[00:00] <B4S3M> nivek: yes .... no good :S
[00:00] <nivek> B4S3M: What happens when you play it?
[00:00] <nivek> Or try to play it, I mean.
[00:00] <nivek> In VLC
[00:01] <B4S3M> on VLC ... nothing just the bar indicator goes on the bar like its a 2 mins film or somthng
[00:01] <B4S3M> on any other player .... it displays a crappy msg abt aXXo and how he blablabla
[00:02] <nivek> What's the filetype? aXXo isn't necessarily a filetype, it's a nickname for this guy who rips DVDs and torrents them. If you downloaded one and it's not playing on VLC, it's probably a fake. Every aXXo movie I've seen has been DivX which VLC plays fine for me.
[00:03] <B4S3M> can 700 MB be a fake ?
[00:03] <nivek> B4S3M: Query me the link of where you got it.
[00:04] <nivek> And yes. For instance, some people download movies and are told to install a certain media player before they can play the movie. The certain media player is pretty much a huge trojan horse.
[00:05] <nivek> Which is why illegal downloads are bad :P
[00:05] <B4S3M> cant query .... cant identify ma self
[00:05] <nivek> Oh.
[00:05] <B4S3M> [02:05] [505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[00:06] <nivek> Ah, okay/
[00:06] <B4S3M> what do u need to know ?
[00:08] <brentp> hi, in the past, i've used nvidia-settings to set up dual-monitors, however, when i run it now, i dont get all of the options, just a minimal list of checkboxes, is there another apt package needed to see all the options?
[00:09] <nivek> B4S3M: After examining the file, it is indeed a fake. Members of the site where you got it have confirmed this.
[00:10] <B4S3M> confirmed wt ?
[00:10] <B4S3M> the file
[00:10] <Kozeris> hello, wtf is happening, i just installed kubuntu, started to configure everything, and then checked memory usage, and omg  from my 1gb ram [ and 1 gb swap]  diz fucking gay eats 800 mB ! im just in shock,  checked proceses, a lots  and every eats 50 mb,  why those asshole even runs? i know i configured and closed, so  just shut diz fucking proces up too, its even still work ...
[00:10] <B4S3M> or tth whole site ?
[00:10] <Kozeris> when i was on gnome live cd it just ate only  200 mb, and i was configured a lot too
[00:11] <nivek> B4S3M: Just that file.
[00:11] <Kozeris> and i installed diz shit to my windowzsicked friend too, i think he got heart atack at his home, couse he doesnt  run skype ...
[00:12] <stdin> Kozeris: 1) watch the language! 2) check the *real* memory usage
[00:12] <Kozeris> fuck diz all life, fuck that, my mom hiding cigaretes from me and i wanna to smoke now, omg i just will blow her head
[00:12] <stdin> Kozeris: most will be cached
[00:12] <Kozeris> stdin
[00:12] <Kozeris> ok sorry , what you mean real?
[00:13] <stdin> open ksysguard from KMenu ->system
[00:13] <Kozeris> i mean,  Phisical memory usage 800 MB of 1gb, and swap absolutely no usage
[00:13] <Kozeris> yes i watching over there
[00:13] <stdin> in there only the lowest band is actually used
[00:13] <stdin> the rest is cache and buffers
[00:13] <stdin> it'll be released if any app needs it
[00:14] <Kozeris> oh so when i will run like css or cod4, then  priorityty will go on this game yeah?
[00:14] <stdin> yes
[00:15] <Kozeris> okey thanks so much, but what about gnome, there the same actions and usage still 200 mb?  it just not realising, and  giving only free memory to other apps?
[00:15] <Kozeris> anyway thanks so much \o/
[00:15] <stdin> yeah, different apps report memory usage differently
[00:16] <Kozeris> oh key , very nice, thank you so much, Kkozeris!
[00:17] <Alonea> nivek: if you were wondering, I got it on and now my laptop no longer is overheating. w00t.
[00:19] <nivek> Alonea: Well done. Glad I could help.
[00:22] <Alonea> nivek: glad you did. I had been searching for a page with decent pictures for a while. some pages made it seem like the vent looking thing was what you were supposed to glue! not the silver square...
[00:38] <ki4slw> 07:34:23 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/brad/Juno.REAL AXXO TEAM.DVDRIP.ENG.avi< WHAT DOES THISE MEAN
[00:39] <KalEl> help please, when i start gnome-appearance-properties it says: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "22x22/apps/khelpcenter.png"
[00:40] <KalEl> sorry
[00:40] <Schuenemann> how do I upgrade to KDE 3.5.8?
[00:42] <LjL-Mobile> Schuenemann: are you on gutsy?
[00:42] <Schuenemann> LjL-Mobile, feisty
[00:42] <LjL-Mobile> Schuenemann: i think it's in backports
[00:43] <LjL-Mobile> Schuenemann: perhaps you may want to consider upgrading to gutsy, anyway.
[00:43] <Schuenemann> I will, but I can't right now
[00:43] <LjL-Mobile> Schuenemann: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-358.php
[00:43] <Schuenemann> LjL-Mobile, what is the package name?
[00:43] <Jucato> Schuenemann: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-358.php
[00:43] <Jucato> pfft
[00:43] <Jucato> instructions are there :)
[00:44] <LjL-Mobile> Jucato: it's possible they're just in backports now though
[00:44] <Jucato> we can always check :)
[00:44] <Jucato> !info kdebase feisty-backports
[00:44] <ubotu> Package kdebase does not exist in feisty-backports
[00:45] <k4ever> hi all
[00:46] <Schuenemann> I'm trying
[00:46] <k4ever> can someone point me to a good how-to on getting aiglx working right with ati's fglrx 8.43 and kubuntu 7.10
[00:46] <Jucato> Schuenemann: basically you just add the repository, and update your system.
[00:47] <Schuenemann> Jucato, I need that authentication key
 07:34:23 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/brad/Juno.REAL AXXO TEAM.DVDRIP.ENG.avi< WHAT DOES THISE MEAN
[00:47] <Bluesoul> greetings
[00:47] <Jucato> Schuenemann: yeah. the linik to that key is there too
[00:47] <Jucato> "Jonathan Riddell's key"
[00:48] <Jucato> ooops sorry for the highlight Riddell :P
[00:48] <ki4slw_> HOW DO I REGISTER MY NICK NAME
[00:48] <neville> erm
[00:48] <Jucato> !register | ki4slw_
[00:48] <ubotu> ki4slw_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[00:48] <Jucato> !caps | ki4slw_
[00:48] <ubotu> ki4slw_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[00:48] <neville>  /msg nickserv register password ?
[00:49] <ki4slw_> sorry
[00:52] <Schuenemann> Jucato, when you click full upgrade, where do you see changes?
[00:52] <Schuenemann> before applying
[00:52] <Jucato> click on Review Changes
[00:53] <Schuenemann> doh, so easy
[00:53] <Jucato> :)
[00:53] <Schuenemann> but there is KDE there
[00:53] <Schuenemann> just some random applications
[00:54] <Schuenemann> some that I don't even have, like kadressbook
[00:54] <ki4slw_> is there a good avi player besides kaffiene
[00:55] <Schuenemann> Jucato, sorry, nevermind
[00:55] <alberto> Brand new install via PXE. authentication failed for kerneo packages. Did the keys change?
[00:55] <Schuenemann> ki4slw_, kaffeine is my favorite, but there's mplayer, vlc...
[00:56] <ki4slw_> but kaffine will not play my moves
[00:58] <Schuenemann> ki4slw_, why not?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: kaddressbook is part of kontact,just like kmail
[01:00] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, yeah, but, I don't have any
[01:00] <Schuenemann> I use thunderbird
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: you uninstalled kontact?
[01:01] <Schuenemann> yes
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> so you do nothave the kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?
[01:02] <Schuenemann> huh... I installed kubuntu
[01:03] <shaffy> does anyone know of a program to convert wav to mp3?
[01:03] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, you only need that metapackage if you install ubuntu, xubuntu or something else?
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: its also helpful for upgrades.
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> shaffy: lame
[01:03] <shaffy> nosrednaekim: i'm guessing that there is no GUI for, correct?
[01:04] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, what will it do?
[01:04] <Jucato> shaffy: audacity
[01:04] <Schuenemann> shaffy, kaudiocreator has GUI
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> shaffy: kaudiokreator might work...
[01:04] <shaffy> perfect, thanks guys.
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: what will what do?
[01:04] <shaffy> much appreciated.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, what is kubuntu-desktop for?
[01:04] <Jucato> doesn't kaudiocreator just rip CD's?
[01:05] <Schuenemann> Jucato, it has an option for file, though I never used it
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: it installed a bunch of reccomended packages that make up the desktop, and I *believe* that its helpful for upgrades
[01:05] <Jucato> Schuenemann: it's a metapackage that makes sure the kubuntu default set of packages are installed, ensuring that the necessary packages are there, which makes sure that what needs to be upgraded is upgraded
[01:06] <Schuenemann> I thought it was installed by default
[01:06] <Jucato> although it's not 100% necessary when simply doing updates... but dist-upgrades to another version is another storry
[01:06] <Jucato> Schuenemann: it is, until you remove a package that's installed by default :)
[01:06] <Jucato> (like kaddressbook...)
[01:07] <Schuenemann> well, I'll cancel my upgrade and install it then
[01:07] <Schuenemann> is it worth?
[01:07] <Jucato> hm... personally, I don't think it's necessary in this case....
[01:08] <ace_suares> It turns out that grub made all /dev/md3 into /dev/md2 and this is not a kernel bug. It is related to the upgrade tough, and might be filed as a bug in itself. Also, the nvidia driver suddenly seems to be missing.
[01:08] <Schuenemann> meh... I'll remove kaddressbook later then
[01:11] <k4ever> i'm having issues with compiz-fusion and fglrx/aiglx in kubuntu 7.10.  when i run compiz --replace compiz starts up fine and everything works well, but i can't move my windows
[01:13] <Schuenemann> !libxine-extracodecs > ki4slw_
[01:14] <Jucato> Schuenemann: that package no longer exists in gutsy though...
[01:15] <Jucato> it's superceded by libxine1-ffmpeg, or better yet, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:15] <Jucato> k4ever: try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:15] <Schuenemann> hmmm
[01:15] <k4ever> don't know if i should ask for help here, in #compiz-fusion, or #ati channel.   i haven't had problems with an other distro.   i'm using ati's latest driver
[01:15] <k4ever> jucato:  thanks will try there
[01:17] <phoenixz> After quite a bit of tweaking, I got dualhead to work on my dell latitude d620 laptop.. problem only is now that a) the laptop screen is 4:3 while the lcd screen itself is 16:9 format, and b) I have no more direct rendering.. so compiz isnt working either..
[01:17] <phoenixz> I first used the "intel" video driver without problems, but this driver crashes in dual mode.. So Im using the "i810" driver now
[01:18] <phoenixz> but I dont have direct draw..
[01:18] <phoenixz> does anybody have a clue on how to fix this one?
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> !intel
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, You available for a minute?
[01:23] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: yea...sorry about earlier.
[01:23] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, NP..
[01:23] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, Im just asking since you said you never had any problems
[01:23] <unix_infidel> did acpi tools work for you?
[01:23] <unix_infidel> apt-cache search *acpi*
[01:24] <unix_infidel> with the wildcards
[01:24] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, right now, after lots of manual xorg.conf tweaking (yeah, got backups)
[01:24] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: well did you try connecting the vga device. then doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:25] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, one sec
[01:25] <unix_infidel> it should create a default xorg.conf for that setup.
[01:25] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, right now, after lots of manual xorg.conf tweaking (yeah, got backups) I got 2 monitors to work.. even the fn-F8 works (don't ask me how that worked, it suddenly did)
[01:26] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, problem is that Im having a few side effects
[01:26] <unix_infidel> like?
[01:26] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, 1) I had to use the i810 driver, not the intel... dunno if thats a problem
[01:26] <phoenixz> but
[01:26] <phoenixz> with that
[01:26] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, first, my screen is 4:3 and not 16:9 as the laptop screen is.. I figure thats a resolution thing I can fix quite easily, im not too worried (yet) about it
[01:26] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: i810 = intel chipset video driver.
[01:27] <tinin> How could I change file associations in firefox, (to open a file with a different program)?
[01:27] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, yeah, I know.. "intel" as well.. what are the differences?
[01:27] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: nothing really.
[01:27] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, for one, the "intel" driver crashes on the config I have right now
[01:27] <phoenixz> (I'll paste it in a second)
[01:27] <unix_infidel> just a chipset specific driver iirc.
[01:27] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, bigger problem is: no more direct rendering..
[01:28] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, so no compiz
[01:28] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, i810 supports direct rendering?
[01:28] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: yea, that's expected, compiz is fairly experimental.
[01:28] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, well compiz yeah, but on a lower level its not working either
[01:28] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, as in, when I do a glxinfo | grep direct I get this:
[01:29] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: it seems after a quick google people are getting 3d rendering with i810.
[01:29] <phoenixz> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[01:30] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, so how can I find out why direct rendering is not working in this case?
[01:30] <unix_infidel> no idea.
[01:30] <unix_infidel> I usually dont mess with anything besides nvidia when it comes to 3d.
[01:30] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, I know, but this was not my choice :P
[01:31] <phoenixz> another thing then...
[01:31] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, the image on the external monitor is... jiggy... its like there is some sort of disruption in the signal
[01:31] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, normally I'd think its a cable thing, but Ive seen it on another similar laptop with debian as well..
[01:31] <phoenixz> while windows versions are working normally
[01:32] <unix_infidel> modify the xorg.conf to work with that projector.
[01:32] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, could this be a driver problem as well?
[01:32] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: depends, was it working fine with "intel"
[01:32] <bmk789> is there a good way to setup a proxy server i can relay all web traffic through
[01:32] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, I haven't connected the projector yet ;) I'll do that once all is working ok
[01:32] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, its not working at all with the intel driver, the intel driver crashes on this dual configuration i have
[01:33] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, also, I have clone mode.. is there any way to have dual screen?
[01:33] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: I realized long ago.  Servers and Desktops with VERY specific hardware are keys to running linux.
[01:34] <mrdigital-laptop> whats the latest STABLE known working video driver for NVidia?
[01:34] <unix_infidel> Laptops are fairly finicky and should be used sparingly with nonstandard setsups.
[01:34] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, supposedly, linux ought to run pretty well on most hardware by now, not?
[01:35] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: for the same reason mac doesnt run well on most hardware.
[01:35] <sourcemaker> can I enable deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main universe multiverse restricted without getting in trouble
[01:35] <sourcemaker> = Kubuntu backports
[01:36] <phoenixz> well, mac is restricted on purpose.. :)
[01:36] <Jucato> sourcemaker: you'll probably run into some trouble once in a while perhaps
[01:38] <sourcemaker> Jucato: well.... ok
[01:38] <mrdigital-laptop> anyone know the answer to my question ll
[01:38] <mrdigital-laptop> lol
[01:38] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, okay, thanks for the help so far!
[01:38] <phoenixz> unix_infidel, If I make any advances, I'll let ya know
[01:38] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: please do.
[01:39] <unix_infidel> phoenixz: I have a thinkpad with a dock that connects to an external screen.
[01:39] <sourcemaker> mrdigital-laptop: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run .... from the nvidia page :-)
[01:39] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new
[01:39] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.19+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4896 kB, installed size 14848 kB
[01:39] <unix_infidel> I'd like to think there's a way to make xinerama work with the dock + external vga.
[01:39] <unix_infidel> But I gave up because it was poorly documented and not easy to work with.
[01:39] <mrdigital-laptop> sourcemaker: clean install of gusty what do i do
[01:39] <mrdigital-laptop> first time at KDE desktop
[01:40] <sourcemaker> mrdigital-laptop: ok... use apt
[01:40] <mrdigital-laptop> so sudo apt-get  now what
[01:41] <sourcemaker> !nvidia |mrdigital-laptop
[01:41] <ubotu> mrdigital-laptop: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:41] <Jucato> if it's your first time, it's best to stick to the Ubuntu-provided drivers
[01:41] <mrdigital-laptop> all it says is nvidia-glx-new
[01:41] <mrdigital-laptop> i cant i need OpenGL
[01:42] <sourcemaker> sudo apt-get install  nvidia-glx-new
[01:42] <mrdigital-laptop> didnt work when i had 7.04
[01:42] <Jucato> mrdigital-laptop: Ubuntu provides nvidia drivers with 3d acceleration
[01:42] <mrdigital-laptop> should it work in 7.10?
[01:42] <Jucato> it should work in 7.04 and 7.10.. perhaps you just didn't set it up properly?
[01:42] <mrdigital-laptop> what i did was clean install of 7.04
[01:43] <mrdigital-laptop> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[01:43] <mrdigital-laptop> isntalled rebooted
[01:43] <mrdigital-laptop> Xserver cant load
[01:43] <mrdigital-laptop> nvidia api mismatch
[01:43] <NickPresta> perhaps I'm mistaken. Wasn't there an "empty trash" button when viewing the trash bin?
[01:44] <Jucato> mrdigital-laptop: you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic too. but in Gutsy, you can just try to go to K Menu -> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Restricted Manager
[01:44] <mrdigital-laptop> ok thanks
[01:45] <mrdigital-laptop> what do i do in gusty step for step
[01:45] <Jucato> did you try using the Restricted Managers already?
[01:45] <mrdigital-laptop> no im downloading 7.10
[01:45] <Jucato> NickPresta: where?
[01:46] <Jucato> mrdigital-laptop: try it when it's installed. it automates installing binary drivers like Nvidia
[01:47] <tzd> is there a way to minimize Kontact to tray when clicking the close button in the upper left corner please?
[01:47] <Jucato> tzd: not directly, but if one of the sub-apps in Kontact is running its system tray, you can do that
[01:47] <NickPresta> Jucato, I'm not sure. I opened up the trash bin in D3lphin and I don't see an "empty trash" action. Perhaps it never existed, I'm not sure.
[01:48] <Jucato> NickPresta: never existed. I had to put in a right-click menu to empty the trash last time :)
[01:48] <Jucato> you can right-click in any empty space in the Trash
[01:48] <NickPresta> Jucato, ah okay. Thanks for the sanity check :)
[01:48] <Jucato> NickPresta: everyone is sane. only D3lphin isn't :P
[01:49] <tzd> Jucato: hmm I've got the Korganizers daemon reminder thingie running there already but every time i click on the "X" when i have Kontact up it closes. When i press the minimize button it just minimizes. What am i doing wrong?
[01:50] <Jucato> tzd: the korganizer reminder daemon isn't really the best one to use. try kmail's or akregators ;)
[01:52] <tzd> Jucato: Aaaah yeah, now we're talking :) Nice! Thanks a lot as always! :) Where do you livev by the way? You've been on here longer than I have and it's way past bedtime for me ^^
[01:53] <Jucato> Philippines :P
[01:53] <tzd> Jucato: It's almost like you only see daylight 24/7 there ;P
[01:54] <tzd> Jucato: so what time is it in the Philippines? 7-8 pm?
[01:54] <Jucato> Thu Jan  3 09:54:17 PHT 2008
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> H?
[01:55] <tzd> eeh...hmm oops... philippines is in the SE Asia... gah, for a second i thought it was next to Hawaii :(
[01:55] <Jucato> :P
[01:55] <tzd> Jucato: have a splendid day mate, im off to bed! thanks again
[01:56] <Jucato> bye! good night
[01:57] <mrdigital-laptop> so anyone here use linuxMCE?
[01:59] <Schuenemann> damn... these updates are taking long
[02:01] <hoxtonhopper> anyone else tuning in to the Linux Link Tech Show here? Aaron Seigo's talking about KDE4 right now -- http://www.tllts.org/
[02:14] <bmk789> mrdigital-laptop!
[02:14] <bmk789> dont raid other rooms for linuxMCE help
[02:15] <Schuenemann> what the.. after the whole download it says there was an error
[02:15] <Schuenemann> the whole update
[02:17] <Schuenemann> There was an error during updates. Possibly there was a problem in the download of some packages or the update would break packages.
[02:26] <Kernel> has anyone used kgpg?. im trying to set it up and it cant make keys..it errors.
[02:26] <Kernel> !kgpg
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kgpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <unix_infidel> Kernel: just use the command line gpg program.
[02:27] <unix_infidel> if you want help with kgpg post errors.
[02:28] <unix_infidel> but like i said the command line program will give you more verbose errors.
[02:28] <Kernel> hmm. im not very familier with gpg
[02:29] <Kernel> let me pastebin the error
[02:29] <Kernel> http://pastebin.com/m724ddc4e
[02:30] <Kernel> and im starting kgpg with user roob
[02:30] <DarkTan_> ok, i have folowed the gutsy specific directiong on the wireless card. My wifi light it light up on my laptop and the restricted drivers manager says it is in use and the network connection manager says that it is enabled
[02:30] <DarkTan_> but i can't connect to my network
[02:31] <DarkTan_> no wep or wpa on the router either
[02:32] <Tonren> Hey dudes, can anyone explain the error I'm getting in k3b when I try to burn a DVD ISO image?  http://rafb.net/p/ZAVGB065.html
[02:35] <Tonren> Uh... anyone there?
[02:36] <DarkTan_> kinda what i'm wondering......
[02:36] <intelikey> there ?
[02:42] <intelikey> clock out of sync  offset 21596 seconds   ;/
[02:42] <DarkTan_> how do i make flash not crash everytime it tires to work?
[02:44] <tribaldata> Hi guys anyone could tell me if there is something better then the wireless assistant ??
[02:44] <intelikey> !flash | DarkTan_ i don't know.  maybe look here.
[02:44] <ubotu> DarkTan_ i don't know.  maybe look here.: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:44] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[02:45] <DarkTan_> ok, i have gutsy now, so dapper and edgy backports won;t help me will they?
[02:45] <nandolinuxmaniac> hola!, me pueden dar la direccion de los canales en español de ubuntu y kubuntu?
[02:46] <NickPresta> !es | nandolinuxmaniac
[02:46] <ubotu> nandolinuxmaniac: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:46] <intelikey> DarkTan_ no
[02:46] <DarkTan_> didn't think so, would you be able to assist me with my wifi?
[02:46] <intelikey> DarkTan_ no.  i don't have any experance with wireless.   (i don't believe in it.)
[02:47] <DarkTan_> lol, gonna try a suggestion someone gave me then
[02:48] <DarkTan_> if i can't fix flash, can i atleast make the kde crash handler shut up?
[02:48] <tribaldata> DarkTan_: if you do manage to find that one out pass it along over here :)
[02:49] <DarkTan_> arrg
[02:49] <DarkTan_> i take it linux doesn't has a msconfig type program?
[02:49] <tribaldata> Hi guys anyone could tell me if there is something better then the wireless assistant ?? Anything one of you would recommend ?
[02:50] <NickPresta> DarkTan_, what are you trying to accomplish?
[02:50] <tribaldata> DarkTan_: humm there is the system config type of thing but no msconfig that i know
[02:50] <intelikey> no.   but a lot (most) apps use some sort of runtime configuration file DarkTan_    .blah.rc
[02:50] <DarkTan_> i want the kde crash handle to stfu and quit telling flash is broke
[02:50] <Kernel> any one have any ideas about this http://pastebin.com/m724ddc4e im trying to use kgpg
[02:51] <NickPresta> DarkTan_, I'm not sure there is a way to silence a crash notification. What triggers the notification?
[02:51] <intelikey> DarkTan_ ummm maybe remove flash ?
[02:51] <DarkTan_> .....
[02:51]  * DarkTan_ slaps himsefl
[02:51] <DarkTan_> why didn't i think of that?
[02:52] <tribaldata> omg lol
[02:52] <intelikey> idk
[02:53] <DarkTan_> odd....according to adept, flash isn't installed.....
[02:53] <NickPresta> DarkTan_, how did you install it?
[02:53] <DarkTan_> i could have sworw i used adept to install it
[02:54] <DarkTan_> flashplugin-nonfree was the one i though i installed
[02:54] <DarkTan_> bah, i figure out that one later
[02:55] <DarkTan_> ok, gona reboot and see if the wifi works
[03:01] <sunflower_kiss> the file dialog in firefox sucks :-(    is there any way to get firefox to use the native file dialog
[03:02] <unix_infidel> sunflower_kiss: you mean the dialog used in windows explorer?
[03:02] <unix_infidel> or atleast something similar :-P
[03:02] <Jucato> I think he means the KDE file dialog :)
[03:02] <hoxtonhopper> do you not like konqueror, sunflower_kiss?
[03:02] <Jucato> (or at least I hope so)
[03:03] <unix_infidel> Jucato: well most anything is better than the way firefox's filemanagement application works.
[03:03] <hoxtonhopper> for me konqueror is my default web browser, and firefox is the backup in case of compatibility trouble
[03:03] <unix_infidel> i just default everything to home and mv as necessary.
[03:03] <Jucato> s/filemanagement/file dialog/ :)
[03:04] <sunflower_kiss> hoxtonhopper: no, I tried konqueror, but it doesn't work very well... I couldn't even log into gmail
[03:04] <Jucato> hm... firefox isn't a file manager :)
[03:04] <unix_infidel> Jucato: could be.
[03:05] <sunflower_kiss> Jucato: no, I'm just talking about the dialog to load a file
[03:06] <sunflower_kiss> Jucato: yes, that's right, I want firefox to use the KDE filedialog
[03:06] <chadwick> how do u get lime wire to work?
[03:07] <NickPresta> chadwick, I would use Frostwire. It's much better.
[03:07] <sunflower_kiss> Jucato:  you said "s/filemanagement/file dialog/ :)"
[03:07] <chadwick> either way how do i install it?
[03:08] <Jucato> sunflower_kiss: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327828
[03:08] <sunflower_kiss> Jucato: what do you mean?
[03:08] <NickPresta> chadwick, with frostwire, go to their website (frostwire.com), download the deb file and then click on it in D3lphin. It should prompt you to install
[03:08] <Jucato> sunflower_kiss: that was for unix_infidel anyway... it's basically a sed/vim command for "search and replace" in short
[03:08] <Jucato> !frostwire | chadwick
[03:08] <ubotu> chadwick: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:08] <Jucato> !limewire | chadwick
[03:08] <ubotu> chadwick: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:08] <sunflower_kiss> Jucato: thank you :-)
[03:09] <Jucato> sunflower_kiss: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+for+Kubuntu+Feisty?content=67315
[03:09] <Jucato> and others: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE
[03:10] <DarkTan_> w00t! wireless works and that irrating admind mode crash went way
[03:12] <b0nn> can anyone point me to a how to for changing the splash image that is displayed whilst Kubuntu boots?
[03:12] <tribaldata> !splashscreen | b0nn
[03:12] <ubotu> b0nn: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:12] <b0nn> Ive just followed one and ended up changing grubs splash image, which isnt quite what I want
[03:13] <tribaldata> doh for gnome
[03:13] <chadwick> darkyan i think i knlow u
[03:13] <chadwick> darktan..
[03:13] <b0nn> I followed another site, and when I updated the kernel it said "no splashimage found"
[03:14] <DarkTan_> megatokyo?
[03:14] <dsmith_> b0nn: I just figured all that out, but I never botherd to right things down :(
[03:14] <tribaldata> b0nn: if you go to Kdeicon --> System Setting
[03:14] <chadwick> u live in fl rite?
[03:14] <DarkTan_> yep
[03:14] <DarkTan_> my ip tells ya that much
[03:14] <b0nn> oh hmm
[03:15] <chadwick> u work in advanced chrysler?
[03:15] <b0nn> I want the one that covers the screen messages out put by the kernel as it boots
[03:15] <dsmith_> i totally hacked mine to load up a standard KDE login prompt and used the standard kde gutsy background the whole way through the booting process.
[03:15] <dsmith_> oh so you dont want verbose?
[03:15] <b0nn> yeah
[03:15] <dsmith_> hmmm
[03:16] <dsmith_> these is a way to change that
[03:16] <dsmith_> one min
[03:17] <dsmith_>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:17] <dsmith_> have to make some changes to that file
[03:17] <navetz> can someone help me fix this : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:17] <dsmith_> backit up before you go messing with it
[03:17] <navetz> thats the error i get when i type alsamixer into a terminal.
