[00:00] <Creed> Phusion, there are some things that only come in RPM's...not even source code :) Ill take my chances with alien, and if it blows up, its a simple VM-delete changes and im back to how everthing was before.
[00:00] <Malik__> alrite iam at the ubuntu menu
[00:00] <Malik__> wat do i do
[00:00] <mk> Kevin`, windows disallows mirroring on non-servers, apparently. What do you suggest? I'd rather switch after getting this working on windows
[00:00] <Malik__> t get rid of xp home
[00:00] <Phusion> oic
[00:01] <nicholas> What do you people think of the idea of free brain enhancement software? (which would enhance reading and imaging speed, memory, and cognitive performance overall)
[00:01] <nicholas> Similar to Eye Q, but free.
[00:01] <Kevin`> mk you want to dualboot windows while using this? get it working then I suppose. use dmraid for bios raid in linux, I suspect the installer will detect it but im not sure
[00:01] <Kevin`> (dmraid != md raid)
[00:01] <Creed> ln -s /location/to/orignal/file /location/to/symbolic/link is how on does symlinks right?
[00:02] <Malik__> wat do i do from here i botted the linux cd
[00:02] <Malik__> live cd*
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik__: click on start or install to get to the live desktop  it will NOT install until you click install on the desktop icon that says install.. so dont do that..
[00:02] <undertakingyou> Creed: yes, that is how
[00:02] <ravun_> I'm ussing irssi, anyone know how to quit just one channel without quitting irssi completely (/quit)?
[00:02] <Malik__> install in text mode or oed install or install comand line system?
[00:02] <Creed> undertakingyou, hmm...Installed eggdrop and it installed fine, running ./eggdrop -v says error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:02] <murf3326> I know I probably just missed it but is there a webpage describing the different versions of buntu?
[00:03] <Malik__> oem install*
[00:03] <nicholas> If you want any more details, send me a private message.
[00:03] <ravun_> oem install
[00:03] <jeff__> how do I install flash?
[00:03] <dsnyders> Is there a tool for converting duplicate files into links to a single file?
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff__: Flash is still broken
[00:03] <Creed> undertakingyou, I created a symlink to libtcl8.5.so to /usr/lib/libtcl.so
[00:03] <jeff__> Jack, how can I just get it to work until its fixd?
[00:04] <Creed> undertakingyou, ln -s /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.5.so /usr/lib/libtcl.so to be exact
[00:04] <Phusion> lol
[00:04] <Phusion> I think I'm using gnash
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff__: There is a workaround.. but.. it may mess things up when the real fix is released.
[00:04] <Malik__> which install >>install text mode<<<  >>OEM install<<
[00:04] <undertakingyou> creed, that should work, or add the first location to the shared library path.
[00:04] <ravun_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3
[00:04] <Malik__> which install do i do on ubuntu live cd text mode install or OEM install???
[00:05] <ravun_> would help with flash I've been told
[00:05] <jeff__> Jack_Sparrow, do you know of any estimate to when the thing will be released?
[00:05] <ravun_> OEM install
[00:05] <linuxpoet> anyone here have a tmobile wing?
[00:05] <ravun_> what version did you DL malik?
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff__: Nope... If you gotta have it.. make a backup.. I know lots of people are trying to fix it..
[00:05] <Malik__> dl?
[00:05] <WinterWeaver> I killed my OpenBox menu by running 'nautilus' ... :( ... how can I fix it?
[00:05] <ravun_> you downloaded 7.10?
[00:05] <Nani-> hi,can i make private and ask
[00:05] <Malik__> yea the new 1
[00:05] <Malik__> i jus downloaded yesterday
[00:06] <Malik__> on the ubuntu site
[00:06] <jeff__> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[00:06] <Malik__> so OEM install?
[00:06] <Nani-> hi,can i make private and ask somebody?
[00:07] <ChrisAshton84> does anyone know what would cause a remote executable in a dir mounted with sshfs to return "Permission denied" when I try to run it?  It's permissions show up as -rwxr-xr-x
[00:07] <u_angel> guys, what is the config file under gutsyG to give permsion to a user to be able to mount a 2nd hd i have
[00:07] <Creed> undertakingyou, how would I go about adding it to the shared library path?
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np  let me know if you need a fix
[00:07] <jeff__> can someone help me troubleshoot my sound issue?
[00:07] <ChrisAshton84> I have a feeling it's gotta be an ubuntu system setting but google and the forums have been no help
[00:08] <Beetle_> All this software is sweet...what's your favorite rpg in the standard repositories?
[00:08] <Creed> ChrisAshton84, are the group permissions correct?
[00:08] <jeff__> I have the slightest bit of sound through the headphones
[00:08] <Malik__> this is so confusing after i boot live cd cna some1 veriy i go on OEM install
[00:08] <Malik__> cause it says for manufactures bedie it
[00:08] <Malik__> beside*
[00:08] <Creed> Malik__, are you planning on distrubuting the system to lots of other users afterwards?
[00:09] <Malik__> no
[00:09] <Malik__> sry
[00:09] <Creed> Malik__, go with a normal install then.
[00:09] <ravun_> he just wants to run the live cd
[00:09] <ravun_> should be the first option
[00:09] <Bluesoul> greetz lads
[00:09] <Yv12345vY> greetings
[00:09] <ChrisAshton84> the owner and group are daemon daemon
[00:09] <Malik__> there is no normal iinstall there
[00:09] <uyu> microsoft pwnes you
[00:09] <uyu> nerds
[00:09] <Bluesoul> Y'know we hate so say that but...
[00:09] <uyu> LOSERS!
[00:09] <ChrisAshton84> Creed: but on the remote system they're bin bin
[00:09] <uyu> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[00:09] <Bluesoul> Microsoft pwns you soo bad
[00:09] <patjuh> hello hello
[00:09] <uyu> SOOO BLOODY BAD!
[00:09] <mike4785> how do you get a dvd to work
[00:09] <Creed> invasion of the microsoftees?
[00:10] <uyu> Microsoft WILL OWN YOUR TINY NERD ARSES SOON!
[00:10] <Yv12345vY> mike4785, checkout getautomatix.com
[00:10] <uyu> suckers!
[00:10] <Malik__> creed where is normal install
[00:10] <patjuh> does anyone knows a simple dvd program for ubuntu?
[00:10] <r-wolf> Creed: troll party I'd say
[00:10] <mike4785> ive got amarok
[00:10] <Creed> Malik__, it should be the first install.
[00:10] <Creed> !automatix | Yv12345vY
[00:10] <ubotu> Yv12345vY: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[00:10] <Aoife> ChrisAshton84, type mount and check that it's not mounted "noexec"
[00:10] <Yv12345vY> ooooooops, sorry Creed
[00:10] <Kevin`> uyu yeah, yeah, microsoft already owns you though :)
[00:10] <uyu> :(
[00:10] <Creed> :)
[00:10] <patjuh> ?, i will look amarok, and read its content
[00:11] <ChrisAshton84> Creed: doh!  that shows it as being noexec though I didn't specify that in /etc/fstab
[00:11] <r-wolf> ubuntu 7.10, how do I set autostart for a gui application?
[00:11] <Creed> r-wolf, look under System > Administration (I believe) > Sessions
[00:11] <Yv12345vY> r-wolf, go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[00:11] <mattholimeau> what? no ipod channel?
[00:11] <mattholimeau> lame!
[00:11] <Creed> blah prefs :(
[00:11] <Yv12345vY> :-)
[00:11] <jeff__> Anyone have any tips for troubleshooting sound on my PCG-TR3A?
[00:11] <Malik__> is 3gb hd and 56 mb ram enoughf for linux...lol?
[00:11] <Yv12345vY> I had to double check
[00:12] <jeff__> I'm out of ideas
[00:12] <Creed> jeff__, have you checked the forums to see if others are having issues with the same card/chipset?
[00:12] <ravun_> Malik_ yes, but not ubuntu :D
[00:12] <Malik__> till i upgrade
[00:12] <Malik__> o
[00:12] <simmerz> I can't get dvd's to play. mplayer plays the intro "Universal" thing, but then gives me an end of file. xine plays the intro, but it looks corrupted, gxine refuses to load, vlc plays it corrupted too. but the dvd is fine in normal dvd players and on a windows box
[00:12] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, hardly for Ubuntu, maybe Xubuntu
[00:12] <Aoife> ChrisAshton84, Well, if you're using sshfs, it's probably done via FUSE (I don't have much experience with FUSE) but there may be some FUSE-related config file that will set that
[00:12] <r-wolf> Creed: mattholimeau: oh, I see, thanks
[00:12] <ravun_> you won't get far with the liveCD with 56 MB RAM
[00:12] <Yv12345vY> simmerz, check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_To_Add_DVD_Playback_Capability
[00:12] <Creed> Yv12345vY, Im on (shield your eyes) Vista at the moment, didnt feel like VNC'ing into my ubuntu box.
[00:12] <Malik__> how can i check wat kind of graphic card and soudn crad and stuf fi need for ubuntu
[00:12] <Yv12345vY> Creed, all this MS crap and you admit to it?
[00:13] <simmerz> Yv12345vY: I've done all that though!
[00:13] <Creed> Yv12345vY, Its for a client :( Repairing all the crap he has on it.
[00:13] <ChrisAshton84> Aoife, Creed: I just added exec to the options in /etc/fstab and it works!... guess it was default to be noexec, who'd have thought :-X
[00:13] <jeff__> Creed, other people are having issues.  but the one i found just like mine did not work for me, and there was another one, with no answer yet.
[00:13] <mneptok> Yv12345vY: please do not recommend Automatix or other such scripts.
[00:13] <kevin__> malik - go with nvidia or intel for a video card
[00:13] <Yv12345vY> mneptok, my bad
[00:13] <undertakingyou> Creed: edit the /etc/ld.so.conf and add that path.  Then run sudo ldconfig after it.
[00:13] <Malik__> wat version ?
[00:13] <kevin__> a decent coundcard would be a sound blaster live!
[00:14] <mike4785> Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because it does not have the appropriate plugins to be able to read from the disc.
[00:14] <ravun_> !dork
[00:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:14] <Aoife> ChrisAshton84, Cool! Glad it works. :)
[00:14] <Creed> ChrisAshton84, :) Glad you got it figured out.
[00:14] <mneptok> !dvd > mike4785
[00:14] <Yv12345vY> !dvd > Yv12345vY
[00:14] <mike4785> wats the easy way to get dvds' to play on ubuntu
[00:14] <Creed> jeff__, Have you tried the *ultimate* last attempt--compiling ALSA from source?
[00:15] <Creed> !dvd | mike4785
[00:15] <ubotu> mike4785: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:15] <Yv12345vY> mike4785, see your messages
[00:15] <jeff__> creed, I have not tried that, what information do you have on this?
[00:15] <Aoife> This is probably a weird cross-platform questions to ask... but does anyone know if there's a .reg comparator (i.e. windows registry file) for unix?
[00:16] <Creed> jeff__, for me (gasp) compiling from source has worked beautifully. There was a guide on the forums regarding alsa which listed as recompiling from source as the last option. Ill see if I can dig it up.
[00:16] <kitche> Aoife: nope but do you mean compareor or no?
[00:16] <Creed> Aoife, diff?
[00:16] <jeff__> thanks a ton creed
[00:16] <patjuh> i see AMAROK as a AUDIO player?, so it is not dvd?
[00:16] <Creed> Aoife, open up terminal and type "man diff"
[00:16] <kevin__> Malik - Were you asking me what version?
[00:16] <piovisqui> i need help. ubuntu was installed in my second partition. i use windows to format it to ntfs (ubuntu was crashed). the problem is that grub still thinks that ubuntu is installed and when try to read the info returns "Error". i want to restore the MBR just for boot windows
[00:16] <Creed> pat69a, Amarok is a multimedia player, it can play a variety of formats.
[00:17] <Aoife> Creed, I'd normally do that, but the formatting of a .reg file (or the ones I have sitting here) aren't text-based
[00:17] <mneptok> piovisqui: you want ##windows
[00:17] <piovisqui> Error 17
[00:17] <Creed> piovisqui, is it windows xp or vista?
[00:17] <Yv12345vY> piovisqui, fdisk /mbr
[00:17] <EduardoSal> good night girls
[00:17] <Creed> mneptok, no reason we cant help those wanting to go back to Windows :)
[00:17] <piovisqui> windows xp
[00:17] <telee> whats a good music player... banshee and amarok wont play sound
[00:17] <telee> xmms will though
[00:17] <|ns|nR8> Creed, boot from windows cd, hit 'r' for repair and type 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr'
[00:17] <patjuh> creed?,, does i need to install multiply codecs, or is it automatic ; sort like that
[00:17] <Creed> piovisqui, what |ns|nR8 said :)
[00:17] <kevin__> Piov you can boot with a windows 98 boot disk and type fdisk /mbr
[00:18] <mneptok> Creed: except that it mat detract from helping people that want to use the software that's in the name of the channel ;)
[00:18] <Yv12345vY> telee, xmms is my favorite
[00:18] <Malik__> u guys i ran the live cd and iam at the partition menu
[00:18] <mneptok> *may
[00:18] <kevin__> Please come back to linux though soon :)
[00:18] <Fyda> telee: Define "good"? I mean, what kind of features do you want/need?
[00:18] <and2> someone give me a hand with compiz ?
[00:18] <Malik__> can u help me with the porblem now
[00:18] <Creed> pat69a, I think it should ask you to install mroe codecs when you try to play something ti cant.
[00:18] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, sorry but I didn't get your problem before
[00:18] <Creed> and2, try #ubuntu-effects
[00:18] <telee> fyda: i want to have all my music visible and a search function
[00:18] <Fyda> and2: What are you having problems with? If it's compiz-specific you might be better off asking in #compiz-fusion
[00:18] <telee> ipod capabilities would be ncie
[00:18] <patjuh> ok, thanx
[00:18] <kevin__> Yeha Malik what is the problem
[00:18] <telee> but ill just use my mac if not
[00:18] <patjuh> it is for dvd playback
[00:18] <Yv12345vY> telee, have you tried Rhythmbox?
[00:18] <patjuh> original dvd
[00:19] <Fyda> telee: Hmm, Rhythmbox?
[00:19] <Creed> mneptok, thats not the true OS spirit :( We should be willing to help all, not just what the name of the channel says.
[00:19] <Malik__> well i the problem is i want linux
[00:19] <mneptok> telee: are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[00:19] <Malik__> but rite now i hav 2 xps on 1 computer
[00:19] <Malik__> pro and home
[00:19] <mneptok> Creed: "willing" and "able" arer not the same thing.
[00:19] <kevin__> oh ok do you want us to help you partition your drive?
[00:19] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, are you having problems partitioning?  I just resized and it worked great
[00:19] <Malik__> and i wanan get rid of home to put linux there after
[00:19] <Fyda> telee: Rhythmbox has iPod syncing capabilities and it can scan your music directory for new/updated files
[00:19] <kevin__> and get you going with installation?
[00:19] <Malik__> wait listen
[00:19] <telee> thanks
[00:19] <kevin__> OK
[00:19] <tuntun> telee: amoraK works with ipods
[00:19] <mneptok> Creed: people asking Windows questions on release day with 2000 people in the channel for Ubuntu help is ... not good.
[00:19] <Malik__> i wanan get rid of xp home but i donot nkow which partition its installe din
[00:20] <Malik__> installed in*
[00:20] <Creed> Malik__, which did you install first, pro or home?
[00:20] <Creed> mneptok, its release day?!
[00:20] <Aoife> It's release day?
[00:20] <telee> tuntun, yeah that wont play any music... it seems like it plays but no sound comes out
[00:20] <Malik__> pro home pro
[00:20] <Malik__> lol..
[00:20] <kevin__> Hmmm.. Do you know what size it is in GB?
[00:20] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, boot into Windows (either one) and check out boot.ini on C:\. It may be hidden though but it'll tell you which installation is what.
[00:20] <Malik__> wat?
[00:20] <mneptok> ##windows exists for a reason, as does #ubuntu.
[00:21] <Creed> Malik__, do you know how big the hardrive (partition) for Pro or Home is?
[00:21] <mike4785> thanks
[00:21] <Malik__> lemme try yv12345's idea
[00:21] <Malik__> first then urs
[00:21] <patjuh> creed, i use Ubuntu 7.0 and installed it, can i use Amarok?
[00:21] <Malik__> but how do i get to boot.ini
[00:21] <kevin__> Yeha if you know the size for both then in the Ubuntu installation you would be able to distingush between them
[00:21] <Creed> patjuh, yup, its all in the repos.
[00:21] <Creed> !repo | patjuh
[00:21] <ubotu> patjuh: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:21] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, you'll have to boot into Windows and look
[00:22] <Task> I cant get my sound blaster auxiliry live card to work with linux.... well everything works except for the mic.... and suggestions?
[00:22] <ravun_> !uuid
[00:22] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[00:22] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, unless you're able to go to Places and then the C drive and then look from there
[00:22] <Task> !sound blaster
[00:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound blaster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <Creed> Malik__, boot into windows, open notepad, open a document in notepad, type C:\boot.ini
[00:22] <ravun_> malik, you running the liveCD now?
[00:22] <Malik__> k
[00:22] <mneptok> Task: "alsamixer" and unmute the mic
[00:22] <Malik__> and then?
[00:22] <Task> mneptok kk trying nwo
[00:22] <Task> now*
[00:22] <telee> anyone use songbird?
[00:23] <ravun_> Malik__: sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt  will create a text file with your partition info
[00:23] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, and it should say Windows Home and Windows Pro and tell you which one is first and such
[00:23] <AzMoo> Hey, does anybody know anything about ltsp? When I run ltsp-build-client with my mirrors, it works to begin with, but then later on it fails with a 404 in the repository. It looks to be adding an extra "ubuntu/" to the end of the url
[00:23] <mneptok> telee: are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[00:23] <kitche> telee: used to
[00:23] <telee> mythbuntu
[00:23] <telee> xfce
[00:23] <Nrbelex> What are linux-headers?
[00:23] <mneptok> telee: Rhythmbox?
[00:23] <Malik__> kk
[00:23] <Creed> huzzah! thanks undertakingyou that did it :)
[00:23] <AzMoo> Nrbelex: the header files for the kernel source.
[00:23] <simmerz> I've followed all the guides available for getting dvd's to play and it just won't happen. All the encrypted bits just stay encrypted. tried the medibuntu method too and that doesn't work either. what gives?
[00:23] <mneptok> Nrbelex: kernel header files for development
[00:23] <Yv12345vY> simmerz, have you tried more than one movie?
[00:23] <Creed> !dvd | simmerz
[00:24] <ubotu> simmerz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:24] <telee> mneptok, ?
[00:24] <Malik__> in my boot menus when i turn compuetr on xp pro is on the tom of xp home
[00:24] <Malik__> if that helps...
[00:24] <telee> is there an repository for rythmbox?
[00:24] <Nrbelex> AzMoo, mneptok, is there a simpler way of describing that?
[00:24] <simmerz> yep, none of them play if they've got encryption
[00:24] <mneptok> telee: have. you. tried. Rhythmbox? :)
[00:24] <LjL-Mobile> telee, rhythmbox is installed by default.
[00:24] <AzMoo> Nrbelex: no.
[00:24] <Vuen> hey guys, how do i get the current desktop session in bash? $DESKTOP_SESSION now simply says 'default' in gutsy, whereas it used to say 'kde'.
[00:24] <simmerz> Creed: I told you, I've tried ALL of the methods people keep pasting
[00:24] <Nrbelex> AzMoo, haha, k
[00:24] <Yv12345vY> Malik__, that should be first then, what partitions do you see in the installation screen?
[00:24] <telee> mneptok, no i havent
[00:24] <Daviey> simmerz: clearly it's not giving... what player are you using?
[00:24] <tuntun> I installed gutsy from cd yesterday and to my pleasant surprise there wasn't a whole slew of updates waiting for download. So are they doing regular updates to the iso now? I really hope so!
[00:24] <telee> LjL... no not w/ mythbuntu
[00:24] <Creed> Malik__, easiest way would be for you to look at boot.ini or put it on !pastebin and one of us can tell you which one to format.
[00:24] <telee> or atleast i dont see it
[00:25] <kevin__> Telee - If you want a newer version of ryhtmbox you can go to www.getdeb.net and download it
[00:25] <Malik__> alrite hold on iam going there
[00:25] <simmerz> Daviey: every player under the sun. xine, with any number of ui's, mplayer (again with different ui's), totem, vlc. none work
[00:25] <kevin__> be sure to slect your correct architecture though
[00:25] <LjL-Mobile> telee: then sudo apt-get install rhythmbox. of course it's in the repositories, it's acually in the "main" repository, like everything that's installed by default in [standard] Ubuntu
[00:25] <LjL-Mobile> tuntun: or perhaps the installation went slightly wrong and all your repositories are commented out :) check /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:25] <kevin__> *select
[00:26] <AzMoo> Nrbelex: ;) header files are used in programming to describe the code. The kernel headers are the header files for the core (kernel) of the system.
[00:26] <telee> LjL-Mobile, lol i did that and it didnt work... but i just copied yours and it did
[00:26] <telee> hmm
[00:26] <krim> telee: It's rhythmbox, not rythmbox
 Why did you have to ruin it!!!
[00:26] <Aoife> Creed, by the way, thanks diff -au more or less does the job (I didn't think it would as it initially looked like a binary file)
[00:26] <Nrbelex> AzMoo, thanks
[00:26] <telee> kevin__, thanks ill check that out
[00:26] <jeff__> creed.  I know some ubuntu fans at work, I think I will just bring this into them and see if they can get things rolling for me.
[00:26] <jakel1> where is the splash screen settings in Ubuntu 7.10?
[00:26] <jeff__> thanks again for your help
[00:26] <LjL-Mobile> kevin__: i'd be careful with that sort of advice. does he actually want or need a newer version, and is he prepared for the breakage that it might cause?
[00:26] <kevin__> No problem :)
[00:26] <Creed> Aoife, yup :) diff has helped me in a crunch on numerous occasions.
[00:26] <LjL-Mobile> tuntun: sorry :)
[00:26] <Thomas1> hi
[00:26] <mike4785> still doesn't work... lol
[00:26] <Creed> jeff__, yeah, I gave up for two months trying to get mine to work heh
[00:27] <simmerz> Daviey: any other suggestions?
[00:27] <Aoife> Creed, normally it's the first thing I turn to, but after seeing a few pages of binary in less I thought it wasn't going to work.
[00:27] <LjL-Mobile> telee: the letter H isn't optional
[00:27] <Yv12345vY> jakel1, System -> Administration -> Login window
[00:27] <ari_stress> morning, happy new year everyone :D
[00:27] <Yv12345vY> ari_stress, happy new year
[00:27] <jakel1> ah
[00:27] <jakel1> thanx Yv12345vY
[00:27] <telee> LjL-Mobile, lol wow so true
[00:27] <Daviey> simmerz: It would seem that the CSS 'example' script isn't actually running - have you tried running it from source?
[00:27] <telee> thanks
[00:27] <ari_stress> nice nickname Yv12345vY
[00:27] <Thomas1> !rules
[00:27] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:27] <jeff__> creed, I would but this is for a client.
[00:27] <Yv12345vY> ari_stress, haha, thanks
 :( at the end of the install process it DID say that complain about not having a connection and that they were commented out :(
[00:28] <simmerz> Daviey: I've currently got libdvdcss2 installed from medibuntu
[00:28] <Thomas1> !rules
[00:28] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:28] <LjL-Mobile> tuntun: well either uncomment them or generate a whole new list from source-o-matic (/msg ubotu som)
[00:28] <kevin__> apologies I should of siad be careful Telee as downloading files off of www.getdeb.net or anything not included in your distribution's repos can cause breakage and can have negative impacts later if you decide to upgrade
[00:28] <telee> what does this mean when i import
[00:28] <telee> The MIME type could not be identified
[00:28] <kevin__> t=Thanks Ljl-Mobile I should of said that
[00:28] <Daviey> simmerz: works for most.. suprised it's not working - i would try installing the css script from source and see if it moans
[00:28] <mike4785> ive got xine installed and it still doesn't let mey
[00:28] <Malik__> is there anytoher way?
[00:29] <mike4785> play dvd's
[00:29] <simmerz> i tried that too. it downgrades libdvdcss2 to 1.2.5
[00:29] <simmerz> Daviey: gxine even crashes on start up, helpfully"!
[00:30] <Thomas1> hi, how do i set a folders (and subfiles) to read and wtith?
[00:30] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, wtf?
[00:30] <mike4785> for the gplayer i installed some plugins and it still doesn't work gives me the same error
[00:30] <Thomas1> write*
[00:30] <tuntun> I looked at the iso date on the http site and it said it was updated jan2, so are they doing regular updates to the iso with the latest package versions?
[00:30] <Vuen> hey guys, how do i get the current desktop session in bash? $DESKTOP_SESSION now simply says 'default' in gutsy, whereas it used to say 'kde'. is there another environment variable which will tell me whether gnome or kde is running?
[00:31] <kitche> tuntun: packages are the same unless they are security updates they might have just found a bug with the .sio
[00:31] <kitche> .iso*
[00:31] <Thomas1> ?
[00:31] <telee> when i import i get a MIME error and "The GStreamer plugins to decode mp3 cannot be found?
[00:32] <telee> any suggestions
[00:32] <tuntun> what is stopping them from doing regular updates to the iso with the latest package versions?
[00:32] <gary> hi
[00:32] <ericvw> How do I make my surround sound mute when I press the mute button?  For some reason it only mutes the front speakers
[00:32] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, wtf?
[00:32] <ari_stress> !mp3 | telee
[00:32] <ubotu> telee: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:32] <gary> i am having issues with ati drivers and xrandr
[00:32] <Task> mneptok that didnt fix my Mic :(
[00:32] <kitche> tuntun: packages only get updated if it's a security update or a bug fix
[00:32] <kevin__> Telee - If your using Gutsy you can install buntu-restricted extras package and that will get your codecs
[00:33] <Beetle_> Although I'm finding a lot of good information on the web about how to use Ubuntu I'm having trouble finding a guide for some of the basic stuff (for example I don't know how to "alt+tab" out of a program). Can anyone recommend a guide for basic commands for me?
[00:33] <kevin__> ubuntu-restricted-extras*
 why that limitation?
[00:33] <Vuen> anyone know how to find out whether kde is running from a bash script?
[00:33] <kazol> How come Ubuntu crashes *all* the time? It's a new installation.
[00:33] <telee> kevin__, sweet doing that now
[00:33] <LjL-Mobile> Beetle_: "alt+tab out"? i thought i knew what Alt+Tab did it Windows, and i also thought it did the very same thing in Ubuntu
[00:33] <kazol> It's less stable than Windows in my experience.
[00:33] <kevin__> kazol - are you using compiz with an ati graphics card?
[00:34] <Beetle_> ljl-mobile hmm maybe, I've only tried it in one program.
[00:34] <kazol> kevin__: No, I disabled it after having instability.
[00:34] <nitrocks> I am trying to use my gutsy machine to send characters over a serial port to a mac(on which i've got a usb to serial converter).  The problem is that nothing is received by the mac.  Output from the command "dmesg | grep tty" shows that my system has 2 serial ports available on ttyS0 and ttyS1.  I have tried both of these with no luck.  Can anyone provide me some direction?
[00:34] <Task> I have Sound Blaster Auxilry Live and everything works except my MIC..... can anyone help me?
[00:34] <kevin__> Cool telee hope it helps you out
[00:35] <nofear> Hi, I have a BFG Tech GeForce 7600GT Running Gutsy and am unable to get a very good FPS in glxgears, I fear i may have bad drivers installed.  Anything i can do to make it work right?
[00:35] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, wtf?
[00:35] <Chris_Swift_> Hello everyone, I am having problems with Beryl as a window manager, everytime that I load it, I get a white screen.
[00:35] <tuntun> why that limitation to only security updates for the iso?
[00:35] <WinterWeaver> what file manager can I use in openbox, without it killing my openbox menu and background (like nautilus just did :( )
[00:35] <simmerz> Daviey: totem-xine suggests that libdvdcss isn't installed, but it really is
[00:35] <Ryuki> how do I remove the leftover YIM? I already uninstalled it, but I still some leftover. It's in Others section in Applications. Hmm... Anyone know how?
[00:36] <LjL-Mobile> !documentation | Beetle_, starting point is
[00:36] <ubotu> Beetle_, starting point is: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[00:36] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on?
[00:36] <Ryuki> and I also want to remove Notepad and YIM.
[00:36] <neo_linux_noob> I need some help!
[00:37] <telee> kevin__, defiitely thanks i appreciate it
[00:37] <mike4785> guys whats the demuxer
[00:37] <kevin__> Telee - Awesome glad to help
[00:37] <neo_linux_noob> can somebody help me with my Ubuntu Problems?
[00:37] <tuntun> why are updates for the package on the iso limited to security issues?
[00:37] <kevin__> What's up neo?
[00:37] <Chris_Swift_> Hello everyone, I am having problems with Beryl as a window manager, everytime that I load it, I get a white screen, my graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400, can anyone help?
[00:37] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__ : i have a few challenges
[00:37] <Malik_> hey u guys i stil can't fix my problem
[00:38] <Ryuki> Hm? Anybody?
[00:38] <Daviey> simmerz: It sounds very much like it isn't installed.. have you tried $ sudo apt-get remove --purge libdvdcss2 ; sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[00:38] <telee> kevin__, it workes now... horay
[00:38] <neo_linux_noob> number one : I cant access any off my user accounts.
[00:38] <telee> =]
[00:38] <tuntun> 'cos i was excited to think that I could now download the latest iso that has all the latest package versions...
[00:38] <Malik_> how do o reomove a secondary os
[00:38] <kevin__> telle -  :D
[00:39] <Malik_> i need to reomove my xp home and keep pro and install linux after on xp home
[00:39] <Malik_> but i donot know which is on which partition
[00:39] <neo_linux_noob> i get a error msg about my /tmp is full and or I dont have write perms for them or something
[00:39] <kevin__> Neo - how do you mean? It won't let you log in?
[00:39] <Chris_Swift_> Malik_: Are you on Ubuntu right now?
[00:39] <Malik_> no
[00:39] <nofear> I have a BFG Tech GeForce 7600GT Running Gutsy and am unable to get a very good FPS in glxgears, I fear i may have bad drivers installed.  Anything i can do to make it work right? Can anyone help me on this matter?
[00:39] <kevin__> Neo - ooo ok... hmm give me a sec I'll brb.
[00:39] <Malik_> iam gunan install it after
[00:39] <Daviey> Malik_: backup everything, use gparted to resize the partion then "$ sudo update-grub" to sort out the grub bootloader
[00:39] <Malik_> ...?
[00:39] <kevin__> Neo - Or if someone can help that's fine too
[00:39] <KalEl> help please, when i start gnome-appearance-properties it says: Unable to locate image file in pixmap_path: "22x22/apps/khelpcenter.png"
[00:39] <Malik_> and easy way perhaps
[00:40] <kevin__> Neo - I might be about 5-10 min
[00:40] <Chris_Swift_> Ok can you tell what drive is each, by the docs and programs?
[00:40] <tuntun> So the gutsy iso *hasn't* been updated with the lastest package versions???
[00:40] <neo_linux_noob> when i go to login; it says i cant login because i dont have write permissions and or the /tmp is full. i then says to contact the admin and it cant log in
[00:40] <Ryuki> how do I remove YIM? I already uninstalled WINE.
[00:40] <Ryuki> it says it is uninstalled
[00:40] <simmerz> Daviey: just done that, still get the same error
[00:40] <neo_linux_noob> ive got 2 - 3 hours
[00:40] <Chris_Swift_> Malik_:  Ok can you tell what drive is each, by the docs and programs?
[00:41] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[00:41] <kitche> Strangework: probably
[00:41] <neo_linux_noob> I can only log in as 'root'
[00:41] <simmerz> Daviey: I have /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2 -> libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[00:41] <Malik_> wat do umean
[00:41] <neo_linux_noob> I have Ubuntu 7.10
[00:41] <Malik_> like tell u wats on which partiton
[00:41] <Malik_> i hav c and d
[00:41] <kevin__> Neo - OK I'll brb
[00:41] <Chris_Swift_> Malik_: Ok well does each partition/drive have different size in Gigabytes?
[00:41] <Jimmy__> hello everyone
[00:41] <neo_linux_noob> wonderful kevin
[00:41] <neo_linux_noob> ty
[00:41] <Malik_> yea
[00:41] <Strangework> kitche, hm, I setup Chinese and set it so the only available languages are Chinese simp/trad, English, and other
[00:41] <Daviey> simmerz: Sorry, no idea - not heard of it just not working before, maybe it's a dvd drive problem?
[00:42] <Malik_> one is liek half the size
[00:42] <telee> so im looking on ubuntu forums, and i want my 5 buttom microsoft intelli mouse to work, should i install the IMwheel thing or can i get it workign w/o installing extra apps
[00:42] <Jimmy__> not sure if this is allowed...but is anyone a member at ScT?
[00:42] <simmerz> Daviey: the same dvd worked before when i was running gentoo. same hardware
[00:42] <Daviey> Malik_: cat /boot/grub/menu.1st will help show what is on each partion :)
[00:42] <Chris_Swift_> Mailk_: In the partition editor in Ubuntu, just format the drive that's the smaller or bigger size and then change it to ext3, do it  manually in the options and make a small partition for the swap
[00:42] <tuntun> Malik_: when you boot up do you get the choice between xp/pro?
[00:43] <Malik_> yea
[00:43] <Malik_> cp pro is on the top
[00:43] <Malik_> xp*
[00:43] <Daviey> simmerz: no idea, hit launchpad answers if i were you.  https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu (or the forums)
[00:43] <Huhn22> Hello my dear helpers! I can't seem to be able to use my external disk to be writable in ubuntu. I think its the Usb-S-ATA bridge linux doesnt like. WIndows hates it too. What to do?
[00:43] <simmerz> Daviey: thanks
[00:43] <KalEl> help please, when i start gnome-appearance-properties it says: (gnome-appearance-properties:6007): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_map: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE (widget)' failed
[00:43] <tuntun> Malik_: so that means that the one at the top is on the first partition
[00:43] <Chris_Swift_> Hello everyone, I am having problems with Beryl as a window manager, everytime that I load it, I get a white screen, my graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400, can anyone help?
[00:44] <mike4785> guys i get this error when i try and run a dvd
[00:44] <mike4785> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[00:44] <Malik_> umm i donot know but lets take the risk
[00:44] <Malik_> i can jus install agina after
[00:44] <mike4785> i am running gxine
[00:44] <Malik_> so tell me how to get rid of second 1
[00:44] <Malik_> the xp home??
[00:44] <detedagowa> hey all
[00:44] <Malik_> rite now iam on xp pro
[00:44] <Malik_> wat do i di
[00:44] <Malik_> do*
[00:44] <tuntun> Malik_: BUT you should confirm that by reading the boot.ini as already suggested.
[00:44] <Malik_> i donot know here to find that
[00:44] <Huhn22> Hello my dear helpers! I can't seem to be able to use my external disk to be writable in ubuntu. I think its the Usb-S-ATA bridge linux doesnt like. WIndows hates it too. What to do?
[00:45] <kevin__> Neo - You still around and need help?
[00:45] <Chris_Swift_> Hello everyone, I am having problems with Beryl as a window manager, everytime that I load it, I get a white screen, my graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400, can anyone help?
[00:45] <tuntun> Malik_: ok, two options
[00:45] <Boglizk> Huhn22: Not even with root?
[00:45] <Kevin`> Huhn22 what does dmesg say when you plug it in
[00:45] <ScottyDaug> I'm having trouble getting my 3rd gen Nano working, any suggestions?
[00:45] <detedagowa> !upgrade
[00:45] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:45] <Kevin`> it could just not be partitioned or formatted
[00:45] <SpookyET> Hi
[00:45] <SpookyET> Is there an "ls" switch that returns full path?
[00:45] <Ryuki> !remove YIM
[00:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove yim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:45] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[00:46] <|Stevie|> anyone here using glipper?
[00:46] <tuntun> Malik_:1: right click mycomputer>manage>storage>diskmanagement
[00:46] <ScottyDaug> I tried using Floola, I dragged it to my ipod, but it won't do anything when I click on it.
[00:46] <Malik_> k
[00:46] <Chris_Swift_> !Beryl
[00:46] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:46] <ScottyDaug> Is anyone familiar with Floola?
[00:46] <neo_linux_noob> kevin : yes i am still here
[00:47] <neo_linux_noob> was just updating
[00:47] <nofear> Are there any Drivers i can download for a GeForce 7600GT video card for Gutsy?
[00:47] <mike4785> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[00:47] <mike4785> guys i get this error when i try and run a dvd
[00:47] <mike4785> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[00:47] <mike4785> i am running gxine
[00:47] <murf3326> Chris_Swift_: try this website... it's for dual monitors with nvidia and beryl, however it should work fine for single displays... just follow the instructions in the video.  http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2007/06/18/dual-monitors-with-ubuntu/
[00:47] <Boglizk> nofear: check nvidias website
[00:47] <kevin__> Neo - OK great
[00:48] <Yv12345vY> mike4785, which version of Ubuntu ar eyou running?
[00:48] <Chris_Swift_> murf3326, thanks, I am checking out compiz-fusion now to see if that works
[00:48] <kevin__> Neo - Help me with something first? I'm new to IRC. I know wierd :) How do I only talk to you?
[00:48] <Oli``> mikael79_: tends to mean you don't have the correct codec installed. If you try playing it in Totem, does it attempt to download the codec?
[00:48] <ScottyDaug> Is anyone familiar with Floola?
[00:48] <simmerz> Daviey: could it be the region setting? wondering if the region mask is wrong
[00:48] <nofear> did that, they have me download a file, i install it and restart  and its says that its running on drivers that are not suported by ubuntu
[00:48] <tkooda> win 3
[00:48] <Yv12345vY> kevin__, just do /msg nickname replacing nickname iwth whoever you want to talk to
[00:48] <mike4785> yea it did but it didn't help
[00:49] <rubax> Hi boys. My openGl games are running very slow. glxinfo shows -direct rendering
[00:49] <rubax> ;= no
[00:49] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[00:49] <Malik_> lol wat do i do next>>>>>???
[00:49] <ScottyDaug> Does anyone have any recommendations for software to put music on a 3rd gen Nano?
[00:49] <kitche> rubax: well you need direct rendering if you want fast opengl games
[00:49] <Huhn22> Boglizk: not even when root. I'd gksudo nautilus access the external disk and it still wouldn't boot.
[00:49] <tuntun> Malik_: option 2: right click  my_computer>properties>advanced>startup_and_recovery>edit. That will show you your boot.ini
[00:49] <laptoplad2232> !compiz
[00:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[00:49] <Huhn22> kevin`: i'll try dmesg
[00:49] <rubax> kitche: But how do I enable it?
[00:49] <Oli``> ScottyDaug: Amarok, Rhythmbox, Banshee, Exaile
[00:49] <kitche> rubax: driver you use?
[00:50] <rubax> nv legacy
[00:50] <tuntun> Malik_: option 2: right click  my_computer>properties>advanced>startup_and_recovery>edit. That will show you your boot.ini
[00:50] <ScottyDaug> Rhythm box won't let you add music, will it?
[00:50] <ScottyDaug> I tried Amarok, no dice.
[00:50] <Oli``> ScottyDaug: They're all popular but they have different UIs, so you really have to play with each to find your favourite
[00:50] <rubax> kitche: its a GeForce 420 Go Card
[00:50] <Ttech> I have some issues, my authent for the Ubuntu (built in package list
[00:50] <Yv12345vY> ScottyDaug, Rhythmbox should
[00:50] <neo_linux_noob> try clicking on my name
[00:50] <kazol> For some reason (this didn't happen before) when I access a samba server (mounted as a dir on the Desktop), I get erratic operation (file I/O errors, the directory switched up, system crash, etc.) on the computer.
[00:50] <alberto> Did signing key change lately? I am getting authentication failures while installing the kernel. This is when doing a fresh install via a PXE install using ubuntu's archive repository.
[00:50] <Oli``> They should all be able to...
[00:50] <neo_linux_noob> msg me
[00:50] <kitche> rubax: you using the nvidia driver or no?
[00:50] <mike4785> i followed the wiki for gxine and this file libdvdplay0 is all im missing
[00:50] <rubax> kitche: yes, its enabled
[00:50] <Ttech> the authentication is right, but I can't fix it
[00:50] <Ttech> :(
[00:50] <Malik_> i can't do the second option
[00:51] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[00:51] <Malik_> but i can do the first
[00:51] <mike4785> #
[00:51] <mike4785> Install the following packages (see Add Applications):
[00:51] <mike4785>     *
[00:51] <mike4785>       gxine
[00:51] <mike4785>     *
[00:51] <mike4785>       libdvdnav4
[00:51] <mike4785>     *
[00:51] <mike4785>       libdvdplay0
[00:51] <tuntun> Malik_: why not?
[00:51] <Malik_> but that doesn't tell me which os is on which??
[00:51] <mike4785>     *
[00:51] <mike4785>       libdvdread3
[00:51] <Oli``> ScottNail: That is, unless Apple have broken their firmwares again
[00:51] <KalEl> hi, when double clicked is there any way to set .sh files to execute, instead of showing a prompt whether to open it in gedit or execut?
[00:51] <kitche> rubax: then you should have direct rendering = yes if it's being used by xorg.conf
[00:51] <ScottNail> hey guys i need help setting my wqireless net up on my fluxbuntu boc...I have currently got WiFi Radar - although i think the files i need to dedit
[00:51] <kevin__> Neo - You get my message?
[00:51] <tuntun> Malik_: well your in xp pro right?
[00:51] <mike__> i upgraded from dapper to edgy an i lost x
[00:51] <ScottNail> dedit = edit
[00:51] <Huhn22> kevin`: dmesg gives me some summary about my usb devices, what should it say there in concern to the readonly external usb drive?
[00:51]  * ScottNail is falling to sleep right now
[00:51] <Malik_> yea
[00:51] <mike__> what do i need to do to reconfigure x
[00:51] <detedagowa> i am trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and it says i have an apt-get or aptitude program already running how do i shut that off
[00:51] <kazol> I don't think the system should crash and display only part of the icons on the Desktop just because a connection to a samba server cannot [for some reason] be made.
[00:51] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: no; did you get my msg?
[00:51] <Nrbelex_> How do you figure out why "desktop effects could not be enabled"?
[00:51] <Malik_> yes iam in xp pro
[00:52] <KalEl> oh i got it
[00:52] <tuntun> Malik_: so whatever partition is labelled c: will tell you wether it is first or second
[00:52] <tuntun> Malik_: on the physical hdd
[00:52] <Kevin`> Huhn22 moment
[00:52] <neo_linux_noob> Will someone help me one on one?
[00:52] <SJr|Nbook> I'd like to have one computer and hook two monitors, two keyboards, two mice, and run two concurrent independent sessions on it.
[00:52] <neo_linux_noob> Please help that is?
[00:53] <ScottNail> SJr|Nbook,  get a KVM switch
[00:53] <ScottNail> the best way
[00:53] <Malik_> where is phusical hdd
[00:53] <Yv12345vY> neo_linux_noob, you got msg
[00:53] <kevin__> Neo - I see yours but for soem reason I can't send to you
[00:53] <Kevin`> Huhn22 http://kwzs.be/~kevin/usb.txt example
[00:53] <ScottNail> err sorry wrong way round lol
[00:53] <mike__> can anyone help me
[00:53] <neo_linux_noob> :-?
[00:53] <tuntun> can you post me a screenshot?
[00:53] <kitche> kevin__: you need to be identified and registered with nickserv to send pms on freenode
[00:53] <neo_linux_noob> im not reciving msg but i think i can send
[00:53] <tuntun> malik_:can you post me a screenshot?
[00:53] <Huhn22> kevin`: thanks i'll check it out
[00:53] <mike__> please
[00:53] <Malik_> um not really that computer i soffline
[00:53] <Malik_> but i can tell u wats there
[00:54] <tuntun> malik_:ok
[00:54] <mike__> im sure its simple i used to run xoeg.conf but no go in ubuntu
[00:54] <ScottNail> brb
[00:54] <kevin__> Kitche - Oh ok
[00:54] <Malik_> its showing the 2 partitions and its showing the voolume, ,layout, type, file system
[00:54] <Malik_> and all that
[00:54] <kevin__> Neo - I have not registered on freenode so I can't pm yet
[00:54] <tuntun> malik_: there should be a long rectangle labelled "disk 0" with smaller rectangles inside of it
[00:54] <Malik_> its kinda liek a chart
[00:54] <neo_linux_noob> ok
[00:54] <kevin__> Neo - Sorry :( Did not know you have to do that
[00:54] <Malik_> yea!
[00:55] <kevin__> Neo - well anyway let us try to help you
[00:55] <neo_linux_noob> its all good, im not sure if i have ether
[00:55] <kevin__> Neo - So your using Gutsy?
[00:55] <Malik_> i see it
[00:55] <neo_linux_noob> very well
[00:55] <tuntun> malik_: what does is the first small rectangle labbeled?
[00:55] <neo_linux_noob> correct, Gusty
[00:55] <Huhn22> kevin`: my output is similar but in a different format. I still use dapper drake though
[00:55] <kevin__> Neo - OK So you say you can log on as root? Do you sudo?
[00:56] <neo_linux_noob> but i must have done something in the "CLI" to break my user account.
[00:56] <Borbus> Erm.. my mouse battery just ran out... so I plugged in my other USB mouse... how do I get the other mouse to work? Do I have to restart X?
[00:56] <neo_linux_noob> yes; i know super user does
[00:56] <Malik_> i donot get war y neab u all i see is a 5 cm squared picture of somehtign which has disk 0 beside it
[00:56] <Oli``> Borbus: shouldn't need to, I don't think
[00:57] <mike__> did i miss anyoen answering me ?\
[00:57] <neo_linux_noob> plus when i login the resolution is really small
[00:57] <Borbus> Well my mouse doesn't work atm... maybe it's because I have edited my xorg.conf for my other mouse
[00:57] <Oli``> Borbus: my experience has told me to wait a minute and it should "just work"
[00:57] <neo_linux_noob> but its in 800 by 600
[00:57] <Malik_> and i see 2 rectangles that say c and d
[00:57] <neo_linux_noob> x*
[00:57] <Borbus> It's been more than a minute
[00:57] <Clearzen> I'm trying to run vmware and when I try to start it from a terminal it gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50550/ Anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[00:57] <donkeywireless> I'm trying to get my Linksys wireless card working. I've followed every faq I can find, and I still can't get connected to the internet. When I do an ndiswrapper -l, I get that I have bcmw:15 installed and present, alternative driver bcm43xx present.
[00:57] <tuntun> malik_: so, if small-rect1 is labelled eg "drive1 c:" that means that xp pro is on the first partition because windows always uses c: as the root partition
[00:57] <DanB> what do i need to open this file   b2162.qtl
[00:57] <Oli``> Borbus: ah, yeah if it's not looking for a standard (ish) mouse it might have issues
[00:58] <taggie> Borbus, does the computer respond to the keyboard?
[00:58] <striphe> how do I install the gstream backend codecs so I can watch DVDS?
[00:58] <Malik_> alrite how do i get rid of the other partition
[00:58] <Malik_> tell me quicaly
[00:58] <Malik_> plz
[00:58] <Borbus> taggie, yes (obviously)
[00:58] <Kevin`> donkeywireless you shouldnt have both the windows proprietary driver and the open driver installed at the same time..
[00:58] <Oli``> lol Borbus =)
[00:58] <Borbus> Well I suppose I could be using another PC for all you know :P
[00:58] <kevin__> Neo - Well I will warn you I'm not too familiar with this problem, but I don't think this can harm your system. If you can sudo, then I would delete everythign out of the temp folder. I would type "sudo rm /tmp/*.*"
[00:58] <taggie> Borbus, hey, some of us have more than one PC :)
[00:58] <Clearzen> !restricted formats | striphe:
[00:58] <ubotu> striphe:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:58] <jamalz> hello does ubuntu support mono-core mono-data
[00:58] <tuntun> malik_: right click on it and select "format"
[00:58] <donkeywireless> How do i ditch the open source driver Kevin`?
[00:58] <alberto> Brand new install via PXE. authentication failed for kerneo packages. Did the keys change?
[00:58] <Borbus> I do too.. but the other one uses this keyboard too (ssh)
[00:58] <Oli``> jamalz: yes..
[00:58] <taggie> Borbus, probably need to restart X if it wasn't detected.
[00:59] <Borbus> Hmm.. damn
[00:59] <mike__> i have upgraded from dapper to edgy and now when i restart the box for the upgrade I have no x session
[00:59] <Kevin`> donkeywireless add bcm43xx to the module blacklist
[00:59] <Malik_> there it foormatting
[00:59] <Task> has anyone got the side buttons on the razer copperhead mouse to work?
[00:59] <Borbus> I wish everything ran as daemons indpendant of X
[00:59] <jamalz> i have software needs http://pastebin.com/d477ed0cd << those files
[00:59] <taggie> Borbus, my experiences have been pretty good with switching mice, don't know why it wouldn't work.
[00:59] <Malik_> ur still gunna be here rite i g2g for 10 mins
[00:59] <Oli``> Borbus: you might need to add a default-ish mouse config in there if restarting X doesn't work
[00:59] <kevin__> Neo - Or can you not log in at all to even sudo a command?
[00:59] <Malik_> brb!
[00:59] <Kevin`> donkeywireless I dont see why you would want to use the windows driver, though :)
[00:59] <Oli``> Borbus: me too..
[00:59] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: Do you think " sudo rm /tmp/*.*" is a good cmd to do?
[00:59] <Borbus> I haven't unplugged the other one
[00:59] <Borbus> Should I?
[00:59] <tuntun> malik_: yeah
[00:59] <Rufus> away not - be back soon
[00:59] <Task> !razor copperhead
[00:59] <Rufus> just a shower
[00:59] <taggie> yeah
[00:59] <Oli``> Borbus: might be worth a go
[00:59] <donkeywireless> Well, I love open source Kevin`, but the windows is the only one that allows me the full 54 mps.
[01:00] <DanB> what plugin is needed for ths file..b2162.qtl
[01:00] <Borbus> I'll try it
[01:00] <DanB> anyone
[01:00] <Oli``> Borbus: then reconnect your other one
[01:00] <Task> Has anyone got the side buttons on the RAZOR COPPERHEAD mouse to work?
[01:00] <nensondubois> I won a free gippie!
[01:00] <ScottNail> hey guys i need help setting my wqireless net up on my fluxbuntu box...I have currently got WiFi Radar - although i think the files i need to edit
[01:00] <Huhn22> kevin` my dmesg output is not entirely the same, different format. does not say the [sda] stuff ..I use dapper drake so maybe that's that
[01:00] <kevin__> Neo - I believe you should be OK. I just ran it on my system. But, if you don't feel comfortable then I would ask someone else. But, you should be ok as they are just temp files
[01:00] <neo_linux_noob> ok well ill give it a shot
[01:00] <Kevin`> donkeywireless ok. as long as you dont need rfmon or other exotic things it should work at least :) (the windows driver, that is)
[01:00] <Oli``> Task: have you tried btnx?
[01:01] <Borbus> Nope.. didn't work
[01:01] <nensondubois> hundagar!
[01:01] <Task> what is btnx?
[01:01] <Task> !btnx
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btnx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Borbus> Plugged new mouse into same port as old one
[01:01] <nensondubois> !btnx
[01:01] <kevin__> Neo - Oh btw without quotes JIC
[01:01] <Kevin`> Huhn22 pastebin what it DOES say when you plug the drive in
[01:01] <Borbus> I think it's probably because my xorg.conf is edited for my logitech mouse
[01:01] <Oli``> Task: A program for mapping button-clicks to keys/other buttons... It's quite cool
[01:01] <nensondubois> moonside no is yes goodbye!!!!
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> ok i got a error msg
[01:01] <nensondubois> dd
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <kevin__> Neo - OK what is the error?
[01:01] <tuntun> malik_: actually you should right click and select "delete"
[01:01] <Creed> o.O
[01:01] <Borbus> You can list more than one mouse in xorg.conf right?
[01:01] <nensondubois> e cerp!
[01:01] <Task> cool thanks... I will look it up now
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/Tracker-root.6031': Is a directory
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/Tracker-root.7281': Is a directory
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/virtual-root.B7y9s2': Is a directory
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/virtual-root.Cmbsec': Is a directory
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/virtual-root.Kdppgn': Is a directory
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/virtual-root.op4jg4': Is a directory
[01:01] <Huhn22> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:01] <neo_linux_noob> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/virtual-root.PI4Bbv': Is a directory
[01:01] <nensondubois> .;fldf
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <Creed> whoa nelly
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <Oli``> !paste
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:01] <nensondubois> ddddddd
[01:01] <Creed> !pastebin nenolod neo_linux_noob
[01:01] <kitche> !ops
[01:01] <nensondubois> d
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[01:01] <nensondubois> d
[01:02] <nensondubois> d
[01:02] <nensondubois> d
[01:02] <Kevin`> someone ban nensondubois ?
[01:02] <Creed> stop!
[01:02] <Borbus> ffs, enough spam
[01:02] <kevin__> Neo - That is fine. If we ran "sudo rm -rf /tmp/*.*"
[01:02] <Malik_> o man come on u shoudl hav told me delte before
[01:02] <Task> Oli`` Thanks man
[01:02] <Malik_> but should i deelete after format
[01:02] <kevin__> Neo - then it would have deleted the folders. I just wanted to cut down you tmp directory a little and see if it helped with out force deleting things
[01:02] <Borbus> I think in future I will have to put both my mice into xorg.conf.. in case I inevitably let my battery run down again..
[01:03] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: correct; I have
[01:03] <Oli``> Task: not sure if you've already found it or not but here's the UF thread on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455656
[01:03] <neo_linux_noob> ok good idea
[01:03] <neo_linux_noob> so should i test loging in with my user?
[01:03] <tuntun> malik_: you could just cancel format and then delete
[01:03] <Borbus> I'm doing coding so in theory I don't need the mouse...
[01:03] <Malik_> o
[01:03] <kevin__> Neo - so now that we have deleted some stuff from /tmp, is your problem still there?
[01:03] <Malik_> well it finished formattin i restrted and i still see xp home there
[01:04] <kevin__> Neo - yes
[01:04] <neo_linux_noob> ok brb
[01:04] <ed_> Please could someone tell me: in your opinion, is Ubuntu more advanced than Debian?
[01:04] <kevin__> Neo - I will wait here for you
[01:04] <neo_linux_noob> ty
[01:04] <nenolod> hi
[01:04] <kevin__> Neo - np
[01:04] <lukewarm> !hi > nenolod
[01:04] <tuntun> malik_: that just means that the boot.ini is not updated :)
[01:04] <Kevin`> ed_ what do you mean, advanced
[01:04] <patjuh> creed?, still here
[01:04] <Malik_> wait lemme try and run xp home jus to see if its deleted for sure
[01:05] <nenolod> lukewarm, :P
[01:05] <ibou> re
[01:05] <Creed> patjuh, I live here :D
[01:05] <Huhn22> kevin`: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50552/ interesting how it lists the same item twice...
[01:05] <detedagowa> how do i get a linux .mp3 decoder?
[01:05] <donkeywireless> Kevin`, i just added the bcm43xx driver to the blacklist, restarted and it's still saying alternative driver present.
[01:05] <Creed> !mp3 | Huhn22
[01:05] <ubotu> Huhn22: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <patjuh> creed, it makes now the install i think, but it takes more than 30 minutes for now
[01:05] <Creed> oops
[01:05] <ConstyXIV> can you use a wifi card to find out what frequencies are in use around you?
[01:06] <Creed> !mp3 | detedagowa
[01:06] <ubotu> detedagowa: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:06] <kenyy> Hey just woundering how good does mac hardware work with linux
[01:06] <neo_linux_noob> ok i tried to login but it errors out with a tiny error msg thats to small 2 read
[01:06] <Kevin`> Huhn22 file -s /dev/sdb1
[01:06] <Malik_> it doesn't good.....so i need to do 2 thins now go back to the partition thing (which menas u gotta tell me where to go again and delte the partion d cause i donot want  2 partitions and then after updtae the thign to make xp home go away
[01:06] <Creed> patjuh, heh I have the memory of a goldfish, mind refreshing my memory?
[01:06] <Oli``> kenyy: intel: great. PPC: okay, I think, maybe... not sure
[01:06] <tuntun> Malik_: what do you mean
[01:06] <pvl1> towards composite managers, is there anything else other then compiz?
[01:06] <murf3326> Does anyone know of a usenet newsreader for Ubuntu that supports SSL?
[01:06] <delerius> can someone help me reset Ubuntu?
[01:07] <Malik_> if i delte 1 partion where will the memory go
[01:07] <Malik_> to the firts partition rite
[01:07] <patjuh> I am installing amarok now, uhh no, i typed make because it the site told me to type make
[01:07] <Creed> delerius, what do you mean by reset?
[01:07] <Kevin`> Malik_ it will be unallocated, go nowhere
[01:07] <Malik_> ur a really slow typer
[01:07] <kevin__> Neo - Hmm..ok. Lets do this a diff way. So you can log in wiht your first uder account you created right? I'm assuming because you can sudo. Are logging in to a gui?
[01:07] <tuntun> Malik_: no it wil just be free space
[01:07] <pvl1> Malik_, if u destroy a partition it will be destored
[01:07] <crdlb> pvl1: not really, there are a couple of 2d composite managers (using Xrender only) and there will be one like compiz in kwin4
[01:07] <Malik_> wat?
[01:07] <kevin__> *user
[01:07] <Malik_> wats destored
[01:07] <tuntun> Malik_: did xp delete or what?
[01:07] <ScottyDaug> Does anyone here have a 3rd gen Nano working with Ubuntu?
[01:07] <Malik_> it diid delete
[01:08] <pvl1> crdlb, well i mianyl need it for kibda-dock
[01:08] <Huhn22> Kevin`:/dev/sdb1: x86 boot sector, extended partition table
[01:08] <Malik_> but i wanan only hav 1 partition now
[01:08] <patjuh> it takes a long time, i dont know if it is good
[01:08] <Kevin`> it wont be part of any partition, you will have to extend the other if you want that
[01:08] <Malik_> how do i do that
[01:08] <Creed> patjuh, it takes mroe than 30 minutes for what?
[01:08] <crdlb> pvl1: ah, in that case you can just use xcompmgr if you want
[01:08] <tuntun> Malik_: so now youve got the free space to install ubuntu right?
[01:08] <Kevin`> Huhn22 file -s /dev/sdb5
[01:08] <ace_suares> It turns out that grub made all /dev/md3 into /dev/md2 and this is not a kernel bug. It is related to the upgrade tough, and might be filed as a bug in itself. Also, the nvidia driver suddenly seems to be missing.
[01:08] <Oli``> murf3326: I use Thunderbird
[01:08] <delerius> Creed I messaged you
[01:08] <pvl1> crdlb, ill look into that ty
[01:08] <patjuh> i typed make after downloading and configureing AMAROK
[01:08] <ScottNail> :(
[01:08] <Malik_> yea but iam not gunna install that now thats for after
[01:08] <Creed> delerius, I dont accept private messages. Sorry.
[01:08] <ScottyDaug> I am so frustrated with my 3rd Gen Nano.
[01:08] <crdlb> pvl1: it adds onto your existing wm. there's also a composite manager builtin to xfce's wm (xfwm4)
[01:08] <patjuh> the possible video dvd player
[01:08] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: yes, I went to the user switcher to go to my other first user.  I entered the 'passwd'; but it returns a "msg" that is to tiny to read in that GUI.
[01:09] <eoopy> it took me one night and a whole day to realise that my problem was RAID, never even thought about it..
[01:09] <johnficca> I need some help installing a driver for my wireless card
[01:09] <eoopy> but now i have sound troubles
[01:09] <sea1> what is the terminal command to reboot the PC?
[01:09] <kevin__> Neo - Oh ok...so your using the fast user switching applet in the gnome panel?
[01:09] <johnficca> the card is a realtek 8185L wireless
[01:09] <patjuh> creed, it just stopped
[01:09] <delerius> ok, well, I messed around with ubuntu a while back, changed some files, and now it seems like i don't have authority to do anything
[01:09] <tuntun> Malik_: why cant you install it before xp?
[01:09] <Malik_> how do i make my partion go in to the other so i only hav 1 then
[01:09] <Kevin`> sea1 reboot
[01:09] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: correct!
[01:09] <kevin__> Neo - if so, can you log every one out and then log in to that user just fine?
[01:09] <Huhn22> kevin`: file -s /dev/sdb5 /dev/sdb5: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)
[01:10] <patjuh> and now i must type su -c "make install"
[01:10] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__:How so?
[01:10] <Huhn22> what does file -s do by the way :/
[01:10] <johnficca> they have a driver on there site for linux but I don't know how to install it
[01:10] <patjuh> to finish i think
[01:10] <kevin__> NEo - ok good now I understadn more of what is going on
[01:10] <Malik_> u know wat forget all this i jus need 1 last tthign how do i update the boot thing
[01:10] <Creed> delerius, do you have anything on the install that you absolutely need? Otherwise just reinstall.
[01:10] <Kevin`> Huhn22 identifies a file type based  on its contents
[01:10] <Malik_> so that xp home goes away form boot menu
[01:10] <tuntun> Malik_: option 2: right click  my_computer>properties>advanced>startup_and_recovery>edit. That will show you your boot.ini!
[01:10] <Kevin`> Huhn22 try mounting hdb5 somewhere
[01:10] <Gatekeeper> is there anyway I can get a ntfs paration to read and write from
[01:10] <delerius> Creed, do I just pick up the latest version?
[01:10] <delerius> 7.07?
[01:10] <Kevin`> Huhn22 *sbd5
[01:11] <Creed> delerius, sure :)
[01:11] <SJr|Nbook> I'd like to have one computer and hook two monitors, two keyboards, two mice, and run two concurrent independent sessions on it. How can I do that with Ubuntu Desktop Edition?
[01:11] <khermans> !ntfs | Gatekeeper
[01:11] <ubotu> Gatekeeper: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[01:11] <kevin__> Neo - OK so say you just boot up your computer. Then, your presented with the log in screen. Does any of the other accounts log in without errors when it is the only account logged in?
[01:11] <delerius> neato
[01:11] <Gatekeeper> thanks
[01:11] <eoopy> Malik, have an easy life and use lilo.. works pretty good
[01:11] <tuntun> Malik_: pastebin it!
[01:11] <delerius> oh hey... it's 7.10
[01:11] <Malik_> and wat do u do with boo inin
[01:11] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: so, should I log out as root and try to login as my first user?
[01:11] <sea1> how do i change to a root user in the terminal?
[01:11] <kevin__> Neo - or do you have problems even logging in to the account in general?
[01:11] <Gatekeeper> !ntfs
[01:11] <tuntun> Malik_: pastebin it!
[01:11] <kazol> Has anyone here had problems with the Feisty updates? After installing them, standby/hibernate and the soundcard didn't work.
[01:11] <johnficca> here is the page with the driver
[01:11] <johnficca> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L
[01:11] <Malik_> wats pasebin
[01:11] <neo_linux_noob> yes
[01:11] <sea1> how do i change to a root user in the terminal?
[01:12] <Vuen> sea: use sudo <command> to run a command as root
[01:12] <Creed> !pastebin | Malik_
[01:12] <ubotu> Malik_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:12] <neo_linux_noob> all my accounts/user have this same problem
[01:12] <Huhn22> !ntfs-3g
[01:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:12] <johnficca> I need help installing it
[01:12] <murf3326> Oli``: thanks... I gave Thunderbord a shot but it doesn't handle binaries all that well.  I was hoping there was something available more in line with New Rover (Win).
[01:12] <kazol> neo_linux_noob: Is it possible to uninstall the updates?
[01:12] <johnficca> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 i386
[01:12] <Kevin`> Huhn22 it would seem from this that the usb-sata bridge itself is working fine, any problems are user error or the filesystem on the disk
[01:12] <kevin__> Neo - Yes, try logging everyone out that you have logged in using the fast user switcher applet. Then try logging in with the account that is giving you the problem and see if it will let you log in from the log in screen (GDM) rather than using the fast user applet
[01:12] <xobius> sea1, sudo su
[01:12] <pvl1> crdlb, yay it works!!! thank you so much
[01:12] <Vuen> sea1: if you want a root terminal, you can type "sudo -i" or "sudo su", but you're better off sudoing each command
[01:13] <kevin__> Neo - I can wait for you so just take your time
[01:13] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[01:13] <xobius> sea1, next do passwd
[01:13] <Vuen> sea1: it leaves an audit trail and helps stop you from making mistakes
[01:13] <Vixen_> Uuh, folks, anyone reckon they could give me a hand?
[01:13] <Vuen> !ask| Vixen_
[01:13] <ubotu> Vixen_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:13] <Malik_> wat is pastebin and can't get to the boot ini cause after i go to my computer and advcaed i hav no options
[01:13] <Creed> !pastebin | Malik_
[01:13] <ubotu> Malik_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:14] <Creed> thats pastebin Malik_
[01:14] <kazol> This is ridiculous. I've had nothing but problems with Ubuntu. I can't believe Canaconical couldn't make a decent Linux distro.
[01:14] <tuntun> Malik_: just blank?
[01:14] <khermans> kazol, you must state your issues
[01:14] <kazol> I did!
[01:14] <Creed> kazol, Canaoconical doesnt make this distro
[01:14] <Kevin`> poor kazol
[01:14] <Malik_> wait i foudn another way to get there
[01:14] <kazol> Whatever
[01:14] <power788> how do i map the windows key to open the gnome applications menu/
[01:14] <kazol> For some reason (this didn't happen before) when I access a samba server (mounted as a dir on the Desktop), I get erratic operation (file I/O errors, the directory switched up, system crash, etc.) on the computer.
[01:14] <Huhn22> kevin`: the weird  thing the filesystem is fine and the disk works in  [enter swear word] vista, but will keep crashing the windows 2000 pc
[01:14] <kazol> I don't think the system should crash and display only part of the icons on the Desktop just because a connection to a samba server cannot [for some reason] be made.
[01:14] <x-X-x> i want to set permission for a dir and subfolders and files what do i type ?
[01:15] <Vixen_> I'd like to insta,
[01:15] <khermans> kazol, did this ever work properly?
[01:15] <khermans> and if so, what changed
[01:15] <Creed> kazol, are you using the built in method to use smb shares?
[01:15] <kazol> khermans: Worked perfectly before.
[01:15] <Vuen> x-X-x: chmod ### <list of files>
[01:15] <Clearzen> I'm trying to run vmware and when I try to start it from a terminal it gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50550/ Anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[01:15] <khermans> kazol, before what?
[01:15] <x-X-x> every file ?
[01:15] <Kevin`> Huhn22 run chkdsk on it
[01:15] <kazol> Creed: I wrote a script for smbclient to mount the passwd protected share.
[01:15] <Vuen> x-X-x: you can list the files or do a wildcard substitution
[01:15] <kazol> khermans: No changes at all.
[01:15] <johnficca> I need some help installing a driver for my wireless card...is there a special channel to go for that
[01:15] <khermans> kazol, did you check Samba logs?
[01:16] <x-X-x> i know its chmod 755 -r /dir is this right ?
[01:16] <Vuen> x-X-X: i.e. "chmod 755 *" will set all files in the current directory to rwx-rx-rx
[01:16] <kazol> I'll check.
[01:16] <Creed> !nfs
[01:16] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:16] <x-X-x> but was my command right ?
[01:16] <Vixen_> I'd like to install ubuntu on an external HD, which is currently in FAT32, and I'm unsure if it's linux compatible. When in the partition viewer, the external HD seems to be locked.
[01:16] <tuntun> Malik_: look I am going to recommend that you dont bother editing boot.ini.. the first xp install is gone, the menu entry is still there but don't worry about it, it wont do any harm, i'd say that you should wait untill you have ubuntu installed to worry about it
[01:16] <khermans> kazol, either way -- you need to specify the exact stpes you took and what went wrong
[01:16] <Vuen> x-X-x: yes, that is right. the -r option means recursively through subfolders. so it will set all files, and all folders, and all files in those folders, and etc to 755.
[01:16] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: ok so you want me to log out as root then try to log in as any of my user and see if I can get in without an error msg? I had remember that it said something like unable to write due to not being able to write to the [somthing to the effect of /tmp OR /home/user} or /tmp is full,..blah
[01:16] <Oli``> murf3326: Pan apprently, maybe
[01:16] <khermans> kazol, if you dont like community support, yo ucan buy support from Canoncial
[01:16] <x-X-x> but it says command not found
[01:16] <Oli``> murf3326: http://pan.rebelbase.com/
[01:16] <gpm> hi guys. the video mode on my console is messed up, it says "video mode not supported." X works fine. i added a vga line that has worked in the past...could it be usplash (or whatever is being used these days)?
[01:17] <Malik_> i got to this notpad file which says (boot loader)
[01:17] <Creed> kazol, have you tried using cifs as a replacement?
[01:17] <Vuen> x-X-x: ?? really? type this:    which chmod
[01:17] <jakel1> ok..... this is strange
[01:17] <Malik_> i think that might be it cause it sows the both xps there
[01:17] <neo_linux_noob> im googling my error msg, hang onm
[01:17] <jakel1> i installed the flashplugin-nonfree and it's not working in firefox
[01:17] <tuntun> Malik_: look I am going to recommend that you dont bother editing boot.ini.. the first xp install is gone, the menu entry is still there but don't worry about it, it wont do any harm, i'd say that you should wait untill you have ubuntu installed to worry about it
[01:17] <khermans> gpm,  vga=791 ?
[01:17] <gpm> khermans: yeah
[01:18] <Oli``> murf3326: no, not sure if it supports ssl
[01:18] <jakel1> i looked on forums for helps and none of the help worked.... anyone have any suggestions?
[01:18] <jakel1> this is ubuntu 7.10
[01:18] <x-X-x> it says operation not permitted
[01:18] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: I found it!
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> you ree ka
[01:19] <tuntun> Malik_: as for combining the free space into the first parition, you'll need at tool like partitionmagic for that. ubuntu installs the GRUB bootloader, which with give you the option of xp/ubuntu when you boot
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> " GDM could not write your authorization file . This
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> could mean that you are out of disk space or that your
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> home directory could not be opened for writing . In any
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> case it is not possible to login. Contact system administrator ."
[01:19] <khermans> jakel1, you installed in properly without error ?
[01:19] <Oli``> murf3326: there's also http://www.hellanzb.com/trac/ that (does support SSL)
[01:19] <kevin__> Neo - Yes, exactly. Actually What you can do is reboot your computer. Then when the log-in screen comes up, try to log in as the user that is failing on log in now. I'm trying to rule out a problem with the user account itself and trying to find out if it a problem with the fast user switching. You understand what I getting at?
[01:19] <neo_linux_noob> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/gdm-could-not-write-my-authorization-file-.-low-disk-space-555893/
[01:19] <Vuen> x-X-x: ah, this will happen if the files don't belong to your current user. you probably need to be root. add sudo in front, like this:   sudo chmod 755 -r /dir
[01:19] <Malik_> i fixed the boot inin
[01:19] <kevin__> Neo - Awesome! what is it?
[01:19] <khermans> jakel1, a version of the plugin was corrupted recently
[01:19] <Vixen_> I'd like to install ubuntu on an external HD, which is currently in FAT32, and I'm unsure if it's linux compatible. When in the partition viewer, the external HD seems to be locked. First time using linux, can't find anything on forums etc.
[01:19] <jakel1> khermans: yes i did install it and it did not give any error message
[01:19] <kevin__> Neo - Cool so your good now?
[01:19] <murf3326> Oli``: thanks tried Pan (no SSL)... I'll check out hellanzb... haven't tried that one yet.  :)
[01:19] <Huhn22> kevin`: chkdsk?
[01:19] <tuntun> Malik_: look I am going to recommend that you dont bother editing boot.ini.. the first xp install is gone, the menu entry is still there but don't worry about it, it wont do any harm, i'd say that you should wait untill you have ubuntu installed to worry about it
[01:19] <khermans> jakel1, and you are running the standard firefox?
[01:19] <jakel1> Vixen_ it needs to be in ext3 or ext2
[01:19] <tuntun> Malik_: look I am going to recommend that you dont bother editing boot.ini.. the first xp install is gone, the menu entry is still there but don't worry about it, it wont do any harm, i'd say that you should wait untill you have ubuntu installed to worry about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:20] <Malik_> lol...
[01:20] <jakel1> i prefer ext3
[01:20] <Vuen> Vixen_: do you want to wipe the external HD?
[01:20] <jakel1> yep
[01:20] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: ahh yes i think i follow where you maybe leading @
[01:20] <jakel1> khermans
[01:20] <Malik_> tryin to act like ur a fast typer
[01:20] <Malik_> lol
[01:20] <Kevin`> Huhn22 yes, from vista. the windows filesystem checker..
[01:20] <jakel1> i am
[01:20] <Malik_> it work si fixed it
[01:20] <Malik_> all i see is xp pro loading liek a linux spped
[01:20] <Vixen_> Vuen- I'd like to wipe it, then partition it for use with linux and windows
[01:20] <khermans> jakel1, so you used apt to install and you restarted your browser?
[01:20] <kevin__> Neo - OK, good. Do you still need help or do you think you got it now?
[01:20] <Vixen_> Jakel1- cheers
[01:21] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: I'm not so sure i'm "good now"; but i'm reading up on that error msg b4 i end my session.
[01:21] <Vuen> Vixen_: ah. then my suggestion is to first install windows on it, and let the windows installer wipe it for you and format it ntfs
[01:21] <khermans> jakel1, please ensure you did not use automatix or any other repositories
[01:21] <eoopy> how can i reboot the system without restarting it after installing a card?.. dont wanna restart the box!!
[01:21] <jakel1> khermans: yes i did.... i have done this same thing in previous releases and have not had problems
[01:21] <Huhn22> I want to install new nts 3g drivers to ubuntu, the wiki says to install the universe repository first. I have it installed, yet I cant find ntfs-config in the synaptic package manager
[01:21] <Vuen> Vixen_: then run the ubuntu installer and let it partition it for you (make sure ask it to resize the partition while installing ubuntu)
[01:21] <jakel1> i am not the only person with this problem on 7.10
[01:21] <tuntun> Malik_: well if you have configure boot.ini to load only the non-existant partition2 you can only blame yourse;f
[01:21] <khermans> jakel1, so do you have the xpm and .so in /usr/lib ?
[01:21] <emma> ubuntu has started to give me troubles lately.
[01:21] <kevin__> Neo - hahah I just meant if you think you can solve your problem now. Sorry. Well let me know if it helps.
[01:21] <Strangework> I cannot type into the address bar in Nautilus, what's going on? I edited my SCIM input settings last night. Could that have anything to do with this?
[01:22] <neo_linux_noob> kevin__: im working on it..can you please give me 5 minutes to look this over and see if i must close all my running proggies
[01:22] <emma> My computer just bogs down . Like when I'm watching a YouTube video it just freezes for some time. Or when I'm doing other things. It freezes.
[01:22] <khermans> Strangework, change settings back and find out
[01:22] <Huhn22> kevin`: you ask me to use vista? does this even have chkdsk?
[01:22] <kevin__> Neo - Yeah no problem. I'll be here
[01:22] <tuntun> Malik_: no, i am not a fast typer, is called copy/paste!
[01:22] <Vixen_> Vuen- I'm not sure what you mean about installing windows on the ect. HD. I noticed something to do with "diskflags" that would erase content on the HD
[01:22] <khermans> emma, flash is very bad
[01:22] <Mdance86> Does anybody know if my Ubuntu OS will work with any Power Line Ethernet adapters??
[01:22] <Kevin`> Huhn22 I say vista because you said your other windows computers dont work. it should have it
[01:23] <Strangework> khermans, I am not entirely sure what to change back, my memory is very lousy.
[01:23] <khermans> Mdance86, google and/or check lspci output
[01:23] <Mdance86> thanks
[01:23] <Huhn22> kevin`:thanks. I still hope its the last time anyone in #ubtunu advises me to use vista, I'm shocked ;)
[01:23] <khermans> Strangework, then you are out of luck :-)
[01:23] <kevin__> Anyone have an eeepc? I'm dieing to get mine. It should be here on friday.
[01:23] <Vuen> Vixen_: oh, sorry, I thought you meant you wanted to install windows and linux on it. you mean you just want to use it to store data, yes?
[01:23] <jakel1> khermans: yes... but i figured it out
[01:23] <khermans> Strangework, or make a new user if your settings were user-specific
[01:23] <jakel1> i just downloaded flash from adobe and used that
[01:23] <neo_linux_noob> im listening to some shoutcast on amarok and i got FF running and some other stuff.
[01:23] <jakel1> it worked fine
[01:23] <Kevin`> Huhn22 it's a microsoft filesystem, so you should use a microsoft tool tocheck it
[01:23] <khermans> jakel1, the repository version should work
[01:23] <Strangework> khermans, hm, I will try taht.
[01:24] <Huhn22> kevin`: true point.
[01:24] <khermans> jakel1, there was an MD5 issue recently -- but that was fixed
[01:24] <sachu> How do I find out the driver that is being used by the eth1 interface?
[01:24] <johnficca> my wireless card maker makes a driver for linux and it works but it stops after every boot and I have to install it all over again...help please.
[01:24] <ed_> Please can someone tell me: is Ubuntu much better thn Debian?
[01:24] <Vixen_> Vuen- Yes, windows is on my usual HD, I'd like the external HD to house the ubuntu operating system and about half the space, and the other half for storing windows files, but not windows.
[01:24] <Vuen> ah, i understand now.
[01:24] <Kevin`> ed_ no, ubuntu will eat your toaster
[01:24] <jakel1> i'm not the only one with the problem many others have had this same problem and they said they just used adobe's and it worked fine
[01:24] <Vixen_> Vuen- Thanks for the help, also
[01:24] <Vadi> Quick question, how do I add /home/vadi/bin to my "path" ?
[01:25] <Vuen> Vixen_: in that case I would just go ahead and install ubuntu on it, let the ubuntu installer wipe the whole drive.
[01:25] <Clearzen> johnficca: How are you installing it? And what type of card is it?
[01:25] <khermans> Vadi, permanently?
[01:25] <Vadi> khermans: Sure
[01:25] <neo_linux_noob> ok i've save'n exited my proggies and closed my stuff.  Should i just restart or logoff?..WOuld ctrl+alt+Backspace work?
[01:25] <khermans> Vadi, in bashrc or .profile
[01:25] <Vuen> Vixen_: it will reformat it into an ext3 filesystem, and you can install the ext2ifs filesystem driver for windows to access your data there
[01:25] <thenetduck> Does anyone here know how to make a terms and agreement for a Website?
[01:25] <ace_suares> i see now that thereś a whole slew of bugs attributed to the kernel but probably grub related!
[01:25] <Task> Oli`` .... Can I PM you?? I have a question about defining the key on the mouse....
[01:25] <johnficca> Clearzen: the card is a realtek 8185L and this is the driver page http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L
[01:26] <detedagowa> how do i install flash player??
[01:26] <Vadi> johnficca: I have that chipset on my card... need help with it?
[01:26]  * Pelo wonders if there is a place where we mear mortals can vote for their favorite hardy default theme submission   he would vote for gelatin
[01:26] <detedagowa> !flash
[01:26] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:26] <Vuen> gelatin? really?
[01:26] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:26] <tuntun> why are updates for the package on the iso limited to security issues?
[01:26] <khermans> sachu, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
[01:26] <Vixen_> Vuen- ok, so the other half will be compatible with all windows files then? After installing ex2
[01:26] <khermans> sachu, or lsmod
[01:26] <tuntun> !iso
[01:26] <Pelo> detedagowa, the flash intaller is broken atm,  the best way to do it is to go to the adobe website and get the tar.gz
[01:26] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:26] <Pelo> Vuen, yes
[01:26] <bmk789> is there a good guide to setting up a proxy i can replay all web traffic through via vpn?
[01:27] <johnficca> Vadi: if you download the driver and install it it should work
[01:27] <Vuen> Vixen_: no need to separate it into halves. You can just make the whole thing into ubuntu, and you'll be able to access all the space from within both windows and ubuntu
[01:27] <sachu> khermans, lsmod shows me a lot of information, but doesn't say which driver is used by eth1 itself. let me try the other thing that you suggested
[01:27] <Vuen> Vixen_: you can of course break it in half if you want to.
[01:27] <Vadi> johnficca: No I thought you needed help. I got mine working
[01:27] <Clearzen> johnficca: So, you are compiling it from source right
[01:27] <Pelo> Vuen,  top one http://mopedia.blogspot.com/2007/12/hardy-heron-theme-candidates.html
[01:27] <khermans> sachu, right but rules.d might
[01:27] <tuntun> why are updates for the package on the iso limited to security issues?
[01:27] <johnficca> Clearzen: yes it has a script called makedrv in it
[01:28] <kevin__> Neo - yeha just reboot the computer
[01:28] <khermans> tuntun, because they are supported
[01:28] <Vixen_> Vuen- Should I use this diskflags gadget to wipe the drive? since it seems to be locked at the moment
[01:28] <kevin__> Neo - System --> Quit
[01:28] <tnysten> i just installed ubuntu, and the sounds on my asus a6vm laptop do not work - i'm new to all of this, what should i do?
[01:28] <khermans> tuntun, backports and things like that are not
[01:28] <Clearzen> johnficca: Do you know the name of the driver, you may have to put it in /etc/modules in order for it to load at boot.
[01:28] <tuntun> what is stopping them from doing regular updates to the iso with the latest package versions?
[01:28] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> help and ignore my stupid english
[01:28] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :D
[01:28] <Task> Oli`` I installed everything correctly and its working... but I dont know how to define it in game different keys... In counter strike it still doesnt define the side button as Mouse6
[01:28] <johnficca> Vadi: it works if I run two of the srcipts that come with the driver
[01:28] <sachu> khermans, rules.d says, for the eth1 entry, : DRIVERS=="?*"
[01:28] <Clearzen> sudo modprobe <driver name> should work too
[01:28] <sachu> so that doesn't seem to help either :-(
[01:28] <johnficca> Vadi: but I have to run them every boot
[01:28] <tuntun> I installed gutsy from cd yesterday and to my pleasant surprise there wasn't a whole slew of updates waiting for download. So are they doing regular updates to the iso now? I really hope so!
[01:29] <Vixen_> Vuen- I havn't actually tried running the full installer, so disregard that last comment
[01:29] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> i don't now english very well
[01:29] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> so i'll be dirct
[01:29] <Vixen_> Could you tell me where to find this ex2 driver?
[01:29] <Oli``> Task: I suggest you map them to rarely used keys (or combinations)
[01:29] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> how to use the vnc in a network?
[01:29] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> or somenthing like this
[01:29] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :D
[01:29] <pvl1> my screen saver freezes my desktop
[01:29] <max_> hola :)
[01:29] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch,  if you tell use your native language we might be able to direct you to a channel in your native tong
[01:29] <khermans> sachu, sudo lshw ?
[01:29] <johnficca> Clearzen:if you go to here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652597&highlight=realtek you can see the scripts and the name of the drivers.
[01:29] <Vuen> Vixen_: sure. here you go: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:30] <rodolfo> !flash
[01:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:30] <tuntun> I looked at the iso date on the http site and it said it was updated jan2, so are they doing regular updates to the iso with the latest package versions?
[01:30] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:30] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Pelo: they don't awser
[01:30] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :(
[01:30] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch, they might not know
[01:30] <Vixen_> Vuen- Thanks very much for your help  =]
[01:30] <josspyker> johnficca: edit etc/network/interfaces
[01:30] <khermans> sachu, sudo lshw | grep -A 10 eth1
[01:30] <Vuen> Vixen_: no problem. good luck.
[01:30] <Vixen_> Cheers
[01:30] <truna> does anyone know if the hash check of the livedCD uses the md5sum.txt embedded on the iso ?
[01:30] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :(
[01:31] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch, you need vnc on the comp you want to access, and you will need to know the ip of the comp you want to access in order to access it remotely
[01:31] <tuntun> native tong O.o
[01:31] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch, that's pretty much all I know on the subject,  you can try google for more info
[01:31] <khermans> truna, i would doubt it!
[01:31] <johnficca>  josspyker: what do I put in there?
[01:31] <Pelo> tuntun, I'm not an native english speaker myself,  I make spelling mistakes
[01:31] <truna> khermans, then where would it get the checksums to verify that the liveCD is okay?
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[01:31] <Task> Oli`` kk will do thanks
[01:31] <sachu> khermans, thanks, that did the job : it says cdc_ether : thanks a lot
[01:31] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Pelo: is the remote desktop of the ubuntu
[01:31] <khermans> truna, oh you mean live boot up?
[01:31] <Clearzen> johnficca: it looks like this is the module (r8180.ko) you want to add to your /etc/modules file
[01:31] <B-rabbit> Kamus_H_Zwisch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[01:31] <khermans> sachu, np
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[01:32] <johnficca> how do I do that?
[01:32] <truna> khermans, yeah it has a md5sum.txt inside the iso
[01:32] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> Pelo: but my friend are in a, hmmm, multiple internet?
[01:32] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch, try looking in the help section for vcn then  there is probabaly some info
[01:32] <Vixen_> One last thing, if I'm wiping an external HD to put linux on, should I bother backing up my main HD, since It wouldn't be easy?
[01:32] <Clearzen> Clearzen: try sudo insmod r8180.ko and try to bring it online
[01:32] <Pelo> Kamus_H_Zwisch, no idea what that means
[01:32] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> thanks Pelo and B-rabbit
[01:32] <khermans> truna, yeah but thats for the filesystem, and ont the entire iso i think
[01:32] <truna> tuntun kindly read my question before pasting to me
[01:32] <josspyker> johnficca: are you using wep/wpa
[01:32] <khermans> truna, i would think the two are different
[01:32] <rodolfo> !Restricted
[01:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <johnficca>  josspyker: no none
[01:33] <khermans> truna, i have been wrone before though
[01:33] <Vixen_> One last thing, if I'm wiping an external HD to put linux on, should I bother backing up my main HD, since It wouldn't be easy?
[01:33] <truna> khermans,  im kinda curious as to the usage of that md5sum.txt embeeded on that iso..it mentions bunch of files..
[01:33]  * Pelo remembers that time khermans was wrong, the whole channel came to a screeching halt
[01:33] <josspyker> johnficca: brb
[01:33] <khermans> truna, yeah but not the ISO right?
[01:34] <johnficca> josspyker: ok
use any readily available md5sum checker program to to get an md5sum from the iso file and then check it against https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes!!!
[01:34] <khermans> Pelo, heh
[01:34] <truna> khermans, right, not a long list of files within the liveCD
[01:34] <asda>  a
[01:34] <bmk789> is there a good way to setup a proxy i can relay all web traffic through?
[01:34] <johnficca> Clearzen: when I first boot and run the wlan0down script I get ERROR: Module ieee80211_crypt_ccmp_rtl does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:34] <johnficca> ERROR: Module ieee80211_crypt_tkip_rtl does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:34] <johnficca> ERROR: Module ieee80211_crypt_wep_rtl does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:34] <johnficca> ERROR: Module ieee80211_crypt_rtl does not exist in /proc/modules
[01:35] <truna> tuntun  eh i already know that,  check the md5sum.txt file contents and see what i meant
[01:35] <Kevin`> bmk789 why a proxy instead of a router?
[01:35] <Pelo> bmk789, I know of an easy way fro FF but not for the rest
[01:35] <Kevin`> bmk789 squid is the defacto http proxy
[01:35] <gpm> hi. when i do ctl-atl-f1 i just see a blinking cursor, no login prompt...
[01:35] <Vixen_> If I'm wiping an external HD to put linux on, should I bother backing up my main HD, since It wouldn't be easy?
[01:35] <gpm> khermans: i fixed up usplash, i see a progress bar now.
[01:35] <khermans> bmk789, squid?
[01:35] <Pelo> johnficca, please don't do that again
[01:35] <truna> Vixen_, alwasy backup things you'd consider important
[01:35] <bmk789> Kevin`: is there a guide to setting up squid then?
[01:35] <khermans> bmk789, or tinyproxy
[01:35] <Vixen_> Fair enough
[01:35] <Vixen_> Cheers all
[01:35] <khermans> bmk789, or privoxy
[01:35] <Pelo> bmk789, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[01:36] <johnficca> Pelo: do what :-(
[01:36] <josspyker> johnficca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50555/
[01:36] <khermans> bmk789, its pretty much just an install and works out of the box for most simple scenarios
[01:36] <Kevin`> bmk789 lots of them, i'm sure
[01:36] <RequinB4> !paste | johnficca
[01:36] <ubotu> johnficca: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:36] <bmk789> great, thanks
[01:36] <Pelo> johnficca, paste several lines of error msg in here,  use the pastebin
[01:36] <khermans> bmk789, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:36] <Kevin`> bmk789 why do you need/want a proxy
[01:36] <khermans> bmk789, you know about tor + torbutton right?
[01:36] <bzwingzero> I'm trying to run Starcraft under wine. It runs extremely slow, but only when Compiz-Fusion is enabled. When compiz is disabled it runs fine. Any idea where I can find a setting that would allow starcraft to run at a normal speed with compiz?
[01:36] <josspyker> johnficca: replace wlan wich your device
[01:36] <Pelo> Kevin`,  if you need to ask you are not old enough to know
[01:37] <khermans> bzwingzero, that maks sense
[01:37] <Pelo> khermans, I just gaive him the link to tor and stuff
[01:37] <Clearzen> johnficca: If you run  insmod ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko &&
[01:37] <Clearzen> insmod ieee80211_crypt_wep-rtl.ko &&
[01:37] <Clearzen> insmod ieee80211_crypt_tkip-rtl.ko &&
[01:37] <Clearzen> insmod ieee80211_crypt_ccmp-rtl.ko;
[01:37] <Clearzen> whoops sorry
[01:37]  * Kevin` stabs Pelo with a cat
[01:37] <netlarlinux> I am on Gutsy and want to see if I can connect to a network USB wireless adapter
[01:37]  * khermans sees pelo gato muerto
[01:37] <bmk789> Kevin`: i want to relay traffic through my desktop from school over hamachi?
[01:37] <bmk789> khermans: tor?
[01:37] <netlarlinux> the model number is MA111
[01:37] <netlarlinux> How can I get it to work
[01:37] <Pelo> !wifi | netlarlinux
[01:38] <gpm> hi. when i do ctl-atl-f1 i just see a blinking cursor, no login prompt...
[01:38] <khermans> bmk789, onion routing proxy
[01:38] <johnficca> Clearzen: and then the card will work on boot
[01:38] <johnficca> ?
[01:38] <Pelo> !wifi | netlarlinux
[01:38] <Pelo> ubotu dead again ?
[01:38] <khermans> netlarlinux, plug it in
[01:38] <ubotu> netlarlinux: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dead again ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <Kevin`> bmk789 it's VERY easy to set up a squid proxy forthat purpose using just putty/ssh
[01:38] <netlarlinux> I did already
[01:38] <Kevin`> bmk789 you dont need hamachi or a seperate proxy server
[01:38] <khermans> netlarlinux, dmesg says ?
[01:38] <ogre> !fonts <imbecile
[01:38] <bzwingzero> khermans, does that mean it isn't possible to have starcraft running at a playable speed with compiz enabled?
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fonts <imbecile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <Pelo> netlarlinux,  look up the router model in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org or here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:38] <Kevin`> bmk789 erm, s/squid/socks, for that.
[01:38] <ogre> !fonts < imbecile
[01:38] <khermans> bzwingzero, it seems likely
[01:39] <Kevin`> socks proxy not squid proxy
[01:39] <tuntun> !lol
[01:39] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:39] <netlarlinux> There is nothign that happens when I plug it in
[01:39] <Pelo> ogre,  the other one
[01:39] <Kevin`> lol
[01:39] <Clearzen> It should if you can run the commands here http://pastebin.com/m464f410a and bring the card online. You may have to add the .ko files listed here to /etc/modules. I'm not entirely sure.
[01:39] <Pelo> !font
[01:39] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:39] <khermans> netlarlinux, even in dmesg ?
[01:39] <ogre> thanks
[01:39] <bmk789> khermans: whats the advantage of tor over squid?
[01:39] <netlarlinux> where is that khermans
[01:40] <khermans> bmk789, tor allows you to browse anonymously, and squid is a cahcing web proxy -- litle different
[01:40] <Pelo> bmk789, not realy a good place for debatiing relative values IM afraid, we have other cats to skin
[01:40] <khermans> netlarlinux, type 'dmesg'
[01:40] <netlarlinux> wow lots of information hold on
[01:40] <khermans> netlarlinux, dmesg | tail
[01:40] <johnficca> Clearzen: if I run that then my card will work at boot?
[01:40] <techqbert> anybody know how truecrypt holds up on an nfs share?
[01:40] <khermans> techqbert, holds up?
[01:41] <Sinister> is there a way to run a 32 bit program in 64 bit ?
[01:41] <pvl1> how do i remove a launcher from kibda-dock
[01:41] <khermans> Sinister, yes -- just run it
[01:41] <techqbert> khermans: how's data transfer?  does it work?
[01:41] <netlarlinux> should be on the end of that?
[01:41] <khermans> Sinister, you should have 32bit libs installed
[01:41] <Pelo> Sinister,  you need to install the relevant 32 bit libs
[01:41] <ed_> haha, just run it :P
[01:41] <ed_> *rofls*
[01:41] <khermans> techqbert, i am confused -- nfs allows data transfer
[01:41] <josspyker> johnficca:edit etc/network/interfaces which what i put on pastebin and it should work
[01:41] <khermans> Sinister, sudo aptitude install ia32-libs
[01:42] <Kevin`> I assume he means if it would hold up to the load of multiple clients
[01:42] <dojo> Hello, just wandering if I was to get a new graphics card and cpu would ubuntu automatically detect these changes?
[01:42] <Clearzen> johnficca: No, if you can run that and bring the card online it means you have everything you need for the card already installed and all you have to do is open up /etc/modules with a text editor and add the .ko files listed and also r8180.ko. That should bring it online at boot.
[01:42] <johnficca> josspyker: will my networkmanager still work
[01:42] <Sinister> thanks
[01:42] <netlarlinux> khermans it does show the prism2usb on the list
[01:42] <techqbert> khermans: speed-wise I mean.  are you familiar with truecrypt?
[01:42] <bmk789> Pelo, Kevin`, khermans: thanks for the help
[01:42] <khermans> dojo, i woul believe so
[01:42] <josspyker> johnficca: yes otherwise remove it and use rutils
[01:42] <khermans> techqbert, you are talking about the file encryption
[01:43] <Kevin`> bmk789 good luck, what did you decide to do?
[01:43] <dojo> khermans, thanks
[01:43] <techqbert> right
[01:43] <netlarlinux> khermans, can i pm you?
[01:43] <gpm> hi. when i do ctl-atl-f1 i just see a blinking cursor, no login prompt...
[01:43] <Ryugi> hello
[01:43] <Kevin`> gpm press enter
[01:43] <khermans> netlarlinux, i have to identify firstm but yeah
[01:43] <bmk789> Kevin`: im looking at squid configuration guides, figure i might as well use some caching
[01:43] <Sinister> i dont notice a differnce between 32 and 64 where would i see a differnce ?
[01:43] <johnficca> Clearzen: I think the problem is ubuntu has some of those file running at boot and I have to rmmod them then and the new ones from the driver
[01:44] <netlarlinux> ok, let me know khermans
[01:44] <Huhn22> kevin`:so I ran chkdsk on vista, it did not return any errors.
[01:44] <gpm> Kevin`: nada
[01:44] <khermans> Sinister, most likely you wont -- media conversion would be one area
[01:44] <Kevin`> gpm check /etc/inittab
[01:44] <khermans> like making an OGG or Vorbis file
[01:44] <Clearzen> johnficca: an easy way to tell if any of the modules are running is lsmod | grep crypt
[01:44] <Kevin`> gpm oh, try ctrl+q, just in case..
[01:44] <khermans> bmk789, firefox has a local cache
[01:45] <jizzim> merry xmas and happy new years all! i need help or maybe some suggestions/comments... :)
[01:45] <Sinister> well if i can get bitpim to work i think im gona keep ubuntu installed
[01:45] <jamalz> how to update apt sourcers
[01:46] <khermans> jamalz, sudo aptitude update
[01:46] <Clearzen> jamalz: sudo aptitude update
[01:46] <Clearzen> jamalz: or if you want to edit it gksu /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <bmk789> khermans: good point
[01:46] <johnficca> Clearzen: when I put the .ko files in my etc/modules do I need to write the .ko
[01:46] <netlarlinux> khermans, i saw on the list about something being rejected due to insuffiencent bus power
[01:46] <jamalz> now i gotta see if ubuntu supports mysql4 and php4 :/
[01:47] <Clearzen> johnficca: yeah
[01:47] <jizzim> i have a laptop... dell 512 mhz ram 1.8 ghz proc w/80 gb hd... anyways it has xp on it w/maybe virus/windows problems... ubuntu can install and i will install it..
[01:47] <rhinovirus> .
[01:47] <khermans> johnficca, should be in /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[01:47] <khermans> jizzim, nice :-P
[01:47] <gpm> Kevin`: i don't have an /etc/inittab
[01:47] <khermans> jizzim, you could even install clamav inside of ubuntu and scan the NTFS partition to fix it
[01:47] <johnficca> khermans: what do you mean
[01:48] <jizzim> anyways can i just download xp off a torrent site and burn it and use my product key on the back of my laptop?
[01:48] <khermans> netlarlinux, perhaps you need a usb 2.0 or "high speed" port
[01:48] <jizzim> thanks khermans :)
[01:48] <jizzim> good suggestion... will try that too...
[01:48] <Sinister> when i try and install bitpim it says wrong architecture 'i386' how do i fix that ?
[01:49] <Nrbelex_> Is it likely the flash issues will be sorted out in the next week or so?
[01:49] <johnficca> Clearzen: do I need to write the && at the end?
[01:49] <rodolfo> ppl, is it possible to resize a partition that is already mounted?
[01:49] <jizzim> khermans: only problem is, it doesn't recognize gutsy. i ordered 2 live cds one for amd 64 and the other one...
[01:49] <Clearzen> johnficca: no, that was my mistake
[01:50] <johnficca> ok
[01:50] <bmk789> so setting firefox to use the ip of my desktop over VPN running squid will route all my browsing through squid?
[01:50] <johnficca> Clearzen: and should I add r8180.ko
[01:50] <Clearzen> johnficca: Yes
[01:50] <jizzim> i stick in a sabayon/opensuse in... no problem
[01:51] <jizzim> live comes in... ubuntu gutsy well... problem
[01:51] <ed_> Hello - I've read much of the gutsy guide - where should I go now? More specific manuals like the GNU bash manual? The info pages?
[01:51] <khermans> bmk789, if you run squid locally
[01:51] <bmk789> khermans: ?
[01:51] <khermans> jizzim, ?
[01:51] <jizzim> i try to run a live session w/the ubuntu cd but it doesn't work.
[01:51] <khermans> jizzim, you try saf graphics mode?
[01:51] <jizzim> opensuse/sabyon linux work
[01:52] <johnficca> Clearzen: ok I'm going to reboot are you going to be on for a bit?
[01:52] <khermans> jizzim, another possibility is installing using the text mode install on the alternative installer cd
[01:52] <Clearzen> johnficca: Yeah, for a little while
[01:52] <johnficca> ok
[01:52] <jizzim> khermans: i want to install but i don't want to delete anything yet
[01:53] <crdlb> ERRORR: please stop the nickspam
[01:53] <minus198> Can someone tell me a browser that makes it possible to not use HTTP-referer?
[01:53] <khermans> jizzim, back up your data
[01:53] <netlarlinux> khermans what kind of message should i be getting?
[01:53] <Clearzen> ed_: I don't know exactly what you want to learn but here is a good guide on bash http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:53] <jizzim> i cant boot into windows
[01:54] <khermans> netlarlinux, check ifconfig -a to see if your device has registered
[01:54] <khermans> jizzim, grub-install could fix that
[01:54] <khermans> jizzim, is that your issue?
[01:55] <jizzim> yes. i think that should do it.. just make a new partition for ubuntu/keep the xp partition, then boot into ubuntu and backup data from xp partion
[01:55] <khermans> jizzim, ubuntu does this all automatically
[01:56] <jamalz> does ubuntu supports mysql 4
[01:56] <khermans> jamalz, yes
[01:56] <netlarlinux> khermans i do not see it, currently i am connected directly
[01:56] <khermans> netlarlinux, dmesg says it registered properly/
[01:56] <jizzim> khermans: okay... do you think i can install xp from a downloaded disc... i lost my copy but have the product key on the back of my pc??
[01:56] <khermans> ?
[01:56] <netlarlinux> not by name
[01:56] <happygnuyear> everytime i plug my phone in, rhythmbox starts up.  How can i stop it?
[01:57] <jamalz> i cant find it in apt-cache search mysql , all i see 5
[01:57] <khermans> jizzim, that sounds somewhat hrmpfhrmpf
[01:57] <khermans> jizzim, why do you need windows :-)
[01:57] <khermans> jamalz, it may not be in repos, but you can install it manually
[01:57] <jizzim> khermans: what do you mean? well, this is for my sister; it'll dual boot to windows or UBUNTU
[01:57] <khermans> jamalz, mysql 5.x is supported
[01:58] <bmk789> khermans: what do you mean id have to run squid locally?
[01:58] <jizzim> i don't use windows at aLL! after vista ruined my life
[01:58] <jamalz> khermans either bytefx not supported.
[01:58] <khermans> jizzim, ask your PC manuf for a windows CD
[01:58] <johnficca> clearzen: ok I'm back
[01:58] <khermans> bmk789, i said "if" you are runing squid locally -- but i think it is better to run it for many LAN hosts
[01:58] <jizzim> you think they will give it free? like ubuntu send me free live cd everytime there is a new release?
[01:59] <khermans> jizzim, vista is junk
[01:59] <khermans> jizzim, PC oem manuf may charge you
[01:59] <jizzim> khermans: i doubt it
[01:59] <khermans> jizzim, HP tried to charge me
[01:59] <bmk789> khermans: but if squid is running on my desktop i could use it to relay traffic from the laptop right?
[01:59] <khermans> yes
[01:59] <Strangewor1> I cannot type into my nautilus address bar, I changed some settings in the SCIM input method settings dialog the night before. I am assuming that if I restore them properly, control over the bar would return. Right now, I have to add Zenkaku_Hankaku to trigger keys, how do I do that?
[01:59] <jizzim> khermans: i have a dell laptop
[01:59] <khermans> jizzim, call dell!
[01:59] <johnficca> I added those files to the etc/modules and restarted when it booted back up I ran lsmod | grep crypt and it showed nothing
[02:00] <khermans> johnficca, modprobe foo
[02:00] <johnficca> Clearzen: I added those files to the etc/modules and restarted when it booted back up I ran lsmod | grep crypt and it showed nothing
[02:00] <jizzim> khermans: the problem cant be fixed by a downloaded cd? + my key?
[02:00] <rhinovirus> is there a website someone could direct me to that explains all of these apt commands?
[02:00] <johnficca> khermans: what do you mean ?
[02:00] <khermans> jizzim, what you are asking is grey area
[02:00] <yell0w_> !ppc
[02:00] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[02:00] <khermans> jizzim, software is maleable
[02:01] <khermans> johnficca, load the module manually
[02:01] <Flannel> rhinovirus: type "apt" then hit tab twice, that'll give you a list of the commands.  The big ones are apt-cache and apt-get, then see the man pages for those commands
[02:01] <jizzim> all im askin is will it be legit to get updates
[02:01] <khermans> jizzim, maybe or maybe not
[02:01] <rhinovirus> apt
[02:01] <johnficca> khermans: will it stay loaded?
[02:01] <rhinovirus> bleh
[02:01] <rhinovirus> ty
[02:01] <Clearzen> johnficca: Did you put the modules themselves in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[02:01] <khermans> johnficca, until you reboot, yes
[02:01] <Flannel> rhinovirus: Synaptic and Adept (and aptitude) provide centralized GUIs that do all/most of the apt- commands though
[02:01] <Strangewor1> I cannot type into my nautilus address bar, I changed some settings in the SCIM input method settings dialog the night before. I am assuming that if I restore them properly, control over the bar would return. Right now, I have to add Zenkaku_Hankaku to trigger keys, how do I do that?
[02:01] <johnficca> Clearzen: no
[02:02] <khermans> johnficca, find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep -i crypt
[02:02] <jizzim> khermans: dell comes preinstalled w/ubuntu.... i think we are the future!
[02:02] <Clearzen>  johnficca: I should've made that clear. /etc/modules looks there for the modules. If they are not present it will not load them.
[02:02] <jizzim> some dells that is
[02:02] <jizzim> new onees
[02:02] <yell0w_> hey guys, how can i enter BIOS in a mac ?
[02:03] <at0myx> Hello!!!!
[02:03] <khermans> !hi | at0myx
[02:03] <ubotu> at0myx: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:03] <Fukker> whats ubuntu
[02:03] <Fukker> ?
[02:03] <johnficca> khermans: it put out a lot of stuff
[02:03] <khermans> !ubuntu | Fukker
[02:03] <ubotu> Fukker: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:03] <Clearzen> Fukker: It
[02:03] <narkotix_o> nu nixuya sebe
[02:03] <netlarlinux> khermans, i think there may not be suffecient bus power to the device
[02:03] <Clearzen> Fukker: is like trolling only better
[02:03] <khermans> netlarlinux, perhaps you cant use it on that port then
[02:03] <voidmage> xfs is weird... I delete a 20GB directory and it still hasn't reported the space as free yet
[02:04] <netlarlinux> I have it connected directly to computer
[02:04] <darin_> anyone use ubuntu and a vinyl sign plotter?
[02:04] <khermans> voidmage, you could try reiser :-)
[02:04] <erichj> voidmage, that is one way of describing it.
[02:04] <voidmage> khermans: sorry, i don't trust murderers. it's my policy
[02:04] <at0myx> can someone help me with a strange GParted problem
[02:04] <khermans> voidmage, in america he is innocent until proven guity
[02:04] <netlarlinux> khermans is a murderer?
[02:04] <xobius> at0myx, what's the problem?
[02:04] <voidmage> not according to the media he isn't ;P
[02:05] <khermans> netlarlinux, he was referring to hans reiser
[02:05] <netlarlinux> oh sorry
[02:05] <darin_> in america...you are guilty until proven innocent....
[02:05] <jizzim> anyways! ubuntu rules! :P been using it since its 1st release; altho i forgot it name and number...
[02:05] <at0myx> When I installed previously I tried to delete my 2nd partition and resize the first to take the rest of the space
[02:05] <erichj> ReiserFS is awesome
[02:05] <johnficca> Clearzen: just put them all in /etc/modules/2.6.22-14*
[02:05] <Strangewor1> I cannot type into my nautilus address bar, I changed some settings in the SCIM input method settings dialog the night before. I am assuming that if I restore them properly, control over the bar would return. Right now, I have to add Zenkaku_Hankaku to trigger keys, how do I do that?
[02:05] <voidmage> it's weird though
[02:05] <khermans> darin_, you are thinking of iran
[02:05] <at0myx> xobius:  the problem was that it killed grub and I couldnt boot anymore
[02:05] <Clearzen> johnficca: Yep, that should work for you
[02:05] <darin_> khermans i live in america...and i am a felon....
