nivek | nixternal: You there? | 00:13 |
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nixternal | what's up? | 00:13 |
fdoving | nite. | 00:13 |
nixternal | nite fdoving | 00:13 |
nivek | Some guy is cussing up a storm in #kubuntu ... "[18:12] <Kozeris> fuck diz all life, fuck that, my mom hiding cigaretes from me and i wanna to smoke now, omg i just will blow her head" ... I dunno if he's calmed down now, or not, but may be something to keep an eye on... | 00:13 |
stdin | yes, I saw | 00:14 |
nixternal | he's mine stdin, back off :p | 00:14 |
nivek | stdin: Ah, I'm sorry! I didn't see your name on the access list when I first looked. I do now. | 00:14 |
stdin | he's calming down now, but I was *just* about to remove... | 00:14 |
nixternal | hehe | 00:15 |
nixternal | warn, then quiet, then remove :) | 00:15 |
stdin | I warned, but he swore 3 more times as I was typing the warning :p | 00:15 |
nixternal | hahaha | 00:16 |
nivek | Anyway, thanks, both of you. :D | 00:16 |
stdin | nivek: if you think there's no one around in #kubuntu and you need help, poke someone in #ubuntu-ops | 00:17 |
nivek | stdin: Will do. I knew that nixternal was an op from memory because I remember him booting someone the first month I started coming to #kubuntu :P | 00:17 |
stdin | you're not an real op untill your first kick/ban :) | 00:18 |
nivek | haha | 00:18 |
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Riddell | mhb: sorry, my internet broke | 00:28 |
* Jucato read that as "bloke".... | 00:28 | |
Riddell | nosrednaekim: so you need a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ which reads a setting you write somewhere | 00:29 |
Riddell | maybe ~/.kde/ | 00:29 |
Riddell | or ~/.compiz | 00:29 |
Riddell | doesn't really matter | 00:29 |
Riddell | and that sets $KDEWM which gets picked up by startkde | 00:29 |
Riddell | nosrednaekim: compiz ought to fall back to kwin, that it sometimes doesn't is a bug bug that can be fixed | 00:29 |
nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok... thanks! | 00:30 |
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Hobbsee | right. i should be able to install kde4 now :) | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | is it worht installing? | 01:57 |
Hobbsee | oh, shit. i missed the meeting again | 01:58 |
Jucato | oh frack! | 01:59 |
Hobbsee | no stuff to the ML about it either. i wonder if it even happened | 02:00 |
Jucato | me too | 02:01 |
Jucato | I don't think it was kinda nice to have it scheduled the day after new year :) | 02:02 |
hads | It did happen | 02:03 |
Jucato | pfft :( | 02:04 |
nosrednaekim | it happened.. | 02:08 |
nosrednaekim | yuriy was accepted.. and that about all that happened | 02:09 |
nosrednaekim | later all | 02:09 |
* Hobbsee ponders waiting until the kde4 actual release | 03:01 | |
Jucato | 8 days :) | 03:03 |
Jucato | or you can wait when it's tagged at least? :) | 03:03 |
nixternal | anyone know an easy way to add a line edit to a toolbar in qt4-designer? | 03:04 |
Jucato | :( | 03:09 |
* Jucato doesn't know.... | 03:10 | |
nivek | Hobbsee: You didn't miss much as far as the meeting went. One new member and one item on the agenda :P </late> | 03:40 |
Hobbsee | nivek: fair enough | 03:40 |
nivek | You want a log? | 03:40 |
nivek | http://pastebin.com/m4f4b64dc If so. | 03:43 |
Hobbsee | thanks | 03:45 |
* dasKreech waves | 04:17 | |
Hobbsee | heya dasKreech | 04:20 |
Jucato | hiya dasKreech! :) | 04:20 |
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dasKreech | Hey Jucato! | 04:22 |
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mornfall | yuriy: Well, eventually, I may move the methods to .cpp files. It's just more comfortable this way. | 09:09 |
mornfall | yuriy: At least for now. | 09:09 |
Tonio_ | hi there | 10:27 |
Riddell | rebonjour Tonio_ | 10:27 |
Tonio_ | bonne année Riddell ! | 10:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm back in the work, fixing bugs for kde 3.5 etc... | 10:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: most people seem to focus on 4.0 so I'll do my best on the 3.5 part.... | 10:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: like fixing ark, broken | 10:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I found the problem with guidance power manager | 10:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the problem is outdated .pot file | 10:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a few questions on that point | 10:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a way to import the pot in rosetta for the package's page ? | 10:32 |
Riddell | rosetta will import it when you upload | 10:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: no admin/ folder in rosetta, so no way to patch | 10:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: it was never imported in fact | 10:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I also have to fix powermanager code a bit to include some missing i18n() things | 10:33 |
Tonio_ | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance | 10:33 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: as you can see, there is no translation entry in it | 10:34 |
Riddell | https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kde-guidance/ | 10:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: hum weird... | 10:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: oki let's patch guidance then | 10:35 |
Tonio_ | and include an updated pot file | 10:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: just a little question concerning guidance, again | 10:40 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I see both __tr() and i18n() are used, but never together, is there a reason to this ? | 10:41 |
Tonio_ | self.screensavergroup.setTitle(self.__tr("Enable screensaver")) | 10:43 |
Tonio_ | here an example | 10:43 |