[03:18] <b0nn> dsmith_: that changes grubs splash, behind the menu
[03:18] <billybobobo> how up-to-date are the KDE4 packages in the repos?
[03:18] <b0nn> I want to cover the next lot of messages
[03:18] <dsmith_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50561/
[03:19] <limac> anyone uses kubuntu hardy?
[03:20] <nivek> limac: Yes, but you might see #ubuntu+1 for support with it.
[03:20] <nivek> This channel is primarily for support for stable releases
[03:20] <b0nn> oh grr
[03:21] <limac> nivek; just wanted to no how u liked it? 0.0
[03:21] <limac> o.o
[03:21] <b0nn> thanks dsmith_ :)
[03:21] <Jucato> #ubuntu+1 is for Hardy support/questoins
[03:21] <limac> Jucato: hey, u use hardy, if yes, how do u like it???
[03:21] <Jucato> it's alpha? how else should I like it?
[03:22] <limac> just curious o.o
[03:22] <Jucato> too early in the process to have any opinion of it
[03:22] <limac> does it have the hardware autodetection capability?
[03:22] <Jucato> which hardware?
[03:22] <limac> like souncard and stuff
[03:22] <Jucato> but you'll have to ask in #ubuntu+1 anyway...
[03:23] <limac> sure thing
[03:23] <limac> thx
[03:23] <dwidmann> Hmm, I'm having quite the weird issue as of *looks at watch* ummmm, now. All of my kcmshell modules appear to be, umm, lost.  Bleh.
[03:24] <dsmith_> b0nn: there is another file I had to edit, but the name escapes me at the monent. Perhaps I should create a book entitled Ubuntu - Total Hacks and More
[03:24] <dsmith_> :)
[03:27] <b0nn> yeah
[03:27] <b0nn> I got a black screen by adding splash to the kernel line in my grub menu
[03:28] <b0nn> so now I have to figure what file it is looking for
[03:28] <dsmith_> do some searching online thats how I did it
[03:28] <dsmith_> took two days
[03:28] <b0nn> yeah
[03:28] <dsmith_> but its what I wanted?
[03:28] <dsmith_> ignore the question mark
[03:28] <dsmith_> lol
[03:28] <b0nn> lol
[03:28] <b0nn> Im putting a bsod on the screen as it boots
[03:29] <b0nn> sould be fun for a day or two
[03:29] <dsmith_> lMFAO
[03:29] <dsmith_> never thought about doing that but thats hilarious
[03:34] <dwidmann> Does anybody have any idea why all of my kcmshell modules would have disappeared off the face of the earth?  .... Seems they still exist ...... but kcmshell, kcontrol, and some programs can't seem to find them ... very annoying it is.
[03:38] <mrdigital> can someone jhelp me recreate my grub menu its fubared
[03:38] <ardchoille> dwidmann: Is this in kde4? kcontrol is gone in kde4.
[03:44] <dwidmann> ardchoille: no ..... kde3.
[03:58] <mrdigital> i reinstalled 7.10 and my grub is messed up cant access windows
[04:03] <intelikey> !grub | mrdigital
[04:03] <ubotu> mrdigital: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:06] <dan__> Hey Friends, can anyone help me to enable my wireless card?  It is being recognized, but will not enable.  It is being automatically disabled.  Thanks for any help.
[04:11] <jarosser06> what kind of card is it
[04:17] <Ahmuck> when typing in a ime in linux, i am only seeing the top part of the letters.  the bottom part of the chars are being cut off.  is there a way to increase spacing between lines so that all the chars can be seen?
[04:20] <Max-P> Hi, I Have lost all the default settings of KDE (I'm on Feisty) how can I retore them?
[04:24] <batis610> i'm creating a file in the current folder with fopen()...i want to create it in a sub-folder ./files and open it after... how?
[04:25] <batis610> $FileHandle = fopen('file.txt', 'w') or die("can't open file");
[04:27] <batis610> sorry... wrong room  :-D
[04:27] <ardchoille> batis610: I was thinking that was a little advanced for this channel :)
[04:29] <billybobobo> Max-P: copy the foles out of a new user's directory and give the permissions/ownership to you?
[04:29] <Max-P> billybobobo: They fixed my problem in #kubuntu-fr -> Deleted ~/.kde now all is fine
[04:30] <billybobobo> nice
[04:36]  * Jucato wonders if #kubuntu channels should start putting "Don't delete ~/.kde" in the topic too, like the #kde channel
[04:37] <Dr_willis> i delete .kde all the time.  :)
[04:37] <Dr_willis> of course i dont have anything imporntant in there
[04:38] <Dr_willis> It would be nice to have some sort of tool that can clean out the various .kde configs/settings and other cruft that seems to accumulate over time
[04:38] <subopt> I just installed Kubuntu/Gutsy, thinking that its default version of Python was 2.5, only to find out that it's actually 2.4. (The Ubuntu package listing said it was 2.5.) Is there a way to replace 2.4 with 2.5, and have everything work right?
[04:38] <Dr_willis> and allow easy backup/restores/transfers to other machines
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[04:39] <Dr_willis> !info python
[04:39] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[04:39] <Dr_willis> python --version
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Python 2.5.1
[04:39] <Dr_willis> I got 2.5 here.,
[04:40] <subopt> Dr_willis: mine (Kubuntu v7.10) installed with Python 2.4.3. What the???
[04:41] <Dr_willis> whens the last time you did a apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> is this a clean install? or a upgrade?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> Ive never messed with python manually.
[04:41] <subopt> Dr_willis: Haven't done one yet. Is that all it takes?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> One way to find out. :)
[04:42] <subopt> This is a clean install.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> theres proberly 200mb of updates. :)
[04:43] <subopt> Dr_willis:  Thanks, i guess i'll try that. Do you know if letting Adept update everything it can takes me to the latest/greatest?
[04:44] <sunny_> [    6.516000] PM: Resume from disk failed.
[04:44] <sunny_> why
[04:44] <sunny_> [   16.815516] PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@e0000000 for 0000:01:00.0
[04:44] <sunny_> anyone can help me?
[04:44] <awen_> sunny_: did you hibernate your machine?
[04:45] <sunny_> no
[04:45] <awen_> sunny_: then that's why there is nothing to resume
[04:46] <awen_> but must admit that the "PM: Resume from disk failed." can be a little confusing :)
[04:46] <sunny_> I don't known, I start to grub it show me the massage
[04:46] <b0nn> what does the + sign mean here
[04:46] <CrazyMYKL> is there a workaround for the libgif/libungif conflict so i can install kde4?
[04:46] <b0nn>  +        1    /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so
[04:47] <awen_> sunny_: it should do that... it's trying to resume; but as you havent
[04:47] <awen_> sunny_: ... hibernated there is nothing to resume
[04:47] <sunny_> sunny@tkchrain:~$ dmesg | grep ailed
[04:47] <sunny_> [   16.815516] PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@e0000000 for 0000:01:00.0
[04:47] <sunny_> [    6.516000] PM: Resume from disk failed.
[04:48] <sunny_> I known that
[04:48] <awen_> sunny_: the pci mem-thing... do you have any pci devices that actually doesn't work?
[04:49] <sunny_> But I never hibernated my machine
[04:49] <sunny_> NO
[04:49] <sunny_> I use laptop
[04:49] <awen_> sunny_: trust me, that message should be there
[04:50] <Dr_willis> its looking for a hibernation file.. it found none.. since you never hibernated,
[04:50] <sunny_> and how should I do?
[04:50]  * Dr_willis missed the actual problem.
[04:51]  * awen_ did too
[04:51] <sunny_> Ok,
[04:52] <sunny_> where I can find the hibernation file
[04:52] <awen_> sunny_: if you hibernate the machine, one will be created, and your machine will resume
[04:53] <awen_> if you just shut it down, disregard that message; it should just be there
[04:53] <Dr_willis> actually dosent tye system use the swap partition to hibernate to? I always disable hibernation.  so i dont use it.
[04:54] <awen_> Dr_willis: it does
[04:54] <se7en> !printer
[04:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:55]  * awen_ found out when moving ubuntu to another harddisk... remember to update the UUID of the swap-partition before hibernating :)
[04:55] <intelikey> Dr_willis by default it does.   it can be adjusted to use other   /etc/mkinitramfs/something/something
[04:55] <sunny_> I remember I have one hard disk partition can not mount automation
[04:55] <Dr_willis> i never under stood hot it can do that.. If i got 3gb of ram used.. and say 614 mb of swap used.. and i only have 1 GB of swap partition...
[04:55] <sunny_> Is that problem?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> How does it fit it all there. :)
[04:55] <CrazyMYKL> awen_: what if the installed RAM is larger than the swap partition?
[04:56] <awen_> CrazyMYKL: then it needs to unload a lot from the RAM before hibernating
[04:56] <CrazyMYKL> does it just mkswap a file on / ?
[04:56] <intelikey> Dr_willis it can't  you have to have sufficient swap to fit the ram into  for hybernate to disk to work.   as i understand it.
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Thats what i was wondering.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> so now we want a swap parittion of 3x ram :) just so we can hibernate!
[04:57] <CrazyMYKL> it seems as if that'd be the elegant solution
[04:57] <Dr_willis> but still if you are doing somthing big and use swap.. ... You could still get wehre you cant hibernate
[04:57] <sunny_> Are you talk to me Dr_wills?
[04:58] <awen_> yeah... the classic "unable to hibernate" error
[04:58] <awen_> sunny_: i think we went a bit away from your question
[04:59] <sunny_> my swap partition is 2X ram
[04:59] <awen_> sunny_: then you should be pretty safe
[04:59] <sunny_> my ran is 2GB
[05:00] <awen_> 1 GB of ram and 768 MB of swap and the hibernation worked for me in 80 % of the cases... the last 20 % was when usning large java apps
[05:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis ummm hybernate  "should" turn swap off just before it writes all the ram to the swap location,   i haven't plaied with it tho.
[05:05] <Olde> I can't get through to my ntfs partition through dolphin. it says hal refuses uid 1000. what do I do in order to get through?
[05:07] <Olde> hello
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Olde,  the common fix is to make a proper fstab entry for the partitions and  mount them  - bypasing the automounting stuff of hal.
[05:07] <Olde> eh, ok. still new at this
[05:07] <Olde> what do I do
[05:07] <Dr_willis> example fstab entry for my machine --> /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Edit the /etc/fstab - make a entry for yoyr hard drive. There is a script ive seen that can auto mate this but nevr used it
[05:08] <mrdigital> i added a grub boot entry
[05:08] <mrdigital> now i cant even get into kubuntu it hands
[05:08] <mrdigital> hangs
[05:11] <krawek> !flash
[05:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:11] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:11] <CrazyMYKL> mrdigital, can you get me the exact error?
[05:16] <batis610> how can i know permissions of a file
[05:17] <krawek> ls -al "the_file"
[05:18] <AmyRose> Has there been a recent update to the Synaptics touchpad driver?
[05:19] <AmyRose> Suddenly, I can't scroll horizontally
[05:19] <AmyRose> after an update
[05:25] <se7en> !printer
[05:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:32] <precioso> nrasileiro na area?
[05:33] <precioso> ops... brasileiro
[05:35] <precioso> sainda
[05:35] <se7en> !sp
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <MGrunde> !es
[05:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:47] <batis610> how to fix the 'unable to save to bookmarks in /home/.........' under gutsy.... it makes me crazy!!
[05:48] <MGrunde> Did you open dolphin as root?
[05:48] <batis610> no
[05:48] <MGrunde> Odd.
[05:49] <batis610> simple user i think
[05:49] <MGrunde> Open a terminal and type sudo rm /home/...
[05:49] <MGrunde> Where /home/... is the file name in the error.
[05:49] <MGrunde> !su
[05:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:49] <Jucato> batis610: no don't!
[05:50] <batis610> it will rmove the file...
[05:50] <Jucato> MGrunde: please be very very careful i giving out commands like that...
[05:50] <MGrunde> Don't?
[05:50] <MGrunde> I've had the same error many times.
[05:50] <batis610> and..
[05:51] <Jucato> well it's not the command that's the problem, but the lack of a specific target :)
[05:51] <MGrunde> And it occured by opening dolphin as root, running "sudo dolphin"
[05:51] <Jucato> sudo chown username:username <file in question>
[05:51] <Jucato> it's a known issue... with sudo or kdesudo (in Gutsy)
[05:51] <MGrunde> Yeah.  I suppose you're right.  That's probably an easier way of doing it.
[05:52] <Jucato> oh, and try not to use sudo when running GUI apps :)
[05:52] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:52] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[05:53] <Jucato> batis610: go to the file that's being mentioned  in the error message (I presume it's ~/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/bookmarks or something) then sudo chown username:username bookmarks.xml
[05:53] <MGrunde> The fine in question is something like -  /home/USER/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml
[05:53] <MGrunde> right?
[05:53] <Jucato> I believe so
[05:54] <MGrunde> Well, that did the trick.
[05:54] <batis610> it works....
[05:55] <batis610> i tried fixing it before by googling... and it was fixed for a while... hope that this now will fiw it definitively
[05:56] <intelikey> sudo chown `whoami` $HOME/.kde -R
[05:56] <MGrunde> It will, but like Jucato said, it will reoccure if you run "sudo dolphin" again
[05:57] <MGrunde> So if you need to use dolphin with root priviliages, run "kdesudo dolphin"
[05:57] <intelikey> kdesudo ?
[05:57] <intelikey> kdesu
[05:58] <MGrunde> kedsudo replaced kdesu in Gutsy and beyond.
[05:58] <intelikey> MGrunde do you have a command   kdesudo  ?
[05:58] <MGrunde> Yes
[05:58] <intelikey> oh   ok.      well i don't.
[05:58] <Jucato> intelikey: notice he said gutsy :)
[05:58] <MGrunde> ?
[05:58] <Jucato> it really doesn't matter much. if kdesudo is installed, kdesu is symlinked to kdesudo
[05:59] <Jucato> if not, plain kdesu is used
[05:59] <intelikey> Jucato yes i saw.
[06:05] <MGrunde> I don't think that the Monitor & Display module for System Settings has ever worked for me.  It always says it can not be loaded.  Is there an easy way to fix that?
[06:10] <se7en> somebody help me with brother 115c printer i installed the right driver but now i get /usr/bin/lpr -P 'MFC210C' '-#1' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' : execution failed with message:
[06:11] <MGrunde> What's the model name of the printer?
[06:12] <MGrunde> HL/DPC/MFC
[06:12] <MGrunde> etc.
[06:12] <se7en> brother dcp 115c
[06:13] <se7en> brother site tells me to use the mfc210c driver and lpr printing system
[06:14] <basy> hi whitch preces strarts screensaver?
[06:16] <MGrunde> What's the message it gives you?
[06:16] <MGrunde> Basy:  Could you please repeat your question?  I'm not sure I understood you.
[06:16] <basy> after I install KMatrix3D after (1 minute) time shows only black screen
[06:17] <basy> I cannot start any screen saver, only black screen will display
[06:18] <MGrunde> Have you tried screen savers that do not rely on OpenGL?
[06:18] <se7en>    /usr/bin/lpr -P 'MFC210C' '-#1' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' : execution failed with message:
[06:18] <basy> I can start prewiew, no problem, but after time pnly black screen
[06:18] <MGrunde> Right, but it's saying it failed with some message, doesn't it print what the message is?
[06:19] <basy> no messages, ony black screen like screen saver
[06:19] <MGrunde> Sorry Basy, that was meant for se7en.
[06:19] <MGrunde> Basy: What do you get when you run "glxinfo | grep OpenGL"
[06:19] <se7en>         /usr/bin/lpr: The printer or class was not found.
[06:20] <makers_mark> hey people,i have a question about kde.can anyone humor me?
[06:20] <MGrunde> Go right ahead.
 : it displays my driver
 : I can see preview of all screensaver
[06:21] <makers_mark> i tried installing kubuntu on my pc and the install failed the first 4 times.it finally installed after but kept on freezing constantly.
[06:22] <makers_mark> so i switched to ubuntu and gnome works perfectly fine.then i tried installing kde thinking maybe the install disc was bad but it kept on freezing even then.
[06:22] <makers_mark> any clues as to why?
[06:22] <MGrunde> makers_mark: Yeah, my first guess was that there was a problem with the install CD.
[06:23] <makers_mark> so no clue why my pc doesn't take kde well?
[06:23] <basy> makers_mark: try with minimal CD
[06:23] <MGrunde> Well, if the CD was bad, then there could be any number of errors that would affect KDE.
[06:24] <makers_mark> well i installed kde in kubuntu via "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:24] <MGrunde> basy: Can you run glxgears?
[06:24] <makers_mark> kde in ubuntu*
[06:24] <makers_mark> so even if the cd was faulty,downloading and installing kde in ubuntu should have been fine.
 yes no problem
[06:24] <makers_mark> right?
[06:25] <basy> yrs
[06:25] <basy> yes
[06:25] <MGrunde> se7en: I found someone having similiar problems with the same printer on these forums: http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?24,3943,3943  perhaps you could try to repeat what they did.
[06:26] <MGrunde> makers_mark:  You installed Ubuntu from a different CD, and it works perfectly, but when you installed KDE, it didn't function properly?
[06:27] <MGrunde> Basy: Have you tried removing KMatrix3D?
[06:27] <makers_mark> exactly
[06:27] <basy> no
[06:27] <Crell42> Hi all.  I'm setting up a new router, and in the process need to cycle the internet connection on my desktop (Kubuntu 7.10).  When I try to "/etc/init.d/networking restart", however, I get an error "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0".  Why is that, and how can I just cycle the connection without rebooting?
[06:27] <makers_mark> MGrunde i blamed the kubuntu cd,but then installing kde in ubuntu ended up doing the same thing.
[06:27] <MGrunde> makers_mark:  How did you install KDE?
[06:28] <MGrunde> Crell:  You just want a new DHCP lease?
[06:28] <makers_mark> MGrunde "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[06:28] <se7en> MGrunde: i am a step further i installed lpr and now my error is lpr: cannot open /var/spool/lpd/MFC210C/.seq: No such file or directory
[06:28] <makers_mark> MGrunde i followed a small tutorial to do it,want to see it?
[06:28] <MGrunde> Basy: As it seems that that package caused your problem, I'd try uninstalling it and seeing if that helps.
[06:29] <Crell42> MGrunde: Yes.
[06:29] <MGrunde> makers_mark: No, that was the right command, I thought perhaps you just tried installing kdelibs, or something like that.
[06:29] <MGrunde> Crell: sudo dhclient eth0
[06:29] <Crell42> And neither ifdown/ifup nor /etc/networking is doing it.
[06:29] <makers_mark> MGrunde so kde is just not blending with my hardware?
[06:31] <MGrunde> makers_mark:  That really doesn't make much sense though.  I've run KDE on a very wide assortment of hardware, from upper end, to servers, just for fun, and I've had no major problems.
[06:32] <MGrunde> What exactly freezes in KDE?  The whole environment or certain programs?
[06:32] <makers_mark> MGrunde it doesn't make much sense to me either and i'm a linux nubcake.i mean i've modded xp with so many skins and it never failed.at least not because of the modding.
[06:32] <MGrunde> Crell: Did that work for you?
[06:33] <makers_mark> MGrunde you want to hear the kicker though?
[06:33] <MGrunde> Of course.
 Any other way how to strat KMatrix3D after 5 minutes? I like only this one...
[06:34] <makers_mark> with kubuntu running i decided to change the logon splashscreen from the default one to the one with the handprint,after which i restarted.then it wouldn't boot.i reinstalled grub but the whole linux partition was screwed up.
[06:34] <MGrunde> Basy: Is it just KMatrix3D that is giving you the problems, or is it all screensavers?
[06:34] <basy> all
 all
[06:35] <MGrunde> Crell: Welcome back
[06:35] <Crell> It would be nice if my computer TOLD me it was going offline. :)
[06:36] <Crell> I am also having the same issue now with a laptop with WiFi, same situation.  The first time it connects, it works fine.  After that, it fails to do so.
[06:36] <MGrunde> Basy:  I'm going to try to install KMatrix3D.  Give me a few minutes.
 thank you
[06:38] <lupisak> hello! Happy new year fellow kubuntu users!
[06:38] <yao_ziyuan> i found the cause of my bug yesterday
[06:39] <MGrunde> makers_mark: Wow.  That reminds me a lot of my first experience with Linux.  As you learn, you'll find that repairs are usually pretty easy.  I don't run into as many system threatning breakdowns anymore.
[06:39] <MGrunde> Happy New Year lupisak
[06:39] <yao_ziyuan> if you install kubuntu 7.10 with your location set to Shanghai
[06:39] <yao_ziyuan> and update all upgradeable packages after install,
[06:40] <lupisak> I have this annoying issue every time I install something with apt-get from command line, I was hoping someone here have seen this before.
[06:40] <MGrunde> Crell:  If you're using KDE, I'd try out KWifiManager.  It's always worked for me.
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> then you run into serious errors
[06:40] <lupisak> I get numerous occurences of this error message:
[06:40] <MGrunde> Yao_Ziyuan: Have you filed a bug report at Launchpad?
[06:40] <MGrunde> lupisak: What's the message?
[06:40] <yao_ziyuan> no
[06:40] <lupisak> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166    Major opcode:  144   Minor opcode:  3   Resource id:  0x0 Failed to open device
[06:41] <lupisak> Ah, by the way this is Edgy.
[06:41] <MGrunde> lupisak: You recieve that when running "apt-get install [PACKAGE]"??
[06:41] <lupisak> yes, just after each program is installed.
[06:42]  * Crell kicks his new router.
[06:42] <lupisak> but before it's restarted (in case of daemons)
[06:42] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan: It'd be really helpful if you did.
[06:42] <MGrunde> !launchpad
[06:42] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:42] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: not very convenient
[06:42] <MGrunde> Crell: What make and model of router?
[06:43] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: i suggest to put a robot in this channel,
[06:43] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: with which i can input fields for a bug report interactively
[06:43] <Crell> NetGear WTG624
[06:43] <kolbasa> общий саламалейкум =) русские пацаны есть?
[06:43] <lupisak> I don't want to paste the entire log here, will probably be kicked. Will put it online instead. hang on.
[06:43] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan:  If you believe it is a bug, then that is where you would file the report.  If you would like help, you can tell me the errors you recieve.
[06:43] <Crell> Got it free from a friend as a hand-me-down to replace an IPCop box that doesn't do wireless and sounds like a jet engine. :-)
[06:43] <MGrunde> !russian
[06:43] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:44] <makers_mark> MGrunde thanks for your help.
[06:44] <Crell> Unfortunately it seems to be missing a few features.
[06:44] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: i'm talking about a new interface to file a bug... by talking to a bot in this channel, interactively
[06:44] <kolbasa> ёбана рот! русские есть? =)
[06:46] <MGrunde> makers_mark: No problem.  If you're interested in attempting a possible but slightly dangerous solution, I'd suggest installing Hardy.
[06:47] <makers_mark> MGrunde i only use linux now to mess around and get used to it.i think i'll learn about it and then do more exciting stuff with it.thanks though.
[06:47] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan:  That would be a very nice feature to havem but incredibly difficult to implement.
[06:48] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: not so difficult
[06:48] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: the bot would be just like a command line utility that lets you input every field of your bug report
[06:48] <makers_mark> MGrunde thanks,it won't let me PM because i don't have an account.
[06:49] <yao_ziyuan> actually this can be useful to all open source projects
[06:49] <MGrunde> !register | makers_mark
[06:49] <ubotu> makers_mark: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:49] <makers_mark> i'll do that a bit later.
[06:49] <makers_mark> but thanks.
[06:50] <makers_mark> people on here don't chat as much as in ubuntu
[06:50] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan: I agree it would be.  However, I am in no position to do such a thing.  If you would be willing to start such a project, I'm sure you would attract many followers.
[06:50] <MGrunde> makers_mark: It's not usually this quiet.  There's usually a bit more life.
[06:50] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: i want to talk to developers of a bug filing system like bugzilla
[06:51] <lupisak> here's a log of (some of) the results from my last apt-get upgrade (same result when installing individual packages though): http://www.develo.ltd.uk/
[06:51] <makers_mark> i see.
[06:51] <lupisak> sorry.... here's a log of (some of) the results from my last apt-get upgrade (same result when installing individual packages though): http://www.develo.ltd.uk/kubuntu-BadDevice.txt
[06:51] <MGrunde> !pb | lupisak
[06:51] <ubotu> lupisak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <MGrunde> lupisak: That is odd, but I don't believe it's very harmful.  What terminal program are you using
[06:53] <lupisak> MGrunde: konsole
 did u try KMatrix?
[06:54] <lupisak> MGrunde: I've been searching high and low and I just can't seem to find what is causing it. It did not appear when kubuntu was first installed.
[06:55] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan: Then I would suggest visiting joining their mailing list : http://tinyurl.com/39rs9h
[06:55] <MGrunde> basy: I've got it intsalled, but haven't had a chance to run it yet.  I'll do that now.
[06:55] <yao_ziyuan> thank you i will drop them a message
 thank you
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: what are other major bug filing systems?
[06:56] <yao_ziyuan> bugtracker...
[06:57] <MGrunde> yao_ziyuan: Launchpad is the major big filing system for Ubuntu
[06:57] <the-erm> Is there away to hook up 2 mice, and switch the buttons on 1?  I know it's possible to have 1 mice, it's the mirrored button usage that would be the "is it possible" portion of the question
[06:57] <yao_ziyuan> MGrunde: never heard of :)
[06:57] <MGrunde> !launchpad
[06:57] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:57] <the-erm> My kids are left handed.
[06:57] <level1> what does this mean? Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[06:58] <unix_infidel> the-erm: might be with one of the multi pointer modified x11 systems.
[06:58] <level1> I got it while running apt-get update
[06:58] <the-erm> ok unix_infidel thanks.
[06:59] <level1> the-erm: that will be integrated into the next major version of X, which means it will show up in a year or so
[06:59] <the-erm> cool.
[06:59] <level1> the-erm: although, it might be possible to do it without multi-pointer X, so keep poking around
[06:59] <the-erm> I will.
[06:59] <unix_infidel> multi pointer X is a damn near necessity now.
[06:59] <level1> unix_infidel: why?
[06:59] <level1> unix_infidel: I mean, its cool, but is in important?
[07:00] <level1> and why can't I install kmplayer source package!  grrr
[07:00] <unix_infidel> level1: because without it developing software that expands upon a defunct user interface is impossible.
[07:00] <level1> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_commercial_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:00] <unix_infidel> i mean if i had a choice i'd rather have a tablet and an HD LCD than a mouse and an HD LCD>
[07:01] <unix_infidel> or both.
[07:01] <level1> unix_infidel: call me old fasioned, but I don't think that we need to change the old mouse-and-keyboard paradigm... its very effiecient
[07:01] <MGrunde> basy: I ran it for a minute or two without problem.  How long did you say you were able to run it for?
[07:01] <unix_infidel> level1: dunno.  It allows a bunch of developers from various user requirements backgrounsd to develop linux based solutions.
[07:01] <level1> unix_infidel: I think what need to happen is we need to have an universal document viewer... like konqueror, but more so
[07:02] <unix_infidel> level1: they got that going in KDE4
[07:02] <unix_infidel> next?
[07:02] <level1> next?
[07:02] <level1> next!
[07:03] <ogre> how do i make certain apps run when i startup? something similar to "sessions" in gnome
[07:03] <MGrunde> lupisak: Just for fun, install yakuake, then run it.
[07:03] <MGrunde> !yakuake
[07:03] <ogre> sorry i just started using kde like 20 minutes ago
[07:03]  * Crell <3 yakuake. 
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yakuake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <MGrunde> Aww.
[07:04] <lupisak> yakuake, ok... what wil that do?
[07:04] <MGrunde> It's the best terminal program ever.
[07:04] <MGrunde> It hides until you need it.
