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Camish_crimsun: Thanks. Do you know of any program with a gui?00:00
crimsunnot offhand, perhaps google does.00:00
Camish_Any suggestion what to search for?00:01
XxValetexXomg00:08
XxValetexXI love xubuntu =~~~~~~00:08
XxValetexXIts much better then ubuntu and kubuntu00:09
XxValetexXxfce beats gnome and kde I love it =~~~00:09
slow-motionn800:17
defendguini'm gonna try to install on a 150 mhz processor with 128 mb of ram this should be interesting01:01
XxValetexXhello01:14
AzMooHey, I'm trying to install a Xubuntu LTSP server, but on installation it tells me that Building the LTSP chroot has failed. In syslog it gives the message: "Couldn't find package linux-image-386". Any ideas why?01:19
AzMoooddly enough, I just tried it again and it worked beautifully. No changes, all I did was press OK on the error and selected the menu option again.01:27
XwarlokX82weird..probably just some random glitch01:28
AzMooMaybe something to do with LVM?01:28
AzMooalthough, seems to be a known issue.01:28
XwarlokX82maybe so01:38
XxValetexXhello01:40
XxValetexXCan anybody tell me how to increase the size of the fonts in xubuntu?01:40
XxValetexXthey are currently very small and hard to read01:40
XwarlokX82Applications>Settings>User Interface01:41
XwarlokX82Off to the right of that window there will be a font type and size selector, you can adjust/change it there.01:41
XxValetexXXwarlokX82: I tried that, it chanches the size of some fonts01:42
XxValetexXXwarlokX82: but when I opne firefox or irc, the font of the text remain small01:42
XwarlokX82XxValetexX, are you talking about the font in irc?01:42
XwarlokX82if using xchat, go to settings>preferences and you can change it there by clicking on the text box selection.01:43
XxValetexXXwarlokX82: no, the title of the windows increase01:43
XxValetexXXwarlokX82: but the text inside the applications, any applicantion, doesnt01:43
XxValetexXXwarlokX82: I'll try restarting and see if t works01:44
XxValetexXbe right back01:44
XxValetexXx_001:49
XxValetexXhey people02:01
XxValetexXdoes anybody else have problems setting font size in xubuntu?02:01
XxValetexXFraeon: hello02:04
FraeonSo... my internet connection refuses to work at boot and needs an ifup/ifdown to work properly02:04
FraeonAnd it's driving me nuts02:04
XxValetexXFraeon: I think most ppl here are idling x_002:04
FraeonI don't mind02:05
FraeonIt's 4 am and I can do a log search if someone gives me a clue what could be causing this02:05
XxValetexXFraeon: man I need to get to know commands in terminal and config files02:05
XxValetexXI am completely new to this linux stuff02:05
XxValetexXbut so far I had a lot of problems that I think come from DEs02:06
XxValetexX>_>02:06
FraeonMy problem isn't DE related02:06
FraeonIt's network related02:06
XxValetexXFraeon: its like, when I use KDE theres a set of problems, with Gnome another, and now another with Xfce02:06
FraeonI think it has to do with the pcnet32 driver02:06
XxValetexX:(02:06
XxValetexXFraeon:  do you use Xubuntu as well?02:07
FraeonYup02:07
XxValetexX=}02:07
XxValetexXFraeon: just by curiiosity, did you have problems with your fonts?02:07
FraeonWhat sort of problems are we talking about?02:08
XxValetexXI set the font size in configurations02:08
XxValetexXthe size of a few fonts change but02:08
XxValetexXhmm how can I explain it...the size of fonts inside applications remains the same02:08
XxValetexXthe menus change etc, but the size of the fonts in irc, firefox etc remains dman small02:09
XxValetexXsans 9 I believe its the default x_x02:09
XxValetexXFraeon: apparently few ppl use xubuntu :S02:10
XxValetexXso I havent been able tto sort it out on forums etc xD02:11
Fraeonhttp://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-more-on-fixing-fonts-problems.html02:11
Fraeonhttp://davyd.livejournal.com/197752.html02:11
FraeonRequires terminal use but...02:12
XxValetexXFraeon:  oh ty =D02:12
