| Artimus | Did those new KDE4 packages "fix" KDE4 in Hardy? I lost my hardy virtual machine, so I'll be reinstalling tomorrow. I'm curious if I'll have KDE4 to look forward to. | 00:34 |
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| bardyr | !info linux-image-generic | 00:43 |
| ubotu | linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24.2.2 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB | 00:43 |
| bardyr | !info nvidia-glx-new | 00:44 |
| ubotu | nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.24.2-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB | 00:44 |
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| derekS | hi. has anyone else come across a problem with compiz crashing? The compiz.real package uses 100% of the cpu for a short time then the wm dies. i am using nvidia-glx-new (if that makes a difference) and everything is vanilla from the hardy repos. | 03:04 |
| crdlb | derekS: try disabling the animation plugin | 03:05 |
| derekS | crdlb: hmm, can you help me out with how? | 03:05 |
| crdlb | do you have ccsm installed? | 03:06 |
| derekS | crdlb: let me check, i typically don't play with compiz stuff because i don't care about effects | 03:06 |
| crdlb | !ccsm | 03:06 |
| ubotu | To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion | 03:06 |
| derekS | simple-ccsm is not installed | 03:06 |
| crdlb | the package name is 'compizconfig-settings-manager' | 03:07 |
| derekS | nope, i have a bunch of libconizconfig packages installed (2 of them) but none by that name | 03:08 |
| crdlb | so install it ... :) | 03:08 |
| derekS | haha | 03:08 |
| derekS | ok | 03:08 |
| derekS | but if its not installed, why would it be crashing? | 03:08 |
| crdlb | because the animation plugin (which is enabled by default) seems to cause lockups and such | 03:09 |
| crdlb | only on nvidia afaik | 03:10 |
| derekS | crdlb: now its making sense, and this just allows me to turn it off :) | 03:10 |
| crdlb | yeah | 03:10 |
| crimsun | crdlb: no, it's a known issue and is fixed in hardy. | 03:10 |
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| derekS | crimsun: i am using hardy.... and just did a full upgrade to make sure i am using latest | 03:11 |
| derekS | only thing that was kept back was epiphany, iirc | 03:11 |
| crimsun | derekS: does it match bug 175744? | 03:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 175744 in compiz "Hardy freezes when using compiz" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175744 | 03:12 |
| derekS | crimsun: checking | 03:13 |
| crdlb | that doesn't mean there's no another problem with animation :) | 03:13 |
| crdlb | not* | 03:13 |
| crimsun | crdlb: certainly not, which is why I'm interested in narrow it down | 03:14 |
| crimsun | narrowing* | 03:15 |
| derekS | crimsun: prob not the same bug, my system doesn't lock up... compiz usually just crashes | 03:15 |
| crdlb | derekS: is there something you're usually doing that causes it? | 03:15 |
| derekS | crdlb: no, its as soon as i log into gnome, the system becomes slow for like 90 seconds, then poof there goes my wm (and compiz.real dies) | 03:17 |
| crdlb | hrm | 03:19 |
| derekS | just disabled animations | 03:20 |
| derekS | lets see if that helped | 03:20 |
| crdlb | if that doesn't help, try: compiz.real --replace decoration move resize | 03:20 |
| derekS | crdlb: it worked :) | 03:20 |
| derekS | i think | 03:20 |
| crimsun | make sure you file a bug :-) | 03:22 |
| crdlb | derekS: disabling animation worked? | 03:22 |
| derekS | crdlb: yeah | 03:22 |
| derekS | crimsun: going to do that now | 03:23 |
| derekS | crimsun: seems its bug 102883 | 03:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 102883 in compiz "[apport] compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV after restarting Gnome" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102883 | 03:27 |
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| Toma- | has rtl8180 been dropped from hardy? | 10:59 |
| Toma- | (the module) | 10:59 |
| Toma- | Would the build log give suggestions as to why certain modules are skipped in the kernel build? | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | Toma-: probably | 11:48 |
