mazen> pelo, Device:  /dev/sdc1, Mount point: /media/sdc1
[21:20] <scguy318> Abyssal: you'll have to read it, I'm just remember from recall
[21:20] <emmajane> voyage_ it's irrelevant that the passwords are the same. You are not root until you are root. :)
[21:20] <Abyssal> scguy318: ok thats enough information. but nice to know.
[21:20] <Pelo> Mazen, ok change the root line to root (hd2,0)  that should work,   that change will not be permannet, you'll need to make it permanentn by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst once you get back in ubuntu
[21:20] <Galactic> I installed netapplet
[21:20] <Galactic> would that have been the cause?
[21:21] <AlexEasta> so can anyone help me with http://i19.tinypic.com/8af002g.jpg as my screen problem ?
[21:21] <Mazen> ok ... i'll do now
[21:21] <choudesh> AlexEasta, horizontal refresh rate is wrong.
[21:21] <vicky_> arnath are you there
[21:21] <Voyage_> Pelo emmajane ic.. but its a fact that any one can use sudo. if he knows the pwd of root.. right?
[21:21] <alexbOrsova> AlexEasta: are you on a laptop?
[21:21] <AlexEasta> desktop
[21:21] <AlexEasta> and i have tried multiple screens
[21:21] <emmajane> voyage_ I think you need to be in the sudo group as well.
[21:21] <astro76> Voyage_, nope, if they are in the admin group
[21:21] <Pelo> AlexEasta, look at the refresh rate at the back of your monitor and edit the horz sync line in xorg.conf to match
[21:21] <Galactic> should I just run clam antivirus?
[21:22] <AlexEasta> is there a command to change it ?
[21:22] <emmajane> voyage_ type: groups at the command line
[21:22] <Mazen> should i keep the format type as  ext3?
[21:22] <astro76> Voyage_, root password has nothing to do with sudo
[21:22] <Galactic> is there a good rootkit scanner?
[21:22] <Pelo> Mazen, what are you edigint ?
[21:22] <_mug> Galactic: chkrootkit, rkhunter
[21:22] <Pelo> Mazen, donT' mess with anything else please , just fix the grub menu line for now
[21:22] <Pelo> Galactic, rkhunter
[21:22] <Mazen> ok
[21:22] <vicky_> Pelo
[21:22] <choudesh> AlexEasta, press ctrl+alt+f1 to go to terminal - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[21:23] <choudesh> AlexEasta, reather, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:23] <Pelo> vicky_, ?
[21:23] <vicky_> you help me set up a vpn
[21:23] <Abyssal> happy new year! bye
[21:23] <Pelo> vicky_,  I didn'T not, I donT, knwo wnything about vpm
[21:23] <NemesisD> hi all, i'm trying to fix a computer that has no internet connection via ssh (via a computer on the same network w/ an internet connection), the ubuntu machine w/ no internet connectivity has connectivity on the network, kern.log is saying no ipv6 routers present
[21:23] <Galactic> how do I install those rootkits scanners?
[21:24] <Pelo> Galactic, sudo apt-get install rkunter chkrootkit
[21:24] <_mug> Galactic: apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit
[21:24] <choudesh> nemsisD, pastebin the output `route -n`
[21:24] <vicky_> what about asterisk
[21:24] <elda> Quick question... how do I do the safe eject thing for a jump drive?
[21:24] <NemesisD> choudesh, k hold
[21:24] <astro76> Galactic, you should try lynx first as someone suggested
[21:24] <crush_groove> whats command to start clam ?
[21:24] <choudesh> elda, right click on the icon in gnome
[21:24] <Galactic> ok how do I install lynx?
[21:24] <crush_groove> ./*
[21:24] <Pelo> elda, right click the icon on the desktyop and eject or unmount
[21:24] <elda> would it be the unmount option?
[21:24] <crush_groove> !clam
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <emmajane> galactic: from the command line: sudo apt-get install lynx
[21:24] <astro76> Galactic, if you type lynx at a terminal, the error message will tell you how to install it
[21:24] <elda> Okey just making sure thats the rightone
[21:24] <Pelo> Galactic, sudo apt-get install lynx
[21:25] <choudesh> Galactic, apt-get install lynx-cur
[21:25] <Pelo> crush_groove, try with clamav or clamtk
[21:25] <NemesisD> choudesh, http://pastebin.ca/840438
[21:25] <choudesh> Galactic, or apt-get install lynx ... cur is with NLS support
[21:25] <Mazen> wt's next pelo?
[21:25] <Pelo> crush_groove, clamtk is the one with the gui
[21:25] <Galactic> says those packages cannot be authenticated
[21:25] <Galactic> should I proceed?
[21:25] <Pelo> Mazen,  did you boot back properly ?
[21:25] <Voyage_> astro76 when i sudo. that makes me root? dont i have to give the roots pwd in sudo command ?
[21:26] <astro76> Voyage_, no the whole point of sudo is that it uses the user's pasword
[21:26] <Mazen> i'll do ... back to u shortly
[21:26] <_mug> Galactic: are you familiar with irc-usage? chans/query etc?
[21:26] <Dr_willis> direct logging in as root is disabled. since root has no password.
[21:26] <Pelo> sigh
[21:26] <choudesh> NemesisD, can the machine ping 64.233.187.99 ?
[21:26] <crush_groove> sudo gives you 90% root privs .. su is root\
[21:26] <astro76> Voyage_, by default in Ubuntu there is not root password making direct root logins disabled
[21:26] <Galactic> Im kind of new to this
[21:26] <astro76> crush_groove, sudo will make you 100% root
[21:26] <NemesisD> choudesh, oddly enough, yes...
[21:26] <Mazen> thx matey for ur help and wish u a happy new yr
[21:26] <Galactic> I havent used irc that much at all
[21:26] <Pelo> Galactic, we figured as much
[21:27] <Galactic> lol
[21:27] <choudesh> NemesisD, then your issue is your DNS
[21:27] <_mug> Galactic: which irc-client do you use?
[21:27] <Galactic> that bad eh
 it says cant find kernel image sudo. the problem is when i am trying to install it
[21:27] <VladimirMelo> hello, do you know if video card s3g unichrome works fine on ubuntu?
[21:27] <crush_groove> astron I have tryed to do some commands thru 'sudo' and it tells me I need root
[21:27] <Voyage_> astro76  you mean theres no root pwd ?
[21:27] <VladimirMelo> cia
[21:27] <Galactic> Im using xchat right now
[21:27] <NemesisD> choudesh, hmm, ok so what should i do now?
[21:27] <Mazen> i'll back to u if there's any problem
[21:27] <VladimirMelo> via
[21:27] <Zarx> i've spent the past few hours trying to get wireless set up in this laptop, and I think I might finally have it... but I no longer see the wireless network icon in the taskbar that I saw when I initially installed ubuntu. How can I get that back?
[21:27] <Galactic> ok lynx is installed
[21:27] <astro76> Voyage_, correct
[21:27] <Pelo> Galactic, chances are you are uing xchat-gnome right now, which is not quite the same
[21:27] <choudesh> NemesisD, do you have nm-applet install? network manager applet in the top right of gnome
[21:27] <Voyage_> astro76 then what is root
[21:27] <_mug> Pelo: i think Galactic's issue is serious if he only installed an ubuntu-packet
[21:28] <VladimirMelo> I'd like to run 3d desktop
[21:28] <choudesh> AlexEasta, pastebin output
[21:28] <Galactic> Im not using the ugly gnome one
[21:28] <emmajane> galactic: at teh command line type: lynx www.youtube.com
[21:28] <VladimirMelo> and dont know if this card works fine
[21:28] <NemesisD> choudesh, interestingly enough, I think it is installed but it is missing, i know it should show up in the notification area applet but it isn't there :/
[21:28] <astro76> Voyage_, did you read the RootSudo page? root is root, by default in Ubuntu you can only use sudo to get root privileges, not su
[21:28] <emmajane> galatic, that will confirm if the problem is with firefox or your internet connection.
[21:28] <killkernel> hi all, happy new year !!!!!
[21:28] <Galactic> I did and it says something like FRAME: http://www.atomictime.net/ubi.html?3673084.lbhghoGW
[21:28] <Galactic>    FRAME: http://searchnut.com/?domain=youtube.com.my
[21:28] <Galactic>    No frames? No problem!
[21:28] <Galactic>    Click here.
[21:28] <astro76> crush_groove, sudo -i would give you a root terminal
[21:28] <Pelo> _mug, I lost track of Galactic 's issue quite frankly,  I'm realy not convinced firefox got highjakedc
[21:28] <Voyage_> astro76 root login can be made too. you just have to edit some confg files.
[21:29] <Galactic> lynx has the same problem
[21:29] <choudesh> NemesisD, no biggie. that will be the next issue. ;-) edit /etc/resolv.conf with your DNS servers
[21:29] <astro76> Voyage_, I said by default in Ubuntu!
[21:29] <AlexEasta> i cant i am trying to install ubuntu from the disk onto a spare pc, so i put the disk in and then the ubuntu cd splash screen with boot: comes up and i push return and then it goes all jagged-ey
[21:29] <_mug> Pelo: no hosts-issue, nslookup is correct, no malicious addons.. what else?
[21:29] <AlexEasta> its a fresh install
[21:29] <astro76> Voyage_, you just have to set a password, but there is no reason and it's not recommended
[21:29] <choudesh> !abuse astro76 Voyage_
[21:29] <Pelo> Galactic,  do you see the bit whre you got redirected to youtube.com.my ?  instead of youtube.com ?  can you try with the full url instead http:\\www.youtube.com
[21:29] <NemesisD> god i love gnu screen
[21:29] <vicky_> is the some where i can go to get some help (I am a new user)
[21:29] <astro76> choudesh, is there a problem?
[21:29] <Voyage_> astro76 so iam privileged equal to root. and if i make  a new user. he can be unprivilged in some cases ?
[21:30] <astro76> Voyage_, new users are by default *not* in the admin group
[21:30] <genii> vicky_: This is the place, just ask your question
[21:30] <emmajane> vicky_ you have to tell us what you need help with :)
[21:30] <crush_groove> astro76 . I am using ubuntu7.10 and I am 100% positive I can type su and pw and get root.. I am NOT argueing it . Im just confused by what you are saying .. I have 1 pw for su and another pw for sudo.
[21:30] <choudesh> astro76, ubot should have said about volunteers and not screaming (!). ;-) but ... yea..ubot, blah.
[21:30] <squarebracket> i want to mount a remote drive, and i don't need encryption of the data over the internet, any suggestions? i get a pretty slow bitrate sshfs'ing the drive, and i'd like something faster
[21:30] <vicky_> vpn
[21:30] <Voyage_> choudesh what was that?
[21:30] <Galactic> this is what I typed in lynx www.youtube.com and you want me to type this in "lynx http://www.youtube.com"
[21:30] <vicky_> how to set up a vpn
[21:30] <astro76> choudesh, so you !abused me because I used an exlclamation point?
[21:30] <daddy_fizz> could anyone assist me with a persistent install question
[21:30] <NemesisD> choudesh, i found a disrepancy between a working resolv.conf on another machine and this one, do i need to restart networking for the change to take effect or summat?
[21:30] <astro76> choudesh, leave me alone
[21:30] <emmajane> vicky_ what do you need to vpn into?
[21:31] <Voyage_> astro76 iam the first user. am i in the admin group?