FraeonRiiiiight, so it has to do with the routing table not being filled properly02:19
FraeonReally, you could write a book on these problems02:19
Groovestixhey folks! here's an easy question. How can I make Xubuntu not go to sleep (turn off monior automatically) ?03:30
soldatsive been trying to figure this out for a while and i have no clue03:43
soldatsits the only thing that pisses me off, i was told to try gnome-power-manager but it didnt work03:44
AzMooYou have to modify xorg.conf and set a few options to 003:47
AzMooOption "blank time" "0", "standby time" "suspend time" and "off time"03:47
AzMooUnder the ServerFlags section03:47
soldatsoh man thanks i havent messed with xorg in such a long time i totaly spaced the possibility of it. well i hope it works thanks03:48
AzMoosoldats: no prob. Remember to restart X!04:03
soldatsyuh04:03
AzMooPeople always forget that one ;)04:03
misterblonde2517hi, i was wondering if anyone would be able to help me install compiz fusion/emerald04:26
TheSheep!compiz04:29
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion04:29
misterblonde2517thank you04:29
Groovestixsoldats, AzMoo: how do I edit xorg?04:36
soldatsGroovestix, sorry i wanted to wait past the default 10 minutes to make sure it worked so now that it has...04:51
Groovestixno prob04:51
soldatsyou can edit it with gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:51
soldatsor you can type man xorg.conf in a terminal and read all about it and about the warnings04:52
soldatsumm but if you man xorg.conf it will tell you that you can do it in two ways as in adding some options to the ServerLayout section or in my case i just made a new section called servertags and added the options to it04:55
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AzMooIs there a way to set the apt mirror during installation? It seems that http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ is down, and it's screwing up my installations when it times out.05:36
soldatslook in /etc/apt/sources.list and you should be able to change them there05:42
misterblonde2517does anyone have a good walktrough to help me isntall compiz05:54
AzMoosoldats: Doesn't exist on the boot cd. It's in the "target" directory, but it's only got the CD06:07
soldatsare you on a liveCD06:11
AzMooIt's the Xubuntu Alternate06:11
AzMooGutsy06:11
soldatsahh i figured if you had the full livecd you maybe able to download apt-mirror and try that, im not sure if it will work06:12
mindframe_which folder does xfce store configuration information in?06:17
mindframe_i cant seem to save settings between logins06:17
soldatsAzMoo, since your in #ubuntu ask there they might have had the same problem06:17
soldatswhen you logout did you click save session06:18
mindframe_soldats no i unchecked it :)06:18
mindframe_firefox thinks its running when its really not06:18
mindframe_i told xfce not to automatically save session on logout, yet when i hit the quit button it has the box checked :)06:19
soldatsif it says that then do pgrep firefox and see if its in a backround06:19
mindframe_its not06:19
AzMoosoldats: Yeah, I did but nobody really knew. They just said wait until  it's finished then change the mirror, but by then it's stuffed. I'm going to try it without configuring the network interface at all.06:20
soldatsthat may work06:21
groovestixhey soldats, have you figured out the xorg stuff?06:22
soldatsmindframe_, i think most config files are in /usr/share/xfce406:22
soldatsgroovestix, the screen timeout part06:23
groovestixyes!06:23
soldatsyea i added a new section and added the options and its fine now06:23
* soldats is happy now06:23
groovestixis it noob-friendly thing to do?06:24
groovestix*a06:24
soldatsslightly06:24
soldatsif you post your xorg.conf to www.pastebin.com ill add the new lines06:25
groovestixcool, well can you tell me? also this might be a useful thing to immortalize somewhere06:25
groovestixsounds good!06:25
soldatsdidnt you change your nick and go to ubuntu and now you changed it back06:26
