[00:08] <Aquahallic> evenin' folks
[00:09] <Aquahallic> anyone else had any probs trying to do a frontend only install to HD with 7.10??
[00:19] <directhex> john__, garbage in, garbage out
[00:25] <tgm4883> Aquahallic, errors?
[00:49] <john__> well it seems my main issue is the fact that i'm using a via chipset mainboard and a hauppuage card
[00:50] <directhex> can be an issue on old via chipsets
[01:00] <Aquahallic> yeah.... I've tried to do the frontend only install several times... as soon as it gets to the "configuring mythtv" portion... it says the installer crashed... and gives me some error codes
[01:02] <laga> Aquahallic: does it ask you to file a bug?
[01:02] <Aquahallic> would a frontend only install bomb if I don't have my backend running?
[01:02] <Aquahallic> yeah... it does
[01:03] <Aquahallic> I tried to backout and then reboot hoping the OS itself would come up so I could get the files it says... but it won't boot into the OS
[01:03] <Aquahallic> I guess I could boot it with a knoppix cd and pull it off like that
[01:03] <laga> well
[01:04] <laga> if it asks you to file a bug report
[01:04] <laga> please do so
[01:04] <laga> we can't fix it otherwise
[01:04] <Aquahallic> yup yup... I'll do that
[01:04] <laga> and a frontend only install should not break just because your backend is not running, i'd rule that out
[01:05] <laga> you can just open a terminal in the live cd to get those log files it mentions :)
[01:07] <Aquahallic> just a FYI.. it's a IBM think center 2.6 gig with 768 memory... I originally tried it with my GeForce 4 in.. tried the proprietary drivers.. bombed... then tried again with the open source generic... then I pulled the nvidia completely and tried it with the onboard intel... all same error
[01:08] <Aquahallic> let me ask this... if this machine doesn't have any capture cards in it... then it shouldn't be a slave backend... correct?
[01:08] <laga> does it work if you do a combined backend/frontend install?
[01:08] <laga> no
[01:08] <Aquahallic> it will do the combined fine
[01:09] <Aquahallic> no?
[01:09] <Aquahallic> I can have it as a slave backend if there's no capture cards in?
[01:09] <laga> oh
[01:09] <laga> now that you mention it
[01:09] <Aquahallic> slave backend with a frontend too
[01:09] <laga> that works just fine.
[01:09] <laga> slave backend w/o capture cards work fine
[01:09] <Aquahallic> what's the point though?
[01:09] <laga> but please file that bug report so we can fix it :)
[01:10] <Aquahallic> will the master backend pass off jobs?
[01:10] <laga> Aquahallic: well, you can use it for commercia flagging
[01:10] <laga> yes
[01:10] <laga> you might havhave to cionfigure it to do so, but i think it's configured by default to distribute jobs
[01:10] <Aquahallic> now.. let me ask you this then...
[01:10] <Aquahallic> yeah.. there's an option to run on originating or something like that
[01:11] <laga> transcoding will require you to mount your recordings on the slave backend via nfs (or cifs), IIRC
[01:11] <Aquahallic> yeah
[01:11] <Aquahallic> that was my question
[01:12] <Aquahallic> see.. I used to run knoppmyth
[01:12] <Aquahallic> too buggy though for me...:/
[01:12] <Aquahallic> I had it setup like this.....
[01:12] <Aquahallic> one master backend with my capture cards.....
[01:12] <Aquahallic> then a frontend only
[01:13] <Aquahallic> the frontend only mounted the media files folder via NFS share off the backend
[01:14] <Aquahallic> right now I've setup a master backend with a frontend also on it...
[01:14] <Aquahallic> I'm going to enable my var/lib/mythtv folder to be exported via NFS..
[01:15] <Aquahallic> so I can make another slave backend w/frontend and then mount that exported folder to it's /var/lib/mythtv and the backends will share the jobs??
