| [reed] | armin76: wallet hasn't been cvs rm'd yet? | 01:33 |
|---|---|---|
| [reed] | hehe | 01:33 |
| [reed] | everybody hates wallet | 01:33 |
| [reed] | horrible code | 01:33 |
| [reed] | armin76: ping! | 03:21 |
| [reed] | armin76: mozilla bug 361415... you should have requested approval :) | 03:21 |
| ubotu | Mozilla bug 361415 in XPCOM "PowerPC64 not supported." [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361415 | 03:21 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| [reed] | ugh | 07:27 |
| [reed] | this Nokia guy is getting on my nerves | 07:27 |
| [reed] | if you're going to make a patch, make it against trunk | 07:28 |
| [reed] | not some random repo | 07:28 |
| [reed] | that is definitely not Mozilla | 07:28 |
| armin76 | [reed]: yeah, sorry :( | 10:25 |
| armin76 | thanks for adding it :) | 10:26 |
| armin76 | and no, wallet hasn't been removed :) | 10:27 |
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| nenolod | Ubulette, where's your ppa? i'll try that one | 11:39 |
| Ubulette | https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive | 11:40 |
| * nenolod pulls the deb and installs it | 11:40 | |
| Ubulette | no | 11:40 |
| Ubulette | don't try unless you grab all the deps (ie libnss/nspr) | 11:41 |
| nenolod | Ubulette, yours is 2 days newer | 11:41 |
| nenolod | Ubulette, could be that they fixed it already | 11:41 |
| Ubulette | it's easy to revert though. just grep for +fta | 11:41 |
| [reed] | nenolod! | 11:42 |
| [reed] | ltns | 11:42 |
| nenolod | hi [reed] | 11:42 |
| nenolod | Ubulette, yeah. i just put the apt repo in. | 11:42 |
| nenolod | [reed], how's gnu these days | 11:42 |
| [reed] | good, though I'm mostly doing Mozilla stuff nowadays | 11:42 |
| [reed] | trying to kick these Ubuntu guys into shape to drive their patches through correctly :) | 11:43 |
| nenolod | Ubulette, ok, testing with your 1/03/08 snapshot (hardy is 1/01/08) | 11:43 |
| nenolod | still does it | 11:44 |
| nenolod | bummer. | 11:44 |
| armin76 | bad ubuntu guys | 11:45 |
| Ubulette | the big difference between my version and the one in hardy is indeed not that. it's nss. | 11:45 |
| nenolod | oh well | 11:45 |
| nenolod | DarkMageZ, i had an adventure tonight after upgrading my ram | 11:46 |
| nenolod | DarkMageZ, i just wound up replacing all dimms | 11:46 |
| nenolod | DarkMageZ, http://nenoblog.net/?p=11 | 11:46 |
| nenolod | oh. whoops. this isn't #conspire. | 11:46 |
| nenolod | sorry for the offtopic banter. :P | 11:47 |
| armin76 | fail | 11:47 |
| DarkMageZ | nenolod, lol @ no spd chip. | 11:47 |
| DarkMageZ | that should be illegal. | 11:48 |
| nenolod | DarkMageZ, yeah. there's a bit of sarcasm in that post, because i was quite ticked off that i wasted 2 hours chasing down a bug in gtk+ about pointers which was because that valueram dimm was being overclocked 150% | 11:48 |
| nenolod | :D | 11:48 |
| DarkMageZ | oh, so that's what you and persia were chatting about? | 11:49 |
| DarkMageZ | i missed most of that conversation. | 11:49 |
| nenolod | no | 11:49 |
| nenolod | we were talking about bug #180463 | 11:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180463 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in idle_populate_func()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180463 | 11:49 |
| DarkMageZ | ah | 11:50 |
| nenolod | which was unrelated to my memory fun | 11:50 |
| Ubulette | nenolod, as i said, it was b3pre too so it didn't matter. I was more doubting an extension, hence safe mode | 11:53 |
| Ubulette | but maybe [reed] knows better | 11:54 |
| [reed] | ? | 11:54 |
| nenolod | Ubulette, i don't use any extensions or anything | 11:54 |
| [reed] | what's the problem? | 11:54 |
| nenolod | [reed], http://nenolod.net/pornlibisgreat.png | 11:54 |
| Ubulette | oh | 11:54 |
| [reed] | hmm, I saw something like that the other day | 11:55 |
| Ubulette | when loading http://nenolod.net/canhasdesktop.png | 11:55 |
| Ubulette | i can't reproduce here | 11:55 |
| nenolod | [reed], why is it called pornlib anyway | 11:55 |
| nenolod | or is it libporn? | 11:55 |
| [reed] | libpr0n, you mean? | 11:55 |
| nenolod | yeah. that. | 11:55 |
| [reed] | dunno... stuart, the creator and maintainer, named it that | 11:55 |
| [reed] | he was in his teens at the time | 11:56 |
| [reed] | :) | 11:56 |
| nenolod | at any rate | 11:56 |
| nenolod | firefox3 causes me to have renewed faith in mozilla products | 11:56 |
| [reed] | nenolod: for what reasons particularly? | 11:56 |
