[00:14] <joumetal> anyone having browser problems after xulrunner-1.9 update?
[00:22] <Vuen> hey guys, will hardy support tcl 8.5?
[00:24] <joumetal> Vuen yes according to packages.ubuntu.com
[00:24] <Vuen> oh goodie :)
[00:24] <Vuen> i went to archive.ubuntu.com and looked through the package list for hardy, and tcl8.5 wasn't in it
[00:26] <Vuen> hmm, see tcl on packages.ubuntu.com still has version 8.4.16-1
[00:28] <Vuen> oh, but there are tcl8.5 packages. nevermind.
[00:28] <Vuen> awesome by the way.
[02:28] <se7en> what do i do about E:internal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libstdc++6
[02:29] <se7en> i get that error in virtualbox after apt-get upgrade
[08:51] <lennie> hi,all
[08:51] <lennie> My network-manager-gnome is broken
[08:51] <lennie> the unlock button is greyed
[08:52] <lennie> if run gksu network-admin in a terminal,I got
[08:53] <lennie> ** (network-admin:29187): WARNING **: Error doing GetSessionForUnixProcess on ConsoleKit: org.freedesktop.DBus.GLib.UnmappedError.CkManagerError.Code0: Unable to lookup session information for process '29187'
[08:53] <lennie> ** (network-admin:29187): CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '29187'
[08:57] <lennie> any advice?
[09:09] <elkbuntu> lennie, reported as a bug?
[09:10] <lennie> haven't
[09:11] <lennie> gnome-system-administration-network, this is normal
[09:15] <lennie> 1.I don't know it is a bug or only my individual problem
[09:16] <lennie> 2.I don't know it is a bug of which package
[09:19] <danf_1979> Hi, I have just dist-upgraded to hardy (kubuntu) and now my desktop is full of icons, one for every file or directory in /. Desktop directory has no files though, I just can see the icons when I look my desktop. Any clues?
[09:36] <danf_1979> gtk apps look ugly, what happened to gtk-qt-engine? Isn't it working anymore? I have it installed...
[10:20] <danf_1979> gtk apps look ugly, what happened to gtk-qt-engine? Isn't it working anymore in hardy?
[10:26] <amikrop> Greetings. System->About Ubuntu has been removed (and I still can't realize how it happened). Is there any way to bring it back? Thanks.
[10:29] <amikrop> Any help, please?
[10:39] <danf_1979> amikrop, maybe this helps: aptitude search gnome | grep about
[11:19] <amikrop> danf_1979: ~$ aptitude search gnome | grep about
[11:19] <amikrop> i   gnome-about                     - The GNOME about box
[11:20] <amikrop> danf_1979: I miss the "About Ubuntu" entry, the "About GNOME" is still there.
[11:22] <danf_1979> Ah, sorry, it was just my guess; I use kubuntu.
[11:22] <amikrop> danf_1979: OK. Thanks, anyway :-)
[11:22] <danf_1979> you could create a new user and check if it is there or not
[11:23] <amikrop> danf_1979: Good suggestion. I will try. Thank you.
[11:26] <amikrop> danf_1979: Still not there. Seems it has been completely removed from my machine, somehow :(
[13:02] <head_victim> I've spent a bit of time looking around for some fixes as I rebooted my pc and now network-admin won't function. Is there currently any workarounds for this I couldn't locate myself?
[13:44] <IdleOne> !info acl
[13:44] <ubotu> acl: Access control list utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.45-1 (hardy), package size 43 kB, installed size 260 kB
[15:26] <yotux> Is there a place with know issues in hardy?
[15:27] <erichj> launchpad.net
[15:38] <yotux> I am using hardy and when I find things that may be broken should i file bugs reports?
[15:40] <geser> yotux: yes please but check first if it is already filed
[15:40] <yotux> ok I am having problems with the clock in gnome I filled a report
[15:41] <yotux> does hardy have its down bug page in launchpad?
[15:43] <Pici> yotux: s/down/own? If so, then nope.
[15:44] <Pici> I always put the release name in my bug titles though, like [hardy]
[15:47] <yotux> thankz sorry I not a programmer and want to help just don't know where to help out
[18:49] <bardyr> hey
[18:49] <bardyr> new nvidia driver and kernel, this is a good day :)
[18:50] <sparr_w> will heron kubuntu have compiz by default?
[18:50] <sparr_w> hardy, that is
[18:50] <bardyr> yea if you got the driver enabled
[19:42] <Amaranth> sparr_w: No
[19:42] <Amaranth> sparr_w: The KDE4 version will have kwin with compositing that you can enable
[19:43] <sparr_w> :(
[19:43] <sparr_w> kubuntu and ubuntu are diverging too much imho
[19:43] <Amaranth> Err, they're different things
[19:44] <sparr_w> they have large overlap.  and differences.  imagine the venn diagram of *buntu, ubuntu and kubuntu are sliding apart and overlapping less
[19:44] <Amaranth> This is GNOME vs KDE differences
[19:45] <sparr_w> compiz is DE-agnostic, so i disagree
[19:45] <Amaranth> And I'm a compiz dev, I disagree with that :p
[19:45] <Amaranth> It's design makes it possible to be DE-agnostic but more work has been done both upstream and in Ubuntu to fit with GNOME than KDE
[19:45] <Amaranth> Its
[19:45] <sparr_w> ignoring for the moment that i still use beryl because compiz in feisty doesnt work for me
[19:46] <sparr_w> err
[19:46] <sparr_w> gutsy
[19:46] <Amaranth> blacklisted?
[19:48] <sparr_w> what?
[19:49] <Pici> !cfbl
[19:49] <ubotu> Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[19:50] <sparr_w> im using intel 82865G with the i810 driver, and nvidia 7950 with the restricted nvidia drivers, and neither works
[19:50] <sparr_w> with varying results depending on the phase of the moon when i try
[19:54] <sparr_w> sometimes X crashes, sometimes i get unmanaged windows, sometimes i get window decorations with graphically corrupt effects
[20:45] <scizzo-> should warn people to use the new nvidia drivers btw
[20:47] <h3sp4wn> What is there some non beta ones out now?
[20:48] <scizzo-> the 169.07 is known to put the fan on the GPU to run at max speed for some cards
[20:48] <scizzo-> I wanted to see if they did on mine and well you can guess the result
[20:49] <scizzo-> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104713
[20:51] <scizzo-> 169.04 seems to be the version that people are recommending instead of 169.07
[20:51] <scizzo-> at the moment the nvidia team are have a _later_ stable release for the new drivers to fix that fan issue
[21:07] <h3sp4wn> scizzo-: Not an issue for me as I don't use cards with fans (don't like the noise)
[21:07] <scizzo-> h3sp4wn: hehe...
[21:07] <scizzo-> h3sp4wn: well....as you can see its a thing that nvidia has picked up really
[21:51] <limac> anyone here tried kubuntu hardy, if yes how is it?
[22:25] <henrix> hi! I am having a crash of lilypond. anyone that can help?
[22:25] <henrix> there is a message: "lilypond: Symbol `scm_i_freelist' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking"
[23:23] <shirish> hi all, after running today's updates, I am not able to use power management as in I put the display to sleep when inactive for 2 minutes & it doesn't do it, any ideas anybody?