soldatsalso sorry the other night i ended up having to leave so i never ws able to see if you got everything working right with your innstall06:26
groovestixYes that was me.. although I didn't do it on purpose06:27
soldatsahh ok06:27
groovestixso no, I don't wear tinfoil hats...06:28
groovestix:)06:28
groovestixhttp://pastebin.com/d2959e32306:29
AzMoosoldats: Yup, it worked. Didn't configure the network and stopped the dhcp from picking up and it went straight through without checking for updates. Now I can boot into it and fix up the mirror.06:30
soldatsAzMoo, nice im glad06:31
soldatsgroovestix, ok well i got some strange error so i made a new one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50471/ the very bottom where it says "Section ServerFlags" is the new stuff you need to add so add the whole section06:36
groovestixwtf happened?!06:36
groovestixI know! I just got it too06:36
groovestixlooking good! let me try it06:38
soldatssomething must have happened to their server06:38
groovestixtoo many people are switching to Ubuntu!?06:39
groovestix:)06:39
soldatslol but yea add the line 98 through 103 to your file the save and restart X06:40
groovestixokay! I copied pasted everything, but it's safe to go with the lines only so lemme do it again06:41
groovestixvery nice... restarting restarting...06:43
soldatsi guess youll have to wait about 11 minutes to be sure it worked06:44
groovestixwhy 11?06:44
soldatsthe default to turn off screen is 10 minutes so if after 11 minutes of not turning off id assume it works06:45
groovestixalright, that makes sense06:45
soldats:)06:45
groovestixI was gonna ask, do you know some good guide to clean up Xubuntu?06:46
groovestixI only wanna use it for storage, and BOINC machine06:46
groovestixbut I couldn't do it with cli because I suck06:46
groovestixon the terminal06:46
soldatswell what packages do you not want06:46
groovestixhmmm I don't really know... :(06:49
groovestixoh wait06:50
groovestixI found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=addca6e9c0c4d7382bc99f41400f23a5&t=14092006:50
groovestixseems interesting06:50
soldatsprobly wont be what you need06:51
soldatsim sure your thinking of removing packages you dont need06:51
groovestixI see, junk and packages are different things06:52
soldatsyes06:52
soldatsremoving wrong files can be dangerous06:52
groovestixoh crap! wtf! I opened synaptic and the system froze.. alright, this machine definitely needs a new chipset... hopefully xorg isn't screwed up again06:54
soldatsif theres a package you dont want you can use synaptic package manager and remove it or use add/remove to remove them or in a terminal type "sudo apt-get remove <appname>" without quotes or <>06:54
soldatsoh damn well try the add/remove program06:55
soldatsapplications > system > add/remove06:55
groovestixwell I cleaned nearly all that I don't use06:55
groovestix(I am booting now)06:55
soldatsthere are other ways to get around haveing to reboot if it freezes but im sure youll learn eventually06:57
soldatsif its something you want to learn that is06:57
groovestixof course I do06:58
groovestixctrl-alt-F2 ?06:58
soldatswell i mean do that and you can pgrep what ever froze to find out the PID and kill it07:00
soldatsor run top if you dont know the name of the program07:00
groovestixI see07:03
groovestixwell I hope I freeze again, so we could see what's going on...07:03
groovestixi have 192 ram (yes I know it's old) but I get the feeling that I always freeze when I have opened few things at once07:04
soldatsyuh thats a big possibility i think xubuntu normally wants at least 256 to run "fairly" smooth, i lag a bunch if i have too much stuff open but i dont think it fully froze before07:06
soldatsi has 256mb07:06
soldatsmy comp is an old POS as well07:06
groovestixI can has ram!? rolfmaooO!07:06
groovestix:)07:06
soldatshttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage.jpg07:09
soldatsfor the lulz07:09
