[04:41] <donspaulding> I'm looking to build a PXE boot server that can boot .iso's.  Is this possible or will I just be wasting my time?
[13:21] <kraut> moin
[13:32] <mikubuntu> guys, is webmin an integral/essential part of the lamp installation?  It failed to load from sourceforge, and now when i look at webmin homepage, it says its a unix program, but under downloads has a debian package.  ubuntu is debian, right?  should i download this one?
[13:33] <mikubuntu> i was following the instructions on this page: http://www.firehazrd.com/ubuntu/how-to-setup-lamp-on-ubuntu-710 , and as far as i know everything else loaded properly ...
[13:41] <Gh0sty> webmin is just an easy webinterface to manage your stuff but its certainly not essential
[13:41] <Gh0sty> i advise even against it since in the past it tended to break systems ... :|
[13:42] <Gh0sty> and security has never been very good with that, but ofcourse you need to have a bit of command line knowledge then to configure your stuff
[13:57] <mikubuntu> Gh0sty: what other program would fullfill the mission that you might recommend?  i just managed to download webmin with gdebi, and then i was going to install magento, which is a fairly new ecommerce app that looks pretty good to me, but i'm a newbie, so anything shiney always looks good to me :)
[13:59] <Gh0sty> have a look at ispconfig (but i have the impression the site is down for the moment, must be a Y2k8 problem ...)
[14:06] <mikubuntu_> hmmmmm.... i wonder if you would consider helping me download the proper file for magento install? this is the page: http://www.magentocommerce.com/download   and i'm not sure which package to select.
[14:08] <Gh0sty> tar.bz2 will do
[14:08] <Gh0sty> probably its only webinterface so does not really matter
[14:08] <Gh0sty> only different types of compression
[14:10] <mikubuntu_> so the bz2 is the one at the bottom of the ddropdown list; how do i unpack it once downloaded?
[14:11] <mikubuntu_> wait, there's two bz2 files; you mean the larger one that appears last on the drop down?
[14:11] <h00s> mikubuntu_: tar xvzf filename.tar.bz2 /destination-directory
[14:15] <mikubuntu_> ok, well i started to download to the desktop.  can you spell out the command i have to use?  i assume i have to sudo right?
[14:17] <h00s> if you will extracting to /var/www then you must use sudo, yes. if you extracting to Desktop, home dir etc then you don't have to use sudo
[14:18] <mikubuntu_> hmmm, so still i don't know what to do with the file
[14:19] <mikubuntu_> when i right click on the file on the desktop, it asks if i want to open with arcvhive mgr or another?
[14:20] <mikubuntu_> also '[extract here]' appears on right click
[14:25] <h00s> mikubuntu_: you must extract it and then move that extracted directory to /var/www. in /var/www are located web server files. since magentocom. is web application, it's must be located in that folder so the apache/php can serve it...
[14:29] <mikubuntu_> h00s: i extracted it on the desktop and now there's a folder icon there below the bz2 file that says 'magento' 10 items... is that the one you want me to move?  can you tell me how?
[14:31] <h00s> yes, that's the directory you have to move. to move it, type this in terminal: sudo mv ~/Desktop/magento /var/www
[14:31] <mikubuntu_> what's the BEST way to get the files where they need to go?  should i have not extracted to desktop?  should i trash that, and open the tar with anotther app?
[14:31] <mikubuntu_> ok, lemme try
[14:34] <mikubuntu_> should there have been any output in terminal?  do i need to check it?  din't see any output ...
[14:36] <mikubuntu_> i forgot how to cli check for file location
[14:36] <h00s> if there's no output, it's ok. there shouldn't be magento directory on desktop anymore..
[14:36] <mikubuntu_> ok, you
[14:37] <mikubuntu_> youre right, it's gone!
[14:37] <mikubuntu_> does that make me a developomer now?
[14:39] <h00s> :D
[14:39] <mikubuntu_> so, how do i make the whole thing launchable now?  it doesn't appear in menu yet... do i just have to launch magento, or do i have to start the whole LAMP every time i work on it?
[14:39] <h00s> all the way :)
[14:40] <mikubuntu_> i should call the bank and see if any money is pouring in yet
[14:40] <h00s> it's not application like other applications on your desktop. it's a web app so you have to "run" it from browser (http://localhost/magento). yes, you must have running apache+php and mysql to able to work on it.
[14:41] <mikubuntu_> ummmm.... so how to launch all of them if they don't appear on menu?
[14:41] <h00s> also, you must configure magento (connection to your mysql database etc.). since it is magento specific, i can't help it with that
[14:42] <h00s> look up :) "run" it from browser (http://localhost/magento)
[14:43] <mikubuntu_> ya, i'm gonna start studying all their forums more, but they din't have but five ppl in #magento ....
[14:44] <mikubuntu_> h00s: so when i 'launch' http://localhost/magento will it automagically start the LAMP features it requires, i.e., apache, mysql, php, etc...?
[14:46] <h00s> mikubuntu_: noup, it's starts automatically with server/computer if they are installed
[14:46] <mikubuntu_> guess not, i tried and it said 'magento not on this server'
[14:47] <mikubuntu_> so i have to configure magento to those components, but how do i do that if i can't launch it?
[14:48] <mikubuntu_> you're prolly busy, i guess i should stop torturing you with this drivel ...
[14:51] <h00s> yeah, sry i respond slow, working on something here. there's too much questions and it's quite difficult to answer it on irc. i suggest you search http://help.ubuntu.com, advanced topis, installing servers etc.
[15:01] <mikubuntu_> thanks for all your help.  was just studying the magento wiki, and i guess i'll go back to #magento and see if anybody showed up there yet.
[15:02] <mikubuntu_> oh, yeah, and i gotta call the bank.
[16:05] <J_5> how do i tell what version of packages i have installed? Like apache, php, etc?
[16:20] <nealmcb> J_5: apt-cache policy apache2
[16:21] <nealmcb> Happy New Year, All!!
[16:25] <J_5> nealmcb: thanks! and happy new year to you as well
[16:25] <nealmcb> :-)
[16:28] <J_5> if i apt-get remove a package, does that remove everything? including log files?
[16:32] <nealmcb> J_5: you need to also purge it to remove configuration files.  I'm not sure about log files
[16:34] <J_5> how do i purge it?
[16:55] <nealmcb> J_5: see "man apt-get"
[16:56] <J_5> nealmcb: ok thanks
[21:52] <Ubuntu-fr790> bonsoir
[21:57] <Buntix> quelqu'un ici ? :p