=== klepas_ is now known as karter [05:35] DID I JUST READ THAT EMAIL ON THE LIST? [05:35] grr. [06:38] If you send a message to ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com without signing up does it still send to the list? [07:15] melaren: It sits in a slush until an admin visually filters it iirc. [07:15] melaren: If you want to be certain the list gets the message, the only way that I know of is to sign up for the list. [07:24] melaren: That help? [07:59] troy_s, Sure does, thanks! [09:12] has anyone considered incorporating the release's animal (like a heron) into the default wallpaper? [09:37] I CANNOT BELIEVE WE FORGOT TO CONSIDER THAT [10:08] troy_s, what post enraged you so? [10:09] BHSPitLappy: just the same old rubbish. [10:09] BHSPitLappy: and lol to your last comment. [10:09] BHSPitLappy: I was rather disappointed for having wasted Justin's time with the list. [10:10] this Gelatin business doesn't do anything for me [10:10] it's very well-polished-looking though [10:11] never mind, mockups can't be polished [10:35] BHSPitLappy: What gelatin link? [10:36] troy_s, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/gelatin [10:36] it's on the top of the linux section of digg [10:37] BHSPitCSP: I thought the choice of wallpapers has been getting closer to Ubuntu however -- the grain from Ken's effort. Laren's submission is marred by the fact that the tonal range is balanced out with the natural greens in the snapshots -- a bit of a cheat. The wall alone (with theme details) is back into the monotone mode slightly (not _quite_ as bad as Ubuntu default) [10:37] BHSPitLappy: It is probably the best wallpaper choice thematically. That said, everything is very 'bloaty' fat. [10:38] Not quite pulling along the 'elegant' line from my guesswork. [10:38] and of course i find the tango bits naff as hell. [10:39] but with kwwii's monochromatics and a few twiddles, that would be about 1000000 times better than where ubuntu currently is at. [10:39] hi [10:44] lapo: Greetz lapo! [10:48] wholly crap. [10:48] darn... where is Toma. [10:48] I laugh out loud when I look at that bug of his. [10:48] Too bloody funny. [10:48] It is like some pothead jailbird bug. [10:48] Hilarious. [18:52] Hello World [18:59] Hey anyone here? [19:13] Xadacka: possibly. [19:13] Xadacka: What's up Xadacka [19:13] ? [19:47] Just popping in to say that it IS possible to be modern WITHOUT using gloss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Union_v0-2.jpg [20:15] wow. good thing he popped in!! [20:52] thorwil: Phew. You missed another helpful guy earlier... I'll copy and paste to share the wisdom... [20:53] has anyone considered incorporating the release's animal (like a heron) into the default wallpaper? [20:53] /join #jadedfeckerclub [20:53] wow! [20:53] thorwil: WOW [20:53] thorwil: Let me look deeper into rainwalker's thinking... [20:54] troy_s: wait, wait, we could combine that_ a non-glossy heron [20:54] thorwil: GLOSS = MODERN [20:54] thorwil: Which about tells you the validity of the statement to begin with. [20:54] troy_s: true [20:54] thorwil: WOOO WHAT ABOUT A GLOSSY HERON! [20:54] troy_s: no problem, i think we are in the post pots modern era [20:54] modern! [20:55] I unfortunately end up sounding like someone who believes that gloss is the sole root of Ubuntu's problem (which has been actually gone for a bit -- but seems to pop up in every tacky mock I see) [20:55] Glossy is symptomatic. It still leaves us as we are now -- without style. [20:55] (in addition to a few other intangibles such as context, audience, motif, thematic, etc.) [20:56] Does anyone see an interesting 'style' developing out there in the wild? [20:56] thorwil: LOL -- wtf is "PostPotsModern" LOL -- I love it. [20:57] troy_s: the pots was meant to be a second post [20:57] "We aren't po-mo, we are po-pot-mo." [20:57] i know [20:57] it looks better as pots! [20:57] troy_s: well, post modernism needs closure, but what comes afterwards? [20:58] thorwil: Modernism got closure. Post-Modernism. But a good question. I suppose we have been stuck in Post-Modernism-Oops-Britney-Spearsism for a while. [20:58] oopism! [20:59] thorwil: In our world, something like a neo-ren (done 19th late cen to early 20th) or neo-romaticism. [20:59] probably most appropriate. [20:59] how dare firefox freeze when i'm writing a post pots modern post! [21:00] unfortunately we have not enough style or class to get anywhere close to that just yet. we need a bastion of style and class to have a bloody movement. we are a _wee_ tad off from that. [21:00] lol [21:00] troy_s: isn't neo-romaticism an aspect of post modernism? [21:00] thorwil: Po-mo gets thrown around just about everywhere. [21:00] thorwil: From the time I was in school, I can honestly say that it has gotten even cloudier than when it started. [21:01] heh yeah, another term that is everyones bitch, if i may say :) [21:03] thorwil: Probably apt. When I was studying, po-mo had elements of what is commonplace today -- the idea of the subject involvement / third wall removal and non-linear was rather hip (especially in novels) [21:04] thorwil: Memento was sort of a 'mainstream' po-mo example, followed up by a far more adept 21Grams (although still rather bound up in narrative linearism). Of course anyone from Europe familiar with decent cinema could probably cite a few auteurs who were doing that sort of thing before those hit mainline. [21:04] the way i got to know it was taking modern lines and adding stuff in eclectic ways [21:06] * thorwil goes on a 3rd try to post a picture [21:08] http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ubuntu-brainstorm-5/ [21:08] not too happy, but had to try it [21:10] yeah i don't know if I could say that was po -mo... most of what i "know" as po-mo is somewhere between dadaist / surrealist meets "trendy". [21:11] it is something like imagining a pop-culture sales brochure or building architecture warped out in some way that makes it almost unattractive to that very audience. [21:11] i remember someone pointed me to a good gallery on po-mo stuffs... i wonder if i could find it. [21:12] i'll be off in seconds [21:12] thorwil: Ditto... [21:13] this to me is rather po-mo [21:13] http://www.whitelead.com/jrh/screenshots/cafeteria.JPG [21:14] jepp, i can agree to that :) [21:14] http://www.whitelead.com/jrh/screenshots/ [21:14] he did a whole series... rather... good commentary. [21:14] troy_s: i know a video in that style [21:14] troy_s: gotta run, see you! [21:14] thorwil: Ciao thorwil [21:25] :q! [21:54] <_MMA_> http://betatype.com/node/36