[00:33] Someone knows how to put this two lines working wish dash.. it has bashism [00:33] $(INSTALL_FILE) objmon/talk/[^a]* $(DESTDIR)/var/games/mordor/sample/objmon/talk/ [00:33] $(INSTALL_FILE) objmon/[^dt]* $(DESTDIR)/var/games/mordor/sample/objmon/ [00:34] the [^a] and [^dt^] [00:34] [^dt]* [00:34] filenames that start with "a" and "dt", right ? [00:35] I think it's the other way around [00:35] Filenames that *don't* start with 'a' or 'dt' [00:35] ^ inverts the check. [00:35] d or t, not dt [00:36] ah ok [00:36] there is some way to do that reg expression in dash ? [00:36] grep [00:37] And it's a bit ... special [00:37] I thought I'd seen some of those just replacing ^ with ! and that working, but my memory of that is a bit foggy. [00:38] You're less than 20, your memory isn't allowed to be foggy [00:38] hehe [00:38] thanks for the help [00:40] * StevenK kicks filterdiff [00:40] Please filter stuff, kthxbye [00:43] StevenK: lol [00:45] * Fujitsu lowers some clouds onto StevenK. [00:46] On the other hand, I have plenty of reasons why my memory should be foggy [00:47] You'd think filterdiff -x '.svn' diff > diff.1 would just DTRT [00:48] Please give me any feedback on my package malbolge ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=malbolge ) [00:48] I want to get it really shiny before next Monday. === \sh is now known as \sh_away [01:02] xulrunner bugreport filed. === Spec is now known as x-spec-t [01:04] SnackPack, yes [01:10] nenolod: what #? [01:23] SnackPack, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/179031 [01:23] Launchpad bug 179031 in ia32-libs "lib32/libSDL depends on old libraries and needs to be rebuilt" [Undecided,New] [01:24] it's a critical bug [01:24] for people using 32-bit apps in a 64-bit userland [01:37] * txwikinger wonders how to patch a cdbs tarball.mk package === bigon is now known as bigon` [02:13] Heya gang [02:13] Hey bddebian. [02:13] Hi Fujitsu [02:14] Good $TIMEOFDAY bddebian. [02:15] on advice of my lawyer, I have no comment on any claims regarding membership in any "gang" [02:16] Hi RAOF [02:18] slangasek: Sure you are you elitist DD jerk.. ;-P [02:18] isn't MOTU a gang ? [02:18] Man that's open for a CoC violation :) [02:19] the first rule of MOTU is that you don't talk about MOTU [02:19] hah [02:20] same apply to mafias [02:21] MOTU == mafia? :) [02:21] * RAOF should start charging protection money or features of Miro might get "accidentally" disabled. [02:21] "elitist DD jerk"? "CoC violation"? what is this, an Overfiend summoning spell? [02:22] haha :-) [02:22] the second rule of MOTU is that you should ignore lines from bddebian which end with a smiley [02:22] Where has he been anyway?\ [02:22] Oh ouch.. [02:22] Damn, azeem you won't even let me have any "fun" here? Sheesh [02:23] Overfiend talked in #d for a bit on the weekend [02:23] he has been in Indiana, and possibly in other places [02:23] Anyone feel like taking a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=hardware-connected? :-) (A program that checks whether given hardware is connected, useful for scripting) [02:24] Should I feel slighted that I did a lot of work on a Debian package and didn't even get a ChangeLog mention? :0) [02:24] if feeling slighted makes you happier [02:25] otherwise, I generally don't advise it [02:26] ion_: sorry, no time to look at it in detail, but I'm curious - why would you need a package to check for whether hardware is connected, what does this give you that a three-line script to look under /sys does not? [02:32] slangasek: A nicer interface than NIHing the three-line function over and over again. :-) [02:33] hum, ok [02:33] AFAIK the only remaining issue with the package was that its Vcs-* pointed to a private repository. That has been fixed. [02:33] I have trouble applying the term "NIH" to anything that trivial [02:43] * bddebian starts on build 94 of newpki-client [02:44] slangasek: E.g. hardware-connected -m 8139too is IMHO nicer (and also more efficient) than something like modinfo -F alias 8139too | while read alias; do find /sys/devices -name modalias | while read file; do read line <$file; case "$line" in $alias) echo yes; break; esac; done; done [02:50] ion_: hum, is that any different than the much shorter find /sys/devices/ -name driver| xargs -n1 readlink | xargs -n1 basename | grep -q 8139too? [02:51] I think what he's getting at is he wants to make something like this easier for novice scripters [02:51] Hobbsee: ping [02:51] (though that's inexact, why use basename without