/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/01/04/#xubuntu.txt

Juerd_How does one get the compose key to work?02:52
Juerd_I have XkbOptions set to compose:ralt, and xmodmap -pke shows keycode 113 = Multi_key02:52
Juerd_But unfortunately it doesn't work yet.02:52
matt_ok..just installed xfce, now i don't understand completely, it reminds me of gnome. first off, what is a "media player" for xfce, i used rythombox in gnome, someone explain.02:58
dsmith_hi I am trying to install 7.10 on a Dell 240003:03
dsmith_but its locking up03:03
dsmith_i have 256mb RAM that should be enough03:03
dsmith_after I get past the auto partitioning part it locks up at 15%03:04
matt_dsmith_:03:04
matt_dsmith_: i used to have an installer lock up on me like that too, try partitioning the drive manually. and also try a new install disk03:04
dsmith_matt_: ?03:04
dsmith_oh ok03:04
matt_dsmith_: you get the partitioning part? what i mean...partition it with something else..not the installer disk, format the whole thing as one partition, then it may work, just try installing like you already have, after partitioning with something.03:05
dsmith_hmmmm I dont have a spare CD for that03:06
matt_does xubuntu have a live cd? can you boot into that?03:06
dsmith_I have used gaprted before in the past03:06
dsmith_yes 7.04 loads fine03:06
matt_dsmith_: ok, just use that03:07
dsmith_however it locks up after about 15%03:07
dsmith_ok03:07
matt_boot use gparted and format the whole thing.03:07
dsmith_I nned to look up my partition structure in my book03:07
matt_dsmith_: make it one partition, then try installing03:07
matt_dsmith_: shouldn't gparted show you?03:07
dsmith_i tried that, but manual needs to have you break it out03:07
matt_dsmith_: oh, ok03:08
dsmith_i dont have gparted cd handy03:08
matt_dsmith_: hmm...well..you can boot into the livecd xubuntu?03:08
dsmith_yes03:08
dsmith_doing it now, kinda slow03:08
matt_try this: booting into the live cd, and formatting it one of a few ways...03:09
matt_installing dparted, if it works in the live03:09
matt_or, perhaps this will work:03:09
matt_sudo mkfs ext3 /dev/whatever03:09
matt_you know the drive dev?03:09
dsmith_sda103:10
dsmith_I think03:10
matt_ok, i thinks sudo mkfs ext3 sda may work03:10
matt_sda1 is a partition, sda is the drive03:10
matt_i think03:10
matt_dsmith_: take a while to boot? cause of the low ram isn't it?03:14
dsmith_I was thinking tat03:14
dsmith_I am going to install gparted03:14
matt_dsmith_: well, i think you'll like it. i have 1gb of ram, and i just installed xfce 20 minutes ago, it is pretty amazing03:14
dsmith_ok its installed already03:15
dsmith_this is my 3rd xubuntu install03:15
matt_dsmith_: give it a shot at partitioning03:15
dsmith_1st time giving me this much trouble03:15
dsmith_I am03:15
dsmith_1gb is what I am going to install on this machine03:17
dsmith_~$5003:17
matt_well...i'd say stick with xfce, it seems nice. 50 for 1gb isn't bad03:18
dsmith_I am use to gnome and kde03:18
dsmith_on low end machines I tell ppl to use xubuntu03:19
matt_dsmith_: i've tried em all, but i sorta like xfce03:19
matt_it seems like a lighter gnome03:19
dsmith_i know03:19
matt_dsmith_: so you know much about xfce?03:20
dsmith_enough to be dangerours03:22
dsmith_*dangerous03:22
dsmith_omg, deja-vu03:23
dsmith_lol03:23
matt_dsmith_: well..i'm trying to figure this out: amarok uses kde, correct? rythombox uses gnome. so what exactly does xfce "use"? i mean..you can run amarok in gnome, and rythombox in kde, but it loads all the libraries, and in xfce, i'm trying not to have to load lots of other stuff, got me?03:23
dsmith_ahhh03:24
dsmith_xfce is sooo limited03:24
matt_dsmith_: what do you mean?03:25
dsmith_well on certain things03:26
dsmith_too me it seems limited03:26
dsmith_gnome is like for work03:26
dsmith_kde is for home03:26
matt_ok03:27
dsmith_xfce is kinda like a inbetween for low-end I supose03:28
dsmith_ok I parted the drive to full ext303:28
matt_dsmith_: go for it, i think it'll work03:28
dsmith_install now03:28
Catoptromancyxfmedia?03:30
Catoptromancyalsaplayer03:30
Catoptromancyboth great and work with xfce03:30
Catoptromancyno extra libs03:30
neozenmatt_: I'm a fan of mpd or xmms204:17