[21:31] <astro76> Voyage_, yes
[21:31] <Pelo> Galactic, I actualy want you to type that in firefox
[21:31] <scguy318> Voyage_: yes, and thus you are permitted to use sudo
[21:31] <Pelo> Galactic, actualy , ignore me
[21:31] <Guest10> Quick question
[21:31] <choudesh> astro76, no, not abuse as you think. it is just the trigger for volunteer info and not yelling. there is another trigger for it - but I am not on my desktop atm.
[21:31] <tacone> !ask | all
[21:31] <Pelo> Guest10, there is no such thing
[21:31] <astro76> crush_groove, yes you can do what you want, we are talking about Ubuntu's defaults and what is supported and recommended
[21:31] <choudesh> NemesisD, always a good idea.
[21:32] <tacone> !ask
[21:32] <Galactic> ok so hmmmmmm
[21:32] <emmajane> voyage_ at the command line, type: groups
[21:32] <ubotu> all: Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:32] <astro76> choudesh, yelling is caps, and I'm the volunteer here
[21:32] <emmajane> voyage_ it will tell you what groups your'e in.
[21:32] <Voyage_> scguy318 astro76 ic..  and other wont be able to use sudo or install apps .etc.           what is the name of admin group?
[21:32] <NemesisD> choudesh, you are brilliant, thank you!!
[21:32] <astro76> Voyage_, admin ;)
[21:32] <Voyage_> emmajane ic
[21:32] <Galactic> this is really odd, I havent even done much yet with ubuntu to have something like this happen
[21:32] <choudesh> astro76, I understand. Just try not to use (!). PM please.
[21:32] <Voyage_> astro76 ic.
[21:32] <JymmmEMC> Is anyone running ubuntu server and have issues of lockups with sshd at random by chance?
[21:32]  * Pelo gets blinded by choudesh 's briliance 
[21:32] <ompaul> !supportroot | crush_groove (perhaps this explains it better)
[21:32] <ubotu> crush_groove (perhaps this explains it better): We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[21:33] <choudesh> NemesisD, thank the channel. We are all here to help.
[21:33] <Galactic> frankly this is fascinating, possibly a new exploit?
[21:33] <ffm> How hard is it to install ubuntu on a USB drive?
[21:33] <NemesisD> thank you #ubuntu!
[21:33] <astro76> choudesh, I'll keep that in mind!
[21:33] <crush_groove> ompaul . my point is being missed.
[21:33] <daddy_fizz> here is my problem:  I got a USB persistent install working, but i previously used two boot disks (bartpe & dos) from the same usb stick.  Now when I try to boot into those using grub.exe they both run super slow...
[21:33] <Pelo> !install > ffm check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[21:33] <choudesh> astro76, ;-)
[21:33] <AlexEasta> so how do i fix this display problem ?
[21:33] <crush_groove>  I sit to learn . I dont recommendanything
[21:33] <ompaul> crush_groove, we get your point, do you get ours?
[21:33] <choudesh> ffm, not very. Are you install to the USB or want to install from USB?
[21:33] <Pelo> AlexEasta, I told you how earlier and several other ppl have suggested alternate methods
[21:34] <Galactic> the rootkit scanners failed to download
[21:34] <vicky_> emmajane can i tell you my problem
[21:34] <crush_groove> no ompaul .. you dont . and yes I do
[21:34] <Voyage_> astro76 emmajane scguy318 i want to make my partitions only be writable/deletable to root. (by sudo as you say) otherwise to all other users it should be readonly. how can i do it?
[21:34] <Galactic> is there something else I could try?
[21:34] <ffm> choudesh: to USB
[21:34] <Pelo> AlexEasta, look at the refresh rate at the back of your monitor and edit the horz sync line in xorg.conf to match
[21:34] <emmajane> voyage_ from teh root folder: change the permissions and the ownership for the directory
[21:34] <_mug> Galactic: check your ~/.ssh/for something odd
[21:34] <astro76> Voyage_, if you make a partition by default that will be the case unless you change permissions
[21:34] <daddy_fizz> is there any way to boot a usb persistent install from grub4dos? would be one possible solution...
[21:34] <emmajane> voyage_ remove "write" access for anything except root.
[21:34] <_mug> Galactic: check your ~/.ssh/ for something odd
[21:34] <crush_groove> !ot
[21:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:34] <emmajane> vicky_ what is your problem?
[21:35] <AlexEasta> how do i edit that value i am totally new to this ?
[21:35] <choudesh> ffm, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install/
[21:35] <Voyage_> emma astro76 how exactly to do that?
[21:35]  * Voyage_ is using dolphin
[21:35] <emmajane> alexeasta, the configuration file is a text-based file.
[21:36] <vicky_> i need to know how to set up a remote access vpn or how to use asterisk to convert all my internet traffic
[21:36] <emmajane> alexeasta, you will need to edit that file.
[21:36] <AlexEasta> so i extract the iso for the install to my desktop then compile it back into a iso ?
[21:36] <daddy_fizz> :(
[21:36] <emmajane> vicky_ is this into a work server?
[21:36] <vicky_> yes
[21:36] <alexbOrsova> I'm trying to run a configuration app for my touch screen and I'm getting this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4048249 What's wrong?
[21:36] <Pelo> AlexEasta, boot the revovery mode, and type  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf that will let you edit the file, look for the  horiz sync line, that's the one you need to change,  make sure it matches the value in your monitor's manual or on the lable at the back of the monitor,  the H value on the lable usualy,  if you only have one on the back or the manula,  use it as the top one
[21:36] <emmajane> alexeasta, nothing that complicated. :) Just a second and I'll get the path of the file.
[21:37] <Galactic> my .ssh is empty
[21:37] <emmajane> vicky_ have you tried asking the system administrators? sometimes there are wonky things that make things not work as expected.
[21:37] <AlexEasta> brilliant, thank you so much i am going to go and try this now ( thanks so much! )
[21:37] <choudesh> alexbOrsova, open a terminal, type `xhost +` then try again to load your app
[21:38] <Pelo> ATTENTION EVERYONE would you all please use the nick of the person you are talking to in each line,  it makes it easier to keep track
[21:38] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: this is what I get: access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[21:38] <_mug> Galactic: sorry crap again i thougt the keys for apt where stored in .ssh. my fault
[21:38] <Voyage_> emma astro76 editing permissions in properties do not work for me. it gives some error.
[21:38] <vicky_> ok is can you give me site i can get the info i need
[21:38] <alfermp> how can i transfer my post from wordpress to drupal? Thank you
[21:38] <choudesh> alexbOrsova, ok - now try to load your app again - then one tht was giving you errors
[21:38]  * Pelo glares at vicky_ 
[21:39] <Galactic> damm I never expected this from ubuntu
[21:39] <AgentHeX> how do i begin a process on startup (add to /etc/init.d/ and then what?)
[21:39] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: and i get the same error (I've tried this before after doing a google search)
[21:39] <IdleOne> alfermp: look on the drupal FAQ page. this is not a good place to ask anyway
[21:39] <Pelo> g'night foks
[21:39] <IdleOne> night Pelo
[21:39] <genii> !autostart | AgentHeX
[21:39] <ubotu> AgentHeX: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[21:39] <AgentHeX> oh...  /me is dumb
[21:39] <AgentHeX> i think i've seen that before, too
[21:39] <alfermp> ok IdleOne
[21:40] <|Quest|> scguy318 astro76 emmajane you there? its Voyage_
[21:40] <emmajane> |quest| I'm pretty sure that's what I've been using...
[21:40] <choudesh> alexbOrsova, what application are you using?
[21:40] <|Quest|> emmajane ic. ok
[21:40] <saxofoner> OKAY! I'm trying to manage my boot flags with gparted, running, of course, from an ubuntu livecd.
[21:40] <saxofoner> But, I can't mount the drives, and therefore can't manage flags
[21:41] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: did you read the post? It's a touch screen calibration app called TouchKit64
[21:41] <|Quest|> scguy318 astro76 emmajane  thanks alot :) !
[21:41] <AgentHeX> !boot
[21:41] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:41] <saxofoner> If I try to mount my drives, the error:  could not execute pmount message appears, along with a notice thatt the drive in question is not removable
[21:41] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: Do you want me to post the download link?
[21:42] <dhaulk> Can someone help me with a cam driver problem ?¿
[21:42] <choudesh> alexbOrsova, sure
[21:42] <Galactic> anyone there?
[21:42] <IdleOne> Galactic: 1136 someones are here
[21:42] <ompaul> Galactic, open a terminal, applications, accessories, terminal, and let us know when that is done, please prefix your answer with my nick thanks
[21:43] <saxofoner> I'm here
[21:43] <Galactic> ompaul that is done
[21:43] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: here it is (I downloaded the 64 bit because my laptop is 64 bit :) ): http://210.64.17.162/web20/TouckDriver/linuxDriver.htm
[21:43] <Zarx> I dont get a wireless network icon showing up in my taskbar. How can I get this back?
[21:43] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: for hte latest kernel
[21:43] <IdleOne> alexbOrsova: did you install 64 bit ubuntu ?
[21:43] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: yes
[21:43] <ompaul> Galactic, please type in that host www.google.com
[21:43] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: and it works, too
[21:43] <alexbOrsova> choudesh: the ubuntu os, I mean
[21:43] <saxofoner> Any of you had negative experiences with ubustudio?
[21:44] <AgentHeX> !cron
[21:44] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[21:44] <eko_hermiyanto> oh my god, I am drunked
[21:44] <eko_hermiyanto> :((
[21:44] <Galactic> ompaul ok so Im just going to type in "www.google.com"?
[21:44] <IdleOne> !ot | eko_hermiyanto
[21:44] <ubotu> eko_hermiyanto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:44] <simNIX> hi all
[21:44] <ompaul> Galactic, please type in there            host www.google.com
[21:44] <alexbOrsova> IdelOne: yes
[21:44] <Galactic> ok
[21:44] <IdleOne> eko_hermiyanto: for drunked discussion please join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:44] <alexbOrsova> IdleOne: yes
[21:44] <eko_hermiyanto> IdleOne, I am sorry
[21:44] <eko_hermiyanto> I am very sorry
[21:45] <ompaul> Galactic, have you got these numbers: 64.233.183.104  64.233.183.147 64.233.183.99
[21:45] <Galactic> ompaul ok this is what it says "host www.google.com
[21:45] <Galactic> www.google.com has address 74.125.47.104
[21:45] <Galactic> www.google.com has address 74.125.47.104
[21:45] <Galactic> www.google.com has address 74.125.47.104
[21:45] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how to create a new user in ubuntu in the terminal?
[21:45] <ompaul> Galactic, you need to put my nick in there
[21:45] <alexbOrsova> FantasticFoo: look into the adduser command
[21:45] <eko_hermiyanto> FantasticFoo, adduser
[21:45] <eko_hermiyanto> FantasticFoo, useradd
[21:45] <FantasticFoo> oh ok, thanks
[21:45] <ompaul> Galactic, that is good
[21:46] <FantasticFoo> lemme try that
[21:46] <ompaul> Galactic, it belongs to google
[21:46] <eko_hermiyanto> FantasticFoo, see the man pages for both of those commands
[21:46] <dhaulk> I have a webcam that is listed as Usb2.0 pc camera SN9C201 can someone tell me if there is ubuntu drivers for it or how I can make it work ?¿ ?¿ ?¿
[21:46] <ompaul> Galactic, do this,             host www.ubuntu.com
[21:46] <IdleOne> !camera | dhaulk
[21:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:47] <IdleOne> !hardware | dhaulk
[21:47] <ubotu> dhaulk: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:47] <ompaul> Galactic, please do not paste multiple lines to this channel, if you need to paste multiple lines then you should use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:47] <Galactic> ompaul I get this message when I do that"  host www.ubuntu.com
[21:47] <Galactic> ;; reply from unexpected source: 172.25.129.130#8, expected 172.25.129.130#53
[21:47] <Galactic> www.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.94.158
[21:47] <Galactic> ;; reply from unexpected source: 172.25.129.130#8, expected 172.25.129.130#53
[21:47] <Galactic> ;; reply from unexpected source: 172.25.129.130#8, expected 172.25.129.130#53
[21:47] <Galactic> sorry
[21:48] <daddy_fizz> anyone: is there any way to install/launch a usb persistent install without touching the MBR
[21:48] <daddy_fizz> using Grub/grub4dos, etc
[21:48] <genii> dhaulk: There seems to be some info on this subject here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351578
[21:48] <IdleOne> daddy_fizz: I am not sure but install grub on the usb device???