Tonio_ | I suspect we should use self.screensavergroup.setTitle(self.__tr(i18n("Enable screensaver"))) | 10:43 |
Riddell | Tonio_: is the tr() used in files made from .ui files? | 10:47 |
Tonio_ | not only | 10:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: you have it in the standard guidance-power-manager.py for example | 10:48 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I try to use i18n in it, and if it works, then will patch everything | 10:48 |
Riddell | Tonio_: probably a mistake then | 10:49 |
Tonio_ | yup | 10:49 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: patch is done, but I can seem to build the .mo file manually | 11:43 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: any clue for this ? | 11:43 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I have the patched .py files installed, seems to work, but I can hardly test if I can't compile the .po files | 11:43 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: even local debuild -nc doesn't built it... | 11:44 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I don't know if they've ever built as part of the package | 11:46 |
Riddell | they'll build as part of the language pack of course | 11:46 |
Riddell | you can try and work out the gettext command to compile them | 11:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the debian package should contain the commands right ? | 11:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: debian doesn't have our langpacks mecanism afaik ? | 11:47 |
Tonio_ | maybe kbabel can do it btw | 11:48 |
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Riddell | the debian package shouldn't be much different from ours | 11:53 |
Tonio_ | oki | 11:54 |
* Tonio_ is happy, no new bugs posted with the latest kdesudo | 12:11 | |
Tonio_ | fdoving: ^_^ | 12:11 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: the problem looks more complex in fact | 12:29 |
Tonio_ | the .ui file generates a ui.py file automatically, which doesn't contain any i18n strings | 12:29 |
Riddell | I did ask if that's where they came from | 12:30 |
Riddell | uic has a flag to change that translation function | 12:30 |
Tonio_ | tht's it indeed | 12:30 |
Riddell | not sure if pyuic does | 12:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: what is the flag for the standard uic please ? | 13:04 |
Riddell | -tr <func> use func() for i18n | 13:07 |
Riddell | Tonio_: ^^ | 13:07 |
Tonio_ | okay suprt | 13:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I was searching for i18n and not internationalisation, shame on me..... | 13:09 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: you can blame me :) | 13:09 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: seems to work, testing | 13:17 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looking at guidance packaging, there are things missing : | 13:27 |
Tonio_ | -XGETTEXT=/usr/bin/kde-xgettext EXTRACTATTR=/usr/bin/extractattr sh $(DEB_SRCDIR)/admin/cvs.sh extract-messages | 13:27 |
Tonio_ | this cannot work, as there is no admin folder in it | 13:27 |
Tonio_ | btw this isn't supposed to work with .py afaik | 13:28 |
Riddell | wouldn't imagine it could | 13:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's from debian/rules ;) | 13:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: fixing to something that will work | 13:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: seems to work ;) | 13:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: btw, there are fixes that I'd rather have in the tarball | 13:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: can you update the svn branch if I send you a fixed tarball, and then I'll prepare a package with the debian/rules fix ? | 13:47 |
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Riddell | Tonio_: can do | 14:14 |
Riddell | Tonio_: there's a patch in dholbach's patch queue too i think | 14:14 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: great | 14:17 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/m62574e65 | 14:18 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: here-s the patch | 14:18 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll ping dholbach once available, but I'll release a new package as soon as you have commited | 14:19 |
Tonio_ | as well as a new kdebluetooth ans a new knm | 14:19 |
Tonio_ | Lure: wasn't knetworkmanager 2.1 in the pipe for month ? ;) | 14:30 |
Lure | Tonio_: I thought so too, but not sure where it got stuck. You may want to ask on mailing list | 14:31 |
Tonio_ | sure | 14:31 |
Tonio__ | grmpf, bad internet connexion today | 15:07 |
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Riddell | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/177366t | 15:16 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 177366 in kde-guidance "misspelling found - lowercase 'w' in 'wine'" [Low,Triaged] | 15:16 |
Riddell | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/177366 | 15:16 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I've applied your patch and that one to svn | 15:23 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: super | 15:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: building the new package, and then trying to fix ark :/ | 15:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I noticed the current gutsy version of kdesudo causes lots of problems, as lots of bugs have been fix | 15:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: shouldn't we consider a security update ? | 15:30 |
Tonio_ | or even a backport | 15:30 |
Riddell | backport sure | 15:30 |
Riddell | I doubt it'll pass security | 15:30 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: well the bad args parsing was a potential security issue... | 15:31 |
Tonio_ | but yeah, few changes it passes security ;) | 15:31 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: also with security, the minimum code changes are required right ? then no need to even think about it :) | 15:33 |