mib_srlDAT4qhello04:39
evil_techping05:38
soldatsrhythmbox works fine in xfce as well06:35
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jw232hello, can someone help me?07:47
soldatsonly if you ask a question i can answer07:48
jw232I posted my problem here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=656904 if you can help I would appreciate it07:49
soldatsi have no clue id look at your /var/logs? and see if you can dig up more info07:57
ronni1having a bit of trouble getting drivers installed for AR5006EG wireless card its an atheros type on pci express08:55
ronni1anyone using similar hardware?08:56
ronni1guess I need to compile the latest madwifi driver...09:04
ronni1lsmod |grep "ath_pci" has 3 listings though..09:07
ronni1no clue why it isn't claiming the hardware according to lshw but my ethernet is eth6 and now its eth709:08
ronni1perhaps I need to use the madwifi tools?09:13
custombrushi have a msi usb stick09:36
marchcu09:52
MegaVolthi11:25
MegaVolti have a question about DRI ... I'm using a radeon 9k mobility, radeon kernel module works and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf also works ... module DRI is loaded and DRI option 0666 is set11:27
MegaVoltstill, glxinfo says no direct rendering11:27
MegaVoltany ideas?11:28
Linuxicahi11:28
LinuxicaI can't see my cdrom device after upgrading to 7.10, neither usb cards and so on.11:30
Linuxicaanybody can help me?11:30
Linuxicamy X system gets frozen now and then with 2.6.22-14 kernel I have to boot with my old kernel11:32
Linuxicaare there problems with xubuntu 7.10 version?11:33
MegaVoltthose things work fine for me11:35
MegaVoltdid you try to mount the cd drive manually?11:35
Linuxicayes, it works11:35
Linuxicabut there's no icon at the desk11:36
nanbudhguys i hear that Netgear WGR614 is good for wifi. will it configure ok on xubuntu? i understand it does so on ubuntu.i have P III machine, i donot know how to check which motherboard it has11:38
Linuxicathank you MegaVolt I keep on lookin for a solution :)11:40
Linuxicabye11:40
MegaVoltnanbudh: which chipset does it use?11:42
nanbudhi am not sure. is there a command i can run and check?11:42
MegaVolttry11:43
MegaVolthttp://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=2fba9c713ff212353842ddb8619e259011:43
SkittlesLinuxica, Open the xfce control panel, open the 3rd button in the top row, open behaviour (?) and there in the bottom you should be able to enable the icons11:43
MegaVoltaircrack-ng has a nice overview on compartible chipsets11:43
Skittlescan't give you the excact names, i'Ve got only the german locales ;)11:44
MegaVoltfine with me ;) german, too11:45
MegaVoltbut the aircrack site should really answer it all11:45
nanbudhMegaVolt: is the chipset issue related with the wireless card? well i have yet to buy a card. so if thats an issue i should take care to buy a netgear compatible card?11:46
MegaVolthttp://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers11:47
MegaVoltthere are lists of great compartible cards in all forms11:47
MegaVoltpci / usb / etc11:47
nanbudhthanks11:49
MegaVoltthe site itself is about WEP cracking ... you can just ignore that part11:50
MegaVoltbut the wireless compartibility stuff there is useful ;)11:50
MegaVoltdoes anybody know stuff about DRI?11:51
MegaVolti have a question about DRI ... I'm using a radeon 9k mobility, radeon kernel module works and driver "radeon" in xorg.conf also works ... module DRI is loaded and DRI option 0666 is set11:51
MegaVoltradeon 9000 mobility11:51
MegaVoltbut no DRI :(11:51
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fekleeWhen I try to install build-essential, then I'm asked for the xubuntu (Gutsy) CD-ROM.12:42
fekleeCan this be done without the CD-ROM?12:42
feklee(I don't have a CD-ROM drive in the machine at the moment)12:42
MegaVoltin the packet manager menu there should be the search resources somewhere12:46
MegaVoltjust delete the CD in that list12:46
fekleeMegaVolt: I'm working on the console. I'll have a look in sources.list or what that's called ...12:47
fekleeSeems to be working now.12:49
MegaVoltshould be there, yes12:49
MegaVoltnot 100%, i used synaptic to deactivate it ;)12:49
