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| === Elly is now known as Elly-latitude | ||
| === Elly-latitude is now known as Elly | ||
| * lamont2 grumbles at this stupid computer | 02:45 | |
| StevenK | [13:41] -!- lamont2 is Jennifer | 02:46 |
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| ion_ | If it were intelligent, it might grumble at you. | 02:46 |
| lamont2 | StevenK, yeah - I'm helping my wife's friend | 02:46 |
| StevenK | Ahh | 02:47 |
| lamont2 | stupid thing is refusing to read DVDs - throws I/O errors left, right, and sideways | 02:47 |
| lamont2 | 00:07.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-756 [Viper] IDE (rev 03) | 02:49 |
| lamont2 | I think I'll boot back up into -14.47 and (1) see if that makes a diff, and (2) actually look at the boot log | 02:49 |
| lamont2 | back in a few | 02:50 |
| vlowther | quick question: when did Hardy switch from the old /etc/acpi power management scripts to using hal/pm-suspend and friends? | 02:53 |
| mjg59 | When hal 0.5.10 got uploaded | 02:53 |
| vlowther | ... a couple of days ago, I assume? I need to tell pm-suspend to stop messing with the video adaptor (nvidia on a laptop does not appreciate something else posting it or messing with VBE) -- where are those conf files? | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | No, a couple of months ago | 02:55 |
| mjg59 | Using the non-free driver? | 02:56 |
| vlowther | of course. It does not work at all with nv. :/ | 02:56 |
| mjg59 | It's likely that we should just leave things up to the nvidia kernel module if it's loaded | 02:56 |
| mjg59 | I'll look into handling that | 02:56 |
| vlowther | ya -- in the mean time, though, config files/gconf keys? | 02:57 |
| lamont2 | Jan 3 19:53:25 jennifer-desktop kernel: [ 142.189950] ide: failed opcode was: unknown | 02:57 |
| lamont2 | le huh? | 02:57 |
| mjg59 | /usr/share//usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/ | 02:57 |
| mjg59 | Erm. | 02:57 |
| mjg59 | /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/ | 02:57 |
| vlowther | ok | 02:58 |
| vlowther | danke | 02:58 |
| * lamont2 considers the option of replacing the computer with something newer than a k7-600 and bringing this one home to debug | 02:59 | |
| * lamont2 tries checking the UI^)^ strapping on the drives. :-) | 03:00 | |
| * lamont2 tickles Hobbsee | 03:00 | |
| * Hobbsee tickles lamont back | 03:02 | |
| vlowther | mjg59: how about a bug with a patch that works around the issue for now? | 03:06 |
| vlowther | mjg59: bug #180250 filed against hal. The attached patch Works For Me (tm). | 03:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180250 in hal "system fails to resume in Hardy with non-free nvidia driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180250 | 03:20 |
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| mjg59 | vlowther: Hm. I'd rather put that in pm-utils itself, I think | 03:32 |
| mjg59 | vlowther: Very similar code, but in pm/hooks/99video | 03:33 |
| vlowther | mjg59: sorry, where? | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | heh, pitti got hit by a lp bug last night. same as the one found at christmas | 03:55 |
| somerville32 | for a second I read bus... | 03:56 |
| * lamont arrives home | 03:58 | |
| lamont | hi Hobbsee | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | somerville32: hmm, I did too | 04:14 |
| StevenK | PONIES | 04:14 |
| * StevenK works on LaserJock's complex | 04:14 | |
| LaserJock | StevenK: for goodness sakes ;-) | 04:23 |
| lamont | StevenK: PONIES???? kewl! | 04:23 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: yes, ponies! | 04:24 |
| ScottK | Did someone say Ponies? | 04:25 |
| * LaserJock hides | 04:27 | |
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| CarlFK | send host-name "<hostname>"; is no longer in dhclient.conf - is there somewhere I can see why? | 05:09 |
| === Vorian_ is now known as vorian | ||
| === m1ke is now known as m1ke_away | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 06:42 |
| StevenK | pitti: Hi! Could I convince you to sync bug 180274? | 06:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180274 in bluez-libs "Please sync bluez-libs (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180274 | 06:44 |
| * pitti NEWs the kerrnel | 06:44 | |
| pitti | StevenK: sure | 06:44 |
| StevenK | pitti: Thanks | 06:44 |
| pitti | StevenK: I'll process all syncs today anyway, but let me do this one first if it's urgent | 06:44 |
| StevenK | pitti: Nah, not urgent, just want it done | 06:45 |
| StevenK | pitti: I'm about to go out to the movies. If it's published and built when I get back, I'll be happy. :-) | 06:45 |