also anchoring your grep) [02:51] LaserJock: pong [02:51] SnackPack: I'm just asking whether there's a difference between those two usages [02:51] slangasek: I don’t think that works when querying whether e.g. something compatible with a certain driver in /usr/share/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.24-2-generic/modules.alias.override/nvidia [02:52] slangasek: not sure [02:53] hardware-connected would be handy for picking the newest possible proprietary nVidia driver for your hardware on startup. [02:58] ok, so for cases where you're trying to search /sys for things that don't match to loaded drivers, sure [02:59] did someone knows if there is a way to chat with the amazon support center? [03:00] ...way offtopic there [03:02] Gahh! [03:02] checking for 64bit platform... yes -> disabling GtkHTML2 [03:04] Hobbsee: yep, sorry, i'm a little desperate [03:07] StevenK: Niiice. [03:08] Now I have to link against firefox [03:09] What's wrong with xulrunner? [03:10] xulrunner and firefox are mutally exclusive, no? [03:11] I thought we were moving to xulrunner-1.9 wherever possible. [03:11] Which requires porting work [03:11] (And a 50Kb patch, last time I did it) [03:36] mruiz: I'd probably try for a SRU rather than a backport for a FTBFS. Also, this is a good example why asking the channel generally is preferable. [03:36] txwikinger: cdbs-edit-patch helps [03:36] hi persia [03:37] I am reading up on that.. :( [03:37] :D [03:39] Hm, Firefox 3 is looking nice. [03:39] persia: hi [03:39] hi LaserJock txwikinger [03:39] Particularly with the sane-looking tabs. [03:41] LaserJock: PONIES! [03:42] * Fujitsu wonders why Firefox 3 seems to have gone all strange and now uses proper GTK icons and the like. [03:44] % grep -c 'warning: ' links2/current [03:44] 19485 [03:44] *Twitch* === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [03:57] ah works... just need to create the patch correctly :) [03:59] * txwikinger needs to get sleep... good night [04:15] herm what would be the equiv to self.listWidget_2.addItems(sections['main'][*].keys()) [04:15] Fujitsu: ^^ oops wrong window === awen_ is now known as a === a is now known as awen_ [04:58] I'm back at home, so I can now be reached at this nick again. [04:59] persia: re your comment about SRU versus backport to fix an FTBFS... Definitely. [05:00] ScottK: Well, it depends. If the FTBFS was fixed by a new upstream version, I'm not sure it's right. Needs some investigation and thought. [05:01] Backports isn't for fixing SRU worthy bugs. FTBFS would fit in that catagory. If it's FTBFS, it's not like the SRU has a regression risk. [05:03] Hmm... I usually think in terms of feature stability rather than regression risk, but I suppose you're right. [05:04] The only place I can think of where a backport would be appropriate is if some other lib that didn't FTBFS needed to be upgraded too to make the new one work. [05:04] That would mean backporting the entire rdepends set, no? [05:05] Yes. [05:05] Which is unpleasant, but allowable. [05:05] I'm waiting for my libclamav3 transition to age a bit in Hardy before I give that exact thing a shot. [05:05] Good to know. I thought the backporters team didn't like to update libraries. [05:05] Don't like to. [05:06] Sometimes it's the right thing to do. [05:06] Ah. "Don't like to" != "Doesn't". I understand now. [05:06] libclamav is a good example. [05:06] You pretty much have to stay current. [05:06] otherwise it screams at you [05:06] heheh [05:07] From the discussion during the gutsy cycle, I thought upstream was willing to play nicely for future releases. [05:07] It's not the screaming. It's eventually no updates and no security fixes. [05:07] You also have to stay current with ion3, or its author switches to a non-free license. Oh, wait. He already did. :-P [05:07] ion_: Rather, you need to not include snapshots of ion in a distribution. [05:08] persia: For clamav, their perspective is they don't understand why you don't just run the current release. [05:08] ScottK: They still don't understand releases? Annoying that. [05:08] sounds like adobe [05:08] hehe [05:08] Their view is version < 1.0, so they can do whatever they want. [05:09] At least with clamav you get source so we can patch all the older releases. [05:09] Speaking of which ... [05:09] Hrm. Maybe they are saying "don't include it", but that's just non-ideal. [05:09] imbrandon: Did you ever finish looking at the backport for clamav from gutsy-security to feisty-backports? [05:10] ScottK: yes i did, looks