[02:05] <jizzim> thanks alot for GG 7.10... thank khermans 4 all your help
[02:05] <khermans> at0myx, grub-install ?
[02:05] <at0myx> or something happened that killed my install
[02:05] <at0myx> the boot loader
[02:05] <khermans> darin_, i once was a felon
[02:06] <darin_> i AM a felon..ive been to prison
[02:06] <khermans> darin_, then I found my saviour, linux
[02:06] <Flannel> !offtopic
[02:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:06] <at0myx> I really have no idea actually.  All I know is I had to reformat and I am scared of resizing again
[02:06] <darin_> haha me too!!!
[02:06] <darin_> no more windows for me...except i have 1 problem
[02:06] <xobius> at0myx, you delete the partition where was the grub?
[02:06] <darin_> ....i cant find any software for my new plotter/printer
[02:06] <khermans> xobius, you can use gpart to recover a deleted partition
[02:07] <at0myx> I assumed grub was on the partition with ubuntu.
[02:07] <khermans> at0myx, grub is usually in the mbr
[02:07] <khermans> in the first 446 bytes
[02:07] <Flannel> grub is also in /boot, so if you delete /boot, grub wont work either
[02:07] <troythetechguy> I recently installed 7.10, and added a 2nd user.  However, the 2nd user cannot get sound.  Ideas?
[02:07] <at0myx> ok.  Then I dont know why resizing my primary killed the install
[02:07] <khermans> Flannel, for further stages yes
[02:08] <Flannel> (if you don't have a separate /boot, deleting / will delete /boot)
[02:08] <xobius> khermans,  Perhaps is better resintall the grub
[02:08] <jizzim> Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 208    when trying to start live cd 7.10....
[02:08] <khermans> xobius, sudo grub-install /dev/hda or whatever
[02:08] <darin_> laterz..no help ever in here
[02:08] <khermans> darin_, !??!
[02:08] <Clearzen> jizzim: Is the disk scratched?
[02:08] <khermans> jizzim, is common
[02:08] <xobius> khermans, is at0myx who have the problem
[02:09] <jizzim> Clearzen: its brand new... just opened up the pkg
[02:09] <at0myx> haha
[02:09] <Clearzen> jizzim: Try it again. It may be a bad burn or just bad luck.
[02:09] <jizzim> FAT: breadbrock failed
[02:09] <khermans> jizzim, could also be bad mem, check ram
[02:09] <jizzim> alot of messages
[02:09] <at0myx> I guess I just want some reassurance that if I delete my second partition again and try to resize the primary, my pc will still boot.
[02:09] <xobius> at0myx, try that command
[02:10] <at0myx> xobius:  what command?
[02:10] <jizzim> Clearzen: its an official ubuntu gg 7.10 livecd
[02:10] <jizzim> its an origina l copyu
[02:10] <at0myx> the sudo grub-install thing?
[02:10] <xobius> sudo grub-install /dev/hda or /dev/sda if you HD is SATA
[02:10] <erichj> is there a way to log all messages during boot? or is there a log for that already?
[02:10] <khermans> erichj, dmesg
[02:10] <Clearzen> jizzim: I'm assuming sda1 is a sata dvd/cd drive.
[02:10] <erichj> thanks
[02:11] <yjeffrey> if you install ubuntu on a hard drive and later put it in a computer, will the ubuntu operating system work?
[02:11] <khermans> yjeffrey, perhaps
[02:11] <khermans> yjeffrey, depends on hw and config
[02:11] <at0myx> will that ensure that deleting my second partition and resizing the first will go well?
[02:11] <|ns|nR8> you have to reconfigure xorg
[02:11] <Clearzen> yjeffrey: yes, it can.
[02:11] <|ns|nR8> yjeffrey
[02:11] <yjeffrey> ok
[02:11] <Deformative> Can ubuntu use the debian testing repositories?
[02:11] <khermans> yjeffrey, your /etc/fstab may hold you up
[02:12] <khermans> Deformative, you can choose any repos you want
[02:12] <khermans> Deformative, not recommended
[02:12] <jizzim> whats a legit torrent for GG 7?
[02:12] <Clearzen> Deformative: You could. But you would probably melt your install when you update it.
[02:12] <yjeffrey> what does the /etc/fstab do?
[02:12] <khermans> jizzim, ubuntu.com
[02:12] <khermans> yjeffrey, file-system table
[02:12] <jimcooncat_> Deformative: are you looking for some specific software?
[02:12] <yjeffrey> ok, got it
[02:12] <laughzilla> happy new yaaargh! :)
[02:12] <at0myx> xobius:  Do I run that command after resizing or before?
[02:13] <xobius> can you pastebin the partition table ?
[02:13] <khermans> at0myx, sudo fdisk -l
[02:14] <xobius> do sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[02:14] <jizzim> the requirements for GG7 is 384 mb ram; i have 512 mb ram, should i go down to dapper or fiesty?
[02:14] <khermans> jizzim, you can run xubuntu
[02:14] <laughzilla> is there some way to see flash 9 (ie: youtube, myspace, revver, break, quicksilverscreen, etc etc etc) in ubuntu? the latest flash player is apparently broken and i can't find any version that works with flash 9. any idea what the status is on that?
[02:14] <khermans> laughzilla, does the backports fix it?
[02:14] <jizzim> i don't like the way xubuntu/kubuntu looks...
[02:15] <MasterShrek> !brokenflash
[02:15] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[02:15] <khermans> jizzim, then run an older version i guess
[02:15] <laughzilla> khermans i am unfamiliar with backports, am googling now thanks.
[02:15] <kazol_> This is ridiculous, the fucking Ubuntu system fully crashed and 2 full hours of cancer cell lines research wasted because the fucking X server crashed (and NO, I'm not running shit like compiz). The system worked perfectly before, and just stopped working properly. Thanks a lot Ubuntu developers for making this piece of shit called a Linux distro.
[02:15] <jizzim> well ubuntu booted. that was pretty long load.
[02:15] <khermans> laughzilla, you can install flash manually if you really need to, but not recommended
[02:15] <Oli``> The thingy that detects USB storage devices isn't detecting them at the moment.. I've tried different types... How can I force it to refresh? (lsusb does find the new devices)
[02:15] <kazol_> I am uninstalling this shit immediately.
[02:15] <Pici> !language | kazol_
[02:15] <ubotu> kazol_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:15] <laughzilla> khermans i need it, i publish videos a lot
[02:16] <kazol_> It has worse stability than Windows.
[02:16] <Deformative> jimcooncat_: gdc on powerpc
[02:16] <jimcooncat_> good for you, kazol_!
[02:16] <khermans> kazol_, ?!?
[02:16] <at0myx> xobius: running your command, I get:  FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[02:16] <|ns|nR8> kazol_ blame ubuntu cause ur hardware is faulty
[02:16] <MasterShrek> kazol_, user error
[02:16] <troythetechguy_> what's the command to add a user to a group?
[02:16] <kazol_> The hardware is not faulty.
[02:16] <kazol_> The user did not do anything wrong.
[02:16] <|ns|nR8> how do you know for sure
[02:16] <Clearzen> kazol_: Um, the information should be recoverable if X is the only thing that went down. WTF are you doing not saving information for that long in a scientific setting anyway.
[02:16] <khermans> kazol_, i will try an experiment -- do you want free phone support :-)
[02:16] <kazol_> I'm not stupid; I've used Linux for several years.
[02:16] <Matir> kazol_, I've been running 3 ubuntu systems for over 180 days with no faults
[02:16] <khermans> kazol_, i run ubuntu since 4.10
[02:16] <xobius> at0myx, ahe you got a SATA hd?
[02:17] <Matir> kazol_, what happened when it crashed?
[02:17] <jimcooncat_> Deformative: I'd try checkinstall for something like that, using the source. Just a guess.
[02:17] <at0myx> xobius:  yeah, sorry.  I put sda instead of sda1.
[02:17] <laughzilla> :) how long should i expect to wait for an official fix on flash ?
[02:17] <at0myx> doing khermans command showed me which partition was the boot
[02:17] <Deformative> Hmm
[02:18] <xobius> cfdisk /dev/sda
[02:18] <Deformative> I think I will just try debian testing again.
[02:18] <kazol_> Matir: Everything disappeared from the screen.
[02:18] <kazol_> All open apps and icons.
[02:18] <Deformative> Or gentoo
[02:18] <khermans> laughzilla, check the bug report on launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:18] <Matir> kazol_, did you check ps to make sure it's not running in the background?
[02:18] <Matir> kazol_, and why does the app not save progress?
[02:18] <forsaken> i'm running the 8.04 alpha and it just asked me to do a dist upgrade, anyone know how i can tell what version i'm running?
[02:18] <tuntun> how can i increase the network (ethernet) polling frequency?
[02:18] <kazol_> Matir: What is not running?
[02:18] <at0myx> xobius:  ok, I did it.  what do you need here?
[02:18] <PaulEycks> Has anyone had Ubuntu 7.10 randomly crash and is there any fix?
[02:18] <laughzilla> thanks khermans.
[02:18] <kazol_> Matir: I have no idea.
[02:18] <atomdog2003> how do I install an IRC server on 7.10?
[02:18] <khermans> forsaken, #ubuntu+1
[02:19] <dsnyders> Happy New Year, Y'all!  Anyone know  a good duplicate file finder / remover program?
[02:19] <khermans> forsaken, cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:19] <xobius> at0myx,  paste bin it , I want to see it
[02:19] <khermans> dserban, beagle ?
[02:19] <khermans> at0myx, is there an option to your driver which allows it?
[02:19] <tuntun> how can i increase the network (ethernet) polling frequency?
[02:20] <khermans> PaulEycks, anything is possible
[02:20] <at0myx> xobius:  not sure what you mean by that.  khermans:  allows what?
[02:20] <khermans> at0myx, sorry meant for tuntun
[02:20] <khermans> tuntun, check drive options
[02:20] <ector> hi all!!!
[02:20] <khermans> !hi | echos
[02:20] <ubotu> echos: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:20] <tuntun> where?
[02:20] <ector> good evening...
[02:20] <khermans> doh :-(
[02:20] <atomdog2003> tuntun: why do you want to do that?
[02:20] <ector> hi khermans
[02:21] <khermans> :-)
[02:21] <xobius> at0myx,  do you know pastebin.ubuntu. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:21] <kazol_> This is an IT nightmare.
[02:21] <RedAlien1_> Hi there, I new to ubuntu and apt-get can't find any packages :S Can someone help me?
[02:21] <ector> can i ask a question?
[02:21] <khermans> RedAlien1_, sudo aptitude update
[02:21] <MasterShrek> !ask
[02:21] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:21] <tuntun> cos after i plug the patch in it takes 30~40 seconds for it to acquire
[02:21] <khermans> tuntun, over dhcp?
[02:21] <at0myx> xobius:  nope.
[02:22] <ector> ok ubotu, thnkx... i just thought it might be more polite :)
[02:22] <tuntun> yes
[02:22] <RedAlien1_> khermans: Thank you very much =)!!!
[02:22] <xobius> at0myx, copy and paste it
[02:22] <khermans> tuntun, that could be your network or dhcp server
[02:22] <yjeffrey> why is it called ubuntu?
[02:22] <at0myx> xobius:  done.
[02:22] <ector> my question... i've been trying to boot ubuntu like for decades... and it just halts...
[02:22] <khermans> yjeffrey, it is an african word
[02:22] <ector> it's an african word
[02:22] <xobius> at0myx, where?
[02:22] <atomdog2003> how do I install an IRC server?
[02:22] <dsnyders> yjeffrey, Because "Vista" was taken?
[02:22] <MasterShrek> ector, where does it fail to load?
[02:22] <khermans> atomdog2003, aptitude search ircd
[02:22] <at0myx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50559/
[02:22] <tuntun> i know it isn't becuase sometimes it will take 1 second and another 40 seconds, which means its the polling frequency
[02:23] <ector> at the loading bar... it fills three sqares up and very little of the fourth
[02:23] <khermans> ector, at what point?
[02:23] <ector> i don't know what point it is because i can not see any steps... i just get to see the bar
[02:23] <khermans> ector, can you hit escape or ctrl-alt-F1/2/3/4... etc for status ?
[02:23] <ector> the progress loading bar
[02:23] <MasterShrek> ector, edit your grub entry and remove quite and splash from the kernel line, then see what it errors or hangs on when its booting
[02:23] <yjeffrey> ok, well is there a free way to run windows programs in ubuntu?
[02:23] <MasterShrek> !wine | yjeffrey
[02:23] <ubotu> yjeffrey: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:23] <khermans> yjeffrey, wine
[02:23] <RB2> MasterShrek, you mean quiet and splash?
[02:24] <xobius> at0myx, the system root in what partition is?
[02:24] <ector> ok.. in linux i'm at 0 level.. can you please tell me where i do that?
[02:24] <tuntun> khermans:i know it isn't a dhcp issue becuase sometimes it will take 1 second and another 40 seconds, which means its the polling frequency
[02:24] <Clearzen> yjeffrey: wine or vmware if you want a windows system inside of ubuntu I guess
[02:24] <MasterShrek> yes RB2 i meant quiet
[02:24] <khermans> ector, on  boot hit ESC then 'b'
[02:24] <khermans> whoops 'e'
[02:24] <khermans> you will see the options
[02:24] <xobius> at0myx, cfdisk /dev/sda  not /dev/sda1
[02:24] <PaulEycks> Has anyone had Ubuntu 7.10 randomly crash and is there any fix?
[02:24] <ector> at the boot screen where i see th eoptions?
[02:24] <khermans> tuntun, do you see any error messages in your logs?
[02:24] <ector> esc and then e?
[02:24] <ector> and then what?
[02:24] <khermans> tuntun, are you using Network Manager?
[02:25] <MasterShrek> ector, when you are booting, at your grub menu, press e on the first ubuntu entry, then go to the line that says kernel, and hit e again, remove quiet and splash and hit enter, then hit b to boot
[02:25] <khermans> tuntun, try w/o networkmanager
[02:25] <at0myx> xobius:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50560/
[02:25] <neo_linux_noob> hello room; i need help
[02:25] <xobius> at0myx,  the partition that you want to rezise is the system root?
[02:25] <RB2> MasterShrek, Just checking, because I didn't know if quite was actually a valid parameter.
[02:25] <khermans> ector, then remove the splash and quiet options, and hit 'b'
[02:25] <tuntun> khermans:what does network manager do?
[02:25] <MasterShrek> RB2, i dont think it is...
[02:25] <at0myx> xobius:  I want to delete sda3 and resize sda1 to take up the new space.
[02:25] <khermans> tuntun, it uhh ... manages your network settings
[02:26] <khermans> !networkmanager  | tuntun
[02:26] <ubotu> tuntun: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> I cant log in to my user
[02:26] <xobius> at0myx, perhaps it isn't posible
[02:26] <at0myx> xobius:  why not?
[02:26] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, reset your passwd
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> will someone please help
[02:26] <fantum13> neo_linux_noob: what's up?
[02:26] <tuntun> khermans:I poked around and couldnt find an option to change polling freq. its prolly in atext file somewhere
[02:26] <xobius> at0myx, because it is in extend partition
[02:26] <neo_linux_noob> I got this error message
[02:26] <dsnyders> How do I find/remove duplicate files?
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> " GDM could not write your authorization file . This
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> could mean that you are out of disk space or that your
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> home directory could not be opened for writing . In any
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> case it is not possible to login. Contact system administrator ."
[02:27] <at0myx> sda2 is an extended partition.  sda3 is a fat32.
[02:27] <xobius> at0myx,  and your root is prymary partition
[02:27] <tuntun> khermans:cat5, not wireless
[02:27] <fantum13> !paste
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <xobius> are differsnt
[02:27] <khermans> dsnyders, find / -type f | while read line; do md5sum "$line"; ....
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> Can anyone explain this error msg?
[02:27] <ector> ok master... i'll do that
[02:27] <xobius> at0myx, is beter move your home directory
[02:27] <ector> ( i was writing it down... hehe)
[02:27] <khermans> pipe to uniq or inverse
[02:27] <neo_linux_noob> its the same on all my other user as well.
[02:28] <ector> i think i did that before and it stops at some numbers
[02:28] <kikabola> i just installed 7.1 and i was wondering if someone could help me connect to my wireless?
[02:28] <xobius> at0myx,  in a new partition
[02:28] <khermans> tuntun, network manager also manages wired
[02:28] <ector> will i have to do that every time
[02:28] <neo_linux_noob> i can only log in to Gnome on my Ubuntu with 'root'.
[02:28] <khermans> !wireless | kikabola
[02:28] <ubotu> kikabola: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <fantum13> neo_linux_noob: Are you sure you're not out of space on the drive?
[02:28] <kikabola> thanks iĺl check it out.
[02:28] <Clearzen> neo_linux_noob: It shouldn't let you login with root at all. What did you change?
[02:28] <ector> i have a GE FORCE 5200LE video card...
[02:28] <MasterShrek> neo_linux_noob, remove any .gnome folder in your user's home dir then try again
[02:29] <neo_linux_noob> ok
[02:29] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, log in as root; df -h; check user exists and passwd is set
[02:29] <at0myx> xobius:  So I cant simply delete sda3 which is fat32 and resize sda1 which is ext format?
[02:29] <khermans> at0myx, just use gparted ?
[02:29] <fantum13> So everyone, I'm setting up an encryption scheme on my Ubuntu, should I use AES, Serpent or Twofish?
[02:29] <at0myx> khermans:  I tried it once and my pc didn't boot anymore.
[02:30] <khermans> fantum13, i used twofish
[02:30] <xobius> at0myx, you should rezize the extended partition, next rezize the primary partition.
[02:30] <neo_linux_noob>  .gnome2_private
[02:30] <dsnyders> khermans, I have several backup folders within backup folders. Will this procedure help?
[02:30] <MasterShrek> neo_linux_noob, yes
[02:30] <khermans> at0myx, oops!
[02:30] <fantum13> I'm struggling between serpent and twofish... Someone push me in a direction
[02:30] <gotamatw> Hi! How can I install a lexmark z600 compatible printer on Gutsy, AMD64?
[02:30] <khermans> dsnyders, md5sum will show files which have the sam exact content
[02:30] <xobius> at0myx, it is very danger
[02:30] <khermans> not different revisions
[02:31] <khermans> !printers | gotamatw
[02:31] <ubotu> gotamatw: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, perhaps you will lose all
[02:31] <neo_linux_noob> ok i did the df -h
[02:31] <at0myx> xobius:  hmmm.  that sucks
[02:31] <neo_linux_noob> do you need the output?
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, howevwr
[02:31] <khermans> neo_linux_noob, anything under "avail" ?
[02:31] <at0myx> xobius:  I thought that when you delete a partition, it removes the formatting.
[02:31] <xobius> at0myx, you can use that space
[02:31] <khermans> at0myx, deleting a prtition removes it from the partiiton table
[02:32] <floatingredwagon> hey all.  Graphical glitch in ubuntu with nvidia drivers... all the windows are completely white.  Somebody told me a command earlier today to fix it... anyone know it?
[02:32] <xobius> at0myx,  you can mount (and move) any directory
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> /dev/sda2              25G   13G   11G  54% /
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> varrun                316M  212K  315M   1% /var/run
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> varlock               316M     0  316M   0% /var/lock
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> udev                  316M   84K  316M   1% /dev
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> devshm                316M     0  316M   0% /dev/shm
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> lrm                   316M   34M  282M  11% /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile
[02:32] <neo_linux_noob> sure
[02:32] <khermans> floatingredwagon, disable compiz?
[02:32] <khermans> !pastebin | neo_linux_noob
[02:32] <ubotu> neo_linux_noob: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <troythetechguy> after adding user to group, I still cannot get sound for user # 2.  Must I reboot for changes to take effect?
[02:32] <xobius> at0myx, in a new partition
[02:32] <dsnyders> neo_linux_noob, Use pastebin when you're posting multiple lines
[02:33] <steven_> Hi does anybody know if they fixed the flash file for linux ubuntu?
[02:33] <floatingredwagon> about to update drivers to make compiz work... but need the temporary fix.  It was [command] --[single parameter]...  both fairly close to english words.
[02:33] <Juhaz> metacity --replace
[02:33] <floatingredwagon> that's the one.  Thank you Juhaz!
[02:33] <neo_linux_noob> sorry im reading
[02:33] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, you can just do:   df -hT -x usbfs -x tmpfs          and not have all the unneeded lines of output that way, so you can just paste that one line of output instead
[02:33] <caner> i am using ubuntu 7.10 and it cannot automount usb devices (mouse,flash memory etc.) once they are plugged. but if thr device is already plugged while the system starts then it can detect and mount (or use.). where is the problem??
[02:33] <xobius> at0myx,  for example you can move the home, var an use that space
[02:33] <crdlb> floatingredwagon: metacity --replace ?
[02:33] <crdlb> ah oops
[02:34] <gotamatw> The examples there are for i386 architecture. I need for AMD 64. Is there any difference. Lexmark printer z600
[02:34] <neo_linux_noob> /dev/sda2     ext3     25G   13G   11G  54% /
[02:34] <neo_linux_noob> lol i really am a noob
[02:34] <at0myx> xobius:  hmmm.  I was just hoping to have it all in one.  So my only options are to do a dangerous resize or rearrange my files?
[02:34] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, don't worry, most of the people in this channel probably never knew you could do that ;)
[02:35] <khermans> gotamatw, should be similar
[02:35] <xobius> at0myx, No is very esay an better
[02:35] <neo_linux_noob> lol ;-)
[02:35] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: Do you know how to fix my problem>?
[02:35] <ector> khermans?
[02:35] <at0myx> xobius:  no to which option?
[02:35] <ector> shrek?
[02:35] <khermans> ector, ?
[02:35] <Nicolaidis> hello...do someone know cairo-dock?
[02:35] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, what is your problem?  I was just passing through this channel and saw that little part, and that's all...
[02:35] <khermans> Nicolaidis, kibadock ?
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> Does anyone know a solution to get past the error above?
[02:36] <ector> it stopped at 59.606968
[02:36] <Nicolaidis> no, cairo-dock
[02:36] <xobius> at0myx,  because if you move the home, whe it is full the system continue working
[02:36] <ector> i removed the quiet and the splash
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: GDM could not write your authorization file .
[02:36] <khermans> ector, now press 'b'
[02:36] <floatingredwagon> now that it's running right ... how do i open compiz/beryl options?
[02:36] <khermans> ESC then 'b'
[02:36] <ector> i did
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> This
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> could mean that you are out of disk space or that your
[02:36] <neo_linux_noob> home directory could not be opened for writing .
[02:36] <ector> i did
[02:36] <ector> and it stopped again
[02:36] <khermans> ector, it boots?
[02:36] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, okay, well you're not out of disk space
[02:36] <tab> how do you install git on ubuntu?
[02:37] <gotamatw> When I tried ./z600, I don't get any answer. just bash: ./z600: No such file or directory
[02:37] <khermans> ector, but now you see error messaes?
[02:37] <ector> no it does'nt
[02:37] <neo_linux_noob> ok
[02:37] <khermans> ector, just hangs?
[02:37] <ector> no error messages... it just stopped at some 59.606968 line
[02:37] <ector> yes
[02:37] <at0myx> xobius:  ok.  i guess I dont have much choice
[02:37] <khermans> ector, what PC is this?
[02:37] <xobius> at0myx, the partitions are used for optimize the space of hd
[02:37] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, so do this:    mount | grep sda2          and paste the output here
[02:37] <ector> pentium IV
[02:37] <ector> 1mg
[02:37] <Nicolaidis> i need plug-ins for cairo-dock...can someone help me?
[02:37] <ector> intel processor
[02:37] <khermans> ector, what model machine?
[02:38] <khermans> ector, or home buit?
[02:38] <yummymummy>  it is defaulting to nstalled ubuntu and i cant manually by the screen resolution program change the screen res to x
[02:38] <ector> it's a clon?
[02:38] <ector> built
[02:38] <khermans> ector, hrm
[02:38] <ector> a clone, we call it here
[02:38] <khermans> ector, mobo?
[02:38] <ector> hrm?
[02:38] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid:  /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:38] <khermans> ector, if it is a clone, could be bad hw design
[02:38] <ector> i went to a store and said: "this hard disc, that video adapter"
[02:38] <khermans> ector, try booting knoppix
[02:38] <ector> oh, god
[02:38] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, hmm, so how are you logged in and typing these commands, exactly?
[02:38] <xobius> at0myx,  here there is an example http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/partitioning-p1.xml?style=printable
[02:38] <ector> knoppix wont boot.. i've already tried it
[02:38] <yell0w_> hey guys, which channel is the one for ubuntu on macs ?
[02:38] <ector> knoppix, slax, freeduc, gOS
[02:39] <khermans> ector, sounds like an issue with the hadrare
[02:39] <ector> yes...
[02:39] <khermans> ector, try updating the BIOS?
[02:39] <ector> i have an nvidia GE force
[02:39] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: I am logged in as 'root' in Gnome.
[02:39] <ector> could that be the problem?
[02:39] <khermans> remove all periphials and move foward
[02:39] <xobius> at0myx, is for gentoo, but workin in ubuntu too
[02:39] <ector> how do i update the BIOS?
[02:39] <khermans> ector, until you can boot
[02:39] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the bouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)
[02:39] <astro76> !rootirc | neo_linux_noob
[02:39] <ubotu> neo_linux_noob: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[02:39] <khermans> !bios | ector
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, okay, so you can log in, just not with your normal user account, right?
[02:39] <ector> ajah
[02:40] <yell0w_> hey guys, which channel is the one for ubuntu on macs ?
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> right
[02:40] <frew> The lib32ncurses5_5.6+20071224-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb package (current one on hardy) doesn't seem to contain libncurses.* in it (it's not anywhere in data.tar.gz if I open up the deb). Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
[02:40] <khermans> ector, updating bios is off topic here
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, and ubotu is right
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> right
[02:40] <astro76> yell0w_, #ubuntu-ppc I think
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, what irc client are you using?
[02:40] <neo_linux_noob> gnome
[02:40] <bazhang> yell0w_: yeah thats the one iirc
[02:40] <shaft0> If I create a software raid5 array in Gutsy using 2x500gb drives that are empty, and I have 7x500gb drives on a windows box, can i transfer 1 of the windows drives to the RAID array, then format to ext3, and then add that drive to the array, and do the same with the rest of the disks to create a no-data-lost raid5 array?
[02:40] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, no, the name of the irc program?
[02:40] <ector> i see... that means we can not talk about it?
[02:40] <yell0w_> tx bazhang  astro76
[02:40] <yummymummy>  i just installed ubuntu and i cant manually by the screen resolution program change the screen res to 1024 x 768 and it is defaulting to 1600 x 1200 or whatever the biggest size is its confuseing and wont let me change it so as i allready use ubuntu on mu actual computer ( this is my wifes) i thought i may be able to change the x11 xorg.conf file and so i opened it bu tthere is no screen size its got a dpms spot butthat is not it i thought so any advic
[02:40] <astro76> yell0w_, #ubuntu-powerpc
[02:40] <Tonren> I know this is a Kubuntu question, but I figured I'd ask in here too:
[02:41] <tribaldata> Guys anything better then wireless assistant that you could recommend ?
[02:41] <Tonren> Can anyone explain the error I'm getting in k3b when I try to burn a DVD ISO image?  http://rafb.net/p/ZAVGB065.html
[02:41] <Oli``> Anybody know a good, simple, GUI-based video transcoding tool (eg converting uncompressed avi to xvid, or xvid to flv, etc)
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, it'll probably be in help->about on the window
[02:41] <khermans> shadowxp, try with dmraid
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, anyway, probably better to not actually say it in here
[02:41] <Tonren> Oli``: Try googling "tovid"
[02:41] <khermans> shaft0, ^^
[02:41] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the bouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)
[02:41] <xobius> Oli``, perhaps konverter
[02:41] <khermans> shaft0, man dmraid
[02:41] <neo_linux_noob> xchat-gnome
[02:41] <ector> on thing is for sure... i won't be able to install the drivers if i can not boot, is taht true?
[02:41] <jocke> What is the difference between universe and the other one?
[02:41] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, but try typing that name (in all lowercase) in the shell, and hitting tab to see if it autocompletes to something
[02:41] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the mouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)*
[02:41] <Oli``> Tonren: I've got tovid installed actually... lol
[02:41] <Azrael> hi guys...I have a camcorder and I've been trying to get 7.10 to import/capture video from the device, and keep getting this "the IEEE 1394 Subsystem is not responding"...please help and advise
[02:42] <Oli``> xobius: I'll give it a look, thank you
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, universe are free license where multiverse is restricted somehow
[02:42] <yummymummy> !universe
[02:42] <neo_linux_noob> solid_liquid: I have done that
[02:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:42] <ector> so i should not worry about the graphic adapter and focus in something else...
[02:42] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, if it does, then exit this irc session and then run    sudo ircprogramname        whatever ircprogramname is right for the program
[02:42] <jocke> khermans, but isn't there another one also?
[02:42] <yummymummy> !multiverse
[02:42] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, er,    sudo yourusername ircprogramname
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, main restricted universe multiverse
[02:42] <khermans> an partner
[02:42] <jocke> which is free but not universe
[02:42] <jocke> aha
[02:42] <jocke> main
[02:42] <khermans> jocke, main
[02:42] <Oli``> Tonren: yeah tovid is all about converting to DVD
[02:42] <jocke> what is the difference between main and universe then
[02:42] <khermans> restrcited is like 10 packages
[02:43] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, er,    sudo -u yourusername ircprogramname
[02:43] <khermans> jocke, main is fully supported
[02:43] <solid_liquid> neo_linux_noob, heh, that last one
[02:43] <Tonren> Oli``: Ooh.  Sorry... just threw it out there.
[02:43] <at0myx> xobius:  I don't understand.  I thought /home, /etc, /bin, bla bla bla are all ONE partition.  this page is saying /home is its own partition
[02:43] <neo_linux_noob> g2g bbl
[02:43] <danfg> i'm trying to remove sendmail with aptitude purge sendmail and aptitude is failing with "FATAL -> Failed to fork."
[02:43] <jocke> fully supported?
[02:43] <floatingredwagon> how do I open Compiz Config Settings Manager?
[02:43] <khermans> at0myx, they can if you want
[02:43] <Oli``> Tonren: yeah no probs. thanks for your input
[02:43] <yummymummy> !compiz
[02:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[02:43] <shaft0> khermans: MDADM won't do it?
[02:43] <NiteFire> anyone know a good IDE for C++ to develope for Gutsy Gibson ?
[02:43] <khermans> shaft0, mdadm is for soft raid
[02:44] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, kdevelop, eclipse, anjuta
[02:44] <khermans> shaft0, if that what you have then fine
[02:44] <shaft0> khermans: i'm wanting to do a software raid
[02:44] <khermans> shaft0, then yes, man mdadm :-)
[02:44] <PaulEycks> <NiteFire, Use Eclipse
[02:44] <shaft0> i have it all printed out, :P
[02:44] <at0myx> khermans:  the page is implying they are normally on their own partitions.  But when I install ubuntu for example, all those directories are in the drive called filesystem.  Isn't that all one partition?
[02:44] <shaft0> just haven't read through the whole thing, just checking I can add to the array without losing data
[02:44] <shaft0> yes/no?
[02:45] <NiteFire> Solid: do you have a preference ?
[02:45] <khermans> at0myx, by default ubuntu doesnt separate those directories on separate partitioins
[02:45] <khermans> shaft0, perhaps
[02:45] <chealdo> dudes can we use kopete in ubuntu gibbon? i like to use it bcoz it has webcam support than the default messenger pidgin
[02:45] <ector> how do i uninstall ubuntu and its partition?
[02:45] <xobius> at0myx, Often-modified files contribute heavily to fragmentation. One of the best ways to contain fragmentation is to store often-modified files on their own partition.
[02:45] <khermans> chealdo, aptitude install kopete
[02:45] <khermans> ector, uninstall?
[02:45] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, everyone has their own pref, personally I use vim, others use emacs, and those who must have a regular IDE use one of those I listed, or even something else
[02:45] <ector> yep
[02:45] <khermans> ector, just write over it
[02:46] <at0myx> khermans: oh ok.  I thought I lost all sense for a moment.
[02:46] <xobius> at0myx,  look at this http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/partitioning-p2.xml?style=printable
[02:46] <ector> the partition?
[02:46] <shaft0> perhaps? what leads to the maybe aspect of the question?
[02:46] <astro76> ector, you don't really uninstall, just install another OS over top
[02:46] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, if you really want more advice on it, you can always ask in ##linux-coders
[02:46] <chealdo> khermans, but no voice yet right?
[02:46] <shaft0> like, what would make it work/not work?
[02:46] <khermans> chealdo, voice?
[02:46] <ector> i come here to windows and then write over it?
[02:46] <chealdo> i mean voice chat
[02:46] <NiteFire> thankyou I will go there
[02:46] <solid_liquid> NiteFire, but you're probably going to want to try out a few for yourself, to see what you like best
[02:46] <ector> but i can not make any linux distribution work on this pc...
[02:46] <khermans> chealdo, i use ekiga
[02:46] <dmakalsky> Hi, how do I set up video conf with MS netmeeting clients?
[02:46] <ector> so i need to free that space
[02:47] <khermans> dmacnutt, ouch
[02:47] <at0myx> xobius:  I understand now.  I guess I will not try and resize the partition and just move /home
[02:47] <chealdo> khermans, does ekiga supports yhoo messenger?
[02:47] <khermans> dmakalsky, heh maybe not so easy
[02:47] <khermans> chealdo, pidgin does
[02:47] <xobius> at0myx, the home or any other directory
[02:47] <dmakalsky> khermans, so let me generalize
[02:47] <dmakalsky> forget netmeeting
[02:47] <khermans> chealdo, i use gizmo for voip
[02:47] <at0myx> xobius:  well, whichever is needed.
[02:47] <dmakalsky> how do I just video conf with windows folks
[02:47] <chealdo> khermans, so gizmo can call yahoo
[02:48] <khermans> dmacnutt, ekiga *might* work, not sure
[02:48] <astro76> dmakalsky, gizmo client is available for both windows and linux
[02:48] <xobius> at0myx, so you will use that space witnout change the root partition
[02:48] <khermans> chealdo, gizmo is a paid vpip service
[02:48] <astro76> gizmo is free IP to IP though
[02:48] <ector> and how do i uninstall that grug thing?
[02:48] <astro76> free video cht
[02:48] <dmakalsky> astro76, and it does cross platform video chat?
[02:48] <at0myx> yep.  sounds like the best plan.
[02:48] <John[1]> hello, can someone see what is wrong with this code http://pastie.caboo.se/134284.....it is saying that the array subscript i tried to access is not there....but i dont see how.
[02:49] <astro76> dmakalsky, yes
[02:49] <chealdo> khermans, well i might use kopete rather than anything else yet for chatting hope they dev for voice chat
[02:49] <khermans> dmakalsky, i believe ekiga is the best there is
[02:49] <at0myx> XOBIUS, KHERMANS:  thanks for the help.  I appreciate it.
[02:49] <chealdo> khermans, ekiga supports voice and webcam?
[02:49] <xobius> at0myx, I think that is the best solution, but if you want do , do it
[02:49] <khermans> at0myx, np
[02:49] <khermans> !ekiga | chealdo
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <dmakalsky> khermans, so how does the windows user use ekiga?
[02:50] <xobius> at0myx, thanks
[02:50] <khermans> dmakalsky, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekiga
[02:50] <ogre>  hey guys, im pretty new to linux i am on ubuntu gutsy and am having trouble getting a certain .conkyrc to work and was wondering if anyone could help. I have a patebin of errors, my conkyrc and links to a screenshot of what its supposed to look like. here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3230/
[02:50] <chealdo> khermans, ok i'll try but does ekiga has installer for windows?
[02:50] <khermans> chealdo, yes and works with netmeeting supposedly
[02:51] <chealdo> khermans, ok tnx very much for the info
[02:51] <khermans> chealdo, np
[02:51] <ector> i get it now... i have both windows and ubuntu on my pc... how do i uninstall ubuntu without affecting windowsXP?
[02:52] <khermans> ector, fdisk /mbr
[02:52] <truna> ector why not remove xp instead?
[02:52] <ramza3> anybody know where I can return firefox, I want my money back
[02:52] <khermans> ramza3, !!
[02:52] <chealdo> khermans, oh another thing do you have idea on how to rdesktop my wife computer in her office?
[02:52] <khermans> ramza3, talk to netscape
[02:52] <ector> because ubuntu is not booting... that's what i wanted to: remove XP... but it seems it wont work with ubuntu
[02:52] <khermans> chealdo, yes, rdesktop
[02:52] <ramza3> khermans, well at least FF2+.  I want 1+ back
[02:52] <truna> aol will stop support of netscape come february
[02:53] <khermans> ramza3, you can donload it
[02:53] <frankrizz> for #sudo apt-get install libsdl-stretch-dev
[02:53] <chealdo> khermans, can i connect it thru web caonnection?
[02:53] <frankrizz> I keep getting errors
[02:53] <khermans> chealdo, yes
[02:53] <frankrizz> how do i install this
[02:53] <th0r> ramza3 download the 3 beta....it is much better than 2
[02:53] <ector> khermans, that fdisk /mbr where do i write it? windows command line?
[02:53] <khermans> chealdo, over RDP, if thats what you mean
[02:53] <ramza3> th0r, yea, but the adobe flash plugin is still broken.  It is better though.  I will need to check out FF Beta 2
[02:53] <chealdo> khermans, what do you think i'll dial to her ip add or the brodcast ad
[02:54] <khermans> chealdo, perhaps, or open the port
[02:54] <th0r> ramza3 well...I am running suse on the laptop and flash works there. Using ubuntu for the server....no need for flash
[02:54] <Task> Can someone help me with btnx? I assign the keys to the mouse but for some reason it still doesnt detect the different keys I set it to in my game (Counter Strike)*
[02:55] <ogre>  hey guys, im pretty new to linux i am on ubuntu gutsy and am having trouble getting a certain .conkyrc to work and was wondering if anyone could help. I have a patebin of errors, my conkyrc and links to a screenshot of what its supposed to look like. here it is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3230/
[02:55] <chealdo> khermans, shes using XP and she wants to fix something.but what i know XP has remote connection thing but thats somehow another story
[02:55] <zcat[1]> Moo!
[02:55] <ogre> oops sorry for reposting so soon
[02:55] <xtas> this nvidia driver install is more difficult than I thought ;)
[02:56] <zcat[1]> xtas: really?
[02:56] <xtas> well kinda ;)
[02:56] <Task> lol
[02:56] <Task> try ATI
[02:56] <khermans> chealdo, try something like webex
[02:56] <ector> i can not see the partition in windows so i can not format it and ubuntu is not booting so i can not see it... how can i recover this space?
[02:56]  * Task sold my ATI card
[02:56] <chealdo> khermans, hehehe your bc attending some querries ha
[02:56] <xtas> Task: I've tried ati once before and managed to get it work
[02:56] <khermans> ector, boot into ubuntu live cd, delete ubuntu partition, and resize ntfs
[02:57] <ector> ubuntu live cd halts too...
[02:57] <khermans> ector, how did you ever install linux?
[02:57] <ector> unless i can do that in the first screen
[02:57] <ector> with the alternate ubuntu cd
[02:57] <ector> it was just a text mode
[02:57] <chealdo> khermans, ok i'll check the ekiga and webex
[02:57] <khermans> ector, windows disk manager can delete it too
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> hi, what would I use to transfer files to/from another ubuntu computer on the LAN?
[02:58] <khermans> ector, why dont you like ubuntu?
[02:58] <ector> believeme, i've walked a long way to install it with no success :'(
[02:58] <truna> Moduliz0r, scp
[02:58] <zcat[1]> I really hate answering 'how do I uninstall Linux' questions
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> without having to do magic configs
[02:58] <khermans> Moduliz0r, nfs / ssh ?
[02:58] <ector> windows disk manager cant see the partition
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> needs to be really quick
[02:58] <truna> Moduliz0r, scp
[02:58] <xtas> If glxgears says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:58] <xtas>  that means I don't have driver installed right ? :-D
[02:58] <khermans> ector, it cant interpret the partitition, but surely it can delte it
[02:58] <Traveler20> what's ubuntu?
[02:58] <Moduliz0r> truna: doesn't scp need ssh to be installed on the remote host?
[02:58] <jtholmes> Moduliz0r, rsync
[02:59] <khermans> xtas, need 3d driver
[02:59] <khermans> !ubuntu | Traveler20
[02:59] <ubotu> Traveler20: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <truna> Moduliz0r, yours have ssh loaded?
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> i like scp but the remote host doesnt want ssh installed
[02:59] <IdleOne> !ubuntu | Traveler20
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> I don't mind installing it on mine
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, yes
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, then nfs, ftp, etc
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> argh
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> anything that doesn't need to have a config written?
[02:59] <truna> Moduliz0r, they are on same lan?
[02:59] <khermans> Moduliz0r, web server?
[02:59] <Moduliz0r> yes
[03:00] <ector> yes, but i don't get to see anything that looks like a partition here in windows... it just shows my hard disk like nothing's happening, but only with 30gb less
[03:00] <Moduliz0r> khermans: web servers need nasty configs
[03:00] <khermans> ector, do you know how to use the windows disk manager?
[03:00] <truna> Moduliz0r, you can use netcat create a simple server..one line command
[03:00] <ector> those 30GB are missing now
[03:00] <Moduliz0r> how?
[03:00] <khermans> it is not in my computer dude
[03:00] <ector> how?
[03:00] <cyphase> how much RAM does Xubuntu need?
[03:00] <om_> j #help
[03:00] <truna> Moduliz0r, google for  netcat one line command server
[03:00] <ector> where is it? i mean... in My PC every thing looks normal... do you mean another aplication?
[03:01] <Moduliz0r> k
[03:01] <khermans> ector, right-click "manage"
[03:01] <khermans> on my compyuter
[03:01] <khermans> go to disk snapin
[03:01] <khermans> mmc
[03:01] <khermans> this is off topic for ubuntu
[03:01]  * khermans tires...
[03:02] <ector> ok khermans... tyou :)
[03:02] <khermans> ector, np
[03:02] <IdleOne> !nickspam | mike-huckabee
[03:02] <ubotu> mike-huckabee: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy 666245 c
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[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <ector> thnx kherman... i hope i can manage to install ubuntu when i get another less problematic computer
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <khermans> ector, np
[03:03] <truna> Moduliz0r, http://www.stearns.org/doc/nc-intro.current.html
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <crdlb> !ops | JJHardy
[03:03] <ubotu> JJHardy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <JJHardy> my name is candy
[03:03] <Moduliz0r> thanks
[03:05] <koloa> hey help?!?!?!?!
[03:05] <|ns|nR8> hooh
[03:05] <xtas> I think glx drivers are now installed when I get over 7000FPS in glxgears.
[03:05] <koloa> anyone have chroot setup on ubuntu feisty?
[03:05] <Ryuki> Hmm.. it don't fix
[03:05] <rbs-tito> IdleOne: Sorry, a running joke in ##ronpaul !!
[03:05] <Ryuki> oh well what is the channel for Xubuntu again?
[03:06] <rbs-tito> #xubuntu
[03:06] <koloa> anyone? i keep getting /bin/bash no such file exists....=(
[03:06] <facted> hey everyone, just installed Gutsy, and my speakers were working well...but after a failed restart from "suspend mode" where I had to press ctrl-alt-del to get out of the restart, the speakers are no longer working
[03:06] <koloa> yet they do exist in chroot folder.
[03:06] <facted> does anyone know how I can reinstall the speaker "drivers" so to speak?
[03:07] <facted> the audio is on-board
[03:07] <IdleOne> !sound
[03:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:07] <facted> thanks a lot (alsa is selected...checked that already)
[03:07] <facted> what is !sound?
[03:08] <rbs-tito> koloa: Try making a symlink in /usr/bin to wherever you have bash installed
[03:08] <tribaldata> facted: trigger to have info on something specific
[03:08] <koloa> rbs-tito, i do
[03:08] <facted> gotcha
[03:08] <rbs-tito> koloa: Did you delete bash or something?
[03:08] <koloa> rbs-tito, i used this script http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5942
[03:08] <PurpZeY> You can delete bash?
[03:09] <PurpZeY> !nickchange
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickchange - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <koloa> rbs-tito, bash exists....i tried chaning the landing folder of the user, but no avail
[03:09] <Beetle_> Hey guys I downloaded and installed a game called angband from the repositories however it doesn't show up anywhere under "Applications" is it bugged or do I need to do something?
[03:09] <rbs-tito> koloa: I'm not going to advise you on that sorry, I'm not confident enough not to break it further!
[03:10] <khermans> Beetle_, run from command line
[03:10] <tribaldata> facted: so what your trouble again ?
[03:10] <Beetle_> khermans thanks
[03:10] <koloa> rbs-tito, thanks..
[03:10] <koloa> rbs-tito, i will look further, i think other folks are experiencing similiar
[03:12] <nrdb> how do I find out what version of ubuntu I am running ?
[03:13] <jtholmes> nrdb cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:13] <nrdb> jtholmes: thanks
[03:14] <jtholmes> nrdb sure
[03:15] <nrdb> I am running 6.06 and I need to upgrade to 7.10, I have backed up the /home and /etc directories.  what is the best way to do this ?
[03:15] <disc> I went to install 3dDesktop and apt-get says there is no such package....has it been removed from the repositories?
[03:15] <PurpZeY> nrdb: You have to walk upwards.
[03:16] <jtholmes> nrdb if i am not mistaken you have to first upgrade to 7.04 then 7.10 if i am wrong someone will correct me
[03:16] <disc> nrdb, you have to upgrade to 6.10, 7.04, and then 7.10
[03:16] <jtholmes> ah, yes 6.10 slipped in there
[03:16] <nrdb> PurpZeY: by doing    gksu “update-manager -c ”   several times ?
[03:16] <facted> reinstalled the sound component and it works great now :) thanks for the help
[03:16] <FrostRat> won't the next LTS release let you upgrade to it from 6.06?
[03:17] <PurpZeY> !upgrade
[03:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:17] <disc> so no one has an answer to my 3ddesktop question?
[03:17] <navetz> can somebody help me fix this: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:17] <navetz> thats what i get when i type alsamixer into a terminal
[03:17] <panoman> this is a dumb question
[03:18] <disc> panoman, ????
[03:18] <navetz> ... if its dumb is it easy to fix?
[03:18] <disc> panoman, my question or navetz question?
[03:18] <panoman> how do I change the permision on www file
[03:18] <disc> panoman, man chmod
[03:18] <panoman> my question
[03:19] <disc> panoman, chmod is the command you use to change permissions, or you can right click the file in the file browser and select preferences and there's a permissions tab
[03:19] <disc> panoman, er, properties
[03:19] <FrostRat> nrdb: I keep my /home on a separate partition, so when I want to upgrade, I just wipe / and install whatever I want there... and point to my /home during installation.  Works like a charm every time.
[03:20] <disc> FrostRat, that's a good idea :-P
[03:20] <panoman> checkin it out
[03:20] <disc> so NO ONE knows the answer to my question? The wiki says it's in the repos but the command says it isn't....
[03:21] <FrostRat> disc: yeah, keep it in mind the next time you decide to play around with partitions.  I've even jumped between Debian Etch, two versions of Ubuntu with the same /home partition.
[03:21] <nrdb> FrostRat: could I resize my main partition copy over the /home then just install 7.10 ?
[03:21] <jellulabo> Hi everyone. How do I get compiz to stop making windows 'stick' to the edges of the screen?
[03:22] <sCOTTo> hey guys - i am installing xubuntu as i have an OLD computer here with 128 MB memory - using the live cdrom - what params do i need to use to install Xubuntu instead of normal ubuntu?
[03:22] <Flannel> nrdb: yes, although the copying is a different command
[03:22] <Flannel> sCOTTo: You need to have the Xubuntu liveCD
[03:22] <th0r> sCOTTo and that live cd really needs 192MB min if I recall correctly
[03:22] <Flannel> nrdb: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[03:23] <FrostRat> nrdb: I'm too tired to get my head around what you're talking about... if you've got /home backed up and are absolutely sure you aren't going to lose anything, you could always wipe your ubuntu partition (assuming you've got / and /home on one drive)
[03:23] <Kevin`> use the alternate install cd on low ram
[03:23] <th0r> sCOTTo you would probably be better off installing from the Alternate CD and installing xfce from there as wm
[03:23] <sCOTTo> i DID download the iso for the Xubuntu
[03:23] <Flannel> sCOTTo: then you're installing Xubuntu currently
[03:23] <FrostRat> nrdb: and then make two partitions... I leave 15GB for / (overkill) and the rest for /home
[03:23] <Flannel> sCOTTo: or rather, the installer on there will install Xubuntu
[03:23] <sCOTTo> it says Ubuntu 7.10
[03:23] <sCOTTo> is that right?
[03:24] <Flannel> sCOTTo: Where does it say that?
[03:24] <th0r> sCOTTo yes...that is right
[03:24] <sCOTTo> F1 Help index.
[03:24] <xtas> mm, installing world of warcraft on 7.10. wish me luck :)
[03:24] <nrdb> FrostRat: I think I will do that, I will save hours of downloads.
[03:24] <FrostRat> nrdb: then when you're all installed, just copy your /home into the freshly installed /home
[03:24] <mneptok> xtas: good luck finding a girlfriend. :)
[03:24] <sCOTTo> do i use the live-expert option?
[03:24] <th0r> sCOTTo it is installing Ubuntu 7.10 with xfce as a window manager (hence the'x'ubuntu
[03:24] <FrostRat> nrdb: you'll just need to reinstall any programs from repos/other places
[03:24] <xtas> mneptok:  :D
[03:24] <xtas> haha, almost dropped from chair
[03:24] <PurpZeY> nrdb: Yeah, it won't save stuff you compiled obviously
[03:24] <sCOTTo> th0r, thanks for the explination :)
[03:25] <disc> FrostRat, I'm trying to install a program from repos that the wiki says is there but apt-get says it isn't.......
[03:25] <sCOTTo> th0r, so i use the live-expert setting?
[03:25] <PurpZeY> disc: What package?
[03:25] <FrostRat> nrdb: you might have missing icons or stuff like that until you get everything installed again (if you've got custom taskbars like gdesklets or whatever)
[03:25] <nrdb> PurpZeY: I know, this is fairly basic install, just have to be careful with the printer drivers.
[03:25] <disc> PurpZeY, 3ddesktop
[03:25] <FrostRat> disc: which program?  sorry, just got here and didn't see your post
[03:25] <th0r> sCOTTo if you do...you need to tell it how to partition the disk. If it boots into the desktop just click on the Install icon...but I don't know if it will with only 128M ram
[03:25] <disc> FrostRat, 3ddesktop
[03:25] <th0r> sCOTTo I installed on 192M and it was really marginal
[03:26] <FrostRat> did you try searching for it by running Synaptic?
[03:26] <disc> yep
[03:26] <happygnuyear> i dont see 3ddesktop in the repos
[03:26] <sCOTTo> th0r, thats fine i know enough to install it through expert
[03:26] <disc> neither do I......but the wiki says it's there....
[03:26] <PurpZeY> disc: Your sure you are not looking for compiz or something of that nature?
[03:26] <th0r> sCOTTo then go for it...should be ok
[03:26] <FrostRat> disc: I remember seeing it... maybe it's not in gutsy... is that what you're running?
[03:26] <sCOTTo> th0r, I already have the other small dist but it is too minimal - i cant get wireless networking to work in it :(
[03:26] <disc> PurpZeY, very sure..... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/3ddesktopHowto
[03:27] <sCOTTo> fluxubuntu
[03:27] <disc> FrostRat, yep, Gusty
[03:27] <ljsmithx> I'm back and thought I should give it another shot... How do I install avant?
[03:27] <th0r> sCOTTo I use xubuntu for my server, and use xfce as wm in suse on my laptop as well...think you will be impressed. and it is much more efficient than gnome or kde
[03:27] <FrostRat> disc: I don't see it... just did a "sudo apt-cache search 3ddesktop" and it didn't come up... maybe it was only in feisty, then dropped from repos
[03:28] <PurpZeY> disc: You have to add the repos
[03:28] <panoman> the properties says I am not the owner
[03:28] <curiogeo> I have a peculiar issue where admin users can use the sound but unprivileged users cannot.
[03:28] <PurpZeY> FrostRat: I found it in the repos.
[03:28] <sCOTTo> th0r, the system i am installing it to is 600MHz with 128 MB memory - it is for my wife to edit joomla templates and some small website grafix as well as mail and stuff.... will it be ok do you think (being more knowing in these matters then i would)
[03:29] <curiogeo> anyone know how to change the permissions and make them stick
[03:29] <sCOTTo> 250GB hdd
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: You need universe repo
[03:29] <facted> Is there any way to change the mouse scroll speed (to increase it, in my case) using a MSFT wireless optical mouse 2.0? (I've searched and cannot find anything)
[03:29] <panoman> how do I change to root
[03:29] <disc> PurpZeY, got the universe repo
[03:29] <RedAlien_> Is there a french Ubuntu Channel?
[03:29] <sCOTTo> panoman 'sudo su <enter>
[03:29] <happygnuyear> panoman do chown -hR
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: Are you running gutsy?
[03:29] <disc> yep
[03:29] <PurpZeY> disc: Then why do you need this?
[03:29] <facted> I know in windows as well, you can change the scroll acceleration as well, which would be awesome if it's possible
[03:30] <curiogeo> I sent sudo chmod a+rwx /dev/dsp and it worked until I rebooted
[03:30] <happygnuyear> panoman, or sudo -i
[03:30] <disc> PurpZeY, what do you mean?
[03:30] <FrostRat> PurpZeY: I've got universe, but can't see it... you're running gutsy, too?
[03:30] <PurpZeY> FrostRat: I'm not, I'm in feisty
[03:30] <disc> PurpZeY, I can't get the desktop features to work....
[03:30] <th0r> sCOTTo once you get it installed I think it will run ok. The problem is that the livecd runs totally out of ram...I don't know if 128M will be enough. But worth a try. If not, you can install off the alternate cd...just make sure you install xfce as a window manager.
[03:30] <PurpZeY> disc: What does this do, desktop cube is built into gutsy
[03:30] <FrostRat> disc: looks like it was dropped after feisty
[03:30] <sCOTTo> th0r, whats the alternate cd?
[03:30] <th0r> sCOTTo my server is 433MHz with 192M ram and 40G hd, and xubuntu runs fine
[03:31] <disc> PurpZeY, I can't get the desktop effects in Gusty to work
[03:31] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, nice name
[03:31] <th0r> sCOTTo the alternate CD starts in a text mode installer instead of the graphic installer or desktop.
[03:31] <PurpZeY> disc: I think I'd try to fix that rather than this work around
[03:31] <happygnuyear> curiogeo, goto users and groups and add yourself to the audio group possibly
[03:31] <FrostRat> disc: I don't know what 3ddesktop does, but it's probably replaced by compiz
[03:31] <sCOTTo> can i make this cd go to text mode?
[03:31] <sCOTTo> th0r, can i make this cd go to text mode?
[03:31] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: Thanks :-)
[03:31] <disc> FrostRat, you're running Gusty?
[03:31] <th0r> sCOTTo don't think so...you need to download the alternate cd if I'm not mistaken
[03:31] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, where ever did you get such a name ;)
[03:32] <disc> fros
[03:32] <disc> er...
[03:32] <sCOTTo> ok cool
[03:32] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: That's a long story. Best go to my website and read all about it :-)
[03:32] <PurpZeY> disc: Why can't you use compiz?
[03:32] <curiogeo> happygnuyear I will try it
[03:32] <FrostRat> disc: yep, gutsy... but I don't bother with any 3d stuff... I even use the generic nvidia driver. :D
[03:32] <jagerman> Hi, can anyone tell me whether dealing with ATI onboard graphics (a 690G chipset) is a pain in the ass, i.e. should I try to buy nvidia or intel instead if possible?
[03:33] <disc> PurpZeY, I try to enable the desktop effects, the screen blacks out, comes back, black out, comes back, and then a pop-up saying that I can't enable the desktop effects
[03:33] <zcat[1]> 3ddesktop is a really cheezy and inefficient version of the compiz cube...
[03:33] <disc> but I'm running an older machine
[03:33] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I believe nvidia is supposed to be the same as ATI....but, I think it will still be easier to use nvidia
[03:33] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, and the site address is: ??
[03:33] <PurpZeY> disc: Maybe this is a message that your machine can't run 3d cube
[03:33] <jagerman> PurpZeY: I mainly care about how "it just works" it is, as it isn't my computer.
[03:34] <disc> I've still got a PIII 733Mhz and 364mb ram, with a Legacy nVidia card.....
[03:34] <zcat[1]> disc: what video card?
[03:34] <PurpZeY> jagerman: IMO nvidia is your better choice then....Best bet is to check the supported hardware list, get a card on the list, guaranteed to work
[03:34] <disc> nVidia Vanta NV6
[03:34] <zcat[1]> disc: legacy like MX440 or legacy like tnt2 ?
[03:34] <sCOTTo> th0r,  ok install started il be bacl after when its done :)
[03:35] <disc> zcat[1], legacy like Vanta NV6
[03:35] <sCOTTo> Balaams_Miracle, nice meeting you - mine is www.faithcomputing.com.au
[03:35] <zcat[1]> disc: yeah, that's toooooo legacy.
[03:35]  * sCOTTo waves to the crowd of smarter people...
[03:35] <sCOTTo> goners
[03:35] <jagerman> PurpZeY: Where is that list?
[03:35] <PurpZeY> !hardware | jagerman
[03:35] <ubotu> jagerman: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:35] <Balaams_Miracle> sCOTTo: See your PM
[03:35] <jagerman> Thanks
[03:35] <mneptok> jagerman: is this an add-in, or a mobo decision?
[03:36] <zcat[1]> disc: anything before about a geforce2 (mx440 chipset) won't do compiz...
[03:36] <FrostRat> disc: it's none of my business, but if you ask around, somebody's got to have a newer 3d card hanging around that they aren't using... I'm sure you can get your hands on a decent one (for free, probably!)
[03:36] <disc> FrostRat, would my motherboard support a video card upgrade?
[03:36] <pawan> hi
[03:37] <crazy181> hey guys any idea why my install is locking up, i am thinking it may be related to my ati 7500m video card
[03:37] <mneptok> disc: you probably have an AGP slot, so yes.
[03:37] <RedAlien_> I just installed aterm and it doesn't appear in my application menu, how can I get it there?
[03:37] <jagerman> mneptok: A motherboard decision.
[03:37] <mneptok> jagerman: Intel
[03:37] <PurpZeY> crazy181: Describe "locking up"
[03:37] <disc> Only thing I've ever upgraded is my sound card....and I took out my winmodem
[03:37] <crazy181> hard locking it is just freezing up
[03:37] <mneptok> jagerman: Intel graphics, by far, are your best bet in current incarnations of the Linux kernel.
[03:37] <disc> but I've since upgraded to DSL, so no need for a modem anymore
[03:38] <PurpZeY> crazy181: At what point in the setup?
[03:38] <jagerman> mneptok: I can't find any Intel boards with DVI, though.
[03:38] <fantum13> Hello, I'm using the Alternate Install Disc for amd64, and the partitioner is hanging on "starting up the paritioner" at 50%. Is this a known bug, or am I using a "bad" cd?
[03:38] <mneptok> jagerman: you in the US?
[03:38] <jagerman> No, Canada.
[03:38] <crazy181> it installed fine it is locking on the desktop
[03:38] <FrostRat> disc: if you have an AGP slot, you're in luck... if not, you should be able to find a 128MB PCI card that'll give you a boost
[03:38] <zcat[1]> mneptok: actually I've found that intel video isn't that great..
[03:38] <mneptok> jagerman: oh, nice, hiya from Montreal.
[03:38] <joerlend> is it possible to flip the screen 90 degrees?
[03:38] <mneptok> zcat[1]: it is from my chair. ;)
[03:38] <PurpZeY> crazy181: Sounds like a video card issue, so, you've got it installed but you can't access desktop?
[03:39] <zcat[1]> what chipset?
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, Difference between AGP slot and PCI slot?
[03:39] <mneptok> jagerman: you loking at a Core2Duo board?
[03:39] <jagerman> mneptok: Yes
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, Keep in mind my motherboard is an HP from 200
[03:39] <mneptok> jagerman: sec.
[03:39] <disc> FrostRat, er, 2000
[03:39] <FrostRat> disc: I'm sure you can find a picture somewhere... it's really hard to describe... :D
[03:39] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> This is probably one of the most commonly asked questions, but I am having trouble finding something that works:  I just got a new monitor.  Was a CRT at 1024x768.  I now have a Viewsonic LCD at 1680x1050.  I cannot seem to make Xorg use 1680x1050, and I cannot seem to make it show up in my screen resolution menu.  Any suggestions?
[03:39] <joerlend> FrostRat: you can get really cool new vgs
[03:39] <jagerman> mneptok: One that supports 1333 bus
[03:39] <foug> is there a way to mass delete id3 tags with ubuntu?
[03:39] <joerlend> FrostRat: for agp.
[03:39] <PurpZeY> !fixres | Em3raldMcSquizzy
[03:39] <ubotu> Em3raldMcSquizzy: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:40] <disc> FrostRat, been so long since I've been a real computer nerd....still know more than you're average idiot though :-)
[03:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: have you heard of a program called exfalso?
[03:40] <crazy181> everything works fine but after a short period usualy while draging or minimising windows the system freezes, i have tried turning the visual effects to minimal and it still locks
[03:40] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: negative
[03:40] <zcat[1]> I'd love to be running purely open-source as much as possible, but various onboard i915 chipsets just haven't been very good running compiz..
[03:40] <FrostRat> disc: I'm still running an AMD 1200, not sure which year it's from... but it's old.  I'm running with openbox and stuff, so I don't need to upgrade yet. :D
[03:40] <mrdigital> my grub menu is broken can someone assist me in rebuilng it
[03:40] <shadowxp> oh, heres a question, i can't seem to make my resolution go above 800x600, and i am using a nvidia 7950 GT OC w/ 512 mb of ram, i've tried making it use the NVidia drivers but X doesn't seem to want to
[03:40] <shadowxp> my Monitor's max res is 1440x900
[03:40] <disc> Well, alright, thanks everyone, I appreciate the help and advice
[03:40] <disc> For know, farewell and goodnight
[03:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: thahx ... I think I have tried that one, but I will look again.  foug it may not be precisely what you want, but you might like it.  It's an easy tag editor that is intelligently written.  Sudo aptitude install exfalso
[03:40] <FrostRat> Em3raldMcSquizzy: great program for editing tags... if you like it, Quod Libet is a great player that goes along with it
[03:41] <PurpZeY> crazy181: How much tweaking have you done, it sounds like you are possibly using the wrong driver and since this is a fresh install using dpkg reconfigure might help.
[03:41] <FrostRat> disc: have a good one
[03:41] <zcat[1]> If I could go buy an intel-based AGP card that I knew worked, I would seriously consider it.
[03:41] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: allready downloading it (: i need to delete tags off about 1,000 songs
[03:41] <disc> FrostRat, You too, hope you have a happy new year ;-)
[03:41] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: will it let me delete them all at the smae time?
[03:41] <jagerman> mneptok: So far, the best choice looks like a nvidia 1750/630i board, but I'd be happier indeed with an Intel chipset.
[03:41] <crazy181> ok ill give it a go thanyou
[03:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: you can multiselect, then just delete them :D
[03:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: if you doubleclick on a directory in the program, it automatically selects all mp3s in that folder.
[03:42] <LADoctor> Hi, I would like to create a system with a linux and a virtual machine on it,  which linux would be recomended
[03:42] <FrostRat> foug: it's really intuitive... it's saved me lots of time
[03:42] <exile> omg i think i messed up bad
[03:42] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> FrostRat: thanx for the advice, I will try out that player.
[03:42] <PurpZeY> LADoctor: Ubuntu?
[03:42] <LADoctor> thanks
[03:42] <slashzul> hey people
[03:42] <mneptok> jagerman: looks like TigerDirect has no Intel DVI boards :(
[03:43] <slashzul> what app do you use for podcasts clients?
[03:43] <mneptok> jagerman: and, sadly, you can only get Intel grfx onboard
[03:43] <FrostRat> Em3raldMcSquizzy: it's got tons of plugins, does pretty much everything... not quite as nice looking as amarok, but seems to be lighter on resources
[03:43] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I think you'll be fine if you just do your research first
[03:43] <iblicf> hi , if i can do 'sudo cp -af /  /mnt/ub' to move my system to another patition , yeah , i know need to change /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab
[03:43] <happygnuyear> goto madtux.com - they have nvidia ones with dvi
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: Okay, that's the help page I already tried.  The auto script gives me no help (screen comes back "out of range").  I tried the second method (horiz rate, etc), and no errors, but no change in resolution.
[03:44] <jagerman> mneptok: I found *one* on NCIX, for an older chipset.  They also sell an adaptor that hooks into the PCIex slot and gives you DVI output, but it costs almost $30, and a whole discrete cheapo nvidia card is barely any more.
[03:44] <peepsalot> i'm no longer able to load firefox.  I click the icon and it does nothing
[03:44] <foug> FrostRat: Em3raldMcSquizzy: it seems to not pick up on the id3 tags, the remove button is greyed out
[03:44] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: You can try to edit xorg manually...just make sure to back it up
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: It looks like I got the router problem solved...   Replaced the D-Link with something that cost more than $15 that the D-Link did.
[03:44] <foug> FrostRat: Em3raldMcSquizzy nevermind i'm slow
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: hmm ... do you have mp3s selected?  And if so, you have to click on specific tags
[03:44] <tuntun> !flashbroken
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: heheh okay
[03:45] <tuntun> !flash
[03:45] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:45] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:45] <jagerman> PurpZeY: I'm quite happy with nvidia myself, but I'm a debian user with lots of linux experience.  This computer is for someone else.
[03:45] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: seems i have to highlight the tags themselves, can't mass delete tags
[03:45] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: yeah, that's what I did with the horiz rates and stuff (I've done this before, a long time ago).
[03:45] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: How many tags on your files?
[03:45] <exile> i acciedently moved the little home folder link that was on my gnome desktop onto a usb drive, and it wont let me move it back. now it's doing wierd things when i try to copy other files to the drive.
[03:45] <peepsalot> i think my hard drive is going bad, or got corrupted during a hard power off
[03:45] <jtholmes> peepsalot,  ps -eaf |grep firefox    see if it is running
[03:45] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: just id3, artist, album, comment etc
[03:45] <PurpZeY> jagerman: I'm saying, I've configured to Nvidia's for people...if you make sure ubuntu supports the card, you won't run into any issue, at least, I don't thinks o
[03:46] <peepsalot> jtholmes, not running
[03:46] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: yeah, so no mass-delete, but if you click on each tag and then delete (don't forget to hit save!!) then you should be good to go
[03:46] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: wait, i figured it out, lol
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: editing tags?
[03:46] <foug> Em3raldMcSquizzy: you can mass delete ;P like i said, I am slow, haha
[03:46] <foug> mneptok: yes, mass deleting id3 tags with exfalso
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: sudo apt-get install easytag
[03:46] <mneptok> foug: EasyTag is the tool you want,
[03:46] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> foug: well there you go!  You are already better at using the app than me :P
[03:46] <jtholmes> peepsalot,  execute  /usr/bin/firefox  see if it comes up
[03:47] <foug> mneptok: i will download and try that as well, thanks all of you!
[03:47] <Vlper2002> hey has anyone dual booted here from a Dell PC originally running windows? I have never worked with partitions before and it looks like I have three that Dell created
[03:47] <Vlper2002> how could I dual boot from this?
[03:47] <peepsalot> my computer gets locked up sometimes and I have to cut the power, then when I restart it has to run fsck, and it says there are UNexpected Inconsistencies or something, and that I have to run fsck manually, and all this crap
[03:47] <mikubuntu> heeellllllpppp.  my last session ended up so BAD.  this thing has been happening with my cursor, where it starts wandering slowly northeast accross the screen, and as the session lengthens it goes ever faster and faster untill i can't even stop it long enough to fix on a link... is this some kind of malware or maliscious attack, or a known issue?
[03:47] <mneptok> foug: i have an *insanely* large mp3 collection, and won't use anything but EasyTag.
[03:47] <foug> mneptok: lol, how large might i ask?
[03:47] <jtholmes> peepsalot, do you know how to boot single user and run fsck
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: thanx for the help.  I will continue mucking about and see what I can do.
[03:48] <mneptok> foug: 41,000 mp3s
[03:48] <foug> mneptok: DANG, what kind of music?
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mneptok: that's about the same as my collection ;)
[03:48] <rd> yo yo need some quick assistance::: is there any command that tells you what flavor of linux a server is running?
[03:48] <jagerman> Vlper2002: I remember something like that from long ago on my Dell notebook: ISTR one is the special Dell tools for checking your comp, and one is the Windows recovery partition they give you instead of giving you a Windows CD.
[03:48] <peepsalot> jtholmes, no
[03:48] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Editing it manually is the best I can think of....maybe just me
[03:48] <mneptok> foug: all kinds. like, ALL kinds.
[03:48] <jtholmes> peepsalot, are u nu to linux
[03:48] <mneptok> rd: lsb_release -a
[03:48] <foug> mneptok: cool
[03:48] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: yeah, me too.  I'll see if maybe I forgot something simple.  tis usually the way it is :D
[03:48] <peepsalot> jtholmes, not really
[03:48] <PurpZeY> rd: Yo yo lsb_release -a
[03:49] <mikubuntu> mneptok: you have $41k tied up in music? :)
[03:49] <mneptok> PurpZeY: werd. smoov lsb_release tip.
[03:49] <jaime> hello everyone
[03:49] <Vlper2002> jagerman: I figured one was windows since they didn't give me a CD, could I delete two of them to make my linux installation easier? (I have never done this by the way)
[03:49] <FrostRat> mneptok: not a bad collection!!! :D
[03:49] <jaime> i have a quetion
[03:49] <peepsalot> jtholmes, in my grub there is a "recovery mode" is that single user?
[03:49] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mikubuntu: ... yes ... that's right ... umm ... yeah, $41000 ... :P
[03:49] <jaime> how do i install adept from ad/remove application?
[03:49] <jtholmes> peepsalot, ok then boot into recovery mode  and  e2fsck /dev/hd?  or /dev/sd?  which ever type of hard drive shows in  df -k
[03:49] <PurpZeY> mneptok: Laying on my side...hard to beat you when you so fast
[03:50] <crazy181> What driver should i be using for a Radeon Mobility 7500?
[03:50] <peepsalot> jtholmes, also, i have Logical volumes, don't know if that makes a big diff
[03:50] <jagerman> Vlper2002: You *could*, I suppose, if you don't care about ever reinstalling Windows
[03:50] <crdlb> crazy181: 'ati'
[03:50] <umer> hey guys
[03:50] <jtholmes> peepsalot, as root user
[03:50] <crdlb> crazy181: also known as 'radeon'
[03:50] <jaime> can someone help me on installing adept manager in gnome?
[03:50] <jagerman> Vlper2002: Or you could just take the plunge and delete the Windows partition ;)
[03:50] <Vlper2002> jagerman: the only reason I say that is because all the tutorials I read seem to say that I should only start with one partition
[03:50] <jtholmes> peepsalot, havent worked with logicals may be different scenario
[03:50] <mikubuntu> heeellllllpppp.  my last session ended up so BAD.  this thing has been happening with my cursor, where it starts wandering slowly northeast accross the screen, and as the session lengthens it goes ever faster and faster untill i can't even stop it long enough to fix on a link... is this some kind of malware or maliscious attack, or a known issue?
[03:51] <Vlper2002> jagerman: ha, yeah I am not yet that confident, but maybe it will come to that hehe
[03:51] <crazy181> lol yeah just wanted to make sure cos the default install was using a different ati driver
[03:51] <rd> yo yo lsb_release didnt' work
[03:51] <rd> so i guess its not a linux flavor
[03:51] <rd> maybe freebsd?
[03:51] <rd> how can I tell?
[03:51] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: That is rather unique....Maybe your mouse is broken?
[03:51] <jtholmes> peepsalot, ask here how to  fsck  logical volumes in single user mode
[03:51] <mikubuntu> this is driving me crazy. in a few mins i won't be able to navigate anything
[03:51] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: hey, is there a way to force xorg to default to a specific *higher* resolution?
[03:51] <crdlb> crazy181: there's only one driver (excluding vesa and such) that supports your card
[03:51] <jtholmes> peepsalot, i dont know how to do that
[03:52] <umer> i need some help with vnc, i'm trying to access my downstairs desktop from my laptop, i can access it via vnc while im logged into my account on the desktop, but when the desktop is at the gdm screen, i cant, on the desktop i enabled remote login by going to system>admin>login window>remote
[03:52] <peepsalot> i wish my job would just give me a new laptop, this one is a POS
[03:52] <jagerman> rd: I don't have lsb_release on my debian system.  All that means is that it isn't a lsb-compliant system.
[03:52] <umer> but i dont know what to do next
[03:52] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I don't know about default, but I know that you can add rez and then go into system and change to them
[03:52] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> mikubuntu: strange.  I would think it's probably just a setting you need to change.
[03:52] <happygnuyear> mikubuntu, sounds like one of your keys is stuck :P
[03:52] <jagerman> Linux *Standard* Base is just wishful thinking
[03:52] <hniceman> nokia help
[03:52] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: no, cause its a laptop, and it happens with touchpad or with usb mouse hooked up.
[03:52] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: so is it the best way to just add a resolution to xorg.conf, restart xorg, then try to select the res?  Or is there a better way?
[03:52] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: have you tried installing qsynaptics?
[03:52] <jagerman> rd: What does uname -a give you?
[03:52] <umer> when i try connecting like normal with terminal service client, i cant using the vnc protocol, and the xdmcp protocol is greyed out
[03:52] <peepsalot> i think I'll just say the hard drive is dying and try to convince them to finally get me a new compy
[03:53] <umer> id appreciate any help i can get
[03:53] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I don't know if that's the best, that's just what I'd do...but like I said, make sure to back up xorg
[03:53] <jaime> guys when i select adept manager in add/remove applications it says the list of applications is not avaibabe, click on reload to load it, to reload the list you need a working internet connection, and well there is no reload button but refresh and that refresh still don't let me select it, i'll do it over and over
[03:53] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: whats qsynaptics
[03:53] <jaime> applly changes doesn't bold up
[03:53] <mneptok> rd: uname -a
[03:53] <hniceman> what channel do i get for nokia apps
[03:53] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: heheh yeah I know.  But it never hurts to beat that one to death.  *always back up your xorg.conf*  <--- for everyone elses benefit ;)
[03:53] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: Well, it depends if you have a synaptics or ALPS touchpad, but if it's synaptics it can control the touchpad
[03:53] <jagerman> rd: Also try ls /etc/*{version,release}*
[03:53] <mneptok> hniceman: try #maemo
[03:54] <crazy181> this is what device manager is reporting my card as, Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:54] <hniceman> cheers
[03:54] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: The few of us idiots who made that mistake once...;)
[03:54] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: how do i tell?
[03:54] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: I was one of those ... like 3 years ago ;)
[03:54] <jaime> can somebody help me please
[03:54] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: What laptop?
[03:54] <PurpZeY> !ask | jaime
[03:54] <ubotu> jaime: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:54] <peepsalot> is fsck the only way to check if a HDD is bad?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Here is one I like to give out..    cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[03:55] <jaime> i just did
[03:55] <xtas> I want to copu from /media/hdb all contents to /home/xtas/Desktop/WOW but it needs to overwrite some files but I get acces denied when I do it by mouse from window manager. what to do?
[03:55] <jaime> people annoying me
[03:55] <mikubuntu> purpzey, dell d600
[03:55] <jaime> scroll up
[03:55] <rd> but doens't say what linux its using
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > xtas
[03:55] <mikubuntu> PurpZeY: dell d600
[03:55] <jaime>  guys when i select adept manager in add/remove applications it says the list of applications is not avaibabe, click on reload to load it, to reload the list you need a working internet connection, and well there is no reload button but refresh and that refresh still don't let me select it, i'll do it over and over
[03:55] <Vlper2002> alright, easy question:: I just downloaded ubuntu. It is in ISO format. What is the correct way to burn that sucker to a CD so I can just pop it into a different computer and install??
[03:56] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: that's fantastic advice!  Mind you, if someone has to boot to console, finding the ~/Desktop might not be as simple for brand new users.
[03:56] <Kevin`> Vlper2002 k3b should handle it correctly, or cdrecord file.iso
[03:56] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: It appears that is an ALPS touchpad, e.g. qsynaptics won't do anything
[03:56] <xtas> Jack_Sparrow: would you please give me the whole line? sudo cp /media/hdb/*.* /home/xtas/desktop/WOW/ or what
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: If in windows you can try isorecorder freeware...
[03:56] <Vlper2002> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[03:56] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: There are instructions right on the download page
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> xtas: I have them copy it to a usb if they have it...  a cd if not
[03:56] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: kay I am gonna restart xorg. wish me luck :D
[03:57] <n6hgg> vlper2002, what burning software do you have?
[03:57] <daryl_> hello
[03:57] <xtas> uhm
[03:57] <FrostRat> later everybody, take it easy
[03:57] <Vlper2002> n6hgg: hehe good question, none yet
[03:57] <forsaken> is there a way to get the default xubuntu inside of the normal ubuntu install? (just instaling xfce4?)
[03:57] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: Just download the software on that page
[03:57] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: thanks
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> xtas: I have cmd lines for all the basic system files...  If you liked that, you will love this one..  sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[03:57] <n6hgg> Okay, alot of burning software will burn an iso to cd, and afterward you have a working disk.
[03:57] <PurpZeY> forsaken: Just install xubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <jagerman> mneptok: It's an "ADD2" card you have to add to get DVI.  How lame. :(
[03:57] <rhinovirus> #
[03:58] <mikubuntu> viper2002, did you download live cd, or alt install?
[03:58] <xtas> Theres no point telling me that when I DONT understand it at all :)
[03:58] <xtas> i'll go for google then
[03:58] <Kevin`> Jack_Sparrow sfdisk -d more useful
[03:58] <mikubuntu> viper, if you are definitely going to install, the alt install is a better option
[03:58] <mneptok> jagerman: that's pathetic.
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Kevin`: there are lots of good ones..
[03:59] <RedAlien_> How can I list ALL running process on my linux box?
[03:59] <mneptok> jagerman: let's go burn Intel down.
[03:59] <PurpZeY> mikubuntu: Why?
[03:59] <mneptok> RedAlien_: ps aux
[03:59] <mikubuntu> have you already run ubuntu live?
[03:59] <PurpZeY> RedAlien_: ps aux
[03:59] <PurpZeY> mneptok: AGAIN! grr
[03:59] <Kevin`> the livecd is rather slow compared to a hard disk install
[04:00] <jagerman> TOO SLOW ;)
[04:00] <jagerman> Uh oh, my day changed.
[04:00] <PurpZeY> The liveCD is good for first install....just my thought....Only takes 30 minutes
[04:00] <RedAlien_> mneptok, PurpZeY is there any command to give me more process because something is wrong with ps aux. Top tells me that 8M are free and ps aux tells me that I use something like 5% of my RAM!!
[04:01] <jagerman> RedAlien_:
[04:01] <camokat> hello
[04:01] <mneptok> RedAlien_: if you want tyo know about memory usage, use "free -m"
[04:01] <jagerman> free
[04:01] <jagerman> oops
[04:01] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: do you know where on the ubuntu page an ISO burner is located?
[04:01] <mneptok> RedAlien_: what does that tell you?
[04:01] <mneptok> Vlper2002: it's built in
[04:01] <jagerman> RedAlien_: "free" is not exactly what you think it is.
[04:01] <cali_love22> hey
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: Are you doing this from windows or linux?
[04:01] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: It's on the page after you download hte ISO...if you closed that, just go back and click "cancel" on the download
[04:01] <mneptok> Vlper2002: right-click the .iso and look at the context menu
[04:01] <Vlper2002> mneptok: windows xp
[04:02] <Vlper2002> err
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:02] <Vlper2002> Jack_Sparrow: windows
[04:02] <mneptok> Vlper2002: http://cdburnerxp.se
[04:02] <jagerman> RedAlien_: Linux uses free memory to cache the disk, which it throws away as soon as a process needs more memory
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Vlper2002: Make sure you get the right isorecorder for your service pack version.
[04:02] <RedAlien_> jagerman, is there a way to clean up ram?
[04:02] <PurpZeY> Vlper2002: I'll repeat myself at that risk, but like I said, if you just go back to the ISO download page, it will give you freeware to burn it and instructions
[04:02] <camokat> I have a problem where Ubuntu is stuck loading at "failed to set xfermode", so I found this: http://fak3r.com/2007/06/22/failed-to-set-xfermode-solved/ It seems to work, but every time I reboot the irqpoll parameter is removed. How can I persist it?
[04:03] <RedAlien_> I mean, just use what is needed... No disk caching?
[04:03] <mneptok> RedAlien_: stop worrying about it.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> PurpZeY: What freeware are they linking now?
[04:03] <jagerman> RedAlien_: You wouldn't want to.  But look at the "-/+ buffers/cache" numbers in free's output
[04:03] <Vlper2002> PurpZey: gotcha, I found it thanks
[04:03] <camokat> I also tried to add irqpoll to /boot/grub/menu.list but when I update grub line gets removed?
[04:03] <mneptok> RedAlien_: Linux is *far* better at memory management than you are. no offense.
[04:03] <Oli``> lol
[04:03] <PurpZeY> Jack_Sparrow: Not sure, haven't done it in a while...but when I did it was rather easy
[04:03] <jagerman> RedAlien_: *Those* used/free numbers are closer to what you are looking for
[04:03] <camokat> can someone help please?
[04:04] <RedAlien_> jagerman, yes =)
[04:04] <demon_spork> is there a problem with the gutsy flash plugin?
[04:04] <RedAlien_> Thank you jagerman =P
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> demon_spork: Yes
[04:04] <Oli``> demon_spork: several
[04:04] <xobius> camokat, what's your problem?
[04:04] <PurpZeY> demon_spork: Yes
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[04:04] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:05] <mneptok> RedAlien_: welcome to Linux. we don't ask you to babysit your computer with your teeth clenched. sit back and drive, son. :)
[04:05]  * jagerman hates flash
[04:05] <camokat> xobius, I have a problem where Ubuntu is stuck loading at "failed to set xfermode", so I found this: http://fak3r.com/2007/06/22/failed-to-set-xfermode-solved/ It seems to work, but every time I reboot the irqpoll parameter is removed. How can I persist it?
[04:05] <RedAlien_> =D
[04:05] <demon_spork> yes I need to fix it immediately, it is messing wid my youtube watching
[04:05] <demon_spork> lel
[04:05] <PurpZeY> demon_spork: There are fixes. . .Read above
[04:05] <Oli``> camokat: patience is a virtue. somebody will help you when they can
[04:06] <demon_spork> I know
[04:06] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: strangely, xorg accepts 1440x900, but will not take 1680x1050 (the native res).  Any thoughts?
[04:06] <camokat> Oli``, ok, waiting...
[04:06] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: As in, it won't show up as a choice?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> demon_spork: Make a backup just in case the true released fix conflicts with the temo fix
[04:06] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: in fact, 1680x1050 won't even show up in the menu either.  I don't understand why.  PurpZeYcorrect.
[04:06] <demon_spork> join
[04:06] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: My math is rather fuzzy, is that the correct aspect ratio?
[04:07] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> yup
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Sounds like the onitor rates were never entered correctly
[04:07] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Sounds like Jack_Sparrow is on to something
[04:07] <xobius> camokat,  the update-grup change the parameter?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Common problem
[04:07] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: if I enter the rates, it just gives me an over-range.  but they are from the specs from the website.
[04:07] <iano> if i run gnome with compiz, everything looks proper, but is very slow and will crash. if i remove compiz, i lose the borders on all the windows. how do i fix this?
[04:07] <camokat> xobius, no, removes it
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> e3m
[04:08] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> iano: I think you need to start metacity
[04:08] <PurpZeY> iano: Change your windows manager from compiz to metacity
[04:08] <camokat> should I put defoptions=quite splash irqpoll as the last line in menu.list?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: So you know where the problem is...  it definately has to do with those rates and how you are entering them
[04:08] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Hi, is there a way i can get kubuntu without reinstalling ubuntu?  I have festy right now but wanted to try kubuntu.
[04:08] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> PurpZeY: is the command something like metacity -replace for that?
[04:08] <iano> i have metacity installed, how do i change my window manager? at login, instead of choosing GNOME?
[04:08] <PurpZeY> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Methinks so, yes.
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> iano: Ask in #compiz
[04:08] <FDI> PurpZeY: i'm impressed
[04:09] <xobius> camokat, could you pastebin your menu.lst?
[04:09] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: hmm.  Okay, I will see what I can find.  Perhaps I have the wrong info.
[04:09] <PurpZeY> iano: You'll still be using GNOME
[04:09] <happygnuyear> Psyco_Chipmunk, install kubuntu-desktop
[04:09] <PurpZeY> FDI: I wouldn't be, I'm really not that good
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> iano: Gnome is a desktop NOT a window manager
[04:09] <Senrac> Has anyone got Alltel PC5750 EVDO to work in ubuntu?
[04:09] <Psyco_Chipmunk> happygnuyear,  whats the terminal command?
[04:09] <PurpZeY> iano: I agree though #compiz is really a better place for that issue
[04:10] <PurpZeY> !anyone | Senrac
[04:10] <ubotu> Senrac: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:10] <happygnuyear> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[04:10] <linux_> does anyone know about  encrypted high anonymous proxy server
[04:10] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:10] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: this is from the website:  Frequency	Fh: 24~82kHz, Fv: 50~75Hz ... so I would have 	HorizSync          24-82 and VertRefresh        50-75 right?
[04:10] <PurpZeY> They are highly anonymous and encrypted
[04:10] <Oli``> linux_: tor?
[04:10] <camokat> xobius, http://pastebin.com/m309a6fbd
[04:10] <exile> how do i turn off all the compiz stuff?
[04:10] <Senrac> I would like to start using ubuntu as my main OS
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: yep  post your xorg to the pastebin for someone to look it over
[04:11] <PurpZeY> exile: System --> ....Also ask in #compiz for all related issues
[04:11] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: okay :D
[04:11] <Oli``> exile: right click the desktop, click change background, click the visual effects and select none
[04:11] <avalys> does HTTP BASIC authentication truncate passwords to 8 characters?
[04:11] <avalys> I have restricted access to a site using AuthType Basic, AuthUserFile, and Require valid-user
[04:11] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> !pastebin | Em3raldMcSquizzy
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_: THis is not the channel for that topic
[04:11] <avalys> however, I am allowed into that portion of the site if I type only the first 8 characters of my 9-character password.  typing the whole thing works as well.  anyone know what the problem is?
[04:11] <linux_> does that support  encryption
[04:12] <exile> thank you
[04:12] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> avalys: It is their site not checking past 8
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: this is my site.
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: running on Ubuntu server
[04:12] <Psyco_Chipmunk> does anyone know the terminal command to install kubuntu?
[04:12] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: I would like to know how to get my site to check the whole thing
[04:13] <sub[t]rnl> Psyco_Chipmunk➜ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <PurpZeY> Psyco_Chipmunk: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <avalys> Jack_Sparrow: I am using Apache's built-in authentication, it is not an application
[04:13] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50564/   .... I don't think you are going to find anything special, but I welcome any comments :D
[04:13] <jagerman> avalys: If your htpasswd uses crypt() passwords, then yes, they are only 8-character significant.
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> avalys: I dont know...
[04:13] <jagerman> avalys: But instead, you should use htpasswd -m, which uses md5-crypt passwords
[04:13] <Psyco_Chipmunk> thanks!
[04:13] <Senrac> Has anyone got Alltel PC5750 EVDO to work in ubuntu?
[04:13] <neo_> can ubuntu join my domain?
[04:13] <avalys> jagerman: argh, I just found that in the man page
[04:14] <Oli``> neo_: yup
[04:14] <avalys> jagerman: why the hell is the default the less secure option
[04:14] <avalys> jagerman: okay, thanks for the help, I was freaking out for a minute
[04:14] <jagerman> avalys: Historic reasons, I suppose.
[04:14] <Psyco_Chipmunk> whats better, gnome or kde?
[04:14] <xobius> camokat, in the line 89 add that papameter
[04:14] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Psyco_Chipmunk: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that one :D
[04:14] <Oli``> neo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[04:15] <mneptok> Psyco_Chipmunk: that's a question with no answer.
[04:15] <jagerman> Psyco_Chipmunk: Depends whether your prefer mashed potatoes or fries.
[04:15] <avalys> jagerman: seeing as it has been running for a year like this protecting important data -I was worried it was a sign of a larger problem
[04:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> i like both
[04:15] <bthornton> I've got a DVD that says "This DVD is copy protected and may be played only on licensed devices."  I suppose Linux isn't a "licensed device" because it won't play with any software that I'm aware of.  Is it possible to play this DVD with Linux?
[04:15] <Senrac> Is spyware a problem in linux?
[04:15] <jagerman> avalys: Well, crypt passwords are not terribly secure.
[04:15] <undertakingyou> I want have two users on this computer.  I would like each user to be able to see the others calendar, so we don't have to log into the other users account.  Is there a way to do this?
[04:15] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Psyco_Chipmunk: I prefer Gnome, but many prefer KDE.  there are many KDE native apps that I use in Gnome.
[04:15] <Oli``> Senrac: not really, no
[04:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Senrac,  no
[04:15] <camokat> xobius, ha, didn't see it there. thanks a lot, I'll try rebooting.
[04:15] <xobius> camokat, I think that update-grub don't delete it, but i don't sure
[04:16] <jagerman> Psyco_Chipmunk: Well there's your answer.
[04:16] <iano> firefox + adblock plus is pretty great
[04:16] <Psyco_Chipmunk> heh
[04:16] <iano> in linux :)
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: Agreed nothing remarkable
[04:16] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> iano: I like Opera ... right-click and disable any ads :D
[04:16] <joerlend> Senrac: as long as you stick with open source software, you can feel resonably certain it doesn
[04:16] <Oli``> Firefox 3b2 is even better... Just installed it and it almost made me cry - it's that good
[04:16] <camokat> xobius, I updated grub it didn't remove it. Trying to reboot now...
[04:17] <joerlend> Senrac: doesnt contain spyware. It would be impossible to hide it.
[04:17] <iano> 3b2 is stable?
[04:17] <happygnuyear> 3b2 is not stable,
[04:17] <Oli``> everybody I've talked to says yes, and I've not had any issues in the few hours I've been testing it
[04:17] <happygnuyear> it took my machine down when i used it
[04:17] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: I am thinking that maybe I have to find some different rates.  I'll see what I can dig up.  I have 1440x900 which is at lease widescreen.
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: As long as you stick to official repos, virii spyware and adware are not a problem...  running windows programs under wine.. not as safe...
[04:17] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Oli``: !worksforme
[04:18] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> hehe
[04:18] <avalys> jagerman: I know...freaking Apache
[04:18] <Senrac> I really want to change OS, I've had to reinstall windows xp 3 times from spyware.
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: That is what I run here
[04:18] <Oli``> iano: as usual you should back up your profile but I can't see *any* way you can nuke your system with it
[04:18] <RedAlien_> When I was on Zenwalk I had a menu for my aterm (or maybe xterm)... Anywone knows how to get it on ubuntu?
[04:18] <Senrac> Linux as a Windows emulator?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: I dual boot, and I have XP locked down .. No internet access for it..
[04:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: well, it's not quite as crisp as it would be if I had it in native ... so I will keep trying.  It's a 22 inch Widescreen with 2ms latency ... sweet :D  My wife bought it for me for Christmas.
[04:19] <happygnuyear> Senrac, no more screwing with anti virus spyware programs here.
[04:19] <NMaji1> Is there a method in ubuntu to set up and ad-hoc network (not only connect to one)? (Note: I don't have the faintest clue what I'm talking about, so if I say something that makes no sense, let me know)
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow>  Em3raldMcSquizzy  agreed.. sweet...
[04:19] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: no no, Wine Is Not a Windows Emulator ;)
[04:19] <joerlend> Senrac: I can second Jack_Sparrow's suggestion. I have the same setup, and it's very nice.
[04:20] <Oli``> NMajik: wireless or wired?
[04:20] <NMajik> Oli``: Wireless
[04:20] <Senrac> I have a toshbia satellite laptop and I thought Ubuntu would be a good opition.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: It is not as convienient as vmware etc.. but much safer and hardly a bother
[04:20] <drgeb> how do I resolve this error: "mv: cannot move to a subdirectory of itself ?
[04:20] <joerlend> Senrac: what do you use windows for?
[04:20] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> NMajik: I know what you mean, I just spew semi-sensical stuff and hope I don't come off as a total dork ;)
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> drgeb: As the doctor said.. if ift hurts when you do that.. dont do it..  YOu are doing something wrong
[04:21] <avalys> jagerman: actually, it is still doing it
[04:21] <exile> how can i tell if usb 2.0 is working?
[04:21] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> drgeb it means you are trying to copy a folder into a folder inside the first one.
[04:21] <avalys> jagerman: oh, never mind, I'm an idiot
[04:21] <Oli``> NMajik: You can but it's not that simple... there are a few posts around the web telling you how to go about it... eg: http://haritkothari.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/ad-hoc-wireless-networking-with-ubuntu/
[04:21] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean much safer? Running stuff in a virtual environment would be safer, as far as I can see?
[04:21] <avalys> was using the production server by mistake
[04:21] <Senrac> Can I run ebay tubro lister from wine?
[04:21] <nos> hello, everyone
[04:21] <Oli``> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I assume he means networking 2 or more machines without using an access point or router
[04:21] <camokat> xobius, thanks for your help - booting normally now. thanks!
[04:22] <Psyco_Chipmunk> I have a big problem.  When i plug in my headphones and my speakers are on, they dont turn off like they should.  How do i fix this?  bye the way, i have a lenovo n100 laptop
[04:22] <NMajik> Oli``: OK, I'll read that. Thanks. I should be able to SSH through that, right?
[04:22] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Oli``: oy ...
[04:22] <xobius> camokat, congratulations
[04:22] <Oli``> NMajik: yeah
[04:22] <joerlend> Senrac: http://appdb.winehq.org will tell you what software works and how well.
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: Running any windows program has a degree of risk.. If a user running wine has mapped / to Z which is the default then there are lots of risks...  I keep them seperate.. no writing to the other os's partitions
[04:22] <Senrac> ok, thanks
[04:23] <Oli``> Calm down FloodBot3
[04:23] <Filled-Void> Senrac, UNFORTUNATELY WINE SAYS IT DOESNT :(
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Oli``: They are testing the bots....
[04:23] <Filled-Void> gah sry
[04:23] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[04:23] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> LOL
[04:23] <Senrac> What about graphic cards under linux? Are they supported?
[04:23] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: ehrm, that's what I mean. When you run in vmware, then the os doesn't have to have access to the harddisk at all, only a file.
[04:23] <joerlend> Senrac: most are.
[04:24] <Oli``> "Test to see if the bots can flip out... Check"
[04:24] <Fryguy--> are there any plans to fix NetworkManager so that it works properly with static IPs in hardy?
[04:24] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: most vidcards are supported "out of the box", and then you can get proprietary drivers for most if you want to increase video performance.
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: a perfect example is running under wubi.. If something goes wrong in the Virtual folder it can and has trashed the ntfs drive.
[04:24] <Stonelion> (I should note I can boot into recovery mode and get the root prompt)
[04:24] <Oli``> Fryguy--: #ubuntu+1 for hardy stuff =)
[04:24] <gpm> hi guys. i don't see any text on my VCs. i can tell they are working because if i log in and try running a command, it shows up in ps, but the screen is just blank. X works fine. any clues on why this would be and how to fix it?
[04:25] <joerlend> Fryguy--: bugs are always being fixed. Search launchpad for the bug you're interested in, and you can subscribe to changes.
[04:25] <Senrac> I could always use windows xp just for turbo lister and internet use in ubuntu.
[04:25] <Fryguy--> Oli``: are there any plans on making network manager work correctly with statics in gutsy? :)
[04:25] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: that's not the same as running in a virtual environment.
[04:25] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Senrac: you could install your XP in a virtualbox within your LInux installation for that too, so you don';t have to reboot.
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> joerlend: I dont mean to debate the issue.. just trying to show there are issues with all configurations.
[04:26] <happygnuyear> Fryguy--, i guess you could just set /etc/network/interfaces to static
[04:26] <Filled-Void> Senrac,  what Em3raldMcSquizzy said above ^ . If you spend more time in Ubuntu you might want to try it on VirtualBox and see if it works
[04:26] <Senrac> what is virtualbox? where can I read up on it?
[04:26] <Oli``> lol Fryguy-- no idea personally but do as joerlend says and get involved with the launchpad bug submission and you'll probably be able to find out what its schedule is
[04:26] <peepsalot> when I run e2fsck, one of the last things is says is something like 200000/262000 blocks.  does that mean i have 62,000 bad blocks?
[04:26] <joerlend> Senrac: it's a virtualization solution like vmware.
[04:26] <Fryguy--> happygnuyear: yes, but I need to use networkmanager to do it so I can use vpn functionality (network-manager-pptp)
[04:27] <peepsalot> so basically 23% of my hard drive is dead?
[04:27] <joerlend> Senrac: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[04:28] <joerlend> peepsalot: that doesn't sound likely.
[04:28] <crazy181> is there a driver available for the ati rad 7500m other than the default ubuntu driver?
[04:28] <gpm> hi guys. i don't see any text on my VCs. i can tell they are working because if i log in and try running a command, it shows up in ps, but the screen is just blank. X works fine. any clues on why this would be and how to fix it?
[04:28] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: I think this might explain my problem with resolutions:  http://blog.sneal.net/Blog/Ubuntu1680x1050WithMyGeForce8600GT.aspx
[04:28] <mike__> I know there is a command for this, but I can't remember it and gave up looking, but does anyone know the command to make KDE apps look nice in GNOME after changing color schemes (I think it just copies a file to somewhere)
[04:28] <SANTAbios> can anyone please help me, i am trying to share files with another windows box from my ubuntu box, the windows box is a member of my domain, i can see my xp box from the ubuntu box, but it will not access it, any ideas?
[04:29] <Oli``> gpm: on your venture capitalists?
[04:29] <drgeb> Em3raldMcSquizzy is there a way to force the move to happen and copy just the files over ontop pf each other
[04:29] <Senrac> could I run EVDO from Virualbox?
[04:29] <joerlend> SANTAbios: how are you trying to connect?
[04:29] <Stonelion> Can anyone tell me if there is a easier wat to figure out why a live cd of ubuntu wont boot (probibly due to hardware errors) other than to try installing after pulling out all optional hardware?
[04:29] <joerlend> Senrac: you'd run the entire operating system.
[04:29] <jtholmes> peepsalot, no did it pass all 5 phases w/o errors
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Em3raldMcSquizzy: I tagged it for later. let me know if it works
[04:29] <SANTAbios> joerlend, network neighborhood in xp
[04:30] <Oli``> Stonelion: describe not booting? do you get to the first menu?
[04:30] <joerlend> Senrac: you can run almost any software inside the virtual environment, save for graphics accelerated stuff, which might not work properly.
[04:30] <Stonelion> the ububntu graphic is up and the progress bar is loading, but stops 80% of the way about... i did a text install and the problem happens when i try to boot normally on that as well
[04:30] <joerlend> SANTAbios: but you're trying to get files from windows onto ubuntu, or vice versa?
[04:30] <SANTAbios> yep
[04:31] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> drgeb: well, it's a wierd issue.  I just wanna make sure I know what the issue is.  Correct me if I am wrong.  You have folder A.  Folder B is inside folder A.  You are trying to MOVE folder A INTO folder B.  There lies the problem.  So, if this is true, then I must ask why you are trying to do that?
[04:31] <peepsalot> jtholmes, yes i think so
[04:31] <joerlend> Stonelion: note any errors.. It's impossible to guess without any concrete information.
[04:31] <wirser> I want to run the command "nvidia-settings" after X starts where would be the best place to put it?
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> drgeb: Copy it to a completely different location then back to where you want it
[04:32] <grayhane> looking for a simple day-timer prog without mail , any ideas ?
[04:32] <Senrac> Ok, let me see if I have this correct, I can install ubuntu, then install virtual box and run windows xp?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: yes
[04:32] <SANTAbios> joerlend. when im on my xp box, and i ttype the ip of my ubuntu box, it prompts me for a password, so i type in  hostname\user then my pw, it still acts like i typed in the wrong user and pw, Any Ideas?
[04:32] <joerlend> Senrac: yes, or other operating systems.
[04:32] <Stonelion> is there a error log i can read? When i try the recover mode option on the boot i get into the root prompt, and can navigate the filesystem
[04:32] <Oli``> Stonelion: first, instead of selecting install, look down the list for a check cd item... I thought the Ubuntu CDs had a self-checker on them. Otherwise, when the install entry is selected, press F6 and remove "splash" from the boot line and you'll be able to see exactly where it stalls
[04:32] <jtholmes> peepsalot, then the disk is clean   run  e2fsck again on same device and you should get two lines of output one will have the word 'clean' in it if the disk passed
[04:32] <Senrac> sweet!
[04:32] <joerlend> SANTAbios: actually, I was just about to look into that. I
[04:32] <Stonelion> thanks
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> SANTAbios: HAve you setup user accounts on both systems with the same user name and password?
[04:33] <Stonelion> i will try it out and see what is failing
[04:33] <joerlend> SANTAbios: didn't have much luck.
[04:33] <Oli``> Stonelion: good luck
[04:33] <peepsalot> jtholmes, i ran e2fsck -c first, then I tried plain e2fsck, and it just wrote the two lines
[04:33] <Stonelion> be back if i cant get it working myself :)
[04:33] <jtholmes> peepsalot, then the disk is now clean
[04:33] <joerlend> Jack_Sparrow: I have, but still am not able to login.
[04:33] <SANTAbios> yes, i have used the samew user name for windows and ubuntu
[04:34] <joerlend> Senrac: it's really cool, and a very nice way to experiment with software.
[04:34] <peepsalot> ok i need to check the other partitions now
[04:34] <MTecknology> anyt suggestions for the most idiot proof proxy? I have ctrlproxy - but all I can figure out is how to connect to it
[04:34] <jtholmes> peepsalot, yes
[04:34] <peepsalot> jtholmes, do you know what the numbers mean?  the ratio of blocks and files it shows
[04:35] <jtholmes> peepsalot, i think it is the ratio of used to free
[04:35] <peepsalot> ah ok
[04:35] <jtholmes> peepsalot, so in your case your 23% is how much free space is left on the device
[04:35] <Aishiko> OK I've got a hardware question and I'm looking for advice, etc if anyone is up on the latest in hardware could you give me a small hand?
[04:36] <peepsalot> gotta go try again. brb
[04:36] <ari_stress> hi guys, how long/until when feisty will be supported?
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[04:36] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[04:37] <crazy181> hey guys i have a Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] is there another driver available for this card?
[04:37] <tuntun> gutsy indexes files by default yes? what application is provided to utilise it?
[04:37] <crdlb> crazy181: no.
[04:37] <crdlb> why would you want another one?
[04:37] <DragonSpirit> I installed the other mouse cursors in the repositories yet when I change the cursor theme with the mouse cursor changer it stays the same, is there something in ubuntu preventing me from doing this?
[04:37] <crdlb> (what isn't working?)
[04:37] <elde1> Aishiko: Ask your question if someone knows the answer they will reply.
[04:37] <Oli``> tuntun: tracker and beagle
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit: Are you running gutsy and compiz?
[04:38] <Aishiko> OK I'm trying to decide between 2 CPUs Dual core 2.6 1MB L2 and a Quad at 2.2 512L2 and 2MB L3 paired with approiriate RAM (DDR2 800 and 1066 respectively) you know to get the best bang for the buck
[04:38] <DragonSpirit> Jack_Sparrow, yes.
[04:38] <teimu> where can i find the iconset for the default gdm theme (not on the net, but on this install)?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit: Ask for help in #Compiz  they are good at how to do that stuff.. that is where I go
[04:39] <DragonSpirit> thanks Jack_Sparrow, I'll give it a go
[04:39] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> Jack_Sparrow: okay, I am off to try this solution.  I will be back to let you know if it worked :D
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> I doubt I will still be here
[04:40] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> okay.  Interestingly my ctrl-alt-f* keys bring me to "out of range"
[04:40] <wirser> ok next question if I want to load a kernel module at boot where does it go  in gutsy?
[04:40] <RedAlien_> Another question : how do I set the resolution of tty1-6?
[04:41] <tuntun> is tracker the only way to searched indexed files (beagle doesn't seem to be installed by default)?
[04:41] <RedAlien_> Currently it's like if my resolution was 100X100 =S!
[04:41] <elde1> How do i get off of this irc server so that i may join another? or is possible to be on both at the same time?
[04:41] <Aishiko> wirser, that would be int he /boot directory I thing the grub file is the one you want to look at
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: try usr/share/icons/gnome   just a guess
[04:41] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> elde1 type in /join #whatevertheroomnameis
[04:41] <RedAlien_> elde1, try xchat
[04:42] <Senrac> What MUD software does linux have?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: try usr/share/gdm/themes   just a guess
[04:42] <PanzerMKZ> Senrac what you playing?
[04:42] <Some_Person> Why doesn't Totem work in Firefox 3?
[04:42] <Em3raldMcSquizzy> MUDs rock
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Isnt firefox3 still beta?
[04:43] <jtholmes> !topic
[04:43] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[04:43] <RedAlien_> Anyone knows how to set resolution for tty1 to tty6?
[04:43] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[04:43] <Senrac> Shadowrun, Nukeusa, and a few others
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Good enough reason for everything to not be working yet
[04:44] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, but everything except Totem seems extremely stable
[04:44] <zcat[1]> RedAlien_: in /boot/grub/menu.conf, kernel option vga=n
[04:44] <RedAlien_> thank zcat[1]
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Not something we can do anything about in here...
[04:45] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: So far, no problems on Windows or Ubuntu (except the virus I have in windows that is screwing up Windows Media Player, and Totem's incompatibility)
[04:45] <Senrac> Where can I find information on what video drivers are supported?
[04:45] <wirser> Jack_Sparrow, for the nvidia-settings or the kernel module ? i'm thinking of adding a line in some /etcfile for both questions
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Glad to hear it.. hopefully it will be ready for use in HArdy
[04:46] <Some_Person> Jack_Sparrow: WHAT? It won't be in Ubuntu until HARDY?!
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> wirser: No idea what you were up to with that...
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: It will be ready when it is ready...  the hard core users can build it themselves
[04:47] <Some_Person> true, probably will be a repository
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Again... this is not the place for that discussion
[04:47] <Some_Person> ok
[04:47] <Some_Person> so what is?
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> See topic...
[04:48] <quinton_> Everytime I attempt to use flash the video im trying to watch does not load.
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Some_Person: Help and support for current release and versions.. not beta this or alpha that.
[04:48] <Senrac> is flash supported under linux?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > quinton_
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Senrac: there is a fix.. but it is currently broken
[04:49] <quinton_> jack_sparrow, ?
[04:49] <Some_Person> Yeah, but I thought that referred to ubuntu versions, not app versions........ nevermind
[04:49] <wirser> Jack_Sparrow: simple two items I wish to load and configure a kernel module at startup then when X starts I want program "nvidia-setting" to start to adjust screen gamma
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> time for me to call it a night...   goodnight all....
[04:49] <happygnuyear> i got flash to install when i went to utube, somehow.
