| SirBob1701 | maybe i'm just too tired but its hard to figure out what needs to be done in ubuntu. I wanna start to help out but everything seems spread all over | 01:45 |
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| zul | SirBob1701: you can start on #-motu | 01:47 |
| SirBob1701 | zul: ok thanks | 01:47 |
| emgent | ping * | 02:08 |
| LaserJock | emgent: ? | 02:22 |
| emgent | done. | 02:23 |
| emgent | i was found a security bug in ubuntu.com website | 02:23 |
| emgent | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/180468 | 02:23 |
| keescook | emgent: can you subscribe "ubuntu-security" to that bug? | 02:26 |
| emgent | sure | 02:26 |
| keescook | thx | 02:26 |
| emgent | heya keescook :* | 02:27 |
| keescook | hiya :) just stepping out for dinner | 02:27 |
| nuxil | whats the release date for hardy? aprl may ? | 02:28 |
| LaserJock | nuxil: wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule | 02:28 |
| nuxil | thank you | 02:29 |
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| * lamont plays with his new laptop | 03:34 | |
| LaserJock | nifty, what kind? | 03:35 |
| lamont | Dell Inspiron 1520 | 03:40 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: PONIES | 03:40 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: In all seriousness, Gutsy was out two months ago | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | yeah ... I know :/ | 03:41 |
| persia | Umm.. It's January. That's three months | 03:41 |
| lamont | persia: 2.5 | 03:41 |
| gQuig1 | anyone know if hardy alpha 3 will ship with firefox 3? | 04:06 |
| ScottK | Considering Gutsy was released with a version of it, I'd say yes. | 04:09 |
| TheMuso | But shipping is different to it being in the archives IMO. | 04:09 |
| gQuig1 | yea.. I know it'll be in the archives I am currently using it | 04:10 |
| minghua | I doubt firefox 3 will be out early enough to be shipped on hardy CD. | 04:10 |
| minghua | Hardy, being LTS and all, probably won't use a beta version for default browser. | 04:11 |
| gQuig1 | does it have to be fully out to make it to an alpha cd? | 04:11 |
| minghua | And I don't see it shipping both firefox 2 and 3 either. | 04:11 |
| TheMuso | Even if 3 is out, I don't see it being shipped for an LTS. | 04:11 |
| Fujitsu | TheMuso: Why not? 2 won't be supportable. | 04:12 |
| Fujitsu | Well, it will be even less supportable. | 04:12 |
| TheMuso | Fujitsu: Oh... | 04:12 |
| Fujitsu | Mozilla kills off old series very quickly. | 04:12 |
| ScottK | I do believe there is already a commitment to use xulrunner in the final release, so I think it'll be FF3. | 04:12 |
| gQuig1 | yea.. I assumed it would ship final with 3 | 04:12 |
| minghua | gQuig1: You are still not clear with your question though, what is the "ship" you mean? Default browser? Installed by default? In main? | 04:12 |
| gQuig1 | I was asking about the alpha 3 | 04:12 |
| gQuig1 | on default cd | 04:13 |
| Fujitsu | Alpha 3 will ship with Firefox 2 on the CD. | 04:13 |
| minghua | ScottK: Does the firefox-3.0 currently in archive already using xulrunner? | 04:13 |
| gQuig1 | yup | 04:13 |
| minghua | Everything on the desktop CD will be installed, right? | 04:14 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: It depends on it. | 04:14 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: Except for a couple of live-specific things which are removed after it's installed. | 04:14 |
| gQuig1 | what's the reason we can't go to firefox 3 for an alpha? | 04:14 |
| minghua | Nice, probably I should try it, instead of using the binary downloaded from mozilla.com. | 04:14 |
| minghua | s/com/org/, I think. | 04:14 |
| ScottK | minghua: I think so. | 04:14 |
| Fujitsu | I find Firefox 3 to be much, much nicer than Firefox 2. It's actually usable! | 04:15 |
| minghua | Fujitsu, ScottK: Thanks for the info. | 04:15 |
| minghua | Firefox 3 beta1 was terrible on my Debian. | 04:15 |
| Fujitsu | What was wrong with it? | 04:16 |
| gQuig1 | I find some of the features slow without video acceleration | 04:16 |
| gQuig1 | but I'm currently running nouveau so... | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | The scrolling tab bar is infuriating. | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | Arrrrrgh! | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | It's turning into Windows XP! | 04:17 |
| Fujitsu | I don't want to be questioned when going into about:config, TYVM. | 04:17 |
| gQuig1 | ....Firefox 3 is turning into XP? | 04:17 |
| ScottK | Considering we already need permission to patch it. | 04:17 |
| minghua | Fujitsu: What's wrong with beta1? The font rendering was completely unbearable. It was much better in beta2 though. | 04:17 |
| Fujitsu | gQuig1: It gives me a page warning not to do bad things when I go to about:config. XP does similar when opening up C:, Program Files, etc. | 04:18 |
| gQuig1 | eh.. I liked it | 04:18 |
| gQuig1 | Be careful, this gun is loaded! | 04:18 |
| Fujitsu | Heh. | 04:19 |
| minghua | Fujitsu: That can be disabled in about:config, IIRC. | 04:20 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: Or by unchecking the `show this every time' checkbox. | 04:20 |
| Fujitsu | Looks like it's general.warnOnAboutConfig. | 04:20 |
| Fujitsu | ... why is there a key named general.config.obscure_value? | 04:21 |