[01:16] <Aquahallic> I think a 2.6 gig as a frontend only is a bit much anyways really....:P
[01:16] <laga> well.. i'd start mythtv-setup on the slave backend w/frontend and make sure the path to the recordings is corre.t
[01:16] <laga> correct*
[01:16] <Aquahallic> be nice if they'll load balance backend jobs...;)
[01:16] <laga> but that might just work
[01:16] <laga> if it doesnn'
[01:17] <laga> whoops, too dark to type properly.
[01:17] <laga> if it doesn't work, just ask in here or in the forums :)
[01:17] <Aquahallic> yeah... I've done it like that before..:)
[01:18] <Aquahallic> I just delete the empty folders under /var/lib/mythtv.. then setup fstab to mount it to an NFS share that's really my 500 gig drive on my backend
[01:18] <Aquahallic> that way I keep one point of management for my files..:)
[01:19] <Aquahallic> well... got company over... so... time to drink some beer.... I'll pull that log and fire it up as a bug... but I think I'mma try that slave backend w/ frontend solution
[01:19] <Aquahallic> that seems to install fine
[01:19] <Aquahallic> thanx for the insight...;)
[01:19] <laga> np
[01:19] <laga> time for me to go to bed
[01:20] <Aquahallic> happy new year all!!!
[01:20] <laga> is it 2008 yet for you? ;)
[01:20] <Aquahallic> not yet
[01:20] <laga> thanks, happy new year for you too
[01:20] <Aquahallic> 3.5 hrs. and counting
[01:20] <laga> well, greetings from the future then :)
[01:20] <Aquahallic> hahaha
[01:20] <laga> g'night
[01:45] <Daviey> laga: don't go yet
[03:02] <larson9999> i have mythbuntu set up and it's working great.  only problem is i can't see good enough on my tv to do anything on the desktop.  how do i connect to it remotely from my other computers?
[03:03] <larson9999> i mean connect to it so i can administer it not stream content
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> larson9999, you could ssh in
[03:12] <larson9999> tgm4883, is that set up by default?
[03:12] <tgm4883_laptop> i think so
[03:13] <larson9999> ok, i'm in
[03:22] <larson9999> tgm4883_laptop, can the remote control the mouse when not in 'media center' mode?
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> what are you trying to do?
[03:36] <larson9999> ssh works great
[03:38] <larson9999> tgm4883, just curious if the remote could control the mouse.  then i could setup some icons on the desktop and navigate and start t hem with the remote.  taking it to the next, it could be used to type like it is in mythtv.  not trying to do anything just wondering.
[03:38] <tgm4883_laptop> i dont believe you can
[03:42] <larson9999> where do you add podcasts?  i see the ones already in there but now how to add them
[03:43] <larson9999> i'll rtfm :)
[04:45] <slestak> is it easy to add a new tuner card to an exisitng mythbox install?  Ive got a tuner card on the way, but do not want to wait to install for my other recorded content.
[04:55] <john__> well my lockup was due to the via chipset on the motherboard. Had an amd setup with the sis chipset and so far i've been watching tv for 1 hour
[04:56] <john__> next ? how do i link to another computer? I have a gusty box which i store most of my movies on how would i add them under media library?
[04:57] <tgm4883_laptop> john__, do you have a henway?
[04:58] <tgm4883_laptop> john__, the best way to do that is probably to make an NFS share on the host computer, then mount it on the frontend computer and point the mythvideo at it
[04:59] <john__> henway?
[04:59] <tgm4883_laptop> nm
[05:00] <john__> any good docs on that?
[05:01] <tgm4883_laptop> perhaps the manual on mythbuntu.org or on ubuntuguide.org
[05:01] <john__> ok thanks
[06:17] <john__> with vnc enabled how would i access it from a remote computer?
[11:26] <mung> Hallo!
[11:27] <mung> Happy new year!
[11:27] <mung> anybody online now who uses mythbuntu 7.10?
[11:29] <mung42> I boot from the cd, my system is connected to the tv via Nvida Graphiccard. I see the startscreen. If i select "Install" the screen will go black an nothing else happens.
[14:26] <laga> mung42: boot in "safe graphics mode"
[14:27] <mung42> Hi laga. How shud i do this? Ther is no bootoption for this
[14:30] <laga> oh.