[04:52] <Senrac> Does Virtualbox support intel?
[04:52] <exile> is there a command to get the current kernel config?
[04:52] <elde1> does anyone know if the Mac dl for ventrilo is compatible with ubuntu 7.10
[04:53] <mfreitas> aaaaaa
[04:53] <PurpZeY> Elde: I there is some equivalent....It might run in Wine...I know plenty of WoWers need it
[04:53] <tuntun> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome?
[04:53] <exile> ive tried the windows vent with gentoo
[04:54] <Dr_willis> elde1,  Mac Os is not Linux.
[04:54] <PurpZeY> exile: I believe there is a program that is an equivalent that hooks up with trilo....I don't play WoW so, I don't know for sure. Let me see if I can find it in the forums
[04:54] <elde1> Purpzey: would you suggest dling the windows client and using it via wine?
[04:55] <exile> is there a way to see the current kernel config in ubuntu so i can check some stuff?
[04:55] <cptR3D> elde1: ventrilo is in the add/remove programs for ubuntu
[04:55] <PurpZeY> cptR3D: It is?
[04:55] <exile> i'd suggest the windows client, but you need to have a file from the windows folder to make it work
[04:55] <cptR3D> PurpZeY: yep i saw it
[04:55] <cptR3D> oh wait....
[04:56] <cptR3D> that was teamspeak
[04:56] <cptR3D> !teamspeak
[04:56] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[04:56] <cptR3D> !ventrilo
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <exile> lol
[04:56] <PurpZeY> elde1: Teamspeak is the equivalent to ventrilo and I believe it interfaces
[04:56] <elde1> yeeaa i know. but i prefer vent lol
[04:56] <elde1> better quality
[04:57] <Aishiko> PurpZeY, teamspeak and ventrilo are different and not cross compatable
[04:57] <PurpZeY> elde1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737&highlight=Ventrilo
[04:57] <jebblue> !vmware
[04:57] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:57] <PurpZeY> Aishiko: I misspoke, and have now addressed both issue s
[04:57] <htmljunkie> hello all
[04:57] <PurpZeY> elde1: It appears trilo will run under wine, given the config I just posted to you.
[04:58] <htmljunkie> can someone explain why servers use xeons vs core 2 and what the differences are?
[04:58] <tuntun> oh man gutsy just crashed. Were are the crash logs located?
[04:59] <Wowerz> i was trying to fix the permissions of a cd bruned by a mac and messedu pt he uuid of my cdrom, is there a way to fix this ? as the backup fstab has the same uuid in it as well.
[04:59] <Wowerz> messed up the *
[04:59] <Wowerz> is there a way to manually reset the uuid of the cdrom ?
[04:59] <foson> hi
[05:00] <tuntun> *oh man gutsy just crashed. Were are the crash logs located?
[05:00] <PurpZeY> /var/log
[05:00] <DragonSpirit> thanks to who told me to go to #compiz
[05:00] <foson> anyone direct me to the mythtv project?
[05:00] <truna> WoWerz yes via udev but i dont know what the parameters are
[05:00] <PurpZeY> !mythtv
[05:00] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:00] <Wowerz> udev ?
[05:01] <truna> yes..man udev
[05:01] <Wowerz> man udev . ok, i'll try --help
[05:02] <foson> thanks
[05:02] <truna> or google for it..way too many options
[05:02] <htmljunkie> can someone explain why servers use xeons vs core 2 and what the differences are?
[05:02] <tuntun> whats the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome in the add/remove window?
[05:02] <PurpZeY> tuntun: I believe, xchat-gnome is specifically for the GNOME Environment
[05:03] <Pie-rat2> i have local mirrors of both the feisty and gutsy repositories. is there any way i can get my feisty box to upgrade to gutsy using those?
[05:03] <PurpZeY> Pie-rat2: I am not entirely sure I follow
[05:03] <xzased> How can I switch to runlevel3
[05:03] <Ttech> Anyone use Evolution?
[05:03] <Myrtti> PurpZeY: xchat-gnome is a version of xchat with stripped down functionality from xchat.
[05:04] <Ttech> How do you set the port for smtp email on Evolution?
[05:04] <happygnuyear> Pie-rat2, i believe it is as easy as update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[05:04] <PurpZeY> Myrtti: Learn something new....=)
[05:04] <portablejim> What is the process 'trackerd'?
[05:04] <truna> xzased, 2,3,4 &5 are same in ubuntu  to change..telinit 3
[05:04] <Myrtti> portablejim: it indexes your files for the search applets and like
[05:05] <Pie-rat2> happygnuyear: so, do i put my gutsy mirrors in sources.list, update, and tell it to dist-upgrade?
[05:05] <xzased> truna Thanks so much
[05:05] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: what are you trying to do?
[05:05] <truna> xzased, you are welcome
[05:05] <portablejim> so the reason why it is hogging my CPU is because I just moved files?
[05:05] <happygnuyear> update, upgrade, and then dist-upgrade
[05:06] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i have local apt-mirrors of all of the gutsy and feisty repositories. i want to upgrade from those
[05:06] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: that's not exactly a good idea - to edit the sources.list and do it that way
[05:06] <truna> portablejim, it probably is trying to update somekind of has or database
[05:06] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: eh. screw it, i'll just reinstall and keep my home partition intact
[05:06] <PurpZeY> Pie-rat2: That's a good way to go if you can stomach it.
[05:06] <portablejim> I have moved files, so it would be re-finding the files that I moved?
[05:07] <ogre> what do i have to install to ket kde going? in trying to switch from gnome
[05:07] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: I don't know how the "update-manager -c" checks it
[05:07] <tuntun> is Tracker the only default way of searching indexed files?
[05:07] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: but that's the correct way of doing the normal update
[05:07] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Beagle
[05:07] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i wonder how many GB of packages i have...
[05:07] <happygnuyear> Pie-rat2, there may be some gconf stuff that may not update correctly though.  and you may want to let the system recreate your gnome settings
[05:08] <Myrtti> Pie-rat2: du -sh
[05:08] <tuntun> Beagle doesn't seem to be installed by default
[05:08] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: the graphical tool is scanning it now
[05:08] <PurpZeY> tuntun: I don't think it's default
[05:08] <PurpZeY> tuntun: In fact, I know it isn't.
[05:08] <Oli``> my bad, tuntun
[05:08] <tuntun> so just tracker?
[05:08] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: enough that it's taking disk usage analyzer over a minute to scan it
[05:09] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i need another HDD for a RAID0
[05:09] <Myrtti> well, graphical tools are in general slower than cli ones
[05:09] <Myrtti> so nothing new there
[05:10] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: i doubt its that much slower, it probably just uses du
[05:10] <ogre> how do i get kde if i have a gnome desktop?
[05:10] <mrdigital> i cant boot into ubuntu it hangs after editing the grub
[05:10] <Myrtti> ogre: depends if you want the kde apps too
[05:10] <Pie-rat2> Myrtti: 67.1 GB of packages mirrored
[05:10] <Myrtti> :-/
[05:10] <ogre> Myrtti,  yeah i do
[05:11] <Myrtti> ogre: system -admin -synaptic -search "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:11] <pupa9999> hi all, a am a total noob when it comes to linux so please don't blast me whne I ask dumb questions
[05:11] <Myrtti> pupa9999: go ahead and ask
[05:11] <kote> anyone had any luck with dmraid on intel raid10?
[05:11] <PurpZeY> pupa9999: We don't do that here
[05:12]  * ste-foy kiss myrtion 
[05:12] <happygnuyear> ogre, kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <ste-foy> erf - myrtion + Myrtti
[05:12] <pupa9999> I am looking to setup a CIFS share so that my windows XP workstation can access files on my ubuntu server
[05:12] <Aishiko> ogre just use synpatc and download and install the KDE-core and assoated packages and tehn use the options on boot up to choose KDE as your prefered desktop
[05:13] <pupa9999> how do i do this. If you cant explain, please just point me to a document
[05:13] <PurpZeY> pupa9999: I've never done such a thing, but I am told samba is the way to share files that way
[05:13] <Aishiko> pupa9999, use Samba, it's decent and has graphical interfaces to make it easy on noobs
[05:13] <PurpZeY> !samba | pupa9999
[05:13] <ubotu> pupa9999: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[05:14] <pupa9999> so is SAMBA and CIFS the same thing?
[05:14] <Kevin`> samba is a program that acts as a cifs server
[05:15] <pupa9999> can ubuntu be a CIFS server without SAMBA?
[05:15] <Myrtti> no
[05:15] <happygnuyear> nfs works excellent and is the preferred way
[05:15] <PurpZeY> nfs is only local though
[05:16] <PurpZeY> Or at least, I haven't used it beyond that
[05:17] <Aishiko> pupa9999, no they are different
[05:17] <pupa9999> Aishiko what is better?
[05:18] <PurpZeY> !best | pupa9999
[05:18] <ubotu> pupa9999: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[05:18] <Aishiko> pupa9999, up to the user and what they want to to do with them
[05:18] <KiD_ChAoS> Is there a way that ubuntu can mount usb flash drives that have NOT been 'safely removed' from a windows machine. Windows has this capability and it is becoming beyond annoying
[05:18] <pupa9999> ok speed wise what is faster?
[05:19] <PurpZeY> KiD_ChAoS: My understanding is no.
[05:19] <Aishiko> pupa9999, again that depends on your hardware, LAN, and the settings on the machines
[05:19] <SonicEarth> What's up everyone?
[05:19] <KiD_ChAoS> PurpZeY, i c
[05:19] <pupa9999> ok moving on to the next question :)
[05:19] <PurpZeY> KiD_ChAoS: Have to safely remove, or in ubuntu eject
[05:20] <tuntun> I installed flashplugin-nonfree yesterday without knowing that it was broken. how long has it been a problem and when might it be fixed?
[05:20] <PurpZeY> tuntun: It is a known issue.
[05:20] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Not sure how long on either count
[05:22] <pupa9999> i have a 1TB SCSI storage array attached to my UBUNTU server. I need to create volumes on it so I can share it. One being the Volume for my windows environment. No again I am new so bare with me. Do I first need to creat the physical volume, then volume group , then the volumes within that group?
[05:22] <zero88> where are commands such as ls and cd and such located???
[05:22] <PurpZeY> zero88: located?
[05:22] <shredder_> Is it possible to view the incoming url address from the ip address sending the url?
[05:22] <zero88> purpzey ya, when i type ls, how does the terminal know what to do at that point?
[05:23] <PurpZeY> zero88: it's part of the bash shell
[05:23]  * AzMoo growls at the au mirror.
[05:23] <zero88> purpzey ah. is it expandable?
[05:23] <vbabiy_laptop> Hey Guys, where would i put a bash script to be run as soon as i have logged in to gnome
[05:23] <PurpZeY> zero88: What is it you want to do?
[05:23] <bobgill> when I run thunar --daemon from terminal, it works, but from alt+f2 (gmrun) it doesn't :?
[05:24] <zero88> purpzey, say I wanted to make my own commands.
[05:24] <PurpZeY> zero88: Then you'd need to code them and compile them.
[05:24] <AzMoo> Is it possible to select a mirror before you start your install?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, i think the mirror is auto picked by the timezone you select
[05:25] <xzased> Ok guys. My graphics card is driving me nuts. Its a nvidia GeForce 420 go. The driver is nvidia, but when I install it the screen goes kaput
[05:25] <zero88> purpzey ya, just your basic bash commands I assume? But how do I incorporate it with the bash shell?
[05:25] <Aishiko> pupa9999, huh? is it formated, if so they already exist and if windows is on it then I have to assume it is
[05:25] <xzased> I tried installing it from the nvidia site as well... my screen keeps dying
[05:26] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: yeah, but the au mirror is down *again*, and it breaks the install when it times out.
[05:26] <shredder_> I want to paste song url's into my new player, how do I find song url's to paste?
[05:26] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, choose a different time zone for the install, then when its done fix your time
[05:26] <PurpZeY> zero88: I'm not sure I am understanding oyu
[05:26] <xzased> any thoughts on these one
[05:27] <pupa9999> aishiko, this is a brand new storage array I attached to the ubuntu server. There is nothing on it. the only thing done to it is a hardware raid has been setup.
[05:27] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: I think it would be easier to just not configure the network after the install. It just seems odd to me that it doesn't give you the ability to put in a mirror. What if you have your own?
[05:28] <zero88> purpzey, ok. In a terminal, when I type ls, it list's the current dir's contents. If I wanted to type make my own command say lsb and have that command list the contents of a previous dir, with the command  cd .. ls, or something like that, how would i make that work
[05:28] <tuntun> hmm, how do I remove the xchat icon from the notification area?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> AzMoo, i dont know, its just how the ubuntu installer works, i would suggest at least mentioning it to the devs and see if they think its important enough to include (i think it is)
[05:29] <zero88> purpzey sorry, i cant really say what im really trying to say :)
[05:29] <PurpZeY> zero88: Sounds like you could write a bash script
[05:29] <Aishiko> then I would suggest looking for something like partaion editor to do that
[05:29] <solid_liquid> zero88, easy
[05:29] <zero88> purpzey, ya , but i only want to type lsb, instead of ./lsb or ./home/user/folder/lsb
[05:29] <solid_liquid> zero88, just do:   alias lsb='ls ..'
[05:29] <AzMoo> MasterShrek: Yeah, I think I might.
[05:30] <zero88> solid_liquid but will the command be perminant after that
[05:30] <solid_liquid> zero88, to make that permanent, put it in your ~/.bashrc file
[05:30] <pupa9999> Aishiko can it be done through the command line
[05:30] <solid_liquid> zero88, and I'd call it lsp personally, for list parent ;)
[05:30] <zero88> solid_liquid awsome thanks. and thanks purpzey for the help
[05:31] <solid_liquid> zero88, np
[05:31] <zero88> solid_liquid :)
[05:31] <Aishiko> I don't know how to but I'm sure it can be
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, oh, and if you want to know where any command is located, type (for ls, for example):    which ls
[05:32] <zero88> solid_liquid  so add alias lsp='ls ..' to the end of the file?
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, and you can do:     whereis ls       to find out where all pertinent files for it are
[05:32] <solid_liquid> zero88, yep, that'll work
[05:33] <zero88> solid_liquid kool
[05:33] <solid_liquid> zero88, :)
[05:33] <PurpZeY> zero88: I'd suggest asking in #bash they can help with this sort of thing, sounds like you might have other plans in mind
[05:33] <DigitalNinja> A friend just ask me about upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. I told him just run "atp-get dist-upgrade". Is this correct?
[05:33] <zero88> purpzey what do u mean
[05:33] <solid_liquid> heheh, I like dropping a little advice in the newbie (this) channel occasionally ;)  none of this stuff it difficult ;)
[05:34] <solid_liquid> s/it/is/
[05:34] <zcat[1]> !upgrade
[05:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:34] <nickrud> !upgrade | DigitalNinja (that's not really the best way)
[05:34] <ubotu> DigitalNinja (that's not really the best way): please see above
[05:34] <zero88> solid_liquid how do i update the ~/.bashrc file so the command works?
[05:34] <PurpZeY> zero88: If you are doing what you simply saying to do....you can do it...just like solid_liquid says....BUT...if you intend to start messing around with bash scripts and all sorts of thing like that asking in #bash is a good idea
[05:34] <ljsmithx> How do I know what version of ubuntu I'm on???
[05:35] <timothyjackson> who here knows how to use ubuntu on Mac?
[05:35] <solid_liquid> PurpZeY, I'd go read the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide on tldp.org for that actually, zero88 ;)
[05:35] <nickrud> ljsmithx, lsb_release -a in a terminal
[05:35] <DigitalNinja> nickrud: What?
[05:35] <solid_liquid> zero88, at the shell, type:       . ~/.bashrc
[05:35] <ljsmithx> Thanks
[05:35] <PurpZeY> solid_liquid: Not a bad idea either
[05:35] <zero88> purpzey ah ok i know what you are saying. yes i will do that. solid_liquid will do, thanks for the link
[05:35] <nickrud> DigitalNinja, ubuntu's provided some tools that make sure you have a smooth upgrade, along with some advice on that page. I'd emphasize disabling any third party repos
[05:36] <solid_liquid> zero88, np
[05:36] <timothyjackson> anybody?
[05:36] <zero88> solid_liquid how would I read the /bin/ls file?
[05:36] <DigitalNinja> nickrud: Is there a website I can go to for instructions.
[05:36] <ljsmithx> timothyjackson,
[05:37] <ljsmithx> ohh hes gone
[05:37] <nickrud> DigitalNinja, ah, you missed it. Just above my !upgrade, there's another with the link
[05:37] <zcat[1]> od /bin/ls perhaps?
[05:37] <solid_liq> zero88, read it?  how do you mean?
[05:37] <DigitalNinja> Got it
[05:37] <PurpZeY> solid_liq: He wants to read the commadn
[05:37] <PurpZeY> solid_liq: The code
[05:37] <tjmac> Can anyone help me with my Ubuntu on Mac???
[05:37] <zero88> solid_liquid well ive tried gedit /bin/ls but it says something about the coddec
[05:37] <solid_liq> zero88, for the code, you'll have to get the source package
[05:37] <zcat[1]> what package has the source for the ls command?
[05:37] <ljsmithx> what is a good software library for ubuntu? like a website
[05:38] <ljsmithx> I want more apps
[05:38] <solid_liq> zero88, that's compiled C code, so it's machine code
[05:38] <xkarimx> Hye all! May i know how by using SSH i can run Xchat IRC on my Ubuntu? Thanxs
[05:38] <Ttech> ljsmithx, err did you add the multi and universe?
[05:38] <zcat[1]> ljsmithx: cafeugo
[05:38] <zero88> solid_liquid ahhh
[05:38] <ljsmithx> ?
[05:38] <nickrud> zcat[1],   dpkg -S /bin/ls   says coreutils
[05:38] <ljsmithx> how? and what was the second one?
[05:38] <zcat[1]> but generally there's about 18000 packages in the repos.. you don't really need to download stuff most of the time
[05:38] <solid_liq> zero88, so you'll have to get the C source code...  try     apt-get source coreutils
[05:38] <zero88> solid_liquid ok, well if I made a bash script and put it in bin, and named it lsp, would simply typing lsp in terminal also work?
[05:38] <ljsmithx> ohh yeah I did.
[05:39] <ljsmithx> Whats the cafe?
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, yeah, except you'd first have to do:     chmod +x /bin/ls
[05:39] <tjmac> Can anyone answer a few basic questions for me?
[05:39] <zero88> solid_liquid ok sweet thanks alot
[05:39] <ljsmithx> !ask
[05:39] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, that sets the execute bit, so that linux will recognize it as being a file it can execute somehow
[05:39] <solid_liq> zero88, and you may have to ensure the permissions are correct
[05:39] <zcat[1]> !cafeugo
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafeugo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <zero88> solid_liquid ok
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, so:    ls -l /bin/ls*
[05:40] <zcat[1]> did I spell it wrong?
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, and make the permissions of lsp match those of ls
[05:40] <nickrud> zcat[1], no, that's right
[05:40] <ljsmithx> http://cafeugo.com/ Cafe Uge is an italian cafe... thats not anything todo with ubuntu lol
[05:40] <solid_liq> zero88, man chmod      and       man chgrp      to learn about that
[05:40] <zcat[1]> no factoid though... what's the website?
[05:40] <zero88> solid_liquid ok
[05:40] <tjmac> 1.) How do I boot into Ubuntu when I start my mac. 2.) How do I install programs on Ubuntu, I can't figure it out. 3.) I don't get sound on my computer when using Linux how do I fix this?
[05:41] <solid_liq> zero88, or maybe a google for "linux file permissions" may give you something easier to read
[05:41] <nickrud> ljsmithx, cafuego.net
[05:41] <gary4gar> my floppy drive does not work, i get "Unable to mount the volume. , here is a screenshot "http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/gary4gar/Screenshot-gnome-mount.png"
[05:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Once you install ubuntu it should give a "boot loader" called grub, a menu should give you a choice....Did you install?
[05:41] <ljsmithx> thanks, does that have software on it?
[05:41] <xkarimx> sorry tjmac, i never have experience run ubuntu on mac platform:)
[05:41]  * nickrud thinks cafuego is being overly modest about ubotu
[05:42] <zcat[1]> found it: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net
[05:42] <ljsmithx> zcat, thanks
[05:42] <ljsmithx> tjmac, are you using a powerpc mac of intel?
[05:42] <ljsmithx> or*
[05:42] <tjmac> PurpZeY: I am VERY new at this, I put the ISO on the cd and put it in, I chose the option that says "start Ubuntu or Install."
[05:42] <zcat[1]> nice place to get the things that ubuntu won't package for whatever reason... like dvdcss2 and stuff
[05:42] <tjmac> that is ll I know
[05:43] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Yes, then you should drop into what is called the "LiveCD" which is an 'imitation' of what the operating system will look like, once you install it
[05:43] <dinesh86> ubuntu gutsy live cd sync out of range
[05:43] <gary4gar> my floppy drive does not work, i get "Unable to mount the volume. , here is a screenshot "http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj253/gary4gar/Screenshot-gnome-mount.png"
[05:43] <tjmac> than what do I do next?
[05:43] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If you are ready to install, double click the "install" button
[05:43] <tuntun> how do I remove the xchat icon from the notification area?
[05:43] <zcat[1]> gbg ttfn
[05:44] <ljsmithx> If I add repos, will they show up in Add/Remove?
[05:44] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Otherwise, play around, see what the deal is w/ ubuntu without any harm to your system
[05:44] <PurpZeY> ljsmithx: Yes.
[05:44] <shadowbw> tuntun- right click on it and Hide
[05:44] <ljsmithx> cool
[05:44] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Right click
[05:44] <nickrud> ljsmithx, no, those are custom installers made by ubuntu
[05:44] <ljsmithx> ?
[05:44] <nickrud> ljsmithx, but they will show up in synaptic
[05:44] <ljsmithx> Yes and no :S
[05:44] <PurpZeY> ljsmithx: I am wrong.
[05:44] <ljsmithx> Ok
[05:44] <PurpZeY> nickrud knows a lot more than me
[05:44] <ljsmithx> LOL!
[05:44] <tuntun> that only hides the xchat window
[05:44] <PurpZeY> I made an assumption
[05:45] <nickrud> PurpZeY, heh. you also know more than I :)
[05:45] <abdulla>  is Xubuntu worth using ? rather then ubuntu>?
[05:45] <dinesh86> ubuntu gutsy live cd sync out of range problem
[05:45] <PurpZeY> nickrud: Maybe about law...
[05:45] <gary4gar> !floppy
[05:45] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[05:45] <abdulla> i want power but even abit of looks like , compiz and a custom theme style
[05:45] <tjmac> oh ok
[05:45] <nickrud> PurpZeY, other stuff here as well. We all have our strengths
[05:45] <PurpZeY> nickrud: Fair enough...;)
[05:45] <tjmac> after I install Ubuntu, than how do I go between the operating systems on my mac when I start it up?
" right click  only hides the xchat window
[05:46] <ljsmithx> I had alot of trouble using ubuntu on my g3... I think it may have been my ati-rage pro graphics card..
[05:46] <PurpZeY> abdulla: compiz does not run in xubuntu if I understand things.
[05:46] <crdlb> PurpZeY: you don't :)
[05:46] <tjmac> also how do I start Beryl?
[05:46] <PurpZeY> crdlb: twice in a row, not a shocker
[05:46] <tuntun> oh and why isn't the "eyecandy" theme installed with xchat?
[05:46] <ljsmithx> ahhh! something went wrong
[05:46] <ljsmithx> W: GPG error: http://us.ubuntu.cafuego.net gutsy-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 81600957AF425CB5
[05:46] <tjmac> I dont what?
[05:47] <crdlb> compiz will run pretty much anywhere
[05:47] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Beryl is no longer in existence. compiz-fusion has become the effects.
[05:47] <dinesh86> syn out of range problem
[05:47] <PurpZeY> crdlb: I thought it was gnome based.
[05:47] <tjmac> than how do I install that?
[05:47] <abdulla> PurpZeY, u sure? compiz cant run in xfc?
[05:47] <PurpZeY> abdulla: I am wrong. it can
[05:47] <abdulla> even if you get the essentials ?
[05:47] <tjmac> and how do I install an IRC chat client so I can chat from ubuntu
[05:47] <nickrud> ljsmithx, you didn't add the gpg key to your key-ring, see the front page again it has instructions
[05:48] <ljsmithx> ok
[05:48] <tuntun> why isn't the "eyecandy" theme installed with xchat?
[05:48] <ljsmithx> thanks
[05:48] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Installing programs and packages is very simple to do using add/remove or synaptic package installer
[05:48] <crdlb> PurpZeY: no, ubuntu has provided some integration between compiz and gnome (as have the upstream compiz and compiz fusion developers), but all that is optional
[05:48] <shadowbw> tjmac - Ubuntu comes installed with XChat I believe
[05:48] <abdulla> i dont see the diffrence in Ubuntu and Xubuntu? then? , is the power diffrent? which will promise me more saftey to my files i dont want to have some glitches just to bypass speed
[05:48] <PurpZeY> crdlb: Got it .
[05:48] <nickrud> crdlb, is compiz easily used with xfce?
[05:48] <tjmac> ok so do I just click add remove and it automatically installs, and where do I find Xchat?
[05:49] <nickrud> crdlb, nm, I read back :)
[05:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Under the applications menu you'll search for internet programs or for chat and it will install it
[05:49] <dinesh86> sync out of range problem
[05:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Applications --> Add/remove --> Internet
[05:50] <tjmac> awesome thanks guys I am going to install Ubuntu and I will be right back
[05:51] <Smegzor> I want to be able to search my nfs shares.  I've installed Beagle, but is there a tool that will just search rather than insist on indexing then searching?
[05:51] <abdulla> Smegzor, get Ubuntu Go
[05:52] <abdulla> i mean Smegzor Gnome DO
[05:52] <Smegzor> i have that already
[05:52] <abdulla> ?
[05:52] <abdulla> not good enough
[05:52] <shadowbw> who was asking about hiding the system tray icon?
[05:52] <PurpZeY> Smegzor: Beagle has to index files. . .
[05:52] <PurpZeY> shadow: tuntun
[05:52] <Smegzor> yeah I know :(
[05:54] <Smegzor> hmm!  I have Gnome Do, but I use KDE and I can't see it in the menu.  I'll see if I can run it anyway
[05:54] <ljsmithx> When I run aMSN, I choose get more skins and I get a message like this... Cannot execut mozzila url$
[05:54] <ljsmithx> somthing like that
[05:54] <tuntun> gutsy crashed again...*sigh*
[05:54] <shadowbw> the answer to hiding the xchat icon is in Xchat -> Settings -> Prefrences -> Alerts
[05:55] <nickrud> ljsmithx, not sure where to look, but somewhere in the options it'll say what browser to use, you need to change it to firefox I'd expect
[05:55] <zero88> solid_liquid hey u there still
[05:55] <tuntun> gutsy crashed again...*sigh*
[05:55] <PurpZeY> tuntun: You sure it's gutsy and not just compiz?
[05:56] <marltu> how can I change permissions for ntfs mounted devices. i want them to be 777
[05:56] <ljsmithx> ok
[05:56] <marltu> (drivers)
[05:56] <marltu> (drives)
[05:56] <dinesh86> sync out of range problem
[05:56] <marltu> or partitions, whatever :)
[05:56] <tuntun> PurpZeY: I am suspecting compiz because it always freezes mid transistion, but that would still mean that gutsy was acrashin'
[05:57] <PurpZeY> tuntun: Is it a total freeze, or you just lose windows borders and things?
[05:57] <shadowbw> I had same problem with Fiesty to Gutsy upgrade
[05:57] <shadowbw> fresh Gutsy install fixed my problem
[05:58] <tuntun> PurpZeY: total freeze, but Borders and this also go missing occasionally without any impact
[05:58] <evil_tech> stupid question time. how do i figure out what device is hd0?
[05:58] <gary4gar> dinesh86, whats your monitor model, check the proper sync valued in mannual & supply that by sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <PurpZeY> tuntun: The borders thing is easily fixed, right click on the CCSM, hit "reload windows manager"
[05:58] <nickrud> evil_tech, that would be ide0 drive 0
[05:58] <tuntun> evil_tech: sorry, you mist stupid question time for today! :O
[05:59] <evil_tech> so if i am installing to sda2 should i change the (hd0) in the advance tab of the installer?
[05:59] <dinesh86> thanx gary
[05:59] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: Eh.....not sure that's right
[05:59] <evil_tech> hmm
[06:00] <nickrud> evil_tech if you're talking about the where it wants to write the boot record, leave it as hd0 since that's where the bios will look for it
[06:00] <evil_tech>  i dont want it messing up my vista drive
[06:00] <shadowbw> vista probably messed up your vista drive
[06:00] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: You are going to have a problem b/c ubuntu/vista b/c vista likes to eat drives
[06:01] <evil_tech> when i am using vista the ubuntu drive isnt in the bay
[06:01] <nickrud> evil_tech, if you don't, you'll probably need to make a boot floppy to boot ubuntu
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: How many drives do you have?
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: 2 physical disks?
[06:01] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: Ah....hard swap.
[06:01] <zero88> VISTA sucks
[06:01] <evil_tech> 1 SATA with Vista
[06:01] <AzMoo> zero88: totally.
[06:01] <ryancr> I am using the Terminal Server Client, and I am trying to connect to a remote xp machine using rdp, I get the xp prompt but it doesn't seem to want to except the password, any ideas.
[06:01] <evil_tech> 2 removable bays one with Ubuntu and one with Fedora 8
[06:01] <Cpudan80> And you want to shrink the Vista partition and install Ubuntu evil_tech ?
[06:01] <evil_tech> no
[06:01]  * nickrud thinks vista is just fine, for what it is
[06:01] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Back up a minute
[06:01] <evil_tech> intalling it on its own drive
[06:02] <PurpZeY> ryancr: I'd figure go with SAMBA, just my opinion.
[06:02] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: How many physical disks do you have
[06:02] <shadowbw> ryancr: check out rdesktop
[06:02] <RedAlien> How do I know which charset my system is using?
[06:02] <evil_tech> 3
[06:02] <tuntun> PurpZeY: well the titlebar on an newly active window occasionally presents itself as inactive, and the window buttons aren't framed, its not a big nuisance tough.
[06:02]  * zero88 tosses AzMoo smashed copies of Windblows
[06:02] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: OK - now is each disk SATA - or are some of them IDE?
[06:02] <PurpZeY> tuntun: well, that's the fix. . .
[06:02] <evil_tech> 2 ide 1 sata
[06:02] <ryancr> well i believe terminal server client just uses rdesktop, and i tried rdesktop at the command line and got the same result
[06:02] <evil_tech> but the IDE are on a pci controller
[06:02] <tuntun> PurpZeY: thnx
[06:03] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: OK, Vista is on which drive?
[06:03] <ryancr> "The system could not log you on. Make sure your Username and domain are correct..."
[06:03] <evil_tech> SATA
[06:03] <Cpudan80> Vista should be SDA1
[06:03] <Cpudan80> The other two will be SDB1 and SDC1, respectively
[06:03] <evil_tech> not according to the partitioner
[06:04] <Cpudan80> The primary IDE drive will take B, the secondary will take C
[06:04] <ljsmithx> Ok I fixed it
[06:04] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: What does the partitioner say?
[06:04] <nickrud> evil_tech, can you choose the boot drive at boot time?
[06:04] <kote> no more hda? huh
[06:04] <shadowbw> ryancr: when I did this I remember having that same problem, you doing this on a LAN connection?
[06:04] <evil_tech> Vista is on sdc
[06:04] <evil_tech> im installing ubuntu to sda
[06:04] <evil_tech> and sdb is my storage drive
[06:05] <ryancr> shadowbw: no across regular network, home -> office
[06:05] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: What's the boot order in your BIOS?
[06:05] <evil_tech> Sony DVD ROM
[06:05] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It could be that your BIOS gives preference to the IDE drives
[06:05] <Cpudan80> In which case, vista would be SDC1
[06:05] <evil_tech> Then the drive i am trying to install Ubuntu on (removable ide)
[06:05] <ryancr> shadowbw: just trying to figure out if its some flag i am missing
[06:05] <Cpudan80> OK great
[06:05] <evil_tech> then the vista drive last
[06:06] <Cpudan80> So ubuntu is SDA1, vista is SDC1
[06:06] <Cpudan80> So... what's the problem?
[06:06] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I think he was just looking for the proper config
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Oh well
[06:07] <Cpudan80> That's it then :-)
[06:07] <evil_tech> the installer is going to install grub to hd0. shouldnt it install to the drive ubuntu is going to be on (SDA1 according to the installers partitioner)
[06:07] <AzMoo> Any ideas on how to use > and sudo at the same time?
[06:07] <nickrud> evil_tech, that is sda :)
[06:07] <PurpZeY> evil_tech: You have to do manual.
[06:07] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It needs to put grub on the first boot device
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Which, in your case is SDA1
[06:07] <nickrud> evil_tech, sda in this context is ide0 drive 0
[06:07] <shadowbw> ryancr: I believe I had to make an account on the XP machine that used my Ubuntu's username and password
[06:07] <Cpudan80> Which is HD0
[06:08] <evil_tech> i think i will just unplug the other two drive so i know it installs grub where i want
[06:08] <NemesisD> hi, is there any way to figure out which drive corresponds to which hd# so I can be sure I'm setting up my menu.lst correctly?
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Bad idea
[06:08] <evil_tech> why?
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It's setup correctly
[06:08] <shadowbw> ryancr: it's been awhile since I dealt with that, so things might have changed, but I think that was how I got that to work
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Then it won't see vista - so you wont get it in your list of boot options
[06:08] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It is setup correctly as is, go for it
[06:08] <ryancr> shadowbw: hmm, interesting, ill look into that, thanks, at least it gives me a place to start ;)
[06:09] <evil_tech> the bios will look for the cdrom find nothing then go to the ubuntu drive and run ubuntu. when i dont have that drive in the system it will boot vista
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: also check out VMWARE
[06:09] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: It doesn't matter much about grub b/c he's got a hotswap
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: or if you want to do it how I do it now.....use ssh tunneling
[06:09] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: It does if he ever wants to keep them installed at the same time
[06:09] <makers_mark> does anyone work with osx here?
[06:09] <wibou> Hello everyone.
[06:09] <shadowbw> ryancr: a search on google will tell you everything you need to know about shh tunneling
[06:10] <Cpudan80> oops that was for PurpZeY
[06:10] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I understand, I am just saying, I think that's what he is saying
[06:10] <evil_tech> yes
[06:10] <ryancr> shadowbw: yeah if i was smart enough to setup up the ssh server on my linux box at work thats how I would have done it, but I am stuck just trying to use this rdp to an xp machine for now
[06:10] <evil_tech> i dont want grub to see the vista drive at all
[06:10] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: Oh
[06:10] <Cpudan80> evil_tech: so unplug it like you said
[06:10] <evil_tech> if i want to run vista i will physically remove the ubuntu drive
[06:10] <Cpudan80> and the other one too
[06:10] <nickrud> evil_tech, then you will have to remove the vista, or edit menu.lst after install
[06:10] <PurpZeY> Cpudan80: I've had a similar setup...You use them like drawers
[06:10] <evil_tech> yeah should have done that in the first place i suppose
[06:10] <wibou> I have a very quick question about vanilla kernel recompilation on ubuntu... anyone here have any experience about it? :)
[06:11] <shadowbw> well the ssh server is more secure and easier to use imo
[06:11] <nickrud> evil_tech, it's simple to edit the menu.lst, just delete the vista stanza after the install is complete
[06:11] <shadowbw> ryancr: and there are step-by-step guides for setting up your exact situation
[06:11] <evil_tech> like i said i dont want grub to touch that vista drive
[06:12] <evil_tech> just going to unplug the other drives
[06:12] <nickrud> evil_tech, it won't touch it, it will simply reference it
[06:12] <ryancr> shadowbw: yes i know, its not a problem I can do it tomorrow, but I wanted access to night and I'm not driving back to the office ;)
[06:12] <Cryx> Anyone familiar with php+vpn+ldap to give me a small hint. I have LDAP/VPN server hosted elsewhere, and i need to connect that server from my home. at home i have made small site that uses php to get data into it via vpnclient from LDAP. I have a problem now that server wont allow me to change timeout higher than 90 and my client drops all the time cause of this. I have tought making php script into shell and run it with cron that just open
[06:12] <evil_tech> thanks for the help all
[06:12] <Cpudan80> Cryx: PHP scripts can run from the command line easily
[06:12] <cl10> ;p;
[06:13] <Cpudan80> Cryx: $_GET doesn't work right -- you have to use something else IIRC
[06:13]  * syc_ assalamualaikum wr wb
[06:13] <makers_mark> is there a command in the OS X terminal similar to "apt-get" so that i can get apps without having to go online and manually download them?
[06:13] <wibou> Anyone ever tried to recompile a kernel free of initrd image on ubuntu?
[06:13] <nickrud> makers_mark, try asking on a osx channel
[06:14] <makers_mark> they'yre all sleeping nickrud :)
[06:14] <nickrud> makers_mark, oh. Lazy buggers
[06:15] <makers_mark> i know...51 people on apple and none are answering.they're not even chatting amongst themselves nickrud.
[06:15] <nickrud> makers_mark, you might try searching on ircsearch.com for other apple channels, bound to be one that's active
[06:16] <makers_mark> thanks nickrud
[06:16] <makers_mark> hey nickrud,since i still got you.do you think it's a good idea to switch from ubuntu to SuSE? (btw i'm a linux nubber)
[06:17] <makers_mark> the only issue is that i have trouble running kde on my pc.
[06:17] <kote> makers_mark, youre in an ubuntu channel :)
[06:17] <nickrud> makers_mark, switch? No opinion. Install it on another partition? Sure, check it out
[06:18] <makers_mark> ok.i know it's a shot in the dark,but any clues why kde makes my computer freeze ever 3 minutes? (literally)
[06:18] <makers_mark> and i have no trouble with gnome at all
[06:19] <PurpZeY> makers_mark: ask in #kubuntu perhaps
[06:19] <interceptor> !ru
[06:19] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[06:19]  * nickrud bites his tongue, and passes up a chance to dis kde :)
[06:19] <makers_mark> k,thanks.
[06:19] <makers_mark> nickrud you little sob :P :P
[06:20] <xkarimx> Hye all! May i know how by using SSH i can run Xchat IRC on my Ubuntu? Thanxs
[06:21] <PurpZeY> asked so nicely....wish i had an answer
[06:21] <xkarimx> huhuhuhuhu
[06:21] <PurpZeY> xkarimx: I don't know, but you asked rather politely, and that is uncommon
[06:22] <libqt4> i really stuffed up my wine , tried reinstalling after uninstalling and its giving me a whole load of errors, i was frustrated at the time and manualy deleted the wine files under /home/#user/.wine/
[06:22] <PurpZeY> xkarimx: I imagine someone knows, just not me.
[06:22] <wibou> xkarimx : well just start a command line client? Back in time, b*tchX was the best one I think (replace the * with a i)
[06:22] <xkarimx> huhuhuhu.. thanxs.
[06:22] <wibou> np
[06:23] <xkarimx> hye wibou! did u mean using SSH i can run b*tchx on my ubuntu?
[06:23] <WEW> I tried modprobe -r snd-hda-intel, and it says Module snd_hda_intel is in use. How do I know what is using it?
[06:23] <wibou> xkarimx : depend what you mean by "using ssh". If you mean you want to use IRC while connected to your ubuntu box, then yes.
[06:24] <nickrud> WEW, lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel
[06:24] <wibou> Anyone here could answer some deep questions about kernel recompilation?
[06:24] <shownowon> makers_mark:
[06:25] <nickrud> WEW, sorry, backwards thinking, that shows whats being used by snd-hda-intel
[06:25] <nos> Anyone knows read PDF in terminal?
[06:25] <makers_mark> shownowon ?
[06:26] <shownowon> makers_mark: sorry...mistype
[06:26] <xkarimx> wibou: actually my scenario is like this, i would like to access my Ubuntu from others PC/location by using SSH to open/run any IRC client (b*itch/Xchat/etc) . I also would like to know it is possible via SSH i also can update my Ubuntu?
[06:26] <WEW> nickrud: I got this http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=9296
[06:26] <makers_mark> shownowon STOP PLAYING WITH MY HEAD!!!
[06:26] <nickrud> WEW, I was thinking backwards, that shows what's being used by snd-hda-intel , sorry
[06:27] <makers_mark> shownowon :D
[06:27] <gary4gar> nos, You can convert the pdf to ascii with pdftotext, and view that. But it really depends on what kind of information you want to see in the pdf - pictures or text?
[06:27] <WEW> nickrud: Okay so what else can I do other than restarting GDM
[06:27] <nickrud> WEW, what are you trying to accomplish? removing modules isn't really a recommended thing
[06:27] <nos> thanks, I just want to see the text in the pdf
[06:27] <wibou> xkarimx : yup then b*itchX is what you need... command-line IRC. To update, just use the "usual" command-line dpkg command ( search about "apt-get" on google, you should find good documenttation)
[06:28] <nickrud> WEW, and I don't think restarting gdm wouldn't be enough, to answer your question
[06:28] <WEW> nickrud: My sound is not working in Cedega. Whenever this happens, I stop gdm, remove the module and add it again, and start gdm. But I wanna do it without stopping gdm each time
[06:28] <gary4gar> nos, You can view images and you can view text using svgalib.
[06:28] <wibou> WEW : gdm use the module... removing the module without stoping it would probably crash your computer...
[06:29] <xkarimx> wibou: ok thanxs dude. now i focus searching on b*tch hehehe before this aready "googling" with Xchat but wont help.thanxs
[06:29] <WEW> Oh, okay.
[06:29] <nos> should i install the svgalib-bin?
[06:30] <jeffrey_> HELLO
[06:30] <wibou> WEW : If you are really crazy, i guess you could recompile your kernel to add the "force module removal" option and you could then FORCE the module to be removed but it would end in a disaster 9 time out of ten :P
[06:30] <nickrud> wibou, and you're asking for kernel compile help? ;P
[06:31] <PurpZeY> WEW: Isn't cadega a paid piece of software, don't they support it?
[06:31] <wibou> nickrud : I know how to do, dont worry... but ubuntu seems to have mess up something with their initrd use and so if I try to get rid of this, my kernel will freeze at boot...
[06:32] <gary4gar> nos,google for  pdf text converter
[06:32] <wibou> nickrud : but since I really hate that initrd stuff, I keep trying to get rid of it anyways :P
[06:32] <nrdb> I am trying to run a python app. it is using "gtk.PrintOperation" which module to I need to install to get this ?
[06:32] <nickrud> wibou, basically you need to compile in ext3 support, hard drive support, and your chipset support.
[06:32] <nos> ok,thanks gary4gar
[06:33] <wibou> nickrud : yeah I know... but it wont work. The system just freeze at boot, I don't even get a kernel panic...
[06:33] <mrdigital> how can i tell what chipset my tv tuner is?
[06:33] <gary4gar> mrdigital,check the output of lspci
[06:33] <mrdigital> how do i do that?
[06:33] <cypah> cypa
[06:33] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: lspci
[06:33] <gary4gar> mrdigital, type it in !terminal
[06:33] <wibou> nickrud : I tried (a lot of) various configs, I even tried to include "everything" into the kernel... alwsys the same result : hang at boot.
[06:33] <nickrud> wibou, I did a kernel compile for the first time in years recently (trying to get the slab so I could suspend with fglrx) and forgot them. Compiled them in, and it booted
[06:34] <gary4gar> !terminal | mrdigital
[06:34] <ubotu> mrdigital: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:34] <mrdigital> gary4gar: lspci doesnt see my tv tuner'
[06:34] <gary4gar> mrdigital, post the output
[06:34] <wibou> nickrud : what you mean forgot "them" ? You mean you forgot initrd ?
[06:35] <nickrud> wibou, yes, forgot all about needing to be able to read the disk to boot :)
[06:35] <mrdigital> in pastbin?
[06:35] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: yes
[06:35] <tjmac> GUESS WHAT!!! I got my Linux Ubuntu installed!!!!!
[06:35] <PurpZeY> !paste | mrdigital
[06:35] <ubotu> mrdigital: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:35] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Sweet.
[06:36] <CentHOGG> tjmac: hear anything?
[06:36] <mrdigital> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50574
[06:36] <tjmac> now I have a question (I am a first time user.)
[06:36] <mannytu> :-D
[06:36] <tjmac> I just installed xchat, were do I find the program?
[06:37] <wibou> nickrud : Well... Right now I can't find out what I am missing. There must be "something" tricky about initrd that's new because even with my "old" kernel config from gentoo (I was using it before) that was working, it will hang at boot :/
[06:37] <mrdigital> tjmac: open konsole and type
[06:37] <mrdigital> xchat
[06:37] <tjmac> can I make a shortcut for xchat?
[06:37] <mrdigital> yes
[06:37] <PurpZeY> tjmac: It should also add itself to applications if you used add/remove
[06:37] <mrdigital> i dont know how in gnome
[06:37] <tuntun> tjmac>applications>internet>xchat
[06:37] <tjmac> I used add/remove but cant find the app.
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <tjmac> its not under internet
[06:38] <nrdb> I am using python I need to use "gtk.PrintOperation" does anyone know what package its in ?
[06:38] <mrdigital> any ideas on the lspci?
[06:38] <mannytu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[06:38] <PurpZeY> nrdb: Why not ask in #python?
[06:39] <nrdb> PurpZeY: I am not at my usaul computer and you can only join if you are registered.
[06:39] <nickrud> wibou, well, that's a deep kernel question alright. You've already considered what I brought up
[06:39] <wibou> tjmac : type "whereis xchat" in a terminal then just add a shortcut in gnome for this ( right click on "application" menu then "edit menus")
[06:39] <Christian> Hi@all. Can anybody help with libc6-xen in dapper? What is the right thing to put in sources.list?
[06:39] <PurpZeY> nrdb: I see. Well, I don't know the answer to that q. sowee.
[06:40] <wibou> nickrud : I know... I am kind of lost too. I done at least dozen of try so far, can't get the finger on what I am missing :(
[06:40] <nickrud> tjmac, xchat doesn't come by default with ubuntu, you need to install it under add/remove
[06:40] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: I am not sure which one of these devices the tuner is.
 it doesnt say
[06:40] <Micc> what source do I use to install beryl on 7.10?
[06:40] <mrdigital> its not listed
[06:40] <PurpZeY> mrdigital: I see your sound card, video card, eth, I am not sure which is that card
[06:41] <tjmac> I dont have a edit menus option either
[06:41] <mrdigital> micc: use compvis
[06:41] <PurpZeY> Micc: beryl is not supported....you need compiz and it comes installed by default in gutsy
[06:41] <nickrud> Micc, you don't use beryl with 7.10, its abandoned software. compiz replaced it
[06:41] <tjmac> nickrud I have installed it but canot find the program
[06:41] <wibou> nickrud : right now I tried to mess with initrd so it won't include any module... I will see if this help... I'm considering weird stuff like that "maybe something does expect an initrd after all"
[06:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Just run it from a terminal
[06:41] <wibou> tjmac : what "it"? The gnome menu of the console?
[06:41] <PurpZeY> tjmac: xchat
[06:41] <tjmac> and the terminal command doesnt work either
[06:42] <wibou> **or the console
[06:42] <PurpZeY> tjmac: How did you install it?
[06:42] <nickrud> tjmac, are you sure you installed it?  which xchat would have said something if it was
[06:42] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 [64 bit] All internal devices function, including optical and the system harddisk. But, ONE of the harddisks will not show up in "Computer." What's crazy is, I can SEE the disk with the Hardware Info tool, but not mount it...
[06:42] <tjmac> i used add/remove programs
[06:42] <ryanmf> hey all. mac geek here on my first linux install. bought an hp pavilion pc to run a mythtv based home theatre pc, and apparently the mobo has onboard nvidia video (geforce 7100/nforce 630i) that's allegedly supported by the last few revisions of the nvidia 169.xx drivers, but i can't even get this thing to play nice for enough time to get them installed. any suggestions?
[06:42] <Christian> how can I install libc6-xen in dapper?
[06:42] <Chuckbutu> hello
[06:42] <nickrud> tjmac, ok, applications->accessories->terminal , type    xchat    in there
[06:42] <PurpZeY> ryanmf: why not deal with one issue at a time...that's a lot you laid out there.
[06:42] <tjmac> nickrud I have installed it
[06:43] <wibou> Christian : apt-get install libc6-xen ?
[06:43] <gary4gar> !!nvidia | ryanmf
[06:43] <ubotu> ryanmf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:43] <tjmac> how do I copy paste on here, I am getting an error message
[06:43] <wibou> tjmac : how? source? apt-get? gnome menu thingy?
[06:43] <cypah>  tjmac, I'm new too and i had better luck using system/Synaptic to install and it put xchat in Applications/internet
[06:43] <tjmac> all of the above wibou
[06:43] <nickrud> tjmac, don't paste here, just give us an idea about the error
[06:44] <AdemoS> Any ideas about the harddisk issue?
[06:44] <tjmac> it says that xchat is currently not installed
[06:44] <jhford> anyone know how to get the NVidia proprietary drivers to control fan speed correctly?
[06:44] <tjmac> how is that possibe I am using it right now
[06:44] <nickrud> tjmac, then you didn't install it :)
[06:44] <Christian> thanx. but what is the right thing in sources.list? its openxchange.
[06:44] <ryanmf> gary4gar: thanks. i'll take a look at that and see where it takes me.
[06:44] <wibou> tjmac : "all of the above" ? You have 3 version of xchat or what? Are you sure it does installed correctly in any of those case?
[06:44] <tjmac> but my add/remove says its installed
[06:45] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If add/remove says it's installed you should be able to run it via apps-->internet
[06:45] <nickrud> tjmac, type this in a terminal:   apt-cache policy xchat  , and paste that on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:45] <wibou> jhford : hummm have you tried nvidia-settings tool?
[06:45] <tjmac> the error message also says that I need to enable a component called "universe"
[06:45] <jhford> wibou: yes,  i have tried coolbits and nvclock
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : your GPU is overheating I guess?
[06:46] <nickrud> tjmac, ah!   system->admin->software sources , check the first four items, uncheck the cdrom. Then do the add/remove again
[06:46] <jhford> nope
[06:46] <gary4gar> jhford, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[06:46] <jhford> wibou: it is at 43 degrees
[06:46] <nickrud> !components | tjmac
[06:46] <ubotu> tjmac: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : hehe then why do you mean by "control fan correctly" ? It wakes up too often?
[06:46] <kote> jhford, my windows nvidia drivers dont even control the fan speed
[06:46] <jhford> gary4gar: which heading should i look under?
[06:46] <wibou> jhford : then **what do you mean... sorry tired.
[06:46] <jhford> wibou: it is running at 100%
[06:47] <jhford> all the time
[06:47] <kote> ah mine is stuck at 30%
[06:47] <gary4gar> jhford,  How to monitor CPU, GPU temperatures, fan speeds and voltages (GKrellM)
[06:47] <jhford> wibou: it is so loud i can't think
[06:47] <PurpZeY> jhford: Take out the baseball cards
[06:47] <jhford> ???
[06:47] <kote> lol
[06:47] <CentHOGG> yawn
[06:47] <PurpZeY> jhford: Little joke. . .ignore me
[06:47]  * nickrud chokes
[06:48] <jhford> k
[06:48] <gary4gar> jhford, check this header too,  How to control fan speed (lm-sensors)
[06:48] <tjmac> it still didnt work
[06:48] <PurpZeY> I know someone knew what I was talking about
[06:48] <PurpZeY> tjmac: What error now?
[06:48] <AdemoS> Ubuntu 7.10 [64 bit] All internal devices function, including optical and the system harddisk. But, ONE of the harddisks will not show up in "Computer." What's crazy is, I can SEE the disk with the Hardware Info tool, but not mount it...
[06:48] <wibou> jhford : yeah I can guess so... well honestly if you tried nvidia tools before I don't know... I would take a look at ACPI stuff, just in case there is not a switch you can turn off/on about it, but it just a really wide guess
[06:48] <jhford> i have been told that the drivers do work for other people, specifically those on Gentoo
[06:48] <tjmac> its installed it just doesnt show up under internet
[06:48] <jhford> good idea
[06:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: It can take a minute
[06:49] <Christian> wibou: apt-get install libc6-xen impossible. This is my http://www.knorrc.de/sources.list . Any ideas?
[06:49] <PurpZeY> tjmac: You can try to run it from terminal
[06:49] <wibou> tjmac : if it is installed, then you SHOULD have something when typing "whereis xchat" in console... if you dont, then it's not OR the installation is incomplete
[06:49] <gary4gar> Ademan, check the output of "sudo fisk -l"
[06:50] <tjmac> it just said to enter a command to install teh program
[06:50] <AdemoS> (It's AdemoS) Thanks will do
[06:50] <scguy318> AdemoS: pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[06:50] <wibou> Christian : what do you mean impossible? Any error message?
[06:50] <nickrud> tjmac, you said it installed the first time, so  in that terminal type     apt-cache policy xchat    and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .
[06:50] <jhford> wibou: nothing in acpi or /proc/drivers/nvidia to enable it
[06:50] <tjmac> "unable to locate package xchat"
[06:51] <jhford> using the NV driver it worked fine
[06:51] <Christian> wibou: "libc6-xen could not found" (or so, it's german)
[06:51] <tjmac> is there anyway yalll can connect to my omputer?
[06:51] <AdemoS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50575/
[06:51] <nickrud> tjmac, then you didn't do the     system->admin->software sources   , check the first four items and uncheck the cdrom
[06:51] <osqay> hallo everyone
[06:51] <ToddEDM> how do i register my nickname?
[06:51] <nickrud> !register | ToddEDM
[06:51] <ubotu> ToddEDM: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[06:51] <gary4gar> AdemoS, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:51] <PurpZeY> !register | ToddEDM
[06:51] <wibou> jhford : /proc/acpi ? My laptop have some options to control fan... nothing about the GPU fan but maybe.
[06:52] <jhford> nvm, thanks for the help guys.  Read post 3 here http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/13075-nvidia-linux-driver-169-07-a.html
[06:52] <tjmac> they are all checked cdrom is unchecked
[06:52] <AdemoS> gary4gar, : Yeah I saw that...but, how do I partion a empty disk?
[06:52] <jhford> wibou: yep, i have done that before on my IBM T40, but this isn't an ACPI issue
[06:52] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try gparted
[06:52] <AdemoS> ah yeah..
[06:52] <nickrud> tjmac,   in the terminal, type:   sudo apt-get update   ,  then try the install again
[06:52] <wibou> jhford : still I know that gentoo nvidia drivers are a bit strange... repatched stuff and so, pluss they might be a bit more recent than those in ubuntu if they are using "beta" stuff
[06:52] <jhford> i am not using repo drivers
[06:53] <gary4gar> !gparted | AdemoS
[06:53] <ubotu> AdemoS: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[06:53] <jhford> my card is ONLY supported in 169.07, ubuntu is 100.X
[06:53] <AdemoS> gary4gar:  I've used that to delete bad partions before, but....I don't know how to partion a blank disk
[06:53] <tjmac> ok so it is running a bunch of scripts
[06:53] <jhford> wibou: my card is ONLY supported in 169.07, ubuntu is 100.X
[06:53] <sloanesky> anyone know how to set ubuntu as the primary OS again? I tried to install windows (the install failed) and now I cant boot into ubuntu
[06:53] <tjmac> now it says "done"
[06:53] <Micc> So how do I get the cool window manager like the youtube beryl videos with 7.10? Can I do that with compiz? I have compiz installed, got the cube working, but my window manager still is gnome, looks plain.
[06:53] <nickrud> tjmac, you can do the add/remove, or  type:   sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:53] <gary4gar> AdemoS, ever check the DOCS on the GParted website?
[06:53] <kote> jhford, windows version numbers dont match with linux versions
[06:54] <ToddEDM> !flash
[06:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:54] <Smitius> I'm having trouble install themes that are meant for compiz. Is there a specific menu or application to configure compiz themes?
[06:54] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:54] <jhford> kote: i know, my card is the 8800GTS 512.  It is ONLY supported in 169.07 released Dec 20
[06:54] <tjmac> oh now its installing completely
[06:54] <nickrud> jhford, an 8800?
[06:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Well yeah, and I guess I could check the menus. But I just asked in case you knew off hand which menu to look for, etc.
[06:54] <jhford> nickrud 8800GTS512
[06:55] <wibou> Christian : hmmm strange, we have almost the same repo but I do get lic6-xen in the list... I assume you ran "apt-get update" first?
[06:55] <nickrud> jhford, yes you can't use the ubuntu nvidia driver, you have to get the one from the nvidia site
[06:55] <gary4gar> AdemoS, the utility is easy enough for anyone to use
[06:55] <jhford> nickrud: yep, i have them working, but there seems to be a bug in the fan control
[06:55] <nickrud> jhford, then talk to nvidia ;(
[06:55] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help.
[06:55] <jhford> :( and i had to remove displayconfig-gtk for it to work properly :(
[06:55] <tjmac> now xchat is installed through terminal
[06:55] <jhford> nickrud: yep, i just found that thread while i was in here
[06:56] <tjmac> but its not on the internet tab
[06:56] <Sonja> can you help me share my printer so a windows user in my house can find it on our network?
[06:56] <wibou> Christian : there, if it helps you : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50576/
[06:56] <Christian> wibou: I'm working with aptitude update, aptitude install libc6-xen. aptitude search libc6 | grep xen brings nothing.
[06:56] <nickrud> tjmac, click the menu button a couple of times, if it doesn't show up, type:  killall gnome-panel   , then check again after the panel restarts
[06:56] <jhford> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104713
[06:57] <jhford> for anyone who is interested
[06:57] <jhford> thanks guys
[06:57] <wibou> Christian: it's founds in " http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/universe" here
[06:57] <tjmac> when I do the where is command I get a log string
[06:57] <tjmac> /usr/bin/xchat etc etc.
[06:57] <sloanesky> anyone know how I can fix it so ubuntu will boot automatically? I tried to install windows, and it froze after the first reboot and now when I try to boot up it says boot failed strike f1 to retry or f2 to enter setup
[06:58] <Christian> wibou: oh, it's gusty. It's not possible for dapper? Because it's openxchange, and I don't want upgrade it.
[06:58] <wibou> Ok, last try : Anyone here could answer a very deep question about Kernel recompilation? :)
[06:58] <PurpZeY> !grub | sloanesky
[06:58] <ubotu> sloanesky: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:58] <jhford> i hate closed source drivers :@
[06:59] <wibou> Christian : oh ok... well I really can't say. I guess you might have to upgrade distro but I really don't know for sure now.
[06:59] <nickrud> jhford, heh, if it was the nv driver, you'd be complaining about lazy open source developers ;P
[06:59] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know about dvd playback?
[06:59] <wibou> jhford : nv not working? I know nv sucks, but some people actually use this stuff :P
[06:59] <tjmac> so if the program is now installed and the where is command says its under bin than where do I find that
[06:59] <jhford> wibou, nickrud: i need opengl
[06:59] <bcasava1> Anyone up for tackling a problem between a Matrox G550 versus AGP problem?
[06:59] <nickrud> tjmac, click the menu button a couple of times, if it doesn't show up, type:  killall gnome-panel   , then check again after the panel restarts
[07:00] <nickrud> jhford, just a joke, I'm running the latest ati myself and pray every time I start up
[07:00] <jhford> also displayconfig-gtk really should allow you to select the 'nvidia' driver even if you haven't installed it from repos
[07:00] <tjmac> YAY ITS THERE!!!!!!!!!!
[07:00] <jhford> nickrud: i went through the ATI thing recently
[07:01] <wibou> jhford : hmmm I think nv can do openGL with mesa stuff, but of course, it's like twice the performance you might have with nvidia proprietary stuff
[07:01] <jhford> nickrud, it took 6 months just to have half working 2d with my X1800XT
[07:01] <nickrud> jhford, I don't know how much the 'opening' of the driver had to do with it, but I get good speed on my lowly 200m and suspend now
[07:01] <tjmac> now how do I find if Ubuntu is installed correctly or not.
[07:01] <jhford> i just find that open drivers which are maintained are soo much better than closed ones
[07:01] <jhford> they JustWork(TM)
[07:01] <doyle_> problem; nvidia PX880gt.. works with nv drivers, restricted drivers manager doesn't recognise it. Manually apt-get installing nvidia-glx-new and changing xorg.conf to use nvidia hasn't worked either. suggestions?
[07:02] <tjmac> or better yet, if it is installed or not
[07:02] <adrian__> Question: i am trying to open firefox through an ssh, because that firefox has an addon i seems to be unable to get on my regular firefox,  but it wont seem to work
[07:02] <nickrud> jhford, most of the time, open source Works for Me™
[07:02] <jhford> doyle: just did this myself.  pm me
[07:02] <jhford> haha
[07:02] <doyle_> can't. not logged in
[07:02] <jhford> ya, same, just hardware support is never good
[07:02] <jhford> oh
[07:02] <jhford> join #doylejohn
[07:02] <doyle_> norm,ally zcat here.. apparently I left myself logged in at home
[07:02] <gary4gar> adrian__, i think its don't the corrent place to ask this question, better ask the developer of the addon
[07:03] <Christian> wibou: thanx for 1st, i try it now
[07:03] <wibou> Christian : good luck :)
[07:03] <tjmac> anybody know???
[07:03] <level1> Hi, my apt is not working with me.  I try to sudo apt-get build-dep kmplayer but it E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_commercial_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:03] <wibou> Oh well, need to reboot to test my all new (but potentially not working) kernel, see ya later all.
[07:03] <adrian__> gary4gar, the thing is that i am totaly unable to open firefox or any other program through an ssh
[07:03] <level1> then I try to sudo apt-get upgrade, but it Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:04] <nickrud> tjmac, if you're running xchat after you installed ubuntu, you have ubuntu installed
[07:04] <Disastro> how i can prevent trackerd running?
[07:04] <kote> adrian__, ssh is a shell, you cant run graphical programs
[07:04] <gary4gar> adrian__, can you ssh normally?
[07:04] <Disastro> in xubuntu
[07:04] <nickrud> Disastro, system->prefs->sessions, uncheck tracker
[07:04] <Disastro> and how to change from nautilus to thunar?
[07:04] <nickrud> Disastro, nm :)
[07:04] <tjmac> great thaks for all of your help yall, im going to restart my computer and make sure everything works.
[07:05] <gary4gar> tjmac, whats your problem ?
[07:05] <Disastro> i said xubuntu
[07:05] <adrian__> kote anyways of running a graphical program fro an other maskin?
[07:05] <evil_tech> ok i broke something apparently. grub just sits at: Grub is starting, please wait...
[07:05] <tjmac> i dont have one now
[07:05] <Disastro> where is sessions in xubuntu?
[07:05] <wibou> bye
[07:05] <gary4gar> adrian__, try VNC
[07:05] <kote> adrian__, what he said
[07:05] <adrian__> VNC, what is that?
[07:05] <gary4gar> !vnc | adrian__
[07:05] <ubotu> adrian__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:06] <Disastro> how to chnge from nautilus to thunar
[07:06] <Micc> does vmware for linux have something like parallels for the mac? I mean does it have a way to run windowless?
[07:07] <bcasava1> Going twice: AGP versus Matrox G550 anyone?
[07:07] <gary4gar> Disastro, did you mean change gnome to xfce?
[07:07] <Disastro> i have both
[07:07] <Disastro> but
[07:07] <adrian__> ubotu, it says it is for opening other ubuntu, does it work with redhat (the other comp is redhat)
[07:07] <Disastro> yesterday nautilus was runt by xfce
[07:08] <Disastro> dont know why
[07:08] <tuntun> adrian__: lol!
[07:08] <gary4gar> !ubotu | adrian__,
[07:08] <Disastro> and it took 90% of cpu
[07:08] <ubotu> adrian__,: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:08] <tuntun> adrian__: lol!
[07:08] <gary4gar> adrian__, he is a bot :p
[07:08] <PurpZeY> it's a he?
[07:08] <adrian__> lol
[07:08] <kbdman> hello
[07:08] <kbdman> Thu Jan  3 05:07:56 BRST 2008
[07:08] <Disastro> and then trackerd runt and took 90% too
[07:08] <Disastro> how to disable trackerd?
[07:09] <gary4gar> Disastro, can write your question in single line?
[07:09] <Disastro> how to disable trackerd?
[07:09] <Disastro> thats the question
[07:09]  * MTeck is back
[07:09] <tjmac> Im back with one final question for the night
[07:10] <Disastro> and another question how to change from nautilus tho thunar in ubuntu?
[07:10] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Come back as needed...=)
[07:10] <tjmac> When I boot back into my mac, was is the key that I hold down that lets me choose which operating system I would like to use?
[07:11] <gary4gar> Disastro, check bug 153319
[07:11] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I'm not sure how that works with macs...with windows machines grub creates a bootloader that gives you a choice....I'd guess apple key or tab
[07:11] <PurpZeY> but that's a total guess
[07:11] <gary4gar> !bug #153319
[07:11] <Disastro> does opera and swiftweasel take less cpu than firefox?
[07:12] <Disastro> found it
[07:12] <bcasava1> Maybe the third time's the charm.  Matrox G550, xorg, and UbuntuStudio 7.10.  Using "vesa" driver, everything comes up fine.  Using "mga" driver, I only get a black screen.  DVI output to a Samsung SyncMaster 930B flatpanel.  When using mga, X reports "(EE) MGA(0): [agp] AGP not available
[07:12] <gary4gar> Disastro, this is the bug link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/ +bug/153319
[07:13] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: Sounds like that's the wrong driver
[07:14] <bcasava1> PurpZeY.  Nope, it's the right driver.  "mga" driver works fine under FreeBSD 6.2.  Googling this gets some nonsense about agpgart, but rmmod'ing the entire agp, drm, and mga kernel module stack then reloading does no good.
[07:15] <kbdman> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[07:15] <Disastro> so i need to remove trackerd or kill it every boot?
[07:15] <mypapit> wtf
[07:15] <kbdman> I came from slackware, but I am in love of Ubuntu!
[07:15] <kbdman> Congratulations for your GREAT system!
[07:16] <tjmac> darn mac they make it so difficult
[07:16] <gary4gar> bcasava1, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/MatroxParhelia
[07:16] <Disastro> but i cant remove it :) need to search
[07:16] <nickrud> Disastro, try asking on #xubuntu
[07:16] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Matrox
[07:16] <penos> i just had a thought
[07:16] <penos> if you keep your monitoring activities a secret
[07:16]  * MTeck is back
[07:17] <penos> then you can manipulate how much information to let out
[07:17] <bcasava1> gary4gar: tnx.  I'll give it a try.
[07:17] <penos> and after some data you can predict the response by differing levels of information hiding
[07:17] <Christian> wibou: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_universe_binary-i386_Packages :-(
[07:18] <bcasava1> PurpZeY: Was there something on that page in particular that might be applicable?
[07:18] <PurpZeY> bcasava1: That it's a freeware driver made for your card
[07:19] <Disastro> does opera take less cpu than firefox?
[07:19] <tjmac> does anyone have a link that may talk about mac and linux?
[07:19] <PurpZeY> Just a thought upon some forum searching
[07:19] <PurpZeY> !mac
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <AdemoS> gary4gar: I used Gparted, with a ext2 filesystem. But I wasn't able to get write access when I rebooted, and I wasn't able to name the drive. I'm willing to read up on this, but if you or anyone knows off hand options I need to use, it would be a big help
[07:20] <Disastro> tjmax: what you mean?
[07:20] <adrian__> gary4gar, i tried to install it, but it doesn't seem to work, how do i uninstall it in a good way?
[07:20] <gary4gar> adrian__, you want to remove gparted?
[07:20] <adrian__> i used sudo apt-get install vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:20] <tjmac> disastro: I cant boot back intoUbuntu in my mac, even if I hold teh option key down
[07:20] <adrian__> i wanna remove it
[07:21] <PurpZeY> tjmac: You definitely installed and partitioned and all that, weren't just running liveCD?
[07:21] <Disastro> tjmac: so you have mac and ubuntu dual-boot and you can only boot to mac?
[07:21] <adrian__> and i hate doing an rm, command, because i do not know what references it has
[07:21] <gary4gar> adrian__, its simple , replace install with remove
[07:21]  * tuntun concerned that compiz with lock up the system again
[07:22] <tjmac> yeah disastro, and I did install the full ersion of ubuntu, my hard drive shows it as used
[07:22] <PurpZeY> Disastro: He just can't access his ubuntu partition when booting
[07:22]  * MTeck is back
[07:23] <jhford> what is the program you use to enable all the cool compiz plugins
[07:23] <PurpZeY> jhford: CCSM
[07:23] <Disastro> sry i can't help
[07:23] <jhford> ccsm?
[07:23] <jhford> !ccsm
[07:23] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:23] <Ome> Hello EveryOne :)
[07:23] <Disastro> how can i manage sessions in xubuntu?
[07:23] <jhford> does this go under system-pref/admin or applications?
[07:24] <tjmac> I am oing to try one more time, ill be right back
[07:24] <PurpZeY> jhford: system
[07:24] <jhford> thanks!
[07:24] <gary4gar> adrian__, then use synaptic, which is GUI
[07:24] <gary4gar> !synaptic > adrian__
[07:24] <adrian__> i got it away with sudo apt-get remove vnc-common tightvncserver
[07:24] <adrian__> :)
[07:25] <gary4gar> adrian__,err  then dude what i said?
[07:25] <PurpZeY> gary4gar: yes.
[07:25] <tjmac> yeah my partitions are there and everything but I cant boot into linux
[07:26] <adrian__> thanks for the help, today i learned the the sudo apt -get install also can be used as sudo apt -get remove ?, am i right
[07:26] <gary4gar> PurpZeY, yes for?
[07:26] <PurpZeY> tjmac: There has to be a mac option key that gives you the option to boot on to the ubuntu partition
[07:26] <AdemoS> If I'm using Gparted to partion a new drive, which filesystem would I want for just a basic storage drive? And how might I label it?
[07:26] <PurpZeY> gary4gar: for that he did what you said
[07:26] <adrian__> (if i wanna remove something installed)
[07:26] <Myrtti> IMB: do you have any particular reason to change your nick more often than I do my socks?
[07:27] <tjmac> yeah , I hold it down and the disk drives dont show up like on this link
[07:27] <Myrtti> !away > IMB
[07:27] <user11_011> !apt-cdrom
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <gary4gar> adrian__, for more information check "man apt-get"
[07:27] <adrian__> :)
[07:27] <evgeni> does anybody know how to set screen resolution for the login screen ( I know how to do it once i logged in)?
[07:27] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Check the forums ** or wait until there is a mac guy around...there is something really simple we just don't know
[07:27] <user11_011> does anyone knows how to add remote cdrom by apt-cdrom and include it in sources.list
[07:27] <tuntun> !hardy
[07:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:28] <tuntun> !gutsy
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[07:28] <tjmac> How do I choose the operating system that starts up (boots) my Mac?
[07:28] <tjmac> After running Boot Camp Assistant and installing Microsoft Windows and the Boot Camp Drivers, hold the Option (Alt) key when you start up to switch between Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X. Use the Startup Disk control panel in Windows or Mac OS X Startup Disk preferences to set the default operating system to use each time the computer starts up.
[07:28] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I believe you want grub as your bootloader.
[07:29] <tjmac> How do I load that
[07:29] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I don't want to direct you in the wrong direction..........
[07:29] <musashi> tjmac, sorry to drive you off. i thought you were someone else and was joking around. anyway, i just heard from someone else in the channel that you were looking in #colorado for someone who was using ubuntu on a mac. I was one of two i know of but no expert by any means.
[07:29] <bezibaerchen> hey guys. what is the driver / the tool of choice to read an usb hdd formatted with ext3 under windows xp?
[07:29] <gary4gar> user11_011, insert the cd rom & type "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[07:29] <tjmac> Musashi, did you use boot camp to load Ubunut onto your mac?
[07:29] <level1> Hi, how do I download a single .deb file from the ubuntu repositories without actually adding that repo?
[07:30] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I know w/ windows, windows will eat the boot loader, an there is a fix.
[07:30] <user11_011> gary4gar : its a cdrom on a remote machine!!!
[07:30] <rodolfo> !intel
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <musashi> tjmac, yeah
[07:30] <function1> does esd block out simple alsa output?
[07:30] <tjmac> how is everyon highlighting my name in a respose on here?
[07:30] <gary4gar> user11_011, then you could do it via samba
[07:30] <gary4gar> !samba
[07:30] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[07:30] <PurpZeY> tjmac: autocomplete.
[07:30] <musashi> tjmac, just use their name
[07:31] <tjmac> ok cool
[07:31] <gary4gar> leagris, why you want to do that?
[07:31] <tjmac> musashi: how do I boot into Ubuntu when I turn on my mac?
[07:32] <user11_011> gary4gar: right . i have mounted it on my /media/cdrom/192.168.x.x/...     but i need to make an entry in sources.list so that apt-get recognises it. i tried with deb:cdrom[cdrom_label]/ but didnt work
[07:32] <musashi> hold the ctrl or alt key. i forget which as i almost never use it
[07:32] <ruby> h......
[07:32] <tjmac> see , i do that and nothing happens
[07:32] <ruby> oh.....
[07:33] <tjmac> is there a way that I can check on my hard drive that it is installed>
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac,  hold it when you first start
[07:33] <gary4gar> user11_011,read man apt-cdrom
[07:33] <tjmac> because i went through the install, and it said it installed
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac, did you use boot camp to make the "windows" partition and then install ubuntu?
[07:33] <PurpZeY> tjmac: If you went through the install and all that. . .
[07:33] <tjmac> so I hold down the option key when it first starts
[07:33] <function1> does anyone here use puredata?
[07:33] <musashi> tjmac, one of them. sorry i don't remember which
[07:33] <tjmac> yes I did musashi
[07:33] <AdemoS> ...well, I'll try ext3 instead of ex2, but I can't seem to find a reliable guide for such a simple task
[07:34] <gary4gar> Ademan, is it a new HDD?
[07:34] <musashi> tjmac, then one of those keys should open the boot camp menu and let you select ubuntu (although it's called "windows")
[07:34] <gary4gar> AdemoS,  is it a new HDD?
[07:34] <jhford> how do i add another workspace to gnome, i seem to have forgotten hoe
[07:34] <jhford> *how
[07:34] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I think that's the issue, "windows" is ubuntu
[07:34] <AdemoS> gary4gar: Yes
[07:35] <tjmac> ok so should I hold down the key and keep it pressed before I turn on the computer, or right after?
[07:35] <gary4gar> AdemoS, which company?
[07:35] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Seagate
[07:35] <musashi> tjmac, right after but hold until you see the menu
[07:36] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try this perhaps: http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=DiscWizard&vgnextoid=d9fd4a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD
[07:36] <tjmac> okay im going to give it a try, will be right back
[07:36] <PurpZeY> musashi: I don't think he caught the "windows" is ubuntu bit
[07:36] <tuntun> user11_011: i'm assuming you've tried synaptic>settings>repositories>third-party-software>add
[07:37] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Only has Windows and Mac, I was hoping for a Linux guide because I'm trying to get away from both of those platforms
[07:37] <musashi> PurpZeY, no. maybe not. we'll see
[07:37] <gary4gar> Ademan, see if there a bootable tool
[07:38] <AdemoS> gary4gar, well, gparted works fine, I just don't know which filesystem to use for basic storage
[07:38] <tjmac> nope didnt happe
[07:38] <tjmac> n
[07:38] <gary4gar> AdemoS, ext3?
[07:38] <user11_011> tuntun: not at all . it still expects a disk on local machine. i did a smbmount onto /media/cdrom and got it but even apt-cdrom not able to add it
[07:38] <musashi> tjmac, did anything happen? which key did you use
[07:38] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Trying that now
[07:38] <tjmac> my manual for boot camp says to use option, but nothing happened
[07:38] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Did you try selecting "windows"?
[07:39] <tjmac> it didnt even come up as an option
[07:39] <PurpZeY> tjmac: try alt, try ctrl
[07:39] <gary4gar> AdemoS, infact ext2+ journals support = ext3
[07:39] <musashi> tjmac, so you held the "right" button for a long time and OSX just booted?
[07:40] <AdemoS> gary4gar, it finished formating to ext3, but now it's no longer listed in Computer. Should I reboot first?
[07:40] <musashi> tjmac, yeah, i just don't remember which one. i was always trying several before i got it. didn't use it enough to remember.
[07:40] <tuntun> user11_011: well you can make an iso of your the repos with APTonCD and transfer it to the other computer and then use APTonCD again to add it as a source
[07:40] <tjmac> yup thats what happened
[07:40] <gary4gar> Ademan, do a sudo moun -a
[07:40] <gary4gar> Ademan, do a sudo mount -a
[07:40] <musashi> tjmac, are you sure you are using the "correct" button? try them all. one of 'em should work.
[07:41] <tjmac> ill try be right back
[07:41] <AdemoS> gary4gar, hmm no response after using that command
[07:41] <fwaokda> anyone here have a Amazon Kindle?
[07:42] <gary4gar> Ademan, post the output of fdisk -l
[07:42] <user11_011> tuntun: its like beating around the bush!!. well i have a cdrom which is in a machine next to me . i need an entry which looks there. i think it should not be such difficult to again make a iso and use it.
[07:42] <aram> can any one help with printer?
[07:43] <AdemoS> gary4gar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50577/
[07:44] <gary4gar> AdemoS, its done, now you just need to put its entry in /etc/fstab
[07:44] <tuntun> user11_011: "its like beating around the bush!!". Yeah, it can be like that sometimes :P
[07:44] <aram> can any one help with printer?
[07:44] <PurpZeY> !anyone | aram
[07:44] <ubotu> aram: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:44] <AdemoS> gary4gar, sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "put its entry in"
[07:44] <doyle_> jhford, Woot!!! Got it!!!
[07:45] <jhford> doyle_ Awesome, did you remove that package i was telling you about?
[07:45] <doyle_> yep
[07:45] <gary4gar> Ademan, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:45] <jhford> awesome news!
[07:45] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thanks
[07:45] <doyle_> will make a backup of the working xorg.conf just in case
[07:45] <jhford> good call
[07:46] <doyle_> doing 200m of updates now.. hopefully that won't break anything
[07:46] <user11_011> tuntun: lets take a simple example of a line in sources.list . "deb cdrom:[ubuntu_cd_label]  gutsy main" i just need a remote cdrom . is there no way i can point to it
[07:46] <AdemoS> gary4gar, command inputed, gedit open. Now where do I get the entry, and where do I put it?
[07:47] <gary4gar> Ademan, you can use UUID
[07:47] <AdemoS> gary4gar, oooh I think I figured it out
[07:47] <gary4gar> !UUID
[07:47] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:48] <AdemoS> gary4gar, Hmm, guess I was wrong. I see the UUID in the config file, but I don't know where to get the new UUID from
[07:48] <gary4gar> Ademan,  sudo blkid
[07:49] <tuntun> user11_011: I'm no expert with the repos, but some problems should and shouldn't be persued thru irc -- i would be confidant that you would get the answer with a bit, or alot, of googling, because your problem is relatively esoteric.
[07:49] <Christian> !torrents
[07:49] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[07:50] <AdemoS> gary4gar, do I need any other info? the other two entries (hard disk and optical) have more in that file
[07:52] <gary4gar> Ademan, it should look like
[07:52] <gary4gar> # /dev/sda7
[07:52] <gary4gar> UUID=7b52584b-f68b-4902-b8cd-f6628e8de078 /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[07:52] <gary4gar> AdemoS, just change the UUID & mount point
[07:53] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thanks, though my UUID output was different, I'll use yours. Mount point?
[07:53] <makuseru> what will open a .xls file?
[07:53] <gary4gar> Ademan, no, use the UUID given by your system,
[07:54] <Myrtti> nalioth: gnumeric might, openoffice calc most definitely will
[07:54]  * tuntun senses trouble with words like "my UUID output was different, I'll use yours"
[07:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar, my system game me
[07:54] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[07:54] <AdemoS> *gave
[07:54] <gary4gar> Ademan, mount point = the location where you want the drive to me, like /media/newhdd
[07:54] <Myrtti> erm
[07:54] <AdemoS> gary4gar, okay, how do I set that up?
[07:54] <Myrtti> makuseru: gnumeric, openoffice calc
[07:55] <Myrtti> nalioth: nvm
[07:55] <fotoflo> hmm ive just installed ubuntu but i cant use elm or pine
[07:55] <fotoflo> apt-get cant install them either
[07:55] <gary4gar> Ademan, create a folder, like mkdir /media/<anyname>
[07:55] <Myrtti> fotoflo: pine isn't floss, so it's not installable by default
[07:55] <musashi> AdemoS, sorry to but in, but make sure you use the UUID for YOUR system. not someone elses. it's a unique identifier.
[07:56] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know how to get ubuntu gibbon to recognize dvds?
[07:56] <Myrtti> !dvd | mkquist
[07:56] <ubotu> mkquist: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:56] <mkquist> having a prob with that...  already installed all from medibuntu...
[07:56] <tuntun> gary4gar: you may like to direct AdemoS to http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html if it wouldbe of assistance.
[07:56] <AdemoS> musashi, not at all, I welcome all help. Does the UUID  look right?
[07:56] <dman> how painful is a 7.04 to 7.10 upgrade?
[07:56] <Novalty> Ok, im confused. I have installed KDE so that my ubuntu distro can access my windows pc. And that works great. And when i try to access the ubuntu distro from my windows pc, i get a logon screen with username and password. I was guessing this would be for ubuntu, so i tried that, and it didnt work. Any help?
[07:56] <dman> using the server method
[07:57] <Myrtti> dman: fully depends on what you've done between installing 7.04 and now
[07:57] <musashi> AdemoS, i missed it but if it's an ugly long number then it's probably right
[07:57] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[07:57] <Myrtti> dman: and how you're going to do your update
[07:57] <musashi> AdemoS, yeah, like that
[07:57] <dman> Myrtti: i was thinking with update-manager-core
[07:58] <AdemoS> musashi, thanks
[07:58] <mkquist> musashi: ty ill check it again
[07:58] <musashi> AdemoS, sure thing. i'm not sure what you want to do but hope it helps
[07:59] <mkquist> Myrtti: sry meant for u.. ty ill check it again
[07:59] <musashi> mkquist, try what?
[07:59] <Myrtti> musashi: nvm
[07:59] <musashi> mkquist, oh i see
[07:59] <gary4gar> AdemoS, put this in fstab "UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b /media/downloads ext3    defaults        0       2"
[07:59] <Myrtti> ;-)
[08:00] <AdemoS> gary4gar, thank you, trying now
[08:00] <gary4gar> Ademan, also do this, sudo mkdir /media/downloads
[08:01] <AdemoS> gary4gar, how do I get the terminal to the other disk?
[08:02] <gary4gar> Ademan, i didn't get you?
[08:02] <gary4gar> Ademan, did you try sudo moint -a?
[08:02] <AdemoS> gary4gar, sorry nevermind about that
[08:02] <AdemoS> gary4gar, yes, it said
[08:02] <gary4gar> said what?
[08:03] <AdemoS> trying to paste now
[08:04] <AdemoS> got it
[08:04] <AdemoS> mount: special device UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b does not exist
[08:06] <gary4gar> Ademan, give the output of sudo blkid
[08:07] <AdemoS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50579/
[08:07] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:08] <rake> When I do apt-get install eclipse   I get a "cannot find package eclipse" even though ubuntuguide says exactly that command
[08:08] <gary4gar> AdemoS, try sudo mount -t ext3  /dev/sdb1 /media/downloads
[08:09] <AdemoS> gary4gar, tried, no result, just went to the next line
[08:09] <gary4gar> Ademan, cool, now check /media/downloads
[08:09] <AdemoS> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy
[08:09] <AdemoS> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/storage
[08:09] <tuntun> rake: why not try with a gui?
[08:10] <tuntun> rake: ie synaptic
[08:10] <AdemoS> (I used storage instead of downloads)
[08:10] <rake> tuntun: because CLI is supposed to be easier.
[08:10] <rake> faster.
[08:11] <gary4gar> AdemoS, open the storage folder
[08:11] <AdemoS> well I tried to drag a shortcut into that folder media/storage and said "no permission"
[08:11] <underwatercow> does ubuntu come with an archiver that supports multipart rar files?
[08:11] <gary4gar> AdemoS, chmod 755 /media/storage
[08:11] <tuntun> rake: you should try synaptic, its very easy
[08:11] <ahaswell> rake: is eclipse in your package list?  Check apt-cache search eclipse to find out
[08:11] <Slart> underwatercow: you can use rar
[08:12] <ahaswell> tuntun: CLI should be encouraged!
[08:12] <underwatercow> Slart: does that have GUI frontend?
[08:12] <Slart> underwatercow: you'll have to install rar.. or was it unrar first..
[08:12] <gary4gar> underwatercow, install unrar
[08:12] <Slart> underwatercow: file-roller uses rar automagically
[08:12] <rake> tuntun: I'm sure of that, I just don't want to have to rely on a GUI to install an application (sorry I come from portage)
[08:12] <underwatercow> gary4gar, Slart: thanks
[08:12] <Slart> you're welcome, underwatercow
[08:13] <gary4gar> :)
[08:13] <scguy318> rake: what's up?
[08:13] <tuntun> rake: no, thats, dogma. CLI will always have its role.
[08:15] <rake> scguy318: ?
[08:15] <AdemoS> gary4gar, used it with sudo, folder still has no permission ---- also I don't see the disk in Computer
[08:15] <scguy318> rake: what were you asking about?
[08:15] <gary4gar> AdemoS, first you need you put its entry in etc/fstab
[08:16] <AdemoS> gary4gar, I thought I did...will double check
[08:16] <rake> scguy318: I can't seem to find eclipse using apt-get
[08:16] <Sonja> can you help me share my printer so a windows user in my house can find it on our network?
[08:16] <AdemoS> gary4gar, yeah it's there
[08:17] <georgie> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[08:17] <AdemoS> gary4gar, and saved
[08:17] <scguy318> rake: your universe repo enabled?
[08:17] <scguy318> !ops | georgie
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[08:17] <gary4gar> AdemoS, when you do that check with mount -a, if it gives any errors , then you haven't done it corrently
[08:17] <AdemoS> gary4gar, okay trying that
[08:17] <scguy318> oh, already gone
[08:17] <scguy318> thanks nalioth
[08:17] <WEW> I installed 7zip from Add/remove programs. How do I run it?
[08:17] <AdemoS> mount: special device UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b does not exist
[08:17] <AdemoS> what does that mean?
[08:17] <rake> scguy318: How would I check? (sorry, I come from another distro)
[08:17] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:18] <AdemoS> it's the correct UUID from blkid
[08:18] <scguy318> rake: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file you want to look in
[08:18] <gary4gar> AdemoS, you used wrong uuid
[08:18] <AdemoS> hmm
[08:18] <ehc> is there a command that will allow me to send a message to a mac computer on my LAN
[08:18] <scguy318> rake: see !source-o-matic for regeneration
[08:18] <norv> WEW: I believe it's p7zip
[08:18] <ahaswell> rake: do you have the universe repository active?
[08:18] <unikon>  Is there any way  to stop unknown tor connections  on my pc
[08:18] <WEW> norv: i typed p7zip in terminal and it says it's not installed. But in add/remove program, it says installed
[08:19] <gary4gar> Ademan, ok forget UUID, try /dev/sdb1 in place of it
[08:19] <scguy318> rake: after editing your sources, sudo apt-get update
[08:19] <rake> scguy318: what am I looking for in that file?
[08:19] <norv> WEW: hmm, perhaps that's only the library.. 7zip GUI version doesn't exist for linux
[08:19] <scguy318> rake: you probably want to uncomment a deb line for universe
[08:19] <tuntun> whats the best way to backup ones firefox profile?
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: well, the *lines for universe
[08:20] <scguy318> !info eclipse
[08:20] <rake> scguy318: looks like I'm using the two restricted lines right now
[08:20] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-3ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 412 kB
[08:20] <gary4gar> tuntun, just save the ~.firefox dir
[08:20] <rake> could that be the problem?
[08:20] <ahaswell> tuntun: tar up your .firefox directory I suppose
[08:20] <Gate_Laptop> tuntun: zip up the .mozilla folder in your home directory
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: uncomment the lines for universe
[08:20] <rake> scguy318: should I comment the two restricted ones as well?
[08:20] <AdemoS> I have that there # /dev/sdb1
[08:20] <AdemoS> UUID="82921fe9-2225-4540-a36a-61d1c350d17b" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[08:20] <scguy318> rake: don't need to
[08:21] <AdemoS> uncomment it?
[08:21] <tuntun> gary4g arahaswell Gate_Laptop: the verdict is unanimous! :)
[08:21] <gary4gar> Ademan, post your /etc/fstab file please
[08:21] <norv> WEW: sudo aptitude install p7zip.. I believe that's just the extractor though
[08:22] <Gate_Laptop> tuntun: the verdict is back up the folder :) in mine it is .mozilla, but it might be different on different versions
[08:22] <skwi> hello
[08:22] <norv> WEW: err, p7zip-full.. that has everything
[08:22] <Gate_Laptop> hi
[08:23] <skwi> i search a tools like inotofy/dnotify to know when a software/script is execute in a directory
[08:23] <WEW> norv it has no GUI?
[08:23] <tuntun> gary4gar: curios: why are you calling AdemoS Ademan?
[08:23] <rake> scguy318: E: Couldn't find package eclipse           =\   This is after the apt-get update
[08:23] <CrackOrcad> I wrote a SMTP Server , and I wanna run it as Background Process for Ubuntu Server like apache and other server component , what i have to do ?
[08:24] <scguy318> !source-o-matic | rake
[08:24] <ubotu> rake: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:24] <scguy318> rake: try doing that then sudo apt-get update again of course
[08:24] <tuntun> rake: have you enabled the universe/multiverse repos (if applicable)
[08:24] <tuntun> gary4gar: curios: why are you calling AdemoS Ademan?
[08:24] <WEW> Other than Archive Manager, what else I can use to unrar
[08:24] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: if you just need to run a process long term in the background you can use the "nohup" command
[08:25] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop thanks fo ryour help
[08:25] <MartinW> What joysticks work well with Linux?
[08:25] <skwi> i search a tools like inotofy/dnotify to know when a software/script is execute in a directory || when i use dnotify -A ... if i do sh script.sh everything is allright count++ , but when i use ./script.sh or script.sh i have count+=3
[08:25] <skwi> (( -A is when we want know access on file ))
[08:26] <rake> scguy318: Aha, no you were right, I uncommented the universal security lines at the very end, wrong thing. It's working now that I uncommented the right thing.
[08:26] <rake> scguy318: so what's the idea behind restricting certain software from users? To keep the source lists smaller?
[08:26] <norv> WEW: no, some archiver might have a gui and 7zip support but I doubt it. there /is/ a 7zip ioslave, but that requires KDE and Konqueror
[08:27] <erb_> When I try to wget some URLs (like http://google.com), it doesn't download the images, etc - it only downloads the html. I am using the command: 'wget -r 1 -p -nH -nd -Ptest "http://google.com"'. Here is my output: http://pastebin.com/d2c221032
[08:27] <WEW> norv I need something for gnome
[08:28] <Gate_Laptop> erb_: wget is a simple downloader, only getting the file you ask for, not interpreting the HTML and looking for images like a web browser
[08:29] <LuCypher> Hi
[08:29] <LuCypher> I've installed and started firestarter, now I have a lot of messages in dmesg and /var/log/messages
[08:30] <norv> WEW: if you must have a GUI tool, there is PeaZip (google it, it's not in repository)
[08:30] <AdemoS> gary4gar, says I should reboot
[08:30] <AdemoS> in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907715&postcount=3
[08:30] <LuCypher> how can I have a "quiet" mode?
[08:30] <WEW> norv okay, thanks :)
[08:30] <user11_011> my sources.list looks only for i386 packages (i have a generic installed on 64 bit amd). Now i need to install a 64 bit kernel for installing a vmware server .how do i accomplish that.
[08:30] <nickrud> WEW, I think file-roller supports zip; anyway xarchive does , if you have p7zip-fill installed iirc
[08:31] <WEW> nickrud I need for .rar files, not .zip
[08:31] <nickrud> WEW, er, that was 7zip with file-roller
[08:31] <WEW> okay
[08:31] <LuCypher> user11_011 : do you have linux-image-generic?
[08:31] <WEW> I'll try that too
[08:31] <user11_011> LuCypher: yes
[08:31] <Gate_Laptop> erb_: hm, I didn't know about the -r option. maybe try dropping the -nH?
[08:31] <norv> WEW: oh, i thought you like needed 7zip for 7zip.. heh
[08:31] <nickrud> WEW, then install unrar , file-roller will use it also
[08:31] <LuCypher> I think is enough for you
[08:32] <WEW> norv: No, i searched for rar in add/remove programs, and 7zip showed up
[08:32] <LuCypher> How can I set iptables to quiet mode?
[08:32] <dman> if im using 7.04 can i use 7.10 in my apt sources and just upgrade some packages?
[08:32] <nickrud> WEW, you should probably explore system->admin->synaptic , it references more software than add/remove
[08:33] <AdemoS> trying a reboot now
[08:33] <AmbienNOD> is there a way in the konsole to output some statistics on sent and recieved data over the network
[08:33] <nickrud> dman, not recommended or easy to limit to 'just a few'
[08:33] <dman> AmbienNOD: iptraf
[08:33] <makuseru> is there any way to do desktop sharing between a computer with ubuntu and osx?
[08:33] <WEW> nickrud it says I have file-roller already installed..
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, install unrar , then doubleclick an rar file
[08:34] <rkj> Hey quick question: If I have an ipod that shows up in Nautilus in 'Places' as IPOD, what's the command line to unmount it? I tried just "umount IPOD" and got an error "IPOD is not mounter (according to mtab)"
[08:34] <WEW> nickrud: Okay, that's archive manager.. I need something else. It shows an error in some rar files
[08:34] <th0r> AmbienNOD that information is available through snmp, but it is not a simple process
[08:34] <Jowi> makuseru, VNC is the standard way
[08:34] <Jowi> !vnc | makuseru
[08:34] <ubotu> makuseru: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:34] <Smegzo1> My entire computer (ubuntu 64) keeps freezing up solid (hard reboot required) when I try to copy 8Gb of files from my file server to the pc that freezes.  The network share I am copying from is an nfs share.  It's done it twice in a row and both times it did it at 36% copied.  What could be causing this?
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, have you installed unrar yet?
[08:34] <WEW> nickrud yes
[08:34] <nickrud> WEW, ah, then try the p7zip-full
[08:35] <nickrud> WEW, or   rar e <file>
[08:35] <CrackOrcad> if I execute an app with nohup command , after servers' restart  that would run?
[08:35] <user11_011> i tried installing vmware ( 64 bit ) on my generic gutsy but when i type "vmware" it says to type man vmware for more information.
[08:35] <WEW> nickrud they are .r01 .r02 .r03 etc
[08:36] <norv> WEW: oh, partials
[08:36] <nickrud> user11_011, try adding deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner to /etc/apt/sources.list , then installing vmware from the repos.
[08:36] <WEW> yeah, though normally they work in archive manager, some files don't
[08:36] <Jowi> WEW, you need the nonfree unrar and then extract with "unrar x file.rar"
[08:36] <rkj> It's a really easy question for somebody who knows what they're doing.
[08:37] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: no, you would need to add a boot script for it to do that
[08:37] <user11_011> nickrud: i will try it
[08:37] <user11_011> thnx
[08:37] <interceptor> !ru
[08:37] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[08:37] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop can you give me an script for that?
[08:37] <th0r> rkj umount /media/IPOD
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: the easiest way to do it is to add the command to rc.local
[08:38] <th0r> rkj you need to sudo it or run it as root
[08:38] <CrackOrcad> is this what apache and some other application does?
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: do "sudo gedit /etc/rc.local"
[08:38] <rkj> th0r thanks for the ubuntu! I feel more human already.
[08:38] <AmbienNOD> do they make a ubuntu dvd?
[08:38] <Gate_Laptop> no, apache does it in the proper way, but that is more complex and I would have to look it up
[08:39] <Gate_Laptop> rc.local is a script that gets run when the system finishes booting
[08:39] <Conny> Hello.
[08:39] <gpm> hi
[08:40] <_mug> morning
[08:40] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: what apache does is adds itself to the boot levels (/etc/rc0 [...]  /etc/rc6) and a starter script in /etc/init.d/
[08:40] <keram> anyone know what the designated values of the d_type member of struct dirent are?
[08:40] <Conny> Are there differences of "makefile" in ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:41] <Conny> I never made a "makefile" operation of a sourcecode.
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> Conny:  no
[08:41] <norv> Conny: all "Makefile"s are run by make so no
[08:41] <CrackOrcad> gate_laptop so make such application is so complicated:D
[08:41] <_mug> gutsy has a folder called "public" ("öffentlich" in german, i hope i translated it correctly) in each homedir. what is it for? is it automaticcaly shared if sambe or nfs is installed? or for www?
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: not neccecarily, but I have only done it once, long ago
[08:41] <CrackOrcad> that is so easy in windows
[08:41] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: I am trying to look up how to do it now, but like I said, rc.local is the easy way to remember
[08:42] <Conny> ok
[08:42] <imaginator> keram: see the dirent.h header file.  they all have a DT_ prefix
[08:42] <imaginator> oops too late
[08:42] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: if you don't mind wasting a server's resources with a GUI you can make alot of things into buttons :)
[08:42] <th0r> _mug if you are talking about public_html it is the default directory for the website www.hostname/username
[08:43] <CrackOrcad> :)) ha haha , when sessions are close no GUI is run
[08:43] <Smegzo1> Does anyone know what might cause a simple network file copy to lock up the entire pc?
[08:43] <AmbienNOD> i will not ever upgrade or go back to windows, you know it even defrags in the background now
[08:43] <AmbienNOD> how annoying is that
[08:43] <imaginator> Smegzo1: most likely a bad driver, or a broken file system (that is full)
[08:44] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: the boot levels route adds alot of power, since the kernel can be told to start different ways it picks which runlevel to execute
[08:44] <imaginator> Smegzo1: or bad hardware
[08:44] <ahaswell> AmbienNOD: that's the beauty of linux - you can choose what happens and when :)
[08:44] <Gate_Laptop> so if a computer is booted into rescue (single user mode) it won't start something like apache or some such
[08:44] <Smegzo1> 8.5gig free and 65gig free.  probably not full then
[08:44] <norv> Well, ext3 defragments while live, right?
[08:44] <AmbienNOD> think of this you a buy a high speed computer and goto play a game and the dam thing stalls, you have to goto services and shutdown half of the 150 services that are running, now you think a kid is going to know how to do that?
[08:44] <CrackOrcad> you code set those stuff in windows aswell
[08:44] <CrackOrcad> code = can
[08:45] <Smegzo1> hmm..  well its never done this before today and all the hardware is new (1 month old) though that doesn't mean it can't be bad.
[08:45] <imaginator> Smegzo1: do you see any messages in your dmesg?
[08:45] <Jowi> norv, ext3 does not need to defrag
[08:45] <Sonja> _mug there is also #ubuntu-de
[08:45] <AmbienNOD> only think that looks different anyway is the start button is round
[08:45] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: I am not suprised in the least, it just makes sense :)
[08:45] <Smegzo1> haven't looked.  i'm an ex-windows user so i might need to be told where to look.
[08:46] <CrackOrcad> whatever
[08:46] <imaginator> norv: ext3 has better algorithms than say NTFS, so it coallesces disk blocks automatically when possible at the cost of some write speed.  NTFS is much lazier about it.
[08:46] <AmbienNOD> people are starting to like mac anyway too and after this i definitly believe people will be using mac and linux more often
[08:47] <Conny> In what folder should I "make" files?
[08:47] <Gate_Laptop> CrackOrcad: you may find this informative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Runlevels
[08:47] <scguy318> rake: a bit late but to restrict the sorts of software a user wants
[08:47] <AmbienNOD> micosoft should just get out of the os market and just make microsoft office products.
[08:47] <th0r> Conny the folder that contains the Makefile
[08:47] <CrackOrcad> ambienNod not most of peoples (94%) using windows
[08:47] <scguy318> AmbienNOD: not even that :P
[08:47] <Pie-rat2> anyone have any information on the G15 keyboard and available apps for its LCD?
[08:47] <CrackOrcad> Gate_laptop thanks for your info
[08:48] <Conny> th0r: ok, then I check the makefile out.
[08:48] <Jowi> !compile | Conny
[08:48] <ubotu> Conny: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[08:48] <gfg> sexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[08:48] <scguy318> rake: a user may not be interested in proprietary or universe stuff, just stuff from main
[08:48] <scguy318> gfg: you won't find that here
[08:48] <Conny> Jowi, ubotu , th0r: Thx :) :
[08:48] <Learning-Ubuntu> I just downloaded all updates through update manager. how do I know if they got applied to my system ?
[08:48] <scguy318> Learning-Ubuntu: because reloading the update list would not show those updates
[08:49] <scguy318> Learning-Ubuntu: therefore they were installed
[08:49] <CrackOrcad> Learning-ubuntu just come back to vista :D vista would show you how !lol
[08:49] <AdemoS> Guys, I was able to successfully mount a new drive, but I can't get permission on it
[08:49]  * nickrud thinks it should be cracked cad , if CrackOrcad is serious :)
[08:49] <AdemoS> anything I try drag in says "no permission"
[08:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> scguy318,  thanks :)
[08:50] <CrackOrcad> Ademos comeback to vista :D vista doesn't have these problems:D
[08:50] <Microsoft-Fans> there we go
[08:51] <Learning-Ubuntu> CrackOrcad, Vista for some odd reason doesnt work on my system and I care less to troubleshoot it since i can get the same things I do on Vista in Ubuntu anyway.
[08:51] <AdemoS> Microsoft-Fans, as much as that's flame bait, I'll reply. Vista does not have those problems, it has a wide variety of it's own though. I'm much happier learning Linux then dealing with Microsoft's DRM
[08:51] <th0r> please don't feed the trolls
[08:51] <Gate_Laptop> Microsoft-Fans: but in the process of teaching you, you encounter 13 security warnings, 5 generic errors and 3 crashes
[08:51] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: Hear hear!
[08:51] <Microsoft-Fans> ha ha ha
[08:52] <Microsoft-Fans> come on what do you wanna do with PHP - MySLQ and apache! on linux
[08:52] <norv> Virtually all my linux crashes were graphics card induced, and for some crazy reason Intel seems to have the least problems
[08:52] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, you can see me! Do you know how to fix permissions on a new drive?
[08:52]  * Gate_Laptop apologizes for taking the bait
[08:52] <th0r> you guys should have known better
[08:52] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: what kind of permissions?
[08:52] <Microsoft-Fans> just take a look at some Microsoft products such as .NET  and ....
[08:53] <th0r> here we go
[08:53] <ljsmithx> Hello all AGAIN
[08:53] <Gate_Laptop> .NET is better known to me as .NOT Microsoft-Fans
[08:53] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, followed these steps (but made a ext3 parition) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907715&postcount=3
[08:53] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, now stuck on the last step, after reboot, can't write to drive
[08:53] <Gate_Laptop> although, I know some very intense OSS advocates who defend .NET :) I just dislike it
[08:53] <ljsmithx> When I try to record sound from my mic I get a VERY low sound level, how should I fix this?
[08:53] <th0r> AdemoS they are set in fstab normally, but for usb drives I am not sure where they are stored.
[08:53] <Microsoft-Fans> haha yeah that is why novell wrote an edition of its framework for linux (mono)
[08:53] <norv> And Java == NyQuill
[08:54] <AdemoS> th0r, it's a standard sata drive, not USB
[08:54] <Gate_Laptop> hm, just a moment let me read AdemoS
[08:54] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, thanks
[08:54] <imaginator> ljsmithx: try installing alsamixergui and enable the microphone boost.
[08:54] <steven_> jsmithx turn on mic boost
[08:54] <th0r> AdemoS then it is in fstab
[08:54] <ljsmithx> sudo apt-get install alsamixergui?
[08:54] <norv> soDarnVerboseMethodAndClassNames
[08:54] <th0r> AdemoS in fact, it looks like usb drives (usbfs) is in there too
[08:55] <steven_> alsamixer has a gui?
[08:55] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:55] <ljsmithx> hello
[08:55] <norv> .NET's api is quite lengthy as well
[08:55] <nrober> what does xorg do?
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: do me a favor? "sudo ls -lah /media/
[08:55] <Sp4rKy> is there people using package.medibuntu.org ?
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> bah, no need for sudo
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> ignore that part
[08:55] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: what is the line for /media/DATA
[08:56] <th0r> AdemoS you should see a line for the drive (/dev/sdb1, sdc2, whatever), and the write permissions are determined by the <options>
[08:56] <Microsoft-Fans> norv what do you mean by lengthy
[08:56] <scguy318> #ubuntu-offtopic guys?
[08:56] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, http://pastebin.com/m5d8cfb4c
[08:56] <scguy318> I don't think this is the place to be discussing the merits of .NET
[08:56] <AmbienNOD> the benefits of linux for me are vast, doesent crash as often, terrific managment of memory and processor, no worry about viruses, the installer unified, i dont have to keep install one thing after the other, (next, next, i agree, next, etc) update all my software with oneclick, its legal, little fragmentation, faster updates, and i forgot to mention its free
[08:56] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, I used /media/storage instead
[08:56] <norv> Microsoft-Fans: verbose class/method names
[08:56] <crazy6> ok, so I just installed a new nvidia card in my desktop, and X doesn't start... what's the "right" way to fix this?
[08:56] <ljsmithx> ok
[08:57] <ljsmithx> alsamixergui is installed, how do I use it?
[08:57] <scguy318> crazy6: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:57] <AmbienNOD> plus look at these live cds thats prettty cool now
[08:57] <ljsmithx> don't worry! I found it
[08:57] <GenDZ> hi is there an open source voice chat software to install in ubuntu??
[08:57] <MicrosoftvsLinux> here we go:D
[08:57] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: did you follow those directions exactly?
[08:57] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, yes, the drive appears on my desktop as they said
[08:57] <scguy318> GenDZ: Ekiga?
[08:57] <AdemoS> but I'm missing permissioons
[08:57] <scguy318> GenDZ: aMSN, Kopete
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> GenDZ yes: Ekiga, comes with Ubuntu by default
[08:58] <scguy318> GenDZ: the latter two are IM clients that support voice
[08:58] <AdemoS> th0r> AdemoS you should see a line for the drive (/dev/sdb1, sdc2, whatever), and the write permissions are determined by the <options> <------ What do I insert for options?
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> hm....
[08:58] <ljsmithx> I can't find the mic boost option... where isit?
[08:58] <GenDZ> no i wanna a ssoft that support chat rooms
[08:58] <Sp4rKy> do people using packages.medibuntu.org can apt-get update and let me know if they get a Hash Sum Error from packages.medibuntu.org please ?