| pitti | enjoy! | 06:46 |
| StevenK | pitti: Thanks :-) | 06:48 |
| tjaalton | pitti: good morning, would you consider doing some promotions to main (xserver-xorg-video-openchrome, considered to replace -via as default, and xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse)? | 06:57 |
| pitti | tjaalton: please file a main promotion bug to leave some paper trail, I'll have a look at them | 07:02 |
| pitti | tjaalton: they sound fine, I don't expect that a MIR wiki page will be necessary | 07:02 |
| tjaalton | pitti: bug 69780 for vmmouse | 07:03 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 69780 in xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse "Vmmouse package should be in main instead of universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69780 | 07:03 |
| tjaalton | I'll file one for openchrome, thanks! | 07:03 |
| * Fujitsu hopes they don't have arch-indep bits. | 07:05 | |
| tjaalton | Fujitsu: what do you mean? | 07:07 |
| tjaalton | pitti: bug 180277 for openchrome | 07:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180277 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome "Please promote openchrome to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180277 | 07:07 |
| Fujitsu | tjaalton: Well, there's this nice Soyuz bug #178102. | 07:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178102 in soyuz "(Pro|De)motion loses arch: all binaries" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178102 | 07:08 |
| tjaalton | Fujitsu: ah, no they all should be arch: any | 07:08 |
| tjaalton | well, vmmouse is arch: i386 amd64, but anyway :) | 07:09 |
| tjaalton | (which I think openchrome should be as well) | 07:10 |
| tjaalton | pitti: I'm out for the most of the day, so I hope that's all you need :) | 07:10 |
| tjaalton | gone -> | 07:10 |
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| === pitti is now known as pitti_ | ||
| slangasek | pitti: congrats on the db4.3,db4.4 demotions; but do you know why db4.2 and db4.3 packages are seeded in server-ship? | 08:03 |
| pitti | slangasek: hysterical raisins; I'm just at fixing that | 08:03 |
| slangasek | ok :) | 08:04 |
| pitti | so we'll soon have just 4.2 and 4.6 | 08:04 |
| slangasek | \o/ | 08:05 |
| pitti | we might ignore the performance issue on openldap and just convert that to 4.6, too, but I'd rather have Debian's consent for that | 08:05 |
| slangasek | pitti: I think that's a pretty poor trade-off in an LTS, given how much attention there was on LDAP at UDS | 08:06 |
| pitti | right | 08:06 |
| slangasek | we've more or less decided in Debian to postpone the switch to db4.6 for OpenLDAP until there's a resolution of the performance issue, which I'm told is pretty severe | 08:07 |
| pitti | I read it in the bug, yeah (factor 2 on some operations) | 08:07 |
| slangasek | hmm, should get around to uploading that one of these days though so we can knock libldap2 off the todo list :) | 08:08 |
| pitti | slangasek: I just wonder why the client lib needs libdb, too | 08:08 |
| pitti | both openldap2{,.3} b-dep on libdb4.2-dev | 08:09 |
| slangasek | oh, I'm pretty sure the client lib doesn't need it | 08:10 |
| slangasek | but the openldap2 package is abandonware :P | 08:10 |
| slangasek | and was only minimally stripped down to build the client lib without the rest of the binaries when slapd was moved | 08:10 |
| pitti | ok, seeds updated to drop db4.[23] | 08:10 |
| * slangasek nods | 08:11 | |
| slangasek | hmm, you've switched cyrus-sasl2? does that mean the compatibility issues have been resolved? | 08:13 |
| pitti | slangasek: which issues? it doesn't use transactions? | 08:14 |
| pitti | s/?$// | 08:14 |
| pitti | doko_: what does expect-tcl8.3 [!none !hurd-i386] mean? (gcj-4.2 b-dep); can we drop expect-tcl8.3 now? | 08:14 |
| pitti | slangasek: in the Debian bug, the DDs didn't generally object to switching | 08:15 |
| pitti | slangasek: Russ just confirmed that db4.6 should perform better for cyrus than 4.2 | 08:15 |
| doko_ | pitti: yes, we can | 08:16 |
| pitti | doko_: anastacia wants it to come back due to that b-dep | 08:16 |
| doko_ | fix anastacia ;-) | 08:16 |
| pitti | well, !none looks like 'true' to me :) | 08:16 |
| doko_ | anyway, I'll upload gcj-4.2 as well | 08:16 |
| pitti | ah, ok; I thought you did already | 08:17 |
| pitti | doko_: thanks muchly | 08:17 |
| slangasek | pitti: there were some concerns specific to compatibility with cyrus-sasl2 raised by folks involved with cyrus-sasl2 maintenance; I'm trying to find a reference | 08:18 |
| slangasek | I don't know why there wasn't an open bug report against cyrus-sasl2 requesting the switch | 08:18 |