[21:48] <Galactic> ompaul this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50321/
[21:49] <IdleOne> daddy_fizz: guessing wildly :/
[21:49] <jamescarr> I cannot log out
[21:49] <jamescarr> why
[21:49] <Ttech> how do I logout of Ubuntu using the command line?
[21:49] <jamescarr> ?
[21:49] <jamescarr> I hit ctrl+alt+backspace in x11, nothing
[21:49] <jamescarr> I cannot escape
[21:49] <Ttech> jamescarr, same problem? :)
[21:49] <J-a-k-e> type exit
[21:49] <genii> Ttech: logout
[21:49] <ompaul> Galactic, your isp is not giving you a real ip
[21:49] <daddy_fizz> IdleOne:  I need to be able to run a couple othe boot disks.  If i use the "tradtional" persistent USB install, it puts syslinux in the MBR and I can no longer boot the other two disks...
[21:50] <Galactic> ompaul I loaded some unauthenticated stuff from the add remove programs synaptic today
[21:50] <daddy_fizz> going from the guide on pendrivelinux.com
[21:50] <Galactic> ompaul could that be the problem possibly?
[21:50] <ompaul> Galactic, such as, list them on one line
[21:50] <ompaul> Galactic, unlikely
[21:50] <IdleOne> daddy_fizz: like I said I was guessing . I really dont have any idea how to do what you are trying
[21:51] <Galactic> ompaul all of my other computers work great! to loading youtube
[21:51] <daddy_fizz> ok thanks anway though :) thought I would try
[21:51] <earthling> Ttech: in termiinal become superuseer and type: "init 0" to stop "init 6" to restart
[21:51] <x-X-x> i had previously installed totem media player (xine backend ) and a few seconds ago i downloaded and install gstreamer. will totem use gstreamer ??
[21:51] <rudolfmdlt> x-X-x USE XINE
[21:51] <rudolfmdlt> Gstreamer sucks
[21:51] <J-a-k-e> +.
[21:52] <IdleOne> daddy_fizz: perhaps editing syslinux and adding your other OS'es to it so it see's and boots
[21:52] <ompaul> Galactic, I doubt it, your networking looks funny from the off, that 172. address to return dns is just strange - most of the internet does not work like that - looks like your isp is having a bad day that is what it looks like
[21:52] <x-X-x> but i want to know if i had previouslty installed totem xine and now i installed gstreamer plugins will they overide xine automatically ?
[21:52] <genii> x-X-x: No
[21:52] <x-X-x> k
[21:52] <x-X-x> good
[21:52] <daddy_fizz> Idle0ne, I got syslinux to boot grub.exe, and I can then boot my other dos/bartpe disks - but they run much much slower
[21:53] <daddy_fizz> that is why i was looking for another path
[21:53] <genii> x-X-x: You would need to specifically install totem-gstreamer
[21:53] <jamiejackson> how to use the find dialog under sudo? also, how to see the subcommands that it runs in the background? I remember years ago using some gui file finder, and being able to see the commands it was running, so i could learn the underlying commands.
[21:53] <wols_> daddy_fizz: bootloaders have nothing to do how fast an OS runs when it's finally booted
[21:54] <IdleOne> daddy_fizz: sounds like an interesting problem. try posting to ubuntu forums see if they cant help you there
[21:54] <eko_hermiyanto> Ttech, it's not possible in ubuntu(gnome)
[21:54] <daddy_fizz> wols_: if i have the disk formatted to boot from boot.ini, I can load a program in my dos boot disk in 15 seconds.  If I go through syslinux-->grub.exe-->dos boot disk it will take 3-4 minues
[21:54] <eko_hermiyanto> because all of logout faciliities have no command line interface
[21:54] <eko_hermiyanto> it's called as bug number.. hmmm
[21:55] <x-X-x> previously on windows media player when i streamed a specific video from the internet i was able to move the seek bar and fast forward the video all it needed to do was re-buffer but i am unable to fast foward that same video through totem xine ? help
[21:55] <FantasticFoo> anyone know how to completely reinstall gnome from apt?
[21:55] <IdleOne> FantasticFoo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <FantasticFoo> "sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome*" wants to install everything with gnome in it
[21:55] <eko_hermiyanto> Bug #35393
[21:55] <eko_hermiyanto> Bug #35393
[21:55] <FantasticFoo> IdleOne: oh cool, i'll try that
[21:56] <jamescarr> lol... whoever that was that said "me too" when I complained I couldnt log out, I was able to log out ;)
[21:56] <IdleOne> FantasticFoo: --reinstall ubuntu-desktop maybe never tried before
[21:56] <FantasticFoo> but how might i reinstall anything that i have installed that starts with "gnome*"
[21:56] <jamescarr> I just kept pressing ctrl+alt+backspace over and over and I returned to the gdm screen
[21:56] <eko_hermiyanto> jamescarr, that's true
[21:56] <eko_hermiyanto> jamescarr, but, in this way, you kill X process
[21:58] <jamescarr> eko_hermiyanto: I cannot get out otherwise
[21:58] <x-X-x> is it possible to seek when streaming a video through totem xine ??
[21:59] <Ttech> How does the logout button work?
[21:59] <alexbOrsova> which devices under /dev/ are used for touch screens?
[21:59] <x-X-x> help anyone?
[22:00] <NelsonUWP> i completely messed up the screenlet installation can somene help me?
[22:00] <IdleOne> x-X-x: type in terminal " man totem | grep seek "
[22:00] <dhaulk> Hey thanks for that link I think I found the driver I need for my web cam
[22:00] <Reilithion> How do I check to see if hardware 3d acceleration is enabled?
[22:01] <elda> Hmmm not sure what the problem is with Envy but it seemed to work decently for me.  It even got the nvidia control panel working which the restricted drivers manager didnt do for me :s
[22:01] <IdleOne> dhaulk: happy to hear :) hope it works out
[22:01] <subopt> I just burned the iso for Gutsy, and it looks like it's trying to run 'live'. How do i get it to do a real install?
[22:01] <Industrys_foe> Yeah i had one hell of a time getting my twinhead nvidia card working
[22:01] <Industrys_foe> and its a 5k series
[22:01] <IdleOne> subopt: it is a live cd but on the desktop there should be a Install icon. click it
[22:01] <astro76> subopt, double click the install icon on the desktop
[22:01] <Reilithion> subopt: Run it live and click the Install icon on the desktop.
[22:01] <subopt> thanks, all!
[22:02] <x-X-x> IdleOne is it possible to seek using the gui ?
[22:02] <Industrys_foe> now im rocking a system that is cooler than what i need, x2 17" Samsung lcds
[22:02] <IdleOne> x-X-x: dont know check the options in the menus
[22:02] <IdleOne> x-X-x: probably I would think
[22:04] <Industrys_foe> I need some help getting this synth working
[22:05] <Industrys_foe> i installed the dependencys to make my program
[22:05] <Industrys_foe> i've made my install, but i cant execute it
[22:05] <linxeh> #lad or #ubuntu-offtopic probably
[22:05] <zetheroo> whats the terminal command to execute a .bin file?
[22:05] <linxeh> zetheroo: ./file.bin
[22:06] <zetheroo> linxeh: that did not work
[22:06] <linxeh> zetheroo: make it executable first - chmod u+x file.bin
[22:06] <datadigger> zetheroo : the execute bit must be set with chmod
[22:06] <x-X-x>  is it possible to seek a streaming video in totem xine using the gui not the terminal ?
[22:06] <zetheroo> sudo: ./octosetup-linux_i386.bin: command not found
[22:06] <linxeh> oh
[22:06] <linxeh> chmod ugo+x file.bin then
[22:07] <ds500ss> where is the #happer-new-year channel
[22:08] <linxeh> probably in #we-did-that-twenty-years-ago
[22:08] <linxeh> :)
[22:09] <jamescarr> who is Doc Searls!?
[22:10] <mico> hello
[22:11] <elda> What is a good place to stick programs that you untar?  I'm sadly still quite used to Windows and would like to stick my second life client in the "program files" type of location... or are programs never stored in a certain place?
[22:12] <truna> elda manage it your way, create your own folder to dump all downloaded tar
[22:12] <goat> Hi, does Deluge not use libtorrent?
[22:13] <zetheroo> how do I search my system for a file?
[22:13] <gary_> hi, I am looking for help with dual monitors
[22:13] <tonyyarusso> elda: /opt or /usr/local
[22:13] <mannytu> !monitors
[22:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:14] <gary_> do u know any1 who could help me?
[22:14] <goat> gary_, which graphics card?
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> elda: Make a folder somewhere under your /home/user/
[22:14] <datadigger> elda : i use /opt/bin
[22:14] <daishadar> !flash
[22:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:14] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:14] <javatexan> anyone use ubuntu on their TV?
[22:14] <datadigger> elda : yes, /home/user/bin
[22:15] <fdsf4> how can i setup a partition as swap ? i can use "mkswap/swapon partition" after booting but how can I set ubuntu to auto load the partition as swap ?
[22:15] <x-X-x> totem doesnt seek in streaming video how do i fix this ?
[22:15] <javatexan> i am buying a video card....how do you know which is better GeForce 7600 GT or a   GeForce 8500 GT
[22:15] <goat> fdsf4: Add it in fstab
[22:15] <gary_> goat,  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[22:15] <fdsf4> goat: what is UUID ?
[22:16] <gary_> what is that?
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > fdsf4
[22:16] <gary_> goat, i am not sure wat UUID is
[22:16] <goat> gary_: Oh, sorry. I use dual monitor with an nvidia card, and I can do it from nvidia-settings. Perhaps there is something similar for ATI Radeon that'll let you set it up easily.
[22:17] <Galactic> Im back everyone and my youtube problems are still here, I changed isps
[22:17] <MartinW> Why does ubuntu need a restart when installing a restricted driver? I was under the impression that you never need one except for kernel changes.
[22:17] <elda> javextan check on google for some benchmarks
[22:17] <zetheroo> how do you search in Ubuntu?
[22:17] <fdsf4> there is already one UUID set as swap in fstab. do I just change the UUID in that line ?
[22:17] <Galactic> so its not the isp there is malware on my ubuntu somehow
[22:17] <elda> Malware on Ubuntu o,O?
[22:18] <zetheroo> I need to locate a file
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo: Places/search for files
[22:18] <gary_> Goat, do you know anyone who may have experience with ati
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[22:18] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:18] <Galactic> yep apparently
[22:18] <elda> Eh how did you do that?
[22:18] <zetheroo> Jack_Sparrow: that never works
[22:18] <zetheroo> Jack_Sparrow: its like it only searches in the folder you are in
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo: then you are doing something wrong
[22:18] <Ttech> How do I turn off the screen in Ubuntu Command line or other
[22:18] <datadigger> MartinW : restart often not needed, one could unload/reload kernel modules, but reboot is easier
[22:19] <goat> gary_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[22:19] <zetheroo> Jack_Sparrow: like what?