QuarterlifeUhh.. Is there a way to get DVI working?14:18
QuarterlifeI mean it's quite difficult to install without display.14:32
PeckaHit should work by default14:33
Skittwasn't there somebody who said a chicken would be able to install linux if there are enough grains on the enter-key14:34
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PupUserd3ab56greetings, I'm having issues getting xubuntu to use my keyboard15:39
PupUserd3ab56does anyone have time/patience to look into it?15:40
gabkdllyplease state your problem as explicitly as you can, sometimes it takes some time for someone with the right knowledge to come around15:40
PupUserd3ab56sure :)15:41
PupUserd3ab56ok so I have a rather old comp I'm running Xubuntu on to get my hands dirty and learn about linux distros15:42
PupUserd3ab56K6-2 system with an AT keyboard (old DIN interface)15:42
PupUserd3ab56I had xubuntu 7.04 first, it worked fine, but the upgrade to 7.10 borked and some stuff stopped working (e.g. USB hotplug)15:43
PupUserd3ab56but other standar peripherals were doing ok15:43
PupUserd3ab56standard*15:44
PupUserd3ab56I went for a clean installation from an alternate 7.10 cd today15:44
PupUserd3ab56and since then the keyboard stops working once Xubuntu is done loading15:44
PupUserd3ab56both at the login screen and at prompt in recovery lode15:45
PupUserd3ab56mode*15:45
PupUserd3ab56even Num Lock doesn't zork anymore15:45
PupUserd3ab56work*15:45
PupUserd3ab56right now I'm using PuppyLinux on the same comp, and as you see, the keyboard works just fine15:46
gabkdllydoes your keyboard not work, even on the very first screen where you have the option to choose your keyboard layout?15:47
PupUserd3ab56oh I mean, the installation went fine15:47
gabkdllysounds like your keyboard might be configured wrong in the Xorg configuration15:49
PupUserd3ab56thought about that too, so I tried to paste a backup copy of a working xorg.conf but at no avail15:50
gabkdllyduring the installation, you were probably asked a question about your keyboard layout, yes?15:50
PupUserd3ab56yep15:50
PupUserd3ab56oh wait15:50
PupUserd3ab56when I have to type different keys?15:50
gabkdllyI have never installed gutsy using the alternate :(15:51
gabkdllyon the default xubuntu CD, when you are asked to select your keyboard layout, there is a field where you can test the setting15:52
PupUserd3ab56I don't remember having to do anything like that on the alternate cd... isn't it only for the Live one?15:53
gabkdllyyeah, I meant the live one, that is the only install CD I have experience with15:54
gabkdllyI am not an expert, but you might try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd" or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"15:56
PupUserd3ab56hmm from where?15:56
gabkdllyon the command line15:57
gabkdllyalso called Terminal15:57
PupUserd3ab56with alt-F2 at the login screen?15:57
gabkdllyno, under Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal15:58
PupUserd3ab56you mean, booting from a liceCD then?15:59
PupUserd3ab56live*15:59
gabkdllyor you can hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get a Terminal, and then hit Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to your X session15:59
gabkdllyI am also using an old keyboard with a DIN to PS/2 converter16:00
gabkdllyI am using a German keyboard16:00
gabkdllyif bandwidth isn't an issue, I would suggest giving the live CD a try16:02
PupUserd3ab56128 MB ram16:02
gabkdllyno, I meant if it is no trouble for you to download and burn another CD16:02
PupUserd3ab56ah, I have a LiveCD too16:03
PupUserd3ab56I mean, I have both alternate and live16:03
gabkdllyoh, right, with that much ram I guess there is no guarantee that it will boot, and I guess the alternate might be the only option16:04
PupUserd3ab56I've tried the liveCD once but only after installing from an alternate, it did work since I already had a swap file, it wasn't all that fast though16:06
gabkdllyah, ok, but the keyboard worked?16:06
PupUserd3ab56yep, but it was a while ago, I haven't tried after the leyboard stopped working16:08
PupUserd3ab56keyboard*16:08
PupUserd3ab56I DID have a similar problem a few months ago, if I booted the computer with the network cable plugged in16:09