ok [05:10] persia: I think they're more narrowly saying don't whine to us about it. [05:11] imbrandon: Would you mark it in progress and subscribe the archive then? Bug #177537 [05:11] Launchpad bug 177537 in clamav "Remote Code Execution" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177537 [05:11] I'd do it, but I haven't built it on Feisty myself. [05:11] ahh thought i had [05:11] will do [05:13] ScottK: hrm [05:13] * minghua looks at #176994 and decides to steer away from it... [05:13] they are all marked fixed [05:13] LP still doesn't support bug blocking, does it? [05:14] minghua: Not yet... [05:15] I don't think there is any package in universe sponsoring queue that I'm familiar enough to help. [05:15] imbrandon: Thanks. [05:15] hi guys [05:16] * Fujitsu looks at bug #95419, and points minghua to comment annoyedly on it. [05:16] Launchpad bug 95419 in malone "Record dependencies between bugs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95419 [05:16] Hey jcastro. [05:16] heya jcastro [05:16] is there a java pro in the house? [05:16] minghua: That's sort of the issue. When the queue is smaller, one of the regular sponsors tends to get the harder ones. As the queue has seen about 75 submissions processed in the last 24 hours, there's a few left. [05:17] jcastro: There's at least a number of amateurs. What's the issue? [05:17] persia: Right. But I just got your email asking for sponsoring help... [05:17] persia: I've got some guys on the netbeans team that want netbeans6 in for hardy [05:17] Fujitsu: Thanks for the bug pointer. [05:17] jcastro: OK. We can do that. [05:18] persia: from my limited experience I can tell that there will be some issues [05:18] so I'd like to find someone patient. :D [05:18] jcastro: What's the current status? I remember there being a couple members of that team working on 5.5 for gutsy. Are they having issues with the update? [05:18] well, 5.5 was in multiverse [05:18] but they want it in universe [05:18] but they have a list of libraries that they uploaded as binaries last time [05:18] jcastro: multiverse -> universe is just a matter of dependencies / build-dependencies and licensing. [05:19] they'd like to do source uploads this time. [05:19] Err, binary uploads aren't possible. [05:19] they didn't want to maintain a bunch of libs last time [05:19] Fujitsu: Well, for Java multiverse, they are, but that's a different issue. [05:19] so they just did a bunch of .jars in multiverse [05:19] Who let them in last time? [05:19] but this time around they'd like to do it right [05:19] And why weren't they... educated? [05:20] jcastro: Does it work with system libraries? Last I knew, there were a lot of local patches to libraries in netbeans. [05:20] Ah, I see. [05:20] Fujitsu: I had a phone conference with them, they just need to be taught. [05:20] they're not like, dumb [05:20] they just don't know. [05:21] persia: yeah, I think there are, but I don't know enough about the subject to know for sure, which is why I was asking [05:21] jcastro: I was also questioning the sponsor. [05:21] they were planning on doing their first cut at packaging this month [05:21] jcastro: who's your contact there? I'm not deeply familiar with Java packaging, but have a personal interest in NetBeans, and am fairly familiar with our guidelines. [05:21] so I wanted to see if I could link them up with someone [05:21] persia: sec, looking it up [05:23] persia: arseniy kuznetsov, Marek Slama, and Petr Hrebejk [05:24] http://wiki.netbeans.org/wiki/view/SmallNbForLinuxPackaging [05:24] these are the libraries they need [05:24] jcastro: OK. I was working with Marek for 5.5 to get the copyright file fixed. I'll poke over there to see if I can help. Is there an upgrade bug already? [05:25] not afaik [05:25] there's a launchpad page, but it's by a guy I don't know, doesn't appear to be upstream [05:25] persia: I plan on having another phone conference with them soonish, would if be ok if I brought you onboard for it? [05:25] jcastro: LP has an annoying limitation that every upstream has to also be registered as an LP project, so you'll see a lot of that. [05:26] jcastro: Depends on time of day and technology, but sure. [05:26] well, Sun does the conf call so they schedule it around our schedules and such [05:26] persia: can you shoot me your mail? [05:41] dum de dum [05:42] jcastro: btw i got in touch with Zonker today [05:42] imbrandon: and ... ? [05:43] i'm gonna be doing a piece on OpenChange and LDAP , soonish [05:43] mid feb i think, he