[22:19] <datadigger> MartinW : at least, easier to explain to less technical people
[22:19] <zylche> ..before I start, is there anyone here helping?
[22:19] <MartinW> Ah.
[22:19] <MartinW> Thanks then.
[22:19] <zylche> Right.
[22:19] <zetheroo> Jack_Sparrow: I click on Search and type in the name of what I am looking for
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo: Are you searching in Nautilus or another way
[22:19] <goat> !uuid > goat
[22:19] <elda> zylche: There are many people helping... what do you need help with is the question :s
[22:19] <datadigger> MartinW : yw
[22:19] <zetheroo> Jack_Sparrow: yes... Nautilus
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> zetheroo: Then you are NOT doing what I just suggested.
[22:20] <emmet> hey
[22:20] <zylche> 945GM, can get widescreen with the intel driver, with i810 I get a 4:3 resolution, no direct rendering on either. Trying to get direct rendering working, ati as mentioned. Any help, or am I being too vague?
[22:20] <Galactic> hey I recently installed and fixed my resolution with the nvidia-glx new and it won't save any of my changes after I reboot why is this?
[22:21] <thingy> Ttech: see the man page for xset, e.g. /usr/bin/xset dpms force off (you can substitute standby or suspend in place of the off in that command)
[22:21] <jeezers> can someone tell me where to get a C++ IDE in ubuntu?
[22:21] <emmet> is der a version of ubuntu 1 could just drag onto a usb stick and boot from...like a live cd...but a modifiable working enviroment?
[22:21] <[[BLADE]]> HELLO ! I just got this laptop and I want to have windows xp and ubuntu on it, is there any problems with ubuntu and dual core cpus ?
[22:21] <emmet> hell no
[22:21] <jamiejackson> i'm using both cores in ubuntu
[22:21] <MartinW> !language
[22:21] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:22] <emmet> sorry
[22:22] <elda> Im doing fine with Ubuntu on a dual core system
[22:22] <emmet> heck no
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[22:22] <jeezers> lol
[22:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:22] <emmet> me too
[22:22] <elda> I'm dual booting Vista and Ubuntu atm
[22:22] <scguy318> [[BLADE]]: no
[22:22] <thingy> jeezers: http://www.gnomefiles.org/category.php?cat_id=8  <-- see the ides section
[22:22] <jeezers> okiw
[22:22] <[[BLADE]]> w00t
[22:22] <scguy318> jeezers: KDevelop and Eclipse can do C++ I believe
[22:22] <jeezers> *okie
[22:22] <[[BLADE]]> =)
[22:22] <[[BLADE]]> was worried about that
[22:23] <MartinW> Is reloading the kernel modules very complicated?
[22:23] <[[BLADE]]> im downloading the latest ubuntu 7.1
[22:23] <scguy318> MartinW: no, sudo modprobe -r modulename && sudo modprobe modulename?
[22:23] <jeezers> and without the ide?
[22:23] <ishikawa> Hello folks
[22:23] <elda> At one point when I was trying to figure some stuff I was triple booting XP/Vista/Ubuntu
[22:23] <scguy318> jeezers: without? like the compiler?
[22:23] <jeezers> yeah
[22:23] <scguy318> jeezers: comes with build-essential, g++
[22:23] <ishikawa> I am writing from Taiwan, so new year already over haha, but wish you a happy new year
[22:24] <truna> you could add a fourth, have vmware and a choice of another os on top of vmware
[22:24] <scguy318> ishikawa: happy new year to you too
[22:24] <thingy> emmet: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install/ <-- should apply to 7.10 as well!
[22:24] <elda> Happy new year ishikawa :)
[22:24] <ishikawa> ^^ thanks
[22:24] <jeezers> sudo apt-get install build-essential rite?
[22:25] <MartinW> scguy: thanks! So if I installed an nvidia driver the module name would be?
[22:25] <Ttech> thingy, that will turn off the monitor?
[22:25] <[[BLADE]]> Do I need to do a special partition ? or can I install ubuntu in a regular partition ?
[22:25] <ishikawa> Amazing so much activity here, confuses me a little but, can I get a helping hand here?
[22:26] <matthew_> can you plug in the user password into the ssh command?  I have a device where I am not able to type the password AFTER typing the ssh command.
[22:26] <thingy> Ttech: yes, the example i gave, will turn it off...what is it you want to do?
[22:26] <truna> matthew_, i believe its the -p option
[22:26] <emmet> thanx thingy
[22:26] <truna> ishikawa, what help do you need?
[22:27] <matthew_> truna: according to the man page, -p is port.
[22:27] <Ttech> thingy, I just want to turn off the monitor, and when I move the mouse it comes back on, it does not put the computer into standby though
[22:27] <corinth> I'm talking to my friend right now over gaim. He's having trouble getting his atheros 5007eg wireless card to work in Gutsy. Any ideas?
[22:27] <truna> matthew_, since you have the manual, look for the password option
[22:27] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3164/ someone help?
[22:28] <thingy> Ttech: doesn't gnome already do that? power management? i.e. turn off display WITHOUT suspending the machine?
[22:28] <matthew_> truna:  i have, but it is very long and I don't what 80% of it means, i was hoping someone more knowledgeable already knew about this.
[22:28] <[[BLADE]]> Do I need to do a special partition ? or can I install ubuntu in a regular partition ?
[22:28] <corinth> jeezers: Have you tried rebooting?
[22:28] <Ttech> thingy, I'll check
[22:28] <jeezers> not yet, gimme a minute!!
[22:28]  * zylche asks for help
[22:28] <ishikawa> @truna: I got a serious problem keeps me  busy since days, it's about using 3 Displays at once. All I could Achive was to set up Xinerama and glx so far okay but now my three work as once and if I maximize a window it's as big as all 3
[22:28] <thingy> !ask
[22:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question, ask the question --On One Line -- that you need answered, and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:29] <ishikawa> And no window can memorize it's position and open on the left screen, really annoiying ;(
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> Hello
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody
[22:29] <tiredbones>  this command "sudo dpkg -i smplayer_0.5.42-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb" gave me this error  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386). my system is a amd64.
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> tell me smo goog program for download
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> _
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> ?
[22:29] <Ttech> thingy, no, I mean like a keycommand
[22:29] <FicaBlok38> *good
[22:29] <truna> ishikawa i thought its much simpler, i dont know about  triple displays, i cant even afford dual..
[22:30] <jshriver> greetings
[22:30] <thingy> tiredbones: paste the output of uname -a
[22:30] <fdsf4> Thanks goat, editing fstab worked fine :)
[22:30] <goat> great!
[22:30] <jshriver> anyone recommend a good wireless AP?  I use to enjoy my WRT54GS flashed with DD-WRT but the wan port died.. so need to get another one. But hear 7's suck and dont know the quality of any other brand.
[22:30] <ishikawa> truna :) u know Taiwans Display are more cheaper  -_-
[22:30] <thingy> Ttech: so you want to type in a command to lock the screen + put the monitor in sleep mode?
[22:30] <truna> ishikawa, i bet..
[22:31] <tiredbones> thingy, Linux wayne-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:31] <truna> ishikawa but bananas are like what 3 dollars a pound? hehehe
[22:31] <Ttech> thingy, sounds about right, the lock thing is not requried htough
[22:31] <vee_> whats going everyone
[22:31] <thingy> tiredbones: you aren't running a 64bit version of ubuntu...hence the package you are installing is failing. its for a 64bit version of ubuntu
[22:31] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody tell me any good program for download?
[22:31] <FicaBlok38> Please_
[22:31] <FicaBlok38> ?
[22:32] <thingy> Ttech: so doesn't the xset command do you what you want? turn the display off when you run it?
[22:32] <jshriver> FicaBlok38, to download what?
[22:32] <truna> FicaBlok38, install blender and have fun with 3-d
[22:32] <ishikawa> I don't wanted to bother others so I try to figured out as much as I could but the forum but this I cannot solve by google and co ;( haha maybe ^^
[22:32] <jshriver> or work with what,
[22:32] <FicaBlok38> Files from interne
[22:32] <jshriver> truna, blender is awesome :)
[22:32] <Ttech> thingy, yea I was asking. :)
[22:32] <Ttech> Ok
[22:32] <jshriver> FicaBlok38, wget, curl, firefox
[22:32] <Ttech> I'll try it
[22:32] <truna> jshriver, i agree
[22:32] <FicaBlok38> tnx
[22:32] <tiredbones> thingy, I have a 64 bit machine.
[22:32] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3165/ still doesnt work!
[22:33] <jshriver> FicaBlok38, curl -O http://www.blah.com/file.zip   or wget http://blah.com/file.zip
[22:33] <thingy> tiredbones: yes, i understood that but you are running the 32bit version of ubuntu. This means the binary files(i.e. executables) are compiled for a 32bit processor...you cannot run a 64bit binary on a 32bit system. Your 64bit system is running a 32bit version of ubuntu
[22:34] <FicaBlok38> jshriver: tnx
[22:34] <thingy> tiredbones: just get the i386 version of the file from wherever you got the 64bit one from and install that
[22:34] <[[BLADE]]> is there a guide of how to install ubuntu on a windows xp for dual system machine ?
[22:35] <Panda02> i just
[22:35] <Panda02> did
[22:35] <Panda02> it
[22:35] <Panda02> but i need a quick help
[22:35] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3165/ someone help me install build-essential
[22:35] <tiredbones> how can that be, I download and install ubuntu 7-10 for amd64 three or four days ago and have been doing updates.
[22:35] <Panda02> seems like grub messes up my boot loader so the media direct button doesn't work
[22:36] <jshriver> anyone recommend a good Router with wireless?
[22:36] <Panda02> anyone no how to edit boot.ini file so that it shows ubuntu as an option
[22:36] <ishikawa> @jeezer Console: apt-get install build-essential
[22:36] <jeezers> console?
[22:36] <emmet> blade: this is best tutorial i found when i was dual-booting http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[22:36] <tiredbones> thingy, how can that be, I download and install ubuntu 7-10 for amd64 three or four days ago and have been doing updates.
[22:36] <ishikawa> Terminal
[22:36] <jeezers> oh
[22:36] <jshriver> boot.ini? Window's boot manager doesnt allow multi-ple OS's have to use lilo or grub
[22:37] <thingy> tiredbones: see the i686 bit from the uname -a output you posted...that means you are running the 32bit version
[22:37] <Panda02> really? can't u just add another line [operating systems]
[22:37] <Panda02> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[22:37] <Panda02> after that?
[22:37] <jeezers> @ishikawa: tat doesnt work either!
[22:37] <thingy> jeezers: why are you installing build-essential? shouldn't it be build-essentials <--- with an s?
[22:38] <Panda02> saying sumthing like multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\ubuntu="ubuntu"
[22:38] <ishikawa> @thingy no s at the end
[22:38] <emmet> blade: that tutorial is about win2000 but should work for xp
[22:38] <vee_> loudnlownoma are you around?
[22:38] <jeezers> @thingy: couldn't find the package
[22:38] <tiredbones> thingy, I'm going to boot my system now and see what that reports.
[22:39] <[[BLADE]]> EMMET, wheres the tutorial at ?
[22:39] <corinth> Does anyone know a program I can install that can create a backup image of my whole Ubuntu partition?
[22:39] <Riekal> hey
[22:39] <emmet> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[22:40] <thingy> jeezers: what version of ubuntu have you got installed?
