[00:00] <gilberto> come faccio ad andare?
[00:00] <zcat[1]> flyback-: ummmm avoid running those applications? :)
[00:00] <PurpZeY> kr00l: What is the problem
[00:00] <flyback-> zacat not acceptable
[00:00] <sverige> been trying to share a linux share but it doesnt seems to work
[00:00] <PurpZeY> !it | gilberto
[00:00] <astro76> !nfs | sverige
[00:00] <ubotu> sverige: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[00:00] <flyback-> too many of them
[00:00] <Seveas> flyback-, so you say three things in here and all three things are met with disapproving reactions from ops... please behave
[00:00] <zcat[1]> what apps steal focus anyhow.. never really had an issue with that myself
[00:00] <sverige> okey thanks i check it out
[00:00] <IdleOne> Seveas: could /dev/video0 be called anything else?
[00:00] <n00dle> How do I fix hibernate/resume after it broke, having had to downgrade the kernel to get sound working again? (Kernel doesn't seem to see the hibernate image, or even look for it!)
[00:00] <kr00l> PurpZey: Ubuntu auto installed my printer but when i actually hit print nothing happens and then it goes into the complete pile
[00:01] <sverige> anyone use dyn dns before_
[00:01] <Seveas> IdleOne, /dev/video /dev/video1
[00:01] <fsufitch> randorfer: ~/.fvwm/startup doesn't work
[00:01] <IdleOne> Seveas: no other names it might give?
[00:01] <PurpZeY> kr00l: Are you sure the printer is on/paper/connected all that jazz?
[00:01] <sverige> is ddclient better than the buildin dyn dns on the router?
[00:01] <EADG> Any recommendations for a gui avi to mp4 program?
[00:01] <kr00l> PurpZey: yes it's on
[00:01] <Seveas> IdleOne, not that I know, but I'm very far from omniscient, especially when it comes to webcams
[00:01] <flyback-> think I came to the same conclusion that I did many yrs ago after using linux for many yrs, time to go back to windows, users and opers are still too arrogant in the linux community
[00:01] <astro76> sverige, much better to use a client on your router
[00:01] <flyback-> but thx
[00:01] <PurpZeY> kr00l: And you're sure you have the right driver selected at all that?
[00:02] <sverige> yeah just some one them have been giving me trouble
[00:02] <randorfer> fsufitch, I think this pertains to your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=496539
[00:02] <PurpZeY> You are welcome, thank you for shopping at we don't cost anything mart, have a nice day.
[00:02] <zcat[1]> kr00l: in my experience, someone forgot to give cups all the permissions it needs to work properly.. I forget the fix.. but yes, it's broken, badly, for some printers!
[00:02] <Seveas> PurpZeY, :)
[00:02] <IdleOne> Seveas: well I dont see any /video* there are a few /vcs but dont know what that is
[00:02] <kr00l> PurpZey: yeah it's a HP LaserJet 1020
[00:02] <sverige> reset or uppgrade the firmware?
[00:02] <astro76> sverige, since your router knows when the IP changes it can update immediately
[00:02] <dfcarney> flyback-: it's your choice. linux will be here when you come crawling back :)
[00:02] <Seveas> IdleOne, not webcam :)
[00:02] <astro76> sverige, maybe, what do you have?
[00:02] <sverige> i have a dlink
[00:02] <dfcarney> flyback-: in all seriousness, vista is quite a downgrade from XP
[00:03] <zcat[1]> not sure if a later upgrade fixed it, but I had to do some hardcore guru stuff in root to make my printer print.
[00:03] <IdleOne> Seveas: also have a few usbdev*
[00:03] <sverige> vista is pos
[00:03] <steven__> i cant get flash to work with firefox.. i installed flashplugin-nonfree from inside firefox, but for some reason when i go to a site, it still says i need to install it, i try installing it again, it says its already installed...
[00:03] <randorfer> dfcarney:  to be fair that is not true if you have a computer that can handle it, i.e. atleast 2 gigs of ram
[00:03] <lhoerste> !dialup
[00:03] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[00:03] <Seveas> !ot | sverige
[00:03] <ubotu> sverige: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:03] <pvl> what are the key combinations to 'show desktop'
[00:03] <zcat[1]> steven__: flash packahe is broken.....
[00:03] <zcat[1]> !flash
[00:03] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:03] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:03] <Alex_Gaynor> Where do I download gedit plugins to?
[00:03] <Seveas> pvl, by default there's no keycombo for that but you can set one
[00:04] <Dandre> hello
[00:04] <pvl> Seveas, k thanks
[00:04] <PurpZeY> kr00l: Check out this guide: http://stepien.com.pl/2006/09/23/install-your-hp-laserjet-1020-on-ubuntu/
[00:04] <dfcarney> randorfer: i beg to differ.  i have to use it at work and i have a system that more than meets it's "minimum" requirements.  XP, with some additional applications, can do everything that i need and more.
[00:04] <zcat[1]> soffy for typos.. I helped a guy last night with a very new and very unsupported nvidia card.. he paid me partly in burbon.... yummy!
[00:04] <sverige> exit
[00:04] <dfcarney> randorfer: anyhow, this is off-topic :)
[00:04] <Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE>  Me Gargoyle. ME ROAR.
[00:04] <Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE>  If you are a Gargoyle raise your hand. *raises hand*
[00:04] <Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE>  Me am a GARGOYLE.
[00:04] <astro76> !ot | Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE
[00:04] <Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE>  ROAR! For me am a Gargoyle.
[00:04] <ubotu> Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:04] <Seveas> !ot | dfcarney randorfer
[00:04] <PurpZeY> !ot | Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE
[00:04] <ubotu> dfcarney randorfer: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:04] <Dan_Da_GARGOYLEE>  Me am a Gargoyle from the ancient times.
[00:05]  * PurpZeY looks at ops and blinks 
[00:05] <nashk> Is there a way to make a sub device always use the same os identifier/handle. Even if I connect it through a different port.
[00:05] <Dandre> I can't have my ati 1400 card working correctly
[00:05] <Dandre> please help
[00:05] <nashk> ?
[00:05] <lhoerste> Is there a way to set up dialup without an internet connection or another computer?
[00:05] <IdleOne> man I am really disappointed . now I need to go and suffer bug#1
[00:05] <PurpZeY> Dandre: Did you get xgl-xserver working?
[00:05] <randorfer> fsufitch, did that help?
[00:05] <Seveas> IdleOne, I feel sorry for you
[00:05] <zcat[1]> lhoerste: not if you have a winmodem and have to download stuff.. unless you can borrow a plain old serial modem
[00:06] <Dandre> PurpZeY: HOW?
[00:06] <astro76> nashk, you can with udev rules
[00:06] <PurpZeY> !ATI | Dandre
[00:06] <ubotu> Dandre: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:06] <IdleOne> Seveas: I'll keep working on the issue and figure it out sooner or later but I have some videos for my parents of the kids and they really want to see them so.....
[00:06] <Alex_Gaynor> Where do I download gedit plugins to?
[00:06] <MarcoPau> hello, since I upgraded to gutsy I can't print and get this error in the cups' printer page: /usr/lib/cups/backend/mfp failed. Does anybody have a hint?
[00:06] <nashk> astro76, do you know a good resource on the web on how to do this?
[00:06] <gidna> hi
[00:07] <IdleOne> alex-weej: wild guess ./gedit/plugins maybe
[00:07] <fsufitch> randorfer: checking now...
[00:07] <lhoerste> zcat[1]: my friend just called me and knows nothing about Linux but installed Ubuntu and wants to connect via dialup. is that pretty much hopeless then? Ubuntu doesn't support dialup out of the box?
[00:07] <gidna> I've installed flash player 9 but it doesn't run
[00:07] <PurpZeY> Dandre: Unfortunately, I am walking out the door, but the guys in #compiz-fusion are very good with that stuff as well
[00:07] <IdleOne> Alex_Gaynor: wild guess ./gedit/plugins maybe
[00:07] <Seveas> IdleOne, that'd be ~/.gnome2/gedit/
[00:07] <Seveas> :)
[00:07] <IdleOne> alex-weej: sorry
[00:07] <zcat[1]> I provide tech support for linux, xp and osx.. but not vista.. I've had one experience trying to sort out things in Vista. It will be my last for a good long while.. the keyboard marks in my forhead will fade in time, they tell me...
[00:07] <Dandre> if I go to Manager from System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager, the driver is up
[00:07] <alex-weej> YOU WILL BE :P
[00:07] <Dandre> I am on gutsy
[00:07] <PurpZeY> gidna: Flash player is not working right now, it is being fixed. It's not just you. .
[00:07] <fsufitch> randorfer: yeah
[00:07] <IdleOne> Seveas: if you know then why not answer :P
[00:08] <Dandre> upgraded from feisty
[00:08] <fsufitch> but the file formats and stuff are really weird though o.O
[00:08] <Seveas> IdleOne, since I'm not sure it's correct. ~/.gedit will definitely be wrong though
[00:08] <IdleOne> Seveas: ChanServ removes channel operator status from IdleOne hmmm you op me by accident?
[00:08] <gidna> I don't think
[00:08] <gidna> yestarday all was right
[00:08] <Alex_Gaynor> IdleOne: Does .gconf/apps/gedit-2/plugins/ makes sense? nothing is in there but one xml file
[00:08] <Seveas> Alex_Gaynor, that's just the settings
[00:09] <IdleOne> Alex_Gaynor: looks like it might be right
[00:09] <IdleOne> or not
[00:09] <astro76> nashk, not in particular
[00:09]  * IdleOne doesnt know
[00:09] <Dandre> PurpZeY: if I do  fglrxinfo the xserver crashes
[00:09] <Alex_Gaynor> Seveas: I am told that it should be in .gnome2/gedit/plugins but that folder doesn't exist, do I just need to create it?
[00:10] <PurpZeY> Dandre: This is not really my area of expertise, but I highly recommend asking in #compiz-fusion those guys really know that stuff
[00:10] <Dandre> ok
[00:10] <PurpZeY> Dandre: I don't think it's going to be a major issue, I just can't help you too well.
[00:10] <Triplenin> mug: I just tried the 7.1 demo. It worked. I can't remove the ubuntu cd to install drivers from others cds? This is wierd...
[00:10] <Seveas> Alex_Gaynor, checking...
[00:10] <zcat[1]> ot .. but glad I only have nvidia cards :)
[00:10] <PurpZeY> @zcat
[00:12] <snurre> i just installed ubuntu on my 3rd drive (the first two are in a raid array), but grub gives me an error 21 on startup if the raid is plugged in.. anyone know how to fix it?
[00:12] <steven__> ok, so i tried "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" and after a long list of stuff it did that i dont understand i got this "Download done.
[00:12] <steven__> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[00:12] <steven__> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[00:12] <steven__> " any ideas?
[00:12] <zcat[1]> which reminds me, I never got an answer. Is there a nice intel-based AGP card that's known to do all the compiz-fusion and 3d stuff really well in Linux? I'd like to be running less non-free stuff around here.
[00:12] <Alex_Gaynor> Seveas: K, thanks
[00:12] <Flare183> !enterr
[00:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enterr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <Seveas> Alex_Gaynor, yes, it's correct according to the sourcecode :)
[00:13] <Flare183> !enter
[00:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:13] <Seveas> ./gedit/gedit-plugins-engine.c:#define USER_GEDIT_PLUGINS_LOCATION ".gnome2/gedit/plugins/"
[00:13] <Alex_Gaynor> Seveas: Ok, was just making sure Ubuntu was't runnig custom code or something
[00:13] <Zeyelth> !flash
[00:13] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:13] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:13] <randorfer> snurre, that is because when your raid array the setings in grub are incorrect, look at your menu.lst
[00:13] <Seveas> zcat[1], I think intel now has one or two agp cards
[00:14] <rainwalker> why is flash 9 not available for gutsy?
[00:14] <randorfer> snurre, when raid arry isn't plugged in that hard drive is hd0 when it is it probably shows up as hd1 or 2
[00:14] <steven__> yeah sry about that, i didnt realize it was gonna be on more than one line
[00:14] <linduxed> why isnt there a "build" menu in my anjuta?, it seems the entire compiling-part of the app is gone, or is this IDE one without it?
[00:14] <randorfer> snurre, does that help?
[00:14] <snurre> hm, good point.. it's (hd0,1) now, should it be hd(2,1) then?
[00:14] <zcat[1]> Seveas: I've set up linux on a few intel chipsets with onboard 915 video.. generally it didn't work so well. I'd like to support them though since they OSS'd their drivers
[00:15] <Seveas> zcat[1], hmm, I have lots of intel laptops here, works fine :)
[00:15] <randorfer> snurre, yes or maybe hd(1,1) not 100% sure how it deals with raid arrays (if it recognizes them as 1 disk or 2)
[00:15] <zcat[1]> not going to run out and spend $$ unless I know in advance that it works well..
[00:15] <snurre> randorfer: linux sees both drives, but not the array :/
[00:15] <zcat[1]> yeah, probably the latest chips are OK...
[00:16] <snurre> randorfer: another problem i could use some help with :p
[00:16] <randorfer> snuree, also, what mbr is it stored on?
[00:16] <linduxed> could it be an option that i have not installed?
[00:16] <zcat[1]> I'm kinda hooked on nvidias since they work so well, but I feel 'tainted' a bit :)
[00:17] <snurre> the array? it's on the bios
[00:17] <Seveas> zcat[1], nouveau will untaint you :)
[00:17] <randorfer> snurre, no where is grub installed
[00:17] <snurre> randorfer: ah, on the 3rd
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> steven__: The easiest work-around is to use the hardy package.
[00:17] <zcat[1]> how well does that work with things like compiz and urban terror?
[00:18] <randorfer> snurre when you start it up does it give you any options, if it is just failing completely the problem may be deeper than incorrent menu.lst entries
[00:18] <Thoth> can anyone help me configure iptables to work with Azureus?
[00:18] <Seveas> zcat[1], nouveau currently is crap, they're just starting
[00:18] <snurre> randorfer: grub itself seems to work fine, just not loading anything from there
[00:18] <randorfer> snurre ok then it is what i said previously
[00:19] <burzum> Is it possible to access NTFS volumes read / write using linux?
[00:19] <zcat[1]> hehe.. I'll just have to tell my iner stallman to stop bugging me for a bit.. It's gotta work first, then I'll worry about how free it is :)
[00:19] <randorfer> thoth make a rule to open whatever port azureus is using?
[00:19] <Seveas> burzum, yes
[00:19] <dgrant> how much cpu should compiz normally use?
[00:19] <Seveas> 'inner stallman'
[00:19] <Seveas> now that is scary!
[00:19] <Thoth> yea, randorfer
[00:19] <snurre> randorfer: ok, i'll try with hd(2,1), or 1,1 if that doesnt work... btw, do you know how to make the array recognizable by linux?
[00:19] <Thoth> I'm using firestarter
[00:19]  * nickrud considers off topic chatter ;)
[00:19] <Seveas> dgrant, almost none, the graphics card should do it
[00:20] <randorfer> thoth add a policy to the incoming
[00:20] <randorfer> allowing access to whatever port azuerus is accepting stuff on
[00:20] <burzum> Seveas, is it save? Im going to format 500gb with this FS.
[00:20] <Thoth> basically telling it to keep that port open, right?
[00:20] <verb3k> Yet another nickrud smiley :)
[00:20] <burzum> Dont want to use EXT2 again for a dual use disk.
[00:20] <zcat[1]> what fs?
[00:20] <Seveas> burzum, don
[00:20] <drtt> anybody know if ubuntu and iPhone can work together?
[00:20] <thespottedelf> hello
[00:20] <steven__> Odd-rationale ok, how do i use the hardy package?
[00:21] <randorfer> snurre, you need a distro that supports it, not sure if buntu does
[00:21] <Seveas> burzum, I don't have real experience with it
[00:21] <randorfer> thoth yes
[00:21] <thespottedelf> were can i go to get info about running linux on a ppc imac
[00:21] <dgrant> Seveas: yeah that's what I thought
[00:21] <thespottedelf> a g3
[00:21] <Seveas> burzum, but I haven't heard failure stories yet
[00:21] <Thoth> k, thx
[00:21] <dgrant> Seveas: glxgears is running unusually low
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> steven__: First, open Synaptic and *completely* remove the flashplugin-nonfree package.
[00:21] <dgrant> Seveas: does 116 FPS seem unusually low for glxgears to you?
[00:21] <nickrud> verb3k, is that thing still running then
[00:21] <Seveas> dgrant, repeat after me: glxgears is not a benchmark
[00:21] <steven__> Odd-rationale ok thats done
[00:22] <verb3k> nickrud, I think so
[00:22] <dgrant> Seveas: you don't need to repeat that to me
[00:22] <dgrant> Seveas: but I have a feeling my video card is the culprit here
[00:22] <thespottedelf> does anyone know were i can get help with running ubuntu on an imac g3?
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> steven__: Do you have the hardy flash package downloaded?
[00:22] <snurre> randorfer: hm, that would suck then.. 2x 1tb drives, almost full.. dont wanna do anything that doesnt support that :p
[00:22] <verb3k> nickrud, it's funny in fact, especially the random message part
[00:22] <zcat[1]> bah, this machine is running to well.. must be about time to try out a hardy beta :)
[00:22] <steven__> Odd-rationale no, where do i get it? \
[00:22] <snurre> randorfer: if this doesnt work, and ill have to go back to vista, i should just have to unplug the third drive to let the mbr on the array load NTLDR, right?
[00:22] <randorfer> snurre, im not sure id google buntu raid support, I don't run buntu
[00:23] <Seveas> zcat[1], :)
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> steven__: Try this link: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[00:23] <nickrud> verb3k, yes, I see
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> steven__: Are you using 32-bit?
[00:23] <randorfer> snurre thats correct, or just change the boot order in your bios to your raid array intsead of your 3rd hd
[00:23] <zcat[1]> I have the sweetest dual-head compiz-fusion with desklets and socksoff-wallpaper desktop you ever saw...
[00:23] <steven__> Odd-rationale yes
[00:24] <snurre> randorfer: thanks, ill try then.. will probably be back shortly :p
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> steven__: OK, then that is the correct link.
[00:24] <zcat[1]> well perhaps not.. but it's pretty sweet.
[00:24] <Flare183> !flash
[00:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[00:25] <anton__> Hi, I need help installing the newest drivers for Linux 32-bit. Says I need to exit x...why?
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> This might be OT, but are icewm themes compatible with jwm?
[00:25] <steven__> Odd-rationale so just use the package installer with this file?
[00:25] <nickrud> anton__, if that's for the nvidia driver from the site, that's the way they wrote it
[00:25] <zcat[1]> anton__: perhaps because you do need to exit X ?
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> steven__: Yes. Double-click should work. Then restart firefox.
[00:25] <anton__> zcat[1]: Please, no answers like those.
[00:26] <zcat[1]> sorry..
[00:26] <anton__> nickrud: Any other way to update drivers? Like sudo apt-get update?
[00:26] <zcat[1]> because nvidia's binary installer doesn't like replacing files that are actually in use at the time..
[00:26] <nickrud> anton__, what version chip do you have?
[00:26] <anton__> version chip?
[00:26] <anton__> gpu?
[00:26] <nickrud> anton__, like 8800 --- yes
[00:26] <anton__> 6600gt
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> steven__: Does it work now?
[00:27] <zcat[1]> anton__: generally 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new' should see you right.. but it depends how new the card is
[00:27] <anton__> I see. will try. brb
[00:27] <nickrud> anton__, system->preferences->restricted driver, tell it to install the restricted driver. It should choose intelligently
[00:27] <zcat[1]> or just restricted drivers manager and tick the box..
[00:28] <zcat[1]> I am always amuse at ppl that find linux hard simple because they're expecting it to be hard...
[00:28] <anton__> nickrud: I have the restricted driver already
[00:28] <steven__> Odd-rationale ok thanks it works now
[00:28] <zcat[1]> although sometimes there are exceptions
[00:28] <nickrud> anton__, then you should have the latest 3d support that ubuntu provides....   any problems? I'm not an nvidia guy, so ask clearly so someone who is can chime in
[00:29] <zcat[1]> restricted drivers is the preferred option.. then things won't break every time you get a kernel patch..
[00:29] <anton__> just installed World of warcraft and I am experiencing bad performance. Just guessed it could have something to do with drivers. It was worth a shpt. Thanks anyway. :)
[00:30] <zcat[1]> nvidia's installers should be a last resort
[00:30] <portosmx> hola saben y hay un room en español??
[00:30] <zcat[1]> !es
[00:30] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > portosmx
[00:30] <nickrud> anton__, try    glxinfo | grep direct    in a terminal, if it says yes you've got 3d as nvidia provides
[00:30] <maxfreestyle> hey is firefox crashing the whole computer for anyone out thtere
[00:30] <maxfreestyle> it seems to have happened twice randomly to my sister
[00:30] <anton__> nickrud: Yeah, I have direct rendering.
[00:31] <zcat[1]> maxfreestyle: with the flash plugin (particularly on youtube) it often hangs for a muniute or so.. very annoying
[00:31] <anton__> no flaws in graphics or anything, just 0,5 frames per second...
[00:31] <n00bie> how can i convert flac to mp3 ?  (preferably on the command line)
[00:31] <nickrud> anton__, I toyed with wow in wine, but it seemed like too much trouble. I stick with games on windows for simplicity. Works for Me™ :)
[00:31] <zcat[1]> but it doesn't ever 'chast the whole computer' for me...
[00:31] <maxfreestyle> i mean like complete freeze
[00:31] <zcat[1]> Err *crash
[00:31] <maxfreestyle> like the mouse cant move and stuff
[00:31] <zcat[1]> Nope... that's bad.
[00:32] <itson> hey guys, havnt been on linux for almost a year, i have a quick question if u guys want to help me out really fast,
[00:32] <steven__> maxfreestyle i was havving that problem before i reinstalled ubuntu last time, but i believe it was somthjing to do with flash, because every time i went to youtube my interface would crash
[00:32] <zcat[1]> !ask | itson
[00:32] <ubotu> itson: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:32] <maxfreestyle> ok
[00:32] <bio> to get realplayer
[00:32] <bio> when I have the .bin
[00:32] <DrBroccoli> So I installed ubuntu, didn't like and decided to delete the partition it was on, now when I try to turn on my PC, I get a "GRUB load error 17" and it won't move on
[00:33] <bio> I must chmod
[00:33] <Shpook> Does anyone else have issues when both Gnome and KDE are installed?
[00:33] <maxfreestyle> i couldnt find any bug reports online or anything about this so i thought i would go here
[00:33] <bio> what is the syntax for chmod so I can run the binary?
[00:33] <randorfer> n00bie you can just use flac to convert to mp3 if your comfortable with the cli
[00:33] <nickrud> DrBroccoli, you need to boot a windows rescue disk and run    fdisk /mbr , so the boot loader will point at windows
[00:33] <bio> or do you have a better suggestion of what to do to get real content
[00:33] <maxfreestyle> can we install the old trusty and reliable flash plugin?
[00:33] <itson> im trying to setup my network, netsetup or soemthing, im at console, and i cant access X,
[00:33] <anton__> nickrud: Don't want anything to do with windows :P
[00:33] <maxfreestyle> anyone have a good url for it?
[00:33] <randorfer> bio suco chmod +x file
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Shpook: What kind of issues...  There are some quirks I have seen with KDE apps under Gnome
[00:33] <hou5ton> going to install Ubuntu and have an external harddrive to store backups .... how are we doing with the whole "write to NTFS" thing, or should I format it Fat32?
[00:33] <bio> randorfer, thanx
[00:34] <DrBroccoli> Nickrud, when I loaded up the Vista disk and went to the console, the console was at "X:\Source", will this be a problem?
[00:34] <Boglizk> hou5ton: Writing to NTFS works.
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton: ntfs write is quite stable these days..
[00:34] <hou5ton> Boglizk: great ... is it solid now?
[00:34] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. when did I accidentally join #vista?
[00:34] <Boglizk> hou5ton: as Jack_Sparrow said, yeah. Its stable.
[00:34] <Pici> itson: netsetup?  Are you using Ubuntu?
[00:34] <nickrud> DrBroccoli, I know very little about windows .... I use it for games and work but that's about it
[00:34] <Shpook> Jack_Sparrow: The last few times I've had both installed, GTK apps would hang in gnome, programs would crash unexpectedly, and bootup would take forever.
[00:35] <randorfer> hou5ton the ntfs-3g project has done very well and ntfs read / write is very stable
[00:35] <itson> yes Pici
[00:35] <nickrud> DrBroccoli, you could try asking on ##windows
[00:35] <DrBroccoli> Ok, thanks a lot!
[00:35] <Pici> itson: I'm not familiar with that command.
[00:35] <itson> i need to give my network card a IP etc etc..
[00:35] <itson> b/c i have statid ip
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Shpook: I didnt have any of that.  Knoversation when started needed manual F2 to clear the screen and would not let me click it  .. things lke that
[00:36] <itson> static*
[00:36] <Pici> itson: and you are in a tool called netsetup?
[00:36] <Shpook> Jack_Sparrow: Hmm...maybe I'll try again with Gutsy. I havent run both since Feisty.
[00:36] <itson> no Pici, there is no toon installed "netsetup"
[00:36] <jakel1> man gparted takes for freaking ever
[00:36] <linduxed> why does my anjuta have compile...but a greyed out build?
[00:36] <snurre> randorfer: ok, that was a pure nogo :p
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Shpook: Remember.. a backup can make you smile if things go wrong
[00:37] <itson> im trying to see if there is a way to do it w/o using ifconfig
[00:37] <jakel1> it's better when the drive is empty
[00:37] <n00bie> randorfer: how do i do it?
[00:37] <snookmz> does anyone know about Ubuntu run levels, and which run level I should enable IP tables rules?
[00:37] <PirateHead> jakel1: Reformatting takes awhile. You could try the command-line tools, but that's basically what gparted is doing in the first place...
[00:37] <nickrud> snookmz, runlevels 2-5 start
[00:37] <randorfer> snurre:  what happened?
[00:37] <cizarr> is there any similar programs like SocksCap for windows?
[00:38] <pvl> hinogi, how can i get rid of the netowrking icon at the top?
[00:38] <PirateHead> cizarr: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[00:38] <randorfer> snurre:  post your menu.lst and ill look at it
[00:38] <n00bie> randorfer: hold on, i will try to find out on my own :-)
[00:38] <dfcarney> itson: you can always hand modify /etc/network/interfaces
[00:38] <jakel1> PirateHead, i was resizing a partition so i can reinstall ubuntu....   i accidentally installed ubuntu first then windows, and screwed up the bootloader
[00:38] <nickrud> itson, you can use network manager for a static ip, but /etc/network/interfaces works best
[00:38] <snookmz> nickrud: thanks
[00:38] <Shpook> Jack_Sparrow: I have a bad habit of not making it habit to back up. :-)
[00:38] <snurre> randorfer: it seems booting from the separate 3rd drive with the others disconnected works, but im having the blank screen problem on boot..
[00:38] <dfcarney> itson: that's where the actual ethX information is kept
[00:38] <randorfer> n00bie, alright heres a starting place http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652451
[00:38] <linduxed> is there something i should have installed
[00:38] <linduxed> ?
[00:38] <snurre> randorfer: and grub seems to be running even without the 3rd drive
[00:38] <itson> ok, thanks nickrud ill try that really fast.
[00:38] <jakel1> so i deleted the partititon and then i am going to install Ubuntu over, this time as a second installation
[00:38] <ari_stress> morning all :D
[00:38] <Pici> itson: sure, you will have to edit /etc/network/interfaces and add/cahge it to match something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50665/
[00:38] <Pici> itson: Thats part of my file.
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: Easy enough to fix....   try this     /msg ubuntu grub
[00:39] <cizarr> PirateHead: i want to use several applications with socks env
[00:39] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: don't you mean ubotu :)
[00:39] <randorfer> snurre:  what are you trying to do now?  boot to windows?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: I sure do
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: Thanks...
[00:39] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I add a font to ubuntu, I have the TTF for it
[00:39] <jakel1> Jack_Sparrow, yea i already did that... i was here for about 6 hrs working on it, and none of it worked
[00:39] <snurre> randorfer: was trying that, just as a safety backup, but didnt work
[00:39] <jakel1> it almost did...
[00:39] <kitche> Alex_Gaynor: put it in ~/.fonts is one place
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: Windows on first is easier
[00:40] <PirateHead> Alex_Gaynor: add it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/somefolder and then run fv-cache as root
[00:40] <jakel1> yea.. that's what i am doing now....
[00:40] <randorfer> snurre, if you ever need to get back to windows you can just pop in your windows cd and do fixmbr from a command line
[00:40] <pvl> is it possible to get rid of the netowrking icon at the top panel?
[00:40] <iCEifer> anyone know why my resolution is set correctly but the display is not taking up the whole LCD? if I change the refresh rate to 75 HZ it takes up the whole LCD but my LCD says out of range?
[00:40] <randorfer> snurre, or you can just add it to your grub menu
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: When done.. make a backup of your mbr for after the next time you reinstall windows and lose grub.
[00:40] <itson> ty guys, i think that will fix it.
[00:40] <Dyus> anyone have any experience with multiple screens and videocards?
[00:40] <itson> as long as i can get on net i can DL drivers and stuff and ill find my way around. ty
[00:41] <Alex_Gaynor> PirateHead: Do I just stick it in any folder in here?
[00:41] <randorfer> snuure paste your menu.lst and send me a link ill look at it
[00:41] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: look up your native resolution and frequencies
[00:41] <jakel1> i already had windows installed so i deleted the linux partition, and then i am fixing windows mbr then reinstalling Ubuntu (which will take awhile after waiting for the updates and applying all my settings again)
[00:41] <snurre> randorfer: windows is installed on the array, which grub doesnt recognise anyway.. sec, ill post it
[00:41] <jakel1> and hopefully that will fix it
[00:41] <PirateHead> Alex_Gaynor: I made a folder called ryansfonts on my computer.
[00:41] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, 1440x900 at 60Hz
[00:41] <PirateHead> Alex_Gaynor: the exact command to update your cache ought to be "fc-cache -fv
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: Next time burn a copy or /var/cache/apt/archives or use aptoncd...  dont download them twice if you dont need to.
[00:41] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: should be a native modeline in xorg
[00:41] <randorfer> snurre, grub should be able to boot it
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[00:42] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[00:42] <novato_br> what is the channel to programming C on ubuntu ?
[00:42] <PirateHead> novato_br: I don't think there is such a specific channel.
[00:42] <rexy> #c ?
[00:42] <itson> i forgot how to quit vi w/o saving it it something like /q!
[00:42] <notgod> ##c
[00:43] <Dyus>  :q!
[00:43] <itson> yeah it is, .. n/v
[00:43] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, hmmm...what would it say? I don't think I have one
[00:43] <PirateHead> novato_br: Linux programming questions can be answered in ##linux C questions in ##c and Ubuntu questions in #ubuntu
[00:43] <notgod> itson: :q!
[00:43] <zcat[1]> itson: I used to switch to another terminal and kill it..
[00:43] <nickrud> they should modify that factoid to mention the cache won't go above 500megs
[00:43] <Flare183> nickrud: for which factoid?
[00:43] <nickrud> Flare183, aptoncd
[00:44] <Flare183> nickrud: oh yeah i agree
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I Had not heard that...  good to know....
[00:44] <Flare183> nickrud: meaning in which that it won't take up the entrie cd
[00:44] <novato_br> thx, PirateHead
[00:45] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: can u post your xorg.conf?
[00:45] <nickrud> Flare183, yeah, but some people have been upset that they download all this stuff, and plan to put it on a dvd to transfer to another machine and find a lot of stuff is missing
[00:45] <jakel1> OMG.. this technique better freaking work.............   it's been partitioning for about 3 hours now, and then it said 4 minutes left... now it's performing another task which is gonna take 4 hrs according to the estimated time
[00:45] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: and your xorg.log
[00:45] <Flare183> nickrud: yeah i know
[00:45] <PirateHead> jakel1: That is an unusually long time.
[00:45] <dfcarney> jakel1: do you have DMA enabled on that disk?
[00:46] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it's configureable in  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive
[00:46] <jakel1> yes i do
[00:46] <truna> !clone
[00:46] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: It should not take that long.. unless it is relocating/resizing the partition and not just creating one
[00:46] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, sure.... http://pastebin.com/d43f4a852   and where would the log be?
[00:46] <jakel1> Jack_sparrow it is....
[00:46] <ikonia> oops
[00:46] <ikonia> sorry
[00:46] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: /var/log/Xorg.0.log usually
[00:46] <Marfi> Jack_Sparrow!!! /waves
[00:46] <jakel1> it's deleting a partition actually and hence resizing the other one
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jakel1: Then Patience is the word of the day...
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi MArfi
[00:47] <jakel1> yes it is.... i might need to finish this tomorrow then i guess....
[00:47] <rainwalker> jakel1: it'll be worth it
[00:47] <jakel1> cuz i dnt want to be at work much longer
[00:47] <jakel1> oh... i almost forgot....
[00:47] <duli> what por should I have open in my firewall to allow gnome-user-share connections?
[00:47] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, log is at http://pastebin.com/d12c5a1a5
[00:47] <Nrbelex> I need help with a netgear WG111 wireless USB adapter - Ubuntu doesn't recognize it, bcmcutter didn't work and ndiswrapper says the hardware isn't presemt.
[00:48] <itson> what was that file in /etc where u edit DNS info.
[00:48] <Flare183> por?
[00:48] <truna> duli, isnt that take care of by X ?
[00:48] <reaper-x> could someone tell me if "terminal" is the same thing as "shell"?
[00:48] <EduardoSal> hello
[00:48] <duli> oops, port
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> port
[00:48] <Flare183> oh
[00:48] <PirateHead> !wireless | Nrbelex, if you haven't checked already
[00:48] <ubotu> Nrbelex, if you haven't checked already: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:48] <Flare183> k
[00:48] <kitche> itson: resolv.conf
[00:48] <linduxed> one last try:
[00:48] <duli> truna: I don't know
[00:48] <truna> duli, isnt that taken* care of by X ?
[00:48] <linduxed> why does my anjuta have compile...but a greyed out build?
[00:48] <Nrbelex> PirateHead, I have
[00:48] <itson> thanks kitche
[00:48] <jakel1> i know this is a ubuntu channel.... but thought i might ask seeing as i am waiting for my ubuntu machine.  I am currently using openSUSE, and i have a .dmg image i need to burn i was wondering if anyone knew of a tool i could use to burn a .dmg to a CD
[00:48] <jakel1> or well DVD
[00:48] <truna> duli, try and ssh in with the X option and see if it works
[00:49] <jakel1> .dmg is what mac OS X uses for disk images
[00:49] <softwork> hi, errors corrector for Linux?
[00:49] <Flare183> jakel1: i have a dmg to iso converter i think
[00:49] <Eds> Is there a way to make pidgin send offline messages to MSN users?
[00:49] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: also, i'm finding different frequency ranges.. you're just a tad -- over could be the issue
[00:49] <jakel1> Flare183, what is it called?
[00:49] <Dyus> anyone know how to fix the lag when using xinerama with mutiple cards?
[00:49] <PirateHead> !offtopic : jakel1
[00:49] <duli> truna: ok
[00:49] <Flare183> jakel1: dmg2iso
[00:49] <PirateHead> !offtopic | jakel1
[00:49] <ubotu> jakel1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:49] <Flare183> jakel1: yeap i got it
[00:49] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, in xorg.conf?
[00:49] <Flare183> #ubuntu-Flare183
[00:49] <jakel1> PirateHead, gimme a break... i acknowledged it first.... and i have been helping fix problems since like 4pm
[00:50] <jakel1> so sheesh
[00:50] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: yes
[00:50] <Flare183> sorry
[00:50] <AdemoS> woo hoo
[00:50] <AdemoS> thanks for the flash fix guys
[00:50] <nickrud> jakel1, that's less than an hour ....
[00:50] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: take a look at this, and try adjusting your xorg.conf to this...http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=G19LWK&cpc=RECOM  i'd still like to see your log though
[00:50] <jakel1> nickrud i am on EST
[00:50] <KlrSpz> oh my bad didn't see you paste it
[00:50] <nashk> Hi, how can I get udev to always map to the same os handle/id ?
[00:50] <PirateHead> jakel1: Being useful here doesn't give you some special right to ask for support for systems other than Ubuntu.
[00:50] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, log is at http://pastebin.com/d12c5a1a5
[00:50] <nickrud> jakel1, oh, now if it was gmt I'd really be impressed ;P
[00:50] <jakel1> lol....
[00:51] <Flare183> jakel1: join me in there because your talking about offtopic stuff
[00:52] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: yeah sorry didn't see it pasted earlier... also.. look at that log on line 279... it seems maybe you have the wrong BusID set? it's on line 66 of your conf file
[00:52] <reaper-x> could someone please tell me if instructed to run in "shell" does that mean "terminal" or something else? ye olde newbie here
[00:52] <KlrSpz> iCEifer: a lspci | grep -i vga should show you the right pci port
[00:52] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, checking.
[00:52] <Nrbelex> What command tells you you're kernel?
[00:52] <KlrSpz> reaper-x: yes, shell == terminal
[00:52] <nickrud> reaper-x, yes in the terminal. What you see there is the 'shell'
[00:52] <PirateHead> Nrbelex: uname
[00:52] <Flare183> Nrbelex: uname -a
[00:53] <nownot> how do i extract lzm files?
[00:53] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, I got 00:02.0
[00:53] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, and mine is set to "PCI:0:2:0"
[00:53] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, same thing?
[00:53] <kitche> nownot: get lzma installed
[00:54] <PirateHead> !google | nownot
[00:54] <ubotu> nownot: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !info lzma
[00:54] <ubotu> lzma: Default and general compression method of 7z format in 7-Zip program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43-7 (gutsy), package size 118 kB, installed size 288 kB
[00:54] <rainwalker> how can I figure out what my refresh rate should be set at?
[00:54] <PirateHead> rainwalker: I presume the auto-detect must have failed somehow?
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> rainwalker: Easiest is to google the make and model of your monitor
[00:55] <CyD> are there any docs on fixing nvidia up after envy/nvidia.com drivers have been used? it's causing me quite a bit of trouble :/
[00:55] <bio> more ron paul on cspan
[00:55] <rainwalker> PirateHead: It hasn't failed me, but I want to make sure it's right
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD: Envy is a terrible thig to do to your computer
[00:55] <rainwalker> Jack_Sparrow: even if it's a laptop?
[00:55] <CyD> Jack
[00:55] <CyD> Jack_Sparrow: agreed :/
[00:55] <PirateHead> rainwalker: Check the manufacturer's specs, then. The refresh rate should be listed somewhere.
[00:56] <reaper-x> nickrud: ty... that's what I thought but when I enter the text I'm told to type the response I get reads: svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/emerald-themes' svn: PROPFIND of '/emerald-themes': could not connect to server (https://svn.generation.no)
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> rainwalker: then google the laptop make and model
[00:56] <CyD> but it was so necessary in fiesty to get decently new drivers :)
[00:56] <rainwalker> PirateHead: any idea where I could find those? it's kind of an old laptop
[00:56] <starkmjolk> the proliant 8000 won't boot with ubuntu install no matter what I do, but I need to sleep now. Thanks for the help all and good night
[00:56] <y0ke1> hi
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD: Envy had never been necessary...
[00:56] <PirateHead> rainwalker: If the maker is still in business, you might ask their customer service dept.
[00:56] <happy1> can anyone help fix NIC can ping router but nothing on the internet (other PCs can access internet via same router)?
[00:56] <PirateHead> rainwalker: Otherwise, search google, search usenet, look for your user's manual, whatever else.
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD: I run nvidia and feisty.. (still) on this computer
[00:56] <iCEifer> KlrSpz, I have "PCI:0:2:0" and the grep gave me 00:02.0  do I need to change it?
[00:56] <CyD> Jack_Sparrow: well, it was just my uneducated way. I know better now :)
[00:57] <kenro> Bah. For a moment there, I thought I had it.
[00:57] <thechanklybore> happy1: Gateway needs setting most likely
[00:57] <thechanklybore> or nameservers are incorrecr
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD: There is no easy fix...  which is the problem.. If it was easy to undo.. we would not have a problem with people trying it
[00:58] <PirateHead> !envy
[00:58] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:58] <CyD> Jack_Sparrow: thanks much. I was about ready for reinstall on these problem boxes. but oh, on my tv box, i tried beta drivers w/ this 8x series card to see if it would fix overscan issues
[00:59] <CyD> now i want to get rid of those, but I fear i'm up the creek
[00:59] <CyD> thanks for the input Jack_Sparrow, PirateHead
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD: and no paddle in sight
[00:59] <nownot> ok lzma -d **.lzm isnt working .... any help
[00:59] <PirateHead> CyD: good luck. Video drivers suck.
[00:59] <CyD> ty :)
[00:59] <IamTheStig> anyone got a fusionhdtv plus card to tune with w_scan in gutsy?
[01:00] <pvl> anyone know how to remove the networking icon at the top panel?
[01:00] <PirateHead> !anyone | IamTheStig
[01:00] <ubotu> IamTheStig: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:00] <gluonman> I was trying to gedit /etc/fstab in order to override user permissions that was set on a bunch of picture files that had been burned onto a CD by a MAC OSX, and in the process I mistakenly replaced one of the UUID numbers. Does anyone know a method of retrieving my old UUID? It's kind of important
[01:00] <fsckr> what all-in-one is recommended and "works" in ubuntu?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[01:00] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:00] <Krumar> hey, could anyone recommend a good ftp program for linux?
[01:00] <xamox> how can I setup anonymous shares (SMB) in ubuntu? I have it setup now where you have to enter in a username/pword but I want it so you don't have to do it at all
[01:00] <kitche> gluonman: usually a cd has set permissions
[01:00] <PirateHead> Krumar: Gnome comes with FTP support built-in to its virtual file system.
[01:00] <gluonman> kitche, but it was burned on a MAC.
[01:01] <Krumar> ah, yes, thank you
[01:01] <PirateHead> Krumar: Places -> Connect to Server
[01:01] <comicinker> Krumar: kbear or kftp
[01:01] <Eds> Can anyone give me some advice on whether I should use Ubuntu 7.10 or OpenSuSE 10.3?
[01:01] <gluonman> kitche, the default MAC user is 501. I need to be that user to access the files.
[01:01] <Krumar> PirateHead, comicinker i forgot all about that, thanks
[01:01] <gluonman> kitche, I have no idea why MACs do that
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Eds: You will not get an unbiased answer in here...
[01:01] <Vadi> How can I make a .tar.bz2 archive from the terminal? The syntax is a bit confusing.
[01:01] <dusty-sts> man bzip2
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > Vadi
[01:01] <zcat[1]> Eds: you should use fedora!!! ;)
[01:02] <MartianLobster> I just installed g++-4.2,  How do I set up the system so that when I run g++, it runs g++-4.2 ?
[01:02] <Eds> Jack_Sparrow:  I understand that, but I was wondering WHY people prefer it :)
[01:02] <PirateHead> Vadi: First use tar, then use gzip
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Eds: That is more of a discussion topic and needs to go in offtopic
[01:02] <Eds> Okay
[01:02] <kitche> gluonman: umm you can just copy the images over or use gksu <file manager> to access the files
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Eds: thanks
[01:02] <PirateHead> Eds: People here will overwhelmingly tell you that Ubuntu is an excellent operating system. ;-)
[01:02] <notgod> Eds: I doubt you will get an unbiased answer here.
[01:02] <Vadi> Is there no one command?
[01:02] <truna> gluonman, here is another... sudo udevinfo -a -p /sys/blocl/sda
[01:02] <thechanklybore> you can pipe tar through bzip using tar -cjvf
[01:02] <IcemanV9> Eds: depends on what you need ... Ubuntu just WORK(tm)
[01:02] <gluonman> kitche, in order to copy the files, you have to have user permission.
[01:03] <thechanklybore> Vadi: you can pipe tar through bzip using tar -cjvf
[01:03] <kitche> gluonman: that is what sudo powers are for
[01:03] <gluonman> truna, that doesn't work either.
[01:03] <IcemanV9> s/WORK/WORKS
[01:03] <gustavonarea> Hi, I have a dumb question: I'm using the console and I'm getting this message "You have new mail in /home/glm_wms/Maildir/"... How to I read that mail? Thanks in advance
[01:03] <regeya> Eds: you do realize that there may be people here who have never used OpenSUSE
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: If you read the link for backup it has good info on the syntax for tar
[01:03] <thechanklybore> tar -cjvf name.tar.bz2 files
[01:03] <truna> gluonman, that only provides info on your device not to change it
[01:03] <gluonman> kitche, but that doesn't work, because it's not covered by sudo. It's a MAC user permission
[01:03] <Vadi> thechanklybore: thank you, just what I was looking for.
[01:03] <thechanklybore> np
[01:03] <gluonman> truna, right but info that doesn't lead me to anything.
[01:03]  * IcemanV9 kicks cupsd for not working
[01:03] <kitche> gluonman: umm ok then your cd does not use a standard format then
[01:04] <gluonman> kitche, it is a standard format
[01:04] <PirateHead> gustavonarea: That depends on your email reader. Do you know what program is printing that message to the console?
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: INcluding how to exclude your backup so it does not go into a loop trying to putitself inside the tar it is creating
[01:04] <gluonman> kitche, truna, I'm mostly worried now about getting my UUID back.
[01:04] <gluonman> kitche, truna, I mistakenly altered one of the UUIDs when trying to gedit /etc/fstab/
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gluonman: just run the command to get your uuid's
[01:04] <gustavonarea> PirateHead: I'm access that host via ssh; it's not my localhost
[01:04] <zcat[1]> gluonman: tune2fs I believe?
[01:04] <dusty-sts> Does anyone use a logitech webcam under linux (USB one) ?
[01:04] <kitche> gluonman: well cds that are ocne burned should be owned by root:root to get your UUID back it's volinfo I believe or soemthing close to that
[01:04] <gluonman> Jack_Sparrow, what command?
[01:04] <truna> gluonman, why? system will still work with non usage of UUD right?
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > gluonman
[01:05] <PirateHead> gustavonarea: Is it an Ubuntu machine that you're ssh'd into?
[01:05] <rainwalker> arg, I can't find anything
[01:05] <gustavonarea> PirateHead: Debian
[01:05] <zcat[1]> volinfo? hmm.. I used tune2fs.. and for swap I used mkswap and it gave me a UUID of the swapfs it just created
[01:05] <prae> question, does Ubuntu come with KDE or GNOME when you first install?
[01:05] <zcat[1]> prae: gnome
[01:05] <PirateHead> gustavonarea: You'll have to ask your server's admin how to read email. The default mail client on Ubuntu doesn't print those messages, I don't believe.
[01:06] <rainwalker> prae: gnome
[01:06] <axscode> how to check if im capable of XGL or AIGXL?
[01:06] <rainwalker> prae: kubuntu = with KDE
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1]: note.. that changing any partition on a drive, changes all uuid's on that drive...
[01:06] <gustavonarea> PirateHead: it happens with any command, even with programs I created from scratch
[01:06] <zcat[1]> Jack_Sparrow: really?
[01:06] <vocx> !desktop | prae
[01:06] <ubotu> prae: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors
[01:06] <PirateHead> gustavonarea: That sounds like a bug.
[01:06] <gluonman> Jack_Sparrow, still not certain what command to use.
[01:06] <zcat[1]> I thought uuid was per filesystem only..
[01:06] <pvl> is it possible to remove the networking icon at the top?
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1]: Swap might be the only exception to that... but.. yes...
[01:06] <sn00zer> could somebody please take a look at some kernel messages from syslogd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50668/
[01:07] <prae> anyone have any opinion with which environment to go with?
[01:07] <gustavonarea> PirateHead: OK, thanks! By the way, I've seen these messages in Kubuntu too... How can I read them in Kubuntu?
[01:07] <zcat[1]> Jack_Sparrow: will have to run some tests.. I don't believe you :)
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1]: Please do
[01:07] <PirateHead> gustavonarea: It sounds like a problem with the server you're ssh'd into. That being the case, it will happen no matter whether you're on Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Windows, DOS, or anything else.
[01:07] <rainwalker> pvl: are you talking about the signal strength?
[01:08] <wirechief_> zcat[1]: format only changes the partition that you format and the swap
[01:08] <sn00zer> prae: i prefer kde
[01:08] <zcat[1]> If I resize partitons perhaps.. but if I add a new partiton in free space I'm sure it diesn't change the uuod of /dev/sda1 ..
[01:08] <rainwalker> prae: I like GNOME
[01:08] <gustavonarea> PirateHead: oh, OK, thank you very much!
[01:08] <jakel1> gnome kicks ass
[01:08] <zcat[1]> damn my typing is bad :)
[01:08] <jakel1> i wish i was using gnome right now
[01:08] <Celarnor> prae: I like KDE; it doesn't have as much of a memory footprint.
[01:08] <PirateHead> prae: Enlightenment and Xfce are very nice, even though they are not as popular as Gnome and KDE.
[01:08] <prae> did i hear that a new version of KDE is coming out soon?
[01:08] <wirechief_> zcat[1]: to verify use ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:08] <Celarnor> prace: Yeah, KDE4.
[01:08] <Alex_Gaynor> Where are the color schemes that gedit comes with stored?
[01:09] <kitche> zcat[1]: the uuid will change
[01:09] <Celarnor> prae: You can get a livecd with it somewhere.
[01:09] <rainwalker> prae: yep, KDE4
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1]: If you change sda1... all partition uuid's are supposed to be updated... but what do I know..
[01:09] <bio> so, while watching cspan with realplayer, it cuts out within 2-5 minutes and I have to back firefox out and come back in.
[01:09] <sn00zer> prae: i don't like it as much as kde 3 tho
[01:09] <bio> anyone got a clue?
[01:09] <prae> i'm new to linux, coming over from windows
[01:09] <jakel1> prae: kde4 but i wouldn't get it right away
[01:09] <wastrel> ubuntu gusty, hangs when booting into gnome (i have it set to automatically log in) what would cause this?  rebooting the computer often helps but - it's not really something I want to be doing frequently
[01:09] <rainwalker> prae: did you get my pm?
[01:09] <bio> prae, welcome
[01:09] <PirateHead> Alex_Gaynor: You might want to ask in irc.gnome.org or in ##gnome
[01:09] <prae> thanks
[01:09] <jakel1> congratulations on the switch
[01:09] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: doesnt do that for me, on any distributions with 2.6.22 and higher
[01:10] <Alex_Gaynor> PirateHead: Doh, didn't even think of that /facepalm
[01:10] <zcat[1]> hmm.. ok.. apparently I'm wrong.. I thought it was an ID generated at the time of mke2fs / mkswap and would stay the same whatever happened elsewhere on the drive..
[01:10] <Crazy181> i would like to be able to telnet into my machine over my lan anyone know how to set this up
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: Then we need to figure out where the cutoff is...  I have feisty on this box.
[01:10] <Celarnor> Crazy: Is SSH acceptable, or does it have to be telnet?
[01:10] <wastrel> Crazy181: use ssh instead.  install openssh-server and use putty or some other ssh client to connect
[01:10] <sammyhellsyea> hello, i am trying to compile a dvd with a slideshow of images and music playing in the background. A nice menu would be great but isnt necessary. I tried using dvd-slideshow but i couldnt get it to work. Any other ideas?
[01:10] <kitche> Crazy181: telnet is not needed anymore install openssh-server installed
[01:10] <PirateHead> prae: It will be tough. Linux is not Windows linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[01:10] <truna> Crazy181, permanently or just a temporary ?
[01:10] <IcemanV9> prae: you can have gnome AND kde on one box ... play with each one for a while, then use the one that you felt comfortable with
[01:10] <zcat[1]> sammyhellsyea: qdvdauthor
[01:11] <Crazy181> Celarnor:ssh would be fine
[01:11] <truna> Crazy181, dont forget Netcat.. can create a server without programming..
[01:11] <jakel1> well i am gonna get going and i will hope that this gparted is finally done in the morning
[01:11] <jakel1> which it should be
[01:11] <PirateHead> prae: Many KDE users believe that KDE is easier to switch to from Windows and like it for that reason.
[01:11] <Celarnor> Crazy181: apt-get install openssh-server
[01:11] <sammyhellsyea> timothy: noob
[01:11] <PirateHead> prae: On the other hand, KDE is famous for having tons of configuration options that can be confusing if you're not a computer power-user.
[01:11] <zcat[1]> and I have to ask.. why is authoring a DVD harder than compiling a kernel?!!
[01:11] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: they made changes 2.6.22 and above all required to have uuid for id, but if you format a partition its uuid changes along with the swap partitions if you install a distro on it.
[01:11] <Crazy181> thanks
[01:11] <Celarnor> Crazy181: Then you can just ssh into it with "ssh -l username remoteserverip"
[01:12] <jakel1> PirateHead, i think i like the gnome interface better than KDE's. though where i work they want us using KDE so everything is uniform
[01:12] <jakel1> but i have a couple machines here and there with GNOME
[01:12] <jakel1> or at least GNOME as an option
[01:12] <PirateHead> jakel1: That's not a very good debate to have in #ubuntu. :-)
[01:12] <IcemanV9> !offtopic
[01:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:13] <jakel1> hey all guis have their place
[01:13] <zcat[1]> Celarnor: ssh name@host also works
[01:13] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: its a pain in the butt but someone figured that was needed, probably the man himself.
[01:13] <xobius> join #gentoo
[01:13] <ogre> how do i find my icon folder in terminal?
[01:13] <sammyhellsyea> haha i already had that installed =] thanks a lot
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: http://linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/UUID_-what_is_it_and_why_is_it_a_problem   has some info
[01:14] <truna> zcat[1], take a look at Dell DRU disc remastering utility for authoring DVD..i just started looking into it
[01:14] <prae> ok, let me get boot up linux and i'll be back on here
[01:14] <LetterRip> Hi, there seems to be conflicting information out there regarding swap size and suspend to disk
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: UUID ic calculated using the size and location and other info...
[01:15] <zcat[1]> truna: I've kinda got qdvdauthor figured out.. but it still seems way7 harder than it should be to me..
[01:15] <LetterRip> what size swap partition is needed if i wish to have suspend to disk available?
[01:15] <LetterRip> given 4GB of ram
[01:15] <PirateHead> !swap | LetterRip
[01:15] <ubotu> LetterRip: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: Where did you see that it is not that way since that version of kernal
[01:15] <bio> prae, I like Gnome
[01:15] <zcat[1]> well that didn't answer the question :)
[01:15] <jakel1> is 16GB enough memory for Ubuntu?
[01:16] <bio> jakel1, GB?
[01:16] <bio> yes
[01:16] <jakel1> yep
[01:16] <jakel1> lol
[01:16] <Celarnor> jake|1: I would certainly hope so. :P
[01:16] <jakel1> i was kidding
[01:16] <pvl> rainwalker, no a 'wired connection manager'
[01:16] <zcat[1]> jakel1: showoff.. I have 512M :(
[01:16] <otto_> !groups
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: i watched it change, I use sidux and kanotix, sidux dealt with it back in jan 2007
[01:16] <Celarnor> !cake
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <jakel1> lol... intel mac
[01:16] <bio> 16 megs of memory.... try damn small
[01:16] <rainwalker> pvl: is it part of the notification area?
[01:16] <bio> (DSL)
[01:16] <PirateHead> !botsnack | Celarnor
[01:16] <ubotu> Celarnor: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:16] <jakel1> indeed
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: I was looking for a wiki or some other solid info...
[01:17] <Ryuki> I have trouble with my Xubuntu
[01:17] <jakel1> i have more than that in my cell phone probably
[01:17] <pvl> rainwalker, as in the top right?
[01:17] <bio> jakel1, my Opteron should be able to run it?
[01:17] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: i have no problem with it, i just get the new uuid with ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid and make change to my fstab as needed.
[01:17] <jakel1> i bet it could
[01:17] <jakel1> my dell poweredge can run it
[01:17] <LetterRip> PirateHead - unfortunately that doesn't cover my question
[01:17] <rainwalker> pvl: yeah, right click on the little line in the panel and move it around. if the network thing moves around with it, then it's part of the notification area
[01:17] <Ryuki> I am trying to add the username in my Xubuntu.
[01:18] <PirateHead> LetterRip: That's unfortunate. I haven't read the swap faq myself.
[01:18] <jakel1> Ryuki: adduser
[01:18] <Ryuki> I did
[01:18] <luis_> hello all, does anyone know if skype is out for ubuntu?
[01:18] <Ryuki> it won't.
[01:18] <jakel1> sudo adduser?
[01:18] <Ryuki> even I'm in root
[01:18] <zcat[1]> luis_: yes..
[01:18] <PirateHead> LetterRip: You might know that the conventional wisdom is to have between 1x and 2x your RAM in swap space.
[01:18] <luis_> woot!
[01:18] <luis_> lol
[01:18] <zcat[1]> !skype
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:18] <Ryuki> let me try
[01:18] <pvl> rainwalker, uhm, no apperently it isnt
[01:18] <LetterRip> PirateHead: yes i'm aware of the conventional wisdom
[01:18] <rainwalker> pvl: ok, then you should be able to just right click on it and remove it from the panel
[01:18] <luis_> thanks
[01:18]  * zcat[1] isn't helping anyone today, I'm just pretending to by typing bot triggers :)
[01:19] <otto_> anyone know why I might get an "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting" error when I try to start x from a startup script
[01:19] <pvl> rainwalker, theres no option to do that
[01:19] <PirateHead> LetterRip: Alright, I've got no help to offer then. ;-)
[01:19] <rainwalker> pvl what does it say?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: Agreed .. it is easy to fix fstab...   but that page I linked is dated oct 07 and still shows that uuid's change based on size and location of the partition on the drive.
[01:19] <LetterRip> otto_: x has to run as root?
[01:19] <kitche> otto_: well is X running already?
[01:19] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: commenting out the uuid is a bad idea as when the kernel gets changed they rely on uuids
[01:19] <pvl> rainwalker, then again, i guess my notifications thing is a bit off
[01:19] <wastrel> suspend to disk is 1:1 ram to swap isn't it?
[01:19] <LetterRip> PirateHead: thanks anyway...
[01:19] <otto_> x is not running
[01:19] <Ryuki> I guess I had to reinstall Xubuntu
[01:19] <Ryuki> :|
[01:19] <otto_> and...why should X have to run as root?
[01:20] <wastrel> i mean i know you're not using 100% of ram and there's probably some compression
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: I never suggested commenting out the uuid.. that page does... but I personally like them...
[01:20] <jakel1> Ryuki, is there a users and groups under Applications>System?
[01:20] <Ryuki> I tried
[01:20] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow: i think it might pertain more to Ubuntu than other debian distros
[01:20] <Ryuki> and it weon't
[01:20] <Ryuki> even i'm in root or noty
[01:20] <jakel1> strange
[01:20] <wastrel> but the basic principle is 1:1 isn't it?
[01:20] <Ryuki> I'll reinstall, but it will take m 10 hours
[01:20] <prae> basic question, should i login as root all the time?
[01:20] <osmosis> any way to view quicktime 3d files ?
[01:20] <wastrel> prae: no
[01:20] <rainwalker> prae never
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> prae: No
[01:20] <LetterRip> otto_: i just vaguely recall that x has to run as at a higher than typical privelege level
[01:20] <Ryuki> :|
[01:20] <LetterRip> but i could be mistaken
[01:20] <Ryuki> It explains why I had hardtime removing.
[01:21] <prae> well when I try to do something and i have to change restrictions, then how do I give myself permission to do that
[01:21] <otto_> LetterRip, I can run it as any user on my system if I su to that user and "startx" but the script gives an error
[01:21] <zcat[1]> !sudo | prae
[01:21] <ubotu> prae: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:21] <prae> thx
[01:21] <Ryuki> I can't figutre it out why it won't work
[01:21] <rainwalker> what does this meanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50669/
[01:22] <Ryuki> ok I guess I had to reinstall :|
[01:22] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow:  yes , they are a pain but needed. everyone has an opinion on uuid's and its likely to be around a long time. i work with them as needed.
[01:22] <Ryuki> but I will switch the CD drive so it will be faster.
[01:22] <PirateHead> !enter | Ryuki
[01:22] <ubotu> Ryuki: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:22] <comicinker> rainwalker: I think the version of tracker in gutsy is a little bit buggy
[01:23] <dfcarney> otto_: what's the error?
[01:23] <zcat[1]> I've changed uuid's back to /dev/sdxx in grub and fstab a few times.. it still seems to survive any subsequent upgrades...
[01:23] <zcat[1]> although it's handy to know how to find them, thanks..
[01:23] <iCEifer> anyone know why gnome won't take up the whole LCD even though the resolution, refresh rate, and vsync/hsync are set correctly in xorg.conf? If I change to 75Hz it takes up the whole LCD but the LCD says out of range?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: The only point of contention was.. do that all change when you change one...   I understand that uuid's change for all partitions on the drive past from the partition you change to the last partition on that drive
[01:23] <zcat[1]> in future I'll just use the new UUID when I move stuff around
[01:23] <osmosis> Does ubuntu have a codec for Quicktime 3D files ?
[01:24] <PirateHead> osmosis: It's probably in one of the "bad" codec packages.
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wirechief_: do they all change..
[01:24] <emma> my realplayer is no longer working with firefox? why? How can I fix it?
[01:24] <pvl> iCEifer, generally speaking, from what i remember, lcd dont have refressh rates
[01:24] <emma> I'm trying to watch cspan2 in firefox..
[01:24] <falieson> i rebooted and my sound is all gone
[01:24] <PirateHead> osmosis: You can only install them if you have the legal right to do so, usually.
[01:24] <ogre> how do i find my icon folder in terminal?
[01:24] <pvl> iCEifer, what kind of lcd u got?
[01:24] <dfcarney> pvl: sure they do
[01:24] <iCEifer> pvl, right...Envision G19LWK
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> pvl: they do
[01:24] <pvl> dfcarney, they do
[01:24] <falieson> I rebooted with a new monitor and my sound is all gone
[01:24] <rainwalker> comicinker: but I was dl'ing a torrent?
[01:25] <kitche> refresh rates for lcd is usually 60 hz
[01:25] <pvl> dfcarney, they do but i meant not the same as the big monitors, which use Hz, i remember reading that while messing wif xorg
[01:25] <dfcarney> iCEifer: have you tried opening the LCD menu and stretching the screen horizontally?
[01:25] <dfcarney> iCEifer: sometimes they have an "auto-adjust" menu feature
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: one of mine goes up to 100
[01:25] <pvl> iCEifer, does it have that auto thingy?
[01:25] <pvl> dfcarney, beat me to it
[01:25] <iCEifer> dfcarney, yes I did...didn't help
[01:25] <wirechief_> Jack_Sparrow:  well, on sidux and kanotix i can say that only the partition that is formated and the swap but thats when you install a new distro on it. The others remain the same and don't change, and using ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid will show that.
[01:25] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: they go higher but most use 60 hz without giving the person a headache :)
[01:25] <dfcarney> iCEifer: at what resolution are you running?
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:26] <iCEifer> dfcarney, 1440x900
[01:26] <iCEifer> dfcarney, 19" wide LCD
[01:26] <dfcarney> iCEifer: that's why
[01:26] <dfcarney> iCEifer: is it a widescreen?
[01:26] <otto_> dfcarney, the error is "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting"
[01:26] <iCEifer> dfcarney, yes it is.
[01:26] <dfcarney> iCEifer: ah, ok
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: Could that explain these seizures I keep havng
[01:26] <DigitalNinja> Has anyone had trouble installing Dapper on a new system? I get the install menu but the kernel doesn't load.
[01:26] <maxfreestyle> is firefox crashing randomly for anyone, does anyone know the us based ubuntu support phone number, sorry im kind of sick so i appologize if im a little rude
[01:26] <c0nka> ive tried everything now and i still cant run ubuntu
[01:26] <LetterRip> hmm there are apparently a dozen different answers to the same question - arrrghh!
[01:26] <emma> I'm not sure why my realplayer won't work anymore. Could someone suggest something?
[01:27] <comicinker> rainwalker: I don't know how to deal with torrents
[01:27] <LetterRip> even related to laptops suspension requirements are inconsistent
[01:27] <PirateHead> maxfreestyle: You might want to check Canonical's website for support information.
[01:27] <PirateHead> maxfreestyle: Have you tried creating a new profile in Firefox?
[01:27] <emma> I'm trying to watch cpsan 2 on this page -- http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2
[01:27] <dfcarney> iCEifer: did you google for the error message?  i did; there are lots of hits
[01:27] <LetterRip> answer are physical ram + video ram
[01:27] <LetterRip> physical ram
[01:27] <IdleOne> maxfreestyle: ubuntu.com would probably have those numbers
[01:27] <c0nka> ???
[01:27] <iCEifer> dfcarney, there is no error message?
[01:27] <LetterRip> only as much of your ram as is actually 'in use'
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> maxfreestyle: What version of firefox are you running... and what plugins have you added.. there have been a few bad plugins recently cauing trouble
[01:28] <dfcarney> iCEifer:  whoops -- that was meant to go to otto :)
[01:28] <c0nka> could anyone help
[01:28] <sk_> hey
[01:28] <c0nka> ive tried everything now and i still cant run ubuntu
[01:28] <sk_> hello friends
[01:28] <dfcarney> iCEifer: how much of a margin is there?
[01:28] <sk_> has anybody get broadcom 43xx to work :(
[01:28] <dfcarney> iCEifer: just on the edges, or the top and bottom?
[01:28] <zcat[1]> sk_: yes
[01:28] <sk_> i tried restricted drivers and ndiswrapper to no avail
[01:28] <iCEifer> dfcarney, there is about 1/4 of the screen on the left that is black
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: yes. lots of them with fwcutter
[01:28] <PirateHead> sk_: hallo freunde
[01:28] <iCEifer> dfcarney, maybe 1/6
[01:28] <zcat[1]> sk_: you need fwcutter
[01:29] <sk_> jack: i think restricted drivers options install fwcutter
[01:29] <Celarnor> sk_:I haven't had any luck at all with fwcutter.  I used ndiswrapper.
[01:29] <sk_> where did you download the .inf file from
[01:29] <sk_> if you can remember
[01:29] <dfcarney> otto_: google for the solution -- i'm sure you'll find it.
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: I still use feisty on the laptop that has bcm43xx so I did it manually
[01:29] <dfcarney> otto_: i can't say exactly what the problem is, but i'm sure others have encountered it
[01:29] <Celarnor> sk_:I had them from HP.
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm
[01:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:29] <sk_> hmm
[01:30] <oddalot> hey, where is xorg.conf located?
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[01:30] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:30] <dfcarney> iCEifer: ick.  what make/model of monitor?
[01:30] <otto_> dfcarney, yeah I have been reading them and they give a workaround but no real reason on what causes it
[01:30] <IdleOne> !xorg | oddalot
[01:30] <ubotu> oddalot: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <iCEifer> pvl, right...Envision G19LWK
[01:30] <soldats> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> oddalot:  /etc/X11/
[01:30] <oddalot> thanks
[01:30] <iCEifer> dfcarney, Envision G19LWK
[01:30] <wastrel> gnome
[01:31] <sk_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[01:31] <sk_>  <- This is bcm43xx right ?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: nope
[01:31] <crimsun> for gutsy, yes.
[01:31] <dfcarney> iCEifer: this may sound silly, but have you tried a different video card or cable?  is it just in Linux, or Windows too?
[01:32] <IdleOne> using mencoder how would I convert multiple files at the same time?
[01:32] <iCEifer> dfcarney, just Linux
[01:32] <sk_> hmm
[01:32] <sk_> so what is it
[01:32] <otto_> I feel like setting the X allowed_users=anybody seems kind of risky
[01:32] <sk_> im using 7.10
[01:32] <dfcarney> iCEifer: that's really odd.  the only time i had a problem like that was when my resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf was set improperly (i.e. I had "1900x1400", not "1920x1400")
[01:33] <IdleOne> otto_: set it to your user
[01:33] <iCEifer> dfcarney, yeah....hmmm
[01:33] <otto_> what about multiple users
[01:33] <iCEifer> dfcarney, this is similar to me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628317
[01:34] <maxfreestyle> ok i found the number, the headache was preventing me from seeing it, i used the zoom feature in compiz-fusion
[01:34] <IdleOne> otto_: would it support user1,user2,user3?
[01:34] <falieson> my sound stopped working
[01:34] <komju> what is a good wifi tool for ubuntu?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)     that is the real bcm43xx
[01:35] <dfcarney> iCEifer: weird.  i'd start by checking /etc/X11/xorg.conf and making sure that it's all right
[01:35] <rogerr> Hi, i just installed ubuntu cmd line only on an old laptop, my problem is that even when i close the lid, the screen stays on, is there a way to turn off the screen?
[01:35] <meoblast001> hello
[01:35] <otto_> IdleOne, the defualt setting is "console" which seems to work other than from a script at boot (the same script works later)
[01:35] <EduardoSal> good bye girls
[01:35] <emma> Great now that they have pledged alegiance to the republic they will be morally bound to vote for Ron Paul.
[01:35] <EduardoSal> :P
[01:36] <IdleOne> otto_: I dont know enough to say either way was just throwing stuff at you hoping to hit a target
[01:36] <iCEifer> dfcarney, yeah, I have checked it...someone told me my BusID might be wrong and I did a grep command and got this, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller....and my line is set to  BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:36] <sk_> crap
[01:36] <sk_> so what do i have
[01:36] <sk_> :(
[01:36] <gotamatw> Hi! I'm trying to install a lexmark z640 printer on gutsy (amd64). I've have repeat the tutorail for many times and always get the message: "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z600" - No such file or directory. Any help?
[01:36] <otto_> IdleOne, alright, I'll try using anybody
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: bcm943xx
[01:36] <dfcarney> iCEifer: and that's the only head on your video card?
[01:37] <rainwalker> rogerr: System > Preferences > Power Management
[01:37] <rogerr> its cmd line only
[01:37] <dfcarney> iCEifer: are you connecting to the monitor with a laptop?
[01:37] <rogerr> no X
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: NOt sure what driver works for that...  LEt me look areound...  maybe you can do the same
[01:37] <otto_> IdleOne, "anybody" works so...I'll just hope it isnt that insecure
[01:37] <DigitalNinja> I just got a new system and I can't install Dapper on it. I can install 7.10. Any ideas?
[01:37] <iCEifer> dfcarney, no...desktop
[01:37] <wastrel> DigitalNinja: i would suggest installing 7.10
[01:38] <dfcarney> iCEifer: what kind of video card do you have?
[01:38] <otto_> DigitalNinja, what happens when you try dapper?
[01:38] <DigitalNinja> I need dapper server
[01:38] <DigitalNinja> I get the boot/install menu
[01:38] <iCEifer> dfcarney, Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[01:38] <DigitalNinja> I select install and it says loading kernel
[01:38] <rogerr> maybe your cd is bad, try burning a new one at slow speed
[01:38] <DigitalNinja> It does nothing after that
[01:38] <otto_> DigitalNinja, use 7.10 server? and then move it over to the 8.04 LTS in a few months?
[01:38] <dfcarney> iCEifer: i don't suppose that you can post your xorg.conf file in pastebin, can you?
[01:39] <dfcarney> !pastebin | dfcarney
[01:39] <DigitalNinja> I would do that but the software I want only works on dapper
[01:39] <DigitalNinja> dapper LTS
[01:39] <iCEifer> dfcarney, sure....give me a sec
[01:39] <rogerr> so does anyone know of a command that turns off the monitor?
[01:39] <otto_> DigitalNinja, you could try installing the one before dapper and then doing a dist-upgrade
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: Do you have the universe repo enabled?
[01:39] <BloodyScum> whats the best way to install java to use with firefox? i went to the aplication manager, and there is like 6 listings for sun java.. which one is the one i want?
[01:39] <tuiyeuvn> hi
[01:39] <rexy> rogerr: you can blank the screen with atitool if it's ati
[01:39] <DigitalNinja> otto_: I don't know about that
[01:39] <XxValetexX> hello all
[01:39] <XxValetexX> :D
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !java > BloodyScum
[01:39] <tuiyeuvn> hi
[01:39] <rexy> prolly something similar for nvidia
[01:40] <rainwalker> rogerr: why is it command line only?
[01:40] <XxValetexX> has anybody here used that Smart Package Manager? Is it a good idea to try it out with ubuntu?
[01:40] <DigitalNinja> otto_: If it won't install dapper I don't think it will install early versions of Ubuntu
[01:40] <rogerr> rainwalker: its a really old computer, everything else would just slow it down
[01:40] <vocx> DigitalNinja, what program only works with dapper?
[01:40] <DigitalNinja> email software
[01:40] <DigitalNinja> let me find it...
[01:40] <rainwalker> rogerr: so you don't have any graphical interface at all?
[01:40] <otto_> DigitalNinja, have you tried it without the -quiet and -splash options?
[01:41] <otto_> DigitalNinja, so that you can see what is really going on
[01:41] <sk_> jack: whats that
[01:41] <DigitalNinja> no
[01:41] <DigitalNinja> It doesn't load the kernel
[01:41] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to install Zimbra
[01:41] <iCEifer> dfcarney, sec...pasting
[01:41] <rogerr> rainwalker: nope
[01:42] <DigitalNinja> The Zimbra website only has Ubuntu an Ubuntu package for Dapper LTS
[01:42] <rainwalker> rogerr: you could try xubuntu or fluxbuntu instead, they're lightweight
[01:42] <meoblast001> hello... im running IDJC on both Ubuntu and Fedora, the package is not supported by fedora and i noticed that importing m3u playlists works on my Ubuntu system but not on my fedora server..... since the application should be simmaler on both fedora and ubuntu, i posted the error message at http://pastebin.com/d17509ec5
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> DigitalNinja: How much ram in that box?
[01:42] <DigitalNinja> I could try compiling Zimbra for Gutsy but I'm not sure that's going to run
[01:42] <iCEifer> dfcarney, http://pastebin.com/d23292486
[01:42] <DigitalNinja> 1GB
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:42] <DigitalNinja> I'm doing a mem test
[01:43] <limp> hinogi, i just had a very embarrassing issue with ubuntu. I was listening to music with VLC when all of a sudden the folder containing the files disappeared. Just deleted for no reason, not even in trash. Has this happened to someone before? is it ubuntu, VLC, or my HDD ?
[01:43] <eTranquility> I have an external hard drive but I can't write on it, can someone help me change the permissions?
[01:43] <ryanmf> anyone in here have any experience with the hauppauge capture cards (i'm working with the hvr 1800)?
[01:44] <limp> (and i don't know why it wrote hinogi instead of hi)
[01:44] <DigitalNinja> I'll run a few more tests on it and see what happens
[01:44] <otto_> DigitalNinja, there are a fair amount of differences between dapper and gutsy (the versions of dev packages are quite different)
[01:44] <MartianLobster> I just installed the boost libraries,  with apt-get install libboost-*  ;   I then ran ld config.   When I try to link to link with the flag -lboost_thread-gcc-mt,  I get the error,  cannot find -lboost_thread-gcc-mt.    But I can clearly see libboost_thread-gcc-mt.so  in the directory /usr/lib .   What is wrong?
[01:44] <vocx> DigitalNinja, search for zimbra in the forums, maybe somebody knows already if it runs on other ubuntu versions.
[01:44] <dfcarney> iCEifer: i recommend trying this:  1. make a backup of xorg.conf; 2. comment out the BusID, HorizSync, and VertRefresh lines; 3. Comment out all of the display modes except "1440x900"; 4. restart X
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> limp: Is this a standard hard drive install or some sort of vmware etc?
[01:45] <iCEifer> dfcarney, worth a try...brb
[01:45] <dfcarney> iCEifer: good lucl
[01:45] <dfcarney> luck
[01:45] <otto_> DigitalNinja, have you tried the alternate install cd instead of server?
[01:45] <limp> Jack_Sparrow, it's the HDD of my laptop computer. Not an external, nor vmare or anything.
[01:45] <dfcarney> iCEifer: i may have to run in a bit...hopefully i'll be here when you're back
[01:45] <iCEifer> dfcarney, k
[01:45] <ari_stres1> hello guys, anyone using pidgin?
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> limp: Understand that I needed to ask...   NO never heard of anything like that.
[01:46] <sk_> bleh
[01:46] <ari_stres1> can i make pidgin to 'rejoin' channel when got disconnected?
[01:46] <limp> Jack_Sparrow, weird hu? I hope it's not my HDD or I should start backing my scripts right away!!
[01:46] <DigitalNinja> otto: I'll Download that and give it a try
[01:46] <rainwalker> ari_stres1: I don't know if there's an autorejoin function with Pidgin, but I know you can set it to auto-join a challel/chat at startup
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> limp: I would back up .. yes.. that cant hurt..
[01:47] <DigitalNinja> otto_: I'll give that a try
[01:47] <rainwalker> ari_stres1: try asking in #pidgin
[01:47] <tjmac> I NOW HAVE A WORKING LINUX ON A MAC SYSTEM!!!!!!!!! (thanks to everyone for helping me last night.)
[01:47] <c0nka> i need help
[01:47] <c0nka> ive tried everything now and i still cant run ubuntu
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[01:47] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:47] <limp> Jack_Sparrow, now filezilla just closed alone while uploading....... w**
[01:47] <IdleOne> c0nka: we need more info on what you have tried and what problem you are having exactly
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> limp: Some bad mojo going on in there....
[01:47] <Oli``> Anybody know if there's a way to display information about a file when you hover over it (gnome/nautilus)?
[01:48] <vocx> c0nka, you need to be more specific for people to help you
[01:48] <ari_stres1> thanks rainwalker
[01:48] <iCEifer> dfcarney, didn't do anything =\
[01:48] <XxValetexX> has anybody here used that Smart Package Manager? Is it a good idea to try it out with ubuntu? Is it better then synaptic?
[01:48] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me figure out why my internet is going through patchy spurts of activity, its very irratic and i may disconnect at any second. It is not my router or my internet as all other PC's are working find. There are no error messages in dmesg.
[01:48] <IcemanV9> ari_stres1: yes, you can - sudo aptitude install pidgin-plugin-pack - then ctrl+u, select Autorejoin
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork > c0nka:
[01:48] <tjmac> Question: How do you connect to a wireless network in Linux?
[01:49] <meoblast001> does anyone know why idjc wouldnt be able to open m3u playlists?
[01:49] <c0nka> idleone: whenever i boot ubuntu it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46.4hz" then it goes on a black screen
[01:49] <ari_stres1> thanks IcemanV9
[01:49] <Kevin`> tjmac click on the little icon and the top of the screen and select a network
[01:49] <kitche> XxValetexX: using that is actually a bad idea
[01:49] <tuiyeuvn> hi all
[01:49] <dfcarney> iCEifer: ugh
[01:49] <dfcarney> iCEifer: well, at least we eliminated those as sources of error
[01:49] <oddalot> what command do i use in recovery mode to edit xorg.conf?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > c0nka  Start here.....    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <tjmac> oh thanks kevin, I am going to boot into Ubuntu and try to download xchat. brb
[01:49] <Anderson> what package to i need to install to get GTK+-2.0 ?
[01:49] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me figure out why my internet is going through patchy spurts of activity, its very irratic and i may disconnect at any second. It is not my router or my internet as all other PC's are working find. There are no error messages in dmesg.
[01:49] <XxValetexX> kitche:  howcome?
[01:50] <dfcarney> iCEifer: have you tried with other 19" widescreens?
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> oddalot: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:50] <c0nka> jack_sparrow then what
[01:50] <dfcarney> iCEifer: the only thing that i can think it would be is the driver
[01:50] <oddalot> nano! thanks
[01:50] <IdleOne> c0nka: follow that link and read :)
[01:50] <NemesisD> anyone know of a very "raw" way to extract data from a tape drive? I have a feeling this tape is majorly borked, i get an I/O error even from mt -f /dev/nst0 seek 1
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> c0nka: Read the link on fixing res...  then ask your question
[01:50] <c0nka> i have
[01:50] <anderswc> hello, If I install a dual boot ubuntu on my computer, how will it decide what OS to boot?
[01:50] <iCEifer> dfcarney, no, I have only this one
[01:50] <c0nka> i tried that and still the same problem
[01:51] <dfcarney> iCEifer: hmmm....  well, i'm out of ideas for now
[01:51] <Oli``> XxValetexX: I wouldn't recommend it. It sounds like a fairly quick way to mess up updates for a start. Then you have sources from lots of different distros where apps might not work...
[01:51] <Anderson> what package to i need to install to get GTK+-2.0 ?
[01:51] <dfcarney> iCEifer: i'll dig around some more, but someone else must have had this problem
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> oddalot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                   may also be what you were looking for.
[01:51]  * Pelo is bored
[01:51] <wastrel> anderswc: you configure the boot manager to boot one by default or you can get a menu and choose at boot time
[01:51] <iCEifer> dfcarney, k, thanks....
[01:51] <IcemanV9> anderswc: ubuntu will be default, but you can change it though
[01:51] <pac1>  I've got a netgear ps121 usb print server.  It's error light comes on when I plug in the power.  Port scan shows 515, 631, 9100, 34443 and 34448.  Any advice on what to do with this?
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> c0nka: Set xorg to vesa and 1024 max.. it will get you into the gui...
[01:51] <otto_> !sed > otto_
[01:51] <Pelo> Anderson, if this is because you need a dependency for manualy compiling , also install the related -dev package
[01:51] <Anderson> what package to i need to install to get GTK+-2.0 ?
[01:51] <kitche> XxValetexX: I tried it and it's not that great of a frontend but of coruse I tried it on a slackware based distro
[01:52] <anderswc> ok, do I change what OS boots by default from the installer or after I install?
[01:52] <c0nka> jack_sparrow: how do you do that
[01:52] <xobius> anderswc, you should change the file /boot/menu.lst
[01:52] <eTranquility> Hi, I have an external hard drive but I can't write on it, can someone help me change the permissions?
[01:52] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me figure out why my internet is going through patchy spurts of activity, its very irratic and i may disconnect at any second. It is not my router or my internet as all other PC's are working find. There are no error messages in dmesg.
[01:52] <Pelo> Anderson, search in synaptic,  libgtk2 I think ,  just use the search feature
[01:52] <Anderson> Pelo, What's the base package?
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> c0nka: You must not have read the link.. it covers all of that
[01:52] <Pelo> Anderson, search in synaptic,  libgtk2 I think ,  just use the search feature
[01:52] <XxValetexX> kitche:  hmmm ;\
[01:53] <IcemanV9> pac1: port 631 is for printer (that's for sure) others - I am not sure
[01:53] <Anderson> Pelo, common?
[01:53] <xobius> anderswc, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me figure out why my internet is going through patchy spurts of activity, its very irratic and i may disconnect at any second. It is not my router or my internet as all other PC's are working find. There are no error messages in dmesg.
[01:53] <Pelo> Anderson, gtk2-engines
[01:54] <Oli``> CppIsWeird: wireless or wired?
[01:54] <CppIsWeird> wireless
[01:54] <soldats> otto_, was it you who needed a code to turn off the monitor
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: If you plug it in (wired) does it do the same thing
[01:54] <Anderson> Pelo, what's that, and will it be a problem if I install libgtk2.0-common -dev and gtk2-engines?
[01:54] <MartianLobster> If I put a new shared library in /usr/lib,  and I want everyone to be able to link to it,  what do I run?   Is it ldconfig?
[01:54] <CppIsWeird> cant use wired
[01:54] <r0b-> nixternal,
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: NOt even a way to do it for a test?
[01:55] <Oli``> CppIsWeird: right, you're going to need a oigia board and some voodoo dolls... discovering wireless issues requires severe black magic
[01:55] <Pelo> Anderson, disregard my last one ,  libgtk2.0-0 and libgtk2.0-dev
[01:55] <Anderson> pelo... too late now =]
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: Everything comes with a 10/100 these days
[01:55] <Pelo> Anderson,  damn :-)
[01:56]  * Pelo just managed to screw up another one,  won't anyone stop him 
[01:56] <vocx> CppIsWeird, you need to know that some drivers may be buggy, so that behavior maybe "normal" until a better driver is made.
[01:56] <Anderson> Pelo, will it cuase problems?
[01:56] <CppIsWeird> Oli, well it seems to work for prolonged periods of time like now, its working great at full capacity, ive got it streaming music from a website for testing.
[01:56] <soldats> err
[01:56] <soldats> sorry
[01:56] <vocx> Pelo, I actually saw that...
[01:56] <pac1> IcemanV9, problem is its not responding to tcp....
[01:56] <AzMoo> Hey, I'm trying to install a deb to fix up an ltsp issue,  and it's telling me that it requires a later version of libpango than I have. I checked my mirror and it seems that there is the later version on there, but when I do an apt-get update/upgrade it doesn't show up. Is there something I have to enable?
[01:56] <CppIsWeird> at first it was rebuffering every second, then it slowely got less and less until its working fine now.
[01:56] <pac1> I think.
[01:56] <Pelo> vocx, ;-)
[01:57] <Oli``> CppIsWeird: what timezone are you on?
[01:57] <IcemanV9> pac1: firewall?
[01:57] <Pelo> AzMoo, dl the .deb package directly from the mirror
[01:57] <fsanlu> question: how come i cant just plug in USB devices, such as an external hard drive, a usb drive or my camera. i have to reboot the computer for it to be mounted properly.
[01:57] <vocx> Pelo, you need to spend some time in the Programming Talk section of the forums.   and you too Anderson
[01:57] <pac1> Dont' think so.  Its attached to my router through a hub.
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> AzMoo: Going outside official repos is a slippery slope... use caution
[01:57] <CppIsWeird> Oli, the issue is not outside of this PC.
[01:57] <Pelo> fsanlu, that shouldn't be happening
[01:57] <Anderson> vocx, o
[01:57] <AzMoo> Jack_Sparrow: It's a bugfix deb from launchpad.
[01:58] <Anderson> vocx i was just looking for a quick fix tonight.
[01:58] <fsanlu> Pelo, i know... i have to restart my computer before it shows up as a drive, and is mounted
[01:58] <AzMoo> Pelo: ok, ta.
[01:58] <Oli``> CppIsWeird: I only ask because some ISPs do throttle connections, especially p2p and streaming audio/video
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: The issue is most likely the driver for your wireless card...
[01:58] <CppIsWeird> when activity starts plumetting again, I have to reboot to fix it, to which it slowly regains full capacity
[01:58] <pac1> IcemanV9, if i hold its reset button in for two seconds the error light goes out, but its still unresponsive.
[01:58] <Pelo> fsanlu, can you manualy mount it ? or rigth click and mount it from "my computer" ?
[01:58] <vocx> Anderson, the forums maybe be faster than IRC. Good luck.
[01:58] <Anderson>  vocx, actuall seems to be a bad habit I developed, I should lay off the quick fixes
[01:58] <fsanlu> Pelo, it doesnt even show up there.. i have to reboot the laptop
[01:58] <musikgoat> If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated again, run the following command
[01:58] <musikgoat> ^^running that command, will it automatically find monitor resolution?  or whats the meaning of this statement
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> AzMoo: That doesnt mean much...  I have seen some odd suff posted in there..
[01:59] <nownot> in remote desktop there is a python script for metasploit called fast-track but when i installed it its not there wondering if someone could help me out here
[01:59] <musikgoat> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:59] <Pelo> fsanlu, might be an issue with the laptop itself,  check the bios settings
[01:59] <CppIsWeird> Jack_Sparrow: how do I identify the driver I am currently using and if there is an updated version?
[01:59] <fsanlu> Pelo, hmm alright ill look around
[01:59] <fsanlu> thanks
[01:59] <AzMoo> Jack_Sparrow: heh, well if worst comes to worst I can blow this server away and rebuild it without too much effort.
[01:59] <Pelo> fsanlu, it is quite possibly that you have to enable hotplug or something for usb devices
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: lspci
[01:59] <fsanlu> Pelo, where would that be located at?
[01:59] <sigra> Hello can someone help me network 2 ubuntu boxes I have in my house.  I am following the instructions on net and set it up.  but when go to the network folder nothing shows up
[02:00] <meoblast001> does anyone know why IDJC cant play M3U playlists?
[02:00] <_superman_> I can solve all your linux problems because I am superman!!
[02:00] <nownot> in remote exploit there is a python script for metasploit called fast-track but when i installed it its not there wondering if someone could help me out here
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> AzMoo: then go for it...  chasing dependencies can be so much fun
[02:00] <Pelo> fsanlu, no way to tell,  bios vary quite a lot from comp to comp
[02:00] <fsanlu> Pelo, alright i shall snoop around and will return :]
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > sigra
[02:00] <Oli``> nownot: I daresay you're asking in the wrong place
[02:00] <ushdfgakk> is anyone from london?
[02:00] <ushdfgakk> i have a question
[02:00] <ushdfgakk> an important one
[02:01] <sigra> I have samba installed on both systems Jack_sparrow
[02:01] <IcemanV9> pac1: I have no idea why .. thought it would be firewall or bad connection or loose inside the box
[02:01] <c0nka> ive tried that and still no look
[02:01] <c0nka> ???
[02:01] <Oli``> ushdfgakk: from England, if that's of any use
[02:01] <Pelo> vocx, it's just been a while since I had to tell someone which gtk package to get, I jsut got confused a bit , gimme a break
[02:01] <sigra> and I set a shared folder for both them.  but when i go network browser neither show up
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> sigra: and an account on both systems with the same user name and password?
[02:01] <sigra> o no
[02:01]  * vocx gives Pelo a break and a sandwich
[02:01] <sigra> I try that..thank you..sec
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> and a glass or port
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> of
[02:02] <rainwalker> is there a list of ubuntu-based distros somewhere?
[02:02] <Kevin`> sigra try going directly to the computers ip address to see if it's at least working for file sharing
[02:02] <c0nka> ???
[02:02] <Eds`> Anyone know of a program that makes a mac bar? iv seen it in peoples desktop screenshots :P
[02:02] <_superman_> I can solve all your linux problems because I am superman!!
[02:02] <Pelo> c0nka, what is your issue ?
[02:02] <ushdfgakk> a dock?
[02:02] <Oli``> Eds`: AWN
[02:02] <soldats> !awn
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <musikgoat> we heard you the first time :-)
[02:02] <CppIsWeird> Jack_Sparrow: ok, then what?
[02:02] <ushdfgakk> i've seen the FAQ to do that on linux actually
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> _superman_: Please stop
[02:02] <Pelo> _superman_, can you stop please
[02:02] <ushdfgakk> Eds' you hear me?
[02:02] <c0nka> pelo: whenever i boot ubuntu it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46.4hz" then it goes on a black screen
[02:02] <_superman_> ok
[02:02] <sigra> I dont use windows..both are ubuntu boxes..do i still have to use samba?
[02:02] <Oli``> Eds`: https://launchpad.net/awn
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: find your hardware and google is what I would do..
[02:02] <Pelo> c0nka, what videocard are you using ?
[02:03] <Kevin`> sigra you don't have to use samba in any case. what do you need out of "networking" though?
[02:03] <c0nka> pelo: ati radeon xpress 200 series
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: I found a great fix for bcm43xx cards..
[02:03] <eTranquility> Hi, I have an external hard drive but I can't write to it, can someone help me change the permissions? (Yes, I googled, but chown didn't seem to work.)
[02:03] <Pelo> c0nka, are you using the restricted driver ?
[02:03] <otto_> is there any way to install the xserver packages from apt without it asking me the configuration questions...let me do it later?
[02:03] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here help me setup Squid / Share an internet connection?
[02:03] <anton__> Problem: In world of warcraft using wine, everything runs perfectly at all settings, but i experience freeze lags like every 30 secs...it freezes for like 3-4 seconds...anyone got a clue?
[02:03] <c0nka> pelo : i dont no i cant even got onit
[02:03] <Kevin`> eTranquility what filesystem are you using on it
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> anton__: Ask in #Winehq
[02:04] <CppIsWeird> Jack_Sparrow: thats about as useful as me telling you in order to have sex, look for a woman.
[02:04] <sigra> I am trying share files and share a printer between 2 ubuntu boxes
[02:04] <otto_> anton__, sell your account and get out while you still can ;)
[02:04] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here help me setup Squid / Share an internet connection?
[02:04] <c0nka> pelo: ???
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: Identify your hardware....  that is step one...
[02:04] <CppIsWeird> Atheros
[02:04] <Pelo> c0nka,  boot the recovery mode and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when asked select the vesa driver   for everything else pick the default provided unless you actualy know better ,
[02:04] <Kevin`> sigra printer is best done through cups, not windows filesharing
[02:04] <Pelo> c0nka, patience
[02:04] <CppIsWeird> stick that in to google I get lots of stuff, driver stuff about windows
[02:05] <eTranquility0> Kevin: How can I tell?
[02:05] <Clay_The_Arc> is any1 here able to help me config squid or establish a shared connection thru ppp0?
[02:05] <Pelo> c0nka, that will get the gui back you can do the rest from there
[02:05] <Kevin`> etranquility file -s /dev/harddrivepartition
[02:05] <Pelo> Clay_The_Arc, look for a squid channel
[02:05] <CppIsWeird> Jack_Sparrow: i dont even know what kind of atheros i have.
[02:05] <lexual> I can't get rhythmbox to import any of music files thanks to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/147883. Am I right to conclude that this won't be fixed in gutsy?
[02:06] <c0nka> pelo: it says " comand 'sudo' is available in '/usr/bin/sudo'
[02:06] <Clay_The_Arc> k
[02:06] <Pelo> c0nka, what are you typing ?
[02:06] <CppIsWeird> Jack_Sparrow: this is what I get: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[02:06] <sigra> cups?
[02:06] <anderswc> can anyone help me with Gparted?
[02:06] <Eds`> Has anyone connected Ubuntu to an active directory?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> CppIsWeird: Look for a soultion in google using a GOOD search criteria...  ubuntu  atheros and a description of the symptoms.. slow lost connection etc...  Until you can identify your own hardware no one can help much
[02:07] <c0nka> pelo: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <Pelo> anderswc,  the latest version is buggy as hell,  I recommend you use the one from the feisty cd
[02:07] <sigra> Thank you jack sparrow..that worked..much appricated
[02:07] <c0nka> pelo : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sigra: glad you got it
[02:07] <anderswc> feisty cd?
[02:07] <Pelo> c0nka, you need to type sudo first
[02:07] <c0nka> pelo : i did
[02:07] <Pelo> c0nka, from the recovery mode
[02:07] <CppIsWeird> linux is 1000 times buggier then windows, why the hell would anyone switch.
[02:07] <c0nka> pelo, yes
[02:07] <Kevin`> ....
[02:07] <Pelo> c0nka, reboot before you try
[02:08] <Kevin`> i'm stabbing cppisweird next time I see him, since he's a regular somewhere
[02:08] <Pelo> anderswc, the live cd from the previous version of ubuntu , or any previous version of ubuntu will do
[02:08] <anderswc> ahh, ok. Something I don't have ;)
[02:08] <my-kal> okay im trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu.....i boot from the live cd and click start or install ubuntu...my screen goes into sleep mode....ive got an nvidia 8500gt and an integrated video card...what should i do
[02:08] <c0nka> pelo, doi have to do it in root
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Kevin`: Yea, you dont bother to buy supported hardware THEN complan
[02:08] <Pelo> anderswc, you can also download a gparted live cd from the gparted site I beleive
[02:09] <eTranquility0> Kevin: It's an external drive and its name has a space... how do I deal with that in the terminal?
[02:09] <Clay_The_Arc> noone in a squid channel is active, so. can any1 help help me config a shared internet connection thru ppp0?
[02:09] <anderswc> Pelo, ok, I'll try that.
[02:09] <Pelo> c0nka, no sudo gives you root priviledge from the command after
[02:09] <RB2> my-kal, Is the onboard video disabled in the BIOS?
[02:09] <my-kal> i guess it needs to be
[02:09] <my-kal> okay ty
[02:09] <Xintruder> hey all
[02:09] <Kevin`> etran*: type mount in the terminal to see the device name, and probably the filesystem too
[02:09] <Xintruder> after i install ubuntu, how do i apt-get xchat?
[02:09] <pvl> whats the command to see my hardware?
[02:09] <RB2> my-kal, good luck
[02:10] <Pelo> Xintruder, sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:10] <Kevin`> eTranquility: spaces in filesnames can be dealt with with quotes or \ , but you dont need that here
[02:10] <crush_groove> pvl lspci
[02:10] <eTranquility0> Kevin: It's ntfs, I assume that's bad, right?
[02:10] <jeriko> 'lo
[02:10] <ebirtaid> who can remove my forums account
[02:10] <pvl> crush_groove, thank
[02:10] <pac1> ping.
[02:10] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | eTranquility0
[02:10] <ubotu> eTranquility0: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:11] <Xintruder> thanks pelo
[02:11] <vocx> ebirtaid, according to the rules, that is not possible.
[02:11] <Clay_The_Arc>  can any1 help help me config a shared internet connection thru ppp0? I'm rushed by my parents I need some help
[02:11] <IdleOne> Xintruder: you probably want xchat-common
[02:11] <Obelich> hiyas anyone know the toshiba tecra 9100 can work with compiz ?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Xintruder: there are two versions of xchat
[02:11] <ebirtaid> an admin should be able to do it vocx
[02:11] <Pelo> Xintruder, if you have gnome installed familiarize yourself ith add/remove in the application menu and synaptic in the system/ admin menu
[02:11] <Xintruder> which is better?
[02:11] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc apt-get install ipmasq
[02:11] <Clay_The_Arc> have it
[02:11] <vocx> ebirtaid, according to the rules they will not. Please read the rules, in the feedback forum.
[02:11] <Kevin`> ok, forgetting that then, pastebin this:
[02:12] <anderswc> Pelo, what version of GParted would you suggest?
[02:12] <fsanlu> mr Pelo sir, i double checked the BIOS, there were no settings that talked about USB... it was actually a very plain BIOS that only cared about boot order... but now that i rebooted, both my external and my usb flash drive mounted just fine
[02:12] <Pelo> Xintruder, xchat common is just a dependency for xchat,  if you instll xchat  the -common package will be instaled as well
[02:12] <DigitalNinja> I got Dapper to start the install process
[02:12] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc route -n; ifconfig -a; iptables-save
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Xintruder: Your choice..  I dont use either.. I use Konversation as I found it more like mirc
[02:12] <RB2> Obelich, do you know what video card is in it?
[02:12] <jeriko> i'm made change to my monitor config, but now when i System > Administration > Screens and Graphics, no application starts. any ideas?
[02:12] <Pelo> anderswc, the latest, just not the one in the gutsy cd
[02:12] <Obelich> is a S3 video card
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DigitalNinja: what did you do to get it going
[02:12] <DigitalNinja> I had to add in noapic nolapic etc...
[02:12] <anderswc> Pelo, ok :)
[02:12] <ebirtaid> god this shit is fucking ass backwards
[02:12] <vocx> Obelich, S3 Unichrome Pro ?
[02:12] <Obelich> we have already install gutsy
[02:12] <Obelich> let me see
[02:13] <osmosis> how do I figure out what package /usr/bin/host  comes from ?
[02:13] <regeya> dpkg -S /usr/bin/host
[02:13] <truna> jeriko, how did you verify the apps have not started?
[02:13] <DigitalNinja> Well, I'm off to install Dapper
[02:13] <DigitalNinja> Thanks all
[02:13] <Clay_The_Arc> http://pastebin.be/7955 <-- Kevin`
[02:13] <regeya> osmosis: dpkg -S /usr/bin/host
[02:14]  * Pelo wonders if dapper will upgrade to hardy 
[02:14] <Clay_The_Arc> trying to share thru etho0, from input line ppp0
[02:14] <Clay_The_Arc> eth0 *
[02:14] <jeriko> truna: i see "starting screens and..." on the task bar, but then it dissapears
[02:14] <DigitalNinja> Pelo: I'm wondering the same thing
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: We all hope it goes smoothly
[02:14] <truna> jeriko, just because it disappears, it does not mean it has not started, use ps aux|grep theappname to confirm
[02:14] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, so do I , I do not relish the thought of having to troubleshoot an lts upgrade
[02:14] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc you have an APIPA address on eth0, you should change that to a normal private address
[02:15] <Clay_The_Arc> how?
[02:15] <Obelich> is this Display Driver for S3 SuperSavage IXC display adapters
[02:15] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc in the normal network configuration
[02:15] <jeriko> truna: i tried grepping for "screen" and it doesn't show up
[02:15] <osmosis> well...now I know what happens if you accidently assign two domu's with the same nic MAC address.
[02:15] <Clay_The_Arc> exactly what setting to change pls
[02:15] <jeriko> i don't know what the exact process name is
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: The keyword for that day is Backup
[02:15] <dka7414> I have an acer extenza 5620-6830 that has a crystal eye webcam and I no longer use windoze so now i am using ubuntu 7.10 is there anyway to get it to work?
[02:15] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc change it to something like 192.168.1.1, netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:15] <truna> jerico then it has not started
[02:16] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, like they will think of doing that
[02:16] <limp> Hello again. I copied files from windows on an external HDD, and now it doesn't want to mount on linux again (worked before). I need it right now because my standart HDD is dying and I have to backup ASAP!