[14:31] <laga> mung42: it might be possible by appending vga=normal to the boot options. or by removing "splash". not sure how to do that from the CD. might i suggest you con nect that box to a regular monitor instead? tv-out on nvidia card is only really supported by their proprietary drivers which can't be used during boot-up
[14:34] <mung42> ok. the best i try with a normal lcd first
[14:34] <laga> john__: you'd use a vnc client :)
[15:20] <hasse> does anyone knows anything about then mythstream will be updated in the weekly trunk ? .. when i want to start it' problems with lĺibmyth is in woŕong verion
[15:21] <laga> hasse: i'm working on it as we speak
[15:21] <hasse> great....
[15:22] <hasse> really missed it yesterday evening :-)
[15:22] <laga> :)
[15:22] <hasse> hey, im running mythtv on a amd dual core 4800+ cpu with 3 gb ram, but when i watch hd-quality 1080 resolution recordings, the sound scatters (?) a lot, and the pictures sometimes do the same
[15:22] <laga> i'm glad some people actually use it :)
[15:24] <hasse> ohhh, i think it's really great ...
[15:29] <laga> it's a bit weird to use
[15:34] <hasse> yearh, the way to use it, is a little odd
[15:36] <hasse> are you the author of it ?
[15:36] <laga> no
[15:37] <hasse> okay, it would be nice if it was like the mythmusic plugin, where you can exit the plugin, and still listen to the stream
[15:37] <hasse> cd blo
[15:37] <hasse> :)
[15:37] <hasse> ups
[15:38] <laga> well, that's pretty new in mythmusic :)
[15:38] <Dr_willis> bash: cd: blo: No such file or directory
[15:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[15:38] <laga> sudo
[15:43] <hasse> laga, yes, but really needed
[15:44] <Dr_willis> The more ive been playing with my Wii,. the more i think.. It would be so COOL if MythTV had a similer  interface where ya could point at the screen and click the buttons. :)
[15:44] <laga> Dr_willis: maybe linuxmce is similar to what you want :)
[15:45] <Dr_willis> Of course right now.. the tv dont have a mythtv box on it. :P
[15:45] <Dr_willis> its the 24/7 Wii Bowling Machine  for now.
[16:03] <john__> how can i tell if vnc is running on a mythtv box?
[16:03] <john__> everytime i try to connect i get service not running
[16:04] <laga> how do you try to connect?
[16:04] <john__> using krdc
[16:04] <john__> 192.168.1.102:1
[16:05] <laga> try :0 ?
[16:06] <john__> Connection failed. No server running at the given address and port.
[16:06] <laga> is it enabled in the control centre?
[16:06] <john__> yes
[16:07] <john__> and for some odd reason a linux box can't ping the mythtv box but a windows pc can
[16:08] <laga> well, can you put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin?
[16:09] <john__> not easily
[16:09] <laga> too bad
[16:09] <john__> i will c what i can do and get back to u
[16:09] <laga> close mythfrontend, open firefox, go to pastebin.ca, click "upload a file"?
[16:10] <laga> use sftp?
[16:10] <john__> ok
[16:20] <john__> laga done there both under lime4x4
[16:20] <laga> what's lime4x4?
[16:21] <john__> my poster name
[16:21] <laga> in the forums?
[16:21] <john__> it asked for a poster name at pastebin.ubuntu.com
[16:21] <laga> ah
[16:22] <laga> ah
[16:22] <laga> how do i get to your posting?
[16:23] <john__> good question
[16:25] <john__> cause the address u gave me nothing comes up so i went to the one listed on top of the chat board here
[16:25] <laga> i guess you were supposed to give me the URL to your postings ;)
[16:25] <laga> never used the ubuntu pastebin before
[16:25] <john__> ok give me a few
[16:28] <john__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3178
[16:29] <john__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3176
[16:35] <john__> were u able to view them?