| slangasek | (other than people being sloppy because they hate me) | 08:19 |
| slangasek | pitti: heh, yes, anastacia is parsing [!none] correctly... | 08:26 |
| pitti | slangasek: maybe it does, I just personally don't know what !none is good for :) | 08:30 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: probably just as useful as !fish or !fowl | 08:32 |
| pitti | ah, so it's not magic | 08:32 |
| Mithrandir | doesn't look like it, no. | 08:32 |
| doko_ | pitti: [] is a parse error, but [!none] did still work | 08:39 |
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| slangasek | pitti: infuriatingly, I'm not finding anything about sasl/db as far back as 2005 in the mail archive; so I guess we may as well go with it and watch for any bug reports | 08:43 |
| slangasek | doko: it "works", but it means expect-tcl8.3 is a build-dep on all archs; which is the behavior you suggested should be "fixed" in anastacia...? | 08:50 |
| doko | slangasek: yes, that was the meaning I intended; anyway, we don't run the testsuites on hppa anymore, and therefore it's dropped (until lamont fixes expect on hppa) | 08:52 |
| Arelis | Hi all. I made a script in bash that downloads stuff from youtube, pulling all the files from a list, and then gives you the option to convert it to OGG or MP3. Can anybody turn that into a full-fledged, graphical program? This is the script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50688/ | 08:59 |
| doko | pitti: should we address libgif/libungif in ReducingDuplication as well? | 09:01 |
| pitti | doko: there's an ubuntu-archive bug about this transition; yes, I plan to get rid of ungif | 09:01 |
| Chipzz | Arelis: 1) this channel is about development of ubuntu, not with (see topic); not 100% sure, but #ubuntu-motu may be a little more appropriate; 2) mplayer has synchronisation issues with .flv files, not sure if you care about that; 3) no offence meant, but your script looks like a real hack to me (launching nautilus??) | 09:06 |
| Arelis | Chipzz: it still is hacky. That's why i want someone else to turn it into a full-fledged program. And sorry, somebody in #ubuntu-offtopic pointed me here. | 09:08 |
| dan_ | it's not so much 'turn into' as 'why not write a youtube downloader' :) | 09:20 |
| soren | mvo: Any luck with the new kvm? | 09:51 |
| soren | mvo: Remember that kvm-modules puts in diversions and such, so you need to remove kvm-modules-`uname -r`, do the depmod-rmmod-modprobe thing again. | 09:52 |
| mvo | soren: testing now | 09:54 |
| mvo | soren: yeah, works fine again, thanks | 09:56 |
| soren | mvo: Excellent. | 09:59 |
| nenolod | pitti, you about? | 10:14 |
| pitti | nenolod: yes, I'm just closing all your sync requests :) | 10:14 |
| nenolod | pitti, could you look at the ia32-libs thing too? i CC'd you because you were last uploader | 10:15 |
| pitti | nenolod: please define 'ia32-libs thing'? | 10:15 |
| nenolod | one moment | 10:15 |
| nenolod | pitti, #179031 | 10:16 |
| pitti | bug 179031 | 10:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179031 in ia32-libs "lib32/libSDL depends on old libraries and needs to be rebuilt, add libao2 (for zsnes in amd64)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179031 | 10:16 |
| nenolod | i made a debdiff to add libao2, but that's all i can do there | 10:17 |
| pitti | nenolod: "as such, libSDL needs to be rebuilt" -> you mean ia32-libs needs rebuilding? | 10:18 |
| pitti | nenolod: yes, I can do that | 10:18 |
| nenolod | pitti, yeah. also add libao2 at the same time if you could. :) | 10:18 |
| pitti | of course | 10:18 |
| nenolod | thanks | 10:18 |
| StevenK | pitti: Thank you for the sync | 10:21 |
| pitti | StevenK: np; how was the movie? | 10:21 |
| StevenK | pitti: It was great. | 10:21 |
| StevenK | The Golden Compass; I'd read the book about a month ago | 10:22 |
| pitti | (and which one did you watch? don't say Alien vs. Predator!) | 10:22 |
| pitti | aah | 10:22 |
| StevenK | Oh no, Aliens vs Predator is getting a wide berth | 10:22 |
| nenolod | pitti, also if you could do something about bug 179471, it'd be appreciated :P | 10:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179471 in audacious-plugins "Merge audacious 1.4.5-1 and audacious-plugins 1.4.4-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179471 | 10:22 |
| Mithrandir | TGC is a fun movie, albeit a bit too short. | 10:22 |
| StevenK | Mithrandir: Agreed | 10:22 |
| nenolod | i haven't seen the golden compass | 10:22 |
| nenolod | please provide spoilers | 10:23 |
| nenolod | :P | 10:23 |
| StevenK | And they missed the last two chapters of the book | 10:23 |
| Mithrandir | they could have made it ~50% longer and two films instead of three. | 10:23 |
