[00:00] <tcpdumpgod> Svish why raid0 if I may ask.
[00:00] <tcpdumpgod> Performance?
[00:00] <zcat[1]> Svish: suggestion; turn off hardware raid completely and use software raid...
[00:00] <tcpdumpgod> zcat[1] why would he do that?
[00:00] <tcpdumpgod> Thats almost pointless.
[00:00] <Svish> wanted to try :p dont have enough harddrives to use raid5 and want space and speed rather than security :p
[00:00] <tcpdumpgod> Svish whats the model number of your RAID card?
[00:00] <Svish> zcat[1]: if I set that up in ubuntu, will windows be able to use it?
[00:01] <tcpdumpgod> Svish not interested in fault tolerance?
[00:01] <tcpdumpgod> Svish dont use software raid unless you HAVE to.
[00:01] <eHome> zcat[1]: ?
[00:01] <zcat[1]> hardware raid ties you to the controller .. software raid if the whole box blows up you can move the drives to a new completely differnt box and get up and running again.
[00:01] <Svish> tcpdumpgod: maybe ill make one fault tolerant and one speed, but well see
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> I've literally set 20 to 50 raid arrays up in the last 3 years.
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> some SERIOUS terrabyte arrays.
[00:02] <Svish> zcat[1]: thats true i guess
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> zcat[1] if its hardware raid... you just stick the controller in another box.
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[00:02] <zcat[1]> also a lot of cheap controllers to 'fake raid' which is software raid in a propriatory driver.. worst of both worlds.
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> anyway Svish whats the make/model of your RAID card?
[00:02] <Svish> dont know what raid card model number I ahve. but it is built in on the Asus m2n32-sli deluxe motherboard. the utility I use just boot is called Nvidia MediaShield
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> yeah fake raid sucks.
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> Dells notorious for that.
[00:03] <McKayCR> is there a flash player for ubuntu PPC
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> Im sure there is McKayCR
[00:03] <zcat[1]> The overhead of software raid is nothing these days, and you get a lot more flexability.
[00:03] <McKayCR> not quite the answer I was looking for
[00:03] <Skyblast> yup
[00:03] <Marfi> McKayCR, should be. check for flash in the repos
[00:03] <Skyblast> LVM is awesome
[00:03] <Svish> but can I use LVM with windows?
[00:03] <McKayCR> I did, I don't think I found any
[00:04] <zcat[1]> ummmmm.. topic? flash package is broken...
[00:04] <zcat[1]> !flash
[00:04] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> McKayCR "sudo aptitude search flash-nonfree"
[00:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:04] <Marfi> McKayCR, flashplugin-nonfree
[00:04] <Svish> cause I am either going to use only windows or dualboot with ubuntu
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> zcat[1] broken for all arch's or just for PPC?
[00:04] <Svish> probably the last
[00:04] <zcat[1]> tcpdumpgod:  all afaik
[00:04] <Skyblast> Svish: Erm... I don't think so, sadly
[00:04] <zcat[1]> actually, yes.. is there a flash plugin at all for ppc?
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> Svish i'd probably just go with software like zcat said... i've had some serious problems with RAID and GRUB before.
[00:05] <zcat[1]> !gnash
[00:05] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> If you're not experienced setting up RAID arrays, stick w/Ubuntu software raid.
[00:05] <IndyGunFreak> you can download the flash plugin from Adobe.com and install it no prob, and it works fine.
[00:05] <fallore_> test
[00:05] <Svish> problem is I have to use windows :p
[00:05] <Svish> could I use ubuntu to set up the raid and then boot up with the windows install disk?
[00:05] <nownot> how do i start my usb wifi?
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> fallore your test is working.
[00:05] <zcat[1]> eHome: many sip providers 'peer' with each other, so you can call friends on a different system just like calling another country.. (but still free)
[00:05] <fallore_> tcpdumpgod: awesome :]
[00:06] <tcpdumpgod> Svish how many drives do you have?
[00:06] <Marfi> nownot, sudo ifconfig <address> up
[00:06] <Svish> 2 x 2
[00:06] <Svish> so, 2 pairs
[00:06] <tcpdumpgod> So 4 total.
[00:06] <Svish> yeah
[00:06] <tcpdumpgod> okay, do this...
[00:06] <Svish> but two are one type, and two are some other type
[00:06] <nownot> ok is there a quick guide or something i can look at for wifi linux commands?
[00:06] <eHome> zcat[1]: yes. i found out now. ekiga can call yahoo etc. so i m now applying a sip account
[00:06] <tcpdumpgod> Do a RAID5 array
[00:06] <newbie> is clamav and clamtk the same thing?
[00:06] <Cereal> Does anyone know how I can convert a .mkv file to .avi? VLC won't play it right _ _#
[00:07] <tcpdumpgod> Just make it one big arksed disk.
[00:07] <zcat[1]> eHome: the best answer though is get all your friends to make a sip aggount on the same provider
[00:07] <Svish> can I do raid5 when they are not all same type?
[00:07] <tcpdumpgod> you should be able to if they're close to the same geometry.l
[00:07] <tcpdumpgod> and size
[00:07] <Marfi> Cereal, theres a wonderful program called ConvertIT. you'll have to do a google search for how to install it. i love it, it works wonders
[00:07] <tcpdumpgod> normally it just knocks it down to the smallest drive.
[00:07] <eHome> zcat[1]: i m dummy. find out what sip means first ...
[00:07] <tcpdumpgod> At least thats the way Sun hardware RAID works.
[00:08] <Cereal> Marfi: Thanks a lot :D
[00:08] <chimp_> This laptop im using will randomly lock up while im using it, wont repond at all and im forced to do a hard shutdown, how can i diagnose this problem?
[00:08] <aswear> how do i renew my LAN connection?  I didn't do the autoconfigure during the install of ubuntu server
[00:08] <Svish> tcpdumpgod: are talking in the hardware thing now, or in ubuntu?
[00:08] <Marfi> Cereal, any time. =)
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> Svish im talking hardware raid.
[00:08] <Svish> ok
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> put all your drives in a raid5 array.
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> then install windows.
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> then install ubuntu
[00:08] <zcat[1]> chimp_: see if there's anything logged in /var/log/messages ?
[00:08] <eHome> zcat[1]: quick FAQ: me and friends use yahoo msn skype -- can ekiga still handle ?
[00:08] <Marfi> aswear, sudo dhcpcd <device>
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> raid1 and raid5.... you're not going to notice the speed differtence.
[00:08] <tcpdumpgod> Unless its a fileserver, or you're gaming.
[00:09] <hdvalence> !multimonitor
[00:09] <tcpdumpgod> AND... you'll have redundancy.
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multimonitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
 = eth0??
[00:09] <aswear> marri
[00:09] <annonymouse> hey, has any one installed splashy in here,  its giving me hassle when i try to  run ./configure   it  times out  and the config.log file isnt much to go on as to why
[00:09] <aswear> marfi
[00:09] <eHome> zcat[1]: i m quite new to ekiga idea
[00:09] <tcpdumpgod> Sorry about the spelling, im great w/computers.... horrible w/spelling.
[00:09] <tcpdumpgod> heh
[00:09] <zcat[1]> eHome: afaik skype only talks to skype ... don't know at all about the others. All of your friends can install ekiga and make an account at ekiga.net though..
[00:09] <hdvalence> !dualmonitor
[00:09] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:09] <Marfi> aswear, yes?  =)
[00:09] <hdvalence> !xinerama
[00:09] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[00:09] <aswear> Marfi device is eth0 ??
[00:10] <Marfi> aswear, sorry, missed it. it should be
[00:10] <mtraven> My ubuntu got horribly broken after attempting to upgrade to Gutsy, it won't boot up properly, and apt-get won't work...what are my options other than reinstalling from scratch?
[00:10] <linux_> has anyone tried to install windows media player with wine??
[00:10] <aswear> i only have one nic
[00:10] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven you're going to have to fix apt.
[00:10] <eHome> zcat[1]: well, in this case, i m not going to register. my friends are more dummy than me. they use msn on xp
[00:10] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven meaning fixing the broken packages.
[00:10] <Marfi> linux_, may i ask why you would want to do that?
[00:10] <linux_> watching news
[00:10] <aswear> jw, what do you guys think of linux mint??
[00:10] <mtraven> Here's what apt-get is telling me: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50441/
[00:10] <zcat[1]> linux_: I have MSIE7 on wine... haven't tried media player yet
[00:10] <linux_> vlc doesn't work
[00:10] <IdleOne> linux_: doubt it would work with wine. try asking in #winehq
[00:10] <Marfi> aswear, never used it
[00:11] <hdvalence> !dualhead
[00:11] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[00:11] <Marfi> linux_, what are you trying to get to play?
[00:11] <WorkingOnWise> linux_: I installed WMP9 successfully, but it was a bit buggy.
[00:11] <linux_> unfortunately the Danish tv station uses windows streaming
[00:11] <eHome> zcat[1]: nowadays, scared of accounts/password and spam - the less the better
[00:11] <zcat[1]> Marfi: sometimes we do these things just to prove it can be done :)
[00:11] <vanchu_> hello, I have a gnome desktop and I want to add workspaces, but I deleted the dock at the bottom
[00:11] <NotSoGutsy> when using nautilus-cd-burner, what does ignoring Windows compatibility do to the files ?
[00:11] <IdleOne> aswear: it is not ubuntu
[00:12] <eHome> zcat[1]: thanks for info :D
[00:12] <annonymouse> !pastebin
[00:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:12] <linux_> hmm I just tried different WMP but they all failed to run'
[00:12] <aswear> Marfi - it says dhcpcd is not a command
[00:12] <Cereal> Vanchu: Right click on your taskbar and click "Add to Panel" In there is workspaces :)
[00:12] <FrostRat> mtraven: if you load up Synaptic, it'll have an option to "fix broken packages"... or you can do it from the command line
[00:12] <Marfi> aswear, you may have to install the package. reboot possibly?
[00:13] <vanchu> Cereal, I removed the task bar
[00:13] <Marfi> aswear, or unplug the cord, plug it back in. eth0 may also be down. you could try sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[00:13] <Svish> tcpdumpgod: raid5 has been made. and now ubuntu should be able to use it?
[00:13] <mtraven> I can't even run synaptic, but I can get a command line if I log in remotely...but my apt-get magic is getting errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50441/
[00:13] <IdleOne> vanchu: click on the top panel and click add new panel
[00:13] <vanchu> thanks
[00:13] <Cereal> Vanchu: All of your taskbars?
[00:13] <dwxreaper> how do i run a command in the background so I still have my shell while it runs
[00:13] <dwxreaper> with ubuntu and bash
[00:13] <annonymouse> can any one help me im running a program called splashy  everytime i type ./configure in  i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50442/  in the configure.log and it errors out  does any one know what im doing wrong ?
[00:14] <function1> dwxreaper: add a & to the end of cmd
[00:14] <IdleOne> annonymouse: have you installed the build-essential pakage?
[00:14] <nownot> i cant get iwconfig to work using this iwconfig wlan0 key 1928abcef54623adef1268361 essid "lewtoizeme"
[00:14] <IdleOne> *package
[00:14] <nownot> any ideas
[00:14] <FrostRat> dwxreaper: also, type exit to end the terminal session instead of clicking the X
[00:14] <annonymouse> um no i guess i havent IdleOne
[00:14] <aswear> eth0 is up
[00:14] <tcpdumpgod> Svish yes.
[00:15] <annonymouse> which is it
[00:15] <tcpdumpgod> Svish as long as they're all in one partition.
[00:15] <aswear> how do i get the dhcpcd package from the install disk?
[00:15] <IdleOne> annonymouse: sudo apt-get install build-essential then try your ./configure
[00:15] <zcat[1]> Svish: I would be inclined to set up the drives as individual drives in the controller config. When you install (and possibly you need to use the 'alternative' installer) you will have the option of configuring software raid... I've always found this much easier.
[00:15] <tcpdumpgod> Install windows, then install ubuntu... if you're wanting to dual boot.
[00:15] <Marfi> tcpdumpgod, i second that
[00:15] <WorkingOnWise> wouldnt u expect a laptop to be able to handle a framebuffer mode equal to the lcd's actual resolution? My laptop display is 1440x900, but  sudo hwinfo --framebuffer reports 1024x768 in 16 or 24 bit to be the max.
[00:15] <function1> anyone know of some way to mash my stereo channels on top of eachother, making each channel the same?
[00:16] <eHome> do i need to type each time when i start ubuntu? sudo openvpn --config mmm.ovpn -- and how to stop openvpn ?
[00:16] <Svish> zcat[1]: but how do that work together with windows?
[00:16] <zcat[1]> Svish: although this probably won't work if you're trying to dual-boot with Windows.
[00:16] <Marfi> WorkingOnWise, you may have to modify xorg.conf file
[00:16] <Svish> exactly... :p
[00:16] <cookie> hey
[00:16] <Marfi> WorkingOnWise, also, you may have to look at video drivers. what card do you have?
[00:16] <cookie> how do I restore the main menu on Lost Irc
[00:16] <annonymouse> IdleOne it tells me i need my  boot cd
[00:17] <tcpdumpgod> word Marfi  :)
[00:17] <tcpdumpgod> zcat[1] i dont see why it  wouldn't
[00:17] <zcat[1]> Svish: the idea of using RAID (typically for high availability) and dual-boot (rebooting at whim) seem at odds to me..
[00:17] <Marfi> tcpdumpgod, i would rather go all linux, but thats just my oppinion. =)
[00:17] <WorkingOnWise> Marfi: doesnt  sudo hwinfo --framebuffer pool the actual video card? I have a Nvidia GeForce Go 6100, and am using the 100.x restricted drivers.
[00:17] <tcpdumpgod> Windows should see the RAID5 array as one big drive.
[00:17] <vanchu> Ok I got my main task bar back lol
[00:17] <wersdaluv> I contact emailed me a scanned visa. I just printed it. it's just that, the texts aren't clear. is there anything that I can do with the texts to make them clearer?
[00:17] <cookie> HELLO
[00:17] <tcpdumpgod> Marfi thats  what VMWare is good for.
[00:17] <cookie> how do I resotre manu bar on LostIrc
[00:17] <tcpdumpgod> When you HAVE to run windows.
[00:18] <mtraven> So, nobody can tell me how to unwedge apt-get from the brokenness here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50441/
[00:18] <Marfi> WorkingOnWise, have you enabled the restricted drivers? im using a 6800, and running at 1280 x 1024
[00:18] <tcpdumpgod> im looking mtraven , one sec.
[00:18] <aswear> Marfi - sorry, one more thing, how do i get dhcpcd from the install cd??
[00:18] <aswear> with apt-get
[00:18] <cookie> how the fuck do I restore the menu on LOSTIRC...could somebody help
[00:18] <Marfi> aswear, sudo apt-get install dhcpcd
[00:18] <inktree> My 64-bit Ubuntu 7.10 keeps on rebooting while trying to load on startup. This problem exists for everything: trying to start Ubuntu via the Live-CD, via hard drive, via recovery mode. I also believe this is a 64-bit problem because my 32-bit Live-CD works perfectly
[00:18] <cookie> ?
[00:18] <inktree> I've checked the threads on these forums and have tried what people have suggested with little success:
[00:18] <inktree> Quote:
[00:18] <inktree> 1. appending noapic nolapic nosplash to boot sequence (strange thing is this has worked a couple of times out of 50+ restarts, I managed to boot into the Live-CD with this method and I was able to install Ubuntu)
[00:18] <inktree> 2. updating my BIOS
[00:18] <inktree> 3. appending noapic nolapic
[00:18] <inktree> 4. appending noapic
[00:18] <inktree> 5. acpi=off
[00:18] <mtraven> Thanks tcpdumpgod, sorry to be impatient!
[00:19] <inktree> 6. acpi=ht
[00:19] <inktree> My relevant computer specs:
[00:19] <inktree> Quote:
[00:19] <inktree> 64bit Ubuntu 7.10, Gigabyte P35-DS3L (with latest BIOS), Q6600, GeForce 8400GS, LSI 21320 SCSI hba, 2x Hitachi 15k300 Ultrastar hard drives.
[00:19] <inktree> During bootup I'm getting:
[00:19] <stdin> !enter | inktree
[00:19] <ubotu> inktree: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:19] <inktree> Quote:
[00:19] <WorkingOnWise> Marfi: yeah, their in and working great at 1440x900x24 in Gnome. I'm messing with the framebuffer settings now...
[00:19] <inktree> Inquiring remote APIC #2...
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #2 ID: failed
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #2 VERSION: failed
[00:19] <cookie> how the fuck do I restore the menu on LOSTIRC...could somebody help
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #2 SPIV: failed
[00:19] <inktree> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code
[00:19] <inktree> Booting processor 2/3 APIC 0x1
[00:19] <inktree> Not responding.
[00:19] <stdin> !language | cookie
[00:19] <inktree> Inquiring remote APIC #3...
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #3 ID: failed
[00:19] <ubotu> cookie: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #3 VERSION: failed
[00:19] <FrostRat> mtraven: I'm going to read it now, but have you tried "sudo apt-get install -f" to try fixing it?
[00:19] <javaJake> !paste | inktree
[00:19] <ubotu> inktree: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #3 SPIV: failed
[00:19] <zcat[1]> !pastebin | inktree
[00:19] <inktree> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code
[00:19] <inktree> Booting processor 3/2 APIC 0x1
[00:19] <cookie> ok
[00:19] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven line 50 is your problem.
[00:19] <inktree> Not responding.
[00:19] <inktree> Inquiring remote APIC #1...
[00:19] <Marfi> WorkingOnWise, aight. i think i ended up just editing my xorg.conf to default to it
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #1 ID: failed
[00:19] <tcpdumpgod> Have you googled that error mtraven ?
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #1 VERSION: failed
[00:19] <cookie> could somebody help me
[00:19] <inktree> ... APIC #1 SPIV: failed
[00:19] <javaJake> inktree, stop
[00:19] <inktree> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code
[00:19] <inktree> Booting processor 3/2 APIC 0x1
[00:19] <inktree> Not responding.
[00:19] <stdin> !ops | inktree flood
[00:19] <ubotu> inktree flood: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[00:19] <inktree> Does anyone know how to remedy this problem -- it's so frustrating ? Do I have to change some motherboard setting? Why does the noapic nolapic work only sometimes? What's wrong with my APIC?
[00:19] <inktree> Thank you very much for the help
[00:20] <cookie> dude
[00:20] <H264> if I have a certain picture, how do I set it as the current background from the command line?
[00:20] <LetterRip> hi all on a resume from sleep my screen temporarally has a bunch of verticle color lines, and bright white spots on black - any way to fix that?
[00:20] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven http://www.google.com/search?q=%22symbol+lookup+error%3A+%2Fusr%2Flib%2Flibxml2.so.2%3A+undefined+symbol%3A+gzopen64
[00:20] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....
[00:20] <Seveas> damn lag
[00:20] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven its allover google.
[00:20] <cookie> COULD SOMEBODY PLS HHELP?
[00:20] <tcpdumpgod> You have to learn to fish for yourself mtraven
[00:20] <tcpdumpgod> :)
[00:20] <javaJake> !caps | cookie
[00:20] <ubotu> cookie: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[00:20] <Seveas> !caps | cookie
[00:20] <javaJake> Seveas, hehehehe
[00:20] <tcpdumpgod> cookie what is the problem.
[00:20] <cookie> come on
[00:20] <Seveas> javaJake, I may have to kill you now :0
[00:20] <Seveas> :p
[00:20] <cookie> How do I restore menu bar on LostIrc
[00:21]  * javaJake chuckles
[00:21] <javaJake> Ah but you can't, Seveas!
[00:21] <Marfi> cookie, right click, add panel. add "task bar"
[00:21] <javaJake> Mwahahahaha!
[00:21] <Seveas> javaJake, I'll settle for a kick+ban :)
[00:21] <gan|y|med>  i'd like to try XorgOnTheEdge. is there a repo for this?
[00:21] <tcpdumpgod> i dont know cookie , i dont use lostirc.
[00:21] <tcpdumpgod> i use BitchX
[00:21] <cookie> thank you
[00:21] <poonaani> hdevalence u from canada too
[00:21] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod: i did google for it, did not turn up anything useful.
[00:21] <cookie> Marfi: Thanks
[00:21] <tcpdumpgod> no prolem, sorry i couldn't help.
[00:21] <dumnut> hi, i installed 7.10, changed passwd, and want to go to su and pout in that password and even password in installed and it said saorry both times, what is the password for su?
[00:22] <javaJake> Seveas, oh no you won't, because that'd abuse your powers. :)
[00:22] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven i see it.
[00:22] <hdevalence> poonaani: yes
[00:22] <Marfi> cookie, np
[00:22] <tcpdumpgod> do you not?
[00:22] <phreck> anyone have any tips on getting a WPC54G PCMCIA Card working in 7.10?
[00:22] <tcpdumpgod> 4th link
[00:22] <javaJake> Seveas, you want abuse!? ;)
[00:22] <javaJake> I'll show you abuse if you want some! :P
[00:22] <hdevalence> dumnut: try sudo su
[00:22] <Marfi> dumnut, you cant su to root in ubuntu. in order to enable root, you will have to sudo passwd
[00:22] <hdevalence> dumnut: ubuntu has no root passwd
[00:22] <Marfi> dumnut, its disabled by default
[00:22] <zcat[1]> !sudo
[00:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:23] <stdin> dumnut: "sudo -i" will get you a root shell, just like "su" but using _your_ password
[00:23] <H264> if I have a certain picture, how do I set it as the current background from the command line?
[00:24] <tcpdumpgod> H264 depends on what terminal you're usaing.
[00:24] <tcpdumpgod> ising*
[00:25] <tcpdumpgod> using*
[00:25] <H264> tcpdumpgod: the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[00:25] <javaJake> OK... this is going all wrong, here
[00:25] <javaJake> LjL, I was only joking around with Seveas
[00:25] <javaJake> LjL, i said "if you want" and I used ";)"
[00:25] <tcpdumpgod> H264 its under edit profiles.
[00:25] <tcpdumpgod> Or something
[00:25] <LjL> javaJake: uh, i know. you asked for a helping hand back though...
[00:26] <javaJake> Oh, hahaha lol XD
[00:26] <Seveas> javaJake, yeah my bad, I shouldn't have been messing with you in here :)
[00:26] <dumnut> i used sudo su and it worked thank-you hdevalence Marfi and su -i work too thank-you stdin.
[00:26] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod, that link had nothing in that works (the recipe at the end I hadn't tried before, but I just did, and it barfed with the same
[00:26] <mtraven>   ImportError: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64
[00:26] <mtraven> that it got before...so I'm still stumped
[00:26] <zcat[1]> power corrupts, absolute power is even more fun..
[00:26] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven let me look around some more... hold up
[00:26] <javaJake> Let this be a lesson to you all! Never _ever_ joke about op powers with ops around. :)
[00:26] <alesan> hi. do you think it is possible to install Ubuntu on a RAID partition?
[00:27] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven paste me the pastebin link again please.
[00:27] <zcat[1]> !raid
[00:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[00:27] <alesan> I booted with the standard live cd and it does not recognize the raid partitions.
[00:27] <tcpdumpgod> alesan you have to manually load the module for the raid card then.
[00:28] <alesan> tcpdumpgod: it is software raid.
[00:28] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50441/
[00:28] <mtraven>   and thanks for your trouble
[00:28] <tcpdumpgod> alesan weird
[00:28] <alesan> tcpdumpgod: the partitions have been created in a previous FEDORA installation
[00:28] <tcpdumpgod> looking mtraven
[00:28] <tcpdumpgod> alesan it should still see them in fdisk.
[00:28] <tcpdumpgod> no problem mtraven , we'll get you worked out.
[00:29] <alesan> well I can see the partitions of course in fdisk
[00:29] <alesan> but they are separate partitions on te disks and not a whole filesystem where I can install ubuntu to.
[00:29] <dodo_> hi guys. happy new year
[00:29] <zcat[1]> try using alternative installer, I'm not sure if the GUI one handles raid at all..
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven i take it you're somewhat fimiliar with the command line?
[00:30] <cookie> How can I find out which graphic card do I have
[00:30] <cookie> ?
[00:30] <dodo_> i can't play windows media from firefox. i installed all possible programs. firefox chooses totem but cant play windows media video 9
[00:30] <mtraven> Yes, command line is not a problem
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven Try this from the command line
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> "sudo ldconfig
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> "
[00:30] <zcat[1]> also in the past I have found the installer gets confused by existing RAID partitions.. I have to sero-wipe the first few blocks of the drives and start clean
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> "sudo update-manager"
[00:30] <Hemebond> dodo_: Have you tried playing the video outside of Firefox?
[00:30] <cookie> how can I find out what graphic card do I have
[00:30] <alesan> zcat[1]: ok thanks
[00:30] <Hemebond> dodo_: You may need the restricted codec pack.
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> Then tell me what happens mtraven
[00:30] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....
[00:30] <tcpdumpgod> cookie type "
[00:31] <tcpdumpgod> glxinfo in a command line
[00:31] <tifine> does any body know any usenet which have super search as well for ubuntu ?
[00:31] <cookie> '
[00:31] <cookie> "
[00:31] <sun> hello
[00:31] <ubuntu> Hi.
[00:31] <cookie> tcpdumpgod: just "
[00:31] <cookie> ?
[00:31] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra is it a broadcom chipset?
[00:31] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: yes.
[00:31] <l3oddah> i'm looking for some help with a vpn connection, can anyone help with that?
[00:31] <tcpdumpgod> cookie  "glxinfo"
[00:31] <tcpdumpgod> type that.
[00:31] <sun> salut
[00:31] <cookie> ok
[00:31] <bauer77> Hey people, I need your help.  I have a dual boot between Windows XP and Ubuntu but for now some reason it comes up saying that I have a system disk error, like it cant boot from a cd but there is not CD in there, and Grub doesnt come up at all. What is the simplest way to repair Grub so that it sees my XP and Linux again
[00:31] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod, I just did that and got the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50444/
[00:31] <cookie> salut
[00:31] <cookie> thanks
[00:31] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: It works fine though for a while... and that while can be anywhere from an hour to 10 hours.
[00:31] <cookie> intra pe #ubuntu_ro
[00:32] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra are you using ndiswrapper?
[00:32] <zcat[1]> !grub | bauer77
[00:32] <sun> il y a quelqu'un
[00:32] <ubotu> bauer77: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:32] <tcpdumpgod> looking mtraven
[00:32] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: I dunno... what was teh default setup?  Gutsy recognized it, so I didnt screw with it after install.
[00:32] <cookie> #ubuntu-ro
[00:32] <l3oddah> ok, so i created a vpn connection to my work, and i get connected to it just fine, but when i try to view my desktop at work, i get an error of no route to host (113) with vncviewer
[00:33] <tcpdumpgod> lol @ teh.
[00:33] <Nicholas> Hi.
[00:33] <godzirra> l3oddah: are you 100% positive it isn't a firewall issue between your home PC and the work pc?
[00:33] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra do a "lsmod |grep ndis"
[00:33] <dethtoll> does ubuntu support the atheros AR5007EG wifi card?
[00:33] <Rabbitbunny> l3oddah: Check that the ports are open.
[00:33] <tcpdumpgod> see if you see ndiswrapper.
[00:33] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: apparently I am not.
[00:33] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra did you use the "Restricted drivers manager" to get your card working?
[00:33] <godzirra> I think so.
[00:33] <dodo_> what is the registered codec pack? where i can find it?
[00:34] <godzirra> Yes.
[00:34] <godzirra> I did.
[00:34] <WorkingOnWise> what would I search for in synaptic if I wanted to see all the console mode (vi, nano, etc) editors in the repos?
[00:34] <dodo_> i tried to play outside of firefox. it did not play
[00:34] <Marfi> dethtoll, i want to say yes, but im not 100% sure
[00:34] <l3oddah> well just a quick question though, my home network is class C, and my work network is class C, after connecting to vpn /etc/resolv.conf is rewritten and adds my home default gw as a nameserver, is that supposed to do that?
[00:34] <Rabbitbunny> WorkingOnWise: 'terminal'
[00:34] <MarcN> l3oddah: yes, that is normal.
[00:34] <Nicholas> I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed and I tried to install Windows  XP on another partition, Windows XP said it would have to deactivate the Ubuntu partition, now, nothing will boot from the hard disk, I am using the LiveCD, could someone please help me? This is urgent.
[00:35] <aswear> how do i mount my cdrom drive manually?
[00:35] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven this looks to be a bug.
[00:35] <dethtoll> marfi just wondering cause i've tried multiple distros and all kinds of things (madwifi, NDIS, etc..) and still cant get it working :(
[00:35] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/174783
[00:35] <Rabbitbunny> Nicholas:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:35] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven were you just trying to do a distribution upgrade when this happened?
[00:36] <Marfi> dethtoll, have you tried googling it? i do know that ubuntu is compatable with TONS of wifi drivers
[00:36] <fizzle\nap> hey which version of ubuntu comes with compiz fusion?
[00:36] <zcat[1]> gutsy
[00:36] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod: yes, actually i did the upgrade some weeks back, toasted my machine, and am just now getting around to trying to fix it.
[00:37] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven give me the output of "
[00:37] <tcpdumpgod> "ldd myfile"
[00:37] <aswear> marfi?
[00:37] <aswear> how do i mount a cdrom manually?
[00:37] <Marfi> dethtoll, just found this on a quick search  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[00:37] <Marfi> aswear, sudo mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom
[00:37] <dodo_> how i can play windows player video 9 at ubuntu firefox!? thanks
[00:38] <Rabbitbunny> fizzle\nap: none.
[00:38] <Nicholas> Rabbitbunny: Thank you.
[00:38] <con-man> can someone recommend a good video player for me? I was quite happy with VLC, but it causes my system to lock up when compiz-fusion is running
[00:38] <mtraven> tcpdumpgod, it says myfile does not exist...
[00:38] <Marfi> aswear, you may have to use the filesystem if you know it. sudo mount -t <Filesystem> /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[00:38] <tcpdumpgod> oh dur.
[00:38] <tcpdumpgod> hold up
[00:38] <Marfi> aswear, and when typign...tab is your friend
[00:38] <crdlb> Rabbitbunny: err?
[00:38] <Nicholas> Rabbitbunny: That can't help me, I can't boot into any operating systems, Windows won't start either.
[00:39] <con-man> anyone?
[00:39] <Marfi> con-man, for music or video?
[00:39] <con-man> video
[00:39] <con-man> Im thinking xine or mplayer?
[00:39] <tcpdumpgod> hold mtraven
[00:39] <con-man> maybe totem?
[00:39] <Marfi> con-man, i love kaffeine or mplayer
[00:39] <Nicholas> Windows marked the Ubuntu partition as inactive.
[00:39] <Nicholas> Help?
[00:39] <dethtoll> marfi looking really good since it was also being displayed wrong
[00:39] <Rabbitbunny> Nicholas: So you don't see a GRUB menu at all?
[00:39] <gan|y|med> hi
[00:40] <Nicholas> No.
[00:40] <Marfi> dethtoll, =)
[00:40] <con-man> Nicholas: then delete the windows partition as punishment for microsoft
[00:40] <Riddick> con-man: you could build mplayer for your specific machine and see if that helps or you could just disable compiz as it could be a vid card issue with your current vid-card more than it is with vlc player which is good.
[00:40] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: so any suggestions?
[00:40] <Nicholas> Rabbitbunny: It just says: Operating system not found.
[00:40] <Marfi> Nicholas, you will have to download the drivers in order for windows to see it
[00:40] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: start by booting from the live CD..
[00:40] <migue1> Anyone with experience on installing Gutsy on a Compaq F565LA ?
[00:40] <con-man> Riddick: its only VLC that causes compiz -fusion to crash.
[00:40] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra not off the top of my head.
[00:40] <tcpdumpgod> Im not too sure on that one.
[00:40] <Marfi> Nicholas, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[00:40] <aswear> Marfi - how is tab my friend??
[00:40] <godzirra> Should I -be- using ndiswrapper?
[00:40] <Nicholas> I am running off the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[00:40] <con-man> Riddick: or rather, my system to lock up
[00:40] <gan|y|med> i am trying to install the X the edge driver for x.org ati, but i can't find a repo for them. i read the thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3321087, but there is no file under the link specified there
[00:41] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: ok.. open a terminal?
[00:41] <Nicholas> Windows will not start.
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra did you say you used restricted drivers manager to get your wireless card working?
[00:41] <Riddick> con-man: have you tried xine with all the addons or mplayer?
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> mtraven
[00:41] <con-man> Im thinking Xine
[00:41] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: I did.
[00:41] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: ok.. open a terminal and we'll see if we can find where everything is
[00:41] <Nicholas> zcat[1]: I opened a terminal.
[00:41] <con-man> it looks nicer than mplayer
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> paste me the output of "ls -al /usr/local/lib"
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> in a pastebin.
[00:41] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: me?  or someone else?
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra "lsmod |grep ndis"
[00:41] <zcat[1]> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda -- anything in there about NTFS or EXT3 ?
[00:41] <tcpdumpgod> see ndiswrapper in there god?
[00:41] <Marfi> aswear, whenever typing in the terminal, you can type a few letters then hit tab, and it will finish the rest for you. for example, i run wow from the terminal...but it would take a good 3 minutes to type everything with the escape characters. i can type "Wo [tab]" and it will finish the rest for me. using tab in the terminal cuts your time, its just a shortcut
[00:42] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: already did that, but no ndiswrapper.
[00:42] <zcat[1]> sorry.. it will be NTFS or Linux
[00:42] <tcpdumpgod> godzirra "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[00:42] <fallore> you know how in windows if you click the scroll wheel down it gives you a nice wheel you can move up or down to scroll in firefox? is there a way to have that in linux?
[00:42] <con-man> Riddick: but im not sure about plugins for xine. dont see any listed in the synaptic package manager
[00:42] <aswear> okay
[00:42] <aswear> thanks
[00:42] <Nicholas> It didn't say anything.
[00:42] <Nicholas> zcat
[00:42] <Marfi> con-man, check mozilla in synaptic. thats what it starts with
[00:42] <godzirra> tcpdumpgod: now I've got this when I do an lsmod:  ndiswrapper           185240  0
[00:42] <MarcN> fallore: just use the scroll wheel, mine works fine.   (Unless windows does something else)
[00:42] <godzirra> usbcore               138632  4 ndiswrapper,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[00:43] <Riddick> you will have to enable universe.  that way you get libdvdcss, etc needed to play dvds etc.  xine does have the best dvd menu support.
[00:43] <zcat[1]> how about sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[00:43] <jayde_drag0n> can anyone help me figure out if i need drivers or to rewrite something in a program.. no matter what i cannot burn a cd and the drive does work and play cds just fine and the system recognizes it... it just won't burn
[00:43] <tcpdumpgod> ok godzirra and mtraven  join me  in #ubuntugurus
[00:43] <Marfi> con-man, mozilla-mplayer
[00:43] <fallore> MarcN: the scroll wheel (scrolling it up and down) works fine, but in windows if you clicked that wheel down the browser would let you scroll up and down by moving your mouse up and down respectively
[00:44] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: when you say 'it didn't say anything' is it showing no partitions, or complaining there's no such device, or really actually 'nothing at all' ?
[00:44] <Nicholas> zcat[1]: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50445/plain/
[00:44] <con-man> Riddick: I universe enabled.
[00:44] <Dirt> when i enabled the driver in the restricted manager, onrestart my resolution went whack and i can't navigate at all
[00:44] <MarcN> fallore: Clearly I don't use windows often enough to know about that.  Sorry.
[00:44] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: ok .. sudo -i
[00:44] <fallore> np MarcN
[00:45] <migue1> Anyone with experience on installing Gutsy on a Compaq F565LA (or a similar serie)?
[00:45] <fizzle\nap> guys how would i get ubuntu to look exactly like this (same theme) http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[00:45] <con-man> Riddick: and I can play DVDs fine
[00:45] <fizzle\nap> sorry for the spam too
[00:45] <Nicholas> It now says: root@ubuntu
[00:45] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: when you have a root shell, fsck /dev/sda1
[00:45] <alesan> !raid
[00:45] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[00:45] <Dirt> so if anyone has any information on getting my resolution to normal, or disabling the nvidia driver as it was whne first installed, greatly appreciate it
[00:45] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: or perhaps fsck -a /dev/sda1
[00:45] <Nicholas> It says running it on a mounted filesystem could damage it.
[00:46] <Nicholas> n
[00:46] <zcat[1]> Oh... curious.
[00:46] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: df, find out where it's mounted
[00:46] <Nicholas> n
[00:46] <jayde_drag0n> can someone please help me? help me figure out if i need drivers or to rewrite something in a program.. no matter what i cannot burn a cd and the drive does work and play cds just fine and the system recognizes it... it just won't burn... and i have to burn this song before the 5th
[00:46] <Nicholas> Sorry.
[00:47] <tiredbones> I'm trying to get smplayer to play a dvd. I did Apllication -> Add/Remove and keyed in ubuntu-restricted-extras. When I checked the box I did not get an APPLY button. I what am i missing?
[00:47] <aswear> Marfi
[00:47] <aswear> i still can't get dhcpcd to install
[00:47] <Marfi> aswear, yessm? =)
[00:47] <Dirt> when i enabled the nvidia accelerated graphics driver, my resolution went haywire on restart, i can't navigate at all, how can i get it back to normal, im on the bootdisc at the moment, anyhelp?
[00:47] <migue1> Anyone with experience on installing Gutsy on a Compaq F565LA ?
[00:47] <Nicholas> zcat[1]: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50447/
[00:48] <aswear> Marfi - i'm not connected to the internet, but even when I mount the cdrom at /media/cdrom apt-get does not find the dhcpcd package
[00:48] <Marfi> aswear, it will have to be installed from a cd, or from a thumb drive if you have one
[00:49] <Rabbitbunny> migue1: Are you having a particular problem?
[00:49] <wols> aswear: you#re not suppseod to mount it
[00:49] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: I guess it's OK then... grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk /dev/sda
[00:49] <aswear> wols then what am i supposed to do
[00:49] <zcat[1]> With any luck that will fix up grub for you
[00:49] <wols> aswear: have a deb-cdrom line in your sources.list and apt will ask for it it there is the package on that CD
[00:50] <Nicholas> zcat[1]: Ok, is there any way to just set that partition active again?
[00:50] <zcat[1]> fdisk /dev/sda
[00:50] <zcat[1]> Oh, hang on..
[00:50] <zcat[1]> umount /dev/sda1   THEN  fdisk /dev/sda
[00:51] <Dirt> when i enabled the nvidia accelerated graphics driver, my resolution went haywire on restart, i can't navigate at all, how can i get it back to normal, I'm on the bootdisc at the moment, anyhelp?
[00:52] <zcat[1]> one of the fdisk options (type ?) will make the partiton active again
[00:52] <zcat[1]> !res | dirt
[00:52] <ubotu> dirt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:53] <revilodraw> often when i use amsn ppl cant read what i say... any known causes?
[00:53] <pootietang> I need some digital camera help
[00:53] <Marfi> im off...later yall!
[00:53]  * Marfi waves
[00:53] <pvl1> are there keys to close tabs in firefox
[00:53] <pootietang> An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[00:53] <pootietang> *** Error (-53: 'Could not claim the USB device') ***
[00:54] <aswear> wols
[00:54] <pootietang> ive got a cybershot
[00:54] <aswear> and
[00:54] <aswear> marfi
[00:54] <zcat[1]> Yeah.. I have a sick puppy to deal with (Puppy linux that is.. friend from way back wants some help)
[00:54] <aswear> there were two entries on /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:54] <aswear> deb cdrom.....
[00:54] <solomon> my cpu is more than a bit dodgy and i have had success with using cpufreq to underclock it and avoid crashes... but now i've had to reinstall and the install process won't complete without a lockup.  is there a way to access cpu frequency scaling from the xubuntu text-mode installer, or to in some other way artificially slow down the installer to try and avoid triggering my CPU problems until i've got an installed system?
[00:54] <zcat[1]> Nicholas: Anyhow, if reinstalling grub and marking the partition active didn't help, you might be looking at a reinstall..
[00:54] <aswear> but the first was commented
[00:55] <aswear> i uncommented both, and sudo apt-get install dhcpcd is still unable to be found
[00:55] <qbert> how do I turn the volumne up on the command line, im using icewm as my window manager
[00:55] <zcat[1]> qbert: alsamixer ?
[00:55] <qbert> zcat[1], perfect :)
[00:55] <revilodraw> how do i turn the firewall off?
[00:56] <pootietang> can someone take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50449/
[00:56] <wols> aswear: apt-get update
[00:56] <pvl1> are there key combinations to close a tab in firefox
[00:56] <Shpook> Is there a way to map mouse buttons so they have back/forward function in Firefox, without installing imwheel?
[00:57] <Oli``> pvl1: ctrl+w
[00:57] <aswear> wols what am i supposed to get back from term?
[00:57] <Oli``> Shpook: there's an app called btnx
[00:57] <pvl1> Oli``, thanks
[00:57] <wols> aswear: a few messages about updated repos
[00:58] <Shpook> Oli``: I tried btnx, it wouldn't install. Also, I'd prefer to "try" and do it just through remapping, an no add-on software.
[00:58] <revilodraw> how do i turn the firewall off?
[00:58] <Shpook> Oli``: I've read a few posts on the forums where it was functional by default for some people, but never found a method.
[00:59] <hdevalence> Can someone help me with my xrandr configuration? I'm not sure if I did it properly. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50451/
[00:59] <IdleOne> !firewall | revilodraw
[00:59] <ubotu> revilodraw: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:59] <|ns|nR8> firewall is disabled by default
[00:59] <|ns|nR8> as far as i know
[00:59] <Dirt> alright, well instead of messing with my xorg.conf is there anyway i can just disable the nvidia accelerated driver from this bootdisc so when i load back onto ubuntu its back to normal?
[00:59] <Shpook> I'm using a trackball, and have button 8 mapped to initiate scrolling after a 300ms delay. Now I want to map buttons 8 and 9 to forward and back.
[01:00] <ubuntu_> Hi.
[01:00] <Oli``> Shpook: you could always try and dissect PCLinuxOS2007 - that handles the back button by default; but btnx is enough for me, plus I love its profile-based mapping so I can swap everything around for different apps
[01:00] <ubuntu_> Sorry, i'm having internet connection problems.
[01:00] <IdleOne> !hi | ubuntu_
[01:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:00] <Rabbitbunny> Does anyone happen to know of a utility to choose between GNOME/KDE/XFCE on login ?
[01:00] <Linuturk> there is a file called nautilus-debug-log.txt in my home folder. Can anyone analize it and tell me what it is about?
[01:01] <IdleOne> Rabbitbunny: click on the sessions button at the login screen
[01:01] <ubuntu_> zcat[1]: It expects me to type something now.
[01:01] <Rabbitbunny> IdleOne: Thanks.
[01:01] <Shpook> Oli``: It looked good to me from the screenshots, and btnx-config installed fine, but btnx itself wouldn't install. It wouldn't build from source either. :-(
[01:01] <Nicholas-2> Sorry about that.
[01:02] <Nicholas-2> zcat[1]: It expects me to type something now.
[01:02] <aswear> wols it said it failed to index
[01:02] <Oli``> Shpook: have you altered your xorg config to make it work?
[01:02] <Shpook> I'll double check the dependencies and see if I can get it to work.
 zcat[1]: It says: "Command (m for help): ".
[01:03] <aswear> wols are you sure i'm not supposed to mount the cdrom??
[01:03] <Shpook> Oli``: Which, btnx? Or the back/forward function?
[01:03] <Nicholas-2> zcat[1]: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50448/plain/
[01:03] <Nicholas-2> This is Nicholas, btw.
[01:03] <Nicholas-2> With the dual boot problem.
[01:03] <Oli``> Shpook: btnx... it's very fussy about what you've got in xorg under the mouse section
[01:03] <aswear> wols could it be i mounted at the wrong mount point?
[01:03] <Nicholas-2> zcat[1]: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50450/plain/
[01:03] <Dirt> alright, well instead of messing with my xorg.conf is there anyway i can just disable the nvidia accelerated driver from this bootdisc so when i load back onto ubuntu its back to normal?
[01:03] <Oli``> Shpook: I'll paste you mine
[01:04] <reuben> ddsfds
[01:04] <reuben> Hi people
[01:04] <Shpook> Oli``: Ahhh, no I didn't...will that keep it from installing correctly?
[01:04] <reuben> AM NEW
[01:04] <alesan> !raid
[01:04] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[01:05] <Dirt> !res
[01:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:05] <Nicholas-2> Hello.
[01:06] <Oli``> Shpook: did you get my private message?
[01:06] <pfeels> hey nick
[01:06] <Nicholas-2> I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed on a partition and tried to install Windows XP to another. Nothing will boot now. I am using the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[01:06] <sunogbaga> Nicholas-2,  install windows first
[01:06] <wols> !grub | Nicholas-2
[01:07] <ubotu> Nicholas-2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:07] <FantasticFoo> anyone have a link to the ati catalyst driver v7.11? 7.12 won't support my 1680x1050 monitor...
[01:07] <Dirt> alright, well instead of messing with my xorg.conf is there anyway i can just disable the nvidia accelerated driver from this bootdisc so when i load back onto ubuntu its dsiabled rather then enabled, should be rather simple, im thinking nothing more then opening a file and changing enabled to disabled, anyone?
[01:07] <Oli``> Shpook: in case you didn't: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50452/
[01:08] <Nicholas-2> Ok, well I just want to recover Ubuntu now, and my files too.
[01:08] <dusty-sts> Nicholas-2, What is the issue, just joined in the convo.
[01:09] <Oli``> Nicholas-2: what did you let XP setup do to your HD?
[01:09] <Shpook> Oli``: I got it, thank you :-)
[01:09] <Nicholas-2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50453/plain/
[01:09] <Nicholas-2> It said it deactivated the Ubuntu partition.
[01:10] <Oli``> is ubuntu the first partition on the HD?
[01:10] <jcg42> I get this: http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weekalarmerrorim4.png when I try to start the weekalarm script in Amarok. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it?
[01:10] <Dirt> will  sudo nvidia-glx-config disable -- turn off nvidia accelerated graphics driver?
[01:11] <Oli``> jcg42: you may want to try #kde or #amarok
[01:11] <bmk789> is there a way to use bootsplash themes without rebuilding a kernel
[01:11] <Nicholas-2> dusty-sts: I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed on a partition and tried to install Windows XP to another. Nothing will boot now. I am using the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[01:12] <|ns|nR8> Nicholas-2, try again, this time install xp first
[01:12] <XxValetexX> hello all
[01:12] <Nicholas-2> Oli``: Yes, Ubuntu is the first partition.
[01:12] <dusty-sts> Nicholas-2, You are doing the right thing... boot from the live cd, remove the boot loader so it boots whatever was installed on the HDD first.  Then use the livecd again to mount the partitions and copy the files to the bootable os partition.
[01:12] <Nicholas-2> I can't remove it. I just want to recover ubuntu and my files now, I can't access the files on that partition.
[01:13] <fallore> you know how in windows if you click the scroll wheel down it gives you a nice wheel you can move up or down to scroll in firefox? is there a way to have that in linux?
[01:13] <Nicholas-2> I deleted the partition I tried to install WIndows to.
[01:13] <XxValetexX> I just 'installed' xfce over a ubuntu installation. When I start the computer, after the grub, that orange bar with the ubuntu logo is shown. How do I change that to Xubuntu?
[01:13] <crimsun> fallore: yes, there are tips abound for that.
[01:13] <Nicholas-2> dusty-sts
[01:13] <Oli``> Nicholas-2: so type "grub" then when the prompt comes up, "root hd(0,0)", then "setup hd(0)", then "quit" and restart
[01:13] <kazol> How do I view a remote Ubuntu desktop?
[01:13] <fallore> crimsun:  i've been looking for a while, think you could direct me?
[01:13] <dusty-sts> Nicholas-2, ?
[01:13] <albatross27> Does Parallels coherence mode work with Ubuntu?
[01:13] <NewUbuntuFan> wierd fallore, cause mine does that by default apparently
[01:14] <Nicholas-2> Ok.
[01:14] <Oli``> Nicholas-2: (that's assuming you just have one HD)
[01:14] <dusty-sts> kazol, Via a remote desktop software such as krdc?
[01:14] <kbrosnan> fallore: edit -> prefernces -> advanced
[01:14] <crimsun> fallore: you need to unpack and edit a .js
[01:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know where i could find a log for .deb packages? im trying to find out why certain file doesnt get created
[01:14] <Nicholas-2> I have several partitions.
[01:14] <xtas> hmm
[01:14] <Nicholas-2> and one hard drive.
[01:14] <crimsun> UBUNTUISLOVED: meaning installing/removing debs?
[01:14] <dusty-sts> Nicholas-2, Be more specific in your question please.
[01:14] <fallore> NewUbuntuFan: do you mean when you click the scroll wheel down or when you just scroll it?
[01:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> *log for when i install i mean
[01:14] <kazol> dusty-sts: The default Ubuntu one.
[01:14] <crimsun> UBUNTUISLOVED: /var/log/dpkg*
[01:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ya
[01:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> thanks
[01:14] <tcpdumpgod> UBUNTUISLOVED look in /var/log/apt
[01:14] <kbrosnan> crimsun: why would you edit a .js when there is a checkbox
[01:14] <dusty-sts> kazol, Not sure, just use krdc.
[01:14] <xtas> How can I change resolution from 1024 x 768 -> 1280 x 1024. 1024 x 768 is the highest option there.
[01:15] <crimsun> kbrosnan: because I can't assume anything about the user's version of the software?
[01:15] <kdubois> does ubuntu use xorg 7.1?
[01:15] <fallore> kbrosnan: are you talking about the "smooth scrolling" checkmark box?
[01:15] <albatross27> I think so
[01:15] <dusty-sts> xtas, edit the xorg.conf or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or xfree86 whichever you use.
[01:15] <dusty-sts> xtas, Or use some tool in your desktop, such as gnome control panel -> display.
[01:15] <Nicholas-2> dusty-sts: I am trying what you said now.
[01:15] <fallore> ah, no, the autoscrolling checkmark
[01:15] <kbrosnan> fallore: yeah
[01:15] <fallore> thank you kbrosnan!
[01:15] <dusty-sts> Nicholas-2, What I said will save your data.
[01:16] <kbrosnan> crimsun: has been in every version of firefox
[01:16] <xtas> dusty-sts: I went System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, but theres not enough options. Just installed this ubuntu so I'm abit noob ;)
[01:16] <Nicholas-2> Oh.
[01:16] <Nicholas-2> :(
[01:16] <Nicholas-2> Is there anything else I can do?
[01:16] <kazol> How do I view a remote Ubuntu desktop (using the default Ubuntu app)?
[01:16] <PurpZeY> xtas: You have to configure to add the non-native res
[01:16] <xtas> hm ookay
[01:16] <crimsun> kbrosnan: really?  Every one?
[01:16] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i installed oracle-xe from repositories and also from trying it on oracle's website .deb package nothing seems to add up why its not creating the /etc/init.d/oracle-xe script that it needs to create the first database
[01:16] <Nicholas-2> I can't access my data through the LiveCD, btw.
[01:16] <Nicholas-2> I really need to restore Ubuntu.
[01:16] <PurpZeY> kazol: I hear that, that program really doesn't work that well.
[01:16] <aswear> wols, did you get that??
[01:17] <|ns|nR8> kazol, enable remote desktop, then there is connection issues if the server is behind a router
[01:17] <PurpZeY> Nicholas-2: What happened to it?
[01:17] <Nicholas-2> It said unrecognized device string.
[01:17] <|ns|nR8> will have to port forward
[01:17] <Nicholas-2> It denied me permission.
[01:17] <PurpZeY> Nicholas-2: What I mean is, why are you on the liveCD?
[01:17] <Dirt> so dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will restart your xorg to default?
[01:17] <Nicholas-2> Because Ubuntu won't boot, nor Windows.
[01:17] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone know why? wouldn't it log that issue in /var/log ?
[01:17] <Dirt> i too am on my livecd
[01:18] <Nicholas-2> Windows disabled my Ubuntu partition because it couldn't access it.
[01:18] <tcpdumpgod> UBUNTUISLOVED look in /var/log/apt
[01:18] <dusty-sts> xtas, reconfigure your monitor and graphics card then.
[01:18] <PurpZeY> Nicholas-2: You need to reconfigure grub.
[01:18] <PurpZeY> !grub | Nicholas-2
[01:18] <ubotu> Nicholas-2: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:18] <Dirt> dusty think you can give me a slight be of advice?
[01:18] <Dirt> be=bit
[01:18] <crimsun> UBUNTUISLOVED: to debug you really need the source package
[01:18] <Nicholas-2> PurpZey: I was using the ext3 file system.
[01:18] <brophat> anyone use the Pan newsreader?
[01:18] <PurpZeY> Nicholas-2: There is a guide...for recovering partitions lost to windows. See above
[01:19] <|ns|nR8> yes brophat
[01:19] <xtas> I have no clue how is that reconfiguration done
[01:19] <Dirt> ^
[01:19] <Dirt> is my typing even vissibile at this point
[01:19] <UBUNTUISLOVED> k i'll search for the source packages
[01:19] <eHome> how to stop openvpn in ubuntu - googled for a while and cannot find it
[01:19] <fallore> dirt: i see your typing.
[01:19] <brophat> |ns|nR8 does it often only display half or a quarter of a pic?
[01:19] <eHome> openvpn client stop
[01:20] <PurpZeY> Dirt: I believe the command you are suggesting is correct
[01:20] <|ns|nR8> yes, its not pan brophat
[01:20] <|ns|nR8> its the sener of the file
[01:20] <|ns|nR8> sender
[01:20] <MegaMorph> hi
[01:20] <MegaMorph> i have a question about cron
[01:20] <tcpdumpgod> go for it MegaMorph
[01:20] <brophat> |ns|nR8 but the pic displays fine in a viewer
[01:20] <osmosis> Can anyone help me with this dpkg  apt-get install error?  http://dpaste.com/29601/
[01:21] <|ns|nR8> if you save the pic , it views fine in a viewer ?
[01:21] <MegaMorph> i do  /usr/bin/firefox file:///home/user/target.html in command line
[01:21] <brophat> |ns|nR8 yes exactly
[01:21] <|ns|nR8> hmm, interesting
[01:21] <MegaMorph> how can i get it to open the file with friefox through cron
[01:21] <tcpdumpgod> osmosis did you change anything in your sources.list?
[01:21] <tcpdumpgod> MegaMorph what the heck do you mean? LOL!
[01:21] <brophat> |ns|nR8 you have not noticed that?
[01:21] <fotoflo> i need to restore my root password, does anyone have a link with documentation ?
[01:21] <tcpdumpgod> Open firefox VIA cron?
[01:22] <tcpdumpgod> MegaMorph do you know what cron is for?
[01:22] <MegaMorph> yeh i want it to open firefox to a html file
[01:22] <|ns|nR8> no brophat , i noticed half pics missing in 2 different news readers but i never tried saving a pic
[01:22] <MegaMorph> yes i know what cron does
[01:22] <Dirt> i need to disable nvidia graphics accceleration, when i enabled it my resolution went crazy, i just want it off and my resolution back to normal, im on my livecd at the moment, any help on this?
[01:23] <brophat> |ns|nR8 if you save them and view them i guarantee they will display fine
[01:23] <PurpZeY> Dirt: Turn off restricted drivers manager. Or reconfigure as you suggested already
[01:23] <osmosis> tcpdumpgod: uhmm...well its a new install based on a debootstrap, so yah..i had to edit the sources.list
[01:23] <wols> !fixres | Dirt
[01:23] <ubotu> Dirt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:23] <|ns|nR8> ok i found a half pic brophat, lemme try
[01:23] <Dirt> i cant get anywhere man, i cant see my desktop at all when not on livecd, and the above is of no help wols
[01:23] <brophat> |ns|nR8 only thing i can think of is maybe it is a prob with sending pics in multi pieces maybe
[01:23] <Dirt> the above tells me how to fix it so its useable, i want it off alltogether
[01:23] <|ns|nR8> does the same here brophat
[01:24] <PurpZeY> Dirt: Do reconfigure.
[01:24] <|ns|nR8> works in viewer
[01:24] <|ns|nR8> interesting
[01:24] <brophat> |ns|nR8 the saved pic viewed ok?
[01:24] <Dirt> any idea how i can get to a konsole/terminal though once i load into ubuntu, as i said i cant see anything because of the whacked out res
[01:24] <MegaMorph> ok thanks tcpdumpgod  i appreciate the effort
[01:24] <|ns|nR8> yes brophat
[01:25] <|ns|nR8> you taught me something brophat , cheers :)
[01:25] <fallore> does ubuntu automatically recognize jump drives?
[01:25] <PurpZeY> fallore: should yes
[01:25] <fallore> bleh computer/the file management system wont even start up
[01:25] <brophat> |ns|nR8 my wild guess is that the prob lies when the pic is sent in multi pieces, and the newsreader only reads the first piece
[01:25] <PurpZeY> Dirt: ctrl + alt + f1 -- I **believe**
[01:25] <XxValetexX> How do I change the font size? X_X
[01:25] <XxValetexX> its so small I feel nearly blind
[01:25] <XxValetexX> =P
[01:25] <PurpZeY> !font | XxValetexX
[01:25] <ubotu> XxValetexX: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:26] <|ns|nR8> it usually can display multi chunks pics tho brophat
[01:26] <Nicholas-2> The LiveCD won't let me access the files on the Ubuntu partition (permission denied), is there any way to access them from the LiveCD?
[01:26] <dumnut> i installed 7.10 and opened browser but it says not cooneccted, i have linksys router for linux too, how do i setup computer to connect to internet?
[01:26] <ChrisULM> anybody know how to map ctrl-alt-del to open up system monitor?
[01:26] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Nicholas-2: did you try to su root
[01:26] <brophat> |ns|nR8 I was not even sure if pics are ever sent in multi pieces; so you say that sometimes they actually are?
[01:26] <chimp_> How do you close firefox but save the session so you can open it later (like what happens if you reboot with firefox open)
[01:27] <|ns|nR8> yes brophat
[01:27] <PurpZeY> dumnut: There is no specific setup, if it's all plugged in it should work
[01:27] <brophat> |ns|nR8 I have to guess it is related to that
[01:27] <UBUNTUISLOVED> PurpZeY: i've had jump drives not connect when they are not unmounted properly from windows
[01:27] <|ns|nR8> or it could be to do with the names it uses
[01:27] <|ns|nR8> not sure
[01:27] <PurpZeY> UBUNTUISLOVED: I did say usually
[01:27] <Nicholas-2> UBUNTUISLOVED: Yes, it says authentication failure.
[01:28] <brophat> |ns|nR8 whatever the reason, it is an annoying bug
[01:28] <Crooper> Anyone familiar with maemo?
[01:28] <omar_> no
[01:29] <astro76> Crooper, yes there is a #maemo channel
[01:29] <brophat> |ns|nR8 ok thanks, it is now a confirmed bug, I am gonna check into it
[01:29] <Crooper> Okay thanks
[01:29] <dumnut> PurpZeY ..that is w3hat i don undersatnand, i installed ok and have wireless router but it cannot conect, wonder if hardware has some trouble.
[01:29] <|ns|nR8> ive only noticed it happening for about 2 weeks brophat
[01:30] <brophat> |ns|nR8 i have noticed it for five years
[01:30] <PurpZeY> dumnut: You did not yet mention it was wireless...You need to configure it in nmapplet....To connect to it and put in WEP or WPA
[01:30] <Nicholas-2> What is the root password for the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[01:30] <preaction> Nicholas-2, there is none. sudo should just works without a password
[01:30] <phasegen> root
[01:30] <kdubois> Nicholas-2: access root with 'sudo su'
[01:30] <astro76> !root
[01:30] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:30] <LetterRip> any solutions for a freeze up with NVIDA drivers shortly afer waking from suspend?
[01:30] <preaction> and it's sudo -i, not sudo su
[01:30] <Nicholas-2> preaction: It asked me for a password.
[01:30] <LetterRip> or from sleep?
[01:31] <Nicholas-2> Ok.
[01:31] <Nicholas-2> Thank you kdubois.
[01:31] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: Suspend/Hibernate is generally troublesome
[01:31] <Nicholas-2> Ok.
[01:31] <dfcarney> Nicholas-2: if you want to create a root password, you can "sudo su -" then use "passwd" to set it
[01:31] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, yeah i know - but was hoping someone might have found a solution :)
[01:31] <astro76> !noroot | dfcarney
[01:31] <ubotu> dfcarney: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[01:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone ever see this? http://pastebin.org/13785
[01:31] <Nicholas-2> preaction: It says: "root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[01:31] <Nicholas-2> "
[01:32] <Nicholas-2> Thank you, dfcarney.
[01:32] <preaction> Nicholas-2, so? that means you're root. sudo -i gives you a root shell
[01:32] <Nicholas-2> Yes.
[01:32] <phasegen> anyone know how to modify internet access on a given machine so that it can access only two websites?
[01:32] <dumnut> PurpZeY ..ok i will do those, thank-you for your help.
[01:32] <fbc> yeah load aol on it
[01:33] <|ns|nR8> phasegen, iptables
[01:33] <|ns|nR8> install firestarter
[01:33] <astro76> !firestarter | phasegen
[01:33] <ubotu> phasegen: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:33] <phasegen> cool
[01:33] <Nicholas-2> It still says that I do not have permission to access the files on my Ubuntu partition.
[01:33] <phasegen> my kid is gonna hate this
[01:34] <fbc> How can I find sl-modem-daemon? The synaptics package manager doe snot seem to have it.
[01:34] <WorkingOnWise> is it a bad idea do mount /dev/sda4 to /home/user and /dev/sda1 to /home/user/folder ?
[01:35] <Nicholas-2> help?
[01:35] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, that's perfectly valid
[01:35] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: ty
[01:35] <dfcarney> phasegen: just pray that your kid doesn't figure out how to get root access to fix it
[01:35] <dfcarney> phasegen: :)
[01:35] <chifferchap> is the PS3's wireless device supported by Linux?
[01:35] <Mii> Oiii
[01:36] <LetterRip> phasegen heheh
[01:37] <bmt2> hello to all
[01:37] <bmt2> is there a way to change the way the splash screen looks when i first turn Ubuntu ?
[01:37] <astro76> !usplash | bmt2
[01:37] <ubotu> bmt2: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[01:38] <mindframe_> why is my system running slow all of the sudden?  seems like ubuntu installation degrade in performance over time.
[01:39] <dfcarney> mindframe_: same thing happened to me when i upgraded
[01:39] <fbc> I just have one thing to fix to make my transition from vista to ubuntu complete. I need the sl-modem daemon. Synaptics does not have it. Can someone help?
[01:39] <Nicholas-2> preaction?
[01:39] <Vadi> My nautilus refuses to start, it says  libtrackerclient.so.0 is missing. I already installed every tracker library I could. What can I do?
[01:39] <mindframe_> dfcarney, did you try to find the problem?
[01:39] <astro76> mindframe_, type top in terminal, see what is using cpu
[01:39] <|ns|nR8> mindframe_, open system m,onitor and see how much cpu is being used
[01:39] <preaction> Nicholas-2, what?
[01:40] <dfcarney> mindframe_: ipv6 was part of it, which i disabled...but i'm not sure what else is causing the trouble
[01:40] <Nicholas-2> I said sudo -i and now I am in a root shell, what do I do now?
[01:40] <mindframe_> astro76, it does it when im just using firefox.  no other processes are using much besides xorg
[01:41] <mindframe_> its just not nearly as responsive as it should/used to be
[01:41] <astro76> mindframe_, how much ram does your system have, and how much ram is firefox using now?
[01:41] <preaction> Nicholas-2, whatever you wanted to do that you thought required root?
[01:41] <bmt2> is there a step by step on how to change the usplash ?
[01:41] <astro76> mindframe_, firefox tends to grow over time :S
[01:41] <chifferchap> is that a 'no?'
[01:41] <mindframe_> 4GB
[01:41] <mindframe_> firefox is using just a little bit as i just started it
[01:41] <sandrot> just did usermod -G (without the -a) and now I'm not a sudoer, what's next?
[01:42] <mindframe_> astro76, theres no reason for this amd 6000+ to be performing this way
[01:42] <mindframe_> i boot into a live cd and its magically fast again
[01:43] <astro76> yes you mentioned it shouldn't be doing this, I'm sure everyone agrees ;)
[01:43] <WorkingOnWise> when the OS parses fstab, will the mounts Always happen in the order they are listed, no matter what?
[01:43] <mindframe_> its frustrating.
[01:43] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, yeah I was just thinking about this... not sure how that works
[01:44] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, did you have a problem or didn't try yet?
[01:44] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: is that a yeah it will always go in order?
[01:44] <preaction> WorkingOnWise, no. there are noauto mount that won't be automounted. and i expect the root filesystem would be first mounted, so it might be organized by mountpoint
[01:44] <Greevous> I'm trying to shrink a video file with avidemux, but it simply makes a copy of the original file. How can I apply the filters and save a smaller video?
[01:44] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, yeah I agree it probably mounts intelligently
[01:44] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: if the mounts are not in the right order, the second mount hides the first
[01:44] <mindframe_> well im going to reinstall with 64bit tonight
[01:45] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, mount must know upper level directories need mounted first
[01:45] <Nicholas-2> Thank you preaction!
[01:45] <detedagowa> hey all
[01:45] <Duo_Maxwell> happy new year!
[01:45] <Nicholas-2> I can access those files now.
[01:45] <Nicholas-2> :)
[01:45] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: so if the mounts do not go in the right order, I have to unmount and remount in the correct order. Havent tried it "live" yet. Still messing with truecrypt and partition encryption
[01:46] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, no I'm saying it will work correctly no matter the order in fstab
[01:46] <detedagowa> i messed up my linux distro after updating
[01:46] <detedagowa> to 7.04
[01:46] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: so the problem must have been because I mounted them manually, in the wrong order then huh?
[01:47] <chifferchap> Duo_Maxwell: up yours, gaywad.
[01:47] <Nicholas-2> So, install Windows, then Ubuntu?
[01:47] <detedagowa> i have windows already
[01:47] <|ns|nR8> makes it easier Nicholas-2
[01:47] <PurpZeY> !grub > Nicholas-2
[01:47] <Greevous> nevermind the avidemux...I restarted the program and it's encoding now... but weird that it didn't at first
[01:47] <Nicholas-2> Will GRUB be the boat loader for them or Windows'?
[01:47] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, yes by hand you would need to do it in the correct order, but on boot or with mount -a, mount will figure it out
[01:47] <PurpZeY> yes
[01:48] <astro76> !ohmy | chifferchap
[01:48] <ubotu> chifferchap: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:48] <preaction> Nicholas-2, yes, windows first then ubuntu. Grub can do both Windows and Linux and BSD and most OSes you might come across
[01:48] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: cool, so now I just gotta make sure the truecrypt volume mounts properly and I have 55GB of high security encrypted bliss :D
[01:48] <detedagowa> do i have to start over and reinstall linux if i messed it up with updating
[01:48] <Nicholas-2> purpzey: I typed !grub and it said event not found.
[01:48] <Vadi> My nautilus refuses to start, it says libtrackerclient.so.0 is missing. I already installed every tracker library I could. What can I do?
[01:48] <PurpZeY> !grub
[01:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:48] <unravel> detedagowa: can you elaborate on 'messed it up'?
[01:48] <preaction> Nicholas-2, read the private message sent by ubotu
[01:49] <hahafaha> Hello everyone
[01:49] <Nicholas-2> Ok.
[01:49] <Nicholas-2> Sorry.
[01:49] <detedagowa> it wont go past a certain spot in the loading phase
[01:49] <hahafaha> Firefox's flash plugin is causing my sound to die
[01:49] <astro76> Nicholas-2, !grub or other !trigger just tells ubotu to give you information, it's not a command
[01:49] <Nicholas-2> preaction: So I can't save this installation then?
[01:49] <PurpZeY> Vadi: Sounds like you moved or deleted a file on your filesystem somehow
[01:49] <preaction> Nicholas-2, sure you can. you want to re-install grub to your MBR?
[01:49] <PurpZeY> Nicholas-2: If it's XP you can
[01:49] <Vadi> PurpZeY: Well how can I fix that? I already reinstalled the libraries a few times.
[01:49] <skar> Has anyone had a problem with gftp 'overdownloading' a file?
[01:50] <Nicholas-2> preaction: Yes, how?
[01:50] <detedagowa> and when i do the recovery mode thing it sits at waiting for root filesystyem
[01:50] <chifferchap> !ohmy | ubotu
[01:50] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:50] <preaction> Nicholas-2, did you see what ubotu said above? Lost grub after installing windows?
[01:50] <Nicholas-2> That article didn't help me.
[01:50] <PurpZeY> Vadi: I'm not entirely sure I understand the problem
[01:50] <preaction> Nicholas-2, why not? what did you get hung up on?
[01:50] <Vadi> PurpZeY: My nautilus refuses to start.
[01:50] <PurpZeY> Vadi: I got that
[01:50] <detedagowa> i explain it better when i get back gotta go cut some wod to heat the house for the night bwe back in a bit k
[01:51] <Vadi> PurpZeY: Ah. Well, I don't know why it's like that either.
[01:51] <PurpZeY> What did you do, in order to lose the file?
[01:51] <ToddEDM> hey guys , i cant get DVDs to play on here, is there something i need to download?(codec
[01:51] <PurpZeY> !DVD ToddEDM
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd toddedm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <PurpZeY> !codec | ToddEDM
[01:51] <ubotu> ToddEDM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <ToddEDM> !codec
[01:51] <PurpZeY> !libdvd
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <LjL> !dvd
[01:52] <Vadi> PurpZeY: I did make install the 0.6.4 version of tracker, and the uninstall it. I'm not sure if that did it exactly though, because I didn't shut off my laptop for several days.
[01:52] <skar> My gftp has a problem with 'overdownloading' a file, how can I fix it?
[01:52] <murf3326> Hi folks, I think I just about have my Ubuntu 7.10 install tweaked the way I want.  The only necessity I'm really missing now is an iTunes substitute.  I know there are a few out there but I'm not sure which one would work best with my iPod Touch.  I'm just looking to transfer music and videos.  I don't care about access to the iTunes store.  Anyone out there have an iPod Touch working with Ubuntu?
[01:52] <Linuturk> back
[01:52] <FrozenData> I just changed from ipw3945 to iwl3945, the wi-fi is much more stable, but when it resumes from sleep, I've to restart for wi-fi to work, rmmod and modprobe didn't work. Any help?
[01:53] <PurpZeY> Vadi: Can't you just reinstall the file?
[01:53] <Vadi> murf3326: Try Amarok
[01:53] <FrozenData> PurpZeY, I did try that, that too didn't seem to work.
[01:53] <Nicholas-2> preaction: It said error while parsing number.
[01:53] <murf3326> vadi: I'll give it a hook, thanks!
[01:54] <preaction> Nicholas-2, at which point?
[01:54] <Nicholas-2> preaction: root (hd0,1)
[01:54] <PurpZeY> FrozenData: You sure the file is there/.
[01:54] <PurpZeY> ?
[01:54] <Nicholas-2> Sorry.
[01:54] <hahafaha> when I play any Youtube, etc video in Firefox, sound in the rest of the system doesn't work until Firefox is closed... As far as I can tell, this is unique to Firefox
[01:55] <Nicholas-2> I mistyped it.
[01:55] <Nicholas-2> It worked now.
[01:55] <hahafaha> (i.e. not Opera, etc.)
[01:55] <FrozenData> PurpZeY, file? I'm not sure what you mean.
[01:55] <Vadi> PurpZeY: Ah, I reinstalled the libtrackerclient0 library again, and nautilus started. Okay, next question - my friends linksys usb WUSB54GSC card isn't detected _at all_. Not even on lshw -C network. What can we do?
[01:55] <Nicholas-2> I'm sorry.
[01:55] <th0r> murf3326 I have been looking also for ipod software, and have not had any luck thus far. I found three packages that show promise...gpodder, gtkpod, and tripod. gtkpod scrambled my nano on first access so I had to use the itunes software to restore it to factory settings. I don't have pictures so haven't tried tripod, and gpodder didn't see the ipod even though gtkpod did
[01:55] <astro76> !enter | Nicholas-2
[01:55] <ubotu> Nicholas-2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:55] <PurpZeY> FrozenData: I think I had you confused. .. .
[01:55] <PurpZeY> Vadi: Is it supported?
[01:55] <Vadi> PurpZeY: How can I tell?
[01:55] <PurpZeY> !supported
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supported - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <hahafaha> what is happening is that Firefox is holding on to /dev/dsp even after the video is closed
[01:56] <hahafaha> how do I stop this from happening?
[01:56] <Zram49> Does anyone have and idea why my DVD-ROM locks up my sys?
[01:56] <PurpZeY> Vadi: There is a supported hardware list a wiki......
[01:56] <PurpZeY> !hardware
[01:56] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[01:56] <Vadi> murf3326: Oh, you can also ipodlinux.org
[01:56] <poonaani> th0r: i use banshee its a player thats syncs with ipods
[01:56] <preaction> Nicholas-2, don't worry about it, that's why we're here, to ask the right questions ;)
[01:56] <th0r> poonaani that's a kde app, right?
[01:56] <Nicholas-2> preaction: I typed setup (dh0) and it said "Cannot mount selected partition".
[01:56] <Nicholas-2> (hd0), sorry.
[01:57] <Nicholas-2> But I typed it correctly.
[01:57] <poonaani> th0r nop its gnome all the way...u might be thinking of amaroK
[01:57] <Sonicadvance1> I'm having a problem, each time I restart, I have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to get wireless internet. What do I do so I don't have to do that anymore?
[01:57] <Vadi> PurpZeY: The card is missing from the list there.
[01:57] <preaction> Nicholas-2, i would try the "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" section. it's a better solution imho. if you get hung up, feel free to ask the channel
[01:57] <th0r> poonaani possibly...will put banshee on the system and take a look. Most interested in getting my avi's onto the ipod. Got them converted, but have to use itunes to load them.
[01:58] <PurpZeY> Vadi: If it's not there, it is probably not supported, search the forums for the name.
[01:58] <Nicholas-2> preaction: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50456/plain/
[01:58] <Nicholas-2> Ok.
[01:58] <poonaani> th0r o well then you will need a standalone app most likely...i was talking about strictly music
[01:59] <poonaani> th)r have you tried floola?
[01:59] <mindframe_> how do i clone a list of packages to another system?
[01:59] <|ns|nR8> theres aptoncd
[01:59] <poonaani> th0r have you tried floola?
[01:59] <|ns|nR8> sorta wroks
[02:00] <murf3326> th0r: Thaks for the heads up on those apps.
[02:00] <|ns|nR8> that was for you mindframe_
[02:00] <th0r> poonaani I have Floola installed, but haven't yet given it a go. After losing the ipod the first time I got wary of the linux side and figured to stick with windows for that until I found some folks who were using the software. murf3326 just happened to ask the question <smile>
[02:00] <murf3326> Vadi: checking the site now.
[02:00] <preaction> Nicholas-2, you use root (hd0,1), but it says that /boot/grub/stage1 is at (hd0,0) (which is what you're supposed to use for root from what i understand of this tutorial)
[02:01] <th0r> poonaani I just checked and I have banshee here also...will take a look at it and hope it works.
[02:01] <pvl1> is there an ubuntu howto project? like to document howtos in the forums and so forth
[02:01] <PurpZeY> pvl1: A ton of them
[02:01] <poonaani> pvll try howtoforge
[02:01] <th0r> poonaani does banshee support video podcasts or audio only?
[02:01] <preaction> or the official ubuntu wiki perhaps?
[02:01] <mindframe_> |ns|nR8, isnt there a way to get a list from apt and then just tell the new system to install those packages?
[02:01] <astro76> pvl1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[02:01] <pvl1> poonaani, k thanks
[02:02] <pvl1> astro76, thnx
[02:02] <XxValetexX> hello all
[02:02] <poonaani> audio only i belive...thats why i recommended floola
[02:02] <XxValetexX> does anybody here uses xubuntu?
[02:02] <Nicholas-2> I'm going to reinstall them now.
[02:02] <WorkingOnWise> can I issue commands in fstab? like "truecrypt /root/home.txt -k /root/key /root/encrypted"
[02:02] <Fraeon> So, any ideas why my internet connection refuses to work at boot and needs an ifup/ifdown to work properly? Xubuntu here. :P
[02:02] <Nicholas-2> Thank you, i'll be back soon.
[02:03] <XxValetexX> the reason why I am asking is that I am having problems setting the font size in Xfce
[02:03] <poonaani> audio only i belive...thats why i recommended floola th0r
[02:03] <v3ctor> WorkingOnWise: no, you want to do something ike that in /etc/rc.local
[02:03] <IdleOne> XxValetexX and Fraeon #xubuntu can help
[02:03] <XxValetexX> IdleOne: thanks =]
[02:03] <IdleOne> !ops | poo_naani ( offensive nick )
[02:03] <ubotu> poo_naani ( offensive nick ): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[02:04] <Amaranth> poonaani: Change your nick.
[02:04] <poonaani> i did
[02:04] <troubled> ...
[02:04] <Amaranth> Change it to something not offensive
[02:04] <IdleOne> still offensive
[02:04] <Amaranth> I don't have time for games.
[02:04] <detedagowa> BAN
[02:04] <WorkingOnWise> v3ctor: i need to be sure this command happens Before fstab. is /etc/rc.local/ processed first?
[02:04] <detedagowa> lol
[02:04] <radiodude9845> hello!
[02:05] <v3ctor> WorkingOnWise: no, it is not
[02:05] <IdleOne> nick spamming with offensive nicks heh
[02:06] <WorkingOnWise> v3ctor: do u know where i can put a command to be sure it is run before fstab is processed?
[02:06] <Riotblade> Hey, anyone can recommend an app for me to convert AVI's to FLV?
[02:06] <madman91> hey guys
[02:06] <hahafaha> can someone help me with a curious problem?
[02:06] <PurpZeY> Riotblade: FFMPEG
[02:06] <PurpZeY> !ask | hahafaha
[02:06] <ubotu> hahafaha: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:06] <madman91> any idea why my terminal window won't scrol up when I use pageup ?
[02:06] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[02:06] <madman91> or down with pagedown
[02:07] <hahafaha> When I play a flash movie (e.g. on Youtube) in Firefox, and then close it, /dev/dsp is not released... as a result, any program besides Firefox that tries to play sounds fails. Killing Firefox solves the problem
[02:08] <IdleOne> hahafaha: sounds like a bug. report to launchpad.net
[02:08] <Bruno_> firefox doesnt work properly and is lethargically slow when im using amarok, how can i fix it?
[02:08] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all.. I've got a troublesome motherboard on my hands. I've had it for a while but never used it. It is a socket 478 800/533/400 (Pentium 4). It has a Pentium 4 3ghz/800 processor, 512mb PC2100 and an older AGP video card. I've tossed in several CPUs, ram and video cards and still when I power it up, nothing happens. Just the CPU fan and a flicker of hdd. Ideas?
[02:08] <Javid> don't use amarok?
[02:08]  * NineTeen67Comet monitor is blank
[02:08] <Riotblade> PurpZeY, know if it can change resolutions and bitrate?
[02:08] <hahafaha> IdleOne: Will do; however, is there any way to steal /dev/dsp back from it without killing it?
[02:08] <astro76> NineTeen67Comet, ask in #hardware
[02:09] <WorkingOnWise> where can I put a script to run and be absolutly sure it completed before fstab is called?
[02:09] <goldphish> I rebuilt linux-restricted-modules for my new custom kernel and everything worked fine. Booted once, everything works. Rebooted (same kernel) and now the nvidia module won't load; complaining about a version mismatch. Wtf?
[02:09] <PurpZeY> Riotblade: I believe FFMPEG and MENCODE can handle any of that
[02:09] <PurpZeY> mencoder*
[02:09] <Riotblade> well, I'm using mencoder right now as a standalone and 60% of my videos are off sync
[02:09] <ferric84> is it a bad idea to upgrade my version of wine when I already have working programs under my existing version?
[02:09] <v3ctor> WorkingOnWise: http://www.howtoforge.com/truecrypt_data_encryption
[02:09] <Bruno_> Javid: any other solution?
[02:09] <Javid> don't use firefox?
[02:09] <PurpZeY> Riotblade: My other suggestion would be FFMPEG
[02:09] <IdleOne> hahafaha: I wouldnt know. would think if firefox is holding it then the only way would be to kill pid. seems firefox is not closing properly
[02:10] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: the only time I have seen this is with a dead battery, and a corrupt bios.
[02:10] <rjs> Hello...What is the rt kernel?
[02:10] <Riotblade> PurpZeY, yeah but you said they have to work together to change bitrate and resolution :P
[02:10] <hahafaha> IdleOne: If Firefox is closed, all works fine... but if only the tab is closed, and the process remains running, it is not.
[02:10] <astro76> !rt | rjs
[02:10] <ubotu> rjs: The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/Gutsy
[02:10] <PurpZeY> Riotblade: If I  did I was unclear....I use those two programs converting and whatnot
[02:10] <Riotblade> nm, I think I got some good documentation
[02:10] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: I'll swap batts N see what'll happen .. thanks for an idea .. I was stoped cold ..
[02:11] <PurpZeY> !ops | offensive name
[02:11] <ubotu> offensive name: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[02:11] <Amaranth> eazyass: Change your nick.
[02:11] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: also, set the jumper to clear a cmos password after u swap batteries...it can clear a minor coruption sometimes.
[02:12] <IdleOne> hahafaha: like I said I really dont know sorry. but it does sound like a fairly serious bug so I would report
[02:12] <hahafaha> IdleOne: OK, thanks anyways
[02:12] <goldphish> The error I'm getting is "nvidia: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module". Which probably means it was compiled for a different kernel other than the current. This isn't the case though. I compiled it (I thought) for the kernel I am running
[02:12] <IdleOne> Amaranth: probably same person as before ban evading
[02:12] <Amaranth> eazyass: Last chance, change your nick.
[02:12] <WorkingOnWise> v3ctor: hehe...I am using that now, but it is flawed. As for the automatic boot mount, it looks like it wil work, but because of how I am mounting my partitions, the encrypted partion Must be enabled before fstab, or I will not have access to one of the mounts.
[02:13] <Amaranth> IdleOne: different host
[02:13] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: roger .. will do .. New batt is in just need to jumper'it
[02:13] <IdleOne> so he has multiple ips
[02:13] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: cool. lemme know if that does it...
[02:13] <IdleOne> any case seems the kids are out tonight
[02:14] <jdh6403> lol
[02:14] <jdh6403> why would someone harrass a tech help site
[02:15] <Amaranth> They have too much free time and not enough self esteem.
[02:15] <PurpZeY> Sometimes a person can only entertain themselves 4 times a day
[02:15] <jdh6403> thats what i was thinking too
[02:15] <IdleOne> jdh6403: there are as many reason as there are lamers
[02:15] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: still zip .. Kbd binks, hd rattles a click, and the CPU fan whirs away .. I'm stumped .. I don't have a floppy drive around to see about flashing the bios (not to mention there is nothing on the hdd right now) ..
[02:15] <wols> goldphish: using the same compiler as for the kernel?
[02:15] <jrattner1> Question: Has anyone ever been able to get cover art to transfer to there 3rd generation ipod yet?
[02:16] <jdh6403> anyone know the command to run in terminal to run nvidia-settings in root user mode?
[02:16] <Fraeon> One thing that's been bugging me with Linux is that on 2.4.x, my homepna connection worked out of the box, but 2.6.x has it broken so you have to poke around configs to enable it with proper settings
[02:16] <goldphish> wols: yep
[02:16] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[02:16] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: oh my....gimme a few mins to roll it around....we are sure theres a good monitor, right?
[02:16] <goldphish> wols: it worked once. I rebooted the machine just to make sure grub picked my new kernel as a default and now it doesn't work
[02:16] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: do u get any beeps?
[02:16] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: Yeah, it is the one that is normally my second (TwinView) and I just used it with another computer.
[02:17] <Bruno_> firefox doesnt work properly and is lethargically slow when im using amarok, how can i fix it?
[02:17] <Riotblade> PurpZeY, if this works, i'll love you forever
[02:17] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: No beeps .. there is a tinny green LED on the mobo that is on all the time ..
[02:17] <PurpZeY> The Next 30 seconds is fine
[02:18] <Empath> could someone help me with a ubuntu issue i'm having?:\
[02:18] <Javid> !ask
[02:18] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:18] <mw-home> hi -- trackerd is eating my CPU.  and it seems to do it every day.  what is it?
[02:18] <PurpZeY> Empath: Only one way to find out
[02:18] <Thorsten11> hello all
[02:18] <Empath> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on this new desktop I got
[02:19] <Thorsten11> ok
[02:19] <Empath> 7.10 of ubuntu, the hw of the desktop is a nvidia 8800gt(with 4gigs of ram) and a soundblaster x-fi sound card
[02:19] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: sure sounds like a corrupt of failed bios to me. its the only thing i know of, except disconnecting the speaker :) that would cause your problem...and it thats the case, usually theres no way to fix it short of replacing the bios chip itself...
[02:19] <Thorsten11> whats the actual problem?
[02:19] <WorkingOnWise> and iF that's...
[02:19] <Empath> but when i go to the regular install option, it hangs on "running local scripts" or something along those lines
[02:19] <justin__> hi, i need some help
[02:19] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: Copy that .. What a bummer, its the only mobo I have that's got SATA .. lol (My junk is all old otherwise)
[02:20] <detedagowa> hey all
[02:20] <PurpZeY> !ask | justin__
[02:20] <ubotu> justin__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:20] <Empath> so i try to do "run in safe graphics mode" and it goes to a black screen and the computer just keeps beeping
[02:20] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: is the bios socketed?
[02:20] <justin__> i got a program telling me that i need to be root to update but the only way i know to be root is to use sudo through termminal
[02:20] <Empath> unfortunately the computer runs fine in winblows :/
[02:20] <detedagowa> can somone help me with my upgrading problem?
[02:21] <PurpZeY> justin__: That'd  be the best way
[02:21] <danbhfive> !ask > detedagowa
[02:21] <justin__> well i gotta update through the program
[02:21] <detedagowa> !ask
[02:21] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:21] <detedagowa> oh lol
[02:21] <WorkingOnWise> justin__: what program is it?
[02:21] <PurpZeY> justin__: If you run it as sudo, that's no good?
[02:21] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: Looks like it .. PhienixBios chip in a brown plastic looking socket ..
[02:21] <justin__> ClamTk Virus Scanner
[02:21] <Lunar_Lamp> justin__, ubuntu doesn't come with a root account by default, however, you can do "sudo passwd" to set a password for it, and then you can type "su" to Switch User to root.
[02:22] <justin__> I tell it to update sugnatures and it says i gotta be root
[02:22] <astro76> !noroot | Lunar_Lamp
[02:22] <ubotu> Lunar_Lamp: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[02:22] <Empath> have you tried running it on sudo?
[02:22] <astro76> !sudo | justin__
[02:22] <ubotu> justin__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:22] <justin__> how do i do that
[02:22] <IdleOne> justin__: try gksudo clamtk to start the program then update signatures
[02:23] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: then u may be able to pirate one from ebay, somebodys junk system, FreeCycle.... make sure its the same chipset and cpu specs, u may be ok. It's worth a try anyhow...
[02:23] <PurpZeY> justin__: just add "sudo" to the beginning of whatever command (without "")
[02:23] <justin__> i know that
[02:23] <jdh6403> im just amazed at what ubuntu can do....i got proggys open over 4 diff desktops here, and it is only using about 430 megs of ram...windows vista just standing still for me took over 1300 megs of ram
[02:23] <justin__> its not a terminal command its a function in a program
[02:23] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, astro76, fair enough, though I still find using a nix system without root too odd :-)
[02:23] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: you mind reader .. lol .. I'm Googeling around right now ..
[02:23] <osmosis> do quicktime movies work inside firefox ?
[02:23] <danbhfive> osmosis yes
[02:23] <osmosis> on windows i had to install the quicktime plugin. how does it work on ubuntu ?
[02:23] <PurpZeY> osmosis: They should
[02:23] <astro76> Lunar_Lamp, I just use sudo -i if I need a shell
[02:23] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: :D I also hade to dump good hardware....
[02:23] <IdleOne> justin__: start the app with gksudo clamtk
[02:24] <justin__> ????
[02:24] <IdleOne> from terminal
[02:24] <danbhfive> osmosis right click, and open in the player, that should get you started
[02:24] <justin__> i dont know how to do that
[02:24] <Empath> i believe you just go to the add-remove option and install the codecs from there if it isn't installed already
[02:24] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: I can use this as an excuse to buy some new stuff .. My newest build is 2001 anyhow .. lol
[02:24] <IdleOne> justin__: open a terminal and type gksudo clamtk
[02:24] <Zoqaeski> Hello everyone
[02:24] <Empath> hi
[02:25] <bmoney> to all those who do not know.... tovid kicks ass
[02:25] <justin__> thank you
[02:25] <IdleOne> justin__: when the app starts it will be running with root privs. you can then update the signatures
[02:25] <Zoqaeski> I figured this would be the best place to ask a quick question on some networking issues I’ve been having with a fresh install of Gutsy
[02:25] <IdleOne> yeah your welcome
[02:25] <WorkingOnWise> NineTeen67Comet: oh my..yes, do use it as an excuse! No one should have to go that long on the same technology! Isn't it unlawfull to force old hardware on another person?  hehe....
[02:26] <Zoqaeski> For some reason, the network connection doesn’t work on Gutsy, yet it worked fine on 7.04
[02:27] <crush_groove> Zoqaeski,  specifics are a good thing
[02:27] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to autorun a script on mount, like autorun.inf in a cd in Windows, but not in gdm or gnome?
[02:27] <IdleOne> crush_groove: /me was trying to read his mind till you interrupted :P
[02:27] <astro76> !boot | WorkingOnWise
[02:27] <ubotu> WorkingOnWise: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:28] <rjs> WorkingOnWise: fstab is processed in /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh...so...if you create a script called, say, S34beforefstab.sh in /etc/rcS.d, it will run before any filesystems are mounted.
[02:28] <Zoqaeski> OK, it’s a wired network on ethernet using CAT5e cabling, and the computer is supposed to receive a DHCP address from a windows server
[02:28] <crush_groove> haha
[02:28] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, basically rc.local unless you make a daemon in which case update-rc.d
[02:28] <WorkingOnWise> rjs: so is it the S34, S35, and so on that decides the order?
[02:29] <IdleOne> Zoqaeski: System > administration>network and set the ip manualy.
[02:29] <ericmoritz\0> I'm running Xubuntu Gusty and whenever I plug in this sd card I get an error, "invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume" from gnome-mount
[02:29] <rjs> Yes
[02:29] <IdleOne> Zoqaeski: or select dhcp wich ever the case
[02:29] <Zoqaeski> IdleOne: Tried that, and it didn’t work
[02:29] <WorkingOnWise> rjs: that sounds like my solution then. ty
[02:29] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, oh yeah, rc.local will run last so if you need the order listen to rjs
[02:30] <rjs> yeah...always listen to me :-)
[02:30] <astro76> heh
[02:30] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: ty also. boy, encrypting a /home partition is no small task!
[02:30] <Zoqaeski> IdleOne: If I am reading the output of ifconfig correctly, I believe that the computer isn’t sending or receiving packets at all
[02:31] <pragma_> find gas
[02:31] <pragma_> :o
[02:31] <astro76> WorkingOnWise, it is so complicated, there are over 10 howtos on the wiki :O https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=encrypt&titlesearch=Titles
[02:31] <IdleOne> Zoqaeski: you have more then one nic card?
[02:32] <DeLtAIjK> is anyone willing/available to help a linux newbie out with connecting to the internet? ^_^
[02:32] <IdleOne> pragma_: this is not a fileserving channel
[02:32] <Zoqaeski> IdleOne: umm... not sure
[02:32] <ericmoritz\0> DeLtAIjK, what's up
[02:32] <IdleOne> ifconfig list eth0 and eth1 or...?
[02:32] <Zoqaeski> All I know is that the network card is an integrated gigabyte card
[02:33] <Zoqaeski> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4055063
[02:33] <Navarr0> type lspci
[02:33] <pragma_> IdleOne: I wasn't looking for files.
[02:33] <WorkingOnWise> astro76: if I can get the mount order down, I got it, finally!
[02:33] <Zoqaeski> IdleOne: I posted on the forums with the ifconfig result
[02:33] <ConstyXIV> is it possible to use a wifi card to scan for any sort of 2.4GHz signal (and more importantly, the freqs)?
[02:33] <DeLtAIjK> ericmoritz\0: I just installed ubuntu 7.04 onto a computer; looked at documentation/forums, but still can't get internet to work on the computer; I have a 5-port ethernet switch going to a university connection
[02:33] <pragma_> IdleOne: on a fileserver, anyway.
[02:34] <pragma_> cd ..
[02:34] <Navarr0> ehehe
[02:34] <ericmoritz\0> DeLtAIjK, are you using wifi or wired?
[02:34] <DeLtAIjK> wired.
[02:34] <ericmoritz\0> I assume wired
[02:34] <stewart__> hello, there seem to be 2 copys of avant-window opening at my startup. Whats the best way to change this. I am running 7.10
[02:35] <Navarr0> DeLtAIjK, check if that connection is provided by dhcp othervise u need subnet and gw
[02:35] <goldphish> Is there a way to use menuconfig to configure a kernel and still use debian/rules to build it?
[02:35] <DeLtAIjK> It is provided by dhcp, I think. It's the same connection as the one I'm using currently
[02:35] <Navarr0> connect your ubuntu and write dhclient
[02:36] <Navarr0> than ifconfig and check da ip
[02:38] <Zoqaeski> Navarr0: Here’s the output of lspci: http://senduit.com/b5eea5
[02:38] <DeLtAIjK> it doesn't give an ip address for eth0
[02:38] <makers_mark> what's going on people.
[02:38] <Navarr0> can u see eth0 ?
[02:38] <jdh6403> im not trying to brag or anything  but i am glad my ubuntu insyall has been pretty much trouble free...some of the probs people come in here with  my god  id go nuts
[02:39] <DeLtAIjK> on typing 'sudo dhclient,' i get something that says no DHCPOFFERS received
[02:39] <Navarr0> well ..
[02:39] <DeLtAIjK> <_<; I'm guessing there isn't DHCP...? but it's strange because this connection is using dhcp...
[02:39] <Navarr0> type ifconfig
[02:39] <simmerz> I can't get my machine to play back dvds. I've used regionset to set the drive to region 2 (uk/europe) and still nothing. I get: xine-lib: error: Read error from::  Error reading from DVD.
[02:39] <Navarr0> how many nics ?
[02:39] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: about the old hardware thing .. I did get a new MacBook Pro 17" back in Feb last year.. But I don't count that since it is used by the wife more than me now .. (I installed Hardy Alpha 1 and it's been awesome) .. She's getting her new MacBook Pro 15" this Feb .. "THEN" I'm going hardware shopping.. I'd love a mobo w/SATA and PCIe ..
[02:40] <DeLtAIjK> nics? I don't know what that means.
[02:40] <Navarr0> lol
[02:40] <Navarr0> network cards
[02:40] <DeLtAIjK> maybe you're referring to eth0, eth0:avah, lo?
[02:40] <Navarr0> right
[02:40] <mEck0> Hi! I have problems installing the driver for my 8800GT. I got it worked a couple of weeks ago, but I changed to Ubuntu now... When I boot up in recovery mode, I should get to the terminal only, but then I must start change to runlevel3 (otherwise the driver-installer complains). but when I type telinit 3, the xserver starts in low-gfx mode! which I don't want because it's not possible to install the driver with X running. what to do?
[02:40] <NineTeen67Comet> WorkingOnWise: darn'it .. FreeCycle has no one over here in Okinawa .. lol
[02:40] <NineTeen67Comet> off to shop
[02:41] <Zoqaeski> I’m getting the same results as DeLtAljiK from ifconfig and the rest
[02:41] <IdleOne> !dvd | simmerz
[02:41] <ubotu> simmerz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:41] <mnoir> after a recent upgrade, windows disappeared from menu.lst.  fdisk -lu shows hdb1 to be a bootable ntfs partition but grub doesnt want to boot it.  ???
[02:41] <DeLtAIjK> A while ago, I tried sudo pon dsl-provider
[02:41] <simmerz> IdleOne: yeah I followed that tool. I have everything installed that should be
[02:42] <DeLtAIjK> and sudo pppoeconf
[02:42] <simmerz> IdleOne: it's decrypting the dvd fine, but then it has a read error afterwards
[02:42] <DeLtAIjK> and I think in the end, it basically said that no internet connection was found.
[02:42] <Navarr0> DeLtAIjK, but..r u using a modem o wat ?
[02:42] <Navarr0> i mean on that pc
[02:43] <jrattner1> Question: If I have one laptop that runs linux, and another that runs windows, can I plug a USB cord between the two to of them, and transfer files from my linux laptop to my windows one?
[02:43] <IdleOne> simmerz: missing lib perhaps or dvd is corrupted
[02:43] <DeLtAIjK> uhm, I suppose so.
[02:43] <simmerz> dvd works fine in other machines. and which lib?
[02:43] <DeLtAIjK> "Sorry, I scanned 2 interfaces, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond...
[02:44] <FrostRat> jrattner1: yes, you can use samba to do that
[02:44] <Navarr0> if u type ifconfig is there an eth0 ?
[02:44] <DeLtAIjK> I also get the message SI0CSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[02:44] <FrostRat> jrattner1: not sure about the USB cord bit, but you can network the two
[02:44] <jrattner1> FrostRat, if I install samba, will my linux computer regognize the laptop i'm plugging in?
[02:45] <DeLtAIjK> Navarr0: yes there is.
[02:45] <IdleOne> simmerz: not sure to be honest
[02:45] <simmerz> IdleOne: I'm using medibuntu packages of things, but nothing seems to work
[02:45] <josspyker> jrattner1: use a cross cable
[02:45] <mrskateboy629> i have a problem with putting windows and a ubuntu on the same hard drive but diff partitions. the probelm is that after i logged into windows and restarted my computer, the grub boot loader wouldnt come up and my pc just loaded straight to windows
[02:45] <DeLtAIjK> The strange thing is, an hour ago, I could connect to the university network, and register my computer.
[02:45] <IdleOne> tried different players?
[02:45] <IdleOne> simmerz: ^
[02:45] <jrattner1> josspyker, you mean like an ethernet cord?
[02:45] <DeLtAIjK> It told me to restart the computer to connect to the internet.
[02:46] <trini> Hello ppl. I was wondering.. Is it possible to mount FATX partitions on Ubuntu7.04?
[02:46] <Abyssal> hi. currently i am entering the internet via terminal with the command sudo pon dsl-provider. does anyone know a programm on ubuntu for doing so? (graphical programm i mean)
[02:46] <Navarr0> weird...
[02:46] <josspyker> jrattner1: yes but it's not a standard cable
[02:46] <mrskateboy629> ???
[02:46] <deostroll> networking trouble. Can anyone help?
[02:46] <jrattner1> josspyker, if I use a standard cable it won't work?
[02:47] <josspyker> jrattner1: no
[02:47] <IdleOne> !pppoe
[02:47] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:47] <tucci> I accidentally deleted the top panel on my ubuntu setup, how do I add the drop down applications menu like there was in the default setup?
[02:47] <Slart_> trini: fatx?
[02:47] <mrskateboy629> can someone help me with linux
[02:47] <mrskateboy629> can someone help me with linux
[02:47] <mrskateboy629> i have a problem with putting windows and a ubuntu on the same hard drive but diff partitions. the probelm is that after i logged into windows and restarted my computer, the grub boot loader wouldnt come up and my pc just loaded straight to windows
[02:47] <PurpZeY> tucci: You go ahead and add a panel.
[02:47] <deostroll> Cannot connect to the internet. Plus the ADministration > Networking is not working...
[02:47] <jrattner1> josspyker, hmm intresting...thanks...and if i do have a crossover cable, will the computers recognize each other?
[02:47] <trini> Xbox partition table
[02:47] <PurpZeY> tucci: Then add to it, application launcher and system notification
[02:47] <FrostRat> jrattner: no, a crossover cable is used for computer-computer connections... a normal ethernet cable needs a router/hub/etc. between them
[02:47] <preaction> !grub | mrskateboy629
[02:47] <ubotu> mrskateboy629: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
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[02:47] <simmerz> IdleOne: just installing vlc to see if that works.
[02:48] <preaction> mrskateboy629, look at "Lost grub after installing windows"
[02:48] <josspyker> jrattner1: yes but you have to install samba
[02:48] <mrskateboy629> thanx
[02:48] <Abyssal> hi. currently i am entering the internet via terminal with the command sudo pon dsl-provider. does anyone know a programm on ubuntu for doing so? (graphical programm i mean)
[02:48] <IdleOne> simmerz: try installing libxine-dev perhaps but I am guessing
[02:48] <jrattner1> josspyker, thank you
[02:48] <DeLtAIjK> :/
[02:49] <Slart_> trini: ahh... haven't heard of it before.. but who knows.. you've searched the forums?
[02:49] <mannytu> !pidgin
[02:49] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[02:49] <trini> Yes.. A few treads but no answers
[02:49] <simmerz> IdleOne: mplayer shows the vid, but very very slow
[02:49] <IdleOne> simmerz: its a start
[02:49] <Slart_> trini: well.. keep asking.. someone might know
[02:50] <giami> hello
[02:50] <trini> OK tnx
[02:50] <cleaton> trini, why would you want fatx?
[02:50] <cleaton> isn't that what they used on the xbox?
[02:50] <skar> Quick question: if I remove my HDD, put in another one and use it for a bit, then put my old one back in, will it still work fine?
[02:50] <IdleOne> skar: the old one. yeah should boot up
[02:51] <cleaton> skar, as long as you don't hotplugg them
[02:51] <IdleOne> skar but why you doing that?
[02:51] <skar> cleaton: what do you mean by hotplug?
[02:51] <trini> I need to recover some files from my xbox (250GB aprox.) so FTP would take a lot of time.
[02:51] <cleaton> remove it while the computer is on
[02:51] <Beetle> Where would you like me to register my nick?
[02:51] <skar> IdleOne: I just wanna check if the other ones work fine
[02:51] <josspyker> jrattner1: with a cross cable you can share the internet connections between the two boxes by using firestarter
[02:51] <skar> IdleOne, Maybe install linux on them too.
[02:51] <IdleOne> he means make sure the machine is off before plugging the hd in
[02:51] <skar> cleaton: ah, I won't do that. :)
[02:51] <jrattner1> josspyker, i just want to move a LARGE amount of data between the two
[02:52] <skar> You can't hotplug HDD's anyways, can you?
[02:52] <jdh6403> IdleOne: do you know the terminal command to run nvidia-settings in root mode
[02:52] <PurpZeY> Not supposed to
[02:52] <josspyker> jrattner1: should be no problem
[02:52] <PurpZeY> that's for sure
[02:52] <skar> Ah.
[02:52] <cleaton> skar, there are probably some that you can, and with like usb disks you can, unless you have the os on them
[02:52] <jrattner1> josspyker,
[02:52] <IdleOne> jdh6403: use sudo
[02:52] <skar> cleaton: ahh I see.
[02:52] <jdh6403> ok
[02:53] <cleaton> i don't know with sata, but well always good to be on the safe side with disks :P
[02:53] <skar> I'm running this on a laptop, and I have about 3 more laptop HDD's lying around, so I'm thinking I might install linux on some and use some for data.
[02:53] <jrattner1> All day long i've been trying to get a program to transfer my music AND album art to my new ipod....The art just won't go..so now I'm moving my music collection to windows and then putting it on my ipod
[02:53] <skar> And maybe install windows on one too.
[02:53] <skar> For games.
[02:54] <cleaton> skal, ok =) sounds nice =)
[02:54] <skar> :D
[02:54] <skar> Thanks for your help, guys!
[02:54] <Anderson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50458/ any ideas?
[02:54] <Andrew23524534> Firefox says I need to install flash and then when I go to install it it says it's already installed. How do I get flash to work?
[02:54] <jdh6403> im still a bit uneasy about using terminal...reminds me too much of DOS  lol
[02:54] <krim> jrattner1: I'm doing the same in a few days, did you try GtkPod?
[02:55] <giami> i have searched google and forums but i cannot find anything.  so here i go.  ubuntu 7.10 installed (x64). i have my abit mobo, it has a dvi-to-hdmi connection connected to tv.  it works fine but i require higher resolution and faster graphics. so i installed my msi gforce 8600 GTS (PCi-express). i told the bios to load PCI-e card first then the onboard.  no luck getting it show any thing on tv.
[02:55] <boonz> question for some one, how do I join a diffferent usenet server from this one?
[02:55] <rppp01a> I'd just like to get ubuntu to stretch the desktop across both monitors - the laptop monitor and the attached one. Works fine in windows, but never done any desktop work in linux (I work on many *nixs at work).
[02:55] <cleaton> Andrew23524534, try and uninstall flash, and then install it with the guide on firefox again
[02:55] <cleaton> !flash
[02:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[02:55] <rppp01a> I figure the driver isn't correct, but any changes causes X to stop working.
[02:55] <mEck0> how can I kill the xserver?
[02:55] <josspyker> jrattner1: google for it,there is much to be found,windows is not my thing
[02:55] <Anderson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50458/ any ideas?
[02:55] <rppp01a> mEck0- ctrl alt backspace restarts it
[02:55] <cleaton> Andrew23524534, seems like the flashplugin is broken :(
[02:56] <trini> found this on the xbox-linux page: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/How_to_include_FATX_support_in_a_regular_Linux_kernel
[02:56] <jdh6403> i use gnash
[02:56] <root_> testé rrrrrrr
[02:56] <root_> grrr
[02:56] <jdh6403> works good enuff
[02:56] <Andrew23524534> thanks
[02:56] <trini> could it be aplied to ubuntu 7.04?
[02:56] <engku> rr
[02:56] <Andrew23524534> What's the difference between gnash and flash?
[02:56] <cleaton> trini, it could probably XD
[02:56] <engku> what
[02:56] <jdh6403> if i absolutgely hafta have a working flash   i run firefox in wine  and install flash from there   works like a charm
[02:56] <engku> i
[02:57] <engku> dddddddddd
[02:57] <nickrud> Andrew23524534, gnash is the sound your teeth make trying to use it to watch flash
[02:57] <cleaton> Andrew23524534, gnash is a opensource version that people are working on. it's  kinda in the early stages. and dosen't work with a lot of things
[02:57] <giami> so then i went back tthe bios and otld it load onboard first, then pci-e.  ubuntu loaded and lspci command shows that the gforce 8600 is detected.  i'm having trouble telling ubuntu to use the gefforce 8600.
[02:57] <engku> 666
[02:57] <mEck0> rppp01a, yeah I know, but I must kill it because I can't install the driver for my 8800GT otherwise. the system must also be in runlevel 3. Have problems with this. I can boot without x (from the recovery mode in grub), but when I type telinit3, the xserver starts in low-graphics mode!). :(
[02:57] <mannytu> :)
[02:57] <apocalypti> what is this "lost+found" folder taking up 15 gb of my new hard drive?
[02:58] <nickrud> mEck0, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. That will kill X, put you in a terminal suitable for running the nvidia installer. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start when you're done
[02:58] <Abyssal> hi. currently i am going into the internet via terminal with the command sudo pon dsl-provider. does anyone know a programm on ubuntu for doing so? (graphical programm i mean) has no one an idea?
[02:58] <mEck0> nickrud, ok, will try that, thx
[02:58] <pvl1> wahts the app thing at the bottom called on OSX?
[02:58] <trini> What kernel version does 7.04 use?
[02:58] <nickrud> mEck0, now, getting the nvidia driver to work right is another question :)
[02:58] <nickrud> trini, 2.6.20
[02:58] <giami> any insight on how i can get both devices to work (use onboard video card) -> hooked up to tv at HDMI-1 and gforce 8600 to use HDMI-2.  i have installed nvidia NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.07-pkg2.
[02:59] <apocalypti> what is this "lost+found" folder taking up 15 gb of my new hard drive?