Riddell | Tonio_: right | 15:37 |
Riddell | Tonio_: kdebase/4:3.5.8-2ubuntu10 broke | 15:43 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, the patch was doubled in the patch/ fodler | 15:47 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: already uploaded a ubuntu1 version that builds | 15:47 |
bddebian | Heya | 16:04 |
jjesse | boo :) | 16:04 |
nosrednaekim | EEEK! | 16:05 |
Tonio_ | hi everyone | 16:07 |
jjesse | hello Tonio_ | 16:07 |
bddebian | :-) | 16:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: is there a delay before I can svn update on the anonsvn server ? | 16:11 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I can't seem to ugrade now.... I'll wait a bit | 16:11 |
Riddell | Tonio_: 10 minutes usually | 16:12 |
Tonio_ | okay | 16:12 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: well it was 38 minutes ago ;) | 16:12 |
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Riddell | Tonio_: definately there http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/guidance/ | 16:18 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah, doing manually is another option ;) | 16:20 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/guidance/wineconfig/ | 16:25 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I can't see the wine typo fix uploaded... | 16:25 |
Riddell | hrm | 16:31 |
Riddell | Tonio_: it's definatly in svn | 16:33 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/wineconfig.py | 16:33 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/guidance/wineconfig/wineconfig.py | 16:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: not updated here at least, I can't see the fix in it | 16:34 |
Riddell | shrug, slow sync | 16:34 |
Riddell | maybe due to the mega icon commits | 16:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like.... especially since the .pot fix is in for more about an hour now ;) | 16:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I applied the patch manually in the sources, it'll be the same as the svn tree | 16:35 |
mhb | Riddell: so could you answer my question now, please? I asked about the KDE4 Hardy CD and when it is ready (to be tested) | 16:36 |
Riddell | mhb: it's blocked on seeds being reorganised | 16:40 |
mhb | Riddell: that is so last year :o) just joking, but the answer was the same before Christmas. | 16:41 |
Riddell | mhb: I doubt colin spent his christmas rearranging seeds | 16:42 |
ryanakca | mhb: is mhb.ath.cx down? | 16:43 |
mhb | ryanakca: no | 16:44 |
mhb | Riddell: right, here's hoping that he might spens some time in January about it :o) | 16:44 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: don't we want the grubconfig guidance tool ? | 16:50 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: it is commented in rules | 16:50 |
Riddell | dunno, ask mhb | 16:51 |
Riddell | I believe it wasn't ready last I looked | 16:51 |
Tonio_ | k | 16:52 |
Tonio_ | mhb: ping ? ;) | 16:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: last (sorry) question about the rules file | 17:00 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: why did you use kdepyuic instead of the standard pyuic ? | 17:00 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: kdepyuic doesn't seem to allow the usage of parameters like -tr for example | 17:01 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: is it of any use for the program ? | 17:01 |
Riddell | Tonio_: well they're KDE apps, I suspect they don't work with the qt pyuic | 17:01 |
nosrednaekim | yeah, the standard pyuic doesn't work with KDE classes/eidgets | 17:02 |
Tonio_ | hum, I then have to find a way to make kdepyuic use -tr instead | 17:04 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: afaiu that to generate pykde .py compatible files right ? | 17:04 |
Riddell | Tonio_: you can just use sed | 17:05 |
Riddell | s/tr\(/i18n\(/ | 17:05 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: right | 17:06 |
\sh | Tonio_: pyuic has a switch for that...where you can set this...and pykdeuic is just an addon to it, so it should use the same switch when I remember correctly | 17:28 |
\sh | Tonio_: if not, it's a bug ,-) | 17:29 |
Tonio_ | \sh: then, a bug it is :) | 17:30 |
Tonio_ | \sh: kdepyuic doesn't allow to set options in fact, only 3 are available | 17:30 |
\sh | Tonio_: kdepyuic has the -tr <func> switch | 17:31 |
\sh | (pykde3) | 17:31 |
Tonio_ | \sh: it hasn't, the switch is for pyuic | 17:32 |
\sh | Tonio_: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/50608/ | 17:32 |
Tonio_ | \sh: the output you see is the pyuic output | 17:33 |
\sh | Tonio_: hehe...kdepyuic is just a wrapper around pyuic...it inherits all stuff from pyuic and adds kde stuff too | 17:33 |
Tonio_ | \sh: look carefully to the output, you have both in a raw, buggy | 17:33 |
\sh | Tonio_: yes...but it should call pyuic | 17:33 |
Tonio_ | \sh: basically kdepyuic allows 3 options : -a -i and -p | 17:33 |
Tonio_ | \sh: it does, but there is no way to add specific options for pyuic | 17:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: interesting, the .py files you generate with kdepyuic are not installed | 17:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: those in the current package are done with the build system with pyuic | 17:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's why I couldn't get my patched files in the package...... | 17:36 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably patch the build system to use kdepyuic instead | 17:36 |
\sh | Tonio_: give me a sec...tryingf | 17:36 |
Tonio_ | \sh: sure | 17:36 |
Tonio_ | \sh: would be nice if I could avoid the sed :) | 17:37 |
Tonio_ | \sh: already tried -p "pyuic --tr i18n" fyi | 17:38 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like our powermanager app is not a kde but a qt application :) | 17:38 |