| thom | did they butcher the plot as badly as most reviews have suggested? | 10:23 |
| pitti | nenolod: is it just a sponsoring request or real work to do? | 10:23 |
| nenolod | pitti, it's just a sponsor request | 10:23 |
| Mithrandir | ah, ok. I'm pondering grabbing the books once I'm through my current pile and have some new shelves up. | 10:23 |
| pitti | . o O { random remark: it's just great to have a common Debian/Ubuntu games maintainer team } | 10:24 |
| StevenK | thom: Not by my eyes. | 10:24 |
| nenolod | pitti, we're trying to create a common debian/ubuntu irc packages maintainer team too | 10:25 |
| pitti | nenolod: awesome | 10:25 |
| Company | pitti: having common maintainers between distros is always awesome | 10:26 |
| Company | pitti: even having them talk to each others is a great thing | 10:26 |
| Company | pitti: way too uncommon unfortunately :( | 10:26 |
| * nenolod turned the audacious package around in ubuntu | 10:26 | |
| Company | (this is from my upstream pov btw) | 10:26 |
| nenolod | and i'm sure the debian maintainer finds it useful that i bump the package there too when no changes are needed ;) | 10:27 |
| nenolod | (he added me to uploaders: :)) | 10:27 |
| nenolod | Company, ubuntu is an important platform to me, because i am working on a very cheap computer (kind of like gPC, but much better) that will be based on ubuntu (+ custom artwork and maybe some additional stuff preinstalled) | 10:30 |
| nenolod | Company, so making sure my software works in ubuntu is rather important, as i intend to preinstall it ;) | 10:31 |
| lucas | when did Ubuntu switch to /bin/dash as /bin/sh on the buildds? | 10:43 |
| lucas | infinity: ^^ | 10:43 |
| pitti | lucas: around edgy IIRC | 10:43 |
| lucas | ok, thank you | 10:43 |
| pitti | geser, mvo_: about bug 179876, wouldn't it be better to remove the Ubuntu specific source packages, use Debian's names, and merge? | 11:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179876 in compizconfig-backend-kconfig "[Remove] Please remove compizconfig-backend-{gconf,kconfig} from hardy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179876 | 11:05 |
| pitti | Riddell: do you plan an upload of kdesdk soon? it needs a rebuild for dropping the spurious libdb4.4 dependency | 11:28 |
| pitti | Riddell: I tried building it with -Wl,--as-needed, but that fails | 11:29 |
| Riddell | pitti: nothing planned but I can take a look | 11:32 |
| Riddell | pitti: is that dependency a problem? | 11:33 |
| pitti | Riddell: ok; if not I can trigger a no-change rebuild, too, but it's quite a large set of b-deps and download | 11:33 |
| pitti | Riddell: 4.4 is in universe now; so if kbabel is on the CDs that'll render them uninstallable | 11:33 |
| pitti | if kbabel isn't, then it can wait | 11:33 |
| Riddell | pitti: it isn't | 11:33 |
| Kmos | pitti: do we need debian-maintainers package ? | 11:34 |
| Kmos | it's only in hardy | 11:34 |
| mvo_ | pitti: maybe, I need to investigate how similar/different it is | 11:34 |
| pitti | Kmos: not really | 11:34 |
| Kmos | pitti: can you add it to some filter in auto-sync? :) | 11:34 |
| Kmos | and remove it from hardy | 11:34 |
| pitti | Kmos: I can; please file a removal bug, to have a paper trail | 11:34 |
| Kmos | pitti: one, i will do | 11:35 |
| Kmos | ups | 11:35 |
| Kmos | pitti: ok, i will do | 11:35 |
| Kmos | :) | 11:35 |
| * Hobbsee waves | 11:35 | |
| * Hobbsee hopes for l-u-m soon | 11:36 | |
| thom | pitti: cheers! | 11:38 |
| pitti | hey Hobbsee | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | BenC: ping. can i ask a silly question? | 11:39 |
| Hobbsee | pitti! | 11:39 |
| * Hobbsee hugs pitti | 11:39 | |
| pitti | hi thom, happy new year! what's up? | 11:39 |
| thom | pitti: happy new year mate. was just saying thank you for the puppet sync :) | 11:39 |
| pitti | thom: ah, no problem | 11:39 |
| soren | lamont: Am I imagining things or did you not mention recently that you were working on bug 173868? | 11:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173868 in postfix "postfix-doc unremovable if postfix not installed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173868 | 11:54 |
| lamont | soren: hrm... I was working/fixed the uninstallable if not installed version | 11:57 |
| lamont | I'll have to peek at it again. :( | 11:57 |
| lamont | but for the moment, I'm going to go back to bed for a bit | 11:57 |
| soren | lamont: Ah, ok. | 12:04 |
| soren | lamont: Fair enough. | 12:04 |
| soren | lamont: Can I assign it to you? | 12:04 |
| lamont | soren: sure | 12:06 |
| lamont | postfix-doc cannot use postconf without checking for existance. | 12:24 |