[16:36] <laga> john__: i'll check them later, i'm fighting with mythstream at the moment :/
[16:36] <john__> ok
[16:36] <john__> and thanks
[16:38] <lucas2> hey. I installed mythbuntu, and under "remote", I select "Hauppauge TV Card". (I have a pvr350 and a pvr250).  only two buttons of the remote seem to work. Does anybody know what remote I should select from the list?
[16:39] <laga> lucas2: should be right
[16:39] <laga> i don't know much about lirc, though
[16:40] <lucas2> doh. I was hoping going for mythbuntu would mean not having to deal with stuff like this anymore :(..  ah well, guess the config file fiddling days aren't over yet.
[16:40] <Dr_willis> isent there like 4 differnt hauppage remotes? I recall some mythtv isntaller, asking once if i had a silver, or dogbone, or somthing else.. one..
[16:41] <Dr_willis> I found the remote control to be sluggish. I got a nice wireless keyboard i use now. ;)
[16:41] <lucas2> I have a silver one.  Nothing in the mythbuntu installation asked me about a color..  it is asking me to pick one from a list.
[16:41] <Dr_willis> I may be thinking of the knoppmyth installer then.
[16:41] <lucas2> it does show (grayed out) that it will use the lirc_dev and lirc_i2c modules, which were the ones that used to work when this machine was a gentoo myth box.
[16:42] <laga> lucas2: did you check with irw?
[16:43] <lucas2> laga: wow, good tip.   it receives all button presses just fine..  with the exact names as well.
[16:43] <lucas2> great, that means the hardest part is actually working.
[16:43] <laga> lucas2: then you need to check the "create application-specific bindings" button in the control centre
[16:44] <laga> and re-apply those settings.
[16:44] <laga> the most important buttons should be working then
[16:44] <lucas2> laga: that doesn't seem to be an option in my control center.
[16:45] <lucas2> I get "generate dynamic button mappings"
[16:45] <laga> lucas2: that's what i meant
[16:45] <lucas2> k, trying..
[16:45] <laga> it's been some time since i looked at those options :)
[16:45] <lucas2> np :)
[16:46] <lucas2> strange..  Ch- always selects the top item from the menu, Ch+ always selects the bottom item from the menu...  the ok button works as an "enter" button, but none of the other buttons do anything.
[16:46] <laga> i bet the number buttons will work
[16:47] <laga> it's a bit hard to support those hauppauge remotes
[16:47] <laga> see, we use some clever regular expressions and stuff to create lircrc files from lircd.conf files, it's not perfect for all remotes :)
[16:48] <lucas2> laga: you're right on the numbers.. if I go to a text entry box, the numbers work.
[16:48] <lucas2> k, this looks like a nice opportunity to contribute then.
[16:48] <laga> :)
[16:48] <laga> there are some bug reports for that already
[16:49] <laga> look for bug reports against mythbuntu-lirc-generator in launchpad
[16:51] <lucas2> its strange, in ~/.lircrc  it shows Ch+ is mapped to "Up"..  and Ch- is mapped to "Down"..   irw shows my up and down buttons are interpeted as "Ch+" and "Ch-", yet their behaviour seems not to correspond in myth.
[16:52] <lucas2> the "Up" myth command does not mean "go to the top option in the menu" right?
[16:52] <laga> it's probably mapped to pgup as well
[16:52] <laga> (page up)
[16:56] <lucas2> nope, it's not. (at least, not in ~/.lircrc)   Ch+ on hauppauge_pvr (which is the name of the remote reported in irw), only maps to Up.  The only other binding is on key-next, but that's for program=vlc
[16:56] <laga> lucas2: check ~/.mythtv/lircrc as well
[16:57] <lucas2> same story...  do you know how these two files relate? why do we have 2 ?
[17:00] <laga> i think ~/.mythtv/lircrc is checked first then ~/.lircrc
[17:00] <laga> dunno why we have two, but it'll be "fixed" for hardy :)
[17:01] <lucas2> cool.  fixed upstream, or patched?
[17:01] <laga> oh. it's not a problem with mythtv, it's just what mythbuntu-lirc-generator does :)
[17:02] <laga> if you tell it to do it
[17:02] <lucas2> ah k.  it's funny though, since the files are not identical, but very similar.