[02:16] <Clay_The_Arc> kevin
[02:16] <Clay_The_Arc> address still dhcp?
[02:16] <vocx> Obelich, this is a new laptop right?   Where did you got that info, from the case or within Ubuntu?
[02:16] <jeriko> truna: right. any ideas on how to make it work again?
[02:16] <Obelich> i get this info from the web page
[02:16] <Pelo> limp,  what is the file system of the external hdd ?
[02:16] <Obelich> is not new i uset buth working perfect
[02:16] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc no, you are not getting an address from dhcp on that interface, you are providing addresses
[02:16] <dancor> trying to open a port on ubuntu server.  i have verified that iptables has an all-open policy, but i still cannot (even from localhost) telnet to any port but 22, which is consistent with what nmap tells me.  what am i missing
[02:16] <Obelich> the problem is not work compiz =(
[02:16] <Obelich> we get this info from the web page toshiba
[02:16] <truna> jeriko, screen is started from a terminal and it spawns a shell for you
[02:17] <RB2> Obelich, Do you get any errors? What are the symptoms?
[02:17] <Clay_The_Arc> mkay
[02:17] <Clay_The_Arc> so then
[02:17] <limp> Pelo, not sure... have to ask the person who formatted it but he's sleeping right now.. the error log says it see NTFS is in use. But i could use it yesterday just perfectly
[02:17] <truna> dancor, are you running a services listening on port 22 on your localhost?
[02:17] <Clay_The_Arc> on the XP  machine connectiong
[02:17] <Clay_The_Arc> 192.168.1.1
[02:17] <Obelich> knot enable the effects
[02:17] <dancor> truna: yeah sshd
[02:17] <Clay_The_Arc> is what i'd set the connection to r ight?
[02:17] <Pelo> limp, usb external %?
[02:18] <vocx> Obelich, are you running Ubuntu right now? then do "lspci -v" and tell us what the relevant info on the video card is, but do not paste the whole output in here
[02:18] <truna> dancor, check the sshd.conf for which port  it listens to, and make sure it is running
[02:18] <limp> Pelo, yes, usb external
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> and
[02:18] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc if you want to configure the xp connection manually, set it like this: ip 192.168.1.5/255.255.255.0 (anything but 1), gateway 192.168.1.1
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> mkay
[02:18] <Pelo> limp,  make sure the hdd is powered on
[02:18] <dancor> truna: are ports 'closed' until a service listens on them?
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> brb
[02:18] <jeriko> truna: not "screen" the app, but the "screens and displays" config tool under System > Administration
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> lemme try
[02:18] <jdh6403> where is the 3d windows effect in compizconfig  i cant find it anywhere
[02:18] <dka7414> does anyone have any advise on how to get webcams to work with gutsy
[02:18] <Pelo> dka7414, pray
[02:18] <Obelich> vocx we try to enable compiz fusion buth say knot enable
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> Kevin`, just checking
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> thats the XP settings
[02:18] <dka7414> lol
[02:18] <truna> dancor yes close unless some servicing app is listening on it
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> rght?
[02:18] <crush_groove> !webcam
[02:18] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:18] <Kevin`> yes
[02:18] <Clay_The_Arc> kk
[02:18] <limp> Pelo, lol, of course it is :) ubuntu sends me an error saying "unable to mount volume"
[02:18] <RB2> jdh6403, I didn't think that made it into Gutsy. :-/
[02:18] <Obelich> and i serch in google buth dont see nafin :(
[02:18] <truna> jeriko,  oh, i dont know what that is
[02:18] <dka7414> thank u ubotu
[02:18] <vocx> Obelich, if it is S3 Unichrome Pro I must say that it will not work with Desktop effects because the 3D drivers are buggy. So there is no way. Sorry.
[02:19] <Pelo> limp, have you tried to manualy mount it ?
[02:19] <limp> Pelo, how do you do that?
[02:19] <jdh6403> ok RB2  thanks   i didnt know if i was missing something or what
[02:19] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc also set dns to 192.168.1.1, or to your isp server.. i'm not sure if ipmasq installs dns but I think it does
[02:19] <crush_groove> jdh6403, system/preferences/advanced desktop settings
[02:19] <limp> Pelo, i mean, the command
[02:19] <RB2> jdh6403, I was looking for them after install too. ;)
[02:19] <Pelo> limp,  open a terminal and type blkid,  tell me the /dev/....  of the hdd in question
[02:19] <sk_> where can i get help on installing broadcam wifi drivers
[02:20] <sk_> :(
[02:20] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc you should be able to let it automatically configure everything, also
[02:20] <jdh6403> looks neat as heck RB2, but dont look like it is there
[02:20] <crush_groove> !wifi
[02:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:20] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc once the linux side is set up right
[02:20] <sk_> it doesn't list my card
[02:20] <Obelich> anyone can tell me the chanel ubuntu in spanish plz
[02:20] <Kevin`> why does everyone seem to have broadcom :/
[02:20] <Cromag> !es
[02:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:20] <IdleOne> what is the command to rename a file?
[02:20] <truna> mv
[02:20] <fsanlu> is the hotplug for usb devices an OS setting or a hardware setting? i cant find it in the bios.. it mounted my drives properly after a reboot..
[02:20] <IdleOne> truna: ty
[02:20] <Clay_The_Arc> Kevin`,  can we talk in PM?
[02:20] <Kevin`> Clay_The_Arc yes
[02:21] <limp> Pelo, sdb5
[02:21] <Pelo> limp ok two commands    sudo mkdir /media/usb  and  sudo mount /dev/sdb5 -t ntfs /media/usb
[02:21] <truna> fsanlu, man udev  and man udevinfo
[02:21] <Pelo> Kevin`, you only notice those because they are the only one asking for help
[02:21] <monchevique> a
[02:21] <Kevin`> Pelo hmm, thats possible
[02:21] <limp> Pelo, Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use.
[02:22] <Thoth> can ayone tell me how to use the color codes in XChat?
[02:22] <c0nka> pelo; still doesnt work
[02:22] <Monobi> noob needs help (me)... what's LVM ?
[02:22] <Thorsten11> hmmm
[02:22] <c0nka> the only linux that works is pclinuxos
[02:22] <truna> Thoth, this is not xchat support channel
[02:22] <Cromag> !LVM
[02:22] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:22] <Thoth> is there one?
[02:22] <Pelo> limp, unplug the usb external drive,  turn off computer , I mean turn off , not restart,   then plug it back in and turn it back on
[02:22] <truna> Thoth, dont know, use  /list   and find out
[02:23] <limp> Pelo, brb then
[02:23] <Thoth> it's just that Xchat crashes when I do
[02:23] <Xintruder> dell only has one type of laptop with preinstalled ubuntu huh ?
[02:23] <randorfer> pelo that wont take the flag off, you need to boot up in windows and correctly shutdown with the external connected to remove the flag
[02:23] <Pelo> randorfer, too late,  he's gone to reboot already
[02:23] <truna> Xintruder, http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility <-- for customization
[02:23] <randorfer> pelo, if its not mounted it wont remove the flag on shutdown
[02:24] <Xintruder> truna, camera is not an option :(
[02:24] <truna> Xintruder, why not?
[02:25] <Xintruder> i dont know, dell says that.
[02:25] <tuntun> look, im about to set swappiness to zero because FlightGear swaps like mad when any other app is open, what will happen when it runs out of memeory?
[02:25] <rainwalker> is the firefox that comes with gutsy the same as the normal one?
[02:25] <truna> Xintruder, oh well
[02:25] <sk_> anybody here have a presario v6000
[02:25] <linux_> is there a secure web browser for ubuntu ? also how do i config se linux???
[02:25] <axscode> how can i check if my video card can handle XGL? or AIGLX?
[02:25] <truna> tuntun try and find out? :)
[02:25] <Pelo> sk_, you would do better to ask a specific question regarding your problem
[02:26] <yjeffrey> how can you install Firefox 2 in ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[02:26] <sk_> i need help with broadcom wifi
[02:26] <randorfer> tuntun it will be slow?  ram and swap space are just there to help scheduling algorithms be faster
[02:26] <hikenboot> greetings all--i have a wierd problem the part of the menu on my windows which you use to grab and drag windows  around with is missing
[02:26] <Pelo> linux_, what do you mean by secure and selinux is already in the kernel
[02:26] <otto_> yjeffrey, did you check backports?
[02:26] <sk_> i've tried everything (almost everything) and nothing seems to work
[02:26] <hikenboot> any ideas
[02:26] <yjeffrey> no,is it there?
[02:26] <jcg42> I set up dual monitors and it seems to work fine except compiz won't work. Can anyone tell me how I can fix this?
[02:26] <Pelo> !wifi | sk_
[02:26] <ubotu> sk_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:26] <truna> linux_, secure web browser? the server serving must use security measures like ssl...
[02:26] <xtas> I installed Ubuntu few days ago and almost all my friends are whining about my characters ain't showing correctly. I mean öäå. I use Xchat and they use mIRC
[02:26] <randorfer> tuntun when you run out of ram and swap it has to search your whole harddrive for the files it needs everytime it needs to find them
[02:26] <otto_> yjeffrey, I would guess it would be
[02:26] <sk_> it doesnt mention 943xx
[02:27] <sk_> :-\
[02:27] <yjeffrey> ok
[02:27] <saxofoner> If I install ubuntu-minimal and upgrade to ubuntu studio, does it do the kernel updates that fix midi timing?
[02:27] <Pelo> xtas, the problem is wht them ,  mirc needs an upgrade to use utf-8 correctly
[02:27] <IdleOne> hikenboot: hold down alt and click to move your window around. can you see the top of the window?
[02:27] <fsanlu> OHHH I FIXED IT. i found in the driver manager "usbmount" installed it and it works wonders now :]
[02:27] <linux_> ok thank you truna, but do you know how i can config selinx?
[02:27] <vocx> sk_, search the forums. You probably will read post by users with your same hardware.
[02:27] <Pelo> sk_, improvise or use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[02:27] <xtas> hmm. okay. but its kinda odd when 80% of people are complaining I think its my prob
[02:27] <hikenboot> no i cannot see it and i cant drag it
[02:27] <unagi> whenever it urn the brightness down on my laptop the screen goes black and i cant get it back on anyone know why?
[02:27] <sk_> I tried the windows driver
[02:27] <sk_> it doesn't work.
[02:28] <truna> linux_, am not familiar of the minimum requirements of SELINUX..surely you can find articles on goggle
[02:28] <tuntun> randorfer: how much swap would FlightGear use?
[02:28] <Pelo> sk_, I'll agree with vocx  just this once,  check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:28] <linux_> all right thank you truna:)
[02:28] <randorfer> tuntun I have no idea
[02:28] <saxofoner> Does anybody know if upgrading through synaptic upgrades the kernel?
[02:28] <truna> linux_, good luck
[02:29] <otto_> anyone know how I can make ubuntu-server not use dhcp by default?
[02:29] <IdleOne> hikenboot: while holding the alt key you can click anywhere in the window to move it aorund. have you tried that?
[02:29] <jason> changed some visual aspects, and now i can't get back the classic 'cube' view of the desktops, how do i reenable it?
[02:29] <truna> otto_, you set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:29] <Pelo> saxofoner, when kernel updates become available in the repos the are ugraded using synaptic/apt yes
[02:29] <XxValetexX> how stable is enlightenment? better then KDE?
[02:29] <otto_> truna, but can I have it prompt me for info at install?
[02:29] <saxofoner> Pelo: Cool, thanks.
[02:29] <IdleOne> XxValetexX: try them both and see for yourself
[02:30] <Pelo> jason, ask in #compiz-fusion
[02:30] <hikenboot> yes it doesnt move
[02:30] <jcg42> Does compiz not work with Xinerama?
[02:30] <Shpook> I just installed KDE alongside gnome, and now it's asking which display manager to use as default(GDM or KDM). What exactly would be the difference?
[02:30] <truna> otto_, do you have a linux already? you can look at the liveCD  and see how it looks for wireless connectivity
[02:30] <unagi> lol
[02:30] <sigra> hmm well I made a user name matching on both boxes but only 1 computer shows up and it does not allow me to see anything when i open it
[02:30] <unagi> lots
[02:30] <Pelo> jcg42, I beleive so, ask in #compiz to be sure
[02:30] <tuntun> what about setting swappiness to
[02:30] <linux_> one more thing... does anyone know how to make apps auto boot ? like to make firefox do an auto open when linux starts?
[02:30] <tuntun> 1
[02:31] <otto_> truna, ubuntu-server does not install from a live cd and I am not using wireless...I just want to set a static IP during install rather than have it use dhcp
[02:31] <astro76> Shpook, looks mostly
[02:31] <Leechzilla> I have dual monitor with separate with separate X screens, and it won't let me have Firefox on both my screens. When I try to run firefox on my other screen, it says it's already running and not responding, and I should close it before running it. So I can have it on only either of the screens
[02:31] <tuntun> now, how do i change the swappiness value? :)
[02:31] <RB2> linux_, System --> Preferences --> Sessions
[02:31] <Pelo> linux_, open ff and all the other aps you want to start on startup and close everyting else,  goto menu > system > prefs > session > 3rd tab,  save session
[02:31] <truna> otto_, i dont recall the prompts for server installs..but the file you need to  modify is  /etc/network/interfaces
[02:31] <Nrbelex> How can I buy a completely Ubuntu compatible USB wireless network card!?
[02:32] <astro76> Shpook, gdm is the one you had, kdm is kde's
[02:32] <linux_> THANK YOU !!!
[02:32] <vocx> !startup | linux_
[02:32] <ubotu> linux_: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:32] <traiani> it seems like I'm missing a perl-devel package or something ... some module installs are failing and it looks like they're looking for perl headers.  Could anyone look at this error output? http://rafb.net/p/5mv2B122.html
[02:32] <iCEifer> can anyone think why my resolution is set correctly but the display is not taking up the whole LCD? if I change the refresh rate to 75 HZ it takes up the whole LCD but my LCD says out of range?
[02:32] <astro76> Shpook, oh, it's the login window in case you didn't know ;)
[02:32] <tuntun> !swap
[02:32] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:32] <Pelo> Nrbelex, check the models here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport or try asking in #hardware
[02:32] <Shpook> astro76: So it'll only affect the login window?
[02:33] <ubuntu-mx> HI everyone !! I have some trouble with a wireless card a rtl8185, i have comipiled the drivers r8180 (patched por injention), and are acitve but, I can't rise the interface wlan0, some one can help me ?? :)
[02:33] <Nrbelex> Pelo - thanks
[02:33] <vendetta> hi everyone.
[02:33] <truna> Nrbelex, a lil tip, do not buy Broadcom base wifi nic cards, seems lots of people have issues with its driver
[02:33] <Pelo> later folks
[02:33] <jason> haha, check this out, go to the first hit http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=compiz+fusion+cube+rotate+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[02:33] <astro76> Shpook, yeah
[02:33] <RB2> iCEifer, I'm assuming that the LCD is connected via a 15-pin VGA cable and not a DVI, correct?
[02:33] <jason> expired howto
[02:33] <iCEifer> RB2, yes.
[02:33] <Shpook> astro76: Ohhh! Well in that case, I like KDE's much better.
[02:33] <tr> hi
[02:34] <Shpook> astro76: Thanks for clearing that up for me! :-)
[02:34] <iCEifer> RB2, 1440x900 at 60Hz is the native res....Envision 19" Wide LCD....someone told me my BusID might be wrong and I did a grep command and got this, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller....and my line is set to  BusID  "PCI:0:2:0"
[02:34] <zenobius> anyone got any idea why most of my apps now take a 20sec longer to load?
[02:34] <RB2> iCEifer, Not too familiar with the BusID, maybe someone else is here.
[02:34] <truna> ubuntu-mx, you can try ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0  if it doesnt, go to the nm gui and activate there?
[02:35] <otto_> someone was having a laugh and added wait 20 to every item in your menu?
[02:35] <iCEifer> RB2, would the VGA cable be an issue?
[02:35] <truna> zenobius, if you have 128meg of memory, that may happen?
[02:35] <RB2> iCEifer, Well, with DVI, the refresh rate doesn't matter (to the best of my knowledge), but as far as the VGA cable being related to the BusID, def. not.
[02:35] <jeriko> is anyone here using nvidia drivers with dual-monitors?
[02:36] <Leechzilla> jeriko, yes, I am
[02:36] <zenobius> truna, otto_ : amd 1.8ghz 1gbddr233mhz ram, 120gb hd
[02:36] <vendetta> i have trouble to hear my sound-card after i have plugged it into another PCI slot. i guess it is still configured with the previous PCI slot ID. how can i learn the new slot ID and how to configure it?
[02:36] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx truna:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up / down is another way to do it
[02:36] <truna> zenobius, i dont know...which app is taking so long to load?
[02:36] <ubuntu-mx> doesn't work from ifup ifdown o nm gui !
[02:36] <zenobius> truna, otto_: all apps were instantaneous till about 3-5 days ago
[02:36] <RB2> iCEifer, Let me take a peek at my xorg, hold on.
[02:37] <iCEifer> RB2, k, thanks.
[02:37] <zenobius> truna: now evolution freezes every 5mins for about 20-30secs
[02:37] <truna> ubuntu-mx, umm try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:37] <pvl> does anyone here have conky running?
[02:37] <jeriko> Leechzilla: i just added a 2nd monitor, but when i extend default screen to the right, my resolution is "zoomed". Have you seen this?
[02:38] <jeriko> if i run single monitor the resolution is fine
[02:38] <saxofoner> jeriko: which display thing are you using, twinview?
[02:38] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Hm, I'm not using it with xinerama. I'm using separate X screens
[02:38] <jeriko> saxofoner: hrm, i'm not sure i know
[02:38] <RB2> iCEifer, Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the BusID shouldn't matter; it depends on the slot. Hmmmm
[02:38] <ubuntu-mx> neither that works !! I have tried ever HOWTO, but nothing :(
[02:38] <tuntun> where is the shortcut to ccsm?
[02:38] <truna> zenobius, try  hdparm -Tt /dev/sda1   replace sda1 with the correct partition and tell us how fast is it reading?
[02:38] <tr> i have installed a fresh copy of ubuntu on my xga-notebook. any idea where to get/how to get a decent gnome theme which doesnt eat up half my screen with those wide controls and window borders?
[02:39] <jeriko> saxofoner: twinview? Leechzilla: xinerama?
[02:39] <RB2> iCEifer, Did you try changing the refresh rate in your xorg.conf ?
[02:39] <randorfer> tr gnome-look.org
[02:39] <zenobius> truna: partition? for the main system?
[02:39] <saxofoner> Jeriko:  You don't know if its twinview or xinerama?
[02:39] <truna> zenobius, sure..try it
[02:39] <Qw3rty> can someone help me get the splash screen to stop switching to text if the filesystem check seems to slow it down?
[02:39] <jeriko> saxofoner: no how do i tell?
[02:39] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Check it in nvidia-settings, under X Server Display Configuration
[02:39] <saxofoner> yeah
[02:39] <jeriko> i'm not too familiar with linux gui
[02:39] <iCEifer> RB2, you mean the vsync and horiz rates? yeah
[02:39] <tuntun> got it, sys>prefs>advanced...
[02:39] <truna> zenobius, you seem to imply there is secondary system from main?
[02:39] <tr> randorfer: ill have a look, thx
[02:39] <saxofoner> jeriko:  alt-f2, type nvidia-settings
[02:40] <jeriko> Leechzilla: in xorg.conf or is there an application?
[02:40] <saxofoner> ...
[02:40] <ubuntu-mx> there is a another way to rise an wlan interface??
[02:40] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Just run nvidia-settings, and you can see it in there
[02:40] <RB2> iCEifer, What video card?
[02:40] <jeriko> Leechzilla: 1 screen, xinerama
[02:40] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx what exactly are you trying to do
[02:40] <saxofoner> jeriko: do you have both monitors in right now?
[02:41] <jeriko> ya
[02:41] <jeriko> i just plugged in 2nd
[02:41] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx tell me what iwconfig says to you
[02:41] <saxofoner> jeriko: ctrl alt backspace to restart your xserver
[02:41] <ubuntu-mx> activate my wireless with a patched drivers for aireplay, (injection mode)
[02:41] <iCEifer> RB2, Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[02:41] <saxofoner> jeriko: maybe then xinerama will find the monitor
[02:41] <Xintruder> guys, did u see the laptop that comes with ubuntu preinstalled?
[02:42] <IdleOne> !ot | Xintruder
[02:42] <Soskel> I need some help, I executed a ssh command to transfer mirror files from a svn server, to my server, now, should I create a cron job with that same command to keep the mirror files updated? Won't it overwrite files already updated?
[02:42] <ubotu> Xintruder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:42] <saxofoner> Xintruder: Dellbuntus?  And there are other sellers.
[02:42] <jeriko> saxofoner: newp
[02:42] <Xbehave> i need to use a custom way of mounting my home is this possible
[02:42] <saxofoner> hm
[02:42] <jason> do i need to restart x to load new ccsm settings?
[02:42] <tr> randorfer: err... where to go? gtk 1.x 2.x metacity compiz etc. ppp...? its a plain 7.10 install, no gadgets yet
[02:42] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx for that you need to set your wireless into monitor mode
[02:42] <Xintruder> the dell one yes, im not sure if its the best laptop with ubuntu preinstalled
[02:42] <ubuntu-mx> only lo        no wireless extensions.
[02:42] <ubuntu-mx> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[02:42] <zenobius> truna: http://pastebin.com/m5433202a
[02:42] <saxofoner> jeriko: What sort of graphics card?
[02:42] <RB2> iCEifer, Does this happen to be an HP Pavilion?
[02:42] <randorfer> tr id go to gtk 2.x
[02:42] <Khajavi> does anay on have worked by remastersys?
[02:42] <IdleOne> Xintruder: this is still offtopic but check out system76.com
[02:42] <truna> ubuntu-mx, no wonder it does not come up
[02:42] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Doesn't your 2nd monitor show up under X server Display configuration?
[02:42] <tr> thx
[02:42] <jeriko> saxofoner: nividia quadro fx 550
[02:42] <unagi> whenever it urn the brightness down on my laptop the screen goes black and i cant get it back on anyone know why?
[02:43] <saxofoner> Xintruder: why do you want preinstalled?  A thinkpad is the best laptop, imo.
[02:43] <iCEifer> RB2, no...Dell Optiplex
[02:43] <ubuntu-mx> nop
[02:43] <jeriko> Leechzilla: it does yes
[02:43] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx and you have your wireless setup at wlan0?
[02:43] <Xintruder> ok, sorry :/
[02:43] <RB2> iCEifer, ok, I just googled the chipset and got a few hits back on discussions wrt the same symptoms
[02:43] <ubuntu-mx> how i do that?
[02:44] <IdleOne> Xintruder: np system76 sells pc's and laptops with ubuntu installed
[02:44] <saxofoner> jeriko:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[02:44] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Disable xinerama, click on configure and choose twinview, and restart the xserver and see if that solves the problem
[02:44] <randorfer> if so sudo iwconfig wlan0 up should bring up the interface but not into monitor mode wich is what you need for injection.  If you are interested in that look at the man pages for iwconfig and google kismet
[02:44] <iCEifer> RB2, really?
[02:44] <iCEifer> RB2, so it's the video card and not the LCD?
[02:44] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx did you ever setup your wireless?
[02:44] <truna> zenobius, which partition is giving you problems again?
[02:44] <zenobius> IdleOne, Xintruder: it warehouse in adelaide are also selling ubuntu-compiz machines as a comparison alongside vista machines
[02:44] <saxofoner> jeriko: never mind, Leechzilla has a better idea
[02:44] <jeriko> aah great, thx for link saxofoner
[02:44] <ubuntu-mx> with NDISWRAPPER yes !
[02:44] <jeriko> Leechzilla: will try thx
[02:45] <tuntun> has anyone else messed around with compiz's motion blur? its so trippy...
[02:45] <RB2> iCEifer, It looks like xorg settings to me, but you might want to search the forums.
[02:45] <saxofoner> Twinview is *for* Nvidia cards.  BTW I have a Quadro 570M, it's a nice card eh?
[02:45] <ubuntu-mx> but I need those drivers for a wireless security
[02:45] <Kevin`> mmm trippy
[02:45] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx if you are using ndiswrapper then you cannot use monitor mode / packet injection, rtfm on aircrack-ng before you try to use it...
[02:45] <zenobius> truna: not partition specific. apps are taking way to long to load. evolution freeze periodically
[02:45] <saxofoner> tuntun: It bugs me
[02:45] <iCEifer> RB2, what did you search under google?
[02:45] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx what wireless card do you have
[02:46] <ubuntu-mx> an RTL8185L
[02:46] <tuntun> yeah, its not usable, but its fun for a few seconds :P
[02:46] <truna> zenobius, paste mount instead, i want to know which partition is mounted to which?
[02:46] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx ie what is the result of lspci | grep Wireless
[02:46] <RB2> iCEifer, either "Ubuntu Gutsy Intel 82945G refresh rate" or "Ubuntu Intel 82945G refresh rate"
[02:46]  * syc_ brb, cuci piring
[02:46] <saxofoner> tuntun: the problem is that it's not actually "motion blur" in the good sense
[02:46] <saxofoner> it's like crappy delaying
[02:46] <ubuntu-mx> appears there but say something like unclaimed !!
[02:46] <saxofoner> ha
[02:47] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx just copy and paste what it says
[02:47] <truna> zenobius, fdisk -l doesnt tell me much
[02:47] <zenobius> truna: http://pastebin.com/m416af18f
[02:47] <tuntun> what does window blur do?
[02:47] <the-erm> Has anyone ever managed to get 3 monitors working on 2 video cards?
[02:47] <Soskel> I need some help, I executed a ssh command to transfer mirror files from a svn server, to my server, now, should I create a cron job with that same command to keep the mirror files updated? or will that just overwrite the entire 9GB archive?
[02:47] <ubuntu-mx> 07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[02:47] <saxofoner> tuntun: It blurs inactive windows I believe
[02:47] <the-erm> I thought blur blured when moving ...
[02:47] <RB2> iCEifer, sry I couldn't be more help.
[02:48] <saxofoner> oh maybe
[02:48] <saxofoner> window motion blur?  yeah I think you're right
[02:48] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx alright so you need to find the linux driver for that card and install it / get it setup before you begin thinking about packet injection
[02:48] <IdleOne> Soskel: that would transfer the entire 9gb. need to look into syncing
[02:48] <Oli``> Soskel: isn't rsync a better option?
[02:48] <zenobius> truna: dmesg output -> http://pastebin.com/mfa2cd9d
[02:48] <iCEifer> RB2, np...thanks
[02:48] <saxofoner> see you all later
[02:48] <IdleOne> Soskel: rsynch there ya go. thanks Oli``
[02:48] <Soskel> Oli``: and IdleOne I can't get resync access to the server, any other way?
[02:49] <c0nka> i cant get ubuntu to work
[02:49] <zenobius> C0nka: can you help me get my car working. it wont work
[02:49] <ubuntu-mx> I have it an is compiled !! also installed but no appears the Wlan0 !! this is my real issue
[02:49] <Oli``> Soskel: rsync needs special access?
[02:49] <Soskel> Oli``: apparently
[02:49] <IdleOne> Soskel: wonder if you could get cron to check for new files and differences in existing files and have it download just those
[02:49] <zenobius> c0nka: see how futile such a request is
[02:49] <Xintruder> is there a big difference between ubuntu and mac (apple) leapord?? im new close to buying a laptop sorry for the noob question
[02:50] <jeriko> Leechzilla: twinview sets the resolution properly it seems, but it made my wallpaper dissapear?
[02:50] <Soskel> IdleOne: that would be wonderful, but I have no idea how to do that
[02:50] <truna> zenobius, try  hdparm -Tt /dev/sdb7  and lets see how fast it reads
[02:50] <ubuntu-mx> i'm connected with ndiswrapper
[02:50] <tuntun> now is there a way to do automatic error reporting after compiz hangs the system and requires a hard reset?
[02:50] <Smegzor> Is it possible to run Gnome and KDE at the same time?
[02:50] <c0nka> whenever i boot ubuntu it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46.4hz" then it goes on a black screen
[02:50] <IdleOne> Soskel: wish i did also
[02:50] <Soskel> thanks anyway IdleOne
[02:51] <zenobius> truna: http://pastebin.com/m2d87d5ca
[02:51] <TigranG> Smegzor yes, by adding it to sessions
[02:51] <Oli``> Soskel: yeah you could write a little shell script to go through each file (using "find .") and check the versions (last edit) and upload the older ones. It'll take a couple of hours learning the shell scripting you need but it might do the job =)
[02:51] <vocx> Soskel, I'm pretty sure you are not the only one that has tried that. Search the forums. Maybe Programming Talk.
[02:51] <Smegzor> Is it a good idea or just silly?
[02:51] <Soskel> thank you Oli`` and vocx will do
[02:51] <Smegzor> its just that there are features in both that I really like but atm I'm either in 1 or the other.
[02:52] <truna> zenobius, it looks fast enuff..why it slows your load, am not sure,  look at free and tops  and see if any other apps hogging your cpu or memory
[02:52] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx id take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210958&page=3
[02:52] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Hm, try to set a wallpaper again. I never had any issues with the wallpaper though. Personally I use separate X screens instead of Twinview
[02:52] <IdleOne> Smegzor: cant run at same time nope
[02:52] <zenobius> truna: none
[02:52] <Smegzor> !ubutu sessions
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubutu sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <zenobius> truna: session cahce?
[02:52] <truna> zenobius, none what?
[02:52] <TigranG> Smegzor its not silly, I'm sure many people have done it. I don't know how to do it off the top of my head right now,  you can ask someone else or google
[02:52] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx seems there is no native support for your wireless (have to use ndiswrapper) and thus no injection possibilities yet
[02:52] <Oli``> Smegzor: do you mean running the respective managers (kdm and gdm) together? Not without spawning two X sessions and that won't work with one screen
[02:52] <Oli``> Smegzor: and a lot of hacking
[02:53] <tuntun> is there a way to do automatic error reporting after compiz hangs the system and requires a hard reset?
[02:53] <zenobius> truna: nothing creating large amount of cpu, ram, swap load...no zombies of inordinate time....
[02:53] <Smegzor> yeah. running them both at the same time on the same pc
[02:53] <IdleOne> Smegzor: you can run gnome apps in kde and kde apps in gnome
[02:53] <c0nka> whenever i boot ubuntu it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46.4hz" then it goes on a black screen
[02:53] <TigranG> Smegzor: oh, thats not what I was talking about
[02:53] <truna> zenobius, last one...ipcs  and see if lots of lines are empty on last row
[02:53] <Oli``> Smegzor: if you just mean running KDE apps in Gnome, or vice versa, that's no issue, but two sessions at the same time would be more taxing, I think
[02:53] <ubuntu-mx> :(, ok thanx for your help !! :)
[02:53] <ubuntu-mx> see ya !!
[02:53] <randorfer> ubuntu-mx have a good one
[02:53] <pvl> how accurate is conky?
[02:54] <IdleOne> c0nka: have you read the !xorg link?
[02:54] <truna> zenobius, other than that, i dont know what else can terribly slow your apps down
[02:54] <c0nka> yes
[02:54] <truna> zenobius, last one...ipcs  and see if lots of lines are empty on last column*
[02:54] <c0nka> i have
[02:54] <Smegzor> I know, but what is missing is the menu layout and stuff like that.  u're either in 1 or the other and if I need something in gnome that I just can't locate in kde or its something gnome specific like the places stuff, I'm forced to log out and change sessions
[02:54] <zenobius> reintall ubuntu her ei come
[02:54]  * Mr_Sonoma brb gonna fix a sammich
[02:54] <Smegzor> i have 2 processors and 4 gigs of ram.  taxing isn't an issue.
[02:54] <TigranG> zenobius: dust! :P
[02:55] <blitz_x> '
[02:55] <blitz_x> Smeagzor:2 monitors?
[02:55] <Smegzor> my pc was custom built to be schitzophenic
[02:56] <Smegzor> i'm in XP right now in linux
[02:56] <c0nka> yes
[02:56] <c0nka> yes
[02:56] <c0nka> i have
[02:56] <Smegzor> blitz_x: nah only 1
[02:56] <IdleOne> c0nka: did you try reconfiguring xorg?
[02:56] <TigranG> Smegzor: ur pc aint all that anymore then
[02:57] <Smegzor> oh well..  i'm going to play with sessions and see what can be done
[02:57] <c0nka> yeah
[02:57] <Joelito> Hi all, I got a question about mono & gmcs
[02:57] <TigranG> Smegzor: using sessions you'll choose which one to start
[02:57] <TigranG> can't run both at the same time
[02:57] <c0nka> idleone: yes
[02:57] <Joelito> I'm attempting to compile a simple GUI in the terminal
[02:57]  * TigranG why are laptop batteries so damn expensive
[02:57] <Smegzor> i really want a hybrid with the best features from gnome and kde
[02:57] <Joelito> gmcs ./myfile.cs
[02:57] <IdleOne> c0nka: for some reason I am having a hard time believing you
[02:57] <truna> TigranG, because they dont weight a ton?
[02:58] <c0nka> idleone: yeah ok
[02:58] <TigranG> lol yea they do truna
[02:58] <Joelito> and gmcs outputs: error CS0234: The type or namespace name `Windows' does not exist in the namespace `System'
[02:58] <peepsalot> what does "roaming mode enabled" mean for a wired ethernet connection in netowrk settings?
[02:58] <Qw3rty> can anyone help me figure out how to get my splash screen to stop switching to text?
[02:58] <zenobius>  the session manager, i just started gnome-terminal, and it takes ages to load, i then started 'gnome-terminal --sm-disable' and its instant
[02:58] <Smegzor> So can I start a new session without terminating the current one?
[02:58] <Joelito> I know I have the namespaces, but how to add the references by the command line?
[02:58] <Khajavi> does any one worked with ""remastersys""
[02:58] <zenobius> Smegzor: you need xnest
[02:59] <Smegzor> i have and use that
[02:59] <sung_> 41
[02:59] <Smegzor> never to connect to my own pc tho, only others
[02:59] <feihung> hello , How to mount usb from terminal , thanks
[02:59] <zenobius> Smegzor: i use ssh username@remotemachine -X for that
[03:00] <PirateHead> feihung: I'm interested in knowing that, too. :-)
[03:00] <c0nka> idleone: thanks for the help
[03:00] <jhlxd> 大家好，有用中文的吗？
[03:00] <zenobius> Smegzor: or if its for CLI i use the screen prog after that point
[03:00] <dg19075> !usb
[03:00] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:00] <releod> Does anyone know how to run Rhythm Box Music Player remotely via the Command Line Interface?
[03:00] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: I had a bug in Launchpad about that, but my computer was fixed when I had to reinstall.
[03:00] <TigranG> feihung and PirateHead: A Bunch of tutorials and links, like dg19 just gave
[03:00] <TigranG> search before asking
[03:00] <PirateHead> !jp | jhlxd
[03:00] <ubotu> jhlxd: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[03:00] <IdleOne> c0nka: reason why I dont believe you is because had you reconfigured xorg you would of had to log out for the hanges to take effect and that would of meant that your irc client would have quit and it hasnt.
[03:00] <rodolfo> folks when i'm playing a game the window suddenly restores and the game crashes. i cant take back control. this usually happens as if the computer had detected inactivity while i was playing. is there a way to fix this?
[03:01] <vocx> !zh
[03:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[03:01] <jhlxd> zh
[03:01] <fed_mandy> heloe
[03:01] <Qw3rty> piratehead: so, you're suggesting that i just reinstall ubuntu?
[03:01] <feihung> TigranG can you give me some link , thanks
[03:01] <Leechzilla> IdleOne: Not if the irc client is running in screen
[03:01] <jhlxd> hello
[03:01] <Joelito> anyone?
[03:01] <TigranG> feihung: check the link from ubotu
[03:01] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: Nope, just letting you know that reinstalling happened to work for me.
[03:01] <Leechzilla> :P
[03:01] <randorfer> Qw3rty whats your problem?? very few things require reinstalling
[03:01] <jhlxd> ex-chat
[03:01] <feihung> TigranG , I just login to this forum
[03:02] <IdleOne> Leechzilla: he hasnt reconfigured xorg and he was given the link to the factoid you think he is running irc in scree?
[03:02] <Smegzor> awesome!  I'm in Gnome and KDE at the same time on my pc! :D
[03:02] <IdleOne> screen
[03:02] <c0nka> idleone: i am on my laptop and if i was on irc on my ubuntu system it means i can go on it
[03:02] <TigranG> !usb | feihung
[03:02] <ubotu> feihung: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:02] <TigranG> Hmm. Wait, he gave the wrong one
[03:02] <Qw3rty> radnorfer: everytime i try to boot up, the splash screen switches to text and takes a while to check the filesystems
[03:02] <feihung> TigrantG Thanks
[03:02] <feihung> ubotu thanks
[03:02] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:02] <PirateHead> feihung: That probably wont' be too useful.
[03:03] <IdleOne> c0nka: then tell us what you have done explain the symptoms and any changes if any since reconfiguring. saying IT DONT WORK!!! HELP ME!!! isnt going to get you any help
[03:03] <randorfer> Qw3rty:  thats normal just make sure your shutting down correctly, when it checks the filesystem it means that something wasn't shutdown correctly / the filesystem is possibly corrupted
[03:04] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: Is it doing that every time you boot up?
[03:04] <releod> Does anyone know how to run Rhythm Box Music Player remotely via the Command Line Interface?
[03:04] <jeriko> Leechzilla: resetting wallpaper worked :)
[03:04] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: It's only normally supposed to do so every once in a while.
[03:04]  * AutoMatriX wants to know if ithereis a SIMPLY , supersiple method to have some rframework on jpg files
[03:04] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Great! :)
[03:04] <jeriko> thx again, dual 20" :D
[03:04] <Qw3rty> randorfer and piratehead: it does it everytime i try to boot up, and detects no errors
[03:04] <zenobius> http://thefreedesktop.blogspot.com/2007/09/ubuntu-on-road-to-bloat.html
[03:04] <Smegzor> For some reason, my terminal server running Xnest doesn't update its screen properly.  If I cover it with another window its a major job getting it to repaint itself.  I've been told thats not normal, but I don't know what to do to fix it.
[03:04] <Leechzilla> jeriko: Nice. I'll buy dual 24" by around feb
[03:05] <c0nka> idleone: well i did the configure were it goes step by step 4 u and its still the same
[03:05] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: That isn't normal, then. It also isn't the same bug that I filed on Launchpad awhile ago. Make sure that when you ask for help with that bug you mention that it is checking the filesystem every time you boot.
[03:05] <AutoMatriX> Ayn Gimp user in here ? I want only a part of a picture and sant to make anoter file sith it ??? question ; HOW
[03:05] <zenobius> Smegzor: your running a nested xsession on a remote server?
[03:05] <jcg42> I have dual monitor set up using TwinView and I was wondering I could set up a different wallpaper in each monitor instead of on big wallpaper.
[03:05] <Leechzilla> AutoMatriX: crop it
[03:05] <Smegzor> normally yes though right now the session is on the same computer
[03:06] <Khajavi> any one worked with remastersys?
[03:06] <PirateHead> !anyone | Khajavi
[03:06] <ubotu> Khajavi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:06] <AutoMatriX> Leechzilla, nice idea but with waht tyoe of prgram ?
[03:06] <randorfer> c0nka what are you trying to do?
[03:06] <zenobius> jcg42: no, you need KDE for that
[03:06] <Leechzilla> AutoMatriX: Gimp
[03:06] <hanasaki> what do I need to install to get the select languages in the system/admin menus of gnome?
[03:06] <pdaoust> hey, folks, I have a question that's tangentially related to Ubuntu: is it safe to interrupt an fsck? (ext3 filesystem)
[03:06] <Smegzor> its still doing it.  i opened a terminal and ran mc, if i leave the session window and come back the terminal window is white.  i can force it to redraw by dragging it off the screen and back, but I shouldn't need to.
[03:06] <TigranG> AutoMatriX: using gimp./..
[03:06] <AutoMatriX> Leechzilla, do you stay on a liitle while ?
[03:07] <zenobius> PirateHead: feel powerful?
[03:07] <Leechzilla> jcg42: Well you could use gimp to join the two wallpapers as a large one and set that as a single wallpaper, and it'll look like you have separate wallpapers
[03:07] <PirateHead> hanasaki: Nothing. System -> Administration -> Language Support
[03:07] <c0nka> randorfer: trying to get ubuntu to work
[03:07] <PirateHead> zenobius: No -- am I being bossy? Why do you ask?
[03:07] <fotoflo> hey all, ive got a newly installed ubuntu with openSSH and whenever i try to login, it presents the login prompt immediately, but i have to wait like 30 seconds for a password prompt.... anyone encounter this before?
[03:07] <Smegzor> there's probably a setting somewhere to improve redrawing but I can't find it.
[03:07] <Leechzilla> assuming the screens have the same resolution
[03:07] <c0nka> randorfer: whenever i boot ubuntu it says on my screen "out of timing...v-87hz...h-46.4hz" then it goes on a black screen
[03:07] <neil_d> via the command line how do I enable remote login ?
[03:07] <Leechzilla> AutoMatriX: yeah
[03:08] <randorfer> c0nka try sudo Xorg --configure
[03:08] <pdaoust> fotoflo: no, that sounds rather long indeed. It does usually take a while -- 5 seconds or thereabouts -- but not 30
[03:08] <fed_mandy> helow
[03:08] <zenobius> PirateHead:does anybody know if.... (who the hell am i supposed to talk to directly, there is no index here on who has what professions.)
[03:08] <randorfer> then sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[03:08] <c0nka> randorfer: it says " comand 'sudo' is available in '/usr/bin/sudo'
[03:08] <randorfer> then sudo mv ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:08] <zenobius> PirateHead: so your little spaz attack about generalities...doesnt help new comers
[03:08] <AutoMatriX> Leechzilla, that's nice, I'm a harworking pupil but I'm not that youg anymore, o I jope youll have some time
[03:08] <truna> fotoflo, same in a terminal when you ssh localhost?
[03:09] <randorfer> c0nka alirght then do /usr/bin/sudo su
[03:09] <randorfer> then cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[03:09] <randorfer> then Xorg --configure
[03:09] <PirateHead> zenobius: I disagree. As ubotu's "anyone" message suggests, it is far more helpful if newcomers simply ask their question rather than trying to single out a person who will know the answer before even asking. That way, somebody who knows can respond. If you'd like to discuss this further, let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:10] <randorfer> then mv ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:10] <releod> Does anyone know how to set Rhythmbox to load on startup? (Gutsy 7.10)
[03:10] <pdaoust> so... does anybody know if it's safe to terminate an fsck? I'm currently in pass 1D...
[03:10] <zenobius> PirateHead: so they dont ask becuase they dont know who to ask....genius logic
[03:10] <TigranG> reloeod: at it to sessions startup
[03:10] <pdaoust> releod: Go to System > Preferences > Sessions
[03:10] <randorfer> c0nka and finish by doing ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x
[03:10] <pdaoust> releod: and then... one sec...
[03:10] <Leechzilla> AutoMatriX: Open the image in gimp, hit R to select the rectangle selection tool, select the area of the image you wanna crop to, and then go to Image > Crop to Selection, and save.
[03:10] <randorfer> c0nka any troubles?
[03:11] <astro76> !ot | zenobius
[03:11] <ubotu> zenobius: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:11] <rodolfo> releod: system > preferences > sessions
[03:11] <peepsalot> what does "roaming mode" mean in network settings?
[03:11] <Smegzor> pdaoust: I'm no expert but I have interrupted my pc doing that several times and I'm still here.
[03:11] <c0nka> randorfer: it says " comand 'sudo' is available in '/usr/bin/sudo
[03:11] <pdaoust> releod: okay, here we go: the first tab is 'Startup Programs'; just go 'Add' and type rhythmbox in the 'Command' field
[03:11] <c0nka> randorfer: still no look
[03:11] <peepsalot> doesn't make any sense, i've never heard of such a thing
[03:11] <neil_d> via the command line how do I enable remote login ?
[03:11] <pdaoust> Smegzor: Ahhh, but is your data still here too?
[03:11] <randorfer> c0nka did you do /usr/bin/sudo su
[03:11] <TigranG> Leechzilla: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=5 <-Why is it not free! I would buy it tho
[03:11] <zenobius> so why is sessions causing my computer to slow down?
[03:11] <Smegzor> afaik it simply runs the check again at the next boot until it manages to complete it
[03:11] <pdaoust> (thanks for the response tho)
[03:11] <randorfer> c0nka ?
[03:11] <Smegzor> yes it is
[03:12] <AutoMatriX> Leechzilla, I was notthus far, in fact I was just looking a picture to edit, and I'm soglad taht TheGimp is already installend
[03:12] <zenobius> why doesnt session manger have the function to 'wipe-session'
[03:12] <pdaoust> Smegzor: hmmm...
[03:12] <c0nka> randorfer: yep
[03:12] <Qw3rty> piratehead: i did a bit of googling earlier and it seems like it might have something to do with the drives being fat32
[03:12] <rodolfo> releod: add the program with this command: rhythmbox
[03:12] <randorfer> c0nka and what did it say
[03:12] <Khajavi> I created livecd with remastersys and now I can run it but I when I want run sudo it ask me password. and it does not work
[03:12] <c0nka> randorfer: error
[03:12] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: that could be so. Can you back up the data and reformat them as ext3?
[03:12] <releod> pdaoust: rodolfo: thanks guys :)
[03:12] <randorfer> c0nka do you know your root password?
[03:12] <pdaoust> releod: no prob
[03:13] <c0nka> randorfer: yep
[03:13] <randorfer> c0nka then do su
[03:13] <ToddEDM> hey guys, are there any good games out for linux????
[03:13] <c0nka> randorfer: i think it needs reinstalling
[03:13] <releod> do either of you know how to set it to hide the gui in the upper "task bar"
[03:13] <randorfer> c0nka and give it your root password
[03:13] <zenobius> ToddEDM: eve online is in the works
[03:13] <peepsalot> ToddEDM, what kind of games do you like?
[03:13] <releod> sorry, Notification Area
[03:13] <ToddEDM> FPS or mmo?
[03:13] <pdaoust> Smegzor: y'see, I think I hosed my partition by starting fsck when it was mounted, and then it screwed up the superblock, and the root inode was not a directory, and so on and so forth... It's going on about thirty hours now, and I don't like sitting there and pressing 'y' every time it wants me to 'clone multiply-claimed blocks' or whatever. So I want to restart it with the -y option
[03:13] <Leechzilla> TigranG: Looks good
[03:13] <zenobius> ToddEDM: quake4 is there too
[03:14] <zenobius> ToddEDM: or even ryzsom
[03:14] <TigranG> Leechzilla: Yea, I've had my eye on it for a while
[03:14] <TigranG> Leechzilla: I really don't like gimp haha
[03:14] <randorfer> c0nka what did it say when you did that?
[03:14] <feihung> !usb | feihung
[03:14] <peepsalot> ToddEDM, i think wolfenstein enemy territory is on linux
[03:14] <PirateHead> ToddEDM: Warsow, Doom 3, and Quake 4 are all excellent FPS games for Linux. Half-Life, Team Fortress Arena, Counter-Strike, and other Steam-based games can be run through Wine on Linux.
[03:14] <rodolfo> !intel GMA
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel gma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <Qw3rty> piratehead: i have windows on both of them, so i don't think i can lol
[03:14] <peepsalot> ToddEDM, also chek out nexuiz
[03:14] <rodolfo> !i915
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i915 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <Smegzor> hmm..  i haven't managed a screw up on that scale yet :) I did have to manually answer yes through one check and I too would like to auto yes those.
[03:14] <Khajavi> when sudo ask me password I check lot of passwords but it does not work
[03:15] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: ext3 drivers are available for Windows.
[03:15] <c0nka> randorfer: error again
[03:15] <randorfer> rodolfo whats your question?
[03:15] <fotoflo> truna: sorry got a lot going on
[03:15] <c0nka> randorfer: i think it needs reinstalling
[03:15] <Leechzilla> TigranG: I'm not so familiar with it either. I'm fairly new to Linux. I'm more into photoshop and always wished there was a linux version
[03:15] <bloony> how do I burn mp3 files as audio cd in k3b? I get a msg that I need to decode the files to wave first.. I guess there is a way to make k3b to do this?
[03:15] <ToddEDM> thanks for all the suggestions guys
[03:15] <pvl> gparted cant read my ubuntu partition. does that mean that my ubuntu partition is corrupt?
[03:15] <zenobius> ToddEDM: nothing like farcry though
[03:15] <randorfer> c0nka, if it cant do su then yes, you should reinstall
[03:15] <fotoflo> truna: no passwd prompt is immediate on ssh localhost
[03:15] <PirateHead> ToddEDM: have fun. :-)
[03:15] <rodolfo> randorfer: games crashing when running...
[03:15] <Leechzilla> TigranG: Then I could stop rebooting :)
[03:15] <TigranG> Leechzilla: Pixel, its exactly like it. That's why I want it. I'm used to Photoshop as well
[03:15] <c0nka> randorfer: i will mate
[03:15] <Smegzor> there may be an irc channel for fsck  try #fsck :)  they'd know.
[03:15] <pdaoust> Smegzor: that's easy enough, with the -y flag. e2fsck's default behaviour (i.e., if you said yes to everything) seems to be pretty sane.
[03:15] <peepsalot> so everyone is as clueless as me about wtf "romaing mode" is supposed to mean
[03:15] <randorfer> rodolfo thats not a question thats a statement
[03:15] <elminster> hello all
[03:15] <Qw3rty> piratehead: i could try that, i suppose, but are there any other options?
[03:16] <rodolfo> randorfer: i mean, they donot crash, actually when i'm playing the game window resize and i cant take cback control
[03:16] <Leechzilla> TigranG: So I've noticed :), and I'll check it out
[03:16] <peepsalot> *roaming mode* i mean
[03:16] <truna> fotoflo, granted nothing is immediate, does it have same latency in a terminal?
[03:16] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: There might be, but I don't know much about fat32's interaction with Ubuntu since I've never used the two together myself.
[03:16] <c0nka> randorfer: thanks for your help mate
[03:16] <fotoflo> truna: it is faster then my eyeblink
[03:16] <randorfer> c0nka np good luck
[03:16] <TigranG> Leechzilla: I've gotten Photoshop CS2 to work in linux tho
[03:16] <truna> fotoflo, okay
[03:17] <randorfer> rodolfo and you think it has something to do with your video driver?
[03:17] <Smegzor> peepsalot: ok  not entirely clued but for me it means, my local ip etc is obtained from my dhcp?  server.  I prefer static ip's so I only use roaming moad when I'm having trouble establishing a network.
[03:17] <Leechzilla> TigranG: Does it work without much issues? I've heard lot of problems with it. When I tried to install it with Wine, it wouldn't let me activate my copy.
[03:17] <truna> Smegzor, configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:17] <Qw3rty> piratehead: can you refer me to the launchpad  bug you mentioned earlier?
[03:17] <Smegzor> heh  funny typo..  moad :)  I meant mode :P
[03:17] <fotoflo> randorfer: no
[03:17] <rodolfo> randorfer: i have no idea because i dont know whats going on here
[03:17] <Leechzilla> TigranG: I run it in VMware when I need to do only minor edits
[03:17] <fotoflo> randorfer: no video driver
[03:18] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: I'll look for it quick. If it ended up being marked invalid it would be difficult to find.
[03:18] <fotoflo> randorfer: no monitor on the machine
[03:18] <iCEifer> where can I find the boot.local file in ubuntu, or is there an equivalent where I can add commands to run before X server starts?
[03:18] <ToddEDM> besides ryzsom are there any other mmo's that you guys would suggest
[03:18] <TigranG> Leechzilla: Yea that was the problem, but the way I got it was to make it a 'portable' version. You use windows to active it and then export the registry keys and you can run it off a usb flash drive on any computer. Its useful, and it cuts it down to like 80mb
[03:18] <fotoflo> whoops
[03:18]  * fotoflo is too busy
[03:19] <astro76> iCEifer, /etc/rc.local
[03:19] <rodolfo> randorfer: so i'm looking for i91x related-problems on forum, but i'm with no luck
[03:19] <crush_groove> how do I make a file or directory unhidden?
[03:20] <peepsalot> Smegzor, well, I assumed it meant something other than DHCP, because if you uncheck roaming mode, then there is still a separate option for enablin gdhcp
[03:20] <PirateHead> Qw3rty: I can't find it. I don't know how to search for invalid bugs on Lauchpad.
[03:20] <cgh> hello
[03:20] <truna> crush_groove, its not hidden at all ever
[03:20] <iCEifer> astro76, thanks...do I have to remove the exit 0 or leave that at the very end of my other commands?
[03:20] <Qw3rty> piratehead: thanks anyway
[03:20] <zenobius> incoming illegal request : anyone using strigi? is it faster tha trackerd, beagle?
[03:20] <Smegzor> i turn on roaming mode when visiting friends lans
[03:20] <crush_groove> truna  I cant see a .foo file from my home directory in dolphin  is there a remedy ?
[03:20] <Leechzilla> TigranG: Ah, I've seen a blog about doing that, but never tried
[03:20] <truna> crush_groove, however your ls option of -la would show all
[03:20] <astro76> iCEifer, that must be at the end so rc.local exits with successful status
[03:21] <nano_> printer question-- i enabled sharing, and enabled the sharing options in the particular printer I want to share, but still I can't add the printer on another box (win xp). it says i dont have permission, how do I give it permission to access my printer?
[03:21] <iCEifer> astro76, thanks again
[03:21] <PirateHead> zenobius: The best way to figure out which one is fastest is to download them and try them. :-)
[03:21] <truna> crush_groove, it is there, ls -la
[03:21] <crush_groove> truna I know how to see it. I need to know how to make dolphin see it
[03:21] <Eyemean> hi im running a radeon 9550 with fglrx, is it possible to create another session without fglrx so u i can use DRI? so i can run windows games on linux
[03:21] <truna> crush_groove, whats a dolphin?
[03:21] <fotoflo> truna: any suggestions?
[03:22] <crush_groove> truna file manager
[03:22] <iCEifer> astro76, if the command requires root do I have to put sudo in front of it?
[03:22] <vocx> !dolphin
[03:22] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:22] <astro76> iCEifer, no
[03:22] <truna> fotoflo, for which again? refresh me please
[03:22] <astro76> iCEifer, everything will run as root
[03:22] <iCEifer> astro76, didn't think so...
[03:22] <fotoflo> truna: slow passwd prompt
[03:22] <truna> crush_groove, not familiar with it, use nautilus perhaps?
[03:22] <crush_groove> nodz
[03:22] <mrubuntu> hi, is there a way to install KDE on Ubuntu, and start a KDE Session instead of GNOME?
[03:23] <Smegzor> oh well  now that I can launch gnome without leaving kde, I'm going back to kde land :D
[03:23] <TigranG> Leechzilla: Yea, it makes it work under linux, might wanna give it a try now, anyways, I g2g, bye
[03:23] <truna> fotoflo, i thought you dont see it because its so fast in a terminal?
[03:23] <PirateHead> mrubuntu: Yes. To install KDE, install the "kde-desktop" package.
[03:23] <mrubuntu> cool
[03:23] <PirateHead> mrubuntu: Or that might be the "kubuntu-desktop" package. I forget.
[03:23] <fotoflo> truna: no
[03:23] <randorfer> mrubuntu apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <Leechzilla> TigranG: Okay, bye
[03:23] <randorfer> mrubuntu then in gdm select kde as you session
[03:23] <PirateHead> mrubuntu: You can select which environment to use (Gnome or KDE) at the login screen.
[03:23] <fotoflo> truna: it doesnt go away
[03:23] <mrubuntu> kk
[03:23] <fotoflo> hmm
[03:24] <fotoflo> no, if i ssh from localhost its fast
[03:25] <WorkingOnWise> why would a file copy stall? The total size of the copy is around 27GB, but it stalls after less that 100MB.
[03:25] <truna> hang on
[03:25] <randorfer> workingonwise not enough room on the media you are copying it to
[03:25] <joesoundguy> help w/Screensaver please.  Just goes white.  No pretty screensavers appear.  Preview worx tho
[03:25] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: 32-bit operating systems have problems with such large files.
[03:26] <randorfer> workinonwise or you filesystem does not support files of that size
[03:26] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: You might try reading 4gb at a time and then pasting the files back together.
[03:26] <WorkingOnWise> randorfer: 37GB partition.
[03:26] <randorfer> pireatehead its not the os its the filesystem that would have troubles with sizes
[03:26] <randorfer> wrokingonwise what filesystem
[03:26] <truna> fotoflo, are you in a remote pc ssh'ng in?
[03:26] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: It isn't a space limitation - it's a filesystem technical limitaiotn.
[03:27] <randorfer> workingwise if it is fat32 you are sol, reformat to something like ext3
[03:27] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: really? even though the largest single file is less that 1GB? and most are less than 2MB?
[03:27] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: Ah, I thought you were talking about a single 27GB continuous file.
[03:27] <WorkingOnWise> randorfer: it is ext2...fat...icky poo  :)
[03:27] <MartianLobster> I just installed mysql_server,   and in /usr/lib   I see libmysqlclient_r.s0.15    but there is no  libmysqlclient_r.s0.  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH   what do I do?    ldconfig doesn't seem to fix anything
[03:27] <ottothecow> how can I check if /bin/sh is linked to something of if it is actually there
[03:28] <randorfer> martianlobster what is the problem?
[03:28] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: nope, just my old "My Documents" folder. Lotsa stuff....
[03:28] <truna> ottothecow, ls -la would show it if its symlinked or not
[03:28] <randorfer> workinonwise do you tar.gz it before you move it?
[03:28] <MartianLobster> randorfer:    my software doesn't have the appropriate library to link to
[03:28] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: Perhaps try using rsync instead of cp.
[03:28] <randorfer> martainlobster what is it asking for
[03:28] <randorfer> libmysqlclient_r.s0.what
[03:29] <WorkingOnWise> randorfer: PirateHead brb...doggies gotta go out.
[03:29] <simmerz> I've got a problem with locales. I keep getting perl errors saying setting locale failed and dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't work either
[03:29] <MartianLobster> It is asking for libmysqlclient_r.so
[03:29] <Eyemean> hi is it possible to have 2 users, one with fglrx and one without in gutsy? cheers
[03:29] <randorfer> martainlobster sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.15 /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so
[03:29] <MartianLobster> I fixed the problem, I just copied the libmysqlclient_r.so.15   to libmysqlclient_r.so  in the same directory
[03:30] <truna> fotoflo, are you in a remote pc ssh'ng in to the ssh enabled host?
[03:30] <MartianLobster> it is linking now
[03:30] <fotoflo> truna: yes
[03:30] <PirateHead> ottothecow: ls -l /bin/sh | grep '->'
[03:31] <subopt> Does Kubuntu ever install *anything* in /usr/local/ ?
[03:31] <truna> fotoflo, perhaps there are filters and firewall rules slowing any ssh attempts to like one per minute?
[03:31] <fotoflo> t
[03:31] <FantasticFoo> does anyone know how to get the "fglrx" module loaded at bootup? i installed the ati catalyst 7.11 driver, because i wanted aiglx support, but i have to manually get it working every time i boot up with this temporary fix: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6062 (first reply to original post)
[03:31] <fotoflo> truna: no, the host is on my lan
[03:31] <sadaiyappan> Hi.
[03:31] <sadaiyappan> I have a problem.
[03:31] <sadaiyappan> I installed world of padman -- it's a great game..
[03:32] <PirateHead> FantasticFoo: You could add it as a service to start up upon boot.
[03:32] <FantasticFoo> i tried every solution in that whole thread, and even the "fglrx.ko" link solution in the "ubuntu gutsy installation guide"
[03:32] <bitsbam> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a mini-Itx ?
[03:32] <truna> fotoflo, do you have ipv6 enabled and is the ssh configured to resolv the host?
[03:32] <sadaiyappan> but when i try to create a shortcut using create link the shortcut works until i move it to the desktop..
[03:32] <FantasticFoo> PirateHead: how would i do that?
[03:32] <sadaiyappan> it doesn't work when it's on the desktop
[03:32] <sadaiyappan> what could be causing this?
[03:33] <PirateHead> FantasticFoo: If it doesn't require root, you can do it using System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[03:33] <sarah> hi! i have a HDTV can I get the full resolution with a normal monitor cable>
[03:33] <truna> sadaiyappan, look at the command behind it, maybe it requires the full path
[03:33] <fotoflo> truna: i dont think i have IPv6 enabled, and i dont the host is is resolving..
[03:33] <fotoflo> truna: but i dont knwo, its all default config
[03:33] <PirateHead> FantasticFoo: If it does require root, you'll have to add a system-v style startup script.
[03:34] <truna> fotoflo, look at your sshd config and how it is supposed to resolve the incoming connectivity
[03:34] <joesoundguy> what does ÄPM:Bios not found really mean?
[03:34] <PirateHead> sarah: I don't know for sure, but I've heard that the linux kernel doesn't support HD.
[03:34] <sadaiyappan> what do you mean look at the command behind it?
[03:34] <FantasticFoo> PirateHead: oh. i guess i'll have to do that then
[03:34] <sarah> PirateHead: whaaaa??? isnt it just a higher res
[03:35] <sarah> maybe not Blueray or HDDVD
[03:35] <PirateHead> sarah: That would make sense to me, and perhaps I've misread, but I recall a few people ranting about how linux can't do HD.
[03:35] <fotoflo> truna: i dont see anything about dnsl
[03:35] <fotoflo> dns
[03:35] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: APM is not supported or available on your box
[03:36] <FantasticFoo> well, there is one "solution" that i have yet to try, because i do not know how to go about doing it. in this document: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Verifying ... it tells me to "Remove all the packages provided by the xserver-xorg-video-all meta-package (search for it using Synaptic or Adept)". how would i do this?
[03:36] <truna> fotoflo, you have to read up on sshd configs i cant hand hold you to find it
[03:36] <fotoflo> truna: k
[03:36] <joesoundguy> Iceman, could that have issues w/my screensaver?
[03:36] <joesoundguy> screensaver don work either
[03:36] <Eyemean> hi is it possible to have direct rendering with fglrx?
[03:37] <sadaiyappan> the shortcut doesn't work on the desktop but it works when it is in the same folder as the link
[03:37] <sadaiyappan> what could be causing this?
[03:37] <truna> sadaiyappan, look at the command behind it, maybe it requires the full path..did you check this yet?
[03:38] <ruru> anyone know how to network 2 ubuntu boxes together.  I have made user names on both systems matching. I have shared directorys on both systems.  and still nothing shows up in the network browser?  Any ideals?
[03:38] <falieson> so I am using my TV as the HDMI display for my ubuntu box, I switch away from that input for awhile to watch cnn and flip back and only way I seem to be able to get the display to show up again without rebooting is to logout by VNCing in
[03:38] <hanasaki> how do i install support for other languges?>
[03:39] <PirateHead> hanasaki: System -> Administration -> Language Support
[03:39] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: maybe .. it could be something else
[03:39] <oldude67_> im having a problem with virtual box, says im missing a module in my kernel,anyone know about this?
[03:39] <hanasaki> PirateHead: that menu language support does not exist.. what can I apt-get to install it?
[03:39] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI: yeah could be.  Compiz and all else seems fine
[03:39] <truna> ruru do they have ip addresses? pastebin the results of  ifconfig  and route -n please
[03:39] <sadaiyappan> i don't understand what you are saying..
[03:39] <sadaiyappan> it has the full path
[03:40] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  Toshiba A75 wP4 and ATI9100
[03:40] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: I am not sure to troubleshoot with screensaver, but it could be your video card or video driver
[03:40] <ruru> guess i resort only way network ubuntu here.  pull harddrive and put it in other system lol
[03:40] <truna> sadaiyappan, respond with a prefix of my nick or i will miss your responses
[03:40] <PirateHead> hanasaki: It should be there by default I think, but it should also be available through Add/Remove programs.
[03:40] <ruru> how do i do that truna
[03:40] <hanasaki> where is add/remove programs?
[03:40] <sadaiyappan> truna:  i don't know what you mean when i click on properties it says the full path..
[03:41] <ruru> they both have ip address yes
[03:41] <abdulla> hi, where's a good place to ask about python-apt?
[03:41] <truna> ruru read what i said, i gave you the commands  ifconfig   and route -n
[03:41] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  hmm?  Could it realy?  Compiz working. things look fine but just screensaver not working.
[03:41] <ruru> ok
[03:41] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI: How could I check?
[03:41] <truna> sadaiyappan, which program is it? where does it reside, whats the full path?
[03:41] <macksting> I swung by in here and asked about starting a program in DosBox via a shortcut. I was told you can't, that you must open DosBox first. I've since determined this isn't strictly true, judging from the menu commands available on a right-click. How do I set up a shortcut to do with a double-click what I previously had to do by digging out the program and selecting from a menu?
[03:41] <PirateHead> hanasaki: Applications -> Add/Remove Programs
[03:41] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  Cube and everything
[03:42] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: ah. then, it is not related to APM at all. something else is causing the issue for screensaver (as long as compiz works just fine)
[03:42] <sadaiyappan> Truna: it's world of padman
[03:42] <ruru> truna when i do ifconfig it says 192.168.2.3 for one and 192.168.2.2 for other
[03:42] <sadaiyappan> truna: the path is "/home/sadaiyappan/WoP/WoP"
[03:42] <truna> sadaiyappan, and how do you normally launch it? what is the full path to the app?
[03:42] <hanasaki> PirateHead:  umm I dont have that menu either :(
[03:42] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  Is there a screensaver troubleshooting guide?  I totaly stuck
[03:42] <PirateHead> hanasaki: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:43] <joe_> hey im having more trouble with my wireless, it works fine without encryption but when i try to add a WEP key to it it doesnt seem to like it. When i set the key in the dialog that comes up it seems to accept it, then when i do iwlist eth1 key; it shows a different key, anyone know why this is happeneing? ive also tried setting up the connection with iwconfig eth 1 enc <key> and it seems to...
[03:43] <sadaiyappan> truna: the path is "/home/sadaiyappan/WoP/WoP"
[03:43] <joe_> ...go in and on iwlist; it shows up as corect however as soon as i try to connect to the network and it asks me for the key it deletes it and asks me for the key again, then when i put it in it converts it to something else but at an equal length, any help would be great.
[03:43] <hanasaki> PirateHead:  7.10 its an upgrade from the prev version not a fresh install
[03:43] <truna> sadaiyappan, does it require options to launch it?  look carefully at the gui ..the command behind it..make sure it has this full path
[03:43] <sadaiyappan> when i click the shortcut
[03:43] <PirateHead> hanasaki: Both of those menu items should be available on both 7.04 and 7.10.
[03:43] <truna> ruru read what i said, i gave you the commands  ifconfig   and route -n  <-- missing
[03:44] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: never had a problem with screensaver; let me find something
[03:44] <sadaiyappan> truna: when i click the shortcut a popup comes asking to run
[03:44] <hanasaki> hmm PirateHead what can i restinall / install that will give them?
[03:44] <sadaiyappan> truna: but when i click run it never runs
[03:44] <PirateHead> hanasaki: the ubuntu-desktop package
[03:44] <ruru> route -n gives alot numbers
[03:44] <hanasaki> thanks brb PirateHead
[03:44] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  For what itś worth, Screensaver preview worx.  Just a tease tho
[03:44] <truna> sadaiyappan, does it require options to launch it?
[03:44] <sadaiyappan> no
[03:44] <AutoMatriX> hey folks, how can I set up the enlish langauge support .... mine is in french and even les comprehensible
[03:44] <sadaiyappan> truna: no
[03:44] <truna> !pastebin > ruru
[03:45]  * AutoMatriX was talking about the locales of Gimp
[03:45] <PirateHead> AutoMatriX: System -> Administration -> Language Support
[03:45] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: you could check a few logs in /var/log to see if there is any error message on screensaver
[03:45] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  standby...
[03:46] <truna> sadaiyappan, you are on your Desktop? how do you launch it? /home/sadaiyappan/Wop/Wop  ?
[03:46]  * macksting waits.
[03:46] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  nada arrrgg
[03:47] <PirateHead> What are you waiting on, macksting?
[03:47] <hanasaki> PirateHead:  will I need to logout/login to gdm to get the menu items to show up?
[03:47] <ruru> when i put pastebin > ruru at terminal it says command not found
[03:47] <PirateHead> hanasaki: You could try restarting x. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:47] <truna> !pastebin | ruru
[03:47] <ubotu> ruru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:47] <macksting> I swung by in here and asked about starting a program in DosBox via a shortcut. I was told you can't, that you must open DosBox first. I've since determined this isn't strictly true, judging from the menu commands available on a right-click. How do I set up a shortcut to do with a double-click what I previously had to do by digging out the program and selecting from a menu?
[03:47] <ruru> ok going to url
[03:47] <sadaiyappan> truna: yes
[03:48] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: in the terminal, type screensaver and see if it spews any error message
[03:48] <meticulo> any one know a workaround to stop firefox from crashing/freezing computer
[03:48] <sadaiyappan> truna: well i manually go to the folder through the GUI, I don't launch from the terminal..
[03:48] <truna> sadaiyappan, i have two questions and you only answer one..
[03:48] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  Command not found
[03:48] <cheatr> meticulo: Try killing the process every now and then using "killall firefox-bin". Then restart it. This should keep things running smoothly
[03:48] <PirateHead> macksting: You should be able to create a program launcher to do that.
[03:48] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: I just tested it myself .. wrong one ..
[03:49] <PirateHead> macksting: right click -> create program launcher
[03:49] <macksting> Huh. Okay.
[03:49] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  huh?
[03:49] <sadaiyappan> truna: yes I am on my desktop
[03:49] <XiXaQ> to share files and folders in Windows XP, you can right-click what you want to share, select sharing, type a description and a password, and you're set. In Ubuntu, it seems necessary to read books in order to accomplish the same thing.. How is this possible?
[03:49] <macksting> So far so good.
[03:49] <joe_> anyone?
[03:50] <ruru> ok i sent it to ubuntu
[03:50] <ruru> pasted what the commands give
[03:50] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: Nah, it's actually pretty easy. Let me walk you through the process. (2 steps, I think)
[03:50] <mneptok> XiXaQ: it is possible in Windows to open an e-mail, and instantly have your machine used as an open mail repay by Nigerian spammers. how is this possible?
[03:50] <truna> sadaiyappan, i suspect again that the path you have behind the gui is incorrect or missing a parameter
[03:50] <mneptok> *relay
[03:50] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here have an idea why limewire doens't connect to the network?
[03:50] <the08hulk> need help installing ubuntu on hp dv9410
[03:50] <ruru> ruru is name used for it
[03:50] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: i'm back now. The destination partition is a truecrypt encrypted partition. Do u think it's possible that truecrypt has a problem with such a large quantity of files?
[03:50] <the08hulk> anyone?
[03:50] <cheatr> XiXaQ: Go to System->Administration->Shared Folders
[03:50] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: xdg-screensaver (command-line screensaver)
[03:50] <ruru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50673/
[03:50] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: first, go to System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[03:51] <XiXaQ> mneptok, what's your point, that sharing file and printers on a network is bad?
[03:51] <ruru> sorry still learning
[03:51] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: what problems are u having?
[03:51] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: That could certainly be a problem, but having never used TrueCrypt myself I don't know. Maybe you could ask them?
[03:51] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here have an idea why limewire doens't connect to the network?
[03:51] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, I've done that.
[03:51] <truna> ruru try to ping each other and see if you get a response
[03:51] <lapteo> Hey! I need help! badly!,  I'm trying to get Intel wireless 4695 card up and going ... but  I can't seem to get it reconized. ( new to linux ) help greatly appreciated
[03:51] <releod> Has anyone been able to get Netatalk to start automatically on boot (Gutsy 7.10) (read the forums, but cannot seem to figure it out yet)
[03:51] <ruru> ok
[03:51] <mneptok> XiXaQ: my point is that "Linux is not Windows"
[03:51] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: It might tell you that support for shared folders isn't installed. Let it install the packages for you.
[03:52] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, I've done that too.
[03:52] <macksting> ...okay, I'll see if command works.
[03:52] <cheatr> XiXaq: Once you set up the folder to be shared in "Shared Folders", go to my network places from windows to access it
[03:52] <XiXaQ> cheatr, no, that doesn't work.
[03:52] <the08hulk> can anyone help with ubuntu 7.10 instal problems...
[03:52] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: And you've added the folders you want to share to the list in shared folders?
[03:52] <mneptok> releod: do you need access to classic Macs or old printers?
[03:52] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, yes.
[03:52] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  no errors just a bunch of type this to do that lines.  BTW...it worx from there when I activate
[03:52] <joe_> hey im having more trouble with my wireless, it works fine without encryption but when i try to add a WEP key to it it doesnt seem to like it. When i set the key in the dialog that comes up it seems to accept it, then when i do iwlist eth1 key; it shows a different key, anyone know why this is happeneing? ive also tried setting up the connection with iwconfig eth 1 enc <key> and it seems to...
[03:52] <joe_> ...go in and on iwlist; it shows up as corect however as soon as i try to connect to the network and it asks me for the key it deletes it and asks me for the key again, then when i put it in it converts it to something else but at an equal length, any help would be great.
[03:52] <cheatr> XiXzQ: Does the folder show up in my network places?
[03:52] <releod> mneptok: nope, I just need it to enable AFP shares
[03:52] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: In that case, it sounds like something is wrong. That same procedure works fine for me.
[03:53] <macksting> It was easier than I thought.
[03:53] <mneptok> releod: why AFP?
[03:53] <releod> mneptok: I access the filesystem (ubuntu) through my apple equipment
[03:53] <Cleanser23> hello
[03:53] <the08hulk> ubuntu live cd runs but after instal it dosnt...anyone?..
[03:53] <joesoundguy> icemanVI; version is 1.01
[03:53] <PirateHead> macksting: You got the program launcher working, I suppose?
[03:53] <Cleanser23> the08 i might be able to help
[03:53] <Clay_The_Arc> is any1 here able to tell me why my limewire client doesnt access the gnutella network?
[03:53] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: yeah, that would be best. It just occured to me as a posibility. I had to force quit nautilus, and after 3 minutes I tried to unmount the truecrypt volume and it is still bust...
[03:53] <mneptok> releod: Samba or NFS or some other not-horribly-deprecated protocol can do that for you.
[03:53] <truna> joe_, i suspect you are inputting it as ascii and it expects hex?
[03:53] <thedefender> how what happens when and update from a repo screws and can't find a file it was looking for and it now just frozen
[03:53] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, you left out configuring /etc/samba/smb.conf. Since the default is to not allow that kind of sharing, it's necessary.
[03:54] <Cleanser23> hey hulk try booting into recovery mode
[03:54] <Kevin`> joe_ it sounds like your trying to use both the command line tools and network manager at the same time
[03:54] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: same version here; man, I don't know what else to look for
[03:54] <releod> mneptok: I may resort to SAMBA as a last resort only.. but I have Netatalk running nicely so far.. just need it to autostart :S
[03:54] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: what kind of problems?
[03:54] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: Hmm, I don't remember having to mess with Samba's configuration to get it to work.
[03:54] <truna> releod, man update-rc.d  and man invoke-rc
[03:55] <mneptok> releod: is there a stub in /etc/default ?
[03:55] <cheatr> XiXaQ: Hmm. I thought the shared folder app took care of modifying the smb.conf file. I had set up my shared folder on Feisty, and upgraded to gutsy
[03:55] <ruru> Truna: ping works both ways
[03:55] <truna> releod, man update-rc.d  and man invoke-rc.d
[03:55] <joesoundguy> Iceman: Status is enabled and I just reset.  Letś see what happens
[03:55] <releod> not sure what either of those commands do, linux newbie here :)
[03:55] <lapteo> thehulk: sounds like a grub problem? are you dual booting or something?
[03:55] <truna> ruru so what you want to do now?
[03:55] <SANTAbios> has anyone setup postfix with mutt in here?
[03:55] <mneptok> joesoundguy: right-ALT+' is what you want ;)
[03:56] <thedefender> what do you do when an update from a repo screws up and its just hanging there cause it can't find a file, how to i stop it without screwing up the system
[03:56] <PirateHead> Holy crap. I just hit some key combination that switched the orientation of my screen  from left-to-right text to right-to--left text. How do I fix that?
[03:56] <zetheroo> I have an SD card that is formatted in Fat16 ... how can I format it in Ubuntu?
[03:56] <ruru> i want be able share files and printer
[03:56] <XiXaQ> cheatr, PirateHead, it works as long as you have a duplicate set of users on the windows and linux machine, or a single-signon solution with a directory service or something.
[03:56] <truna> releod, man update-rc.d   and you get some explanations by reading :)
[03:56] <lapteo> can someone help me getting my 4695 wireless carde working on gutsy 7.10 ?
[03:56] <Cleanser23> Can anyone help me? i installed ubuntu with the text based installer because the graphic one would load then when i selected "start or install ubuntu" it turned of my monitor and gave me an orang LED, now when boot it does the same thing, but it will boot in recovery mode, can anyone help?
[03:56] <sini> hey guys, I'm an old debian-sid/gentoo user ... and I'm getting annoyed with ati-drivers... so I was thinking of trying ubuntu -- how accessable is the unstable/testing branch in practice? (ie, how much of my time will be spent fixing things?)
[03:56] <fotoflo> ubuntu pisses me off
[03:56] <jxxt> zetheroo, ubuntu reads fat32 nativlely
[03:56] <releod> okay Truna, I am going to check those out
[03:56] <fotoflo> it does everything for you, but nothing it does works
[03:56] <cheatr> XiXaQ: For me, when I connect from windows, it prompts me for my username/password
[03:56] <thedefender> !update
[03:56] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:56] <releod> I will come back asking if I do not turn up anything :)
[03:57] <PurpZeY> !fixres | Cleanser23
[03:57] <ubotu> Cleanser23: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:57] <thedefender> !updatemanager
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatemanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <zetheroo> jxxt: Fat16 not Fat32
[03:57] <truna> ruru, you can use nfs  to share files between machines...google for how nfs works
[03:57] <WorkingOnWise> how do I forcably unmount a volume? it wont unmount nicely after 4 tries and 10 minutes.
[03:57] <the08hulk> boot it of live you mean or straight from the hd..??
[03:57] <Cleanser23> thanks
[03:57] <ruru> alright
[03:57] <joe_> i only used the command line to check what wep key was stored and it wasnt right =[, ive tried al formats for the key, when i try to input it in ascii it isnt the right length but its the same key i use in windows, so i used the hex format and it still didnt work, then i tried the regular passphrase format on the network manager (the 7.10 roaming mode one) tool and it didnt work either, it...
[03:57] <joe_> ...seems like its converting the key between reading it fro what i type and storing it or something.
[03:57] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: Perhaps you do need to read a book to get it working, then. :-(
[03:57] <jxxt> zetheroo, my bad sorry
[03:57] <ari_stress> where do i manage file association?
[03:57] <sini> WorkingOnWise: you can umount -f, man umount
[03:57] <PirateHead> ari_stress: unfortunately, there is no good GUI to manage file associations.
[03:57] <lapteo> Joe what wireless card do you have?
[03:58] <truna> WorkingOnWise, lsof -i  and find the app hogging the usage of the partition, then kill it to let it let go
[03:58] <thedefender> ok nevermind
[03:58] <the08hulk> cleanser you still alive..
[03:58] <cheatr> XiXaQ: If you can't get the folder sharing set up, you might consider ssh/ftp to access the folder from windows.
[03:58] <XiXaQ> cheatr, right. You first need to setup a user for each connecting party. That's not the expected behavior. You can configure it to shared instead, but then it's available for anyone without any password protection at all. That's not always desired.
[03:58] <thedefender> figured it out
[03:58] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i downloaded the game Planeshift ... how do  i install a .bin file
[03:58] <thedefender> get to console in update manager and hit control  x
[03:58] <macksting> Pirate: Yeah. Figured out how. Whoever it was earlier said it can't be done apparently didn't know how to make the terminal command, either.
[03:58] <truna> ToddEDM, chmod u+x fileyoudownloaded.bin
[03:58] <macksting> Trial and error. Thanks for pointing me the right direction, though.
[03:58] <PirateHead> ToddEDM: double-clicking the bin file should work.
[03:58] <joe_> bcm4318, ive had it working before on etch, and well i assumed because it allowed me to put in a WEP key option it is supported
[03:58] <the08hulk> guys i need help booting ubuntu safe mode how to..
[03:58] <joe_> in ubuntu i mean
[03:59] <XiXaQ> cheatr, the point is to have windows clients connect to a linux share as they're used to. Of course, there are a million ways to share files. You could setup a bit torrent tracker, for instance, and access the files with azureus from windows, if that's what you want.
[03:59] <the08hulk> off of my hd
[03:59] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  Screensaver worked w/some pixilation erros
[03:59] <lapteo> nvm then. *thought you could help me +(
[03:59] <fotoflo> compiling!fotoflo
[03:59] <fotoflo> help compiling!
[03:59] <SANTAbios> has anyone setup postfix with mutt in here?
[03:59] <IdleOne> !compile | fotoflo
[03:59] <ubotu> fotoflo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[03:59] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: you've got that right. It should just work, the way Windows users are used to.
[04:00] <thedefender> the08hulk: when you first start your computer it will say something before ubuntu loads like "Press ESC key to load grub menu"
[04:00] <mkquist> anyone know if reinstalling grub would eliminate the branding put on grub by another distro?
[04:00] <thedefender> the08hulk:  it will bring up the menu and you will be able to enter recovery mode
[04:00] <thedefender> aka safe mode
[04:00] <Yorick> mkquist: Only if you install replacing the boot splash.
[04:00] <PirateHead> mkquist: You might be able to do that by editing a grub configuration file.
[04:00] <ignignokt> can someone tell me how to stop my monitor from turning off after 10 minutes despite my power management settings all set to "never" ?
[04:01] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: w0w. that is terrific. something for me to remember this next time when other is having a problem with screensaver.
[04:01] <mkquist> Yorick - well its before the splash i believe
[04:01] <Yorick> mkquist: How do you mean?
[04:01] <joesoundguy> IcemanVI:  i dunno if it was the reset or just the threat of doing command line functions
[04:01] <jelabarre> I'm trying to find how to *permenantly* set my window manager as Metacity.  I removed Compiz, and can run the "metacity --replace" command to set it for the current session, but the next time I start Gnome it starts without a window manager again
[04:01] <mkquist> Yorick - well isnt the boot splash after grub?  Or am I mistaken
[04:01] <PirateHead> ignignokt: Your monitor might need to be poked every once in awhile to stay on. My mouse has that problem. I run my kernel with the cheatcodes "pci=routeirq irqpoll" and the mouse keeps working; otherwise, it shuts down after about 10 minutes like you say.
[04:01] <the08hulk> need help!!!wats the initrd???
[04:02] <IcemanV1> joesoundguy: it could be the reset
[04:02] <craigbass1976> What is firefox doing lately?  It keeps crashing-- mostly during flash stuff.  I'm using edgy.
[04:02] <Yorick> mkquist: GRUB has its own boot splash.
[04:02] <WorkingOnWise> sini: umount -r has hung up...1 fulll minute and no response yet. It looks like I'll have to reboot to get it free huh?
[04:02] <joe_> ?
[04:02] <zetheroo> I have an SD card plugged in to my card reader... how do I know what the address is in /dev ?
[04:02] <ignignokt> PirateHead: thanks, but that seems like a lousy workaround... no way to just fix it?  on windows i don't have the problem, so i don't think it's just my monitor
[04:02] <mkquist> Yorick - Ic... would you know where that might be?
[04:02] <WorkingOnWise> sini: umount -f returned that the device was busy
[04:03] <Yorick> mkquist: If you just re-inject the GRUB config and remove the lines relating to the img-based splash it should get rid of it.
[04:03] <the08hulk> why does my ubuntu give my laptop a cracked looking screen..PLZ help anyone
[04:03] <jxxt> the08hulk: what are you trying to do?
[04:03] <ignignokt> PirateHead: also, how would i go about using that cheatcode, put it in my grub's menu.lst?
[04:03] <zetheroo> anyone?
[04:03] <Yorick> mkquist: There are many grub tutes on the web, have a look around. :)
[04:03] <inflex> hiya all - upgraded to Ubuntu 7.10 last night (desktop) but now every 10 mins or so the keyboard / mouse loses input in the X session (GNOME, using open-source ATi drivers on an X800GTO card).  The machine is still running, the mouse still moves around, but I just lose any ability to do anything in X, even ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do anything
[04:03] <inflex> nor does ctrl-alt-F2/3/4/etc
[04:03] <mkquist> Yorick - ty i will
[04:03] <PirateHead> ignignokt: I don't have the problem with my mouse on windows machines either. I agree that it's a hack, but the more elegant solution is probably at the driver level, which I am not experienced enough to manage.
[04:03] <zetheroo> I have an SD card plugged in to my card reader... how do I know what the address is in /dev ?
[04:03] <the08hulk> im tryna start up ubuntu 7.10
[04:03] <Yorick> mkquist: Good luck.
[04:03] <PirateHead> ignignokt: Yes, put it in your grub menu list.
[04:03] <the08hulk> but my screen looks cracked after the loader..
[04:04] <ignignokt> cool, thanks mang
[04:04] <the08hulk> yet the live cd does fime
[04:04] <matt2292> How can I mount a UFS formatted partition in ubuntu? What do I need to install/do?
[04:04] <joe_> anyone?
[04:04] <jxxt> zetheroo, my guess is /sd*
[04:05] <Eyemean> gnight all
[04:05] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: by cracked, do u mean a whit-ish/blackish pattern ...blob kind of thong...that spreads across the display?
[04:05] <jelabarre> zetheroo: when you plug in the SD card, run "dmesg", and the it should show a message of what card it saw and show what device it saw it as
[04:05] <PirateHead> !google | matt2292
[04:05] <ubotu> matt2292: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:05] <inflex> also, when I look at 'top', Xorg / X is taking up 99% of the CPU
[04:05] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, do you know how to make a password protected share with security = share?
[04:05] <zetheroo> jelabarre: ok.. I got it /dev/sde1
[04:05] <vee_> hey
[04:05] <the08hulk> y do i see fading pixled on ubuntu start up???
[04:05] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: use NFS?
[04:06] <jelabarre> I'm sure there's supposed to be a more elegant method
[04:06] <xtknight> !icons
[04:06] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[04:06] <fsanlu> !flash
[04:06] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:06] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:06] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, as I understand it, it can't be installed on xp home since it requires sfu?
[04:06] <fsanlu> !gnash
[04:06] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:06] <PirateHead> XiXaQ: Hmm, don't know. Is there not a free software replacement?
[04:07] <XiXaQ> PirateHead, I seriously doubt that.
[04:07] <vee_> permissions: is there a way to make all file and folders within a certain directory, read and write for all users?
[04:07] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: is this message being posted in this channel? I have tried to communicat with the08hulk 3 times and got no reply..is he not paying atention, or am I not posting properly?
[04:07] <PirateHead> WorkingOnWise: I read you loud and clear, over.
[04:07] <jelabarre> is there a place to configure what Gutsy (at least for an individual login/user) what windor manager to load at startup?
[04:08] <WorkingOnWise> PirateHead: ty. well, it's not me, so I give up  :)
[04:08] <jxxt> WorkingOnWise, yes your msg are working he just seems to ignore some msg
[04:08] <lapteo> Can someone help me out? Gutsy(7.10) installation of wirelss card(4695 AGN)
[04:08] <th0r> jelabarre at login choose the wm of choice and you will be prompted if you want to try it once or keep it as default
[04:08] <WorkingOnWise> jxxt ty also
[04:08] <Strangewor1> I recently changed my default media player from rhythmbox to exaile, the keybaord shortcut constantly attempted to open up rhythmbox so I changed the shortcut to refer to exaile instead, using a line of code looking something like this, "sudo ln -s/usr/local/bin/rhythmbox /usr/bin/exaile". Now I wish to change it back, how may I do that?
[04:09] <noodles12> i'm using Gutsy. Printing to pdf has worked for me before but suddenly today. i get "printer output error" and the log files shows " CUPS-Get-Classes client-error-not-found"
[04:09] <th0r> jelabarre look for Sessions on the login screen
[04:09] <ToddEDM> truna: you still around?
[04:09] <jelabarre> th0r: as opposed to selecting Gnome?  or should it show as an option as part of Gnome?
[04:09] <matt2292> PirateHead: I did try to google it as I thought this would be an easy problem to fix, but I could not find any useful information.
[04:09] <jelabarre> I *had* been using Compiz, but I just removed that
[04:10] <truna> ToddEDM, yes?
[04:10] <WorkingOnWise> how can I unmount a device that refuses to unmount with unount -r and -f? Reboot?
[04:10] <th0r> jelabarre right. if you choose something besides gnome it will ask if you want to try it one time or keep it as default. Set it as default and it will automatically start the next time you login
[04:10] <truna> WorkingOnWise, as last resort yes, reboot
[04:10] <EdwardXp> whats' a cd mounting program ??? is it fronst?
[04:10] <PirateHead> matt2292: Okay. I don't know anything about UFS, but if you don't get a good answer here I suggest asking in ##linux
[04:10] <EdwardXp> frost?
[04:10] <truna> WorkingOnWise, you can try go to init level 1 and back to same init level 2
[04:10] <WorkingOnWise> truna: grr.....thought so. :(
[04:10] <releod> Offtopic: Is there anything for PCI slots to give additional SATA connectors (internally)?
[04:10] <truna> WorkingOnWise, thats without a reboot
[04:11] <jelabarre> th0r: but if I want Gnome to change it's WM, (rom Compiz to Metacity)
[04:11] <PirateHead> EdwardXp: mount can mount CDs.
[04:11] <th0r> WorkingOnWise if it won't umount then you probably have something still accessing it, a filemanager open in one of the folders, a text editor editing a file stored on the device, etc
[04:11] <EdwardXp> i have an iso i need to mount
[04:11] <ToddEDM> truna, im trying STILL to install planshift.. i did what you suggested "todd@Laptop:~/Desktop$ chmod u+x PlaneShift_CBV0.3.020-x86.bin "
[04:11] <Evolution2> hey guys, my external won't mount because it wasn't removed properly..how do I fix this?
[04:11] <EdwardXp> PirateHead,  i have a iso i need to mount
[04:11] <crdlb> !loopback | EdwardXp
[04:11] <ToddEDM> truna:  all i got was the next line, nothing happened
[04:11] <jxxt> WorkingOnWise, I think the command is   umount
[04:11] <th0r> jelabarre ah...that I wouldn't know...never tried it.
[04:11] <WorkingOnWise> truna: lost me with the init lvls. I have read about them but never had to actually "do" anything with them.
[04:11] <PirateHead> EdwardXp: I understand. mount can do that.
[04:11] <EdwardXp> :o
[04:12] <ubotu> EdwardXp: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:12] <truna> ToddEDM, then ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.020-x86.bin  to launch it, make sure you trust this file
[04:12] <th0r> PirateHead give me a sec and I will find it for you
[04:12] <ToddEDM> truna:  do i include the Period?
[04:12] <jelabarre> th0r: I suppose I could try the WM/DM switch to KDE or Xfce at login, then switch back to Gnome, & see if that fixes it
[04:12] <truna> WorkingOnWise, as root  first sync; sync; sync; then  telniit 1
[04:12] <truna> WorkingOnWise, then telinit 2 once you are in init level 1
[04:12] <ToddEDM> truna:  thank you very much
[04:12] <ToddEDM> its working
[04:13] <truna> ToddEDM, good luck
[04:13] <th0r> PirateHead http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50674/
[04:13] <Evolution2> my external won't mount because it wasn't removed properly...how to do?
[04:13] <Senrac> I need help, I installed ubuntu 7.10 and when I start up, I get a blank screen and nothing happens after that.
[04:13] <PirateHead> EdwardXp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50674/ is suggested by th0r as a way to mount iso images using the mount program.
[04:13] <little_gentleman> hi
[04:14] <Strangewor1> I recently changed my default media player from rhythmbox to exaile, the keybaord shortcut constantly attempted to open up rhythmbox so I changed the shortcut to refer to exaile instead, using a line of code looking something like this, "sudo ln -s/usr/local/bin/rhythmbox /usr/bin/exaile". Now I wish to change it back, how may I do that?
[04:14] <Senrac> I can use ctrl+alt+F1 and then it loads
[04:14] <Anie> aprildinka@yahoo.com
[04:14] <th0r> PirateHead EdwardXp sorry....got you two reversed
[04:14] <mkquist> now that's what I like - grub restored nice a quick... =)
[04:14] <Evolution2> Anie: its very unwise to give your email address
[04:14] <mkquist> and*
[04:15] <truna> Strangewor1, you should have save the original  exaile program, you cant really get back to using exaile lest you re-install it
[04:15] <Anie> ciank
[04:15] <PirateHead> th0r: no problem. :-)
[04:15] <EdwardXp> PirateHead,  :( im confused
[04:15] <WorkingOnWise> truna: my problem appears to be truecrypt. it is running, and the device i cant umount is a truecrypt encrypted partition. cant kill the process, so I think its best to just reboot...:(
[04:15] <Strangewor1> truna: um, so what should I do?
[04:15] <truna> Strangewor1, you basically had changed the exaile program with rhythmbox  so  you must try to re-install exaile
[04:15] <little_gentleman> Where is the best place to report a invasion? Including stack overflow and shell code insertion?
[04:16] <PirateHead> EdwardXp: Those are terminal commands. Have you used the terminal before?
[04:16] <Strangewor1> truna: I will try that out
[04:16] <EdwardXp> PirateHead, whats' that other command frost i can install via apt-get
[04:16] <narothepharoh> what is a good movie player that plays .avi files?
[04:16] <truna> WorkingOnWise good luck, i dislike doing encryption stuff lest i know I can go back into clear
[04:16] <EdwardXp> PirateHead,  its some sort of virtual cd rom thing for linux
[04:16] <Strangewor1> narothepharoh: VLC media player is efficient. :)
[04:17] <AzMoo> little_gentleman: security@ubuntu.com
[04:17] <th0r> PirateHead EdwardXp if you want to mount iso's often look into fuseiso
[04:17] <narothepharoh> sudo apt?
[04:17] <EdwardXp> :D
[04:17] <EdwardXp> thats' it...
[04:17] <EdwardXp> thanks
[04:17] <PirateHead> little_gentleman: there are security mailing lists where people collect stack overflow problems and so on.
[04:17] <little_gentleman> thank you
[04:17] <PirateHead> little_gentleman: If you have the identity of people who are trying to illegally steal your data, you can report it to the FBI.
[04:17] <AzMoo> little_gentleman: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[04:18] <Strangewor1> truna: wait, I reinstalled it
[04:18] <vee_> can you change the permissions for entire dir. so that all users can rwx, no matter whos the owner of the original file?
[04:18] <truna> th0r, what does fuseiso do that a mount with -t iso9660 -o loop will not do?
[04:18] <Strangewor1> truna: but it didn't work, didn't the line of code I apply make the rhythmbox shortcut link to the exaile application?
[04:19] <narothepharoh> Strangeworl: how do i get this?
[04:19] <th0r> truna nothing, but it makes life so much simpler. I put the fuseiso command in as a custom menu option in thunar so I can mount an iso with one click...it mounts to ~/iso in my case
[04:19] <Senrac> I use a Toshbia laptop with Ati. when ubuntu starts up there is white loading text then the screen goes blank
[04:19] <truna> Strangewor1, the symlink you created is in /usr/bin  so if you have not installed exaile  just remove this link and install
[04:19] <Strangewor1> narothepharoh: Access the Synaptic Package Manager and search for VLC :)
[04:19] <Strangewor1> truna: hm, I will do just that
[04:19] <truna> th0r oh okay, for customization..
[04:20] <ToddEDM> ok so i got a link to the game planeshift on my dsktop.... but when i click it, it says i dont have permission, is there a way to change it so the file knows that i am .... ME
[04:21] <th0r> truna for everyday use...fuseiso <isofile> <mountpoint> is so much easier than the mount command
[04:21] <truna> ToddEDM, permission to launch it or the program has to write to certain directory where you dont have permissions?
[04:21] <ToddEDM> to launch
[04:21] <ToddEDM> its owned by ROOT
[04:21] <PirateHead> ToddEDM: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefile
[04:21] <hanasak1> I have scim setup but ^space is not bringing up the japanese input thing
[04:21]  * inflex gives up - replaced the gfx card from the X800GTO to a crummy 9200SE, maybe the next update will fix that
[04:21] <truna> th0r, sometimes make things so easy like that, one forgets the options one uses with mount... :)
[04:21] <narothepharoh> Strangeworl: tHANK YOU>
[04:22] <ToddEDM> chown = change owner? ;)
[04:22] <th0r> truna that's why I have a folder called 'helpfiles'
[04:22] <EdwardXp> i remember there was this dude in the channel that created a nice script to work with fuseiso; so everytime i rick click on an iso i can mount it right away
[04:22] <EdwardXp> is that script or url still available
[04:22] <AzMoo> ToddEDM: or sudo chmod a+rx filename, which will give everybody read and execute access.
[04:22] <truna> th0r, smart move, i have a howto file myself stashed..heh
[04:22] <hanasaki> how do I get ^space to get start jaapnese input?
[04:23] <zoink> i'm sharing the internet connection from my macbook to my ubuntu box, and i can ping stuff...but if i try to apt-get update or wget things it just hangs :/.  Any help?
[04:24] <IdleOne> zoink: is the mac blocking any ports?
[04:24] <truna> zoink, elaborate on your network layout, which is which ? which is the gateway, which is the one connected to the internet? ip addresses etc
[04:24] <Evolution2> my external hard drive would not mount because it still "active" I don't have windows to safely remove. how do I remount this?
[04:25] <zoink> truna: the macbook is the gateway, it is connected wirelessly.  The ubuntu box is plugged into it's ethernet port and the macbook is set to share the connection from the wireless to the ethernet
[04:25] <zoink> IdleOne: no
[04:25] <j1solutions> hello all, how's things
[04:25] <truna> Evolution2, just curiousity, which external hd do you have? is that something you put in a case yourself or those ready to plug n play type?
[04:26] <bazhang> hi j1solutions
[04:26] <truna> zoing and the ubuntu is able to ping or browse the internet without any issues using your macbook as the gateway?
[04:26] <Evolution2> truna: UPnP
[04:27] <truna> zoink and the ubuntu is able to ping or browse the internet without any issues using your macbook as the gateway?
[04:27] <Stacky> ikonia:
[04:27] <Stacky> you around?
[04:27] <Evolution2> truna: it happened before but I don't know it seems random
[04:27] <zoink> truna: i can ping just fine, i'm running ubuntu server so i don't have any browsers installed (and can't even install lynx becaus i can't update my repos)
[04:27] <shrug> !ot
[04:27] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:27] <truna> Evolution2, i'll make a not of that..i am not aware of such that ntfs puts a lock if not dismounted properly
[04:28] <Strangewor1> truna: It is working properly again
[04:28] <j1solutions> any former debian users in the room tonigth?
[04:28] <Strangewor1> truna: Thank you for helping me. :)
[04:28] <truna> zoink, when you ping, you ping which address (external) ..you can try to use w3m
[04:29] <bazhang> j1solutions: sure
[04:29] <zoink> truna: i've just been pinging random websites
[04:29] <truna> Strangewor1, am glad i am of assistance to you today
[04:29] <ToddEDM> heres a simple question , how do i find out what group im in , im adding permissions  and it says  EXAMPLE (xordan:users) ....
[04:29] <Evolution2> truna: well it says that it must be either forced or safely removed in windows. I don't have option 2
[04:29] <j1solutions> bazhang: how would you compare the 2?
[04:29] <cafuego> ToddEDM: Type 'groups' in a terminal.
[04:29] <ToddEDM> thank you
[04:29] <bazhang> j1solutions: ubuntu is far superior :}
[04:30] <cafuego> j1solutions: I still use both, does that count?
[04:30] <j1solutions> bashang: in what ways, isn't debian more flexible?
[04:30] <PirateHead> j1solutions: uBUNTU AND DEBIAN ARE VERY SIMILAR. YOU CAN INSTALL MANY DEBIAN PACKAGES ON UBUNTU.
[04:30] <truna> zoink, just wanted to confirm those are external addresses right? so i assume it is resolved? ie you are using like www.yahoo.com not numeric ip?
[04:30] <j1solutions> cafuego: when do you use which and for what
[04:30] <PirateHead> Sorry for shouting. Caps lock is the worst key on the board.
[04:31] <j1solutions> Piratehead: np
[04:31] <zoink> truna: yes, just using http://www.google.com,
[04:31] <truna> Evolution2, this is an ntfs hd right?
[04:31] <cafuego> j1solutions: I use Ubuntu for desktop machines and debian for (some) server machines (like the mail, dns and sql servers)
[04:31] <ToddEDM> cafuego: how bout users? i see that one group is called "todd"
[04:31] <th0r> PirateHead you know you can disable it
[04:31] <EdwardXp> where's the location of this ??? Import the configs to nact
[04:31] <bazhang> j1solutions: not really; ubuntu is more up to date-- faster release cycle but this is way offtopic for this channel :}
[04:31] <Evolution2> truna: sdb
[04:31] <ToddEDM> \but i figured that was me... the user
[04:31] <PirateHead> th0r: I did not know that.