[02:59] <tucci> thx
[02:59] <bruenig> apocalypti, delete it
[02:59] <nickrud> apocalypti, shouldn't be using that much space, it collects file fragments that get lost from the file system
[02:59] <jdh6403> i tried kubuntu....didnt like it as much as straight gnome ubuntu
[03:00] <apocalypti> nickrud: i cant delete, says i dont own the file. how do i change ownership?
[03:00] <nickrud> apocalypti, use sudo to delete it
[03:00] <bruenig> !sudo | apocalypti
[03:00] <ubotu> apocalypti: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:00] <mEck0> nickrud, hmm, the installer complains that the xserver is running even though I have stopped the gdm :S
[03:00] <trini> nickrud, is it possible to use 2.6.16 on it?
[03:00] <boonz> how do I change to the undernet server?
[03:00] <nia> wwwwww
[03:00] <nia> no
[03:00] <nickrud> mEck0, ps -A | grep Xorg , you see Xorg ? (not the ps -A command, you'll see that as well)
[03:00] <apocalypti> bruenig: thanks, ill try that
[03:01] <nia> SS
[03:01] <nickrud> trini, you can use any kernel you like, but feisty's other system software is tuned to use 2.6.20
[03:01] <mEck0> nickrud, yeah: 9182 tty7 00:00:01 Xorg
[03:02] <Mdance86> hello all...
[03:02] <boonz> exit
[03:02] <Mdance86> i need some help lol
[03:02] <TeslaDave> having trouble with x forwarding on my gusty machine when i log in remotely
[03:02] <nickrud> mEck0,  now  ps -A | grep  gdm , are you sure you killed it
[03:02] <giami> all i care about is getting 2 video cards working at the same time.  any insight would be cool.  i've searched the forums, but people are doing nvidia+ati , i just have nvidia(onboard) + nvidia (8600 pci-express).  lspci shows the 8600 detected.
[03:02] <nia> D
[03:02] <mEck0> nickrud, ps -A | grep  gd shows nothing
[03:03] <cleaton> trini, you said it was 250gb? why don't you just use ftp
[03:03] <Andrew23524534> Yay, I can watch youtube again! Thanks everyone
[03:03] <Mdance86> installing ubunti on old windows 98, and when i boot from cd, it says hdc: drive not ready for command
[03:03] <giami> i do not want dual display or anyhthing, i am just using the onboard so i can see something for now.
[03:03] <RenatoSilva> I've just installed Gutsy and it says me there is ~200MB of updates to download. Is this correct?
[03:03] <mEck0> nickrud, *gdm
[03:03] <jdh6403> there is nothing wrong with installing individual programs meant for KDE in gnome is there?  it wont break anything?
[03:03] <cleaton> trini, it takes 8-10h to transfere
[03:03] <nickrud> mEck0, then   finish with sudo killall Xorg . Why X kept running ....
[03:03] <mEck0> nickrud, ok
[03:03] <nia> OK
[03:03] <scotth> is anyone having problems with intel video cards not being able to display greater than 800x600 despite having the option to?
[03:03] <nickrud> jdh6403, not at all
[03:04] <jdh6403> ok
[03:04] <jdh6403> ty
[03:04] <Mdance86> Can anyone help me?
[03:04] <speeddemon8803> !ask
[03:04] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:04] <RenatoSilva>  I've just installed Gutsy and it says me there is ~200MB of updates to download. Is this correct?
[03:04] <Mdance86> !ask
[03:04] <mEck0> nickrud, this is really weird :S I wrote sudo killall Xorg and then X started and I am at the login screen now :S
[03:04] <giami> i had to seprate my question into to lines becuz i ran out of space sorry.
[03:04] <speeddemon8803> Mdance86 you dont have to double the commands :)
[03:05] <nickrud> mEck0, are you sure you're running ubuntu ???
[03:05] <FrostRat> RenatoSilva: That's probably about right...stuff gets updated / patched all the time
[03:05] <Mdance86> o lol
[03:05] <TeslaDave> renatosilvia could be i recieve updates nearly ever other day
[03:05] <mEck0> nickrud, yeah I'm really sure :D ubuntu 7.10 alternate i386 was the version I've installed a couple of hours ago
[03:06] <nickrud> mEck0,    clt-alt-f1  ,   login ,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop . Works for Me™ every time
[03:06] <giami> Anybody have done  nvidia(onboard) + nvidia (gforce 8600 pci-e) working at the same time in xorg?
[03:06] <mEck0> nickrud, will try that
[03:06] <Mdance86> Im installing Ubuntu on my old Windows 98, and  having trouble installing.  It says "Drive not realy for command"
[03:07] <Mdance86> i meant "ready" not realy
[03:07] <DeLtAIjK> is anyone willing to help with a network connection problem? i recently installed ubuntu 7.04 and internet there isn't working. it's plugged into an ethernet port on a univ connection. sudo ifconfig returns eth0, eth0:avah, and lo
[03:08] <murf3326> How is Ubunto 7.10 (32bit) at handling multi core CPUs?  I've noticed in the system monitor that it seems to be using both cores pretty evenly.
[03:08] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: not about ~200MB!
[03:08] <giami> anybody on my xorg question? (i don't want to repost and be a silly person on irc) =)
[03:08] <TeslaDave> Mdance did u try whipping out the drive completly like reformatting it
[03:08] <Mdance86> i havnt yet... but i even tried to run fdisk and it wont delete the partition
[03:09] <jrattner1> Question: If I have samba installed, and I plug both a windows and linux computer into my router, will i be able to see and write to my windows computer from the linux one?  And how?
[03:09] <FrostRat> RenatoSilva: I'd say that 200MB of updates isn't out of the ordinary... not to update every day, but after installing from CD?  Sure.
[03:09] <TeslaDave> Mdance, have you just tried running the live CD just to make sure everything runs ok
[03:09] <cleaton> murf3326, what do you mean with handle?
[03:09] <mEck0> nickrud, no, didn't work :( I can't understand why the heck ubuntu is starting the xserver when I type telinit3, it should be "only-textmode"
[03:09] <Mdance86> my old comp has problems opening it from windows
[03:09] <FrostRat> RenatoSilva: Of course, for those of us that have DSL/cable, it's nothing... but if somebody's connecting with dialup, it might suck. :D
[03:09] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: what should I do? I'm using dialed connection
[03:10] <giami> !ask
[03:10] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:10] <Mdance86> my hard drive fried?
[03:10] <nickrud> mEck0, no, that's a redhatism . Ubuntu/debian has the X server running in all 4 runlevels. Just do the gdm stop. As I said in the first post, you're ready to do the nvidia install at that point
[03:10] <Skiessi> !info scrollkeeper
[03:10] <ubotu> scrollkeeper: A free electronic cataloging system for documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.14-13ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 183 kB, installed size 3772 kB
[03:11] <TeslaDave> Mdance you boot the machine up with the liveCD in the drive, and it should not boot into windows it should boot straight to Ubuntu
[03:11] <FrostRat> RenatoSilva: I'd let it update... I wouldn't want to run a system with vulnerabilities
[03:11] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: what should I do? I'm using dialed connection
[03:11] <salty> is there a channel for ubuntu-embedded?
[03:11] <Mdance86> hmmm i just downloaded the iso and burned the image to a cd... it doesnt boot with out me changing the boot order... i think that might be it.
[03:11] <nickrud> mEck0, to be clear, don't telinit 3 :)
[03:12] <Mdance86> so it doesnt boot the hard drive officially
[03:12] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: let it for 3 months updating? rs
[03:12] <TeslaDave> Mdance if it still boots to windows, you may have to change your boot order in your bios, so that the CD drive is included in the boot order and i tend to keep it first in the boot order
[03:13] <Mdance86> Teslta, that is what i have done.  and it does boot the cd
[03:13] <giami> Question -> Need help on getting PCI-e (gforce 8600GTS) working on ubuntu.  (Currently onboard video is enabled and works with ubuntu).  lspci command shows device is detected (gforce8600).  need help on getting onboard + pci-e working at the same time in xorg. (checked forums but results are only for dual-screen setup and/or multiple nvidia+ati cards setup).
[03:13] <Mdance86> i try to install it, and it gives me that error
[03:13] <FrostRat> RenatoSilva: 3 months?  Even for dialup, you must have a slow connection
[03:13] <TeslaDave> When the Live CD boots you will then see that you have the option to boot live or install, i suggest running it live first to makes sure everything works
[03:13] <cleaton> Mdance86, how can you try and install when it dosen't even boot into ubuntu?
[03:13] <Mdance86> it DOES boot into ubunto
[03:13] <Mdance86> at least the installation screen
[03:13] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: I'm gonna calc now the exact time
[03:14] <cleaton> Mdance86, do you get praphical?
[03:14] <cleaton> grapical*
[03:14] <Mdance86> yes
[03:14] <Mdance86> graphical* lol yes
[03:14] <RenatoSilva> FrostRat: 200MB / 5KB/s
[03:14] <giami> livecd boots (spins up and shows activity) shows blank screen if i only try to hookup the pci-e card.  if i disable onboard on bios same thing happens.  so currently i told the bios to load onboard as primary display. (so i got ubuntu up now but in failsafe mode)
[03:15] <TeslaDave> Mdance have you actually gotten into the gnome environment with the live cd
[03:16] <mEck0> nickrud, YES YES YES :) now it worked :) just need to install libc and then it should work to install successfully. thx a lot!
[03:16] <zubuntu> i have an external hard drive and i formatted it from NTFS to ext3, now the drive belongs to root, and i don't have permission to read or write the drive how do i change the permissions?
[03:16] <Mdance86> no i havnt
[03:16] <Mdance86> i will try that now
[03:17] <cleaton> >>
[03:17] <giami> i was willing to load the livecd to do fresh install, but i can't get any signal with the pci-e nvidia gforce 8600. (just a blank screen).  so i'm left with onboard working and pci-e card is detected but not configured.
[03:17] <tcpdumpgod> w00t
[03:17] <cleaton> then you haven't started the install process
[03:17] <nickrud> mEck0, sudo aptitude install  build-essential   linux-headers-$(uname -r)   , and it should build
[03:17] <TeslaDave> Mdance what kind of machine do you have, if its old like really old you may have problems with graphics
[03:17] <mEck0> nickrud, thx!
[03:18] <zubuntu> how do i change the owner of an external hard drive from root to a regular user?
[03:18] <Mdance86> it is very old... i built it years ago
[03:18] <Mdance86> 750 mhz... 312ish ram
[03:18] <Mdance86> windows 98
[03:18] <Mdance86> so no particular company built it
[03:18] <Mdance86> geforce 2 card
[03:18] <cleaton> should work well =)
[03:18] <Skiessi> giami if you install it, you can configure it later to use the other pci-e card, I think
[03:18] <DIL_> linux ROCKS!!!
[03:19] <Skiessi> *the pci-e card
[03:19] <speeddemon8803> Thanks dil_ we think so too ;)
[03:19] <deostroll> hanez: no it didn't work. Getting the same error
[03:19] <TeslaDave> Mdance, i would suggest try running the live CD and instead of choosing the install option, try the running live option and see if it works first
[03:19] <giami> skiessi -> ya its installed and booted with onboard right now.  lspci detects the card but i am getting trouble configuring it.
[03:19] <speeddemon8803> !linux
[03:19] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:19] <giami> Skiessi - i had restricted drivers in use.
[03:20] <giami> before i poped the card in.  i was able to use nvidia-settings .
[03:20] <TeslaDave> Mdance, because if its an older machine you may have many other issues
[03:20] <cleaton> TeslaDave, on the live cd there is just the live option i think
[03:20] <cleaton> TeslaDave, you need the alternate cd for graphical installation
[03:20] <Mdance86> Tesla, it does same thing
[03:21] <Mdance86> hdc: drive not ready for command
[03:21] <deostroll> Can any1 help I am getting a sudo error.
[03:21] <Mdance86> im assuming it means the hard drive
[03:21] <PanzerMKZ> cleaton last time I checked on tha alt install cd does NOT have gui installer
[03:21] <Riotblade> OMG PurpZeY, it works, no desync
[03:21] <TeslaDave> cleaton I believe if you download the standard install CD, that you can run live or choose to install, or  it boots into gnome live and you click on an install icon
[03:21] <Riotblade> tyty
[03:22] <TeslaDave> cleaton i can't quite remember now you maybe correct
[03:22] <beerfan> Is there an audio option to disable speaker output when headphones are plugged into the front output (on my desktop computer)?
[03:22] <Condoulo> does anybody in here use uStream?
[03:22] <cleaton> PanzerMKZ, oh sorry i missed the non
[03:22] <Skiessi> giami you got my pms?
[03:22] <giami> no Skiessi
[03:22] <Skiessi> o.o
[03:23] <giami> ahh
[03:23] <giami> hello moto
[03:23] <Skiessi> have you tried displayconfig-gtk?
[03:23] <PanzerMKZ> cleaton no worries mate. The alt cd is great for me when installing many machines.
[03:23] <TeslaDave> Mdance, it might not like your harddrive
[03:23] <cleaton> same here =)
[03:23] <giami> Skiessi - no.
[03:23] <Mdance86> it probobly doesnt
[03:23] <Mdance86> ok well
[03:23] <nickrud> Mdance86, what was the exact error again?
[03:24] <giami> Skiessi -> let me register my nick so i can send msgs
[03:24] <TeslaDave> Mdance did you check the disk for errors, the install cd i mean
[03:24] <Mdance86> it gave a bunch of random numbers ex: [524.998756] hdc: drive not ready for command
[03:24] <Mdance86> no i didnt
[03:24] <Skiessi> ok
[03:24] <nickrud> Mdance86, that sounds like the cdrom, usually hda is the hard drive
[03:24] <zero88> WOW is there some kind of bug with Firefox and Ubufox. I am unable to uninstall ubufox. The uninstall button is ghosted . please help
[03:24] <Mdance86> mm
[03:24] <beerfan> my integrated audio has a windows driver which disables the rear audio output when headphones are plugged into the front output. Is it possible to duplicate this in gnome?
[03:25] <schwepps> is there a good graphical backup program? one which lets you choose exactly what files you want to backup.
[03:25] <Mdance86> well i have two cd drives... i guess i can try the other to boot up the cd
[03:25] <nickrud> schwepps, sbackup is a nice simple backup program
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> hd is a hard drive
[03:25] <nickrud> Mdance86, and try putting any old cd in the other one
[03:25] <TeslaDave> nickrud, could it be that MDance's CD isn't burnt correctly
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> no if's ands or buts about that.
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> hda hdb hda1 hdb1 hda2 all hard drives
[03:26] <schwepps> nickrud, thanks, looks good
[03:26] <zubuntu> how do i change the owner of an external hard drive from root to a regular user?
[03:26] <nickrud> TeslaDave, I've seen that error before, it's usually a hardware interrupt error. Sometimes just sticking a cd in clears it
[03:26] <RenatoSilva> Why does my Beryl doesn't work on Gutsy? Specifically, the window decorator: neither Emerald nor GTK
[03:26] <nixnoob> zubuntu chmod
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> !beryl
[03:26] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> !compiz
[03:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:27] <nickrud> speeddemon8803, hda is ide0 drive 0, hdb is ide0 drive 1 , hdc is ide1 drive 0 , hdd is ide drive 1. CD, Harddrive, irrelevant
[03:27] <Skiessi> !info nvidia-glx-new
[03:27] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[03:27] <Mdance86> ok so hda... what do i do about the error?
[03:27] <Skiessi> what's the 'new' driver?
[03:28] <Mdance86> does it not load quick enough?
[03:28] <Mdance86> should i load
[03:28] <Mdance86> ide0 first?
[03:28] <TeslaDave> nickrud do you know anything about X forwarding through ssh
[03:28] <speeddemon8803> nickrud isnt that what i stated in so many words?
[03:28] <RenatoSilva> speeddemon8803: well, what should I do then?
[03:28] <nickrud> Mdance86, try unplugging the ide1 drive 0 cdrom
[03:28] <Mdance86> ok
[03:28] <nickrud> speeddemon8803, last I saw, a harddrive wasn't a cdrom.
[03:28] <nixnoob> RenatoSilva, remove beryl and install compiz-fusion
[03:29] <Mdance86> however im assuming thats my main cd drive...
[03:29] <Mdance86> and it may not boot from the other dive
[03:29] <Mdance86> drive*
[03:29] <Mdance86> or i might be retarded
[03:29] <nickrud> Mdance86, yeah, some older cdroms don't support booting
[03:29] <Szeraax> Anyone know of any .vfd floppy images of the grub loader?
[03:30] <nickrud> Mdance86, but that's what I'd do, try just one cdrom in the system at a time. Hopefully one will work
[03:31] <Groovestix> hey folks! here's an easy question. How can I make my Xubuntu not go to sleep (turn off monitor after period of time)?
[03:31] <Mdance86> ok trying that now
[03:31] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: this package does not exist
[03:32] <TeslaDave> Having problems getting X to forward when I ssh into my machine
[03:32] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: compiz-fusion-plugins is only what I've got
[03:32] <RenatoSilva> nixternal: -extra & -main
[03:32] <nickrud> Mdance86, but not to forget what TeslaDave said about the burnt cd, run the disk check as well
[03:32] <nickrud> TeslaDave, very little about X forwarding, I'm a single machine at a time type
[03:33] <Ongaku> hey guys, happy new year, does anyone know where i can get a demo or a full version of the original unreal tournament?
[03:33] <Ongaku> my computer is junk itś the only one i can play lol
[03:33] <beerfan> Ongaku: this is not a warez channel
[03:33] <nickrud> Groovestix, you should be able to set that at system->prefs->screensaver , power options button
[03:33] <Ongaku> i just want a demo
[03:33] <TeslaDave> nickrud, just trying to iron out the kinks with remotely connecting to my home machine from work
[03:33] <Ongaku> god knows if the original would run on this
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> beerfan that isnt a warez question or topic..didnt ask for it in an illegal form that i saw.
[03:34] <CrevilO> anyone know of a fool-proof way to get host networking working for virtualbox under gutsy yet?
[03:34] <nickrud> TeslaDave, be sure it's port forwarded on the router. I do ssh back and forth, but no X forwarding
[03:34] <beerfan> speeddemon8803: he asked for the "full version"
[03:34] <Ongaku> i figured the original UT would be a free full download these days
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> and....
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> you can buy...the full version
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> online
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> legally
[03:34] <speeddemon8803> :)
[03:34] <RenatoSilva> I uwas using Beryl on Feisty and now it doesn't work correctly, and Gutsy doesn't enable effects for my video card. What should I do?
[03:34] <Soskel> HELP!!!!
[03:34] <PMantis> Hi guys! I was trying to add a VPN connection to network manager, and it crashed. I cannot get nm-applet to open at all now. What directory holds my personal VPN account settings for NM?
[03:35] <Ongaku> yah heh a demo would be cool, i can´t find a linux demo download
[03:35] <TeslaDave> nickrud, i can ssh with no problem but getting the x no, could my isp be blocking something
[03:35] <Soskel> a windows box pops up when I load from a livecd!!!!!
[03:35] <Soskel> someone help
[03:35] <backgen> hey does anyone in here have any experience with playing EVE online, on Gutsy?
[03:35] <RenatoSilva> I was using Beryl on Feisty and now it doesn't work correctly, and Gutsy doesn't enable effects for my video card. What should I do?
[03:36] <Mdance86> It seems like it could be working.. i will update u in a bit
[03:36] <nickrud> TeslaDave, I do remember something about ForwardX11 in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or some file like that
[03:36] <backgen> Soskel: what do you mean a windows box
[03:36] <mixed> Is there an ubuntu version for audio?
[03:36] <nickrud> mixed, audio? you mean like an audio mixing studio?
[03:36] <Soskel> backgen: a windows with the blue title bar, and the windows progress bar poped up
[03:36] <jdh6403> god there are a LOT of programs availible for linux   i could spend all night in add remove programs
[03:37] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, what video card are you running gutsy on?
[03:37] <Soskel> backgen: please, it was awful, please help
[03:37] <Groovestix> nickrud: I can't seem to find the
[03:37] <beerfan> mixed: ubuntustudio.org
[03:37] <nickrud> jdh6403, and that just touches the surface of what's available, try looking around in system->admin->synaptic
[03:37] <TeslaDave> nickrud, i know what your refering too, i set the options as yes,  do you know of a chat channel to speak with some x gurus
[03:37] <Groovestix> nickrud: I can't seem to find the "power options" button
[03:37] <PMantis> Soskel: Are you sure you booted from an Ubuntu live CD ??
[03:37] <PurpZeY> Not to mention anything that can also compiled
[03:38] <nickrud> TeslaDave, no, I sure don't
[03:38] <owen1> kill doesn't kill the process. any ideas?
[03:38] <PurpZeY> owen1: If kill -9 doesn't kill it, it may be a zombie
[03:38] <PMantis> owen1: try kill -9
[03:38] <nickrud> Groovestix, system->prefs->screensaver  power management button, sorry
[03:38] <Soskel> PMantis: haha yes, I booted from the livecd, and when everything was loading, a windows box poped up and aid something about unpacking a pernal
[03:38] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it worked before, but not now
[03:38] <Soskel> *kernal
[03:38] <Groovestix> nickrud: alright, let me finish rebooting, brb
[03:39] <quinton_> I recently installed ubuntu with a fresh install and I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers. help will be very thankfull!
[03:39] <PMantis> Soskel: heh
[03:39] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You have to install first, then setup everything. LiveCD is a test run.
[03:39] <mixed> beerfan, thanks i'll go give it a look see
[03:39] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, worked on gutsy before, you mean?
[03:39] <owen1> PMantis: ok. going to try.
[03:39] <PMantis> Soskel: Is that after you choose "Install or run linux" from the menu?
[03:39] <Soskel> PMantis and PurpZeY I know I know, but why did the windows box pop up?
[03:39] <TeslaDave> IS anyone in the room expierienced with X forwarding ssh?
[03:39] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: somenone told me I shouldn't install beryl because there is compiz-fusion, but this package doesn't exist and don't know what is supposed to do exactly
[03:39] <PurpZeY> Soskel: Windows box?
[03:39] <wers> how do I merge two audio tracks?
[03:39] <Soskel> PMantis: after I choose to run it I think
[03:39] <wers> can I do that with audacity?
[03:39] <Soskel> PurpZeY: a windows themed popup msg box
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: It just looks windows themed I imagine.
[03:40] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 logitech speakers! help will be very thankfull.
[03:40] <Soskel> yea
[03:40] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, are you running gutsy, or feisty now? And What video card exactly are you using? Useful questions, answers will point to solutions (maybe)
[03:40] <PMantis> Soskel: That box has nothing to do with windows whatsever... that's just a graphical progress bar for loading the linux kernel int memory.
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You'll double-click install from the liveCD
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: worked absolutely fine on Feisty, but on Gutsy the decorator doesn't work, besides of what someone told me about such compiz-fusion
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: It will look like a bunch of windows type GUI stuff -- it isn't.
[03:40] <Soskel> PMantis: right, but why did mark shuttleworth choose that gui?!?!?
[03:40] <PurpZeY> Soskel: To the "untrained" eye...My Ubuntu box might as well be windows.
[03:40] <owen1> PMantis: PurpZeY : kill with -9 returns  'no such process'
[03:40] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I'd like to help, but if you choose not to be helped ....
[03:40] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it's not absolutelly a problem of my video card
[03:40] <Soskel> PurpZeY: why windows? why not mac themed?
[03:41] <PurpZeY> Soskel: You can theme it later
[03:41] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: beryl is dead. Gutsy installs compiz by default, if your video card can handle it.
[03:41] <PurpZeY> owen1: Are you sure the process is still running?
[03:41] <PMantis> owen1: I guess it closed then?
[03:41] <TeslaDave> RenatoSilva Compiz-Fusion is the new beryl
[03:41] <Soskel> PurpZeY: I know, I know, but I want to know why the kernel people choose a windows themed msg box
[03:41] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers please help! thanks!
[03:42] <PurpZeY> Soskel: "The Kernel People" do not exist. Mark Shuttleworth developed Ubuntu with a team of other people. They probably picked that format b/c it is most common to other people.
[03:42] <wers> I have a minus one track and a vocal track. how can I merge them?
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: well, but my video card supported both compiz and beryl on feisty and I was happy. Why don't now?????
[03:42] <wers> can I do that with audacity?
[03:42] <Soskel> PurpZeY: the kernel people do exist, they live in the netherlands and eat horse raddish
[03:42] <tuxxxinator> haha
[03:42]  * PMantis will BRB
[03:42]  * PurpZeY rolls his eyes 
[03:42] <nickrud> lol, kernel people are corn eaters, not horseradish
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> TeslaDave: I'm not finding this package on Gutsy repos! Only compiz-fuision-plugins-extra/main!!!!!!
[03:43] <Soskel> ok ok, thank you for the help PurpZeY
[03:43] <PurpZeY> Soskel: No worries. Good luck with "The Kernel People"
[03:43] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: what makes you think it isn't? Did you enable desktop effects when you installed gutsy?
[03:43] <Soskel> haha thanks
[03:43] <crdlb> RenatoSilva: there is no 'compiz-fusion' package, don't worry about it
[03:43] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: answer
[03:43] <mixed> beerfan, ubuntustudio is an ubunto distro, right?  meaning it is not a suite that runs on ubuntu but rather a distro in itself
[03:43] <TeslaDave> RenatoSilva, ibeliev its allready included in gusty
[03:43] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If your card is supported all you have to do is turn on compiz-fusion
[03:43] <beerfan> mixed: it's an ubuntu based distro, not associated with canonical
[03:44] <owen1> PurpZeY: PMantis : it's a ruby app(site) that i run from ctrl+F2. i think it created 2 processes - instiki and ruby. I manualy killed the instiki but the site is still alive so i am trying to kill the ruby process.
[03:44] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and if you have certain video cards, you have a couple of extra steps. What video card do you have?
[03:44] <joshritger> does anyone know if there is a maximum size for the splash screen while ubuntu loads?
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: Oh god! Yes, I did! It tells me effects couldn't be applied, only that
[03:44] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If it appears your card isn't working properly....Then what you need to do is configure it properly.
[03:44] <TeslaDave> PurpZey can u refresh my memory on how to turn on compiz-fusion
[03:44] <mixed> beerfan, thanks!  I'm installing it right now, there's a few appz that won't even run on my SuSE distro, i'm going to give ubuntu a try
[03:44] <quinton_> I am not hearing sound from all of my 5.1 speakers please help! thanks!
[03:44] <PurpZeY> TeslaDave: System --> Pref --> Compiz
[03:44] <PurpZeY> TeslaDave: If you don't have that choice you'll need to install the CCSM compiz settings manager
[03:45] <nickrud> TeslaDave, system->prefs->appearance, effects tab (gutsy)
[03:45] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  you mean to say you have front sound. but not the rear?
[03:45]  * PurpZeY is in feisty still. . .
[03:45] <TeslaDave> Purpnickrud then select Extra effects?
[03:45] <mixed> anyone knows if ubuntu is good at recognizing new hardware?  SuSE 10.2 doesn't recognize my video, sound, and network card, SuSE 10.3 works just fine, problem is a lot of software doesn't work on SuSE 10.3, I finally caved in and today I'm going to give ubuntu a try
[03:45] <quinton_> dr_willis, Actually I think its only coming from one speaker.
[03:46] <nickrud> me laughs a t PurpZeY , but only a little bit :)
[03:46] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Feisty + Video Card = Hapiness. Gutsy + Video Card =  I'm stupid?
[03:46] <speeddemon8803> Mixed, ubuntu is great at that :)
[03:46] <TeslaDave> nickrud, then select extra effects right, or am i missing an option
[03:46] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Sounds like you are running into a problem w/ the restricted drivers/nvidia/ati issue
[03:46] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  for my Audigy card. to get mp3's and stuff out the rear. i have to twiddle with the sliders in the alsamixer tool.
[03:46] <speeddemon8803> it recognizes everything i threw at it so far :P
[03:46] <beerfan> mixed: depends what hardware and how new
[03:46] <chao1> does anyone know how to get the multimedia preview feature working in 7.10? I have mpg321 mpg123 and vorbistools installed
[03:46] <quinton_> dr_willis, I turned all of them all the way up... no difference.
[03:46] <Skiessi> :o multimedia preview?
[03:46] <nickrud> TeslaDave, yes.  And to get the custom configuration button, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:46] <PurpZeY> nickrud: If it ain't broke...:)
[03:47] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  whats your sound card anyway?
[03:47] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, wat's the prob
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: sounds like BUG!
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY:  Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:47] <quinton_> dr_willis, Soundblaster like 4 years old...
[03:47] <Skiessi> chaol: you mean that you point at some audio file and it starts playing?
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I never needed restricted drivers
[03:47] <PurpZeY> NavArrow: He/she upgraded and Gutsy will not allow the new card to run compiz-fusion
[03:47] <chao1> yes the preview
[03:47] <mixed> speeddemon, if that's the case and software actually works on ubuntu I'll probably switch to ubuntu, I really like SuSE but I can't even get Quake to work right on my new machine, quake was working just fine on my expired PIII running SuSE 10.2
[03:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You don't need restricted drivers for an intel card
[03:47] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: read log
[03:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Are you sure the card is working properly?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> quinton_,  audigy? or live? use the alsamixer, or alsamixergui tool. and be sure to look to the right side.. theres a LOT of sliders :) let mesee if i can figure out what onei normally use
[03:48] <TeslaDave> thanks all
[03:48] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: are you sure you're LISTENING tom me?
[03:48] <quinton_> dr_willis, I did slide it over to discover more and turned them up too.
[03:48] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I came in the middle and I am trying to help you. Are you positive that Ubuntu is recognizing the card incorrectly?
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Feisty + Card = Hapiness. Gutsy + Card = Gutsy fucked it!
[03:49] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, are u shure that module is loaded ? tested yet glxinfo to see if is mesa
[03:49] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: 1) Language. 2) I will ask again, ARE YOU SURE GUTSY IS NOT RECOGNIZING THE CARD?
[03:49] <chao1> I had it working when I upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04 but some things didnt work so I reinstalled. Now the multimedia preview doesnt work
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: There's NO problem with Video Card, except something about Gutsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:49] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Listen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:49]  * PurpZeY is done helping 
[03:50] <NavArrow> ege
[03:50] <NavArrow> ehehehhe
[03:50] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: perhaps you should go back to feisty then. Hardware detection for compiz has improved and some video cards were blacklisted which don't work well.
[03:50] <PurpZeY> Maybe someone else wants to be yelled at.
[03:50] <Dr_willis> quicksilver_,  i also rember if using the Digital out - i had to enable that. BUT this was all for the front/rear. If you have Just one side. of the front going.. I would almost have to say check the wires.
[03:50] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, thats an intel 965 graphics chip, right?
[03:50] <quinton_> dr_willis, it says my card is an intel ICH5
[03:50] <NavArrow> eheh
[03:51] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: really? So updates are supposed to address this?
[03:51] <crush_groove> bbl
[03:51] <chao1> Does anyone know how to get the mulitmedia preview (mp3) working
[03:51] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, would you like a workaround or not?
[03:51] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: updates? No update can fix video card deficiencies so they blacklisted those which can't work well.
[03:51] <Fony> When I create a swap Drive. Do I make it Primary or Logical? and does it matter if I place the partition at the end or in the start?
[03:51] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[03:52] <Fony> Swap Partition*
[03:52] <undertakingyou> chao1: use gconf editor and set /desktop/gnome/sound/enable_esd to TRUE.
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony:shouldn't matter, linux doesn't really care
[03:52] <Fony> oh.. k
[03:52] <damaltor> 95
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony: sometimes it's better to put it at the beginning as it'll reduce disk access time
[03:52] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: WHY DOES Feisty have NO PROBLEM with it THEN?????
[03:52] <dfcarney> Fony: but disks are so fast nowadays (often with SCSI-like controllers) so i don't know if that's an issue any more
[03:53] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: Beryl works fine, only decorator don't
[03:53] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: I couldn't tell you. I didn't program beryl. Go back to feisty if it works for you.
[03:53] <chrometiger> anyone know of any really good  video editing software for nix   besides cinderella ?
[03:53] <telee> are there any sound drivers i can download so i can customize my THX surround sound?
[03:53] <quinton_> dr_willis, I really do not want to rush, but me and my girl are wanting to watch this movie I have recently got... and the sounds not working out well enough.
[03:53] <RenatoSilva> beerfan: your suggestion is stupid. thank you
[03:53] <Fony> I see dfcarney. Thank you for your answers :)
[03:53] <dfcarney> Fony: no problem :)
[03:53] <undertakingyou> chrometiger: Cinelerra is supposed to be good.
[03:53] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Several people are trying to help you, you are being rude to all of us
[03:53] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: alt+f2 and enter emerald --replace
[03:54] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: what is supposed to do?
[03:54] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try running in a terminal   SKIP-CHECKS=yes compiz
[03:54] <beerfan> RenatoSilva: I'm being serious. I got Beryl working on my old laptop which has a radeon with 32mb of video ram, but it was crap. They blacklist cards which can sorta work but don't really.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> quicksilver_,  Well if its not a actual soundblaster card. I dont know. If its not a actual 5.1 surround sound source..   there maybe some tweaks you need to do to get it to clone front and rear.
[03:54] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: get decorator working?
[03:54] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: yes
[03:54] <chrometiger> it is but,  not at all user friendly,  little hard to figure out where everything is when you've never seen it before
[03:55] <iamtooawesome> Are DVDs of TV shows encrypted differently from regular movie DVDs?  Because I can't seem to mount them.
[03:55] <stunatra> chrometiger, and neither was Windows when you first tried it.
[03:55] <PurpZeY> iamtooawesome: I have no idea, and that's probably off topic. Unless you need the DVD Libs.
[03:55] <Vorian> !multimedia > iamtooawesome see the pm from ubotu
[03:55] <Dingbat> Just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 -- enabeled visual effects ... where can I find the hotkeys or controls to switch between different view modes (ie: 3d cube for instance)
[03:55] <chrometiger> good point haha
[03:55] <jones> Where is the best place to discuss wireless router hardware? i have a few questions and am not sure what channel to go to.... thanks
[03:55] <iCEifer> hello all, can anyone tell me how I can determine the amount of video mem available to my video card that linux has access to?
[03:55] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: I have to reinstall , wait
[03:55] <telee> is there any program i can get that will allow me to customize my speaker settings 5.1 surround sound ?
[03:55] <PurpZeY> Dingbat: Install the CCSM from synaptic.
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Dingbat: Compiz-control settings manager...Then you can play with all of the key bindings
[03:56] <stunatra> chrometiger, Linux/Ubuntu is not harder than Windows, it's just different.
[03:56] <chrometiger> i didn't say linux was,   just cinderella
[03:56] <Vorian> Dingbat: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Or do it that way.
[03:56] <Vorian> ;-)
[03:56] <Dingbat> Thanks.
[03:57] <Vorian> Dingbat: then you will be able to access it in a few ways
[03:57] <dings> Does anyone here know of any plans for putting zope2.10.4 in gutsy-backports?
[03:57] <ponty> i'm trying tunnel vncviewer through ssh and need some help at the command line
[03:58] <nickrud> iCEifer, try   grep -i sdram /var/log/Xorg.0.log  , if you don't get an answer substitute  sgram for sdram , should work for you
[03:58] <dings> ponty: ssh -D 8080 and tsocks?
[03:58] <Miksago> hey, has anyone had any trouble with networking after upgrade to Gutsy?
[03:59] <AngryElf> how do I make my .bash_history last a lot longer?  however long it is right now isn't long enough
[03:59] <dings> ponty: or just -X is I missunderstood what you where saying :)
[03:59] <Vorian> !anyone | Miksago
[03:59] <ubotu> Miksago: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:00] <ponty> dings: ssh -L 5900:remoteserver:5900 user@remoteserver
[04:00] <ponty> gets me this: bind: Address already in use
[04:00] <ponty> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5900
[04:00] <ponty> Could not request local forwarding.
[04:00] <WorkingOnWise> iCEifer: I use sudo hwinfo --framebuffer. the video ram is listed near the top.
[04:00] <formolQ1> hello
[04:00] <nickrud> AngryElf,  set HISTFILESIZE=<number of lines> in ~/.bash_profile , 500 is the default
[04:01] <Vorian> hi formolQ1
[04:01] <Miksago> Vorian: orright. I'm using dhcp, i've recently installed 7.04 (breezy?) and then done a system upgrade to Gutsy
[04:01] <formolQ1> someone know what is the command to know witch webcam chipset i've?  (thosiba laptop....) , thank you
[04:01] <WorkingOnWise> anyone know how to give my nvidia Geforce Go 6100 built in video cpu more system ram? theres no setting in the bios for it.
[04:01] <jones> hey all i have a few questions regarding the linksys wrt54g and dd-wrt. what is the best place to talk about this. is there a dd-wrt irc out there?    thanks
[04:01] <Vorian> Miksago: what is your trouble?
[04:01] <spiker611> Hello, I have a Canon MP610 on my server, gutsy 2.6.22-14-generic, which stopped working suddently (it is on automatic update though..).  lpstat -p -d returns "Unable to open USB port device file: Permission denied"  Help?
[04:02] <Miksago> well, the network card worked fine in breezy, because i used update manager to upgrade. now in gutsy it doesn't work
[04:02] <Vorian> what card?
[04:02] <Miksago> Vorian: ^^
[04:02] <Miksago> it's an integrated Gigabyte
[04:02] <Miksago> it's on board the motherboard
[04:03] <forevertheuni> hello ..I try rec -t alsa default out.wav and rec -t alsa dsnoop:0 out.wav..and my microphone still don't capture a thing to a file
[04:03] <Ongaku> ok i have a file that is a tar.gz and it´s not the type you have to compile, how do you install it?
[04:03] <Miksago> forevertheuni: does your mic work
[04:03] <Miksago> ?
[04:04] <Miksago> Ongaku: hm... tried extracting it?
[04:04] <iCEifer> thanks.
[04:04] <nickrud> Miksago, 7.04 is feisty by the way, you'll confuse people no end if you call it breezy :)
[04:04] <pearlbear> suggestions on a CD install: I'm using the text based (alternative CD image) and at the "Install the base system" stage, I'm getting a lot of corrupted files. But I verified my burn, and actually tried burning from two different burners.
[04:04] <Ongaku> miksago: yah, its the original Unreal Tournament demo if that helps
[04:04] <mindframe_> will grub boot from an xfs root partition?
[04:04] <Miksago> nickrud: i wasn't sure, hence the question makr
[04:04] <Miksago> *mark
[04:04] <forevertheuni> Miksago, yes mic works
[04:04] <mindframe_> *as long as i set a separate boot partition as ext3...
[04:04] <riotkittie> WorkingOnWise: *can* it use system ram ? if so, uhmm, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then open a termintal and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. you can specify ram on like the second or third screen in, iirc
[04:05] <Miksago> Ongaku: hmm.. i'd try extracting the file..
[04:05] <Ongaku> miksago: ok
[04:05] <forevertheuni> if I set to hear microphone in speakers I can here it
[04:05] <forevertheuni> hear*
[04:05] <Miksago> forevertheuni: okay.. is the mic volume turned up, and what recording program are you using?
[04:05] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: nothing happens
[04:05] <fotoflo> i have locked my root password -- does anyone have a link for information about unlocking it?
[04:06] <fotoflo> will booting into single user mode from grub work in ubuntu?
[04:06] <Miksago> yereth: are you everywhere?
[04:06] <Ongaku> miksago: ok it extracts and it just has the files like textures sound etc...how do i run it?
[04:06] <Miksago> hmm...
[04:06] <Miksago> not sure
[04:06] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: you may want to check with the kindly people in #ubuntu-effects then
[04:06] <Miksago> i don't do much in the games stuff...
[04:06] <forevertheuni> Miksago, volume and micboost are ok
[04:07] <forevertheuni> capture is set to microphone in alsamixer
[04:07] <forevertheuni> i'm using rec
[04:07] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, try running in a terminal   SKIP-CHECKS=yes compiz
[04:07] <forevertheuni> but I tried ekiga openwengo..no sucess
[04:07] <Ongaku> miksago: lol the one game i can play on linux with no emulators and i cant play it haha...i cant figure it out
[04:07] <ce_moet> haii max
[04:07] <Miksago> i haven't had any experience with rec. but i hAVE WITH AUDACITY
[04:07] <Miksago> meep. caps pwn
[04:07] <Ongaku> the only tar.gz files i had to deal with were ones you have to compile...
[04:08] <riotkittie> ok. let's talk wireless usb adapters \o/. anyone have an opinion on rt73? is it better than rt2570, in terms of working with the open driver? :T
[04:08] <Miksago> Ongaku: is there a executable?
[04:08] <forevertheuni> ok i'll try audacity
[04:08] <Miksago> (by permissions)
[04:08] <Ongaku> miksago: no i dont see one :?
[04:08] <Miksago> hmm.. not sure the Ongaku
[04:08] <forevertheuni> Miksago, I need to capture with dsnoop:0
[04:08] <Miksago> *not sure then
[04:08]  * nickrud wonders why people keep trying to use chipsets that aren't well supported ;)
[04:09] <Ongaku> miksago: oh you mean in the properties run as executable? i didnt try that yet
[04:09] <Miksago> nickrud: how do you mean?
[04:09] <Miksago> Ongaku: yeah
[04:09] <nickrud> Miksago, different person, sorry
[04:09] <forevertheuni> Miksago, u use it with alsa right?
[04:09] <Ongaku> miksago: no it doesnt run like that it just opens the archive of the demo
[04:09] <gotenks> how do i lower desktop resolution?
[04:09] <ce_moet> yeahhh
[04:10] <nickrud> gotenks, you should be able to do that with system->prefs->screen resolution
[04:10] <gotenks> i'm using wine to run an old app... and it requires 256
[04:10] <gotenks> i mean color depth not res sry nickrud
[04:10] <riotkittie> nickrud: i went for the ralink because the ubuntu hw wiki was all like "ralink yay. open drivers, gpl'ed blah blah blah"
[04:10] <riotkittie> :P
[04:11] <nickrud> gotenks, you'd need to write a bit in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf , it you'll put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org I'll show the additions
[04:11] <nickrud> gotenks, my laptop battery is about to die, brb
[04:11] <gotenks> uh-oh...
[04:11] <gotenks> ok
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: nothing happens
[04:11] <WorkingOnWise> does mount know that my partition is reiser4 is i tell it reiserfs? man mount doesnt show anything for mounting a reiser4 file system.
[04:11] <gotenks> btw, i can't get my ubuntu desktop onine...
[04:12] <gotenks> different story
[04:12] <nickrud> gotenks, got it plugged in before it auto hibernated :)
[04:12] <RenatoSilva> My compiz says: Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2972' found. Why?????????
[04:12] <forevertheuni> does audacity uses alsa or oss?
[04:12] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist , has to do with playing video's in compiz (your chipset issue)
[04:12] <FrozenData> I can't get ilw3945 to work after sleep or hibernation, tried rmmod and modprobe. Still no luck, any help?
[04:12] <Vorian> RenatoSilva: because it was blacklisted.  please do try to restrain yourself.
[04:13] <Miksago> forevertheuni: i don't think it's dependent as it works on windows as well
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> Vorian: restrain?
[04:13] <Miksago> so would anyone know about network issues with dhcp, windows server 2000 and Gutsy?
[04:13] <backgen> Has anyone here managed to install and run EVE online on Gutsy Gibbon succesfully?
[04:13] <forevertheuni> Miksago, it can work with both
[04:13] <AngryElf> nickrud: if i dont have a .bash_profile should I just create it and add that line?
[04:14] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: in short, the developers found something about that card that is not desirable with compiz, so untill they are able to work it out, they decided to save users headache by just saying "it dont work right" rather than letting u try for days and finding out "it dont work right"
[04:14] <nickrud> AngryElf, you should have one, it's created automatically for each user
[04:14] <FrozenData> Help?
[04:15] <AngryElf> nickrud: k, well i dont :)
[04:15] <riotkittie> in ubuntu, you get a .profile but no .bash_profile
[04:15] <AngryElf> bash_history, bash_logout, bashrc
[04:15] <riotkittie> at least  from what ive seen
[04:15] <gotenx> yay i back
[04:16] <AngryElf> k, i've got a .profile -- but there's no HISTFILESIZE in it
[04:16] <nickrud> AngryElf, yes, you'd create one.  I
[04:16] <nickrud> 've put mine up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50459/ , the home bin stuff is custom, but useful
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: It DID WORKED for 6! monthns on Feisty!
[04:16] <WorkingOnWise> Shouldn't this "/dev/sda4 /home/wowhome reiserfs notail 0 1" in fstab mount my reiser4 partition?
[04:17] <Miksago> nickrud: would yuo know anything about dhcp issues in Gutsy?
[04:17] <zenrium> I used to use autoit and autohotkey for emulating key and mouse in windblows... is there an equiv for ubuntu?
[04:17] <gotenx> nickrud, i would have to type my entire conf into that pastebin if you need it
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: but I understand, though what is did was breaking ME.
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: was did
[04:17] <nickrud> AngryElf, yes, it has a default if not set. if you do man bash, then   /bash_history   (searches for that string) you'll end up right in the explanation of how it works
[04:17] <gotenx> my ubuntu desktop isn't connected to the internet
[04:18] <nickrud> Miksago, no, I sure don't. I've always used a static ip until gutsy, when networkmanager started running it right for me
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: compiz SKIP_CHECKS=yes doesn't work
[04:18] <Miksago> nickrud: kk
[04:18] <gotenx> nickrud i'm seeing dept in section screen... gotta edit that i take it?
[04:18] <Miksago> i think there's a forum thread on it.. but i can't find it
[04:18] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that's not what I wrote, the skip-checks comes first
[04:18] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it says command not found
[04:18] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: in fiesty it was Beryl, in Gutsy it is compiz-fusion. The projects merged. For the most part, it was a good thing, but there were some casualties, like your video card being blacklisted. U can go back to Beryl. #compiz-fusion is a much better place for your issue I would imagine.
[04:19] <landspite> anyone know why I wouldn't be able to ping 127.0.0.1?
[04:19] <landspite> the lo adapter is up according to ifconfig.
[04:19] <NavArrow> iptables?
[04:19] <NavArrow> iptables -L..
[04:19] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, if the instructions on that page I gave you aren't working, then you definitely need to talk on #compiz-fusion
[04:19] <landspite> nah not used.
[04:20] <zenrium> icmp is turned off on the interface?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I'M ON Beryl!
[04:20] <landspite> doubt it...
[04:20] <nickrud> ARRRGH! RenatoSilva you told us gutsy!
[04:20] <landspite> where do you configure if icmp is enabled on the adapter?
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: SKIP_CHECKS is NOT a command in any way
[04:20] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: really? hmmm....gutsy doesnt have beryl in Any repos....
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it's like an argument to compiz or like a system variable setting
[04:21] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, no it's not it's a shell variable that gets passed to the compiz command
[04:21] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: at least not any Ubuntu supported repos
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: Gutsy? Yes, I'm on it
[04:21] <bmt2> hello to all.....when I turn on Ubuntu ....what is the screen called that I see when the Ubuntu logo i shown ?
[04:21] <bmt2> is that the usplash ?
[04:21] <landspite> took it down brought it up and it's fine now
[04:21] <landspite> weird....
[04:22] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: so, are u using compiz, compiz-fusion, or beryl?
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: bash sees it as a command
[04:22] <beerfan> bmt2: before the login screen? yeah, usplash
[04:22] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then like I said, if the instructions on http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist are not working (I'd think that since it's the official compiz-fusion wiki the instructions are good) you need to tell the people in #compiz-fusion
[04:22] <bmt2> beerfan: thanks.....how can i change the usplash, and the login screen ?
[04:23] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I'll explain ALL for you from beginning
[04:23] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: not if he's using beryl...
[04:23] <beerfan> bmt2: try installing startupmanager
[04:23] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, where would he get beryl for gutsy?
[04:23] <bmt2> beerfan: can i just do : sudo apt-get install startupmanager ?
[04:23] <FrozenData> Anyone with good knowledge of wi-fi?
[04:23] <beerfan> bmt2: yeah, that's the packagename
[04:23] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[04:23] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: afaik, u can still dl the debs from the project site....
[04:24] <bmt2> beerfan: thanks...let me try that.....
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Once upon a time ME using Feisty with Beryl. Thousand of visual effects. I was HAPPY.
[04:24] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, oh, doh. That'd be a fiasco
[04:24] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: yupers
[04:24] <riotkittie> sigh.
[04:24] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: ok....
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Gutsy raises. I think about upgrading obviously. Obnviously.
[04:25] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: uh huh....
[04:25] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, so maybe we both should take a deep breath, and start over. Did you add beryl to gutsy?
[04:25] <wolf4914> How do I make opera recognize flashplugin?
[04:25] <wolf4914> keeps sayng I need to install  and it is installed
[04:25] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: he's gonna catch me up...
[04:26] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: Hum? Gutsy's CDs doesn't allow upgrade, only alternative CD. As I'm on a DIALED (!) connection, I couldn't upgrade from internet. What does all this mean?? That I have to re-install Ubuntu from scratch!!!
[04:26] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know how to rip dvds? or is that taboo topic?
[04:26] <FrozenData> godzirra, I had the similar problem, thats was resolved wjhen I shifted to iwl3945, but now wi-fi stops working when I come back from sleep hibernation, until system reboot.
[04:26]  * nickrud goes back to re reading brust
[04:27] <beerfan> mkquist: !medibuntu
[04:27] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: well, I cant answer that till I know if u are using beryl still or compiz-fusion, which is part of the upgrade from feisty to gutsy.
[04:27] <mkquist> beefan -i think i c ty
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I did it yesterday. Hum, but Ubuntu's brown is ugly. And desktop effects doesn't work so that I can't even SEE if it could do THE SAME STUFF Beryl did on Feisty
[04:27] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: so....
[04:28] <Ashfire908> how do i get the ablity to play encrypted dvds?
[04:28] <PurpZeY> !dvd | Ashfire908
[04:28] <ubotu> Ashfire908: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:28] <mkquist> beerfan - they have a channel too?
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: I catch my APTonCD and installed Beryl. But there are 2 problems:
[04:28] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: go to synaptic, search for compiz. tell me what u find that is installed.
[04:28] <nickrud> Ashfire908, go here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-381bea41610683e5e26322fd7028e7aef85e3105 , and install the libdvdcss that matches your architecture
[04:28] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 1) Decorator doesn't work, neither GTK nor Emerald
[04:28] <beerfan> mkquist: please see the dvd thing above
[04:28] <jdh6403> is there a way to have different background art on each workspace?
[04:29] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: Not that I know of
[04:29] <jdh6403> darn
[04:29] <mkquist> beerfan - got it ty
[04:29] <Ashfire908> i installed libdvdcss
[04:29] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 2) Someone told me compiz-fusion is the new Beryl, but this package doesn't exist on Gutsy.
[04:29] <forevertheuni> Miksago, ..oh well
[04:29] <luis_> anyone know what programe in Ubuntu will play .MID?
[04:29] <forevertheuni> I can capture with dnsoop now
[04:29] <forevertheuni> and hw:0,0
[04:30] <forevertheuni> but dnsoop has sound with breaks
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: untill we are clear on what composit system u are using, it just isn't possible to answer. Go find out for sure, on your system. it's the only way to stop all this guessing and get to a solution, ok?
[04:30] <forevertheuni> I wanted that "default" could capture sound
[04:30] <nickrud> Ashfire908, invoke vlc in a terminal, then try playing the dvd. You should get some output about decryption
[04:30] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: BERYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: can I PM u?
[04:30] <PurpZeY> /notice WorkingOnWise This guy has been doing this for over an hour, people try to help, he just gets annoyed and is not helpful in return...fyi
[04:30] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, sure
[04:30] <PurpZeY> WorkingOnWise: k?
[04:31] <Ashfire908> nickrud, the package vlc-nox is not installed
[04:31] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: APTonCD?? Do you know? I've got Bery from a backup, not official repos!
[04:31] <godzirra> FrozenData: that sucks... oh well.. where can I read up on that?
[04:31] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: k
[04:31] <godzirra> FrozenData: cause I don't hibernate my laptop often.
[04:31] <nickrud> Ashfire908, you are not running X?
[04:31] <luis_> anyone know what programe in Ubuntu will play .MID?
[04:31] <beerfan> luis_: what format is that? midi?
[04:32] <luis_> yeah, think so beerfan
[04:32] <beerfan> luis_: if vlc won't play it, I don't know
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: how did you help me?
[04:32] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, first thing: installing beryl from feisty is not something that will work
[04:32] <FrozenData> godzirra, uhmm, I've a Dell D630, I could give you that link, the process should be the same.
[04:32] <luis_> vlc, hmm, does that come installed in Ubuntu already?
[04:32] <Ashfire908> nickrud, i am running X11 unless somehow my gui is not running on X
[04:32] <beerfan> luis_: not by default no
[04:32] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, use google
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: why?
[04:32] <luis_> damn...
[04:32] <godzirra> FrozenData: that would be much appreciataed.
[04:32] <godzirra> -a
[04:32] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I didn't, and as far as I can tell no one else can.
[04:32] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: no
[04:32] <FrozenData> godzirra, http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/ipw3945_Wireless_Network_Module_Issues
[04:33] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, because beryl is not supported in gutsy.
[04:33] <godzirra> Thanks.  i'll read up tomorrow and see if I can get it to work.
[04:33] <NavArrow> right
[04:33] <nickrud> Ashex, lol.  Install vlc  then.
[04:33] <godzirra> well that s simple.
[04:33] <godzirra> ok, i'll screw with it tomorrow.  Thanks man.
[04:33] <joseph> ubuntu pownz me
[04:33] <joseph> god I love it
[04:33] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: so the package should not be installable don't? or is it a misundertanding?
[04:33] <FrozenData> godzirra, if you find a workaround for the hibernation thing, do send me a mail with the workaround.
[04:34] <NavArrow> RenatoSilva, hemerald
[04:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that is something you have to get your head around, beryl is a dead project and not used anymore. compiz-fusion (referred to as compiz in ubuntu) is it's replacement.
[04:34] <mEck0> Hi! I wonder which xrandr-command I can use to detect and use dual monitor (laptop lcd + external TFT) "on-the-fly" without needing to restart X?
[04:34] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: ?
[04:34] <NavArrow> emerald sry
[04:34] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, so you have to simply forget about beryl, and learn how to use compiz
[04:34] <RenatoSilva> NavArrow: what about it?
[04:34] <matholum> hello, i have a quick noob question if you guys don't mind... how do i change the documents folder to a different folder on another partition?
[04:35] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: compiz-fusion is not a package, but the effects tab on standard menu???
[04:35] <luis_> anyone know how to get VLC on Ubuntu?
[04:35] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: compiz-fusion is several packages
[04:35] <NavArrow> http://www.google.it and as nickrud says learn about compiz
[04:35] <luis_> !vlc
[04:35] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[04:35] <Ashfire908> nickrud,  it's installing.... totem played the dvd (i think) but with no video.
[04:35] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, did you read what I wrote? at all?
[04:35] <beerfan> matholum: you *could* delete Documents and create a symbolic link to the remote one with ln -s target dest
[04:35] <jdh6403> synaptic then search for vlc
[04:35] <Scunizi> luis_: sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:36] <nickrud> Ashfire908, are you running compiz?
[04:36] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: where is compiz-fusion?
[04:36] <luis_> woot, danke!
[04:36] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: It's in synaptic or the repos
[04:36] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: please go and check...see for yourself now, what is installed. I know u think it is beryl, and it may well be. compiz-fusion and beryl both use emerald and gtk for windo decorations, so that isnt an indicator. Please just go into synaptic and search for compiz.....I could tll u how to fix your problem in beryl and it wont matter if u are not still using beryl...
[04:36] <Scunizi> bitter
[04:36] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: how to install? Or that menu = it?
[04:36] <matholum> beerfan> would that link to it in the plases menu and everything though?
[04:36] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Go into synaptic, as WorkingOnWise, has asked, and search for compiz and see what is it installed
[04:36] <matholum> **places
[04:37] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 'compiz' is the package. In this case, I go to Appearance > Effects > "Could not enable" (blacklisted card since Gutsy). Then I go to beryl-manager+emerald > decorator doesn't work
[04:38] <beerfan> matholum: everything will still look for it at ~/Documents ...this isn't necessarily the ideal solution but without knowing what or why you'd want to do this I can't suggest anything else
[04:38] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: WorkingOnWise: 'compiz' is the package. In this case, I go to Appearance > Effects > "Could not enable" (blacklisted card since Gutsy). Then I go to beryl-manager+emerald > decorator doesn't work
[04:38] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: That is b/c beryl is not designed to work in gutsy. Gutsy == Gnome 2. Beryl == Feisty == Gnome 1
[04:38] <Ashfire908> nickrud, nope. my system has the black window bug and indirect-rendering leads to the windows not drawing themselves...
[04:38] <Malik_> how do u program on linux?
[04:38] <matholum> beerfan> lol, my goal is to have the same documents folder in windows and ubuntu
[04:38] <Malik_> do u need to know c++ and all
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: There are several languages
[04:39] <Malik_> i heard u donot need to know any
[04:39] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I want to understand if compiz-fusion is the stuff installed by default (effects tab) or if I have to install additional package
[04:39] <nickrud> Ashfire908, ah, then I have no answer to that bug ....
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: BASH, is simple scripts that will run as commands, python. . .
[04:39] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: It is installed by default.
[04:39] <Malik_> liek cmd
[04:39] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Except for CCSM
[04:39] <beerfan> matholum: this solution would work. Just "ln -s /media/sdaX ~/Documents"
[04:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Simple CLI is simple to get the basics, but a life time to master
[04:40] <Malik_> o
[04:40] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: it's installed by default, you need only install the ccsm the configuration manager and enable glx wth your vid card.
[04:40] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: what does replace beryl-manager and emerald?
[04:40] <Malik_> and i got a few other questiosn to
[04:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: eh?
[04:40] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: CCSM = ?
[04:40] <matholum> beerfan> alright... lemme try it real qwik ^_^
[04:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: CCSM is Compiz-Config Manager, the GUI settings for extra-effects and settings
[04:40] <Malik_> i didn;t get linux yet but wat do u say should i put it on my good computer thta u use for school work or my suky computer
[04:40] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: yes, ccsm.
[04:41] <nickrud> Malik_, your suky computer, if the other is mission critical :)
[04:41] <Ashfire908> nickrud, it's installing...
[04:41] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva:  another good channel for compiz is #ubuntu-effects
[04:41] <Malik_> and on linux will i hav a lot of problems
[04:41] <Malik_> would i be able to go to the internet and browse the web?
[04:41] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Absolutely.
[04:42] <Malik_> and download things like intenet expolorer
[04:42] <nickrud> Ashfire908, when you start talking about rendering bugs, you're getting out of my league, sorry
[04:42] <Malik_> and office 2007
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: emerald is valid still? Will Emerald themes for Beryl work on compiz-fusion?
[04:42] <PurpZeY> Malik_: All of that will come quickly. You will not have Office 2007, you'd have OpenOffice, it's equivalent.
[04:42] <beerfan> Malik_: Ubuntu doesn't need all that. It comes with alternatives.
[04:42] <RenatoSilva> Scunizi: thank you
[04:42] <brittney-> i have had ubuntu lock up on me a couple times now... and everything freezes, you can't click anything, but the mouse will move
[04:42] <brittney-> has anyone else seen this problem?
[04:42] <Scunizi> Malik_: forget IE in Linux. as well as office 07
[04:42] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Emerald is still a theme manager, but I believe it's been upgraded.
[04:42] <nickrud> Malik_, built in alternatives, you don't pay for them :)
[04:42] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: np
[04:43] <Malik_> i donot pay for office 2007 jus download
[04:43] <Malik_> so y can't i hav it?
[04:43] <Malik_> not compatiable?
[04:43] <Scunizi> Malik_: doesn't matter if it's free. it won't work
[04:43] <nickrud> Malik_, yes.
[04:43] <matholum> beerfan> now i have a shortcut to the new folder inside of the old
[04:43] <beerfan> Malik_: office is windows software
[04:43] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: so I could try it to get the same feisty appearance?
[04:43] <NDAKOTA> .
[04:43] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You might be able to run it, under wine, a windows emulator....but OpenOffice is just exactly the same.
[04:43] <Ashfire908> nickrud, black window bug makes all the windows' content area stuff to be black. indirect rednereing does something weird in x and after awhile you have to resize windows to make them refresh
[04:43] <Malik_> so i can run it?
[04:43] <nickrud> not 2007, although I've heard of 2003 working
[04:43] <ekim|linux> hey
[04:43] <Malik_> o man
[04:43] <beerfan> matholum: you need to rename or delete the Documents folder first and then create the symlink in your home dir
[04:43] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If you have that theme, yes, it would seem, yes to me.
[04:44] <ekim|linux> I use the gnome remote-desktop capplet for vnc right
[04:44] <Malik_> and y can apple run it and not linux
[04:44] <Malik_> i mean mac*
[04:44] <NDAKOTA> anyone know of any good laptop for software development?
[04:44] <ekim|linux> how can I change the arguments that the vncserver uses ?
[04:44] <PurpZeY> Malik_: But it doesn't matter b/c OpenOffice will use all of the windows doc and mac formats
[04:44] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva:  My advice is this: 1) research first and find out for sure if your video card works with compiz-fusion. 2)remove Everything for both beryl And compiz-fusion. Everything. 3) Install compiz-fusion if you card works with it, and beryl if it doesnt. If u use beryl, there will be unknown problems because Ubuntu isn't activly supporting beryl and u will need to go to the beryl forums for good help. If u are able to u
[04:44] <matholum> beerfan> alright
[04:44] <nickrud> Ashfire908, ah, so it's beatable. Me, I've got really simple issues, like ati
[04:44] <jdh6403> cuz microsoft makes a version for apple  thats why
[04:44] <ekim|linux> I need to change the geometry to 1024x768
[04:44] <Malik_> o
[04:44] <Ashfire908> nickrud, what's it do?
[04:44] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: so the problem now is how to make Gutsy accept my video card as Feisty did.
[04:44] <PurpZeY> Malik_: All of the formats will be readable and editable by OpenOffice.
[04:44] <NDAKOTA> anyone knows any good laptops for software development?
[04:45] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I tried to help you with that issue over an hour ago and you told me I wasn't listening
[04:45] <jdh6403> yes  open office is just a better app Malik_
[04:45] <Malik_> but wat about ll the oter things
[04:45] <nickrud> Ashfire908, until recently didn't work properly with compiz, allow suspend, crappy slow speed. Getting better, and much faster than I'd hoped
[04:45] <Malik_> like i will hav to look around for alternittives all the time
[04:45] <Scunizi> NDAKOTA: that means compiling.. intel core 2 duo
[04:45] <Ashfire908> nickrud, are you sure it's vlc?
[04:45] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You won't have to go looking for them. . .
[04:45] <nickrud> Ashfire908, it's the most capable dvd player
[04:45] <Ashfire908> nickrud, it's just a video player
[04:45] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to modprobe the kernel for reiser4 support, or do I have to compile my own?
[04:45] <Malik_> but i will hav to get them........
[04:45] <jdh6403> Malik_: if office 2007 can do it   so can open office  and with less intrusive hassles
[04:45] <NDAKOTA> Scunizi, is core 2 duo any faster than pentium M at the same clock speed
[04:45] <PurpZeY> Malik_: For 99% of what you need, they will be right in front of you, just click install and poof
[04:46] <Malik_> from where
[04:46] <beerfan> Ashfire908: vlc is the most capable video player. It knows all formats. or damn near
[04:46] <Malik_> install from where!
[04:46] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: 1) it was blavcklisted since Gutsy without any explanation for the end user, like:  'effects could not be enabled becasue in this version your video card is no longer supported'
[04:46] <Malik_> its not gunna be that simple
[04:46] <nickrud> Ashfire908, so if that encrypted dvd is playable, it will play it. There's a new dvd encryption out (used on rush hour 3 for example) that hasn't been added to libdvdcss yet
[04:46] <Malik_> linux is said ti such a hassel
[04:46] <Ashfire908> so no totem using?
[04:46] <Scunizi> NDAKOTA: yep.. and uses less power.. it's the newest.. look at dell vostro for lower prices
[04:46] <PurpZeY> Malik_: They come from the repositories, through three ways...1) Synaptic, which is a tool for downloading programs, 2) Add/Remove programs, or 3) Using CLI
[04:46] <ekim|linux> also...how can I get hibernate to work on my laptop
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: blacklisted in compiz-fusion?
[04:47] <ekim|linux> is there a page on that somewhere ?
[04:47] <Ashfire908> nickrud, this is M:i:III
[04:47] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, have you looked at the link I gave you? It has the reason ....
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: or beryl on gutsy?
[04:47] <matholum> beerfan> it seems to work, but do i have to refresh anything or restart? it isn't in the places bar yet and openoffice got mad at it
[04:47] <Malik_> how come micrsoft didn't sue linuc for open office
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> WorkingOnWise: the command I ran was 'compiz', then it tells me about blacklisting
[04:47] <beerfan> matholum: you may need to log out or kill nautilus
[04:47] <PurpZeY> Malik_: B/C there's nothing illegal
[04:47] <Malik_> wat bout the office how is that leegal
[04:47] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: ?
[04:47] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Please see the link nickrud gave
[04:47] <WorkingOnWise> Malik_: lololol.....nothing to sue for...
[04:47] <matholum> beerfan> thanks alot ^_^
[04:47] <Scunizi> Malik_: it's entirely different code.
[04:48] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Microsoft has the word Office trademarked?
[04:48] <jdh6403> lol
[04:48] <Malik_> yea kinda
[04:48] <PurpZeY> Yeah kind -- no
[04:48] <beerfan> PurpZeY: why not? they trademarked the word "windows"
[04:48] <Malik_> but wat about the gamming probelmm
[04:48] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: user should be noticed. Instead, it only says: "Could not enable effects because don't" (just like on Windows)
[04:48] <Malik_> i heard u can't play gameso n linux
[04:48] <Ashfire908> you can't trademark a common word, right?
[04:48] <Malik_> do they mean liek internet games or like those ocmputer games
[04:48] <PurpZeY> beerfan: Want a real legal analysis, I am in law school just finished an entire semester of software law
[04:49] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist <-- third time I've given you this link
[04:49] <nickrud> maybe 4th
[04:49] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it should say: "This version of ubuntu does not support your video card anymore"
[04:49] <Ashfire908> they trademarked "Microsoft Windows"?
[04:49] <maxlinux> hi
[04:49] <maxlinux>  all
[04:49] <Scunizi> Malik_: games exist.. and some good  ones.. not many commercial games.  they are designed for  windows only in most cases
[04:49] <WorkingOnWise> RenatoSilva: then it sounds like your only options are go back to beryl fully, or use neither and wait till compiz-fusion is able to play with your card....bummer choices I know.....
[04:49] <beerfan> Malik_: some games can be played on Wine. Some games have a native linux version.
[04:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some games designed for windows won't run in Ubuntu...Some can and will, there are lists available and there are good games that are available.
[04:49] <matholum> another question for you guys... i am putting ubuntu on another computer and i tried a few boot options but i can't see the ubuntu splash screen or progress bar and it takes a long time to load. It is a toshiba satellite w/ an ati card
[04:49] <Beetle121> Hey guys...I've been using Ubuntu for less than 24 hours and I'm starting to get used to the idea of packages and so forth. I'd like to know where is the best place to get information on third party repositories ?
[04:49] <PurpZeY> Beetle121: I'd add third party repos as needed
[04:50] <Malik_> how much percent will?
[04:50] <Malik_> with wine included
[04:50] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, but it does. Don't put your issues on everyone else. If you would take the time to listen, then think about what you've been told, you would have been enjoying the effects a half hour ago
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Check the wine website. . .
[04:50] <Malik_> and wat is wine a software and emulatory or wat
[04:50] <Malik_> wine is a microsoft emulator for linux....lol j/k
[04:50] <beerfan> wine is a windows compatibility layer for linux
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Wine is a program that will allow you to run windows software in a linux environment.
[04:50] <kaatil> window is not emulator.
[04:50] <Scunizi> Beetle121: don't go there yet. you might bork  your system.. check synaptic and make sure  universe and multiverse  are activated.. you can also check www.getdeb.net
[04:50] <Beetle121> Purpzey I need to find a p2p program or will I need to install it myself?
[04:50] <kaatil> hence 'wine'
[04:50] <PurpZeY> Beetle121: Frostwire
[04:51] <maxlinux> every video i wanna watch is kinda wrecked. either in vlc or totem .  with wrecked i mean , the video runs but the top of the video is cut and on the bottom there is nothing
[04:51] <maxlinux> who knows why
[04:51] <Ashfire908> nickrud, wow vlc is packed with features
[04:51] <Malik_> wat about online games...will those work
[04:51] <nickrud> Ashfire908, yup.
[04:51] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Change the output to x11
[04:51] <maxlinux> what do you mean
[04:51] <Beetle121> Thanks for the help:)
[04:51] <maxlinux> im a newbie
[04:51] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Any game that works, will work online
[04:51] <Malik_> i mean liek internet games
[04:52] <maxlinux> output to x11?
[04:52] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Using VLC/
[04:52] <RoxanneEDM> hey guys, im gonna wipe my laptop, and install fresh.... and words of wisdom? im going to take my whole HOME folder, and back it up on a external drive...anything else?,
[04:52] <beerfan> Malik_: you'll have to research each game individually. Some do, and some don't.
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Flash games do....
[04:52] <Malik_> o
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Java games do
[04:52] <Scunizi> Malik_: you mean like Unreal tournament  2004, tremulous, open arena etc.. yes
[04:52] <Malik_> yea
[04:52] <Malik_> lol
[04:52] <beerfan> Malik_: WoW, for example, runs fine on linux
[04:52] <PurpZeY> Malik_: WoW
[04:52] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: y do u need to reinstall?
[04:52] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: it does?
[04:52] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U <user@domain>".. getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[04:53] <Malik_> so wats better mac or linux i know windows is out
[04:53] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, that page tells you how to skip over the blacklisting
[04:53] <PurpZeY> !best | Malik_
[04:53] <ubotu> Malik_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[04:53] <maxlinux> in which options i can change that ?
[04:53] <maxlinux> purpzey?
[04:53] <RoxanneEDM> WorkingOnWise:  i installed Ubuntu, then added kubuntu, than mythbuntu.. i just want everything cleaned up
[04:53] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm on my computer reading its message, and you're not here to see anything. And you want to tell me that it tells me a thing that I'm saying it doesn't? Is that?
[04:54] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I am not positive. I know you need to turn on advanced options...and it's near output...nickrud might know for positives...to change video out to x11.
[04:54] <Scunizi> Malik_: linux if you already have a pc you want to use, mac if you have money to burn.. both have options just more in linux
[04:54] <Malik_> aren;t those bots
[04:54] <maxlinux> ive only found input
[04:54] <RoxanneEDM> i want it to act like it did when it was a fresh install... nice and quick
[04:54] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, no, I've seen that message. I skipped the blacklist, using that page I gave you.
[04:54] <Ashfire908> Malik_, a bot in there has a popularity list think
[04:54] <Ashfire908> *thing
[04:54] <Malik_> iam rich but i want linux
[04:54] <Ashfire908> Malik_, then get linux.
[04:54] <Scunizi> Malik_: then get linux
[04:54] <Malik_> do u think linux makes ppl look all cool and stuff?
[04:54] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I know there is an option somewhere. . .I am sorry, I just don't remember where it is, ask in the chan, I know someone will know
[04:54] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: HOW MANY TIMES I have to tell you that Bash (do you know what's it?) inperpret that variable setting as a COMMAND!
[04:54] <maxlinux> WOW DUDE PURPZEY IT WORKS
[04:54] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: lol...I do that a bunch! why not just remove what u dont want with synaptic? seems easier....
[04:54] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I feel super cool.
[04:55] <Malik_> that cube thing is jus to awsome
[04:55] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I am the coolest kid in law school
[04:55] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: Sweet.
[04:55] <maxlinux> and what about totem and stuff? ill need to set it up all single?
[04:55] <Malik_> wat age is appropriate for linuc
[04:55] <maxlinux> thx again apprechiate your help
[04:55]  * Scunizi is beginning to think Malik_ is just egging us on.
[04:55] <Malik_> purpzey LOL!
[04:55] <Ashfire908> Malik_, any
[04:55] <matholum> sorry to pawn this off on you guys, but any ideas on why i can't see the ubuntu load bar and have the long load time?
[04:55] <PurpZeY> maxlinux: I think it is limited to VLC. . .I might be wrong on that
[04:55] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, then you are typing it wrong. It's a well known technique in bash to set an evironment variable for an app. I've used it hundreds of times in other situations as well.
[04:55] <RoxanneEDM> WorkingOnWise:  i did, but it leaves things in the "start menu"(whatever its called on here), and the opening splash screen is Mythbuntu
[04:55] <beerfan> Malik_: well, the OLPC is designed for children ;-)
[04:55] <Malik_> lol
[04:55] <Ashfire908> Malik_, linux makes you more nerdy/geeky
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: SO it doesn't say what you said it says, huh! I would never know what was happening if I didn't knew IRC
[04:56] <Malik_> i wanan be that!
[04:56] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It makes me sexy, girls ask me all the time "Do you use linux b/c if you don't I'm leaving?"
[04:56] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, for example,  COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l
[04:56] <PurpZeY> Then they say, what's that smell.
[04:56] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: I'm typing it wrong?
[04:56] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: ah....well, the home folder is all I ever back up.
[04:56] <Malik_> iam good with the ladiies but i also liek being smart and geeky
[04:56] <RoxanneEDM> thank you WorkingOnWise
[04:56] <Scunizi> Malik_: linux makes you wise, insightfull, trustworthy of yourself, adventurous, inquisitive and many more adjatives
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Using linux is a learning experience, you can't necessarily expect that poof you'll learn it...But if you want to learn and you just fool around, you will.
[04:57] <nownot> running into a problem when streaming off my server im on 10/100 but when streaming hd video im getting around 333KBs and the video lags etc.. wondering if it may have to do with drivers or something like that
[04:57] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: u have that too?  :)
[04:57]  * PurpZeY grins
[04:57] <Malik_> yea but sometimes u jus wanan giv up
[04:57] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, I just ran it here:    SKIP_CHECKS=yes  compiz   and it works.
[04:57] <Malik_> like i gav up on c++
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I am failing to see the actual question here.
[04:57] <jdh6403> lol
[04:58] <Malik_> well the atucallcal question is
[04:58] <jdh6403> it is a question wrapped in a riddle wrapped in gooey cheese
[04:58] <Malik_> wat r the requirments fo rit
[04:58] <PurpZeY> or beryl?
[04:58] <Malik_> liek ram and all?
[04:58] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Very low.
[04:58] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Especially if run xubuntu
[04:58] <jdh6403> malik  versions of linux can run on an ipod
[04:58] <RoxanneEDM> i have another question guys, i want to turn this older PC into a box my 5 year old can use, does anyone know of some kid friendly software?
[04:58] <Ashfire908> Malik_, ubuntu's got python preinstalled, so you can give up on something outher than ubuntu
[04:58] <Malik_> lol ywa i know
[04:58] <Malik_> can make it in to video
[04:58] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: A toaster....
[04:59] <jdh6403> that too
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Make what?
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: maybe  used *Y*es
[04:59] <Malik_> a ipod thats not video in to a video 1
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: I don't think that's on topic.
[04:59] <beerfan> Malik_: Linux runs on just about anything and does just about anything. The level of determination required is what is variable.
[04:59] <Ashfire908> Malik_, 256 MB (for "ubuntu", xubuntu is 128MB) , 2.1 GB, no real cpu requirment
[04:59] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some guys ran linux on a toaster
[04:59] <jdh6403> lol
[04:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: now the problems is to find a manager. ccsm doesn't exist
[05:00] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U <user@domain>".. getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[05:00] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: CCSM isn't default, you gotta install it
[05:00] <jdh6403> thats why the flying toasters screensaver exists no doubt
[05:00] <PurpZeY> jdh6403: I mean recently...google it
[05:00] <Malik_> wat
[05:00] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: lol... I just ran SKIP_CHECKS=yes  compiz, and it kicked off a bunch of stuff in the terminal...then crashed the decorator! hehe
[05:00] <Malik_> wat  do u mean on a toaster
[05:00] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager , it'll be in the prefs under advanced
[05:00] <jdh6403> i have seen it
[05:00] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: synaptic doesn't have it listed as ccsm but it's there...
[05:00] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, ah, bad idea to run it when it's already running :)
[05:00] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: see nickrud s post for the right name
[05:00] <jdh6403> i used to have an xbox that had linux on it
[05:01] <jdh6403> made a damn fine puter
[05:01] <RoxanneEDM> does anyone not set up linux boxes for thier children to play on ?
[05:01] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: hehe...yeah. but now re again verify that it IS a valid command on a properly setup machine. :)
[05:01] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, and as the page I gave you said, you can make the skip checks permanent by editing that .config file
[05:01] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Some really geeky guys installed linux on a toaster...the point is, system requirements are quite low
[05:01] <Scunizi> RoxanneEDM: I dual boot my kids
[05:01] <jdh6403> RoxanneEDM: i have several proggys for my nephew to play with
[05:02] <Malik_> lol
[05:02] <beerfan> RoxanneEDM: I do not, because I have no children. I suspect many people do not.
[05:02]  * PurpZeY thinks that nickrud has the patience of a patron saint 
[05:02] <Ashfire908> i got a xbox. i have yet to attempt to install linux on it.
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> Your here...so aparently its working correctly....or are you on a different pc landspite?
[05:02] <RoxanneEDM> thanks for the info beerfan...
[05:02] <Scunizi> beerfan: that they know of  anyway :)
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> lol...dang
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> oh wel
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> my computer is LAGGED
[05:02] <RoxanneEDM> jdh6403:  what do you have ?
[05:02] <jdh6403> that tux paint proggy is brilloiant and my nephew wont leave it alone
[05:02] <nickrud> PurpZeY, more like an arrogant certainty that I can teach anyone ;P
[05:02] <WorkingOnWise> RoxanneEDM: I have set up a few linux boxes for kids....
[05:02] <speeddemon8803> heh, good deal jdh :)
[05:03] <RoxanneEDM> i seen one little suite that is in synaptic
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Malik_: What are you worried about losing?
[05:03] <Malik_> time
[05:03] <RenatoSilva> Scunizi: thank you
[05:03] <nownot> no ideas on slow streaming from ubuntu box
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Stop yammering here and isntall.
[05:03] <jdh6403> my puter was originally a fast as hell puter preinstalled with vista...vista sucked ass (it seems to be the new ME) and i switched to ubuntu
[05:03] <Scunizi> RenatoSilva: np
[05:04] <Malik_> lool ....ty
[05:04] <Malik_> thats wat i was lookin for
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Malik_: If you have a problem with the install or whatever, come here we help
[05:04] <beerfan> Malik_: have you booted the live cd? No time lost on that man
[05:04] <Malik_> wat
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Malik_: beerfan makes a good point
[05:04] <Malik_> wats r u guys sayin?
[05:04] <jdh6403> RoxanneEDM: holla at me if you wanna chat or need help
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: i edited on file
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: If you burn the CD of the website, it is a liveCD, you can boot into Ubuntu and take a test run without any risk
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You just have to change your boot order in BIOS to get it to boot
[05:05] <Malik_> o a test run
[05:05] <Malik_> o
[05:05] <Malik_> cool
[05:05] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: my old theme is working. Now I just have to make windows become soft
[05:05] <Malik_> so doest the test run giv all the features...lol
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: That is the regular install cd...Called a LiveCD.
[05:05] <Ashfire908> how useful is webmin if you already know your way around a server?
[05:05] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It will, but it will not save anything permanently and installing software is iffy
[05:06] <Malik_> so far i downloaded ubunutu from the site and am gunna buurn it
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Malik_, the LiveCD lacks a few things
[05:06] <Scunizi> Ashfire908: sounds like you already answered your own question
[05:06] <Malik_> o
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Malik_, yes you burn it to a disk
[05:06] <Malik_> y not a floppy
[05:06] <Malik_> or a usb flash
[05:06] <Scunizi> Malik_: slowly
[05:06] <jdh6403> lmao floppy
[05:06] <Malik_> y can;t we burn it there
[05:06] <PurpZeY> Malik_: The entire operating system is on the disk
[05:06] <beerfan> Ashfire908: what does it lack? If you have plenty of ram you can install anything it's missing
[05:06] <Ashfire908> Scunizi, all i know is that webmin is some web admin think
[05:06] <Malik_> or y can;t we burn it on our selves
[05:06] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You can
[05:06] <Malik_> u think iam an idiot or wat?
[05:06] <RoxanneEDM> jdh6403:  i PMd you  :)
[05:07] <PurpZeY> or what
[05:07] <Ashfire908> beerfan, no i mean.... oh nvm my point is stupid
[05:07] <Malik_> w/e ...the point is ppl think iam an idiot for some reason
[05:07] <RoxanneEDM> lol malik
[05:07] <jdh6403> and i just pmed u RoxanneEDM
[05:07] <macksting> Does anybody here know a way to exit a stubborn program in DosBox?
[05:07] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Can you download and run the LiveCD?
[05:07] <jdh6403> weird
[05:07] <Ashfire908> Malik_, well some people think every is an idiot
[05:07] <RoxanneEDM> hmmm im not getting any messages
[05:08] <Malik_> i got another question
[05:08] <Ashfire908> macksting, kill dosbox?
[05:08] <Malik_> iam thinkng of upgrading before i install linux
[05:08] <macksting> Ashfire: Suggestions?
[05:08] <jdh6403> well chit
[05:08] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Just ask 'em as they come
[05:08] <Scunizi> RoxanneEDM: if your nick is not registered you won't
[05:08] <macksting> I had trouble doing so.
[05:08] <jdh6403> ahhhh
[05:08] <RoxanneEDM> ok thats probably why
[05:08] <Malik_> could i upgrade the ram while a os is already on
[05:08] <jdh6403> thats the reason
[05:08] <Ashfire908> Ashfire908, uh..... pkill dosbox?
[05:08] <crazee_canuck> Malik_,  yes
[05:08] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Upgrading RAM can be done whenever.
[05:08] <macksting> pkill. Thanks.
[05:08] <Malik_> wat about hd
[05:08] <macksting> I'll try that right about now.
[05:08] <Scunizi> Malik_: lol  would y ou install a hd while its on?
[05:08] <beerfan> Malik_: linux doesn't stop working if you change hardware, unlike windows
[05:08] <jdh6403> how do i register
[05:09] <PurpZeY> Malik_: You can add an HD, but not change out the one the O/S is installed to
[05:09] <Clearzen> Malik_: Do you have a hot swappable raid setup?
[05:09] <Malik_> wat?
[05:09] <RoxanneEDM> how do i register my nick
[05:09] <Clearzen> nvm
[05:09] <riotkittie> RoxanneEDM: /msg nickserv help register
[05:09] <crazee_canuck> jdh6403, /msg nickserv register password
[05:09] <soldats>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:09] <nickrud> !register | RoxanneEDM
[05:09] <ubotu> RoxanneEDM: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:09] <Ashfire908> Malik_, you would need to copy all the data from one diver to another
[05:09] <Malik_> so id i want mroe ram do i hav to take out my previous
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Unless, you are just adding a drive
[05:10] <Malik_> o
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It depends on your RAM setup.
[05:10] <Ashfire908> Malik_, can't do either ram change or hdd while the computer is powered on, of course
[05:10] <jdh6403> oops
[05:10]  * macksting reopens the game and suddenly feels very, very stupid.
[05:10]  * PurpZeY looks at Ashfire908 in consideration of anyone doing that. . . . 
[05:10] <Malik_> how many ram slots do computer hav and how much ram can they hold
[05:10] <macksting> Alt-Enter.
[05:10] <macksting> It would have fixed everything.
[05:10] <PurpZeY> Malik_: It depends from board to board.
[05:10] <RoxanneEDM> msg nickserv register hayden
[05:10] <Ashfire908> Malik_, open the case and look!
[05:10] <PurpZeY> whoops
[05:11] <RoxanneEDM> guess that password is not gonna be used
[05:11] <nickrud> lol RoxanneEDM
[05:11] <Malik_> yea iam in a diffrent country
[05:11] <RoxanneEDM> lol
[05:11] <beerfan> Malik_: if you're rich you should just have someone do that for you ;-)
[05:11] <Malik_> iam going back tommrow
[05:11] <Malik_> to canada
[05:11]  * PurpZeY giggles @ beerfan
[05:11] <Malik_> form us
[05:11] <jdh6403> ok  now im registered
[05:11] <macksting> I'll bear pkill in mind, but I gotta say, I don't think I'll need it for Ultima after all. Thanks! Adios!
[05:11] <Malik_> yea beerfan ur doin it
[05:11] <Malik_> lol
[05:11] <Malik_> tommrow
[05:11] <Malik_> wwatch i will eb at my house
[05:11] <beerfan> for a beer I'll do it
[05:11] <Malik_> iam j/k i jus enjoy these things
[05:11] <Malik_> lol so ur drunk and u mess up
[05:11] <Ashfire908> macksting, gnome-system-monitor is nice for killing processes
[05:11] <crazee_canuck> RoxanneEDM, a safer way, /query nickserv       then in that new window/tab type      register password
[05:11] <Malik_> idiot...lol j/k
[05:12] <Micc> I have gutsy gibbon installed but my workspaces don't behave the way I would expect and I don't see the preference that are mentioned in the forums.
[05:12] <PurpZeY> Micc: You have to install Compiz-Config manager
[05:12] <macksting> Ashfire: How do I get to it?
[05:12] <PurpZeY> Micc: Use synaptic.
[05:12] <beerfan> Micc: clarify your problem
[05:12] <nickrud> PurpZeY, learn the freaking name :)
[05:12] <Malik_> so i donot get the hard drive part can do hradrives be on at ocne and wats all this partition stuff
[05:12] <RoxanneEDM> jdh6403:  i see you typing, you cant see me , i need to reg.
[05:12] <PurpZeY> nickrud: How shall I refer to it?
[05:12]  * macksting sticks around for the answer to Micc's question.
[05:12] <Ashfire908> macksting, alt-f2, type in gnome-system-monitor and click run
[05:13] <jdh6403> ok
[05:13] <Micc> I can't fine workspace settings. I had setup alt-1-4 to switch workspaces.
[05:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:13] <Micc> but It doesn't work anymore.
[05:13] <Clearzen> PurpZeY: ccsm
[05:13] <Ashfire908> Night
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Clearzen: I know ccsm, but ccsm is useless to someone who has no idea
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Micc: You need compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:13] <AstroFoo> hello, does the standard php5-cgi package support fastcgi by default?
[05:13] <Clearzen> you can install it with sudo aptitude install ccsm
[05:13] <Malik_> and  can some1 gimem a link that can help me identify computer parts cause all i can identify is the ram
[05:13] <Ashfire908> Malik_, google?
[05:13] <macksting> Thanks, Ashfire. I'm out.
[05:13] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Not me.
[05:14] <Ashfire908> Malik_, better yet, ask.com
[05:14] <iamchris> I just got gutsy and compiz running, finally@
[05:14] <iamchris> !
[05:14] <Ashfire908> google sucks.
[05:14] <Malik_> or can some1 add me on msn and i can send them my internet pics
[05:14] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: lol, I think you just aren't using it properly
[05:14] <Malik_> r u the guys answering the questiosn at ask.com....lol!
[05:14] <soldats> google is what make earth spin
[05:14] <Malik_> LOL heehehe!
[05:15] <nickrud> !enter | Malik_
[05:15] <ubotu> Malik_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:15] <Ashfire908> no google sucks. you enter in "a" and get some mix of a, b, e, z, ifhw9uih4 and gi4ht.
[05:15] <Malik_> o
[05:15] <PurpZeY> Anyone besides me been watching the twilight zone for 48 hours?
[05:15] <Malik_> sry
[05:15] <Ashfire908> actually i don't get anything relavant
[05:15] <Scunizi> PurpZeY: sometimes it is the twilight zone in here.
[05:15] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: What are you looking for?
[05:15] <nickrud> Ashfire908, what are you googling?
[05:15] <beerfan> Ashfire908: garbage in, garbage out
[05:15] <fallore> heheh
[05:15] <Ashfire908> i search for a and get a, but i actually wanted a, aa, aaa
[05:15] <Micc> seems like it should be a standard installed thing.
[05:16] <Ashfire908> nothing right now
[05:16] <soldats> Ashfire908, there are a lot of more hidden commands to get better results with google just goolge them to find out
[05:16] <Clearzen> Ashfire908: use quotes
[05:16] <PurpZeY> Micc: I have thought the same thing, but once it's installed it's no worries
[05:16] <nickrud> rflol soldats
[05:16] <Ashfire908> no i don't mean literaly
[05:16] <soldats> :P
[05:16] <Micc> I've heard somewhere there's a way to run visual studio on linux? or something similar grasshopper or something?
[05:16] <Ashfire908> i mean like i look for X and get X, but i wanted X and Y but i don't know what Y is
[05:17] <iamchris> This may be throwing myself under the bus here, but how do I get one of those awesome mac-esque taskbars?
[05:17] <Ashfire908> i can't explain it too well
[05:17] <Ashfire908> gtg night
[05:17] <beerfan> iamchris: google for awn
[05:17] <riotkittie> work space settings can also be found under Preference > Appearence  w/o CCSM installed. i'm not sure if it has its own tab or not
[05:17] <nickrud> iamchris, look for avant-window-navigator
[05:17] <Clearzen> iamchris: it's called a dock and there is a few options. I don't use
[05:17] <iamchris> will it be in synaptec?
[05:17] <Clearzen> one personally
[05:18] <nickrud> iamchris, no, not this release
[05:18] <Clearzen> Perhaps, I know there is avant that is supposed to be a good choice
[05:22] <matholum> hello everyone... i don't know if you heard me ask it before, but i have a qwik question... i have a toshiba satellite w/ an ati card and the boot is very slow and i can't see the ubuntu splash screen or the progress bar... any ideas on what to do?
[05:22] <Micc> wow, this compiz thing has a lot of cool features.
[05:22] <misterblonde2517> how do i exit teh terminal
[05:22] <Micc> this is way cooler than vista.
[05:22] <beerfan> misterblonde2517: exit
[05:22] <Scunizi> matholum: is this on feisty or gutsy?
[05:22] <methods> why does udevd take up all my cpu ?
[05:22] <matholum> gutsy
[05:22] <misterblonde2517> it brings me back to login
[05:22] <speeddemon8803> All?
[05:22] <Clearzen> misterblonde2517: exit or logout
[05:23] <matholum> i tried a few boot options but nothing happens...
[05:23] <misterblonde2517> both bring me back to the login screen
[05:23] <Scunizi> matholum: on feisty you could solve that prob by putting "irqpoll' at the end of the kernel line in grub.. I don't know if it will work in gutsy
[05:23] <matholum> alright... let me try it (it isn't this comp)
[05:24] <Scunizi> k
[05:25] <W_McL> matholum, also by removing the "quiet" and "splash" boot options, you will see the system messages during boot
[05:25] <whuffor> I am getting: "Desktop effects could not be enabled" when I try to enable them for my desktop. I have a new ubuntu 7.10 install. Any way to fix this?
[05:25] <Micc> I'm not seeing how I change workspaces with this cube thing.
[05:26] <silverhi> g
[05:26] <Cpudan80> matholum: Yep - easy fix
[05:26] <beerfan> Micc: try ctrl-alt-left or right
[05:26] <Cpudan80> The factoid is ehhhh
[05:26] <Scunizi> whuffor: u have to enable the restricted drivers for your vid card
[05:26] <Cpudan80> !brokensplash | matholum
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brokensplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Is ubotu not here?
[05:26] <whuffor> Scunizi: Ah, ok. Thanks. I'll look into that.
[05:27] <Scunizi> Cpudan80: ubotu answered your query.. so "he's" here.
[05:27] <whuffor> Scunizi: No joy there. I got the message: "Your hardware don't need proprietary drivers"
[05:27] <matholum> i have tried that several times and i could only see the output once, and when it did it went faster
[05:27] <matholum> i tried irqpoll and i still can't see anything untill the logon screen and it still takes forever
[05:27] <matholum> -_-
[05:27] <Scunizi> whuffor: I've never seen that message before..
[05:27] <beerfan> whuffor: your video card may be too new, may be blacklisted
[05:28] <beerfan> It doesn't recognize my nvidia card because it's too new
[05:28] <PurpZeY> beerfan: I used to run beryl. I ran beryl in feisty. Why is it blacklisted
[05:28] <whuffor> beerfan: I sort of doubt that. I had kubuntu briefly installed earlier and I could enable lots of funky effects there.
[05:28] <Cpudan80> matholum: Not sure if you saw my message before my client screwed up
[05:29] <matholum> cpudan> it was an easy fix... but it only worked once... -_-
[05:29] <Cpudan80> !brokensplash | matholum
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brokensplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <PurpZeY> Guess beryl works
[05:29] <matholum> i will look at the brokensplash thing
[05:29] <nickrud> whuffor, try running    SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz  in a terminal , see if it starts
[05:29] <Cpudan80> matholum: That  brokensplash is the real one
[05:29] <Cpudan80> !broken-splash
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken-splash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <puppt> !brokenusplash
[05:29] <ubotu> Supported screen resolutions are sometimes detected incorrectly, causing the splash screen to not appear and slowing down boot. Edit /etc/usplash.conf and change "xres" and "yres" to a resolution that your graphics system certainly supports, then run « sudo update-usplash-theme usplash-theme-ubuntu »
[05:29] <matholum> ok, add that in the grub line?
[05:30] <Cpudan80> matholum: no, do that thing ubotu just said
[05:30] <nickrud> oh, brokensplash I need to try that one
[05:30] <Scunizi> matholum: you do it from a terminal
[05:30] <matholum> wow thanks... i will give that a try
[05:31] <Cpudan80> matholum: A common problem with laptops... not sure if that's the situation you're in
[05:31] <matholum> well... it is a laptop so maybe
[05:31] <whuffor> nickrud: OK. Will try
[05:31] <Micc> what is this glib main loop support in compiz?
[05:32] <phreck> whenever i try to re-size a window, my WM goes stupid, and everything comes to a screeching halt
[05:32] <phreck> super slow
[05:32] <beerfan> Micc: if you don't understand it, don't mess with it. Compiz is still developmental
[05:32] <Micc> ah, that must be why its not a default install.
[05:32] <phreck> uh
[05:32] <phreck> it actually is in ubuntu 7.10 i believe
[05:33] <beerfan> the UI is not
[05:33] <nickrud> Micc, glib main loop is the wait for user or other event loop
[05:33] <Micc> I have 7.10 but it didn't install automatically for me.
[05:33] <phreck> yes it did
[05:33] <phreck> it just wasnt labeled "compiz-fusion"
[05:33] <phreck> its under "desktop effects"
[05:34] <matholum> hmm... still no splash... -_-
[05:34] <Malik_> i got another question
[05:34] <Micc> I must have installed 7.10 early on. it didn't have it. I just installed the compiz settings
[05:34] <matholum> i saw it when i shutdown though
[05:34] <jdh6403> wb maynards-girl
[05:34] <Malik_> will i be able to put a xp or vista llok on linux
[05:34] <Cpudan80> Gutsy doesn't have compiz in it by default
[05:34] <jdh6403> yes malik
[05:34] <Cpudan80> You have to add it
[05:35] <maynards-girl> thanks! glad to be back
[05:35] <beerfan> compiz is installed by default, with a few fusion modules enabled. The ccsm UI is not installed by default.
[05:35] <Malik_> i can
[05:35] <matholum> any idea why taking out quiet and splash didn't work?
[05:35] <phreck> Cpudan80: no, it doesnt have the manager in it, it does however use compiz for its desktop effects.
[05:35] <Cpudan80> beerfan: is correct
[05:35] <whuffor> nickrud: No joy. Getting error messages from that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50465/
[05:35] <Cpudan80> matholum: did that thing fix your problem?
[05:35] <nickrud> whuffor, what video chip do you have?
[05:35] <matholum> no... i still had no splash and it still takes forever to load
[05:36] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[05:36] <Cpudan80> weird
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: were the resolutions set properly in that file?
[05:36] <matholum> no they weren't
[05:36] <whuffor> nickrud: It's an integrated card. Some sort of intel I believe.
[05:36] <matholum> they are fixed now though
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: Are you sure the setting stuck?
[05:36] <Cpudan80> matholum: you have to edit that file with sudo
[05:36] <phreck> im still trying to figure out what goes wrong when i try to resize a window
[05:37] <matholum> i will check it again... ya, i used sudo
[05:37] <Scunizi> whuffor: you might need the intel 9xx driver.. check synaptic for "INTEL"
[05:37] <Cpudan80> gksudo gedit /etc/usplash.conf
[05:37] <nickrud> whuffor, need to know the exact chip.    lspci | grep -i vga   in a terminal will teill you
[05:37] <whuffor> nickrud: It's intel G31 apparently
[05:37] <nickrud> whuffor, see Scunizi above
[05:38] <Malik_> wats is BERYL?
[05:38] <Malik_> wat in the world is BERYL
[05:38] <whuffor> Scunizi: nickrud: OK. This is what I got: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:38] <matholum> cpudan> it is still the new res
[05:39] <beerfan> Malik_: beryl is some old obsolete software. ignore it
[05:39] <Malik_> but wat does it even do
[05:39] <jdh6403> lol   what is it with beryl tonight
[05:39] <Malik_> cause i heard so much botu it
[05:39] <AzMoo> Hey, Is there a way to set the apt mirror during installation? It seems that http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ is down, and it's screwing up my installations when it times out.
[05:39] <beerfan> Malik_: google is your friend
[05:39] <Malik_> o come on
[05:39] <Mr_Sonoma> !beryl | Malik_
[05:39] <ubotu> Malik_: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> !compiz | Malik_
[05:40] <ubotu> Malik_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:40] <Detedagowa|WoW> hey
[05:40] <Detedagowa|WoW> all
[05:40] <Malik_> do u think a begginer should need it?
[05:40] <Scunizi> agpgart-intel see http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=82g33+on+linux&btnG=Google+Search whuffor
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> not really its just 3d effects
[05:40] <beerfan> Malik_: was "obsolete" unclear?
[05:40] <Mr_Sonoma> nice eye candy but not really useful
[05:41] <Malik_> wat!
[05:41] <Malik_> 3d effects
[05:41] <Malik_> i want those
[05:41] <Malik_> is that the cube thing?
[05:41] <Mr_Sonoma> yes
[05:41] <timfrost> AzMoo: you can usually choose the main server (archive.ubuntu.com)
[05:41] <beerfan> compiz = cube
[05:41] <whuffor> Scunizi: Checking the link...
[05:41] <AzMoo> timfrost: It doesn't give me an option to choose a server
[05:41] <Detedagowa|WoW> anyone know what happened if my updates messed up and now my mount root 453 is b0rked....
[05:41] <Detedagowa|WoW> or somthing like that lol
[05:42] <timfrost> AzMoo: Live CD or alternate?
[05:42] <Detedagowa|WoW> HDD
[05:42] <AzMoo> timfrost: xubuntu alternate
[05:42] <zenrium> why is it under a fair amount of linux distros using gnome i've tried I always seem to get the same issue with windows :P  When I open new apps they have to be moved down to access their title bars because they start too far up the screen - so the bar is off the screen!! whhhyyy...
[05:42] <Beetle121> How true is it that I'm protected from viruses without needing software?
[05:42] <beerfan> zenrium: that's a good question
[05:42] <Detedagowa|WoW> can anyone help me?
[05:43] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: In ubuntu? very true
[05:43] <Scunizi> zenrium: that happens to me only when compiz-fusion is active.. turn it off and tht will go away.
[05:43] <beerfan> Beetle121: most virus' are designed for windows
[05:43] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: Just don't sudo anything without knowing what it is & where it comes from
[05:43] <zenrium> scunizi : thats great.. and yet not so great... because i've had this occur in the past before compiz/beryl/aiglx were even in existance..
[05:43] <crdlb> zenrium: do you have ccsm installed?
[05:43] <Detedagowa|WoW> can somone pm me that can help me with a messed up install
[05:43] <Beetle121> haha I won't run anything in that terminal until I know a LOT more.
[05:43] <Cpudan80> There aren't many *nix viruses -- as the market share for *nix isn't enough to attract that many viruses
[05:44] <crdlb> Scunizi: you fan fix that by enabling the compiz "Place Windows" plugin
[05:44] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: then you're safe pretty much
[05:44] <Scunizi> zenrium: maybe i'm in the minority... maybe not
[05:44] <crdlb> zenrium: oh nm then
[05:44] <zenrium> crdlb : yes I do but this has happened in linux distros to me before compiz came out
[05:44] <Cpudan80> Beetle121: Learn the terminal though, it's your friend :-)
[05:44] <AzMoo> Cpudan80: Not only that, unless you're running in root the only thing it can affect is your profile.
[05:44] <Scunizi> crdlb: thnks
[05:44] <jdh6403> beetle   very true
[05:44] <crdlb> zenrium: well check that Place Windows is checked if you're using compiz
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> do i have to reinstall if my distro update messed up?
[05:44] <Cpudan80> AzMoo: Very true
[05:44] <AzMoo> Detedagowa|WoW: What's the error message?
[05:44] <zenrium> crdlb roger that.. thanks
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> and it borked
[05:44] <Detedagowa|WoW> um
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> failure mount root 453 i think
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> close to that if not exact
[05:45] <timfrost> AzMoo: You can change the mirror once the install has completed, so I suggest that you tell the install to ignore updates
[05:45] <Scunizi> !enter | Detedagowa|WoW
[05:45] <ubotu> Detedagowa|WoW: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:45] <Malik_> hey i jus burned linux do i need to be bootign to install it cause riite now i go to my dvd drive and all i see r folders
[05:45] <Detedagowa|WoW> i wanted it to update i only have a 6.06 disk and i want 7.10
[05:45] <zenrium> crdlb : nice.. thanks - sorted cheers love you long time.. awesome. :)
[05:46] <Scunizi> Malik_: you burned it as data instead of and ISO image
[05:46] <beerfan> Malik_: you need to boot from the cd. It will load up Ubuntu just like it would load from your harddrive.
[05:46] <Malik_> not
[05:46] <Malik_> iam not stupid
[05:46] <Scunizi> Malik_: try booting from it...
[05:46] <Malik_> i burned it as an image
[05:46] <bob__> Detedagowa|WoW: Sounds like a problem that occurs to people that have run automatix or envy (both bad ideas)  You also cannot go directly from 6.06 to 7.10..
[05:46] <Malik_> and i even burned it at alow speed
[05:46] <tuntun> OK, this is a joke. Why must  /  be reformatted even though I have already formatted it as ext3?! Arrghh!!!
[05:46] <Malik_> can u install linux on vista?
[05:46] <Cpudan80> Malik_: No...?
[05:46] <beerfan> Malik_: in a manner of speaking, yes
[05:47] <whuffor> Scunizi: It seems as it's not supported by compiz. Saw this in ubuntuforums about the 82G33/G31 Intel Express Graphics Diver: "The last I heard, the chipset does not work with Compiz/Beryl, and is blacklisted in the /usr/bin/compiz file"
[05:47] <Detedagowa|WoW> i know bob i was going one at a time i went from 6.06 to 6.10 then to 7.04 when the mess up happened
[05:47] <Cpudan80> Malik_: You can install it inside a virtual machine, that's about it
[05:47] <matholum> cpudan> ya, i just retried it and still nothing... and this time i took off quiet splash and added irqpoll....
[05:47] <bob__> tuntun: That is why I have a seperate /home partition...
[05:47] <Scunizi> whuffor: sorry to hear that.
[05:47] <beerfan> Malik_: check out cygwin if you just want to run linux apps in windows
[05:47] <Malik_> o...and it it atucally possible to hav the vitsa or xp look on linux?
[05:47] <beerfan> Malik_: themes
[05:48] <whuffor> Scunizi: nickrud Thanks for the help of tracking down this. It's no biggie really, but I was a bit puzzled by it.
[05:48] <Malik_> so normally ubutntu doesn;t coem with the 3d cube effect u gotta put or beryl
[05:48] <bob__> Detedagowa|WoW: And you avoided the other part of the question... because...?
[05:48] <Detedagowa|WoW> i have a question that idk if its stupid if my root file is messed up can i unzip my iso take that one and place it in the driver or is it more complicated than im making myself beleive
[05:48] <beerfan> Malik_: there is no beryl
[05:48] <Detedagowa|WoW> i didnt measn to aoid other part...didnt see it
[05:48] <Malik_> wat do u mean
[05:48] <Cpudan80> Malik_: My computer cant run Compiz
[05:48] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Ubuntu comes with compiz-fusion, beryl is an old program
[05:49] <beerfan> beryl is abandoned by the people who created it
[05:49] <Cpudan80> So... I wouldn't want it all ramped up as the default
[05:49] <Malik_> o
[05:49] <matholum> T_T why does it take 3 min to boot my comp?!
[05:49] <tuntun> Why does the ubuntu installer insist  /  must be reformatted even though I have already formatted it as ext3?!
[05:49] <Malik_> so copiz which comes with the ubuntu is the 3d effect>
[05:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: compiz-fusion has more and better effects than beryl
[05:49] <beerfan> tuntun: why ask why? just format
[05:49] <bob__> Malik_:  You would just enable ccsm and turn on the cube effect..
[05:49] <bob__> !ccsm
[05:49] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[05:49] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Yes, it will install. If your gfx card supports it you use ccssm
[05:50] <Malik_> alrite u guys help me out wit this later i will tell u my system and al the stuff aobu tit and all
[05:50] <Malik_> brb u guys r good help
[05:50] <Biscuitian_Warhe> In Feisty I could get the volume controls for all my speakers (Front, Rear, Center, Surround, etc.) but in Gutsy I can only control the Front, how can I fix this?
[05:50] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Good luck
[05:50] <Dingbat> Question.  Got a second HD I'd like to have mounted automatically instead of having to manually mount it.
[05:50] <bob__> We try
[05:50] <Dingbat> How do I do it?
[05:50] <tuntun> because any ext2/3 partition that ubuntu makes is unuseable in partionmagic
[05:50] <Malik_> and iam good help to micrsoft for spyiing on u guys..lol
[05:50] <Malik_> j/k
[05:50] <Malik_> fo this i hav to sya j/k
[05:50] <Malik_> jus so u guys donot take it seriously
[05:50] <PurpZeY> It's not funny
[05:50] <matholum> i take it that you guys all prefer compiz.... i haven't ever tried it... i would never do beryl, but what are the differences?
[05:50] <Malik_> ol
[05:51] <Malik_> lol*
[05:51] <PurpZeY> We don't worry about spies
[05:51] <Detedagowa|WoW> if i just reinstall my 6.06 can somone help me do the updates to 6.10?? i can get the rest fromthere
[05:51] <PurpZeY> We are doing nothing wrong
[05:51] <Scunizi> Dingbat: put the mount line in /etc/fstab
[05:51] <beerfan> tuntun: ubuntu has it's own partition magic program called gparted
[05:51] <nickrud> matholum, to the user, no real difference
[05:51] <Malik_> yea but spies can do thing wrong which r bad
[05:51] <bob__> matholum: they combined compiz and beryl...
[05:51] <ushimitsudoki> Biscuitan: The volume control > edit >preferences should allow you to select which sliders appear in the control
[05:51] <PurpZeY> Not likely
[05:51] <Detedagowa|WoW> brb all reinstalling
[05:51] <Malik_> liley if they r micrsoft spies
[05:51] <Skyblast> People that do bad here are banned ;)
[05:51] <stefkoo> hello when i type screen irssi i connect on irc blabla.. and i close terminal so i open again terminal how to i COME on the screen to come on irssi again?
[05:51] <Malik_> alrite g2g
[05:51] <crdlb> stefkoo: screen -r
[05:51] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: The thing is those options aren't there anymore :\
[05:52] <beerfan> Malik_: spies? How can you spy on something that's open and free?
[05:52] <Scunizi> !screen | stefkoo
[05:52] <ubotu> stefkoo: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:52] <bob__> Malik_: PLease avoid the off topic chat.. or use #Ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <matholum> i wanna cry... this is so annoying! T_T
[05:52] <PurpZeY> beerfan: carefully....>: )
[05:52] <tuntun> gparted couldn't hope to create/delete/move files on an unmounted partition
[05:52] <Malik_> alrite bob
[05:52] <DeLe0n> does somebody knows what happened with alsaconf?