[08:58] <Gate_Laptop> well, from those instructions you would have a folder /media/DATA and you don't have one, AdemoS
[08:59] <Gate_Laptop> but we can make this work anyway
[08:59] <scguy318> GenDZ: Skype? Teamspeak? Ventrilo? (pretty darn proprietary though)
[08:59] <robdeman> hi all.. anybody here that could help me setting up Postfix/SMTP on my server? I need it to be all secure and all that
[08:59] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: do the command "groups" and check that you are a member of plugdev
[08:59] <imaginator> ljsmithx: scroll a bit.  look for mic boost at the bottom
[08:59] <steven_> ljsmithx its in alsamixer open a term and type alsamixer then move over to find mic boost and press M to un mute
[09:00] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, alright
[09:00] <th0r> AdemoS you might try first 'defaults' to see if the default values are sufficient. My ntfs partitions are mounted with 'user,users,gid=users,umask=0002' and are writeable by users
[09:00] <AdemoS> ademos adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[09:00] <Gate_Laptop> ok, that is what it should be
[09:00] <th0r> AdemoS the command 'mount' will show you the present options
[09:00] <ljsmithx> fixed it
[09:01] <steven_> now, another sound problem..  my microphone stays on all the time, even when its muted, it will reverb through my speakers all the time.. mute only turns it down a bit.. any ideas?
[09:01] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: next question: if you use sudo on the command line can you write to the drive? if so, you are being locked out by permissions
[09:01] <rake> scguy318: aha
[09:01] <imaginator> steven_: yes, toggle it to aux or synth IIRC
[09:01] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, can you give me a way to write with to the drive via terminal?
[09:01] <scguy318> rake: sources.list also lets you add third-party repositories
[09:01] <AdemoS> Th0r: Should I pastebin the contents?
[09:02] <scguy318> rake: though whether that's a good idea is a different story
[09:02] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, nevermind I'll try mkdir
[09:02] <th0r> AdemoS I am not an fstab expert...wouldn't be much more help than what I already said.
[09:02] <steven_> imaginator how do i do that, i cant find it
[09:02] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: that or touch :)
[09:03] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, (touch..? *laughs*) I used mkdir and with sudo I CAN make a dir, but I'm still locked out with nautilus
[09:03] <Sp4rKy> do people using packages.medibuntu.org can apt-get update and let me know if they get a Hash Sum Error from packages.medibuntu.org please ?
[09:04] <Gate_Laptop> OK, so you are just being denied privileges, th0r was right, go to fstab
[09:04] <imaginator> steven_: I wish I knew how to do that with alsamixer.  That's one reason I use alsamixergui :)
[09:04] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, okay when I get there, I'll paste the contents
[09:04] <Sp4rKy> (sorry for repeat, i really need this information)
[09:04] <KenSentMe> I have to test a new webcam driver for my laptop on the -24 kernel but i dont want to completely switch to hardy yet. Is there some other way to test the driver with the hardy kernel, without doing an upgrade?
[09:04] <scguy318> Sp4rKy: i get no errors
[09:04] <anson> how to use wine to play qq2007
[09:04] <rake> scguy318: would you happen to know where I can find a guide to install ruby on rails?
[09:05] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, http://pastebin.com/m2c66fdec
[09:05] <th0r> Gate_Laptop could you say that again...I hear it so rarely <smile>
[09:05] <scguy318> anson: you probably should see the Wine AppDb at http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:05] <scguy318> rake: I wouldn't unfortunately
[09:05] <Gate_Laptop> th0r: I said you suggested a reasonable and correct course of action, <insert generic ego stroke here>
[09:05] <Sp4rKy> scguy318: thanks
[09:05] <imaginator> steven_: another option might be amixer
[09:05] <Sp4rKy> other people ?
[09:05] <AdemoS> th0r: haha, I admit you were right also, I just wanted to try the help in order
[09:06] <steven_> i tried installing alsamixer, but cant get it to work, i tried "sudo apt-get alsamixergui" but it says "E: Invalid operation alsamixergui"
[09:06] <scguy318> steven_: you need to write sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[09:06] <steven_> ah knew i was forgeting somthing ... lol
[09:06] <tkooda> upgrading to gusty broke my intel audio.  I've tried compiling numerous versions of the alsa modules manually, and even my own 2.6.22.9 kernel, but to no avail..  -can anyone tell me what I need to do to get my audio back on my (intel 82801G; ICH7 Family; snd-intel8x0(m?)) laptop?
[09:07] <sthustfo> hi everyone
[09:07] <th0r> AdemoS you might change 'defaults'  for sdb1 to 'user,exec' and see if that gets you anywhere, but I doubt it will be the final answer
[09:07] <AdemoS> th0r: After which should I restart or mount -a?
[09:07] <nomego> heya guys, how can I get f-spot 0.4.1 for ubuntu gutsy?
[09:08] <nomego> is there a source-package somewhere I can built?
[09:08] <th0r> AdemoS I think you will just have to umount and mount /dev/sdb1...we ARE talking about sdb1, right? that is the drive you are workig with
[09:08] <nomego> build
[09:08] <th0r> ?
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: you'll probably have to find a tarball to make
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: sec
[09:08] <AdemoS> th0r: correct
[09:08] <steven_> scguy318 k thx that worked
[09:08] <scguy318> nomego: http://ftp.gnome.org/Public/GNOME/sources/f-spot/0.4/f-spot-0.4.1.tar.bz2
[09:08] <scguy318> !make | nomego
[09:08] <ubotu> nomego: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:09] <th0r> AdemoS yeah...'sudo umount /dev/sdb1' then 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1' should get you the new options
[09:09] <steven_> imaginator ok i have it now, i dont know where the setting is tho, i have like a million channels... idk why
[09:09] <th0r> AdemoS and if this works I will quit while I am ahead
[09:09] <AdemoS> th0r: haha you knew  me well
[09:10] <nomego> scguy318: yeah I know how to compile from source, just thought that "apt-get source -b" or similar had extra instructions?
[09:10] <nomego> scguy318: a "special" source packagE?
[09:10] <AdemoS> th0r: Device is busy? >_<
[09:10] <AdemoS> I'll reboot
[09:10] <scguy318> nomego: special?
[09:10] <imaginator> steven_: same here.  It's complex, but basically if you toggle aux from what I recall these red lights will turn on on the GUI, and your mike won't be active all the time.
[09:10] <AdemoS> brb guys, if you can stick around I'd appericate it
[09:11] <th0r> AdemoS you have to close nautilus so it isn't accessing the drive
[09:11] <nomego> scguy318: yeah, so apt/dpkg knows how to build it and if any patches should be applied, etc
[09:11] <imaginator> steven_: err mike/mic
[09:12] <th0r> AdemoS that should have been 'users,exec' not 'user'
[09:12] <steven_> imaginator well il figure something out.. ty for ur help
[09:12] <AdemoS> gaaah, still no permission
[09:12] <shownowon> tkooda: when upgrading from feisty to gutsy...i experienced the same thing w/my asus p5b intel duo setup.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:13] <imaginator> steven_: you're welcome.  I wish I knew of a better way.  alsa is very complex (perhaps overly), but it's better than what it replaced I think.  It's nice not having to deal with dualing sound daemons.  :)
[09:13] <AdemoS> th0r Gate_Laptop any other ideas?
[09:13] <scguy318> nomego: mm, dunno about that unfortunately
[09:14] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: I know of a dirty hack that will work, but it is a bad plan. give me a minute to think up the right way to do it
[09:14] <steven_> is there any way to get true SB drivers on ubuntu? (i know, im stupid for asking...)
[09:14] <th0r> AdemoS did you see my note about 'users' instead of 'user'?
[09:15] <AdemoS> th0r: >_< no
[09:15] <imaginator> AdemoS: is your problem that you can't mount and umount the disk, or that you can't write files to it now?
[09:15] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, I hate to bring up BILL gates, but "dirty hacks" reminded me of....
[09:15] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: NO! BAD!
[09:15] <AdemoS> imaginator, I can't write files
[09:15] <th0r> AdemoS try this for an option....'users,gid=users'
[09:16] <AdemoS> th0r alright
[09:16] <th0r> AdemoS the options are explained in 'man mount' under the Options section...under '-o'
[09:16] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: looks like th0r is taking you in a proper direction :)
[09:16] <AdemoS> th0r: haha, alright, let me know if they ever put in a woman mount.....sorry I couldn't resist
[09:16] <th0r> Gate_Laptop careful...I will come to expect it <smile>
[09:16] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, ah
[09:17] <imaginator> AdemoS: where are you mounting it, and what are the permissions of the directory where you're mounting it according to ls -l?
[09:17] <Gate_Laptop> hehe
[09:17] <AdemoS> imaginator, mounting in /media/storage
[09:17] <th0r> AdemoS and did you see my comment about shutting down nautilus? you need to shut down anything that is using that drive before you can umount it
[09:18] <AdemoS> th0r: how do I shut down the file manager?
[09:18] <Gate_Laptop> AdemoS: if *all* else fails, you can add yourself to the disks users group
[09:18] <th0r> AdemoS just close it...or move it so it isn't looking in that drive anymore
[09:18] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, well I'll try the current concept next
[09:18] <th0r> AdemoS  change to another directory not on that drive
[09:19] <ubuntu> the live PPC cd ubuntu 7.10 zont boot is there q sqfe mode to boot
[09:20] <kbdman> is it true about the 8.10 version???
[09:20] <Gate_Laptop> ubuntu is it a liveCD? try the alternate. What error does it give?
[09:20] <th0r> kbdman that it will have a psychic interface that doesn't require a keyboard? yes
[09:21] <imaginator> AdemoS: who do you want to be able to write to the disk?
[09:21] <kbdman> th0r: cool!
[09:21] <AdemoS> imaginator, non-root
[09:21] <ubuntu> the qlternate installs
[09:21] <walllieballie> HI
[09:21] <walllieballie> on the panel
[09:21] <walllieballie> where open applications are shown
[09:21] <imaginator> AdemoS: sudo chmod a+w /media/storage ;    sudo chgrp users /media/storage  should work
[09:21] <walllieballie> is it possible to stop applications from grouping?
[09:22] <walllieballie> and drag it up so it's twice as big, so more stuff can fit on it?
[09:22] <walllieballie> hell
[09:22] <walllieballie> oo
[09:22] <walllieballie> is anyone here
[09:22] <Gate_Laptop> walllieballie: be patient :)
[09:22] <walllieballie> what
[09:22] <walllieballie> fowr
[09:22] <Gate_Laptop> if you right click on the applications button you can edit the menus
[09:22] <imaginator> walllieballie: I seem to recall there is an option for the panel.  Have you right-clicked on the panel to see?
[09:22] <AdemoS> ahaaaa
[09:23] <AdemoS> imaginator, that worked great
[09:23] <AdemoS> th0r: I couldn't close nat in time : /
[09:23] <Gate_Laptop> see! I told you there was a right way AdemoS!
[09:23] <walllieballie> yes i have!
[09:23] <walllieballie> THERE IS NOt an option like that :>
[09:23] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, indeed! I applogize for mentioning the un-mentionable!
[09:23] <AdemoS> :P
[09:23] <Smegzo1> how do I find out what irq's are used on my pc?
[09:23] <nintendo> has anyone encountered ktorrent freezing 1 mb before the download finishes
[09:23] <walllieballie> it just makes it fatter
[09:23] <Gate_Laptop> wait AdemoS
[09:23] <walllieballie> not bigger
[09:24] <nintendo> is there any other recommended bittorrent software?
[09:24] <Gate_Laptop> imaginator: that won't work across a reboot, will it?
[09:24] <walllieballie> shut da fuk up nintendo cant u see im talking here bra
[09:24] <walllieballie> all of u stfu i got the conch
[09:24] <AdemoS> Gate_Laptop, ahh I was afraid of that
[09:24] <imaginator> Gate_Laptop: it should work across a reboot
[09:24] <Gate_Laptop> really?
[09:24] <imaginator> yes
[09:24] <Gate_Laptop> huh, cool
[09:24] <AdemoS> oooh
[09:24] <AdemoS> I wanna test that but
[09:24] <AdemoS> first
[09:24] <AdemoS> gonna save all these commands
[09:25] <Gate_Laptop> i see, the directory is permanent and will keep the settings, won't it.....
[09:25] <walllieballie> all of u stfu i got the conch
[09:25] <walllieballie> all of u stfu i got the conch
[09:25] <walllieballie> all of u stfu i got the conch
[09:25] <walllieballie> i want to know how i can make my panel bigger
[09:25] <Smegzo1> good luck with that walllieballie
[09:25] <walllieballie> and fit more apps on it
[09:25] <walllieballie> ok
[09:25] <walllieballie> hey Smegzo1
[09:25] <walllieballie> how about u butt out!
[09:25] <th0r> imaginator take a cookie out of petty cash for the answer of least resistance
[09:26] <Smegzo1> you must be new =)
[09:26] <Gate_Laptop> hahaha
[09:26] <walllieballie> hey
[09:26] <walllieballie> hey
[09:26] <walllieballie> ok
[09:26] <th0r> well...we will all jump in to help him
[09:26] <Smegzo1> there are 1,119 people here and all of them are allowed to talk
[09:26] <imaginator> Smegzo1: you can use dmesg or /proc/irq to find the irq for a device IIRC
[09:26]  * AdemoS tests just in case
[09:26] <AdemoS> brb
[09:26] <scguy318> !ops | walllieballie
[09:26] <Smegzo1> thanks imaginator
[09:26] <ubotu> walllieballie: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[09:27] <walllieballie> io me
[09:27] <walllieballie> op me
[09:27] <walllieballie> plz
[09:27] <imaginator> you're welcome Smegzo1
[09:28] <ozzloy> i can't start amarok
[09:28] <ozzloy> please help
[09:28] <scguy318> why not?
[09:28] <Myrtti> so I was considering doing an rsync - nfs based system to keep my laptop and desktop in sync with each other
[09:28] <Sonja> use exaile
[09:28] <Sonja> it's gnomey
[09:28] <Sonja> for ubuntologists
[09:28] <ozzloy> i type "amarok" and wait, takes a long time, nothing in terminal
[09:28] <th0r> ozzloy open a terminal, type 'amarok' and see if you get an error message
[09:29] <Gate_Laptop> Myrtti: Thanks! I was getting worried :)
[09:29] <ozzloy> er... "amarok<enter>
[09:29] <ozzloy> "
[09:29] <Sonja> i thought exaile was more ubuntu-friendly than amarok
[09:29] <th0r> ozzloy does it eventually come back to the command prompt?
[09:29] <ozzloy> th0r: nope, haven't waited longer than 5 minutes, which is waay longer than normal
[09:29] <jimmio> Hello, I'm attempting to follow a tutorial on SDL and OpenGL game creation and I'm getting an undefined reference compile error on all GL commands, anyone here able to help?
[09:30] <wols> jimmio: you're missing the proper library
[09:30] <scguy318> jimmio: I dunno how it works on gcc and stuff, but you probably need to add references to the OpenGL libs in your linker
[09:30] <imaginator> ozzloy: try running strace amarok   that should tell you what syscall it's stuck in, unless it's somehow into an endless loop (in which case it will showup in top using a lot of CPU)
[09:30] <shownowon> ozzloy: try typing | sudo amarok
[09:30] <wols> compile/link with it and all will be well
[09:31] <Neatchee> Hey all.  My wireless device isn't showing up in ifconfig or iwconfig.  lshw shows that the driver is loaded, and the device is claimed, but it's not giving the device a logical name.  Any help would be appreciated.
[09:31] <imaginator> jimmio: I wrote a tutorial that may help.  One moment
[09:31] <ozzloy> imaginator: oooh yeah, some infinite loop
[09:31] <ozzloy> waitpid(14791, 0xbfa9d590, WNOHANG)     = 0
[09:31] <ozzloy> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[09:31] <ozzloy> over and over
[09:32] <imaginator> jimmio: this in combination with the man/info pages should help: http://www.xmission.com/~georgeps/documentation/tutorials/compilation_and_makefiles.html
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> anyone know a way that I could define a system alias such that when I type in "wp" in my browser, it actually goes to en.wikipedia.org ?
[09:32] <Hemebond> For firefox?
[09:32] <Hemebond> Create a bookmark.
[09:33] <AdemoS> gaah so close
[09:33] <AdemoS> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "gid=100" or missing value
[09:33] <Hemebond> Enter in wp as the keyword.
[09:33] <wols> tonyyarusso: put it in /etc/hosts or something
[09:33] <ozzloy> shownowon: sudo strace amarok shows an infinite loop of some sort
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> wols: how?  I tried what I thought would work in there, but nothing changed
[09:33] <cptR3D> !mce
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <wols> AdemoS: ext3 does its own perms, not via mount option like vfat
[09:33] <th0r> tonyyarusso in the file ~/.alias add the following line
[09:33] <AdemoS> wols: Set it to default then?
[09:33] <Smegzo1> hmm.. well I haven't found anything responsible for freezing my pc while doing a network file copy, but I'm going to see how it handles a 4 gig single file transfer. I bet i crash.
[09:33] <imaginator> AdemoS: I don't think you want gid=1000
[09:33] <imaginator> that's for adfs and some others, not ext3
[09:34] <shownowon> ozzloy: r u running under kde or gnome
[09:34] <|newbie|> hola
[09:34] <wols> AdemoS: no gid option at all
[09:34] <stupidgirl> hai i have 6 users
[09:34] <th0r> tonyyarusso alias wp='firefox <url>'
[09:34] <void^> ozzloy: amarok is just a loader, it waits for amarokapp
[09:34] <jimmio> I was hoping to use CodeBlocks C/C++ IDE still... what might I do to get it working with the IDE?
[09:34] <stupidgirl> i want to make a folder where they can all access and change files
[09:34] <|newbie|> alguen escribe en español
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> th0r: No, that would make a bash command alias - I want a host alias.
[09:34] <stupidgirl> how to do this in ubuntu 7.10, best way?
[09:34] <AdemoS> imaginator, didn't use 1000 --- /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,gid=users        0       2
[09:34] <|newbie|> spanish
[09:34] <|newbie|> ???
[09:34] <Hemebond> stupidgirl: Access Control Lists
[09:34] <th0r> tonyyarusso add it to the file /etc/hosts
[09:35] <AdemoS> wols: is this better?  /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,exc        0       2
[09:35] <|newbie|> nadie habla español
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: gnome
[09:35] <shownowon> ozzloy: ahhh...amarok is a kde app
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: yeah, i know
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: i run it all the time.  have the libraries
[09:35] <stupidgirl> Hemebond, sorry sir, i r noob, plz explain, "access control lists"
[09:35] <th0r> tonyyarusso you can add 'alteregos' at the end of a line like '192.168.1.2 www.myhome.net myhome wp'
[09:35] <Hemebond> stupidgirl: Or, just create a folder with the same permissions as /tmp
[09:35] <ozzloy> shownowon: just this time it's taking a long time
[09:35] <|newbie|> heyyyyyyyy
[09:36] <AdemoS> |newbie|: /join #ubuntu-es for esponol
[09:36] <wols> !aCL
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <wols> AdemoS: what is "exc" supposed to be?
[09:36] <shownowon> ozzloy: i would think that ur kde install got messed up somehow...but that doesn't seem to b the answer
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> th0r: what if I don't want to include the IP address, just the english names?
[09:36] <ozzloy> k, i killall amarokapp
[09:36] <ozzloy> that worked
[09:36] <AdemoS> wols: sorry mistake  /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ext3    user,exec        0       2
[09:37] <AdemoS> wols: or should that be "default"
[09:37] <wols> AdemoS: looks fine from here
[09:37] <th0r> tonyyarusso don't know...never wanted to do that <smile>. I think you will need an ip for /etc/hosts/
[09:37] <ozzloy> imaginator: shownowon: thanks, i fixed it!
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> th0r: hmm, bother
[09:37] <imaginator> you're welcome ozzloy
[09:37] <wols> tonyyarusso: then you need to run your own DNS server with a cusom CNAME for "wp"
[09:37] <ozzloy> void^: thanks
[09:37] <th0r> tonyyarusso what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> th0r: Save myself keystrokes for frequently visited web sites (that may have rotating IPs)
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> wols: I suppose I could do that.
[09:38] <AdemoS> wols: Which one is fine? exec or default?
[09:38] <wols> I'd use default
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> wols: BIND, or is something else more appropriate?
[09:39] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Goodness me, just use a Firefox keyword.
[09:39] <AdemoS> alright
[09:39] <kote> or hosts?
[09:39] <AdemoS> wols: reboot?
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: a who what now?  (I actually use Epiphany much of the time, but still interested)
[09:39] <th0r> AdemoS no...just umount and mount
[09:39] <wols> AdemoS: why would you?
[09:39] <cptR3D> !linuxmce
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <kote> right nm missed that
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: You add a keyword to a bookmark. It's like a shorcut. For example, if I want to search Wikipedia I type: "w my search terms"
[09:40] <AdemoS> all: ....because mount never worked before >_> <_< sorry will do
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Because I've set "w" as the keyword for the Wikipedia search.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: That would be fantastic - I never knew Firefox had such a thing...
[09:40] <AdvoWork> hi there. is there any reason why going to my home dir and performing a ls would hang/take ages, and connecting via winscp or similar allows me to any folder apart from home, in which case it gives the errors: Error listing directory '/home'. and Error changing directory to '/home'.  ?
[09:40] <AdemoS> ahh
[09:40] <AdemoS> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "default" or missing value
[09:40] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Actually, Firefox comes with a keyword for Wikipedia already. Google too.
[09:41] <kote> ah cool... that keyword thing
[09:41] <c9s> hello , i have command to rename a file ( mv foobar/foo.bak foobar/foo ) , how do i make this command shorter ?
[09:41] <wols> AdemoS: defaults
[09:41] <th0r> AdemoS try 'users' (note the second 's')
[09:41] <AdemoS> s...okay
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> hottium: what is the default?
[09:41] <th0r> AdemoS one way or the other...we need more 's's <smile>
[09:41] <AdemoS> haha
[09:41] <AdemoS> indeed
[09:41] <AdemoS> that did it
[09:41] <c9s> or faster
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: rather ^^
[09:42] <Hemebond> Default what?
[09:42] <AdemoS> okay....one last reboot to test this and I'm good
[09:42] <AdemoS> brb
[09:42] <c9s> hello , i have command to rename a file ( mv foobar/foo.bak foobar/foo ) , how do i make this command shorter or faster  :)
[09:42] <c9s> thanks
[09:42] <Hemebond> c9s: What do you mean shorter?
[09:42] <imaginator> c9s: that looks short to me.  are you doing it over a lot of files?
[09:43] <jimmio> I added this to the linker settings tab: -I/usr/include/GL/gl.h but it didn't change anything
[09:43] <Riddick> is there a package name to install all the compilers like there is for the desktop?  like ubuntu-compilers?
[09:44] <Hemebond> Riddick: Not build-essentials?
[09:44] <imaginator> jimmio: you want the directory.  It should work if you use -I/usr/include/GL  and then your #include <gl.h>
[09:44] <Riddick> let me try that
[09:44] <scriptha_> How do I disconnect a session from my sshd?
[09:44] <Hemebond> scriptha_: Exit?
[09:44] <imaginator> jimmio: normally #include <GL/gl.h> would work though
[09:44] <scriptha_> from the server Hemebond
[09:44] <Hemebond> scriptha_: Oh, you mean from the server end...
[09:45] <zcat[1]> Riddick: b-e will give you all the stuff you typically need to start building stuff.. but probably not 'all' the compilers available..
[09:45] <AdemoS> very nice
[09:45] <jimmio> imaginator: then there is another issue somewhere...
[09:45] <AdemoS> working good
[09:45] <Hemebond> scriptha_: restart the service? googling now.
[09:45] <th0r> scriptha_  you can force it to drop with 'kill -9 <pid>'
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: how did you write a url to the wikipedia search directly?
[09:45] <vud1> hi all. I am working in a gnome sport application
[09:45] <imaginator> jimmio: is it a linking issue, or a header file issue?
[09:45] <th0r> scriptha_ you need to do that as root or with sudo
[09:46] <vud1> and i need knows if "Accumulated Unevenness" is an english correct expression. is it?
[09:46] <AdemoS> the one thing is, I bought a terrbyte drive and I only have 870 GB to work with (46 GB used, 916 GB total)
[09:46] <Hemebond> tonyyarusso: Does Firefox not already have one? If not, go to the search box on the Wikipedia page, right-click on it and select "Add a keyword for this Search..."
[09:46] <scriptha_> thanks
[09:46] <AdemoS> Is this huge cut in space normal?
[09:46] <AdemoS> Gparted says I'm using the entire drive
[09:46] <am0ns3t> hello. what i should do if instead the ubuntu boot screen i want see verbose mode?
[09:46] <HackerAlert> Can someone please help me, just 2 questions I have..
[09:46] <th0r> AdemoS yeah...a 10MB drive never was 10MB either...a manufacturers game
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Hemebond: Whoa.  To think I've been using this for years without knowing that.....  :P
[09:47] <th0r> AdemoS comes from considering a GB as 1000 MB instead of 1024 MB
[09:47] <AdemoS> th0r: Damn, well I knew it would less then 1 TB but I didn't expect this much less
[09:47] <HackerAlert> I'm having problems installing wine
[09:47] <HackerAlert> The website says to do this step first: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:47] <jimmio> imaginator: it says "undefined reference to "glViewPort"" and all other GL commands... that's about all I know
[09:47] <th0r> AdemoS yeah well...consider the problem starts with 1KB not being 1024 B and then keeps compounding
[09:47] <AdemoS> Thor: haha, another scam huh?
[09:48] <HackerAlert> I get this error when doing that: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[09:48] <HackerAlert> So that command is not working.. =\
[09:48] <HackerAlert> And next it says to do "sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"
[09:48] <kraut> moin
[09:48] <AdemoS> Th0r: Add to that scam, this one, and you're looking at the bleak future : / http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html
[09:48] <th0r> AdemoS I call them habits....HAlf Baked Implementations of Technology
[09:48] <imaginator> AdemoS: for some reason hard disk manufacturers go by a different base than most
[09:48] <HackerAlert> When I do that one, I get this error..
[09:48] <HackerAlert> Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[09:48] <HackerAlert> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list: Unsupported scheme.
[09:48] <imaginator> they are using powers of 10 IIRC rather than powers of 2
[09:49] <am0ns3t> hello. what i should do if instead the ubuntu boot screen i want see verbose mode?
[09:49] <imaginator> jimmio: do you have -lgl  ?
[09:49] <nofear> how do i play mp3's and dvds on       ubuntu?
[09:49] <th0r> am0ns3t in /boot/grub/menu.lst change 'splash=siletn' to 'splash=verbose'
[09:49] <AdemoS> Okay guys, so one more question, though not a big one
[09:49] <th0r> am0ns3t (silent)
[09:49] <AdemoS> When a boot and shut down ubuntu, I don
[09:50] <AdemoS> t see the loading screen anymore
[09:50] <AdemoS> that might just be the dual core speeding along, but I wanted to make sure it was normal
[09:50] <am0ns3t> th0r: thanks
[09:50] <AdemoS> *quad core
[09:50] <scguy318> HackerAlert: so your proxy configuration for wget/your system might be an issue
[09:50] <theCarpenter> i cant find the port i would enter into the X configuration file to use an ethernet mouse
[09:50] <HackerAlert> I dont have a proxy configuration :X
[09:50] <theCarpenter> yes, its an ethernet mouse and yes its ghetto, but its my only one :X
[09:50] <HackerAlert> Well I never set one up..
[09:50] <HackerAlert> whoah an ethernet mouse? awesome
[09:51] <jimmio> imaginator: not quite sure what you mean there... the GL folder does exist and the IDE is even recognizing the parameters to be sent to the different functions
[09:51] <th0r> HackerAlert I think that error is saying someplace in your sources list you have a repo listed as http://:8080, missing the domain name or ip
[09:51] <AdemoS> guys what is "icedteajava7"? Some non-sun java?
[09:52] <imaginator> jimmio: you basically need a /usr/lib/libGL.so or /usr/lib/libGL.a  -l will use either if it exists
[09:52] <imaginator> I got the case wrong before.  it should be -lGL
[09:52] <HackerAlert> but I never set up a repo other than the default ones..
[09:52] <theCarpenter> im looking at the ubuntu wiki for serial mouse configuration, but i cant find an analogue for the ethernet port
[09:52] <imaginator> jimmio: btw the Mesa package provides libGL if you don't have it
[09:52] <theCarpenter> there is no /dev/eth0 or /dev/eth1 or anything
[09:53] <tuntun> has anyone played flightgear? what did you think? (sceenshots here: http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/)
[09:53] <AdemoS> ooooh answered my own question http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/Main_Page
[09:53] <oly-> hi, i am trying to setup freetds on gutsy and want to test my connection using tsql except it does not exist, is there a package i can install for tsql ?
[09:54] <ikonia> oly-: tsql is normally part of a database toolkit, tsql will depend on what database you are connecting to
[09:55] <oly-> trying to connect to mssql, i read to install freetds and the run tsql to test
[09:55] <oly-> but i can not test because its not installed, so not sure what todo to get it
[09:55] <ikonia> oly-: well there won't be an ms-sql client designed to run on linux
[09:55] <oly-> well from what i have read you can using freetds
[09:55] <ikonia> I'm just reading up on freetds now as I've never used it
[09:56] <jimmio> imaginator: Thank you so much. I've got it working now. Didn't realize I needed to include the actually library...
[09:56] <oly-> or alternatively using odbc, but freetds sounds better and looks simpler
[09:56] <jimmio> actual*
[09:56] <imaginator> jimmio: it's more linking with the library, than including it :)
[09:56] <imaginator> jimmio: and you're welcome
[09:56] <ikonia> oly-: where did you install freetds from the ubuntu repo's or the freetds website ?
[09:56] <jimmio> imaginator: =)
[09:57] <oly-> from the repo's
[09:57] <nocturn> Hi all
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: Hi
[09:57] <nocturn> What programs can open streaming mms audio?
[09:57] <tarelerulz> What is if you changed the size of you swap while you where running you system ?  What would happen
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: vlc
[09:57] <iNeo> nocturn: VLC Media Player
[09:58] <ikonia> oly-: ok, I think the package sqsh will contain a command line connector tool to test
[09:58] <nocturn> iNeo: Off course, why didn't I think of this...
[09:58] <iNeo> nocturn: Or Banshee
[09:58] <nocturn> was messing with Exaile and movie player
[09:58] <iNeo> nocturn: Good luck
[09:58] <ikonia> oly-: I can see connection libraries in the repo's but no actual ms-sql tsql client. (which I wouldn't expect)
[09:59] <ikonia> oly-: the only other package could be the sqlrelay-freetds package as thts a daemon that may contain a tsql client, but I don't know that
[09:59] <oly-> yeah i tried sqsh, but it was unhelpful it it run and returned to the console with out any error
[09:59] <nocturn> iNeo: Installing vlc now, thanks
[09:59] <MF_Debian> tarelerulz, its like saying all the names of god, the world will end, heh, nah its fine to do that
[09:59] <imaginator> tarelerulz: how would you do that?
[09:59] <oly-> okay will try that if i dont have it installed
[09:59] <ikonia> oly-: I can't see how there can be an MS tsql client for a linux platform to be honest.
[10:00] <oly-> i am not sure how it works, just found it from reading on the web the example i think was for dapper
[10:00] <ikonia> just got to pop for meeting
[10:00] <oly-> and said just install freetds
[10:01] <tarelerulz> MF_Debian , the reason I ask is I noticed I had some odd free space that I did not make it part of the swap .   Plus could you resize you root partition while you where using it ?
[10:01] <gaelik> Hi everyone.
[10:01] <gaelik> alguien habla castellano por aqui?
[10:02] <tpal> hi everyone
[10:02] <Karyom> hi all
[10:03] <tpal> i have a problem, can anyone help me?
[10:03] <Karyom> has anybody experiences with runnun Windows on Linux as a Virtual Machine? how much Systrem resources does it need?
[10:03] <AdemoS> hmm
[10:03] <Hemebond> Karyom: It all depends on how much resources you give it.
[10:03] <AdemoS> everytime I try to run Azureus it crashes
[10:03] <AdemoS> any ideas?
[10:03] <Hemebond> AdemoS: It does that.
[10:03] <AdemoS> should I dump javaicedtea?
[10:03] <AdemoS> because with sunjava I never had that issue
[10:03] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Use something else.
[10:04] <AdemoS> Well since I have plugins in Azu I use, that's not my best option
[10:04] <AdemoS> I'll try Sun java next
[10:04] <th0r> AdemoS I would recommend going to sun java anyway to ensure compatibility with other java apps
[10:04] <Hemebond> AdemoS: if you get it running let me know as I tried absolutely everything.
[10:04] <Karyom> I have an Intel Core Duo 2Ghz and 2 Gb RAM will it run?
[10:05] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Gave up and went to Deluge
[10:05] <AdemoS> th0r: Same here
[10:05] <AdemoS> Hemebond, can you link me to that, might be interesting to look at
[10:05] <th0r> Hemebond I had it running in suse the other day, but saw no reason to keep it since I like Deluge
[10:05] <Hemebond> It's in the repos
[10:06] <Karyom> AdemoS have you tried KTorrent? I think its much better than Azureus
[10:06] <AdemoS> hmm I'll check it out, I really do like the cross-combatiliblity concept though
[10:06] <linuxboy> does postgres in ubuntu suppoer pg-cluster ?
[10:06] <AdemoS> I'll try them both guys
[10:06] <tuntun> Has anyone played FlightGear? (screenshots http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/) how is it??
[10:06] <Hemebond> th0r: I spent a day or two trying to get it running in Ubuntu. Tried every version of Java. Different versions of Az. Repo. Debs. The lot. Kind of runs now but throws up heaps of errors.
[10:06] <gaelik> need somehelp
[10:06] <gaelik> my sinaptic is dead
[10:07] <Hemebond> gaelik: Dead how?
[10:07] <oly-> ikonia, looks like its missing from gutsy if you download and compile freetds its actually included
[10:07] <th0r> Hemebond that was something I didn't like about it. If I ran it from a menu it looked fine, but from a terminal it was constantly throwing errors
[10:07] <gaelik> E: Línea 67 mal formada en lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list (dist absoluta)
[10:07] <imaginator> gaelik: do you mean synaptic  (the package manager) ?
[10:07] <AdemoS> two ports...?
[10:07] <gaelik> E: Líne 67 as bad format in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist absoluta)
[10:08] <Myrtti> gaelik: looks like it says what the error is
[10:08] <AdemoS> I haven't used two ports for bittorrents since the shadow BT
[10:08] <gaelik> yes
[10:08] <Myrtti> gaelik: fix it
[10:08] <gaelik> synaptic
[10:08] <AdemoS> well I'll look at ktorrent
[10:08] <ikonia> oly-: apologies, I'm back now
[10:08] <th0r> gaelik look at line 67 in that file....there is something wrong with it.
[10:08] <gaelik> ........
[10:08] <gaelik> ok
[10:08] <bagoes> jember
[10:08] <gaelik> ill take a look and i come back
[10:09] <Myrtti> gaelik: alt-f2, write "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and see what's on line 67
[10:09] <oly-> thats okay, just thought i would let you know so basically it should be possible to connect using freetds, just have to compile my own
[10:09] <imaginator> tuntun: FlightGear is ok.  I played it years ago.  It's mainly meant as an accurate simulation of flying, so it's somewhat complex.  I think I prefer bzflag, openarena, and tremulous for gaming.
[10:09] <ikonia> oly-: so you have to build your own ms tsql client ?
[10:09] <oly-> no just build my own freetds
[10:09] <bagoes> everyone with no one
[10:09] <oly-> it includes tsql,
[10:09] <Karyom> Ademos you can install it over at-get, but for the more up to date Version you must install it over source...from the Website
[10:10] <oly-> just not in the version in the repository for some reason
[10:10] <ikonia> oly-: ahh hI see
[10:10] <gaelik> ok
[10:10] <gaelik> im seyng the list now
[10:10] <oly-> will see if i can file it as a bug some where or something
[10:10] <gaelik> thanks myrtti
[10:10] <gaelik> now what?
[10:10] <Sergemine> Hi, Guys! Need help. I have to connect to a network without a dhcp server. When setting a static IP nothing works since the last update. No network at all. Anyone knows if there is a way to make ubuntu set a specified IP in case it fales to find a DHCP???
[10:10] <oly-> should be in hardy, because buisnesses generally have mssql in place so need to interoperate with it
[10:11] <gaelik> lines arent numbered
[10:11] <ikonia> oly-: I would log a request to verify it will be in hardy rather than assume
[10:11] <chazco> Anyone know how to create a mime type which will be recognised in KDE and Gnome?
[10:11] <AdemoS> Karyom, well at the moment I'm trying sun java, but I'll try that next thanks
[10:11] <Hemebond> gaelik: Gedit lets you go to a line.
[10:11] <ikonia> chazco: are you still struggling
[10:11] <Hemebond> gaelik: Under the search menu
[10:11] <oly-> ikonia, what do you mean log a request is that the ask a question on launchpad
[10:11] <tuntun> imaginator: look at the screenshots (http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/) it looks like flight simulator X, that's not too complex, this doesn't look so either
[10:11] <chazco> ikonia - It works on Gnome, but not KDE
[10:12] <ikonia> oly-: correct
[10:12] <chazco> Still not sure if i've done it the correct way though
[10:12] <oly-> okay will do thxs for the help :)
[10:12] <AdemoS> yup, good old azu didn't let me down
[10:12] <AdemoS> Hemebond, go with Sun Java 6 jre
[10:12] <norv> chazco: well there's /etc/mime.types etc
[10:12] <ikonia> chazco: I've not got access to my build kit at the moment but as you've been struggling for so long and really trying with this, if you want I'll catch you later about 8:00GMT and go through this with you when I can access my build machine
[10:12] <WEW> I'm using dual monitor with separate X screens. When I want to launch a program from terminal, how do i let it know which screen to open in? Write now everything's going to the 2nd monitor
[10:13] <chazco> Oh thanks :) Would appreciate that
[10:13] <chazco> norv - Tried that, KDE doesnt seem to recognise it
[10:13] <tuntun> imaginator: you said you played a few years ago, it must have been 2d! :P
[10:13] <chazco> I think they both use different methods
[10:13] <imaginator> tuntun: nah, it was 3D.  I think there was only a plane back then to fly
[10:13] <Hemebond> AdemoS: I use SUN Java
[10:14] <Sergemine> Anyone: can ubuntu set a static IP in case it doesn't get automatically - like in Windows (alternative configuration) ???????????
[10:14] <nocturn> Hi again
[10:14] <AdemoS> Hemebond, Sun Java 6 though? Cause once I switched to that, no crashes
[10:14] <imaginator> WEW: do you have displays :0.0 and :0.1?
[10:14] <nocturn> I'm still trying to open an mms stream
[10:14] <WEW> imaginator i dont know
[10:14] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Yes. It's in the repos.
[10:14] <nocturn> every program locks up when opening it, vlc, banshee, movie player, xine, ...
[10:14] <Myrtti> Sergemine: sure
[10:14] <WEW> imaginator where do I check that
[10:15] <imaginator> WEW: xdpyinfo would tell you which screens you have.  The screen number comes after the 0.
[10:15] <AdemoS> Hemebond, well doing that worked for me, and I got everything from the repo....beyond remove and installing again I don't know what to tell ya
[10:15] <Sergemine> Oh! Myrtti, how can I do that??/
[10:15] <th0r> nocturn what is the stream?
[10:15] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, see "man dhclient.conf" in the "alias declarations"
[10:15] <Hemebond> AdemoS: What version of Azu you using? 2.5 from the repos?
[10:15] <nocturn> th0r: mms://wm.streampower.be/4fmlow
[10:15] <nocturn> It's a local Belgian radio station
[10:15] <tuntun> everyone should have a look at at this open source flight simulator (screenshots: http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v1.0/).
[10:15] <tuntun>  If anyone decides to play it let me know how it is! :)
[10:15] <AdemoS> Hemebond, 2.5.0.4
[10:15] <Myrtti> Jowi_n1: how about System - Admin - Network Tools
[10:16] <imaginator> WEW: you should be able to do something like:  xterm -display :0.0   to make it be on a certain screen.  If the program doesn't support that you can use: env DISPLAY=:0.0 someprogram &
[10:16] <WEW> imaginator: Okay it's 0 and 1, and the default screen is set to 0
[10:16] <WEW> imaginator: Sorry I mean default is 1
[10:16] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Ah, I needed 3.
[10:16] <Myrtti> what on earth
[10:16] <Myrtti> Sergemine: system - admin - network tools
[10:16] <Myrtti> Jowi_n1: nvm
[10:16] <Jowi_n1> Myrtti, haven't got gnome here.
[10:16] <th0r> nocturn if its any consolation it doesn't work for me either...and I use vlc to run streams all the time.
[10:16] <jimmio> tuntun: Played it before... it was alright...
[10:17] <nocturn> Thanks for trying th0r
[10:17] <WEW> imaginator how do I make the default screen 0
 Yeah, it's only just gotten to version 1 :O
[10:17] <AdemoS> Hemebond, haha, never thought I
[10:17] <AdemoS> I'd be solving OTHER people's problems here
[10:18] <th0r> nocturn xmms doesn't like it either
[10:18] <Sergemine> Jowi_n1, it sounds just like what I need, but I never did it before. Could you please give a little more detail??? Please. alias, declarations - no idea what it is and where to look for it
[10:18] <imaginator> WEW: I'm not certain, but perhaps via your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  mine is by default screen 0
[10:18] <c9s> imaginator: yeah, it's a long path
[10:18] <c9s> imaginator: yeah, it's a long path  #>> hello , i have command to rename a file ( mv foobar/foo.bak foobar/foo ) , how do i make this command shorter or faster  :)
[10:18] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Did you get 3 running?
[10:18] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, luckily I don't have to - there's a Sample of how the alias works at the bottom of the man page :)
[10:18] <th0r> nocturn mplayer froze on it <smile>
[10:19] <WEW> imaginator: Mine was normal before, but after I restarted gdm, somehow everything's now going to the 2nd screen
[10:19] <Sonja> what app can i use to compose music?
[10:19] <AdemoS> Hemebond, 3 what?
[10:19] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Azureus 3
[10:19] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, however, if it can be achieved with a gui as Myrtti said, perhaps that's easier...
[10:19] <c9s> imaginator: the path i actually have might be foobar/fff/ddd/zzz/eee/qqq/hhh/foo.bak
[10:19] <imaginator> c9s: I suppose you could use a variable for the long prefix
[10:19] <Sergemine> Jowi_n1, where do I set alias and declaration???
[10:19] <nocturn> th0r: It freezes any program I tried...
[10:20] <nocturn> Nice stream :-)
[10:20] <Sonja> to compose a midi or whatever
[10:20] <jimmio> imaginator: sorry to bug you again... but it seems I have a similar issue... this time with a function called IMG_Load which isn't declared anywhere X_X
[10:20] <c9s> imaginator: hmm can i save the variable in the same line ?
[10:20] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf is the config file
[10:20] <inSanity_808> fUGLY : dude!
[10:21] <jimmio> imaginator: nvm, I got it I believe
[10:21] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, my dhclient.conf file already contain an alias commented out that seem useful.
[10:21] <AdemoS> Hemebond, oh Azureus 3, no I was only working with 2.5.0.4. I guess I could grab it, though this is working fine
[10:21] <AdemoS> Hemebond, got a deb or a repo I can sign up for?
[10:22] <c9s> imaginator: i have a idea
[10:22] <Sergemin1> Jowi_n1, I got disconneted so probably missed reply. Where can I setup alias and declarations, dhcp client ??? PLS
[10:22] <Hemebond> AdemoS: You have to download a .jar from the website. I recommend just sticking with 2.5.
[10:22] <imaginator> c9s: VAR=/some/long/path ; mv $VAR/file foo/bar
[10:22] <c9s> imaginator: mv something{.dic,}
[10:22] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Azureus is a dog to upgrade.
[10:22] <c9s> imaginator: mv something{.bak,}
[10:22] <AdemoS> Hemebond, haha "Update Manager: Congratulations, you have the newest version"
[10:22] <AdemoS> I'll just take their word fo rit
[10:22] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf is the config file.It should already contain a sample "alias" section in there that you can just comment out and modify.
[10:22] <Jowi_n1> Sergemin1, ^^^
[10:22] <c9s> imaginator: seems worky
[10:23] <c9s> imaginator: so i can do ... mv foobar/something{.bak,}
[10:23] <imaginator> WEW: do you have any mention of your "Default Screen" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ServerLayout?
[10:23] <c9s> imaginator: cool
[10:24] <Sergemin1> Jowi_n1, are there any GUI tools for that?
[10:24] <WEW> imaginator yes it's there
[10:24] <Jowi_n1> Sergemin1, I don't know.
[10:25] <Sergemin1> Jowi_n1, thank you
[10:25] <c9s> Sergemin1: $ sudo dhclient ?
[10:25] <WEW> imaginator; but not in server layout
[10:25] <imaginator> what section is it in?
[10:25] <c9s> Sergemin1: the config file is inside /etc/network/*
[10:26] <jmcd> wow a large group ....
[10:26] <WEW> imaginator it's there in section "Screen"
[10:26] <c9s> Sergemin1: you can setup your dhcp config in /etc/network/interface
[10:26] <Sergemin1> c9s, if I google for it - what is that I should be lloking for: DHCP client setup ???
[10:27] <jimmio> imaginator: Again it was a needed library, got it going now. Thanks again for the initial help, I'd be no where without ya
[10:28] <imaginator> jimmio: I'm glad you have it working :)
[10:29] <WEW> imaginator: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=9300 This is what my xorg.conf says
[10:29] <WEW> imaginator: I never added anything in there myself. I let nvidia-settings set it up
[10:29] <WEW> imaginator: It was working fine till now.. I don't know how it set a default screen without asking me
[10:30] <spdf> WEW: Likely the order they're initialized in
[10:30] <amikrop> Hello. I already have PHP installed in my system. How can I use the mail() function (should I install an MTA, and how to configure it)?
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> WEW: what are you trying to do?
[10:30] <WEW> spdf okay so how do I make the first screen initialize
[10:31] <WEW> IndyGunFreak: When I try to run something from terminal, it's opening in my 2nd screen..
[10:31] <IndyGunFreak> WEW: hang on, i remember having that problem..
[10:31] <WEW> IndyGunFreak: I want it to open in whichever screen I pulled up the terminal from
[10:31] <AdemoS> Hemebond, trying the deb from here, I'll let you know if it works out http://getdeb.net/release.php?id=1700
[10:31] <imaginator> WEW: I wonder if it could be the xinerama settings. I don't personally use xinerama, with my multiple displays
[10:32] <WEW> I lost sound earlier and I had to close gdm before removing the module and adding it back.. After I started gdm, now my 2nd screen is the default one somehow
[10:32] <WEW> imaginator: I don't have xinerama enabled
[10:32] <imaginator> WEW: did you use this: #Removed Option "Xinerama" "1"  ?
[10:32] <AdemoS> Hemebond, sorry that was 64 bit only, this has both http://getdeb.net/app.php?name=Azureus
[10:32] <imaginator> oh I see
[10:32] <Sergemine> c9s, DHCP client settings is the place where alternative IP (static) can be set ???
[10:32] <WEW> No I didnt do anything to the screen setup
[10:32] <WEW> It was working fine
[10:33] <IndyGunFreak> its in nvidia settings, i just can't remember what i changed
[10:34] <Jowi_n1> Sergemine, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf . check if it doesn't already contain an alias. it is simple to remove the #'s and adjust the IP+Netmask and save the file....
[10:35] <AdemoS> Hemebond, not only did Azuerus 3 work, I'm using it to update to the newest one, looking very nice
[10:35] <AdemoS> bookmark getdeb.net it's been a lifesaver for me
[10:35] <Sergemine> Jowi_n1, thank you again!
[10:36] <Hemebond> AdemoS: Cheers.
[10:36] <sasha_> hi
[10:36] <sasha_> i'm on hp compaq-dx2300
[10:37] <sasha_> from "lspci" i've : http://rafb.net/p/WDzHgt96.html
[10:37] <sasha_> how can i install the right driver ?
[10:37] <fUGLY> Hi Everybody. I am new with linux (ubuntu). I am trying to get my screen resolution right and to get my external samsung monitor working also. My Video card is a GeForce FX Go 5300. Could someone help me installing the correct drivers?
[10:38] <c9s> Jowi_n1: cool
[10:38] <sasha_> the video card is an :VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:38] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | fUGLY
[10:38] <ubotu> fUGLY: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <imaginator> WEW: I wish I had further advice other than hints.  You mentioned that you restarted GDM.  Perhaps it has something to do with changing the default screen.
[10:39] <AdemoS> hey guys, what dir would Azureus be located in? Following this guide http://azureuswiki.com/index.php/Failed_Update#Linux.2FUnix_notes
[10:39] <rich__> Question: I can mkds with a VM of CentOS 5 but i cannot mkfs from my host install of ubuntu 'device busy or in use'
[10:40] <iblicf> hi , what is 'fanbois' means , sorry im translate somthing from english to chinese
[10:40] <imaginator> sasha_: so you're trying to get X11 working with that card outside of VESA mode?
[10:40] <f0g_> hi i have a sound problem, my creative travelmate speakers don't work in gutsy
[10:40] <sasha_> imaginator: yes
[10:40] <bangkok> hi everyone from Italy ... i have problem with my new web cam SN9C201 ... some one have any news about driver? i tried the one at linux-projects ... installe coreclty ... but get this error: FATAL: Error inserting sn9cxxx (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/sn9c102/sn9cxxx.ko): Invalid argument
[10:41] <sasha_> i just wont use the right driver for my machine :-/
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> sasha_: curious, did your sound work out of the box?
[10:41] <bangkok> pls IM me for any tip
[10:41] <Hemebond> AdemoS: I just fixed the errors I was getting. Was a permissions thing. Probably when I ran it as root so that the auto-update rubbish would work.
[10:42] <f0g_> i have a sound problem, my creative travelmate speakers don't work in gutsy can anyone help?
[10:42] <AdemoS> Hemebond, how would I run it as root?
[10:43] <Hemebond> AdemoS: I was just running using sudo
[10:43] <Hemebond> Or something.
[10:43] <Hemebond> Can't remember now.
[10:43] <Hemebond> Never run things as root.
[10:43] <imaginator> sasha_: from what I've just read the i810 driver for Xorg may work
[10:44] <sasha_> how can i install it ?  using apt-get ?
[10:44] <dep1> hello and happy new year
[10:44] <AdemoS> Hemebond, what I mean is, how do I exec the program with sudo?
[10:44] <Hemebond> sudo azureus
[10:45] <dep1> who can help me to compile 7.10 kernel with restricted drivers support?
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> Hemebond: why in the world would you do that?
[10:45] <imaginator> sasha_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-i810
[10:45] <IndyGunFreak> dep1: just ask your question.
[10:45] <Hemebond> IndyGunFreak: Because I was getting errors about updates and permissions. Azureus has an auto-update feature.
[10:45] <sasha_> ok :-D
[10:46] <Myrtti> dep1: and how do you know it's not already compiled with restricted drivers support?
[10:46] <IndyGunFreak> Hemebond: hmm, you shouldn't need to do tht.
[10:46] <dep1> IndyGunFreak: thanks. I must use the MultiTech GPRS modem, i've patched the files but now i would recompile kernel (ubuntu 7.10)
[10:46] <IndyGunFreak> dep1: you shouldn't need to recompile the kernel, ndiswrapper will probably get your modem working, using the windows driver, but i'm not real familiar w/ it.
[10:46] <f0g_> built in laptop speakers are working, but standalone not...
[10:47] <Hemebond> IndyGunFreak: Agreed. I should be able to just install it through Synaptic.
[10:47] <imaginator> dep1: does it not build as a module?  just make sure the module gets copied to the right place, and modprobe or insmod it
[10:47] <dep1> IndyGunFreak: well i've the WinXP version, did you think it's working with ndiswrapper?
[10:48] <Maverick> why is my ubuntu using my ppp0 ip for my LAN?
[10:48] <IndyGunFreak> dep1: ndiswrapper is to use windows drivers w/ modems, wireless devices, etc.
[10:48] <dep1> IndyGunFreak:thanks, but how i can install /use ndiswrapper?
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> dep1: now that, i don't know... i'm not ral familiar w/ how it works.
[10:49] <wols> 1ndiswrapper
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> what type of modem do you have again
[10:49] <wols> !ndiswrapper
[10:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> !ndiswrapper
[10:49] <wols> IndyGunFreak: how do you know it works with modems?
[10:49] <IndyGunFreak> thats more releating to wifi/wireless... but its the same basic concept to get your dial up modem working.
[10:49] <wols> gprs ones at that?
[10:50] <IndyGunFreak> wols: i've saw it recommended here... i have no first hand experience w/ it.. i've just saw suggested using ndiswrapper w/ dial up modems
[10:50] <f0g_> !sound
[10:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:50] <ikonia> I don't think it will work with modems due to the winmodem chip issues
[10:50] <IndyGunFreak> hmm maybe not win modems..... what about *normal* modems?
[10:50] <wols> IndyGunFreak: I've seen people suggesing ndiswrapper for any windows drivers..
[10:51] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: normal modems won't need windows drivers
[10:51] <wols> IndyGunFreak: "normal" modems don't need special drivers
[10:51] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i thought that as soon as i typed it..lol
[10:51] <ttt--> what if a process doesnt respond to pkill or kill
[10:51] <ttt--> iit just keeps running
[10:51] <IndyGunFreak> ttt--: hit your pc with a hammer
[10:51] <wols> ttt--: kill -9 ?
[10:51] <ikonia> ttt--: are you the owner ? is the process zombied ? what kill level are you hitting it with ?
[10:51] <ttt--> what does -9 do?
[10:52] <WEW> ndiswrapper is for any windows driver? So I can install my scanner too?
[10:52] <ikonia> WEW: it's not a generic windows driver tool
[10:52] <IndyGunFreak> !dialup | dep1
[10:52] <ubotu> dep1: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[10:52] <ttt--> ok -9 did the trick, thanks!
[10:52] <imaginator> ttt--: it sends a SIGKILL signal to the process. SIGKILL is unblockable and can't be caught.
[10:52] <wols> WEW: no the point is it's NOT for any driver, but (W)LAN only
[10:53] <WEW> okay, that's what I thought
[10:53] <Arelis> How can i remove XGL?
[10:53] <wols> Arelis: apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[10:53] <keldon> ciao  a tutti
[10:53] <Arelis> and restore my old X confgi?
[10:53] <Arelis> config*
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> i've saw ndiswrapper suggested for dial u modems here, like i said, i can't verify it works/doesn't work, it was really just a suggestion...
[10:54] <wols> Arelis: /etc/X11/xorg.conf* are all your old ones
[10:54] <wols> the number after is a date/time
[10:54] <keldon> ho dei problemi con la scheda video
[10:54] <Myrtti> !it ª keldon
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it ª keldon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <keldon> qualcuno mi puo aiutare????
[10:54] <Myrtti> !it | keldon
[10:54] <wols> !it | keldon
[10:54] <ubotu> keldon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:54] <Maverick> my ubuntu uses ppp0 address instead of eth0 in my LAN apps due to which i am unable to use them....routing and ip tables for windows as well as ubuntu are here...http://file-post.com/view_code.php?id=636...please help
[10:55] <keldon> thx
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> was that italian?
[10:55] <Myrtti> yup
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> didn't knwo that.
[10:55] <Maverick> my ubuntu uses ppp0 address instead of eth0 in my LAN apps due to which i am unable to use them....routing and ip tables for windows as well as ubuntu are here...http://file-post.com/view_code.php?id=636
[10:55] <IndyGunFreak> !repeat | Maverick
[10:55] <ubotu> Maverick: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:56] <Maverick> i did that because the link was wrong
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[10:56] <ikonia> Maverick: routting for windows ?
[10:56] <wols> Maverick: where does eth0 get its IP from?
[10:57] <Maverick> wols: hmm...its actually my LAN
[10:57] <wols> Maverick: answer my question please
[10:57] <balou> jggjh
[10:57] <Maverick> wols: i gave it myself
[10:57] <AdemoS> Hemebond, so how did you exec the program with sudo?
[10:57] <ikonia> Maverick: ppp0 has a public(internet) facing ip address ?
[10:58] <f0g_> why built in speakers are working, and when i plug in creative speakers i can't hear a thing?
[10:58] <ikonia> Maverick: are you connected to the internet in any way ?
[10:58] <Maverick> ikonia, yes...ppp0 is my internet address
[10:58] <wols> Maverick: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:58] <AdemoS> Hemebond, ah didn't read the part about you forgetting, never mind
[10:58] <Hemebond> AdemoS: probably gksudo azureus
[10:58] <AdemoS> ooh
[10:58] <AdemoS> thanks
[10:58] <ikonia> Maverick: so what's the problem, your getting the correct settings on your ppp0 device
[10:58] <wols> running a p2p client as root is a spectacular dumb thing to do
[10:58] <AdemoS> what's the difference between gksudo and sudo?
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> wols: he's been told that like 4x..lol, he comes up with some reason to justify it..lol
[10:59] <Hemebond> AdemoS: As far as I understand it, sudo is console, gksudo is gnome|gui.
[10:59] <Maverick> ikonia: i am unable to use my lan properly
[10:59] <AdemoS> ahh
[10:59] <ikonia> Maverick: because youru default route is ppp0
[10:59] <wols> IndyGunFreak: who? AdemoS or Hemebond
[10:59] <ikonia> Maverick: so everything will go out of ppp0
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> Hemebond:
[10:59] <wols> ikonia: not everything
[10:59] <Hemebond> IndyGunFreak: I'm not running it as root.
[10:59] <ikonia> wols: well pretty much everything he has setup wil
[10:59] <Maverick> http://file-post.com/view_code.php?id=637
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[10:59] <ikonia> will
[11:00] <Maverick> ikonia: yes, it dosent use my eth0 IP address
[11:00] <wols> ikonia: certainly not or using ubuntu as a router would be impossible
[11:00] <wols> Maverick: using eth0 for WHAT?
[11:00] <Maverick> wols: LAN
[11:00] <Maverick> wols: ethernet
[11:00] <hades_> hello, i have a wierd bug. I dont know if tis is a firefox thing or an ubuntu thing. But Facebook.com takes a long time to load. but it only happens on my computer. it does a huge looking for site, then suddenly loads in a burst. Other computers in the house have no trouble and load it instantly
[11:00] <ikonia> Maverick: look at his routing table in the psot
[11:01] <ikonia> wols: sorry, I meant that for you, look at his routing table in the post
[11:01] <wols> Maverick: how do you try to access the lAN? what apps, doing what?
[11:01] <wols> Maverick: not "ethernet" is HOW, not WHAT. learn to answer the questions you're asked. not the least we still haven't seen the interfacs file
[11:01] <ikonia> Maverick: you need a route for your 10.x addresses
[11:01] <Maverick> wols: gaming, sharing and the normal stuff
[11:02] <wols> ikonia: 132.  localnet * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
[11:02] <ikonia> that won't work
[11:02] <ikonia> he'll need to call out explicit 10.x
[11:02] <dep1> please, who can help me to recompile ubuntu kernel 2.66.22 with restricted drivers support?
[11:02] <ikonia> dep1: you don't need to recompile a kernel
[11:02] <AdemoS> thanks for the help guys
[11:02] <AdemoS> be back later
[11:02] <ikonia> dep1: the ubuntu kernel ships with support fo the correct drivers
[11:03] <dep1> ikonia: i've patched a ti_usb* to support multitech modem but now i must rebuild the kernel. how i can do?
[11:04] <ikonia> dep1: it depends if you just want to build it, or build it with a debian package format
[11:04] <ikonia> dep1: I suggest you log a request for that patch to be included in the next kernel update to ubuntu
[11:07] <Maverick> ikonia: how can i route my 10.x address?
[11:08] <dep1> ikonia: this is the problem i dont know how to rebuild. can you give me the correct steps?
[11:08] <ikonia> Maverick: you need to setup your card to configure properly at boot time, with the correct routing / ip information, wols was asking to see the file that sets this up
[11:09] <Maverick> ikonia: i posted it, the interfaces file isnt it?
[11:09] <ikonia> dep1: thats what I'm asking how do you want to rebuild with/without package manager support - but you should also be aware that doing this will be broke when the next ubuntu kernel update comes out, which is why I'm suggesting you log a request to have ubuntu include the patch
[11:10] <murf3326> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10.  When I shutdown my monitors and PC power-down ok, but my USB devices remain powered. (my Logitech G15 Keyboard remains fully lit).  I Googled and found a couple of older Ubuntu/Linux bugs for USB devices remaining powered after shutdown.  Anyone know if there is a fix available for this problem?
[11:10] <ikonia> Maverick: I've not see that post
[11:10] <uruca> devo copiare il contenuto di una partizione ntfs da 80 gb illegibile e non montabile su un altro hard disk più grande. Al momento sta girando partimage, ma sta a 0% da quasi mezz'ora, non so se sta lavorando o meno
[11:10] <ikonia> !it | uruca
[11:10] <ubotu> uruca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:10] <Maverick> ikonia: http://file-post.com/view_code.php?id=637
[11:10] <dep1> ikonia: how i can ask to ubuntu development include my patch for the MultiTech GRPS Modem support?
[11:11] <uruca> join #ubuntu-it
[11:11] <ikonia> Maverick: that looks fine, I didn't realise your subnet mask was 255.0.0.0, you do have a route setup for that already
[11:12] <audigy> hello, yould someone help me, i have some problems with my mic, my soundcard is audigy 2 zs and sound works fine
[11:12] <ikonia> Maverick: I'm not sure I understand your problem, you've got internet accss fine, and if you connect to anything on the 10.x address range that should work
[11:13] <ikonia> Maverick what is not working ?
[11:13] <Maverick> ikonia: my problem is that my LAN games/azureus/messengers etc. use my ppp0 203.x IP address due to which i cannot see the peers or the other PCs in my network listed
[11:13] <ikonia> Maverick: thats because ppp0 is your default route
[11:14] <Maverick> ikonia: if i set 10.x as the default route, i lose connection to the internet
[11:14] <ikonia> Maverick: unless you tell your games/messager to connect TO a 10.x address they won't use the 10 address
[11:14] <ikonia> Maverick: why do you want a messager to connect to a 10.x address ?
[11:14] <libqt4> im having trouble playing an .avi file anyone?
[11:14] <LucidFox> Any iPod users here? (I'm not an iPod user, I need some feedback)
[11:14] <ikonia> !offtopic > LucidFox
[11:15] <ikonia> LucidFox: try #apple
[11:15] <libqt4> Unrecognized format for '/home/david/Desktop/Movie.avi'
[11:15] <libqt4> anyone?
[11:15] <LucidFox> ikonia> I need lsusb output on ubuntu
[11:15] <Maverick> ikonia: because all the other PCs on the network are using the 10.x address and i cannot see them with the 203.x address
[11:15] <pindapoy> buenas+
[11:15] <ikonia> libqt4: saying anyone doesn't help
[11:15] <LucidFox> with an iPod plugged in
[11:15] <ikonia> Maverick: I don't understand you want your messager client to connect to a 10.x addres ?
[11:15] <ikonia> LucidFox: apologies
[11:15] <libqt4> ikonia: File.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 0 x 0, ~30 fps,
[11:15] <Maverick> ikonia: yes...
[11:16] <ikonia> Maverick: so you'll need to configure your messager client to connect to a 10.x address
[11:16] <Maverick> ikonia: how can i do that?
[11:16] <ikonia> Maverick: I don't know
[11:16] <ikonia> Maverick: that depends on your messager client
[11:16] <ikonia> Maverick: basiclly unless you tell ANY application to connect to a 10.x address it will go out of the ppp0 card
[11:17] <Maverick> ikonia: all my apps connect using the ppp0 address unlike windows where they use the eth0 address...do i need to tell them to do so?
[11:17] <ikonia> Maverick: they are connecting using the ppp0 address because they are all looking for non 10.x addresses
[11:18] <ikonia> Maverick: you'll have to tell them to look for a 10.x address to make them connect out of eth0
[11:19] <Maverick> ikonia: are the routing tables in the file i posted ok in comparison with windows?
[11:20] <ikonia> Maverick: ok in what way ?
[11:21] <Maverick> ikonia: i mean to ask whether the problem lies in the routing in ubuntu or the apps...
[11:21] <billy> anyway to copy text from emacs into a webpage? as its not allowing me to copy and paste?
[11:22] <Hemebond> middle-mouse button?
[11:22] <ikonia> Martinp23: routing looks fine
[11:22] <jlulian38> Is there a library or something that will let you mount archives as partitions?
[11:23] <Maverick> ikonia: thanks
[11:23] <ikonia> Maverick: sorry, that was for you, but you appear to have guessed
[11:23] <Maverick> ikonia: np :)
[11:23] <ikonia> jlulian38: thinks like iso file systems, yes
[11:24] <jlulian38> I meant like .tar.gz's :/
[11:24] <ikonia> jlulian38: no, but why would you want to mount it ?
[11:24] <jlulian38> I remember something like that once
[11:24] <jlulian38> you could just cd into the directory :/
[11:24] <ikonia> jlulian38: you un tar it, you can then just cd into that directory
[11:25] <ikonia> jlulian38: once it's untarred you can mount it as a loopback file system
[11:25] <jlulian38> ikonia, it makes using applications with like storage archives easier
[11:25] <jlulian38> AS A COMPLETE EXAMPLE
[11:25] <jlulian38> say I'm reading a book
[11:25] <jlulian38> it's split into pages for some reason
[11:25] <jlulian38> these are all put into archives by chapter
[11:25] <__machine> how do i see a list of installed packages with ubuntu gutsy?
[11:25] <jlulian38> I don't want to untar them all, that would waste space
[11:25] <ikonia> __machine: use synaptic or dpkg -l
[11:25] <rich__> Question: I can mkds with a VM of CentOS 5 but i cannot mkfs from my host install of ubuntu 'device busy or in use'
[11:26] <jlulian38> but untarring and retarring each one is a pain
[11:26] <ikonia> jlulian38: thats just bad file managment, but thats off topic
[11:26] <jlulian38> Raor
[11:26] <jlulian38> fine
[11:26] <jlulian38> I'll go back to lurking
[11:26] <jlulian38> is that the actual spelling by the way?
[11:27] <jlulian38> lurk
[11:27] <jlulian38> huh :/
[11:28] <rich__> does anyone know the answer to my beautiful question?
[11:28] <Maverick> ikonia: is there any way to edit the routing tables using a text editor or something?
[11:29] <ikonia> Maverick: no
[11:29] <Maverick> ikonia: thanks...
[11:31] <Buiss> how to create a dialup connection in ubuntu if my connection doesnt require a username and password
[11:31] <martyn> rich, I strongly believe the answer to be ... 42
[11:31] <ikonia> Buiss: leave it blank ?
[11:31] <Buiss> it say no valid user name or password
[11:32] <Buiss> in wvdial.conf
[11:32] <ikonia> Buiss: no idea, never used wvdial
[11:32] <Buiss> then how to create one?
[11:32] <Buiss> without wvdial
[11:33] <ikonia> within ubuntu - I don't know much about the modem tool
[11:33] <|ns|nR8> just put in a username and password anyway
[11:34] <ikonia> |ns|nR8: surly then the connection will fail with a wrong username and password
[11:35] <|ns|nR8> why not try
[11:35] <Buiss> and what if it says "Carrier found dont know what to do..tryind pppd..pppdaemon died..trying to reconnect in 80 seconds
[11:35] <ikonia> sure
[11:35] <|ns|nR8> if it require no user/pass it wont ask for one
[11:35] <|ns|nR8> so it wont fail
[11:36] <HackerAlert> Can someone please help me, its just a quick issue
[11:36] <ikonia> HackerAlert: if you ask a question
[11:36] <HackerAlert> OK wel
[11:36] <Aquahallic> mornin' folks
[11:36] <HackerAlert> well*
[11:36] <HackerAlert> I've enabled ati drivers..
[11:36] <HackerAlert> but, when I start ubuntu it says im in low graphics mode
[11:36] <Buiss> i just tried puttind <none>..do it troubles
[11:37] <HackerAlert> and i can only choose 800x600 and 640x480 in screen resolution settings
[11:37] <HackerAlert> it says the driver is in use though
[11:37] <XiXaQ> it looks so easy to share files and folders using System > Administration > Shared folders, but I'm not able to view them... Why? :)
[11:37] <ikonia> HackerAlert: look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see what driver is actually in use
[11:37] <HackerAlert> OK
[11:37] <HackerAlert> what should it be set to? I have no idea, been using linux for only a day
[11:38] <XiXaQ> HackerAlert, you need to add the options to xorg.conf, probably.
[11:38] <w3d1w4_> direct rendering:NO how to change yes
[11:38] <ikonia> HackerAlert: thats ok, just look at what's in the xorg.conf file next to the line "Driver"
[11:38] <XiXaQ> HackerAlert, iirc, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg --phigh should fix it.
[11:38] <HackerAlert> fglrx
[11:38] <Aquahallic> I'm trying to get lirc working correctly.... I went to uninstall it because I think something got jacked with the install previously... when I do apt-get remove lirc it wants to pull out my control center and all kinds of mess... is it possible that the package handler is jacked??? if so... is there a way to repair this??
[11:38] <HackerAlert> thats what's on that line
[11:38] <ikonia> HackerAlert: ok, so that looks like your using the correct driver, which is a good start
[11:39] <HackerAlert> should I do that command line still?
[11:39] <ikonia> what command line ?
[11:39] <HackerAlert> sudo dpkg-reconfigure.......
[11:39] <ikonia> HackerAlert: if you want to try to re-configure it, sure
[11:39] <HackerAlert> Should the screen line be set to 0?
[11:39] <HackerAlert> or 1?
[11:39] <ikonia> screen line ?
[11:40] <HackerAlert> 	Screen	0
[11:40] <HackerAlert> thats whats on that line
[11:40] <HackerAlert> isn't default screen 1?
[11:40] <ikonia> HackerAlert: do you have multiple screens ?
[11:40] <HackerAlert> Noe
[11:40] <HackerAlert> nope*
[11:40] <Liquid> computers start with number 0
[11:40] <ikonia> screen0 is fine then
[11:40] <HackerAlert> ok
[11:40] <HackerAlert> well what could it be :(
[11:41] <ikonia> HackerAlert: many things, ati cards/drivers are a real pain as a general rule of thumb
[11:41] <ikonia> !ati >hackeralert
[11:41] <ikonia> HackerAlert: have a look at the link ubotu sent you, you have the drivers installed see if you missed any other configuration steps
[11:41] <HackerAlert> ok i'll take a look
[11:41] <HackerAlert> ah I didn't configure it at all hehe
[11:42] <HackerAlert> I thought it was just an install and use thing
[11:42] <finn> hi, will ubuntu recognize an old video card? how old?
[11:42] <ikonia> finn: if it's supported by xorg - sure
[11:42] <finn> where can I find that information?
[11:43] <ikonia> finn: what card is it ?
[11:43] <white_eagle> is there any chance to make the ubuntu background moving?
[11:43] <white_eagle> not static
[11:43] <finn> well, I'm just considering buying a card from a big box of old video cards at my local computer shop...
[11:43] <ikonia> white_eagle: you can use movie files
[11:44] <ikonia> finn: most non-nvidia/ati cards will be supported by xorg out of the box
[11:44] <ikonia> finn: assuming they are a year or two old
[11:44] <finn> ok thanks
[11:44] <finn> oh these are probably 3-5 years old
[11:44] <ikonia> you'll be fine, just don't expect to run compiz desktop effects
[11:44] <finn> no no this is only to use for a server
[11:45] <Buiss> how to put a video on background wit compiz fusion?
[11:45] <ikonia> finn: as a vga card prety much any will worg
[11:45] <ikonia> work
[11:45] <finn> thanks
[11:46] <KenSentMe> Can i install packages like build essential on a live cd?
[11:46] <ikonia> KenSentMe: you can but you'll need to re-install each time you reboot
[11:46] <white_eagle> whre can I find nautilius scripts?
[11:47] <KenSentMe> ikonia, i have to test some webcam driver on hardy so i try to do it from live cd, but i guess my ram is the limit for the size of packages i can install
[11:47] <ikonia> KenSentMe: well yes that will limit it, are you getting an error on install ?
[11:48] <ikonia> white_eagle: nautilius is a file manager ? what do you mean by scripts
[11:48] <KenSentMe> ikonia, no, i'm still downloading the iso but i want to make sure it will work
[11:49] <Sonja> i can't play a midi file in any program. halp!
[11:49] <HackerAlert> Time to restart to see if this driver works
[11:49] <Crazy181> Hi guys i have just reinstalled ubuntu and an still having the same issue that i was having earlier of the pc locking up when i have the appearance effects turned upto extra
[11:50] <Crazy181> or normal for that matter
[11:50] <KenSentMe> Sonja, i think rosegarden is for making midi files, but i think that is a bit too much for just playing midi files
[11:51] <MrSmurfing> Lost power at my NOC
[11:51] <Sonja> i opened the midi in rosegarden and clicked play but i heard nothing
[11:51] <Crazy181> any ideas as to what the cause may be?
[11:55] <anaya> killeranaya@gmail.com
[11:55] <KenSentMe> Sonja, but rosegarden starts playing the song?
[11:56] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:56] <Crazy181> Hey guys my ubuntu locks up when my appearance details are turned upto extra, any ideas?
[11:56] <Buyydee> i downloaded some ttf fonts. these seem to use some kind of write-combining, i.e. 'ti' or 'me' etc are combined or far apart. is there a possibility to disable this feature?
[11:56] <anaya> this is a new proyect
[11:56] <anaya> este es un nuevo proyecto
[11:56] <Johnny_5> passwd
[11:56] <anaya> entren porfavor :D
[11:56] <anaya> grecias
[11:56] <anaya> thanks
[11:56] <Sonja> KenSentMe yes it shows as if it' splaying the song but no audio comes out.
[11:57] <anaya> killeranaya@gmail.com
[11:57] <Sonja> otherwise my audio is fine on ubuntu
[11:57] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:57] <anaya> Icecast & Shoutcast
[11:57] <anaya> http://djraptor.myftp.org
[11:57] <anaya> in GNU/Linux
[11:58] <KenSentMe> Sonja, hmm then it's not a problem with the midi, but with rosegarden. I dont have a solution, but maybe you can refrase your question so people will more likely know an answer
[11:58] <Sonja> i can't open the midi in any of my other audio playres though
[11:58] <Buyydee> anaya: esto es un canal de soporte, sea tranquila por favor
[11:58] <Sonja> xmms, exaile, totem, nothing
[12:00] <KenSentMe> Sonja, totem doesnt play my midi file too, so i guess it doesnt support midi
[12:00] <HackerAlert> dammit
[12:00] <oxygen> if i use ubuntu so can i use fedora fonts?
[12:00] <HackerAlert> now theres no xorg.conf file, it just disappeared
[12:01] <HackerAlert> brb 30 mins guys, if anyone knows anything about ati driver thing please PM me. I really need to enable it
[12:01] <wols> HackerAlert: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:01] <HackerAlert> ok i'll do that when I get back, I really gotta go
[12:01] <HackerAlert> thanks for help :)
[12:01] <HackerAlert> Also now its not in use, but i cant disable it, because it cant find the conf file, I assume that command will work, will try it when i get back
[12:01] <HackerAlert> thank you
[12:03] <ubuser> hi all
[12:04] <t-Omicr0n> hi ubuser
[12:04] <ubuser>  who can explain me why cant I share folders wich dont belong to /home directory?
[12:04] <ubuser>  i use ubuntu
[12:04] <ubuser>  gutsy
[12:04] <Sonja> i tried opening the midi file with kmid but i still get no audio
[12:04] <Sonja> i prolly have to set something up somewhere
[12:04] <junkiee> is there a networking channel?
[12:04] <wols> #network
[12:04] <Jordan_U> Sonja, Have you tried timidity?
[12:05] <Johnny_5> say i don't remember my registered password for irc...how would i go about changing it so i can register so it'll leave me the heck alone about it?
[12:05] <quinton_> I have been having the trouble when I turn on and play any songs on my 5.1 speakers not nearly all of them play... I think it might only be one speaker even, I have turned ALL ports on alsa mixer up and have seen no difference
[12:05] <Johnny_5> just curious...
[12:05] <Sonja> Jordan_U not yet. let me try
[12:05] <junkiee> wols thanks but its not very helpful
[12:06] <wols> maybe #networking, dunno remember too well
[12:06] <junkiee> wols thats it =)
[12:06] <vreer> hi
[12:07] <ubuser> does nobody can help me pls?
[12:07] <vreer> i appear to encounter a strange problem with grub/booting
[12:07] <Sonja> Jordan_U timidity worked!!!! <3 <3
[12:07] <vreer> i want to boot into the xen kernel (wich is correctly installed)
[12:07] <kane77> hi.. is there any console bittorent client that needs no installing (is shipped in binary)?
[12:07] <mhrnjad> ubuser: what's your problem?
[12:07] <Jordan_U> Sonja, :)
[12:07] <vreer> it is mentioned in grub/menu.st; but does not appear in the list when booting
[12:08] <Jordan_U> vreer, Can you pastebin your menu.lst ?
[12:08] <mhrnjad> vreer: did you change menu.lst recently?
[12:08] <vreer> so effectively i cannot boot into my xen-kernel
[12:08] <Buyydee> kane77: rtorrent comes from the universe depositories and is installed without you having to do anything
[12:08] <vreer> mhrnjad: yes i did, and saved it
[12:08] <ubuser> mhrnjad: hi wanna share my folder with a windows pc using samba ... but i can share /home directory only ... all the other folders, which belongs to sda1 hda1 for example, can't be shared
[12:09] <vreer> Jordan_U: whereto?
[12:09] <quinton_> I have been having the trouble when I turn on and play any songs on my 5.1 speakers not nearly all of them play... I think it might only be one speaker even, I have turned ALL ports on alsa mixer up and have seen no difference
[12:09] <kane77> Buyydee, well, but I want to use it on my hosting and I don't have root access there... therefore I need something that doesn't need installing
[12:09] <visual> Hello I wiped out my WIndows system which I need. When I was installing Ubuntu. My goal was to dual boot. Is there a way for me to install window back . Then I would like to properly dual boot
[12:09] <mhrnjad> vreer: apropos grub-install
[12:09] <mhrnjad> grub-install (8)     - install GRUB on your drive
[12:10] <vreer> mhrnjad: will read :)
[12:11] <ubuser> mhrnjad: may u help me?
[12:11] <mhrnjad> ubuser: sorry, I don't know enough about samba to help you ..
[12:12] <mhrnjad> ubuser: did you have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[12:12] <reverseblade> hello I am trying live CD with my asus 3fsc laptop it does boot but it freezes when gnome is starting. How can I fix ?
[12:13] <fotoflo> i have a question about the gpl:  if i am using a small bit of code (say 20 lines) from some gpl'd source, how attibutation do i have to use when i put it (javascript) on the web?
[12:13] <bidossessi> hi folks. i'm going to move a friend's computer to linux, and i was considering using ubuntu. does the cd come with a preinstalled dsl client?
[12:13] <francesco> Hello, guys! If this is a help channel, I have a question for you. When I install Ubuntu, Ubuntu has already a username called 'root', but I don't know its password. How can I log in as root?
[12:13] <ubuser> mhrnjad: yes i did
[12:13] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | vreer
[12:13] <ubotu> vreer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <fotoflo> frederico: root login is turned off by default in ubuntu
[12:14] <fotoflo> try sudo -i if you want a root shell
[12:14] <arsovik> francesco: you may use "sudo x" to execute command x with root permissions
[12:14] <Jordan_U> reverseblade, Can you get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[12:14] <Jordan_U> !root | francesco
[12:14] <ubotu> francesco: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:14] <reverseblade> Jordan_U, no mouse freezes even alt prtscreen + REISUB does not work
[12:14] <francesco> fotoflo, arsovik: So the root 'namespace' is 'fictional', right?
[12:15] <fotoflo> francesco: no
[12:15] <fotoflo> franscio: i beleive you can also edit your passwd file or /etc/sudoers if you want to allow root logins
[12:15] <fotoflo> anyone know anything about the GPL?
[12:15] <Jordan_U> francesco, All that is disabled is logging in as root, the account still exists as normal, if you set a password for it ( which you should NOT do ) you will be able to login as root
[12:16] <Jordan_U> !anyone | fotoflo
[12:16] <ubotu> fotoflo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:16] <bidossessi> is there a preinstalled dsl client in ubuntu ?
[12:16] <fotoflo> Jordan_U: already asked my question
[12:16] <fotoflo> i have a question about the gpl:  if i am using a small bit of code (say 20 lines) from some gpl'd source, how attibutation do i have to use when i put it (javascript) on the web?
[12:16] <|ns|nR8> bidossessi usb adsl modem ?
[12:16] <marxx> ciao
[12:17] <francesco> Who can set root's password?
[12:17] <|ns|nR8> or ethernet ?
[12:17] <marxx> !list
[12:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:17] <ikonia> fotoflo: ubuntu is not "the" gpl
[12:17] <TheMafia> Anyone know of a project that is a database of servers and can track changes, updates, anything done to them?
[12:17] <ikonia> fotoflo: join / ask in somewhere with specific knowledge of the gpl
[12:17] <|ns|nR8> francesco you dont need to use root account
[12:17] <|ns|nR8> you can set a root password but there is no need
[12:17] <|ns|nR8> its actuaslly security risk
[12:17] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, not usb, but i still need to provide a username/password to get connect. huawei
[12:17] <bidossessi> connected*
[12:18] <|ns|nR8> if its not usb, the username and password is stored in the modem
[12:18] <francesco> Guys, I know that I don't 'need' to set the root account, but for protection, who can set the root password?
[12:18] <|ns|nR8> usuaLLY
[12:18] <Jordan_U> fotoflo, #gnu also http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[12:18] <Jordan_U> francesco, Protection from what?
[12:18] <|ns|nR8> on windows do you have to hit 'connect' bidossessi, or is just connected when you start windows ?
[12:18] <ikonia> francesco: if you can't answer that question yourself you should not set the root password
[12:18] <Jowi_n1> francesco, any user account that can sudo can set the root password
[12:19] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, i catually use opensuse. but i have to launch kinternet
[12:19] <|ns|nR8> ah ok
[12:19] <francesco> Jowi_n1: Then, only the administrator can set the root password, right?
[12:19] <Jowi_n1> francesco, so only let trusted users get sudo. yes, the admin can set it.
[12:19] <|ns|nR8> you can just use ppp dialer bidossessi
[12:19] <|ns|nR8> and specify the modem as your adsl modem
[12:20] <|ns|nR8> thats using a usb modem
[12:20] <Jowi_n1> francesco, the link that Ubotu gave have good info ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo )
[12:20] <Smegzor> I found out whats causing my computer to freeze during network file copies - NFS.  I did the same copy through an SMB share and it worked although it took an extra 12 minutes.  Are NFS shares prone to problems in Ubuntu or linux generally?
[12:20] <|ns|nR8> ive never used or seen a ethernet adsl modem that aint a nat router aswell
[12:20] <bidossessi> is it preinstalled? on opensuse i had a hen/egg problem whereby i had to download the ppp dialer (:P)
[12:20] <francesco> If root is a username just like the others, doesn't it have a password for default?
[12:20] <beertank> erver irc.eternal-r0x.net
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> francesco to set root password type sudo passwd root
[12:21] <francesco> |ns|nR8: Does it have anyway as default?
[12:21] <Smegzor> |ns|nR8: I have one.  Its only got 1 plug for 1 pc.
[12:21] <|ns|nR8> ethernet Smegzor?
[12:22] <|ns|nR8> or usb
[12:22] <wols> |ns|nR8: there are tons of those
[12:22] <Smegzor> |ns|nR8: I never use it though.  Well its an adsl modem (cheap and nasty)
[12:22] <wols> and yes, ethernet
[12:22] <Smegzor> it connects via USB
[12:22] <|ns|nR8> yeah there are tons of usb ones wols
[12:22] <|ns|nR8> but not ethernet
[12:22] <wols> before wlan routers were common, the adsl modems were the normal devices you got from ISPs
[12:22] <francesco> Can a normal user 'guess' the root password, if it exists, anyway, ad default?
[12:22] <|ns|nR8> that aint a router aswell
[12:22] <wols> noflex: no ethernet ones
[12:23] <simNIX> says hi
[12:23] <|ns|nR8> francesco there is no root password set by default
[12:23] <Karyom> Hello, how can I administrate the Samba Server under Gnome?
[12:23] <francesco> Ok.
[12:23] <|ns|nR8> yeah thats what im sayikng
[12:23] <|ns|nR8> ethernet and not a nat router ??? lol strange...
[12:23] <KenSentMe> Can i compile the hardy kernel for my gutsy system for testing a driver on the newer kernel?
[12:23] <aricz_> larry laffer huh!
[12:23] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, It'd be easier to just use a LiveCD :)
[12:23] <vreer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50588/
[12:24] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, but i'm affraid i need more packages then my ram can handle
[12:24] <francesco> Thank you very much guys!
[12:24] <francesco> Good bye!
[12:24] <Smegzor> Has anyone else had trouble with large network copies (multiple gigs) over NFS? I can't use it unless I like constant hard resets.
[12:25] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, Ahh, what exactly are you trying to test?
[12:25] <Karyom> Is there a Terminal Command to admin the SMB Server maybe with a GUI?
[12:25] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, a webcam driver https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4698310
[12:25] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, ok, point me in the right direction. assuming i've booted into the live cd and i have a live ethernet connection to the modem; where do i find the dialer in ubuntu
[12:25] <Karyom> like in KDE?
[12:25] <Smegzor> There is a web gui for managing Samba
[12:25] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, i need to have build essential, v4l and a webcam app
[12:26] <Karyom> is there no program with GUI for it in Gnome?
[12:26] <Pici> Karyom: No.
[12:26] <Jordan_U> !kernel | KenSentMe
[12:26] <ubotu> KenSentMe: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[12:26] <|ns|nR8> bidossessi does your modem have its own ip ?
[12:26] <Karyom> mmh okay...what is the port for the webgui?
[12:26] <|ns|nR8> LAN ip ?
[12:27] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, I would go with a vanilla kernel of exactly the version he is suggesting be used rather than the hardy kernel
[12:27] <|ns|nR8> eg 192.168.1.1
[12:27] <Smegzor> 10000
[12:27] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, yes. it does dhcp
[12:27] <|ns|nR8> then it is a nat router bidossessi
[12:27] <Pici> Karyom: There is SWAT for administrating Samba via a web gui.
[12:27] <Smegzor> .. but you'll need to install the web gui first.
[12:27] <wols> bidossessi: then there is no dialer
[12:27] <|ns|nR8> cheers wols
[12:27] <wols> bidossessi: none needed
[12:27] <bidossessi> but i still have to key in a pass to get online
[12:27] <|ns|nR8> sounds strange
[12:28] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, well, he mentions to use A rc kernel, so all versions should work
[12:28] <|ns|nR8> ok
[12:28] <wols> bidossessi: doesn't jive with getting a private IP
[12:28] <|ns|nR8> in terminal, find out your machines ip address
[12:28] <|ns|nR8> um
[12:28] <simNIX> Karyom: thereś also a webmin module for Samba if im not mistaken
[12:28] <|ns|nR8> ifconfig eth0
[12:28] <Smegzor> Webmin is what I use.
[12:28] <simNIX> prefers console
[12:28] <|ns|nR8> bidossessi i think i used kppp
[12:28] <Karyom> thanks I take a look
[12:28] <wols> Smegzor: not good
[12:29] <bidossessi> because what happens is that i do get a live connection to the modem, but i can only browse with the dsl0 that the ppp client gives me. the modem doesn't seem to want to proxy for me
[12:29] <|ns|nR8> im on windows atm cause im stuck at my girlfriends place
[12:29] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, i had already found the wiki page in the ubotu message, but it only mentions compile the kernel for the current version you are using, not some other
[12:29] <Smegzor> wols, its not public (behind hardware firewall - external router) with no pinhole to it.
[12:29] <Smegzor> and its not listening to public ip's
[12:30] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, or do i have to download the packages manually
[12:30] <|ns|nR8> bidossessi in synaptic search for ppp
[12:31] <Pici> !ppp
[12:31] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[12:31] <|ns|nR8> dunno how the modem device set to eth0 will behave
[12:32] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, there you hit the crux of my problem. i need a dialer to get online!
[12:32] <|ns|nR8> search for ppp then
[12:32] <|ns|nR8> in synaptic
[12:32] <|ns|nR8> i think i used kppp
[12:32] <|ns|nR8> have a look
[12:32] <|ns|nR8> im on windows, so i cant look myself
[12:33] <bidossessi> synaptic? sorry, not at all familiar with that term. is that the package manager?
[12:33] <|ns|nR8> yep, its in one of the menu's
[12:33] <bidossessi> ok, because i need to make sure i have all i need to get online already on the cd before i commit my friend's pc to it
[12:34] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, maybe it's easier to install ubuntu on a external hd or sd card
[12:34] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, so green means it's installed, right.
[12:34] <panoman> just upgraded to 7.10 and now the highest resolution my monitor will go is 800x600
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> yep
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> panoman gotta hate that
[12:35] <panoman> yep
[12:35] <panoman> now what
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> you have to specify a montitor type i believe in xorg.conf
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> sorry
[12:35] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, It's a good experience to have if you like that sort of thing, but if you don't know what you are doing you could break your current install
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> specify a monitor range
[12:35] <bidossessi> did i mention that it was pppoe i use? i see a pppoeconf there. maybe that could help
[12:35] <|ns|nR8> so it knows yoiur monitor can go higher
[12:36] <wols> panoman: what vide driver do you use right now?
[12:36] <Pici> panoman: just run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh`
[12:36] <Pici> panoman: or listen to wols first ;)
[12:36] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, are you referring to the custom kernel build or installing on a flash driver?
[12:36] <wols> bidossessi: it does. but if you use pppoeconf you don't use DHCP
[12:36] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, driver=drive
[12:36] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, Custom kernel
[12:36] <|ns|nR8> lol KenSentMe, cool nick
[12:36] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, i know, that's why i'm looking for alternatives
[12:36] <|ns|nR8> i know where that comes from
[12:37] <KenSentMe> |ns|nR8, :D
[12:37] <m1r0> hello
[12:38] <visual> Hello I have another question
[12:38] <panoman> I dont know what driver I am somewhat new
[12:38] <vreer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50588/ solved
[12:38] <wols> panoman: grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:38] <panoman> how do I find out
[12:39] <visual> Hello I have another question. Is there a way for me to access fdisk in Ubuntu
[12:39] <visual> I tried Windowes
[12:39] <bidossessi> |ns|nR8, i need to remove a totally virus-ridden windows system, and i thought it would be a good idea to set ubuntu in it's place, but since i'm an opensuser, i had to check. opensuse was a non-starter for this machine: not enough ram to even start the OS installer (128)
[12:39] <panoman> did grep and it said ati
[12:39] <visual> Microsoft Method it did not work
[12:40] <panoman> the machine is a HP pavilion 5500
[12:41] <Pelle_A> Hej/Hi
[12:41] <s0laris> hi
[12:41] <JC_Denton_> Can you install Ubuntu from a USB stick if the machine allows booting from USB? if so, how?
[12:41] <dgjones> !install | JC_Denton_ Ubotu has a link for install from USB
[12:41] <ubotu> JC_Denton_ Ubotu has a link for install from USB: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:41] <wols> bidossessi: I wouldn't use ubuntu either on it. use xubuntu or fluxbuntu
[12:41] <JC_Denton_> dgjones, thanks
[12:42] <bidossessi> wols, why not? is 128 too low? is there an xfce ubuntu instead?
[12:42] <dgjones> !xubuntu | bidossessi
[12:42] <ubotu> bidossessi: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:42] <Jowi_n1> bidossessi, (this one's for you) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[12:43] <bidossessi> thx folks
[12:43] <panoman> 7.4 worked just fine on my machine dang
[12:43] <bidossessi> i'm check this out for now
[12:43] <m1r0> could someone recomend fully supported laser color printer/scanner for ubuntu ?
[12:43] <s0laris> know somebody where i must put the jakarta httpclient files to use it in my java programm?
[12:45] <KenSentMe> How big is a standard ubuntu installation?
[12:46] <|ns|nR8> about 1.2 gig
[12:46] <panoman> What does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh do
[12:46] <Jowi_n1> KenSentMe, but you need a 3G root partition to install it.
[12:47] <|ns|nR8> panoman reprobes your hardware i think
[12:47] <wols> it configures X panoman
[12:47] <Moniker42> panoman, i don't know what the -phigh option does but it will reconfigure your X server and present you with lots of questions that can be ignored unless there's something specific you want to change
[12:47] <Moniker42> panoman, for example X doesn't detect my monitor's resolution automatically so i have to run that and skip everything except the resolution section
[12:48] <panoman> it will go higher but bad flicker like wrong freq
[12:49] <|ns|nR8> i have to run my crt monitors at, at least 85hz
[12:49] <Pici> Moniker42: -phigh just asks you high priority questions, which turn out to be only video related things iirc.
[12:49] <|ns|nR8> or it has unbareable flicker
[12:52] <HackerAlert> Thank you so much to the person who helped me
[12:52] <HackerAlert> sorry I restarted computer so I don't know who that was
[12:52] <HackerAlert> ATi drivers now work! :)
[12:52] <aro> What's the normal amount of space to create for a /boot partition?
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> 120mbytes
[12:53] <tuntun_> whats the equivalent of ctrl-alt-del?
[12:53] <panoman> when it gets to monitor it says generic
[12:55] <ccooke> tuntun_: which purpose of ctrl-alt-delete do you need? It has several in Windows.
[12:56] <tuntun_> ccooke: to kill a process asap.
[12:56] <|ns|nR8> there is some way to get system monitor to open
[12:57] <ronnie> crekarasu: @@
[12:57] <panoman> no luck on the monitor issue
[12:57] <|ns|nR8> tuntun_ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19234
[12:58] <platius> panoman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  you might look here
[12:58] <panoman> I changed the resolution and still flicker
[12:58] <|ns|nR8> panoman you must up the refresh rate aswell
[12:58] <panoman> thanks for the link will checkit out
[12:58] <|ns|nR8> try 85hz if you have a 17inch crt or bigger
[12:59] <|ns|nR8> flicker is caused by refresh rate, not resolution
[12:59] <panoman> its a laptop hp pavilion ze5500
[12:59] <panoman> and it worked with 7.4
[12:59] <|ns|nR8> LCD shouldnt flicker
[12:59] <|ns|nR8> anyway, got a hot chick waiting in bed for me
[12:59] <|ns|nR8> night guys
[13:00] <zafer__> is there any way to install mysql 4.1 via apt-get on ubuntu ?
[13:00] <Codenut> Hi everyone!
[13:00] <nomic> I have an NVIDIA GEFORCE 7300 GT graphics card and the restricted drivers don't work ... I am thinking of going back to the shop what other brand of graphics card should I choose for best compatibility with UBUNTU? please3
[13:00] <nomic> I.e. what is the best guaranty of compatibility for a brand of graphics card on ubuntu
[13:00] <murf3326> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10.  When I shutdown my monitors and PC power-down ok, but my USB devices remain powered. (my Logitech G15 Keyboard remains fully lit).  I Googled and found a couple of older Ubuntu/Linux bugs for USB devices remaining powered after shutdown.  Anyone know if there is a fix available for this problem?
[13:00] <Jordan_U> nomic, Intel integrated
[13:00] <tonyyarusso> nomic: Intel has open source drivers :)
[13:00] <ciro> ciao
[13:01] <Sonja> how to convert .wma to .ogg ??
[13:01] <nomic> intel is a brand of graphics card?
[13:01] <nomic> ok
[13:01] <nomic> I need an AGP card though
[13:01] <ubuser> who can explain me how to share folder which dont belong to home dir using samba?
[13:01] <tonyyarusso> Sonja: oggconvert (with w32 codecs) can probably do it
[13:01] <JC_Denton_> does intel provide drivers for its laptop onboard cards so I can finally use my tv out
[13:01] <Jordan_U> nomic, Nvidia is pretty good as long as the card is a little more than 6 months old ( or any nvidia card if you are willing to install the drivers from nvidia.com directly )
[13:01] <xobius> Sonja, perhaps konverter do it
[13:02] <nomic> jordan I am having problems specificially with an NVIDIA card I want to move away from that
[13:02] <Jordan_U> JC_Denton_, You sure you aren't thinking of ATI, I didn't think intel cards had such problems
[13:03] <panoman> trying the change monitor sujestion
[13:03] <panoman> back in a few
[13:03] <JC_Denton_> Never found any drivers for my onboard...
[13:03] <Jordan_U> nomic, There isn't really any better brand ( other than intel, which I understand is not an option ), just try an older card
[13:03] <JC_Denton_> I'll investigate it again soon enough
[13:03] <Jordan_U> nomic, Or install the newest nvidia drivers with the current card
[13:03] <JC_Denton_> what command tells me the onboard card details?
[13:05] <Aishiko> grep JC_Denton_
[13:06] <JC_Denton_> Aishiko I'm sure your efforts are genuine but grep won't help me much..
[13:06] <JC_Denton_> not just grep anyhow...
[13:07] <Pici> JC_Denton_: `sudo lshw` will give you a rundown of all your hardware
[13:07] <JC_Denton_> Pici thanks
[13:09] <panoman> well changing the monitor to lcd didnt work I will check out the url that was given thanks its 5 am and I have to get some sleep before work
[13:09] <panoman> i wish I didnt upgrade to 7.10
[13:09] <christ__> hallo
[13:09] <ninja_ubuntu> madonna quanti -.-
[13:10] <ChrisGibbs> gday
[13:10] <ninja_ubuntu> italian?
[13:10] <Pici> !it | ninja_ubuntu
[13:10] <ubotu> ninja_ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:10] <ninja_ubuntu> ok grazie a voi
[13:10] <ninja_ubuntu> ;)
[13:11] <christ__> hallo
[13:11] <panoman> bye
[13:14] <uruca> hello something who knows gnu ddrescue?
[13:15] <tuntun> whats the best/fastest way to kill a hung proccess?
[13:15] <Biohazard> tuntun: kill -9 PID
[13:17] <tuntun> Biohazard, eg firefox freezing, mouse cursor barely responding, what is the best way to kill it?
[13:18] <Biohazard> tuntun: pkill firefox-bin works fine ;)
[13:19] <Biohazard> tuntun: but you can of course use: ps aux to search the specific PID of firefox to kill it
[13:19] <tuntun> Biohazard, the point is that response is so low that i cant even open a terminal
[13:19] <tuntun> Biohazard, what then?
[13:19] <Biohazard> tuntun: can you access the native console via ctrl + alt + F1?
[13:22] <adem> hi
[13:22] <Avid> i am having an issue troubleshooting a crash with v7.10 on a ibm thinkpad z60.  It is a random crash and i have no option to force a power down, can anyone share some light? - i have checked the forums but don't seem to have any luck, nor does this happen on other dists
[13:22] <adem> help me pls..
[13:22] <S4nD3r> how to setup init levels in ubuntu?? Theres no inittab file
[13:22] <hvesalai> hello everybody. I have a question about wlan. The problem is that after some time, it stops working. /etc/init.d/networking restart fixes it, but is there some way of finding out why it stops working and fixing it so that I don't have to take manual action
[13:22] <_mug_> Avid: kepp the powerbutton pressed
[13:22] <hvesalai> I'm already thinking about a script consisting of cron, ping and networking, but I don't think that is the correct way
[13:23] <_mug_> Avid: or unplug and remove the battery
[13:23] <_mug_> on own risk :P
[13:23] <S4nD3r> ??
[13:23] <Avid> _mug_: That's what I am forced to do, but I don't know what is causing it to crash - only seems to be with ubuntu
[13:24] <_mug_> Avid: what kind of video adapter do you have?
[13:24] <flamsmark_> hey, after i repartitioned my system disk, my swap partition isn't being used at startup. how can i tell ubuntu to use it?
[13:24] <S4nD3r> Id like to use ubuntu in text level...
[13:24] <S4nD3r> but theres no inittab file
[13:24] <_mug_> S4nD3r: ctrl+alt+F2
[13:24] <Avid> _mug_: Ati - can't remember model from top of my head x300 or 600 perhaps
[13:24] <adem> guys
[13:24] <adem> is there  online any people
[13:24] <_mug_> Avid: are you running the restricted drivers?
[13:25] <S4nD3r> _mug_: Id like to setup to run only in text level
[13:25] <_mug_> Avid: system->admin->restricted drivers
[13:26] <Avid> _mug_: if it is part of default installation yes, otherwise no (not currently running under ubuntu) - is there something related to Ati that is causing these crashes, can't ctrl-alt etc out or anything
[13:27] <S4nD3r> ubuntu theres no inittab file, how to setup runlevels ?
[13:27] <Pici> !boot | S4nD3r
[13:27] <ubotu> S4nD3r: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[13:27] <Pici> !upstart | S4nD3r
[13:27] <ubotu> S4nD3r: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[13:27] <_mug_> Avid: yap i had the same problem. i didnt use the restricted drivers and my box crashed. most times when surfing. not even numlock worked. switching to the restricted drivers solved that problem
[13:28] <pepepe> y en español no hay nadie
[13:28] <abhi_> how do i change environment variables in my shell?
[13:28] <Codenut> How much luck do people have installing Ubuntu on an AMD 1.2ghz machine do people have?
[13:29] <Avid> _mug_: i'll re-install and give it a try, thx for your replies :) fingers crossed - did you find any details as to why or just a solution for it? :)
[13:29] <Codenut> Do all programs run on the AMD platform?
[13:29] <flamsmark_> where can i find the latest driver for the Intel 940GML gpu?
[13:29] <_mug_> Avid: no details :P
[13:29] <iclebyte_> Codenut, it'll be fine..
[13:30] <Avid> _mug_: hehe - i'll give it a go anyway
[13:30] <Codenut> msg/ iclebyte so it is seamlessJ?
[13:30] <S4nD3r> strange
[13:31] <iclebyte> Codenut, why wouldnt it work?... try it and see dude
[13:31] <abhi_> i want to change the $PATH in my environment and i want it to be permanent
[13:31] <abhi_> how do i do it?
[13:31] <_mug> test
[13:31] <_mug_> test
[13:31] <_mug_> doah
[13:31] <iclebyte> abhi_, read /etc/profile
[13:32] <splitter> hey people. im having some problems to get ubuntu to work on the resolution i want it to (namely, 1280x1024) on a box with a  3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X... it wont go over 800x600px. my xorg.conf (as generated by dpkg-reconfigure) is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50590/
[13:32] <iclebyte> its in there the line that says PATH= each entry is seperated by a ' : '
[13:32] <splitter> using the "ati" driver module, of course.
[13:32] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, i tried using the live cd for testing the webcam driver and it worked. Thanks for your help
[13:32] <S4nD3r> is possible to setup ubuntu to startup in text mode??
[13:33] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, np
[13:33] <abhi_> how do i change $PATH to something i want?
[13:33] <Jordan_U> !boot | S4nD3r
[13:33] <abhi_> there is a command for doing that
[13:33] <abhi_> just can't remember
[13:33] <ubotu> S4nD3r: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[13:33] <Jordan_U> abhi_, export
[13:33] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, but where are all the downloaded packages saved. I dont have that much ram
[13:33] <abhi_> Jordan_U: but that is temporary
[13:33] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, Do you have a swap partition?
[13:33] <iclebyte> abhi_, i just told you, /etc/profile
[13:33] <abhi_> Jordan_U: it goes away once u kill that shell
[13:34] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, on the internal hd. Does the livecd use that?
[13:34] <abhi_> iclebyte: how about adding it to bash.bashrc?
[13:34] <robertj_> does anyone have a bug # handy for the nvidia 8600 series redraw problems?
[13:34] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, I think so, I'm not sure though
[13:34] <Leechzilla> I put a DVD into my drive and though it says 3.8GB is used on the disc, it's not showing any files.. The same disc shows its contents properly in VMware though.. How do I fix this?
[13:34] <iclebyte> abhi_, yea you can do it that way but then the path is only available for that specific user. if you want it system wide for every user then do it in /etc/profile
[13:35] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  you are seeing it in vmware at the same time you are looking at it with the Linux OS?
[13:35] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: Well I just booted VMware right now to check if it works in it. Before that too it wasn't showing up in Ubuntu
[13:35] <abhi_> iclebyte: ok so i add an export $PATH=mypaths1:2:3 to /etc/profile? but where is ubuntu getting the values for $PATH otherwise? i mean how is it set to a default?
[13:36] <^swb^> sup ubuntu
[13:37] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  could be it wasent getting mounted to the right place, or was not automounting.
[13:37] <iclebyte> abhi_, read the /etc/profile file, there is a line in that starts with 'PATH=' just add whatever directory to that list (seperated by ' : ')
[13:37] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: So what do I do to fix it
[13:38] <S4nD3r> I dont believe what Ive seen
[13:38] <S4nD3r> ubuntu change basic tools of debian
[13:38] <S4nD3r> this is a shit
[13:38] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  well check with the 'mount' command to see if its mounted someplace else. if its not mounted at all. You could try mounting it manually.
[13:38] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: It's already mounted
[13:38] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  so wher does the mount command say its mounted to?
[13:39] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: /media/cdrom0
[13:39] <Guilty1> i can't download any thing using bittorrent :S any ideas
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  so you dont see any files in /media/cdrom0 eh?
[13:39] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: yeah
[13:39] <chraso> hello chennal
[13:39] <abhi_> iclebyte: there's nothing to do with path in /etc/profile. i think i'll have to manually add an export? right?
[13:40] <littlebear72> ok im no rocket scientist . but im also no dummy i can get 3d workign on my desktop but i cant get flash player working what am i doing wrong i checked the web for the last 3 hours i have 2 sets of hardware here and both are running flash player non free from ubuntu's repository and i still cant get either of them to run flash player in firefox or opera one has opera and the newest install has firefox . i sort of expected firefox and the 7.10 install
[13:40] <littlebear72> to run flash perfectly but it did not . what am i missing ?
[13:40] <Jordan_U> !flash | littlebear72
[13:40] <ubotu> littlebear72: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:40] <BB88> Hello. Does anybody know why I cannot open folders after a period of time on Ubuntu 7.10. I get something like "unable to display contents of folder", and then my desktop has that little egg timer, every now and then?
[13:41] <chraso> can i know if i can install ubuntu 7.10 on a free space(not on any present partition but on the disk space)
[13:41] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  interesting... try a 'sudo ls -l /media/cdrom0' perhaps? it may be mounted owned by root. Other then that. Id say unmount it.. and try remounting the cd.
[13:41] <Jordan_U> chraso, There is an option specifically for doing that in the installer
[13:41] <chraso> if yes how do i?
[13:41] <student> I have flashplugin-nonfree installed but I still can't view any flash items in firefox...it tells me that the plugin is still missing
[13:42] <v3ctor> student: did you restart firefox?
[13:42] <student> v3ctor, yes
[13:42] <chraso> may i know what is it?
[13:42] <Jordan_U> !flash | student v3ctor
[13:42] <ubotu> student v3ctor: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:42] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: sudo ls -l /media/cdrom0 says total 0. I tried unmounting but it says the device is busy
[13:42]  * v3ctor knows how to install flash 
[13:42] <dusty-sts> what piece of software can I use to create a bootable .iso in linux?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  well if vmware is stillrunning. it may some how have it locked.
[13:43] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: No it isn't
[13:43] <littlebear72> thanks Jordan_U ill go play with that
[13:43] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  be sure ya got no terminals cd'd to it?  I forget the command now to see what may have it being accessed.. lsof /dev/cdrom perhaps.
[13:43] <chraso> Jordan_U, may i know how to?
[13:43] <robdeman> hey all.. dovecot pop3 doesnt show any new mail. But when I use Webmin -> Read User mail there IS new mail... any idea why?
[13:44] <gsevil> ubuntu recognize my wireless card, but I can't turn it on, can u help me?
[13:44] <sidelil> excuse me, I'd like to install MythTV on my PC in order to have a media centre. I don't know how to choose either a frontend or a backend installation. Can anyone help me?