[04:31] <Evolution2> and yes ntfs
[04:31] <truna> Evolution2, ah okay...
[04:31] <Fyda> PirateHead: I have caps lock mapped to Compose instead... so much more useful :)
[04:31] <ruru> I tryed NFS for firesharing on ubuntu.  but i am not liking it..all sites i read you have use terminal to set it up.  and when try they are out date or do not work.
[04:31] <th0r> PirateHead give me a sec
[04:31] <EdwardXp> Import the configs to nact???? where that on my screen ?
[04:32] <cafuego> ToddEDM: No, each user also has a group name which is identicla to the username.
[04:32] <ToddEDM> ohh ok , thank you
[04:32] <j1solutions> thanks all, i didn't want to launch and long discussion abou tthat, i just wanted a quick opinion-  want to stay on topic : )
[04:32] <ruru> Is there a gui for ubuntu to share files and printers?
[04:32] <conorkirk> I have Ubuntu installed on an iMac, and I can't type anymore... any time I type, no text comes up, but things pop up as if I typed a shortcut key...
[04:32] <cafuego> ToddEDM: Otherwise, run 'id' in the ternimal - you'll see.
[04:32] <WorkingOnWise> is there a GUI front end to check filesystems?
[04:32] <truna> zoink, the macbook has opened all the ports? i am not sure what ports do a apt-get uses to download updates or install stuff
[04:32] <ToddEDM> so it will most likely be todd:todd
[04:32] <bazhang> ruru: like samba?
[04:32] <cafuego> ToddEDM: That's what the default would be, yes.
[04:32] <zoink> truna: yes the firewall is off
[04:32] <ruru> i tried samba.  but its not working on ubuntu to ubuntu..just ubuntu to my windows box.
[04:32] <th0r> PirateHead http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50675/
[04:33] <truna> zoink, can you pastebin what route -n  result is in ubuntu?
[04:33] <ruru> i can get windows see samba on one box..but the ubuntu never can see any others
[04:33] <bazhang> ruru: you may want to look at the ubuntuguide(.org) :}
[04:33] <conorkirk> brb
[04:34] <ruru> I don't think should be that hard really.  I set options and figured it just share.  i starting think thart one of my ubuntu's has problem.  think i just try reinstall after pull harddrive put in other computer to get files first.
[04:34] <EdwardXp> Import the configs to nact???? where that on my screen ???? its' not on ubuntu,
[04:35] <ruru> thanks for the help
[04:35] <harveyd> ever since ubuntu updated firefox its become terribly unstable
[04:35] <truna> zoink do you have w3m on your server?
[04:36] <zoink> truna: yes
[04:36] <ottothecow> are there boot options for ubuntu-server that force it to configure a static ip?
[04:36] <harveyd> running the automatic updates, nothing special installed
[04:36] <zoink> truna: i'm nopasting route -n now
[04:36] <truna> zoink use that to browse..
[04:36]  * Ttech pokes  with a large stick
[04:36] <truna> zoink yeah i just realized..
[04:36] <harveyd> but I cant run firefox for more than a few minutes without crashing
[04:36] <Ttech> sorry
[04:36] <zoink> truna: http://nopaste.com/p/aCAhyAr6
[04:36] <th0r> ottothecow atr startup it will configure each interface as it is defined in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:36] <Ttech> harveyd, just a long shot, but try disabling the ubufox plugin
[04:37] <fotoflo> this new ubuntu isntall is a cow
[04:37] <ottothecow> th0r, I'd like to configure the interface manually during the install (the server install currently pulls a dhcp lease)
[04:37] <tuntun_> what does this mean: "/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[04:37] <tuntun_> "?
[04:37] <bazhang> fotoflo: have an actual issue? or just want to vent :}
[04:37] <truna> zoink, your route table is okay, now  on ubuntu  sudo iptables -vL  just to see if any rules is there..and tell me the policies or rules if any
[04:37] <harveyd> k, disabled, ill see how long it survives
[04:37] <harveyd> cheers
[04:38] <truna> ottothecow, i advised you earlier of using /etc/network/interfaces to set static ip address...did you do it?
[04:38] <fotoflo> bazhang: lots of issues,  rightnow cpan isnt working, and thats getting in the way of my life
[04:38] <th0r> ottothecow ah....don't know about that...never tried it.
[04:38] <zoink> truna: no rules
[04:39] <fotoflo> anyone know how to get cpan working
[04:39] <fotoflo> ?
[04:39] <truna> zoink, and default policy is all accept?
[04:39] <bazhang> cpan fotoflo; err is that c-span?
[04:39] <ottothecow> truna, I want to do it from the installer not after the install
[04:39] <zoink> truna: actually i'm not sure acutally, not too familiar with iptables, ill nopaste it
[04:39] <sayers> Lets say I am an admin of my server, which I am, so not hypotheticly speaking how would I found out how big someones /home is?
[04:39] <truna> ottothecow, then you have to modify the iso config file ..same /etc/network/interfaces
[04:39] <sigil> fotoflo: try "perl -MCPAN -e shell" maybe
[04:39] <tuntun_> the taskbar and titlebar have dissapeared, what key combo will open a gui terminal so i can start metacity?
[04:40] <zoink> truna: http://nopaste.com/p/ajp8c10NN
[04:40] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me out
[04:40] <th0r> sayers 'df /home/<username>
[04:40] <ottothecow> truna, so you have to modify the iso then...no way to do it with a vanilla install disk?
[04:40] <navaburo> Malik_, just ask
[04:40] <fotoflo> sigil: cpan runs, but everythings install fails
[04:41] <Malik_> where can i find a list
[04:41] <truna> zoink it looks clean, so am not sure what is blocking your ability to do a apt-get, maybe open the sources.list and ping each of those url and see i fyou are hitting it from the ubuntu?
[04:41] <Malik_> a list of things that work with windows and not linux
[04:41] <IdleOne> fotoflo: what are you trying to install?
[04:41] <tuntun_> the taskbar and titlebar have dissapeared, what key combo will open a gui terminal so i can start metacity?
[04:41] <sigil> fotoflo: are you installing as root, or have you use "o conf" to set the make prefix to your home dir
[04:41] <ikt> et
[04:41] <navaburo> Malik_, by _things_ do you mean software programs?
[04:41] <bazhang> Malik_: that is not really a linux question is it?
[04:41] <Malik_> yea
[04:41] <sayers> th0r, no :( ?
[04:41] <zoink> truna: i already tried to ping the ip that i was timing out on (the first one) and i can ping it..i just can't seem to download anything
[04:41] <Malik_> it is
[04:41] <truna> ottothecow, the vanilla install uses dhcp, you can verify by loading the ..hang on..let me check
[04:41] <fotoflo> sigil: how do i install as root?
[04:42] <fotoflo> sigil: first sudo -i?
[04:42] <IdleOne> Malik_: ask in ##windows
[04:42] <bazhang> Malik_: works with windows can be found in ##windows
[04:42] <Malik_> no works with linux
[04:42] <fotoflo> a ha!
[04:42] <tuntun_> malik_:wikipedia has lots of theose kinds of lists
[04:42] <Malik_> yea thats wat i ment programs that work with linux
[04:42] <IdleOne> fotoflo: what are you trying to install?
[04:42] <sigil> fotoflo: sudo cpan should work, although apt-get install is preferable for perl modules with packages
[04:42] <Malik_> can u gimem a link
[04:42] <bazhang> Malik_: try #linuxhelp
[04:43] <Malik_> like the chat channel?
[04:43] <zoink> truna: this is my macbook's firewall, http://nopaste.com/p/aRAw5YLtU, does anything there look fishy?
[04:43] <fotoflo> sigil: sudo cpan didnt worik
[04:43] <bazhang> Malik_: yes
[04:43] <fotoflo> trying sudo -i
[04:43] <Malik_> alrite ty
[04:43] <fotoflo> then cpan
[04:43] <fotoflo> seems promising
[04:43] <truna> zoink, hang on, let me look
[04:43] <Malik_> but wait
[04:43] <Malik_> i need a list of thigns that work on ubuntu not jus linux
[04:43] <IdleOne> fotoflo: dont answer me because I might be able to tell you how to install the app without breaking your system
[04:44] <th0r> sayers you're right...it looked like it worked at first, but on closer examination it isn't giving what ithough...sorry
[04:44] <truna> zoink, i cant remember the ipfw rules ..so i dont know if it is really open or not
[04:44] <tuntun_> malik_:nah, :), just search for "web browser" etc
[04:44] <nano_> SMEGMA
[04:44] <Malik_> wat?
[04:44] <tuntun_> the taskbar and titlebar have dissapeared, what key combo will open a gui terminal so i can start metacity??
[04:44] <bazhang> Malik_: this is not a chat channel
[04:44] <sayers> th0r, yeah I've tried df du ls , nothing does what I need
[04:44] <Malik_> its a ubuntu help channel
[04:45] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Hello, I need some help with mine Sound Drivers... I got Ubuntu 7.10 Gibsy Gibbon...
[04:45] <Malik_> and i need ur help
[04:45] <tuntun_> the taskbar and titlebar have dissapeared, what key combo will open a gui terminal so i can start metacity??
[04:45] <fotoflo> "Where is your unzip program? "
[04:45] <fr500> tuntun_: maybe alt-f2¿
[04:45] <ottothecow> tuntun_, you could try your keycombo for deskbar
[04:45] <fotoflo> IdleOne: sorry, didnt see you
[04:45] <blitz_x> fotoflo: who you quoting?
[04:45] <ottothecow> tuntun_, or alt-f2
[04:45] <IdleOne> Malik_: there are thousands of programs that work with ubuntu look at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> can some one help me?
[04:46] <Malik_> alrite
[04:46] <fotoflo> IdleOne: installing a bunch of perl packages
[04:46] <truna> ottothecow, do you have a linux now? you can mount that iso and look at the config file on it
[04:46] <peepsalot> if i installed the regular x86 ubuntu on an x86 processor, is it possible to upgrade later to 64bit, or will I need a complete reinstall?
[04:46] <zoink> truna: alright, thanks for the help though :/
[04:46] <fotoflo> cpan wants to know where my unzip program is
[04:46] <fotoflo> i just did an apt-get install unzip
[04:46] <ottothecow> Malik_, are there any specific programs oyu are wondering about
[04:46] <peepsalot> i mean on a 64bit proc
[04:46] <th0r> sayers found this....  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274451
[04:46] <IdleOne> fotoflo: did you check synaptic?
[04:46] <fotoflo> but there is still no /bin/unzip
[04:46] <Malik_> yea office 2007
[04:46] <tuntun_> alt-f2 doesn't seem to do anything... :\
[04:46] <fotoflo> there is a /bin/bunzip2 and a /bin/gunzip
[04:46] <bazhang> peepsalot: 64bit on a 32bit system?
[04:46] <fotoflo> IdleOne: for ?
[04:46] <ottothecow> truna, If it take's a custom ISO, it isnt right for what I am trying to do
[04:47] <truna> zoink, if you can really verify that the ipfw rules are open, maybe disable it temporarily and make sure the macbook can really do NAT and port forwarding
[04:47] <IdleOne> all those perl packages
[04:47] <musikgoat> whats the standard dd command to copy the image of a disk to another of the same size
[04:47] <IdleOne> nm prolly reading wrong
[04:47] <peepsalot> bazhang, no the hardware supports 64bit, but I just realized i am installing from the 32bit CD
[04:47] <fotoflo> IdleOne: i dont think i have synaptic
[04:47]  * IdleOne goes to bed
[04:47] <j1solutions> fotoflo: try 'which unzip'
[04:47] <truna> ottothecow, the ubuntu install cd? its not really customized, but it can be mounted and look inside it
[04:47] <fotoflo> j1solutions: thanks
[04:47] <blitz_x> fotoflo: if you have ubuntu, you have synaptic
[04:47] <peepsalot> bazhang, will it be possible to fix later, or will I need to completely start over?
[04:47] <ottothecow> truna, I am trying to write instructoins for someone else to get a base server install ready and then use a custom script to install some software
[04:47] <bazhang> peepsalot: no way to upgrade
[04:47] <peepsalot> doh
[04:47] <sayers> th0r, awesome
[04:48] <tuntun_> the taskbar and titlebar have dissapeared, what key combo will open a gui terminal so i can start metacity?? :( :( :(
[04:48] <peepsalot> is there a large performance difference in runnning 32bit vs 64bit software on the same 64bit hardware?
[04:48] <th0r> sayers wonderful place this internet....buried among all the lies are some fantastic truths
[04:48] <zoink> truna: ill give it a try
[04:48] <truna> ottothecow, you dont need to have the server access the internet at install time anyways..so one can modify the network right after the 1st boot
[04:48] <ottothecow> truna, so these people won't be making custom disks...I guess I will just have to write them instructions to set it up after install if there is no other way
[04:49] <peepsalot> anyone using 64bit ubuntu w/ mythtv?
[04:49] <truna> ottothecow, the only other way is again to modify the iso file
[04:49] <fotoflo> blitz_x: i think synaptic is a GUI program right?
[04:49] <fotoflo> what is ncftpget?
[04:49] <bazhang> peepsalot: many do, sure
[04:49] <matt2292> which filesystem would be ideal for manipulating and reading large files (mainly videos). i've heard xfs is good for this but wasn't sure.
[04:50] <bazhang> peepsalot: one guy was using ps3/mediatomb streaming content to his house via ubuntu box--lots of interesting combos out there
[04:50] <truna> ottothecow, a simple script to put a static ip address on that interfaces file should be easy as part of your install script
[04:51] <ottothecow> truna, ah but that script is fetched with wget after install :)  no internet, no script
[04:51] <fotoflo> where do i get ncftpget? not in the standard repos?
[04:51] <Cleanser23> fotoflo try google
[04:51]  * peepsalot sighs.  "ok time to start from step 1 again"
[04:51] <blitz_x> fotoflo: yes for ubuntu, which normally uses gnome and synaptic
[04:51] <Cleanser23> it usually helps out
[04:51] <blitz_x> fotoflo: usually for console you use aptitude
[04:52] <feihung> I am newbie , I am installing ubuntu server now I need to mount USB thumbdrive , what is the command from terminal thanks
[04:52] <kewlguy> hows ubuntu with 8800gt? heard theres lot of issues with that
[04:52] <bazhang> peepsalot: if you make a seperate /home then less of a hassle next time
[04:52] <Cleanser23> fotoflo: but instead of aptitude use the sudo apt-get ncftget
[04:52] <truna> ottothecow, but even if it has internet and wget a script, i dont know if you can get and execute in same wget command..so you have an extra step anyways
[04:52] <randorfer> cleanser23 apt-get install ncftget
[04:53] <truna> feihung, no commands, just insert a fat16 like formatted usb drive
[04:53] <fotoflo> Cleanser23: did that work for you? i dont think its in the repo
[04:53] <Cleanser23> randorfer: thanks i forgot
[04:53] <feihung> truna, so it's not recognize Fat32 ?
[04:53] <Cleanser23> fotoflo: damn your right, try to find it's official website and see if they have a tarball or a .deb
[04:53] <dr_willis> Hmm.  Ubuntu server - automounts usb media? I thought kde or gnome needed tobe running for that to work
[04:53] <ottothecow> truna, but it's easy to tell someone to type 'wget ...' './script.sh'...people will get more confused when they have to setup the network in a text file
[04:54] <truna> feihung, maybe it does..try and see for yourself, one nice thing about linux is you get to try and experience
[04:54] <fotoflo> maybe i dont need it for cpan
[04:54] <chump> hey guys whats the base GUI that ubuntu is installed with
[04:54] <neil_d> hi, I am trying to setup vncserver to work via xinetd, but every time I try vncviewer I get a 'connected to host....' then 3 seconds latter a 'End of stream' message can anyone help ?
[04:54] <blitz_x> chump:gnome
[04:54] <ottothecow> unless there is a dpkg-reconfigure type interface for the network
[04:54] <feihung> truna, yes I did it and nothing in /media/
[04:54] <randorfer> chump xorg
[04:55] <truna> ottothecow, again, thats just getting the script, you still have to tell the installer to run the script.. :)
[04:55] <truna> feihung  type mount in a terminal and you should see what is mounted
[04:55] <wibou> truna : if you want to do it the old way, type "dmesg" after you plug the device to find out where is it mapped then try "mount -t vfat /dev/sdSOMETHING /media/SOMEWHERE"
[04:55] <ottothecow> truna, I did... "./script.sh" ...but that part is tested to work fine
[04:56] <wibou> truna : oups sorry wrong name
[04:56] <truna> ottothecow, oh yeah have it all in one larger script, 1st line to set the network and then to wget in the next line
[04:56] <fotoflo> hey! it appears to be working!
[04:56] <wibou> feihung : my last reply to truna was for you :P
[04:56] <briantumor> what does this mean? http://rafb.net/p/s509G763.html
[04:56] <zero88> so what is up with gutsy and the flash plugin for firefox?
[04:56] <briantumor> wtf
[04:56] <Cleanser23> fotoflo: what does?
[04:57] <feihung> wibou thanks
[04:57] <truna> briantumor, what is your interpretation?
[04:57] <ottothecow> truna, how are they going to get that script without network?
[04:57] <igoogle> how about 8.04
[04:57] <briantumor> truna, i have enough space
[04:57] <chump> hey guys whats the base GUI that ubuntu is installed with
[04:57] <briantumor> truna, i just want to know if it installed
[04:57] <zero88> so what is up with gutsy and the flash plugin for firefox? i cant get it to install using apt-get
[04:58] <zero88> chump gnome
[04:58] <zero88> chump gnome or kde
[04:58] <Cody> just go to adobe.com and download flash from there
[04:58] <truna> ottothecow, oh well, since ip address (static) has to be doled out by an admin, i will assume the installer have some smartness :)
[04:58] <zero88> cody source? or .deb?
[04:58] <chump> what is the network manager its installed with
[04:58] <Cody> should be source
[04:58] <igoogle> different
[04:59] <Matir> Anyone aware of a linux-compatible presentation remote I can use with my laptop?
[04:59] <truna> briantumor, it didnt seem like it got installed per the errors
[04:59] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Hi, i just downloaded secondlife linux version and extracted it onto my desktop, how do i install it?
[04:59] <Psyco_Chipmunk> SecondLife_i686_1_18_5_3
[04:59] <briantumor> so what's the problem? :\
[05:00] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : no extension, is it a directory? What was the file at first? tar.gz?
[05:00] <neil_d> hi, I am trying to setup vncserver to work via xinetd, but every time I try vncviewer I get a 'connected to host....' then 3 seconds latter a 'End of stream' message can anyone help ?
[05:00] <truna> briantumor, can you prefix your responses to me with my nick or else i will miss it..
[05:00] <briantumor> ok
[05:00] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  ya
[05:00] <Malik_> wat r the programs u can use to run windows applications on ubuntu
[05:00] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  its on my desktop
[05:01] <briantumor> truna, so what's the problem?
[05:01] <neil_d> Malik_: wine !
[05:01] <Malik_> is that the only 1?
[05:01] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ok, look like they are giving you the source of something... humm you will need to compile this thing
[05:01] <Cody> does anyone know how to install an x-fi sound blaster card? I've checked the forums, and their solutions wont work on mine
[05:01] <PurpZeY> Malik_: There is list of programs on the Wine website, in addition many other programs will run but are not listed
[05:01] <blitz_x> !sessions
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <truna> briantumor, if i read those errors correctly, it says you have not space left, are they in the correct partition?
[05:01] <navaburo> The FAQ is outdated
[05:01] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  how do i do that?
[05:01] <briantumor> yeah, i have enough space left
[05:01] <neil_d> Malik_: you can use a virtual computer setup like qemu etc, install windows to it and run your app.
[05:01] <Malik_> no but is that the only program or r there others to
[05:01] <navaburo> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq   doesn't mention Gutsy. It says Feisty is the newest version.
[05:02] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Wine is just a windows emulator
[05:02] <briantumor> truna, http://rafb.net/p/IA5M0v13.html
[05:02] <Malik_> so how much % stuff r copatiable
[05:02] <WorkingOnWise> is there any way to use a windows video codec in linux, in firefox. the codec I need is not available in linux in either source or binary format. Is there any way to get it to work in ubuntu firefox?
[05:02] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ok, open a terminal and enter the uncompressed directory (using "cd" command of course)
[05:03] <truna> briantumor, do you notice that your /boot is 95% full?
[05:03] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  that wah?!
[05:03] <briantumor> truna,  why is that a problem, i didn't upgrade the kernel
[05:03] <truna> briantumor, read the errors you pasted earlier carefully, in what it attempts to do in  /boot/
[05:04] <Cody> Are there any X-Fi experts out there?
[05:04] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : the installer thing was a tar.gz when you downloaded it and it's now a directory, isn't it?
[05:04] <briantumor> truna, what does it do? :\
[05:04] <truna> briantumor, come on. .read it please
[05:04] <bazhang> Cody: got a question about wireless?
[05:04] <briantumor> truna, update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[05:04] <truna> briantumor  Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic  <--- see this?
[05:05] <Cody> about my sound card?
[05:05] <Cody> and I have a wireless network
[05:05] <Cody> that is being recognized
[05:05] <truna> briantumor, so where do you think it is writing to?
[05:05] <navaburo> Malik_, no software is compatable out-of-the-box, since Linux cannot run windows executables. There are different ways that software may work however. 1) The developers of that program wrote a Linux version, or used a cross platform language (like java), 2) you find an alternative program that is made for Linux, 3) you try running the application via Wine (or Crossover) and last resort 4) you run VMWare, qemu, VirtualBox, or some ot
[05:05] <navaburo> her emulator to run Windows and then your application on top of it
[05:05] <briantumor> truna, why does it need to do that?
[05:05] <briantumor> truna, i'm just trying to install jackd
[05:05] <truna> briantumor, i dont know why it has to generate such, i dont know what you are doing
[05:05] <briantumor> this happened when i tried to install imagemagick as well
[05:05] <truna> briantumor, but do you agree with me that your /boot is 95% full?
[05:06] <briantumor> yeah
[05:06] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : hmm?
[05:06] <briantumor> package management systems suck
[05:06] <truna> briantumor, well, and per the error it generates something in same /boot dir  so it will fill er up quick
[05:06] <bazhang> briantumor: surely you jest
[05:06] <wibou> briantumor : install everything from source... then trust me you will LOVE package management
[05:07] <briantumor> wibou, i do install everything from source :P
[05:07] <briantumor> i'm on slackware
[05:07] <WorkingOnWise> wibou: lol hahaha...yeah
[05:07] <wibou> briantumor : tss tss evil guy :P   I used to be... like 5 years ago :P
[05:07] <JasonWoof> what's the command to suspend (and hybernate) with acpi?
[05:07] <releod> what is the command to open a file or folder from the command line (gutsy)
[05:07] <truna> briantumor, perhaps your depmod recognized your image needs upgrade so it generated such?
[05:08] <briantumor> hrm.. ok
[05:08] <bazhang> releod: why do that?
[05:08] <netlarlinux> How would I mount a hard drive
[05:08] <Cody> Does anyone know how to correctly install X-Fi drivers on gutsy gibbon?
[05:08] <briantumor> wibou, oh? what distro were you using then?
[05:08] <JasonWoof> "apm -s" doesn't work, I think because I've got apci enabled. the "hybernate" button in the gnome logout dialog works. How do I acchieve the same sort of thing without gnome?
[05:08] <netlarlinux> I do not know what the hard drive is, I can see it on my desktop, but cannot access it
[05:09] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  sorry, pizza, ya
[05:09] <bazhang> ntfs netlarlinux?
[05:09] <releod> bazhang: because that's how I roll.. no reason specifically just wondering how
[05:09] <briantumor> wibou, i'm very happy without package management breathing down my neck
[05:09] <neil_d> hi, I am trying to setup vncserver to work via xinetd, but every time I try vncviewer I get a 'connected to host....' then 3 seconds latter a 'End of stream' message can anyone help ?
[05:09] <wibou> briantumor : Slackware... then Gentoo. I switched to ubunto a month ago. the "automagic-everything" is fun but it miss the good old kernel recompilation stuff :(
[05:09] <bazhang> releod: how you roll? haha
[05:10] <releod> :)
[05:10] <laymu> my firefox can't play flash ,can anyone help me ?
[05:10] <JasonWoof> releod: you want to do what with a file or folder?
[05:10] <linxeh> laymu: install flash
[05:10] <bazhang> is flash still broken?
[05:10] <linxeh> ;-)
[05:10] <laymu> yes
[05:10] <wibou> briantumor : no package management mean hell to keep up-to-date. I would kill by my any sysadmin running server on compiled stuff :P
[05:10] <netlarlinux> it says command not found bazhang
[05:10] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  tar.bz2 acctually
[05:10] <Strangework> can anyone recommend an application that films the stuff that happens on my desktop?
[05:10] <laymu> I have install flash
[05:10] <Strangework> preferably something that monitors a single window
[05:10] <laymu> but it doesn't work
[05:11] <zcat[1]> Strangework: gtkrecordmydesktop
[05:11] <bazhang> netlarlinux: ah sorry; what file format is the hdd in? ntfs format?
[05:11] <mzahir> whenever I unmount my ipod-touch I cannot play music on my ipod but can it fine through gtkpod/amarok....any ideas?
[05:11] <releod> JasonWoof: I want to open a folder or disk image from within the Terminal
[05:11] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ok, the directory should contain a bunch of source and such now but you need to tell me. Do you know how to use a terminal?
[05:11] <briantumor> wibou, that means your sysadmin should be fired
[05:11] <releod> it can open in the GUI or whatever
[05:11] <Strangework> zcat[1]; haha! thanks!
[05:11] <netlarlinux> I am not sure bazhang
[05:11] <mzahir> *can play it fine
[05:11] <briantumor> wibou, maybe i can take their jobs
[05:11] <wibou> briantumor : you will need to learn to use apt-get first :P
[05:11] <netlarlinux> It is a pc that was handed to me, do not know much about it bazhang
[05:11] <briantumor> :P
[05:12] <igoogle> 8.04
[05:12] <igoogle> how about
[05:12] <bazhang> netlarlinux: an external hdd? you can see it but not open it?
[05:12] <netlarlinux> When I look at the properties of the drive on the desktop, it says the owner is Root
[05:12] <Aqua> evenin' folks
[05:12] <netlarlinux> yes bazhang
[05:12] <bazhang> !hardy | igoogle
[05:12] <ubotu> igoogle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:13] <netlarlinux> I cannot save to it bazhang
[05:13] <Aqua> anyone familiar with lirc in ubuntu?
[05:13] <laymu> sb
[05:13] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g | netlarlinux
[05:13] <ubotu> netlarlinux: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:13] <tenemag> hi
[05:13] <Shadow_X_> ok i seriously have a problem
[05:13] <tenemag> have a quick question...
[05:13] <tenemag> well two really
[05:13] <wibou> JasonWoof : try :   echo -n "disk" > /sys/power/state
[05:13] <wibou> JasonWoof : assuming you want to suspend to disk
[05:13] <Shadow_X_> i just upgraded ubuntu and its totally not even booting right
[05:13] <tenemag> firt one should be simple...  Pidgin... I accedently removed it from the system tray a now i can't get it back up there, how can i fix that
[05:13] <netlarlinux> I do not know if it is ntfs
[05:13] <igoogle> bazhang:  i use 8.04 now
[05:14] <Detedagowa|WoW> hey all
[05:14] <netlarlinux> It is just a second hd in the second bay of the pc
[05:14] <igoogle> bazhang:  found many bugs
[05:14] <PurpZeY> Shadow_X_: What's going on with the boot?
[05:14] <JasonWoof> wibou: I just discovered /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh I'm guessing that's cleaner somehow
[05:14] <laymu> sb
[05:14] <bazhang> igoogle: then proceed to the appropriate channel #ubuntu+1 :}
[05:14] <Shadow_X_> its been attempting to boot for nearly 3 hours, and its spitting out a bunch of garbage
[05:14] <Shadow_X_> one sec and ill type out the error
[05:14] <wibou> JasonWoof : somehow, but basically it's a script doing the command I told you (plus several nice stuff before). :)
[05:14] <SANTAbios> how do i find out what usergroup i am in?
[05:15] <bazhang> Shadow_X_: dont paste them here
[05:15] <bazhang> !paste | Shadow_X_
[05:15] <ubotu> Shadow_X_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  ya
[05:15] <Shadow_X_> oh great, its giving i/o errors on the drives
[05:15] <SANTAbios> how do i find out what usergroup i am in?
[05:15] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  ok, i wont go away this time
[05:16] <Detedagowa|WoW> booting linux brb all
[05:16] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  there was some really good weat that my mom cooked.
[05:16] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/ SANTAbios
[05:16] <netlarlinux> can I just reformat that drive bazhang?
[05:16] <Shadow_X_> is there anyway to gain access to previously protected ext3 files from a different instance of the distro?
[05:16] <bazhang> netlarlinux: you can try :}
[05:16] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ok... so open a terminal, then enter the directory. Then use "ls" to paste me what you have in there to pastebin
[05:16] <Shadow_X_> i.e. is there any way to access the old files on the drive from the livecd to back them all up?
[05:16] <bazhang> !parted | netlarlinux
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <fotoflo> phpmyadmin doesnt appear to be in the default repos... do i need to add some repo to install it?
[05:17] <zcat[1]> about every second week, my machine locks up and I get thousands of write errors on /dev/hdb..  any chance this is just a kernel bug and I don't need a new hdd? :)
[05:17] <bazhang> !info parted
[05:17] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-5.1ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 55 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:17] <Slart> Shadow_X_: unless you've encrypted stuff I don't think linux goes out of it's way to uphold and permissions on files of another system
[05:17] <wibou> Shadow_X_ : Livecd files got deleted once you shutdown... in fact unless you are missing ram it does not use the disk at all
[05:17] <Slart> Shadow_X_: so.. in shorter words.. yes =)
[05:17] <Shadow_X_> lol good
[05:17] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  wait, how do i find what derectory it is?
[05:18] <wibou> Shadow_X_ : hummm sorry read your question backward :P
[05:18] <Shadow_X_> its an OLD dell desktop that i modified into a basica network server
[05:18] <Slart> zcat[1]: the error's goes away if you do a hard reboot?
[05:18] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : it's on desktop? Then it should be something like "cd ~YOUR_USER/Desktop/Folder_name"
[05:18] <Shadow_X_> and considering it has been upgrading and rebooting for nearly 24 hours, i guess its safe to assume a fresh install is in order :P
[05:18] <zcat[1]> Slart: yeah..
[05:19] <zcat[1]> Slart: I'm pretty sure the drive is toast..
[05:19] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  ok
[05:20] <Slart> zcat[1]: I had something like that on an old debian box.. in that case I think it was a bug in a driver or something.. used an adaptec sata card to do software raid.. the drives worked nicely without that card and has worked for almost a year now without any trouble.. I might just be lucky
[05:20] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  luke@luke-laptop:~/Desktop/SecondLife_i686_1_18_5_3$
[05:20] <netlarlinux> bazhang, the drive says it does not have a valid partitoin
[05:20] <sesho> hello
[05:20] <FactTech> Question: I'm still a relative newbie. I have a question about Linux's handling of hardware changes: If I install a distro (e.g. Xubuntu) on a machine but later remove hardware (e.g. a sound card), will I need to make any changes? If I install a different type of sound card, will it be automatically detected on the next boot?
[05:20] <tenemag> anyone know how to fix the pidgin problem?
[05:20] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : great, then type "ls" and use pastebin to show me what's in there
[05:20] <bazhang> netlarlinux: using gparted?
[05:20] <sesho> FactTech: linux should recognise teh new hardware at boot
[05:21] <bazhang> tenemag: you want to add an applet to the panel?
[05:21] <laymu> what's gparted?
[05:21] <tenemag> yes
[05:21] <kote> FactTech: depends on the software, you may have to install drivers for it if its new or obscure, and it may not have any drivers
[05:21] <Slart> FactTech: in my experience, linux is much more flexible when it comes to changing hardware.. if you don't change architecture you should be fine
[05:21] <netlarlinux> Oh, i am not using that, I will get that
[05:21] <tenemag> i removed it from the panel by accident
[05:21] <kote> FactTech: mostly you should be ok
[05:21] <tenemag> the right hand side
[05:21] <tenemag> and now i can't figure out how to get it so i stay connected when i close the buddy list out
[05:21] <wibou> FactTech : you should be fine, most of time. It actually works better than windoze on that most of time :P
[05:21] <Psyco_Chipmunk> Whats the link to a paistbin?  Anyone?
[05:21] <Slart> !paste
[05:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:21] <zcat[1]> Slart: I was suspecting it might be an incompatability between the tv card and nvidia.. I've had issues with the two in the past and it doesn't do it when the TV card's not in.. but then if the TV card's not in, it's also not writing security camera images 24/7 so that might also explain it..
[05:21] <FactTech> sesho, kote, Slart, wibou -- Thanks for the encouragement!
[05:22] <Shadow_X_> does anyone know why ubuntu would take so long to load on a P2?
[05:22] <cruzeiro> Hi, I'm trying to make ubuntu boot on my laptop (vaio vgn-cr25g).. The problem is during the boot with liveCD there's no X... Just a blackscreen... any ideia?
[05:22] <zcat[1]> jfgi? there are a million pastebin sites if you do a google search..
[05:22] <Shadow_X_> er, P3
[05:22] <sesho> Psyco_Chipmunk: I think the link appears at the top of the channel
[05:22] <lost`> looking for someone who runs any of the HL2 based games (using steam),  looking to see how your running it.  Am using wine but with performance drops.
[05:22] <wibou> Shadow_X_ : my guess would be because the computer is ten years old ?
[05:22] <tenemag> how can i add it to the top right corner again
[05:22] <Psyco_Chipmunk> sesho,  got it
[05:23] <detedagowa> hey all i have a p[roblem with trying to upgrade when it starts to upgrade it shows me this Unable to get exclusive lock
[05:23] <Slart> zcat[1]: hmm.. there is a small application called "stress" that does lots of nasty things.. calculates stuff.. writes a little to the harddrive.. moves some memory.. and again.. and again.. you could try running that for a day or two.. just to try to provoke something
[05:23] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  http://pastebin.com/m28ca915b
[05:23] <Shadow_X_> yea but its not running X, just apache, mysql, samba, and a few other basic daemons
[05:23] <cali_love22> yo shiznits
[05:23] <bazhang> tenemag: what does right clicking on the panel do?
[05:23] <FactTech> sesho, kote, Slart, wibou -- My New Year's resolution is to ditch Windows completely. This will help.
[05:23] <bazhang> cali_love22: please with the language
[05:23] <sesho> FactTech: good luck
[05:23] <jerem2> looking for help getting window borders to show using compiz?
[05:23] <wibou> Shadow_X_ : no seriously, ubuntu is quite "heavy" for a linux distribution... if you want to run it on old stuff, you should maybe consider lightweight linux distribution
[05:23] <grep100> need to play rm or real media files occasionally, searched the web and downloaded real_media_10_gold.bin the question is what do I do with it to make it work
[05:24] <PurpZeY> jerem2: This is a common problem ask in #compiz
[05:24] <Shadow_X_> any reccomendations for a lightweight distro? one thats easy to use like ubuntu?
[05:24] <Shadow_X_> what about xubuntu?
[05:24] <briantumor> what's partition resizing tool on ubuntu?
[05:24] <sesho> Shadow_X_: i like Sidux
[05:24] <PurpZeY> Shadow_X_: xubuntu or puppy linux
[05:24] <bazhang> actually its #compiz-fusion jerem2
[05:24] <jerem2> PurpZey,
[05:24] <Slart> Shadow_X_: xubuntu is a little easier on the hardware.. no bling bling.. but it's still nice enough
[05:24] <FactTech> wibou -- re: lightweight distributions, which ones do you recommend? I want to build some "refurbish" jobs on machines as far back as the 500MHz era.
[05:24] <zcat[1]> Shadow_X_: xubuntu is still pretty heavy.. puppy or feather are light
[05:24] <jerem2> thankyou, will go there
[05:24] <briantumor> anyone?
[05:24] <Shadow_X_> kk ill check on a few of em
[05:24] <PurpZeY> My mistake
[05:24] <detedagowa> can somone help me i trying to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 and it shows me Unable to get exclusive lock error message and says i have apt-get or aptitude running idk how i would have it running upgrade is the first aplication i opened up
[05:24] <wibou> FactTech : start one step at a time. It's not easy, even if it might seems to. And make sure to be patient and to keep your windoze on dual boot. Took me about 1 years to (let's say) "master" linux, back in time
[05:25] <bazhang> briantumor: about sidux?
[05:25] <Slart> hmm.. feather linux.. that's the name? think I'm going to have to do some googling =)
[05:25] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  got that?
[05:25] <jerem2> compiz-fusion, go it, thanks
[05:25] <laymu> Are there any anti-virus software for ubuntu?
[05:25] <tenemag_> srry closed out by accident
[05:25] <bazhang> !aptfix | detedagowa
[05:25] <ubotu> detedagowa: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:25] <tenemag_> umm i can create a new panel or add an applet
[05:25] <Slart> laymu: there's always clamav.. and I think f-secure has a linux av
[05:25] <wibou> FactTech : depending what you want to do...
[05:25] <laymu> thanks
[05:25] <zcat[1]> puppy seems to be the most popular light distro with ppl I know...
[05:25] <Slart> laymu: be sure you really need it though.. there are hardly any viruses for linux
[05:26] <bazhang> tenemag_: then do so for pidgin
[05:26] <laymu> hmmm
[05:26] <sesho> arch linux is very fast but not that easy to tweak
[05:26] <netlarlinux> bazhang i can see the drive in gparted now
[05:26] <detedagowa> | bazhang thank you
[05:26] <netlarlinux> Can I reformat it from there?
[05:26] <bazhang> netlarlinux: nice
[05:26] <Slart> laymu: there are some root kit searchers too.. rkhunter is one
[05:26] <bazhang> netlarlinux: sure, why not?
[05:26] <BloodyScum> where can i set up hotkeys to change desktop panes? or can i?
[05:26] <FactTech> wibou Well, just a "basic" machine for non-technical users. Typically I use Xubuntu for a machine like that but it's a bit slow. Any recommendations for a distribution that is fine for web surfing, email, and OpenOffice?
[05:26] <netlarlinux> Do I reformat it to ext2 bazhang?
[05:26] <briantumor> what partition resizing tool does ubuntu come with????/
[05:27] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : yup sorry...
[05:27] <briantumor> by default, without having to install something with apt-get
[05:27] <Slart> briantumor: none afaik.. but you can install gparted
[05:27] <peepsalot> i'm setting up a 1TB mythTV backend.  hostname: NASty
[05:27] <zcat[1]> anything with OOo is no longer a 'light' distro :)
[05:27] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : look like it's a precompiled thing... hmmmmppprf I usualy dont like this. Enter the "bin" directory in there now and print me what's in there
[05:27] <rhinovirus> hows slackware?
[05:27] <BloodyScum> briantumor i just installed gparted works great..
[05:27] <bazhang> netlarlinux: ext3 is the best for linux only; if you want to share with a windows install then something like vfat or other
[05:27] <lost`> Looking for someone who currently is using wine or another emulator for windows games.  Please message me.  Am trying to get HL2 (Steam) games to run better with Wine.  There is a large performance drop
[05:28] <briantumor> BloodyScum,  Slart, i can't install gparted because i don't have enough space in /boot
[05:28] <Slart> zcat[1]: hehe.. indeed.. OOo is a beast.. and firefox is gaining weight too =)
[05:28] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  how do i find the bin derectory?
[05:28] <sesho> briantumor: i think fdisk can do it
[05:28] <Slart> briantumor: run a live cd... just to do the resizing
[05:28] <crush_groove> Psyco_Chipmunk, cd /bin
[05:28] <wibou> FactTech : humm... it would be hard to find a lightweigth distro for non-technical users, their GUI are usually pretty... eh let's say thin.
[05:28] <briantumor> fdisk to resize?
[05:28] <BloodyScum> briantumor oh, idk then
[05:28] <kenby> FactTech:archlinux is greate
[05:29] <Shadow_X_> thanks for your help guys.
[05:29] <zcat[1]> is there a light replacement for impress? I know there's abi and gnumeric
[05:29] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : it's in the dir you pasted me... just add "/bin" at the end of the "cd" command you used earlier
[05:29] <lost`> What about win95 for a light os?
[05:29] <bazhang> FactTech: try minime
[05:29] <FactTech> wibou That's kind of what I thought. Plus, I really like being able to point people to the Ubuntu community.
[05:29] <netlarlinux> bazhang, said it could not do it, said it had "unrecognised disk label"
[05:29] <kenby> I have just switched to archlinux from ubuntu
[05:29] <bazhang> FactTech: err sorry the minimal install
[05:29] <sesho> briantumor: i am almost positive you can resize with a command line utility like fdisk or parted , read the man
[05:29] <bazhang> kenby: then this is the wrong channel :}
[05:29] <FactTech> kenby, bazhang -- thanks for the tips, I'll look into those options.
[05:29] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  ok done
[05:29] <crush_groove> kenby : comparison ?
[05:29] <briantumor> without data loss?
[05:29] <bazhang> no worries :}
[05:29] <wibou> lost` : light and crippled right? :P
[05:30] <tenemag_> nothing sitll :-\
[05:30] <zcat[1]> lost`: why not just go all the way back.. win3.11 :)
[05:30] <netlarlinux> What should I set it to
[05:30] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : "ls" and pastebin me the result again
[05:30] <tenemag_> it's not that i want a shortcut to pidgin
[05:30] <tenemag_> its when i close the buddy list
[05:30] <tenemag_> in the past it's minimized to the system tray
[05:30] <tenemag_> up by the sound control and clock
[05:30] <grep100> need to play rm or real media files occasionally, searched the web and downloaded real_media_10_gold.bin the question is what do I do with it to make it work
[05:30] <netlarlinux> what is the best disklable bazhang?
[05:30] <bazhang> !who | tenemag_
[05:30] <ubotu> tenemag_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:30] <tenemag_> now i close it and it exits
[05:30] <zcat[1]> scarey thing, I know people who still do stuff in DOS
[05:30] <Slart> nnggh.. back to windows 95.. it might look all roses and fluffy clouds in you memory.. but do you remember having to reboot cause you changed ip? =)
[05:30] <bazhang> zcat[1]: dosbox!
[05:31] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin  libllkdu.so   is all it says
[05:31] <sesho> grep100: run the bin file
[05:31] <bazhang> netlarlinux: used gparted before?
[05:31] <zcat[1]> nah, drdos on old 286's and stuff
[05:31] <netlarlinux> never have
[05:31] <tenemag_> anyone?
[05:31] <netlarlinux> it says msdos is the default bazhang
[05:31] <Slart> tenemag_: isn't there a setting for that somewhere? hang on..
[05:31] <tenemag_> aight
[05:32] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : pfff do-not-directly.... gna they are funny now, are they.
[05:32] <grep100> not sure how to run a file, I don't see any run command, or do I run it in a terminal?
[05:32] <bazhang> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php netlarlinux
[05:32] <linxeh> Slart: I remember having to reboot because I sneezed with win95...
[05:32] <tenemag_> Slart: I could even remove the sound control and clock if i wanted to by selecting "remove panel"
[05:32] <function1> is alsa supposed to set up virtual midi ports by default?
[05:32] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: what am I doing wrong? I want to kill Xserver so I can install nvidia's driver
[05:32] <tenemag_> err Remove FROM panel
[05:32] <Slart> tenemag_: yes.. you can get a clean panel if you really want..
[05:33] <dvm> I'm having a little problem with LDAP integration with system, can someone help me?
[05:33] <tenemag_> how?
[05:33] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: trying to use /sbin/init 3 like I've read everywhere, but it does nothing
[05:33] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou, so what do i do?
[05:33] <tenemag_> err i mean how can i put things back on it lol
[05:33] <Slart> tenemag_: there is a setting for "show system tray icon".. in preferences
[05:33] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: could you describe a bit more? what is the issue? can you not boot into safe mode?
[05:33] <Slart> tenemag_: oh.. just right-click on the panel and select "add"
[05:33] <tenemag_> i was trying to remove the deskbar applet but i selected te wrong one lol
[05:33] <sesho> grep100: open a terminal
[05:33] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: if /etc/init.d/gdm stop didn't do it.. killall xinit might help
[05:33] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : trying to find documentation about it... they did not provide you any docs?
[05:33] <tenemag_> Slart: i've tried that, it just makes a shortcut to Open pidgin
[05:34] <elias> Hello
[05:34] <bazhang> hi elias
[05:34] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: I don't know the F6 option to use, so I was trying to kill x, and there are 10 different ways to do that, none of which seem to work
[05:34] <Slart> tenemag_: right click on an empty panel part.. select "Add to panel"
[05:34] <sesho> grep100: cd to the dir where you downloaded to , so if you downloaded the file to desktop go "cd Desktop"
[05:34] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  hold on
[05:34] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: did you try zcat[1]'s options?
[05:35] <tenemag_> Slart: what do I add to the panel then?
[05:35] <tenemag_> Slart: there's no pidgin option
[05:35] <sesho> grep100: chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:35] <sesho> grep100:  sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:35] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: You are just trying to add a launcher for pidgin?
[05:35] <Slart> tenemag_: try notification area.. it's at the bottom almost
[05:35] <sesho> grep100: thats it
[05:35] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] just now, from a terminal, not Ctrl+Alt+F1, didn't do anything
[05:35] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ctrl-alt-F1, log in as normal user, sudo -i, /etc/init.d/gdm stop, possibly killall xinit if it was in the reconfigure thingy 'cos gdm won't kill that
[05:35] <grep100> thanks
[05:35] <tenemag_> PurpZeY: no, not a laucher...
[05:35] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: I got it, you are missing the notification area
[05:36] <tenemag_> yes!
[05:36] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: Add it the same way "right click" and in the add options there is "notification area"
[05:36] <q_a_z_steve> xinit no process killed
[05:36] <Slart> tenemag_: you got your pidgin icon back?
[05:36] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]:  ^^^^
[05:36] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, you have to stop gdm form a virtual console (ctrl-alt-F1)
[05:36] <tenemag_> ah hold on
[05:36] <zcat[1]> ok I'm kinda stumped then
[05:37] <tenemag_> i dont see notification area
[05:37] <kazil> mornin` all
[05:37] <zcat[1]> stopping gdm from within a terminal works iirc.. I think I've done that before
[05:37] <bazhang> tenemag_: dont see it where?
[05:37] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  theres the readme that came with it  http://pastebin.com/m13766125
[05:37] <Slart> tenemag_: are you really sure? there are lots of icons in that "add to panel" thingy.. scroll down.. it should be down there
[05:37] <zcat[1]> not the recomended way though
[05:37] <bazhang> haha
[05:37] <PurpZeY> tenemag_: It is there.
[05:38] <cens0red> Hi. Can't get my PC to suspend or hibernate. I get an error a bit like "Sleep error. Your computer failed to suspend. Check the help file". Anyone know about this problem?
[05:38] <tenemag_> ok lemme look
[05:38] <bazhang> urg
[05:38] <Slart> tenemag_: in the "utilities" section
[05:38] <tenemag_> ah got it back :-D thanks guys
[05:38] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: astro76 bazhang I just did that, and it's still saying I appear to be running an X server when I sh
[05:38] <tenemag_> that had me confused because i thought only pidgin dissapeared lol
[05:38] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: reboot, when you see GRUB press esc right away, pich the second line of the menu that appears..
[05:38] <detedagowa> my nautilus shut down how do i get ti back up
[05:38] <elias> Do i need a special monitor driver for my acer laptop "wide screen monitor" ?
[05:39] <zcat[1]> *pick
[05:39] <kenby> q_a_z_steve:sudo gedit /etc/inittab
[05:39] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : ah crap I missed this earlier... ok, come back in the directory you were before (use "cd .." if you are stil in the bin or use the first cd command you used earlier)
[05:39] <Slart> elias: nope... or at least I didn't
[05:39] <Slart> elias: what model?
[05:39] <zcat[1]> kenby: you sure you want him to do that..?
[05:39] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: pick which menu?
[05:39] <elias> acer 7720g
[05:39] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : then try this : "./secondlife" and pray (or immolate a virgin or whatever you want)
[05:40] <Slart> elias: ok.. not the same as mine.. well well.. did the live cd work alright?
[05:40] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: when you press escape you should get a menu, first line is normal boot, second is rescue mode, possibly some more options, memtest will be the last option..
[05:40] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  well, thats worked
[05:40] <q_a_z_steve> I have a boot: prompt
[05:40] <wibou> :)
[05:40] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  cool, thanks!
[05:41] <zcat[1]> that's for just after you reboot, you'll see GRUB and have about three seconds to press ESC for the menu
[05:41] <elias> Slart: i have it installed on the hard drive
[05:41] <FyRe> #28
[05:41] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : no problem... good luck thought, this is alpha stuff
[05:41] <Slart> elias: and it's not working?
[05:41] <zcat[1]> Boot prompt? cool.. type 'linux 1'
[05:41] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: I'm sitting at a boot menu, is that what you want[05:41] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  crap, i tryed logging in it just shut down the program...
[05:41] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  this is homosexual...
[05:41] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: apparently you're using LILO.. weird!
[05:42] <elias> Slart: I cant change the resolution without black screen
[05:42] <q_a_z_steve> could not find kernel image: linux. that's crazy I'm not using lilo, it's a persistent gutsy USB install
[05:42] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: I exited the GUI boot
[05:42] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : hehehe... well make sure you have the correct version of library. Especially openGL stuff... what's your video card?
[05:42] <Slart> elias: hmm.. and you're stuck in.. say 640x480 or something like that? what graphics card do you have?
[05:43] <elias> Slart: Mobility Radeon HD 2600
[05:43] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ok, I'm stumped :)
[05:43] <cycom> Has anyone managed to get their Toshiba (phoenix bios) fn keys and multimedia keys working again?  They died after 7.04...
[05:43] <Slart> !ati | elias
[05:43] <ubotu> elias: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:43] <Psyco_Chipmunk> wibou,  well, it worked for me when i had windows
[05:43] <Slart> elias: have you tried the stuff in that link from ubotu?
[05:44] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: rebooted again, I have Start... persistent; start live; start safe graphics; install driver update CD...
[05:44] <wibou> Psyco_Chipmunk : that doesnt mean much... good graphic drivers are quite rare in linux. Nvidia are usually quite good, ati are getting better (getting better, they still suck atmo), intel is still a total mess
[05:44] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: out of my depth sorry.. never delt with that kind of install :(
[05:45] <q_a_z_steve> can I send a boot option/cheatcode???
[05:45] <elias> Slart: I used the synaptic packet intaller to download and install the "radeonhd" xorg driver but it don't work, it uses VESA now =(
[05:45] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: probably, but I don't know how..
[05:45] <Slart> elias: did you try the "restricted driver" thingy?
[05:45] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: 'tab' at the boot: prompt shows anything?
[05:45] <netlarlinux> bazhang, i was able to format the disk, but now I am getting an error when trying to mount that drive
[05:46] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what error?
[05:46] <netlarlinux> "Failed to determine the mount point for /dev/sdb"
[05:46] <elias> Slart: No is it better then the "radeonhd" driver ?
[05:47] <Slart> elias: I don't know.. I have a nvidia myself .. but I think the restricted driver manager is the recommended way
[05:47] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: If I understand what you're asking, no
[05:47] <netlarlinux> I can see the drive in Gparted bazhang
[05:47] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: this is the livecd? or the alternatecd?
[05:47] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: weird.. so I guess it's not grub, not lilo.. I dunno what other bootmanager it could be..
[05:48] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: liveCD
[05:48] <ottothecow> anyone know how I can commit a chmod change to subversion?
[05:48] <lost`> Looking for someone who knows about Wine or runs any HL2 based Steam games on wine or any other emulator.  Trying to get HL2 based games to run a lot better.
[05:48] <Slart> lost`: try asking in #winehq
[05:48] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what did you format it as? ext3?
[05:48] <netlarlinux> ext2
[05:48] <elias> Slart: I was confused by the system (ubuntu) telling ME it don not NEED any proprietary ?
[05:49] <netlarlinux> ext2 bazhang
[05:49] <ottothecow> nm...I guess I need to set the executable prop if I edit a file outside of *nix
[05:49] <netlarlinux> should it be ext3 bazhang?
[05:49] <bazhang> netlarlinux: any reason for that as opposed to ext3?
[05:49] <netlarlinux> no
[05:49] <Slart> elias: oh.. it tells you that.. well..as I said.. I'm not familiar with ati cards and their drivers... perhaps someone else knows
[05:49] <netlarlinux> should I just refortmat to ext3 bazhang?
[05:50] <bazhang> netlarlinux: you can now see the hdd drive on your desktop area?
[05:50] <netlarlinux> always could
[05:50] <netlarlinux> but now i cannot mount it bazhang
[05:50] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] boot: live 1
[05:50] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what does right clicking on it reveal?
[05:51] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: zcat[1] or should I do 3 or something?
[05:51] <netlarlinux> Open, Mount, bazhang
[05:51] <feihung> newbie again, I typed mount and it shows procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:51] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: ahh, so it is lilo.. now you just need to figure out what runlevel is no-gui
[05:51] <zcat[1]> q_a_z_steve: typically 1, possibly 3 I guess
[05:51] <bazhang> netlarlinux: and the mount command says no label? or no mount point? sorry got distracted for a moment
[05:51] <netlarlinux> No mount point bazhang
[05:51] <q_a_z_steve> umm 1 didn't do anything different, just errors when I got into gnome
[05:52] <feihung> newbie again, I typed mount and it shows procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) how can I access this usb disk ? thanks
[05:52] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what does fdisk -l say?
[05:53] <wibou> feihung : this is NOT your usb disk
[05:53] <netlarlinux> seems similar to the boot disk bazhang
[05:53] <netlarlinux> System is Linux , bazhang
[05:53] <feihung> wibou is that command means something to you
[05:53] <Shadow_X_> im trying to boot from the livecd
[05:53] <wibou> feihung : this is an interface to your USB bus... kernel stuff, nothing to do with your disk
[05:54] <wibou> feihung : you mean mount?
[05:54] <ObNockShus> hello.
[05:54] <Shadow_X_> it says "cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs)
[05:54] <wolferine> anyone have issues with DCC receives on xchat ?
[05:54] <Shadow_X_> ?
[05:54] <bazhang> netlarlinux: what about just detaching and re-attaching it? what does that do? assuming you have quit gparted of course :}
[05:54] <wibou> wolferine : yup. it's a long know "bug" I think
[05:54] <Evolution2> hey guys, can someone help me with a hard drive mounting problem. it tells me that I have to force it to mount but that doesn't work either. any ideas?
[05:54] <netlarlinux> Detaching it? how do i do that bazhang
[05:55] <wolferine> wibou, any thing to correct it ?
[05:55] <ObNockShus> I'm having trouble setting myself as "root" in ubuntu. Can anyone help?
[05:55] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: bazhang that's not changing anything either, live 3, why doesn't killall work for this??? so confused
[05:55] <wibou> wolferine : a security feature is going crazy when you receive too many DCC send as it seems...
[05:55] <feihung> ok thanks wibou I am trying to mount my external harddisk from vmware server and it's not mounted
[05:55] <wolferine> wibou, that doesnt sound like my scenario
[05:55] <Slart> ObNockShus: eh..explain a little more, please.. what are you trying to do?
[05:55] <bazhang> !root | ObNockShus
[05:55] <ubotu> ObNockShus: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:55] <matrix> ji
[05:55] <wibou> wolferine : well, if it's the bug I am thinking about... unless they released a patch or that you want to edit their code, not much
[05:55] <Slart> ObNockShus: you know about sudo, right=
[05:56] <wibou> wolferine : oh... then forget about it :)
[05:56] <wolferine> Evolution2, posting the exact error may help someone to troubleshoot with u
[05:56] <Shadow_X_> im trying to boot the livecd, it says "/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs)   wtf?
[05:56] <ObNockShus> sudo sets it?
[05:56] <wolferine> wibou, so nothing to repair it, that u know of ?
[05:56] <Evolution2> wolferine: come again?
[05:56] <wibou> wolferine : well, what's your bug exactly?
[05:56] <Slart> !who | ObNockShus
[05:56] <ubotu> ObNockShus: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:56] <bazhang> ObNockShus: did you read that link? :}
[05:57] <wolferine> wibou, i cannot receive anymore, but I was able to in the past ( via DCC)
[05:57] <q_a_z_steve> zcat[1]: bazhang you know what, I don't really care about the driver, I know this much: nvidia-glx worked for me in 7.04 live, but glx-new doesn't work with 7.10, therefore, I'm trying to get around the restricted driver stuff.
[05:57] <wibou> feihung : hmmm... unplug the drive, then plug it back then and type "dmesg" in a terminal. Paste me the last, say, twenty line on pastebin
[05:57] <ObNockShus>  ubotu. so if I try to log in as root with no password I'll get root?
[05:57] <adrian__> I have one Q: is there any way to eject a CD in the terminal?
[05:57] <wolferine> !pastebin | feihung
[05:57] <PurpZeY> !root | ObNockShus
[05:57] <ubotu> feihung: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:57] <ubotu> ObNockShus: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:58] <wibou> wolferine : hummmm weird. Well eeeh I don't know :(
[05:58] <bazhang> ObNockShus: reading links is your friend :}
[05:58] <Slart> ObNockShus: ubotu is a bot.. read the link about sudo. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:58] <wolferine> wibou, np :) thanks though
[05:58] <ObNockShus> ubuto, that will help alot. Thanks
[05:59] <wolferine> ObNockShus, your talking to a bot, not a person :)
[05:59] <bazhang> he is a bot ObNockShus
[05:59] <wolferine> ;)
[05:59] <adrian__> HELP is there any way to eject a CD by useing a terminal command?
[05:59] <ObNockShus> rofl@me
[05:59] <nickrud> it, bazhang it
[05:59] <wibou> adrian__: try "eject" ??
[05:59] <blkorpheus> anyone know system requirements for fluxbuntu or geubuntu?
[05:59] <conorkirk> I have Ubuntu installed on an iMac, and I can't type anymore... any time I type, no text comes up, but things pop up as if I typed a shortcut key...
[05:59] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: I don't really care about the driver, I know this much: nvidia-glx worked for me in 7.04 live, but glx-new doesn't work with 7.10, therefore, I'm trying to get around the restricted driver stuff.
[05:59] <Slart> adrian__: you tried "eject".. of course
[05:59] <bazhang> nickrud: hahaha not sentient yet?
[05:59] <wolferine> lol @ wibou
[05:59] <Evolution2> wolferine: any ideas?
[05:59] <ObNockShus> is it a "he" bot or a "she" bot?  hehehe
[05:59] <nickrud> bazhang, who says an it can't be sentient
[05:59] <PurpZeY> ObNockShus: Pinbot
[06:00] <wolferine> Evolution2, i have many, all day long, some I keep to myself, others, I share
[06:00] <wibou> ObNockShus : depend of what you like... whenever you like, it's the opposite :P
[06:00] <wolferine> Evolution2, what about you, ever have any ideas ?
[06:00] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: the alternate cd has a driver installer feature in it; though it is ncurses-based so no cute graphical installer
[06:00] <Metalcore> Can anyone help me wth JACK here?
[06:00] <bazhang> nickrud: good point :}
[06:00] <ObNockShus> lol. tx wibou
[06:00] <wibou> ObNockShus : Nb : flirting with bot usually mean you need help :P
[06:00] <PurpZeY> Metalcore: I don't know JACK
[06:00] <conorkirk> I have Ubuntu installed on an iMac, and I can't type anymore... any time I type, no text comes up, but things pop up as if I typed a shortcut key...
[06:00] <rhinovirus> my games arent recognizing my video card, any ideas?
[06:00] <PurpZeY> rhinovirus: Turn off compiz first.
[06:01] <Evolution2> wolferine: I do but I am not good at this stuff. I am more of a KDE person. I am getting used to gnome now
[06:01] <Evolution2> or trying to
[06:01] <bazhang> rhinovirus: what games?
[06:01] <nickrud> PurpZeY, you stole my line ;(
[06:01] <rhinovirus> compiz?
[06:01] <opengl> Hello, I dont have alot of hard drive space for windows xp so I used Partition Magic and took 5 gb from a local disk that says linux ext3. Then when I restart my computer I get error 22 and windows or linux wont load, becuase grub is not there to load any. How to get more space for windows than without this happening.
[06:01] <PurpZeY> rhinovirus: 3d effects
[06:01] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: how hard would it be to tweak pendrivelinux instructions to install to USB?
[06:01] <Slart> rhinovirus: I don't think games on linux recognize your video cards.. I might be wrong though.. what game? any error messages?
[06:01] <wolferine> Evolution2, good to hear, I like Gnome, I have no ideas about KDE for you, sorry
[06:01] <rhinovirus> eve-online for one
[06:01] <adrian__> adrian@adrian-laptop:/cdrom$ eject
[06:01] <adrian__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:01] <adrian__> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:01] <adrian__> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[06:01] <PurpZeY> !paste | adrian__
[06:01] <ubotu> adrian__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <briantumor> is it safe to unmount /home while it's in use?
[06:02] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: not that bad; I've done it and I'm a relative newb
[06:02] <wibou> briantumor : eeeh NO it's not ?
[06:02] <wolferine> adrian__, sudo umount /media/cdrom0
[06:02] <bazhang> briantumor: no!
[06:02] <ObNockShus> wibou... I was a windows user from 1995 until 2 weeks ago. Obviously I need serious mental help.
[06:02] <briantumor> why not?
[06:02] <adrian__> thanks wolferine
[06:02] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: ok, thanks. I'll try that tomorrow.
[06:02] <briantumor>  / is still active
[06:02] <Slart> adrian__: first.. don't paste more than one line or so.. second.. something is using that cd-rom.. that's why you can't eject it.. got anything running from the cd?
[06:02] <nickrud> opengl, bummer, you should go to ##windows , have them get your windows booting as is, then consider what to do with the disk space
[06:02] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve: no worries
[06:02] <huff3r> flash dosen't work for me in Opera when using liuxmint, i need to check my ubuntu machine, when i'm sober
[06:02] <wibou> ObNockShus : iiiiiissh yes you do
[06:02] <Evolution2> wolferine: I am on gnome right now. I just want my external to be mounted but I run into this problem. could you look at it if I pastebin the errr?
[06:03] <adrian__> slart no i have not
[06:03] <wolferine> external HD ?
[06:03] <bazhang> huff3r: ask in the linuxmint channel and get some rest first :}
[06:03] <ObNockShus> wibou, hence all my idiotic linux/ubuntu questions
[06:03] <wolferine> Evolution2, external HD ?
[06:03] <Slart> adrian__: try this "lsof | grep -i /media/cdrom".. did you get any output?
[06:04] <wibou> ObNockShus : It's ok as long you don't flirt with the bot :)
[06:04] <Slart> ObNockShus: everyone has to start somewhere.. we've all been there
[06:04] <nickrud> briantumor, you shouldn't unmount /home while you're logged in as a regular user. If you plan on doing some maintenance on that partition, you should boot into recovery mode
[06:04] <wolferine> adrian__, save us all the time, just logout, log back in again
[06:04] <bazhang> haha flirt with the bot
[06:04] <briantumor> oh
[06:04] <Evolution2> wolferine: yes
[06:04] <briantumor> alright, thanks
[06:04] <adrian__> ok
[06:04] <wolferine> Evolution2, then no, I cannot help you
[06:04] <ObNockShus> wibou... But I like bots. They are somewhat predictable
[06:05] <ObNockShus> hehehe
[06:05] <wolferine> unlike a woman
[06:05] <chuy_max> hi, is there a way to monitor gpu activity?
[06:05] <bazhang> ObNockShus: join #ubuntu-trivia if you like bots :}
[06:05] <wibou> hummm smelling turing test
[06:05] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4 and its (large) contents?
[06:05] <wibou> bullgard4 : it's your kernel/kernel-header
[06:05] <ObNockShus> wolferine- I like the way you think. lol
[06:05] <wolferine> bullgard4, is the source of the kernel
[06:06] <nickrud> bullgard4, that's the source for your kernel
[06:06] <Slart> bullgard4: sources.. you use those when you compile stuff for your kernel.. drivers and such
[06:06] <wolferine> nickrud, not just his kernel :P
[06:06] <nickrud> bullgard4, doc/ is some interesting reading
[06:06] <CentHOGG> <beatles abbey road
[06:06] <nickrud> wolferine, what else?
[06:06] <wolferine> nickrud, anyone else who uses that box :P
[06:06] <wibou> bullgard4 : you better keep it. You can sometime live without the source (as long you have an image) but it's a bit complex and it end in a mess more often then not
[06:07]  * nickrud pulls the hook from his mouth
[06:07] <wolferine> lol
[06:08] <wolferine> i was about to send u to #offtopic :P
[06:08] <bullgard4> wibou: I do not understand: I thought that the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 contains my kernel's source code. Hwsat?
[06:08] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:09]  * cyphase wonders how long it will be until AI is sufficient to make hardware drivers obsolete :P
[06:09] <bullgard4> wolferine: I do not understand: I thought that the directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 contains my kernel's source code. Hwsat?
[06:10] <wolferine> bullgard4, read above
[06:10] <wibou> bullgard4 : one are the header files, one is the actual kernel source. The header is really important. The source a bit less but I don't think it's a good idea for you to remove it
[06:10] <Slart> bullgard4: imho you won't be needing the kernel source code a lot.. the headers though.. those get used once in a while and they aren't that large
[06:10] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:10] <wolferine> wibou, i dont think he mentioned anything about removing it...
[06:10] <wolferine> assuming worse case scenerios ?
[06:10] <cyphase> tuntun: wait a little while between posts
[06:11] <nickrud> bullgard4, you can remove that unpacked dir, no problem. You should still have a tar of it in that dir, anyway. Unless you plan on compiling a kernel, it's extraneous
[06:11] <Slart> you can just download the kernel source if you need it, right?
[06:11] <cyphase> tuntun: i know it can be frustrating :)
[06:11] <rainwalker> I convinced my friend to try linux, but he doesn't have any cds...is there any way to use an .iso without a cd?
[06:11] <hiro_> join #kuri
[06:11] <|ns|nR8> no easy way rainwalker
[06:11] <Slart> rainwalker: not to boot from... you might be able to use it in a vm perhaps
[06:11] <wibou> wolferine : well, when someone is asking about a the usefulness of a "large directory", they are usually just about to delete it, trust my long experience on the matter :)
[06:11] <cyphase> rainwalker: a VM
[06:11] <tuntun> rainwalker: no there IS
[06:11] <rainwalker> haha good luck explaining a vm to my friend
[06:11] <nickrud> !install | rainwalker (I think you'll find away there)
[06:11] <ubotu> rainwalker (I think you'll find away there): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:12] <wolferine> 'worse case scenario' worrier :P
[06:12] <cyphase> rainwalker: that last link :)
[06:12]  * rainwalker clicks
[06:12] <rainwalker> hm...
[06:12] <wibou> wolferine : hehe maybe
[06:12] <rainwalker> this installs it? what if he just wants to try it, like if he had a live cd?
[06:12] <wolferine> k, time to hit the hay
[06:12] <Slart> that link was pretty neat.. never thought about that..
[06:13] <wolferine> nite ppl
[06:13] <tuntun> rainwalker: is was just canvasing that question a few days ago. Its a bit fiddly though, messing with GRUB
[06:13] <cyphase> rainwalker: a VM isn't to hard if you walk him through it
[06:13] <rainwalker> ug
[06:13] <_MattB> does anyone know if mdadm can convert a raid5 array to raid6 without losing data?
[06:13] <cyphase> rainwalker: it doesn't ave to be VMWare Enterprise :)
[06:13] <Slart> rainwalker: burn a cd and give to the guy.. in theory he could do lots of weird stuff to make it work.. but I doubt it would be worth it
[06:13] <rainwalker> it was hard enough walking him through choosing Ubuntu vs. Mint
[06:13] <cyphase> have*
[06:13] <nickrud> rainwalker,  do it, he'll love you once he's seen a vm
[06:14] <zero88> VirtualBox
[06:14] <zero88> best VM
[06:14] <rainwalker> he doesn't care enough to go through the effort of setting up a vm
[06:14] <rainwalker> he's on a mac
[06:14] <Xecuter> hi! quick question: what is the "Screens and Graphics" program called? i need to install it but i don't know its name (other that Screens and Graphics)...
[06:14] <cafuego> Parallels runs Ubuntu very nicely, thankyou.
[06:14] <wibou> Hmmm reboot to test my new (and probably not working) kernel. See ya later, people.
[06:15] <Slart> Xecuter: the menu launches "gksu displayconfig-gtk"
[06:15] <rainwalker> cafuego is parallels installed on leopard?
[06:15] <cyphase> wibou: i'll pray for you ;)
[06:15] <kewlguy2> is there known problem with geforce8800 and 7.10
[06:15] <Xecuter> Slart, thanks alot! :D
[06:15] <cafuego> rainwalker: No, it's non-free
[06:15] <rainwalker> arg
[06:16] <Slart> Xecuter: you're welcome
[06:16] <cafuego> rainwalker: *however* vmware evaluation version runs fine on Loepard
[06:16] <cyphase> rainwalker: VirtualBox is free
[06:16] <sparkfire946> 2 quick questions, first one, if i am using a metacity gnome theme, would it go "bye bye" if i installed compiz for the desktop cube?
[06:16] <sparkfire946> and also, can i even do that on ATI hardware
[06:16] <cafuego> and VirtualBox runs on Mac OS X?
[06:16] <Slart> kewlguy2: I use it.. why do you ask?
[06:16] <bullgard4> wolferine: I am still confused. You say "/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4 is the kernel". But what is /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 then?
[06:16] <gadis> hi
[06:16] <cyphase> sparkfire946: yes, and, on some cards
[06:17] <kewlguy2> Slart: black screen when installing, so i installed via the safe graphic option, but am trying to figure how to update the drive that i download from www.nvidia.com
[06:17] <sparkfire946> i know this card uses that ATI Fglrx driver...
[06:17] <Slart> bullgard4: I think one of them is the kernel-headers.. the other one is the actual source.. I might be confused though. it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet
[06:17] <kewlguy2> Slart: or should i try envy? are they relible?
[06:17] <Slart> !envy
[06:17] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:17] <nickrud> sparkfire946 if you install xserver-xgl and restart, you should get compiz
[06:17] <sparkfire946> aight...
[06:17] <nickrud> Slart, is there a method to turn the nvidia driver into debs?
[06:17] <woot2> ?
[06:18] <tuntun> rainwalker: is was just canvasing that question a few days ago. Its a bit fiddly though, messing with GRUB
[06:18] <tuntun> forget that^^
[06:18] <rainwalker> tuntun what?
[06:18] <sparkfire946> nickrud: so just install xserver-xgl and reboot? simple as that?
[06:18] <rainwalker> ok
[06:18] <Slart> kewlguy2: the driver from nvidia has the fan's working 100% all the time.. you can set it using nvclock but you have to do it manually.. I had the black screen thing on feisty.. I had to remove the splash screen in grub.. add nosplash to kernel line
[06:18] <tuntun> isn't the Deskbar Applet supposed to be like launchy? why do i need to select an action and then press enter after typing to search?
[06:18] <netlarlinux> bazhang you still there?
[06:18] <nickrud> sparkfire946, if fglrx shows you're using the ati drivers and not mesa, install and log out and back in. No reboot necessary
[06:19] <Slart> nickrud: well.. there are debs for the nvidia drivers so I guess I'd have to say "apparently" =)
[06:19] <sky_> has anyone here tried ubuntu on a PS3?
[06:19] <sparkfire946> oo nice, so just ctrl-alt backspace x2 and it should work? lol
[06:19] <rainwalker> I'm guessing he can't just put the .iso on a memory stick and boot from that?
[06:19] <nickrud> Slart, ah, so why does envy even exist :)
[06:19] <root_> haha
[06:19] <root_> hey u guys
[06:19] <netlarlinux> I can mount the drive now, but only root is the owner, and I cannot access it with my user, bazhang
[06:19] <bazhang> netlarlinux: yup
[06:19] <root_> what the ..
[06:19] <root_> i cant chaged anymore
[06:19] <bazhang> netlarlinux: then you need to change permissions
[06:19] <root_> what the hell was that ?
[06:19] <nickrud> Slart, I was thinking latest nvidia, ati provides a way to make debs from their installer ...
[06:19] <root_> oh my god
[06:19] <Slart> nickrud: I don't know really.. people don't want to mess with the xorg configuration files I suppose
[06:20] <netlarlinux> Just like I would any directory , bazhang?
[06:20] <root_> hey u guys got to public home server??
[06:20] <Slart> nickrud: ah.. no.. afaik they only distribute their little binary installer
[06:20] <the7thmagus> @nickrud: envy is supposedly an easy GUI way to do things. I've heard some horror stories though
[06:20] <tuntun> whats the closest thing to launchy for linux?
[06:20] <root_> i want 2 make sure home server
[06:20] <nickrud> the7thmagus, I also, I don't trust things that willy nilly scatter files around /usr
[06:20] <root_> hey u guys how to know google web service ?
[06:21] <root_> what the fuck ...
[06:21] <bazhang> root_: stop it
[06:21] <Slart> bye bye root_
[06:21] <rainwalker> anyone here running gutsy and not have a logoff sound?
[06:21] <nickrud> root_, just what is it you want to know?
[06:21] <troubled> root_: language!
[06:21] <root_> what asshole
[06:21] <bazhang> !ops | root_
[06:21] <ubotu> root_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[06:21] <root_> shut up all people
[06:21]  * nickrud has slow fingers again
[06:21] <the7thmagus> root_: what do you want? you have been saying random things
[06:21] <root_> i cant hear urs fucking shit
[06:22] <bazhang> phew
[06:22]  * tuntun says /kick root_
[06:22] <troubled> nixternal: they always get tuff when they have a proxy it seems....
[06:22] <woot2> root_ drank too much
[06:22] <|ns|nR8> im guessing thats sum kinda silence ban
[06:22] <tuntun> whats the closest thing to launchy for linux?
[06:22] <Nostahl> hi all is there anything special i need to do before i switch my graphics card to a different one
[06:22] <nixternal> tuntun: gnome do
[06:22] <Slart> tuntun: if you tell us what launchy is we might be able to help you
[06:23] <rainwalker> Slart it's a lancher
[06:23] <nickrud> Nostahl, what card are you installing?
[06:23] <tuntun> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchy
[06:23] <rainwalker> launcher*
[06:23] <nixternal> tuntun: if you use Ubuntu then Gnome Do (it is in the PPAs) and if you use Kubuntu then use Katapult
[06:23]  * Slart sees the light
[06:23] <Nostahl> nickrud im going from my ati allinwonder 9600xt to a nvidia geforce fx 5200
[06:24] <fotoflo> oh this ssl problem is killing me
[06:24] <Slart> tuntun: I use alt+f2.. it's not fancy but it works
[06:24] <tuntun> i was pretty sure that deskbar applet was a launcher, but it odesn't seem to search-as-you-type
[06:24] <fotoflo> 20 seconds on every save
[06:24] <nickrud> Nostahl, install the card, boot into recovery mode, run   dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg,   then  run  telinit 2  , you should have the default video for the 5200
[06:24] <Nostahl> nickrud i just uninstalled the restricted driver i was using for the ati card
[06:24] <normanm> hi
[06:24] <Slart> hello normanm
[06:24] <Nostahl> can you message that to me nickrud
[06:24] <Nostahl> so it dosnt go away
[06:24] <nickrud> Nostahl, sure
[06:24] <Nostahl> ty
[06:24] <normanm> Is there any sources entry which can provide my support for php4 in gutsy ?
[06:25] <root_> fuck u nostlhl
[06:25] <nixternal> wow
[06:25] <root_> fuck u all
[06:25] <Slart> oh.. he's back
[06:25] <rainwalker> can someone explain to me what pulseaudio is?
[06:25] <the7thmagus> omfg
[06:25] <nixternal> hehe
[06:25] <Slart> like opening a really old can of tuna. =)
[06:25] <nixternal> had to try him out
[06:25] <nickrud> nixternal, you are too kind :)
[06:25] <the7thmagus> pulse audio, is an audio proxy
[06:25] <nixternal> hahahahha
[06:25] <looknow> tutun: try Katapult
[06:25] <nixternal> something tells me he was rather bottish concidering how fast after the -b he started
[06:25] <rainwalker> the7thmagus: audio proxy?
[06:26] <rainwalker> nixternal or maybe he never stopped cussing...
[06:26] <nixternal> lol
[06:26] <normanm> if there is no way to use support php4 without recompile it by my own I will probally switch to freebsd on this servers
[06:26] <nixternal> just kept going not realizing he was +b'd
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !info php4
[06:26] <ubotu> Package php4 does not exist in gutsy
[06:26] <Slart> rainwalker: it makes it easier to make sounds come out where you want them to come out.. with ribbons and stripes on the sides =)
[06:26] <the7thmagus> rainwalker: not sure about the details. supposedly, its useful for if you have a lot of audio tasks. it's like a middle man that shuttles sound
[06:26] <Slart> !pulse
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pulse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <kewlguy2> Slart: im going to unrestrict the driver and see what happen, i hope it will not crash
[06:27] <rainwalker> weird...
[06:27] <ljsmithx> Hello again guys!
[06:27] <Slart> kewlguy2: good luck =)
[06:27] <nixternal> wo0t it is level1
[06:28] <rainwalker> well the reason I ask is because someone on the forums said installing some esound and pulseaudio packages fixed a problem he had (no logout sound) that I have too
[06:28] <ljsmithx> I just got that fingerprint splash screen and activated it via start up manager and when I logged back in
[06:28] <level1> nixternal: I didn't know I was so loved
[06:28] <ljsmithx> my desktop icons are missing
[06:28] <ljsmithx> :(
[06:28] <tuntun> nixternal: PPA's=?. i searched add/remove for "launcher" and katapult came up, but not gnome do
[06:28] <nixternal> level1: I love all! :) especially those in chicago
[06:28] <nixternal> tuntun: are you using edgy?
[06:28] <jiggadavs> If someone is willing to help me dual boot vista + ubuntu (w/ vista already installed), I would really appreciate it.  I was able to partition my drive 5 months ago and install ubuntu, but approx. 3 days later my motherboard crashed and I just went ahead and reinstalled vista by itself again.
[06:28] <rainwalker> I don't think gnome do is in the repos
[06:28] <lazy247x> help
[06:28] <jiggadavs> I think the problem im having is that i have a dell xps 1710 with mediadirect
[06:29] <nixternal> tuntun: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GnomeDo
[06:29] <tuntun> nixternal: guty
[06:29] <level1> nixternal: I've been wanting to come to a LUG meeting, but I'm not in chicago very much anymore; also, its a little out of my way
[06:29] <Slart> tuntun: did you try the alt+f2 thingy?
[06:29] <nixternal> ya, I meant gutsy
[06:29] <ljsmithx> ANyone? how do I reload my desktop icons?
[06:29] <kewlguy2> Slart: its in low res... 640x840 is that normal?
[06:29] <tuntun> ^^guty, lol
[06:29] <lazy247x> I tried to install a program but its telling me i need GTK2+ runtimes but I install Gtk2 dev .. dont know what to do?
[06:29] <sigra> anyone familiar with cedega?
[06:29] <the7thmagus> lksmithx: did you restart X window?
[06:30] <ljsmithx> how do I do that?
[06:30] <Slart> kewlguy2: well.. normal is a big word.. can you change the resolution? there is sometihng in system, preferences I think
[06:30] <the7thmagus> alt-backspace
[06:30] <ljsmithx> hmm
[06:30] <ljsmithx> ok brb
[06:30] <kewlguy2> Slart: its only limited to that choice :(
[06:30] <ljsmithx> umm
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: what are you trying to install
[06:30] <kewlguy2> with refresh rate of 50-54 hz
[06:30] <ljsmithx> that has no effect
[06:30]  * nickrud thinks alt-backspace without warning it wll close all apps abruptly is kinda cruel
[06:31] <lazy247x> program call xfprot
[06:31] <ljsmithx> I press and hold alt-backspace and nothing happens
[06:31] <the7thmagus> sorry. I think it was ctrl-backspace. but beware
[06:31] <sigra> i have my wow directory in cedega transgaming_drive directory and the directory is locked and i cannot get my program out so i can dump the software..any ideals?
[06:31] <the7thmagus> it will quit all your apps
[06:31] <ljsmithx> ..
[06:31] <nickrud> ljsmithx, ctl-alt-backspace, and it will kill any open apps and lose data
[06:31] <ljsmithx> thats ok
[06:31] <ljsmithx> brb
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !info xfprot
[06:31] <ubotu> Package xfprot does not exist in gutsy
[06:31] <rkj> hey anybody, any advice on what to do if software installed by Synaptic Package Manager doesn't work? e.g., like someone who should be notified?
[06:31] <lazy247x> i know i downloaded it
[06:32] <lazy247x> i think the problem is that i need KDE ?? -- maybe I dont know?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Where are you getting it and is it packaged for Ubuntu and is it a deb?
[06:32] <lazy247x> no its a tar.gz
[06:32] <ljsmithx> hmm
[06:32] <ljsmithx> they arn't there
[06:32] <ljsmithx> :(
[06:33] <ljsmithx> it went all black then I had to log back in
[06:33] <Slart> kewlguy2: hmm.. then somethings not right.. hang on
[06:33] <tuntun> Slart: alt+f2: im really after search-as-you-type, if you have ever used launchy you would know how nice and simple it is :)
[06:33] <lazy247x> http://www.goitexpert.com/entry.cfm?entry=FProt-AntiVirus-on-LinuxUBUNTU
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, that's how it works.  Try alt-f2 nautilus
[06:33] <ljsmithx> ok...
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, um, do you see the panels ?
[06:33] <ljsmithx> like the menus and things?
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Are you trying to scan windows files for viruses?
[06:33] <lazy247x> no
[06:33] <nickrud> ljsmithx, yes, exactly
[06:34] <Slart> tuntun: well.. you know what you want.. although if I press alt+f2 it searches as I type..
[06:34] <ljsmithx> ok then ye
[06:34] <ljsmithx> s
[06:34] <lazy247x> i can scan fine.. but wanted the GUI
[06:34] <ljsmithx> I'll do alt-f2
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Are you afraind of viruses in linux?
[06:34] <kewlguy2> Slart: what is your gfx card exactly? 8800GTS 640?
[06:34] <lazy247x> no
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> afraid
[06:34] <lazy247x> afraid of mail viruses
[06:34] <Slart> kewlguy2: nope.. 8800gtx
[06:34] <AhLiFiQiR> hello
[06:34] <kewlguy2> ah... hmmmmm
[06:35] <lazy247x> but still why cant I run it.. its bugging me
[06:35] <tuntun> Slart: ahh, so it does... but not a wide search...
[06:35] <samuel> tja
[06:35] <AhLiFiQiR> how can i change the ident for ubuntu xchat?
[06:35] <samuel> tja
[06:35] <samuel> ngn här?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: But you understand there is no need for antivirus in Linux/ubuntu
[06:35] <ljsmithx> :'(
[06:35] <Slart> tuntun: "wide search" ??
[06:35] <Slart> !english | samuel
[06:35] <ubotu> samuel: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:35] <ljsmithx> that doesn't work either
[06:35] <nickrud> AhLiFiQiR, click your nick next to the text box you enter text in
[06:35] <samuel> oh sorry
[06:35] <tuntun> AhLiFiQiR: drag the grey line?
[06:35] <Slart> !swedish | samuel
[06:35] <ubotu> samuel: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:35] <lazy247x> I know ..
[06:35] <the7thmagus> ljsmithx: you don't see any icons when you navigate to "Desktop" in nautilus?
[06:35] <tuntun> AhLiFiQiR: i thought it said "indent"...
[06:35] <samuel> how can i play cs without lag on ubuntu?
[06:36] <level1> nixternal: I'm managed to mount ~/.kde on a ramdisk.  If someone else wants to do the same thing, I could write a instruction manual... where can I put the instructions so that other people can find them?
[06:36] <bigbruno> hi everybody
[06:36] <samuel> hi
[06:36] <lazy247x> but my main point is that I cant run the program?
[06:36] <xange> whenever I try and run Planner in X I get an error - "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error" - I created a new user and it I don't get the error for the new user? How can I resolve the issue for my current user?
[06:36] <ljsmithx> I have a wallpaper but no icons... when I goto Places>Desktop nothing happens :(
[06:36] <lazy247x> because of GTK runtimes
[06:36] <santri> ipunk
[06:36] <Slart> kewlguy2: that might be it.. I don't know if the ubuntu driver has support for the gts cards yet
[06:36] <nixternal> level1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community  <-- make a page on there
[06:36] <kewlguy2> Slart: should i try the nvidia beta driver?
[06:36] <ljsmithx> I can't even right click
[06:36] <loodjuret> good morning
[06:36] <tuntun> Slart: "wide search"...booo=bookmarks,applications,indexed files etc.
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: It is best to stay in the official repos expecially if you are new to linux
[06:37] <LuYu> is there some way to reset the usb system when it locks/crashes?
[06:37] <Slart> kewlguy2: perhaps check the nvidia forums for some info.. there might be some ubuntu people there
[06:37] <Slart> tuntun: ah.. ok.. I get it.. no it doesn't
[06:37] <loodjuret> anyone here knows where to find more dictionaries for the preinstalled ubuntu/gnome dictionary? need swedish to english
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: YOu are running into a dependency problem..  to fix it you must install the required pieces that will make your package work.
[06:37] <lazy247x> I tryed jack
[06:38] <the-erm> Has anyone here ever set up 3 monitors on 2 videocards?
[06:38] <ljsmithx> some ub3r 1337 h4x0r has stolen my icons lol
[06:38] <lazy247x> I run the dev GTK installed the Lib -- but the only runtimes I can find is in win32
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: If you go outside the official repos to install the dependencies you stand a good chance of messing things up during an update or upgrade.
[06:38] <Slart> ljsmithx: try restarting nautilus.. I think it handles the icons
[06:39] <Filled-Void> Can I install fonts by copying them over to the window I get by using gksudo nautilus :fonts
[06:39] <lazy247x> thats ok.. im learning
[06:39] <ljsmithx> ok
[06:39] <ljsmithx> I'll reboot and see what happens??
[06:39] <the7thmagus> Filled-Void: yes, I think that's how I've done it before
[06:39] <lazy247x> this is the error i get.. hang on
[06:39] <Slart> ljsmithx: can you start a terminal?
[06:39] <Filled-Void> Cause when I do the above I get the error Conky: can't load font 'weather:size=42' on running conky
[06:39] <ljsmithx> yes
[06:39] <ljsmithx> I done a cd home
[06:40] <Filled-Void> thank you the7thmagus . Maybe I have to reboot. will reboot and try then
[06:40] <Slart> ljsmithx: then run "nautilus" from the terminal
[06:40] <ljsmithx> k
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lazy247x: Someone else can help you.....
[06:40] <teimu> can I used icons from the human theme in my application? (im intending to licence under GPL)
[06:40] <ljsmithx> ahhhhhhh
[06:40] <ljsmithx> (nautilus:6886): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:40] <ljsmithx> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[06:41] <Dingbat> Question:  Since upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 -- seems Java is wonky.  I can't get Azureus to work (which is Java-based) and can't use a java-based game (Tickettoride).
[06:41] <Slart> ljsmithx: the sound of a satisfied, now with icons, ubuntu user? =)
[06:41] <Dingbat> How do I fix it?
[06:41] <ljsmithx> umm no icons lol!
[06:41] <ljsmithx> But I can right click!
[06:41] <ljsmithx> and create folders
[06:41] <stdin> !away > m1ke_away
[06:41] <ljsmithx> ahhh
[06:42] <Slart> ljsmithx: you could try restarting gnome.. ctrl+alt+backspace ...it'll kill xchat though
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > ljsmithx
[06:42] <ljsmithx> I know sorry guys
[06:42] <ljsmithx> br
[06:42] <ljsmithx> b
[06:42] <rkj> who maintains the Synaptic Package Manager? I have found some problems with packages there.
[06:42] <Dingbat> Question:  Since upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 -- seems Java was somewhat clobbered.  I can't get Azureus to work (which is Java-based) and can't use a java-based game (Tickettoride).
[06:43] <Slart> rkj: why not talk to the person that maintains the packages themselves
[06:43] <ljsmithx> Its gone again :(
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Dingbat: HAve you tried reinstalling java
[06:43] <teimu> Dingbat, I had that problem too. Try downloading jdk (which will include jre) from sun.java.com and building it from source. You'll get a bin file that you have to chmod +x, then ./thatbinfile
[06:43] <Slart> ljsmithx: ok.. try a reboot then.. might be something else that's borked
[06:44] <santri_> ipunk
[06:44] <stdin> rkj: if you find a bug report it in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:44] <ljsmithx> yeah lol, I'm not that woried. If this happend on a windows system it would eb a super virus that you pay a technician $50 an hour just to fix. Thanks for your help guys! BRB Reboot
[06:45] <rkj> Slart generally how would I know that?
[06:45] <rkj> stdin do you report package installation problems ther? I'll have a look thanks
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> rjs: Is it a problem with a package or the package manager which it itself a program/app
[06:46] <Slart> rkj: isn't there a button to see info about a package? perhaps properties or something... you can use "apt-cache show packagename" in a terminal too... there's supposed to be a maintainer there with an email-address
[06:46] <stdin> rkj: yes, bugs against the app and especially against the packaging of an app
[06:47] <musikgoat> generally, how long does a dd copy take on 80GB ata-133 drive?
[06:47] <ljsmithx> OMG I FREKING LOVE YOU GUYS!
[06:47] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: depending on the system   up to 2 hours
[06:47] <ljsmithx> w00tdigity dog!
[06:48] <ljsmithx> Desktop icons FTW!
[06:48] <musikgoat> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the heads up... just didn't want to cancel it without having an idea
[06:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:48] <Slart> ljsmithx: breathe..  calm... think of puppies and green grass in the summer..
[06:48] <teimu> can I used icons from the human theme in my application? (im intending to licence under GPL)
[06:48] <ljsmithx> ahhh
[06:49] <the7thmagus> is it possible to create a link to folders on a FAT32 drive?
[06:49] <Slart> ljsmithx: can't have people climbing on the walls just because they got their icons back.. now can we? =)
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> musikgoat: The process can be sped up by increasing the size of the chunks....
[06:49] <ljsmithx> Yes!
[06:49] <ljsmithx> I'm going to set someones lawn on fire on celerbration
[06:49] <Jack_Sparrow> teimu: I think you can as along as it is open
[06:49] <ljsmithx> woot
[06:49] <Oli``> teimu: they're the tango icons aren't they?
[06:50] <teimu> Oli``, you know, I actually looked at the Tango Icons, and I couldn't find the icons that I've chosen in there. Maybe I wasn't looking at the full tango set
[06:50] <Oli``> teimu: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library
[06:50] <ljsmithx> Now that I sorta know how to fix this problem, I can help others out! And Ubuntu keeps going on!
[06:50] <teimu> thanks Oli``, ill check that out
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ljsmithx: Welcome to Ubuntu
[06:51] <ljsmithx> :)
[06:52] <Oli``> teimu: but tango is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License Agreement, so you're just bound to that, really... if that is the correct set, download the archive and look at COPYING for guidelines on how you can and can't use them
[06:52] <kewlguy2> how do i go into text only at start up.. i think i screw up the xorg settings
[06:52] <omar> Guys do you know any good software for burning CD images?
[06:53] <Oli``> omar: k3b
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> omar: right click and write to disk
[06:53] <ljsmithx> I'm sort feel weird having a working OS, maybe in the next Ubuntu release, can you make it crash and really bad? Just for the windows people to feel at home :D
[06:53] <ljsmithx> Call it, Puubuntu. Coz its crap ;)
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[06:53] <omar> Oli & Jack_Sparrow: Thanx alot! :)
[06:53] <teimu> Oli``, CC works too. thanks for all the information!
[06:53] <ljsmithx> night!
[06:53] <tuntun> ljsmithx: yeah, sure! :\
[06:53] <ljsmithx> Thanks
[06:53] <Oli``> ljsmithx: yeah I've been longing for a big fat blue-screen-of-death for a while now
[06:54] <elkbuntu> ljsmithx, we know you're happy, but please lets not get silly
[06:54] <ljsmithx> awesome
[06:54] <kewlguy2> how do i go into text only at start up.. i think i screw up the xorg settings
[06:54] <ljsmithx> Ok sorry.
[06:54] <firenx> kewlguy2, just ctrl+alt+f1 once it boots
[06:54] <firenx> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:54] <Oli``> kewlguy2: control+alt+f5 will bring you up a terminal
[06:54] <firenx> edit xorg
[06:54] <firenx> and restart it
[06:55] <firenx> er isnt there a failsafe for configuring xorg now?
[06:55] <Oli``> firenx: there's supposed to be but it never works for me =)
[06:55] <counterpoint>   hello
[06:55] <ljsmithx> hello
[06:55] <firenx> Oli``, heh ok, i kinda remember seeing it once when playing around with a bunk video card that would only work in 2d
[06:57] <Oli``> firenx: BulletproofX is the name of it... Looks great on paper/when it works
[06:57] <firenx> Oli``, cool.. oh well my hardware works so i dont have to deal with that heh
[06:57] <counterpoint>  where or how  can the pnpboios  be turn off ;----- can anyone help me
[06:58] <ljsmithx> OMG Guys. I just thought of something!
[06:58] <Oli``> Me too, it's past my bedtime
[06:59] <Oli``> counterpoint: in the bios, surely?
[06:59] <ljsmithx> I know IRC is a great community. But why doesn't Ubuntu bring out their own messaging service?!!!?1 Like MSN but better!
[06:59] <ljsmithx> Like instant messaging
[06:59] <Slart> ljsmithx: because we already have irc?
[06:59] <musikgoat> freenode is great
[07:00] <Oli``> ljsmithx: because IRC is an accepted protocol and freenode hosts almost all the open source projects that go into Ubuntu. it just makes a ton of sense to keep using it
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Yeah but for those who don't know how to use irc
[07:00] <Nasari> Pardon me, what packets would I need to run KDE?
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Ohh kay then
[07:00] <Slart> ljsmithx: they still have to learn the new instant messenger stuff.. now won't they?
[07:00] <Oli``> Nasari: kde-desktop I think
[07:00] <ljsmithx> Yeah but make it easy
[07:00] <Slart> ljsmithx: irc is hard?
[07:01] <Oli``> ljsmithx: Why not just have a simplified IRC client that automatically connects here?
[07:01] <ljsmithx> lol
[07:01] <ljsmithx> Ok
[07:01] <ottothecow> doesnt xchat do that?
[07:01] <Nostahl> pidgin auto connects here too
[07:01] <Oli``> ottothecow: yeah, think it does
[07:01] <Nasari> all I need is kde desktop?
[07:01] <Nostahl> easy to set up
[07:01] <ottothecow> I'm using it...never had to set it up
[07:01] <ljsmithx> It isnt hard for me just it may be for other people
[07:01] <Slart> Nasari: I think it will pull in the packages you need
[07:01] <Oli``> pidgin IRC blows big meaty chunks though
[07:01] <Nasari> Ah, ok, Thank you!
[07:02] <Slart> Nasari: don't thank me.. thanks apt =)
[07:02] <ljsmithx> apt is a god
[07:02] <Nostahl> some versions of puppy linux have icon's that come on the desktop when you install it that auto connect you to #puppylinux
[07:02] <musikgoat> Oli``: i think it would be better if the plugin's were added and enabled by default
[07:02] <Oli``> Nasari: yes, it's what's called a "metapackage", one which links to lots and lots of subpackages. Handy things for big things like gnome and kde
[07:03] <Nasari> Nice!!! I like that :)
[07:03] <ljsmithx> I might install KDE on this Linux Box
[07:04] <joevandyk> with internet sharing, is it possible to have all my machines be on the same network/subnet?
[07:04] <Nostahl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50682/          can someone help me figure out why glxinfo | grep direct says Direct rendering : No
[07:04] <Slart> joevandyk: yes
[07:05] <joevandyk> Slart, so if i have an ubuntu box, and it has a wireless nic, and it's also hooked up to the switch, i can get all the machines on the switch an ip on the wireless network?
[07:05] <Evolution2> can someone help me with a external hard drive problem?
[07:05] <Oli``> !ask Evolution2
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask evolution2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <Oli``> Just ask Evolution2. Just ask...
[07:06] <wols> joevandyk: yes but not with NAT, only with bridging
[07:06] <Slart> joevandyk: yes.. I haven't done that particular setup myself but I think it can be done.. without hiring an army of linux consultants =)
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Evolution2> Oli``: I get this in pastbin http://pastebin.com/d2d4911d4
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder craves sandwich right now.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  I AM SO HUNGRY! Feed the great Ed Werder!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is pretty much da coolest guy ever.
[07:06] <Slart> bye bye Ed
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Slart> !ops Ed
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops ed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is in da building, Ed Werder is in da building.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Ed Werder is pretty much da coolest guy ever.
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  I am the hungriest person in the world.
[07:06] <Nostahl> wols can you help me figure out why glxinfo | grep direct   gives me Direct Rendering : No
[07:06] <stdin> !ops | Ed_Werder
[07:06] <ubotu> Ed_Werder: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[07:06] <Ed_Werder>  Burger Box is da best place to eat for Ed Werder.
[07:06] <nixternal> jeesh, you all are keeping me busy tonight :p
[07:06] <ljsmithx> wtf...
[07:07] <Evolution2> indeed
[07:07] <joevandyk> wols, are you familar with any guides on linux ethernet bridging?  i've got a couple linksys routers acting as ethernet bridges here, guess i forgot that the ubuntu box could do the same
[07:07] <Oli``> Evolution2: NTFS needs to be removed properly otherwise you can suffer data-loss. Do as it says. Mount it in Windows, and remove it using the remove-safely tool. Then is should work,
[07:08] <wols> joevandyk: read the bridging howto
[07:08] <Evolution2> Oli``: sadly I am windows free. linux only
[07:08] <Oli``> So go with the second option it gives you =)
[07:08] <jay_> I made that mistake yesterday
[07:09] <jay_> didn't unmount an external hard drive, and no windows machines around
[07:09] <Oli``> It's a royal PITA but at least you can force your way through it if you need to
[07:10] <Nostahl> !glx
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <wols> !nvidia | Nostahl
[07:10] <ubotu> Nostahl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <irreducibilis> !myself
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <ljsmithx> Ok, what I ment before is that if Ubuntu had their own IM Client and network, it would be a good way to keep in touch with friends and other ubuntu users with the whole irc thing.
[07:10] <Evolution2> Oli``: ok here what I get with option 2 http://pastebin.com/d144c0d7
[07:11] <Gokee2> Is there a kubuntu version for 64 bit intel?
[07:11] <Oli``> ljsmithx: it *does*... It's called IRC =)
[07:11] <ljsmithx> lol
[07:11] <Slart> Gokee2: I think so, yes
[07:12] <jay_> Am I just missing it or does Xchat not have an option to change fonts sizes ?:(
[07:12] <Oli``> ljsmithx: you can go 1-on-1, start your own channels, send and recieve files...
[07:12] <chuy_max> is there any way to monitor gpu activity?
[07:12] <Nostahl> can someone help me set up direct rendering please
[07:12] <Gokee2> Slart, Really?  WHere?  All I see at the download site is "64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD" as far as 64 bit goes
[07:12] <Slart> jay_: xchat gnome has an option in the preferences menu.. don't know about xchat
[07:12] <jay_> oops found it
[07:12] <chuy_max> Nostahl, checked the wiki already?
[07:12] <Evolution2> Oli``: what do you think?
[07:12] <Nostahl> chuy_max im not sure what i need to look for :)
[07:13] <Senrac> Thanks everyone for the help. I have Ubuntu up and running and using my EVDO card
[07:13] <Oli``> jay_: yeah it's under text box =)
[07:13] <norv> chuy_max: I don't believe so, but X lags are most certainly a sign that it's hit the upper limit
[07:13] <chuy_max> Nostahl, whats your card brand
[07:13] <ljsmithx> I know. But I use MSN to stay in touch of my mates. As much as I hate M$. I would love to switch networks
[07:13] <rkj> I installed gtk-gnutella using the Synaptic Package Mgr in Feisty - but when I run it it says the version is "ancient". Where can I get a more up-to-date version and how to install it?
[07:13] <ljsmithx> Imagine "Go on ImBuntu tonight!"
[07:13] <Nostahl> chuy_max nvidia gforce fx 5200   ( glxinfo | grep direct says Direct rendering : No
[07:13] <Oli``> Evolution2: does your mount point exist? you need to create the directory before you can mount to it
[07:13] <ljsmithx> thats a pretty cool name!