[05:52] <beerfan> tuntun: actually, yes it can
[05:52] <n0cturna1_> trying to do a "net ads join -U <user@domain>".. getting the error: Failed to join domain: The connection was refused.. any ideas? kinit gives me a ticket, just can't join..
[05:53] <stefkoo> crdlb: don't works screen -r
[05:53] <portokaosol> hey folks, is there a "safe mode" that I can use in Ubuntu?
[05:53] <stefkoo> crdlb: i'm running a bitchx like ( i type "screen BitchX" )
[05:53] <portokaosol> (or Xubuntu to be exact)
[05:53] <beerfan> if partition magic can't work on ext3 partitions formatted by linux, then I suggest that it is the broken software
[05:53] <Scunizi> portokaosol: for what purpose?
[05:53] <crdlb> stefkoo: you really ought to use irssi :) but what exactly doesn't work about screen -r?
[05:53] <tuntun> gparted has never made apparent (in my usage) any ability to create/delete/move files on an unmounted partition
[05:54] <bob__> partition magic 7 cant but 8 can
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: i need to paste you
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: wait
[05:54] <crdlb> stefkoo: use a pastebin
[05:54] <nickrud> beerfan, if partition magic can't work on ext3, then ext3 shouldn't be used
[05:54] <portokaosol> Scunizi: it seems that my graphics card has fried, and when I boot everything starts normally but the screen is garbled
[05:54] <stefkoo> sure
[05:54] <beerfan> nickrud: because, without PM the partition is useless?
[05:54] <bob__> tuntun: What are you trying to do.. Gparted can create and ove when it resizes a partition.. but it is not a file manager.
[05:54] <stefkoo> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50469/
[05:54] <stefkoo> check there
[05:55] <Dingbat> God I love ubuntu.  Been using it for over a year as my primary workstation.
[05:55] <nickrud> beerfan, no, partition magic is the definitive partitioner ;p
[05:55] <crdlb> stefkoo: you have a lot of dead screens, run 'screen -wipe'
[05:55] <Skyblast> Osm
[05:55] <Scunizi> portokaosol: hopefully it's just a messed up driver.  when you boot grub should show you a couple of kernel lines. One is rescue which is text based.. that's probaby what you're looking for.
[05:55] <Skyblast> Isn't partition magic long abandoned and no longer supported?
[05:55] <tuntun> partitionmagic works fine with ext2/3, but any ext2/3 partition ubuntu installer makes is unusable with it
[05:55] <stefkoo> crdlb: ok i type it and what now ?
[05:56] <corinth> Happy New Year!
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: then you need to pick one of the "detached" screens
[05:56] <corinth> Now, on to business :-P
[05:56] <beerfan> nickrud: sorry, but PM is just another implementation of a partition. The creators do not write the specs for the partition types they implement.
[05:56] <stefkoo> crdlb: tell me command
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: run screen -r followed by the PID of the one you want to attach to
[05:56] <corinth> I have a friend that just bought a new sound card. How can he get Ubuntu to recognize/use it?
[05:56] <nickrud> beerfan, really bad deadpan humor. I'm known for it
[05:56] <bob__> :)
[05:56] <crdlb> stefkoo: so 'screen -r 12992' will attach to the first one
[05:57] <Scunizi> corinth: plug it in and try it.. it might just work
[05:57] <jdh6403> ok   off to bed i go.....need sleep...cya all later
[05:57] <beerfan> nickrud: if that was all a joke then just ignore me ;-)
[05:57] <stefkoo> aha
[05:57] <ushimitsudoki> biscuitain: did you check from the shell as well? Like from amixer or alsamixer? are you missing sliders/controls there as well?
[05:57] <tuntun> gparted isn't a file manager but partitionmagic is, until you try to access any ext2/3 partitions that ubntu installer makes!!!
[05:57] <stefkoo> oki
[05:57] <stefkoo> thx ! :* :D
[05:57] <bob__> nickrud:  Darn... forgot I am building a new system for someone else...   Jack here...  Arghhh
[05:57] <corinth> Scunizi: If it worked out of the box, I wouldn't be here ;-)
[05:57] <nickrud> bob__, hah. Now all I need is the last :)
[05:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: there's nothing there, i think it's alsa related as I use arch linux as well and the issue shows up there, i'm not sure what's going down wrong
[05:58] <bob__> Sparrrrrrrrrow
[05:58] <Scunizi> tuntun: are you trying partition magic from the widows side?  if so have you loaded the ext2/3 driver?
[05:58] <Scunizi> *for windows
[05:58] <nickrud> bob__, no, got that part, I've now got the Rooobeert part :)
[05:58] <beerfan> tuntun: I suspect the ubuntu installer requires the / partition to be formatted just to be safe. I don't know of a workaround but there is probably one. Or you could try upgrading your PM.
[05:58] <portokaosol> Scunizi: Xubuntu launched some sort of a safe mode, but I can't go back to it for some reason. I can't use the terminal since I am new, and wouldn't know what to do with it... I only opened the screensavers setting, and I picked one random screensaver when the machine froze. After that my BIOS showed that it also crashed, and loaded the defaults....
[05:58] <l3oddah> i finally got my vpn working and my routing tables correct and can view my works network now, however I am adding a script to ip-up.d to auto add the routes and it isn't running when the vpn connects, the script is owned by root and permissions set to 755
[05:58] <corinth> What utility do I use in Ubuntu to configure a sound card?
[05:59] <beerfan> tuntun: if you're running PM from within windows that's probably your problem
[06:00] <ushimitsudoki> Biscuitian: Sorry then :(
[06:00] <beerfan> corinth: most audio chipsets are automatically detected and the driver loaded. If the audio driver isn't loaded you'll have to google for that audio and find out why
[06:00] <Cpudan80> Anyone know how I can change the default "open with" to VLC for video files in firefox?
[06:00] <tuntun> partitionmagic works fine (in windows of course) with any ext2/3 partition except with the ones that ubuntu installer creates, thats why there is no point in installing it if i cant access the files from windows.
[06:00] <Scunizi> portokaosol: if you can get to the messed up screen try ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a terminal .. then ask here for someone to walk you through command line reconfiguration of the xorg file.  sorry i can't do thatt.
[06:00] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: when i do aplay -L, it outputs that a 5.1 and 7.1 mode are available, where's the asoundrc file at or the config in which i can force it to choose these modes?
[06:00] <beerfan> tuntun: I suggest you install the ext2 driver for windows instead of using PM
[06:00] <portokaosol> is there a lot to do Scunizi ?
[06:01] <Scunizi> portokaosol: depends.. but probably not much if it's just reconfiguring the video driver.. there's a one line commad
[06:01] <beerfan> tuntun: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:01] <tuntun> beerfan: partitionmagic works with EVERYTHING *except* ubuntu installer ext partitions
[06:01] <bob__> tuntun: You are doing something wrong.. I just booted my windows install, and accessed my ext3 that were created by ubuntu
[06:01] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:02] <bob__> tuntun: I used PM8 to do it
[06:02] <portokaosol> Scunizi: so do you know what would be the appropriate question to ask? What command am I looking for?
[06:02] <Scunizi> portokaosol: how to reconfigure xorg
[06:02] <Scunizi> to a basic state
[06:02] <bob__> tuntun: I do have the ext3 driver installed in that copy of XP
[06:03] <tuntun> bob_: well ubuntu installer started messing up the ext partitions some time after dapper, so what version are you using?
[06:03] <portokaosol> okay. Can anyone help me to reconfigure Xorg?
[06:03] <bob__> ON that box I have Feisty
[06:03] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:03] <makers_mark> i installed kde in ubuntu but then decided to go back to gnome.the problem is that the os boot screen says kubuntu and it's not the original ubuntu one.how can i set it back?
[06:04] <bob__> tuntun: LEt me double check
[06:04] <soldats> portokaosol, what part of xorg
[06:04] <Kevin`> what does an "oem install" of ubuntu do?
[06:04] <Scunizi> soldats: hes looking for a generic reconfigure from the terminal to a basic state.
[06:04] <portokaosol> Scunizi: do you know what part of xorg?
[06:04] <portokaosol> oh, cool!
[06:05] <ushimitsudoki> biscuitian: I think either ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.config are suitable, but I am not sure about that
[06:05] <timfrost> Kevin`: OEM nstall is used by PC makers to do a custom install for their hardware
[06:05] <Scunizi> !xorg
[06:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:05] <Kevin`> what is the difference from a normal install, though
[06:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ushimitsudoki: kk thanks :D
[06:05] <extracted> has any one had any luck with the new ATI drivers from AMD ?
[06:05] <soldats> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <soldats> set all to default
[06:06] <beerfan> extracted: try the forums if you don't find your answer here
[06:06] <makers_mark> anyone?
[06:06] <extracted> I am trying to find a good driver for my ati card that will actually make it preform correctly.
[06:06] <nickrud> extracted, yes, I used http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[06:06] <tuntun> and ubuntu installer never uses drive labels, they are just left blank, so agrivating...
[06:06] <Scunizi> portokaosol: see soldats post above for  the command  line to reconfigure.
[06:06] <portokaosol> I see it
[06:06] <portokaosol> cool!
[06:06] <pdaoust> hello, folks. People say CD extraction is slow in Ubuntu -- is 2x average, or is that unusually slow?
[06:06] <beerfan> tuntun: ubuntu uses UUIDs instead of labels
[06:06] <extracted> nickrud, every time i go though the install proccess it errors out saying that the make command can not be found,  something with the script that came with it.
[06:07] <Kevin`> pdaoust it was faster when I tried it. I don't see any reason why it would be slower then something else
[06:07] <extracted> its just trying to make a temp directory but can not find the command
[06:07] <beerfan> pdaoust: cd extraction? you mean ripping songs or what?
[06:07] <Scunizi> beerfan: tuntun ubuntu can use both.. they both hve their place and issues.
[06:07] <soldats> portokaosol, be careful with it, you dont want to mess something up, be cautious and use defaults when necessary
[06:07] <nickrud> extracted, have you tried method 2 on that howto?
[06:07] <tuntun> beerfan: since edgy?
[06:07] <beerfan> tuntun: that sounds about right
[06:07] <pdaoust> Kevin`: yeah, I don't see why it would eithher; I was just reading forum/newsgroup postings in whihch people complained about CD extracting speed
[06:08] <hypercube> I hate to barge in, but I have a question. Do I just ask for help right here or is there a bot to whom I need to send my question to? I have never been on this channel before, so sorry if this sounds kinda stupid...
[06:08] <nickrud> extracted, I've used that one for the last several ati releases, always worked. And the latest ati has aiglx and suspend working
[06:08] <bob__> tuntun: Sorry, I had to reboot that box and hit the fsck on a large drive.. but yet.. it is Feisty
[06:08] <Scunizi> hypercube: ask away
[06:08] <PurpZeY> hybercube: just ask
[06:08] <interceptor> !ru
[06:08] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:08] <extracted> This will install the driver that is currently in the repositories. It may be older than the current version from AMD.
[06:08] <pdaoust> beerfan: yep, ripping. I've tried both Rhythmbox and Sound-Juicer (without paranoia) and it's anywhere between 0.9x and 5x. Pretty horrible compared to thhe 10x-20x ripping speeds I'd get (even with a bit of paranoia) on Windows.
[06:09] <nickrud> extracted, that's method 1
[06:09] <pdaoust> I think it might be a hardware issue...?!
[06:09] <bob__> pdaoust: Have you tried Grip
[06:09] <beerfan> pdaoust: I just ripped some cds this evening with sound juicer. felt plenty fast to me but I didn't see anything showing a spped
[06:09] <tuntun> bob_: well edgy started using UUIDs, and that just means there is a blank, unlabelled partition in partitionmagic
[06:09] <pdaoust> bob__: just downloading it now to see if it's a problem with Sound-Juicer
[06:09] <extracted> ill try it again,
[06:10] <pdaoust> beerfan: it's in the status bar.
[06:10] <bob__> tut
[06:10] <nickrud> tuntun, I'm just kinda jumping in here, but you can use e2label to give it a label
[06:10] <nalpha> guys, anyone using ubuntu 7.10 ? I installed Printer HP Laserjet 1300  and it's sometimes go to offline or "not enabled" status ini printer's config. Anyone know the problems? It's occur in my server (printer sharing) and the client. All using ubuntu 7.10
[06:10] <pdaoust> bob__: I wouldn't mind using Grip myself, but I'm setting up a computer for my dad, and naturally everything has to be as simple as possible. Hence, I'm hoping I can get Rhythmbox to rip CDs at a respectable speed.
[06:10] <bob__> tuntun: Sorry...  Also note that changing any partition on that drive WILL change all uuid's for all partitions on that drive
[06:11] <beerfan> grip works, but has a horrible UI and is overly complicated.
[06:11] <portokaosol> soldats: I finished reconfiguring, now what? shall I enter reboot?
[06:11] <detedagowa> i need a little help with an install it says i have  fat32 ntfs and unalocated partition i click to use the unalocated and it doesnt give me the chance to put "/" and swap in unalocated
[06:11] <nickrud> grip is old school, written for devs by devs and it shows
[06:11] <corinth> There's no way to configure a sound card manually in gnome?
[06:12] <bob__> beerfan: Use what works for you...
[06:12] <beerfan> exactly right
[06:12] <tuntun> I just won't be able to use my rock-solid file manager with ubuntu because it does something different with the ext partitions,
[06:12] <beerfan> tuntun: life is not always fair
[06:13] <pdaoust> detedagowa: I believe you have to create a partition in that unallocated space first, which will allow you to choose the partition type (I'd go ext3) and set the mount point to '/'
[06:13] <AzMoo> What does ubuntu do differently with ext partitions?
[06:13] <bob__> AzMoo: Nothing
[06:13] <tuntun> why on earth can't it just use the bloody ext3 paritition I just made for it!
[06:13] <pdaoust> detedagowa: it may be as simple as right-clicking on the unallocated space and choosing a menu entry, but I can't recall
[06:13] <hypercube> okay, thx.  I am running gutsy with the latest proprietary nvidia driver (ver. 169.07) and top says that Xorg is taking up 895m of virtual memory and around 100m of resident memory. Is this because it's caching a lot of stuff and will eventually swap it out when I need the memory, or does this look like a memory leak in nvidia's driver?
[06:13] <AzMoo> bob__: That's what I thought. What the hell is tuntun talking about?
[06:13] <soldats> portokaosol, yes restart X
[06:14] <portokaosol> just type "restart x" ?
[06:14] <luis_> .
[06:14] <bob__> AzMoo: None of us know and he seems to be on a rant...  I just checked and cannot duplicate what he is saying on my dual boot box
[06:14] <Scunizi> portokaosol: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:14] <PurpZeY> hybercube: That one is a little skewed from what I deal with....I'd try to break down that question so it's a little more simple, also, if no one here knows (and they should) ask in #ubuntu-effects
[06:14] <portokaosol> Scunizi: nothing is going on
[06:14] <detedagowa> ok im installing now once i get on 6.06 can somone help me update to 6.10 because beyond 6.10 is all automated updating
[06:15] <Flannel> detedagowa: sure.  Server or desktop or what?
[06:15] <AzMoo> bob__: I see. *sigh*
[06:15] <detedagowa> desktop
[06:15] <Scunizi> portokaosol: sudo reboot now
[06:15] <hypercube> And yes,  restarting x does not help.
[06:15] <portokaosol> that worked!
[06:15] <PurpZeY> hypercube: Did you see my suggestion?
[06:15] <soldats> sudo shutdown -r now
[06:15] <detedagowa> somone had me put in all these things in a system file and i searched for updates and it popped right up
[06:15] <beerfan> detedagowa: update to 6.10 or 7.10? 6.04 is pretty old
[06:15] <Flannel> detedagowa: alright.  alt-f2 then `gksu "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"` which will bring up that file with the proper permissions.
[06:16] <portokaosol> now hopefully, everything should be fine
[06:16] <methods> all my windows keep opening up top left of the screen behind my top panel!
[06:16] <nickrud> whatever happend to just plain old   reboot   and    halt   , everyone is using the long typed shutdown -r now stuff
[06:16] <meoblast001> hello.. i use a ubuntu pc and a fedora server.... my server has no soundcard..... im looking for a source client for icecast that i can install on my fedora server that would allow me to use playlist files made on my ubuntu pc..... does anyone know of a program that can do that (keeping in mind the lack of a sound card)?
[06:16] <bob__> This dual boot box is ready to roll. Updates finally done...   back in a sec...
[06:16] <detedagowa> beerfan and flannel its almost done installing once i get on the real os ill get your guyses help ok?
[06:16] <beerfan> methods: enable the window placement compiz plugin
[06:17] <hypercube> Thanks, PurpZeY
[06:17] <daquino[laptop]> what did you say ?
[06:17] <detedagowa> ill be back in a bit ill tell yo when the install is done then ill log onto it
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah   I feel like myself again....
[06:17] <daquino[laptop]> im methods, daquino, chino
[06:18] <Flannel> detedagowa: Actually, Dapper has automated upgrades as well.  So you'll have automated the whole way.  Just follow the proper subpages : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:18] <methods> say again?
[06:18] <tuntun> well bob_ the problem is pretty simple: i make an ext3 paritition with parititionmagic, everything works fine, ubuntu installer refuses to use it and insists on reformatting it, unformunately it creates an ext paritition that is unusable in partitionmagic even though every ext3 paritition made with any other distro works fine including ubuntu up until edgy.
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> It isnt jack either  :)
[06:18] <nickrud> lol
[06:19] <tuntun> The file system on /dev/sda6 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[06:19] <tuntun> ^^qoute from ubuntu installer
[06:19] <scguy318> tuntun: PartMagic's ext3 support is VERY outdated
[06:19] <scguy318> tuntun: that thing can't handle anything modern
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: YEs, that is true... it Must format / for any install...
[06:19] <nickrud> tuntun, you say you created the partition in partition magic, but did you write the filesystem to it?
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: It does NOT create or recreate the partition
[06:20] <portokaosol> Scunizi and soldats: thanks a lot, that fixed the problem!
[06:20] <extracted> Installing this driver, will it conflict with Compiz ?
[06:20] <Scunizi> portokaosol: glad to hear it.. :)
[06:20] <nickrud> extracted, no, it works well, doesn't need xserver-xgl
[06:20] <tuntun> paritition magic has work with every ext paritition i have thrown at it
[06:21] <Flannel> tuntun: What youre saying is partition magic doesn't know how to work with UUIDs
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: Your quote has nothing to do with the partition not working or being ext3
[06:21] <beerfan> tuntun: just install the windows ext2 driver and stop complaining
[06:21] <Scunizi> Flannel: can he use uuid and labels for a drive at teh same time?
[06:22] <nickrud> yes, they are separate things, uuid's and labels
[06:22] <Scunizi> can't a drive with a uuid also have a label?
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi: yes
[06:22] <nickrud> I hope so, I mount via labels
[06:22] <tuntun> Jack_Sparrow: I posted it to illustrate the fact that ubuntu installer refuses to install to a preformatted ext3 paritition
[06:23] <Scunizi> that's maybe another approach for tuntun
[06:23] <daquino[laptop]> now i cant move any windows...
[06:24] <nickrud> tuntun, and that's not true, I've helped people install without formatting with the alternate
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: There are ways around that..  In fact I found one in the forums today.. where you go to partitioning then back out ...  it is possible, but what is your problem formatting /reformatting a freshly made partition.
[06:24] <tuntun> beerfan: well..I would love if it didn't routenly delete random files and lock up the system.
[06:25] <beerfan> tuntun: sounds like you have more issues than just partition magic then
[06:25] <MoonlightCat> !join dc락갤
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about join dc락갤 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: If what didnt delete random files...
[06:25] <Kevin`> I no longer trust partition magic, free stuff works ok now anyway
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: IF you mean the now publicly acknowledged windows home server problem.. we cant do much about that.
[06:26] <tuntun> beerfan: well no, ext2 driver has the problem, so I started using partitionmagic and it has handled everything, up until ubuntu installers exr3
[06:26] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow: he's referring to http://www.fs-driver.org/, or at least that's what I recommended he use instead
[06:27] <matholum> (dunno who is still there from before, but i fixed the boot!!!!!!!! sugoi da yo!!!)
[06:27] <tuntun> Jack_Sparrow: ext drivers for win
[06:27] <beerfan> tuntun: I use that driver and I have no issues that you describe.
[06:27] <Scunizi> matholum: how
[06:27] <NewUbuntuFan> .
[06:27] <Shane|BGSU> hey, i have a question!
[06:27] <Shane|BGSU> please?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> !ask
[06:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:27] <nickrud> !ask | Shane|BGSU
[06:27] <ubotu> Shane|BGSU: please see above
[06:28] <MasterShrek> ooh, i havent been here in a few days, new factoids eh?
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tuntun: If they are a problem. dont use them..  Setup a fat32 and deal with it or stop using windows.. NOT our problem
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> is there an alternative to soulseek available for ubuntu?
[06:28] <nickrud> !brokenusplash
[06:28] <ubotu> Supported screen resolutions are sometimes detected incorrectly, causing the splash screen to not appear and slowing down boot. Edit /etc/usplash.conf and change "xres" and "yres" to a resolution that your graphics system certainly supports, then run « sudo update-usplash-theme usplash-theme-ubuntu »
[06:28] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Frostwire
[06:28] <matholum> well... i removed the line after the options line that just said quiet and changed the file not just edit the boot line on boot
[06:28] <tuntun> beerfan: life is not always fair
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> sudo apt-get frostwire?
[06:28] <Shane|BGSU> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[06:28] <beerfan> tuntun: quite right
[06:28] <scguy318> Shane|BGGSU: sudo apt-get install frostwire yep
[06:28] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: I don't *think* it's in the repos.
[06:29] <Shane|BGSU> i'm new to the command line, is that right?
[06:29] <PurpZeY> Apparently, I am wrong
[06:29] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: oh lemme check
[06:29] <PurpZeY> !frostwire
[06:29] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:29] <nickrud> !frostwire
[06:29] <matholum> i am so happy ^_^
[06:29] <Scunizi> matholum: cool.. quiet has to do wth the splach screen.. glad it's working  now.
[06:29] <deostroll> ifconfig eth0 showing wrong information...how should I fix it?
[06:29] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Yup. sudo apt-get install
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all...
[06:29] <MasterShrek> frostwire isnt like soulseek
[06:29] <tuntun> beerfan: so we must look for what works.
[06:29] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: sudo apt-get install is appropriate, but the package doesn't exist in the repos
[06:29] <matholum> i didn't know there was another spot for quiet
[06:29] <PurpZeY> scguy318: You sure?
[06:30] <beerfan> tuntun: if you don't like any of the solutions provided, perhaps you're asking in the wrong place
[06:30] <Shane|BGSU> MasterShrek, what is it like?
[06:30] <scguy318> PurpZeY: well, didnt turn up when I did apt-cache search
[06:30] <Shane|BGSU> i'm just looking for something to get full albums on.
[06:30]  * nickrud just nearly had a heart attack, forgot he had rootpw in /etc/sudoers
[06:30] <Kevin`> tuntun I personally do not see a need to write to a linux native partition from windows
[06:30] <Kevin`> tuntun there's always been some better method for me to do what I need
[06:30] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: the link from the factoid should suffice
[06:30] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Yeah, it's not in the repos, you have to compile it
[06:30] <scguy318> PurpZeY: there are debs for it actually
[06:30] <deostroll> can anyone help me with using ifconfig?
[06:31] <PurpZeY> scguy318: I don't believe in debs
[06:31] <tuntun> beerfan: lol, we don't even know what the problem is, so no solutions have been forthcoming.
[06:31] <scguy318> PurpZeY: using a different distro I suppose?
[06:31] <PurpZeY> scguy318: I think we can all learn to do sudo make install ./configure...not rocket science and helpful to learn
[06:31]  * nickrud hexes PurpZeY 
[06:31] <matholum> anyone know where i can find a different logon screen?
[06:31] <PurpZeY> nickrud: You don't believe in compiling from source?
[06:31] <PurpZeY> !splash | matholum
[06:31] <ubotu> matholum: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:32] <scguy318> PurpZeY: dependency hell :P
[06:32] <yurimxpxman> are there any good pinball games for the tty?
[06:32] <matholum> cool... thanks
[06:32] <PurpZeY> scguy318: But, this is the way people learn
[06:32] <beerfan> tuntun: have you tried asking for support for the software that you "paid" for, or do you expect more from the software you got for free?
[06:32] <scguy318> PurpZeY: about?
[06:32] <nickrud> PurpZeY, see scguy318 . I've done plenty of it, but prefer well built debs. The reason I'm here, actually
[06:32] <PurpZeY> scguy318: About *nix.
[06:33] <PurpZeY> scguy318: If I never compiled, I'd have never learned about dependencies and all of that type stuff
[06:33] <PurpZeY> scguy318: Maybe one day we will be beyond that, but at this point I see linux as not only an O/S but a tool to learn
[06:33] <scguy318> PurpZeY: ok, cool I guess
[06:33] <tuntun> Kevin`: simple example (of reading): just a few days ago an update crapped out ubuntu (dapper, it was totally hosed, if I didn't have partition magic, everything would have been destroyed
[06:33] <nickrud> PurpZeY, you have a point there. But if they want to learn that part, they should toy with linux from scratch. They'll learn much more much faster than blindly ./configure make make install on random software
[06:34] <Kevin`> tuntun why would partition magic help at all with that
[06:34] <PurpZeY> nickrud: I can buy that....I just learned by getting source and following readmes, and when I hit a dependcy issue I download it...and if I got caught I googled...or forumed...etc...etc...You get the idea, but i see your point
[06:34] <tuntun> Kevin`: to rip the data out of the hosed ubuntu install
[06:35] <Kevin`> tuntun why would I need a payware progrm to do that instead of a normal livecd?
[06:35] <matholum> know where i can download logon screens though?
[06:35] <detedagowa> brb all
[06:35] <detedagowa> install done
[06:35] <scguy318> matholum: gnome-look.org (not sure if thats correct)
[06:35] <PurpZeY> gnome-look.org that's it
[06:36] <scguy318> matholum: would have hated to drag you to a cybersquatter site or some pr0n popups
[06:36] <matholum> alright... thanks
[06:36] <PurpZeY> might be gnome-looks, but I think it bounces you
[06:37] <nickrud> art.gnome.org , has less stuff, but better quality overall
[06:37] <Slart> How can I customize a theme in gutsy/compiz? specifically I want to make my window borders smaller
[06:37] <PurpZeY> There is plenty of stuff out there. . .
[06:37] <PurpZeY> Slart: You'd have to make an emerald them
[06:38] <Shane|BGSU> when's hardy coming out?
[06:38] <Scunizi> april
[06:38] <beerfan> Slart: it depends on what type of theme, but look in ~/.themes if it's a metacity theme
[06:38] <PurpZeY> That when feisty support ends?
[06:38] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: April '08
[06:38] <scguy318> PurpZeY: no, don't think so
[06:38] <tuntun> beerfan: "or do you expect more from the software you got for free?" unfortunately your making assumptions and getting a bit snotty. I'm one of the people who gives thing back to the wider linux projects with my experience and experiences.
[06:38] <Scunizi> no
[06:38] <Shane|BGSU> is it an LTS?
[06:38] <beerfan> Slart: but editing metacity themes is not for the faint of heart
[06:38] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: Hardy is an LTS, yes
[06:38] <nickrud> Slart, if you're using emerald, go to the emerald theme manager and go to edit themes. (first thing I did, shrink the titlebar)
[06:38] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: Yes.
[06:38] <Slart> PurpZeY: emerald theme.. I remember messing with that when I used beryl..perhaps the same editor is still around
[06:38] <crdlb> PurpZeY: no, when Edgy's support ends
[06:38] <newbiee> programme for mounting iso image
[06:38] <Scunizi> lts? yes
[06:38] <PurpZeY> Slart: If you are running compiz, most likely it is emerald
[06:39] <scguy318> newbiee: ordinary mount command or fuseiso
[06:39] <Ayabara> how do I remove obsolete grub entries? should I uninstall kernel versions or edit some grub entry list?
[06:39] <nickrud> Slart, yes it's very similar
[06:39] <Slart> ok, thanks everyone.. I'll go hunt for emerald tools
[06:39] <scguy318> Ayabara: might as well uninstall the older kernels if you're not going to use them
[06:39] <scguy318> Slart: installing emerald should give you the Emerald Theme Manager
[06:39] <nickrud> Ayabara, remove the older kernels, but keep at least one spare. Just In Case
[06:39] <Ayabara> nickrud, scguy318, makes sense. how can I get a list of the ones on my system?
[06:40] <Shane|BGSU> i don't understand compiling
[06:40] <Shane|BGSU> how do i know what to do?
[06:40] <scguy318> Shane|BGSU: see !make and the tarballs's INSTALL/README files
[06:40] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: You can compile, or use the deb as they suggested, if you want to compile, open the readme and follow directions
[06:40] <Shane|BGSU> !make
[06:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[06:40] <nickrud> Ayabara, lin synaptic, hit the sections button (I think). Old kernels show up in the local or obsolete section
[06:41] <PurpZeY> Shane|BGSU: You might end up needing other packages, it will say "missing X dependency" then you have to download that package from the repo before proceeding
[06:41] <newbiee> programme for mounting iso image???
[06:41] <scguy318> newbiee: what I wrote
[06:41] <scguy318> newbiee: ordinary mount command or fuseiso
[06:41] <nickrud> Ayabara, sorry, it's the status button
[06:41] <PurpZeY> !iso | newbiee
[06:41] <ubotu> newbiee: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:41] <tuntun> beerfan: "or do you expect more from the software you got for free?" unfortunately your making assumptions and getting a bit snotty. I'm one of the people who gives things back to the ubuntu (and other) projects
[06:41] <scguy318> newbiee: mount -t iso9660 isoimage.iso /mnt/point -o loop
[06:41] <beerfan> newbiee: also look at gmount-iso
[06:42] <Ayabara> nickrud, got it. thanks
[06:42] <newbiee> scguy318: hey thanks now i saw.
[06:42] <minus198> Does anyone else have the problem with Firefox crashing all the time.. It often happen when I watch a flashthingy and it just locks up.
[06:42] <phreck> Hey, anyone been experiencing system slowdowns after trying to resize a window in compiz?
[06:42] <puff> My thinkpad's eraser-pointer thingie has stopped working, but the touch pad still works.  The mouse buttons under the spacebar aren't working, but the buttons at the bottom of the touchpad work.
[06:43] <crdlb> phreck: use one of the alternate resize modes
[06:43] <PurpZeY> minus198: I've noticed on my desktop when playing movies on youtube, if I don't pause before browsing elsewhere it will freeze, otherwise no.
[06:43] <nickrud> minus198, welcome to flash ;(
[06:43] <puff> Anything else I can before I reboot the sstem?
[06:43] <phreck> crdlb: what do you mean
[06:43] <phreck> crdlb: is there no fix for whatever is wrong?
[06:43] <beerfan> tuntun: install the windows ext2 driver (which works for me) or upgrade your partition magic (which works for Bob_). If you don't like those solutions, then call on the partition magic support.
[06:43] <crdlb> phreck: it defaults to outline resize, did you turn that off?
[06:43] <PurpZeY> puff: It just stopped working so you are going to reboot or they stopped totally?
[06:43] <minus198> nickrud, It doesn't happen in Windows... so..
[06:43] <phreck> no
[06:43] <phreck> i didnt
[06:44] <crdlb> so you still see a blue outline when you resize?
[06:44] <phreck> is this all in CSSM?
[06:44] <phreck> yes i do
[06:44] <detedagowa> hey all
[06:44] <scguy318> hello
[06:44] <crdlb> phreck: yes it is all in CCSM, but if you're still using that mode, I don't know what the problem is :/
[06:44] <beerfan> phreck: you can change that in the "resize" plugin options
[06:44] <detedagowa> i need help with the updating from 6.06 to 6.10 thing
[06:44] <nickrud> I do like that blue resize, really tasteful
[06:45] <beerfan> it just uses less resources
[06:45] <PurpZeY> nickrud: I love that there are so many options...It's great.
[06:45] <detedagowa> beerfan
[06:46] <detedagowa> can somone help me update from 6.06 to 6.10 because all updating after 6.10 is automated
[06:46] <PurpZeY> nickrud: Oh....I played with that, that's nice.
[06:46] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: I am sorry, I don't know how. I can't imagine there aren't guides in the forums
[06:46] <scguy318> detedagowa: have you seen !upgrade?
[06:47] <detedagowa> nope
[06:47] <detedagowa> !upgrade
[06:47] <scguy318> detedagowa: if you're trying to get -> Gutsy, a clean installer is better
[06:47] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:47] <nimbus_bk> noi tieng viet di
[06:47] <PurpZeY> scguy318: My recollection is that he is trying to avoid that
[06:47] <mrdigital> how do i reconfigure the xserver
[06:47] <scguy318> nimbus_bk: in #ubuntu-vi (if that exists :P)
[06:47] <nickrud> detedagowa, I'd agree with scguy318 on the reinstall rather than upgrade if you can
[06:47] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: dpkg reconfigure I believe.
[06:47] <soldats> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:48] <detedagowa> the problem is is that i cannot make another ubuntu disk and inchange that means i have to upgrade step by step
[06:48]  * AutoMatriX is greeting everybody, good morning, gentle people 
[06:48] <soldats> hallo
[06:48] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: Can't you do the network install direct to Gutsy? Or is that not possible
[06:48] <mrdigital> soldats: xserver.org not installed
[06:48] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: You typoed the command
[06:48] <scguy318> mrdigital: do you mean xserver-xorg?
[06:48] <mrdigital> yeah
[06:49] <mrdigital> not installed
[06:49] <nimbus_bk> chan thia
[06:49] <AutoMatriX> can someone tell me which SIMPLE program to use to copy and paste a piece of a jpg ? The Gimp seems nice but is heavy artillery
[06:49] <PurpZeY> !th
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about th - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <PurpZeY> !thai
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thai - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <detedagowa> idk i havnt really looked up on that but i dont thinm even networking install would go from 6.06 direct to gutsy...
[06:49] <tuntun> nickrud,Jack_Sparrow: "I've helped people install without formatting with the alternate" "In fact I found one in the forums today.. where you go to partitioning then back out" Have you got a link to the aforementione kludge?
[06:49] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: I think the suggested route is to do a fresh install
[06:50] <detedagowa> somone helped me latnight i dont remember who it was but they helped me get 6.10
[06:50] <scguy318> PurpZeY: apparently no Vietnamese channel either, heh
[06:50] <phreck> ok
[06:50] <nickrud> tuntun, if I remember correctly, when I assign "   /    " to a partition, I simply checked (or unchecked) format partition
[06:50] <phreck> so i turned off the resize plugin
[06:50] <phreck> Now i dont have the issue (because i cant resize anything)
[06:51] <phreck> whats an alternative method
[06:51] <PurpZeY> Maximize all windows?
[06:51] <nickrud> tuntun, using all manual partitioning, no guided or anything
[06:51] <detedagowa> what is the system file that has all of the paths to the updates
[06:51] <PurpZeY> !update | detedagowa
[06:51] <ubotu> detedagowa: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:51] <PurpZeY> That is all I know
[06:51] <Cromag> detedagowa: sources.list
[06:52] <tuntun> nickrud: the message I posted was the error message from not selecting "format", that was in manual mode
[06:53] <nickrud> tuntun, then you created the partition initally, but didn't write an ext3 file system to the partition. I've done this on preexisting partitions where people needed to save stuff from their home but didn't have a backup medium
[06:53] <detedagowa> i forgot the sudo command for the upgrade sudo apt-get xupgrade maybe?
[06:54] <scguy318> detedagowa: dist-upgrade maybe
[06:54] <detedagowa> yea thats it
[06:54] <PurpZeY> Make sure you update first.
[06:54] <tuntun> nickrud: well on the ext3 that pm created there was the characteristic "lost+found" directory
[06:54] <detedagowa> update my current distro?
[06:55] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: Update sources
[06:55] <jf> How could it come that when I start my new laptop without a powercord, it starts to beep and flash all lights untill I reboot it?
[06:55] <nickrud> tuntun, that would be characteristic, all right. Definitive, even
[06:55] <puff> PurpZeY: I would rather not reboot, but I'm guessing that's what people suggest to do to fix it ;-)\
[06:55] <PurpZeY> puff: I'm not sure precisely the issue.
[06:55] <PurpZeY> jf: If your battery is dead.
[06:55] <jf> It starts at ubuntu splash-screen.
[06:55] <jf> Battery runs for 4 hours.
[06:56] <puff> PurpZeY: This was about my thinkpad eraser-pointer and mouse-buttons not working.
[06:56] <PurpZeY> jf: So it works perfectly, it just beeps?
[06:56] <tuntun> nickrud: welcome back to square one with me! :P
[06:56] <jf> Yes.
[06:56] <detedagowa> can i just keep sudo apt-get distro-upgrade altheway until 7.10?
[06:56] <gami293> Question -> does anybody when you have a dual screen setup, how to set the second display as the primary monitor in ubuntu?  (i know in M$windows, you can enable a primary monitor and the start menu & taskbar goes to the primary monitor that is defined)?  anybody?
[06:56] <detedagowa> like one then the next...
[06:56] <PurpZeY> puff: No, i understand that, but, did it just start, have you tried a reboot, is there a reason a reboot is no good?
[06:56] <LuPh_iMoEt_bGtZZ> palembang
[06:56] <nickrud> tuntun, yes, we'd all have probably not gone round and round if that had been established early.
[06:57] <puff> Yeah, it started earlier tonight. I tried suspending and resuming, that didn't fix it.
[06:57] <jf> purpzey: When in public I had to boot it, quickly unplug the battery and back in again, then it boots ok the next time.
[06:57] <nickrud> tuntun, not meant to be critical, that last line. No one thought to ask, either
[06:57] <detedagowa> brb all
[06:57] <PurpZeY> jf: Sounds like your mobo is getting a signal the battery is dead, even if it's not....Consider installing the acpi
[06:57] <puff> A reboot is a bit of a pain, because I have a lot of stuff running and I don't like rebooting, but it's not a tragedy.
[06:57] <PurpZeY> jf: Or the powersh script....Like, for my lappy, I had to drop a new script, so that when I unplug my screen dims.
[06:58] <PurpZeY> puff: I would consider that or a key stroke capture.
[06:58] <PurpZeY> puff: Gotta go one way or the other.
[06:58] <puff> Keystroke capture?
[06:58] <puff> Okay, thanks anyway.
[06:58] <tuntun> nickrud: I think you were think was something wrong with the preconfigured ext3
[06:58] <PurpZeY> puff: Some sort of program that tells you if Ubuntu is seeing the mouse click or movement
[06:58] <puff> ah.
[06:58] <puff> Yeah.
[06:58] <gami293> anybody doing the dual screen setup in ubuntu?
[06:58] <jf> purpzey: Perhaps, works great with FreeBSD but there one got no flashy flash :P
[06:58] <puff> gami293: Idid it the other day.
[06:59] <nickrud> tuntun, yes, no file system written. I'd mentioned that before.
[06:59] <Cromag> gami293: depends on the gfx card.
[06:59] <PurpZeY> jf: Sounds like either the acpi or the powersh....I figure, somehow your mobo is getting a dead battery signal
[06:59] <gami293> Cromag --> oh ok  its a Gforce 8600 GTS
[06:59] <Cromag> gami293: sounds nvidia'ish right ?
[06:59] <Parsec300> !copmiz
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copmiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <gami293> Cromag -> ya
[06:59] <PurpZeY> jf: Did you check the forum for your laptop model?
[06:59] <Cromag> gami293: sec ten.
[06:59] <jf> Not yet.
[06:59] <Parsec300> !compmiz
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compmiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <puff> gami293: But that was on a PC that had an nvidia card, so I did it with twinview.
[07:00] <PurpZeY> jf: That'd be my first step
[07:00] <Parsec300> !compiz
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:00] <gami293> Puff -> oh ok.
[07:00] <corinth> Is it impossible to have three displays activated at once with only one gfx card?
[07:00] <nickrud> tuntun, I'm calling it a night. Next time you bring this up, mention (after you've tested of course :) that you can mount that partition and read/write from another distor
[07:00] <PurpZeY> jf: I have to imagine if it's happening to you, it happened to someone else...and I can't figure anyone was too happy with a laptop beeping
[07:00] <Cromag> corinth: you have 3 outputs ?
[07:00] <AutoMatriX> nobody can give me the name of a simple jpg-edititing program ?
[07:00] <tuntun> nickrud: the ext3 is on it though, quick reply
[07:00] <PurpZeY> AutoMatriX: The GIMP
[07:00] <gami293> Cromag -> ya i got everything working, now i just want my bigger lcd to be the primary =c)  hot diggity i can't wait...
[07:01] <AutoMatriX> PurpZeY, TX, I precised simple :(
[07:01] <nickrud> tuntun, sounds like it, if there's a lost+found you can read from another distro
[07:01] <scguy318> PurpZeY: not really simple :P like Photoshop vs. MS Paint :P
[07:01] <Cromag> !twinview
[07:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:01] <Cromag> gami293: there
[07:01] <tuntun> nickrud: thanks, bye
[07:01] <Cromag> as someone else said :)
[07:01] <nickrud> tuntun, see you about
[07:01] <scguy318> AutoMatriX: gpaint
[07:02] <AutoMatriX> scguy318, gonna try that, thanks
[07:02] <puff> i'd *really* like to figure out how to do multiple physical screens where each screen is mapped to a different desktop workspace.
[07:02] <Cromag> gami293: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=dualscreen
[07:02] <jf> purpzey: Aha, did google but weeding out the other problems with beeps is difficult.
[07:02] <PurpZeY> jf: Laptop model?
[07:02] <puff> So when I undock my laptop, I can still get to the other screens via workspace switching.
[07:02] <Parsec300> Anyone got compiz working with an ATI card lately?
[07:03] <newbiee> i have aptoncd image in iso format can i open it through synaptic???
[07:03] <scguy318> Parsec300: you'll probably need to mess with XGL unfortunately
[07:03] <PurpZeY> jf: Laptop model?
[07:03] <Cromag> gami293: im off but look around.
[07:04] <|ns|nR8> no newbiee
[07:04] <gami293> Cromag -> oh ok
[07:05] <jf> purpzey: Clevo m72r.
[07:05] <gami293> cromag -> thanks.
[07:05] <Parsec300> scguy318, I've had it working on an Acer Travelmate 1920 perfectly with xgl a few driver versions ago. Then with the new driver it didn't work anymore with xgl and they blacklisted ATI cards altogether.
[07:05] <Parsec300> I tried whitelisting
[07:05] <newbiee> |ns|nR8: can i restore it i tryed to restore it through aopton but its not happning....but i do it in my other computer.
[07:05] <Parsec300> Just can't get it to work
[07:05] <tuntun> newbiee: you can use it as a source and you can read iside it with any archive program
[07:05] <Parsec300> It has an ATI x700 card
[07:06] <LimCore> well ubuntu will support keyboard?
[07:06] <|ns|nR8> you restore it with aptoncd, then when you install the programs again they dont have to download, they use the backup packages from the iso
[07:06] <Parsec300> I tried altering the xorg.conf file, but still no luck.
[07:06] <|ns|nR8> it basically mounts the iso and adds the destination to your sources.lst
[07:06] <bunny> Hey, I'm not sure this is the place to ask but I can't think of anywhere better:
[07:07] <bunny> I need a simple web app that I can put on my server so that I can simply enter some text in a field and it will save
[07:07] <bunny> So when I go there on another PC the text will still be there
[07:07] <newbiee> tuntun: yes i able to read but i want to install the packages which is inside...can i copy it and paste it in some where from where synaptic can read it......
[07:07] <scguy318> bunny: overkill, pastebin :P
[07:07] <mrdigital> where is the libc development package?
[07:08] <bunny> scguy318: Nah, I need it
[07:08] <|ns|nR8> newbiee, synaptic will read them
[07:08] <|ns|nR8> cause its in sources now
[07:08] <bunny> scguy318: Pastebin is not practical for what I want
[07:08] <|ns|nR8> but its not automatic
[07:08] <tuntun> newbiee: there is an option in both synaptic and aptoncd to use a cd as a source
[07:09] <Parsec300> scguy318, any ideas?
[07:09] <tuntun> bunny: do you know what a tiddlywiki is?
[07:09] <bunny> tuntun: Yes!
[07:09] <bunny> tuntun: Thank you, this is the name of the software I was trying to remember
[07:09] <detedagowa> could leaving it update falling asleep and just leaving the finished update mess up the os thats what i did last time i think thats why it got b0rked
[07:09] <Micc> How can I tell if I have ubuntu 64bit or 32bit kernel installed?
[07:09] <riaal> how can I permantly edit the motd login message?
[07:09] <bunny> tuntun: Which I knew was perfect
[07:09] <bunny> riaal: Edit /etc/motd
[07:09] <scguy318> Micc: uname -a
[07:09] <tuntun> bunny: good, I can't stand them personally :P
[07:09] <bunny> tuntun: Hehe, it is good for what I want though
[07:09] <|ns|nR8> Micc, uname -m
[07:10] <riaal> bunny: It chages back after a while
[07:10] <bunny> riaal: No idea
[07:10] <scguy318> Parsec300: unfortunately not me :(
[07:10] <bunny> tuntun: I just have two PCs and I want a simple place where I can paste things on one and access from another
[07:10] <bunny> tuntun: Dispite them being right next to eachother
[07:11] <riaal> anyone know how to edit the motd message permantly?
[07:12]  * fotoflo is running the install for ubuntu server and it says "configureing apt" scanning the mirror....
[07:12] <fotoflo> how long should this take?
[07:13] <PurpZeY> fotoflo: Total install shouldn't be much over a half hour
[07:13] <fotoflo> the configuring apt step is not making any progress
[07:13] <PurpZeY> fotoflo: Unless it's a network install, in which case you are limited by speed
[07:13] <detedagowa> on GAIM how do i connect to another irc account without shutting off this irc
[07:13] <fotoflo> installing off cd
[07:13] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: Create a new account?
[07:14] <detedagowa> i did
[07:14] <fotoflo> it appears to be stalled out
[07:14] <PurpZeY> detedagowa: I dunno then, ask in #pidgin
[07:14] <th0r> riaal does this help? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[07:14] <PurpZeY> fotoflo: I'd give it some time, if not, if it is a clean install I'd check the veracity of the CD and start again
[07:15] <detedagowa> ill just brbn and connect to both at once
[07:15] <fotoflo> the install appears to be stalled out... is there anything i can do?
[07:15] <PurpZeY> fotoflo: is it a fresh install?
[07:15] <fsanlu> !flash
[07:15] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:15] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:15] <scguy318> fotoflo: behind a network device?
[07:16] <scguy318> fotoflo: never tried this but perhaps sudo ifdown <interface>
[07:16] <fotoflo> purpzey: installing still
[07:16] <PurpZeY> fotoflo: see scguy318
[07:16] <fotoflo> ive rebooted and am veryiing ghte install cd
[07:17] <fotoflo> scguy318: that wont work, no commandline yet
[07:17] <scguy318> fotoflo: in the Terminal, when you're doing the install
[07:17] <fotoflo> the blue screen
[07:17] <detedagowa> i may have a problem
[07:17] <fotoflo> no place to enter commands
[07:17] <scguy318> fotoflo: in that case you can just switch to a tty in Ctrl-Alt-F1-7
[07:17] <fotoflo> doesnt matter now, im checking the cd integrity and if it goes through ill try agian
[07:17] <scguy318> fotoflo: ok
[07:18] <detedagowa> i dont have the updates installed on 6.06 befor i started the upgrade prcess to 6.10
[07:18] <detedagowa> could that be catostrophic?
[07:19] <detedagowa> anybody here>?
[07:19] <soldats> maybe lemme check
[07:19]  * soldats finds himself
[07:20] <detedagowa> soldats lol
[07:20] <PurpZeY> ok children
[07:20] <PurpZeY> I wish you all farewell
[07:20] <soldats> bye bye
[07:21] <alimoe> hellow
[07:21] <nadis> hello guys. is anyone here use gtk+ to program on windows ?
[07:21] <detedagowa> soldats do you think that would b0rk my install if i didnt update my 6.06 first?
[07:21] <alimoe> any ubuntu flv player? plz help
[07:21] <detedagowa> nadis im mainly a c++ guy
[07:21] <alimoe> best flv player
[07:22] <nadis> detedagowa: have you ever write gtk+ program on windows ?
[07:22] <nadis> detedagowa: i am wondering how to do this
[07:22] <nadis> detedagowa:i use Dev-cpp 4.9.9.1
[07:22] <detedagowa> gtk+ never heard of it to be honest
[07:22] <detedagowa> i dont much like dev
[07:22] <detedagowa> visual studio FTW
[07:23] <nadis> detedagowa: FTW ?
[07:23] <detedagowa> for the win lol (meaning it ownssss):)
[07:24] <soldats> detedagowa, the last time i upgraded i didnt update and it went fine
[07:24] <detedagowa> ok
[07:24] <scguy318> detedagowa: Dev-C++ is woefully out of date anyway
[07:25] <detedagowa> yea it definetly is
[07:25] <detedagowa> VC++ is kept up by microsoft
[07:25] <alimoe> help plz
[07:26] <detedagowa> what is everyone favorite language mine is prolly C++
[07:26] <nadis> detedagowa: let's make it clear; i write the code ( using GTK+ ), then how should i do to compile them
[07:26] <detedagowa> nadis is the code your writing in GTK+ C++ code?
[07:26] <detedagowa> ive never heard of GTK+
[07:26] <mkquist> hey all does gstreamer work in gibbon?
[07:26] <Myrtti> !away > ajmorris
[07:27] <detedagowa> !forums
[07:27] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[07:28] <gami293> Cromag -> u still there?
[07:28] <nadis> detedagowa: GTK+ C code
[07:28] <detedagowa> um i thin you would compile it in a c compiler then bud like dev c or somthing
[07:29] <ignignokt> can someone tell me if there's any legit fix for my power management settings doing nothing?  my screen goes black after 10 minutes regardless of my gnome-power-preferences, i've already tried forums/google
[07:29] <steed2008> hi all
[07:30] <mixed> hello?
[07:30] <steed2008> in ubuntu 7.10 ,man 3 printf ,No manual entry for printf in section 3 ,why ?
[07:30] <mixed> I just installed ubuntu studio but it has a fatal flaw, it doesnt have KDE installed!  :-(
[07:31] <ignignokt> mixed: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <ignignokt> i mean
[07:31] <ignignokt> most of the sound applications in studio are geared towards gnome, no?
[07:31] <detedagowa> can somone explain to me me what kubuntu is?
[07:31] <detedagowa> i dont understand those
[07:31] <ignignokt> kubuntu is ubuntu using the KDE desktop environment, rather than gnome, which standard ubuntu uses
[07:32] <mixed> ignignokt, i suppose that could work however I have been unable to find a link to a bash shell or any shell for that matter
[07:32] <scguy318> detedagowa: Kubuntu is a Ubuntu distribution that uses KDE by default, and comes with different default packages, but that's about it
[07:32] <detedagowa> kde is like uh not knoppix what uses kde also
[07:32] <ignignokt> if you installed ubuntustudio
[07:32] <Myrtti> detedagowa: below the surface kubuntu and ubuntu are roughly about the same
[07:32] <ignignokt> why can't you get a shell?
[07:32] <ignignokt> applications>accessories>terminal
[07:32] <bauer77> I am having issues with Compiz getting the cube to work> I am using the Nvidia drivers and have already tried to install xserver-xgl, any suggestions?
[07:33] <scguy318> bauer77: if you're using Nvidia, you don't need XGL
[07:33] <scguy318> bauer77: what issues exactly?
[07:33] <fotoflo> hrem  i gave it another shot and im stuck on configuring apt again
[07:33] <fotoflo> "scanning the mirror"
[07:33] <detedagowa> you think onboard vieo would support the cube?
[07:33] <mixed> ignignokt, I dont know if audio appz are geared for gnome, hopefully theyĺl work for KDE too
[07:33] <bauer77> well I had it working before, and had to reinstall
[07:33] <Parsec300> detedagowa, a desktop environment is like the program with what you work with to operate Linux
[07:33] <bauer77> I just cant get the cube to work anymore
[07:33] <scguy318> fotoflo: bring down your interface
[07:33] <scguy318> bauer77: is it enabled in CCSM?
[07:33] <scguy318> bauer77: the rotate club plugin?
[07:33] <scguy318> *cube
[07:33] <bauer77> yes
[07:33] <ignignokt> mixed: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, see what happens when you log into it
[07:33] <detedagowa> yes
[07:33] <fotoflo> scguy318: no way to do that, no command line
[07:33] <Parsec300> detedagowa, KDE looks and works different than GNOME.
[07:34] <scguy318> fotoflo: switch to tty2/3/4
[07:34] <gami293> Question -> when hooking up ubuntu to a flatpanel tv, (via dvi), all works fine, but the top panel and bottom panel is cropped off.  as in i can't see the "Applications", Places, and System" menus.  i tried adjusting the panel size, but that doesnt fix the issue.  Anybody have similar expierences?    i assume this is overscan?
[07:34] <fotoflo> alt f2
[07:34] <scguy318> fotoflo: Ctrl-Alt-F2
[07:34] <fotoflo> hahah
[07:34] <fotoflo> yup
[07:34] <detedagowa> | parsec300 i know ive used kde befor im just trying to remember what other *nix distros also use kde
[07:34] <Parsec300> Ah
[07:34] <scguy318> bauer77: okay, what happens when you try to activate the cube rotation?
[07:34] <fotoflo> scguy318: ifconfig eth0 down?
[07:34] <detedagowa> does knoppix use it also?
[07:34] <mixed> ignignokt, thanks!  this is the first I use ubuntu, itś 2:34 AM and Im still at it
[07:34] <scguy318> fotoflo: yes
[07:34] <detedagowa> i honestly cant remember
[07:35] <fotoflo> and then up
[07:35] <fotoflo> and then what?
[07:35] <scguy318> fotoflo: keep it down
[07:35] <bauer77> scguy318: its shows it as being activated
[07:35] <ignignokt> mixed: np
[07:35] <fotoflo> ok
[07:35] <fotoflo> then what?
[07:35] <bauer77> I have the four desktop windows set up, just not rotating
[07:35] <ignignokt> so, can someone tell me if there's any legit fix for my power management settings doing nothing?  my screen goes black after 10 minutes regardless of my gnome-power-preferences, i've already tried forums/google
[07:35] <bauer77> I tried to uninstall and reinstall the plugins but no luck with that either
[07:35] <scguy318> bauer77: are you doing the Ctrl+Alt+Left Mouse buton to actiavte it? or however combo you set?
[07:36] <fotoflo> still no progress
[07:36] <scguy318> bauer77: you have to initiate it with that by default I think
[07:36] <scguy318> fotoflo: anything of interest in tty1?
[07:36] <scguy318> fotoflo: or is it 4?
[07:36] <bauer77> when I do Ctrl+Alt+Left I get switching windows
[07:36] <fotoflo> scguy: scanning the mirror
[07:36] <fotoflo> no change
[07:36] <scguy318> fotoflo: with the interface still down? hum
[07:37] <riaal> anyone know why the /etc/motd message change every reboot?
[07:37] <scguy318> bauer77: okay, so what happens when you do Ctrl+Alt+Left Mouse button and move the mouse around?
[07:37] <fotoflo> no mouse driver yet
[07:37] <fotoflo> err heh not taking to me
[07:38] <bauer77> the screen goes side to side, I guess thats the best way to put it
[07:38] <ignignokt> riaal: motd stands for message of the day, lmao
[07:39] <ignignokt> bauer77: do you have wobbly windows?  if not, compiz probably isn't working at all
[07:39] <scguy318> bauer77: mm, not sure then, you may wish to ask in #compiz-fusion if anyone's in there
[07:39] <bauer77> yes I have wobblying windows
[07:39] <bauer77> thanks
[07:39] <bauer77> I am sure its and ID10T error, just cant figure it out
[07:39] <jschitto> friends how do i get sound in ubuntu 710?
[07:39] <scguy318> jschitto: should work automatically, what chipset are you?
[07:39] <scguy318> jschitto: and what Ubuntu version?
[07:40] <jschitto> alsamixer says Realtek ALC888
[07:40] <jschitto> HDA Intel
[07:40] <scguy318> jschitto: ahhh :)
[07:40] <scguy318> jschitto: what Ubuntu version?
[07:40] <jschitto> Ubuntu 64 bit alternate
[07:40] <scguy318> jschitto: latest 7.10?
[07:40] <jschitto> yes and all updated
[07:40] <scguy318> jschitto: k sec
[07:40] <scguy318> jschitto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller may be helpful
[07:41] <scguy318> fotoflo: mm, hum
[07:41] <scguy318> fotoflo: probably silly but keep the interface down before starting installation
[07:42] <detedagowa> is there a way to start the GUI from terminal?
[07:42] <detedagowa> like if i went ctrl-alt-F2
[07:42] <fotoflo> scguy: so reboot and try agian?
[07:42] <scguy318> fotoflo: possibly doing that will quickly cause the scan to fail, letting you move on
[07:42] <Parsec300> detedagowa, try ctrl-alt-F7 or F9
[07:42] <mixed> who in here uses kde in their ubuntu distro??
[07:42] <Parsec300> Or something like that
[07:42] <scguy318> fotoflo: yeah I guess, or, hell, disconnect the network cable
[07:42] <fotoflo> what is the scan doing?
[07:42] <scguy318> mixed: the people in #kubuntu probably
[07:43] <DragonSpirit> Any good linux software for someone looking to do amature movie making?
[07:43] <scguy318> DragonSpirit: probably stuff in Ubuntu Studio
[07:43] <fotoflo> apt-get update?
[07:43] <mixed> DragonSpirit, try ubuntu studio if youŕe able to install another OS, or try cinelerra
[07:43] <scguy318> fotoflo: think so
[07:43] <DragonSpirit> thanks :)
[07:44] <detedagowa> how do i enable ideos to play inside webpages on 6.06
[07:44] <jschitto> thanks scguy318 it is working now
[07:44] <scguy318> jschitto: cool
[07:44] <fotoflo> so now that this is screwed up, should i erase my partitions again?
[07:44] <corinth> Back in my openSUSE 10.2 days, if I hovered over an audio file in nautilus it would automatically start playing a preview of the song, 30 seconds or something. Anyone know how to set this up?
[07:44] <Parsec300> DragonSpirit, if you enter video or editing in the add/remove software, it should give you a video editing tool.
[07:45] <scguy318> fotoflo: a clean install with Ubuntu only? and nothing precious? sure
[07:45] <DragonSpirit> if I add all the sources, universe, multiverse... etc.., I should have access to what ubuntu studio has right?
[07:45] <mixed> ignignokt, I just finished installing KDE, I´m going to log off and log in again with KDE, see if it works
[07:45] <scguy318> DragonSpirit: yes, the Ubuntu Studio repo was merged into the Gutsy repos
[07:45] <ignignokt> so, can someone tell me if there's any legit fix for my power management settings doing nothing?  my screen goes black after 10 minutes regardless of my gnome-power-preferences, i've already tried forums/google
[07:46] <fotoflo> if i have 10 gb available, should i use it all for ubuntu or should i make a gig and a half of swap?
[07:46] <scguy318> fotoflo: do you want to hibernate?
[07:46] <fotoflo> no, its a server
[07:47] <scguy318> fotoflo: well, if you've enough RAM, then sure
[07:47] <fotoflo> 1gb
[07:47] <scguy318> fotoflo: nah, don't really need swap, though if you want to, thats fine
[07:48] <fotoflo> k
[07:48] <bauer77> scguy318: I got the cube working, it was the settings in  General options to set the desktop horizontal and vertical to 4
[07:48] <DragonSpirit> as mature as linux has become I've found it hard to find much I can do in windows that I cannot in linux
[07:48] <fotoflo> ok installing again, lets see if we can get past 40%!
[07:48] <scguy318> bauer77: ah, didn't know :)
[07:48] <fotoflo> no network this time
[07:48] <scguy318> bauer77: thanks for that
[07:49] <fotoflo> scguy318: so im going to have to set up dhcp manually then, right?
[07:49] <DragonSpirit> commercial gaming being about the only obvious thing
[07:49] <classic-boy> classic-boy
[07:49] <jschitto> DragonSpirit: vmware is still nice for some things
[07:49] <scguy318> fotoflo: think so
[07:49] <bauer77> well thanks for getting me on the right track..hehe
[07:49] <classic-boy> 有人懂中文吗？
[07:49] <Parsec300> DragonSpirit, perhaps WINE will be an answer to gaming in the near future.
[07:49] <scguy318> DragonSpirit: or people will actually start making games for Linux
[07:50] <DragonSpirit> Parsec300, already is for the ones I have, I'm not much of an avid gamer though
[07:50] <soldats> !xevil
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xevil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <jschitto> pc seems to be dying as a gaming platform anyway
[07:50] <scguy318> jschitto: lies :P
[07:50] <jschitto> =)
[07:50] <Duo_Maxwell> Hi, I need help! I instaled Windows, and I lost the GRUB, now I instaled GRUB, and windows xp do not boot any more, and I cant Mount the Partition of the WINDOWS (NTFS)
[07:50] <scguy318> jschitto: but that's something for #ubuntu-offtopic so I'll keep mum
[07:50] <Beetle121> Online videos aren't as sharp as when I'm running in windows....any ideas as to why? Is there an "all in one" Firefox plugin to handle my video media?
[07:50] <fotoflo> fun
[07:50] <soldats> ?find xevil
[07:51] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: why can't you mount the Windows partition?
[07:51] <fotoflo> is there a way to automaticly configure dhcp after installation?\
[07:51] <DragonSpirit> the controller on consoles is so limited in its freedom of movement though, I always thought a stick was awful for 3d shooters
[07:51] <soldats> well anyways xevil is in the gusty repos and is a fun 2d game
[07:51] <Duo_Maxwell> I dont know
[07:51] <scguy318> fotoflo: should be a simple System -> Admin -> Network thing
[07:51] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: what are you doing to mount the Windows partition?
[07:51] <Micc> how come some of my windows are now coming up with just black in the content?
[07:51] <Duo_Maxwell> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[07:51] <unholycrap> how can i remove the loading screen for ubuntu so that i can dmesg output
[07:52] <jasper> Is it possible to set filesystem quota's on a per directory basis? So, say, 1G for /a/b/c on filesystem /a for group 'foo'.
[07:52] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Hi, how do i find what sound card i have?
[07:52] <Micc> Everything was fine for a while. I just started using compiz
[07:52] <Duo_Maxwell> Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[07:52] <Parsec300> DragonSpirit, I've tried to get Rollercoaster Tycoon to work with Crossover, but it was slow. Is it supposed to be slow?
[07:52] <walkies> Dragnslcr now we have a whole generation of console fps gamers that'll own our asses using either mouse or joystick
[07:52] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[07:52] <Parsec300> Or should I try Cedega?
[07:52] <Parsec300> Or just plain WINE?
[07:52] <detedagowa> !updatwe
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatwe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <detedagowa> !update
[07:52] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:52] <DragonSpirit> I'm just using wine, though I don't have that game
[07:52] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Is there a terminal command that will show me what kind of sound card i have?
[07:52] <bauer77> just play Alien Arena...hehe
[07:52] <walkies> install windows xp if you want to play rollercoarster tycoon :P
[07:53] <Arv3n> Hello!
[07:53] <bauer77> I agree with walkies, the joy of a KVM switch...lol
[07:53] <scguy318> walkies: or run it on Wine :P
[07:53] <Arv3n> Can anyone help? I get this error when running ./buildset: No convert found in path.
[07:53] <detedagowa> i was thinkling of getting WoW to crossover
[07:53] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: I try "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda" and this appear "Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument"
[07:53] <scguy318> walkies: according to the AppDb RCT1 has Platinum status
[07:53] <detedagowa> then i would quit windows altogether
[07:54] <walkies> gaming is trivial except for nethack
[07:54] <walkies> and chess
[07:54] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: are you sure it's hda and not sda?
[07:54] <walkies> (and mtg) *runs*
[07:54] <soldats> lol yea
[07:54] <detedagowa> i play wow for somthing to do not as a lifestyle as other put it
[07:54] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318:  yea, I look at GPARTED...
[07:54] <Arv3n> omg.
[07:54] <Arv3n> this is exactly what im talking about.
[07:54] <Arv3n> i cant even install an icon theme.
[07:54] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: ok, how about specifying -t ntfs-3g or -t ntfs?
[07:55] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: and does your mount point exist?
[07:55] <Arv3n> and i have an error that nobody has heard about before.
[07:55] <fotoflo> scguy318: sweet, its working (unplugged the network cable...)
[07:55] <Arv3n> so nobody can help
[07:55] <Arv3n> and google gives me search results about converting to islam.
[07:55] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: hmm, Mount Point?
[07:55] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: /media/hda, it has to exist to mount to it ;)
[07:55] <detedagowa> lol
[07:55] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: Yes, I have it
[07:56] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: how about sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda?
[07:56] <detedagowa> you know id go islam if i had directions:)
[07:56] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: I'll try now
[07:56] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: that's assuming you have NTFS-3G installed and you want r/w access
[07:56] <Duo_Maxwell> yes
[07:56] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: success?
[07:57] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: ntfs-3g: Cannot mount 'mount': No such file or directory
[07:57] <Duo_Maxwell> no :/
[07:57] <Psyco_Chipmunk> How do i find what soundcard i have???
[07:57] <detedagowa> brb all 20 miutes left on install need some necessaties from store
[07:58] <detedagowa> psycho..go to the hardware managwer
[07:58] <fotoflo> scguy318: cool, i can go back and add more software after the installation from the installer, and reconfigure dhcp
[07:58] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: did you type it the way I had it?
[07:58] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda
[07:58] <detedagowa> SYSTEM>ADMIN>DEVICE MAN
[07:58] <scguy318> fotoflo: yes
[07:58] <scguy318> fotoflo: after installation just generate your sources.list via source-o-matic or Software Sources (think it does that)
[07:59] <Psyco_Chipmunk> detedagowa,  wheres the hardware maneger?
[07:59] <Pitel> Good morning! Can someone tell me if there is any difference between "i810" and "intel" drivers regarding XvMC?
[07:59] <fotoflo> scguy318: err. how do i mount a cdrom from the console?
[07:59] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318:  I used this  sudo ntfs-3g  mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[07:59] <Parsec300> detedagowa, I believe Crossover is more for Apps and Cedega is more for games. But I'm not sure
[07:59] <detedagowa> system>admin>deviemanager usually on top of list
[07:59] <scguy318> fotoflo: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[07:59] <scguy318> fotoflo: assuming of course that the mount point exists
[07:59] <Parsec300> Duo_Maxwell, is that stable?
[07:59] <Psyco_Chipmunk> detedagowa,  nothing there
[08:00] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: do it like I had it
[08:00] <scguy318> Parsec300: NTFS-3G? very much stable
[08:00] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: Unexpected clusters per mft record (-1).
[08:00] <nrober> trying to install awn, done it before, but just did a fresh install of ubuntu gutsy and it says i need dependency libawn0, anyone know what that is/how to get it?
[08:00] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318: Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Invalid argument
[08:00] <Duo_Maxwell> The device '/dev/hda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[08:00] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: if you have your XP install CD, you may wish to chkdsk your Windows partition
[08:00] <Slart> > are there any "file activity monitors" for linux.. for example, could use something like the "tail" command that listed processname and file that was used.. I'm not looking for open files.. just files that are being used
[08:00] <detedagowa> brb all
[08:01] <Psyco_Chipmunk> isn't there a terminal command that tells u what sound card u have?
[08:01] <scguy318> Slart: but if files are used, that means they are open :P
[08:01] <Duo_Maxwell> scguy318:  ok! THANKS!
[08:01] <Duo_Maxwell> :)
[08:01] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: you should also clarify on the booting situation, which you said you had
[08:01] <scguy318> Duo_Maxwell: but we can do that after this
[08:01] <Slart> scguy318: yes.. but there are a gazillion files open.. but only a few are actively used.. the trouble is filtering them out
[08:02] <unholycrap> how can i remove the loading screen for ubuntu so that i can dmesg output
[08:02] <Duo_Maxwell> ok, I'll chkdsk and come back here...
[08:02] <scguy318> unholycrap: remove quiet splash from your kernel boot defaults
[08:02] <scguy318> unholycrap: then sudo update-grub
[08:02] <Slart> Psyco_Chipmunk: check in /proc/asound/cards
[08:02] <scguy318> unholycrap: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:02] <unholycrap> kernel boot defaults?
[08:03] <unholycrap> is that in the grub conf
[08:03] <scguy318> unholycrap: yeah the line that's commented out
[08:03] <scguy318> unholycrap: edit that
[08:03] <scguy318> unholycrap: don't uncomment, but save, sudo update-grub
[08:03] <fotoflo> great
[08:03] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Slart,  how do i get there?
[08:03] <fotoflo> when i login it says -bash: /dev/null permission denied
[08:03] <scguy318> unholycrap: # defoptions=
[08:03] <fotoflo> and i dont get a prompt
[08:03] <Slart> Psyco_Chipmunk: run this "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[08:03] <fotoflo> wtf ubuntu !@!@!
[08:04] <scguy318> fotoflo: :S
[08:04] <soldats> @Phoenix
[08:04] <fotoflo> this was NOT a routine install
[08:04] <fotoflo> and still nothing
[08:04] <fotoflo> hours later
[08:04] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Slart,  --no sound cards--
[08:05] <kraut> moin
[08:05] <Linux_> hi
[08:05] <Slart> Psyco_Chipmunk: ok, that only tells you that alsa didn't find any soundcards.. you could look through lspci output too
[08:05] <fotoflo> bad bad bad
[08:06] <Linux_> i got problem with my wifi  the problem is when i try to connect i can't if i have password on it and if i disable password then i can any help please?
[08:06] <scguy318> fotoflo: server install?
[08:06] <fotoflo> scguy318: any suggstions
[08:06] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Slart,  how?
[08:06] <fotoflo> scguy318: yeah
[08:06] <scguy318> fotoflo: mm, try a boot in single-user?
[08:06] <Slart> Psyco_Chipmunk: run "lspci".. look at all the pretty numbers.. see if anything looks like a soundcard.. =)
[08:06] <scguy318> fotoflo: that's very strange
[08:07] <fotoflo> "fake start-stop daemon called"
[08:07] <fotoflo> doing nothing
[08:07] <Linux_> i got problem with my wifi  the problem is when i try to connect i can't if i have password on it and if i disable password then i can any help please?
[08:07] <fotoflo> yeah
[08:07] <unholycrap> its commented # defoptions=quiet slash
[08:07] <rkj> ok here's a dumb newbie question - why isn't my .profile being executed when I start a terminal window?
[08:07] <unholycrap> uncomment this? and use quiet splash
[08:07] <fotoflo> gonna do this again
[08:07] <fotoflo> one last time
[08:07] <scguy318> unholycrap: don't
[08:07] <Moniker42> can i monitor HDD temp from ubuntu?
[08:07] <scguy318> unholycrap: remove quiet splash
[08:07] <fotoflo> and if it doesnt work im going to go back to 7.6
[08:08] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Slart,  lol, whats a soundcard look like?
[08:08] <fotoflo> or somethiung
[08:08] <scguy318> fotoflo: alrighty
[08:08] <Kevin`> smartctl or hddtemp
[08:08] <fotoflo> 7.06
[08:08] <scguy318> 7.04 :P
[08:08] <unholycrap> scguy318 remove the work quietsplash and use 0 or leave it blank?
[08:08] <wy> Just tried vmware paravirtual support on Gutsy. Fantastic!
[08:08] <fotoflo> 04?
[08:08] <scguy318> unholycrap: make that line look like how mine is
[08:08] <scguy318> unholycrap: # defoptions=
[08:08] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[08:08] <scguy318> unholycrap: then save, sudo update-grub
[08:08] <Slart> Psyco_Chipmunk: well.. it could say something about "Creative", "soundblaster".. "audigy"... that's only a few
[08:10] <detedagowa> does anyone know if compiz supports 945G Integrated Graphics Controller?
[08:10] <detedagowa> intel graphics
[08:10] <scguy318> detedagowa: yes, Compiz actually works very nicely on Intels
[08:10] <detedagowa> shweet
[08:10] <enyc> detedagowa well thats an xorg thing... i would have thought it will work in some way.. i know intel have some open acceleraned support
[08:10] <detedagowa> so the cube should work?
[08:10] <enyc> dasickis: which effects work acceptably depends on situation
[08:11] <scguy318> detedagowa: yes, got it to work on such a machine
[08:11] <detedagowa> awsome
[08:11] <scguy318> detedagowa: I have a machine with that chip
[08:11] <detedagowa> dell by chance>
[08:11] <wy> detedagowa: works much better than on ATI
[08:11] <detedagowa> is compiz ok with 6 screens?
[08:11] <fotoflo> this sucks - im supposed to be getting work done
[08:11] <detedagowa> i run a 6 monitor setup
[08:12] <Parsec300> detedagowa, 6? Do you work at SETI or something?
[08:12] <enyc> detedagowa: bah! i only have 4 at w0rk ;-(
[08:12] <detedagowa> SETI lol i quit that stuff when i was like 9 i used to think that was so cool
[08:12] <enyc> dasickis: g550-dual + millenium + voodoo3  and 4 displays
[08:12] <detedagowa> no im just a 15 year old computer nerd lol
[08:12] <enyc> detedagowa:  g550-dual + millenium + voodoo3  and 4 displays
[08:13] <gradin> ...
[08:13] <enyc> dasickis: wrong person solly
[08:13] <scguy318> detedagowa: oh ditto :P
[08:13] <gradin> nie antiquated hardware
[08:13] <detedagowa> rofls
[08:13] <detedagowa> what kind fo specs u got on your main box?
[08:13] <scguy318> detedagowa: this laptop is 700 Mhz 512 MB
[08:13] <scguy318> detedagowa: I don't really have a main box
[08:13] <detedagowa> im running a 3.6 GHZ dual core P4 4GB SDRAM 500 GB HDD
[08:13] <scguy318> detedagowa: yummy
[08:13] <detedagowa> liquid cooled lol
[08:14] <enyc> gradin: well im trying to run  xterm xterm xterm xterm xterm xterm xterm firefox xterm xterm thunderbird xterm xterm and xterm usually
[08:14] <enyc> gradin: it seems to work ok for that ;-)
[08:14] <detedagowa> it was hard but i peiced together a liquid cooling system that worked on dells mismatched shit
[08:14] <gradin> enyc: bleah firefox sucks...
[08:14] <enyc> gradin: [ok]
[08:14] <detedagowa> oh you did not just dis firefox
[08:14] <detedagowa> lol
[08:14] <scguy318> gradin: might be fat, but the extensions are irreplacable :P
[08:14] <Parsec300> detedagowa, Dual core P4? I didn't know they made those. Or is it two processord on one MB?
[08:14] <cptR3D> gradin: what do you use then?
[08:15] <gradin> scguy318: get a windoze box and slap on maxthon
[08:15] <detedagowa> not P4 i meant P-D
[08:15] <detedagowa> i get that mixed up alot sorrys
[08:15] <scguy318> gradin: maxthon being?
[08:15] <gradin> scguy318: binary browser
[08:15] <Erealz> hey their guys I was wondering why exactly I can't right click on gparted to resize a partion ?
[08:15] <Frek818> gradin: Maxthon sucks
[08:16] <Parsec300> Erealz, it's probably mounted.
[08:16] <detedagowa> it says dual core pentium 4 hiyperthreading technoolgy but if u dig in more its actually a pentium d
[08:16] <scguy318> gradin: assuming I'd want to try this browser, work on Wine?
[08:16] <Erealz> ic
[08:16] <gradin> better more useful features, and more lightweight at 20 tabs deep than ie6
[08:17] <Linux_> how can i change my interface name?
[08:17] <detedagowa> lol this installer has said 10 minutes remaining the whole time
[08:17] <detedagowa> it cant choose whether its 9 or 10 minutes left
[08:18] <Parsec300> Erealz, you cannot do any repartitioning with Gparted while a disk is mounted.
[08:18] <Erealz> ic
[08:18] <Erealz> I didn't know that thnx
[08:18] <detedagowa> whats the fix for the slow ass internets on the 6.06
[08:18] <Parsec300> If it is your main HD and need to resize your Linux partition, you can't do it from runing Linux from it.
[08:18] <Parsec300> You can try it by running it from the BOOTCD.
[08:19] <detedagowa> easiest is to run the live cd then do it
[08:19] <detedagowa> thats how i resize
[08:19] <Parsec300> Or download Hiren's BootCD9.3 and use partition Magic.
[08:19] <scguy318> Parsec300: that CD has a LOT better partitioners than PartMagic :P
[08:20] <scguy318> Parsec300: though not too sure about the status of partitioning operations on ext3 for other products
[08:20] <alecwh> I installed konqueror on my machine (GNOME), but the theme is really ugly. Can I change the KDE theme on GNOME?
[08:20] <scguy318> alecwh: yeah, when you installed Konqueror, some KDE control stuff should have been installed also
[08:21] <detedagowa> there ios no KDE theme on gnome kde and gnome are to diff things
[08:21] <Parsec300> scguy318, Like what? I've always like partition magic. I've used partition commander once, because magic couldn't do the trick and it corrupted a little bit the MBR. Neede Magic to repair the MBR.
[08:21] <detedagowa> oooorrrr i have no idea what im talking about just dont mind me rofls
[08:21] <thesmiler> hey, has anyone had experience setting up the logitech communicate deluxe?
[08:21] <fitztrev> Does anyone recommend a good all-in-one printer that is fully compatible with Ubuntu?
[08:21] <alecwh> scguy318: how do I change it?
[08:21] <scguy318> Parsec300: Acronis, Paragon
[08:21] <ahaswell> fitztrev: anything HP works well for me
[08:22] <Parsec300> ok
[08:22] <scguy318> alecwh: on my thing, Apps -> Other -> Theme Manager, could be totally wrong though
[08:22] <alecwh> scguy318: no, I'm on gnome.
[08:22] <scguy318> Parsec300: but that's just my opinion, I've stuck to GPartEd :P
[08:22] <scguy318> alecwh: I know that
[08:22] <fitztrev> ahaswell: ok great... can you point me to a specific model?
[08:22] <scguy318> alecwh: that's what I've got on GNOME after installing k3b
[08:22] <alecwh> scguy318: can you see what the command is?
[08:22] <alecwh> scguy318: hmm...
[08:22] <ahaswell> erm not to hand
[08:22] <scguy318> alecwh: sure sec
[08:23] <methods> my udevd is pinning my cpu and i notice all these weird messages in my logs running *constantly* !!!  ""Jan  2 03:22:36 daquino-laptop kernel: [120992.300000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table""
[08:23] <alecwh> scguy318: thanks
[08:23] <richardjc> anybody here uses netbeans?
[08:23] <riaal> where shall I put a svn repos? /var?
[08:23] <Smegzor> I managed to enable desktop effects in KDE using a console command.  How do I disable desktop effects?
[08:23] <Linux_> any help with changing interface name?
[08:23] <scguy318> Smegzor: if you stuck compiz --replace in your startup, remove it
[08:23] <Smegzor> This was the command I used to enable them..  compiz --replace
[08:24] <scguy318> Smegzor: or you could just do "kdewindowmanager --replace"
[08:24] <methods> kill compiz
[08:24] <scguy318> Smegzor: not sure what the KDE wm is
[08:24] <methods> kwin
[08:24] <Smegzor> Thats what I was looking for (the 2nd one).  Thanks.
[08:24] <Smegzor> kwin --replace ?
[08:24] <riaal> anyone? where is a good "standard" place to put an svn repos?
[08:25] <riaal>    /var?
[08:25] <Smegzor> yay!  thanks.
[08:25] <alecwh> scguy318: would it be kcontrol maybe? Can you launch it in your terminal and see if it works?
[08:25] <Smegzor> Compiz-fusion is nice but does make strange things happen after a while.
[08:27] <scguy318> alecwh: that does it
[08:27] <alecwh> scguy318: much thanks! =)
[08:27] <detedagowa> ill be back in a bit install is almost done then ill sign back on on gutsy!!
[08:27] <Parsec300> How do you stop the Xserver from a terminal anyway?
[08:27] <scguy318> Parsec300: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:28] <scguy318> Parsec300: assuming that you're running GNOME of course
[08:28] <Parsec300> tnx
[08:28] <Parsec300> Yes
[08:28] <unholycrap> what is the name of that utility to see what kind of hardware i have that is not insatlled
[08:28] <unholycrap> like to find out the vendor name and the model
[08:28] <Parsec300> I just thought with 'startx' it would be almost as easy as stopx. But that didn't work
[08:28] <unholycrap> so i can find drivers for it
[08:28] <unholycrap> like the linux equivelant of everest
[08:29] <cptR3D> my volume control icon is missing
[08:29] <scguy318> Parsec300: to kill X, I think just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in the session
[08:29] <cptR3D> i still have sound tho
[08:29] <timandtom> How do I turn off the numbering thing in OpenOffice Word Processor, so that when I type 1. it doesn't start that godawful thing where it add a number for you everytime you hit enter
[08:29] <Smegzor> Also, I started using Tomboy Notes (awesome!), but I can't add plugins in kde, only in Gnome.  Is there a way to do it in KDE.
[08:29] <cptR3D> any ideas?
[08:29] <jesse_> unholycrap: you want a list of every piece of hardware you dont have?
[08:29] <scguy318> unholycrap: lspci, but it's just a listing of all PCI hardware
[08:29] <Parsec300> scguy318, yeah, but the it starts right back up.
[08:29] <scguy318> unholycrap: graphical app would be, System -> Prefs -> Hardware Info
[08:29] <unholycrap> lspci i think thats it
[08:29] <scguy318> Parsec300: because gdm is restarting it :)
[08:30] <scguy318> Parsec300: if you started X via startx
[08:30] <unholycrap> wil that tell me what kind of integrated hardware i have like sound and network cards?
[08:30] <scguy318> Parsec300: nothing's going to restart the session
[08:30] <scguy318> unholycrap: lspci
[08:30] <Parsec300> scguy318, yeah, but if it started at boot, it will, right?
[08:30] <scguy318> brb guys I need to restart my mIRC (on Wine :P)
[08:30] <scguy318> Parsec300: yep
[08:31] <Smegzor> eww  mIRC.  Pidgin ftw!
[08:31] <jesse_> Smegzor: irssi ftw :D
[08:31] <scguy318> Smegzor: Pidgin's terrible as an IRC client
[08:31] <test1-pidgin> hello
[08:32] <DragonSpirit> I like xchat as a gui client myself
[08:32] <Smegzor> I've tried several clients.  I never liked mIRC.  This one works well enough.  Xchat is good too.  Never tried irssi
[08:33] <stacey> i was trying to free up space and emptied /root/ but now i have problems wth kdesudo, how do i fix this?
[08:33] <Frek818> Smegzor: What are you using?
[08:33] <Smegzor> Pidgin!
[08:34] <Smegzor> I'm a sucker for apps with pretty icons/mascots
[08:34] <Parsec300> Anyone have a good nzb complient newsreader other than Klibido? I think Klibido doesn't give you enough info. Like how long the entire download will take.
[08:34] <DragonSpirit> I am using pidgin right now, but not for this.
[08:34] <timandtom> Can someone tell me how to turn off the numbering/bulleting "feature" in OO.org's Word Processor, or point me somewhere that could help? Everytime I insert a new line it gives me a friggin number :/ Makes doing my homework a tad annoying.
[08:34] <Parsec300> Smegzor, sounds like you need to go OSX.
[08:34] <fotoflo> scguy318: if the cd verifies, but the install doesnt work, any suggestions?
[08:34] <Smegzor> :O  eww.  No way!
[08:35] <Parsec300> timandtom, isn't there a button to do that? Or a menu-item?
[08:35] <Smegzor> I've heard about Mac people.  They sound a lot nastier than other computer users.
[08:35] <Moniker42> Macs aren't computers now?
[08:35] <Parsec300> Hmm... I am one myself.
[08:35] <Parsec300> And it runs Ubuntu 7.10 like a charm btw.
[08:36] <timandtom> Parsec300: Uh, maybe? This is one of my first times using it for anything other then just keeping random notes in, and I didnt see it after looking around a little, so instead of screwing something up, I thought id ask
[08:36] <scguy318> fotoflo: what doesn't?
[08:36] <detedagowa> im ony edgy now going to gutsy i think right?
[08:36] <Masse> Is there a application that will take a video file and put it into VCD format on a CD-R?
[08:37] <Parsec300> timandtom, that's why I hinted you to look for a button or a menu-item.
[08:38] <wols_> detedagowa: you need to go from edgy to feisty, then gutsy
[08:38] <timandtom> Parsec300: >.> I managed to miss the two buttons I was looking for... Ha, well, thanks :)
[08:38] <wols_> directly from edgy to feisty is not possible
[08:38] <detedagowa> does the upgrade fomr 6.10 to 7.04 take a long time?
[08:38] <Parsec300> timandtom, good then.
[08:38] <detedagowa> 56 minutes it says
[08:39] <wols_> erm edgy to gutsy of course
[08:40] <stacey> detedagowa: it depends on conection speeds, and how busy servers are
[08:42] <mha> I have a clean install of Ubuntu 7.10, and the binary /usr/bin/vncviewer (realvnc viewer 4.1.1). Yet I cannot find any package associated with this binary. dpkg -S vncviewer returns dpkg: *vncviewer* not found, and searching packages.ubuntu.com returns 0
[08:42] <mha> so. where may this binary have come from? :)
[08:43] <mrdigital> how do i install 3d acel nvidia driver?
[08:43] <scguy318> !nvidia | mrdigital
[08:43] <ubotu> mrdigital: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <mha> mrdigital: search the ubuntu wiki.
[08:43] <scguy318> mha: dunno xvnc4viewer?
[08:43] <mha> scguy318: nope. that delivers another vnc viewer binary :)
[08:44] <mha> scguy318: got that one too.
[08:44] <scguy318> mha: maybe apt-file will help you look, not sure
[08:44] <mha> scguy318: "apt-file"?
[08:44] <scguy318> mha: a utility that can be obtained from the repos
[08:44] <Yautja> anyone running ubuntu in PS3? that's cool.
[08:45] <Parsec300> Anybody here familiar with SSH?
[08:45] <scguy318> mha: think it lets you search for a file in the repos or something
[08:45] <scguy318> Parsec300: kinda what's up?
[08:45] <scguy318> Yautja: not me, but did you have a question?
[08:45] <mha> scguy318: there is no binary on my system named apt-file. on the other hand you can use dpkg -S do do the search.
[08:45] <Parsec300> To go from one OSX box to the other, I type 'ssh -g -C -c aes128-cbc user@ipaddress -L 5900/127.0.0.1/5900
[08:45] <wols_> mha: then install it? or use packages.ubuntu.com
[08:46] <Parsec300> But, that didn't work with Ubuntu to OSX
[08:46] <Moniker42> anyone here familiar with hddtemp?
[08:46] <Moniker42> sean@sean-desktop:~$ sudo hddtemp /dev/hda
[08:46] <Moniker42> /dev/hda: open: No such file or directory
[08:46] <wols_> Moniker42: sudo fdisk -l
[08:46] <scguy318> Monkier42: sudo fdisk -l to determine what disk you want
[08:47] <Parsec300> scguy318, Ubuntu says that it can't listen out on 5900, because some other app is using it.
[08:47] <Moniker42> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[08:47] <Yautja> scguy318, not really, but it seems that it's running a bit slow comparing normal PC. some said PS3 is really some kind power house. is it true?
[08:47] <scguy318> Parsec300: shouldn't those slahes be colons?
[08:47] <wols_> Moniker42: hddtemp /dev/sda then
[08:47] <Moniker42> it's definitely /dev/sda... so why is it saying not found?
[08:47] <scguy318> Parsec300: Remote Desktop enabled?
[08:47] <Moniker42> oh
[08:47] <scguy318> Parsec300: you can always specify a diff port
[08:48] <matti> Morning :)
[08:48] <scguy318> Parsec300: for the local tunnel, 55555 or w/e you want, vncviewer can use a port other than 5900
[08:48] <Parsec300> scguy318, I don't exactly understand what the line is saying.
[08:48] <scguy318> Parsec300: -g option = allows remote hosts to connect to forwarded ports
[08:48] <XiXaQ> I'm trying to use wget to make an offline browsable mirror of www.djangoproject.org. Shouldn't wget --mirror http://www.djangoproject.org do that? It only downloads the index.html file.
[08:49] <scguy318> Parsec300: -C enables compression, -c lets you pick what cipher to use in the connection
[08:49] <scguy318> XiXaQ: wget -R but PLEASE use --wait
[08:50] <scguy318> Parsec300: user@ipaddress is obvious, and -L is the local tunnel you want
[08:50] <Parsec300> So, why do I need local tunnel while I was ssh-ing from Afghanistan to home?
[08:50] <scguy318> Parsec300: to tunnel your VNC connection through the SSH connection
[08:51] <XiXaQ> scguy318, no, that still results in only the index.html file being downloaded. The manpage also sais --mirror covers -r.
[08:51] <Parsec300> How is that different from a remote tunnel then?
[08:52] <hipitihop> I have some old machines that I would like update latest bios/firmware is there a definitive way to test what the correct bios one has so that I can find and download the latest ?
[08:52] <scguy318> Parsec300: remote tunnel is when you want a connection to the server end to be forwarded to local client
[08:52] <Parsec300> What would that be good for?
[08:53] <scguy318> Parsec300: dunno, perhaps enable DCC?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Parsec300: think of it as port forwarding - you forward the local port to the remote server over ssh, then connect to the local port
[08:53] <hipitihop> anyone know how I can my version brand and version information ?
[08:54] <scguy318> XiXaQ: maybe robots.txt is in force?
[08:54] <scguy318> XiXaQ: lemme look at the site
[08:54] <Parsec300> So, what exactly is -L 5900/127.0.0.1/5900 exactly mean?
[08:54] <scguy318> Parsec300: create a local listener on the client side on port 5900, and any incoming connections to that listener are tunneled over the SSH link to the specified destination and port
[08:55] <Masse> Has anyone been successful in installing K3B? I need some assistance. Is is saying that the C complier can't create executable files.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Masse: umm, just type  sudo apt-get install k3b ?
[08:55] <wols_> Masse: why do you compile it from source?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Masse: why are you compiling it?
[08:56] <Parsec300> Does it mean that once I'm in the computer with SSH, 127.0.0.1 is the computer that I'm in? And that I'm telling it to put everything on 9500 tunnel through ssh?
[08:57] <simplechat> 127.0.0.1 is the comp your in
[08:57] <Masse> Well I couldn't find it synaptic so I downloaded the source and tried to compile it. Didn't realize I could just use the apt-get command to get it
[08:57] <Masse> But I just tried it and it doesn't seem like it works
[08:57] <inktree> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655665
[08:57] <inktree> can someone help me with that problem
[08:57] <extracted_> Is any one else having problems with the theme manager in 7.10
[08:57] <thoreauputic> Masse: try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:57] <scguy318> Parsec300: no, the destination is resolved by the server
[08:58] <scguy318> Parsec300: thus 127.0.0.1 refers to the server end
[08:58] <Parsec300> I see.
[08:58] <vat> i see too
[08:58] <inktree> someone help me with my problem and i shall reward you with $0 paypal
[08:58] <Masse> thoreauputic: What does that command do?
[08:58] <extracted_> every time i drag a theme over to be installed it shows it being installed successfully but it never shows up for me to select it
[08:58] <wols_> Masse: it simply installs k3b
[08:59] <thoreauputic> Masse: updates the list of available packages, then installs k3b
[08:59] <apanda02> hey guys i need some really quick help
[08:59] <unholycrap> what
[08:59] <Parsec300> So in the ssh command line, -R would be me, right?
[08:59] <Masse> Well I just tried your solution and it says 11 resources are unavailable and the download directory is lock
[08:59] <apanda02> i am booted into the ubuntu live cd trying to intall to onmy ubuntu partiti
[08:59] <JimmyDee> close synaptic
[08:59] <wols_> Masse: then some libapt using program is already running
[08:59] <Masse> Oooh
[08:59] <thoreauputic> Masse: close any other installer app
[08:59] <apanda02> when i do the setup command
[09:00] <Masse> Snaptic that's right sorry
[09:00] <apanda02> it says How to dual boot Windows XP and Linux (XP installed first)
[09:00] <extracted_> i guess i am the only person having problems with that.
[09:00] <Masse> Aaah there we go I believe we have figured it out
[09:00] <scguy318> Parsec300: -R?
[09:00] <apanda02> sorry
[09:00] <Masse> Thanks thoreauputic, wols and JimmyDee
[09:00] <Masse> Appreciate it
[09:00] <scguy318> XiXaQ: hmm, unfortunately I dunno :(
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Masse: :)
[09:01] <XiXaQ> scguy318, seems like it's because the site is moved permanently to www.djangoproject.com
[09:01] <Parsec300> Yeah, -L (local) would be the server in the command line and -R (remote) would be me.
[09:01] <jcg42> What are my options as far as Media Center programs on Ubuntu? I don't need DVR functions like with MythTV. I just wanna be able to browse the videos, music, pictures, etc. already on my computer.
[09:01] <scguy318> XiXaQ: don't think it's that
[09:01] <scguy318> Parsec300: oh, yes
[09:01] <apanda02> "/boot/grub/stage1" does not exist when installing grub
[09:01] <extracted_> jcg42 mplayer
[09:01] <hipitihop> does anyone know how I can find out my bios details so that I can download latest bios update ?
[09:01] <apanda02> how do i fix that?
[09:02] <extracted_> any one else having problems with the theme manager in ubuntu 7.10 ?
[09:02] <scguy318> XiXaQ: oh, working
[09:02] <vat> oh
[09:02] <scguy318> XiXaQ: wget --mirror --wait=5 www.djangoproject.com
[09:03] <jcg42> extracted_, I mean something with a nice interface like MythTV or MediaPortal that I can browse with a remote on my TV.
[09:03] <scguy318> XiXaQ: please set your --wait, would suck for the server if you didn't
[09:03] <extracted_> jcg42 i use a modded x-box to stream all my movies to my tv from my file server
[09:03] <apanda02> ok when I try to install grub to the ubuntu partition
[09:03] <scguy318> XiXaQ: try that, working?
[09:03] <apanda02> it gives me the error saying parition cannot be mounted
[09:03] <extracted_> and any rca universal remote will let control it
[09:03] <apanda02> wt am i doing wrong?
[09:04] <jcg42> extracted, yeah is there anything like XBMC for Ubuntu?
[09:04] <Flannel> jcg42: MythTV has a media player sort of thing too as a plugin, you might check that out
[09:04] <DragonSpirit> heh, installed alot of movie editing stuff, now my gnome menu is mostly gone, oh well I will fix it I suppose
[09:04] <Parsec300> scguy318, so, with -L 5900/127.0.0.1/5900 I am telling the server to redirect 5900 thru 5900? Maybe my reasoning is wrong here.
[09:04] <extracted_> jcg42, that i dont know :(
[09:04] <scguy318> Parsec300: 5900 port on your end -> the destination 127.0.0.1:5900
[09:05] <DragonSpirit> odd it is magically back
[09:05] <extracted_> jcg42, would be nice though I want to plug this pc in to my tv :)
[09:05] <scguy318> Parsec300: anything that connects to 5900 on your end will go to that destination
[09:05] <open-gl> i get a permission denied how come?
[09:05] <extracted_> is any one else having problems with the theme manager in 7.10 ?
[09:05] <open-gl> i am root
[09:05] <scguy318> open-gl: what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <open-gl> i did "make"
[09:05] <scguy318> open-gl: and?
[09:06] <scguy318> open-gl: for what package?
[09:06] <jcg42> extracted_, apparently XBMC is being ported to Linux
[09:06] <scguy318> open-gl: *tarball
[09:06] <open-gl> aircrack-ng
[09:06] <nekostar> !paste
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <scguy318> open-gl: well, what are you being denied for?
[09:07] <scguy318> open-gl: like what's the relevant message?
[09:07] <Parsec300> scguy318, so, my VNC viewer will try to exit via 5900, but is tunneled through ssh to connect through the tunnel on whatever is listening on 5900 at the other end?
[09:07] <inktree> !paste
[09:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <open-gl> rm: cannot remove `tsrc/prepare.c': Permission denied
[09:07] <open-gl> rm: cannot remove `tsrc/vdbe.c': Permission denied
[09:07] <scguy318> Parsec300: no
[09:07] <open-gl> there are more
[09:07] <open-gl> i am just showing some
[09:07] <scguy318> Parsec300: well, in your forward, yes
[09:07] <scguy318> Parsec300: but that's not necessarily always the case
[09:07] <open-gl> make: *** [target_source] Error 1
[09:08] <apanda02> can anyone here help me with the grub installtion problem?
[09:08] <scguy318> open-gl: whoami == root?
[09:08] <scguy318> open-gl: hum
[09:08] <scguy318> open-gl: who owns the files that make is complaining about?
[09:08] <fotoflo> god, this ubuntu install is a disaster
[09:08] <fotoflo> i reburnt the disk
[09:08] <fotoflo> still no good
[09:09] <jesse_> are there any pieces of software that will allow two wifi laptops to connect peer-to-peer with eachother, without an access point in between?
[09:09] <scguy318> fotoflo: 7.10 is supposedly a bit rough
[09:09] <Parsec300> So, then why do I need to put 127.0.0.1 in my vncviewer to connect to the server?
[09:09] <scguy318> jesse_: ad-hoc mode
[09:09] <open-gl> i own the file
[09:09] <Parsec300> Isn't 127.0.0.1 me?
[09:09] <open-gl> i downloaded it
[09:09] <jesse_> scguy318: ad-hoc?
[09:09] <inktree> My 64-bit Ubuntu 7.10 keeps on rebooting while trying to load on startup. This problem exists for everything: trying to start Ubuntu via the Live-CD, via hard drive, via recovery mode
[09:09] <inktree> I've checked the threads on these forums and have tried what people have suggested with little success:
[09:09] <inktree> Quote:
[09:09] <inktree> 1. appending noapic nolapic nosplash to boot sequence (strange thing is this has worked a couple of times out of 50+ restarts, I managed to boot into the Live-CD with this method and I was able to install Ubuntu)
[09:09] <scguy318> Parsec300: because the local listener is on 127.0.0.1
[09:09] <inktree> 2. updating my BIOS
[09:09] <inktree> 3. appending noapic nolapic
[09:09] <inktree> 4. appending noapic
[09:09] <inktree> 5. acpi=off
[09:09] <inktree> 6. acpi=ht
[09:09] <Parsec300> ok
[09:09] <scguy318> Parsec300: that is, lo on your machine
[09:09] <inktree> My relevant computer specs:
[09:09] <inktree> Quote:
[09:09] <inktree> 64bit Ubuntu 7.10, Gigabyte P35-DS3L (with latest BIOS), Q6600, GeForce 8400GS, LSI 21320 SCSI hba, 2x Hitachi 15k300 Ultrastar hard drives.
[09:09] <inktree> During bootup I'm getting:
[09:09] <inktree> Quote:
[09:09] <scguy318> !paste
[09:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:09] <inktree> Inquiring remote APIC #2...
[09:09] <inktree> ... APIC #2 ID: failed
[09:09] <inktree> ... APIC #2 VERSION: failed
[09:09] <XiXaQ> scguy318, oh.. What does --wait do?
[09:09] <inktree> ... APIC #2 SPIV: failed
[09:09] <scguy318> !ops | inktree
[09:09] <ubotu> inktree: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[09:09] <inktree> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code
[09:09] <inktree> Booting processor 2/3 APIC 0x1
[09:10] <inktree> Not responding.
[09:10] <inktree> Inquiring remote APIC #3...
[09:10] <inktree> ... APIC #3 ID: failed
[09:10] <inktree> ... APIC #3 VERSION: failed
[09:10] <scguy318> !ops | inktree
[09:10] <riaal> how do I change the default/native group of a user?
[09:10] <inktree> ... APIC #3 SPIV: failed
[09:10] <scguy318> thanks
[09:10] <rob> haha beat you all :)
[09:10] <Seveas> not the first time inktree pastes that in here
[09:10] <Parsec300> scguy318, what does bind_address mean in the ssh man page?
[09:10] <Seveas> rob, chanserv lags like hell :/
[09:10] <Myrtti> rob: kick the ChanServ for us
[09:10] <KinGBaKeRo> hrllo
[09:10] <scguy318> jesse_: ad-hoc wireless mode, lets two wireless devices connect without AP
[09:10] <fotoflo> why ius this installation such a problem?
[09:10] <scguy318> Parsec300: sshd_config? what interface the sshd will listen on
[09:11] <ScottNailz> hey guys
[09:11]  * ScottNailz needs some help from someone who knows their Linux :)
[09:11] <jesse_> scguy318: exactly what im looking for
[09:11] <scguy318> !ask | ScottNailz
[09:11] <ubotu> ScottNailz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:11] <riaal> anyone know how to change the nativ/default group of a user?
[09:11] <fotoflo> there are md5's for all of the files... so theres nothing broken
[09:11] <ScottNailz> hehehe
[09:11] <Seveas> riaal, usermod -g
[09:11] <fotoflo> but the install keeps breaking in diffrent places
[09:11] <riaal> Seveas: thanks
[09:12] <jesse_> scguy318: google seems to be pointing to some good docs, ty
[09:12] <scguy318> jesse_: np
[09:12] <open-gl> any idea why it wont give permission to these files
[09:12] <YogSothoth> Hi
[09:12] <scguy318> open-gl: who owns those?
[09:12] <scguy318> open-gl:hello
[09:12] <scguy318> oops
[09:12] <YogSothoth> I just installed Ubuntu 7.10
[09:12] <scguy318> hello
[09:12] <Learning-Ubuntu> Update manager only shows yupdates that are related to the version of ubuntu you are using right? Im using a 64 bit install so it would only show me 64 bit updates correct?
[09:12] <ScottNailz> ok, I have a 600MHz pc - an old one. I want to use it for ubuntu + website design / editing Joomla pages (with a local server setup to test) + accessing email
[09:12] <KinGBaKeRo> hello?
[09:12] <scguy318> hello
[09:13] <YogSothoth> Is this normal that /etc/bind/ does not exist?
[09:13] <open-gl> scguy318 i downloaded those files
[09:13] <ScottNailz> - continued - can anyone tell me what version I should get and where to get it - the box has 128 MB memory
[09:13] <scguy318> YogSothoth: if BIND isn't installed sure
[09:13] <wols_> YogSothoth: why should it?
[09:13] <scguy318> open-gl: but are they owned by your user account?
[09:13] <wols_> scguy318: xubuntu or fluxbuntu
[09:13] <wols_> ScottNailz: ^^
[09:13] <wols_> ScottNailz: you are memory constrained
[09:13] <open-gl> scguy318 yes
[09:13] <wols_> !ladmp | ScottNailz
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ladmp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <scguy318> wols_: what's up?
[09:14] <wols_> !lamp | ScottNailz
[09:14] <ScottNailz> will they still run Xwindows?
[09:14] <ubotu> ScottNailz: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:14] <YogSothoth> scguy318, oh that's right. Actually I'm just looking for the file "named" or something, where IP can have named aliases
[09:14] <wols_> scguy318: you start with the same "sc" as ScottNailz  here
[09:14] <scguy318> wols_: ah
[09:14] <wols_> YogSothoth: /etc/hosts
[09:14] <thoreauputic> ScottNailz: both fluxbuntu and xubuntu run X , yes
[09:14] <YogSothoth> AH, yes
[09:14] <YogSothoth> Thanks wols_ !!
[09:15] <ScottNailz> wols_, and whats the difference between the normal dist and those?
[09:15] <scguy318> ScottNailz: different desktop environment, default packages, with an emphasis on being light
[09:15] <wols_> they don't use gnome and therefore less memory
[09:15] <wols_> gnome is a pig
[09:15] <ScottNailz> what do they use??
[09:15] <scguy318> wols_: Xubuntu = Xfce, Fluxbuntu = Fluxbox
[09:15] <wols_> xfce and fluxbox respectively
[09:15] <ScottNailz> are they easy to conf ?
[09:15] <Parsec300> scguy318, so, if I want to connect to an OSX box with that command to tunnel VNC, I need to have the VNC exit Ubuntu on 5901 for instance?
[09:15] <scguy318> ScottNailz: see above
[09:15] <scguy318> wols_: oops :)
[09:16] <wols_> ScottNailz: for what you do, it's fine
[09:16] <ScottNailz> wols_,  awesome - thanks
[09:16] <Parsec300> scguy318, then the command would be ssh -g user@83.160.40.243 -L 5901/127.0.0.1/5900
[09:16] <ScottNailz> where is the quickest iso download for Australia?
[09:16] <scguy318> Parsec300: don't need -g, but yep
[09:16] <ikonia> ScottNailz: a site close to you would probably be th quickest
[09:16] <thoreauputic> ScottNailz: depends where you live
[09:17] <scguy318> ScottNailz: use BitTorrent
[09:17] <scguy318> !torrents | ScottNailz
[09:17] <ScottNailz> Sutherland - Sydney - NSW
[09:17] <ubotu> ScottNailz: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[09:17] <extracted> When ever i Load the restricted ATI driver Compiz will not load
[09:17] <extracted> ??
[09:17] <open-gl> I saved the file at home/goldie
[09:17] <open-gl> which is me
[09:17] <ikonia> ScottNailz find a mirror that is close to your physical location
[09:17] <Parsec300> scguy318, then how would I tell vncviewer to use 5901 to exit?
[09:17] <ScottNailz> ok
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ScottNailz: probably try au.archive.ubuntu
[09:17] <scguy318> Parsec300: vncviewer host::5901
[09:17] <scguy318> Parsec300: well, no
[09:17] <scguy318> Parsec300: vncviewer 127.0.0.1:5901
[09:17] <ScottNailz> thanks guy
[09:17] <ScottNailz> guys
[09:17] <scguy318> Parsec300: no again, vncviewer 127.0.0.1::5901
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ScottNailz: with .com on the end of course :)
[09:18] <extracted> When ever i Load the restricted ATI driver Compiz will not load
[09:18] <ScottNailz> ok im gone - thanks guys
[09:18] <wols_> !xgl | extracted
[09:18] <tarelerulz> This may sound odd ,but I am wondering how to you run mplayer on console ?
[09:18] <ubotu> extracted: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[09:18] <wols_> tarelerulz: "mplayer"
[09:19] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: using the framebuffer ( e.g. vga=791)
[09:19] <Bug2000> How do I tar.gz / tar.b2 a memstick before formating?
[09:19] <Parsec300> scguy318, thanks a lot!
[09:19] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: you need to enable the framebuffer first
[09:19] <ikonia> Bug2000: tar cvf /path/to/archive/name /path/you/want/to/tar
[09:20] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: which on gutsy might be an issue ( works on feisty)
[09:20] <Bug2000> Thanks
[09:21] <tarelerulz> You just can't tell it what video type to use ?  I mean I have done it with xv before ,but that was Fedora core 4 and not Ubuntu 7.10
[09:21] <extracted> i have the compiz core installed so i still need to add xgl or aiglx ?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: the console is different - assuming you mean tty1-6
[09:21] <ikonia> extracted: did you read the link wols sent
[09:22] <XiXaQ> totem suddenly stopped responding when I viewed an xvid from my dvd. It's using 50-60% cpu and it refuses to go away. In process manager, I used terminate process, but it's been marked as living dead. What's more, because of it, I can't eject the dvd or use the dvd player. Any ideas?
[09:22] <extracted> yeah but its not verry discriptive
[09:22] <extracted> about what as going on just tells me basicly pick glx or aiglx
[09:22] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic , that is just what I mean. You read my mind ?Is there any how-to on the subject
[09:23] <Parsec300> Is it possible to connect to a computer behind a router that has NAT, but of which you know the ip address? And the router's firewall has an open port to use?
[09:23] <ikonia> extracted: that depends on your card and the way you want to do things
[09:23] <jcg42> extracted_: In case your still interested I found something like XBMC: http://elisa.fluendo.com/
[09:23] <ikonia> Parsec300: depends on the routers configuration
[09:23] <Learning-Ubuntu> Update manager only shows yupdates that are related to the version of ubuntu you are using right? Im using a 64 bit install so it would only show me 64 bit updates correct?