Tonio_ | at least the ui | 17:39 |
\sh | Tonio_: -p is just the path to pyuic | 17:39 |
\sh | Tonio_: I see now...it's a bug in kdepyuic...we should fix it ,-) | 17:39 |
Tonio_ | \sh: ;) | 17:40 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I don't have time to wait for this, I'll fix in guidance waiting for a fix instead ! | 17:40 |
\sh | Tonio_: I would say, regarding the fact that kde is just using i18n, we should add a "-tr i18n" to opts = ' -o ' in doPyuic | 17:41 |
\sh | or adding an option to it directly and adding a conditional to doPyUic... | 17:41 |
\sh | Riddell: any objections? | 17:42 |
Tonio_ | \sh: well it isn't that simple | 17:43 |
Tonio_ | \sh: that'll generate i18n entries in the code, but the catalog should be loaded too | 17:43 |
Tonio_ | \sh means something like "from kdecore import kglobal" | 17:44 |
Tonio_ | \sh: and also add the kglobal.locale() somewhere in the code :) | 17:44 |
\sh | Tonio_: so lets do it...i didn't check on pykde4 this time...but fixing pykde3 is essential...we can push the patch as well to upstream | 17:44 |
Tonio_ | \sh: and that I don't know how to do it correctly | 17:45 |
\sh | Tonio_: that should be done at application lvl... | 17:45 |
Tonio_ | then just one line after loading kglobal should be enough | 17:45 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I'm all for that | 17:46 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I can wait for the fix to release guidance then | 17:46 |
\sh | Tonio_: well, I'll propose a patch for it...and you can test it...I'll upload pykde3 to my ppa | 17:47 |
Tonio_ | \sh: stupid question, but how will you now the catalog name to load ? ;) | 17:47 |
Tonio_ | \sh: KGlobal.locale().insertCatalogue("guidance") for example | 17:47 |
\sh | Tonio_: as I said..this should be done at app lvl...not in pykdeuic ... | 17:47 |
Tonio_ | \sh: but how will that be done for a py file generated from a ui file ? | 17:48 |
Tonio_ | ho you mean that this file is imported and then it should work ? | 17:49 |
\sh | Tonio_: as it is global, it should inherit everything from top...yes | 17:49 |
* Tonio_ isn't a python expert | 17:49 | |
Tonio_ | oki | 17:49 |
* \sh neither regarding locales .-) | 17:49 | |
\sh | but thinking of qt/kde libs in general, where you do this as well in main somehow...it should be the same | 17:50 |
Tonio_ | yep, understood | 17:50 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I'll wait for your patch then | 17:50 |
Tonio_ | \sh: | 17:53 |
Tonio_ | if addApp: | 17:53 |
Tonio_ | opts = ' -x -o ' | 17:53 |
Tonio_ | else: | 17:53 |
Tonio_ | opts = ' -o ' | 17:53 |
Tonio_ | that's the 2 lines to patch right ? | 17:53 |
\sh | Tonio_: well, I'm doing it correctly..adding the opt to the toplvl options...and feed it as conditional to DoPyUic | 17:54 |
Tonio_ | \sh: oki super, please ping me when done so that I can test it and fix guidance build system to use this instead of pyuic :) | 17:55 |
\sh | Tonio_: sure | 18:02 |
\sh | Tonio_: pykde3 is in my ppa...just waiting to build...python-kde3 - 3.16.0-4ubuntu1~ppa1 is the version...for hardy...add | 18:11 |
\sh | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/shermann/ubuntu hardy main | 18:11 |
\sh | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/shermann/ubuntu hardy main | 18:11 |
Tonio_ | \sh: that will not globally fix our issues since pykdeextensions uses pyuic to build ui files | 18:11 |
Tonio_ | \sh: grep -re uic /usr/share/python-support/pykdeextensions | 18:11 |
\sh | Tonio_: if it works ok...just use the kubuntu_04_kdepyuic_i18n.dpatch from it | 18:11 |
\sh | Tonio_: we need to fix this too ,-) | 18:11 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I'll test | 18:12 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I guess it should check for kdepyuic in the first place | 18:12 |
\sh | Tonio_: it needs a dep on python-kde3-dev ;) | 18:13 |
Tonio_ | what needs that dep ? | 18:13 |
\sh | Tonio_: everything what needs to use kdepyuic | 18:14 |
Tonio_ | so if I have python-kde3-dev installed, the setup.py, importing kdedistutils, should use kdepyuic instead ? | 18:14 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I already have it installed | 18:15 |
Tonio_ | \sh: but pyuic is when launching setup.py | 18:15 |
\sh | yepp | 18:17 |
Tonio_ | \sh: doesn't seem to work... | 18:17 |
Tonio_ | the installed .py generated files are done using pyuic (no kde import things in it) | 18:18 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I can fix that overwritting the file in debian/rules, but that sounds a bit ugly :) | 18:18 |
\sh | Tonio_: patch is at http://www.sourcecode.de/~shermann/python-kde3-patches/ | 18:19 |
Tonio_ | \sh: testing this right now | 18:20 |
\sh | pyuic_exe = find_executable('pyuic',pyqt_configuration.pyqt_bin_dir) | 18:21 |
\sh | hmmm.... | 18:21 |
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\sh | give me some time to think about a fix... | 18:23 |
Tonio_ | \sh: your patch seems incomplete | 18:25 |
Tonio_ | I can see the -tr option, but the command doesn't work | 18:25 |
Tonio_ | http://pastebin.com/m3ee140d5 | 18:26 |
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nixternal | is it possible to download a KDE mailing list archive? | 18:30 |
nixternal | you can do it with Mailman, but KDE uses MARC for their archives and I can't figure it out yet | 18:31 |
\sh | Tonio_: pykdeuic -tr i18n ? | 18:32 |
Tonio_ | \sh: yep, fails for me | 18:33 |
\sh | grmpf...give me some minutes..need to wash dishes first ,-) | 18:33 |
Tonio_ | \sh: | 18:34 |
Tonio_ | shortOptions = "aip:" | 18:34 |
Tonio_ | longOptions = "noapp noimport pyuic=" | 18:34 |
Tonio_ | \sh: look lik python doesn't want a 2 letters based short option btw | 18:34 |
Tonio_ | I guess aiptr: wouldn't be welcome :) | 18:34 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I can just test with -t and let you find the fix, gimme a moment | 18:37 |