[22:40] <emmet> rite there
[22:40] <jeezers> 7.10
[22:40] <Riekal> anyone know a good proxy app that i can use to get on this one site tha i have been banned from?
[22:40] <matt___> i was trying to install something with wine (possibly has nothing to do with it??), and it went horribly wrong, and upon reboot,  gutsy won't boot correctly (gdm won't start) and it mentions running bootime scripts at /etc/rc.local
[22:40] <matt___> i am in terminal on the machine now..
[22:41] <Panda02> so if there is no way to edit boot.ini like that?
[22:41] <[[BLADE]]> emmet ! thanks you =)
[22:41] <matt___> i've tried starting gdm, but it won't...
[22:41] <ishikawa> @jeezers you tryed haveing root priviledges ?
[22:41] <Panda02> if not, I kinda didn't bother installing grub when installing ubuntu...so how am i supposed to get the option of booting into ubuntu now
[22:41] <Panda02> ?
[22:41] <matt___> can someone heck to see if they have a /etc/rc.local?
[22:42] <javatexan>  are the video card drivers updated?  Geforce 7600GT and/or 8500GT?
[22:42] <jeezers> ishikawa: wat exactly does tat mean? am kinda new here. . .
[22:42] <thingy> jeezers: my mistake then...i just checked, its without an s...coulda swore it had an s though!
[22:42] <jeezers> :)
[22:42] <corporeal> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[22:42] <corporeal> how can i fix this?
[22:42] <loucas> happy new year people
[22:42] <ishikawa> jeezers: when you are in termonal, it the first line root@ or your username@
[22:43] <slain> hi all
[22:43] <jeezers> username@
[22:43] <matt___> i was trying to install something with wine (possibly has nothing to do with it??), and it went horribly wrong, and upon reboot,  gutsy won't boot correctly (gdm won't start) and it mentions running bootime scripts at /etc/rc.local
[22:43] <ishikawa> if not root@ trz "sudo su" and enter your password
[22:43] <Oli``> Can anybody suggest a good minimalistic GTK media player that would allow me to configure control keybindings? Xine is pretty rad but it's also fugly =) and nautilus seems to forget it exists in some situations (usually when on a vfs)
[22:43] <matt___> so can someone check their /etc/rc.local
[22:43] <matt___> Oli``: try rythombox, i like it
[22:43] <slain> when I create a new user, I want the user to be part of the fuse group by default
[22:43] <ishikawa> jeezers: try again "apt-get install build-essential"
[22:43] <emmet> banshee
[22:43] <slain> how can I do this?
[22:44] <Oli``> my bad, I meant to say video player
[22:44] <emmet> banshee is pretty minimal
[22:44] <matt___> Oli``: vlc?
[22:44] <thingy> jeezers: have you tried to upgrade to hardy heron? i.e. unstable, on this box?
[22:44] <emmet> vlc is god! it will play any media!
[22:44] <jeezers> i havent
[22:44] <Oli``> matt___: try as I might, I can't get it accept my bindings
[22:44] <thingy> jeezers: before running the command...do an apt-get update to see if it reports any new stuff
[22:44] <Panda02> vlc doesn't play rm
[22:45] <jeezers> alrite
[22:45] <tiredbones> thingy, is there anyway to tell what image i have on the cd i burnt?
[22:45] <Panda02> so anyone no how i can even get the option of acess to my ubuntu partition?
[22:46] <corinth> emmet: vlc is great, but ugly :-P
[22:46] <Oli``> sorry Panda02, what's your issue?
[22:46] <emmet> wuts a more pretty one?
[22:46] <Oli``> emmet: xine when it's hiding everything =)
[22:46] <emmet> haha
[22:47] <jeezers> i guess i jus realised wat my mistake was. . . i had synaptic running too, so tat shud solve it?
[22:47] <Panda02> @ oli  i kinda didn't bother installing grub thinking i could edit my boot.ini file to have the choice to boot ubuntu...someone says i can't
[22:47] <Panda02> so what can i do now?
[22:47] <Oli``> installing grub is pretty simple
[22:47] <jeezers> nope, still doesnt work :(
[22:48] <jeezers> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3165/ same error again!!
[22:48] <thingy> tiredbones: the cd should have a .disk folder on the root of it, which has a file called "info" which tells you what release of ubuntu that cd is
[22:48] <Panda02> anyways grub is creating problems for my media direct partition...is there any other way?
[22:48] <magic_ninja> whats the program name to run that graphical disk checking utility
[22:48] <Panda02> @ iif not, how would i go about installing grub from windows
[22:49] <ishikawa> jeezers: what did the terminal says after you type the command we suggest you?
[22:49] <magic_ninja> Panda02: put it on a floppy and boot the floppy
[22:49] <Oli``> Panda02: you can't install it from windows but you can install it from the livecd
[22:49] <Panda02> ah
[22:49] <Oli``> Panda02: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=117829&postcount=2
[22:49] <Panda02> oh yeah never thought of that
[22:49] <Reilithion> How can I check to see if my video card's hardware acceleration is being used?
[22:49] <javatexan> where is the video card compat list for ubuntu 7.10?
[22:49] <jeezers> @ishikawa: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3165/ <--tats there, the result of the command
[22:49] <magic_ninja> Panda02: yea i forget floppies are supposed to be dying
[22:50] <tiredbones> thingy,  I don't believe I did that. I thought sure I had amd64.
[22:50] <matt____> i went to reboot gutsy, and now gui won't load, i've tried /etc/init.d/gdm start, but that doesn't work. I can get into a terminal. Someone try and show me where to start?
[22:50] <thingy> tiredbones: whats the output of that file then?
[22:51] <ishikawa> oh
[22:51] <thingy> tiredbones: Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" - Release i386 (20071016) <-- ?
[22:51] <il312> I have a question
[22:51] <tiredbones> thingy,  It show I have i386!!!!!!!
[22:51] <Sonja> il312:  just askit
[22:52] <ishikawa> @jeezers sorry Thats the way it always worked for me, maybe try to clean your apt by "sudo apt-get clean"
[22:52] <il312> I have Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) but I bought a book on Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty). I know that Gutsy will have some changes but is it different enough to effect the book helping me learn the system or is it ok to just run with it?
[22:52] <Panda02> thaks, just a few more things...Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are
[22:52] <jeezers> okay
[22:52] <Panda02> is there any command to check that?
[22:52] <matt____> il312: it'll work for the most part
[22:52] <jeezers> still doesnt work :(
[22:52] <emmet> il312: 7.10 is very similar...i have books on 6.10 that i still use
[22:53] <il312> matt___: ty. Are there any particular differences that I would need to note between the two?
[22:53] <dolphin_noel> good year :)
[22:53] <Awol1> Afternoon all
[22:53] <jeezers> mornin awol :)
[22:53] <Awol1> heh
[22:54] <matt____> binarydigit: probably not.
[22:54] <Awol1> just installed my first ubuntu. /cheer
[22:54] <jeezers> oh congrats!
[22:54] <ishikawa> Or maybe your source sucks :) Maybe check for a different server at (dunno how the right path is in english) maybe System -> Properties -> Software Sources
[22:54] <[[BLADE]]> I just downloaded ubuntu 7.10 from the website, how do I know if it had livecd ?
[22:54] <matt____> anyone know what /etc/rc.local is for?
[22:54] <tiredbones> thingy, it doesn't have the Gibbons, just Gusty. otherwise everything is the same.
[22:54] <il312> emmet: alright. ty. do you know of any significant and/or particular differences that I would need to note between 7.10 and 7.04?
[22:54] <Panda02> Open a terminal window or switch to a tty
[22:54] <emmet> blade: the default is a live download
[22:54] <matt____> [[BLADE]]: unless you purpessly downloaded alternate, then it is live
[22:54] <jeezers> okay, i'll check it out
[22:55] <[[BLADE]]> ok thanks =)
[22:55] <matt____> someone google /etc/rc.local for me and explain? i'm in a failsafe terminal and can't boot
[22:55] <thingy> il312: for some free books: http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/movingtoubuntu/   http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/official/     http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/hacks/    http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[22:55] <crush_groove>  is there any functional difference between sudo and gksudo?
[22:55] <tiredbones> thingy, I guess I have to get the amd64 version. thanks for your help.
[22:55] <thingy> tiredbones: np
[22:55] <jeezers> oh well, never mind! thanks for the help, but i need to leave now!
[22:55] <jeezers> @ishikawa: thanks!
[22:55] <ishikawa> Sorry :( bye bye
[22:55] <jeezers> gunnite folks. . . have an awesome new year! :)
[22:56] <Panda02> can someone explain what 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are  (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[22:56] <Panda02> does for installing grub??
[22:56] <ishikawa> mat____: Whats your problem ?
[22:56] <Oli``> crush_groove: depends on the situation... if you're making a launcher (eg from a panel) you'd want to use gksudo otherwise the user never see's the sudo prompt
[22:56] <kitche> crush_groove: well gksu setup paths for gui applications better
[22:56] <ishikawa> Maybe can google sth. for you
[22:56] <emmet> il312: well, not really...it has better driver support and rockin' desktop effects!
[22:56] <matt____> ishikawa: i can't boot...dunno why..just went to reboot, and now it hangs on "running runtime script rc.local
[22:57] <crush_groove>  thank you Oli``  and kitche
[22:57] <slain> I found the answer to my own question, the solution is adduser.conf
[22:57] <il312> emmet: ty. haha. I can probably find some online guides to the drivers and desktop effects then. ty ;)
[22:57] <ishikawa> hm
[22:57] <ishikawa> matt____: The default rc.local should be as good as empty I think
[22:58] <ishikawa> Mine Says only  exit 0 haha
[22:58] <matt____> ishikawa: mine isn't empty, but not much in it. after the "bar that shows loading progress", the terminal comes up, and hangs on the rc.local
[22:58] <matt____> ishikawa: thats all mine says. but it hangs, and gdm won't start...even if i try to start it /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:58] <ishikawa> mat____: "This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other value on error."
[22:59] <ishikawa> maybe comment everything expect exit 0 ?
[22:59] <matt____> ishikawa: yep, that's exactly what mine says
[22:59] <matt____> ishikawa: is yours?
[22:59] <emmet> il312: and of course it has all the latest versions of the software
[22:59] <ishikawa> #!/bin/sh -e in the first line and exit 0 after the explanation thats all
[22:59] <ishikawa> yes thats mine
[22:59] <matt____> ishikawa: i mean..is yours commented out?
[23:00] <Gunirus> Happy New Year
[23:00] <ishikawa> no it only has one line that is not commented ^^
[23:00] <ishikawa> Happy new year  :)
[23:00] <matt____> ishikawa: i don't think that's it, its hanging for some othe reason
[23:01] <ishikawa> maybe try it ? you can comment all the other lines and just leave "exit 0" it should be originally than isn't it ?
[23:01] <stemount> hi
[23:01] <vee_> hello.. is there an easy way to add swap to a system after everything has been installed or should i jus reinstall?
[23:02] <nu2linux> Happy New Year All -  can anyone tell how to change startup screen from kbuntu to regular ubuntu?
[23:02] <astro76> vee_, it's pretty easy
[23:02] <vee_> astro76 how do i do it... if you dont mind
[23:02] <astro76> vee_, assuming you can resize partitions to make room for swap
[23:02] <kitche> !usplash | nu2linux this tells you how
[23:02] <ubotu> nu2linux this tells you how: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[23:02] <ishikawa> matt___: you received my copy?
[23:03] <vee_> astro76  i have no data i care about on the machine and 2 500 gb dirves
[23:03] <Awol1> so is there a MPS player for Ubuntu that will let me stream shoutcast stations?