[07:13] <Slart> Gokee2: I think that's the one.. intel or amd might not make any difference
[07:13] <nightangel> can someone help me about Mac-on-Linux please ? i've got a problem lauching the "make" command
[07:13] <Evolution2> ok
[07:13] <chuy_max> !nvidia | Nostahl
[07:13] <ubotu> Nostahl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <norv> ljsmithx: pidgin handles most everything, though it's kind of lacking in features
[07:14] <Nostahl> chuy_max i already installed the restricted drivers for it
[07:14] <ljsmithx> yeah
[07:14] <noomz> Can I ask about Jahshaka on Ubuntu in this channel?
[07:14] <Oli``> Evolution2: create it as root, eg: sudo mkdir /mnt/Taoufik
[07:14] <Gokee2> Slart, Really?  Ok...  Then why does it say amd instead of just 64 bit?  Also it does not matter that its a dual core right?
[07:14] <ljsmithx> I'm no software developer. So I'm not going to make the project. I just thought it was a ghood idea
[07:15] <Slart> Gokee2: I think it's to give amd some cred for coming out with a 64-bit processor first.. intels 64-bit processors came later.. so to honour amd they still call it amd
[07:15] <Evolution2> thanks a lot Oli``
[07:15] <chuy_max> Nostahl, it has been ages since I installed an Nvidia, what driver are you using?
[07:15] <wols> Slart: intel's came out first but totally different architecture. IA64 vs. x86-64
[07:15] <norv> ljsmithx: ubuntu's own IM client you mean? well that sort of would defeat the point of open source software
[07:15] <cafuego> Gokee2: There is no "just" 64bit.
[07:16] <Slart> Gokee2: dual core or single core.. it's the same.. they removed the smp flavour some time ago, see !smp
[07:16] <nightangel> can someone help me about Mac-on-Linux please ? i've got a problem lauching the "make" command
[07:16] <ljsmithx> I think I should go over the #ubuntu-offtopic to clear the area
[07:16] <noomz> How can I eliminate "Segmentation Fault" from XQueryExtension()?
[07:16] <ljsmithx> norv: I mean it would be on all platforms
[07:16] <Oli``> Evolution2: you will need to give your user account permissions to access the mount point; sudo chown <username> /mnt/Taoufik
[07:16] <Gokee2> Ok thanks :)
[07:16] <Nostahl> chuy_max when i booted up after installing it it asked if i wanted to use a the restricted driver for full 3d acceleration etc so i enabled it and restarted its all working but not direct rendering
[07:16] <cafuego> Gokee2: Thing is, Intel has 64bit CUPs first, but they're completely incompatible with ia32 and amd64 (and cost a lot, and are not particularly fast in the real world)
[07:16] <ljsmithx> brb dinner
[07:17] <Slart> wols: yes.. can't really remember the details.. but I remember it was a way to give amd some credit.. might have read about it on the ubuntu site..
[07:17] <Gokee2> Also one other thing I am a debian user only messed with ubuntu a few times so far..  So can you tell me is there a stable,testing,unstable type tree in ubuntu or just the releases?
[07:17] <Oli``> Yeah Itaniums were rubbish.
[07:17] <Evolution2> Oli``: ok thanks a lot. that makes some sense
[07:17] <Slart> Gokee2: unlike debian, ubuntu releases are frozen, or so to say... you'll have to do a big upgrade in april, when the next version is out
[07:18] <Gokee2> Ok cool
[07:18] <Senrac> How do I resize my HDD Partition
[07:18] <Slart> !gparted | Senrac
[07:18] <ubotu> Senrac: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[07:18] <Oli``> Senrac: use gparted (via synaptic)
[07:19] <chuy_max> Nostahl, what driver says you are using in xorg.conf?
[07:19] <Oli``> Senrac: if you're editing partitions that are mounted at the moment, I suggest you use the Ubuntu LiveCD if you've got it to hand
[07:19] <Nostahl> chuy_max nvidia
[07:20] <laymu> Is there any college students?
[07:20] <Oli``> I'm sure there is
[07:20] <laymu> I am
[07:21] <monkeyguru> if you type /quit then a username, it will kick them off
[07:21] <Senrac> will repartitioning damage the partition?
[07:21] <Slart> monkeyguru: no reason for that kind of stuff
[07:21] <monkeyguru> just kiddin
[07:21] <Slart> Senrac: it shouldn't
[07:21] <xTheGoat121x> What's up folks
[07:21] <Moniker42> monkeyguru, you'll get kicked for that
[07:21] <Senrac> thanks
[07:21] <Moniker42> (if any ops spot, anyway)
[07:22] <Oli``> =D
[07:22] <DeZ_666> DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[07:22] <chuy_max> Nostahl, do you have xserver-xgl ?
[07:23] <MTecknology> hu?
[07:23] <MTecknology> what caused the ban?
[07:23] <Nostahl> chuy_max let me double check
[07:23] <chuy_max> Nostahl, if you have it, maybe that's the problem
[07:24] <chuy_max> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585978 Nostahl
[07:24] <Nostahl> chuy_max it says its already at the newest version
[07:24] <xTheGoat121x> So I'
[07:25] <xTheGoat121x> I've noticed a higher CPU temp and major fluctuations  in Ubuntu than in Win... possible causes?
[07:25] <Moniker42> xTheGoat121x, running compiz?
[07:25] <truna> anyone know of a tool to convert an iptables -vL result into a readable rules ? hard to reconstitute the output of iptables -vL
[07:25] <Nostahl> chuy_max k im removing it
[07:26] <xTheGoat121x> Moniker42, yes.
[07:26] <Slart> xTheGoat121x: windows oriented acpi hardware? limited drivers due to unreleased specs? could be lots of things
[07:26] <Nostahl> chuy_max k i removed xserver-xgl and then did glxinfo | grep direct and it still says direct rendering no
[07:26] <Moniker42> xTheGoat121x, try turning off desktop effects and see if it improves
[07:26] <Moniker42> but a slightly higher CPU temp isn't much to worry about anyway
[07:26] <chuy_max> Nostahl, restart
[07:26] <Nasari> sorry. I don't mean to bother y'all again, but I had another question - I accidentally installed some sort of package manager or something that let me install packages that I downloaded without the complicated console stuff, anyone have any idea what it was
[07:27] <Slart> actually.. desktop effects didn't have any effect on running- on-battery time
[07:27] <Slart> for my laptop
[07:27] <Slart> Nasari: synaptic is installed by  default.. might be that
[07:27]  * MTeck has left
[07:27] <Moniker42> Slart, with wobbly windows and fire writing? :)
[07:27] <Nostahl> chuy_max k
[07:27] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, honestly, I think it has something to do with my ACPI, specificially the DSDT or somesuch...
[07:27] <Nostahl> chuy_max restarting now
[07:28] <wols> Nostahl: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[07:28] <Slart> Moniker42: ok.. I didn't max it.. but still =)
[07:28] <xTheGoat121x> Moniker42, I'll give that a shot too, but as far as I know, I tried that.
[07:28] <Nasari> Slart: Thanks
[07:29] <ZeeO> hey guys i pluged a usb mp3 player into my computer removed it and now i can't boot into gnome if i put it back in it boots whats the fix
[07:29] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, not much chance of fixing it, though, eh?
[07:30] <Oli``> Wow using the mouse-wheel on a window's frame makes it roll up (forgotten the technical term)!
[07:30] <Oli``> I love finding little gems like that
[07:30] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: Did you eject it properly the first time?
[07:30] <Slart> xTheGoat121x: well.. google.. look in the forums.. people come up with all kinds of tweaks
[07:30] <ZeeO> yes
[07:30] <ZeeO> well when i did that
[07:30] <Nostahl> chuy_max direct rendering Yes woot
[07:30] <ZeeO> the computer rebooted when it booted back up i did't start all the way
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> Slart, here's hoping that someone will.
[07:31] <ZeeO> it loads a blue screen get mouse
[07:31] <xTheGoat121x> Or that Acer will actually get their act together.
[07:31] <Shai_A> Hello, I'm new to Linux, can anyone tell me how can I safely remove a disk-on-key from my computer, like in Windows?
[07:31] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: What dev is it?
[07:31] <ZeeO> newest ubuntu
[07:31] <harking> anyone know what would cause a small (3 sec) delay after user prompt at a terminal login?
[07:31] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: I mean, what device ID is it showing up as?
[07:31] <harking> (Gutsy)
[07:31] <Oli``> Shai_A: go to Places, Computer, right click the drive and click unmount
[07:31] <ZeeO> o
[07:32] <ZeeO> 1 sec
[07:32] <wols> Shai_A: unmount it, remove it
[07:32] <Nasari> I had another question, i'm not shure if anyone know the music player foobar2000 - but is there a smiler one to that for linux?
[07:32] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: I am thinking it's showing up as a harddrive, perhaps hd1 somehow...You have to unmount it, and then remount your regular hda1
[07:32] <Shai_A> Oli: I unmounted it, but the disk-on-key was still active (I saw that it was powered on)
[07:32] <ZeeO> how can i check for that im in command line you see using bitchx
[07:33] <PurpZeY> Nasari: I use xmms
[07:33] <Oli``> Shai_A: powered doesn't mean active. I think that's as safe as you'll get
[07:33] <Shai_A> Oli: okay, thanks.
[07:33] <Nasari> PurpZeY: ok, thanks
[07:34] <PurpZeY> ZeeO: /dev
[07:34] <oops6_4> Hey guys i have dell vostro and my Sound card is In  Intel Corporation 82801H , Device ID:00:1b  8086:284b (rev 02) which isnt working.  uname -a:  Linux zeroth 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 05:28:27 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux;  cat /etc/issue:  Ubuntu 7.10 \n \l    How do I get it working?  I've tried installing the latest version of alsa-driver, alsa-utils, and alsa-lib (version 1.0.15).
[07:36] <oops6_4> I also find that this directory "/proc/asound/card0" does not exist.  Also, cat /proc/asound/cards enlists no cards.
[07:37] <tuntun> is it possible to select which appslications can and cant be swapped?
[07:37] <platius> oops6_4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  have you looked here?
[07:38] <navreet> what's up xTheGoat121x
[07:38] <SuperQ> tuntun: I think there are ways
[07:39] <PurpZeY> Can I ask a theoretical question?
[07:39] <SuperQ> tuntun: but I'm not sure off the top of my head
[07:39] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: of course
[07:39] <tuntun> SuperQ: :|
[07:39] <oops6_4> platius: I've read the wiki but not that page.  I'll read it and return.
[07:39] <SuperQ> tuntun: Personally, I just disable swap :)
[07:39] <sigra> what is a good psp to use find software and files?
[07:39] <sigra> p2p
[07:39] <platius> oops6_4, k
[07:39] <SuperQ> sigra: Synaptic
[07:40] <PurpZeY> Well, devices are identified...like hda1 or eht1....How would I tell what device is what...like, I know my wireless card is wlan0, but it's not in /dev or /dev/net is there a CLI command? or am I missing something ?
[07:40] <interceptor> !ru
[07:40] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:40] <simion314> i have ubuntu7.10 and the sound in flash player is not working, i found many fixes on forums but do not work for me. has anyone here had this problem?
[07:40] <xTheGoat121x> navreet, actually just about outta here.
[07:40] <PurpZeY> !flash | simion314
[07:40] <ubotu> simion314: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[07:40]  * kewlguy2 is frustrated with his ubuntu setup
[07:40] <kewlguy2> it keep reboot into low res mode
[07:40] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: so you've found one of the anoying flaws in the way linux works :)
[07:40] <sigra> no mean like windows has shareprograms ...wanting find one for ubuntu
[07:40] <interceptor> !ru
[07:40] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:40] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: there are different tools for differnet device classes
[07:40] <tuntun> SuperQ:  unfortunately theres isnt an consensus on wether swappiness should be increased/decreased/on/off.
[07:40] <sigra> peer to peer sharing
[07:41] <SuperQ> tuntun: I know
[07:41] <SuperQ> tuntun: if you're having problems with a specific app swapping, I would just turn it off
[07:41] <tuntun> SuperQ:  thats what i was thinking.
[07:42] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Well, I mean, someone was just saying they were having a problem with devices...I was thinking maybe the device in question had become hda1, and i wanted to tell him, well, see if it's hda1, and then if it is unmount it, and find hda1 and then remount hda1....but of course. . .
[07:42]  * MTeck is back
[07:42] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: hrm
[07:42] <juan> suspending my pc will log me out how can i stop this?
[07:43] <Nasari> Thank you everyone for your support!
[07:43]  * Nasari Cheers!
[07:43] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Or sometimes, from an lspci, I want to see what device a particular card is identified as...is it wlan0 or eth1 etc
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: Yea, it's near impossible to answer "my devices are broken" without knowing what "devices" is
[07:43]  * Nasari waves goodbye
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: there are lots of tools for listing different things
[07:43] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, so, let's work particularly....if I run lspci
[07:43] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: lspci is good for PCI devices, lsusb is good for USB devices
[07:44] <greentea> anyone know how to turn off volume limiting in ubuntu?
[07:44] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: "ip addr show" is good for listing network interfaces (which may be virtual)
[07:44] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Well, I'm just saying on a hypothetical level.
[07:44] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: The ubuntu people have been working on a "devices" GUI tool
[07:44] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So, now I've got the device via lspci, I see it...The only way to find out what "Device" is to use iwconfig?
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: it really really depends on the device
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: if it is a wireless card, then iwconfig will help
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: if it's regular ethernet, it won't
[07:45] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: Linux is all about using the right tool for the job, not one tool to do every job
[07:45] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, I got that part...so let's say then instead it's a usb device....external harddrive
[07:46] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: then you have other tools, like hdparm, or fdisk
[07:46] <Learning-Ubuntu> The command nc localhost 7634 returns the error The coost [127.0.0.1] 7634 (?) : Connection refused . ANy clue on what Im doign wrong here
[07:46] <soldats> greentea, i dont know the exact command but i think you can look through the "xset" man pages via "man xset" in a terminal
[07:46] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: depending on what you want to do with the external (or internal) drive
[07:46] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Just to identify it to unmount it
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: it's much easier with linux to answer "What do you want to do"
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: "mount" will list mounted drives
[07:47] <Learning-Ubuntu> er the error was "localhost [127.0.0.1] 7634 (?) : Connection refused"
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: and then you can use "umount /path/drive/is/mounted"
[07:47] <greentea> thanks soldats
[07:47] <greentea> i'll take a look
[07:47] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Ok, mount, that makes sense, I think that's the command I was looking for
[07:47] <soldats> cool
[07:47] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: but it may require root privileges to unmount, unless it was mounted by the GUI automounter
[07:48] <Flannel> Learning-Ubuntu: what are you trying to listen to on port 7634?
[07:48] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: the GUI automounter provides a right-click unmount option
[07:48] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: which gets access via special system feature
[07:48] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Well my conky configurations is erroring out on the command and I believe it si the hard disk parameters
[07:48] <SuperQ> (dbus if you're curious)
[07:48] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: But, if, just for example in this last case, somehow this USB drive is getting mounted as hda1, it's going to require CLI
[07:49] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It shouldn't require it if the GUI auto-mounts it
[07:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Here is a copy of my conky script if it will help http://pastebin.com/m797cfe9b
[07:49] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: but CLI is one way to be sure
[07:50] <SuperQ> :)
[07:50] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So would unmounting it force the machine down/
[07:50] <SuperQ> no
[07:50] <SuperQ> it should not
[07:50] <SuperQ> unless hda1 is the root filesystem :)
[07:50] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: At this point it's all academic...I am just curious...The guy said he had a USB device when he ejected it, it rebooted his system and now his system wouldn't boot without it present
[07:51] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: So my thought was that somehow it got mounted as the filesystem.
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: hrm
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It's possible he added it to fstab
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: which means it may block booting
[07:51] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: see, it's MUCH easier to help if you just state the actual problem ;)
[07:52] <soldats> greentea, actually i could have swore that it was in the man pages but i guess not i just looked to try to figure it out sorry, ill look again somewhere or you should try google
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: And by added to fstab, it's easy to do in the GUI
[07:52] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: There was no 'actual problem' here...I was just sort of making it up from a composite of things I tried to help people with.
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: It would be easy to fix via editing the /etc/fstab file
[07:52] <Learning-Ubuntu> Flannel, Here is the command that nc uses echo "$(nc localhost 7634 | cut -d'|' -f4)" This was in a hdd monitoring script
[07:52] <SuperQ> PurpZeY: then the disk would not be required for boot
[07:52] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: ok. that makes sense.
[07:53] <PurpZeY> SuperQ: Sometimes people have problems, and I "see" the solution, but I don't know the implementation
[07:54] <greentea> soldats, yeah i didn't see anything about volume there...google is turning up nothing
[07:54] <soldats> yea i guess just keep looking ill try as well
[07:55] <francis> hi could someone please help me with my postfix problem . I spent days trying to figure this out without any solution . I have postfix working accepting mails for hosted domains but I cant sent mails for hosted domains !! Please HElpp
[07:55] <wols> francis: what error(s)?
[07:56] <francis> wols i get a RCPT access denied
[07:56] <francis> the funny thing is I can receive mails for hosted domains
[07:57] <kickin> jhsf
[07:57] <wols> that's not an error message
[07:57] <firenx> why does ubuntu have klogd and sysklogd both activated? do they do something different? (just looking in services settings)
[07:58] <wols> userspace logs, kernel logs
[07:58] <firenx> ah ok
[07:59] <francis> wols:  how do i get postfix to behave
[07:59] <wols> by telling us the error message first?
[07:59] <Q_Continuum_> For some reason, when my laptop (Dell E1505N - Ubuntu 7.04 preloaded, upgraded to 7.10) hits 'low battery power' it just powers off, rather than hibernate - which is what it is set to do. (hibernate, not hard-power off)
[08:00] <francis> wols: hold on
[08:00] <JLappy> does anyone know of a good keylogger for linux?
[08:00] <wols> JLappy: no. please don't ask such questions in here
[08:00] <JLappy> why not? i don't want it for malicious purposes, just for my own records
[08:00] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: I understand this is not a fix for your problem but it has been my experience that hibernate really doesn't work all that well.
[08:01] <wols> JLappy: yeah right....
[08:01] <JLappy> seriously
[08:01] <wols> JLappy: go away
[08:01] <preaction> JLappy, far easier to get one of those little appliances that attach to PS/2 cables
[08:01] <tuntun> JLappy: is there any legitimate use for a keylogger?
[08:01] <Q_Continuum_> PurpZeY, if I manually force it into hibernation (hit the power button) it works 100% fine.
[08:01] <francis> wols:  give me a minute . Will put it up on pastbin
[08:01] <Q_Continuum_> tuntun: corporate ownership of a machine.
[08:01] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: The GUI is set to hibernate at no battery?
[08:02] <preaction> tuntun, you could get some interesting usage stats about what you do on the computer
[08:02] <Q_Continuum_> PurpZeY Power Management is set to hibernate at 'low battery' - I can't specify what 'low battery' is
[08:02] <JLappy> tuntun: just to look back at things i should have saved and didn't
[08:02] <JimmyDee> ompaul ompaul ompaul!
[08:02] <wols> Q_Continuum_: if you can't trust even they input of your employee why would you employ him?
[08:02] <wols> *the
[08:02] <Q_Continuum_> tuntun: secure machine, or for root access logging.
[08:02] <kiki7> hallo @ all
[08:02] <tuntun> !hi
[08:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:02] <kiki7> is somebody here who can help me ?!
[08:03] <Q_Continuum_> wols: Try asking the NSA what they do for their uber-computers.  Or a beyond-top-secret machine.
[08:03] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: Right, got it...
[08:03] <tonsofpcs> how do I restart udevd properly?
[08:03] <bullgard4> "$ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." Why do I have two directories /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4 and /linux-source-2.6.22  having almost the same contents on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer?
[08:03] <wols> tonsofpcs: /etc/init.d/udev restart?
[08:03] <Q_Continuum_> If I'm ultra-parinoid about the contents of the machine, I'm going to take EVERY possible safeguard for that data.
[08:03] <tonsofpcs> yup, thanks wols :)
[08:03] <kiki7> I have a problem with my soundblaster live! 5.1 plantinum :S
[08:03] <wols> bullgard4: dpkg -S <file> is your friend
[08:04] <kiki7> can somebody help me ?!
[08:04] <francis> wols: http://pastebin.ca/841105
[08:04] <wols> Q_Continuum_: then clearly a software for keylogging is the wrong approach
[08:04] <greentea> what's your problem kiki
[08:04] <tonsofpcs> bullgard4: one is 2.6.22, one is 2.6.22.4
[08:04] <Q_Continuum_> wols: how so?  Why can't it be part of a multi-layered approach?
[08:04] <francis> I can receive mails for chip-india.com
[08:04] <wols> greentea:his problem is, he can't do a proper error description to ask for help
[08:04] <PurpZeY> Q_Continuum_: I am using a script to override my power-settings. . .So, I know it can be done
[08:04] <bullgard4> tonsofpcs: I noticed a difference in the numbers. But can you elaborate.
[08:05] <Q_Continuum_> why would I trust a *single* piece of hardware/software to log activity on a system?  Why not have 5, so if one fails, I have 4 still working.
[08:05] <kiki7> greentea : I try to get surround with this card, the drivers seem to be installed properly but I can't hear anything. The boxes are installed but theres no sound
[08:05] <tonsofpcs> no, not really
[08:05] <zoink_> i just created a raid-5 with 3 drives using mdadm, one of the drives is listed as "spare rebuilding", is this normal? :/
[08:05] <wols> francis: whoever tries to send the mail, is that host in the same network?
[08:06] <greentea> kiki7, does your card have a digital/analog switch?  you might have a hardware switch on the speakers as well as a software switch when you double-click the speaker icon
[08:06] <francis> wols: no the clients are in a different network !! the server2 is at the datacenter
[08:06] <wols> francis: your mynetworks= setting is either wrong or probably doesn't have all needed networks
[08:06] <wols> francis: you will need SMTPD auth then
[08:07] <francis> wols: give me a minute . shall look up mynetwork
[08:07] <francis> *mynetworks
[08:08] <kiki7> when i doubleclick the headphone icon, there's a software switch, where i can change the volume of the master, the bass, the highs and the middles... I tried to activate surround, but there is no  choice marked surround or anything else. I'm using the ALSA mixer :S
[08:08] <wols> Q_Continuum_: you cannot police a machine with a process running on that machine. not possible
[08:08] <wols> Q_Continuum_: for the same reason desktop firewalls or av programs are snakeoil
[08:09] <wols> francis: since you're trying to send via the MTA from outside it's network, smtpd auth is the only sensible choice
[08:09] <Q_Continuum_> wols: so a rootkit wouldn't work?
[08:09] <francis> wols:  yea  i was just coming to that
[08:09] <soldats> greentea, so what exactly happened with volume
[08:10] <francis> as i need authentication for outgoing mails
[08:10] <wols> rootkit working for what?
[08:10] <simion314> the open implementation for flash plugin are working? can it be used?
[08:10] <greentea> kiki7, i suggest going into edit > preferences, enabling everything, then pushing all the volumes all the way up.  also, read http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/10/get-better-sound-in-ubuntu-with-brand.html and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651140
[08:10] <wols> simion314: for small values of "working"
[08:10] <francis> could you please point me in some direction for smtp auth . I have courier for pop auth
[08:11] <greentea> soldats, i can't find information anywhere on the volume limiting.  i'm pretty sure it's a system setting rather than for instance just gstreamer, because it seems to affect everything
[08:11] <wols> francis: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html
[08:11] <simion314> n i install an older flash player that works? if the bug is in the flash and not in ubuntu or the browsers then it should work
[08:12] <simion314> Can i?
[08:12] <wols> simion314: the bug is in the ubuntu packages
[08:12] <francis> hey !! finally found it . was looking for this page for some time now
[08:12] <wols> well but might be misleading actually
[08:12] <wols> !flash | simion314
[08:12] <ubotu> simion314: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:12] <soldats> greentea, so all your volume is really low or way too high?
[08:13] <bullgard4> wols: "$ dpkg -S /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4/; dpkg: /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4/ nothing found." Tell me please why you told me that " dpkg -S <file> is your friend."
[08:13] <wols> file. not directory
[08:13] <soldats> ha
[08:13] <kiki7> thank you very much.. ill try it greentea .. ill let you know if its the right solution yeah?
[08:14] <bullgard4> wols: I put here a question about direcotries. You told me something about files. Did you misunderstand my question?
[08:14] <Ghita> Bonjour tout le monde
[08:14] <greentea> soldats, the problem is that my volume seems to be limited beyond a certain point.  even turning up the hardware nob does not increase the output, just the noise, as if ubuntu is artificially limiting it.  in windows, this isn't a problem.
[08:15] <tuntun> !french
[08:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:15] <soldats> greentea, wow, thats odd. im going to continue looking into it
[08:16] <wols> bullgard4: no I did not. maybe you should read more documentation about dpkg to see what -S does
[08:20] <bullgard4> wols: I have read dpkg --help. It says: "Use 'dselect' or 'aptitude' for user-friendly package management.  --  How can I use Synaptic to answer the question why I do have two directories /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4 and /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22  having almost the same contents although I have got only one kernel to boot?
[08:21] <preaction> bullgard4, because those are the sources of two kernels, you only have one compiled kernel available in your grub configuration
[08:21] <wols> I told you to look up what -S does. --help is not really documentation btw. manpages are
[08:21] <soldats> man dpkg
[08:22]  * Zkline waves?  "Hiya...I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and am having a problem with the keyboard."
[08:22] <soldats> greentea, did you try doing 'alsamixer' in a terminal and turning everything up
[08:24] <greentea> soldats, yeah.  i've tried using oss instead of alsa, tried a different backend (xine instead of gstreamer), tried cranking every setting i could find...
[08:24] <simon____> when will flash be working again?
[08:24] <jaime> Can linux ruin laptop internal?
[08:24] <simon____> this was a long break...
[08:24] <|ns|nR8> no jaime
[08:24] <greentea> jaime, are you talking about a specific piece of hardware?
[08:25] <jaime> sony vaio laptop
[08:25] <jaime> professional computer tech says only sony can write driver for vaio laptops
[08:25] <bullgard4> preaction: How can I determine if /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4/ or /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 is the source of my only compiled kernel 2.6.22-14-generic?
[08:25] <greentea> professional support is stupid, apparently
[08:25] <soldats> greentea, this site had something that may help but im way too tired to pay attention http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/ubuntu-enable-sound-with-feisty-fawn-and-via-82xx-aka-ac97/
[08:25] <jaime> Yes and that is my brother
[08:25] <Zkline> Might anybody have any idea why I can't use three keys at the same time on my laptop?  I'm blind, and so using keyboard shortcuts is pretty near essential for me.  ctrl+alt+tab doesn't work to move focus to the Gnome panel as it should.
[08:25] <scguy318> jaime: what's your questino?
[08:25] <jaime> theres an battery issue, then i told him linux works great
[08:25] <|ns|nR8> jaime it cant phsically damage it
[08:26] <soldats> greentea, sorry but i gotta sleep ill look more into it tomorrow
[08:26] <greentea> soldats, thanks for your efforts, have a good one
[08:26] <preaction> bullgard4, i expect linux-source-2.6.22 is the source of your compiled kernel, but don't quote me. neither are necessary to keep, since it's already compiled. there's no real way to tell, but you could guess
[08:26] <greentea> jaimie, operating systems are just software, they can't do anything physically to your system except some rather minor things
[08:26] <jaime> people please write the answere of my quetion
[08:26] <King-Buntu> Anyone know why conly is coming up with the letter A before my temperatures . Example it displays 45 A oC
[08:26] <jaime> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657904
[08:27] <jaime> please reply there
[08:27] <|ns|nR8> no
[08:27] <jaime> I do believe overclocking using a software in windows can damage a laptop
[08:27] <bullgard4> preaction: Thank you very much for explaining.
[08:27] <|ns|nR8> writing to your bios can damage it aswell
[08:28] <jaime> but i totally don't agree my brother even if he is a tech he is just not linux smart
[08:28] <|ns|nR8> motherboard and videocard bios
[08:28] <greentea> jaimie, i thinky our brother might have read the problem with ubuntu and laptop harddrives, where ubuntu can make them load/unload too much
[08:29] <jaime> I don't know, i don't know if he even tried linux, he said he has, he did had alot of linux books
[08:29] <jaime> but sony is a company that you can not use other people driver, because it is modified
[08:30] <jaime> yet linux is an opensource
[08:30] <greentea> i had a vaio, they work fine with linux
[08:30] <greentea> it's just like any other computer
[08:30] <greentea> if a driver doesn't work, it doesn't work
[08:30] <jaime> yup
[08:31] <jaime> mine everything works
[08:31] <eckesicle> Hello all. I have a slight problem. Some douchebag issued a move command with an empty variable and a * in it...
[08:31] <jaime> just upset me that my brother being an asshole because i got rid of windows
[08:31] <eckesicle> meaning most of the system has been moved to
[08:31] <eckesicle>  /some/path/
[08:31] <jaime> yet he doesn't know that i didn't entire errase my windows xp yet its just dual booting
[08:31] <scguy318> eckesicle: so mv -R /some/path /old/location?
[08:32] <jaime> ok at open arena, my sound cracks
[08:32] <eckesicle> scguy318, yeah well mv: command not found
[08:32] <chazco> Hi... i've got a Samsung F700... is it possible to sync this with Gusty via USB/bluetooth?
[08:32] <greentea> scguy318, unless there is other stuff in the location...
[08:32] <jaime> but other games works just fine whats the problem?
[08:32] <eckesicle> actually I even get /usr/bin/command-not-found: no such file
[08:32] <scguy318> greentea: oh, true
[08:32] <scguy318> eckesicle: /some/path/bin/mv ...
[08:32] <greentea> eckesicle, did you move the contents of your /bin/ folder?!
[08:32] <eckesicle> scguy318, and /some/path/bin/mv doesn't work either.
[08:33] <eckesicle> greentea, not me, but i have to clean up the mess
[08:33] <jaime> NEED HELP, OPEN ARENA SOUND DO CRACKING SOUND, yet other games does not
[08:33] <greentea> are you using root to execute mv?
[08:33] <scguy318> eckesicle: so where was it moved?
[08:34] <scguy318> eckesicle: what from where to where?
[08:34] <wols> jaime: your keyboard is broken too
[08:34] <King-Buntu> lol
[08:34] <eckesicle> from / to /path
[08:34] <greentea> wols, i love you
[08:34] <jaime> LOL
[08:34] <jaime> just fn LOL
[08:34] <King-Buntu> jaime, OpenArena has a few bugs under launchpad for sound issues By any chance are you on a 64 bit install ?
[08:34] <ZeeO> PurpZeY you still here
[08:34] <jaime> no
[08:34] <jaime> its a centrino cpu
[08:35] <scguy318> eckesicle: so /path/bin/mv doesn't work?
[08:35] <eckesicle> nope
[08:35] <ZeeO> im still having this issue with gnome not booting all the way after unpluging usb drive
[08:35] <alyxander> hey anyone around?
[08:35] <eckesicle> no such file or directory
[08:35] <alyxander> im having trouble with emeral themes
[08:35] <eckesicle> but i can cd to it
[08:36] <francis> wols: i came across this http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html
[08:36] <alyxander> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[08:36] <eckesicle> to the directory and doubletab to get a list of contents and i see it there
[08:36] <wols> ZeeO: how far is it booting exactly?
[08:36] <jaime> anybody plays open arena?
[08:36] <lazy247x_> how do i get rid of my mount on windows on boot-up
[08:36] <alyxander> and i get cannt  connect to server
[08:36] <kenryu> hey
[08:36] <scguy318> eckesicle: is mv inside it? and is the path your cwd?
[08:36] <francis> but it talks about adding a network
[08:36] <ZeeO> gets to login screen i login then i get my background kind of and mouse
[08:36] <scguy318> eckesicle: ./mv ...?
[08:36] <alyxander> #compiz
[08:36] <|ns|nR8> lazy247x, you dont want your windows partition mounted in linux ?
[08:37] <francis> could you point me in some direction when i could find docs about smtp auth wols
[08:37] <eckesicle> scguy318, tried and doesn't work
[08:37] <lazy247x_> thats right
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> open terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:37] <lazy247x_> i dont want it mounted untill i mount it
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> and remove the lines with ntfs
[08:37] <King-Buntu> jaime, My install only works for about 5 - 10 minutes. I was recommended an update which I dont have the time to do. You could find better help in the #OpenArena channel I guess?
[08:37] <alyxander> ok one more time i run svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes and i get an error that it cannot connect to server
[08:37] <lazy247x_> if thats makes any sinces
[08:37] <|ns|nR8> thats if their ntfs
[08:38] <alyxander> what am i doing wrong
[08:38] <jaime> lol
[08:38] <jaime> 4 people only
[08:38] <ZeeO> wols can you do me the bigest fav in the world and google it im stuck in command line
[08:38] <loodjuret> I need some help with the ubuntu preinstalled dictionary (appl -> access -> dictionary)
[08:38] <ZeeO> and text based google sucks
[08:38] <scguy318> eckesicle: ok, um, er, dunno chroot, however silly that might be
[08:38] <wols> ZeeO: google what?
[08:38] <scguy318> eckesicle: or perform the move from outside the system I guess
[08:38] <ZeeO> umm gnome not booting after removing usb drive
[08:38] <wols> !doesntwork
[08:38] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:39] <eckesicle> command not found
[08:39] <wols> ZeeO: I won't run silly google searches. check your xsession-errors
[08:39] <eckesicle> but come'on there has to be a better way
[08:39] <ZeeO> if i plug the usb drive in it boots just fine
[08:39] <dandre> hello,
[08:39] <ZeeO> thing is the drive is not at my place no more
[08:39] <ZeeO> its a buddys mp3 player
[08:40] <greentea> ZeeO, did you put something on the drive?  like your home folder?
[08:40] <dandre> I don't remember which channel is for compiz discussion
[08:40] <ZeeO> lol no
[08:40] <ZeeO> draged some mp3s to it
[08:40] <ZeeO> thats about it
[08:40] <neil_d> I am trying to get xinetd vnc and gutsy to work together, the best I can get at the moment is a vncviewer window pops up for about 1 second then disappears.  What is wrong ?
[08:40] <level1> once I log into the ubuntu website, I can't seem to load any page on help.ubuntu.com... it just doesn't load.  This seems to be the case with konqueror, firefox, and even windows firefox
[08:40] <jaime> who is buffsabre666
[08:41] <level1> Every time I log in, I get redirected to a UserPreferences page, and from there, I can't load anything else
[08:41] <bluefoxx> HELP!!!i was just on msn and the convo got hacked!!
[08:41] <scguy318> eckesicle: I wish I could help further, I'm out of ideas :(
[08:41] <King-Buntu> level1, You can access other websites?
[08:41] <scguy318> bluefoxx: hacked how?
[08:41] <greentea> ZeeO, have you checked your fstab and mtab files to make sure the drive isn't listed there, as well as making sure GNOME isn't trying to restore a session with the drive opened in nautilus?
[08:41] <jaime> LOL @ Bluefoxx
[08:41] <level1> King-Buntu: yeah
[08:42] <greentea> i wonder if another desktop would boot for you
[08:42] <King-Buntu> level1, When I have similar some pages dont load issues I switch to OpenDNS and it tends to fix it
[08:42] <level1> King-Buntu: how do I switch to opendns?
[08:42] <King-Buntu> level1, Wait a second Im reading your second line
[08:42] <lazy247x_> if i go into fstab and remove the windows part.. how can i mount it if i wanted 2?
[08:43] <level1> King-Buntu: hmm... it seems to be working now
[08:43] <King-Buntu> lol
[08:43] <bluefoxx> i was talking to my g/f and sudddenly there were a bunch of un-farmiliar ppl in the conversation, i googled the adresses and got nothing whatsoever, ghost accounts
[08:43] <bluefoxx> and yes i know hotmail sux, but its how i help my friends with theyr problems, keeping me sane
[08:43] <|ns|nR8> lazy247x_ try google
[08:43] <King-Buntu> Well then all is well
[08:43] <icesword> telnet ftp.ubuntu.org.cn
[08:43] <greentea> aw, how cute...bluefoxx wants us to think he has a girlfriend
[08:43] <eckesicle> scguy318, thx anyways
[08:43] <jaime> can anybody help me to get fn working to bright my screen and control volume
[08:44] <lazy247x_> is there a program or a way i can not have it mounted on boot-up windows??
[08:44] <simion314> ubotu: i reinstalled that flsh plugin and now it crashes firefox, i need just a working .so file for 32 bits, maybe i can compile from source
[08:45] <Logix_> Hello
[08:45] <icesword> lazy247x_, what is your problem?
[08:45] <greentea> lazy247x_, you can just use pmount to mount the drive after you remove it from fstab
[08:45] <King-Buntu> simion314, ubotu is a bot . He recommends a thread which contains a fix for 32 bti which isnt exactly recommended but should help in most cases
[08:45] <wyggler2> 7.1 install is seeing ide(pata) drives as scsi.  Google tells me this is now the norm(kernel change yadda...) Is this correct?
[08:45] <greentea> or, you can set it as a bookmark in nautilus, then remove it from your fstab, and then you can mount and unmount it through nautilus as you wish
[08:46] <Flannel> wyggler2: yes
[08:46] <greentea> wyggler2, yeah that's right
[08:46] <jaime> does anybody have a sony vaio with fn button working?
[08:46] <wyggler2> cool.  thanks.
[08:46] <SOUL> :)
 thx :-) i do not know that
[08:47] <n1mda> hi guys
[08:47] <greentea> jaime, try installing spicctrl
[08:47] <Filled-Void> simion314, In the thread it has the instructions with both 64 and 32 bit fixes make sure you install the right one. if you dont have the thread /msg ubotu flash it should help
[08:47] <icesword> what command to use to users on a system?
[08:48] <greentea> hey n1mda
[08:48] <icesword>  what command to use to see users on a system
[08:48] <Flannel> icesword: users
[08:48] <chayak> hi nlmda
[08:48] <n1mda> was just wondering, anyone of you how'd I go about to open a .bin file? :)
[08:48] <icesword> yes,Flannel
[08:48] <jaime> ok
[08:48] <Flannel> icesword: users is the command
[08:49] <chayak> @nlmda .bin as in cd image or .bin as in binary file?
[08:49] <icesword> Flannel, but i want to see all users?
 i installed the corect package, i belive it was on my HDD , can i force apt to download that package and not to use the one in my hhd
[08:49] <n1mda> a copy of a cd.. so cd image that is I guess
[08:49] <simion314> ?
[08:49] <Flannel> icesword: ah, then cat /etc/passwd
[08:50] <jaime> which installer program is best for me since i'm new to ubuntu
[08:50] <jaime> ??
[08:50] <Filled-Void> simion314, You would install flash as you would do from the repositories within Ubuntu . then just download the file in the thread mentioned above and double click it
[08:50] <greentea> aptitude is best on ubuntu
[08:50] <nyas> Hi everyone, I'm pretty sure it's a dumb question but is there a printer-freindly version for Ubuntu 7.10 documentation?
[08:50] <chayak> @nlmda there is a program called bin2iso which should convert it
[08:50] <greentea> 'sudo aptitude install packagename'
[08:50] <Flannel> nyas: check out the PDF versions,
[08:50] <jaime> is aptitude gui?
[08:50] <n1mda> chayak: thanks, im gonna check it out
[08:50] <Flannel> jaime: Use synaptic
[08:50] <n1mda> synaptic is
[08:51] <Flannel> jaime: synaptic package manager, in system > admin
[08:51] <jaime> i know
[08:51] <chayak> @nlmda I believe k3b supports it as well
[08:51] <bluefoxx> greentea: fsck you, i do, so just fsck you
[08:51] <bluefoxx> i didnt come here to be insulted by assfscks like you, and its ppl like you that are wrong with the world
[08:51] <bluefoxx> greentea: i bet you never even kissed a girl; much less made out with one, is that y u feel the need to try and put others down? well you fale
[08:51] <bluefoxx> all i want to know is if i should worrie as my g/f uses vista and two other friend of mine were pulled into the convo, niether are that skilled with computers
[08:51] <nyas> Flannel, where do you find them? Tried google but could not find...
[08:51] <bluefoxx> sorrie to flood
[08:51] <greentea> if you want gui, run synaptic, but yes aptitude has an ncurses (text-based gui) interface if you just type aptitude with no options
[08:51] <bluefoxx> but ppl that put others down in a 'comminutie' really piss me the hell off
[08:52]  * MTeck has left
[08:52] <Flannel> !away > MTeck
[08:52] <bluefoxx> so should i worrie?
[08:52] <Flannel> nyas: hmm, thats true.  I guess they haven't given PDFs since Edgy.  uh, hmm.
[08:52] <kenby> jaime:no,Synaptic is a gui tools
[08:53] <jaime> you're girlfriend should use windows xp or vista
[08:53] <jaime> since girls are so dumb
[08:53] <nyas> Flannel: thanks, I'l guess I'll just read it page by page in the browser
[08:53] <Astarte> I got 3 multimedia keys on my laptop that I can't get to work. I tried it in a real console and there is no output from these keys.. how do I fix it? I tried the forum and ubuntu website already
[08:53] <Flannel> !coc | jaime
[08:53] <ubotu> jaime: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:53] <chayak> @bluefoxx you're not helping the situation by ranting either, that's exactly the desired reaction
[08:53] <jaime> ?
[08:54] <Dyus> winehq
[08:54] <bluefoxx> yea, well i have a short temper
[08:54] <jaime> oh because the word i said du mmmm
[08:54] <jaime> ? sorry
[08:54] <greentea> Astarte, have you tried xev to see if it gives an output?
[08:54] <bluefoxx> and having my truethfullness insulted is a trigger, as is insulting those i love, especially wen thats my girlfriend
[08:55] <greentea> bluefoxx, how old are you?  honest question
[08:55] <Flannel> !offtopic
[08:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:55] <Parsec300> !foo
[08:55] <ubotu> bar
[08:55] <chazco> Hi... i've got a Samsung F700... is it possible to sync this with Gusty via USB/bluetooth?
[08:56] <Astarte> greentea: Yes. there is no output
[08:56] <eckesicle> I hate to repeat but, my / has been mv'd to /path ... now i cannot use mv to mv it back. Neither does /path/bin/mv work. A few commands like pwd and cd still work
[08:56] <scguy318> chazco: probably, but since I've never done any syncing or own any such devices, not sure
[08:56] <Flannel> eckesicle: LiveCD and fix it
[08:56] <darkblueB> OpenOffice+ Postgres: tried to install a the driver, following http;//dba.openoffice.org/drivers/postgresql/index.html and manually downloaed the latest Zip, for OpenOffice 2x. the util showed the driver as available, but, no option present in the DB connect wizard.. ??
[08:56] <n1mda> hmm chayak - that just messed it up, it changed my original file to an incomplete .iso
[08:57] <greentea> Astarte, what's your laptop model?  maybe google can help us out
[08:57] <eckesicle> Flannel, problem is the computer is on other side of globe.
[08:57] <Astarte> greentea: Sony Vaio AR590E. I didn't find anything about this model on google either. It's only 2 months old
[08:58] <jaime> astarte how is you're vaio laptop?
[08:58] <chazco> !kmobiletools
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <chayak> @nlmda eh, sorry, I've never really had a problem using it though it's only been about three times
[08:59] <Astarte> jaime: I love it. Some minor issues running ubuntu, like not being able to reduce brightness, etc, but other than that, I'm managing with it.
[09:00] <n1mda> chayak: allright, no biggy. While Im here I just must thank all devs on ubuntu! WE are all doing a great job! The best operatingsystem I have ever used
[09:00] <jaime> what is ur specs astarte?
[09:00] <greentea> Astarte, sorry, i think i'm finding the same thing you are, that your laptop is too new and unsupported
[09:00] <Senrac> What happens if you get spyware on linux how do you get rid of it?
[09:01] <chayak> @senrac there isn't really any spyware on linux
[09:01] <Astarte> jaime: 2GHz Core2Duo, 2GB RAM (Upgradable to 4GB), 2 X 160GB Hard drives, RAID controler, Blu-ray rewriter, 17" screen (1920 x 1200), HDMI out, GeForce 8600M GT, Inbuilt webcam
[09:01] <greentea> senrac, do you have something specific in mind?  you could just 'sudo rm /spyware/files' to get rid of it
[09:01] <greentea> bluefoxx, where'd you go?
[09:01] <inertial> is it possible to install an iso over the network using netboot?
[09:01] <jaime> I am currently with an Sony VGN FS790 and running so good in ubuntu
[09:01] <jaime> good :)
[09:01] <jaime> how is ur battery in linux?
[09:01] <Astarte> Nice
[09:02] <jaime> astarte
[09:02] <n1mda> bbl
[09:02] <Astarte> jaime: Well since I can't reduce brightness, I'm hardly getting an hour
[09:02] <bluefoxx> greentea: and i am inclined to answer you why?>i can just as easily lie, going by waht you said of me, and you know nothing of me other than that i call myself bluefoxx, use ubuntu hotmail and most likely have a girlfriend
[09:02] <bluefoxx> fyi, i am 16, but school testing says my mind operates at a adult's intellegence level, and i am in the top 95ith percentile of my age group, my maturity is often what teachers comment on wen talking to me, they say i am more mature than most ppl my age they talk to
[09:02] <bluefoxx> you know nothing of me other than what i tell you, therefore you have no right to judge me like you did, and if i didnt really have a girlfriend and love her more than life itself would i make such a scene infront of around 1200 random ppl, give or take?
[09:02] <bluefoxx> i think you should think before you speak[or hit enter in this case] and get to know a person before you judge them at all, or gtfo of a chat room
[09:03] <greentea> bluefoxx, i'm just trying to understand you a little better.  if you don't want to answer, no problem.  if you want to answer, maybe i can interact with you better
[09:03] <Senrac> just general spyware
[09:04] <inertial> no way to netboot an iso? :(
[09:04] <Astarte> greentea: I know it's a new model n everything.. but you have any idea why there is no output from the keys?
[09:04] <jaime> astarte i cant get that working either i just installed spicctrl and it wont work
[09:04] <Astarte> Ah
[09:04] <tuntun> !install | inertial
[09:04] <ubotu> inertial: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:04] <tuntun> thanks ubotu!!!
[09:05] <inertial> thanks tuntun
[09:05] <Astarte> jaime: For some reason my battery is now charging only upto 98% :[
[09:06] <greentea> each input has to have an individual id assigned to it, which is affected by both hardware and software...i'm guessing sony's hardware doesn't adhere to standards (as usual)
[09:06] <inertial> tuntun: thanks but unfortunately none of those are applicable to me
[09:06] <Astarte> greentea: You think they're doing this deliberately so it doesn't work with other OS?
[09:06] <inertial> i have no cd drive and no floppy drive- it is a laptop
[09:06] <jaime> astarte watch out which program you use to check if its fully charge
[09:07] <inertial> ah
[09:07] <jaime> astarte http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089930.msg107698#msg107698
[09:07] <inertial> i just thought of something..
[09:07] <inertial> i'll netboot into linux and then install from iso
[09:07] <darkblueB> anyone know which log OpenOffice might write errors to?
[09:07] <scguy318> !install | inertial
[09:07] <ubotu> inertial: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:07] <Astarte> jaime: Well now even windows shows only 98%. I don't know if it's got anything to do with me using the laptop for too long
[09:07] <scguy318> inertial: your options are there :)
[09:07] <jaime> maybe you if you can reply with you're specs of workings sony
[09:07] <Astarte> Uptime: 10 days, 17 hours, 07 minutes
[09:08] <tuntun> inertial: wadya mean theres a part about network install inthe link!
[09:08] <scguy318> Astarte: more than mine by a couple of hours :P
[09:08] <jaime> battery does warn out
[09:08] <Parsec300> Anybody need microsoft fonts for free?
[09:08] <Astarte> How long do you run it for max, scguy318?
[09:08] <jaime> i just got this laptop i am having battery issue and maybe cmos battery issue
[09:08] <inertial> tuntun: it requires floppies
[09:08] <Parsec300> Like Arial and stuff? for Linux?
[09:08] <jaime> otherwise ubuntu works
[09:09] <bla57634> Parsec300: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[09:09] <jaime> astarte do you use ur laptop often without using power supply?
[09:09] <bluefoxx> my faith in humanity and the 'ubuntu  philosophy' and god/religion as a whole falls ever lower each time i attempt to have a civil conversation anywere, it seems i cant escape imbeciles that will stoop to mockery of anothers personal life to feel better about they're own inadequacies...thats why i am so sensitive to my friends whom i love more than family being insulted...
[09:09] <kenby>  Any one recommends me a  download tools?
[09:09] <Astarte> By the time they have working drivers n stuff for this model, I'd have bought a new one already, and back to square one, hehe
[09:09] <jaime> u can adjest alot of things to save power
[09:09] <Astarte> jaime: No, very rarely
[09:09] <bluefoxx> humanity; god; you fail on a massive level today...
[09:10] <jaime> do you use compiz?
[09:10] <Parsec300> bluefoxx, you must be depressed? Although I see your point.
[09:10] <tuntun> inertial: really? what about: Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies - Installing without a CD drive or network capabilities from a hard drive.???
[09:10] <scguy318> kenby: download manager?
[09:10] <darkblueB> bluefoxx: its just one voice out of many.. dont be too hurt.. most people arent paying attention to just you ;-)
[09:10] <wols> !ot | bluefoxx
[09:10] <ubotu> bluefoxx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:10] <eckesicle> Okay. What if I change the PATH evvar...
[09:10] <jaime> artarte do you use compiz?
[09:11] <wols> darkblueB: I do now, due to all his stupid whining
[09:11] <kenby> scguy318:tools ,such as wget ,but faster than wget
[09:11] <Astarte> jaime: I did for a few days and got bored of it.
[09:11] <scguy318> kenby: not sure about faster, but there's d4x (Downloader for X)
[09:11] <scguy318> kenby: wget does its job very well
[09:11] <Dyus> are there any alternatives to xinerama and twinview for multi monitor/card setups?
[09:12] <jaime> artarte go system-perferences and power management preferences
[09:12] <Astarte> jaime: Tried that already. Can't reduce brightness from there either
[09:13] <jaime> go to through ur nvidia program
[09:13] <jaime> u can do it there and might work
[09:13] <kenby> scguy318:I have tried it ,not bad.but I prefer a command line tools
[09:14] <darkblueB> hmm fonts => deFoMa
[09:14] <Astarte> jaime: You mean nvidia-settings? yeah I can reduce it from there, but the screen looks weird if brightness is reduced from there, and the battery time remaining is still the same
[09:14] <scguy318> kenby: well, wget is it :)
[09:14] <jaime> wow
[09:15] <jaime> astarte whats ur model number for ur vaio?
[09:15] <Astarte> jaime: AR590E
[09:15] <bloodboy> hello, anybosy knows how to dual boot linux ubuntu and winxp MCE on the same HD wiothout changing the Windows MBR?
[09:15] <jaime> i saw something what you might like
[09:15] <bloodboy> and as i use a laptop, i have no floppy disk
[09:16] <darkblueB> bloodboy: get an external drive, save yourself some headache!
[09:16] <bloodboy> can GRUB boot loader be installed on a flash drive?
[09:16] <scguy318> bloodboy: yes
[09:16] <tuntun> !grub | bloodboy
[09:16] <ubotu> bloodboy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <bloodboy> ok, i need the commands to copy GRUB and initilise it from the flash drive
[09:17] <tuntun> i love doing that :D
[09:17] <jaime> astarte have u checked on energizer notebook battery?
[09:17] <jaime> http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=Ndi&q=energizer+sony+laptop+battery&um=1&ie=UTF-8
[09:17] <tuntun> !grub | bloodboy
[09:17] <ubotu> bloodboy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:17] <tuntun> ^^
[09:18] <bloodboy> ok, and where are the linux system driver files located?
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: driver? like?
[09:18] <bloodboy> is it at system32?
[09:18] <bloodboy> like USB drivers
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: ...I don't think so
[09:18] <bloodboy> ohciusb.sys?
[09:18] <scguy318> bloodboy: what driver?
[09:18] <bloodboy> ehciusb.sys?
[09:18] <bloodboy> USB drivers
[09:18] <bloodboy> for Ub untu
[09:19] <Sonja> africans invented fractals and the binary code: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/198
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: uhm...I don't think you need Windows drivers for Ubuntu?
[09:19] <bloodboy> nope
[09:19] <bloodboy> i need ubuntu drivers for USB?
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: no
[09:19] <bloodboy> i can't seem to open the files in windows
[09:19] <bloodboy> like exe files?
[09:19] <scguy318> bloodboy: what files?
[09:20] <scguy318> bloodboy: im sorry, I'm not quite understanding your questino
[09:20] <bloodboy> does linux have support for .exe files?
[09:20] <jaime> astarte are you still there?
[09:20] <bloodboy> like my Intel GMA graphics driver
[09:20] <Sonja> i think so. i can open exe files
[09:20] <kenby> bloodboy:wine
[09:20] <Astarte> jaime: Yeah, checking it out.
[09:20] <tuntun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:20] <scguy318> bloodboy: what about it?
[09:20] <bloodboy> cause i need to run game installers also
[09:21] <scguy318> bloodboy: oh, like run an EXE file? Wine
[09:21] <jaime> expensive but hey its something i will look forward
[09:21] <bloodboy> ok
[09:21] <bloodboy> checking wine out
[09:21] <scguy318> bloodboy: Windows drivers won't work at all on Ubuntu, however
[09:21] <icesword> have a good day,everyone,bye,looking forward to ubuntu 8.04
[09:21] <bluefoxx> and @jaime with 'girls are dumb': not true, i have met many grils that are'nt the best at everything but they are certanely not dumb; youre comment is [if at all] a crude attempt at humor, and exteremly sexist for what i would think to be a channel more mature than that - .-"
[09:21] <bluefoxx> about 90% of my friends are girls at the moment, and this is why, most guys are too crude and sexist like that for my liking, call me a wimp if you will but im more mature than that, take a jab at my family-of-friends an i will bite...
[09:21] <bluefoxx> my friends may not be as geeky as me with computers but they dont get to stay up to 5 in the morning messing around with computers, they dont all have the freedome that i have, i certanely am teaching them, and theyr smarter than that, they know alot of terms the average person will be confused by, and they are GIRLS, and they arent dumb at all, they do many thing for the world, just look it up on google sometime, if you can stand to
[09:21] <bluefoxx> sexism/racism and gender-bashing of any kind or form is wrong, ignorance like that often leads to wars, we need to respect one another, not hate eachother. no i am not a hippie, i am merely mature enough to realize this is the cause of the problems with socioty
[09:21] <bluefoxx> hate me all you want, i dont give a flying-rats-ass
[09:21] <jaime> anybody using energizer notebook battery?
[09:22] <Astarte> jaime: I don't see one for AR series though. Do you use one yourself? Does it give more backup?
[09:22] <bloodboy> who needs girls anyway?
[09:22] <jaime> nope i'm looking forward
[09:22] <bloodboy> girls are lame
[09:22] <bluefoxx> how do you like me now ubuntu?am i an ass?well to bad, accept me as i am or reject me if you will....i dont know you, doesnt matter to me, simply felt the need to get that out there
[09:23] <JimmyDee> ummm me
[09:23] <jaime> send energizer a message astarte
[09:23] <bluefoxx> - .-"
[09:23] <jaime> or google it
[09:23] <bluefoxx> assholes -.-"
[09:23]  * denny eyes the collection of twelve year olds
[09:23]  * denny goes to make breakfast
[09:23] <bloodboy> teh are no g1rls on the interwebs
[09:23] <JimmyDee> ummmm bluefox is going for a ride
[09:23] <scguy318> bloodboy: shove it
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> !stop
[09:23] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[09:23] <bluefoxx> more profe that you are all lame
[09:23] <scguy318> sigh
[09:24] <scguy318> bloodboy: anyway, what were you asking about earlier?
[09:24] <JimmyDee> btw tonyyarusso could you check and see when I'm banned out of offtopic till?
[09:24] <bluefoxx> all logged...
[09:24] <bloodboy> installing Ubuntu on the same hard drive as WinXP woithout changing the windows MBR
[09:24] <bloodboy> omg
[09:24] <bloodboy> my machine is overheating
[09:24] <JimmyDee> the cows are here, hell is chillin and I wanna come visit
[09:24] <bluefoxx> *deep sigh*
[09:24] <bluefoxx> humans phale
[09:24] <bloodboy> oh god
[09:25] <bluefoxx> /exit you all suck
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> How doyu change your color scheme
[09:25] <scguy318> bloodboy: well, I guess you could have your NTLDR chainload grub?
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> It says that the current controls will not let me change my color scheme
[09:25] <lalalalalalalala> And this default white is really icky
[09:25] <bloodboy> i havent actualy installed ubuntu yet
[09:25] <scguy318> bloodboy: well, what's wrong with GRUB on your MBR then?
[09:25] <wols> bloodboy: why don't you want to change the MBR to grub?
[09:26] <bloodboy> cause i need the default MBR
[09:26] <scguy318> bloodboy: why?
[09:26] <bloodboy> my dell system restore partition
[09:26] <bloodboy> i have a hidden dell system restore partition
[09:26] <jaime> astarte http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productList.asp?device=LAPT
[09:26] <wols> bloodboy: that's irrelevant
[09:26] <bloodboy> ok
[09:27] <wols> the first 446 bytes of your MBR and your restore partition don't interfere
[09:27] <bloodboy> so if GRUB takes over the MBR...
[09:27] <lalalalalalalala> Can anyone tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:27] <bloodboy> can i still use dell pc restore command?
[09:27] <bloodboy> u know, to return the PC to system default
[09:27] <bloodboy> will the BIOS still initiate
[09:28] <jaime> astarte found it that would work http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productdetail.asp?device=LAPT&prodcode=30972
[09:28] <jaime> astarte found it that would work http://www.energizerbatteries.com/productdetail.asp?device=LAPT&prodcode=30972
[09:28] <bloodboy> or respond to startup command?
[09:28] <bloodboy> plz
[09:28] <DrPepperL> hey
[09:28] <wols> bloodboy: if you install ubuntu correctly: yes. but: you should make a backup anyways
[09:28] <bloodboy> i really wanna try ubuntu
[09:28] <ljsmithx> Good!
[09:28] <bloodboy> ok
[09:28] <DrPepperL> i just installed ubuntu
[09:28] <bloodboy> whgen i partion
[09:28] <DrPepperL> nice OS
[09:28] <ljsmithx> GOOD!
[09:28] <wols> bloodboy: and you can backup the MBR too
[09:28] <bloodboy> will i hose my BNTFS windows partiotion?
[09:28] <jaime> astarte did you caught that one?
[09:29] <bloodboy> can u gimme link to backup MBR plz?
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> Can anyone tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:29] <Arelis> Hi all. Seems i removed my SSL libraries by accident. I can't connect to MSN anymore, now. How do i install them back?
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> It says 'current controls do not allow the changing of color schee' or something like that
[09:29] <JNN> Hello
[09:29] <lalalalalalalala> i find it hard to believe that in a channel of 1,000 people no one can tell me how to change my color scheme
[09:29] <patbam> hi, i suspect some problems wtih my hard drive, and i am told that there is a way to run a memory check from grub (i'm dual booting xp). is this true? how do i do it? (i can't find anything in the grub command line.)
[09:30] <Bloops> lalalala: you mean your desktop theme ?
[09:30] <cosme> go to your color scheme's duh
[09:30] <wols> patbam: memory test != harddisk test
[09:30] <wols> patbam: it's for, as the name says, a test for memory. RAM.
[09:30] <JNN> I wanna use ubuntu the first time but failed on the boot disk ^^
[09:30] <lalalalalalalala> it says 'the current control theme does not support color scheme'
[09:30] <cosme> make custom
[09:30] <sam__> anyone help me with some ubuntu for power pc problems
[09:30] <wols> and the grub prompt is not needed but it should be on the default menu
[09:30] <scguy318> Arelis: sudo aptitude install libgnutls13
[09:31] <wols> patbam: for testing harddisks, use smartmontools
[09:31] <scguy318> Arelis: think that's it
[09:31] <patbam> wols: what's "it"?
[09:31] <TylerJGillies> is it possible to get the binary data from a file and output it in ASCII 1's and 0's?
[09:31] <wols> patbam: memtest86
[09:31] <JNN> my pc doesn't accept the boot-cd
[09:31] <lalalalalalalala> hw do you make a new theme
[09:31] <jaime> jnn is it laptop or pc?
[09:31] <JNN> pc
[09:31] <jaime> have u tried dell
[09:31] <JNN> no
[09:31] <patbam> wols: ok thanks
[09:31] <jaime> reboot and get in ur bios
[09:31] <wols> TylerJGillies: of course it's possible. but why you'd want to is a bit puzzling
[09:32] <jaime> push dell
[09:32] <jaime> del
[09:32] <Bloops> lalalalala : are you using gnome or kde ?
[09:32] <JNN> ah, ok
[09:32] <JNN> ^^
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> gnome sucks balls
[09:32] <jaime> maybe f2
[09:32] <Arelis> scguy318: says it's already present
[09:32] <wers> wow. the latest clearlooks is really slow
[09:32] <JNN> ye, BIOS, i know
[09:32] <wers> lalalalalalalala, why? lol
[09:32] <jaime> lalalalala gnome is very nice once you fix'em up
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> wers, i cant change the fucking colors
[09:32] <lalalalalalalala> it wont allow me
[09:32] <sam__> jeez switchin OS's is like learning a new language
[09:33] <kenby> any one use fluxbox here?
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, it depends on the theme
[09:33] <jaime> thats easy
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> it just says 'the current control thingie does not allow changing color schemes'
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> wers, how do i create a new theme
[09:33] <JNN> jaime: what should I do in the BIOS?
[09:33] <TylerJGillies> wols: visual effect. do you know how to do it?
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, are you on gutsy?
[09:33] <lalalalalalalala> wers, if thats the newest one, then yes
[09:33] <wers> lalalalalalalala, go to the Controls tab in the customize window
[09:34] <wols> TylerJGillies: write a script. but i guess there already are a ton of matrix knockoffs out there
[09:34] <sam__> how do u install secondlife for ubuntu on powerpc
[09:34] <wers> choose another theme
[09:34] <Arelis> Hi all. Seems i removed my SSL libraries by accident. I can't connect to MSN anymore, now. How do i install them back?
[09:34] <wols> sam__: is there a client for PPC?
[09:34] <jaime> jnn look up the manual for ur motherboard
[09:34] <lalalalalalalala> wers, i want to make a new theme, how do i do that
[09:34] <wols> Arelis: dpkg -l |grep libssl
[09:34] <sam__> yes
[09:34] <jaime> give me ur brand and model of ur pc
[09:34] <sam__> wait, no
[09:34] <TylerJGillies> wols: so is that a no?
[09:34] <jaime> JNN
[09:34] <Bloops> lalalala: change the theme to clearlooks, it supports colour schemes
[09:35] <Arelis> wols: ii  libssl0.9.8                                0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1                    SSL shared libraries
[09:35] <wols> ssl is installed
[09:35] <wers> lalalalalalalala, i dont know as well. i'm not l33t enough. i just get themes from gnome-look.org
[09:35] <jahid> hi, can anyone tell me how can use grep command to find in all files for string "consignment" recursively? also i want to see where are the files located
[09:35] <wers> lalalalalalalala, gnome sucks balls just because you can't change the colors? lol
[09:35] <Arelis> wols: "SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library."
[09:35] <lalalalalalalala> wers, gnome sucks balls because its ugly
[09:35] <sam__> hmm
[09:35] <lalalalalalalala> wers, and hard to get how you want it to look
[09:36] <wols> Arelis: what client
[09:36] <Bloops> lalalalala: just go to gnome-look.org and install a theme.
[09:36] <Arelis> wols: "Pidgin will not attempt to reconnect the account until you correct the error and re-enable the account."
[09:36] <wers> haha. I agree. lalalalalalalala, the most decent themes are found are the latest clearlooks and the Nodoka theme
[09:36] <alanbshepard70> Where on my computer can I find a list of all packages that have been installed on my system? Does such a file exist? Is there one that only lists packages not included in a base ubuntu install?
[09:36] <jahid> i tried to use --------------->grep -i -h -n -r "consignment" *.xml
[09:36] <wers> they're not fancy but they're neat and usable
[09:36] <Myrtti> lalalalalalalala: anything constructive coming up?
[09:36] <jahid> but, it seems like, it is only looking in current directory, but not all
[09:37] <Flannel> alanbshepard70: dpkg -l
[09:37] <wols> alanbshepard70: dpkg -l |grep ^ii
[09:37] <sam__> how do u install secondlife for ubuntu on powerpc
[09:37] <lalalalalalalala> who kicked me
[09:37] <alanbshepard70> Flannel: wols: thanks
[09:37] <lalalalalalalala> and why
[09:37] <denny> jahid:
[09:37] <denny> oops
[09:38] <denny> jahid:  grep -r -c consignment * | grep -v ':0'
[09:38] <Myrtti> !language | wasitmynick
[09:38] <scguy318> sam__: you might be a bit out of luck, virtualization probably would be slow
[09:38] <denny> if you use *.xml then you'll only recurse into directories called something.xml
[09:38] <wers> wasitmynick, just behave. lmai
[09:38] <wers> lmao
[09:38] <ubotu> wasitmynick: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:38] <scguy318> sam__: they've a Linux i686 binary, nothing for PPC
[09:39] <sam__> no upgrade on graphics card?
[09:39] <sam__> wouldnt work?
[09:39] <wasitmynick> We can't say balls?
[09:39] <scguy318> sam__: no, unless you ran a VM, that would probably be slow and useless for Second Life
[09:39] <jaime> i need help on aMSN on my list the user in the list some have a red circle with a x what does that mean?
[09:39] <chraso> hello chennal
[09:39] <wasitmynick> Balls are fun and bouncy
[09:39] <wasitmynick> They come in different shapes and sizes
[09:39] <scguy318> sam__: i686 apps don't run on a PPC without emulation
[09:40] <sam__> scguy;; so no use in trying to run SL on a ibook
[09:40] <scguy318> sam__: as far as I know, no
[09:40] <stdin> !ot | wasitmynick
[09:40] <ubotu> wasitmynick: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:40] <raymondfranco> hi all
[09:40] <scguy318> sam__: if it was Intel in that iBook different story :)
[09:40] <sam__> scguy;; so i may as well switch back to mac?
[09:40] <scguy318> sam__: for your SL playing needs yes
[09:40] <sam__> scguy;; or am i SoL whichever OS i choose
[09:41] <Arelis> wols: "Pidgin will not attempt to reconnect the account until you correct the error and re-enable the account." <-- Using Pidgin
[09:41] <raymondfranco> guuys, i'm having some issues with sharing and setting up drives in 6.0.6, if ANYONE has ANY idea on how to help please let me know
[09:41] <scguy318> sam__: I'm not sure if their Mac OS X binary works on PPC
[09:41] <scguy318> sam__: you'd probably have to see
[09:41] <sam__> it doesnt
[09:41] <Astarte2> Got disconnected
[09:41] <scguy318> sam__: then sadly, it's SoL
[09:41] <sam__> scguy;; switching to windows might work
[09:41] <wols> Arelis: but libssl is the ssl lib
[09:41] <wols> !info pidgin
[09:41] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[09:41] <scguy318> sam__: Windows on PPC? wouldn't that be dead slow?
[09:42] <sam__> scguy;; possibly but worth a shot
[09:42] <scguy318> sam__: well, you can try that if you want, go for it
[09:42] <raymondfranco> anyone know a chatroom with support?
[09:42] <sam__> scguy;; lol
[09:42] <ronni1> [   47.416000] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled how do I prevent this so my wireless will work?
[09:43] <Slart> raymondfranco: this is it... perhaps you should explain a bit more what you want help with
[09:43] <scguy318> ronni1: what does that have to do with your wireless, if I may ask?
[09:43] <sam__> scguy;; one more question how do i check the my computers hardware on linux
[09:43] <scguy318> sam__: System -> Prefs -> Hardware Information
[09:43] <scguy318> sam__: or lshw, see man lshw
[09:44] <ronni1> scguy318: device 0000:03:00.0 is my AR5006EG wireless pci express card that uses madwifi driver
[09:44] <chraso> can someone tell me if the new drivers (latest build) from ati is 8.43 now availabel on ubuntu 7.10?
[09:44] <sam__> lshw?
[09:44] <scguy318> sam__: at the Terminal, list hardware
[09:44] <chraso> where do i get updates of ubuntu packages?
[09:44] <Slart> chraso: you might be able to check yourself at packages.ubuntu.com.. if noone here knows
[09:45] <scguy318> chraso: no, they're not available
[09:45] <raymondfranco> hi slart, well basically i have an ubuntu 6.06 machine, that i'm going to use as a media center. I have plugged in 320GB Externel IDE drive, formatted it fat32, got 4 folders inside which are shared, i can see the shares but cant access them
[09:45] <scguy318> chraso: you'll need to get those from the ATI site
[09:45] <scguy318> ronni1: anything from madwifi in dmesg?
[09:45] <raymondfranco> from within windows
[09:45] <chraso> so i can't update a piece
[09:45] <scguy318> ronni1: I'd think that would be the message of interest
[09:46] <chraso> instead i have to update the whole ubuntu?
[09:46] <scguy318> raymondfranco: you need to edit your Samba conf
[09:46] <Slart> raymondfranco: can't see them at all? or can see them but can't see the files inside? or can see shares and files but can't read contents?
[09:46] <raymondfranco> i did, is there somewhere i can post my smb.conf?
[09:46] <Buyydee> hey, is there an openoffice.org support channel?
[09:46] <Slart> !paste | raymondfranco
[09:46] <ubotu> raymondfranco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:47] <raymondfranco> if i double click the shared folded in ym network places, it says i dont have correct admin rights
[09:47] <Slart> Buyydee: I would be surprised if there wasn't.. have you tried #openoffice? or #ooo ?
[09:47] <ronni1> scguy318: well there is a message about ath_pci "[   47.388000] ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.3.2)". I found this info about the bug http://madwifi.org/ticket/838#comment:11 but it says it was fixed those after 0.9.2
[09:47] <scguy318> raymondfranco: you need to change the security = user line to security = shared I believe
[09:47] <Buyydee> Slart: yes, no-one there
[09:48] <raymondfranco> done that...
[09:48] <bahman> Hi all
[09:48] <Slart> Buyydee: check their site.. perhaps they have an irc-server of their own
[09:48] <scguy318> raymondfranco: have you restarted Samba?
[09:48] <raymondfranco> aha
[09:48] <bahman> How could I backup my drivers in ubuntu?!
[09:48] <scguy318> ronni1: mm, if madwifi does not work out for you, try ndiswrapper
[09:48] <Slart> bahman: backup your drivers? not drives?
[09:49] <bahman> Yeah ;) drivers!
[09:49] <ronni1> scguy318: what is odd i'm using ethernet yet lspci says its unknown and my eth is eth8 now but it was 6  then 7 and changes every boot
[09:49] <scguy318> ronni1: sounds familiar
[09:49] <scguy318> ronni1: tell me your laptop model?
[09:50] <Slart> I don't think drivers can be backuped.. drives can be backuped using all kinds of backup software.. depends on your demands, how large the drives are etc.. search for backup in synaptic
[09:50] <boinker> flash plugin doesnt work on firefox but it says its installed yet again it keeps asking me to install over and over whats going on?
[09:50] <ronni1> scguy318: anyone can use ndiswrapper for most cards but this card is fully supported according to manufacturer and madwifi docs
[09:50] <bahman> I wanna backup my ATI - grafic diver
[09:50] <bahman> could you help me
[09:50] <Slart> boinker: and you read the topic?
[09:50] <boinker> which topic
[09:50] <ronni1> bahman: you mean your xorg settings?
[09:50] <Slart> !topic
[09:50] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:51] <scguy318> ronni1: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[09:51] <boinker> slart: which topic
[09:51] <scguy318> ronni1: what laptop model are you?
[09:51] <ronni1> scguy318: sure
[09:51] <bahman> I'm a new user!
[09:51] <Greenery> !flash | boinker
[09:51] <ubotu> boinker: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:51] <Slart> !topic | boinker
[09:51] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[09:51] <bahman> whats xorg?!
[09:51] <ubotu> boinker: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:51] <boinker> oh i c thank u
[09:52] <scguy318> bahman: X.Org is the reference implementation of the X Window System, the graphical subsystem that Linux uses
[09:52] <boinker> is there another way of installing by anychance?
[09:52] <JNN> re
[09:52] <ronni1> scguy318: presario F756NR laptop
[09:52] <kid> guten morgen
[09:52] <chraso> do anyone know what is crossfire on my ati radeon xpress 200 chipset, as i can't understand what is crossfire tech.
[09:52] <raymondfranco> it says i'm spamming?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:52] <Slart> boinker: there probably is.. I think it's only a matter of adobe moving something around on their site.. I don't know how though.. perhaps there's some info in the forums
[09:52] <scguy318> raymondfranco: try submitting again
[09:52] <JNN> my pc doens't recognize the boot disk
[09:52] <scguy318> ronni1: gimme a sec for that eth issue
[09:53] <Slart> raymondfranco: you can only paste stuff a number of times a minute or so... then it calls you a spammer.. it happens.. take a cup of coffee =)
[09:54] <Buyydee> As the ooo.org homepage doesn't refer to a support channel either, I'm going to ask here. I'm using Gutsy and the Ubuntu-customised OOo v2.3.0 and am working on a spreadsheet with graphs. Now when I'm editing graphs and want to rename any labels, my cursor converts to the text editing cursor (the double T) but instead of going into text editing mode, I can only move the label around, although my cursor shows the double T. I haven't changed any sett
[09:54] <bahman> I have and also installed my grafic card in ubuntu, now is there any way to backup this driver in a CD or DVD
[09:54] <wols> bahman: which card is it?
[09:54] <bahman> ATI
[09:55] <scguy318> ronni1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583920&page=4 post #34
[09:55] <ronni1> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50695/ dmesg stuff
[09:55] <bahman> ATI - Graphic Card
[09:55] <wols> bahman: /var/cache/apt/archives/ look there for a file with "fglrx" in the name, if you use the fglrx driver
[09:56] <ronni1> JNN: sounds like you have the pins on your hard drive in wrong order or the wrong drive as master
[09:56] <scguy318> ronni1: well, "Hardware revision not supported"
[09:56] <scguy318> ronni1: you may have to use ndiswrapper, some AR5006EGs are actually AR5007EG
[09:56] <scguy318> ronni1: the status of the latter is a bit iffy I think
[09:57] <Slart> Buyydee: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication
[09:57] <uchazco> Hi... anyone know how to sync my Samsung F700 with Gusty? Wammu (?) can read battery and signal strength but wont read anything else...
[09:57] <erudified> Is there some simple way to copy an ubuntu installation to a larger partition?
[09:57] <Slart> Buyydee: and no.. I don't know the answer to your question.. I'm not throwing links at you because I'm mean =)
[09:58] <Buyydee> Slart: Thanks a lot :) I looked on www.openoffice.org and they didn't mention anything about IRC in their support area.
[09:58] <ronni1> scguy318: http://www.atheros.cz/
[09:59] <Slart> Buyydee: you're welcome.. I didn't find it on their site either.. but the wiki had some info
[09:59] <bahman> I couldnt find my graphic card dirver in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:00] <ronni1> scguy318: brb
[10:00] <bahman> I installed it form a program named Envy ->  http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[10:00] <wasitmynick> how do you setup emerald?
[10:00] <scguy318> !envy | bahman
[10:00] <ubotu> bahman: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:00] <wasitmynick> i installed it and i cant change the theme
[10:00] <Slart> wasitmynick: are you using compiz?
[10:01] <wasitmynick> Slart, i dont know, i just installed ubuntu and i ahve whatever is the default
[10:01] <Slart> wasitmynick: do you have the "desktop effects" enabled? wobbly windows and such eyecandy?
[10:01] <wasitmynick> Slart, yes
[10:02] <bahman> How could I see "/msg ubotu binarydriver"
[10:02] <bahman> I'm a new user! ;)
[10:02] <Jowi> wasitmynick, you need to use "emerald-theme-manager" to change theme
[10:03] <Slart> wasitmynick: then you're using compiz.. it the software that makes all that shiny stuff..  I tried editing my theme but the normal tools didn't work.. I think compiz is doing something on it's own..
[10:03] <Slart> wasitmynick: you can still change some basic stuff in system, preferences, appearance
[10:03] <Slart> bahman: just write it...without the ""
[10:03] <Hairufr> Hey all, how do I force mount a drive that has been locked by windows? Cheers
[10:04] <bahman> Thanks
[10:04] <Slart> bahman: /msg sends a private message.. it's used for private conversations.. ubotu is a bot.. ubotu responds to simple keywords.. such as !ati   !language and many others.. or you can talk to him in private
[10:05] <Slart> Hairufr: locked?
[10:05] <Slart> Hairufr: how did you try mounting it? you can add "-f" to the mount command if you're using the command line
[10:05] <Filled-Void> How do I extract the first two characters of a tail -n1 command?
[10:06] <wasitmynick> Slart, can i use emerald with beryl?
[10:06] <Hairufr> SlI tried mounting it normally, (standard mount all drives, it's an ntfs drive that has been locked by (surprise a faulty xp-installation)
[10:06] <Hairufr> *slart
[10:06] <Slart> wasitmynick: compiz-fusion is the new beryl.. don't use beryl any more
[10:06] <wasitmynick> Oh
[10:07] <wasitmynick> Well is there any way to get emerald to work then?
[10:07] <Slart> Hairufr: ok, try sudo mount -f -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1    change sda1 to whatever is correct in your case
[10:08] <Slart> wasitmynick: I don't know.. I didn't find anything that worked
[10:08] <Hairufr> slart, cool, gimme a sec :)
[10:11] <wasitmynick> Slart, you need to do emerald --replace
[10:11] <bahman> Really thanks :D
[10:11] <Slart> oh.. it was that easy.. sweet
[10:13] <bierzoherria> hola
[10:14] <bierzoherria> alquien me podria ayudar con el amule en el unubutu?
[10:15] <Slart> !es |  bierzoherria
[10:15] <ubotu> bierzoherria: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:15] <bierzoherria> gracias
[10:15] <bierzoherria> #unbutu-es
[10:16] <Slart>  /join #ubuntu-es
[10:16] <tarelerulz> I have  hear that ubuntu don't play wiht frame buffer well.  I am trying to play mplayer in a console. I use video out option of cvidix and nothing happens it say it can't find that driver ? anyone know what I might do get it to play in console
[10:17] <praveer_fedora> I am using ubuntu -server 7.10, I am getting this between line 320 and 338 in http://pastebin.com/m405b9b95, can anyone help?
[10:17] <Slart> I think nvidia cards have had some problems with the framebuffer.. they might have fixed it by now but I don't know.. I don't use it myself
[10:18] <praveer_fedora> I am unable to use my card eth2 as I cannot do ping -I eth2 127.0.0.1
[10:18] <Slart> praveer_fedora: have you tried adding the irqpoll option in grub?
[10:18] <Jowi> tarelerulz, try with -vo fbdev
[10:18] <praveer_fedora> Slart, I tried but no use
[10:19] <Slart> praveer_fedora: hmm.. that was my only suggestion =/
[10:19] <praveer_fedora> any one please, I need a solution desperately
[10:19] <ronni1> scguy318: tried something lame and wireless still not working however dmesg mentioned '[   13.626004] PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report" perhaps I could try doing that to get the wireless working?
[10:19] <stefano_> could someone write a little shell script for me?
[10:20] <n1mda> stefano_: what does it need to do?
[10:20] <ronni1> stefano: think there is a bash scripting channel, they're pretty helpful
[10:21] <NoFlag> if i'll install ubuntu with wubi, ubuntu won't be installed on other partition?
[10:21] <tarelerulz> jowi,  this is what  says "Can't open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory"
[10:21] <stefano_> n1mda, i use the program 'barcode' to create barcodes as eps files. i want to have a script that makes it easyer. i just want to call this script with a barcode as a parameter (eg 1234567890987) and have the script create a file with that name + .eps containing the ouptuts of the program
[10:22] <n1mda> simple... if I understand right, msg me :)
[10:23] <Jowi> tarelerulz, I actually did this 6 months ago. running console only and using mplayer. I must try to recall what I did to make it work...
[10:23] <stefano_> i call the program like this: first i create a temporary file containing the barcorde digits "echo 1234567890123 > temp.barcode" then i cann the program "barcode -i temp.barcode -E > barcodetest.eps"
[10:24] <Creed> Can someone on the West do a traceroute for me? Trying to see if Level3 is having routing issues.
[10:24] <tarelerulz> Jowi, I  did mplayer -vo fbev  , fbev2 and cvidix and got the same.  It is not  sintac problem I don't think
[10:25] <n1mda> well I'm gonna reboot to macosx for some musicproduction :) Cya guys!
[10:25] <stefano_> n1mda, i cannot msg you
[10:26] <wild_oscar> does anyone know how to fix a problem with 5.1 sound configuration, where there is a message saying "audio unavailable" when another device is using xine?
[10:26] <vincenz> Hello everyone.  Recently I swapped harddrives and reinstalled gutsy.  Except for a few hiccups, everything went fine.  Except for one problem.  When I upgraded from the cd to the latest packages on the net, my X would invariably keep breaking. If I reinstalled and did it again, I'd get the same.  I've slowly manually updated package by package, and it has led me to keep only the compiz packages.
[10:27] <vincenz> So I would assume that if the behaviour repeats, the bug is in the compiz packages
[10:28] <JoeFlennigan> Hi, how can I change my Encoding in Terminal. I want to change it to ISO-8859-15.
[10:29] <iveqy> hi, I try to set up a NIS server and a NIS client but i wont't work. How do i continue to find the error?
[10:29] <scguy318> JOeFlennigan: like the actor? um, not sure
[10:30] <vincenz> Is there a way to install those packages and if the bug shows up again to go to previous versions?
[10:30] <gumm1bear> helo
[10:30] <scguy318> JoeFlennigan: Terminal -> Set Character Encoding
[10:30] <vincenz> Or is there  a compiz expert that could help me fnd where the bug might reside if it manifests itself.  I do not wish to experiment with this and find I have to reinstall for the umpteenth time.
[10:31] <Jowi> tarelerulz, do you have framebuffer enabled in grub (like a VGA=791 in the kernel line)?
[10:31] <aaaahhhhhh> How do you get metacity to be the default window manager?
[10:31] <aaaahhhhhh> It keeps defaulting to emerald
[10:32] <JoeFlennigan> the problem is, if i restart the terminal it changes back to UTF-8
[10:32] <raymondfranco> how do i take off security in smb.conf?
[10:32] <tarelerulz>  Jowi I had vga=791  on the end of my kernel options in grub .  When I went into console every thing was all mixed up
[10:33] <Jowi> tarelerulz, define "mixed up"
[10:33] <tarelerulz> Jowi, there was colors on the screen ,but nothing that looked like text at all
[10:33] <scguy318> JoeFlennigan: in that I am not sure unfortunately, why do you need to change?
[10:34] <Creed> Can someone on the West do a traceroute for me? Trying to see if Level3 is having routing issues.
[10:34] <Jowi> tarelerulz, so now you do not have framebuffer enabled?
[10:35] <tarelerulz> Yes I deleted the vga 791 from the end of the kernel
[10:35] <Jowi> tarelerulz, that might be why fb0 does not exist...
[10:35] <scguy318> Creed: to where?
[10:35] <scguy318> Creed: I don't count but I'm curious
[10:35] <Jowi> tarelerulz, did you try the -vo vesa yet?
[10:35] <Creed> scguy318, 69.12.88.20
[10:36] <Creed> scguy318, well lol can you do it anyway? I just want to see from where it works and where it doesnt.
[10:36] <tarelerulz> Jowi , I have not try that yet
[10:36] <scguy318> Creed: sure
[10:36] <JoeFlennigan> because I want to work on a ssh server, that needs ISO, and I am tired of changing the encoding everytime I start the terminal
[10:37] <vincenz> Anyone?
[10:37] <Slart> JoeFlennigan: can't you change the profile?
[10:37] <Slart> JoeFlennigan: or encoding isn't part of the profile?
[10:38] <Jowi> tarelerulz, sorry, should be svga. not vesa
[10:38] <Creed> vincenz, someone in #ubuntu-effects might be better suited to help you.
[10:38] <vincenz> Thank you Creed
[10:38] <Slart> JoeFlennigan: nevermind that.. it isn't..  I'll go back to my corner now =)
[10:38] <scguy318> JoeFlennigan: oh, dunno, remove the UTF-8 encodnig?
[10:39] <JoeFlennigan> i've been looking in the profile tool, but there is no possibility to save it
[10:39] <JoeFlennigan> or to change it
[10:39] <JoeFlennigan> remove... lol
[10:39] <scguy318> Creed: I'm not going through Level3 apparently, do you want me to paste?
[10:40] <tarelerulz> jowi, I used that and I got this "svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions"
[10:40] <raymondfranco> anyone know how to take off security in smb.conf?
[10:40] <Creed> scguy318, sure
[10:41] <blah569> I am a huge windows user, the majority of my stuff I do is Windows bassed, but I absolutly love Linux (I use it occasionally), but I've never used Linux at the dominate OS.  Sabayon looks absolutly awesome, and I am just wondering is someone knows of a list of reasons to use Linux as the primary OS.  Btw, I have read through http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net.
[10:42] <blah569> I am a huge windows user, the majority of my stuff I do is Windows bassed, but I absolutly love Linux (I use it occasionally), but I've never used Linux at the dominate OS.  Sabayon looks absolutly awesome, and I am just wondering is someone knows of a list of reasons to use Linux as the primary OS.  Btw, I have read through http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net.
[10:42] <scguy318> don't spam :P
[10:42] <Slart> JoeFlennigan: if I were you I'd start looking for a way to start gnome-terminal with a specified encoding.. and create a new shortcut
[10:42] <scguy318> Creed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50698/
[10:42] <scguy318> blah569: I'd say because it's free
[10:42] <blah569> Lol, well moeny isn't really an issue for me.
[10:42] <scguy318> blah569: as in beer, and as in speech, and, well, no DRM bs
[10:42] <Creed> thank you scguy318
[10:42] <inertial> is the encrypted filesystem in
[10:42] <inertial> er
[10:43] <inertial> is the encrypted filesystem installer on the 7.10 desktop iso or only the 7.10 alternate iso?
[10:43] <JoeFlennigan> that's a nice idea, thank you
[10:43] <Slart> blah569: it's free, I can sleep at night without antivirus, antispyware, antibloatware, antimalware. It's updated regularly
[10:44] <snurre> i wouldnt say being free is linux' best selling point.. well, at least not to me.. finding free copies of windows is probably easier than getting even ubuntu installed properly :p
[10:44] <Slart> blah569: I couldn't afford keeping up with licenses for all my computers for each new version of windows/office etc
[10:44] <scguy318> snurre: well, but Linux is legal :P
[10:45] <inertial> snurre: i'd have to say that ubuntu detects hardware more correctly than winxp
[10:45] <wild_oscar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387058&highlight=audio+unavailable+xine
[10:45] <snurre> inertial: and vista
[10:45] <wild_oscar> "The solution is go to the KDE Control Center under Sound System, there's an Auto-Suspend setting that defaults to 60 seconds. Put to 1 seconds."
[10:45] <scguy318> snurre: pirated Windows just isn't barely legal :P
[10:45] <snurre> scguy318: well, if i cared.. then it mightve been an issue :p
[10:46] <sabaki> can anyone here point me to a good howto document on building ubuntu packages from source?
[10:46] <wild_oscar> does anyone know where the "auto-suspend setting" is on gnome?
[10:46] <snurre> im only using oem win installs anyway, so not like they can do anything about it :p
[10:46] <simmerz> does elinks in ubuntu support javascript?
[10:46] <wild_oscar> sabaki: there is an extensive one on the ubuntuforums
[10:46] <Slart> blah569: oh.. and of course.. I don't have to prove that I have a real, legal copy of windows/office/... just because I want to download an update or two
[10:47] <inertial> how do i get the cube view in compiz?
[10:47] <sabaki> wild_oscar > any idea where or what it is called?
[10:47] <scguy318> inertial: turn on rotate cube plugin
[10:48] <sabaki> wild_oscar > thanks... in development and programming... thanks
[10:49] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Hello, I need some help :/
[10:49] <JimmyDee> whaddya want?
[10:49] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Mine Sound Card Drivers AC'97 dont works
[10:49] <Blu3pr1nt> Hey guys... Ive still got en big problem with my 4965Wifi-Card.....I am using ubuntu 7.10...does anyone can help me??????
[10:49] <JimmyDee> www.realtek.tw
[10:49] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok
[10:50] <JimmyDee> www.ubuntu.com
[10:50]  * vincenz sighs
[10:50] <wild_oscar> sabaki: no, it was some weeks ago...
[10:50] <wild_oscar> sabaki: welcome ;)
[10:50] <Blu3pr1nt> I tried iwlwifi...but it doenst work... :-(
[10:50] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> JimmyDee: this site dont works..
[10:50] <Blu3pr1nt> ive got this problem for some month now!! :'(
[10:50] <JimmyDee> gimme a sec
[10:51] <mozboz> i just added a VPN, and all docs say that it should now appear, when I left click the network icon, but it doesn't?
[10:51] <JimmyDee> Gustavo_Rodrigue: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[10:51] <aretter> oin #codeazur
[10:52] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok ok :DDD thanks, I'll try
[10:53] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok, I downloaded
[10:53] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> and unpacked
[10:53] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> I'm Runing INSTALL
[10:54] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> lets see what happens...
[10:54] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: you don't have to tell us every little step..
[10:54] <vincenz> How do I turn off compiz ?
[10:54] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> :P ok ok
[10:54] <abhi_> where can i find the apache startup script? :(
[10:55] <Jordan_U> vincenz: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[10:55] <vincenz> Jordan_U: what if I can't access X?
[10:55] <Jordan_U> vincenz: Can you get to the GDM login screen?
[10:56] <vincenz> Jordan_U: Well for now my system works completely
[10:56] <DeFii> hi all, i cannot access my linux box from my windows pc using the linux box's hostname, only the ip address. does anyone know why?
[10:56] <Sopor> ctrl + alt + return for GDM screen
[10:56] <vincenz> Jordan_U: but I am certain once I update my compiz packages, I will be able to get to GDM but not to gnome
[10:56] <denny> DeFii: no DNS entry, presumably
[10:56] <vincenz> Jordan_U: I've had this behaviour twice before and had to reinstall
[10:56] <|ns|nR8> add a entry into your hosts file DeFii..easy
[10:57] <yagami_light0> Morning !
[10:57] <abhi_> where can i find the apache startup script?
[10:57] <DeFii> on the windows pc?
[10:57] <DeFii> :S
[10:57] <|ns|nR8> yes
[10:57] <Jordan_U> vincenz: Certainly no need to reinstall because of that, you can start a failsafe gnome session from the GDM login screen, or disable compiz from the terminal
[10:57] <wols> abhi_: /etc/init.d/apache
[10:57] <|ns|nR8> DeFii C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
[10:57] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Slart: so, I runned the INSTALL, but nothing happens...
[10:57] <|ns|nR8> on xp
[10:57] <vincenz> Jordan_U: I checked appearance, it seems to be turned off tho.  So I don't get it.
[10:58] <DeFii> |ns|nR8: how come you dont need to do that for windows pcs?
[10:58] <wols> DeFii: what is your DNS server on the windows box?
[10:58] <wols> DeFii: cause windows has a service that maps NETBIOS names to TCP names. totally nonstandard
[10:58] <|ns|nR8> because they use netbios names DeFii
[10:58] <Jowi> who was the one with missing /dev/fb0 (mplayer console)?
[10:58] <|ns|nR8> or register the name using WINS
[10:58] <DeFii> wols: there isnt one on the ethernet card
[10:58] <chazco> Anyone know how I can sync my Samsung F700 with Gusty?
[10:58] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: I can't help you with stuff you downloaded off the net somewhere.. stick to what's in the repos if you want easier support
[10:59] <DeFii> ok, i understand |ns|nR8
[10:59] <wols> DeFii: answer my question please. don't talk nonsense
[10:59] <Jordan_U> vincenz: So what exactly is the problem? You have compiz installed but not enabled and when you update it it tries to start but fails even though it shouldn't have tried to start in the first place?
[10:59] <DeFii> i did?
[10:59] <|ns|nR8> DeFii windows machines constant broadcast their netbios name
[10:59] <wols> DeFii: yes
[10:59] <|ns|nR8> thats why you cant have 2 windows machines on the same LAN with the same name
[10:59] <vincenz> Jordan_U: Yes
 wols: there isnt one on the ethernet card
[10:59] <vincenz> Jordan_U: it's the only packages that aren't updated
[10:59] <vincenz> Jordan_U: when I update, gnome freezes on login
[11:00] <vincenz> Jordan_U: it flashes the bars a few times and then freezes and my Hd goes way up
[11:00] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Slart:  look, I got a AC'97 Sound Card, but, mine Ubuntu (7.10) dont make ANY sound :/ I need some help  :/
[11:00] <wols> DeFii: what is the DNS server your windows PC uses?
[11:00] <vincenz> Jordan_U: it must be compiz, it's the only packages left I haven't updated
[11:00] <wols> DeFii: the answer to that certainly isn't ethernet card related
[11:00] <Jordan_U> vincenz: What happens when you login in a failsafe-gnome session?
[11:00] <vincenz> Jordan_U: I shall install them now
[11:00] <vincenz> wish me luck
[11:00] <DeFii> uhm, there isnt one on the ethernet card? there is only a dns server on the pppoe connection for internet
[11:00] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: what chipset is it? is it on your motherboard? can you find the card in the long list that "lspci" outputs?
[11:01] <Jordan_U> vincenz: If you don't have another computer get irssi so you can get help without X
[11:01] <DeFii> does that answer your question wols?
[11:01] <vincenz> compiz, compiz-core, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-gnome, compiz-plugins, libdecoration0
[11:01] <vincenz> those are the ones I'm updating to 1:0.6.2
[11:01]  * vincenz is using irssi in screen
[11:02] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Slart: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[11:02] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Motherboard Gigabyte GA-VM800PMC
[11:02] <chazco> Do any mobile devices work with Ubuntu...? :(
[11:02] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: what does "cat /proc/asound/cards" tell you?
[11:02] <|ns|nR8> wols im new here, can you tell me how people get their ubuntu member hostname instead of ip address showing
[11:02] <denny> when I try to turn on desktop effects, my screen flashes a couple of times and then I get a pop-up telling me 'desktop effects could not be enabled' - what should I check?  I'm using the nvidia drivers.
[11:02] <vincenz> Jordan_U: ok, should I do a full reboot or just ctrl+backspace?
[11:03] <Jordan_U> vincenz: just ctrl+alt+bckspace
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue>  0 [V8237          ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue>                       VIA 8237 with unknown codec at 0xbc00, irq 20
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> this
[11:03] <Slart> |ns|nR8: doesn't that network auto thingy.. avahi do something about that?
[11:03] <denny> |ns|nR8: you'd need to ask for a project cloak - I don't know what the rules are for getting them in this project
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Slart:  0 [V8237          ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue>                       VIA 8237 with unknown codec at 0xbc00, irq 20
[11:03] <Gustavo_Rodrigue>  this here
[11:03] <|ns|nR8> no idea Slart
[11:03]  * vincenz scratches his head
[11:03] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: got it
[11:03] <|ns|nR8> ah ok, thanks denny
[11:03] <vincenz> I don't get it, I did the update twice from an install cd, once from starting all the way with LTS.  Always clean install, X always froze, always same behaviour, now it works
[11:04] <vincenz> It's what kept me from updating so long
[11:04] <Jordan_U> vincenz: You can also always run "metacity --replace" to get rid of compiz temporarily, why did you think you needed to re-install?
[11:04] <DeFii> ok well thanks for ur help |ns|nR8 :)
[11:04] <vincenz> Jordan_U: I couldn't get into X, gnome would freeze, if I switched to some random other wm, it would kill itself and go back to gdm
[11:04] <vincenz> Jordan_U: it was due to an updated package, noone knew why
[11:05] <Jordan_U> vincenz: So it was not a compiz problem per se but it was a problem caused / triggered by an update to the compiz packages ?
[11:06] <Jordan_U> vincenz: Did you try simply running "startx" and bypassing GDM ?
[11:06] <vincenz> Jordan_U: it was one of the update packages, I figured it was compiz since that waas the last one that wasn't updated yet.
[11:06]  * vincenz shakes
[11:06] <Jowi> who was the one with missing /dev/fb0 (mplayer console)? If you read this. enabling vga=791 (or other resolution) creates it. if that does not work for you you might want to use vesafb in grubs menu.lst (google it)
[11:06] <vincenz> Jordan_U: logs showed nothing, tho
[11:07] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Slart: anything? :/
[11:07] <vincenz> Well on the upside, everything works fine, but still a bit flabbergasted
[11:07] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: still looking
[11:07] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok
[11:07] <|ns|nR8> DeFii youi can add can add entry to your hosts file at command line 'type linuxcomputername ipaddress >> C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts'
[11:08] <DeFii> yeah, thanks, i opened the file and added it manually, works fine :)
[11:08] <|ns|nR8> no worries
[11:10] <oldude67> hey does sound work with virtual box? or is it used by the main host?
[11:10] <fallore> hello everyone
[11:10] <scguy318> oldude67: inside the guest? its hould I think
[11:11] <Slart> Gustavo_Rodrigue: didn't find anything about that error.. perhaps you could ask in #alsa .. it's a bit quiet in there but they usually wake up once a day or something
[11:11] <oldude67> scguy318: ok ill check it out thanks
[11:12] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok, thanks man!
[11:19] <RaDa-X> Hello friends!
[11:19] <RaDa-X> = /
[11:21] <RaDa-X> ...
[11:24] <mrtimdog> Hi, does anyone use phpgroupware and know of a solution to a blank page for login.php?
[11:26] <jadoman> bonne année à toute la communauté linuxienne
[11:26] <scguy318> !fr | jadoman
[11:26] <ubotu> jadoman: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:27] <rich__> hey fokas
[11:27] <auskadi> anyone help me with what package i need too access this http://callista.deakin.edu.au
[11:27] <rich__> im trying to mkfs and i get device busy or in use, and yes its umounted
[11:29] <rich__> i will be eternally gratful as i need to back up some data urgently.
[11:29] <wers> why isn't the latest pidgin in the official repos yet/
[11:29] <Jordan_U> rich__: What are you trying to do exactly?
[11:29] <auskadi> anyone help me with what package i need too access this http://callista.deakin.edu.au
[11:29] <auskadi> its is ome java or oracle thing
[11:30] <auskadi> sorry ome = some
[11:30] <rich__> make a filesystem on an external hdd
[11:30] <Jordan_U> wers: Because the repositories don't get updated between releases except for security and critical bug fixes
[11:30] <Skittles> wers, because it's a "new version" and not a security fix
[11:30] <drewby> Can I find Curses/Application.pm in the ubuntu repositories?
[11:30] <wers> ooooh
[11:30] <wers> nice
[11:30] <khermans> drewby, is it in CPAN?
[11:30] <rich__> i have four other caddies that work, but maxtor, seagate and WD say device busy or in use
[11:30] <Jordan_U> rich__: Gparted?
[11:30] <drewby> khermans: I'll take a look
[11:32] <auskadi> hello
[11:32] <chazco> I'd like to install Windows onto a second HDD (until Ubuntu works fully for me)... whats the best way to do this?
[11:33] <khermans> !hi | auskadi
[11:33] <ubotu> auskadi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:33] <auskadi> khermans, hi i nned help with this web page- i think its an oracle thing
[11:33] <drewby> khermans: I don't see it....
[11:34] <rich__> no joy with gparted, i can partition it ok, but not make the filesystem
[11:34] <khermans> chazco, safely? disconnect the power from the second drive and leave the first one connected
[11:34] <drewby> khermans: I'm a little new to perl, and I don't exactly have time to learn all the ins and outs of it
[11:34] <khermans> drewby, then comile from souce
[11:34] <auskadi>  http://callista.deakin.edu.au
[11:34] <khermans> auskadi, what is the issue?
[11:34] <chazco> You mean effectivly hide the Linux drive from the Windows setup?
[11:34] <khermans> chazco, yes :-)
[11:34] <khermans> i said thats the safest, not the most efficient
[11:34] <auskadi> khermans, when i open the page it has a install plug in icon but i click nothing hapepns
[11:34] <chazco> Thats one way i'd have never thought of... sounds simple but effective :)
[11:34] <khermans> 100% guarantee you wont lose your dtaa
[11:35] <drewby> khermans: compile what from source?
[11:35] <chazco> Its more of a case of losing grub thats got me
[11:35] <auskadi> i presume as i might need to play with oracle but dont ahve any idea where to start
[11:35] <auskadi> i wanted someone just to open the page and tell me what they think i need
[11:35] <auskadi> maybe http://linux.togaware.com/survivor/Getting_Oracle.html but im guessing
[11:36] <khermans> drewby, Curses::Application is in CPAN -- i just checked
[11:36] <khermans> i just installed it
[11:36] <auskadi> khermans,  can u ust open this url and look?