\sh | Tonio_: argl...yeah will fix it in a few... | 18:39 |
\sh | Tonio_: fetch it now from the former location at sourcecode.de | 18:40 |
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\sh | argl...adjusting the help :( | 18:42 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I was about to ay it ;) | 18:43 |
\sh | now | 18:43 |
\sh | ,-) | 18:43 |
Tonio_ | k | 18:44 |
Tonio_ | \sh: seems to work | 18:46 |
Tonio_ | now the second fix to use kdepyuic and it'll be perfect ;) | 18:46 |
Tonio_ | \sh: wait no there is a problem, looks like i18n hasn't been passed to pyuic | 18:47 |
Tonio_ | I still have __tr based translation in the .py file | 18:47 |
Tonio_ | \sh: | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | if i18nFunc: | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | opts = opts + ' -tr ' + i18nFunc + ' ' | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | if addApp: | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | opts = opts + ' -x ' | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | opts = ' -o ' | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | here is the problem, last line should be opts = opts + ' -o' no ? | 18:48 |
Tonio_ | \sh: that's it, works this time | 18:49 |
\sh | Tonio_: bah...lI'm doomed | 18:50 |
Tonio_ | \sh: super, I'll test an ugly hack in guidance to override the usage of pyuic by default, I'll wait for another fix on that point :) | 18:51 |
\sh | well, if the fix works now in general...we should add it to the hardy package... | 18:51 |
\sh | and try then to fix the other things | 18:52 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I tested this on 10 ui files, works perfectly, so I think you can upload right now :) | 18:53 |
\sh | Tonio_: I can't upload it right now :) please apply the patch to python-kde3 and add it to the 00list file and upload :) | 18:57 |
Tonio_ | oki no pb | 19:01 |
\sh | Tonio_: actually I can't upload in general :) | 19:02 |
Tonio_ | \sh: lost your gpgp key ? | 19:03 |
Tonio_ | gpg | 19:03 |
\sh | nope | 19:04 |
\sh | I'm not a motu or core-dev anymore :) | 19:05 |
Tonio_ | \sh: NameError: global name 'i18n' is not defined | 19:05 |
Tonio_ | \sh: that's what I get using the generated file, I think we should import something else when using i18n | 19:05 |
\sh | Tonio_: checking the doc...what needs to be done | 19:09 |
\sh | Tonio_: from kdecore import i18n | 19:11 |
\sh | Tonio_: check the examples in python-kde3-doc | 19:11 |
Tonio_ | \sh: tested, but that doesn't change anything | 19:12 |
Tonio_ | \sh: shouldn't we just import * ? | 19:13 |
Tonio_ | \sh: how does this impact performances ? | 19:13 |
\sh | Tonio_: well, quoting Riddell: it doesn't matter ;) | 19:14 |
\sh | Tonio_: depends on what you want to do...I think... | 19:14 |
Tonio_ | \sh: then we should patch your patch :) | 19:14 |
\sh | Tonio_: let's see what it does actually | 19:14 |
Tonio_ | \sh: well if we want to use i18n, we can either load just i18n (which works in fact), or load everything and ensure it works | 19:15 |
Tonio_ | I'd vote for the second option | 19:15 |
Tonio_ | dunno if upstream will then accept the patch, that's the problem | 19:15 |
\sh | well kdepyuic does n.write ('from kdecore import KCmdLineArgs, KApplication\n') | 19:15 |
\sh | and that's only if we have an app | 19:15 |
\sh | so I need to add some code magic | 19:16 |
\sh | Tonio_: thinking about it...it's only be needed if you use i18n() for the locales | 19:17 |
Tonio_ | yep | 19:18 |
\sh | Tonio_: so I could add a switch (instead of the introduced one) like --useKDEi18n which adds i18n to the import line for all generated .py files and it would leave it alone when you don't need it | 19:18 |
\sh | and adds the -tr i18n to the pyuic call | 19:19 |
Tonio_ | yep, that would be the idea | 19:21 |
\sh | ok...will do it in a few... | 19:21 |
\sh | Tonio_: should we default it to true or false? | 19:27 |
Tonio_ | I'd say yes | 19:27 |
Tonio_ | i18n is kde default right ? ;) | 19:27 |
Tonio_ | % strace -e trace=open python /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/guidance-power-manager.py 2>&1 | grep LC_MESSAGES [0.11 0.12 - 31% 0%] | 19:28 |
\sh | ok..default is true...no problem ,-) | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/lib/locale/fr_FR.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/lib/locale/fr_FR.utf8/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3 | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/lib/locale/fr_FR.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3 | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/share/locale/fr_FR/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/fr_FR/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/fr/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = 10 | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | WHY DOESN4T IT WANT TO LOAD THAT STUPID CATALOG FILE ?????????, !!!!!!!!!!! | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | that's in the code, but it doesn't work..... | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | now I understand why it wans't translated.... | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | bad .pot file -> incomplete .po files | 19:28 |
Tonio_ | bad .py files not using i18n | 19:29 |
Tonio_ | bad kdepyuic | 19:29 |
Tonio_ | and finally the catalog loading fails :) | 19:29 |
Tonio_ | \sh: it was, at least unlikelly to work ^_^ | 19:29 |
\sh | Tonio_: catch the patch from www.sourcecode.de/~shermann/python-kde3-patches/ and check if this works better :) | 19:32 |
Tonio_ | oki ;) | 19:32 |
\sh | Tonio_: if it works...I'll prepare a debdiff for python-kde3 | 19:35 |
Tonio_ | sure, will do | 19:35 |
Tonio_ | atm I'm eating, brb and will let you know | 19:35 |
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\sh | Tonio_: family is calling ... so send me an email or wait for tomorrow with the patch... | 20:09 |