[07:04] <lupisak> cool, will try it.
 whatever I set in "DesktopSettings->Screensaver" i can see in /.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc OK, after my time nothing happend
[07:04] <dhq> my konqueror is not working i cant browse any sites where as ping and irc everything is working fine
[07:05] <Crell> lupisak: You know how in any Quake3-based game, you have a console that drops down from the top of the screen?  It's like that, only cooler. :-)
[07:05] <MGrunde> dhq: Does firefox, or another alternate browser work?
[07:05] <lupisak> Crell: ok. I'm not a game player but it sounds promising.
 is there any proces lunching screensaver? "ps aux | grep screen"
[07:06] <Crell> Ah
[07:06] <dhq> well i am on the live cd
[07:06] <level1> lupisak: if you are a serious commandliner you won't be able to live without it once you get used to it
[07:06] <lupisak> level1: good thing it's GLP then :)
[07:07] <level1> glp?
[07:07] <Crell> Gold Light Projector?
[07:07] <lupisak> sorry, GPL
 do you have xscreensaver running?
[07:07] <lupisak> got my fingers mixed...
[07:07] <level1> wait, there are programs that aren't gpl?
[07:07] <level1> where?
[07:07] <Crell> Sure there are.  Apache is under the Apache2 license. :-)
[07:07] <lupisak> level1: yeah I think so, but in the other world.
[07:07] <MGrunde> basy: Not right now.  Or at least ps doesn't think so.
[07:07] <level1> Crell: eh, that's basically GPL
[07:08] <lupisak> Crell: hehe, yeah, that's true :)
[07:08] <Crell> eh, no it's not.
[07:08] <Lazarus> hey, whats the difference between a tar.gz and a tar.gz2 package?
[07:08] <level1> Crell: whats the difference?  are they incompatable licences?
[07:08] <Crell> Apache2 license is "Do whatever you want, but don't bring a patent suit or the license is revoked."
[07:08] <level1> Lazarus: I'm guessing that gz2 is slightly better compression
[07:08] <Crell> GPL is "do whatever you want, but you must share-alike under the same license."
[07:09] <yao_ziyuan> let me ask it again:
[07:09] <level1> Lazarus: but you should use bz2 if you want good compression
[07:09] <Jay-Oh-En> can somebody help me get my mic working
[07:09] <yao_ziyuan> how to set screen resolution for the bootup screen?
[07:09] <Crell> GPLv3 now includes an Apache2-compatible patent clause, but GPLv2 does not.
[07:09] <Lazarus> level1, I often see gz and gz2 files for download in tandem
[07:09] <Lazarus> im just wondering what the real difference is
[07:09] <Crell> Lazarus: I think you mean gz and bz2.
[07:09] <Crell> I've never heard of gz2.
[07:10] <Lazarus> Crell, I could be mistaken
  I belive the file: ~/.xscreensaver is my problem
[07:10] <level1> Lazarus: bz2 is better compression (smaller files) but gz is kept for legacy reasons
[07:10] <Crell> bz2 is just another compression algorithm, which at least on textual data is far better than gz.
[07:10] <Lazarus> Crell, I see
[07:10] <Crell> The technical details between the two I couldn't begin to discuss.
[07:11] <level1> Crell: I demand that you explain all the details
[07:11] <Lazarus> ive always wondered what the difference is, and why you can download one or the other and choose
[07:11] <level1> Crell: and tie it into the british rule of china in the 1900s somehow
[07:11] <lupisak> Crell: thanks for the clarification of the licenses.
[07:11] <MGrunde> basy: I don't seem to have that file.
[07:11] <dan724> Hi, I am having an issue connecting to a wireless network. I am using a D-Link AP that serves out DHCP addresses. I am using a linksys PCMCIA wireless card that uses bcm43xx linux drivers. The card appears to work fine and appears in iwconfig and ifconfig. I can also see the wireless network and use iwconfig to associate with the ap. What does not work is getting a dhcp address. I use dhclient and it sends out several DHCPOFFERS but ne
[07:12] <Crell> level1: Well gzip was developed by the Chinese in the late 1800s.  The British improved upon it and created bz2 by adding Earl Gray tea to it, but the Chinese were so incensed that it triggered the Boxer Rebellion.
[07:12] <ogre> how do i set my apps to autostart? something like "sessions" in gnome
[07:12] <level1> Crell: you know your history
[07:12] <MGrunde> dan724: Are you on the notebook now using a wired connection?
[07:12] <Crell> level1: My parents are history teachers. :-)
[07:13] <lupisak> Crell: :) :)
[07:13]  * Crell goes back to cursing out his network.
[07:13] <dan724> MGrunde: no, I am on another computer using a wired connection. The notebook doesnt have a wired connection.
[07:13] <Lazarus> Crell, heh, very nice summary
[07:14] <MGrunde> ogre: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs#KDE
[07:14] <lupisak> Hey, yakuake is pretty cool, but I'm getting blinded! it's too white! I need black background in order to do 16 hours a day in front of the computer :)
[07:14] <level1> lupisak: you can change it by right clicking on the body of the, um, white
[07:14] <MGrunde> lupisak: I'm sure you can set that somewhere or another. Maybe it's in the man
[07:15] <MGrunde> level1: Wow.  I never knew that.  Haha.
[07:15] <MGrunde> That sure is convienent
[07:15] <lupisak> haha, right click, settings, schema, "white on black"
[07:15] <level1> MGrunde: because yakuake is a konsolepart embedded in the window (in a very weird way) its not part of the yakuake menu
[07:16]  * Crell prefers green on black.
[07:16] <level1> MGrunde: an unfortunate hack
[07:16] <lupisak> I just couldn't see it because I was blinded...
[07:16] <MGrunde> dan724: Okay.  So you connect it iwconfig, right? Do you have a signal strength?
[07:16] <level1> hey, could we disable the pcspkr module by default in future version of ubuntu?
[07:17] <lupisak> Crell: green on black brings back memories of my good old hercules...
[07:17] <dhq> is it possible to for me to install linux on my flash drive without affecting the current o/s
[07:17] <Crell> It's actually much better for the eyes. :-)
[07:17] <dan724> MGrunde: yes, it associates with the ap just fine, I have a good signal strength (in the 70-80 range).
[07:17] <Crell> OK, this is annoying.
[07:18] <Crell> I have two computers on the same AP/Router, both with addresses.  But they can't ping each other.
[07:18] <level1> Crell: twighlight zone!
[07:18] <Crell> Apparently.
[07:18] <Crell> I knew it was a bad idea to switch routers at 11 pm in the middle of the week.
[07:19] <MGrunde> dan
[07:19] <level1> little did that computer know, it had entered.... the twighlight zone
[07:19] <MGrunde> dan724: And sudo dhclient wlan0 doesn't work?
[07:19] <MGrunde> Assuming it is wlan0
[07:20] <MGrunde> Crell: Try static addesses?
[07:20] <Crell> Er, why?
[07:20] <dan724> MGrunde: correct, dhclient simply sends out DHCPOFFERS for a while and then quits when it doesnt get an address. I've made sure that no other dhclients are running before running dhclient as well.
[07:21] <MGrunde> dhq: Look into Puppy Linux or Feather Linux for installing a Linux disto on a thumb drive.
[07:21] <MGrunde> Crell:  My method of fixing things is trying every possible idea until one works.
[07:21] <MGrunde> Maybe the old router isn't very friendly with DHCP for some reason.
[07:22] <Crell> heh.  Well, I'd have to manually configure the gateway and.... Oh bloody hell.
[07:22]  * Crell decides he's too tired to be working on the network.
[07:22] <MGrunde> dan724: And you've never had problem with dpch on your router before?
[07:23] <MGrunde> Crell: Just buy a Buffalo router with DD_WRT installed on it.
[07:23] <Crell> It would help if I plugged the other computer into the new router in addition to this computer.  Maybe then they could ping each other.
[07:24] <dan724> MGrunde: nope, ive had many a lan party using this very same ap with 5-10 people all having no problem. They all use windows machines though... I unfortunately dont have a windows laptop to try this with.
[07:24] <Crell> I will probably cycle again in a moment... :-)
[07:24] <MGrunde> Good luck.
[07:24] <makers_mark> hey MGrunde,speaking of routers.i want to get a new router to replace my linksys wrt54gs v5.i was thinking about the airport extreme but figured i could get a better router for the same money.so i was looking at the linksys wrt600n,what do you think about it?
[07:25] <makers_mark> btw i want an n-compliant router.
[07:25] <level1> how do I download one package from the ubuntu website?  I want to download this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/source/kmplayer but theres no link
[07:26] <makers_mark> level1 try "sudo apt-get install kmplayer"
[07:26] <MGrunde> makers_mark: I'm in the same situation.  I would like an n router, but at the same time I would really like a router that works with DD_WRT or Tomato firmware.
[07:26] <lupisak> makers_mark: what on earth is an n-compliant router?
[07:26] <MGrunde> 802.11n
[07:27] <level1> makers_mark: I just want to .deb... I don't want to have to add the hardy repos, update, download the file, remove the repos, and then update again. Furthermore, it might bring in some hardy dependencies and hose my system
[07:27] <lupisak> makers_mark: MGrunde: yep, being able to install DD_WRT is the most important for me
[07:27] <level1> makers_mark: I just want the file!
[07:27] <makers_mark> level1 then i can't help you (i'm a nub :(  ) ask these guys.
[07:28] <NickPresta> level1, are you on Hardy?
[07:28]  * Crell42 returns...
[07:28] <lupisak> 802.11n being faster than b and g?
[07:28] <level1> NickPresta: no, but its a source file
[07:28] <makers_mark> MGrunde lupisak> i don't really care what firmware as long as it doesn't bottleneck as much as my current router does.
[07:28] <level1> NickPresta: so I can compile it against gutsy
[07:28] <MGrunde> Faster and with a longer range.
[07:28] <NickPresta> level1, I don't suggest mixing packages from one ubuntu version to the other. Why do you need hardy version of kmplayer?
[07:28] <Crell42> lupisak: n > g > b, but n is also still pre-release.
[07:28] <makers_mark> lupisak yeah,it's faster than b & g
[07:29] <level1> NickPresta: I need kmplayer with knpplayer support, but the gutsy version won't compile with it
[07:29] <dan724> levell: choose the file that works with your system: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kmplayer/
[07:29] <lupisak> Crell42: Aha, I c. that's why
[07:29] <MGrunde> makers_mark: Do you have any gigabit complient wired computers?
[07:30] <makers_mark> MGrunde i have a macbook pro who's wireless card supports 802.11n
[07:30] <level1> dan724: for the love of god, thank you
[07:30] <dan724> levell: np, it took me forever to find it the first time
[07:31] <MGrunde> makers_mark: Wow.  Those things are fancy.  You probably don't need gigabit ethernet then.
[07:31] <Crell42> lupisak: That's why what?
[07:32] <lupisak> Crell42: that's why I have not heard about it yet :)
[07:32] <Crell42> Ah.  Well there is 802.11n hardware out there, based on a candidate spec.
[07:32] <Crell42> I'm avoiding it for now.
[07:32] <makers_mark> MGrunde no,but lately i've been having trouble with the router not working wirelessly and so i'm thinking that if i get a router,i should get one that's good.
[07:33] <makers_mark> not just one to replace this one for another couple of months.
[07:33] <lupisak> hehe, I'll keep my WRT54GL until it's *actually* released then :)
[07:33] <makers_mark> lupisak stop bragging!
[07:34] <lupisak> makers_mark: bragging? that's an ancient router! :)
[07:34] <level1> what happens if IEEE makes a major change to the wireless n spec?
[07:34] <level1> are all those devices just useless?
[07:35] <Crell42> They may be able to take a firmware upgrade, maybe not.  Depends on the change.
[07:35] <Crell42> That's why I'm avoiding it. :-)
[07:35] <lupisak> level1: hehe, I guess they can still use b and g :)
[07:35] <makers_mark> lupisak hence the sarcasm in my joke being intensified :P
[07:35] <NickPresta> level1, I suggest you make sure you have the sources line in your sources.list. Then, `sudo apt-get build-dep kmplayer` to make sure you have all the dependencies. Download the source file (http://kmplayer.kde.org/download.php) and then ./configure with what ever options you need/prefer. make and make install. Install it to /opt/bin so you can remove it if you need to or you can have both the repo version an
[07:35] <NickPresta> d the cutting edge version.
[07:35] <dan724> *sigh* I really wish this wireless junk would work...
[07:36] <Crell42> d?
[07:36] <MGrunde> makers_mark: Well I have a Netgear draft N router that I'm pretty unhappy with, so I'd suggest staying away from it.
[07:37] <level1> ugh... why didn't ubuntu just compile kmplayer with npp support?
[07:37] <lupisak> dan724: cabled networks are a lot more stable :) on my laptop the keyboard will stop working after a random time if the wireless is enabled, hence I disabled it for now...
[07:38] <makers_mark> MGrunde i'm going to get it in a couple of months anyway,so it's not exactly "a rush".
[07:40] <dan724> lupisak: lol, that is a very interesting problem to troubleshoot... I know what you mean about wireless networks being unstable
[07:40] <lupisak> dan724: exactly. this is why I decided that it is not worth my time, as my computer is on my desk 99% of the time anyway.
[07:41] <dan724> MGrunde: in an effort to confuse you further, while I am not getting an ip on my wireless, I am revieving packets, (ifconfig reports almost 1200 RX packets now) and tcpdump reports some activity.
[07:41] <lupisak> dan724: and you can imagine how difficult it was to trace the problem to the wireless in the first place!
[07:42] <MGrunde> dan724: Throw the laptop and the router out of the nearest window.  That should fix your problem.
[07:42] <apparle> Hi everyone
[07:43] <MGrunde> I apparle
[07:43] <MGrunde> Hi apparle
[07:43] <dan724> MGrunde: I'm on it, it made a pretty loud noise as im 2 stories up :D
[07:45] <MGrunde> dan724: That's good.  That means your laptop connect to the router.
[07:46] <MGrunde> Okay.  I think I'm signing off for the night.  Good night everyone.
[07:46] <dan724> night MGrunde, thanks
[07:47] <level1> does anybody know how to compile kmplayer with knpplayer support?
[07:49] <apparle> level1: why do you want kmplayer
[07:49] <level1> apparle: its standing between me and flash
[07:50] <level1> apparle: http://mikearthur.co.uk/?p=171
[07:51] <apparle> level1: You have x64?
[07:51] <level1> um... no
[07:52] <level1> thats not the problem
[07:52] <level1> the version that comes with gutsy doesn't have the npp support that I need
[07:52] <level1> I'd have to get the hardy version
[07:53] <level1> but even then I'd have to recompile it
[07:53] <makuseru> what will open a .xls file?
[07:55] <apparle> level1: What is npp support
[07:56] <level1> apparle: something that gives me flash apparently
[07:56] <level1> makuseru: .xls is ms excel format
[07:56] <level1> makuseru: maybe openoffice, koffice, gnumeric, etc
[07:56] <level1> although, only excel will open it correctly
[07:57] <apparle> makuseru: Google it
[07:58] <apparle> I will be back in 2 minutes
[08:02] <Crell42> Ha ha!
[08:15] <blackflag> how can I do a header per site in openoffice?
[08:22] <se7en> blackflag: there should be a openoffice # ask there
[08:22] <se7en> !openoffice
[08:22] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:40]  * ActionParsnip waves
[08:41] <NickPresta> hi, ActionParsnip
[08:42] <anson> how to use wine
[08:42] <NickPresta> !wine | anson
[08:42] <ubotu> anson: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> anson, do some legwork first then ask specific questions and we will help as best we can
[08:43] <anson> how to use wine to play qq2007
[08:43] <anson> 这里不能讲中文吗？
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> qq2007?
[08:44] <NickPresta> anson, japanese or chinese?
[08:44] <anson> the qq of windows
[08:44] <anson> of course chinese
[08:44] <NickPresta> !chinese | anson
[08:44] <ubotu> anson: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:44] <Jucato> don't presume everyone knows what qq is, or that everyone knows chinese :)
[08:45] <jussi01> OK, I have an issue - Im running an ati x1250, with fglrx, but the system is a slug - I can see the redraw easily. Has anyone come across this, and if so a fix?
[08:45] <Jucato> anson: please ask in #winehq about Wine and qq2007 (whatever that is...)
[08:46] <anson> what is winehq
[08:46] <Jucato> it's the channel for Wine support
[08:46] <anson> oh~
[08:47] <anson> the winse support for THis channel is in English?
[08:48] <Jucato> anson: yes. English in here and in #winehq
[08:48] <Jucato> O.o
[08:48] <nixternal> guess who!
[08:48] <nixternal> muhehe
[08:48] <Jucato> lol I should have known :)
[08:48] <NickPresta> hey nixternal
[08:48] <jussi01> !nixternal
[08:48] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[08:48] <nixternal> wasabi all
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, run glxinfo. do you have direct enabling enabled?
[08:48] <nixternal> d'oh
[08:48] <nixternal> to many people know my trick
[08:49] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:49] <Jucato> jussi01: "glxinfo | grep render" says "Yes"?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, just googling ;)
[08:49] <jussi01> Jucato: correct
[08:49] <Jucato> hm...
[08:50]  * Jucato has no idea... goes to stroke his penguin instead..
[08:50] <jussi01> Jucato: !!!
[08:50] <nixternal> heh, sleep time
[08:50] <nixternal> k'nite
[08:50] <Jucato> lol! late sleeper
[08:50] <Jucato> k'nite nixternal! :D
[08:50] <jussi01> nite nixternal
[08:50] <nixternal> hackin' KHelp, lost track of time
[08:51] <nixternal> nixternal->passOut(now);
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, is it the whole screen or just the dragged window?
[08:52] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: the whole screen
[08:52] <dan724> Hi, I am having an issue connecting to a wireless network. I am using a D-Link AP that serves out DHCP addresses. I am using a linksys PCMCIA wireless card that uses bcm43xx linux drivers. The card appears to work fine and appears in iwconfig and ifconfig. I can also see the wireless network and use iwconfig to associate with the ap. What does not work is getting a dhcp address. I use dhclient and it sends out several DHCPOFFERS but ne
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, what refresh rate do you have specified?
[08:53] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: ie, when irc new line comes up, I can watch it as the screen draws it
[08:53] <anson> this channel is for ubunbu or kubuntu?
[08:53] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: 60hz
[08:53] <jussi01> anson: Kubuntu
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, are you running compiz etc?
[08:54] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: no
[08:54] <anson> then what is the channel for ubuntu in English?
[08:54] <jussi01> anson: #ubuntu
[08:55] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: this is my production system at work. I run the basics.
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3558080 may help
[08:57] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: thats a good point, it may be the processor
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, whats it running at
[08:58] <anson> why nobody is in #kubuntu-cn
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, less /proc/cpuinfo
[08:58] <tuxick> maybe "kubuntu" means something rude in chinese ;p
[08:59] <anson> p?
[08:59] <tuxick> nothing, bad joke
[08:59] <jussi01> anson: ubuntu and kubuntu chinese support are combined in #ubuntu-cn
[09:00] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50580/
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, turions kick ass
[09:02] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: cool, but my machine is running like a pentium 1...
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218999 might help
[09:04] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: ahh, im going to go try adding noapic nolapic to the boot options
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, are you running x86 or AMD64 kubuntu?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, have you installed SMP kubuntu for your dual core-ness?
[09:10] <Boruta> hello! if i enable root account i will be able to modify anything like system files?
[09:10] <Boruta> i have disk mounting problems because of windows games crashes
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, yes if you su to the account. I can strongly advise against it and run stuff via kdesu and sudo
[09:11] <ardchoille> Boruta: You can do that with sudo without having to enable the root account
[09:11] <awag22> anyone here use netbeans for java?
[09:11] <Boruta> why its bad idea enable root?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> awag22, not me
[09:11] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: that fixed it ( the nopaic nolapic) woohoo
[09:11] <awag22> :)
[09:11] <ardchoille> !sudo | Boruta Please read the info here
[09:11] <ubotu> Boruta Please read the info here: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:11] <jussi01> !root | Boruta
[09:11] <ubotu> Boruta: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:12] <Boruta> hehehe ok ok thx :D
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, any app you run as root will have root access. If the app is compromised the attacker has full access. If you sudo the admin stuff and execute apps as user the atacker only gains user priveledges
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, its basically a security issue and the main reason why idiot windows users get viri / spyware installed when they run web browsers as admin
[09:14] <Boruta> thx i was guessing its like that now i am sure
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, if you need admin power at command line (apt-get, cp etc) use su, kdesu should be used for apps like kate etc
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, only the one shot app will have power but no others
[09:15] <Boruta> in fstab i have ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:15] <Boruta> if i delete errors it will be ok?
[09:16] <danf_1979> Hi, I'm have just dist-upgraded to hardy and now my desktop is full of icons, one for every directory in /. They are not .desktop files, Desktop contains has no files, but I just "see" the icons when I look at my desktop. Any clues?
[09:16] <awag22> i've never quit understood why doing a kdesu is needed, does it do something special with kde?
[09:16] <awag22> quit = quite
[09:16] <ardchoille> danf_1979: Hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[09:16] <NickPresta> !kdesu | awag22
[09:16] <ubotu> awag22: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-515326.html may help
[09:17] <Boruta> ok thx
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Boruta, np
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> awag22, you can technically use kdesu for everything and forget sudo
[09:19] <tuxick> any cool printing gui thingie for kubuntu?
[09:19] <tuxick> or simply cups?
[09:19] <tuxick> ah i see
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, cups works for me :D
[09:20] <tuxick> ActionParsnip: same here, just wondering
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, let me google a sec
[09:21] <tuxick> naw
[09:23] <tuxick> just wondered if there was some nice kde interface
[09:23] <tuxick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu tells me to follow "System->Administration"
[09:23] <tuxick> but that's not there
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43458
[09:25] <awag22> that article about kdesu claims kate cannot be run with a normal sudo, but i've done sudo kate to edit config files before, and havn't had problems
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, you won't see System -> Administration as those are Gnome menus
[09:26] <ardchoille> awag22: Which article?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> awag22, it can damage permissions on files and profiles. kdesu for gui apps (like kate) sudo for cp, mv, rm etc
[09:26] <awag22> yeah after i read that i understand why it can be bad
[09:27] <awag22> but it was talking like kate can't be run at all with a normal sudo
[09:27] <awag22> ardchoille: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[09:27] <Jucato> awag22: it's not that I *cannot* be done, but that it *shouldn't* be done
[09:27] <awag22> ok
[09:28] <awag22> guess i'll be more careful from now on :)
[09:33] <ardchoille> awag22: You can check to see if there are any root owned files in your $HOME with: find $HOME -user root
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, any good?
[09:40] <michi_> !german
[09:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:48] <kraut> moin
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> kraut, howdy
[09:57] <vint> )
[10:04] <KiZTiaN> NaZz
[10:06] <Lichte> I just installe flash nonfree and firefox can't find it
[10:06] <Lichte> but when I click on the firefox thing to install flash, it says it's already installed
[10:06] <ardchoille> !flashissue | Lichte
[10:06] <ubotu> Lichte: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:07] <Lichte> great
[10:07] <Lichte> thanks ubotu
[10:07] <ardchoille> !thanks | Lichte
[10:07] <ubotu> Lichte: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:08] <Boruta> Lichte: on the window there is a link to manual flash install
[10:08]  * ActionParsnip thinks ardchoille is a puppet master
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:08] <Boruta> it worked for me
[10:08] <se7en> !bash
[10:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:09] <Lichte> crap, I have to join the forums to dl the file
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Lichte, its good to anyway :)
[10:13] <jabbalabba>  Does anyone know how to shut the function off that basket is started with Kontact?
[10:14] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Kontact -> Select Components -> Uncheck Basket?
[10:16] <jabbalabba> unfortunately basket is not listed in there :-(
[10:16] <Jucato> oh.. hm.. I think they sort of made it that way to work around kontact crashing... can't recall the issue
[10:17] <jabbalabba> okay
[10:18] <jerzy> hej
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> naughty asus (of topic) http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/26/asus-eeepc-breaks-gpl
[10:24] <Q-collective> "But it has created a religious problem for Linux purists who insist that everything must be done by the book."
[10:24] <Q-collective> tssk
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> i thinks its interestng
[10:32] <ubuntu> i am on my live cd how do i get my grub back
[10:33] <tzd> I've got 2 issues with Kmail: 1st is that it won't show Swedish characters (åäö) in my received mails (from gmail) and 2nd is that my defined filter filter won't work (based on FROM field, should then move message to appropriate folder). Can anyone help me with this please?
[10:33] <sergey> hello, people!!
[10:35] <sm-pro> \server
[10:36] <se7en> ubuntu you got linux installed? ... to edit your grup go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit the list
[10:36] <voicu> hi, i have some problems with X, i was using a matrox g450 card with the mga driver. i switched to a g550 which doesn't work with mga
[10:36] <ardchoille> !nickspam | sea4ever
[10:36] <ubotu> sea4ever: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[10:36] <jussi01> !grub | ubuntu
[10:36] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:36] <domentarion> do somebody now where i can download themes for konversation ?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> tzd, do you have the language installed (for typing etc)
[10:38] <voicu> did anyone else have problems with mga and a matrox g550?
[10:38] <se7en> !konversation
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <tzd> ActionParsnip: you mean if I am able to write something in Swedish?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> tzd, indeed
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> domentarion, http://www.kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=42 has a small few
[10:40] <tzd> ActionParsnip: yes, it works when i type with Swedish letters. Emailed myself as well and the characters works
[10:40] <voicu> when is kde4 coming out?
[10:41] <tzd> ActionParsnip: the one where it doesnt work is a HTML message
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> voicu, about 2 weeks
[10:42] <tuxick> gah, now adept is silently failing
[10:42] <tuxick> something rather broken in kdesu?
[10:42] <tuxick> prompts for admin pass and then nothing
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> tzd, does the email rally history text show as ok?
[10:43] <voicu> open it in a terminal?
[10:44] <jussi01> !kde4 | voicu
[10:44] <ubotu> voicu: kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[10:44] <tzd> ActionParsnip: hmm, how do i check the email history rally text please?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, does apt / dpkg work ok to install (and apt to update)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> tzd, its the text below (or above) when you hit reply
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> tzd, all the jabber you have had before
[10:45] <tuxick> ActionParsnip: found a clue, it tried to auth against pam_ldap, which fails since it's local user
[10:45] <tuxick> it just doesn't handle this 'exception' at all
[10:46] <tuxick> failing silently is utterly lame
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> tzd, if you can email yourself the characters then its fine. maybe the sender has a misconfigured client and is garbling the text
[10:46] <tuxick> not sure which part is the culprit though
[10:47] <tzd> ActionParsnip: ok. When i tried the reply thing it had a setup of 50/50... the upper part of the email didn't work. got those boxes "[]" instead. The lower part of the email worked though.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> tzd, what client is your email buddy using?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> tzd, i cant really suggest anything as some of it works and if you email yourself then its ok
[10:50] <tzd> ActionParsnip: The one i mentioned I'm not sure about since it's a job hunting service. The other emails which shows the same symptoms are from gmail, hotmail. I imported these from thunderbird yesterday and i noticed it back then but i thought it might have been due to the import.
[10:51] <Roy_M> Hi,
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> tzd, possibly. try tbird again
[10:52] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i just did, it works there :/
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> tzd, tbird is the answer then
[10:53] <jussi01> !hi | Roy_M
[10:53] <ubotu> Roy_M: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:53] <Roy_M> I have a weird problem with kubuntu whereby whichever window the mouse is currently over becomes the active window
[10:54] <tzd> ActionParsnip: i guess it is but I really wanted to use the Kmail, especially now since I've set up almost everything. It can't be any encodings or anything?
[10:54] <Roy_M> I think it cropped up when I was tring to get compiz working but I have since removed compiz and rebooted but the problem still remains
[10:54] <jussi01> Roy_M: system settings - window behaviour - policy
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Roy_M, System->Preferences->Windows, Select windows when the mouse moves over them
[10:55] <Roy_M> jussi01, ActionParsnip: Thanks guys, fixed :)
[10:55] <jussi01> Roy_M: :)
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, how isyour cpu speed?
