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troy_sDID I JUST READ THAT EMAIL ON THE LIST?05:35
troy_sgrr.05:35
melarenIf you send a message to ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com without signing up does it still send to the list?06:38
troy_smelaren: It sits in a slush until an admin visually filters it iirc.07:15
troy_smelaren: If you want to be certain the list gets the message, the only way that I know of is to sign up for the list.07:15
troy_smelaren: That help?07:24
melarentroy_s, Sure does, thanks!07:59
yoshiznit124has anyone considered incorporating the release's animal (like a heron) into the default wallpaper?09:12
BHSPitLappyI CANNOT BELIEVE WE FORGOT TO CONSIDER THAT09:37
BHSPitLappytroy_s, what post enraged you so?10:08
troy_sBHSPitLappy: just the same old rubbish.10:09
troy_sBHSPitLappy: and lol to your last comment.10:09
troy_sBHSPitLappy: I was rather disappointed for having wasted Justin's time with the list.10:09
BHSPitLappythis Gelatin business doesn't do anything for me10:10
BHSPitLappyit's very well-polished-looking though10:10
BHSPitLappynever mind, mockups can't be polished10:11
troy_sBHSPitLappy: What gelatin link?10:35
BHSPitLappytroy_s, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/gelatin10:36
BHSPitLappyit's on the top of the linux section of digg10:36
troy_sBHSPitCSP: I thought the choice of wallpapers has been getting closer to Ubuntu however -- the grain from Ken's effort.  Laren's submission is marred by the fact that the tonal range is balanced out with the natural greens in the snapshots -- a bit of a cheat.  The wall alone (with theme details) is back into the monotone mode slightly (not _quite_ as bad as Ubuntu default)10:37
troy_sBHSPitLappy: It is probably the best wallpaper choice thematically.  That said, everything is very 'bloaty' fat.10:37
troy_sNot quite pulling along the 'elegant' line from my guesswork.10:38
troy_sand of course i find the tango bits naff as hell.10:38
troy_sbut with kwwii's monochromatics and a few twiddles, that would be about 1000000 times better than where ubuntu currently is at.10:39
lapohi10:39
troy_slapo: Greetz lapo!10:44
troy_swholly crap.10:48
troy_sdarn... where is Toma.10:48
troy_sI laugh out loud when I look at that bug of his.10:48
troy_sToo bloody funny.10:48
troy_sIt is like some pothead jailbird bug.10:48
troy_sHilarious.10:48
XadackaHello World18:52
XadackaHey anyone here?18:59
troy_sXadacka: possibly.19:13
troy_sXadacka: What's up Xadacka19:13
troy_s?19:13
rainwalkerJust popping in to say that it IS possible to be modern WITHOUT using gloss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Union_v0-2.jpg19:47
thorwilwow. good thing he popped in!!20:15
troy_sthorwil: Phew.  You missed another helpful guy earlier... I'll copy and paste to share the wisdom...20:52
troy_s<yoshiznit124> has anyone considered incorporating the release's animal (like a heron) into the default wallpaper?20:53
troy_s /join #jadedfeckerclub20:53
thorwilwow!20:53
troy_sthorwil: WOW20:53
troy_sthorwil: Let me look deeper into rainwalker's thinking...20:53
thorwiltroy_s: wait, wait, we could combine that_ a non-glossy heron20:54
troy_sthorwil: GLOSS = MODERN20:54
troy_sthorwil: Which about tells you the validity of the statement to begin with.20:54
Tm_Ttroy_s: true20:54
troy_sthorwil: WOOO WHAT ABOUT A GLOSSY HERON!20:54
thorwiltroy_s: no problem, i think we are in the post pots modern era20:54
troy_smodern!20:54
troy_sI unfortunately end up sounding like someone who believes that gloss is the sole root of Ubuntu's problem (which has been actually gone for a bit -- but seems to pop up in every tacky mock I see)20:55
troy_sGlossy is symptomatic.  It still leaves us as we are now -- without style.20:55
troy_s(in addition to a few other intangibles such as context, audience, motif, thematic, etc.)20:55
troy_sDoes anyone see an interesting 'style' developing out there in the wild?20:56
troy_sthorwil: LOL -- wtf is "PostPotsModern" LOL -- I love it.20:56
thorwiltroy_s: the pots was meant to be a second post20:57
troy_s"We aren't po-mo, we are po-pot-mo."20:57
troy_si know20:57
troy_sit looks better as pots!20:57
thorwiltroy_s: well, post modernism needs closure, but what comes afterwards?20:57
troy_sthorwil: Modernism got closure.  Post-Modernism.  But a good question.  I suppose we have been stuck in Post-Modernism-Oops-Britney-Spearsism for a while.20:58
thorwiloopism!20:58
troy_sthorwil: In our world, something like a neo-ren (done 19th late cen to early 20th) or neo-romaticism.20:59
troy_sprobably most appropriate.20:59
thorwilhow dare firefox freeze when i'm writing  a post pots modern post!20:59
troy_sunfortunately we have not enough style or class to get anywhere close to that just yet.  we need a bastion of style and class to have a bloody movement.  we are a _wee_ tad off from that.21:00
troy_slol21:00
thorwiltroy_s: isn't neo-romaticism an aspect of post modernism?21:00
troy_sthorwil: Po-mo gets thrown around just about everywhere.21:00
troy_sthorwil: From the time I was in school, I can honestly say that it has gotten even cloudier than when it started.21:00
thorwilheh yeah, another term that is everyones bitch, if i may say :)21:01
troy_sthorwil: Probably apt.  When I was studying, po-mo had elements of what is commonplace today -- the idea of the subject involvement / third wall removal and non-linear was rather hip (especially in novels)21:03
troy_sthorwil: Memento was sort of a 'mainstream' po-mo example, followed up by a far more adept 21Grams (although still rather bound up in narrative linearism).  Of course anyone from Europe familiar with decent cinema could probably cite a few auteurs who were doing that sort of thing before those hit mainline.21:04
thorwilthe way i got to know it was taking modern lines and adding stuff in eclectic ways21:04
* thorwil goes on a 3rd try to post a picture21:06
thorwilhttp://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ubuntu-brainstorm-5/21:08
thorwilnot too happy, but had to try it21:08
troy_syeah i don't know if I could say that was po -mo... most of what i "know" as po-mo is somewhere between dadaist / surrealist meets "trendy".21:10
troy_sit is something like imagining a pop-culture sales brochure or building architecture warped out in some way that makes it almost unattractive to that very audience.21:11
troy_si remember someone pointed me to a good gallery on po-mo stuffs... i wonder if i could find it.21:11
thorwili'll be off in seconds21:12
troy_sthorwil: Ditto...21:12
troy_sthis to me is rather po-mo21:13
troy_shttp://www.whitelead.com/jrh/screenshots/cafeteria.JPG21:13
thorwiljepp, i can agree to that :)21:14
troy_shttp://www.whitelead.com/jrh/screenshots/21:14
troy_she did a whole series... rather... good commentary.21:14
thorwiltroy_s: i know a video in that style21:14
thorwiltroy_s: gotta run, see you!21:14
troy_sthorwil: Ciao thorwil21:14
lassegul_:q!21:25
_MMA_http://betatype.com/node/3621:54

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