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ryanakca | nixternal: maybe get the flashgot plugin (for firefox) and go flashgot all at the archive page you want? | 20:09 |
Tonio_ | \sh_away: sure | 20:09 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 20:21 |
Riddell | hi Tonio_ | 20:21 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: re ;) | 20:21 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I went to the point I can say there is something weird in power-manager | 20:22 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a working .po file with french translations for each guidance component | 20:22 |
Tonio_ | but power-manager refuses to load ANY kde Catalog | 20:22 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I suspect there is something weird in the program structure | 20:22 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: look by yourself : | 20:23 |
Tonio_ | ho and btw I don't understand how are the translations loaded | 20:23 |
Riddell | klocale loads the .mo file | 20:23 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I disabled (removed) the displayconfig insertCatalog line, but the translation is still loaded | 20:23 |
jjesse | > | 20:23 |
Riddell | strace can tell you which it tries to load | 20:24 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: done and here is the result, you'll be amazed I guess, look at that : | 20:24 |
Tonio_ | % grep -re Catalog displayconfig.py [0.01 0.08 - 31% 0%] | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | # KGlobal.locale().insertCatalogue("guidance") | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | as you can see it is disabled | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | % strace -e trace=open python /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfig.py 2>&1 | grep guidance.mo [0.01 0.07 - 31% 0%] | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/fr/LC_MESSAGES/guidance.mo", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 10 | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | but it's loaded | 20:25 |
Tonio_ | I can see lots of kde catalogs loaded : | 20:26 |
Tonio_ | http://pastebin.com/m640b762e | 20:26 |
Tonio_ | here's the all list | 20:26 |
Tonio_ | with powermanager : | 20:26 |
Tonio_ | http://pastebin.com/m261babe5 | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | only libc.mo is loaded | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | not even kdelibs.mo..... | 20:27 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's why I suspect some other problem with it | 20:28 |
Tonio_ | also I don't understand how can displayconfig load the catalog if disabled | 20:28 |
Tonio_ | that's a non-sense for me | 20:28 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: so if you have an idea................. that would be nice, since I have done I think all I could to make that to work.... | 20:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I am now wondering is there is some kind of cache with python (pyc files already removed), cause I don't understand how a catalog can be loaded without any kind of locale() call.... | 20:31 |
Riddell | Tonio_: it depends on how it's loaded, e.g. if it's through system settings, or kcontrol or kcmshell | 20:32 |
Riddell | .pyo files? | 20:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: pyc, not pyo ? | 20:34 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: loaded from the shell only, starting the .py file manually | 20:35 |
Tonio_ | strace -e trace=open python /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/displayconfig.py 2>&1 | grep guidance.mo | 20:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: as you can see, just starting the script with python loads the catalog, even if the code doesn't...... | 20:36 |
Tonio_ | that's where I get lost | 20:36 |
ScottK | Tonio_: Do you have any interest in trying to maintain Klamav in Debian? It looks to me like the Debian maintainer has abandoned the package and may be MIA. | 20:38 |
ScottK | I'm interested to do it, but since you packaged it, I thought I ought to check and see if you were interested first. | 20:38 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: I have no upload rights in debian, and to be honnest, bad experience working with a sponsor :) | 20:39 |
Riddell | Tonio_: ah well there you go | 20:39 |
ScottK | I'll take that as a no then. | 20:40 |
Riddell | Tonio_: if you load it through kcmshell etc then it tries to load the .mo files with that associated name | 20:40 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: I will still maintain the package in debian | 20:40 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: charge for debian to merge ;) | 20:40 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: s/in debian/in ubuntu | 20:40 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: oki but how can that work if I load it from nowhere, just command line to python myscript.py | 20:41 |
ScottK | OK. Good enough. I'll let you know if I get something worked out for Debian. | 20:41 |
Tonio_ | btw, the mo file name is "guidance" not "displayconfig" | 20:41 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's just completly crazy for me..... I hate automagic things | 20:41 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: sure | 20:42 |
Riddell | Tonio_: there will be a KApplication() | 20:48 |
Riddell | that has an app name passed to it | 20:48 |
Riddell | maybe as part of KAboutData() | 20:48 |
Riddell | that name is used to load the .mo file | 20:48 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I was just testing this right now | 20:48 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I completly disabled the catalog loading in the all code -> still works, now the about data thing :) | 20:49 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's it | 20:50 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like the all insertCatalog things are useless then | 20:52 |