[17:03] <lucas2> I'll try to grab a lircrc file from the web somewhere.
[17:03] <laga> i'd expect that ~/.mythtv/lircrc does not contain the vlc stuff
[17:03] <lucas2> right.
[17:22] <laga> john__: just took a look at your pastebins
[17:23] <laga> john__: your xorg.conf looks correct. but vnc does not show up in xorg.log
[17:24] <laga> john__: can you file a bug and link to those files? (or attach them)
[17:24] <laga> john__: something is going wrong but i'm the wrong person to ask. superm1 might know what's happening
[17:49] <john__> will do
[19:03] <Cackette> Hey guys. Is there any reason why I can't get MythBuntu to set 1920x1080px?
[19:04] <Cackette> i have a 1080P tv, and the options past 1280x720px dont work
[19:05] <laga> what VGA card and driver do you use?
[19:06] <Cackette> nvidia 6600, and the open source nvidia one that mythbuntu recommended
[19:06] <laga> try the closed source driver.
[19:06] <Cackette> its weird because it looks like it works, but it says it doesnt
[19:06] <laga> i suppose you're already using that :)
[19:07] <laga> who's "it"?
[19:07] <Cackette> it is 1920x1080
[19:07] <Cackette> and the other it is mythbuntu
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> whoa, the new year has changed laga
[19:08] <Cackette> i.e. i select 1920x1080, hit apply, the screen changes to some grey&black lines background w/ the cursor being an X, then like 10 secs later, mythbuntu reverts to 1280x720
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> Cackette, are you using the open or closed source driver
[19:08] <Cackette> i dont know
[19:08] <Cackette> whichever it recommended
[19:09] <Cackette> i think open
[19:11] <Cackette> should i try switching?
[19:20] <tgm4883_laptop> I use nvidia-glx with my 6100
[19:22] <directhex> what's the tv?
[19:27] <Cackette> samsung lnt4061f (40" 1080P LCD)
[19:28] <directhex> check the EDID data
[19:28] <Cackette> the what
[19:29] <rhp> Hi all... Recently I updated my VIA EPIA frontend / slave backend from MythDora 2.32 to mythbuntu 7.10. Since then, I've been trying to solve some strange problems with XvMC and lirc (possibly related). First I thought the problem was related to mythtv 0.20 (I was running 0.19 before), but after resurrecting mythdora and running 0.20 on that, everything looks ok. Could someone provide me with some pointers where to start digging?
[19:30] <laga> rhp: /var/log/mythtv/
[19:30] <laga> rhp: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:30] <directhex> Cackette, install hwinfo, and run "sudo hwinfo --monitor"
[19:30] <directhex> Cackette, many screens don't send valid mode data
[19:32] <rhp> laga: There are some error messages in the mythfrontend log file, which I've sent to the mythtv user mailing list, but no one seems to know what to do about it.
[19:32] <tgm4883_laptop> Cackette, how are you connecting the computer to the tv?
[19:32] <Cackette`> wow, that was fuckin weird
[19:32] <Cackette`> firefox BSOD'd my windows box
[19:33] <rhp> laga: After a discusssion on the openchrome list, I found out I was not using the openchrome drivers yet, so I installed them (should have been by default?), but that did not make it better. If anything it seems to be worse now.
[19:33] <rhp> The problem is, that in mythdora it is running fine, so the problem is not mythtv.
[19:33] <laga> maybe mythdora has special patches ;)) (though that's unlikely)
[19:34] <rhp> Also xine with XvMC is running fine (in mythbuntu) so the XvMC set-up seems to be ok.
[19:34] <laga> you didn't even describe what problems you were having..
[19:34] <rhp> Somewhere in the mythbuntu combo something screws things up.
[19:35] <rhp> Problem 1: the CPU is at nearly 100% (where it should be 45% or lower).
[19:35] <rhp> Problem 2: it seems as though lirc is very irresponsive.