[11:36] <auskadi>  http://callista.deakin.edu.au
[11:36] <khermans> auskadi, oracle.com?
[11:36] <auskadi> no http://callista.deakin.edu.au
[11:37] <auskadi> is it an oracle plug in -
[11:37] <khermans> auskadi, im not going to random urls
[11:37] <auskadi> its not random im aksing for advice
[11:37] <auskadi> its a university site i need to acces tonight if i can
[11:37] <khermans> auskadi, why do you think you ned oracle?
[11:37] <rich__> any ideas Jordan?
[11:37] <auskadi> becausse the tab says oraacle
[11:37] <khermans> auskadi, have you considered postgres or mysql or sqlite ?
[11:37] <auskadi> the page just ahs install plugin
[11:37] <drewby> oh I see khermans, I'm new to perl
[11:37] <rich__> any ideas Jordan?
[11:38] <chazco> Anyone know how to sync my Samsung F700 with Ubuntu? If not, how to sync a PocketPC that Synce doesnt like?
[11:38] <khermans> drewby, sudo cpan
[11:38] <auskadi> khermans,  i dont know what to consider thats why im asking for someone to look at that page and advise me
[11:38] <auskadi> is that a problem?
[11:38] <khermans> chazco, perhaps bitpim ?
[11:38] <Jordan_U> rich__, ?
[11:38] <asc> Anybody with magic skills know of a command for "delete lines x through y in [file]" or "find [string] and delete the next X lines in [file]"?
[11:38] <khermans> chazco, but i think there is a specific pocketpc sync app
[11:38] <emry> How do I make the end and home keys work propperly in a console/terminal window?
[11:38] <chazco> Tried every app i could find in the repos... no luck... kmobiletools (i think it was) was able to read some data, but not the calender
[11:38] <rich__> how to get around this device busy or in use issue with mkfs
[11:39] <chazco> khermans - That'll be synce, which doesnt work for me :(
[11:39] <oldude67> auskadi, try installing adobe flashplayer
[11:39] <khermans> asc, how about sed
[11:39] <auskadi> ive got it
[11:39] <auskadi> oldude67, i have flash
[11:39] <oldude67> thats all it says you need to me
[11:39] <oldude67> hold on ill check and see for sure
[11:39] <auskadi> oldude67, maybe your right im using galeon right now
[11:39] <NeanT> anybody knows why I can't add CUE files into Audacious (1.4.3) ?
[11:40] <auskadi> oldude67, thanks
[11:40] <asc> khermans: That's my backup plan. ;p
[11:40] <wers> do you suggest installinng pidgin 2.3 from getdeb or should I settle with the pidgin that comes with gutsy?
[11:41] <khermans> wers, not if you dont absolutely need the features
[11:41] <wers> ooh. okay. I guess, i'm settling with the pidgin from the repos
[11:41] <auskadi> oldude67, http://apus.its.deakin.edu.au:8103/forms/prod?config=callista&form=menu.fmx
[11:41] <auskadi> what is .fmx
[11:43] <larson9999> i haven't watched one show in regular tv since i set up this mythbuntu box :)
[11:43] <bullgard4> $ uname -r; 2.6.22-14-generic." I have got two directories /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4 and /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 with almost the same contents. Why do both of them exist?
[11:43] <khermans> bullgard4, is one a symlink to the other?
[11:43] <bullgard4> khermans: no.
[11:44] <khermans> bullgard4, well maybe 2.6.22 is the base, and .4 is all patches since then
[11:44] <auskadi> my battery is gonna die - oldude67 if it does ill be back l8r
[11:45] <bullgard4> khermans: I'd like to know the exact answer. One is not the base of the other.
[11:45] <oldude67> auskadi, wasnt flash
[11:46] <rich__> useless
[11:47] <khermans> bullgard4, are you sure /usr/src/linux is not just the headers?
[11:47] <bullgard4> khermans: yes, definitely. headers are in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22.14.generic.
[11:48] <khermans> thats right
[11:48] <emry> I'm wandering off now.  ^^::
[11:48] <khermans> i didnt know if yo were getting confused
[11:48] <khermans> bullgard4, you know about packages.ubuntu.com right?
[11:48] <khermans> and apt-file ?
[11:49] <bullgard4> khermans: I am not familiar with apt-file. I am familiar with using Synaptic.
[11:49] <khermans> bullgard4, check out apt-file
[11:50] <bullgard4> khermans: I have used packages.ubuntu.com occasionally. I prefer sudo apt-file update && apt-file search <filename> because packages.ubuntu.com is ambiguous in its wording.
[11:50] <khermans> bullgard4, you just said you were not familiar with apt-file
[11:50] <khermans> use apt-file to solve your own problem
[11:50] <bullgard4> khermans: Why should I check out apt-file? I have been using Synaptic successfully up to now.
[11:51] <khermans> apt-file has nothing to do with synaptic
[11:51] <khermans> you mean you use synaptic to query package contents?
[11:51] <bullgard4> khermans: Can you state reasons why I should check out apt-file.
[11:52] <bullgard4> khermans: Yes I do use Synaptic for that purpose.
[11:52] <khermans> bullgard4, you can find all files and what packages they belong to
[11:52] <khermans> it would not be hard to determine your issue this ay
[11:53] <ceppa> ciaO
[11:54] <Ausmosis> G'day. Can someone tell me if it's possible to use Ekiga to video conference with someone using Mac OSX and iChat?
[11:55] <slash|crisis> Ausmosis, what protocol? SIP?
[11:55] <Ausmosis> I'm not sure what protocol iChat uses actually
[11:55] <Ausmosis> it would be SIP on my end
[11:55] <khermans> Ausmosis, google seems to show nothing, but i didnt look too hard
[11:55] <slash|crisis> Ausmosis, find it out ;) if it uses SIP then it should work
[11:56] <n1mda> hellu
[11:56] <khermans> Ausmosis, wikipedia says it is SIP compliant
[11:57] <Ausmosis> cool..... I'll try and find out some more info. I do know you can set up an account with bonjour using iChat. Is that possible with Ekiga?
[11:57] <Ausmosis> interesting!... Thank's khermans :)
[11:57] <brk3> Hi, I just formatted my new external harddrive using gparted to ext3, and nautilus is reporting that 23.5gigs are used. How can this be?
[11:57] <n1mda> quick question. I connect my digital camera to ubuntu, and it says a camera was detected and I select to import the photos, but nothing happens. I can not see the camera in fdisk -l but in lsusb
[11:57] <khermans> Ausmosis, np
[11:57] <Suva> n1mda: It probably isn't UMS device
[11:58] <khermans> brk3, could you be lookging at the wrong device/
[11:58] <n1mda> how can I find where it's located?
[11:58] <Suva> n1mda: You need to use some gphoto frontend
[11:58] <linux4me> how do i install the humanoid desktop them for ubuntu 7.10?
[11:58] <linux4me> *theme
[11:58]  * syc_ brb, bikin kopi
[11:58] <khermans> n1mda, check dmesg?
[11:58] <brk3> khermans: no I dont think I am, it is listed as 435GB free when it should be 465GB
[11:58] <khermans> brk3, oh that is somehting
[11:58] <n1mda>  new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[11:59] <khermans> brk3, drive manuf sold you on gibibytes
[11:59] <khermans> brk3, are you sure you ar enot computing your GB correctly?
[11:59] <brk3> khermans: Well, officially it is 500GB but I know they are always a little under. I just dont know why nautilus is reporting it as so much used
[12:00] <khermans> oh used spac
[12:00] <khermans> brk3, that is weird
[12:00] <khermans> do you see any files on the device?
[12:00] <khermans> brk3, try checking with the baobab utility
[12:00] <brk3> khermans: here is a screenshot.. http://brk3box.servebeer.com/screenshot1.png
[12:01] <Lym_> When I try to install flashplugin-nonfree, it installs, but during the install it says something about the md5 checksum not matching and that flash was not installed
[12:01] <Lan> Hi, first time here...
[12:01] <wols> !flash > Lym_
[12:01] <khermans> Lym_, thats a known bug
[12:01] <n1mda> so how would I manually mount my camera?
[12:01] <Lym_> !flash
[12:01] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:01] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[12:02] <gidna> Hi
[12:02] <ljsmithx> hey!
[12:02] <ljsmithx> Does ubuntu have a myspace page?!
[12:02] <Lym_> But I just installed flash somewhere else flawlessly
[12:02] <khermans> ljsmithx, i have added Ubuntu on mine
[12:02] <brk3> n1mda: if you go to places->computer does it show there no..?
[12:02] <Lym_> While I was doing the install, I installed flash
[12:02] <gidna> i've installaed gnash but it doesn't play this video http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/11/13/how-to-stream-video-online-for-free/
[12:02] <ljsmithx> cool!
[12:02] <chook> svp pour le logiciel Evolution,comment faire pour mettr une icone sur la barre de tache
[12:02] <gidna> what I have to do?
[12:02] <ikonia> ljsmithx: ubuntu is an operating system. Why would it require a myspace page
[12:02] <ljsmithx> linkydoodle?
[12:02] <ikonia> Lym_: flash won't work.
[12:03] <ljsmithx> Well nVidia are a company and they have one lol
[12:03] <khermans> http://www.myspace.com/kristianhermansen
[12:03] <gidna> it plays youtube's videos...
[12:03] <chook> ?french room ?
[12:03] <ljsmithx> mine is quite small lol
[12:03] <n1mda> brk3 noh, its not mounted anywhere...
[12:03] <Lym_> ikonia, but it just did ten minutes ago when i was using the livecd
[12:03] <ikonia> Lym_: because that has version 9 on the livecd as I understand it
[12:03] <Lan> Hi everyone, I am having truble to setup ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 as guest system in virtualbox. My screen is on 800*600. tried everything, still couldn't set it to higher resolution...
[12:03] <brk3> n1mda: try installed gphoto or f-spot, Im pretty sure one of those will pick it up
[12:03] <Lym_> ikonia, then how do i get version 9
[12:03] <chook> no 1 speak speaak fr plz
[12:04] <ikonia> Lym_: it doesn't exist any more
[12:04] <ikonia> !fr | chook
[12:04] <ubotu> chook: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:04] <Lym_> ikonia, and i had to download and install it using apt
[12:04] <chook> !fr
[12:04] <khermans> Lan, this may be limited by the virtual hardware device driver
[12:04] <chook> oh ok thanx
[12:04] <khermans> Lan, i am not sure about virtualbox, but vmware has a tools package for th guest os
[12:04] <Lym_> ikonia, and i installed ubuntu on another computer a few hours ago and it worked fine
[12:05] <ikonia> Lym_: I find that hard to believe. But what ever you say
[12:06] <Lym_> ikonia, well is there any way i can get it to work?
[12:06] <ikonia> Lym_: not at the moment through an ubuntu package
[12:06] <BloodyScum> im trying to extract a .rar file, but every time i do it gives me this error "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)"
[12:07] <n1mda> brk3: I can confirm that f-spot is picking up my camera sucessfully :)
[12:07] <n1mda> thanks alot
[12:07] <khermans> bloodboy, using rar or unrar-nonfree ?
[12:07] <MTraker> hi
[12:07] <khermans> bloodboy, try 7zip
[12:07] <Lan> Thx khermans. I had a look of vmvare, is vmware player the one I should download and install?
[12:07] <brk3> n1mda: great :)
[12:08] <khermans> Lan, no -- try vmware server
[12:08] <khermans> 1.x
[12:08] <Globo> por favor alguem pode me dizer, se o UOl fone funciona no ubuntu?
[12:08] <khermans> !hi | MTraker
[12:08] <ubotu> MTraker: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:08] <Lan> is it free or a 30 days trail?
[12:08] <Lan> for personal use
[12:08] <khermans> Lan, free with email registration
[12:08] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> HELP! PLEASE!
[12:09] <khermans> !help | Gustavo_Rodrigue
[12:09] <ubotu> Gustavo_Rodrigue: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:09] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> I got a Error with AC97 SOUND CARD
[12:09] <Lan> cool! I will try it out. Thank you!
[12:09] <MTraker> i've a intel chipset gm965 amd crash blender when i render a scene.
[12:09] <khermans> Lan, np
[12:09] <BloodyScum> khermans rar
[12:09] <khermans> bloodboy, try 7z
[12:09] <MTraker> I was search in google but i don't see the solution
[12:09] <Farmer86> hell all
[12:10] <Farmer86> hello*
[12:10] <khermans> MTraker, try running blender with debug output if possible
[12:10] <khermans> !hi | Farmer86
[12:10] <ubotu> Farmer86: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:10] <igcek> hello. anybody knows any good program to capture dvd movie?
[12:10] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> PUTA QUE PARIO!
[12:10] <khermans> igcek, convert dvd?
[12:10] <MTraker> khermans but if i install compiz (run ok) when i render, crash X
[12:10] <khermans> igcek, by definition, you would already have the dvd
[12:11] <igcek> no... capture,  so i can make a "safety" copy
[12:11] <khermans> MTraker, oh disable compiz
[12:11] <khermans> MTraker, tere are many compiz related side ffects
[12:11] <khermans> igcek, capture form what?
[12:11] <khermans> igcek, you have the dvd
[12:11] <khermans> igcek, you want to back up te dvd?
[12:12] <igcek> i want to copy my dvd movie to hard drive
[12:12] <MTraker> khermans it's true, but the problem it's 3d graphic with blender.
[12:13] <khermans> igcek, ceck out k9cop
[12:13] <khermans> k9copy
[12:13] <sluimers> hey there, I'm at my father's place, he has two windows computers, awireless router and a printer connected to one of them, it's a hp psc 2410, how do I reach it sing cups?
[12:13] <sluimers> using
[12:14] <sluimers> I have a laptop myself
[12:14] <khermans> sluimers, if all are running gutsy, it should find it on the network
[12:15] <sluimers> khermans, but they're not, his are running win zp
[12:15] <sluimers> xp
[12:16] <xtas> /j #ubuntu-fi
[12:16] <xtas> sry
[12:16] <khermans> sluimers, he should be able to add in gutsy though, as it should still detect win printers if they are shared, afaicr
[12:17] <rabby> hi
[12:18] <khermans> !hi | rabby
[12:18] <ubotu> rabby: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:18] <rabby> is there a application to make pc1 outputting the sound of pc2 over network?
[12:18] <sluimers> ?? add in gutsy, isn't gutsy just the newest release of ubuntu?
[12:18] <khermans> rabby, pip /dev/dsp ?
[12:19] <khermans> sluimers, yes
[12:20] <artdaw> hi to all
[12:20] <wols> rabby: yes. several. nas, esound, pulseaudio
[12:20] <khermans> rabby, nc -l -p 9999 > /dev/dsp ... cat /dev/dsp | nc pc2 9999
[12:20] <khermans> something like that
[12:20] <khermans> !hi | artdaw
[12:20] <ubotu> artdaw: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:21] <ikonia> khermans: no chance will that work, surly
[12:21] <khermans> ikonia, never?
[12:21] <artdaw> I've got some problems with installing a driver for my GeForce MX 400
[12:21] <ikonia> khermans: "I can't see that working"
[12:21] <ikonia> khermans: an interesting approach though
[12:21] <sluimers> khermans, how do I find the printer then? Should it simply show up in "Printing"?
[12:22] <wols> !nvidia > artdaw
[12:22] <khermans> ikonia, it should work
[12:22] <khermans> ikonia, try this on your own system
[12:22] <khermans> ikonia,  cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp
[12:22] <artdaw> thankx
[12:22] <sluimers> khermans, well I can't find it
[12:23] <sluimers> khermans, not detected
[12:23] <ikonia> khermans: yes, thats a local system, I don't think that will work over the network (be intereesting to see if it does)
[12:23] <khermans> sluimers, you can add it manually too
[12:23] <khermans> ikonia, why would it not?
[12:23] <khermans> ikonia, its all pipes dude
[12:23] <khermans> im pretty sure i have seen it done before
[12:23] <ikonia> khermans: try it, I can't see dsp picking up sound like that, but be really interested in seeing it working
[12:24] <khermans> ikonia, open me up a port :-)
[12:24] <wols> ikonia: it can't
[12:24] <ikonia> wols: I didn't think so
[12:24] <wols> khermans: you don't know how /dev/dsp works me thinks
[12:24] <khermans> wols, can you please say why?
[12:24] <wols> cause /dev/dsp won't give you the data
[12:26] <ikonia> khermans: there is a network "sound" server I just can't remember the name of it
[12:26] <bullgard4> khermans: You said: "bullgard4, you can find all files and what packages they belong to."detlef@MD97600:~$ sudo apt-file update && apt-file search dv1394" does not find /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/Documentation/ABI/obsolete/dv1394 and not /usr/src/linux-2.6.22.4/Documentation/ABI/obsolete/dv1394 either. Why does it not find them?
[12:26] <khermans> wols, well it does give me output when i try it
[12:26] <killsalad>  hi all i've got a question concering exim4 - is there a way to set up exim to deliver mail to one adress no matter what to field is, like postcast server ?
[12:26] <BloodyScum> im trying to extract a .rar file, but every time i do it gives me this error "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)"  someone told me to use 7zip, so i installed 7zip and tried   "7z e -o/media/disk/downloads s-300.rar" and got "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" again...
[12:26] <raymondfranco6> hi all
[12:27] <wols> khermans: if an app opens /dev/dsp for putting out sound, /dev/dsp is taken. nothing else can open it. THe End
[12:27] <BloodyScum> anyone know why i cant extract this file, or that this "file size limit" is?
[12:28] <khermans> bullgard4, i found a reference on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <mrbro> male, 17
[12:28] <BloodyScum> i ment to say "or what this "file size limit" is"
[12:28] <khermans> bloodboy, maybe the internal file compressed is too large to be extracted
[12:29] <khermans> BloodyScum, i told you to try 7zip to verify this
[12:29] <raymondfranco6> can someone please help me??? i am trying to set shares and persmission in ubuntu 6.06 so i can access in ms machine
[12:29] <raymondfranco6> i cant paste my smb.conf in the pastebin
[12:29] <mindacoi> I never even knew 7zip was on apt until i just looked - you find out solutions to problems you never had i suppose, but had I known I would have got 7zip instead of unzip :)
[12:29] <mic_> :)
[12:29] <^root^> i have every codec installed, i can stream from all sites, except google video, why?
[12:30] <BloodyScum> khermans well it is a verry large file, but what should i do? i cant extract it?
[12:30] <khermans> wols, i just do a test -- i start catting /dev/dsp, then i pipe data from urandom -- stil lfile grows
[12:30] <raymondfranco6> anyone??
[12:30] <khermans> wols, seems interesting
[12:30] <mindacoi> ^root you can download the flv files with videodownloader firefox addon - you know that?
[12:30] <khermans> BloodyScum, 7z
[12:31] <mindacoi> Then I think Xine or mplayer lays them
[12:31] <demitri> Hello everyone. I'm having problems SHARING a folder from my ubuntu to my MACBOOK. i can see the ubuntu pc but can connect to it. can some one please help...?
[12:31] <khermans> mindacoi, or vlc
[12:31] <mindacoi> I'm not much into video so I can't conveneiently check
[12:31] <ljsmithx> !microsoft
[12:31] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:31] <Myrtti> !away > Skitt
[12:31] <BloodyScum> khermans  i tried z7, gave me the same error
[12:31] <Skitt> oO
[12:31] <raymondfranco6> its no an ms prob, itts an ubuntu prob
[12:32] <khermans> bloodboy, then you are out of luck it seems
[12:32] <khermans> bloodboy, where did you get this file?
[12:32] <demitri> Hello everyone. I'm having problems SHARING a folder from my ubuntu to my MACBOOK. i can see the ubuntu pc but can connect to it. can some one please help...?
[12:32] <raymondfranco6> can someone please help me??? i am trying to set shares and persmission in ubuntu 6.06 so i can access in ms machine
[12:33] <BloodyScum> khermans well its the 300 in hi def... i uhh.. aquired it...
[12:33] <khermans> demitri, try nfs
[12:33] <demitri> ray i'm having the same problem but from MAC to ubuntu
[12:33] <demitri> what do you mean.?
[12:33] <mindacoi> khermans yeah I was trying to be balanced - I already mentioned vlc loads last night :)
[12:33] <Ch33tAh> Can anyone help me pls
[12:33] <raymondfranco6> i know.. i can get in to the pc tho.. just cant access the shared folders
[12:34] <ljsmithx> !macintosh
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macintosh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <khermans> mindacoi, then mplayer -vo aa
[12:34] <ljsmithx> !osx
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <mindacoi> Actually no it was somewhere else i kept mentioning it
[12:34] <demitri> thn ubotu
[12:34] <mindacoi> But I began to sound like an advert for vlc LOL
[12:34] <Hirvinen> !ppc | ljsmithx
[12:34] <ubotu> ljsmithx: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:34] <ljsmithx> cool
[12:35] <ljsmithx> !apple
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <demitri> ok
[12:35] <ljsmithx> Ok I'm gunna go coz I'm just not helping lol
[12:35] <ljsmithx> if you have msn, add me! eagle_hunter@live.com.au
[12:35] <demitri> brb
[12:35] <mindacoi> I've never owned or used Mac
[12:35] <Tobias92> Hello ubuntu people. I try to compile lirc from source but it says I need the linux kernel source. But apt tells me linux-source has already been installed. What am I doing wrong?
[12:36] <BloodyScum> anyone know how to get arround the "File size limit" when extracting a huge file from a rar?
[12:36] <ahaswell> Tobias92: did you extract the kernel source?
[12:36] <mindacoi> One day I'm gonna walk into a job and there's going to be aMac sat there and I'm going to have no idea how to use it :)
[12:36] <Tobias92> ahaswell, I assumed apt would do that for me
[12:36] <ahaswell> Tobias92: check out what's in /usr/src - I think it just downloads the tarbz
[12:37] <demitri> ok back.
[12:37] <Tobias92> ahaswell, it does.
[12:37] <Tobias92> I'll try unpacking it
[12:37] <demitri> see the MAC is also a UNIX system so it shouldn't be that different from ubuntu
[12:37] <ahaswell> don't forget to link the dir to linux
[12:37] <ahaswell> ln -s linux-2.6.xxxx linux
[12:37] <wols> demitri: fyi, ubuntu isn't a UNIX system
[12:37] <demitri> this is what i did:
[12:37] <Ch33tAh> Can anyone help me please?
[12:37] <demitri> realY..?
[12:38] <demitri> i didn't know that
[12:38] <Ch33tAh> hello
[12:38] <Ch33tAh> I'm a newbie here
[12:38] <demitri> well then i created a folder in ubuntu, shared it
[12:38] <coal> Is there anyone who can help me with some interface upset?
[12:38] <demitri> and when i go on MAC in the same network i see the PC but can't connect to it to see the shared folder
[12:39] <ChrisGibbs> coal: wat seems to be the trouble?
[12:39] <coal> I have problem getting at ip from my router
[12:39] <Ch33tAh> I've connection problem with IMs. Somebody help!
[12:39] <coal> when i conect thrue anoter router
[12:39] <MrKeuner> hi, I'd like a /home/common folder to have a certain umask value, do I need to execute that "umask $val" each time the system boots?
[12:40] <ChrisGibbs> coal: are you trying to use DHCP?
[12:40] <coal> ok... I'm new at this irc...sorry
[12:40] <coal> I'll try explain again
[12:40] <raymondfranco6> anyone VERY clued up with smb.conf????
[12:41] <demitri> can some one PRIVATE me about the SHARE situation please...?
[12:41] <ChrisGibbs> coal: sweet.
[12:41] <Hali_303> hi!
[12:41] <coal> I have 2 routers. One from my internetsuplyer and one I bouth my self
[12:41] <Ch33tAh> I'm using Feisty. Gaim or Pidgin won't connect. They works fine thru Proxy Tunneling software.
[12:42] <Hali_303> my problem: after a hard reset, hibernate works. However, when the machine comes back after the hibernation, hibernation does not work any more. how to find out what is causing the problem?
[12:42] <coal> I have put the LAN cable from router 1 to LAN in router 2 so that router 2 is beeing used as a switch
[12:42] <demitri> ok well since no one knows, i'll come back later then. thnx anyways
[12:42] <demitri> bye...
[12:43] <Tobias92> ahaswell, trying to compile the lirc source, I get overloaded with errors. This cant be a source mistake, can it?
[12:43] <ahaswell> unlikely...
[12:43] <coal> and router 1 have a DHCP server
[12:43] <jtt> what is the difference between  .gnome  and  .gnome2
[12:44] <jtt> in you home directory that is
[12:44] <coal> When I connect my Ubuntu directly to router 1, it suplyes my machine with an ip
[12:44] <jyulliano> how install KDE 4 no Ubuntu 7.10???
[12:44] <coal> but not when router 2 is inbetween
[12:44] <wols> coal: you can only have on DHCP server active in the LAN
[12:44] <coal> jep, I know
[12:45] <coal> I switched the DHCP off in router 2
[12:45] <wols> coal: the upstream of your router2 is empty right? no cable there?
[12:45] <ChrisGibbs> routers act as layer 3 devices. So the DHCP broadcasts are getting dropped at router two when they are sent from router 1
[12:46] <wols> ChrisGibbs: router 2 is used as a switch
[12:46] <coal> Bu up stream, do you meen WAN?
[12:46] <wols> coal: yes
[12:46] <coal> ...then yes
[12:46] <ChrisGibbs> wols: then it is not a router then
[12:46] <wols> it is. just not used as one
[12:46] <ignas> hi, does anyone know how to properly "grep" for a text or at least it's location in something like /dev/sda2 ? i have deleted a text file i'd like to recover ...
[12:46] <rabby> what's the name of the pulseaudio client?
[12:46] <wols> ignas: like any other file
[12:47] <ignas> wols: grep says - Binary file /dev/sda2 matches
[12:47] <MrKeuner> hi can I use a different umask only for some folder let's say, /home/common
[12:47] <wols> coal: do you have more than one PC connected to router 2?
[12:47] <ChrisGibbs> coal: what brand is it?? I would be very suprised if it can be turned into a switch without it being a Cisco or equilivent...
[12:47] <wols> coal: can you statically assign IP and does it work then?
[12:47] <wols> ChrisGibbs: any homerouter can
[12:47] <coal> No... not at the tmeI can't get it in my head why my Windows
[12:48] <coal> sorry... why my windos mascine gets an ip when i connect it
[12:48] <wols> coal: then your setup outside is fine and only ubuntu has a config problem. what's the interface for the NIC to the router2?
[12:48] <Ol1> Can't imagine this to be a common question: I installed a second HD in my laptop. As this means I can no longer have a CD, i set up VMWare to use the raw disk, booted from the iso, installed, booted onto the new disk (natively, not VMware). Everything works great, EXCEPT that my IDE disks for some reason shows up as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb! During the install, i presume VMware virtualized the disk as SCSI, so I was much surprised to find it worked wit
[12:48] <jdh6403> hey folks  i have a brand new freshly updated from the repos copy of ubuntu on my puter here and i have some questions
[12:48] <coal> No it does not work when static
[12:49] <ChrisGibbs> wols: I think it's late, just realised it is probably a switch/router
[12:49] <jdh6403> should i install gstreamer?
[12:49] <wols> Ol1: nothing to do with vmware
[12:49] <Myrtti> jdh6403: you don't have it installed by default?
[12:49] <coal> What do you meen when you say NIC?
[12:49] <jdh6403> ooo  yes  i guess it is
[12:49] <Arelis> Hi all. How do i add Ubuntu to the Windows network, so i can transfer files between my Windows and Linux PC?
[12:50] <Ol1> wols: ok? Care to elaborate?
[12:50] <Myrtti> !samba | Arelis
[12:50] <wols> Arelis: with samba
[12:50] <ubotu> Arelis: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:50] <jdh6403> i would love to have someone help me with getting things set up so they work
[12:50] <wols> Ol1: libata attached devices are now all using he scsi subsystem
[12:50] <ChrisGibbs> coal: Network card
[12:51] <Ol1> Well, there you go. Live and learn. Thanks.
[12:51] <jdh6403> another question....the w32 codecs on medibuntu's repo...should i install those also?
[12:52] <coal> ooo....  "what's the interface for the NIC to the router2?" I'm not sure what you meen by that?
[12:52] <Myrtti> jdh6403: depends if you need them
[12:52] <jdh6403> well i download movie files from the net alot
[12:52] <wols> coal: eth0, eth1, etc
[12:52] <Arelis> Myrtti: thanks :)
[12:53] <coal> ok
[12:53] <jdh6403> so i am guessing avi and other formats are in w32 codecs?
[12:53] <wols> jdh6403: no. mainly wmv is
[12:53] <jdh6403> well i need that for sure then
[12:54] <coal> do you meen how ect/network/interfaces is...?
[12:54] <jdh6403> and his is the trickiest part of all...getting dvd's to play
[12:54] <gvsa123> isn't there a complied package for frequently used media plugins already... forgot the name
[12:54] <aimtrainer> hi! I need to rip the sound from a youtube video - what's the easiest way?
[12:54] <jdh6403> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html    is this the right way to get dvd's to work in ubuntu?
[12:55] <coal> auto eth0
[12:55] <coal> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:55] <Jowi> !dvd | jdh6403
[12:55] <ubotu> jdh6403: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:55] <ChrisGibbs> coal: wat is the output from `ifconfig` please?
[12:56] <coal> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:F3:A7:4B:EC
[12:56] <coal>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:56] <coal>           RX packets:55190 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:56] <coal>           TX packets:47575 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[12:56] <coal>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[12:56] <coal>           RX bytes:60667028 (57.8 MiB)  TX bytes:4512687 (4.3 MiB)
[12:56] <coal>           Interrupt:16 Base address:0x6000
[12:57] <coal> ...allmoste like this
[12:57] <glidesurfer> hallo
[12:57] <coal> I have my cable connected direct to router 1 right now, so I can write to you now
[12:57] <ChrisGibbs> coal: thats fine. Your Windows machine gets issued a address when connected to router2?
[12:58] <coal> yes, there is no problem with my windows
[12:58] <jdh6403> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh    i put that into terminal and it said command not found
[12:58] <jdh6403> whats up?
[12:58] <glidesurfer> i got a problem with conkey, anybody who may likes to help me?
[12:58] <raymondfranco6> so i take it there is noone that has any idea what to do with smb.conf?
[12:58] <Rug> Howdy all,  what is the command to re-initilize the mouse?  My mouse stops responding after screensaver/monitor power-savings kick in.
[12:59] <sebdah> Hi! I've got a problem with a COmpaq 6720s laptop. When connecting the internet cable I don't get an IP (via DHCP). When I run ethtool eth0 it says that "Link detected: No". Using the same cable on another laptop, results in "Link detected: Yes". So something might be wrong with the network drivers. I can't use the wlan either, but that's a later problem. Both laptops are running 7.10.
[12:59] <Rug> sebdah: broadcom chipset prolly
[12:59] <gvsa123> ah... ubuntu-restricted-extras!
[12:59] <coal> I have allso tryed using router 2 as a router - thrue the WAN port.
[12:59] <coal> ...works fine with windows, but not on linux
[13:00] <glidesurfer> nobody...
[13:00] <sebdah> Rug: yes
[13:01] <Rug> sebdah: search for broadcomm in the add/remove programs
[13:01] <gmenelau> help
[13:02] <ChrisGibbs> coal: does ubuntu pick up a address when patched into router1 directly?
[13:02] <coal> yes
[13:02] <sebdah> When I open the Restricted Drivers manager I see the Broadcom driver. But when I enable it I get "The software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled". But I can't enable all sources and reload because I don't have an internet connection
[13:02] <glidesurfer> what's wrong with my conky - here ist my config-file: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/26701/
[13:02] <glidesurfer> conky doesn't start
[13:02] <coal> That is the thing that I can't get into my head...
[13:03] <gmenelau> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/compizconfig-python/python-compizconfig_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:03] <gmenelau>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[13:03] <gmenelau> what i do ?
[13:03] <Rug> glidesurfer: can you launch it manually?
[13:03] <coal> Why it doesn't works when there is a swith inbetween
[13:04] <glidesurfer> @rug: i tiped "conky" in console, but nothing happens
[13:04] <mojoo> can some explain me how to change from 32 bit colors to 16 bit in gnome?
[13:04] <gmenelau> i try to install compriz but i get this massage :W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/compizconfig-python/python-compizconfig_0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:04] <gmenelau>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]
[13:04] <murf3326> Hi folks.  I'm looking for some help with lm-sensors.  I have it installed and running (I'm seeing sensor output ok).  The problem is the sensors seem to be mislabelled.  CPU temp and M/B temp for example are reversed.  The voltages are all adrift as well.  Anyone know how to fix these issues?
[13:04] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> I NEEEEEEEEEEEED HELP!!!
[13:05] <coal> Is there a way i can write directly to you like you do with the "coal:" - thiniy
[13:05] <coal> ?
[13:05] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> i got a AC97 sound card
[13:05] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> but I DONT HAVE ANY SOUND!!
[13:05] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> wtf?!
[13:05] <Rug> glidesurfer: one sec.
[13:05] <glidesurfer> ok
[13:05] <Rug> Gustavo_Rodrigue: with that attitude you will wait for a long time.  Grow up
[13:06] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> I just search this in foruns, google, yahoo
[13:06] <Jowi> coal, it's automatic. put the persons name in the message and that message will be hilighted for that person.
[13:06] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Rug: mermao
[13:06] <AngryAnt> I was wondering if there exists an image I can write to a disc which will enable the computer its in to boot into the ubuntu installer and install on that same disc?
 thanks
[13:07] <AhLiFiQiR> hello
[13:07] <AhLiFiQiR> ive just installed ubuntu7.10
[13:07] <ChrisGibbs> coal: do you happen to remember if the liveCD picked up an address?
[13:07] <gmenelau> greek_man can you help me?
[13:07] <Rug> Gustavo_Rodrigue: English only please.
[13:07] <AhLiFiQiR> why cant i play mp3s?
[13:08] <thann0y> Gustavo_Rodrigue: with Ubuntu 5.04 and this sound card, I had a similar problem. Have you tried to connect a phone on you modem output? It was my problem, the sound was delivered on the phone output^^
[13:08] <Jowi> !install | AngryAnt (perhaps something that you need is in here)
[13:08] <ubotu> AngryAnt (perhaps something that you need is in here): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:08] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Rug: dude, I need help with mine sound cards... I use UBUNTU 7.10...
[13:08] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> Updated
[13:08] <coal> -ChrisGibbs- ...when I installed Ubuntu???
[13:08] <AngryAnt> Jowi: Thanks
[13:08] <gmenelau> any help
[13:09] <thann0y> I had fixed that with forums, by editing something like alsa config file
[13:09] <AhLiFiQiR> just install the gstreamer plugins?
[13:09] <_aluminium_23_> Gustavo_Rodrigue, low sound?
[13:09] <glidesurfer> anbody else got an idea?
[13:09] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> no sound
[13:09] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> any sound
[13:09] <glidesurfer> +y
[13:10] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> I see a lot of guys with the same problem
[13:10] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> without a solution
[13:10] <Rug> glidesurfer: sorry I am back, (I am having prooblems of my own) =).
[13:10] <glidesurfer> ok, rug
[13:10] <Xintruder> HI :D
[13:10] <Rug> glidesurfer: how did you install conky?
[13:11] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> alsaconf dont works
[13:11] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> alsa-base too
[13:11] <coal> ChrisGibbs: I'm not sure what you meen?
[13:11] <th0r> Rug have you looked at gkrellm ?
[13:11] <glidesurfer> from the ubuntu-repositories
[13:11] <Pici> !sound | Gustavo_Rodrigue
[13:11] <ubotu> Gustavo_Rodrigue: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:11] <glidesurfer> "sudo apt-get install conky"
[13:12] <AhLiFiQiR> whats conky?
[13:12] <hdoria> how can i blacklist a package? i created a /etc/apt/preferences file and added some entries following the manpage bit it does not work
[13:12] <Rug> glidesurfer: ok good.  type conky at the console, and then type dmesg |tail
[13:13] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ...
[13:13] <ChrisGibbs> coal: What is network-manager telling you about the wired connection?
[13:13] <Rug> th0r: I have been using conky for a very long time, and I love it
[13:13] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> ok my sound works
[13:13] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> thanks
[13:13] <Gustavo_Rodrigue> -_-
[13:13] <pok> "could anyone tell me please how to play shoutcast internet radio using command line using the madplay"
[13:13] <glidesurfer> and now?
[13:13] <glidesurfer> ich can't see conky yet
[13:14] <tuffguy321> hi people, can i get some help with my sudo apt-get update plz its got stuck on "99% [4 Packages gzip 0]"
[13:14] <Rug> what does dmesg say?   any related error messages?
[13:14] <coal> Do you meen my internet suplyer?
[13:14] <ikonia> tuffguy321: is the macine responding.
[13:14] <whoppix> hey. does anyone know which package i have to install in order to get stdlib.h and such?
[13:14] <ikonia> tuffguy321: cancel it and try again
[13:14] <tuffguy321> yes
[13:14] <pok> "could anyone tell me please how to play shoutcast internet radio using command line using the madplay"
[13:14] <ikonia> whoppix: thats the glibc headers
[13:14] <Rug> pok: you already asked once.
[13:14] <whoppix> ikonia, thanks a lot!
[13:14] <tuffguy321> i did Ikonia quite a few times
[13:14] <Jowi> !find stdlib.h
[13:14] <glidesurfer> while tiping "conky" i got the error: "bash: echo: write error: Broken pipe"
[13:15] <ikonia> tuffguy321: do you have an unusual/down mirror/repo
[13:15] <ubotu> File stdlib.h found in apcalc-dev, avr-libc, bash-builtins, brickos, cmix (and 43 others)
[13:15] <Rug> doh!
[13:15] <MGalaxy> Hello, PLZ suggest me an expert DownloadManager with GUI, Multithread, TempFile settings, Schedule, SpeedControl,...    These r not good: KGet, w4x, wxdFast, multiget
[13:15] <coal> they do not know how to help me, unless it is a Windows machine
[13:15] <Rug> glidesurfer: ok then you have an error in your .conkyrc file.
[13:15] <pok> how to open a html file using commandline/....          will wget -o url filename will work????????
[13:15] <tuffguy321> what it was i was tryin to install qbitorrent and i had to add two urls to the source list
[13:15] <Rug> glidesurfer: grab a 'default' one from the web-site and use it
[13:15] <glidesurfer> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/26701/
[13:15] <ikonia> tuffguy321 thats probably the issue, those repo's are down and not timing out quick
[13:16] <glidesurfer> what could be wrong
[13:16] <Jowi> pok, what do you mean by "open"?
[13:16] <glidesurfer> ?
[13:16] <ikonia> tuffguy321: try remocing them and doing an update as a test
[13:16] <pok> show it in text file
[13:16] <ikonia> tuffguy321: removing them that should read
[13:16] <pok> ie gedit
[13:16] <ChrisGibbs> coal: In Gnome in the system tray.
[13:16] <pok> will wget -o url | gedit will work...its not working
[13:16] <ChrisGibbs> coal: provided that your running gnome
[13:16] <tuffguy321> yup my thought exactly ikonia and that works, so is there any other way i can install qbitorrent for a n00b?
[13:17] <Jowi> pok, wget url/index.html && gedit index.html
[13:17] <ikonia> tuffguy321: if it's not in the ubuntu repo's not really
[13:18] <tuffguy321> dam that sucks but thanks for your help ikonia
[13:18] <glidesurfer> thanks for your help, rug
[13:18] <coal> I'm running Gnome yes, but is network-manager a program?
[13:18] <Rug> np, still looking
[13:18] <glidesurfer> ok
[13:18] <pok> thanks a lot for ur help jowi...it worked could you please tell me the logic behind this command usage...
[13:19] <coal> then I don't know how to run it. Or I haven't installed it
[13:19] <coal> ...?
[13:19] <Jowi> pok, wget 123.123.123.123/index.html (download index.html and save it to current directory) && (when it is done continue) gedit index.html (open index.html in current directory with gedit)
[13:20] <wers> I just compiled pidgin 2.3. now that I have it installed, I installed the guifications plugin from the repos but I can't use it :( any ideaS?
[13:21] <Tobias92> Dear ubuntu people. After installing lirc and getting the right config file, "irw" gives absolutely no output and quits, what is wrong?
[13:21] <pok> ok thanks jowi
[13:21] <ChrisGibbs> coal: sorry yes its an application. ALT+F2 and then type in "nm-applet"
[13:22] <ChrisGibbs> coal: by default it is install with Ubuntu and should appear as an icon in your system tray
[13:22] <Rug> glidesurfer: what happens if you replace your conkyrc file with this one:  http://conky.sourceforge.net/conkyrc-brenden
[13:22] <glidesurfer> rug: i'll try
[13:22] <Muskie> Blarg!
[13:22] <jpastore_> Is there a way to remap the show desktop keyboard shortcut from ctrl-alt-d to win key-d?
[13:22] <Muskie> I knew i'd break something my first run.. :P
[13:22] <glidesurfer> ohh
[13:22] <raymondfranco6> hi guys.. managed to paste my smb.conf online.. can someone please check it out for me, thx in advance
[13:22] <raymondfranco6> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/26702/
[13:23] <glidesurfer> what happened now?
[13:23] <Muskie> does anyone know how to remove nvidia-glx? it broke my xwindows
[13:23] <glidesurfer> conky is runnig
[13:23] <glidesurfer> but throw the whole desktop
[13:23] <wers> jpastore_, tried gconf?
[13:23] <Rug> =)
[13:23] <ChrisGibbs> raymondfranco6: what are you trying to achieve?
[13:23] <jpastore_> wers, no never used it before
[13:23] <jpastore_> wers let me fire it up and see what happens
[13:23] <jpastore_> raymondfranco, what's the problem?
[13:24] <wers> jpastore_, run gconf-editor
[13:24] <coal> ok... do you knoe how to start it in a terminal=?
[13:24] <Jowi> Tobias92, tricky question. make sure /etc/lirc/hardware.conf has got the correct LIRCD_ARGS. example, I need to use LIRCD_ARGS="-H dev/input -d /dev/input/event0 /etc/lirc/lircd.conf" for appleir controller.
[13:24] <xyz-> how to change ident in xchat?
[13:25] <wers> jpastore_, /apps/metacity/global_keybindings
[13:25] <raymondfranco6> ChrisGibbs: i have got an ubuntu machine which will be running as a file sharing server, i have setup shares, managed to connect it to a win2k3 domain, i just cant seem to access the shared folders from within windows
[13:25] <jpastore_> wers, wow this seems to be a little extensive....ok thanks I was about to ask where in the hell am I going to find this =)
[13:25] <kiki7> heyho @ all...
[13:25] <ChrisGibbs> coal: ah another bad assumption on my part. Are you actually running GNOME?
[13:25] <raymondfranco6> as well the shared stuff is all on an externel drive which i can't set ANY permissions to
[13:25] <wers> jpastore_, change show_desktop to <Super>d
[13:25] <Jowi> Tobias92, might be as easy as to find the correct /dev/input/eventX to use. that is specific to your hardware...
[13:25] <wers> I just did it and it's more practical :D
[13:25] <andr0es> hi..
[13:25] <raymondfranco6> at the moment that drive is on rwx for owner, which is root
[13:26] <coal> Yes, but with no menus
[13:26] <Tobias92> Jowi, how do I find such event? :P
[13:26] <kiki7> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:26] <kiki7> :D
[13:26] <andr0es> hi everybody ..
[13:26] <Quicksilva> hi there, is there any program i can use to build a xorg.conf for me.  as in detect all my hardward and do it automatically?
[13:26] <jpastore_> wers, is there anything to do to apply it?
[13:26] <wers> none
[13:26] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know how I can sync my Samsung F700 with Gusty (the calender & tasks part)>
[13:26] <andr0es> I have already created an cd form the 7.10-i386 iso
[13:26] <wers> it works once you change it
[13:27] <coal> ....I use my ubuntu for MythTv....so I have cut out all the unnessesry
[13:27] <andr0es> but it says there are cehcksum errorr
[13:27] <wers> jpastore_, you mean, you can't change the value?
[13:27] <glidesurfer> rug: ok, i just killed the process and replaced the config-file
[13:27] <Jowi> Tobias92, Myself, I experimented. But I think it's best to google for an example /etc/lirc/hardware.conf for your controller.
[13:27] <glidesurfer> now it's running
[13:27] <ZanfoLinux2Win> ubuntu 2 win
[13:27] <sebdah> When I'm about to activate the network driver (for a broadcom card) in the Restricted Drivers manager, I'm asked to provide a location for some firmware. What is that firmware. Is it the Windows Vista driver files or is it the driver (an .exe) that I can download from Compaq's site, or is it something that is located in Ubuntu?
[13:27] <Rug> ok
[13:27] <nomic> quicksilver if you run ati card the aticonfig command configures your xorg.conf
[13:27] <jpastore_> wers, no I changed it and it worked! thank you. I didn't know if there was anything I had to do like hit save somewhere....it just worked thank you soo much!
[13:27] <ZanfoLinux2Win> 1
[13:27] <ZanfoLinux2Win> 2
[13:27] <Tobias92> Jowi, so its hardware.conf I need to configure for my device, not lircd.conf?
[13:27] <andr0es> can a ybody help me ?
[13:27] <glidesurfer> thanks for your help, now i'm going to write a new one
[13:27] <Jordan_U> sebdah, It gives you the link to download it from
[13:27] <andr0es> in a private session ?
[13:28] <coal> but I can switch to another ...what's it called...you know what...
[13:28] <glidesurfer> a config-file i mean...
[13:28] <Jordan_U> sebdah, And if you have another means of connecting to the internet it can download it for you
[13:28] <ZanfoLinux2Win> 1
[13:28] <ZanfoLinux2Win> 1
[13:28] <coal> ...I'll do that.... Back in a moment
[13:28] <S82> Anyone who can tell me how to permanently change the terminal encoding without it changing back everytime i start a new terminal?
[13:28] <ChrisGibbs> coal: thats ok. I will stick to terminal
[13:28] <whoppix> ikonia, hmm.. i already enabled the source repository and installed some (g)libc related (-dev) libs, but doesnt seems like i got it right.. you wouldnt know by chance the exact packet name?
[13:28] <ChrisGibbs> coal: run `sudo \etc\init.d\networking restart`
[13:28] <wers> jpastore_, since it's your first time with gconf-editor, you might want to explore it. it's pretty useful ;)
[13:28] <sebdah> Jordan_U: Oh, I see. I'll try
[13:28] <ZanfoLinux2Win> 111
[13:28] <ikonia> whoppix: someone posted the correct package, I was mistaken.
[13:28] <coal> I have somethin called nm-tool
[13:28] <Jowi> Tobias92, hardware.conf maps to the correct device. lircd.conf contain the key bindings. lircmd.conf I don't use at all.
[13:29] <ikonia> whoppix: what was the header name
[13:29] <Tobias92> Jowi, ok thanks
[13:29] <S82> Anyone? about the encoding?
[13:29] <v3ctor> eww @ `\`
[13:29] <raymondfranco6> chrisgibbs: any ideas?
[13:29] <whoppix> ikonia, stdlib.h
[13:29] <Muskie> let's try again: I just installed nvidia-glx, but when I rebooted, I got nothing but a blavk screen. anyone know what's goign on?
[13:29] <ikonia> S82: just ask the question saying "anyone? something?" means nothing
[13:29] <ikonia> !info stdlib.h
[13:29] <ubotu> Package stdlib.h does not exist in gutsy
[13:29] <S82> ikonia: i did
[13:29] <ikonia> !find stdlib.h
[13:29] <S82> Anyone who can tell me how to permanently change the terminal encoding without it changing back everytime i start a new terminal?
[13:29] <wers> jpastore_, right click gnome's main menu bar and edit the menu. there, in the system tools, tick configuration editor for it to appear in the menu bar :D
[13:29] <ubotu> File stdlib.h found in apcalc-dev, avr-libc, bash-builtins, brickos, cmix (and 43 others)
[13:30] <ChrisGibbs> coal: wait for arount 1minm then run `dmesg` and see the output. see if anything fails. then possibily check `ifconfig` again and see if you have an IP address
[13:30] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know how I can sync my Samsung F700 with Gusty (the calender & tasks part)>
[13:30] <jpastore_> wers, it seems so! do you have recommendatins on kewl things to mod? or a guide or something?
[13:30] <S82> ikonia, but if you want it in another format sure.
[13:30] <ikonia> whoppix: there you go I guess you want bash-builtins
[13:30] <chazco> ikonia - I think i figured out the .deb issue... still not 100% sure i've dont it right but it works :)
[13:30] <ikonia> chazco: sorry I missed you last night
[13:30] <whoppix> ikonia uuuhm.. mh.. ok, ill give it a try.
[13:30] <glidesurfer> another question: i'm looking for a new dock for ubuntu - the kiba-dock is old, isn't it?
[13:30] <Jowi> Tobias92, perhaps there is a lirc irc channel if you're lucky.
[13:30] <chazco> ikonia - np :)
[13:30] <S82> How do i change the terminal encoding in gnome terminals so that it doesnt change back everytime i start a new terminal, im tired of getting UTF-8 and cant find any info about it on the forums.
[13:30] <kiki7> well this a very nice place to stay to understand ubuntu i think :D
[13:30] <jpastore_> wers, thanks I figured out how to add things to the menu bar a while ago...the windows quick launch bar was invaluable to me and it was nice to see a similar feature here =)
[13:30] <freqmod> Does anybody know (how to find out) which package that contains /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (for DRI/intel cpu's)
[13:30] <freqmod> ?
[13:31] <v3ctor> S82: did you save the profile?
[13:31] <Tobias92> J
[13:31] <freqmod> my NVIDIA driver installation overwrote it with it's ...glx.so
[13:31] <ikonia> S82: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/3923
[13:31] <wers> jpastore_, http://library.gnome.org/users/gconf-editor/latest/
[13:31] <S82> ck in a moment
[13:31] <jpastore_> wers do you use evolution? I have 2 questions about it that are a little frustrating....
[13:31] <S82> v3ctor & ikonia , checking both.
[13:31]  * freqmod found it
[13:32] <chazco> Anyone here have a Samsung E700 and knows how to sync it with Ubuntu?
[13:32] <wers> jpastore_, i do
[13:32] <wers> hit me
[13:32] <jpastore_> wers, basically would like to specify port for smtp server my isp blocks port 25, and woudl like to see thumbnails when browsing for attachments
[13:32] <jpastore_> I book marked the gconf site thanks!
[13:33] <wers> sorry jpastore_. i dont know anything about that :(
[13:33] <jpastore_> wers, it was worth a shot =)
[13:33] <ChrisGibbs> raymondfranco6: Soz still looking. Did you use any configuration tools for it?? IE SWAT or Webmin?
[13:33] <Rug> Howdy all,  what is the command to re-initilize the mouse?  My mouse stops responding after screensaver/monitor power-savings kick in.
[13:33] <jpastore_> wers, I'll go try the evolution channel, thanks!
[13:34] <wers> jpastore_, you're very welcome! :)
[13:34] <jpastore_> wers, so with gconf could I remap ctrl-w to ctrl-f4?
[13:34] <wers> jpastore_, yep
[13:34] <jpastore_> wers, sweet
[13:35] <glidesurfer> which dock could i use for ubuntu 7.10
[13:35] <whoppix> ikonia, hm, its still not able to find it :/
[13:35] <glidesurfer> ?
[13:35] <whoppix> glidesurfer, kiba-dock, avant-something if you want some eyecandy.
[13:35] <v3ctor> avant window navigator
[13:36] <whoppix> window navigator. right.
[13:36] <glidesurfer> ok, thanks to all
[13:36] <kiki7> sorry, but the e700 from samsung isnt synchronisable for linux ^
[13:36] <__machine> can anyone tell me what are the default apache2 modules loaded on gutsy?
[13:37] <jpastore_> wers, oh man this is sweet I fixed my switch windows backwards too! dude you made my day!
[13:37] <ikonia> whoppix: when you say you can't find it, do you mean it's not on the file system, or your software can't find it
[13:37] <__machine> i removed some modules and now my images are being served as text/html
[13:37] <S82> v3ctor & ikonia , doing both of them doesnt help me.
[13:38] <raymondfranco6> chrisgibbs, no havent used any config tools, just sudo gedit and a crap load of forums
[13:38] <kiki7> sorry guys, but I have a great problem with my audio card and my teufelsystem.. has anybode here an idea concerning the configuration of both of them?
[13:38] <S82> i reconfigured my locales to the right encoding, nothing happens, created a third profile only with the right text encoding, still doesnt start with the new encoding
[13:38] <wers> jpastore_, hehe. you're welcom
[13:38] <kiki7> or the other question: has anybody here in this room a teufelsystem?
[13:39] <whoppix> ikonia, gcc doesnt seem to be able to find it
[13:39] <sigra> in windows i could get file manager to search for file and find it..since moving ubuntu i can find no option to do this..the file manager offres a search but it doesn't find  files harddrive wide..there any utilitys on ubuntu can find files. even hidden files?
[13:39] <whoppix> ikonia, let me check the slocate db
[13:39] <whoppix> ikonia, cant find any on the filesystem either, only an "/usr/include/bash/ansi_stdlib.h"
[13:39] <ikonia> whoppix: check it's on the file system with a "find"
[13:40] <whoppix> ikonia, hm, i just did an updatedb..
[13:40] <coal> ChrisGribbs Sorry, I fuck something up on my interface....but no I'm back :)
[13:40] <coal> ...and now I'm in real Gnome session
[13:40] <v3ctor> !language | coal
[13:40] <ubotu> coal: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:41] <coal> ups... sorry
[13:41] <Rug> glidesurfer: Are you using fluxbox too?
[13:41] <ChrisGibbs> coal: did you manage to try out the commands i sent b4?
[13:42] <whoppix> ikonia, that really might take a while...
[13:43] <Jowi> Tobias92, perhaps this page can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Gutsy
[13:43] <glidesurfer> @rug: no
[13:43] <coal> ....yes... I've tryed it before when connected to router 2
[13:43] <Tobias92> Jowi, thanks!
[13:43] <coal> ...It sayes No DHCPOFFERS received
[13:44] <glidesurfer> but what do think about fluxbox, is it comfortable
[13:44] <timewriter> hi
[13:44] <Rug> I LOVE it.   very minimal
[13:44] <kiki7> has somebody a "Teufel-System" in this room
[13:44] <ChrisGibbs> coal: does it take the windows box patched into router2 a little while to pick up a address?
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> "The lack of features is a feature!" :)
[13:44] <Rug> "start" menu is available via a right-mouse click anywhere on the desktop
[13:44] <Rug> VERY fast
[13:45] <timewriter> what is Teufel-System , BSD ?
[13:45] <Rug> easy to configure.
[13:45] <LeGreffi3R> Dr_Willis> XD
[13:45] <glidesurfer> easy to configure? i red somthing different
[13:45] <LeGreffi3R> Dr_Willis> you're so right
[13:45] <Rug> all text files that edit your right-mouse menu
[13:45] <Kalzath> Could anyone help with a ubuntu server apt-get question?
[13:45] <glidesurfer> +e
[13:45] <coal> ....hmmm.... I haven't notised that... I don't atualy know
[13:45] <Rug> Kalzath: just ask
[13:45] <jpastore_> wers, I can't seem to find close tab. I found it for gnome terminal...do you think you can point me in the right direction?
[13:45] <whoppix> ikonia, nothing either
[13:45] <Kalzath> im getting [Waiting for headers] when trying to install pretty much any package
[13:45] <LeGreffi3R> i find fluxbox too heavy, i prefer jwm, ion3, wmii...
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Other Light weight window managers --> jwm, icewm, sawfish, ect.. :)    gotta collect them all!
[13:46] <LeGreffi3R> this is really light :D
[13:46] <Kalzath> i.e apt-get install mysql-common
[13:46] <whoppix> ikonia, i thought there would be a package called something like "libglibc-dev" or something like that...
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Im using jwm for my  'vnc' server needs.
[13:46] <coal> I don't think so... Should I try to test it?
[13:46] <ikonia> whoppix: it's not glibc
[13:47] <whoppix> uhm, ah, right.
[13:47] <whoppix> but it doesnt seem to be bash-builtins either
[13:47] <Rug> glidesurfer: check out xterm instead of console too.   I use this:   xterm -bg black -fg yellow -fn 9x15
[13:47] <ChrisGibbs> coal: its probably not that important. I was just thinking that Ubuntu might be timing out while waiting for a DHCP address
[13:47] <Rug> Kalzath: what happens when you type apt-get update
[13:47] <coal> aaa...maby?
[13:47] <ChrisGibbs> coal: what was the output from your /etc/networking/inferfaces
[13:48] <Kalzath> Rug: It also hits [Waiting for headers] then after about a minute goes through tons of hit and a couple of gets for .gpg files
[13:48] <whoppix> ikonia, i somehow think that libstd might be the key :)
[13:48] <ikonia> whoppix: ?
[13:48] <Rug> Kalzath: it just sounds like your connect is slow
[13:49] <coal> auto eth0
[13:49] <coal> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:49] <Kalzath> Rug: Yeah, it's not slow on the install, it literally hits about a minute or so then changes to Err connection failed.
[13:49] <ChrisGibbs> coal: nah not aaa (unless your running some kind of port security), Ubuntu by default is only gonna wait for 60secs for an address b4 giving up. Should be plenty of time though
[13:49] <glidesurfer> @rug: crazy colours
[13:49] <Kalzath> my sources.list is grabbing from gb.ubuntu
[13:49] <Rug> glidesurfer: easy on my eyes
[13:49] <Rug> glidesurfer: you Canadian?
[13:49] <Kalzath> Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main mysql-common 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1
[13:49] <Kalzath>   Connection failed
[13:50] <Rug> Kalzath: try a different mirror
[13:50] <glidesurfer> why do you ask?
[13:50] <Kalzath> Is there a list anywhere?
[13:50] <Rug> the way you spelt colours
[13:50] <Kalzath> We british claim the word colours :)
[13:50] <coal> Hmmm....is there anyway to try and change this time?
[13:51] <whoppix> ikonia, ill try something, just a sec.
[13:51] <Rug> Kalzath: yes, but ewasy way:   just change gb.archive to us.archive in you /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:51] <nomic> can anyone tell me why a command I inserted into the beginning of /etc/init.d/rc.local does not run when I boot the system?  (please ubuntupeople)
[13:51] <coal> ...just to try it out?
[13:51] <ChrisGibbs> you said that you already tried a static address?
[13:51] <glidesurfer> do canadian spell it like i did
[13:51] <Kalzath> Rug: Cool
[13:51] <coal> yes
[13:51] <v3ctor> nomic: what command did you put there?
[13:51] <Rug> glidesurfer: yupp
[13:51] <nomic> a command to start the net
[13:51] <Rug> glidesurfer: ahh DE   nevermind
[13:51] <glidesurfer> funny
[13:51] <glidesurfer> right
[13:52] <ChrisGibbs> coal: what is the address range your using, the netmask and the default gateway please ?
[13:52] <nomic> i put in :  echo "password" | sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:52] <coal> gateway: 10.0.0.1
[13:52] <glidesurfer> sorry for my bad english
[13:52] <v3ctor> nomic: you should be putting it in /etc/rc.local not /etc/init.d/rc.local
[13:52] <glidesurfer> i hope you may understand something
[13:52] <coal> range: 10.0.0.2 - 10.0.0.255
[13:52] <nomic> thats strange
[13:52] <Rug> glidesurfer: np, my Dutch (?) is worse
[13:52] <nomic> i thought etc  was configuration and init.d was boot
[13:53] <coal> #iface eth0 inet static
[13:53] <coal> #  address   10.0.0.3
[13:53] <coal> #  network   10.0.0.0
[13:53] <coal> #  netmask   255.255.255.0
[13:53] <coal> #  broadcast 10.0.0.255
[13:53] <coal> #  gateway   10.0.0.1
[13:53] <ChrisGibbs> coal: try `sudo ifconfig eth0 up 10.0.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0`
[13:53] <glidesurfer> Dutch? What is that?
[13:53] <nomic> okz thankyou v3ctor
[13:53] <v3ctor> nomic: did you look to see what /etc/init.d/rc.local does?
[13:53] <elkbuntu> !paste > coal
[13:53] <Rug> nevermind, I am an idiot
[13:53] <glidesurfer> np
[13:53] <Rug> German perhaps?
[13:53] <glidesurfer> ^^
[13:53] <nomic> gotcha it runs stuff in /etc gotcha i understand now am wiser :-D
[13:53] <glidesurfer> yes
[13:53] <ChrisGibbs> coal: `route add default 10.0.0.1`
[13:53] <v3ctor> nomic: enjoy
[13:54] <glidesurfer> where are you from?
[13:54] <nomic> ty v3ctor
[13:54] <Rug> glidesurfer: Canada
[13:54] <glidesurfer> are you britsh?
[13:54] <Rug> glidesurfer: No, Better!
[13:54] <glidesurfer> better
[13:54] <glidesurfer> ^^
[13:54] <whoppix> ikonia, installing libstd-(version+bla)-dev helped
[13:54] <Rug> glidesurfer: seriously, check out fluxbox
[13:54] <ChrisGibbs> coal: `ifconfig` does it have an IP address? `netstat -r` does it have the default route in the table?
[13:55] <coal> ....eeehh....when connected to router 2?
[13:55] <samjiman> hello
[13:55] <whoppix> ikonia, the Crypt::Rijndael bindings absolutely needed that to compile.
[13:55] <ChrisGibbs> coal: yes. router 2 please. Is that gonna drop you offline?
[13:55] <samjiman> anyone know which package I need to get fir libIDL-0.6.so.0? Thanks.
[13:55] <glidesurfer> Parliamentary democracy... such shit like in america, sorry, i hate such democracy
[13:56] <coal> yes
[13:56] <Tilllinu1> I am looking for an app to configure wacom tablets. Is there anything like this available?
[13:56] <v3ctor> samjiman: libidl-dev
[13:56] <glidesurfer> ok, i'm going to check it out
[13:56] <coal> ....but can maby log on to my win-machine
[13:56] <coal> Just a moment
[13:57] <samjiman> v3ctor: thanks. Its already installed. But still complaints of missing lib
[13:57] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I have two users share a folder with the same read and write access? I use chmod but that does not effect newly created files
[13:57] <Rug> coal: it is spelt:   maybe   not   mayby
[13:57] <samjiman> v3ctor: when I try to use gecko sdk's xpidl
[13:58] <glidesurfer> @rug: in germany we call such people like you "klugscheißer" - i don't know the english word for it
[13:58] <jpastore_> wers any idea on where I can find the global close tab mapping for ctrl-w? trying varying searches including key values and I'm not coming up with anything...
[13:58] <Kalzath> Rug:  Changed the gb entries, now im getting Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main mysql-common 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1
[13:58] <Kalzath>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[13:58] <Rug> glidesurfer: is it an insult?
[13:58] <Kalzath> Quite annoying, i can ping google et all etc without any problems
[13:59] <glidesurfer> mom - i'm still looking out
[13:59] <Rug> Kalzath: like I said it's just a mirror problem.   one sec..
[13:59] <jpastore_> Kalzath, I missed your problem...maybe I can help...
[13:59] <mikebeecham> having checked a list of 'known' viruses for linux...what anti-virus program should I be using?
[13:59] <LeGreffi3R> mikebeecham> none
[13:59] <Myrtti> none
[13:59] <Kalzath> jpastore: seems like apt-get is falling over trying to install various packages.
[13:59] <glidesurfer> Rug: i just found that: http://www4.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/gobshite.html
[14:00] <mikebeecham> LeGreffi3R: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruse
[14:00] <Myrtti> mikebeecham: did you read any of those articles
[14:00] <Kalzath> I get [Waiting for headers] then Err URL here, connection failed about a minute later. Rug assumes there's something up with the mirrors
[14:00] <LeGreffi3R> mikebeecham> there are, but you don't need an antivirus
[14:00] <iddo> is there a good way to install firefox3 and uninstall firefox2 in gutsy?
[14:00] <jpastore_> Kalzath, have you tried access the urls in your sources file? maybe you need to update your sources...
[14:00] <Myrtti> mikebeecham: most of them are proof-of-concept viruses that aren't in the wild
[14:01] <LeGreffi3R> mikebeecham> just be careful with what you install (if you use only debian package with apt, you shouldn't have any problem)
[14:01] <gvsa123> why not?
[14:01] <mikebeecham> Myrtti: I didnt...no...but to be honest I'm a new linux user, so would not understand the background behind them
[14:01] <Kalzath> apt-get update also gets [Waiting for headers] then lots of Ign's and hits about a minute later
[14:01] <AngryAnt> I just installed the ubuntu 7.04 server and it booted up. Last output on the display is "* Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ OK ]" which I'm thinking is ... uh ... [ ok ] :) However I'm kinda missing a prompt.
[14:01] <boris> !serbia
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serbia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:01] <samjiman> anyone know a place that hosts shared libraries I can download?
[14:01] <wers> jpastore_, i just got back. are you talking about xchat?
[14:01] <mikebeecham> how many viruses are out in the wild then? and how long before we start needing antivirus?
[14:01] <Kalzath> AngryAnt: putty to the server :)
[14:01] <Myrtti> mikebeecham: the antivirus software for linux is aimed mostly for linux servers acting as mailservers
[14:01] <gvsa123> if you share files with windows then you still need an AV
[14:02] <wers> ooh. global, huh? hmmm
[14:02] <samjiman> because I seem to need libIDL-0.6.so
[14:02] <AngryAnt> Kalzath: Uh? Eh? Moo?
[14:02] <perfector> just got virtualbox installed and tested its gr8 much better than qemu with kqemu
[14:02] <boris> mikebeecham : about 100 years before u'r gonna need AV
[14:02] <jpastore_> wers, no I mean globally...it seems that ctrl-w is the standard for close tab, but I find the setting for it
[14:02] <iddo> AngryAnt: if you press enter you get a prompt ?
[14:02] <Kalzath> AngryAnt: Once the server is installed and up, you can remote connect to it using ssh, putty.exe for windows etc.
[14:02] <glidesurfer> avant-window-navigator: error while loading shared libraries: libawn.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:02] <mikebeecham> boris: why...help me understand why we are not going to need them?
[14:02] <glidesurfer> need help!
[14:02] <AngryAnt> iddo: Ah. Thanks. Had tried all other keys. DOH! :p
[14:03] <boris> mikebeecham : are you new to linux ?
[14:03] <mikebeecham> boris...very much so, yes
[14:03] <cruxeternus> Hi all.  I'm trying to run Google Earth (0.2.0) on my Dad's laptop with intel embedded graphics, and it kicks me out to the login screen every time.  Does anyone know what's wrong?
[14:03] <jpastore_> Kalzath, I just found a putty client for my phone =)
[14:03] <Kalzath> Link! :P
[14:03] <iddo> AngryAnt: in /etc/event.d/tty1 change 1st line to: start on stopped rc2
[14:03] <dgjones> !virus | mikebeecham, mayb e this link will help explain about Linux and viruses
[14:03] <ubotu> mikebeecham, mayb e this link will help explain about Linux and viruses: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:03] <Kalzath> Especially if it's blackberry :)
[14:04] <jpastore_> Kalzath, Nokia 9500
[14:04] <mikebeecham> dgjones: thanks...will read now
[14:04] <boris> !srbia
[14:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about srbia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:04] <Kalzath> Meh - don't suppose it's a java putty?
[14:04] <dgjones> mikebeecham, your welcome
[14:04] <jpastore_> Kalzath, it's a symbian os...I'll check to see fi they have one for your crack berry =)
[14:05] <jpastore_> Kalzath, yea I think they ported the code...
[14:05] <Kalzath> My contract is up next month, so may have to look for new phone :)
[14:05] <boris> dam, i hate ati
[14:05] <Kalzath> iPhone jailbreak maybe..
[14:05] <boris> how's the serbian ubuntu channel called ?
[14:06] <jpastore_> Kalzath, I'm looking at the e90 from nokia or the n95
[14:06] <boris> does anyone know a good irc client for windows ? except mirc ?
[14:06] <wers> jpastore_, sorry. can't find it. hehe
[14:06] <jpastore_> wers, oh well thanks...
[14:06] <wers> boris, xchat2 :D
[14:06] <boris> k
[14:06] <glidesurfer> i just downloaded avant-windows-manager and compiled it
[14:06] <jpastore_> wers, you have to pay for xchat for windows
[14:06] <glidesurfer> but it doesn't work
[14:06] <Rug> glidesurfer: you might also want to check out irssi for your IRC client
[14:06] <Hali_303> my problem: after a hard reset, hibernate works. However, when the machine comes back after the hibernation, hibernation does not work any more. how to find out what is causing the problem?
[14:07] <wers> jstarcher, really?
[14:07] <Odd-rationale> I just installed a command line system. Why is can I not login in the 1st term. I have to go to the 2nd term in order to login?
[14:07] <wers> oops
[14:07] <Liquideath> does anyone know an easy way to join an Ubuntu machine to a Windows domain?
[14:07] <wers> i meant, jpastore_
[14:07] <wers> http://www.silverex.org/download/
[14:08] <coal77> (coal here on my windows machine) ok... i'm back as coal77
[14:08] <jpastore_> wers, yea I installed it and after a month it started bugging me for $20 and won't launch....so I just trillian...it's a work computer so I'm not going to crack mirc =)
[14:08] <boris> i hate windows
[14:08] <cruxeternus> Anyone have problems with Google Earth kicking back out to the login screen?  I've got v0.2.0 from the main repositories and an Intel embedded graphics chipset.  Where would I look to find errors?
[14:08] <jpastore_> boris you're not alone
[14:08] <boris> but i have to use it
[14:08] <jpastore_> boris again you're not alone
[14:08] <jpastore_> =)
[14:08] <boris> really ?
[14:08] <glidesurfer> what do you mean with "check out irssi"
[14:08] <kbrosnan> iddo: don't uninstall firefox 2, just install firefox 3 using the manual instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[14:08] <Rug> glidesurfer: try using it
[14:08] <Kalzath> Rug: Any ideas on the mirror issue?
[14:09] <Rug> Kalzath: one sec..
[14:09] <Kalzath> I like firefox 3 - very nice and fast.
[14:09] <jpastore_> speaking of work I should get to it =) Thanks everyone for you help!
[14:09] <glidesurfer> no, i really got these problems - sorry for such stupid questions
[14:09] <Rug> Kalzath: where do you live?
[14:09] <GuySoft> hey all, is there a command in ubuntu that will show will echo the screen's resolution?
[14:10] <akille1982> ciao qualcuno sa aiutarmi
[14:10] <Tilllinu1> !wacom
[14:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:10] <dgjones> !it | akille1982
[14:10] <ubotu> akille1982: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:11] <Kalzath> Rug: UK
[14:11] <coal77> ChrisGibbs Are you still there?
[14:11] <Rug> Kalzath: are you using gutsy?
[14:11] <Kalzath> Yep
[14:12] <Rug> Copy this:    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Manual_Method
[14:12] <Boris> what now
[14:12] <pequatre> hi. i want to access /home/music as a simple user, i've chmod'ed it to drwxrw-rw- yet i can't "cd" to it from /home as a simple user. What did i forget ? thx.
[14:12] <Boris> i hate windoze
[14:13] <Jowi> GuySoft, xrandr (without arguments) should do it
[14:13] <ChrisGibbs> coal: Soz. back
[14:13] <jokunen> quit
[14:13] <danielvc> i love mac ^^
[14:14] <pequatre> ok i've found out for a directory the "x" bit is used to allow cd'ing...
[14:14] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: ...Could you say again what to do?
[14:15] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: I lost the history
[14:15] <ChrisGibbs> coal: try `sudo ifconfig eth0 up 10.0.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0`
[14:15] <ChrisGibbs> coal: `route add default 10.0.0.1`
[14:15] <ChrisGibbs> coal: `ifconfig` does it have an IP address? `netstat -r` does it have the default route in the table?
[14:15] <jsoft> My firefox is not working... It was working fine for hours, now it does nothing when I run the firefox command. It just returns back to a command prompt.
[14:15] <jsoft> No error messages or anything.
[14:16] <jsoft> Any ideas?
[14:16] <Jowi> jsoft, try "killall firefox-bin" in a terminal
[14:16] <deformation> jsoft can you type "top" in the terminal?
[14:16] <ChrisGibbs> jsoft: try running firefox from a terminal and see the error msg
[14:16] <jsoft> its nor unning
[14:16] <jsoft> not running.
[14:16] <deformation> see if firefox is still running under
[14:16] <deformation> oh
[14:17] <jsoft> ChrisGibbs: did I not just say that i tried running it from a terminal/cmd line?
[14:17] <mikebeecham> dgjones: thanks for the read....that helped.  Of course, there are no guarantees, but it does set the mind at ease
[14:18] <ChrisGibbs> jsoft: you sure did.
[14:18] <ChrisGibbs> jsoft: my bad.
[14:19] <jsoft> Meh :/
[14:19] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: When i wrote `route add default 10.0.0.1` It sayed  SIOCARDDRT: No such device
[14:19] <jsoft> route add default gw 10.0.0.1
[14:19] <Jowi> jsoft, try "firefox -ProfileManager" and see if you get anything
[14:19] <jsoft> Jowi: nop
[14:20] <Jowi> jsoft, there's also "firefox -safe-mode" to disable extensions
[14:20] <jsoft> nope again...
[14:20] <predaeus> jsoft, try renaming ./mozilla to something like ./mozilla-backup and see if it is the user specific firefox settings.
[14:20] <jsoft> tried it.
[14:20] <Boris> what driver can i use for HD2600PRO ?
[14:20] <jsoft> basically its doing nothing.
[14:20] <Jowi> jsoft, "ps aux | grep -i fire" just in case
[14:21] <jsoft> *sigh* nothing
[14:21] <predaeus> jsoft, do a "strace firefox" and see if it gives any clues.
[14:21] <erez> hey, how do i install the newest flash version ?
[14:21] <deformation> jsoft, synaptic and reinstall fireofox
[14:21] <jsoft> it looks for things in .mozilla/firefox
[14:21] <jsoft> mainly init.d stuff
[14:21] <Kalzath> Rug: After the sources.list file is changes, does anything need to be restarted?
[14:21] <jsoft> deformation: but it was working like 30 minutes ago.
[14:21] <ChrisGibbs> coal: what jsoft said
[14:22] <jsoft> perhaps I reboot.
[14:22] <jsoft> sad, but oh well.
[14:22] <jsoft> Or perhaps I just go to sleep...
[14:23] <deformation> jsoft, i know.. but strangely that helped me with downloader for x, i had the same problem untill i reinstalled it
[14:23] <deformation> no errors or messages.
[14:23] <g0rb3hy> Hey can some one link me an ndiswrapper automation guide? Ive got the right driver and things but would like to know how to get it into network manager and things
[14:23] <jsoft> Ok.
[14:23] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: What do you meen. What did he say?
[14:23] <jsoft> Thanks for the help people, im outies
[14:24] <iddo> is there a good way to install firefox3 and uninstall firefox2 in gutsy? swiftfox maybe?
[14:24] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: "<jsoft> mainly init.d stuff" ?
[14:24] <murf3326> Hi folks.  I'm looking for some help with lm-sensors.  I have it installed and running (I'm seeing sensor output ok).  The problem is the sensors seem to be mislabelled.  CPU temp and M/B temp for example are reversed.  The voltages are all adrift as well.  Anyone know how to fix these issues?
[14:24] <ChrisGibbs> coal: `route add default gw 10.0.0.1`
[14:24] <kbrosnan> iddo: the manual install directions i linked to you, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[14:25] <iddo> oh
[14:25] <coal77> ChrisGibbs:  ok
[14:25] <co> hallo
[14:25] <iddo> kbrosnan: why not uninstall firefox2 ?
[14:26] <iddo> i see firefox depends on ubuntu-desktop :(
[14:26] <co> hallo where this
[14:26] <Rug> Kalzath: you just need to run:  sudo apt-get update
[14:26] <kbrosnan> iddo: because i have seen it cause problems for people and leaving it there won't cause any problems
[14:26] <tuffguy321> Can anybody advise me on the best way to connect to an ubuntu machine via a windows pc with the option of suspending the session
[14:27] <rich__> i will give the first person with the correct answer a $100, why is my stoopid disc saying device busy when its not in use
[14:27] <co> hallo
[14:27] <Rug> tuffguy321: define: connect to
[14:27] <coal77> ChrisGibbs:  "ifconfig" yes it had an ip: 10.0.0.200
[14:27] <pike_> rich__: youre using it
[14:27] <dgjones> co, You're in  the #ubuntu channel, a support channel for the Ubuntu operating system
[14:27] <dcotruta> hello 'yall
[14:27] <wols> tuffguy321: vnc or freenx
[14:27] <pike_> rich__: stand by for paypal acct
[14:27] <dcotruta> would anyone care to lend a hand with a Trident driver question?
[14:27] <co> dg jones sorry can you help me
[14:27] <tuffguy321> Rug: connect to....i.e a server installed with ubuntu desktop and me (windows vista pc) connecting ;)
[14:27] <wols> pike_: his kernel throws little nice I/O errors
[14:27] <Rug> rich__: one of your windows (usually a 'file manager' is displaying the contents of the disk
[14:28] <Rug> tuffguy321: VNC
[14:28] <rich__> no im not using it
[14:28] <coal77> ChrisGibbs:  "default route"  10.0.0.1
[14:28] <Rug> rich__: close all other windows
[14:28] <rich__> fuser - no results, umount, not mounted
[14:28] <rich__> ps -ef | grep devices, no in use
[14:28] <AngryAnt> Ok I just set up my ubuntu 7 server and connected it to the network. Trouble is I can't ssh to it on the name I gave it in setup
[14:28] <wols> rich__: have you tried another kernel yet?
[14:28] <AngryAnt> Unknown host
[14:28] <tuffguy321> Rug: I can install the vnc server via putty then connect normally?
[14:29] <Rug> AngryAnt: you need to install ssh first
[14:29] <UberPsyX> hey guys, having some troubles getting truecrypt to work, ive found a how to but the command "sudo make -d -C linux modules_prepare" throws up this error "This program built for i486-pc-linux-gnu make: *** linux modules_prepare: No such file or directory. Stop." any ideas on what im doing wrong
[14:29] <wols> rich__: as you've been told before, since your kernel throws all those funny little error messages in dmesg?
[14:29] <AngryAnt> Rug: Can't ping it either
[14:29] <dgjones> !ask | co
[14:29] <ubotu> co: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:29] <iddo> kbrosnan: that FirefoxNewVersion seems to be for old ubuntu 5.10 or 6.10, not 7.10
[14:29] <rich__> it only works with the centos live cd, but it doesnt support XFS, the full version wont mount the usb device because ubuntus bridging is useless for VMware
[14:29] <yabuk> when i'm in termial :how do I navegate in adrrs like smb://cleyton ?
[14:29] <kbrosnan> iddo: the directions are still the same
[14:29] <allobjects> I have a freshly installed gutsy desktop with both a wired and wireless card. Both work fine, however after restarting Ubuntu, the wireless does not come up automatically, I have to do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' and then everything is fine. Can anyone please help
[14:29] <rich__> there is no error messages wols, so dont talk down to me
[14:29] <co> ya wherethis
[14:29] <ChrisGibbs> coal: is there also a ip addressed assigned to the interface?
[14:29] <Rug> AngryAnt: can you ping (using IP's not names) from the server?
[14:29] <wols> rich__: there were when you showed the dmesg output
[14:30] <AngryAnt> Rug: Sec. Just ripped its head off.
[14:30] <dorka> #edubuntu
[14:30] <rich__> i bought a new disc
[14:30] <iddo> kbrosnan: but if no uninstall, why do any of it? whats wrong with just installing latest firefox3 deb e.g. swiftfox ?
[14:30] <rich__> now i have a WD passport, it does the same thing
[14:30] <Rug> AngryAnt: that's almost as bad as screwing the case back on before booting it the first time, of course it didn't work.  You are tempting Murphy!
[14:31] <rich__> my other caddies work without errors.
[14:31] <wols> rich__: is your ubuntu running inside a VMWare?
[14:31] <rich__> nope, direct
[14:31] <rich__> it was running centos in vm
[14:31] <yabuk> is there no way to do this?
[14:31] <AngryAnt> Rug: Hehe yea I know. I trusted the tutorial a bit too much
[14:32] <Rug> haha
[14:32] <kbrosnan> iddo: i dislike swiftfox as crash reports don't get sent to mozilla and i feel the tweaks they do are questionable in the amount of the speen increase in real world browsing
[14:33] <rich__> so i wasted money downgrading to a smaller disc for nothing
[14:33] <rich__> on the plus side, it does look sick and its a laptop hard disc.
[14:33] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: yes, when i write ifconfig it sayes 10.0.0.200
[14:33] <allobjects> Can someone please help with my wireless card not coming up automatically after reboot ?
[14:33] <rich__> the only other threads on the net relating to device busy are for RAID and they are user errors.
[14:34] <gilos> is there a way to tell which nvidia card I have installed in my machine?  system hardware tells me NV37GL Unknown (0x0215)
[14:34] <Rug> gilos: try lspci |grep nvidia
[14:34] <iddo> kbrosnan: ok, is there a good latest firefox3 deb or apt-get repository you recommend instead? why all the manual in FirefoxNewVersion needed?
[14:35] <Rug> gilos: try lspci |grep nVidia
[14:35] <Jowi> gilos, grep -i keyword (non-case-sensitive)
[14:35] <Rug> Jowi: thanks!
[14:35] <gilos> pretty much same thing... NV37GL  but that's not a very common controller.
[14:36] <AngryAnt> Rug: Appears theres no network on it at all
[14:36] <Rug> I never knew that one
[14:36] <Rug> AngryAnt: wierd
[14:36] <gilos> so is that like list pci components lspci?
[14:36] <Rug> yupp
[14:37] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: How do you paste on irc?
[14:37] <gilos> that's a good one to remember, thanks.
[14:37] <Rug> AngryAnt: what do you get with ifconfig
[14:37] <AngryAnt> I'm connected to the net via my router which has dhcp setup correctly with dns servers listed and I can't ping google.com
[14:37] <Rug> AngryAnt: what do you get with ifconfig
[14:37] <rich__> so whats the next step, wait for the next version of ubuntu to support external hard discs?
[14:37] <AngryAnt> Local Loopback
[14:37] <Yarcanox> is a channel operator here?
[14:37] <kbrosnan> iddo: i belive there may be one, but i don't use it. i just extract to my home folder, link the plugins I need and create a new profile http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b2/releasenotes/
[14:38] <gilos> So now my next question.  I can't get my video card type to stick in my xorg.conf it keeps defaulting back to vesa.  I've tried doing the nvidia.com download and install but still doesn't work.
[14:38] <Kalzath> AngryAnt: no eth0?
[14:38] <AngryAnt> Nop
[14:38] <Kalzath> And the computer has a network card (rather than wireless), and is plugged in?
[14:39] <AngryAnt> Yea. Both wireless and ethernet card accessible
[14:39] <iddo> kbrosnan: is it ok to link /usr/bin/firefox to the new firefox3 ?
[14:39] <AngryAnt> I was however not connected to the network during setup
[14:39] <cdavis_> How do I get apt-get to reinstall all the conf files for apache2?
[14:39] <ChrisGibbs> coal: right-click -> paste ??
[14:39] <ChrisGibbs> coal: can you try and ping 10.0.0.1 please
[14:39] <cdavis_> apt-get --reinstall install apache2 does not recreate /etc/apache2
[14:40] <Rug> AngryAnt: run    dmesg |tail    unplug network    dmesg |tail    plugin network   dmesg |tail
[14:40] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: netstat -r gave my: Destination	Gateway		genmask		Flags	MSS 	Windows irtt	iface
[14:40] <Rug> lets' see if it detects anything
[14:40] <coal77> 10.0.0.0	*		255.255.255.0	U	0	0	0	0
[14:40] <coal77> Default		10.0.0.1	0.0.0.0		UG	0	0	0	0
[14:40] <Rug> coal, !   flood
[14:40] <Rug> !flood
[14:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:41] <g0rb3hy> Could some one give me some ndiswrapper help? Ive got my windirvers installed and the module loaded fine but when I do ndiswrapper -l it has not detected the card is present
[14:41] <ChrisGibbs> rug: you have got to be kidding...... 3lines != flood......
[14:41] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: No I could not ping 10.0.0.1
[14:42] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: How do you paste on irc?
[14:42] <Jowi> cdavis, I got to leave but try with dpkg-reconfigure
[14:42] <coal77> Rug: How do you paste on irc?
[14:42] <ChrisGibbs> coal: I dont think you should be pasting, considering jug has jumped up and down twice now....
[14:42] <ChrisGibbs> coal: *rug
[14:42] <Rug> The number of lines you pasted isn't the problem, it
[14:43] <Rug> s all the funky characters
[14:43] <AngryAnt> Rug: eth0: Link is up on last go, but still unable to ping google. How can I verify that it has properly connected to my dhcp?
[14:43] <coal77> rug: How do you paste on irc?
[14:43] <kbrosnan> iddo: link /usr/local/bin to firefox as that location is more important than /usr/bin/
[14:43] <ikonia> !pastebin | coal77
[14:43] <ubotu> coal77: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:43] <Borbus> I feel stupid asking this question but.. you know on windows you can configure ffdshow loads... how do you configure ffmpeg in ubuntu?
[14:44] <ikonia> Borbus: ffmpeg is a command line tool, you configure it with command line arguments
[14:44] <Rug> Angry edit /etc/network/interfaces to include:   auto eth0 <cr> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:44] <ChrisGibbs> coal: hmmmm. Is the Ubuntu machine plugged into a switch port on the router (and nothing plugged into the WAN port)??
[14:44] <Jowi> AngryAnt, ping 216.239.59.99 (if that works then it's your dns (/etc/resolv.conf) that is wrong) *now* I have to leave
[14:44] <Rug> AngryAnt: <cr> = enter
[14:44] <g0rb3hy> dmesg lists "bad CDC descriptors" when i plug the usb wlan card back in but ndiswrapper didnt moan at any point, not sure what to try now
[14:44] <AngryAnt> Rug: Tried to ping my router, but getting Network is unreachable
[14:44] <AngryAnt> Roger
[14:44] <Borbus> ikonia, so when stuff like mplayer uses ffmpeg it is actually passing cli to ffmpeg and getting the decoded output?
[14:44] <ChrisGibbs> Rug: thanks for the tips :)
[14:44] <ikonia> Borbus: no, then it's using the libraries,
[14:45] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: Yes
[14:45] <g0rb3hy> its a bcm430 based wlan card so i know it should work!
[14:45] <Borbus> Oh..
[14:45] <Rug> ChrisGibbs: did I help you too?
[14:45] <ikonia> Borbus: but in essence yes
[14:45] <iddo> kbrosnan: so then the new firefox3 be used when firefox is called? then why not uninstall firefox2? no one will even call usr/bin/firefox anymore, no?
[14:45] <Borbus> I don't really get how the audio/video stuff works on linux.. I know how directshow works
[14:46] <Borbus> Is there any player that will give you all the options ffdshow gives you on windows?
[14:46] <bmk789_> is there a package that will route all my traffic through a proxy instead of just firefox?
[14:46] <Rug> Borbus: mplayer is the keystone.   VLC is an awesome front-end
[14:46] <Borbus> bmk789, gnome has a proxy configuration which gnome apps will use
[14:46] <Rug> bmk789: yes, you can configure your network settings
[14:47] <cdavis_> why won't aptitude reinstall apache2 recreate /etc/apache2 ?
[14:47] <Borbus> I have used both of them.. I actually find VLC to be faster in many cases
[14:47] <Yarcanox> have you noticed that irseek.com indexes this channel again?
[14:47] <Yarcanox> I would recommend having a notice for the users or something
[14:47] <Borbus> VLC performs way better on linux than it does on doze for some reason
[14:47] <ChrisGibbs> Rug: About pasting into ubuntu* channels....
[14:48] <Rug> Borbus: I find xine gives me a better output, but mplayer has more cli options, and VLC is _more_ compatable.   it's all about preference.
[14:48] <kbrosnan> iddo: from what i have seen it causes problems, i forget exactly what but i had firefox 3 installed on 7.10 and another guy had firefox 3 installed with firefox 2 removed and he had some sort of issue that did not resolve itself till he reinstalled firefox 2
[14:48] <Rug> ChrisGibbs: Ahh righto.   I've been here since Warty
[14:48] <Borbus> Is xine an alternative to ffmpeg?
[14:48] <Skitt> cdavis, did you use pruge while removing apache?
[14:48] <AngryAnt> Rug: Which editor do I use?
[14:49] <Skitt> that should remove the config-files in /etc
[14:49] <ChrisGibbs> coal: Im going to have to head off. Maybe try and find the liveCD and boot with it and check to see if the network is going.....
[14:49] <Rug> Borbus: yes & no.   ALL video programs use mplayer as the backend.   mplayer = ff*
[14:49] <DivineSpectrum> use wubi 7.10
[14:49] <DivineSpectrum> dio maiale
[14:49] <iddo> kbrosnan: ok thanks
[14:49] <Rug> AngryAnt: nano is my favorite
[14:50] <DivineSpectrum> my fuckin firefox don't download
[14:50] <Pici> !language | DivineSpectrum
[14:50] <ubotu> DivineSpectrum: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:50] <DivineSpectrum> ok ok
[14:50] <Rug> DivineSpectrum: language please.
[14:50] <Borbus> Oh right... even VLC? I thought that was basically ffmpeg and a video player bundled together.
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> alò
[14:50] <Rug> Borbus: everything as far as I know
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeee
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeee
[14:50] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: ok. thanks for you truble
[14:51] <ChrisGibbs> coal: np hope you get everything going :)
[14:51] <AngryAnt> Rug: Grooveh. Now a reboot or can I re-read the file?
[14:51] <Pici> Zanfo2win: Please stop.
[14:51] <Rug> AngryAnt: Linux means you never need to reboot!
[14:51] <DivineSpectrum> oh
[14:51] <Rug> =)
[14:51] <Borbus> So if I want to try using xine... is that all in the mplayer man page?
[14:51] <DivineSpectrum> help me!! dio ca'ato male!!
[14:51] <Rug> AngryAnt: try this:   /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:52] <AngryAnt> Rug: Thought as much. I'm an OS X user for every day work (hold the flames :p )
[14:52] <linux4me> how do i stop the update manager once it has started. i have 148 updates to install and want to shut it down
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> my firefow don't download files
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> why???
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> firefox
[14:52] <Borbus> DivineSpectrum, not really sure what you mean... elaborate.
[14:53] <ikonia> linux4me: not wise to stop it mid download/install
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> i'm italian
[14:53] <Rug> Borbus: no.    xine, vlc, kmplayer, etc will not show mplay man pages and vice versa.     You can use mplay alone from the cli, it is just 'complicated'
[14:53] <ikonia> !it | DivineSpectrum
[14:53] <ubotu> DivineSpectrum: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> ah
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> thanks
[14:53] <AngryAnt> Rug: I can now ping google.com, but I can still not ping back to the ubuntu install
[14:54] <rich__> ahh i know why that disc doesnt work
[14:54] <Rug> AngryAnt: just use the IPs for now
[14:54] <linux4me> ikonia - i think i already closed the download package window but the update manager window is still showing with the spinning icon
[14:54] <AngryAnt> Rug: Could you link me to an article on how to set up the hostname properly?
[14:55] <Rug> AngryAnt: no;   nano /etc/hosts
[14:55] <Rug> or
[14:55] <Rug> nano /etc/hostname
[14:55] <Rug> rather
[14:55] <AngryAnt> Thanks :)
[14:55] <linux4me> ikonia - trying a restart! ;)
[14:55] <DivineSpectrum> is callonisi
[14:56] <Rug> AngryAnt: join #temp
[14:59] <Madhag> hi
[14:59] <Madhag> Installing ubuntu for the first time
[14:59] <FLX> hey
[15:00] <anderswc> I am installing ubuntu as a dual boot. I have 4 partitions, 2 for my other OS, one for swap and one for linux
[15:00] <Madhag> keep getting out of range with my screen?
[15:00] <anderswc> what format should my linux partition be?
[15:00] <g0rb3hy> IS there some i can manually download the ubuntu restricted driver for bc43X based wireless cards?
[15:00] <g0rb3hy> Ive installed from a CD and cant get netsupport without it, I want to copy it over with a usb stick
[15:01] <pike_> anderswc: usually ext3 is recommeneded
[15:01] <anderswc> ok
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> download wubi 7.10 and use this
[15:01] <allobjects> After reboot, my wireless always needs a kick via 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' can someone please help ?
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> in windows
[15:01] <w4ett> Madhag: sounds like you need to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[15:01] <anderswc> the installer says no root file system identified
[15:01] <anderswc> how do I tell it what root system to use?
[15:01] <Madhag> disk is clean
[15:01] <heag> how to Qemu fullscreen? :(
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> mannaggia la maronn
[15:02] <Madhag> should I do a text install,
[15:02] <sylverfox> hi all
[15:02] <pike_> anderswc: you need to make one partition '/'
[15:02] <crolle17> can you please name me one firefox-add-on that can manage my booksmarks? i know there is one that saves the bookmarks externally on a server and you can download wherever you are and have everywhere your booksmarks.
[15:02] <MenZa> browser sync, crolle17
[15:02] <jimcooncat> heag, one way is to use vnc, but I know that's probably not what you're looking for
[15:02] <crolle17> but i don't know the name and google don't know it too....
[15:02] <w4ett> Madhag: that or boot into safe graphics mode
[15:03] <pike_> anderswc: you can also do a seperate /home partition too if ya want id allocate maybe 8-10 gigs for / and the rest for /home
[15:03] <MenZa> google know; they develop it. ;)
[15:03] <sylverfox> after install i saw that i didn't mentioned to mount my partitions with read-write permissions
[15:03] <Madhag> tried the safe graphics and got the same
[15:03] <allobjects> crolle17: BlueOrganiser
[15:03] <sylverfox> how can i repair this now<
[15:03] <sylverfox> ?
[15:03] <Madhag> will  try again
[15:03] <pike_> anderswc: i think the field is 'mountpoint'
[15:04] <cdecarlo> how do I get rid of that underscore after my name?
[15:04] <cdecarlo> well not here I guess
[15:04] <pike_> cdecarlo: hunt down and kill the person already registered
[15:04] <crolle17> MenZa, ah thank you. i found it: foxmark
[15:05] <cdecarlo> pike_: looks like you're still hunting
[15:05] <allobjects> can someone please help me with my wireless card which needs manual network restart after a reboot
[15:06] <sylverfox> could please somebody tell me how to fix an fstab to mount my partitions in read-write mode?
[15:07] <pike_> sylverfox: what file system?
[15:07] <sylverfox> ext3
[15:08] <rich__> is there an alternative kernel for ubuntu 7.10?
[15:08] <rich__> one where usb works?
[15:08] <pike_> sylverfox: defaults  should be only thing in fstab id think.. now remember that the ext3 file system supports perm so if you need access to a dir or fileyou need to chown or chmod it like you would a dir in /
[15:09] <pike_> sylverfox: you can though test by sudo mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint i guess
[15:09] <ikonia> rich__: usb does work on the kernel
[15:09] <rich__> not for my external hard discs is dont
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: well, thats a different senario
[15:10] <Madhag> haha ot X
[15:10] <rich__> is there a way of getting them to work
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: what happens when you plug the drive in ?
[15:10] <Madhag> got  X I mean
[15:10] <rich__> i cant mkfs, thats the issue
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: that's a totally different senario
[15:11] <ikonia> rich__: do you get a device file
[15:11] <toni_> rich__,  which external drive is ?
[15:11] <rich__> WD Passport
[15:11] <allobjects> Anyone have a suggestion why my wireless connection does not work after a reboot until I manually restart networking ?
[15:11] <ikonia> rich__: do you have a device file for it when you plug it in
[15:11] <mikebeecham> does anyone know if it's possible to remove the small arrow next to the menu icon in the panel?
[15:12] <rich__> yeah i do, i cant alter the partitions
[15:12] <rich__> but i cant create f
[15:12] <rich__> filesystems on it
[15:12] <truna> allobjects, how do you even manually enable it?
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: which device does it assign to it
[15:12] <jmmm> boas alguem
[15:12] <rich__> or the seagate desktop etiher.
[15:12] <rich__> sdb1
[15:12] <Juan_Eddy> Hola
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so the device is /dev/sdb
[15:12] <jmmm> me pode explicar uma cena
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: when you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" do you see a partition table ok
[15:12] <Madhag> stilldoes ubuntu support at red 9200?
[15:12] <pike_> Juan_Eddy: hi :)
[15:13] <Madhag> rad 9200 I mean
[15:13] <Juan_Eddy> hi
[15:13] <allobjects> truna:  'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[15:13] <Madhag> graphics card
[15:13] <pike_> Madhag: 9200 card should be supported super well id think.. for an ati
[15:13] <toni_> Madhag,  yes it should
[15:13] <rich__> yeah partitions are fine, i created a linux one
[15:14] <rich__> several times infact, been doing this for three days now, cant find anything on the net
[15:14] <fraujansen> hi! you know how can i rebuild the kde-menu? i've reinstalled linux and i have plenty of old-menu-entries... how can i fix this?
[15:14] <Madhag> thanks, cause I am having installation problems
[15:14] <ikonia> rich__: can you please show me the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[15:14] <ikonia> rich__: please put it in a pastebin
[15:15] <toni_> when i open webpage with gnash plugin the temperature of my cpu raises from 47 t o57 :)
[15:15] <pike_> fraujansen: you have a dir in your home called .kde i think.. im not a kde guy but if you mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and alt-ctrl-backspace should work
[15:15] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50717/
[15:16] <ttt-> is there something free like photoshop that i can download?
[15:16] <truna> allobjects, at boot when you type ifconfig, does your interface already has an ip address?
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ikonia.. Fixed the networking problem...  Replaced the el-cheapo router the guy had...
[15:16] <allobjects> ttt-: Gimp
[15:16] <ttt-> ok thanks
[15:16] <rich__> oh sorry wrong one
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ttt-: See if it is not already installed
[15:16] <truna> ttt-, umm try also blender, its open sourced and have version for different platforms too
[15:17] <truna> including window
[15:17] <ttt-> isnt blender a 3d thing
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp
[15:17] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[15:17] <jude> what is the vga mode in the kernel parameters for color depth 24 and resolution 1280x1024
[15:17] <jude> ??
[15:17] <truna> ttt-, yeah it can do 3D but if you look only in 2D it works fine
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> vesa can go to 1024
[15:17] <ttt-> oh cool
[15:18] <fraujansen> pike: thank u!
[15:18] <pike_> np
[15:18] <allobjects> truna: I believe so but would have to quit here to confirm
[15:18] <rich__> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50718/
[15:18] <ikonia> rich__: thats sdc - is that the right device ?
[15:19] <rich__> yeah
[15:19] <ikonia> rich__: what file system do you want on it
[15:19] <rich__> anything
[15:19] <ikonia> rich__: ok so if you did "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1" what hapens
[15:19] <allobjects> truna: Would you like me to confirm that ?
[15:19] <rich__> it doesnt matter they all say device in use or busy, same with the seagate, but my cheap caddies all work fine
[15:20] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy
[15:20] <ikonia> rich__: can you please show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin.
[15:20] <rich__> no, its not mounted
[15:20] <allobjects> truna: btw, in my case I have it set to a static ip not via dhcp so I'm not sure what that will prove
[15:20] <ikonia> rich__: fuser /dev/sdc1
[15:20] <tinman> Sirs 0/
[15:20] <rich__> and fusee returns no results etiher, its not in use, this is the point
[15:20] <rich__> the kernel is the issue, Centos5 will work with it
[15:21] <ikonia> rich__: actually fuser won't work on device files, so sratch that
[15:21] <tinman> i have a apt-get problem
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > tinman
[15:21] <tinman> .: 4: Can't open /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:21] <tinman> .: 35: Can't open /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:21] <rich__> yeah thats true
[15:21] <jaypro> im having difficulty unpacking a jar file.  isnt it "jar -xf *.jar"?
[15:22] <toni_> rich__, is a known bug?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: What is it you are trying to run or install
[15:22] <rich__> Ikonia, its one of those situations where you want to smash it against the wall because it doesnt make any sense
[15:22] <ikonia> rich__: just give me a moment to ponder that through
[15:22] <ikonia> rich__: I assume lsusb sees it
[15:22] <rich__> toni__ i have searched the web for hours and posted on ubuntu, no replies except the usual, umount the FS response
[15:22] <Pici> !choose
[15:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about choose - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:23] <rich__> yeah lsusb gives me : Bus 005 Device 018: ID 1058:0702 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[15:23] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: a game called moon-buggy but i think it might be apt-get and not the file
[15:23] <Pici> tinman: How exactly did you run the command?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !find moon
[15:23] <tinman> see, few days ago,  had fle system problem and did a e2fsck, not sure if it's fixed or not
[15:23] <ubotu> Found: kmoon, gkrellmoon, moon-buggy, moon-buggy-esd, moon-lander (and 2 others)
[15:23] <rich__> if i can alter the partition table, i can write to the disc, so why not be able to mkfs, thats the bit that confuses me.