| lamont | Addresses-Ubuntu-Bug: 173868 | 12:24 |
| lamont | Signed-off-by: LaMont Jones <lamont@debian.org> | 12:24 |
| lamont | soren: I do love it when the bugs are trivial. | 12:26 |
| lamont | OTOH, I hate it when I miss something so obvious | 12:26 |
| === cprov-away is now known as cprov-out | ||
| lamont | is it a known feature that (d-i) install on a 1.8 TB partition has issues (while 1.6TB works)? | 12:36 |
| lamont | s/feature/issue/ | 12:36 |
| lamont | "looked like it was fine, then crashed loading the boot loader" | 12:37 |
| ScottK | Good morning pitti. Thanks for all the syncs and backports today. | 12:45 |
| ScottK | pitti: It seems I made a mistake with the clamav backport to feisty and neglected to actually put in the bug which version I was thinking should be backported (entirely my fault). | 12:46 |
| pitti | ScottK: yw; was quite a batch today, holiday lag | 12:46 |
| pitti | ScottK: oh, uh | 12:46 |
| ScottK | pitti: As a result, I just introduced a library transition (libclamav2 -> 3). | 12:47 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 12:47 |
| pitti | ScottK: well, then it'll just get stuck in NEW and I can reject the binaries | 12:47 |
| ScottK | It affects roughly two handfulls of packages. | 12:47 |
| ScottK | Ah.. Cool. | 12:47 |
| lamont | ScottK: re: QMQP_README --> wietse still delivers it in README_FILES, and I deliver everything in that directory | 12:47 |
| lamont | should I specifically drop that file? | 12:47 |
| lamont | (bug 172925 comment of yours) | 12:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 172925 in postfix "postfix upgrade does not add 'retry' service" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172925 | 12:48 |
| ScottK | pitti: After that can the version in gutsy-security be backported? | 12:48 |
| pitti | ScottK: it'll have a lower version number, but since that affects only the source package that should be fine (I can remove the current backport | 12:49 |
| pitti | ScottK: which bug# was it? | 12:49 |
| ScottK | pitti: Bug #177537 | 12:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177537 in clamav "Remote Code Execution" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177537 | 12:49 |
| ScottK | pitti: Thanks. This is what I get for trying to do stuff while on the road for Christmas vacation. | 12:49 |
| ScottK | lamont: Sounds like an upstream issue with either README_FILES or the upgrade script. | 12:50 |
| ScottK | I'm really not sure. | 12:50 |
| lamont | ScottK: OK. it'll magically disappear when Wietse stops delivering it. :-) | 12:51 |
| lamont | I'm tempted to close bug 59268 as fixed in 2.4 as well | 12:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 59268 in postfix "dpkg postinst failed, because it tries to start postfix twice (and does not catch running state)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59268 | 12:51 |
| lamont | stopping twice is, um, a feature. | 12:52 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: is that a feature-feature or a lamont-feature? | 12:54 |
| Mithrandir | :-P | 12:54 |
| ScottK | lamont: Great feature (the stopping twice). The postinst should support the feature then ;-) | 12:55 |
| lamont | it clubs it over the head twice to make sure it really stopped. :-P | 12:55 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: sure you shouldn't remove the rc2.d links and reboot the machine while you're at it? | 12:56 |
| lamont | and no, I'm not sure why it feels the need. | 12:56 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: I suspect that'd get me a grave bug. :-) | 12:56 |
| Mithrandir | (and then run the postinst as an @reboot cron entry) | 12:56 |
| lamont | LOL | 12:56 |
| * Mithrandir goes to take his pills | 12:56 | |
| * lamont goes to turn off the alarm so his wife doesn't notice that he forgot to come back to bed. | 12:57 | |
| elmo | Mithrandir: I think you've had quite enough of those | 12:57 |
| StevenK | elmo: Or not enough | 12:57 |
| Mithrandir | elmo: but they're nice! blue and red and green and all. | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | or nowhere near enough, yes | 12:57 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: it's possible that they're affecting your work performance though... | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | adversely, though? | 12:57 |
| ogra | lamont, do you have any hint for bug 179130 ? (good to see you back btw :)) | 12:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 179130 in livecd-rootfs "Typo in argument parsing and unknown sanitize command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179130 | 12:58 |