[10:56] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: excellent :D
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, was it the power thingy?
[10:59] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: it was the noapic nolapic added to the boot options
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, awesome!!!
[10:59] <jussi01> :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> mitgath, do you log onto your system as root?
[11:04] <Roy_M> One more question, does anyone know why translucent windows would not work on my machine. I mainly just want console sessions to be translucent. I am in System settings - window behaviour and have clicked " Use translucency/shadows"
[11:05] <ardchoille> Roy_M: In konsole?
[11:05] <Roy_M> ardchoille: yep
[11:05] <ardchoille> Roy_M: In konsole > Settings > Schema > transparent*
[11:07] <kubu>  hi all.. i have a question.. is ther any app that allows me to show captured data in a web browser.  or let me put it another way.. can i on my router watch what my clien(s) are surfing with a web ineterface,? i know tcpdump can capture data from a interface.. but i would like to get it in a browser.. so its like i can see what they are doing.
[11:07] <kubu> sry for my bad english
[11:08] <kubu> do you understand my question?
[11:08] <Roy_M> ardchoille: is there any way to do this so that I can seetext documents behind it rather than just the background? Also is there any way to make it happen for every session automatically?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kubu, you would need to run a pc as your router and audit from there. Depends on what your router can do. Some remember the last few websites viewed
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kubu, you'll have to rtfm on your router
[11:09] <ardchoille> Roy_M: Not sure about the "true transparency" (ie seeing windows behind konsole) but you can choose a schema and then Settings > Save as default  to have it set for future sessions
[11:09] <Roy_M> ardchoille: thanks :)
[11:09] <ardchoille> yw
[11:11] <kubu> ardchoille.? the clients go trough the router with masquerading. "iptables"
[11:12] <ardchoille> kubu: Was that meant for ActionParsnip ?
[11:12] <kubu> ops.. yes
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kubu, i think there is a logging option someplace
[11:13] <kubu> ActionParsnip im talking about realtime streaming. if you know what i mean.
[11:13] <ardchoille> kubu: Many routers have a utility like "web activity log" or some such
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> kubu, id read your routers manual
[11:14] <kubu> ActionParsnip my router is a linux box
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> kubu, cool. if you are using iptables there is logging on that
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> kubu, have you googled?
[11:16] <kubu> yes..
[11:16] <kubu> i get nothing.. and i have no idea what keywords to use.
[11:16] <kubu> i did google all last night
[11:17] <kubu> but if you say iptables can do it.. i need to check it out
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> kubu, https://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=503504
[11:18] <kubu> ok let me read that.. thabk you
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> np kubu
[11:27] <mahasamoot> I'm trying to get firefox to use kde dialogs, some one gave me a link to a howto... but I lost it.... now I've been googling but I can't find it again.
[11:28] <fabio> Hi
[11:37] <mahasamoot> Jucato: you gave me a link to a howto, for getting KDE dialogs in firefox, but I've lost it, and I can't find it w/ google... (I was using my wife account at the time.. )  could you give it to me again plz :-)
[11:37] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:48] <yao_ziyua1> man,
[11:48] <yao_ziyua1> this is the problem:
[11:48] <yao_ziyua1> when doing a Full Upgrade in Kubuntu 7.10,
[11:48] <yao_ziyua1> all upgradeable packages are downloaded successfully,
[11:49] <yao_ziyua1> but when it comes to installing "qt3-mt",
[11:49] <yao_ziyua1> Adept-Manager says "an error occurred"
[11:49] <yao_ziyua1> and system ruined
[11:49] <yao_ziyua1> now i reverted to a previous good snapshot in vmware
[11:50] <jussi01> yao_ziyua1: did you udate before the upgrade? have you turned any non ubuntu repositories off?
[11:50] <yao_ziyua1> i did Fetch Updates
[11:51] <yao_ziyua1> my Third-Party Software list is:
[11:52] <yao_ziyua1> http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus lazarus-stable universe
[11:52] <yao_ziyua1> http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus lazarus-testing universe
[11:52] <jussi01> yao_ziyua1: remove any third party repos.
[11:52] <yao_ziyua1> cdrom: [Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)]/ gutsy ...
[11:52] <yao_ziyua1> only these 3 are checked
[11:53] <yao_ziyua1> i don't think the failure to install an updated qt3-mt is due to these 3rd party sources
[11:53] <jussi01> yao_ziyua1: what are thos freepascal ones?
[11:53] <yao_ziyua1> these are the sources to install Lazarus
[11:54] <yao_ziyua1> i also tried without them
[11:54] <yao_ziyua1> so they're definitely not the cause
[11:55] <Boruta> Record 5 has no FILE magic: Input/output error
[11:55] <Boruta> Failed to mount '/dev/hdd1': Input/output error
[11:55] <Boruta> NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a
[11:55] <Boruta> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[11:55] <Boruta> then reboot into Windows TWICE. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[11:55] <Boruta> important! If you have SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first you must activate
[11:55] <Boruta> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
[11:55] <Boruta> /dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
[11:55] <Boruta> for the details.
[11:55] <Boruta> help! i have no windows
[11:55] <jussi01> !paste | Boruta
[11:55] <ubotu> Boruta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:56] <yao_ziyua1> i even tried two different download servers
[11:56] <yao_ziyua1> one is cn.ubuntu.org
[11:56] <yao_ziyua1> the other is mirror.pacific.net.au
[11:56] <Boruta> ok sorry
[11:56] <jussi01> Boruta: you are trying to mount an ntfs drive?
[11:56] <awag22> !kde4
[11:56] <ubotu> kde4 is KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://tinyurl.com/2gqwmr - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[11:57] <jussi01> !botabuse > awag22
[11:58] <Boruta> yes
[11:58] <Boruta> ntfs drive
[11:58] <jussi01> Boruta: did you follow the instructions there?
[11:58] <Boruta> a game crashed and drive is out
[11:59] <Boruta> i cant go to windows and checkdisk and stuff i havent windows
[11:59] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:59] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:59] <jussi01> Boruta: ie. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows TWICE
[11:59] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:59] <anaya> This is a new proyect
[11:59] <anaya> enter please
[11:59] <anaya> helpme please
[11:59] <anaya> tanks
[12:00] <jussi01> anaya: please dont spam or you will be removed
[12:00] <anaya> killeranaya@gmail.com
[12:00] <anaya> o no is spam
[12:00] <anaya> is a my proyect in GNU/Linux
[12:00] <anaya> am sorry,, and tanks
[12:00] <jussi01> anaya: posting it into a support channel over and over is spam. Please dont
[12:01] <jussi01> !guidelines > anaya
[12:02] <Boruta> and if i format this drive as linux partition i will be able install windows programs under wine?
[12:02] <jussi01> Boruta: yes
[12:02] <Boruta> ok thx
[12:04] <anaya> tanks and sorry
[12:04] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org enter please
[12:08] <awag22> wtf
[12:09] <siddharth> hiiii
 o no is spam <--- haha
[12:09] <awag22> that makes me laugh
[12:09] <awag22> hi siddharth
[12:09] <siddharth> hi
[12:09] <jussi01> siddharth: Can we help you?
[12:09] <siddharth> yes
[12:10] <siddharth> plz tell me how can i register my nicname
[12:10] <sub[t]rnl> !register | siddharth
[12:10] <ubotu> siddharth: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[12:11] <awag22> jussi01: sorry about the misuse of the bot a second ago
[12:11] <siddharth> thnx
[12:11] <jussi01> awag22: you understood what I sent it to you for?
[12:12] <awag22> for the kde4 thing I did right?
[12:12] <awag22> like 5 minutes ago
[12:12] <jussi01> awag22: yeah, you should do those in private with the bot ;)
[12:12] <jussi01> but all is well :)
[12:12] <awag22> k :)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[12:19] <sub[t]rnl> yo ActionParsnip
[12:19] <ubuntu_> hay
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> work is boring :( ive done nothing for 4 hours :(
[12:20] <sub[t]rnl> hehe, yeah I catch up on sleep at work.  Put that company time to use
[12:20] <awag22> where do you work?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> yeah ive brought my ccna stuff over
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> big hr company in the states. I server watch while the onsite guys sleep
[12:23] <awag22> ah, yeah i was wondering if you were in europe somewhere or something, so early and you said you've been doing nothing for 4 hours
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> yeah i do 7am to 3pm which is 2am to 10am EST (servers are in Miami and Atlanta)
[12:24] <awag22> what does server watching consist of exactly?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> we have a program called altiris that emails me when servers die so i get them up and see why. usually its a network glitch
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> then theres the odd thing i manually check like citrix resources
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> but otherwise its a lot of sitting
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> and why i come on here
[12:26] <awag22> hehe
[12:26] <yao_ziyua1> i would strongly suggest that this linux distro include a system restore feature
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> no ones shouted offtopic yet
[12:26] <yao_ziyua1> like vmware's snapshot creation and restoration
[12:27] <awag22> yeah :)
[12:27] <yao_ziyua1> saving the current memory+disk state
[12:27] <yao_ziyua1> and restoring at a later time
[12:27] <agala> frak vmware
[12:27] <yao_ziyua1> this is definitely helpful for newbies who always make deadly mistakes
[12:28] <tuxick> suppose i don't want to fiddle around with groups to give users access to sound, what's the 'normal' (k)ubuntu way?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyua1, true indeed
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyua1, just remember to research first and backup config files before you modify them
[12:28] <carwash^> tuxick: if you add users in a "kubuntu"-way they should already be in the audio group
[12:28] <awag22> does normal ubuntu have a system restore feature?
[12:28] <yao_ziyua1> not just config files
[12:29] <tuxick> carwash^: well, in this case they're ldap users
[12:29] <tuxick> which makes it a bit of a hassle
[12:29] <carwash^> aah, then i don'tknow. I usually do the "addgroup group user", or is it the other way around?
[12:29] <tuxick> whatever works :)
[12:29] <yao_ziyua1> config files, all system files,
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[12:30] <tuxick> i was just wondering if chmod was too crude
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyua1, only what you manually change. xorg.conf is a classic example
[12:30] <yao_ziyua1> especially when some system files are updated while others encounter problems updating
[12:30] <tuxick> ActionParsnip: i know how linux basics work :)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, user changes are universal as far as i know
[12:31] <yao_ziyua1> ActionParsnip: i never manually change a config file unless there is explicit instructions :)
[12:31] <carwash^> typically to do a system snapshot, back up you ~/ and /etc and your packagelist and you have everything you need
[12:31] <tuxick> well these users auth against ldap
[12:31] <tuxick> and i don't want to mess that bit up
[12:31] <tuxick> i'll simply chmod
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyua1, when you do stil backup so you can copy it back if its not right
[12:32] <yao_ziyua1> carwash^: could also be about bin/, usr/bin
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> tuxick, easiest way
[12:32] <carwash^> tuxick: sounds like noe the best way to do it, not that i could really help you finding a better solution :/
[12:32] <giuseppe> hi, I'm able to access using LAN network from linux to windows, but not viceversa, ehy?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !samba giuseppe
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba giuseppe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !smb | giuseppe
[12:32] <ubotu> giuseppe: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:32] <carwash^> yao_ziyua1: you should never manually change files there, thus installing the same packages as before should fix it
[12:32] <yao_ziyua1> e.g. the user is recompiling kernel binaries and an error occurs halfway
[12:33] <carwash^> the reason for backing up your home is that all your personal settings are stored there
[12:33] <carwash^> (and of course your files)
[12:33] <giuseppe> ActionParsnip: sorry, but system setting tell me samba not installed...
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, konqueror has a groovy folder sharing thingy
[12:34] <giuseppe> ActionParsnip: it can be that without samba server installed I'm able to see windows PC and not viceversa?
[12:34] <tuxick> of course
[12:34] <awag22> giuseppe: sudo apt-get install samba
[12:35] <awag22> wait, isn't samba automatically installed with the default kubuntu install?
[12:35] <giuseppe> awag22: not installed
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, if you load konqueror and right click on a folder to share, it will install whatever you need automatically
[12:37] <giuseppe> awag22: my question is this: if samba server is not installed it can be that I'm abe to access to a windows pc from my linux pc?
[12:37] <tuxick> of course
[12:37] <awag22> apparently yes
[12:37] <tuxick> 'server', should be clear enough
[12:37] <awag22> :)
[12:37] <tuxick> aka "not client"
[12:38] <neville> How come the fonts for certain programs (ie XMMS, Amsn) are all squashed up and distorted?
[12:38] <neville> Like, what can cause that problem, and how would I fix it?
[12:39] <giuseppe> tuxick: well, So samba server is ony necessary to access from wondows to linux?
[12:39] <tuxick> for example
[12:39] <awag22> giuseppe: yes, you need to run the server on your linux machine, so windows thinks that it is another windows machine, more or less
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, try konqueror it does it for you like windows shares
[12:39] <tuxick> neville: prolly gtk apps or worse :)
[12:40] <giuseppe> ActionParsnip: ok, I'm installing samba and try from windows to linux
[12:40] <jussi01> !samba | giuseppe
[12:40] <ubotu> giuseppe: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:40] <Cem_UNAL> hi folk
[12:41] <awag22> hi
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe, no, run konqueror, right click folder to share and go from there
[12:42] <neville> Or worse?
[12:42] <tuxick> rright, as i expected, chmod on /dev/audio doesn't work
[12:42] <tuxick> udev or whatever 'fixes' it again
[12:42]  * tuxick bets on udev anyway
[12:44] <Cem_UNAL> can somebody send me default kubuntu kicker backgraund ?
[12:45] <ardchoille> Cem_UNAL: /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png  ?
[12:46] <Cem_UNAL> ardchoille yes can u send it my gmail : ogrenci.debian@gmail.com please?
[12:47] <ardchoille> Cem_UNAL: Will this work? : http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7341/kubuntupaneluc5.png
[12:48] <Cem_UNAL> ardchoille tx && bye
[12:48] <ardchoille> yw
[12:59] <giuseppe> tuxick: we, now windows see my kubuntu pc... but it requires a password...
[12:59] <giuseppe> tuxick: do u know why?
[13:00] <tuxick> giuseppe: because that's your samba config :)
[13:00] <tuxick> dunno how that's set up on kubuntu
[13:01] <tuxick> i'm not so much of a gui person myself
[13:01] <tuxick> i guess you could try whatever admin user you have there
[13:01] <giuseppe> tuxick: well, I see... so I will search on samba set up
[13:01] <agala> devi cambiare il security level giusè ;)
[13:02] <jussi01> !en | agala
[13:02] <ubotu> agala: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[13:02] <agala> ok
[13:03] <jussi01> agala: was that italian?
[13:03] <agala> don't be hangry for that
[13:03] <agala> yes
[13:03] <jussi01> !it | agala
[13:03] <ubotu> agala: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:03] <agala> understood
[13:03] <jussi01> :)
[13:04] <agala> fracking arcaic language it
[13:04] <giuseppe> agala: thanks...
[13:04] <jussi01> agala: can we help you?
[13:04] <agala> I don't go in italòian room cause I already had a period with IRC, i was almost slave ;)
[13:04] <agala> no more work
[13:05] <agala> btw is there anyone here very skilled on v4l plz?
[13:06] <agala> i WENT in room #v4l
[13:06] <agala> ops
[13:16] <romunov> i'm looking for a shell acount for irc... any tips?
[13:36] <bulle_> bonjour à tous !
[13:43] <agala> speak fr is allowed?
[13:43] <agala> interesting
[13:47] <lfsr> test
[13:48] <Dr_willis> 2+2=?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:01] <Dr_willis> !find userful
[14:01] <ubotu> File userful found in desktop-multiplier
[14:03] <Dr_willis> !info desktop-multiplier
[14:03] <ubotu> desktop-multiplier: Userful's Virtualized X-Server (Trial Version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.0-13-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 31804 kB, installed size 80892 kB (Only available for i386)
[14:16] <noaXess> if i open an appligation, eg. the adept manager the text size is bigger then my default kde systemwide text size.. any ida to handle this?
[14:18] <tuxick> "simply chmod" audio devices in kubuntu = forget it
[14:18] <tuxick> only /dev/audio is mentioned in udev config
[14:18] <tuxick> the rest is automagic i can't trace back
[14:21] <JeffATL> does the kubuntu desktop livecd have a full set of SCSI and RAID drivers?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm i imagine it does.
[14:22] <Dr_willis> of ourse theres may be some that are not in the default  kernels.
[14:22] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  if an app is being ran as root. then it will be using the root users theme/font/whatever settings.. but ive never seen adept do that.
[14:23] <JeffATL> Dr_willis: i'm needing to have someone remote put a server "up on blocks" for me so i can back up its entire FS, and the gentoo livecd (which is what i usually use) is having problems booting (have tried all kinds of boot params)
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:25] <Dr_willis> JeffATL,  interesting.   theres a url/list of official hardware supported i think. But im not sure how accurate it is. or how detailed it is.
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !hardware
[14:25] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:25] <JeffATL> Dr_willis: i'm not worried if the kubuntu livecd doesn't automatically bring up SCSI/RAID as long as i can modprobe the right modules and bring the raid volumes up
[14:26] <jussi01> !raid | JeffATL
[14:26] <ubotu> JeffATL: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[14:26] <Dr_willis> you know what modules you need? i can see if they are on my system.
[14:26] <Dr_willis> Sign of a True Linux Addict - haveing needed module names memorized for each machine they own.. :)
[14:29] <romunov> how can i set up ssh access to my own machine, so i can operate it from a distance?
[14:31] <ardchoille> !ssh | romunov
[14:31] <ubotu> romunov: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[14:31] <carwash^> romunov: apt-get install openssh-server
[14:31] <jussi01> romunov: sudo apt-get install ssh
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> or just run sshd
[14:32] <jussi01> romunov: that command will get all the ssh stuff you need
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> n install necessary to my knowledge
[14:32] <ardchoille> !nickspam > f0x10
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !sshd
[14:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:32] <anson> what is the channel for xine?
[14:33] <jussi01> !channels | anson
[14:33] <ubotu> anson: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[14:33] <Dr_willis> !find ssh
[14:33] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server, ssh, ssh-askpass-gnome, aolserver4-nssha1 (and 28 others)
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> romunov, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/openssh-server
[14:33] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: edgy?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/openssh-server
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, its what gogle gave me
[14:34] <Ze_M> anyone using kde-3.5.8?
[14:35] <jussi01> !anyone | Ze_M
[14:35] <ubotu> Ze_M: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:35] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Gutsy users. What do you need help with?
[14:36] <Ze_M> can anyone check in kcontrol in tab System Administration-> Login Manager when entering to root mode, if after entering password kcontrol hangs
[14:37] <neville> You know, that happens to me on my Pentium 3 on occasions, but resetting X sorts it out
[14:37] <Ze_M> ardchoille: can you check it?
[14:37] <anson> what is the channel for xine?
[14:38] <Dr_willis> ive seen others in here with issues with the various kde control center tools not going into admin mode correctly
[14:38] <neville> #xine ?
[14:38] <Dr_willis> you could run 'kdesu kcontrol' i guess as a work around
[14:38] <anson> NO~
[14:38] <neville> babo~
[14:38] <jussi01> anson: did you look at the link the bot gave you earlier?
[14:39] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Sure, hold on..
[14:39] <eagles051387> is the flash plugin still broken
[14:39] <gsnsr> Ubuntu recognised my wireless, but I can't turn it on, it's working normally in windows, can u help me?
[14:39] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Nope, works fine here.
[14:39] <jussi01> !flash > eagles051387
[14:40] <Ze_M> ardchoille: after entering the password doesnt hang?
[14:40] <jussi01> eagles051387: /topic ;)
[14:40] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Nope. Try launching kcontrol from a terminal and see if there's anyting output: kdesu kcontrol
[14:41] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Hmm, not sure if that's going to help since you will be in kdesu mode to begin with.
[14:42] <ardchoille> Ze_M: Try launching kcontrol as your user (ie no kdesu) and see.
[14:47] <romunov> ActionParsnip: that's what i installed
[14:47] <eagles051387> thanks jussi01
[14:47] <romunov> ActionParsnip: i'm fiddling around with /etc/hosts.allow/deny
[14:47] <eagles051387> !gnash
[14:47] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[14:47] <eagles051387> does gnash integrate rather nicely with firefox
[14:48] <carwash^> gnash has a tendency to crash with 100% cpu usage
[14:48] <carwash^> not recommended (yet)
[14:48] <ardchoille> romunov: /etc/hosts.allow is a file, not a directory. Did you create /etc/hosts.allow/deny ?
[14:50] <eagles051387> hummm
[14:52] <romunov> ardchoille: i never said it's a directory
[14:52] <romunov> ardchoille: i'm editing the files..
[14:52] <ardchoille> romunov: Oh, sorry, /etc/hosts.allow/deny looks like a dir path
[14:53] <romunov> ardchoille: np ^_^
[14:54] <dhq> i am on the live cd connected via modem i can log on irc etc but none of my web pages are opening
[14:54] <romunov> hum, for some reason, i can't access through my ip... only through localhost. i've enabled port forwarding... weird
[14:54] <dhq> some thing wrong with my dns i guess how do i get it
[14:56] <dhq> help me oout fdoving
[15:02] <m_> ?
[15:09] <romunov> hum, i still can't login via my ip - only @localhost
[15:10] <romunov> i've forwarded the port on my router
[15:12] <tekstacy> morning all
[15:13] <tekstacy> Can I use k3b to back up my xp install dvds?
[15:13] <carwash^> tekstacy: how do you want to back it up? like a restore image?
[15:14] <carwash^> or just back up your userfiles?
[15:14] <tekstacy> just make a duplicate install dvd
[15:14] <ubuntu> hi
[15:15] <ubuntu> I have formatted a reiserfs partition to an ext3 partition. Is there anyway to recover some info? I mean, I would like if possible, to recover some stuff I had in reiserfs
[15:15] <ubuntu> is it possible_
[15:15] <ubuntu> ?
[15:17] <tuxick> ubuntu: my guess would be "don't waste too much time trying"
[15:17] <tuxick> but i'm not sure how much reiser trashes
[15:17] <noaXess> Dr_willis: back now..
[15:18] <noaXess> have you anyidea about my font size changing if i run eg. the adept manager?
[15:20] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  not really unless you are runningit withkdesu.
[15:21] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  if an app is ran as root, it will use the root users font settings (and other settings) normally
[15:22] <noaXess> Dr_willis: i run the adept manager us normal user.. but need to input my password to run it..
[15:22] <Dr_willis> I cant stand adept. so  i never use it. :)
[15:22] <Dr_willis> It may be switching to root as soon as it runs.
[15:23] <noaXess> Dr_willis: ok.. i will check it later..
[15:23] <Dr_willis> try running kcontrol as root. setting some font/other settings.. and see if adept changes  with it.. (you will need to close/restrt adept)
[15:27] <tekstacy> any idea how I could back up my xp install dvd? k3b doesn't seem to be able to read it.
[15:29] <basy> I want to start my Matrix3D screen saver (It is allready installed and I can see and preview it with: KDesktop settings -> Screensaver), problem is that xscreensaver start diffrent one... I want kscreensaver to start it, no xscreensaver, any ideas, plz?
[15:32] <adon> .........
[15:32] <basy> after unistall xscreensaver, nothing happend after my setted time (1minute), kscreensaver don't start any screensaver
[15:32] <adon> my kubuntu was crash :(
[15:32] <basy> :(
[15:33] <adon> but now it repaired?
[15:34] <adon> hello
[15:34] <adon> anybody here>?
[15:34] <rothchild> hello adon do you have a question?
[15:34] <adon> yup :)
[15:35] <romunov> go ahead, ask it
[15:35] <romunov> we can't tell what you're thinking
[15:35] <adon> but i can't speak fluently :(
[15:35] <adon> but i can't speak english fluently :(
[15:36] <rothchild> where are you from adon?
[15:36] <adon> i 'm from indonesia
[15:36] <adon> did you hear about indonesia?
[15:37] <romunov> anything in particular?
[15:37] <adon> Bali Maybe?
[15:37] <romunov> i have heard of bali
[15:37] <romunov> what is your question?
[15:38] <adon> oh i forgot it..
[15:38] <adon> i will be back soon..
[15:38] <adon> thx for any apreciate :)
[15:51] <noaXess> is there any global setting in kde to remember the last window size for each window?
[15:53] <phoenixz> I have been experimenting yesterday with my xorg.conf, and after returning the original backup in place, I cant get the screen resolution correct anymore.. should be 1280x800 but its at 1280x1024.. Im using the original xorg.conf file though! How can I fix this?
[15:53] <ardchoille> noaXess: Usually, it's each individual app that takes care of those settings
[15:54] <noaXess> ardchoille: you mean no .. i need to set eg. the windows position for each window..
[15:54] <clintc> My kontact email layout settings are stuck... I can't get the message preview pane to appear next to the message list.. it always shows below... anyone know a fix?
[15:55] <eagles051387> !samba
[15:55] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:56] <ardchoille> noaXess: Usually, you launch an app, set the window to suite you and when you exit the app, the app saves the window width/height along with any other required settings.
[15:56] <MGalaxy> PLZ suggest me a good Audio/Video Converter
[15:57] <pag> MGalaxy, soundkonverter is great for audio
[15:57] <MGalaxy> pag: what about Video?
[15:57] <ardchoille> clintc: Have you set this in the Appearance > Layout tab of the kmail configuration dialog?
[15:57] <pag> MGalaxy, mencoder does the job (but afaik it's not easy-to-use)
[15:58] <eagles051387> what streaming media options r there
[15:58] <clintc> ardchoille: yes, it ignores the setting "show message preview pane next to message list"
[15:58] <clintc> and shows it below
[15:59] <ardchoille> clintc: Ok, dumb question but I need to ask, did you click "Apply" and tryied restarting kmail/kontact?
[16:00] <clintc> ardchoille: clicking apply makes the windows redraw but does not fix it.. restarting does not fix it
[16:01] <ardchoille> clintc: Ok, I asked because that setting works fine here, so it's not a bug with kmail
[16:02] <clintc> ardchoille: do not show.. then apply - works, show below message list then apply -works, show next to message pane then apply - stays below
[16:02] <phoenixz> Does anybody know why my monitor resolution suddenly is different??
[16:02] <phoenixz> I have been experimenting yesterday with my xorg.conf, and after returning the original backup in place, I cant get the screen resolution correct anymore.. should be 1280x800 but its at 1280x1024.. Im using the original xorg.conf file though! How can I fix this?
[16:02] <ardchoille> clintc: Have you tried running kmail on its own (ie not in kontact) and seeing if that setting works?
[16:02] <clintc> ardchoille: will try....
[16:03] <eagles051387> !dbmix
[16:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbmix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <eagles051387> !tablet pc
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet pc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <eagles051387> !tablet
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <ardchoille> !msgthebot | eagles051387
[16:04] <ubotu> eagles051387: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:05] <JuJuBee> Anybody know if there is a way to create a shortcut key combination for a special character so I don't have to keep going to that menu to insert the char?
[16:05] <ardchoille> clintc: fyi, that setting works here in kontact as well as kmail stand alone.
[16:06] <eagles051387> sry ard. im considering the option of duel booting with my tablet pc
[16:06] <eagles051387> does kubuntu support tablet pcs
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> eagles051387: sure
[16:06] <clintc> ardchoille: behavior here is the same, message pane goes below :( -
[16:06] <eagles051387> do i have to do any fiddling with tablet stuff like touch screen and what not
[16:07] <ardchoille> eagles051387: Are you on Gutsy?
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> you may.
[16:07] <eagles051387> ardchoille: on my desktop
[16:07] <clintc> ardchoille: yep
[16:07] <eagles051387> ardchoille: i just got my laptop i need to rebackup all my data to dvds
[16:09] <Sfan00> Hello
[16:09] <Sfan00> Minor problem
[16:09] <Sfan00> that seems to have developed into a H/W one
[16:09] <Sfan00> How can Kubuntu nuke a bios?
[16:09] <Sfan00> Becuase on trying to install Kubuntu on a machine, I got a kernel Panic error..