[23:03] <Awol1> MP3*
[23:03] <nu2linux> thanks ubotu
[23:03] <astro76> vee_, you can use gparted to make the partition (system > admin > partition editor, install gparted if it's not there)
[23:04] <Q_Continuum> Question: with encrypted LVM install, any way to change passphrase later, or is it permanant? (encryption tied to passphrase?)
[23:04] <mavsman> I'm having trouble installing AWN, can someone help me?
[23:04] <astro76> vee_, then you just add a line like this to your fstab: UUID=xxxxxxxxx none    swap    sw      0       0
[23:04] <mavsman> When I try to make, it tells me that there is no make file
[23:05] <astro76> vee_, use blkid command to get the UUIDs
[23:05] <astro76> vee_, then you can use swapon -a to activate it without rebooting
[23:05] <kitche> mavsman: well there probably isn't one is there a configure file in the directory?
[23:05] <ishikawa> matt___: What other lines your startup skript has?
[23:05] <mavsman> kitche: I believe so
[23:05] <Nrbelex> Hi, I am able to see networks using my wireless card, but I cannot connect. Is it normal for the system monitor to show zero outgoing activity during the making of a connection?
[23:06] <mavsman> kitche: when I do ./configure it works
[23:06] <vee_> astro76 i have to install partion manager first
[23:06] <starscreamd> Group question: can I restore original config some how?
[23:06] <kitche> mavsman: after configure is done running do make install and it will work configure makes the Makefile usually
[23:07] <mavsman> kitche: alright i will give that a try
[23:08] <mavsman> kitche: it seems to be working thanks a bunch
[23:08] <vee_> astro76 I used....  sudo apt-get gparted    but got and error : E: Invaild poeration gparted
[23:08] <astro76> vee_, sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:08] <vee_> astro76 hehehe
[23:09] <Nrbelex> I have a USB wireless network card which IS compatible with 2.6.x kernels and it can see networks, but cannot connect... Is it normal for the system monitor to show zero outgoing activity during the making of a connection?
[23:09] <starscreamd> I need some assitance restoreing original group settings.. anyone be of assistance?
[23:10] <astro76> starscreamd, need to know the groups the first user is in?
[23:10] <vee_> astro76 its scanning right now
[23:10] <emmet> anyone know has to make my own distro live cd...basically just ubuntu but with my fave apps on it?
[23:11] <astro76> emmet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[23:11] <starscreamd> astro76: no exactly. I manually edited a part of it and now my sound card isn't recognized and I think it's because I'm somehow no longer in the sound group.
[23:11] <murf3326> Sometimes when selecting a screen saver in Ubuntu 7.10 the gnome desktop will grash and restart to the login screen.  I'm using a nvidia 7950GT card with the restricted drivers... dual screen.  Anyone know if this is a known bug or is it a problem with my install?
[23:11] <thingy> emmet: or you can try this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[23:11] <starscreamd> I'd just like to restore original settings if possible
[23:11] <W8TAH>  hi folks -- im wanting to view this link mms://a293.l2717654292.c27176.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/293/27176/v0001/reflector:54292  firefox tells me it does not know how to handle the link -- what do i need to install????
[23:12] <kitche> W8TAH: a program that can do mms://
[23:12] <emmet> thanx heaps thingy
[23:12] <__mikem> What do I do if I want free internet phone?
[23:12] <W8TAH> kitche: i think so
[23:12] <W8TAH> __mikem: install skype
[23:12] <starscreamd> m8 beat me to it :)
[23:12] <kitche> W8TAH: I know vlc can do that usually I just copy the url and just open up my player to play those
[23:12] <pvl> is there a terminal command to find out ur ip address?
[23:12] <vee_> W8TAH its a WMF
[23:13] <vee_> W8TAH windows media player
[23:13] <__mikem> and if I do, can I make a call to a regular cell phone from the internet phone account?
[23:13] <seeker> Bonne année !!!! Happy New Year
[23:13] <vee_> W8TAH i used my mac to see it though
[23:13] <W8TAH> kitche: ok
[23:13] <W8TAH> __mikem: i believe so -- but i believe thats an additional cost
[23:13] <SpArTaKo> ?
[23:13] <SpArTaKo> a chinga donde esta el de español?
[23:13] <SpArTaKo> no hablo ingles
[23:14]  * Pelo is happy to report that the snow has been shoveled
[23:15] <vee_> astro76 is it normal for it to be scanning for a long time??
[23:15] <pvl> does anyone know of a command to find out my current ip address from the terminal
[23:15] <pvl> ?
[23:15] <Pelo> pvl, ifconfig ?
[23:15] <astro76> starscreamd, this will do it: sudo usermod --groups <yourusername>,adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,scanner,netdev,lpadmin,powerdev,admin <yourusername>
[23:15] <stemount> ifconfig = linux
[23:15] <kitche> pvl: your external ip not really
[23:15] <stemount> ipconfig = windows
[23:15] <stemount> ;)
[23:15] <astro76> vee_, no, what is it scanning
[23:15] <pvl> Pelo ill see what that does,
[23:16] <vee_> astro76 it just stopped....i only see the one drive.... the other is mounted via /media
[23:16] <pvl> kitche, damn ur right
[23:16] <sean> whats the hotkey to move between desktops?
[23:16] <vee_> astro76 if i have 4 gbs of ram how much should i use for swap?
[23:16] <sean> workstations i mean
[23:16] <kitche> pvl: you could use wget for that if you wish
[23:16] <Pelo> pvl, I just checked , I can't find my external ip on ifconfig
[23:17] <arlbee> I am running 7.10 Ubuntu...do I need to run an antivirus program on Linux ?
[23:17] <pvl> vee_, i dont think u need any
[23:17] <tome> pvl, parse lynx/links/wget output from whatismyip.com
[23:17] <W8TAH> arlbee: not really
[23:17] <Pelo> arlbee, not realy
[23:17] <pvl> Pelo, oh thanks
[23:17] <vee_> astro76 hibernation fails
[23:17] <kitche> pvl: hang on I'll give you the script that I found in two seconds
[23:17] <sean> whats the hotkey to move between workstations without using the mouse?
[23:17] <Pelo> sean,  crtl alt arrow
[23:18] <sean> thank you
[23:18] <arlbee> thanks Pelo....but what if I receive a virus via an email ?
[23:18] <emmet> arlbee: short answer...no.
[23:18] <arlbee> thnks emmet
[23:19] <white_eagle> hhuh? my window bar just got lost??!!!?
[23:19] <emmet> arlbee: those viruses are exe and only work in windows
[23:19] <white_eagle> I cant see anything above this window
[23:19] <white_eagle> how to fix this bug
[23:19] <Pelo> arlbee,  if you are worried about passing one on to your windows using freinds you can install clamtk or avast as a nice new linux version or just get new freinds
[23:19] <Dr_willis> wine windowsvirusinstaller.exe
[23:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:19] <Pelo> white_eagle, what irc client are hyou using %?
[23:19] <arlbee> thnks emmet...I am slowly learning the benefits of Linux...Cheers
[23:20] <white_eagle> noflex, It got lost at all of the programs
[23:20] <kitche> bah the buyout is effecting my hosting .....
[23:20] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  wine isnt, that good yet
[23:20] <vee_> astro76 it says hibernation fails
[23:20] <white_eagle> no  , It got lost at all of the programs
[23:20] <vee_> astro76 thats the only reason i was going to put it on
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  ive used it to test out spyware. :)
[23:20] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  and the results ?
[23:20] <white_eagle> Pelo: I don't want to restart the x session
[23:20] <white_eagle> I want the window bars back with the close minimize buttons
[23:21] <white_eagle> this is stupid
[23:21] <Reilithion> How can I check to see if my video card is being used for hardware acceleration?
[23:21] <Pelo> white_eagle, are you using compiz ?
[23:21] <white_eagle> yes
[23:21] <Pelo> white_eagle,  kill compiz
[23:21] <white_eagle> and
[23:21] <Pelo> white_eagle, and nothing , turning off desktop efects will restore the title bars and stuff
[23:22] <goldphish> How can I prevent a specific package from being upgraded?
[23:22] <arlbee> thnks pelo....
[23:22] <dgjones> !pining | goldphish
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pining - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <white_eagle> afaik
[23:22] <white_eagle> restarting the x session
[23:22] <white_eagle> I hate this
[23:22] <white_eagle> :!!!!!!
[23:22] <flush> anyone got an ipod and knows what to do when the dumb device wont boot anymore for absolutely no apparent reasons no matter how long you try to reset it and when nothing is detected when its plugged on the computer
[23:22] <Pelo> goldphish, you can make it so in synaptic, find the package , right cick properteis,  there is an option somewhere in there
[23:23] <dgjones> !pinning | goldphish, This is what I was looking for, should help you
[23:23] <ubotu> goldphish, This is what I was looking for, should help you: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[23:23] <Pelo> flush, you can try bitching to apple about it
[23:23] <goldphish> dgjones: ahh, that's what it's called; thanks
[23:23] <vee_> flush try letting the battery go dead first
[23:23] <kitche2> pvl: here is the script http://pastebin.ca/840521
[23:23] <emmet> arlbee: this blog post has some good apps, it convinced me to switch http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php?mail2=true
[23:23] <vee_> flush then try ipod disk for mac
[23:23] <goldphish> Pelo: COOL, THANKS
[23:23] <pvl> kitche, thanks mate
[23:23] <flush> its ipod nano..
[23:23] <goldphish> Pelo: sorry about the caps there ;0
[23:23]  * Pelo 's ears hurt form goldphish 's gratitude 
[23:23] <vee_> flush i would try that first... ipoddisk
[23:24] <vee_> flush do you have a mac
[23:24] <flush> negative
[23:24] <flush> but doesnt matter man
[23:24] <flush> dmesg doesnt list anything when its plugged
[23:24] <kitche> pvl: had to load up another irssi since my webhost broke my site since it's being transferred to my new host since my original host got took over ...
[23:24] <vee_> flush errr.... well it uses networking protocol... does the screel turn on??
[23:25]  * Pelo thinks flush is not cool and hip,  he probably drives an escort and wears a suite , definately not a mac user 
[23:25] <pvl> kitche, like hacked?
[23:25] <flush> nothing turns on mate
[23:25] <flush> its like there was no battery at all
[23:25]  * Pelo is gonna stop makeing stupid jokes now 
[23:25] <flush> and battery was half charged when it died
[23:25] <kitche> pvl: nah my host got bought out by another host and they are migrated everyone on the one host over to the new host so it broke some sites still
[23:25] <vee_> flush how long have you had it?
[23:25] <Pelo> flush,  did anything unusual happen to the ipod before it stoped working ?
[23:25] <pvl> kitche, ah, i see
[23:26] <vee_> pelo thats funny
[23:26] <flush> nothing unsual man, nothing
[23:26] <aleka> My Ubuntu machine has been freezing on the screen saver lately. I had turned off compix fusion thinking it was a conflict with its handling of screen savers, but this still keeps on happening. It is random and the system becomes non-responsive once it gets stuck on the screen saver.. any ideas??
[23:26] <flush> its been running 24/7 for 2 years
[23:26] <flush> worked 5/5, nothing unsual
[23:26]  * Pelo wonders what the warrantie is on an ipod 
[23:26] <flush> its 1 year
[23:27] <vee_> flush find an app thats lets you take your music off of it... maybe that will help
[23:27] <rsvampire> are there any guitar players that can help me get some line 6 gear working under Gutsy?
[23:27] <Pelo> flush, did it seem like the battery was giving you less time per charge as time went on ?