| ScottK | pitti: Do you want a comment in the clamav bug from me on the version needed for Feisty or is this conversation good enough? | 12:58 |
| pitti | ScottK: just updated the bug | 12:58 |
| pitti | s/:/: I/ | 12:59 |
| ScottK | pitti: Perfect. Thanks for fixing and sorry for the trouble. | 12:59 |
| pitti | np | 12:59 |
| === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| pitti | nenolod: hm, not sure what you mean with libdirectfb and ia32-libs | 13:11 |
| pitti | nenolod: oh, ignore me, I know what you mean; should be all good now | 13:11 |
| === cprov-out is now known as cprov | ||
| === mvo_ is now known as mvo | ||
| Hobbsee | Kmos: please do not file crap bugs in debian, and admit to being an ubuntu user. thankyou. | 14:20 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: which ones are you talking about ? | 14:21 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=459107 | 14:22 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 459107 in telepathy-qt "New upstream version 0.14.1" [Wishlist,Open] | 14:22 |
| Kmos | what's the problem with that one? | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: the maintainers want to talk to you about it, on oftc, in #debian-qt-kde | 14:23 |
| Kmos | 0.0.2064-1 is more recent ? | 14:23 |
| Hobbsee | Kmos: do you know the address? | 14:24 |
| Kmos | Hobbsee: yes.. | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | cool | 14:24 |
| Hobbsee | they're waiting | 14:24 |
| dcotruta | hello all | 14:28 |
| dcotruta | anyone care to lend a hand with a driver problem (i want to extend an existing driver) | 14:29 |
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| soren | doko: Should the new icedtea-java7 upload have any effect on bug 152362 ? | 15:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 152362 in icedtea-java7 "icedtea-java7-plugin always crashes firefox" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152362 | 15:26 |
| doko | soren: I don't know | 15:26 |
| soren | doko: Heh :) | 15:26 |
| soren | doko: I'll wait for it to build and let you know, then . | 15:27 |
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| pitti | ScottK: clamav> ok, I think I got it now | 15:45 |
| tkamppeter | anyone of the OOo guys around? | 16:12 |
| pitti | hi tkamppeter, happy new year! | 16:17 |
| tkamppeter | pitt, thanks, also happy new year! | 16:27 |
| tkamppeter | OOo seems not to have been updated for Alpha 2, a full updatre of Hardy still wants to remove it. | 16:28 |
| pitti | known problem | 16:33 |
| _MMA_ | tkamppeter: calc was working on some issues when I talked to him last. | 16:33 |
| tkamppeter | calc? Are you here? | 16:34 |
| tkamppeter | is anyone of you using an up-to-date Hardy with OOo? How did youy proceed to set it up? | 16:35 |
| stgraber | tkamppeter: execute soffice, then open your document | 16:35 |
| tkamppeter | So I do the "apt-get dist-upgrade" and after it has removed the two OOo packages "soffice" is still there? | 16:36 |
| stgraber | tkamppeter: IIRC, yes :) | 16:40 |
| stgraber | tkamppeter: I remember of a dist-upgrade removing tons of OpenOffice packages but soffice still working after that | 16:40 |
| stgraber | tkamppeter: but I did that dist-upgrade at least a week ago (probably two) | 16:40 |
| tkamppeter | stgraber thank you, I have set up a new laptop by installing a Gutsy live CD and now I am upgrading it to Hardy, to use it for the Ubuntu development. | 16:42 |
| tkamppeter | Does this also mean that the OOo packages in question were not present on Alpha 2? | 16:43 |
| stgraber | well, ubuntu-desktop depends on -writer, -calc, -gnome and -impress | 16:45 |
| stgraber | those are installed so everything is fine | 16:45 |
| stgraber | what isn't is openoffice.org itself as it depends on openoffice.org-base which causes a conflict (libhsqldb-java) | 16:46 |
| tkamppeter | And what are openoffice.org and openoffice.org-base good for then? | 16:48 |
| stgraber | looks like openoffice.org-base is broken (or libhsqldb-java), so ones this one is fixed you should be able to install openoffice.org and all its depends | 16:50 |
| tkamppeter | stgraber, do you know which functionality of OOo is in the packages openoffice.org-base and openoffice.org? | 16:58 |
| stgraber | it's the base interface IIRC (sort of Access-like module) | 16:59 |
| tkamppeter | So it is only for databases? | 16:59 |
| stgraber | I think so (never played with that part of OOo) | 17:00 |
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| calc | tkamppeter: yes | 17:29 |
| calc | tkamppeter: base is just for database stuff, openoffice.org is just a metapackage | 17:30 |
| tkamppeter | Thank you calc | 17:32 |