[16:09] <clintc> ardchoille: and the sad thing is this just started today when I played with the show message structure settings
[16:09] <Sfan00> Subsuqeunet to that the machine concerned refuses to boot at all
[16:10] <clintc> on a 22' widescreen monitor!
[16:10] <Sfan00> I can't even get a video signal out of it
[16:10] <Sfan00> Any ideas?
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: it really can't....
[16:10] <Sfan00> Or do you know of a hardware hackers channel?
[16:10] <faissal> hi there
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: does the liveCD work?
[16:10] <Sfan00> It didn't
[16:10] <Sfan00> And I can't burn CD's
[16:10] <clintc> ardchoille: one other thing... checking show message size does not work either
[16:11] <Sfan00> I am suspecting Hardware failure
[16:11] <Sfan00> because a kernel panic is serious
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: did you try restting the CMOS?
[16:11] <Sfan00> How?
[16:11] <Sfan00> I tried loading failsafe settings
[16:11] <Sfan00> and the machine still refused to behave
[16:11] <Sfan00> and as I said
[16:11] <neville> The jumper on the motherboard?
[16:11] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: wait... you can boot an OS?
[16:11] <Sfan00> it NOW won't boot at all
[16:12] <Sfan00> I can't get ANYTHING
[16:12] <Sfan00> Not even video
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> yeah....clear the CMOS.
[16:12] <Sfan00> All the machine does is Beep at me
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> its a jumper on your MB.
[16:13] <faissal> i just installed kubuntu 7.10. i got an external usb drive with an ntfs partition that i want to access. when i plug the drive in the usb port, dolphin pops up, a window is displayed but instead of seeing data, i dont see anything but a message saying: cannot obtain lock on /media/.hal-tab.  can someone please help me ?
[16:13] <Sfan00> I'd prefer not do that unless essential
[16:13] <Sfan00> Anyone here famialr with Gigabyte MB's?
[16:13] <neville> Erm
[16:13] <nosrednaekim> faissal: run "sudo rm /media/.hal-tab"
[16:13] <neville> I have two Pentium 3 ones :)
[16:13] <Dr_willis> The way its beeping can be giving you an error message
[16:14] <ardchoille> clintc: Not sure if it will help, but here are my settings which seem to work: http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4746/kmailzv3.png
[16:14] <Sfan00> I get 2 beeps
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: its not going to mess anything up.
[16:14] <faissal> ok nosrednaekim
[16:14] <Sfan00> but can't find anything to say what those 2 beeps mean
[16:14] <Sfan00> What do 2 beeps mean? RAM failure?
[16:14] <faissal> nosrednaekim: i get an input output error
[16:14] <neville> If you can't find the jumper, just remove the battery and cut the power to the machine for about 5 minutes, and if the beeps remain, chase them down
[16:14] <Sfan00> Beacause I've replaced the video card
[16:15] <Sfan00> wiht a known unit
[16:15] <Sfan00> the RAM is untouched
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> faissal: unplug your usb drive
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> and run it again
[16:15] <faissal> ok nosrednaekim
[16:15] <Sfan00> Suggestions as I would prefer NOT to nuke the CMOS unless I have to
[16:15] <faissal> nosrednaekim:  i get the same error
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> faissal: hmm, thats weird, never seen that error before
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> !hal-tab
[16:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal-tab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:16] <faissal> hmmm ok nosrednaekim..... pretty wierd i find too
[16:17] <nosrednaekim> faissal: try rebooting and trying again.... i'll look around google
[16:17] <clintc> ardchoille: thank you for the help... some combination of setting fiddling has brought it back to the side... not exactly sure... but it seems some setting may not be compatible with having the preview pane to the side
[16:17] <tzd> Sfan00: have you replaced anything recently?
[16:17] <clintc> thanks again for the help
[16:17] <faissal> ok thx nosrednaekim brb in 2 minutes
[16:17] <Sfan00> tzd: No
[16:17] <Sfan00> Only the video card
[16:17] <Sfan00> And the beep code doesn't sound like a Video card error
[16:18] <tzd> Sfan00: ok and when you replaced the gfx card did it beep 2 times immediately?
[16:18] <ardchoille> clintc: yw
[16:18] <Sfan00> Yes
[16:18] <Sfan00> after some delay in starting up
[16:19] <tzd> Sfan00: have you tried with your old gfx card after that?
[16:19] <Sfan00> It was beeping two time prior to replacment of the card
[16:19] <Sfan00> Yes
[16:19] <Sfan00> I have tried with - Old card , new card and no card ...
[16:19] <tzd> Sfan00: oh, so it actually beeped twice before you even replaced the gfx card?
[16:19] <Sfan00> It still BEEPS at me
[16:19] <Sfan00> tzd : yes
[16:19] <Sfan00> It beeped twice
[16:19] <serenity> hi
[16:19] <Sfan00> I then thought - Maybe it's a Video card issue
[16:19] <bazhang> hi
[16:20] <Sfan00> So I replaced the video card
[16:20] <serenity> do i need swap memory on a system with 2gb RAM?
[16:20] <tzd> Sfan00: ok. Have you tried with resetting bios to default?
[16:20] <Sfan00> If I could get a video screen to do that... I would
[16:20] <faissal> yop im back
[16:20] <bazhang> serenity: many will suggest yes
[16:20] <NickPresta> serenity, probably not, but it's best to have _some_ just in case. 2GB won't stop your system from ever needing swap.
[16:20] <faissal> nosrednaekim: here i am
[16:20] <nosrednaekim> faissal: working now?
[16:20] <tzd> Sfan00: oh so you cant even get there... hmm..
[16:20] <faissal> nosrednaekim:  nope
[16:20] <Sfan00> tzd; RAM Failure?
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> faissal: very odd, I can't find anything on google either.
[16:21] <serenity> NickPresta: how much will be a good value? 500mb?
[16:21] <tzd> Sfan00: def. sounds like it...
[16:21] <faissal> but i do not get the input output error now nosrednaekim
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> so you erased that file?
[16:21] <faissal> it just says there is no such file or directory
[16:21] <tzd> Sfan00: if i can remember correctly i think 2 beep used to be RAM on XX computers at least
[16:21] <faissal> i guess so
[16:22] <faissal> can you please help me mount my usb drive ?
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> faissal: ah ok.... so when you open up that drive in dolphin, what does it say?
[16:22] <NickPresta> 512 is probably sufficient. It depends on what you're doing really. I can easily dip into my swap (I have 2GB of RAM) when working with The GIMP or working with audio.
[16:22] <tzd> Sfan00: the best way to find out is to remove different components until it works again
[16:22] <faissal> i dont see the drive in /media
[16:22] <faissal> nosrednaekim:
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[16:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[16:22] <serenity> ok tanks
[16:22] <tzd> Sfan00: and the ram is most likely the best place to start... don't think you'll need to replace gfx since that didn't help you before
[16:22] <serenity> +h
[16:23] <bazhang> haha
[16:23] <faissal> nosrednaekim: do you think its better to edit fstab directly or is it better to use System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem ???
[16:23] <Sfan00> tzd : OK
[16:23] <Sfan00> Thanks
[16:24] <Lagarto> hola
[16:24] <bazhang> hi
[16:24] <Lagarto> como me paso de sala
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> faissal: easier to use the GUI
[16:24] <nosrednaekim> !es
[16:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:24] <tzd> Sfan00: good luck finding the evil beeper ;)
[16:24] <faissal> nosrednaekim: fine ok i will give it a try
[16:24] <faissal> nosrednaekim: brb
[16:24] <Sfan00> If it's the main board thats gone it's expensive :(
[16:24] <Lagarto> #mardelplata
[16:24] <Sfan00> If it's the ram - less so
[16:24] <kim_> adept is crased can i get the fix code
[16:24] <Lagarto> # mardelplata
[16:25] <Dr_willis> !adeptfix
[16:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:25] <Lagarto> como hago?ç
[16:25]  * Dr_willis is wired.. second cup of coffee today and its not even noon....:)
[16:25] <tzd> Sfan00: yeah, everyone wants to avoid MB... that's just ul if that's the case.... should be your last resort as well though.
[16:25] <faissal> the mount point /media/sdg1 is already occupied nosrednaekim when i plug my usb drive in
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> faissal: thats good.... go there in dolphin.
[16:26] <Sfan00> BTW Any reason why a Kernel Panic would occur when trying to run a machine at 133Mhz - The Kernel panic said something about sync issues
[16:26] <TimS> I just installed a new hard drive, Sata port 3 I think, I how can I find out what it is under /dev/?
[16:26] <tzd> Can anyone help with setting up an easy Kmail filter please? I would like mail from X to be sorted into folder X on arrival.
[16:26] <Sfan00> Thinks have I inadvertently tried to drive 100 Ram at 133 and fried them?
[16:26] <Dr_willis> TimS,  dmesg, or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[16:26] <TimS> I need to know its name befefore I can fdisk it
[16:26] <Dr_willis> fdisk -l  scans/shows all seen disks
[16:26] <faissal> nosrednaekim: there i am
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> faissal: working?
[16:27] <Sfan00> The RAM itself says 256MB 266Mhz Cl2.5 which was what was set in BIOS
[16:27] <faissal> nosrednaekim: THANKS A LOT
[16:27] <faissal> nosrednaekim: IT WORX
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> I didn't do a thing...
[16:27] <faissal> ;)
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> sometimes hal just gets screwed up.
[16:28] <Sfan00> Shall I assume RAM's busted and throw out the ram DIMM's?
[16:28] <Sfan00> and Buy new RAM?
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> Sfan00: don'ttrow them out til you know for sure...
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> see if you can borrow some ram from someone else
[16:28] <Sfan00> becaue I don't want to wreck 'new' ram if the main board's busted
[16:28] <Sfan00> LOL
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> then stick the "bad ram" in some else's computer and see if it works
[16:29] <Sfan00> I was trying to get the vidoe back to run Memtest following the sync error
[16:30] <faissal> nosrednaekim: lol im back. once i unmounted the drive i can mount it again .....
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> faissal: .hal-tab error again?
[16:31] <faissal> 'umount /media/sdg1' -> 'mount /media/sdg1' =
[16:31] <faissal> fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission non accordée
[16:31] <faissal> FUSE mount point creation failed
[16:31] <Dr_willis> i always have to use sudo umount to unmount my fuse things...
[16:32] <faissal> wtf is this fuse thing
[16:32] <Dr_willis> also the user Must be in the fuse group
[16:32] <Dr_willis> Filesystems in User Space.
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> fuse = file system in userspace
[16:32] <faissal> ok il add myself
[16:32] <Dr_willis> Its a amazing  tool. You can do all sorts of neat things withit.
[16:32] <faissal> hold on
[16:32] <Dr_willis> My face is the fusesmb tool
[16:32] <Sfan00> That settles it
[16:32] <Dr_willis> !info fusesmb
[16:32] <Sfan00> Main Boards failed
[16:32] <Dr_willis> My Fave :)
[16:32] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[16:32] <Sfan00> Just had a capictor start smoking on me :(
[16:33] <tzd> :/ how old was the comp?
[16:33] <Dr_willis> Sfan00,  You let out the blue smoke! thats what pc's run on!
[16:33] <faissal> ok im in the group fuse
[16:33] <Sfan00> Yeah
[16:33] <Sfan00> I don't know why it was smoking though
[16:33] <Sfan00> :(
[16:33] <Sfan00> But the board is dead
[16:33] <Sfan00> :(
[16:33] <Dr_willis> faissal,  adding to groups dosent take affect untill the user logouts/backin.. OR you can cheat and do a 'ssh localhost' :) may be some other ways
[16:34] <tzd> Sfan00: computers age?
[16:34] <Sfan00> 2002
[16:34] <faissal> Dr_willis:  ok thx, ill logout/login ... brb
[16:34] <tzd> ah alright
[16:34] <Sfan00> M/B is 2002
[16:34] <Sfan00> PSU is recent
[16:34] <Sfan00> But it WAS working this morning
[16:34] <Sfan00> :(
[16:34] <Dr_willis> thats how PC's die.
[16:35] <nosrednaekim> 2002 is a bit old...
[16:36] <tzd> is there an easy way to "backup" all linux programs, settings and well everything and then transfer to another "blank" computer? E.g. if i buy a new computer will it be possible to move everything from my old to the new one and boot it up?
[16:37] <Sfan00> Anyone know who the European Agenst for Gigabyte are?
[16:38] <phoenixz> Hi there, I am "fighting" with my xorg.conf to get a correct configuration for my laptop so that I can use both the internal and external monitor..
[16:38] <Sfan00> Persunat to WEEE I'd like to dispose the board properyl
[16:38] <phoenixz> I have both monitors working now but the resolution on the first monitor is not good
[16:38] <Dr_willis> tzd,  you are refering to the users home dirs? or system settings? or both... :)
[16:38] <tzd> Dr_willis: both :)
[16:38] <phoenixz> well, I dont even know on what resolution its running! :) How can I see what resolution its running with?
[16:38] <ardchoille> tzd: Identical hardware?
[16:39] <faissal> hey i am back Dr_willis & nosrednaekim : well now i get the error :option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf
[16:39] <tzd> ardchoille: as Sfan00s hw setup?
[16:39] <Dr_willis> backing up the package list and reinstalling them is one task. thats not too hard to do.. backingup home - is not too hard either. :)
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Then most all system settings are in /etc/
[16:39] <nosrednaekim> faissal: sorry, I have no clue about fuse and NTFS
[16:39] <faissal> ok nosrednaekim thx anyways
[16:39] <Sfan00> The capictor that was smoking was on the top corner of the board...
[16:39] <Sfan00> :(
[16:39] <tzd> ardchoille: ops never mind, got that one wrong... well no not identical hw
[16:40] <Dr_willis> faissal,  you could edit /etc/fuse.conf and enable the user_allow_other setting I guess..
[16:40] <Dr_willis> faissal,  not sure what you are doing exactly however. :)
[16:40] <Sfan00> What's annoying is that I had got the machine running happily at 1.8 and with an Nivida 5200 128 already to install Kubuntu and thing went pear shaped :(
[16:40] <faissal> ok, im already editing it i remove the # before the line user_allow
[16:40] <Dr_willis> Im guess ing user_allow_othes, lets Other users access a different users fuse mounts as their own.
[16:40] <faissal> Dr_willis:  i get another error now lol :
[16:40] <faissal> fusermount: option blkdev is privileged
[16:40] <faissal> FUSE mount point creation failed
[16:40] <faissal> Unmounting /dev/sdb1 ()
[16:40] <Dr_willis> ive never had to twiddlw eith that befor.
[16:40] <Sfan00> Anyone know of a reasonably cheap Main/Board and chip combo?
[16:41] <tzd> Dr_willis: great, that's just what i was hoping for! Thanks! Now i just need to save up some money so i can actually buy a new computer and then transfer my settings ;)
[16:41] <Dr_willis> tzd,  may be easier to just clone the whole hd. :)
[16:41] <Dr_willis> faissal,  lets step back see what you are trying to do. :) we may have missed a step.
[16:42] <theadministrator> !compiz
[16:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:42] <tzd> Dr_willis: hehe yeah if it's possible to clone partitions and not all physical hdd... don't want windows to be a part of my future baby ;P
[16:42] <faissal> fine Doc !!
[16:42] <faissal> i was also felling like what a mess just to get a usb drive mounted
[16:43] <ardchoille> tzd: If you're going to clone the partitions, I'd recommend you get a copy of http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page as that will make imaging fast and easy. I use it to make backup images in case I need to restore in an emergency
[16:44] <kim__> guys i have problems connecting to a wlan wich sidd is invisible
[16:44] <tzd> ardchoille: ah looks nice, it's free as well?
[16:44] <ardchoille> tzd: Yes, and it has PartImage, which you can use as a fast partition imaging app
[16:45] <kim__> how can i hack a wep easy?
[16:45] <daffa> !torrent
[16:45] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[16:45] <ardchoille> kim__: This isn't the place for such questions.
[16:45] <tzd> ardchoille: aaaaah that's just awesome! Just what I was looking for! Thanks a lot :)
[16:45] <Dr_willis> and its not 'easy' :)
[16:45] <kim__> those programs are opensource?
[16:45] <ardchoille> tzd: yw
[16:46] <Dr_willis> kim_,  there are guides on the web. hit google..  they show ya the often long and detailed methods used. which most networks are immune to these days anyway
[16:46] <tzd> hmm doesn't anyone use Kmail filters by the way? Been trying all day in different channels to get some help with a basic filter without any luck :)
[16:46] <Dr_willis> and no ive never done it..ive just read the guides to see how its done and how to secure the networks :)
[16:47] <kim__> anyway its find the netwerk with the wep but that invisible sidd i can not connect to it
[16:49] <Sfan00> YEP Found the fault
[16:49] <Sfan00> ONE Tiny 3 pin chip
[16:49] <Sfan00> has  a mniscule crack in it
[16:49] <Sfan00> :(
[16:49] <kim__> if i chose connecting with another wlan network its fails by 28 procent
[16:49] <Sfan00> But that's killed the board
[16:49] <faissal> how can i add write access to /media/sdb1 to myself please ?
[16:50] <sigma_123> so when kde4 is released how wil it be available for gutsy users?
[16:50] <NickPresta> sigma_123, perhaps via backports
[16:50] <MGalaxy> PLZ suggest me a software for converting picture formats
[16:50] <sigma_123> sudo chown it in konsole
[16:51] <NickPresta> MGalaxy, I like `convert`, part of the imagemagick suite. `sudo apt-get install imagemagick`
[16:51] <trappist> faissal: add yourself to the plugdev group
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> sigma_123: backports
[16:51] <faissal> trappist: ok thx
[16:51] <sigma_123> i hope they do a livecd. i dnt wana mess with my current install
[16:51] <MGalaxy> NickPresta: has it a GUI?
[16:51] <NickPresta> sigma_123, there is a current KDE4 liveCD, IIRC
[16:51] <NickPresta> MGalaxy, no, it's a command line utility
[16:51] <kim__> please can someone tell me why it fails when i am trying to connect to the hidden sidd in kubuntu ?
[16:51] <faissal> trappist:  i was already in it
[16:52] <ardchoille> sigma_123: See the channel topic
[16:52] <NickPresta> MGalaxy, I don't know of any GUI application offhand. Sorry
[16:52] <MGalaxy> NickPresta: I need something with GUI
[16:52] <trappist> faissal: then you have write access to the device - just maybe not to the mounted directory
[16:52] <MGalaxy> NickPresta: ok, thx
[16:52] <sigma_123> yeah i know that but its rc2. wil they update it when the final version is released?
[16:52] <faissal> trappist yes thats it
[16:52] <faissal> trappist: i want access to the mounted directory
[16:53] <trappist> faissal: do ls -l /media and see who owns the directory.  if I insert a usb stick while I'm logged in, I own it
[16:54] <Dr_willis> normally the person mounting the device has permission on it.
[16:55] <sigma_123> yeah i wud think that 2
[16:55] <trappist> huh.  the timestamp on the directory is 1969-12-31 18:00
[16:55] <faissal> i own /media/sdb1 trappist
[16:55] <MGalaxy> PLZ suggest me a software for converting picture formats + GUI
[16:55] <sigma_123> lol
[16:55] <trappist> faissal: then you should definitely be able to write to it
[16:56] <sigma_123> if u own it u shud b able 2open it
[16:56] <sigma_123> and write 2it
[16:56] <NickPresta> MGalaxy, you can use The GIMP, although it isn't meant solely for converting image formats.
[16:56] <trappist> MGalaxy: there are lots of gui ones (try the gimp) but if you're not afraid of a little console work, you can convert a zillion images at once with a simple command
[16:57] <faissal> trappist thats right i can write in it when the usb stick isnt inserted
[16:57] <sigma_123> MGalaxy: what do u wana convert to?
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> imagemagik
[16:57] <MGalaxy> sigma_123: anything to anything :D
[16:57] <faissal> trappist it is just that i cannot mount  the drive i get an error saying fusermount: option blkdev is privileged
[16:57] <MGalaxy> NickPresta: trappist: thx
[16:57] <sigma_123> wel id say gimp. it does a good job
[16:58] <sigma_123> pity its a slow gtk app :(
[16:58] <trappist> faissal: why didn't you say that in the first place
[16:58] <Timmy|away> Please help. I cannot start my system, it goes through the kubuntu startup, but I get the flashing cursor. During the last boot, I used System Manager to change the resolution of the boot, which worked fine, I also dropped to the command line to try to do a fdisk, but diddn't go through with it. I did this to a secondary hard drive, so this shouldn't effect it. Everything was fine, so I...
[16:58] <Timmy|away> ...shutdown -h then started again and now I get the flashing cursor. Please help.
[16:59] <sigma_123> i had to go back 2konq because firefox was hopeless
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> Timmy|away: can you do ctrl+alt+f2 and get a command line?
[16:59] <faissal> trappist : sorry but it is right now that i get this message it didnt appear 1st
[16:59] <trappist> faissal: what kind of filesystem is on that device
[16:59] <Timmy|away> nosrednaekim: Let me try
[16:59] <faissal> trappist ntfs
[16:59] <BluesKaj> sigma_123, how many konqs do you have
[16:59] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:59] <Timmy|away> nosrednaekim: No
[17:00] <trappist> faissal: that's what I thought - there's a lot of google hits on that error message, all for ntfs
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> faissal: just wondering... does it have to be NTFS? FAT makes this a heck fo a lot easier
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> Timmy|away: can you boot into fail safe mode(from grub)
[17:00] <faissal> nosrednaekim: yes because i got files larger than 4 gb :dvd isos
[17:00] <Timmy|away> Let me try.
[17:00] <trappist> faissal: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#useroption3
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> faissal: ah..ok.
[17:00] <faissal> ok trappist:
[17:00] <trappist> faissal: so make it ext3 :)
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> it probably needs to be read by windows.
[17:01] <faissal> yes but i need access to it to backup 1st trappist ;)
[17:01] <Timmy|away> nosrednaekim: When I went back to restart it, it had just started x.
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> Timmy|away: so eveything is good?
[17:01] <faissal> no i am trying to get rid of windows today lol...
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> faissal: oh.... then do format it ext3..
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> (if it doesn't have anything on it.)
[17:01] <Timmy|away> At first sight, yes. Ill take a look and see if its all solid. Is there a boot log nosrednaekim?
[17:01] <faissal> before i format it, i need access to the files to back them up
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> Timmy|away: "dmesg" or /var/log/messages
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> faissal: ah :)
[17:02] <Timmy|away> nosrednaekim: I have installed a new sata hard drive, it has no partition table, so I need to partition it, what is the easiest way to do it.
[17:02] <faissal> maybe gparted
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> Timmy|away: qtparted
[17:03] <Timmy|away> nosrednaekim: I'm switching back to my PC, nick TimS
[17:03] <Timmy|away> Thanks alot
[17:03] <TimS> Right.
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> faissal: I thought you said that your drive was working after you had rebooted?
[17:03] <TimS> qtparted.
[17:04] <faissal> nosrednaekim: it worked but i tried to unmount and remount but it didnt work
[17:04] <faissal> nosrednaekim: it doesnt want to be mounted again
[17:04] <TimS> nosrednaekim: Is there any relevance to the order devices are listed in "sudo fdisk -l" last time my sata hard drive was second, now its first.
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> faissal: ah....
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> TimS: I don't think so.
[17:05] <pfein> I'm using a white-on-dark color theme... if I go an https:// site in konq, the address bar background turns tan & is unreadable... anyone?
[17:05] <TimS> Odd.
[17:06] <kim__> Knetworkmanager can not connect to my hidden sidd
[17:06] <kim__> j
[17:08] <ardchoille> kim__: What are you trying to do?
[17:08] <faissal> chmod 4755 $(which ntfs-3g) -> can someone please explain me what do (which ntfs-3g) stands for ??
[17:08] <Sfan00> Right people
[17:08] <Sfan00> Question..
[17:08] <Sfan00> Which version of Main baord do i need to get for Kubunut
[17:08] <Sfan00> *kubuntu
[17:08] <phoenixz> I have a Dell latitude d620 laptop with external monitor, I just configured X for 2 monitors but once I switch to the external monitor of my laptop using fn+F8, I cant switch back.. is there anything known about that?
[17:09] <ardchoille> faissal: "$(which ntfs-3g) is a variable telling the system the path to ntfs-3g. It's the same as if you open a terminal and type: which ntfs-3g
[17:09] <phoenixz> Whenever I press fn+F8 again, the external screen flickers for a second, but nothing else happens, the output stays on the external screen while it should be shown on the builtin LCD screen...
[17:09] <kim__>  I am trying to set up the wlan for my girl but her step father haves a hidden sidd he did gave me the name but it will not connect
[17:10] <DarkTan_> i've notice that kubuntu has a lost of the fonts that windows has. is ut possible to use fonts for windows on linux?
[17:10] <ardchoille> kim__: You're trying to hack into it?
[17:10] <faissal> ardchoille: thx a lot
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: yes, it is
[17:10] <faissal> Yeeaha, it works
[17:11] <kim__> cno i am not trying to hack it
[17:11] <TimS> nosrednaekim: Is it odd that a brand new hard drive, 250gig, only has 232.39 left after i created a partition table?
[17:11] <DarkTan_> do i install them the same way as on windows?
[17:11] <TimS> bbcode:
[17:11] <TimS> [url=http://sixpop.com/images/][img]http://sixpop.com/images/file/87943062.png[/img][/url]
[17:11] <TimS> html:
[17:11] <TimS> <img src=http://sixpop.com/images/file/87943062.png>
[17:11] <TimS> options:
[17:11] <TimS> add to personal notes, but you can't till you login.
[17:11] <TimS> preview
[17:11] <TimS> Whoops
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> TimS: no. thats normal.
[17:11] <ardchoille> faissal: yw
[17:11] <TimS> Okay ^_^
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> TimS: I have a 120GB hd, only 111 of which is available
[17:12] <phoenixz> TimS, thats pretty normal i guess, hard drive manufacturers dont multiply by 1024 as they should but by 1000
[17:12] <TimS> Okay, I have clicked creat in qtparted, as this is my new /home partition, should this be a primary partition? Also, ext3 is the normal, and what does label mean, is this just a name?
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> TimS: yes, the first 3 partitions are primary
[17:13] <TimS> Label?
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> TimS: yes, label is just a name
[17:13] <TimS> Okay, so Home would be fine
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[17:13] <TimS> So, next I right click, format
[17:13] <TimS> Or do I click Commit first?
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> IDK....
[17:14] <TimS> Okay :P
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> don'tthink it matters, if it does, it'll give you an error
[17:14] <TimS> Commit I think.
[17:15] <TimS> Looks okay ^_^
[17:21] <kim__> Can someone please tell me how to connect to a hidden sidd in knetwork manager
[17:21] <sonic__> how long should it take to resize an ntfs partition on a fairly modern system? kubuntu partition manager just hangs. its been 25 min
[17:22] <ardchoille> kim__: Please take that to another channel. Given your original question (how can i hack a wep easy?) and your recent questions, your intentions do not appear to comply with our guidelines.
[17:22] <kim__> sonic do you have 7.10? by my girl it went fast but she got a small disk
[17:23] <kim__> ardchoille i dont wanna hack but it also seems not that i can connect easy to a hidden sidd with knetwork manager
[17:24] <sonic__> kim__: yes.  ive got 12000 MBs used on a Windows partition and want to resize it from 90 GB to 20 GB. I also defragged it beforehand.
[17:24] <sonic__> this is a gutsy install
[17:24] <ardchoille> kim__: Do you have the necessary credentials to log in?
[17:24] <kim__> i have the sidd name there no wep code or anything
[17:25] <TimS> Hello again. I am about to copy my /home to a new hard drive to use as a home drive, but when it was created, it created a Lost+Found directory, do I need this directory and will it show up in my home directory from now on?
[17:26] <kim__> and now i am using tempory the kabel but i need to set the wlan before her stepfather takes the kabel
[17:26] <sourcemaker> TimS: this directory should be in root "/"...
[17:26] <shaffy> can someone please recommend another mp3 player other than amarok; i am absolutely fet up with it.  it constantly crashes/hangs.