[19:35] <rhp> Sometimes key-presses take > 10 sec. to get through.
[19:35] <tgm4883_laptop> Cackette, how are you connecting the computer to the tv?
[19:36] <rhp> But only when mythtv is running and in combination with skip/jump forwarde/backward.
[19:36] <laga> rhp: that might be related to the high cpu load
[19:36] <directhex> rhp, which theme are you using?
[19:37] <tgm4883_laptop> Cackette`, ^^^
[19:37] <Cackette`> oh
[19:37] <Cackette`> hi
[19:37] <tgm4883_laptop> Cackette`, also, what do you mean don't work.  Can you not select them, or do they show up garbled
[19:37] <rhp> directhex: Titivillus with isthmus for osd.
[19:37] <Cackette`> the 6600 has a DVI port, which i have a DVI->HDMI adapter connected
[19:37] <directhex> that's one option out
[19:38] <directhex> Cackette, and the EDID data is correct?
[19:38] <Cackette`> i dont know what EDID is
[19:38] <directhex> Cackette, i already told you how to check it.
[19:38] <Cackette`> my comp crashed
 Cackette, install hwinfo, and run "sudo hwinfo --monitor"
[19:38] <Cackette`> BSOD
 Cackette, many screens don't send valid mode data
[19:38] <Cackette`> ok
[19:38] <Cackette`> lemme go try that
[19:39] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, just checked, it does support that res over dvi
[19:42] <laga> rhp: that might be related to the high cpu load
[19:43] <laga> whoops
[19:43] <laga> send that twice, sorry
[19:44] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf is IRSeekBot?
[19:44] <laga> i seem to remember something...
[19:45] <laga> http://www.irseek.com/
[19:45] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, who brought it here?
[19:45] <laga> they.
[19:45] <laga> irseek.
[19:45] <laga> would you please show it the door?
[19:45] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[19:46] <laga> fucking idiots.
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> !language
[19:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:46] <laga> whoops.
[19:46] <laga> thought this was the other channel.
[19:46] <laga> *gently caress*ing idiots.
[19:47] <tgm4883_laptop> they could at least ask first
[19:47] <laga> hum
[19:47] <laga> looks like a strange host mask though
[20:08] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[20:11] <Aquahallic> I setup mythbuntu and then mounted my /var/lib/mythtv dir to my 500 gig drive with a xfs filesystem that houses all my media.... I also setup NFS and am exporting this dir out so I can mount my slave backend to see it also... when I try to mount the NFS share on the slave I'm getting... 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock'
[20:11] <Aquahallic> anyone else exporting a XFS filesystem that can maybe shed a little light on this??
[20:12] <rhp> Yes, I am doing the same without problems.
[20:12] <Aquahallic> hmmm
[20:12] <rhp> Are you sure that the slave uses the right parameters.
[20:12] <Aquahallic> you mean in fstab?
[20:13] <rhp> Looks like it doesn't recognise it was nfs mount.
[20:13] <rhp> was -> as
[20:13] <Aquahallic> yeah... let me show you the line in fstab
[20:13] <Aquahallic> 92.168.1.100:/mythtv /var/lib/mythtv nfs defaults,auto 0 0
[20:14] <rhp> How do you mount?
[20:14] <Aquahallic> that's 192.. I just missed the 1
[20:14] <Aquahallic> ??
[20:14] <Aquahallic> that's a line I have in my fstab to mount at boot
[20:14] <rhp> ah, ok. Could you try mounting now?
[20:15] <Aquahallic> I'll do a mount -a
[20:15] <Aquahallic> that'll run fstab
[20:15] <Aquahallic> sec
[20:15] <Aquahallic> same
[20:15] <rhp> Looks alright to me... sorry, I can't help you.
[20:16] <rhp> No logging at the server side?
[20:16] <Aquahallic> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.1.100:/mythtv,
[20:16] <Aquahallic>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:16] <Aquahallic>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[20:16] <Aquahallic>        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:16] <rhp> Are you sure you have nfs-client installed?