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| pitti | calc: libcommons-lang-java FTBFSed, can you please have a look? I need to leave now | 18:30 |
| pitti | You must specify a valid ANT_HOME directory! | 18:30 |
| pitti | calc: ^ yay for Debian doing binary uploads :/ | 18:31 |
| pitti | calc: seems trivial to fix | 18:31 |
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| ion_ | Re: the hassle with flashplugin-nonfree every time a new upstream version is released (LP #173890), has anyone tried to convince Adobe/Macromedia to release the separate versions at separate URLs? | 19:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173890 in flashplugin-nonfree "flashplugin-nonfree fails to install... new version?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173890 | 19:30 |
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| ScottK | ion_: Even if they released different versions, if you don't run the latest, you're stuck with multiple unfixed security bugs. | 20:27 |
| ion_ | scottk: The Ubuntu package isn’t going to be able to download the latest package *anyway* until it gets updated as well. That leaves a period of time when flashplugin-nonfree is not installable. | 20:44 |
| ion_ | (Since it gets the “wrong” tarball from the site) | 20:44 |
| ScottK | True. | 20:45 |
| ScottK | I suppose that it one good reason. | 20:46 |
| ScottK | If course not installable makes the SRU justification easier ;-) | 20:46 |
| persia | ScottK: Well, yes, except for regression risks (like the current konqueror breakage) | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Yes, but given the security issues, I think we'd have no choice but to update anyway. | 20:47 |
| persia | Scylla and Charybdis | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Pretty much. | 20:48 |
| ScottK | persia: Do you know if bzip .debs are OK in Ubuntu yet? | 20:49 |
| Ubulette | persia, fyi, i'm done with prism-webapps. problem is, i don't know what to do with icon licenses | 20:49 |
| Ubulette | oops, wrong channel | 20:49 |
| persia | ScottK: dpkg changelog says lzma is fine (since 1.14.12ubuntu3) and .bzip2 as well (since 1.10.24). | 20:51 |
| dmb_ | i think the best solution would be to work out the problem with adobe, and have them create versioned tars | 20:55 |
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| * \sh 's doomed...same error running debootstrap on hardy as last time | 21:43 | |
| \sh | /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 317: cannot create /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null: No such device or address | 21:43 |
| Chipzz | what version of python will hardy ship with? 2.5? | 21:45 |
| persia | Chipzz: At least 2.4 and 2.5 will be included. | 21:46 |
| \sh | yay for bug #180157 | 21:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180157 in debian-installer "XFS root filesystem - install fails with "noexec or nodev" error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180157 | 21:51 |
| \sh | every partition of my system is xfs, but not /boot so I'm fcked | 21:52 |
| persia | Um. Shouldn't the install fail when trying to push to noexec? I'd think nodev also. | 21:52 |
| slangasek | clearly, the install does fail? :) | 21:54 |
| \sh | slangasek: the install does fail....check the bugreport...I added now debootstrap to it... | 21:54 |
| \sh | root@home-emt64:/home/shermann# debootstrap hardy hardy_chroot/ | 21:54 |
| \sh | /usr/sbin/debootstrap: 317: cannot create /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null: No such device or address | 21:54 |
| \sh | E: Cannot install into target '/home/shermann/hardy_chroot' mounted with noexec or nodev | 21:54 |
| \sh | /dev/sda6 on /home type xfs (rw) | 21:55 |
| \sh | /dev/sda5 on /var type xfs (rw) | 21:55 |
| \sh | is my home partition...mounted without noexec, nodev...so it should work...but it's xfs | 21:55 |
| \sh | or do I understand this errormsg not correctly...and it needs noexec, nodev? ,-) | 21:55 |
| slangasek | if you try to run "mknod /home/shermann/test-dev-null c 1 3" directly, you get that same error I guess? | 21:56 |
| \sh | no | 21:57 |
| slangasek | it needs to not have either of noexec and nodev | 21:57 |
| slangasek | if the xfs filesystem defaults have changed, that's nutty, but in that case you could try mounting it with "exec,dev" | 21:57 |
| slangasek | \sh: you /don't/ get that error? | 21:58 |
| * persia is confused, and suspects xfs trickery | 21:58 | |
| \sh | slangasek: doing the mknod I don't get any error...but I think I need to check the $? | 21:58 |
| slangasek | so do you get a different error, or a successful device creation? | 21:58 |
| \sh | slangasek: there is no device created..so I think it returns $?=1 (me needs to check) | 21:58 |