[13:44] <Jordan_U> chraso, Have you tried the installer yet? It's pretty strait foreword
[13:44] <wols> robdeman: is the mail in /var/mail/<user>=
[13:44] <wols> ?
[13:44] <wols> sidelil: mythtv needs both
[13:44] <t-om> gsevil, look for a switch or button to turn the wireless radio on in the case of the computer
[13:44] <robdeman> wols: no it seems to be in ~user/Maildir
[13:44] <Leechzilla> Dr_willis: Thanks, that command helped me fix it.
[13:45] <wols> gsevil: what card is it?
[13:45] <wols> gsevil: rather, what chip?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> Leechzilla,  heh - what command? lsof? that sould of just read who is using the device.. it shouldent of fixed anything. :) Or was it magic! :)
[13:47] <Sergemine> Guys. Looks like my ubuntu system stopped working with fixed IP after system update. Anyone heard of this problem ???
[13:48] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  defind 'stopped working' :)
[13:48] <gsevil> t-om: I push the button, but it didn't turn on, it's run normal in windows
[13:48] <student> Jordan_U, I'm trying to install swf-player (since the adobe one isn't working) and I get: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:48] <student>   swf-player: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.10.3) but it is not going to be installed
[13:48] <student> E: Broken packages
[13:48] <Pici> !paste | student
[13:48] <ubotu> student: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:48] <hvesalai> can anyone help with wlan?
[13:48] <netzmeister> !ask | hvesalai
[13:48] <ubotu> hvesalai: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:48] <sidelil> wols: sorry, I can't understand. In the wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy they say you have to choose. I think I need a regular desktop & something between frontend and backend. This is what I understood.
[13:49] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, ""Network is unreachable"" iswhat I get when tring to ping computers (when set to use fixed IP)
[13:49] <hvesalai> ubotu: hmm... you a bot? I already asked the question some time ago
[13:49] <Jordan_U> student, I would just install the non-free flash plugin for FF
[13:49] <hvesalai> hello everybody. I have a question about wlan. The problem is that after some time, it stops working. /etc/init.d/networking restart fixes it, but is there some way of finding out why it stops working and fixing it so that I don't have to take manual action
[13:49] <Pici> hvesalai: Yes, ubotu is a bot.
[13:49] <olskolirc> is there a way I can change my username and still keep my actual account?
[13:49] <chintan> sorry chennal i was disconnect
[13:49] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  try pinging them by ip? or by name?
[13:49] <student> Jordan_U, I did but it's not working with firefox
[13:49] <chintan> ed
[13:49] <cerpin> i configured eth0 network interface with static ip but everytime i try to reach the ip it throws me to localhost webinterface instead router configurationmenu. what am i doing wrong?
[13:49] <chintan> Jordan_U, can help
[13:49] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, either
[13:49] <Guilty1>  i wanna download unbuntu linux but ma download is so slow and i can't order it any ideas ?
[13:50] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[13:50] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, even my own
[13:50] <Jordan_U> student, Have you seen the message from ubotu about the package being broken currently?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  try pinging  72.14.207.99  and 'google.com' if Neither work. Sounds like a gateway issue. If the ip works but not the name. its a dns issue.
[13:50] <Jordan_U> Guilty1, Why can't you order it?
[13:50] <netzmeister> hvesalai: /var/log/syslog  ./message ?
[13:50] <olskolirc> is there a way I can change my username and still keep my actual account?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  even your own local lan eh?  Sounding more like a gateway issue.
[13:50] <student> Jordan_U, no..
[13:50] <Jordan_U> !flash | student
[13:50] <ubotu> student: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:51] <Guilty1> Jordan_U coz i live in lebanon in an unkown place they will not know how to transfere it to me :S so any ideas
[13:51] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  you mean your linux user? You could make a new user, then copy the other users file over to the new ones home dir. and chown the files.  BUT your first initial Ubuntu user is the one that has sudo rights by default.
[13:51] <Tetracomm> I installed Windows XP, then Ubuntu afterwards. When I tried to boot into XP after installing Ubuntu, it said: "Error 12: Invalid device request.".
[13:51] <Tetracomm> Help?
[13:52] <Guilty1> so Jordan_U ??
[13:52] <olskolirc> oh ok Dr_willis never mind then thanks
[13:52] <flamsmark> i'm having some difficulty setting my screen resolution
[13:52] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, I have a dhcp server at home, so it works fine there. But no dhcp in office, have set up a fixed IP, or have system set assign it automatically when dhcp request times out. But network doesn't work at all either way
[13:52] <Jordan_U> Guilty1, Well if you can't download it and it can't be shipped then you are pretty much SOL unless you can find someone with a faster connection who can send it to you, have you actually tried to see if they can ship to where you live?
[13:52] <flamsmark> my laptop screen is natively 1280x768
[13:52] <Dr_willis> olskolirc,  its doable. :) just have to be carefull snd dont remove the first user..
[13:53] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, there isn't a gateway as far as I know
[13:53] <Jordan_U> flamsmark, What graphics card?
[13:53] <ljsmithx> pic
[13:53] <flamsmark> jordan_u intel gma 940
[13:53] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, they use only a proxy serher here
[13:53] <ircleuser> Hi guys !! Any of you guys have a VOIP at home working with Ubuntu ?
[13:53] <olskolirc> Guilty1 Dell is shipping out Ubuntu already loaded.  That's an expensive way to go but, that's another way ubuntu is available.
[13:53] <Jordan_U> flamsmark, Do you know if you are using the "intel" driver or the "i810" driver?
[13:53] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, any idea ???
[13:53] <flamsmark> i810
[13:54] <flamsmark> jordan_U i810
[13:54] <Jordan_U> olskolirc, Guilty1 I doubt Dell is shipping Ubuntu machines to Lebanon though
[13:54] <Jordan_U> flamsmark, Try the intel driver
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Sergemine, Hmm...  well normally theres still a gateway. at an ip like 192.168.1.1 or some smiler low #.  I recall an issue where the /etc/resolv.conf can get wrong dns entries. but Not sure where to trouble shoot yoru system. if its on a business network. it could be somthing odd on their end.
[13:54] <olskolirc> ohhh ok
[13:55] <flamsmark> jordan_u whe i use the intel driver, desktop effects don't work
[13:55] <student> Jordan_U, so what should I use if the nonfree isn't working?
[13:55] <flamsmark> jordan_u previously, it was working with correct resolution and desktop effects
[13:55] <flamsmark> jordan_u and i can't work out how to get it back to that
[13:55] <v3ctor> Guilty1: google for a LUG in Lebanon, see if you can find someone locally that has a copy you can use
[13:55] <Jordan_U> flamsmark, That is possibly another problem you should fix, but a work around may be to install the package '915resolution'
[13:55] <seebs> I have an ubuntu system with three ethernet cards -- built-in nforce and two 8139s.  I get unusably bad network performance from the forcedeth and the second 8139.  Just as a sanity check, are there any software-level things I should be looking at?
[13:56] <flamsmark> jordan_u what does that do?
[13:56] <littlebear72> ok Jordan_U i just got this flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version. on both systems i still cant get flash to work on either system what am i missing i just read that whole article with no joy ... any direct advice would be appreciated here im totally confused as to why or what i have missed
[13:56] <seebs> It seems very odd to me that the problem would be exactly the same on the forcedeth and the second 8139, making me suspect that it has to do with some software configuration issue, such as a firewall, that I'm not aware of.
[13:56] <wols> !flash | littlebear72
[13:56] <ubotu> littlebear72: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:56] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:56] <Jordan_U> flamsmark, I'm too tired to explain it now, but it will make your resolution work with the old driver :)
[13:56] <HackerAlert> anyone know why my left speaker only works? both used to work before..
[13:57] <HackerAlert> works fine in windows
[13:57] <flamsmark> jordan_U ok, thanks, i'll try that
[13:57] <HackerAlert> I checked audio settings, seems normal
[13:57] <gsnsr> my wireless card is broadcom, ubuntu recognize it, I see wireless connection in network setting, but I can't turn it on. I pushed the wireless button. It ran normally in windows
[13:57] <littlebear72> Jordan_U: just did that with me wols i have read that article what have i missed
[13:57] <chef_> can anyone tell me how to properly install flashplayer? synaptic and/or installing thru firefox says it's installed but won't function
[13:57] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  I thinkya need to track down someone with a bit more experience with networking, and your companys network. Id hate to give any suggestions that may mess up the network.(unlikely to happen) but it could somthing simple thats changed on the company network.
[13:57] <Jordan_U> littlebear72, You are using Ubuntu 7.10 correct?
[13:58] <chintan> hello chennal
[13:58] <student> is there an alternative flash plugin I can use?
[13:58] <littlebear72> chef_: and i have same issue lol on one i am on 7.10 its all standard install only a few hours old
[13:58] <fmanas> hi chintan
[13:58] <fmanas> studen: Install Flash manually
[13:58] <chintan> i would like to know if i can install ubuntu to a free disk space(not to a free disk space on a partition)
[13:59] <fmanas> student go to download: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[13:59] <student> fmanas, ok thanks
[13:59] <v3ctor> student: you could get the one from the adobe site and install it using thier instructions
[13:59] <chef_> fmanas: how does one do that? (install flash manually) newbie here
[13:59] <flamsmark> how can i reorder the elements on a panel?
[14:00] <snurre> i got a q.. was trying to run ubuntu from a livecd, but after the startup menu my screen just goes black and nothing more happens.. anyone know what might cause this?
[14:00] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, oh, it can barely be called a corporate network
[14:00] <littlebear72> yeah Jordan_U it is a simplistic install everything else works i have tried this on a second computer cos i got frustrated on my own system now i have my wife on a dual boot so i can figure this out
[14:00] <v3ctor> chef_: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[14:00] <chintan> anyone?
[14:00] <crush_groove> chintan partition the disk space and install
[14:00] <HackerAlert> ah these headphones are hurting my ear
[14:00] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, I have router at home which solves all issues, but they don't here
[14:00] <HackerAlert> why only left side works :(
[14:00] <littlebear72> its the only reason i have installed her sytem with ubu 7.10 to get flash player workign
[14:00] <chef_> v3ctor: ty
[14:00] <fmanas> student and chef_ once you downloaded it, You descompress it
[14:01] <gsnsr> my wireless card is broadcom, ubuntu recognize it, I see wireless connection in network setting, but I can't turn it on. I pushed the wireless button. It ran normally in windows, can u help me?
[14:01] <v3ctor> chef_: use the tar.gz and follow the instructions
[14:01] <fmanas> you know how use the terminal?
[14:01] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  i imagine they got a machine that does a similer job.  But heck. for all we know it may be crashed and needs to be reset.
[14:01] <Jordan_U> littlebear72, It is broken, it should not be expected to work. To get the newest version of flash download, double click, and install this package ( 32 bit Ubuntu 7.10 only ): http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu0.deb
[14:01] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, Thank you very much any way. I tend to think it is an ubuntu problem simmilar to that with xserver update so time before
[14:01] <chintan> which type ubuntu installs on ext3?
[14:01] <fmanas> Better, you've an .deb package of Flash plugin
[14:02] <chef_> v3ctor: ok, I knew there was a way... had installed b4 but then I needed to reinstall... thx
[14:02] <Jordan_U> chintan, By default, yes
[14:02] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  now to TEST that theory - you could try out some of the various live cd's :) done that befor.
[14:02] <littlebear72> cool thanks
[14:02] <fmanas> Jordan_U: When was compiled this .deb package?
[14:02] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  of course just last night here.. the wifes laptop networks stopped working.. turned out it was her network cable that was bad. she had pinched it for so long at a bad angle it broke.
[14:02] <littlebear72> ill go play a while and see what i can get going :)
[14:03] <Jordan_U> fmanas, It is from the forum linked to by ubotu
[14:03] <crush_groove> chintan the current version of Ubuntu is Gutsy Gibbon
[14:03] <chef_> v3ctor: when I go to navigate to the desktop is the command ~/ ?
[14:03] <chintan> 7.10?
[14:03] <crush_groove> chintan yes
[14:04] <snurre> i was trying to run ubuntu from a livecd (not installed anything), but after the startup menu my screen just goes black and nothing more happens.. anyone know what might cause this?
[14:05] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, I am afraid that is what I will do eventially. Do not want to go that way as my graphics card is not supported out of the box and once installed the system it is difficult for me to load of the live cd in office as I have to attache another screen for that
[14:05] <crush_groove> snurre,  try selecting safe graphics mode
[14:05] <snurre> same problem
[14:05] <crush_groove> snurre ATI?
[14:06] <snurre> geforce 8800
[14:06] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, but now I used the easier options and probably need to do that as I DO LIKE UBUNTU AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE IN OFFICE
[14:06] <Omer> snurre: is your monitor connected by dvi?
[14:06] <snurre> yeah
[14:06] <Vixen_> I'm trying to repartition an external HD for use with ubuntu, this fails, as the device is "mounted". Is it a simple and safe process to "unmount" the HD?
[14:06] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, Yes
[14:07] <Omer> snurre: i have the same problem, couldn't solve it yet :|
[14:07] <Vixen_> Cheers
[14:07] <HackerAlert> Guys..
[14:07] <HackerAlert> Anyone know why? I only get sound on left speaker
[14:07] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, "sudo umount -a" should unmount all drives ( except things like the CDROM that you are booted from of course :)
[14:07] <crush_groove> snurre,  and Omer what versions ?
[14:07] <HackerAlert> it worked yesterday fine =\
[14:07] <snurre> 7.10, just downloaded
[14:07] <chintan> but in the manually partitioning after installation start it doesn't displays any options to create any partition
[14:07] <Dr_willis> Sergemine,  Hmm. what video card? You could just test the network with a console on a live cd.    DSL or PuppyLinux is just a 50 or so mb download to test out.  I just take the 'lets elminate everything that it can be' befor digging into ubuntus networking. Heck- It could be a typo in the network settings for all we know.
[14:08] <crush_groove> gimme a sec .. looking at forums
[14:08] <Omer> crush_groove: kubuntu 7.10, will try to install media center on it, but can't past the blank screen
[14:08] <Sergemine> Dr_willis, plus It installed a network printer some time before which the latest version of windows + laters drivers wasn't able to install no metter how much I tried
[14:08] <Vixen_> Jordan_U- I'm looking to only unmount the external HD, since that's where ubuntu will go on my dual boot. I'm not actually sure what unmounting means or does, so I really don't want to damage other drives  =[
[14:08] <mohit> ...enterz....
[14:08] <mohit> any geek  can help me out!!
[14:08] <ubuntuluvr> Vixen_ you can't repartition an unmounted hard drive
[14:08] <Paha> Hello, help me please, configure dual-view on my Laptop
[14:08] <ubuntuluvr> man for fdisk
[14:09] <crush_groove> snurre can you get to a command line ?>
[14:09] <snurre> nope
[14:09] <snurre> only the boot menu for the livecd
[14:09] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, Unmounting is simply the software side of "ejecting", it means that the hard drive is not being read from or written to basically.
[14:09] <tristano82> hello
[14:09] <snurre> got a black screen after checking the cd for errors and mem check aswell
[14:09] <tristano82> wtf?
[14:10] <Jordan_U> !anyone | mohit
[14:10] <ubotu> mohit: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:10] <Dr_willis> Paha,  what video card the lptop is using . will dictate how you configure dual monitors.
[14:10] <Omer> crush_groove: getting to a command line is possible with ctrl+alt+f1
[14:10] <tristano82> damn!
[14:10] <Vixen_> ubuntuluvr, Jordan_U: In that case, I'm really unsure on what to do to make the external HD compatible with ubuntu
[14:10] <hvesalai> netzmeister: there are two errors: "wlan0: RX WEP frame with unknown keyidx 0" and "WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported"
[14:10] <gsnsr> my wireless card is broadcom, ubuntu recognize it, I see wireless connection in network setting, but I can't turn it on. I pushed the wireless button. It ran normally in windows, can u help me?
[14:10] <Omer> crush_groove: but when you press alt+f7 everything goes black again
[14:10] <arang2> hi guys i really hope anyone gives me some help, my samba performance is quite slow, 40 or so megabits when the interaction is between XP and linux, anyone could give me some help about tweaking samba parameters for better speed??
[14:10] <Tetracomm> Could someone help me with this please?
[14:11] <hvesalai> netzmeister: ifup wlan0 says also: "WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported", "WEXT auth param 5 value 0x1 -"... BUT the network works now... the problem is that it stops working after some time (I mean hours)
[14:11] <Vixen_> !ask
[14:11] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:11] <Paha> When i press function-key i don't see screen on tvset, nvidia GeForce MX
[14:11] <Rootsnatch> Hey
[14:11] <crush_groove> says here we need to get to /etc/X11 and change driver from nvidea to nv..
[14:11] <Tetracomm> I already asked the question earlier on.
[14:12] <nomad111> when totem starts on my gutsy install my monitor switches off then back on with totem playing the video
[14:12] <Paha> i see only 1-2 color rounds and points
[14:12] <nomad111> does anyone have an idea why?
[14:12] <arang2> hi guys i really hope anyone gives me some help, my samba performance is quite slow, 40 or so megabits when the interaction is between XP and linux, anyone could give me some help about tweaking samba parameters for better speed??
[14:12] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, Just run the command I gave "sudo umount -a" Also make sure that you install the bootloader to the external drive if you don't want it installed to the internal drive ( sorry that this is more complicated than it should be :)
[14:12] <littlebear72> ok Jordan_U that worked perfectly thanks
[14:12] <Dr_willis> Paha,  ive noticed with some laptops the special keys like that work..and with others they dont. Ive also noticed that Depending on the video card. the TV if hooked up WHEN the system boots up.. The TV will be enabled.
[14:12] <littlebear72> now my newinstall works well
[14:12] <nomad111> some useful info: i run a laptop on an external lcd screen
[14:12] <Jordan_U> littlebear72, np
[14:12] <Dr_willis> Paha,  also you proberly need to have the nvidia drivers installed to allow on the fly setting of the tv out and other settings.
[14:13] <Vixen_> Jordan_U: Won't that command unmount all drives? Including internal drives
[14:13] <Tetracomm> Windows XO won't boot after I installed Ubuntu.
[14:13] <Tetracomm> XP*
[14:13] <littlebear72> on this system im running fiesty fawn 7.06 do you think i could give it a try to see if it might work ?
[14:13] <mohit> install grub -- tetracomm
[14:13] <ntemis> can i put ubuntu and dual boot with vista?
[14:13] <mohit> yes
[14:13] <chef_> could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong/missing? In terminal I type: cd ~/install_flash_player_9_linux so I can install the program but terminal keeps telling me the file and/or directory doesn't exist even though I can see it sitting there on my desktop. What gives?
[14:14] <jtt> Tetracomm, lucky you :)
[14:14] <mohit> type this chef
[14:14] <^swb^> chef_, try doing ./install....
[14:14] <ntemis> will i need to do anything special?
[14:14] <v3ctor> chef_: ./<installer name>
[14:14] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, All except for the CD and any other drives that currently have files open, yes. Or are you not running from a LiveCD?
[14:14] <Tetracomm> Grub is installed.
[14:14] <mohit> sudo apt-get install <filename>
[14:14] <Tetracomm> I can boot into Ubuntu.
[14:14] <^swb^> if that doesnt work do chmod a+x <filename>  first
[14:14] <littlebear72> chef_: are you in the directory that the file is in and are you typeing it case specific ?
[14:14] <^swb^> then try again
[14:14] <arang2> hi guys i really hope anyone gives me some help, my samba performance is quite slow, 40 or so megabits when the interaction is between XP and linux, anyone could give me some help about tweaking samba parameters for better speed??
[14:14] <Jordan_U> ntemis, Yes
[14:14] <Dr_willis> chef_,  it is a directory? and yoy  are tryign to cd to the HOME DIR with ~ not the Desktop dir
[14:14] <Vixen_> Jordan_U: I'm running from a liveCD, but I want to create a dual boot, so I want to keep everything on my C and D drives
[14:14] <Omer> arang2: are you connected through wireless?
[14:15] <mohit> follow the steps carefully vixen
[14:15] <arang2> Omer: no direct cable ethernet
[14:15] <ubuntu_demon__> quick question : does the alternate cd support resizing windows partitions ?
[14:15] <Omer> arang2: if that's the situation you don't have much choices
[14:15] <Vixen_> I want to create a linux partition on my J: drive
[14:15] <Dr_willis> chef_,  just use cd  /home/USERNAME/Desktop/inst<tab>
[14:15] <Tetracomm> mohit, Windows XP is in the GRUB boot list too, but it doesn't load.
[14:15] <billy> how do u quick save in emacs? it says C-x but what does that mean?
[14:15] <littlebear72> cd to Desktop
[14:15] <Omer> arang2: if not, you can stop logging and etc. to speed it up
[14:15] <v3ctor> billy: crtl-x
[14:15] <gsnsr> my wireless card is broadcom, ubuntu recognize it, I see wireless connection in network setting, but I can't turn it on. I pushed the wireless button. It ran normally in windows, can u help me?
[14:15] <arang2> Omer: i'm using ethernet 100mbps cat5e
[14:15] <Dr_willis> !tab | chef_
[14:15] <ubotu> chef_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:15] <billy> C-x C-w
[14:15] <billy> v3ctor, cheers
[14:15] <mohit> may be its gone from harddisk
[14:15] <Omer> arang2: any other pcs connected?
[14:16] <mohit> look for the partiton where xp resides
[14:16] <Omer> because normally a 100 mbit switch has an internal speed of 100 mbit in total
[14:16] <mohit> then google to edit grub and add that partition in grub
[14:16] <arang2> Omer: i have the computers connected directly thru one cable
[14:16] <Paha> and special key and set in nvidia-setting not do effect, It is work good in XP
[14:16] <Paha> i have driver installed
[14:16] <Omer> so when many pcs are connected you might be having a bottleneck
[14:16] <arang2> Omer: these are my socket parms for smb.conf    socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY SO_KEEPALIVE SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
[14:17] <chef_> wow! thanks guys 4 all the info tho answers are quite different... I'm now somewhat confused
[14:17] <Paha> i am set NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver!
[14:17] <arang2> Omer: i'm having the problem with a single cable right now, when i do the XP to XP i get 70 or 80mbps, but from XP to Linux or Linux to XP i get only 40 something
[14:17] <Paha> no effect
[14:17] <Gnome_> hello
[14:17] <v3ctor> chef_: are you having trouble changin into the directory?
[14:18] <arang2> arang2: i tried the iperf thing between both , i get speeds of 91mbps between both more or less so the problem is with samba, i wanna tweak it to gain more speed
[14:18] <grunger> why does ubuntu's website make it difficult for human beings to download a DVD version from the site's download page?
[14:18] <arang2> Omer: i tried the iperf thing between both , i get speeds of 91mbps between both more or less so the problem is with samba, i wanna tweak it to gain more speed
[14:18] <Dr_willis> chef_,  learning to use the shell.. would show you what you are doing wrong.. you dont cd to ~/whjatever  ~ is the HOME DIR. not the Desktop directory
[14:19] <Paha> The TV is enable in BISO, in Windows XP it is work
[14:19] <Dr_willis> chef_,  if you see a thing on the desktop its in ~/Desktop/whatever
[14:19] <chef_> v3ctor: yes, I thought to go to the desktop I should type cd ~/<filename> but I'm guessing that's wrong
[14:19] <Dr_willis> chef_,  ~ is a shortcut for /home/YOURUSERNAME/
[14:19] <ubuntu_demon__> quick question : does the alternate cd support resizing windows partitions ?
[14:20] <chef_> Dr_willis:ty, now I understand
[14:21] <Jordan_U> Vixen_, I need to sleep, one thing you should know ( sorry for presenting this without a solution, there is one ) is that the bootloader, grub, will be installed on the *internal* drive by default, there is an "advanced" option to change that during the install but it's not intuitive. I would wait to do this until you are talking with someone who truly understands what is going on ( copy and paste this message if need-be )
[14:21] <Jordan_U> before doing this. But then again I am very cautious. Note, this would not be a problem of data loss in any way, but just possibly not being able to boot and requiring a fixmbr from a windows install CD to fix it easily, but you would have to know to do that.... now you do, and now that my rambling is done I am going to sleep :)
[14:21] <Dr_willis> chef_,  bash basics. :)   Its very worth while to spend an hr or so reading a few bash starter guides.    Get a good foundation of knowledge to build on. Thats the linux way.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Once you learn the Linux FUNdaMENTALs - the rest is easy. heh..
[14:21] <jtt> ubuntu_demon__, if the alternate has  gparted  or  parted
[14:21] <jaggz-> how do I fake that a package is installed?  After some fiddling I got a python module installed, but it required some packages of different versions, etc.  However, it eventually only worked with some versions not matching up
[14:21] <jaggz-> now my package system wants to delete a ton of things, thinking dependencies aren't satisfied
[14:21] <sakuramboo> where can i get some of those little ubuntu laptop stickers? the ones that replace the "designed for windows" stickers"
[14:22] <simion314> i hate the flash player plugin for firefox, it crashed and i can't restart it, i have no sound, i hate Adobe
[14:22] <Jordan_U> jaggz-, Man dpkg, look at force and depends
[14:22] <Omer> arang2: i see, i'm sorry that i haven't experienced any speed problems before
[14:22] <littlebear72> ok im proud to say that the deb you showd me worked for fiesty 7.06 ... it works fantastic for firefox now the last stage to the problem ... how do i get opera to access that plug in ?
[14:22] <Omer> i believe it's google that might help you :)
[14:22] <Paha> I dont use TV-Out i want enable second monitor to VGA output
[14:22] <jaggz-> by the way -- everything I want is installed right now.. I just need to tell it these existing versions are "okay"
[14:22] <Omer> but people have written that they had speed problems after upgrades
[14:22] <arang2> Omer: i already tried to google it i just cant find anything definite sadly
[14:22] <arang2> Omer: i did a clean install
[14:23] <Jordan_U> littlebear72, It can't without a newer version, which is why this 'fix' has not been added to the default repos :(
[14:23] <chef_> Dr_willis: good idea I agree if I had any documentation... where do I find
[14:23] <Dr_willis> chef_,  theres litallery 10000's of bash guides/docs out. the 'advanced bash scriptng guide' is in the repos and at tldp.org   its worth checking out.. TLDP.org is also worth bookmarking. :)
[14:23] <wols> !bash
[14:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:24] <Dr_willis> chef_,  check the bookstores/bargin bin tables at the bookstores for Oriealy's 'using bash' book. its the de-facto book on it. :)  its may be online also at places.
[14:24] <Dr_willis> chef_,  and the url's  the bot just posted.
[14:24] <littlebear72> ahh well thanks anyway atleast i have it workign in both 7.10 and 7.06 that fix worked for both it just did not translate to opera .. small price to pay for flash working at all lol and as i have learnt and you have implied it will work in time but just not yet lol thanks again everyone your file Jordan_U worked a treat
[14:25] <chef_> Dr_willis:ty... will check them out
[14:25] <jaggz-> I have:  python2.4      2.4.1-0-1   installed...   software is requesting python2.4 (>= 2.3.90) (UNSATISFIED)  and it says it's unsatisfied :/
[14:25] <xtas> &j #kubuntu
[14:26] <perfector> which package has initramfs or initrd??
[14:26] <robdeman> folks can I install ISPConfig on Degy?
[14:26] <robdeman> Edgy
[14:26] <Invert314> what's the comand to turn a file folder into a tar ball?
[14:26] <Invert314> tar xxx /folder filename.gz
[14:27] <CyberMatt> Invert314, that with tar cvf whatever
[14:28] <v3ctor> perfector: initrd-tools
[14:28] <Invert314> ty CyberMatt
[14:28] <CyberMatt> that would be rather
[14:28] <perfector> thanks v3ctor
[14:28] <perfector> v3ctor: is it the same on debian too?
[14:29] <v3ctor> maybe
[14:29] <Invert314> drone4four@Ubuntu:~/Desktop$ tar cvf dox/ dox.tar.gz
[14:29] <Invert314> tar: dox/: Cannot open: Is a directory
[14:29] <Invert314> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[14:29] <doxie> Oo
[14:29] <doxie> dox?:>
[14:29] <doxie> ^^
[14:29] <v3ctor> Invert314: tar cvf dox.tar.gz dox/
[14:30] <doxie> Highlight, lalala :>
[14:30] <Invert314> ty v3ctor
[14:30] <ubuntuluvr> did we just have a netsplit?
[14:31] <Omer> arang2: interestingly after setting my samba server with your parameters it slowed down dramatically
[14:31] <Omer> arang2: i can't even get a directory listing for a few seconds
[14:31] <CyberMatt> not well i was here
[14:31] <perfector> is there any way i can totally disable avahi-daemon
[14:31] <perfector> ??
[14:31] <arang2> Omer: really? damn, what parameters do u use by default?
[14:32] <Omer> arang2: i don't :) i just use the default smb.conf, just added my shares to the end
[14:32] <jaggz-> Invert314: no
[14:32] <jaggz-> need z option for .gz
[14:32] <CyberMatt> perfector, yes stop it remove it from init
[14:32] <chef_> Dr_willis: Following your advice I sucessfully navigated to the file on my desktop and started the installer but I'm told I'm running installer as a non-root user... should I have typed sudo before the ./<filename> ?
[14:32] <arang2> Omer: gah, have u tested ur speed with the parameters i showed u?
[14:32] <jaggz-> tar -cf foo.tar dir/
[14:32] <Dr_willis> chef_,  yes.
[14:33] <v3ctor> perfector:  update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove
[14:33] <jaggz-> tar -czf foo.tar.gz dir/
[14:33] <Invert314> jaggz-, i neatly tared that file folder into gz
[14:33] <v3ctor> chef_: if you want to install for everyone...if you run as normal user it installs in you home directory
[14:33] <chef_> Dr_willis:ty again
[14:33] <Omer> arang2: yes, there is also a slowdown, it says in the config that it should increase speed but it does not work for me, i'm using 7.10 server
[14:33] <littlebear72> yes chef_ sudo makes you root
[14:33] <jaggz-> tar -cf foo.tar.jpg dir/  ??
[14:33] <arang2> Omer: i'm also using gutsy 7.10 server kernel
[14:34] <Invert314>  tar cvf dox.tar.gz dox/
[14:34] <arang2> Omer: how bad is ur slowdown?
[14:34] <jaggz-> no
[14:34] <perfector> v3ctor: CyberMatt i tried it multiple times.. it does not remove any links anymore but still tries to startup during boot-time
[14:34] <jaggz-> wrong
[14:34] <zOOd> 'lo tous.
[14:34] <Invert314> that command worked fine
[14:34] <doxie> hate you all. :>
[14:34] <jaggz-> that's not really gzipped
[14:34] <x-X-x> i want to access a dir but i cant and when i check properties under permissions it says the "owner is 1445" and the group is "300" can someone help me ?
[14:34] <perfector> v3ctor: CyberMatt any other way i can remove it.. like config files?
[14:34] <chef_> ty all... think I got it now... just hope I remember all this for next time... gonna try to jot it all down quick b4 I forget everything I just learned
[14:34] <Omer> arang2: i'll give you an update in a few minutes, i'm connected through wireless
[14:34] <[SpigiBoy]> hello
[14:34] <arang2> Omer: alright muchas gracias
[14:35] <v3ctor> perfector: check all of the /etc/rcX.d directories
[14:35] <jaggz-> v3ctor: your command was wrong, why don;t you speak up??  :)
[14:35] <Coope> Does 7.10's encryption at install encrypt swap?
[14:35] <gsnsr> my wireless card is broadcom, ubuntu recognize it, I see wireless connection in network setting, but I can't turn it on. I pushed the wireless button. It ran normally in windows, can u help me?
[14:36] <perfector> v3ctor: no does not exist anywhere
[14:36] <uzerzero> !broadcom | gsnsr
[14:36] <ubotu> gsnsr: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[14:36] <Invert314> jaggz-, using  tar -czf doxwz.tar.gz dox/ (your command) resulted in a tar ball half the size compared with the tar ball the other comand created
[14:36] <Invert314> we hate you too doxie
[14:36] <v3ctor> perfector: like /etc/rc2.d /etc/rc3.d etc
[14:36] <tifine> whats the command to display the processor speed and other things ?
[14:37] <v3ctor> perfector: shouldn't start then
[14:37] <jaggz-> Invert314: your command looks, to you, like it worked, but it didn't.  You can call the output file anything you want, but with -z it will be gzipped, and without it it will not
[14:37] <perfector> v3ctor: yeah and rcS too
[14:37] <perfector> v3ctor: i also used to think the same.. this is baffling me
[14:37] <jaggz-> tar -cf foo.tar dir/             tar -czf foo.tar.gz dir/
[14:38] <_mug> hey im trying out nvidia-settings and i wonder how i make it save the settings.. i apllied "cursor-shadow" but nothing happens, after a x-restart the box is unchecked and every change i made is back as it was..
[14:38] <jaggz-> tar -cf foo.tar.gz dir/     <--- this makes a normal uncompressed tar file, but it mistakenly calls it .gz
[14:38] <jaggz-> I think we used to have to do compression like this:   tar -cf - dir/  |  gzip -c  > file.tar.gz       :)
[14:39] <Dr_willis> now is the time to google for a tar tutorial or 4 :)
[14:39] <jaggz-> we still have to with unsupported compression
[14:39] <v3ctor> lol @ Dr_willis
[14:39] <chef_> ok... 1 more question guys... would this be the installation path of my browser (default 7.10) /usr/firefox?
[14:39] <jaggz-> v3ctor: why are you laughing?  you're the one who needs to read it.. ;)
[14:39]  * jaggz- nudges v3ctor
[14:39] <jaggz-> :)
[14:40] <Dr_willis> _mug,  i normally edit/enable some of that stuff by manually eding the xorg.conf I wonder if compiz overrides/disables some of those settings..
[14:40] <v3ctor> jaggz-: i accidentally copied and pasted someone eleses mess up...oops
[14:40] <Dr_willis> _mug,  i THINK cursor shadow only works with the default X cursors.. not the fancier gnome/compiz ones
[14:40] <_mug> Dr_willis: hmrm
[14:40] <Dr_willis> I toyed witht he shadow ages ago. Not messed with it lately.
[14:40] <_mug> Dr_willis: i see
[14:41] <jaggz-> v3ctor:  heh
[14:41] <gsnsr> ubuntu can't turn on my wireless. can u help me?
[14:41] <CompGuru> quit
[14:41] <CompGuru> exit
[14:41] <v3ctor> jaggz-: personally i would have used 'j' to get those couple extra bytes shrunk down ;)
[14:42] <CompGuru> #quit
[14:42] <jaggz-> definitely.. if you have the time
[14:42] <jaggz-> comp, /quit ?
[14:42] <jaggz-> Why does my package system say:  ii  python2.4      2.4.1-0-1      Python 2.4   but software with dependencies are broken, requiring python2.4 (>= 2.3.90) (UNSATISFIED)  ?
[14:43] <jaggz-> it was through my own fiddling with the system trying to get some software installed which required some python dev tools, but my distro is old and unsupported (and I needed this development to get some important work done -- so I couldn't update my distro)
[14:43] <jaggz-> so I manually/force installed some python packages, and those overwrote my existing python2.4 stuff, and now tons of things are broken :(
[14:44] <jaggz-> I'd like to tell the system, "convince yourself that my current python2.4 is sufficient"
[14:44] <v3ctor> do you have more than one python version installed?
[14:45] <timrit> Does anyone know why my number pad on my keyboard would stop working on its own and the only way to get it back is to restart the machine? Also, if I restart X by <cntl - alt - bksp> I get a login screen but after I log in i never get my desktop.
[14:45] <chef_> Dr_willis: sorry 2 keep bothering you but you seem quite knowledgable... installer is asking for the installation path of my browser giving this ex. (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla)... that file doesn't exist but there is a /usr/firefox file... I'm guessing that's the correct one but would like confirmation so I not sticking files any old place & wondering why the app doesn't work
[14:45] <jaggz-> yes and no.. there's the older python 2.3 also installed.. and it all worked before with 2.3 and 2.4.. it wasn't until I had to install some -dev packages which were of mismatched versions
[14:46] <jaggz-> that I overwrote my 2.4 python and broke everything
[14:46] <iblicf> hi , i have installed the pulseaudio using apt-get from the reportery , 7.10 , allmost everything can found there, bu i dont's know how to use  it , and seems sth wrong like i can't stop the bell ring of vi / terminal ?
[14:46] <v3ctor> jaggz-: i had the original problem you had before, it was because of the symlink to of python to the wrong binary...it pointed to 2.4 instead of 2.5
[14:47] <mrtimdog> Anyone know of a resource booking app for ubuntu?
[14:47] <jaggz-> I'd like to tell it, "consider my current python2.4 is sufficient to satisfy python2.4 v2.3.90"
[14:47] <Dr_willis> chef_,  you do realize theres an updated .deb package that can install the new flash player? :) you wouldent have to mess with this stuff.
[14:47] <poningru_> Martinp23, resource booking?
[14:47] <poningru_> err
[14:47] <poningru_> mrtimdog,
[14:47] <v3ctor> jaggz-: what does `python --version` tell you
[14:48] <x-X-x> im trying to access a directory and it says i dont have the permission too and when i check the properties of that dir it says that the owner of the dir is "1445" and that the group is "300" what does this mean? isnt it supposed to say root ? can someone help me ?
[14:48] <mrtimdog> poningru_: Just general resources, i.e. meeting rooms, projectors, etc..
[14:48] <jaggz-> Python 2.4.1 (#1, Dec 19 2007, 10:16:44)
[14:48] <jaggz-> python -v
[14:48] <Dr_willis> chef_,  i have  /usr/lib/mozilla/ here
[14:48] <poningru_> mrtimdog, yeah dude tons... there are bunch of cms servers out there
[14:48] <chef_> Dr-willis: no I had no idea but then again I want to learn this so I don't have to shell out the big $$$ to Uncle Bill for crappy software
[14:48] <v3ctor> jaggz-: i like the extra keystrokes...its the only exercise i get ;)
[14:48] <jaggz-> I think I downloaded and installed a bunch of python's from the ubuntu old-releases.ubuntu.com repository
[14:48] <Dr_willis> !flash
[14:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:48] <jaggz-> lol
[14:48] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:49] <Dr_willis> chef_,  that 2nd url the bot posted - has info/links to the 'testing' flash installer package. Use at your own risk. :) but i imagine its safer then using the flash installer.
[14:49] <v3ctor> jaggz-: have you tried removing all python packages and starting over?
[14:50] <jaggz-> hmm.. perhaps I could force-install the current one, over the existing one, with an option saying it satisfies the other dependencies?
[14:50] <v3ctor> you could...
[14:50] <jaggz-> I'm a bit hesitant to remove them since I have it working
[14:50] <Nicolaidis> hello, does someone use weather desklet?
[14:51] <jaggz-> oh.. python -v is also extra.. verbose.
[14:51] <Dr_willis> chef_,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb is the pakcage ive been testing onmy machines. Again. use at your own risk. I dont expect anyproblems from it however
[14:51] <Omer_> arang2: ok i have tested both configs
[14:51] <v3ctor> eww @ extra verbose
[14:51] <PWizard> I've got an ATI X1550 running the fglrx driver on 64-bit gutsy.  Google Earth freezes at the splash screen and takes up 100% of one of my CPUs.  Has anyone had this issue, and if so, is there a workaround?
[14:51] <chef_> Dr-willis: thx again but I gone this far... checked again & I've a /usr/firefox folder & a /usr/mozilla folder but there's no /usr/lib/mozilla folder... running 7.10 server... standard install
[14:51] <Omer_> arang2: with your settings i can get upto 80 mbits/s
[14:52] <PWizard> I've tried installing the latest Catalyst driver by hand, but that just makes my system lock up when gdm starts
[14:52] <copperhead> i'm new to ubuntu but a long time slackware user.  this system has a wide screen lcd that wants the display at 1440x900@60Hz.  This wasn't an option in the System->Administration->Screens and Graphics interface, so I extracted the .INF file from the windows 'driver' for that monitor and imported it.  Now Screens and Graphics offers the monitor as a choice, but the screen gets set to...
[14:52] <jaggz-> dpkg --convince-yourself-and-remember-that-all-dependencies-are-satisfied
[14:52] <copperhead> ...1280x1024 after I restart.  /etc/X11/xorg.conf shows 1440x900.  Does anybody know what script is changing the resoloution after X starts?
[14:52] <copperhead> err resolution
[14:53] <v3ctor> jaggz-: that only works with the --cross-your-fingers option
[14:53] <jaggz-> dpkg --python2.4-YYYY -is-sufficient-to-satisfy python2.4-XXXX
[14:53] <jaggz-> rofl
[14:53] <Mal-NY> good morn, anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[14:53] <bobbo> Does anyone in here know anything about eSata?
[14:53] <jaggz-> here comes eSanta Claus
[14:53] <osfameron> hiya
[14:53] <arang2> Omer_: and with urs?
[14:53] <Dr_willis> bobbo,  its one of those neat things.. that i wish would get really really really common really really fast!
[14:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:53] <osfameron> how do I create a new keyboard shortcut in gnome?  e.g. to launch an executable
[14:54] <bobbo> Dr_willis: My mobo doesnt have any Sata connectors, if i get an eSata PCI card will this be enough to connect my eSata HD?
[14:55] <AdemoS> whoever it was that recommended Deluge over Azu.....appears to be right
[14:55] <jaggz-> I have to sleep :(
[14:55] <jaggz-> ttyl
[14:55] <AdemoS> it's a lot easier to use, faster, and without a million JRE dependcies
[14:55] <Dr_willis> bobbo,  i guess so - if the card is supoported. Ive not seen any esata pci cards  out yet. (not looked much)
[14:55] <th0r> AdemoS aren't you getting tired yet?
[14:55] <Dr_willis> !hardware | bobbo
[14:55] <ubotu> bobbo: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[14:56] <Omer_> arang2: it's slower, but with your settings i still get slow directory listings
[14:56] <AdemoS> Once it's stable on Windows I can start recommending it to friend
[14:56] <bobbo> thanks Dr_willis
[14:56] <AdemoS> Thor: Haha, a little. What about you?
[14:56] <arang2> Omer_: so using no settings gives u slower speed?
[14:56]  * AdemoS on retrospect like the water droplet over the frog
[14:57] <AdemoS> anyway th0r, thanks again for your help with partioning. hopefully when I set up my second storage driver, it'll be much faster
[14:57] <Omer_> arang2: yes, but since i'm over wireless i can't get over 40 mbits anyway, that's why i haven't noticed ;)
[14:57] <AdemoS> goodnight all
[14:58] <osfameron> aha, apparently binding a key to an exe isn't yet defined in ui ( http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/30/defining-keyboard-shortcuts-for-commands/ )
[14:58]  * osfameron apt-gets xbindkeys-config
[14:58] <arang2> Omer_: oh damn so at the end i still stay screwed :(
[14:59] <howlingmadhowie> hallo :) quick problem: the cdrw of a friend of mine stopped being recognised at the end of the year. she's using gutsy. has anybody here had the same problem or is it more likely to be a hardware problem?
[14:59] <wols> howlingmadhowie: unless she changed kernels then, very much sounds like hardware. does the BIOS still recognize the drive?
[14:59] <Gpalco> c9s, I MANAGED to set alias!
[15:00] <Omer_> arang2: you might have a problem with your switch/hub?
[15:00] <howlingmadhowie> wols: an excellent question. with the stupid bios, i suppose she'll have to start new and check.
[15:00] <arang2> Omer_: i ruled it out i connect the computers using a cross cable
[15:01] <simmerz> is there a way to allow videos to play when using compiz so that the screen doesn't flicker? using an nvidia graphics card
[15:02] <howlingmadhowie> oh for openboot or linux bios on normal pcs!
[15:03] <Webspot> I am trying to ping a windows vista machine. When I try to ping it, it says the host could not be found. But if I run nmblookup on the host, it does find the host. Can someone explain why?
[15:03] <pvt_harv> hi guys, why can't i install clamtk (and clamav) using apt-get? it constantly displays that dependencies are not met. apt-get should have installed them too right? using synaptic, i've got the same error
[15:03] <Mal-NY> good mor, anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[15:03] <carina> how do i check what type of memory machine is using currently_
[15:03] <loa> hello, explain me why there no icons in kde... after kernel upgrade
[15:04] <loa> i checked all libs, paths
[15:04] <loa> all is ok
[15:04] <Xintruder> If was to buy a laptop and install ubuntu, making it "look" nice with beryl or something, and compatible with most multimedia files today, what would I buy?
[15:05] <Dr_willis> weird. Try makign a new user see if it affects them loa?
[15:05] <emilio> hola
[15:05] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  Dell has Ubuntu preinstalled laptops.
[15:05] <ikonia> Xintruder: any laptop that has supported hardware
[15:05] <PWizard> Xintruder, that is, you want an nvidia chipset
[15:05] <PWizard> :)
[15:05] <Dr_willis> yea - Nvidia Video card - is a MUST.
[15:05] <carina> how do i activate compiz on a ati graphics card?
[15:06] <carina> i have glxgears working
[15:06] <Xintruder> why is nvidia card importan if I will not run games?
[15:06] <B-rabbit> Where can i find the documentation for "GnomePGP" cause the given web address that comes with the package seems to be dead?
 ok... but why whit old kernel all is ok?
[15:06] <B-rabbit> :(
[15:06] <carina> i mean i have 3d acceralion working
[15:06] <ikonia> Xintruder: compiz-fusion will appriciate a solid video card
[15:06] <simion314> how can i make the task bar appear like buttons with my running application? how this plugin is maned?
[15:06] <rexy> you enable desktop graphics something
[15:06] <Dr_willis> loa,  no idea on that. This is the first ive heard of that kind of problem.
[15:06] <Xintruder> ikonia, who is compix-fusion :s ????
[15:06] <loa> hmmm thank you
[15:06] <carina> i tried and it give me compiz no extension or something
[15:07] <ikonia> Xintruder: compiz-fusion, its the new name for beryl
[15:07] <Xintruder> oh ok
[15:07] <Dr_willis> compiz is what gives ya all the fancy eye candy - It can be a bit of a pain to get going on ati cards.
[15:07] <carina> i am using gutsy
[15:07] <rexy> Xintruder: just a name for a desktop wich has more eye candy
[15:07] <Dr_willis> Compiz can be a pain in other ways as well.
[15:07] <PWizard> Xintruder, beryl/compiz/whatever work best on nvidia, in my experience.  Trust me, I'm using an ATI card now and can't get the shit working.  :)
[15:07] <i00_000i> h
[15:07] <simmerz> is there a way to allow videos to play when using compiz so that the screen doesn't flicker? using an nvidia graphics card
[15:07] <B-rabbit> !Gnome pgp
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:07] <ikonia> rexy: it's not a desktop
[15:07] <simion314> how can i make the task bar appear like buttons with my running application? how this plugin is maned?
[15:07] <rexy> ikonia: dont nit pick
[15:07] <Xintruder> ok thank you
[15:07] <ikonia> rexy: don't give false information
[15:07] <bobbyd> hi
[15:08] <carina> is there way to find the speed of the memory?
[15:08] <robdeman> hey folks, when using IMAP then Dovecoty is unable to create folders such as SENT, TRASH, etc... any idea why?
[15:08] <rexy> ikonia: does it give your desktop eye candy?
[15:08] <carina> or what type of memory?
[15:08] <ikonia> carina: look at the bios prompt
[15:08] <ikonia> rexy: yes, it certainly does
[15:08] <ikonia> carina: look at the bios prompt at boot up
[15:08] <i00_000i> gcc is not working in ubuntu saying stdio cant be found is this error normal in ubuntu or an installation failure
[15:08] <Xintruder> is GeForce Go 7400 with 64mb dedicated memmory good enough??
[15:08] <carina> i have no bios prompt
[15:08] <ikonia> i00_000i: do you have stdio.h on the sysstem
[15:08] <carina> my computer is a compaq
[15:09] <ikonia> carina: when you boot up you will get a bios logo or some wording, read the wording
[15:09] <carina> i only see a big compaq logo
[15:09] <Gpalco> c9s, I managed to setup alias with a fixed IP. But it only works when DHCP works TOO! like this: "eth0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:77:38:49:72  inet addr:192.168.1.4  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:77ff:fe38:4972/64 Scope:Link
[15:09] <Gpalco> eth0:0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:77:38:49:72 inet addr:192.168.0.88  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0 "
[15:09] <ikonia> carina: enter the bios and if possible disable the bios logo
[15:09] <ikonia> carina: or lookup your model on the net for the ram make/speed
[15:09] <carina> is there any way to find in linux
[15:09] <i00_000i> ikonia: i installed the ubuntu server version it shld b ther by default i ran locate stdio but no result was listed
[15:09] <chef_> Dr-willis:Doh! Yes I was in /usr/lib looking for lib file (sorry... guess I'm a little thick) but in /usr/lib I've got /firefox & /mozilla so I'm unsure which I should consider the browser install path... there are many folders in the /firefox folder including a plugin sub-folder but only one within the /mozilla folder... also a plugin subfolder... very confusing
[15:10] <bobbyd> I have a weird problem: file dialogs and Nautilus windows are taking ages to appear (maybe 40 seconds). there's no CPU, Disk or Network activity though. I *think* this may have started happening since I started using Bluetooth for browsing my phone, but that may just be a coincidence. Has anyone got any ideas? (Runnign Gutsy on a Dell Inspiron 6400)
[15:10] <wols> caravel: what chipset?
[15:10] <ikonia> i00_000i why should it be there by default ?
[15:10] <Mal-NY> anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[15:10] <ikonia> i00_000i: header files are not there by default
[15:10] <carina> any able to get compiz fusion work with ati card?
[15:10] <Xintruder> ikonia, is GeForce Go 7400 with 64mb dedicated memmory good enough??
[15:10] <wols> carina: xserver-xgl
[15:10] <wols> !xgl | carina
[15:10] <unravel> compiz-fusion works fine with my ancient ati
[15:10] <ubotu> carina: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:10] <Mal-NY> anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[15:10] <flint> wmaluk
[15:10] <bobbyd> oh, there's nothing in the syslog either
[15:10] <i00_000i>  ikonia: but itz ther in fedora so shld i download all the headers and copy it to /usr/include
[15:11] <Dr_willis> chef_,  personally i would  'wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb ' then 'sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb ' and dump the manual installer.
[15:11] <Gpalco> People! How can I tell Ubuntu which IP to use in case it fales to receive on from a DHCP server ???
[15:11] <ikonia> i00_000i: your not using fedora, so it doesn't matter
[15:11] <rexy> ikonia: you probably need the glibc-dev package
[15:11] <flint> wmaulik, you there?
[15:11] <rexy> err i00_000i
[15:11] <ikonia> rexy: ?
[15:11] <ikonia> ahh
[15:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:11] <rexy> ibc6-dev: /usr/include/stdio.h
[15:11] <bobbyd> sorry, I just quit by accident :)
[15:11] <Mal-NY> anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[15:11] <wols> !build-essential | i00_000i
[15:11] <ubotu> i00_000i: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:12] <simion314> so anyone  can tell me how cann i  change the task bar in compiz to have buttons for the open application? not the classic bar
[15:12] <Mal-NY> anyone see me? anyone run Darwin streaming server on Ubuntu?
[15:12] <dgjones> !repeat | Mal-NY
[15:12] <ubotu> Mal-NY: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:12] <flint> ampex, what an excellent handle, are you coming in from Hollywood?
[15:12] <ikonia> Mal-NY: stop asking every 10 seconds
[15:12] <Mal-NY> ok
[15:12] <i00_000i>  ikonia: i had been using fedora for past 4 yrs....jst tried my luck wit ubuntu....hope red hat is more student friendly version
[15:13] <carina> what a good remote desktop software?
[15:13] <ikonia> i00_000i: ok
[15:13] <ampex> Is there a way without using commercial software like rar to compress files/directories to multiple spanning volumes of a certain size?
[15:13] <elde1> Mal-NY: give it some time bro, im sure someone will come along who knows your answer.
[15:13] <ampex> flint: I've used it forever, why the hollywood question? Because of the old ampex corporation?
[15:14] <flint> ampex, exactly.  btw try dosbox.
[15:14] <flint> ampex, oops rather try tar with gzip...
[15:14] <Gpalco> People! How can I tell Ubuntu which IP to use in case it fales to receive one from a DHCP server ??? (I now how to specify one in addition the one given by DHCP, but it doesn't work if DHCP server doesn't respond at all)
[15:14] <ampex> flint: heh, dosbox, tar with gzip, same thing :)
[15:15] <flint> ampex, the spanning volume thing worries me... should it?
[15:15] <ampex> flint: I'm looking to split the compressed output among many DVD-Rs, so I need to split at certain a certain filesize, I don't believe tar+gzip can natively do this?
[15:16] <simion314> so anyone  can tell me how cann i  change the task bar in compiz to have buttons for the open application? not the classic bar
[15:16] <Yodude> Hey i have a SERIOUS problem ! i accidentily killed my friend's usb pendrive while trying to make it linux-bootable, it's not not even showing up when i do "lspci", what can i do ?
[15:16] <Vixen_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an external HD, I can't repartition the drive as it says it is "mounted". Can someone explain this, and how to fix it so I can repartition and install ubuntu with out damaging my internal HDs at all?
[15:16] <flint> ampex, look at partimage or mondo mindi.
[15:17] <flint> ampex I gotta go.
[15:17] <ubuntu> I have formatted a reiserfs partition to an ext3 partition. Is there anyway to recover some info? I mean, I would like if possible, to recover some stuff I had in reiserfs
[15:17] <pike_> Yodude: hide
[15:17] <bobbyd> Vixen_: right-click the external drive and select "unmount"
[15:17] <ubuntu> is it possible?
[15:17] <wols> mounted drives are the ones you can access Vixen_
[15:17] <elde1> Yodude: buy a new one. lol
[15:17] <Yodude> elde1: no really is it fixable ?
[15:17] <wols> ubuntu: no
[15:17] <elde1> Yodude: well what happend?
[15:17] <bobbyd> wols: need to unmount the drive to repartition
[15:17] <ubuntu> wols: thanks
[15:17] <Vixen_> bobbyd, wols: I'll then be able to repartition?
[15:17] <wols> Yodude: you shouldn't be able to kill it that way. and it will never show up in lspci
[15:18] <Omer_> ampex: try 7-zip, you can just apt-get or dl it from 7-zip.org
[15:18] <wols> Yodude: plug the device in and run "dmesg"
[15:18] <kbrooks> Yodude, it shows up in "lsusb"
[15:18] <wols> Vixen_: when it's unmounted: yes
[15:18] <Yodude> elde1: kbrooks: no it doesn't show up in lsusb anymore
[15:19] <Vixen_> wols: cheers, will I then be able to partition it into separate drives for linux and windows?
[15:19] <wols> Yodude: unplug the stick. reboot the machaine (cold boot). plug it back in. check dmesg
[15:19] <Gpalco> UbuntuGeeks! Q to you: How can I tell Ubuntu which IP to use in case it fales to receive one from a DHCP server ??? (Special thank you to Jowi_n1 and c9s who helped me learn how to specify one in addition the one given by DHCP! That's an amazing feature, but it only works if DHCP server DOES respond)
[15:19] <pike_> Yodude: lsusb will show it also dmesg | tail if you unplug replug
[15:19] <elde1> Yodude: its not one of those pen drives with the on off switches is it?
[15:19] <Yodude> elde1: no, it doesn't have any buttons
[15:20] <elde1> Yodude: then i would use pike's and wols advice
[15:20] <Yodude> elde1: when i plug it in the Os first detectsit and mounts irt and then after like 10 seconds it automatically unmounts it
[15:21] <B-rabbit> !pgp
[15:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:21] <Yodude> pike_: what does dmesg do ?
[15:21] <wols> Yodude: then it's not broken. repartition and reformat it
[15:21] <v3ctor> !gpg
[15:21] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:21] <B-rabbit> thnx
[15:21] <v3ctor> np
[15:22] <Yodude> wols: that's the problem, it's like shutting down after 10 seconds ! it's not a partition problem, cuz after 10 seconds of plugging it in the OS doesn't even recognize the device, and GParted doesn't even show iut
[15:22] <pvt_harv> hi guys, why can't i install clamtk (and clamav) using apt-get? it constantly displays that dependencies are not met. apt-get should have installed them too right? using synaptic, i've got the same error
[15:23] <whochismo> Hello! Can anyone tell me a way to make ubuntu use the ATI free driver? i updated the rectricted one and now i cannot start my session (unless in failsave mode)
[15:23] <simion314> where can i find the output from the boot time?
[15:23] <poningru_> whochismo, which one do you have?
[15:23] <Yodude> any ideas ?
[15:23] <poningru_> simion314, /var/log/messages or dmesg
[15:23] <pvt_harv> hi guys, why can't i install clamtk (and clamav) using apt-get? it constantly displays that dependencies are not met. apt-get should have installed them too right? using synaptic, i've got the same error
[15:23] <whochismo> what card? an ATI mobility radeon X600
[15:23] <wols> if the OS first assigns it a device and later disassaigns the device names there will be errors. please paste the dmesg outout
[15:23] <whochismo> and ubuntu 7.10
[15:23] <wols> *output
[15:24] <simion314> where can i find the output from the boot time?
[15:24] <wols> pvt_harv: pastebin the apt-get output
[15:24] <wols> !bootlog
[15:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootlog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:24] <whochismo> i tried to reinstall the restricted drivers that existed in ubuntu, but they don't work anymore
[15:24] <poningru_> whochismo, hmm is that an r300?
[15:24] <poningru_> whochismo, hold on
[15:24] <pike_> Yodude: i have trouble with usb and my main box. if you have a lappy or something you might try in in another machine also
[15:24] <Yodude> wols: the problem is that i don't have the usb with me anymore
[15:24] <bakarat> hi, for some reason when i try to write something to an usb stick, it will first cache whatever i want to do, and only once i unmount it, will it start writing, this is _very_ annoying
[15:24] <bakarat> what is the reasoning behind this and how can i stop it?
[15:25] <YouKnowMe> I'm trying to ssh into my chumby, which doesn't have a password, but I keep getting asked for one. I'm hoping this is a prob with my ssh client. Help?
[15:25] <wols> bakarat: mount it synced
[15:25] <Dr_willis> bakarat,  speed,  is the reason.
[15:25] <Yodude> pike_: it's not working on any computer i plug it into, wether it was Linux/Mac/Windows
[15:25] <bakarat> wols: it automounts, how can i change this?
[15:25] <wols> Yodude: what OS does this chumby run?
[15:25] <Dr_willis> actually ive sene windows do similer things.  :)
[15:25] <bakarat> Dr_willis: could you explain?
[15:25] <Vlet> YouKnowMe: your chumby?
[15:25] <bobbyd> bakarat: the reasoning is that it extends the life of your flash device because if you decide to write wiles and move them around, then delete them etc. you're shortening the life of your device
[15:25] <Dr_willis> bakarat,  it caches the writes so it can do them all at once in one big write = more efficient.
[15:25] <bakarat> Vlet: a rather useless but populair device :)
[15:26] <pike_> Yodude: i have to go sorry. screencast time. good luck
[15:26] <Vlet> bakarat: ahh :)
[15:26] <YouKnowMe> vlet, small networked computer
[15:26] <Yodude> wols: doesn't matter, i testted and it doesn't work on XP and Vista and Ubuntu
[15:26] <bobbyd> bakarat: what's the problem you have with it?
[15:26] <Dr_willis> bakarat,  also watch out for .Trash type directories getting made when you delete things.
[15:26] <poningru_> whochismo, ah ok here we go thats a rv380
[15:26] <whochismo> i tried to uninstall the restricted drivers (to see if gnome automatically used the free ones) but that was not the case
[15:26] <poningru_> need to do research
[15:26] <Yodude> pike_: thanks for the help anyway
[15:26] <poningru_> hold on
[15:26] <bobbyd> bakarat: you can force it to write the data by giving it "sync" from the command line
[15:26] <Vlet> YouKnowMe: what client are you using?
[15:26] <Yodude> so anybody has any ideas ?
[15:26] <bakarat> bobbyd: well for one, it takes a longer time then you would expect (since it only starts once you want to stop) and the latter has seemingly broken a flash drive of my m8
[15:27] <bakarat> bobbyd: another mate pulled it out after unmounting, but it was only then starting to write
[15:27] <YouKnowMe> vlet, OpenSSH_4.6p1 Debian-5build1, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
[15:27] <Dr_willis> bakarat,  ive done similer things under windows also. :)
[15:27] <xalanthyr__> Hi, I've got a problem - every time I log in i get the same message - "user's $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored". What's wrong?
[15:27] <whochismo> poningru, sorry, what do you mean with "r380" is it the version of the driver?
[15:27] <bobbyd> bakarat: I'm pretty sure windows does the same when you "safely remove hardware" no?
[15:27] <Vlet> YouKnowMe: then I would guess that it's the chumby asking for a password
[15:28] <bakarat> bobbyd: i doubt it a bit, since i've always been able to pull it out immediatly in windows, whereas in linux if you have a big file waiting, it will take a long while
[15:28] <Dr_willis> windows and its 'safely remove hardware' right now - tells me i can remove my internal SATA drive.. still not sure how. :P
[15:28] <Yodude> elde1: so is it doomed or what ?
[15:28] <Yodude> god i feel so guilty
[15:29] <bakarat> Dr_willis: i never said windows was perfect, far from it ;) i'm just saying i haven't had the same problem in windows :D
[15:29] <Dr_willis> You are NOT supposed to idmentaly pull it out on windows either. :)
[15:29] <Gpalco> I cannot believe Ubuntu doesn't have the "alternative configuration" feature in network setup like in Windows!
[15:29] <YouKnowMe> vlet, hmm, it shouldn't be. I followed the wiki and supposedly if I log into it as root there's no password.. well that sucks..
[15:29] <pvt_harv> wols: here's the apt-get output: http://pastebin.com/d77221747
[15:29] <DSpair> Gpalco: What do you mean? You can do that.
[15:29] <poningru_> whochismo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[15:30] <bakarat> Dr_willis: bobbyd is there a way to change a setting or something so it is automounted as synced?
[15:30] <DSpair> Gpalco: It's just different. It does the same thing, but the UI is different.
[15:30] <Yodude> wols: so do you think it's totally dead ? or is there hope for it ?
[15:30] <poningru_> whochismo, x600 is just the marketing term of the card
[15:30] <Vlet> YouKnowMe: Perhaps they mean "the password is blank". I doubt it will simply not ask for one.
[15:30] <whochismo> poningru, my intention is to install the free driver (in order to be able to login again), and then to use the restricted driver again
[15:30] <whochismo> oh, ok
[15:30] <whochismo> thnx
[15:31] <whochismo> i'll have a look
[15:31] <poningru_> whochismo, why do you want to use the restricted  driver?
[15:31] <pvt_harv> wols: here's the apt-get output: http://pastebin.com/d77221747
[15:31] <poningru_> the free one will work
[15:31] <Gpalco> DSpair, I have a Q to you: How can I tell Ubuntu which IP to use in case it fales to receive one from a DHCP server ??? (Special thank you to Jowi_n1 and c9s who helped me learn how to specify one in addition the one given by DHCP! That's an amazing feature, but it only works if DHCP server DOES respond)
[15:31] <whochismo> poningru, to be able to use compiz, and some 3D games
[15:31] <bluephantom> ^_________________^
[15:31] <whochismo> with the free driver they don't work
[15:31] <poningru_> whochismo, you can use compiz with the free driver
[15:31] <poningru_> just do what it says on there
[15:31] <wols> pvt_harv: apt-cache policy clamav
[15:31] <Mike1> lol
[15:31] <whochismo> are you sure?
[15:32] <wols> !info clamav
[15:32] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2.1 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[15:32] <whochismo> ok, i'll try
[15:32] <poningru_> and it will work with the free drive
[15:32] <poningru_> I just linked you to
[15:32] <whochismo> if it works, i'll keep using the free one
[15:32] <bakarat> Dr_willis: bobbyd or better yet, have a choice whether a file should be written immediatly (like a big 500+ meg file that takes very long if cached) while shorter files can be cached to save flash drive?
[15:32] <carina> openoffice doesnt start on my machine anyone know whats wrong?, the openoffice logo comes up but nothing happends after awhile
[15:32] <Mike1> carina: what happens when you start it via terminal?
[15:33] <carina> how u start it via terminal_
[15:33] <carina> ?
[15:33] <pvt_harv> wols: here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50596/
[15:33] <Mike1> carina: for example with  the command 'ooffice -writer'
[15:34] <Mike1> carina: or 'ooffice -impress' for OO Impress
[15:34] <MikeH> I'm having troubles with firefox and java, applets just come up grey as if they're not loaing
[15:34] <carina> ** (process:5418): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit
[15:34] <carina> that the error message i get
[15:35] <YouKnowMe> vlet, even leaving it blank don't work. But I agree with you. I guess there's no way to do it then, dang, I'll hop over to the chumby forums. Thanks.
[15:35] <poningru_> carina, reinstall it
[15:35] <poningru_> through synaptic
[15:35] <carina> okey
[15:35] <pvt_harv> wols: here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50596/
[15:35] <wols> pvt_harv: seen it. there is a clamav..
[15:36] <pvt_harv> wols: so what could possibly the problem?
[15:36] <wols> pvt_harv: list those missing dependencies explicitly on your apt-get install line
[15:36] <wols> you shouldn't have to do that however
[15:36] <IndyGunFreak> why not just go ahead an use synaptic to install it?
[15:36] <siakattackj> one question pls!!!
[15:36] <carina> where do lookit up as?
[15:36] <wols> pvt_harv: maybe one of the other dependencies but unlikely. but then, its universe
[15:37] <Mike1> poningru_: maybe carina should make aptitude purge openoffice.org
[15:37] <Vlet> !ask | siakattackj
[15:37] <ubotu> siakattackj: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:37] <siakattackj> i want to install skype.....but when i search for a package in apt-get, it doesn't exists
[15:38] <imaginaryboy> Trevinho,
[15:38] <Vlet> siakattackj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[15:38] <carina> how do i reinstall it under synatic when i cant find it
[15:38] <pvt_harv> wols: ok, i've tried to list down but it only aks me for more dependencies. ive' installed clamav and clamtk for many times already in many ubuntu desktops (7.10) and this is the first prob i encountered
[15:38] <siakattackj> %C6thanks
[15:38] <Trevinho> imaginaryboy: ?
[15:38] <siakattackj> thanks a lot
[15:38] <pvt_harv> wols: asks*
[15:39] <siakattackj> ok
[15:42] <idyllic> hi,  i am on ubuntu 7.10 and i got a problem with my Ctrl-Alt-Backspace shortcut keys. Instead of restart GNOME, it reboots my comp. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much.
[15:42] <pike_> hmm is alt-ctrl-backspace like a sigkill?
[15:43] <DSpair> pike_: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is supposed to reset X
[15:43] <loa> there are restarting X-Server
[15:44] <Xintruder> osed the connection)
[15:44] <Xintruder> * appaji has joined #debian
 ah ok
[15:44] <Xintruder> * CHC has quit IRC
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[15:44] <Xintruder> ops
[15:44] <idyllic> ya, i want it to reset X not rebooting my comp >.<
[15:44] <Xintruder> sorry about that
[15:45] <Xintruder> mirc copies wierdly copies unintendidly when i want to paste something i copied a long time ago
[15:45] <XinFei> a good cd burner besides Gnomebaker? any reccomendations
[15:45] <Xintruder> did ubuntumake use of the fingerprint input provided by sony, and maybe others.. ?
[15:45] <XinFei> omg another Xin
[15:45] <idyllic> is there anyway to restore ctrl-alt-backspace to the default reset X?
[15:45] <Xintruder> lol
[15:46] <Xintruder> xin for the win!
[15:46] <XinFei> lolz
[15:46] <Xintruder> XinFei u using linux atm?>
[15:46] <XinFei> i just thought it sounded cool.. but serious any reccomendations?
[15:46] <XinFei> yep >_> ubuntu
[15:46] <XinFei> notice the #ubuntu room
[15:46] <Xintruder> we can start an xin team!
[15:47] <Xintruder> at the ubuntu teams thing page
[15:47] <Xintruder> :p
[15:47] <XinFei> lolz i just need ur aim or msn
[15:47] <Pici> Xintruder: Not to my knowledge, I was able to get my Thinkpad's fingerprint reader to work by reading up on pam.
[15:47] <Pici> !ot
[15:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:47] <XinFei> ok sry Pici
[15:48] <Xintruder> can I change the ubuntu loading page?
[15:48] <Xintruder> at the booting phase
[15:48] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of a virtual machine which can work in Ubuntu which can run Windows?
[15:48] <Pici> !usplash | Xintruder
[15:48] <ubotu> Xintruder: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:48] <XinFei> with themes u can
[15:48] <XinFei> i think
[15:48] <XinFei> woot i was right
[15:49] <fogg> hello to all
[15:49] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[15:49] <Xintruder> XinFei come to the offtopic room!
[15:49] <Xintruder> hey Tetracomm
[15:49] <Pici> Tetracomm: Most of them can.
[15:49] <XinFei> whats that one?
[15:49] <XinFei> .... /join #offtopic?
[15:49] <Xintruder> #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:49] <Xintruder> :D
[15:49] <pike_> Xintruder: also add a grub splash if ya wanna be super cool and framebuffer w/penguin ;)
[15:50] <Xintruder> pike thx!
[15:50] <Tetracomm> Could you name one that has a GUI?
[15:51] <Tetracomm> Pici
[15:51] <Tetracomm> Pici: One of my programs won't work with Wine.
[15:51] <Pici> Tetracomm: Wine isnt a virtual machine though.
[15:51] <Tetracomm> Pici: Which is why I need the virtual machine to run Windows in Ubuntu.
[15:51] <Tetracomm> I know.
[15:51] <Pici> !vm
[15:51] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[15:52] <idyllic> hi,  i am on ubuntu 7.10 and i got a problem with my Ctrl-Alt-Backspace shortcut keys. Instead of restart GNOME, it reboots my comp. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you very much.
[15:52] <Pici> Tetracomm: Check out those things, ie: /msg ubotu vmware
[15:53] <Pici> idyllic: Does it reboot your computer even if you arent in gnome? like when you're first booting or if you're in windows if you dual boot?
[15:53] <idyllic> hmph, i havent try that Pici
[15:53] <idyllic> don't you mind, give me a min or two
[15:53] <Tetracomm> ubotu
[15:54] <idyllic> to test it out, will be right back
[15:54] <Tetracomm> !trigger
[15:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trigger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:54] <Tetracomm> !vmware
[15:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[15:55] <Tetracomm> !virtual machine
[15:55] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[15:55] <Pici> !msgthebot | Tetracomm  :)
[15:55] <ubotu> Tetracomm  :): Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Tetracomm:  try using   /msg ubotu vmware
[15:55] <Tetracomm> Sorry.
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Tetracomm: Dont worry about it too much...  I do it too often myself...
[15:58] <idyllic> Pici, i just tried it. Got this error msg: "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one"
[15:58] <idyllic> and I couldnt get the session loggin screen, have to force restart also
[15:59] <Pici> idyllic: hrm, I didnt think it would do that.
[15:59] <Pici> idyllic: Do you dualboot?
[15:59] <kurumin> chaneçs
[15:59] <idyllic> ya, i dualboot with xp
[15:59] <kurumin> af
[15:59] <Pici> idyllic: Does it reboot in xp if you do ctrl-alt-backspace?
[15:59] <idyllic> no, i got back to grub menu boot
[15:59] <bart> af
[15:59] <jdh6403> how do you install real player in ubuntu
[16:00] <bart> affff
[16:00] <bart> awe
[16:00] <Tetracomm> :)
[16:00] <bart> br?
[16:00] <idyllic> ctrl-alt-backspace just restart my comp normally. So ya, first thing come is the grub bootloader
[16:01] <Pici> idyllic: Are you sure that you are pressing backspace and not delete?
[16:01] <imoska> idyllic: open your xorg.conf
[16:01] <jdh6403> how do you install realplayer?
[16:01] <whochismo> poningru, it didn't work
[16:01] <Pici> !real > jdh6403 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:01] <idyllic> ya i m positively sure about that. Xorg.conf opened
[16:02] <imoska> show me your ServerFlags section
[16:02] <coldboot> How do I close NFS connections in the CLOSE_WAIT state when listed by `netstat -d`?
[16:02] <whochismo> I tried some similar things before, but it doesn't works, gnome is unable to start except in failsave mode
[16:02] <ChrisAshton84> are there x86 compatibility libs for x86_64 ubuntu?  I specifically need libtcl8.3.so
[16:02] <idyllic> i don't have ServerFlags section
 susctl
[16:04] <Xintruder> can i install ubuntu in my current vista laptop, if i dont have a partition available and want to convert my files to? :D
[16:04] <loa> it is not problem of NFS
[16:04] <Xintruder> <lazy butt
[16:04] <coldboot> loa: What is susctl?
[16:04] <loa> sysctl
[16:04] <ikonia> coldboot: he means sysctl
[16:04] <loa> yes
[16:04] <ikonia> Xintruder: no you can't do that
[16:05] <coldboot> So let's say I have this: "tcp       45      0 nhooey-xeon.ne.ende:nfs 172.30.62.57:51494      CLOSE_WAIT"
[16:05] <coldboot> How do I get rid of it with sysctl?
[16:05] <whochismo> anyone know a way to reinstall all the video drivers for ATI?
[16:05] <coldboot> whochismo: The proprietary drivers?
[16:05] <ikonia> whochismo: why do you want to re-install ?
[16:05] <coldboot> Probably because they're shitty and broken, as they always have been, and the acceleration never turns on.
[16:05] <Pici> !language | coldboot
[16:05] <ubotu> coldboot: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:05] <whochismo> coldboot, or the free ones, i don't mind, i just want to be able to start gnome
[16:06] <imoska> idyllic: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-495877.html
[16:06] <whochismo> ikonia, to solve one issue, i reinstalled the restricted drivers, and now i'm not able to start gnome
[16:06] <coldboot> Is there seriously anyone else in here but men from the ages of 16 to 50?
[16:06] <ikonia> whochismo: so how will re-installing them again fix it
[16:06] <coldboot> I don't see why the channel has to be "family friendly" in the puritan sense.
[16:06] <whochismo> ikonia, i have tryed that many times
[16:07] <valemon> in which repo can I find java runtime environment?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> coldboot: Please behave
[16:07] <whochismo> i've reinstalled the restricted ones and then the free ones, and none worked
[16:07] <ikonia> coldboot: thats an offtopic disussion, the rules are "family friendly"
[16:07] <coldboot> whochismo: Why is gnome not starting?
[16:07] <idyllic> ikonia: thanks, let me digest it first. Will get back as soon as i can
[16:07] <ikonia> whochismo you don't install the free ones, they are already part of xorg
[16:07] <coldboot> Swearing makes the language colourful.
[16:07] <whochismo> coldboot, it happened when i reinstalled the drivers, i don't know why
[16:07] <cronik> helle everyone and happy new years
[16:07] <coldboot> It's hard to describe ATI's Linux drivers without saying bad words.
[16:07] <ikonia> coldboot: please stop, this is not appropriate for a support channel
[16:07] <cronik> yea coldboot
[16:07] <whochismo> i mean, first i had the restricted drivers installed, with no problems
[16:07] <coldboot> whochismo: Yes but what's the error?
[16:08] <ikonia> whochismo: , so you have the restricted drivers with no problems
[16:08] <whochismo> coldboot, once i put my username and password, it won't load gnome, and takes me back the login screen
[16:08] <coldboot> whochismo: You need to tell us some sort of error from /var/log/Xorg.0.log or something.
[16:08] <ChrisAshton84> hi is there a channel specifically for x86_64 support or anyone who knows where to go for support online?
 yes yes... wait i give you a link
[16:08] <ikonia> whochismo: that may not be a driver issue
[16:08] <whochismo> i had the restricted, i tried to update them, and then everything started to fail
[16:08] <cronik> whochismo:
[16:08] <ikonia> whochismo: that could be no disk space, or permission to write to your home dir
[16:08] <whochismo> i tryed to uninstall them and install the free ones, but now gnome doesn't start
[16:08] <ikonia> whochismo: why did you try to update them
[16:08] <cronik> did you ever manage to get in or configure the the username and password?
[16:08]  * loa slap coldboot with your mum (CLEAN YOUR ROOM!).
[16:09] <ikonia> whochismo: what free ones, the restricted ones are the ones from ati.com
[16:09] <loa> ./usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt
[16:09] <coldboot> whochismo: Try to change the driver to vesa by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, just by changing the Driver "fglrx" to Driver "vesa", and try again
[16:09] <whochismo> i updated them, because there was an issue regarding the ability to hibernate my computer
[16:09] <whochismo> to vesa? let me try
[16:09] <coldboot> whochismo: Trying vesa will narrow the problem.
[16:09] <idyllic> ikonia: it doesnt work. And i am on 7.10
[16:09] <cronik> hello
[16:09] <coldboot> whochismo: Vesa is the most likely to always work
[16:09] <whochismo> yes, but
[16:09] <ikonia> idyllic: what was the question sorry
[16:09] <whochismo> don't you think it's rare
[16:09] <coldboot> So anyone know how to knock out a CLOSE_WAIT connection with sysctl?
[16:09] <cronik> cco
[16:09] <whochismo> that it works perfectly in failsave mode
[16:10] <ikonia> coldboot: sysctl won't do that
[16:10] <whochismo> and if i choose the normal session, it won't start?
[16:10] <coldboot> ikonia: Well someone else said that...
[16:10] <coldboot> ikonia: How can I get rid of it?
[16:10] <idyllic> my Ctrl-Alt-Backspace reboots my comp, but not restart X
[16:10] <ikonia> coldboot: I do'nt see how it could do that
[16:10] <whochismo> ok, i'll try that and i'll come back
[16:10] <poningru_> whochismo, do you have the restricted stuff uninstalled?
[16:10] <whochismo> see you (and thnx)
[16:10] <ikonia> coldboot: what is the process making that close wait ?
[16:10] <coldboot> ikonia: I killed some process on my machine "xeon" which has nfs-kernel-server running.
[16:10] <whochismo> poningru_, yes, i've nothing installed now
[16:10] <whochismo> (well, I have the free drivers installed, but they don't work)
[16:10] <coldboot> ikonia: Now any attempt to mount a drive that's on xeon, from "inspiron", results in a timeout.
[16:10] <ikonia> coldboot: where any clients connected ?
[16:11] <whochismo> (or only work in failsave)
[16:11] <poningru_> whochismo, just do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver-core
[16:11] <ikonia> coldboot: if you have killed the NFS server, it will time out
[16:11] <poningru_> or something like that
[16:11] <poningru_> I forgot the exact command
[16:11] <whochismo> i think i did some days ago...
[16:11] <coldboot> ikonia: No clients are connected now, I suspect all these close_waits are from me not unmounting nfs volumes before shutting down my laptop.
[16:11] <v3ctor> coldboot: yes it is
[16:11] <ikonia> coldboot: that is a reasonable assumption
[16:11] <whochismo> it lets me select again the screen resolution, driver, frequency, etc etc... but that doesn't solve anything
[16:11] <siakattackj> I have a laptop toshiba A210 with soundcard ATI SB600 azalia but i don't have sound...any help?
[16:12] <jdh6403> trying to play a dvd in gxine and this error message comes up   what do i need to do?    No demuxer found - stream format not recognised.
[16:12] <whochismo> isn't there a place where the error messages regarding the X11 are shown?
[16:12] <Pici> !dvd > jdh6403 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:12] <coldboot> ikonia: v3ctor: But that's not really a problem, 'cause I've shutdown my laptop so many times without unmounting the nfs volumes. It started timing out after I killed a process on the machine with the nfs volumes: "xeon"...
[16:12] <v3ctor> coldboot: is the NFS share still showing as mounted on the client?
[16:12] <poningru_> whochismo, do that again
[16:12] <coldboot> ikonia: v3ctor: Do you know how I could recover from this without rebooting xeon?
[16:12] <whochismo> i would like to see what really happens when i start session and x11 restarts itself..
[16:12] <Pici> whochismo: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:12] <poningru_> and this time dont do the -plow
[16:12] <kakashi> I have a problem configuring my network please help
[16:12] <whochismo> ok, let me see
[16:12] <poningru_> let it autodetect
[16:13] <coldboot> v3ctor: Nope, "mount" shows nothing to do with nfs on the client machine: "inspiron"
[16:13] <Bollinger> i've got a box which is seeing (random) access violations in dmsg, I've run a memory tester for a while with no errors detected. Is there another tool I could run which would detect flaky hardware?
[16:13] <hades[nb]> m
[16:13] <poningru_> Bollinger, stress
[16:13] <Pici> coldboot: The connections will timeout a dissapear on their own.
[16:13] <coldboot> Pici: They've been there for a day
[16:13] <kakashi> ikonia: can you please help me
[16:13] <poningru_> kakashi, whatsup?
[16:13] <Bollinger> poningru_: Thanks . I'll look into it.
[16:14] <whochismo> too much things on the log, i'll try to reconfigure the X11 again..
 /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt
[16:14] <v3ctor> coldboot: is the close_wait showing on the client or the server?
[16:14] <loa> there you can find how to decrease this time out
[16:14] <coldboot> loa: You've already told me about sysctl, could you tell me how it's used to knock out close_wait connections?
[16:14] <coldboot> v3ctor: Several on the server, all the old IP addresses of inspiron each time it connected to the network.
[16:15] <coldboot> v3ctor: But this is probably not the problem, I killed a process on the server, and now I time out when mounting NFS.
[16:15] <kakashi> poningru: ah!! thanks
[16:15] <v3ctor> coldboot: restart the process that you killed
[16:15] <Roshev> ##level
[16:15] <kakashi> poningru: it worked ;-D
[16:15] <scott_> Helllo World.
[16:15] <coldboot> v3ctor: Do you know how to restart NFS completely, 'cause /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart, and restarting nfs-common, both do nothing to help.
[16:15] <coldboot> v3ctor: I don't remember which process it was.
[16:16] <free_loader> is it possible to change the icons in Gutsy without changing the entire theme?
[16:16] <Chui> coldboot: why restart ? exportfs -rav
[16:16] <Roshev> ##level
[16:16] <JC_Denton_> I'm formatting a usb disk. How do I change the FS to vfat16 ?
[16:17] <cgs_bob> hello all.  is there an easy way to list the dependencies of a particular program?
[16:17] <poningru_> JC_Denton_, how are you formating it?
[16:17] <poningru_> what are you using to format?
[16:17] <shaft0> If I do a software RAID0 (or Linear) setup in Gutsy, and I want to add drives to that array in the future, will the added drives have to be the same size?  Like can I start it out with 2x500, then add a 300, or a 750, or 1000?
[16:17] <JC_Denton_> Not bothered - any util though fdisk is fine
[16:17] <coldboot> Chui: How long should this command take to return?
[16:17] <hades[nb]> cgs_bob, aptitude show <package_name>
[16:18] <Chui> coldboot: immediately ;-)
[16:18] <poningru_> shaft0, any partition of that size will do
[16:18] <poningru_> the 500gb
[16:18] <ikonia> shaft0 raid0 is a bad idea more so to use dynamiclly
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[16:18] <ikonia> shaft0: what reason do you want raid0 ?
[16:18] <Muppet-Boy> hiya, my kubuntu 7.10 system has started freezing for no reason :( is there a log i can check that might give a clue as to why?
[16:19] <cgs_bob> hades[nb]: I was looking for a command line, but I will try aptitude show...thanks!
[16:19] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy: syslog, messages ?
[16:19] <coldboot> Chui: Still timing out, didn't help at all.
[16:19] <coldboot> Chui: I suspect the same happens when you restart nfs-kernel-server.
[16:19] <poningru_> JC_Denton_, I would do fdisk and do m
[16:19] <JC_Denton_> poningru will fdisk write a single partition as vfat?
[16:19] <poningru_> it should have ability to change it to vfat
[16:19] <JC_Denton_> poningru thanks
[16:19] <poningru_> JC_Denton_, yeah
[16:19] <Chui> coldboot: is portmapper running ?
[16:19] <Muppet-Boy> ikonia : do you mean syslog.log?
[16:19] <coldboot> loa: That command says it's malformed, you can't space out the '=' symbol
[16:19] <hades[nb]> cgs_bob, don't quite understand... you need a console command, right?
[16:19] <ikonia> Muppet-Boy: ye,
[16:19] <poningru_> JC_Denton_, you have to do mkfs.vfat afterward though
[16:20] <ikonia> yes
[16:20] <shaft0> ikonia: basically i have drives of music, video, and software, i like the idea of using free space of one drive for another, while still keeping it sorted
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[16:20] <coldboot> Chui: Yes and it's been restarted which didn't help either.
[16:20] <ikonia> shaft0: then look at lvm
[16:20] <loa> this command fixes long timeout
[16:20] <ikonia> shaft0: rather than raid0
[16:20] <shaft0> linear?
[16:20] <loa> it will be 10 seconds
[16:20] <coldboot> loa: Is this going to apply to old close_wait connections, or only new ones formed?
[16:20] <Muppet-Boy> ok thanks i will check as soon as i can get to it! (its just gone offline again :( )
[16:20] <Roshev> ##level
[16:20] <Chui> coldboot: what is your prob anyway ? ;-) too lazy to scroll up
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[16:20] <ikonia> shaft0: what do you mean by linear ?
[16:20] <cgs_bob> hades[nb]: that's right.  in particular I want to see what programs depend on sip4
[16:20] <loa> tyr this
[16:20] <loa> try
[16:20] <shaft0> ikonia: is that the one that fills one drive, moves on to the next, then fills that drive, then moves to the next, and so on?
[16:21] <coldboot> loa: Is that 10 minutes or seconds?
[16:21] <ikonia> shaft0: you can set up the volume as you want
[16:21] <loa> i think you can try ifdown
[16:21] <coldboot> Chui: I killed some process on my server, xeon, which exports some directory as nfs.
[16:21] <loa> 10 seconds
[16:21] <coldboot> Chui: Ever since I did that, I time out when trying to mount the nfs volume from the client.
[16:21] <ikonia> coldboot: it would help if you stopped saying the server name as the name is quite confusing
[16:21] <timrit> Hello, Does anyone know why every time I log in after a restart or logout that it asks me if I want to use X settings or Gnome settings?
[16:21] <v3ctor> coldboot: did you kill that process for a reason?
[16:21] <hades[nb]> cgs_bob, you mean list programs that depend on the given one, or list programs, that the given one depends on?
[16:21] <coldboot> Chui: Restarting nfs-kernel-server, nfs-common, portmap, and doing the sysctl and your export -rav have all not helped at all.
[16:22] <coldboot> v3ctor: I thought it would help get rid of the stale connection, it was obviously a mistake.
[16:22] <Chui> coldboot: exportfs -uav ; and stop nfs-kernel server
[16:22] <JC_Denton_> poningru mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sdb' (use -I if wanted) ?
[16:22] <hades[nb]> cgs_bob, the aptitude show displays all information on the given package, including packages it depends upon
[16:23] <coldboot> Chui: Stop it first or after exportfs?
[16:23] <Chui> after
[16:23] <pocketprotector> can someone see if they can access data2logistics.com?
[16:23] <ikonia> timrit: pocketprotector why ?
[16:23] <coldboot> Chui: Then what?
[16:23] <ikonia> pocketprotector: why ?
[16:23] <coldboot> Chui: Start nfs-kernel-server again?
[16:23] <Chui> kill portmap
[16:23] <pocketprotector> because i cant get to it.
[16:23] <hades[nb]> pocketprotector, I can
[16:23] <robdeman> Why can't Dovecot / IMAP not create any subfolders in ~Maildir/ ?
[16:23] <Chui> and see if all nfs kernel processes are gone
[16:23] <ikonia> pocketprotector: it's fine
[16:24] <hades[nb]> join #initng
[16:24] <hades[nb]> sorry
[16:24] <Chui> kernel processes are between []
[16:24] <coldboot> Chui: Nah they're all still there.
[16:24] <Chui> coldboot: aight
[16:24] <cgs_bob> hades[nb]: I want to find the list of programs that uses sip4
[16:24] <coldboot> Man nfs is stupid
[16:24] <fogg> hello to all
[16:24] <Chui> coldboot: what procecces did you stop ?
[16:25] <bazhang> hi fogg
[16:25] <onizeth_> hi
[16:25] <Chui> coldboot: what distro ?
[16:25] <coldboot> Chui: I don't remember, something in "ps aux | grep -i nfs"
[16:25] <coldboot> Chui: Gutsy
[16:25] <ikonia> coldboot: just reboot
[16:25] <Chui> coldboot: ghighi... had it comin ;-)
[16:25] <onizeth_> hello
[16:26] <ikonia> coldboot: you don't know what you've done so it's easier to put the machine back to a known status
[16:26] <coldboot> ikonia: I can't, this machine is remote and I don't know if it will come back up.
[16:26] <shaft0> ikonia: basically what you're saying is that using LVM I can essentially mount all my drives to one location (say /media/disk) and then add disks as needed?
[16:26] <ikonia> coldboot: then you should treat things with more respect than killing processes and not knowing what you've done
[16:26] <Oli``> is it possible to give ext3 partitions names like ntfs ones?
[16:26] <coldboot> ikonia: Surely there's a way to get nfs to completely restart.
[16:26] <ikonia> shaft0: correct
[16:26] <coldboot> ikonia: That is obvious now.
[16:26] <ikonia> coldboot: there are many but as you don't know what you've done
[16:26] <shaft0> ikonia: awesome, sounds like a whole lot less setup and work than I was looking at :D
[16:26] <ikonia> coldboot: and if you're not sure if the box will come back up
[16:26] <ikonia> shaft0: it is
[16:27] <wols> Oli``: yes, with tune2fs
[16:27] <timrit> Hello, Does anyone know why every time I log in after a restart or logout that it asks me if I want to use X settings or Gnome settings?
[16:28] <hades[nb]> cgs_bob, sorry, i don't know... try asking at #debian
[16:28] <Chui> coldboot: second
[16:29] <cgs_bob> hades[nb]: thanks for your help...I'll try #debian
[16:30] <valemon> when installing java I cannot find sun-java6-bin, ubuntu 6.10
[16:30] <valemon> please help me
[16:30] <wols> !info sun-java6-bin edgy
[16:31] <Pici> valemon: I believe you need to enable the backports repository for that.
[16:31] <ubotu> Package sun-java6-bin does not exist in edgy
[16:31] <Pici> !java
[16:31] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[16:31] <m1chael> i have an asus a7n8x delux motherboard
[16:31] <m1chael> with an 80gb ide hard drive with windows xp installed on it.. i want to put another 80gb hard drive in, and dual boot with ubuntu (and have ubuntu installed on this new drive).. i've also got plans to add a sata card and put in a few more drives.. (and have both of these drives accessable from windows/linux) does all of this sound doable?
[16:31] <whochismo> Grrr, nothing worked...
[16:31] <[unix]> hm, anyone know something about _client_ java under x86_64?
[16:31] <whochismo> I still have the same problem
[16:31] <wols> m1chael: yes
[16:31] <ikonia> m1chael: yes
[16:31] <wols> [unix]: ask a real question
[16:31] <Chui> coldboot: rmmod nfsd exportfs lockd sunrpc
[16:32] <whochismo> gdm starts, but as soon as I log in, it restarts itself, except in failsave mode
[16:32] <jianuox> ..
[16:32] <ikonia> [unix]: #java will discuss random java comments with you all day
[16:32] <whochismo> isn't there a way to clone failsave mode to normal mode?
[16:32] <wols> whochismo: xsessin-error
[16:32] <whochismo> wols what's that?
[16:32] <ikonia> coldboot: just reboot it, you're going to have to gamble at some point
[16:33] <Arnaud__> Hello, does anyone can help me with Usplash screen ?
[16:33] <fogg> re-hello :)
[16:33] <rhs> m1chael: it is doable
[16:33] <whochismo> ohm, a file
[16:33] <Vlet> !ask | Arnaud__
[16:33] <ubotu> Arnaud__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:33] <Arnaud__> Well
[16:33] <Arnaud__> I've changes the uspash.conf
[16:34] <Pici> !enter
[16:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:34] <Arnaud__> so that it is now 1024 768
[16:34] <whochismo> (x-session-manager:5697): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[16:34] <Arnaud__> whcich is the real resolution of my screen
[16:34] <Arnaud__> After rebooting I had a kernel panic
[16:34] <Arnaud__> impossible to boot
[16:34] <Pici> Arnaud__: Please don't use the enter key as punctuation.
[16:35] <jianuox> hello
[16:35] <Arnaud__> sorry
[16:35] <whochismo> i don't understand the file .xsession-errors much...
[16:35] <JC_Denton_> trying to format my usb stick to fat16 and make it bootable but when running part after fdisk and mkfs I'm getting  loop disk labels do not support partition names.
[16:36] <italia90> !ciao
[16:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ciao - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:36] <italia90> !list
[16:36] <Pici> !it | italia90
[16:36] <ubotu> italia90: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:37] <zhonghong> dns cannot work ,but nslookup works well
[16:37] <whochismo> Fatal server error: no GLX visuals available -> translation?
[16:38] <coldboot> ikonia: Yeah it looks like I have to reboot.
[16:38] <evgeniXXX> i have a job running it's been "stopped" how do I remove it/kill it?
[16:38] <rhs> whochismo: what xorg server do you use ?
[16:38] <whochismo> rhs, how can I tell you this?
[16:39] <rhs> it's in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:39] <whochismo> ok, let me check
[16:39] <evgeniXXX> how can I kill a process that's been running?
[16:39] <evgeniXXX> what arguments for kill?
[16:39] <whochismo> by server, do you mean the driver?
[16:39] <Sopor> killall
[16:39] <rhs> whochismo: yes
[16:40] <whochismo> ati
[16:40] <rhs> whochismo: try vesa
[16:40] <whochismo> (vesa doesn't starts)
[16:40] <Sopor> killall processus or sudo killall processus if it is in root.
[16:40] <evgeniXXX> Sopor: killall still asks for me some inputs
[16:40] <whochismo> i've already tried it a few minutes ago
[16:40] <Pici> evgeniXXX: use ps aux to find the PID of the process, and then use kill PID
[16:40] <evgeniXXX> awesome, thanks Pici and thanks Sopor!
[16:40] <rhs> whochismo: is there a glx option in the xorg.conf
[16:41] <Sopor> np, the pici's answer is useful to me too ( :
[16:41] <whochismo> "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep glx" returns nothing
[16:41] <JC_Denton_>  loop disk labels do not support partition names.    How do I resolve this error to turn my usb stick partition bootable?
[16:41] <rhs> whochismo: and in capital GLX
[16:42] <whochismo> nothing
[16:42] <rhs> whochismo: are you sure it is not xgl ?
[16:43] <whochismo> there isn't any word referring to xgl or glx (and XGL and GLX) in xorg.conf
[16:43] <rhs> whochismo: can't help you then
[16:43] <whochismo> ok
[16:43] <whochismo> what i don't undrestand, is why in failsave mode it works perfect
[16:43] <whochismo> but not in the normal mode
[16:43] <jianuox> help me
[16:44] <RedHeron> jianuox: can't help if we don't know what the problem is.
[16:44] <Dr_willis> jianuox,  state the problem in a clear and concise maner. and see who can help.
[16:44] <DanB> I there any place to watch live tv..I use to go on abc.com..but that wont work with this os
[16:45] <poningru_> DanB, what do they use for streaming?
[16:45] <DanB> not sure it just told me they only support windows/ie/firefox
[16:45] <RedHeron> poningru: RealPlayer, WindowsMedia and FlashVideo.
[16:45] <poningru_> link?
[16:46] <rhs> whochismo: in the Sectin "Module" you could try to add "Load glx"
[16:46] <RedHeron> DanB: get VLC Player
[16:46] <DanB> where do i get that vlc player
[16:46] <whochismo> ok, i'll try
[16:46] <RedHeron> DanB: hold on, I'll get you the link
[16:46] <DanB> thanks
[16:47] <RedHeron> DanB: Try this...
[16:47] <mike4785> hi everyone
[16:47] <mike4785> quick question
[16:47] <EtteSB> anyone know a program for linux that rips music to MP3. sound juicer doesn't want to rip to MP3
[16:47] <whochismo> I don't have that section called "Module". Must i create it?
[16:47] <RedHeron> DanB: sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:47] <rhs> EtteSB: use command line lame
[16:47] <mike4785> you know how apple has there buttons on the bottom set up wats the plugin that lets you set up linux like that
[16:47] <Chui> coldboot: rmmod nfsd exportfs lockd sunrpc
[16:48] <Vlet> It looks like abc.com uses flash
[16:48] <Kuropon> using xchat I want to set
[16:48] <rhs> whochismo: try it
[16:48] <whochismo> ok
[16:48] <Vlet> DanB: Do you have flash installed in firefox?
[16:48] <scriptha> Is there a program to merger mpegs?
[16:48] <Marfi> DanB, did you install flash from the repos?
[16:48] <Kuropon> using xchat I want to set 'auto accept xdcc sends' but no one is willing to help in their channel. can anyone provide assistance?
[16:48] <ChrisAshton84> hi I installed the 32-bit libtcl but it has a broken link /usr/lib32/libtcl8.3.so -> libtcl8.3.so.1, only libtcl8.3.a exists in that dir.  can anyone confirm what libtcl8.3.so should point to?
[16:48] <DanB> i just upgraded to 7.10 last night
[16:48] <rhs> whochismo: at the beginning of the file
[16:48] <poningru_> hmm I believe they are being idiots and stopping based on UA
[16:48] <RedHeron> Vlet: Even if DanB does have flash, it sometimes doesn't work.
[16:49] <poningru_> DanB, hold on
[16:49] <rhs> whochismo: after the files Section
[16:49] <Filled-Void> What is the correct way of restoring all my updates and programs I have installed. AptOnCD only copies them locall I believe you have to select them from synaptic to actually install it. ANy alternative?
[16:49] <Vlet> RedHeron: wouln't be surprides.
[16:49] <Nostahl> hi all
[16:49] <mike4785> whats the plugin that lets you make the bottom of your screen look like apple
[16:49] <mike4785> ive seen it in youtube videos
[16:49] <Filled-Void> mike4785, Awn ?
[16:49] <MaKc> hi all )
[16:49] <Nostahl> sounds like a window manager?
[16:49] <RedHeron> Vlet: a lot of it has to do with the proprietary format Flash maintains.
[16:50] <Marfi> DanB, there is a checksum if you download flash from the repositories. if you click the flash file on the net, firefox will direct you to the install from adobe's site. install from there, and works lke a charm
[16:50] <Marfi> mike4785, avant-window-manager
[16:50] <RedHeron> Marfi: not necessarily
[16:50] <mike4785> u know how apple has those icons on the bottom that are shortcuts to programs/ in the right it is also the windows you have open
[16:50] <Marfi> RedHeron, have they fixed it?
[16:50] <Marfi> mike4785, its avant window manager. =)
[16:50] <mike4785> thanks!
[16:50] <RedHeron> Marfi: AMD64 platforms running 64-bit Ubuntu have issues with the flash player
[16:50] <DanB> im new to this so i may need help doing this
[16:51] <resnet> Anyone know how to get rid of this crackling noise that comes from any sounds played in Ubuntu? I am using an Intel HDA sound card. Turning down the PCM volume and other sound channels does not work. It is not specific to GStreamer. Anyone?
[16:51] <Marfi> RedHeron, ah, ok. just hopped on, and i thought it was something else. =)
[16:51] <RedHeron> Marfi: specifically because of code optimization issues.
[16:51] <Nostahl> what do the 64 bit processsors do different then regular processors
[16:51] <fb_> hi there. I have a small problem with kdenlive, anyone care to give me some help?
[16:51] <Filled-Void> RedHeron, Strange IM on AMD64 and running flash the update from the forum fixed my problem
[16:51] <RedHeron> Filled-Void: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:51] <Vlet> Nostahl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit
[16:51] <Nostahl> ty vlet
[16:51] <mike4785> will that overide advanced desktop effects settings that i alreaddy have runing or will they run in sync?
[16:52] <Filled-Void> RedHeron, Gutsy gibbon
[16:52] <RedHeron> Filled-Void: 64 version or 32?
[16:52] <Filled-Void> RedHeron, 64
[16:52] <DanB> can you guide me..im not sure what im doing..this is my 2nd day on this os
[16:52] <YouKnowMe> !off-topic youknowme
[16:52] <RedHeron> Filled-Void: I'll have to see if it fixes my issue, then! I haven't been able to watch YouTube since I got my new system.
[16:52] <Filled-Void> RedHeron, Installed recently?
[16:52] <mike4785> will that overide advanced desktop effects settings that i alreaddy have runing or will they run in sync?
[16:52] <RedHeron> DanB: what do you need?
[16:52] <rhs> Gutsy Gibbon comes with flash, you can add it in synaptics
[16:53] <RedHeron> Filled-Void: About 2 months ago.
[16:53] <Filled-Void> rhs, Isnt flash broken? It says so int he topic
[16:53] <Pici> !flashissues
[16:53] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:53] <RedHeron> rhs: the version of flash that came with it *is* broken.
[16:53] <DanB> i need help to install this flash
[16:53] <Filled-Void> RedHeron, Try the one in the thread ubotu says it might help.
[16:53] <rhs> RedHeron: ah, it seemed to work fine with mine
[16:54] <EtteSB> rhs: i dont seem to have lame installed and when i try and get it from apt it cant find it either
[16:54] <RedHeron> rhs: the issue is specific to the 64-bit AMD version because of code optimization issues, but pops up every so often.
[16:54] <DanB> do i go to add/remove programs
[16:54] <RedHeron> DanB, hold on.
[16:54] <DanB> tks
[16:55] <rhs> EtteSB: what does "apt-cache search lame"
[16:55] <resnet> Anyone know how to get rid of this crackling noise that comes from any sounds played in Ubuntu? I am using an Intel HDA sound card. Turning down the PCM volume and other sound channels does not work. It is not specific to GStreamer. Anyone?
[16:55] <RedHeron> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9
[16:55] <RedHeron> DanB: try that: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashPlayer9
[16:55] <Filled-Void> DanB, Just install the ubuntu0restricted extras package thenr ead the flash issue thread which you  can find out about by /msg ubotu flash
[16:56] <Filled-Void> resivolve, have a tv tuner card?
[16:56] <DanB> ok
[16:56] <Filled-Void> er I mean resnet ^
[16:56] <resnet> Filled-Void: No
[16:57] <resnet> Filled-Void: It is a pretty standard Gateway model.
[16:57] <Pici> !flashissues | DanB
[16:57] <ubotu> DanB: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:57] <poningru_> DanB, http://happylinuxthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/11/abccom-isnt-linux-friendly.html
[16:58] <EtteSB> rhs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50601/ only liblame0 comes up and i have that (there are others but they aint there)
[16:58] <tzd> I'll give this channel a try as well even though it's kde... I need help with a Kmail basic filter please?
[16:58] <Filled-Void> resnet, There is a thread about finish Intel HDA sound problems on the boards however I would only try it after rulling everythign else out likeplaying with the settings in alsamixer checking your wires and speakers stuff like that
[16:58] <Filled-Void> What is the correct way of restoring all my updates and programs I have installed. AptOnCD only copies them locall I believe you have to select them from synaptic to actually install it. ANy alternative?
[16:59] <resnet> Filled-Void: I have tried different headphones and different speakers. The sound quality was fine under Windows. I have tried adjusting settings in alsamixer, but nothing changes the situation.
[16:59] <resnet> Filled-Void: I have read different things about Intel HDA problems on Ubuntu, but I was not able to pinpoint a solution.
[16:59] <Filled-Void> resnet, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:00] <resnet> Filled-Void: Thanks.
[17:00] <evgeniXXX> does anybody know how to install ImageMagick (component for Gallery2)?  I tried using apt-get but it doesn't find the packge... new to linux, plz help :)
[17:00] <Filled-Void> resnet, Hope it helps. It did help me with my realtek problem
[17:01] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, sudo apt-get install imagemagick ?
[17:01] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void: tried that
[17:01] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, have enabled the necessary software sources?
[17:02] <evgeniXXX> how do you make the text appear to be red when you respond?
[17:02] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void don't know what you mean by that sorry
[17:02] <evgeniXXX> i have a tarball
[17:02] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Im using your name in the post hence it is red
[17:02] <Marfi> evgeniXXX, extract the folder and see if there is a .sh file in there
[17:02] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Are you on Ubuntu at the moment if you are go to System > Admin >Software Sources
[17:03] <evgeniXXX> Marfi and Filled-Void performing your suggestions now...
[17:03] <Marfi> kk  =)
[17:03] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, it is in the repositories cause I was able to do apt-cache search for it here.
[17:03] <Filled-Void> imagemagick - Image manipulation programs
[17:04] <Strel> Hi! Can somebody tell me how to wach satelite tv under ubuntu?
[17:04] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void what does that mean than?  What do I need to do to install it?
[17:04] <evgeniXXX> Marfi, there are some .sh.in files
[17:04] <scriptha> Is there an ubuntu program to merge videos?
[17:04] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Are you at your software sources window?
[17:04] <evgeniXXX> and winpath.sh
[17:05] <Marfi> evgeniXXX, you can extract them and run them with the terminal. it would be "sh <filename>.sh. they are scripts
[17:05] <Marfi> evgeniXXX, you should have an install.sh
[17:05] <fb_> can anyone give me a hand with kdenlive? when I load mpeg files from my dv camera, kdenlive only loads the video stream.
[17:05] <evgeniXXX> ok, i'll try that Marfi, Filled-Void, I am there also
[17:05] <Dr_willis> scriptha,  theres several video reencoder/encoder/tools out there. mencoder, avidmux, and others.
[17:05] <bitterbug> sigh. it always pays to check to make sure you down type shutdown -h now in the host terminal instead of the VM
[17:06] <guyvdb_> I am having a problem installing the package qt4-dev-tools - I get unmet dependency error from apt - qt4-dev-tools: Depends: libqt4-core (= 4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed - any ideas
[17:06] <Dr_willis> bitterbug,  or on a SSH session to a server. :)
[17:06] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Do you have anythign checked under Ubuntu software. I have the first four selected. once you do that you will get an option to reload packages then imagemagick should be available for install.
[17:07] <bitterbug> Dr_willis: hehe, yeah, it's a good thing i don't have shutdown privs on the SSH i was on
[17:07] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, have those first 4 things also checked...
[17:07] <snurre> im gonna set up ubuntu on this comp, but im having an issue with raid.. i currently have two drives in a raid array and one additional normal sata.. ubuntu doesnt seem to find the array, and only shows the drives separate.. im gonna install it on the 3rd, single drive, but will it mess up the already existing array?
[17:07] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void how do I reload packages?
[17:08] <bitterbug> i need to give myself a nice visual reminder of which systems i'm logged into
[17:08] <guyvdb_> snurre: just unplug the array for the install (physically)
[17:08] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Once you select somethign in there it will tell you it has to reload
[17:08] <Gpalco> Guys, is there a way to make a separate partition where all "home" data will be stored and/or imported/recognized during next Ubuntu install ???
[17:08] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Are you on UBuntu GUtsy Gibbon?
[17:09] <bitterbug> gpalco: yup! it's pretty straightforward to
[17:09] <spooge> hi
[17:09] <guyvdb_> can anyone help a dependency issue:  qt4-dev-tools: Depends: libqt4-core (= 4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[17:09] <snurre> guyvdb_: that was my initial emergency solution, yeah.. but once im done installing and stuff, will ubuntu be able to find the correct array?