[09:23] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: not that I know of off the top of my head - but the first move is to enable the framebuffer in /boot/grub/menu.lst ( or specify a framebuffer code on the kernel line before boot)
[09:24] <ikonia> Learning-Ubuntu: correct
[09:24] <jizzim> happy new rears
[09:24] <ikonia> !offtopic | jizzim
[09:24] <ubotu> jizzim: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:24] <Parsec300> ikonia, without port forwarding
[09:24] <Learning-Ubuntu> ikonia, Thank you
[09:24] <riaal> in an svn repos, how do I list all the revisions and the messages that was added to them?
[09:24] <ikonia> Parsec300: again, that will depend you your routers configuration
[09:24] <jizzim> is there a open office thesauras?
[09:24] <extracted> I dont understand why just changing the driver I am using messes it up,
[09:24] <ikonia> jizzim: I believe OO uses the dictionary it was built against, eg: ispell/aspell
[09:24] <Parsec300> ikonia, how would you do it and what config?
[09:25] <ikonia> Parsec300: sorry this is support for ubuntu operating systems, not routers/network setup
[09:25] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz:  vga=788 ( 800x600 16 bit) vga=791 (1024x768 16 bit) fro example
[09:25] <jizzim> ikonia: i want the feature in word which you right click and find synonyms
[09:25] <wy> I found glx and GLcore are both in my xorg.conf. Do I need both?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: unfortunately the gutsy kernels don't play nice with framebuffer
[09:26] <fotoflo> what makes ubuntu 606 diffrent from 710?
[09:26] <Myrtti> fotoflo: older everything
[09:26] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: it's older ? *grin*
[09:26] <Myrtti> fotoflo: the version number is actually the release date
[09:27] <wols_> fotoflo: 18 months newer versions of stuff
[09:27] <Linux_> please help with wifi problem i mean i can not connect with wap encryption
[09:27] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic , you mean it will be so glichy that It would not work most the time or a bit glichy?
[09:27] <fotoflo> what about bug fixes and patches?
[09:27] <fotoflo> not applied?
[09:27] <MrGreencastle> I would say 6.06 is more stable actually
[09:27] <XiXaQ> should it really be necessary to reboot in order to kill the media player?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: it mighht not even work at all on gutsy
[09:27] <MrGreencastle> since its LTS
[09:27] <Myrtti> fotoflo: dapper has support still
[09:27] <Linux_> any one can help with wap ?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: there's a kernel bug...
[09:28] <fotoflo> ive just spent 5 hours trying to get 710 server installed on a loacal machine
[09:28] <fotoflo> no luck
[09:28] <fotoflo> so i am downloading 606
[09:28] <ikonia> jizzim: if you join #openoffice you may get a quicker and more exact answer there. I don't know Openoffice in detail
[09:28] <ikonia> XiXaQ: that should be the case
[09:28] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: I have a live CD based on feisty that does console video with mplayer -->  http://inx.mainconetent.net
[09:28] <XiXaQ> ikonia?
[09:28] <Learning-Ubuntu> jizzim, This might help also http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Spellcheck_and_Thesaurus.html#2.Thesaurus%20(Synonyms)%20|outline
[09:29] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic ,  is the ()  what vga=somenumber  mean or do I have  write that in ?
[09:29] <ikonia> XiXaQ: needing to reboot to kill a media player
[09:29] <Linux_> wifi ?
[09:29] <ikonia> Linux_: what is the problem
[09:29] <XiXaQ> ikonia, ok. Abit disappointing, but..
[09:29] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: those vga=791 or whatever fo in the menu.lst for the kernel or on the kernel line when you first boot
[09:30] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: noramlly you add them to defoptions then run update-grub
[09:30] <Linux_> ikonia: i can connect to my wireless when i disable password for network but when i enabled (wap)i can't connect
[09:30] <open-gl> in terminal how to paste with the keyboard
[09:30] <wols_> !pastewithoutx
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastewithoutx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <ikonia> Linux_: routers are normally encypted or not, not both. If you can connect without encyption I believe your router is unencypted
[09:30] <jizzim> thanks Learning-Ubuntu
[09:30] <wols_> open-gl: you could install gpm. gives you pasting with mouse in console
[09:30] <wols_> screen can also copy+paste
[09:31] <Learning-Ubuntu> jizzim, Yw
[09:31] <fotoflo> wols: can you use gpm from remote?
[09:31] <fotoflo> ssl?
[09:31] <ikonia> fotoflo: you don't need a it then
[09:31] <ikonia> fotoflo: your terminal emmulation will handle cut and paste
[09:31] <Linux_> ikonia: no i mean password like if i disable password then i can connect but if i enable wap or wep i can't connect
[09:31] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Hey, is there anyway of backing up all the programs i've installed on ubuntu?
[09:31] <fotoflo> oh right, just left click, usally
[09:32] <fotoflo> err right click
[09:32] <wols_> fotoflo: no. use screen then if you must. but if you run it remotely, what client do you use?
[09:32] <Parsec300> Linux_, that's what ikonia means. If you can connect without password, your router isn't password protected.
[09:32] <jon45454> can someone kive me a hand with a sound issue on my Lenovo T61 laptop?
[09:32] <Parsec300> Linux_, so, it's an open wireless connection. Unencrypted.
[09:32] <ikonia> Linux_ yes, as I've said. Routers are normally encypted (wep) or not (no password) not both. If you can connect without wep - then your router is not encypted so won't work WITH wep
[09:32] <ikonia> Linux_: does that make sense to you better ?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: sorry typoed the url - http://inx.maincontent.net
[09:34] <billy> i installed apache2, but connecting to localhost or 127.0.0.1 brings me nothing. any ideas? was working fine with apache2
[09:34] <billy> i installed apache2, but connecting to localhost or 127.0.0.1 brings me nothing. any ideas? was working fine with apache*
[09:34] <Linux_> ikonia: yes i understand what do you mean what i am saying is that when i manually disable pass i can connect but when i login to my netgear and enable enc or pass which i have tried web and wap ubuntu can not connect to router
[09:34] <ikonia> billy: do you still have apache installed ?
[09:34] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic ,  I get you have to put vga=number  ,but it don't have that on my recover boot. I am lost on how you  tell it to use frambuffering
[09:34] <billy> as far as i know, no
[09:35] <ikonia> billy: is apache2 running ?
[09:35] <Linux_> ikonia: i dont say both in one time i mean i have tried both ,one time with pass other without pass and when it is with out pass it connect but when it is with pass i cant
[09:35] <billy> ikonia, is there a way to check its status? i tried running sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:35] <Linux_> ikonia: does it make sense now?
[09:35] <ikonia> Linux_: apologies, I'm not sure I understand. If you have tried once with passwords and once without - then the router is not encypted or are you changing the config of the router inbetween
[09:35] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: the recovery boot doesn't use it - you need to add it on the defoptions line in  /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run  sudo update-grub, then pick your usual kernel on boot
[09:35] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic, reason I ask is the recovery boot must use frame buffering  I would thin
[09:36] <ikonia> billy: ok - "sudo apache2ctl configtest"
[09:36] <ikonia> billy: what does that give you
[09:36] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: no it doesn't :)
[09:36] <billy> Syntax OK
[09:36] <Linux_> ikonia: yes i am changing it to see the resualt when i config the router i mean disable pass it connect but with out pass there is no security anyone can connect
[09:36] <ikonia> billy: ok - and if you "telnet 127.0.0.1 80" what happens ?
[09:37] <billy> refused
[09:37] <ikonia> Linux_: ok - so when you enable wpa on the router and then try wpa on the card at the same tim it doesn't work yes/no
[09:37] <Linux_> ikonia: i have done that to see if wifi work at all or no and i see without pass it work
[09:37] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: note that if you are using a gutsy kernel, enabling the framebuffer may result in a completely blank set of tty vitual terminals
[09:37] <ikonia> billy: ps -ef | grep http
[09:37] <thoreauputic> *virtual
[09:37] <Linux_> ikonia: yes it doesnt work
[09:37] <billy> billy     6058  5734  0 09:37 pts/0    00:00:00 grep http
[09:37] <ikonia> Linux_: what encyption are you trying
[09:37] <ikonia> billy: it's not started
[09:37] <ikonia> billy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[09:37] <Linux_> wap-psk
[09:37] <billy> i did that
[09:37] <ikonia> billy: try it again
[09:38] <Linux_> and i have installed wpa-supplicant as well
[09:38] <ikonia> Linux_: what card are you using, does it require ndiswrappers ?
[09:38] <billy> no luck... ikonia , should i be getting a confirmation from the terminal, as im not?
[09:38] <wols_> Linux_: what encryption did you set on the router? WEP is pretty much useless. WPA is better but not as easy to setup
[09:38] <ikonia> billy: sudo apache2ctl start
[09:38] <Linux_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[09:38] <sandr-> 'useless' depends
[09:39] <billy> aha
[09:39] <billy> thanks ikonia  :
[09:39] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: I know this stuff becuase I have made the live CD I mentioned, and I am sticking to feisty because of the bug with framebuffer
[09:39] <billy> :)
[09:39] <sandr-> if it's just so your (amateur) neighbours won't connect to your network wep's ok
[09:39] <Linux_> i have use the explanation in this page and have done till step 3
[09:39] <ikonia> billy: there is something wrong with your startup script, are you sure your doing /etc/init.d/apache2 start rather than /etc/init.d/apache start
[09:39] <billy> positive
[09:39] <wols_> sandr-: for that you can spare yourself the hassle and use mac filtering
[09:39] <Linux_> ikonia: wap is working with my xp and vista
[09:39] <Linux_> but not with ubuntu
[09:40] <ikonia> Linux_: xp and vista doesn't matter
[09:40] <billy> is there anywhere to check? i think its still set to the apache settings rather than apache2 maybe?
[09:40] <ikonia> Linux_: what network card do you have
[09:40] <wols_> Linux_: what wlan driver?
[09:40] <finn> hi will ubuntu server work with dual P3 processors?
[09:40] <wols_> billy: dpkg -l |grep apache
[09:40] <ikonia> billy: if the script is apache2 then it's starting apache2 not 1
[09:40] <wols_> finn: will work fine
[09:40] <ikonia> finn: sure
[09:40] <finn> ok thanks
[09:40] <Linux_> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[09:40] <Linux_> sorry
[09:40] <Linux_> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:40] <ikonia> Linux_: ok, so its the broadcom card. Are you using the ndiswrapper driver for it or not ?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !bcm43xx
[09:41] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[09:41] <wols_> Linux_: ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?
[09:41] <billy> hmm
[09:41] <billy> apache-common seems old?
[09:41] <billy> 1.3....
[09:41] <ikonia> billy: if it's referencing 1 then that is a problem
[09:41] <wols_> apache-common != apache2-common
[09:41] <Linux_> ikonia: i dont know what is ndiswrpper
[09:41] <Sonja> how do i completely uninstall firefox, then reinstall it from scratch?
[09:41] <wols_> Linux_: lsmod |grep bcm
[09:41] <ikonia> Linux_: did you install a package called ndiswrapper
[09:41] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic  you mean the  option at the end of the kernel line  like splash ? where you add vga=number
[09:41] <Linux_> wols: i use bcm4318
[09:41] <wols_> !purge | Sonja
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: yes
[09:41] <ikonia> Sonja: you don't as a lot of applications depend on firefox
[09:42] <ikonia> Sonja: why do you want to re-install it
[09:42] <Sonja> because it's very messy
[09:42] <Sonja> buggy
[09:42] <billy> ikonia, any obvious ways to fix?
[09:42] <Linux_> ikonia: no i have just installed package called bcm4318
[09:42] <wols_> Linux_: I asked if you use ndiswrapper or bcm43xx. there is no driver named "bcm4318"
[09:42] <Sonja> i'm due for a full uninstall and reinstall
[09:42] <ikonia> Sonja: re-installing it won't fix that
[09:42] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: be warned -as I said, it may not even work with gutsy
[09:42] <billy> i tried to install apache2.2-common but says i already have the latest version :\
[09:42] <ikonia> Linux_: there is no package that I'm aware of called bcm4318
[09:42] <Sonja> can i reinstall the latest version of firefox on top of my current install then?
[09:42] <finn> is there a problem with ubuntu affecting hard drive lifetimes yet?
[09:42] <Sonja> and replace all files
[09:42] <Linux_> wols_: sorry i have done all the instruction from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[09:42] <wols_> billy: I gave you a command. what does it say
[09:43] <ikonia> Sonja: you can't install the latest version, only the version that is in the ubuntu repo's - that you already have
[09:43] <wols_> Sonja: delete your firefox settings in your ~. often helps
[09:43] <open-gl> what is error 127
[09:43] <wols_> open-gl: error 12 by WHAT?
[09:43] <Linux_> wols_: and i just go till step 3 which means i have used bcm
[09:43] <ikonia> open-gl: error 127 in what ? what are you doing
[09:43] <billy> wols_, i read that
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Linux_: I think bsm4318 may not support wpa
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Linux_: umm bcam*
[09:43] <thoreauputic> bah
[09:43] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic, if it don't work then that is cool with me. I will just go into my recovery one and delete the lines
[09:43] <ikonia> billy: your /etc/init.d/apache2 script is referencing apache-common ?
[09:43] <billy> i said, i tried to install apache2.2-common, but i supposedly already have the latest version
[09:43] <billy> yes
[09:43] <Sonja> ikonia:  i can't install the latest beta to overwrite the one i have on my ubuntu?
[09:44] <open-gl> I did make and got
[09:44] <ikonia> billy: can you paste your apache2 script into a pastebin
[09:44] <open-gl> tclsh ./tool/mksqlite3c.tcl
[09:44] <open-gl> make: tclsh: Command not found
[09:44] <open-gl> make: *** [sqlite3.c] Error 127
[09:44] <billy> ikonia, yes, i have the latest version, 2.2, but apache2 is referencing apache-common
[09:44] <ikonia> open-gl: the issue is pretty clear, your missing the tclsh shell (tcl)
[09:44] <billy> lol, ikonia , i would, if i knew how to read the apache2 script
[09:44] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: if you really want to get it working, you might need a feisty kernel or a custom kernel, or an edit to your initramfs
[09:44] <ikonia> billy: can you paste the script please.
[09:44] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic ,  I mean use my recovery one to edit the menu.lst file for my main install
[09:44] <billy> conf.d?
[09:44] <ikonia> billy: you don't know how to read the script ?
[09:44] <billy> oh sorry
[09:44] <billy> apache2.confg
[09:44] <ikonia> no?
[09:44] <ikonia> apache2.conf ?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: yes, I understood
[09:44] <billy> yes i can read it, my bad, i menat i didnt know where it was
[09:45] <ikonia> billy: what are you talking about.
[09:45] <ikonia> billy: I've asked you 3 times - /etc/init.d/apache2
[09:45] <open-gl> I did ./configure --disable-tcl
[09:45] <billy> yeah sorry
[09:45] <Linux_> ikonia: it can recogniz that i use wap and network manager ask for wap password and i type it in and it ask again and again and never connect
[09:45] <ikonia> billy: tell you what, show me this "ls -la /etc/init.d/apache*"
[09:45] <open-gl> could that be the problem
[09:45] <DragonSpirit> oddly I can't seem to find cinelerra in the ubuntu repositories
[09:45] <ikonia> billy: put it in a pastebin
[09:45] <ikonia> Linux_: apologies, I'm ignoring you now as your ignoring the questions I keep asking you and just saying random things to me
[09:46] <Linux_> ikonia: sorry if i have done that what was ur question ?
[09:46] <billy> http://www.privatepaste.com/22cNmFUYih
[09:46] <_infurnus_> anybody having troubles resolving the website?
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Linux_: the likely explanation is that the bcm43xx module does not yet support wap
[09:46] <wuqti[n]> anyone herd of linux on  CELL PHONE?
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Linux_: for your card
[09:46] <ikonia> _infurnus_ the comst common problem will be your dns settings.
[09:46] <blitz_x> Linux__ depending on your router, it may turn your password into an encrypted line... i just got a new router an it did that crap.. you have to get into your  router settings and copy paste or type it out if that is the case
[09:46] <_infurnus_> just ubuntu
[09:46] <Linux_> thanks thoreauputic
[09:46] <thoreauputic> umm s/wap/wpa
[09:46] <ikonia> wuqti[n]: this is ubuntu support questions only, you may get a better chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <ikonia> _infurnus_: just one website is failing - thats it ?
[09:47] <_infurnus_> just ubuntus website
[09:47] <Linux_> blitz_x: i have done that as well
[09:47] <_infurnus_> immediate page not found
[09:47] <ikonia> billy: thats your apache config file - not your startup script
[09:47] <_infurnus_> any other site just fine
[09:47] <Linux_> any help?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> Linux_: you might want to try using ndiswrapper instead of bcm43xx
[09:47] <ikonia> billy: I gave you the exact path to the script nad you've still pasted the wrong file
[09:47] <ikonia> _infurnus_: your fine with others
[09:48] <Dusti[n]> yeah i really only mess with ubuntu but ill try tht ty
[09:48] <_infurnus_> ikonia yeah
[09:48] <billy> bare with me
[09:48] <ikonia> _infurnus_: working solid for me
[09:48] <Linux_> thoreauputic: what is ndiswrapper please?
[09:48] <_infurnus_> kk thx ikonia
[09:48] <thoreauputic> !ndiswrapper | Linux_
[09:48] <ubotu> Linux_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:49] <Linux_> thoreauputic: thank i am just going to try it
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Linux_: ndiswrapper lets you use windows drivers with wifi cards ( some anyway)
[09:49] <Linux_> thoreauputic: i will try it and see the result thanks
[09:49] <trollboy> I'm having some issues getting postgres running
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Linux_: for ndiswrapper to work, you will need to purge all trace of bsm43xx
[09:49] <ikonia> trollboy: ok, can you provide a little detail please.
[09:49] <trollboy> I can't connect to it from outside local host
[09:50] <thoreauputic> *bcm
[09:50] <trollboy> Yes, the ODBC driver is saying connection refused
[09:50] <Linux_> thoreauputic: i got the instruction how to do it
[09:50] <ikonia> trollboy: so you can connect from localhost, but not from any machine thats not the same physical host
[09:50] <trollboy> I installed the stock ubuntu package for postgres 8-2
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Linux_: OK
[09:50] <trollboy> Correct
[09:50] <ikonia> trollboy: ok - that seems reasonable.
[09:51] <trollboy> How do I enable outside connections?
[09:51] <ikonia> trollboy: just having a little look if it's likley to be a server restriction or a grant restriction in the same style as mysql
[09:52] <trollboy> I've googled and rtfm'd a bit and modified my pg_hba.conf
[09:52] <trollboy> no love though
[09:52] <billy> ikonia,  http://www.privatepaste.com/0dH2HrrfVa
[09:52] <billy> sorry it took a while
[09:52] <Micc> after I use grouping/tabbing of windows things get funny. When I start new apps they show up just blank, I see the window border but only black in the content area, but it still works, mouse cursor changes, I can click on things, just can't see anything.
[09:52] <ikonia> trollboy: have you looked at poastgresql.conf ?
[09:53] <Micc> It seems to only happen after I do grouping/tabbing, but I could be wrong.
[09:53] <MrGreencastle> Micc, you could ask in the #compiz-fusion channel of irc.freenode.net
[09:53] <Micc> oh, I'm talking about grouping/tabbing in compiz BTW.
[09:54] <ikonia> billy: now that apache is running, please try doing a sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[09:54] <Micc> good idea, thanks, didn't know there was a whole channel for them.
[09:54] <MrGreencastle> Micc, no problem
[09:54] <billy> works fine
[09:54] <tarelerulz> Thoreauputic , It did just what you said it would .  That is cool I am back
[09:54] <billy> wait
[09:54] <ikonia> billy: ok, so that did stop apache2 ok (have you tested it)
[09:54] <billy> no, it doesnt, sorry
[09:54] <tarelerulz> They where not black ,but  scrambled
[09:54] <billy> says its stopping it, but localhost still there
[09:55] <ikonia> billy: please make sure you check things before giving information
[09:55] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: you mean it was blank ?
[09:55] <billy> ahh, ikonia , wait
[09:55] <billy> more to it
[09:55] <ikonia> billy: ok - is that cache
[09:55] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: it's an annoying bug
[09:55] <billy> now localhost is taking me to my default page, whilst 127.0.0.1 - page not found
[09:55] <Chani> does anyone off the top of their head know what the NetworkManager packages might be called? all I can find with aptitude is knetworkmanager, and I want -devel stuff
[09:55] <tarelerulz> thorauputic, I mean it had color on it ,but I could not make out anything  . I was all mixed up.
[09:55] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: and as far as I can see it has not yet been fixed in hardy either
[09:56] <ikonia> billy: ping localhost, see what ip it resolves to
[09:56] <Chani> n/m. network-manager
[09:56]  * SiSMiC is away: Occupé
[09:56] <Chani> silly dash.
[09:56] <ikonia> !away > simple
[09:56] <ikonia> oops
[09:56] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: I think it depends on which vid card you have - mine is an nVidia fx 5500
[09:56] <tarelerulz> It is all good with me .  I will work on it sometime.  Just thought it might be fun.
[09:56] <billy> 127.0.0.1, ikonia
[09:56] <ikonia> !away | SiSMiC
[09:56] <ubotu> SiSMiC: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[09:56] <ikonia> ughhh sorry
[09:57] <ikonia> !away > SiSMiC
[09:57] <ikonia> billy: clear your browsers cache and check it again
[09:57] <tarelerulz> I have a  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[09:58] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: right - so the result was different, but still unusable ... :(
[09:58] <Chani> ok, second question: if aptitude says I've already got network-manager-dev installed and kde4 is telling me I don't, who do I believe?
[09:58] <ikonia> Chani what is the error your getting - exactly please.
[09:58] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic , yes , I could not use it . oh man you have long name haha
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: apparently the Ubuntu kernel devs don't consider the framebuffer important...
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz:  thor <tab> :)
[09:59] <billy> ikonia, sorry, but how do u do that in ubuntu? (or ff for that matter)
[09:59] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic:  Thanks man , I  thought that just worked in command line .
[09:59] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: :)
[10:00] <ikonia> billy: search your firefox settings for the "clear cache" or "clear cached files" option
[10:00] <Chani> ikonia: not exactly an error, cmake's reporting it as a missing optional package.  + NetworkManager (any version): NetworkManager is a daemon for user controlled networking <http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager>
[10:00] <Parsec300> Anybody have newsleecher working with WINE?
[10:00] <ikonia> Chani: the exact error is (any version) it actually say's that
[10:00] <Chani> ikonia: I'll figure it out myself; kinda offftopic for here
[10:00] <finn> hi my question wasn
[10:00] <finn> answered yet
[10:00] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic:  I take you use console a lot ?
[10:00] <ikonia> finn: the answer is "no there isn't"
[10:01] <wols_> finn: what kind of problem should there be? it's the same linux code as with any other linux
[10:01] <finn> oh you remember the question? :P
[10:01] <billy> ikonia, that sorted out the localhost problem thanks
[10:01] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: well, I have made a live CD without X , so yes :)
[10:01] <ikonia> billy: cool
[10:01] <billy> ikonia, just getting page not found now
[10:01] <ikonia> billy: thats more like it
[10:01] <billy> noting that the server is down
[10:01] <finn> well there was a lot of concern about ubuntu damaging hard drives
[10:01] <ikonia> billy: excellent, so now "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[10:01] <ikonia> finn: no there wasn't.
[10:02] <ikonia> finn: there was a comment on a kernel bug about a specific laptop drive
[10:02] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: I use X as well, of course :)
[10:02] <finn> there is a long thread about it in the forum.......
[10:02] <billy> ikonia,  nay, that doesnt work
[10:02] <ikonia> finn: that is covered in bugzilla
[10:02] <finn> ohh only for laptop drives?
[10:02] <billy> however i found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33359
[10:03] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic:  I have been working on my command line action . I still just know the basics .  Still need a gui for most of my stuff ,but I hope to get to where I don't.
[10:03] <ikonia> billy: billy that looks interesting, just reading
[10:03] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: this is what my INX Cd is for - you might enjoy it
[10:03] <ikonia> billy: I assume you're going to try that fix
[10:04] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: it has tutorials etc. :)
[10:04] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic: Does it have mplayer
[10:04] <billy> well ikonia, it not starting up at boot up doesnt bother me too me... what is bothering me is it referencing to apache-common rather than apache2.2-common
[10:04] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: yes indeed
[10:04] <ikonia> billy: I can't see anything refering to apache-common ?
[10:04] <ikonia> billy: there is a fix in that thread
[10:05] <billy> yeah not in that thread..
[10:05] <ikonia> billy: and the problem is explained
[10:05] <t3hwiz0r1> rawr?!
[10:05] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: currently it has no hard drive installer though
[10:05] <tarelerulz> Don't get me wrong I like  Ubuntu ,but I want some that don't have so much of it done for you. it makes it harder to strip away stuff.  I might try gentoo for that reason
[10:05] <ikonia> billy: why do you keep talking about apache-common, what makes you think that is the problem
[10:05] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: working on that at the moment...
[10:05] <ikonia> billy: are you going to try the fix in that forum thread
[10:05] <billy> ikonia, i dont think its THE problem,  but a problem
[10:06] <billy> ikonia, yes
[10:06] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: you can do a no-X command line install of Ubuntu, you know
[10:06] <ikonia> billy: why do you not think it is THE problem, that forum thread explains it as a comomon issue
[10:06] <GNU\colossus> how can i prevent ubuntu 7.10 from loading any (or any specific) SCSI module(s) at bootup?
[10:06] <ikonia> !blacklist | GNU\colossus
[10:06] <ubotu> GNU\colossus: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[10:07] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic:  I did not know that .
[10:07] <GNU\colossus> ikonia: I need a kernel paramter, since the kernel won'tboot with SCSI enabled.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> GNU\colossus:  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:07] <Seeb> &part
[10:07] <billy> okay, ikonia, NO_START is already set to 0 :)
[10:07] <Linux_> thoreauputic: it doesnt work for me
[10:08] <Nicolaidis> help with cairo-dock!
[10:08] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: you do a CLI install fromt the "alternate" CD
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Linux_: sorry to hear that
[10:08] <Linux_> thoreauputic: when in realize in the code they use wlan0 but my wireless card name is eth2
[10:08] <GNU\colossus> thoreauputic: I'm educated about modprobe and its config files, however, I cannot get the kernel to boot at all
[10:08] <thoreauputic> Linux_: that's normal - mine is eth1
[10:08] <Linux_> thoreauputic: any way thanks for help
[10:08] <GNU\colossus> "noscsi" in the kernel command line has no apparent effect
[10:09] <Linux_> thoreauputic: is there any way to change the name?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> GNU\colossus: ah, that's different then...
[10:09] <ikonia> GNU\colossus: thats an old parameter
[10:09] <GNU\colossus> ikonia: well, can you tell me the new one with equivalent functionality? ;)
[10:09] <tarelerulz> thoreauputic:  you mean you install it or not install X
[10:09] <thoreauputic> Linux_: I haven't used ndiswrapper - try googling your error messages
[10:09] <ikonia> GNU\colossus: not off the top of my head
[10:09] <fotoflo> if i wanna be able to ssh into an ubuntu server i need to install OpenSSH, right?
[10:10] <Linux_> thoreauputic: no i mean change my interfacer name is it possible to change my interface name?
[10:10] <ikonia> fotoflo: openssh-server for the server
[10:10] <thoreauputic> tarelerulz: you can install a basic commandline Ubuntu from the "alternate" CD
[10:10] <thoreauputic> Linux_: yes, but why?
[10:10] <Linux_> thoreauputic: i just wanna learn it is there any command or source that i can use pleasE?
[10:11] <fotoflo> ikonia: thanks
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Linux_: the interface name is set in /etc/network/interfaces - but it needs to exist :)
[10:12] <Linux_> thoreauputic: then how could i change it?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> Linux_: a busy IRC channel is probably not the best place to learn that kind of thing, to be honest :)
[10:12] <thoreauputic> Linux_: you shouldn't need to change it at all
[10:13] <Sonja> i can't open firefox... it says segmentation fault, core dumped
[10:13] <Sonja> ;_;
[10:13] <Linux_> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[10:13] <Sonja> halp?
[10:13] <ikonia> Sonja: have you changed firefox as you said you where going to
[10:13] <Sonja> yes
[10:13] <thoreauputic> Linux_: the interface name ( eth0 eth2 etc) can be anything really ( fred, blurp whatever) but it won't work unless it is created, which is kind of an advanced topic...
[10:13] <Sonja> blitz_x helped me remove it completely and then reinstall it
[10:13] <ikonia> Sonja: what did you do ?
[10:14] <ikonia> Sonja: you should not have been able to remove it as gnome depends on it
[10:14] <Sonja> did i break gnome?
[10:14] <ikonia> I didn't say that
[10:14] <Linux_> thoreauputic: i understand what do u mean thanks for ur help
[10:14] <Sonja> i didn't say you did
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Linux_: no worries :)
[10:14] <blitz_x> what exactly is a "segmentation Fault"?
[10:14] <ikonia> blitz_x: a fatal error
[10:14] <Linux_> :)
[10:15] <ikonia> blitz_x: how did you tell him to remove firefox
[10:15] <Sonja> i'm a girl
[10:15] <fotoflo> ikonia: thanks!
[10:15] <ikonia> Sonja: apologies
[10:15] <p1erre> hallo
[10:15] <Sonja> i hope we can reinstall ff
[10:16] <ikonia> blitz_x: how did you tell Sonja to remove firefox
[10:16] <Sonja> in synaptic
[10:16] <Sonja> i rightclicked firefox and uninstalled completely
[10:16] <fotoflo> how do i tell eth0 that it shouldnt ever request a new IP address from the DHCP server?
[10:18] <fotoflo> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:18] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: you could turn off the dhcp server and assign static addresses ( but that proably isn't what you want)
[10:18] <fotoflo> change that dhcp to 192.168.x.x ?\
[10:18] <wols_> Sonja: on irc, everyone is a fat, balding, 50 year old fbi agent or a dog. your choice which of the two you want to be
[10:18] <Sonja> i think my programs are installed on a separate partition
[10:18] <ikonia> Sonja: I advised you not to do that is it would change nothing
[10:18] <fotoflo> in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: this is a case where  "man interfaces" would probably help :)
[10:19] <Sonja> well i did reinstall firefox but it's giving me that error
[10:20] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: that wasn't meant as a "rtfm" - I really think it would help you
[10:20] <fotoflo> thanks
[10:20] <extracted> I have some Icons that I would like to use to replace some of the default icons such as the ubuntu icon on the application bar how would i go about doing that ?
[10:20] <fotoflo> yeah it will
[10:21] <susie> m
[10:21] <ikonia> Sonja: 1.) firefox should not have been re-installed, I told you that would not fix anything and can cause problems 2.) there is something more wrong with your machine.
[10:21] <fotoflo> hm
[10:21] <susie> how do you install an update for firefox?
[10:21] <Sonja> ikonia:  what do you recommend i do?
[10:21] <ikonia> susie: ubuntu will tell you when updates are available
[10:21] <fotoflo> every time i ssh into the server, theres about a 30 second delay between the login prompt and the pass prompt
[10:21] <ikonia> Sonja: re-install your machine.
[10:21] <Sonja> i followed blitz_x's advice
[10:21] <fotoflo> then its superfast
[10:22] <finn> question: I heard that automatix breaks things in ubuntu? should I install it?
[10:22] <erUSUL> !automatix
[10:22] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:22] <tkooda> anyone know how to get audio back on a syste76 GAZV4 after upgrading to gutsy?  -I've re-installed the system76-driver package and used it to install the alsa-modules again, but still no luck.  (intel 82801G audio chipset)
[10:22] <Sonja> how do i reinstall my machine?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> finn: no
[10:22] <susie> how do you install firefox from a downloaded package?
[10:22] <ikonia> Sonja: that wasn't the best advice to follow - and you shouldn't have followed it when myself and wols_ suggested you don't do it and provided a different option
[10:22] <Sonja> ok then let me try your option ikonia
[10:22] <ikonia> Sonja: you get the install cd boot from it and click "install"
[10:22] <ikonia> Sonja: that option has now gone
[10:22] <Sonja> so i have to reinstall ubuntu from scratch??
[10:23] <billy> why does the short key for the terminal not work for? ie ctrl + alt + f4 for terminal?
[10:23] <Sonja> will i lose any of my stuff?
[10:23] <ikonia> susie: ubuntu will update you with a popup saying "updates available" when updates are availalbe
[10:23] <ikonia> Sonja: yes ifyou've not backed up
[10:23] <Sonja> that sounds pretty drastic when only FF needs to be installed
[10:23] <WEW> If I do ./configure and make on the source of a file, will it change anything on my system? I won't do make install.. This is just for testing something
[10:23] <ikonia> Sonja: firefox doesn't need to be re-installed, I tried to tell you that
[10:24] <ikonia> WEW: it will build a package int he source dir
[10:24] <Sonja> i'm sorry i listened to blitz_x instead of you. i didn't know any better, and i guess he didn't either.
[10:24] <ikonia> Sonja: myself and wols told you, you didn't want to listen, now your in a mess.
[10:24] <WEW> ikonia: Okay, you mean the directory where I downloaded the source files to.. Nothing else will be changed? My system will be as it is?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> WEW: as long as you don't "install" you will just have a deletable directory containing the binary and source etc.
[10:24] <ikonia> WEW: correct
[10:25] <WEW> cool
[10:26] <Sonja> ikonia: ok thanks for the help. i'll get my friend to help reinstall ubuntu. can you summarize what i should tel her so she knows why and what she needs to do?
[10:26] <WEW> ikonia: And how do I know if I need to do ./configure or not or do make right away
[10:26] <Sonja> ubuntu is so delicate eh
[10:26] <Sonja> you uninstall a web browser and suddenly you have to reinstall the whoel OS
[10:26] <WEW> There is no configure file in this case
[10:26] <thoreauputic> WEW: read the README and/or INSTALL files :)
[10:26] <ikonia> Sonja put in install cdrom, boot install cdrom, click install
[10:26] <ikonia> Sonja: ubuntu is not delicate
[10:26] <Sonja> then why do i have to reinstall it? :)
[10:26] <blitz_x> Sonja: I apoligize, this is news to me as well
[10:27] <ikonia> WEW not all software uses configure
[10:27] <ikonia> Sonja: because you messed it up
[10:27] <tkooda> have other people lost their sound when upgrading to gutsy?
[10:27] <WEW> Ah okay
[10:27] <WEW> Hm, not sure.. I was a bit hesitant to upgrade, so I convinced myself to format and do a fresh install
[10:27] <WEW> :[
[10:28] <fotoflo> http://pastebin.com/m14d010a4 \
[10:28] <fotoflo> <--- does this look appropriate?
[10:28] <Sonja> can somebody give me the link to the .torrent file for the latest ubuntu 32 bit?
[10:28] <Sonja> by web browser is dead
[10:28] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: you might want to add a gateway line
[10:30] <fotoflo> thoreauputic: that sounds right
[10:30] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: I think you need a network line too - ie. something like 192.168.0.0
[10:30] <thoreauputic> or 10.0.0.0 etc.
[10:30] <fotoflo> a network line?
[10:31] <wols_> fotoflo: not really
[10:31] <Sonja> ikonia:  i did not mess it up. i only uninstalled a web browser to reinstall it. but now i know that ubuntu breaks without firefox
[10:31] <WEW> Sonja: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:31] <wols_> fotoflo: is this the only interface you have?
[10:31] <Sonja> thanks WEW
[10:31] <wols_> Sonja: it doesn't break
[10:31] <wols_> Sonja: you can (re)install firefox easiyl
[10:31] <Sonja> wol_ cool, show me how
[10:31] <wols_> apt-get install firefox
[10:31] <Sonja> that would be easier
[10:31] <Sonja> ok
[10:31] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: might not be needed in 2.6 kernels - it's a long time since I did a static config :)
[10:32] <fotoflo> hmm it seems to be working like this
[10:32] <fotoflo> but no dns
[10:32] <Sonja> ikonia might get mad at us though
[10:32] <wols_> thoreauputic: you need address, netmask, possibly gateway and broadcast. that's it
[10:32] <ikonia> wols_: I think you've missed a bit, her box is segfaulting
[10:32] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: you need a populate /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <ikonia> wols_: re-installing firefox isn't the problem
[10:32] <wols_> ikonia: debsums
[10:33] <ikonia> wols_: nah, doubt it
[10:33] <wols_> that might tell you what is broken but only might
[10:33] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: the catch is that dhcp likes to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf
[10:33] <fotoflo> oh thats good!
[10:33] <fotoflo> its already populated
[10:33] <Sonja> wols_: it says segmentation fault, core dumped, when i try to open FF
[10:33] <fotoflo> i think i need the gateway
[10:33] <ikonia> wols_: too much effort to trouble shoot in this specific situation
[10:33] <fotoflo> do i need broadcast?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> fotoflo: the gateway might help, yes :)
[10:33] <fotoflo> whats a default broadcast?
[10:33] <wols_> fotoflo: is it the only network interface you have?
[10:33] <wols_> fotoflo: what is your set IP?
[10:34] <luddite> does anyone know how to make a multi screen shot image of a video
[10:34] <Liquid> Sonja you could use opera if reinstalling doesn't work that might get you back on the web for now
[10:34] <Sonja> good idea liquid
[10:35] <luddite> hi - i have a video and want to make multi screen shots of it - any progs that can do this
[10:36] <GNU\colossus> mplayer can
[10:36] <GNU\colossus> you can automate the process in slave mode
[10:36] <Sonja> wols_: it says segmentation fault, core dumped, when i try to open FF
[10:36] <Arelis> Hi all. I'm trying to play a game via WINE, named SilkRoad online. But characters look very still and stiff, like this:  img229.imageshack.us/img229/7539/lol01qa4.png . The solution to that is turning on vertex shaders, but when I do that, my game crashes the moment it shows intensive graphics. But not only in WINE, in native Linux games (such as Nexuiz) too. I'm using the propietary ATI Radeon drivers, (fglrx).
[10:36] <Arelis> My videocard is an ATI Radeon 9600. Can anybody help me with this?
[10:36] <GNU\colossus> luddite: http://gnulords.org/~colo/tmp/mkvidscreens.sh
[10:36] <luddite> great - thanks. trying now
[10:38] <luddite> GNU\colossus is its use just file.sh in.avi out.jpg?
[10:38] <mEck0> Hi! is there a deb for kde4 or another relatively easy way to install kde4?
[10:39] <GNU\colossus> luddite: nope, it's somewhat more quick and dirty. just issue "mkvidscreens.sh yourvideofile", and you'll get a directory named after the video file with some screenshots in it
[10:39] <luddite> brilliant - doesnt it stick them together?
[10:40] <GNU\colossus> nope, but that's easily done using imagemagick
[10:40] <luddite> ok -i have to install that now
[10:40] <luddite> thanks
[10:40] <GNU\colossus> you're welcome
[10:40] <luddite> there is a script that does both and also requiers imagemagick
[10:41] <luddite> i was trying to avoid installing it
[10:41] <GNU\colossus> you mean avoid imagemagick?
[10:41] <GNU\colossus> that's tricky if you want to automatically glue images together
[10:41] <luddite> yes
[10:41] <luddite> http://p.outlyer.net/vcs/
[10:41] <GNU\colossus> (if doable at all)
[10:41] <luddite> check ^^
[10:41] <tarelerulz> I would I know if I could play a clip the is rip in x264 ?
[10:42] <wols_> "codecs
[10:42] <wols_> !codecs
[10:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <fotoflo> after editing resolv.conf do i have to refresh anything?
[10:43] <DiCha_cHa-Cha> unto
[10:43] <wols_> fotoflo: no
[10:43] <jf> Quick way to list the installed packages with cmdline? Is there a directory like FreeBSD /var/db/pkg/ somewhere? :)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> jf:  dpkg -l | less  <-- there are lots :)
[10:44] <wy> Is tracker ever useful? It seems to have taken me a lot of disk space
[10:44] <wols_> jf: there is, but you should use dpkg -l |grep ^ii or aptitude search ~i
[10:45] <jf> Ok, thanks.
[10:47] <pl_ice> hey, whats a good comiler GUI C/C++ got Anjuta but new version is changed and it 'makes me cry' big time...
[10:47] <jf> 1414 packages, puuh. And this isen't a old install IMHO.
[10:48] <wols_> pl_ice: main ones would be anjutah, kdevelop or eclipse I guess
[10:48] <pl_ice> yeh ,eclipse, forgot that one :)
[10:48] <x_zeuss> what is wrong with firefox lately? it just doesn't open
[10:48] <wols_> pl_ice: stuff like X itself alone is 46 packages. in BSD this would be only one
[10:49] <pl_ice> i have tried BabyDevelop its a small one, but didn't comile correctly
[10:49] <pl_ice> ok
[10:49] <wols_> pl_ice: sorry, that last one was for jf
[10:50] <Zero> hey people
[10:50] <Zero> i need help
[10:50] <x_zeuss> wtf? are there some wrong updates lately? because firefox doesn't open at all, synaptic closes after i search a program...
[10:50] <white_eagle> can I get the boot screen to work? You know the ubuntu logo and the orange loading bar never show up at me!?
[10:50] <Zero> i tried to use a matrix screensaver as background
[10:50] <Zero> and now i have no icons :S
[10:51] <pl_ice> yeh
[10:51] <Zero> can anyone help me get the icons back?
[10:52] <jf> wols_: No it's just as many in BSD.
[10:52] <x_zeuss> ubuntu is really crazy lately
[10:52] <khermans> Zero, what do you mean?
[10:52] <khermans> Zero, may try disabling Compiz
[10:52] <Zero> i have desktop background
[10:52] <Zero> without icons
[10:52] <vincenz> Hello
[10:52] <white_eagle> how can you setup the screen saver as background?
[10:52] <white_eagle> !hi | vincenz
[10:52] <ubotu> vincenz: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:52] <vincenz> I have reinstalled my system recently, and for some reason I can't see the printers anymore at work
[10:53]  * vincenz is using gutsy
[10:53]  * white_eagle doesn't have a printer :(
[10:53] <luddite> GNU\colossus : do you know how to add a script to bash?
[10:53] <Zero> khermans I disabled it
[10:53] <khermans> vincenz, fresh install or install OVER non formatted partition?
[10:53] <Zero> still no icons
[10:53] <vincenz> khermans: fresh install
[10:53] <khermans> Zero, are icons present in you ~/Desktop folder?
[10:53] <GNU\colossus> luddite: I assume you mean how you can execute it without specifying the path to it?
[10:54] <khermans> vincenz, what type of printers?
[10:54] <vincenz> khermans: I switched hds, had gutsy as well before
[10:54] <Zero> yeah they are there
[10:54] <vincenz> khermans: all kinds, we have like several hundred printers here
[10:54] <Zero> should i copy?
[10:54] <vincenz> They used to all show up in my cupsys when I tried to print
[10:54] <khermans> Zero, if you log out and back in, does that solve it?
[10:55] <Zero> i restarted
[10:55] <xbris> can anyone explain to me what the error skge 000:00:08:0: pci error cmd=0x7 status=0x82b0 that comes up on boot means? and any way i could get to repairing it
[10:55] <Zero> nothing changed
[10:55] <khermans> vincenz, did you check the log for cups ?
[10:55] <vincenz> khermans: hmm, where would I find that?
[10:55] <erUSUL> !bugs | xbris
[10:55] <ubotu> xbris: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:55] <khermans> vincenz, /var/log/cups/
[10:55] <vincenz> khermans: nothing relevant in there
[10:55] <wy> Just found another several hundred megabytes of tracker data! What's it doing
[10:55] <vincenz> khermans: I open evince, click print and don't get any printers listsed.
[10:55] <luddite> GNU\colossus : yes
[10:55] <fotoflo> ok. well ive got dhcp working, but i want to switch to a static ip (my router will let me do that..)
[10:56] <luddite> exactly that :-)
[10:56] <xbris> bug reports yay =p
[10:56] <GNU\colossus> luddite: move/copy it to a directory in your PATH
[10:56] <khermans> vincenz, sudo dpkg-configure cupsys
[10:56] <khermans> dpkg-reconfigure
[10:56] <GNU\colossus> e. g. `sudo cp yourscript /usr/local/bin/`
[10:56] <GNU\colossus> also make sure it's read able and executeable for everyone at its final location
[10:56] <luddite> oh that easy
[10:56] <luddite> great
[10:56] <luddite> thanks
[10:56] <GNU\colossus> you're welcome
[10:57] <khermans> vincenz, try seeing if you can browse printers to install from the System menu
[10:57] <white_eagle> can I get the boot screen to work? You know the ubuntu logo and the orange loading bar never show up at me!?
[10:59] <wy> Any ideas how to clean up tracker and its data?
[10:59] <vincenz> khermans: on another note.  I used to have gutsy before, worked fine.  Now I reinstalled fresh, and when I try to upgrade to the latest packages, my X no longer works.  So I have not upgraded many packages.
[10:59] <Zero> khermans: The problem is not just the icons
[10:59] <Zero> i cant use right click on the desktop
[10:59] <Zero> or select
[10:59] <vincenz> khermans: logging into gdm will make gnome flash a lot and then have the hd spin wildly and hang if I upgrade all my packages
[10:59] <vincenz> khermans: using another window manager has it simply kill back to gdm
[10:59] <x_zeuss> ubuntu is acting really strange on me lately... it logs me out for no reason
[11:00] <x_zeuss> firefox doesn't open only after a restart
[11:00] <Sonja> x_zeuss: maybe you need to completely reinstall ubuntu
[11:00] <x_zeuss> and synaptic closes up when i do a search
[11:00] <x_zeuss> it's the second time i reinstall
[11:00] <khermans> vincenz, i would check for errors in all the relevant logs
[11:01] <khermans> Zero, check logs
[11:01] <Zero> where are they? :S
[11:01] <x_zeuss> Sonja: can the fact that i have separate partition for /home to do with this?
[11:01] <khermans> if you think your packages caused the issues, you can always try gutsy-proposed and gutsy-backports
[11:01] <vincenz> khermans: nothing
[11:01] <khermans> Zero, /var/log/{package-name}
[11:02] <vincenz> khermans: it just hangs the gui with gnome, but nothing in logs
[11:02] <Sonja> x_zeuss: i don't know. i've only been using firefox for a few days.
[11:02] <tkooda> is there a final solution for getting sound back after a gutsy upgrade?
[11:02] <Zero> khermans, which package should it be?
[11:02] <khermans> tkooda, disable pulseaudio ?
[11:02] <tkooda> ..seen tons of bugs, but nothing seems to work
[11:02] <x_zeuss> Sonja: this is really strange, i deleted windows just so that i don't have this sort of problems anymore
[11:03] <khermans> Zero, do you have any non-supported repos installed in sources.list?
[11:03] <ikonia> Sonja: are we still going on about this
[11:03] <Zero> i think yes
[11:03] <tkooda> khermans, pulseaudio package not installed.   ?
[11:03] <Sonja> yeah i'm discovering that ubuntu is not that good too
[11:03] <luddite> GNU\colossus : hey mate- thanks a ton - that vcs program works a complete treat
[11:03] <Sonja> ikonia: this time it's x_zeuss
[11:03] <ikonia>  Sonja why don't you just drop it and accept you'll need to re-install
[11:04] <Sonja> i don't know how to reinstall
[11:04] <GNU\colossus> luddite: knowledge is there to be shared and passed on, right? ;) have fun making screenshots!
[11:04] <ikonia> Sonja: apologies, didn't mean to send that in PM my auto complete slipped
[11:04] <ikonia> Sonja: you get the install cd - put the install cd into you computer, boot your computer from the install cd and then click install. Ubuntu will re-install it's self for you
[11:05] <Sonja> that part is easy. the part i wonder about is how to make sure the new install functions exactly as my current one did. same documents and settings etc.
[11:05] <newbieee> how do i make thunar my default.....right now its nautilus..
[11:05] <ikonia> Sonja: if you have not backedup - it won't
[11:05] <Sonja> well reinstall ubuntu means also backup right?
[11:05] <ikonia> Sonja: backup your documents somewhre, re-install and restore them
[11:05] <ikonia> Sonja: ubuntu will not backup for you, you will have to backup
[11:05] <Sonja> right. i don't know what to back up, where to get it from, etc.
[11:05] <khermans> Zero, vincenz, either of you using automatix?
[11:05] <MenZa> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease <- newbieee this might help
[11:05] <MenZa> !automatix | khermans
[11:05] <ubotu> khermans: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[11:06] <ikonia> Sonja: all your docs are where you saved them
[11:06] <Sonja> exactly, that's a whole other nightmare :) installing ubuntu seems the easiest part
[11:06] <Zero> khermans, no
[11:06] <MenZa> khermans: and neither should you.
[11:06] <khermans> MenZa, yeah i know that -- need to make sure they aren
[11:06] <Sonja> and my programs?
[11:06] <MenZa> khermans: good :)
[11:06] <khermans> MenZa, ive been unubtuin' longer than you
[11:06] <khermans> :-)
[11:06] <ikonia> Sonja: you don't back them up, you install them cleanly into your new ubuntu install
[11:06] <Sonja> so i have to reinstall them?
[11:06] <ikonia> Sonja: yes
[11:06] <Sonja> and reset them all to the custom settings i prefer?
[11:06] <MenZa> khermans: That doesn't necessarily come with sense. :)
[11:06] <khermans> MenZa, hehe true!
[11:06] <Sonja> anything else i need to do to get the same computer as before?
[11:06] <ikonia> Sonja: re-create them
[11:07] <MenZa> Sonja: unless you have a seperate /home and /, yes.
[11:07] <Sonja> my programs are in a separate partition, i'm told
[11:07] <Zero> khermans, its ok i solved it
[11:07] <ikonia> Sonja: they are not
[11:07] <Zero> i used gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true && nautilus
[11:07] <Sonja> my friend who installed ubuntu did it that way
[11:07] <Zero> thanks anyway
[11:07] <Sonja> they're not?
[11:07] <ikonia> Sonja: just re-install ubuntu, one of the core issues you have is your applications are sgfaulting.
[11:07] <MenZa> ooh fun
[11:07] <Sonja> yes i want to reinstall ubuntu
[11:07] <MenZa> ikonia: have you checked Sonja's partition table?
[11:08] <Sonja> but there are other things i must do too!!
[11:08] <ikonia> MenZa: I've not for various reasons.
[11:08] <Sonja> like backup and everything else you fail to mention :)
[11:08] <ikonia> Sonja: I've told you what/where to backup
[11:08] <ikonia> Sonja: the reason you are in this miss is because you don't listen
[11:08] <Sonja> ?
[11:08] <ikonia> Sonja: and your proving this again
[11:08] <MenZa> ikonia: I've only gotten half, so I'll leave you to it.
[11:08] <khermans> ikonia, be nice
[11:08] <MindSpark> hi, how do I fsck / ?
[11:09] <khermans> Sonja, your apps are segfaulting?
[11:09] <Sonja> only firefox
[11:09] <khermans> Sonja, and why do you think it is happening?
[11:09] <khermans> Sonja, when did it work?
[11:09] <Sonja> because i don't listen
[11:09] <MindSpark> Sonja, every time you start it ?
[11:09] <khermans> Sonja, lol
[11:09] <Sonja> :)
[11:09] <Nicolaidis> hello....
[11:09] <Sonja> blitz_x showed me how to uninstall firefox
[11:09] <Sonja> and reinstall it
[11:09] <Sonja> but apparently in the process, it breaks gnome
[11:09] <blitz_x> it was awesome.
[11:09] <ikonia> MenZa: thank you, I appriciate there are more extemes can be gone to, but trust me, in this senario it's not worth it
[11:09] <Nicolaidis> can someone help me with cairo-dock?
[11:10] <MindSpark> does anyone know how to force fs check on reboot ? I.e. the root filesystem ?
[11:10] <khermans> Sonja, do you know belinda lopez?
[11:10] <MindSpark> Sonja, did you try to delete the config directory or move it?
[11:10] <MenZa> ikonia: heh
[11:10] <ikonia> Sonja: it doesn't break gnome. Gnome and assoiated applications have dependencies which removing firefox will break
[11:10] <Sonja> neither to my knowledge
[11:10] <Sonja> ok then it broke gnome dependencies
[11:10] <Sonja> and i don't know her
[11:10] <ikonia> Sonja: no - synaptic will remove the applications associated with it
[11:11] <khermans> Sonja, you and on 32 or 64 bit?
[11:11] <MindSpark> I can help with cairo, I am there, but I am not sure about cairo-dock
[11:11] <blitz_x> ikonia: can those dependancies be reinstalled? and if so, what are they?
[11:11] <Sonja> my copmuter is 64, but my ubuntu is 32
[11:11] <khermans> Sonja, oh ok
[11:11] <khermans> Sonja, what is wrong with 64-bit firefox?
[11:11] <Sonja> i was told to use 32
[11:11] <ikonia> blitz_x: they won't be re-installed as they depend on firefox, not install with firefox
[11:11] <Sonja> because some things don't work in 64 yet
[11:11] <khermans> Sonja, you dont need to -- only Sun's Java plugin
[11:11] <Sonja> by friends who know ubuntu better than me
[11:11] <ikonia> Sonja: a 32bit os for you is fine. There are no problems with a 32bit os
[11:12] <khermans> Sonja, you can use nspluginwrapper
[11:12] <khermans> for everything else
[11:12] <blitz_x> ikonia: it looks like if I were to uninstall firefox right now, the only critical dependancy to go would be ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <ikonia> khermans: there is no need for Sonja to use 64bit OS, and as a new user (as you can see) this will make things over complex
[11:12] <eu58374> khermans: there's many other things that don't run on 64bit, like w32codecs
[11:12] <ikonia> blitz_x on YOUR box
[11:12] <Sonja> yeah i'm a n00b :)
[11:12] <ikonia> blitz_x: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[11:12] <khermans> ikonia, she already has 64bit, so i try to save her
[11:13] <ikonia> khermans: I was told it was a 32bit install
[11:13] <Sonja> yes it 's a 32 bit ubuntu
[11:13] <ikonia> Sonja: ok - so you need to backup your documents in your home directory then re-install ubuntu
[11:13] <MindSpark> install it again, so you have 64
[11:13] <Sonja> ok must commence backup
[11:13] <eu58374> khermans: last time i install 64bit ubuntu it had also many timer issues
[11:14] <MindSpark> 2 x 32 = 64
[11:14] <ikonia> MindSpark: please don't advise that, it is uncalled for in Sonja's situation
[11:14] <khermans> Sonja, you just told me it was 64-bit
[11:14] <khermans> confusing
[11:14] <Sonja> my computer is 64 bit
[11:14] <ikonia> MindSpark: please stop, that is a clear troll attempt, 2 x 32 does NOT = 64
[11:14] <Sonja> my ubuntu install is 32 bit
[11:14] <khermans> Sonja, yes stick with 32-bit
[11:14] <ikonia> Sonja: that is fine, you are using a wise choice
[11:14] <MindSpark> ikonia, c'mon it's a joke, obvious enough
[11:14] <Sonja> yea
[11:14] <eu58374> khermans: no, she told you her computer is 64bit, but she has 32bit ubuntu installed
[11:14] <ikonia> MindSpark: it's not a joke to some people, think about what you say in hear
[11:14] <khermans> Sonja, so when were your programs not segfalting?
[11:15] <MindSpark> hear ?
[11:15] <khermans> Sonja, ie -- what changed to break everything?
[11:15] <Sonja> khermans: everything was fine until i uninstalled firefox
[11:15] <ikonia> MindSpark: here
[11:15] <blitz_x> before I helped her uninstall firefox.
[11:15] <MindSpark> aight
[11:15] <Sonja> uninstalling firefox broke everything
[11:15] <eu58374> Sonja: but you uninstalled firefox for a reason?
[11:15] <ikonia> Sonja: everything wasn't fine before you uninstalled firefox - as that is the REASON you wanted to uninstall firefox
[11:15] <MindSpark> Sonja, go into your home dir, do a mv .mozilla .mozilla-old
[11:15] <MindSpark> and restart firefox
[11:15] <blitz_x> her firefox seemed corrupt-esqu
[11:15] <MindSpark> it could be the config, I had that before
[11:15] <ikonia> blitz_x: no it didn't seem corrupt
[11:16] <Sonja> my firefox was acting weird because some of its documents were copied from my win copy
[11:16] <Sonja> so i wanted to remove it completely and reinstall it completely
[11:16] <ikonia> MindSpark: that is very true but there is more afoot than just firefox on this users install
[11:16] <Sonja> but apparently that requires a whole new ubuntu install, according to ikonia
[11:16] <Sonja> so that's where i'm at now
[11:16] <khermans> Sonja, try this --> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude reinstall ~i
[11:16] <MindSpark> nothing ever requires a fresh install, this is not windows
[11:16] <blitz_x> ikonia: it probobly wasnt, but it was acting as such
[11:16] <ikonia> Sonja: no it doesn't, please stop miss-quoting me and listen
[11:16] <Sonja> what part did i misunderstand ikonia?
[11:16] <ikonia> blitz_x: again - you have made random assumptions.
[11:17] <Sonja> i'll try your command khermans
[11:17] <blitz_x> ikonia: you know what she told me it was doing? no? ok who is assuming.
[11:17] <ikonia> blitz_x: I was in the channel when she gave a description
[11:18] <blitz_x> it was a private channel in which i tried to help
[11:18] <Disastro_> whats xubuntu default window manager?
[11:18] <eu58374> Disastro_: xfwm4
[11:18] <ikonia> blitz_x: yes, I don't know what was said in private but I read the question/situation posted to the channel
[11:18] <khermans> Disastro_, xfce
[11:18] <eu58374> khermans: he asked for the *window manager*
[11:18] <Sonja> khermans:  i got an error regarding tzdata package
[11:18] <khermans> eu58374, ahh good catch
[11:18] <khermans> Sonja, it is not an error -- it is just being kept back
[11:18] <Disastro_> if i install ubuntu will it affect to it that i have changed ubuntus window manager to icewm?
[11:19] <Disastro_> i mean if i install xubuntu
[11:19] <blitz_x> ikonia: priv.
[11:19] <simplechat> Disastro_, nah
[11:19] <Sonja> khermans:  i still get segfaults even after runnig the command you gave me
[11:19] <Disastro_> ok, thx
[11:19] <Sonja> i'll do what ikonia recommends. it's just a lot of work
[11:20] <khermans> Sonja, just with firefox?
[11:20] <eu58374> Disastro_: well, in xfce you can only use xfwm4. if you run icewm, you don't have the xfce desktop, but you can still use xfce apps.
[11:20] <Sonja> yup only firefox
[11:20] <khermans> Sonja, hrmmm did you try safe mode ?
[11:20] <Sonja> let me try safe mode
[11:20] <Sonja> what's the command
[11:20] <khermans> Sonja, is it only on startup?
[11:21] <Sonja> what does startup mean?
[11:21] <Sonja> i can't even open firefox
[11:21] <khermans> Sonja, firefox -safe-mode
[11:21] <RedHeron> startup = when you start the computer
[11:21] <khermans> RedHeron, i meant application starts
[11:21] <Sonja> ikonia: can i restart my computer or will it be all buggy now that some dependencies are borken?
[11:21] <Sonja> ok let me try safe mode
[11:21] <^No_MeRcY^> [ Hola ]
[11:22] <khermans> ^No_MeRcY^, coma estas?
[11:22] <RedHeron> so... startup = when you start the program
[11:22] <AdvoWork> hi, if i goto places > Network Servers it shows a folder in there, myserver.  now myserver is a windows server, when I click it it shows me all the files,fine. how can i access that folder? ie /var/dir/... but i need /?/?/myserver :s
[11:22] <Smegzor> K3B doesn't support burning wav files to an audio cd.  Is there something I can install to add support or should I use a different burner?
[11:22] <MindSpark> gotta fsck /. Can someone help how to force this ?
[11:22] <ikonia> Sonja: I'm sure you can restart your pc, I'll be honest though I've lost interest as your doing everything but actually just get on with it
[11:22] <Sonja> i'm listening to what other people have to say. you're not the only one in here ikonia :)
[11:22] <Sonja> i will do what you recommended, but it takes a lot of time to back every thing up
[11:22] <khermans> Smegzor, i thought k3b should, but you can try brasero
[11:22] <GNU\colossus> what format does evolution store email messages in? maildir, mbox, or something else?
[11:22] <ikonia> Sonja: do what you wish
[11:23] <RedHeron> Sonja: just back up the important stuff?
[11:23] <Smegzor> khermans: me too until I tried it.
[11:23] <blitz_x> Sonja: firefox -safe.... that command has to be in terminal, not a restart
[11:23] <eu58374> MindSpark: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[11:23]  * RedHeron looks for the reverse switch in his hard drive.
[11:23] <Sonja> i still got the segfault in safemode
[11:24] <cyphase> Does anyone know of a Firefox extension that allows you to drag an existing tab from one window to another, not just open a copy of that tab?
[11:24] <MindSpark> eu58374, fsck checks for this file ?
[11:24] <eu58374> MindSpark: the init script /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh does this
[11:24] <GNU\colossus> Sonja: seemingly unmotivated segfaults are an indicator of a possible hardware defect or (severe) misconfiguration
[11:24] <Seveas> GNU\colossus, mbox with an additional index file
[11:24] <eu58374> MindSpark: and runs fsck with -f parameter if the file is present
[11:24] <khermans> Sonja, so we have determined it is not your addons
[11:25] <GNU\colossus> Seveas: thanks!
[11:25] <khermans> Sonja, which firefox
[11:25] <khermans> type that
[11:25] <Sonja> GNU\colossus: well it's because i uninstalled firefox. according to ikonia that's what was causes the segfaults
[11:25] <khermans> tell us you are not using something outside repos
[11:25] <GNU\colossus> Sonja: you're on ubuntu 7.10, right?
[11:25] <Sonja> yes latest ubuntu disc
[11:26] <MindSpark> eu58374, ok, thanks, but could you maybe tell me how you got to that ? lol
[11:26] <GNU\colossus> try installing the package named "kazehakase" - it's another browser that uses firefox' technologic backend for browsing. maybe it doesn't crash for you
[11:26] <ikonia> Sonja thats not what I said, I didn't say that causes segfaults
[11:26] <ikonia> Sonja: in future, do not quote me again
[11:26] <fotoflo> hmm how do i zip a whole directory ?
[11:26] <Sonja> i thought you said the segfault was caused by my uninstalling firefox
[11:26] <eu58374> MindSpark: just reading the init script. gotta know some shell scripting :)
[11:27] <Sonja> what caused it then?
[11:27] <MindSpark> eu58374, I do know bash, but I wouldn't have read through the entire init's
[11:27] <Sonja> GNU\colossus:  ok i'll install kazehazase
[11:27] <GNU\colossus> Kazehakase
[11:27] <MindSpark> thanks anyway, brb
[11:27] <GNU\colossus> not kazehazase ;)
[11:28] <GNU\colossus> (it's japanese - don't know what it means)
[11:28] <wy> I'm trying to remove open office. But I don't understand why it will also remove various language-support package.
[11:28] <Sonja> GNU\colossus:  ok installed, what now?
[11:28] <khermans> fotoflo, zip -r foo.zip foo
[11:28] <GNU\colossus> Sonja: try starting it.
[11:29] <Sonja> no problem at all
[11:29] <GNU\colossus> it should appear in your applications menu now
[11:29] <Sonja> i opened a web page with it
[11:29] <khermans> Sonja, the only way to tell would be to whip out gdb, and we don't want to do that
[11:29] <Sonja> it works fine
[11:29] <GNU\colossus> Sonja: that's great. have fun browsing :)
[11:29] <eu58374> MindSpark: the method to find the right script would be to grep for fsck in all scripts that run at system boot, so grep fsck /etc/rcS.d/S*
[11:29] <Sonja> thanks, but how to fix firefox? my current best method is to reinstall ubuntu from scratch
[11:29] <khermans> Sonja, a hack would be this --> sudo aptitude install firefox-dbg && firefox-dbg
[11:30] <GNU\colossus> Sonja: open a terminal
[11:30] <eu58374> mindframe_: and then investigate further in the matching scripts
[11:30] <Sonja> oh wait
[11:30] <Sonja> firefox opens fine now!
[11:30] <Sonja> the installing of japanese stuff fixed firefox
[11:30] <khermans> Sonja, and what changed?
[11:31] <eu58374> mindframe_: nevermind
[11:31] <white_eagle> can I make the system monitor show up on ctrl-alt-del?
[11:32] <Sonja> ikonia: we may have found a solution without reinstalling and backing up everything
[11:32] <khermans> white_eagle, perhaps with menu bindings
[11:32] <Sonja> maybe that will cheer you up :)
[11:32] <ikonia> Sonja: thats not a solution, and there are more problems, but I'm no longer interested. Do what you wish as long as your happy
[11:32] <Sonja> you're
[11:32] <Sonja> ok, sorry to hurt your feelings
[11:32] <Sonja> i won't bug you again
[11:32] <khermans> Sonja, hehe
[11:33] <Sonja> khermans: what does "sudo aptitude install firefox-dbg && firefox-dbg" do?
[11:33] <khermans> Sonja, it would install the debug version of firefox
[11:35] <jizzim> is there a alarm clock for ubuntu?
[11:35] <tkooda> I'm shocked that gutsy shipped with broken intel audio:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller  ???  -having to try a number of manual fixes just to get intel audio back after by-the-book gutsy upgrade
[11:36] <ikonia> tkooda: ubuntu didn't ship - the kernel has that problem
[11:36] <Chani> hey, was it wpa or wep that's broken in gutsy's networkmanager?
[11:37] <khermans> jizzim, try xmms
[11:37] <khermans> it has an alarm clock mode plugin
[11:37] <jizzim> i am already using amarok
[11:37] <blitz_x> tkooda: the great news is that the kernel is open source, so you can totally fix your sound problem.
[11:38] <khermans> jizzim, sleep 8h && totem foo.mp3
[11:38] <khermans> blitz_x, dude hes probably not a programmer
[11:38] <tkooda> blitz_x, that's a lame* reply.  users rely on distros to provide that kinda stuff.  "go roll yer own" is a BS answer.
[11:39] <Sonja> firefox runs fine now, after installing that program, it fixed firefox. GNU\colossus is a genius!
[11:39] <khermans> tkooda, although it would be nice if manuf QA tested Linux on their laptops
[11:39] <tkooda> ikonia, CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL is not set in 2.6.22-14-generic kernel.  -sounds like alsa rc1 works, but not rc3.  -am having to re-compile rc1 manually
[11:39] <astro76> tkooda, you should read this http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html to understand why your question has annoyed people
[11:39] <ikonia> Sonja it hasn't fixed firefox it's a differnt binary
[11:39] <Sonja> but when i open firefox, it works now
[11:39] <Condoulo> hey, does anybody here have troubles with flash crashing on ustream?
[11:39] <tkooda> khermans, agreed.  -at least the "recomended" ones! (system76)
[11:39] <felich> please advise newbies HOWTO to do the fix described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/131212
[11:39] <Sonja> so it fixed something
[11:40] <ikonia> felich: there isn't a fix for that at this moment
[11:40] <ikonia> Sonja: no it didn't but as long as your happy, carry on
[11:40] <tkooda> astro76, you have any association with system76?
[11:41] <astro76> tkooda, no, highly recommended though ;)
[11:41] <tkooda> astro76, my previous (polite) question didn't solicit a response.  I waited, then rephrased intentionally that way.  :P
[11:41] <tkooda> astro76, a by-the-book gutsy upgrade broke audio on my system76 gasv4 laptop.  I'm not pleased.  buy dell.
[11:42]  * jdh6403 yawns and stretches
[11:42] <tkooda> ..it's not like gutsy came out yesterday either.  no usefull info re issue on sys76's sites, either.
[11:42]  * khermans takes a nap
[11:42] <Chani> oh man, I think that audio issue would affect me too.
[11:43] <tkooda> telling users (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller) to "try one of a bunch of possible manual fixes" is unacceptable, IMHO.
[11:43] <Chani> now I have *two* reasons to not try gutsy yet
[11:43] <scguy318> tkooda: question?
[11:43] <Bernd> good morning.  I have a strange problem. I used sudo nvidia-settings. All worked well then i rebooted
[11:43]  * Chani clings to the poor old half-dead feisty install
[11:43] <tkooda> scguy318, what is suggested fix for broken intel audio after by-the-book upgrade to gutsy on system76 gasv4 laptop?
[11:43] <jdh6403> i run gutsy with no prob whatsoever
[11:44] <Bernd> my xorg.conf was broken after that and i have no more sound and the desktop does not contain anything anymore
[11:44] <khermans> emmv -- everyone
[11:44] <scguy318> tkooda: I would consult !alsa, and probably install latest ALSA tarball
[11:44] <tkooda> jdh6403, you don't likely have one of the affected audio chipsets listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[11:44] <khermans> mileage may vary
[11:44] <scguy318> tkooda: that's what I would do
[11:44] <Sonja> does somebody want to help me get my scanner working on ubuntu? it's mustek 1200 ub
[11:44] <tkooda> scguy318, latest alsa snapshot failed.  rc3 alsa failed.  trying rc1 next.  (ugh)
[11:45] <tkooda> scguy318, `m-a`'ing alsa gives rc3
[11:45] <khermans> Sonja, you check xsane docs?
[11:45] <musikgoat> =-
[11:45] <Sonja> how does one check xsane docs?
[11:45] <jdh6403> but all ya hafta do is compile the kernal for your own specific needs then, thAts the beauty of linux   you can change everything
[11:46] <khermans> Sonja, just as a test, hook it up, and run xsane
[11:46] <scguy318> jdh6403: not everyone understands how or wants to :P
[11:46] <Sonja> ok let me open xsane
[11:46] <Sonja> it seems to be a scanning program
[11:46] <jdh6403> true
[11:46] <wmfoster> Hi all.  Anyone able to help with my issue???  I have an  Gigabit NForce4 Ultra based motherboard and if I format two SATA drives at the same time the whole system hangs.  It seems the OS doesn't support heavy IO on NForce4 SATA drives.  Any ideas?
[11:46] <khermans> Sonja, Applications -> Graphics -> Xsane
[11:46] <scguy318> Sonja: SANE frontend yes
[11:46] <tkooda> jdh6403, please see my answer to blitz_x when he said something similar a few minutes ago
[11:46] <tkooda> this isn't #LFS
[11:46] <ikonia> wmfoster nforce4 uses the forcedeath drive as I recall.
[11:47] <susie> How do you completely remove installed software?
[11:47] <scguy318> susie: sudo apt-get --purge remove nameofpackage
[11:47] <jdh6403> synaptic susie
[11:47] <khermans> susie, aptitude purge
[11:47] <GNU\colossus> susie: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[11:47] <jdh6403> or what scguy318 said
[11:47] <blitz_x> -rm tkooda
[11:48] <Sonja> neat xsane is using my scanner no prob! yay xsane! thanks khermans <3 <3
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> susie: It depends on how it was installed.. If manually or with some script.. it can be difficult
[11:48] <khermans> Sonja, np :-)
[11:48] <Sonja> <3
[11:48] <Sonja> you rule
[11:48] <th0r> khermans bet you wish they were all that easy <smile>
[11:48] <osfameron> yeah, xsane was much easier than getting a *mac* to play with my multifunction scanner
[11:48] <wmfoster> forcedeath??? From what I read it's the sata_nv driver. (or am I taking you too literally....  is this like the IBM Deathstars???)
[11:49] <susie> thanks for the help
[11:49] <khermans> th0r, heh
[11:50] <mikebeecham> is there anyway that I can put the trash bucket into the menu?
[11:50] <joha> Hi all!
[11:50] <ikonia> wmfoster: Hmmm sata_nv that maybe the disk component, forcedeath is the network name, but I also thought it was the same name for the disk controller.
[11:50] <ikonia> wmfoster: I could be wrong on that though
[11:50] <sensei_> Good afternoon, I could tell someone to record any program web cam and sound card? Thanks
[11:50] <joha> Does it make sense to upgrade a Dapper server to Gutsy?
[11:50] <ikonia> joha: no
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> joha: no
[11:50] <joha> okay, thanks
[11:50] <ikonia> joha: if you want to upgrade an LTS release, wait until Hardy and upgrade an LTS product to an new LTS product
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ikonia
[11:51] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: you to
[11:51] <joha> ikonia: okay, thanks!
[11:51] <joha> bye!
[11:51] <blitz_x> just for educational reference.. why not upgrade the dapper server?
[11:52] <mikebeecham> Hi guys...Is there a way to put the deleted items bucket into the menu?
[11:52] <rexy> dapper is still patched for bugs, so no need to upgrade, unless you really need the newer features
[11:52] <sensei_> Good afternoon, I could tell someone to record any program web cam and sound card? Thanks
[11:52] <ikonia> blitz_x because it is an LTS product and the ubuntu design is LTS -> LTS or non-LTS -> non-LTS
[11:53] <chazco> Hi... any suggestions for a full-screen menu on Ubuntu 7.10 (for use with an IR remote which acts like a keyboard, arrows / enter)
[11:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: You mean on the top bar or actually into the menu?
[11:53] <mikebeecham> hey Jack_Sparrow..into the menu itself
[11:53] <net> hello
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: I would think you could manually edit the menu and do it..
[11:54] <net> may i have yours attention??
[11:54] <ikonia> net: just ask the question
[11:54] <Ibralosch> ClanShells.DE.EU.GameSurge.net
[11:54] <net> i need to format floppy in ubuntu 8.04
[11:54] <blitz_x> this should be good
[11:54] <net> how to?
[11:54] <ikonia> net: why are you using 8.04 ?
[11:54] <thoreauputic> mikebeecham: put something like "nautilus $HOME/.Trash "
[11:54] <ikonia> net: it's still in development and 8.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:54] <pl_ice> i'm bored :/
[11:55] <e_r_c_e> thx
[11:55] <ikonia> !offtopic > pl_ice
[11:55] <blitz_x> I love the fact that hes using the absolute cutting edge OS to format a floppy.
[11:55] <thoreauputic> net: format as what?
[11:55] <rexy> thoreauputic: i was trying that too, but then it views it as a normal directory, not as the Trash
[11:55] <Jack_Sparrow> net you can do it with dd
[11:56] <mikebeecham> I'm so confused about the deleted items.  I have the deleted items on a panel, and there is also a deleted items in the window list on the left when you open a window....but they're not the same, are they?
[11:56] <khermans> blithe, all floppies require hardy
[11:56] <khermans> heh
[11:56] <thoreauputic> net: mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0 ( but you probably actually want a FAT file system)
[11:56] <khermans> mikebeecham, .Trash ?
[11:56] <rexy> mkdosfs then
[11:57] <mikebeecham> khermans...thanks for making my point ;)
[11:57] <rexy> or was it the other one, i always get them confused
[11:57] <khermans> rexy, mkfs.vfat
[11:57] <hipitihop> I have mounted a freedos boot via 'sudo mount -t vfat -o loop FDOEM.144 ~/floppy' as I am trying to setup a bios flash update however after trying to cp a second file to it I get 'no space left on device' can someone please help
[11:57] <mikebeecham> I have just deleted some items, but they have not gone into the trash bucket on either the desktop or deleted items in the Places list in a window
[11:57] <khermans> hipitihop, dont use floppies
[11:57] <rexy> khermans: but that's different from the filesystem mkfs.msdos right,
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: You have trash for items deleted by your user and another deleted as root...
[11:58] <thoreauputic> rexy: vfat is 32 bit IIRC. msdos is 16 bit or maybe even less..
[11:58] <khermans> rexy, dont think so
[11:58] <mikebeecham> but where do they go?  I am logged in as my user, have a deleted icons icon on a panel and also on the places list within a window
[11:58] <mikebeecham> but nothing has gone in there
[11:58] <blitz_x> correct me if im wrong, but hipitihop it would seem if you mmount it its gonna be locked
[11:59] <rexy> khermans: thought there were two fat's, one <old> and one newer for the bigger stuff
[11:59] <thoreauputic> rexy: there are three I think
[11:59] <alexi5> hello
[11:59] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: deleted icons from a panel may not show up in any trash...
[11:59] <khermans> rexy,  may be true, but mkfs.vfat is symlinked to mkdosfs
[11:59] <rexy> hmm
[11:59] <hipitihop> khermans, I'm all ears for alternative to flash upgrade the bios on my Acer laptop
[11:59] <mikebeecham> Jack_Sparrow: would it not make sense to just have a deleted items, and be done with that
[11:59] <rexy> well i guess you dont need 8.3 fat on floppy's anyway
[12:00] <mikebeecham> it makes it confusing to go making lots of them
[12:00] <khermans> hipitihop, you may be out of luck
[12:00] <khermans> hipitihop, could try bootable windows
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: The devs are open to suggestions.. but this is not the place for that type of discussion
[12:00] <Sonja> if my friend created a separate partition where my programs are being installed, how do i find it or browse it in nautilus?
[12:00] <khermans> hipitihop, like bartpe
[12:00] <vincenz> I installed cupsys and samba, for some reason I can't see any network printers.
[12:01]  * vincenz used to be able to print just fine on gutsy on his old hd
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Did he create a sep. /home partition?
[12:01] <bibek> how to bond two nics that get ip dynamically?
[12:01] <khermans> hipitihop, is it just a storage space issue?
[12:01] <khermans> hipitihop, if so, USB drive
[12:01] <mikebeecham> Jack_Sparrow: of course, I understand that...I'm just trying to understand how the trash works at the moment, and how I can ensure that when I am deleting items I know they are deleted, instead of going to an invisible place
[12:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: If so he mounted it as /home in fstab and you can see them in nautilus
[12:01] <mikebeecham> incidentally Jack_Sparrow it was not deleted icons...it was some files I wanted deleted...but they are not going to the trash bin
[12:02] <rexy> bibek: you have to have a switch that can bond two, and then combine the two nics on the machine to one virtual nic
[12:02] <hipitihop> khermans, I'm following instructions on www.linuxinsight.com and it eventually intends to create a bootable CD so I wonder how I can allow more space on this thing
[12:02] <bibek> i am having problem with dynamic ip.
[12:02] <rexy> bibek: dont know the commands to do that though, i'm sure a google will dig it up
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: But they were deleted from the bar and not from the drive or desktop correct?
[12:02] <khermans> bibek, hrmm ifenslave ?
[12:02] <aram> hi
[12:02] <Sonja> Jack_Sparrow: thanks. where is fstab? (and it was a she.)
[12:03] <khermans> hipitihop, you could boot a linux live cd and emulate dos
[12:03] <Sonja> or i just type fstab in console?
[12:03] <aram> i goy quistion with how can i make connection between xp and ubuntu ?
[12:03] <rexy> cat /etc/fstab
[12:03] <mikebeecham> Jack_Sparrow: no no no...I am talking about deleting files from folders that I have crteated.  For example /home/mike/wallpapers.  When I delete an old wallpaper, I dont know where they have gone?
[12:03] <khermans> aram, shared folders ?  smb
[12:03] <bibek> i know abt ifenslave
[12:03] <aram> khermans: yes
[12:03] <blitz_x> aram: what kinda connection?
[12:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/fstab.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)          will make a copy of it to your desktop
[12:03] <mikebeecham> they do not appear within the Deleted Items icon when clicked on the panel
[12:04] <Sonja> Jack_Sparrow:  awesome
[12:04] <mikebeecham> nor within the deleted items icon in the Places list?
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[12:04] <hipitihop> khermans, can't do that (emulate dos) from existing running Ubuntu gutsy on that laptop ?
[12:04] <Sonja> when i copy and paste commands to console, it just puts in a dot .
[12:04] <mikebeecham> so Jack_Sparrow 1) Why not  2) Where have they gone?
[12:04] <Sonja> i have to type them manually :(
[12:04] <aram> khermans: there is 2 connection first share folder secound is that i have run dhcp server on 2003 and want to ubuntu get ip from 2003
[12:04] <blitz_x> Sonja: right click.
[12:04] <Sonja> oh it's called terminal, not console?
[12:04] <Sonja> blit good idea
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: to paste into a terminal... use shift-ctrl-v
[12:05] <aram> khermans: in xp i  have install nwlinnk but i dont know about linux?
[12:05] <Sonja> oh you have to add shift! weird
[12:05] <khermans> aram, if you are on same layer2, then DHCP request from ubuntu should just work
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Yea.. sorry.. and to copy out of it too..
[12:05] <chazco> Is there any way to stop Totem turning subtitles on by default?
[12:05] <blitz_x> aram: those are 2 seperate problems, but if the files are on a different partition or drive they should already be available to you
[12:06] <aram> khermans:  i think router work in layer 3
[12:06] <Sonja> ok here are my partitions http://pastebin.com/m6f31bd44
[12:06] <Sonja> where are my programs?
[12:06] <khermans> aram, not DHCP
[12:06] <aram> blitz_x: ok if i want linux see the share folder on xp what shall i do
[12:06] <TiscOsX> Sonja: wich programs ? windos ?
[12:06] <TiscOsX> Sonja: wich programs ? windows ?
[12:07] <aram> khermans: you are right but when it get ip then router can not forward ip
[12:07] <khermans> aram, smb://hostname/sharename
[12:07] <Sonja> er my ubuntu programs
[12:07] <khermans> aram, and why not?
[12:07] <aram> khermans: what is that?
[12:07] <Sonja> i want to put a plugin for pidgin and it goes in a certain folder
[12:07] <blitz_x> aram is the folder on the same system or networked?
[12:07] <Sonja> i dunno where my program files are stored in ubuntu, but it hink they're ina partition somehere
[12:08] <khermans> Sonja, /usr/bin usually
[12:08] <TiscOsX> Sonja: yop
[12:08] <TiscOsX> #
[12:08] <TiscOsX> # /dev/sdb2
[12:08] <TiscOsX> #
[12:08] <TiscOsX> UUID=145e2b5d-8463-4bfb-9d45-e7d821ee168a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Yes you have a sep /home    if you want to know where downloaded deb's go.. /var/cache/apt/archives  but there is more to this question
[12:08] <aram> blitz_x: on same network
[12:08] <blitz_x> aram: is samba installed?
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: May I guess that you installed something with synaptic and now cannot find it in the menu or elsewhere?
[12:08] <khermans> aram, is this router a linksys hting or you rol your own?
[12:08] <aram> khermans: sorry what is that and where should i type it
[12:09] <blitz_x> !samba
[12:09] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> TiscOsX: Please do not paste like that in here
[12:09] <aram> blitz_x: i dont know what is samba and also dont know which os i have to installed on
[12:09] <khermans> aram, samba is for linux
[12:09] <blitz_x> Samba installs to linux
[12:09] <aram> khermans: it is 2003 router it is not exist it is software
[12:09] <TiscOsX> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i will remember, sorry
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:09] <aram> khermans: i should install smaba on linux?
[12:10] <aram> khermans: in synoptic ?
[12:10] <blitz_x> DO IT!
[12:10] <khermans> aram, for routing your packets, just make sure your DHCP server is correct and assigs proper working router
[12:10] <khermans> aram, if you like
[12:10] <aram> ok
[12:10] <vincenz> For some reason before on my gutsy system I did not have to install the printers, I had them all, now I have to install them apparently and I do not know which driver to use
[12:11] <Sonja> Jack_Sparrow: i need to install an addon for a program by copying a certain file to acertain subfolder of that program folder but i dunno where my program folders are
[12:11] <aram> khermans: ok and what about samba i have to installed on ubuntu in synoptic?
[12:11] <Sonja> they are in a separate partition somewhere
[12:11] <eli542> !apache
[12:11] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:11] <Sonja> i'd like to be able to browse them in nautilus
[12:11] <sarmisak> Sonja: cd /; find | grep your_file
[12:11] <VladimirMelo> does anybody face problem with tracker-search-tool?
[12:11] <khermans> aram, that is for sharing files with windows
[12:12] <VladimirMelo> it doesnt find anything here
[12:12] <aram> khermans: i mean do i have to install that on ubuntu?
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Rather than discuss hypotheticals.. what are you trying to install/addon
[12:12] <Sonja> Jack_Sparrow: this: http://myjobspace.co.nz/images/pidgin/
[12:12] <Sonja> skype plugin for pidgin
[12:12] <seynthantx> VladimirMelo: yes i've disabled it
[12:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Hold for a sec
[12:13] <Myrtti> there's a skype plugin for pidgin?
[12:13] <Myrtti> whoa
[12:13] <khermans> aram, yes
[12:13] <Sonja> i think it's chat only
[12:13] <VladimirMelo> seynthantx: :(
[12:13] <Sonja> not audio
[12:13] <Sonja> which is fine with me.
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Myrtti
[12:13] <Sonja> i want to text chat with some skype contacts
[12:13] <Sonja> without opening skype
[12:13] <aram> khermans: thanks and do i have to install any thing on windows as well ?
[12:13] <khermans> aram, no
[12:14] <aram> khermans: thanks
[12:14] <aram> khermans: if i install samba every thing in ubuntu can communicate with windows ?
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: So you could not find that folder?  purple-2?
[12:15] <Sonja> i dunno where my program files are stored in ubuntu
[12:15] <khermans> aram, yes
[12:15] <khermans> aram, everything is a littl weird term
[12:15] <Sonja> it's in one of the partitions i pasted earlier
[12:15] <seynthantx> VladimirMelo: I haven't got rid of the packages yet just disabled through Indexing prefs.
[12:16] <blitz_x> Sonja: according to your pastebin link, im betting your files are in /media/windows and /media/windowsold
[12:16] <jhaig> I have just connected a printer to my laptop and I have found that the print manager will only start if I am connected to the network.  Otherwise, it closes immediately with "There was a problem connecting to the CUPS server."  This is because (I think) there are network printers configured and it means that I cannot configure the new printer without reconnecting to the network.  Is this a known issue?
[12:16] <pl_ice> aram http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[12:16] <Sonja> no those are my other hard drives
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: /usr/lib/purple-2/            is where the plugin will end up    let me find the plugin
[12:16] <VladimirMelo> seynthantx: yes, maybe appears some updates to fix it
[12:16] <Sonja> ohhh
[12:16] <Sonja> it's /usr/lib/purple-2
[12:16] <Sonja> awesome, thanks
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:17] <Sonja> <3 <3
[12:17] <Sonja> Captain_Jack_Sparrow
[12:17] <Sonja> sexy pirates yar
[12:17] <Administrator> can some one help me??
[12:17] <Seveas> !someone | Administrator
[12:17] <ubotu> Administrator: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Welcome to ubuntu
[12:17] <Sonja> ubuntun00b
[12:17] <aram> ok and what about installing windows software in ubuntu ,wine is right choise?
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Oh,oh, all the big dogs are here today.  I need to behave myself
[12:18] <pl_ice> aram what for?
[12:18] <blitz_x> aram: yes get wine, then run "sudo winecfg"
[12:18] <RCP> im trying to set up vent on ubuntu and I dont know how?
[12:18] <aram> pl_ice: for install network visualizer
[12:19] <aram> which is for cisco
[12:19] <blitz_x> RCP ventrillo?
[12:19] <pl_ice> ah :)
[12:19] <Avorn> hi all
[12:19] <RCP> yep
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[12:19] <zup2> happy new year :)
[12:19] <aram> blitz_x: it say not found
[12:19] <RCP> you too
[12:20] <aram> blitz_x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[12:20] <aram> sorry
[12:20] <Avorn> Ehm, I have a little problem with installing Ubuntu on my desktop, I was wondering if someone could help me?
[12:20] <aram> blitz_x: aram@Linux:~$ sudo winecfg
[12:20] <aram> [sudo] password for aram:
[12:20] <aram> sudo: winecfg: command not found
[12:20] <rexy> ask Avorn
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[12:20] <blitz_x> RCP: i got experience with it, but a ventrillo server might work using wine.  http://www.winehq.org/ has sp[ecifics
[12:21] <Avorn> I tried using the live cd (several versions, including the newest) on my computer
[12:21] <RCP> ok
[12:21] <Avorn> but after the boot menu, I only get a black screen
[12:21] <blitz_x> oops i mean I dont have experience with it :P
[12:21] <zupb> you must disabled ioapic
[12:21] <blitz_x> aram: do "sudo apt-get install wine" , thewn that other command
[12:22] <Avorn> ioapic?, how to do that?
[12:22] <zupb> in bios
[12:22] <Sonja> it says i don't have permission to write in /usr/lib/purple-2
[12:22] <Avorn> ah ok, I'll try that, thanks
[12:22] <Sonja> is there a way i can drag and drop to copy and it will ask me my sudo password in the gui?
[12:22] <dgjones> Avorn, have you tried the Alternate cd? that works on some machines that has better support for some hardware at install, but it is a command line installer
[12:23] <blitz_x> Sonja: you gotta open the file brouser using a password
[12:23] <blitz_x> gksudo nautilus
[12:23] <Avorn> ehm, I haven't tried the Alternate cd, I only have moderate experiance with ubuntu on my notebook, so I thought it might be to hard to use
[12:24] <Sonja> ok
[12:24] <jmz> salut
[12:24] <jmz> i'm back
[12:25] <Max_> hey
[12:25]  * Marfi waves
[12:25] <g0rb3hy> Morning, any one have any trouble in 7.10 with the screen saver kicking in all the time?
[12:25] <Max_> whats up?
[12:25] <Marfi> not a thing Max_ . got put on break, and getting ready to go back to hel...i mean work
[12:25] <Max_> ahah
[12:25] <Max_> nice
[12:25] <Max_> that sucks
[12:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Sorry I didnt answer...  I was on a different machine
[12:26] <Marfi> i work at a hardees...and will be looking for other employment. =)
[12:26] <Max_> and now you are back ya?
[12:26] <VladimirMelo> seynthantx: have you ever heard about this issue in other computers?
[12:26] <Max_> ai ai ai
[12:26] <Marfi> nope. i will be heading back in about 5
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[12:26] <dgjones> Avorn, it does the same thing, just with no graphical interface so its not as intuitive
[12:27] <Marfi> g0rb3hy, have you checked the screen saver prefferences?
[12:27] <Max_> do you know whether there is emule for ubuntu?
[12:27] <kaleh> hello. i have bought a creative vista webcam. how can i install and use it now?
[12:27] <g0rb3hy> No matter what settings I pick in the screen saver applet the screen saver is kicking in after 5 mins, I unlock with my pw then it just locks again
[12:27] <Marfi> g0rb3hy, got me. mind isn't working this early. ='/
[12:27] <Max_> and if so, where can I find it
[12:27] <g0rb3hy> its strange though as after the unlock I can use the mouse fine, its only when i press some keys afterwoods it starts to lock itself =s
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kaleh: You can read through the webcam page and see if it will work with the generic driver.. But the word Vista in the name is not a good sign
[12:28] <Sonja> where is the pixmaps/pidgin/protocols/ folder exactly?
[12:28] <Marfi> Max_, thats from the gnutallea network, right?
[12:28] <jgoo> looking for a erd / ddl generator tool - for modelling db schemas (and generating the ddl if necessary) either as an IDE plugin or a standalone tool, any suggestions (I have only found ferret on linux so far!!)
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: let me look for it
[12:28] <Marfi> or however you splel it
[12:28] <troythetechguy> I recently installed 7.10.  I have a 2nd HDD.  It appears that the 2nd HDD is automatically mounted during boot.  I don't recall this drive auto mounting in 7.04.  Was this a change in 7.10?
[12:29] <g0rb3hy> kaleh: check this website out, you can see if the camera support is nice for your cam....
[12:29] <Sonja> Jack_Sparrow: you are smrt.
[12:29] <Marfi> troythetechguy, yes. did it with my second drive
[12:29] <iblicf> hi , how to enable GNOME template , for right-click to create some TYPE of file , i try to 'touch' a empty file in ~/.Template ~/Template both , but seems no use .
[12:29] <g0rb3hy> kaleh: http://mxhaard.free.fr/
[12:29] <g0rb3hy> gspca is the best webcam driver around imo
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: usr/share
[12:29] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: ok
[12:29] <Sonja> thx
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[12:30] <Jowi> g0rb3hy, if you're using gnome then perhaps it's the power monitoring kicking in. might be worth to check its settings (I don't use gnome so I can't help you finding it)
[12:30] <pl_ice> bye bye :)
[12:30] <AdvoWork> how can i get the chmod number of a directory?
[12:30] <g0rb3hy> ls -la
[12:30] <troythetechguy> Marfi: Thanks for confirming.
[12:31] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: i installed the Ov51xJpegHackedInstall driver. but doesn't seem to work
[12:31] <aram> what is the command for umount one partiton?
[12:31] <g0rb3hy> kaleh: wheres that from?
[12:31] <Jowi> aram, sudo umount /mountpoint
[12:31] <RCP> can some one help me set up a vent server on ubuntu 7.10??
[12:31] <hipitihop> khermans, hmmm so there is no standard way to flash bios from linux ?
[12:31] <Jowi> aram, or ... sudo umount /dev/device
[12:32] <g0rb3hy> kaleh: im pretty sure its packaged now, try sudo apt-cache search gspca
[12:32] <aram> Jowi: what is /dev/device please
[12:32] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: that is the driver creative pointed to in it's website  --  http://opensource.creative.com/webcam.html
[12:32] <AdvoWork> g0rb3hy dont think that showed me the number unless im missin sumot?
[12:32] <Sonja> is there an unzip/unrar tool for ubuntu that lets me drag and drop the files to any folder in nautilus instead of having to press "extract" button
[12:32] <RCP> can some one help me set up a vent server on ubuntu 7.10??
[12:32] <Jowi> aram, depends. my partitions is /dev/sda3 (for root) and /dev/sda5 (for /home)
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: Bios flashing is best / most often done from bootable media...
[12:32] <g0rb3hy> gspca supports chips not specific cameras and has been worked on for a while
[12:32] <g0rb3hy> so its the best bet in most cases
[12:33] <Jowi> aram, "mount" in a terminal will show the mountpoint and device
[12:33] <kaleh> hmm ok
[12:33] <troythetechguy> My 2nd HDD is divided in 2 partitions (sda1, sda2).  The ls -l command on /media shows sda1 having (drwxr-xr-x ), but sda2 having (drwxrwx---) permissions.  This is on a clean install of 7.10, and I did not make the changes.  Why  are the permissions different?
[12:33] <aram> jowi thanks
[12:33] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: gspca-source - source for the gspca v4l kernel module, is this what i should install?
[12:34] <g0rb3hy> yup and the tools package
[12:34] <co> hai
[12:34] <nomic> anyone know if it's possible to run two monitors from one graphics card in ubuntu?
[12:34] <kaleh> ok
[12:34] <nomic> pls
[12:34] <aram> and how can i access share file in windows i mean open them in terminal
[12:34] <g0rb3hy> then get something like cameraoma
[12:34] <g0rb3hy> troythetechguy: are they already formated?
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: Most if not all require a DOS floppy...  Also be sure you are flashing to take care of a known fix and not for some other non-listed problem.  A bad flash can make for an expensive doorstop...  MAke a floppy on a friends windows box if needed.  It isnt something you will need to do very often
[12:35] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: there is no tools package
[12:35] <troythetechguy> g0rb3hy: Yes, sda1 is formatted ext3, and sda2 is NTFS.
[12:35] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: there is only gspca-source
[12:35] <g0rb3hy> it auto-mounts ntfs drives as read only
[12:36] <sjt> Hello, I'm a first timer and was wondering if someone could give me some install advice that I'm having trouble with.
[12:36] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, I understand, but most seem to be DOS based is that correct ? there is no linux live cd that can be used ?
[12:36] <aram> command for access share file from terminal?
[12:36] <axz> Hi there
[12:36] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: not no 7.10.  ntfs drives are writeable
[12:36] <vincenz> What package do I need to autodetect network printers
[12:36] <axz> can someone help me how to encrypt my partition?
[12:36] <khermans> hipitihop, no
[12:37] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, also hard to find a floppy drive these days ;-)
[12:37] <troythetechguy> g0rb3hy: If that were the case then why is the permission set to write too?  NTFS sda2 (drwxrwx---)
[12:37] <Pici> !away > jgoo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:37] <rahull> hi, is there a free mario game available for linux?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: To make a dos disk...  or to do the flash...    yes. floppies are obsolete.. and it is the mfg's that make the hardware that should already know that
[12:38] <kaleh> rahull: secret maryo cgronicles
[12:38] <g0rb3hy> troythetechguy: sry was guessing, didnt know ntfs was writeable now ^^
[12:38] <rahull> thanks
[12:38] <kaleh> rahull: search getdeb.net
[12:38] <jgoo> Pici : Very nice - I like how IRC clients can be configured not to splurg name changes into the channel window, but cannot be configured to filter out polite bot triggers! ;-)
[12:38] <sjt> I'm booting from the Ubuntu CD (disc checked for integrity). I choose 1 to install or run and the Ubuntu loading screen appears and then the screen goes black, andy pointers?
[12:39] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: doesn't work. i tried using cheese after installing gspca-source
[12:39] <troythetechguy> g0rb3hy: NP.  I just saw that myself.  I'm confused why it mounts the same disk, with 2 different formats, is auto mounted with different permissions.
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: You want the smallest, lightest OS setup when you do the flash, you do not want anything extra running or going on when working on your hardware at that level.
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sjt: at start or install hit F6 and try some of the boot options like noapic
[12:40] <twb> Is the gutsy/partners repo damaged?
[12:40] <co> ,,,
[12:40] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, khermans thanks for your help ... I also have another laptop still running Windows XP but no floppy drive, I'll look around to see if I can create a CD equivalent to boot/flash from ... one of the guides said to use freedos as the bootable os
[12:40] <aram> command for access share file from terminal?
[12:41] <twb> Sorry, my fault.
[12:41] <twb> s/partners/partner/
[12:41] <AdvoWork> im doing: # cp /var/files/29_output.txt /home/new/newfile2.txt cp: cannot create regular file `/home/new/newfile2.txt': Permission denied
[12:41] <g0rb3hy> kaleh: read up at that website i linked, the best support is there.
[12:41] <aram> command for access share file from terminal?
[12:41] <AdvoWork> is that because newfile2 doesnt exist? as ive done chmod 777 /home/new
[12:41] <kaleh> ok
[12:41] <Lacrymology> does anybody know what is the compiz-compcomm-plugins-main and why does it try to uninstall compiz itself?
[12:42] <g0rb3hy> support might not be nice for your chip though, do a lsusb and check the chipset section to see if nice support for your chip is laready implemented
[12:42] <Pici> Lacrymology: Its not the main compiz package, compcomm is kind of depreciated now iirc.
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: What is the flash fix for on that?
[12:47] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, the laptop is an Acer Aspire 5634 with Nvidia 7300 and having some problems with external monitor and dual monitor
[12:47] <mikebeecham> Quick Question....can I remove lots of backgrounds from the "Background" window in one go?
[12:47] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, so I just went looking for update bios but must be honest I have not checked if it indeed fixes any issues I have...looking now
[12:48] <kaleh> g0rb3hy: thanks for the help
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> hipitihop: Double check, as I think you are not flashing for the right reason... /fix  and I have seen way too many flashes create doorstops of good hardware.
[12:50] <vincenz> I don't get it, when I do lpinfo -v, I see all the printers.  But when I open evince and click print, I don't see any printers
[12:51] <hipitihop> Jack_Sparrow, your warning noted thanks
[12:51] <pbx> Often when I fire up my laptop, the wireless connection doesn't take until I restart again. After a second (warm) boot, it always work. I'm curious 1) why this might be happening and 2) what tools I might use to try to jump-start it without rebooting.
[12:52] <elder> could someone post me a website they know has flash on it.
[12:52] <elder> trying to see if ive done my installs correctly
[12:53] <Scarey> www.adobe.com/flashplayer
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> pbx: try this next time  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:53] <elder> Thank you.
[12:53] <mikebeecham> Quick Question....can I remove lots of backgrounds from the "Background" window in one go?
[12:53] <vincenz> Not only that, I have two 'Printing' entries in my System->Administration and they're different
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: You know about the current flash issue right?
[12:53] <pbx> jack-desktop, Nice, thanks.
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[12:54] <pbx> er, Jack_Sparrow :)
[12:54] <joha> Hi again
[12:54] <elder> Jack_sparrow: no i dont.
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pbx: If that works then there are ways to have it run after normal boot
[12:55] <joha> How can I find out what Ubuntu package of all Ubuntu packages a certain file is in?
[12:55] <ikonia> mikebeecham: I don't believe so
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[12:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:55] <ikonia> joha: do you mean find the correct deb name for a package
[12:55] <elder> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you.
[12:55] <axz> can someone help me how to encrypt my partition?
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> elder: Just didnt want you chasing your tail over that problem...  There is a workaround if you MUST have flash now
[12:55] <seanh> Hi folks --  I have a laptop that is crashing a lot and fsck is finding filesystem errors on every boot, even after correcting them each time. Before resorting to a reinstall of Ubuntu, is there any test I can run from Ubuntu to find it if it is a software or hardware problem? i.e. can I test the hard drive, rather than the filesystem, somehow? Thanks
[12:55] <joha> ikonia: I need a file, /etc/emacs/site-start.d/00debian-vars.el, and want to know what package I have to install to get it
[12:55] <Sonja> what does this mean:  libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function.  User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported.
[12:55] <mikebeecham> ikonia: sad :(
[12:56] <axz> i want to encrypt my music partition
[12:56] <elder> Jack_Sparrow: I think i can manage without it :P
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[12:56] <Taggarda> Hey
[12:56] <Taggarda> How do I change the name that appears at "user@systemname" from the console?
[12:57] <ynef> Taggarda: check out bash's documentation about the PS1 prompt :-)
[12:57] <Bernd> in /etc/profile
[12:57] <Pici> !hostname | Taggarda
[12:57] <ubotu> Taggarda: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[12:57] <Taggarda> Thanks all of you
[12:58] <ynef> Taggarda: as you see, you've gotten a lot of answers -- what exactly did you want to accomplish? :-)
[12:58] <Bernd> :)
[12:58] <Taggarda> ynef: What ubotu, and by extension what Pici said
[12:58] <pvl> i think gnome broke
[12:58] <ynef> Taggarda: ah, very well then :-)
[12:58] <ShredZ> I get vsync in glxgears but not in compiz-fusion (and I enabled the option in ccsm). Anyone know why ?
[12:59] <ShredZ> (I'm using intel driver in aiglx mode)
[12:59] <Taggarda> ynef: Now I will reboot
[12:59] <sjt> jack_Sparrow: I can't really see what it is that I have to do, maybe I need to understand it a bit more. I'm not really sure what to do once I've pushed F6 or what noapic is
[12:59] <pvl> i cant see any panels, or close buttons nd so forth, i think Gnome broke
[13:00]  * vincenz takes a baited breath
[13:00] <ynef> pvl: did you change anything recently? have you tried to log out and back in again?
[13:01] <bentob0x> is it easy to install ubuntu on a medion?
[13:01] <pvl> ynef ive been trying to log back in and out for a while, but what i remember doing was trying to set a transparent terminal as my background, for that i installed devilspie and made a gnome terminal theme. im currently logged as failsafe, and cannot call gnome terminal
[13:02] <ikonia> bentob0x: if your hardware is supported, it will be very easy
[13:02] <ynef> pvl: i'm not familiar with that program, sorry :-(
[13:03] <ChrisGibbs> gday
[13:03] <pvl> ynef, well its definlty not causing problems. im more interested in if its possible to call gnome from a terminal
[13:03] <elder> brb
[13:03] <bentob0x> k I just wanted to know if anybody got the experience already
[13:03] <bentob0x> thx ikonia
[13:03] <ynef> pvl: what do you mean, do you mean that you want to start up gnome from a terminal? if so, issue the command gnome-session
[13:03] <ChrisGibbs> did devilspie mess up boot pvl?
[13:04] <Stacky> hey, I'm having major troubles installing ubuntu on a Compaq Armada Pentium 3. I tried to install it and it froze at 90% installation, 'Detecting Hardware'. I have tried to install again, and it has appeared to complete the installation, but when I boot without the CD, it just says 'Error locationg Operating System'.
[13:04] <yfk> my mplayer takes about 10 seconds to load, what could cause this?
[13:04] <B-rabbit> pvl, to set a transparent background u don't need to install devils pie...u can make it transparent from edit > profile
[13:05] <Stacky> Does anyone have any tips for a newb?
[13:05] <B-rabbit> learn the terminal commands
[13:05] <B-rabbit> first
[13:05] <yfk> Stacky: I think it's noob
[13:05] <ChrisGibbs> Stacky: where does it freeze? do you see a Grub menu?
[13:05] <seanh> Can anyone tell me how to backup only the hidden files in a folder using grsync? I need to somehow specify a pattern that matches only the dot files. If someone can tell me the command-line rsync option that would do
[13:05] <ikonia> Stacky: Stacky what's up
[13:05] <pbx> What does "The following packages have been kept back" mean?
[13:05] <pbx> (in aptitude)
[13:06] <pvl> B-rabbit, well the concept is to have it embedded into my background, hence devilpie
[13:06] <Stacky> It got to 90% of the installation progress bar
[13:06] <Stacky> and froze completely
[13:06] <pvl> ynef, thanksi need to log out bc i can only use 1 term at a time
[13:06] <yfk> pbx: that you're not using the most recent package, by choice
[13:06] <pbx> yfk, how might I have expressed that choice?
[13:06] <ikonia> Stacky: is your hardwware up to standard and supported ?
[13:07] <Stacky> Yes.
[13:07] <ChrisGibbs> Stacky: i thought the 2nd attempt was fine?
[13:07] <yfk> pbx: in synaptic you can "lock version"
[13:07] <Stacky> yeah, but then when i boot without the disk, I get an error
[13:07] <Stacky> its not finding the OS
[13:07] <Stacky> or is unable to read i
[13:07] <ikonia> Stacky: if it's froze at 90 the OS is not installed
[13:08] <pbx> yfk, hm. I use aptitude at the command-line only, and don't recall singling out any packages for locking. Is there some other way that can happen?  (And how do I undo it?)  Thanks...
[13:08] <Stacky> i installed it again, and it seemed to work
[13:08] <yfk> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/prevent-apt-get-from-upgrading-a-package-449984/
[13:08] <ikonia> Stacky: it didn't
[13:09] <Stacky> so i've discovered
[13:10] <Stacky> i've tried to reinstall several ties, and it just isnt working
[13:10] <pbx> seanh, see the "Filter rules" section of the rsync manpage
[13:11] <ikonia> Stacky: try mounting the disks from the ubuntu live cd and seeing if it did actually install anything
[13:11] <Stacky> I'm about to give up on ubuntu, can anyone suggest another linux distro, preferably suited to older computers?
[13:12] <white_eagle> I have a problem when I run OpenArena and all others 3D games, when I run the game everything is fine, but when I went to play everything is scrambled, like I don't have a supported graphics card, I have ATI Radeon 200M series with proprietary drivers and compiz runs fine
[13:12] <ikonia> Stacky: any older distro, but to be honest, if your hardwares not supported, it won't be supported in others
[13:12] <ikonia> white_eagle: compiz is not a game though, gaming is a lot more fussy
[13:12] <ChrisGibbs> Stacky: Are you sure the hardware is ok in the machine, particularly  the HD?
[13:13] <Stacky> it was runnnign xp fine
[13:13] <ikonia> ChrisGibbs: I want him to mount the disk from the livecd to check it did anything
[13:13] <white_eagle> ikonia: yeah, but I'm not able to play anything else than 2d games
[13:13] <pbx> Stacky, there isn't going to be a magic distro that will solve your problems, but one approach is to download several different distros' live CDs and see which work well with your machine.
[13:13] <white_eagle> I can't play games which want 3d acceleration
[13:13] <white_eagle> and I'm sure that I can play them
[13:13] <ikonia> white_eagle: how can you be sure you can if your not
[13:13] <ChrisGibbs> ikonia: soz missed that msg. Yes good idead :)
[13:14] <white_eagle> ikonia: because my graphics card isn't so bad
[13:14] <ikonia> white_eagle: yes, but your using a card / chipset which has known issues/driver issues
[13:14] <Cereal> I have this weird problem when I try to mount my external harddrive or a USB disk. It tells me that "Cannot mount volume." and: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume." It's only on my EXT2 part of the external HDD it does this. Not the NTFS O.o Does anyone have any idea how to solve this?
[13:14] <white_eagle> ikonia: so, you are trying to say I cannot play 3d games in linux with my card?