is shooting me the details tomarrow [05:44] imbrandon: dude hot action. [05:44] :) [05:44] I hope he can come to the next UDS or ubuntu live. [05:44] he always walks around and is like "link me up with interesting people for interviews." [05:44] yea, has he been to one since Califorina ? [05:45] CA was his first one, so he was real shy [05:45] yea [05:45] next time around we'll bounce him around like a cheap doll [05:45] i talked to him a little bit, he tried to get me on camera heheh, i let Sebas do it [05:45] imbrandon: he's a big ohiolinux guy too (one of the planners), so make it to that. [05:45] nice [05:45] though he lives in denver or something [05:46] i have 4 planned this year [05:46] yea denver [05:46] pengicon, UDS, Ubuntu Live and SCALE [05:46] penguicon* [05:46] i never spell that right [05:47] scale sounds like fun. [05:47] imbrandon: I hear jono is keynotting this year [05:47] yea, it looked like a blast last year, thus i put it on for this year [05:47] he is ? killer [05:48] one of the planners, Ilan, was at ubuntu live [05:48] good people [05:48] make sure you link up with him [05:48] he is an penguicon too right ? Ubuntu Rockstars everywhere [05:48] s/an/at [05:49] Ilan? I don't think so. [05:49] Jono yeah [05:49] no jono [05:49] yea [05:49] Mako too [05:49] and xkcd guy [05:49] Ilan, i have heard that name somewhere [05:49] and dibona and leslie from google [05:50] you remember leslie right? [05:50] leslie!, thats my chick [05:50] yup yup [05:50] word [05:50] i have talked to her email a few times, when i was job hunting [05:50] since UDS [05:50] ah [05:50] I could never work @ google [05:50] can't handle the math [05:50] heh [05:50] I would last 5 seconds in an interview [05:51] i got through 2 of them, then decided not to schedule a 3rd, it was above my league [05:51] it's ok [05:51] my friend went through _7_ [05:51] atleaste what i was interviewing for [05:51] wow [05:52] imbrandon: we should ask zonker if he's coming to penguicon [05:52] yea totaly, i bet he is [05:53] it'd be kickass to have him cover the -mi team's packaging jam [05:53] if not he should [05:53] and have you MOTUs there [05:53] yea i posted on my new years resolution about a PackageJam here in KC and 3 people i have never even heard of ( even via the lug ) emailed saying "when?" hehe [05:53] so i got to get that done this month [05:54] i was like wow there is ubuntu people in KC that arent part of the local lug [05:54] i think it will go over well [05:58] jcastro: from rumors ( and some of his comics ) i hear the xkcd guy is a Ubunut Fan [05:58] Ubuntu* [05:59] he is [05:59] http://www.xkcd.com/364/ is my personal fav ( other than "sudo make me a sandwitch" ) [05:59] those stories are best told over beers though [05:59] gotta help a neighbor plow his driveway [05:59] bbl [05:59] l8tr [06:36] hmm, opensuse 10.3 really improved over the betas [06:39] hmm, and they use package deltas for updates [06:39] yea they have done that for a long time === Ibalon is now known as zakame [07:09] Is rmadison terribly slow for anyone else today? [07:10] persia: shouldent it run on your local system ? [07:10] imbrandon: I thought the r in rmadison was for remote. For local, I always use apt-cache madison. My "local" mirror is actually a couple kilometers from here. [07:11] err i was thinking rdepends ( as in reverse ) , never mind, its late [07:12] imbrandon: Shouldn't it be "early" by now :P [07:12] heh yea [07:12] im all screwy lately [07:12] That's what you get for pretending to be diurnal over the holidays. [07:12] figuring out python ALOT better though ( no small thanks to Fujitsu ) [07:13] It's only 1 a.m., I'd say late. [07:13] :) [07:13] persia: rmadison is reasonably fast here. [07:13] * persia doesn't really track differences in north american timezones well [07:13] minghua: Maybe just me then. Thanks. [07:13] yea 1am here [07:13] 1:13 [07:14] * minghua knows imbrandon and he are in the same timezone. [07:14] minghua: ahh really? [07:14] BTW grammar question, is it "imbrandon and he", or "he and imbrandon", or both are okay? [07:14] imbrandon: Yes, I'm in Houston. [07:15] cool [07:15] * imbrandon is not the best person to be asking grammar [07:15] minghua: both are acceptable, although the former is preferred, as it gives precedent to the other party, so is more polite. [07:15] s/precedent/precedence/ [07:16] * persia decides that upstreams that don't bother with ChangeLog don't get DIF exceptions without someone else investigating it. === tritium_ is now known as