| Toma- | thx | 11:49 |
| Toma- | grr cant find a build log :( | 11:50 |
| Toma- | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/linux-source-2.6.24/2.6.24-2.4 | 11:51 |
| * Hobbsee suspects some of them have been told not to build | 11:51 | |
| Toma- | ..but im using the built package :/ | 11:52 |
| e_r_c_e | hello | 11:56 |
| e_r_c_e | i'm so stupid :) | 11:56 |
| e_r_c_e | i need to format floppy in 8.04 | 11:56 |
| e_r_c_e | how to? | 11:56 |
| Toma- | mkfs.whatever | 11:57 |
| Toma- | same as every other release of ubuntu | 11:57 |
| e_r_c_e | mkfs floppy0 | 11:57 |
| e_r_c_e | or mkfs.floppy0 | 11:57 |
| Toma- | hmmm should you be running hardy? | 11:58 |
| e_r_c_e | yes | 11:59 |
| e_r_c_e | hardy is my comp | 11:59 |
| Toma- | should you be formatting floppies then? :) | 12:00 |
| e_r_c_e | moment please | 12:00 |
| Toma- | 'man mkfs' | 12:00 |
| Toma- | Hobbsee➜ where can I find a build log for at least 1 of the hardy kernel? | 12:00 |
| e_r_c_e | MKFS-Build a Linux file system | 12:01 |
| e_r_c_e | what IF i want FAT 32 | 12:01 |
| e_r_c_e | ? | 12:01 |
| nanonyme | should you be using hardy if you don't know how to use format utilities in linux? :) | 12:01 |
| Toma- | scroll down to see also | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | nanonyme: i don't know that either | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | but this guy is seeming fairly clueless | 12:02 |
| e_r_c_e | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50487/ | 12:02 |
| Hobbsee | Toma-: it's under linux now | 12:02 |
| * nanonyme starts "when is it going to fail" timer about now | 12:02 | |
| Hobbsee | Toma-: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=linux&build_state=all | 12:03 |
| Toma- | thanks a bunch! | 12:03 |
| * nanonyme eyerolls at the failed ppc restricted modules build log | 12:05 | |
| nanonyme | "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1: not found | 12:05 |
| nanonyme | " o.O | 12:05 |
| Toma- | lawl | 12:05 |
| nanonyme | someone should tell ross to fix his build environment... | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | has gcc even built then? | 12:07 |
| * nanonyme shrugs | 12:07 | |
| Toma- | well this has been a huge cup of fail for me. | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | curse it. | 12:08 |
| nanonyme | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/2.6.24.2-2.8/+build/478334 build environment should already have been fully built to even attempt that | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | nanonyme: that would suggest that gcc died. | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 12:09 |
| Toma- | rtl8180.ko has been silently taken out :( | 12:10 |
| Toma- | i suspect the CIA >_> | 12:10 |
| nanonyme | Hobbsee, hmm, i guess. to me it just looked as if it's trying to use gcc 4.1 when it didn't exist on the computer | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | er, gcc-4.1 is not part of build-essentials anymore, i expect | 12:11 |
| nanonyme | what is, 4.2? | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 12:12 |
| nanonyme | right | 12:12 |
| nanonyme | so just a slight version-mismatch probably then | 12:12 |
| Hobbsee | means the kernel team screwed up, it appaers | 12:13 |
| nanonyme | they've probably been notified already, right? | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | oh, those l-r-m are old anyway | 12:14 |
| nanonyme | so yes | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | erm, at least, should be. | 12:15 |
| Toma- | So... is there anyway to find out where this module has gone? and when? | 12:15 |
| DOLLY | wann kommt die ubuntu 8.04 beta raus? | 12:53 |
| hit | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule | 12:53 |
| DOLLY | danke | 12:54 |
| Arjun | hey every one | 17:00 |
| Arjun | MMMM | 17:01 |
| Arjun | ok well Ive just installed ubuntu for the first time and it has picked up my ethernet card | 17:01 |
| Arjun | it however doesnt wanna ping my router and can not b pinged from other pcs | 17:02 |
| Arjun | I can ping myself though | 17:02 |
| Arjun | anyhelp please kinda new to the whole linux thung | 17:02 |