[13:15] <white_eagle> :((( I don't want to install xp again
[13:15] <ChrisGibbs> Ikonia: hopefully it might be grub not properly installed  :)
[13:15] <ikonia> Cereal: 1.) look in the syslog 2.) is this auto mounting or using an option in the fstab
[13:15] <erefasdfsd> hello, i installed ubuntu 7.10 from alternative cd because, ubuntu doesnt recognize my graphic card ATI x1250, instalation end and now when i try to boot ubuntu from GRUB, i got BLACK SCREEN, i got laptop HP 6715s, HELP!
[13:15] <Sonja> white_eagle:  there's something i heard people use to play WoW on Linux
[13:15] <Sonja> find that
[13:15] <Sonja> it's like wine but designed for gamers
[13:15] <white_eagle> Sonja: my problem is different
[13:15] <Sonja> oh
[13:15] <Cereal> Ikonia: Thanks a lot :) I just solved it to :P Forgot to mount it in Gparted :( But thanks a lot ^ ^
[13:15] <ikonia> white_eagle: I'm saying you are using a chipset/card/drivers which are famous for having weak linux support so you may have limited 3d support, you may not
[13:15] <ikonia> CelticSoul: welcome
[13:15] <ikonia> oops
[13:15] <erefasdfsd> hello, i installed ubuntu 7.10 from alternative cd because, ubuntu doesnt recognize my graphic card ATI x1250, instalation end and now when i try to boot ubuntu from GRUB, i got BLACK SCREEN, i got laptop HP 6715s, HELP!
[13:15] <white_eagle> ikonia: so I can't
[13:16] <speedhunt3r> hello everyone happy new year! =)
[13:16] <Pici> !patience | erefasdfsd
[13:16] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:16] <seanh> thanks pbx
[13:16] <white_eagle> erefasdfsd, thats a known problem
[13:16] <ikonia> white_eagle: I didn't say you can't, I'm warning you that there maybe limitations within any linux ditro due to your card/drivers
[13:16] <erefasdfsd> how to fix it
[13:16] <white_eagle> try waiting and ubuntu will load
[13:16] <erefasdfsd> ok
[13:16] <erefasdfsd> il try, ill come back if that doesnt work
[13:16] <speedhunt3r> is there news about 8.04 coming out soon? Henry Heron or something like that?
[13:16] <ikonia> speedhunt3r: it comes out in the 4th month of the 2008 year
[13:17] <white_eagle> !hardy | speedhunt3r
[13:17] <ubotu> speedhunt3r: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:17] <Sarazar> erefasdfsd, you need to get the restricted ati drivers or download then from ati web site
[13:17] <ikonia> speedhunt3r: don't expect any news about it being sooner - it won't be
[13:17] <Cereal> How do I set up permission for me to write to my External HDD?
[13:17] <wols_> Cereal: what filesystem?
[13:17] <Stacky> ok
[13:17] <ikonia> Cereal: the ext2 partition ?
[13:17] <Cereal> Wols_: EXT3 and NTFS
[13:17] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g > Cereal
[13:17] <Cereal> Ikonia: Found out it's an EXT3 partition, but yes :)
[13:17] <Stacky> when selecting 'boot from local disks', i am getting the same error
[13:17] <wols_> for ext3, nothing to do. ntfs you need to mount it with the proper uid and umask
[13:18] <Cereal> Ikonia: WHere Do do I write that? O.o
[13:18] <white_eagle> eref, I had the same problem when loading with ati, the boot screen cannot be fixed, you just wait and ubuntu will load
[13:18] <stefano_> is it possible to put some kind of equalizer between alsa and the sound card? i have such good headphones that everything sounds like crap now.. is there such a thing?
[13:18] <Cereal> wols_: How do I do that? :)
[13:18] <ikonia> Cereal: that link should help you with ntfs, for ext3 you just need to make sure the user you are using has write permissions
[13:18] <ikonia> Cereal: check out the link ubotu sent you in a pm
[13:18] <Cereal> Ikonia: Thanks a lot :)
[13:19] <white_eagle> ikonia: so you're saying I have to switch to windows to play games, because ATI isn't linux-friendly
[13:19] <Stacky> ikonia: That didn't work.
[13:19] <white_eagle> and games are low supported
[13:19] <ikonia> white_eagle: I didn't say that at all, I warned you that there maybe limitations within 3d rending because of your card/driver combination
[13:19] <jdh6403> wine can run a lot of windows games
[13:19] <IdleOne> white_eagle: you are missing the point here. what he is saying is that the specific card that YOU have is not linux friendly and you WILL have a hard time getting it to work properly
[13:20] <ikonia> Stacky: what didn't work
[13:20] <wols_> ikonia: it's a onboard "card", so ther isn't much power to begin with
[13:20] <Stacky> ikonia: Stacky: try mounting the disks from the ubuntu live cd and seeing if it did actually install anything
[13:20] <Stacky> doing that gave the same error
[13:20] <ikonia> wols_: I know, I'm just warning him of the potential limitations, but he's just reading what he wants to read
[13:20] <ikonia> Stacky: doing what ?
[13:20] <Jowi> white_eagle, I don't have enough time to give specific instructions but: if compiz runs fine and games does not try turning off compositing (in xorg.conf) and start the game without enabling compiz. it helps me with certain games.
[13:21] <whiteeagle-mk> thanks Jowi
[13:21] <ikonia> Stacky: I told you to mount the disks from within the livecd - you can't get an "operating system not found" error mounting disks
[13:21] <Stacky> Mounting the disk from the cd
[13:21] <Stacky> oh..
[13:21] <Stacky> i was obviously doing something wrong..
[13:21] <ikonia> Stacky: so you can't get the "same error"
[13:21] <shamrock> I am trying to login in from a remote machine using vncviewer. I have run vnc4server so a new x session is created. I connect from to the right port. But why is it a grey background/plan X desktop and not my usual gnome one? How do I configire xvncserver to prompt me for login id and password and then display my real desktop?
[13:21] <ikonia> Stacky: what did you do
[13:21] <Stacky> got the menu from the CD
[13:22] <wols_> shamrock: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[13:22] <jdh6403> geesus that compiz config settings manager is such a cool thing   the 3d cube thing just kicks ass
[13:22] <MenZa> !ohmy
[13:22] <Stacky> and selected 'boot from first hard disk'
[13:22] <MenZa> >_<
[13:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:22] <IdleOne> jsh6that is great . whatch the language please
[13:22] <ikonia> Stacky: no, you need to boot into the cd's desktop
[13:22] <white_eagle> and where is xorg.conf located?
[13:22] <ikonia> white_eagle: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:22] <jdh6403> ooops  sorry  got over exurberant there
[13:22] <white_eagle> thanks
[13:22] <Stacky> ok, then do what?
[13:22] <IdleOne> jdh6403: hehe it happens
[13:23] <jdh6403> lol IdleOne
[13:23] <shamrock> wols, on the remote systen its metacity.
[13:23] <ikonia> Stacky: then we need to mount the disks.
[13:23] <ikonia> Stacky: are you there yet ?
[13:23] <jdh6403> i just figured out the 3d cube
[13:23] <Stacky> not quite
[13:23] <th0r> cshamrock two things, did you set the password using vncpasswd and did you start a desktop in the xstartup file in ~/.vnc?
[13:23] <ikonia> Stacky: shout when you are there
[13:23] <jdh6403> very nice touch for a desktop
[13:23] <white_eagle> ikonia: permission denied, I must do it with root? Because if I try sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf it says command not found
[13:24] <shamrock> th0r: I have the vnc password set. But that is another level. I want to be able to log in to a new remote x session. it logs me straight in at the moment. but event that is in aside. Why is it a plain X desktop and not my gnome one?
[13:24] <puppt> white_eagle, use gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:24] <aram_> i have just installed the wine and add the program that i want wine to run but i dont know how to run it
[13:24] <aram_> please help
[13:24] <kane77> how can I get list of installed packages in terminal?
[13:25] <th0r> shamrock what desktop are you starting in ~/.vnc/xstartup? by default it starts twm, not gnome
[13:25] <jdh6403> aram did you install it using wine
[13:25] <seanh> pbx -- if I just want to backup one subfolder within a folder, why doesn't this work? --include "myfolder/*" --exclude "*"
[13:25] <aram_> i have just installed the wine and add the program that i want wine to run but i dont know how to run it
[13:25] <shamrock> th0r: and you are quite correct :-;
[13:25] <white_eagle> Section "Extensions" Option		"Composite"	"0"EndSection is turned off or not?
[13:25] <shamrock> thanks!
[13:25] <aram_> wine help?
[13:26] <jdh6403> welp folks   off to work i go...
[13:26] <Jowi> aram, #winehq
[13:26] <jdh6403> bbl
[13:26] <white_eagle> #winehq
[13:26] <speedhunt3r> how do i search for a file in all my partitions from cli ? is it ls -l something?
[13:26] <aram_> Jowi: what is winhq
[13:26] <Jowi> aram, wine support channel.
[13:26] <aram_> Jowi: where to type it?
[13:27] <th0r> shamrock you might look into NX to replace vnc
[13:27] <root_> im not sure exactly whats wrong but my desktop looks really weird
[13:27] <Jowi> aram, /join #winehq
[13:27] <white_eagle> root_ logoff
[13:27] <white_eagle> do NOT go into IRC as root
[13:27] <Jowi> aram, type it right where you type your messages
[13:27] <aram_> Jowi: thanks
[13:27] <th0r> speedhunt3r find / -name <filename>
[13:27] <ikonia> white_eagle: why ?
[13:27] <th0r> speedhunt3r a better bet is to install the find-utils and use locate
[13:27] <aram_> Jowi: no user there just 1 :)
[13:28] <root_> white_eagle, yes it told me, but onfurtnely the only wy i could get anything to run is through a failsafe on my normal login
[13:28] <white_eagle> ikonia: I heard there is a virus spreading via IRC when you are logged in as root
[13:28] <white_eagle> I forgot its name
[13:28] <ikonia> white_eagle: you heard wrong then
[13:28] <ikonia> white_eagle: there are no "virus spreading"
[13:28] <elder> If i have installed a package.. where can i view the package i installed?
[13:28] <sandr-> kane77, I believe it's the command "  aptitude search ~i "
[13:28] <Pici> white_eagle: Its just condidered bad form.
[13:28] <root_> linux? virus?
[13:28] <root_> what is this?
[13:28] <Jowi> elder, dpkg -L packagename
[13:28] <kane77> sandr-, thanx..
[13:28] <Pici> !rootirc | root_
[13:28] <ubotu> root_: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[13:29] <A_I_> hello
[13:29] <Stacky> ikonia: IT's screwed up. First off, i have a pretty little dialog. 'There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.'
[13:29] <Oneiro> hiho
[13:29] <A_I_> a question about building packages
[13:29] <white_eagle> ikonia: but I'm part right,yes?
[13:29] <root_> fine hold on ill try to get back in through fail safe terminal
[13:29] <A_I_> when is debian/rules:clean called ,
[13:29] <A_I_> ?
[13:30] <Stacky> The top centimetre or so of the screen has sihfted to the bottom, and everythings been moved up
[13:30] <ikonia> white_eagle no, that's not the reason to run as root
[13:30] <Stacky> and everything has a shadow in the correct spot, about a cm below it
[13:30] <shamrock> th0r: I will look into that later. But maybe you can help now? I replaced twm with gdm, now I just get a speckled grey background with a nasty big white mouse cursor. no logins. no icons. no open terminals.
[13:30] <ikonia> Stacky: Stacky apologies I missed the first part of your message
[13:31] <bauer_> which program should i use to unfold a *.bz2 file
[13:31] <Stacky> ikonia: It's screwed up. First off, i have a pretty little dialog. 'There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.'
[13:31] <Stacky> The top centimetre or so of the screen has sihfted to the bottom, and everythings been moved up
[13:31] <Stacky> and everything has a shadow in the correct spot, about a cm below it
[13:31] <th0r> shamrock not gdm...you have to start gnome itself...I think the command is gnome-session
[13:31] <ikonia> Stacky: did this happen the last time you started the livecd ?
[13:31] <r-wolf> I've dl pidgin sources, trying to./configure, and it tells me "You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build." What package is it in?
[13:31] <Stacky> it has happened sometimes
[13:31] <pvl> howd u know that i was root/
[13:31] <Stacky> but not always
[13:32] <Stacky> and it doesnt happen when i go into safe graphics mode
[13:32] <ikonia> Stacky: reboot a few times until it doesn't happen, but it sounds like this laptop has issues with supportability
[13:32] <pvl> r-wolf, use synaptic
[13:32] <th0r> shamrock might have to use 'exec gnome-session'. Since I use xfce I am not sure
[13:32] <ikonia> Stacky: how much ram does this laptop have ?
[13:32] <r-wolf> pvl: sure, but pidgin 2.3.1 isn't yet at repository
[13:33] <Stacky> i think 256
[13:33] <elder> how would i add a file to a package?
[13:33] <Stacky> which is technically just enough, but probably isnt
[13:33] <ikonia> Stacky: that should be enough
[13:33] <pvl> r-wolf, oh well i guess u can search synaptic around for the package, i had the same problem, think i jsut went to pidgins website adn downlaod the .deb
[13:33] <puppt> r-wolf, the package is called libglib2.0 i believe
[13:33] <th0r> r-wolf pidgin 2.3.1 in in the Gnome Community repo
[13:34] <ChrisGibbs> r-wolf: i think there is a deb on the pidgin website....
[13:34] <cornix> arrrr.... damn ati drivers are driving me insane...
[13:34] <xiodioxider> cornix mine work fine
[13:35] <xiodioxider> cornix, , and i have used linux for 3 days ;)
[13:35] <cornix> neither can I get 1 screen to work in 1680*1050 nor can I get dual.head to work
[13:35] <cornix> and aticonfig throws errors for me :(
[13:35] <r-wolf> th0r: thanks, already searching....
[13:35] <lkundrak> jesus christ, so many people
[13:36] <xiodioxider> i have a problem with the the worksspaces, when i press the otherone, everything on the screen disspers exept the bg
[13:36] <cornix> yay, no more join/part messages :D
[13:36] <xiodioxider> i can run alt+f2 and start programs
[13:36] <xiodioxider> but its all blank
[13:36] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[13:37] <Liquid> xiodioxider that happened on my other computer too I have no idea why a bug I think
[13:38] <xiodioxider> Liquid, i dont whant to reistall
[13:38] <xiodioxider> Liquid, to get that ati driver working to ages
[13:38] <pvl> is there a command to start the panels at the top nd bottom?
[13:38] <Liquid> this was a nvidia 6800 on that machine
[13:38] <Do``> when i log into ubuntu, i get a 'Failed to initialize HAL' error and the forums say it's caused by automatic login, but i don't have automatic login
[13:38] <kwstassat> hi
[13:38] <Do``> could someone help me figure out why i'm getting the error?
[13:39] <erefasdfsd> :( i just waited for 15 minutes, and guess what nothing happened?? :((
[13:39] <Stacky> ikonia: It's working now, i reloaded in safe graphics mode
[13:39] <ikonia> Stacky: do you know how to use gparted ?
[13:39] <Stacky> no
[13:39] <kwstassat> if you want to learn something for ubuntu and satellites  www.sharing-forum.com
[13:39] <cornix> yay spam
[13:39] <Stacky> i can work it out though
[13:39] <erefasdfsd> will any1 help me
[13:39] <erefasdfsd> :( i just waited for 15 minutes, and guess what nothing happened?? :((
[13:40] <rocky> is there a "preferred" ubuntu network distributed backup solution these days ?
[13:40] <erefasdfsd> i got only black screen
[13:40] <AdvoWork> weird Q but is there a way to wake up a server from the terminal? basically monitor/keyboard/mouse were plugged into other server, ive just taken them out and put into this server, and the screens blank even though its running/working, so i need to sort of wake it up? :S
[13:41] <erefasdfsd> help me!!
[13:41] <erefasdfsd> :( i just waited for 15 minutes, and guess what nothing happened?? :((
[13:41] <WorkingOnWise> how would I allow an app to interrupt the boot process to ask for a password?
[13:41] <Drainman> AdvoWork: cant you ssh to it
[13:41] <Stacky> ikonia: what do i have to do?
[13:42] <AdvoWork> Drainman yea, i am doing already, but i need the UI
[13:42] <ikonia> Stacky: do you know how to use the gparted tool ?
[13:42] <Stacky> no
[13:42] <ikonia> Stacky: ok, thats fine, this is a laptop is it not
[13:42] <Stacky> yes
[13:42] <ikonia> Stacky: ok, lets start by taking a look at the partition table
[13:42] <Drainman> AdvoWork: on the server?? you can allways get to it with vnc or something
[13:42] <xiodioxider> So, do anybody know what to do when the workspace makes the screen go blank and you cant go back?
[13:42] <ikonia> Stacky: have you ever used a pastebin before ?
[13:43] <kiki67100> Do you speak french please ?
[13:43] <ikonia> !fr > kiki67100
[13:43] <Stacky> no
[13:43] <erefasdfsd> i got hp compaq 6715s, i installed ubuntu 7.10 from alternative cd because ubuntu doesnt recognize my graphic card ATI x1250, so after i installed and tryed to boot ubuntu witht grub, i got BLANK screen
[13:43] <Stacky> i've never used linux
[13:43] <xtas> Hmm. I just installed mplayer and edited the .mplayer/gui.conf to vo_driver to gl2 but all videos I try to look are like slow motion
[13:43] <kiki67100> ikonia, thx
[13:43] <enning> ciao
[13:43] <ikonia> Stacky: ok, a pastebin is a web interface to a website that you can paste text into to share with others (for example)
[13:43] <ikonia> !pastebin | Stacky
[13:43] <ubotu> Stacky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:44] <Slart> I'm looking to minimize unecessary writing to hard drives.. would disabling logging let my hard drives spin down in peace? would anything break if I disabled the syslog service?
[13:44] <ikonia> Stacky: are you able to access that url ?
[13:44] <Do``> when i log into ubuntu, i get a 'Failed to initialize HAL' error and the forums say it's caused by automatic login, but i don't have automatic login. could someone help me with this?
[13:44] <enning> ciao
[13:44] <toplok> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 and now I need subversion (svn). I have uncommented all repositories from sources.lst but can't find it if I do a sudo apt-get install subversion. Help! :)
[13:44] <enning> now
[13:44] <erefasdfsd> i got hp compaq 6715s, i installed ubuntu 7.10 from alternative cd because ubuntu doesnt recognize my graphic card ATI x1250, so after i installed and tryed to boot ubuntu witht grub, i got BLANK screen
[13:44] <Drainman> xtas: why do you need it to be gl2?
[13:44] <Stacky> yes
[13:44] <AdvoWork> Drainman it says it cant remote desktop to it :s
[13:44] <ikonia> Do``: that can be caused by many things, does the syslog show anything of interest ?
[13:44] <Slart> !info subversion
[13:44] <ubotu> subversion: Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4dfsg1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 235 kB, installed size 3392 kB
[13:44] <Do``> ikonia: let me check
[13:44] <murf3326> What is the newsreader of choice for Ubuntu 7.10?  I found some older posts in the forums related to newsreaders but they are a little dated.  I'm curious to see what everyone else is using.
[13:44] <Drainman> AdvoWork: have you started x on the server
[13:44] <ikonia> Stacky: ok great, from a terminal can you put the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" into the pastebin and give me the url for your paste please.
[13:45] <Slart> toplok: did you get an error?
[13:45] <Drainman> AdvoWork: you need to have x to run vnc server on it i think'
[13:45] <Do``> ikonia: how do i check what the syslog says? :)
[13:45] <r-wolf> erefasdfsd: try change "splash" to "nosplash" in grub.lst, line "kernel .." and see what happens
[13:45] <toplok> Slart, what package should I install ?
[13:45] <AWak3N> is there anybody who knows sth about TRUECRYPT?
[13:45] <kwstassat> if you want to learn something for ubuntu and satellites  www.sharing-forum.com
[13:45] <ikonia> Do``: open it with a text editor
[13:45] <Slart> toplok: subversion I guess
[13:45] <Do``> ikonia: it...?
[13:45] <ikonia> kwstassat: please don't point not-requested urls
[13:46] <Slart> toplok: if you run "sudo apt-get install subversion" what do you get?
[13:46] <AdvoWork> Drainman is there any other way i can wake it up then lol
[13:46] <ikonia> Do``: the syslog /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog
[13:46] <toplok> Slart, no package found
[13:46] <Do``> ah thanks
[13:46] <WorkingOnWise> AWak3N: I'm working on encrypting a partiton with truecrypt now...not an expert, but i know stuff..  :)
[13:46] <WorkingOnWise> how would I allow an app to interrupt the boot process to ask for a password?
[13:46] <kwstassat> ok sorry
[13:46] <pvl> uhm just gonna say that i restarted, and gnome seesm fine
[13:46] <Drainman> AdvoWork: dont know actually never had that kind of problem :)
[13:46] <fkling> hi, I just bought a LCD monitor (LG Flatron 227) and I don't know how to get the "real" solution 1680*1050, I found some hints with setting the modeline manually but I don't know which modeline I need...
[13:46] <toplok> what repositories should I uncomment from sources.lst ? all of them ?
[13:46] <Slart> toplok: did you copy/paste what I wrote? no typos?
[13:46] <ikonia> toplok: which ever ones you want to use
[13:47] <toplok> Slart, yes, no typos
[13:47] <Drainman> AdvoWork: but why do you need UI on a server??
[13:47] <toplok> its quite strange...
[13:47] <Slart> toplok: start the "software sources" app.. it's in system, administration
[13:47] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[13:47] <ikonia> Drainman: not all servers are headless
[13:47] <Do``> ikonia: the only lines in syslog with HAL in them are the 'new device added' lines from boot
[13:47] <chazco> AWak3N - I've used truecrypt a bit... may be able to help
[13:47] <AdvoWork> Drainman i dont now, fixed my issue :p
[13:47] <AdvoWork> cheers anwyay
[13:47] <ikonia> Do``: what is the new device
[13:48] <toplok> Slart, ok, going to reboot and try again, thanks
[13:48] <Drainman> ikonia: no ofcourse not. but it should be fixable by the terminal
[13:48] <Slart> toplok: reboot? don't
[13:48] <Drainman> AdvoWork: Great!
[13:48] <Do``> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/m5b001338 <-
[13:48] <ikonia> Drainman: what should be fixable, I didn't see him say he had a problem
[13:48] <Slart> toplok: just reload the package list and try again
[13:48] <Do``> all 106 lines
[13:48] <elder> how would one enable a root ability?
[13:48] <Drainman> ikonia: your right he didnt
[13:48] <fkling> some LCD monitor installation experts here? :)
[13:49] <ikonia> Drainman: ok, so we can't fix something that doesn't have a problem
[13:49] <toplok> Slart, yes, I know. But the problem is not in this ubuntu I am using now (7.10), its on another machine (vmware)
[13:49] <ikonia> fkling: if you just ask the question people will help if they can
[13:49] <fkling> hi, I just bought a LCD monitor (LG Flatron 227) and I don't know how to get the "real" solution 1680*1050, I found some hints with setting the modeline manually but I don't know which modeline I need...
[13:49] <Slart> toplok: ahh.. ok.. sorry =)
[13:49] <toplok> I'll be back in a moment :) thanks!
[13:49] <fkling> already asked
[13:49] <ikonia> Do``: thats odd I'm not sure why that's happening
[13:49] <r-wolf> fkling: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:50] <Slart> fkling: I have one of those.. I think I had some problems with it too.. can't remember what I did really
[13:50] <Drainman> ikonia: no that might be hard :). but i dont really get why you would need UI on a server, i have never needed it.
[13:50] <ikonia> fkling: I didn't see it, I can respond to a question if I know, but I can't repond to "any lcd experts"
[13:50] <ikonia> Drainman: there are many reasons to have a graphical based server (offtopic)
[13:50] <Sonja> where do i put these files? http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=8799 it's a plugin for gimp
[13:50] <Slart> fkling: I remember looking up the horiz and vert freq's on the makers site... I don't think I had to create a modeline myself
[13:50] <elder> im trying to "dpkg-reconfigure quake2-data"  but i need to do it as root
[13:50] <elder> im on 7.10
[13:50] <sarmisak> fkling: are you using ati card?
[13:50] <Pici> !sudo | elder
[13:50] <ubotu> elder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[13:50] <AWak3N> any TRUECRYPT expert in here?!
[13:51] <fkling> no, nvidia
[13:51] <fkling> but an old one
[13:51] <ikonia> AWak3N: ask your question
[13:51] <elder> Pici: sudo dpkg-recon?
[13:51] <cornix> fkling: I got the same problem, but with ATI
[13:51] <WorkingOnWise> how would I allow an app to interrupt the boot process to ask for a password?
[13:51] <mint> can i dual boot xp and ubuntu on the same hd??
[13:51] <ikonia> mint: sure
[13:51] <Pici> elder: yep, just prefix the command with sudo and provide your user's password.
[13:51] <Pici> !dualboot | mint
[13:51] <ubotu> mint: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[13:51] <fkling> hmm, ok, I'Äm not sure if the LG guys care about Linux
[13:51] <elder> Pici: Thank you.
[13:51] <fkling> but I'll look if they have something on their websit
[13:51] <sarmisak> fkling: did you connect the monitor through dvi?
[13:51] <Do``> ikonia: any suggestions?
[13:51] <fkling> no, vga
[13:51] <Slart> fkling: no.. but they usually have some kind of data leaflet with the data you need
[13:52] <ikonia> Do``: just pondering why you are having that behaviour
[13:52] <davidwinter> Hi all. Are there any alternatives to MythTV?
[13:52] <ikonia> Do``: has it always done that - since day one of the install
[13:52] <ikonia> davidwinter: mythtv is a suite, what do you want to do
[13:52] <sarmisak> fkling: hmms, if it's an old card it might not be supporting that large resolution, have you checked the documentation of the card?
[13:52] <Do``> ikonia: no, this ubuntu was installed when 7.04 was released, then updated to 7.10 and this is the first time i see it
[13:52] <Sonja> how do i make a certain program auto-open everytime i enter ubuntu
[13:52] <sarmisak> fkling: you can find them at nvidia.com or through google
[13:53] <ikonia> Do``: I can only assume that something failed during the upgrade
[13:53] <Slart> Sonja: check out "sessions" in system, preferences
[13:53] <cornix> my ati card supports that res under Win just fine
[13:53] <davidwinter> ikonia: I was just wondering if there are any alternatives - want to try them out to see which I prefer
[13:53] <Apocalypse_dn> Can i trust gparted about saving my info?
[13:53] <Sonja> thanks
[13:53] <ikonia> sarmisak: why does he need to get eh nvidia.com drivers ?
[13:53] <Apocalypse_dn> will it save my data?
[13:53] <ikonia> davidwinter: alternatives for what, the whole suite or say just watching tv
[13:53] <ikonia> davidwinter: myth is a whole suite
[13:53] <rexy> whats the importance of --sn-disable for nm-applet?
[13:53] <Do``> ikonia: it was upgraded 3 months ago, the error message appeared today and i didn't have any new updates in the update manager yesterday
[13:53] <davidwinter> ikonia: watching, recording
[13:53] <sarmisak> ikonia: have i said "get drivers"?
[13:53] <davidwinter> (TV)
[13:53] <fkling> ok, it's a geforce ti 4200 supporting 2048*... I guess then it shoudl also support 1680*1050?!
[13:53] <Stacky> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50492/
[13:53] <ikonia> davidwinter: ok, so it did work
[13:53] <ikonia> davidwinter: there are a few in synaptics
[13:54] <ikonia> sarmisak: I thought you said you can get them from nvidia.com ?
[13:54] <WorkingOnWise> davidwinter: search synaptic for elisa
[13:54] <xtas> Hmm. okay, I don't like this Ubuntu at all. what other distro I shall try?
[13:54] <xtas> suse? mandriva?
[13:54] <Pici> !offtopic | xtas
[13:54] <ubotu> xtas: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:54] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: It rarely destroys data.. if that's what you mean..
[13:54] <chazco> AWak3N - I've used Truecrypt
[13:54] <ikonia> sarmisak: apologies, you mentioned docs
[13:54] <sarmisak> ikonia: ;)
[13:54] <sentano> I'm to make a separate /home partition using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome. I get error message "mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist"..  I suspect my sudo is broken.. How do I know for sure?
[13:55] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: unless you tell it to.. then it happily eats all your stuff =)
[13:55] <Slart> xtas: what didn't you like about it?
[13:55] <sarmisak> has anyone here made wine to run any CAD application like autocad, zwcad, etc?
[13:55] <AWak3N> re: TRUECRYPT: how do i detect a plugged in truecrypt-device???
[13:55] <ikonia> sentano thats nothing to do with sudo
[13:55] <Pici> sentano: Sounds like /dev/hda2 doesnt exist, does it? are you sure that is the name of your device?
[13:55] <Apocalypse_dn> Slart. but always it safely?
[13:55] <ikonia> sentano: ls -la /dev/hda2
[13:55] <ikonia> sentano: what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:56] <Slart> sarmisak: check the application database.. appdb.winehq.org
[13:56] <ikonia> Pici: I suspect its libata and ubuntu 7.10
[13:56] <xtas> This is somehow confusing. cant really say why but atleast fedora and mandriva have been easier to conf etc.
[13:56] <chazco> AWak3N - Due to way Truecrypt works it is impossible to detect a truecrypt device, thats part of the idea for its security
[13:56] <Pici> ikonia: ah, good thinking.
[13:56] <sentano> ikonia: 7.10
[13:56] <ikonia> sentano: ok - ls -la /dev/sda and ls -la /dev/hda
[13:56] <ikonia> sentano: which exists, I suspect it's /dev/sda
[13:56] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: It has always been stable for me.. no problems at all.. but I can't promise anything... it is the standard tool for doing what it does though so I'd trust it
[13:56] <chazco> AWak3N - If you connect, say a USB stick, it'll show in dmesg as a device, but it wont recognise it as being truecrypt'ed
[13:56] <sarmisak> xtas: debian based systems are a bit confusing at first, but believe me after getting used to it it's much simpler
[13:56] <roydog> hi guys
[13:57] <Stacky> hi roydog
[13:57] <roydog> where do I go for development help?
[13:57] <AWak3N> chazco: but how can i then map/mount a device if i dont know the device path?
[13:57] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: what are you doing? resizing ntfs drives?
[13:57] <Apocalypse_dn> Slart, ok thanks i trust you
[13:57] <Apocalypse_dn> Slart, yeah ;-)
[13:57] <Sonja> in what folder do i put these files? http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=8799 for gimp
[13:57] <chazco> You can find the /dev/xxx path from dmesg, that'll be there, but it wont be marked as truecrypt specifically
[13:57] <ikonia> Stacky: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media
[13:58] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: there was one guy in here last week that had his ntfs drive messed up after a resize.. that's why I'm kind of careful..
[13:58] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: but you, of course, have regular backups.. like we all have.. right? =)
[13:58] <AWak3N> chazco: omg... how do i know which one's the truecrypt device then in the list?
[13:58] <kitche> Sonja: it tells you int he readme
[13:58] <Stacky> ok ikonia, did that
[13:58] <Stacky> and nothing happened
[13:58] <Apocalypse_dn> Slart, yes, you're right
[13:58] <Sonja> ok. thonks
[13:58] <chazco> AWak3N - Disconnect, then reconnect it... run "dmesg" in the terminal and look at the last few lines
[13:59] <ikonia> Stacky: thats fine, now in a terminal "cd /media"
[13:59] <AWak3N> ok i will try that
[13:59] <Stacky> yeah
[13:59] <ikonia> Stacky: now "ls -la"
[13:59] <Apocalypse_dn> Maybe, i'll make backup into my note book
[13:59] <ikonia> Stacky: do you see a file system
[13:59] <Apocalypse_dn> Slart, thanks for info)
[13:59] <Stacky> it says /media$
[13:59] <Stacky> thats it
[14:00] <Slart> Apocalypse_dn: you're welcome
[14:00] <ikonia> Stacky: ok - so can you put the output of "mount" into the pastebin please and send me the link
[14:00] <Stacky> erg
[14:00] <Stacky> ok
[14:00] <ikonia> Stacky: thats just one command "mount"
[14:00] <Stacky> one minute
[14:00] <Stacky> i know
[14:01] <Stacky> but i'm on a diffefernt
[14:01] <ikonia> Stacky: ok, just checking, making it clear
[14:01] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[14:01] <Stacky> compueter
[14:01] <NoFlag> has ubuntu got a installed ready-to-use python?
[14:01] <ikonia> NoFlag: yup
[14:01] <NoFlag> an*
[14:01] <NoFlag> ikonia, ok, thanks
[14:01] <whitehat> hello.I'm running xubuntu 7.10 on an older laptop.when I run network-admin I receive error messages indicating it cannot read the configuration file yet I supply root password.ideas?
[14:02] <Sonja> kitche: can you help me step by step in a pm?
[14:02] <biabia> if i install the kde (kubuntu) and kfce (xubuntu) desktops in ubuntu, is that pretty much the same as the full install of those, or not really
[14:02] <amer> hi , how to make service start when system boot?
[14:02] <Do``> ikonia: i just restarted and now i didn't get the error message
[14:02] <ikonia> biabia: full install of the desktop, yes
[14:02] <amer> hi , how to make service start when system boot? please any help
[14:02] <ikonia> Do``: sounds like something (hal) just failed to startup
[14:02] <ikonia> !upstart > amer
[14:02] <chazco> ikonia - Sorry to keep bothering you with this but do you know if I need to make an entry in usr/share/application-registry for my .deb?
[14:03] <ikonia> amer: check the pm from ubotu
[14:03] <seanh> Does anyone know, if I run grsync *without* the "Always Checksum" option checked (I already started it), does it do some checking? Can I be confident in the backup?
[14:03] <Do``> ikonia: however i noticed something else, i have 'extra effects' enabled and it didn't start, it didn't start the last time either
[14:03] <chazco> Same for usr/share/menu
[14:03] <AWak3N> chazco: isnt there some kind of way to simply mount all the truecrypt devices, like there is in windows?
[14:03] <ikonia> chazco: I think thats not mandatory
[14:03] <Do``> ikonia: if i manually try to start it from the terminal, it says 'segmentation fault' after the checks
[14:03] <ikonia> Do``: what video card do you have ?
[14:03] <xtas> Slart: for instance how can I change resolution from 1024x 768 to 1280x1024?
[14:03] <Do``> gf 7600gt
[14:03] <xtas> using KDE
[14:04] <chazco> AWak3N - I think you can make a list of favourites, but be careful since USB device paths can change...
[14:04] <chazco> ikonia - ok thanks
[14:04] <biabia> ikonia, Thanks. I mean like if I installed kubuntu on another machine, and on this machine with ubuntu but i sign on with the kubuntu desktop, its the same features and programs?
[14:04] <Do``> ikonia: geforce 7600gt
[14:04] <ikonia> Do``: what drivers are you using
[14:04] <ikonia> biabia: ubuntu is the packaged OS, the desktop gnome/kde/xfce are seperate
[14:04] <WorkingOnWise> how would I allow an app to interrupt the boot process to ask for a password?
[14:04] <Stacky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50495/
[14:04] <Do``> ikonia: the one from the restricted drivers: nvidia-glx-new:  Installed: 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10
[14:04] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: just alter the init script to want a password
[14:04] <Slart> xtas: it doesn't let you do that automatically?
[14:04] <biabia> hm ok
[14:05] <xtas> no
[14:05] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: you'll have to remove the bootsplash
[14:05] <r-wolf> if I install deb's separately (dpkg), will the next releases be updated correctly from the repo?
[14:05] <Do``> ikonia: the restricted drivers manager says it's in use and status is green :)
[14:05] <Pici> r-wolf: no.
[14:05] <xtas> at gnome desktop there wasnt that option available. 1024x768 was highest and here in KDE I can't even find the whole thing where to change it
[14:05] <ikonia> Do``: no idea, looks like compiz-fusion is not happy using compiz. I suggest asking in #compiz-fusion they may know more about driver/compiz interoperability
[14:05] <Do``> ikonia: it was working yesterday... :/
[14:06] <Do``> something happened when i turned the pc off last night
[14:06] <AWak3N> chazco: can i assign a label to the truecrypt device and then mount it via label?
[14:06] <Slart> xtas: I'm not sure that process is any easier on other distro's.. afaik they all use x.org...  I can't really guide you around KDE since I've never used it myself.. have you  tried asking in #kubuntu?
[14:06] <Stacky> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50495/
[14:06] <Pici> r-wolf: Apt only can update packages that exist in the apt database, packages installed manually dont get stuck there.
[14:06] <chazco> AWak3N - I'm not sure, sorry
[14:06] <ikonia> Do``: but it's not now
[14:06] <ikonia> Stacky: ok
[14:06] <Do``> ye.. i'll ask them
[14:06] <r-wolf> Pici: ok, I got it
[14:06] <Do``> thanks for the help though \o/
[14:07] <xtas> no I havn't tried yet. And on other distros I've used there has been the option for change it ;)
[14:07] <AWak3N> chazco: thx anyway
[14:07] <ikonia> Stacky: ok, that tells me a lot thank you. The situation is the installer has created the partitions and file systems for you, however it looks like no packages have been installed, nor a boot loader, which explains why you get the error you get
[14:08] <TimS> What is the path to the Terminal/Name of the terminal program?
[14:08] <Do``> ikonia: 1 more thing if i may. i have a fujitsu siemens p17-2 lcd monitor, capable of 75hz @ 1280x1024, but the screens & graphics only shows 50hz. how could i make ubuntu use 75hz or at least 60hz?
[14:08] <cornix> Why isn't aticonfig working for gutsy? :(
[14:08] <Slart> xtas: well.. there is an option in gnome at least.. I'm pretty sure there is one in kde too.. but sometimes drivers can mess things up.. and the configuration for X..
[14:08] <Slart> !res | xtas
[14:08] <ubotu> xtas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:08] <Stacky> ok
[14:08] <Stacky> ikonia: so how would i best remdy this
[14:08] <kikdadog> i needs some help pleaseeeeee
[14:09] <ikonia> Do``: the most common cause of that is ddc /edid info being wrong, you'll have to edit your xorg config by hand to force the frequency you want
[14:09] <TimS> !terminal
[14:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:09] <r-wolf> so, any ideas when is pidgin 2.3.1 expected at GG repo? at getdeb.net, it appeared today
[14:09] <ikonia> Stacky: I don't know why the installer is failing, but it's clear the installer works it's just not completing. I'd try it again. you have a slow machine things may look like they have hung when they have not
[14:09] <kikdadog> i had turned on the backup function in gutsy, well didnt think about again till I ran out of disk space
[14:09] <sentano> I have checked hda using GParted liveCd , and my xp is hda1, ubuntu root hda2, /home hda6, swap hda5. But when I type: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /old, I get "mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist".. happy new year..??
[14:09] <cornix> running sudo aticonfig --initial always throws errors for me
[14:10] <Do``> ikonia: do i have to edit the modeline for the 1280x1024 line?
[14:10] <Stacky> so basically, just keep trying it until it works?
[14:10] <tiredbones> What is the name of the site for pating code to?
[14:10] <kikdadog> so i lookeed in the var/backup folder, logged in as root an deleted all but 1
[14:10] <tiredbones> What is the name of the site for pasting code to?
[14:10] <ikonia> Do``: no, I think you'll need to change your monitor definition and narrow the scope
[14:10] <cornix> !pastebin
[14:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:10] <Sonja> pastebin
[14:10] <ikonia> Sonja: see above
[14:10] <cornix> !pastebin | tiredbones
[14:10] <kikdadog> problem is the disk space is still showing used
[14:10] <ubotu> tiredbones: please see above
[14:10] <tiredbones> thanks
[14:11] <kikdadog> what gives???
[14:11] <Do``> ikonia: is there some kind of guide for this? i'm not comfortable editing stuff there
[14:11] <ikonia> Do``: check on https://help.ubuntu.com I'm sure there are some docs
[14:12] <Do``> thank you
[14:12] <ikonia> Do``: I'm actually in the middle of wrtiting a new "basic functions xorg" page so if you can wait until tommorow, you can test mine for me
[14:12] <Stacky> just one more question ikonia
[14:12] <Do``> alright :)
[14:12] <billy> hello folks, anyone setup a ati video card (hd 2400) on 7.10 successfully? thanks
[14:12] <flaccid> ubuntu is  a fucked distro that has no idea.
[14:12] <Stacky> can you tell me what you saw in that last bit that told you what you needed to know
[14:12] <mint> get mint then
[14:13] <ikonia> Stacky: I saw that your partition table had been created, you had a file system, you just had nothing on the file system
[14:13] <ikonia> mint: we do not support mint in here, so please don't suggest it
[14:13] <Stacky> ok
[14:13] <ikonia> Stacky: does that make sense
[14:13] <Stacky> i'm just trying to work it all out
[14:13] <mint> sorry konia
[14:13] <Stacky> it makes sense, just dunno how you saw that
[14:13] <ikonia> Stacky: I made you go through all that because there is a chance you had everything on there and just no boot loader
[14:14] <ikonia> Stacky: so I was trying to save you some time and effort, it just didn't work out
[14:14] <Stacky> thats cool
[14:14] <axscode> where is ubuntu came from? redhat derivatives or debian?
[14:14] <Stacky> debian
[14:14] <rexy> debian
[14:14] <mint> debian
[14:14] <Stacky> so basically, just keep trying it until it works?
[14:14] <axscode> ok thanks'
[14:14] <ikonia> Stacky: without any sort of error or warning it's tough to progress
[14:14] <axscode> so basically using apt also right?
[14:14] <Stacky> ok
[14:15] <rexy> axscode: yes
[14:15] <axscode> cool
[14:15] <Stacky> next question then, where do i go from here
[14:15] <Stacky> is it worth trying another linux distro?
[14:15] <axscode> question, whats the advantage of unbuntu from debian?
[14:15] <Stacky> or jsut go back to XP?
[14:15] <ikonia> Stacky: well you can try the installer a few more times, pay attention to any little warnings or errors you may have missed
[14:15] <mint> if you dont plays game fuck xp
[14:15] <ikonia> Stacky: you've also got low spec machine so be patient
[14:15] <Pici> !language | mint
[14:15] <ubotu> mint: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:15] <Stacky> sure
[14:15] <ikonia> mint: that language is uncalled ofr
[14:15] <cliebow> less keeo it clean!
[14:15] <ikonia> for
[14:15] <axz> Guys how to make you partition encryoted?
[14:16] <mint> fudge
[14:16] <axscode> Stacky: youtube for Ubuntu + Beryl , i think you will never lookback for XP ever again.
[14:16] <ikonia> Stacky: something that takes 10 minuts, may take an hour on your spec
[14:16] <ikonia> Stacky: so it may not have hung (numlock and capslock keys are a good way to test)
[14:16] <cornix> so, anyone else here experienced aticonfig throwing errors?
[14:16] <Stacky> it definitely hung
[14:16] <ticked> can anyone direct me to a decent tutorial on networking a couple of computers?
[14:16] <Stacky> mouse wasnt responing either
[14:16] <Stacky> but i will try
[14:16] <Sonja> how do i upgrade my graphics card driver? halp.
[14:17] <rexy> axscode: there's a mission statement somewhere , but for me it's just userfriendlyness and more up to date then debian
[14:17] <crush_groove> ticked both of them same os ?
[14:17] <DayRider> Sonja: what king of graphics card do you have?
[14:17] <ynef> ticked: what kind of computers and what equipment do you have?
[14:17] <Stacky> axscode: i have no desire for xp, being an OSX man, but linux is proving problematic
[14:17] <ikonia> Stacky: forget mouse - that can hang too
[14:17] <ticked> crush_groove yup
[14:17] <Stacky> ok
[14:17] <Sonja> not 100% sure but it's a sapphire something or other radeon i tihnk
[14:17] <ticked> bouth ubuntu 7.17 and a dlink router
[14:17] <axscode> oh. hehe
[14:17] <Stacky> is there any other distro you could recommend for a lower spec comp?
[14:17] <kikdadog> anybody help me with the backup problem???
[14:18] <ticked> i just wanna be able to share files
[14:18] <Stacky> i really only need word procesing, email and firefox
[14:18] <bazhang> kikdadog: waht is the problem
[14:18] <rexy> Stacky: xubuntu is pretty good
[14:18] <ikonia> Stacky: not really
[14:18] <sCOTTo> hey guys - need  help :) --> i just installed FluxBuntu - I have a netgear WPN111 wireless usb device i need to install - can someone help me? im on my windows box now....
[14:18] <ynef> ticked: can they "see" eachother? can they both get on the internet?
[14:18] <DayRider> Sonja: install xorg-driver-fglrx in synaptic
[14:18] <Stacky> ok
[14:18] <Stacky> thanks a million for all your help
[14:19] <Sonja> DayRider: will do
[14:19] <ikonia> Stacky: welcome
[14:19] <Stacky> muchly appreciated
[14:19] <Sonja> thanks <3
[14:19] <DayRider> np :)
[14:19] <bazhang> sCOTTo: did you install the fluxbuntu distro or just add xfce to ubuntu
[14:19] <ticked> ynef yup there both on the net
[14:19] <mint> stacky youll love ubuntu
[14:19] <ticked> but they cant see each other
[14:19] <kikdadog> turned on backup a few weeks ago, last night got a low disk error, so I go to the var?backup foolder, log in as root and delete the files all but 1.... but the disk space still shows being used, what did i do wrong???
[14:19] <Stacky> if i can ever make it work :P
[14:19] <sCOTTo> bazhang, I installed the fluxbuntu dist - i have a 600MHz pc with 128 MB memory - it is shocking.
[14:19] <mint> its easy
[14:19] <mint> youll get the hang of it
[14:19] <sCOTTo> it is for my wife to learn how to edit joomla templates etc
[14:19] <crush_groove> ticky >>   http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[14:20] <ikonia> mint: he has no problem with ubuntu, the installer is letting him down
[14:20] <ticked> thanks crush_groove
[14:20] <bazhang> sCOTTo: okay; first thing, have you checked in their channel? #fluxbuntu
[14:20] <mint> ikonia: thats weird
[14:20] <sCOTTo> nope didnt know it existed - shall i go there and leave here?
[14:20] <Sonja> how do i upgrade my graphics card driver after installing xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[14:21] <ikonia> !ati > Sonja
[14:21] <ikonia> Sonja: read the link ubotu has just sent you
[14:21] <Sonja> thanks ikonia <3
[14:21] <bazhang> sCOTTo: I'm happy to try and help, though may just want to join there as well :}
[14:21] <billy> !ati > billy
[14:21] <crush_groove> ticked anytime
[14:21] <sCOTTo> ok ill join but talk to you before i go ahead and bug them - thanks heaps :)
[14:22] <sCOTTo> bazhang, i appreciate the help
[14:22] <kikdadog> baz any Idea???
[14:23] <r-wolf> !ati > r-wolf
[14:23] <bazhang> sCOTTo: the reason I mention their channel is they may have set things up slightly differently--but lets give it a go :} what chipset in that card? can you access the machine in question or is this a dual boot situation?
[14:23] <shamrock> Hi. I need someone to help walk me though getting a gnome login on a remote machine using vnc4server. At the moment I jus get a grey screen with a big ugly black mouse pointer.
[14:23] <ikonia> shamrock: have you read the guide on https://help.ubuntu.com
[14:24] <sCOTTo> bazhang, nope i have access - 1 x windows box & 1 x linux box
[14:24] <PP|Spydon> my old xubuntu computer wont shutdown properly... When I press the shutdown button it stops when the bar is all empty but it doesn't shutdown...
[14:24] <bazhang> kikdadog: you deleted the files from your user space (home) or elsewhere? what did you delete and how much space are we talking?
[14:24] <sCOTTo> bazhang, what do you mean what chipset? it is a USB device WPN111
[14:24] <r-wolf> why are hdd's mounted to /media instead of /mnt ?
[14:25] <kikdadog> 6.1 gigs , and deleted from the var/backup folder
[14:25] <murf3326> What is the newsreader of choice for Ubuntu 7.10?  I'm curious to see what everyone else is using before I start installing.
[14:25] <cliebow> ` sCOTTo :does lsusb show it??
[14:25] <kikdadog> 6.1 gigs of backup space so i logged in as root and deleted
[14:26] <sCOTTo> cliebow, ill have a look - im not a linux poweruser - so i may need some help...
[14:26] <bazhang> sCOTTo: is the device plugged in and the machine powered on? it would be helpful if that were so; I need you to go to the terminal in that machine and type lsusb (if its usb) and lspci if it is internal pci then tell me what the chipset name is the netgear is simply a brand name :} pelase dont paste in the channel though, just tell me numbers after ID
[14:26] <shamrock> ikonia: yes.
[14:26] <shamrock> and numerous how tos and reports via google.
[14:26] <sCOTTo> yup brb
[14:26] <seanh> Does anyone know how safe an rsync backup is? It says it does checksums on every file that is transferred, does this mean that if rsync reports no errors you can be gauranteed that the backup is safe, i.e. there are no corrupt files in the backup copy?
[14:26] <ynef> murf3326: i know it's kind of boring, but i use google reader -- no install, and you have your feeds right where you left them even if you use someone else's computer
[14:26] <cliebow> sCOTTo, might have to apt-get install lsusb
[14:26] <ikonia> seanh: yup
[14:26] <bazhang> kikdadog: well if other things are linked to that then it would show as still being used iirc
[14:26] <seanh> ikonia thanks :)
[14:27] <kikdadog> i tried the backup config, to purge but still getting nothin
[14:27] <murf3326> ynef: thanks... Google is ok for reading, but I need something for downloading as well.
[14:28] <ikonia> murf3326: thunderbird is fine for mail/news
[14:28] <axscode> anyone knows how to read a screenlog
[14:28] <sCOTTo> bazhang, ---> BUS 001: Device 003 --- 1385:5f00
[14:28] <ikonia> axscode: sure
[14:28] <bazhang> kikdadog: are you trying to do something in particular or just running out of space or just concerned your setup may not working
[14:28] <bazhang> sCOTTo: let me google for a moment--be right back
[14:28] <kikdadog> i ran out of space, before i noticed how mmuch space it was taking
[14:28] <Slart> murf3326: I actually haven't been able to find a nice newsreader.. there must be something out there..
[14:28] <sCOTTo> PS: im in Australia, its 1.30am and im a bit tired :)
[14:28] <sCOTTo> yup yup
[14:28] <axscode> ikonia: how sir? can you help?
[14:28] <ikonia> axscode: as in the application sreen ?
[14:29] <ikonia> screen
[14:29] <axscode> dont know.. not really sure. maybe dvb
[14:29] <nomic> anyone know how i get the 'install restricted drivers' dialogue up for a new monitor? please
[14:29]  * Sonja tests something.
[14:29] <axscode> ikonia if using screen. how will i replay?
[14:30] <ynef> nomic: what monitor is it?
[14:30] <ikonia> axscode: what are you talking about a "screen log"
[14:30] <kikdadog> just trying to get my 6 gigs back thats asll
[14:30] <nomic> its a samsung 245b 24"
[14:30] <axscode> ikonia: what about if using screen?
[14:30] <nomic> it booted originally into an install restricted drivers dialogue
[14:30] <nomic> but not 2nd time
[14:30] <ikonia> axscode: I don't understand
[14:30] <ynef> nomic: and what is the driver package called?
[14:30] <nomic> i don't know
[14:32] <nomic> im trying to configure it to run 2 monitors off the same graphics card
[14:32] <axscode> me too ikonia
[14:32] <axscode> its a huge file, but ascii,
[14:32] <ynef> nomic: ah, then you're looking for a graphics card driver, not a driver for the monitor. my mistake, i guess. :-) what's your graphics card?
[14:32] <axscode> the filename is screenlog.1 screenlog.2
[14:32] <axscode> lolz. nevermind
[14:33] <nomic> ynef: nvidia 7300 series
[14:33] <axscode> U-listener starting at 172.17.17.3:12000. Connecting to central MySQL DB...
[14:33] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414023&highlight=wpn111 there is a howto here sCOTTo; I hope it works with fluxbuntu--is this gutsy? I'm assuming so, and you may also want to ask the fluxbuntu channel if the howto will work for that distro as well
[14:33] <tzd> is it possible upgrading amarok without losing previous settings, loaded scripts etc?
[14:34] <robdeman> folks any idea what it means when SMARTmointools report 2 errors detected on a brand new dedicated server's harddrive
[14:34] <robdeman> is 2 errors something regular perhaps?
[14:35] <sCOTTo> bazhang,  thanks bud :) your tops :)
[14:35] <ynef> nomic: then you'll want to get either the nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new package. google your card number to see which one is right for you
[14:35] <nomic> right thanks ynef
[14:35] <bazhang> kikdadog: no worries sCOTTo--come back when/if you have questions :}
[14:35] <nomic> do i need drivers for the monitor though?
[14:35] <AdvoWork> can linux execute a file on a shared folder of a windows machine, so that it seems its running from that pc? :s
[14:35] <sCOTTo> ok
[14:35] <sCOTTo> bbs
[14:35] <bazhang> kikdadog: oops sorry
[14:36] <Blu3pr1nt> Hey guys...ive still got en big problem with my Intel Wifi 4965...can anyone help me??? thx
[14:36] <kikdadog> s'ok
[14:36] <bazhang> kikdadog: you want to get back those deleted files or just be sure those things are really deleted?
[14:36] <sentano> ikonia: When I type: ls -la /dev/sda, I get "brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 2008-01-02 13:11 /dev/sda" and ls -la /dev/hda gives error message "ls: /dev/hda: No such file or directory". Does this mean that I just replace every hda(x) with hds(x) in the guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome ?
[14:36] <kikdadog> just want to deleted them for good
[14:36] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: what problems
[14:36] <ynef> nomic: most likely no -- X in general doesn't really need drivers for monitors, just needs to know (or figure out) so called "modelines" -- most likely, once you have the driver installed correctly, you should be able to configure the screen correctly as well
[14:36] <kikdadog> 'i think they are deleted just not showing
[14:37] <dumbguy> :)
[14:37] <nomic> ok thanks
[14:37] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: Im using ubuntu 7.10...and I can connect to my network only for a few minutes...after that the connection is lost...
[14:37] <angel_911> Привет, всех с новым годом
[14:37] <Spl33n> I have just one question: Are Ubuntu's and Windows XP's methods of estimating battery life on laptops significantly different. Which one has more accurate estimation of remaining battery life?
[14:37] <tzd> is it possible upgrading Amarok without losing previous settings, loaded scripts etc. Anyone please?
[14:37] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: I tried to install the iwlwifi-driver....but it doesnt work to install them...
[14:37] <bazhang> !ru | angel_911
[14:37] <ubotu> angel_911: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:38] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: now I tried to install the drivers with ndiswrapper...no succes at all :-(
[14:38] <bazhang> kikdadog: you can type df -a to see free space and see if that lines up with what you expected
[14:38] <nomic> ynef - please   - will it configure one desktop for both monitors automatically?
[14:39] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: aha--let me google for a moment..is this a longstanding problem or only iwht gutsy
[14:39] <Blu3pr1nt> only with gutsy....
[14:39] <bazhang> kikdadog: sorry in the terminal type df -a
[14:39] <Delvien> Blu3pr1nt: did you look at the ndiswrapper wiki to make sure the driver you installed goes for your card ( for my wifi card, the drivers that came with it dont work, i had to download another companies drivers )
[14:40] <ikonia> sentano: correct
[14:40] <ynef> nomic: do you have the "screen and graphic preferences" program in your settings menu? that'll take care of the configuration for you :-)
[14:40] <nomic> thankyou ynef i am hopeful
[14:40] <Blu3pr1nt> Delvien: yes I tried another driver...but the same problem....is it maybe a prob with the wpa2-psk protection???
[14:40] <Delvien> not too sure
[14:40] <ynef> nomic: you can read up on "xinerama" if you want to know more about the subject
[14:40] <nomic> ty
[14:41] <r-wolf> any ideas when is pidgin 2.3.1 expected at GG repo? at getdeb.net, it appeared today
[14:41] <kikdadog> targgg
[14:42] <kikdadog> home is 98 percent used
[14:42] <ynef> r-wolf: unless it's a security update you're after, or someone puts it in backports, you'll have to wait for the next version of ubuntu
[14:43] <kikdadog> the thing is i have it set to purge these things and it wont purge them
[14:43] <NMajik> I'm having issues deleting a folder; sudo rm -rf causes my system simply to sit and chug, and I can hear my HDD moving.  If I try to determine it's size with du, the same thing happens.  I get the feeling that something in the folder is looping back on itself. Any thoughts?
[14:43] <white_eagle> is there an encylopedia replacement in linux besides wikipedia because it wants an int. connection?
[14:43] <kikdadog> also thanks for taking the time baz i appreciate it
[14:43] <ikonia> NMajik: it's either a fault on teh disk or has a lot of data in it
[14:43] <ikonia> white_eagle: wikipedia is nothing to do with linux
[14:44] <osfameron> white_eagle: there are various projects that do offline copies of wikipedia
[14:44] <sentano> ikonia: thank you very much :)
[14:44] <NMajik> ikonia: I'm almost positive that it's not the size, and I really hope it's not the disk. Do you know if /dev/fd loops on itself?
[14:44] <r-wolf> ynef: too bad then :( so how do I install it?
[14:44] <ikonia> NMajik: /dev/fd is a floppy device
[14:44] <bazhang> kikdadog: did that solve your issue? was the free space there?
[14:44] <ikonia> NMajik: you can't delete a  things from the device files directly
[14:45] <kikdadog> nope shows being used yet
[14:45] <ynef> white_eagle: you can download a copy of wikipedia's entire data and host it on your own computer (so you can access it offline) :-)
[14:45] <nomic> ynef how big is it?
[14:45] <ynef> r-wolf: like you found, get-deb or whatever :-)
[14:45] <nomic> didn't know that
[14:45] <osfameron> but there are projects that make that a little more manageable
[14:45] <osfameron> e.g. you probably don't want the discussion pages, or the old versions
[14:45] <kikdadog>  shows /home  with 19 percent in use
[14:45] <ikonia> !offtopic
[14:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:46] <kikdadog> baz / is root right????
[14:46] <NMajik> ikonia: It's not actually in my /dev/ dir. I scp'd / from my nokia 770. Tried to anyway, it kept referencing things like "scp: //dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/mnt/initfs/proc/42/cwd/usr/lib/libosso-gsf-1.so.1: Too many levels of symbolic links" even though I let it run overnight it never got past /dev/. Now I'm trying to delete the copied files and I can't ge
[14:47] <ynef> white_eagle and nomic: http://lifehacker.com/software/wiki/build-your-own-offline-wikipedia-291518.php
[14:47] <ynef> it says right there that in august 2007, wikipedia was 2.9 gigs. have fun ;-)
[14:47] <xy77> I spent half the day trying to figure out how to enable informix support for php5 with apache, but didn't succeed. Did anyone successfully install php with informix support on a current ubuntu?
[14:48] <ikonia> xy77: have you looked if informix support is built in to the php packages by default or if there is a seperate package for it
[14:48] <ikonia> xy77: I can't see it being built in by default, nor a seperate pacakge due to it being an obscure dependency
[14:48] <kikdadog> its shows  /dev/sda6 as 98 percent used, but shows dev/sda 5 as 19 percent im gonna assume that its alright and im just a retard
[14:49] <xy77> ikonia: what do you mean by obscure dependency?
[14:49] <ikonia> xy77: well you'd have to have informix support built into php or link against client libs (most realistic option)
[14:50] <ikonia> having informix libs on boxes is very rare
[14:50] <bazhang> kikdadog: unless its a hardware issue should be ok, but running at that full will surely slow things down a bit :}
[14:50] <ikonia> well, rare for an ubuntu machine
[14:50] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: have you found a possible solution?
[14:50] <kikdadog> i think i borked things up when i logged in as root and threw them
[14:50] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: well, perhaps--but you might not like it :}
[14:51] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: intellinuxwireless.org? ^
[14:52] <kikdadog> thanks baz will catch u laters
[14:52] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: have you seen this link: yup
[14:52] <Blu3pr1nt> no sry....
[14:52] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: no sry..
[14:52] <xy77> ikonia: I try to evaluate informix for use as db backend for a cms. I installed the server and the sdk on my dev machine and would like to enable informix support for php. How do I link php against the informix client libs, can you tell me?
[14:53] <bazhang> http://intellinuxwireless.org/ that was the link I meant Blu3pr1nt
[14:53] <ikonia> xy77: you would normally have to do that at php package/build time
[14:53] <bazhang> Blu3pr1nt: be right back
[14:53] <Blu3pr1nt> bazhang: oh yeah...^^ ive got these files....but...when I try to install these...there are various error-messages...should i sent them to you?
[14:54] <NMajik> ikonia: Any ideas?
[14:55] <joha> Hi again!
[14:55] <sCOTTo> bazhang, hey how do i mount a usb device so i can move the file onto the hdd on the ubuntu machine?
[14:55] <ikonia> NMajik: any ideas about what ? I don't quite understand what the problem is
[14:55] <robdeman> hi all: any good guide on setting up a smtop/pop3 server on my Ubuntu box?
[14:55] <joha> How can I change what email address Cron sends its emails to?
[14:55] <ikonia> NMajik: what are you trying to copy and how
[14:55] <ikonia> joha: as in cron as a daemon or the scripts cron runs
[14:55] <murf3326> ikonia: sorry for the delay responding... I haven't tried Thunderbird for news... I'll give it a try.  Thanks.
[14:56] <ikonia> murf3326: no problem
[14:56] <gahan> is thgere any media player for ubuntu as feature-rich as new winamp5?
[14:56] <NMajik> ikonia: I was trying to copy the whole filesystem on the nokia 770 to my computer to look through.
[14:56] <ikonia> NMajik: and there is the problem your doing scp -r yes ?
[14:56] <joha> ikonia: when cron, the daemon, runs a script specified in crontab, it sends a mail with that script's output. I want to change where that email goes since I'm disabling mails to system users on the server (setting up virtual mailboxes instead)
[14:56] <xy77> ikonia: I read about building the required php module afterwards using apg-get source and using the .so generated. I missed to install apache2-dev though, so I had no apxs2. I'll try that again.
[14:57] <gsevil> i run dual boot: winxp with ubuntu, someone've just reinstall windows, and now i can't get in ubuntu. how could i fix the boot record?
[14:57] <NMajik> Yes, I let it copy for over 8 hours and I know that the memory card is only 128mb. I also saw many errors like this "scp: //dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/dev/fd/3/mnt/initfs/proc/42/cwd/usr/lib/libosso-gsf-1.so.1: Too many levels of symbolic links"
[14:57] <NMajik> "
[14:57] <pvl> is ti possible to change the maximize size?
[14:57] <NMajik> It never got beyond copying the nokia's /dev/ folder
[14:57] <ikonia> NMajik: you can't copy device files like that
[14:57] <NMajik> I realize that now
[14:57] <ikonia> NMajik: it won't get beyond /dev
[14:57] <NMajik> How do I get rid of the /dev/fd on my hard drive though?
[14:58] <NMajik> From the nokia tha tis
[14:58] <ikonia> NMajik: you don't they are device files
[14:58] <harveyd> is there a decent svn client with shell integration done for ubuntu yet?
[14:58] <ikonia> harveyd: subversion (svn)
[14:58] <NMajik> ikonia: I think we are having a miscommunication of sorts
[14:58] <ikonia> NMajik: we are not
[14:58] <pvl> harveyd, freeNX
[14:59] <joha> ikonia: got my last line?
[14:59] <ikonia> NMajik: you want to remove the /dev/fd files from your nokia so you can copy the file systems yes/no
[14:59] <hillih> Hi! how do I install an older  package version? t.ex. I have perl 5.8.7-10ubuntu1.1 installed but most downgrade to perl 5.8.7-10ubuntu1
[14:59] <ikonia> joha: sorry I think I've missed your last line
[14:59] <NMajik> ikonia: no
[14:59] <ikonia> NMajik: ok, what do you want to do
[14:59] <pvl> is it possible to change the maximize, size?
[14:59] <joha> ikonia: it was " when cron, the daemon, runs a script specified in crontab, it sends a mail with that script's output. I want to change where that email goes since I'm disabling mails to system users on the server (setting up virtual mailboxes instead)"
[14:59] <NMajik> ikonia: I already did that, they are (at least in part) sitting on my hard drive. I now want to remove them
[14:59] <harveyd> ik, yes, subversion?
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: remove the root file system on your hard disk
[15:00] <NMajik> ikonia: I am unable, for whatever reason, to do this
[15:00] <harveyd> pvl, the doesnt seem to be an svn client
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: when I say root, I mean the root of the nokia file system on your local hard disk
[15:00] <pvl> harveyd, well it isn't but i heard does the same thing only faster. im not too sure about it though, just recommending you to look into it
[15:00] <NMajik> ikonia: I tried sudo rm -rf /home/nmajik/nokia770dump
[15:00] <ikonia> NMajik: and it just does nothing ?
[15:01] <NMajik> ikonia: I forget exactly what happened, but eventually everything is deleted except ~/nokia770dump/dev/fd
[15:01] <wild_osca1> can anyone give me a hint why ide drive doesn't mount after suspend?
[15:01] <ikonia> NMajik: ls -la ~/nokia770dump/dev/fd
[15:02] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows, I can't get into ubuntu, how can I fix it? 'cause reinstall ubuntu and all application take a lot of time
[15:02] <ikonia> gsevil: ask in ##windows
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > gsevil
[15:03] <NMajik> ikonia: "drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-01-02 09:32 3" is the only thing of consequence
[15:03] <kwk> Hi! I have created two launpad accounts because I forgot about the other one, that already existed. How can I delete one of these accounts?
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[15:03] <ikonia> NMajik: I need to see the file link/association.
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gsevil: Someone snuck in and reinstalled windows on your machine right... so you need to follow those instructions.. run livecd and restore grub boot menu
[15:04] <ikonia> joha: looking now, I can't see it
[15:04] <joha> ikonia: can't see the crontab?
[15:04] <NMajik> ikonia: This? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50500/
[15:04] <ikonia> joha: the file to change it
[15:05] <joha> oh okay
[15:05] <joha> me neither :-)
[15:05] <ikonia> NMajik: what happens when you rm -rf that dir
[15:05] <kwk> oh, I found out how to delete my accout.
[15:05] <kwk> bye
[15:05] <NMajik> ikonia: Same thing; computer just sits not doing anything but not frozen
[15:06] <ikonia> NMajik: I can't see why
[15:06] <ikonia> NMajik: you are doing that with sudo I assume
[15:06] <NMajik> Eh, yes. Either sudo, but currently su
[15:07] <ikonia> joha: ahh ok, vixie cron, direct quote
[15:08] <NMajik> ikonia: Ah, here we go. I still can't fix it, I just know what's wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50501/
[15:08] <ikonia> joha: When executing commands, any output is  mailed  to  the  owner  of  the crontab (or to the user named in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists)
[15:08] <robdeman> is there an apt-get install for WU-FTP?
[15:08] <joha> aah
[15:08] <joha> thanks ikonia!
[15:08] <mw-home> OT: anyone else having problems getting to gmail?
[15:08] <MindSpark> hi, I want to enter a newline in a gnumeric cell. Does anyone know how ?
[15:08] <ikonia> joha: I was looking at generic cron - not vixiecron
[15:08] <ikonia> mw-home: this is ubuntu support
[15:08] <mw-home> OT means off topic
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mw-home: Nope
[15:08] <ikonia> NMajik: that shouldn't happen as it's not a link
[15:08] <wwwo> I just installed Ubutu 7.10 on EXT3 partition and got "kernel panic unable to mount root", please append a correct root= boot option
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: doesn't mean it's ok to ask
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is better to ask in
[15:09] <NMajik> ikonia: All I know is that I can cd in what appears to be a loop
[15:09] <ikonia> mw-home: more so as you know your off topic
[15:09] <ikonia> NMajik: shouldn't be
[15:09] <ikonia> NMajik: but I can see it is
[15:09] <joha> ikonia: I think that's a pretty good starting point anyways, so - thanks - you're doing a great job of trying to help ppl here!
[15:09] <ikonia> joha: welcome
[15:09] <dejanpan> hi, does anyone know why my feisty dist would hang on tty8 and not come to the blank screen as normal? or when I can look up for repair?
[15:10] <dejanpan> sorry where
[15:10] <mw-home> ikonia: ok, will go there.  didn't know there was an offtopic channel.  my apologies.
[15:10] <cornix> Once more, as I didn't get an answer last time: Anyone here knowing about why aticonfig is crashing for me when I try to use it? I read somewhere it's not working for Gutsy
[15:10] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[15:10] <pteague_work> is there some trick to getting printers to work?
[15:13] <porkpie> guy's has anyone got any ideas http://pastebin.com/m76fe526a
[15:13] <dario1982> ciao
[15:13] <jaggy> anyone can help me installing lincity ?
[15:13] <ynef> jaggy: what's not working?
[15:14] <jaggy> it says i miss a package :s
[15:14] <ikonia> porkpie: your building perl
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> argggg
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> help me ffs!!!!
[15:14] <jaggy> simple directmedia layer mixer
[15:14] <ynef> jaggy: how are you installing it?
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> ubuntu sucks, it doesnt work!!!!!!!!!
[15:14] <cornix> :(
[15:14] <jaggy> package install lincity-ng-...
[15:14] <ynef> jaggy: if you use the package manager, it should just install it for you
[15:14] <jaggy> ye but it gives an error
[15:14] <porkpie> ikonia:what the problem though
[15:14] <jaggy> that i miss simple directmedia layer mixer
[15:14] <erefasdfsd> I need herlp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[15:15] <erefasdfsd> I need herlp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1¸
[15:15] <ikonia> porkpie: the static libary is not portable
[15:15] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | erefasdfsd
[15:15] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[15:15] <ynef> jaggy: can you pastebin the entire message?
[15:15] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: calm down and ask your question
[15:15] <jaggy> yes i can 1 sec
[15:15] <porkpie> ikonia:how do I fix it  ?
[15:15] <wild_osca1> anyone knows why suspend kills my ide dvdrom drive?
[15:16] <NMajik> ikonia: If it was linked, how would I delete it?
[15:16] <cornix> lol @ doesn't work :D
[15:16] <ikonia> porkpie: few things look odd there, like the libraries path on /usr/local/lib that seems odd, and it's trylink to use a staic lib as a dso
[15:16] <jaggy> ynef
[15:16] <jaggy> pastebin is down
[15:16] <Pici> !paste
[15:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:16] <alhicks> I just upgraded my laptop from the previous release to 7.10 and now no wireless networks show up in nm-applet.  Intel 2200BG.  Worked fine before.
[15:16] <erefasdfsd> i got HP compaq 6715s laptop that is piece of shit for other OS except Windows, i donwloaded alternate ubuntu 7.10 install cd because live cd didnt work because ubuntu doesnt recognize my ATI x1250 graphic card, and after i installed with alternate cd and tried to boot up ubuntu i got black screen, but i dont get black screen if i boot it in recovery mode, but then i cant start X
[15:17] <ikonia> porkpie: I'd have to look into that in detail as you've not given me much to go on, but I suggest you get support from teh freeradius guys
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: using language like that will not get you help
[15:17] <alhicks> iwlist scan doesn't give any results either.
[15:17] <ynef> jaggy: do what Pici had ubotu say ;-)
[15:17] <alhicks> configuring a network through nm-applet also doesn't do anything
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> i am messing arroung with ubuntu for 6 hours
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: this is a family channel, people do not need to see or deserve that sort of lanaguage
[15:17] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: I don't care if it has been 6 days, that language is uncalled for
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> can you please help me
[15:17] <erUSUL> erefasdfsd: boot in recovery mode and try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[15:17] <erefasdfsd> ill try
[15:17] <wols_> just checking: the debian "swirl" isn't showing at any time in the ubuntu boot process, right?
[15:18] <jaggy> ynef : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50505/
[15:18] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: not until you learn how to speak to people without swearing and ask a question politly
[15:18] <erefasdfsd> i even downloaded ati drivers but it doesnt seems to work anywy
[15:18] <jaggy> :p
[15:18] <erUSUL> erefasdfsd: that will reconfigure the grphic mode of ubuntu
[15:18] <rexy> erefasdfsd: i wouldnt bother with the binary ati drivers till you get it working normally
[15:18] <ynef> jaggy: have you tried what the message tells you to?
[15:19] <erefasdfsd> ok
[15:19] <jaggy> yes , but i can't find the lib or whatever it is
[15:19] <ryanbane> goodmorning all. happy new year
[15:19] <erefasdfsd> ill try it but i am 99.9% sure that i will be back on this channel in 10 min :((
[15:19] <rexy> alhicks: does iwconfig show any wireless network extensions?
[15:19] <jaggy> happy new yeear ryanbane
[15:20] <alhicks> oh....radio "off"
[15:20] <ynef> jaggy: libsdl-mixer1.2 sounds about right, i think
[15:20] <alhicks> just noticed that.
[15:20] <jaggy> ok ty xd
[15:20] <rexy> alhicks: there's also an extensive wiki on wireless
[15:20] <bob__> Hi, I have an ext3 that fstab shows as mounted as /data but I dont see a mount point in media.. I thought I set it up right during the install but I guess not.  Where do I go from here?
[15:20] <rexy> bob__: /data means it's in the root so cd /data
[15:20] <ynef> bob__: write "mount" in a terminal and see if it claims to have mounted the partition somewhere
[15:20] <alhicks> rexy, I was basically wondering if there was some known upgrade issue.
[15:21] <alhicks> this works fined yesterday night...and has for a year
[15:21] <jaggy> ty ynef i don't get an error now and srry for the time waste
[15:21] <rexy> alhicks: not a clue, dont know what wireless card you have, if iwconfig says it's off you have to turn it on first though, think you can do that through iwconfig
[15:21] <bob__> rexy: Did I pick a bad name for a spare partition?
[15:21] <alhicks> Rexy, intel 2200bg
[15:21] <ynef> jaggy: if everything's working now, then there hasn't been any time wasted :-)
[15:21] <jaggy> hehe
[15:22] <chazco> Hi... when connected to the motherboard my USB keyboard doesnt always work in 7.10... it works fine on a PCI USB card or 7.04... any ideas? I've managed to get a dmesg output of the two different ports if it helps
[15:22] <rexy> bob__: not necesarily, putting partitions in /media is just convention
[15:22] <makiolo> low mA
[15:22] <ikonia> makiolo: pardon ?
[15:22] <robdeman> folks: any guide on setting up a mailserver on Edgy?
[15:22] <robdeman> pop3 boxes etc
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: tons on https://help.ubuntu.com mostly around postfix
[15:23] <makiolo> any ports have more mA than others
[15:23] <bob__> rexy: mount shows it... let me look with nautilus
[15:23] <robdeman> ikonia: I should go for postfix?
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: keep in mind that if your on a dsl/cable line you will most likley be black listed by a lot of mail servers
[15:23] <ikonia> robdeman: your call what you go for
[15:23] <robdeman> ikonia: No ot is for a dedicated server I just rented
[15:23] <bob__> rexy:   Sure enough.. thanks all....
[15:23] <makiolo> my laptop have high mA in left (hard disk) and low mA in right(pendrive)
[15:23] <ynef> bob__: if you check out "man hier" in a terminal, you'll see that removable media should be mounted under /media by convention -- you can (and probably should) choose some other mount point for partitions
[15:24] <ikonia> robdeman: no problem then, just make sure your not blacklisted before starting and make sure you set it up safley so that you don't get blacklisted for being a spam host
[15:24] <ikonia> robdeman: some isp's can / will sue you if you run a mail server on their network that acts as a spam host
[15:24] <bob__> ynef: It is a fixed partition on the first drive.. should I pick a different mount point name ?
[15:24] <robdeman> Ikonia: well.. good luck form them Americans trying to sue me in Europe :)
[15:25] <robdeman> Ikonia: how do I check if I am blacklisted?
[15:25] <ynef> bob__: you can choose whatever you want, but your idea of calling it "data" sounds good to me :-)
[15:25] <ikonia> robdeman: it can be done. I've seen it from usa to europe. I'm in europe
[15:25] <bob__> ynef: Great, so dumb luck pulled me through
[15:25] <ynef> bob__: "intuition", my friend ;-)
[15:25] <wols_> robdeman: you can't really check. every blacklist (there are dozens) has a different mechanism if any
[15:26] <robdeman> ikonia: mm well anyways im just using it for 1 domain... Im gonna close it :)
[15:26] <erefasdfsd> No screens found, is error, and btw, i tried that before
[15:26] <bob__> ynef: Thanks again
[15:26] <robdeman> wols_ ahrm ok
[15:26] <alhicks> evil...the problem was that I'd accidentally hit the Fn-wireless button.
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: close it ?
[15:26] <rexy> spamhause has a list iirc
[15:26] <erefasdfsd> No screens found, is error, and btw, i tried that before
[15:26] <jaggy> ynef is it normal that it just closes himself after a few min :s
[15:26] <alhicks> which disabled the transmitter.
[15:26] <adante> 4hi
[15:26] <robdeman> ikonia: well, not allow SMTP - just some pop3 boxes
[15:26] <alhicks> sorry for the noise.
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: that sounds excellent.
[15:26] <adante> a program crashed and its is still in my tray; how can i get rid of it?
[15:26] <ikonia> robdeman: you should be fine on that config
[15:26] <whitehat> hello.any idea why I am unable to run network-admin under xubuntu 7.10 even after supplying root password.error indicates can't access config file.ideas? thank you
[15:27] <porkpie> ikonia:is there a pkg for freeradius 1.1.7 ?
[15:27] <truna> adante, whats the name of the program?
[15:27] <ynef> jaggy: nope -- start it from a terminal, so you can look if it writes an error message on the terminal when it crashes/closes
[15:27] <ikonia> porkpie: no a clue, take a look
[15:27] <adante> truna: utorrent
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, and i choosed ati, and lot of other drivers, and when i typed startx i get Fatal server error: No screens found.
[15:27] <nomic> AQZZXCQ
[15:27] <ynef> jaggy: also, if you're running with 3D effects/compiz, then that might be it (some games I've played have complained about that a lot)
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> help, any1 know
[15:27] <truna> adante  ps aux|grep utorrent  then get the pid and kill -15 pidofutorrent
[15:27] <erefasdfsd> I am curssed, nothing doesnt work
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, and i choosed ati, and lot of other drivers, and when i typed startx i get Fatal server error: No screens found.
[15:28] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: try the "vesa" drive just to get the machine working
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> i tried it
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> doesnt woork
[15:28] <erefasdfsd> work
[15:28] <truna> erefasdfsd, you rebooted?
[15:29] <adante> truna: i killed it a while ago; ps aux |grep utorrent shows nothing (except the grep proc)
[15:29] <Pici> erefasdfsd: Try using vesa, not ati first.
[15:29] <erefasdfsd> no i just choosed driver, got some warning about overwriting, and typed startx, didnt reboote
[15:29] <erefasdfsd> do i need to reboot?
[15:29] <jaggy> ynef how do i turn of compiz ?
[15:29] <slavik> cd #offtopic-ubuntu
[15:29] <ikonia> Pici: he says he's tried it, but I'm not convinced
[15:29] <truna> adante so it is killed, now you want what again?
[15:29] <jaggy> and i think that this is the error : No Component specified in cell 2, 1  Segmentatiefout (core dumped)
[15:30] <adante> the icon in my tray, i would like it to go away
[15:30] <adante> truna: the icon in my tray, i would like it to go away
[15:30] <dphase> gdm is using a different resolution than my desktop, and is using a modeline not set in my xorg.conf, how can i change this?
[15:30] <ynef> jaggy: can't remember now, but you'll have them in your preferences menu somewhere (i'm not in gnome at the moment)
[15:30] <truna> adante, when you right click, nothing that says remove ?
[15:31] <adante> truna: when i right click, nothing happens
[15:31] <adante> truna: on the icon that is
[15:31] <elder> anyone know if All seeing eye is compatible with ubuntu?
[15:32] <truna> adante not on the icon but on an empty area within the tray, maybe its preferences?
[15:32] <slavik> I am trying to pipe X over SSH, but I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." when running an ax app
[15:32] <jaggy> ok ynef
[15:32] <ynef> jaggy: they're called "desktop effects", if i remember correctly
[15:33] <adante> truna: hm, i seem to have just removed my entire system tray :]
[15:33] <jaggy> its off ynef but still crashing
[15:33] <collins> im using a newer custom kernel than what ubuntu 7.10 ships with, but now the stupid Restricted Drivers manager thing keeps preventing me from using the NVIDIA drivers since it doesn't recognize what kernel i am using
[15:33] <adante> what is the 'system tray' called in ubuntu, i would like to add it to my panel again but can't seem to find it
[15:33] <ynef> jaggy: did you try starting it from a terminal then?
[15:34] <collins> how do i remove restricted drivers manager thing
[15:34] <collins> from ubuntu
[15:34] <slavik> collins: you don't, just don't install the drivers
[15:34] <bob__> how do I give myself or anyone permission to use my spare partition I have mounted as /data .. chmod somehting ?
[15:34] <truna> adante sorry i got you into more trouble
[15:35] <collins> slavik, that's nice and all, but the vesa drivers suck for xorg
[15:35] <adante> truna: no worries seem to have gotten it back
[15:35] <collins> slavik, so i need to install the nvidia drivers
[15:35] <soundray> adante: it's called Notification Area applet
[15:35] <slavik> restricted drivers manager has nothing to do with vesa driver though
[15:35] <truna> bob__, chmod a+rwx
[15:35] <adante> truna: seems to have 'fixed' it anyway, my tray is now empty :P
[15:35] <adante> soundray: cheers
[15:35] <slavik> collins: you can use the nvidia installer from their site, it's what I do
[15:36] <jaggy> yes ynef
[15:36] <scott_> se
[15:36] <ynef> jaggy: so does it say anything?
[15:36] <jaggy> and i keep getting the same error
[15:36] <collins> slavik, the problem is, i am using a newer kernel than ubuntu, and i installed the nvidia drivers from nvidias site, thats fine, but when i go to turn on desktop effects it says restricted drivers manager is not correct version for kernel
[15:36] <bob__> truna: How do I tell it what folder to change the permissions on.. or does it do it to the current folder/partition
[15:36] <collins> slavik, stupid bug on ubuntus part i guess, or maybe they are figuring no one is going to use newer kernels
[15:36] <slavik> hmm
[15:36] <collins> than what ships with it
[15:36] <slavik> don't do it that way
[15:36] <slavik> just have compiz start up in the session
[15:37] <albatross27>  How much C must one know to program with GTK?
[15:37] <jaggy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50509/
[15:37] <collins> slavik ill give that a try, didnt thinof that
[15:37] <endo> Anyone know how I can go about getting all the album covers on my ipod?
[15:37] <truna> bob__, the /mountpointitself
[15:37] <soundray> bob__: what filesystem do you have in the /data partition?
[15:38] <Pici> albatross27: None, other languages have gtk libraries that you can use, like mono, python, etc..
[15:38] <bob__> soundray: it is ext3
[15:38] <nmb> I'm trying to set up Xen and bridged networking and so I've been setting up many bridges unsuccessfully.  These bridges are reincarnated after a reboot, which I don't want.  Does anyone know why a bridge would be recreated after reboot?
[15:38] <bob__> soundray: only thing in there is lost and found at the moment
[15:38] <ynef> jaggy: that's really strange -- segmentation faults are usually just "crashes", so you should try asking a lincity support channel for help
[15:38] <bob__> soundray:        so        chmod a+rwx /data
[15:38] <erefasdfsd> it doesnt work
[15:38] <jaggy> ynef where is there one ?
[15:39] <acidicchip> I am using Ubuntu 7.10, and I am connecting via KPPP to Verizon, and Pidgin doesn't seem to detect the internet connection to connect to the services. Any suggestions?
[15:39] <albatross27> Pici: well, I mean in C
[15:39] <cornixx> aticonfig is broken on Gutsy?
[15:39] <soundray> bob__: then I would recommend that you 'sudo mkdir /data/$USER && sudo chown $USER:$USER /data/$USER && sudo chmod u+rwx /data/$USER'
[15:39] <truna> nmb, does Xen have an entry in something like /etc/init.d/ or /etc/rcS  that starts the network for it?
[15:39] <Pici> albatross27: I don't know, sorry.  Anyway, its offtopic for this channel.
[15:39] <erefasdfsd> when i run normally i get one forever black screen, and in recovery mode X doesnt work
[15:39] <bob__> soundray: I would love to... but please explain what it is that I would be doing with that command
[15:40] <family> Hey guys, sound doesn't seem to be working anymore after upgrading to gutsy. What can I do to troubleshoot?
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> when i run normally i get one forever black screen, and in recovery mode X doesnt work
[15:40] <truna> erefasdfsd, i hope you have saved the original before modifying xorg stuff
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> nope
[15:40] <nmb> truna: there's /etc/init.d/xend, but I've got that configured to not set up any networking (in /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp)
[15:40] <erefasdfsd> i didnt
[15:41] <soundray> bob__: three parts: the first creates a directory with your username, the second makes it owned by that same user, and the third one gives you read, write and 'cd-into' rights for that new directory.
[15:41] <erefasdfsd> i guess ill just delete it
[15:41] <soundray> !cli > bob__, you may find this useful (private message)
[15:41] <bob__> soundray: Thank you
[15:41] <truna> erefasdfsd, you may have to reboot from liveCD and copy a working xorg.conf file from there
[15:41] <erefasdfsd> it doesnt work
[15:41] <ynef> family: well, what sound card do you have and do you know what module was used in the previous version?
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i tried to install ubunt with 32,64 bit live cd, and alternative cd, nowhere doesnt work X
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> my graphic card is crao
[15:42] <wols_> erefasdfsd: what card?
[15:42] <Pici> erefasdfsd: You should get an error if X doesnt start.
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i got error
[15:42] <wols_> erefasdfsd: answer my question pleasre
[15:42] <family> ynef: alsa was used before, and it's onboard AC'97 Sound Controller
[15:42] <Pici> erefasdfsd: What did the error say?
[15:42] <erefasdfsd> i got error in recovery mode, but in normal, i got blank screen forever
[15:43] <truna> nmb, I dont know how Xen does it, on vmware, it has a directory for example to start a dhcp server at boot, so I will assume that Xen does similar
[15:43] <erefasdfsd> error is no screen found
[15:43] <erefasdfsd> and above that EE no device found
[15:43] <bob__> soundray: I did it and I see what all it did and does. Tested and working. Thanks guys.
[15:43] <ynef> family: sounds simple enough for ubuntu to support -- do you have access to it via the mixer, or is it simply "not there"?
[15:44] <vwbusguy__> nick vwbusguy
[15:44] <family> ynef: It's there, it's just not playing any sound what-so-ever
[15:44] <ynef> family: and it's not so simple that it's just muted or turned really low on "PCM" or something?
[15:44] <family> ynef: It did work with fiesty, and then the upgrade to gutsy seems to have broken it
[15:44] <family> ynef no definitely not
[15:44] <nmb> truna:  this isn't using a DHCP server on the host, it's supposed to be bridging one of the host interfaces to one of the virtual machines.  I've got that part working manually, but I have four different non-functional bridges that show up when I reboot that appear to be artifacts from my testing, but I can't figure out where they are coming from on reboot.
[15:45] <OlMightyG> is it possible to make a dvd run which says "permission denied"?
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> wols: helloo????
[15:45] <family> ynef: Actually the device is caling itself SiS SI7012. Dunno why
[15:45] <pvl> has anyone got conky running?
[15:45] <LetterRip> Hi, after resizing and moving around partitions I'm getting an fsck error on reboot
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> OlMightyG: Quake4 by chance?
[15:45] <wols_> erefasdfsd: I asked you something
[15:45] <ynef> family: well, maybe you can figure out if others are having the same problem -- see what "lspci" is calling it (might be different from what you get via the mixer)
[15:45] <OlMightyG> no.. a movie
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> what??
[15:45] <LetterRip> i think my fstab is just incorrect now
[15:45] <erefasdfsd> what??
[15:45] <wols_> what card is it?
[15:45] <LetterRip> but i'm not sure how to update it with the correct information
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> x1250 ATI
[15:46] <wols_> fglrx
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> btw, aticonfig is not installed
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> what with that?
[15:46] <truna> nmb, i understand you are not running dhcp, im just saying in vmware it has a directory to start scripts for networking and I would say Xen have something similar, maybe it even has a session cache you can clear?
[15:46] <family> ynef: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> should i type fglrx in console
[15:46] <erefasdfsd> what after i type it
[15:47] <lakcaj> LetterRip, so you can't boot at all?  Boot a livecd, mount the partition that has the fstab file in it, and change it.  Don't forget to umount when done.
[15:47] <ynef> family: well, shoot. :-( so, no others are having that problem, right?
[15:47] <LetterRip> lakcaj no i can boot fine
[15:47] <Pici> !who
[15:47] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:47] <roentgen> How could I make a shortcut to launch "telnet ip port" in gnome-terminal?
[15:47] <family> ynef: Not sure. was curious if it was a common problem
[15:47] <LetterRip> lakcaj it just thinks that there is an error
[15:47] <erefasdfsd> should i type fglrx in console
[15:47] <erefasdfsd> what after i type it
[15:47] <family> ynef: I'm not even sure where to begin troubleshooting
[15:48] <LetterRip> the start point of the boot partition is correct
[15:48] <soundray> OlMightyG: make sure that your user has the necessary privilege to "use CD-ROM drives" (System-Admin-Users and Groups)
[15:48] <LetterRip> but i changed all of the others
[15:49] <LetterRip> lakcaj i need to find directions on how to find the info i need to update my fstab correctly
[15:49] <cornixx> oh my, why can it be so hard to set up dual-head with ati... Under windows it works just fine... I've been trying it for 2 days now. aticonfig crashing on me doesn't help either
[15:49] <truna> roentgen, you can always create a script in your home dir and then call it by its name or create an alias command for it  in .bashrc
[15:49] <nmb> truna: I was thinking more along the lines of the persistent networking stuff that runs from udev.  Any ideas about that?
[15:49] <cornixx> !help
[15:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:49] <soundray> roentgen: gnome-terminal -e 'telnet ip port'
[15:49] <lakcaj> LetterRip, try man fstab maybe?
[15:50] <roentgen> soundray: the -e part looks interesting :)
[15:50] <truna> nmb not too much yet about using udev, am still learning the udev rules and such
[15:50] <nmb> truna: me too.  thanks, though
[15:50] <soundray> roentgen: I looked at it again and I can't see what you mean...
[15:50] <ynef> family: check with lsmod to see which module the soundcard is using, then, using that info, hit google and possibly alsa-project.org and see if you can get further info
[15:51] <roentgen> soundray: as in: just what I need
[15:51] <soundray> roentgen: that and a lead apron :)
[15:51] <bobbob1016> How can I get my phone to show up in the Bluetooth config, without making it visible to all?  I have my phone set to hidden in it's bluetooth settings, and I paired it with my Ubuntu, but when I go to browse, the phone only shows up if it isn't hidden.  I thought it would show up if it was paired+hidden.
[15:52] <roentgen> soundray: ah, it isn't working, let's see how to make a script now :P
[15:52] <greedo> hi
[15:52] <r-wolf> there was gnome community repo mentioned here, wouldn't you tell me the url? I can't find it
[15:52] <epifanio> hi, anyone can suggest me the xorg.conf to use with a nvidea gforce 8500 gt 512 ?
[15:52] <pteague_work> i've connected my hp laserjet 1020 to a usb port & ubuntu detected it... i've yet to actually be able to print to it... i even went through & installed it as a new printer
[15:52] <rexy> bobbob1016: to connect you have to know the mac, so either you have to specify or set your phone viseable and pair with it, then you can set it to hidden again
[15:53] <soundray> roentgen: it works here. Did you use the 'single quotes'?
[15:53] <greedo> can i put 2 gpu devices in my xorg.conf so that one is used when i boot straight from the hard drive, and another is used when i boot through vmware ???
[15:53] <rexy> bobbob1016: misread, it doesnt have to be set to visible to communicate when paired
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> fglrx doesnt  work
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> fglrx doesnt  work
[15:53] <erefasdfsd> command not found!
[15:53] <rexy> erefasdfsd: dont repeat yourself, check the ati page to see if your card is supported
[15:53] <soundray> erefasdfsd: it could be your monitor. What type do you have?
[15:54] <erefasdfsd> i am on laptop
[15:54] <Pici> erefasdfsd: What kind?
[15:54] <roentgen> soundray: with quotes something just flashes by
[15:54] <bobbob1016> rexy, I did that, that is how I paired.  Well actually, on second thought, I had Ubuntu unhidden, and the phone was.  I guess the mac id isn't sent in the transmission, it didn't occur to me.  I unhid the phone, and now it shows up.  I feel stupid, thanks for the help.
[15:54] <soundray> erefasdfsd: what did you enter for horizontal sync and vertical refresh?
[15:54] <erefasdfsd> compaq 6715s HP, ati x1250 graphics
[15:54] <r-wolf> erefasdfsd: have you done "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[15:54] <rexy> greedo: doesnt work that way, you can use the second card to drive more monitors
[15:54] <truna> pteague_work, have you configured it via a web browser  localhost:631  and you may have to enable password via  lppasswd
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> yes, wolf, i alway get same error
[15:55] <rexy> bobbob1016: neither the computer or phone has to be visiable to communicate once they know each other
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> No screen found!!!
[15:55] <greedo> rexy: oh :(
[15:55] <rexy> erefasdfsd: try using the ati / radeon driver
[15:55] <soundray> roentgen: I assume you're entering an actual IP address and port number?
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> i did
[15:55] <family> ynef: Found a new error.
[15:55] <Pici> erefasdfsd: or "sudo restricted-manager --enable=fglrx"
[15:55] <erefasdfsd> doesnt work
[15:55] <roentgen> soundray: yeah :P
[15:56] <r-wolf> i'd suggest vesa driver at first
[15:56] <erefasdfsd> pici, command fglrx is not found
[15:56] <rexy> greedo: it's a vm you cant directly give access to the card i think, you can run vm on another monitor driven by the second gpu just fine though
[15:56] <greedo> rexy: in fact, when i boot my ubuntu through vmware, not only gdm doesn't start, but after than xorg.conf is messed with failsafe settings. and when i boot it back from the hard drive, it keeps being messed up :(
[15:56] <LetterRip> lakcaj wasn't any help
[15:56] <cliebow> erefasdfsd, of course you tried dpkg-reconfigure
[15:56] <roentgen> soundray: this is the command gnome-terminal -e 'telnet 192.168.1.2 3333'
[15:56] <soundray> roentgen: does it work if you run telnet in an existing terminal?
[15:56] <LetterRip> if i  do a search something called fstab-sync supposedly auto creates it
[15:56] <bobbob1016> rexy, I know, I guess since the PC was unhidden, and the phone was during the pairing, the phone had my PC's mac, but the PC didn't have the phone's.  Pretty smart though, how the PC picked it up and saved it once I turned the phone to unhidden then back again.
[15:56] <Pici> erefasdfsd: You did: "sudo restricted-manager --enable=fglrx" ?
[15:56] <roentgen> soundray: yes
[15:56] <robdeman> fols if I only want some pop3 boxes on my ubuntu machine, do I need to set up MX DNS records? or is this just for SMTP?
[15:56] <erefasdfsd> nope i didnt pici
[15:56] <LetterRip> but apt i don't find such a piece of software
[15:56] <greedo> rexy: what i want is boot the same ubuntu install either from multiboot or through vmware fusion - just for the sake of flexibility
[15:56] <bobbob1016> rexy, and the phone was hidden*
[15:57] <rexy> greedo: did you install ubuntu in vmware or did you just boot an existing installation through vmware
[15:57] <LetterRip> nor does trying to run such work
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> but i tried fglrx command alone, and it's not found
[15:57] <family> ynef: System > Pref > Sounds, when i try to test sounds i get 'failed to contruct test pipeline for 'gconfausiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[15:57] <endo> anyone know where I can get a version of Amarok that supports libgpod 0.6.0?
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: i tried both ways
[15:57] <Pici> erefasdfsd: Because thats not a command.
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> ok
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> lol
[15:57] <pteague_work> truna> i configured it via the printer panel under system -> administration -> printing (both printing icons)
[15:57] <erefasdfsd> ill try it  and come back
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: but the new xorg hardware profile (or what seems to be hardware profile) just doesn't work
[15:57] <ynef> family: really strange.... you said this was an update, not a fresh install of gutsy?
[15:57] <rexy> greedo: if you boot an existing installation in vmware the video driver will be wrong probably
[15:57] <greedo> rexy: it's not capable of using the resolution of my mac book pro laptop monitor
[15:57] <greedo> etc
[15:57] <pteague_work> all 3 show up on localhost:631/printers
[15:58] <greedo> rexy: however, when installed from the desktop  cd, it just works
[15:58] <ynef> family: upgrade, even
[15:58] <truna> pteague_work, now this time do a test print from that cups configure page
[15:58] <soundray> roentgen: I just tried the same (literal) command here (with no 192.168.1.2 on my network). It says "Trying 192.168.1.2" for two seconds, then the terminal closes.
[15:58] <family> ynef: right. and i know there are problems associated with upgrades, but it's a little.... better
[15:58] <LetterRip> lakcaj may have found the solution
[15:58] <family> ynef: rather than have to transfer all the files necessary after I'd jhave a fresh install
[15:59] <soundray> roentgen: do you want to make a launcher for the desktop or panel?
[15:59] <pteague_work> truna> which device uri should i be using?  usb://HP/LaserJet%201020 or hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1020?serial=JL521VG ?
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: will try harder then :P. Thanks for the help
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: for the desktop now
[15:59] <truna> pteague_work, i dont know off hand, can you try both, one at a time off course
[15:59] <roentgen> soundray: does it matter
[15:59] <roentgen> ?
[16:00] <soundray> roentgen: no. I should have asked "Are you trying to make a launcher".
[16:00] <methods> is there no tool that can work together with network manager to to provide profiles for firewall configs ?
[16:00] <soundray> roentgen: things changed a bit between feisty and gutsy. Which do you have?
[16:00] <pteague_work> truna> ran print job on both, both show up in the printing queue... finally disappeared off the hp:/usb/HP_LaserJet_1020?serial=JL521VG uri, still nothing printed
[16:00] <lakcaj> LetterRip, sorry I couldn't be more help
[16:00] <pteague_work> usb://HP/LaserJet%201020 still has the print job listed
[16:00] <roentgen> soundray: gutsy
[16:01] <truna> pteague_work, does the printer have to correct ppd drivers loaded? you have to play around with ppd filters/drivers to match as close as possible for your printer
[16:01] <soundray> roentgen: did you try entering just "telnet 192.168.1.2" under Command and selecting "Application in Terminal" from the drop-down list?
[16:02] <pteague_work> truna> both have "Printer Driver: HP LaserJet 1020 Foomatic/foo2zjs (recommended)"
[16:02] <soundray> roentgen: I forgot to add the 3333, you know what I mean
[16:02] <truna> pteague_work, umm is it obvious the printer is powered up right? sometimes we forget..
[16:02] <pteague_work> & googling for that printer comes up with the foo2zjs as the right driver
[16:02] <pteague_work> yeah, it's turned on & has paper in it
[16:03] <Sonja> how do i customize the little weather thingy on the panel to display "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:03] <roentgen> soundray: that's how I did it the first time but it didn't work. I don't have a dropdown with 'app in terminal' AFAIKS
[16:03] <truna> pteague_work, any of the printer buttons you can manipulate to do a test print from its front panel?
[16:04] <roentgen> soundray: lol I saw the dropdown now
[16:04] <soundray> roentgen: well hidden :)
[16:04] <pteague_work> truna> there's 2 lights (the green is lit, the other isn't) & no buttons
[16:05] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:05] <truna> pteague_work, then try the old lpc or lpstat if any of those gives good status
[16:05] <truna> pteague_work, what kind of printer is that with no buttons, not even to turn it off? heh
[16:05] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:05] <roentgen> soundray: man gnome-terminal coming right up :P
[16:06] <Dr_Evil> Hi, I want to execute a "chmod 0777 /dev/sda9" after system start, which would be the correct file to add this (without the need to type the root password)
[16:06] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  could toss that in rc.local
[16:06] <ikonia> Dr_Evil: you don't change teh device file
[16:06] <Sonja> how do i customize the little weather thingy on the panel to display "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:06] <Dr_willis> but its odd. that you are chmoding a device file.
[16:06] <erefasdfsd> PICI: i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:06] <pteague_work> truna> oh, it has an on/off switch on the back, but that's it
[16:06]  * Dr_willis agrees with ikonia 
[16:07] <Dr_Evil> Dr_willis thanks
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  what filesystem is on the device you are mounting?
[16:07] <pteague_work> hmm... not even sure how to check using lpstat... lpstat -h localhost:usb ?
[16:07] <erefasdfsd> so no more ideas, i can delete ubuntu???
[16:07] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  because chmoding the dev entry is totally the wrong way to set the permissions.
[16:07] <Dr_Evil> Dr_willis I'm developing an os and want to write to that partition from a userlevel script
[16:08] <truna> pteague_work, maybe it is hidden inside a panel? there got to be a way to unjamm it, a user has to be able to press feed paper or something
[16:08] <wols_> erefasdfsd: you have a ATI card, why would nvidia drivers work?
[16:08] <Dr_willis> Dr_Evil,  Hmm... ok.. good luck.. HOPE ya dont plugin a usb device that changes around the entries. :)
[16:08] <soundray> erefasdfsd: what did you enter for horizontal sync and vertical refresh as you went through dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:08] <wols_> erefasdfsd: as told before you need the fglrx driver
[16:08] <ikonia> Dr_Evil: if you don't know how device files, you won't be able to develop an OS
[16:08] <truna> pteague_work, lpc  then status
[16:08] <pteague_work> truna> lpstat -h localhost -p shows same print status as the printing panel
[16:08] <pteague_work> k
[16:08] <kerle> хай мэн
[16:08] <erefasdfsd> the pici told me to type next:sudo restricted-manager -enable=fglrx
[16:09] <erefasdfsd> so i guess i my laptop can't run UBUNTU and that's it
[16:09] <wols_> ikonia: sometimes, when I look at ubuntu I wanna kill myself.
[16:09] <ikonia> wols_: as in #ubuntu or ubuntu
[16:09] <wols_> ikonia: #ubuntu
[16:09] <truna> pteague_work, honestly, I'd dump that kind of printer when there are no buttons for the end user to press for paper feed, etc
[16:09] <ikonia> wols_: I have your back ;)
[16:09] <soundray> erefasdfsd: what did you enter for horizontal sync and vertical refresh as you went through dpkg-reconfigure?
[16:09] <Dr_Evil> ikonia so what would you do in order to write to a parition without sudo?
[16:10] <erefasdfsd> nothing soundray, there was no that optio
[16:10] <wols_> Dr_Evil: doing so is a stupid thng in the first place
[16:10] <ikonia> Dr_Evil: well for starters thats a device file, you don't write to the device file you mount it, also you don't chmod it, udev will manage it for you. I suggest you put your OS on hold and work out how the OS works first
[16:10] <erefasdfsd> i got lot of thesse "No NVIDIA hardware available" #debug, and as a sugar on the end i got Segmentation Fault
[16:10] <erefasdfsd> it is graphic card problem
[16:11] <wols_> erefasdfsd: for the LAST time, you will need the fglrx driver. NOT any nvidia driver
[16:11] <Dr_willis> a user could be using a 'file' as a test device for writing to. and not using a real device. also.
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> and famous linux hardware recognition
[16:11] <ikonia> erefasdfsd: why are you using nvidia when you have an ati card
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> where can i get fglrx driver, and how to install it please
[16:11] <wols_> erefasdfsd: ubuntu didn't install nvidia drivers on its own
[16:11] <ikonia> !ops
[16:11] <wols_> !ati | erefasdfsd
[16:11] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[16:11] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:11] <ikonia> !!opps | erefasdfsd trolling
[16:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:11] <andres_22> hello. why i cant change de own of a ntfs partition?
[16:11] <erefasdfsd> ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run I DOWNLOADED THIS ONE
[16:11] <ikonia> wols_: enough now, this has gone on long enough
[16:12] <Rost> Ãàíäîíû!
[16:12] <Myrtti> ikonia: huh
[16:12] <Mez> !botabuse | ikonia
[16:12] <ubotu> ikonia: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:12] <Rost> Fuk YOU
[16:12] <shashwat> Hi all my frnd has BioStar Tforce 550 - ALC861 onboard audio chip and he is not getting any sound ? any help ?
[16:12] <erefasdfsd> ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run I DOWNLOADED THIS ONE
[16:12] <ppatzt> hi ... i want to program a little in C and have gcc _and_ the build-essential installed ... after doin  "gcc -c file.c" it gives me a file.o output but the output is no executable file ... i dont have a clue!!
[16:12] <Mez> too quick for me Sevease
[16:12] <Mez> !repeat | erefasdfsd
[16:12] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:13] <pteague_work> truna> same, i didn't even order it...  just ended up with something i need to print out for boss (he has a hard time even figuring out email)...
[16:13] <Mez> !caps | erefasdfsd
[16:13] <ubotu> erefasdfsd: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[16:13] <shashwat> Hi Guys my friend has got BioStar Tforce 550 -with  ALC861 onboard audio but he is not getting any audio output ?
[16:13] <ikonia> Mez: are in in -op
[16:13] <truna> ppatzt, gcc -o fileexecutable -c hello.c
[16:13] <andres_22> hello. how i can change de own of a ntfs partition? i try whith chown but didnt work
[16:13] <Myrtti> andres_22: basically, you don't, use mount options
[16:13] <truna> pteague_work, i bet its only printing in Chinese Caligraphy too? lol
[16:14] <pteague_work> lol
[16:14] <ppatzt> truna: bash: ./hello.o: cannot execute binary file
[16:14] <Seveas> andres_22, ntfs doesn't understand linux permissions. You need to set permissions when mounting
[16:14] <mpav_> Is there a doc on how to upgrade from Ubuntu desktop to Ubuntu server?
[16:14] <andres_22> how seveas?
[16:14] <Seveas> mpav_, apt-get install linux-server
[16:14] <piglit> can i please ask some questions?(1)has Ubuntu got a firewall standard installed? (2) where can i find the logfile ?
[16:14] <truna> ppatzt, why hello.o  use a regular file name without extension
[16:14] <Seveas> mpav_, that installs the server kernel, other than that there are no differences
[16:15] <mpav_> Seveas: do i need to uninstall other packages?
[16:15] <Dr_willis> !firewall | piglit
[16:15] <ubotu> piglit: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:15] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:15] <Seveas> mpav_, if you want
[16:15] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[16:15] <mpav_> Seveas: thanks
[16:15] <truna> pteague_work, umm i dont know where else to look, look maybe in /var/adm or /var/share for the cups queue
[16:15] <shashwat> Hi Guys my friend has got BioStar Tforce 550 -with  ALC861 onboard audio but he is not getting any audio output ?
[16:15] <ezquerro> i have uninstaled compiz and xgl and now my gnome doesn't have title bars
[16:15] <shashwat> please help
[16:15] <ezquerro> and i don't know how to enable them again
[16:16] <kane77> ppatzt, if you want executable why you use -c option?
[16:16] <Seveas> ezquerro, metacity --replace
[16:16] <kitche> ezquerro: metacity --replace & in a terminal
[16:16] <truna> pteague_work, since its a usb, i guess cable is okay, try to plug and unplug..see if anything make a difference
[16:16] <pteague_work> k
[16:16] <andres_22> how can i mount a ntfs partition, but the own doesnt be root?
[16:16] <chazco> Does anyone know how to disable subtitles by default in Totem?
[16:16] <shashwat> use ntfs-config
[16:16] <ezquerro> thanks Seveas and kitche
[16:16] <Dr_willis> andres_22,  with the proper options to mount.
[16:17] <Dr_willis> andres_22,  ntfs-3g filesystem is normally used. example fstab entry is --> /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[16:17] <ppatzt> kane77, thx .. i dont have clue y i used -c option ... *?* ... whatever it works
[16:17] <kane77> ppatzt, -c means compile but won't link the files...
[16:18] <ppatzt> kane77, ic ... rtfm ^^ ...
[16:18] <andres_22> ok
[16:18] <kane77> ppatzt, use only gcc source.c -o executable
[16:18] <crashev> anyonw owns a soundcard - Creative SB Live! 24-bit Ext/USB - and managed to get control over all 5 channels ?
[16:18] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:18] <Dr_willis> crashev,  for my internal SB live cards - I have to use the alsamixer or alsamixergui tool to enable the rear channels that then mirror the front ones.