Riddell | Tonio_: umm, why? | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll try to get that fixed tomorrow | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: they are ignored | 20:52 |
Riddell | it's still needed for loading through system settings | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | hum lemme test | 20:53 |
Tonio_ | hum right | 20:53 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: all I should do then is adding the correct about infos to power-manager then ? | 20:53 |
nosrednaekim | ping mhb | 20:54 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: but why aren't the other mo files (like kdelibs.mo) loaded ? | 20:54 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: not only the guidance.mo is needed | 20:54 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I suspect for example at least the "ok" and "cancel" buttons should be translated no ? | 20:55 |
Riddell | dunno that | 20:55 |
Riddell | what do other kde apps load? | 20:55 |
yuriy | mornfall: ping | 21:04 |
mornfall | yuriy: semi-pong | 21:06 |
mornfall | Be quick, I have to go soonish. | 21:06 |
yuriy | mornfall: ok then i'll skip the more specific stuff. i don't have somewhere to serve a darcs branch off of, so what would be a good way for me to start making changes and commit them somewhere you could easily get to? | 21:08 |
mornfall | yuriy: I will set up darcs send tomorrow, is that okey? (That would mail the patches to me in an applicable form.) | 21:09 |
yuriy | mornfall: ok | 21:09 |
mornfall | yuriy: You could shoot the more specific stuff as well, if you are willing to risk that answers may come only tomorrow. | 21:10 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: it works ! | 21:11 |
Tonio_ | finally...... | 21:11 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: would you suggest a separate po file or patching power-manager to have "guidance" in KAboutdata ? | 21:12 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: patching is easier, but you decide | 21:13 |
yuriy | mornfall: ok: wrt my .cpp comment, one of the difficult parts about working with adept has been that it's not too clear what's where, and in the new one there are already 3 entire classes in each .h and I'm concerned that it's already getting confusing | 21:13 |
mornfall | yuriy: Okey, that's a side-effect of mostly running alone and being in hurry (and keeping most of that stuff in my mind). | 21:14 |
mornfall | yuriy: Not really hard to fix though (that's why I defer doing it, mostly). | 21:14 |
yuriy | mornfall: and my more specific question is why are fill() and fillList() in AdeptManager? I was thinking it would make sense to extend a Q...Model and add those there | 21:15 |
mornfall | yuriy: That's subject of further refactoring as well. | 21:16 |
mornfall | yuriy: When AdeptManager becomes bigger, things will be offloaded that make sense. It doesn't however make that much sense to do too much design upfront. | 21:17 |
yuriy | mornfall: ok, thanks. | 21:17 |
mornfall | I got to be quick, my schedule is pretty tight : - ). | 21:17 |
mornfall | yuriy: If you will be around tomorrow, we can talk in more detail. And thanks for both feedback and interest. | 21:18 |
mornfall | Goodnight... | 21:18 |
yuriy | mornfall: heh, me too. but that's why i'm concerned about making it easy for other people to work with: so that others can easily take over | 21:18 |
yuriy | good night | 21:18 |
mhb | Tonio_: we don't, because it would need some love nobody is able to provide | 21:43 |
Tonio_ | mhb: oki | 21:44 |
Tonio_ | mhb: sad, but honnest :/ | 21:45 |
Tonio_ | mhb: at least guidance-power-manager will now have translations :) | 21:46 |
Tonio_ | mhb: 8 hours on that bug, but I (with the help of riddell- found it :) | 21:46 |
Tonio_ | 2 years I wanted to fix it hehe =) | 21:46 |
mhb | good news | 21:46 |
fdoving | Tonio_: nice work, 8 more hours and you have a qt4 version ready? :) | 21:50 |
Tonio_ | lol | 21:50 |
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fdoving | hum, doesn't dolphin in kde4 support servicemenus anymore? - i can't make them appear anywhere. | 22:01 |
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nixternal | imbrandon: -j3 or -j4 for dual-core and gnu make? | 22:49 |
nixternal | I thought it was -j $(num_procs) + 1 | 22:49 |
Riddell | - 1 surely, you want some free capacity | 22:52 |
nixternal | so then do -j3 for dual core then | 22:52 |
nosrednaekim | ok, so I wrote up a xession.d script which checks for a file in .kde. problem is I don't have kde3 to test with. | 22:53 |
nixternal | lol | 22:53 |
nosrednaekim | (this is for autostarting compiz) | 22:53 |
nixternal | I am installing kde4 via svn on my dual-core box so I can work on a new help app for kde4 | 22:53 |
blizzzek | gn8 | 22:54 |
nosrednaekim | would someone test it for me? | 22:55 |
nosrednaekim | hmmm it crashes kde4. something to do with an autostarted session of compiz trying to replace the WM (hich is compiz) | 23:01 |
iRon | nosrednaekim: i could test it on kde3.. where is it? | 23:02 |
nosrednaekim | iRon: its just one file, I'll pastebin it.. | 23:02 |
nosrednaekim | !pastebin | 23:03 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 23:03 |
iRon | ok.. waiting.. | 23:03 |
mhb | just 55 minutes until KDE4 freeze! | 23:04 |
nosrednaekim | it needs to be written to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/25compiz-enable | 23:04 |
mhb | nosrednaekim: you called? | 23:04 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: yeah... what I was trying to work with your QT4 GUI for the compiz config... | 23:05 |
nosrednaekim | iRon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50653/ | 23:05 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: what signal is emitted when you click the apply button? | 23:06 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: I tried "accepted()" but that didn't do anything. | 23:06 |