| gQuig1 | don't know why but I want to say for compatibility | 04:25 |
| * gQuig1 would like to see firefox 3 in alpha 3 if possible to get better testing coverage and wishes all a good night | 04:27 | |
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| peterjtech | I've got a question about defualt settings for hardy. I work over on the ubuntu forums in the absolute beginners fourms answering questions, lately I've seen a bunch of problems from people with fresh installs that have all of thier repositories disabled because they installed gutsy while not connected to the internet. Is there a bug report for, or discussion, of removing the repository check during the install? It seems like a good i | 07:46 |
| nenolod | #ubuntu+1 | 07:48 |
| evand | peterjtech: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/networkless-installation-fixes | 08:54 |
| evand | It's targeted for Hardy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/ | 08:55 |
| peterjtech | evand: that's good to know | 08:55 |
| peterjtech | I was looking around in launchpad but couldn't think of good search terms to find what I was looking for, seems rather obvious now | 08:56 |
| * Fujitsu would like that, particularly with smaller timeouts, as he installed yesterday when au.a.u.c was down, which caused much waiting and brokenness. | 08:58 | |
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| tuntun | how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend? | 09:46 |
| Fujitsu | tuntun: This channel isn't for support. Use #ubuntu. | 09:51 |
| Lure | can somebody give-back kdeedu-kde4 (kde4libs is built now) | 10:24 |
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| superm1 | imbrandon, you still around? | 11:28 |
| Fujitsu | superm1: It's getting to the time when people in his part of the world /should/ be up. Thus, you can fairly safely say he's not. | 11:29 |
| superm1 | Fujitsu, he does work odd hours for central time though on a regular basis | 11:29 |
| superm1 | so i figured it'd be worth a shot | 11:29 |
| superm1 | well if any other core-devs would have a few moments to look over the patch i was going to show imbrandon, i'd appreciate it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3300/ | 11:44 |
| * persia gets reminded, and goes digging for rarely used hardware | 11:45 | |
| superm1 | persia, i was thinking more about what you said the other day, and realized there was a corner case that caused it to reconfigure itself without user asking | 11:45 |
| superm1 | persia, hence was pre-empted this patch | 11:45 |
| persia | superm1: The changelog looks to hit all the points I had referenced, but I really should test with my hardware and get back to you. I'll wait for the new rev to send feedback (but make sure I have my HW handy first). | 11:46 |
| tjaalton | hmh, what broke gdbm? | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | bug 180368 for instance | 12:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180368 in command-not-found "gdbm fatal: lseek error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180368 | 12:34 |
| tjaalton | oh, seems that the error message is from c-n-f after all.. I just didn't have the command installed that I tried to run :) | 12:43 |
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| belsebubb | is ntop broken in gutsy ? | 15:36 |
| belsebubb | i dont know. but it seems to broken. buggy | 15:38 |
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| nixternal | any archive admins hanging out today? I need a give back on kaider-kde4 that I just uploaded...thanks | 19:14 |
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| pitti_ | nixternal: this package doesn't seem to exist? | 19:22 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: hasn't got past NEW | 19:25 |
| pitti_ | nixternal: then you don't need a giveback (that's necessary for a previously failed build which should work now) | 19:32 |
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| nixternal | pitti: thanks | 19:50 |
| nixternal | pitti: if I upload new will it overwrite, or should I bump the revision to ensure it? | 19:53 |
| pitti | nixternal: you mean upload the same version again? | 19:54 |
| nixternal | ya | 19:54 |
| pitti | nixternal: you can do that, both will be in NEW | 19:54 |
| nixternal | groovy | 19:54 |
| pitti | nixternal: but I'd prefer rejecting the previous one first to avoid confusion which is the good one | 19:54 |
| nixternal | k, how do I reject or request that? | 19:54 |
| nixternal | haven't had to do that ever | 19:54 |
| pitti | nixternal: so, shall I kill kaider-kde4 from NEW? | 19:54 |
| nixternal | yes please | 19:54 |
| nixternal | and I owe you a cookie, or a drink of your choice :) | 19:54 |
| pitti | killed; NP :) | 19:54 |
| nixternal | you rock! thanks again | 19:55 |
| nixternal | I cd'd into the wrong directory and dput the wrong one | 19:55 |
| geser | pitti: do you have a suggestion what to do with a package which uses ${source:Version} to depend on an package from an other source? In Debian the versions are kept in sync but in Ubuntu one package has changes which breaks this dependency | 19:58 |
| pitti | geser: hm, that sounds pretty fragile to begin with | 19:59 |
| pitti | why can't we keep those in sync, too? | 19:59 |