[17:09] <bitterbug> gpalco: just format a partition/drive and copy your home folder contents to it, then once you've installed ubuntu just remap home to that drive
[17:10] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, I am not sure, but under "ubuntu software" tab in Software Resources window at the bottom it says, "Cdrom with Ubuntu 7.10 'Gutsy Gibbon' Officially supported" with a check next to it
[17:10] <mightybyte> Anyone know why my graphical package manager in Gutsy doesn't show all the packages that are available?
[17:10] <guyvdb_> snurre: not sure
[17:10] <phoenixz> I have a Dell latitude d620 laptop with external monitor, I just configured X for 2 monitors but once I switch to the external monitor of my laptop using fn+F8, I cant switch back.. is there anything known about that?
[17:10] <spooge> anyone know how to run linux off a thumb drive on a mac?
[17:11] <mightybyte> I have main, universe, restricted, and multiverse enabled.
[17:11] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Yeah that should be correct. Do you have the same thing enabled as mightybyte says above^
[17:11] <panosru> Hi, does anyone knows any app to convert Clone CD's img/ccd files into .iso file? i tried ccd2iso but it not works...
[17:11] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Did you do an update after that>?
[17:11] <Gpalco> bitterbug, I would like it to be like my >home< folder. Can I do that?
[17:11] <bitterbug> yup
[17:12] <bitterbug> that's what i have set up
[17:12] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Yes.  Specifically, openssh doesn't show up.
[17:12] <mightybyte> ...but I was able to install it manually with apt-get.
[17:12] <bitterbug> i have a 320 gig drive that's dedicated tom /home
[17:12] <bitterbug> to even
[17:13] <yacek19> hi
[17:13] <evgeniXXX> mightybyte, Filled-Void, what do I need to check in software resources?  I have the 1st 4 things checked on ubuntu software tab
[17:13] <yacek19> please help me, I have set my mouse to work with evdev, everything works good beside I can move it only up and down
[17:13] <bitterbug> then when i do a fresh install i just go into the partition manager and tell it that /home is on /sdc1 or whatever the drive is that i want to use
[17:13] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, openssh-client openssh-server these are the two packages I think
[17:13] <bitterbug> you can do it during the install, or leave it until after you've installed and just change the home location then
[17:13] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Try deselectign one and thenr eselectign ti and close that window and see fi it asks you to reload
[17:13] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Yes, I know.  But they're not visible in the graphical package manager.
[17:14] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, tyring this...
[17:14] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, In the left hand pane you have selected All is that correct?
[17:14] <mightybyte> I typed "ssh" in the search box and nothing showed up.  But both openssh-client and ...server should have been there.
[17:14] <brunno> alguém do Brasil?
[17:14] <mightybyte> Yes
[17:14] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Itshould ask you to reload packages
[17:14] <mightybyte> And in "Show" I have selected "All available applications"
[17:15] <brunno> #Brasil
[17:15] <taxman> hi I just did a backup and fresh install. I backed up my packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/  What is the best way to get all of those installed again?
[17:15] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, it did, and I did reload it... I'll try running apt get again
[17:15] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Try sudo apt-get install imagemagick and tell me if it works
[17:15] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, no dice
[17:15] <kamizhiro> hey
[17:15] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, case sensitive?
[17:16] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, :(
[17:16] <bitterbug> Gpalco: this is a good start: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[17:16] <MGalaxy> PLZ suggest me a GUI software for converting picture formats (any format to any format)
[17:16] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void it is just case sensitive... got it
[17:16] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Yes it should be but the spelling that I showed is correct I believe
[17:16] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void you rock, thanks... thanks mightybyte too!!!
[17:17] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Not sure why you would be able to  install through terminal but not synaptic. searching for oenssh returns nothign either right?
[17:17] <khaotik> was good people
[17:17] <taxman> MGalaxy: Gimp can do that. It's not terribly easy, but will work
[17:17] <Gpalco> bitterbug, thank you
[17:17] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Correct
[17:17] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, just to understand what the heck just happened.... so there is some apt-cache command... and i need to reload every once in a while to get the latest packages??  Trying to learn linux from scratch :)
[17:18] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Oh wait, typing "openssh" returs the package "Passwords and Encryption Keys"
[17:18] <MGalaxy> taxman: except that
[17:18] <taxman> MGalaxy: eh well, you asked. :)
[17:19] <bitterbug> Gpalco: no problem. I find it very handy when doing an install in a busy environment. I just ungplug the drive with the home folder on it so i don't get distracted and wipe it. do the fresh install on the system drive, reconnect the home drive and then map it to the new install.
[17:19] <mightybyte> Filled-Void, If it matters, I just installed ubuntu from an x86_64 liveCD a few days ago.
[17:19] <Whitor> Where can I adjust system audio volume in KDE ?
[17:19] <mightybyte> Filled-Void And I saw this same problem with another package a few days ago.  Can't remember which one though.
[17:19] <MGalaxy> taxman: I want a image viewer + image converter ( GThumb is not good at all)
[17:20] <DanB> ok i have vlc and the plugins installed but how do i use this to watch online video
[17:20] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, I dont think that the repositories would vary for the different install you used. I used the DVD install thought So im not sure if that caused it
[17:20] <taxman> MGalaxy: I only use gimp for that, so I don't know what to tell you. Like I said, it will work
[17:20] <mightybyte> Filled-Void, I have updated, so I would think that it shouldn't matter which CD I used.
[17:20] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, You would use apt-cache search to search for you rpackages and apt-get update to get updates.
[17:20] <barbarella> Whitor:kmix
[17:20] <P_Kable> Hi everyone. I just installed mplayer and I can't play any video: Failed to open file://*.mpg, *.avi ... all videos :|
[17:20] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Exactly
[17:21] <Whitor> thanks barbarella
[17:21] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Could you post me a screencap of your synaptic :x
[17:21] <Nicolaidis> help with gdesklet
[17:21] <barbarella> P_Kable:try it with VLC
[17:21] <mightybyte> Sure.  Where would I post it?
[17:21] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, Install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:21] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, ok I see, is that something i need to do every time i can't find a package I am looking for?
[17:22] <sluimers> Hi, how do I change an external HD from fat32 to ntfs?
[17:22] <MrFeetio> gparted
[17:22] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, What type of problems. I have some common problems given on my blog. filledvoid.com it contains the ubuntuthreads I used and the methods I used to correct mines
[17:22] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: FWIW, when I search for "vim" all I get is GVim.  vim-tiny and the others aren't there.
[17:22] <P_Kable> barbarella>>  I do not want vlc but mpalyer. Filled-Void I have this package already
[17:22] <Kuropon> is ti possible to have 2 OS running at the same time?
[17:23] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: You just want a screenshot of the main window?
[17:23] <Nicolaidis> when i start it gdesklwt becomes black and doesn't work
[17:23] <sluimers> how? the format to button is grayed out
[17:23] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, by any chance is your cd still in the software sources?
[17:23] <mightybyte> No, I took it out.
[17:23] <Nicolaidis> i install it from synaptic
[17:23] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, Could you check if vlc would play it at all. if it doesnt then it would tell if the codec is not installed
[17:23] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Should I put it back in?
[17:24] <Kuropon> is ti possible to have 2 OS running at the same time?
[17:24] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Add your cd to the sources if it is not there
[17:24] <P_Kable> vlc works fine
[17:24] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, Install gdesklet-data
[17:24] <lukewarm> Kuropon, yes
[17:24] <taxman> if I want to re-install all of my backed up debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/, can I just run aptitude install * in that dir?
[17:24] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  VLC ok
[17:24] <Nicolaidis> i 've installed it
[17:25] <RenatoSilva> [Compiz] The borders of my monitor attract windows. I've found how to deactivate attraction among themselves, but what about attraction between windows and monitor's borders?
[17:25] <barbarella> Kuropon:vmware
[17:25] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, SO you can play in vlc but not mplayer correct?
[17:25] <Kuropon> lukewarm, how would I go about running Linux with a cube interface(4 workplaces) and one of them being a window for windows
[17:25] <Kuropon> barbarella, ?
[17:25] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  correct
[17:25] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, You get no output at all or garbled output
[17:25] <Arelis> Hi all. I have a monitor with a resolution of 1440x900. I'd like to do many things at the same time, and see many windows at the same time. How do i do this? Already switched font DPI to size 70, makes everything good, but kind of unreadable. Or hard to read.
[17:25] <taxman> or is there a better way?
[17:25] <DanB> can someone help with installing flash player
[17:25] <netcrash> Hello , while mounting nfs4 volume I get the error can't read superblock, any tips ?
[17:26] <DanB> i have it downloaded
[17:26] <lukewarm> Kuropon, you use a virtual machine
[17:26] <Filled-Void> DanB, Downloaded? from where?
[17:26] <sandeep> does any one know of a channel specific to F-spot
[17:26] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: That didn't seem to change anything.
[17:26] <Kuropon> lukewarm, you'll need to elaborate pls
[17:27] <Filled-Void> taxman, Im looking for an easy way also I used aptoncd till now
[17:27] <lukewarm> !vmware
[17:27] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[17:27] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: I did apt-cdrom add
[17:27] <sluimers> DanB, how hard can it be? at most it's ./configure, make, make install, right?
[17:27] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, And you updated your package list?
[17:27] <lukewarm> Kuropon, ..googling...
[17:27] <Nicolaidis> Filled-Void: is this a common problem???
[17:27] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Not sure.  Running apt-get update now.
[17:27] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, is it working now?
[17:27] <DanB> i downloaded the tar.gz file
[17:28] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Why i ask is cause both of those packages are on my dvd
[17:28] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: It seems like synaptic is only displaying packages that have graphical interfaces.
[17:28] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  no output, only an error message "Failed to open file..."
[17:28] <Filled-Void> DanB, Why not install it from the repositories
[17:28] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, Avi ?
[17:28] <Nicolaidis> Filled-Void:i've installed it...it says that deamon does't work
[17:28] <P_Kable> avi and mpeg
[17:28] <lukewarm> Kuropon, have a look at http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/12/running-windows-inside-your-ubuntu.html
[17:28] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  avi & mpeg
[17:28] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Yeah.  I have installed openssh now, but it's still not visible in synaptic.
[17:28] <taxman> DanB: why not just use synaptic to install it?
[17:29] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, :( let me check one more thing brb
[17:29] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Ok.
[17:29] <Huhnz0r> hello. something got killed in my linux.from windows the ifs partition appears broken, booting up ubuntu, there is an x server error. now i`m here with the live cd. how  can i find out what exactly is my problem and then fix the existing ubuntu install? or just install the 7.07 over the broken dapper drake_
[17:29] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, http://www.filledvoid.com/2007/12/20/gdesklets-not-working-on-64-bit-installs/
[17:30] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, That might help
[17:30] <qolo> how can I get grep to not print the match, I only want the file names, so I can redirect its output to something that wants only filenames ( emacs )
[17:30] <DanB> ok i guess i have that figured out.but i still cant watch flash video online
[17:31] <Kuropon> lukewarm, sounds great tyvm.. you have any experience with this?
[17:31] <taxman> qolo: man grep, it's definitely in there
[17:31] <qolo> taxman: i have i topen, i cant find it
[17:31] <crush_groove> Huhnz0r,  you shouldnt skip distros on an upgrade .. go from dappy to edgy to fiesty..
[17:31] <rafi> hi all
[17:31] <lukewarm> Kuropon, no.
[17:31] <nixnoob> anyone know if i can access my home folder from windows on a dual boot?
[17:31] <taxman> qolo: ok hold on, haven't read it in a while
[17:31] <Kuropon> lukewarm,  +D
[17:31] <Arelis> Hi all. I have a monitor with a resolution of 1440x900. I'd like to do many things at the same time, and see many windows at the same time. How do i do this? Already switched font DPI to size 70, makes everything good, but kind of unreadable. Or hard to read.
[17:31] <crush_groove> !samba
[17:31] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[17:32] <Huhnz0r> crush_groove: oh i didnt know...but isnt installing the new one wiping the existing away anyways_
[17:32] <Nicolaidis> i'll try it
[17:32] <nixnoob> crush_groove, read the question its a dual boot not over the network
[17:32] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, For some reason i recall the same issue somewhere however I cant pinpoint it. I think there was changing x11 to something try a search for x11 mplayer cannot play avi Im sure it involved changing x11 to xv something
[17:32] <crush_groove> Huhnz0r,  no
  whats you resolution right now ?
[17:33] <taxman> qolo: -l is the switch you want I believe
[17:33] <Arelis> rafi: 1440x900
[17:33] <crush_groove> nixnnob .. thank you for telling to read the question
[17:34] <DanB> ok i can see the video but i dont have sound
 1 min..
[17:34] <crush_groove> Huhnz0r,  each distro builds on the last 1 with upgrades . if you skip from dapper to fiesty you may not have some libs or dependencys that fiesty needs that were in egdy .
[17:34] <Arelis> rafi: alright.
[17:34] <taxman> DanB: do you have sound for other things?
[17:34] <DanB> yes
[17:34] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  ok I try that
[17:35] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, Out of curiosity what server do you have set to get updates from
[17:36] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  no it won't work
[17:36] <qolo> taxman:  that got it thx!
 I think beryl does what you looking for
[17:36] <taxman> qolo: np
[17:36] <Arelis> rafi: i can't use that. I'd have to use xgl for that, but it's unstable.
[17:36] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, :( What was the exact error message you were getting and if it is big please use pastebin
[17:37] <crush_groove> sheesh this samba is just what I need I think
[17:37] <P_Kable> "failed to open file:///*.mpg
[17:37] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>   "failed to open file:///*.mpg"
[17:37] <nomic> what is the best resource for setting up dual head monitors with an ATI graphics card anyoneplese?
[17:38] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: "Server for U.S."
[17:38] <Felipe__> #faq
[17:38] <rafi> does anyone know  a stable program that it let you see multiples windows @ onece like beryl? please help <Arelis> if anyone know
[17:38] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, try just changing it to main server or eu and try again
[17:38] <taxman> ok I tried aptitude -s install * in my directory of backed up packages, but I get a lot of errors like "Couldn't find package "Desktop", and more than 40
[17:38] <taxman> packages contain "Desktop" in their name."
[17:39] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Ok.  I don't hane EU as an option.  Trying main.
[17:39] <Arelis> rafi: I mean, like, have much screen space, everything smaller, but still readable, so i can have many windows open at the same time, on the same screen, on the same workspace, and look at them all at the same time.
[17:39] <Arelis> Right now, it's so small it's burning my eyes
[17:39] <barbarella> P_Kable:you kidding me.... *.mpg !!!
[17:39] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Nope, still the same.  No openssh and nothing but GVim, in a "vim" search.
 i have a frind of my from work that it use that alot but his not here right now I just page him ok let u know later
[17:39] <Nicolaidis> Filled-Void: now i must change a script...how can i do it?
[17:39] <Nicolaidis> Filled-Void: now i must change a script how can i do it???
[17:39] <P_Kable> no kidding
[17:39] <P_Kable> same thing with *.avi barbarella
[17:39] <Arelis> rafi: ok
[17:40] <RenatoSilva> [Compiz] The borders of my monitor attract windows. I've found how to deactivate attraction among themselves, but what about attraction between windows and monitor's borders?
[17:40] <Dr_willis> theres settings in the ccsm tool for that.. somewhere.. :)
[17:40] <Arelis> Does anybody know how i can maximize screen space, have like 10 windows open but still be able to read the contents, all next/below eachother, on one workspace, non-overlapping?
[17:40] <nownot> how do i update ubuntu from the command line. also how do i update the kernel?
[17:40] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, Playing all your files?
[17:41] <Dr_willis> Arelis,  you mean auto-tile the windows. resizing them?
[17:41] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  yes
[17:41] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, can you play a single file?
 I use my console terminal with out borders
[17:41] <barbarella> nownot:apt-get upgrade
[17:41] <P_Kable> with VLC only Filled-Void
[17:41] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, Why create a script ?
[17:42] <jakel1> i have a bit of a problem... i installed Ubuntu 7.10, then i installed windows
[17:42] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, So when you play a single file with mplayer you get the same erro message with the file name?
[17:42] <jakel1> now i can only boot windows and not linux
[17:42] <Arelis> Dr_willis: That, too, if i can
[17:42] <jakel1> however the partition is still there cuz i can see it with Gparted live CD
[17:42] <P_Kable> Filled-Void>>  As I said above, yes
[17:42] <nownot> barberella : will that do kernel and all system stuff? i guess im asking what all will that update
[17:42] <qolo> jakel1:  thats why you do it the other way around
[17:42] <jakel1> and it still has linux on it
[17:42] <Dr_willis> Arelis,  tiling is a feature of the window manager. Some have it. some dont.
[17:42] <crush_groove> jake what drive is windows on ?
[17:42] <qolo> jakel1: insert a recovery CD
[17:42] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Ok, I tried another server.  Still no luck.  It really looks like I don't have any server (non-graphical) apps showing at all.
[17:42] <crush_groove> leys qodo have it
[17:42] <Clearzen> Could anyone recommend a piece of virtualization software for ubuntu
[17:42] <jakel1> hld on a sec....   qolo... what?
[17:42] <Arelis> Dr_willis: I'm using metacity right now
 install windows first then linux and you grub on lilo will take over your master boot sector
[17:43] <jakel1> lol... to many answers
[17:43] <crush_groove> clearzen openvm
[17:43] <jakel1> rafi is there a way to do it without having to reinstall windows
[17:43] <jakel1> errr.... linux as well
[17:43] <Clearzen> crush_groove: I've been looking at virtual box too. Do you know if it is any good?
[17:43] <qolo> yes - put in the live CD and boot into the existing linux
[17:44] <jakel1> ok]
[17:44] <crush_groove> Clearzen,  I havent used it
[17:44] <Arelis> Dr_willis: I'm using metacity right now. DOes that have it?
[17:44] <qolo> theres a way to tell grub to rewrite the MBR, im not sure how though you'll probably have to look for a tutorial
[17:44] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Oh, I feel stupid.  I just realized that I wasn't using synaptic.  I was just using the "Add/Remove" option from the Applications menu.
[17:44] <Clearzen> crush_groove: thanks
[17:44] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, gah check in synaptic :D
[17:44] <Dr_willis> Arelis,  no idea.. look and see if it does.. I dont use metacity. I doubt if it does.
[17:44] <Huhnz0r> ok so I now mounted the linux partitition in the live cd of ubuntu. the partitition seems to be fine and accessible. how can I solve the x server problems I get when trying to boot up ubuntu installed on that directory
[17:45] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: I did.  Everything's there.
[17:45] <mightybyte> Filled-Void: Now I know where to look.  Thanks for the help.
[17:45] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, :D
[17:45] <jakel1> it's booting now qolo
[17:45] <Filled-Void> mightybyte, yw
[17:45] <jakel1> hld on a sec
 yes boot from a live cd mount your hdd and run grub or lilo manually  you need to tell grub you boot martitions ok dont forget
[17:45] <rafi> brb
[17:46] <graelin> Anyone point me in the right direction for following: NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! ....
[17:46] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, do you know where apt-get install puts the binaries?
[17:46] <evgeniXXX> I need to get a path for it
[17:46] <nownot> when i try apt-get upgrade i get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[17:47] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: /usr/bin
[17:47] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, The files apt-get installs should be found in the /var/cache/apt/archives folder I think
[17:47] <Dr_willis> nownot,  you did 'apt-get update' first?
[17:47] <evgeniXXX> thank you , i will look there
[17:47] <nownot> err let me try that
[17:47] <aCiD2> Hi, the OS X side of my Mac has just blown up so I was going to take this oportunity to try Ubuntu on it. I can't install refit however, is this going to cause any problems?
[17:48] <Dr_willis> apt-get caches the debs it DOWNLOADS to  /var/cache/apt/archives, in theory the installed files could be going about anywehre. :)
[17:48] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Try the path Clearzen suggested I might be wrong here
[17:48] <nownot> good god 135 to be upgraded
[17:48] <aCiD2> I don't need to boot into any other operating systems - just Ubuntu
[17:48] <Dr_willis> nownot,  rember.. "update" then "Upgrade" :)
[17:48] <nownot> :) thanks
[17:48] <Huhnz0r> I have been having problems with my x-server, I don-t even know what happened. i didnt install anything new. so now i mounted my ubuntu in the live cd , how can I fix it_
[17:49] <Clearzen> Huhnz0r: What problem are you having with it?
[17:50] <Nicolaidis> Filled-Void: i must modify a script for run gdesklet on amd 64
[17:50] <jeeaar> question, I need to find the IP to a print server, I know the domain but need a terminal command to do a search???
[17:50] <Filled-Void> Nicolaidis, I usually modify files using sudo gedit path/to file
[17:51] <Dr_willis> jeeaar,  you could nmap the network, and see who all replies. :)
[17:51] <barbarella> jeeaar:ping maybe
[17:51] <Filled-Void> P_Kable, http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76259&highlight=mplayer+x11 this was the thread I had recalled seeing. Is this what you tried?
[17:51] <nownot> dr_willis: if i want to build a custom kernel where would i get started?
[17:51] <Dr_willis> nownot,  with lots of reading.. :)
[17:51] <Huhnz0r> Clearzen: when starting ubuntu as normal at somepoint the screen will turn blue and say x-server error and it wont boot up gnome but keep stuck in command line modus
[17:51] <Dr_willis> !kernel | nownot
[17:51] <ubotu> nownot: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[17:51] <Clearzen> jeeaar: nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24
[17:51] <barbarella> jeeaar:yes nmap  will do
[17:51] <nownot> well wont it run faster and more efficient?
[17:52] <jeeaar> well the ip will be 10.10.1.*
[17:52] <jeeaar> what is the n,ap command?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> nownot,  proberly not.
[17:52] <jeeaar> nmap**
[17:52] <Clearzen> Huhnz0r: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:52] <nownot> oh nvm then i thought it made a difference
[17:52] <salvatore_> hi
[17:52] <Clearzen> nmap -sP 10.10.1.0/24
[17:52] <jeeaar> why /24?
[17:52] <RenatoSilva> what's the better way to get the real current directory of a script (if it's a link, then get the real file dir)????? $(dirname "$(readlink -f $0)")?????
[17:52] <salvatore_> when i put on ettercap
[17:53] <ericvw> !wiki
[17:53] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[17:53] <ijn> hi all
[17:53] <zobf> High.
[17:54] <seenu> hi
[17:54] <nownot> ok im full of question. what is a program i can use to caputre packets on the network my computer is hooked up to. interested in username and pass and webpages viewed. and yes this is on my personal network
[17:54] <seenu> plz temme how to run a java prg thru GCJ
[17:54] <ijn> who is the alternative app to open ppt file
[17:54] <ijn> without installing open office
[17:54] <Huhnz0r> Clearzen: but will that command reconfigure the xserver of the "real" ubuntu or just the one of the live cd? how do i point it to the real one
[17:55] <Clearzen> nownot: Wireshark
[17:55] <seenu> without installin openoffice
[17:55] <seenu> i think v cant
[17:55] <salvatore_> when i put on ettercap and i chose sniff remote connections it say to me : MITM attacks can't be used on unconfigured interfaces      can someone help me?
[17:55] <barbarella> nownot:tcpdump
[17:55] <Clearzen> Huhnz0r: reboot and take out the live cd
[17:55] <ijn> powerpoint files
[17:55] <salvatore_> i have already looking in google
[17:55] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, Clearzen, I can't seem to find it there.... I installed imagemagick using apt-get install, but how can I find out where it physically put it?
[17:55] <seenu> i think v dont hav somethin lik powerpoint viewer in linux
[17:55] <salvatore_> please
[17:55] <Huhnz0r> Clearzen: and then when in commandline modus do this command?
[17:55] <ijn> seenu:what is the name of the app?
[17:56] <ijn> V?
[17:56] <salvatore_> give someone a sig
[17:56] <Pici> salvatore_: That is not supported in this channel.
[17:56] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, Tried /var/cache/apt/archives? if you are tryign to run the command then type man imagemagick
[17:56] <salvatore_> sign
[17:56] <salvatore_> why not?
[17:56] <salvatore_> it is abut ubuntu
[17:56] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: Go to synaptic and in there it should be listed as installed. If it is right click go to properties and there is a tab for installed files
[17:56] <salvatore_> about
[17:56] <jakel1> they should have a simple option on the live cd to just reinstall grub
[17:56] <Pici> !illegal | salvatore_
[17:56] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: It should be listed therre
[17:56] <ubotu> salvatore_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:56] <salvatore_> can u say to me the right channel please?
[17:57] <Pici> salvatore_: Man in the middle attacks fall into the 'questionably legal' category there.
[17:57] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: also find / -name imagemagick should work
[17:57] <seenu> plz temme how to run a java prg thru GCJ
[17:57] <evgeniXXX> Filled-Void, man page comes up, but I just need the path to binary files..., Clearzen, how do I go to synaptic?  (trying find /-name right now)
[17:57] <salvatore_> ok
[17:57] <salvatore_> im sorry for that
[17:58] <salvatore_> bye
[17:58] <ijn> open powerpoint in ubuntu gutsy 64 bit.
[17:58] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: System>>administration>>synaptic package manager
[17:58] <ijn> what alternative do I have??
[17:58] <vee_> hi all
[17:58] <ijn> eccept open office
[17:58] <evgeniXXX> Clearzen, no luck on find /-name imagemagick, trying synaptic manager
[17:59] <devilsadvocate> ijn ?
[17:59] <The-Warlord> sombody there with cisco and linux routers expierence (pls ingnore my worse english) [oder gehts auch deutsch]
[17:59] <Pici> seenu: The same way you would run any java program.
[17:59] <ijn> any ideas please?
[17:59] <devilsadvocate> ijn , whats wrong with open office?
[17:59] <ijn> to heavy
[17:59] <vee_> Im looking to install 7.10, i have 4gbs RAM - how much swap should i allocate?
[17:59] <devilsadvocate> ijn, i think koffice as a powerpoint equivalent, im not sure  though
[18:00] <ijn> any thing else?
[18:00] <devilsadvocate> vee_ , for normal usage minimal swap will do. but hibernation might not be possible without swap> ram
[18:00] <devilsadvocate> ijn, i'm not sure, but i dont think so
[18:00] <devilsadvocate> people use latex to make presentations, if you want :|
[18:00] <vee_> devilsadvocate would i be ok with 5gb swap or should i go for more then
[18:00] <ijn> anything that is not a whole package
[18:00] <Clearzen> vee_:  5GB is to much
[18:01] <Clearzen> vee_: 2GB is all you need really
[18:01] <ijn> like open office kofice
[18:01] <vee_> Clearzen thanx
[18:01] <The-Warlord> the swap memory will be used when you out of ram, this will take a while (with normal applications)
[18:01] <Pici> vee_: Are you going to hibernating your computer ever?
[18:01] <Yancho> how to check how much space i still got on my hard disk?
[18:01] <Filled-Void> evgeniXXX, System > Adminstration > Synaptic > Right click on imagemagick and then select properties
[18:01] <vee_> Pici not often
[18:01] <Pici> Yancho: df -h
[18:01] <Yancho> thanks Pichu0102
[18:01] <Yancho> Pici
[18:01] <evgeniXXX> Clearzen, I was able to locate it in synaptic manager, I clicked on it and under properties was able to find all the files it installed, thank you and thank you Filled-Void too!!
[18:01] <Clearzen> evgeniXXX: np
[18:02] <devilsadvocate> vee_, hibernation is the only problem you will have. if not even 1 gb of ram is more than sufficinet
[18:02] <Pici> vee_: If you do, you'll need more swap than ram.
[18:02] <devilsadvocate> vee_ , sorry.. 1gb of swap, not ram
[18:02] <cheeby> hi.  is there a better alternative to gdesklets?
[18:03]  * cheeby is new to gnome.
[18:03] <Filled-Void> cheeby, Screenlets
[18:03] <vee_> devilsadvocate so 2 gb of swap should let it go to hiber.?
[18:03] <devilsadvocate> cheeby, there were some widgets with compiz fusion. I dont know any details though
[18:03] <[unix]> vee_: no, you need 4 Gb swap or more to hiber
[18:03] <cheeby> running compiz here.
[18:03] <devilsadvocate> vee_, no. Hibernation basically puts all your ram onto the swap, so you will need >4gb
[18:03] <Filled-Void> cheeby, I just use conky I like it . Its light weight also and very customizable
[18:04] <Serg[GPRS]> hi ! i got a crappy USB ADSL modem, tried http://eciadsl.flashtux.org but it's config script asked me so many questions i was unable to answer
[18:04] <vee_> Pici thanx, i keep get dif. answers but i htink it soundsw like more swap than ram is better ( [unix] )
[18:04] <vee_> devilsadvocate 5gb it is!
[18:04] <temetz> how can you define port that xchat connects to ?
[18:04] <Serg[GPRS]> may i still hope to config it, or only option is to buy Ethernet modem ?
[18:05] <vee_> devilsadvocate should all my partitions be Primary?
[18:05] <cheeby> Filled-Void, is conky a window mgr?
[18:05] <devilsadvocate> vee_, none of them need to be primary :)
[18:06] <cheeby> devilsadvocate, looking into it now...
[18:06] <vee_> devilsadvocate so stick with all my partitions being logical
[18:06] <evgeniXXX> I am very impressed with this forum, this is amazing support, thank you everybody!
[18:06] <cheeby> all I want is a decent weather and calendar desklet.
[18:06] <XxValetexX> hello
[18:06] <cheeby> something that doesn't crash when I try to change something.
[18:06] <XxValetexX> is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[18:06] <vee_> XxValetexX hello
[18:06] <Whitor> XxValetexX: yes
[18:06] <Filled-Void> cheeby,http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[18:06] <devilsadvocate> cheeby, i dont relally remembey but i dont think conky has that
[18:06] <Pici> cheeby: no, conky is a customizable system monitor, not a window manager.
[18:06] <jakel1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows i am using this tutorial and i have a question about one of the steps
[18:06] <XxValetexX> Whit ty
[18:06] <monkeyBox> Is there any way to unpack a ".sit" file in ubuntu?
[18:06] <XxValetexX> Whitor: thnaks :D
[18:07] <Filled-Void> cheeby, Id recommend screenlets then if you dont like gdesklets
[18:07] <cheeby> Pici, thanks.
[18:07] <jakel1> the sixth step reads, title Windows XP/Vista # You can use any title you wish, this will appear on your grub boot menu
[18:07] <jakel1>  rootnoverify (hd0,0) #(hd0,0) will be most common, you may need to adjust accordingly
[18:07] <jakel1>  makeactive
[18:07] <jakel1>  chainloader +1
[18:07] <cheeby> Filled-Void, ok.  apt-get install...?
[18:07] <Yancho> Y am I getting FTP error 553 for a folder named : elev_contour_3m
[18:07] <iOn|FuXeD> cheeby go to gnome-look.org and search for Screenlets, see if their "look" is appealing then
[18:07] <devilsadvocate> vee_, whatever you like. usually the boot partition is kept primary, but most modern bioses seem to be able to havndle grub on a logica partition also
[18:07] <XxValetexX> Whitor: I wanna get one of those tasty quad cores from AMD :X
[18:07] <Filled-Void> cheeby,  Yup you would do an apt-get install of the package you want
[18:07] <jakel1> after rootnoverify is that hd0,0 suppose to reflect where windows is or where Linux is
[18:08] <cheeby> ah.
[18:08] <devilsadvocate> cheeby, if you are willing to run kde aps (they will eat up extra ram if you run them on gnome) then superkaramba is awesome
[18:08] <cheeby> devilsadvocate, yeah, I ran superkaramba when I was on kde (gentoo).
[18:08] <vee_> devilsadvocate thanx.... in the middle of reinstalling and last time i just made every partition Primary.... wasnt sure if that was a good or bad thing.... I guess I'll keep the system partition Primary
[18:08] <cheeby> this is a new machine.
[18:09] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! Had some problems with compiz and my NVidia 8800 GTS, so after much doubt i installed the drivers using Envy... now when I try to enable compiz/desktop effects Ubuntu says it wants to install the restricted drivers... what to do!?!?
[18:09] <cheeby> so I put ubuntu on it to see how I liked it, trying to give it a fair shake.
[18:09] <devilsadvocate> vee_, you cant have more than 4 primary partitions, included the extended one. PLan your partitioning scheme ar0ound that
[18:09] <Filled-Void> Superkaramba is ncie but wont that require kde dependencies as well?
[18:09] <santh_> how to resume download from bit torrent plz help me
[18:09] <santh_> how to resume download from bit torrent plz help me
[18:09] <imaginaryboy> NorthByNorthWest,
[18:09] <imaginaryboy> 8800gt support comes with new 169.04 nvidia drivers
[18:10] <Filled-Void> santh_, By clicking on it?
[18:10] <vee_> devilsadvocate at this point I only have Ubunutu on it... but I will keep it to just one primary for now.... and logical for all oterh partitions
[18:10] <santh_> how to click
[18:10] <santh_> i cant find it
[18:10] <nils_> hey guys
[18:10] <Filled-Void> AFAIK there should be a torrent client installed by default
[18:10] <XxValetexX> santh_: thats y I use deluge
[18:10] <NorthByNorthWest> imaginaryboy: according to 'NVIDIA X Server Settings' I have 169.07 installed
[18:10] <PirateHead> Filled-Void: It's a crappy torrent client, but it will download torrent files.
[18:10] <imaginaryboy> ah ok
[18:10] <nils_> how can I boot the desktop livecd without X11 (I only want console because I use it via IP KVM)?
[18:10] <imaginaryboy> so it's ok
[18:10] <santh_> help me plz
[18:11] <graelin> what config would I alter vmalloc size in? Getting NVRM rmInitadapter failed error.. says to boost the vmalloc size
[18:11] <Filled-Void> PirateHead, hey it does work. I hear that deluge is good . but I think it kind of hogs resources :x
[18:11] <santh_> what is deluge
[18:11] <XxValetexX> santh_: maybe using deluge and starting it over would be asier for you?
[18:11] <PirateHead> nils_: Can't. Use the server CD instead.
[18:11] <cheeby> Filled-Void, yeah.  superkaramba requires kdelibs and I think kdebase.
[18:11] <NorthByNorthWest> imaginaryboy: I would think so, but compiz wont enable!
[18:11] <Karyom> PirateHead have you tried KTorrent?!
[18:11] <XxValetexX> santh_: or you can just browse your files and check where you are downloading it to and click it
[18:11] <Filled-Void> cheeby, Whichis why i satyed away from it
[18:11] <jakel1> how do i list partitions to find out which one has windows installed to it?
[18:11] <santh_> how to resume download from bit torrent plz help me
[18:11] <santh_> how to resume download from bit torrent plz help me
[18:11] <santh_> how to resume download from bit torrent plz help me
[18:11] <nils_> PirateHead: alright. Will I get a normal console then, or only setup dialog?
[18:11] <Nostahl> im having troubles using flash drives with ubuntu. it says i do not have permissions to use them?
[18:12] <imaginaryboy> maybe you have problems with xorg.conf, some particoular settings in it for the 8800gt... but I cannot help you , sorry :(
[18:12] <cheeby> Filled-Void, yeah.  and oops, kdebase is gentoo-speak.
[18:12] <PirateHead> Filled-Void: GTK-based Deluge, Qt-based Ktorrent, and Java-based Azureus are all good clients. The one that comes with Ubuntu is very bare-bones, implementing only the most basic functionality.
[18:12] <Pici> !repeat | santh_
[18:12] <ubotu> santh_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:13] <Karyom> have tried the Torrend client from Gnome, it didn't start
[18:13] <RenatoSilva> DIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -f $0)") is a good way to get script dir?
[18:13] <Filled-Void> PirateHead, Agreed
[18:13] <santh_> i download a file in bittorrent then i shut down the system. i want to resume that download what to do
[18:13] <jakel1> i need to determine whether  windows is installed to hd0,0 or hd0,1 or something else.... how can i find this out?
[18:13] <imaginaryboy> Filled-Void, deluge is the best in my opinion for gnome desktop. If you want some lightweighted try transmission, always for gnome
[18:14] <PirateHead> santh_: What bittorrent client are you using? That's an important factor,
[18:14] <Pici> santh_: just open the torrent file and save it at the same location you started the other one at. it should resume.
[18:14] <Clearzen> jakel1: I believe that is the setup command from within grub
[18:14] <Nostahl> how can i change the permissions on flash drives to my user instead of root only
[18:14] <Filled-Void> imaginaryboy, My crappy connection has a 1gb lmiit so I dont download from torrents alot . However I do have 2 MBps as speed :x
[18:14] <Clearzen> jakel1: sorry it is find not setup
[18:14] <santh_> i am using ubunt 7.10
[18:15] <Clearzen> !grub
[18:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:15] <PirateHead> Filled-Void: 1gb per what time unit?
[18:15] <XxValetexX> !lilo
[18:15] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[18:15] <XxValetexX> why is it recommended to use Grub instead of LILO?
[18:15] <jakel1> clearzen: find then what?
[18:16] <jakel1> or do i just type find?
[18:16] <imaginaryboy> I have to go now, bye @ all
[18:16] <Nostahl> what do i search for im trying to figure out how to allow my user to access flash drives instead of just root
[18:16] <XxValetexX> imaginaryboy: bbye
[18:16] <PirateHead> XxValetexX: It's better-supported and more developed technololgy.
[18:16] <Filled-Void> PirateHead, Nope :( I month I can upload / download 1 Gb only . The connection is kind of cheap also. INR 250 . For unlimted it is INR 900 with 256 kbps
[18:16] <Filled-Void> PirateHead, No other providers
[18:16] <santh_> how to enable trash
[18:16] <XxValetexX> PirateHead: OH TY
[18:16] <barbarella> jakel1:fdisk -l
[18:16] <XxValetexX> PirateHead: :)
[18:16] <RenatoSilva> DIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -f $0)") is a good way to get script dir?
[18:17] <Pici> RenatoSilva: This would be better answered in #bash, since you don't seem to be getting an answer here.
[18:17] <Clearzen> !grub
[18:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:17] <Nostahl> pici do you by chance know what i need to do to give permissions to my user account to access my flash drive
[18:18] <Nostahl> pici it says root under permissions on it only atm
[18:18] <rskousen> How do I make a remastered ubuntu/kubuntu CD with system settings like hostname and network settings customized as well?
[18:18] <Clearzen> jakel1: find /boot/grub/stage1
[18:18] <jakel1> that just tells me where grub is installed
[18:19] <jakel1> not where windows is
[18:19] <Pici> Nostahl: Either use sudo to access it (which you probably dont want to do), or chown the mount point to your user
[18:19] <Filled-Void> How would I make a correct backup of my system in such a way that i can install all programsna nd updates I have at the moment in one go?
[18:19] <cheatr> rskousen: I would try out reconstructor
[18:19] <jakel1> i am trying to add windows to the boot loader
[18:19] <Nostahl> !chown
[18:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:20] <barbarella> jakel1:fdisk -l, to find out where the partition is
[18:20] <cheatr> Filled-Void: You could copy everything in / to an external hard drive
[18:20] <Nostahl> pici what do i search for to learn how to use chown
[18:20] <jakel1> fdisk -l does not list anything
[18:20] <jakel1> just returns a new command line
[18:20] <Pici> Nostahl: man chown
[18:20] <Pici> jaggy: sudo fdisk -l
[18:20] <Nostahl> !man chown
[18:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man chown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:20] <Filled-Void> cheatr, How would I reinstall that on my hard disk ? Install Ubuntu and then cpy all contents from cd to / ?
[18:20] <jakel1> ah ok,,,
[18:20] <Pici> Nostahl: on your terminal.
[18:20] <jaggy> Pici what ?
[18:21] <Nostahl> got it ty
[18:21] <PirateHead> Nostahl: that's a terminal command. "man" means read manual pages.
[18:21] <Pici> jaggy: sorry, tab-complete mishap
[18:21] <verve> is there any problems charging iPods through USB in Linux?
[18:21] <jaggy> xd
[18:21] <jakel1> i see... but it doesn't distinguish whether it is hd0,0 or hd0,1
[18:21] <cheatr> Filled-Void: You would reinstall Ubuntu and then boot off of the live cd. From the live cd you could copy the files back
[18:21] <nownot> running ubuntu server can i run wireshark in gui mode?
[18:21] <jakel1> that's what i need to determine
[18:21] <PirateHead> verve: Some people do have problems, but most older ipods should have good support.
[18:21] <verve> the icon on it says charging.. maybe it takes longer than i thought, but i didn't seem to use that much of the battery last night
[18:21] <Pici> nownot: Not if you havent installed an X server.
[18:21] <verve> PirateHead: it's a Nano 3G
[18:21] <PirateHead> !ipod | verve
[18:21] <ubotu> verve: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:21] <rich__> how do create a filesystems
[18:21] <rskousen> cheatr: thx, I have been working with remastersys, and doing the manual way ie chroot and mkisofs, but I can't seem to make the changes stick, even editing casper init scripts and rebuilding initgrz, I will give reconstructor a go
[18:22] <nownot> what would that package be?
[18:22] <jakel1> i have windows and linux installed on the same drive, but i need to add windows to the bootloader
[18:22] <Dr_willis> jakel1,  if windows is on hda1, theres a example entry in the menu.lst for it - you can just uncomment.
[18:22] <PirateHead> !dualboot | jake1
[18:22] <ubotu> jake1: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[18:22] <Filled-Void> cheatr, That sounds feasible thanks. Is there anyway I could like create an install which includes all these debs (I ahve 580 M of them with updates and stuff) and get them to install while installing Ubuntu?
[18:22] <verve> PirateHead: meh, not the same issue.. files transfer fine with Amarok & libgpod3 0.6.0
[18:22] <jason___> Hello all
[18:22] <jakel1> windows is on /dev/sda2
[18:23] <nils_> hmm seems like the server version doesn't contain any livecd, just setup
[18:23] <PirateHead> verve: So it just isn't getting any charge?
[18:23] <cheatr> Filled-Void: remaster is meant to be able to do that. I personally haven't used it though.
[18:23] <jakel1> Dr_willis:
[18:23] <xamox> what's a good sound mixer package? Ubuntu has my sound working correctly but I want to mute my microphone because it is staying on and giving feedback. I want to keep my mic because I use it with skype.
[18:23] <cheatr> Filled-Void: However, it won't back up your personal documents and settings (afaik)
[18:23] <jakel1> alsamixer in command line xamox
[18:23] <jason___> Can anyone tell me where i can get themes for ubuntu
[18:24] <Pici> !themes > jason___ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:24] <jakel1> gnome-look.org
[18:24] <verve> PirateHead: well i'm not sure.. i've had it plugged in for almost an hour now, little less.. but i didn't seem to use much of the battery last night
[18:24] <bluefox83> i already asked in #xchat, so i suppose i'll ask in here since i didn't et an answer...the bar at the top of xchat that has file and view and all those things, is gone and i have no idea how to bring it back, i've even tried restarting xchat...anyone know how to fix it?
[18:24] <verve> like maybe 1/4 of it, or less
[18:24] <jason___> i am having a hard time finding them...
[18:24] <jakel1> jason_ gnome-look.org
[18:24] <verve> thought it'd be full by now
[18:24] <vee_> devilsadvocate I have two 500 gb drives, can each drive have up to 4 primaries or is it 4 primaries total?
[18:24] <Filled-Void> cheatr, Thanks will check that too. I was hoping of somehow make an image and just install everything as it is in one go :x .  have tonnes of documents also like assignments and stuff :(
[18:24] <jakel1> Dr_willis: windows is on /dev/sda2
[18:24] <bluefox83> nevermind, it's f9
[18:24] <Nostahl> woot im using a flash drive lol
[18:24] <nils_> damn it
[18:24] <Nostahl> i wonder why it didnt work out of the box
[18:25] <Dr_willis> jakel1,  so? :) you will need to change the example entry then I guess. with the right hd##
[18:25] <Nostahl> and i had to chown to my user name manualy to let me write to flash drives
[18:25] <barbarella> jakel1:and (0,1) on menu.lst
[18:25] <jason___> thank you.
[18:25] <whochismo> Hi all again!
[18:25] <jakel1> Dr_willis: yes but i dnt know what the correct hd#,# is that is what i need to know
[18:25] <jason___> on gnome-look.org i am not sure what to download
[18:26] <whochismo> poningru_, finally i've repaired my computer
[18:26] <jakel1> what barbarella?
[18:26] <cheatr> Filled-Void: I would also try searching the forum. There are probably other solutions there. What I did for my computer was generate a list of all installed programs. I also copied all of my documents and settings (the /home/yourusername folder) to a hard drive. Then, when I reinstalled ubuntu, I just had it install all programs from the list (there is a command to do this), and copied all of my files to my /home folder
[18:26] <jason___> i am a XP guy coming to linux for the last time.
[18:26] <vee_> I have two 500 gb drives, can each drive have up to 4 primary partions or is it 4 primary partions  total?
[18:26]  * bluefox83 wonders if barbarella is the same barbarella from irc.scifi.com back a few years ago...
[18:26] <whochismo> anyone knows if it's possible to enable compiz using the ati free drivers?
[18:26] <hodoaliu> hi
[18:27] <barbarella> jakel1:and (0,1) on menu.lst
[18:27] <Filled-Void> Ahh thats interesting. Definitely worth a shot :). Thanks for the help cheatr going to check that out
[18:27] <Dr_willis> jason___,  theres a lot of themes in the repos - not installed by default also.. of course if you are using compiz. it can use its own themes for the window decorations.
[18:27] <Tyczek> how to check if the HDD is working at full dma and 32-bit (it is 16 by standart)
[18:27] <rexy> whochismo: using the open source drivers its' possible to use compiz
[18:27] <Dr_willis> isent there a gnome tool that an auto-grab/download/install themes?
[18:27] <jakel1> barbarella: how do u know that is what i want?
[18:27] <barbarella> jakel1:look at line 39/42 in menu.lst
[18:27] <whochismo> rexy, but how? i've been trying for more than an hour
[18:27] <cheatr> Filled-Void: No problem. I'm not in irc often, but you can look me up on the forums (cheater) and send me an email if you want more help
[18:27] <jakel1> yes.....
[18:27] <whochismo> in every tutorial that i've read, they end up changing to the restricted drivers..
[18:27] <jakel1> ok
[18:27] <Filled-Void> Thanks . you ar eon ubuntuforums right?
[18:28] <rexy> whochismo: not sure, there's a wiki about it i think
[18:28] <barbarella> jakel1:line 40 must be:  root          (hd0,1)
[18:28] <rexy> whochismo: i got it working using the open source driver, what video card do you have?
[18:28] <Filled-Void> jason___, Thersa very basic guide to themeing here at tuxenclave.wordpress.com
[18:28] <cheatr> Filled-Void: Yeah, cheater on ubuntuforums
[18:28] <jakel1> but my question is how do u know it is on hd0,1?
[18:29] <whochismo> an ati mobility raden x600
[18:29] <rich__> how do create a filesystems
[18:29] <bluefox83> Jakal, first partition of first hard drive...that's what that notation means
[18:29] <Pici> !gparted | rich__
[18:29] <ubotu> rich__: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[18:29] <rich__> it says device busy or in use
[18:29] <stoone> hi, how to install postfix and exim4 the same time? i have postfix running but i want to switch to exim but during the change i want to have both, but when i trie to install exim4 it sais that it will remove postfix.
[18:29] <jakel1> then what is hd0,0?
[18:29] <rexy> whochismo: should work i'd say, got any usefull errors in X log?
[18:29] <cheatr> rich__: unmount the device/drive
[18:30] <rich__> its not mounted
[18:30] <Filled-Void> jakel1, First partitino on first drive
[18:30] <whochismo> if I run the "compiz" command, I get: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[18:30] <jason___> thanks DR and Void
[18:30] <jason___> i will look this afternoon  i have bookmarked the info
[18:30] <jakel1> Filled-Void i thought hd0,1 was first partition on first drive
[18:30] <Filled-Void> AFAIK  drive and partition numbering starts from 0 might want to confirm
[18:31] <bluefox83> jake_, uhm...either boot sector or first partition of first drive, and hd0,1 is second partition of first drive...i don't know if it starts counting at zero for both partition and drive...
[18:31] <whochismo> rexy: plus "Blacklisted PCIID '1002:5462' found" and "aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity" (nothing else)
[18:31] <rich__> then what do i do?
[18:31] <MasterShrek> Filled-Void, in grub they do, in the os they start at 1
[18:31] <jakel1> so i want to replace hd0,0 with hd0,1 ?
[18:31] <Filled-Void> MasterShrek, Thanks I need to check that up more I still have this weird WIndows XP and Ubuntu dual boot problem on a sata and ide
[18:31] <jakel1> basicallt
[18:32] <grep100> hd and not sd?
[18:32] <bluefox83> doesn't grub use the bsd method of drive identifying?
[18:32] <MasterShrek> jake_, if you want to use the second partition on the first hard drive
[18:32] <rich__> what do I do blood?
[18:32] <jakel1> oh ok...which i probably do since the windows was installed after ubuntu
[18:32] <seenu> hi
[18:32] <jakel1> brb... i'm gonna try it and see if this works
[18:33] <seenu> can anyone temme how to run a java prg thru gcj
[18:33] <rich__> its funny because i ahve posted on ubuntu forum and there are loads of views but no responses, looks like no one knows how to make the FS when that error apperats.
[18:33] <rexy> whochismo: oooh,
[18:33] <rexy> whochismo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611877 maybe that helps
[18:33] <Pici> seenu: java programname
[18:34] <sofbored> why ~/bin is not added to the PATH at startup even if .bash_profile tells to do so?
[18:34] <whochismo> oh, thanks!
[18:34] <whochismo> let me check
[18:34] <MasterShrek> sofbored, is it: export $PATH=$PATH:~/bin     ?
[18:35]  * loa_ slap coldboot with a tortoise.
[18:35] <rexy> whochismo: were you using the binary ati drivers (flg something) or the open source ati/radeon drivers?
[18:35] <loa_> i found another cool option
[18:35] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I need the directory /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4?
[18:35] <whochismo> rexy, they say to install the restricted drivers...
[18:35] <stoone> how to install exim4 without removing postfix? apt-get install exim4 wants to remove postfix.
[18:36] <sofbored> MasterShrek: I have to manually add it anytime ...gonna check again anyway
[18:36] <rexy> whochismo: from what i gather ubuntu blacklists some cards because they dont work that well, also said ati/radeon drivers where not blacklisted, so i'd try those then if the binary restricted drivers aint working
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[18:36] <astaX> [19:34] <astaX> i've octave ver. 3.0
[18:36] <astaX> [19:35] <astaX> and the command gsplot give this message
[18:36] <astaX> [19:35] <astaX> error: undefined near line 1
[18:36] <astaX> [19:35] <astaX> why?
[18:36] <jakel1> wtf... now it's only booting windows now...
[18:36] <jakel1> back to where i started
[18:36] <nownot> anybody here good with wireshark i can pm for help?
[18:36] <rexy> your syntax is incorrect, also dont paste
[18:36] <jakel1> it doesn't even show grub
[18:36] <MasterShrek> !grub
[18:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:36] <MasterShrek> jakel1, follow the first link
[18:36] <rexy> nownot: just ask here or in the wireshark channel if there is one?
[18:37] <jakel1> MasterShrek: i did those steps
[18:37] <MasterShrek> jakel1, also it may be wise to write or draw out your partition scheme so you dont get confused when setting up
[18:37] <nownot> if i want to use wireshark but only for specific ports ie traffic in and out of 192.168.2.7 what would the command look like
[18:38] <MasterShrek> jakel1, well obviously you didnt if grub doesnt load, windows still "owns" the mbr
[18:38] <stoone> nownot: try the filter: tcp.port == xy
[18:38] <jakel1> well after i did it linux started up
[18:38] <jakel1> but the bootloader never came up
[18:38] <MasterShrek> hmm
[18:38] <jakel1> and i went to edit the menu.lst file
[18:39] <grep100> anytime you install windows, any windows product or reinstall windows it will overwrite the mbr and you will lose access to grub
[18:39] <mike4785> hey everyone
[18:39] <mike4785> does anyone here use netbeans?
[18:39] <Trae> can Ubuntu open rar files by default? (and if so what tool can) and if not is there an easy UI to do it?
[18:39] <rexy> nownot: there are some examples if you click on the filter button, something with port == <portnumber> iirc
[18:39] <MasterShrek> !rar | Trae
[18:39] <PurpZeY> Trae: Yes.
[18:39] <PurpZeY> Trae: It's called file roller
[18:39] <jakel1> ok...well screw grub... is there a way to use windows bootloader instead
[18:39] <nownot> im doing straight gui b/c im on ubuntu server
[18:39] <iOn|FuXeD> Trae rar is in the repo, not installed by default
[18:39] <MasterShrek> jakel1, its much harder than using grub
[18:39] <ubotu> Trae: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[18:39] <MasterShrek> i dont eve know if its possible
[18:39] <mike4785> everytime i install it, it will load fine but then when the gui opens up its grey but i can still use it i.e. i can open up a new file
[18:40] <grep100> yes actually you can use the windows boot loader to load linux
[18:40] <MasterShrek> jakel1, you are better off using grub, its not that hard, you probably missed something
[18:40] <jakel1> MasterShrek, well it is very hard... if followed the steps exactly for about 3 hrs now, and it's not working
[18:40] <mike4785> does anyone here use netbeans?
[18:40] <mike4785> everytime i install it, it will load fine but then when the gui opens up its grey but i can still use it i.e. i can open up a new file
[18:41] <Pici> mike4785: You might want to make sure that you are using java5 or java6 and not the gcj java.
[18:41] <jakel1> i changed the menu.lst to hd0,1 and now it's only booting windows
[18:41] <mike4785> is this a error with netbeans or with my graphics card?
[18:41] <mike4785> j
[18:41] <mike4785> k
[18:41] <sofbored> MasterShrek: sorry for insisting but the last line in my bash_profile reads a bit different. It doesn't export it
[18:41] <Trae> !unrar-free
[18:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrar-free - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:41] <Pici> mike4785: if you have the java packages installed, you can do `sudo update-alternative --config java` to change it.
[18:41] <MasterShrek> sofbored, iirc, i always had export in there...
[18:42] <grep100> to use the windows bootloader, which I don't recommend, all you have to do is edit the boot.ini file in windows, you need to learn the arcpath syntax but its not very difficult
[18:42] <george1974> hello...
[18:42] <nownot> stoone: i dont understand with the tcp thing
[18:42] <george1974> I would like to ask if there is any opensource CRM that I could use that is based on Php and Mysql?
[18:43] <rexy> jarba, no whats it called
[18:43] <Pici> !ot
[18:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:43] <rexy> jumla
[18:43] <ubuntu> Where may I download ubuntu server hardy? Is there any beta>
[18:43] <ubuntu> ?
[18:44] <Nostahl> what program can i use for syncing a mp3 player in ubuntu
[18:44] <george1974> I would like to ask if there is a tool for form design but visual something like MX for ubuntu
[18:44] <Pici> !hardy | ubuntu
[18:44] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:44] <brobostigon> Nostahl: gtkpod is you have an ipod
[18:44] <Nostahl> i have a sandisk m240
[18:44] <jhonovich> dig command cannot be found on ubuntu dapper; any ideas on how to resolve this?
[18:45] <brobostigon> Nostahl: help.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <santh_> trash box is disappear what to do plz help me    trash box is disappear what to do plz help me   trash box is disappear what to do plz help me
[18:45] <grep100> I like this room, the ops never get mad, are always friendly and helpful, a real credit to unbuntu
[18:45] <PurpZeY> santh_: What do you mean?
[18:45] <mike4785> ive got java 5 hwo do i enable it though
[18:46] <santh_> recycle bin is disappear what to do
[18:46] <Pici> mike4785: run (in a terminal) `sudo update-alternatives --config java`
[18:46] <jeeaar> question about nmap.. currently switching from a novell based network to a server 2003 network. I need to know the IP address for a dlink print server, so it can be reconfigured. I have no idea what subnet this thing was on, but need a physical address to access the web gooey.
[18:46] <Pici> santh_: This is the last warning, please stop repeating.
[18:46] <PurpZeY> santh_: Where did it disappear from?
[18:46] <santh_> i just altering the panel
[18:47] <PurpZeY> santh_: Just right click on the panel and add the trash back
[18:47] <kavok2> Is there a way to lockdown a desktop in Ubuntu? Im looking for the equivalent of windowskey+L on windows XP
[18:47] <Pici> jeeaar: I'm not sure if nmap is going to be able to help you with that.  You might have better luck asking for hints on how to do that in ##networking
[18:47] <vee_> when partiioniing a drive.... does swap always go at the end?
[18:47] <mike4785> nope still a nice grey box
[18:47] <jeeaar> thank you, piki
[18:47] <MasterShrek> kavok2, i know there is a command....cant remember....maybe alt+l   ?
[18:48] <santh_> purpzey when right click no such option plz
[18:48] <kavok2> MasterShrek: Didn't seem to do anything
[18:48] <kavok2> There has to be a way to quickly lock the computer
[18:48] <mike4785> i did the command i selected java runtime to be used opened netbeans and still get a grey box
[18:48] <Pici> kavok2: ctrl-alt-l by default iirc
[18:48] <wweasel> My laptop is being repaired under warranty and I have no trust that they will leave my 2 Ubuntu partitions alone and safe; how would you recommend I backup the entire partitions to an external hard drive, so I can later restore them?
[18:48] <bronzewalla> can anyone help me to get my new ipod nano to work with amarok?
[18:48] <PurpZeY> santh_: Right click --> Add to panel --> Trash
[18:48] <PurpZeY> !ipoid | bronzewalla
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipoid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <wweasel> !ipod
[18:48] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[18:49] <kavok2> Pici: Thanks, is there anyway to change that?
[18:49] <wweasel> bronzewalla: Never mind, that won't help
[18:49] <mike4785> i did the command i selected java runtime to be used opened netbeans and still get a grey box
[18:49] <Pici> kavok2: System>Preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[18:49] <sofbored> MasterShrek: it is surely cause I got very limited understanding of bash but it reads:  PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" inside the if but doesnt export
[18:49] <phoenixz> Im using a dell d620 latitude laptop with I945 chipset. I just got the external monitor working as well with the i810 driver for X, but direct rendering is not working.. How can I find WHY its not working? or does anybody know how to fix this??
[18:49] <santh_> thanks with love purpzey . purpzey is great bye happy new year
[18:49] <Whitor> hi, How do I empty trash in KDE? I don't have a trash icon on my desktop...
[18:49] <|Zippo|> somebody uses a linux floppy disk?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Whitor,  dont have one on the panel? bottom right?
[18:50] <Whitor> Dr_willis: nope
[18:50] <laughzilla> hi :)  in ubuntu 7.10, what' the syntax of the gnome explorer or firefox to use  scp to a remote server?  ie: in konqueror it's:  fish://blah.tld
[18:50] <vee_> Pici could you help me on partitioning my drive.... I plan to use 30 gbs for "/" , 5 gbs for swap and the rest of my 500 gb for "/home"
[18:50] <mike4785> i did the command i selected java runtime to be used opened netbeans and still get a grey box
[18:50] <Whitor> Dr_willis: didn't have volume either ... had to install kmix
[18:50] <MasterShrek> sofbored, try replacing that with: export $PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[18:50] <Dr_willis> Whitor,  what ya do with it? :) ya could go to trash:/ in koneueror i guess.
[18:50] <Pici> vee_: okay.
[18:50] <wweasel> bronzewalla: My 2nd gen nano worked out of the box. I know Apple applied new encryption to the 3rd gen nano which screwed everything up. See this for a fix: http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[18:50] <vee_> Pici Im not sure in what order it should be partitioned... primary/logical
[18:51] <Whitor> Dr_willis: Konquerer doesn't have trash icon either
[18:51] <Pici> vee_: Er, I usually leave it whatever the defaults are honestly.
[18:51] <Dr_willis> Whitor,  you could right click on the panel add applet to panel 'trashcan' or whatever its called.
[18:51] <sofbored> MasterShrek: tnx for the input. But I was wondering why .bash_profile comes like that
[18:51] <unagi> themes arent showing up in the theme manager......anyone know why?
[18:52] <wweasel> My laptop is being repaired under warranty and I have no trust that they will leave my 2 Ubuntu partitions alone and safe; how would you recommend I backup the entire partitions to an external hard drive, so I can later restore them?
[18:52] <vee_> Pici i see, if i leave it up to the defaults it makes my swap 12.2
[18:52] <bronzewalla> thanks, yeah my 2nd gen nano worked fine out the of the box, but my girlfriends new video nano wouldn't work
[18:52] <MasterShrek> i dont know sofbored
[18:52] <Pici> vee_: I mean, use the default partition type that it suggests, not necessarily the default sizes.
[18:52] <Whitor> Dr_willis: Thanks... that did the trick
[18:52] <sofbored> MasterShrek: ok. Thanks anyway
[18:53] <vee_> Pici you mean use guided then?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> Whitor,  i Much perer trash in the panel where i an alwyas get to it. ;)
[18:53] <Pici> vee_: I dont know... its been a while since I did a fresh install, I can't even remember what the screen looks like, sorry.
[18:53] <vee_> Pici hehee.. thats kewl
[18:54] <mrga_cro> hi, what is wrong with kaffeine, it looks like he alwasy forward the movie
[18:55] <Nostahl> do you guys think the gtkpod will sync a sandisk sansa player?
[18:55] <vee_> can anyone else provide assist. with partitioning? specifically order or partitions.
[18:55] <brobostigon> Nostahl: gtkpod is purely for ipod
[18:55] <Nostahl> ah
[18:55] <vee_> that was order of partitions
[18:55] <Nostahl> what should i get for my sandisk m240 mp3 player
[18:55] <RenatoSilva> #pidgin
[18:56] <PurpZeY> Nostahl: Have you checked the forums?
[18:56] <Nostahl> no
[18:56] <Nostahl> thought someone in here would know easily
[18:56] <PurpZeY> Nostahl: That's a good place to start with things like b/c someone is bound to have the same mp3 player
[18:56] <Xintruder> hi
[18:57] <Nostahl> do you have a link to the fourms
[18:57] <bronzewalla> i used rhythmbox to transfer music to my friend sansa, worked ok
[18:57] <bronzewalla> i remember it was a major headache though
[18:57] <Pici> Nostahl: exaile and rhythmbox should both be able to do it.
[18:57] <Nostahl> ty
[18:57] <PurpZeY> !forums | Nostahl
[18:57] <ubotu> Nostahl: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[18:57] <Pici> Nostahl: As well as Amarok if you're willing to use that.
[18:57] <bronzewalla> Pici: i love exaile only supported the ipod driver?
[18:57] <toni_> hi guys
[18:58] <brobostigon> Nostahl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices
[18:58] <toni_> today i have no problem with ubuntu :)
[18:58] <Pici> bronzewalla: I think there is a plugin for using any disk based storage.
[18:58] <bronzewalla> oh ok, i could only find the ipod device driver
[18:58] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I need the directory /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4?
[18:58] <Yancho> how can i know if /home/yancho is stored on /dev/hda1 or hda7 please?
[18:59] <brobostigon> yancho: df -h
[18:59] <The-Warlord> can some tell me how i can make an arp entry in kubuntu?
[18:59] <Xintruder> hey guys
[18:59] <vee_> should you always label your drives when partitioning?
[18:59] <Yancho> brobostigon there is no /home there or it is the / ?
[18:59] <The-Warlord> manuallly
[18:59] <Nostahl> woot its workin ty guys
[19:00] <Pici> The-Warlord: sudo arp  -s  ADDRESS  HW_ADDRESS
[19:00] <Xintruder> im using an sz-premium sony laptop, If i Install ubuntu, any heads up for problems i might face?
[19:00] <brobostigon> yancho: if there is no seperate /home its probebly on /
[19:00] <The-Warlord> THX
[19:00] <Pici> The-Warlord: man arp for more
[19:00] <Yancho> ok thanks brobostigon
[19:00] <Marfi> i just updated to the latest version of wine. anyone else noticed a problem with sudo wine <file> and getting "you are not the owner"?
[19:00] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I am using a sony vaio and I ran into 0 problems
[19:00] <Marfi> Xintruder, have you tried the live disk eyt?
[19:00] <Marfi> *yet
[19:00] <Xintruder> PurpZeY, does it install all device driver I need?
[19:00] <quittt> how do I change the corrections that XCHAT makes to another language, since I'm writting in both Englis and Portuguese?
[19:00] <Xintruder> Marfi not on my laptop
[19:01] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Try the liveCD
[19:01] <Marfi> Xintruder, try it. =)
[19:01] <quittt> I feel that's useful these correction stuff
[19:01] <Xintruder> u got it
[19:01] <MarcoPau> hello, since I upgraded to gutsy I can't print and get this error in the cups' printer page: /usr/lib/cups/backend/mfp failed. Does anybody have a hint?
[19:01] <Xintruder> PurpZeY, do u know about the camera and w/nic, does it install it on its own?
[19:01] <directchar> hi. anybody know anything about realPlaye 11 for linux?
[19:01] <Xintruder> gentoo exauhsted me in the past, i do not have the energy!
[19:02] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: My experience with webcams has been lukewarm. The wireless I have is on board intel, worked out of box
[19:02] <coldboot> Gentoo is too much.
[19:02] <vee_> Xintruder should you always label drives when partitioning?
[19:02] <coldboot> All that time you spend fiddling with your system is more than the time you save waiting for a program that's sub-optimally compiled.
[19:02] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I was unhappy with the software collection for controlling webcams, personally...but that is just my opinion
[19:03] <Xintruder> People told me to buy an apple laptop, and then install ubuntu, that will save me lots of hardware possible problems on my vaio!?
[19:03] <Lunar_Lamp> Where is $PATH defined globally?
[19:03] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Did I mention the LiveCD?
[19:03] <Xintruder> u did
[19:04] <Xintruder> People told me to buy an apple laptop, and then install ubuntu, that will save me lots of hardware possible problems on my vaio!? im not sure if thats though! they meant the black small apple that comes with leapord or something
[19:05] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Someone was installing Ubuntu that way yesterday seemed to work well for him, but I don't see why you'll have a problem with the sony
[19:05] <quittt> !language
[19:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:05] <Pici> !locale
[19:05] <aorthr33> Does anyone know how I can list which driver is being used by my wireless card?
[19:05] <quittt> very useful information...
[19:05] <brobostigon> xintruder: i have gutsy on my ibook g3, and it works practicly perfectly.
[19:05] <quittt> !locale
[19:05] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[19:06] <kbdman> hello!
[19:06] <darklord> hi
[19:06] <Xintruder> brobostigon no offence man I have no clue what u just said!
[19:06] <darklord> im using irc the first time...
[19:06] <darklord> nice nice
[19:06] <quittt> I'm having a problem, how do I change the spelling correction configuration of GTK programmes to another language?
[19:06] <mib_ck8hc77C> hi
[19:06] <darklord> which irc client du u use?
[19:06] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: He's telling you he installed Ubuntu on a mac without a problem
[19:06] <brobostigon> xintruder: ibook g3, is an apple laptop, and gutsy is a version of ubuntu
[19:06] <PurpZeY> darklord: I switch b/w pidgin and xchat
[19:06] <Xintruder> oh ok
[19:06] <mib_ck8hc77C> can someone help me with my ubuntu 7.04 installtion every few restarts my screen res changes please pm me
[19:07] <Xintruder> gotcha
[19:07] <darklord> ok
[19:07] <darklord> i am using xchat now
[19:07] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Did you successfully install?
[19:07] <MrJekkyl> Any good C programer?
[19:07] <cliebow> brobostigon, still there?
[19:07] <darklord> no ^^
[19:07] <brobostigon> yep
[19:07] <MrJekkyl> I need some help
[19:07] <cliebow> you find any sway to use nx?
[19:07] <cliebow> on th emac?
[19:07] <MrJekkyl> For an algorithm in C
[19:07] <mib_ck8hc77C> can someone help me with my ubuntu 7.04 installtion every few restarts my screen res changes please pm me
[19:08] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Did you successfully install?
[19:08] <mib_ck8hc77C> yes
[19:08] <Flannel> MrJekkyl: ##C is the place to ask, or #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  thanks
[19:08] <mib_ck8hc77C> perfectly
[19:08] <Pici> MrJekkyl: Thats a bit offtopic for this channel, please ask in ##c
[19:08] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: What graphics card do you have?
[19:08] <cliebow> brobostigon, or regular java?
[19:08] <mib_ck8hc77C> s3 savage intregrated on mobo
[19:08] <Pici> !nickspam > hooblay (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:08] <brobostigon> cliebow: java wont work on ppc/linux ,
[19:08] <Xintruder> !kbuntu
[19:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:08] <mib_ck8hc77C> purpzey ill pm u
[19:08] <grep100> does anyone happen to run an Nvidia 8800GT?
[19:09] <Pici> !kubuntu | Xintruder
[19:09] <ubotu> Xintruder: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[19:09] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Please do support here
[19:09] <hooblay> hello, is it possible to put a window on the top and bottom of the cube in compiz fusion?
[19:09] <brobostigon> cliebow: sun java doesnt work on ppc/linux
[19:09] <cliebow> i did use something like it..kaffe
[19:09] <darklord> PurpZeY: do u mean me?
[19:09] <mib_ck8hc77C> yes
[19:09] <mib_ck8hc77C> lol
[19:09] <Xintruder> PurpZeY, will beryl work on my laptop?? or is th graphic card to weak?
[19:09] <unagi> anyone know what dir metacity button icons sit
[19:09] <darklord> compiz fusion is much better than beryl
[19:09] <brobostigon> cliebow: the newest implementation of java for ppc/linux is gnash
[19:10] <cliebow> brob:i have a g3 and g4 running u..
[19:10] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Beryl is abandoned now...it's compiz-fusion and you'd have to check the card....
[19:10] <Xintruder> PurpZeY, how can I check the card?
[19:10] <cliebow> i built my ppc ltsp image on g4..
[19:10] <johan__> chinassszz
[19:10] <hooblay> Xintruder: how old is your laptop?
[19:11] <Xintruder> my laptop has geforce g0 7400 with 64mb dedicated memmory
[19:11] <Xintruder> hmmm maybe i bought i6 monthys ago or so
[19:11] <grep100> is anyone using a Dell 2707WFP monitor?
[19:11] <hooblay> Xintruder: that should work fine then, unless its really really low end
[19:11] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: What driver are you using for the card?
[19:11] <johan__> k
[19:12] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I agree, that should work
[19:12] <Xintruder> im not sure what you mean by low end :/ ?
[19:12] <Xintruder> ok
[19:12] <Leovenous> Hello, I have a P4 1.7 that hangs with the server install at 85% (installing the kernel) - Any ideas?
[19:12] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Again, compiz is on the liveCD. . . .
[19:12] <hooblay> Xintruder: nvm i didnt read properly, your lappy should work fine with compiz fusion
[19:12] <mib_ck8hc77C> PurpZeY please speak to me on my pm
[19:12] <mib_ck8hc77C> please
[19:13] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: No, we support here in the channel, there is no reason for a pm.
[19:13] <Xintruder> PurpZeY, compiz is on the live cd, the installation cd ?????????????????????
[19:13] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Plus I didn't even get a pm.
[19:13] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I believe so
[19:13] <Daviss> hola
[19:13] <WorkingOnWise> Is Acrobat Reader 8.1 from the mediaubuntu repos broke along with flash?
[19:13] <Leovenous> (BTW) I checked my CD and it passes.
[19:13] <eltux> How can I get the buttons on the side of my mouse to work like they do in windows? I miss that
[19:13] <KalEl> can i set a drive drive to be mounted, so that everyone has read access, but only a particular account (and admin) has write access?
[19:13] <Flannel> !mouse | eltux
[19:13] <ubotu> eltux: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[19:13] <brobostigon> WorkingOnWise: medibuntu
[19:13] <eltux> thanks flannel
[19:14] <bronzewalla> can anyone help me, when i transfer music to my 3g ipod nano in amarok, it empties my ipod
[19:14] <mib_ck8hc77C> PurpZey can you PM me ive started on on my end
[19:14] <bronzewalla> i've never used it with ubuntu before
[19:14] <Daviss> please, que arquitectura es la version ubuntu 7.10? 32 bits or 64 bits?
[19:14] <mib_ck8hc77C> u  try and start one
[19:14] <PurpZeY> !pm
[19:14] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[19:14] <Nrbelex> Hi, I just bought a Linksys WUSB54GSC adapter - the drivers supposedly may be available at http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html but I can't figure out which one is which, does anyone have any ideA?
[19:14] <Flannel> Daviss: both, depending on what you download.
[19:14] <hooblay> Xintruder: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:14] <Xintruder> im burning the cd to try now :D
[19:14] <Daviss> what puedo know it?
[19:14] <hooblay> Xintruder: run this in terminal "sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[19:14] <Xintruder> hooblay, where do i do that?
[19:14] <Daviss> what can I know it?
[19:15] <Xintruder> ok
[19:15] <Horgrathi> Hey all, I been looking all over the forum how to make my microphone work with TeamSpeak but for some reason it is recongnizing the mic but not capturing anything I say? Can anyone help me please?
[19:15] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Yeah, you'll need to install ccsm, as suggested by hooblay
[19:15] <Flannel> Daviss: Which iso file did you download?
[19:15] <mib_ck8hc77C> it is a s3 savage gfx and cahnges screen res every few reboots any ideas?
[19:15] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: What driver are you using?
[19:15] <Daviss> actualization of version 7.04
[19:15] <mib_ck8hc77C> just ubuntu's one
[19:15] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Is this a new install
[19:15] <unagi> where are the default themes held
[19:15] <PurpZeY> ?
[19:15] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, remove the rez you don'T want from xorg.conf
[19:15] <Flannel> Daviss: Whats the full file name?
[19:15] <mib_ck8hc77C> yes recent
[19:15] <hooblay> so do you know if compiz fusion will do desks on the top and bottom of a cube?
[19:15] <Xintruder> what does sudo mean ?
[19:15] <Flannel> !sudo | Xintruder
[19:15] <ubotu> Xintruder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[19:15] <mib_ck8hc77C> it has bn doing it since install
[19:15] <Pelo> Xintruder, super user do
[19:16] <Xintruder> ok, so its instead of su !
[19:16] <MGalaxy> Are GIMP and GimpShop versions match? I mean : GimpShop 2.1 = GIMP 2.1 ? OR GimpShop 2.1 = GIMP 2.4 ?
[19:16] <Xintruder> ok ok o
[19:16] <Daviss> there is any channel ubuntu in Spanish?
[19:16] <Flannel> !es | Daviss
[19:16] <ubotu> Daviss: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:16] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: It could be the res issue Pelo is suggesting, or you might need to use the 'savage' driver
[19:16] <Pelo> MGalaxy, not a clue you woudl have to ask the gimpshop ppl
[19:16] <Daviss> ok, thanks
[19:16] <mib_ck8hc77C> okay
[19:16] <mib_ck8hc77C> what is pelo suggesting?
[19:16] <Horgrathi> Hey all, I been looking all over the forum how to make my microphone work with TeamSpeak but for some reason it is recognizing the mic but not capturing anything I say? Can anyone help me please?
[19:16] <mib_ck8hc77C> ill change to the savage driver
[19:17] <MGalaxy> Pelo: what is "ppl" ?
[19:17] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: To remove the trouble some res from your xorg.
[19:17] <stroyan> unagi: /usr/share/themes/*
[19:17] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, , remove the resolution you don't want from the xorg.conf file
[19:17] <unagi> !themes
[19:17] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:17] <hooblay> ppl is people
[19:17] <Pelo> MGalaxy, ppl = people
[19:17] <brobostigon> Horgrathi: no idea, sorry.
[19:17] <mib_ck8hc77C> where is the xorg file located?
[19:17] <unagi> what does ubuntu default to
[19:17] <unagi> theme wise
[19:17] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Try using the savage driver first
[19:17] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, use this command , gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:17] <Horgrathi> brobostigon: thx anyways. its just really weird since i put capture on to max on volume control
[19:18] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, it will make a backup incase you mess it up
[19:18] <ramanspectra> hello people...I have 2 harddrives and i made a mistake in installation and now my 2nd hdd is unreadable
[19:18] <fiXXXerMet> I am attempting to install asterisk from source and it is asking for termcap.  Where can I find that?  I was not able to locate it via apt.
[19:18] <mib_ck8hc77C> no im using the savage driver where is xorg located?
[19:18] <stroyan> unagi: Human
[19:18] <unagi> ty
[19:18] <Pelo> ramanspectra, you might be screwed, what was on the second hdd ?
[19:18] <Daviss> exit
[19:18] <Nrbelex> are the rt2x00 wireless drivers built into the most recent kernel?
[19:18] <amorphous_> can anyone help me? I'm upgrading to gutsy on a dell optiplex-320. the graphics were 640x480, i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now can't start x. card is ATI Radeon Xpress200 , but X is claiming "Fatal server error" "no screens found" "...error 104"
[19:18] <mib_ck8hc77C> ?
[19:18] <hooblay> PurpZeY: do you know if it's possible to put a desk on the top or bottom of the desktop cube in compiz fusion?
[19:18] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:18] <unagi> sigh that still didnt help....man this is annoying lol
[19:18] <mib_ck8hc77C> ta
[19:18] <ramanspectra> some physics calculations...important!
[19:19] <PurpZeY> hooblay: I believe it is not.
[19:19] <grep100> its at /etc/X11 so /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:19] <mib_ck8hc77C> so will i just leave the res i want
[19:19] <mib_ck8hc77C> and delete the rest?
[19:19] <WorkingOnWise> brobostigon: took me a while to get what u meant...i got the right repos, and it is installed (Acroreader 8.1) according to Synaptic, but I click the shortcut and get nothing. the mozilla plugin is also installed, but firefox cant find acrobat reader either....
[19:19] <Arelis> Guys, can I install Windows inside a virtual machine safely (without losing my license), and do i need to put virusscanners on that?
[19:19] <hooblay> PurpZeY: ok thanks
[19:19] <Pelo> amorphous_, reconfigure x again and use the vesa driver, then try for the restricted driver from the gui
[19:19] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: yes and yes
[19:19] <ramanspectra> but it was sda and windows and linux was on sdb
[19:19] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: Do games work on that?
[19:19] <KalEl> how can i find my user id?
[19:19] <ramanspectra> grub is crazy
[19:20] <amorphous_> thanks Pelo - that just the kick I needed.
[19:20] <Pelo> Arelis, a virtual machine is a different machine then your phisical computer,  when you try to activate it will not want to
[19:20] <unagi> there is an icon that i dont like and i cant find where it is
[19:20] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: none that need 3d. the video subsysten is 2d only.
[19:20] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: Can i use Adobe Flash on it, though?
[19:20] <Pelo> unagi, icons sets are in /usr/share/icons/iconthemename
[19:20] <mib_ck8hc77C> will i just leave the res i want?
[19:20] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C,  that would be the idea
[19:21] <florian> good evening!
[19:21] <unagi> where would a delete icon sit
[19:21] <Pelo> unagi, which icon is this ?
[19:21] <mib_ck8hc77C> ive got xorg.conf, xorg.conf.1 all the way to .17
[19:21] <mib_ck8hc77C> ?
[19:21] <brobostigon> florian: good evening
[19:21] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: u should be able to, I have. But the gnash plugin works pretty good in firefox in Linux, and much less demanding than runnung Windows in a vm.
[19:21] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, xorg.conf
[19:22] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: The .1, .3 are backups, you want xorg.conf
[19:22] <mib_ck8hc77C> kk will i just leave the res i want
[19:22] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: No, i mean the Flash animator program.
[19:22] <unagi> well im using an osx icon set but there is an icon of a shredder that looks humanish that im trying to find
[19:22] <mib_ck8hc77C> ?
[19:22] <mib_ck8hc77C> pelo?
[19:22] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: im not farmilure with that. is it 2d or 3d ?
[19:22] <Pelo> unagi, how about you give me the name of the app it is for
[19:22] <mib_ck8hc77C> will i just keep the one i want?
[19:22] <PurpZeY> mib_ck8hc77C: Yes
[19:22] <mib_ck8hc77C> k
[19:22] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, YES , for the second time
[19:22] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: 2d. It uses the same flash player to show animations.
[19:22] <unagi> it is in the theme manager
[19:23] <Pelo> unagi, do you actualy see this icon when you use the comp for other stuff ?
[19:23] <mib_ck8hc77C> pelo in this lineModes		"1024x768@75"	"1024x768@70"	"832x624@75"	"1024x768@60"
[19:23] <mib_ck8hc77C> just remove them
[19:23] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: 2d. It uses the same flash player to show animations.
[19:23] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C, ...
[19:23] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: then it should work fine. Have u tried installing in in Ubuntu with Wine?
[19:23] <mib_ck8hc77C> or   modeline  "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
[19:24] <Pelo> mib_ck8hc77C,  the first one
[19:24] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: Yes, but the latest version of Flash doesn't run under wine.
[19:24] <rodolfo> brobostigon: hey
[19:24] <Arelis> WorkingOnWise: And it just works better under Windows
[19:24] <Pelo> gotta go folks, later
[19:24] <unagi> i dont remember
[19:24] <Horgrathi> Hey all, I been looking all over the forum how to make my microphone work with TeamSpeak but for some reason it is recongnizing the mic but not capturing anything I say? Can anyone help me please?
[19:24] <PurpZeY> Arelis: There is a problem with this most recent version of flash. It is being worked on.
[19:24] <brobostigon> rodolfo: hi
[19:24] <rodolfo> brobostigon: how are you doing?
[19:24] <florian> excuse me, is there a topic set for conversation on this channel? I am not very firm whith this IRC stuff so i don't want to talk offtopic...
[19:24] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: Have you set it up in wine?
[19:24] <Arelis> PurpZeY: No, i'm talking about the flash animator program. The one you create animations with.
[19:25] <PurpZeY> florian: Ubuntu support is the topic.
[19:25] <Horgrathi> PurpZeY: no, i am using the Linux client
[19:25] <brobostigon> rodolfo: fine
[19:25] <mib_ck8hc77C> it says could not save xorg no permossions?
[19:25] <PurpZeY> Arelis: Oh, my mistake
[19:25] <WorkingOnWise> Arelis: ok. I always treat Windows on a vm as a way way last resort, so I'll always recommend native-ish solutions too...but if u gotta use Windows, in a vm is the best place to do it, IMHO
[19:25] <mib_ck8hc77C> ?
[19:25] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: I'm sorry, I was being spacy, I meant ALSA
[19:25] <florian> PurpZeY, Thank you
[19:25] <cheeby> hi, rather new to ubunutu.  not used to evolution, seems a bit shaky.  Am I wrong?
[19:25] <Horgrathi> PurpZeY: yes, I am using ALSA
[19:25]  * cheeby had been using kontact on gentoo.
[19:25] <rodolfo> brobostigon: great! have you already took a look @ hardy's visual style?
[19:26] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: But you made sure the mic is turned on and all that?
[19:26] <brobostigon> rodolfo: no,why
[19:26] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: In Alsamixer?
[19:26] <Horgrathi> PurpZeY: yes, its all on
[19:26] <rodolfo> brobostigon: so close to chocolate theme...
[19:26] <grep100> mib_ck8hc77C: you need root privledges to edit and save the xorg.conf
[19:26] <Horgrathi> PurpZeY: only problem is it wont let me change the volume for mic capture
[19:26] <bullgard4> cheeby: Evolution is not shaky.
[19:27] <unagi> hang on ill send a screenshot
[19:27] <brobostigon> rodolfo:ok
[19:27] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: That sounds like it'd be an issue
[19:27] <Horgrathi> PurpZeY: you have any idea why?
[19:27] <cvasilak> hi there, i am running ubuntu gutsy kernel 2.6.22.14-generic i installed the latest svn version of madwifi, the driver installs successfully ath0 interface brings up, i set the essid to my network but when i dhclient it fails anybody having the same issue?
[19:28] <PurpZeY> Horgrathi: I don't, but I am going to trigger ubotu for you, and I suspect you will find the answer if you just dig a little
[19:28] <rodolfo> brobostigon: anyway i was wondering...is there a good dock/screenlet manager available for ubuntu?
[19:28] <PurpZeY> !alsa | Horgrathi
[19:28] <ubotu> Horgrathi: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:28] <brobostigon> rodolfo: no idea,
[19:28] <florian> anybody who has compiz running at Gutsy and missing title bars on windows when activated?
[19:28] <Horgrathi> thx PurpZeY
[19:28] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: I use kiba-dock, might be more trouble than it's worth
[19:29] <cvasilak> hi there, i am running ubuntu gutsy kernel 2.6.22.14-generic i installed the latest svn version of madwifi, the driver installs successfully ath0 interface brings up, i set the essid to my network but when i dhclient it fails anybody having the same issue?
[19:29] <astabeno> Kiba doc is cool at first but it gets anoying
[19:29] <cosmic> hi @ all
[19:29] <rodolfo> PurpZeY: so you mean you've experienced problems with this one?
[19:29] <cheeby> bullgard4, ok, good.
[19:30] <cheeby> just seems to be having problems from this one location.
[19:30] <Horgrathi> hey cosmic
[19:30] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: No, it's just getting it tweaked just the way you want it, it is slow from time to time....It's really great at first and I still find it useful, but I get along without it fine on my other machine
[19:30] <cheeby> at home, evolution runs just fine.
[19:30] <cheeby> DNS stuff...
[19:30] <apocalypti> I just lost internet access IN UBUNTU. IM FAIRLY CERTAIN ITS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM AS ALL THE OTHER BOXES ON MY NETWORK AND THE COPY OF WINDOWS I HAE INSTALLED can all get online. any help at all would be appreciated. i cant even access my router...
[19:30] <Pici> !caps | apocalypti
[19:30] <ubotu> apocalypti: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:31] <cosmic> hi Horgrathi , how are you ?
[19:31] <rodolfo> PurpZeY: is it unstable?
[19:31] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg
[19:31] <unagi> the delete icon
[19:31] <bullgard4> cheeby: I do not have DNS troubles using Evolution.
[19:31] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: It is still in development, I wouldn't call it unstable....Make sure you use the Amaranth repo to install
[19:31] <Horgrathi> cosmic: pretty good, just reading some manuals to figure out a problem i am having with a mic
[19:31] <Horgrathi> yourself?
[19:31] <Amaranth> rodolfo: No no, just use gutsy
[19:32] <Horgrathi> cosmic: well, i got to head out and reboot
[19:32] <cosmic> thats good to read , i am fine too , thx ... what for a problem ? what is a mic ? sorry my english is bad
[19:32] <rodolfo> PurpZeY: and wat should i look for? kiba-dock?
[19:32] <PurpZeY> Amaranth: He's looking for kiba
[19:32] <Horgrathi> cosmic: ohh, its just it wont let me capture the mic, so i am doing a clean install of the ALSA
[19:32] <cheatr> Hello. I've decided to create Devbuntu. A custimized version of Ubuntu Gutsy aimed at developers. In order to do this, I need to put together a decent list of programming apps. If you have any suggestions, please post in the thread on the forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656325). Also, if anyone is creative, devbuntu also will need some artwork. If you could either make some artwork or hunt down some on gnome
[19:32] <cheatr> -look that looks good, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot
[19:32] <Amaranth> PurpZeY: Then that's not in my repo
[19:32] <Amaranth> PurpZeY: And kiba is crap, he should use awn :)
[19:32] <cheeby> bullgard4, good to hear.  for whatever reason, Evolution stuggles from this location, unable to write to imap folders, or connect to smtp servers and eventually crashes.  Glad you like it - it looks pretty slick.
[19:32] <PurpZeY> Amaranth: Interesting, I thought that's where I got it
[19:33] <apocalypti> i just lost all internet access in ubuntu. i think its a software issue, as i can get online on all my other boxes and from winxp, which i have installed on that same box. any help would be appreciated.
[19:33] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: Amaranth is, uhm, the man, if he says awn is better, use awn
[19:33] <apocalypti> also sorry about the caps before
[19:33] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: run the command ifconfig and pastebin it please
[19:33] <Nebular> I just installed apache2. when I go to localhost on the machine, I get apache2-default and users folders. what I would like to do is get a directory listing of my home folder, but I can't find out how to configure that
[19:34] <Amaranth> PurpZeY: Unless kiba has gotten spectacularly better recently it crashes way too much for the few extra effects you get over awn
[19:34] <PirateHead> cheatr: A customized version of Ubuntu for developers? Why? Developers are usually savvy enough to set up their own dev environments, and snobbish enough to want only what they need and not a bunch of stuff they'll never use.
[19:34] <bullgard4> cheeby: What you are reporting seems to me due to a more general networking problem on your second site.
[19:34] <rodolfo> Amaranth: what about this awn?
[19:34] <PurpZeY> Amaranth: They have solved the crashing problems, but, I have never used awn to compare. . .
[19:34] <Amaranth> PirateHead: Not snobbish, I still have ubuntu-desktop installed even though I don't use half the stuff :)
[19:35] <unagi> i just wish the themese were moer customizable
[19:35] <amorphous_> anyone know the name of the gnome resolution manager app?
[19:35] <cheatr> PirateHead: The idea is to have it in a livecd environment. That way, you just burn 1 disk and have access to all the programs you need from any computer.
[19:35] <stroyan> unagi: That looks like /usr/share/icons/Tango/24x24/actions/stock_delete.png
[19:35] <jakel1> i guess i am going to have to reinstall my whole linux partition....
[19:35] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: ifconfig didnt fix it, and it said command not found when i typed in pastebin it
[19:35] <amorphous_> anyone know the name of the gnome resolution preferences manager app?
[19:35] <jakel1> that sux......  there needs to be an easier way to install windows after installing linux
[19:35] <Amaranth> rodolfo: http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=DistributionGuides
[19:35] <jakel1> without writing the bootloader over again....
[19:35] <brobostigon> amorphous_: screens and displays
[19:35] <amorphous_> or a way to get to it with no menus :(
[19:35] <cheatr> Nebular: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf. You need to custimize the Document Root path.
[19:35] <PirateHead> cheatr: Why would developers want to run their dev environment from a liveCD? The whole point is to save edits to the project, right?
[19:35] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: No no, open a terminal and run the command ifconfig then run the command iwconfig then copy all that into a pastebin so I can read it
[19:35] <Amaranth> PurpZeY: When I was using awn to test it out it went 2 months without crashing
[19:36] <PurpZeY> !paste | apocalypti
[19:36] <ubotu> apocalypti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:36] <amorphous_> brobostigon, neither of those are apps?
[19:36] <jakel1> i have AWN
[19:36] <mib_ck8hc77C> how do i get root priv to save xorg.conf sudo ... ?
[19:36] <jakel1> i love it
[19:36] <jakel1> i want to marry it
[19:36] <MissDaisy> hello
[19:36] <luisc> sudo su
[19:36] <mib_ck8hc77C> kk
[19:36] <PurpZeY> Amaranth: I am not "awn v. kiba" but since the recent upgrade kiba has not crashed on me that was about 3 weeks ago. . . .
[19:36] <brobostigon> amorphous_: under gutsy , menu system/admin/ascreens and displays
[19:37] <PirateHead> Amaranth: Hey. Nice to see you around. Too bad the latest Ubuntu doesn't recognize my graphics card, or I would ask you about a few questions I was having with Compiz.
[19:37] <Amaranth> PirateHead: And I'd run :)
[19:37] <Amaranth> PirateHead: What graphics card?
[19:37] <mib_ck8hc77C> sudo su /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[19:37] <cheatr> PirateHead: A liveCD doesn't prevent you from accessing personal files. They will be able to use the cd to connect to their personal computer using any protocol they like. They could also plug in a flash drive or browse the local hard drive to find the files they need. This project wasn't my idea. I just volunteered to create it
[19:37] <mib_ck8hc77C> ???
[19:37] <amorphous_> brobostigon, - i have no menu - the resolution is wrong... its a problem with a gutsy upgrade... :(
[19:37] <MissDaisy> i dont like ubuntu
[19:37] <luisc> sudo gedit  /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[19:37] <cheeby> bullgard4, yes, I realize that.  but kontact doesn't have the same issue from this location.
[19:37] <Amaranth> amorphous_: sudo rm ~/.config/menus/*
[19:37] <mib_ck8hc77C> kk
[19:38] <Amaranth> amorphous_: then your menus will come back
[19:38] <Pici> !gksudo | luisc mib_ck8hc77C
[19:38] <ubotu> luisc mib_ck8hc77C: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:38] <unagi> do they default to scalable
[19:38] <luisc> with sudo su you enter as root
[19:38] <PirateHead> cheatr: I'm just trying to envision a developer saying "Man, the thing I really need is to suck up extra computer resources running my entire development environment from a LiveCD instead of from a real install.
[19:38] <stroyan> amorphous_: try running /usr/bin/gnome-display-properties
[19:38] <amorphous_> Amaranth, i think theyre there - they're just off scree - so i can't reach them..
[19:38] <Amaranth> amorphous_: Are you talking about the Applications menu?
[19:38] <PirateHead> Amaranth: It's an ATI Mobility card, recognized on Feisty and Edgy but not now.
[19:38] <bullgard4> cheeby: I am not famiiar with 'kontact'.
[19:39] <mib_ck8hc77C> when i do 	sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf the file word processor comes up blank
[19:39] <Amaranth> PirateHead: lspci | grep -i vga
[19:39] <luisc> ubotu you can use sudo
[19:39] <mib_ck8hc77C> but when i open the file in the browser it doesnt
[19:39] <Nebular> cheatr: there isn't a document Root path
[19:39] <Amaranth> mib_ck8hc77C: It's case sensitive, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:39] <Pici> luisc: No, its not reccomended, please read the link.
[19:39] <amorphous_> Amaranth, yes... but I think stroyan has hit the nail on the head
[19:39] <Flannel> mib_ck8hc77C: Don't use sudo with graphical programs, use gksu: `gksu "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"`
[19:40] <Amaranth> amorphous_: ah, in that case...
[19:40] <Amaranth> !fixres | amorphous_
[19:40] <ubotu> amorphous_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:40] <cheatr> PireHead: It isn't ideal. I admit that. But I know that I'm often using computers other that my own. Most of them are running windows. Since they are not my computer, I am not able to install any programs on it. So even though I can access my files(if they are on a flash drive), I can't compile/execute them. So a liveCD with all of these apps would be very useful to have.
[19:40] <Pici> !ot | cheatr PirateHead
[19:40] <ubotu> cheatr PirateHead: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:40] <PirateHead> Amaranth: lspci sees it. Ubuntu just isn't using it. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[19:40] <lorix> !lista
[19:40] <PirateHead> Pici: Read up and you'll see I'm not offtopic.
[19:41] <lorix> !list
[19:41] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: ok, this will take me a minute, as i have to move the info from my computer to this one and then upload
[19:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:41] <Amaranth> PirateHead: Oh, ouch. Yeah, that card. Even if it was setup I think we have it blacklisted in compiz because it's so unstable.
[19:41] <WorkingOnWise> cheatr: have u looked into puppy linux as a vm using qemu, on a flash drive?
[19:41] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: Er, ok.
[19:42] <Nebular> basically what I just like to know is where apache is looking to give me the apache2-default and users folder so I can just drop a symlink in there to the home folder. this is just being used internally so I don't really care about doing things properly
[19:42] <PirateHead> Amaranth: Boo. It ran Compiz Fusion just fine under Edgy. :-(
[19:42] <cheatr> Nebular: /var/www
[19:42] <Amaranth> PirateHead: The ATI driver went kind of downhill in gutsy with the switch to randr12 and such
[19:42] <Nebular> cheatr: thank you
[19:42] <Amaranth> PirateHead: It sounds like the info from ATI is helping even with the older cards though, it seems to be getting better now
[19:43] <luisc> ok ubotu I already read the link, but some aplications as gedit, always work with sudo.
[19:44] <PurpZeY> luisc: You are talking to a bot
[19:44] <acid-core> hey ppl ... where i can set the fileextensions
[19:44] <PirateHead> Amaranth: I'm just glad that ATI is finally playing along a little. Hopefully they'll be pleased with the results and release more info!
[19:44] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of an application server, for example glassfish - SUN application server?
[19:44] <cheatr> WorkingOnWise: I've tried out puppy and DSL, both have some of the apps I need, but neither is complete. By making a custom ubuntu, I have the same interface as I have on my personal computer. This means I can install the same apps without having to convert the package.
[19:44] <Muskie> aaaaalrighty then. Debian may be a little too... Detailed for a first timer. :P
[19:44] <cheatr> Nebular: You're welcome
[19:45] <jakel1> man linux is so great.... yet so frustrating sometimes to do what should be an easy task
[19:45] <florian> @all: have a pleasant evening!
[19:45] <juan> is there a way to renice a process as i start it?
[19:46] <PirateHead> jakel1: Ask your question if you have one. Saying "Linux can't do this easy thing" doesn't help you or us.
[19:46] <cvasilak> hi there, i am running ubuntu gutsy kernel 2.6.22.14-generic i installed the latest svn version of madwifi, the driver installs successfully ath0 interface brings up, i set the essid to my network but when i dhclient it fails anybody having the same issue?
[19:46] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg anyone know where i might find that delete icon
[19:46] <ottothecow> in a tty's respawn line...what does the 38400 mean?
[19:46] <Amaranth> cvasilak: Why are you using an svn version of madwifi?
[19:46] <v3ctor> juan: you can `nice` when you start it or `renice` if it already running
[19:47] <cvasilak> Amaranth, this is what ubuntu macbook pro wiki suggests
[19:47] <bullgard4> juan: You may try the commands renice, top, 'nice', I guess.
[19:47] <Amaranth> cvasilak: I think those directions are for Ubuntu 7.04, not 7.10
[19:47] <khaotik> anyone good at getting broadcom wireless chips working???
[19:48] <juan> v3ctor: and how would i nice a command as i launch it? because as soon as i launch it my computer lags up so much i wouldnt be able to nice it
[19:48] <ottothecow> like when it says respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6...what does the 38400 mean
[19:48] <Latty> Hey all: I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - I bought it to replace my onboard sound, but upon installation the sound quality is terrible in comparison, is this a driver issue, because I heard that the support was good (unlike the X-Fi range)
[19:48] <ray_> I have a quick question about repairing an install of 7.10 ... is there a simple way to repair system files from a live disk?
[19:48] <Pici> unagi: somewhere in /usr/share/icons/
[19:48] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: here you go. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/
[19:48] <cvasilak> Amaranth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro states ubuntu gutsy
[19:48] <Amaranth> cvasilak: In that case I have no idea
[19:48] <v3ctor> juan: nice -n <value> <command>
[19:49] <PirateHead> ray_: You can reinstall packages, but as far as I know there is no easy "fix system files" command.
[19:49] <ray_> PirateHead> i think that there may be some issue with the kernel and some of the files that it uses ...
[19:49] <crazy6> what should I do after upgrading to an nvidia video card? just do an apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[19:50] <puneesh> got 7.04 .. the screen resolution at 1024x786 gies problem where he lower left corner acts wierd . also the sound is not working
[19:50] <puneesh> avyone?
[19:50] <jenda> I am about to install an encrypted filesystem according to this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto ... Do I first install a regular system, or a temporary system, or can I do all those commands from a live session?
[19:50] <luisc> crazy simply run the restricted manager
[19:50] <PirateHead> ray_: You could try upgrading to the Hardy kernel or compiling a choice kernel from source.
[19:50] <ray_> PirateHead>i'm getting kernel panics when i start any of the kernels on my system ...
[19:50] <unagi> do i have to replace every one of the delete icons to replace it?
[19:50] <unagi> or is there just one that ubuntu defaults to using
[19:51] <jakel1> man my butt hurts... i have been sitting in front of this computer way to long now
[19:51] <puneesh> got 7.04 .. the screen resolution at 1024x786 gives problem where the lower left corner acts wierd . also the sound is not working..anyone help!!
[19:51] <PirateHead> ray_: If you ask in ##linux somebody might have an idea based on the panic message you get.
[19:51] <apocalypti> PurpZeY : here it is. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/
[19:51] <jakel1> puneesh..... first off it's 1024x768
[19:52] <stroyan> unagi: That looks like That looks like /usr/share/icons/Tango/24x24/actions/stock_delete.png  .  Are you using Tango theme?
[19:52] <Latty> Hey all: I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - I bought it to replace my onboard sound, but upon installation the sound quality is terrible in comparison, is this a driver issue, because I heard that the support was good (unlike the X-Fi range)
[19:52] <ray_> PirateHead> thanks ... i'll give that a try ...
[19:52] <taim> I need help getting keyboard interaction on Live CD for 7.10.  No matter what I do with BIOS settings, Only the Install CD will not recognise USB keyboard.
[19:52] <unagi> no....thats why its annoying that its there....how do i get this theme to use a different icon for that
[19:52] <PirateHead> ray_: Hope you figure something out.
[19:52] <jakel1> puneesh, what is the little weird thing that that the lower left corner is doing
[19:52] <taim> I tried live, alternative, server, jeos, etc...no luck getting USB keyboard to work.
[19:52] <Ayabara> can I use the same $HOME for ubuntu and fedora?
[19:52] <devilsadvocate> Ayabara, usually, yes
[19:52] <coldboot> Ayabara: Yeah you can, but some things are going to be a little messed up.
[19:53] <puneesh> jakell: :} .. the center part of the screen is displayed in the lower left corner
[19:53] <jakel1> oh...
[19:53] <coldboot> Ayabara: You may notice that your toolbar goes retarded, because they've both got different properties.
[19:53] <ray_> PirateHead> yea ... its very strange ... my home server was running just fine, and then it just hung one day ... and produced some errors about the swap disk ....
[19:53] <jakel1> that is a little bit of a problem
[19:53] <jakel1> what graphics card are u using?
[19:53] <luisc> Ayabara you may have troubles wiyh configuration files
[19:53] <jakel1> or try turning off your monitor and restarting it... see if it refreshes
[19:54] <puneesh> onboard.. intel 945G
[19:54] <Ayabara> coldboot, luisc, so it does not sound like something you recommend :-)
[19:54] <ray_> PirateHead> i blew away the swap partition, recreated it as ext3 and ran a scan on it, no issues ... so i replaced the swap, rebooted .. didn't work
[19:54] <devilsadvocate> puneesh, reduce your screen resolution
[19:54] <Empath> When the computer starts, the grub menu comes up. When I select Vista(Loader) it says "NTLDR is missing" and when I select my Ubuntu Partition, it says "No such partition". Could someone help me with this please?
[19:54] <devilsadvocate> puneesh you have and lcd screen right?
[19:54] <bronzewalla> can anyone help me with getting the 3rd generation ipod nano to work in ubuntu? without iTunes
[19:55] <coldboot> Ayabara: No, but first, try copying your home directory and see if it's all that messed up in the other OS.
[19:55] <mattwalston> how can I make it so a non-root user can scan?
[19:55] <puneesh> jakel1: had same problem with Debian installed
[19:55] <coldboot> Ayabara: You can always just symlink the important directories.
[19:55] <ivonne> hola
[19:55] <ivonne> como estan
[19:55] <Pici> !es | ivonne
[19:55] <ubotu> ivonne: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:55] <jakel1> puneesh: what kind of graphics card?
[19:56] <puneesh> devilsadvocate:  not lcd.. yes less resolution works.. but how to get it working on !024
[19:56] <XxValetexX> !ge
[19:56] <ubotu> ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge
[19:56] <XxValetexX> :B
[19:56] <Ayabara> coldboot, thanks for the advice.
[19:56] <puneesh> jakel1: no graphic card!
[19:56] <IcemanV9> did anyone have a solution for totem-gstreamer buffering problem?? it seems gstreamer never fix a buffering problem since hoary.
[19:56] <th__> omg!
[19:56] <unagi> oh wait i could do a symbolic link to make ubuntu use a different icon right?
[19:56] <th__> is this an official channel?
[19:57] <JC_Denton_> Can I boot a machine without a OS from the network and install Ubuntu that way?
[19:57] <khaur> is there something wrong with flashplugin-nonfree? when i try to install it i get "Download done." - "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" - "The Flash plugin is NOT installed.". and yes, i've tried multiple times
[19:57] <jakel1> puneesh: you need a graphics card
[19:57] <Latty> th__: You sound surprised?
[19:57] <jakel1> how can you see anything
[19:57] <IcemanV9> th__: yes it is an official channel
[19:57] <Empath> anyone?
[19:57] <Flannel> !flash | khaur
[19:57] <ubotu> khaur: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:57] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:57] <taim> khaur:  Yep.  Same problem here.  Answer is "wait."
[19:57] <Latty> Hey all: I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - I bought it to replace my onboard sound, but upon installation the sound quality is terrible in comparison, is this a driver issue, because I heard that the support was good (unlike the X-Fi range) - Anyone got any suggestions on why it would sound bad?
[19:57] <jakel1> all computers have graphics cards
[19:58] <jakel1> if you can plug in a monitor to it
[19:58] <khaur> taim: ok, thanks
[19:58] <Empath> When the computer starts, the grub menu comes up. When I select Vista(Loader) it says "NTLDR is missing" and when I select my Ubuntu Partition, it says "No such partition". Could someone help me with this please?
[19:58] <Latty> jakel1: Some have onboard graphics.
[19:58] <khaotik> lmms
[19:58] <Fallex> alguem ai me pode ajudar a configurar o meu som pessoal?
[19:58] <Flannel> !pt | Fallex
[19:58] <ubotu> Fallex: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:58] <Kavok2> I  have a problem, when I go to System->Preferences->Screensaver the computer locks up
[19:59] <Kavok2> Its stuck on the 'Braid' screen saver
[19:59] <Fallex> #ubuntu-pt
[19:59] <puneesh> jakel1: i have the onboard graphic card.. intel 945G.. i think graphic card is not a compulsion.. in fact i am pretty sure of that..fedora worked fine..
[19:59] <Kavok2> This means I can't change my screensaver, and im assuming when my computer turns on screensaver it will also crash
[19:59] <stroyan> unagi: The 'customize theme' dialog want to change all the icons at once to a particular existing theme.  If you want to mix icons from different themes you might be able to do that by copying icon files from an existing theme to a new name and editing or overwriting them.
[19:59] <the_empty> hey all- I am experiencing random FS corruption on ext3 fses on 7.10. I'd be inclined to think HDD except it's happening on two separate HDDs and started happening around the same time. Any idea what's up?
[19:59] <rodolfo> Falles: vai no Ubuntu Servers no teu menu a esquerda e nele digite /join #ubuntu-br
[19:59] <Celarnor> Has anyone had any problems with fetching GPL'd themes in Gutsy?
[19:59] <th__> how much does this channel make logs in a day?
[20:00] <unagi> but thats hard to do when the icon being used isnt part of the theme i am using stroyan
[20:00] <phyz> Kavok2, maybe you can find the binary and remove execute perms
[20:00] <jakel1> hmmmm....
[20:00] <v3ctor> the_empty: define random corruption
[20:00] <Celarnor> Under Emerald, I mean.
[20:00] <Latty> My #ubuntu log is 222mb
[20:00] <Kavok2> phyz: over my head
[20:00] <jakel1> and your monitor supports 1024x768?
[20:00] <jakel1> puneesh,
[20:00] <bronzewalla> anyone gotten a new nano to work on ubuntu?
[20:01] <Pici> !logs | th__
[20:01] <ubotu> th__: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[20:01] <stroyan> unagi: Your screenshot seems to show that you are using a custom theme.  The icons you use don't have to match the rest of the theme.
[20:01] <the_empty> v3ctor: EXT3-fs error (device sdb2): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #655680: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=323534945, rec_len=62270, name_len=231 .... no rhyme or reason, it will just decide to remount RO
[20:01] <puneesh> devilsadvocate: i also did not have my sound working.. even on logging in it produces no sound.. even tried .ogg files not working
[20:01] <unagi> i am using a custom theme but that icon on the delete button isnt part of the theme
[20:01] <v3ctor> the_empty: have you run fsck on that FS yet?