[15:23] <MadHag> davidman I keep getting 'out of range' when I install :(
[15:23] <tinman> apt-get install package
[15:23] <Pici> tinman: sudo?
[15:23] <scguy318> MadHag: try an alternate install
[15:24] <MadHag> done both
[15:24] <tinman> i have a root terminal open
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Ok, what is the command you are giving to install it?
[15:24] <tinman> apt-get install moon-buggy-esd
[15:24] <ikonia> rich__: did you delete a partition before re-creating ?
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: how did you get a root terminal?
[15:24] <tinman> and it's in root terminal
[15:24] <MadHag> I will get there
[15:24] <Pici> tinman: I have a feeling that your filesystem is still messed up.  Can you access /usr/share/debconf/confmodule at all? i.e: cat /usr/share/debconf/confmodule ?
[15:25] <ikonia> rich__: I have seen a similar yet obscure bug if you did
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: sudo apt-get install moon-buggy-esd
[15:25] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i added a root termaial
[15:25] <MadHag> just spent a week getting Solaris to see my NIC
[15:25] <tinman> and it IS root
[15:25] <tinman> but fine, i will use sudo
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: I dont doubt you...  but it will help us help you
[15:26] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card?
[15:26] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i did, same error
[15:26] <tinman> root@compremised:/home/fastfinger#
[15:26] <tinman> it IS root
[15:26] <tinman> lol
[15:26] <tinman> i am not lieing
[15:26] <ikonia> tinman: type "id"
[15:26] <Pici> tinman: Did you see my question above?
[15:26] <truna> allobjects, take a look at your /var/log/messages and boot log to see how the network initialized at boot, it may give you a clue if it acquired an ip or not
[15:26] <ikonia> tinman: why are you the root user ?
[15:26] <tinman> r# id
[15:26] <tinman> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[15:26] <tinman> ikonia: to install?
[15:27] <gandalfcome> my smbfs mount in /etc/fstab stalls my computer on bootup, even though mount -a is working when the computer is running
[15:27] <ikonia> tinman: surly you should be using sudo
[15:27] <anderswc> hello, in "network tools" window i want to switch from lo to eth0
[15:27] <tinman> i know, i know
[15:27] <tinman> lol
[15:27] <gandalfcome> thanks in advance
[15:27] <anderswc> but when I switch to that, i cant "save changes"
[15:27] <anderswc> if i close the window and open it again, it's lo again :(
[15:28] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card? ndiswrapper never lists the hardware as present
[15:28] <tinman> soo :x
[15:28] <Symmetria> lo all, does anyone here use pure-ftpd under ubuntu, and if so can anyone tell me exactly where I have to put the sym links to support virtual hosting (Im using the version without mysql as everything is anonymous anyway)
[15:28] <rich__> ikonia, yeah i deleted the ntfs ones and then created the linux partition.
[15:28] <tinman> apt-get install apt? LOl
[15:29] <MadHag> cant wait for my shiney new Ubuntu 7.10
[15:29] <Pici> tinman: I have a feeling that your filesystem is still messed up.  Can you access /usr/share/debconf/confmodule at all? i.e: cat /usr/share/debconf/confmodule ?
[15:29] <MadHag> but I may have to, out of range again
[15:29] <kanuha> I've lost sound on most everything except totem. what can be wrong?
[15:29] <g0rb3hy> guess not... ok a different question...
[15:29] <truna> anderswc, why do you switch to lo to eth0 ? whats the reason?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Could you have been using that root terminal a little to often on gui apps perhaps
[15:30] <g0rb3hy> If ndiswrapper never displays "hardware present" should i carry on trying different windows drivers?
[15:30] <tinman>  cat  /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:30] <tinman> cat: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory
[15:30] <Symmetria> heh soon as I get this virtual hosting story right under pure-ftpd I can bring up the new .za ubuntu mirror
[15:30] <anderswc> truna, I want to access wireless internet
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> g0rb3hy: Is this pci or pcmcia card?
[15:30] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: huh?
[15:30] <anderswc> with lo, I can't
[15:30] <g0rb3hy> Jack_Sparrow: usb
[15:30] <tinman> i use the root terminal only for stuff that need sudo :X
[15:30] <truna> anderswc, you will never with lo, never
[15:30] <tinman> mostly
[15:31] <anderswc> truna, exactly
[15:31] <anderswc> that's why I want to switch to eth0
[15:31] <truna> anderswc, then why even try that?
[15:31] <anderswc> the default was lo
[15:31] <anderswc> i want to switch it to eth0
[15:31] <truna> anderswc, nope, never was lo ever set to be your wifi nic
[15:31] <tinman> pici? ;x no such file, now what?
[15:32] <MadHag> I have a chance to progress with the installation in low graphics mode, I presume I can finish the installation and change things a bit later on!
[15:32] <AngryElf> is there a Gmail notifier for ubuntu?
[15:32] <anderswc> truna, I don't understand
[15:32] <rich__> ikonia__. you said you saw a similar bug, any ideas what it is or where i can start to look for the epic maron of an issue
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Some people go a little nuts using sudo for everything...  Not that you have..  Did you ever answer pici's question above?
[15:32] <Pici> tinman: You said you had filesystem issues?
[15:32] <truna> anderswc, default configs never uses lo as the nic name
[15:32] <pike_> AngryElf: i believe google provides a linux app
[15:32] <MadHag> :me yes dave
[15:32] <MadHag> ok
[15:32] <ikonia> rich__: the bug I'm refering to is quite obscure, so it may be nothing
[15:32] <pike_> AngryElf: also you can setup pop3 and use your local mail client
[15:32] <anderswc> nic name? no I'm talking about the network device I'm using
[15:32] <ledaiz> hmmmm
[15:32] <tinman> Pici: yeah, and i also did a fsck when mounted (I know now but i didn't know then)
[15:33] <g0rb3hy> Jack_Sparrow: Its a Usb wireless adapter witha bcm430 chip inside
[15:33] <truna> anderswc, you will never with lo, never
[15:33] <tinman> i did a fsck on root partition when it was mounted :X
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> g0rb3hy: SOunds like a hardware problem, but see if someone else has any thoughts on it.
[15:33] <rich__> whats more strange is that im the only one with the issue according to google. that seems strange as there must be a lot of people with 7.10 and wd passports or seagate desktops.
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Ouch
[15:33] <qebab> Hi there. I've been installing Ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 4100, and a problem has turned out. The Live CD worked fine, but when I try to boot to it, I get a blank, black screen. The laptop has an ATI card of some sort, and I've heard that it doesn't go too well with X. Is there anything I can do?
[15:33] <ikonia> rich__: on some usb disks if you delete a partition and then write a partition the new partition is not visable until the disk is rescanned / or a reboot as the partition my show up in fdisk but the writes written to the partition table don't take effect until the disk is re-scanned
[15:33] <truna> anderswc, thats what lo, wlan0, eth0, eth1 are called nic name
[15:33] <mikebeecham> does anyone know if it's possible to remove the small arrow next to the menu icon in the panel?
[15:33] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i didn't know :'(
[15:34] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: so i am better off with a format?
[15:34] <anderswc> truna, ahh, I understand
[15:34] <ikonia> rich__: it used to happen a lot if you deleted a partition while the file system was mounted
[15:34] <truna> anderswc, except lo that  is not really a nic
[15:34] <tinman> cause apt-get is only thing with serious issue
[15:34] <tinman> i think
[15:34] <ikonia> rich__: but locks where put in place to stop that, so it's quite rare now
[15:34] <MadHag> looks like I am destined to stay with SuSE
[15:34] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card? ndiswrapper never lists the hardware as present
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Wait for Pici.. he may have something up his sleeve...
[15:34] <pike_> qebab: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose vesa driver and hit enter for default on everything else then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:34] <anderswc> So for wireless I'll need wlan0 right?
[15:34] <randorfer> MadHag whats going on that you say that?
[15:34] <pike_> qebab: should get you back up
[15:35] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: it doesn't like the "checksum" of a file or device id
[15:35] <qebab> pike_: thanks a lot :)
[15:35] <MadHag> graphics
[15:35] <truna> rich__, always do a sync, sync, sync 3 times before unmounting partitions
[15:35] <MadHag> out of range with installation
[15:35] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: could u elaborate?
[15:35] <Pici> tinman: to your knowledge, you can try running a fsck while in recovery mode while everything is unmounted, but it might just be time to backup and reinstall/reformat.
[15:35] <randorfer> madhag you can get the same graphics performance in any distro those projects are not related / tied to any specific one
[15:35] <truna> anderswc, you have to learn to prefix with a nic on your responses or else i will miss yours
[15:35] <anderswc> truna, sorry
[15:35] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: http://www.mepis.org/node/10321
[15:35] <MadHag> just had the chance to go on with low graphics mode, I said do it now it is hanging a bit
[15:36] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: ty
[15:36] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: that gives a reasonable explination
[15:36] <rich__> but i have other discs that i delete, mksfs all the time and they are as good as gold, its just these new shiny ones that come in closed cases that are uesless
[15:36] <tinman> Pici: yessir, now i know to run e2fsck when drive is unmounted and from previous bad experience mt /home is in different partition :X
[15:36] <rich__> if i get an old disc and shove it into an old caddie its fine.
[15:36] <tinman> so i can safely only format my /root right?
[15:36] <anderswc> truna, my computer has a wireless card, but wlan0 does not show up
[15:36] <Pici> tinman: Yep.
[15:36] <ikonia> rich__: it's because of udev and the usb bus
[15:36] <allobjects> truna: FYI, reading /var/log/messages
[15:36] <truna> rich__, new and plug n play...USB drives takes awhile to sync up...so always sync sync sync
[15:36] <ikonia> rich__: it's a pretty rare situation
[15:36] <randorfer> anderswc run iwconfig and post the results
[15:36] <tinman> :D Thank you Pici and Jack_Sparrow
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: the livecd will let you keep your home and only format /   yes
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Sorry it was not a better answer
[15:37] <tinman> it's okey
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Use manual partitioning
[15:37] <anderswc> randorfer, it says lo and eth0 have no wireless extensions
[15:37] <tinman> i was about to format last time but live cd didnt let me
[15:37] <tinman> it told me I HAD to run e2fsck
[15:37] <tinman> lol
[15:37] <truna> anderswc, what do you get when you use the network manager?  system->administration-> network?
[15:38] <randorfer> anderswc have you done anything to setup your wireless yet or are you just beginning to try?
[15:38] <randorfer> truna, iwconfig said nothing for him ie network manager will show nothing
[15:38] <anderswc> randorfer, I have done nothing, I am trying to figure out what to do :)
[15:39] <truna> randorfer, i advised him, if not addressed to me, i miss messages..so i missed what was addressed to you and not me
[15:39] <anderswc> truna, dito randerfer
[15:39] <randorfer> anderswc allright then we will start from step one, run lspci | grep Wireless
[15:39] <tqt1586_> hi
[15:39] <randorfer> truna, ahh sorry didn't mean to come off badly
[15:39] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: Thanks for that, so if i make my own 99-custom.rules with the info from lsusb -v it should tell the OS to use ndiswrapper when i insert the device?
[15:39] <truna> thanks randorfer for taking over..have to deliver something now..laters
[15:39] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: that could work
[15:39] <randorfer> truna, have a good one
[15:39] <truna> thanks
[15:40] <rich__> ok so i need to delete the partition then sync sync sync and it will work
[15:40] <anderswc> randorfer, 06:00.0 Ethernet controller Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:41] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc: Device or resource busy
[15:41] <randorfer> anderswc wonderfull
[15:41] <anderswc> :)
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: you don't do /dev/sdc
[15:41] <tinman> i have one more question, i installed windows today, after months, and i got sync ut of range, any idea how to fix this on windows? ctrl+alt+ + didn't work :x
[15:41] <rich__> omg this is PAIN on a whole new level,
[15:41] <randorfer> anderswc one second and ill get you up and running
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: sdc1
[15:41] <anderswc> randorfer, thanks :)
[15:41] <rich__> ?
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: also - reboot so you know your disk partition tables have JUST been read, then try
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: sdc is the disk, sdc1 is the partition
[15:41] <rich__> ok so what are the command?
[15:41] <rich__> yeah, and?
[15:42] <ikonia> rich__: "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1"
[15:42] <rich__> yeah
[15:42] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy
[15:43] <rich__> it just doesnt want to work, ive rebooted, deleted, synced, it just doesnt want to work, unless i use centos5
[15:43] <randorfer> anderswc look at this file and run the corresponding commands, if you have any troubles give me a shout and ill trouble shoot for you http://pastebin.archlinux.org/23042
[15:43]  * MadHag shouts and screams
[15:43] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so reboot and lets see what happens. Reboot - don't delete, don't sync don't do anything, just reboot and lets check some stuff
[15:43] <rich__> ok
[15:43] <rich__> brb
[15:43] <ikonia> MadHag: stop using /me commands please, this channel is busy enough with random outburst
[15:43] <MadHag> ok
[15:44] <randorfer> anderswc, you lucky if you had been trying to do this about 2 months ago there was no native wireless support for your card, had to use ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[15:44] <noroot> ikonia: u used to be pretty active on LFS channel, when shifted to ubuntu!!
[15:44] <ikonia> noroot no, I'm still very very active on LFS
[15:44] <ikonia> noroot: that is my primary project still
[15:45] <allobjects> randorfer: I need to manually restart networking whenever I reboot for my wireless to work...any ideas ?
[15:45] <noroot> ikonia: what next after BLFS
[15:45] <ikonia> noroot: I don't work on BLFS, but if you want to chat on that I suggest we join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <noroot> allobjects: using modprobe
[15:45] <randorfer> allobjects:  are you running network manager or just plain jain network
[15:45] <Daykun> :( У мну не получается настроить раздачу Интернета на ноутбук ( Можете сказать, что я делаю не так?
[15:45] <lonejack> hi all, problem, I connected a new HD to the system, I can I get in ?
[15:46] <MadHag> SQUASHFS error
[15:46] <MadHag> lots of them
[15:46] <Zeyelth> I'm trying to decrypt one of my server harddrives, but Ubuntu appears to lack the appropriate encryption algo ("Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping. Check kernel for support for the blowfish-cbc-plain cipher spec...").
[15:46] <randorfer> allobjects:  if you dont know thats fine we can find out
[15:46] <Pici> !ru | Daykun
[15:46] <noroot> ikonia: actually u helped me when i was trying LFS first time, just wanted to say thanks
[15:46] <Zeyelth> How would I go about fixing that?
[15:46] <Daykun> hello, people!!! Help me share Internet connection to the laptop
[15:46] <ubotu> Daykun: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: Did you move the existing drive to a different cable/location
[15:46] <ikonia> noroot: your more than welcome, nice to see you getting along
[15:46] <dbrewer_rjr> does anyone think i can find a paid tech support person for ubuntu that could also handle the ispconfig package i installed during the 'perfect feisty' setup from howtoforge??? Where would I post a request for this??
[15:47] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: canonical do paid suport
[15:47] <Pici> dbrewer_rjr: contact canonical support
[15:47] <J-_> Upon restarting, I got an error starting the gnome settings daemon. here's the pastebin; http://pastebin.ca/841357 (that was shown in a window when I booted into gnome) My theme and everything else is messed up. what can I do to fix it?
[15:47] <randorfer> Zeyelth should be in a crypto package somewhere, try apt-cache serach crypto and look at what you find
[15:47] <basy> some pages never stop downloading on Konqueror and Firefox too, when i turn off javascript everithing is OK, what is wrong with javasctipt, how to fix?
[15:47] <roma2k> hi all
[15:47] <Sonja> how do i tell firefox to send mailto to thunderbird instead of evolution??
[15:47] <randorfer> dbrewer_rjr just ask you question in here you may get support
[15:48] <allobjects> randorfer: I think I am running netwokr manager as this is a fresh gutsy install, however I have my wirless set on static ip aswell as my wired nic
[15:48] <roma2k> oops... this is not russian server?
[15:48] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: no, is an old HD I removed momentary the cd because I need to get my old files...
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: I thought it was somewhere in about:config  in firefox
[15:48] <roma2k> есть кто из РФ???
[15:48] <J-_> !english
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[15:48] <allobjects> randorfer: I have tried removing tick from wired nic but that does not make any difference
[15:49] <randorfer> Sonja those settings (recieving mail) are all handled by the correspondings aps (thunderbird / evolution) not by firebird, you need to setup the email accounts in there if I read your question correctly
[15:49] <julemand101> when i try install the packages flashplugin-nonfree on my 64 bit computer it give a "md5sum mismatch" error. The md5sum in the packages is not updateted to the new flash version.
[15:49] <Pici> !ru | roma2k
[15:49] <ubotu> roma2k: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:49] <Fatih_Akdeniz> slm
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: Assuming these are ide do you have two cables or one..?
[15:49] <Zeyelth> randorfer: I'm not getting anything related when grepping for blowfish. Only perl packages.
[15:49] <randorfer> allobjects but it works when you restart the network manager?
[15:49] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: hmm no joy, but it has helped me understand some more things! =)
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > julemand101
[15:49] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: two
[15:49] <roma2k> ок =)
[15:49] <BlkGhost> can someone help me setup compiz on Ubuntu it seems none of the Effects will start up ???
[15:49] <dbrewer_rjr> we are experiencing a latency issue on a brand new server we configured with feisty and ispconfig. it serves up web pages slower than our 3 year old server!! we need help fast.
[15:49] <randorfer> Zeyelth blowfish is a common crypto package I think it is in just one of the larger crypto packages, google for it
[15:50] <julemand101> !flashissues
[15:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:50] <randorfer> allobjects what is the result of lspci | grep Wireless
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: IS the cable you are uing primary or secondary.. sounds like you need to change a jumper
[15:50] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Googling for blowfish-cbc-plain returns 0 results...
[15:51] <Sonja> randorfer so i can tell thunderbird to catch all mailto links opened from firefox?
[15:51] <allobjects> randorfer: FYI I also have my wired nick eth cable removed thinking network manager and roaming mode were playing a part but no luck
[15:51] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: I knowtice there is only one "choise", how can I find out what those choises equate to?
[15:51] <Sonja> there's no place in ubuntu where i can say that i want thunderbird to be my default mail app for everything?
[15:51] <try> Enable compression on the VPN link can improve the net speed??
[15:51] <randorfer> Zeyleth sudo apt-get install libcrypt-blowfish-perl
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Prefered applications under system
[15:52] <randorfer> Sonja ahh, thats what you mean, no that does need to be setup in firefox, I thought you were asking how to recieve mail
[15:52] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Why perl? Perl shouldn't have anything to do with cryptsetup.
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: I thought it was somewhere in about:config  in firefox  search for mailto
[15:52] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: I left it as it is, cable select. The problem is taht I don't know how the system calls this new HD...
[15:52] <MadHag> is there a verbose mode for ubuntu installation?
[15:52] <randorfer> Zeyelth:  blowfish was implemented in perl in that package I believe
[15:52] <g0rb3hy> When i insert a USB device and it says "chooseing configuration #1" how can i figure out what those choises are?
[15:53] <randorfer> Zeyelth try it and see what happens
[15:53] <ikonia> MadHag: look at other terminals during the install
[15:53] <Sonja> ok
[15:53] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Testing, though I think I've tried this before.
[15:53] <MartianLobster> I have a new ubuntu laptop, with mozilla 2.0.   It doesn't play nice with logmein.com  Here are the errors:  http://acumen.dyndns.biz/logmein.error2.txt       Logmein.com works fine with my old gentoo laptop running mozilla 1.5.   Does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: are you sure your cable is a cable select type and how is the jumper set on the other drive
[15:53] <scguy318> MadHag: verbose? like text-mode?
[15:53] <randorfer> allobjects:  what was the result of lspci | grep wireless
[15:53] <randorfer> allobjects:  what was the result of lspci | grep Wireless
[15:53] <MadHag> I want to know whats going on
[15:53] <scguy318> MadHag: you can tail /var/log/messages if you want
[15:53] <ikonia> MadHag: check the other tty's during the install
[15:53] <MadHag> when it installs
[15:53] <Zeyelth> Nope, still getting the same result... Brb, I'll try rebooting.
[15:53] <allobjects> randorfer: sorry, missed your follow up... 1. lspci | grep Wireless returns nothing and 2. Yes it work when I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: F6 at start or install and remove quiet
[15:54] <g0rb3hy> I dont know what $devpath would be in /sys/$devpath/device/bConfigurationValue  =s
[15:54] <MadHag> ok
[15:54] <randorfer> allobjects what does lspci | grep Ethernet return
[15:54] <g0rb3hy> and I want to cat bConfigurationValue
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: also try F6 noapic  if you are having trouble getting live desktop
[15:55] <mattva01> can anyone tell me why  Soyuz is giving me this  error :dpkg-source: error: Files field contains invalid filename `apjava_1.0.0.-1ubuntu1.tar.gz?
[15:55] <randorfer> allobjects:  if you want we can continue to troubleshoot this other wise I can give you a "hack" that will make it work, which would you prefer?
[15:55] <godzirra>  /join #android
[15:55] <godzirra> oops.
[15:55] <ikonia> mattva01: looks like the file name is not valid any more
[15:55] <mattva01> ?
[15:55] <allobjects> randorfer: lspci | grep ethernet returns   02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
[15:55] <randorfer> allobjects:  the hack is to simply put sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in your system -> preference -> sessions
[15:56] <ikonia> mattva01: the source package is looking for a tar file that has the wrong name
[15:56] <MadHag> loads of errors, must be a bad disk
[15:56] <Roge> last time i tried ubuntu when i tried to enable desktop effects "on this same machine" it told me i needed to use a restricted driver and installed it for me this time round its just saying desktop effects could not be enabled. ive tried doing it through the screens config in system > administration but it doesnt stick when i log out and in it reverts back to the generic
[15:56] <randorfer> allobjects:  is your wireless usb?
[15:56] <JC_Denton_> I've put a ubuntu hd into another machine and X server is saying no screens found. How do I get it to reconfigure
[15:56] <MadHag> I am now in ubuntu but with no screen
[15:56] <MadHag> any command line experts out there
[15:57] <ikonia> Nephlite_: boot into safe mode "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[15:57] <MadHag> alt f2 and take it from there
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: recovery mode  then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:57] <Roge> im no expert MadHag but what are you trying to do
[15:57] <randorfer> MadHag, im comfortable on the cl whats your questions
[15:57] <allobjects> randorfer: would the hack mean need to enter sudo password each time ? and no the wireless is not usb it is a D-Link PCI 510 I think
[15:57] <ikonia> MadHag: what do you want
[15:57] <MadHag> just installed but got no screen
[15:57] <AngryElf> when I get a new mail in evolution that little blinky thing comes up inthe panel -- but when I click it, my new email doesn't pop up on the screen, any wayt to make that happen/
[15:57] <Kalzath> You have no screen?
[15:57] <MadHag> I heard the music :)
[15:57] <Kalzath> You have no monitor?
[15:57] <MadHag> nope
[15:57] <ikonia> MadHag: what do you mean, got no screen
[15:57] <MadHag> yep
[15:57] <randorfer> allobjects, no you wouldn't need to enter your sudo passwd each time because we would change one other file aswell
[15:57] <Pici> !who
[15:57] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:57] <MadHag> out of range
[15:58] <ikonia> MadHag: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:58] <Kalzath> Aah, so you can get to the console, just not into X?
[15:58] <ikonia> MadHag: make sure you select the "vesa" driver
[15:58] <MadHag> cant see jack
[15:58] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Rebooting after installing it helped, thanks.
[15:58]  * Kalzath hugs ikonia
[15:58] <Kalzath> What they said :)
[15:58] <randorfer> Zeyelth:  np
[15:59] <MadHag> thing is I must be at the installation part
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: ???
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: Does alt-F2 give you cli?
[15:59] <MadHag> because I have done nothing with root yet
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: you just said you where are the command line prompt
[15:59] <randorfer> allobjects, if you are going to use the session fix you need to edit your /etc/sudoers file and uncomment this line %wheel  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SETENV: ALL
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: you don't do anything with root
[15:59] <Pici> MadHag: Are you on the LiveCD right now?
[15:59] <MadHag> I tried to install
[15:59] <MadHag> no screen
[16:00] <MadHag> but ready to install now I think
[16:00] <randorfer> madhag, did it leave you at a command line?
[16:00] <allobjects> randorfer: I appreciate your help and I don't wish to waste your time, if the hack is most practical then lets go with that, but I think I would rather really understand what's up here
[16:00] <MadHag> I am blind to all
[16:00] <ikonia> MadHag: please be clear, you said you had installed
[16:00] <Pici> MadHag: You didnt answer my question, are you using the LiveCD?
[16:00] <MadHag> listen
[16:00] <Pici> !enter | MadHag
[16:00] <ubotu> MadHag: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:00] <MadHag> ubuntu is diffeerent
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: Did you get to a screen that says start or install
[16:01] <randorfer> allobjects, if I was more familiar with your wireless card I could offer more help but as it is I would be googling for answers and the hack will work for you
[16:01] <MadHag> it seems to have installed to a place where I can now install
[16:01] <MadHag> but I have no screen
[16:01] <pmratpoison> hello! Gutsy AMD64. I need help w/ VLC. I'm using ATI's new fglrx driver w/ compiz enabled. I have solved the issue of video playback by defaulting to the X11 video output method. My problem is that when in fullscreen, the subs look extremely large
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: installed to a place where you can now install ?
[16:01] <Pici> MadHag: I dont know what you are talking about.  If you remove the Ubuntu CD, does your system boot to Ubuntu?
[16:01] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow thanks but after going through the default settings and setting via as my driver I have the same prob
[16:01] <randorfer> allobjects, if you are interested I would suggest you do the same (ie google ubuntu YOUR CARD HERE) and read the forum posts reguarding it
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: slow down and try to explain clearly
[16:01] <MadHag> I dld from the site, burnt to a disk
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: are you currently booting from the cd rom
[16:01] <MadHag> ran the disk and have this strange experience
[16:02] <Sonja> what's the full path to thunderbird in ubuntu?
[16:02] <MadHag> yes
[16:02] <Sonja> i need to set up about:config in firefox
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: Dont remember the problem.. but I thought I said to set to vesa driver not vi
[16:02] <randorfer> Sonja, locate thunderbird
[16:02] <MadHag> its fine on my laptop
[16:02] <randorfer> Sonja, and find out?
[16:02] <Sonja> how do i locate it?
[16:02] <allobjects> randorfer: the strange thing is I'm using the same card in 3 other machines here
[16:02] <ikonia> Sonja: the command is locate
[16:02] <Sonja> or is thaht a console command?
[16:02] <Sonja> oh neat
[16:02] <Pici> MadHag: You need to download the Alternate CD from ubuntu's download page, This works on a wider range of hardware than the liveCD.
[16:02] <Pici> !alternate | MadHag
[16:02] <ubotu> MadHag: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[16:02] <JC_Denton_> ah the graphics are onboard via but ill try vesa
[16:02] <MadHag> its like it goes to the live cd before the actuall installation*
[16:02] <JC_Denton_> ah the graphics are onboard via but ill try vesa, Jack_Sparrow  , thanks
[16:03] <MadHag> ok I will try that
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: JUst trying to get you to the gui
[16:03] <MadHag> thanks guys
[16:03] <Pici> MadHag: Good luck
[16:03] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_: in an earlier edition that is what solved my problem
[16:03] <MadHag> strange scenes inside the gold mine
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: You can also try burning the same cd/iso at a very slow speed
[16:03] <Roge> when i change the graphics card in the  "screens and graphics config" it doesnt actually change it keeps going back to vesa the test of the driver does work. any idea's ?
[16:03] <randorfer> allobjects:  the other thing is I am not sitting infront of a buntu comp so I can help you troubleshoot what daemons are running at startup, that is what I really think needs to be changed (ie ensure that /etc/init.d/networking is started at runlevel 5)
[16:04] <rich__> ikonia, what do you want me to try
[16:04] <joha_> Hi!
[16:04] <joha_> How do I install PEAR for PHP5 under Ubuntu Dapper?
[16:04] <pmratpoison> just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and "where is" to find via. Change the driver value into "vesa"
[16:04] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so you've just done a reboot, can you please put the following in a pastebin "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" and "mount" lets check the status of this disk
[16:04] <ubuntunewb07> hey guys, how can i list all the current ips ubuntu has binded to it
[16:04] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow: what's the difference? vesa works works, thanks! pmratpoison , ok, thanks. wonder how
[16:04] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: ifconfig -a
[16:05] <ubuntunewb07> ty
[16:05] <toni_> rich__, ikonia  deleting all partition with acronis is possible? so you should have a new raw disk...
[16:05] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ for more info google openchrome or unichrome
[16:05] <ubuntunewb07> ah yeh thought so some are missing, how do i add new ips?
[16:05] <rich__> its identical to before mate
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: vesa runs on everything.. now that you know you can get in and everything works, you can work on getting the via driver setup correctly
[16:05] <ikonia> rich__: ok, can you please show the output of mount please so I can see what's where
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: Hope that helps
[16:06] <joha_> nm found it :)
[16:06] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ U should note that some VIA chipsets work better w/ vesa. But on some there is absolutely no 3d accelartion
[16:06] <ubuntunewb07> how do i add new IP's to ubuntu?
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: use the network admin gui
[16:06] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ such as on my other machine
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: system --> admin --> networking
[16:06] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  what exactly are you asking
[16:06] <ubuntunewb07> im not on gui, im on chui
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: chui ?
[16:06] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: hmm, now I just get 3 lines of "bad CDC descriptors" instead of 1 time to try different windows drivers?
[16:07] <ubuntunewb07> well i have been allocated ips by my host, but im not sure how to bind to them
[16:07] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ it uses an ASRock mobo, i don't remember which one
[16:07] <JC_Denton_> pmratpoison: , Jack_Sparrow the machine will only be used for web browsing and oo.org so vesa should be ok , thanks to u both
[16:07] <rich__> there you go man http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50724/
[16:07] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: I don't support ndiswrapper, sorry
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:07] <randorfer> ubuntunewb:  man bind
[16:07] <allobjects> randorfer: looking at my /etc/sudoers file it does not have: this line %wheel  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SETENV: ALL
[16:07] <ikonia> randorfer: bind ? thats not going to do anything
[16:07] <anderswc> randerfor, I did all the installation stuff but iwinconfic still says no wireless extensions :(
[16:07] <ubuntunewb07> i know in bsd you have to edit  /etc/rc.conf and put them as interface aliases is it same in ubuntu
[16:08] <allobjects> randorfer: only has # %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL is that what you mean ?
[16:08] <pmratpoison> http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Different+Unichrome+family+display+drivers for the different version of drivers
[16:08] <ubuntunewb07> man bind isnt what i need
[16:08] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: use the network admin gui in system -> admin --> networking
[16:08] <Pici> randorfer: I'm going to suggest not to answer if you dont know the answer, sometimes guessing when troubleshooting can create more problems.
[16:08] <randorfer> allobjects:  yes and put a # on the other one
[16:08] <ubuntunewb07> ikonia: i dont have a system -> admin im using ssh
[16:08] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_: you're quite wellcome, in the site I pasted, you can find which chips work w/ 3d and which not
[16:08] <ikonia> rich__: ok, that all looks pretty clear, have you tested making an fs yet ?
[16:08] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:08] <Stonelion> Hey all, I'm having a problem with opengl and compiz on the fglrx driver for ati cards... I got my system installed, got my vga out port on my laptop to work, got opengl and compiz running (so i can do rotate cube desktop switching) and eveything works fine right up untill i try to open a root terminal and the popup for root pass comes up... then it looks like my displays nolonger update... i can drag a window and see nothing, untill i
[16:08] <Stonelion> rotate the cube then come back, to find the window in the new dragged space
[16:09] <shampoonator> hi, i have a little problem.. i installed teamspeak client and the GUI font is so small i cant read it at all
[16:09] <shampoonator> any ideas :D ?
[16:09] <JC_Denton_> already one prob with scrolling - it's terribly laggy
[16:09] <jakel1> shampoonator, a magnify glass maybe
[16:10] <Pici> shampoonator: is msttcorefonts installed?
[16:10] <jakel1> i think there is software for that
[16:10] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  man ifconfig I should have said
[16:10] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ : I have noticed that too, I haven't been able to fix this
[16:10] <ubuntunewb07> ifconfig ty
[16:10] <allobjects> randorfer: sorry to be a pain, but "other one" ? I have 'root	ALL=(ALL) ALL' and '%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[16:10] <jakel1> for some reason ifconfig does not work in my linux distro
[16:10] <Stonelion> i would be happy if i could just find a solution for something to run to fix the opengl compiz, maybe restart it after i freeze my updating...
[16:10] <JC_Denton_> pmratpoison: hmm, ok. not too encouraging
[16:10] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: please don't use ifconfig as that won't set the addresses, look at the /etc/interfaces file.
[16:10] <Pici> jakel1: On Ubuntu?
[16:11] <randorfer> allobjects:  type groups for me on the command line
[16:11] <ubuntunewb07> ah ok
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: sudo ifconfig
[16:11] <jakel1> Pici nah.... opensuse... my ubuntu system is working fine... well sorta
[16:11] <shampoonator> no Pici never heard of it.. ill try
[16:11] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy
[16:11] <jakel1> ikonia command not found on the system
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: ifconfig is not always setuid
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: it's owned by root:root normally
[16:11] <jakel1> it doesn't exist ikonia...
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: other distro's don't use if config (ip route for example)
[16:11] <Pici> jakel1: Okay, just a reminder, this channel is only for Ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic for anything else or perhaps #opensuse or #suse.
[16:11] <jakel1> i already looked
[16:11] <Pici> ikonia: hes using suse.
[16:11] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ : don't think I'm an expert or sth, I'm just a normal user, w/ 1 year ubuntu experience. But a w/ driver still in development, no 3d support and 32MB's of ram borrowed from your RAM, just be thankful that it works
[16:11] <ikonia> Pici: ughhh
[16:12] <Pici> ikonia: yeah.
[16:12] <ikonia> rich__: I can't see what's locking your device, the only think I can think of is udev
[16:12] <pmratpoison> ram = video memory
[16:12] <jakel1> Pici, it was on topic cuz someone was talking about it and it reminded me of the opensuse system
[16:12] <ikonia> jakel1: opensuse is not on topic
[16:12] <ubuntunewb07> /etc/interfaces dosent exist
[16:12] <jakel1> but ifconfig not working is
[16:12] <ikonia> jakel1: and opensuse not having ifconfig has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:12] <Pici> jakel1: No, its not on topic, this isnt a chat channel.  Plus ikonia just spent some time trying to help you get that to work.
[16:12] <Joelito> hi all, does ubuntu comes with a md5 sum checker?
[16:13] <pmratpoison> Joelito: if you're referring to the livecd, yup
[16:13] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  ifconfig should do what you are asking, it is what is used to setup your network interfaces....
[16:13] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: /etc/network/interfaces, sorry
[16:14] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:14] <Joelito> pmratpoison: Hi, I mean once installed, how to check md5 for files.
[16:14] <ikonia> Joelito: md5sum $file
[16:14] <allobjects> randorfer: denis adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[16:14] <allobjects> randorfer: should I pastebin my sudoers ?
[16:14] <ng0n> anyone know the insmod dir to load pci wireless drivers to ?
[16:15] <ikonia> ng0n: what card
[16:15] <k0> does anyone know of any applet for the gnome panel that lets u control amarok?
[16:15] <ng0n> Realtec RTL8185
[16:15] <randorfer> allobjects:  sure then ill pastebin back the correct one ;-)
[16:15] <Joelito> ikonia: Thanks :)
[16:15] <netgear> how do i install dvd css library? i cannot find libdvdcss?
[16:15] <ikonia> ng0n: that should get probed at boot time
[16:15] <mo1991> can anyone tell me if they have nvidia drivers working for any recent versions of ubuntu.  I am using debian lenny amd64 and there are no nvidia-glx drivers working
[16:15] <rich__> what can i do with udev?
[16:15] <ikonia> mo1991: what card
[16:15] <shampoonator> Pici, i installed them (funny message h at the end but worked) but teamspeak is still small
[16:15] <ng0n> ok.
[16:15] <pmratpoison> it does..I think md5sum is pretty core utility stuff for a distro not to have
[16:16] <ikonia> rich__:  you could try stopping it, but thats only a random suggestion as I can't think of anything else that would lock it
[16:16] <rich__> ...to sort out the issue
[16:16] <rich__> thats my issue too
[16:16] <pmratpoison> add a much where applied in previous sentence
[16:16] <allobjects> !pastebin
[16:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:17] <Lunitari71> This might be an easy one, but I can't seem to find the answer... I'd like the little update icon I have on the the desktop to ignore any kernel updates... Where can I configure this? Anyone knows?
[16:17] <ikonia> Lunitari71: apt-cache policy
[16:17] <puppt> !libdvdcss2 | netgear
[16:17] <ubotu> netgear: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:18] <muskie> Hey all, I finally got everything working.. almost.
[16:18] <rich__> killed it, mkfs, restarted, mkfs  still no joy
[16:18] <rich__> GRRR this is a nightmate
[16:18] <ikonia> rich__: restarted what ?
[16:18] <rich__> nightmare, a nightmate would be a girlfriend
[16:18] <rich__> udev
[16:18] <allobjects> randorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50726/
[16:18] <ikonia> rich__: try not starting it, just killing it, again it's a long shot, but I can't see what would lock a device file
[16:18] <Pici> shampoonator: I'm not sure then, quick google suggests that its a known issue, but I dont see any fixes.
[16:18] <rich__> i tried that no joy
[16:18] <rich__> then started it again, no joy
[16:19] <muskie> I was just wondering if there's any way to diable a particular piece of hardware. The inbuilt mouse on my laptop is totally screwing up, so I want to disable it.
[16:19] <shampoonator> mmh :( thx :)
[16:19] <rich__> what i dont understand is why there arent any other examples on the net.
[16:19] <ikonia> rich__: obscure situation
[16:19] <muskie> it's appearing under my hardware list in device manager, but I can't find a way to turn it off
[16:19] <ikonia> rich__: I use that same disk without any issue
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: out of interest, have you tried other file systems ?
[16:20] <rich__> really? which kernel are you using?
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: again, just looking at random stuff here
[16:20] <rich__> same issue, any FS
[16:20] <allobjects> randorfer: alternatively would my /var/log/messages help ?
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: same as you and older
[16:21] <rich__> 2.6.22-14
[16:21] <ikonia> rich__: yup
[16:21] <couli1> question for a linux / ubuntu user. my uni recquires http authentification for internet, (very anoying), rhytmbox can not not download podcast without this auth, but there is no place for setting http auth credentials. is there a solution other than manual download .. ? thank you
[16:21] <randorfer> allobjects: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50727/
[16:21] <mrga_cro> how can i remove directroy from terminal
[16:21] <rich__> damn it, so something has happened. im using an encrpyted filesystem, but i cant see how that matters
[16:21] <hwilde> !antivirus
[16:21] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[16:21] <mrga_cro> i use this rm
[16:21] <couli1> rmdir
[16:21] <hwilde> !linuxvirus
[16:21] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:21] <scguy318> couli1: possibly System -> Prefs -> Network Proxy
[16:21] <hwilde> !virus
[16:21] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:21] <pmratpoison> coulil: I assume you don't have the option of using another player?
[16:22] <couli1> pmratpoison: i could
[16:22] <couli1> pmratpoison: which one ?
[16:22] <rich__> so now i know its an issue with my installation
[16:22] <PaT_TrickS27> hi !
[16:22] <muskie> anyone have any idea?
[16:22] <rich__> do you think?
[16:22] <pmratpoison> I don't know which one has the specific feature, I can point you to exaile or amarok, which are much more fully featured than rythmbox
[16:22] <okeefenokee_> Hiya folks. I'm having a sneaky problem with Gutsy, VDR and using different tty:s as described at the address http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658014. Any help would be deeply appreciated.
[16:23] <pmratpoison> coulil: especially amarok, if you don't mind using a KDE app on GNOME (makes it slightly slower, not much of an issue imo)
[16:23] <sadaiyappan> Hi.
[16:23] <PaT_TrickS27> i have an amd64x2 cpu and i want to know if hyperthreading will give 4 cpu if make cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:23] <Pici> !blacklist | muskie
[16:23] <ubotu> muskie: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[16:24] <muskie> thankyou.
[16:24] <pmratpoison> coulil: you could try also banshee which is a "me too" for itunes on GNOME
[16:25] <Lunitari71> ikonia: Can you be a bit more specific about apt-cache policy? It lists my current repositories... But right now my update manager wants to update 2 linux-headers packages and one linux-image package. How do I tell it to ignore linux-headers* and linux-image* ?
[16:25] <ikonia> Lunitari71: you need to set the policy for the kernel package, using apt-cache policy, out of interest why do you not want headers updating ?
[16:25] <pmratpoison> Lunitari71: how about using synaptic to "force version"
[16:26] <Lunitari71> ikonia: Because I don't want to recompile vmware workstation everytime there is an update
[16:26] <pmratpoison> click a package and then from the menu Package > Lock Version
[16:26] <x-X-x> I bought unreal tournament 2004 editors choice edition DVD and it doesnt have a linux installer. does anyone know how i can install it ?
[16:26] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone can help me please ? I want to know how to verify if hyperthreading is active on my ubuntu
[16:27] <ikonia> PaT_TrickS27: do you have multiple cpu's showing ?
 yes but i have a dualcore CPU (AMDx2 3800)
[16:27] <muskie> xxx: unrealtournament.com will have the file.
[16:28] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=895077
[16:28] <Pici> Do AMDs have hyperthreading? I thought it was only an intel thing...
 I have try
 when I cat/proc/cpuinfo flags give me ht
[16:29] <azerty> martin35
[16:29] <Lunitari71> pmratpoison: Thank you! That solution works great!
[16:29] <pmratpoison> :)
[16:31] <cottima> hello, not a user but always interested, suse has yast, and yast also works in non-gui modes.  Does ubuntu have something like it?
[16:31] <hwilde> cottima, apt-get works command line
[16:31] <Pici> !apt | cottima
[16:31] <ubotu> cottima: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[16:31] <hwilde> cottima, synaptic is the gui
[16:31] <cheatr> cottima: Ubuntu also has dpkg
[16:31] <pmratpoison> Lunitari71: Not sure if this would affect a dist-upgrade though... if hardy switch to 2.6.24 and you have a locked version...
[16:31] <giany911> guys, i have a question, is it possible to insert a short video with subtitles in presentation?
[16:31] <pmratpoison> switches*
[16:31] <cheatr> cottima: and as for a gui, ubuntu has synaptic
[16:32] <PaT_TrickS27> I am on a fresh installation of ubuntu and I think that the system is slow
[16:32] <muskie> I can't see what module I should add to the blacklist to disable just that particular piece of hardware, and not all Mice..
[16:32] <cottima> yast does more than package management though, it is for almost all admin uses
[16:32] <rmh3093_> is there a way to do a network install of ubuntu, i have a laptop with out a cdrom and it already has gentoo running on it
[16:32] <rmh3093_> how would i install ubuntu on its extra partition
[16:32] <cheatr> cottima: Ubuntu splits up the administration tasks. You can find them under System->Administration
[16:32] <dooglus> what's the name of the libglib2.0 package with debug symbols in it?
[16:32] <Pici> !installl > rmh3093_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:33] <allobjects> randorfer: :-( visudo barfs at that syntax ... maybe I did something wrong in context of vi
[16:33] <cottima> cheatr like redhat?
[16:33] <Pici> cottima: There is no 'all in one' administration tool for Ubuntu like yast.
[16:33] <dooglus> the gtk one is libgtk2.0-0-dbg - what's the equivalent for glib?
[16:33] <randorfer> allobjects:  you dont have to use visudo to edit it you can use anything
[16:33] <dooglus> !info libgtk2.0-0-dbg
[16:33] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0-dbg: The GTK+ libraries and debugging symbols. In component main, is extra. Version 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 8602 kB, installed size 21472 kB
[16:33] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone have a good thread for optimize the responsiveness of ubuntu
[16:33] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0
[16:33] <ubotu> Package libglib2.0 does not exist in gutsy
[16:33] <cottima> okay, thank you everyone! one other question.
[16:33] <randorfer> allobjects:  but I just realized that I messed up
[16:34] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0-dev
[16:34] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 619 kB, installed size 2328 kB
[16:34] <cheatr> Pici: Actually, now that you mention it, they had tried out an all in one admin app prior to gutsy. Do you know what happened to it?
[16:34] <luca> #ubuntu-it
[16:34] <ljsmithx> Hey guys!
[16:34] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <ubotu> Package libglib2.0-dbg does not exist in gutsy
[16:34] <Pici> !msgthebot | dooglus
[16:34] <ubotu> dooglus: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:34] <ljsmithx> I just realised something!!
[16:34] <JC_Denton_> Is it possible to install ubuntu from one hd onto another without a floppy or cd drive?
[16:34] <dooglus> !msgthebot info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <randorfer> allobjects: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL NOPASSWD:ALL should be %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[16:34] <ljsmithx> After switching to ubuntu, I havn't looked at a single porn site@!!! :DDDDDDDDD
[16:34] <pmratpoison> cottime: imo, yast is kinda bloated, have you considered that more but minimalistic config programs are better, performace-wise?
[16:34] <Pici> dooglus: Please /msg ubotu info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <allobjects> randorfer: its comment says so and I tried 'sudo gedit' and it only gave it to me in read only
[16:34] <dooglus> !/msg ubotu info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <Pici> ljsmithx: Thats nice, but this is a support channel.
[16:35] <Pici> dooglus: no !
[16:35] <Pici> dooglus: er, no ! in the front. ;)
[16:35] <dooglus> ok
[16:35] <allobjects> randorfer: extra space ?
[16:35] <pmratpoison> even though ubuntu is not the performance champ, I find it better than opensuse
[16:35] <cheatr> allobjects: Don't do sudo gedit. Use gksudo gedit instead
[16:35] <Pici> allobjects: use gksudo not sudo.
[16:35] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone have a good thread for optimize the responsiveness of ubuntu, thanks a lot
[16:35] <randorfer> allobjects:  no, remove the extra ALL after (ALL)
[16:35] <cottima> ever since I ubuntu came out I have heard of incompatibility (with debian packages/users), I know that there is sudo and no root user.  What other differences are there compared to most linux distros (such as configuration files)?
[16:36] <dooglus> Pici: maybe I need to build it for myself - it seems there's no package in the repository for it
[16:36] <pmratpoison> PaT_TrickS27: try making a custom kernel if you are feeling confident enough...
[16:36] <allobjects> cheatr: Pici will do, thanks
[16:36] <puppt> dooglus, try libglib2.0-0-dbg ?
[16:36] <Stormx2> I have a sort of interesting question. Is it possible to start another X screen on another tty automatically when ubuntu boots?
[16:36] <dooglus> puppt: I did
[16:36] <cottima> does it depend on the software?
[16:36] <randorfer> cottima:  buntu still has root, every distro has root, it just encourages the use of sudo instead of working exclusively as root
[16:36] <Pici> PaT_TrickS27: Why do you think it is unreponsive?
[16:36] <powergoal2> Stormx2: I dont think you can run two xservers simultaneously
[16:36] <Yv12345vY> Stormx2, you can only have one X running
[16:37] <dooglus> puppt: oh, I didn't?  I'm confused
[16:37] <Stormx2> Really?
 firefox need about 10 seconde to open
[16:37] <Pici> cottima: Ubuntu is based off debian.
[16:37] <Stormx2> Cause I've done it before I think, lemme check
[16:37] <cheatr> cottima: The main difference among the distros is the type of package they use (rpm, deb, etc) and whether they use Gnome, KDE, or something else
[16:37] <powergoal2> Stormx2: if you've done it, i would be interested in hearing how. :)
[16:37] <scguy318> Stormx2: you can have more than one X server running
[16:37] <Stormx2> powergoal2, just did it. Go to another tty and do startx -- :1
[16:38] <pmratpoison> cottima: I'm under the impression that you can activate the root account, but I would personally advise against it
[16:38] <dooglus> puppt: thanks a lot - that's what I needed
when starting the user session there is some lag
[16:38] <puppt> dooglus, np
[16:38] <Pici> !sudo | cottima
[16:38] <ubotu> cottima: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:38] <pmratpoison> but this is a matter of preference and experience, which I lack
[16:38] <dooglus> pmratpoison: a simple "sudo passwd" will set the root password
[16:38] <Pici> PaT_TrickS27: Is your system currently indexing files? You can modify that under System>Preferences>Search (I think, I dont have a gui in front of me), plus there are many tweaking guides online, see google.
[16:38] <Pici> !noroot | dooglus pmratpoison
[16:38] <ubotu> dooglus pmratpoison: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[16:38] <powergoal2> Stormx2: hm.  cool.  haha
[16:38] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, what kind of a machine is it?  How much ram?  Is the hard drive spinning constantly?
[16:38] <ArrPirate> I have a slight problem
[16:38] <qolo> I need a mail client that has Exchange support, can anyone recommend something ??
[16:39] <allobjects> cheatr: however it still gives me the file in read only
[16:39] <Yv12345vY> qolo, Evolution
[16:39] <cottima> so the main difference of ubuntu is a millionaire backer, prefers sudo, and pushes for gui friendliness?
[16:39] <pmratpoison> Pici: That's why I said that I advise AGAINST it :)
[16:39] <cheatr> allobjects: What is the path of the file?
[16:39] <ArrPirate> the flash-nonfree plugin is installed but firefox doesn't detect that it is installed. What can I do?
AMD3800x2 with 1Go dual DDR 160 Go HD SATA2
[16:39] <cheatr> allobjects: Also, what are the permissions of the file (use ls -l)
[16:39] <Pici> !flashissues | ArrPirate
[16:39] <ubotu> ArrPirate: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:39] <ArrPirate> thanks
[16:40] <Pici> cottima: Sounds good to me, plus the desktop version aims to be user friendly.
[16:40] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, but the HDD isn't constantly spinning and the CPU isn't constantly maxed out?
[16:40] <Pici> !ubuntu | cottima also see these links
[16:40] <ubotu> cottima also see these links: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
nope
[16:40] <Pici> cottima: er, thought there was moer info there, nevermind ;)
[16:40] <dwxreaper> what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server
[16:41] <Stormx2> One is intended for desktop, one for server?
[16:41] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: what you intend to do for it
[16:41] <cheatr> dwxreaper: ubuntu has a gui, server is only from the terminal
[16:41] <randorfer> dwxreaper:  the default intsalled packages
[16:41] <allobjects> cheatr: /etc/sudoers
[16:41] <Pici> !server | dwxreaper
[16:41] <ubotu> dwxreaper: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[16:41]  * Pici hugs ubotu 
[16:41] <cottima> pici one more q: if use ubuntu, I know debian a little better?
[16:41] <WorkingOnWise> when I launch Amarok, I get the error "Could not enter folder /." and when it begins the wizard to set up my music collection, it displays / and nothing in it. I went into Nautilus and I cant see anything in / either. It sounds like a permissions problem to me. What permissiond should I have to /?
[16:41] <powergoal2> haha
[16:41] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, I only ask b/c my personal laptop was having a hard time with Ubuntu until I limited it's memory at boot, just added mem=512M to the end of the boot command and it helped a lot
[16:41] <Pici> cottima: Definitly.
[16:41] <PriceChild> Anyone around with experience of synergy? I don't have a keyboard for the machine I want to run as the synergy server and I'm having trouble getting the thing started.
[16:41] <dwxreaper> what's the differences in the kernel between server and normal ubuntu
[16:42] <PriceChild> dwxreaper, nothing
[16:42] <cheatr> allobjects: Try this: http://www.unixtutorial.org/2007/12/visudo-tutorial/
i do it in menu.lst file and update grub ?
[16:42] <dwxreaper> pricechild !server | ubuntu
[16:42] <dwxreaper> !server | ubuntu
[16:42] <ubotu> ubuntu: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[16:42] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: Have you considered the possibility that you have set a library folder for which you don't have the proper rw permissions?
[16:42] <PriceChild> dwxreaper, there is no difference in kernel
[16:42] <allobjects> cheatr: -r--r----- 1 root root 505 2008-01-05 02:41 /etc/sudoers
[16:42] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, to test it out I'd do it at boot time in Grub, just press e to edit the command
[16:42] <cottima> Thank you everyone sorry for the minor headache.  I am wanting to be a linux admin and wanting not to have manage many different distros for what I need.  Thank you!
[16:42] <dwxreaper> ok cool
[16:43] <isaacj87> does moblock effect iptables in any negative ways? does it make it weaker?
[16:43] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, or add it to menu.lst and it if doesn't help just remove it
[16:43] <cottima> Thank you Pici
[16:43] <dwxreaper> pricechild: so it's the same thing really with less apps and files
[16:43] <RioCunliffe> Ħełþ
[16:43] <cheatr> allobjects: I didn't realize it was the sudoers file when I asked for the permissions. Just read the guide I posted (http://www.unixtutorial.org/2007/12/visudo-tutorial/). You should use visudo to edit it
does i put mem=1024 if i have 1Go of RAM
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[16:43] <RioCunliffe> ÞŁEÆ§E ĦEŁÞ
[16:43] <cheatr> !visudo | allobjects
[16:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:43] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, for me I cut the memory down to 512 or 768, for whatever reason 1GB never worked well, so try 512M at first
thanks !
[16:45] <dwxreaper> Ubuntu server install by default a server optimized kernel. See above for details on available kernels.
[16:45] <rich__> ikoniaL something interesting, the disk shows in the places column in nautilus. it also says when you click on it device /dev/sdc1 or /media/disk busy
[16:47] <cheatr> allobjects: Did visudo work for you?
[16:47] <dwxreaper> but from what I read there really is no relevant differences in the kernel for ubuntu server, and ubuntu
[16:47] <dwxreaper> less drivers loaded, maybe a extremely slight optimization
[16:48] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: from what i know, they are pretty much the same thing.
[16:48] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: perhaps its lacks the ability to do Direct Rendering or things that sort that are graphics intensive, being intended for serving instead of desktop.
[16:49] <allobjects> cheatr: thanks for the visudo link.
[16:49] <allobjects> randorfer: ok, sudoers updated ... ccould you please step me through adding the nework restart to all sessions ?
[16:49] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: I havent set any folder yet. The first time I started Amarok this problem started.
[16:49] <cheatr> allobjects: No problem.
[16:49] <allobjects> cheatr: yes visudo worked fine thanks
[16:50] <pmratpoison_> WorkingOnWise: I just came back from accidental log out.  I can't think of why you would be facing this problem, if this is the case... sorry
[16:50] <Nostahl> how do i run a .bin file
[16:51] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:51] <Pici> Nostahl: What file?
[16:51] <Nostahl> its a linux game im downloading and it comes in a .bin
[16:51] <WorkingOnWise> what permissions shold I have to /?
[16:52] <Pici> Nostahl: First, make sure that its not in the repositories, if its not: chmod +x file.bin; bash file.bin
[16:54] <dundel> isit possible to remove the login message when you login as root? because i can't find it
[16:54] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: afaik, it is because Gnome does not start the kio-slave service. It is simular in function to Gnomes dbus. In my experience, the kde apps that throw this error still work fine in Gnome.
[16:54] <JC_Denton_> trying to upgrade a installation and getting Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[16:54] <Nostahl> pici it says cannot exicute binary file
[16:55] <Pici> Nostahl: Try just:  ./file.bin
[16:55] <ochbad> Hoping someone knows and this will be a quick and easy answer: does anyone know why Print Screen launched RhymBox (in addition to bringing up the save as png dialog)? Pretty basic installation of 7.10 here. I've looked on google but been unable to find anyone with the same problem, and I have no idea where this is set (and can be unset).
[16:55] <zoink_> i'm having trouble getting my recently created NFS to mount on my client  machine, any help?
[16:55] <WorkingOnWise> What permissions should I have to / ?
[16:56] <ochbad> *launches RythmBox
[16:57] <ochbad> Nevermind, figured it out
[16:58] <ochbad> It was set as the keycode.
[16:58] <WorkingOnWise> what pdf reader can read a pdf to me, besides Adobes?
[16:58] <Pici> !pdf | WorkingOnWise
[16:58] <ubotu> WorkingOnWise: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[16:59] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Document viewer should work
[17:00] <WorkingOnWise> Clearzen: do u mean Evince?
[17:00] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Nope, I just opened a pdf with document viewer
[17:01] <Tweek888> I've got a problem with my battery monitor displaying 0%, I have tried forcing acpi in grub
[17:01] <cronik> good morning everyone
[17:02] <WorkingOnWise> I wasn't clear on my question. Sorry. I want a pdf reader that will actually read, verbally, a pdf. Adobe's can do it, but it is broke on my system for some reason and frankly I am growing weary of Adobes sloppiness
[17:02] <Leechzilla> In nvidia-settings, I have the option "Separate X screen". I'm unable to disable this
[17:03] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: Like, out loud?
[17:03] <WorkingOnWise> Pici: yup
[17:03] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Oh, I couldn't help you there. I've never had to have a pdf read verbally
[17:03] <piranha_> #Trixbo
[17:04] <piranha_> uh
[17:04] <tymonn> babla
[17:04] <tymonn> blabla
[17:04] <tymonn> blabla
[17:04] <tymonn> gas´~
[17:05] <Clearzen> for a channel with 1200 people there isn't a lot happening in here
[17:05] <bazhang> tymonn: please stop
[17:05] <Yv12345vY> it's lunch time
[17:05] <tymonn> green
i have found my problem
[17:06] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, what is it?
nvidia driver
[17:06] <Yv12345vY> oh boooooo
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> but i don't know how
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> to repair it
[17:07] <Yv12345vY> !nvidia
[17:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
nvidia driver give me a latency
[17:07] <Tweek888> get envy
[17:07] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, i have to sudo the kde apps to get them to work
[17:07] <Yv12345vY> envy or do it by hand, it's not too bad
[17:07] <quaal> and even then its not completely normal
[17:07] <bazhang> !envy | Tweek888
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> !nvidia
[17:08] <Yv12345vY> !envy
[17:08] <Tweek888> I don't need to know about it.
[17:08] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, http://pastebin.ca/841382 is what happens when i sudo it
[17:08] <Tweek888> I was telling him to get it.
[17:08] <ubotu> Tweek888: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:08] <PaT_TrickS27> my video card is onboard
[17:08] <PaT_TrickS27> chipset is 6150
[17:08] <WorkingOnWise> Has anyone installed adobe acrobat reader from the Medibuntu repos? Does it work?  When I click the menu link, I get nothing at all....as iff I never clicked it at all...
[17:10] <pike_> WorkingOnWise: id launch it from terminal and see what it says. ive only really used xpdf though
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: what do u get if u launch it as you? It is complaining that /tmp/kde-dephtu is owned by root and it wants it to be owned by u.
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> pike_: i'll do that.
[17:11] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone know wich driver i need to use for an nvidia 6150 chipset (with nvidia-new i have a lag)
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> pike_: ty
[17:12] <javb> how can i play *.BUP files in ubuntu? (DVD) ?
[17:12] <mark__3> i'm having a problem compiling a new kernel with kpkg
[17:13] <mark__3> i change the .config, but when i try to compile it says "nothing to be done"
[17:13] <mark__3> i'm quite sure .config has been changed
[17:13] <kostebek> hi everyone
[17:13] <kostebek> i m forum Türkiye :)
[17:13] <kostebek> i ve got some problems :(
[17:13] <Pici> !tr | kostebek
[17:13] <ubotu> kostebek: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:14] <pike_> kostebek: welcome
[17:14] <kojiro> Hi, I have an AR2413 minipci card that xubuntu 7.10 correctly ids as an Atheros device. It scans and detects my WPA2-PSK network, but when I try to connect it just fails silently.
[17:14] <kostebek> hi pike :)
[17:15] <kostebek> i have hot a problem about my ATI RADEON hd2600 graphic card :(
[17:15] <kostebek> have you got any link "howto" about iş
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> can somebody help me?
[17:16] <kojiro> Kamus_H_Zwisch: with what?
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :d
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> my gnome
[17:16] <pr0nGuy> How do I open a ZIP archive in Ubuntu?
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> he take 20 years to start
[17:16] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:16] <triplc> hi all
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> in dmesg have so much of this: MASQUERADE: eth0 ate my IP address
[17:16] <zoink_> i'm having trouble getting my recently created NFS to mount on my client  machine, any help?
[17:16] <kostebek> hi triplc
[17:16] <kojiro> heh
[17:17] <kojiro> everyone's asking questions, but nobody's answering.
[17:17] <kostebek> ATI drivers ? :(
[17:17] <pike_> !ati | kostebek may help
[17:17] <ubotu> kostebek may help: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:17] <kojiro> kostebek: open source or binary?
[17:17] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> anybody?
[17:17] <pike_> kostebek: as an alternative you can use the vesa driver of course but is just a generic driver
[17:18] <triplc> What is the startup script (per user) for Gnome? I need to add several small setting like PATH, LD_PRELOAD... but I do not want to change global settings in /etc/X11/Xsession.d. I just want to change those for one user
[17:18] <mark__3> anyone going to help me with my make-kpkg problem?
[17:18] <bazhang> Kamus_H_Zwisch: with your gnome? could you give a bit more info?
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> bazhang:
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> this is the only thing that appears
[17:18] <Pici> !kernel > mark__3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:18] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:18] <Pici> !enter
[17:18] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> MASQUERADE: eth0 ate my IP address
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> so much of that
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> busy all the dmesg
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> start to end
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> just that
[17:19] <kojiro> Pici: that worked so well ;)
[17:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> help :(
[17:21] <kojiro> So how can I get the default network configuration application to give me more information about why it's unable to connect to my WPA2-PSK wireless network?
[17:21] <cookie> hello! what is a good and easy to use video editing program for ubuntu
[17:21] <cookie> ?
[17:21] <Clearzen> kojiro: try to connect via CLI. That should give you more info
[17:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> cinelerra cookie
[17:22] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, can you point me to a faq on how to do that?
[17:22] <cookie> !cinelerra cookie
[17:22] <Clearzen> kojiro: ie sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0
[17:22] <Pici> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please dont use enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <kostebek> pike i ve come back again
[17:22] <cookie> thanks Kamus_H_Zwisch
[17:22] <zkline> I hope this is just me, but after installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop, some Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work.  ctrl+alt+tab, for one, which is supposed to pop up the Gnome panel, but doesn't seem to do anything.
[17:22] <Nostahl> oh how i wish i could get anarchy online to patch beyond 17.6.1
[17:22] <kostebek> how can i install vesa driver
[17:22] <kostebek> i will not use Compiz or etc.
[17:23] <Clearzen> kojiro: Depending on the interface name for your wireless card. It's possible your card doesn't support that encryption. What type of card is it?
[17:23] <bazhang> !vesa
[17:23] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[17:23] <pike_> kostebek: i dont have alot of experience with ati cards but to use vesa 1) alt-ctrl-f2  2) login  3) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  4) choose vesa  5) hit enter to choose default for everything else 6) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:23] <muskie> Hey again
[17:23] <Delvien> After the first install of ubuntu 7.10 restricted-modules picked up my video card and installed the card automatically, I had to reformat and the 2nd third and fourth attempt to reinstall, it now refuses to pick up my video card.
[17:23] <kostebek> okey pike i now trying
[17:24] <WorkingOnWise> i got some wierd permissions problems here. Amarok cant read / (neither can I) and Acobat Reader cant read /bin/pwd. I have to assume that permissions are messed up other places to. How do I fix this?
[17:24] <muskie> hey, more people having video card problems :P
[17:24] <Clearzen> kostebek: vesa is already installed. You just need to open the config file with gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then change the driver in the correct section.
[17:24] <kojiro> Clearzen: it's an Atheros... um, lspci says "Atheros Communications, Inc. AR2413" and then later on it says "Compex Wireless 802.11b/g MiniPCI Adapter, Rev A1 [WLM54G]"
[17:24] <muskie> Hey, only three problems with hardware, I call that a stable systme under linux ;P
[17:24] <saeed> hi all
[17:24] <Clearzen> kojiro: It should work then. Try sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0
[17:24] <kojiro> Clearzen: as for whether or not it supports WPA2, it did work in Windows 30 minutes ago :)
[17:25] <olaff> hey all, just installed gutsy, and thunderbird... but thunderbird doesnt open.... anyone had the same issue?
[17:25] <pmratpoison> hello! I seem to have lost windows from GRUB
[17:25] <Clearzen> kojiro: Yeah, not all open source drivers are WPA2 compliant
[17:25] <Clearzen> !grub
[17:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:25] <cheatr> olaff: Launch thunderbird from a terminal and post any errors that show up
[17:25] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:25] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: I have the opposite problem :)
[17:25] <muskie> I have a Geforce 440 GO powered laptop. when I install NVIDIA-GLX, X-just boots to a black screen. it is still running in the backgraound cause there's audio, but no video. does anyone know what I should be modifying my Free86 to, and when?
[17:26] <muskie> *Xfree86
[17:26] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Windows is missing on GRUB
[17:26] <olaff> cheatr: it doesnt show any errors, just brings up the bar loading thunderbird, which then dissapears
[17:26] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: When did it disappear? did it ever appear?
[17:26] <cheatr> olaff: So no text at all is printed to the terminal?
[17:26] <olaff> no
[17:27] <af_> there is a guide to build ubuntu from the sources?
[17:27] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: It dissappeared whn I tried to tweak my usplash theme
[17:27] <WorkingOnWise> !clone
[17:27] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:27] <cheatr> olaff: And you installed tbird from the repos?
[17:27] <olaff> installed with synaptic package manager
[17:27] <pmratpoison> I'm not sure though, since I haven't booted to windows for ages, but that's the only possible time I can think of that this happened
[17:28] <olaff> im not sure its not permission related somehow
[17:28] <cheatr> olaff: Hmm, this is strange, have you tried reinstalling it?
[17:28] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: you have to reenter it in /boot/grub/menu.lst to find where on the disk windows is open /boot/grub/device.map and look there
[17:28] <olaff> cheatr: i'll try now
[17:28] <cheatr> olaff: ok
[17:28] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: Does that make sense to you?
[17:29] <WorkingOnWise> where are the repos list stored, besides sources.list?
[17:29] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, first it gave me some copyright info on the DHCP client, then it said 'wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801' twice. Following that it told me it was listening and sending on the MAC address of the device.
[17:29] <kojiro> Then it did DHCPDISCOVER four times on 255.255.255.255 intervals 4, 7, 14, and 6
[17:29] <the08hulk> anyone ava to help me out
[17:29] <the08hulk> ...
[17:29] <Clearzen> kojiro: did it assign you an ip?
[17:29] <cheatr> WorkingOnWise: sources.list is where synaptic and apt look for the list of repos.
[17:30] <WorkingOnWise> cheatr: ty
[17:30] <kojiro> Clearzen: no, it finally said "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[17:30] <the08hulk> my ubuntu installed yet whe i start is shows clowdy screen
[17:30] <the08hulk> did a network restart..and when ifconfig -a only lo has address
[17:30] <Clearzen> kojiro: Just to cover all the bases, you do have the password for the wireless entered in the network manager right.
[17:30] <bazhang> kojiro: do you have two wireless devices listed in iwconfig?
[17:30] <pmratpoison> so, so, I see that I have to find which partition windows is on (/dev/sda1 mounted on /media/sda1) and then I have to properly config /.../grub/menu.lst
[17:30] <the08hulk> neither eth0 nor 1
[17:30] <kojiro> Clearzen: but I think I missed a step. I mean, even though I've tried entering my WPA2 key in the GUI network tool, don't I need to enter it somewhere on the commandline?
[17:31] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Not sure if I can do it successfully though :)
[17:31] <WorkingOnWise> if I do "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages" , will I be able to use that on a 64bit system if it was generateb on a 32bit system?
[17:31] <Clearzen> kojiro: no, it should be stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:31] <Clearzen> kojiro: what does iwconfig show you? More than a single interface?
[17:31] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Not sure if I can do it successfully though :) Is that correct?
[17:32] <cheatr> WorkingOnWise: I don't think so. I believe that there are different packages for 64bit
[17:32] <the08hulk> fairly new to ubuntu..any help... still lost..
[17:32] <cookie> there is no way I can install cinelerra
[17:32] <cookie> it isn't in any packages
[17:32] <cookie> and I do not want it as live CD
[17:32] <Clearzen> kojiro: does iwconfig show an interface named ath0?
[17:32] <lusepuster> Hi folks - something messed up my swap settings,don't know what. I try and do a swapon -a, but it just says 'swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument'
[17:32] <cookie> I just want a good and easy to use video editing program
[17:32] <kojiro> Clearzen: yes, iwconfig shows me lo, wifi0, and eth0 with no wireless extensions, and ath0 with all the wireless stuff
[17:32] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: what problems do u hVE?
[17:32] <CJ_> sweet
[17:33] <WorkingOnWise> have
[17:33] <rich__> does anyone know about /dev/mapper, when i add a hard a device file appears, it only does it for my WD passport disc.
[17:33] <Clearzen> try this and see if you get a ip. sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0
[17:33] <unagi> what tells ubuntu which icon to use on a delete button
[17:33] <the08hulk> well i spoke to one of the teams from caly yesterday they told me to look up for ii's in the dpkg -l nvidia
[17:33] <cookie> could somebody help?
[17:33] <the08hulk> so i did it only shoed me the kerlnal
[17:33] <rich__> i want to create a filesystem but linux tells me the device is in use, it must be this file
[17:33] <the08hulk> not the glx-new
[17:33] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, trying again
[17:34] <cookie> what is a good and easy to use video editing program
[17:34] <the08hulk> so he said i shoud sudo ipfup eth0
[17:34] <the08hulk> nothing
[17:34] <rich__> cookie, i am using avidemux, its the closest thing to virtualdub
[17:34] <the08hulk> so we went on to sudo networking restart
[17:34] <CJ_> does anyone know what causes the mouse to stop function on a ubuntu platform if your running it in a virtual pc_
[17:34] <Clearzen> kojiro: If that doesn't work try wep encryption and see if it will connect
[17:34] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: so u are wanting to get your video setup?
[17:34] <the08hulk> then ifconfig -a shows only lo has address
[17:34] <olaff> cheatr: that didnt fix it
[17:35] <the08hulk> yea i guess i mean im fairly new so im not really sure what im doing learning as i go on
[17:35] <pmratpoison> would this http://pastebin.com/m470caaa be correct? (without the comment lines, that is) and instead of hd0.0 , I using sd0,0
[17:35] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, I dont get those errors. but when i open it as non-root i cant use the file browser, i get the io-slave permissions denied error i previously mentioned
[17:35] <the08hulk> i got the update and install code
[17:35] <the08hulk> but no connection
[17:35] <Clearzen> kojiro: We are trying to find the cause of the problems, if you can connect with wep then WPA2 is not supported most likely. I'll google it a little and see if I can find a similar problem.
[17:35] <cheatr> olaff: Try running "top | grep thunderbird"
[17:35] <the08hulk> i do have it next to me tho so if u wanna thro me some codes i can try id appreciate
[17:36] <the08hulk> also ethernet attached
[17:36] <Clearzen> kojiro: Just googled it. WPA2 is not supported with atheros
[17:36] <Clearzen> kojiro: it says WPA1 is though
[17:36] <kojiro> even after all this time :/
[17:36] <cheatr> olaff: Be sure to run "thunderbird" from the terminal before running the top command
[17:36] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to change an icon for a button in ubuntu?
[17:36] <WorkingOnWise> are u on the machine with these problems?
[17:37] <the08hulk> ??..
[17:37] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: are u on the machine with these problems?
[17:37] <Killabeez> hi
[17:37] <olaff> cheatr: ok, giving it a go :)
[17:37] <the08hulk> oh no i have it seperatly
[17:37] <Killabeez> downloaded and burned ubuntu 7.10 iso
[17:37] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, I'll try it with different encryptions
[17:37] <kojiro> Clearzen: thanks for the help
[17:37] <wastrel> whee
[17:37] <Clearzen> kojiro: np
[17:38] <Killabeez> when trying to install i get ' Kernel Panic- not syncing I0-APIC timer doesn't work! boot with APIC debug and send a report
[17:38] <Killabeez> '
[17:38] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: ok, so first u need networking up. do u have wireless or cable network, or both?
[17:38] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: would this http://pastebin.com/m470caaa be correct? (without the comment lines, that is)
[17:38] <cookie> THANK YOU
[17:39]  * g0rb3hy is looseing motivation getting his bcm430 based wireless card working in 7.10 64 =(
[17:39] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: if (hd0,0) is where your grub assigned it then that should work
[17:40] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: sorry...forgot about u...do these apps run normally in kde?
[17:40] <Killabeez> can someone help me out?
[17:40] <cottima> I am not a good linux user or programmer.  is there a tutorial for apparmor and repo for prewritten scripts?
[17:40] <garyb> Does anyone know how to install the i686 kernal or does the linux-generic take care of that
[17:40] <Clearzen> Killabeez: Will the disk boot at all? is it giving you those errors when trying to load the kernel?
[17:41] <Killabeez> yea
[17:41] <fsckr> using pidgin i have accidently blocked the wrong contact.  I have looked at the faq on the pidgin trac and the resolution for that doesn't work.  He can send me an IM, but I no longer have him in my contact list
[17:41] <fsckr> oops sorry not in the pidgin channel
[17:41] <Killabeez> on disk loadup, then i hit press enter for normal install and i get the error
[17:41] <Clearzen> Killabeez: You have to add noapic to the boot options. I think it is f6 on the install cd but I'm not 100%
[17:41] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: wait....
[17:41] <fsckr> whats up WorkingOnWise
[17:41] <Killabeez> what is the error trying to tell me, clearzen.
[17:41] <olaff> doesnt seem to be finding anything there cheatr:
[17:42] <garyb> Does anyone know how to install the i686 kernal or does the linux-generic take care of that
[17:42] <pmratpoison> Clearzen I think that's where it's at... my device.map , maps (hd0) as /dev/sda and the windows partition is in /dev/sda1
[17:42] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: yer ok cuz pidgin is an ubuntu package...
[17:42] <Clearzen> Killabeez: it is telling you that your system doesn't support apic
[17:42] <Killabeez> should i be using the i386 iso for a amd dual core?
[17:42] <fsckr> well I posted in #pidgin as well hehe
[17:42] <cheatr> olaff: Hmm. I'm stumped. The only other advice I have is to remove thunderbird and download it from mozilla's website. This won't provide you with updates, but should allow you to get it running.
[17:43] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: have that person im u, and with the im open, right click their name in the upper left, and choose unblock
[17:43] <Clearzen> Killabeez: Yeah the generic kernel supports dual cores
[17:43] <garyb> does it support i686
[17:43] <garyb> or do i need special drivers
[17:43] <olaff> hmm ok thanks cheatr:
[17:43] <fsckr> ok ill give that a try when he gets home
[17:43] <Killabeez> clearzen: what is APIC?
[17:43] <fsckr> thx WorkingOnWise
[17:43] <garyb> someone hook my up i swear i am going to go straight back to openSuSE
[17:44] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: yw
[17:44] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: If you run find /boot/stage1 from grub what does it give you?
[17:44] <cheatr> olaff: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[17:44] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: if it dont work, come back and someone will try again.
[17:44] <filo86> How to make conky starting automatically after log in (fluxbox wm)?
[17:44] <Stormx2> I have a sort of interesting question. Is it possible to start another X screen on another tty automatically when ubuntu boots? I know I can start another x session with startx -- :1... I want to do this automatically and without starting any unnecessary stuff, as i'll be dedicating the :1 to VNC
[17:45] <olaff> thanks for the effort anyway cheatr: much appreciated
[17:45] <Clearzen> Killabeez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
[17:45] <orionjoe> hi, noob here. any one care to help me? :D
[17:45] <cheatr> olaff: You're welcome
[17:45] <kinroad> filo86: edit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[17:45] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: what do you mean "from grub" ?
[17:45] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: I pm'd u. do u see it?
[17:45] <garyb> exit
[17:45] <the08hulk> yep
[17:45] <Clearzen> Stormx2: That is interesting. I don't know how to do that, but when you find out you should tell me.
[17:46] <WorkingOnWise> is java fixed in 64bit yet? the plugin I mean...
[17:46] <Gunner_Sr> Can I use G4L on 7.10 from a 400GB drive to a 1TB drive?
[17:46] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: lets talk there.
[17:46] <orionjoe> i'm having trouble loading flash 9 for firefox...
[17:46] <seenu> how can v get a java runtime plugin for browser in debian ?
[17:47] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: it works via IcedTea, which is open :) But I think you have to search the ubuntuforums, I think I have added sth to the repos, I don't remember what. lemme check my sources.list
[17:47] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: type sudo grub and it will take you into a different shell with different commands basically
[17:47] <bolba> hello, how do I get mplayer working in Opera?
[17:48] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: if java plugins work, I'll go back to 64bit. I have had nothing but wierd problem after wierder problem with 32 bit all freakin week
[17:48] <oliver_g_> hey
[17:48] <eBryon> #list
[17:48] <oliver_g_> do you know how to configure totem-xine?
[17:49] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: find /boot/grub/stage1  <--that is the command
[17:49] <oliver_g_> i want to set a different video driver in totem-xine but there are no advanced settings at all :-(
[17:49] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: it looks like (hd0,0) is most likely correct though
[17:49] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: are u on 64bit?
[17:50] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: it's working on my PC, lemme pastebin you my sources.list so that you have the repo in question. I don't remember anything about the GPG key, though, but you should search the forums for answers (I am on 64bit)
[17:50] <e-head_> hey. I'm way out of date.
[17:50] <orionjoe> #ubuntuforums
[17:50] <the08hulk> u get my pm?
[17:51] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: great. I was gonna ask u to do that :)
[17:51] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: said command output (hd0,6)
[17:51] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: me? nope....
[17:51] <the08hulk> hhmm wired whe u write to me it shoes in the public server not private
[17:52] <the08hulk> altho u wrote hello it came out
[17:52] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: are u registered?
[17:52] <e-head_> Hey, can apt re-configure packages for you? I forget what tool you use for this?  dpkg-reconfigure ?
[17:52] <the08hulk> yea..the08hulk@yahoo.com
[17:52] <e-head_> I need to reconfigure exim4
[17:52] <Clearzen> if you do root (hd0,6)   then   setup (hd0) and finally   quit. that should automatically add windows to your grub menu
[17:52] <__machine> i just installed libapache2-pmod-php5 on ubuntu gutsy... it works in safari but firefox wants to download the php file instead of displaying it..? the saved file has the raw source...
[17:53] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: I have sent 3 pm's to u and dont see any from u....
[17:53] <the08hulk> hhmm how would i chek this out..
[17:53] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: go to #ubuntu-offtopic with me, k?
[17:53] <the08hulk> i know i put in a passwork n all, email verificatoin..
[17:53] <oliver_g_> never mind, found the totem-xine config file at .gnome2/Totem/xine_config
[17:53] <the08hulk> yep
[17:53] <javb> guys, have a lot of problems with flash and firefox, install ubuntufox, and falsh didnt work, had to install flash-nonfree plugin and gnflash... but there are a lot of errors, example: youtube buttoms out of place, mmm, some animations arent visiable.. any ideas?
[17:53] <pmratpoison> <WorkingOnWise: http://pastebin.com/m1842cbc4 Beware, I have the backports and proposed repos enabled (I think). I also have medibuntu, so if it's illegal for you to install w64codecs, you shouldn't :p
[17:54] <RenaN-rox> ;)
[17:54] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: ty vm! As to the legality...I invite them to sue me for doing on linux what i can do on windows on the same laptop :D
[17:54] <the08hulk> hey wow sory man how do i get there..?
[17:55] <the08hulk> nervermind
[17:55] <the08hulk> looking for it
[17:56] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Is it only a civil suit? I always thought it was a criminal case for some reason.
[17:56] <kane77> is there any program that could make compressed folders? (that would seem like normal folders to programs but would be archives really)
[17:57] <javb> guys, have a lot of problems with flash and firefox, install ubuntufox, and falsh didnt work, had to install flash-nonfree plugin and gnflash... but there are a lot of errors, example: youtube buttoms out of place, mmm, some animations arent visiable.. any ideas?
[17:57] <Clearzen> kane77: you could always change the extension. Most programs just look at that
[17:57] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: I would personally hunt down what they call "piracy" to the ends of the earth. The only way for windows to die is If can't be obtained at no cost, through piracy or OEM
[17:57] <kane77> Clearzen, is it really that easy?
[17:58] <Clearzen> kane77: Yeah, pretty much. I don't know about making it look like a folder, but you could make it look like another file type.
[17:58] <pastor> can someone help me to get Youtube working on firefox? I'm using the latest Ububtu?
[17:58] <Ruge-> hello to everybody
[17:59] <pmratpoison> pastor > !flashissues
[17:59] <Clearzen> kane77: linux doesn't care about extensions. But the GUI frontend does
[17:59] <Tyczek> I have lock screen at "context key" I want to disable it, but it's not in shortcuts?
[17:59] <pmratpoison> pastor: sorry, wait just a sec
[17:59] <kane77> Clearzen, hmm.. well I want to compress the irc logs.. they are getting kind of big lately :) they are stored in a folder and it'd be cool if I could gzip it (while still only append to it instead of creating new logs...)
[17:59] <geoff_> anyone know if i can take my scripts from mIRC on windows and just add them to the ~/.xchat2 directory and they'll just work?
[17:59] <pastor> pmratpoison, what do I do with that. Excuse my ignorance.
[18:00] <pastor> k
[18:00] <e-head_> anyone still running breezy?
[18:00] <e-head_> how out of date is it?
[18:00] <Pici> !breezy | e-head_
[18:00] <ubotu> e-head_: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[18:00] <e-head_> !eol
[18:00] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[18:00] <Clearzen> kane77: hmmm, I haven't tried that before. gzip may have built in commands to append to a archive. I know in bash it is >> to append to a item. I don't know if that will work though.
[18:00] <Pici> e-head_: It is no longer supported
[18:01] <e-head_> i can tell.
[18:01] <e-head_> i tried to apt-get install something and the sources.list file is defunct now.
[18:01] <e-head_> Pici: so, what do I do?
[18:01] <e-head_> Can I add the new sources and apt-get upgrade?
[18:01] <e-head_> Or is it harder than that?
[18:01] <wols> e-head_: you upgraed to dapper
[18:02] <Pici> e-head_: You can upgrade to dapper.
[18:02] <Pici> !upgrade | e-head_
[18:02] <ubotu> e-head_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:02] <e-head_> lsb_release -a
[18:03] <e-head_> whoops
[18:03] <pmratpoison> !flashplayer
[18:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:03] <Pici> !flashissues
[18:03] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:03] <justin__> hi
[18:04] <justin__> i need a program to play dvd's i tried a lot but couldnt find anything
[18:04] <Pici> !dvd | justin__
[18:04] <ubotu> justin__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:05] <pmratpoison> pastor | flashissues
[18:05] <pmratpoison> pastor | !flashissues
[18:05] <pmratpoison> !flashissues | pastor
[18:05] <ubotu> pastor: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:05] <e-head_> alright. here goes.
[18:05] <pmratpoison> FINALLY
[18:05] <jimcooncat> e-head_: I just upgraded my gf laptop from breezy to gutsy. Worked well because I had her /home in a separate partition; did full install and told it not to overwrite /home. Worked real slick.
[18:06] <Delvien> Setting up a laptop for a buddy, are there any repos i need to add for media ? its been a long time since ive had to install ubuntu again :P
[18:06] <e-head_> jimcooncat: I'm going to just try "apt-get update" and see what happens.
[18:06] <pmratpoison> pastor: that's what fixed it for me
[18:07] <pastor> Where do I type that pmrarposion?
[18:07] <pryan75> how do I run makefile.pl?
[18:07] <e-head_> It's worked for a couple of updates. It always somewhat amazes me.
[18:07] <filo86> I cant get into my directory via net from windows - user/passwd window appears
[18:07] <pastor> pmratpoison, where do I type that?
[18:08] <pmratpoison> pastor: where do you type what? the instructions on the forum page?
[18:08] <pastor> ok, thanks
[18:08] <e-head_> There is goes!  I'll check back in a couple of hours and see if my system is still alive, hee hee.
[18:09] <kiki7> how can i change the server pls?
[18:09] <kiki7> what have i to type in?
[18:09] <Pici> kiki7: What server?
[18:09] <e-head_> what's really crazy is it can do all this while everything is running. Including my irc client.
[18:09] <e-head_> I guess the old binaries/libraries get swapped out of memeory after a reboot.
[18:09] <kiki7> lol i want to go to the dieban server right now, because i ve a great problem and unfortunately i klicked ubuntu ^
[18:10] <x-X-x> anyone here play ut2004 and care to help me ? i cant seem to be able to run the game, ive installed it but i cant run it this is what i get: $ ut2004
[18:10] <x-X-x> Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file
[18:10] <x-X-x> History:
[18:10] <x-X-x> Exiting due to error
[18:10] <Pici> kiki7: just type /j #debian
[18:10] <Pici> kiki7: we are on the same server.
[18:11] <kiki7> aah ok thank you Pici I know, but I think the majority of ubuntu users dont know how to use debian thats why i want to get my support by them :)
[18:11] <g0rb3hy> How do I stop ndiswrapper -m reporting module configuration already contains an alias direcitve? (ive loaded a new driver)
[18:12] <lusepuster> Hi, trying again - how do I get my swap partition to be recognized by the system? I can't even do a manual "swapon -a" now, it says it's an invalid argument...
[18:12] <BlkGhost> is there any really good desktop enhancements like compiz that I can get cause I cannot get compiz to work for the life of me... ?????????//
[18:12] <kiki7> I dont want to seem arrogate, lol I just wanted you to explain why I searched the debian server Pici :)
[18:12] <DivineSpectrum> #ubuntu-it
[18:13] <pmratpoison> BlkGhost: what have you tried so far?
[18:13] <donkdon1> correct me if i am wrong but it appears that 7.10 desktop does not come with a firewall enabled? or at least there are no rules in iptables?
[18:13] <BlkGhost> ummm nothing... Just been trying to get compiz working
[18:14] <pmratpoison> nvidia or ati?
[18:14] <BlkGhost> I'm still waiting for E17 to come out before I try that
[18:14] <BlkGhost> Nvidia 6800
[18:14] <pmratpoison> I can't really help you then, I use ati
[18:14] <nightangel> hello ! I have a problem with Mac-On-Linux about an impossible access to a folder (directory) i create using Nautilus as root. can someone help me please ?
[18:15] <BlkGhost> but can you reccommend any other programs ?
[18:15] <wols> nightangel: cheange the permissions of that folder
[18:15] <wols> !permissions
[18:15] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[18:15] <pmratpoison> BlkGhost: Not that I know of
[18:15] <uasc> hi guys
[18:15] <wols> BlkGhost: have you installed the restricted drievrs for your videocard?
[18:15] <neverblue> good jabber server to use ?
[18:16] <nightangel> wols : i tried to modified the permissions from read-only to read-write, but nothing works anymore
[18:16] <BlkGhost> yeah
[18:16] <uasc> can somoeone help me with installing kde4 on a fresh copy of ubuntu 7.10?
[18:16] <BlkGhost> still doesn't wprk
[18:16] <wols> nightangel: ls -l /path/to/folder
[18:16] <Pici> donkdon1: No, there are no rules by defeault, but iptables is installed.  There is also nothing listening on anything so a firewall really isnt needed.
[18:16] <uasc> i installed the proper sources line but I don't get "KDE 4" in the login screen as an option
[18:16] <wols> BlkGhost: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[18:16] <Oli``> uasc: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[18:16] <wols> uasc: have you actually installed kde4? with what command?
[18:17] <uasc> oli, will try thanks!
[18:17] <Oli``> uasc: oh kde4...
[18:17] <nightangel> wols : ok, i am trying what you said :)
[18:17] <donkdon1> Pici: thankls
[18:17] <wols> uasc: won't wokr. he didn't read about the "4"
[18:17] <Oli``> uasc: that will install kde3
[18:17] <uasc> I installed KDE4 as per these instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:17] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l |grep  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:18] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:18] <wols> grah!
[18:18] <uasc> I used synaptic sources manager under "3rd party" tab and used synaptic to check the boxes to the right packages
[18:18] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l | grep kdebase-kde4
[18:18] <justin__> i installed everything it told me to do in the ubuntu dvd playback manual
[18:18] <justin__> it still wont play dvds
[18:18] <justin__> wat do i try now
[18:18] <J-_> !dvd
[18:19] <clemyeats> justin__: you've got libdvdread and libdvdcss installed?
[18:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:19] <anderswc> where can I change the default boot os for my dual boot pc?
[18:19] <ng0n> kojiro: you and me both.
[18:19] <wols> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:19] <uasc> i'm in ubuntu but I am looking in "applications" menu and can't find an xterm
[18:19] <uasc> is it under a diff list?
[18:19] <wols> uasc: gnome terminal?
[18:19] <nightangel> wols : it doesn't work. it makes me an error message : direct link is not allowed for a directory
[18:20] <uasc> ok there is a terminal in the accessories submenu... didn't realize it would be buried that deeply
[18:20] <uasc> dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:20] <uasc> dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:20] <uasc> command not found
[18:20] <Boris> hi
[18:21] <uasc>  kdebase-kde4: command not found
[18:21] <justin__> libdvdcss??? it didnt tell me to install that
[18:21] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l |grep kdebase-kde4
[18:21] <Boris> does anyone know whether 7 GB DVDs exist ???
[18:21] <clemyeats> uasc: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal to get the terminal on the nautilus context menu.
[18:21] <wols> Boris: they do
[18:21] <justin__> and on the terminal command it said command not found
[18:21] <wols> Boris: there are 9GB DVDs
[18:21] <uasc> ii  kdebase-kde4                               4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1            base components from the official KDE releas
[18:21] <Boris> really ???
[18:21] <Boris> never heard of em
[18:21] <Boris> gonna tell dad to buy em
[18:21] <wols> Boris: dvds always were specified at 9GB and most movie dvds are 9GB
[18:21] <uasc> I have installed all 3 packages it listed in that tutorial on the website
[18:22] <wols> Boris: a DVD is NOT a DVD-R
[18:22] <justin__> where do i find libdvdcss???
[18:22] <luca> hello everybody is there anybody who can help me to lanch compiz
[18:22] <clemyeats> justin__: in medibuntu I guess.
[18:22] <Symmetria> hrm, anyone know how to speed up rm, I cannot fathom why rm'ing large files takes so long
[18:22] <Boris> wols : i know that
[18:22] <wols> justin__: you've been told about it by ubotue already
[18:22] <Fishscene> DVD's are by defenition "Dual layer". DVD-R's are unfortunately, only 1 layer
[18:22] <nightangel> Boris : i heard that DVD with 8,5 Go exists, but i don't know if they got 2 faces or only 1
[18:22] <Boris> luca : open terminal and type "compiz --replace"
[18:22] <luca> if i write compiz --replace
[18:22] <luca> boris this is the output
[18:22] <|Dreams|> can someone tell me how i would make a link to a folder on kde that will be on my taskbar where show desktop and the k menu button is please
[18:23] <justin__> where is mediabuntu
[18:23] <wols> nightangel: those are NOT DVDs but DVD-Rs
[18:23] <Fishscene> Nightangel, it depends on whether the company is duping you are not
[18:23] <Pici> !medibuntu | justin__
[18:23] <ubotu> justin__: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[18:23] <luca> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[18:23] <luca> No whitelisted driver found
[18:23] <luca> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[18:23] <wols> luca: what driver do you use?
[18:23] <Boris> luca : do you have fglrx driver ?
[18:23] <nightangel> ok
[18:23] <neverblue> when I do a aptitude search, what do the 'letters' mean, i == installed, etc....
[18:23] <luca> the restricted driver
[18:23] <neverblue> i dont see it in man aptitude
[18:23] <s26hax> irc.2600.net
[18:23] <Pici> neverblue: There are headers at the top of the list that show what they mean
[18:24] <uasc> what does this mean?
[18:24] <uasc> To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[18:24] <clemyeats> neverblue: v=virtual, p=not installed.
[18:24]  * MTeck has left
[18:24] <neverblue> Pici negative
[18:24] <s26hax> join #irc.2600.net
[18:24] <Symmetria> heh a DVD+R and a DVD-R are 4.5gig basically, the 8.5gig disks are also not normal dvd disks, they are dvd DUAL LAYER disks
[18:24] <Boris> luca : you have to tell compiz that fglrx driver provides 3d effects as well. wait, ill give you instructions
[18:24] <Symmetria> and those dual layer disks are still insanely expensive
[18:24] <Pici> neverblue: Perhaps I was thinking dpkg -l
[18:24] <luca> ok thx
[18:24] <neverblue> clemyeats, I was more so looking for a listing of what all are, not just the top 3 :)
[18:24] <uasc> do you think having compiz installed on ubuntu will effect my KDE4 install?
[18:24] <luca> i use ati restricted driver
[18:24] <wols> luca: then install xserver-xgl
[18:25] <Fishscene> DVD movies are Dual layer- just like Dual layer DVD's on the market
[18:25] <wols> !xgl | luca
[18:25] <ubotu> luca: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:25] <clemyeats> neverblue: I never found one... you kind of guess after a while :)
[18:25] <Fishscene> Dual layer DVD-R's
[18:25] <Boris> luca : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#3D_desktop_effects
[18:25] <nightangel> wols : the directory is still unreachable
[18:25] <freepenguin> hello men
[18:25] <wols> nightangel: I asked you something
[18:25] <neverblue> clemyeats, well, there is one :)
[18:25] <Boris> luca : use the "3D desktop effects"
[18:25] <Symmetria> Fishscene *nod*
[18:25] <clemyeats> neverblue: did you find it?
[18:26] <Fishscene> For Compiz, are there known issues with ATI graphics cards?
[18:26] <neverblue> clemyeats, no, but obviously there is documentation on it
[18:26] <SpComb> I just installed 7.10 on a machine with a 7800 GT, I have the nvidia binary drivers installed, and my dual displays configured with Xinerama. When I try and enable desktop effects, it just tells me "Desktop effects could not be enabled", I'm not sure how to dig up more info on why, but when I try and run coompiz on the command line, it ends up segfaulting, but it does say something about missing xgl: http://pb.paivola.fi/423
[18:26] <luca> ok boris i follow the instruction.... do they works also on ati drivers?
[18:26] <Boris> SpComb, if you got AIGLX you dont need XGL
[18:26] <Boris> luca : you mean fglrx or radeon ?
[18:27] <nightangel> wols : it doesn't works. it makes me an error message : direct link is not allowed for a directory
[18:27] <Boris> luca : they work on fglrx (driver in restricted manager)
[18:27] <wols> anderswc: what was the command?
[18:27] <luca> it's a mobility radeon x700
[18:27] <shadowxp> Where are the settings for Compiz in GNome?
[18:27] <justin__> i try to install libdvdcss2 and it tells me "Error:Dependency is not satisfyable : libdvdcss2
[18:27] <justin__> "
[18:27] <wols> justin__: install it via apt-get and give us the FULL output in a pastebin
[18:27] <pmratpoison> justin__: which method are you using?
[18:28] <Boris> luca : are you sure your card is supported by fglrx driver ?
[18:28] <Pici> justin__: If you added the medibuntu repos, you need to apt-get update first.
[18:28] <luca> no i don't
[18:28] <Boris> luca : "radeon" is the name of opensource driver, which doesnt have complete 3D support
[18:28] <freewilly> hi, anyone using a cs46xx audiocard without crakled sound
[18:28] <wols> luca: what card exactly is it?
[18:28] <justin__> im using gdebi package installer
[18:28] <NemesisD> hi everybody, i've got kind of an interesting boot situation that is causing me some problems, my first drive in my boot order is a WD, no boot flag, windows xp on it, my 2nd drive in the boot list houses linux, and I want it to house grub. I need some help setting up grub on a non-first hard drive because right now I keep getting error 22 :/
[18:28] <luca> i used restricted drivers because gibbon suggedst to me
[18:28] <Boris> luca : fglrx is the name of ATI's new driver that has complete 3D support
[18:28] <luca> it's  radeon x700 mobility
[18:29] <wols> nightangel: bad setup
[18:29] <luca> it's in my acer ferrari 4500
[18:29] <Pici> Boris: fglrx are the restricted drivers that Ubuntu installed.
[18:29] <Pici> s/installed/installs
[18:29] <Boris> Pici, yes, i know that. the problem is which version ubuntu installed
[18:29] <Clearzen> NemesisD: Do you have a live disk?
[18:29] <luca> mine is 7.10
[18:29] <clemyeats> justin__: then you need to download all dependencies and install all packages together, but trust me, it's much simpler to use the repository.
[18:30] <wols> Boris: if the drivers don't work on that hardware, fglrx will let the user know it
[18:30] <nightangel> wols : what do you mean by "bad setup" ?
[18:30] <clemyeats> !dvd
[18:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:30] <rich__> wols do you know much about /dev/mapper
[18:30] <Boris> luca : your card seems to be supported
[18:30] <justin__> ok how do i do that
[18:30] <luca> so what i have to do?
[18:30] <justin__> i followed the instructions on the repository site
[18:30] <Pici> Boris: IF you're suggesting to use the version that has aiglx support, then it will break when you do a kernel upgrade, you know that right?
[18:30] <NemesisD> Clearzen, sure do, i'm on it right now, i can boot to my linux partition if I switch the boot priority but I don't want to because it just causes a drive numbering nightmare
[18:30] <SpComb> Boris: how do I know if I have AIGLX or not? Is there a module to load in xorg.conf?
[18:30] <luca> the fact is that
[18:30] <neverblue> when I do a aptitude search, what do the 'letters' mean, i == installed, etc....
[18:30] <wols> nightangel: the way you describe it you need to muck in XP's boot ini and then load grub in a second stage. simply stupid setup when you could let it load grub directly from where you can directly run any installed OS
[18:30] <luca> when i downloaded compiz it worked
[18:31] <Boris> SpComb : do you have fglrx ? what version of it ?
[18:31] <luca> than it gave me error...and on the nrxt reboot it won't work
[18:31] <Clearzen> NemesisD: what is the output of fdisk -l?
[18:31] <Boris> Pici : yes i know that, but which version did ubuntu install
[18:31] <J_P> hi all
[18:31] <Pici> Boris: The one that doesnt have aiglx support.
[18:31] <SpComb> Boris: the fglrx-driver package is uninstalled, I guess I should install that?
[18:31] <administrator_> hi!
[18:31] <uasc> can someone help me with my KDE4 install on Ubuntu 7.10? i used the instructions for RC2 on ubuntu 7.10 but they didn't give me the "KDE 4" option in the login manager of ubuntu
[18:31] <Pici> Boris: That was released after Gutsy was released.
[18:31] <J_P> people, you know how is possible sabe one atached file from tunderbinrd directaly do network ?
[18:32] <luca> can u tell me how to discover what version i have?
[18:32] <shadowxp> Where are the advanced settings for Emerald/Compiz in Ubuntu?
[18:32] <administrator_> I have some problems there with mysql... any help?
[18:32] <Pici> !ccsm | shadowxp
[18:32] <ubotu> shadowxp: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[18:32] <shadowxp> thanks
[18:32] <justin__> celmyeats: how do i use the repository
[18:32] <administrator_> I installed jasperserver and bundled mysql and can't run mysql server
[18:32] <SpComb> hmm, it's a virtual package provided by xorg-driver-fglrx, but installing that wants to remove nvidia-glx-new
[18:32] <Boris> SpComb : ifyou want 3D effects with AIGLX, you are going to have to install those drivers, but it's risky.
[18:32] <neverblue> administrator_, try in #mysql ?
[18:32] <NemesisD> Clearzen, http://pastebin.ca/841505
[18:32] <Boris> luca : type 'fglrxinfo' in terminal
[18:33] <administrator_> ok, thnx!
[18:33] <clemyeats> justin__: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[18:33] <pmratpoison> justin__ : the way I made it work. I enabled the medibuntu repository, as per the instructions on site. Then I did sudo apt-get update Then I opened synaptic and I searched for medibuntu. Then I installed everything I had wanted
[18:33] <SpComb> Boris: and remove the nvidia-glx-new package?
[18:33] <luca> boris....see u later...my mother is calling for lunch
[18:33] <Boris> luca : bye
[18:33] <Boris> SpComb,  sorry, what card u got ?
[18:33] <Clearzen> NemesisD: You are going to have to create a directory to mount the drive with ubuntu on it
[18:34] <Boris> SpComb : ati or nvidia ?
[18:34] <J_P> anyon can help me/todl me if is possible  save one atached file from tunderbinrd directaly do network ?
[18:34] <neverblue> when I do a aptitude search, what do the 'letters' mean, i == installed, etc....
[18:34] <SpComb> Boris: nVidia 7800 GT
[18:34] <Boris> SpComb : wow, i messed up
[18:34] <clemyeats> neverblue: :)
[18:34] <Boris> SpComb : fglrx is for ati cards
[18:34] <neverblue> clemyeats, ;)
[18:34] <NemesisD> Clearzen, done
[18:34] <SpComb> right
[18:34] <nightangel> wols : what's the rapport between Mac-On-Linux and Grub ?