[16:19] <rsa> Hey i cant get my remote to work on my install.. i installed lirc wih the correct module but its not responding to my remote
[16:19] <Dr_willis> !lirc
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <rsa> Dr_willis: i read that
[16:19] <truna> rsa what is lirc?
[16:20] <chazco> rsa - Is it a DVB remote?
[16:20] <crashev> Dr_willis: actually channels works ok, the test with speaker-test works ok and I can watch movies in 5.1 mode for example with mplayer using -channels 6 option ,the problem is that in alsamixer I got only one channel to control called PCM and thats all
[16:20] <Myrtti> linux infra red devices etc
[16:20] <Myrtti> s/devices/control/
[16:20] <Dr_willis> crashev,  odd.. In alsamixer on my internal cards - i must have 40+ channels. :)
[16:21] <truna> chazco, you're the guy developing that infra red driver? how is that coming?
[16:21] <mavez> yes
[16:21] <chazco> I only modified keycodes... works fine, can control most of my PC by remote now though
[16:21] <olaff> can i define a differnt source for apt-get install build-essential?? im doing it remotely and it wants the cd.... :¬S
[16:22] <chazco> rsa - If it is a DVB remote (e.g. Hauupage) then build and install the latest v4l-dvb modules... these have more support built in
[16:22] <kitche> olaff: you have to remove the apt-cdrom from your sources.list
[16:22] <malocite> does anyone know if there is a new open source driver for the radeon 9000?  I know ati is releasing source code, I Was just wondering if there was a new driver for my old card yet
[16:22] <olaff> ahh, thanks kitche: where is that located?
[16:22] <kitche> olaff: /etc/apt/
[16:22] <olaff> thanks!
[16:23] <HardDisk> malocite, no.
[16:23] <malocite> HardDisk: Thanks, figured as much :)
[16:23] <fromvega> Hello, I've tried to update openoffice.org through synaptic but during the proccess it said something about package conflict and now the openoffice icons from gnome menu were gone! I have tried to remove and install openoffice again but the icons didn't show up. Do you know how to fix this? Tks!
[16:23] <erUSUL> malocite: for your card your better option is the existing "radeon" driver or "ati"
[16:23] <GNU\colossus> is there a ncurses tool for reconfiguring network interfaces?
[16:24] <rsa> chazco: well i have a supported Microsoft controller something
[16:24] <malocite> HardDisk: When I do the tests under cedega it tells me everything works accept 3d acceleration
[16:24] <Sonja> how do i get the weather display on the panel to show "feels like" besides the actual temperature?
[16:24] <olaff> nice one kitche, worked :)
[16:24] <alcoholic> lol
[16:24] <rsa> chazco: its a phillips universal remote..
[16:24] <pvl> what i waste of time
[16:24] <Seveas> squeek...
[16:24] <malocite> :)  Ok :)
[16:24] <mavez> lol
[16:24] <Sonja> lulz @ dj-sqeek
[16:24] <go|dfish> WTF?
[16:24] <chazco> Hmm... may be trickier then... lirc is notoriously tricky to setup if its not a standard remote
[16:24] <mavez> ROFL
[16:25] <Casey> that was cute
[16:25] <Borbus> That's dj-squeeks highlight of the week
[16:25] <DG19075> lol
[16:25] <Seveas> pa-dam-pam-ching
[16:25] <malocite> mavez: Damn it, now microsoft owns ubuntu too....  thats about as official an announcement that i need :)
[16:25] <evgeni> hi, I installed ubuntu desktop version, but I really need to host a website on this machine, what server/hosting applications would you recommend to get?
[16:25] <mavez> oh yes
[16:25] <Borbus> Yeah I mean... it's a notice
[16:25] <rsa> chazco: well i also have a Xbox 360 remote and the phillips one can change itself to act like any remote :D
[16:25] <chazco> evgeni - look at lamp
[16:25] <Borbus> Well we may as well all /part then
[16:25] <chazco> !lamp > evgeni
[16:25] <Seveas> evgeni, apache2
[16:25] <mavez> good game
[16:25] <malocite> whats the command to see which driver your video card is using currently?
[16:26] <nomic> anyone know how i run a session without X?  I need a text root
[16:26] <evgeni> so lamp or apache2?
[16:26] <rsa> chazco: the main problem is that when i start irw its not picking up any of my keystrokes
[16:26] <malocite> nomic: Did you try ctrl alt f2?
[16:26] <nomic> ok will try
[16:26] <Borbus> malocite, in ubuntu you can do system > administration > screen and graphics
[16:26] <nomic> ty
[16:27] <chazco> rsa - Mine neither... in the end if just modifed v4l-dvb (which handles my remote) and got it working
[16:27] <Seveas> malocite, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:27] <Borbus> nomic, su - root in a terminal should have the same effect
[16:27] <r-wolf> evgeni: lamp = Linux+Apache+MySQL+Perl
[16:27] <evgeni> oh sweet!
[16:27] <evgeni> so it's all in one
[16:27] <rsa> chazco: huh.. i dont understand. Irrecord did recieve input but irw didnt
[16:27] <DG19075> anyone who does that is eithe immature and/or has too much time on his/her hands
[16:27] <chazco> evgeni - Lamp is eaisiest to install (use tasksel)
[16:28] <chazco> !lamp | evgeni
[16:28] <ubotu> evgeni: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:28] <malocite> seveas: it says fglrx is that the official driver or the open source
[16:28] <Borbus> Or more often than not, PHP instead of Perl
[16:28] <DG19075> referriing to dj squeek
[16:28] <r-wolf> k, perl or php or python
[16:28] <Seveas> malocite, the closed-source driver from amd
[16:28] <evgeni> very awesome, thanks so much guys/gals
[16:28] <chazco> rsa - Do any keys work already... it may be one that acts like a keyboard, which is tricky for lirc
[16:28] <Seveas> r-wolf, or puby
[16:28] <r-wolf> :)
[16:28] <rsa> chazco: urm niether on my 360 or universal remote work
[16:28] <Seveas> could also be mostgrs instead of mysql
[16:28] <malocite> seveas: Hmm... isn't that one supposed to support 3dacceleration?
[16:29] <Seveas> malocite, yes
[16:29] <rsa> ive loaded the mceusb module which is the correct one for my reciever..
[16:29] <rsa> but the reciever still doesnt want to pick up any signals or something else is wrong
[16:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How can I generate an asound.conf and .asoundrc in Gutsy?
[16:30] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, with any text editor
[16:31] <sasha_> hi guys
[16:31] <robdeman> folks: Webmin and some kind of webmail... any idea?
[16:31] <Seveas> Biscuitian_Warhe, not that you rarely need one
[16:31] <Seveas> robdeman, replace webmin with ebox and use horde or squirrelmail
[16:31] <ikonia> robdeman: webmin - don't use it, webmail squirrelmail, horde, squaremail, sqwebmail
[16:31] <sasha_> i-ve some problems to setting up my nvidea hardware
[16:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Seveas: Yes, well aplay -L reports I have surround sound capabilities, however Gnome nor Alsamixer or anything reports this
[16:32] <robdeman> Seveas: webmin not use it? why is that?
[16:32] <rsa> chazco: irkick pick up when i start and stop lirc..
[16:32] <Speedbird787> screen resolution problem... anyone willing to help ?
[16:32] <Seveas> robdeman, because it's rather unsafe
[16:32] <robdeman> Seveas: really? im using it iver a tunneled SSH connection?
[16:32] <sasha_> i-ve installed the nvidea driver according to its instructions
[16:32] <Seveas> robdeman, debian and ubuntu removed it from their repos mainly due to it being a security issue. That's a big red flag for me
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: ehrm damn
[16:33] <Seveas> robdeman, that makes it safer already, but you should imho still consider using ebox :)
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: is it also unsafe when port 10000 is not available for anybody but them who tunnel over ssh?
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: I just looked ebox up -- looks really sophisticated
[16:33] <robdeman> Seveas: Im just now stuck to Webmin :-/ will check and replac ethat later I guess
[16:33] <Seveas> robdeman, it's less unsafe but I still don't trust it
[16:35] <Aquahallic> mornin' folks
[16:35] <dexem> robdeman: and ebox guys are really kind with users... O:-)
[16:35] <Matir> Anyone else having trouble getting to the community docs?
[16:36] <adamonline45> Hello everyone.  A couple nights ago I set up DHCP on one linux box, and most of my machines are goin' good.  However, one in parrticular insists on renewing via dhcp, even though its /etc/network/interfaces file defines it as being static.  I have a similar interfaces file on my other server, and it seems to be working fine...  Does anyone know how to stop it from renewing its IP address via DHCP?
[16:36] <Aquahallic> I have an nvidia geforce mx 440 se... and am having some problems getting the correct drivers installed
[16:36] <different_realit> What's the equivalent program in ubuntu for shoutcast for web radio ?
[16:37] <HardDisk> icecast.
[16:37] <different_realit> tnx :)
[16:37] <HardDisk> and there is shoutcast for linux
[16:37] <HardDisk> it's in the shoutcast website
[16:37] <different_realit> oh :)
[16:37] <Aquahallic> if I do an apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy it goes through and installs but then I get a GLX missing error from X
[16:37] <HardDisk> if you just want to listen to shoutcast streams, install streamtuner
[16:37] <Aquahallic> anyone have any exprience with this???
[16:38] <adamonline45> !screen
[16:38] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[16:38] <different_realit> HardDisk thank u :)
[16:38] <n3u> hi everyone ..., i need ur help. why my GUI network adapter can't work normally, i can put static IP Address, couse the configuration like 'Not Responding' each i open it. thanks before.
[16:39]  * rsa is looking for a LIRC GURU
[16:39] <n3u> Mistake : sorry , i can't put the static IP Address ..
[16:40] <sasha_> installing the nvidea driver i'm able to have the advanced desktop effect
[16:40] <nownot> looking to see if anyone know about a irc clint that is text based b/c i have no gui on ubuntu server
[16:40] <sasha_> but now
[16:40] <rsa> nownot: IRSSI..
[16:40] <cliebow> irssi
[16:40] <rsa> nownot: best irc client.. ever
[16:40] <sasha_> the fonts (text string) are not well readable :-(
[16:40]  * rsa NEEDS LIRC GURU
[16:41] <robdeman> how do I install ebox on Ubuntu 6.10?
[16:41] <adamonline45> Does anyone feel like walking me through a 'screen' session?  i want to detatchably run an interactive console-based daemon on one machine, from another, with the option to reconnect :)
[16:41] <sasha_> all the text on my desktop are really ugly :-( can i set it in the xorg.conf ?
[16:42] <sasha_> maybe can i paste it , to see if something is wrong ?
[16:42] <adp> hi. when I start xsane it coredumps right after a window that says 'scanning for devices'. It didn't used to do this.
[16:42] <adp> how can I fix it?
[16:42] <adp> using ubunti 7.04
[16:43] <bmoney> !dvd
[16:43] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:44] <kinroad> after upgrading to gutsy the menu texts in firefox have been in very small font. How can I fix that?
[16:44] <malocite> which driver is better to use for an ati 9000?  The open source or the fglrx (closed source)  - I'm trying to see which is better for playing 3d games
[16:45] <nownot> in irssi how do i leave a channel?
[16:45] <kitche> malakhi: fglrx if you want 3d support
[16:45] <Juhaz> /part
[16:45] <malocite> kitche: so the open source doesnt do 3d right now then... thanks
[16:45] <nownott> awesome
[16:46] <nownott> ok well is there a way to have multiple channels open at once?
[16:46] <bmoney> !dvd
[16:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:46] <kitche> malocite: it will never do 3d for the ati driver the radeonhd will but for the 9000 series it won't since radeonhd is for the newer cards
[16:46] <greedo> what could be the reason: when i boot ubuntu with my wacom graphire plugged - it works smoothly (absolute mode etc). BUT when i plug it after having booted, it's fucked up :(
[16:46] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. i need to switch the java versieion i'm using (currently GCJ) need to switch to sun or some such,, how do i change it,, tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure java" and it says "java" isn't the right package name,, what is the package name?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> NET||abuse,  i recall the proper command to use being at the !java factoid page.
[16:47] <Dr_willis> !java
[16:47] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[16:47]  * Dr_willis looks
[16:47] <dexem> robdeman: It's difficult for Ubuntu 6.10, but you can try on #ebox or http://forum.eboxplatform.com/
[16:47] <sentano> Thanks to ikonia I have just managed to create a separate /home partition using aysiu's excellent guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome , a big thanks to all the powerful knowledge you forum-people give to newbies like me :)
[16:48] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, I've install the sun-java6-jre but it still points to GCJ
[16:48] <Dr_willis> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:48] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, ahhh, thanks
[16:48] <Dr_willis> I think thats what ya want NET||abuse
[16:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:48] <Dr_willis> and no - i never have figured out the update-alternatives system :)
[16:49] <Dr_willis> or how it relates to the dpkg-reconfigure stuff..  guess its 2 similer ways of setting defaults for things.
[16:49] <freeshellplz> hi
[16:49] <NET||abuse> Dr_willis, yup,, ok ,see if aptana will work now ;) thanks
[16:49] <freeshellplz> hi
[16:49] <n3u> hi everyone ..., i need ur help. why my GUI network adapter can't work normally, i can't put static IP Address, couse the configuration like 'Not Responding' each i open it. thanks before.
[16:49] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:49] <LetterRip> hi anyone here who could suggest where to look for a list of mount points?
[16:50] <leitao> hello, is there a way to install a group of package (using apt) that gives me most of the development packages (automake, gcc, glibc-dev, etc)?
[16:50] <bmoney> where do you get the codec to play dvds
[16:50] <endo> does anyone know how I can update my programs (amarok, banshee, rythembox) to use libgpod 0.6.0?
[16:50] <maarten_> Hi I have a question about reporting bugs on http://bugs.launchpad.net
[16:50] <sandr-> freeshellplz, just type your question and maybe people answer
[16:50] <miNickEsNick> n3u... the GUI network is a piece of shit
[16:50] <leitao> I am aware that yum has a groupinstall Development Tools. Is there anything similar?
[16:50] <scguy318> !dvd | bmoney
[16:50] <kitche> leitao: build-essentials
[16:50] <ubotu> bmoney: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:50] <Cromag> !essentials
[16:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essentials - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <LetterRip> i have a mount point that i'd like to switch to mounting, and the sytem things there is a mount point that is non existant
[16:50] <Cromag> ye
[16:50] <endo> !libgpod
[16:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <leitao> kitche: ok
[16:50] <bmoney> i read that scguy318... it doesnt find the package
[16:50] <scguy318> !medibuntu | bmoney
[16:50] <ubotu> bmoney: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:51] <bmoney> ty
[16:51] <scguy318> bmoney: this is what you need
[16:51] <Filled-Void> Will KDE 4.0 be available in the repos when it is released ? I dont have kde installed at the moment but if I installed it on my machine I would get KDE 3.5 . Could I upgrade this to 4? Id like to try KDE
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <miNickEsNick> n3u... sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 -> put static IP in the interface eth0
[16:51] <freeshellplz> free shell plz !
[16:51] <maarten_> When I try to logon to launchpad, I enter my username and password, click on continue, but then nothing happens!
[16:51] <leitao> kitche: how should I install it?
[16:51] <rocazul> holas
[16:51] <rocazul> alguien habla español
[16:51] <Myrtti> !es | rocazul
[16:51] <ubotu> rocazul: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:51] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:51] <freeshellplz> help me!
[16:52] <miNickEsNick> n3u... sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 -> put the default gateway
[16:52] <rocazul> que es lo que necesitas
[16:52] <rocazul> que tipo de ayuda
[16:52] <rocazul> es
[16:52] <bascule> Filled-Void: don't go near 4 yet
[16:52] <freeshellplz> need free shell
[16:52] <PriceChild> !es | rocazul
[16:52] <ubotu> rocazul: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <freeshellplz> need free shell
 what u mean ...? plizz help me
[16:52] <kitche> leitao: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:52] <freeshellplz> !es |chiz|
[16:52] <ubotu> chiz|: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <kitche> !offtopic | freeshellplz
[16:52] <PriceChild> !offtopic | freeshellplz
[16:52] <ubotu> freeshellplz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:52] <Filled-Void> bascule, Thanks for the advice :D
[16:52] <fony> Hi.. I'm having some problems with connecting to the wireless network with my Ubuntu-laptop.. It's simply not connecting.
[16:52] <HardDisk> try to > instead of | we don't need floods in the room.
[16:53] <paradroid> Hi. This is probably less an Ubuntu question than a general *nix question, but anyway. What would be the proper command to copy a range of files that are numbered in an ascending manner, e. g. from 400 to 600, but I only want 483 to 574?
[16:53] <bascule> Filled-Void: welcome, give it 6 months, 4.0 is really just for devs to get stuff working and a platform release for fimiliarity purposes
[16:53] <Filled-Void> bascule, Ok :) I see theres lot of expectations about this release hence just anxious to try it out
[16:54] <kitche> HardDisk: you could just ignore ubotu if you don't like people using |
[16:54] <mugen> hi, someone knows how to join files that are split with hacha pro?
[16:54] <bascule> Filled-Void: there is a live cd released, search it out and try that
[16:55] <Filled-Void> bascule, thanks will check it out
[16:55] <_mug> hey
[16:55] <leitao> kitche: thanks
[16:55] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: See seq(1)
[16:55] <Dr_willis> paradroid,  You can use the find command and a regular expression to define  range. I belive.
[16:56] <LetterRip> or is there a simple way to GREP every file on my computer less than a certain size for the text 'XT Series'
[16:56] <_mug> just upgraded to gutsy and im totally impressed. a few compiz-errors, but ubuntu gets better and better :P
[16:56] <evgeni> i love ubuntu.... so uber easy and awesome
[16:56] <n3u> fony ..., you can configure with network GUI , tools-> administrator-> network
[16:56] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: I am walking into the middle of this but it sounds like beagle would do that
[16:57] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, does beagle have to pre index?
[16:57] <LetterRip> also i have very limited space on the drive i am using right now
[16:57] <n3u> miNickEsNick... thanks for u help ...
[16:57] <LetterRip> (500 megabyte or so...)
[16:57] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: No, it will index whatever you have and crawl while you work
[16:57] <paradroid> AJC_Z0: Dr_willis: Thank you.
[16:57] <nomic> ping
[16:58] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, okay - well i don't want it to index is the issue
[16:58] <PurpZeY> whyy?
[16:58] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: Welcome. seq(1) is one of those little-known magic tools in the box
[16:58] <LetterRip> because there is no space on the drive
[16:58] <miNickEsNick> n3u... can you connect with a static IP now?
[16:58] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: thank you
[16:58] <paradroid> AJC_Z0: Yep, at least in my case not anymore. ;)
[16:58] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Got it working?
[16:59] <nomic> i am trying to install a driver which needs to be run without X - I have used ctrl-alt-F2 to get into a user without X but it says I am running an X session where is the lock for this located?  Is there another way of getting into a session without X?
[16:59] <RenatoSilva> nickrud: thank you
[16:59] <LetterRip> a typical index will take about 1GB if my experience with windows and google indexes are anything to go by
[16:59] <HardDisk> kitche, it's not about not liking it, it is an option.
[16:59] <AJC_Z0> paradroid: Note that it's specific to Linux platforms. On FreeBSD there's jot(1)
[16:59] <nomic> anyone
[16:59] <kitche> HardDisk: my irssi has a script to do > but I m on mirc right now so I use my script
[17:00] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: Somehow that strikes me as bizarre
[17:00] <HardDisk> kitche, it's not about the script, ubotu picks it up.
[17:00] <HardDisk> it's part of the trigger.
[17:01] <kitche> HardDisk: I know , nvm you didmn't get wqhat I said
[17:01] <nownott> ok in irssi how do i close windows more specifically nickserv windows?
[17:01] <LetterRip> PurpZeY, I think i can pipe the output of a find by size to a grep
[17:01] <LetterRip> so that should do it
[17:01] <kitche> nownot: /query
[17:02] <kitche> nownot: for channel windows it's just /part
[17:02] <different_realit> if i install a previous versi0on of ubuntu can I just upgrade it to 7.10 ?
[17:02] <PurpZeY> LetterRip: You can do it that way -- I think
[17:02] <HardDisk> uhh /query initiates a chat.
[17:02] <nownott> kitche: can you answer a few more question i have?
[17:02] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Yes, but why?
[17:02] <HardDisk> he asked how to close.
[17:02] <kitche> HardDisk: /query as well closes it
[17:03] <HardDisk> then i've been away on irssi for too long
[17:03] <cwccie> hello, does anyone know how I can get an intel pro/1000 working in 7.10?
[17:03] <different_realit> PurpZeY well supposedly i have version 5.1 handy... i was thinking if i could just install it and then automatically upgrade... can u tell me how i can do it plz ?
[17:03] <nownott> how do i ignore part / join messages
[17:03] <kitche> HardDisk: /query nick does a query but /query by itself in the chat window closes the pm window
[17:04] <HardDisk> I should get back to irssi to see what else's been changed
[17:04] <PurpZeY> different_realit: You don't want to do that
[17:04] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: not exactly as before, but it's fine. The solution was: echo “SKIP_CHECKS=yes” > ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager, installing emerald and my decorator, compizconfig-settings-manager, and enabling effects
[17:04] <nownott> _/query nick initiates the chat with the user doesnt it? i just tried it and it worked
[17:04] <different_realit> PurpZeY why not ?
[17:04] <nownott> without the _
[17:04] <kitche> nownot: /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS should do it if not flip #ubuntu and the +JOINS +QUITS +PARTS around
[17:04] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Upgrade from 5.* ????
[17:05] <HardDisk> different_realit, no.
[17:05] <nownott> instead of doing it for #ubuntu is there a way to do it for all channels?
[17:05] <different_realit> PurpZeY at the moment i have 7.1 what happens when a newer version is created?
[17:05] <HardDisk> different_realit, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:05] <different_realit> thanks
[17:05] <kitche> nownot: hmm mayve a * for #ubuntu I usually do it by channel never really did a wildcard ignore for joins and parts
[17:05] <Hypergraphe> yo
[17:05] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Now I want to reinstall everything, putting most of steps into a script to amutomate the process. The reason to reinstall is that I don't feel "clear" about what I did, and to test this automation I'm planning to do with every new version of Ubuntu
[17:05] <peepsalot> my sister has a laptop with, IIRC, celeron 2.4Ghz and 256MB ram.  Can Ubuntu run on this?  She is having troubles installing from LiveCD
[17:06] <PriceChild> !alternate | peepsalot
[17:06] <PurpZeY> different_realit: For 7.4 and beyond you will get an auto-upgrade
[17:06] <ubotu> peepsalot: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[17:06] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I'm gonna search for help about related questions now
[17:06] <different_realit> i c... :)
[17:06] <Arjun> hey every one ... is it ok if I post a short flood quick please dont wanna re write my entire question again
[17:06] <nownott> kitche = god of irssi!!!!!
[17:06] <mhiku> how to know the remaining of the harddisk?
[17:07] <peepsalot> PriceChild, do you think problem is that she doesn't have enough ram for the LiveCD?
[17:07] <PurpZeY> different_realit: Start from 5.10 is like starting with a Model-T and building a Corvette
[17:07] <PriceChild> peepsalot, indeed
[17:07] <HardDisk> peepsalot, could also be a videocard loading issue.
[17:07] <Arjun> I take that as we dont really care go ahaead
[17:07] <different_realit> PurpZeY heh ok.. i was just curious
[17:07] <HardDisk> but go with alternative.
[17:07] <Arjun>  hey every one
 MMMM
 ok well Ive just installed ubuntu for the first time and it has picked up my ethernet card
 it however doesnt wanna ping my router and can not b pinged from other pcs
 I can ping myself though
 anyhelp please kinda new to the whole linux thung
 really dont wanna go back to the evilness of satans os
 anyone thewre
[17:08] <PurpZeY> different_realit: If it is a fresh install, I wouldn't go that way, I can't imagine anyone would disagree with me
 there ??
 oops wrong channel
 bye
 #ubuntu
 argh
[17:08] <Javid> holy shit he pasted lines lynch him
[17:08] <Arjun> lol
[17:08] <HardDisk> Arjun, next time post it on one line
[17:08] <Pici> !language | Javid
[17:08] <ubotu> Javid: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:08] <Pici> !paste | Arjun
[17:08] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:08] <Arjun> dudes I asked for permission please forgive me though
[17:08] <Javid> get the pitchforks, he pasted lines HE PASTED LINES
[17:08] <PurpZeY> Anyone find my analysis to be incorrect, for a  fresh install starting at 5.10 is a bad idea, with the intention of upgrading upwards?
[17:08] <HardDisk> you asked for permission, but you weren't given permission
[17:08] <Pici> Javid: Please stop.
[17:09] <HardDisk> PurpZeY, you're correct.
[17:09] <RenatoSilva> Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:09] <HardDisk> PurpZeY, if he wanted to try the upgrade, at least he could install feisty, then upgrade to gutsy.
[17:09] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: If it's commented take out the #
[17:09] <PurpZeY> HardDisk: Yes, I agree to that certainly.
[17:09] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it must be done through script
[17:10] <HardDisk> but nothign before feisty though.
[17:10] <HardDisk> nothing*
[17:10] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: BASH script is just a way of executing a series of commands
[17:10] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: currently I just edit the file manually
[17:10] <Dr_willis> Sounds like a job for some fancy perl coding.. :)
[17:10] <HardDisk> Dr_Evil, you mean python :)
[17:10] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: What is it you are trying to do?
[17:10] <Chousuke> RenatoSilva: doing it with bash will probably be too difficult
[17:10] <Dr_willis> RenatoSilva,  Perl is very good at doing jobs like that.
[17:10] <HardDisk> Dr_willis*
[17:10] <HardDisk> damn nick completers.
[17:10] <febe> ciao
[17:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:10] <febe> !list
[17:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:11] <RenatoSilva> Chousuke: :( jut like I thought
[17:11] <soulrider> my friend sais he cant install ebcause he apparently has a broken sector in his HD, is there any way to bypass this?
[17:11] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I missed something, what is it you are trying to do?
[17:11] <soulrider> his hd is about tod ie actually, and buying another one is not an option
[17:11] <Kasplatt> I can't get Flash plugin for firefox to work
[17:11] <peepsalot> HardDisk, PriceChild she had a dapper LiveCD, and it would load, but when she tried to start install procedure it would just freeze.  then she tried Gutsy LiveCD and can't even get into the LiveCD.  She sees random vertical lines or something.  So assuming the alternate install works, will it run very well on 256MB ram, and will she be able to boot up without messed up graphics?
[17:11] <HardDisk> soulrider, fix the bad sector.
[17:11] <soulrider> HardDisk, yeah, but how ?
[17:11] <Kasplatt> love left the room , hahaha
[17:11] <soulrider> fsck ?
[17:11] <HardDisk> peepsalot, yes.
[17:11] <PriceChild> peepsalot, should be "reasonable" on full install
[17:11] <RenatoSilva> Dr_willis: I thought about Ruby wich do same stuff as perl, but don't know how it could be done. How?
[17:12] <PurpZeY> soulrider: I read an article about super-heating harddrives to save data....oen time only though I thinks
[17:12] <HardDisk> soulrider, boot from a livecd, then fsck --help in terminal
[17:12] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, i've run it on 128mb before
[17:12] <HardDisk> soulrider, fsck is like chkdsk for linux
[17:12] <peepsalot> PriceChild, gnome?
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, yes
[17:12] <frosty> ok well copy and past for irrsi?
[17:12] <peepsalot> ok
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, i was just patient
[17:12] <peepsalot> hehe
[17:12] <HardDisk> peepsalot, the alternative cd is only a text based installer.
[17:12] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: So, when that script runs, you want to know if it ran the command X, and if it didn't you want it to?
[17:12] <HardDisk> peepsalot, but it will install gnome for you.
[17:12] <PriceChild> peepsalot, for normal use i put fluxbox on
[17:12] <akira46> Hi, i would like to modify /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease, to have a (fake) different version of my kernel, in my chroot, you think it's possible ? (actually, this file is write protected)
[17:13] <HardDisk> peepsalot, you could also try xubuntu, which is a lighter flavor.
[17:13] <akira46> Anyone can help me ?
[17:13] <Kasplatt> peepsalot: xubuntu is nice
[17:13] <PirateHead> !anyone | akira46
[17:13] <ubotu> akira46: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:13] <peepsalot> yeah, i might suggest xubuntu to her.  i've used it before.
[17:13] <soulrider> HardDisk, my frind is halways around the country IMing me form his cell :P
[17:13] <kaka> rjrjjes
[17:13] <wild_oscar> can anyone help me figure out why my 5.1 configuration does not work?
[17:13] <wild_oscar> I can hear the 6 speakers with
[17:13] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the content is "modprobe martian_dev && martian_modem --daemon "
[17:13] <Arjun> ok guys seriously now is there anyone out there that could give me some advice on how to get my ubuntu pc to connect to my router
[17:13] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Or you want it to run that command all the time, I mean, what I am missing is, if the code is there, and it is commented out, all you have to do is take out the # and it's not commented out anymore...
[17:13] <wild_oscar> speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 -twav
[17:13] <HardDisk> soulrider, I'm in the middle of the desert, ircing....
[17:13] <wild_oscar> but can't hear the rear and central speaker in xine
[17:13] <xtas> ubotu: isn't it a bit more polite to start with that "does anybody" question :)
[17:14] <PirateHead> akira46: It's possible, but it's not simple. You might want to ask in ##linux
[17:14] <adamonline45> peepsalot: I am using xubuntu on a Pentium 2 400MHz, 128MB, everything went nicely, and it runs great, albeit a little slow compared to my pther computer 8)
[17:14] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, but are you looking to have it run that command every time?
[17:14] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:14] <HardDisk> wild_oscar, alsamixer
[17:14] <Kasplatt> I need to get FLASH plugin to work for firefox . I get a md5checksum error and then it doesn't install
[17:14] <Pici> xtas: Not when the channel is flooded with 'does anyone' Also, ubotu is a bot.
[17:14] <Pici> !flashisssues | Kasplatt
[17:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashisssues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:14] <Monobi> Hola. I'm installing the server edition of 7.10, and I'm at the start up screen. Should I a) Install to the hard drive or b) install a LAMP server  ?
[17:14] <Pici> !flashissues | Kasplatt
[17:14] <ubotu> Kasplatt: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:14] <xtas> Pici: Yes, found out its a bot. got a pm :)
[17:14] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: #bash might give you a good answer.
[17:14] <HardDisk> Kasplatt, read topic.
[17:14] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Remember yesterday when we tried to help you but you wouldn't answer our questions? Let's try again, are you trying to get that same line to run all the time?
[17:14] <Pici> Monobi: Do you want a webserver setuo?
[17:14] <akira46> PirateHead: i asked in #linux, but i've not any  anwser :( you know how to do that ?
[17:15] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: If I can get a proper answer I can answer it I believe.
[17:15] <Arjun> FFS PPL this is supposed to be for general help .... WTF are you guys talking about and wtf arent you answering me .....
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the question is general. Is about addind a content to a script-like file, but echo stuff > file is NOT a good way to do it
[17:15] <PirateHead> akira46: I don't know how to have a special kernel inside a chroot, no. I know how you could do it in a virtual machine, though.
[17:15] <Pici> !patience | Arjun
[17:15] <ubotu> Arjun: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: thank you!!!
[17:15] <wild_oscar> HardDisk: what about it?
[17:15] <wild_oscar> everything is on
[17:15] <Borbus> Has anybody noticed that the flash graphs on Google Analytics don't work in ubuntu firefox...
[17:15] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I AM GOING TO ASK A FINAL TIME. Are you trying to get that command to run all the time?
[17:15] <Monobi> Pici, shell server
[17:15] <Kasplatt> Pici: thanks
[17:16] <Borbus> On 64bit.. with the wrapper
[17:16] <Arjun> thanx
[17:16] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: As in every time that shell-script runs
[17:16] <Pici> Monobi: Then you dont need the LAMP setup (Linux-Apache-Mysql-Perl)
[17:16] <HardDisk> ok chan's too crowded, I'm taking a break
[17:16] <Monobi> right
[17:16] <Monobi> thanks
[17:16] <akira46> PirateHead: yes, but my goal is to do that in a chroot, not in a true virtual machine !
[17:16] <Kasplatt> HardDisk: sorry
[17:16] <cwccie> Anyone know how to get an intel pro/1000 working in 7.10?
[17:16] <Pici> Arjun: How do you connect to the router?
[17:16] <PurpZeY> cwccie: Describe the problem. . . . .
[17:16] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: To run when system starts. It loads a modem driver and an user app important to this driver
[17:17] <Monobi> Arjun, get a ethernet cable, maybe? ;)
[17:17] <Arjun> well Ive got an eth cable and my onboard card
[17:17] <Monobi> Oh
[17:17] <PirateHead> cwccie: if you haven't already, try googling "Ubuntu intel pro/1000"
[17:17] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, so if you want it to run every time, regardless of whatever else happens, just uncomment the code
[17:17] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the script itself I want to write will be run once.
[17:17] <cwccie> the NIC is not installed, not available, not functioning... Wireless works just fine
[17:17] <Pici> Arjun: Is your main connection wireless or wired?
[17:17] <Arjun> I installed ubuntu wich apparently understood tht Ive got the card
[17:17] <Arjun> wired ;)
[17:17] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it's a kind of pos-install automating tool
[17:17] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: What is the END GOAL of all of this? At the end of the day, what do you wan t it to do?
[17:17] <Pici> Arjun: Can you pastebin the output of ifconfig please?
[17:18] <Pici> !pastebin | Arjun
[17:18] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <malocite> can anyone direct me to a good article that talks about ubuntu and multicore processors?
[17:18] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: it's a kind of pos-install automating tool
[17:18] <cwccie> The intel pro/1000 is wired
[17:18] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Do you have a list of the commands you want it to run?
[17:18] <Arjun> ok no prob where do you keep the pastebing
[17:18] <Arjun> oh soz
[17:18] <PirateHead> !pastebin | Arjun
[17:18] <ubotu> Arjun: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:18] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Post-install or post-bootup?
[17:18] <Arjun> I c
[17:18] <cwccie> yes, I have looked for documentation.. I was hoping that you guys had something I haven't seen
[17:18] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the end goal is: in every Ubuntu instalation from scratch, to run the script to install my specific winmodem out-of-the-box
[17:19] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, so, do you know the steps you took get it to work?
[17:19] <SpaminaCan> how come i can't unmount my external harddrive, it says it cant unmount it (i was root....) and then it remounts them....
[17:19] <Arjun> Ok where do I get the ip config output ... Im really new to linux
[17:19] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: get the modem working? I know exactly.
[17:19] <fony> Just this morning i installed ubuntu on my laptop. But I can't figure out how to make it find my wireless network. The Cabled one worked good. But it seems like it doesnt find the wireless one. Any ideas?
[17:19] <PurpZeY> Arjun: Run a terminal and type ifconfig
[17:19] <Arjun> ok
[17:19] <Arjun> brb
[17:19] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: How did you do it/
[17:20] <PirateHead> SpaminaCan: perhaps there is a process that has "locked onto" the drive and claims that it has an unfinished io operatation.
[17:20] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: You've got my question!
[17:20] <PirateHead> SpaminaCan: You could just keep killing processes until it lets you unmount. =P
[17:20] <Arjun> MMM it sais command not found
[17:20] <SpaminaCan> PirateHead, i thought about that..., so i removed it and replugged it in and tryed to unmount it......
[17:20] <SpaminaCan> same thing...
[17:20] <xtas> When I check system monitor -> resources -> CPU history its almost full of 100% is it that Ubuntu is using 100% of CPU all the time? But when I go to process -> and check   what is eating my cpu usage, theres nothing. its about MAX 10% according to process
[17:20] <PurpZeY> Arjun: You typoed it somehow ifconfig
[17:21] <Pici> Arjun: Its case sensitive, so make sure its all lowercase.
[17:21] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Compile and install source, add loading to rc.local then installing and configuring gnome-ppp. Why?
[17:21] <PirateHead> xtas: That's weird. Which one do you reckon is correct?
[17:21] <fony> Is there some way to troubleshoot my wireless network card on ubuntu? maybe there's a problem with the driver or .. something >.<
[17:21] <PirateHead> !wireless
[17:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:22] <whitehat> hello.any ideas why I am unable to run network-admin on xubuntu 7.10 after supplying root password.error is cannot access config file.ideas?
[17:22] <Monobi> Got another question... I have a 6 GB hd and a 41 GB hd.... the 41 is the slave, anyway to change that around w/o having to physically move the hd?
[17:22] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: The compiling end shouldn't be back, but, adding functions to rc.local is going to rather iffy from a bash script....can you manipulate gnome-ppp via CLI?
[17:22] <xtas> PirateHead: Okay. Now I changed the view mode to view all and YES there is a process eating more than 85% its called whiptail. Do you know what it is?
[17:22] <shadowh511> you have to change the jumper on it Monobi
[17:22] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: the question is general: how to be sure a line "123" will exist into a file right before a line like "exit 0" or nanything else, and uncommenting if necessary, and do nothing if it exists.
[17:23] <solorio> Kasplatt: Hi, are you ready to install it manually?
[17:23] <Pici> Monobi: ##hardware please, this channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[17:23] <PirateHead> xtas: I don't know what whiptail is. I would start by googling it.
[17:23] <xtas> ye
[17:23] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You will not uncomment it, you will have to use an if statement
[17:23] <Kasplatt> solorio: if that makes it work , then yes
[17:23] <crocd> has anybody setup a media server here?
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: I didn't understand your message before this
[17:24] <solorio> Kasplatt: I did it just yesterday
[17:24] <Pici> !anyone | crocd
[17:24] <ubotu> crocd: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: RenatoSilva: The compiling end shouldn't be back, but, adding functions to rc.local is going to rather iffy from a bash script....can you manipulate gnome-ppp via CLI?
[17:24] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Why not just set a environment variable and use a conditional statement rather than trying to comment and un-comment things?
[17:24] <crocd>                                                      
[17:24] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: how exactly?
[17:24] <wild_oscar> back
[17:24] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows and I can't get into Ubuntu. I've just reinstall GRUB, the boot screen appeared like before, but when I chose one, there's a problem, it say "error 17: cannot mount selected device" and it return to boot screen, I chose windows option, it boot to windows normally. Someone help me?
[17:24] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Ok, what you want to do is search for a certain line in local.rc....That will require an if statement in BASH script....and a variable....
[17:24] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: I'll pastebin something for you and post it in a sec.
[17:24] <wild_oscar> anyone knows why the 5.1 does not work?
[17:24] <solorio> Kasplatt: Do you need additional info?
[17:24] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: Gracias.
[17:25] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes please
[17:25] <crocd> ok has anybody successfully setup jinzora media server to stream music to  a PS3?
[17:25] <bazhang> gsevil: would you like a link/factoid for that?
[17:25] <i00_000i>  how to stop daemons from starting up automatically during booting
[17:25] <i00_000i> in ubuntu
[17:25] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: I just take my meds.
[17:25] <Dagaka> how do I create a package for ScummVM 0.10.0 now that i've compiled it?
[17:25] <psusi> gsevil: press e to edit the boot entry and tell me what the root line says
[17:25] <Dr_willis> !sysv
[17:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:25] <SpaminaCan> any one have an idea why i cant unmount my external harddrive?
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, scumm is in the repo's
[17:26] <PurpZeY> Dagaka: Once you have compiled something, you should be able to just run it at command line
[17:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. whats the default sysv  gui config tool  - i00_000i  needs it. :)
[17:26] <solorio> Kasplatt: OK - go to Adobe download site and get the Linux plugin
[17:26] <gsevil> someone reinstall windows and I can't get into Ubuntu. I've just reinstall GRUB, the boot screen appeared like before, but when I chose one, there's a problem, it say "error 17: cannot mount selected device" and it return to boot screen, I chose windows option, it boot to windows normally. Someone help me?
[17:26] <wild_oscar> SpaminaCan: not sudoing it, is busy?
[17:26] <pvl> is swap equivalent to XP's pagefile?
[17:26] <PurpZeY> !grub | gsevil
[17:26] <i00_000i> PurpZeY:watz meds
[17:26] <ubotu> gsevil: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, sudo apt-get install scummvm
[17:26] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: It was a oke.
[17:26] <Dagaka> I know but I wanted to make a deb package for future installs
[17:26] <PurpZeY> j
[17:26] <SpaminaCan> wild_oscar, last night i logged in as root and tried same thing it remounts it asap
[17:26] <HardDisk> Dagaka, it IS a deb package.
[17:26] <seanh> Anyone know if grsync will automatically try to re-copy files during a backup, if they failed on the first attempt? It seems to have gotten through all the files, and now is going back to individual files in different folders. What's it doing?
[17:26] <Kasplatt> i00_000i: meds = medication
[17:26] <Dagaka> the ScummVM in the repos is quite old now
[17:27] <HardDisk> but still runs all the games I tried
[17:27] <PurpZeY> Kasplatt: Serves me right for trying to be funny around here
[17:27] <gsevil> I did as the page said, but it has the problem I talk about above
[17:27] <psusi> gsevil: press e to edit the boot entry and tell me what the root line says
[17:27] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  there may be a service tool in the menus some where..  or check out  sysvconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring init script links
[17:27] <Kasplatt> PurpZeY: hehe
[17:27] <HardDisk> what games wouldn't run on it? that you need a new version?
[17:27] <RenatoSilva> pvl: yes, for swap files. Anyway swap partition do the same stuff
[17:27] <i00_000i> PurpZeY:i want to stop hal daemon for starting up...any idea
[17:27] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes and now ?
[17:27] <solorio> Kasplatt: then unzip it and hit the installer
[17:27] <PurpZeY> i00_000i: I don't know anything about that, I was kidding earlier.  don't even know what that does.
[17:28] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: PirateHead told me it will post some code to me
[17:28] <Dr_willis> stopping hal? thats like a very imporntant service I thought.
[17:28] <Kasplatt> solorio: the tar.gz right ?
[17:28] <rubax> Hiya peeps. I have a problem with my graphics card. Its a nvidia GeForce 420 go, when I enable the restricted drivers and restart my screen goes kaput
[17:28] <pvl> RenatoSilva, fiugred, thanks. but is that like a pay up for ram?
[17:28] <Dagaka> I just like to have the latest versions
[17:28] <RenatoSilva> pvl: pay up?
[17:28] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: PirateHead is coding something for you, it is a big favor, just chill out and wait
[17:28] <rubax> the driver xorg.conf lists is nvidia
[17:28] <regeya> whoo.
[17:28] <solorio> Kasplatt: yes, and there is the issue of the install directory
[17:29] <pvl> RenatoSilva, by that i mean, in its most basic, is swap the same as ram?
[17:29] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: hal means hardware abstraction layer..itz keeps polling ur hardware devices...4 changes
[17:29] <rubax> anyone knows what the right driver should be?
[17:29] <PurpZeY> pvl: Not quite
[17:29]  * regeya owes a huge debt of gratitude to someone on the forums; thanks to them, the headphone jack on my wife's lappy works
[17:29] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: you speak like I just want stuff done. I want to LEARN since it would be usefull in many situations :P
[17:29] <pvl> PurpZeY, oh
[17:30] <RenatoSilva> pvl: humm...
[17:30] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  yes. :) and that can be imporntant.. but if you want to edit the services that are loaded. you could install and run  ' sysvconfig '
[17:30] <garu> hi everyone
[17:30] <Kasplatt> solorio: hmm what install directory issues ? it doesn't install in the right path ?
[17:30] <sasha_> hi, can anyone paste me the default setting for th xorg.conf , i've a fonts issue, looking in my xorg.conf : http://rafb.net/p/YcSWqW65.html
[17:30] <garu> happy new year everyone
[17:30] <RenatoSilva> pvl: do u know what's virtual memory? I don't know if in English this is the term, but it is in ptBR
[17:30] <pvl> ty u2
[17:30] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: I understand and if PirateHead won't help you to look at the script and figure it out I will, but it is a pretty big favor for him to write it for you or get you moving in the right direction so just chill smile and thank profusely
[17:30] <sasha_> it do not have a fonts section :-/
[17:31] <PurpZeY> !font | sasha_
[17:31] <ubotu> sasha_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945 gsevil here is another reference link
[17:31] <pvl> RenatoSilva, not so much, should i just google all this?
[17:31] <solorio> Kasplatt: when it asks you where Mozilla is installed
[17:31] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: :-/
[17:31] <regeya> am I missing something?  I see RenatoSilva asking a bunch of questions, and unrelated to that I see several people telling RenatoSilva to chill out and that someone's doing a major favor for him...wtf
[17:31] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: in fedora v can start and stop services by runnung /sbin/services  any such alternatives in ubuntu??
[17:31] <PurpZeY> pvl: Your questions are rather basic, most likely google available.
[17:31] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Problem?
[17:32] <garu> can someone help me out here...what options have to be checked in the Software Sources in gutsy gibbon?thanks
[17:32] <solorio> Kasplatt: are trying now?
[17:32] <pvl> PurpZeY, kk ty
[17:32] <PurpZeY> garu: Shouldn't need anything special
[17:32] <c0nka> heya could someone help
[17:33] <Kasplatt> solorio: yes
[17:33] <i00_000i> Dr_willis: r u gud @using ubuntu
[17:33] <chazco> IS there anyway to find out the requirements of an executable file if they're not given?
[17:33] <PurpZeY> Ask | c0nka
[17:33] <PurpZeY> !Ask | c0nka
[17:33] <ubotu> c0nka: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:33] <solorio> Kasplatt: how is it going?
[17:33] <RenatoSilva> pvl: Yes, but for short: the system uses a disk space when RAM is busy. Linux call this space swap (partition or file), and on windows it's the c:\pagefile.sys (I guess). Search for swap on Wikipedia, I think it will provide more general links.
[17:33] <Kasplatt> solorio: it says /home/me/.mozilla
[17:33] <c0nka> how do i install a program on a different drive using the console
[17:33] <PurpZeY> c0nka: install using apt-get?
[17:33] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: no....just the way it sounds for me :)
[17:33] <garu> PurpZey what about the updates?because, in my laptop. everything works fine, the only problem is when I try to download anything, my wireless connexion goes down!
[17:33] <pvl> RenatoSilva, starting to make sense to me, thank you
[17:34] <solorio> Kasplatt: did it accept it?
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: haven't tried yet
[17:34] <PurpZeY> garu: should just be connecting to the Ubuntu repos...You can verify the addresses.
[17:34] <c0nka> purpzey: yes mate
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: "Installation Complete"
[17:34] <Kasplatt> solorio: going to test it now
[17:34] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: What is your criteria for deciding whether to run the line?
[17:34] <mavi-> c0nka: you dont install to drives in ubuntu/linux
[17:34] <solorio> Kasplatt: great! go back to the site and try interactive
[17:34] <c0nka> o right
[17:34] <PurpZeY> c0nka: It doesn't really.....yeah what mavi said
[17:35] <mavi-> c0nka: you install to pre-defined directories so you need to make sure you set those up with space enough
[17:35] <Kasplatt> solorio: works great , thanks.
[17:35] <Kasplatt> huh interactive ?
[17:35] <chazco> Ah... what would "Linux:  Any Linux for PCs with glibc 2.2.5 or higher, X Window system with any Window Manager" that translate to in a deb requirements line... glibc>=2.2.5 &...?
[17:35] <c0nka> purpzey: but i have different drives
[17:35] <solorio> Kasplatt: u are welcome
[17:35] <PurpZeY> c0nka: Don't we all? :D
[17:35] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  im good at reading docs and guides and googling for the info i need to learn. :)
[17:35] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: this is a separate issue. The script itself is not responsible about what will be done with the file or the lines added.
[17:35] <c0nka> purpzey: so how would you do it
[17:35] <Dr_willis> i00_000i,  but right now i gotta go shovel snow.. bbl
[17:35] <Arjun> pici they keep telling me Im trying to spam the pastebin
[17:36] <PurpZeY> c0nka: You generally will install to your filesystem
[17:36] <garu> PurpZey humn...oki doki!
[17:36] <c0nka> purpzey: but i need it on a differnet drive
[17:36] <PurpZeY> c0nka: I keep a ton of free-space on mine and rarely install anything besides porn, it's a non-issue
[17:36] <i00_000i> c0nka: no such concept in linux
[17:36] <i00_000i> everything comes ubder /
[17:36] <garu> anyone having problems with ralink wireless card?
[17:37] <PurpZeY> garu: I mean this most politely, check the forums
[17:37] <dv_^> i have one of those 4-direction mouse wheels, anyone know how to enable the left-right directions?
[17:37] <c0nka> purpzey: so theres no way i can do it
[17:37] <PurpZeY> dv_^: I mean this most politely, check the forums
[17:37] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: the script only must *ensure that the line is there*, with the observations I said before (before a specific content, not duplicated with commented lines)
[17:37] <dv_^> PurpZeY: heh okay
[17:37] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50519/ simply shows how to use a conditional statement.
[17:37] <zenobius> cOnka: out of curiosity, waht are you trying to do?
[17:37] <PurpZeY> zenobius: He wants to install packages elsewhere from his file system
[17:37] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: the script only must *ensure that the line is there*, with the observations I said before (before a specific content, not duplicated with commented lines)
[17:38] <zenobius> and?
[17:38] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Perhaps I don't understand fully what you're trying to do.
[17:38] <zenobius> wahts hard about that
[17:38] <gsevil> psusi : root (hd0,2) ; kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin ; quiet
[17:38] <c0nka> zenobius : i am using xammp to run my website and i need it on a different hardrive
[17:38] <Sonja> what does this mean and how do i fix it: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[17:38] <Sonja> when opening googlearth
[17:38] <regeya> garu: within the last two weeks I've dealt with three different wireless cards, and either I have horrible luck or the state of wireless cards in linux is deplorable
[17:38] <Arjun> Pici, you there
[17:38] <zenobius> oh wants /var/apt/cache to be on /dev/hdc3 or something?
[17:38] <Arjun> Pici, ??
[17:38] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: He wants this script to grep the other file, look for X, if it finds X, exit(0), if it doesn't find X has been run, run X, (he calls it uncommenting)
[17:38] <garu> PurpZeY I'v been doing this for ages.lol...but, thanks anywayz...maybe the developers will do something about it sometime in the future
[17:38] <Alan> What is the best tool for converting audio files?  I have a load of FLAC files i want in max quality MP3 VBR for use on a portable media player...
[17:39] <c0nka> zenobius : yeah
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: actually after readind it I'm sure about that :)
[17:39] <PurpZeY> Alan: FFMPEG is good for any encoding
[17:39] <zenobius> easy
[17:39] <PurpZeY> !best | Alan
[17:39] <ubotu> Alan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[17:39] <Alan> Also, what's best for managing an iPod shuffle
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: understand now, however?
[17:39] <PurpZeY> !ipod | Alan
[17:39] <ubotu> Alan: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[17:39] <regeya> Alan: http://code.google.com/p/flac2any/wiki/Manual <- an option
[17:39] <Sonja> PurpZeY don't be anal. "best" usually means "most popular" :)
[17:39] <Alan> heh, fair enough PurpZeY
[17:39] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: Kinda.
[17:39]  * Alan feels factoid-pwnt
[17:39] <PurpZeY> Sonja: Don't say anal. It gets me all riled up
[17:39] <zenobius> c0nka: your extra drive mounted under /media ?
[17:39] <RenatoSilva> PirateHead: Kinda?
[17:39] <regeya> y'know, the ubuntu crowd, like many distributions, is turning into a flock of jerks.
[17:40] <Sonja> mmm buttsecks
[17:40] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[17:40] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: You want to know how to make a piece of code do something, but you don't understand how or why. I tried to explain it to you, you don't want to listen....Deja vu
[17:40] <Myrtti> behave, kids
[17:40] <PirateHead> RenatoSilva: It all seems roundabout to me.
[17:40] <RenatoSilva> Let me ask it just one more time (please): Hi people. I want to add a content to /etc/rc.local before the line "exit 0" through a shell script. If the content already exists, then nothing must be done. If the content is commented with one or more "#", then it must be uncommented. What's the better way? Is there a simple way?
[17:40] <garu> regeya lol...I'v been struggling with wireless issues ever since feisty. Some people keep saying ubuntu just doesnt like ralink rt61pci wireless cards...the thing is...I can't really live without wireless...lol
[17:40] <PurpZeY> BAAH!!!!
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> PurpZeY: Huh????
[17:41] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: try the SED manual
[17:41] <gsevil> when boot into ubuntu, there's a problem: "error 17 cannot mount selected device". I press e and it write: "boot (hd0,2)" I did as the page in !grub said
[17:41] <Pici> RenatoSilva: Have you asked in #bash?
[17:41] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: TWO OF US TRIED TO HELP YOU. LISTEN FOR A CHANGE
[17:41] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: tut-tut
[17:41] <Pici> PurpZeY: Please dont.
[17:41] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: the command sed is waht you want to investigate
[17:41] <PirateHead> !shout | PurpZeY
[17:41] <Arjun> Pici,  hey
[17:41] <ubotu> PurpZeY: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:41] <PurpZeY> Ok, yes caps
[17:41] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: you understand my question! not they!!!!!
[17:42] <PurpZeY> Myrtti or Pici can you send me a msg please
[17:42] <garu> regeya and my connexion works fine, my wireless connexion, untill I start downloading something that takes more than 15 minutes to download
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> Pici: I'm gonna do it
[17:42] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: huh
[17:42] <Arjun> Pici, dude Ive got the report now but It wont let me paste it sais im trying to spam the pastebin
[17:42] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: take a look
[17:42] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: Just trying to explain my outburst, it's fine....forget it
[17:42] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: if you hunt for books about SEd you will pretty soon find lots of free pdfs and massiv txt files
[17:42] <Pici> Arjun: use http://pastebin.com/ then
[17:43] <Sonja> there are a million pastebin websites out there
[17:43] <Arjun> Pici,  thanx
[17:43] <Sonja> each project seems to have its own
[17:43] <sanchit> i am experiencing a problem in booting ubuntu from external hard disk . i can boot up from a boot cd but when  i try to do without it grub shows error 17 ? help me  guys
[17:43] <Arjun> Pici, http://pastebin.com/m449bb7b8
[17:44] <gsevil> I have the same problem with sanchit, error 17, in same hdd
[17:44] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: My head only bangs against the wall a certain amount of times. . .That's all....I'll shut up about it no
[17:44] <PurpZeY> w
[17:44] <Arjun> Pici, thats the url for my post
[17:44] <zenobius> c0nka: the best way to do waht you want (in a secure and clean way) is to partition or associate the mount point /var/www wit h a hd or partition at install time
[17:44] <Pici> Arjun: Whats the ip address for your router?
[17:44] <tribaldata> sanchit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[17:44] <i00_000i> sanchit: edit grub.conf file in /boot
[17:44] <Arjun> 10.0.0.2
[17:44] <zenobius> c0nka: or you could just symlink /var/www to say /media/your120gbHD/webroot
[17:45] <elder> i have an nvidia geforce fx5200
[17:45] <sanchit> gsevil : i solved the prob by making boot cd but i do not like inserting crapping cd everytime
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: And when you ping that it gets no reply?
[17:45] <Arjun> Pici, nope :(
[17:45] <PurpZeY> That doesn't sound like a router IP to me....I could be wrong....Sounds like the gateway
[17:45] <elder> will i have any problems if i just install it into this box with 7.10?
[17:45] <PurpZeY> Usually router IP starts with 192, not always.
[17:45] <PurpZeY> But usually
[17:45] <sanchit> i00_000i : what shud i change
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: Are you on a windows computer right now?
[17:45] <Pici> Arjun: On that same network?
[17:45] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: Router could definitly start with 10.x.x.x as your internal network adresses
[17:46] <Arjun> yeaI know but hellkom here in sa decided thats what we need to use for our adsl routers ;)
[17:46] <Arjun> yup
[17:46] <Arjun> yup
[17:46] <PurpZeY> tribaldata: I said usually......
[17:46] <Arjun> LOL Iknow ;) not to wory PurpZeY
[17:46] <sanchit> tribaldata : checking it
[17:46] <Pici> Arjun: Can you pastebin the output of `ipconfig /all`
[17:46] <Arjun> ok
[17:47] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: No harm done :)
[17:47] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: I have a script-like file I want to ensure to have certain line, but not just by echo > file. The line should be uncomemnted if exists, for example. I know that sed is the way, but I asked here because I thought it was a common issue and that would exist already an easy way to do it. In a outline I know what to do: Uncomment line if any, using replacement by  regular expressions. If not, replace "exit 0" by "myline \n exit 0". I guess this is
[17:47] <PurpZeY> Learn one thing in law school, preface everything with, generally speaking, or usually.
[17:47] <Arjun> MMMM how do you get the info outa the cmd window
[17:47] <Arjun> Pici, MMMM how do you get the info outa the cmd window
[17:47] <godzirra> Ok, I have a problem on my wireless on myl aptop in gutsy where after a while, the network just shuts down.  I can't get it back up, and a lot of abilities of the laptop don't work (such as opening a terminal window).  I checked lsmod, and the only difference I can see is that when I do an lsmod, ipw3945 (my card) is set to "0" so it isn't being used....  I'm using restricted drivers on an HP DV6500.
[17:47] <Pici> Arjun: All I'm really looking for is the part after "Subnet mask" and "default gateway"
[17:48] <tribaldata> PurpZeY: one of the best advice you could have remember :)
[17:48] <sn0> i00_000i so we can talk about ubuntu help in here :)
[17:48] <PurpZeY> godzirra: I am not trying to dismiss you, but often these problems are common, have you checked the forums
[17:48] <minus198> Hi.. Something weird has happened to my terminal (Gnome terminal in this case). I can no longer paste with middelklick, leftklick or click on it at all. Cause when I middleclick the only thing that happens is that this comes up: "!I/#I/" Other characters occur. And also, I cant mark anything. Cause there is no marker when I move over the chars with the mouse, its just a normal pointer. Does someone have a clue what the f*** this is?
[17:48] <Arjun> subnet == 255.255.255.0
[17:48] <Arjun> gW == 10.0.0.2
[17:48] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: i know sed can be complex, but it is possible to search for lines and return true or not with SED.
[17:48] <godzirra> PurpZeY: No problem.  I have and haven't found much of any answers.
[17:49] <PurpZeY> tribaldata: Come back later and say "I said generally speaking" or "I said X ten minutes ago" works either way
[17:49] <Pici> Arjun: Okay, can you also pastebin the output of `route` on your linux computer/
[17:49] <Arjun> Pici, subnet == 255.255.255.0........gW == 10.0.0.2
[17:49] <godzirra> PurpZeY: for mostp eople it seems to work, and for the people it doesn't work for, there doesnt seem to be a good solution.
[17:49] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: have you looked at the advanced bash scripting guid thats inthe repositories
[17:49] <Pici> PurpZeY, tribaldata: Please stop.
[17:49] <Arjun> ok
[17:49] <Arjun> is that a terminal command aswell
[17:49] <Pici> Arjun: It is indeed.
[17:49] <Arjun> Pici, is that a terminal command aswell
[17:49] <Arjun> cool
[17:49] <PurpZeY> godzirra: That would be the limit as to what I would know, I'd just read forums or google on it, Is there are particular error your are getting?
[17:49] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: I'm gonna search about it
[17:49] <svb_> exit
[17:50] <godzirra> PurpZeY: nope.
[17:50] <godzirra> PurpZeY: network just stops and I have to hard reboot the machine.
[17:50] <zenobius> PurpZeY: wahts the purpose of windows automatically putting the subnet mask to 255.0.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.0 when you put a 10.x.x.x type ip address inyour settings(in indows this is)
[17:50] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:50] <PurpZeY> godzirra: once it fails what does iwconfig return?
[17:50] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: see if i can find the sources im thinking of
[17:50] <krim> Sometimes when I'm looking through several folders of flac files and opening some something happens to Nautilus and I can't open files anymore. I double click but nothing happens, so i have to kill Nautilus and then it works again. Anyone else experienced this?
[17:51] <dcnstrct> I tried installing gusty desktop.  When I put the cd in and reboot I get the ubuntu menu.  I tell it to do the install, then it drops me into BusyBox for some reason.  Where should I begin ?
[17:51] <simion314> hi,  i am using a proxy, tried to set th http_proxy variable  and tryed to set the proxy from system->preferences->network proxy but that is good for nothing i still have to configure all application manualy and the gnome xchat can;t be configured
[17:51] <tribaldata> pici : we get your point.....
[17:51] <minus198> It solved itself out.. A reboot of Gnome Terminal did the trick.
[17:51] <godzirra> PurpZeY: that I don't ahve an ip address.  But I can't get much to run.  Its very odd.  I can't open up a new terminal window, for instance.
[17:51] <Pici> !boot > i00_000i (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:51] <PurpZeY> godzirra: That is problem thatgoes beyond your wifi card
[17:51] <Dr_Evil> zenobius a 10.0.0.0-10.255.255.255 is a class-A net, and thus has traditionally had that netmask by default
[17:51] <Pici> tribaldata: I dont think people do.
[17:52] <godzirra> PurpZeY: Possibly.  but the wifi is the only symptom I can find.
[17:52] <PurpZeY> godzirra: You can't open a terminal
[17:52] <Arjun> Pici, http://pastebin.com/m2c7114b7
[17:53] <simion314> my windows do not have a title bar is this a bug in compiz?
[17:53] <PurpZeY> godzirra: Sounds like something else in gnome is going awry, causing the network issues...If you can't open a terminal that is a problem
[17:53] <PurpZeY> simion314: Try right clicking on CCSM and hitting "restart windows manager" otherwise you deleted your panel and need to re-add it
[17:53] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: but doesnt a 255.0.0.0 mask allow broadcast traffice to go outside my 10.1.1.1 router to say 10.1.41.2?
[17:53] <godzirra> PurpZeY: possibly, but the only thing I can see is the difference in my lsmod
[17:53] <Sonja> what malware removal tool should i get for ubuntu?
[17:53] <godzirra> PurpZeY: which shows that ipw3945 is set to 0, i.e. not being used.
[17:54] <PurpZeY> godzirra: How can you do lsmod when you can't open at terminal?
[17:54] <Pici> Arjun: Okay, hold on a minute.
[17:54] <RenatoSilva> May I turn /var/cache/apt/archives into a soft link to a directory on a NTFS partition???
[17:54] <PriceChild> Sonja, is it needed?
[17:54] <Daviey> Sonja: what malware?
[17:54] <Arjun> Pici, cool ;)
[17:54] <Sonja> i though there were maliciosu cookies to be had and such
[17:54]  * PurpZeY thought no malware and virii 
[17:54] <Dr_Evil> zenobius well I can't answer that, sorry
[17:54] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, the last person who messed in apt's domain died iirc
[17:54] <Sonja> ubuntu can't get viruses?
[17:54] <PriceChild> Sonja, "no"
[17:54] <godzirra> PurpZeY: I already have one opened.
[17:54] <Sonja> that's convenient
[17:54] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: from little jnettop test ive run it seems to be the case
[17:54] <godzirra> PurpZeY: it works fine if its already opened..  just can't open a new one.
[17:54] <Sonja> a nice change from winxp
[17:54] <wigliam> pricechild:"no"?
[17:54] <PriceChild> !virus | Sonja
[17:55] <ubotu> Sonja: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[17:55] <zenobius> PriceChild: but ive done it
[17:55] <PurpZeY> godzirra: To me, from my standpoint if you can't open a new one, something is wrong, maybe compiz is failing, have you tried just reloading compiz?
[17:55] <godzirra> PurpZeY: i've tried hitting ctrl-alt-backspace to restart all of X and it doesn't.
[17:55] <zenobius> PriceChild: the var/apt/cache thing....had to do it when setting up apt-mirror
[17:55] <PriceChild> wigliam, there are none in the wild. however it is of course possible
[17:55] <Dr_Evil> zenobius well 255.0.0.0 masks all 10.*.*.* so if you need something narrow, then you need to specify another netmask
[17:55] <PriceChild> wigliam, nobody seems to bother though
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> PriceChild: ?????
[17:56] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: it is possible, but things may have changed since i did that thing
[17:56] <dcnstrct> this is the error I'm seeing when I try to install ubuntu (I get the busybox).  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393237  any ideas what I can try ?  I get the exact same error messages
[17:56] <PurpZeY> godzirra: Huh.....That is weird...I mean, if it was just your wifi card OK...but you can't open a terminal.....that's odd
[17:56] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: a long time ago?
[17:56] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, yeah i'm sure you can do it... i would just warn against messing around with apt. You will break it if you don't know what you're doing.
[17:56] <zenobius> PriceChild: yeah was in breezy
[17:56] <cdavis> Can anyone tell me how to import a csv file with pgadmin3? I can't find anything and thought someone had said there was a druid to do so?
[17:57] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, permissions stand out to me as being something missing that could be useful
[17:57] <PriceChild> ownership etc.
[17:57] <runemaste644> How do i rename an application in the gmenu and change the icon?
[17:57] <dwidge> I am using xandr for an extended virtual desktop. I have a laptop screen (LVDS, 1280x800) and a CRT (VGA-0, 1024x768). It works when I dynamically set xandr from the terminal. However, using the permanent xorg.conf way, the LVDS always starts in 1024x768. How to fix? I will post my xorg.conf if requested..
[17:57] <PurpZeY> runemaste644: right click on it
[17:57] <PriceChild> runemaste644, right click it and choose "edit menu"
[17:57] <Arjun> I hereby wanna apologise to the whole of the ubutu channel for shouting at u all just now ;)
[17:57] <RenatoSilva> PriceChild: if I link the cache properly to a NTFS folder then I will not have any problems, don't?
[17:57] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: i thought a 0 meant that broadcast traffic isnt prevented from reaching hosts on that portion
[17:57] <wigliam> another interesting thing: do we need to defrag on linux(ubuntu)?
[17:57] <PurpZeY> Arjun: No worries, from my end
[17:57] <PriceChild> RenatoSilva, I haven't tried it myself so not sure.
[17:57] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: and a 255 meant dont broadcast in these bits
[17:57] <PriceChild> !defrag | wigliam
[17:57] <ubotu> wigliam: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[17:57] <Arjun> PurpZeY, thanx dude
[17:58] <RenatoSilva> PriceChild: I'm afraid :(
[17:58] <runemaste644> no that doesnt work
[17:58] <runemaste644> im using feisty btw
[17:58] <dn4> I have a built in soundcard on my mobo
[17:58] <Dr_Evil> zenobius I think you are misunderstanding it. the netmask is used to compare addresses, to see if they belong into the same subnet.
[17:58] <dn4> how do I get it so that my pci sound card is used instead of the other built in one?
[17:58] <Sonja> is there a quick way to get all the latest drivers for my radeon video card?
[17:58] <RenatoSilva> May I turn /var/cache/apt/archives into a soft link to a directory on a NTFS partition???
[17:59] <PurpZeY> RenatoSilva: Messing with apts is risky business
[17:59] <godzirra> PurpZeY: I tihnk the same thing happens if I've got plugged in network and I just unplug it.
[17:59] <godzirra> PurpZeY: something about DNS someone said.
[17:59]  * godzirra shrugs.
[17:59] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: i wouldnt now, 2 reasons. 1 apt may have changed since i last did it, 2 ntfs is just plain dodgey
[17:59] <runemaste644> i thought changing stuff in /usr/share/applications would work
[17:59] <runemaste644> but i havent tried it yet
[17:59] <Dr_Evil> zenobius example 10.1.1.1 & 255.0.0.0 = 10.0.0.0 , other 10.3.6.8 & 255.0.0.0 = 10.0.0.0 so they are in the same subnet
[17:59] <PurpZeY> godzirra: I totally follow that....but why is that preventing you from opening a terminal is my question
[17:59] <flamsmark> hey, i think i selected the wrong graphics driver for my laptop after doing an update. i've booted into a live session on the install cd, and i'd like to set my system to the right driver or maybe a safe driver mode so that i can fix it. how do i do that?
[17:59] <godzirra> no idea
[18:00] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: You can do dpkg reconfig
[18:00] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: but if you put a 255.255.0.0 mask?
[18:00] <Dr_Evil> zenobius if subnet mask were 255.255.255.0 the result would be 10.1.1.0 != 10.3.6.0
[18:00] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: But that will reconfigure your whole X system
[18:00] <zenobius> Dr_Evil: meaning no way traffic could reach them?
[18:00] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: 1. in which way? not using that location for example? 2. dodgey?
[18:00] <PurpZeY> godzirra: Have you tried setting it up static?
[18:00] <flamsmark> purpzey what settings would i loose?
[18:00] <flamsmark> purpzey and in the live session?
[18:00] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: I believe any X settings.
[18:01] <wigliam> actually i have a ati radeon 9000 (integrated)...no way to install any driver, but works perfectly with the default mesa driver
[18:01] <sentano> anyone knows a decent guide to multi booting 3 or more OS..?
[18:01] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: if your not on a "mission critical machine" and are willing to loose your data....then go for it
[18:01] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: Confirm that with someone else, but I believe dpkg reconfig xorg will basically default X back and run you through X xetup
[18:01] <PurpZeY> setp*
[18:01] <godzirra> PurpZeY: no. not yet.  I dont see why that would matter though?
[18:01] <seanh> I'm reading the rsync mailing list, it looks like if rsync's checksum fails on a file, then rsync will try to copy that file again after it's finished with all the other files. But can someone confirm this for me please?
[18:01] <unravel> sentano: why do you need a guide? you know anything about dualbooting? 3+ isnt hard.
[18:02] <flamsmark> purpzey, would that include my compiz settings, themes, anything like that; or would it be more along the lines of resolution and so on?
[18:02] <PurpZeY> godzirra: If you are losing DNS and you set DNS....it's just a stab...a thought
[18:02] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: :-/
[18:02] <rake> To mount a reiserfs hard drive that has files I want to share over the network     do I do mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdb1 /samba/share/here
[18:02] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: I believe the latter...Like I said verify that.
[18:02] <Dr_Evil> zenobius I'm not that good with routing, perhaps you should have a look at a tutorial, for example http://www.sangoma.com/main/support/tutorials/tcpip
[18:02] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: Both.....
[18:02] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: otherwise , start by looking into "how to provide a local apt-cache archive for your local-network" in order to not "clobber your monthly bandwidth quatoa"
[18:02] <runemaste644> How do i rename an application in the gmenu and change the icon in feisty?
[18:02] <JimmyDee> has anyone here managed to get eve-online to work with gutsy?
[18:02] <PurpZeY> godzirra: That problems is sort of stumping me so I am just stabbing at it
[18:02] <cornixx> !pastebin
[18:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:03] <flamsmark> purpzey, oh well, i'll just have to reconfig that then. can i do it from the live session?
[18:03] <runemaste644> do i go to /usr/share/applications?
[18:03] <pmratpoison> hello! how do I share a folder on an NTFS partition over smb ?
[18:03] <zenobius> pmratpoison: have you tried yet?
[18:03] <pmratpoison> I have
[18:03] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: I believe so....again, this is not something I'm 100% on...So what you want to do is just ask in the channel (hopefully someone sees this) and ask what the proper way to do a dpkg-reconfig xorg is, and what settings you'll lose
[18:03] <zenobius> waht distro are you using? how did you try?
[18:03] <pmratpoison> the folder is owned by root and I can't mount it
[18:04] <dwidge> I want to avoid running an extra startup script.
[18:04] <flamsmark> purpzey, thanks
[18:04] <wirser> on GutsyGibbon what takes the place of /etc/modprob.conf or /etc/modules.conf?
[18:04] <eoopy> hey people, i've been trying to install ubuntu for the fifth time now from a live CD on my DESKTOP. whenever i finish and reboot it doesn't load X but goes to a console mode where i can do nothing actually. any reason or solution?
[18:04] <PurpZeY> flamsmark: I feel fairly confident about both of those things, but I would just make sure.
[18:04] <zenobius> PurpZeY: the way to do that is actually in the file : /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:04] <HardDisk> pmratpoison, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266073
[18:04] <wigliam> are you guys using chatzilla?
[18:04] <PurpZeY> zenobius: manually?
[18:04] <Kasplatt> does any of you know where to get the vista-like menubar for gnome ? not the clone , but one that pretty much acts like vista's
[18:05] <HardDisk> ubuntuforums is an excellent source for finding answers.
[18:05] <flamsmark> what's the right way to dpkg-reconfig xorg (can i reconfig my system from a live cd session?) and what settings would i loose by doing so?
[18:05] <pvl> where can i get a menu bar like OSX?
[18:05] <rake> eoopy, what do you mean you cant do anything on the console?
[18:05] <simion314> what is COSM?
[18:05] <Sonja> how do i dowmnload a brand new xorg.conf ? my file is missing!!
[18:05] <HardDisk> pvl, avant window navigator
[18:05] <fdsfezreer> hi
[18:05] <zenobius> PurpZeY: aye, and i just went to cat out mine, but realised i have one without that text
[18:05] <pvl> HardDisk, thanks
[18:05] <unravel> Sonja: dont download one, create one. open a term and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:05] <HardDisk> Sonja, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:05] <wigliam> pvl avant window navigator
[18:05] <sCOTTo> hey guys
[18:05] <PurpZeY> zenobius: why not dpkg-reconfigure ?
[18:05] <Kasplatt> eoopy: you can't login or type anything in the console ?
[18:06] <zenobius> pmratpoison: how is the drive mounted ? can you please pastebin me the file /etc/mtab ?
[18:06] <Sonja> thanks peoplez
[18:06] <sCOTTo> does anyone know of a good util for connecting to a wireless network using wpk-psk ? I am running fluxbuntu
[18:06] <PurpZeY> zenobius: As suggested above.
[18:06] <eoopy> i can use few commands but nothing helps
[18:06] <pmratpoison> zenobius: just a sec
[18:06] <zenobius> PurpZeY: yeah thats the command but its missin params
[18:06] <eoopy> and cant login root or a thing
[18:06] <PurpZeY> zenobius: Oh yeah, I was just doing that for ease of typing
[18:06] <HardDisk> pmratpoison, read the link I posted.
[18:06] <Kasplatt> eoopy: you can't even log in as root ? ,
[18:07] <rake> eoopy, 'su' ?
[18:07] <pmratpoison> zenobius: http://pastebin.com/m4f57b3ca
[18:07] <PurpZeY> zenobius: also, I wanted to make sure mine was so far from accurate that he wouldn't go and use it, b/c i wasn't sure the exact syntax
[18:07] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sedfaq.html
[18:07] <eoopy> tried everything, nothing would work
[18:07] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: http://www.shelldorado.com/links/index.html#tutorials
[18:07] <Kasplatt> eoopy: weird . all of my installs have been successful ..
[18:07] <eoopy> and when i start ubuntu it takes like ten mins to load. even to console mode
[18:07] <pmratpoison> HardDisk: does this mean I have to change my fstab so that the umask on my NTFS partitions is 0222 ?
[18:08] <pc> Chinese people?
[18:08] <wigliam> bye guys
[18:08] <PurpZeY> !ch
[18:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:08] <Kasplatt> eoopy: can you login as the user you made in the installation process ?
[18:08] <Cromag> !chinese
[18:08] <HardDisk> pmratpoison, yes, basically to give access.
[18:08] <runemaste644> How can i alter menu entries? Ive looked and it is NOT in the menu editor
[18:08] <HardDisk> pmratpoison, or 000 for all users.
[18:08] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[18:08] <eoopy> Kasplatt, cant use login or su commands
[18:08] <pmratpoison> HardDisk: thnx! :)
[18:08] <PurpZeY> Figures. . .
[18:08] <HardDisk> pmratpoison, this is a good read too, ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[18:08] <sCOTTo> does anyone know of a good util for connecting to a wireless network using wpk-psk ? I am running fluxbuntu
[18:09] <zenobius> pmratpoison: yep looks like the page you want
[18:09] <pmratpoison> ok, thnx guys for the immediate assistance! :)
[18:09] <rexy> sCOTTo: i just use nm-applet but there are some other tools, like wifiradar or something
[18:09] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: I have NO idea what wpk-psk is but wifiradar probably
[18:09] <HardDisk> sCOTTo, nm-applet should be all you need
[18:09] <bobbob1016> I'm getting random crashes, is there anywhere I can look for a log?  My PC just freezes, I can still move the mouse.  Not when I'm doing one specific thing or another.
[18:09] <rexy> probably means wpa-psk
[18:09] <HardDisk> he does.
[18:09] <Kasplatt> eoopy: maybe the burn failed or something ?
[18:09] <PurpZeY> rexy: That'd make sense
[18:10] <eoopy> should i try to download the file again and try to reinstall? but didn't help before..
[18:10] <HardDisk> bobbob1016, /var/log
[18:10] <PurpZeY> bobbob1016: xorg error log
[18:10] <eoopy> checked it three times actually and was all good
[18:10] <rexy> PurpZeY: i strive too ;)
[18:10] <rexy> *to
[18:10] <PurpZeY> rexy: I strive and often falter
[18:10] <rexy> only way to learn
[18:10] <dwidge> Anyone here who knows xandr and xorg.conf?
[18:10] <PurpZeY> rexy: Exactly.
[18:10] <rexy> bobbob1016: what video driver
[18:11]  * sCOTTo says - can you suggest where i get wifiradar - im new to this linux stuff
[18:11] <PurpZeY> dwidge: Just ask your question
[18:11] <PurpZeY> !wifiradar
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifiradar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:11] <rexy> bobbob1016: are you running compiz? does it freeze in recovery mode?
[18:11] <bobbob1016> rexy, The open ATI driver
[18:11] <Kasplatt> eoopy: have you tried booting it up in recovery mode ?
[18:11] <chris_d> I've just done a new install of Gutsy. When I run Firefox and browse to a page that requires Flash, I got the Flash installation dialogs and followed them through. Flash is still not working, though...
[18:11] <IR8092> http://conlospiesenlacalle.blogspot.com/
[18:11] <sCOTTo> !nm-applet
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:11] <chris_d> Any idea how I can manually install?
[18:11] <rexy> bobbob1016: what videocard (lspci output) and are you using the ati or radeon
[18:11] <zenobius> oh guys, raedon 9660 does bigdesktop *with* compiz....on both screens no lag.
[18:11] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: nm-applet is built into GNOME
[18:11] <zenobius> i was knocked off my chair
[18:11] <sCOTTo> im using flux.
[18:11] <nox-Hand> nm-applet ftw :)
[18:11] <dwidge> "I am using xandr for an extended virtual desktop. I have a laptop screen (LVDS, 1280x800) and a CRT (VGA-0, 1024x768). It works when I dynamically set xandr from the terminal. However, using the permanent xorg.conf way, the LVDS always starts in 1024x768. How to fix? I will post my xorg.conf if requested.."
[18:11] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY,
[18:11] <newbie> hello, which firewall is the best for ubuntu?
[18:11] <eoopy> Kasplatt, when i do that it gets stuck in some level then nothing happens.. and i actually have a super machine over here
[18:12] <rexy> zenobius: i'd hope so, even my M6 mobile does compiz :)
[18:12] <bobbob1016> rexy, I am running compiz, it freezes at random times, not sure if recovery mode would help
[18:12] <eoopy> no idea whats up with this installation
[18:12] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: and wifi-radar is in the repos
[18:12] <zenobius> newbie: umm you actually mean whci is the best interface to netFilter portion of thelinux kernel?
[18:12] <newbie> yeah
[18:12] <rexy> bobbob1016: i suspect the video driver or compiz of the cause, running in recovery gives no X, alternatively you can just shutdown gdm and see if it stays stable
[18:12] <PurpZeY> bobbob1016: Have you tried just right clicking ccsm and hitting reload windows manager
[18:12] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, thats another language to me... can you give me a url to get it? and any other dependant files also
[18:12] <Arjun> Pici, still there dude
[18:13] <zenobius> rexy, yeah heres me with xinerama thinking this was all it could do
[18:13] <nownott> zenobius: you acutally mean which right?
[18:13] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: nm-applet should be installed automatically
[18:13] <zenobius> yup
[18:13] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: As per wifi-radar, sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[18:13] <dcnstrct> when you're installing ubuntu from the live-cd and you are taken to the (initramfs) prompt... how can you check to see what error got you there ?
[18:13] <evgeni> anybody have any good websites to check out for sample websites for LAMP?
[18:13] <sCOTTo> it isnt
[18:13] <zenobius> newbie: for me firestarter is plenty
[18:13] <Kasplatt> eoopy: then I don't know what could be wrong :s , sorry but I don't think I can help you .
[18:13] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Hit alt-f2
[18:13] <sCOTTo> i cant - i got no internet
[18:13] <newbie> zenobius: all right, I'll check it out. Thanks
[18:13] <bobbob1016> rexy, PurpZeY I have no access to anything, so I can't shutdown gdm, or reload the window manager.
[18:14] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Type nm-applet
[18:14] <rexy> bobbob1016: it is hanging right now?
[18:14] <DanB_> new to this can someone help with installing from zip file
[18:14] <sCOTTo> yeah it ckeared my desktop
[18:14] <PurpZeY> bobbob1016: Stick with rexy, I was just tossing in a thought
[18:14]  * NetM brb
[18:14] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: there is an "ed"
[18:14] <zenobius> newbie: you will need multiverse repositories turned on i think....then you want to do "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[18:14] <bobbob1016> rexy, I have the radeon driver.  It works usually, it just freezes at random times, I am on it now.
[18:14] <evgeni> anybody have any good websites to check out for sample websites for LAMP?
[18:14] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: funny....is it like a lite version of sed?
[18:15] <eoopy> Kasplatt, thanks alot dude.. hopefully ill make it run sometime..
[18:15] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: alt + f2 is supposed to bring up a window so you can run gnome programs...if that doesn't work, open a terminal and type nm-applet
[18:15] <rexy> bobbob1016: try the ati driver instead for awhile, you can set it to ati and radeon and afaik they are practically the same, but i had stability issue's with the radeon . Just to make sure i'm not talking about the binary ati drivers
[18:15] <zenobius> newbie: it even lets you do "internet connection sharing" like in windows
[18:15] <Kasplatt> eoopy: yea, good luck with it .
[18:15] <DanB_> Need help installing a program from a zip file
[18:15] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, there are no gnome installs in this dist.
[18:16] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: If you have no internet access, you can't install either package. . . .
[18:16] <bobbob1016> rexy, Where would I get the old ATI driver then?  I tried the new one and had some issues.
[18:16] <doodoo> Hello
[18:16] <sCOTTo> i have cdroms to transferr data
[18:16] <newbie> zenobius: I already installed firestarter and also guarddog, but I'll be using firestarter. It look easier to use. Thanks for your advise
[18:16] <bobbob1016> rexy, I'm running an ATI x600 on PCI-express
[18:16] <sCOTTo> i need the deb packages
[18:16] <Lazure> so one day my nvidia drivers broke and stopped working
[18:16] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Otherwise, you can burn the ISO and get nm-applet off of it
[18:16] <doodoo> Someone knwow Postfix?
[18:16] <Lazure> i had to switch to NV to even get back into x
[18:16] <rexy> bobbob1016: you have three options, the ati driver, the radeon driver and the binary glfrx something, if you are currently using the open-source radeon driver try the ati and see if it's more stable
[18:16] <Lazure> how do i try once again to install nvidia drivers and make it work again?
[18:16] <rexy> bobbob1016: alternatively you could try running metacity instead of compiz as a wm
[18:17] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: So, burn the ISO, and select the CD as your software source from synaptic
[18:17] <sanchit> can ubuntu run ntfs formatted usb external hard disk guys
[18:17] <rexy> !nvidia |rexy
[18:17] <sea1> how do i use the cube desktop?
[18:17] <PurpZeY> sanchit: I don't *think* so
[18:17] <sea1> how do i enable it rather
[18:17] <sCOTTo> just need the files - any ideas?
[18:17] <zenobius> seal: waht have you tried?
[18:17] <bobbob1016> rexy, You mean change radeon to ati in my xorg.conf?
[18:17] <DanB_> what program do i use to install a program from a zip file
[18:18] <rexy> bobbob1016: yes
[18:18] <zenobius> Danb : are you in gnome?
[18:18] <rexy> bobbob1016: think you can do it with dpkg-reconfigure too, but not sure how
[18:18] <DanB_> Im new to this so i dont know
[18:18] <zenobius> DanB_: tried right clicking on the actual zip file ?
[18:18] <bobbob1016> rexy, Oh, ok, I didn't know there was a difference between the two, between ati and the binary
[18:18] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, i just want the files.... i
[18:19] <zenobius> Danb_ its gnome if the tooltips for icons on your bar dont fade in horizontally
[18:19] <DanB_> ok then what
[18:19] <rexy> bobbob1016: well there's the three, the two opensource drivers called ati/radeon and the binary one called glfrx i think
[18:19] <dn4> for some reason my drivers will not work properly now and they were just working fiine, the video drivers;
[18:19] <zenobius> DanB_: its gnome if your applications, places ,system menus are at the top left
[18:19] <dn4> any ideas on how to repair my drivers?
[18:19] <sanchit> purpzey : well i hav 2 partition in my 80 gb external hard disk one 12 gb for ubuntu second swap 1 gb rest i want to utiliZE data both from windows and ubuntu sp what shud i format it in
[18:20] <DanB_> yes thats where they are
[18:20] <zenobius> DanB_: and so usually you can just right click and "extract here..."
[18:20] <wirser> is "module-assistant" in a unique package ? ubotu says in section about modules to run it but I get a "sudo: module-assistant: command not found" error
[18:20] <zenobius> DanB_: also, you will want some extra progs to deal with other archive types
[18:20] <bobbob1016> rexy, OH, ok.  I didn't know that, I will try it in a minute.  Thanks for your help.
[18:20] <DanB_> like what programs and where do i get them
[18:21] <zenobius> DanB_: ok ready for some steps? press alt+f2, then type gnome-terminal
[18:21] <rexy> you need to install unzip/unrar from the special repository's i think
[18:21] <zenobius> DanB_: or goto the system menu
[18:21] <flamsmark> hey, how can i change my local installation to boot up in safe graphics mode from the live cd?
[18:21] <DanB_> so i extracted to the desktop now what do i do
[18:21] <Sonja> how do i instal the best drivers and everything for my ati radeon video card?
[18:21] <rexy> or not, guess that works then
[18:21] <zenobius> DanB_: from the sytem menu goto admin -> synaptics ...
[18:21] <cdavis> What program can I use to import a csv file into postgresql and allow me to map the columns I want to populate?
[18:22] <tifine> can anybody tell me how to unmount the iso file ?
[18:22] <Sonja> !ati
[18:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:22] <HardDisk> flamsmark, choose the second option.
[18:22] <PurpZeY> !umount
[18:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:22] <flamsmark> single user mode?
[18:22] <zenobius> DanB_: in synaptics search for rar 7zip lzh
[18:22] <DanB_> ok im there ..now what
[18:22] <HardDisk> !mount | PurpZeY
[18:22] <ubotu> PurpZeY: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:22] <HardDisk> :)
[18:22] <flamsmark> harddisk single user mode from the bootloader?
[18:22] <zenobius> DanBnot sure if lzh is there
[18:22] <zenobius> woops
[18:22] <PurpZeY> HardDisk: I was just looking to give someone proper unmount syntax. . .
[18:22] <NET||abuse> I wish i could have more resolution on my laptop,, it's awful... intel 915 GMS chipset, only capable of 1024x768,, awful..
[18:23] <HardDisk> PurpZeY, I know
[18:23] <zenobius> DanB_: first you may have to enable extra software repositories
[18:23] <rexy> NET||abuse: it can probably do more, but your laptop hasnt got a bigger screen, my M6 LY with 16m shared mem does dual screen with 1280x1024 just fine
[18:23] <zenobius> DanB_: so for that go to : (opens own synaptics) settings menu -> repositories
[18:24] <Timon_Crazy> Timon_Crazy's Uptime: 00:24:47 up 38 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.54, 0.48, 0.48
[18:24] <flamsmark> harddisk are you refering to the bootloader on my local disk or the options on the love cd menu?
[18:24] <DanB_> your going to fast..this is my first time useing this
[18:24] <pvl> NET||abuse, u need to edit ur xorg config and restart it. theres a lot in the forums
[18:24] <zenobius> DanB_: makes sure the first four options are ticked....main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[18:25] <HardDisk> flamsmark, I have no clue what you're saying...but the second option will get you to terminal mode, in which you can startx if you want, but I don't know what you want exactly.
[18:25] <HardDisk> if you want to load vesa, then it's a matter of modifying your xorg.conf
[18:25] <Ashfire908> how do i find stuff like the last modified time/date for a file/folder?
[18:26] <jengle> hi everyone
[18:26] <jengle> what is the most popular audio player on ubuntu?
[18:26] <zenobius> DanB_: repositories are segregated like that i think due to something like how well they are prepared for the ubunt desktop
[18:26] <HardDisk> jengle, there are many popular ones.
[18:26] <flamsmark> harddisk i selected the wrong graphics driver after installing some updates, and now my x starts all fubar. i want to fix it.
[18:26] <rexy> jengle: mpg123,mplayer,xmms,amarok,totem,rythmbox etc, take your pick
[18:26] <DanB_> im lost
[18:26] <odalix> hello everybody, I need some help to re-configure my wifi connection with a rt2500 chipset under Gutsy? Does anyone can help me ?
[18:26] <zenobius> DanB_: once you got those four checked. close the settings and click the reresh button
[18:27] <HardDisk> flamsmark, oh, so go into recovery mode, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:27] <rexy> odalix: did you read the howto on wireless?
[18:27] <Ashfire908> you could ask in #ubuntu-bots (see the topic in there), but Amarock for kubuntu and exaile for ubuntu seems to be the best picks
[18:27] <DanB_> i have the synaptic package manager open
[18:27] <flamsmark> harddisk, what settings does that reset?
[18:27] <HardDisk> flamsmark, that does the videocard driver.
[18:27] <zenobius> DanB_: not got the repository settings? its in the menus up top
[18:27] <odalix> rexy: yes, but the french one which is not updated for Gutsy. Does the english one is ?
[18:28] <flamsmark> harddisk, thanks; i'll try that
[18:28] <zenobius> DanB_: Settings -> Repositories
[18:28] <rexy> odalix: i'd assume so
[18:28] <nownott> what channel do i go to to get a vhost for freenode?
[18:28] <DanB_> ok those 4 are checked
[18:28] <Kasplatt> I love my new ubuntu :)
[18:28] <HardDisk> nownott, #freenode
[18:28] <rexy> think you need to register nownott  and then you can msg some bot about it
[18:28] <zenobius> DanB_: or if your using the altest version of ubuntu known as gutsy....then that option may be called software sources
[18:28] <odalix> rexy: you're right, I'll have a look right now
[18:28] <zenobius> DanB_: *latest
[18:29] <DanB_> 7.04
[18:29] <Dagaka> How do I install Flash... I tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but it came back with a md5sum mismatch and failed to install?
[18:29] <HardDisk> zenobius, or you can gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:29] <pike_> !flashissue | Dagaka
[18:29] <ubotu> Dagaka: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:29] <zenobius> Dagaka: read message of the day above
[18:29] <Ashfire908> Dagaka: see topic
[18:29] <HardDisk> Dagaka, read the topic
[18:29] <stefano_> Dagaka, Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash »
[18:29] <Dagaka> thanks
[18:29] <Dr_willis> message of the month it seems like.. :)
[18:29] <iclebyte_> Dagaka, /msg ubotu flash
[18:30] <Dagaka> I'll wait for the fix ;)
[18:30] <evgeni> WHERE CAN I FIND SAMPLE WEBSITES FOR PHP (apache)?
[18:30] <Ashfire908> how do i find things like the last modified time/date for a file/folder in a command line?
[18:30] <zenobius> DanB_: you use the terminal?
[18:30] <pike_> Dagaka: it is very easy to install manually just grab from adobe and then gksu nautilus and drop the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ or somesuch not sure of path you may want to check it
[18:30] <iclebyte_> evgeni, examples?
[18:30] <zenobius> DanB_: its quicker that way
[18:30] <evgeni> yes
[18:30] <Myrtti> !caps | evgeni
[18:30] <ubotu> evgeni: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[18:30] <rexy> evgeni: php.net? google?
[18:30] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  ls -l  filename
[18:30] <DanB_> dont know how that works
[18:30] <evgeni> thanks for those
[18:30] <evgeni> i tried both
[18:30] <iclebyte_> evgeni, what are you trying to do?
[18:31] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis: what about for stuff like creation time etc?
[18:31] <zenobius> DanB_: kay continue with teh Settings -> Repository menu option
[18:31] <zenobius> and tick those four options in the first tab
[18:31] <evgeni> iclebyte: photo gallery, page about myself, user/password support
[18:31] <Aztec007> Greetings everyone, just a quick question: I want to repartition my 250gb hd into two partitions, but this is the one that I'm currently working off of, theoretically, could I just back up "/" store it on an external drive and then just copy it over again to the new partition?
[18:31] <DanB_> ok done
[18:31] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  never noticed, or needed those. check the man pages for ls perhaps it has options
[18:31] <zenobius> evgeni: sudo apt-get isntall drupal
[18:32] <Ashfire908> Dr_willis: so basicly use ls?
[18:32] <DanB_> now what
[18:32] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  whats the date for the files that ls -l is showing then?
[18:32] <tribaldata> evgeni: gallery is pretty nice too apt-get install gallery
[18:32] <iclebyte_> evgeni, or go here: http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/index.html
[18:32] <zenobius> DanB_: okies, now go backl to main synaptic screen, and click the refesh button
[18:32] <Dr_willis> Ashfire908,  -rw-r--r-- 1 willis willis 0 2008-01-02 13:32 testfile
[18:32] <HardDisk> Aztec007, yes, you're better off using sbackup
[18:32] <Dr_willis> thats showing the date the fole was made here. :)
[18:32] <evgeni> thank you zenobius, thank you tribaldata, thank you iclebyte!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:32] <iclebyte_> but drupal and gallery are good suggestions =)
[18:32] <HardDisk> Aztec007, or dd_rescue
[18:32] <zenobius> DanB_: then do a search for 7zip, rar
[18:33] <Aztec007> HardDisk: ok
[18:33] <HardDisk> Aztec007, so you create identical clones
[18:33] <iclebyte_> np
[18:33] <Aztec007> HardDisk: do these programs reformat external HDs too?
[18:33] <HardDisk> Aztec007, no
[18:33] <DanB_> ok found it
[18:33] <DanB_> do i download it
[18:34] <HardDisk> Aztec007, use gparted from a livecd if you want to do all that
[18:34] <zenobius> DanB_: now i ve just searched for lzh, and it seems ive been running you on a token lesson for installing programs for ubuntu, becuase i oticed file-roller was installed on mine
[18:34] <Aztec007> HardDisk: is that program on the SystemRescue Cd?
[18:34] <HardDisk> DanB_, sudo apt-get install rar
[18:34] <HardDisk> Aztec007, I believe it is.
[18:34] <Aztec007> cool
[18:34] <zenobius> DanB_: yeah tick em to download
[18:34] <Aztec007> HardDisk: alright, thanks
[18:34] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, i got it
[18:34] <Aztec007> Happy new year
[18:34] <Aztec007> exit
[18:35] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, i got it
[18:35] <HardDisk> you too.
[18:35] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Sweet
[18:35] <zenobius> DanB_: then you want to click apply
[18:35] <iclebyte> ubuntu is awesome
[18:35] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, i just need a way to get it right in config
[18:35] <DanB_> ok its installing now
[18:35] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, can you help me?
[18:35] <seanh> Booting an Ubuntu alternate install CD on laptop, it is giving lots of errors including Buffer I/O Error on device sda5. Is sda5 the hard drive? Does this confirm a hardware problem with the hard drive? Thanks
[18:35] <iclebyte> i just installed mysql and got a GUI prompt asking for a root password =)
[18:35] <zenobius> DanB_: when thats done look for file-roller
[18:35] <rockets> Does anybody else find that gparted only works about 50% of the time
[18:35] <DanB_> ok says its done
[18:35] <zenobius> iclebyte: its root and no password
[18:36] <Cpudan80> On what kind of partitions?
[18:36] <Cpudan80> rockets: ^
[18:36] <DanB_> download that too
[18:36] <Cpudan80> rockets: It is known for failing on NTFS drives, but on *nix drives is does ok
[18:36] <rockets> Cpudan80, i just told it to delete an ntfs partition, and then create an ext3
[18:36] <zenobius> iclebyte: if you installed it via the terminal aka apt-get then it should have printed a message about how to  change the password
[18:36] <rockets> it deleted ntfs just fine
[18:36] <rockets> it failed to create ext3
[18:37] <Cpudan80> Yeah, it doesn't play nice at all with NTFS
[18:37] <PurpZeY> rockets: It's a game not a utility. It's like a diceroller
[18:37] <zenobius> DanB_: wasnt it installed? for sure
[18:37] <Arjun> PurpZeY,  hey dude could you please assit me in setting up ubunti 7.1 on the net?
[18:37] <iclebyte> zenobius, yea i know, i just think its cool i dont have to bust open a terminal like on slackware or gentoo. I wasnt asking for help, i was dishing out praise =)
[18:37] <rockets> PurpZeY, lol
[18:37] <PurpZeY> Arjun: I can try sure
[18:37] <DanB_> yes its in
[18:37] <Cpudan80> rockets: You could try QTParted
[18:37] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, can you help me?
[18:37] <zenobius> iclebyte: but mysql isnt a gui program its a server
[18:37] <DanB_> now what
[18:37] <rockets> Cpudan80, does it have TONS of KDE3 dependancies?
[18:37] <PurpZeY> Ok ok
[18:37] <htmljunkie> hello ubuntu's!
[18:37] <PurpZeY> I am here.
[18:38] <PurpZeY> Sorry, I was playing Nintendo
[18:38]  * Dr_willis thinks people should overcome their TerminalPhobia and embrace the cli! :)
[18:38] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: What's the deal?
[18:38] <Arjun> PurpZeY, must I resend you those pastebin thingies
[18:38] <zenobius> iclebyte: how did you get a gui prompt when running mysql?
[18:38] <PurpZeY> Arjun: What's the deal?
[18:38] <Cpudan80> rockets: IIRC it can run off a live CD
[18:38] <iclebyte> zenobius, i know that, but when you install it via synaptic it asks you to set a root password with a gui prompt
[18:38] <PurpZeY> Arjun: If you want me to read them, that'd be a good idea
[18:38] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, just need config help this is all weird to me :)
[18:38] <cornixx> Could someone help me with my xorg.conf? Posted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50523/
[18:38] <Arjun> PurpZeY, ok
[18:38] <iclebyte> zenobius, thats the bit i thought was cool =)
[18:38] <zenobius> iclebyte: ahhhh thats dpkg or gdebi not ubuntu
[18:38] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: You burnt the ISO, got nm-applet installed all that
[18:38] <rockets> Cpudan80, its still based on libparted though, so why would it not fail
[18:38] <Arjun> PurpZeY, brb
[18:38] <sCOTTo> no
[18:38] <sCOTTo> i got the wifiradar one
[18:39] <sCOTTo> did you wantthe other one on here?
[18:39] <cornixx> Although I set 1680*1050 as an option for all screens, I can't set it for any of them
[18:39] <iclebyte> zenobius, regardless it still gives me a semi =)
[18:39] <Cpudan80> rockets: Dunno, some people have reported better luck with it -- never used it much myself
[18:39] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: It doens't matter really
[18:39] <htmljunkie> does anyone know if ubuntu's going to become even more GUI friendly in the future or will it be like it is ?
[18:39] <sCOTTo> ok i got radar installed now
[18:39] <zenobius> iclebyte: gotta watch taht feature coz you know how you do an update sometimes....some servers will ask for a reconfigure in that term that gets embedded...and if you dont expand it you wont know its sitting htere asking for info
[18:39] <cornixx> Dual Head is working and I can set resolutions up to 1280*1024
[18:39] <PurpZeY> htmljunkie: More gui friendly?
[18:39] <rockets> htmljunkie, if past trends are any indication then im sure it will
[18:39] <sCOTTo> htmljunkie, it already IS user friendly
[18:39] <zenobius> htmljunkie: gui friendly?
[18:40] <Dr_willis> htmljunkie,  thats the general trend of all disrtos. Ive never seen one become less GUIie. :)
[18:40] <cornixx> highest widescreen I can set is 1152*864 though :(
[18:40] <htmljunkie> i know it is but i'm concerned about people converting
[18:40] <DanB_> so what do i do with file-roller then
[18:40] <htmljunkie> you still have a lot of CLI tutorials
[18:40] <Ahmuck> does the ppc port of ubuntu support all linux programs?
[18:40] <zenobius> htmljunkie: dont waste your enegy worryiong about them
[18:40] <Dr_willis> htmljunkie,  in MANY cases the CLI is the best way to do somthing. and its often the best way to do a tutorial.
[18:40] <htmljunkie> k
[18:40] <Arjun> right this is my ifconfig and route PurpZeY
[18:40] <Arjun> http://pastebin.com/mf33e4d9
[18:40] <tribaldata> Ahmuck: as far as i know yes
[18:40] <iclebyte> zenobius, nothings perfect.
[18:40] <cornixx> Anyone able to help me?
[18:40] <PurpZeY> Arjun: Ok.
[18:40] <zenobius> htmljunkie: make some kick ass xull + css + mootools sites
[18:40] <vwbusguy__> Ahmuck: it should for Ubuntu side, probably not for all multiverse though
[18:41] <flamsmark> harddisk, purpzey, thanks, that worked
[18:41] <cornixx> Pretty please?
[18:41] <Arjun> PurpZeY, Im trying to get my ubutu machine to connect to my router so I can use the inet
[18:41] <sCOTTo> bugger im starting to pass out from sleepless nights
[18:41]  * iclebyte is going to the pub. laters
[18:41] <tribaldata> cornixx: what's the issue ?
[18:41] <cornixx> [19:38] <cornixx> Could someone help me with my xorg.conf? Posted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50523/
[18:41] <Disastro> why is xubuntu so damn slow and how to make it faster?
[18:41] <cornixx> [19:38] <cornixx> Could someone help me with my xorg.conf? Posted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50523/
[18:41] <cornixx> errr
[18:41] <Dr_willis> cornixx,  you might want to sumamrize the actual problem.
[18:41] <cornixx> didn't want to repost that
[18:41] <zenobius> iclebyte: yeah its still cool...i still see macosx fall over on that point
[18:42] <cornixx> yeah, gimme a sec :D
[18:42] <tribaldata> cornixx: checking the pastebin
[18:42] <vwbusguy__> Disastro: what hardware are you running?
[18:42] <cornixx> Although I set 1680*1050 as an option for all screens, I can't set it for any of them
[18:42] <htmljunkie> mac os x is the most popular form of a unix OS
[18:42] <htmljunkie> so far
[18:42] <Disastro> 800mhz 256mb ram
[18:42] <cornixx> Dual Head is working and I can set resolutions up to 1280*1024
[18:42] <zenobius> iclebyte: ive stopped trying to tell my macosx friend about ubunt becuase he buys them as a mantle piece not a computer
[18:42] <Disastro> but ubuntu runs well
[18:42] <Disastro> well... better
[18:42] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, im going for a shower and coffee ill be back soon
[18:42] <sCOTTo> brb
[18:43]  * PurpZeY is leaving in 10 minutes or so 
[18:43] <vwbusguy__> Disastro: that's better than the specs on the machine I'm on now and mine isn't slow at all.  I'm using gnome with no desktop effects
[18:43] <htmljunkie> what makes mac os x popular is the GUI an how it handles installs, zips etc , a 3 year old coul use OSX easily
[18:43] <cornixx> and next time I write something I'm gonna add the name :D
[18:43] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, then can we do this now ?
[18:43] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Yes.
[18:43] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: did you run wifi radar?
[18:43] <zenobius> htmljunkie: and its video and graphics capabilites
[18:43] <Disastro> ubuntu runs fine, but xubuntu is slow
[18:43] <sCOTTo> ok awesome!
[18:43] <Shapeshifter> Hi. I have a serious problem: My ubuntu is behaving "lazy" for the past few days. For example if I hit the "shutdown/restart/etc" button nothing happens and I can't click anything for the next 60 seconds or so. I have to Ctrl-Backspace the X server and then shutdown from the login screen. Now I started thunderbird but it's not loading for 2 minutes now. What should I do?
[18:43] <sCOTTo> yes it is up
[18:43] <lastelement1> is there a way to send a folder with files over pidgin?
[18:43] <sCOTTo> I found the ssid i want to connect to
[18:43] <Disastro> should it be that ubuntu is slower?
[18:44] <flamsmark> hey, i'm having difficulty enabling compiz visual effects after installing some new apps, how can i fix this?
[18:44] <PurpZeY> Arjun: I am failing to see where the issue is......
[18:44] <zenobius> Disastro: how odd...it should be the other way round
[18:44] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, wifi options - should it be open or restricted ?
[18:44] <tribaldata> cornixx: i can't see anything wrong with it what's happening when you try to use the highest setting ?
[18:44] <zenobius> lastelement1: i wish
[18:44] <htmljunkie> is xubuntu the server distro
[18:44] <htmljunkie> ?
[18:44] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: That would be defined by the AP...if it's WEP or WPA
[18:44] <Ahmuck> htmljunkie: nope
[18:44] <Jowi> Disastro, see if "top" (or "htop" if you have it installed) show any CPU usage.
[18:44] <Disastro> i googled and found taht many people have slower xubuntu than kubuntu, but no solution
[18:44] <HardDisk> htmljunkie, no, ubuntu server edition is.
[18:44] <Dr_willis> htmljunkie,  No - thats the xfce edition.
[18:44] <lastelement1> zenobius so theres no way to do this
[18:44] <sCOTTo> wpa-psk
[18:44] <tribaldata> !xubuntu | htmljunkie
[18:44] <ubotu> htmljunkie: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[18:44] <cornixx> tribaldata: I don'T even get the option to set it anyhwere
[18:45] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: So it's restricted
[18:45] <Arjun> well its still not pinging the router wich is 10.0.0.2 PurpZeY
[18:45] <zenobius> htmljunkie: no xubuntu is a using xfce as the DE
[18:45] <Disastro> on top panel i have cpu usage meter and its 100% all the time
[18:45] <sCOTTo> ok i guess so
[18:45] <sCOTTo> im new
[18:45] <cornixx> neither in the Ati control panel nor in the resolution settings
[18:45] <Arjun> PurpZeY, or connecting
[18:45] <Disastro> what to look from top?
[18:45] <zenobius> lastelement1: yes there are some options. gnome-files.org
[18:45] <DanB_> after i extrack to the desktop what do i do
[18:45] <PurpZeY> Arjun: But the router is seeing it clearly....Or giving it an IP it appears to me
[18:45] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY,  now its asking for a wpa driver....
[18:45] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: That'd be your WPA key
[18:45] <Jowi> Disastro, so do what I suggest. see what prog is taking up the CPU time. run "top" or "htop" from a terminal
[18:46] <Arjun> PurpZeY,  nope the router is not cn it I added a static ip just now
[18:46] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, no the keyy is up above
[18:46] <htmljunkie> I was told xfce is the same as gnome but basically it is what gnome should have been in 2.0
[18:46] <zenobius> DanB_: wahts the pzip file for?
[18:46] <Disastro> nautilus 90%
[18:46] <htmljunkie> people are lyin to me
[18:46] <htmljunkie> lol
[18:46] <Disastro> next xorg 9%
[18:46] <zenobius> DanB_: woops, wahts the package for ?
[18:46] <Disastro> weird!
[18:46] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: Its a pull down or a type?
[18:46] <DanB_> tvu player
[18:46] <lgc> Hi. What's the thing with Googlearth on Gutsy? It just didn't survive the upgrade...
[18:46] <zenobius> Disastro: LOL, get rid of nautilus
[18:46] <sCOTTo> no a text box for a wpa DRIVER
[18:46] <Disastro> ...
[18:46] <zenobius> Disastro: sudo killall nautilus -9
[18:46] <HardDisk> DanB_, forget tvu player, get gtksopcast
[18:46] <Jowi> Disastro, "killall nautilus". why run nautilus with xfce when you have the excellent thunar?
[18:46] <tribaldata> cornixx: try to see if anyone have the same card as you  for myself i cannot see anyjthing wrong sorry
[18:46] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, a text box for a wpa DRIVER
[18:46] <cornixx> tribaldata: That's why I've been wondering. Everything seems alright, I just don't get the 1680 option to set anywhere
[18:46] <Disastro> yea
[18:47] <PurpZeY> Arjun: To me and maybe I am missing something....Why isn't eth0 showing
[18:47] <HardDisk> tvu player doesn't work well in wine
[18:47] <DanB_> wheere do i get it
[18:47] <Disastro> nut how to diable it every time i run xubuntu?