groovestixhahahahahah!07:09
groovestixmy favorite07:10
groovestixhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/omgwtfknockfirst.jpg07:10
soldatslol i havent seen that in a long time, i thought it was kinda funny they started adding "watermark" type things to the pics uploaded07:12
soldatssuch a good picture though07:12
groovestix:) did you hear about the Lolcat bible?07:15
soldatsyuh a while back i dont remember though07:16
groovestixhttp://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_107:17
soldatslol me wrikey07:18
groovestixwtf, there's even an audio version of it07:19
soldatsha07:21
groovestixhey!07:26
* soldats looks up07:27
groovestixIs there a ctrl-alt del command in Xubuntu?07:27
groovestix:)07:27
soldatsi think it shuts down07:28
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groovestixyesterday my "System monitor" hanged and I couldn't close it.07:29
groovestixthe only way I know to close things like that is exactly through system monitor. :(07:29
soldatswell you can type "top" in a terminal and its a cli system monitor, you can use it to "kill" apps by getting the PID07:30
groovestixso the command is sudo kill PID# ?07:31
soldatsyou dont really need sudo07:32
groovestixoh ok07:32
soldatsbut for example kill 8987 would kill my firefox07:33
groovestixI see... simple enough07:33
selig5what is the valid install path for firefox? it seems not to be /usr/lib/mozilla. I am trying to install adobe-flash.07:33
soldats~./mozilla?07:34
groovestixcrap! so it froze again... I tried ctrl-alt-F2 without any results...07:34
selig5I'll try that...07:35
selig5Nope, it has to be a directory.07:36
soldatsmaybe /usr/share/firefox im not sure i havent installed flash in a long time07:36
soldatswell ./mozilla is a directory the tilde means your home directory07:37
selig5ok, I'll try that. of course, it says my browser shouldn't be running when I do the install...07:37
soldatsno its fine just restart it when its done07:38
selig5hmm07:39
groovestixany ideas soldats ?07:40
soldatswhat maed it freezed07:40
groovestixfirefox07:41
groovestixit's really weird07:42
soldatsfirefox has lots of memory leaks so on a box with little ram to spare id assume it would happen every once in a while, but i wonder why its freezing so much07:44
groovestixit's definitely the chipset... I don't see anything else07:46
groovestixas a problem07:46
groovestixit doesn't overheat, since I run BOINC07:46
groovestixand the ram is intact (I ran memtest)07:46
soldatshmm that may be then, kinda sucks07:46
groovestixI wonder if I can find affordable replacement... usually ebay has lots of stuff floating around07:47
soldatscraigslist07:48
soldatsyardsales07:48
soldatsive found pretty decent stuff for real cheap07:48
groovestixthe cool stuff is that I bought replacement parts for my toshiba laptop that were broken for about $5007:49
groovestixmostly it was the plastic that holds the monitor and the keyboard, but Toshiba probably would've asked for much more07:50
soldatsyuh well 50 doesnt seem too bad07:52
groovestix(shipping handling included)07:53
soldats0o nice07:53
groovestix:)07:54
groovestixbut uh, I better go now, gotta sleep... thanks very much for all the information.. it seems like I can't get enough of it07:56
soldatslol yuh its late here as well ill see yah later07:58
soldats@Phoenix07:58
soldatsstupid time crap not working now08:00
groovestixlatre08:01
soldats‮‮ see yah08:02
soldatsmmm backwards typing08:02
inktreeyo who is here my good peoples10:08
nick4Haappy new year :) I've got a little question. I just updated to 7.10 and Firefox 2.0.11 misplaces elements such as text and images. When I hover the mouse over then, they just "jump". This happens even for images on the chrome (like the close-tab button). Any ideas on what is wrong?12:02
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ciaohiiiiiiii16:48
ciaoshift super + button1 = burn effect...soooo cool I'm loving xubuntu16:49