[17:27] <sub[t]rnl> TimS➜ GNU/Linux puts files in Lost + Found that it has restored after a system crash or a partition hasn't been umounted correctly.
[17:27] <sourcemaker> shaffy: juk is working fine for me
[17:27] <ardchoille> kim__: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:27] <Sanne> TimS: as far as I know, this directory is created on every ext3 partition
[17:27] <shaffy> sourcemaker: thanks for your input.  does it have relatively decent options?
[17:27] <TimS> This is a new hard drive, I just partitioned it and formated it, I inted to copy my /home dir to it and mount it over the top. Will it cause a problem and can I remove it.
[17:27] <TimS> It is a ext3 partition.
[17:28] <sourcemaker> shaffy: it's easy to use... and does not have many options
[17:28] <TimS> Is it possible to hide it from anyone that isn't root then?
[17:28] <shaffy> thanks sourcemaker.  i appreciate the input.
[17:29] <TimS> also, sub[t]rnl its a 250gig hard drive and has 218gig avalibe, is that right?
[17:30] <sonic__> well where can I get kubuntu 7.04? I never had problems resizing with that.
[17:30] <LeAstrale> hmm.. google kubuntu 7.04 download
[17:31] <sub[t]rnl> TimS➜ ext3 reserves space on the drive afiak
[17:31] <sourcemaker> sonic__: why not using gusty?
[17:31] <TimS> Thats not very nice of it. :P
[17:32] <LeAstrale> sourcemaker: Gutsy is more or less unstable compared too feisty
[17:32] <sonic__> sourcemaker: cause resizing ntfs just hangs. Ive tried it twice and its even on a defragged partition with 10Gb of free space Im leaving on it
[17:32] <sourcemaker> sonic__: ok... nice to know
[17:32] <Dr_willis> i find gutsy stable here.. i did do a clean install :)
[17:33] <Dr_willis> and i dont use compiz.
[17:33] <ardchoille> LeAstrale: That is not true. I found Gutsy (clean install) to be very stable.
[17:33] <sonic__> sourcemaker: dont get me wrong, I HATED Qtparted. but at least resizing works.
[17:33] <sub[t]rnl> TimS➜ hehe, you should be able to adjust the amount of reserved space with tune2fs, but make sure you read up on it and know what your doing
[17:34]  * sub[t]rnl agrees with ardchoille
[17:34] <sonic__> Dr_willis: been using gutsy since alpha.  no problems.  but the install disk wont resize my ntfs.  so Im going to use 7.04 just to resize then finish off with gutsy
[17:34] <LeAstrale> ardchoille: i installed it on my Latitude D630 and i've never seen any Ubuntu system so unstable.. Hardy Alpha 2 was much more stable
[17:34] <Sanne> TimS: the size also depends on how it is counted, as 1MB = 1000 Bytes or 1024 Bytes
[17:34] <Dr_willis> I alwyas use the various gparted live cds  for my resizing needs
[17:35] <Dr_willis> ive seen some windows disk layouts that just really confuse some of the parted tools.
[17:35] <sonic__> Dr_willis: ok Ill search for that. hopefully itll be a smaller download ;)
[17:35] <TimS> Also, I need to copy my home directory across now, but usualy I would drop to the command line, so that nothing is in use, but when I startx after wards, I get now shutdown options, and i have to go back to the command line and shutdown from there, should I startkde or is there a better command just to get it back to normal.
[17:35] <TimS> Sanne: 234gig if I use H :P
[17:36] <TimS> sub[t]rnl: Ah thanks, I may look it up if I need some more space in the future :P
[17:36] <Dr_willis> Gparted Live cd,  I think is its full name.
[17:36] <theadministrator> !fonts
[17:36] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[17:37] <Sanne> TimS: aha, see? :)
[17:37] <sonic__> Dr_willis: yeah I found it.  thanks again. thats what I needed
[17:37] <TimS> I wonder what the manafacturers use. Probably 1000 whereas linux is proper and uses 104 :P
[17:37] <TimS> 1024*
[17:38] <Dr_willis> marketing likes to use 1000 so the #'s look bigger. :)
[17:38] <Dr_willis> I got a 300gb hd.. it came with 'free' 20gb extra!
[17:38] <TimS> XD
[17:38] <sub[t]rnl> lol
[17:38] <Dr_willis> wellif they had used the 1024 # - instead of 1000...
[17:39] <Dr_willis> Most likely they stopped makigmn the 300s nd still had 300 box;s about :) so they Put them in there and stuck a 'free'  sticker on the box
[17:39] <TimS> hehe :P
[17:39] <TimS> Right, I'm gonna try and copy all my data across.
[17:40] <TimS> Ill irssi if I get stuck :P
[17:41] <mace_> hello. i tried to install wicd_1.3.1-all.deb to get wpa support for my wireless card. by installing with dpkg i get an error that wicd collides with network-manager. should i remove network-manager?
[17:41] <Sanne> TimS: I recently learned that actually 1000 Bytes  = 1 MB and is pronounced megabyte, while 1024 Bytes = 1 MiB (mibibyte). Nobody seems to use it correctly, though (me neither).
[17:42] <TimS> Im stuck.
[17:42] <Dr_willis> I think the techky nerds got sick of the MB term being abused.. so they made a new one. :)
[17:42] <ardchoille> !wireless | mace_
[17:42] <ubotu> mace_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:42] <TimS> I got to the kde login screen. Clicked console log in, and it went black, I got to a screen with a black flashing cursor, and waited, it started X and KDE again.
[17:42] <TimS> Whats wrong?
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl> mace_➜ wpa is supported in knetworkmanager
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl> mace_➜ but yeah, you'll have to remove one to use the other
[17:44] <TimS> Ill try for a restart.
[17:45] <mace_> sub[t]rnl: hmm i do only see wep options
[17:45] <sub[t]rnl> mace_➜ right click on the icon, then go to connect to other wireless network and enter the essid, and select the encryption method
[17:46] <sigma_> i just use kwifimanager, its so much simpler for some reason
[17:47] <sub[t]rnl> knetworkmanager still has some rough edges, thats for sure
[17:47] <mace_> would it be better for me to get wicd :)?
[17:47] <sigma_> yeah true, i find it perfect for wired lan but wireless still leaves alot to be desired
[17:48] <sigma_> mace_: try kwifimanager in the repos
[17:48] <sub[t]rnl> well, not even for wired lan, it still flubs up when you set manual ip's in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:48] <sub[t]rnl> but its getting better!
[17:48]  * sub[t]rnl hums
[17:49] <snarkster> good morning, I started up my laptop this morning and it very kindly told me that it could not start kstartupconfig.  Has anyone else had this issue?
[17:49] <snarkster> !kstartupconfig
[17:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kstartupconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:50] <sigma_> sub[t]rnl: i set a manual ip but in kcontrol and it still worked. i hate dhcp assignment, its almost impossible to use with nfs or my apache server the way i like it
[17:50] <mace_> sigma_:  ok ill try
[17:50] <sub[t]rnl> snarkster➜ hrm, could be a problem with ownership of your /home/usr direcotry
[17:51] <snarkster> hmm I dont htink i have a /home/usr
[17:51] <sub[t]rnl> no /home/"user"
[17:51] <Dr_willis>  /home/USERNAME :)
[17:51] <sub[t]rnl> like, /home/snarkster
[17:52] <sigma_> can someone go to http://10.144.69.107/wiki and tell me what they see?
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> username! there we go
[17:52] <snarkster> uh oh
[17:52] <snarkster> no home directory
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> heh, theres the problem
[17:52] <snarkster> thank you
[17:54] <mace_> sigma_:  is this just a program to search for wlans?
[17:55] <sigma_> mace_: i use it for connecting to my home network. unlike knetworkmanager, it connects automatically as soon as i activate the wireless
[17:55] <mace_> ok thanks
[17:56] <sigma_> mace_: u need to set it up
[17:59] <mace_> problem is, that i got this wlan at my work. cant test it now :s
[18:00] <sigma_> mace_: lol o well theres always 2moro
[18:02] <mace_> hehe :)
[18:04] <mrdigital> anyone intall the CX88 module?
[18:04] <mahasamoot> I'm trying to get Firefox to use KDE dialogs for opening and saving files.  I found references to kgtk... but I'd see a Howto the is just for kubuntu.... but I lost the link.  It was given to me by a person on this list... I've tried in vein to google for it.
[18:05] <mahasamoot> Jucato: are you here?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> whynot just use konqueror ?
[18:07] <sigma_> yes i have moved back to konq after a fling with firefox (cheating is not good) :(
[18:08] <BluesKaj> my konq is very reliable , but it's still slower than FF , can't figure out why ...IPv6 is disabled
[18:08] <mrdigital> does kbuntu have CX88 modules loaded?
[18:10] <sigma_> BluesKaj: huh? slower than firefox. thats not possible
[18:10] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, i beleive the gutsy does ...had no probs with my tv tuner being recognized as i did in previous releases
[18:11] <BluesKaj> well sigma_ , i have both and i can testify that FF is faster
[18:11] <sigma_> BluesKaj: are you talking about the program or the browsing speed?
[18:11] <mrdigital> BluesKaj: what tuener?
[18:11] <sigma_> firefox uses more bandwidth than konq when loading pages, but thats just me
[18:13] <tzd> help with Kmail filters anyone please?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, ATI TV Wonder Pro
[18:14] <mrdigital> BluesKaj: when do do a lspci does it show up?
[18:14] <mahasamoot> BluesKaj: you're joking right?  I can't even check gmail w/ konqueror.  Konqueror doesn't even have a history, and when I tried to save a book mark... it was gone when I looked for it.....    this is why I'm here asking for a link, because I was stupid enough to use konqueror for 5 min. to look at this one webpage which konqueror has now sent to /dev/null
[18:15] <mrdigital> mahasamoot: Opera
[18:15] <mahasamoot> mrdigital: what about it?
[18:15] <mrdigital> try it out
[18:16] <mahasamoot> mrdigital: maybe it's different now, but last I saw it had ads in it... and didn't impress me at all
[18:16] <mrdigital> different
[18:17] <mahasamoot> let's hear the sales pitch
[18:17] <mrdigital> ???
[18:17] <mrdigital> i dont use it
[18:17] <BluesKaj> mahasamoot, konq has a history9just click on "show navigation panel under 'View" , gmail can be rendered ok, there is a fix for that
[18:18] <mrdigital> BluesKaj: does ur tuner show up in lspci?
[18:19] <freexx> ok kubuntu froze up and now it wont boot, it gives invalid operating system
[18:20] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, yes :Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio                                                                                 Decoder (rev 05)
[18:21] <sigma_> hey gmail does work in konq, maybe not in full mode but still works none the less:)
[18:21] <Dr_willis> ive heard that the updates to flash some how broke with konq. But i never use konq. :)
[18:21] <Dr_willis>  I got too many firefox addons i use.
[18:22] <BluesKaj> sigma_, there's an html fix to render most of the page (a little differently than FF I admit) but it does work ok.
[18:22] <freexx> you check out swiftweasel?
[18:22] <mrdigital> BluesKaj: pm?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, i prefer not to PM ...ppl here can help as well incase they've encountered a sismilar condition :)
[18:23] <ubuntu> Im trying to install ubuntu with debootstrap. Im installing grub right now, but it freezes in here
[18:23] <ubuntu> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
[18:23] <ubuntu> nothing more happens
[18:23] <ubuntu> any clue?
[18:23] <mrdigital> the chat is moving too fast
[18:23] <Dr_willis> It is?
[18:24] <mrdigital> im getting a fton of parts and joins
[18:24] <Dr_willis> thats why you disable/hide parts and joins. :)
[18:24] <sigma_> mrdigital: u wana see fast chat, go to #ubuntu :)
[18:24] <mrdigital> how in mirc/
[18:24] <mrdigital> anyways
[18:24] <Dr_willis> I dont use mirc.. read the mirc docs i guess.
[18:24] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, pastebin your xorg.conf file ..I may be able to help if i see it
[18:24] <mrdigital> wait
[18:24] <sigma_> thats why u use konversation!
[18:24] <mrdigital> why do u want my xorg.conf?
[18:24] <freexx> dude
[18:24] <freexx> i love konversation
[18:25] <mrdigital> that has nothign to do with it
[18:25] <freexx> but i love mirc scripting more
[18:25] <mrdigital> my TVtuner isnt being seen by lspci
[18:25] <Dr_willis> calling mirc stuff 'scripting' is akin to calling.. err.. i cant think of a good enough analogy. :)
[18:25] <BluesKaj> what tvtuner is it mrdigital ?
[18:25] <mrdigital> Avermedia M150
[18:25] <freexx> it is scripting
[18:25] <mrdigital> now on the ubuntu forusm
[18:25] <mrdigital> theres a guy who's lspci detected it
[18:26] <faissal> fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/ddext . How can i solve that problem please
[18:26] <ScorpKing> faissal: sudo chown user:user -R /media/ddext/
[18:27] <BluesKaj> what tv app are you trying to use , mrdigital ?
[18:27] <Dr_willis> That may also depend on the filesystem thats mounted.
[18:28] <faissal> ScorpKing: i replace user by my username i guess ?
[18:28] <ScorpKing> yes
[18:28] <faissal> ScorpKing: thx
[18:29] <mrdigital> linxmce
[18:29] <mrdigital> i cant even get it to detect it because lspci doesnt even know the card exists
[18:30] <ScorpKing> faissal: if that does not work see in /etc/fstab if it gets mounted as onother user or something
[18:30] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, that means you don't have a driver installed for the card
[18:31] <ScorpKing> mrdigital: does sudo lshw | less show it?
[18:32] <mrdigital> im rebooting brb
[18:34] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: you said you use firefox.... what did you do about the file dialogs?
[18:35] <mrdigital> hm may help if the card was pushing in all the way
[18:35] <mrdigital> from years of moving it popped out a little in the back
[18:36] <mrdigital> yes! i got it
[18:36] <mrdigital> the lspci sees the tuner
[18:36] <freexx> congrats
[18:37] <mrdigital> now
[18:37] <mrdigital> i need to tell it what it is
[18:37] <mrdigital> Mutlimedia Controller Conextant CX23880 comes up in lspci
[18:37] <mrdigital> hey! lets try it i think it saw it
[18:39] <Sanne> mahasamoot: I'm using not exactly KDE style file picker, but the firefox own (I believe). It's a setting in about:config, look here: http://konquefox.free.fr/#trick_filepicker
[18:40] <mahasamoot> Sanne: thank you, I'll have a look
[18:40] <Sanne> mahasamoot: the downside is it hasn't got bookmarks
[18:41] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  i dont do anything about them.
[18:41] <mrdigital> Sanne: can also add bookmarks
[18:41] <mrdigital> make a folder on the desktop with linux to fave sites
[18:41] <mrdigital> linux yeah lol linx
[18:42] <mrdigital> ... links
[18:42] <Sanne> :)
[18:42] <mrdigital> i got my tv tuner workig
[18:42] <mrdigital> all i had to to was open the case and push down harder
[18:42] <mrdigital> the end popped out of the slot
[18:42] <Sanne> mrdigital: I don't mean web site bookmarks, but file system bookmarks, as you can in the kde file poicker.
[18:42] <mrdigital> ???
[18:45] <mrdigital> BluesKaj: want help with your tv tuner?
[18:46] <cronium> Silence...
[18:46] <makers_mark> can someone please tell me what the command to install system updates is?
[18:47] <makers_mark> is it "sudo apt-get install update" ?
[18:47] <cronium> Dieds with scythe
[18:47] <mrdigital> sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <jussi01> sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <makers_mark> thanks
[18:47] <bascule> sudo apt-get upgrade after that
[18:48] <nooney> How does Konqueror compare to Firefox?
[18:48] <makers_mark> ty :)
[18:48] <Sanne> nooney: Konqueror is a great file manager compared to Firefox ;)
[18:48] <cronium> Firefox - only web brouser...
[18:49] <bascule> nooney: well there are less apges that are coded to take it into account so more breakage in rendering, apart from that it's a nice browser
[18:49] <vit__> HOLA
[18:49] <sub[t]rnl> Konqueror was designed to work well with kde, faster start times because of its preloading, and you can do some really neat stuff with it
[18:50] <sub[t]rnl> firefox is a cross platform browser, and leaves a larger memory footprint.
[18:50] <nooney> Is the footprint significantly larger?
[18:50] <sub[t]rnl> not too bad
[18:50] <sub[t]rnl> but larger, yeah
[18:50] <bascule> konqueror is the app which got me back to kde after xfce, it has no equal as a file manager on any platform, that and amarok make kde the true choice of desktop enviroments ;)
[18:50]  * sub[t]rnl agrees
[18:51] <sub[t]rnl> take a look at swiftweasel.
[18:51] <sub[t]rnl> its a firefox build specificialy for linux
[18:51] <jussi01> !es | vit__
[18:51] <ubotu> vit__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:51] <sub[t]rnl> all the w32 code has been cleansed and it has builds for specific archs/processors
[18:51] <nooney> Cheers for the advice I'll mess around with Konquerror  and see which I prefer
[18:51] <phoenixz> Im using a dell d620 latitude laptop with I945 chipset. I just got the external monitor working as well with the i810 driver for X, but direct rendering is not working.. How can I find WHY its not working? or does anybody know how to fix this??
[18:51] <nooney> sub[t]rnl I'll try it out
[18:52] <sub[t]rnl> phoenixz➜ you might need to use the "intel" driver.
[18:52] <nooney> In the mean time how do I install flash into Konqueror?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> The latest flash updates i hear.. dont play nicely with Konqueror.
[18:52] <bascule> youtube is a no-no
[18:52] <Dr_willis> You could try i guess.. theres a .deb package you can download/install that will isntall the latest flash
[18:53] <Dr_willis> !flash
[18:53] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:53] <nooney> Guess I'll wait
[18:53] <Dr_willis> That 2nd url has links to the package. Not sure how good of a fix that is.. but it has to be better then manually installing the flash from  the tar.gzs
[18:54] <nooney> I don't like playing around with betas and tempoarary fixes
[18:54] <nooney> I'll try swiftweasel for now
[18:54]  * Dr_willis thinks that beta describes flash very well.. 
[18:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:54] <bascule> Dr_willis: all you have to do is cp the.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[18:55] <Dr_willis> bascule,  seems like theres a lot of discussion going on about the flash stuff..  so i imagine theres other issues.
[18:55] <ScorpKing> youtube works in konqueror here btw.
[18:55] <Dr_willis> But the thread got so long i stopped reading it. :)
[18:55] <bascule> flash is nasty on the whole, just stuff to ad-block, but useful too :)
[18:56] <mrdigital> anyone get the beeps thru the speakers? doooo do-do-doooooo
[18:56] <ScorpKing> mrdigital: i assume thats in the bios right?
[18:57] <Dr_willis> Yep - i tend to use the various flash blockers also.
[18:57] <mrdigital> no the Sound card in liinux
[18:57] <mrdigital> every distro i isntaleld has had it
[18:57] <Dr_willis> theres allkinds of beeps. :)
[18:57] <Dr_willis> and bleeps.. what are you refering to exactly?
[18:58] <Freku> maybe a key on his keyboard is stuck  en comp is beeping while starting up
[18:59] <Alonea> hey, what is that command to reinstall the xserver? getting blank screen on startup
[18:59] <werner> *lol+
[18:59] <jussi01> Alonea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:59] <Arwen> whenever I play a video using xv, large rectangular blocks appear all over it, any idea what the deal is?
[18:59] <Alonea> jussi01: thankie. hopefully it will fix it
[19:00] <sub[t]rnl> Arwen➜ are you using compiz fusion?
[19:01] <nooney> Is there anything similiar to "Task Manager" on Kubuntu?
[19:01] <sub[t]rnl> nooney➜ top
[19:01] <rothchild> nooney or try ctrl / esc
[19:01] <sub[t]rnl> nooney➜ htop is nice one to have as well
[19:01] <jussi01> nooney: system - ksysguard
[19:02] <sub[t]rnl> ksysguard gives some bogus info
[19:02] <nooney> k cheers
[19:02] <nooney> is there a hotkey for the konsole?
[19:03] <werner> in kde?
[19:03] <nooney> yea
[19:04] <werner> press alt+f2, then enter xterm, maybe?
[19:04] <werner> or create your own hotkeys .... should be possible in kde
[19:04] <nooney> xterm dosent work
[19:04] <werner> you should install it ... ?
[19:04] <sub[t]rnl> konsole is the default in kde
[19:05] <nooney> cheers sub[t]rnl
[19:05] <jussi01> nooney: kmenu - system settings - keyboard and mouse - keyboard shortcuts
[19:05] <nooney> cheers jussi01
[19:05] <jussi01> :)
[19:05] <rothchild> nooney if you hit f8 in konqueror you can have a terminal in your file browser
[19:06] <sub[t]rnl> whoa
[19:06] <sub[t]rnl> i never knew that
[19:06] <sub[t]rnl> wicked
[19:06] <ScorpKing> nice..
[19:06] <sub[t]rnl> +1 rothchild
[19:07] <rothchild> ;-)
[19:09] <rothchild> it's great cos all the stuff that's better with a gui like extracting files, coppying and pasting etc you can do in the window and for all the trixy stuff the prompt just follows you around
[19:09] <jussi01> same for dolphin, but f4
[19:10] <sub[t]rnl> yup yup.
[19:11] <sub[t]rnl> the konq one's nice cause its attached on there, thats gonna be handy for when I need a quick cut and paste of some page in konqueror to cli, and don't have to alt+tab to my shell
[19:11] <weswh-> ok, so my only real contstant problem in kubuntu has been not being able to mount a drive that my user can access
[19:11] <sub[t]rnl> !umount
[19:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:11] <sub[t]rnl> err
[19:12] <weswh-> i can mount it fine - via sudo, but then it's owned by root etc.
[19:12] <kanoppero> hola
[19:12] <werner> "/etc/fstab/ " ?
[19:12] <jussi01> !es | kanoppero
[19:12] <ubotu> kanoppero: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:12] <weswh-> so i end up doing chmod and chown...or, eventually just doing cp commands from the root shell
[19:12] <werner> change "/etc/fstab" !
[19:12] <weswh-> well - yeah...i mean a have a permanent mount that eventually i was able to get going that way. i guess what i am looking for is more of a one off way to do this (this is an external drive of a friends that i just need to put some data on)
[19:13] <weswh-> so there's no way to say "mount this, avail to all users" done. unmount it..done
[19:13] <kanoppero> en donde busco los canales
[19:13] <werner> try "/etc/fstab" and you will be happy
[19:13] <weswh-> heh, ok :)
[19:13] <werner> versuchs mal, vielleicht klappts
[19:14] <Arwen> sub[t]rnl, no
[19:14] <werner> versuch: noauto,user
[19:14] <ScorpKing> weswh-: man fstab or man mount
[19:14] <werner> besser :-)
[19:14] <sub[t]rnl> bye! arwen!
[19:14] <sub[t]rnl> yes!
[19:14] <werner> *lol*
[19:14] <kanoppero> hola
[19:15] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to reformat and the screen went blank during installation, but the computer is still on
[19:15] <bascule> weswh-: is it ntfs or fat32?
[19:15] <werner> what "reformat?"
[19:15] <pablo> hi evry body
[19:15] <ScorpKing> hey pablo
[19:15] <weswh-> it's ext3.
[19:16] <pablo> si man
[19:16] <pablo> can you help me ?
[19:16] <ScorpKing> !ask
[19:16] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:16] <pablo> ok
[19:16] <weswh-> werner: do i just want to add a new line for it in fstab, just like my internal ext3 partition is done? even though this is a firewire drive, will be in and out of the system and all
[19:16] <pablo> i have linux
[19:17] <pablo> but i cant see the vidios on you tube
[19:17] <bascule> !flash | pablo
[19:17] <ubotu> pablo: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:17] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:17] <werner> device mountpoint filesys options 0 0
[19:17] <Alonea> ok nevermind. I figured it out.
[19:17] <werner> like
[19:18] <bascule> werner: is the mount point for the drive, the dir, chmod 777?
[19:18] <werner> "/dev/sdc4  /mnt/zip  auto user,noauto   0   0"
[19:18] <pablo> ok i am in
[19:18] <bascule> actually meant weswh-
[19:18] <werner> bascule: should be no problem on (k)ubuntu
[19:18] <pablo> ok i will try
[19:19] <werner> and read the man-page (# man fstab)
[19:19] <BluesKaj> mrdigital, was called away for 30mins  ...glad to see you have your tuner working. mine is working fine thx :)
[19:20] <jimmy51> hello, new to linux and looking for help on a Grub Error 21 after installing Kubuntu 7.10
[19:20] <jimmy51> am I in the right place?
[19:21] <werner> jimmy: have you looked for error 21 (was it is )
[19:21] <weswh-> ok, i added that. does that cause it to automount when the system is rebooted - or is that something different?
[19:21] <werner> jimmy : in the grub manual
[19:21] <pablo> but i have a lot of option
[19:21] <weswh-> if i just mount it manually now...should it take those settings, in other words. now that i've saved fstab
[19:21] <bascule> Error 21 means "Can not find disk".
[19:21] <jimmy51> yeah, i googled it and found advice to edit grub.conf or fstab, but I can't even get the partitions to mount in the live CD
[19:21] <werner> weswh: what device do you have added? does the mount-point?
[19:22] <jimmy51> bascule/werner: yes, i found the description... and have a vague understanding.  i think it's similar to boot.ini for windows
[19:22] <werner> jimmy: what did you try?
[19:22] <bascule> jimmy51: was the first reboot after installing onto just resized partitions?
[19:22] <jimmy51> werner:  i opened the disk and filesystems under system settings, and tried to get the partitions to mount through that
[19:23] <jimmy51> bascule: yes, i tried to resize the remaining space
[19:23] <weswh-> not sure what you mean by does the mount-point? yes, i have it pointed to the intended mount location
[19:23]  * bascule fears the worst for the partition integrity
[19:23] <werner> jimmy: try it manually in the grub-shell first
[19:24] <werner> device is like "/dev/sdc4" (or what ever) and mount mount is the dir
[19:24] <jimmy51> bascule/werner:  situation - 250GB Raid1 array, 32GB partition with WXP.  Installed Kubuntu, told it to resize current partition to 32, use the rest of the space using guided install.  when finished, next boot gave error 21
[19:24] <jimmy51> werner:  grub shell?  is there a key combo to get that?
[19:24] <bascule> jimmy51: RAID1 done by some on board controller like nVidia of promise?
[19:25] <jimmy51> bascule:  Adaptec 1210SA Sata controller
[19:25] <werner> jimmy: no. boot from a grubfloppy and add grub options manually and try to boot from there!!
[19:26] <jimmy51> werner/bascule:  I started a thread here - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3090075.msg108533#msg108533 if you want to look at my "fdisk -l" output
[19:26] <bascule> jimmy51: i reckon that you have borked the RAID witht hat install, linux has seen two seperate drives, adaptec presents them to windows as one ... nasty
[19:26] <werner> jimmy: first, define boot disk (# boot (hd0,0) or what ever) and so on ....
[19:26] <jimmy51> ooh, that makes sense
[19:26] <werner> jimmy: try to find a grub manual first
[19:26] <jimmy51> fdisk shows two disks... sda and sdb
[19:27] <jimmy51> werner:  i'll look up the grub disk and try to make one
[19:27] <werner> bascul: good idea
[19:27] <bascule> jimmy51: in the BIOS setup thingy see if it feels that the raid is still healthy, it probably won't
[19:27] <weswh-> werner: yeah, the fstab entry is correct and the supporting directory is there. but what do i need to do now? just mount the drive manually - or reboot and it will automount...or trigger an fstab refresh somehow?
[19:27] <werner> jimmy: there are many manuals how to create bootfloppies for grub
[19:27] <jimmy51> bascule:  i entered the raid bios, and it still says Optimal.... but linux appears to see 2 drives
[19:27] <jussi01> !raid
[19:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:28] <werner> weswh: now, with your normal user account, try to mount one more time, ok? (is it a USB-device?)