[18:47] <cornixx> tribaldata: is there some cli command I could use?
[18:47] <HardDisk> DanB_, sec I'll post it for ya
[18:47] <tribaldata> cornixx: checking
[18:47] <DanB_> thanks
[18:47] <Disastro> i havent started it
[18:47] <Arjun> PurpZeY, where is it suposed to show
[18:47] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: I am not familiar enough w/ Wifi-radar hang on
[18:47] <zenobius> Jowi: why stop at thunar....pcmanfm is even leaner
[18:47] <sCOTTo> ok
[18:47] <Disastro> it has autostarter
[18:47] <PurpZeY> Arjun: I'll show you a paste of my iwconfig
[18:47] <Jowi> Disastro, that I don't know (I don't use xfce but I do use thunar)
[18:47] <flamsmark> hey, i'm having difficulty enabling compiz visual effects after installing some new apps, how can i pick the right driver to enable them?
[18:47] <Disastro> ok
[18:47] <Disastro> ill google for it
[18:47] <Arjun> PurpZeY, do you think it could be the loopback that may be conflicting with eth0
[18:47] <zenobius> Disastro: i have my old man running xubuntu
[18:48] <sCOTTo> PurpZeY, ink it wants settings for wpa_supplicant ???
[18:48] <Disastro> thanks for help
[18:48] <Arjun> PurpZeY, ok
[18:48] <Jowi> zenobius, pcmanfm screwed up some file moving for me a couple of months back. since then I don't want to risk anything :)
[18:48] <lgc> !googleearth
[18:48] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[18:48] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: It may well....I honestly just don't know that software enough...give it a shot, I was just going to google it
[18:48] <Nrbelex> Hi, I need some help with a troublesome wireless connection in 7.10
[18:48] <fodi> hello
[18:48] <lgc> !Medibuntu
[18:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[18:48] <sCOTTo> i think i have configured supplicant worngly
[18:48] <Jowi> zenobius, might be pcmanfm's hal implementation that is buggy...
[18:48] <sCOTTo> ok
[18:48] <PurpZeY> Arjun: http://pastebin.com/m7af743da -- Note that eth1 says exactly what it is
[18:49] <sCOTTo> ok
[18:49] <zenobius> Jowi: or hal is buggy?
[18:49] <HardDisk> DanB_, http://linuxtoy.org/archives/gtk_sopcast.html
[18:49] <Jowi> zenobius, nah. never had a prob with any other file manager :)
[18:49] <fodi> anybody knows CHESS CLIENT for ubuntu with which I can connect to playchess.com?
[18:49] <rexy_> Nrbelex: did you look in the wireless howto on the wiki?
[18:49] <HardDisk> DanB_, Download GTK-sopcast 0.2.8 Deb package
[18:49] <jettero> the mouse cursor on the GDM login screen changed to some super heinious X cursor... any idea where you set the GDM login mouse cursor, or why it changed?
[18:49]  * sCOTTo is starting to passout at the kb
[18:49] <zenobius> Jowi: must be my ipod
[18:49] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: http://pastebin.com/m7af743da
[18:49] <sCOTTo> time is coming for coffee
[18:49] <PurpZeY> whooops
[18:49] <PurpZeY> Sorry
[18:49] <PurpZeY> ignore that
[18:49] <zenobius> Jowi: or my damn usb 1. ports
[18:50] <Nrbelex> rexy_ yes, I am currently able to see networks, but I cannot connect to them
[18:50] <Arjun> PurpZeY, ok what does all this mean
[18:50] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200164
[18:50] <DanB_> thnaks
[18:50] <rexy_> Nrbelex: well you can go through wpa_supplicant but it's easier to use nm-applet
[18:50] <Flare183> What is the backend name for the rm codec converter?
[18:50] <PurpZeY> Arjun: To me it looks like your LAN Device is not communicating properly with your router and/or ubuntu. What does it show up as under lspci ?
[18:50] <Disastro> does this work to change file manager in ubuntu AND xubuntu? http://assente.vega9.com/it/use_thunar_as_default_gnome_file_manager
[18:50] <sCOTTo> ok
[18:50] <fodi> anybody knows CHESS CLIENT for ubuntu with which I can connect to playchess.com?
[18:50] <Arjun> PurpZeY, dude mine just sais no wireless extensions
[18:51] <Jowi> zenobius, ROX is also very light and good but I finally decided on thunar. seems to work well for me.
[18:51] <rexy_> Nrbelex: err that last comment wasnt directed at you, what exactly isnt working for you then?
[18:51] <Disastro> or how i change nautilus completely to thunar
[18:51] <Arjun> PurpZeY, where do i find lspci
[18:51] <Nrbelex> rexy_ how can I diagnose the failure in making a connection using the nm-applet
[18:51] <PurpZeY> Arjun: I understand, but somewhere in lspci or lsmod you're going to have a eth1 or eth0 listed as a device "Intel Wired Connect thing" "NETGear Thing"
[18:51] <zenobius> Jowi: yeah thunar even has a awesome file-porperties box
[18:51] <rexy_> Nrbelex: what type of network are you connecting to, and what driver are you using
[18:51] <PurpZeY> Arjun: Run lspci | grep eth
[18:51] <DSpair> Nrbelex: You can look at the syslog files. They will usually give you a hint as what is happening.
[18:52] <Jowi> fodi, I only used http://www.freechess.org/ (FICS)
[18:52] <HardDisk> fodi, have you searched?
[18:52] <rianne> hi all
[18:52] <Nrbelex> A standard home 802.11 network with WEP on and off - I had everything working until I reinstalled up to 7.10
[18:52] <rianne> my pc does not boot after a kernel upgrade
[18:52] <rianne> I can boot from a live cd just fine
[18:52] <Disastro> how to change ubuntu AND xubuntu use thunar?
[18:52] <zenobius> so sopcast is like democracy tv? or joost?
[18:52] <Nrbelex> DSpair, which logs are pertinent/ where are they?
[18:52] <nownot> ok fishing here but maybe someone can help me. i have a vpn server that is on a connection with 2mb up but when i stream video from the server i only get about 200kb's. i edit qos on my router on the vpn network so that any connection coming to or from teh ip has the highest priorty, still didnt help. anyone else have any ideas?
[18:52] <DanB_> can i get foxnew on this player HARDDRIVE
[18:53] <DanB_> hard disk  sorry
[18:53] <zenobius> Disastro: best you can do is get folders to 'open with thunar...'
[18:53] <Jowi> rianne, try to boot the earlier kernel version (latest kernel is not always the best one for you)
[18:53] <EduardoSal> já?
[18:53] <fodi> harddisk, yes with google, but native linux not found only solutions with wine
[18:53] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> merry christimas!
[18:53] <EduardoSal> heuaheu
[18:53] <Arjun> PurpZeY, dude under ethernet it sais stuff like via technologies...etc
[18:53] <rexy_> nownot: 2Mb or 2Mbit
[18:53] <PurpZeY> Arjun: Pastebin me that please, but do it quickly I really need to go somewhere
[18:53] <fodi> jovi, thx i will have a look
[18:53] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> happy birthday  adante!
[18:53] <Disastro> but i need kill nautilus every time?
[18:54] <nownot> rexy_: its bit lowercase b
[18:54] <Arjun> ok sure
[18:54] <zenobius> Disastro: do you need nautilus?
[18:54] <rianne> Jowi: no go: I can not boot from 2.6.20-15 (which is in my menu) but i Can boot from 2.6.22-14 from the LIVE CD
[18:54] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> EduardoSal: sweet candy!
[18:54] <rexy_> then 200k seems pretty good for a 2Mbit connection?
[18:54] <zenobius> Disastro: have alook in your session manager gui
[18:54] <EduardoSal> kamus como se diz pega leve em ingles? kkkkk
[18:55] <PurpZeY> sCOTTo: You should be well on your way, so, I am going to leave you to do what you are doing, if you run into any problem at this point there should be ample documentation or someone around here can help
[18:55] <PurpZeY> !es
[18:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:55] <Dreyffusz> I am with the following problem: after I messed with the ATI drivers, when I start the computer, after the Grub message and the first ubuntu screen everything goes black. How do I fiz that? x_x
[18:55] <Dreyffusz> fix
[18:55] <mactimes> EduardoSal: "Take it easy"
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> EduardoSal: keep it easy!
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> or take
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :D
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> mactimes: é b
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :p
[18:55] <EduardoSal> haha yes. thaks
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> br*
[18:55] <ace_suares> hello
[18:55] <nownot> rexy_: math is 200,000 byes = 1,600,000 bits right? then that does seem about right
[18:55] <Jowi> rianne, normally when you do a kernel upgrade with apt-get or synaptic, the old kernel will not be removed from the menu. At boot, press ESC and see if it's there
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hail!
[18:55] <mactimes> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Indeed =)
[18:55] <tribaldata> cornixx: can't find anything of value for you
[18:55] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> mactimes: :D
[18:55] <_6StringKng_> where in gconf-editor is the option to show mounted drives on the desktop, I disabled it a while back and now I forget where its at >.<
[18:55] <cornixx> :(
[18:55] <mactimes> Kamus_H_Zwisch: You got that right =)  Carioca da gema =)
[18:56] <cornixx> tribaldata: Thanks anyhow
[18:56] <EduardoSal> Take it easy kamus
[18:56] <Disastro> zenobius: where?
[18:56] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> mactimes: carioca de gema
[18:56] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :p
[18:56] <rexy_> nownot: yes, there's a bit of overhead involved for the tcp vpn and streaming of video
[18:56] <tribaldata> cornixx: your best bet would be to try to find a users that got the same card as you
[18:56] <EduardoSal> My english is very peba
[18:56] <Nrbelex2> rexy_ and DSpair, sorry - just switched computers
[18:56] <Disastro> new to xubuntu :)
[18:56] <DSpair> Nrbelex: For the nm-applet information, just look at /var/log/messages and that should show you everything you need. If you want you can use "grep" to filter on NetworkManager.
[18:56] <Dreyffusz> EduardoSal:  ehehehe
[18:56] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> EduardoSal: suck my holy pirulitos de morango
[18:56] <Ryan450> hey all
[18:56] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hey nobody
[18:57] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :p
[18:57] <cornixx> tribaldata:  Spent 2 days now trying to fix that stuff, reading tons of tutorials and forums. I'm just fed up with Linux for now and be back to Win I guess
[18:57] <EduardoSal> Uepa.
[18:57] <zenobius> Disastro: should be under your system menu
[18:57] <cornixx> See when Linux gets more userfriendly
[18:57] <Dreyffusz> cor what happened?
[18:57] <EduardoSal> Kamus go to well [
[18:57] <ace_suares> cornixx
[18:57] <EduardoSal> hehe
[18:57] <Dreyffusz> cornixx:  what happened?
[18:57] <tribaldata> cornixx: i'm sure you will find out soon, keep it as a dual boot ;)
[18:57] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> EduardoSal: and you to hell
[18:57] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :d
[18:57] <zenobius> Disastro: im not running xfce desktop here , so cant reality check on the fly.
[18:57] <makers_mark> i'm running ubuntu 7.10 and i installed kde a couple of days ago but then decided to switch back to gnome.so i ran "sudo apt-get remove kde" and "sudo apt-get remove kdm" but the system load screen still says "Kubuntu" instead of the original "Ubuntu" screen.how can i fix that?
[18:57] <nownot> rexy_: thanks, guess im going to have to go with the 15/15 fios then
[18:57] <EduardoSal> i say well frufru
[18:57] <Dreyffusz> cornixx: leopard is aways an option :P
[18:57] <PurpZeY> Arjun: ?
[18:57] <EduardoSal> no hell
[18:57] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: I'm trying to set one of my screens to 1680x1050
[18:58] <Disastro> i have applications > system, but there's no such a thing
[18:58] <tribaldata> !splashscreen
[18:58] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[18:58] <ace_suares> makers_mark: hmmm.. sontheing with ubuntu-artwork, i think
[18:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> makers_mark: is something about configure alternatives
[18:58] <rexy_> nownot 15/15 fios?
[18:58] <cornixx> And I'm keeping it dualboot anyhow till Linux supports all games in Win-speed ;)
[18:58] <ace_suares> How can I get my PC to boot again ?
[18:58] <EduardoSal> The lines here fly
[18:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> fly?
[18:58] <Arjun> PurpZeY, coming up
[18:58] <tribaldata> makers_mark: nice name love that bourbon and here for you
[18:58] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: You got an ATI card?
[18:58] <zenobius> _6StringKng_: apps ->nautilus
[18:58] <makers_mark> anyone?
[18:58] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> they hail and kill!
[18:59] <EduardoSal> voa
[18:59] <flamsmark> what drivers for an intel mobile 940gml graphics controller support 'extra' or 'custom' visual effects?
[18:59] <EduardoSal> :-)
[18:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> eu sei, acéalo
[18:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :p
[18:59] <alec__> Anyone out here know much about Mythbuntu?
[18:59] <tribaldata> !splashscreen | makers_mark
[18:59] <ubotu> makers_mark: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[18:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> makers_mark: is something about configure alternatives
[18:59] <PurpZeY> alec__: It is all fake
[18:59] <flamsmark> !intel 940 gml
[18:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel 940 gml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <EduardoSal> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[18:59] <flamsmark> !intel 940gml
[18:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel 940gml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:59] <DanB__> how do i work gsopcast..i dont get a image
[18:59] <PurpZeY> I make joke
[18:59] <Nrbelex2> DSpair, I am looking at the log - what should I be looking for
[18:59] <alec__> purp:  what? plz explain.
[18:59] <makers_mark> i see,thanks.
[18:59] <PurpZeY> alec__: I was kidding
[18:59] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> ubotu said all, makers_mark
[18:59] <alec__> ah
[18:59] <alec__> i c
[19:00] <DSpair> Nrbelex2: Use the "tail" command and "grep" commands to watch for "NetworkManager". Then try to connect to a network.
[19:00] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> ubotu:  is a very smart bot
[19:00] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> D:
[19:00] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :d
[19:00] <Arjun> PurpZeY, http://pastebin.com/m2cf3e7aa
[19:00] <cornixx> Anyone here is running his PC on a Radeon 9800 Pro and is able to set resolutions higher than 1280*1024?
[19:00] <javb> i did a fresh install of ubuntu gutsy, i used limewire, now i installed it and it will start pefect but it does not connect. Ubuntu gusty comes with some kind of firewall i dont kwno that is causing this? or any other idea?
[19:00] <bluefox83> no
[19:00] <r-wolf> "play file.mp3" keeps silence! what's the matter?
[19:00] <tribaldata> cornixx: i never asked but what are the driver your are running for your card ?
[19:01] <Dreyffusz> jav it doesnt come with firewall
[19:01] <javb> ?
[19:01] <zenobius> cornixx: depends on waht mode your using to display and wether your monitor supports it ie xinerama, mergefb etc
[19:01] <Disastro> zenobius: what program is trackerd?
[19:01] <Disastro> it uses 70-80% of my cpu
[19:01] <Dreyffusz> javb: limewire is just buggeh
[19:01] <cornixx> tribaldata: After messing around with the open source and proprietary drivers from the repo I installed envy and got the original ones
[19:01] <bluefox83> gutsy doesn't have a built in firewall that inhibits anything, however, you need to refresh your list of sources in limewire
[19:01] <zenobius> Disastro: a search and indexing thing, much better than beagle
[19:01] <Dreyffusz> javb: try frostwire, its better anyways xP
[19:01] <Arjun> PurpZeY, dont wory dude Im just gona go back to the darkside of windowz
[19:01] <Nrbelex2> DSpair, Linux is a bit foreign to me... in what context do I use the commands in the terminal?
[19:01] <zenobius> Disastro: but still a drain
[19:01] <cornixx> tribaldata:  Which at least allowed me to use dual head
[19:02] <javb> Dreyffusz  ---> same issue with frostwire.
[19:02] <Disastro> it just came to top of the list
[19:02] <cornixx> zenobius: It works fine in WinXP
[19:02] <Disastro> is it ok to kill
[19:02] <Dreyffusz> javb: :-\
[19:02] <rafallo> I need some help
[19:02] <zenobius> Disastro: if you dont need that kind of thing remove it all together "sudo apt-get remove trackerd tacker-search-tool'
[19:02] <DSpair> Nrbelex2: Open a command prompt and obtain root privileges.
[19:02] <Dreyffusz> javb: I had that once I cant remeber how I fixed it >_<
[19:02] <rafallo> Jan  2 18:37:26 rafallo gdm[6722]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[19:02] <zenobius> cornixx: are you dual screening?
[19:02] <rafallo> and gdm automaticaly restart
[19:02] <Disastro> i need search
[19:02] <javb> Dreyffusz, : (
[19:02] <Nrbelex2> rexy_ I am using a WUSB11 ver. 2.6 with the at76c503a  driver
[19:02] <Disastro> but not all thet ime
[19:03] <Nrbelex2> DSpair, OK
[19:03] <cornixx> zenobius: Yes, dual head working fine
[19:03] <cornixx> just no full resolution
[19:03] <zenobius> cornixx: how? xinerama or mergefb?
[19:03] <rake> To mount a reiserfs hard drive that has files I want to share over the network     do I do mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdb1 /samba/share/here
[19:03] <DSpair> Nrbelex2: Type "tail -f /var/log/messages | grep -i networkmanager" and press <ENTER>
[19:03] <rexy_> Nrbelex2: are you connecting to a wep or wpa network? do you have the proper key etc?
[19:03] <Xadacka> Hello World
[19:03] <Disastro> so if i remove it i can't search for files?
[19:03] <Dreyffusz> Ok I have a question for you (curiosity): howcome people say slackware is lighter or w.e. then ubuntu and yet it uses 6 CDs for installation while ubuntu only needs one?
[19:03] <cornixx> zenobius: errr... how to find out? I used aticonfig :D
[19:03] <Dreyffusz> =p
[19:03] <alec__> Can someone help me with some TV problems I"m having.
[19:04] <alec__> ?
[19:04] <zenobius> cornixx: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep xinerama
[19:04] <zenobius> cornixx: is that returns a line, then thas waht your using
[19:05] <Kasplatt> is it possible to install linux on a macbook ? I don't know much about macbooks . all I know is that they're cheap
[19:05] <co0lingFir3> alec__: which problems do u encounter?
[19:05] <cornixx> zenobius: It ain't
[19:05] <Disastro> when is trackerd runt?
[19:05] <Disastro> on log in?
[19:05] <rake> To mount a reiserfs hard drive that has files I want to share over the network     do I do mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdb1 /samba/share/here
[19:05] <cornixx> Guess that means mergefb :D
[19:05] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: wow macbooks are cheap? o_o
[19:05] <Nrbelex2> DSpair: tail:invalid option
[19:05] <Nrbelex2> rexy_, yes yes
[19:06] <zenobius> cornixx: ok ill help you get some info from your ati logs about your monitors but im not sure exactly how to get your desired reslts....but it will be easier if you have the refresh rates etc
[19:06] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: I thought they costed far more then a vaio >_> which costs far more then a eee :P
[19:06] <Disastro> how do i reduce memory usage?
[19:06] <Disastro> running xubuntu
[19:06] <zenobius> Disastro: trackerd is started before login screen sometime.
[19:07] <Dreyffusz> Disastro: or fluxbox
[19:07] <zenobius> Disastro: its not essential
[19:07] <cornixx> zenobius: Am I running the right mode or should I run Xinerama?
[19:07] <Disastro> its not started in bootup because i checked sysv-rc-conf
[19:07] <THX1138> does anybody know when there will be an update for the broken flash plugin plz?
[19:07] <Dreyffusz> THX1138: u can download a .deb for flash
[19:07] <unholycrap> hey whats going on i installed ubuntu and it set up my sound and video card for me whats the deal
[19:07] <Disastro> but how can i search when i remove trackerd
[19:07] <Dreyffusz> THX1138: its on ubuntu forums somewhere
[19:07] <unholycrap> it even updated my video card drivers without much of my help
[19:07] <Nrbelex2> DSpair, I tried it again
[19:07] <Dreyffusz> THX1138: just search for .beb flash
[19:08] <ericjk> THX1138: There is a patch on Launchpad...
[19:08] <Disastro> or then i need to use killall everytime?
[19:08] <unholycrap> weeeeriirdd
[19:08] <Dreyffusz> .deb
[19:08] <alec__> coolingFir3:__  I do have sounds when I'm listening to music, but no sound when I turn on television.
[19:08] <Nrbelex2> DSpair and it worked, I thunk
[19:08] <DSpair> Nrbelex2: It is not... You've mis-typed something.
[19:08] <Nrbelex2> *think
[19:08] <zenobius> cornixx: not sure, as imy lcd doesnt support more than 1024x78, my crt does but ugh dual screen on  disjointed perspective is a headache so, i dont go for more tha 1024
[19:08] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: uhhh , I think they're cheap idk ..
[19:08] <THX1138> thx Dreyffusz
[19:08] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: they r cute
[19:08] <DSpair> Nrbelex2: Sorry, the file should be "/var/log/syslog", but everything else should be the same.
[19:08] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: :P
[19:09] <zenobius> cornixx: examine this file : cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:09] <nucularbum> hi guys, i'm a linux newbie and am having difficulty with printing to a printer connected to a win98 computer.. anyone willing to lend a hand?
[19:09] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: yeah lol, but I don't know which video card they have ?
[19:09] <Disastro> wll need to figure these out tomorrow
[19:09] <zenobius> cornixx: woops use gedit on it
[19:09] <Disastro> thanks for help and cya
[19:09] <cornixx> kk
[19:09] <chipsa964> is there a way i can run internet explorer? theres an important web site i need to get to that doesnt support firefox
[19:09] <zenobius> laters
[19:09] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: probably a horrible one, considering apple screws up on video cards as far as I know :P
[19:09] <zenobius> cornixx: somewher in there is a portion of info about he resoltuions your card will support
[19:09] <shawn> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu... is there any way to view the information in my lost + found folder/
[19:10] <zenobius> shawn: open it
[19:10] <nucularbum> :D
[19:10] <shawn> it tells me I don't have permissions lol
[19:10] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: hehe , it didn't say on the box , only processor and price :P
[19:10] <zenobius> shawn: but maybe the stuff is hidden so press ctrl+h
[19:10] <Flare183> shawn: use gksudo to open it
[19:10] <skazi_> kanenas ellinas edw mesa?
[19:10] <Dreyffusz> shawn: ctrl + f2 -> gksudo nautilus
[19:10] <billy_> hi... does anybody have any experience installed plotemy (long shot) on ubuntu?
[19:10] <zenobius> shawn: yeah gksudo
[19:10] <Dreyffusz> shawn: or would it be shift f2 x_0
[19:10] <shawn> zenobius: ok thanks
[19:10] <shawn> zenobius: trying now
[19:10] <J-W> Hey guys.. I'm having a hard time installing ubuntu and winXP on a dual boot system: on a 130 Gb drive I create a 100 Gb partition for winXP, I install it and then I install Ubuntu on the remaining 30Gb. After completion and installing grub to the MBR windows gives a BSOD on boot. Linux boots fine
[19:10] <chipsa964> is there a way i can run internet explorer? theres an important web site i need to get to that doesnt support firefox
[19:10] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: wow , vaio is cheap :o
[19:11] <nucularbum> wine
[19:11] <bsdlogical> chipsa964, you should be able to install it using wine
[19:11] <zenobius> shawn: Dreyffusz has the way
[19:11] <chipsa964> bsdlogical, i tried
[19:11] <chipsa964> it says check my permissions
[19:11] <bsdlogical> chipsa964, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:11] <zenobius> chipsa964: out of curiosity point me to the website
[19:11] <EduardoSal> Somebory here eat cocô?
[19:11] <Nrbelex2> DSpair, done
[19:11] <bluefox83> what package provides libutempter.so.0 ?
[19:11] <cornixx> zenobius: It's not listing 1680*1050
[19:11] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: vaio champagne looks hot
[19:11] <chipsa964> graduate.auburn.edu/gspoststudent
[19:11] <nucularbum> i'm having difficulty with printing to a printer connected to a win98 computer.. anyone willing to lend a hand?
[19:11] <cornixx> Guess it won't work in Ubuntu then
[19:12] <bsdlogical> chipsa964, I've had success on gutsy using the documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[19:12] <zenobius> cornixx: you found that  massive section where its logged its attempts to use various resolutions?
[19:12] <ericjk> THX1138: Checkout... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/173890
[19:12] <Flare183> !microsoft | nucularbum
[19:12] <ubotu> nucularbum: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[19:12] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: just made one on the website , 17" costs $1919.99 :P , not that expensive
[19:12] <shawn> it tells me that I don't have permission to access the folder
[19:12] <shawn> still :(
[19:12] <chipsa964> bsdlogical, i run gutsy
[19:12] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: here where I live vaios are horribly expensive, its cheaper to buy a ticked to US and buy them there x_0
[19:12] <cornixx> zenobius: One for each monitor
[19:12] <kbrosnan> chipsa964: nucularbum wine by default uses firefox for html rendering, there are directions to install the ie html engine
[19:13] <Flare183> shawn: use gksudo file manager
[19:13] <zenobius> chipsa964: hae you looked at 'ie4linux'?
[19:13] <yemu> hi does anyone has problem with kernel after update from gutsy?
[19:13] <chipsa964> zenobius, where is that?
[19:13] <alec__> Can someone help me with some TV problems I"m having.
[19:13] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: yeah , I bought my laptop , it's shit and cost a shitload of money :/
[19:13] <Dreyffusz> ye most people do >_>
[19:13] <nucularbum> thanks for the tip, will try now
[19:13] <shawn> flare: How do I use the gksudo file manager?  I'm sorry, when you say 'shift f2' I'm not sure where to do that.  I'm incredibly bad at this
[19:13] <THX1138> ericjk thx
[19:13] <Dreyffusz> yemu:  most people do >_>
[19:13] <zenobius> chipsa964: google will remind me,,,,
[19:13] <pike_> Kasplatt: i wouldnt recommend spending the $ on a vaio
[19:13] <zenobius> chipsa964: if you dont beat me to it
[19:13] <chipsa964> haha ok ill look it up
[19:13] <Kasplatt> pike_: why not ?
[19:14] <yemu> Dreyffusz: and is there any solution to this?
[19:14] <Dreyffusz> Kasplatt: which one did u buy
[19:14] <zenobius> cornixx: same here
[19:14] <EduardoSal> Somebory here eat cocô?
[19:14] <EduardoSal> aff
[19:14] <RenatoSilva> what's a regex for a commented command line? "^[ ]+[#]+[ ]+*" ?
[19:14] <Dreyffusz> yemu: the only solution I found so  far is not upgrading xD
[19:14] <cptR3D> anyone think they can help? my volume button disappeared somehow
[19:14] <Kasplatt> pike_: am considering buying a Alienware laptop
[19:14] <kbrosnan> chipsa964: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[19:14] <Kasplatt> Dreyffusz: one from toshiba , but it was only for school so it's okay
[19:15] <pike_> Kasplatt: its mostly just a form factor you dont get performance equal to what you spend and if you want ultralight there are other alternatives. course personally i wouldnt spend more than 900 on a lappy so maybe my perpective is diff from yours
[19:15] <yemu> Dreyffusz: it's a little to late :-( cause i already upgraded
[19:15] <chipsa964> kbrosnan, i just got there, thanks :D
[19:15] <pike_> Kasplatt: we're in #ubuntu-offtopic if youd like to discuss it
[19:15] <yemu> is id possible to downgrade only the kernel?
[19:15] <Dreyffusz> yemu: :-(
[19:15] <alec__> Can someone help me with an audio problem I"m having.
[19:15] <pike_> yemu: yes
[19:15] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: i think full-stop is for matching any character
[19:15] <cornixx> Man, this sucks :(
[19:15] <yemu> pike_:  can you give more info?
[19:16] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: and i think that the power symbol '^' is for matching strings that at the start of the line
[19:16] <cornixx> Was looking forward to running Ubuntu on my desktop, too
[19:16] <Jowi> Kasplatt, disregarding the SONY screwups (is that an adult word?) the quality level of the recent VAIO's is quite bad. HDD crashes and failed MB's mainly.
[19:16] <Nrbelex2> So... can anyone help me with a wireless connection where I can see networks but not connect to them?
[19:16] <zenobius> cornixx: blame microsfts monopolistic control of hardware support
[19:16] <Dreyffusz> cornixx: what the big issue ur having?
[19:16] <pike_> yemu: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst you can boot whatever kernel is in there. you can either grab a kernel package or whatever
[19:16] <Flare183> shawn: press alt+f2 then type in gksu nautilus
[19:16] <Kasplatt> Jowi: ahh , okay ..
[19:16] <alec__> Can someone help me with an audio problem I'm having?????
[19:16] <function1> my printer is recognized and installed, but when i try to print, it goes through the motions, but the page is blank. is it likely that i just have bad cartridges?
[19:16] <cornixx> zenobius: I'm not blaming anyone :D
[19:17] <DanB> When i launch gsopcast i dont get a image,i'm i  doing something wrong
[19:17] <nucularbum> the windows related links you sent don't seem to be of help :/
[19:17] <Dreyffusz> Jowi: oooh didnt know vaios were screwed up :O
[19:17] <yemu> pike_: ok. i know, but i only have 2.6.17 which gives me "failed to initialize hal" after logic
[19:17] <zenobius> cornixx: im content to have recently discoverd that my raedon 9660 lets me run compiz dual screen
[19:17] <yemu> logni
[19:17] <crush_groove> /var/cache/apt/archives  is where all my downloaded pkges are ?
[19:17] <billy_> how do i install java runtime on ubuntu?
[19:17] <gob1029> sup boi
[19:17] <Dreyffusz> Jowi: good to know ;O How about macbooks?
[19:17] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: I can't set a resolution higher than 1280*1024 with my Radeon 9800 Pro when running Ubuntu
[19:17] <billy_> how do i install java runtime on ubuntu feisty
[19:17] <gob1029> sup boi
[19:17] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: Under WinXP it works fine
[19:17] <skazi_> KANENA ELLINAS EDW MES?
[19:17] <cornixx> zenobius: compiz? :D
[19:18] <gob1029> hey
[19:18] <cornixx> !compiz
[19:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:18] <Dreyffusz> cornixx: just for curiosity how big is ur screen? o_X
[19:18] <zenobius> billy: by first searching the website : help.ubuntu.com/community
[19:18] <Jowi> Kasplatt, the older VAIO's I've serviced has better build quality... funny enough, my Sony Plasma 32" TV and Sony T1 camera both failed two weeks ago.
[19:18] <zenobius> cornixx: yeah i was like OMG
[19:18] <DanB> I need help installing a zip file PLEASE
[19:18] <zenobius> zenobius: then i galzed over and ....
[19:18] <Kasplatt> Jowi: heh , lame.. the PS3 is fine tho :P
[19:18] <crush_groove> !java
[19:18] <bsdlogical> can anyone offer a suggestion? I've been trying to boot Ubuntu gutsy on a Dell PowerEdge server, but I keep getting SQUASHFS errors. The CD is valid - the checksums match and it works on other machines.
[19:18] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[19:18] <zenobius> DanB: sup? whats in it?
[19:18] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: 0 is a 1680*1050 native, 1 is a 1280*1024 native
[19:19] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: Both LCD
[19:19] <DanB> TVU player
[19:19] <bsdlogical> when I try loading a GParted CD, everything boots. I think it's an Ubuntu livecd problem. has anyone had similar problems?
[19:19] <zenobius> DanB: okiesm, didnt you get a deb file though?>
[19:19] <Jowi> Dreyffusz, no idea. I own a mac mini (core duo) though and it's excellent hardware even if a bit lowspec. It's a pure ubuntu machine now :)
[19:19] <sentano> Does anyone know  a decent guide for multibooting 3 OS or more?
[19:19] <alec__> I love Ubuntu!!!!
[19:19] <zenobius> DanB: or was that the other prog recommended>
[19:19] <DanB> gsopcast doesnt seem to work
[19:19] <DanB> or im doing something wrong
[19:20] <zenobius> DanB: yeah its looked kind of "just broken into the higly secure ubuntu compund, now i gotta break into the missle silo...and wooooops"
[19:20] <zenobius> DanB: recently portted windows apps are like that
[19:21] <DanB> I new to this so i dont know what im doning
[19:21] <DanB> how do i get tvu to work
[19:21] <zenobius> DanB:  you may have to compile it
[19:21] <Jowi> sentano, which OS's?
[19:21] <DanB> how do i do that
[19:21] <zenobius> DanB: got a like where you got hte file from
[19:21] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: I've found a regex I worte a time ago, but can't understand it :D
[19:21] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: "^ *[^#].*$"
[19:21] <cornixx> Dreyffusz: Any ideas? :D
[19:21] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: [^#]????
[19:22] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: .*????
[19:22] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: ahhh hash mark....its for matching numbers i think
[19:22] <corinth> !punctuation
[19:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:22] <axl> help
[19:22] <zenobius> put a \ in front to escape it
[19:22] <axl> #help
[19:22] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: no, it's about "#"
[19:22] <DanB> how do i extract the tvu zip so i can use that
[19:22] <cptR3D> !sound
[19:22] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: bu I dont' undestand the "^" in [^#]
[19:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:23] <bqmassey> what package should i get to open up .rar's
[19:23] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: ^  means that it only looks for matches at start of line
[19:23] <RenatoSilva> What's the meaning of "[^" and ".*" on the regex "^ *[^#].*$"  ????
[19:23] <zenobius> # means match numbers
[19:23] <Dreyffusz> cornixx: nope sorry ;(
[19:23] <Flare183> !rar | bqmassey
[19:23] <ubotu> bqmassey: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[19:23] <sentano>  Jowi: I have a dualboot now with ubuntu&xp, but I didn't succeed with  the manual ubuntu install, so I ended up with guided dualboot install and created a separate /home partition afterwards using aysiu's excellent guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome. So now I Want to add pclos and sabayon..
[19:23] <Nrbelex2> I can see wireless networks but cannot connect - I eventually get a string of "old device 'wlan0' activating, won't change." and then nothing
[19:23] <Nrbelex2> any thoughts
[19:23] <Nrbelex2> ?
[19:23] <DanB> im confused big time
[19:23] <Flare183> !enter
[19:23] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: [] are grouping monikeers
[19:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:24] <zenobius> Dan
[19:24] <cornixx> Dreyffusz, zenobius: Thanks anyhow
[19:24] <cornixx> Maybe I'll find something by coincidence
[19:24] <Nrbelex2> My apologies, regardless, does anyone have any thoughts?
[19:24] <axl> irc.oltreirc.net
[19:24] <DanB> I just want to leand how to install programs...zips mostly
[19:25] <zenobius> DanB: can you grab me the link of the website you got that file from?
[19:25] <DanB> 1 sec
[19:25] <maaike> can anyone help me uninstall ghc-6.8.1?
[19:25] <zenobius> cornixx: would you believe thas exactly how i got my dual comiz setup going? ill send yuo a pastebin of my xorg
[19:25] <nucularbum> what am i supposed to enter in "location" in the printer properties dialogue? (network printing)
[19:25] <Kasplatt> which laptop should I buy :P ?
[19:25] <DanB> http://linuxtoy.org/archives/gtk_sopcast.html
[19:26] <corinth> alright, i need help w/ my ATI card
[19:26] <corinth>  I've got the drivers installed correctly
[19:26] <corinth>  but when I go to enable enhanced desktop effects
[19:26] <corinth>  I get the message "The composite extension is not available"
[19:26] <corinth> . #compiz-fusion seems dead, heh.
[19:26] <DanB> i dont get any video
[19:26] <zenobius> cornixx: http://pastebin.com/m71445617
[19:26] <Dreyffusz> corinth: I had the same problem
[19:26] <krammer> to check my system is it ok to run fsck?
[19:26] <nucularbum> corinth: because you had to disable it in order for you ati card to work? that was the case with me
[19:26] <Dreyffusz> corinth: couldnt't fix it tho ='(
[19:27] <maaike> can anyone help me with ghc-6.8.1??? It's not working :(
[19:27] <zenobius> DanB: keep this link for later when you get it running : http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm
[19:27] <nucularbum> what am i supposed to enter in "location" in the printer properties dialogue? (network printing)
[19:27] <Dreyffusz> corinth: compiz is buggy and not useful AT ALL
[19:27] <Strel> how can i wach satelite tv under ubuntu 7.10?
[19:27] <Dreyffusz> corinth: dont bother much about it
[19:28] <zenobius> DanB: and a link for tvu?
[19:28] <zenobius> corinth: waht kind ati card
[19:28] <Jowi> sentano, I haven't tried either or them. In principal on x86 hardware, you do the same as on the dualboot setup (let grub boot the other OS's from their partition(s)). The partitioning is the most challenging part - deciding how much space each OS gets. You might need to set up an extended partition to handle more partitions then the first 4.
[19:28] <corinth> Dreyffusz: This is actually my friend's issue, he's near me. I ru ncompiz-fusion on an nvidia card, it runs flawlessly :-P
[19:28] <zenobius> corinth: check this xorg, it has mulitple possbile setups in it  http://pastebin.com/m71445617
[19:28] <gucci> hi
[19:28] <krammer> to check my system is it ok to run fsck?
[19:28] <zenobius> corinth: i have raedon 9660 and can run compiz in dualscreen
[19:29] <cornixx> zenobius: checking
[19:29] <gucci> ndiswrapper windows driver i cant find it help
[19:29] <sentano> Kasplatt: the dell ubuntu laptop or pc should be "safe" http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[19:29] <gucci> ndiswrapper windows driver i cant find it help
[19:29] <Jowi> sentano, since you have linux root + home + (I guess a swap partition) + XP, you want to create the extended partition with some thought.
[19:29] <gucci> ndiswrapper windows driver i cant find it help
[19:29] <zenobius> cornixx: not my file, cant remember where i got it
[19:30] <DanB> tvunetworks.com
[19:30] <Strel> HOW CAN I WACH SATELITE TV UNDER UBUNTU 7.10?
[19:30] <Jowi> sentano, that is, if you have only one disk
[19:30] <Kasplatt> sentano: what video card does it have ?
[19:30] <shadowhywind> how would one change eth1 to eth0 ? any ideas?
[19:30] <zenobius> gucci: ive fallne over and i cant get up, check help.ubuntu.com/community then check out something called mediubuntu
[19:30] <gucci> help help
[19:30] <r-wolf> gucci: apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[19:30] <nucularbum> i know i'm posting this like the 3rd time but i'm assuming people just missed it. i'm trying to connect to a network printer. what am i supposed to write in the "location" box in the printer properties dialogue? as i already put its location and sharing name in the connection tab
[19:31] <zenobius> Strel: kek....
[19:31] <wols_> shadowhywind: do you have a eth0 already in your system?
[19:31] <gucci> i installd ndis-common-gtk utils
[19:31] <shadowhywind> Nope,
[19:31] <cornixx> zenobius: I understand exactly nil of it :D
[19:31] <wols_> shadowhywind: then it's udev renaming stuff. look in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[19:31] <cornixx> I'd like a decent GUI for all that stuff :(
[19:31] <zenobius> cornixx: can you pastebin your xorg file?
[19:31] <SniZ> hi, i download latest NVIDIA drivers for my video card, then i install it, and after configuring my x11 configs, i get this: ailed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and...........
[19:31] <Strel> HOW CAN I WACH SATELITE TV UNDER UBUNTU 7.10?
[19:31] <lassesandberg42> got a very simple question here.. i installed totem-xine via the synaptic.. but how do i turn on so its uses opengl to play video?
[19:32] <wols_> SniZ: what nvidia card do you have and what's wrong with the ubuntu nvidia drivers?
[19:32] <cornixx> zenobius: I already did earlier, let me find it
[19:32] <shadowhywind> wols_ thanks, now would there be an issue beacuase there is a eth0 line in network/interfaces
[19:32] <Jowi> Strel, no need to shout. if someone know the answer you will get a response anyway.
[19:32] <zenobius> Strel: i think your leaning on your capslock key
[19:32] <Kasplatt> sentano: I want something that's able to play games  .
[19:32] <wols_> shadowhywind: no
[19:32] <mar0> I have installed the required codecs, graphic-card drivers, plug-ins etc. but I can't get videos to be shown on my webbrowser. Any ideas? Firefox freezes also and I have checked out the forums but couldn't find anything usefull. How can I fix that?
[19:32] <SniZ> wols_, i have 6200 card
[19:32] <sentano> Kasplatt: This one is also quite informative http://mcelrath.org/laptops.html
[19:32] <wols_> !nvidia | SniZ
[19:32] <ubotu> SniZ: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:32] <corinth> zenobius: It's a Ati Radeon X1200 series
[19:32] <cornixx> zenobius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50523/
[19:32] <wols_> SniZ: so use the ubuntu provided drivers
[19:33] <DanB> now the other question i have is now my video is very jerky
[19:33] <SniZ> wols_, i know, but in reporitories are old drivers....
[19:33] <DanB> wasnt like that with windows
[19:33] <shadowhywind> wols_ what would i be looking for in udev/rules.d?
[19:33] <zenobius> corinth: ok firs you need to goto the ati site and look for the ati drivers and cehck if your friends card *exact model* is supported
[19:33] <rodolfo_> nickrud: whats the difference between firefox and iceweasel? some linux distros have iw instead of ff installed...
[19:33] <krazytekn0> lassesandberg42: did you get your video drivers working after upgrading?
[19:33] <zenobius> rodolfo_: faster
[19:33] <Strel> it seems that nobody knows
[19:33] <lassesandberg42> Hi krazytekn0... yeah i got everything working. thanks alot for the help
[19:33] <krammer> to check my system is it ok to run fsck?
[19:33] <Strel> ok, i'm leaving
[19:34] <zenobius> rodolfo_: woops not ... has diff branding
[19:34] <wols_> zenobius: he does not need to go to ati.com for ANY drivers
[19:34] <Jowi> rodolfo_, iceweasel is the full mozilla suite that was dropped by mozilla.
[19:34] <Nrbelex2> Hi,  I'm trying to diagnose a wireless problem - when doing a tail and grep to the syslog for the NetworkManager, I usually get a string of several "old device 'wlan0' activating, won't change." and then it re-asks me for a WEP key. Any thoughts?
[19:34] <zenobius> wols_ take over then
[19:34] <kbrosnan> Jowi: no
[19:34] <atlef> !iceweasel
[19:34] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[19:34] <zenobius> Jowi: its not just a rebranded firefox?
[19:34] <atlef> yes
[19:34] <ssweeny> i thought iceweasel was the rebranded firefox without the copyrighted artwork
[19:35] <zenobius> jowi : due to firefox branding not being open to change
[19:35] <kbrosnan> Jowi: seamonkey and iceape are the same
[19:35] <krammer> nrbelex2 is there a wep set?
[19:35] <mar0> I have installed the required codecs, graphic-card drivers, plug-ins etc. but I can't get videos to be shown on my webbrowser. Any ideas? Firefox freezes also and I have checked out the forums but couldn't find anything usefull. How can I fix that? The "flash player" is there but it doesnt play anything.
[19:35] <wols_> ssweeny: it is
[19:35] <rodolfo_> Jowi: and both browsers have this flash plugin issue? my ff 2.0.0.11 crashes when i (try to) join youtube...
[19:35] <Nrbelex2> krammer, you mean a WEP key? yes
[19:35] <Kasplatt> sentano: R3 looks interesting .
[19:35] <Jowi> kbrosnan, I stand corrected. was thinking of seamonkey
[19:35] <krammer> do you enter the key?
[19:35] <krammer> did
[19:35] <Nrbelex2> indeed
[19:36] <ADminS> !ati
[19:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:36] <kyleBAKED> does anyone know why i get choppy and laggy sound in urbanterror (and just about any other game) ?
[19:36] <hdevalence> How do I adjust the reolution of the console?
[19:37] <Kasplatt> sentano: lol nvm
[19:37] <sentano> Jowi: Thank you :)
[19:37] <zenobius> DanB: it peforms like that in windows becuase microsfo and hardware vendors have a vested interest in selling, promoting and support ing windows...not linux
[19:37] <Jowi> hdevalence, one way to do it is by setting the framebuffer resolution
[19:37] <zenobius> DanB: its amiracle we can do waht we can
[19:37] <Jowi> !framebuffer | hdevalence
[19:37] <ubotu> hdevalence: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[19:38] <zenobius> DanB: having said that, waht video player are you using?
[19:38] <mar0> no one can say anything about my problem above?
[19:38] <rodolfo_> Jowi: you said iceweasel was dropped by mozilla. so does it mean that iceweasel is now discontinued?
[19:38] <Cromag> !flash
[19:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:38] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:38] <Jowi> rodolfo_, I was thinking of seamonkey
[19:39] <Jowi> rodolfo_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey
[19:39] <rodolfo_> Jowi: what browser do you use?
[19:39] <jaggy> how do i play dvd's whit mplayer ? i think i miss some codecs but idk wich ones
[19:40] <hdevalence> Jowi: how do I calculate those values?
[19:40] <Jowi> rodolfo_, firefox (not the new beta since the spellchecker does not yet contain all the dictionaries I need)
[19:40] <cornixx> zenobius: any idea?
[19:40] <Jowi> hdevalence, you don't need to. look at the table at the bottom of the page.
[19:40] <kitche> !dvd | jaggy
[19:40] <ubotu> jaggy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:41] <hdevalence> Jowi: what if the resolution I want isn't on that table?
[19:41] <rodolfo_> Jowi: have you ever experienced crashes on flash-based websites?
[19:41] <zenobius> cornixx: ohj you using the one i put up? think youy have to change some commented line at the bottom, in serverLayout
[19:41] <zenobius> cornixx: 1 sec
[19:41] <Jowi> rodolfo_, yes. latest flash from adobe and still using Feisty seemed to resolve that for me.
[19:41] <krammer> to check my system is it ok to run fsck?
[19:41] <DanB> what video decoder do i need to watch quicktime video
[19:42] <cornixx> zenobius: No, but you asked me to pastebin my file :D
[19:42] <Jowi> hdevalence, there might be a better table elsewhere. which reso do you need?
[19:42] <winkerbean> Hi!  I have 7.04 and I'm trying to mount a windows partition with read/write permissions.  I tried the usual mount commands and checked the FAQ, but cannot seem to get the read write permissions (even for root).  Any thoughts?
[19:42] <zenobius> cornixx: kek its the same as mine
[19:42] <hdevalence> Jowi: I'm looking for 1440x900
[19:42] <zenobius> cornixx: funny
[19:42] <tribaldata> krammer: for checking you disk it's pefect
[19:42] <krammer> type disk in the terminal?
[19:42] <hdevalence> Jowi: I son't care about colour depth
[19:43] <thht> winkerbean: you need an apropriate driver
[19:43] <cornixx> zenobius: sure you're using my link? :D
[19:43] <tribaldata> !fsck | krammer
[19:43] <ubotu> krammer: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[19:43] <zenobius> winkerbean: i think you need ntfs3g
[19:43] <cornixx> zenobius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50523/
[19:43] <moab_> what is the correct method for installing libdvdcss on ubuntu 7.10?
[19:43] <rodolfo_> Jowi: no offense but i wouldnt call a downgrade a fix for this problem. ppl using Ubuntu Gutsy are still waiting for the fix...
[19:43] <krammer> ty
[19:43] <tribaldata> krammer: np
[19:43] <zenobius> cornixx: ugh, omg damn ubuntu cliboard or lack of
[19:43] <endo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4058483
[19:43] <thht> winkerbean: as far as i know ntfs3g is standart in 7.10 ...
[19:44] <endo> help
[19:44] <cornixx> zenobius: hehe :D
[19:44] <MenZa> It is, thht.
[19:44] <DanB> what decoder do i need for quicktime video
[19:44] <Nrbelex2> My wireless card never gets pst stage 2 of 5 while connecting to any type of network - any thoughts?
[19:44] <winkerbean> zenobius: (and thht) Thanks!  I'll give it a try!
[19:44] <MenZa> !quicktime | DanB
[19:44] <ubotu> DanB: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:44] <Jowi> rodolfo_, can't say anything about that. I'm a slow upgrader. I stayed with Edgy until a couple of months ago.
[19:44] <NemesisD> is /etc/rc.local run with root/sudo privs?
[19:44] <nownot> people in #php are always douches
[19:44] <sluimers> Hello, 1) How do I change an empty fat32 external HDD to an ntfs? 2) It just fell off the coffee table, 40 cm's high, is that enough to destroy the external HDD? I can't find it anymore, lsusb shows nothing.
[19:44] <moab_> !libdvdcss
[19:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:45] <danfg> what is the tinyest program i can use to queue up and send out e-mail? i tried ssmtp, but it has no mail queue. i don't want ssmtp holding up mongrel processes just to finish sending out an e-mail
[19:45] <Jowi> rodolfo_, I usually wait 6 months after release before upgrading. most major bugs have been fixed by then...
[19:45] <tribaldata> sluimers: it might be enough
[19:45] <zenobius> cornixx: are you using gutsy?
[19:45] <sluimers> tribaldata, nooooooooooo :(
[19:45] <cornixx> zenobius: yes
[19:45] <zenobius> cornixx: or flgrx?
[19:45] <teddy__> Hi, I just added a variable in /etc/environment. But when I re-open a shell and I type printenv VAR the variable is now shown. I have to restart the system for the change to be seen. Is there a way to restart only the environment variables without having to restart the system?
[19:45] <sluimers> tribaldata, I just got it.
[19:45] <tribaldata> sluimers: your system does not recognize him anymore
[19:45] <vee_> hello all
[19:45] <sluimers> tribaldata, yah
[19:45] <Jowi> hdevalence, does your BIOS support that framebuffer resolution?
[19:45] <zenobius> cornixx: ok sorry cant help, i went back to fesity to get my results
[19:45] <stevie> hey all, does glipper 1.01 work in your systems? im using gutsy and as it seems the app doesnt start when clicking on it
[19:45] <rodolfo_> Jowi: well Hardy is on its way....it didnt cross your mind to upgrade to Gutsy by now...?
[19:46] <cornixx> zenobius: :(
[19:46] <isaac_> Is it possible to view a VNC server on a different tty, like tty6? (Ctrl + Alt + F6)
[19:46] <hdevalence> Jowi: I don't know, but that's what I use X at.
[19:46] <Jowi> rodolfo_, nope. everything works fine here :)
[19:46] <mar0> !flash
[19:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:46] <tribaldata> sluimers: on reboot does your bios see the HD ?
[19:46] <zenobius> cornixx: tell me bout it , feel like angry mob justie on the ati building...
[19:46] <bob__> how do I install software
[19:46] <cornixx> all I want is my 1680 resolution :(
[19:46] <rodolfo_> Jowi: i think your right. btw things working perfectly is what really matters
[19:46] <sluimers> tribaldata, haven't tried it yet
[19:47] <sluimers> tribaldata, will do
[19:47] <zenobius> cornixx: right now i need a new vga cable so ican have my second screen back
[19:47] <stevie> bob__,  with synaptics or add/remove software in the application menu
[19:47] <winkerbean> zenobius: do I need to restart after I install the driver?
[19:47] <piet> hi all
[19:48] <piet> i have a question if anyone can answer for me
[19:48] <stevie> hi piet
[19:48] <piet> is there a way that i can change the language from english to Dutch on here
[19:48] <piet> hey stevie
[19:48] <tribaldata> piet: you mean on this chat ?
[19:48] <Jowi> hdevalence, which graphic card do you use?
[19:48] <piet> sorry no
[19:48] <bob__> stevie: thank you
[19:48] <zenobius> bob__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[19:48] <piet> i mean on the acutal desktop
[19:48] <piet> i speak dutch
[19:49] <piet> its easier
[19:49] <MenZa> piet: System -> Preferences -> Languages
[19:49] <MenZa> or something
[19:49] <zenobius> winkerbean: with ntfs3g yes becuase its akernel module nad the kernel only reload on startup
[19:49] <hdevalence> Jowi: Intel X3100 (G965)
[19:49] <alex314> Hi, is it anyone who knows if you can set the transparency settings under General Options in the Compiz Fusion control panel for one single program?
[19:49] <IKE> is there anyway to get a psp usb working on ubuntu
[19:49] <profanephobia> piet, amdinistration -> language support
[19:49] <olaff> so is ubuntu mobile ready?
[19:49] <MenZa> !psp | IKE
[19:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <MenZa> hmm
[19:49] <MenZa> !mobile | olaff
[19:49] <ubotu> olaff: Learn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
[19:49] <rodolfo_> piet: press F2 on Ubuntu live cd main menu and then change the language...
[19:49] <Karyom> Hi
[19:49] <zenobius> alex314: you need compizconfig-configurator
[19:49] <tribaldata> piet:
[19:49] <tribaldata> piet: check system->administration->language support
[19:49] <tribaldata> you should be able to set it there
[19:49] <IKE> so is there a way?
[19:49] <stevie> alex314, you can do that manually
[19:49] <rodolfo_> piet: i dont know if you can change the language, once ubuntu is ALREADY installed...
[19:49] <vee_> Could anyone help me with a partition decision?
[19:50] <piet> oh
[19:50] <piet> ok
[19:50] <IKE> since your bot failed at it
[19:50] <zenobius> alex314: you need compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:50] <olaff> thanks MenZa:
[19:50] <stevie> hover over the window bar press ALT and use the mouse wheel
[19:50] <MenZa> !anyone | vee_
[19:50] <ubotu> vee_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:50] <piet> i am checking lang support right now
[19:50] <Karyom> Did anyone get the Awant Window Manager (AWN) to run??!
[19:50] <piet> and its installing something
[19:50] <vee_> thanx... I want to setup my machine as a remote file server and a LAMP test box - I was wondering how much space should I leave for the system partition (7.1 server)?
[19:50] <MenZa> !getdeb | Karyom
[19:50] <stevie> piet, yep thats okay, its installing the language support files
[19:50] <MenZa> vee_: How big a drive do you have?
[19:50] <IKE> i searched for psp there and it came up with pdf
[19:50] <vee_> 500
[19:50] <piet> ok
[19:50] <zenobius> stevie: that only works until you quit eh app, run it a gain and its back to smae alpha level
[19:50] <profanephobia> Karyom, it runs great for me
[19:50] <IKE> doesnt anyone know how to get a psp working on ubuntu?
[19:50] <MenZa> vee_: 30 gig /, 470 gig /home
[19:50] <Karyom> you mean over a Debian pacjage?
[19:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:51] <MenZa> o_O
[19:51] <vee_> MenZa ... good stuf
[19:51] <stevie> zenobius,  ah okay, i thought it should be only temporarily
[19:51] <Karyom> I followed the install instructions but it doesnt start
[19:51] <piet> so when its installed the new packages, can i change the gui to be in ductch
[19:51] <piet> dutch
[19:51] <profanephobia> Karyom, does it give an error?
[19:51] <zenobius> alex314: compizconfig-settings-manager & some extra plugins...then im pretty sure you can specify waht to do with waht window, failing that look at devilspie
[19:51] <Karyom> yes
[19:51] <piet> what if i make a new login
[19:52] <profanephobia> Karyom, ... that being?
[19:52] <piet> that is in dutch
[19:52] <IKE> doesnt anyone know how to get a psp working on ubuntu?
[19:52] <piet> a new user
[19:52] <profanephobia> piet, first see if this gives you want you need
[19:52] <zenobius> IKE you mean a playstation portable?
[19:52] <IKE> yes
[19:52] <piet> it does
[19:52] <piet> i have dutch installed
[19:52] <vee_> MenZa .... if down the line i neeed to reinstall the os i can mount /home and not loose the data on it - right?
[19:52] <Karyom> raise "\nKey: "+key+" isn't set
[19:52] <IKE> the usb doesnt get recognized
[19:52] <zenobius> have you looked at rockbox or ipodlinux to see if they have links?
[19:52] <IKE> and im using PSP firmware 3.71 M33-4
[19:52] <stevie> zenobius, btw, i installed this package but when i start the app "GL Desktop" to put the fusion-icon in the tray, i always have to start it twice until it "GL Desktop" open
[19:53] <stevie> is that a common issue?
[19:53] <IKE> can you give me a link?
[19:53] <piet> thank you guys....im going to try it now.  HAPPY NEW YEAR.  and thanks again
[19:53] <IKE> ty you 2
[19:53] <zenobius> stevie: im using amaranths compiz so i avoid that tool
[19:53] <IKE> and he leaves :/
[19:53] <MenZa> vee_: that's the point. :)
[19:53] <Karyom> did you install it over txfamily Server?
[19:53] <alex314> what is compizconfig-configurator?
[19:53] <profanephobia> IKE, i dont think ubuntu on a PSP is possible thus far
[19:53] <vee_> MenZa hehehe
[19:54] <zenobius> stevie: ive always found it bugy anyway and preferred compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:54] <stevie> ah, never heard of that
[19:54] <stevie> indeed
[19:54] <IKE> if hear of people doing it but
[19:54] <MenZa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PSP <- PSP support.
[19:54] <zenobius> stevie: google amarant compiz feisty
[19:54] <IKE> ill check that out
[19:54] <stevie> on it
[19:54] <zenobius> stevie: amaranth*
[19:54] <linduxed> if i have a begginners amount of experience of java and visual basic, and i want to get into programming, what language should i choose?
[19:54] <MenZa> linduxed: Python is nice
[19:54] <profanephobia> IKE, well there it is.. i didnt even know it could be done yet :)
[19:55] <zenobius> IKE: hackaday.org
[19:55] <vee_> MenZa if i want my second harddrive to be available to all users should i make the mountpoint: /home/secondDrive ?
[19:55] <sluimers> tribaldata, still nothing
[19:55] <MenZa> vee_: er, just mount it in /media with the user flag
[19:55] <zenobius> vee_: no
[19:55] <IKE> well ive been there before
[19:55] <IKE> and it doesnt work
[19:55] <IKE> i even tried the trouble shoot
[19:55] <IKE> and checked the things
[19:55] <IKE> but its not recognized
[19:55] <IKE> and i see no icon
[19:55] <vee_> zenobius what do you suggest?
[19:55] <IKE> desktop or computer:///
[19:56] <tribaldata> sluimers: humm so nothing on BIOS ?
[19:56] <linduxed> MenZa: why python? i was recomended C and C++ once....
[19:56] <profanephobia> IKE, what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:56] <zenobius> vee_ : areyou using gutsy or feisty?
[19:56] <IKE> get my psp working on ubuntu
[19:56] <scguy318> linduxed: depends on what you're doing
[19:56] <vee_> zenobius server 7.10
[19:56] <MenZa> linduxed: Python is very useful for lots of purposes. I like it because it's simple, among other things. Again, depends what you wish to do.
[19:56] <sluimers> tribaldata, nope :(
[19:56] <zenobius> vee_: have you already put the harddrive in and connected cables?
[19:57] <dublpaws> does aptitude have a way to output a package list file? I have two machines, one with a bunch of packages - the other a fresh installation.  I'd like to cheat, and get the fresh machine up to snuff with the same packages.
[19:57] <sluimers> tribaldata, that means the external HD is dead, no?
[19:57] <tribaldata> sluimers: Does you disk make any sound when you power up the pc ?
[19:57] <vee_> zenobius i built the box and ready to install
[19:57] <vee_> zenobius everything works
[19:57] <IKE> zenobius, hackaday.org is one of those stupid unbought websites
[19:57] <mrdigital> where is modprobe.conf
[19:57] <sluimers> tribaldata, a light buzzing sound
[19:57] <zenobius> IKE: huh? lol
[19:57] <IKE> idk what their called
[19:58] <tribaldata> sluimers: no clicking ?
[19:58] <profanephobia> IKE, parked domain
[19:58] <IKE> yeah
[19:58] <linduxed> MenZa: basically i want to get into programming, and as my programming studies will ost likely not start in less than 5 months, ill need a language that i might have use of in everyday usage/coding...
[19:58] <zenobius> ike: www.hackaday.com
[19:58] <holst> has anyone here tried to install the vmware tuned Ubuntu JeOS alpha 2?
[19:58] <MenZa> linduxed: well, I can recommend Python.
[19:58] <zenobius> ike : very interesting site
[19:58] <linduxed> MenZa: ill try it then
[19:58] <holst> I cannot get the installation program to complete because it complains about missing deb's
[19:58] <MenZa> linduxed: http://python.org. :)
[19:58] <stevie> zenobius, ahh i see, but thats for 7.04 only right? im running 7.10 which has the same packages i think (?)
[19:58] <zenobius> vee_: ok so when you type sudo fdisk -l in a term do you see your new drive?
[19:59] <IKE> i use that site alot
[19:59] <sluimers> tribaldata, no, no clicking
[19:59] <IKE> and i searched ther and nothing comes up
[19:59] <Gamefire^> hallo
[19:59] <sluimers> tribaldata, just burrrrrrrrrrrr.... ur... burrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[19:59] <tribaldata> sluimers: i would personnally test it on another machine to confirm that he is in fact dead
[19:59] <stevie> hi Gamefire^
[19:59] <zenobius> stevie: yeah, im using fesity over gutsy  because its only way io can get round stupid xrandr
[19:59] <sluimers> tribaldata, not the good kind imo though
[19:59] <melkor> Does anybody know how to make xchat auto accept dcc offers, I have it set in preferences but I still have to type /dcc get nickname
[19:59] <Gamefire^> kann mir ma eben jmd. helfen?
[20:00] <sluimers> tribaldata, did that, no response
[20:00] <Gamefire^> ich hab unter Eingenschaften von meiner Externen den mountpunkt verstellt
[20:00] <vee_> zenobius yes I have everything installed but i never partioned each drive and would like to reinstall the right way.... never put swap and didnt make a sep. partition for home....
[20:00] <Gamefire^> un nu hab ich n Prob
[20:00] <tribaldata> sluimers: from what you telling then i would confirm the HD dead
[20:00] <tribaldata> :(
[20:00] <Gamefire^> wie mach ichs rückgängig?
[20:00] <zenobius> im very keen to drop my computer in a fish tank of mineral oil
[20:00] <vee_> zenobius just have / and /media/second
[20:00] <sluimers> tribaldata, I just can't believe I haven't even used it yet and now it's dead
[20:00] <zenobius> damn these fans are driving me nuts
[20:00] <tribaldata> sluimers: then you should have warranty
[20:00] <tribaldata>  :)
[20:00] <[Sea]> Hello all, I have a problem: After setting up nvidia twinview if I open eg. Pidgin or a kde window from screen 1 to screen 2 and close it, then when reopening it shows up at screen 1 again, not saving its closed screen position on screen 2. Any ideas?
[20:00] <stevie> zenobius,  uh i see, now that sucks heh
[20:01] <dublpaws> Gamefire^: #ubuntu-de bitte
[20:01] <zenobius> vee_: is the /media/second your new hd?
[20:01] <Gamefire^> thx
[20:01] <vee_> zenobius yes it is
[20:01] <Nrbelex2> I have a wireless issue where I can see networks but not connect. When doing a tail and grep to the syslog for the NetworkManager, I usually get a string of "old device 'wlan0' activating, won't change." and then it re-asks me for a WEP key... any thoughts?
[20:01] <zenobius> vee_: i assume not
[20:01] <stevie> zenobius, well i found out that not everything runs as round as it should :/
[20:01] <zenobius> vee_: well then...easier
[20:01] <mar0> !restricted
[20:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:01] <IKE> yay dmesg gives an error
[20:01] <IKE> that i have no clue what it means
[20:01] <vee_> zenobius yes i have two 500 hds... which i have access to
[20:02]  * Tribal_Away will be back, servers need reboot
[20:02] <zenobius> vee_: it seems your new hd is already mounted...
[20:02] <zenobius> vee_: did you create that mount? in /media/second?
[20:02] <vee_> zenobius yes.... but i wished to partition better for my reinstall.... yes i created that mount on the first install
[20:02] <ilor> hi guys, what would you recommend (packages-wise) for a lightweight X to be run in a virtual machine? (starting off with ubuntu jeos = no X)
[20:03] <[Sea]> Any sudgestions?
[20:03] <zenobius> vee_: ohhh kies i see...waht do you want to aim for
[20:03] <wols_> ilor: puppy linux or dsl
[20:03] <dmacnutt> http://krazihrz.myminicity.com/
[20:03] <wols_> !ops dmacnutt is a myminicity spammer
[20:04] <Jacen_> Hi
[20:04] <zenobius> vee_: i for examplle always use this setup: mainPartition(10gb)-for-mainSystem, homePartition(40-10000000gb)-for-mount-point[/home/*], swapPartition(2*systemRam)
[20:04] <DanB> thanks for the help,i'm starting to get the hang of this now
[20:04] <vee_> zenobius sorry for the confusion.... a remote file server AND a LAMP test box.. I want all users to have two common laces to share files (one residing a the first physical HD andone on the second)
[20:04] <ilor> wols_: I'd prefer to stick with ubuntu-jeos as a distro
[20:04] <white_eagle> how can I install ubuntustudio from ubuntu?
[20:04] <white_eagle> via apt?
[20:05] <[Sea]> Repost (Not spamming): Hello all, I have a problem: After setting up nvidia twinview if I open eg. Pidgin or a kde window from screen 1 to screen 2 and close it, then when reopening it shows up at screen 1 again, not saving its closed screen position on screen 2. Any ideas?
[20:05] <vee_> zenobius i have 4gbs of RAM
[20:05] <wols_> ilor: the distros I mentioned have special lightweight X
[20:05] <ilor> just looking for advice on how to install a reasonable window manager without getting hundreds of MBs of cruft
[20:05] <Jacen_> I just upgraded to 7.10 and now whenever I try to start up mplayer I get a Failed to open file message.
[20:05] <zenobius> vee_: 1gb swap is more than enough
[20:05] <vee_> zenobius thanx
[20:05] <white_eagle> how can I install ubuntustudio from ubuntu via apt?
[20:05] <wols_> ilor: use a low one likr one of the *box ones or go totally minimal with ratpoison or evilwm
[20:05] <zenobius> vee_: if you need to provide a dev enrioment, then you can setup apache to allow http://localLanAPacheServer/~usersHomeFolder
[20:06] <mar0> !flash
[20:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:06] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[20:06] <white_eagle> !ubuntustudio
[20:06] <zenobius> vee_: then you can set /var/www to also be on the same partition as /home
[20:06] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[20:06] <zenobius> so when you need to reinstall afterdisaster, your home and webroot will still be there
[20:06] <IKE> [75388.484000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 19, error -62
[20:06] <IKE> whats that mean?
[20:06] <vee_> zenobius  thats perfect
[20:06] <ilor> wols_: thanks
[20:07] <vee_> zenobius thats what i have been interested in knowing
[20:07] <zenobius> vee_: i ran a webgroup for a year doing jsut this
[20:07] <Jowi> [Sea], I think you can use devilspie for that
[20:08] <vee_> zenobius great stuff. lemme ask.... when they ftp it will bring them to thier home folder?
[20:08] <Jowi> !info devilspie
[20:08] <ubotu> devilspie: find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.2-1build1 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB
[20:08] <zenobius> vee_: you can have that setup like that, but you will need to configure it under the ftp server
[20:09] <vee_> zenobius ok
[20:09] <Jowi> [Sea], detailed howto here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749
[20:09] <Nrbelex2> !ndiswrapper
[20:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:09] <zenobius> vee_: but since the place was fighting me, i had to put up with leaving windwos machines in the room, so it meant using smaba
[20:09] <SpaminaCan> how can i format my exhd so its in fat32 and not ntfs so my ubuntu can write to it (keep in mind i no longer have windows...)
[20:09] <IKE> what does "[75388.484000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 19, error -62" mean
[20:09] <IKE> for my psp
[20:09] <IKE> on dmesg
[20:09] <[Sea]> Jowi, Thanks for the information and the link, I will try that
[20:10] <Karyom> Hello, Is there a Command to edit the Packet Sources Lsit over Terminal?
[20:10] <zenobius> IKE: is that your psp? or ipod or usb drive?
[20:10] <IKE> psp
[20:10] <vee_> zenobius is SAMBA a bad option for sharing? or just that theres better options out there?
[20:10] <Karyom> my Synaptic dont starts anymore, because of a failure in a souce
[20:10] <SpaminaCan> Karyom, yeah sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:10] <zenobius> IKE:  get a similar one for my ipod
[20:10] <SpaminaCan> :P
[20:10] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan FAT32 only supports up to 32 gigabyte partitions
[20:10] <IKE> is it cause im on M33?
[20:10] <zenobius> vee_: if you have to deal with windows machines then you have no other option
[20:10] <SpaminaCan> krazytekn0, FUDGE!!!!
[20:10] <SpaminaCan> what do i do then?
[20:10] <Karyom> Thanks!!
[20:10] <vee_> zenobius I have a mixed bag when it comes to sharing... this will mainly be used for backing up my os x machine
[20:11] <zenobius> vee_: but if you can get an all linux enviroment, then go for nfs
[20:11] <zenobius> osx support nfs
[20:11] <SpaminaCan> i have to use windows and linux on the drive.....
[20:11] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan, well, first question, do you have files on there that you need?
[20:11] <SpaminaCan> copying them right now ^_^
[20:11] <vee_> zenobius nfs stores info better
[20:11] <SpaminaCan> 9mins left ^_^
[20:11] <krazytekn0> And second question, do you need to be able to see the files with windows?
[20:11] <zenobius> vee_: microsoft have a nfs tool, but its not reliable
[20:11] <SpaminaCan> copying 90gb via usb :-\
[20:12] <zenobius> vee_: and its twice as fast than samba
[20:12] <IKE> zenobius,  do you know what that error means
[20:12] <krazytekn0> gross man, just gross
[20:12] <zenobius> IKE: not sure, but my ipod id fine
[20:12] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan do you need to access this drive with a windows box in the future?
[20:12] <SpaminaCan> krazytekn0, not true lol, i have a 80gb ipod that uses fat32 ^_^
[20:12] <IKE> do i get that error cuz im using a custom psp firmware?
[20:12] <SpaminaCan> yeah....
[20:12] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: just be glad your not on usb v1....copying 600mb is liek a 3hr job
[20:12] <vee_> zenobius unfortunately there are machines that need to run that.... mayeb sometime in the future.... for now im assuming the i should jjust pick ext 3 journeling
[20:13] <SpaminaCan> zenobius, what is this usb1 you speak of ^_^
[20:13] <zenobius> vee_: oh yeah ext2 for your drives but use nfs for netowrking if you can
[20:13] <SpaminaCan> i have a 32mb usb1 thumbdrive in my room lol
[20:13] <andu> care eshti din TM?
[20:13] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan, well if you're right then you don't need me. gparted is the easiest way to format
[20:13] <penguinguy1234> is there a way to boot from an iso image without burning it to a disk?
[20:13] <krazytekn0> "apt-get install gparted"
[20:13] <andu> care eshti din TM?
[20:13] <andu> care eshti din TM?
[20:14] <IKE> english andu
[20:14] <SpaminaCan> thanks i forgot about gparted ^_^
[20:14] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: its the first incarnation of the USB protocol .....its restricted to 12megbits a second....
[20:14] <hendrixski> I know I can edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst file... but I'm trying to advise a friend who's not comfortable with editing config files.  Is there a graphical tool that manages grub for you?
[20:14] <vee_> zenobius i will thanks.... you mean ext3 right instead for ext2
[20:14] <zenobius> vee_: yeah
[20:14] <vee_> zenobius just checking =)
[20:14] <SpaminaCan> i wish i had a firewire port on my laptop lol
[20:14] <HardDisk> penguinguy1234, boot from an iso image without burning yea, use a vmware :)
[20:14] <SpaminaCan> that would ROCK lol
[20:14] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: usb2 is actually faster
[20:14] <Nrbelex2> I have a wireless issue where I can see networks but not connect. When doing a tail and grep to the syslog for the NetworkManager, I usually get a string of "old device 'wlan0' activating, won't change." and then it re-asks me for a WEP key... any thoughts?
[20:14] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: or is it?
[20:15] <SpaminaCan> i thought usb was slower then firewire
[20:15] <danbhfive> anyone know about vte?
[20:15] <penguinguy1234> HardDisk: I meant to install ubuntu on the actual computer
[20:15] <HardDisk> penguinguy1234, yes you can do a PXE installation.
[20:15] <HardDisk> install over network
[20:15] <SoulChild> What do i need the linux-headers package for ?
[20:15] <krazytekn0> zenobius, it's only faster in theory, in reality firewire 400 is still faster than usb2 with big files. (at least for me)
[20:15] <pike_> Nrbelex2: does like sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid blah key 12344556; sudo dhclient  <-- work?
[20:15] <hendrixski> Is there a graphical GRUB utility that would manage /boot/grub/menu.lst for you?
[20:15] <SpaminaCan> i know a firewire drive spins faster ^_^
[20:15] <penguinguy1234> HardDisk: I suppose that works...
[20:15] <brobostigon> good evening
[20:15] <MikeH> if java isn't working in firefox for me, and I've installed jre1.2-mozilla-plugin
[20:16] <MikeH> what am I missing?
[20:16] <HardDisk> hendrixski, yes, startup-manager
[20:16] <danbhfive> MikeH install the sun-java plugin instead
[20:16] <zenobius> krazytekn0: interesting....maybe its the host/controller thingy that laggs it up
[20:16] <hendrixski> HardDisk, cool thanks
[20:16] <HardDisk> penguinguy1234, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[20:16] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: spins faster? lol
[20:16] <SpaminaCan> why does my computer lagg when copying files?
[20:17] <Nrbelex2> pike_ yes, I think so
[20:17] <brobostigon> i have started to learn python, and was wondering what people thought about it??
[20:17] <SpaminaCan> zenobius, firewire drivers read/write/spin faster then usb drivers ^_^
[20:17] <penguinguy1234> HardDisk: I know how to PXE install
[20:17] <HardDisk> SpaminaCan, check your harddrive.
[20:17] <danbhfive> python is cool, but this it ot
[20:17] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: funny , when i copy files to/from my ipod in windows, windows stops becoming a mutlitasking OS
[20:17] <hendrixski> HardDisk, I'm apt-cache searching for something like that and not finding it.. does it go by a different name?
[20:17] <Nrbelex2> pike_, although I'm not sure what constitutes "working"
[20:18] <krazytekn0> brobostigon python is a great language for learning about all kinds of programming
[20:18] <SpaminaCan> zenobius, who uses windows to put songs on windows?, there is gtk pod ^_^
[20:18] <roentgen> Anyone to recommend a file-manager (preferably Total Commander style)?
[20:19] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: when im playing wow, and yeah...it all goes downhill from there
[20:19] <brobostigon> roentgen: in cli mc is good
[20:19] <vee_> zenobius just so i have you clear. mount the second drive under /media/second or /home/second so that all users have access to it? i want to reinstall in a couple of minutes
[20:19] <MikeH> danbhfive, I'm grabbing sun-java6-jre
[20:19] <krazytekn0> roentgen mc
[20:19] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: mind you im not copyiong while playing
[20:19] <MikeH> that right?
[20:19] <SpaminaCan> wow...., how does wow work in linux?, just like in windows?
[20:19] <lgc> roentgen, gnome-commander?
[20:19] <IKE> what does "[75388.484000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 19, error -62" mean
[20:19] <SpaminaCan> or is windows still better for wow?
[20:19] <brobostigon> midnight commander
[20:19] <roentgen> lgc: gnome commander sounds interesting
[20:20] <roentgen> I need GUI apps
[20:20] <lgc> roentgen, it does all 'mc' does, but on a graphical interface.
[20:20] <zenobius> vee_: no ..always mount your drives under /media(which only gives access to you as the admin) then you provide folders under that (/media/secondDrive) to users
[20:20] <roentgen> mc is too awkward in shortcuts
[20:20] <hendrixski> SpaminaCan, not playing WOW is still better for your chances of getting laid :-p
[20:20] <hendrixski> SpaminaCan, but yes, it works just fine.... probably better than Vista because there's none of that bloat slowing your computer down
[20:21] <zenobius> vee_: so the drive at (/media/SecondDrive) and a fodler under that(/media/secondDrive/Share)
[20:21] <HardDisk> hendrix enable your repos, it's called startup-manager
[20:21] <vee_> zenobius thanks.... im gonna reinstall now..... let you know how its going... thanks for all your help so far- its been helpful
[20:21] <lgc> roentgen, mc is a classic. But one is too accustomed to GUIs nowadays...
[20:21] <SpaminaCan> hendrixski, who says wow cant get u laid :P
[20:21] <IKE> what does "[75388.484000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 19, error -62" mean
[20:21] <zenobius> vee_: make sure you add users to group that can read write tot hat folder
[20:21] <HardDisk> hendrixski, sorry startupmanager
[20:21] <brobostigon> i use mc all the time
[20:22] <vee_> zenobius ok
[20:22] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: running wow under linux depened on how powerful your system is
[20:22] <crazyduck2> I'm having a huge problem with my ubuntu. Yesterday it restarted, and since then, it hasn't been able to activate my KDE desktop at all and on my GNOME desktop all it shows is a GIANT mouse cursor.
[20:22] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: most people get good results, but i cant be stuffed and franly dont want to bloat my linux install with wine
[20:22] <roentgen> gnome-commander seems fast :)
[20:22] <SpaminaCan> 1.25gb of ram, 1.2ghz, enough space ^_^
[20:23] <drew_chicago> for dial-up I'm using Gnome PPP I noticed the timer runs two or three times faster than it should. Any ideas how to fix this?
[20:23] <hendrixski> SpaminaCan, popular wisdom says so.   But lke I said.  It works just fine with Codega from what I hear
[20:23] <krazytekn0> mc is one of the fastest easiest file managers ever, it just takes a little time to learn, but it's not even as hard as learning something like nano
[20:23] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: your cpu is only 1.2ghz?
[20:23] <hendrixski> HardDisk, I'll check my repos and try again
[20:23] <SpaminaCan> its a laptop...
[20:23] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: i have an amd athlon xp 1.8ghx with 1gb ddr233mhz ram....and wow is still not a t full settings in windows
[20:24] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: in wine, best i can get is 3fps
[20:24] <SpaminaCan> :-\
[20:24] <SpaminaCan> OW!!! lol
[20:24] <hendrixski> crazyduck2, that sounds serious, what did you do?
[20:24] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: in windows, best i get is about 30fps
[20:24] <crazyduck2> hendrixski, literally nothing. Just restarted.
[20:25] <Yv12345vY> crazyduck2, when you're at the login screen, can you select GNOME as the session?
[20:25] <Nrbelex2> How does one check what kernel they are using?
[20:25] <SpaminaCan> can i rename an hd in linux?, i know i can in windows ^_^
[20:25] <crazyduck2> Yv12345vY, yup, and it loads to a really oversized desktop with about a 4 inch red cursor that just moves around but doesn't click anything.
[20:25] <brobostigon> Nrbelex2: uname -r
[20:26] <Conny> Good evening. What filemanager to use, for finding duplicates in large folders (recursive laso) ?
[20:26] <ajmal> any body know how to install arch linux
[20:26] <Nrbelex2> brobostigon thanks
[20:26] <krazytekn0> crazyduck2 have you installed anything lately?
[20:26] <SpaminaCan> zeno i get 13-19 Frames/sec maybe that is why i stopped playing lol
[20:26] <crazyduck2> krazytekn0, not at all. I didn't even do an update yet.
[20:26] <brobostigon> ajmal: not the place to ask
[20:26] <lgc> SpaminaCan, would you settle for an entry point on your filesystem?
[20:27] <SpaminaCan> what do u mean lgc?
[20:27] <ajmal> i want to install corel draw 9 and also inpage 2.4 what should i do for its installation
[20:27] <zenobius> hendrixski: the question of getting laid only has relevance to those who are controlled by their homrones and not their brain
[20:27] <SpaminaCan> can i defrag linux?
[20:27] <axscode> click install
[20:27] <hendrixski> crazyduck2, have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver" yet?
[20:27] <Yv12345vY> SpaminaCan, there is no need to defrag in Linux.
[20:27] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: yes but not required
[20:27] <brobostigon> spaminacan: no need
[20:27] <zenobius> lol
[20:28] <zenobius> blam blam blam
[20:28] <corinth> I have a friend in an IM that has his wireless not working. It was fine last night, he didn't change anything, but it's not working today. Works fine on his Windows install. Any suggestions?
[20:28] <SpaminaCan> how do i defrag ^_^, its not required but could i hurt?
[20:28] <crazyduck2> hendrixski, yup, no luck.
[20:28] <lgc> SpaminaCan, you can, for example, make the "videos" dir and mount your partition to it through the fstab file.
[20:28] <elde1> Everytime i try to start Tremulous or Warsow it goes to a black screen.. i have audio but can see nothing.. it forces em to do a hard reboot. what am i doing worng?
[20:28] <ajmal> i want to install corel draw 9
[20:28] <SpaminaCan> how come i cant unmount my external hd?
[20:28] <ajmal> any body help me
[20:28] <axscode> ajmal: no problem, install it
[20:28] <Yv12345vY> corinth, right click on network manager in top right and make sure "Enable wireless" is selected.
[20:28] <hendrixski> crazyduck2, hhmm.  bizare.  It wouldn't just do that.  It had worked at one point though, right?
[20:28] <brobostigon> ajmal: google
[20:28] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: seriously you wont notice a diff if you do....i could drwa adiagram why its pontless and mostly you want to defrag because your used to windows flaying your bits and bytes
[20:29] <crazyduck2> I see a new error on the console where it shows everythings booting progress. It says /etc/rc.local: 14; newline expected.
[20:29] <SpaminaCan> when i try it remounts it saying i cant unmount it
[20:29] <ajmal> how axscod:
[20:29] <crazyduck2> Yup, hendrixski, it's been working wonderfully for about  4 months.
[20:29] <Nrbelex2> I'm trying to install an off-brand wireless USB adapter using ndiswrapper - is there a good guide anyone knows of?
[20:29] <SpaminaCan> can i defrag a fat32 partition from windwos?
[20:29] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: tell me again waht version of ubuntu your using? gutsy or fiesty?
[20:29] <hendrixski> SpaminaCan, yeah, defrag isn't required on solid operating systems like Mac and Linux
[20:29] <lgc> SpaminaCan, you must be doing something wrong.
[20:29] <axscode> click install
[20:29] <th0r> crazyduck2 you need to end the file rc.local with a carriage return
[20:29] <SpaminaCan> Fiesty gutsy HATES my laptop lol
[20:30] <th0r> crazyduck2 all scripts need to end on a blank line
[20:30] <SpaminaCan> i mean can i format my windows fat 32 partition from linux....***
[20:30] <Yv12345vY> Nrbelex2, if you have a Windows driver you just use ndiswrapper to point it to that driver, should be pretty straight forward.  Have you tried ndisgtk?
[20:30] <ajmal> how can i install corel draw 9. i am using ubuntu 7.04
[20:30] <crazyduck2> How would I edit it. VI and NANO won't even let me into it?
[20:30] <SpaminaCan> wifi, sound, my mouse all do not work in Gutsy but perfectly in Fiesty
[20:30] <SpaminaCan> ^_^
[20:30] <zenobius> hendrixski: OS has nothing to do with it....its about he filesystem and how data is written to the disk
[20:30] <axscode> ajmal join #ubuntu
[20:30] <lgc> SpaminaCan, yes, of course.
[20:30] <Nrbelex2> Yv12345vY, I'll give it a try, thanks
[20:30] <hendrixski> crazyduck2, and you haven't done anything, over those 4 months, that could have triggered this,  like accidently rewrite something in an /etc file
[20:30] <zenobius> hendrixski: but i can see how you would see that to be a OSthing
[20:30] <buzz-cp> does anyone know how to display special characters? see pic: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:31] <SpaminaCan> why does Gutsy hate me so much lol
[20:31] <ajmal> i have joined but no body help me axscode:
[20:31] <elde1> Everytime i open Tremulous or Warsow to play it. it goes to a black screen, i have audio... but can see nothing.
[20:31] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: because gutsy is buggy still
[20:31] <Yv12345vY> SpaminaCan, Gutsy hates me too but I like it anyways.
[20:31] <hendrixski> zenobius, *sigh.  but some operating systems use good filesystems, some operating systems are restricted to using crappy filesystems.
[20:31] <axscode> you have to wait..
[20:31] <pike_> SpaminaCan: you probably are in the dir id bet a umount -l /mountpoint would work but id make sure you arent in the dir
[20:31] <axscode> ajmal, is that corel for linux?
[20:31] <krazytekn0> axscode you realize he's here already and you're talking to him in this channel
[20:31] <krazytekn0> ??
[20:31] <brobostigon> gutsy is working ok for me, and i have a mac, an unsupported
[20:32] <SpaminaCan> i like gutsy but so much does not work..., why was it made a release if its so buggy?, and i tried umount.... still spins.......
[20:32] <crazyduck2> hendrixski, so sudo gedit /etc/rc.local/ and see if I can get in and just enter another blank line?
[20:32] <pike_> SpaminaCan: you tried lazy umount?
[20:32] <corinth> Yv12345vY: I only see "Enable networking", which is ticked
[20:32] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: so you can report bugs
[20:32] <buzz-cp> anyone know how to display special characters? http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:32] <Nrbelex2> Yv12345vY, where is ndisgtk?
[20:32] <SpaminaCan> zenobius, i thought that was what the tribe releases was for?
[20:32] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan, This is how ubuntu works, you want rock like stability use the latest LTS release instead of the latest testing release
[20:32] <SpaminaCan> i mean heck i mute my sound in gutsy and it still plays lol......
[20:32] <th0r> crazyduck2 you should be able to just delete it...a quote from my rc.local....# By default this script does nothing.
[20:32] <Yv12345vY> corinth, but does your friend have it?  You said it was another machine.
[20:32] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: and provide your input and suggestions...which you would have a hard time doing with and seeing hte results of with windows
[20:33] <hendrixski> crazyduck2, if it's in one of those rc files then it's out of my league.  I've not learned anything about them.  But if the error points you there, make sure you back everything up before you change it
[20:33] <corinth> Yv12345vY: Yeah, but he's right next to me.
[20:33] <SpaminaCan> *grins at vista*
[20:33] <hendrixski> if it doesn't work then reset it to the backup
[20:33] <glb10> hello everybody
[20:33] <SpaminaCan> one of my friends is a developer for ms and help coded vista....
[20:33] <th0r> crazyduck2 in a terminal type 'cat /etc/rc.local' and see what the file says
[20:33] <Yv12345vY> corinth, just making sure :-) What kind of a machine is it?
[20:33] <Yv12345vY> Nrbelex2, sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[20:33] <Eyemean> hi i got an unusual problem , firefox went mental one time so i uninstalled it then reinstalled and was fine. now for some reason when i seelct bookmarks tab it just comes up as a blank tab
[20:34] <krazytekn0> ajmal so are you having problems installing corel draw because I don't see any question in "I want to install corel draw"
[20:34] <stevie> i find the ntfs3g driver pretty slow compared to native windows speed. is it supposed to be slower or do i maybe haven an issue?
[20:34] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: how does he fell?
[20:34] <corinth> It's a desktop pc, running gutsy
[20:34] <glb10> is there someone that can help me with a bluetooth key
[20:34] <Eyemean> but i know they are there, cause wen i got to organize its there
[20:34] <SpaminaCan> zenobius, he uses windows xp still :)
[20:34] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: kek......
[20:34] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: thats saying something
[20:34] <corinth> Yv12345vY:  We can SEE the wireless network I thing, just not connect. Lol.
[20:34] <hendrixski> anyway, before zenobius corrects me on a few more facts, I gotta get back to work
[20:34] <hendrixski> later
[20:34] <Nrbelex2> Yv12345vY, couldn't find it
[20:34] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: can you ask him a question>
[20:35] <Eyemean> do i need to uninstall forfox or can i tell gutsy to just reinstall straight away/
[20:35] <Eyemean> ?
[20:35] <SpaminaCan> if i remember :)
[20:35] <zenobius> zenobius: tool late you actualy need to get a coffee
[20:35] <Nrbelex2> So how do I do it through the terminal, Yv12345vY? Is there a guide for Ubuntu?
[20:35] <Yv12345vY> corinth, I have a problem sometimes connecting to a known wireless network, I usually select another network and then go back to the one I want to connect to.  Can you try that?
[20:35] <Yv12345vY> Nrbelex2, try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[20:35] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: ask him if xp has better or wrse networking code than win2000
[20:35] <Nrbelex2> Yv12345vY, I don't have an internet connection...
[20:36] <glb10>  is there anyone that can help me with a bluetooth key
[20:36] <glb10>  is there anyone that can help me with a bluetooth key
[20:36] <IKE> [77019.620000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 26, error -62
[20:36] <IKE>  <--------------------------------------------------- what does that mean
[20:36] <krazytekn0> ajmal you don't want any help?
[20:36] <brobostigon> nrbelex2: if you have no internet, how are you talking too us??
[20:36] <Nrbelex2> brobostigon, a different PC
[20:37] <pike_> !cli | Nrbelex2
[20:37] <ubotu> Nrbelex2: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:37] <buzz-cp> IKE: dunno
[20:37] <SpaminaCan> he won't know that one..., he was hired after xp was released....
[20:37] <SpaminaCan> but ill still ask him
[20:37] <zenobius> IKE i found this from google : http://mhonarc.axis.se/dev-etrax/msg04098.html
[20:37] <Nrbelex2> pike_ I'm looking for a ndiswrapper guide...
[20:37] <zenobius> IKe i googled : 'usb 2-8: device not accepting address 26'
[20:37] <krazytekn0> IKE ask your question, if someone knows then they'll try to help
[20:37] <pike_> Nrbelex2: oh sorry :)
[20:37] <cornixx> zenobius: I GOT IT! YAYAYAYAY
[20:37] <echosa> anyone know why rhythmbox will suddenly not play audio files, will freeze (can't use menus, etc), but not give any errors (either in X or in console)?
[20:37] <Eyemean> is there a difference between the normal firefox, and the the firfox that came with gutsy?
[20:38] <brobostigon> nrbelex2: look on help.ubuntu.com
[20:38] <zenobius> cornixx: such joy
[20:38] <SniZ> hi, i install 2 weeks drivers for nvidia card from ubuntu repos, and use it , and today i download nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and install, but, i cannot startup X11, i get error like this: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! , i try use old drivers from ubuntu repos and i get same error :( what i do wrong?
[20:38] <tribaldata> cornixx: you got it working nice  :) good toknow you'll stay with us :)
[20:38] <Nrbelex2> brobostigon, hehe, thanks
[20:38] <SpaminaCan> i still cant get my ex hd to stop spinning after manually dismounting it :-/
[20:38] <cornixx> Just had to add a proper modeline to the monitor setting in the xorg.conf
[20:38] <bob__> I need some help with a dlinik dl-524 router. I can not seem to get throught it. I can connect directly to the cable modem fine..as I am right now
[20:39] <buzz-cp> anyone know how to display special characters? http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:39] <corinth> Yv12345vY: Trying it. Brb.
[20:39] <Yv> Sorry, wireless is being spotty today.
[20:39] <Yv> corinth, sounds good
[20:39] <IKE> that doesnt say anything
[20:39] <krazytekn0> SpaminaCan you need what we call in the IT field a BFH
[20:39] <IKE> its just people saying "i dont know what that means"
[20:39] <glb10> is there anyone that can help me with a bluetooth key
[20:39] <Yv> Nrbelex2, in terminal when you type in "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk" what message do you get back?
[20:40] <SpaminaCan> Big Fat Heater?
[20:40] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: huh?
[20:40] <cornixx> After 2 friggin days
[20:40] <SpaminaCan> what is a BFH?
[20:40] <cornixx> now I have to check if Konversation supports multiple servers
[20:40] <krazytekn0> Big F****** Hammer
[20:40] <zenobius> SpaminaCan: where youseeing that?
[20:40] <ikonia> krazytekn0: why use that sort of language ?
[20:40] <cornixx> Also: What is the suggested IRC prog for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <ikonia> krazytekn0: it's totally uncalled for
[20:40] <cornixx> I'm on Konversation atm
[20:40] <buzz-cp> anyone know how to display special characters? http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:40] <zenobius> cornixx: im using it
[20:41] <brobostigon> cornixx: i use pidgin
[20:41] <SniZ> hi, i install 2 weeks drivers for nvidia card from ubuntu repos, and use it , and today i download nvidia drivers from nvidia.com and install, but, i cannot startup X11, i get error like this: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! , i try use old drivers from ubuntu repos and i get same error :( what i do wrong?
[20:41] <kevo_tool> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 and all sound has a distinct crackling noise. The sound device is "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller." If anyone has had a similar problem or could direct me to a fix, I would appreciate it.
[20:41] <krazytekn0> ikonia i didn't know typing asterisks was uncalled for
[20:41] <SpaminaCan> krazytekn0, i have one ^_^, its a sledge hammer its in the corner i use it all the time when something stops working i hit it and it works again
[20:41] <corinth> Yv12345vY: We tried to connect to one of the other networks, wouldn't connect to any.
[20:41] <ikonia> krazytekn0: it is, becuase your staring out a bad word, try "not using the word"
[20:41] <cornixx> I don't like IRC on Pidgin
[20:41] <zenobius> cornixx: xchat-gnome
[20:41] <brobostigon> xchat
[20:41] <glb10> krazytekn0 could you help me with a bluetooth key
[20:41] <Yv> corinth, are these networks you know passwords to?
[20:41] <Nrbelex2> Yv, couldn't find packae
[20:41] <tribaldata> cornixx: console based irssi :)
[20:41] <cornixx> Ok, Konversation supports multiple Servers
[20:41] <shadowhywind_> hay all i have a fat32 partition on an external hdd, when i boot into a qtparted live cd to copy the entire partition to a different hardrive, It wont paste it. Any ideas?
[20:41] <cornixx> so I'm fine with it :D
[20:41] <Yv> Nrbelex2, which version of Ubuntu are you running again?
[20:41] <krazytekn0> glb10 probably not, I don't use bluetooth
[20:42] <zenobius> xchat gnome is the one that ubutu help support use to porvide live support
[20:42] <Nrbelex2> Gutsy, 7.10
[20:42] <zenobius> cornixx: konversation os kool
[20:42] <cornixx> lol :D
[20:42] <buzz-cp> anyone know how to display special characters? http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:42] <cornixx> MAN, it's such a friggin relief that I got it working finally
[20:42] <Eyemean> hi shoud Support for Gnome in Mozilla Firefox be installed?
[20:42] <MikeH> can someone give me something that'll unrar rar's
[20:42] <cornixx> I was close to wiping Ubuntu off my HD again
[20:43] <buzz-cp> rar -e filename
[20:43] <zenobius> cornixx: i actually noticed that kde is *alot* snappier than gnome these days....wha gives
[20:43] <buzz-cp> rar -e filename.rar
[20:43] <pike_> !unrar | MikeH
[20:43] <ubotu> MikeH: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:43] <Nrbelex2> Yv, Gutsy, 7.10
[20:43] <krazytekn0> ikonia, you'll notice I didn't ask you why, because I know why, certain people like getting offended at things, I don't care since I censored myself.
[20:43] <pike_> MikeH: use unrar not unrar-free
[20:43] <zenobius> MikeH: right click the rar file
[20:43] <ikonia> krazytekn0: I don't like getting offended at things, but I also don't appriciate uncalled for swearing or "pretend swearing"
[20:43] <glb10> please is there anyone can help me with bluetooth
[20:43] <Yv> Nrbelex2, try following the instructions on this page, I'm not sure why you're having problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[20:43] <IKE> what does this mean
[20:43] <IKE> [77019.620000] usb 2-8: device not accepting address 26, error -62
[20:43] <zenobius> MikeH: oh yeah sudo apt-get install rar
[20:43] <echosa> anyone know why rhythmbox will suddenly not play audio files, will freeze (can't use menus, etc), but not give any errors (either in X or in console)?
[20:44] <krazytekn0> ikonia humor is a part of life, deal with it
[20:44] <Nrbelex2> Yv, thanks
[20:44] <Yv> Nrbelex2, there are links there for you to download the debs from a website too
[20:44] <kevo_tool> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 and all sound has a distinct crackling noise. The sound device is "82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller." If anyone has had a similar problem or could direct me to a fix, I would appreciate it. I tried turning down the PCM volume but doing so does not help at all.
[20:44] <ikonia> krazytekn0: bad language is not a part of this channel. If you don't like it take it up in #ubuntu-ops "deal with it"
[20:44] <buzz-cp> anyone know how to display special characters? http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1430/weirdcharswy0.jpg
[20:44] <pike_> glb10: id recommend installing one of the graphical bluetooth tools. i dont know alot about it but kde has a pretty good tool i hear id search synaptic for kde bluetooth
[20:44] <bob__> ikonia: Jack here... :)  Have any luck with dlink routers?
[20:44] <Seveas> krazytekn0, ***** isn't censoring. Behave.
[20:44] <zenobius> ikonia is a bastion of good behaviour, respect that
[20:44] <Yv> Nrbelex2, also, have you tried going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager?  I got my wireless driver installed that way.
[20:45] <ikonia> bob__: dlink routers ?
[20:45] <bob__> yep
[20:45] <glb10> pike_ i ve onlt to install it?
[20:45] <Nrbelex2> Yv, yes, nothing needed :-(
[20:45] <ikonia> bob__: should I be doing something with them ?
[20:45] <co0lingFir3> i have a problem with ALSA since it does not select the proper track (http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/4/1/2/f_Unbenanntm_829d0c8.jpg)
[20:45] <bob__> I can connect direct to cable modem but not through the router
[20:45] <pike_> !bluetooth | glb10 may helo
[20:45] <ubotu> glb10 may helo: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:45] <Flannel> buzz-cp: Are you setup for UTF?
[20:45] <Nrbelex2> Yv, as I look in the included driver CD, it seems to be of the bcm43xx family
[20:45] <Nrbelex2> but I can't find the fwcutter package
[20:45] <glb10> i've already see it
[20:46] <Seveas> Nrbelex2, bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:46] <Seveas> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:46] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[20:46] <Yv> Nrbelex2, that's the one I have in a Dell laptop
[20:46] <bob__> ikonia: Yes, but the current nick is not regged
[20:46] <IKE> how do you get an external hdd working?
[20:46] <Yv> sounds like bcm43xx-fwcutter is good
[20:46] <Nrbelex2> Seveas, Yv, the package isn't on my system... wtf?
[20:46] <ikonia> bob__: ok, so what's the deal, you can connect through a modem but not the router ?
[20:46] <Yv> IKE, you plug it into the USB port and should work from there.
[20:46] <brobostigon> ike: just plug it in
[20:46] <olaff> whats the score with sharing files in a dual boot scenario?
[20:46] <ikonia> !wtf > yv
[20:47] <IKE> doesnt recognize it
[20:47] <newbie> hello, I would like to know if there is a live distribution designed specifically to scan for viruses a system?
[20:47] <bob__> yep.. really odd.. I cannot 192.168.0,1 into it either.
[20:47] <Seveas> Nrbelex2, best idea is to hook up a wired conenction temporarily to install it
[20:47] <Yv> Nrbelex2, you have to download it
[20:47] <ikonia> bob__: are you sure the router is using address range of 192 ?
[20:47] <bob__> other computers can get through just not this new one
[20:47] <ikonia> bob__: do you  get a dhcp address from it when you plug it in ?
[20:47] <glb10> pike_i ve already done it
[20:47] <Nrbelex2> Seveas, Yv, argh, I'll try, thanks
[20:47] <zenobius> olaff: the score is, you jigg on down to the groove master max at help.ubuntu.com/community and do a search for ntfs3g or fat32
[20:47] <ikonia> bob__: are you using cable or wirless
[20:47] <bob__> direct connect
[20:48] <bob__> no dhcp no irc nothing
[20:48] <yereth> hi guys
[20:48] <zenobius> IKE: try this
[20:48] <ikonia> bob__: so if you don't have dhcp requests running, how are you getting an IP ?
[20:48] <ikonia> bob__: are the other clients getting ip's from dhcp ?
[20:48] <zenobius> IKE : ope na term, and pplug in you r drive
[20:48] <yereth> since a while my fonts are extremely light of all the menus in KDE
[20:48] <zenobius> IKE: the ntype : sudo lsub
[20:48] <bob__> I am bypassing the router right now.
[20:48] <jdh6403> good afternoon everyone
[20:48] <IKE> uh
[20:48] <yereth> I changed the system fonts but that doesn't change a thing
[20:48] <kane77> how can I specify port for server in xchat?
[20:48] <ikonia> bob__: of course, hence why I can see you
[20:49] <IKE> too many typos
[20:49] <JoeThomas> Hi, I've always wondered if it's possible to change the actual font of an actual terminal, tty session not gnome-terminal, such as to a ttf font.
[20:49] <IKE> aterm?
[20:49] <Yv> IKE, what kind of a hard drive is it?  Could it be an NTFS drive that you had running on Windows?
[20:49] <bob__> ikonia: I dont know I have no access to them atm
[20:49] <zenobius> IKE: yeah gesticular dyslexia
[20:49] <IKE> fat
[20:49] <glb10> pike_ I ve already done it
[20:49] <ikonia> bob__: I guess that's what you've got to check
[20:49] <yereth> can barely read the menus not with the light-grey fonts.. any idea of where I could change that?
[20:49] <zenobius> IKE: open a terminal.
[20:49] <Dagaka>  newbie, best try something like PartPE: http://www.rlslog.net/
[20:49] <ikonia> bob__: or it's the things I'd be checking
[20:49] <buzz-cp> Flannel: I don't know if I am set up for UTF.  How can I find out?
[20:49] <Dagaka> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[20:49] <IKE> sudo: lsub: command not found
[20:49] <zenobius> IKE: then plug in your hdd( i assume its via usb)
[20:49] <bob__> check for dhcp in the ones that are working now?
[20:49] <aorthr33> anyone in here running multiple wifi cards - and can offer some help?
[20:49] <IKE> ok
[20:49] <bob__> ok.. let me try.. bbl
[20:50] <zenobius> IKE the n type : sudo lsusb
[20:50] <co0lingFir3> i have a problem with ALSA since it does not select the proper track. http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/4/1/2/f_Unbenanntm_829d0c8.jpg
[20:50] <yereth> guys, any idea where I can change font color, except for System Settings -> appearance ->> fonts?
[20:50] <pike_> glb10: bluetooth is not something ive messed with much sorry
[20:50] <IKE> it comes up with this
[20:50] <echosa> anyone know why rhythmbox will suddenly not play audio files, will freeze (can't use menus, etc), but not give any errors (either in X or in console)?
[20:50] <IKE> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[20:50] <IKE> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:0111 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[20:50] <IKE> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[20:50] <yereth> I mean, system wide in KDE
[20:50] <zenobius> IKE: do it again
[20:50] <zenobius> IKE : and again
[20:50] <yereth> echosa: because it wants you to start using Amarok ;
[20:51] <yereth> ;)
[20:51] <IKE> same after 2 times
[20:51] <Yv> IKE, type in dmesg and see what the last few lines say
[20:51] <ompaul> !paste | IKE
[20:51] <krazytekn0> (waiting for someone to lynch IKE for pasting 3 lines)
[20:51] <ubotu> IKE: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:51] <echosa> yereth: nice try ;)
[20:51]  * yereth <- innocent
[20:51] <krazytekn0> oh, ompaul hit it!
[20:51] <yereth> but seriously, anyone?
[20:51]  * echosa doubts that ;)
[20:51] <yereth> where do I change font colour if menu fonts in KDE show up really light?
[20:52] <glb10> Yv could you help me? I have a problem with a bluetooth key
[20:52] <zenobius> IKE: mmm for that to work for me, means my usb is on its way out
[20:53] <kevo_tool> Has anyone had crackling sound problems with Ubuntu?
[20:53] <IKE> what?
[20:53] <IKE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50531/
[20:53] <krazytekn0> glb10 have you even asked your question yet?
[20:53] <Seveas> kevo_tool, only when I play weird metal songs. Could be the music though
[20:53] <zenobius> IKE ,when i do the first lsub i hear my ipod whir up, then i do the second and i see my ipoid in lsusb
[20:53] <IKE> not for me
[20:53] <zenobius> IKE: shortly after it shows on desktop
[20:53] <Yv12345vY> glb10, sorry man, I barely use bluetooth
[20:54] <zenobius> IKE: ok next thing is to see about getting tuuid to be used to automount it
[20:54] <zenobius> IKE uuid*
[20:54] <IKE> what?
[20:54] <glb10> krazytekno I ve asked a question to you before
[20:54] <Seveas> kevo_tool, you may lose crackling whe you mute unneeded channels in alsamixer (m is the mute key)
[20:54] <zenobius> IKE uuid is like a unique id for the drive
[20:54] <IKE> sudo apt-get install uuid?
[20:54] <zenobius> IKe there is a page on wiki, but i think other avenues should be explored before you do that
[20:54] <zenobius> IKE no
[20:54] <jobe> hi, i messed up my xorg.conf file ad now i cant boot x server gui.   i mesed
[20:55] <zenobius> IKE its to do with things like fuser mount autofs and the fstab
[20:55] <krazytekn0> glb10 you asked me if I could help, but have you actually told this channel your problem yet?
[20:55] <Seveas> jobe, then put your backup back
[20:55] <jobe> i cant get to the terminal either whic i my big problem
[20:55] <krazytekn0> if you'd post your problem then maybe someone will figure it out
[20:55] <dublpaws> jobe are you using nvidia drivers?
[20:55] <jobe> ati
[20:55] <kevo_tool> Seveas: Only Front is unmuted.
[20:55] <krazytekn0> glb10 instead of "can someone help me"
[20:55] <echosa> jobe: why can't you get into a terminal?
[20:55] <IKE> what?
[20:55] <glb10> krazytekno  yes 3 or 4 times
[20:55] <ompaul> !nickspam > DreamThief (please get your client to log on as the nick you want to use in #ubuntu thanks)
[20:55] <Seveas> kevo_tool, pastebin the output of amixer
[20:55] <IKE> bash: fstab: command not found
[20:55] <jobe> if i can get to terminal i know how to fixit :S  i dont know why
[20:56] <eetfunk> i have a ubuntu server that's always freezing and i don't know why.  Is there a way for me to easily figure this out?
[20:56] <echosa> jobe: waht happens when you boot?
[20:56] <Yv12345vY> IKE, that's b/c fstab isn't a command
[20:56] <glb10> Krazytekno but nobody replayed me
[20:56] <th0r> jobe you can't boot into safe mode?
[20:56] <Seveas> eetfunk, look at /var/log/kern.log /var/log/messages etc
[20:56] <jobe> brb, gonna go get the exact readout where it freezes
[20:56] <jobe> at neighbours house :P
[20:56] <ompaul> glb10, now you have some attention please ask again
 IKE its to do with things like fuser mount autofs and the fstab
[20:56] <IKE> then can you translate what he said?
[20:56] <krazytekn0> glb10 well I don't see anywhere where you actually said what's going on with your bluetooth so it must have been before I got here, please let me know what's going on
[20:57] <glb10> ompaul i have a problem with a bluetooth key
[20:57] <Yv12345vY> IKE, he's saying your problem is complicated
[20:57] <corinth> Yv: Yeah, I know the passwords.
[20:57] <IKE> well can someone use remote desktop or something?
[20:57] <newbie> I would like to know if it is possible to make my current ubuntu installation as I have it configured into a live DVD?
[20:57] <ompaul> IKE, that is a very bad idea some random stranger then takes control of your machine
[20:57] <Yv12345vY> jobe, when you're booting, try going through the recovery option in GRUB which will dump you at command prompt as root
[20:57] <glb10> krazytekno I have a problem with a bluetooth key
[20:57] <krazytekn0> glb10 what is the problem with the bluetooth key, we're not psychic!
[20:58] <ompaul> and you don't know them from adam
[20:58] <kevo_tool> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/d2c2fdfb4
[20:58] <IKE> not if i set it for confirmation only
[20:58] <Guilty> Guys i need to get ubuntu linux but my download is so slow i wanna order it but i live in lebanon and in unknown side of lebanon so any ideas ??????
[20:58] <glb10> krazytekno i can't sent anything
[20:58] <IKE> wait
[20:58] <Xera> I have a Realtek HD audio on board sound card.. how do I get it working in Ubuntu? I'm not sure but I think the sound might just be really really quiet
[20:58] <silent_> I'm trying to boot off a usb, but my motherboard isn't detecting the boot sector correctly. I can boot by using the livecd 'boot from first disk' option. Does anyone know of a way to create a cd to exist permanently to jumpstart my usb stick?