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DagakaI installed xubuntu with sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop but now I don't seem to have any icons in OpenOffice anymore in Xubuntu but its fine in GNOME?17:59
Disastrowhy is xubuntu so damn slow?18:40
Disastroand how to make it faster?18:41
seisenwhat are the specs of you computer Disastro18:47
Disastro50/50 solved18:51
Disastrohow to change ubuntu and xubuntu to use thunar?18:52
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evil_techretarded question: whats the command to list the entire contents of all directories and subdirectories?20:51
viddls -alr maybe?20:56
evil_techhmm let me try20:56
evil_technope20:56
evil_techdoesnt look in directories20:57
vinzeevil_tech, ls -R ?20:58
evil_techthat did it20:58
vinze:)20:59
vinzeman ls20:59
viddi forgot the r is capital!20:59
evil_techalways forget to capitalize20:59
vinze(Though -R is often recursive :)20:59
evil_techshould have remembered that since that is how you rm directories21:00
zoredacheof course I kinda prefer using 'find .' I like the format better21:12
evil_techwell i was going to pipe the output of ls -R to find to locate a file21:13
zoredacheeh?21:13
zoredacheyou where going to pipe to find, or pipe to grep?21:14
zoredachefind . -iname 'pattern.*'21:14
evil_techgrep21:14
evil_techif i can figure out how to tell me the full path to what i want21:15
zoredacheI think find is what you want.  It will show you the entire path21:15
zoredacheor you could use locate if the file has been around for a while21:16
zoredachelocate filename21:16
evil_techtried locate said the database was too old21:16
zoredacherun 'sudo updatedb'21:17
evil_techim using the live cd since knoppix wouldnt boot21:17
zoredacheoh... a livecd ignore the locate/updatedb then21:17
zoredachewhat are you looking for anyway?21:18
evil_techi tried find but it says it cant find the file or directory21:18
evil_techa .dll on a windows drive21:18
evil_techits spyware and mucking things up21:18
zoredacheso you did something like: find /mountpoint -iname 'filename.dll'21:19
evil_techi opened a command line in the root of the drive and then tried find21:20
zoredachehrm...21:20
evil_techi know it exists cause grep finds it21:22
zoredachetry just a find .21:23
zoredacheand then pipe that into grep21:24
evil_techok thats running21:25
evil_techbrb21:28
marchfrag another system-freeze :(21:31
evil_techyay that worked21:55
chimpHey, is there a way to click a file in the gui and run as root other than opening a root session of Thunar?22:16
vinzechimp, I suppose so22:17
chimpEr, do you know this way?22:17
vinzechimp, perhaps gksudo "exo-open %f"22:17
vinze(Sorry, had to look it up ;-)22:17
chimpwhat does this command do?22:18
vinzeWell, gksudo executes the thing as root (asking for your password)22:18
chimpAnd what i meant was so that i didnt always need to use the terminal in order to run them as root22:18
chimpno i meant specifically the exo-open22:18
vinzeYeah, just a sec... ;-)22:19
vinzeFrom "man exo-open": exo-open - Open URLs and launch preferred applications22:19
zoredacheit is similar to the windows 'start' command if that is any help to you22:19
chimpyeah... i probably should have just used the manual :P22:19
zoredachevinze: is there an easy way to add something to the context menu you get when you right-click on something?22:20
chimpThis still relies on using the terminal, while i dont mind using the terminal, sometimes for convience it would be nice to use the gui22:20
vinzezoredache, in Thunar? Edit->Configure Custom Actions22:21
vinzechimp, well, you don't actually get to *see* the terminal ;-)22:21
zoredachesee chimp, all you have to do is add that as a custom action22:21
chimpI see, that would work22:21
chimpNot a built in thing though22:22
vinzeYeah well, that's quite logically, as you don't really want to have new users exploring / as root...22:22
chimpYep, this is true22:22
chimpI figured there might be a hotkey of some sort22:23