[19:28] <weswh-> it's firewire. ah...from the user account. ok
[19:29] <weswh-> i typed
[19:29] <werner> weswh: just try to stick the device in via firewire ... mhhh
[19:29] <jimmy51> werner/bascule:  am i looking at some long complex process to get kubuntu to acknowledge my RAID1?
[19:29] <weswh-> "mount /dev/sdb1" and it said "only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/firewire"
[19:30] <bascule> jimmy51: possibly, there is an old HOWTO based on red-hat but my knowledge of the process is weak
[19:30] <werner> weswh: try it under kde without typing, just plug in ... ?
[19:30] <weswh-> ok
[19:30] <jimmy51> bascule:  i'm looking at that now.... RaidConfigurationHowTo and it looks like it would take quite a bit
[19:30] <werner> jimmy: mhh... i have no experience with raid ...
[19:30] <bascule> jimmy51: you need to get the driver running/working for the on-board adaptec, but I still fear the worst
[19:31] <werner> jimmy/bascul: mybe the exists some manuals for raid and grub?
[19:31] <jimmy51> bascule/werner:  I'm pretty sure my data is toast, but that's ok.  i wouldn't install on my real machine unless i knew what I was doing :)
[19:31] <bascule> :)
[19:31] <werner> jimmy: :/ damn
[19:31] <jimmy51> it's not onboard, it's a PCI card... but it's still a low end one
[19:31] <weswh-> werner: didn't seem to mount my unplugging/replugging the interface
[19:32] <bascule> jimmy51: well it is possible, but you need to do some fancy-panrs config to get it seeing the RAID volume from the card
[19:32] <weswh-> maybe if i just do a sudo mount now it will work
[19:32] <werner> weswh: mh. open a root-shell and mount it via root access; then type mount. what is the output?
[19:33] <jimmy51> werner/bascule:  check this out -  I have an Adaptec 1210SA SATA RAID card. Why doesn't Linux support my hardware RAID?
[19:33] <jimmy51> A. It's not hardware RAID. It is software RAID, provided by the BIOS on the card.
[19:33] <werner> wesh: what does  "ls -l /mountpint" say?
[19:33] <bascule> jimmy51: only tutes I know of are for LILO, but #grub people may know, I will search about to see what I can find, but I would accept data loss now as the superblock is probably broken beyond repair
[19:33] <jimmy51> bascule:  data loss is fine with me
[19:33] <weswh-> drwx------ 2 root root
[19:33] <werner> jimmy: good question... make a new kernel with supporting modules for your raidcard .. ???
[19:34] <jimmy51> bascule:  (well, in this case anyway!)  i'm just trying to learn how to do it right
[19:34] <werner> wesh: ah. "chmod 0755 /mountpoint"
[19:34] <bascule> jimmy51: yeah there is a huge difference between true hardware RAID and most PCI cards
[19:34] <jimmy51> werner:  whoa... make a new kernel?  that sounds crazy
[19:34] <weswh-> just a lost+found folder there - which was created when it was partitioned i guess...but, i don't have permissions to that
[19:34] <werner> jimmy: oha. what about modules?
[19:34] <weswh-> it's lokced
[19:35] <werner> weshw: as root, change permission to execute and read/write with chmod
[19:35] <jimmy51> werner:  jimmy <-- doesn't know what modules are
[19:35] <weswh-> right.
[19:35] <werner> jimmy: oh. bascule?
[19:35] <werner> weshw: ls -l now?
[19:35] <weswh-> just seems like i'm missing something here. i mean, this is the situation i'm always in...why can't i just mount with a flag for my user or something. i've tried before reading and messing with UID etc. but bleh. hang on, doing it now.
[19:36] <bascule> jimmy51: modules are kernel parts that can be added and removed on the fly, basically drivers
[19:37] <weswh-> yeah...i got it now, drwxrwxrwx...
[19:37] <weswh-> (chmod -R, btw)
[19:37] <weswh-> chmod by itself didn't get it
[19:37] <werner> "wesh: should look like :   drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2007-10-21 12:47 sda1"
[19:37] <werner> jimmy/bascule: you should look for the driver in the kernel-config ...
[19:37] <jimmy51> bascule:  ahh.  how would i add the support to the install CD?  i plan on having my raid intact already, with an XP partition
[19:37] <weswh-> yeah. it doesn't show me the dev location in the printout...but yeah it looks like it's all there
[19:38] <werner> wesh: tried to remount it now? have you umount it before?!?!
[19:38] <werner> ls -la
[19:39] <weswh-> so that permission change should be persistent for the next time i mount it?
[19:39] <bascule> I have this setup and it works flawlessly with a pair of 160GB
[19:39] <bascule> SATA drives.
[19:39] <bascule> jimmy51: ^
[19:39] <werner> wesh: sure, the permission of your mount-point is fixed
[19:39] <bascule> from some google hit on a thread
[19:40] <werner> weswh: try to mount it again?
[19:40] <blueyed> Is there a command to simulate clicking on a file from the command line? ("open")
[19:40] <weswh-> and maybe with those permissions it will mount from my normal user
[19:40] <jimmy51> bascule:  you mean there's a google thread that will tell me how to do it?
[19:40] <weswh-> werner:  i'll try in a second - got a file copy in progress
[19:40] <nooney> Everytime I use Ark it tells me the extraction operation failed...
[19:41] <werner> weswh: ah, ok. it should work now, i hope so :)
[19:41] <nooney> but it the files still seem to extract
[19:41] <bascule> jimmy51: no, just someone claiming theirs works, so hope remains :)
[19:42] <weswh-> werner:  thanks very much..i'll let you know
[19:43] <jimmy51> bascule:  what's the link?  i could look it over...
[19:43] <werner> nooney: what kind of archive?
[19:44] <kye> Is there a GUI easy to use AVI to DVD transcoder?
[19:44] <werner> wesh: yes, please
[19:44] <BluesKaj> blueyed, are you here to test ppl's response to cli questions , cuz you being an active pdpc supporter makes me think the question is some kind of test. :)
[19:44] <jussi01> !devede | kye
[19:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:44] <jussi01> !info devede | kye
[19:44] <ubotu> kye: devede: program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[19:45] <blueyed> BluesKaj: you guessed it.. ;) so, what's the answer?
[19:45] <bascule> jimmy51: there is no info ata ll just says it works, I am still trying to establish wether linux will ever go onto a premade mirror/stripe from the cardsd BIOS, it is lookin less likely
[19:45] <bascule> jimmy51: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=17094
[19:46] <BluesKaj> not sure, typing the app name in the konsole, is the only one i know
[19:46] <werner> blueeyed: perl-program? *gg*
[19:46] <blueyed> IIRC windows has e.g. "start" and MacOS has "open". There must be something similar for Linux/KDE
[19:46] <werner> blueeyed: or c, or c++ ? whatever
[19:46] <kye> jussi01:  i've tried that and it seem'd to take over 1 hour and 30mins to convert avi to dvd i stopped it cause it was taking so long. Windows takes me 20mins for a 4.3GB dvd
[19:46] <blueyed> werner: no, I want to open a file, e.g. "foo.txt", with the associated app.
[19:47] <blueyed> ..just like clicking on it would do.
[19:47] <werner> blueeyed: where? in kde?
[19:47] <CrazyMYKL> anyone have any info on when the libgif/libungif conflict blocking kde4 on hardy will be resolved?
[19:47] <blueyed> werner: yes, from konsole.
[19:47] <esaym> howdy
[19:47] <werner> blueeyed: I thould you like to "simulat" the open process ... and read the returncodes
[19:47] <jimmy51> bascule:  doh.  i was hoping i just had to hold down the P key during install and it would all work :)
[19:47] <werner> s/thould/thought/
[19:48] <nooney> werner: tar.gz
[19:49] <werner> nooney: open konsole. type " tar -xvfz FILE". maybe it works...
[19:49] <noaXess> !find visor
[19:49] <ubotu> Found: xen-hypervisor-3.1
[19:49] <esaym> Fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 and the "su" command does not work in the terminal.  Says "su: Authentication failure" after I type in the password.  Any tips?
[19:49] <bascule> jimmy51: would be nice, but I can find no positive hits on linux acknowledging a pre-made array from the card ...
[19:50] <werner> esaym: i created a user "root" with the kde user add appliction and added a superuser-password.
[19:50] <CrazyMYKL> esaym, is your user in the "wheel" group?
[19:50] <esaym> let me check
[19:50] <jimmy51> bascule:  yeah, that's what it's looking like.  most sources I see say it's not a real raid, so the OS has to realize it is from the getgo
[19:51] <emilsedgh> !compiz > blix
[19:52] <esaym> group "wheel" is not a group in the kubuntu 6.06 or my debian install (su works in the debian install)
[19:52] <esaym> maybe try adduser root?
[19:52] <jimmy51> can anyone recommend a true PCI hardware SATA raid controller?
[19:53] <werner> esaym: root should exist... i think ... try to add password ... or so ... (or use debian)
[19:53] <weswh-> 3ware
[19:54] <esaym> yea root exist
[19:54] <werner> try to add a password with the kde systemsetting tool (or somehing?)
[19:54] <esaym> forgot what the change password command is.  on sec
[19:54] <werner> passwd
[19:55] <esaym> yea so "passwd root"
[19:55] <crackhead_25> anyone know where all the messages are stored in kopete? .kde/kopete or something?
[19:55] <esaym> let me try
[19:55] <jim88> hi all ... having trouble installing odf-converter here ... anyone tell me why the last 2 steps of copying files don't work on the examples and is there an easy way to install it
[19:55] <werner> mh. if it doesnd work try it via GUI ...
[19:56] <esaym> fixt!!
[19:56] <esaym> thanks guys
[19:56] <werner> no problem :)
[19:56] <esaym> thank you werner CrazyMYKL
[19:56] <bascule> crackhead_25: ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/
[19:56] <werner> weshw: i'm going to leave. did it work?
[19:57] <bascule> crackhead_25: at a guess I don't use it
[19:57] <weswh-> doing it right now
[19:57] <crackhead_25> bascule: what do you use
[19:57] <crackhead_25> is there something multiprotocol that is better?
[19:57] <bascule> contact list
[19:57] <bascule> crackhead_25: matter of taste really, I yse IRC ;)
[19:58] <crackhead_25> bascule: do you know why sometimes using alt+tab when on firefox and switching to other things crashes firefox?
[19:58] <weswh-> well, yes and no
[19:58] <werner> mh
[19:58] <weswh-> it didn't mount without sudo...but, when i mounted with sudo
[19:58] <weswh-> it's all good
[19:58] <werner> have you tried it with nrmal user?
[19:58] <bascule> crackhead_25: never seen that, flash related + some video driver most likely
[19:58] <kye> whats the command in alien to convert do a  .rpm file to a .deb file? also including all the .rpm files within to be converter to?
[19:58] <weswh-> werner: yeah, that's what didn't work. it said my be root
[19:59] <TheGateKeeper> crackhead_25: sadly version 2 of firefox is not terrible stable
[19:59] <crackhead_25> bascule: do you know why sometimes if i let the screen turn to a screensaver and try to lock automatically when i come back to it there is no mouse cursor?
[19:59] <Alonea> ok, I thought it might of been the wrong video driver or something, but I just reinstalled and I am getting a blank screen after the grub stuff
[19:59] <kye> Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package mjpegtools: postinst postrm
[19:59] <kye> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[19:59] <bascule> crackhead_25: some video driver probably, what you using, ati?
[19:59] <crackhead_25> (it responds to the mouse movement, but you the mouse cursor is invisible..)
[19:59] <crackhead_25> i dont know exactly... how do  i find out?
[19:59] <noaXess> !module
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about module - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:00] <werner> weswh: mh. strange.
[20:00] <blueyed> werner, BluesKaj: you can open urls/files with "kfmclient exec <file/url>".
[20:00] <bascule> crackhead_25: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:00] <Alonea> ok, so I pressed enter a couple times and the screen blinked and the login showed up. whats with that?
[20:00] <weswh-> werner: yeah no biggie...i need to read up on all of it
[20:00] <weswh-> figure out UID and stuff.
[20:00] <weswh-> but this helped..thanks a lot
[20:00] <crackhead_25> bascule: kbd, mouse, and wacom..
[20:01] <bascule> what is last?
[20:01] <noaXess> is /etc/modules the only file to start modules at boottime?
[20:01] <bascule> I get Driver          "nvidia"
[20:01] <bascule> noaXess: easiest one
[20:01] <BluesKaj> blueyed, my question ...errr , why would yo want to unless you like running from the TTY prompt?
[20:02] <jimmy51> werner/bascule:  thanks for the advice... you've saved me a lot of time
[20:02] <bascule> you are welcome jimmy51
[20:02] <werner> blueeyed: thats all? (you wanted to know, I mean :) ?
[20:02] <werner> jimmy: mh, sorry, bascule was the crack :-)
[20:02] <blueyed> BluesKaj: e.g. for an action in Klipper, or if you're at the file on the Konsole already.
[20:02] <blueyed> werner: yes. btw you may want to use tab-completion for nicks.. ;)
[20:03] <werner> blueeyed: thnaks, ok
[20:03] <werner> blueyed: *lol* thank you! :-)
[20:04] <dewija> hola
[20:04]  * bascule wanders to the shops for milk and stuff
[20:04]  * BluesKaj thinks he's lost ...what's klipper ?
[20:04] <werner> blueyed: i'm just an old stupid linuxer since kernel 2.0.0
[20:05] <bascule> BluesKaj: it keeps copy/paste in a place for n amount of copy/paste
[20:05] <blueyed> BluesKaj: Klipper is a must have: it stores your clipboard history. and allows calling actions for specific content (that's what I'm trying to setup for "LP: \d+" now)
[20:05] <werner> blueeyed: and tipping is more faster (but wronger) thand tabbing and scrolling (or so .. ;-) never mind, plz
[20:06] <jim88> hi all ... having trouble installing odf-converter here ... anyone tell me why the last 2 steps of copying files don't work on the examples and is there an easy way to install it
[20:06] <blueyed> np, werner. But it gets not highlighted for me. Not that I would ignore you.. ;)
[20:06] <Kernel> !encryption
[20:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:06] <Kernel> !encrypt
[20:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:06] <Kernel> dummy!.
[20:06] <werner> blueyed: your world :-)
[20:07] <BluesKaj> ok blueyed, bascule , thx ...i shudda known that i use copy n paste all the time , but i don't consult the klipboard klipper very often ...my old memory is kinda short :)
[20:08] <bascule> BluesKaj: i turn klipper off, it burns ram, just a personal choice
[20:08] <werner> blueyed: but its kind o fun here
[20:08] <Kernel> anyone here use encryption on 7.10?.
[20:08] <BluesKaj> but copy npaste still works , bascule ?
[20:08] <Kernel> ie whats the best way to encrypt a laptops drive?
[20:09] <Kernel> there are several howto's on the community docs....but not sure which to go with
[20:09] <blueyed> werner: looks like it, yes.. :)
[20:09] <werner> blueyed: ;)
[20:09] <blueyed> Kernel: AFAIK the alternative installer for 7.10 supports it out of the box, together with LVM if you want.
[20:09] <sigma_123> eeepc
[20:10] <bascule> BluesKaj: yeah, it still works, just no long history
[20:10] <BluesKaj> yup, i see it does work
[20:10] <werner> bye folks!
[20:10]  * bascule is really gone now
[20:10]  * werner t
[20:10] <werner> o
[20:10] <Kernel> blueyed: hmm ok. i wonder what it uses for encryption...ive read that one of the methods used(either cyrptoloop of dk-crypt i think) is vulnerable to attack
[20:11] <blueyed> Kernel: easycrypt IIRC. Does that make sense? You should find out by googling for it.
[20:11] <Kernel> blueyed: ok. ill google that thanks :-)
[20:12] <blueyed> Kernel: please report back :)
[20:13] <Kernel> blueyed: will do. on my desktop i use app called truecrypt and its awsome. but for this laptop i wanna try to encrypt the whole disk.....see how much of a performance loss i get.
[20:15] <enry> hi
[20:15] <sigma_123> hi enry
[20:19] <CrazyMYKL> anyone have any info on when the libgif/libungif conflict blocking kde4 on hardy will be resolved?
[20:21] <sigma_123> did u report a bug?
[20:22] <lingard> can someone do a hash please
[20:23] <lingard> this darn keyboard doesn't have one
[20:23] <CrazyMYKL> the bug has been reported
[20:23] <sigma_123> if its a problem 2u use gutsy. hardy now is just 4testing
[20:23] <CrazyMYKL> lingard, #
[20:23] <lingard> many thanks
[20:23] <CrazyMYKL> i am aware, i want to test KDE4 and need hardy's 2.6.24 kernel for my wireless
[20:24] <bascule> lingard: try shift+3, else to the left of the return key
[20:24] <lingard> tried them
[20:24] <lingard> its a crappy little keyboard
[20:24] <lingard> with an american set up
[20:24] <sigma_123> i see. wel cant u upgrade the gutsy kernel?
[20:24] <xtas> Would you prefer XMMS or XMMS2
[20:25] <jim88> has anyone installed odf-convert for docx yet in Kubuntu?
[20:25] <alice_> hi guys. using kontact i would like to see events of chosen categories (instead of all) on the main page
[20:25] <alice_> can i somehow filter the events?
[20:25] <bascule> lingard: python -c 'print chr(35)'  :)
[20:26] <lingard> pardon me?
[20:26] <bascule> lingard: run it in a shell
[20:26] <alice_> join #kontact
[20:26] <bascule> kenny@Kript:~$ python -c 'print chr(35)'
[20:26] <bascule> #
[20:28] <lingard> then what bascule?
[20:29] <bascule> lingard: nothing, it just gives you a # for futire use ;)
[20:29] <lingard> lol, cheers
[20:29] <lingard> has anyone set up wifi using a belkin card?
[20:30] <bascule> it's more abput the chip on the card than the card
[20:30] <BluesKaj> !belkin
[20:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about belkin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:30] <lingard> its a broadcom i think
[20:30] <bascule> hmm, can be awkward, lspci will tell you
[20:30] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[20:30] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[20:31] <bascule> :)
[20:31] <lingard> cheers
[20:31] <lingard> i've got 3 ethernet cables stuck together t the mo
[20:31] <bascule> lingard: is it an asus eee pc?
[20:32] <lingard> a what?
[20:32] <bascule> guess not, just you said small keyboard :)
[20:32] <lingard> ohh
[20:32] <lingard> no, i'm being lazy
[20:33] <lingard> i just moved my pc for the family to use ant they have a tiny keyboard with theres
[20:34] <lingard> is there an app that does a wifi scan?
[20:34] <lingard> something a bit more windowsy
[20:35] <lingard> i'm pretty sure the caard's installed as it shows up in network settings
[20:35] <bascule> on a working wifi, network manager, or more powerful is the airo* stuff, airodump-ng
[20:35] <bascule> lingard: say iwconfig in a shell
[20:36] <lingard> it comes up no wireless extensions
[20:36] <bascule> you should get some output, then right-click the network manager icon in the dock, shows the networks
[20:36] <bascule> lingard: no wifi working then
[20:37] <lingard> no wifi working or no network connected?
[20:37] <bascule> wlan0     IEEE 802.11b+  ESSID: <-- like that on iwconfig is a working card
[20:37] <lingard> ohh
[20:38] <lingard> it comes up with:  IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"MTL"
[20:38] <lingard> and loads of stuff under it
[20:38] <lingard> just settings by the look of it
[20:38] <bascule> lingard: then it has tried to connect to the MTL network
[20:38] <bascule> but the card is working :)
[20:38] <lingard> so it could be the wek or default gateway?
[20:39] <bascule> lingard: to the left of the clock there is an icon for the manager, right click them and look for a entry for the wi-fis in range
[20:41] <lingard> it shows no networks in trusted or untrusted
[20:42] <lingard> the network tab with the signal indicator is grayed
[20:44] <bascule> lingard: not sure what you mean, hang on screenshot coming
[20:44] <lingard> ok
[20:46] <lingard> on the network settings i set it to auomatically get the ip from dhcp and its sellected ne in the range i've set up on the router
[20:46] <lingard> so it must have connected.....
[20:47] <bascule> lingard: well yeah
[20:50] <lingard2> ok, i've missed the last 3 minutes
[20:50] <lingard2> wifi wasn't connected
[20:51] <bascule> lingard: but it is now?
[20:51] <lingard2> no
[20:51] <lingard2> plugged it back in
[20:52] <lingard2> but its produced the next valid ip in network setting
[20:52] <lingard2> s
[20:52] <bascule> lingard: well re the screenshot, when I right click I see this http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93712_snapshot1_122_797lo.jpg and I click mine, it asks the password, and away I go
[20:53] <lingard2> i only get the wired list on mine
[20:53] <lingard2> but there's about 4 wireless networks in range
[20:54] <bascule> there is a chance that networkmanager doesn't like that card
[20:56] <bascule> not the end of the world, we can set it to come on at boot
[21:02] <berni> Polska biało-czerwoni!
[21:03] <bascule> !pl
[21:03] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:09] <nbogdanoff> did ubuntu-base get renamed in 7.10 ?
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> I think its ubuntu-core
[21:11] <nbogdanoff> what about ubuntu-686 ?
[21:11] <nbogdanoff> ubuntu-core doesnt sem to exists
[21:15] <danf_1979> I'm installing kde4 from ubuntu server. Right now I have kwin-kde4 running, but just that. Windows doesn't have any decorations, and I dont have any kicker, or menus
[21:16] <danf_1979> What else should I install? searching for kde4 packages has not been very helpful at all...
[21:17] <danf_1979> I have only kwin running, and "the one" konsole, and thats all in my desktop. No icons, no K menu, no nothing
[21:18] <danf_1979> but, well, kde4 is, at least, running
[21:18] <carwash^> danf_1979: theres a tutorial on kubuntu.org, or at least a list of packages
[21:18] <bascule> kicker is dead, no more kicker, called something else now
[21:18] <danf_1979> bascule, how?
[21:18] <sub[t]rnl> plasma
[21:19] <CrazyMYKL> okay, i've written a workaround for the libgif thing on amd64
[21:19] <danf_1979> Uhm, I have libplasma1 installed, but the other packages with *plasma* in them doesn't seem to help at all
[21:20] <danf_1979> is the plasma binary in some other package?
[21:20] <CrazyMYKL> and to do the same for i386 would be trivial
[21:21] <bascule> danf_1979: alt+f2 -> plasma  ??
[21:21] <danf_1979> bascule, no alt+f2 yet, that doesn't work
[21:21] <bascule> :)
[21:21] <danf_1979> I have only kwin runninh
[21:22] <bascule> danf_1979: try adding a different user,~/.kde is probably the main issue here
[21:22] <animimotus> Hello! Someone can help me for a sed in bash ?
[21:22] <danf_1979> Nope, I did that, it seems that I'm missing some packages
[21:23] <danf_1979> Well, I'll close xchat to open firefox :(
[21:23] <danf_1979> I'll come back later
[21:23] <bascule> ctrl+z bg it
[21:24] <bascule> *shrug*
[21:24] <animimotus> echo '<h1 class="interColor1">kikoo lol</h1>' | sed -ne 's/euh.... somethings to take kikoo lol in the string'
[21:27] <bascule> animimotus: http://rute.2038bug.com/node11.html.gz#SECTION001160000000000000000
[21:29] <animimotus> bascule: thx, I'll try ;)
[21:34] <juan> whats the best way to copy all my settings to a new install
[21:34] <Schuenemann> I need help. I upgraded to KDE 3.5.8 (feisty), but, at the end, an error occurred. Now, I can't open systemsettings. I get an exception
[21:35] <juan> Schuenemann: did you eve tell kde to not do a system check on boot?
[21:36] <Schuenemann> juan, sorry, I don't understand
[21:36] <Alonea> ok, which java do you install? the one that isn't bad and should be banned
[21:37] <juan> its a checkbox in some  settings cant rember now if you didnt tick it it doesnt matter
[21:38] <Schuenemann> juan, I didn't check it, but I don't know how it was
[21:38] <Schuenemann> Alonea, talking to me?
[21:39] <Alonea> Schuenemann: nope.
[21:39] <juan> i use configure and have no idea with kde errors, maybe somebody might recognise the error, what do you get?
[21:41] <Schuenemann> juan, I got this message after the downloaded ended and the installation began: There was an error during updates. Possibly there was a problem in the download of some packages or the update would break packages.
[21:41] <Schuenemann> now, I get that KDE exception whenever I try to run systemsettings. It probably broke other programs
[21:45] <jussi01> !nickspam > nuu
[21:46] <jussi01> !arn nuu Please /msg ubotu nickspam
[21:46] <Schuenemann> Jucato, hey, remember yesterday's update?
[21:48] <bascule> Schuenemann: are these 3.5.8 packages unofficial?
[21:48] <bascule> !info kdebase
[21:48] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 100 kB
[21:48] <Schuenemann> bascule, nope, I downloaded the key from kde's website
[21:49] <Schuenemann> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[21:49] <bascule> ah, non-ubuntu specific then, not from official repos?
[21:49] <bascule> !info kdebase feisty
[21:49] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.7 (feisty), package size 51 kB, installed size 96 kB
[21:49] <bascule> there we are
[21:50] <Jucato> Schuenemann: did you download them from kubuntu's website?
[21:50]  * Jucato yawns...
[21:50] <Schuenemann> Jucato, yeah, from that site you gave me
[21:51] <Jucato> yep, then it's "official" as far as Kubuntu is concerned
[21:51] <Schuenemann> here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-358.php
[21:51] <bascule> Jucato: it isn't
[21:51] <Jucato> hm?
[21:51] <bascule> teh official is 3.5.6
[21:51] <Schuenemann> how come it isn't official?
[21:52] <jmaldon> hi, looking 4 some help me please. fairly new to linux so can anyone recommend a md5/sha1/sha2 etc calculator for linux WITH gui please? does one exist? something similar to quicksfv, hksfv or fsum frontend in windows
[21:52] <jmaldon> many thanks
[21:52] <Jucato> bascule: it's an official update
[21:52] <Jucato> for Kubuntu, from Kubuntu developers
[21:52] <bascule> ah
[21:52] <Schuenemann> Jucato, how do I fix it? Is there a rollback?
[21:52] <Jucato> what's the error?
[21:53] <Schuenemann> after the downloaded ended and before installation finished: There was an error during updates. Possibly there was a problem in the download of some packages or the update would break packages.
[21:54] <ubuntu> hi
[21:54] <Jucato> Schuenemann: could you try doing it from the command line? that will give you more specific error messages
[21:54] <Schuenemann> it did update, though. I have KDE 3.5.8 now. The problem is that it broked systemsettings (and possibly other packages)
[21:54] <Jucato> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:55] <Schuenemann> Jucato, dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[21:55] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:55] <Schuenemann> I'm running it
[21:56] <sebrezil> anyone have problems getting flash to work? I have flashplugin-nonfree as well as kubuntu-restricted-extras installed but still no flash
[21:56] <jussi01> !flash | sebrezil
[21:56] <ubotu> sebrezil: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:56] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:56] <sebrezil> !flash
[21:56] <jerome_> bonsoir
[21:57] <sebrezil> ok so its reccommended to wait. any estimate on how long?
[21:58] <Schuenemann> Jucato, it says the file /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc was modified. Do I keep my version or what?
[21:59] <sebrezil> that bug is from 3 weeks ago?
[21:59] <sebrezil> ...
[21:59] <Jucato> Schuenemann: that depends on you. did you modify your KDM (login manager) settings? do you want to keep it?
[21:59] <Schuenemann> Jucato, I did, but it doesn't matter. I'll overwrite it
[22:01] <Schuenemann> Jucato, finished. Do I have to restart to test?
[22:01] <Jucato> hm... what else did it upgrade when you ran dpkg --configure -a?
[22:02] <Jucato> perhaps restart KDE only
[22:02] <Schuenemann> akregator, knapshot... stuff like that
[22:02] <Jucato> yeah, kde stuff only... just need to logout and login again
[22:02] <Schuenemann> I'll test. brb
[22:04] <Schuenemann> Jucato, still can't start it
[22:05] <Schuenemann> KCrash: Application 'systemsettings' crashing...