| slangasek | you should get an error message if it fails, AFAIK | 21:59 |
| \sh | slangasek: no..the error message comes from debootstrap...mknod failes silently it seems | 21:59 |
| slangasek | for that matter, if I remount my ext3 /home with "nodev", I can still create devices, I just can't use them :) | 22:00 |
| \sh | slangasek: well, fact is, /home or /var are not mounted with noexec,nodev, so when I do a -o remount,exec,dev I only see in my mount output "(rw)" ... now trying the other way around | 22:01 |
| \sh | yuck...una momenta | 22:01 |
| \sh | ok... | 22:02 |
| \sh | now...mknod works | 22:02 |
| \sh | device is created | 22:02 |
| persia | \sh: patch XFS to have sane defaults :) | 22:02 |
| \sh | but /usr/share/debootstrap/functions: check_sane_mounts() doesn't work | 22:03 |
| slangasek | what did you have to change to get the device created? | 22:03 |
| \sh | slangasek: mount /home/ -o remount,exec,dev | 22:03 |
| \sh | but by default it's already exec,dev | 22:04 |
| slangasek | and yet somehow not? :) | 22:04 |
| \sh | slangasek: mknod /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null c 1 3 works as expected...(the first time I checked in the wrong dir) | 22:04 |
| slangasek | ah | 22:05 |
| \sh | slangasek: but inside debootstrap it doesn't work somehow...I have to check why not...trying to play with the code in check_sane_mounts manually | 22:05 |
| slangasek | so what happens if you run 'echo test > /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null; echo $?' after that? | 22:05 |
| \sh | root@home-emt64:~# echo "test" > /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null ; echo $? | 22:06 |
| \sh | -su: /home/shermann/hardy_chroot/test-dev-null: No such device or address | 22:06 |
| \sh | 1 | 22:06 |
| slangasek | well, there you go | 22:06 |
| \sh | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 1, 3 2008-01-04 23:02 test-dev-null | 22:07 |
| slangasek | so xfs appears to have a problem with devices | 22:09 |
| slangasek | not an installer or debootstrap bug then, but an xfs bug | 22:09 |
| \sh | slangasek: so a kernel problem | 22:10 |
| slangasek | yes | 22:10 |
| \sh | ok..I'll add our kernel package to bug #180157 and mark the other packages as invalid and adding our testcase | 22:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180157 in debootstrap "XFS root filesystem - install fails with "noexec or nodev" error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180157 | 22:11 |
| \sh | what is the source package name for our linux image? | 22:18 |
| \sh | linux-source-2.6.24? | 22:18 |
| ScottK | \sh: No source. Just linux- | 22:19 |
| LaserJock | ? | 22:22 |
| Lure | can somebody give-back kdepimlibs (now that kde4libs built)? | 22:22 |
| ScottK | Riddell can do it, can't he? | 22:23 |
| Lure | ScottK: I think not, he is not on launchpad-buildd-admins team | 22:25 |
| Lure | ScottK: ENOHOBBSEE ;-) | 22:26 |
| ScottK | Ah. Right. Need a buildd admin, not an archive admin. | 22:26 |
| \sh | so bug #180157 should be corrected now..assigned the kernel team | 22:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180157 in linux "XFS root filesystem - install fails with "noexec or nodev" error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180157 | 22:27 |
| \sh | time for some nicotine | 22:28 |
| \sh | slangasek: thx for tracking this down :) | 22:28 |
| * slangasek nods | 22:30 | |
| \sh | now for a quick solution of this problem | 22:30 |
| \sh | what's a good and fast fs for a 500GB drive? | 22:31 |
| Lure | \sh: raw disk ;-) | 22:31 |
| slangasek | ext3 is the only fs I use | 22:31 |
| slangasek | I've used xfs in the past, but got tired of seeing files full of zeroes | 22:31 |
| sladen | my tmpfs is faster than your xfs | 22:32 |
| Lure | slangasek: same here :-( | 22:32 |
| sladen | (and has the same affect on files post-boot) | 22:32 |
| \sh | slangasek: well, playing with storage sizes like >5TB ext3 is a pain..and xfs is fast for this... | 22:32 |
| Lure | you just cannot trade reliablity for performance if you care about your data | 22:32 |
| slangasek | \sh: 500GB <= 5TB | 22:33 |
| \sh | slangasek: yeah...but my 500GB drives are coming out of a system with 5TB ;) | 22:33 |
| \sh | writing inode-tables: xxx/3727 | 22:33 |
| \sh | there is still one drive which I need to send to imbrandon | 22:34 |
| \sh | ok..with ext3 it works now | 22:38 |
| imbrandon | :) | 22:52 |
| smarter | Hi | 22:59 |
| smarter | are the scripts to generate the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/i18n/Translation-xx files from the .po files available? | 22:59 |
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