[20:58] <IKE> be paitent
[20:58] <floatingredwagon> Hello everyone.  Just tried to install ubuntu, install appeared to go fine... Reboot, and it tells me "Cannot load Operating System".  Anyone have any ideas on what went wrong, and how to fix it?
[20:58] <Yv12345vY> Guilty, try bittorrent
[20:58] <Guilty> k
[20:59] <ikonia> floatingredwagon someone was having a simlar issue earlier
[20:59] <shadowhywind_> floatingredwagon your grub is messed up
[20:59] <glb10> krazytekno it said me that there is an error somewhere
[20:59] <whitehat> any idea why I am unable to run network-admin even though I supply root pass
[20:59] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: what machine is this on
[20:59] <cliebow> floyou might try tooo boot from live cd and check grub
[20:59] <floatingredwagon> custom box, Asus A8N32-SLI mobo, AMD FX processor.
[20:59] <ompaul> glb10, I know very little about bluetooth, however I know some resources
[20:59] <ikonia> whitehat: define unable to run, you've been in hear all day repearing that
[20:59] <ompaul> !bluetooth | glb10
[20:59] <krazytekn0> ok, glb10, I'm really trying but "it told me there is an error somewhere" is not enough to work on
[20:59] <ubotu> glb10: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:59] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: are you installing to any raid disks ?
[20:59] <jtholmes> can anyone tell me how i find out who in the Ubuntu org is responsible for gdm
[21:00] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: No raid.  Single SATA 500GB drive.
[21:00] <ikonia> jtholmes: look up the package on launchpad
[21:00] <zenobius> IKE is the HDD a usb device?
[21:00] <bense> what's a good graphical ftp client other than gftp anyone?
[21:00] <glb10> krazytekno now i write you the error
[21:00] <Xera> Hmm yeah, the volume is really really low even with it set to 100% in the volume control
[21:00] <IKE> yes
[21:00] <cliebow> jtholmes, jorge castro is upsteam liaison
[21:00] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: what I did with the other guy is check where the installer has got to. I suggest booting from the cdrom and mounting the disk manually to see what's on it
[21:00] <krazytekn0> bense almost any file manager is an FTP client
[21:00] <whitehat> ikonia: says "the configuration could not be loaded" "you are now allowed to access the system configuration"
[21:01] <jtholmes> cliebow how do i contact jorge castro
[21:01] <ikonia> whitehat: when you do in the terminal "sudo apt-get update" and it asks you for a password, does it then work
[21:01] <jtholmes> his email i mean
[21:01] <glb10> krzytekno programmation error...in the list
[21:01] <zenobius> hope noone asks how to mount an iphone
[21:01] <jdh6403> hehe
[21:01] <Yv12345vY> haha
[21:01] <Yv12345vY> zenobius, are you offering help??
[21:01] <Yv12345vY> kidding!
[21:01] <jdh6403> lol
[21:02] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: I think i was going for that same idea.  I'm in rescue terminal, opened a shell on the partition.  ls shows an expected root directory.
[21:02] <whitehat> ikonia: I don't have internet access on the laptop.trying to config wireless.but yes sudo does ask for password
[21:02] <cliebow> jtholmes, he is logged in #ltsp..otherwise launchpad
[21:02] <IKE> zenobius,  it is a usb why?
[21:02] <kevo_tool> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/d2c2fdfb4 (in case you missed the first one)
[21:02] <jdh6403> i have this toaster zenobius........and it wont accept sudo
[21:02] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: so it looks like grub's not installed if you have a full install on the disks
[21:02] <glb10> krazytekno could you help me
[21:02] <jtholmes> cliebow, thanks
[21:02] <ikonia> (which is good news)
[21:02] <cliebow> 8~)
[21:02] <ikonia> whitehat: and does it accept the pasword you give it
[21:02] <zenobius> IKE do you see your device in the out put of dmesg
[21:02] <whitehat> ikonia: yes
[21:02] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Good to hear.  How can i fix the Grub setup?
[21:03] <ompaul> !offtopic
[21:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:03] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: are you linux friendly or new ?
[21:03] <viamptor>  irc.freenode.net
[21:03] <whitehat> ikonia: I'm thinking it's a dbus thingy but not sure
[21:03] <ompaul> !grub | floatingredwagon
[21:03] <ubotu> floatingredwagon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:03] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: I know enough to be dangerous.  If install behaves, I can load a system, and keep it running.
[21:03] <ikonia> whitehat: why are you thinking it's anything to do with dbus ?
[21:03] <Yv12345vY> zenobius, <IKE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50531/
[21:03] <|kevin|> can anyone help setup rsync for a linux server?
[21:03] <IKE> yes i do zenobius  with an error
[21:03] <Ttech> Ah, I have a bit of an issue. When I run a firefox with the All In One Sidebar, but there is a strange link in the extnetion manager for "Get addons for Firefox" how do I remove that?
[21:03] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: good enough, ompaul has just given you a link, have a read through and see how confident you are with it
[21:04] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: if you have questions or your not certain come back and ask
[21:04] <pvl> how can i sync my clock with servers? i have the server set up but the clock is wrong
[21:04] <whitehat> ikonia: because I saw something in a wireless doc on the ubuntu site regarding that issue
[21:04] <Ryuki>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY green1608dragon
[21:04] <Yv12345vY> Ttech, right click and delete or go to bookmarks -> manage and delete from there
[21:04] <Ryuki> damn it
[21:04] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Will look into it!
[21:04] <Pici> Ryuki: I suggest you change your password now.
[21:04] <ompaul> Ryuki, change that now -
[21:04] <IKE> before i ghost it!
[21:04] <v3ctor> lol
[21:04] <Ryuki> how?
[21:04] <IKE> lol jk
[21:04] <IKE> /ns set password newpass
[21:05] <Ttech> Yv12345vY, its not a book mark!
[21:05] <Ttech> LOL
[21:05] <IKE> and no need to type out the long /msg nickserv
[21:05] <IKE> just use /ns id pass
[21:05] <whitehat> how do I change the security type from wep to wpa?
[21:05] <Ryuki> damn it :|
[21:05] <IKE> what?
[21:05] <Yv12345vY> Ttech, you're right, I misread it, sorry
[21:05] <ompaul> IKE, that is client specific but more clients are getting better and better at it
[21:05] <newbie> Dagaka, I did a google search for PartPE but couldn't find more info about it, could you tell me what is it about?, so I can know if this would help
[21:05] <Ryuki> got it
[21:05] <Ryuki> sorry.
[21:05] <IKE> ompaul, what?
[21:05] <Ryuki> :|
[21:06] <Ryuki> anyways....
[21:06] <ompaul> IKE, /cs /ns
[21:06] <IKE> oh
[21:06] <IKE> actually
[21:06] <Ryuki> How do I force thei nstallation
[21:06] <Nrbelex2> Yv12345vY, I have ndisgtk installed, do I point it to the .cat, .inf or .sys windows driver?
[21:06] <IKE> those are server aliases
[21:06] <IKE> just need to be specified in unrealircd.conf
[21:06] <IKE> if its unreal
[21:06] <IKE> and freenode isnt
[21:06] <Nrbelex2> Yv, nevermind...
[21:06] <Ryuki> Blah
[21:07] <Ttech> Hmm
[21:07] <tribaldata> Ryuki: installation of what ?
[21:07] <Dagaka> newbie: sorry my bad, its actually called BartPE > http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[21:07] <Ryuki> a rpm file
[21:07] <Ryuki> how do I force install it?
[21:07] <Flannel> buzz-cp: That's gnome terminal, right?  Go to the gnome-terminal options and I imagine there ought to be some option for character encoding.  I'm unsure as to where it is though.
[21:07] <Dagaka> newbie: I believe it is however unfortunately Windows based...
[21:07] <ompaul> !rpm | Ryuki
[21:07] <ubotu> Ryuki: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[21:08] <ompaul> !apt | Ryuki
[21:08] <ubotu> Ryuki: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[21:08] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Tried the instructions there.  Same error.  I just thought of something that might be causing issues though.
[21:08] <buzz-cp> Flannel: yes it is, but I also use xterm regularly
[21:08] <rjs> In /etc/fstab instead of using /dev/sdb1, root is identified with UUID=6b2407ba-3e28-47c0-ac5e-b05686c0cf23".  Where can I find the UUIDs for all the partitions?
[21:08] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: ok
[21:08] <Ryuki> But I need to install winetool
[21:08] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: This is going to sound really newbish, but... AMD FX chips DO support a 64 bit os....... right?
[21:08] <Ryuki> so I can uninstall Yahoo Messenger in here!
[21:08] <Nrbelex2> !alien
[21:08] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[21:08] <zenobius> IKE : check this : Navigate to "System" > "Preferences" > "Removable Drives and Media"
[21:08] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: sure yes
[21:08] <tribaldata> Ryuki: apt-get install wine
[21:08] <Ryuki> I know.
[21:08] <IKE> i already did
[21:08] <yereth> what was the fancy theme manager for KDE called again?
[21:08] <Ryuki> no no.
[21:09] <Ryuki> I did
[21:09] <IKE> mount when are all checked
[21:09] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: don't worry about sounding "newb" better to ask then think and get it wrong
[21:09] <Ryuki> but I installed YIM in wine
[21:09] <Ryuki> how do I uninstall YIM?
[21:09] <joha> How do I set my timezone in Ubuntu server? It is one hour early...
[21:09] <zenobius> IKE: okies
[21:09] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Just wanted to be sure.  I put on Ubuntu 64 bit, so wanted to check and see if that was why the OS wasn't loading.
[21:09] <ompaul> !enter | Ryuki
[21:09] <ubotu> Ryuki: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:09] <Xera> Can anyone help? I have a Gigabyte P35-DS3P, the audio is really quiet to the point that I have to put my speaker next to my ear to even slightly hear it.
[21:09] <Dagaka> newbie: have you thought about just sudo apt-get install clamav within the Ubuntu Live CD would that work?
[21:09] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: nope that should be fine
[21:09] <jobe> hi, im back now, had to write down everything that came up when i tried to boot. (im the guy who cant get into x server) and it wont go to terminal
[21:09] <Ryuki> Umm... sorry.
[21:09] <tribaldata> Ryuki: sorry not a big fan of wine anyone else could help ?
[21:09] <jobe> may i paste 4 lines?
[21:09] <DanB> could use some help installing a program Please
[21:09] <IKE> at the pastebin you can
[21:09] <ompaul> !paste | jobe
[21:09] <ubotu> jobe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:10] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Another idea - is there a maximum location on a hard drive that Grub can boot to? The first 250gb of that drive belong to windows at the moment...
[21:10] <Ryuki> but a lot of people is posting too many questions.
[21:10] <v3ctor> Ryuki: why not use seomthing like pidgin
[21:10] <Ryuki> I'm sorry.
[21:10] <Ryuki> I am using it
[21:10] <v3ctor> s/seomthing/something/
[21:10] <Ryuki> but I want to get the webcam working.
[21:10] <ompaul> Ryuki, you make a comment on one line it is easy for someone to follow and please stop with the enters
[21:10] <fjellREV1> Im trying to install ubuntu using a monitor tv but when I get to the live cd part the screen gets out of range,anyone know a solution?
[21:10] <jobe> bare with me i jut deleted it arghhhhhh.. :(
[21:10] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: not unless it's exceptionally old motherboard, which yours is not. As I happen to have a machine with the same board and cpu I know it works well also
[21:10] <ompaul> !webcam | Ryuki
[21:10] <ubotu> Ryuki: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:11] <Ryuki> sorry.
[21:11] <Dagaka> newbie: also worth a look SystemRescueCD: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page, Knoppix: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=104876
[21:11] <IKE> zenobius, any other ideas?
[21:11] <Ryuki> ok how do I remove YIM anyways? Anybody?
[21:11] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Just got another idea.  My system is a minefield of MBR's... I have a few physical drives, and more than one of them hosts an MBR (can't format them currently, critical data).  Let me disconnect all but one physical.
[21:11] <ompaul> !nickspam > tuxxxinator  (please get your client to log on as the nick you want to use in #ubuntu thanks)
[21:11] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: don't dissconnect
[21:12] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Nope.  IRC'ing on a neighboring laptop.
[21:12]  * ADminS is away: Arza3 ya SOPHOS and SAF
[21:12] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: grub works off the menu.lst file on a partition
[21:12] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: so if you change your disk layout you may break a grub install
[21:12] <DanB> cant get  tvu player to install
[21:12] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Ok.  Won't do that for now.
[21:12] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: what has most probably happened is grub has installed to the wrong disks boot sector
[21:12] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: a quick way to test is boot and interupt the boot and use the bios to test boot of each disk
[21:12] <zenobius> IKe : looking for a post i saw the other day
[21:13] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: F7 during boot with that mobo, right?
[21:13] <jobe> ok, after it tells me it cant go to x server and i so no to showing me output.  i get this... which is normal.
[21:13] <IKE> ok
[21:13] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: I think it's F12
[21:13] <jobe> *STARTING PERIODIC COMMAND SCHEDULER    [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> *ENABLING ADDITIONAL EXECUTABLE BINARY FORMATS    [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> *CHECKING BATTERY STATE     [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> *RUNNING LOCAL BOOT SCRIPTS     [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> *STARTING TIMIDITY    [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> *STARTING TIMIDITY++ ALSA MIDI EMULATION    [OK]
[21:13] <jobe> but then it hangs and goe nowhere
[21:13] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: thats it
[21:13] <jobe> just refuses to go to terminal :p
[21:13] <Nrbelex2> When I use ndisgtk, nothing shows up in the list of installed drivers after I point it to the .inf
[21:14] <IKE> lol
[21:14] <Ttech> Where does the ubufox plugin store its .jar file?
[21:14] <IKE> nice spasting he did
[21:14] <jobe> oh sry
[21:14] <ikonia> Ttech: ubufox ?
[21:14] <Ttech> ikonia, the firefox extension
[21:14] <DanB> anyone help with installing  tvu player
[21:14] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Are you running gutsy?
[21:14] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: Found it.  It did put the MBR on the wrong physical.
[21:14] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: super, ok thats a good start
[21:14] <Nrbelex2> juliank, 7.10
[21:15] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: so you just need to follow the guide ompaul gave you but install to the correct disk
[21:15] <Ryuki> I'm running Xubuntu
[21:15] <Ryuki> 7.10
[21:15] <ompaul> !grub | floatingredwagon
[21:15] <ubotu> floatingredwagon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:15] <Ryuki> Gah, sorry.
[21:15] <Ryuki> !force rpm
[21:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about force rpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <Dagaka> !alien
[21:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[21:16] <ompaul> Ryuki, you were told - so I guess you need to read it ^^ see that RPM item
[21:16] <jobe> so does anyone know a way i can get to terminal then? if i have the ubuntu cd
[21:16] <Ryuki> oh never mind.
[21:16] <Ttech> anyoen?
[21:16] <ikonia> jobe: boot from the cd
[21:16] <Ryuki> Umm.. then how do I uninstall YIM from wine?
[21:16] <juliank> Nrbelex2: It should work.  Is the driver listed in the output of 'ndiswrapper -l'?
[21:17] <Ryuki> I cannot go in C: and delete stuff.
[21:17] <ikonia> Ttech: repeating "anyone" won't get you anywhere, if someone saw the question and knows the answer they willl respond, if they missed the question then saying "anyone" won't tell them the question
[21:17] <jobe> ikonia, i cant get to terminal for myself. shows ubuntu@ubuntu# or something
[21:17] <Nrbelex2> juliank, no nothing comes up
[21:17] <jobe> and i cat mount my drive on live cd
[21:17] <echosa> jobe: can you not boot into safe mode? or alternatively, can you not use ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal?
[21:17] <ikonia> jobe: that's because thats your livecd user
[21:17] <ikonia> jobe: what happens when you try to mount your cdrom
[21:17] <ikonia> jobe: sorry your disk
[21:18] <Ttech> ikonia, yeesh. You were asking what it was I said and nothing.
[21:18] <jobe> just says unable to mount
[21:18] <ikonia> Ttech: I don't know the flash plugins
[21:18] <ikonia> jobe: it must say more than that
[21:18] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Are there spaces in the path of the driver?
[21:18] <jobe> hmmm.ctrl alt f1?
[21:18]  * Ryuki waits.
[21:18] <jobe> when do i pres that during boot?
[21:18] <aztechclan> sup guys!  any compiz-fusion junkies out there?  I seem to have lost my emerald-themes in gusty, and apt can't find the package anymore?  Was working fine in the past until one day I used metacity.
[21:18] <Ttech> ikonia, its not a flash plugin it integrates features iwth Firefox
[21:18] <ikonia> Ttech: sorry firefox plugin, I've never used it
[21:19] <echosa> jobe: no, after you're computer boots and everything is done loading
[21:19] <crdlb> aztechclan: there is no emerald-themes package in gutsy
[21:19] <tribaldata> !tty | jobe
[21:19] <ubotu> jobe: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[21:19] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: I may need a little hand holding to move Grub.  Can I PM you so we don't spam the channel?
[21:19] <Nrbelex2> juliank, not sure what you mean - I'm just browsing to the .inf using the GUI
[21:19] <zenobius> wow so glad i got a ipod video 30gb and not those new nuetered things that need jailbreak
[21:19] <jobe> echosa it doesnt load. x server doesnt load, and then it hangs on boot (doesnt take me to terminal)
[21:19] <aztechclan> crdlb: so I have emerald installed, but it doesn't display the window decorator (and no errors)
[21:19] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: yeah sure
[21:20] <crdlb> aztechclan: nvidia?
[21:20] <tomg_> hi, i get random lockups with ubuntu, only responds to a sysrq, i suspect its the intel xorg driver, but dont know how to debug....
[21:20] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: you've been more than patient and polite
[21:20] <aztechclan> crdlb: yep
[21:20] <echosa> jobe: you don't have to get in a terminal, per se.. when you say "hangs on boot" do you mean the entire computer freezes and nothing responds (keyboard, mouse, etc)
[21:20] <crdlb> aztechclan: join #compiz-fusion for a second please
[21:20] <cliebow> ikonia:as have you 8~)_
[21:21] <juliank> Nrbelex2: "Download a windows wireless driver, (wg311v2 for example) the directories structure have spaces (wg311v2/Drivers/Win XP/wg311v2.inf), if you choose it with the file chooser of ndisgtk, he ignore it because, if i rename the folder 'Win XP' to WinXP it work ..."  (Bug #133623)
[21:21] <vee_> has anyone ever had a monitor that wouldn't show POST but would show the login screen to ubuntu? i dont have this issue with my monitor at a diff. location
[21:21] <macd> vee_, yes, its an lcd tv.
[21:21] <zenobius> vee_: yes
[21:22] <jobe> echosa, no it shows a flashing line like its loading something. but doesnt except any input from me if you know what i mean
[21:22] <vee_> macd its not a tv but a 24" monitor
[21:22] <vee_> has to inputs
[21:22] <zenobius> vee_: is it your secondary screen?
[21:22] <tomg_> anyone?
[21:22] <Nrbelex2> juliank, not sure what you mean, I took this driver off the included CD and put it in a folder in my home folder
[21:22] <echosa> try booting into safe mode
[21:22] <vee_> for one computer but first for another
[21:22] <macd> vee_, chances are your video output is not compatible at a resolution it supports until later in the boot process, its totally normal.
[21:22] <floatingredwagon> iknoia: can't seem to get a message your way. ( <- fails at IRC )
[21:22] <levander> What's the maximum amount of memory 32-bit Linux can use?
[21:22] <tomg_> levander 4 gig
[21:22] <juliank> Nrbelex2: What's the name of the directory?
[21:23] <okeefenokee> Hi folks. I have a brand new installation of Gusty, and try to get my wlan up and running. Each and every time I configure the network settings (with the essid, wep-key, and so on) my system freezes. It kinda bugs me...and I don't really know where to start troubleshooting.
[21:23] <sparkybea1> to anyone: i heard the new ipods wernt supported in ubuntu, is this true? im thinking about buying one....
[21:23] <jobe> whats the usual command for safe mode again? "sry not experienced with pc" :S
[21:23] <jobe> f8?
[21:23] <ikonia> floatingredwagon: is your nick registered
[21:23] <vee_> macd that could be it.... guess i will have to install on the smaller monitor... unless theres a way around it
[21:23] <tomg_> can anyone help me with my lockup?
[21:23] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: likely not.  This has been a "download mirc, login to freenode" situation.
[21:23] <ijn> hi all
[21:23] <fjellREV1> vee_: im sitting with the same problem right now,i was gonna try the alternate cd.have you tried this?im a downloading myslef into a dead end?
[21:24] <ijn> what can I do to install flash
[21:24] <Nrbelex2> juliank, you were right
[21:24] <Nrbelex2> I renamed it - now it shows up
[21:24] <echosa> jobe: when your computer boots, ubuntu should give you boot choices, one of which is safe mode
[21:24] <Nrbelex2> Juniank, do I now restart?
[21:24] <macd> fjellREV1, if you cant see video at POST, then its not the OS, its the PC, and its normal for that to happen on todays higer resolution monitors.
[21:24] <vee_> fjellREV1 only happens with my large monitor... LCD
[21:24] <brobostigon> !flash | ijm
[21:24] <ubotu> ijm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:24] <floatingredwagon> ikonia: I am not registered, according to the main freenode channel.  How would I change that?
[21:25] <juliank> Nrbelex2: It should work without reboot.
[21:25] <ijn> anybody knows some good way without studing all those pages???
[21:25] <ijn> install adobe flash??
[21:25] <echosa> yereth: so much for amarok... I installed it, ran it, started adding my music, and at 99% it crashed and gave me a backtrace
[21:25] <macd> ijn, yes, read them.
[21:25] <fjellREV1> yeah,thoughts so but problem is that its the only screen atm and is a huge old monitor tv,didnt see the check for altnerate cd before now.this will work right? :)
[21:25] <jobe> echosa, it doesnt take me that far. just brings the error screen saying cant load x server ( i think the sscreen where you choose safe mode requires x server?
[21:25] <Nrbelex2> juliank, the network settings doesn't have any wireless options
[21:25] <yereth> echosa: :( with me it works fine
[21:25] <zenobius> ijn: knowledge is power ... knowledge gained without pain is useless
[21:25] <brobostigon> !flash | ijn
[21:25] <ubotu> ijn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:25] <yereth> echosa: something wrong with your system
[21:25] <ijn> MACD thnks I will
[21:25] <Nrbelex2> juliank, as if there is no device
[21:25] <ijn> :)
[21:26] <piglit> hello there i am experiencing a network problem 2 pc's directly connected to each other, i get a lot of link up and link down messages in my syslog, transferring data takes ages if it works at all and so i started to play around with the ethtool forced full duplex half duplex 100 Mbit etc. i dont know what to do next. There is one thing i found however: ethtool eth1 returns Supported ports: [ TP ]  on one pc and Supported ports: [ MII ] on t
[21:26] <piglit> he other .... but i dont know what i should do with these settings can annyone please help me out?
[21:26] <IKE> so zenobius find it?
[21:26] <zenobius> ijn: something i heard off of afternow by sean kennedy
[21:26] <ijn> is that a problem if Iam on gutsy.
[21:26] <zenobius> IKE: i cant, but ifound this...
[21:26] <tauchris> Please forgive this "noob" question-- I'm setting up VPN access on Gutsy using vpnc.  Docs suggest that vpnc can run in user space-- I took that to mean that if I set it up correctly, I wouldn't have to do "sudo" to establish or disconnect a vpn session.  So far, I haven't been able to get it working without sudo.  Does anyone have any hints?
[21:27] <macd> piglit, pc2pc links with crossover cables shouldn't be expected to fun fast, since they default to half duplex, your best bet is to use a switch to connect them, or deal with the slowness
[21:27] <juliank> Nrbelex2: reboot
[21:27] <Nrbelex2> juliank, 10-4
[21:27] <RenatoSilva> Is this nice? http://paste.debian.net/46002
[21:27] <RenatoSilva> Is this nice? http://paste.debian.net/46002
[21:27] <zenobius> IKE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[21:27] <vee_> grrrr i gotta do work and want to reinstall NOW, guess i have to wait
[21:28] <Pi1> triing to create a ubuntu-win lan.... but when i try access it ask me password..(in both sense) what to do?
[21:28] <piglit> macd: i get a lot of link up and link down .. i also tried non crossover cable's
[21:29] <okeefenokee> Sheesh. Now my system freezes just by opening the Network settings dialog.
[21:29] <joha> Is there an aptitude command to remove all unneeded packages that may be on the system?
[21:29] <macd> piglit, non crossover WILL NOT WORK for a pc2pc link, unless both ethernet cards are gigabit.
[21:29] <Nrbelex2> juliank, no device is shown after a startup
[21:29] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: i see your doing a deb restore there
[21:29] <mular> Anyone know if a dell dimension would support cpu freq scaling
[21:30] <xst> How can I get scribus 1.3.4 to ubuntu? It was released in may so I wonder why it isn't in ubuntu yet.
[21:30] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: is this your 'setmyUbuntuUp-aftermajor-reinstall" script
[21:30] <endo> need help mounting my digital camera, it's a Sony DSC-W55
[21:30] <macd> mular, if it contains a centrino or pentium mobile based CPU.
[21:30] <endo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4058483
[21:30] <endo> it seems to be a problem for many people
[21:30] <mular> ah ok so a normal P4 wouldn't do it
[21:30] <endo> if you check out that thread, you'll understand
[21:30] <macd> mular, nope
[21:30] <endo> someone, please help
[21:30] <Nrbelex2> How does one check what devices are recognized in a USB port?
[21:30] <mular> thanks :) also any idea how I could fix an issue where I can suspend / hibernate but no sound comes back?
[21:31] <macd> mular, I'm pretty sure I've seen that as a bug already, so just stay tuned for a fix.
[21:31] <brobostigon> nrbelex2: lsusb, dmesg
[21:31] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Does the output of 'ndiswrapper -l' contains any error message? Is the device listed as available?
[21:31] <jobe> Right so what should i try to do (sry to be a pain). to summarize my problem x server doesnt load for me and after i click no to showing me log. instead of loading t terminal it just hangs.  i have ubuntu cd if that helps.
[21:31] <thrice> hi. can anyone help me out with a audio-probem? I got Realtek ALC268, and I followed a guide to compile a install file to the newest ALSA. I got trough the prosess without any errors, but It still dont work. This is my first time using Linux, so I don't know what to do next.
[21:31] <mular> ah ok thanks macd for the answers :)
[21:31] <zenobius> pil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba &https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[21:31] <zenobius> pil : woops , thats https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[21:32] <endo> can someone please help me mount my sony cybeshot dsc-w55. im not the only one having the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4058483
[21:32] <ijn> I did..sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:32] <Nrbelex2> juliank, driver installed, device present
[21:32] <tauchris> Anyone familiar with using "vpnc" (Cisco vpn client) on Ubuntu?
[21:32] <macd> jobe, from your terminal, type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  then select your video card type and hit enter for all other questions, then reboot.
[21:32] <ijn> Download done.
[21:32] <ijn> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[21:32] <ijn> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[21:32] <macd> ijn, did you read the second link?
[21:32] <ijn> what has gone worng
[21:32] <jobe> macd, i understand that would fix the x server problem but I cannot get to terminal to type that command. :(
[21:33] <zenobius> Nrbelex2: the terminal command lsusb will reveal connected and recognised usb devices
[21:33] <dv_^> anyone know how to make xorg detect more mouse buttons? using evdev i get 7 but my mouse has 12. Using Option "Buttons" "12" has no effect
[21:33] <ijn> no
[21:33] <macd> jobe, sure you can, hit crtl+alt+f2 then login
[21:33] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Run 'ndiswrapper -ma' and 'modprobe ndiswrapper'.
[21:33] <ompaul> !webcams > ryuki
[21:33] <Ttech> How do you add items to the gnome context menu?
[21:33] <Chris_Swift> xst, has your question need answered about scribus?
[21:33] <Nrbelex2> zenobius, juliank, perm. denied
[21:33] <zenobius> Ttech : by recompiling gnome
[21:33] <macd> ijn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397  <-- read :)
[21:34] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: yeah
[21:34] <Ttech> zenobius, what?
[21:34] <Nrbelex2> Sorry, zenobuis, wronf person
[21:34] <ijn> ok thnks
[21:34] <Oli``> Is there a way to restart X (or have it reload its config) without dumping all the programs running inside X?
[21:34] <jobe> macd, i type that when the computer hangs or at what point?  when i see the message cannot load x server?
[21:34] <Ttech> No way to do that?
[21:34] <Ttech> Otherwise?
[21:34] <echosa> either 1.) boot into safe mode then copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...... OR 2.) boot the live cd, mount your filesystem on the hard drive, then copy <mount position>/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup to <mount position>/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:34] <Ttech> So you can't just add a menu item/
[21:34] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Use sudo. 'sudo ndiswrapper -ma' and 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[21:34] <macd> jobe, after the xserver is done not loading
[21:34] <zenobius> Ttech: only certain apps can do it or you need to recompile gnome with the menu entries, or you can use nautilus-scripts
[21:34] <jobe> ok, will try that now. brb
[21:34] <macd> jobe, hit that then you might need to hit enter once to wake the terminal
[21:34] <Ttech> zenobius, I have nautilus scripts.
[21:34] <Ttech> zenobius, I just odn't know how to use it
[21:35] <zenobius> Ttech: right click the desktop, and gotot he scripts menu
[21:35] <bluefox83> can anyone recommend some software to convert .ogg to mp3? (i know, sounds stupid..but my mp3 player wont play .ogg :( )
[21:35] <zenobius> Ttech: at the bottom of that submenu is 'open scripts folder'
[21:35] <macd> Ttech, add then to:  ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/ then chmod +x them, and they will show up
[21:36] <Eyemean> hi, if i was to upgrade my mother board a cpu from amd to intel, does that mean i would have to reinstall gutsy or can i just use the same?
[21:36] <bluefox83> unless someone knows how to add .ogg support into a coby 512mb mp3 player >.>
[21:36] <Nrbelex2> module configuration info is stored in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, juliank, and then "Segmentation fault" on the 2nd command
[21:36] <macd> Eyemean, chances are it will be fine
[21:36] <zenobius> bluefox83: look at rockbox.org
[21:36] <bluefox83> Eyemean, it'll be fine as it is, so long as you didn't pick a kernel specific to your proc
[21:37] <Eyemean> macd, would that be the same case for winxp, becaus ei am dual booting
[21:37] <zenobius> bluefox83: i have my ipod using it, so i can now play all kinds of funnky files without itunes
[21:37] <zenobius> bluefox83: i even use floola to convert and transfer videos to my ipod (apple os side)
[21:37] <Eyemean> bluefox83, it just installed normal, so i didnt pick anything in particular
[21:38] <bluefox83> Eyemean, should be fine then
[21:38] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Sorry. Can't help you.
[21:38] <Nrbelex2> juliank, damn
[21:38] <bluefox83> zenobius, that's an ipod though...i don't see coby anywhere
[21:38] <RequinB4> hey all - I plugged a flash drive in and previously i had a disk file system i had to unmount to remove it safely.  Now, I just get a file in /media.  I need to know what i need to do to remove the drive safely on my box now.
[21:38] <fengolly[1]> off topic i know but i'm guessing someone has a dell poweredge 600sc server -- how does one avoid f1 on boot
[21:38] <juliank> Nrbelex2: Try to reboot again. It should work now.
[21:39] <macd> Eyemean, chancesa re yes, but I'm betting winxp needs to be re activated/validated after.
[21:39] <MewRS> hey hey hey!
[21:39] <Eyemean> bluefox83, cheers
[21:39] <MewRS> wazzup!
[21:39] <sparkybea1> new ipods + gtkpod. do they play along? google hasnt helped too much...
[21:39] <zenobius> bluefox83: they dont show your player on ther page?
[21:39] <Nrbelex2> juliank, rebooting...
[21:39] <bluefox83> zenobius, no
[21:39] <bluefox83> not that i can see
[21:39] <PriceChild> sparkybea1, "yes"
[21:39] <zenobius> bluefox83: proly soon will.
[21:39] <bluefox83> it's a cheap little 30 dollar mp3 player, so i don't see why they woudl develop for it
[21:39] <MewRS> is there anybody with HP Pavilion dv9000?
[21:40] <bluefox83> *would
[21:40] <sparkybea1> excellent, cheers
[21:40] <RenatoSilva> Is this nice? http://paste.debian.net/46002
[21:40] <Eyemean> macd, darn, in that case my backed version of the windows xp c partition would be usless coreect/
[21:40] <zenobius> bluefox83: oh,,, there is that...do you mind losing a bit of quality
[21:40] <macd> Eyemean, if you have a valid copy of windowsxp, then no, but it its pirated, stolen etc then youre up the creek
[21:41] <VladimirMelo> does anyone have troubles with tracker?
[21:41] <ace_suares> My PC became unbootable after a standard upgrade (Gutsy)
[21:41] <rem_> ..
[21:41] <Quicksilva> macd, its jobe here.  Back on my PC working again! thanks so much for your help  :D
[21:41] <Eyemean> macd, no it is a valid copy m8, my university was kind enough to give every student a valid copy of windows xp with a valid serial
[21:41] <ace_suares> What can I do to make it bootable again ?
[21:41] <ompaul> VladimirMelo, I kill it off myself now and again
[21:41] <ace_suares> PS I am using linux since 1994.
[21:42] <macd> Quicksilva, glad it worked :)
[21:42] <Quicksilva> ty buddy
[21:42] <zenobius> RenatoSilva: have a look at aptoncd
[21:42] <brobostigon> !grub | ace_suares
[21:42] <ubotu> ace_suares: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:42] <endo> ace_suares: maybe you'd be able to help me then
[21:42] <ompaul> !bootoptions | ace_suares
[21:42] <ubotu> ace_suares: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:42] <VladimirMelo> ompaul: what kind of trouble do you have?
[21:42] <ompaul> VladimirMelo, it was running the cpu very hot
[21:42] <k0rnz> what is the name of the automated software installer that installs Google Earth and other programs?
[21:42] <endo> ace_suares: i'm having problems mounting my Sony Cybershot DSC w55: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4058483
[21:42] <ace_suares> brobostigon: read carefully: pc unbootable after standard upgrade (gutsy).
[21:42] <ompaul> had the fans on full whack and running a high load
[21:42] <rem_> ace...depends what ure prob is ? ... if it's just the boot flag...log in with a boot disk like knoppix and edit with tool like kparted or gparted and make it bootable ..
[21:43] <endo> ace_suares: it seems to be a common problem, and I cannot figure it out. i'm at the point where im ready to install wxp :(
[21:43] <Eyemean> macd, cheers fr the info at least now i know what to exepct if and when i change my motherboard and chip. i got crappy 1.6Ghz at the mo, and was given intel 2.4Gh
[21:43] <ace_suares> endo: I have problems booting my pc
[21:43] <Flannel> rem_: boot flags are ignored in most modern OSs, including Linux
[21:43] <brobostigon> bios
[21:43] <VladimirMelo> ompaul: you're using just gnome search tool?
[21:43] <ace_suares> endo: you can buy another camera too :-)
[21:43] <endo> I can't seem to get anyones attension around here today
[21:43] <ompaul> VladimirMelo, na, I was - I killed the process
[21:43] <rem_> well..ok but depending on the prob, it could be solved with a boot disk and a partition mgr ..
[21:43] <zenobius> Kornz: its moved onto being called mediubuntu
[21:43] <ace_suares> endo: how are yure experiences with winxp ?
[21:43] <k0rnz> anyone know what is the name of that program that automatically installs Google-Earth and other programs in Ubuntu?
[21:43] <Soskel> poop
[21:44] <Nrbelex2> juliank, sda1 has been mounted 37 times - it's running a check - 1 minute
[21:44] <endo> i hate xp man
[21:44] <VladimirMelo> ompaul: have you ever heard troubles with tracker before?
[21:44] <pike_> endo: so if ya plug it in then do dmesg | tail can you pastebin the output?
[21:44] <Flannel> k0rnz: google earth is in medibuntu, add the repository, go to down with synaptic.
[21:44] <VladimirMelo> about*
[21:44] <ompaul> VladimirMelo, the ones I told you about - so that is it
[21:44] <ace_suares> endo: nothings perfect then I guess.
[21:44] <endo> pike_: thank you bro, give me a second ok?
[21:44] <RenatoSilva> zenobius: Huuuu??? I use it everyday
[21:44] <ace_suares> endo: maybe try vista.
[21:44] <VladimirMelo> ompaul: ok, thanks
[21:44] <k0rnz> Flannel, not that but the program that you install which then installs Google-Earth and other popular software packages
[21:45] <k0rnz> it is native to Ubuntu users
[21:45] <endo> ace_suares: I work for HP, vista a bit better but...debain is best
[21:45] <Nrbelex2> juliank, still nothing :-(
[21:45] <pike_> endo: for most people automount works. i had to make a little script for my family to look in dmesg and then mount out usb devices but that is far from normal
[21:45] <pike_> out/our
[21:45] <ace_suares> endo: debian is based on ubuntu (or vice versa).
[21:45] <Flannel> k0rnz: EasyUbuntu is no longer maintained, they recommend you just use the regular package manager with the medibuntu repository.
[21:46] <zenobius> time for sleep, postman is outsde in his vespa
[21:46] <ace_suares> k0rnz: I agree with Flannel
[21:46] <zenobius> on*
[21:46] <endo> pike_: check msg
[21:46] <XxValetexX> hello all
[21:47] <tomvolek_> hi all, happy new year.  New to Ruby on rails. Whats the best way to insert content into MYSQL via a Ruby script ?
[21:47] <XxValetexX> is there any way to install xunbuntu in a computer that cant read CDs?
[21:47] <PriceChild> !install | XxValetexX
[21:47] <ubotu> XxValetexX: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:47] <tomvolek_> oops sorry wrong channel :)
[21:47] <k0rnz> Flannel, i'm not talking about a repository, I'm trying to remember what the name was for the program which is installable via synaptic which then installs several programs like Google Earth and DeVeDe among others
[21:48] <xtas> tomvolek_: happy new year to you too :)
[21:48] <k0rnz> the name starts with an A i think something like Applica or Apptiva or something like that
[21:48] <k0rnz> i cant quite remember the name though
[21:48] <Flannel> k0rnz: There is no program like that.
[21:48] <k0rnz> there was a whole section in the ubuntu forums about it
[21:48] <crowmaster> ola buenas noches
[21:48] <Soskel> can you boot from extended?
[21:49] <Soskel> is that possible?
[21:49] <Myrtti> k0rnz: forget it and move along
[21:49] <Flannel> k0rnz: I just told you, EasyUbuntu was like that, it is no longer maintained, because medibuntu more or less superceded the need for it.
[21:49] <Jowi> Soskel, a partition inside the extended - yes
[21:49] <phaedra> k0rnz, Automtix I think...
[21:49] <k0rnz> phaedra, thanks thats it!
[21:49] <ompaul> !automatix | k0rnz
[21:49] <ubotu> k0rnz: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:49] <Flannel> !automatix | k0rnz
[21:49] <k0rnz> Flannel, thanks also
[21:49] <Myrtti> oh no
[21:49] <Myrtti> they said it
[21:49] <Soskel>  Jowi does that partition count twords the 4 primarys you are limited too??
[21:49] <phaedra> k0rnz, Automatix that is....
[21:50] <Flannel> k0rnz: The only thign automatix is good for is breaking your system.  Don't use it, it'll only end in tears.
[21:50] <Myrtti> k0rnz, phaedra: don't touch it
[21:50] <PMantis> Hey guys... anyone know how to run a script after each successful file transfer over ssh?
[21:50] <Myrtti> k0rnz, phaedra: your ubuntu warranty will be null and void the moment you touch it
[21:50] <endo> pike_: you still there bro?
[21:50] <phaedra> Myrtti, I don't...  I prefer to install things myself via apt-get or synaptic.
[21:50] <pike_> endo: yeah
[21:50] <pike_> endo: i didnt get a /msg are you registered?
[21:51] <endo> ohhh
[21:51] <Myrtti> phaedra: then don't endorse the usage of it in anyway
[21:51] <endo> alright, i'll pastebin
[21:51] <Jowi> Soskel, yes
[21:51] <k0rnz> what i need is to find the name of that software package that automatix installs where it enables you to use 2 pairs of keyboards, monitors, mice, and makes your single PC behave like it was 2 PCs where 2 people can use it using seperate keyboards, monitors, mice sets
[21:51] <pike_> k
[21:51] <Soskel> thanks Jowi
[21:51] <Myrtti> phaedra: forget that you've ever heard of it
[21:51] <phaedra> Myrtti, But others do like it...
[21:51] <Flannel> ace_suares: So, this "not booting" thing, you'll really need to be more specific.  Since "doesnt work" just isnt very descriptive.
[21:51] <Jowi> Soskel, 3 primary + 1 extended = 4 "primary"
[21:51] <Myrtti> phaedra: no, they don't
[21:51] <Myrtti> phaedra: honestly
[21:51] <Soskel> thank you
[21:51] <k0rnz> anyone know of the program name which allows me to use my single PC as 2 PCs? linux or windows vista?
[21:52] <ompaul> !xen | k0rnz (not trivial)
[21:52] <ubotu> k0rnz (not trivial): XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[21:52] <tomg_> k0rnz u mean like virtualization?
[21:52] <Myrtti> !automatix > phaedra
[21:52] <PMantis> k0rnz: Not with Vista, but with Linux you can easily setup a remote X session.. boot a thin client with LTSP.
[21:52] <endo> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50539/
[21:53] <k0rnz> yeah so 2 kids can both use PC at the same time instead of fighting over who gets to go first. thanks for the info
[21:53] <pike_> k0rnz: http://support.userful.com/wiki/index.php/How_To/Desktop_Multiplier_on_Ubuntu
[21:53] <pike_> k0rnz: i think thats right
[21:53] <tomg_> k0rnz: oh u mean with 2 keyboards, 2 mice and 2 monitors?
[21:53] <k0rnz> tomg, yes
[21:53] <k0rnz> pike_ and others thanks
[21:54] <Jowi> k0rnz, easier to buy a second cheap one
[21:54] <pike_> endo: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/usb   <-- try that
[21:54] <tomg_> k0rnz do u have 2 gfx cards?
[21:54] <k0rnz> instead of setting up another PC which will burn up extra energy, i want to just run 1 PC and have 2 terminals running off of 1 PC
[21:54] <Pi1> a question: if i dont change the access to a shared folder in windows from everyone to "someone" i will not need user and password to access to shared doc?
[21:54] <Flannel> k0rnz: Just because we say not to use Auto-whatever, doesn't mean not to use the software that it could install.  There are safe methods for installing all of that software.  You just need to know what it is you're actually looking for.
[21:54] <endo> pike_:  i get: mount: mount point /media/usb does not exist
[21:55] <k0rnz> tomg_ no but i can always get another one
[21:55] <pike_> endo: oops sudo mkdir /media/camera; sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/camera
[21:55] <k0rnz> Flannel, I will probably install Automatix just to see the name of the program that allows me to run my PC like 2
[21:55] <Flannel> k0rnz: Unfortunately, I don't see any listed software that looks like it might do that.  Unless you're talking about VMWare or Virtualbox
[21:56] <k0rnz> might have been virtualbox but i do know about VMware
[21:56] <endo> pike_: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[21:56] <ijn> hey guys thanks for adobe flash
[21:56] <ijn> it works
[21:56] <Myrtti> k0rnz: for the love of GAIA don't install automatix
[21:56] <ijn> thanks:)
[21:56] <pike_> endo: grr its in your dmesg one sec
[21:56] <aKirkeby> k0rnz, could it have been Qemu perhaps?
[21:56] <XxValetexX> Myrtti:  ahahahah
[21:56] <k0rnz> aKirkeby, not sure but will look into it too
[21:57] <endo> pike_: sorry, I dont see it bro
[21:57] <XxValetexX> Myrtti: what does this automatix do anyways?
[21:57] <Flannel> k0rnz: There's plenty of virtualization things, some of which (obviously) do what you're asking.  I'd do some research on them, and find out what works best.
[21:57] <k0rnz> Myrtti, lol ok
[21:57] <Gnea> Hey everyone, I'm trying to finalise a DVD that I'm making for a group presentation, but the mkisofs command refuses to create the image file, and k3b won't burn the dvd.  I'm following these directions: http://www.lynchconsulting.com.au/blog/index.cfm/2007/12/24/HOWTO-Create-DVDs-on-Ubuntu  and everything works except for the final step.  Has anyone else had better luck?
[21:57] <Myrtti> !automatix > XxValetexX
[21:57] <Flannel> !virtualization | k0rnz, you have plenty to choose from
[21:57] <k0rnz> ok thanks guys appreciated it
[21:57] <ubotu> k0rnz, you have plenty to choose from: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[21:57] <tomgg> k0rnz: u dont need that
[21:57] <tomgg> k0rnz: u need multiseat X
[21:58] <tim167> i downloaded a .deb file but it doesnt automatically open with the package installer, how do i do that ? thanks
[21:58] <wols_> tim167: dpkg -i
[21:58] <Gnea> tim167: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[21:58] <DenFromKiev> хай всем
[21:58] <k0rnz> tomgg, thanks i will also look into that
[21:58] <DenFromKiev> вопрос
[21:58] <pike_> endo: does dmesg | tain -n 30 still show sda1?
[21:58] <wols_> !ru | DenFromKiev
[21:58] <ubotu> DenFromKiev: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:58] <XxValetexX> k0rnz: how confusing xD
[21:58] <brobostigon> tim167:gdebi is one option i think??
[21:58] <k0rnz> yeah :)
[21:58] <pike_> endo: er... desmg | tail -n 40
[21:58] <vexati0n> raise your hand if you're an expert web developer with nothing better to do than spend a couple months on a project with me without getting paid :D
[21:58] <tomgg> k0rnz: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Multiseat_X that might help
[21:58] <pike_> endo: one more time! dmesg | tail -n 40 :)
[21:58] <XxValetexX> k0rnz: apparently u need a lot of things and none at the same time
[21:59] <endo> k :D
[21:59] <tim167> ah ok thanks i'll try some of your :)
[21:59] <k0rnz> tomgg, thanks a bunch this is exactly what i need!
[21:59] <tim167> suggestions
[21:59] <wols_> vexati0n: do you have an ubuntu related support question?
[21:59] <vexati0n> yes
[21:59] <DenFromKiev> sho u menya russkogo ne vidno ? ))))
[21:59] <tomgg> k0rnz no worries, just msg me if youre stuck :D
[21:59] <Jowi> k0rnz, tomgg: that will work if the kids are gonna use the same OS. not otherwise
[21:59] <k0rnz> k hanks
[21:59]  * Gnea eyes vexati0n with a certain look...
[21:59] <DenFromKiev> sorry
[21:59] <wols_> DenFromKiev: this channel is english ONLY. go to #ubuntu-ru
[22:00] <tomgg> k0rnz: yea, u want them to use different?
[22:00] <vexati0n> Gnea: I'm married :|
[22:00] <DenFromKiev> yes yes sorry
[22:00] <XxValetexX> cex :P
[22:00] <XxValetexX> vexati0n:  :P
[22:00] <Gnea> vexati0n: your justification method is not working.
[22:00] <XxValetexX> vexati0n:  what is that project of urs?
[22:00] <bense> anyone know how to increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4?
[22:00] <k0rnz> tomgg, linux will be fine for now thanks
[22:00] <wols_> XxValetexX: it's avery fun project best discussed in #web
[22:00] <bense> i'm using gnome
[22:00] <Pi1> i solved the lan share..but only in 1 sense...i still have not a user to set in windows to access to ubuntu files..
[22:00] <vexati0n> A self-administering website. Except it's the kind of thing that will probably get me arrested in a few years if it works right. :)
[22:01] <XxValetexX> wols_: srry x_0
[22:01] <tomgg> Jowi, k0rnz: if not you could probably virtualize
[22:01] <endo> pike_: [45643.550346]  sda: sda1
[22:01] <endo> [45643.748170] sd 8:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
[22:01] <endo> so, im assuming yes
[22:01] <Gnea> bense: right click on the desktops on the bottom-right and go to properties, then add more
[22:01] <RequinB4>  hey all - I plugged a flash drive in and previously i had a disk file system i had to unmount to remove it safely.  Now, I just get a file in /media.  I need to know what i need to do to remove the drive safely on my box now.
[22:01] <vexati0n> wols_: i really do have an Ubuntu question, i'm just saving it for five seconds before you kick me out for being off topic.
[22:01] <Gnea> vexati0n: why do you have a death wish?
[22:02] <rlv> Can you control install directory, etc for apt-get installs?  In other words can you control where apache install with apt-get install apache?
[22:02] <ikonia> !broadcom > floatingredwagon
[22:02] <XxValetexX> !grub
[22:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:02] <wols_> rlv: not in a meaningful manner. why would you want to?
[22:02] <vexati0n> Gnea: because i'm a human, and humans are like lemmings with bad breath.
[22:02] <vee_> rlv why? i dont know any
[22:03] <rlv> wols_:  working with another system admin who wants to segregate meaningful (to ops)  from those on the system generally
[22:03] <rlv> no problems - i didn't think so
[22:03] <Gnea> vexati0n: i'm sorry your life seems to suck so bad. perhaps you should just go live in a cardboard box for a few years and see just how bad life can really get. honestly, what's the website about?
[22:04] <endo> pike_: ill paste what it says, give me a second
[22:04] <wols_> Gnea: you haven't figured out by his description? p2p
[22:04] <vexati0n> Gnea - PM? Don't want to make wols feel unappreciated.
[22:04] <ffm> !coc | Gnea
[22:04] <ubotu> Gnea: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[22:04] <Myrtti> !offopic | vexati0n, Gnea
[22:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:04] <Myrtti> !offtopic | vexati0n, Gnea
[22:04] <ubotu> vexati0n, Gnea: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:04] <Gnea> sorry guys
[22:04] <Nrbelex2> I have a USB wireless network device that isn't working with the default included driver - how can I make sure it is using the Windows driver I just installed with ndiswrapper and not the default?
[22:04] <Gnea> Myrtti: hey, i got the message the first time. back off.
[22:05] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[22:05]  * Gnea decides instead to /ignore vexati0n 
[22:05] <Randomtime> Nrblex2: have you tryed modprob ndiswrapper
[22:05] <endo> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50540/
[22:05] <Randomtime> Nrblex2: modprobe ndiswrapper sorry
[22:05] <Gnea> so yeah, this DVD still won't make
[22:07] <endo> pike_: ????
[22:07] <teddy__> Hi, I'm getting started with shell scripting. May I say that bash is the same as /bin/sh?
[22:08] <crdlb> teddy__: no
[22:08] <brobostigon> quiet here!!
[22:08] <crdlb> teddy__: on ubuntu, /bin/sh is dash
[22:08] <vee_> how can I boot from live cd if i cant see POST on this monitor?
[22:08] <juan> ive overwritten part of a ext3 partition is there anyway to restore data that wasnt erased?
[22:08] <tomgg> teddy__: they should be similar enough for most scripting purposes
[22:09] <teddy__> crdlb, thanks. So if I want to follow the POSIX standard I shall start my scripts as #! /bin/dash?
[22:09] <crdlb> teddy__: nah, if you want to use "bashisms", then put #!/bin/bash
[22:09] <crdlb> teddy__: if your script only uses pure POSIX shell features, then you can put #!/bin/sh
[22:10] <teddy__> crdlb, ok, so #! /bin/bash is the standard, portable POSIX
[22:10] <teddy__> crdlb, I tried a very simple script with #! /bin/sh but it didn't work
[22:10] <crdlb> teddy__: if your script will only run on bash (because it uses bash-only features), then yes you should always explicitly run it with /bin/bash
[22:10] <tomgg> teddy__ i would have thought #! /bin/sh would be more standard across oses, then it can use any shell
[22:10] <reportingsjr> Where is the python folder?
[22:10] <XxValetexX> =P
[22:10] <tomgg> as long as your script is not arkward
[22:10] <Nrbelex2> I have a wireless USB net adapter. It wasn't working properly with the included driver. Now, after using the Windows driver for it though ndiswrapper, the link light isn't flashing at all and Ubuntu doesn't even recognize it... ARGH
[22:11] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me out
[22:11] <brobostigon> i am learning python.
[22:11] <teddy__> tomgg this is the idea. But Ubuntu substituted it with dash for efficiency
[22:11] <vee_> zenobius how can I boot from live cd if i cant see POST on this monitor?
[22:11] <tomgg> teddy__ yea and dash should be ok, its just when some non standard bash extensions are used in scripts they dont work with sh
[22:11] <crdlb> teddy__: your simple script probably uses some "bashisms" then (features only in bash)
[22:12] <ace_suares> Flannel you still there
[22:12] <ace_suares> Flannel: ?
[22:12] <teddy__> Ok, my book is driving me towards a simple who | wc -l
[22:12] <reportingsjr> what is wrong with ls / |grep soy ?
[22:12] <Flannel> ace_suares: Yep.
[22:12] <teddy__> But the book is about standard POSIX scripting
[22:12] <ace_suares> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/179844
[22:13] <tomgg> teddy__ it works for me in bash and dash
[22:13] <ace_suares> Flannel: hope that is specific enoughj
[22:13] <Jowi> reportingsjr, nothing at all... as long as you have a file or folder in / that has "soy" in its name.
[22:13] <teddy__> tomgg, yes, but not with #! /bin/sh
[22:13] <tomgg> teddy__ run this  ls -l /bin/sh
[22:14] <endo> pike_: ????
[22:14] <teddy__> links to dash
[22:14] <endo> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50540/
[22:14] <reportingsjr> Jowi: yeah, I forgot to make it recursive :p
[22:14] <teddy__> tomgg, links to dash
[22:14] <rodolfo> does anyone here use thunderbird working correctly when communicating with owa? is that possible?
[22:14] <tomgg> teddy__ what output do u get from your script in dash?
[22:14] <brobostigon> rodolfo: what is owa??
[22:14] <Myrtti> rodolfo: evolution is the one that does that
[22:15] <teddy__> tomgg, do you mean as #! /bin/dash?
[22:15] <Myrtti> BoNz_[R]: exchange, outlook web access or like
[22:15] <IL> Hello. I had gotten a link to a walk-through of how to install an internal dial-up internet modem, but I'm afraid that the link is lost. Can anyone direct me as to where I might could find it again? it was in the Ubuntu support sites but I'm having a bit of an issue finding it again.
[22:15] <Myrtti> damn
[22:15] <rodolfo> brobostigon: outlook web access
[22:15] <Myrtti> brobostigon: ^
[22:15] <Beetle_> Can anyone suggest a good torrent client?
[22:15] <tomgg> teddy__ either that or /bin/sh, as they should be the same
[22:15] <brobostigon> ok.
[22:15] <Jowi> !dialup | IL
[22:15] <Soskel> please consume my bandwidth http://webtechmedia.net/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:15] <reportingsjr> How do I remove a folder and all it's contents through terminal?
[22:15] <ubotu> IL: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[22:15] <Myrtti> Beetle_: there are as many suggestions as leaves in a forest
[22:15] <Soskel> reportingsjr: rm foldername
[22:15] <IL> Jowi: aha! tyvm.
[22:15] <Kevin`> reportingsjr rm -r folder
[22:15] <Jowi> reportingsjr, rm -r
[22:16] <brobostigon> reportingsjr: mc will do that
[22:16] <Soskel> rm -rf
[22:16] <Sabaki> hi all
[22:16] <DanB> can someone tell me what codec i need to run DIVX.AVI movies
[22:16] <tomgg> teddy__ ?
[22:16] <Beetle_> Myrtti: I've only had Ubuntu for two days...I'm looking for one that is Ubuntu friendly.
[22:16] <teddy__> tomgg, sorry, I was trying.
[22:16] <Sabaki> happy to know that ubuntu is the most frequented linux distribution channel on freenode
[22:16] <reportingsjr> Soskel: That rm foldername wont work
[22:16] <Myrtti> Beetle_: you're not happy with the one installed by default?
[22:16] <reportingsjr> thanks guys :)
[22:16] <tomgg> teddy__ no worries, what output do u get?
[22:16] <teddy__> tomgg, it's actually working also with #! /bin/sh -
[22:17] <Jowi> reportingsjr, careful with using "-rf" switch. you will not get a warning and if you remove the wrong folder it can only be recovered by backups
[22:17] <teddy__> 2
[22:17] <tomgg> teddy__ lol so no problem then?
[22:17] <teddy__> tomgg, I get as output: 2
[22:17] <Beetle_> Myrtti:Sorry I didn't know there was one *blush*
[22:17] <irmo> plz help me...i still cant acces to ubuntu by a windows lan...it wanna user and password...WHERE TO SET IT?
[22:17] <worthawholebean> Is there any way that won't make dpkg complain to replace GTK+ with a newer version?
[22:17] <worthawholebean> I need it for development
[22:17] <teddy__> tomgg, yes, it's working fine. Probably a typo. Pheew, at least I can keep studying :-)
[22:18] <tomgg> teddy__ lol gdgd
[22:18] <teddy__> tomgg, Bye and thanks.
[22:18] <goldenratio> whats the best software to use to run windows xp on linux?
[22:18] <Jowi> irmo, smbpasswd
[22:18] <brobostigon> irmo: menu /system/admin/users and groups maybe??
[22:18] <cook> hey guys von euch ist net zufällig jemand da der von sich behaupten kann er hat viel ahnung von iptables?
[22:18] <Kevin`> goldenratio virtualbox or vmware
[22:18] <goldenratio> is it vmware for workstation?
[22:18] <brobostigon> !de | cook
[22:18] <ubotu> cook: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:19] <cook> sorry
[22:19] <XxValetexX> cook: :)
[22:19] <Kevin`> vmware workstation is expensive. use server or player if you dont have it (or virtualbox)
[22:19] <AzMoo> Hey, does anybody know the syntax for an nbd-server config file?  I've just installed the ltsp-server and on boot it's telling me there's an error parsing the nbd config file.
[22:19] <irmo> brobostigon: u mena i have to create a new user?
[22:19] <brobostigon> cook: es ist nut englisch hier
[22:19] <cook> i should know that i was here already
[22:19] <brobostigon> irmo: maybe, i dont know??
[22:19] <cook> but i forgot
[22:19] <cook> sorry
[22:20] <Jowi> irmo, "smbpasswd -add username" (see "man smbpasswd")
[22:21] <Vanuatoo__> where can I find keyboard shortcuts for visual effects?
[22:21] <goldenratio> now if i install the vmware, do i have to reinstall windows or can i use an already installed version, cause i have linux on one drive and windows on antoher
[22:22] <worthawholebean> How can I install an updated version of a package without breaking anything?
[22:23] <crdlb> !ccsm | Vanuatoo__
[22:23] <ubotu> Vanuatoo__: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:23] <Jowi> worthawholebean, if the update is in the normal/security repos you should be safe.
[22:23] <arm_> hello
[22:23] <arm_> help
[22:23] <worthawholebean> Jowi, what about dependencies?
[22:24] <Cromag> arm_: ask you question
[22:24] <worthawholebean> Should be alright?
[22:24] <arm_> i'm using xubuntu
[22:24] <naxa> I want to get the text from a html between <title> and </title> tags, but it is often broken into two lines. there are 36000 html files so i need some automatic thing.
[22:24] <Jowi> worthawholebean, will also be taken care of. no guarantees can be made for 3rd party repos though (as you might understand)
[22:24] <arm_> and  i got problems with the gnome settings
[22:24] <worthawholebean> jowi, of course, I just need a newer version of GTK+ for development
[22:24] <arm_> gnome settings menager
[22:24] <reportingsjr> arm_: type /join #xubuntu for help in.. xubuntu!
[22:25] <arm_> ok
[22:25] <arm_> thanks
[22:25] <reportingsjr> ;)
[22:25] <reportingsjr> no problem
[22:25] <arm_> :)
[22:25] <BigPedro> whois bigpedro
[22:25] <rodolfo> Myrtti: evolution has is simple, easy-to-use app but it seems to be unstable. is there a way to make TB work with owa (webDAV)?
[22:26] <brobostigon> bigpedro: /whois
[22:26] <rodolfo> Myrtti: i mean, by installing some plugin or whatever...
[22:26] <Myrtti> rodolfo: not that I know of, though I haven't looked into it that much. I rejoiced when I was freed from using owa and exchange
[22:27] <cvd> hey, any know how to fix this?  http://pastebin.com/d3e736915
[22:27] <Oneiro> n8
[22:27] <Eyemean> h is there a channel for general hardware help
[22:27] <skiltz> hi!
[22:27] <wols_> #hardware
[22:27] <`Matir> Does anyone know of a way to check if my motherboard has any free SATA ports without opening up the box?
[22:27] <Myrtti> cvd: do you have the -dev packages too
[22:27] <Jowi> cvd, you have the answer written there in plain text. see line 60-61
[22:27] <cvd> i already hace those packages
[22:27] <vee_> bye all
[22:28] <cook> ok i can try here maybe. i installed a little pentop computer with ubuntu linux. i wanted to use it as a "router" between wlan and ethernet connection. my wlan router is in another room, and this pentop should receive the data from the router and then send per ethernet to another pc in this room. i tried iptables but it didnt work
[22:28] <cvd> have
[22:28] <rodolfo> Myrtti: i wish i could be free, too...but ms uses to create its own rules for internet sites, webmails...
[22:28] <yemu> does anyone knows where i can find a list of supported wifi cards (mainly usb and pcmcia)
[22:28] <yemu> ?
[22:29] <Myrtti> rodolfo: I feel your pain ;-)
[22:29] <brobostigon> yemu: i think there is a hardware db on help.ubuntu.com
[22:29] <Jowi> cvd, check with "apt-cache packagename" to see which version you have installed.
[22:30] <irmo> jowi: thx i read...i have to create new user...how to watch actual smbpassword user list?
[22:30] <yemu> brobostigon: iyes i've found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[22:30] <Jowi> cvd, sorry. should be "apt-cache policy packagename"
[22:30] <cvd> the latest
[22:30] <irmo> jowi: i 've some problem translating english..
[22:30] <Jowi> irmo, no idea.
[22:30] <boutcher> 'Matir: dmidecode
[22:30] <Jowi> cvd, does the version match what the script is looking for?
[22:30] <cvd> yep
[22:31] <irmo> ok ^^ i'll look for italian smbpassword guide...thx a lot ^^ bye and sorry for boring :)
[22:31] <Jowi> cvd, you got the -dev packages installed?
[22:31] <grizlo42> how do i install makefile 1.9 on gutsy?
[22:31] <gotenks> argh, i had wireless internet working, and was working on ICS, and now it's not working
[22:34] <trogdorneedshelp> Hi guys, I feel like a real idiot, but I just can't find this information on the ubuntu site (it seems like it ought to be there).
[22:35] <trogdorneedshelp> If I have XP installed, and let it do it's recomended partitioning will it remove XP, or set them up to dual boot?
[22:35] <brobostigon> trogdorneedshelp: what were you looking for??
[22:35] <seanh> Can anyone explain to me how I get video output to an external monitor, after I have plugged it into my laptop? I'm fiddling with the Screens and Graphics dialog but not getting anything out
[22:35] <grizlo42> i just set up a dual boot today
[22:35] <pike_> trogdorneedshelp: you need the resize option most likely unless you have setup empty partitions already
[22:36] <grizlo42> let me find the tutorial i used that worked perfectly
[22:36] <Jowi> seanh, did you reboot the computer after you plugged it in? is it enabled in BIOS (some laptops need it, some don't)?
[22:36] <grizlo42> http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[22:37] <grizlo42> everything went smoothly with that, trog
[22:37] <seanh> Jowi -- I'm gonna try rebooting ... it has just set my main screen resolution way way down and now won't let it back up. Back in a sec
[22:37] <grizlo42> is there an installer for automake 1.9?
[22:38] <Eyemean> does anyone know of a good site that can let me determine what cpu socket i have pls?
[22:38] <ruinix> hello
[22:38] <ruinix> iám portuguese
[22:38] <gotenks> can anyone help me with my internet?
[22:38] <Myrtti> !pt | ruinix
[22:38] <ubotu> ruinix: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:38] <cyth> why can't I fine libcurl3-dev???
[22:38] <pike_> Eyemean:  you can do cat /proc/cpuinfo but that isnt definative for socket type i guess
[22:38] <Myrtti> !anyone | gotenks
[22:38] <ubotu> gotenks: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:38] <cyth> or libcurl-dev >:|
[22:39] <ruinix> i need help to have a sound
[22:39] <gotenks> that was my 2nd question Myrtti
[22:39] <Eyemean> pike_no sorry its on my other dead pc which where i want to replace the motherboard and devot to linux
[22:39] <gotenks> noone responded to my first one for several min's
[22:40] <gotenks> myrtti:  i had wireless internet working, and was working on ICS, and now it's not working
[22:40] <Myrtti> gotenks: and your first one wasn't particularly descriptive
[22:40] <gotenks> if i could describe it more i would
[22:41] <gotenks> i was following many different sites since no-one could help me other then referring me to internet sites about internet sharing
[22:41] <PirateHead> Is there a way to upgrade just one package to the Hardy version?
[22:41] <GStory> Has anyone had the following message on postgrey 1.27-4 on 7.10: Starting postfix greylisting daemon: postgreyUse of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/perl5/Sys/Syslog.pm line 123.
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> PirateHead: Just download the deb
[22:41] <Jowi> PirateHead, very possible. but not at all recommended. it can break many things depending on what you need as dependencies...
[22:42] <ruinix> when can help me?
[22:42] <PirateHead> In particular, I'm thinking about upgrading to the latest Firefox beta.
[22:42] <Jowi> !sound | ruinix (start here)
[22:42] <ubotu> ruinix (start here): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:42] <seanh> jowi -- the external started working on reboot. After a bit of fiddling with the resolutions it's perfect, and after a quick change to the power management settings I can close the laptop lid without blanking both screens. Cheers! I'm watchin a video now
[22:43] <ruinix> ok
[22:43] <ruinix> thanksw
[22:43] <ruinix> thanks
[22:43] <pike_> PirateHead: you could always just grab the tar.gz from mozilla and unpack it to your /home dir
[22:43] <Jowi> seanh, no probs. usually the VGA port activates during boot.
[22:43] <PirateHead> pike_: That's what I'm doing presently.
[22:43] <gotenks> i guess noone knows anything about how to help me fix my wireless internet
[22:43] <gotenks> :/
[22:44] <Gyro54> I would like to update to 7.10 from 7.04 but my HD partition is too small.
[22:45] <|SEF|> Hello, I'm having problems connecting to the Internet via a wired connection
[22:45] <Gyro54> Can I resize by using a boot disk and repartitioning without loosing my current data?
[22:45] <brobostigon> gyro54: i had the same prob on my laptop, so i started from scratch
[22:45] <|SEF|> I just installed Feisty onto a laptop, and we have static IP with our router
[22:45] <brobostigon> gyro54: i have only 4gb on my laptop
[22:45] <|SEF|> I've configured the interfaces file and it seems to be able to connect to the router OK, but it just can't go online
[22:45] <Odd-rationale> Gyro54: Possibly.
[22:46] <Jowi> |SEF|, what do you mean by wired? PC connected via Ethernet to a modem or router? is it USB? PPPoE or PPPoA?
[22:46] <Odd-rationale> Gyro54: In other words, not garunteed.
[22:46] <grizlo42> How do i put automake 1.9 onto Gutsy?
[22:46] <|SEF|> Jowi: Ethernet wire through a router
[22:46] <Jowi> |SEF|, ah. can you ping the router?
[22:46] <|SEF|> Jowi: Yes, I went into Networking tools and entered the router address
[22:46] <|SEF|> Jowi: and it pinged OK
[22:46] <Jowi> |SEF|, very good. can you open firefox and go to 216.239.59.99 ?
[22:46] <|SEF|> Jowi: thanks, hang on
[22:47] <mattholimeau> hey hey - i've got two problems i'm hoping to get help with - i just switched my monitor and can't get the resolution settings i want, and i just got a ipod, and every time i open rhythm box, it closes within a split second
[22:47] <Gyro54>  I have so much stuff on my current setup I will try it let you know - Thanks
[22:47]  * gotenks is frustaited at channels that cannot help with problems even though they are allegedly for help with that subject
[22:47] <mattholimeau> google hasn't helped so far... anyone have any ideas?
[22:48] <newbie> where can I find the instructions to install ubuntu?
[22:48] <il312> ok. I followed the instructions for the dialup internet modem on the Ubuntu site. I downloaded the drivers, installed them, ran the setup exactly as directed in the driver install itself. And it tells me that it cannot find my mode. *Sigh* and being new to Linux systems I've no clue of what to do at this point.
[22:48] <|SEF|> Jowi: Nope
 remove it download the tar.gz and compile it
[22:48] <Jowi> |SEF|, times out?
[22:48] <kitche> !install | newbie
[22:48] <ubotu> newbie: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:48] <ksbalaji> hi! I have gutsy 7.10 installed.  Pl suggest a gui for installing with resume support after a disconnection.
[22:49] <|SEF|> Jowi: FF just says that it can't establish a connection
[22:49] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok. can you enter the routers settings from firefox?
[22:49] <|SEF|> Jowi: I'm not sure if that's time out or not...
[22:49] <|SEF|> Jowi: Yup
[22:49] <Jowi> |SEF|, most routers has got a ping function. try to ping 216.239.59.99 from within the router settings page...
[22:50] <maria> I am looking for the following packages : libgpod 0.6.0 and an Amarok built against it... where should I start looking?
[22:50] <|SEF|> Jowi: OK, will try that now!
[22:50] <omar_> Hola
[22:50] <brobostigon> maria: maybe packages.ubuntu.com
[22:51] <maria> brobostigon, the latest version 0.6.0 doesn't figure there...
[22:51] <omar_> exit
[22:52] <murf3326> I know I probably just missed it but is there a webpage describing the different versions of buntu?
[22:52] <maria> brobostigon, hmm...now how about this...why would it show up here? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libg/libgpod/
[22:53] <brobostigon> maria: i dont know??
[22:54] <|SEF|> Jowi: Sorry for the wait, I looked around the router page but couldn't find a Ping function
[22:54] <|SEF|> Jowi: but
[22:54] <effie_jayx> Hello all
[22:54] <|SEF|> Jowi: I can ping that page from this computer, which is also connected to the router via a wired connection
[22:54] <|SEF|> Jowi: and also, when I was going through the router page with the laptop, sometimes it lost the connection
[22:54] <effie_jayx> I need help setting up a samsung bixolon printer...
[22:55] <effie_jayx> it's a ticket
[22:55] <effie_jayx> printer...
[22:55] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok. does this router contain a DSL modem?
[22:55] <JanC> effie_jayx: it's not supported in Ubuntu?
[22:55] <effie_jayx> not on the list
[22:55] <epsilonlyrae> ...some advice for a good torrent downloader ? ...Bittorrent in ubuntu doesn't manage multiple torrent download... isn'ti ?!
[22:56] <JanC> effie_jayx: and it's manual doesn't say "..."-comaptible ?
[22:56] <dennda> epsilonlyrae: deluge-torrent.org
[22:56] <epsilonlyrae> ...thx now get a look
[22:57] <effie_jayx> JanC,  I'm checking the manual
[22:57] <Jowi> epsilonlyrae, "transmission" is not bad either...
[22:58] <|SEF|> Jowi:  Sorry...I'm not sure what a DSL modem is
[22:58] <jakel1> ummm... i have a problem installing a theme
[22:58] <jakel1> can someone help me
[22:58] <antisocialist> ooo ok
[22:58] <antisocialist> i can
[22:58] <antisocialist> or at least try
[22:59] <jakel1> i am trying to install Mac4Lin GTK Metacity theme
[22:59] <antisocialist> and
[22:59] <epsilonlyrae> ...I know...
[22:59] <jakel1> and well... i go to the theme manager
[22:59] <Jowi> |SEF|, is the router connected to a modem or is the login settings for your internet connection in the router itself?
[22:59] <antisocialist> you are trying to compile from source right
[22:59] <jakel1> i select the .tar.gz file and hit install... it says it installs correctly but then it doesn't show up un the theme manager
[23:00] <antisocialist> do you have over 20 themes in metacity?
[23:00] <jakel1> i was following this guy's tutorial:   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/make-ubuntu-look-like-osxmac-608307/
[23:00] <antisocialist> i would look but i am too lazy
[23:00] <|SEF|> Jowi: Sorry, something happened with my Internet just now...
[23:00] <jakel1> lazy?
[23:00] <antisocialist> ok when you want themes, you gotta go to gnome-look.org
[23:00] <antisocialist> yes, i am lazy
[23:00] <jakel1> that is where i went...
[23:01] <antisocialist> ok
[23:01] <Jowi> |SEF|, is the router stand-alone or is the router connected to a separate modem?
[23:01] <antisocialist> then what was with the other site
[23:01] <antisocialist> you dont need a tutorial to install a theme
[23:01] <jakel1> that is the instructions i was following
[23:01] <antisocialist> o
[23:01] <antisocialist> ok
[23:01] <antisocialist> well its easy
[23:01] <jakel1> ok....
[23:01] <antisocialist> open up sys>prefs>appearance
[23:01] <jakel1> ok...
[23:01] <|SEF|> Jowi: I belive it's connected to a modem via a socket in the wall
[23:01] <jakel1> did that already
[23:01] <sint> hey, i wanna buy a wifi card. which chip is the best for linux, if i need wpa2?
[23:01] <jakel1> and hit install... then select the tar.gz file right?
[23:01] <antisocialist> the tab it is in will be theme
[23:02] <antisocialist> now click the .tar.gz archive and drag it to the theme thing, and release
[23:02] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok, I need to get this clarified. answer with Yes or No. socket -> modem -> router -> laptop + linux PC ?
[23:02] <puli> guys i removed the internet icon from my panel, how can i revert bak to my default panel
[23:02] <|SEF|> I think it's modem -> socket -> router ->laptop+linux
[23:02] <antisocialist> did that work
[23:02] <jakel1> i did that already
[23:03] <antisocialist> did it work though
[23:03] <puli> guys i removed the internet icon from my panel, how can i revert bak to my default panel
[23:03] <PirateHead> puli: The easiest thing to do is put the internet icon back on. Do you mean the Firefox icon, specifically?
[23:03] <|SEF|> Jowi: I think it's modem -> socket -> router ->laptop+linux
[23:03] <jakel1> it says correctly installed but then it doesn't show up in the theme manager window
[23:03] <|SEF|> Jowi: this PC is also Linux on Feisty Fawn
[23:03] <antisocialist> close the theme manager and open it again
[23:03] <jakel1> nope not there
[23:03] <puli> no the icon which shows different wireless internect connections
[23:03] <antisocialist> o, when it asks, you gotta say "yes, i would like to (something i cant remember)
[23:04] <maria> quick question: which is the command line to install a deb file? ie: sudo dpkg install package.deb ?
[23:04] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok, forget about the socket. so you have a separate modem. the modem is connected to the router. the 2 PC is connected to the router. correct?
[23:04] <PirateHead> puli: Ah, that's the network manager applet. To add it back to your panel, right click an empty space on the panel and select "Add to Panel..."
[23:04] <kitche> maria: dpkg -i package.deb
[23:04] <antisocialist> sudo aptitude install package name
[23:04] <puli> ok
[23:04] <puli> then?
[23:04] <antisocialist> maria
[23:04] <|SEF|> Jowi: Yes
[23:04] <Alex_Gaynor> I am trying to install my canon pixma ip1500 on gutsy using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanonPixmaIP1500 however I keep getting this error: http://dpaste.com/29686/
[23:04] <maria> kitche, thanks! ;)
[23:04] <antisocialist> np
[23:05] <atomdog2003> how do I get an irc server running on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[23:05] <jakel1> antisocialist: it never asked anything it jst said it was correctly installed
[23:05] <puli> piratehead i am not getting the network manager in there
[23:05] <Jowi> |SEF|, let's make this step as well just-in-case... have you tried to connect the PC to another router socket ?
[23:05] <PirateHead> puli: A list will pop up when you do that, and you should select "Notification Area" from that list.
[23:05] <antisocialist> ok jakel1
[23:06] <|SEF|> Jowi: Nope, I will try
[23:06] <Jowi> s/socket/port... gah
[23:06] <antisocialist> try picking one of your themes, and click customize
[23:06] <maria> Ah crap, I am falling in the cracks of dependency hell, ...which command line utility is similar to the RH's yum ?
[23:06] <antisocialist> then see if the mac4lin things are their
[23:06] <PirateHead> puli: Make sure you click "Add" after selecting Notification Area. It's near the bottom of the list on my computer.
[23:06] <atomdog2003> maria: apt-get
[23:06] <jakel1> ok
[23:06] <maria> atomdog2003, thanks
[23:06] <jakel1> wait... i think i got it
[23:06] <antisocialist> did that work
[23:06] <jakel1> now it's in there
[23:07] <antisocialist> k
[23:07] <JanC> effie_jayx: judging maria apt-get, aptitude, wajig, ...  ;)
[23:07] <jakel1> strange
[23:07] <atomdog2003> maria: apt-cache
[23:07] <JanC> eh
[23:07] <JanC> maria: apt-get, aptitude, wajig, ...  ;)
[23:07] <|SEF|> Jowi: Sorry, still not working
[23:07] <Alex_Gaynor> I am trying to install my canon pixma ip1500 on gutsy using this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanonPixmaIP1500 however I keep getting this error: http://dpaste.com/29686/ anyone on what is wrong?  I am on AMD64 and I get the impression that the problem is because the drivers are meant for i386 is there anything I can do about this?
[23:08] <squarebracket> can i use amarok to manage my ipod?
[23:08] <atomdog2003> how do I get an irc server running on ubuntu 7.10 ?
[23:08] <JanC> effie_jayx: judging from their website and openprinting.org, I think it won't work, unless they support emulation of some old printer language  :-/
[23:08] <PurpZeY> !ipod | squarebracket
[23:08] <ubotu> squarebracket: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[23:08] <squarebracket> awesome, thanks
[23:08] <zack> hey can someone help me with my video card ahhhh its driving me crazy
[23:08] <PirateHead> atomdog2003: It definitely looks like the x64 architecture is not supported by that package. That's one of the problems with non-free drivers -- if they aren't packaged for your architecture of choice, you're screwed.
[23:09] <ravun> is it possible to pin other applications to the desktop (pidgin) like you can with conky or the terminal?  using devilspie perhaps...
[23:09] <maria> wow...too much is like not enough...
[23:09] <atomdog2003> PirateHead:  you got the wrong guy
[23:09] <Jowi> |SEF|, brb. son woke up...
[23:09] <sayers> I have a cron tab to >> stuff to a file however it ends up at the bottom, how would I get it to the top?
[23:09] <PirateHead> Alex_Gaynor: It definitely looks like the x64 architecture is not supported by that package. That's one of the problems with non-free drivers -- if they aren't packaged for your architecture of choice, you're screwed.
[23:09] <PirateHead> sorry atomdog2003
[23:09] <|SEF|> Jowi: kk, thank you
[23:10] <squarebracket> hmm... so amarok should auto-detect the ipod? cuz it's not.
[23:10] <atomdog2003> sayers: mv the original stuff to another file (mv) write with a single > and then write the moved file back using >>
[23:11] <sayers> atomdog2003, That makes sense but an example would help a lot.
[23:11] <sayers> atomdog2003, */10 * * * * sensors -f | grep "CPU Temp" >> www/heat && uptime >> www/heat &&  echo >> www/heat && echo >> www/heat is my current cron tab
[23:11] <atomdog2003> sayers: so, say the file you want pre-pend stuff to a file called file.txt:   mv file.txt tmp.txt ; output > file.txt ; cat tmp.txt >> file.txt
[23:11] <kane77> so what is the best video player?
[23:12] <effie_jayx> JanC,  there are several printers that are compatibe
[23:12] <PirateHead> kane77: Depends on what your needs are. Are you watching DVDs?
[23:12] <PurpZeY> !best | kane77
[23:12] <ubotu> kane77: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[23:12] <effie_jayx> JanC,  an Epson 9 pin might do the trick
[23:12] <PurpZeY> kane77: Many use VLC media player
[23:12] <effie_jayx> It'll let you know
[23:12] <atomdog2003> sayers: in your case it looks like the filename is www/heat
[23:12] <PirateHead> kane77: VLC is very nice, but for DVDs Ogle is awesome.
[23:12] <kane77> PirateHead, sometimes... mostly I want to be able to easily add sbtitles (even change on fly)
[23:13] <sayers> atomdog2003, so with another cron tab do mv heat ~/tmp ; output > www/heat ; cat ~/tmp >> www/heat
[23:13] <PirateHead> kane77: You mean, you want to be able to add subtitles to videos that do not have them?
[23:13] <atomdog2003> sayers: I would just add that step to the command
[23:13] <norv> who knows where ruby documentation, the same style as ruby-doc.org, is stored in Ubuntu? or must I generate them by rdoc?
[23:13] <PirateHead> kane77: That would be a feature of a video editor, not viewer.
[23:13] <sayers> atomdog2003, Hm, well that's where I don't know how.
[23:13] <PirateHead> norv: Did you install the ruby documentation package?
[23:14] <kane77> PirateHead, no, just play with subtitles...
[23:14] <PirateHead> kane77: Play with, as in edit? Or as in view?
[23:14] <zack> does anyone know if theres the windows equivalent of a system restore on ubuntu
[23:14] <kane77> PirateHead, view
[23:14] <PirateHead> zack: Ask in ##windows
[23:14] <effie_jayx> made it work
[23:14] <PirateHead> kane77: Ogle lets you view subtitles in DVDs
[23:14] <effie_jayx> thanks JanC
[23:15] <norv> PirateHead: i've installed rdoc and ri, don't see any ruby-doc or some such package
[23:15] <norv> PirateHead: seeing as ri sees some, I figure it must exist somewhere
[23:15] <PirateHead> norv: I thought there was a ruby-doc package. If not, you'll have to build the docs yourself.
[23:15] <zack> piratehead, is I messed up my video driver but i am not quite sure how and i just want to undo whatever i did
[23:15] <JanC> effie_jayx: ah, good, many ticket printers support the old Epson ESC [ codes because a lot of old ticket software is still in use, I just wonder why they don't put that on their site  :-(
[23:16] <PirateHead> zack: Are you using Windows or Ubuntu? It sounded like you want to reproduce Ubuntu functionality on Windows. Is that accurate?
[23:16] <jeff__> can someone please guide me in the right direction to get sound working on my Vaio Laptop?
[23:16] <zack> ubuntu
[23:16] <effie_jayx> JanC,  But where can I find ESC driver...
[23:16] <Nrbelex>  /msg ubotu flash
[23:16] <norv> PirateHead: ri seems to find it but won't reveal what directory the html and such is in
[23:16] <effie_jayx> it's not in ubuntu
[23:16] <zack> piratehead, ubuntu
[23:16] <Jowi> |SEF|, nightmares. we'll see how long i can stay... is the connection settings for your ISP (username, password) entered in the modem or in the router?
[23:16] <JanC> you probably need an old Epson driver
[23:16] <|SEF|> Jowi: No problem, thank you for helping
[23:17] <PirateHead> norv: Perhaps locate or find or grep to search for it? Or ask dpkg where it installed the Ruby stuff.
[23:17] <|SEF|> Jowi: Through the modem, I think
[23:17] <zack> piratehead, no i just want to undo whatever i did, if i do a fresh install of ubuntu does it like bring back defalt settings?
[23:17] <PirateHead> zack: There's no easy rollback function, unfortunately.
[23:17] <PurpZeY> zack: fresh install, is a fresh install
[23:17] <|SEF|> Jowi: the only password we have had to use with the router was just the one to enter the Router page and the wireless password
[23:18] <PirateHead> !sound | zack
[23:18] <ubotu> zack: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:18] <jeff__> how do I get audio working on a pcg-tr3a
[23:18] <PirateHead> !audio | jeff__
[23:18] <ubotu> jeff__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:18] <crush_groove> chuckles
[23:18]  * Pelo hopes the first mockup on this page becomes the new default theme in hardy, if not , he hopes the guy puts it up on gnome-look, it is just yummy  http://mopedia.blogspot.com/2007/12/hardy-heron-theme-candidates.html
[23:18] <zack> piratehead, I am not having a problem with sound its my stupid ATI video card
[23:19] <JanC> effie_jayx: maybe try "Epson-Dot_Matrix"
[23:19] <Pelo> zack, restricted driver not working for you ? have you tried the binaries driver yet ?
[23:19] <squarebracket> PurpZeY: from the doc you gave me, it looks like amarok should auto-detect my ipod. do you know if this is the case?
[23:19] <PirateHead> zack: Oh, I got sound card out of that somehow.
[23:20] <PirateHead> zack: Try uninstalling and re-installing your video drivers, perhaps.
[23:20] <PirateHead> squarebracket: Amarok should auto-detect ipods, yes.
[23:20] <atomdog2003> sayers: sensors -f | grep "CPU Temp" > tmp.txt ; uptime >> tmp.txt ; echo >> tmp.txt ; echo >> tmp.txt ; mv www/heat tmp2.txt ; cat tmp.txt > www/heat ; cat tmp2.txt >> www/heat
[23:21] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok. you will need to check the modem settings (if the modem has got a web interface all is well). You will need to read your manual(s) on how to do this. I think there is a setting wrong somewhere in either your router or modem. Start with the modem. see if there is a MAC address that is entered in the modem. If that MAC address match the laptop that means that only the laptop can connect. Change it to the *routers* MAC address i
[23:21] <Jowi> f needed *or* set the modem to bridged mode and enter the connection settings in the router instead. I bet your ISP can guide you through that.
[23:21] <squarebracket> PirateHead: it's not auto-detecting mine.... any idea why?
[23:21] <sayers> atomdog2003, sadly above my head :)
[23:21] <Pelo> squarebracket, if it doesn'T off the bat,  go in , menu > system > prefs > removable media,  you can specify the prog to use when a portable music player is plugged it
[23:21] <Pelo> in
[23:21] <zack> Pelo, First I installed the binary and it was working fine but I couldnt do the screensavers at all, then i installed the restricted drivers and the screensavers worked but i couldnt do the visual effects at all
[23:22] <atomdog2003> sayers: cat is a program that dumps the contents of a file to stdout
[23:22] <PirateHead> squarebracket: Is it a brand-new iPod Classic? I've heard that those are having compatibility issues.
[23:22] <Pelo> zack, for the effects maybe you needed to install aixgl or whatever it is called
[23:22] <nomic> on gutsy the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards) even though it is ticked as 'in use' the driver doesn't load anyone know why this is?
[23:22] <atomdog2003> sayers: did you write that cron job?
[23:22] <Jowi> |SEF|, if you have no idea what I am talking about your ISP should be able to help.
[23:22] <zack> Pelo, then I think i installed aixgl,
[23:22] <squarebracket> pelo: i did. do i have to specify a mount point?
[23:22] <sayers> atomdog2003, yes I just wrote it
[23:22] <atomdog2003> does anyone know how to install an IRC server on Ubuntu ?
[23:22] <|SEF|> Jowi: Thank you, that will take some time so you may not be here when I am back, but I will look into that
[23:22] <|SEF|> Jowi: Thanks!
[23:22] <Pelo> zack, check in synaptic
[23:23] <pvl> (im almost embarrassed to ask) how do i know if imrunning 64 bit or 32 bit?
[23:23] <jakel1> quick question where is the install button for icon themes
[23:23] <atomdog2003> sayers: then you know that you are writing the output from the program "sensors" to a file named www/heat
[23:23] <Jowi> |SEF|, before you do though. you can see if the PC have internet if it is connected straight to the modem (leave the router out of it)
[23:23] <Pelo> squarebracket, not that I know of, it's just a place to tell which app to open when a music player is detected
[23:23] <jakel1> i cnt figure out how to install icons
[23:23] <pvl> jakeli u drag and drop the compressed files
[23:23] <norv> wow, must take a decade to generate the documentation
[23:23] <PirateHead> pvl: There's probably a sticker on your computer that says "AMD" or "Intel", and will have an x64 on it if you're running 64.
[23:23] <zack> pelo, and i enabled the restricted drivers and everything worked, but then it all went downhill and It seems like the videocard memory is not refreshing or something, everything works fine for a bit and then stops
[23:23] <Pelo> squarebracket, can you browse your ipod as a mass storage media ?
[23:23] <atomdog2003> sayers: I guess that file is availble thru http
[23:24] <jakel1> pvl: into where?
[23:24] <effie_jayx> JanC,  it prints but with a space in between
[23:24] <sayers> atomdog2003, sjsayers.com/heat it will be at
[23:24] <jeff__> why does this install of ubunut keep asking me for the CD!
[23:24] <pvl> PirateHead, matrox g450, should i just google?
[23:24] <squarebracket> PirateHead: i don't think so, it's my sister's old one.
[23:24] <pvl> jakel1, hold on
[23:24] <JanC> effie_jayx: at least you're getting close then  ;)
[23:24] <Jowi> |SEF|, if modem -> PC work, and modem -> laptop work then I would think the router is the faulty point.
[23:24] <Pelo> zack, since part of this has to do with effects, you can try asking in #compiz-fusion as well, someone in there mght know how to fix the problem
[23:24] <sayers> jeff__, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:24] <effie_jayx> JanC,  yep ... close enough :D
[23:24] <effie_jayx> it looks fine though
[23:24] <jeff__> sayers, what should i look for in there?
[23:25] <sayers> jeff__, something about a CD
[23:25] <squarebracket> pelo: no, i don't seem to be able to. is there a way i can browse /dev or something?
[23:25] <Pelo> jeff__, cause you've got the cd listed as a repos, you can disable that in  menu > system> admin > software sources,  first tab, just uncheck the cd at the bottom
[23:25] <atomdog2003> sayers: to append to the top instead of the bottum, just write the current contents to another file, then write the sensor output to that file as usual, then append the original contents back onto the file
[23:25] <pvl> jakel1, oi, nvm thats for themes, sorry
[23:25] <Pelo> squarebracket, if you know the devtree you can always try and mount it manualy
[23:25] <zack> pelo, thanks ill try that
[23:25] <sayers> atomdog2003, ah, sorta makes sense now, copy all the stuff to another file and then put the new at the top and copy over
[23:25] <squarebracket> pelo: i don't... is there any way i can find it out?
[23:26] <Pelo> squarebracket, I'm not very knowledgable about ipod stuff,  I recommend you give the forum a search , most problems are probably covered
[23:26] <jeff__> thanks pelo!
[23:26] <atomdog2003> sayers: right
[23:26] <Pelo> squarebracket, blkid in the terminal
[23:26] <Pelo> jeff__,  np
[23:26] <JanC> effie_jayx: I guess there might be drivers for other Epson dot-matrix printers that work better--maybe contact the openprinting.org people (e.g. Till Kampeter who works on the Ubuntu printer drivers) if they know more about it
[23:26] <squarebracket> pelo: alright, i'll do that. thanks for the help.
[23:26] <atomdog2003> sayers: I used "cat" to write the contents of a file to another
[23:26] <|SEF|> Jowi:  Hmmm, I'm a bit reluctant to connect my PC directly to the modem because I have heard that machines should always be connected to the Internet via a router if I'm using high speed
[23:27] <PirateHead> pvl: run the command "uname -m"
[23:27] <Jowi> |SEF|, if you run a standard ubuntu install you should be quite safe.
[23:27] <PirateHead> pvl: If you're on x64, it should say "i686_64"
[23:27] <norv> |SEF|: that also only applies when you have a router with firewall/NAT
[23:27] <jakel1> oops... i lost my bottom panel... the one that shows the icons when a window is minimized . how can i get it back
[23:27] <|SEF|> Jowi: I have a Windows dualbooting but I am on Ubuntu right now; should that be a problem?
[23:27] <beezelbub> is there something like menumeters (on mac) for ubuntu? i've tried system monitor, but that doesn't really cut it for me.
[23:28] <pvl> PirateHead, says it cant find the command
[23:28] <Pelo> |SEF|, I'm connected directly to a modem, the trick with the router is that you don'T need to put the connection info in the comp and you do not need to wait for the comp to connect after you restart
[23:28] <PirateHead> pvl: no such command as uname? That should be installed by default.
[23:28] <WinterWeaver> jakeli, <alt><f1> .... get you into the menu....
[23:28] <Pelo> beezelbub, what does menumeters do ?
[23:28] <pvl> PirateHead, oops i ran it wrong, forgot to take of the quotes
[23:28] <norv> well menumeters is GPL, always a chance it could build with GNUStep's libraries
[23:28] <WinterWeaver> jakeli, then... I think... it's .... accesories >> add panel
[23:29] <Jowi> |SEF|, no problem. but great you can doublecheck if windows has got internet connection through the router.
[23:29] <pvl> PirateHead, i686 means?
[23:29] <|SEF|> norv: I'm not sure that my router has that actually, thanks for bringing it up
[23:29] <|SEF|> Pelo: Thanks!
[23:29] <PirateHead> pvl: That means you're on an x86 machine, or 32-bit.
[23:29] <beezelbub> Pelo: it's like system monitor but easier to grok: http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/#sshot
[23:29] <|SEF|> Jowi: The other computer (on Windows) is connected to the Internet right now
[23:29] <jakel1> WinterWeaver... I have a new panel... but it doesn't show the windows when i minimize them....
[23:29] <jakel1> they just disappear
[23:29] <|SEF|> Jowi: it's also connected to the router via a wire
[23:29] <pvl> PirateHead, k thanks!
[23:29] <WinterWeaver> jakeli ... right click on the panel
[23:30] <WinterWeaver> customize
[23:30] <jakel1> ok
[23:30] <andreas> hello
[23:30] <WinterWeaver> find the "window List" applet
[23:30] <jakel1> there is no customize.. but there is properties
[23:30] <Jowi> |SEF|, ok. i misunderstood. If you call the ISP, the first thing they will do is to tell you to connect straight to the modem anyway so you can try that (I would).
[23:30] <andreas> i have a file tha i want to be password protected
[23:30] <andreas> how do i do that?
[23:30] <PirateHead> andreas: Encrypt it.
[23:30] <Pelo> beezelbub, if you are just looking for the graphs there are gdesklets and screenlets that can give you that, and a few pannel aps will give you similar info
[23:30] <andreas> can you be more specific pls?
[23:30] <WinterWeaver> jakeli.. sorry... add to panel
[23:30] <Pelo> beezelbub, also conky and gkrllm I thnk it is called
[23:31] <|SEF|> Jowi: OK, hang on, I'll be d/c'd for a bit
[23:31] <WinterWeaver> jakeli... find it?
[23:31] <beezelbub> Pelo: thanks, i'll look into those
[23:31] <WinterWeaver> jakeli .. sorry ... i'm not in the gnome atm
[23:31] <andreas> hello anybody?????????
[23:32] <WinterWeaver> jakeli... so I'm not exactly sure what the menu's is called
[23:32] <Pelo> hello andreas
[23:32] <Jowi> andreas, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-or-unix-password-protecting-files.html
[23:32] <Pelo> andreas, you were not being ignored,  this is a busy channel
[23:32] <andreas> sorry
[23:32] <cornixx> Hm, how do I access shared NFS folders from another linux system
[23:32] <cornixx> ?
[23:33]  * Pelo can recall when there were only 1000 ppl in this channel 
[23:33] <taggie> cornixx, use the gnome "places" menu, and select "Connect to Server"
[23:33] <cornixx> ah, k, thx! :)
[23:34] <py77> a
[23:34] <norv> how hard would it be to do something like wrap Carbon apps in gtk? I know wrapping QT with GTK failed miserably
[23:34] <taggie> np. it's way too easy these days. :)
[23:35] <WinterWeaver> jakeli, you still there?
[23:35] <Pelo> norv, this might be the wrong place to ask
[23:35] <WinterWeaver> jakel1, you still there bud?
[23:35] <norv> Pelo: well, where would I?
[23:36] <Pelo> norv, not sure,  maybe in the gnome channel , or possibly the ppl in ##linux might have a better idea of where to direct you
[23:36] <norv> Pelo: Carbon/Cocoa devs would get quite hostile
[23:36] <Quicksilva> when i use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure a xorg.conf file it makes one that doesn't work, x server doesnt load.  is there a more effective and better way of creating one?
[23:36] <Pelo> norv, have you considered looking for a gnome alternative ?
[23:37] <stoodleysnow> Hello everyone I'm recording a video :-)
[23:37] <norv> Pelo: Oh, I use xfce, but that's gtk too
[23:37] <Pelo> norv,  the gnome / kde rivalry is highly overratter
[23:37] <norv> Pelo: err, that was an example
[23:37] <mattholimeau> question: most apps seem to depend on the desktop software, be it gnome, kde, other, is this true?
[23:37] <norv> Pelo: i'm talking about wrapping Cocoa with GTK, not anything to do with qt
[23:37] <|SEF|> Jowi:  ....sorry for all your time
[23:37] <boxybrown> hi
[23:37] <|SEF|> Jowi: I restarted the laptop and now it can connect to Google...
[23:37] <|SEF|> Jowi: I should have done that first >___<""
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I feel like a bug on the windshield of life.  I cant figure out a problem getting ubuntu to connect to the internet.  Windows can (dual boot XP) and Ubuntu can when directly connected to the modem just not through the router.  I can bring up the router info at 192.168.0.1  I need another clear mind to look at this
[23:39] <nicholas> Hi.
[23:39] <Pelo> mattholimeau, there are several cli apps but most ppl now like to have a gui ,  you can find loads of cli apps online if you want them,  there are also several in the repos
[23:39] <Mr_Sonoma> mattholimeau, no, a Gnome app will run in KDE just fine. it will just have the Gnome look
[23:39] <jakel1> is there a way to align all my icons on the right instead of on the left
[23:39] <jakel1> in gnome that is
[23:39] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, static ip ?
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[23:39] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  and did you specify the static ip in ubuntu &?
[23:40] <nicholas> Does anyone know how to load audio files (such as MP3s) into LMMS?
[23:40] <Pelo> nicholas, can't you load them from the app itself ?
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I have fought this too long.. I need to have someone walk me through from the start.. I had to have mssed something
[23:40] <nicholas> It says format not supporte.d
[23:40] <nicholas> supported*
[23:40] <Pelo> someone ban xbris
[23:40] <norv> jakel1: should be able to move the icons if yo are referring to the Applications bar one
[23:40] <nicholas> Or is there something I don't know how to do?
[23:40] <MrFeetio> something that bugged me off and on for the last 2 years..... when I have a fullscreen game open none of my shortcuts work(alt-tab, media keys, ctr+alt+arrowkeys), is there a fix or work around for this?
[23:40] <mattholimeau> thanks pelo and Mr_Sonoma - that's what i was looking for
[23:40] <jakel1> no i am  talking about the icons on my desktop
[23:40] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  the ppl in #networking can probably do rigth by you on this
[23:41] <nicholas> Pelo
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I did not specify anything.  without the router. it just worked.  I took it over to the guys house and could not connect for anything
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks.. will try that
[23:41] <norv> jakel1: if there isn't an align option on right-click, then the only way is with patching
[23:42] <Pelo> nicholas, go in synaptic and install all the gstreamer0.10  pacakges,  lame and mpeg123 and mpeg321 , that should cover it
[23:42] <norv> jakel1: an awful lot of Gnome configuration is actually inside the source code
[23:42] <WinterWeaver> hat command do I use to run a file browser in OpenBox?
[23:42] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, did this guy have is router set to only use staticip is my point
[23:42] <WinterWeaver> what*
[23:42] <norv> jakel1: but, you don't have to use Nautilus as your desktop root-window.
[23:42] <Pelo> WinterWeaver, nautilus ?
[23:42] <ChrisAshton84> hi I've added a directory to path which contains a new version of a program (cc)... however if I start a new shell with env setting PATH correctly, which cc still shows /usr/bin/cc
[23:42] <ChrisAshton84> anyone able to help fix this?
[23:43] <Pelo> back later boys
[23:43] <Pelo> and gals
[23:43] <WinterWeaver> Pelo, I thought it might have something different... ok... will use that
[23:43] <WinterWeaver> thank
[23:43] <ChrisAshton84> PATH is being set correctly with env PATH=/new/dir:$PATH
[23:43] <biola> anyone got ksysguardd to work with ubuntu ?
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I did a hard reset on the dlink.. did not check, the other computers on the router at his house connect fine even after the reset
[23:44] <ChrisAshton84> also I can ls /new/path and see cc... and it's not just a typo or anything
[23:44] <squarebracket> if i were mounting a fat32 drive, would it be mount -t vfat ?
[23:45] <WinterWeaver> boo
[23:46] <ChrisAshton84> If I do which cc I get /usr/bin/cc but if I do /usr/bin/which cc I get /new/dir/cc
[23:46] <nicholas> Pelo: mpeg123 or mpg123?
[23:48] <junkie>  im about to image my hard drive on my laptop with gentoo.  there's a chance i will have to switch laptops, and i assume i cannot use the same image on a new machine.  is that correct?
[23:49] <junkie> ubuntu 7.04
[23:49] <junkie> ooops
[23:49] <Malik__> hey can some1 help me out
[23:49] <Phusion> junkie: thats right man
[23:49] <Malik__> i downlaoded and installed linux and rite now i hav xp and linux on 1 compuetr
[23:49] <Phusion> junkie: different hardware, probably wont work
[23:49] <Malik__> i wanan get rid of xp
[23:50] <Malik__> how do i do that
[23:50] <Malik__> how do i get rid of a a scond os
[23:50] <Malik__> ??
[23:50] <Phusion> Malik_: well, you can delete the partition
[23:50] <andromedia> its my frist time to install ubuntu
[23:50] <Malik__> wat do u mean
[23:50] <Malik__> does that mean that each os is unstalled ona diffrent partition
[23:50] <Phusion> Malik_: Windows XP is sitting on a seperate partition than Linux
[23:50] <exile> heheh. if you have ANYTHING you want to keep, don't delete your partition
[23:50] <Phusion> yes.
[23:50] <Malik__> i donot think its that way
[23:50] <andromedia> but Im dont now the software cant using ubuntu
[23:51] <Phusion> Malik_: if you have two functioning OSs, they're on different partitions
[23:51] <Malik__> o they r
[23:51] <Phusion> Malik_: Windows uses either the FAT32 or NTFS filesystem, Linux uses EXT
[23:51] <Malik__> well how do i check which is on which
[23:51] <Phusion> so they need to be different
[23:51] <Malik__> o
[23:51] <Phusion> do you have anything you want to save from your windows partition? My Documents? games? anything?
[23:51] <Phusion> :/
[23:52] <Malik__> nope
[23:52] <Phusion> Malik__: ok, well there are several ways to remove a partition
[23:52] <junkie> Phusion just curious, for example, when i installed BT2 i literally copied all the contents of the CD into my HDD without any actual installation.  so there's a chance that maybe its universal?
[23:52] <exile> boot from a linux cd that has gparted or qtparted on it
[23:52] <Phusion> yeah
[23:52] <junkie> knowing that it is live
[23:52] <exile> then delete the fat or ntfs partition
[23:52] <Malik__> can u gimem 1
[23:53] <Malik__> o
[23:53] <exile> then resize the ext partition to full size
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: Be aware that making a change to any partition will change the uuid for all partitions on that drive.
[23:53] <Malik__> uuid?
[23:53] <exile> ubuntu has it i think. if not knoppix does for sure
[23:53] <Malik__> my other compuetr has 2 xps the same problem 1 is home and 1 is pro
[23:53] <Malik__> lemme get rid of pro ont that first
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: Yes, uuid.. and I would politely suggest you just format the existiong partition and use it for your seperate /home
[23:53] <Creed> Where is libtcl.so?
[23:54] <Malik__> so i donot know which is on which partiton case they r both xps
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > Malik__
[23:54] <Malik__> wait i think it says it on the boot menu
[23:54] <Phusion> Creed: thats part of a TCL package, there's probably a package that will install that requirement
[23:54] <Malik__> o amn iam doomed
[23:55] <invalidsyntax> anyone know of a good screen recorder for linux?
[23:55] <Malik__> i hav to dumb xps rite now
[23:55] <Beetle_> What is the name of the default torrent client after installing ubuntu?
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt   will create a text file with your partition info
[23:55] <Malik__> lemme try that
[23:55] <Phusion> Creed: try opening the Synaptic Package Manager and typing in tcl
[23:55] <WinterWeaver> beetle_ : bittorrent
[23:55] <WinterWeaver> beetle_: but install deluge
[23:55] <WinterWeaver> ^_^
[23:55] <Phusion> Beetle_: "Bittorrent" or "Bittornado"
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: YOu need to use shift when pasting or copying from the cli/terminal
[23:55] <Phusion> yeah, deluge is nice.
[23:55] <Creed> Phusion, I've installed tcl8.2 - 8.5 and i cant find it...guess its just a symbolic link to libtclX.X.so
[23:55] <Beetle_> Thanks ppl:)
[23:55] <Phusion> hrmm
[23:55] <Malik__> lol i donto get it...
[23:56] <mattholimeau> so - i'm trying to get my ipod working with rhythmbox... still unsuccessful... it was suggested in here a bit ago that i remove the package and install from source - but i'm getting configuration errors... anyone mind lending me a hand?
[23:56] <Phusion> well, the tcl package should satisfy that dependancy
[23:56] <Malik__> lemme jus explain u rmy problem again
[23:56] <Malik__> i hav t xps on 1 computr and i wanan delte home and keep pro to put linux on
[23:56] <Phusion> Malik__: we understand your problem
[23:56] <Malik__> so how can i do that?
[23:56] <mike4785> hi all
[23:56] <dsnyders> Hi all.  Can someone point me towards a good duplicate file removal tool?
[23:56] <Malik__> and i donot know which is which partition
[23:56] <Malik__> i hav 2 c and d
[23:56] <evgeni> "rm" :)
[23:56] <Phusion> Malik__:  you need to boot from a linux live cd and select the NTFS partition and delete it
[23:57] <Malik__> but wait i donot know which is pro
[23:57] <mike4785> noob question here
[23:57] <Malik__> and which is home
[23:57] <Phusion> Malik__: neither do we
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: Are you running livecd now?  if so run the command I gave so we can help you figure it out
[23:57] <mike4785> i know beryl and some others are out there but whats the most used
[23:57] <mike4785> and also whats the easiest way to install beryl
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[23:57] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[23:57] <dsnyders> evgeni, <sarcastic> ha, ha.
[23:57] <Malik__> i hav burned th elinux but donot wanan install it rite now
[23:58] <Malik__> first i wanan fix my stupid problem
[23:58] <ravun_> !compiz
[23:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:58] <fodalo> hi guys
[23:58] <mike4785> thanks
[23:58] <Creed> Can Ubuntu use YUM package manager?
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: Boot the live cd to figure it out.. it will not install until you tell it to do so
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !yum
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <Phusion> Creed: there is support for RPM's, but Ubuntu uses apt-get and Synaptic to manage packages
[23:58] <fodalo> how i can install  my graphic card in ubuntu?? its a Mobile Intel® Media Accelerator X3100
[23:58] <kitche>  Creed no that's for rpm distros
[23:59] <Malik__> alrite u sure the cd will tell me which cp is on which partition?
[23:59] <mk> I'm having much trouble getting my onboard raid controller to work, enabling it halts windows. what are the odds of ubuntu working out ok? I've got 2 fresh drives. I want mirroring
[23:59] <Malik__> fine i'll do it
[23:59] <fodalo> i checked in the administration drivers and i only see the wireless :X
[23:59] <Creed> oktanouc, guess Ill stick with manually wget'ting the file and using alien.
[23:59] <Creed> agh stupid autocomplete
[23:59] <Phusion> fodalo: surely you asked google this before us
[23:59] <jeff__> I am having trouble with my sound still... I have gone through the help websites and I still cant get anywhere.  I did discover that there is a slight amount coming from my headphones, its just not loud.
[23:59] <Kevin`> mk if it's a bios raid controller I suggest you not use it
[23:59] <fodalo> i tried Phusion
[23:59] <fodalo> :x
[23:59] <Phusion> Creed: dude, you can use apt-get!
[23:59] <Phusion> Creed: sudo apt-get install package-name
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Creed: Be aware alien is a dangerous way to go...
[23:59] <Kevin`> mk the work is done in software/the driver so it has no benefit over MD raid
[23:59] <ravun_> not from this planet
[23:59] <nicholas> Hi.