[20:01] <th__> Pici, thx
[20:01] <graelin> how do I pass parameters to the kernel at boot? need to up mu vmalloc size
[20:01] <apocalypti>  i just lost all internet access in ubuntu. i think its a software issue, as i can get online on all my other boxes and from winxp, which i have installed on that same box. any help would be appreciated.
[20:01] <the_empty> v3ctor, doing so now for like the 5th time this week
[20:01] <Kavok2> I seem to be suffering from this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/desktop-bugs/2007-March/088660.html
[20:02] <rodolfo> PurpZeY, Amaranth: thanks for the tip! =) now, what do you recommend for widgets/sidebar?
[20:02] <mauro> sera
[20:02] <Kavok2> is there anyway to change the screensaver to something besides braid
[20:02] <Kavok2> without the screensaver app.. ?
[20:02] <apocalypti> also my ifconfig printout is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/
[20:02] <puneesh> jakel1: yes it works on that resolution on fedora.. on windowsalso..
[20:02] <the_empty> v3ctor, inode problems mostly (i_size and i_blocks)
[20:02] <v3ctor> the_empty: are you sure there is not a symlink from one drive to the other giving the apearance of exiexting on both drives?
[20:02] <Amaranth> rodolfo: Nothing, everything current available is either not worth using or too unstable
[20:02] <Latty> Hey all: I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE - I bought it to replace my onboard sound, but upon installation the sound quality is terrible in comparison, is this a driver issue, because I heard that the support was good (unlike the X-Fi range) - Anyone got any suggestions on why it would sound bad?
[20:02] <th__> this is too big
[20:03] <th__> should be moderated
[20:03] <the_empty> v3ctor, dead positive...
[20:03] <rodolfo> Amaranth: Oh...
[20:03] <the_empty> there are a few symlinks but it is definitely things on both drives
[20:04] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I need the directory /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4?
[20:04] <Muskie> is there a definitive answer on the compatibility with the various revisions of the F5D7010 Belkin wifi card? that's pretty much the only thing that's worrying me about installing ubuntu.
[20:04] <th__> why is name of the channel #ubuntu-unregged?
[20:04] <isaac_> What's with all these bloody scrollkeeper XML errors I keep getting when installing software?
[20:05] <Latty> Muskie: My suggestion is to avoid the hassle of wireless cards (in any OS or device) and get a wireless access point.
[20:05] <the_empty> v3ctor, do you suppose sshfs (FUSE ssh module) could be causing this?
[20:05] <phyz> Kavok2, there's probably a more graceful way, but you can open a terminal and do sudo chmod a-x /usr/lib/xscreensaver/braid and see if that lets you in the app
[20:05] <th__> the_empty, wtf
[20:06] <Muskie> latty: Whah?
[20:06] <Kavok2> phyz: I just ran a sudo rm `locate braid` instead :p
[20:06] <free1> this firefox can be quite annoying sometimes...
[20:06] <the_empty> th__, that's my question in a nutshell ;)
[20:06] <phyz> Kavok2, there's always that
[20:06] <Latty> Muskie: http://www.overclock.net/networking-security/254922-wireless-access-points-why-should-i.html#post2936430
[20:06] <free1> with gutsy is there any way to allow cutting and pasting of text onto an email field
[20:06] <free1> ?
[20:06] <phyz> Kavok2, braid sucks anyway
[20:06] <erUSUL> !ohmy
[20:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:06] <free1> without the annoying security message not allowing you to?
[20:06] <apocalypti>  i just lost all internet access in ubuntu. i think its a software issue, as i can get online on all my other boxes and from winxp, which i have installed on that same box. any help would be appreciated. here is the ifconfig printout, if anyone decides to help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/ (note that i was being helped by PurpZeY, but he seems to be gone)
[20:07] <puneesh> on 7.04 there is no sound coming on my system.. even the login sound is not there
[20:07] <Kavok2> how can I tell what 'version' of ubuntu im running?
[20:07] <erUSUL> !version
[20:07] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[20:07] <th0r> free1 with most linux apps, if you highlight in one and then click the middle button in another the highlighted text will be copied.
[20:07] <charles87> anyone knowsa why I can't compile a kernel anymore?
[20:08] <Muskie> now that's just confusing.
[20:08] <th0r> free1 but it has to be that...highlight, move the cursor, and click...any side trips will spoil it <smile>
[20:08] <IcemanV9> free1: depends on which app ... you can use ctrl+c (copy) and ctrl+p (paste) ... use middle button in mouse or use both button (acts like middle button) to copy & paste
[20:08] <apocalypti> i just lost all internet access in ubuntu. i think its a software issue, as i can get online on all my other boxes and from winxp, which i have installed on that same box. any help would be appreciated. here is the ifconfig printout, if anyone decides to help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/ (note that i was being helped by PurpZeY, but he seems to be gone)
[20:08] <Muskie> I'm already using an access point, I believe.
[20:09] <Latty> Muskie: Basically, your PC sees a wired network, and the WAP does all of the wireless stuff. As wired connections are generally 100% good, everything is a lot easier using one.
[20:09] <the_empty> charles87, could you be more specific? What happens, what changed since last success, etc?
[20:09] <IcemanV9> !repeat | apocalypti
[20:09] <ubotu> apocalypti: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:09] <silent_> what's a good command-line utility to monitor filesystem usage
[20:09] <silent_> (bandwidth)
[20:09] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: I apologize, I dozed off...I am really sorry, I am back
[20:09] <Latty> Muskie: What, to connect to?
[20:09] <charles87> the_empty: I made a distro update recently, and since I can't compile any kernel, with the same config as I always used
[20:09] <ryanmf> Hey all. I'm a super noob, so forgive me if this is dumb. I've got a mobo with onboard nvidia graphics that haven't been playing nice so far, but I've found the drivers that are supposed to clear up the problems, they're sitting on my desktop in *.run format. When I launch it it opens a terminal window and starts running, but almost immediately stops and says it needs to run as root. I created a launcher with root privileges as descr
[20:09] <free1> thOr: I'm trying to cut and paste from the notepad to my excite email - firefox is the browser
[20:10] <Muskie> you realise that means I lose the one major part of my laptop's coolness there: portability :P
[20:10] <the_empty> charles87, error?
[20:10] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: my sincerest apologies I am getting over a cold and I closed my eyes and lost 20 minutes....
[20:10] <Latty> Muskie: Ah, a laptop. Fair enough.
[20:10] <Muskie> I forgot to say it was a PCMCIA card for a laptop, I guess. sorry.
[20:10] <free1> when I use ctrl-c & p, I get a dialog box saying that for security reasons scripts cannot be copied
[20:10] <unagi> is there a way to force a theme to let me change the window color
[20:10] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: no problem, i understand. heres the ifconfig printout, if you didnt get it before. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/
[20:10] <charles87> the_empty: well it compiles fine, but i get the error msg "Unable to mount root filesystem on unknown partition"
[20:10] <Muskie> my main rig is just cat5ed to the Roter.
[20:10] <th0r> free1 the method I described doesn't involve cut or paste...just highlight, move the cursor to the firefox window, and paste. It takes a few tries to get the hang of it...but I use it a lot to move text to yahoo mail.
[20:11] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: Are you able to ping your router?
[20:11] <th0r> free1if the security thing is part of excite there probably is no way around it, but if you can type the text into excite, you should be able to click it in....the clipboard isn't involved...the text is moved I think via the keyboard  buffer
[20:11] <kazol__> For some reason I get an "I/O Error" when trying to copy a directory from a Samba server.
[20:11] <xkarimx> hye! may i know how to enable WU-FTPD on my Ubuntu? thanxs
[20:12] <charles87> the_empty: I know the current Ubuntu generic kernel uses sda as drive, but my custom kernels use hda... i tries both
[20:12] <free1> th0R:  Thank you! clicking the right and left mouse buttons at the same time worked.
[20:12] <Latty> Muskie: Sorry, I don't have a laptop, so I can't really help.
[20:12] <th0r> free1told ya <smle>
[20:12] <Muskie> no prob, latty
[20:12] <the_empty> charles87, tried passing it a root= ?
[20:12] <unagi> can someone explain symbolic links to me?
[20:12] <Muskie> ...My kingdome for netinst
[20:12] <charles87> root=/dev/hda3
[20:12] <saskia> http://myex.ath.cx/?id=d9e286b3 geht mal auf die seite
[20:12] <charles87> the_empty: also tried root=/dev/sda3
[20:13] <th0r> unagi just a little more sophisticated than a shortcut in windows.
[20:13] <free1> IcemanV9:  Thank you as well! I have a lappy, no middle button. so your point about the left& right helped
[20:13] <kazol__> !de | saskia
[20:13] <the_empty> charles87, hrm, no idea... I would double check HDD support and FS support in your config
[20:13] <ubotu> saskia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:13] <th0r> free1 you need a wireless three button mouse <smile>
[20:13] <the_empty> charles87, maybe with make oldconfig
[20:13] <unagi> i mean i want to change an icon in my theme to another one.......how would i do that
[20:13] <Muskie> Right now the plan to instlal is wait another hour and a half to download the iso, and since I don't have a burner, transfer the iso into a USB key (at USB1.0 Speed! o.o), move that to the main rig, and burn the iso.
[20:13] <charles87> the_empty: i just copied the old config and type "make xconfig" as usually
[20:14] <Pici> unagi: just replace the icon in your theme with one of the same name.
[20:14] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: no
[20:14] <th0r> unagi not sure....but try right click on the desktop icon, choose properties, and then click on the icon in the window
[20:14] <kazol__> For some reason I get "I/O Errors" when trying to copy a directory from a Samba server.
[20:14] <unagi> the icon is on a button
[20:14] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: i cant ping my router
[20:14] <the_empty> charles87, same kernel version as before?
[20:14] <isaac_> I'm using x2vnc to connect to my other computer. I'm pretty sure it's extended my X session to the right and put the screen there, as I don't have 2 monitors. I'd be nice to be able to see this stuff to the right - are there shortcut keys I can use to flip my visible X area to the left hand half / right hand half?
[20:14] <Pici> unagi: you need to find what the name of that icon is yourself.
[20:14] <charles87> i tried the same, and an earlier (2.6.23.12)
[20:15] <Rezagrats> Could someone point me to a video on how-to properly partition your Hard Drive ?
[20:15] <charles87> before i had 2.6.22.8
[20:15] <puneesh> my sound card is being detected but there is no sound on my system.. please Help!! :(
[20:15] <charles87> the_empty: well, thx anyways
[20:15] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: What is the router IP? should be 192.168.1.1, right? What error are you getting when you ping it?
[20:15] <Muskie> ooh, that reminds me, does ubuntu have partitioning software in the installer?
[20:15] <free1> th0r: :)
[20:16] <free1> yes
[20:16] <unagi> this would be much easier if search wasnt worthless
[20:16] <Pici> Muskie: Yes, gparted is on the livecd
[20:16] <charles87> Muskie: try "gparted &"
[20:16] <Muskie> or am I breaking out my perfectly legally attained copy of Partitionmagic again?
[20:16] <EtteSB> anyone know a way to change .ogg to .mp3 on mass?
[20:16] <the_empty> charles87, sorry man, out of ideas there
[20:16] <Latty> EtteSB: I'm presuming you mean re-encoding rather than renaming?
[20:16] <IcemanV9> Muskie: gparted
[20:16] <charles87> the_empty: np :) thx again
[20:16] <jaggy> hmm for the one or the other reason i don't got sound anymore :s is that normal ?
[20:17] <EtteSB> latty: yes
[20:17] <Latty> EtteSB: Lame is the way to go then, I guess
[20:17] <EtteSB> latty: im guessing renaming it to .mp3 wouldn't work (correct me if it does)
[20:17] <silent_> it's fairly easy to make lame bash scripts
[20:17] <Hestv4> sigh... my computer doesn't recognize my new graphics card, it doesn't even show up with lspci
[20:18] <pike_> Hestv4: getting enough power?
[20:18] <silent_> Hestv4: look around in your bios, see if you need to enable the card, or set your computer to try to use it as the primary device. Could be a dead device
[20:18] <EtteSB> silent_: latty: i couldn't work out how to use lame tbh, i got confused when i read lame --help
[20:18] <silent_> Hestv4: try the card in another system to rule out a hardware issue
[20:18] <Latty> EtteSB: If only, no you have to reencode the music. Note as they are both lossy formats, you will loose quality. It is best to encode straight from a lossless (FLAC or WAV) source or rip again from CD, etc...
[20:19] <Hestv4> silent_: "PCIe" is selected as primary, it uses the onchip anyway, can't disable that one.
[20:19] <Latty> EtteSB: lame whatever.ogg whatever.mp3
[20:19] <silent_> EtteSB: the man files are usually better than --help
[20:19] <Hestv4> silent_: I don't have access to another system with PCIe :(
[20:19] <silent_> Latty: it's more than that though, if he wants to customize bitrate etc.
[20:19] <dn4ia> I have a new cpu that I want to install on mymother board will ubuntu detect it or will I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[20:19] <Latty> silent_: True.
[20:19] <silent_> Hestv4: send the video board my way, I'll see if it works ;P
[20:19] <PurpZeY> dn4ia: I believe you should just be able to install it, depending on if it's 64bit change or something like that.
[20:19] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: its actually 192.168.0.1, and it doesnt give me an error, its just sort of been sitting there for about 10 minutes
[20:20] <dn4ia> thanks
[20:20] <Latty> EtteSB: If you want a GUI, you could try this: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=149230
[20:20] <silent_> apocalypti: is your default gateway the device itself? (192.168.0.1)
[20:20] <Hestv4> silent_: I think it's a shitty motherboard.. jetway amd 690g
[20:20] <EtteSB> latty, silent_: i just want one to the other. but im trying to do about 211 tracks so typing out lame would take ages
[20:20] <EtteSB> latty: ooh thanks
[20:20] <apocalypti> silent_: i think so
[20:20] <silent_> Hestv4: are you sure the board supports pcie 16x
[20:21] <silent_> apocalypti: I believe ifconfig should tell you
[20:21] <silent_> EtteSB: that's why you need a bash script
[20:21] <Hestv4> silent_: absoluteley yes
[20:21] <unagi> i cant find that icon...........why is this so difficult
[20:21] <apocalypti> silent_: i already ran it. heres the printout: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50633/
[20:21] <silent_> Hestv4: does the card have any external power supply or is it just the pcie slot?
[20:22] <PurpZeY> silent_: It is.
[20:22] <Hestv4> silent_: just the pcie. fanless.
[20:22] <puneesh> how to use pastebin?
[20:22] <silent_> apocalypti: you're trying to acces your router settings, right?
[20:22] <silent_> Hestv4: odd
[20:22] <Hestv4> silent_: geforce 8400gs
[20:22] <PurpZeY> silent_: He's got no connectivity
[20:22] <Roly> i have a 8400GS
[20:22] <Roly> its shite
[20:22] <isaac_> My X display is twice as wide as the viewport. I was wondering if there is some way for me to switch the viewport between the left and right hand sides?
[20:22] <PurpZeY> silent_: Although I don't see anything glaringly wrong w/ his ifconfig
[20:23] <kazol__> I am having problems with the scientific graphing win32 app "Origin" crashing and working slowly in wine-what are ways to improve the operation (besides using VMWare)?
[20:23] <Pici> !language | |
[20:23] <ubotu> |: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:23] <khaur> does the -generic kernel include proper support for "normal" (consumer-available) multicore processors?
[20:23] <jenda> I am about to install an encrypted filesystem according to this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto ... Do I first install a regular system, or a temporary system, or can I do all those commands from a live session?
[20:23] <Hestv4> Roly: not as much as the x1250 I hope... I get lock-ups every now and then...
[20:23] <unagi> does ubuntu default to 32x32 icons or scalable or what
[20:23] <dfcarney> isaac_: what do you mean "viewport"?
[20:23] <xtas> hmm, which is better xmms or xmms2
[20:23] <the_empty> EtteSB, 'find ./ -iname '*.ogg -exec lame (((your bitrate options etc here))) {} {}.ogg \' ' should work if you don't mind running `rename 's/\.ogg\.mp3/.mp3/ *.ogg.mp3` afterwards.... I'd try it in a small test dir first though
[20:23] <Roly> what game?
[20:23] <silent_> PurpZeY: no, the output is normal
[20:23] <dfcarney> isaac_: do you mean that the display is twice as wide as your screen width?
[20:23] <isaac_> dfcarney, the visible section on the screen
[20:23] <silent_> Hestv4: Is the motherboard old?
[20:23] <Roly> or in ubuntu general
[20:24] <silent_> apocalypti: you have no connectivity on the router at all?
[20:24] <verb3k> kazol__,  try asking in the Wine IRC channel
[20:24] <EtteSB> the_empty: thanks ill give it a go
[20:24] <the_empty> EtteSB, please be sure to test first
[20:24] <Hestv4> silent_: from june
[20:24] <dfcarney>  isaac_: how comfortable are you working on the command line?  all of the settings are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:24] <the_empty> EtteSB, don't want to be responsible for hosing your collection ;)
[20:24] <dfcarney> isaac_: at least, they should be :)
[20:24] <Hestv4> silent_: time for bios upgrade I think
[20:24] <EtteSB> the_empty: will do. anyway its all from CD's :3
[20:24] <isaac_> dfcarney, I think X calls them screens. I have my main X bit viewable at the moment, but if I move my mouse off the right hand edge, I'm controlling a VNC server which I've used x2vnc to put there. I can see the mouse move on the other computer.
[20:25] <isaac_> s/server/client
[20:25] <apocalypti> PurpZeY, silent_: i dont see anything horribly wrong with anything either, should I try putting a livecd in to see if its just the way my network card is now working with ubuntu for some reason?
[20:25] <PurpZeY> silent_: My most recent update on it was the one you caught, that he couldn't even ping it
[20:25] <silent_> Hestv4: That would be my next move... no guarantee it will work, however. Does the card at least display your POST?
[20:25] <Muskie> hrmm. Repartitioning - is 10GB good enough for ubuntu?
[20:25] <lingard> harddisk you still here?
[20:25] <unagi> all i want to do is change this icon =*( i didnt think it was that difficult of a task
[20:25] <uruca> HELP, gnu ddrescue destroys data on destination disk when writing an iso? if there's space for all data, too?
[20:25] <isaac_> Muskie, yeah
[20:25] <dfcarney> isaac_: ah, gotcha.  i've never played around with x2vnc before, so i'm not sure what the issue could be.
[20:25] <apocalypti> silent_: no, i dont
[20:25] <Hestv4> silent_: nope, nothing. It just gets warm... everything shown on the onboard crap.
[20:25] <silent_> PurpZeY: I'm guessing the ip isn't 0.1 then, one sec
[20:25] <Muskie> cool, will do that then
[20:25] <xkarimx> hye! may i know how to enable WU-FTPD on my Ubuntu? thanxs
[20:26] <dfcarney> isaac_: if you're willing to tinker with xorg.conf then you'll probably fix your problem, however.  just back it up first.
[20:26] <silent_> Hestv4: sounds like incompatibility, bios error, or a dead card, flash, then try to test the card on another system (or bring it to a repair shop or somesuch)
[20:26] <dfcarney> isaac_: are you using an ATI card?  nVidia?
[20:26] <kr4z1e> have question... i am trying to get the cisco vpn client to work on ubuntu gutsy anybody have any ideas?
[20:26] <isaac_> dfcarney, alright, I might. There's nothing in-built to switch between screens 0 and 1?
[20:26] <silent_> apocalypti: what model is the router?
[20:26] <apocalypti> silent_: its .0.1, i cant acces .1.1 from anywhere.
[20:26] <Hestv4> silent_: just received it brand new today...
[20:27] <silent_> Hestv4: cards can die in transport. It is rare, but it can happen
[20:27] <Tonren> Can anyone suggest a good, simple wiki to use for personal notetaking on a laptop?  Something that's a little extensible, with some pretty markup options, but not too much overkill in features?
[20:27] <dfcarney> isaac_: oh, i see what you're saying.  you have a single monitor but you want to toggle it between screen 0 and 1, right?
[20:27] <silent_> either to the store, or to your house
[20:27] <apocalypti> silent_: its a d-link EBR-2310
[20:27] <isaac_> dfcarney: Yeah, at least I think so :)
[20:27] <dfcarney> isaac_: if so, that's a good question.  i wouldn't be surprised if there's a way to do it...  has google tured up anything?
[20:27] <silent_> apocalypti: default ip for d-link is 192.168.0.1... are you on wired?.. is that router wireless?
[20:28] <isaac_> dfcarney, well I'm kind of working out exactly what I want as I go. I'll search now
[20:28] <apocalypti> silent_: its wired
[20:28] <uruca> HELP, gnu ddrescue destroys data on destination disk when writing an iso image? either if there's enough space for all data, too?
[20:28] <unagi> what dictates what ubuntu defaults to for an icon
[20:29] <PurpZeY> silent_: Looks like .0.1 is default
[20:29] <dfcarney> isaac_: i'll poke around too.  i'm curious
[20:29] <anton__> how to mount a .bin-file in ubuntu?
[20:29] <jaggy> brb
[20:29] <silent_> apocalypti: when on the router, type "route" in terminal
[20:29] <isaac_> :) much appreciated
[20:29] <silent_> that will tell you the device's ip
[20:29] <silent_> assuming you are granted dhcp
[20:30] <apocalypti> silent_: im not sure how to do that. when i type .0.1 into firefox, i get a webpage-looking thing, and nothing that looks like a terminal
[20:30] <the_empty> uruca, dd is a block-level utility, it will make a bit for bit clone of the input to the output.
[20:31] <the_empty> uruca, so yes it will definitely nuke whatever is there
[20:31] <unagi> how can i force a theme to let me change the window color
[20:31] <silent_> Hestv4: You can also try a vbios flash, but I can't vouche for the validity of your warranty afterward. If you plan on venturing that way, you'll want to find a utility called "nvflash" and a floppy drive
[20:31] <silent_> apocalypti: are you on linux?
[20:31] <stroyan> unagi: To be clear, what window and the color of what parts of the window?
[20:31] <Hestv4> silent_: nvflash sounds nvidia... the nvidia card isn't even visible to the system.
[20:31] <silent_> apocalypti: are you using gnome or kde?
[20:31] <unagi> all windows
[20:32] <unagi> the background color of all windows
[20:32] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: Just use terminal and type route
[20:32] <silent_> Hestv4: not as far as you can tell, but  nvflash may be able to detect and flash the vbios. it's the part most likely to be corrupt, but as I said, your warranty may be at risk
[20:32] <apocalypti> silent_: no, all the boxes in my network except for the problematic one run WinXP (if you have a problem with that, talk to my parents. theyre the ones who wont switch...)
[20:32] <stroyan> unagi: The background color of windows is the business of each application.  There is no single control for all applications colors.
[20:32] <unagi> there is.....in themes
[20:32] <silent_> apocalypti: Windows XP is the best microsoft OS IMO
[20:33] <silent_> apocalypti: are you running gnome or kde? What distro are you running?
[20:33] <uruca> the_empty, this is the command i did: sudo ddrescue -v /dev/hdb1 /media/disk/buruca/Recovered.iso /media/disk/buruca/ddrescue.log
[20:33] <apocalypti> silent_: i agree, but that doesnt make it good.
[20:33] <Hestv4> silent_: then I just have to get something to boot from.. no flyppy drives here, so it's usb or cd.
[20:33] <jakel1> wow.... all microsoft oses suck
[20:33] <sbc_> hey guys, I need a little help.  I want to just copy some files off my uncles harddrive (with Win 98 installed) onto a usb thumb drive.  The usb drivers don't work under Win98 so I want to run a live Ubuntu session of a CD since Ubuntu has usb drivers OOTB.  The problem is that the computer is so slow I don't want to run a GUI with the live CD, just straight TTY and some cp -R .  Any idea how to run a standard 7.10 live CD with no GUI? Any b
[20:33] <sbc_> oot paramaters that prevent gnome from starting?
[20:34] <sbc_> TIA
[20:34] <silent_> Hestv4: you'll have to do some googling to make the usb drive bootable into dos... look for a utility from hp, I've used it before
[20:34] <jakel1> i personally prefer mac... and then i got into linux... and linux is nice, but it can cause many headaches
[20:34] <silent_> Hestv4: but first flash the mobo bios
[20:34] <apocalypti> silent_: im running ubuntu with gnome.
[20:34] <Hestv4> silent_: yep, I will...
[20:34] <boris> hi
[20:34] <apocalypti> silent_: and its 7.10
[20:34] <silent_> apocalypti: Applications > accessories > terminal
[20:34] <jakel1> i tried KDE and hated it.... I like gnome better
[20:34] <sbc_> No, I want to run the session off of the CD, not the USB drive
[20:34] <sbc_> just with no GUI
[20:34] <silent_> kde4 looks enticing
[20:35] <silent_> but I'm a gnomefag
[20:35] <jakel1> i like gnome
[20:35] <unagi> anyone know what about control themes dictates the ability or inability to change a window background color?
[20:35] <apocalypti> silent_: i know how to access the terminal, but i cant do anyting networky with it.
[20:35] <boris> my father's comp stoped working, after i manually added some resolutions to X. /var/log/Xorg.0.log says that there were no screens with valid config found
[20:35] <jakel1> kde4 looks the same with special effects
[20:35] <boris> (he's using fglrx)
[20:35] <silent_> apocalypti: sudo -s
[20:35] <jakel1> i am actually using 10.3 right now OpenSUSE and that uses KDE
[20:35] <stroyan> unagi: So you want the "Customize" button, the "Colors" tab, and the effect of clicking on "windows: Background".  That will affect many windows.
[20:35] <jakel1> but it's 3.5
[20:35] <apocalypti> silent_: ok...
[20:35] <jakel1> i dnt trust kde4 yet
[20:35] <silent_> apocalypti: careful what you do with root privileges, however...
[20:36] <Muskie> I'll assume it all goes well with dualbooting through XP?
[20:36] <unagi> yes....but not every control theme lets you change it........what dictates if u can or cant
[20:36] <uruca> the_empty, either if this is the command i did? sudo ddrescue -v /dev/hdb1 /media/disk/buruca/Recovered.iso /media/disk/buruca/ddrescue.log - and if I stop it now, what's happen?
[20:36] <jakel1> try sudo rm -rf /
[20:36] <jakel1> no just kidding
[20:36] <JC_Denton_> If I do a network install can I have a  router inbetween the two machines?
[20:36] <jakel1> dnt do that
[20:36] <jakel1> :-P
[20:36] <boris> i tried setting it to VESA. now it starts loading, but it stops ar runing local scripts (rc.local)
[20:36] <jakel1> dnt listen to me
[20:36] <sbc_> jakel1: cut the douchebaggery
[20:36] <boris> it repeatedly seems to loas it
[20:36] <jakel1> i was kidding
[20:36] <sbc_> lots of people have actually lost data becuase of that
[20:36] <sbc_> it's not clever/funny
[20:37] <PurpZeY> jakel1: not funny to someone who doesn't know any better.
[20:37] <jakel1> lol.... i know... i was one of them
[20:37] <silent_> jakel1: people get banned for that
[20:37] <silent_> jakel1: never again
[20:37] <boris> some1 help
[20:37] <verb3k> jakel1, you may get banned , careful :)
[20:37] <isaac_> dfcarney: Looks like I can add screen 1 to a tty through a file called "inittab", but I can't find it on ubuntu, the instructions are for debian
[20:37] <JC_Denton_> So I won't need to turn the machine into a DHCP server (and need a cross cable) if a router inbetween the two machines will suffice?
[20:37] <PurpZeY> boris: describe your problem
[20:37] <jakel1> lol... dnt worry i wont say it again
[20:37] <jakel1> but i can think it right?
[20:37] <sbc_> why doesn't this channel just autoban or at least censor anyone who types that command?
[20:37] <unagi> does anyone here make themes?
[20:37] <jakel1> cuz it could be useful
[20:37] <silent_> sbc_: usually people alert the admins immediately... must be slow today
[20:37] <dfcarney> isaac_: ubuntu is based off of debian, so it should be fairly compatible
[20:38] <silent_> I'm surprised he hasn't been banned
[20:38] <PurpZeY> silent_: I considered i
[20:38] <PurpZeY> t
[20:38] <sbc_> hmm
[20:38] <Hestv4> silent_: this seems to be something to try: http://www.nenie.org/misc/flashbootcd.html
[20:38] <_-XPERT-_> boris: State your problem
[20:38] <daquino[laptop]> i was trying to setup support for portugues language...  now trying to revert those changes it appears that firefox is still giving me the wrong spelling corrections... its not using english!!!  I just checked and it only gives me portugues based dictionaires i cant even pick english!!
[20:38] <ArrPirate> I have a problem
[20:38] <jakel1> i've actually used the command for legit purposes
[20:38] <isaac_> dfcarney, I know, but the instructions say /etc/inittab, which doesn't exist. A quick "locate inittab" shows nothing
[20:38] <ritalin> hai
[20:38] <silent_> Hestv4: indeed, but you need to be able to write backup bioses, which is why a FAT usb drive is best
[20:38] <silent_> or better yet, a floppy drive
[20:38] <ritalin> is it normal to have 1.2% fragmentation on a fresh install? filesystem is ext3.
[20:38] <ArrPirate> I plugged my new LCD monitor up to my computer running Ubuntu and nothing displays
[20:39] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: And that is?
[20:39] <silent_> Hestv4: the HP bootable usb utility will help
[20:39] <Jowi> ArrPirate, ...by computer you mean PC or Laptop?
[20:39] <ArrPirate> PC
[20:39] <PurpZeY> ArrPirate: You'll need to reconfigure your x system for the new monitor most likely.
[20:39] <isaac_> ritalin, sounds about right
[20:39] <ritalin> k
[20:39] <ritalin> ty
[20:39] <unagi> where do you tell ubuntu what icon you want to use as default for something that isnt a link
[20:39] <sbc_> Is there a copy2ram (or similar boot parameter) to load an Ubuntu live session into the ram?
[20:39] <ArrPirate> and how would I do that if I can't see anything?
[20:39] <Jowi> ArrPirate, does the video card have more than one connector?
[20:39] <dutch> is there official way to turn off gutsy's compiz from the command line?
[20:39] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: can you login to a console?
[20:40] <silent_> ritalin is only good crushed and done in lines
[20:40] <ArrPirate> No to both
[20:40] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Do you see anything at all?
[20:40] <unagi> how do i change the icon used for the power applet
[20:40] <ArrPirate> No, just a blue screen with my monitor telling me 'not supported'
[20:40] <silent_> unagi: right click then go to properties
[20:40] <Jowi> ArrPirate, do you at least get the grub menu at boot?
[20:40] <ArrPirate> no
[20:40] <silent_> unagi: there should be an icon selector somewhere
[20:41] <unagi> there isnt
[20:41] <napsy_> hello. gnome-power-manager uses statistics to calculate batery times. Is that correct?
[20:41] <unagi> just preferences with nothing about the icon
[20:41] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Not even the bios of your computer?
[20:41] <PurpZeY> Jowi: I don't get grub at boot b/c this is my only partition
[20:41] <silent_> unagi: no idea then
[20:41] <Jowi> ArrPirate, if you power off and on again (not soft power off, pull the plug if needed) can you enter BIOS?
[20:41] <ArrPirate> I see the BIOS loadup, then my monitor tries to display the linux boot up but it fails and goes blue, but if I hit alt+ctrl+backspace I see a bunch of big text briefly
[20:41] <unagi> how do you change the icon for anything in ubuntu
[20:41] <unagi> what tells ubuntu to use
[20:42] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: change to another terminal by pressing Alt + F2 or F3
[20:42] <Jowi> ArrPirate, ah, ok. Enter BIOS. set the panel size of the framebuffer in there to the *native* resolution of your LCD display.
[20:42] <unagi> er what tells ubuntu which icon to use
[20:42] <apocalypti> silent_: heres the readout of the route cmd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50638/
[20:42] <silent_> unagi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228892 Look at the fourth post in particular
[20:42] <jakel1> i might throw ubuntu on this machine if my graphics card works on it
[20:42] <dfcarney> isaac_: you still there?
[20:42] <ArrPirate> I don't know if I can do that, Jowi. My computer is pretty old
[20:42] <jakel1> last i checked it didn't work very well
[20:42] <subzero2000> I've got an Adaptec SCSI RAID 2230S controller that I need to get the status of the drives connected to it. Any ideas on how to do that?
[20:42] <isaac_> dfcarney ah ha
[20:43] <silent_> apocalypti: that looks perfect
[20:43] <Jowi> ArrPirate, then, turn off the framebuffer in BIOS so you should at least get the grub boot menu.
[20:43] <_-XPERT-_> subzero2000: Cat /proc/scsi
[20:43] <Tilllinux> just out of curiousity: is it possible to login to ubuntu via handwriting-recognition?
[20:43] <silent_> apocalypti: can you screenshot what appears when you type 192.168.0.1 in firefox?
[20:43] <apocalypti> silent_: sure, just a sec...
[20:43] <silent_> apocalypti: upload the result to imageshack.us
[20:43] <dfcarney> isaac_: i believe that the way to do it is to setup a second X server in a different terminal.  i.e. drop to TTY1 with "CTRL+ALT+F1", log in, and type something like "startx -- :1"
[20:43] <jakel1> oooo...... sounds like he is configuring a router
[20:44] <dfcarney> isaac_: to switch back to your main window use "CTRL+ALT+F7"
[20:44] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Have you tried to change to another terminal? Alt+F1?
[20:44] <PurpZeY> silent_: Hopefully you'll get that all resolved soon, but I am glad it isn't too simple, makes me feel like less of an idiot for not seeing it at first glance
[20:44] <isaac_> dfcarney, I think screen 1 is already started though, but I'll give it a shot, hold up
[20:44] <silent_> PurpZeY: I have no idea what's wrong
[20:44] <PurpZeY> silent_: Makes two of us
[20:44] <dfcarney> isaac_: that's all i can come up with for now...there are probably some X settings so that you can use independent config files
[20:44] <kazol> I get I/O errors all the time when accessing/saving to a Samba server-this never happened before.
[20:44] <unagi> getting closer silen_ but i dont see anything for icon in that
[20:45] <dfcarney> isaac_: i gotta run though.  good luck!
[20:45] <silent_> unagi: in gconf?
[20:45] <unagi> yea
[20:45] <unagi> for power-manager
[20:45] <isaac_> dfcarney, no luck, heh
[20:45] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: no need for help anymore?
[20:45] <apocalypti> silent_, PurpZeY: at least my problems are original... how do i send you the screenshot?
[20:46] <ArrPirate> no, I need help
[20:46] <silent_> apocalypti: go to www.imageshack.us and upload it
[20:46] <silent_> then give the link
[20:46] <ArrPirate> I was just checking bios... I can't set frramebuffer in there
[20:46] <PurpZeY> ArrPirate: I think _-XPERT-_ has a decent idea there....ctrl + alt + f1 for terminal
[20:46] <ArrPirate> I'll try
[20:46] <silent_> ctrl alt f7 to get back
[20:46] <krabador> hi people
[20:46] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Ok, But have you tried ALT+F1 or F2 or F3 enz.
[20:46] <silent_> ** important **
[20:46] <krabador>  i can't run compiz in ubuntu gutsy with ati radeon 9600 and 8.443.1 installed
[20:47] <krabador> someone with gutsy ati and 8.443.1 installed?
[20:47] <silent_> krabador: flgrx?
[20:47] <unagi> there is nothing for icon
[20:47] <krabador> silent : yes
[20:47] <arbulus> hey everybody.  can anyone tell me if there is an easy way to see how much RAM my machine has?  I just received an old machine from a friend, but the DIMMS don't have a label saying what size they are.  Is there an easy way (cli or gui) to show much much is installed?
[20:47] <silent_> krabador: what happens when you try to run it?
[20:47] <qolo> arbulus: free
[20:47] <ArrPirate> ok
[20:47] <bitterbug> wow, networking my virtualbox LAMP server is driving me completely bonkers. once upon a time i could set one up and go, but i'll be damned if i can get it on my subnet and working now
[20:47] <Jowi> arbulus, cat /proc/meminfo
[20:47] <boris> PurpZeY : oh, i managed to solve it somehow.
[20:48] <ArrPirate> I got a terminal and I logged in but the text is HUGE and I can't see what I'm doing
[20:48] <PurpZeY> boris: Glad i was of service
[20:48] <krabador> silent : "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[20:48] <boris> does X crash if there are many resolutions specified ?
[20:48] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: You need to reconfigure your Xserver
[20:48] <arbulus> jowi: thank you!
[20:48] <_-XPERT-_> There is also a setting in the grub menu for the framebuffer
[20:48] <ArrPirate> I'm not sure how to do that
[20:48] <silent_> krabador: do you have xgl installed?
[20:48] <Jowi> ArrPirate, press AutoAdjust on your LCD screen so at least you will see all the text even if it's big
[20:48] <PurpZeY> boris: It should allow you to set several as a choice, but if you screw your xorg....then possibly won't start
[20:49] <ArrPirate> I did that, it didn't do much of anything
[20:49] <jakel1> i have a firebox x550e and that serves my firewall then comes a Dell R900 as a DHCP server and a PowerEdge 6950
[20:49] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:49] <silent_> krabador: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[20:49] <apocalypti> silent_: ok, here : http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dlinkscreenshotfr8.png
[20:49] <PurpZeY> reconfigure x-server, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:49] <krabador> silent_ : ok
[20:49] <jakel1> they work pretty well... i dnt have any type of "router" though for say
[20:50] <isaac_> I'll ask again. I use x2vnc, which is a VNC (remote desktop) client. It outputs to X screen 1 (X starts on screen 0), and through Xinerama, this is placed to the right of my current X viewport. I need a way of switching between screen 0 and screen 1, or alternatively, to the left and right of the X output. I've read that I can make a tty view a specific X screen, but I don't know how to set this up
[20:50] <d90> I drying to install ati drivers from add/remove programs but I get following error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/atigetsysteminfo.sh', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[20:50] <jakel1> a dedicated firewall and a dedicated DHCP server
[20:50] <silent_> apocalypti: what's the problem then?
[20:50] <jakel1> then a dedicated file server and license server
[20:50] <PurpZeY> apocalypti: Dude, that's your router setup page?
[20:50] <d90> I`m trying to install ati drivers from add/remove programs but I get following error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/atigetsysteminfo.sh', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0 ANY IDEAS WHAT TO DO?
[20:51] <silent_> PurpZeY: all the new ones look like that...
[20:51] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[20:51] <kiki7> hello @ all
[20:51] <PurpZeY> silent_: Take a loot at upper right...Either that's a really good theme or that's a screen from his windows machine
[20:51] <kiki7> somebody is here?
[20:52] <Jowi> kiki7, 1287 of us
[20:52] <krabador> silent_: ok, done. now?
[20:52] <silent_> apocalypti: I needed a screenshot from your linux box
[20:52] <silent_> krabador: try restarting
[20:52] <kiki7> lol Jowi thats a lot... It appears like its an chat with a lot of sleeping guys
[20:52] <apocalypti> PurpZeY: its what i get when i type 192.198.0.1 into firefox. i can send the manual setup page screenshot too
[20:52] <silent_> krabador: then enable effects, assuming you have compiz-fusion installed
[20:52] <PurpZeY> silent_: Maybe it's a good theme....looks like XP to me.
[20:52] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: And any resluts?
[20:53] <ArrPirate> the framebuffer thing isn't helpful at all
[20:53] <ArrPirate> because my BIOS has no mention of it and I can't see the GRUB menu to do anything with that
[20:53] <Jowi> kiki7, silence is golden if you A. do not need support or B. do not give support :) the rest is for #ubuntu-offtopic hehe
[20:53] <silent_> PurpZeY: no, if it looks like xp it's a bad theme
[20:53] <apocalypti> silent_: thats the screenshot from the computer that im on now, the one that has network/internet access
[20:53] <krabador> silent_: i've ubuntu gutsy, compiz updated with synaptic
[20:53] <EtteSB> i just tried using lame to change a .ogg to a .mp3. when i play the .mp3 all i get is static. anyone know another way to change it or a way to fix it?
[20:53] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Did you read the url i send you?
[20:53] <ArrPirate> yes
[20:53] <silent_> krabador: and you installed xserver-xgl?
[20:53] <krabador> silent_ : yes
[20:53] <ArrPirate> I'm getting frustrated.
[20:54] <silent_> krabador: reboot
[20:54] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: This can solve some but how is the reconfigure running?
[20:54] <lunahood> hi, I am not able to mount a samba partition by normal user, but only with sudo ... if anyone has an idea ...
[20:54] <silent_> apocalypti: so the linux box has no internet?
[20:54] <apocalypti> PurpZeY, silent_: it is xp. like i said, the only computer running linux is the one with the problem
[20:54] <krabador> silent_: ok, for now thank you!
[20:54] <dcesiel_> hey guys say I wanted to start firefox and and once its loaded start xchat, how would I do that in one command?
[20:54] <silent_> krabador: hope it works out
[20:54]  * PurpZeY WAHAHAHAHAHAS
[20:54] <apocalypti> silent_: none at all
[20:55] <silent_> apocalypti: try this... "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[20:55] <ubuntu> alee
[20:55] <Bluesoul> Greetings
[20:55] <amorphous_> roblems for a while now & can't get my machine to startup in command line - i'm using lilo but need the kernel command to start up without X - can anyone help me?
[20:55] <Bluesoul> guys do any of you use gigabyte mobos?
[20:55] <PurpZeY> silent_: Only b/c I'm looking at that thinking "Hmm, what are fixing?"
[20:55] <Nostahl> Hi all. im wondering if anyone can help point me in the direction of opening up the files in my mp3 player (the actual program files)
[20:55] <PurpZeY> Bluesoul: My roommate used one.
[20:56] <Bluesoul> PurpZeY,
[20:56] <Bluesoul> I have a question for you
[20:56] <silent_> PurpZeY: I can't help but wonder if he knocked out the cat5 cable
[20:56] <Bluesoul> did he have any problems with ubuntu?
[20:56] <PurpZeY> silent_: Just wondering that now?
[20:56] <Bluesoul> specifically sound card, on board sound card problems
[20:56] <PurpZeY> Bluesoul: Actually he had a problem with RAM compabitility
[20:56] <EtteSB> i just tried using lame to change a .ogg to a .mp3. when i play the .mp3 all i get is static. anyone know another way to change it or a way to fix it?
[20:56] <Bluesoul> hmm
[20:57] <silent_> Bluesoul: just build alsa with module helper and select the module for your audio chip
[20:57] <Bluesoul> nonono
[20:57] <silent_> there's a very detailed ubuntu forum post on the subject
[20:57] <Bluesoul> I mean the little speaker icon is there  but no sound is coming
[20:57] <Bluesoul> this is goddam weird.
[20:57] <silent_> and I mean build alsa
[20:57] <kinection> i'm having trouble with my on board sound card, lspci says it's an Intel High Definition Audio Controller. I can play sounds, but I don't seem to be able to record sounds through mic or lineout, can anybodyhelp me?
[20:57] <PurpZeY> Bluesoul: He ended up switching out that motherboard. Not sound related, but still makes me think maybe their product isn't #1.
[20:57] <kiki7> aaaaah ok, i see thank you a lot Jowi :D i think i have to quit this room because i dont need any help right now i am glad to have installed my ati 9800 pro in debian :D
[20:58] <PurpZeY> !alsa | kinection
[20:58] <ubotu> kinection: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:58] <silent_> Bluesoul: open a terminal and type "aplay -l"
[20:58] <stefanonx> ciao a tutti
[20:58] <Bluesoul> hmm
[20:59] <Bluesoul> will do bbl
[20:59] <ArrPirate> well
[20:59] <PurpZeY> heh heh heh
[20:59] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I need the directory /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4?
[20:59] <Tilllinux> is there a tool to configure wacom tablets?
[20:59] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: And? is the reconfigure working?
[20:59] <silent_> EtteSB: look at the lame man file, play around with settings
[21:00] <PurpZeY> bullgard4: I know on my desktop I can run the older kernel if the new causes issues....safety.....
[21:00] <apocalypti> PurpZeY, silent_: all the cables are fine, that was the first thing i checked. and i ran the cmd, and it said reconfiguring network interfaces... [ok]
[21:00] <ArrPirate> I  got into a terminal and I logged in, typed in the reconfigure command, assumed it would need my sudo password, so I put that in even though it was off of my screen... and as far as I know it's doing whatever it was supposed to do, but I can't tell because it's off my screen
[21:00] <apocalypti>  PurpZeY, silent_: and nothing has changed
[21:01] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Please have a second look at the framebugger url i gave you
[21:01] <jeff__> Hey can someone bail me out? I did a fresh install of Gutsy and got all the custom visual effects working but then I did the updates and that broke something. I now can'
[21:01] <_-XPERT-_> this can solve the large font size in a terminal
[21:01] <PurpZeY> jeff__: updates?
[21:01] <silent_> apocalypti: do you have dynamic dhcp enabled on the router? try uplugging the router for 10 seconds then plug it back in to reset it then run /etc/init.d/networking restart again
[21:01] <_-XPERT-_> I wont solve you xserver problem but that is step 2
[21:01] <daquino[laptop]> anyone got any help for me here ?
[21:01] <_-XPERT-_> sorry it must say "It wont....
[21:02] <PurpZeY> !ask | daquino[laptop]
[21:02] <ubotu> daquino[laptop]: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:02] <apocalypti> silent_: dhcp is and has been enabled, but ill try. itll disconnect this box too, so brb
[21:02] <silent_> !ask | daquino[laptop]
[21:02] <jeff__> PurpZeY: Yes, sorry. The updates broke something. I noticed one of them was compiz after I started the process
[21:02] <ArrPirate> I did read it, and I can't find anything there that I can do  currently
[21:02] <PirateHead> !ask | daquino[laptop]
[21:02] <daquino[laptop]> PurpZeY:  i did ask it...
[21:02] <daquino[laptop]> silent_: ^
[21:02] <ArrPirate> there's nothing mentioned in my BIOS about framebuffer and I can't see the grub menu
[21:02] <daquino[laptop]> PirateHead: ^
[21:02] <_-XPERT-_> Why cant you edit the /boot/grub/menu... ?
[21:02] <daquino[laptop]> i was trying to setup support for portugues language...  now trying to revert those changes it appears that firefox is still giving me the wrong spelling corrections... its not using english!!!  I just checked and it only gives me portugues based dictionaires i cant even pick english!!
[21:02] <bullgard4> PurpZeY: I believe that you missed the point. My kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic. The _directory_ /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4 is no bootable kernel on my system.
[21:02] <el_pako__> ola
[21:02] <PurpZeY> jeff__: It's possible one of the newer updates messed your video cards settings....
[21:02] <Sier> ola?
[21:02] <el_pako__> ai alguien que able español?
[21:03] <PurpZeY> !es | el_pako__
[21:03] <ubotu> el_pako__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:03] <bullgard4> No, ningun.
[21:03] <silent_> daquino[laptop]: sounds like a firefox issue, not ubuntu
[21:03] <androide>  http://chimbarongo.myminicity.es/ <- new eyecandy for compiz-fusion!
[21:03] <PirateHead> !offtopic | androide
[21:03] <ubotu> androide: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:03] <daquino[laptop]> silent_: it was messing with the ubuntu management tools that caused changes in my system including firefox
[21:03] <jeff__> PurpZeY: Everything looks OK still. Anything in particular to check?
[21:04] <ArrPirate> what exactly am I supposed to do with that framebuffer URL if I can't do anything with it in my BIOS and I can't see the GRUB menu?!
[21:04] <PurpZeY> jeff__: Well, what, itsn't working?
[21:04] <PurpZeY> PirateHead: For the record, that was not even an ubuntu related link and for anyone in windows could have contained spyware for all I know
[21:05] <Muskie> arr: use an alternate display until you get the settings right?
[21:05] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: please read the html file it gives you the option to run your system whitout Framebuffer and whith a higer setting for example your new monitor
[21:05]  * ArrPirate smashes his face into his desk.
[21:05] <ArrPirate> I read the html file.
[21:05] <letstalkjoe> For some reason I'm having a brain fart and I can't remember, what is the command to find out the owner of a folder?
[21:06] <rhinovirus> my package installer wont close, how to i close it?
[21:06] <rhinovirus> do*
[21:06] <PurpZeY> rhinovirus: What error message?
[21:06] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: if your monitor says out of sync this can mean 2 things you runn a screen size to small or to large for your monitor
[21:06] <jeff__> PurpZeY: I had all the custom visual effects working but the update broke that. I've been reset to None in Appearances. If I try to enable I get "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[21:06] <dmitry__> could someone help me install xchat 2.8.4 in ubuntu 7.10?
[21:06] <Zeyelth> letstalkjoe: ls -lh gives you an extensive output.
[21:06] <letstalkjoe> k
[21:06] <rhinovirus> no error message, it just wont respond
[21:06] <apocalypt> PurpZeY, silent_: its working again. thank you so very much
[21:06] <letstalkjoe> Thanks Zeyelth.
[21:06] <ArrPirate> However, and here's the truly exciting part, it's set to run the proper resolution because the other monitor I was using has the exact same native resolution
[21:07] <Zeyelth> np
[21:07] <PurpZeY> jeff__: What kind of video card?
[21:07] <hypercity> i have this partition (/dev/sda3) that can be mounted only as root how can i set this partition to work for a normal usser?
[21:07]  * PurpZeY looks at silent in utter shock that it was that simple 
[21:07] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: For example the following line in your menu.lst give a different screen size
[21:07] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro vga=791
[21:07] <jeff__> PurpZeY: ATI Radeon X1150.
[21:07] <ac7ss> hypercity: what file system is it under?
[21:07] <ghostknife> How do I install libexpat? I have a program when I do (./configure) it keeps saying libexpat not found. I have "expat" and "libexpat1" installed.
[21:07] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: The vga=791 option tells the kernel to run at 1024x768
[21:07] <hypercity> ac7ss: ext3
[21:07] <PurpZeY> jeff__: xgl installed?
[21:07] <ArrPirate> telling me to read the html file over and over again is doing nothing but frustrating me because, again another surprise, I've read it several times already and it can do nothing to help me because I can't edit framebuffer in my BIOS and I can't see the GRUB menu or enough of the terminal to do anything about it there!
[21:08] <DMaster> irc://irc.rizon.net/ruhideout
[21:08] <ac7ss> what is the result of the
[21:08] <ac7ss> mount
[21:08] <ac7ss> listing?
[21:08] <silent_> apocalypti: no problem
[21:08] <ArrPirate> YES, I get you. I understand that. However, I can't see to edit the file that needs me to do that
[21:08] <hypercity> ac7ss: mount?
[21:08] <ac7ss> and is there an entry in /etc/fstab
[21:08] <unperson> Can anyone point me in the right direction for how to install themes for compiz-fusion on my Ubuntu Feisty system?
[21:08] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: ok then boot whith a live cd and edit it then
[21:08] <hypercity> ac7ss: yes
[21:08] <deephan> guys..i need to install a remote desktop client..(GUI)..which is the best one?
[21:08] <ChrisULM> im having trouble burning a dvd iso image. When i load the image in gnome baker i get this error http://pastebin.com/d6aa0ed22 . Any ideas?
[21:08] <ac7ss> type mount on a command shell.
[21:09] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Don't forget i am only trying to help ya
[21:09] <apocalypt1> PurpZeY, silent_: im online in ubuntu now, just confirming that it works. thank you both soo much
[21:09] <jeff__> PurpZeY: no xgl. I had too many problems with that on another laptop. Literally a clean install of Gutsy followed by ATI (via Envy f it matters)
[21:09] <unperson> As I expected, you can't do it through the System->Appearance interface, which is only for changing metacity themes, I think.
[21:09] <silent_> ChrisULM: right click the iso and hit burn
[21:09] <PurpZeY> !envy
[21:09] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:09] <ChrisULM> silent_, i did that and got the same error
[21:09] <ArrPirate> I'm grateful for the help, but repeating the same thing over and over again while ignoring what I am saying is less than helpful
[21:09] <nbogdanoff> did ubuntu-base get renamed in 7.10 ?
[21:10] <PurpZeY> jeff__: Use restricted drivers manager...do reconfigure if you have to...envy causes problems
[21:10] <deephan> i would like to install a remote desktop client..which is the best one?
[21:10] <silent_> ChrisULM: try K3B, it's a nice utility
[21:10] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Ok i give up. Good luck
[21:10] <ChrisULM> silent_ i'd rather fix the problem and use a gnome based program
[21:10] <Carroarmato0> Yo people, somehow my my ipod is set to read only for no reason, is there a way to make it writable again?
[21:10] <jeff__> PurpZeY: I was afraid you'd say that. OK.
[21:11] <ChrisULM> any suggestions?
[21:11] <ArrPirate> _-XPERT-_, I'm sorry for being irritable and taking it out on you. I'm just very frustrated.
[21:11] <PurpZeY> jeff__: Envy not supported or recommended around here. This is exactly why.
[21:11] <jizzim> does anyone have a good documentation to dual boot xp & 6.10?
[21:11] <silent_> ChrisULM: good luck with that! I love k3b
[21:12] <jizzim> xp is already installed successfully
[21:12] <jeff__> PurpZeY: Is a direct install from ATI's downloaded driver worse?
[21:12] <bluefoxx> grub error 23
[21:12] <ChrisULM> k3b is slow to load on gnome
[21:12] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Please boot whith a live CD and then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:12] <isaac_> Is it?
[21:12] <isaac_> Loads fine
[21:12] <bluefoxx> what is grub error 23?
[21:12] <hypercity> ac7ss: get my messg in privete?
[21:12] <jizzim> how do install ubuntu from disc? dual boot?
[21:12] <PurpZeY> jeff__: Use the restricted drivers manager, that's why it's there
[21:12] <isaac_> I'm on 1.4GHz and it does fine:P
[21:12] <silent_> bluefoxx: www.google.ca
[21:12] <PurpZeY> jizzim: Pick a less offensive name please
[21:12] <ArrPirate> if it boots and displays fine with a live cd, great. Otherwise, I don't see how this is going to help
[21:12] <ac7ss> no.
[21:13] <niceubuntu> sorry
[21:13] <bluefoxx> silent_: i came here for help, not to be told crap i allready know
[21:13] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: No worries...=)...Now you need help installing?
[21:13] <jeff__> PurpZeY: My understanding is that the restricted driver is old, doesn't support AIGLX and generally doesn't handle compiz 3d effects as well
[21:13] <hypercity> ac7ss: tryng to reregister
[21:13] <niceubuntu> yes. dual booting xp & .6.10
[21:13] <jakel1> jizzim: what do u mean how do u install from disc?
[21:13] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Your system is to old for you monitor so you need to tell your kernel to run another vga option
[21:14] <bluefoxx> i dont particularly enjoy sifting through the black hole of google
[21:14] <niceubuntu> gutsy has problems installing on this laptop
[21:14] <PurpZeY> jeff__: That might be....#compiz-fusion is the best place to ask about that, but definitely don't use envy.....And the RESTRICTED DRIVER manager, is not inherently the same as the driver itself.
[21:14] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: Then you will be able to see a normal terminal
[21:14] <rodolfo> how do i remove all existing panels from the desktop? it seems the last one cannot be removed...
[21:14] <jakel1> jizzim: did you burn the .iso to a disk as a disk image
[21:14] <bluefoxx> i want to know how to fix a "grub error 23"
[21:14] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: what is the problem?
[21:14] <_-XPERT-_> ArrPirate: And if this works then you can do a reconfigure for the xserver
[21:14] <boris> how do i check whether i got AIGLX acceleration ?
[21:15] <jeff__> PurpZeY: Sorry can you clarify the difference between the restricted driver manager and the driver itself for me please?
[21:15] <Empath> in grub, what would /dev/sda1 be?
[21:15] <niceubuntu> i want to know how to dual boot xp and ubuntu
[21:15] <subzero2000> Is there anything specific to getting drive status from an Adaptec SCSI RAID controller that uses the aacraid driver? I looked in /proc/scsi, but I need more information than is available there.
[21:15] <niceubuntu> how do i go about that?
[21:15] <PurpZeY> jeff__: As I understand it, the manager isn't tied to those drivers
[21:15] <Carroarmato0> Yo people, somehow my my ipod is set to read only for no reason, is there a way to make it writable again?
[21:15] <crdlb> jeff__: envy breaks things, and the new AIGLX support in the new fglrx driver is pretty terrible, so you gained nothing
[21:16] <PurpZeY> jeff__: And I could be wrong, it'd be the 3rd time in 2 days I was wrong....Ask in #compiz-fusion to make sure you get it tip-top
[21:16] <crdlb> jeff__: to make compiz wor well, you still need to install xserver-xgl
[21:16] <barbarella> Empath: (0,0)
[21:16] <PurpZeY> AJAH! /me was right for a change, he asked about xgl
[21:16] <nemanja> hello
[21:16] <jeff__> crdlb: It was working beautifully without xserver-xgl prior to the updates
[21:17] <crdlb> jeff__: that's the "envy breaks things" bit
[21:17]  * PurpZeY giggles
[21:17] <crdlb> it's just not worth the trouble
[21:17] <dooglus> can anyone recommend a way of defragmenting my ext3 partition?  this gutsy box is almost unusable now due to excess fragmentation, and it's getting worse all the time
[21:17] <PurpZeY> !defrag | dooglus
[21:17] <ubotu> dooglus: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[21:17] <dooglus> (please don't tell me that ext3 doesn't get fragmented)
[21:17] <dooglus> PurpZeY: what do you mean "not safe"?
[21:18] <PurpZeY> dooglus: I dunno, I just trigger the bot
[21:18] <poningru_> dooglus, uh... it doesnt get frangmented
[21:18] <nemanja> ima li ovde brace iz srebije?
[21:18] <kinection> i seem to have sound but only very quiet sound from my microphone.. if i blow into it  really hard i can hear it. How do i boost the capture volume? I alaready have gone into alsamixer and changed the capture and mic to 100%
[21:18] <d90> where I can download missing libs?
[21:18] <dooglus> poningru_: it does
[21:18] <poningru_> dooglus, its something else
[21:18] <dooglus> poningru_: it's not
[21:18] <jeff__> crdlb: OK, I've got to go through a few reboots so I'll be dropping out now.
[21:18] <poningru_> dooglus, do an fsck on that partition
[21:18] <puff> Hi, amarok crashedd and now it hangs on start up.  I get the usual x-windows-not-redrawing symptom, though the window frame still works, so eventually I force-quit it instead of killing the process.
[21:18] <dooglus> poningru_: fsdk tells me its fragmented
[21:18] <dooglus> fsck
[21:18] <rodolfo> PurpZeY: awn worked fine here..but i want to remove all panels left but the last one has the option 'remove this panel' disabled. is there a way to do it? also, how can i set awn to automatically start with ubuntu?
[21:18] <nemanja>  ima li ovde brace iz srbije?
[21:18] <poningru_> fsckr, that fixes it too
[21:18] <jeff__> PurpZeY:  Thanks for the help. As I said to crdlb I'm off to reboot
[21:19] <d90> nemanja: ima brate
[21:19] <boris> nemanja: nema, ima iz slovenije
[21:19] <poningru_> because ext3 defrags on the fly
[21:19] <PurpZeY> d90: Usually, when you are missing a lib use apt-cache search <partofname> then you'll find it, use sudo apt-get install
[21:19] <boris> a joj
[21:19] <nemanja> braco moja
[21:19] <PurpZeY> d90: without <>s
[21:19] <nemanja> pa sta radite ovde ja zalutao ali ubuntu je keva
[21:19] <dooglus> poningru_: the fragmentation on my ext3 partition is higher every time I check
[21:19] <d90> PurpZeY: Ok I will try THANX
[21:19] <dooglus> poningru_: over 20% of the files are framemented now
[21:19] <boris> nemanja: idi na #ubuntu-offtopic i ti, d90
[21:20] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: In order to start it with ubuntu you'll use  system --> pref --> session
[21:20] <puff> http://pastebin.com/d3828fdb6
[21:20] <bluefoxx> i deleted the partition containing gutsy off of my harddisk, and i left feisty on it, but now i get a message saying "grub error 23"
[21:20] <bluefoxx> how do i fix this?
[21:20] <d90> boris: ee pogledaj malo gore ja trazim resenje za neke librarys :S
[21:20] <PurpZeY> rodolfo: I don't follow the borders question entirely
[21:20] <poningru_> dooglus, noncontiguous != defrag
[21:20] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I need the directory /usr/src/linux-2-6-22.4?
[21:20] <d90> boris: nisam offtopic :D
[21:21] <PurpZeY> bluefoxx: I am saying this in a non-nasty way....why not google that grub error and see what it means?
[21:21] <Dandre> hello,
[21:21] <poningru_> bullgard4, you dont
[21:21] <Yv12345vY> bluefoxx, I'd Google for it
[21:21] <dooglus> poningru_: nonontiguous == fragmented
[21:21] <boris> d90 : pa znas koje librarye trebas ?
[21:21] <poningru_> dooglus, ... no its not
[21:21] <poningru_> ok not arguing with you anymore since you used that syntax
[21:22] <Carroarmato0> Somehow my my ipod is set to read only for no reason, is there a way to make it writable again?
[21:22] <poningru_> clearly you know enough to research this
[21:22] <PurpZeY> bluefoxx: then when you figure that out. . .
[21:22] <IdleOne> what GUI podcast app do you folks recommend ?
[21:22] <poningru_> and you are therefore trolling
[21:22] <bullgard4> poningru_: Have you got an idea how this directory came to my computer?
[21:22] <dooglus> poningru_: you started it. you used !=!
[21:22] <d90> boris: da trebaju mi ali nisam znao kako  da ih downloadujem :D evo jedan lik mi je rekao izgleda da radi :D
[21:22] <Dandre> I have updated my 7.04 to 7.10 on my dell inspiron 6400/ATI1400 and lost my graphic acceleration. What could I do?
[21:22] <boris> d90:  ok
[21:22] <d90> boris: btw SRECNA NOVA GODINA :D
[21:22] <poningru_> bullgard4, probably something installed the header stuff
[21:22] <PurpZeY> !english
[21:22] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[21:22] <boris> d90:  jednako
[21:22] <kinection> Am I supposed to have "Mic Boost"？ because I don't see it
[21:22] <siakattackj> I can't find any AMD64 version of skype..... any ideas??
[21:22] <poningru_> bullgard4, sudo aptitude uninstall linux-source-2.6 or something like that
[21:22] <dooglus> poningru_: I'm a C programmer.  How does that mean I know anything about how to defrag my ubuntu box?
[21:23] <bluefoxx> like i said, i dislike sifting through google results, takes forever, by the time i finish i could of built three new computers and installed and configured ubuntu onto them
[21:23] <gyaresu> bluefoxx: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-424768.html
[21:23] <PurpZeY> dooglus: It's a dead issue dude. It doesn't matter.
[21:23] <bluefoxx> gyaresu: ty
[21:23] <bullgard4> poningru_: Thank you for commenting.
[21:23] <poningru_> dooglus, no that means you should be able to research this, if you are a c coder you have the brains to look through documents of ext3 and figure this out yourself
[21:23] <odinriko> How do I burn or convert a .daa file?
[21:23] <dooglus> PurpZeY: my ubuntu box is getting slower and slower due to fragmentation.  I'd like to know whether it's possible to fix it without a complete reinstall
[21:24] <rgnr> !moto4lin
[21:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moto4lin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:24] <gyaresu> odinriko: as far as I recall it's a poweriso (or one of those windows only progs, maybe magic iso) and you'll need to use a windows os.
[21:24] <dooglus> poningru_: we all have "the brains" to read tedious technical documentation, but should we all?  I was hoping maybe someone here used their system enough to have encountered the problem before, and to know the solution
[21:25] <rgnr> need hlp with moto4lin
[21:25] <poningru_> dooglus, go annoy someone at #ubuntu-kernel
[21:25] <poningru_> or better yet go straight to #ext3
[21:25] <poningru_> err the latter dne
[21:25] <odinriko> gyaresu: Thank you...
[21:26] <dooglus> poningru_: why do you do this?  I'm trying to get support with ubuntu.  I don't need you distracting me.  If you just want to get in the way maybe you should find somewhere else to do it?
[21:26] <PurpZeY> !defrag
[21:26] <ubotu> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[21:26] <PurpZeY> Hmmm
[21:26] <Kyoukipichi> I'm trying to compile the newest version of DOSBox for i386 on an AMD64 machine. I set CC to gcc -m32, I installed the required libraries to compile them and run them, but I'm getting this error:
[21:26] <poningru_> dooglus, that ^^ is the only answer you will receive here good luck
[21:26] <dooglus> do it avoids fragmentation in most cases.  that's great.  I obviously have one of the other cases.  What do you do then?
[21:26] <Kyoukipichi> core_dynrec/decoder_opcodes.h:1247: error: cast from ‘PhysPt*’ to ‘Bitu’ loses precision
[21:27] <dooglus> s/d/s/
[21:27] <PurpZeY> dooglus: Check the forums I suppose...If it has happened to you, it has happened to others
[21:27] <koll> hello, is there a Linux expert I can trouble for a few minutes ?
[21:27] <PurpZeY> !ask | koll
[21:27] <ubotu> koll: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:27] <Kyoukipichi> Is this error a result of missing a library or something?
[21:27] <gyaresu> dooglus: What is the the problem (i've been reading the last few posts)?
[21:27] <th__> koll, 24/7
[21:27] <poningru_> odinriko, hold on
[21:28] <dooglus> gyaresu: my filesystem is getting increasingly fragmented.  things are getting slower and slower.  it's ext3.  how can I defrag it safely?
[21:28] <th__> !ask
[21:28] <atomix> good morning
[21:28] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:28] <th__> atomix, its night
[21:28] <PurpZeY> Kyoukipichi: I don't know what it means, but I don't think it is a library issue
[21:28] <th__> !ask dooglus
[21:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask dooglus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:28] <Kyoukipichi> ah
[21:29] <atomix> i just stand up a few minutes ago
[21:29] <odinriko> gyaresu: Thanks for saying poweriso, there is a version for *nix
[21:29] <atomix> must work tonight :(
[21:29] <gyaresu> odinriko: Link?
[21:29] <jakel1> dooglus: u dnt need to defrag a linux hard drive
[21:29] <odinriko> http://poweriso.com/poweriso.tar.gz
[21:29] <Kyoukipichi> I already managed to compile and install DOSBox for AMD64, but when I found out it runs slower on AMD64 than i386, due to some part that cannot be compiled on AMD64, I uninstalled it.
[21:29] <grep100_> is anyone using an Nvidia 8800 GT video card?
[21:29] <zcat[1]> Q: are there any extra packages on the DVD or is it just all-three-installdisks ?
[21:29] <th__> atomix, whats your profession?
[21:29] <dooglus> jakel1: that's a common misconception
[21:30] <pike_> grep100_: id wait for 8* cards and stick with 7 or 6 gen for now
[21:30] <Flannel> Kyoukipichi: Why did you compile it?  Its in the repositories
[21:30] <gyaresu> dooglus: What are you using to detect this fragmentation?
[21:30] <dooglus> gyaresu: fsck
[21:30] <grep100_> pike_: too late already running an nvida 8800gt
[21:30] <Flannel> zcat[1]: Its [install disk of choice] + alternate + extra packages
[21:30] <atomix> i build electro motors for "volkswagen" and bentlay
[21:30] <Flannel> zcat[1]: Its not all three
[21:30] <gyaresu> can you post the output of fsck to pastebin along with 'fdisk -l'
[21:31] <Kyoukipichi> Flannel: Because the Ubuntu version I'm using, Feisty Fawn for AMD64, has an old version of DOSBox.
[21:31] <zcat[1]> anywhere I can find a list of the extra packages? also isn't it gui + text installer + server ?
[21:31] <Flannel> zcat[1]: If you have an internet connection, all the packages on the DVD are available in the rpeositories
[21:31] <dooglus> gyaresu: fsck runs at boot-time.  I don't know how to copy the output
[21:31] <th__> atomix, are you german?
[21:31] <aladdinsane> simple question: how do i stop an operation in the terminal, for example when i do a Ping? Now it just keeps gping and i have to close the terminal to brake it
[21:31] <silent_> aladdinsane: ctrl z
[21:32] <zcat[1]> I know that.. just wondering what I can save myself downloading from repos if I use the DVD rather than CD
[21:32] <Flannel> zcat[1]: Its GUI + GUI Installer + Text Installer + PAckages.  'Server' being "non graphical installed system" yes, not LAMP stack pre-config
[21:32] <grep100_> control c, stops pings
[21:32] <Kevin`> ctrl+c
[21:32] <gyaresu> dooglus: 'cat /var/log/fsck/checkfs'
[21:32] <aladdinsane> silent_: thnx
[21:32] <Kevin`> ctrl+z suspends..
[21:32] <Kevin`> you dont want that
[21:32] <Flannel> zcat[1]: Well, those packages will mostly be obsolete now, because of regular updates.
[21:32] <Dandre> I have updated my 7.04 to 7.10 on my dell inspiron 6400/ATI1400 and lost my graphic acceleration. What could I do?
[21:32] <gyaresu> dooglus: 'cat /var/log/fsck/checkroot'
[21:32] <jakel1> dooglus: i've never heard of needing to defrag linux before
[21:32] <carina> how do i install the whole openoffice_
[21:32] <pvl1> is it possible to later the 'maximize' size?
[21:32] <Flannel> zcat[1]: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.list has a list of the packages
[21:32] <silent_> jakel1: depends what filesystem you use
[21:32] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, did you look into restricted drivers?
[21:33] <PurpZeY> Dandre: You need xgl....restricted drivers
[21:33] <rgnr> hlp needed with moto4lin
[21:33] <zcat[1]> Flannel: yeah, I know... I just want to know what those packages are.. I looked all over ubuntu.com and I can't find a description of what else is on the DVD
[21:33] <grep100_> is anyone using a Dell 2707WFP monitor?
[21:33] <rgnr> can't connect motorola v3c
[21:33] <jakel1> ext3 silent_
[21:33] <koll> Setup:Ubuntu 7.10 -- 1 drive, T61p laptop, with partitions { 1=/boot:/dev/sda2, 2=NTFS:/dev/sda1, 3=/:/dev/sda3, 4/5=SWAP:/dev/sda5 (extended partition) }. I used Clonezilla to backup the linux disk 3 (/dev/sda3) onto an image on the NTFS disk... no problem. Now my linux setup got screwed, so I tried partition restore with Clonezilla. Problem is Linux freezes at some point after initializing USB devices.
[21:33] <silent_> then no
[21:33] <jakel1> is what he is referring to
[21:33] <silent_> ext3 doesnt fragment
[21:33] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, moto4lin doesn't support v3c, sorry
[21:33] <Kevin`> silent_ of course it fragments
[21:33] <Kevin`> just not much
[21:33] <dooglus> gyaresu: that shows the FAT32 system check
[21:33] <jakel1> e2defrag will do it
[21:34] <rgnr> Yv12345vY:  you know that 4 sure?
[21:34] <jakel1> but you need to convert to ext2 first
[21:34] <zcat[1]> bah, I'll just diff the list for CD aainst DVD and see what I get :)
[21:34] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, yes, I tried to get my v3c to work as well with no luck
[21:34] <silent_> Kevin`: yea, but it was designed to minimize fragmentation
[21:34] <barbarella> doglust:i think your have to defrag your name
[21:34] <silent_> Kevin`: relative to FAT or ntfs, it doesnt fragment
[21:34] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, I got moto4lin to recognize it but that's about it, couldn't get any data out of it
[21:34] <gyaresu> jakel1: You don't want to do that.
[21:34] <blabla> d
[21:34] <jakel1> i know...
[21:34] <Dandre> the ATI1400 is enabled in restricted drivers
[21:34] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: same shit ( so sux
[21:34] <jakel1> i was explaining that ext3 can't really be defragged
[21:34] <zcat[1]> You don't need to defrag any modern filesystem, even ntfs is pretty free of frag problems these days...
[21:34] <jakel1> u dnt need to
[21:34] <zcat[1]> afaik anyhow..
[21:35] <blasla> gg
[21:35] <blasla> g
[21:35] <blasla> g
[21:35] <blasla> g
[21:35] <blasla> gg
[21:35] <silent_> jakel1: nope, one of the many reasons I prefer linux
[21:35] <silent_> blasla: stop being a tool
[21:35] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, you'll have to do sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl then go to Preferences and turn it on
[21:35] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: do u know  another app then?
[21:35] <jakel1> ext3 also doesn't do checksumming when writing to the journal
[21:35] <th__> blasla, you are fucking retard
[21:35] <dooglus> jakel1: which fs do you prefer?
[21:35] <jakel1> i was more answering dooglus
[21:35] <blssssss> s
[21:35] <jakel1> i use ext3
[21:35] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: kmobiletools doen't work either
[21:35] <jakel1> for linux
[21:35] <jakel1> and ntfs for windows
[21:35] <th__> ext2 rocks
[21:35] <blssssss> ss
[21:35] <blssssss> s
[21:35] <blssssss> s
[21:35] <bluefoxx> !spam blssssss
[21:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam blssssss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:35] <dooglus> jakel1: it's best to write my name if you're talking to me, or I won't notice you
[21:36] <blssssss> what is my nick
[21:36] <Nostahl> i have a motorola v3
[21:36] <jakel1> srry dooglus
[21:36] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, nothing I tried worked on Ubuntu, I could only get it to work on Windows
[21:36] <Dandre> I have errors like this in dmesg:
[21:36] <Dandre> [  199.208000] [fglrx] PCIe has already been initialized. Reinitializing ...
[21:36] <silent_> I hear reiserfs is also a nice fs, though I don't care much for change. ext3 works fine
[21:36] <Nostahl> what kind of cool stuff can i do with it and ubuntu
[21:36] <blssssss> aaa
[21:36] <jakel1> i was talking to a few people
[21:36] <dooglus> jakel1: not checksumming when writing the journal is a bonus?
[21:36] <sss> ss
[21:36] <sss> sssssssss
[21:36] <koll> !ask Setup:Ubuntu 7.10 -- 1 drive, T61p laptop, with partitions { 1=/boot:/dev/sda2, 2=NTFS:/dev/sda1, 3=/:/dev/sda3, 4/5=SWAP:/dev/sda5 (extended partition) }. I used Clonezilla to backup the linux disk 3 (/dev/sda3) onto an image on the NTFS disk... no problem. Now my linux setup got screwed, so I tried partition restore with Clonezilla. Problem is Linux freezes at some point after initializing USB devices.
[21:36] <sss> eddddddddd
[21:36] <gyaresu> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/defragment/index.php
[21:36] <blssssss> wwwww
[21:36] <silent_> sss: words cannot describe how much you fail
[21:36] <jussi01> !ops ?| sss flooding
[21:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:36] <blssssss> ok
[21:36] <zcat[1]> I was running reiserfs for a while.. can't see much advantage though, nothing really makes use of the underlying structure...
[21:36] <gyaresu> Can we leave the defrag issue alone now?
[21:36] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: heh  then i got xp on vbox ))
[21:36] <blssssss> sorry
[21:36] <silent_> !ops
[21:36] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[21:36] <acid-core> http://superchin.de
[21:37] <acid-core> see my chinchilla :D
[21:37] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, not sure what that means but after installing xserver-xgl I had to edit /etc/xorg.conf to turn Compiz on (change 0 to 1) and then reboot and it worked :-)
[21:37] <Dandre> Yv12345vY: xserver-xgl is already installed
[21:37] <kane77> I still can't understand trolls... :/
[21:37] <silent_> neither
[21:37] <jakel1> not really an advantage dooglus other than the fact that it saves time
[21:37] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, not sure about virtual, sorry
[21:37] <jakel1> is ext4 out yet?
[21:37] <koll> help!
[21:37] <dooglus> gyaresu: the woman has problems as soon as she has a file bigger than the biggest gap
[21:37] <silent_> I'm running ext5
[21:37] <Kevin`> yes jakel1
[21:37] <jakel1> it was announced like in 2006
[21:37] <jakel1> cool
[21:38] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, do you have the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Section "Extensions"        Option          "Composite"     "1" EndSection
[21:38] <jakel1> i haven't used it yet... dnt really know much about it
[21:38] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: gonna try that anyways no choice left ))
[21:38] <gyaresu> dooglus: Is your hdd full?
[21:38] <jakel1> koll: what you need help with
[21:38] <jakel1> dooglus: you said u were using ext3 right?
[21:38] <Dandre> I am testing without compiz yet and I have very pour performances far worse than on my 7.04
[21:38] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, it's worth a shot, I have a very specific guide for getting things working on Windows, just msg me
[21:38] <pvl1> is there any way to change the maximize size?
[21:38] <Amaranth> jakel1: 'The filesystem is currently marked as developmental and is titled "ext4dev".'
[21:38] <rathel> I need help with a script, I'm trying to batch enocde my MPEG movies to Divx AVI, This is what I have so far and it doesn't seem tot work.
[21:39] <dooglus> gyaresu: it's 99% full mostly, yes
[21:39] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, you did say you upgraded right?  I had similar issues after an upgrade, ended up installing fresh
[21:39] <rgnr> Yv12345vY: 10x d00d will do
[21:39] <dooglus> jakel1: ext3, yes
[21:39] <silent_> jakel1: now I just need an exbibyte drive
[21:39] <jakel1> Amaranth, oh... still?  i thought it'd be done by now
[21:39] <blssssss> i need help
[21:39] <Yv12345vY> rgnr, good luck
[21:39] <Amaranth> jakel1: Filesystems are not done quickly
[21:39] <jakel1> silent_ i got 16TB
[21:39] <blssssss> i need help
[21:39] <bluefoxx> blssssss: yes, indeed you do
[21:39] <silent_> jakel1: seriously?
[21:39] <culix> hello together, i have a problem with the postinst script of mysql-server-5.0 on dapper, it hangs
[21:39] <Amaranth> jakel1: I suspect they'll clear it for safe use by the end of the year
[21:39] <jakel1> blssssss, waht you need
[21:39] <Dandre> I have this:
[21:39] <Dandre>         Option          "Composite"     "disable"
[21:39] <Dandre>         Option          "Composite"     "0"
[21:39] <jakel1> silent_ it's RAID
[21:39] <silent_> blssssss: you need to get out.
[21:40] <silent_> jakel1: mirroring, I assume
[21:40] <jakel1> Raid 0
[21:40] <silent_> wow.
[21:40] <silent_> I don't believe you
[21:40] <Amaranth> silent_: How could you have 16TB mirroring? It'd have to be striping :P
[21:40] <Dandre> and I do have upgraded but I'd rather not to reinstall all the distro
[21:40] <silent_> Amaranth: multiple computers
[21:40] <subzero2000> I finally found what I was looking for to monitor an aacraid based controller at ftp://noc.hep.wisc.edu/pub/src/nagios/check_aacraid_raid, which uses arcconf, which is part of Adaptec's StorageMonitor download.
[21:40] <Amaranth> silent_: That wouldn't be one single 16TB storage space then
[21:40] <jakel1> lol... why not
[21:41] <blssssss> Do you know how to start this??
[21:41] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, comment out the first one by putting # in front and change 0 to 1
[21:41] <silent_> Amaranth if you used unionfs it would
[21:41] <nemanja> ima li srba?
[21:41] <Amaranth> silent_: unionfs is read-only
[21:41] <silent_> but thats just namespace I suppose, perhaps lvm could do it
[21:41] <jeff__> crdlb: Hey, just in case you are curious I got my effects back. A simply reinstall of the driver fixed the problem. Looks liek the compiz update just trashed my config files that's all.
[21:41] <bluefoxx> is it possible for just the SATA controllers of my coputer to burn out, cause my SATA drive isnt working
[21:41] <dooglus> gyaresu: currently: /dev/sda2              55G   52G  339M 100% /
[21:41] <silent_> unionfs isn't read-only, it just uses the first drive referenced for writing
[21:41] <Amaranth> silent_: You'd have to use freenas
[21:41] <bluefoxx> computer*kbd dying
[21:41] <gyaresu> dooglus: hdparm output?
[21:41] <dooglus> gyaresu: ie. it's not really that full, but the system keeps some percentage back for root's use
[21:41] <eeeandrew> anyone know if theres an ubuntu program similar to microsoft autoroute?
[21:42] <koll> is anyone reading my question ?
[21:42] <ilor> my keyboard layout somehow got changed to international, how do I change it back to something with working quote marks?
[21:42] <crdlb> jeff__: no, a mesa or kernel update, compiz has nothing to do with it
[21:42] <Dandre> ok back in 30 sec
[21:42] <Yv12345vY> koll, what's your question?
[21:42] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, cool
[21:42] <koll> Setup:Ubuntu 7.10 -- 1 drive, T61p laptop, with partitions { 1=/boot:/dev/sda2, 2=NTFS:/dev/sda1, 3=/:/dev/sda3, 4/5=SWAP:/dev/sda5 (extended partition) }. I used Clonezilla to backup the linux disk 3 (/dev/sda3) onto an image on the NTFS disk... no problem. Now my linux setup got screwed, so I tried partition restore with Clonezilla. Problem is Linux freezes at some point after initializing USB devices.
[21:42] <Amaranth> silent_: You can have a unionfs between a read-only and a read-write system but you can't mount that again unless the read-write system is wiped clean
[21:42] <dooglus> gyaresu: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/hdparm.txt
[21:42] <PurpZeY> !pm | koll
[21:42] <ubotu> koll: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[21:42] <jeff__> crdlb: OK, either way I've got my 3d effects again :)
[21:43] <Yv12345vY> koll, I got nothing for you, sorry man
[21:43] <koll> I PMed you PurpZey
[21:43] <jakel1> blssssss, what you need help with?
[21:43] <PurpZeY> right
[21:43] <poningru_> eeeandrew, what does autoroute do?
[21:43] <PurpZeY> did I ask you to? did you ask me to?
[21:43] <jakel1> silent_, why dnt you believe me?
[21:43] <Dandre> that didn't solve the issue
[21:43] <poningru_> odinriko, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Access_Archive
[21:43] <eeeandrew> poningru: its map software. type in a postcode and it'll give you maps
[21:44] <koll> wgar do you mean by "!pm | koll" ?
[21:44] <koll> what do you mean by "!pm | koll" ?
[21:44] <mirak> hi
[21:44] <silent_> jakel1: there's no reason you'd need 16TB.. I have just over 1TB and don't use all of it
[21:44] <jakel1> koll: what is your problem
[21:44] <mirak> does anyone knows how to reconfigure the locales ?
[21:44] <koll> Setup:Ubuntu 7.10 -- 1 drive, T61p laptop, with partitions { 1=/boot:/dev/sda2, 2=NTFS:/dev/sda1, 3=/:/dev/sda3, 4/5=SWAP:/dev/sda5 (extended partition) }. I used Clonezilla to backup the linux disk 3 (/dev/sda3) onto an image on the NTFS disk... no problem. Now my linux setup got screwed, so I tried partition restore with Clonezilla. Problem is Linux freezes at some point after initializing USB devices.
[21:44] <PurpZeY> koll: You're PMing the entire channel and repeating yourself, it's annoying
[21:44] <Jowi> koll, unplug all USB devices (excluding keyboard/mouse if that's what you use). reboot (yes I know, but do it anyway). in gnome disable the automounts of the usb/disks. mount the disk by hand. see if that works better...
[21:44] <Amaranth> silent_: Maybe he wants to archive the internet
[21:44] <jakel1> silent_ i work at a company Zweave software inc
[21:44] <Dandre> I remember some warning in the toolbar complainig about something liake xsession-xgl but I don't remember exactly
[21:44] <jakel1> in Boston
[21:44] <juan> whats the best way to copy all my settings to a new install
[21:44] <jmaldon> hi, looking 4 some help me please. fairly new to linux so can anyone recommend a md5/sha1/sha2 etc calculator for linux WITH gui please? does one exist? something similar to quicksfv, hksfv or fsum frontend in windows
[21:44] <silent_> jakel1: so they aren't your drives then... they're the companies
[21:44] <dooglus> gyaresu: I'm running an "fsck -n" on the (mounted, root) partition.  it's on pass 5 now.
[21:44] <rathel> Hmm.. anyway to restart the hardware part of linux without restarting the computer? I had a usb drive that just stopped recently and I don't want to reboot right now, and my desktop seems frozen and I cannot mount a network drive because of it.. lol
[21:44] <Dandre> How should I get this warning again?
[21:45] <jakel1> well i own the company
[21:45] <odinriko> poningru Thanks for checkin
[21:45] <Amaranth> silent_: He could also have a massive anime collection
[21:45] <jakel1> and they are in my loft
[21:45] <silent_> Amaranth: not even
[21:45] <gyaresu> dooglus: You should do that from a boot disk.
[21:45] <jakel1> cuz that's where i work from primarily, unless i am in new york
[21:45] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, I'm not sure what you're talking about
[21:45] <dooglus> gyaresu: it's safe enough with the -n flag
[21:45] <jakel1> koll: what is the question?
[21:45] <jakel1> sheesh
[21:45] <gyaresu> dooglus: ah. good.
[21:45] <poningru_> odinriko, http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/viewpage.php?page_id=2
[21:45] <silent_> though I do plan on making an actual server machine sometime soon.. what's the max number of sata ports on botherboards these days?
[21:45] <jakel1> he complains over no one answering him, yet when we ask wat the question is he doesn't respond
[21:46] <hotdiggety> g'day all
[21:46] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, can you go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance, hit the Visual Effects tab and enable them there?
[21:46] <gyaresu> jakel1: ^^ He did.
[21:46] <dxdemetriou> hi, I have a problem with suspend on 7.10. It worked before, but when I have installed the xubuntu-desktop it don't work. anybody knows if I can fix it?
[21:46] <barbarella> rathel:when it is frozen, you have to reset the computer.
[21:46] <hotdiggety> just installed ubuntu and what a pleasure in comparison to any other product, namely windows
[21:46] <julian__> hi i was wondering if some one can help me out here with a small problem i am having setting up compiz fusion
[21:46] <poningru_> odinriko, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638048
[21:46] <jakel1> oh... what was the question?
[21:46] <jakel1> i missed it
[21:46] <Ryuki> Hey
[21:47] <gyaresu> < koll> Setup:Ubuntu 7.10 -- 1 drive, T61p laptop, with partitions { 1=/boot:/dev/sda2, 2=NTFS:/dev/sda1, 3=/:/dev/sda3, 4/5=SWAP:/dev/sda5 (extended  partition) }. I used Clonezilla to backup the linux disk 3 (/dev/sda3) onto an image on the NTFS disk... no problem. Now my linux setup got
[21:47] <neverblue> i have been using swiftfox for awhile now, how can I completely remove it, and resort back to FF ?
[21:47] <gyaresu>  screwed, so I tried partitin restore with Clonezilla. Problem is Linux freezes at some point after initializting USB devices.
[21:47] <poningru_> eeeandrew, sorry dude I dont know about any... the best is probably something online like google maps or something like that
[21:47] <Yv12345vY> julian__, is there such a thing as a small problem setting up compiz?  I think you should just ask your question.
[21:47] <gyaresu> meh. quoted only the end.
[21:47] <Ryuki> I need to know how to edit the menu manually, I have the link, but I try to understand it.
[21:47] <z3cU3c4> Hello guys... Im with a error when i try to compile a program... the error is: install recursive... it apeear when i put the command: sudo make install
[21:47] <poningru_> neverblue, how did you install it?
[21:47] <jakel1> eeek.... that seems like a very complicated scenerio... dnt think i have ever found myself in such a predicament
[21:47] <dooglus> gyaresu: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/fsck.txt
[21:47] <eeeandrew> thanks anyway poningru...does anyone else know any?
[21:48] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, move the swiftfox installation directory
[21:48] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, btw, swiftfox now = swiftweasel
[21:48] <sunONrise_> ighway.net
[21:48] <neverblue> poningru, sudo aptitude
[21:48] <jakel1> z3cU3c4, try with -r
[21:48] <hotdiggety> wondering if any one could help me with a few queries
[21:48] <jakel1> i think that is recursive
[21:48] <z3cU3c4> make: ** [install-recursive] Erro 1
[21:48] <poningru_> neverblue, then just do sudo aptitude uninstall swiftfox
[21:48] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, good to know, move the installation dir ?
[21:48] <jakel1> sudo make install -r
[21:48] <Dandre> I get this error: Desktop effects could not be enabled
[21:48] <z3cU3c4> ok, i will try
[21:48] <bluefoxx> z3cU3c4: try using "sudo apt-get install"
[21:48] <PurpZeY> Dandre: You need xgl....restricted drivers
[21:48] <gyaresu> dooglus: Yeah. Your file system has errors. Have you run an fsck from a boot disk?
[21:48] <poningru_> hotdiggety, query away
[21:48] <neverblue> poningru, and i shouldnt be concerned about losing any settings ?
[21:49] <jakel1> bluefoxx: unless it's source
[21:49] <rodolfo> Amaranth: awn worked fine here..but i want to remove all panels left but the last one has the option 'remove this panel' disabled. is there a way to do it?
[21:49] <dooglus> gyaresu: I think that's just because it's mounted
[21:49] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, yeah, mv swiftfox swiftfox.backup just in case things get screwed up
[21:49] <dooglus> gyaresu: the point is, it's very fragmented
[21:49] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, or just run firefox, it should work just fine
[21:49] <Amaranth> rodolfo: You could just remove gnome-panel from your session
[21:49] <julian__> okay basically i have 7.12 ati driver installed on a x1300 mobile gpu and every single time i enable it in appearance it comes up with an error saying desktop effects could not be enabled
[21:49] <Dandre> PurpZeY: How could I install it?
[21:49] <jakel1> but it's ext3 it cnt be fragmented
[21:49] <Amaranth> rodolfo: System->Preferences->Sessions
[21:49] <gyaresu> "dooglus: Yeah. Your file system has errors. Have you run an fsck from a boot disk?"
[21:49] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, ever use swiftfox yourself ?
[21:49] <Amaranth> rodolfo: But then you have no clock or notification area
[21:49] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Managers
[21:49] <jakel1> Dandre, what graphics card u have?
[21:50] <julian__> x1300 mobility radeon
[21:50] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, exclusively use swiftweasel/swiftfox for months now, are you having problems?
[21:50] <dooglus> gyaresu: I run an fsck every 30 boots to fix things.  I don't generally boot from boot disks, no
[21:50] <Dandre> it is already installed
[21:50] <jakel1> oh jeez... i had that same ATI card
[21:50] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, since its new, there are always issues
[21:50] <Yv12345vY> julian__, did you install xserver-xgl?
[21:50] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, such as?
[21:50] <Arelis> Does anybody know how i can run a command on the command line every time for each file i give it? I want to use some program to download stuff but i don't think it supports multiple files, so i want to run it for each file. How?
[21:50] <Dandre> jakel1: ATI1400
[21:50] <jakel1> i got the driver, yet it never supported xgl
[21:50] <jakel1> i had an ATI...    did you install the driver for it?
[21:50] <julian__> um no why does that not come with it
[21:50] <dxdemetriou> can I find what could block suspend and don't work on Gutsy?
[21:50] <hotdiggety> poningru: thank you. I have now installed ubuntu successfully on my desktop, but now I sit with the dilema that all the laptops that were connected prior to this installation to access the internet no longer are able to connect
[21:50] <Dandre> yes
[21:50] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, i really dont want to discuss it at this point, maybe tomorrow if your around, atm, I just want to completely remove it
[21:51] <julian__> ok so i gues i just apt-get that and should that fix it
[21:51] <SiLOX> Anyone familiar with squirrelmail and unix encrypted passwords here - please?
[21:51] <MarcoPau> hello, since I upgraded to gutsy I can't print and get this error in the cups' printer page: /usr/lib/cups/backend/mfp failed. Does anybody have a hint?
[21:51] <Dandre> my system worked perfectly with 7.04
[21:51] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, just delete the directory and that's it
[21:51] <jakel1> hotdiggety, are they wireless?
[21:51] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, which dir ?
[21:51] <gyaresu> dooglus: I would do that.
[21:51] <jakel1> julian_ apt-get what?
[21:51] <Kevin`> hotdiggety so ou want to set up the desktop as a router?
[21:51] <zobban> how can i convert a divx into dvd
[21:51] <hotdiggety> jakel1: yes
[21:51] <rodolfo> Amaranth: it worked xD ... but how can i put it back? ô_ô
[21:51] <jakel1> let me guess broadcom?
[21:51] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, wherever swiftfox is installed to, maybe /opt/swiftfox?
[21:52] <hotdiggety> one of them with XP SP2 and the other with Vista
[21:52] <julian__> apt-get xserver-xgl
[21:52] <Amaranth> rodolfo: do whatever you just did in reverse
[21:52] <kenro> I just bought a copy of Clive Owen's  -Shoot 'em Up- and can't do a * thing with it. Anyone know how to get css sorted out?
[21:52] <dooglus> gyaresu: do you think that might help my problem?  I can see it will fix the unrelated problem of having a few inconsistencies on the disk, but will it help with the fragmentation?
[21:52] <jakel1> hotdiggety, you are using a broadcom chipset right?
[21:52] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, nope, not in /opt
[21:52] <julian__> to get compiz fusion running
[21:52] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, can you install fresh instead of upgrading?
[21:52] <gyaresu> dooglus: The other issue could be a dying hard drive.
[21:52] <jakel1> julian_ well it won't run if your graphics card doesn't support XGL
[21:52] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, how did you install swiftfox?
[21:52] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I am using a 4 port wireless ADSL router connected via a SMC switch
[21:52] <eeeandrew> anyone know any ubuntu programs that are similar to microsoft autoroute?
[21:52] <dooglus> gyaresu: dying hard drives can cause high fragmentation?
[21:52] <jakel1> and i dnt think the ATI drivers do for linux
[21:52] <julian__> i did install my gpu driver from the binary so maybe i forgot a dependency lke that
[21:52] <gyaresu> dooglus: You won't have defrag issues. It's the file system that is corrupt.
[21:53] <zobban> how can i convert a divx into dvd
[21:53] <neverblue> Yv12345vY,  sudo aptitude
[21:53] <Dandre> I have lots of data on my system Yv12345vY
[21:53] <amorphous_> ok - who's good with graphics?
[21:53] <bluefoxx> is it possible for just the SATA controllers of my computer to burn out, cause my SATA drive isnt working
[21:53] <jakel1> but what type of wireless card hotdiggety
[21:53] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, got ya
[21:53] <z3cU3c4> bluefoxx: the error continues
[21:53] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, sudo apt-get remove swiftfox
[21:53] <jakel1> hotdiggety, are the laptops connected to the router via wireless or wired
[21:53] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, or find it in Synaptic and remove it that way
[21:53] <dooglus> gyaresu: the file system is inconsistent AND 30% of the files are fragmented
[21:53] <neverblue> is that available via the 'basic' repos ?
[21:53] <bluefoxx> z3cU3c4: are your sources up to date?
[21:54] <kenro> Or exhausting all other options, where might I dl the vidfile?
[21:54] <O_> anyone know how can i increase screen refresh rate to more than 60 hz?
[21:54] <z3cU3c4> bluefoxx: apt-get update upgrade??
[21:54] <pike_> O_: its umpossible
[21:54] <jakel1> O_ is ur screen flickering at 60hz?
[21:54] <ilor> how do I change the keyboard layout (in shell, no x)
[21:54] <O_> yes, gives me headaches
[21:54] <Kevin`> hotdiggety so you have router-switch-all computers?
[21:54] <Dandre> I have 2 Device section with driver fglrx in my xorg.conf, can thi be the problem?
[21:54] <jakel1> is it LCD O_
[21:54] <hotdiggety> jakel1: wireless through the router
[21:55] <bluefoxx> z3cU3c4: apt get update, i belive
[21:55] <O_> no its an ple compaq crt
[21:55] <gyaresu> dooglus: Run the fsck.ext3 from a boot disk and then you should also run the seatools disk to test the hdd is still good.
[21:55] <jakel1> ok.... so what type of wireless card does the laptop have hotdiggety
[21:55] <Yv12345vY> Dandre, you want to use the fglrx driver, is it the same device listed twice?
[21:55] <O_> old*
[21:55] <amorphous_> I have one user can see ok - i managed to set drivers as generic 1024x1280, but others have huge graphics (800x600) and go out of range if I try to switch users :/
[21:55] <ilor> anyone?
[21:55] <hotdiggety> Kevin: ???, sorry pretty new to all this
[21:55] <kenro> Where might I get a libdvdcss-enabled movie player?
[21:55] <neverblue> yeah, looks like its available in the repos
[21:55] <z3cU3c4> make: ** [install-recursive] Erro 1
[21:55] <Dandre> the Busid is the same
[21:55] <Yv12345vY> !dvd > kenro
[21:56] <gyaresu> !codecs > kenro
[21:56] <z3cU3c4> all: this is the error
[21:56] <Kevin`> hotdiggety what is connected to this switch
[21:56] <gyaresu> snap
[21:56] <neverblue> but I dont want to lose any data stored in swiftfox, before I remove it, is there anything I need to be concerned about ?
[21:56] <mw-home> I need help making a vnc connection from one ubuntu box to another.  when I connect, I get a window, but I don't see anything like toolbars inside.
[21:56] <hotdiggety> jakel1: it has a AEGIS Protocol IEEE 802.1x v3.6.0.0
[21:56] <neverblue> or does it just use all my FF settings ?
[21:56] <julian__> i installed xserver-xgl should i restart my computer to see if this allows compiz fusion to work
[21:56] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, you shouldn't, that data should be stored in your home directory
[21:56] <mw-home> also, the window is much too small, and won't scroll.
[21:56] <jakel1> Kevin: he is trying to connect his laptop to his wireless router via wireless... i think it may be a driver issue
[21:56] <amorphous_> Q is - how do I make then all the same? - new gutsy upgrade on dell optiplex320 radion xpress 200... and a viewsonic screed
[21:56] <julian__> or is their more i should do
[21:56] <kenro> Yv12345vY: Explain, please?
[21:56] <gyaresu> neverblue: all your data should be in a 'dot' folder in your home directory.
[21:56] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, hit alt + f2 and type in firefox, does it look the same?
[21:56] <jakel1> hotdiggety: does it work plugged in throught the ethernet port
[21:56] <jakel1> ?
[21:56] <Yv12345vY> kenro, did you get a message with instructions?
[21:56] <O_> how about ejecting the cd while running a live session possible?
[21:56] <poningru_> neverblue, mmm not sure about that
[21:57] <hotdiggety> kevin: I have my desktop connected to the switch and a second desktop with no screen, mouse or keyboard and the ADSL router
[21:57] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, if you have FF and swiftfox installed, you press alt + F2 and type in FF, see what you gete
[21:57] <Kevin`> hotdiggety are you using 802.1x or are you using normal wep or wpa
[21:57] <kenro> Yv12345vY: Oh OK I got it.
[21:57] <zobban> how can i convert a divx into dvd
[21:57] <hotdiggety> jakel1: oops sorry yes.....
[21:57] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, I get a Firefox browser
[21:57] <gyaresu> !nick
[21:57] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[21:57] <hotdiggety> kevin: WPA
[21:57] <jakel1> hotdiggety, ok... it's a driver issue
[21:58] <jakel1> hotdiggety, you need to install the linux driver for the wireless card
[21:58] <okeefenokee> Hi folks. I just upgraded to Gutsy from edgy, and found out that inittab is wiped out, which is a mouthful ;) Now, I'd like to disable tty1 from the shell since I'm running VDR under tty1 (am I clear enough here?). How would I do that (from something  called upstart, obviously).
[21:58] <Kevin`> hotdiggety so the router is just working as an access point, it's not routing anything?
[21:58] <hotdiggety> driver issue on the laptop running XP SP2?
[21:58] <hotdiggety> keving: I would assume that as correct
[21:58] <neverblue> I on the other hand, receive a Swiftfox broswer
[21:58] <neverblue> browser*
[21:58] <pike_> !upstart| okeefenokee
[21:58] <ubotu> okeefenokee: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:58] <Kevin`> hotdiggety where is your modem or other device for connecting to the internet?
[21:58] <jakel1> hotdiggety: is your wireless assigning IP addresses?
[21:59] <hotdiggety> keving: the laptop network connection is telling me that it is connected to the router, but I have no internet connectivity
[21:59] <flush> yo
[21:59] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, can you do ls ~/.mozilla
[21:59] <Xintruder> hi
[21:59] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, and tell me if you see firefox in there?
[21:59] <Yv12345vY> Xintruder, hi
[21:59] <jakel1> hotdiggety, go to terminal type ifconfig what do u get?
[21:59] <jakel1> use pastebin
[21:59] <jakel1> !pastebin
[21:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:59] <flush> yo i have asus p4p800 motherboard it runs ram pc3200 actually, i know ddr pc400 works too.. is it the same thing or its another supported type that cannot be run mixed with the pc3200 ??
[21:59] <nomic> please I type sudo apt-get (anything) for instance sudo apt-get update and i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future jul 27 06:26:35 2026
[21:59] <nomic> ?
[21:59] <bullgard4> http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ lists 15 kernel varieties (files) linux-2.6.22.x where x= 1 bis 15 , as well as linux-2.6.22 without a number suffix. How differs linux-2.6.22 from the kernels with a number suffix?
[21:59] <jakel1> !pastebin | hotdiggety
[21:59] <ubotu> hotdiggety: please see above
[21:59] <Xintruder> is windows vista better than ubuntu for graphics, things like movies , multimedia, flash, and such.. ?
[21:59] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, obviously there is a ~/.mozilla/firefox dir
[21:59] <Kevin`> hotdiggety we need to start over from the beginning, with your setup. what is the outermost device in your network that your isp gave you?
[22:00] <neverblue> else I could not install swiftfox...
[22:00] <gyaresu> flush: Chuck it in. If the machine posts (starts) it'll be fine.
[22:00] <Yv12345vY> Xintruder, interesting question, can you be more detailed?
[22:00] <bullgard4> http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ lists 15 kernel varieties (files) linux-2.6.22.x where x= 1 through 15 , as well as linux-2.6.22 without a number suffix. How differs linux-2.6.22 from the kernels with a number suffix?
[22:00] <flush> yarr
[22:00] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, that's where all the data should be, so if you remove swiftfox and install firefox you shouldn't lose anything
[22:00] <okeefenokee> ubotu: Yeah, I had a poke around but didn't find what I was looking for (immediately, that is). Thing is, in my prev edgy-installation I had commented out the following line: #1:345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1, which means that vdr had lone access to tty1. Is this something I do through upstart, or what has compensated this particular part of inittab?
[22:00] <gyaresu> flush: It'll just run at the slower speed. (for really very little difference)
[22:00] <Andycass1> how to display sym links?
[22:00] <Andycass1> is there somekind of list command?
[22:01] <Yv12345vY> Andycass1, ls -l
[22:01] <eeeandrew> anyone know a program for ubuntu that does the same as microsoft autoroute?
[22:01] <jakel1> Kevin`, wouldn't it make more sense to see if he has an ip address first before going through his physical infrastructure
[22:01] <Xintruder> Yv12345vY, well, i do have problems running flash in the live cd, and always had problems running youtube clips on my gentoo. I was wondering if ubuntu would be any better than windows in such things
[22:01] <flush> gyaresu
[22:01] <okeefenokee> pike: Where, then?
[22:01] <Andycass1> Yv12345vY: thanks
[22:01] <jakel1> as he knows it works with other OSes as it was working before
[22:01] <flush> i can mix pc3200 with ddr pc400 ?
[22:01] <gyaresu> flush: Yes.
[22:01] <Kevin`> jakel1 his other computers stopped working when he installed linux. something is very wrong with his setup
[22:01] <Yv12345vY> Xintruder, it won't be a problem once you install Gutsy, guaranteed
[22:01] <Ryuki> anyboanybody can teach me how to remove YIM manually in xfce menu editor?
[22:02] <Yv12345vY> Andycass1, symlinks are treated the same as anything else in linux/unix
[22:02] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, your guess is firefox is not installed ?
[22:02] <jakel1> oh i thought he meant he had installed linux to all of them when they stopped working
[22:02] <flush> gyaresu
[22:02] <flush> pc3200 is not pc400 right ? but they will work together ?
[22:02] <barbarella> nomic:sudo -K
[22:02] <jakel1> maybe one of his machines is giving out IP addresses
[22:02] <gyaresu> flush: Just ask the question after using someone's name flush :)
[22:02] <Kevin`> i'd prefer to have all the information, in any case
[22:02] <Xintruder> Well if you mean ubuntu by gutsy, I cant see why would it work after the installation, but wont during the live cd!!!???
[22:02] <Kevin`> guessing isn't worth it
[22:02] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I have gone to terminal and typed in ipconfig and received command not found message
[22:02] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, try doing which firefox then ls -l that file (ls -l /usr/bin/firefox I guess) and it should show you what's really starting up
[22:02] <Kevin`> hotdiggety we need to start over from the beginning, with your setup. what is the outermost device in your network that your isp gave you?
[22:02] <gyaresu> hotdiggety: 'if'config
[22:02] <flush> hrm
[22:02] <bluefoxx> flush: works fine with mine, though its pc2100 and 3300
[22:03] <jakel1> ifconfig hotdiggety
[22:03] <MikeH> can anyone offer any suggestions why when I've disabled my screensaver, it still comes on
[22:03] <jakel1> not ipconfig*
[22:03] <Yv12345vY> Xintruder, Ubuntu Gutsy is the latest version so yes, same thing, and after installation b/c it'll install a plugin for Firefox, what happens when you go to a website that has flash content on it?  It should prompt you to install the plugin
[22:03] <Rille> Här finns det gott om hjälpsamma svenskar va?:D
[22:03] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, its there
[22:03] <PurpZeY> !ska
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ska - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <vee_> hi.  I just reinstalled 7.10, I cannot see my second drive under /media but if I go to system monitor its there /dev/sdb1.... any thoughts
[22:03] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, and it's not a symlink to anywhere?
[22:03] <PurpZeY> !sven
[22:04] <okeefenokee> rille: Inga svenner, bara finnar.
[22:04] <bullgard4> http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ lists 15 kernel varieties (files) linux-2.6.22.x where x= 1 through 15 , as well as linux-2.6.22 without a number suffix. How differs linux-2.6.22 from the kernels with a number suffix?
[22:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sven - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:04] <PurpZeY> bork bork bork
[22:04] <hotdiggety> jakel1: got it
[22:04] <Rille> Ok, var finner ja svenskarna då?:)
[22:04] <ikonia> bullgard4: the last number is just the ubuntu build number
[22:04] <gyaresu> PurpZeY: nice. That should have worked ;)
[22:04] <jakel1> ok... what does it say for ip address?
[22:04] <XVampireX> Hi
[22:04] <Yv12345vY> hi
[22:04] <gyaresu> !hi > XVampireX
[22:04] <jakel1> hotdiggety, what IP address does it give u?
[22:04] <barbarella> vee_:and is it there when you type df -h in a console?
[22:04] <XVampireX> I want to ask a simple question, hope it's not too bad :)
[22:04] <Xintruder> Yv12345vY, so installing the plug-in is no fuss, there will be no errors? can i say that problem of browsing will not exist again???
[22:05] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for explaining.
[22:05] <gyaresu> !ask > XVampireX
[22:05] <vee_> barbarella lemme check
[22:05] <PurpZeY> XVampireX: Just ask, every is here to help
[22:05] <Yv12345vY> Xintruder, yes, they've done a great job with that stuff
[22:05] <PurpZeY> everyone*
[22:05] <XVampireX> gyaresu, Wait give me just a sec to ask :P
[22:05] <hotdiggety> jakel1: for eth01?