| pitti | if the strict dependency is actually justified, we have to do that anyway | 19:59 |
| pitti | and if not, we should file a Debian bug to relax it | 19:59 |
| geser | we could, but then I would need to upload an cyrus-sasl2-heimdal 2.1.22.dfsg1-16ubuntu2 as a rebuild | 20:00 |
| geser | the strict dependency is from cyrus-sasl2-heimdal-dbg to cyrus-sasl2-dbg | 20:00 |
| pitti | hm; in this case I think a rebuild is justified (new compiler, toolchain, etc.) | 20:01 |
| geser | it looks odd to use ubuntu2 as a rebuild and skipping ubuntu1 | 20:03 |
| pitti | oh, right, it's unmodified ATM | 20:03 |
| pitti | would be unfortunate to break it indeed | 20:04 |
| pitti | so, I wouldn't mind fixing cyrus-sasl's dependency either | 20:08 |
| geser | I see now that uploading cyrus-sasl2-heimdal with ubuntu2 would also fix the unmet deps for libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal | 20:11 |
| geser | so I don't get hurt when I do this strange upload? :) | 20:11 |
| geser | or is there a better solution? | 20:12 |
| dfiloni | DktrKranz: ./configure && make && debuild binary giusto? | 20:17 |
| blueyed | Is nobody interested in sponsoring the fix for bug 177032? :) | 21:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177032 in dash "Regression with filename glob expanding" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177032 | 21:23 |
| geser | blueyed: I guess now is not a good moment to search for a main sponsor :) | 21:26 |
| blueyed | geser: are you refering to weekdays/weekend? | 21:36 |
| geser | blueyed: yes, and that it's evening in europe | 21:37 |
| LaserJock | there are some core devs not in europe ;-) | 21:38 |
| geser | LaserJock: true, but the chance to find a non-european core-dev on a weekend here aren't much better (in particular one who is willing to do some sponsoring) | 21:47 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Are you up for some Main sponsoring? | 21:50 |
| LaserJock | actually depends on the patch/package | 21:51 |
| LaserJock | I generally don't like being the guy who breaks core apps ;-) | 21:51 |
| ScottK | I've got two small ones. | 21:51 |
| ScottK | Both should be safe. | 21:51 |
| ScottK | Bug 17169 is one | 21:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 17169 in dput "Avoid warning when uploading packages with -0ubuntu1 revision" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17169 | 21:52 |
| ScottK | Bug #178203 is the other. | 21:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178203 in pinentry "Please merge pinentry (0.7.4-2) from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178203 | 21:53 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: k | 21:53 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Thanks. | 21:54 |
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| LaserJock | ScottK: was there a rationale for adding in debian-mentors to dput.cf other than it's nice to have? | 22:05 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: My rationale is that it does no harm and makes it easier to contribute back to Debian (one less barrier) and that's a good thing. | 22:08 |
| LaserJock | right, I just wondered if there was a bug | 22:08 |
| ScottK | No. I didn't see value in filing a bug for that. | 22:09 |
| ScottK | I wouldn't have done it if I wasn't actually fixing something at the same time. | 22:09 |
| ScottK | I did recently set up a new laptop and it was slightly annoying to have to add it by hand. | 22:09 |
| LaserJock | sure, I think it's a good idea | 22:10 |
| LaserJock | we have revu in there | 22:10 |
| ScottK | Exactly. | 22:10 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: hmm, actually there is a new Debian version that has a number of fixes, perhaps a merge would be good? | 22:15 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I'll have a look at it. | 22:15 |
| LaserJock | I'll look at the other one while you're doing that | 22:15 |
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| ScottK | Sounds good. | 22:16 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Merge debdiff attached to the bug. | 22:35 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: pinentry done | 22:40 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Thanks. | 22:41 |
| ScottK | I have to run out for a while to drop one of my kids off for a church function. I'll be back in about 45 minutes or so. | 22:41 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: dput done as well, thanks for the merge | 23:07 |
| ion_ | It would be nice if /etc/dput.cf had an entry for ppa by default. That would require ppa to be changed a bit, though. | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | ion_: I don't know how you could do that. How would you determine what PPA to upload to? | 23:11 |
| ion_ | By the signing key | 23:11 |
| LaserJock | that's not enough | 23:12 |
| LaserJock | that might work for personal PPAs I guess, but wouldn't for teams | 23:12 |
| ion_ | If you want to upload to a team PPA, then you’d need to add your own ppa entry. | 23:12 |
| LaserJock | I guess the common use case would be for personal ppas | 23:13 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Thanks. | 23:16 |
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