iRon | nosrednaekim: k, hang on.. | 23:06 |
mhb | it must be accept() or something like that | 23:06 |
mhb | did I just implement close() in the code? | 23:07 |
nosrednaekim | iRon: then run "touch ~/.kde/share/config/compizasWM" | 23:07 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: yes | 23:07 |
fdoving | mhb: does servicemenus work for you, in kde4? (either dolphin or konq? ) | 23:09 |
mhb | nosrednaekim: void accepted () | 23:09 |
mhb | nosrednaekim: that should be it, according to the Qt docs | 23:09 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: yeah...but it doesn't do anything :( | 23:10 |
mhb | you mean it is not passed correctly? | 23:10 |
mhb | nosrednaekim: do you have any branch I can test? | 23:11 |
nosrednaekim | mhb: no....but I can DCC you the file | 23:11 |
nosrednaekim | and I have to get going soon. | 23:12 |
mhb | no dcc | 23:12 |
mhb | mail is better | 23:12 |
yuriy | do i have to do anything for kubuntu email to start working? | 23:12 |
nosrednaekim | ok...i'll mail it when I get back tonight. | 23:12 |
Jucato | yuriy: did you add yourself to the kubuntu members LP team? | 23:12 |
yuriy | Jucato: yep, i'm on it | 23:13 |
nosrednaekim | thanks mhb! bye | 23:13 |
Jucato | yuriy: oh and btw congrats! sorry I wasn't there to give my +1 :/ | 23:13 |
yuriy | thanks Jucato | 23:13 |
Jucato | hm... usually it takes ~24 hours... | 23:13 |
mhb | nosrednaekim: no problem | 23:13 |
yuriy | oh ok (hastn't been) | 23:13 |
Jucato | yuriy: how are you testing? | 23:13 |
yuriy | Jucato: sent an email from my brandeis.edu email | 23:14 |
Jucato | oh... hm... | 23:14 |
Jucato | lemme see... | 23:14 |
mhb | yuriy: be patient I guess | 23:14 |
mhb | I tried sending you an email, got rejected. | 23:15 |
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Jucato | yuriy: yuriy-kozlov@ubuntu.com ? | 23:15 |
Jucato | (based on your LP account) | 23:16 |
imbrandon | nixternal: -j4 ( cores * 2 ) | 23:17 |
Riddell | why would you have any more processes than you had cores? | 23:18 |
imbrandon | Riddell: no idea, but thats what all the tutorals say | 23:19 |
iRon | Riddell: this is usefull only for small files, when console output takes more time then compilation time.. :) | 23:19 |
nixternal | holy smokes, using -j3 is way faster than using -j2 on a dual core | 23:24 |
nixternal | with -j2 I could usually make sense of what was flying on the screen, now, it is all a white blur | 23:24 |
fdoving | i use -j3 on a dualcore, haven't tried -j4. | 23:26 |
nixternal | in 5 minutes, kdelibs is already 50% complete | 23:28 |
fdoving | i like the new oxygen splash. | 23:28 |
nixternal | ya, it is nice | 23:28 |
fdoving | now i just need to modify the kubuntu bootsplash to only show the progress-bar. | 23:29 |
fdoving | and make kdm look nice. | 23:29 |
fdoving | the polished systemsettings also look way better. | 23:29 |
nixternal | do you smell that? 15 minutes until kde4 tag-you're-it time! | 23:44 |
Riddell | I suspect dirk isn't doing to do it at midnight utc | 23:45 |
nixternal | heh, ya cuz everyone is rushing last minute to get their stuff in | 23:45 |
nixternal | right apachelogger? :p | 23:45 |
apachelogger | nixternal: I'm not oxygen's manager :P | 23:46 |
nixternal | but you are rushing last minute to upload aren't ya? :) | 23:46 |
* apachelogger notes: such last minute commits wouldn't happen @ amarok ;-) | 23:46 | |
nixternal | hahahaha | 23:46 |
apachelogger | nixternal: yeah, cause they just noticed that they forgot to commit the wallies | 23:47 |
Nightrose | hehe right apachelogger would do bad things to the person doing that | 23:47 |
nixternal | oh man | 23:47 |
nixternal | I just want that one wallpaper and I will be happy | 23:47 |
nixternal | actually there are 2 that I want | 23:47 |
apachelogger | well | 23:48 |
apachelogger | 50 MiB of wallpapers | 23:48 |
apachelogger | might be enough :P | 23:48 |
nixternal | oh jeesh | 23:48 |
nixternal | you want to split that up and I can help you push them or something? | 23:48 |
apachelogger | everything up already | 23:48 |
nixternal | oh | 23:48 |
apachelogger | just commited the last name fix | 23:49 |
apachelogger | ..hopefully.. | 23:49 |
nixternal | groovy | 23:49 |
nixternal | those got pushed to kdebase right? | 23:49 |
apachelogger | yep | 23:49 |
nixternal | so I will svn up that badboy before I build it here after pimlibs | 23:49 |
apachelogger | hrrhrr :D | 23:49 |
nixternal | I just got the PDF info for Chicago's Flourish conference in April...going to be amazing! and huge | 23:50 |
nixternal | hopefully Jono will go ahead and commit to be a speaker already | 23:50 |
nixternal | if not, oh man do I feel for Ubuntu love going down the drain | 23:51 |
nixternal | apachelogger: what revision just you push? 756939? | 23:52 |
nixternal | ya I can talk | 23:52 |
nixternal | s/just/did | 23:52 |
apachelogger | 757018 should be the latest | 23:53 |
apachelogger | with cmakelists updates and stuff | 23:53 |
nixternal | whoa | 23:53 |
nixternal | big time updates are going on then | 23:53 |
nixternal | here come your wallpapers | 23:53 |
nixternal | could they be any damn bigger? | 23:54 |
fdoving | could that server be any damn slower? | 23:54 |
nixternal | this svn up reminds me of a windows update | 23:54 |
apachelogger | lol | 23:54 |
apachelogger | nixternal: 6 sizes | 23:54 |
apachelogger | for every possible resolution | 23:54 |
nixternal | I see | 23:54 |
* apachelogger actually thinks there should be some moving after tagging | 23:55 | |
apachelogger | like but some of the sizes to kdeartwork or something | 23:55 |
nixternal | looks like tagging is on hold possibly | 23:55 |
apachelogger | 50mib just wallpapers is a lot | 23:55 |
nixternal | watching #kde4-devel | 23:55 |
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