tritium === asac_ is now known as asac [07:31] elkbuntu, i'm sorry if you took my comment the wrong way on #178888; there were some people getting off into topics not directly related to the bug :) [07:35] * persia enjoys the use of bug reportsas discussion threads, and considers advocating the complete replacement of mailing lists [07:35] nenolod, no worries. however please realise that the PC stuff, as annoying as it can be, contributes to the general atmosphere of the community. If we can do anything to equalise the male:female ratio then it will be beneficial in terms of user (and contributor) base. [07:35] nenolod, tbh, caroline's response annoyed me way more than yours anyway [07:37] elkbuntu, caroline's response is wtf [07:37] elkbuntu, i think that it's inappropriate for software error messages to use slang in general [07:37] * persia points at the wtf application [07:37] nenolod, agreed, and it's even more wtf when you consider her history with ubuntu [07:38] i think someone reporting it as a "sexist remark" is a little over the top, but that's life [07:38] if it makes nmap guys stop acting like kids in their code, then more power to them though [07:38] nenolod, it was, however refusing to accept that anyone had an issue with it is wrong [07:39] due to nmap's messages, a lot of people feel that it's a script kiddie app [07:39] elkbuntu, yeah [07:39] elkbuntu, never should somebody talk in literals when describing a group of people ;) [07:40] persia, yeah. just make a virtual package in ubuntu called "talk-about-random-crap" and replace ubuntu-users list with that [07:41] with launchpad bugmail it'll be like nothing changed [07:41] ;) [07:41] nenolod: Actually, the use of virtual packages makes sense. Creating a new bug creates a new mailing list / forum thread. People can subscribe to the virtual package to subscribe to those items. [07:42] The only issue is when the bug gets "closed". Perhaps when each raised issue has been discussed and resolved, someone closes it. [07:42] persia, yep, and as a plus, it means bugs will actually make it past someone's whinge on a busy conglomerated list [07:43] this is a great idea [07:43] * persia especially likes the possibility of declaring some person's post to be "Invalid". [07:43] however it would become equally unmanagable if you didnt take out the questions like 'how to i find my ip address' or 'how do i add a new user' [07:43] LP should just reuse the malone code and develop a mailing-list-alternative. :-) [07:43] elkbuntu: That's what the "Convert to a Question" feature is desiged to support. [07:43] persia: I like that. [07:44] minghua: It's getting mailman support, unfortunately :( [07:44] Fujitsu: Oh. :-(, too. [07:44] elkbuntu, i thought #ubuntu was for that [07:44] Further, if we could set up a forums-like UI in parallel, we could merge all the forums stuff. Be nice to see forums workarounds in proper, addressable, bug reports. [07:44] nenolod, no, that's for trolls to scream abuse at ops for banning them from offtopic ;) [07:44] elkbuntu, that's abus as in "a bus" [07:45] remember, trolls are illiterate [07:45] and they go around calling everyone names [07:45] persia, i havent used LP much lately, out of touch with all the new features [07:45] elkbuntu: See. That's another argument for integration. [07:45] elkbuntu: Hahahahahahahaha new features in LP? [07:46] LP has new features? [07:46] Fujitsu, surely something's changed in the past 5 months [07:46] I thought the build number is generated with rand(). [07:46] :D [07:47] i wish launchpad was opensource [07:47] malone is a very nice bugtracker [07:48] Mhm. [07:50] hmm, actually, really, that malone as a general messaging platform really does make sense [07:50] now all we need to do is get sabdfl to sign off on it [07:50] and the rest will just happen ;) [07:50] this channel scares me sometimes! [07:50] Whenever I'm on ubuntuforums.org, I keep looking for the status column. [07:51] Fujitsu, to mark posts as invalid? [07:51] :D [07:51] Yeah, or incomplete. [07:51] me too, and then i find myself disappointed when there isn't a status column ;p [07:52] I'm more interested in avoiding bug reporting to MLs or forums, and integrating everything, rather than the fun of the status column. [07:53] If you don't have mailing list or forum, you need a triaging team constantly dealing with "my system is broken!!!" bug reports. [07:54] minghua, nono. the idea is to turn the bug tracker into also a forums system and mailing list by using virtual packages