[22:05] <pike_> okeefenokee: sorry im as unfamiliar with upstart as you
[22:05] <XVampireX> I'm not new here :P
[22:05] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, yes, its a sym link to somewhere, you thinking about running .firefox from the dir, is that what your getting at ?
[22:05] <ikonia> XVampireX: then you should know to ask the question
[22:05] <hotdiggety> jakel1: oops, sorry, should be "eth0"
[22:05] <jakel1> yea....
[22:05] <gyaresu> bam!
[22:05] <XVampireX> It's just an intro :P
[22:05] <PurpZeY> XVampireX: Well, then I hope your question is really stupid so we can all make fun of you...;O
[22:05] <okeefenokee> pike: Is cool - but hotdamn! it's hard to find info on this particular problem!
[22:05] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, well if you type in firefox and it's a symlink to swiftfox then that's why you keep getting swiftfox
[22:05] <ikonia> XVampireX: it's a busy channels, we don't need intro, ask the questions please.
[22:05] <gyaresu> *giggle
[22:06] <hotdiggety> jakel1: 10.0.0.4
[22:06] <XVampireX> Anyway, I'm using a really powerful PC, and I'm trying to make an archive of something about 4.8gb
[22:06] <Eyemean> hello there, im really doing my nut in and im new to linux. trying to get dual screen setup with my radeon 9550 in gutsy, worked fine in 7.04
[22:06] <neverblue> ah, god point
[22:06] <PurpZeY> archive like, compressed?
[22:06] <Rille> When i listen to music, i have a very strenuos sound in the background:( , Why?
[22:06] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, in my .bashrc ?
[22:06] <jakel1> ok.... what is the IP address that your router has hotdiggety
[22:06] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, good luck, I've been trying the same for a looooooooong time
[22:06] <XVampireX> but it's taking way too much even while threading up to 4 threads (4 cores I have, yeah...)
[22:06] <vee_> barbarella yes, at the bottom of the list
[22:06] <hotdiggety> jakel1: 10.0.0.2
[22:06] <deniz_> firestarter says wlan0 is not active...how do i make it active?
[22:06] <ikonia> XVampireX: compression can take time
[22:06] <PurpZeY> !alsa | Rille
[22:06] <ubotu> Rille: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:06] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, no, what's the output of ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[22:06] <jakel1> can u ping it? hotdiggety
[22:06] <gyaresu> XVampireX: lots of small files?
[22:06] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, u got radeon 9550 also?
[22:06] <PurpZeY> I would adjust alsa-mixer before anything else
[22:07] <ikonia> XVampireX: that looks like a question designed to pointless brag about having 4 cores.
[22:07] <vee_> barbarella i gave it a label during install - was that bad?
[22:07] <XVampireX> gyaresu, One large file actually
[22:07] <jakel1> type ping 10.0.0.2 hotdiggety
[22:07] <Xintruder> damn it, why won't dell xps be shipped with ubuntu pre installed....
[22:07] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, no, X600 ATI but same problems
[22:07] <XVampireX> ikonia, No, seriously, it's taking some time...
[22:07] <Rille> Thx
[22:07] <gyaresu> XVampireX: What about with zero compression?
[22:07] <jakel1> Xintruder, cuz u can install it urself
[22:07] <neverblue> exec -o 'ls -l /usr/bin/firefox'
[22:07] <XVampireX> Haven't tried yet
[22:07] <neverblue> sh: ls -l /usr/bin/firefox: not found
[22:07] <Ryuki> Do you know how to manually remove YIM in the menu in xfce I tried to remove it, it still are there.
[22:07] <Ryuki> :|
[22:07] <Jowi> XVampireX, if it is many files that does not compress well, just make a tar ball (without gzip)
[22:07] <neverblue> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2007-12-05 07:54 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
[22:07] <neverblue> there
[22:07] <ikonia> XVampireX: xs's are not shipped with ubuntu installed as part of their hardware does not have native support.
[22:07] <deniz_> any1 here use firestarter?
[22:07] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, did u have it working in 7.04?
[22:07] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: B/C it comes with gfx...;P...That'd be easy...They'd have to support it...ramble ramble ramble.
[22:07] <XVampireX> But even uncompression
[22:07] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, yes, with Xinerama
[22:08] <barbarella> vee_:can you see the drive on the label "Mounted on"
[22:08] <XVampireX> Also over smb transferring that file took 20 minutes
[22:08] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, what's the output of which firefox
[22:08] <XVampireX> Is that normal?
[22:08] <barbarella> vee_:after a df -h
[22:08] <ikonia> XVampireX: it's 4.8 gig, what do you expect
[22:08] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I get about a .6 ms response to the ping
[22:08] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, im tempted to go back to 7.04 just for the dual screen, i cant live without it, hahaha
[22:08] <neverblue> /usr/bin/firefox
[22:08] <PurpZeY> XVampireX: That's a big file dude
[22:08] <Kevin`> jakel1 I still get the impression something is very wrong with hotdiggety's network, from the semi-conflicting information thus far, but since he's not answering i'm getting a bite to eat
[22:08] <vee_> barbarella i can see not the label but i can see that it is mounted /media
[22:08] <neverblue> /usr/bin/swiftfox
[22:08] <jakel1> ok... good.... now try typing ping www.google.com hotdiggety
[22:08] <jakel1> see what you get
[22:09] <gyaresu> XVampireX: Running it from a command line to see the logging output? Maybe dodgy file system can't cope? vfat16 or somehting else dodgy.
[22:09] <Xintruder> can ubuntu make use of vaio cameras that are built in the laptops?
[22:09] <deniz_> does any1 here use FIRESTARTER??
[22:09] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, what about ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[22:09] <barbarella> vee_:so, where is the drive mounted
[22:09] <XVampireX> so having that PC doesn't change the fact that it would take really long time (Maybe just faster by a bit?)
[22:09] <ikonia> XVampireX: depends if the application is designed for multiple cameras
[22:09] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: If it functions like a web-cam Camorama may be able to control it
[22:09] <neverblue> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5256 2007-12-04 03:00 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[22:09] <hotdiggety> kevin: sorry, but still pretty new to this and all the help is absolutely wonderful, but having trouble trying to keep up with everyone
[22:09] <jakel1> Xintruder, not sure if it can or not
[22:09] <okeefenokee> Hmmm...everybody...seems that fooling around with /etc/event.d/tty1 should do the trick...hold yer collective breath, now!
[22:09] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, I hear you man, Google for ATI dual head and you'll get a bunch of hits and suggestions, all for Big Desktop though
[22:09] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Check the forums on that...I'm sure someone else had the same question
[22:09] <Xintruder> hello? am i even connected :/
[22:09] <Ryuki> hey
[22:09] <vee_> barbarella it is mounted on: /media... but i do not see it in the ubuntu desktop (GNOME)
[22:09] <jakel1> hotdiggety, did you ping google.com?
[22:09] <ikonia> XVampireX: the lag is probably your disk being used as a temp file, because your file is so big, so 200 processors wouldn't make a difference
[22:10] <XVampireX> ikonia, using peazip and setting the compression to use 4 threads
[22:10] <vee_> barbarella sorry if i wasnt clear
[22:10] <jakel1> Xintruder, yes u are
[22:10] <Ryuki> My question was unanswered.
[22:10] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, so you have Swiftfox not running and you do alt + f2 and type in firefox and you still get a Swiftfox window??
[22:10] <Ryuki> oh what is the channel for Xubuntu?
[22:10] <hotdiggety> jakel1: get response back from ping on google
[22:10] <ikonia> Ryuki: #xubuntu
[22:10] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, it was because Swiftfox was currently running
[22:10] <jakel1> ok.... that's strange
[22:10] <neverblue> i got it now, thanks
[22:10] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, i tried that and i havent bee able to find anything yet. big desktop will be fine for me
[22:10] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, can you kill Swiftfox and then try running Firefox?
[22:11] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, already did it
[22:11] <jakel1> hotdiggety, that means u r connected to the internet if google.com responds back to ur ping
[22:11] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, any better?
[22:11] <jakel1> try visiting a website hotdiggety see what happens
[22:11] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, allowing me to run both is a start
[22:11] <kenro> Yv12345vY: Well, the decryp is activated, now I hafta re-install oss...
[22:11] <NemesisD> anyone know why a tape drive would show WRT_PROT and would be unwritable (or readable) even though the tape isn't set (physically) to be write protected?
[22:11] <deniz_> any1 have any idea were i can get firestarter "professional" free help bcuz im trying to share an internet connection for months now...
[22:11] <hotdiggety> jakel1: could it not be a setting required on the laptops trying to access the internet via the router?
[22:11] <neverblue> Yv12345vY, thanks
[22:12] <jakel1> hotdiggety, ok.... how many machines are connected right now and how many work?
[22:12] <Yv12345vY> neverblue, ok, just compare and make sure the data is there
[22:12] <jakel1> are they all using linux hotdiggety ?
[22:12] <barbarella> vee_:you can make a symbolic link on your hd for /media
[22:12] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I have no problems with accessing anything via my desktop using ubuntu
[22:12] <fedoracore8__> pc e dei pra atualizar para o 7.10
[22:12] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, I just typed in "gutsy ati dual head" and got a bunch of good stuff
[22:12] <jakel1> oh... ok... so what computers are having problems? and what OS are they running hotdiggety
[22:12] <PurpZeY> Well, if anyone comes back asking about the WebCam built into Vaio's there is long thread in the forums that addresses it...
[22:12] <vee_> barbarella thanx - i'll look it up
[22:12] <hotdiggety> jakel1: nope.....work laptop is running XP SP2 and my wife's laptop is running Vista Home Edition
[22:12] <fedoracore8__> ai ele substituiu todos os arquivos do meu pc pelo 7.10
[22:13] <ikonia> fedoracore8__: english ?
[22:13] <erUSUL> !pt | fedoracore8__
[22:13] <ubotu> fedoracore8__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:13] <fedoracore8__> mas agora ta dando problema de monitor e naum entra
[22:13] <PurpZeY> !es | fedoracore8__
[22:13] <ubotu> fedoracore8__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:13] <Xintruder> back :D
[22:13] <Xintruder> i d/c
[22:13] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, yeah cheers, my mistake was that i was lloking for radeon 9550 in particular, cheers for the hint, much appreciated.
[22:13] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289836&highlight=Vaio+Laptop+webcam
[22:13] <jakel1> hotdiggety, what computers are having problems?
[22:13] <fedoracore8__> o que eu posso fazer to pelo live cd
[22:13] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: not spanish it is portuguese
[22:13] <kenro> Yv12345vY: Think you oss-compat suffices? I'd rather stay with alsa...
[22:13] <Yv12345vY> Eyemean, shouldn't be a big difference
[22:13] <jakel1> ur wife's ? and your works?
[22:13] <Kevin`> hotdiggety what is the outermost device in your network, that was given to you by your isp?
[22:13] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: It seems that at first no one could get it to work, now some people have gotten it to work, although not everyone.
[22:13] <hotdiggety> jakel1: the two laptops trying to access the internet via the router
[22:14] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: "I'm doing my best sir."
[22:14] <Yv12345vY> kenro, sorry man, I have no idea what you're talking about, I think you mean to ask somebody else :-)
[22:14] <jakel1> Kevin' his computer is online... it's two other ones
[22:14] <jakel1> ok... are u at those laptops right now hotdiggety ?
[22:14] <Jowi> hotdiggety, you should ask in a windows channel
[22:14] <Kevin`> jakel1 I know that. this makes no sense though, so I want to know his setup
[22:14] <barbarella> vee_:open a terminal, go to your Desktop (cd Desktop) After that, type ln -s /media media
[22:14] <_mug> are there any "personal" firewalls (like protecting MY files) in linux? i want something, that protects MY files (my USER's data). root/kernal-Firewalls are very good, but linux is more and more used as desktop, and if ther was (and is) ie a browser bug and my USER is owned, the data, that is stored, is compromised. i dont care if the "whole machine" is safe. i caring about my data...
[22:14] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I have my work laptop with me right next to the desktop
[22:14] <jakel1> i bet his work laptop is set to a different DNS or possibly a static ip
[22:14] <erUSUL> PurpZeY: ;) well i'm a native spanish speaker so maybe i over reacted ;)
[22:15] <PurpZeY> !iptables | _mug
[22:15] <ubotu> _mug: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:15] <Eyemean> xv12345vy, trust me it made a big difference m8.
[22:15] <jakel1> ok... go to the command prompt  (start --> run --> type cmd
[22:15] <PurpZeY> erUSUL: I can understand....I only studied spanish, I am lucky I didn't guess it's german
[22:15] <kenro> Yv12345vY: You are the one suggested using Ubuntu documentaion for playing dvd's, correct?
[22:15] <Kevin`> jakel1 that wouldnt be affected by installing linux though
[22:15] <vee_> barbarella thanx
[22:15] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I used to ba able to access the internet via the wireless router when I am running the Windows boot
[22:15] <jakel1> kevin' true... but his linux system is working fine
[22:15] <Yv12345vY> _mug, I'm not sure I completely understand what you're asking but do you know anything about Unix/Linux file permissions?
[22:15] <Yv12345vY> kenro, sure, just forgot, oops
[22:15] <jakel1> Kevin`, it's his PCs that dnt
[22:15] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Let me know if that thread was helpful
[22:16] <ikonia> _mug: a firewall does not protect files.
[22:16] <_-XPERT-_> _mug: You micht consider putting your files encrypted on your system
[22:16] <jakel1> Kevin`, the problems may have nothing to do with him installing linux
[22:16] <Yv12345vY> kenro, unfortunately I don't know what to suggest with oss and alsa, all I can say is try it, works well for me
[22:16] <Xintruder> PurpZeY alright
[22:16] <Xintruder> thanks man
[22:16] <Kevin`> jakel1 do as you will, but I have a suspicion he was running IC
[22:16] <Kevin`> ICS*
[22:16] <_-XPERT-_> _mug: use GPG
[22:16] <jakel1> ok.... well installing linux to one machine should not effect anything on the other machines*
[22:16] <hotdiggety> kevin: ICS?
[22:16] <Rille> I lost my sound:(
[22:16] <jakel1> Kevin' that's what i think too
[22:16] <Kevin`> internet connection sharing
[22:17] <jakel1> Internet connection sharing hotdiggety
[22:17] <hotdiggety> kevin: ahhh...ok
[22:17] <Rille> some swedish people here?
[22:17] <Malachi> What's a more user-friendly program for scanning? XSane scares one of my 'converts.'
[22:17] <kenro> Yv12345vY: And what the bh xscreensaver has to do with it?
[22:17] <Kevin`> anyway, what's the outermost device in your network
[22:17] <Yv12345vY> kenro, not sure
[22:17] <jakel1> probably his modem
[22:17] <Kevin`> the thing that connects to the internet
[22:17] <jakel1> lol
[22:17] <vee_> barbarella if i put another drive on this box... mount it in /media, will i have issssues?
[22:17] <hotdiggety> kevin: what do you mean by outermost device?
[22:17] <u^A> does anybody have booting problem on a p3 box with gutsy?
[22:18] <Xintruder> PurpZeY 15 pages man, i guess it wont be as easy as 'plug and play' >< !
[22:18] <Kevin`> the device that your isp gave you that connects to the phone line or cable
[22:18] <jakel1> ok... hotdiggety who supplies your internet connection?
[22:18] <hotdiggety> it is the ADSL modem
[22:18] <u^A> it failed at detecting hardwares
[22:18] <jakel1> is it a Verizon line?
[22:18] <Kevin`> hotdiggety what devices are directly connected to the adsl modem
[22:18] <_mug> PurpZeY: i know and understand iptables, and im using it. i wonder if there is sth more like "pocess XY is trying to establish a connection to AB, do you want that (just now, never, not now..)"
[22:18] <hotdiggety> jakel1: the local telephony provider in South Africa
[22:18] <jakel1> oh south africa
[22:18] <jakel1> wow
[22:18] <jakel1> ok...
[22:18] <hotdiggety> kevin: only the switch
[22:18] <jakel1> ummm... didn't realize they had computers
[22:18] <Kevin`> hotdiggety normal ethernet switch?
[22:18] <jakel1> hotdiggety, well... u need a router
[22:18] <hotdiggety> jakel1: LOL
[22:19] <Malachi> jakel1: Really?
[22:19] <barbarella> vee_:you have to ask somebody about auto mounting issues
[22:19] <jakel1> Malachi, i'm kidding
[22:19] <Kevin`> jakel1 no assumptions
[22:19] <Kevin`> he might not need a router
[22:19] <hotdiggety> kevin: SMC Workgroup 24 port switch
[22:19] <vee_> barbarella thanx for your help
[22:19] <Malachi> jakel1: The founder of Ubuntu...oh. You're joking.
[22:19] <jakel1> Malachi, i know... it was a joke.... makes me look american
[22:19] <Kevin`> hotdiggety ok, what's plugged into the switch besides the modem
[22:20] <hotdiggety> jakel1: the ADSL modem is a 4-port wireless router built into the modem
[22:20] <jakel1> i wonder if the modem is a modem/router Kevin`
[22:20] <jakel1> yea figured that
[22:20] <amorphous_> where do i find out what kernels are installed on my machine? ei) i want to boot up the install before gutsy
[22:20] <ikonia> amorphous_: boot the install before gutsy ?
[22:20] <jakel1> and the laptops work when plugged in to the switch?
[22:20] <jakel1> hotdiggety,
[22:20] <Xintruder> PurpZeY http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4041383 heres the solution mate !
[22:20] <hotdiggety> kevin: this desktop and a secondary desktop which I am still in the process of rebuilding
[22:20] <barbarella> amorphous_:dpkg -l
[22:21] <Yv12345vY> amorphous_, ls /boot ?
[22:21] <Skiessl> why Totem has so crappy visualizations?
[22:21] <Kevin`> Skiessi is that a useful question?
[22:21] <Voyage_> any one kind enough to guide me how to use my tv tuner. (alpha tv card) ?
[22:21] <Skiessi> no
[22:21] <Xintruder> guys, is there no check box of programs i awnt installed during the installation or something? i have no xchat and things like that!
[22:21] <kenro> Yv12345vY: Using ogle, failure because xscreensaver not running, and oss not installed. VLCplayer crashes after reading several css keys, with this statement: libdvdnav: ifoRead_VOBU_ADMAP vtsi failed - CRASHING
[22:21] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I have not tried a direct connection of the laptops into the switch...let me try that quickly
[22:21] <jakel1> ok
[22:21] <_mug> Skiessi: totem is overrated *duckandcover*
[22:21] <_mug> :)
[22:21] <ikonia> Xintruder: thats installed post install
[22:22]  * jakel1 ducks and covers
[22:22] <Yv12345vY> !libcss
[22:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libcss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:22] <barbarella> amorphous_:dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[22:22] <Xintruder> ikonia, excuse me ?>
[22:22] <PurpZeY> !codec
[22:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:22] <erUSUL> Xintruder: xchat is no longer a "required package" pidgin is the default irc client
[22:22] <ikonia> Xintruder: xchat is installed post install
[22:22] <ikonia> erUSUL: xchat has never been installed at install
[22:22] <Yv12345vY> kenro,  did you see this stuff?
[22:23] <murf3326> quick bash question for someone.... I'm trying to write a little script to run all my deskapps in one shot, however, just potting in the directory/name of the individual apps is not working... as it runs the first one then waits for it to exit before running the next.  Is there a bash command to have it run the app and move on to th next without waiting for the first to exit?
[22:23] <Yv12345vY> !codec > kenro
[22:23] <jakel1> kevin' i think it may be a wireless issue
[22:23] <ikonia> murf3326: join #bash
[22:23] <Xintruder> well, i meant that as an example, i mean lots of programs and packagaes like i think redhat used to do in the past?!?!
[22:23] <Kevin`> jakel1 same, although I don't see how it would be related to what he did
[22:23] <jakel1> kevin' maybe wireless is off or something on the router
[22:23] <jakel1> i dnt think it is at all Kevin`
[22:23] <Yv12345vY> murf3326, append & to the end or go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions and do it via a GUI
[22:23] <ikonia> Xintruder: ubuntu installs the base, you install what you want after
[22:23] <jakel1> i dnt know if he knows
[22:23] <Skiessi> if there would be something like winamp's AVS, overall image of Ubuntu would be better
[22:23] <kenro> _mug: All of GNOME is overrated. (stands tall and resolute in his support of KDE... and gets flame-itined)
[22:23] <murf3326> ikonia: Thanks, sorry should have looked for a bash channel first.  :)
[22:24] <Kevin`> kenro gnome and kde are overrated, use twm =p
[22:24] <Xintruder> ikonia, so there is no checkboxes of program names or something right?
[22:24] <murf3326> Yv12345vY: Thanks, I'll give that a shot... is that an & at the end of each command?
[22:24] <jakel1> kenro_ all GUIs have their place, you wont get flamed by me for using KDE
[22:24] <ikonia> Xintruder: not that I'm aware of, for mass deployment I've used kickstart files.
[22:24] <erUSUL> ikonia: you may be right i only installed ubuntu twice since i use it (warty beta) ;)
[22:24] <Yv12345vY> murf3326, yes &, it makes the command run in the background
[22:24] <jakel1> hotdiggety, did plugging it in work?
[22:25] <NoFlag> hey, is it possible to install ubuntu without writng a CD
[22:25] <NoFlag> ?
[22:25] <murf3326> Yv12345vY: thanks again... off to give it a shot.
[22:25] <ompaul> !install NoFlag
[22:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install noflag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:25] <ikonia> NoFlag: not really as the install media is cd
[22:25] <_mug> kenro: this is an ancient religious matter :P
[22:25] <ompaul> !install |  NoFlag
[22:25] <ubotu> NoFlag: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:25] <Kevin`> NoFlag you can use usb or netboot I believe
[22:25] <NoFlag> ompaul,  thanks you
[22:25] <ikonia> NoFlag: there are more advanced methods but they involve install servers basiclly.
[22:25] <highrelygu1> Trying to change SATA driver on 7.10 - anyone done this?
[22:25] <codename> I need help installing Flash, I did and it still say I need to install it, any ideas?
[22:26] <ikonia> highrelygu1: trying to change them ?
[22:26] <NoFlag> Kevin`, well i ment -  i heard of installing ubuntu even without rebooting computer
[22:26] <Voyage_> any one kind enough to guide me how to use my tv tuner. (alpha tv card) ?
[22:26] <hotdiggety> jakel1: I have connected the laptop directly into the switch and IM connects, but still no internet connectivity, very strange
[22:26] <jakel1> codename: is this 7.10
[22:26] <codename> Yep.
[22:26] <Yv12345vY> codename, did you restart the browser?
[22:26] <codename> Yep.
[22:26] <Kevin`> NoFlag if your running windows currently there's an installer available for that
[22:26] <_mug> codename: use the adobe installer from adobe.com its a bug
[22:26] <codename> I closed it
[22:26] <Xintruder> how on earth do I go after different program packages downloads I am not aware of, without it telling me what it offers?!?
[22:26] <ikonia> NoFlag: that is via a nonsupported, non-ubuntu based method
[22:26] <jakel1> i did this yesterday codename
[22:26] <codename> and reopened it
[22:26] <highrelygu1> Yes, have a new driver from Silicon image that supports PMS'!
[22:26] <jakel1> hld on a sec
[22:26] <Sier> OMG
[22:26] <codename> so i go to adobe.com
[22:26] <kenro> _mug: Are we quite outgrown it by now, you think? :)
[22:26] <codename> and install it
[22:26] <ompaul> !flash | codename
[22:26] <ubotu> codename: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: use synaptic, it will tell you what it offers
[22:26] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:26] <barbarella> Voyage_:what does dmesg say about your tv card?
[22:26] <Xintruder> !synaptic
[22:26] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[22:26] <_mug> codename: get the .tar.gz, extract (tar xvfz file.tar.gz) and run the installer
[22:27] <Yv12345vY> codename, Adobe Flash plugin installation is currently broken, see « /msg ubotu flash »
[22:27] <Xintruder> ikonia, is that installed by default?
[22:27] <_mug> codename: and close any browser BEFORE that
[22:27] <alvint> codename: did you install through synaptic or the browser interface
[22:27] <codename> thanks
[22:27] <codename> ya
[22:27] <steven__> i need a program to burn CDs that supports a lot of image types.. anyone know one?
[22:27] <Triplenin> Hi all, I'm tryin to run the demo on a bootable dvd. The installation stuck when it say : loading or booting the kernel, just after decompressing it. Anybody know what I should do?
[22:27] <jakel1> codename: uninstall it using synaptic
[22:27] <alsadk10> is there a dvb prog easy to install for begineer
[22:27] <alvint> flash works here
[22:27] <ikonia> Xintruder: yes, that is the default package manager/installer
[22:27] <Kevin`> NoFlag install from linux can be done with debootstrap I believe (in debian at least, I haven't tried ubuntu), often used for systems without a normal boot device like embedded
[22:27] <Nostahl> what is betteer in linux / nvidia gforce fx 5200 256 megs of ram/ ati allinwonder 9600xt 128 megs ram
[22:27] <Xintruder> ikonia, thank you.
[22:27] <matthew_> hi, i have flashplugin-nonfree installed, but flash is still not working for me.  what do i do
[22:27] <ikonia> alvint: new installs won't work
[22:28] <jakel1> alvint: i found a few ppl with this flash issue
[22:28] <jakel1> i figured out how to fix it
[22:28] <ikonia> matthew_: the flash package is currently broke, please be patient while it is fixed
[22:28] <_-XPERT-_> steven__: k3b
[22:28] <_mug> Nostahl: just my opinion: use nvidia for linux.
[22:28] <jakel1> codename, let me know when u completely removed it
[22:28] <kenro> Kevin`: For me, gotta be KDE. With fluxbox as backup. I tried RISC on X with fluxbox base and loved it. Used to, at least. They should've quit while they were ahead.
[22:28] <codename> whats the package name?
[22:28] <Nostahl> what reasons mug
[22:28] <alvint> jakel1: what was the problem and how did you fix?
[22:28] <jakel1> flashplugin-nonfree
[22:28] <jakel1> i think
[22:28] <zubat> Nostahl: nvidia tend to have better surport and drivers even though ati drivers are improving i recomend ati
[22:29] <_mug> matthew_: scroll up a few lines and do what i said to "codename"
[22:29] <zubat> Nostahl: i mean nvida no ati!
[22:29] <matthew_> _mug: i wasn't in th channel at the time
[22:29] <jakel1> alvint: i dunno really know what caused the problem, but it seems that for some reason or another the flash thing does not work with certain setups
[22:29] <Nostahl> what things do i need to do to swich to my nvidia card
[22:29] <jakel1> but adobe flash plugin does
[22:29] <jakel1> codename, did you find it?
[22:29] <highrelygu1> WOuld anyone like to get the new SATA driver from Silicon Image that suppoerts Port Multipliers?
[22:30] <Arelis> Where are my GNOME memo's stored? The ones i make with the memo applet?
[22:30] <Voyage_> barbarella - http://pastebin.com/m73f66d77
[22:30] <kenro> Kevin`:  ROXbox was once a great desktop. Lin(spire) should've taken notes...
[22:30] <alvint> jakel1: I c
[22:30] <zubat> Nostahl: try uninstallating any previous drivers then installing the card then use envy to install the latest nvida drivers
[22:30] <_mug> matthew_: ic: go to adobe.com, get the linux-flashplayer, extract it (tar.gz) and run the installer, and close all browser before that
[22:30] <Kevin`> linspire is one I have never used
[22:30] <_mug> couldn't someone set up a !flash command for this issue?
[22:30] <_mug> :)
[22:31] <jakel1> i used freespire... it supports more wireless cards out of the box than ubuntu
[22:31] <highrelygu1> Can anyone help?  Why doesn't 7.10 accept changes with depmod?
[22:31] <jakel1> codename, did u uninistall it
[22:31] <barbarella> Voyage_:you have a saa7134
[22:32] <jakel1> :-\
[22:32] <barbarella> Voyage_:have you got tvtime installed?
[22:32] <jakel1> codename: u still there?
[22:32] <rathel> I'm trying to write a script that converts a bunch of mpgs to xvid avi, I am kind of new and I don't know where I went wrong. http://pastebin.com/d60bd54
[22:33] <jakel1> rathel u using mencoder?
[22:33] <highrelygu1> Jakel1 - is there a way to chat with you directly?
[22:33] <Triplenin> Hi all, I'm tryin to run the demo on a bootable dvd. The installation stuck when it say : loading or booting the kernel, just after decompressing it. Anybody know what I should do?
[22:33] <rathel> Jakal, Yes.
[22:33] <jakel1> yea /msg <nick>
[22:33] <jagggy> whos the bot ?
[22:33] <shadowbw> does anyone have much experience with booting from USB
[22:33] <kenro> Oh btw Is KDE4 ready yet? My lappy won't blow up is I install all those pkg warning me of binary incompat?
[22:33] <codename> ya'
[22:33] <jakel1> highrelygu1, /msg jakel1
[22:33] <shadowbw> not necessarily Ubuntu
[22:34] <jakel1> kenro: i  dnt trust kde4 yet
[22:34] <shadowbw> my question about booting from usb is.....do most modern computers support this feature
[22:34] <_mug> shadowbw: yap
[22:34] <markd> shadowbw: I believe so. pretty common.
[22:34] <Voyage_> barbarella yes. i have tvtime
[22:34] <shadowbw> any idea if it is a standard now......and if so, how long ago would you suspect it's been around
[22:35] <kenro> Jakel1 how d'you spell this, anyway?
[22:35] <rathel> jakel1, lol tabbed to the wrong name, sorry and yes.
[22:35] <_mug> shadowbw: guess: every mainboard since 4 years
[22:35] <_mug> ago
[22:35] <markd> shadowbw: My desktop from ~5 years supports it. beyond that don't really know.
[22:35] <shadowbw> markd: thanks
[22:35] <highrelygu1> jakel1 - no I mean anyway I can just see your posts only?
[22:35] <Rille> how i reset all to defualt in sound options?
[22:35] <barbarella> shadowbw:on my asus mb, i can hit F8 for a boot menu, very handy
[22:35] <jakel1> wat rathel?
[22:36] <markd> Oh and it is an asus mb.
[22:36] <rathel> jakel1,  You asked if I was using mencoder.
[22:36] <shadowbw> markd: I'm looking at booting with BackTrack2, and I didn't want to waste my time and money getting a thumb drive and finding that only really new computers support the feature
[22:36] <jakel1> oh
[22:36] <jakel1> yea srry
[22:36] <Voyage_> barbarella yes. i have tvtime. what now?
[22:36] <kenro> Jakel1 Whoever this name belongs too, are you noting?
[22:36] <barbarella> Voyage_:and you have no signal?
[22:36] <jakel1> whose name?
[22:36] <kenro> yours
[22:36] <Voyage_> barbarella i just ran tvtime. nothing appeared.
[22:36] <jakel1> it belongs to me
[22:36] <peepsalot> my sis wants to know if there are any programs that allow free sending and receiving of faxes from a computer?
[22:37] <Malik_> hey u guys an u help me out iam thinking on installing linux
[22:37] <Voyage_> barbarella i have cable tv
[22:37] <Malik_> can some1 help me out
[22:37] <barbarella> Voyage_:and you have no signal?
[22:37] <Triplenin> I'm tryin to run the demo on a bootable dvd. The installation stuck when it say : loading or booting the kernel, just after decompressing it. Anybody know what I should do?
[22:37] <barbarella> Voyage_:and you have no signal?
[22:37] <kenro> I can't get it to enter correctly, so you'll just hafta watch for it.
[22:37] <barbarella> Voyage_:sory about that
[22:37] <jakel1> highrelygu1, why u need to prvt chat?
[22:37] <kenro> OK?
[22:37] <Malik_> i hav this perfect old computer that would be perfect for installing linux..
[22:37] <Malik_> byt
[22:37] <Malik_> but*
[22:37] <jakel1> kenro: what do u mean who does it belong to?
[22:37] <_mug> Triplenin: the ubuntu installcd or what?
[22:37] <Malik_> it has some batery problem
[22:37] <snurre> I have a raid array with two drives, and one separate drive which im planning on installing ubuntu on.. but when i launch with a livecd, it only shows the array as two unpartitioned drives and no array volume.. anyone know how to deal with this?
[22:38] <hotdiggety> jakel1: & Kevin: thank you for the assistance. I decided to look at the configuration of the router and removed the WPA security settings to None....and all the notebooks now have access to the net
[22:38] <jakel1> it's registered to me last i checked
[22:38] <highrelygu1> jake1 - just so I can ignore all this other stuff.
[22:38] <kenro> I can't get it to enter correctly, OK?
[22:38] <Triplenin> mug : the demo cd
[22:38] <Malik_> like xp works or it and then after a while the computer freezes
[22:38] <jakel1> oh
[22:38] <Triplenin> I have burn the iso on a dvd
[22:38] <barbarella> Voyage_:can you install mplayer
[22:38] <Voyage_> barbarella sorry about what?
[22:38] <Triplenin> maybe it's the problem?
[22:38] <Malik_> and i can;t start up some times either
[22:38] <xobius> Malik_, what's your problem?
[22:38] <_mug> snurre: youll have to break the array
[22:38] <Xintruder> can a program vb.NET in a linux environment, specifically ubuntu?
[22:38] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | snurre
[22:38] <ubotu> snurre: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:38] <barbarella> Voyage_:enter whas hanging
[22:38] <jakel1> lol.... ummm.. highrelygu1 u using xchat?
[22:38] <Malik_> i wanan install linux but the computer isn;t working
[22:39] <erUSUL> snurre: look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:39] <Malik_> its a perfect old computer i can use for linux
[22:39] <Malik_> 512mb ram
[22:39] <Malik_> and 20 gb hd
[22:39] <Voyage_> barbarella i already have mplayer
[22:39] <snurre> _mug: hm, not an option.. 2x 1tb drives in raid-0 and almost completely full :p
[22:39] <nomic> does anyone know if they'vefixed the 'aticonfig' command which core dumps  , anywhere?
[22:39] <Malik_> but rite not it has xp on it
[22:39] <pholocs> does anyone have much experience with wpa_supplicant, wpa2, and static ip ? :o
[22:39] <Malik_> and has some stupid battery problem
[22:39] <Triplenin> mug: this : http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[22:39] <Xintruder> can a program vb.NET in a linux environment, specifically ubuntu?
[22:39] <snurre> erUSUL: thanks
[22:39] <codename> is it self extracting?
[22:39] <Voyage_> barbarella what do you want me to enter
[22:39] <PurpZeY> Malik_: 512? You installing from the alternate CD?
[22:39] <Malik_> 512 ram
[22:39] <jakel1> highrelygu1, are u using Xchat?
[22:39] <xobius> Malik_, could you be more specific?
[22:39] <Malik_> yea iam gunan install it but thats not the thing
[22:40] <highrelygu1> Need to replace sata_sil24.ko in 7.10 on boot - no docs work - files not there - any ideas?
[22:40] <erUSUL> Xintruder: dunno what is the state of the vb compiler for mono but check it out
[22:40] <codename> I downloaded it, what do I do now?
[22:40] <XVampireX> !mono | Xintruder
[22:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:40] <XVampireX> err
[22:40] <Malik_> the problem is thats that computer kepps freezing
[22:40] <Malik_> and it doesn't turn on
[22:40] <XVampireX> !info mono | Xintruder
[22:40] <jakel1> downloaded what codename?
[22:40] <highrelygu1> jake1 - using pigeon
[22:40] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Did you finish installing?
[22:40] <Malik_> i heard it jus needs a replacment of battery?
[22:40] <XVampireX> Okey, weird
[22:40] <ubotu> xintruder: mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-6ubuntu6.1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[22:40] <codename> FLash
[22:40] <_mug> Triplenin: without more info i guess you've got some incompatible or not recognized hardware..
[22:40] <kenro> Or maybe I'll just call you Jake, wether or not that's your name. Jake, I installed several 4:3.98.0 kde pkg and now I have most of my desktop listed as obselete. Options are pick through and de-install, go ahead with the kde4, or deal with the wait.
[22:40] <Malik_> it has xp on it rite now a fresh copy
[22:40] <Voyage_>  i wanted a v good dl manager that has resume support and mirror finding options too. (auto) any suggestions ?
[22:40] <codename> I need to uninstall it or something i hear
[22:40] <Malik_> it works soem times
[22:40] <_mug> codename: works?
[22:40] <jakel1> codename which did you download?
[22:40] <jakel1> what website?
[22:40] <Malik_> ppl r sayin its a battery problem
[22:40] <init6> I tried "apt-get install postgresql" from https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/postgresql.html but I get "E: Package postgresql has no installation candidate".
[22:41] <erUSUL> Xintruder: http://www.mono-project.com/VisualBasic.NET_support
[22:41] <codename> I did it through Synaptic first
[22:41] <barbarella> Voyage_:apt-get install mplayer
[22:41] <codename> it didn't work
[22:41] <PurpZeY> Malik_: How is this an Ubuntu issue?
[22:41] <Voyage_> barbarella i have mplayer...
[22:41] <codename> now they told me to go on adobe
[22:41] <codename> and try that
[22:41] <Malik_> cause i wanan put ubuntu on that computer
[22:41] <barbarella> Voyage_:or tvtime-scanner
[22:41] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Have you tried?
[22:41] <jakel1> did u get my private chat codename?
[22:41] <codename> yep
[22:41] <Malik_> iam gunna but iam afraid it might not work there
[22:41] <Xintruder> thanks guys. before i open the link ill take the answer: Yes you can program vb.net in ubuntu! :D
[22:41] <codename> i responded
[22:41] <kenro> Whatchya think, big Jake?
[22:41] <jakel1> chat in there
[22:41] <Voyage_> barbarella i have mplayer and tvtime ...     do you want me to install tvtime scanner too?
[22:41] <_mug> codename: uninstall the flash package THEN use the adobe installer
[22:41] <toni_> uhm
[22:41] <codename> k
[22:42] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Battery failures are cross platform
[22:42] <jakel1> easier to explain the steps there
[22:42] <Triplenin> mug: pk5, core2duo, gforce 7950, ddr2-800hz, hd westerdigital, onboard lan, sound.
[22:42] <toni_> which is the class for all windows in gnome?
[22:42] <shadowbw> markd: FYI, it became common around 2001 for motherboards to support USB booting
[22:42] <Malik_> cross pplatform?
[22:42] <codename> what's the package name?
[22:42] <Malik_> liek the problem is the computer doesn't load the os
[22:42] <Malik_> and ppl r tellin me its a battery problem
[22:42] <markd> shadowbw: cool, good to know.
[22:42] <barbarella> Voyage_:just run  tvtime-scanner in a terminal, it takes a time to scan
[22:42] <Malik_> cause it works sometimes
[22:42] <Malik_> and some times doesn't
[22:42] <jakel1> codename: u downloaded adobe's flash right?
[22:43] <_mug> Triplenin: why dapper? is there a resaon why you dont use 7.10 (gutsy) ubuntu?
[22:43] <Voyage_> barbarella - Reading configuration from /home/loguser1/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[22:43] <Voyage_> Scanning using TV standard PAL-N.
[22:43] <Voyage_> videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: Invalid argument
[22:43] <Voyage_> videoinput: Driver refuses to set norm: Invalid argument
[22:43] <Voyage_>     No tuner found on input 0.  If you have a tuner, please
[22:43] <Voyage_>     select a different input using --input=<num>.
[22:43] <zubat> I have herd that vmware has experimental 3d acceleration, does this mean guild wars could be playable on vmware any time soon?
[22:43] <Triplenin> I want to try linux before installing it.
[22:43] <kenro> Hey Jake with the impossible username...
[22:43] <Malachi> Triplenin: Go to ubuntu.com and download and burn the CD.
[22:43] <jakel1> kenro: how is my username impossible?
[22:43] <barbarella> Voyage_:if that  doesn't work, then i will give you a command with mplayer.
[22:44] <Larose> If I want to load a module at boot time, is it preferable to add it into /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d ?
[22:44] <Triplenin> But, there is no live demo for 7.10
[22:44] <Malachi> Triplenin: You can reboot your computer with the CD installed, and you don't have to install anything.
[22:44] <kenro> I can't get xchat to tabcomplete it.
[22:44] <codename> any ideas :(
[22:44] <Malachi> Triplenin: Yes, there is.
[22:44] <Triplenin> danm
[22:44] <hotdiggety> jakel1: thank you
[22:44] <Triplenin> if I knew....
[22:44] <hotdiggety> kevin: thank you
[22:44] <barbarella> Voyage_:ok
[22:44] <Triplenin> Well then ok, I will donwload the new 7.1 and burn it and try it.
[22:44] <jakel1> kenro i can autocomplete it
[22:44] <barbarella> Voyage_:a sec
[22:44] <kenro> j
[22:44] <Triplenin> Ok thanks, I'll be back later maybe
[22:44] <kenro> a
[22:44] <kenro> k
[22:44] <kenro> e
[22:44] <jakel1> codename: u still there?
[22:45] <Xintruder> can i share files accross multiple ubuntu computers over a network? Is it a simple as (workgroup + my network neighborhood)???
[22:45] <kenro> l
[22:45] <kenro> 1
[22:45] <codename> yep
[22:45] <FrosTirc> DCC SEND *^()^(^&(FS^&(G&S(G
[22:45] <hotdiggety> exit
[22:45] <highrelygu1> Help me help ubuntu LINUX community by helping me install a new loadable kernel module at boot time.
[22:45] <kenro> Is that your name, Jake?
[22:45] <Malik_> where can i find a list of thign that can't run on linux but can on xp
[22:45] <jakel1> did u download the Adobe version of Flash? what website did you use codename
[22:45] <FAQ23> hi all
[22:45] <zubat> Xintruder: as simple as right clicking the folder and enabling share
[22:45] <jakel1> kenro yes it is
[22:45] <codename> adobe.com
[22:46] <jayrod> simple question: Does Ubuntu allow the option to choose what packages to install ? Or must you first install and then remove what you don't need after? Essentially, I'm trying to build a very minimal box.
[22:46] <Xintruder> zubat, excellent. And then how do others access the shared file?
[22:46] <highrelygu1> Will someone PM me please.
[22:46] <jakel1> ok... well which file did you download? there are quiet a few
[22:46] <_mug> highrelygu1: put it in /etc/modules
[22:46] <kenro> jay aye kay eee ell one
[22:46] <PriceChild> !guidelines > kenade (see the pm from ubotu)
[22:46] <liorv_> Thanks for your help Jowi!!!
[22:46] <PriceChild> gah
[22:46] <PriceChild> !guidelines > kenro  (see the pm from ubotu)
[22:46] <PurpZeY> jayrod: Certain packages come pre-installed. But there are minimum installs
[22:46] <jakel1> codename: what is the name of the file you downloaded?
[22:46] <zubat> Xintruder: are you planning on shareing with windows users?
[22:46] <highrelygu1> _mug - first thing I did didn't work - note there was already nothing there.
[22:47] <jayrod> PurpZeY: is that a separate ISO? or can i do it through the Desktop ISO?
[22:47] <amorphous_> ok gents... i tried loads to sort this out, and thanks for suggestions so far, but I cant seem to find out how to put the initrd.img-2.6.20-16 kernel in lilo
[22:47] <Xintruder> zubat, for starters yes. but in the run i will hopefully switch all to ubuntu
[22:47] <panoman> how do I get BCM4306 ti wirj
[22:47] <MGalaxy> I have problem with KlamAV AutoScan, + I was not able to install "dazuko", any solution? Kernel: 2.6.22-14
[22:47] <jakel1> kenro: we have established that is indeed my handle
[22:47] <panoman> to work
[22:47] <Malachi> panoman: To work?
[22:47] <amorphous_> can anyone help or point me at a decent tutorial?
[22:47] <kenro> PriceChild: What of it? Most don't like to go there. I dunno, maybe an invasion of their privacy.
[22:47] <panoman> yes
[22:47] <_mug> highrelygu1: does it work if you modprobe it?
[22:47] <Malachi> panoman: What is BCM4306?
[22:47] <barbarella> Voyage_:do you know your tv frequenties from your country?
[22:47] <starkmjolk> eavnin
[22:47] <jakel1> codename: what file did you download, i cnt help u unless u respond
[22:47] <PriceChild> kenro, just suggesting you read the guidelines.
[22:48] <codename> install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[22:48] <highrelygu1> Yes, I can install in at runtime with modprobe but can not get the old driver out of the way at boottime.
[22:48] <Voyage_> barbarella no..
[22:48] <zubat> Xintruder: okay well use smb sharing for that then just simply go to run in windows and do \\[your network ip]
[22:48] <_mug> codename: did you extract it an ran the installer?
[22:48] <panoman> wifi broadcom  HP pavilion ze500
[22:48] <panoman> ze5500
[22:48] <codename> it didn't have an installer
[22:48] <codename> :(
[22:48] <jakel1> codename, ok u need to extract the file extract it to your desktop
[22:48] <Arelis> WHAT THE.. guys, all of the sudden my panels went crazy, kept reappearing and disappearing, and now i have no panel anymore.. not even when i run gnome-panel.
[22:48] <Malik_> where can i find a list of programs that work with windows but not linux
[22:48] <notgod> hello. is there a package to install the vmware tools in ubuntu? I am running ubuntu in vmware, and I installed vmware-server-kernel-modules -- but it still seems to complain that the tools are not installed.
[22:48] <amorphous_> is there any way to undo the gutsy upgrade??
[22:48] <Xintruder> zubat, my network ip??? U mean my router (gateway) ip?
[22:49] <codename> ok i did
[22:49] <jakel1> it should have a file in it called libflashplayer.so
[22:49] <highrelygu1> _mug can you PM me?
[22:49] <jakel1> right?
[22:49] <fbc> From the moment the grub loader disappears I get a black screen until the login screen shows up. Could someone help me fix my initial video mode so that it does not happen?
[22:49] <kenro> Oh hang it, I'm sure by now you KNOW I'm addressing you. Think KDE4 handles css better?
[22:49] <jakel1> codename: does it have libflashplayer.so in the folder?
[22:49] <panoman> I am trying to get my wifi working
[22:49] <zubat> Xintruder:as in the  ip adress of the computer that is sharing the file or you can do \\[your computer name]
[22:49] <_mug> highrelygu1: did it minutes ago :)
[22:49] <codename> ya
[22:50] <starkmjolk> I'm evaluating ubuntu server to replace freebsd on a proliant 8000, but the install won't post stalling with a "Bad EIP value", anyone has a clue what might cause this?
[22:50] <highrelygu1> Hmmm me try you.
[22:50] <jakel1> ok... dnt do anything with that file yet codename
[22:50] <Xintruder> zubat, good stuff. I do not need anything installed on the windows computers?
[22:50] <codename> it worked
[22:50] <codename> thanks!!!
[22:50] <codename> :)
[22:50] <Malachi> panoman: Please hold.
[22:50] <jakel1> codename: go to a terminal type sudo nautilus /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[22:50] <juan> how do i copy my /home/name do  i need to be root to copy it or should it be dont as a normal user?
[22:50] <highrelygu1> _Mug just tried PMing you.
[22:50] <kenro> Or maybe you don't...
[22:50] <panoman> ok holding
[22:51] <juan> do i need a special option other than cp -r to avoid running into problems
[22:51] <chuck_> when is the next ubuntu release coming out?
[22:51] <juan> 7.04
[22:51] <jakel1> panoman: what kind of wireless card u have?
[22:51] <zubat> Xintruder, no it should work but it might ask for a password in that case you must do smbpasswd -a <username>
[22:51] <PurpZeY> chuck_: Apr 08
[22:51] <fbc> Does anyone know how to change the initial video mode?
[22:51] <IdleOne> !hardy | chuck_
[22:51] <ubotu> chuck_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:51] <Xintruder> zubat, thanks man.
[22:51] <zubat> Xintruder, no prob
[22:51] <highrelygu1> haven't used IRC for about 15 years - forgot everything.
[22:51] <panoman> broadcom internal BCM4306
[22:51] <Arelis> WHAT THE.. guys, all of the sudden my panels went crazy, kept reappearing and disappearing, and now i have no panel anymore.. not even when i run gnome-panel.
[22:51] <Malachi> panoman: You'll need the windows driver in order for this to work.
[22:51] <highrelygu1> _mug - I'm using pigeon.
[22:51] <Malachi> panoman: I can lead you through the instructions if you wish.
[22:52] <_mug> highrelygu1: mhrm maybe this xchat-gnome is odd.. felt weird the moment i started it..
[22:52] <Voyage_> barbarella dont know about frequency
[22:52] <PurpZeY> Those cards are finnicky
[22:52] <IdleOne> Arelis: what did you install or uninstall before this started happening?
[22:52] <jakel1> Malachi, you giving him the ndiswrapper way?
[22:52] <Arelis> IdleOne: Nothing. I just.. clicked a youtube video
[22:52] <fbc> ne1?
[22:52] <yugiohjcj> Hi, where is the 'madwifi-source' package please? (Ubuntu, 7.10, Gutsy)
[22:52] <Malachi> jakel1: Yes. Should I not be?
[22:52] <PurpZeY> If it's an acer you need acpis as well
[22:52] <julian__> hi, i am running compiz fusion on my laptop with an x1300 mobility radeon. when i do an effect in it it runs slow and the 3d box is to slow to bare. i am wondering does if the x1300 is this slow for any one else or is possible my driver
[22:52] <_mug> highrelygu1: ok.. use a real IRc-client. multiprotocoll-client-irc-chatting is for .. whatever :)
[22:52] <NotSoSuperMario> hey, anyone have a recommendation as to which IRC daemon I should use to start a server?
[22:53] <jakel1> Malachi, no i was jst wondering... i was gonna tell him that too... i'm glad u r too... i haven't used ndiswrapper in a very long time
[22:53] <NotSoSuperMario> it doesn't have to handle massive traffic, it's just for internal communications
[22:53] <Malachi> jakel1: Ah. Got you.
[22:53] <chuck_> is compiz-fusion in ubuntu's repositories yet?
[22:53] <Malachi> panoman: Still alive?
[22:53] <jakel1> so i'll let you do it
[22:53] <highrelygu1> Suggestion for windows client?
[22:53] <toni_> julian__, i have the same card
[22:53] <kenro> PriceChild: I appoligize if I sounded rude with whatzisname. For some reason I can't get jakel1 to hilite.
[22:53] <EADG> fbc: I had the same problem. Gutsy disables the frame buffer by default. There is a fix however. www.ubuntu-forums.org search for "vesafb gutsy" look at the third post.
[22:53] <jakel1> people type slow on IRC
[22:53] <julian__> toni is it slow or no
[22:53] <_mug> chuck_: is there a diffenrcen between compiz and fusion?
[22:53] <toni_> not for me
[22:53] <jakel1> kenro: cuz i'm a 1337 h4x0r
[22:53] <fbc> EADG: thanx will do.
[22:53] <julian__> what driver do you use toni
[22:53] <RoBz18> ed_
[22:53] <IdleOne> NotSoSuperMario: Unreal ircd is good. google for ircd see what you like
[22:53] <toni_> julian__,  query me :)
[22:53] <julian__> ok
[22:53] <stunatra> Does anyone know the command to install the Fluxbox desktop environment?
[22:54] <barbarella> Voyage_:try this to start with, mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480  tv://
[22:54] <NotSoSuperMario> IdleOne: Unreal it is. thanks!
[22:54] <RoBz18> ed_
[22:54] <IdleOne> !fluxbox | stunatra
[22:54] <ubotu> stunatra: fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[22:54] <bajun> Hello. can somebody help me install a printer? Details in this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656394
[22:54] <jakel1> i dnt think Fluxbox is in the repo
[22:54] <jakel1> !printer
[22:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[22:54] <barbarella> Voyage_:does this give you something
[22:54] <ed_> hey everyone, its my first time ever using any type of linux, was just wondering does any body have any recommendations on learning how to use linux cos im completely lost haha
[22:54] <kenro> Well at least you pay attention, even if you no longer wish to help me. :/
[22:55] <jakel1> i forget your problem kenro... u started talking about my username for so lomng
[22:55] <Voyage_> barbarella something.. what?
[22:55] <IdleOne> ed_: first step: install ( you did that next step play around with it see what it can do ask in here if you get blocked :) welcome to ubuntu
[22:55] <highrelygu1> _mug - any ideas for a "real" IRC client for Windows?
[22:55] <julian__> how do i query you i am new to irc
[22:55] <julian__> toni
[22:55] <bajun> this is not simply CUPS problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656394
[22:55] <toni_> julian__, i am using driver from ati.com , the 8.44.3
[22:55] <jakel1> highrelygu1, xchat is available on windows
[22:55] <pbx> Hm, a recent update seems to have broken acpi(1) on my old Inspiron. Is there some other command-line tool I can use to read the battery charge?
[22:56] <_mug> highrelygu1: mirc is the standard (mirc.com)
[22:56] <barbarella> Voyage_:it is working for me, but in europe!
[22:56] <Karyom> hello, what is the Console Command to stop the Samba Server?
[22:56] <Malachi> panoma: When you return, please notify me by typing "Malachi" in your next line.
[22:56] <jakel1> _mug i think mirc costs money
[22:56] <highrelygu1> Let me try to get that.
[22:56] <barbarella> Voyage_:try this to start with, mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480  tv://
[22:56] <_mug> Karyom: /etc/init.d/smb stop or samba stop i guess
[22:56] <starkmjolk> Ubuntu server install won't post for me on a Compaq Proliant 8000 server, stalling with "Bad EIP value". Any suggestions?
[22:56] <Malachi> panoman: When you return, please notify me by typing "Malachi" in your next line.
[22:56] <EADG> pbx: apci -a
[22:56] <robertj> something has happened and now when I hold down backspace it doesn't delete, I have to press backspace repeatedly, where do I fix that?
[22:57] <Arelis> IdleOne: Okay, i tried killing X, and removing some files in /tmp. I had a panel again, but it started disappearing and reappearing again. What's causing that?
[22:57] <_mug> jakel1: 30 days free and then a "please register" on every start
[22:57] <ed_> cool thanks, its really just installing things, i dont know what to do with .tar.gz files, any tips?
[22:57] <jakel1> _mug: oh that's dumb.... xchat is free i think
[22:57] <EADG> pbx: wrong... acpi -a
[22:57] <jakel1> pbx: acpi problem
[22:57] <jakel1> oh dam EADG beat me to it
[22:57] <Karyom> worked...thanks!
[22:57] <kenro> Thanks for not ostrosizing  sic (ostrich sizing?) me. :) I was just trying to get a css-enabled dvd player. non sequitoring a bit, I mentioned doing a partial upgrade to kde4, then wondered if kde4 apps might handle css better...
[22:57] <barbarella> Voyage_:do you see something
[22:58] <highrelygu1> Yup, $20 for MIRC.  Will xchat work for you _mug?
[22:58] <salvin> http://myex.ath.cx/?id=57116a76
[22:58] <barbarella> Voyage_:do you see something
[22:58] <c0nka16> hello could someone help
[22:58] <_mug> jakel1: yes.. but.. really i like mirc and if it would be available in linux i would buy it. same as flashfxp :)
[22:58] <julian__> hey toni if your still on here when i check which driver i have in the terminal it logs me out of my username
[22:58] <c0nka16> i cat install ubuntu
[22:58] <c0nka16> cant*
[22:58] <jakel1> i think i'm jst use to xchat
[22:58] <_mug> highrelygu1: sure im using it,. too
[22:58] <xobius> c0nka16, what's your problem?
[22:58] <jakel1> c0nka16, that's a very vague problem
[22:58] <highrelygu1> OK, I try.
[22:58] <julian__> i believe i am using the same driver as you
[22:58] <jakel1> c0nka16, wat is the issue
[22:59] <Voyage_> barbarella  see where?
[22:59] <SnackPack> irssi++
[22:59] <Greevous> I've got a truecrypt problem: the password to my hidden volume has somehow been changed to match the password for my outer volume; obviously now it's impossible to mount the hidden volume
[22:59] <julian__> does any one run compiz fusion on a x1300 mobility radeon and realize it running very slow
[22:59] <c0nka16> the livecd doesnt work it comes up the loading screen and when the bar goes fully orange it stays on a black screen
[22:59] <jakel1> julian yes
[22:59] <julian__> because it is running very slow for me
[23:00] <jakel1> julian__, yes i have... and i dnt use it cuz of that
[23:00] <nickrud> julian__, what driver are you using for the ati?
[23:00] <kenro> Now I can't get conkalsix to autocomplete. I think my keymap is degenerate.
[23:00] <_mug> apropros flashfxp: is there a really good flashfxp-clone for advanced ftp usage with gui? no kasablanca oder kbear or gftp please
[23:00] <_mug> oder=or
[23:00] <toni_> julian__,  i am using it without slowmotion....i am using 8.44.3
[23:00] <nickrud> yes, the 7.12 works well
[23:01] <julian__> i am using the one off of ati site the binary that comes with catalyst 7.12 i believe it is 8.44.3
[23:01] <jakel1> ATI drivers generally suck on linux
[23:01] <xo> hello
[23:01] <Voyage_> barbarella which one should i use .... ntsc pal secam ?
[23:01] <jakel1> xo hello
[23:01] <xo> can somebody tell if is possible
[23:01] <HigRelyGuy> Hey guys - back with XChat.
[23:01] <xo> ...
[23:01] <kenro> c0nka16:  Oh zero, not oh. See how funky usernames affect me?
[23:01] <jakel1> yay for xchat
[23:01] <xo> to add group in the group
[23:01] <julian__> but i cant tell because if i fglxrinfo in terminal it logs me out of my user name dont know why
[23:01] <xo> ?
[23:01] <toni_> yes but with this card it's the only way to have effects without xgl
[23:01] <barbarella> Voyage_:see....what do you mean ????
[23:01] <kenro> jakel1: What was the problem?
[23:02] <c0nka16> ???
[23:02] <jakel1> wat problem?
[23:02] <julian__> i have xserver-xgl installed will that slow it down
[23:02] <HigRelyGuy> _mug I'm on xchat now.
[23:02] <jakel1> c0nka16, what kind of computer do u have?
[23:02] <toni_> julian__,  gutsy?
[23:02] <julian__> yes
[23:02] <nickrud> julian__, did you use http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide to install? . And you definitely don't what xserver-xgl with the latest ati
[23:02] <julian__> i am gutsy
[23:02] <kenro> jakel1: That's what I would love to know, coz it's tabcomp'ing with me, now.
[23:02] <nickrud> *want
[23:02] <toni_> julian__,  with the latest ati you don't need xgl!
[23:02] <_mug> HigRelyGuy: got it?
[23:03] <pbx> EADG, jakel1: thanks, but... that just tells me my AC adapter isn't connected. No battery info.
[23:03] <jakel1> then i have no clue kenro
[23:03] <pbx> (whereas there was info before my most recent update)
[23:03] <HigRelyGuy> Yup
[23:03] <julian__> okay i did not use that site so i will go their and install that way
[23:03] <ed_> can anyone tell me how to install stuff on linux, its my first time sry
[23:03] <Karyom> Hello, when I end the Samba Server, the WebInterface SWAT is still availble?! how do I end the SWAT?
[23:03] <HigRelyGuy> Just PMd you.
[23:03] <toni_> julian__, is better if you read it..
[23:03] <julian__> do you know how to unistall a driver i install through a .run file
[23:03] <jakel1> pbx... yea some laptops cnt tell u that
[23:03] <EADG> pbx: try apci -V
[23:03] <kenro> jakel1: My issue this whole time: I was just trying to get a css-enabled dvd player. non sequitoring a bit, I mentioned doing a partial upgrade to kde4, then wondered if kde4 apps might handle css better...
[23:03] <jakel1> pbx... something to do with the acpi
[23:03] <HigRelyGuy> tx for the tip jake
[23:04] <lenovoguy> Hi
[23:04] <c0nka16> jakel1:, i have a compaq presario sr1619uk
[23:04] <jakel1> i dunno kenro about kde4 that much... i haven't updated it
[23:04] <Voyage_> barbarella its the default standerd of televious with location
[23:04] <lenovoguy> having a an annoying issue with my wireless card
[23:04] <_mug> Karyom: doesnt matter it has no connection to samba anymore.. or just stop your webserver /etc/init.d/apache stop or whatever
[23:04] <jakel1> c0nak16 mine has the same problem... i have a presario as well
[23:04] <LnxSlck> anyone installed a dlin dwl-g520+ on ubuntu ?
[23:04] <macksting> I've got a few games which only run well in DosBox. Right now, I only know how to open them by right-clicking and such. How do I set up a shortcut to open the game in DosBox without my selecting it from a menu?
[23:04] <lenovoguy> i need to start the connection manually every time I boot
[23:04] <Voyage_> barbarella  i have tried all.. none works for me. and the tv-scanner says. theres no tv tuner.. so what should i do now?
[23:04] <HigRelyGuy> jake/mug - seen my pms yet?
[23:04] <barbarella> ed_:it is no freewar, you have to buy the application
[23:04] <kenro> jakel1: How dangerous, yet, to upgrade?
[23:04] <nickrud> julian__, no .... But hopefully if you follow that instruction religiously it will overwrite what you did with the run file
[23:04] <Karyom> okay thanks
[23:04] <SudoKing> lenovoguy, what network manager?
[23:05] <xo> have somebody good experience with linux groups ?
[23:05] <_mug> xo?
[23:05] <ed_> buy what application?
[23:05] <c0nka16> jakel1:, what are you using mate
[23:05] <lenovoguy> SudoKing: nm-applet
[23:05] <SudoKing> hrm
[23:05] <jakel1> kenro: not sure... i haven't upgraded, but i am gonna wait a bit more
[23:05] <barbarella> ed_:stuffit
[23:05] <lenovoguy> i dont know if it's an issue with drivers
[23:05] <nickrud> julian__, but before you try reinstalling ati drivers, try removing xserver-xgl and testing it, if you haven't already
[23:05] <lenovoguy> as i dont have a full range of WPA types to select
[23:05] <julian__> okay i hope it over rides what i did also why is their not a command to uninstall that stuff
[23:05] <c0nka16> ???
[23:05] <ed_> whats stuffit?
[23:06] <bajun> Hello. I can not intall my printer. Not a simply CUPS problem. Need help.
[23:06] <bajun> Problem description: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656394
[23:06] <Suva> Mac compressor
[23:06] <jakel1> c0nka16, right now i have a dell optiplex 745 and a dell optiplex gx280 and a dell optiplex 755 all running some distro of linuc
[23:06] <astro76> !anyone | xo
[23:06] <ubotu> xo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:06] <jakel1> the one i am on right now is using OpenSUSE
[23:06] <nickrud> julian__, because ati didn't give you one. That howto will set it up so you can use ubuntu tools to remove it
[23:06] <kenro> Hey, all, sorry about all the craziness surrounding the tabcomp/username crap. I honestly got really irritated about not being able to address my posts.
[23:06] <HigRelyGuy> I guess I still can't seem to PM either of you.
[23:06] <jakel1> my presario does not have linux cuz i had the same exact issue
[23:06] <c0nka16> damn
[23:06] <jakel1> i think it has to do with the nvidia card
[23:06] <c0nka16> :(
[23:06] <nickrud> julian__, it in this case, is the install using that howto
[23:06] <macksting> Ubotu: Does this apply to my question as well? I thought mine might be formatted correctly.
[23:06] <barbarella> ed_:do you want to extract sit files or not ?!
[23:06] <astro76> !register | HigRelyGuy
[23:06] <ubotu> HigRelyGuy: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[23:06] <macksting> Oh.
[23:06] <macksting> Not alive.
[23:06] <CoR_Text> ccc
[23:06] <c0nka16> what could be the issue
[23:07] <julian__> okay i will uninstall it but when i did that last time i tried compiz without xgl it did not run it said can not enable extra visual effects or something like that
[23:07] <kenro> PriceChild: That goes for you, too.
[23:07] <HigRelyGuy> ubotu - thanks!
[23:07] <ubotu> thanks! is <alias> thanks - added by bimberi on 2006-11-10 04:34:55
[23:07] <macksting> Pretty creative bot, that.
[23:07] <_mug> HigRelyGuy:  ubotu: ok THAT explains a LOT
[23:07] <Voyage_> barbarella  what now?
[23:07] <_mug> :)
[23:07]  * macksting shuts up and waits for his answer.
[23:07] <ed_> sorry i was jus wondering how to install anny files im completely new to this, i meant stuff not a program sorry
[23:07] <jakel1> c0nka16, you may need to use the alternate CD
[23:07] <barbarella> Voyage_:watching tv
[23:07] <jakel1> i bet u have a broadcom wireless card though
[23:08] <nickrud> julian__, that's true for the driver that comes with ubuntu, but the last couple of ati releases (won't be in ubuntu till hardy) don't require xserver-xgl
[23:08] <cosmodad> hi -- can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to display my laptop's desktop on a VGA-attached monitor? nothing dual-fancy, I just want to test an old CRT of mine.
[23:08] <jakel1> c0nka16, is ur wifi card a broadcom?
[23:08] <kenro> kde4 will be officially included no earlier than April?
[23:08] <Sia008o> alguien q hable español¿?
[23:08] <c0nka16> jakel1:, nope im on ethernet
[23:08] <jeff__> okay so I got my sound working!
[23:08] <jakel1> but it does have a wireless card right c0nka16
[23:08] <julian__> okay
[23:08] <Seveas> cosmodad, plug it in and push the appropriate buttons on your laptops keyboard to switch
[23:08] <jeff__> anyone know how to get this integrated laptop webcam installed?
[23:08] <c0nka16> jakel1:, nope
[23:08] <barbarella> Voyage_:what is your tv-card vendor?
[23:08] <_mug> cosmodad: first step would be to try your keyboard-functions :P
[23:08] <jakel1> oh ok.... yea try the alternate installer
[23:08] <function1> should i have a gtk-config script? some package is reporting it cant find one
[23:08] <HigRelyGuy> K, I think I'm registered now.
[23:08] <Voyage_> barbarella alpha
[23:08] <julian__> ok well thank you
[23:09] <c0nka16> jakel1:, should it work then
[23:09] <_mug> cosmodad: maybe fn+<monitor-symbol>
[23:09] <jakel1> there is an alternate CD available on the website, but it won't work as a live CD c0nka16 .....
[23:09] <nickrud> julian__, yw, I wish you luck with your ati stuff. That ati installer can be a killer
[23:09] <jakel1> i dnt know if it will work c0nka16
[23:09] <cosmodad> Seveas, _mug: thanks people, didn't realize it was that easy and involved no config hacking at all. :)
[23:09] <jakel1> it's the only option i can  think of that might work
[23:09] <jakel1> i never tried it on my presario
[23:09] <J15BIG2> Hello, can anyone tell me why when I try to install Ubuntu, it takes me directly to the terminal?
[23:10] <barbarella> Voyage_:what is your tv-card vendor?
[23:10] <jeff__> anyone have any ideas how to install my webcam?
[23:10] <barbarella> Voyage_:alpha???
[23:10] <PurpZeY> J15BIG2: How are you trying to install it?
[23:10] <Voyage_> barbarella brand name is alpha tv tuner
[23:10] <Seveas> jeff__, plug it in, start 'cheese' to see if it works
[23:10] <_mug> cosmodad: life is simple :P
[23:10] <julian__> yep thanks
[23:10] <J15BIG2> I downloaded the iso, burned it, then booted from CD
[23:10] <jeff__> seveas its built into my laptop
[23:11] <jakel1> brb piddle break
[23:11] <PurpZeY> J15BIG2: Are you given the choices "start and install" "install" etc?
[23:11] <julian__> oh one thin nick rud how  do you direct your messages so they are highlighted towards me
[23:11] <Seveas> jeff__, well, omit the 'plug it in' step then :)
[23:11] <Gigamo> J15BIG2, you mean the recovery console?
[23:11] <jeff__> camerama webcam viewer did not find it
[23:11] <Seveas> jeff__, try cheese, I usually have more success with that one
[23:11] <jakel1> julian__, you need to use the persons nick
[23:11] <jeff__> seveas, is it just start cheese in terminal
[23:11] <J15BIG2> im not sure, it gives me the graphical menu when i boot from cd, then i selected the first option (i believe it was run or install)
[23:11] <kenro> PriceChild: Of course, when you maintain as high-profile a presence as I do, be it helping, trolling, or as now just being stupid, when one makes a general post and is ignored, one might consider shutting up and going elsewhere.
[23:11] <PurpZeY> just cheese
[23:11] <Seveas> jeff__, a good indication of success is the existence of /dev/video0
[23:11] <julian__> nickrud, do you just put the name in front of a comma like this
[23:12] <jakel1> julian__, if the persons nick is in the line you type it will highlight in their terminal
[23:12] <cosmodad> _mug: Ubuntu is. Most of the time. ;)
[23:12] <barbarella> Voyage_:can you type lspci in a terminal. What does it really say about your tv card?
[23:12] <marina> how can I install divx plugin?
[23:12] <HigRelyGuy> Jake - I sent three message PM did you get them?
[23:12] <LnxSlck> anyone installed a dlin dwl-g520+ on ubuntu ??
[23:12] <julian__> cool thanks all
[23:12] <Phusion> marina: VLC should play divx
[23:12] <toni_> julian__, it will override
[23:12] <jakel1> no HigRelyGuy u are sending them via CTCP
[23:12] <jakel1> i dnt accept those
[23:12] <cosmodad> marina: any MPEG4-compatible player (almost all) can play DivX movies.
[23:12] <jakel1> brb though
[23:12] <jakel1> piddle break
[23:12] <_mug> cosmodad: hrhr.. yes.. MOST of the time..  :)
[23:12] <jeff__> im installing cheese.
[23:12] <HigRelyGuy> Um, I open a window via "DCC"?
[23:12] <J15BIG2> I downloaded the 64 bit version, but now im thinking i should DL the normal version
[23:12] <mkquist> quick question, can two diff distros share swap?
[23:13] <kenro> jakel1: kde4 will be officially included no earlier than April?
[23:13] <HigRelyGuy> I got your types.
[23:13] <astro76> mkquist, yes
[23:13] <julian__> toni, okay thanks glad to hear it will over ride
[23:13] <Seveas> mkquist, if you don't run them at the same time (e.g. via vmware: yes)
[23:13] <mkquist> astro76  - ty
[23:13] <HigRelyGuy> Oh, what's the correct procedure>
[23:13] <jeff__> seveas, my current webcam software says there is no /dev/video)
[23:13] <Seveas> jeff__, how about /dev/video0
[23:13] <marina> Phusion: on joox.net there's a message that unknown plugins are missing. i do have vlc
[23:13] <Karyom> Hello, Is it nor possible to stop the Samba-Swat Web Interface? I don't want it to be accessible, over the network!
[23:14] <Gigamo> J15BIG2, you could try pressing F6 for extra options when it boots from the livecd, and change "splash" into "nosplash". That worked when I ran my 64bit livecd.
[23:14] <xobius> marina, what ubuntu version are you using?
[23:14] <Phusion> marina: ahh you mean embedded divx
[23:14] <HigRelyGuy> _mug you still there?
[23:14] <macksting> Perhaps my question has been missed.
[23:14] <jeff__> seveas, that is what I meant.  there is none
[23:14] <CoR_Text> /echo $ip
[23:14] <_mug> yap
[23:14] <toni_> macksting, about?
[23:14] <Seveas> jeff__, that's a pity
[23:14] <HigRelyGuy> I guess you didn't get my PMs either.
[23:14] <J15BIG2> Im not sure if I should be running the 64 bit version. I have an Intel quad core processor
[23:14] <jeff__> seveas, cheese says, no video
[23:14] <kenro> George Bush (the younger) is a stupid chicken *ucker. Uh Oh. Where'd these Secret Service agents com
[23:14] <Gigamo> yeah that is no problem
[23:14] <Seveas> jeff__, pastebin the output of the commands dmesg and lsusb
[23:15] <Phusion> marina: since you obviously checked google before asking in here, you saw --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491592&highlight=divx
[23:15] <marina> Phusion: It could be... i don't know exactly
[23:15] <Gigamo> core2duo/quad cpu's are 64bit.
[23:15] <macksting> I shall repeat it. How do I set up a shortcut to open a game in DosBox without my selecting it from a menu?
[23:15]  * Phusion sighs
[23:15] <_mug> HigRelyGuy: i dont have a registered nick.. so if you didnt get my pm its my fault
[23:15] <toni_> macksting, sorry, i don't knoe how
[23:15] <macksting> Mrrf.
[23:15] <J15BIG2> Gigamo, so press F6 then select nosplash?
[23:15] <HigRelyGuy> ope.
[23:15] <_mug> HigRelyGuy: did you register?
[23:15] <eTranquility> Hi, I've recently lost my internet connection. My router and stuff are fine, wireless signal's really strong, works on other machines and was working on my own until a bit ago. I can't get either a wired or wireless connection even though wicd tells me I'm connected. I have no idea what to do, can someone help me troubleshoot?
[23:15] <HigRelyGuy> yup.
[23:15] <Phusion> macksting: you don't, DOSBox is a DOS emulator, you need to run dosbox and then execute the game, there's no shortcut for emulated dos games in linux
[23:15] <xobius> marina did you install mplayer-mozilla plugin?
[23:15] <nbogdanoff> does anyone know what happend to ubuntu-base and linux-686 in Gutsy 7.10 ?
[23:16] <Seveas> nbogdanoff, they're obsolete
[23:16] <function1> should i have a gtk-config script? some package is reporting it cant find one. i have libgtk*-dev and libglib*-dev installed
[23:16] <Seveas> nbogdanoff, and iirc even removed
[23:16] <Voyage_> barbarella - http://pastebin.com/md32bab8
[23:16] <marina> xobius: yes now it works
[23:16] <_mug> eTranquility: do you know the IP-adress of your router? if yes try ping IP
[23:16] <marina> Phusion: thank you
[23:16] <jakel1> kenro: i'm not a KDE expert... i have no clue when it will be distributed
[23:16] <Phusion> marina: you're welcome, just remember there are lots of answers on google
[23:16] <jeff__> seveas, what is the pastebin website?
[23:16] <HigRelyGuy> jake - RU registered?
[23:16] <Seveas> !pastebin | jeff__
[23:16] <ubotu> jeff__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:16] <starkmjolk> noone here no what could cause "bad EIP value" during boot of latest ubuntu server install?
[23:16] <xobius> marina,  your browser play divx videos?
[23:16] <jakel1> HigRelyGuy, yes i am
[23:17] <HigRelyGuy> can you pm me?
[23:17] <LimCore> starkmjolk: not by hw by any chance
[23:17] <macksting> Damn.
[23:17] <jakel1> i did HigRelyGuy
[23:17] <HigRelyGuy> Bummer.
[23:17] <macksting> Thanks.
[23:17] <PirateHead> jeff__: Or check channel topic.
[23:17] <nbogdanoff> Seveas:  so how can i install the base system, trying to do raid according to this site http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[23:17] <HigRelyGuy> Actually I got yours but you didn't get mine did you.
[23:17] <starkmjolk> LimCore: might be but it works like a charm with freebsd
[23:17] <astro76> HigRelyGuy, you could just join an empty channel like #higrelyguy
[23:17] <Seveas> starkmjolk, that sounds slightly scary. Bad instruction pointer can mean defective hardware, memory corruption or broken software. If the install is fairly recent I recommend a reinstall to test
[23:18] <HigRelyGuy> astro - thank you!
[23:18] <jakel1> it'd be nice if he put a password no one knows though
[23:18] <jakel1> lol
[23:18] <jakel1> just kidding
[23:18] <kenro> jakel1:  Thanks. OK having dealt with those agents, Is there a floodspace and someone to look over an error? Not you, Jakel. I've bugged you too much already.
[23:18] <Seveas> nbogdanoff, apt-get install ubuntu-{minimal,standard}
[23:18] <starkmjolk> Seveas: it is when trying to install, directly after the main menu on the install CD
[23:18] <HigRelyGuy> then what - I have to ask someone else to hop in it?
[23:18] <Andrew23524534> Does anyone know of an easy way to split a flac file into multiple files according to a cue file, without having to use the terminal?
[23:18] <astro76> high-freq, yep with /join #channelname
[23:18] <sudobash> would anyone be interested to look at an Ubuntu 7.10 kernel panic dump I took pictures of?
[23:18] <jakel1> my name is jakel1 get the one right
[23:18] <Seveas> starkmjolk, that could mean defective CD
[23:19] <astro76> HigRelyGuy, , yep with /join #channelname
[23:19] <nbogdanoff> Seveas: : and what about 686 ?
[23:19] <starkmjolk> Seveas: newly burnt so can be, will check it directly (can't do it from the cd though)
[23:19] <Seveas> nbogdanoff, linux-generic
[23:19] <kenro> jakel-one, right, sorry
[23:19] <nbogdanoff> thanks
[23:19] <ryanmf> hey all. i was getting some help in #linuxhelp earlier, and we thought my problem was solved and now it's reappeared. i just bought a computer that has onboard nvidia graphics, and only the latest nvidia drivers (169.04+) are applicable. after a lot of frustration i got those installed, but then i ran the system update and now I'm stuck in 640x480. any suggestions?
[23:19] <jakel1> HigRelyGuy, we are private chatting right now.... what's up
[23:19] <barbarella> Voyage_:forget it with the SAA7130, buy an other card ;-)
[23:19] <Seveas> sudobash, sure, why not
[23:19] <julian__> hey thanks for that wiki i am rebooting to see what if it fixed it. i read on the wiki that if it says mesa that it did not install right and mine did say mesa
[23:19] <jakel1> kenro: try after me....  j-a-k-e-l-1
[23:19] <HigRelyGuy> K, but once I'm there how to I invite others?
[23:20] <sudobash> let me get the best picture
[23:20] <nbogdanoff> and how come apt-cdrom add doesnt work in 7.10
[23:20] <Voyage_> barbarella why........ doesnt it has any solution?
[23:20] <sudobash> where do you want me to post the picture?
[23:20] <jakel1> now all at once kenro: jakel1
[23:20] <Seveas> nbogdanoff, it should afaik, what's the error
[23:20] <jakel1> HigRelyGuy, i dnt think u can in a prvt chat
[23:20] <_mug> HigRelyGuy: which channel are you on?
[23:20] <kenro> I hate typing. Sorry for offending.
[23:20] <Seveas> sudobash, imageshack oslt
[23:20] <jeff__> seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50656/
[23:20] <sudobash> ok
[23:20] <astro76> HigRelyGuy, just tell them to /join #channelname, replacing channelname with your channel name :D
[23:20] <Triplenin> I'm burning the cd already!
[23:20] <Triplenin> I hope it will work
[23:21] <nbogdanoff> i guess the rom drive goes to sleep if inactive for too long ?
[23:21] <nickrud> julian__, you probably don't have the kernel driver installed, try   sudo modprobe fglrx , log out and back in. If you still have mesa, put a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (and use my nick in your lines, that way it won't get lost in the channel flow)
[23:21] <eTranquility> _mug: Thanks. "7 packets transmitted, 0 received. 100% packet loss" I take it this means it didn't work?
[23:21] <jeff__> seveas line 423 seems to have the camera
[23:21] <kenro> sudodash jakel1 Can't you sorta ftp files between xchat clients?
[23:21] <barbarella> Voyage_:you can test it with the option: card=? tuner=?   just trial and error.
[23:21] <Seveas> jeff__, yup
[23:22] <_mug> eTranquility: right.. houston you got a problem :P
[23:22] <LnxSlck> anyone with the acx cant use irq 0 on dwl-g520+ ?
[23:22] <jeff__> seveas what does all this mean?  its a USB device, and it is or is not installed?
[23:22] <jakel1> kenro: u can ctcp them to another person
[23:22] <kenro> ctcp... that's the prot.
[23:22] <Seveas> jeff__, it recognized the cam, not sure if the driver is there
[23:22] <Seveas> jeff__, pastebin the output of lsmod
[23:22] <jakel1> in xchat if you right click on their name and select send file i think that will work kenro
[23:22] <Voyage_> barbarella how to try card=? tuner=?
[23:22] <_mug> eTranquility: please type "/join etran"
[23:23] <Triplenin> Et voila
[23:23] <_mug> eTranquility: please type "/join #etran"
[23:23] <kenro> sudodash jakel1: Just a thought, as I'm not privy to the issue between you two.
[23:23] <Andycass1> how to search a file in terminal?
[23:23] <Seveas> Andycass1, slocate
[23:24] <barbarella> Voyage_:modprobe saaXXX card=? tuner=?
[23:24] <EADG> Andycass1: locate <filename>
[23:24] <jeff__> seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50658/
[23:24] <astro76> Andycass1, unless you mean search *in* a file, then grep
[23:24] <kenro> Seveas: Tell me grep pipe isn't being phased out...
[23:24] <jeff__> seveas thanks a TON for helping me with this.
[23:25] <kenro> OK now I'm officially blathering. :/
[23:25] <IdleOne> need some help with my digital video cam. after running ' tail -f /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages ' I plug in the cam and get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50657/ only thing is I dont know what to do with that info. any help?
[23:25] <jakel1> what issue between me and sudodash? who is sudodash
[23:25] <sudobash> here is the kernel panic: http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0132qv3.jpg
[23:26] <kenro> jakel1:  sudobash... never mind.
[23:26] <sudobash> it booted up fine afterward though... not sure if this matters but i upgraded from 7.06 to 7.10 through the update client provided in gnome
[23:26] <jakel1> wow konqueror is a really bad browser
[23:26] <ader10> Istanbul doesn't seem to be saving my recorded desktop session to disk. It says it is but nothing appears to be happening.
[23:26] <Seveas> jeff__, no driver seems to be loaded and I can't find which one to use. hang on a bit
[23:26] <mrynit> is dell only selling one laptop now with ubuntu?
[23:26] <GreenGreen> sorry , bye :)
 sudodash jakel1: Just a thought, as I'm not privy to the issue between you two.
[23:27] <Andycass1> EADG: how can i make it search the whole filesystem?
[23:27] <sudobash> that was kenro saying that not me
[23:27] <jeff__> Seveas, you're a huge help
[23:27] <sudobash> dumba$$
[23:27] <Andycass1> EADG: right now it searches just home or something
[23:27] <jakel1> yea.... jst a bit...
[23:27] <jakel1> oh wait that is mean
[23:27] <IdleOne> !ohmy | sudobash
[23:27] <ubotu> sudobash: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:27] <nickrud> ader10, try gtk-recordmydesktop , maybe that one will work better for you
[23:27] <Voyage_> barbarella loguser1@pc1:~$ modprobe saa7130 card=? tuner=?
[23:27] <Voyage_> FATAL: Module saa7130 not found.
[23:27] <jakel1> actually sudobash he is a genius
[23:27] <ader10> nickrud: thanks.
[23:27] <EADG> Andycass1: cd to /
[23:27] <Seveas> jeff__, sudo modprobe ov51x
[23:27] <kenro> jakel1: What's the problem with konq, now? I've about stopped using it as a web browser coz so many seem to optimize it out.
[23:27] <EADG> then run locate, I think that might work.
[23:27] <ader10> nickrud: do you know of a way to check if it actually is saving to disk?
[23:28] <Seveas> jeff__, and check if /dev/video0 exists after doing that
[23:28] <Seveas> if not, do dmesg again and pastebin the output
[23:28] <Andycass1> EADG: no, it still doesnt do anything
[23:28] <nickrud> ader10, not off the top of my head, no.
[23:28] <jeff__> Seveas, okay
[23:28] <Andycass1> EADG: searches for 1 sec then finishes
[23:28] <IdleOne> Seveas: while your on the camera fixing thing you mind taking a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50657/ and telling me what to do with that info?
[23:28] <jakel1> kenro, open this page in konqueror http://microsoft-personal-operating-systems.hostweb.com/TopicMessages/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/1879404/2/Default.aspx
[23:29] <jakel1> and tell me what's wrong with it
[23:29] <Seveas> IdleOne, looks like a usb wifi thing was added there
[23:29] <starkmjolk> Seveas: the CD is good, md5 checks out
[23:29] <EADG> Andycass1: the find command can dig into dirs, but I'm not sure of the command for it.
[23:29] <kenro> sudobash: I'm not smart. I just know a hell of a lot. Unfortunately, not so much about computers. Need pure problemsolving intelligence for this.
[23:29] <jeff__> Seveas, FATAL: Module ov51x not found.
[23:29] <IdleOne> Seveas: yeah my digital camera but wifi? not supposed to be no
[23:29] <jakel1> EADG command for what?
[23:29] <starkmjolk> Seveas: it's a quite big server, can it just be incompability?
[23:29] <mrynit> i have libgtk2.0 installed but an app needs libgtk1.2. if i use synaptic to install libgtk1.2 will there be conflicts with 2.0?
[23:29] <nickrud> mrynit, no
[23:29] <ryanmf> hey all. i was getting some help in #linuxhelp earlier, and we thought my problem was solved and now it's reappeared. i just bought a computer that has onboard nvidia graphics, and only the latest nvidia drivers (169.04+) are applicable. after a lot of frustration i got those installed, but then i ran the system update and now I'm stuck in 640x480. any suggestions?
[23:29] <Seveas> starkmjolk, then it seems that either you use the cd for the wrong architecture or your hardware is doing weird things
[23:29] <mrynit> nickrud: thank you
[23:30] <Voyage_> can any one help me with a aplha tv tuner  Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[23:30] <EADG> Andycass1: find -maxdepth 20 foo
[23:30] <Phusion> ryanmf: sounds like your xorg conf got screwed up
[23:30] <randorfer> ryanmf:  edit your xorg.conf and put in the correct resolution
[23:30] <kenro> jakel1: OK yeah, that's people optimizing so heavily toward MS.
[23:30] <starkmjolk> Seveas: it might do :) but freebsd can handle it and has done so for quite some time, don't think it is broken
[23:30] <EADG> Andycass1: I'll try also, sec.
[23:30] <sudobash> anyways just wanted to share the kernel panic maybe it will help the developers, upgraded from 7.06 to 7.10 up to date with sudo apt-get install upgrade/updates and has nvidia driver version 169.07 and it is an AMD 2400+ with 1 GB ram, Nforce chipset
[23:30] <Seveas> starkmjolk, then ubuntu doesn't like your h/w
[23:30] <starkmjolk> does ubuntu server have a hardware compability list I've missed?
[23:30] <randorfer> ryanmf:  under your monitor add modes "1280x1024" if thats what your resolution should be
[23:30] <Seveas> starkmjolk, try an older version
[23:30] <starkmjolk> Seveas: I'm trying to confirm this, but my guess too :)
[23:31] <jakel1> well firefox works fine
[23:31] <sudobash> do you need any more info?
[23:31] <kenro> jakel1: Use Gnome? Try it in Galeon. I dont use Gnome.
[23:31] <jakel1> so does opera
[23:31] <Seveas> I have some compatibility probs with the 2.6.22 kernel with some sata controllers (used in dell pcs)
[23:31] <Jangari> hey all, i'm trying to automatically mount a server share with fstab, what line should I add to it?
[23:31] <jakel1> and so does Safari
[23:31] <jakel1> and so does Galeon
[23:31] <sudobash> i would think the kernel panic dump would be quit useful for someone
[23:31] <randorfer> ryanmf:  also make sure that it is loading your video driver, it should say driver "nv" under the video driver section
[23:31] <ryanmf> phusion randorfer: thanks guys, i'll give that a shot
[23:31] <kenro> OK try it in IE. I'll bet it renders perfectly.
[23:31] <mrynit> instead of installing games to home/user is there another location that is better?
[23:31] <Seveas> jeff__, ot seems to be ov511 now instead of ov51x
[23:32] <sudobash> its an interrupt problem
[23:32] <EADG> Andycass1: I keep getting errors on find -maxdepth xx. Anybody else know how to search the whole sys with find?
[23:32] <Seveas> mrynit, /usr/local or /opt if you want to share it with all local users
[23:32] <IdleOne> Seveas: dmesg seems to give the exact same info as the pastebin I gave you
[23:32] <nickrud> mrynit, /usr/local or /opt
[23:32]  * nickrud needs faster fingers
[23:32] <sudobash> if you didnt get it it is: http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0132qv3.jpg
[23:32] <sudobash> later
[23:32] <lem> is there any open Application Lister for gnome or just in general?
[23:33] <kenro> jakel1:  You could organize an international boycott of websites that don't render properly in Linux browsers...
[23:33] <jeff__> Seveas, okay that time it ran, didnt do anything though... and there is no /dev/vidoe0
[23:33] <randorfer> lem check man apt
[23:33] <Seveas> jeff__, then do the dmesg thing
[23:33] <randorfer> lem apt is your package manager and thus knows what you installed on your system via it, the man pages will tell you how to show that
[23:33] <lem> i mean current open applications, like what Mac OS (classic) has
[23:33] <fsufitch> heyy, anybody here know how to enable gtk themes while not in gnome? i'm using fvwm-crystal and trying to get it to be prettyful, but all of my applications have that default gtk yech square grey buttons. is there some way to get my gnome settings for the theme to apply in fvwm?
[23:33] <Jangari> strangely, the fonts used in the open source wordpress don't render properly in linux
[23:33] <Seveas> lem, system -> administration -> system monitor
[23:33] <jakel1> kenro, it renders in other linux browsers fine just not konqueror
[23:34] <kenro> I WANNA WATCH SHOOT EM UP! But I can't get a player to decrypt it!
[23:34] <lem> but nothing to show them all in a list?
[23:34] <Jangari> anyone help with an fstab issue?
[23:34] <jeff__> dang, I have to step out.
[23:34] <juan> im copying a file and kill -9 'process name' wont kill it, how do i stop the process
[23:34] <Seveas> lem, ps
[23:34] <Seveas> in a terminal :)
[23:34] <lem> kenro: grab VLC through synaptic
[23:34] <randorfer> lem, you can also add window selector to your gnome bar and it will show you
[23:34] <jeff__> thanks for the help, im going to try and get this going later.
[23:34] <lem> heh.. not very widgety
[23:34] <randorfer> jaun kill -9 uses pids
[23:34] <Jangari> juan, sudo killall 'process name'
[23:34] <randorfer> jaun killall uses names
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> fsufitch: You can change gtk themes in Fluxbox. but I'm not sure about fvwm
[23:34] <lem> randorfer: that's all the windows, not applications
[23:35] <EADG> Andycass1: try find -iname *filename* that should search all mountable drives/dirs.
[23:35] <Voyage_> barbarella what now
[23:35] <Pie-rat2> I run apt-mirror on both feisty and gutsy packages... how can i clear out the feisty packages?
[23:35] <randorfer> lem, all windows are running applications...
[23:35] <kenro> jakel1: Then I misread your listing of browsers. That was all that properly render? Maybe Konq really is dieing.
[23:35] <Seveas> lem, I don't know what mac os classic looks like, sorry :)
[23:35] <lem> well like firefox, gedit, terminal, etc
[23:35] <juan> Jangari: no change
[23:35] <randorfer> lem, but ps aux will show you everything currently running, it just depends on what your looking for
[23:35] <fsufitch> Odd-rationale: could you tell me more about how you do it in fluxbox?
[23:35] <eeeandrew> hi guys. Does anyone know any ubuntu programs similar to microsoft autoroute?
[23:35] <soldats> lem, type "top" in a terminal
[23:35] <fsufitch> or is it a tool thing
[23:35] <ader10> where is the alsa sound device? TeamSpeak uses OSS at /dev/oss and RecordMyDesktop uses "DEFAULT"
[23:35] <soldats> it shows everything
[23:35] <Seveas> eeeandrew, google maps in any browser
[23:35] <IdleOne> Seveas: if I cant get this camera working and transfer my videos using ubuntu then I will be forced to move to the other desk where there is a computer affected by bug #1 . do you honestly want me to have to suffer that?
[23:35] <lem> i was hoping there was something for gnome and outside of the terminal..
[23:36] <fsufitch> Odd-rationale: i'm looking for something shell-like or a config file to put my preferences in
[23:36] <kenro> lem: Glad you mentioned vlc. I have a problem I would like you to check a floodpost.
[23:36] <eeeandrew> thanx seveas
[23:36] <soldats> lem, you could install a dockbar
[23:36] <lem> kenro: uhm ok :)
[23:36] <Seveas> IdleOne, poor you
[23:36] <Pie-rat2> eeeandrew: firefox maps.google.com
[23:36] <IdleOne> lol
[23:36] <Seveas> IdleOne, what's the type of your cam?
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> fsufitch: In fluxbox, I install gtk-theme-switch. And run it with "switch2"
[23:36] <kenro> lem: But... Think you can handle it?
[23:36] <randorfer> lem, gnome-system-manager is the equivalent of ctrl + alt + delete in windows (will show all running processes and programs) located under system -> admin -> system monitor
[23:36] <lem> soldats: that just might do it, i was wondering if there was a list
[23:36] <eeeandrew> thanks pie-rat 2
[23:37] <lem> kenro: i could take a look
[23:37] <IdleOne> Seveas: it is a Vuescape  digital camcorder
[23:37] <Seveas> IdleOne, does /dev/video0 exist after plugging in?
[23:37] <soldats> lem, search synaptic for dockbar
[23:37] <fsufitch> Odd-rationale: i'll try that
[23:37] <kenro> lem: Cool. Want it PM? Or #flood or floodspace?
[23:37] <nickrud> fsufitch, you might try gtk-chtheme , it might be compatible with fvwm
[23:37] <lem> randorfer: yeah i'm familiar with that. i'm more looking for a Window Selector that only shows applications
[23:37] <lem> soldats: mk
[23:38] <lem> kenro: pm plz =)
[23:38] <kenro> OK hold on...
[23:38] <IdleOne> Seveas: no it doesnt
[23:38] <Seveas> IdleOne, then google for linux+that type of cam and see which driver you need :)
[23:38] <HigRelyGuy> Can someone who knows how to install and remove kernel modules at boot time join #highrely?
[23:38] <IdleOne> Seveas: ok hehe
[23:39] <fsufitch> Odd-rationale, nickrud : and for those suggested progs, does X have a place I can put "startup" programs that get run whenever i log on?
[23:39] <fsufitch> i know kde has .kde/Autostart/
[23:39] <fsufitch> and gnome has something else
[23:39] <ader10> what's the alsa equivalent for /dev/dsp
[23:39] <soldats> there is a folder called startup i believe
[23:39] <nickrud> fsufitch, I know gnome only, there's also .xinitrc for starting apps in X
[23:39] <PurpZeY> fsufitch: system--> pref --> session
[23:40] <nickrud> fsufitch, used by startx and the xsession in gdm, don't know how fvwm works though
[23:40] <kenro> lem: diallog box doesn't work? Perhaps we need #flood...
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> fsufitch: I used only gnome and fluxbox. sorry
[23:40] <HigRelyGuy> Help!!! I need a kernel module installation wizard!
[23:40] <lem> kenro: kk
[23:40] <randorfer> fsufitch:  system -> pref -> session or /etc/init.d/rc.* where * is the coresponding runlevel
[23:40] <ryanmf> phusion randorfer: if either of you are still available, literally EVERYTHING in xorg.conf is described as "not found". i'm not entirely sure what to make of this.
[23:40] <fsufitch> ook
[23:40] <Don_> http://www.vote4freedom08.com/
[23:40] <Don_> whoops
[23:41] <randorfer> ryanmf -- do Xorg --reconfigure
[23:41] <Phusion> ryanmf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:41] <nickrud> ryanmf, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg for pure default config
[23:41] <randorfer> phusion:  does Xorg --reconfigure work on ubuntu?
[23:41] <Phusion> not a clue
[23:41] <Phusion> I always use dpkg
[23:41] <fsufitch> PurpZeY, randorfer I don't have those menus, as I'm not in gnome ;)
[23:41] <sverige> how do i find the amount of ram my system has? in gnome or terminal. i see some value at bootup but can make out what the actual ram is
[23:42] <astro76> sverige, free -m
[23:42] <Andycass1> how to update locate db?
[23:42] <randorfer> fsufitch what are you in?
[23:42] <nickrud> randorfer, yes, but the dpkg-reconfigure integrates well with the rest of the system
[23:42] <Phusion> sverige: System -> Admin -> System Monitor
[23:42] <guilherme> alguem poderia me ajudar sobre o Ubuntu?
[23:42] <randorfer> andycass:  sudo updatedb?
[23:42] <ryanmf> phusion randorfer nickrud: so, um...which of those am i doing?
[23:42] <Phusion> mine
[23:42] <astro76> !pt | guilherme
[23:42] <ubotu> guilherme: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:42] <starkmjolk> sverige:  cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal
[23:42] <ader10> How do I record sound with RecordMyDesktop?
[23:42] <ryanmf> phusion: cool. thanks.
[23:43] <randorfer> ryanmf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will ask you questions, Xorg --configure will just try to do it automatically
[23:43] <sverige> thanks for the response
[23:43] <nickrud> ryanmf, mine! :)
[23:43] <fsufitch> randorfer: fvwm-crystal
[23:43] <fsufitch> randorfer: www.fvwm-crystal.org
[23:43] <randorfer> fsufitch:  are you familiar with runlevels?
[23:43] <fsufitch> not too familiar
[23:44] <nickrud> randorfer, reasonably familiar, what's the question?
[23:44] <randorfer> nickrud:  fsufitch is asking about startup progs, and thats how it really happens ;-)
[23:44] <nickrud> randorfer, I thought it was about starting apps when starting X ..
[23:45] <sverige> how can i install the ssh server so i can log in remote to my machine_
[23:45] <randorfer> nickrud:  no, runlevels start programs when that runlevel is activeated, X is started via a runlevel
[23:45] <sverige> apt-get install ssh open?
[23:45] <astro76> sverige, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:45] <sverige> thanks
[23:46] <ader10> How do I record sound with RecordMyDesktop?
[23:46] <nickrud> randorfer, gdm is, yes. But the X session is started by gdm, and not by the runlevel init script itself
[23:46] <randorfer> nickrud:  but im not sitting infront of a ubuntu box (sitting infront of an arch box) so im not sure of the specific locations.
[23:46] <KrazyG> Hey all.
[23:46] <randorfer> nickrun:  exactly?? and also not necessarily gdm is specific usually to gnome, you could also just have startx in a init script
[23:47] <KrazyG> I'm looking for some help setting up my tv tuner in ubuntu, anyone be able to lend a hand?
[23:47] <randorfer> fsufitch:  what was your originally question / what are you trying to do
[23:48] <randorfer> nickrun:  or even just gnome-session its all just convention
[23:48] <sverige> what the best remote desktop that i can use to open a software and have it run even when i log off that session?
[23:48] <fsufitch> randorfer: i'm trying to get gtk theming working by default when i log into fvwm
[23:48] <sverige> i try nx server but it seems everything get disc when i terminate the connection
[23:49] <nickrud> randorfer true. gnome-session is just invoked as an X session, you could put gnome-session in .xinitrc and start gnome on the command line with startx
[23:49] <sverige> i want to be able to in initiate a download on a remote machine and drop the connection but the download still occored on the remote machine
[23:50] <fsufitch> randorfer: doesn't it just reduce to how do you run an app right after logon? like if i want to start with an xterm every time i log in
[23:50] <astro76> sverige, the vnc server built into gnome (vino) is set up to allow you to control the logged in desktop, which remains logged in after you disconnect
[23:50] <randorfer> nickrud: ...didn't I say that?
[23:50] <nickrud> randorfer, no, startx in a runlevel script would start a root X session if it worked at all
[23:50] <astro76> sverige, of course the best way is shell only with screen and ssh ;)
[23:50] <sverige> but i heard the nx server is better
[23:50] <astro76> sverige, it's faster over a slow connection, yes
[23:51] <sverige> with ssh can i still have the active download even when i log of the session?
[23:51] <randorfer> fsufitch my googling says that normal startup stuff for fvwm is stored in your ~/.fvwm/startup folder
[23:51] <astro76> sverige, maybe you should try the built in first though
[23:51] <randorfer> nickrud:  that is a good point
[23:51] <sverige> what u mean
[23:51] <zoidberg_> hey guys is there a good n64 emulator that works well on ubuntu
[23:51] <sverige> i dont mind using the terminal i kind of like it
[23:51] <astro76> sverige, with ssh, you use screen to do that
[23:51] <sverige> what mean by screen is that a command
[23:51] <fsufitch> randorfer: i wasn't able to find that... but thanks, i'll try it
[23:51] <randorfer> fsufitch, do you need more guidance than that or can you figure it out from there?
[23:51] <astro76> sverige, it allows you to create, detach, then reattach later to a shell session(s)
[23:51] <sverige> i have ssh set up on the machine
[23:52] <Andres22_rio4> hello.. what this mean? "&echo open 77.90.4.28 21 >> ij &ces\cm"
[23:52] <PurpZeY> zoidberg_: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[23:52] <nickrud> fsufitch, but randorfer has identified the solution anyway :)
[23:52] <fsufitch> randorfer: well, what shell/program would i need to run to make gtk themes work
[23:52] <astro76> sverige, yes screen is a command
[23:52] <sverige> i c
[23:52] <fsufitch> because, running switch2 runs the switch2 program which pops up a window to pick the theme
[23:52] <fsufitch> and i have to click apply
[23:53] <sverige> with the shell i can do all kind of batch job or download or whatever i can do in a gui enviroments?
[23:53] <PurpZeY> andresj: : looks like the end of a bash script
[23:53] <fsufitch> i'm very picky about how many clicks i have to do to start a session, and this is a reason i'm using linux over windows anyway: that it can configure itself
[23:53] <Andres22_rio4> hello.. what this mean? "&echo open 77.90.4.28 21 >> ij &ces\cm"
[23:53] <astro76> sverige, for downloading you can use wget
[23:53] <PurpZeY> Andres22_rio4: It is the end of a bash script
[23:53] <sverige> and ftp
[23:53] <randorfer> fsufitch heh I understand, give me a second
[23:53] <astro76> sverige, indeed
[23:53] <Eyemean> sorry but wats the delete command in gutsy pls?
[23:53] <nickrud> fsufitch, http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/465/#fvwm-use
[23:53] <n00dle> Hiya... any suspend/resume/kernel experts available?
[23:53] <soldats> rm
[23:54] <astro76> sverige, wget probably grabs from ftp in addition to http
[23:54] <orphean> rm <file>
[23:54] <Andres22_rio4> yes
[23:54] <sverige> oh yah what the easiest ftp a newbie can setup without to much trouble_
[23:54] <Andres22_rio4> but what means?
[23:54] <Eyemean> cheers orphean
[23:54] <astro76> sverige, server?
[23:54] <sverige> yeah
[23:54] <astro76> sverige, for just yourself or others?
[23:54] <PurpZeY> Andres22_rio4: looks like it is pointing to a server going to echo the output of that command....Ask in #bash for more details
[23:54] <sverige> me and a few friends
[23:54] <sverige> maybe max 10 user
[23:55] <Andres22_rio4> thanks!
[23:55] <flyback-> hmm
[23:55] <c0nka16> i need help i installed ubuntu with the altenative disk and when i boot it it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46,4hz
[23:55] <c0nka16> h-46.4hz*
[23:55] <flyback-> default flash reader gnash didn't work and hung the box
[23:55] <zcat[1]> !res
[23:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:55] <PurpZeY> c0nka16: Sounds like your monitor is not configured right
[23:56]  * n00dle noticed that a kernel upgrade broke his sound, reverted to the previous kernel, and now hibernate(s2disk)/resume stopped working. :( no clues from logs.
[23:56] <flyback-> default java replacement gcj doesn't work for shit
[23:56] <PurpZeY> See above
[23:56] <astro76> sverige, well one easy way is to just give them accounts on your machine and just use ssh/sftp, assuming you trust them somewhat, though without sudo access they can't really do anything anyway
[23:56] <sverige> hmm is it better to install the server version on my machine as it old and i properly use it for ddclient, ftp, firewall, ssh
[23:56] <randorfer> fsufitch hrm, not sure what it is going to be for buntu maybe nickrud can give some insight, should be something on the lines of gtk2-window-decorator --replace I believe
[23:56] <aszwet1> got a question on creating a headless torrent seedbox
[23:56] <flyback-> gnome developers feel that applications stealing focus is not something to fix
[23:56] <IdleOne> Seveas: google doesnt seem to return any useful results for linux+vuescape digital camera
[23:56] <PurpZeY> sverige: The two versions are almost identical
[23:56] <flyback-> and the default pdf reader ate all my ram and nearly hung the box
[23:56] <flyback-> I feel like I am back in win95 days
[23:56] <IdleOne> Seveas: google doesnt seem to return any useful results for linux+vuescape digital camcorder
[23:56] <c0nka16> purpzey, how do i configure it
[23:56] <PurpZeY> sverige: The major difference is the inclusion of ubuntu-desktop package
[23:56] <flyback-> I wish ubuntu would stop using "free" software if it's broken to death
[23:56] <sverige> the server version doenst have the gui
[23:56] <PurpZeY> !res | c0nka16
[23:56] <ubotu> c0nka16: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:56] <aszwet1> i have xubuntu installed and installed torrent flux, that is running fine, but now it's samba and some other stuff i have questions with
[23:57] <flyback-> seems they are choosing politcs over functionality
[23:57] <aszwet1> and getting the server set up right
[23:57] <nickrud> fsufitch, I'd expect gkt-theme-switch to write a ~/.gtkrc-* file, which would define what theme you're using. Set and forget
[23:57] <aszwet1> like filesharing and what not
[23:57] <IdleOne> !ot | flyback-
[23:57] <ubotu> flyback-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:57] <zcat[1]> flyback-: other ppl grumble that they use any nonfree software at all..
[23:57] <flyback-> ok :)
[23:57] <orphean> oh debian
[23:57] <sverige> but isnt ftp faster download than ssh_
[23:57] <sverige> ?
[23:58] <nickrud> flyback-, they make it easy to install the non-free stuff, unlike some other projects though
[23:58] <Seveas> sverige, usually the other way around, ssh can compress
[23:58] <fsufitch> hm
[23:58] <sverige> oh i c
[23:58] <flyback-> true but if you guys want to suceed you can't piss people off the first time
[23:58] <sverige> so just use sftp
[23:58] <Seveas> !ot | flyback-, nickrud
[23:58] <ubotu> flyback-, nickrud: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:58] <sverige> that should be just as fast as ftp_
[23:58] <sverige> ?
[23:58] <flyback-> i';m trying to join
[23:59] <zcat[1]> some things like nvidia drivers and flash there just isn't a viable free alternative yet... and ubuntu does make these things really easy to install.. they only nag you a little about it :)
[23:59] <flyback-> someone just made a comment
[23:59] <flyback-> ok
[23:59] <aszwet1> how does file sharing work on the server version... can you map it to your computer to open it just like another folder?
[23:59] <astro76> sverige, yes, with this approach they would have accounts with their own /home directories
[23:59] <kr00l> Can anyone help me with a printer problem
[23:59] <flyback-> but since this is a help channel
[23:59] <astro76> sverige, you could use group permissions to control shared resources
[23:59] <PurpZeY> !ask | kr00l
[23:59] <ubotu> kr00l: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:59]  * nickrud wonders how pointing out that software is available is not support ;P
[23:59] <flyback-> is there any way to tell applications trying to steal focus in gnome to f*** off
[23:59] <sverige> i c sounds really good
[23:59] <astro76> !language | flyback-
[23:59] <ubotu> flyback-: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:59] <gilberto> ciao a tutti
[23:59] <aszwet1> is there a way to set up the file sharing kinda like in windows network, where you have shared folders across the network?
[23:59] <Seveas> !it | gilberto
[23:59] <ubotu> gilberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:59] <kr00l> I have a printer problem?
[23:59] <sverige> how do i get a nts share to work or a linux share to work