[18:35] <Boris> SpComb : sorry, i cant help you
[18:35] <Clearzen> NemesisD: then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdd3  /mnt/root  of course you want to mount to the directory you created
[18:35] <Boris> I only know how to check it on ati cards
[18:35] <wols> nightangel: what should it be? you wouldn't boot mac-on-linux or it wouldn't be called that duh!
[18:35] <wols> besides: MoL only works on real macs, and none of those work with grub
[18:36] <WorkingOnWise>  if I did dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages on a 32 bit Ubuntu Gutsy, and then used that file on a 64 bit install, would apt be smart enough to fix the problems resulting from the package differences between 32 and 64 bit?
[18:36] <wols> nightangel: so please ask sensible questions in the future
[18:36] <NemesisD> Clearzen, yep
[18:36] <Clearzen> NemesisD: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sdd3
[18:36] <Clearzen> NemesisD: that should work for you
[18:37] <NemesisD> Clearzen, ok, i'm going to try it out, brb
[18:37] <Clearzen>  NemesisD: if you get bios errors run with the . --recheck
[18:37] <Quicksilva> does anyone know a way of creating a xorg.conf file thats automated
[18:38] <J_P> is possible in thunderbird/firefox choice "save as" and save in network (samba directory) ?
[18:38] <Clearzen> Quicksilva: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:38] <wols> Clearzen: not automated
[18:38] <justin__> ok i added the repository now how do i get the package(s) i need
[18:38] <Clearzen> Quicksilva: it will backup your old xorg.conf file and produce a new one
[18:38] <wols> J_P: of course
[18:38] <Clearzen> Quicksilva: You don't have to write it by hand
[18:39] <Quicksilva> yeah thats cool, i mean i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure to create one
[18:39] <Quicksilva> and its always broken
[18:39] <Quicksilva> for some reason, x server doesnt load :S
[18:39] <Quicksilva> gonna try that full command now maybe it works,  i
[18:40] <J_P> wols: how I do that ? Because here open the window "save as" but don't show possible to save on network like as when I choice menu "local" -> "network"
[18:40] <wols> J_P: your samba share is mounted somewhere
[18:42] <J_P> wols: but I don't like mounted in file system, I would like mount automatically without create a mounted smb in fs (df show that)
[18:43] <J_P> wols: like as smb://server1/temp/tmp/pdf/
[18:43] <dtidd> having trouble explaining irc to my friend
[18:43] <justin__> ok i installed libdvdcss2 i installed everything ubuntu told me to and it still wont play dvd's
[18:43] <J_P> wols: like as smb://server1/temp/tmp/pdf/ on nautilues
[18:43] <J_P> nautilus
[18:44] <J_P> I think is needed some samba support/integration with thunderbird firefox ?
[18:44] <rodolfo> where can i find "GNU gettext tools" or something related...?
[18:45] <Clearzen> rodolfo: sudo aptitude search gettext
[18:45] <wols> J_P: you can't
[18:45] <dtidd> thanks
[18:45] <WorkingOnWise>  if I did dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages on a 32 bit Ubuntu Gutsy, and then used that file on a 64 bit install, would apt be smart enough to fix the problems resulting from the package differences between 32 and 64 bit?
[18:45] <neverblue> anyone have ejabberd installed and working, when I go to port localhost:5280, I just get 'not found', so the admin page isnt coming up, looking for ideas as to why that might be
[18:46] <J_P> wols: that if is possible will be perfect.. like in windows... to save on network from application...
[18:46] <rodolfo> Clearzen: if i find it on aptitude, it means its already installed?
[18:46] <PirateHead> I need help encrypting and decrypting messages using my DSA OpenPGP key. Can somebody walk me through it? The tool I'm currently trying to use is openssl, but I would be willing to use something else if it were easier.
[18:46] <NemesisD> Clearzen, no go, grub error 22, it looked like it started loading grub stage 1.5 and then i got that error :/
[18:46] <Clearzen> rodolfo: no, those are the packages available to be installed
[18:47] <Clearzen> NemesisD: hmm, one sec
[18:47] <x-X-x> ive installed unreal tournament 2004 and im getting stripped boxes when playing and the settings page has a white backround does anyone know whats happening ? i set it to 32bit
[18:48] <Clearzen> NemesisD: alright enter grub with sudo grub then find /boot/grub/stage1
[18:49] <Clearzen> NemesisD: what does it output?
[18:50] <NemesisD> Clearzen, well this kind of confuses me, it says hd3,2
[18:50] <mayorbuttes> Is there a way to force a text based installed to run rather than a GUI one on a standard cd, or will ihave to download the alternative ISO?
[18:50] <Clearzen> NemesisD: root (hd3,2)
[18:50] <Clearzen> NemesisD: that is the command you should run
[18:50] <J_Man> standard cd is livecd
[18:51] <J_Man> don't think you can do anything but get the livecd desktop with it
[18:51] <NemesisD> Clearzen, should i have chrooted before this or something? and is there anything else I need to do?
[18:51] <mayorbuttes> J_Man: Thanks, that's what I was asking.
[18:51] <Clearzen> NemesisD: then setup (hd3,2)   no, you shouldn't have to chroot it. I've had to do that before but it was giving me different errors
[18:52] <Clearzen> NemesisD: after you run setup (which is the key really) then type quit and it should boot normally.
[18:53] <NemesisD> Clearzen, ok off to find out :)
[18:54] <justin__> how can i play encrypted dvds???
[18:54] <Clearzen> justin__: dude, give up. If you haven't gotten it yet no one here can help you.
[18:55] <justin__> well maybe if someone tried
[18:55] <justin__> other ppl do it
[18:55] <justin__> i must be doing something wrong an di just need a lil help
[18:55] <Clearzen> !restricted ok, hows this
[18:56] <willskills`work> justin__, you could try google, and reading
[18:56] <Clearzen> !restricted formats
[18:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:56] <willskills`work> generally that is what people do
[18:56] <willskills`work> rather than wait to be spoon fed answers
[18:56] <aliljet> lol, hardest linux quiz ever: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Nerd_Quiz_You_re_not_hardcore_enough
[18:56] <aliljet> well, nerd quiz actually
[18:56] <rake_> What does the command testparam do?
[18:56] <justin__> i tried i couldnt find it, i havent used linux long
[18:57] <dury> hi there channel :)
[18:57] <dury> trying to run mysql not success
[18:59] <WindowSmasher> Hello hello all!
[19:00] <rodolfo> Clearzen: i'm trying to install the newest (and stable) release of eye of gnome but when running the command ./configure it returns "JPEG Loader will not be built(JPEG Library not found)".
[19:01] <bmoney> !ot
[19:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:01] <dury> it says - ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:01] <khermans> rodolfo, you should install te jpeg dev headers
[19:01] <ezeki3l> where can i get a list of software in ubuntu 7, like the xorg version it has, kernel version, etc?
[19:01] <NemesisD> Clearzen, still getting error 22 :/
[19:01] <ezeki3l> i don't have ubuntu installed
[19:01] <Squee> i know it says that adobe flash installation is broken... but why is it?  its a simple fix
[19:02] <Tyczek> is this good transfer for hdd? : /dev/sda:
[19:02] <Tyczek>  Timing cached reads:   1680 MB in  2.00 seconds = 839.96 MB/sec
[19:02] <Tyczek>  Timing buffered disk reads:  128 MB in  3.02 seconds =  42.35 MB/sec
[19:02] <Pici> ezeki3l: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <khermans> ezeki3l, packages.ubuntu.com
[19:02]  * khermans loses
[19:02] <Clearzen> rodolfo: I'll look at it. I think you need a dev package of some sort more than likely. Let me see if I can pull anything up.
[19:02] <ezeki3l> Tyczek: that's uber super duper fast
[19:02] <luca> boris are u still here?
[19:02] <dury> anyone have mysql installed?
[19:02] <Boris> luca : yes
[19:02] <ezeki3l> Pici: khermans, thanks
[19:02] <Squee> dury:  yea
[19:02] <luca> this is the output
[19:03] <luca> luca@luca-laptop:~$ fglrxinfo
[19:03] <luca> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[19:03] <luca> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[19:03] <luca> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
[19:03] <luca> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[19:03] <bitlbee> hello i trying a lbp2900 printer to work but it is very difficult
[19:03] <Tyczek> ezeki3l, you mean: everything is good configured? I mead DMA and other stuff?
[19:03] <Clearzen> NemesisD: one sec
[19:03] <dury> Squee: could you assist?
[19:03] <bitlbee> i run ubuntu feisty
[19:04] <ezeki3l> loel no
[19:04] <Squee> dury:  what are you having problems with?  install it with "sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0"
[19:04] <luca> boris i wrote u the output
[19:04] <ezeki3l> you have 42MB/sec buffered read, even if you uhave the olde ATA interface, it should be around 100MB
[19:04] <dury> Squee: it says - ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:04] <Boris> luca : you could install XGL, but games wont work in XGL accelerated session
[19:05] <Boris> luca : or you can install newest fglrx driver, hopefully it should work, and you will get AIGLX
[19:05] <Squee> dury:  sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[19:05] <luca> boris i'm not interested in games...i'm interested onlyu in compiz
[19:05] <Mauricio__> anyone taking ubuntu-ltsp questions?
[19:05] <Boris> luca : i must say that i hate XGL
[19:05] <Tyczek> how can i make it fast?
[19:05] <khermans> rodolfo, sudo apt-get build-dep <insert package>
[19:05] <Boris> luca : XGl sessions will be slower
[19:05] <luca> u have nvidia?
[19:05] <Vadi> Xorg using a huge percentage of my cpu - 30-50%. What can I do?
[19:06] <khermans> Vadi, turn off compiz?
[19:06] <uasc> hey does anyone know how to get "KDE 4" selection inside GDM after installing the KDE4 packages for RC2?
[19:06] <Vadi> khermans: It's not compiz - I already tried turning it off.
[19:06] <Boris> luca : no, i got ATI hd 2600pro agp, and i cant use linux
[19:06] <khermans> Vadi, you might be able to run gprof on it to see why it is going slow
[19:06] <Boris> im on windoze currently
[19:06] <juan> what does SIOCSIFFlags operation not supported mean?
[19:07] <dury> Squee: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[19:07] <Vadi> khermans: What argument should I use with that
[19:07] <Squee> dury:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140036
[19:07] <khermans> Vadi, http://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/manual/gprof-2.9.1/html_mono/gprof.html
[19:07] <Boris> luca : if you want XGL, on ubuntu gutsy : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[19:08] <luca> do u think i'll be able to use compiz or not?
[19:08] <Clearzen> NemesisD: If you are getting that error there is some problem with the mbr not grub. To repair it I would use the supergrub disk. Here's the link ----> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[19:08] <luca> boris liten to me first
[19:08] <luca> i installed restricted drivers
[19:08] <Boris> luca : if you install and set up XGL, yes
[19:08] <dury> Squee: maybe a package is missing. what you think?
[19:08] <Vadi> khermans: I'm afraid I don't have time to read a huge manual. Thanks for the help though, I'll just reboot.
[19:08] <Boris> luca : yes, if everything goes ok, compiz will work
[19:09] <rodolfo> khermans:  what does this command do actually?
[19:09] <NemesisD> Clearzen, actually i have it, i've tried a few things in there, perhaps i'm not selecting the right option? (the menu can be rather confusing)
[19:09] <luca> then i did upgrade and dowloaded compiz...when i restarted i had compiz...but with an error message
[19:09] <khermans> rodolfo, installs all build dependencies
[19:09] <Clearzen> NemesisD: What have you tried?
[19:09] <luca> when i restarted compiz was disabled
[19:10] <NemesisD> i've tried liveswapping and then i think i did the fix grub + mbr GNU/Linux thing
[19:10] <NemesisD> but you're saying grub doesn't need fixing
[19:10] <Boris> luca : you did the steps and compiz doesnt work ???
[19:10] <Vanuatoo_> I'm trying to install flash plugin but it fails saying md5sum mismatch
[19:10] <Pici> !flashissues | Vanuatoo_
[19:10] <rodolfo> khermans:  wow! amazing! but...it does the installation only if the package is available in the cache?
[19:10] <penguino> prv911: check your PM window
[19:10] <Vanuatoo_> !flashissues
[19:10] <khermans> rodolfo, only if that package is in apt, yes
[19:11] <ubotu> Vanuatoo_: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:11] <Clearzen> NemesisD: Did you say you had a windows partition? Do you have a xp disk? if so you can boot from that enter the repair mode (CLI) and type fixmbr. But you will have to reinstall grub.
[19:11] <rodolfo> khermans:  i said "in cache" because of apt-cache...whatever. i will try this
[19:11] <khermans> rodolfo, but since you are just building a new version, you should be fine
[19:11] <khermans> rodolfo, not in your local cache, in ubuntu repos
[19:11] <khermans> anywhere
[19:12] <rodolfo> khermans:  hm. got it.
[19:12] <Clearzen> NemesisD: Other than that I wouldn't know what to tell you off the top of my head. I would have to dig around a little to find a different solution.
[19:12] <prv911> can you get a ride?
[19:12] <NemesisD> Clearzen, well i did run fixmbr last night but the thing is that windows's C: is on a different drive than the drive I want to boot from, all it did is flag my western digital as boot which I didn't want
[19:12] <penguino> prv911: check the window that is highlighted red and says "penguino"
[19:12] <Clearzen> NemesisD: that's annoying
[19:12] <luca> boris
[19:12] <luca> no the thoiing is different
[19:13] <penguino> prv911: its on the bottom of the screen
[19:13] <NemesisD> tell me about it
[19:13] <luca> i installed restricted...than downloaded compiz...
[19:13] <prv911> theres nothing there
[19:13] <luca> it worked but an error message come out and when i restarted it won't work
[19:13] <neverblue> anyone know how to get ejabberd running in Ubuntu, I am having issues after the install, to get to the admin page ?
[19:13] <penguino> prv911: it is next to infos, its highlighted red, its my personal msg, click on each one
[19:14] <NemesisD> i kind of want to just switch which SATA port my drives are plugged into but that would be difficult given my system configuration
[19:14] <Boris> luca : yes, you have to install XGL for compiz to work !!!
[19:14] <Clearzen> NemesisD: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144294 In the B section of this post I believe he is detailing what you need to do to get this working properly.
[19:14] <Boris> luca : use the link i gave you !
[19:14] <Quicksilva> Clearzen, for some reason when i create a xorg.conf file using the command you showed earlier.  x server doesnt work (in fact the only way i can get x server to boot is if i delete xorg.conf altogethor :SSS
[19:14] <prv911>  do  a " /msg "
[19:14] <penguino> yes, i did
[19:14] <luca> is there an automated  way
[19:14] <prv911> then where is it
[19:14] <Boris> luca : no
[19:14] <prv911> i dont see anything. looks like its down
[19:14] <penguino> prv911: its red with penguino, next to "info" and "#ubuntu"
[19:14] <Pici> !register | penguino  prv911
[19:14] <ubotu> penguino  prv911: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:14] <Boris> luca : use "ubuntu gutsy fresh install
[19:14] <luca> okm i will try
[19:14] <Boris> luca : those instructions are very easy
[19:15] <penguino> oh oops
[19:15] <luca> boris but why u aren' able to use linux?
[19:15] <Clearzen> Quicksilva: Yeah, it doesn't work all the time it just works most of the time
[19:15] <luca> neither in 2d
[19:15] <prv911> penguino: " #defocus "
[19:15] <Boris> luca : fglrx crashes X completely with my graphics card (HD2600PRO)
[19:15] <Boris> luca : but i can use VESA
[19:16] <khermans> Borbus, you can use the ati driver instead
[19:16] <Boris> luca : but i didnt buy graphics card to use VESA
[19:16] <g0rb3hy> anyone here have a broadcom 4329 based wirless adapter working in 64-bit?
[19:16] <rodolfo> khermans:  what kind of package i should refer to? the package i just dled (eog-2.20.3.tar.bz2) or the pack that is missing (libjpeg)?
[19:16] <Quicksilva> bleh, wish there was a way to do it.  i messed things up trying to get direct rendering to work and now stuck :P
[19:16] <khermans> rodolfo, yes
[19:16] <BlkGhost> IN trying to run a compiz --replace I have lost the MIN MAX AND CLOSE buttons is there a way to get them back >?
[19:16] <igge> how can I change the resulotion from the command line?
[19:16] <luca> ok now i try what happens to mine...
[19:17] <zongii> hey there, just a quick question. to install tcl/tk 8.5 in ubuntu, is it necessary to remove 8.4 before the installation?
[19:17] <khermans> igge, xrandr ?
[19:17] <Sharpie> i'm looking for a download manager (preferably one that integrates with firefox). any suggestions?
[19:17] <prv911> penguino: www.meebo.com, we can chat privatly there
[19:17] <rodolfo> khermans:  weird answer ò_ô
[19:17] <gentux__> after compiz --replace, try "emerald --replace"
[19:17] <khermans> BlkGhost, disable compiz
[19:17] <Boris> luca : issues i experienced do not affect your graphics card or driver
[19:17] <prv911> under messenger yahoo
[19:17] <igge> khermans: aha.. yeah i'll try that.. thanks
[19:17] <Boris> luca : only 7.12 driver does it
[19:17] <BlkGhost> metacity --replace&
[19:17] <RichW> Has any of you ever tried to resize a ext3 partition without loosing data? If so, how did it go?
[19:17] <NemesisD> Clearzen, that chroot thing doesn't seem to work for me, says /dev/sdd3 not found or not block device
[19:18] <Pici> Sharpie: Down them all is a pretty good firefox download manager.
[19:18] <zongii> hey there, just a quick question. to install tcl/tk 8.5 in ubuntu, is it necessary to remove 8.4 before the installation?
[19:18] <ADminS> how i can write ubuntu.iso to blank cd with command line?
[19:18] <Sharpie> Pici: i'd rather use one that doesn't depend on firefox
[19:18] <Pici> Sharpie: Ah, integrates but doesnt depend, eh?
[19:19] <Sharpie> Pici: like pretty much all the windows download managers
[19:19] <igge> khermans: hm... tried to read the man page, but didn't understand what option to use
[19:19] <BlkGhost> i did a metacity --replace& and notthing came back
[19:19] <igge>  khermans: do you know?
[19:20] <pr0nGuy> how do I mount my usb thumbdrives?  it didn't do it automatically in Ubuntu.
[19:20] <gentux__> waht did you type before?
[19:20] <luca> boris i have a problem
[19:20] <ADminS> Hello. would you please tell me how i can burn image to CD using command line
[19:20] <Boris> luca : yes
[19:20] <luca> following the instruction
[19:20] <Boris> yes
[19:21] <luca> when i write
[19:21] <luca> Found fglrx primary device section
[19:21] <luca> Nothing to do, terminating.
[19:21] <Boris> luca : omg
[19:21] <khermans> igge, --display ?
[19:21] <igge> khermans: aha... as simple as xrandr -s 800x600
[19:21] <Boris> luca : you should only do "Fresh gutsy install"
[19:21] <khermans> pr0nGuy, check dmesg
[19:21] <Boris> luca : you dont have feisty
[19:21] <khermans> ADminS, wodim
[19:22] <Boris> luca : and the error you got means that fglrx ALREADY is used as a driver
[19:22] <Boris> luca : so there's nothing to do
[19:22] <luca> boris u give me this page
[19:22] <luca> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#3D_desktop_effects
[19:22] <sanchit> jey can anybody tell me how to write in ntfs partition from ubuntu i can see my ntfs partition but not write in it
[19:22] <pr0nGuy> khermans: can you be a little more specific?
[19:22] <dury> Squee: my phpmyadmin works now
[19:22] <bill> please help me, everytime i goto youtube on firefox on ubuntu, it locks up my entire pc, any idea anyone??
[19:23] <Boris> luca : that was before, i tought you got newest fglrx
[19:23] <linduxed> why does my anjuta have compile but not build??
[19:23] <Boris> luca : sorry if i confused you
[19:23] <luca> is thatr wright
[19:23] <khermans> pr0nGuy, dmesg | tail
[19:23] <CoasterMaster> what's a good video editing program for Ubuntu?
[19:23] <dgjones> !ntfs-3g | sanchit
[19:23] <ubotu> sanchit: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[19:23] <khermans> bill, sounds like flash issues
[19:23] <luca> so what i have to doo?
[19:23] <subzero2000> sanchit: ntfs-3g is what you're looking for.
[19:23] <sanchit> ubotu : thnks
[19:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thnks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:24] <krabador> hi, people, i've some problem with audio playback
[19:24] <linduxed> is it something i havent installed?
[19:24] <khermans> CoasterMasterkino
[19:24] <khermans> CoasterMaster, kino
[19:24] <CoasterMaster> thanks khermans
[19:24] <khermans> CoasterMaster, or pitivi
[19:24] <Arelis> Hi all. Is there something like a "oh no! BOSS!" button or a program i can install that shows a picture of an empty desktop the moment i press it? I want it to work immediately THE MOMENT i press it.
[19:24] <bill> khermans, how do i uninstall flash and reinstall it?
[19:24] <rodolfo> khermans:  is doesnt work. it returns "cannot find source pack for eog-2.20.3.tar.bz2"
[19:24] <Boris> luca : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[19:24] <khermans> Arelis, win+D
[19:24] <krabador> with all the players i tried, i've  a gap audio with all the adio formats i played, from streaming to cd
[19:25] <pr0nGuy> khermans: that's a little better.  But what do I look for?
[19:25] <Boris> luca : you got gutsy probably
[19:25] <khermans> !flash | bill
[19:25] <ubotu> bill: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:25] <Boris> luca : but before you do that
[19:25] <jurandir> algum brazuca
[19:25] <bill> what does !flash mean?
[19:25] <Boris> luca : tell me output of fglrxinfo again please
[19:25] <Pici> !br | jurandir
[19:25] <ubotu> jurandir: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:25] <khermans> rodolfo, you need to add source repositories to your apt conig
[19:25] <luca> i have 7.10
[19:25] <bill> !flash
[19:25] <Arelis> khermans: That makes the taskbar stilll show the windows.
[19:25] <Boris> luca : that's gutsy
[19:25] <luca>  fglrxinfo
[19:25] <Pici> bill: Please read what ubotu said to you above.
[19:26] <luca> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[19:26] <luca> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[19:26] <luca> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
[19:26] <luca> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[19:26] <Pici> !paste | luca
[19:26] <ubotu> luca: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:26] <Tyczek> how can i increase the hdd drive speed?
[19:26] <bill> thanks for not helping me
[19:26] <Pici> bill: ?
[19:27] <bill> i am new
[19:27] <bill> i just want help please
[19:27] <Pici> bill: Did you see what ubotu said?
[19:27] <Pici> bill: It addresses your issue.
[19:27] <luca> boris can we talk in pvt please?
[19:27] <bill> well now my box is frozen again
[19:27] <Boris> luca : ok, you didnt damage your machine with newest fglrx driver installation
[19:27] <Boris> luca : yes
[19:27] <bill> i went to the site and it froze my computer
[19:27] <nnoeonn> Hello guys, i got a "small" problem, when i type "glxinfo | grep rendering" in console i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[19:27] <nnoeonn> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)"
[19:28] <rodolfo> khermans:  enabled third-party repos, but the command line you said still doesnt work
[19:28] <nnoeonn> Now how do i insall XFree85~
[19:28] <bill> Pici, it didnt help at all
[19:28] <Pici> bill: I'm sorry, I misread.  Reinstalling flash isnt going to help much.
[19:28] <bill> this is bullshit
[19:28] <Pici> !language | bill
[19:28] <khermans> rodolfo, not third party -- source repos
[19:28] <ubotu> bill: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:29] <bill> what does !language mean
[19:29] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i make a ls search query such that files only larger than say 5Mb are displayed
[19:29] <khermans> Pici, flash is not open source dude
[19:29] <bill> explain
[19:29] <Boris> luca : oh, you have to be registered
[19:29] <khermans> bill, ^^
[19:29] <Pici> bill: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:29] <Pici> khermans: I know.
[19:29] <shaft0> I'm trying to setup Gutsy with LVM.  Basically, the root drive as being a primary normal drive, and the other 8 drives as an LVM.  When I partition in the alternate CD, I partition the root drive twice, one for /, and one for swap.  When I try to boot, it hangs on GRUB.  It just says GRUB, but the grub menu doesn't come up.  Any ideas?
[19:29] <pike_> bill: its a trigger for the bot
[19:29] <khermans> Pici, so i dont understand why you are frustrated
[19:29] <bill> ok so how do i get flash to work?
[19:29] <bill> cant u explain
[19:29] <Pici> khermans: I'm not frustrated.
[19:29] <jcg42> Is there an image editing program easier than gimp (like Paint or Paint.net for Windows)?
[19:29] <pike_> !flashissue| bill
[19:29] <ubotu> bill: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:29] <bill> !flashissue
[19:29] <Pici> pike_: Thats not his problem
[19:29] <nnoeonn> shaft0: did you install the grub loader on you harddrive?
[19:29] <pike_> bill: oh sorry ignore that
[19:30] <khermans> bill, well you can follow the instructions that have been shows to you 3 times now
[19:30] <luca> how do i register?
[19:30] <bill> am i supposed to type !flashissue?
[19:30] <michazoet_> hi to all
[19:30] <Pici> bill: The problem is that flash freezes on some sites?
[19:30] <bill> !flashissue
[19:30] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:30] <igge> how can I check if a program is running from a bash script?
[19:30] <pike_> bill: what was your problem again?
[19:30] <bill> yes flash is freezing my whole cpu
[19:30] <Pici> bill: On every site? or just some sites?
[19:30] <pike_> bill: ok that link wont help with that
[19:30] <khermans> igge, ps ?
[19:30] <bill> youtube and every site that has flash
[19:30] <shaft0> nnoeonn: AFAIK it did, but it didn't give me an option to choose between LILO and GRUB, which I found strange.
[19:30] <ethan961> NMIeonn:u need the Sri section on ur /etc/X11/cord.config
[19:30] <juan> where should bcm43xx.ko be , my wireless is complaining it has no firmware
[19:30] <bill> please help me
[19:31] <bill> im 65 yrs old
[19:31] <neverblue> anyone know how to get ejabberd running in Ubuntu, I am having issues after the install, to get to the admin page ?
[19:31] <khermans> bill, flash cannot be debugged by ubuntu developers
[19:31] <igge> khermans: how would I do that? I want to make an if statement like: if <program> is running do ...
[19:31] <ethan961> srry, I can't type today
[19:31] <bill> whats the point of having ubuntu if i cant surf the internet to sites that have flash?
[19:31] <khermans> bill, is you computer old?
[19:31] <bill> no
[19:31] <neverblue> bill install flash
[19:31] <luca> boris
[19:31] <khermans> bill, are you running ubuntu gutsy and you have enough RAM?
[19:31] <luca> where have u gone
[19:31] <bill> how do i install flash?
[19:32] <bill> i have 512
[19:32] <neverblue> bill do you know how to install any programs ?
[19:32] <nnoeonn> shaft0 well, last time i installed gutsy, I don't think i got the option to choose either, but i remember that i could choose wich drive i would like to install on
[19:32] <Pici> bill: I'm sorry for the confusing, is this a new install.
[19:32] <bill> and the newest version of ubuntu
[19:32] <uasc> Hi, where do you change the options on which desktops you can choose from in GDM? I have KDE4 RC2 installed per the howto but KDE4 option never showed up in GDM or KDM and so I can't figure any other way to get KDE4 to run. Can you help me>?
[19:32] <sanchit> help me can anybody tell me how to boot ubuntu from external hard disk without using a crappy bootable cd
[19:32] <khermans> bill, ok so if your CPU is also fast, you should be fine
[19:32] <uasc> I'm running ubuntu 7.10
[19:32] <amitprakash> hi.. how do i make a ls search query such that files only larger than say 5Mb are displayed.. will the full path?
[19:32] <usuario_> how can I change the shared lib version that is being used by a binary ?
[19:32] <tripps> i am trying to find for the life of me the supposed rhytmbox equalizer plugin that comes with gstreamer-plugins-bad package, etc., that is discussed ad nauseum on the forums, but for the life of my i cannot find it. i've installed the -bad, -ugly and all othe variants of the gstreamer packages from ever repository (ubuntu, multiverse, universe, medibuntu, etc.) and still no dice. can someone tell me where it is? TIA
[19:32] <khermans> bill, maybe you installed gnash by accident?
[19:32] <shaft0> nnoeonn: strange... i'll keep trying.
[19:32] <bill> im not fine my cpu freezes i have a dell 2.6ghz 512 ram
[19:32] <Pici> khermans, neverblue, can I deal with this alone with him?
[19:32] <khermans> bill, you need to install 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[19:32] <bill> how?
[19:32] <neverblue> Pici, im done already
[19:33] <Boris> luca : im here
[19:33] <nnoeonn> shaft0, yeah :P that's how i manage to get mine to work xD
[19:33] <neverblue> anyone know how to get ejabberd running in Ubuntu, I am having issues after the install, to get to the admin page ?
[19:33] <rodolfo> bill: flash is a nonfree plugin. check this site out or more info including how to install it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:33] <bill> khermans how please tell me ?
[19:33] <Pici> bill: Is this a new install of Ubuntu?
[19:33] <bill> yes
[19:33] <Pici> rodolfo: That will not help.
[19:33] <khermans> bill, listen topici
[19:33] <bill> i have had it for 3 weeks
[19:33] <Boris> luca : did you follow the guide ? Did everything go well ?
[19:33] <viver>  Jak w ubuntu zmienić rozdzielczość ekranu skoro System->Preferencje->rozdzielczość nie daje żadnego efektu ?
[19:33] <luca> no
[19:34] <Pici> bill: Okay, there is currently an issue with the flash plugin. Please read this page, specifically the instructions in blue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[19:34] <sverige> how do i switch to a session?
[19:34] <viver> i dont't speak english ;)
[19:34] <luca> it doesn't work
[19:34] <khermans> sverige, switch users?
[19:34] <sanchit> can anybody tell me how to boot ubuntu from external hard disk without using a crappy bootable cd everytime my bios supports usb booting but grub installed on external disk gets stuck at error 17
[19:34] <luca> i had the conf file like the one in the guide so i hadn't anything to change
[19:34] <sverige> i am using nx client and set up a running session how do i go to that session when i go home to my machine?
[19:34] <khermans> sanchit, put USB booting after internal drives in BIOS
[19:34] <Pici> viver: what language?
[19:34] <tbuss> I'm trying to sudo htpasswd -c /home/secure/apasswords test but i get an error: htpasswd: cannot create file /home/secure/apasswords
[19:34] <viver> polish
[19:35] <nnoeonn> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)"
[19:35] <khermans> tbuss, you might not have write permissions
[19:35] <krabador> someone can help me for a n audio  problem in gutsy?
[19:35] <khermans> !soundissues | krabador
[19:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundissues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:35] <Enselic> I am going to run a Ventrilo server, but I feel insecure because it is closed source. What are good security measures to take? Is running the server as a non-privileges user in a chrooted environment good enough?
[19:35] <sverige> nx client log you in a new session i want be able to get to that session when i go home to my machine
[19:35] <khermans> !sound | krabador
[19:35] <ubotu> krabador: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:35] <usuario_> I trying to run a program, but I need to change the version of a shared lib it is using. How can i do it? (I can't uninstall the older one)
[19:36] <krabador> !soundissues |
[19:36] <Boris> luca : did you do "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl " like it said
[19:36] <krabador> ù!soundissues
[19:36] <krabador> !soundissues
[19:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundissues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:36] <Enselic> usuario_: use LD_CONFIG_PATH
[19:36] <sanchit> khermans : i hav ubuntu installed on external hard drive but it does not boot from it i always hav to use bootable cd
[19:36] <tbuss> khermans, it is my home dir, should'nt I already have write perms
[19:36] <nnoeonn>  why do i get this message when i type " glxinfo | grep rendering" in terminal; glxinfo | grep rendering Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[19:36] <nnoeonn> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[19:36] <khermans> sanchit, can you try to reinstall grub on that device?
[19:36] <Enselic> usuario_: export LD_CONFIG_PATH=/path/to/lib/you/wanna/use/lib
[19:36] <usuario_> Enselic: ok, i'll try
[19:37] <Pici> !pl | viver
[19:37] <ubotu> viver: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:37] <Enselic> usuario_: then when you run the dynamic linker will first look in that path for .so, then in the normal places
[19:37] <sanchit> khermans : i did and it's installed on mbr of external hard disk
[19:37] <nnoeonn> Please, someone help me :S
[19:37] <Pici> bill: Let me know if you have any issues, be sure to prefix your message with my name so it alerts me though :)
[19:37] <khermans> sanchit, then i believe i tshould boot
[19:37] <sverige> i can start something on a nx client and want to go to that session when i go home how can i do that?
[19:37] <PriitM> Hi! I'm looking for a tool, which would display cpu, ram, hdd usage and temperatures on desktop. gDesklets isn't good enough, because its indicators can be minimized
[19:38] <viver> ubotu: na #ubuntu-pl nikogo nie ma -- #ubuntu-pl is empty now
[19:38] <luca> i didn't read that...where is it
[19:38] <Zaehlas> Hello.  Anyone willing to try and help with a scanner permissions issue?   I can get the scanner to work under root only.  udev doesn't make a usb scanner device, and the entry I put in the udev config files doesn't seem to work.  No one over in the SANE channel is online at the moment.
[19:38] <Pici> viver: ubotu is a bot, not human.
[19:38] <khermans> PriitM, try adding panels to your gnome panels
[19:38] <luca> it updated mine
[19:38] <luca> and now?
[19:38] <sanchit> khermans : it says can't mount selected partition and displays error 17
[19:38] <viver> Pici: heh, ok thanks
[19:39] <khermans> Zaehlas, as a hack, if your udev config is failing, you can put something in /etc/rc.local to chmod 777 the device
[19:39] <Boris> luca : what ?
[19:39] <usuario_> Enselic: i tried, it still using the old one
[19:39] <khermans> sanchit, try reinstalling grub again
[19:39] <Enselic> usuario_: what program are you running?
[19:39] <boguh> hi, how can i add an signature to a mail that contains a picture?
[19:39] <^root^> Firefox doesnt stream MegaVideos, what to do?
[19:39] <Boris> luca : open the terminal and type in "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager"
[19:39] <linduxed> why does my anjuta have compile but not build??
[19:39] <fantum13> hello, would anyone know how to get an AR5007EG working with amd64 7.10 with ndiswrapper?
[19:39] <khermans> !grub | sanchit
[19:39] <ubotu> sanchit: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:40] <usuario_> Enselic: a program that I wrote
[19:40] <Zaehlas> khermans: I'd like to try that, but of all the /dev/usb stuff edev creates when it's plugged in, I have NO IDEA which one is really "the scanner".  should I change the perms of all of em and hope it works?
[19:40] <Boris> luca : after it's finished, type "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"
[19:40] <Enselic> usuario_: what library is it linking to, and what library do you _want_ it to link to?
[19:40] <khermans> Zaehlas, correct thing to do is fix udev so that when it is inserted it works
[19:40] <usuario_> Enselic: the main problem is that it worked in one pc, the problem is occuring in another pc
[19:40] <usuario_> Enselic: directfb
[19:40] <sanchit> khermans : ok i will read it and give it a try thnks
[19:41] <khermans> sanchaz, np
[19:41] <fantum13> Would anyone be able to help me troubleshooting my ndiswrapper setup for an AR5007EG?
[19:41] <Enselic> usuario_: exactly what error message do you get when you try to run yourprogram?
[19:41] <boguh> is there a thunderbird irc channel somewhere?
[19:41] <usuario_> Enselic: I need to change from libdirectfb-0.9.so.0 to libdirectfb-1.0.so.0
[19:41] <luca> boris restricted were installed
[19:41] <dury> anyone runs phpmyadmin in this channel
[19:41] <Zaehlas> khermans: Any idea how to do that?  I put an appropiate line in the config file, with the device vendor / product, and the permissions for group scanner after it, and it didn't work.  Is there a way to force test a udev config file?
[19:41] <Enselic> boguh: @ irc.mozilla.org
[19:41] <khermans> boguh, on mozilla.org
[19:41] <luca> xservergl has been updated
[19:42] <luca> and now?
[19:42] <usuario_> Enselic: directfb shows the version is being used. It shows 0.9.25
[19:42] <Boris> luca : xserver-xgl is installed ?
[19:42] <shaft0> hmm, I reinstalled GRUB and it still freezes at GRUB _ (and the underscore blinks, but wont progress to a menu)
[19:42] <luca> yes
[19:42] <Boris> luca : now do "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz compiz-core compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-gnome compiz-plugins libcompizconfig-backend-gconf libcompizconfig0"
[19:42] <PointyThingsHurt> Can anyone recomend a good USB bluetooth dongle?
[19:43] <khermans> Zaehlas, set udev.conf to debug first
[19:43] <PointyThingsHurt> I'm looking at the list of what works, but figured I'd ask if anyone had any good personal experiences with any
[19:43] <wonKix> PointyThingsHurt said dongle
[19:43] <Enselic> usuario_: oh ok, so you want the program itself to link against another version?
[19:43] <PointyThingsHurt> lol i said dongle
[19:43] <crdlb> Boris: that's quite excessive, 'compiz compizconfig-settings-manager' will pull that all in
[19:43] <usuario_> Enselic: yes
[19:43] <khermans> Zaehlas, ten start playing around with rules.d
[19:43] <Boris> crdlb : well, ok, but it's what the guide says
[19:43] <PointyThingsHurt> dongle is a funny word.
[19:43] <Enselic> usuario_: that's a different matter. the Right way would be to recompile the program
[19:43] <crdlb> Boris: "the guide"?
[19:43] <Zaehlas> khermans: Ok, that helps.  Let me work on that.  Will be AFK, of course.  Thanks!  =D
[19:43]  * dongle gets weird
[19:43] <usuario_> Enselic: I recompiled it against the right one
[19:44] <khermans> Zaehlas, np
[19:44] <Enselic> usuario_: obviously not
[19:44] <usuario_> Enselic: the problem is in the run time
[19:44] <adamonline45> Is there a way to switch users while I'm in the terminal, without logging out or starting a new XFCE session?
[19:44] <Boris> crdlb : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[19:44] <luca> done
[19:44] <Enselic> usuario_: does   ldd your_program   give you the expected output?
[19:44] <khermans> adamonline45, check the gnome code
[19:44] <Boris> luca : now, just as it says : reboot, and log in, 3d effects should work
[19:44] <PointyThingsHurt> My last Bluetooth USB DONGLE seems to have broken, so i need a replacement
[19:44] <khermans> adamonline45, i mean xfce
[19:45] <Boris> luca : if you get errors, come back here
[19:45] <crdlb> Boris: random forum posts don't count as "the guide" ;)
[19:45] <usuario_> Enselic: no, it shows the old version. thats the problem, in one pc i recompiled it and it worked fine
[19:45] <crdlb> (it's wrong)
[19:45] <adamonline45> khermans: You mean, the source code?
[19:45] <khermans> adamonline45, oh you mean just in the terminal ?  su myuser
[19:45] <luca> if i launch compiz replace it says
[19:45] <Boris> crdlb : forum guide
[19:45] <usuario_> Enselic: in this pc now it doenst change the version
[19:45] <khermans> adamonline45, if you just mean in the terminal, use su
[19:45] <luca> luca@luca-laptop:~$ compiz --replace
[19:45] <luca> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[19:45] <luca> No whitelisted driver found
[19:45] <luca> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[19:45] <adamonline45> khermans: oh thank you :)
[19:45] <Enselic> usuario_: are you sure you have the recompiled version on the other computer?
[19:45] <Boris> luca : did you reboot ?????
[19:45] <luca> is it normal?
[19:45] <dave___> ok google is confusing me on this subject
[19:45] <luca> no
[19:45] <khermans> adamonline45, np
[19:45] <usuario_> Enselic: at least 10 times
[19:45] <Boris> luca : well, you have to
[19:45] <Boris> luca : lol
[19:45] <agroth> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows any good page with a tutorial on how to use the "screen" command?
[19:46] <luca> ok
[19:46] <dave___> i have a HP dvd writer 300c that i cannot get working
[19:46] <khermans> agroth, man screen ?
[19:46] <Enselic> usuario_: what OS:es do the two computers run?
[19:46] <chazco> Hi... is there any way to install the dependencys for a package, but not the package itself?
[19:46] <khermans> agroth, screen myprog
[19:46] <dave___> now im realizing there are different types of blank dvds i had no idea about
[19:46] <dave___> dvd+ and dvd-
[19:46] <matholum> hp dvd writer.... i have the same problem actually
[19:46] <khermans> agroth, CTRL-A, D
[19:46] <agroth> khermans: aye, Im completely new to linux so Im not sure I completely understood it
[19:46] <usuario_> Enselic: both are running ubuntu 7.10
[19:46] <v3ctor> agroth: http://khaoohs.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/howto-screen-command-quickstart/
[19:46] <khermans> agroth, screen -ls
[19:46] <khermans> Agrajag, screen -r
[19:46] <dave___> i got dvd-r 's
[19:46] <Enselic> usuario_: pastebin ldd of both programs please
[19:46] <dave___> it isnt recognizing them
[19:47] <matholum> mine has a video input that i can't get working
[19:47] <gidna> Hi
[19:47] <gentoo> does anyone know where I can find a list with kernel patches that ubuntu uses?
[19:47] <matholum> (sorry for just jumping in... hello everyone)
[19:47] <dave___> is it possible to make it recognize or am i just stuck with these blank discs now
[19:47] <khermans> agroth, gentoo has the best docs on the planet
[19:47] <khermans> agroth, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
[19:47] <Sylphid|work> hello im having problems with my RTL8187 USB wireless adapter connecting to WPA secured networks
[19:47] <dave___> or do i have some other problem all together
[19:47] <gidna> I've installed gnash but it doesn't play some videos..
[19:47] <agroth> khermans: thank you very much, Iĺl have a look :)
[19:47] <Enselic> gentoo: apt-get the source and you should have it there afaik
[19:47] <khermans> agroth, np
[19:47] <n3tw0rker_> hi
[19:48] <khermans> gentoo, packages.ubuntu.com -- kernel, see the non .orig file
[19:48] <khermans> gidna, tis is known issue
[19:48] <gentoo> Enselic as my name probably indicates I am not in ubuntu :P the fact is i need to get my ethernet controller to work and was hoping to find the kernel patch that made it work when I was using ubuntu
[19:48] <gidna> why?
[19:48] <khermans> !hi | n3tw0rker
[19:48] <ubotu> n3tw0rker: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:48] <agroth> v3ctor: thanks I'll have a look there as well :)
[19:48] <gentoo> khermans 10x
[19:48] <usuario_> Enselic:  libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 => /usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 (0xb7b0a000)
[19:48] <Enselic> gentoo: ah :) I should've guessed that
[19:49] <k1Ng> hello
[19:49] <gidna> I've installed gnash but it doesn't play some videos..
[19:49] <k1Ng> how to detect what mothboard i am running?
[19:49] <nickrud> gidna, it's a work in progress, doesn't claim to play everything
[19:49] <Enselic> usuario_: is that the ldd output of both programs?
[19:49] <khermans> gentoo, in debian/patches directory
[19:49] <matholum> does anyone know how to remove old, uninstalled programs out of the wine programs list?
[19:50] <dave___> my head is going to explode
[19:50] <khermans> matholum, uninstaller ?
[19:50] <gidna> with ubuntu 6 I hadn't this problem
[19:50] <usuario_> Enselic: libdirect-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libdirect-1.0.so.0 (0xb7a7b000)
[19:50] <khermans> dave___, ???
[19:50] <ethan961> @gidna: i couldnt live with youtube not playing correctly so I use adobe flash, but still chech on gnash to see its progress som etimes
[19:50] <matholum> well... it is removed but it stays in the applications> wine section
[19:50] <n3tw0rker_> system-configuration-hardware information@k1Ng
[19:50] <gentoo> khermans, I can't find that directory :-/
[19:50] <gidna> youtube's videos are played correctly
[19:50] <usuario_> Enselic: the first one is the one linked with the older version
[19:51] <usuario_> Enselic: the one that doesnt work
[19:51] <Sylphid|work> hello im having problems with my RTL8187 USB wireless adapter connecting to WPA secured networks
[19:51] <Enselic> usuario_: you obviosuly are not using the same binary
[19:51] <gidna> fro example this http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/11/13/how-to-stream-video-online-for-free/ is not played
[19:51] <ompaul> gentoo, get a ubuntu live cd sudo apt-get install it and move the source from ram to a usb stick eh?
[19:51] <ethan961> are they now? hmm, i mught just dump flash then!
[19:51] <usuario_> Enselic: obviously not, they are in different pcs
[19:51] <shaft0> when i am setting up swap space in the alternate install disk, do i need to set it as bootable?
[19:52] <gentoo> ompaul I really don't have a working environment for that, I'm on a gentoo livecd
[19:52] <usuario_> Enselic: the code is the same
[19:52] <wols> shaft0: no
[19:52] <Enselic> usuario_: do you compile the program on both machines?
[19:52] <shaft0> cheers
[19:52] <khermans> gentoo, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-source-2.6.22_2.6.22-14.47.diff.gz ?
[19:52] <usuario_> Enselic: yes
[19:52] <matholum> Sylphid> i had that problem with another card... i just ran updates with the cat5 port and the updates fixed it
[19:52] <gentoo> khermans 10x
[19:52] <Enselic> usuario_: then I misunderstood you
[19:52] <luca> boris nothing changed it took a lot to log in but nothing have changed
[19:52] <Enselic> usuario_: this is still a compilation problem
[19:52] <khermans> gentoo, wat is '10x' ?
[19:52] <ompaul> gentoo, then you have the driver to run your network card and your question in #gentoo was not valid  -  you said it did not work
[19:53] <luca> no 3d effect
[19:53] <shaft0> now, as a quick question before I hit OK, on the drive that I'm wanting to do the install on, in manual partition, should I have 1 partition SWAP, 1 EXT3, and that's it?  Or, should I have 3 partitions, SWAP, EXT3, and then /boot?
[19:53] <gentoo> it means thanks
[19:53] <agroth> khermans: ah, screen was quite simple when you got it explained as an example hehe :)
[19:53] <gentoo> its just shorter
[19:53] <Enselic> usuario_: how do you link against your custom libs?
[19:53] <khermans> gentoo, np -- just download the full debian package and see the patches dir
[19:53] <Enselic> usuario_: i.e. what commands / tools do you use
[19:53] <ethan961> @shaft0: all three
[19:53] <nickrud> shaft0, I'd have a /home rather than /boot myself
[19:53] <khermans> agroth, np dude
[19:53] <gentoo> ompaul, I really don't understand the question
[19:53] <agroth> :)
[19:53] <usuario_> Enselic: Im using autotools to build the program
[19:54] <luca> borys are u still there
[19:54] <jaggy> is there a linux alternativ for putting music on your ipod ?
[19:54] <luca> boris
[19:54] <usuario_> Enselic: I put a rule to use directfb >= 1.0.0 in configure.ac
[19:54] <n3tw0rker_> @jaggy:gtkpod
[19:54] <luca> jaggy
[19:54] <luca> gopod
[19:54] <Kevin`> jaggy yes, gtkpod or google linux ipod
[19:54] <jaggy> ty both :p
[19:54] <ompaul> !ipod | jaggy
[19:54] <n3tw0rker_> gtkpod works better
[19:54] <ubotu> jaggy: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[19:54] <khermans> jaggy, yes check out rockpod
[19:54] <ethan961> jaggy, yes you can use amarok or gtkpod, as well as others inc. rythembox, banshee...
[19:54] <usuario_> Enselic: I tested it only with the older version and ./configure returns an error
[19:54] <khermans> jaggy, rockbox
[19:54] <Arelis> Hi all. I prefer KDE, but i prefer Ubuntu too. But, KDE in Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) feels like it's ticked-on, and not complete. Also, the next release won't be an LTS. What can i do?
[19:54] <nickrud> jaggy, for the newer ipods, the ubuntu ones won't work because of apple changing some stuff.
[19:55] <Kevin`> how good is rockbox now?
[19:55] <Kevin`> maybe I could convince my brother to try it
[19:55] <usuario_> Enselic: So I think it's lookning for the right version
[19:55] <Enselic> usuario_: do you have the development files of the directfb library on both machines (and of the same version)
[19:55] <jaggy> ty guys for the advice
[19:55] <khermans> Kevin`, i use it all the time, love it
[19:55] <usuario_> Enselic: Yes
[19:55] <usuario_> Enselic: I have
[19:55] <newb> hey guys
[19:55] <newb> i need some serious help...
[19:55] <ethan961> nuckrud, there are some hacks you can use for ipod touch / iphone, dunno about the others...
[19:55] <khermans> !ask | newb
[19:55] <ubotu> newb: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:56] <fusion> hello
[19:56] <khermans> !hi | fusion
[19:56] <ubotu> fusion: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:56] <fusion> question
[19:56] <jcg42> Why is only the RC version Gimp in the repos?
[19:56] <nickrud> ethan961, the newer libgpod is supposed to support them, but I haven't compiled it yet
[19:56] <khermans> jcg42, you want newer?
[19:56] <khermans> jcg42, check backports
[19:56] <fusion> when i plug in my headphones i get sound in my speakers and in the headphones, how can i make it so i only hear in the headphones
[19:57] <luca> i -have an ati card and restricted video driver on ubuntu 7.10 compiz do not work is there anybody who can help me_
[19:57] <ethan961> nickrud, true
[19:57] <pierluigi_> why I can't hear any video from youtube or daylimotion but if I download it on my pc I can do it??
[19:57] <mavi-> fusion: rightklick the speaker at your taskbar and take preferences
[19:57] <nickrud> luca, install xserver-xgl and logout and back in, the fglrx in ubuntu needs the help
[19:57] <tripps> isn't apport supposed to produce a gui asking you what to do with the crash report when it's done? it's run several times on my box but never presents any interface
[19:57] <khermans> fusion, there should be a headphone detect feature in the audi oconfig
[19:57] <fusion> luca, try envy
[19:57] <shaft0> pierluigi: stupid question but, do you have the youtube video turned up?
[19:57] <newb> ok, so i wanted to get rid of ubuntu...so i used partition magic to format the ubuntu partition and merge it with the windows partition to reclaim the space taken up by ubuntu. But now when i boot i get grub error 17 and nothing boots.
[19:57] <Boris> luca : you installed XGl and it still doesnt work ?
[19:57] <nickrud> !envy
[19:57] <pierluigi_> yes
[19:57] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:58] <fusion> newb, boot from xp cd
[19:58] <fusion> and go into repair
[19:58] <jcg42> khermans, Ubuntu only has GIMP 2.4.0-rc3, but GIMP 2.4.3 is out and it is a bug fix so it should be included.
[19:58] <fusion> then type fixboot
[19:58] <fusion> and fixmbr
[19:58] <newb> fixboot
[19:58] <pierluigi_> shaft0: yes of course
[19:58] <Boris> luca : tell me output of fglrxinfo and compiz --replace
[19:58] <newb> ok
[19:58] <fusion> fixboot,fixmbr
[19:58] <khermans> !backports | jcg42
[19:58] <ubotu> jcg42: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[19:58] <luca> it doeswn-t work
[19:58] <luca> ok
[19:59] <newb> and after that i can delete the ubuntu partition and resize the windows partition to the size i want?
[19:59] <fusion> yes
[19:59] <nickrud> !pastebin | luca
[19:59] <ubotu> luca: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:59] <fusion> it will delete grub
[19:59] <fusion> and reinstall xp mbr
[19:59] <luca> Checking for Xgl: present.
[19:59] <luca> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[19:59] <luca> Checking for Xgl: present.
[19:59] <luca> Enabling Xgl with fglrx ATi drivers...
[19:59] <luca> Starting gtk-window-decorator
[19:59] <luca> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[19:59] <newb> ok
[19:59] <newb> i will try that
[19:59] <khermans> !gparted | newb
[19:59] <ubotu> newb: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[20:00] <Boris> luca : join #compiz-fusion
[20:00] <Enselic> usuario_: you are aware of that one links against libdirect, and the other against libdirectfb right?
[20:00] <Boris> luca : and tell them about your problem
[20:00] <fusion> gparted is nice
[20:01] <Boris> luca : fglrxinfo ?
[20:01] <ompaul> !paste | luca
[20:01] <ubotu> luca: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:01] <Boris> luca : you can tell me only "version" line
[20:01] <n3tw0rker_> hey guys,my comp is "hanging up"  if I push the shutdown button.whats the problem?
[20:01] <jcg42> khermans, I know about backports, but that's only for completely new versions. Ubuntu stills updates for bugfixes. Gutsy shipped with Firefox 2.0.0.6, but it updated to 2.0.0.11.
[20:01] <crdlb> luca: compiz is definitely running, what makes you think it isn't?
[20:01] <Zaehlas> khermans: (or anyone else) OK, I have traced down that the permissions of the line I added in udev 45-libsane.rules is working.  It puts the device under /dev/bus/usb then the numbers it finds, which of course change each time the scanner is either plugged in, or system is rebooted.  But it doesn't create a name for the scanner device itself.  It creates like 20-some names for everything else about it (it's a usb all-in-one, so has hubs, 
[20:01] <khermans> jcg42, well try -proposed or updates
[20:01] <luca>  2.0.6473 (8.37.6
[20:02] <Boris> ok
[20:02] <usuario_> Enselic: I posted it wrong
[20:02] <Pici> jcg42: Ubuntu updates for security fixes, not necessarily bugfixes.
[20:02] <luca> no 3d effetc
[20:02] <fusion> also bugfixes
[20:02] <Boris> luca : from now on, it should be compiz's problem
[20:02] <Enselic> usuario_: repost please
[20:02] <Boris> luca : #compiz-fusion
[20:02] <fusion> try beryl, its more stable
[20:02] <nickrud> rflol
[20:02] <luca> ideas on what to do_
[20:02] <Boris> luca : open up ccsm
[20:02] <ethan961> beryl is quite depricated though
[20:02] <luca> _
[20:02] <Boris> luca : type 'ccsm' in terminal
[20:02] <matholum> what do you guys use for video editing? i tried Lives but it is wierd.... i used premiere in windows, is there anything like that... it isn't in the wine ap db but maybe i could try that...
[20:02] <nickrud> luca, as advised /j #compiz-fusion , they will help you set it up
[20:03] <khermans> fusion, havent they merged dude?
[20:03] <jolle> hey folks, what is the best application for ubuntu to install games in .iso etc formats?
[20:03] <mavi-> yea, they merged back in april
[20:03] <Boris> crdlb, any idea ?
[20:03] <luca> opened
[20:03] <khermans> matholum, kino
[20:03] <mavi-> jolle: use mount
[20:03] <fusion> cedega
[20:03] <n3tw0rker_> hey guys,my comp is "hanging up"  if I push the shutdown button.whats the problem?
[20:03] <k9000> hi folks, before unplugging usb devices from my pc i right click its icon, and umount it. However i realized that my cellphone says that i'm able to unplug from usb only after a "eject" terminal command. What is the right way to do it?
[20:03] <fusion> @ jolle
[20:03] <usuario_> Enselic: I posted it wrong! Both uses libdirect and libdirectfb
[20:03] <Malin> anybody knows if Rhythmbox can handle .asx stream?
[20:03] <fusion> cedega
[20:03] <Pici> !who
[20:03] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:03] <Boris> luca :enable few effects, like cube, and use the shortcut
[20:04] <matholum> khermans> i'll look that up real qwik
[20:04] <jolle> fusion: where can i get it?
[20:04] <fusion> it costs
[20:04] <Boris> luca : for cube, ctrl alt + move mouse
[20:04] <crdlb> Boris: afaict it's working perfectly
[20:04] <n3tw0rker_> @all:my comp is "hanging up"  if I push the shutdown button.whats the problem?
[20:04] <Enselic> usuario_: sorry but I don't trust your typing :) pastebin it please
[20:04] <fusion> free alternative is wine
[20:04] <fusion> use wine
[20:04] <Enselic> usuario_: the full output
[20:04] <jolle> fusion: is there any else program?
[20:04] <fusion> sudo apt-get install wine
[20:04] <fusion> use that
[20:04] <fw1987> ciaociao
[20:04] <fusion> then type wine gamehere.exe
[20:04] <Boris> crdlb, please tell him how to set up compiz fusion, i got dinner
[20:05] <newb> does anyone know where i can get a windows boot disk? like a recovery console? i've heard you can make a windows 98 boot disk.
[20:05] <nickrud> !enter | fusion
[20:05] <ubotu> fusion: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:05] <fusion> why do you need one
[20:05] <mkz> question: is the date/time the OS was installed to a machine stored anywhere?
[20:05] <jolle> fusion: but mavi said "use mount", what about that?
[20:05] <mEck0> Hi! Does someone know if it's possible to sync a windows-based smartphone with evolution easy? I have a palm pda today and it was very easy to get it work in linux. Is it so with windows-based smartphones too?
[20:05] <crdlb> luca: press Windows key + E
[20:05] <usuario_> Enselic: Sorry
[20:05] <matholum> (i use gmountiso to mount iso files)
[20:05] <fusion> to mount, type mount file.iso
[20:05] <fusion> then located
[20:05] <fusion> location*
[20:05] <Onyx> damn... how can i tell what sound module i'm currently using?
[20:06] <khermans> mEck0, synce
[20:06] <fusion> lspi
[20:06] <jolle> fusion: ok, cheers
[20:06] <luca> boris is windows key pus e
[20:06] <matholum> i wish there were a right click mount option
[20:06] <n3tw0rker_> why can't help me anybody
[20:06] <fusion> what do you need
[20:06] <crdlb> luca: did that do anything?
[20:06] <AdemoS> Hi. whenever I try to install ANY package with Synaptic I keep getting this error message "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ark_4%3a3.5.8-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: files list file for package `iptables' contains empty filename"
[20:06] <khermans> n3tw0rker, ?
[20:07] <Enselic> n3tw0rker: what does your shut down button do?
[20:07] <newb> can i use a windows 98 boot disk to access the recovery console?
[20:07] <Enselic> n3tw0rker: turn off computer, hibernate or what does it do?
[20:07] <AdemoS> What does iptables have to do with package install? And what needs to be fixed?
[20:07] <fusion> use xp disc
[20:07] <khermans> n3tw0rker, shut down using the buttons on your desktop
[20:07] <luca> it appares a windows reduced
[20:07] <crdlb> luca: that's a compiz effect
[20:07] <amikrop> I have an executable file (which runs like ./foo in terminal). How can I make it to run by double clicking on it?
[20:08] <Boris> crdlb and luca : im back
[20:08] <fusion> right click the desktop and select make new launcher
[20:08] <nickrud> AdemoS, that's saying there's something wrong with /var/lib/dpkg/info/iptables.list file ; what the fix is is another thing ....
[20:08] <fusion> then type that  in there, with application in termianl
[20:08] <Boris> luca : it's called "Expo"
[20:08] <usuario_> Enselic: Sorry, but what do you mean by "pastebin"?
[20:08] <Boris> luca : for workspace switching
[20:08] <luca> boris i had to click on windows key and e
[20:08] <Pici> !paste | usuario_
[20:08] <ubotu> usuario_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:08] <Enselic> !paste > usuario_
[20:08] <Boris> luca : yes
[20:08] <amikrop> fusion: Alright. Thank you.
[20:08] <AdemoS> nickrud: Hmm, I did make a change recently for Kad on Amule, but without that fix Kad is firewalled...
[20:08] <luca> listenand what was that message error
[20:08] <Boris> luca : key combinations activate effects
[20:09] <fusion> super + e does expo
[20:09] <mEck0> khermans, ah, thx a lot! Because I'm thinking of maybe sell my Sony Ericsson W810i and my Palm Tungsten E2, and buying a smartphone. Haven't decided yet though. It seems more practical to have a smartphone than a dedicated cellphone and pda.
[20:09] <luca>  Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[20:09] <crdlb> luca: that's normal
[20:09] <crdlb> everyone gets that
[20:09] <luca> ok
[20:09] <ethan961> amikrop, right ckick the file, make it executable, then when u double click it it will ask you if you want to view it or run it
[20:09] <mkz> let me try again: is the install date/time stored anywhere?
[20:09] <fusion> lol
[20:09] <khermans> mEck0, np
[20:09] <khermans> mEck0, get a crackberry or wait for android
[20:09] <luca> and why i have no 3d on the bar etx
[20:09] <Boris> luca : crdlb says that its just warning you
[20:09] <luca> icons ect
[20:09] <Boris> luca : on what bar ?
[20:09] <nickrud> AdemoS, dpkg is saying it is confused, and won't do anything to your packages until it's fixed. Unlikely doing something to your firewall would make any difference
[20:09] <fusion> you mean wobbly windows?
[20:10] <k9000> hi folks, before unplugging usb devices from my pc i right click its icon, and umount it. However i realized that my cellphone says that i'm able to unplug from usb only after a "eject" terminal command. What is the right way to do it?
[20:10] <Boris> luca : there arent any 3D icons in compiz
[20:10] <luca> the task bar...
[20:10] <newb> Am i screwed? Do i just need to find my windows recovery disk and boot into that and fixmbr and fixboot it?
[20:10] <mEck0> khermans, crackberry and android? have never heard of them :S
[20:10] <fusion> yes!
[20:10] <khermans> k9000, unmount then eject
[20:10] <Boris> luca : what did you expect it to be like ?
[20:10] <fusion> xp installation or 98 disk
[20:10] <khermans> mEck0, i was referring to a Blackberry
[20:10] <Smigma> unmounting is the same as "ejecting"
[20:10] <khermans> mEck0, Android is google's new Linux cell phone platform
[20:11] <mEck0> khermans, okay, yeah blackberry have I heard about.
[20:11] <newb> ok, i will try that. wish me luck. linux for human beings...ha.
[20:11] <khermans> Smigma, no
[20:11] <AdemoS> nickrud, sorry got d/ced
[20:11] <khermans> mEck0, umount still leaves the device
[20:11] <fusion> better than any other distros
[20:11] <Boris> luca : http://kldp.org/files/avn.jpg
[20:11] <Boris> luca : check the bottom of desktop
[20:11] <Boris> luca : is that what you wanted your taskbar to be like ?
[20:11] <luca> because the firts time i downloaded compiz i had all in 3d...from the task bar to the icon
[20:11] <k9000> khermans: but which device i specify to eject since the cell phone folder wont be there after umount?
[20:11] <matholum> i have an interesting question... how do you 'restore' files in the trash bin? i accidentally deleted my desktop folder and now it runs out of /home/User/.trash/Desktop
 AdemoS, dpkg is saying it is confused, and won't do anything to your packages until it's fixed. Unlikely doing something to your firewall would make any difference <--- But since it mentions iptables.list which has to do with my firewall, how is it not related to that?
[20:11] <Boris> luca : im not sure what you're talking about
[20:12] <usuario_> Enselic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50756/
[20:12] <Boris> luca : did you rotate cube ?
[20:12] <fusion> luca screenshot?
[20:12] <jolle> fusion: i tried to mount it but it said (i try to translate correctly): only root can do that
[20:12] <luca> listen how do i rotate my cube
[20:12] <fusion> sudo mount file.iso
[20:12] <fusion> sorry
[20:12] <Boris> luca : press Ctrl Alt and move mouse
[20:12] <luca> how do i rotate my cube
[20:12] <khermans> luca, ctrl-alt moutse drag
[20:12] <nickrud> AdemoS, changing the firewall should not have altered that file; what exactly did you do?
[20:12] <matholum> khermans>kino looks way better than Lives, thanks ^_^
[20:12] <jolle> fusion: that doesn't work
[20:12] <crdlb> luca: you need to enable the cube in ccsm first
[20:12] <khermans> matholum, np
[20:13] <crdlb> luca: ubuntu defaults to wall
[20:13] <tripps> i am trying to find for the life of me the supposed rhytmbox equalizer plugin that comes with gstreamer-plugins-bad package, etc., that is discussed ad nauseum on the forums, but for the life of my i cannot find it. i've installed the -bad, -ugly and all othe variants of the gstreamer packages from ever repository (ubuntu, multiverse, universe, medibuntu, etc.) and still no dice. can someone tell me where it is? TIA
[20:13] <ToddEDM> hey, i was just wondering where Evolution stores Email?
[20:13] <AdemoS> nickrud: What I did was, followed a guide to un-firewall my ports to Kad
[20:13] <luca> if i press ctrl + alt + mouse no cube appear
[20:13] <fusion> in the home folder
[20:13] <fusion> .evolution
[20:13] <khermans> ToddEDM, ~/
[20:13] <ToddEDM> where abouts in the home folder
[20:13] <AdemoS> nickrud, in that guide, they mentioned adding some lines to iptables.list
[20:13] <tripps> s/rhytmbox/rhythmbox
[20:13] <ToddEDM> ok
[20:13] <fusion> press view, show hidden folders
[20:13] <mEck0> khermans, the question is if a smartphone (one of the smaller models) aren't to large to carry around everywhere? I mean like when you went to a disco, it's not so important to have your pda with you, but if you have a smartphone you must carry a larger device with you. or do you think there are some disadvantages with a smartphone comparing to a cellphone+pda?
[20:13] <Boris> luca : read what crdlb said
[20:13] <fusion> then .evolution
[20:13] <LamerMan> hi everyone. Where can i find the "core dump" after program crash?
[20:14] <AdemoS> nickrud, this guide: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall#IPTables_Configuration
[20:14] <nickrud> mkz, the file /var/log/installer/syslog has the first boot, the dates there should be right
[20:14] <Boris> luca : you need to enable cube in ccsm first
[20:14] <luca> i enabled cub
[20:14] <luca> cube
[20:14] <Boris> luca : try again
[20:14] <luca> nothing
[20:14] <Boris> luca : is compiz running ?
[20:14] <luca> when i enabled cube wal was disabled
[20:15] <AdemoS> nickrud, I do have Firestarter installed also, for a firewall, but I don't think that software is affecting this
[20:15] <mkz> nickrud: thanks, I will look into that
[20:15] <luca> i hope so
[20:15] <crdlb> luca: you need to enable Rotate Cube too
[20:15] <luca> how i understand that_
[20:15] <Boris> luca : did you run it from the terminal ?
[20:15] <luca> i checked it
[20:15] <nickrud> AdemoS, I don't see in that howto where it says to edit the file I mentioned
[20:15] <luca> i run from the termina;l ccsm
[20:15] <Boris> crdlb, do you know anything like CF for windoze ?
[20:15] <isaac__> Hey. How can I set an environmental variable? Apparently I need to export it or something
[20:15] <Boris> luca : what about compiz --replace ?
[20:16] <PurpZeY> luca: if you ran it from a terminal and closed the terminal it will not continue to run
[20:16] <nickrud> AdemoS, anyway, put the contents of that file on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org I'll compare to mine
[20:16] <AdemoS> Okay
[20:16] <Boris> luca : press Alt + F2 and type compiz --replace
[20:16] <luca> sistem crashed
[20:16] <uchazco> Can anyone tell me the command to install the restricted nvidia driver from a script?
[20:16] <luca> a moment i reboot
[20:16] <jeska> hey IRC channel, with the update to Gusty I love VMWare Player and apparently do not have the correct dependencies. Is there an updated recommended sources.list out there to remedy this situation, or should I just download the .tar from VMWare's site and install that way?
[20:16] <nickrud> isaac_, in what context, it would matter how/where you export it
[20:17] <PurpZeY> uchazco: We don't script it....It's guied
[20:17] <Boris> uchazco : do you have .run file ?
[20:17] <jeska> um, I meant with Gusty I lost
[20:17] <jeska> VMWare
[20:17] <AdemoS> nickrud, I skipped a line between the begining and ending of my changes (as a reference for myself) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50757/
[20:17] <isaac__> nickrud, it's for a app called "mpc" which controls mpd, a music playing daemon. The variable is called MPD_HOST
[20:17] <nickrud> jeska, deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
[20:17] <Boris> jeska : it's known problem
[20:17] <uchazco> PurpZeY - Boris - I have a custom "restore" script I run after a fresh install, it sets everything up. Would like to do Nvidia drivers too...
[20:17] <jeska> ah, thanks
[20:18] <matholum> khermans>question about kino, how do you import vid files?
[20:18] <racarter> what is the proper way to install the latest flash player on ubuntu?
[20:18] <nickrud> AdemoS, lol, remove those changes, I'll show you where to put them
[20:18] <uchazco> !nvidia
[20:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:18] <AdemoS> nickrud, oooh, alright, just delete them?
[20:18] <khermans> matholum, open/import ?
[20:18] <isaac__> nickrud: "By default, mpc connects to localhost:6600. This can be changed either at compile-time, or by exporting the MPD_HOST and MPD_PORT environment variables."
[20:18] <racarter> i did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree which doesn't seem t work
[20:18] <AdemoS> nickrud, or cut them out?
[20:18] <khermans> matholum, you need to work with RAW files
[20:18] <Boris> uchazco, if you want to start a script type "sh scriptname.run
[20:18] <matholum> khermans> so avi files won't work?
[20:18] <nickrud> AdemoS, after you remove those lines , run    sudo apt-get -f install   Definitely remove them, they are the problem
[20:18] <Boris> "sh scriptname.run"
[20:19] <uchazco> Boris - I can run my script, i need the command which installs nvidia
[20:19] <luca> boris
[20:19] <PurpZeY> racarter: Flash is not working right now, it's a known issue on adobes end
[20:19] <AdemoS> nickrud, aha, thanks a lot, will do
[20:19] <Boris> uchazco, oh
[20:19] <Boris> luca ye
[20:19] <luca> compiz replace
[20:19] <Boris> luca : compit --replace
[20:19] <Boris> oh no
[20:19] <PurpZeY> luca: compiz --replace
[20:19] <Boris> luca : it's "compiz --replace"
[20:19] <Chukchi> I recently installed Ubuntu on my sisters computer.  It's worked so far but I can't connect to the internet with it using a wireless adaptor (Netgear WG111V2.
[20:19] <luca> done
[20:20] <isaac__> nickrud, what say you?
[20:20] <nickrud> isaac_, a sec then
[20:20] <isaac__> Ah thanks
[20:20] <Boris> luca : fancy 3d effects ?
[20:20] <isaac__> :)
[20:20] <luca> everything ok
[20:20] <Boris> luca : so start cubre
[20:20] <PurpZeY> Chukchi: Let me see if I can't find any docs on that ok?
[20:20] <Boris> cube*
[20:20] <luca> sayng warning 8 pixmap
[20:20] <matholum> khermans> so if i were to import an avi file, i'd have to convert it to a raw file first?
[20:20] <khermans> !ndiswrapper | Chukchi
[20:20] <ubotu> Chukchi: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:20] <okeefenokee> Hiya. I installed gusty from an internal DVD-station which I then removed. Now I use an external, which obviously has been assigned the dev-file /dev/dvd1 (or /dev/dvdrw1). For various reasons I'd like to name it /dev/dvd, but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions out there?
[20:20] <Boris> luca : _DO NOT_ run it from terminal
[20:20] <AdemoS> nickrud, okay, done
[20:20] <Boris> luca : close the terminal
[20:20] <Boris> NOW
[20:20] <luca> if i press alt +ctrl +mouse nothing happens
[20:20] <nickrud> isaac_, I'd look in /etc/defaults/mpd , there's probably a reference to them there. I'd put them there if they didn't exist yet
[20:20] <Boris> luca : it doesnt matter
[20:21] <Boris> do as i said
[20:21] <PurpZeY> Chukchi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993&highlight=WG111V2
[20:21] <Administrator> hello i need some help!
[20:21] <khermans> matholum, kino does it automatically for you - but be prepared to wait a while
[20:21] <jolle> guys help me out to install a game in .iso format :/
[20:21] <luca> listen i use xchat and i cant resize what can i do now all icons are big
[20:21] <PurpZeY> !iso
[20:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[20:21] <Boris> luca : dono
[20:21] <khermans> !help | Administrator
[20:21] <ubotu> Administrator: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:21] <matholum> khermans> when i tried it told me it was an invalid file
[20:21] <Boris> luca : close the teminal and compiz will turn off
[20:21] <khermans> matholum, what file type is this?
[20:22] <matholum> avi
[20:22] <function1> why dont i have an asound.conf?
[20:22] <Administrator> when i run ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 up i get SIOSCIFFLAGS: Timer expired!
[20:22] <isaac__> nickrud: Really, I need to do this on-the-fly, as I need to connect to both the local mpd server and a remote one
[20:22] <khermans> matholum, it should import it ... but if not, you can convert with ffmpeg or mencoder
[20:22] <nickrud> AdemoS, I'd put them in /a new file in /etc/network/if-up.d/ that way they would be applied each time the network came up. This is assuming you're using /etc/network/interfaces to bring up the network
[20:23] <Malin> anybody knows if Rhythmbox can handle .asx stream?
[20:23] <k9000> khermans, alright i'm ejecting the cell by the device name, but ubuntu mounts it again automatically, how can i prevent it?
[20:23] <AdemoS> nickrud, how do I know what I'm using the 'bring the network up?'
[20:23] <matholum> khermans> this makes me kinda miss premiere
[20:23] <navetz> help me fix this sound bug plz
[20:23] <navetz> when i type alsamixer in my terminal
[20:23] <navetz> i get this error
[20:24] <navetz> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[20:24] <nickrud> isaac_, are you running a script to start your connections? If so, just put  MPD_PORT="value" in the script before calling connection
[20:24] <khermans> k9000, unsure
[20:24] <Onyx> how can i tell what sound module i'm currently using?
[20:24] <nickrud> AdemoS, how are you starting your network connection?
[20:24] <ubuntu> Im having trouble after my ubuntu 7.10 install
[20:25] <AdemoS> nickrud, I use the defualt networkmonitor
[20:25] <nickrud> AdemoS, wireless for example, using the applet on the panel?
[20:25] <ethan__> !foo
[20:25] <ubotu> bar
[20:25] <AdemoS> nickrud, correct
[20:26] <ubuntu> bootloader just shows a ton of nines?
[20:26] <neeto> I am trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and after the loading bar goes away, the pointer never shows up and the screen is just blank
[20:26] <Vista>    VISTA > UBUNTU  
[20:26] <Vista>    VISTA > UBUNTU    
[20:26] <Vista>    VISTA > UBUNTU    
[20:26] <Vista>    VISTA > UBUNTU    
[20:27] <nickrud> AdemoS, that's a darn good question then. I'm not sure where you would add those to be dynamically applied during NetworkManager startup
[20:27] <J_Man> troll day :(
[20:27] <kinroad> VISTA < Ubuntu
[20:27] <khermans> Onyx, lshw
[20:27] <kinroad> exept for memory usage
[20:27] <kojiro> "and the darkness understood it not."
[20:27] <ethan961> vista=spam and Bloat(TM)
[20:27] <elbac> Is samba the best way to mount a remote fs between two linux boxes?
[20:27] <AdemoS> nickrud, do you use something else to connect? I'd be willing to switch to something else stable if it would allow me to unfirewall amule and keep my packages working
[20:27] <Pici> !windows
[20:27] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[20:28] <elbac> pici was that meant for me?
[20:28] <nickrud> AdemoS, if you put those in /etc/rc.local, they should still work. They don't appear to depend on the interface you're using, but I'm no iptables expert
[20:28] <Pici> elbac: no.
[20:28] <justin__> ok i tried everything, i read everything, i cant play any videos from files, cds, dvds, streaming from the net, nothing please help
[20:29] <matholum> neeto> you need to modify the boot options.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions make sure you look at the Permanent changes section
[20:29] <AdemoS> nickrud, I'll try it, but how do I put those there? Just throw them in a randomly named file? Any specific extensions to use?
[20:29] <Kal> Having an issue with a new Gutsy install guys - have a PC with the only network connection being a wireless USB.  Belkin, with a rt2570 chipset.
[20:29] <Chukchi> The driver disc for my Netgear WG111v2 is broken.
[20:29] <nickrud> Ademan, no, the file /etc/rclocal , add them above the exit 0
[20:30] <linduxed> aint it nice to be visited by atroll from time to time?
[20:30] <hypn0> justin__:  did you install anything
[20:30] <nickrud> Ademan, make that /etc/rc.local , forgot the dot
[20:30] <TylerJGillies> how to you change to xubuntu from ubuntu?
[20:30] <TylerJGillies> s/to/do/
[20:30] <Kal> I have downloaded the latest source for the rt2570 drivers, compiled and make installed them, but I still don't get a connection to the network :(
[20:30] <justin__> yeah i installed all the plugins and everything
[20:30] <khermans> Chukchi, check you manuf website
[20:30] <TSK> WowieWowWOW!  This is about a BUSY channel, here.  :)
[20:30] <AdemoS> nickrud, alright, try to use my name though, because Ademan doesn't alert me that you spoke
[20:30] <khermans> TylerJGillies, sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[20:30] <justin__> im not that good with linux so maybe i messed something up
[20:30] <ethan961> kal, does it need special firmware on your computer?
[20:31] <nickrud> AdemoS, sorry, I've caught it most times :)
[20:31] <Kal> Not that im aware
[20:31] <Kal> i've modprobe'd rt2570
[20:31] <AdemoS> nickrud, :P Yes, you're much more accuate then most
[20:31] <Kal> iwconfig is showing rausb0
[20:31] <TylerJGillies> khermans, thnx
[20:31] <khermans> TylerJGillies, np
[20:31] <okeefenokee> Hiya. I installed gusty from an internal DVD-station which I then removed. Now I use an external, which obviously has been assigned the dev-file /dev/dvd1 (or /dev/dvdrw1). For various reasons I'd like to name it /dev/dvd, but I'm not sure how. Any suggestions out there?
[20:31] <okeefenokee> Answer to my own question: Fiddle with the files in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[20:31] <cvasilak> anybody having success with the wireless connection on a macbook core 2 duo machine. Although the madwifi driver loads successfully dhclient cannot acquire an ip address
[20:32] <khermans> okeefenokee, you can symlink it
[20:32] <ethan961> kal, the chip is a ralink chip, right? did you get the driver from ralink's ebsite, if it is?
[20:32] <rmas> hello there
[20:32] <boivie> Does anybody know why I can't get sound out of an MPEG4 file? It is supposed to have Audio Codec    : AAC 44100Hz stereo 128Kbps. I have tried two ubuntu installations, and Totem, Xine, VLC and MPlayer. The same story everywhere, video is fine, but no audio.
[20:32] <justin__> hypn0: i suck at linux can u help me?
[20:32] <Kal> iwconfig shows rausb0 with Link Quality 0, Signal level 136, noise level 113, so I assume it's picking up the hardware
[20:32] <jeska> mkay, adding that to my sources.list gave me access to vmware server, but not player.. so I need one to have the other? it's been a while since I've been around linux/ubuntu, so I'm sorry if my questions are a little noob-ish ^^;
[20:32] <khermans> boivie, install libfaad
[20:32] <matholum> (how do you undo a symlink?)
[20:32] <okeefenokee> khermans: Yep, that too...but now it gets mapped to the "correct" /dev-file
[20:32] <okeefenokee> matholum: unlink
[20:33] <ethan961> kal, can network manager see the device?
[20:33] <TSK> I hear rumors that Ubuntu 7.10 is now able to run on PS3.  Any truth to that rumor?  I ask because a friend of mine already has Yellowdog working, but it's not really all that slick.  Ubuntu seems a bit more "polished".  :)
[20:33] <justin__> can anyone help me with playing videos??
[20:33] <hypn0> justin__: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:33] <khermans> TSK, yes
[20:33] <matholum> okeefenokee> unlink... in the terminal?
[20:33] <nickrud> jeska, oh, the player. my bad, I don't think it's in the repos, unless it's been added to backports. I don't have them enabled
[20:33] <khermans> justin__, install vlc ?
[20:33] <Kal> ethan961: System | Administration | Network is showing a Wireless connection, yes
[20:33] <ethan961> kal, also, does "iwlist scan" give a list of networks?
[20:33] <boivie> khermans: I have libfaad2-0 installed.
[20:33] <okeefenokee> okeefnokee: Yup.
[20:33] <justin__> i already installed restricted formats
[20:34] <justin__> and wats vlc???
[20:34] <okeefenokee> matholum: Yup
[20:34] <Kal> ethan961: rausb0: Interface doesn't support scanning
[20:34] <justin__> khermans: wats vlc?
[20:34] <ethan961> hmm
[20:34] <TSK> khermans: Right on.  TYVM.  I'ma download and burn my friend a copy of Ubuntu then.  :)
[20:34] <khermans> boivie, does vlc play it?
[20:34] <elbac> I assume I should use NFS when sharing files between two linux machines?
[20:34] <PurpZeY> Kal: What is the model of the device?
[20:34] <khermans> justin__, a media player
[20:34] <jeska> nickrud: it's all good. it's in my package manager, so I thought maybe I was missing a repos somewhere. Should I just download and install the .tar from their site?
[20:34] <matholum> okeefenokee> would that be the the same as what you type to link, just unlink instead of ln?
[20:34] <AdemoS> nickrud, do I keep the "/sbin/iptables" part, or just stick to the commands?
[20:34] <khermans> TSK, you need the PS3 version
[20:34] <boivie> khermans: every player plays the movie, but all are silent.
[20:34] <justin__> khermans: ill try it where do i get it
[20:35] <khermans> boivie, i dont mean to pry, but other sounds work right?
[20:35] <okeefenokee> matholum: Yes, ln -s <filename> <linkname> and unlink <linkname>
[20:35] <TSK> khermans: Aye.  I'll surely be careful to grab the right one.  It'd just be amusing to me to see Ubuntu on the PS3.  SCREAMING fast hardware.  :)
[20:35] <khermans> justin__, sudo aptitude install vlc
[20:35] <nickrud> AdemoS, include the /sbin/iptables (caught it again this time)
[20:35] <boivie> khermans: sound is fine when I play other movies.
[20:35] <ethan961> Kal: do you know if it is a Ralink chip? "rausb0" hints it might be...
[20:35] <matholum> okeefenokee> gotcha... thanks... i had a few links i couldn't figure out how to get rid of ^_^
[20:35] <AdemoS> nickrud, xD thanks, and nice work on name spelling
[20:36] <shaft0> when i try to boot, GRUB flashes on the screen, but wont boot.  There's nothing on the screen but GRUB (the word, not the menu) and a flashing _... any ideas?
[20:36] <nickrud> AdemoS, that file (rc.local) gets called last during the bootup, and runs any commands you've added there.
[20:36] <justin__> thnkx
[20:36] <Kal> PurpZeY: model number is F5D7050
[20:36] <AdemoS> nickrud, should I reboot after doing this?
[20:36] <kebinusan> quick question, if I accidentally did a sudo chown -R user . *, is there any way to set everything back tot he proper owner?
[20:36] <khermans> boivie, vlc should work
[20:36] <BlkGhost> WHere can I download some Themes
[20:36] <Kal> ethan961: afaik yes, the CD had a rt2500 windows driver on it.  And no, ndiswrapper didn't work too well either :)
[20:36] <PurpZeY> !theme | BlkGhost
[20:36] <ubotu> BlkGhost: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:37] <okeefenokee> matholum: Np, glad to be able to give something as well ;)
[20:37] <nickrud> AdemoS, shouldn't be necessary, you can just type    sudo /etc/rc.local    to run and test it
[20:37] <boivie> khermans: it might be the file that is corrupted then?
[20:37] <AdemoS> nickrud, alright thanks
[20:37] <luca> boris also with terminal closed cube do not appear and do not rotate
[20:37] <matholum> any ideas on how to restore items in the trash? specifically the Desktop folder
[20:37] <kostebek> 1305 users :S wowww :D
[20:37] <ethan961> Kal: did you install the linux drivers from Ralink's website? not anywhere else?
[20:37] <adam_> do I need to have smbfs installed if I want to share folder on windows machine?
[20:38] <nickrud> matholum, open the trash and drag the Desktop folder to /home/<you>
[20:38] <khermans> boivie, try another one, but doubt it
[20:38] <adam_> I set up sahring but it's readonly
[20:38]  * TSK has never been a big fan of UbuntuLinux in the past, but these latest flavors are really starting to change my mind.  7.10 actually works with this vile laptop I've been fighting with for 2 days even tho it's got a Broadcom chipset wlan card in it.  The other Linux's I tried wouldn't work with it even with ndiswrapper.  :)
[20:38] <adam_> I want it to be rw
[20:38] <AdemoS> nickrud, ooooh perfect. Thanks alot, that solved it exactly.
[20:38] <matholum> alright, i will have to try that.... thanks
[20:38]  * AdemoS adds this help to his archives
[20:38] <boivie> khermans: I only have one file of that type. Yet. :(
[20:38] <Onyx> I'm having no luck getting Amarok to use ALSA.  When I select "ALSA" in its config menu, it greys out the boxes where I would normally put the module... anyone been able to sort this out?
[20:39]  * nickrud was amazed that his laptop worked perfectly, even every single weird key
[20:39] <mirak> NOTICE: 'apt' packaging is maintained in the 'Bzr' version control system at:
[20:39] <mirak> why such a message ?
[20:39] <khermans> boivie, so you get no sound with vlc?
[20:39] <mirak> when doing apt-get source apt
[20:39] <luca> boris are u still there_
[20:39] <TSK> Onyx: I've always used the Xine engine with Amarok and set the Xine engine to use Alsa as it's output.
[20:39] <Kal> ethan961: Got the drivers from http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[20:39] <Onyx> TSK: How can I do that?
[20:39] <boivie> khermans: with that mp4-file I get no sound in vlc, that is correct.
[20:39] <nickrud> mirak, so you can get the latest development stuff if you like. It's common for the packagers to let people know where they get the stuff they package
[20:39] <tomadimov> Does anyone know where I can get the 64bit libdvdcss2 from?
[20:40] <khermans> boivie, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad|ugly|etc
[20:40] <ethan961> !rt2500
[20:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rt2500 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:40] <khermans> boivie, oh are you sure it has sound?
[20:40] <mirak> nickrud: ok
[20:40] <boivie> khermans: I'm pretty sure, It's from a TV-program.
[20:40] <khermans> boivie, try to use faad to convert it
[20:40] <PriceChild> ethan961, i'm familiar with that.... what's hte problem?
[20:40] <Kal> PriceChild: me :)
[20:40] <kebinusan> so is there some command I can use to reset permissions if I screwed up chown and changed the permissions on my entire system
[20:40] <nickrud> luca, if you ran compiz from the terminal, when you closed the terminal it stopped also.  You can press   alt-f2  then run compiz --replace to set it up permanently
[20:40] <TSK> Onyx: You'd just have to install the Xine engine (if it's not already installed) in your Adept or whatever package manager you use and then select it in Amarok as your preferred engine and then you should get a bunch of config options in there, one of which lets you select which audio output (Alsa) you want to use.  :)
[20:41] <PriceChild> Kal, ignore those drivers
[20:41] <Kal> kk
[20:41] <nickrud> AdemoS, np
[20:41] <TSK> I just like the Xine engine for Amarok because it has a LOT of plugins and support for a really wide range of file formats.  :)
[20:41] <ubuntunewb07> anyone know if a virtual hdd can be changed after its created with vmware
[20:41] <PriceChild> Kal, sudo apt-get install module-assistant. Then run it with sudo module-assistant. build and compile the "rt2500" module, exit module-assistant then "sudo modprobe rt2500" then all is working :)
[20:41] <Administrator> hello i need some help
[20:41] <ubuntunewb07> from 8gb to 20gb
[20:41] <matholum> tomadimov> mine isn't 64 but it was different.... try this in the terminal... sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[20:41] <AdemoS> nickrud, hmm, well I installed 7zip through synaptic, but I can't FIND it, in my applications menu or anywhere else..?
[20:42] <khermans> ubuntunewb07, vmware-vdiskmanager
[20:42] <Johnson> does ubunut have power profiles
[20:42] <ubuntunewb07> ah ha
[20:42] <ubuntunewb07> tyvm
[20:42] <rob3r> I am attempting to install 7.10 on a friends laptop, but I am having issues. It allows me to choose to Run/Install and then begins booting up, has the Ubuntu loading screen, then it goes into a command prompt/shell screen where it shows various modules and drivers loading. at this point it freezes on *Starting ConsoleKit daemon console-kit-daemon
[20:42] <PurpZeY> Johnson: Yes.
[20:42] <nickrud> AdemoS, I think 7zip is a command line version, try opening a terminal and running it
[20:42] <khermans> ubuntu0264, it is included as a command line tool with vmare
[20:42] <AdemoS> nickrud, oooh I wanted a gui version, might you know where I could get it?
[20:42] <TSK> Wow.  Information overload.  I'ma gotta go for now.  Y'all have fun.  :)
[20:42] <Administrator> when i run ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.1 up     i get SIOCIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[20:43] <fantum13> Hello, I am trying to get ndiswrapper to work on an x86_64 7.10 laptop, for the Atheros AR5007EG chipset?
[20:43] <khermans> AdemoS, just open file-roller
[20:43] <rob3r> So, is there anything I can do to fix this? What is ConsoleKit?
[20:43] <Johnson> PurpZey u know the name of the app
[20:43] <jeska> argh, sorry for all the vmware questions, but when trying to reinstall the player, it tells me i ened to remove two VMWare kernels apparently left behind by my initial installation called vmnet and vmmon, but i'm not sure how to remove them
[20:43] <nickrud> AdemoS, no. I sure don't
[20:43] <jakel1> anyone know how i can change the order that grub lists operating systems
[20:43] <luca> nickrud also doing that nothing happens no cube no rotation
[20:43] <AdemoS> khermans, well I tried to use file-roller, but it won't open my rar file
[20:43] <jakel1> i would like to have Windows at the top
[20:43] <AdemoS> nickrud, thanks anyway, and thanks again for before
[20:43] <jakel1> then list ubuntu below it
[20:43] <echosa> Anybody here use erc in emacs?
[20:43] <khermans> Ademan, install rar firstm then retry
[20:44] <nickrud> luca, did it work when you had it running from the terminal?
[20:44] <jakel1> i set the default boot to windows
[20:44] <luca> no
[20:44] <nickrud> luca, then you should go to #compiz-fusion, a lot of people who know compiz intimately can help you there
[20:44] <jakel1> but grub seems to always list it as the last one
[20:44] <Kal> PriceChild: Cant find package module-assistant
[20:44] <luca> thx
[20:44] <nickrud> luca, if they're around at this moment, that is :)
[20:45] <PriceChild> Kal, its definitely there. (You're on gutsy right?)
[20:45] <PriceChild> Kal, use tab completion to make sure you get the spelling right
[20:45] <luca> listen can u tell me why every time i reboot my notebook i lost my dns
[20:45] <Kal> Gutsy, with the Cd in.. one sec
[20:45] <Administrator> when i run ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.1 up     i get SIOCIFFLAGS: Timer expired
[20:46] <PriceChild> Kal, sudo apt-get update
[20:46] <nickrud> luca, not for sure, I'm not real familiar with how networkmanager handles dns
[20:46] <Kal> I have no network connection, I can't update online repositories
[20:47] <Kal> PriceChild: only thing i get on tab completion is module-init-tools
[20:47] <khermans> Kal, you could boot and chroot into your installtion using the live cd
[20:47] <PriceChild> khermans, why?
[20:47] <PriceChild> Kal, "sudo apt-get update", then try agai
[20:47] <PriceChild> n
[20:48] <Kal> PriceChild: no change
[20:48] <khermans> PriceChild, he said he had no network conection
[20:48] <n00bie> in one line, how can i convert a flac file to a vbr mp3 file?
[20:48] <kebinusan> any way to fix file ownership system wide if I screwed up a chown command or do I have to reinstall
[20:48] <khermans> n00bie, flac + lame
[20:48] <PriceChild> kebinusan, reinstall
[20:48]  * nickrud loves the sudo protection
[20:48] <kebinusan> bleh crap
[20:49] <function1> why dont i have an asound.conf?
[20:49] <PriceChild> khamael, right, so when I did this I had to download the packages off of packages.ubuntu.com manually,
[20:50] <justin__> ok i installed all the codecs and vlc and everything else, i read everything i could find but i still cant play any videos whatsoever please help!
[20:50] <tripps> i have gstreamer-plugins-bad which provides libgstequalizer.so which supposedly can be used by rhythmbox for an equalizer. however i cannot find out how to actually USE it . .
[20:50] <tomadimov> where I can get the 64bit libdvdcss2 from?
[20:50] <khermans> n00bie, flac --decode foo.flac && lame --vbr-new foo.wav
[20:50] <khamael> PriceChild: ???
[20:50] <nickrud> tomadimov, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-381bea41610683e5e26322fd7028e7aef85e3105
[20:51] <darkghost2> vistakiller:I'm Coming
[20:51] <jakel1> does anyone here know how i can change the order in which Grub lists the Operating Systems
[20:51] <jakel1> I would like to have windows XP listed first
[20:51] <rob3r> can anyone tell me why the live CD would quit at loading "* Starting ConsoleKit daemon console-kit-daemon"
[20:51] <justin__> can anyone help?
[20:51] <darkghost2> pardus on now
[20:51] <kojiro> jakel1: modify /boot/grub/menu.1st
[20:51] <PriceChild> khamael, I had this same problem. So I went to packages.ubuntu.com and got the package "module-assistant" and the required not installed dependencies then installed them in ubuntu
[20:51] <Kal> PriceChild: Think that was meant for me :)
[20:51] <PriceChild> Kal, whoops yes :)
[20:51] <khermans> jakel1, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:51] <jakel1> kojiro, ok.... i cnt figure out how i would change the list order in that... i got my default OS changed
[20:51] <nickrud> jakel1, look for the #begin debian automatic kernel (or similar) in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, and move the windows stanza above it
[20:52] <jakel1> oh....
[20:52] <jakel1> thanx nickrud
[20:52] <ChickenHead> how do i run .rpm files on ubuntu for ppc
[20:53] <khermans> you cant
[20:53] <jolle> where could i get the directx9 for linux?
[20:53] <nickrud> jakel1, you might end up with two listings, one at bottom and one at top, but what the hey :)
[20:53] <Chukchi> I tried ndiswrapper.  It installed the driver but I can't connect to the network.  It can detect the network.
[20:53] <racarter> my linux desktop suddenly got very slow
[20:53] <khermans> ChickenHead, you can try alien, but they myust be same arch
[20:53] <tripps> jakel1: you can also change the default OS to boot by setting the "default" attribute
[20:53] <racarter> i dont really get why
[20:53] <nickrud> !alien | ChickenHead
[20:53] <ubotu> ChickenHead: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[20:53] <n00bie> khermans: hmm, the mp3 is only encoded to a bitrate equal to 128 kbit/s
[20:53] <racarter> im not doing anything special and the System Monitor gui tool doesn't show a lot happening either
[20:54] <hypn0> jolle: isn't directx windows only
[20:54] <khermans> n00bie, man lame
[20:54] <ChickenHead> where can i get alien
[20:54] <nickrud> racarter, is your drive thrashing around?
[20:54] <khermans> ChickenHead, sudo aptitude install alien
[20:54] <racarter> the drive light on my laptop is not blinking
[20:54] <tripps> jakel1: setting default to the approprate entry may be easier than moving blocks of menu.1st around if that's what you're after
[20:55] <jolle> hypn0: no.. there must be some way
[20:55] <nickrud> racarter, by very slow, what do you mean in particular?
[20:55] <ChickenHead> khermans;; im a complete linux noob be more specific, detailed instructions please
[20:55] <khermans> ChickenHead, go into a terminal
[20:55] <racarter> when i rotate the desktop cube, or switch windows, it is slow
[20:55] <hypn0> jolle: what are you trying to do? someone might be able to help you
[20:55] <racarter> and cpu usage seems to spike when i do that
[20:55] <khermans> ChickenHead, then type 'man lame'
[20:56] <jolle> hypn0: i'm trying to install a game that needs directx9
[20:56] <nickrud> racarter, ohh, compiz issues probably. Try   alt-f2 metacity --replace  (you can revert with compiz --replace)  and see if it's still slow
[20:56] <kojiro> heh, khermans, ChickenHead wasn't asking about lame
[20:56] <ChickenHead> it says no manual entry
[20:56] <kojiro> you got your supportees mixed up
[20:57] <khermans> kojiro, wops!
[20:57] <Soskel> anyone know a good way to keep a mirror up to date without resync>
[20:57] <khamael> how do I change the bootimage? I installed geubuntu, and now I get a geubuntu splashscreen
[20:57] <khermans> ChickenHead, man alien
[20:57] <hypn0> jolle: wine is for windows games, but I don't know much abt that
[20:57] <nickrud> !usplash | khamael
[20:57] <khamael> not image, the splashscreen
[20:57] <ubotu> khamael: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[20:57] <racarter> that helped, thanks!
[20:57] <matholum> is there a command that i can use to give myself permission to modify a folder... for some reason it says that I only have read access and i don't want to have to boot into windows t fix it
[20:57] <seanh> Hi. Anyone know if Ubuntu can be installed on a Power Mac G3 Blue & White? And can it dual-boot with OS X? Thanks
[20:57] <jolle> hypn0: yes i know i'm installing it using wine
[20:57] <Kal> PriceChild: Choose rt2500 instead of rt2570 inside module-assistant?
[20:57] <nickrud> racarter, then you need to figure out if you lost 3d accel or something else is wrong with compiz
[20:58] <ChickenHead> it says no manual entry for alien
[20:58] <kojiro> seanh: a blue&white is a new-world PPC: therefore it should work.
[20:58] <Administrator> when i run ifconfig ath0 192.168.1.1 up     i get SIOCIFFLAGS: Timer expired  why?
[20:58] <seanh> kojiro -- thanks
[20:58] <PriceChild> Kal, yes :) Wow you got it going quickly :D Took me ages when I kept missing dependencies
[20:58] <hypn0> jolle: I think there is #winehq channel
[20:58] <PriceChild> Kal, wait... usb or pci?
[20:58] <Hanz> Hi, when im install it detects my ide drive as a sata, al the info is right but will it cause porblems later on?
[20:58] <jolle> hypn0: ok, thx :)
[20:58] <PriceChild> Kal, usb is 2570, pci is 2500
[20:59] <racarter> nickrud, after i switched back to compiz everything seems to be working now
[20:59] <ChickenHead> it says no manual entry for alien
[20:59] <racarter> i think
[20:59] <nickrud> !libata | Hanz that's ok, this link will explain if you're interested
[20:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:59] <khermans> ChickenHead, you need to install it first
[20:59] <nickrud> argh! woulda swore there was one
[20:59] <makers_mark> how can i restore an empty partition back to ubuntu through the live cd?
[20:59] <kojiro> ChickenHead: what are you trying to install? What rpm?
[20:59] <khermans> !alien | ChickenHead
[20:59] <ubotu> ChickenHead: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[20:59] <jeska> Hi, when removing the vmmon and vmnet modules to reinstall VMWare Player, do I just remove vmmon.tar and vmnet.tar from my system?
[20:59] <nickrud> Hanz, but anyway, the naming is changing, the new disk handling libraries use sata naming conventions
[21:00] <Kal> PriceChild: It's usb, so chose rt2570, however build failed
[21:00] <PriceChild> Kal, how did it fail?
[21:00] <n00bie> khermans: tried 'flac --decode foo.flac && lame --vbr-new -V 0 foo.wav'
[21:00] <PriceChild> Kal, i guess you're missing the rt2570-source package? ;)
[21:00] <khermans> Hanz, you can go back to the old style by disabling libata from the kernel boot params
[21:00] <n00bie> khermans: this should result in a high quality mp3 file, right?
[21:00] <ChickenHead> yahoo messenger
[21:00] <makers_mark> how can i restore an empty partition back to ubuntu through the live cd?
[21:00] <n00bie> khermans: but i still get only 128 kbit/s
[21:00] <khermans> n00bie, it results in standard quality
[21:00] <Kal> PriceChild:  Yep. :(
[21:00] <khermans> n00bie, man lame
[21:01] <PriceChild> Kal, well go get that too :)
[21:01] <khermans> n00bie, -b 192
[21:01] <Hanz> Sounds, cheers for that, the label doesn't bother me, just didn't want it going mad on me.
[21:01] <khermans> n00bie, you could also try soundconverter if you dont like the command line
[21:01] <ChickenHead> kojiro: im tryin to use yahoo messenger
[21:02] <isaacj87> I tried using "tor" and while it did "change" my IP address, I ran Shields UP! and found that port 1027 was open...what gives?
[21:02] <nickrud> !uuid | Hanz this has some info if you're interested ;)
[21:02] <ubotu> Hanz this has some info if you're interested ;): To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[21:02] <kojiro> ChickenHead: tried pidgin?
[21:02] <ChickenHead> will it work for ppc
[21:02] <isaacj87> So I decided to remove tor and privoxy...those programs couldn't mess with iptables correct?
[21:02] <fantum13> isaacj87: That was the IP of the Tor server.