[22:06] <bascule> Schuenemann: try kcontrol
[22:06] <Schuenemann> bascule, looks fine
[22:06] <Jucato> Schuenemann: can you start systemsettings from Konsole, to see what error messages come out?
[22:06] <Schuenemann> Jucato, that was already from konsole
[22:07] <bascule> Schuenemann: strace systemsettins
[22:07] <Schuenemann> only that generic exception window. Signal 11 bla bla bla
[22:07] <Jucato> Schuenemann: hm... weird...
[22:07] <bascule> 11 is seg fault, bad memory map
[22:07] <Schuenemann> bascule, thousands of line
[22:07] <Schuenemann> lines*
[22:08] <bascule> Schuenemann: yeah it's the last 50 I want, in a pastebin
[22:08] <Schuenemann> this is the trace from the exception window: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50646/
[22:08] <bascule> !paste
[22:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:08] <bascule> cool
[22:08] <Schuenemann> that is not cool
[22:09] <Schuenemann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50647/ from strace
[22:10] <bascule> Schuenemann: need more, las 150
[22:10] <skole> Hi! Working to change a file in Virtualbox. To make usb to work. I use Gutsy. Some one?
[22:10] <Schuenemann> bascule, I lost them... I have close(1023) to close(37)
[22:11] <Schuenemann> how do I retrieve the first ones
[22:11] <bascule> Schuenemann: rerun it ...
[22:11] <TimS> Could someone help me edit my fstab please? I have a hard drive /dev/sda1 that I would like to mount as /home, its ext3
[22:12] <Schuenemann> bascule, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50648/ see if this helps
[22:13] <skole> I need help to change a file. How can i make the changes described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/151585
[22:14] <bascule> /etc/ld.so.nohwcap <-- suspicious
[22:14] <Schuenemann> bascule, what does it mean?
[22:15] <bascule> Schuenemann: sudo touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap
[22:15] <Schuenemann> bascule, no output
[22:16] <bascule> now run systemsettings
[22:16] <Schuenemann> bascule, same crash
[22:17] <bascule> Schuenemann: sudo ldconfig
[22:17] <bascule> then run again
[22:18] <luidzi> hsoi
[22:18] <luidzi> calc
[22:18] <Schuenemann> the same. no output from the first, bw
[22:18] <Schuenemann> btw*
[22:18] <bascule> Schuenemann: and systemsettings still crashes?
[22:19] <Schuenemann> yeah...
[22:20] <skole> How to save changes with Kate?
[22:21] <Schuenemann> bascule, any more ideas?
[22:21] <Jucato> skole: File -> Save or Ctrl+S?
[22:21] <Voyage_>  any one kind enough to guide me how to use my tv tuner. (alpha tv card) ?
[22:24] <Schuenemann> Jucato, is it possible to rollback all that mess?
[22:24] <Jucato> that I'm not sure...
[22:24] <skole> Jucato: It states that I don't have write permission...?
[22:24] <Jucato> skole: what are you trying to save?
[22:25] <skole> Jucato mountdevsubfs.sh file. To make Virtual box to recognise USB port
[22:26] <Voyage_>  any one kind enough to guide me how to use my tv tuner. (alpha tv card) ?
[22:26] <Schuenemann> Jucato, well, I'm lost. You have any ideas?
[22:26] <Jucato> skole: and where is the file located? you might need root/super user privileges to modify that file
[22:26] <Jucato> !tv
[22:26] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[22:26] <Jucato> Schuenemann: sorry :(
[22:26] <bascule> Schuenemann: if you remove thee added repos then do an update and dist-upgrade it will roll back, I would do it from a console, no X running for extra safety
[22:26] <skole> Yes I do, but where do I state that?
[22:27] <Schuenemann> bascule, you think I should do that?
[22:27] <bascule> I would
[22:27] <bascule> hang on actually
[22:27] <Schuenemann> ok
[22:27] <skole> Jucato: This link says what I want to do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/151585
[22:28] <Jucato> skole: you have to start kate by Alt+F2, "kdesu kate"...
[22:28] <bascule> Schuenemann: apt-get remove kde-systemsettings && apt-get install kde-systemsettings
[22:29] <Schuenemann> bascule, you're kicking the hut's leg
[22:29] <bascule> :)
[22:29]  * bascule still wants the full trace from strace
[22:30] <Schuenemann> is it logged somethere? I can't see through konsole's window
[22:30] <bascule> strace -o trace.txt systemsettings
[22:30] <bascule> will dump to trace.txt
[22:30] <Schuenemann> interesting
[22:30] <Schuenemann> bah, my adept is b0rked
[22:30] <Schuenemann> !aptfix
[22:30] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:31] <freexx> ok,if my boot disk is at device node /dev/sde1 , should the default grub root device be labeled groot=(hd0,0)  in grub??
[22:31] <Jucato> sde1?
[22:32] <freexx> yea sde1
[22:32] <Jucato> (hd4,0)
[22:32] <Jucato> I think...
[22:32]  * Jucato has never seen sde1 yet :)
[22:33] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to use ktorrent, but I still have a yellow triangle, port checker says port is not open, and LL says I am not connectable.
[22:33] <freexx> why not hd5?
[22:33] <skole> Jucato: Txs 1000 times!!!!
[22:33] <bascule> freexx: cause 0,1,2,3,4 is 5 values :)
[22:34] <BluesKaj> http://www.linuxtv.org/ is not up and running ...what gives ?
[22:34] <freexx> a=0 b=1 etc?
[22:34] <bascule> Alonea: try the upnp plugin in plugins
[22:34] <bascule> Alonea: and see what firewall is running if any
[22:34] <Schuenemann> bascule, the output is big, almost 400 KB
[22:34] <Jucato> freexx: yes. and grub's hdX,X format starts with 0 instead of 1
[22:34] <sub[t]rnl> BluesKaj➜ looks good from here
[22:34] <bascule> Schuenemann: use megaupload.com, bzip2 it if you like
[22:35] <BluesKaj> Alonea, if you have arouter you will proolly need to open the TCP ports listed in ktorrent
[22:35] <Schuenemann> yeah, I think pastebin won't hold it
[22:35] <Alonea> BluesKaj: I did open them.
[22:36] <Alonea> BluesKaj: when my windows was working utorrent could do it fine.
[22:36] <jvcsouza> Hi everyone...
[22:36] <jvcsouza> anyone can help me, with a wifi card?
[22:36] <bascule> Alonea: but this is qa secure OS :)
[22:36] <Schuenemann> bascule, there it is: http://www.4shared.com/file/33800907/937bb34a/trace.html
[22:36] <BluesKaj> Alonea, you can run utorrent under wine as well, but i don't see the point of that , altho there those who swear by it.
[22:37] <Alonea> bascule: qa secure?
[22:37] <jvcsouza> Alonea, try Ktorrent
[22:37] <Alonea> BluesKaj: gah....I have never gotten wine to work
[22:37] <jvcsouza> it's the best Linux torrent client around.
[22:37] <Alonea> jvcsouza: I am using ktorrent.
[22:37] <MGalaxy> I ahve problem with KlamAV AutoScan, + I was not able to install "dazuko", any solution? Kernel: 2.6.22-14
[22:37] <Alonea> jvcsouza: thats what I am trying to get help on.
[22:37] <jvcsouza> any problem?
[22:37] <jvcsouza> Here works fine.
[22:37] <limac> hey, i wanna view a different lang. in kubuntu  (firefox) but it's only showing a bunch of wierd letters, the site is "anandabazar.com"
[22:37] <Voyage_>  i wanted a v good dl manager that has resume support and mirror finding options too. (auto) any suggestions ?
[22:37] <Greenery> Alonea: upnp plugin from ktorrent didnt work?
[22:37] <Alonea> jvcsouza: its not seeing that the ports are open.
[22:38] <BluesKaj> Alonea, the ports used on utorrent are different than ktorrent ...and being linux it takes abit more hands on
[22:38] <Alonea> Greenery: that thing has NEVER worked on my computer. and the ports are indeed open.
[22:38] <jvcsouza> load upnp plugin.
[22:38] <jvcsouza> upnp plugin in ktorrent can detect ports and make some portfowarding.
[22:39] <Alonea> BluesKaj: I know that. had linux for quite a while. been dual booting. also, using port 59749.
[22:39] <jvcsouza> U can see it in settings.. plugins
[22:39] <bascule> Alonea: typo
[22:39] <Alonea> jvcsouza: I tried it. doesn't appear to do anything.
[22:39] <bascule> Schuenemann: how do I download it? all the links seem circular to me ...
[22:39] <juan> whats the best way to copy all my settings to a clean install
[22:39] <jvcsouza> There is a button to re-scan the ports, did u try this?
[22:39] <juan> i know i need my home but what about otherstuff
[22:40] <Schuenemann> bascule, after a few seconds, a download links appears above the comment form
[22:40] <Schuenemann> a table appears and the link is there, actually
[22:40] <Voyage_>  i wanted a v good dl manager that has resume support and mirror finding options too. (auto) any suggestions ?
[22:41] <Alonea> jvcsouza: yes. I click on either of the connections and say to forward and nothing happens. I have forwarded my ports manually for years. dunno whats going on
[22:41] <adm-b01> Hi, I have kubuntu installed on a separate box I would like to be able to set it up so that I can connect to the machine though my xp machine.
[22:42] <jvcsouza> hmmmm strange.... maybe u're behind a too restrictive firewall... or ur router dosent support upnp...
[22:42] <Arwen> wtf, how do I make fglrx use the right resolution?
[22:42] <Arwen> no matter what I tell it, it always sets 1280x10245
[22:42] <jvcsouza> or upnp support on it is disabled.
[22:42] <jvcsouza> try to enable upnp support in ur router.
[22:42] <Arwen> help please?
[22:42] <Alonea> jvcsouza: it is enabled.
[22:43] <jvcsouza> Say Alonea, u can do downlaods using ktorrent?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> Alonea, there is no 59749 port required in my version of ktorrent , the ports required on the version I use are 6881 and 8080
[22:43] <Alonea> jvcsouza: I can download and upload, but I am not "connectable"
[22:44] <jvcsouza> huh, what is this connectable?
[22:44] <Alonea> BluesKaj: there shouldn't be any port required and generally you dont want to use 6881..
[22:44] <Alonea> BluesKaj: the port is for other people to connect to you. you should be able to use whatever you want.
[22:45] <BluesKaj> yes but ktorrent uses those ports for a reason ...they work ! :)
[22:45] <Alonea> BluesKaj: but those ports are usually blocked by the isp now
[22:45] <Schuenemann> bascule, perhaps I should send you? like e-mail
[22:45] <BluesKaj> you want help or do you just want to argue ?
[22:45] <BluesKaj> gawd
[22:45] <freexx> fight!
[22:46] <Alonea> BluesKaj: I dont want to use those ports for security reasons. I think I will try utorrent under wine.
[22:46] <jvcsouza> hmmm sorry I don't have a clue...
[22:46] <BluesKaj> this person askes for help but doesn't try the suggestions ...what can we do ?
[22:46] <jvcsouza> Yes. Try Azurerus if u have Java installed, its a bit heavy...
[22:46] <jvcsouza> but also have a lot of features.
[22:47] <jvcsouza> and it's cross plataform.
[22:47] <MGalaxy>  I have problem with KlamAV AutoScan, + I was not able to install "dazuko", any solution? Kernel: 2.6.22-14
[22:47] <jvcsouza> also a good torrent solution.
[22:47] <gauravvijay> is there a bash command to append a const string to each line of a file?
[22:47] <gauravvijay> like $bsh_cmd "My String" < file
[22:47] <jvcsouza> it ktorrent doesn't work for u, azurerus dosent work, then utorrent will not work either, even in real Windows.
[22:47] <gauravvijay> ??
[22:48] <jvcsouza> Seriosly, if u want real secure sistem u cant use torrent, no matter what OS ur running.
[22:48] <freexx> yayy
[22:48] <gauravvijay> or some piping hack that can do it?
[22:48] <freexx> dude
[22:48] <freexx> torrent = bad
[22:48] <jvcsouza> Torrent is nice if u know how to use.
[22:49] <freexx> the whole idea of torrent is bad
[22:49] <jvcsouza> I dont see this way.
[22:49] <freexx> ok
[22:49] <freexx> if noone seeded
[22:49] <freexx> you woul dhave no torrent
[22:49] <freexx> and
[22:49] <freexx> to seed, you are uploading to anonymous computers
[22:49] <freexx> a government compuiter could come download from a seed
[22:49] <freexx> and then bam you are busted
[22:50] <Alonea> freexx: torrenting isn't illegal worldwide.
[22:50] <bascule> Schuenemann: no I have it, try deleteing /var/tmp/*
[22:50] <freexx> so the only way to be safe is to not seed
[22:50] <Schuenemann> busted for using torrent? that is stupid
[22:50] <freexx> and if noone seeds then noone can download files
[22:50] <jvcsouza> Yes, that's about true. But, The problem is not THE tecnology its people.
[22:50] <freexx> torrenting isnt illegal anywhere
[22:50] <Schuenemann> Alonea, is it illegal SOMEWHERE?
[22:50] <freexx> bypassing copyright is illegal
[22:50] <jvcsouza> They cannot prohibit u from sharing data.
[22:51] <jvcsouza> Yes right, but if I'm uploading a opensource software that I made
[22:51] <freexx> torretn technology is used to jam networks
[22:51] <bascule> yeah, redistributing copyright material without permission is a crime in most countries
[22:51] <jvcsouza> what's the problem?
[22:51] <Alonea> Schuenemann: I guess its not in America, though they try to say it is.
[22:51] <Alonea> Schuenemann: its more of which law you look at...
[22:51] <jvcsouza> Yes right, but if I'm uploading a opensource software that I made
[22:51] <jvcsouza> what's the problem?
[22:51] <Schuenemann> which countries of america?
[22:52] <freexx> wellits godo for open source but..
[22:52] <jvcsouza> Yes.
[22:52] <bascule> jvcsouza: then you have nothing to fear
[22:52] <freexx> people like comcast fuck up torrent traffic
[22:52] <Alonea> Schuenemann: er. USA.
[22:52] <Schuenemann> bascule, it gave me a bigger output this time, but the same exception
[22:52] <jvcsouza> I use to get Linux systens.
[22:52] <adm-b01> can anyway help with enabling remote access
[22:52] <freexx> adm-b01:
[22:52] <bascule> Schuenemann: delete /var/tmp/* again and restart X
[22:52] <freexx> you mean to ssh into your machine?
[22:52] <jvcsouza> don't use for getting coprighted material.
[22:53] <helloyo> hey guys, i've downloaded the live CD twice from different locations and their md5 sums are equal to each other, but not equal to what they should be?
[22:53] <freexx> sudo apt-get install ssh , then type ifconfig and get your ip address, or google "whats my ip" then in a terminal type ssh yourusername@your.ip.address
[22:53] <BluesKaj> sub[t]rnl,  http://www.linuxtv.org/ ..looks good from where? , cuz it won't load here , Canada
[22:53] <Schuenemann> bascule, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50651/
[22:54] <freexx> you may have to go into your router and foward port 22
[22:54] <adm-b01> will that allow me to connect to the box before logging into the machine ?
[22:54] <blizzzek> gn8
[22:54] <bascule> 22:52 < bascule> Schuenemann: delete /var/tmp/* again and restart X
[22:55] <Schuenemann> ok
[22:55] <bascule> helloyo: how did you calculate them?
[22:57] <Alonea> ok, why does adept say that everything fails even though it actually install it successfully?
[22:57] <Schuenemann> bascule, I restarted,l but got the same error
[22:58] <bascule> :(
[22:58] <BluesKaj> anyone able to load this site , http://www.linuxtv.org/  ?
[22:58] <helloyo> bascule: through k3b, then through md5sum
[22:58] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yes
[22:58] <bascule> helloyo: pretty conclusive :)
[22:58] <BluesKaj> not here Jucato
[22:58] <Jucato> :P
[22:58] <Flare183> Where could i find this file: qt.h
[22:59] <helloyo> bascule: seems strange that the two sources gave the same incorrect md5sum, i think i'll risk it and run it anyway
[22:59] <Jucato> Flare183: Qt development headers and files
[22:59] <bascule> Schuenemann: well you could submit a launchpad bug to the devels and attach that trace, it is beyond me for now
[22:59] <bascule> helloyo: I would
[22:59] <Flare183> Jucato: and which package is that?
[22:59] <Jucato> Flare183: if it's for Qt 3, that would be in the package libqt-mt-dev
[22:59] <Jucato> !info libqt-mt-dev
[22:59] <ubotu> Package libqt-mt-dev does not exist in gutsy
[22:59] <Jucato> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[22:59] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu11.1 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 168 kB
[22:59] <Flare183> Jucato: thank you
[22:59] <Schuenemann> bascule, can you repeat how to rollback?
[22:59] <Jucato> Flare183: libqt3-mt-dev
[23:00] <Jucato> (if it's for Qt 4, libqt4-dev I think)
[23:01] <Arwen> someone please help, fglrx refuses to run at the right resolution
[23:01] <Arwen> my eyes are starting to fry
[23:02] <BluesKaj> Arwen, running the default restricted driver ?
[23:02] <bascule> Schuenemann: remove the apt sources you added for the 3.5.8 packages and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:03] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, v7.12
[23:03] <Arwen> and that's besides the point
[23:03] <Schuenemann> bascule, thanks
[23:03] <bascule> !resolution | Arwen
[23:03] <ubotu> Arwen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:03] <Schuenemann> bascule, but, for example, it installed mplayer 1.3. Won't it remove mplayer entirely, not downgrade to 1.2?
[23:03] <Arwen> no, don't give me links to non-functioning tutorials, give me an answer
[23:04] <bascule> i believe it will downgrade, but I may be wrong ... it's not something I have done, I am hoping for a != logic rather than a > gets left ...
[23:04] <Schuenemann> damn
[23:05] <Schuenemann> I'll never upgrade KDE again
[23:05] <master3000> hi@all
[23:05] <Alonea> yay! utorrent in wine works perfectly. w00t
[23:05] <master3000> anyone knows german  kubuntu chat
[23:05] <Schuenemann> !de
[23:05] <bascule> Arwen: well, well, talk me through the steps from the tutorial ypu have triead and paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me in pastebin
[23:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:06] <Arwen> bascule, I haven't tried any because none are relevant
[23:06] <bascule> Arwen: oh, and you know this?
[23:06] <Arwen> my modeline is set to "1440x900", but the resolution is locked to 1280x1024
[23:06] <Arwen> yes, I DO know this
[23:06] <bascule> modeline, oldhat
[23:06] <Arwen> I am using fglrx 7.12 (note that fglrx is not in there anywhere)
[23:06] <BluesKaj> Arwen, if you're running the ATI fglrx latest proprietaery driver recommended for your card , then it prolly will work only partly , some of the so called updated drivers son't always do the roght res with some graphics card/monitor combinations
[23:07] <BluesKaj> right resolutions
[23:07] <Arwen> so, should I give up on fglrx or downgrade?
[23:07] <Schuenemann> bascule, question: I added the repository to KDE 3.5.8. Should I've removed the repo to 3.5.7? (I didn't)
[23:07] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I don't call it a downgrade if the think works better than the new one :)
[23:08] <bascule> Schuenemann: well if 3.5.7 worked, all will be well, incidentally are you on kubuntu?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> but that's what I had to do
[23:08] <Arwen> BluesKaj, do you think I should go back to pre-AIGLX patches?
[23:08] <Schuenemann> bascule, yes, but let me clarify: Maybe having both versions while upgrading caused this mess?
[23:08] <Arwen> BluesKaj, or just roll back a version
[23:08] <BluesKaj> which card Arwen ?
[23:09] <Arwen> X300SE
[23:09] <bascule> Schuenemann: depends on apt logic
[23:09] <Schuenemann> bascule, yeah, of course hehe. I thought you knew about it, nevermind :)
[23:10] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I have the X200G and the 8.37 default restricted driver works quite well, altho google earth is a bit clunky
[23:10] <Arwen> ok, will roll back then
[23:10] <Arwen> thanks for the *thoughtful* advice
[23:11] <BluesKaj> Arwen, NP
[23:11] <Arwen> (rebooting)
[23:11] <bascule> :)
[23:11] <bascule> almost a flame fest
[23:13] <Schuenemann> bascule, I'll install kubuntu-desktop. I'm desperate, anyway :-)
[23:13] <bascule> Schuenemann: that was something I was wondering
[23:13] <bascule> and kdebase and kdeaddons
[23:14] <Schuenemann> humm
[23:14] <Schuenemann> I have to install gutsy...
[23:14] <bascule> ?
[23:14] <bascule> Schuenemann: well that is a tried and tested upgrade path
[23:14] <Schuenemann> later heh. I'm still with feisty
[23:15] <Arwen> BluesKaj, it worked, thanks. You're a godsend.
[23:15] <bascule> glad it was resolved :)
[23:15] <nbogdanoff> does anyone know what happend to ubuntu-base and linux-686 in Gutsy 7.10 ?
[23:16] <BluesKaj> Arwen, cool  :)
[23:16] <Arwen> hmm, fglrx still has that weird diagonal tearing issue
[23:17] <Arwen> ah well, you win some you lose some
[23:17] <bascule> nbogdanoff: 686 was decided to be surpless to requirements
[23:17] <Schuenemann> in my opinion, smirnoff ice is the best invention since the wheel
[23:18] <nbogdanoff> bascule: ok. thanks. im trying to setup raid as this link mentions": http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto but am unable to install the base system cos those packages dont exis anymore
[23:18] <nbogdanoff> any suggestiosn
[23:18] <BluesKaj> yeah Arwen , I have a  jerky slow google earth , supposed to be fixed on new Hardy release ...but I won't hold my breath
[23:19] <adm-b01> hi I am trying to install ssh using sudo apt-get install ssh
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> nbogdanoff- you'd probably want either -i386 or -generic
[23:19] <bascule> nbogdanoff: got dmraid in?
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> adm-b01- client or server?
[23:20] <Arwen> yeah BluesKaj , overall, gutsy fails to impress me
[23:20] <adm-b01> client but it is asking me for the disc which i have not got now
[23:20] <Arwen> they never fixed that issue with the ttys either
[23:20] <BluesKaj> <-- insists on using the 64 bit Gutsy since I'm on an AMD64 bit CPU ...dunno if i'm being stubborn/stupid but ... shrug :P
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- yes
[23:20] <BluesKaj> Arwen, agreed
[23:20] <nbogdanoff> bascule: yeah i get all the way down to the apt-cdrom add and it wont recognize the cd point
[23:21] <Dragnslcr> adm-b01- you probably still have the CD in your sources list
[23:21] <adm-b01> sources list ?
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> adm-b01- in Adept, go to Adept -> Manage Repositories
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> adm-b01- then check the Third Party tab
[23:23] <adm-b01> will have a look thanks
[23:23] <bascule> nbogdanoff: sorry, dunno. But I was chatting earlier with some guy who had adaptes PCI RAID, told him it wouldn't work, there is a start at least :)
[23:23] <bascule> adpatec
[23:23] <BluesKaj> BBIAB , gotta check something
[23:27] <adm-b01> I have done this but I do not know what to do next
[23:30] <Voyage_> can any one help me with a aplha tv tuner  Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[23:31] <roselyn> hola
[23:32] <bascule> hi
[23:32] <roselyn> roselyn de venezuela
[23:32] <roselyn> saludos
[23:32] <roselyn> quien por alla
[23:32] <roselyn> ?
[23:32] <bascule> !es
[23:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:32] <bascule> uk
[23:32] <Schuenemann> !es
[23:33] <freexx> if i installed something with a .deb installer, in this case swiftweasel, how can i uninstall it?
[23:33] <bascule> dpkg
[23:33] <freexx> dpkg
[23:33] <claydoh> it will also show in Adept as well
[23:34] <ogre> anyone running kde4?
[23:39] <KrazyG> Hey all.
[23:39] <sourcemaker> ogre: No
[23:39] <sourcemaker> ogre: I will wait... until KDE4 is stable
[23:39] <KrazyG> I was wondering if anyone can give me a hand getting a tv card of mine to work ?
[23:40] <Schuenemann> ogre, no, I just upgraded to 3.5.8 and it messed everything here
[23:40] <fdoving> ogre: yes, i use it.
[23:40] <sourcemaker> fdoving: does it work?
[23:40] <fdoving> sourcemaker: yep, i've been using it as my primary environment for weeks.
[23:41] <sourcemaker> fdoving: from the kubuntu hardy package ? or compiled yourself?
[23:41] <fdoving> sourcemaker: self-compiled from svn.
[23:42] <bascule> fdoving: how did the qt3 -> qt4 bit go?
[23:42] <bascule> that's the bit I am scared of
[23:42] <fdoving> bascule: pretty nice, they already co-exist on any kubuntu system, so that's not a problem at all.
[23:42] <bascule> fdoving: well I never knew that, thanks
[23:43] <fdoving> bascule: when it comes to kde3 -> kde4, i made KDE4 use ~/.kde4 so i copied over wallets and bookmarks and made new settings for most things.
[23:43] <Voyage_> what is kubuntus default download manager?
[23:43] <fdoving> Voyage_: i guess it is using the kio-thing, you can however get kget.
[23:44] <bascule> Voyage_: there kind of isb't one, kget may do you, I like wget of the cli with -c for continues, just me I guess
[23:44] <Voyage_> fdoving i see that kget is not working with firefox..why?
[23:44] <bascule> Voyage_: firefox doesn't know it, about:config in ffox may sort that ...
[23:45] <fdoving> Voyage_: because firefox doesn't support it i guess.
[23:45] <Voyage_> so what should i do
[23:45] <fdoving> i don't use firefox much, no ide what it can do.
[23:45]  * bascule plays with about:config
[23:46] <sourcemaker> Voyage_: There is a plugin available... but i have not tested yet
[23:46] <Voyage_> sourcemaker fdoving bascule never mind. i did it by drag and drop.
[23:46] <Voyage_> where can i find the plugin btw,?
[23:47] <bascule> Voyage_: cool, looks like ffox can't do it as it stabds
[23:47] <Voyage_> stabds?
[23:47] <bascule> stands, sorry :)
[23:48] <sourcemaker> Voyage_: let my try
[23:48] <Voyage_> k
[23:52] <sourcemaker> Voyage_: it is working... there is plugin called flashgot on addons.mozilla.org
[23:52] <Schuenemann> bascule, I did what you told me (remove repo, update & dist-upgrade) and nothing was installed/removed =/
[23:52] <Voyage_> k
[23:52] <Voyage_> thx
[23:52] <sourcemaker> Voyage_: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/220
[23:52] <sourcemaker> Voyage_: You can configure this plugin to use kget
[23:53] <Voyage_>  i wanted a dl manager with max options resume support and mirror auto findings. does any one suggests a best options?
[23:53] <Voyage_> sourcemaker thx
[23:54] <bascule> Schuenemann: oh well must just look for < current, darn
[23:54] <nandolinuxmaniac> hola!, podrían darme las direcciones en español?????????
[23:55] <Greenery> !es
[23:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:55] <ubuntu> helloevry body
[23:55] <bascule> Schuenemann: guess you gotta go up to gutsy
[23:55] <Schuenemann> bascule, I guess I'll install gutsy. My problem is that I don't have room to backup some stuff
[23:56] <ubuntu> what stuff???
[23:56]  * bascule throws Schuenemann 100GB for help
[23:56] <bascule> :) wish I could
[23:56] <Schuenemann> heh
[23:56] <Schuenemann> ubuntu, films
[23:57] <Schuenemann> for example
[23:57] <Schuenemann> I'll install windoze too... this time, I'll reduce its partition
[23:57] <bascule> Voyage_: seriously wget can do all that, just needs practice
[23:58] <ubuntu> magneto
[23:58] <ogre> where do i install icons to?
[23:58] <Schuenemann> bascule, does gutsy already comes with kde 3.5.8?
[23:59] <Greenery> Schuenemann: yes it does
[23:59] <bascule> Schuenemann: yes
[23:59] <bascule> !info kdebase
[23:59] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 100 kB
[23:59] <Schuenemann> good