[23:27] <tome> aleka, did you check the system error logs in /var? no particular idea to help you
[23:27] <flush> no.. thats what i mean it was all good i had something like maybe 20 hours autonomy when battery was charged, the thing was all good
[23:27] <flush> it just self-destructed apparently
[23:27] <Pelo> rsvampire,  I recommend the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:27] <aleka> tome:  I remeber checking syslogs back when I thought it was a compiz issue and not finding anything there
[23:28] <Pelo> flush, cold , heat, kids  ?
[23:28] <emmet> flush: same thing happened to me...try to find a windows box an restore firmware
[23:28] <emmet> from itunes
[23:28] <flush> Pelo no.. was in my pocket all the time, i just stopped it and it died
[23:28] <flush> emmet thats useless
[23:28] <rsvampire> Pelo already tried the forum, not much there
[23:28] <flush> its not detected
[23:28] <Pelo> flush,  I'll go with restoring firmware as well
[23:28] <flush> it will say "please plug an ipod"
[23:28] <flush> when i plug it via usb the screen doesnt light up, nothing..
[23:29] <Pelo> rsvampire, a channel for the software you want to use maybe, there migth be linux users about
[23:29] <syntaxerror55> iPods do that. A friend of mine had an iPod that did that :|
[23:29] <emmet> does it recognis it as usb device flush?
[23:29] <rsvampire> Pelo alright I'll try somewhere else then
[23:29] <flush> they are crappy devices, they work so good and then they just die
[23:29] <vee_> pvl regarding my swap
[23:29] <flush> emmet no, nothing
[23:29] <aleka> hmm... last log in the syslog shows a CRON job that couldn't complete because I had removed ubuntuzilla.py
[23:29] <Pelo> rsvampire, you can try asking here periodialy but I dont, hold much hope
[23:29] <vee_> pvl i get an error when i get back form hibernation
[23:30] <pvl> vee_ saying?
[23:30] <aleka> j #ubuntuzilla
[23:30] <emmet> i swear apple puts a timer in em or something...same happened to my friend...very sudden
[23:30] <Pelo> flush,  take it to your purchase point maybe they can do someting
[23:30] <Pelo> aleka, /join ...
[23:30] <aleka> Pelo:  My fault... forgot the /
[23:30] <z0r1> I have VMWare Server on Ubuntu 7.10. How can I let a VMWare File server access all 4 of my 500gb hard drives? Right now when I tried to add one of the hard drives I get "Insufficient permission to create file"
[23:30] <flush> yea probably but im not going to pay for this anymore..
[23:30] <flush> what reliable player do you recommand
[23:30] <aleka> anyways... looks like they do not have a support channel on freenode
[23:30] <flush> zen ?
[23:30] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone know how to convert a MP3 to MPEG or MPG to upload to Youtube?
[23:30] <vee_> pvl Sleep Problem. Your comp. failed to hibernate. Check the help...
[23:31] <Pelo> z0r1,  ask in #vmware
[23:31] <emmet> archos is good for video
[23:31] <Sam-laptop> Can someone help me with X configuration issues?
[23:31] <flush> i dont listen videos
[23:31] <Sam-laptop> I have a Thinkpad T60 with a fresh install of Gutsy
[23:31] <flush> only mp3z
[23:31] <Pelo> flush, just for music,  get any usb flash mp3 player, I like hte pearl series from rca
[23:31] <pvl> vee_ im doubtfull thats related to your swap, im not too much of a specialist on it, if at all, but from what i know is that swap is just like a pay up for ram
[23:31] <arlbee> ex-chat
[23:31] <Kr0ntab> Sam-laptop: whats the problem
[23:31] <Sam-laptop> I installed fglrx and can't get X to run at 1400x1050, which is the native resolution of the T60 panel.
[23:32] <flush> nah.. i used to have an usb key with a jack to listen to music and it didnt enjoy it much
[23:32] <flush> the only reason i liked my ipod
[23:32] <flush> is because the audio output volume was very loud
[23:32] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone on the MP3 to MPG converstion?
[23:32] <Kr0ntab> Sam-laptop: what vid card does it have?
[23:32] <Sam-laptop> Radeon Mobility X1400 128MB.
[23:32] <emmet> flush: get a philips cheap and works
[23:32] <vee_> pvl hummm. i have the 4 gbs... it seems to me that swap is just like virtual memory.... which i thought was for people who didnt have enough RAM
[23:32] <Pelo> flush, have you damaged you earing yet ? you could probably sue apple and get another ipod
[23:32] <flush> haha
[23:32] <flush> yea good idea
[23:33] <emmet> ha
[23:33] <Sam-laptop> I got the necessary modeline from the LCD's EDID and put it in xorg.conf
[23:33] <Kr0ntab> well before trying to get fglrx and stuff working... has the resolution ever worked?
[23:33] <flush> anyways screw them newbies.. imma go eat bbiab thanks for help folks
[23:33] <Toaster`> tcpdumpgod: try memcoder, I *think* you can specify a static image source... though I'm not certain
[23:33] <Pelo> g'night
[23:33] <Sam-laptop> Kr0ntab: Yes, it worked before I had to reinstall because my cat knocked a glass of water on the laptop and broke the hard drive.
[23:33] <EADG__> Can somebody tell me why i have ~40 of these running? /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[23:33]  * Pelo goes looking for munchies 
[23:33] <pvl> vee_ indeed thats how i understand it, but i dont see why that would have anything to do with hibernating, from what i remmeber, hibernating stores all the files into ur virtual memory and kinda chills
[23:33] <Pelo> EADG__, do you keep turning to the consol to start stuff ?
[23:34] <Sam-laptop> The old install was an upgrade from Feisty, and I had fglrx 8.42.3 installed from the ATI installer.
[23:34] <pvl> vee_, i dont think you need a lot
[23:34] <Kr0ntab> Sam-laptop: ah... okay... so this is a fresh install of gutsy...?
[23:34] <Sam-laptop> Yes.
[23:34] <Sam-laptop> I ran the latest ATI installer to build packages to install fglrx
[23:34] <EADG__> Pelo: hmm, I have screen running in Terminal.
[23:34] <vee_> pvl can i use gparted to do it?
[23:34] <At0mic_PC> Let's say I have some digital photos of my kids and some aunts that live in another state. I'd like to make a DVD that they could view the photos on with a custom menu. Have a NEXT and PREVIOUS for each image. How would I begin that?
[23:34] <vee_> pvl i have no swap at the moment
[23:35] <pvl> vee_ , yea u can, thats how i did it
[23:35] <kitche> vee_: you can make a swapfile if you wish instead of doing a repartition your hard drive
[23:35] <jbur1> What's the problem with the Broadcom bcm43xx driver module for Ubuntu?  As soon as wireless is turned on, NetworkManager causes a keyboard lockup.
[23:36] <jbur1> Architecture:  amd64
[23:36] <vee_> kitche ... if there no drawbacks to using a file instead I would like to know how to do that
[23:36] <kitche> jbur1: nothing is wrong with the driver just that NetworkManager isn't the stablest program
[23:36] <slugone> okay when ever i download znes from the add/remove it works fine the first time then the next time i use it.....it pops up and goes away
[23:36] <EADG__> next question... what does this do and why is it eating up all my cpu time? /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[23:36] <DaRc> ip.org
[23:36] <vee_> kitche rather not waste HD space if i dont have to
[23:36] <jbur1> kitche, can I remove NetworkManager?
[23:36] <Sam-laptop> EADG: X is the graphics system of Linux.
[23:36] <jbur1> kitche, last time I removed NetworkManager, it hosed my GNOME installation.
[23:37] <Sam-laptop> You can turn it off, but you won't have a graphic interface. ;)
[23:37] <kitche> jbur1: not sure I never used network manager myself
[23:37] <jbur1> Panels disappeared.
[23:37] <linxeh> vee_: you have 4GB ram, and you are worrying about hard drive space? how big is your hdd ?
[23:37] <jbur1> What do you use?
[23:37] <EADG__> thanks Sam-laptop
[23:37] <Pelo> EADG__, I'm thinking you got xserver running with stuff on it and is very demanding but it 's not being used so you donT' notice it working cause you keep going into console to turn stuff on
[23:37] <vee_> linxeh hehehe 2 x 500
[23:37] <linxeh> vee_: ... :)
[23:37] <Sam-laptop> jbur1: NetworkManager tends to just plain suck. :)
[23:37] <vee_> linxeh can you tell me how to repartition with gparted?
[23:37] <linxeh> vee_: just delete an illegally downloaded film or two :)
[23:37] <jbur1> How do I just get rid of it.
[23:37] <Sam-laptop> Anyway, any X whizzes in the house?
[23:38] <kitche> jbur1: myself I use ifconfig and iwconfig
[23:38] <linxeh> vee_: fraid not - I've never needed to repartition without reinstalling
[23:38] <vee_> linxeh hehehe... i haver no files on it right now... gonna use it as a server
[23:38] <Pelo> linxeh, "THEY" will still come after him
[23:38] <EADG__> Pelo: Your right, I'm more of a cli guy, been poking around in X playing with Compbiz.
[23:38] <vee_> Pelo =)
[23:38] <At0mic_PC> vee_: I used it once to resize a partition. It was pretty straight forward.
[23:38] <erickjime> bonjour
[23:38] <slugone> znes when i open it ...it pops up then vanishes any ideas on how to fix this
[23:39] <erickjime> j'ai installé
[23:39] <Pelo> bonsoir erickjime
[23:39] <erickjime> ce soir gutsy
[23:39] <EADG__> ... time to upgrade. Thanks guuys.
[23:39] <Pelo> !fr | erickjime
[23:39] <ubotu> erickjime: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:39] <vee_> At0mic_ i have it open
[23:39] <quittt> happy new year!!!
[23:39] <erickjime> ouai je sais
[23:39] <erickjime> jy suis dejà allai
[23:39] <erickjime> merci
[23:39] <quittt> feliz ano NOVOO
[23:39] <vee_> At0mic_PC but resiuze is not an option
[23:39] <Pelo> erickjime, c'est juste qu'ici c'est un canal en anglais
[23:39] <vee_> i have a lock icon on both drives
[23:39] <erickjime> A
[23:39] <erickjime> ok
[23:39] <vee_> do i need root access?
[23:40] <erickjime> i speak a little english..
[23:40] <Pelo> vee_, you need to unmount them first
[23:40] <At0mic_PC> vee_: I did it when I first installed ubuntu.
[23:40] <vee_> Pelo ... ok i will do that
[23:40] <Pelo> erickjime, try it and we will see if we can help you , if not , i'll try and joing you in -fr so we can do it in french
[23:40] <corinth> Having trouble getting my wireless internet to work. I have the driver enabled in the restricted drivers section, but I can't figure out how to enable/search for a wireless network. Help!
[23:41] <erickjime> dslétu peu écrir 2second en francais j'ai rien compri
[23:41] <erickjime> ^^
[23:41]  * Pelo cries , erickjime  is a wannadoo user,  the french AOL
[23:41] <erickjime> j'ai 15ans..
[23:41] <vee_> Pelo it gave me an error about Not a good idea since its munted : /
[23:41] <Pelo> erickjime, va a #ubuntu-fr et je vais te rejoindre
[23:41] <vee_> Peol but now its doing it anyway
[23:41] <erickjime> commen on fai?
[23:41] <Pelo> vee_,  you cannot unmount a wroking partition, you 'll need to boot the live cd to do it
[23:41] <Pelo> erickjime, /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:42] <vee_> Pelo..... uh oh
[23:43] <Sam-laptop> Any suggestions on how to get fglrx to display the right resolution?