[21:02] <kojiro> ChickenHead: yep
[21:02] <PurpZeY> ChickenHead: Pidgin supports yahoo messenger protocol
[21:02] <ChickenHead> ok i'll try
[21:02] <n00bie> khermans: i still get 128 kbit/s ... i have tried soundconverter as well with the same result
[21:03] <Administrator> :'(
[21:03] <ChickenHead> does it support video
[21:03] <ChickenHead> o.O
[21:03] <PurpZeY> ChickenHead: No.
[21:03] <Hanz> nickrud, cheers man
[21:03] <PurpZeY> ChickenHead: I thin Kopete is the software people are using for  that
[21:03] <ChickenHead> well whats a service i can use for video on ubuntu ppc
[21:03] <kojiro> what kind of video?
[21:03] <isaacj87> fantum13: ah. okay...I decided to remove tor...is iptables still intact? I only messed with the addons I added to firefox...
[21:03] <khermans> n00bie, -b 192 i said
[21:03] <PurpZeY> kojiro: Webcam chatting, I assumed he meant
[21:04] <khermans> ChickenHead, vlc
[21:04] <summit> hey all. i got a slight problem, i can't boot from hd from some reason or another and have no floppy... i tried using the live disk and modifying the boot parameters but that just seemed to break. does anyone know how to boot using some kind of cd boot disk and make the root disk /dev/hda1?
[21:04] <kojiro> heh
[21:04] <ChickenHead> whats vlc
[21:04] <PurpZeY> ChickenHead: What type of video did you mean?
[21:04] <darkghost2> ChickenHead: media player
[21:04] <Kal> Video player
[21:04] <aro> !vlc
[21:04] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:04] <isaacj87> fantum13: I'd have to manually edit iptables for anything to happen to my firewall correct?
[21:04] <khermans> ChickenHead, but i think your question now is relatd to vidoe conferenging?  try ekiga
[21:05] <fantum13> isaacj87: iptables will be completely intact after removing Tor.
[21:05] <boivie> khermans: Now I found out that it actually was no sound in that file. :( Sorry for bothering you, and thanks for your help anyway.
[21:05] <dadeto> hi! i have a small problem with my wireless network, i have to start my interface manually with depmod -a and modprobe ndiswrapper, how can i do for it to start it up autpmatically?
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: IS that a ubuntu only or dual boot or some other setup
[21:05] <fantum13> isaacj87: Also, if the Shields UP! scan you ran was from the website, that meant that the port was open on the Tor server.
[21:05] <Flannel> !grub | summit
[21:05] <ubotu> summit: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:06] <melkor_> Okay I am trying to run a dvd and it doesn't appear to be mounted properly
[21:06] <n00bie> khermans: thx
[21:06] <melkor_> ie I can't read from it.
[21:06] <PurpZeY> melkor_: Is it a movie?
[21:06] <isaacj87> fantum13: will that effect my computer in any way? having that port open like that?
[21:06] <melkor_> But I can see the files.
[21:06] <khermans> n00bie, np
[21:06] <melkor_> Yes
[21:06] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: only, Flannel, booting direct from the disk doesn't work, hasn;t worked for a long while... something properly wrong
[21:06] <Flannel> summit: Super Grub Disk is a pre-fab boot CD that'll boot to HDDs
[21:06] <PurpZeY> !codec | melkor
[21:06] <ubotu> melkor: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:06] <fantum13> isaacj87: the port isn't open on your computer, its opened at the Tor exit node.
[21:06] <isaacj87> fantum13: oh. I see...thanks!
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: Running the livecd there is an option to boot from the first hard disk
[21:07] <melkor_> I'm pretty sure I have the formats, because it has worked before, I am in gnome, but I installed kde4.  could that change my drivers.
[21:08] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i tried that and it didn't work in the same way it doesn't work normally... something like "system disk not found"
[21:08] <fantum13> So, would anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working on an AR5007EG in Gutsy?
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: And you cant get live cd to run enought to get to a desktop
[21:08] <summit> i'm using the live cd now
[21:08] <khermans> fantum13, if it is amd64, you would need a win64 driver
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: From terminak  type sudo fdisk -l
[21:09] <dadeto> hi! i have a small problem with my wireless network, i have to start my interface manually with depmod -a and modprobe ndiswrapper, how can i do for it to start it up autpmatically?
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: sorry for the spelling, fingers are sore
[21:09] <caravel> hi
[21:09] <fantum13> khermans: I'm fairly sure I do have a 64 bit windows driver. However, although I can see WAP's, I can't obtain an IP address from them with DHCP.
[21:09] <khermans> !hi | caravel
[21:09] <ubotu> caravel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:09] <caravel> how to change mldonkey's kad port ? "Option kademlia_port does not exist", surprisingly ^^
[21:10] <nickrud> dadeto, add   ndiswrapper    to a line by itself in /etc/modules , it'll load automatically on boot
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fantum13: Have you looked at our hardware page to see if that card is supported and how to get it going if it is?
[21:10] <khermans> fantum13, oh try dhclient
[21:10] <Tortured> is there a program in the repos to take multiple avi's and create a dvd iso out of them?
[21:10] <dadeto> thanks nickrud
[21:11] <fantum13> Jack_Sparrow: Yes, I've looked through everything. Apparently the card isnt' supported for MadWifi on amd64 yet, so I'm trying ndiswrapper. It's set up, just not connecting.
[21:11] <nickrud> caravel, try asking on #mldonkey
[21:11] <okeefenokee> Tell me, experts, is migrating to utf-8 a big project under gutsy?
[21:11] <nickrud> okeefenokee, utf8 is the default under gutsy
[21:11] <caravel> Tortured: Look at the software list included in ubuntu-studio packages
[21:12] <khermans> okeefenokee, yea no change
[21:12] <khermans> caravel, i heard bad things about US
[21:12] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: http://rafb.net/p/xfVBIm75.html is the output from that
[21:12] <fantum13> khermans: holy ****, it works. I think its because I nuked the hell out of the residual madwifi stuff, but dhclient works and I can ping google.
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[21:12] <khermans> caravel, just install thre packages under ubuntu
[21:12] <nickrud> khermans, what :( Should I switch to gb? I can live with bad spelling
[21:13] <okeefenokee> nickrud: Really? I have some files created under edgy with scand-characters in them. They do look funny with ls and under vdr (Video Disk Recorder). how do I change these names into a readable format?
[21:13] <khermans> fantum13, :-)
[21:13] <fantum13> khermans: double :)
[21:13] <khermans> nickrud, heh
[21:13] <nickrud> okeefenokee, khermans is saying us has problems (news to me) You using us?
[21:13] <khermans> fantum13, np dude
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: thanks for using the pastebin... question are you running two flavors of linux?
[21:13] <khermans> nickrud, no no --- Ubuntu Studio
[21:13] <heartsblood> Has anybody here been able to get a 3g ipod nano to work in ubuntu?
[21:14] <nickrud> khermans, oh oh oh. whew :)
[21:14] <K-Burke> Does the default Ubuntu Generic Linux support 'SMP' ?
[21:14] <PurpZeY> !ipod | heartsblood
[21:14] <ubotu> heartsblood: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:14] <khermans> heartsblood, just try gtkpod
[21:14] <heartsblood> Purpzey: before you spam me with references, you should read them.
[21:14] <khermans> heartsblood, do you know about rockbox ?
[21:14] <heartsblood> Khermans: gtkpod doesn't have encryption support yet :(
[21:14] <khermans> K-Burke, yes i believe so
[21:14] <okeefenokee> :) I'm using swedish charsets
[21:14] <PurpZeY> I don't need to read them I don't own an ipod
[21:14] <khermans> heartsblood, encryption?
[21:14] <fantum13> Tortured: try DeVeDe, you can search for it in Synaptic or on the web interface of the repo to see if it will work. That's the closest I can think of, although it'll only produce a DVD with a movie on it, no title screens or things like that.
[21:14] <nickrud> heartsblood, the ubuntu libgpod doesn't support it. You'd have to compile it
[21:14] <K-Burke> khermans: I hope so
[21:15] <khermans> heartsblood, you mean that DRM crap you purchased from a commercial vendor?
[21:15] <Kal> PriceChild:  Got all the packages installed, now build fails with dh_clean cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory
[21:15] <kindiak_> hi all, why current "1600*1200" (native for monitor) resolution is cut on sides? fonts and objects look as being interpolated
[21:15] <Tortured> fantum13: thats all i need, ill look into it, thanks
[21:15] <heartsblood> Khermans: no, the 3g nano's have an encrypted DB.
[21:15] <Aztec007> Is it is possible to recompile and install my Kernel and not have to lose my configuration?
[21:15] <khermans> heartsblood, oh!!!
[21:15] <khermans> heartsblood, i still say to move ot rockbox
[21:15] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: nope, i tried installing ubuntu earlier (after i thought there was a windows problem booting from my hd), but it wouldn't boot itself...
[21:15] <nickrud> khermans, no apple changed some checksums, it didn't get decoded till 0.6 in libgpod. Ubuntu has 5.2 iirc
[21:15] <heartsblood> I'm looking at that now
[21:15] <Aztec007> that is, not have to reformat my drive?
[21:15] <fantum13> heartsblood: wasn't that cracked within a few weeks of the new iPods coming out?
[21:15] <PriceChild> Kal, :/ rt2570 or rt2500? (you have usb or pci?)
[21:16]  * khermans <3 rockbox
[21:16] <Kal> rt2570
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: What is the second linux partition and solaris /swap?
[21:16] <Kal> PriceChild: I have USB
[21:16] <heartsblood> Fantum13: yes and no, from everything i've read you need a "windows formated iPod" to work around the DB encrytions, but I dont have access to a windows pc.
[21:16] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: swap is swap, hda1 is / and hda3 is /home
[21:16]  * nickrud still has a warranty on his nano, will wait till it expires before rockboxing
[21:17] <khermans> nickrud, rockbox cant damage your ipod
[21:17] <mirak> is there a max package name size defined in debian ?
[21:17] <PriceChild> Kal, I've never done rt2570 myself, just rt2500 but should be the same. I'm not sure why that's happening.
[21:17] <fantum13> heartsblood: You can still format it for windows, "windows formatted" just means it uses vFat. Have you tried using wine with the windows iPod restore utility?
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: Can you get to /boot/grub/menu.lst on the first partition and paste it ?
[21:17] <khermans> mirak, #debian
[21:17] <nickrud> khermans, not for damage from rockbox, but sure that my warranty is voided if I install it
[21:17] <mirak> khermans: well same question for ubuntu
[21:17] <r-wolf> 7.10, Radeon x700; a game changes display gamma and screen stays bright after I close the game; how do I reset gamma to default without rebooting?
[21:17] <khermans> mirak, or see the debian packaging guidelines
[21:17] <heartsblood> fantum13: yep, iTunes wouldn't install, it said it required windows XP to install.
[21:17] <khermans> nickrud, heh
[21:18] <alanbshepard70> Is there anyway to unlock a directory that was locked by a program that crashed without rebooting? The program I ran locked its home directory, crashed and now won't let me restart it because it says another instance is using the home directory. I have checked the running apps list and the program is not still running
[21:18] <khermans> alanbshepard70, remove the .lock files
[21:18] <khermans> ?
[21:18] <nickrud> alanbshepard70, look in /var/lock for a lock file as well
[21:18] <chuy_max> hi, is it possible to create keybindings for applications?
[21:18] <kindiak_> help me, who use 1600*1200 - why it looks like 1500*1200 (not native)
[21:18] <heartsblood> fantum13: Requires XP or vista to install was the wine error.  I was under the impression that wine eumlated XP.
[21:19] <heartsblood> emulated*
[21:19] <alanbshepard70> khermans: nickrud: thanks
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> wine is not an emulator
[21:19] <fantum13> heartsblood: not by default. Run winecfg to fix that.
[21:19] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: http://rafb.net/p/AUtw8512.html
[21:19] <|thunder> I just reinstalled gutsy, whats the best app to make an image from my installed / partition so I Can reinstall in minutes later ?
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[21:19] <nickrud> if it walks like a duck ...
[21:20] <|thunder> why does gparted take an eternity to start ? lol
[21:20] <ttt--> feed it some old bread
[21:20] <GhostChe> I just got an ipod video (6th gen) and have tried gtkpod and amarok to add music, the mp3's transfer but the ipod won't display the music (possibly mounting it as a mass storage device?) ubuntu 7.10 recognizes it as an ipod, any help?
[21:20] <r-wolf> !raid
[21:20] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[21:20] <khermans> alanbshepard70, np
[21:20] <|thunder> GhostChe; you have to synch them when your donw
[21:20] <|thunder> *done
[21:20] <heartsblood> Fantum13: I did not know about that, ty.
[21:21] <|thunder> Anyone, best app to make a compressed image/backup of an entire partiton ?
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: Do you get a grub prompt?
[21:21] <VikJES> |thunder: Take a look at PartImage or CloneZilla
[21:21] <|thunder> VikJES; thanks
[21:21] <Kal> PriceChild: rausb0 is showing in iwconfig, but there's nothing in /etc/network/interfaces about it, Wireless Connection shows up in System | Administration | Network, any ideas?
[21:21] <Flare183> !best | |thunder
[21:21] <ubotu> |thunder: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[21:21] <Jorge_> Hi everyone.
[21:21] <khermans> |thunderd, clonezilla!
[21:21] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: nope, don't get that far
[21:21] <VikJES> |thunder: There's also MondoRescue that is quite good
[21:21] <nickrud> !pod | GhostChe (next ubuntu should support it out of the box)
[21:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:21] <GhostChe> |thunder, i'm hitting save on gtkpod
[21:21] <nickrud> !ipod | GhostChe (next ubuntu should support it out of the box)
[21:21] <ubotu> GhostChe (next ubuntu should support it out of the box): For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:22] <|thunder> Flare183; thats no help
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: ANy idea what you were doing before it failed to boot?
[21:22] <GhostChe> ubotu, thank you, checking now
[21:22] <|thunder> VikJES; thanks alot, ill have a look at all 3
[21:22] <Jorge_> I seem to be having an installation problem with Ubuntu.  I am trying to install it to hdd and it just will not do that.  It says that it fails to format the drive.  Any ideas?
[21:22] <PriceChild> Kal, in system. admin, network manager, change it to "roaming mode"
[21:22] <PriceChild> Kal, then it'll work fine from the nm-applet near the clock
[21:22] <summit> Jack_Sparrow: nothing different to normal
[21:22] <|thunder> GhostChe; hrm, when you hit save does it act like it communicating witht he ipod, because synch is the proper term and shoulkd be found under the 'file' menu. at least in gtkpod
[21:23]  * nickrud is sad to discover rockbox won't work on his 3d gen nano
[21:23] <Kal> Isn't showing in the applet, just wired connection and manual conf
[21:23] <Kal> PriceChild: Isn't showing in the applet, just wired connection and manual conf
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> summit: If you umount the partition and fsck it you can check for errors or you can try grub repiar per the /msg ubotu !grub
[21:23] <Boris_> i need a program that serves as a GUI for ssh as server and client
[21:24] <PriceChild> Kal, but it shows up in ifconfig and iwconfig?
[21:24] <Flare183> !ssh | Boris_ (hope this helps)
[21:24] <ubotu> Boris_ (hope this helps): SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: are you trying to manually setup the partitions?
[21:24] <GhostChe> |thunder, I've hit the save button at the top and the synchronize dirs under the file menu
[21:24] <Boris_> Flare183, thanks
[21:25] <Flare183> Boris_: no problem
[21:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: Time for me to eat...   Someone else can help you with that...
[21:25] <Kal> PriceChild: Shows in iwconfig as rausb0, nothing in ifconfig
[21:25] <PriceChild> Kal, sudo iwlist rausb0 scan
[21:25] <PriceChild> Kal, does that show anything>/
[21:26] <igge> if I create a service that starts when I log in (using preferences/sessions), how can I make it stop when I log out?
[21:26] <Kal> PriceChild: interface doesn't support scanning
[21:26] <Jorge_> Jack_Sparrow, I let Ubuntu decide where and how to install.
[21:26] <Vinno> just reinstalled apache php again after a whole night of getting fresh ubuntu install. can someone test out http://home.vinno.net to see if it works from outside please
[21:26] <PriceChild> Kal, sudo ifup rausb0
[21:26] <Flare183> igge: sudo /etc/init.d/ <program name> stop
[21:27] <melkor_> !libdvdcss
[21:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:27] <igge> Flare183: but it's not a service like that... it's run when I log in to my gnome session
[21:27] <igge> not as root
[21:27] <Flare183> igge: then go to the system monitor and kill it
[21:28] <Kal> PriceChild: doing lots of DHCPDISCOVER lines, no DHCP offers received, no working leases in persistend database
[21:28] <igge> Flare183: :) but I want it killed automatically when I log out
[21:28] <sebrock> I need help to enable DRI on a GMA3100
[21:28] <PriceChild> Kal, I'm pretty sure the thing is working then
[21:28] <Flare183> igge: it should do that automatically
[21:28] <Kal> PriceChild: The router is a linksys and is set to DHCP :)
[21:28] <igge> Flare183: I know the command to kill it... but how can I make sure the command is triggered...
[21:29] <Drainman> anyone know hwo to fix so that you can watch flash videos... it kills my computer to watch streamed videos...
[21:29] <PriceChild> Kal, I'd suggest just rebooting and seeing if things work in network manager then.
[21:29] <heartsblood> I was just forced to install realplayer in ubuntu.  I feel dirty :(
[21:29] <Palthron> busy channel :|
[21:29] <igge> Flare183: it should? hm.... how come it doesn't?
[21:29] <Kal> I also get a grep: /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory
[21:29] <lusepuster> Hi - does anybody have an idea why my swap partition is not activated at startup? I cannot even do a manual swapon...
[21:30] <paulskin> Palthron: 1310 users tends to keep the conversation flowing
[21:30] <Flare183> igge: beats me; really depends on the application settings or the gnome session settings
[21:30] <AdemoS> Hmm
[21:30] <Jorge_> Any ideas anyone on why Ubuntu fails to format a drive?
[21:30] <K-Burke> Why is the 'linux-source' package kernel 2.6.22.9 instead of linux kernel 2.6.22-14 ?
[21:30] <Palthron> lusepuster : automount the partition in  gstab maybe?
[21:30] <|thunder> argh, cant backup a mounted partiton ? WTF Partimage !
[21:30] <|ns|nR8> Jorge_ download gparted livecd
[21:30] <Flare183> Jorge_: possibly corrupt maybe
[21:30] <|ns|nR8> will work then
[21:30] <AdemoS> Getting this error: Could not open "urgh.rar" Archive type not supported.
[21:30] <AdemoS> But I have 7zip installed
[21:31] <lusepuster> Palthron, you mean fstab?
[21:31] <AdemoS> along with the rar plugin
[21:31] <Flare183> AdemoS: install p7zip-rar
[21:31] <|ns|nR8> AdemoS its a rar file not zip
[21:31] <Palthron> ah yeah, fstab
[21:31] <Palthron> sorry
[21:31] <igge> Flare183: hm.. to clarify.. it's not a service that starts at boot... it's a startup program for the gnome session
[21:31] <AdemoS> Flare183, p7zip  is installed
[21:31] <Jorge_> |ns|nR8 That seems extreme
[21:31] <lusepuster> Palthron, what should the line say in fstab?
[21:31] <AdemoS> Flare183, and  p7zip-rar  is installed
[21:31] <truna> what modifications has firefox 2.0.0.11 done to not display websites at times, but it displays okay in opera?
[21:32] <igge> Flare183: the only thing i can set is a command to be run... but no command on logout...
[21:32] <Flare183> AdemoS: p7zip-rar must be installed to have that support but i would suggest rar itself
[21:32] <|ns|nR8> its only about 30mb Jorge_ and its handy to have
[21:32] <Flare183> !rar | AdemoS
[21:32] <ubotu> AdemoS: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[21:32] <K-Burke> lusepuster: 'man fstab' in terminal window
[21:32] <Palthron> this is mine : UUID=2c042705-4af8-4df6-8542-1259c1b198d2	none			swap		sw				0		0
[21:32] <AdemoS> rar itself? they  have a linux version?
[21:32] <Jorge_> |ns|nR8 the drive works fine in Windows
[21:32] <AdemoS> well I'll check
[21:32] <Flare183> igge: i don't know
[21:32] <Flare183> AdemoS: yeap
[21:32] <igge> Flare183: ok thx anyway
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> AdemoS: where did you find p7zip-rar?
[21:32] <Flare183> AdemoS: and installing unrar too
[21:32] <Flare183> install*
[21:33] <igge> anyone else who knows?
[21:33] <K-Burke> Why is the 'linux-source' package with apt-get or synaptic kernel 2.6.22.9 instead of linux kernel 2.6.22-14 ?
[21:33] <igge> how can I run a script when I log out from gnome?
[21:33] <AdemoS> Jack_Sparrow, heey, I remember you from months ago. --- I got it from synaptic
[21:33] <AdemoS> Flare183, okay I'll get that
[21:33] <sebrock> anyone knows how I enable DRI on GMA3100?
[21:33] <Flare183> AdemoS: ok
[21:33] <r-wolf> 7.10, Radeon x700; a game changes display gamma and screen stays bright after I close the game; how do I reset gamma to default without rebooting?
[21:33] <sebrock> cant get it to work by simply putting "DRI" in modules sectio
[21:33] <Freddy2> hi
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> AdemoS: hi...  glad your issue is a minor one
[21:33] <Jowi> igge, you can make your own log out script (not use the logout button)
[21:34] <|thunder> igge; anything started with sessions will stop when you log out
[21:34] <|thunder> igge, period
[21:34] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[21:34] <lazy247x> need help understanding folders - - first is there is a Folder with an X on it.. (what does that mean?) secured.. etc..
[21:34] <EvaLuaTe> how to update the version of a specific program that is currently installed please ?
[21:34] <Jorge_> Are there no tools on the live cd to format a drive?
[21:34] <Jowi> !permissions | lazy247x
[21:34] <ubotu> lazy247x: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[21:34] <lazy247x> then there is a folder looks like its a shortcut..
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !info p7zip-rar
[21:34] <ubotu> p7zip-rar: non-free rar module for p7zip. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.51~ds.1-1 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 156 kB
[21:34] <Freddy2> i'm interested in buying a new adaptec 2420SA raid controller, which needs the aacraid driver for working.. is this module integrated in default x86-64 kernels? thx
[21:35] <igge> |thunder: sure? how does gnome know what to stop?
[21:35] <Flare183> PriceChild: sugesstion ignore it if you want; you might want to run the traffic factoid
[21:35] <lusepuster> K-Burke, Palthron : it says a swap partition should have 'none' as the mount point, and it has...
[21:35] <Jowi> lazy247x, icons with X on them are write protected. right click on the folder/icon and see its permissions and you will understand in conjunction with reading the link ubotu gave.
[21:35] <PriceChild> Flare183, run it if it is needed
[21:35] <lazy247x>  !permissions | lazy247x
[21:35] <lazy247x> !permissions | lazy247x
[21:36] <r-wolf> how do I convert folder contents to ISO?
[21:36] <AdemoS> Jack_Sparrow, haha sorry if you don't recall. You helped me fix a burning issue with booting Ubuntu 7.10
[21:36] <Flare183> PriceChild: seems i need to nicks are very high
[21:36] <Flare183> !traffic
[21:36] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[21:36] <AdemoS> Flare183, aha! That worked perfect
[21:36] <|thunder> igge; because anything that is run from there 'pref/sessions' is run with your ownership and permissions. When you logout you givwe up all permissions and they have to stop or noone will own them
[21:36] <Flare183> AdemoS: good
[21:36] <truna> what modifications has firefox 2.0.0.11 done to not display websites at times, but it displays okay in opera?
[21:36] <Palthron> lusepuster : maybe recreating the swap partition would automatically refill the gstab entry
[21:36] <|ns|nR8> r-wolf cat /folder >> file.iso
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> AdemoS: Sorry I dont remember, hope I helped...  Try to un-rar with the regular tool not trhough 7zip and see if that works
[21:37] <Kal> PriceChild: went with ndiswrapper, it's now showing in the applet, but still .... damnit it's working :p
[21:37] <Flare183> Jack_Sparrow: already fixed it
[21:37] <Jorge_> Ok, no Ubuntu with this machine I suppose.  Back to XP on this one.
[21:37] <Kal> PriceChild: God I hate ndiswrapper sometimes :P
[21:37] <Palthron> luespuster : if that doesn't work then i don't know. I've only been using Ubuntu (Or Linux at all) for a week :P
[21:37] <PriceChild> Kal, ndiswrapper just shouldn't be needed
[21:37] <chazco> Is there anyway to disable subtitles in Totem?
[21:37] <igge> |thunder: ah ok... I was logged in on a different tty to see if they were killed... so that's why the were not, becahse I was still logged in? (even though the gnome session was logged out)
[21:38] <AdemoS> Jack_Sparrow, well installing unrar allowed fileroller to see it fine. I kept 7zip around for any .7zip files I might come across though.
[21:39] <lazy247x> how can i find out what permission folders have? in term?
[21:39] <Kal> PriceChild: I assume i just add 'modprobe ndiswrapper' to /etc/init.d/boot.local?
[21:39] <Flare183> !permissions
[21:39] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[21:39] <PriceChild> Kal, add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules if it works
[21:39] <lazy247x> I tryed !permissions doesnt work
[21:39] <devaudio> hey , if i wanted to play a joke on someone, i have set their gateway as my ubuntu server - i want to send all port 80 traffic through my squid server. I have squid up and running, and i cat'd 1 to ip_forward in proc -- now i am trying to get iptables to do iptables -A INPUT -s 58.68.1.0/255.255.255.192  -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1 - tells me "invalid argument" what am i doing wrong?
[21:39] <AdemoS> thanks again guys, see ya around
[21:39] <lazy247x> event not found
[21:39] <|ns|nR8> lazy247x its just a switch on the ls command
[21:39] <|ns|nR8> type msn ls
[21:39] <|ns|nR8> oops
[21:39] <|ns|nR8> man ls
[21:39] <lusepuster> Palthron, Ah okay, yep... I have for 3 years :) But, there are still problems coming up every now and then, and I never was 1337...
[21:40] <Jowi> lazy247x, look above at the link ubotu gave
[21:40] <Flare183> !enter
[21:40] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:40] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way to upgrade a package (sendmail for example) to the latest version available ? and if yes, what is the command please ?
[21:40] <CoasterMaster> Is there a way to tell the PrintScreen utility to save the image as a JPEG?
[21:40] <igge> no seriously... they are not stopped... now I have 4 instances running (after logging in and out 4 times)
[21:40] <lazy247x> i see that -- different Icons but dont know what its means?
[21:42] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way to upgrade a package (sendmail for example) to the latest version available ? and if yes, what is the command please ?
[21:42] <Jowi> lazy247x, first read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions then right click and look at the permission properties of the file you are wondering about. it will make sence if you take some time to understand it.
[21:42] <K-Burke> EvaLuaTe: you might be able to upgrade the sendmail package by deleting the sendmail package and installing the new sendmail by source as long as it doesn't need new dependencies
[21:42] <K-Burke> EvaLuaTe: compile the new sendmail by source is the only way I can think of
[21:42] <EvaLuaTe> K-Burke, isn't there any way to do this with apt ?
[21:42] <dasorm> How to prevent newly mounted stuff from creating a desktop icon ?
[21:43] <K-Burke> EvaLuaTe: Not for a single package no
[21:43] <kalchas> hi
[21:43] <Palthron> evaluate : how about using apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[21:43] <EvaLuaTe> K-Burke, ok, thank you sir
[21:43] <kalchas> i have a peculiar problem
[21:43] <EvaLuaTe> Palthron, that won't work
[21:43] <kalchas> can anybody help?
[21:43] <Jowi> lazy247x, file permissions are very very useful to understand (I would even say fundamental) in a GNU/Linux system.
[21:43] <dasorm> kalchas: more details please
[21:43] <aliljet>  http://digg.com/playable_web_games/Is_everyone_around_you_stupid_Yes_they_are  <-- impossibly hard.
[21:43] <chazco> Is there any way to clear out /var/cache/apt/archives of any packages that are not currently installed?
[21:44] <mrynit> what is the best laptop to get that supports ubuntu the most
[21:44] <GhostChe> okay my mp3's come up as invisible in amarok, and a few websites have the suggest to right click and choose add to database, this option is not there for me, any idea why?
[21:44] <gtt> system76 or thinkpad ?
[21:44] <kalchas> well, I have installed gutsy on my system.... when I boot to Single user mode, i get an error: init: rcS-sulogin main process (5114) killed by TERM signal
[21:44] <Palthron> dell comes with ubuntu
[21:44] <kalchas> and I cannot login
[21:45] <mrynit> Palthron: the one they sell now is only 14.1"
[21:45] <gtt> my dell inspiron 1520 did pretty good, but the sound and wlan didnt work out of the box.
[21:45] <mrynit> :/
[21:45] <mrynit> gtg to buy laptop
[21:45] <PurpZeY> mrynit: I can't speak for anything or anyone but myself, but my sony vaio worked oob
[21:45] <K-Burke> myrtion: I have a Gateway model MT6821 laptop and it works great under Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon
[21:46] <K-Burke> myrtion: only problem is that the laptop came with windows vista installed
[21:46] <gtt> my asus z92km worked too, not the asus wlan 120+, but the sound worked fine out of the box on feisty.
[21:46] <Flare183> !spam | aliljet
[21:46] <ubotu> aliljet: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[21:46] <kalchas> can anyone help me?
[21:46] <gtt> hibernate worked much better on the asus... the inspiron doesnt turn the monitor back on after hibernate.
[21:46] <gtt> suggz.
[21:46] <PurpZeY> kalchas: Ask your question and find out
[21:47] <kalchas> well, I have installed gutsy on my system.... when I boot to Single user mode, i get an error: init: rcS-sulogin main process (5114) killed by TERM signal
[21:47] <PurpZeY> gtt: Hibernate is troublesome on a lot of machines
[21:47] <dusan_> !ssh
[21:47] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[21:47] <dusan_> !ati
[21:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:47] <DrIP_Coder> hi all, i'm a noob at *nix, i just need to run a few bots on a *nix system, i know bash and what not, but can anyone tell me if this is an ok distro for just that
[21:47] <PurpZeY> !botspam | dusan_
[21:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botspam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:47] <dusan_> whats bootspam ?
[21:47] <dusan_> oh, sorry
[21:47] <dusan_> the bot lagged
[21:47] <Palthron> mrynit : BenQ S21 works
[21:47] <Flare183> !botabuse | dusan_
[21:47] <ubotu> dusan_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:47] <dusan_> and i didnt know if it worked
[21:48] <dusan_> i didnt joke !
[21:48] <PurpZeY> DrIP_Coder: Sounds like it should be fine, if you just need a server you don't need Ubuntu w/ gnome though...you might just want the server end
[21:48] <Rezagrats> I need a file on how to correctly partition a hard drive ( on windows ) for ubuntu ( i need to take the file home )
[21:48] <neverblue> if I want to use LDAP auth. for say, my FTP or apache, what packages should i be installing ?
[21:49] <kalchas> well, I have installed gutsy on my system.... when I boot to Single user mode, i get an error: init: rcS-sulogin main process (5114) killed by TERM signal and I cannot login
[21:49] <PurpZeY> Rezagrats: I'm not sure I understand.
[21:49] <neverblue> !ldap
[21:49] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[21:49] <Flare183> !dualboot > Rezagrats (hope this helps)
[21:49] <Vinno> a
[21:49] <DrIP_Coder> ok
[21:49]  * Flare183 says slow bot
[21:49] <Flare183> !dualboot > Rezagrats (hope this helps)
[21:49] <Rezagrats> PurpZeY, i need a downloadable movie on "how to partition your hard drive for ubuntu"
[21:49] <PurpZeY> A movie?
[21:49] <kalchas> has anybody any idea?
[21:50]  * Flare183 says ooops sorry
[21:50] <Rezagrats> Thanks for the highlight Flare183
[21:50] <Flare183> Rezagrats: no problem sorry about the second time
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Rezagrats: How a drive is partitioned depends on what os or os's you plan on installing
[21:50] <Rezagrats> ....
[21:50] <Jorge_> Is there a way to format a drive in Ubuntu?
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> sure.. gparted
[21:51] <Malin> anybody knows if Rhythmbox can handle .asx stream?
[21:51] <Jorge_> from the live cd?
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[21:51] <Rezagrats> Jack_Sparrow i need a movie on how to partition your hard drive for ubuntu ( i'm new at this so i need good instructions )
[21:51] <Palthron> Rezagrats : Is saving a html file suffice? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[21:51] <Jorge_> No internet on live cd either
[21:51] <PriceChild> malakhi, pretty sure it can, depends what's inside the asx stream
[21:51] <jcg42> What is the best native Gnome CD Burner? I don't want to install K3b.
[21:51] <Jorge_> Jack_Sparrow, how to start gparted?
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Rezagrats: There is no single answer.. see my question
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: system..admin.. partition manager
[21:52] <KNY> once I boot the liveCD is there a way to check the hash (to make sure it's a good burn, etc) or do I have to reboot?
[21:52] <Jorge_> Jack_Sparrow, that does not start
[21:52] <Jorge_> It tries, but never does actually start
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: If it just hangs then there is some other issue...  DO you have vista or some other os on that drive?
[21:52] <kalchas> has anybody something to respond to my question?
[21:53] <Jowi> Rezagrats, go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition Then in firefox chose File -> Save Page As... and mark "web page, complete" to save all the images etc. then copy the html and folder to a usb disk or whatever...
[21:53] <truna> KNY one you boot from liveCD you are okay pretty much
[21:53] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow XP and pclos
[21:53] <K-Burke> jcg42: brasero is the best native gnome cd burner
[21:53] <K-Burke> jcg42: 'brasero'
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: You can dl the gparted livecd and try that.. It works very well.. Better on some drives than gparted on the ubuntu livecd
[21:53] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, actually, on that drive, nothing is on it.
[21:53] <Jowi> Rezagrats, it's no movie. but it's quite good.
[21:53] <kasio> how can i make rhythmbox start quicker?
[21:53] <kalchas> has anybody something to respond to my question?
[21:54] <lusepuster> kalchas, probably not if not answering. Try and wait and ask again, someone else might have joined the channel that knows. That, or ask at the ubuntuforums.org.
[21:54] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, this makes no sense.  To install Ubuntu requires another distribution??????????????
[21:54] <K-Burke> jcg42: sudo apt-get install brasero
[21:54] <kalchas> thanks lusepuster
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: Not another distro...  you have a hardware problem.. I am suggesting a possible solution
[21:55] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow no hardware problem.  Works fine from xp and pclos
[21:55] <lusepuster> Jorge_, no! I guess Jack_Sparrow was suggesting it because it has a more sophisticated gparted that might help in your specific case or something. In general, only the Ubuntu CD is normally enough
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: It is a stand alone tool... Is this an EXTERNAL drive you are trying to install onto.. USB anything..
[21:56] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, nope, standard drive
[21:56] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, actually, Ubuntu won't mount any of my windows formatted drives
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: You say works fine in windows and pclos.. yet you say there is nothing on it and is not formatted, so how can you know it is working
[21:56] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, I never said it was not formatted
[21:56] <Rezagrats> Bye thanks for the help
[21:57] <Jorge_> I said there was no OS on it
[21:57] <Jowi> Rezagrats, you should create 1 partition named / (root) of type ext3 which will contain your system. it should be minimum 3GB (I would recommend 6GB). create 1 partition of type swap minimum 512MB. Optionally but recommeded - create 1 partition named /home (will contain all user data) as big as you think you need.
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Jorge_: Someone else can help you out..
[21:58] <Jorge_> jack_sparrow, thanks.
[21:59] <angasule> is there any program to convert .lit to pdf or html?
[22:00] <khamael> angasule: tried googling it?
[22:01] <angasule> khamael: of course, I only found some program that convert to open ebook, which mozilla will open, but I can't use mozilla
[22:02] <Palthron> Question : In Linux-NTFS.org, it says "The ntfs-3g driver is an obsolete fork of ntfsmount. Use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs-2.0.0 instead.". Does this means I have to replace my NTFS-3G? I couldn't find it in the repository.
[22:02] <anthony> Hi, where do I set what compiz fusion stuff happens when I touch the corners of the screen? Thanks from Malta.
[22:02] <tomasso> any xml validator command line for linux that accepts a dtd or a schema ?
[22:03] <sjoerd> tomasso: xmllint
[22:03] <tomasso> thanx
[22:05] <Seveas> xmlvacuumcleaner to get rid of the xmllint
[22:06] <foug> where is the folder for pidgin located? I need to copy my logs
[22:06] <Jowi> Anyone know if two "screen"s can be used within the same "screen" split horizontally?
[22:07] <Jowi> talking of course of the "screen" package. not the physical screen/monitor
[22:07] <afkk> i'm trying to run a ventrilo server, when i do ./vent_srv & it runs fine but as soon as i close the ssh connection the process is killed
[22:08] <Jowi> afkk, nohup can work
[22:08] <afkk> sorry, idk what that means =/
[22:08] <dusty-sts> What is a good piece of software to take pictures using a webcam ( I have the webcam working ) ?
[22:09] <Jowi> afkk, nohup is a command. in a terminal: nohup command [args]
[22:09] <foug> where is the folder for pidgin located? I need to copy my logs
[22:09] <afkk> perfect, thanks jowi
[22:10] <Palthron> foug : I see it in /usr/lib/pdgin but no log. Maybe because i don't log my conv.
[22:10] <Jowi> afkk, however most servers should be located in /etc/init.d/ and started with "sudo /etc/init.d/command start" (ssh works like that)
[22:10] <K-Burke> ubotu compilekernel
[22:10] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:10] <aaaaaaa_> dfsdf
[22:10] <foug> Palthron: hmm, i don't see a log in there either
[22:11] <afkk> Jowi: i thought running things like a vent server as root was not a good idea
[22:11] <Rodya> .keave
[22:11] <naxa> hi, is there a way to play chess over internet between an ubuntu computer and a windows computer?
[22:11] <HigRelyGuy> how do I register?
[22:11] <Jowi> afkk, I have never used ventrilo so I take your word for it.
[22:11] <Pici> !register | HigRelyGuy
[22:11] <ubotu> HigRelyGuy: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:11] <foug> Palthron: ahh, it's under home/.purple/logs/aim/user     .. weird
[22:12] <Optimus55> hey i have a question. I run a dual boot with gutsy and vista (on a separate partition), i want to reinstall vista but i think it will overwrite my grub and not let me boot back into linux, how can i prevent this?
[22:12] <Flannel> !grub | Optimus55
[22:12] <ubotu> Optimus55: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:12] <Flannel> Optimus55: you cant, you just have to reinstall grub afterwards (first link)
[22:13] <Optimus55> Flannel: thnnx man
[22:13] <foug> is anyone here familar with audacious?
[22:14] <fl42> hi foug, I am working sometimes with audacious -- yes
[22:14] <Optimus55> Flannel: ultimate boot cd has a tool to do a mbr backup. If i do a backup then resotore after the reinstall, will that possibly work?
[22:15] <foug> fl42: i was wondering where EQ presets wre saved too
[22:15] <afkk> with the top command, how do i scroll down or view the processes that aren't on screen
[22:15] <fl42> I don't know this, sorry.
[22:15] <foug> afkk: i don't think you can, try ps aux i think
[22:16] <foug> fl42: no problem
[22:16] <Flannel> Optimus55: Probably.  When we say "Reinstall grub" we mean reinstall the MBR bit only.
[22:16] <Palthron> foug : purple is a plugin that maybe handle the Pidgin logging. EQ : If you want to backup the EQ settings, it is easier to save it using the EQ preset menu
[22:16] <WNxCryptic> I'm trying to setup a dev server for PHP and ASP.net in Ubuntu Server 7.1
[22:16] <KNY> is anyone able to give me an estimate on how long it takes to resize a 70-gig partition?
[22:16] <WNxCryptic> For accessing / transfering files onto the server, Samba would be an appropriate program, correct?
[22:16] <foug> Palthron: well it doesn't tell me where they are saved too, i went to "save as file" and saved it that wya, is that good enough?
[22:17] <KNY> WNxCryptic, that or NFS or FTP or SFTP
[22:17] <Palthron> foug : Preset - Save to file ---- it would direct you to a directory list you can choose
[22:17] <WNxCryptic> KNY: Not long, guided partitioning would take between 15 and 25 minutes depending on the system.
[22:17] <foug> Palthron: got'cha, thanks
[22:17] <WNxCryptic> KNY: which is the easiest to setup/configure?
[22:17] <KNY> WNxCryptic, manual
[22:17] <KNY> WNxCryptic, FTP
[22:18] <KNY> you said an ubuntu server, right?
[22:18] <WNxCryptic> KNY: if you know what you're doing it would probably still take about the same time. Guided just auto-partitions your boot and swap.
[22:18] <WNxCryptic> KNY: correct.
[22:18] <KNY> just install the vsftpd package
[22:18] <Flannel> WNxCryptic: ftp or scp (setting up ssh is easier, as far as I'm concerned)
[22:18] <KNY> then a touch of configuration (few lines) and you're good to go
[22:19] <WNxCryptic> Flannel: I have SSH already setup. I need a good file transfer though, I like working with the console, but not that much.
[22:19] <ipzim> What do you need to install in order to get MySQL working?
[22:19] <Flannel> WNxCryptic: What OS you using for the transfer?
[22:19] <KNY> WNxCryptic, just sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[22:19] <WNxCryptic> KNY: thanks
[22:19] <WNxCryptic> Flannel: Windows XP Pro SP2
[22:19] <KNY> ipzim, mysql server or client?
[22:19] <KNY> WNxCryptic, no problem. let me know if you need help with the config
[22:19] <ipzim> KNY: Server
[22:19] <Flannel> WNxCryptic: Filezilla does SCP now as well, so thats a GUI transfer, for both ftp/scp/etc etc
[22:19] <ipzim> mysql-server?
[22:19] <ipzim> KnifeHat:  mysql-server?
[22:19] <RenatoSilva> What are backport updates?
[22:20] <ipzim> KNY:   mysql-server?
[22:20] <KNY> ipzim, I think that's it, yeah
[22:20] <WNxCryptic> Flannel: SCP?
[22:21] <KNY> ipzim, might want phpmyadmin as well, depending on how you are with command lines
[22:21] <WNxCryptic> KNY: I'm having a different problem with setting up my server to take a static IP address.
[22:21] <Kassah> my mic seems to be really quiet in Linux.... is there a way to adjust Mic Gain?
[22:21] <Flannel> WNxCryptic: file transfer over SSH
[22:21] <julian_> hey can some one help me when ever i but ubuntu i dont have a splash screen
[22:21] <WNxCryptic> Flannel: Oh, I see. I'll take a look at that as well.
[22:22] <WNxCryptic> Well, anyone who can help me w/ a simple static ip setup: here goes.
[22:22] <ipzim> KNY:  Been using linux for decade. :)
[22:22] <WNxCryptic> I'm following the guide here: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p3
[22:22] <WNxCryptic> To setup a static ip address for my dev server.
[22:22] <KNY> WNxCryptic, I've never done that, sorry
[22:22] <KNY> I just config it on my router
[22:23] <WNxCryptic> hmmm...nevermind. I think I'm just going to configure it all on my router as well.
[22:23] <julian_> hey can some one help me when ever i but ubuntu i dont have a splash screen
[22:23] <julian_> hey can some one help me when ever i but ubuntu i dont have a splash screen
[22:23] <FactTech> Quickie question: Does anyone know where I can report updated monitor specifications for automatically-configured /etc/X11/xorg.conf files? I have a monitor that only has lower resolutions enabled by default, but the manufacturer specs allow higher resolutions and they can be safely enabled.
[22:24] <FactTech> I'd like to report the data so that others don't have to hunt it down.
[22:25] <julian_> hey can some one help me when ever i but ubuntu i dont have a splash screen
[22:25] <fabeffex> Salve
[22:25] <fabeffex> hi
[22:25] <WNxCryptic> KNY // Flannel : Thanks for the help. I'll catch you gusy later.
[22:25] <KNY> later
[22:25] <WNxCryptic> guys*
[22:25] <FactTech> julian Did you check your boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[22:26] <tomasso> i wanna pass the output of a program to another program is that valid ? for ex: prog file.txt | doSomething --options
[22:26] <KNY> I resized the main partition, and I now have a 26GB one where I'm looking to set as /, but the only option I see is [New partition table] and [Undo changes to partitions]
[22:26] <billy> Is flashplugin-nonfree broken?
[22:26] <julian_> FactTech, yes i have looked their but i dont know what to check for their
[22:26] <RenatoSilva> What are backport updates?
[22:26] <Flannel> billy: yes
[22:26] <KNY> tomasso, that will do it
[22:26] <PriceChild> billy, /topic
[22:26] <portablejim> anybody running 64bit?
[22:26] <billy> oh right
[22:26] <delphiuk> can someone help me with a 6.06 upgrade problem? I have an output if you need to see it?
[22:27] <Flannel> delphiuk: Whats the problem?
[22:27] <KNY> delphiuk, just state the problem
[22:27] <FactTech> julian You want to look at the various entries to see what they say. At the end of the line, you can add the option "splash" to get a splash screen.
[22:27] <FactTech> julian If the "nosplash" option is on the line, I think you'd have to remove that.
[22:28] <PriceChild> Where does pidgin store logs when its told to?
[22:28] <delphiuk> OK, when upgrading, I get the following error (after issuing aptitude upgrade):The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:28] <delphiuk>   apache2-common: Depends: apache2-utils (= 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.2) but 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 is installed and it is kept back.
[22:28] <FactTech> julian The line you're looking for starts with "kernel"...
[22:28] <julian_> FactTech, ok i will look for nosplash but can you give me an example of a line i would put splashon
[22:28] <RenatoSilva> What are backport updates?
[22:28] <julian_> ok
[22:28] <biggahed> PriceChild, ~/.purple/logs/
[22:28] <PriceChild> !backports | renatofilho^
[22:28] <ubotu> renatofilho^: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[22:28] <julian_> FactTech, i will look for the line that says kernel
[22:29] <julian_> FactTech, thanks
[22:29] <PriceChild> biggahed, now see that's what I thought.... :P I guess I'll see why its not logging when I told it to :P
[22:29] <ipzim> KNY: I get >> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ?
[22:29] <FactTech> julian It will look like "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-(numbers here)-generic root=UUID=(long code here) ro quiet splash"
[22:29] <biggahed> PriceChild, Good luck with that :)
[22:29] <FactTech> julian Only yours would be missing the "splash" part and may have other keywords.
[22:29] <PriceChild> Thanks bigfuzzyjesus
[22:29] <PriceChild> gah
[22:29] <PriceChild> THanks biggahed
[22:29] <Flannel> delphiuk: Do a dist-upgrade
[22:30] <tarv443> anyone use w3m in console? how do I enable inline images (w3m-img is installed)?
[22:30] <FactTech> julian You may have to update each boot entry you want it to apply to.
[22:30] <ipzim> Whenever I tried installing "mysql-server" .. I get >> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) , How do I fix this?
[22:30] <julian_> FactTech, yea i just checked and it does have splash on the right line already
[22:31] <FactTech> julian ... and there's not a "nosplash" entry?
[22:31] <FactTech> julian ... and you're sure that's the line you booted from?
[22:31] <delphiuk> Flannel: Interesting.. performing dist-upgrade now (I hadn't thought of that)
[22:31] <julian_> FactTech, this is what my line says: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=407b146a-2116-4c8c-9745-92fba881bfd3 ro quiet splash vga=791
[22:31] <ipzim> Whenever I tried installing "mysql-server" .. I get >> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) , How do I fix this?
[22:32] <Flannel> delphiuk: If that fixes it, I'm stumpted as to why it happened.  Since I dont see any dependency changes in -utils
[22:32] <FactTech> julian That's pretty much how they look. Are you seeing a bunch of status-type text going across the screen when you boot up, or are you just getting a blank screen?
[22:32] <julian_> FactTech, yes that is by far the line i boot from the only other one is recovery and a memory test
[22:32] <julian_> FactTech, blank screen
[22:32] <chazco> Does anyone know how to make Ubuntu offer a bluetooth serial service?
[22:32] <delphiuk> Flannel: I have two 6.06 servers with "similar" problems :(
[22:33] <FactTech> julian Well, shoot. I haven't run into that problem and I'm not much of an expert. You could try looking for a control panel to handle splash screens.
[22:33] <FactTech> julian Sounds like the boot line is trying to do the right thing but it's just not getting the right response.
[22:33] <julian_> yea that would make it easier do you know of any
[22:33] <FactTech> julian Are you using plain Ubuntu or a variant?
[22:33] <Flannel> delphiuk: Do you have the security repository enabled? (I'm almost certain you would)
[22:33] <julian_> FactTech, plain ubuntu
[22:33] <PriceChild> biggahed, restarting pidgin fixed things
[22:33] <delphiuk> Flannel: yes, on both servers
[22:34] <julian_> FactTech, gutsy
[22:34] <FactTech> julian I think there is a splash screen manager of some sort.
[22:34] <FactTech> julian Hold a sec...
[22:34] <julian_> FactTech, okay
[22:34] <FactTech> julian Has it always been blank or recently started being blank?
[22:34] <Flannel> delphiuk: This is a recent update?
[22:34] <julian_> FactTech, i believe always and now i am trying to fix it
[22:35] <FactTech> julian Take a peek here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19609
[22:35] <Palthron> julian : maybe wrong directory? /boot/gtub/menu.lst
[22:35] <delphiuk> Yeah, well, I haven't done an update upgrade for a while, actually, about 2 months.
[22:35] <FactTech> julian It seems there's an updated GNOME configuration you have to enable for gutsy.
[22:35] <KNY> I just made a 26GB partition using the live CD but it's marked "unusable" -- why is that?
[22:35] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: do u use delphi?
[22:35] <Flannel> delphiuk: Hmm, Ive already got it.  Alright, you know how to pastebin, right?
[22:36] <whitegulls> hey, does anyone know the proper command to change a pvr-150 (using ivtv drivers) to the composite-in?  i can't find any ones that work on gutsy.
[22:36] <julian_> FactTech, thanks i am going to try that and see if it works
[22:36] <delphiuk> RenatoSilva: Yes :)
[22:36] <FactTech> julian Good luck!
[22:36] <delphiuk> Flannel: No, sorry I don't.
[22:37] <echosa> does anyone use emms inside of emacs?
[22:37] <Flannel> delphiuk: alright, its easy enough.  Go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , paste the stuff, hit "paste!" then come back and give me the URL.  Its the alternative to posting 30 lines to the channel and stuff.
[22:37] <ketrox> hi after upgrade from feisty to gutsy  i get Kernel panic -not syncing VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) booting the old kernel works
[22:37] <debiani386> evening everyone
[22:37] <Flannel> delphiuk: Pastebin the output of the following: apt-cache policy apache2-common apache2-utils
[22:38] <miccet> list
[22:38] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, will do, 2 mins..
[22:38] <whitegulls> no one knows how to change to composite?
[22:38] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: which?
[22:38] <tarv443> anyone use w3m in fb console? how do I enable inline images (w3m-img is installed and images works fine in X)?
[22:38] <ipzim> Whenever I tried installing "mysql-server" .. I get >> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) , How do I fix this?
[22:39] <delphiuk> RenatoSilva: Delphi 7
[22:39] <angasule> tarv443: sorry, I don't know, I use links2 on the fb
[22:39] <debiani386> im sorry i just logged on, if your talking about display, whitegulls, i can help
[22:39] <debiani386> its in the xorg file
[22:39] <tarv443> angasule: links2 display images?
[22:39] <miccet> i just got module conflicts when installing the latest kernel with madwifi-ng. basically, is there a way to remove the /lib/modules/2.x folder and install all those modules again for the current kernel?
[22:39] <whitegulls> debiani386 - no, it's a pvr-150 using the ivtv driver.  video in.
[22:39] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: did you buy? how much?
[22:40] <Shane`> miccet, i had the same problem
[22:40] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: I've stopped on D7 and think it's the better
[22:40] <debiani386> white >> oh ok im sry
[22:40] <Shane`> i eventually gave up.
[22:40] <Shane`> and went to ethernet.
[22:40] <miccet> with madwifi as well?
[22:40] <Shane`> yeah
[22:40] <miccet> haha that's what I'm on now
[22:40] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: I like very much of Delphi, but D7 is not for sale here so....
[22:40] <afkk> once i do nohup ./myprog how do i get back to the prompt without killing the process
[22:40] <debiani386> wow i like how irc gives away the ip of those who have just connected :P lol i should break out nmap JKJKJKJKJK
[22:40] <delphiuk> RenatoSilva: I can't remember to be honest. It wasn't cheap, but it was essential :)
[22:40] <miccet> must be some way to restore the modules though?
[22:41] <angasule> tarv443: yes, links2 (when started with -g ) is a graphical browser in the framebuffer
[22:41] <delphiuk> Flannel: Still waiting for my dist-upgrade to download
[22:41] <wigliam> hi
[22:41] <julian_> FactTech, i think that fixed it
[22:41] <tarv443> angasule: cheers. will have a look
[22:41] <Flannel> delphiuk: Oh, I see.  New kernel and such.
[22:41] <angasule> tarv443: it's pretty good, I use it on a box with 32MB of RAM
[22:42] <Tyczek> is it possible to enabling and disabling laptop mode by key-combination?
[22:42] <delphiuk> Flannel: Yes, looks like new "everything" :)
[22:42] <FactTech> julian Good deal!
[22:43] <Flannel> delphiuk: erm, really?
[22:43] <wigliam> cannot remember how to enable the rolling up window on the mouse wheel
[22:43] <delphiuk> Flannel: Well, more than I thought. It's at 97% so not long :)
[22:43] <echosa> so noone here uses emms that can help clear up some browser issues, eh?
[22:44] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, this will be a "big" post.... 2 mins...
[22:45] <delphiuk> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50774/
[22:45] <kbdman> oh
[22:46] <tarv443> angasule: no go. get errors about not being able to open /dev/tty0
[22:47] <toni_> how to reduce tty on ubuntu? i  miss the inittab :)
[22:47] <delphiuk> RenatoSila: What version are you running?
[22:48] <diafic> Arr.
[22:48] <Dude-X> i am having trouble getting cisco's vpnclient working under ubuntu x64 7.10 as a vmware guest under vista x64 host. i was able to successfully build the client but when i try to execute vpnclient, bash responds file not found
[22:48] <Flannel> delphiuk: Alright, can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy apache2-common apache2-utils ?
[22:48] <diafic> The ubuntu splash for 7.10 is missing on both my laptops. Its a black screen which is a bit disconcerting. Where the heck has it gone?
[22:49] <wigliam> diafic me too...i've an hp pavillion
[22:49] <delphiuk> Flannel: shall I paste is as a response?
[22:49] <Schuenemann> hey, I just deleted a file... is there any reasonable way to retrieve it?
[22:49] <toni_> Schuenemann, with rm?
[22:50] <Flannel> delphiuk: Doesn't matter, what ever is easiest.  They both make new URLs
[22:50] <RenatoSilva> delphiuk: I made a users control component
[22:50] <delphiuk> Flannel: :) OK, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50775/
[22:51] <Schuenemann> toni_, shift del
[22:51] <Schuenemann> toni_, which calls rm, I believe
[22:51] <tarv443> angasule: solved it. needed to install gpm (why get warning about tty0 when all is needed is a mouse... who knows ;))
[22:51] <toni_> Schuenemann, i suppose it's lost forever
[22:51] <diafic> wigliam, I find it the same on 7.10 64 bit on this acer and 7.10 32 bit for my thinkpad
[22:52] <Schuenemann> toni_, of course not, it can be recovered... I just wanna know how
[22:53] <Biohazard> diafic: me too. on both my laptop and my desktop
[22:53] <diafic> So what the hell, dudes. Whats going on?
[22:53] <toni_> Schuenemann, when you now tell me :)
[22:53] <Flannel> delphiuk: well, everythign looks normal on the second one.  The first paste however is some cause for concern.  Some of those errors are odd at least.  Is this an older harddrive?
[22:54] <diafic> Biohazard, wigliam: Do you have ATI cards?
[22:54] <delphiuk> Flannel: Yes, it is not a new machine, for sure.
[22:54] <diafic> My acer has a 200M and a radion 7000 in the thinkpad
[22:54] <Kal> Hmm, where are the compiz options/import etc in gutsy? (I'm used to having to install Beryl in earlier releases)
[22:55] <lusepuster> Kal, install compizconfig settings manager, if that is what you are asking for
[22:55] <Flannel> delphiuk: Looks like a filesystem issue, could be hardware, or software based.  Recommend making backups of whatever data you've got on there (since if we reboot to fsck, we might not come back), and then we'll see if we cant fix it.
[22:55] <Biohazard> diafic: X300 in my desktop but my notebook is form dell with a intel
[22:55] <diafic> Hmm
[22:55] <Biohazard> *from
[22:55] <Kal> lusepuster: Aah ok, not installed by default :)
[22:56] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, one point I would say is that this machine is shutdown and started on ad daily basis?
[22:56] <Biohazard> diafic: but i got a solution. just never shut it down :)
[22:56] <Schuenemann> hey, I just deleted a file... is there any reasonable way to retrieve it?
[22:57] <Flannel> delphiuk: Interesting.  Well, with the broken upgrades, we may have aggrivated it anyway.  But you certainly have some larger issue here, which we're seeing symptoms of in the non-upgrading apache
[22:57] <reckahomis1> there is someone who speak frech here ?
[22:57] <Flannel> !fr | reckahomis1
[22:57] <ubotu> reckahomis1: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:58] <reckahomis1> je veux configurer la carte son sur ubuntu
[22:58] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, would you mind assisting me with the "other" server 6.06 issue that I have?
[22:58] <reckahomis1> jusquà mnr j'ai pas arrivé au solution
[22:58] <mneptok> reckahomis1: STP, #ubuntu-fr ou #ubuntu-qc
[22:59] <Flannel> delphiuk: Sure, no problem.  Also, with this one, what you'll do is `sudo touch /forcefsck` and then reboot.  That'll force a fsck of everything on next boot.  Which will (hopefully) fix whatever FS issues are present
[22:59] <Aztec007> hey guys, anyone here know of any IRC channels for "Beyond the Red Line" multiplayer game?
[22:59] <x-X-x> i need help im getting pink blocks when playing a wmv 9 video
[23:00] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, will do that now: Here is another paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50776/
[23:00] <x-X-x> u can see the picture but there are pink blocks all over the place
[23:00] <kitche> x-X-x: sounds like it's drm
[23:00] <reckahomis1> i visited this forum but i didn't find a goods anwers
[23:00] <x-X-x> drm?
[23:00] <brokenFUN> whenever i play a WMV i get booted out of my login. i got compiz
[23:00] <delphiuk> Flannel: machine 1 is currently re-booting :)
[23:01] <vidd_> hello can someone give me the wget line to overwrite a bad pubkey for apt
[23:02] <mikebot> When I click on my applications menu nothing comes up. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:04] <vidd_> i was able to find info on other distros, but not ununtu
[23:05] <vidd_> can anyone help?
[23:05] <Flannel> delphiuk: this has the exact same error.  Just in fewer places.  Very odd.  Did you say... lose power or something recently?  Something that may have affected both boxes similarly.
[23:05] <mikebot> Anyone?
[23:05] <tom__> what's the problem?
[23:05] <vidd_> my pubkey for apt is corrupted
[23:05] <delphiuk> Flannel: No, both servers are.... in different "countries" :)
[23:06] <lee_> hi
[23:06] <vidd_> is there a way to wget it and restore it?
[23:06] <modoc> What is the default email server on gutsy?
[23:06] <Flannel> delphiuk: Oh, nice.  Um, well, I'm at a loss completey.
[23:06] <mikebot> Does anyone know about why my Applications menu won't show when I click it?
[23:06] <rodolfo> mikebot: did that happen after you installed some app?
[23:06] <brokenFUN> mikebot: wait in line like everyone else
[23:07] <brokenFUN> on need to spam
[23:07] <mikebot> brokenFUN: Was unaware that there was a line.
[23:07] <PurpZeY> There is a line?
[23:07] <mikebot> rodolfo: No, I haven't.
[23:07] <gyaresu> pft... line...
[23:07]  * Pelo now serving number 125823
[23:07] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Are you running compiz?
[23:07] <Flannel> delphiuk: Unless you've done something similar to both of them, that may have messed with permissions or something similarly abnormal.
[23:07] <x-X-x>  im trying to play a wmv 9 video and it plays sound and all but there are pink blocks all over the video, you can still see the moving images but the blocks stay and are erased if a part of the video is moving. anyone know whats going on ?
[23:08] <PurpZeY> x-X-x: What media player?
[23:08] <gyaresu> x-X-x: Got codecs installed?
[23:08] <Palthron> x-X-x : What codecs and player?
[23:08] <Pelo> x-X-x, do you have all the gstreamer0.10 installed ?  the wmv might just be bad
[23:08] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Don't know what that is.
[23:08] <tom__> have you edized the files?
[23:08] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Desktop effects
[23:08] <delphiuk> Flannel: no, nothing. they are both "production" servers, so I have kept to the standard
[23:08] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Oh, I think I am.
[23:08] <x-X-x> all players vlc, xine media player, media player xine backend , mplayer
[23:08] <linuxperson11> my boot screen dosnt show up
[23:09] <Flannel> delphiuk: Well, I'm sorry to say I can't offer anything else.
[23:09] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Took it off and still doesn't show.
[23:09] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Hit alt + f2 then type "metacity --replace" see if that fixes it, then we can turn compiz back on
[23:09] <vidd_> no, i juyst ran apt-get update and get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:09] <PurpZeY> mikebot: no ""s
[23:09]  * Pelo waves hello to IndyGunFreak , and waits for nickrud to show up so the party can begin 
[23:09] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: how goes it, I've been absent for a bit.
[23:09] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Still nothing.
[23:09] <gyaresu> vidd_: Sounds like you're missing the public key for just one application. Have you added a line to sources.list for something (maybe wine etc.)?
[23:10] <linuxperson11> anyone no how to  make the boot screen show up propperly?
[23:10] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, I havenT' been around all that much these days either,  holiday work schedule and all that
[23:10] <IndyGunFreak> yup, same here
[23:10] <linuxperson11> mine just stays blank till login
[23:10] <mikebot> PurpZeY: If this helps, the Places and System menus work, and when I click on Applications I see a /very/ small change, but that's it.
[23:10] <x-X-x> pelo palthron gyaresu purpZeY: all players vlc, xine media player, media player xine backend , mplayer
[23:10] <vidd_> i get it repeatedly....
[23:10] <delphiuk> Flannel: OK, thanks for your help
[23:10] <vidd_> i triied apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg but same result
[23:10] <Pelo> linuxperson11,  you mean the grub menu background or the usplash with the "now loading" bar ?
[23:10] <gyaresu> vidd_: You didn't google the key did you?
[23:10] <vidd_> yes....
[23:10] <Palthron> x-X-x : Reinstall codecs?
[23:10] <linuxperson11> the loading bar
[23:10] <gyaresu> vidd_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/24061
[23:11] <PurpZeY> mikebot: That did nothing?
[23:11] <Pelo> x-X-x,  ther are different versions of wmv ,  some just donT' work
[23:11] <x-X-x> palthron how ?
[23:11] <tarv443> linuxperson11: perhaps try to set the framebuffer...
[23:11] <_mug> is there a website explaining the !-commands in this chan? or a list maybe?
[23:11] <vidd_> i found info on other distro's, but not ubuntu =/
[23:11] <Pelo> linuxperson11, what is the issue with it ?
[23:11] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Correct. Do you want a screenshot of the small change>
[23:11] <linuxperson11> it just dosnt show
[23:11] <linuxperson11> only shows black
[23:11] <linuxperson11> till login
[23:11] <Pelo> _mug,  /msg ubotu ubotu
[23:11] <Palthron> x-X-x : Using Synaptic Package Manager, reinstall gstreamer
[23:12] <tom__> wait a moment ..
[23:12] <Pelo> linuxperson11, check the grub menu.lst file and see if you splash in the line to boot the kernel you are using
[23:12] <_mug> Pelo: thx
[23:12] <linuxperson11> k
[23:12] <tarv443> linuxperson11: to try it, when grub shows. press E key to edit the grub line. Select the kernel line and press E again. type in vga=791 and press enter. Then press B to boot. This is a temporary solution to see if it works.
[23:12] <Pelo> _mug, as far as I know they're not all there
[23:12] <PurpZeY> mikebot: No, as long as it made some changes.....
[23:12] <linuxperson11> brb
[23:12] <vidd_> gyaresu, that is nothing at all like my issue
[23:12] <diafic> I've got a card with an Atmel at76c50x. I get massive packet loss from it. Its a 802.11b card. I also have 802.11g devices in the area. Advice?
[23:12] <modoc> so, does anyone know what the default email server is on gutsy?
[23:12] <vidd_> i have a headless server....
[23:12] <vidd_> update-manager isnt even installed on it
[23:12] <Pelo> modoc, sendmail ?
[23:13] <mikebot> PurpZeY: No, what you said had no effect, but like when I click on Applications I see like a 2x2 pixel box in the top left corner.
[23:13] <modoc> Pelo, I don't see sendmail, postfix or exim installed.
[23:13] <Pelo> modoc, should be the same as in all the previous versions,  open up synaptic,  search for mail and see what is installed
[23:13] <PurpZeY> mikebot: That command should have a noticeable effect
[23:13] <vidd_> is there noplace to wget the pubkey for apt?
[23:14] <kitche> vidd_: yeah but depends on the repo
[23:14] <Pelo> !upgrade | vidd_ is this what you want ?
[23:14] <ubotu> vidd_ is this what you want ?: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:14] <PurpZeY> mikebot: window borders should look different...etc.
[23:14] <mikebot> PurpZeY: I mean, the screen flashed but no change with the menu.
[23:14] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Oh, also, when I right click > edit menus it says `starting main menu' but nothing opens.
[23:14] <linuxperson11> which file do i check
[23:14] <gyaresu> vidd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[23:15] <Pelo> linuxperson11, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:15] <linuxperson11> and where in it do i chek
[23:15] <earthrealsound> hey can tell my the german ubuntu room
[23:15] <Flannel> earthrealsound: #ubuntu-de
[23:16] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Sounds like you annoyed your menus
[23:16] <Pelo> linuxperson11, scroll down to where the lines aren't mostly commented out with # ,  that should be where the actualy menu item listing start,  check the long command line, toward the end, look for the word splash
[23:16] <mikebot> PurpZeY: :( ... I don't recall doing anything.. is there a solution?
[23:16] <tom__> vidd: reinstall ubuntu-keyring
[23:17] <linuxperson11> nothing splash there
[23:17] <PurpZeY> mikebot: I imagine there is...I don't know it...it seems like a rather esoteric problem though
[23:17] <Pelo> linuxperson11, hold on
[23:17] <gyaresu> tom__: vidd_ Really? Keyring broken? Is that an educated guess?
[23:17] <linuxperson11> wait
[23:17] <Pelo> linuxperson11, pastebin it so I can have a look
[23:17] <Enselic> I am connected through vncviewer to the desktop of a friend of mine. For some reason I can't open his nautilus, though I can for example open gnome-terminals just fine. Any ideas of what might be wrong?
[23:17] <Pelo> !pastebin | linuxperson11
[23:17] <ubotu> linuxperson11: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:17] <linuxperson11> it says quiet splash
[23:18] <Schuenemann> hey, I just deleted a file... is there any reasonable way to retrieve it?
[23:18] <vidd_> gyaresu, nice read...but there is NO UBUNTU info....all the keys in the examples are debian...so no dice there either
[23:18] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Can I reset the menus or anything? Like that alt+backspace thing?
[23:18] <earthrealsound> wie wechselt man hier nen channel ?
[23:18] <PurpZeY> !ger
[23:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:18] <Schuenemann> we left
[23:18] <Pelo> linuxperson11, that should be ok then,   close that file down and look in synaptic see if you ahve usplash installed
[23:18] <Schuenemann> he*
[23:18] <Pelo> earthrealsound, /join #ubuntu-de
[23:19] <linuxperson11> k
[23:19] <vidd_> tom__, how do i reinstall the keyring?
[23:19] <Schuenemann> !de | earthrealsound
[23:19] <ubotu> earthrealsound: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[23:19] <jeska> hey guys, I was aroudn earlier but still having issues. does anyone know what the deal is with VMWare Player and 7.10?
[23:19] <x-X-x> palthron : nope i reinstall everything with the name gstreamer and everything with the name xine and still nothing.
[23:19] <tom__> vidd_ you can reinstall "ubuntu-keyring" via aptitude
[23:19] <_mug> Schuenemann: maybe its in the trash can to the lower right of your screen
[23:19] <heartsblood> Awhile back I installed esd so that I could get my 'mouse over previews' from mp3s.  But ever since it's been fighting with alsa for dominance.  For example I can only have 1 sound source play at once now.  How do I remove esd?
[23:19] <Pelo> jeska, you need a better question
[23:19] <PurpZeY> mikebot: I know a little bit about a bunch of things...it seems like there'd be an easy fix for that, but I just dont know what it is
[23:19] <Schuenemann> _mug, nope... I used shift + del. Sorry, forgot to say that
[23:19] <gyaresu> vidd_: The key is there. It's a generic keyserver.
[23:20] <Schuenemann> isn't there an undelete?
[23:20] <Pelo> heartsblood, you need mpeg123 and/or mpeg321
[23:20] <kitche> heartsblood: same way you installed it but esd is just a sound daemon it can use alsa or oss or any other sound driver/daemon
[23:20] <Pelo> heartsblood, nvm I didn'T finish reading your question
[23:20] <_mug> Schuenemann: dunno.. if you find an answer plz tell me :)
[23:20] <PurpZeY> Schuenemann: Shft + del passes over undelete, as far as I understand it....Maybe it's just me.
[23:20] <gyaresu> vidd_:  gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:20] <mikebot> PurpZeY: OK, well, thanksf or your help!
[23:20] <jeska> well, it was deleted when I made the upgrade, and I'm trying to perform the reinstall. It is saying I need to delete vmmon and vmnet modules, but I'm wondering if this is a futile attempt because I read that Player does not work after the upgrade to 7.10
[23:20] <Pelo> Schuenemann, shift-del is prettty final
[23:21] <__mikem> Schuenemann: the trash can was your undelete mechanism, by holding down shift you insured that you can't get it back, thank you and have a nice day
[23:21] <gyaresu> vidd_: gpg -a --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[23:21] <Schuenemann> files aren't deleted, they just have their positions marked as free... it is possible to retrieve
[23:21] <linuxperson11> usplash is installed
[23:21] <Pelo> jeska, I can't answer you don that maybe you need to ask in #vmware
[23:21] <PurpZeY> Schuenemann: So retrieve it
[23:21] <heartsblood> kitche: problem is I dont know what post it was that had the fix for the mouse over previews in 7.10.
[23:21] <__mikem> Schuenemann: as long as you didn't save anything since then, yes
[23:21] <__mikem> but you need special software
[23:21] <jeska> mkay, thanks
[23:21] <Pelo> linuxperson11, please use my nick when talking to me, it helps me notice you ,  and try reinstalling it
[23:22] <linuxperson11> how do i use ur nickname
[23:22] <Pelo> linuxperson11, see how I type your nick in each line adressed to you ?
[23:22] <vidd_> gyaresu, it didnt work...so i ran it again: this is what i got:  key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" not changed
[23:22] <gyaresu> linuxperson11: Start typing someones name and use the TAB button to auto-complete it.
[23:23] <linuxperson11> k
[23:23] <Pelo> gyaresu, my nick is 4 letters,  he can manage without nick complete
[23:23] <RyanPrior> How do I enable MP3 encoding in Amarok?
[23:23] <gyaresu> vidd_: Dude. You've got to use the right key. Not the one in the example.
[23:23] <gyaresu> Pelo: Useful info for talking to others though.
[23:23] <vidd_> what the heck do you think im TRYING TO DO?????????????????????
[23:23] <Pelo> RyanPrior, installe lame and all the gstreamer0.10 packages
[23:24] <gyaresu> vidd_: "s what i got:  key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive"
[23:24] <Zeyelth> RyanPrior: libffmpeg-xine (or something like that) works for Amarok.
[23:24] <Pelo> vidd_, please stay calm
[23:24]  * Kal pulls out the fire extinguisher.
[23:24] <linuxperson11> Pelo: im gona restart and see if it works now
[23:24] <Pelo> linuxperson11, best of luck
[23:24] <gyaresu> vidd_: You used the key from the example. Try the exact lines that I posted above.
[23:24] <lesshaste_> hi... is wesnoth available for gutsy? I can't seem to find it
[23:24] <Kozeris> anyone know games over network, ( not lan) , that would be free , and funny, we just played wormux and etc, please pm me, windows, not linux sorry :D
[23:25]  * Pelo 's favorite acconting software channel is dead , he worries 
[23:25] <Kal> frozen bubble is bloody addictive :)
[23:25] <Zeyelth> RyanPrior: libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:25] <vidd_> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[23:25] <lesshaste_> apparently it's supposed to be there
[23:25] <Pelo> lesshaste_, try their website
[23:26] <gyaresu> vidd_: gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:26] <lesshaste_> Pelo, it claims its in universe
[23:26] <Pelo> lesshaste_, enable all the repos
[23:26] <RyanPrior> Zeyelth: I'm using gstreamer though.
[23:26] <Kal> Kozeris, frozen bubble :)
[23:26] <gigamo> Kozeris: try TeeWars
[23:26] <gyaresu> vidd_: You ran exactly that?
[23:26] <randomshadowbmg> can linux write ntfs now?
[23:26] <gigamo> it can :P
[23:26] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | randomshadowbmg
[23:26] <Soskel> can anyone help me keep a mirror up to date without resync?
[23:26] <ubotu> randomshadowbmg: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[23:26] <Kozeris> gigamo ok we gonna try
[23:26] <randomshadowbmg> ok, i have hd movies
[23:26] <randomshadowbmg> and i want linux and vista to be able and write to the partitions
[23:26] <randomshadowbmg> fat32 is limited to 4gb files
[23:27] <Zeyelth> RyanPrior: Ah, right.
[23:27] <vidd_> gyaresu, i missed the one line....
[23:27] <randomshadowbmg> hd movies are like 7gb
[23:27] <vidd_> its working now
[23:27] <gyaresu> vidd_: :)
[23:27] <Pelo> !enter | randomshadowbmg
[23:27] <ubotu> randomshadowbmg: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:27] <heartsblood> I removed esound but I can still can't get more than 1 audio source to play at once
[23:27] <heartsblood> whats going on?
[23:27] <gyaresu> randomshadowbmg: ntfs is fine to work with both OS. Best option you'll have.
[23:27] <|MakubeX|> anyone has got stream server on ubuntu for a ps3 working properly
[23:27] <|MakubeX|> ??
[23:27] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > randomshadowbmg check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[23:27] <vidd_> gyaresu, sorry i lost my temper....
[23:27] <lesshaste_> Pelo, ah.. I didn't have universe enabled it seems :(
[23:27] <lesshaste_> thanks
[23:27] <gyaresu> vidd_: No probs.
[23:27] <Dagaka> Anyone know if its possible to use a WG511 (prism54) wireless card with FreeDOS?
[23:27] <vidd_> been gggogling this thing for hours
[23:27] <Pelo> lesshaste_, congrats
[23:27] <lesshaste_> yes ntfs write support is now supported
[23:27] <Pelo> Dagaka, ask in a freedos channel
[23:28] <Drakx_> Has any one managed to get Lexmark X4550 wireless printer to work?
[23:28] <gyaresu> vidd_: Very frustrating, I know. Stupid computers :D
[23:28] <brokenFUN> Whenever i play a WMV i get booted out of my login. i got compiz
[23:28] <vidd_> yeah...they only do exactly what they are told
[23:28] <lesshaste_> Drakx_, have you checked the linux printing site?
[23:28] <x-X-x> whats the best way to format an external drive for use as extra storage for videos  and pictures ? when i use g-parted it ended up formating my drive but it said i didnt not have permission to write to the drive. i did not have this problem in windows when it came to formatting an external drive. btw i want to format it so its ext3. anyone help me ?
[23:28] <Pelo> Drakx_, lexmark printers are not well supported in ubuntu or linux in general you are out of luck,  try google or the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:28] <Dagaka> Pelo: I did but got no answer probably due to not many people being in the channel.
[23:28] <Pelo> brokenFUN, does it happen if you turn off compiz ?
[23:29] <Soskel> can anyone help me keep a mirror up to date without resync?
[23:29] <brokenFUN> no
[23:29] <Soskel> l
[23:29] <vidd_> x-X-x, thats cuzz windows gives you god right to everything
[23:29] <Soskel> k
[23:29] <Drakx_> I already have, I bought it because it was wireless thinking it should be straight forward guess not :\
[23:29] <Pelo> x-X-x, just change the drives owner   sudo chown ....
[23:29] <x-X-x> k
[23:29] <rodolfo> PurpZeY: can i ask you something?
[23:29] <Pelo> Dagaka, try their forum then
[23:30] <vidd_> x-X-x, you need to set the permission lvl to 777 for the entire drive
[23:30] <Soskel> want help please
[23:30] <linuxperson11> Pelo: it didnt work
[23:30] <Pelo> Soskel, need questions
[23:30]  * korosora licks soskel
[23:30] <vidd_> x-X-x, that gives everyone permission to use it
[23:30] <gyaresu> Soskel: What do you mean keep mirror up to date without rsync exactly?
[23:30] <Soskel> awww
[23:30] <lesshaste_> Drakx_, all you can do is email lexmark and complain :(
[23:30] <Pelo> linuxperson11, that's the best I couid do for you, try in the forum , do a search, this has been mentionned before
[23:30] <hendrixski> hey, when I open an app with compiz turned on they're like a few centimeters too high, so like the top bar of it is hidden behind the menubar... how do I reset this?
[23:31] <lesshaste_> Drakx_, unless there is some clever way to use a windows printer driver
[23:31] <Drakx_> lesshaste_: i intend too
[23:31] <linuxperson11> Pelo: ok
[23:31] <lesshaste_> Drakx_, cool
[23:31] <Dagaka> Pelo: Thanks didn't think of the forums!
[23:31] <Soskel> I mean having a mirror stay up to date, without the resync command gyaresu Pelo '
[23:31] <x-X-x> widd_ isnt it 775 ? what the difference ?
[23:31] <Pelo> hendrixski, ask in #compiz-fusion
[23:31] <hendrixski> Pelo, ah, good idea
[23:31] <x-X-x> vidd_*
[23:31] <tarv443> linuxperson11: to try it, when grub shows. press E key to edit the grub line. Select the kernel line and press E again. type in vga=791 and press enter. Then press B to boot. This is a temporary solution to see if it works.
[23:31] <gyaresu> Soskel: What's resync. Don't you mean rsync?
[23:31] <Pelo> Soskel,  if no one here can help try in ##linux
[23:31] <vidd_> x-X-x, you want to be able to plug into another computer and use it, you want 777
[23:32] <gyaresu> Soskel: and if you do mean rsync. Then why would you not want to use it. It's awesome.
[23:32] <Pelo> vidd_, he'll want a FS the other comp can read
[23:32] <x-X-x> kk
[23:32] <x-X-x> thnx
[23:32] <vidd_> x-X-x, so you can read-write-exicute
[23:32] <vidd_> x-X-x, if you dont want any exicute then 775 is fine
[23:32] <linuxperson11> tarv443: will try
[23:33] <olaff> hey all, how do i give a user permission to run a certain command (rails in this case)
[23:33] <Soskel> gyaresu: I do mean rsync
[23:33] <gyaresu> Soskel: And the answer to why not use it?
[23:33] <Pelo> olaff, I think you need to make a group and add users to that group ,  but I am not very savy in the permission dep
[23:33] <Soskel> gyaresu: the server isn't prepared to run it
[23:33] <linuxperson11> tarv443: anyway i can edit that outside of grub?
[23:33] <vidd_> x-X-x, does that help in any way? =]
[23:33] <x-X-x> k thnx guys :D i always find immediate answers on irc
[23:33] <gyaresu> Soskel: Why?
[23:34] <linuxperson11> tarv443: like a .config
[23:34] <hendrixski> Pelo,  ;-( it's one of those quiet channels.  nobody on here knows where the setting for it may be?
[23:34] <Soskel> gyaresu: er.... like, it just isn't
[23:34] <vidd_> x-X-x, you now have 2 paths to take
[23:34] <tarv443> linuxperson11: that's exact. first try it when the grub menu appears like I said. if that works, I can help you make it permanent.
[23:34] <Soskel> can you help me or...?
[23:34] <olaff> thers some command to add the user and group of my choice to the allowed but i cant remember it...
[23:34] <gyaresu> Soskel: Then it sure shouldn't be an apt mirror.
[23:34] <x-X-x> ill take 77
[23:34] <x-X-x> 777
[23:34] <linuxperson11> k
[23:34] <Pelo> hendrixski, not me, I don't do candy
[23:34] <linuxperson11> brb
[23:35] <hendrixski> :-(
[23:35] <Pelo> olaff, try man adduser
[23:35] <olaff> ta Pelo
[23:35] <mikebot> Does anyone know why my Applications menu doesn't open when I click on it, and when I right-click > edit meus, nothign comes up
[23:35] <mikebot> ?
[23:35] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Did you try removing it from the panel and readding it? Just a thought
[23:36] <Pelo> mikebot, check in system > prfs < main menu , see if there is actualy something in there
[23:36] <brokenFUN> pelo: so you know anything?
[23:36] <PurpZeY> And listen to Pelo b/c he knows a lot more than me.
[23:36] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Yea.
[23:36] <mikebot> Pelo: I'll check that, thanks.
[23:36] <olaff> hmm not sure thats it Pelo
[23:36] <Pelo> brokenFUN, about what ?
[23:37] <mikebot> Pelo: That menu isn't opening either.
[23:37] <Shpook> If I want to make a copy of a Windows install CD, will I have any issues if I use K3b?
[23:37] <Pelo> mikebot, right click on the top pannel,  do you get anything ? on a blank area
[23:37] <brokenFUN> pelo: about my problem
[23:37] <mikebot> Pelo: Yea, I get the add to panel, etc. menu.
[23:38] <Pelo> brokenFUN, does it work properly when compiz is turned off ?
[23:38] <tinman> Shpook: i don't think k3b will be issue, if windows has something to prevent you from burning a copy
[23:38] <tinman> that might be a issue
[23:38] <tinman> not sure though
[23:38] <brokenFUN> pelo: yeah it works
[23:38] <Pelo> mikebot,  open a terminal,  type  sudo killall -9 gnome-panel
[23:38] <PurpZeY> Which most likely they do.
[23:38] <mikebot> Pelo: I don't know how to open a terminal without applications menu, hehe.
[23:38] <Pelo> brokenFUN,  then it is a compiz related issue, either turn off compiz or ask in the #compiz-fusion channel for a solution
[23:38] <Pelo> mikebot, alt-f2  and type the line there
[23:39] <mikebot> Pelo: Still nothing.
[23:39] <Shpook> tinman: Well, I know it can easily be done in Windows, but I didn't know if the different filesystems will be a problem.
[23:39] <mikebot> Pelo: But I did see a like flash.
[23:39] <Pelo> mikebot, actulay ,  alt-f2  , type  xterm,  then type the line sudo killall -9 gnome-panel
[23:39] <lesshaste_> Drakx_, take a look at ddiwrapper
[23:39] <Shpook> tinman: Or if CD's use a seperate standard filesystem...I dunno lol
[23:39] <corinth> I have the w32 codecs and dvd codecs installed, but totem won't play dvds :-/. VLC plays them fine.
[23:39] <forsaken> my /var/www has permissions of: ?---------  ? ?    ?        ?                ? www, and i can't delete it as root, anyone know whats up with that?
[23:39] <tinman> Shpook: .iso is burned
[23:39] <doxie> hi... i'm using Xchat and that supports ' /exec command ' for Terminal Commands, is there any way to post the response of the /exec command in the irc?
[23:39] <mikebot> Pelo: Still nothing.
[23:39] <tinman> either you do it in windows or linux :)
[23:39] <g0rb3hy> they dont normaly put copy protection on the install CD's the save that for updates etc
[23:40] <mikebot> Pelo: Oh wait, one second.
[23:40] <FantasticFoo> hey there... according to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Verifying ... if fglrx doesn't seem to be working, and fglrxinfo shows "mesa", it says the solution is to "Remove all the packages provided by the xserver-xorg-video-all meta-package (search for it using Synaptic or Adept)". how would i go about doing this?
[23:40] <Pelo> mikebot, try this,  alt-f2  xkill then click on the top panel
[23:40] <Shpook> tinman: Okay, that answers my question then. Thanks tinman! :-)
[23:40] <gyaresu> Shpook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
[23:40] <PurpZeY> FantasticFoo: System --> Adminstration --> Synaptic
[23:40] <mikebot> Pelo: It went away, came back, still nothing.
[23:41] <mikebot> Pelo: And Main Menu still doesn't open.
[23:41] <Shpook> gyaresu: Perfect! At least some people are making things standardized.
[23:41] <tinman> np
[23:41] <FantasticFoo> PurpZeY: yeah, but how do i "remove all the packages provided" by this "xserver-xorg-video-all meta-package"??
[23:41] <Pelo> FantasticFoo, open menu > system > admin> synaptic package manager,  find the package mentionned, rightr click  properties,  look for the list of dependency remove those
[23:41] <Kline> Hi everybody...  I've got a problem which I suspect might be keycode related or somesuch, but I'm not quite sure how to go about fixing it.  Googling hasn't helped.
[23:41] <FantasticFoo> Pelo: oh ok, thanks!
[23:41] <Pelo> mikebot, I assume you tried restarting x ?
[23:41] <gyaresu> Shpook: and in k3b do a clone copy not a normal. (just incase there are intentional 'bad sectors'.
[23:41]  * PurpZeY looks around bewildered 
[23:41] <mikebot> Pelo: Is that ctrl+alt+backspace? Because that I tried.
[23:41] <FantasticFoo> i'm going to reboot into ubuntu now and try this...
[23:42]  * Pelo takes this opportunity to trounce PurpZeY 
[23:42] <Pelo> mikebot,  alt-f2 , xterm ,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    just in case you removed somting that was needed
[23:43] <Shpook> gyraesu: Oh okay, thank you. :-)
[23:43] <olaff> anyone know how i allow a user to run a certain command whenever without typing sudo infront?
[23:43] <Omar> Hello
[23:43] <Kline> I've figured out that ctrl+alt+tab doesn't work as I expect it to.  (In Gnome it focuses the panel so I can tab over the various items in it.  I'm not sure why it doesn't in this case)
[23:44] <Pelo> olaff, create a group,  give the group permission to use that command, add users to that group
[23:44] <Shpook> Ugh...all that typing for nothing. My DVD burner finally died on me :-(
[23:44] <gyaresu> olaff: You can change the binaries permissions. Either the user or the group.
[23:44] <Omar> I have a big problem with my NTFS disk, when I try to write something the system says that it is a non writable disk, how can I change it??
[23:44] <mikebot> Pelo: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[23:44] <x-X-x> vidd_ there is a lost+found folder on the drive what is it and howcome if i chmod 777 the whole drive i am not allowed to delete it ?
[23:44] <gyaresu> Omar: Did you use ntfs-3g to mount it ?
[23:44] <Pelo> mikebot, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:44] <Pelo> mikebot, in one line
[23:45] <olaff> ok so Pelo: or gyaresu: how do i add the groups permissions?
[23:45] <Omar> No, I just use mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/DG
[23:45] <x-X-x> vidd_ gone
[23:45] <Pelo> x-X-x, that lost and found folder is part of the ext file system, leave it there
[23:45] <linuxperson11> it didnt work
[23:45] <Pelo> olaff, man adduser
[23:45] <gyaresu> Omar: Then that's using the native ntfs drivers which won't let you write. You need the package ntfs-3g.
[23:45] <mikebot> Pelo: 16 upgraded.
[23:45] <Pelo> linuxperson11, did you serch in the forum ?
[23:45] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g > Omar
[23:45] <linuxperson11> i will
[23:45] <Shpook> Crap...hardware only dies when you need it the most. The drive won't even spin up now. :-( Oh well, thanks anyways guys!
[23:45] <mikebot> Pelo: Odd though considering I just upgraded.
[23:45] <Pelo> mikebot, restart X and try the menu again
[23:45] <x-X-x> pelo : oh ok thnx
[23:46] <olaff> i have a user and a group...
[23:46] <Pelo> olaff, you'll need to figure the rest out on your own
[23:46] <Omar> so, how should I write it? mount /dev/hda ntfs-3g /mnt/DG   ???
[23:46] <rui> can anyone help me I am trying to install flash in firefox , I click install plugin but it gives this error
[23:46] <rui> Download done.
[23:46] <rui> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[23:46] <rui> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[23:46] <mikebot> Pelo: restart x =xtrlaltbackspace?
[23:46] <Pici> !flashissues | rui
[23:46] <ubotu> rui: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:46] <olaff> geez i tell ya its easy in windows :)
[23:47] <Pelo> rui,  the flash intaller is broken,  get the tar.gz file form the adobe webiste
[23:47] <rui> hum smart boot
[23:47] <rui> tnkz
[23:47] <Pelo> mikebot, ctrl alt backspace yes
[23:47] <mikebot> Pelo: OK, brb
[23:47] <elijah> hello
[23:47] <Pelo> !hi
[23:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:47] <corinth> Anyone in here have a Zune mp3 player? Be mature, no M$ flaming.
[23:47] <tarv443> linuxperson11: I would recommend a search for video-card + framebuffer. good luck.
[23:47] <linuxperson11> k
[23:47] <gyaresu> Omar: Preface your comments with the nick of the person you're speaking to. Helps to notice.
[23:47] <linuxperson11> brb
[23:48] <x-X-x> pelo: it doesnt let me create new folders. do i have to gksu nautilus then go to the drive and change permissions to my name ?
[23:48] <elijah> is  good  ubuntu?
[23:48] <Pelo> corinth, it should mount as a usb mass storage on your desktop. you cna look in the forum for mor info just sarch for zune  , www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:48] <elijah> wait reply
[23:48] <mikebot> Pelo: Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[23:48] <Pelo> x-X-x,  sudo chmod /mountpint/ 777
[23:48] <corinth> Pelo, Thanks!
[23:48] <ronni1> anyone familiar with atheros madwifi drivers or problems with nvidia ethernet? lot of issues with ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50783/
[23:48] <CoasterMaster> What's the easiest way to use TrueCrypt under Ubuntu (preferably with a GUI)?
[23:48] <tinman> elijah: are you asking if ubuntu is good?
[23:48] <gyaresu> elijah: You're in an ubuntu forum. That question should be self evident.
[23:48] <cubexombi> can someone help me out with what may be a dumb dual boot question? I didn't make a separate /boot partition.. will this come back to haunt me later? or shuld i be fine so long as i keep an eye on grub after any changes get made to it
[23:49] <Pelo> mikebot, just clean install
[23:49] <mikebot> Pelo: Haha, arg. so reinstall ubuntu? That will erase all my data, right/
[23:49] <gyaresu> cubexombi: It's an advantage because now you've got plenty of room for multiple kernals. (Sometimes you run out of space if /boot is too small)
[23:49] <Shane|BGSU> haha yes it will, mikebot
[23:49] <Pelo> cubexombi, /boot will automaticaly be made in your / partiton , no need to worry
[23:49] <Shane|BGSU> i'd rm -rf / and then clean install, just for fun
[23:50] <mikebot> There must be some way to make this stupid menu work.
[23:50] <Pelo> mikebot,  make a partiton and move your /home folder to it
[23:50] <gyaresu> Pelo: mikebot You can just uninstall --purge the window manager. Then re-install.
[23:50] <Pelo> mikebot, we don't knwo waht you did to bork it in the first place
[23:50] <mikebot> gyaresu: How do I do thata?
[23:50] <mikebot> Pelo: Shouldn't there be some way to diagnose what I did?
[23:50] <teddy_> Hi, I created a new group through the Users and Groups application
[23:50] <Omar> gyaresu: Is it posible to install the package using a live CD?
[23:50] <gyaresu> mikebot: Install another window manager if it makes it easier for you to have a gui. xfce or fluxbox or whatever.
[23:51] <mikebot> gyaresu: I don't know what thsoe things are.
[23:51] <Pelo> mikebot, you've had some of the most inventive and knowledgable helpers in this channel workign with you for over an hour,  we give up
[23:51] <teddy_> The only users that it shows are root and myself, even after I added to the new group a new user
[23:51] <gyaresu> Omar: Ah. You've got a livecd running now eh?
[23:51] <cubexombi> pelo: I'm more worried about having two independent /boot folders as opposed to just one,
[23:51] <Shane|BGSU> is it possible to get KDE without getting kubuntu?
[23:51] <Shane|BGSU> and jetisson gnome?
[23:51] <Pelo> cubexombi, what os do you have on this computer ?
[23:51] <mikebot> Pelo: OK, well, thanks for the help then.
[23:51] <KukMan> Gentoo rules.
[23:51] <prav33n> Hello, all
[23:52] <prav33n> I have a Thinkpad T60
[23:52] <julian_> hey can anyone help me i have an x1300 mobility radeon and upon installation i have never had a splash screen. Can someone help me out with this?
[23:52] <prav33n> I removed Windows XP and the recovery partition completly when I installed Linux on it
[23:52] <RyanPrior> What program can I use to manage videos on an iPod?
[23:52] <Pelo> mikebot, just backup your /home folder , either to a cd or to another partiton and resintall ubuntu,  it will take less time then we've spent already
[23:52] <gyaresu> mikebot: They are different window managers (pretty menus etc.) that you can have alongside each other. You just choose which one you want to use from the login screen.)
[23:52] <mikebot> gyaresu: How can I install another windows manageruninstall the old one?
[23:52] <Omar> gyaresu: Yes, I'm trying to move the info from a virused windows HD to a clean one
[23:52] <prav33n> I now want to install Windows XP
[23:52] <rui> julian_, I have the same problem :|
[23:52] <x-X-x> pelo thnx it works like a charm now
[23:52] <mikebot> gyaresu: Ah, how do I do that?
[23:52] <prav33n> I ordered and got the recovery CD from IBM
[23:52] <mikebot> Pelo: OK, thanks.
[23:52] <ronni1> RyanPrior: think there something called musicbrainz that can help
[23:53] <julian_> rui, i hear on the internet in forums its popular i am wondering if any one has fixed it
[23:53] <gyaresu> Omar: There are other livecd's that come with ntfs-3g. Wikipedia has a list or just get grml (if you don't mind the command line)
[23:53] <prav33n> Does anyone know if I can install Windows from the rescue disk without losing existing partition layout?
[23:53] <cubexombi> pelo, two copies of 7.10, one of them doesn;t need updating, it's for a Live USB drive that i build for work, I really only ever boot into it to make changes to the build before remastering the live CD. the other is my "playground".
[23:53] <ronni1> prav33n: you doing a dual boot?
[23:53] <prav33n> ronni1: Not yet
[23:53] <Pelo> cubexombi, you've just steped out of my comfort zone ,  you'll have to figure that one out on your own
[23:54] <prav33n> ronni1: I wiped out the preinstalled Windows when I installed my debian
[23:54] <Nasari> Hi, I also have a codec issues -When I play a .avi [or any movie]  it just goes green with lots of little lines - and the "codec pack" it recommends doesn't fix it - Thanks
[23:54] <gyaresu> mikebot: Are you new to ubuntu? You could just install KDE. That's very pretty.
[23:54] <Schuenemann> _mug, I found a program called magicrescue (among a few others) that seems to do it, but I'm a bit afraid to test :-)
[23:54] <Omar> gyaresu: Actually I enjoy using the console, but I don'¡t know how find  the package
[23:54] <teddy_> Hi, can anyone explain to me why I can't see in the dropdown a new user I just created?
[23:54] <RyanPrior> ronni1: Can you use musicbrainz to add video to an iPod?
[23:54] <gyaresu> mikebot: simple as apt-get install kde . then wait for all the downloads :)
[23:54] <mikebot> gyaresu: I'm not very new, since like Dapper, but I've never had this problem before.
[23:54] <Pelo> Nasari, open  synaptic, search for gstreamer , install all the gstreamer0.10 packages you see
[23:55] <Omar> gyaresu: Actually I enjoy using the console, but I don't know howto  find  the package
[23:55] <mikebot> And I like gnome.
[23:55] <ronni1> prav33n: everyone does that, preinstalled is lame. if you do a dual boot though install windows first and leave space then use an altnernate ubuntu install disc
[23:55] <Nasari> Thanks Pelo
[23:55] <ronni1> prav33n: grub will show both then
[23:55] <gyaresu> Omar: ntfs-3g is already installed in grml. Some other livecd's also. Then you just need to mount the drive and copy things off.
[23:55] <prav33n> ronni1: Thanks
[23:55] <Omar> gyaresu: mmm I see.
[23:56] <julian_>  so has any one else had issues with getting a splash screen on ubuntu with an x1300 and by any chance resolved it or am i out of luck.
[23:56] <prav33n> ronni1: I have used Linux since 1998
[23:56] <ronni1> RyanPrior: there something called gtkpod that is very useful
[23:56] <gyaresu> mikebot: You could take the other advice and just backup your home directory then nuke the machine.
[23:56] <PJP_578> I have a problem installing a canon lbp-1120 on 7.10 Can anyone help?
[23:56] <prav33n> ronni1: I am aware of how to dual boot
[23:56] <mikebot> gyaresu: I'm goign to do that, but how do I open the partition editor.
[23:56] <Omar> gyaresu: But I have a question, can I do something using my Ubuntu version?
[23:56] <julian_> rui, well lets hope they fix this in the next version
[23:56] <prav33n> ronni1: My question is if IBM rescue disk will erase the partition layout
[23:56] <Omar> gyaresu: I'm using ubuntu 5.04 live CD
[23:57] <Pici> prav33n: Perhaps you should be asking IBM, not Ubuntu support.
[23:57] <Shane|BGSU> haha 5.04
[23:57] <cubexombi> pelo, yeah it;s kind of an odd situation that's for sure, but in essence, I'm just running two gutsy installs without a separate /boot partition.  as gyaresu mentioned though i should be OK, as techincally i just have more room for separate kernals I may just run into issues where I'll have to update grub manually through just one of the builds... I'll keep my eye out.
[23:57] <Pici> Omar: 5.04 is no longer supported.
[23:57] <prav33n> Pici: Thank you
[23:57] <ronni1> prav33n: umm I thought it would be just like regularly installing windows, even if not you could try an ntfs resizing tool like gparted live cd
[23:57] <Shane|BGSU> Omar, get gutsy or dapper
[23:57] <Shane|BGSU> gutsy preferably
[23:57] <Aaron> Hey, anyone got Microsoft Life Cam vx-1000 working?
[23:57] <linduxed> os
[23:57] <linduxed> os
[23:57] <gyaresu> Omar: Might be too old. Got a more recent version. If so then enable repos and apt-get install it.
[23:57] <prav33n> Pici: If any Thinkpad users can suggest the behavior of the IBM rescue disk
[23:57] <Pici> linduxed: ?
[23:58] <Pici> prav33n: Have you check on http://thinkwiki.org ?
[23:58] <Pelo> cubexombi, if your second install of ubuntu is on a usb flash drive, why not just boot from the usb when you need to use it,  and leave the regular boot on the hdd for when you use that
[23:58] <prav33n> ronni1: IBM says that it will restore the HDD to the factory state
[23:58] <linduxed> sorry wrong window :-P
[23:58] <sourcemaker> how can i configure hal to automount usb devices... it's not working for me
[23:58] <prav33n> Pici: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Rescue_and_Recovery
[23:58] <olaff> ahh haaa. eventually
[23:58] <prav33n> Pici: Just did it
[23:58] <Pelo> sourcemaker, are the usb devices powered on ?
[23:58] <gyaresu> mikebot: You don't open partition editor in live system. You backup your entire /home/midebot folder somewhere safe and run a new install (probably, depending on what else may be going on).
[23:58] <olaff> thanks Pelo:
[23:59] <Pelo> olaff, just like I said ?
[23:59] <mikebot> gyaresu: Where is a safe spot?
[23:59] <olaff> :)
[23:59] <prav33n> I am trying to find out if anyone here tried to get Windows installed without altering their partition layout
[23:59] <Omar> gyaresu: Thanks for your help, I'll find another version
[23:59] <gyaresu> mikebot: Other hdd.
[23:59] <axetickle> I'm having trouble getting my Mac (Mac OS X Tiger) to see the shared folders on my Laptop (Ubuntu 7.10)
[23:59] <olaff> yeah :)
[23:59] <mikebot> gyaresu: hehe don't have.
[23:59]  * Pelo is so awesome he can hardly stand to be in the same room by himself , this is why he hangs out here 
[23:59] <olaff> the permissions now makes sense to me thanks Pelo: :)
[23:59] <linduxed> is there a way to have vi behave like anjuta and autotab code and highlight brackets?
[23:59] <CITguy> does anybody know where i'd find the location of the emblems on my system?
[23:59] <reckahomis1> hello every body here
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