chimpWhich would prevent that22:23
vinzeAnd people that can be trusted doing that can configure the custom actions :P22:23
vinzechimp, ah yes, that would be reasonable, but perhaps that also exists :P22:23
vinzeOn the other hand, one might press it accidentally22:23
chimpnot if it was multiple keys22:23
chimpctrl-super-alt s22:23
chimp:P22:23
vinzeHaha22:24
vinzeThen you have to press a key with your nose :P22:24
chimpsafety first :P22:24
vinzeHehe22:24
arm_help22:25
vinze!ask | arm_22:25
ubotuarm_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)22:25
reportingsjrarm_: You need to ask a question22:25
arm_i'm using xubuntu!22:25
vinze...and something doesn't work?22:26
reportingsjrhehe22:26
chimpWell i added that command, hmm need something to test it on now22:26
vinzechimp, /usr/share/applications/thunar.desktop?22:27
chimpWas a different puter that I thought to myself, hmm that would have been useful if i coulda right clicked22:27
vinzeOr just /usr/bin/thunar22:27
chimpahh good idea22:27
reportingsjrarm_: You need to actually ask a question if you want help with it.22:27
arm_i've a problem with the gnome settings menager! it doesent start! so i couldn't change nothing,i proved to starti it from the terminal but noway it doesn't work22:27
arm_so22:27
vinzearm_, the Gnome settings manager in Xubuntu?22:27
arm_i installed the kubuntu22:27
chimplol22:27
arm_aw22:27
arm_yeah22:28
vinzearm_, wouldn't you want to use Xubuntu's settings manager? It's in Applications->Settings->Settings Manager22:28
arm_yea but i've destroyed everything22:28
arm_in xubuntu22:28
arm_i've instaled22:28
arm_lot's of packets22:28
arm_last day i installed the kubuntu desktop from the xubuntu terminal22:29
reportingsjr....22:29
vinze!enter | arm_22:29
ubotuarm_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!22:29
chimpThat worked :)22:29
vinzechimp, yay! :)22:29
chimpPretty snazzy, can set what file types it operates on22:29
arm_and it's so messy! could anybody help me how to ripristinate the original xubuntu?22:30
vinzearm_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce.php might be of help22:30
arm_Thanks!22:31
chimpTurning it off for folders, dont want to be messing around with root thunar sessions open22:31
vinzechimp, ah, folders is the thing I used it most for :P22:31
chimpyeah i figured actually that22:31
chimpas soon as i said it22:31
chimp:P22:31
chimpThe question is, do i trust myself hehe22:31
vinzeYeah, it's a risk to take ;-)22:31
vinzeBut then again, otherwise you'd have to do it from the terminal, and a typo is quickly made...22:32
arm_aw.my god! c:(22:32
chimpA mis-click is easier, turned in on anyway, useful22:33
vinzechimp, a mis-click on what?22:33
arm_Thanks a lot <vinze>22:33
arm_bye! seya!22:33
vinzearm_, no problem :)22:33
vinzeBye22:33
chimpDont know about you lot, but when im using mouse for extended periods, my finger twitches, and ill just er click something22:34
chimpor even double click22:34
vinzechimp, oh, that never happens to me :P22:34
chimpHappened earlier today, clicked past about 3 sections of some installation thing heh22:34
vinzeThough I must say, that stupid optical mouse twiches by itself sometimes22:34
chimpOther question i have is can an ubuntu installation that has had the xubuntu-desktop installed on it, run as well (for slower puters) as a straight xubuntu install?22:36
vinzechimp, I think so, especially now that Xubuntu loads Gnome services by default22:37
vinzechimp, though in 7.10, xubuntu-desktop conflicts with ubuntu-desktop22:37
vinze(Because Xubuntu uses totem-xine and Ubuntu totem-gstreamer which conflict)22:38
chimpFirefox3 barely works on this laptop22:44
vinzeI'm off, bye22:49
chimpbye22:49
marchgood night :)23:16
homebrewcidercan anybody help me get my usb heaset working in Xubuntu please. it shows up in applications>settings>settings manager>sounds, but does not accept changes to the settings23:43

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