and a pretty UI on top [07:54] ;) [07:54] minghua: How is that different from the current situation? [07:54] yeah, that too [07:54] i get tons of bugs assigned to ubuntu-audio that are invalid [07:55] kinda makes me wonder where the users get their drugs from time to time some of the bug reports i have read [07:55] :P [07:55] nenolod: Likely the triagers can't evaluate that. At least they trim the truly bad before assigning the team. [07:55] persia, i'm thankful for that [07:55] :D [07:55] persia: Not really to me. But the bug triaging team probably see it differently. [07:56] the bug triaging team is one that takes a lot of abuse i imagine [07:56] emotional abuse? mental abuse? probably both. [07:56] nenolod: I know. I sort of like the idea, too. I was just commenting on persia's "avoiding bug reporting to ML or forums" point. [07:56] minghua: Depends. If the forums moderators and supporters, and the active support people on ubuntu-users@ joined the triagers ranks, I'm not sure it would be all bad. Plus, ubuntu-bugs@ shouldn't be the bug contact for these virtual packages. [07:57] launchpad answers is already based on malone anyway AFAIK [07:57] wow, someone said "forums" , thats my queue to goto sleep :) [07:58] persia: My gut feeling is that is will be a big change for not much practical gain. [07:58] minghua, the practical gain would be being able to rate threads ;) [07:58] "Invalid", or if you really want to confuse someone, "Fix Released" [07:59] minghua: I think the gain would be 1) "Convert to a Question", 2) forums workarounds in bug reports to help get towards a solution, 3) everyone working on the same target, 4) no more bugs being forgotten because they were only posted to a mailing list. [07:59] rember not all forum activity is bug reports or support issues, alot of social behavure happens there too ( not that i personaly partake, but it does ) [08:00] where as "Invalid" means: "your thread sucks, please fix it and come back later, and "Incomplete" means: please add more detail. this thread is boring. [08:00] nenolod: does that mean i get a "TLDR" status on malone ? [08:00] persia: Yeah, I agree being able to convert a discussion thread to something else (question, formal bug report, etc.) is a plus, but I don't see it a big gain. [08:00] imbrandon, what is TLDR? [08:01] nenolod: TOO LONG DIDENT READ, my fav thread anwser [08:01] imbrandon, yeah probably [08:01] * minghua foresees LP status ping-pong. [08:01] minghua: I just see lots of duplicate conversations with people missing things between the mailing lists, the forums, and bugs. [08:01] minghua, launchpad crashing because the thread was too bad? [08:01] :D [08:01] imbrandon: Don't complain about that, or I'll start sending you personal mail :P [08:01] heh [08:02] "I refuse to process this. It's too stupid. throw(Exception)" [08:02] raise TooStupidError [08:02] yeah [08:02] throw(pbkac) === doko_ is now known as doko === apachelogger__ is now known as apachelogger [08:03] Problem Between Keyboard and Chair [08:03] * minghua never gets the PBKAC metaphor. [08:03] Shouldn't the torso be there, instead of the head? [08:03] minghua: e.g. an idiot, the person between the keyboard and the chair [08:04] Okay. Person. [08:04] there's also ID10T errors [08:04] ;) [08:04] Cultural differences, I suppose. Chinese seldom refers a person as a problem. [08:05] hehe :) [08:05] minghua: Yes. Difference between redemption and forgiveness. Blame Peter. [08:06] minghua: btw i'm curious now that you said your in the states , why are you here? family? school? job? non_of_my_business? hehe ( not that it matters one bit, just curious ) [08:06] imbrandon: School, graduate student at Rice. But I suppose non_of_your_business too... :-P [08:07] hehe [08:08] okies yall, i'm falling asleep at the keyboard, gnight [08:08] whose mruiz? [08:08] * persia waits for mdczzbjljk tlaw4 [08:08] i bumped audacious and audacious-plugins in debian, all he needs to do is merge them [08:08] :s [08:09] nenolod: mruiz seems to be active starting in 3-5 hours most days. [08:09] well [08:09] nenolod: You could also merge them, if you like :) What's the remaining variance? [08:09] i'm just curious on how he intends to solve the bump requests, as i could do it in just a few minutes ;) [08:09] persia, our patches are for pulseaudio integration [08:10] nenolod: Ah. Yes. Can't adopt that. [08:10] nenolod, lamont already made it known how he feels: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nmap/+bug/178888/comments/4 [08:10]