[20:16] <Aquahallic> I check dmesg and nothing
[20:16] <Aquahallic> ROTFLMA
[20:16] <Aquahallic> DING DING DING
[20:17] <Aquahallic> too many new years beers
[20:17] <Aquahallic> hahahah
[20:17] <Aquahallic> lemme check... i don't think I do now that you say that...LOL
[20:17] <Aquahallic> lemme look on the slave... I know server is setup on the master... lemme check the slave
[20:19] <Aquahallic> does the client come with nfs-common
[20:20] <rhp> dunno
[20:21] <rhp> Hm... dpkg -l *nfs* lists nfs-client as not-installed on my slave too, but I can do nfs mounts.
[20:22] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-common
[20:22] <Aquahallic> yeah... I just went to the package manager and I'm pulling down nfs-common
[20:22] <Aquahallic> it has portmap and all that as a dependancy... so it's getting it
[20:22] <Aquahallic> :)
[20:26] <Aquahallic> well... that was it...;)
[20:26] <Aquahallic> thanx for the help guys...:)
[20:26] <Aquahallic> mounted right up....:P
[21:37] <MythbuntuGuest78> Hi all, anyone play around with the Realtimer kernal much?
[21:48] <larson999> been using mythbuntu for about a week now and really like it.  but there's one problem.  when the things in the video(football players for instance) move quickly, there are horizontal lines on the outline of the quick moving object.  i'm curious if anyone knows what the cause might be.  i figure i could just start swapping/upgrading parts until it goes away but if you guys had ideas what it could be, maybe i'd save some time.
[21:48] <rhp> that would be interlacing artifacts.
[21:48] <larson999> oh, this behavior is only when i watch tv, not streaming video or video files.  those are perfect.
[21:49] <larson999> rhp, know how i improve the situation?
[21:50] <rhp> You can use filters to get rid of them. Enable one from the 'TV Settings -> Playback' menu in the setup screens.
[21:50] <larson999> thanks, i give it a try.
[21:50] <Dr_willis_> ive noticed that when watching videos. i occasionaly get a horizonatl line  sort of like when vsync is off in video games..
[21:51] <larson999> rhp, this is a low memory box(384mb).  would memory affect this.
[21:51] <Dr_willis_> Seen this on several machines/videos/players..   is it a vsync issue? or  just a quirk of video playback?
[21:51] <larson999> Dr_willis, when i watch video, it's perfect.
[21:51] <Dr_willis_> i only notice it on occasion. and even then only when im paying attention. :)
[21:52] <rhp> larson999: I do not know if memory is an issue. Be aware, though that filters require more CPU / GPU power.
[21:52] <Dr_willis_> I dont recall seeing it on tv-recorded show playback however. :0
[21:52] <larson999> Dr_willis, oh, then i wouldn't notice.  i never pay attention.
[21:53] <larson999> rhp it's a p4 1.5mgz with an nvidia mx440
[21:53] <rhp> larson999: ...which means little to me. Just try and see what happens.
[21:54] <larson999> rhp, as soon as the show i'm watching ends
[21:54] <rhp> Maybe on the wiki there is some info on de-interlace filters that you might want to browse through.
[22:05] <john__> so how do i get mythtv to use a remote folder? I have nfs installed on a linux box. How do i get mythtv to show it when clicking on media library?
[22:11] <rhpot1991> do you have the nfs share mounted somewhere on that box?
[22:16] <sjnovick> hi all.  i'm having trouble with mythgame.  it is not finding romDB in the mysql database.  Any help?
[22:26] <larson999> rhp, thanks.  the first one i tried, kernel, worked great!  so i got this up and doing great with a $10 pc from goodwill, $99 usb tuner, 2 old HDs that were collecting dust and a couple weekends of puttering around.  not bad.  now to keep it a secret before i'm setting up systems for the next year for friends and family.
[22:28] <rhp> larson999: glad to be any help
[22:28] <rhp> larson999: now, if you could only help me sort out the problems I'm having...
[22:29] <larson999> rhp, lol.  if it's mythtv related and not a problme i've had and solved, i likely won't be of help.