| Arjun | really dont wanna go back to the evilness of satans os | 17:03 |
| Arjun | anyone thewre | 17:03 |
| Arjun | there ?? | 17:03 |
| Arjun | oops wrong channel | 17:05 |
| Arjun | bye | 17:05 |
| Arjun | #ubuntu | 17:05 |
| Arjun | argh | 17:05 |
| i00_000i | how to stop daemons from starting up automatically during booting | 17:35 |
| pvandewyngaerde | edit/remove the startup scripts ? | 17:37 |
| i00_000i | but wher r they...in fedora one can control the services from /sbin/services but like that in ubuntu | 17:39 |
| sn0 | i00_000i try system > administration > services | 17:39 |
| i00_000i | sn0: entire list is not ther ...i installed the server edition ...plz tell me how to stop hal daemon | 17:40 |
| i00_000i | sn0: one can start and stop hal daemon from /sbin/services in fedora but itz not available in ubuntu | 17:40 |
| sn0 | i00_000i ok well working from the server you can manually start / stop the services from init.d | 17:42 |
| i00_000i | sn0: but hal daemon in not in /etc/init.d | 17:42 |
| i00_000i | sn0: i looked for httpd also itz also not ther | 17:43 |
| sn0 | i00_000i im not sure this is a ubuntu development version question, but fedora works differenty to ubuntu, so if it was httpd in fedora, this is called apache or apache2 in ubuntu | 17:43 |
| sn0 | for eg sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | 17:43 |
| Pici | i00_000i: Are you using Hardy/8.04? | 17:43 |
| sn0 | hal should be likewise, /etc/init.d/hal but im just checking on my vm image | 17:44 |
| i00_000i | Pici: not 7.o4 | 17:45 |
| Pici | i00_000i: This channel is only for 8.04/Hardy support. | 17:45 |
| sn0 | i00_000i you can ask in #ubuntu , or we can talk about it in there :) | 17:46 |
| i00_000i | sn0: i have been using fedora for a long time jst tried ubuntu as fedora is not recognising my laptops keyboard.. | 17:46 |
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| bardyr | !info nvidia-glx-new | 18:25 |
| ubotu | nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.24.2-2.8 (hardy), package size 4897 kB, installed size 14844 kB | 18:25 |
| bardyr | anyone got and idea when the new nvidia driver is in or when the kernel is updated | 18:26 |
| bardyr | its a bit behind the ubuntu kernel git tree | 18:26 |
| aslaen | hello, I am running the latest ubuntu hardy x86_64 alpha.. I installed elisa using apt-get install elisa, and it installed fine. When I try to launch it it never opens a UI. Here is the output from terminal.. http://nopaste.com/p/aM7UkgiP2 | 18:27 |
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| gouchi | Hi there | 20:07 |
| gouchi | is it plan to add support for OpenChrome card in Hardy | 20:07 |
| gouchi | I mean include the X.org driver directly in the CD | 20:08 |
| gouchi | didn't find any spec | 20:08 |
| Spec | gouchi: 'sup | 20:13 |
| gouchi | Spec : ? | 20:14 |
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| Spec | <gouchi> didn't find any spec | 20:15 |
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| aslaen | has anyone here successfully run elisa using the amd64 debs in hardy universe repo? | 20:21 |
| Spec | gouchi: what's OpenChrome? | 20:21 |
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| jtholmes | can anyone tell me how i find out who in the Ubuntu org is responsible for gdm | 21:00 |
| awen_ | jtholmes: look at the bug contacts for the package on launchpad ? | 21:00 |
| jtholmes | awen_, thanks will do | 21:06 |
| tcpdumpgod | Okay, im going to hang out in here. | 22:09 |
| tcpdumpgod | Too many noobs in #ubuntu | 22:09 |
| Oli`` | How stable is Hardy? | 22:32 |
| bardyr | Oli``, as stable as you can except from a ubuntu alpha2 | 22:34 |
| Oli`` | I can't remember when I jumped onto Gutsy but I think it was about the same sort of time... I'm just getting bored of the monotony of a stable system ^_^ | 22:35 |
| bardyr | heh | 22:35 |
| bardyr | im been on hardy but it was just too unstable for me | 22:36 |
| bardyr | waiting for the new nvida driver to be upped and im on it again | 22:36 |
| awen_ | Oli``: Kubuntu seems incredible stable for a alpha (at least with kde 3.5.*) | 22:37 |
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