[23:43] <Sam-laptop> Better yet, is there a way to get GNOME to not touch xorg.conf?
[23:44] <Sam-laptop> It seems that GNOME keeps rewriting my xorg.conf and this is part of the problem with display resolution.
[23:44] <vee_> Pelo... if I want to reinstall.... how much swap should i have?
[23:44] <Pelo> vee_,  2x ram
[23:44] <kitche> vee_: how much ram do you have?
[23:44] <vee_> 4bg of RAM
[23:44] <emmet> nice
[23:44] <Pelo> vee_,  if you are gonna reinstall and make all your partition manualy consider putting yoru /hom efolder on a seperate aprtition
[23:45] <vee_> heheh gbs
[23:45] <kitche> vee_: 512 megs should be enough unless you do suspend and hibranate
[23:45] <aleka> I am trying to get Samba to work so I can see a windows PC I have connected on the same router. A previous link given to me (https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html) was not really helpful, or I didn't understand it... can anyone give me the basics or point me to a good howto? I am not trying to achieve anything complicated.. just want to copy some pictures and music have on my Ubuntu machine onto the windows one.
[23:45] <Pelo> vee_,  so that is 8 gig for swap , sounds a bit much, stick to 4
[23:45] <linxeh> definitely put /home on a separate
[23:45] <linxeh> Pelo: I've got 128GB of swap on one of our boxes :)
[23:45] <oakxx> aleka scp
[23:45] <oakxx> ftp.ssh.com to get a nice ssh ftp gui client in windows
[23:46] <Pelo> linxeh,  why would you do something like that ?
[23:46] <Toaster`> aleka: Make sure the firewall is allowing SMB shares on the Win box
[23:46] <requ13m>  /nick [Dev]Requiem
[23:46] <linxeh> Pelo: because it needs it ?
[23:46] <qwazz> is there a way to combine .ts files via the command line?
[23:46] <aleka> oakxx: I wanted to see if there were any basic direction of setting a typical smb network
[23:46] <oakxx> try smb4k as a nice solid samba browser
[23:46] <vee_> Pelo what was that about the home folder??? right now its on my drive that only has one partition
[23:46] <Pelo> linxeh, what the heck are you running on that box ?
[23:46] <linxeh> Pelo: data mining
[23:46] <vee_> the second drive is mounted in /media
[23:46] <linxeh> Pelo: the live machines have 2TB ram (and dont run Linux)
[23:47] <Pelo> vee_,  if you put your /home on a seperate partiton and need to reisntall ubuntu you wonT, have to worry about backing up your data
[23:47] <deadcake> happy new year eveyrone
[23:47] <aleka> Toaster`: would that also mean the two machines will be able to see each other on the network? and how do I check the firewall settings for SMB shares?
[23:47] <linxeh> deadcake: 10 mins yet :)
[23:47] <vee_> Pelo I have no data on the machine at all
[23:47] <Pelo> vee_,  my sys is 10 gig ext3 for / , 2 gig for swap and the rest for /home
[23:47] <deadcake> linxeh i'm in a different timezone xD
[23:47] <Pelo> vee_,  and will you never have data on it in the future ?
[23:47] <linxeh> deadcake: yeah, but the world uses UTC, and new year is in approx 12 minutes, UTC
[23:48] <linxeh> :)
[23:48] <deadcake> ok
[23:48] <linxeh> where are you ?
[23:48] <vee_> Pelo I will but each user backs up on each drive
[23:48] <emmet> the internet
[23:48] <vee_> manually of course
[23:48]  * Pelo has a little over 3 hrs to go until the event 
[23:48] <Toaster`> aleka: Depends on the WinVersion.  I had a hell of a time arranging SMB shares with a Vista rig.  The Ubuntu box worked great, the problems were on the Win sides
[23:48] <vee_> vee is looking at the glass
[23:49] <Pelo> vee_, it was just a suggestion
[23:49]  * linxeh just wishes new year was well and truely over so his dogs stopped being so scared of the bangs from fireworks
[23:49] <aleka> Toaster`: AS it is now, the Ubuntu can not see any other machine on the network, neither can the winbox
[23:49] <vee_> Pelo im just trying to understand what you are saying not trying to change it
[23:49]  * Pelo thinks it mght be a kindness for linxeh  to put his dogs to sleep 
[23:49] <vee_> hehehe
[23:49] <linxeh> Pelo: I think it might be kindness for the dogs if I put the people with the fireworks to sleep
[23:49]  * linxeh gets his gun 
[23:50] <Pelo> vee_,  well this works well when the computer in question will be used to work on by users,   and their data and settings saved to it and not elsewhere
[23:50] <linxeh> having seen what terror it causes on cows and sheep, I think they should be banned
[23:51] <vee_> Pelo so your home it spread out between two drives?
[23:51] <Toaster`> aleka: you do have folders shared on the computers?
[23:51] <Pelo> vee_,  not between two drives ( altho this can be done to ) , but the same drive on another partiton
[23:51] <tbuss> is there a way to 'print' a list of a ll my installed apps for use after a reinstall?
[23:51] <aleka> the basic sheduled tasks and shared printers folders
[23:51] <dgjones> !cloning | tbuss
[23:51] <ubotu> tbuss: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[23:51] <ryushe_> greetings, I just bought a new videocard (GF8800 GT). X wouldn't start anymore, so I changed the driver to vesa as nv didn't work. Now in Gnome, when doing the restricted driver manager, it says I don't need any drivers, but the nvidia driver doesn't work :/
[23:51]  * dolphin_noel happy new year :)
[23:52] <Pelo> vee_, basicaly if /when you reinstal linux,  the / partiton gets formated, putting your /home on a seperate partiton doens,t format your data
[23:52] <Pelo> and setting s
[23:52]  * dolphin_noel boas entradas bom ano
[23:52]  * Pelo thinks those new year ppl are almost as annoying as those religious nuts last week 
[23:52] <Sam-laptop> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of fglrx 8.42.3?
[23:52] <zetheroo> how do you listen to streaming news in Ubuntu?
[23:52] <vee_> Pelo and if something goes wrong you're saying that you just put in the live cd and you can access the files.... oh you can just use the mountpoint for your home folder as a partition and it wont reformat the data thats already on it?
[23:52] <Pelo> Sam-laptop, google
[23:53] <Pelo> vee_,  basicaly
[23:53] <someday> hey guys how do i uninstall ubuntu and install gentoo plz??
[23:53] <Sam-laptop> someday: go ask the Gentoo people
[23:53] <emmet> haha
[23:53] <stemount> i agree with Sam-laptop
[23:53] <Pelo> vee_,  you use /home as a mount point for the partition your /home stuff is on
[23:53] <someday> they don't know how to uninstall ubuntu
[23:53] <tbuss> dgjones, thank you
[23:53] <emmet> couldnt u just install over
[23:53] <someday> they only know about gentoo
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> someday: just write over it
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> and why do you want Gentoo?
[23:54] <someday> Sam-laptop, how doi do that
[23:54] <Pelo> vee_,  this partition can actualy be anywhere,  different drive, different computer over a network if you want it
[23:54] <someday> gentoo is cool
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> no it isn't
[23:54] <someday> i heard somewhere
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> you spend half your time recompiling your system
[23:54] <someday> i have 4 cores
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> That is the single dumbest reason to change operating systems ever.
[23:54] <emmet> yeah
[23:54] <someday> its kay
[23:54] <Pelo> Sam-laptop, genntoo, is a good learning distro,  you have no choice to learn
[23:54] <jgoo> Happy New Year to everyone east of GMT !! (or west of GMT, but still GMT+)
[23:54] <emmet> gentoo is the antithesis of user-friendly
[23:54] <Sam-laptop> Pelo: Not really
[23:54] <zetheroo> anyone?
[23:54] <emmet> i tried it
[23:55] <vee_> Pelo you can sopeicfy this during installation?  I just tol it two big partitions: one / and the other /media
[23:55] <Sam-laptop> What you learn from Gentoo is how to search their forums for instructions on fixing Portage's latest fuckup
[23:55] <someday> i dont like ubuntu as it gives me a little of thinking and hacking
[23:55] <jgoo> I just won 800 euros playing poker, wooohoooo I am happy. best 2 hours of pay :-)
[23:55] <Pelo> zetheroo,  if yo donT' get an answer ask again, you are not being ignored, just not being noticed
[23:55] <Pelo> vee_,  you can do tha tduring install yes,   just use manual partitionning
[23:55] <ploom> Happy New Year!
[23:55] <Sam-laptop> I had Gentoo on a desktop of mine once. I spent most of my time rebuilding packages because Portage had gone and replaced one of their dependencies
[23:55] <stemount> I prefer the printing management in 7.04 to 7.10 :(
[23:56] <zetheroo> Pelo: I am just wondering how I can watch or listen to streaming new in Ubuntu
[23:56] <Sam-laptop> stemount: I preferred a lot of things in Feisty to things in Gutsy
[23:56] <someday> Sam-laptop, never had such an issue
[23:56] <emmet> zotero: with a plugin in firefox
[23:56] <Sam-laptop> someday: You will!
[23:56] <stemount> indeed Sam-laptop Fiesty was such a good OS
[23:56] <Pelo> vee_,  it will be the same as with your /media partiton,  you will just tell it to mount to /home ,  btw,  bad idea using a prtiton called /media, there is already a /media folder in ubuntu it is used fo make moutpoints for removable media
[23:56] <stemount> rock solid
[23:56] <Sam-laptop> Gutsy has broken my graphics driver, my power management...
[23:57] <someday> Sam-laptop, so u suggest me staying with ubuntu?
[23:57] <Pelo> zetheroo, mplayer-mozilla usualy does it well enought or you cna probably put a url in rhytmbox
[23:57] <vee_> Pelo thanx.....no i didnt use that name
[23:57] <vee_> Peolo i wrote that wrong
[23:57] <Sam-laptop> someday: Well, at least, anything other than Gentoo
[23:57] <osmosis> what part of the ubuntu installer adds the admin group for sudo ?
[23:57] <Pelo> vee_, personnaly , I have another  partitioon I use for download mounted to /home/jean/download
[23:57] <someday> Sam-laptop, slackware?
[23:57] <Sam-laptop> Dunno, I haven't used slackware
[23:58] <zetheroo> Pelo; where in Rythymbox?
[23:58] <someday> i think i'd like to try
[23:58] <Sam-laptop> personally I prefer apt/deb to any other package management system, portage/ports included
[23:58] <Pelo> Sam-laptop, puppy linux is very popular with the in crowd these days
[23:58] <vee_> Pelo I will post to the paste site... can i forward you that link in a minute?
[23:58] <Sam-laptop> Haven't heard of it
[23:58]  * Sam-laptop dislikes the distro-of-the-month club anyway
[23:58] <Pelo> zetheroo, try  file > open > isnT' there a url thingy in there ?
[23:58] <someday> well okay thanks anyways
[23:58]  * marsmissions thinks slackware is great if you like a rock solid system
[23:58] <zetheroo> Pelo: there is no File menu
[23:58] <Pelo> zetheroo, under music,  new flux podcast or someting
[23:59]  * marsmissions thinks slackware is bad if you have no clue how to compile software
[23:59] <emmet> ztheroo: mplayer works for me to sudo apt-get install mplayer-mozilla should do the trick
[23:59]  * Sam-laptop reinstalls fglrx 8.42.3 because it just freaking worked
[23:59] <Pelo>   marsmissions I agree that slackware is not for the faint of heart or newbies
[23:59] <marsmissions> sam-laptop: try 7.11
[23:59] <marsmissions> pelo: i used it when i was a newbie