[22:29] <larson999> what's your problem
[22:30] <rhp> I'm using a VIA EPIA frontend with special hardware for mpeg2 decoding.
[22:31] <rhp> This worked fine in the past, but now that I've changed to mythbuntu, it runs at > 90% CPU most of the time.
[22:31] <rhp> (which it should not)
[22:32] <larson999> aha.  i have hardware decoding too.  haven't looked to see how much cpu it's using.  but i am able to log in from other machines and 'do stuff' while watching tv and don't notice an issue.
[22:33] <rhp> Then again, you have a p4.
[22:33] <larson999> i'm surprised i'm not having issues with only 384mb ram though.
[22:34] <larson999> rhp yeah but i was using a 700mgz p3 before this cause i thought it had a gig of ram.  turns out it only had 512mb so i swithed to the p4 with less ram to compare the 2 performance wise.
[22:35] <rhp> larson999: of the 450MB of available ram, my frontend only uses 332MB.
[22:35] <rhp> So 384 should be enough for a comparable setup.
[22:35] <larson999> rhp, oh, then i'm just under the wire :)
[22:36] <larson999> i think my wife, aka the one controlling the purse strings, is hooked already so i think i'll be able to upgrade components as the year goes on.
[22:37] <larson999> it was being able to watch the thai internet tv streams that one her over.
[22:38] <rhp> :)  I'm curious to see how my wife would react to thai TV.
[22:38] <larson999> rhp is she thai?
[22:39] <rhp> no, dutch
[22:41] <larson999> rhp, oh, well there's about a gazillion international channels in that list... culling out the rest is on my list of things to figure out
[22:41] <larson999> via?  i think i'm done with via unless they come on stuff given to me.
[22:42] <larson999> i think via is on equal footing as ati with me :)
[22:45] <larson999> i have a cable box with lots of channels.  the best i could figure was to use the cable box to change channels so that to mythtv it is like one channel.  is there a way for mythv to recognize the channels higher than 125?
[22:47] <rhp> larson999: it was practically given to me, and for the past 2 years it has served me well...
[22:47] <larson999> rhp, oh, that's different!
[22:47] <rhp> That'll teach me to try and update it to something more recent, software-wise.
[22:49] <larson999> rhp, i had one pc given to me.  took rimm.  holy cow that's expensive.  i ended up getting a cheap mobo for it and got cheap ram.  that's the via board i bought :)
[22:50] <rhp> rimm?
[22:52] <larson999> yeah, ram for rich people.  last i looked a gig was about $300+
[22:52] <directhex> larson999, for a while, it was more expensove to buy 128 meg of rambus than to buy a replacement sdr motherboard, 256mb of sdr for it, and a new cpu to fit it
[22:53] <larson999> directhex, yeah, rimm is rambus  and that was the situation.  i got a new mobo, 2 gig ram and saved money!
[22:54] <directhex> larson999, currently pricing up a new pc for the wife. eek, not cheap :(
[22:57] <Daviey> directhex: Don;t you trust her on yours :)
[22:57] <larson999> directhex, i picked up 4 gig ram for $120. at compusa a couple weeks ago, an amd 4800?, and mobo for $200 at a local shop.  had a case, and all sorts of drives at home.  i usually get old stuff and scrape on together.  so i got my first machine in a while.  the last new one i got cost $3000.  so all things considered, new isn't so expensive these days :)
[22:57] <directhex> Daviey, i'd quite like to use mine. but she's taken over it, as hers is a bit crashy when doing 3df
[22:58] <larson999> yeah, i'd have to get of mine for her to use it :)
[22:58] <larson999> and now there's my son.
[22:58] <larson999> i have 6 pcs to keep going/upgrade all the time!
[22:59] <directhex> definitely a hardware issue. i can't imagine the sims 2 on windows would have the same bug as nwn on linux...
[23:01] <larson999> what's 3df?
[23:07] <directhex> 3d
[23:07] <larson999> ok
[23:10] <larson999> directhex, just wait a year, the same pc will cost half as much :)