PupUserd3ab56I had to first start the computer, log in Xubuntu and then plug the cable16:09
PupUserd3ab56but right now it doesn't make any difference16:10
gabkdllyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50725/16:11
gabkdllyhere you have what the section of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file looks like, you might compare it to what you have16:11
gabkdllyI guess you would want to have "at" instead of "de"16:13
PupUserd3ab56Option"XkbVariant""oss"16:13
PupUserd3ab56Option"XkbOptions""lv3:ralt_switch"16:13
PupUserd3ab56nah "de" is the layout :)16:13
PupUserd3ab56so "fr" for me16:13
gabkdllyoh, ok16:13
PupUserd3ab56mine is similar except for the "de" layout and the 2 rows I've pasted16:14
gabkdllyI guess if your keyboard is not being recognized at all, you might try a different XkbModel parameter16:15
gabkdllyoh, ok16:15
PupUserd3ab56that's what is realy weird, I had the same settings in the xorg.conf that worked as the ones that I have now with the keyboard not working16:16
gabkdllyI think I have given you all the advice I can, you might wait to see if someone more knowledgeable comes around, or you might post your problem on the ubuntu forums. You might also take a look at the xorg.conf file generated when the live cd boots16:17
PupUserd3ab56ok thanks16:17
af_there is a guide to build xubuntu from scratch (compiling sources)?17:11
slow-motionhi17:31
CONNECTEDhola17:31
marchcu17:46
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* vidd_ seems to have messed up the pubkey for my remote system....22:44
zoredache?22:45
vidd_anyone know the command to get it back?22:45
zoredachethe public key for what?  SSH?22:46
vidd_apt22:46
zoredachewell if you have the gpg files I think you can do something with add-apt-key.  You may also be able to simply reinstall ubuntu-keyring, but I am not certain22:47
vidd_i need to know how to get the gpg files22:48
vidd_is there a way to wget them?22:48
zoredacheusually they are at the root of the archive22:48
vidd_release.gpg?22:50
zoredachethat isn't it.  It seems Ubuntu doesn't have it where I thought it was.  I almost almost sure I saw it at one time, but maybe on a different mirror then I am on now22:51
zoredacheah, I found it...22:52
zoredachea copy of the official keyring seems to be in /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg22:53
zoredacheso apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg may fix you22:53
vidd_that file seems to be no good....22:55
vidd_i still get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B522:56
vidd_its starting to look like i might need to format and re-install when i get back to work =/22:56
zoredacheOh, I am certain their is a way to fix it... I just don't think that I am the one that knows the answer... You could try in #ubuntu, the issue isn't really related to the windows-manager22:58
vidd_kk ty22:58
scizzo-I do wonder if anyone that has viewed my nvidia problem post has tried the nvclock thingy I have posted22:59
marchGoodnight!23:34
vidd_zoredache, they finally got me an answer23:35
zoredacheah, good, was it something simple?23:36
vidd_kinda....23:36
vidd_but its hard to read in there23:36
* zoredache nods23:36
vidd_me thinks i should still take the server off-line on monday, format it and install clean23:38
vidd_but is going to be a pita cuzz the cdrom is broken, so i need to piggyback another on to it23:39
zoredacheif the hardware supports it, you could always install of a bootable-usb key23:40
vidd_i would just replace the drive....but its wedged in there23:40
vidd_when i built it i set up a seperate /home and /var partition so it wont be all that bad23:42
vidd_that means (hopefully) all the work i do this weekend wont be for naught23:43
slow-motionn823:44
ron_odo you guys get many complaints about the installer partition manager?23:56
ron_ono biggie, but the fricking thing doesn't check for changes and keeps making up its own mind what size my partitions should be..23:57
ron_oseemingly changing partitions on the fly.23:57
ron_ojust using gparted anyways.23:59
ron_othought I'd pass the complaint along.23:59
ron_o:/23:59

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