| nenolod | don't screw it up | 11:56 |
| nenolod | ;p | 11:56 |
| nenolod | [reed], it doesn't sit there and memory leak 600mb of pixmap/normal memory after 1 hour of use | 11:57 |
| [reed] | hehe | 11:57 |
| [reed] | yeah | 11:57 |
| [reed] | we have a large leak only on Linux right now, too... it's going to get looked at next week | 11:57 |
| [reed] | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/287777 | 11:57 |
| nenolod | firefox2 left me with the feeling that "mozilla developers are clearly morons and if i really had time i would try to make gtk-webcore not suck" | 11:58 |
| [reed] | if any of you all want to try to fix it, that would also be great ;) | 11:58 |
| nenolod | and then webkit came out | 11:58 |
| [reed] | hah | 11:58 |
| [reed] | well, Firefox 3 is over two year's worth of work | 11:58 |
| nenolod | so what was firefox2 then? | 11:58 |
| nenolod | a cheap hack? :P | 11:58 |
| [reed] | yes! :) | 11:59 |
| armin76 | +1 | 11:59 |
| [reed] | lol | 11:59 |
| nenolod | "we took buggy POS firefox 1.5 and gave it new graphics. it's COOL GUYS." | 11:59 |
| [reed] | nenolod: besides the stabbing of leaks, what else do you like about Firefox 3? | 11:59 |
| nenolod | [reed], oh well. i can thank the mozilla corporation for giving me motivation to waste $400 on memory for my computer so that firefox2 is usable | 11:59 |
| armin76 | [reed]: that url is empty :P | 12:00 |
| [reed] | armin76: bah, let me repost it | 12:00 |
| nenolod | [reed], i figure it'll take a lot of web browsing to clog up 4GB of memory | 12:00 |
| [reed] | armin76: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/291342 | 12:00 |
| nenolod | (and i am sorry if that seems harsh, but it's the truth!) | 12:01 |
| [reed] | yeah | 12:01 |
| [reed] | Firefox 2 was really bad | 12:01 |
| nenolod | [reed], that's a "huge leak"? | 12:01 |
| armin76 | bad | 12:01 |
| [reed] | nenolod: well, at least one leak we're seeing | 12:01 |
| DarkMageZ | the truth is better than giving people false hope in their own product | 12:01 |
| nenolod | [reed], what about the 500mb per hour memory leak in firefox2? | 12:01 |
| [reed] | we're not done fixing leaks :) | 12:01 |
| [reed] | nenolod: hah, fixed by various things | 12:02 |
| nenolod | [reed], please please let the world know in the firefox3 press release that you had the guy responsible for that leak shot | 12:03 |
| [reed] | lol | 12:03 |
| nenolod | "we don't want to talk about that guy. we sort of arranged an accident for him after that 500mb per hour leak." | 12:03 |
| nenolod | "it's better for the world. he can't write crappy code anymore afterall." | 12:03 |
| nenolod | seriously, my views on firefox2, xulrunner 1.8, and all of it, is mostly unprintable | 12:04 |
| nenolod | i don't blame debian for rebranding firefox | 12:05 |
| [reed] | lol | 12:05 |
| nenolod | at least then they could go fix crappy code without being bothered | 12:05 |
| nenolod | "you can't call this firefox2. it's actually /good/" | 12:05 |
| [reed] | they didn't, though | 12:05 |
| [reed] | they just made a large mess | 12:05 |
| * Ubulette agree | 12:05 | |
| [reed] | I've read their "patch" | 12:05 |
| nenolod | the idea was in the right spot! | 12:05 |
| [reed] | it's a huge mess | 12:05 |
| [reed] | anyway, Firefox2 is behind us | 12:06 |
| [reed] | look to the future! | 12:06 |
| [reed] | :) | 12:06 |
| nenolod | i think mozcorp should apologise to the world for firefox2 | 12:07 |
| nenolod | you know, something along the lines of "We're sorry about that. We really should have done some QA or something. It won't happen again." | 12:07 |
| [reed] | I can definitely tell you perf/leaks wasn't as huge of a thing in Fx2 time as it is now | 12:07 |
| armin76 | [reed]: do you like http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ssl.png vs http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ssl1.png ? :) | 12:07 |
| [reed] | it's huge now | 12:08 |
| [reed] | (time and effort put into preventing perf regressions and stopping leaks) | 12:08 |
| [reed] | armin76: the first | 12:08 |
| [reed] | :) | 12:08 |
| nenolod | i remember firefox 1.0 | 12:08 |
| nenolod | it was good | 12:08 |
| nenolod | it didn't leak .. much. | 12:08 |
| armin76 | lol | 12:08 |
| [reed] | nenolod: no, NS4 was good | 12:08 |
| [reed] | :p | 12:08 |
| nenolod | [reed], hell no | 12:09 |
| nenolod | [reed], wait | 12:09 |
| DarkMageZ | at the time it was only important to show internet explorer up. not be the highest quality product possible. | 12:09 |
| nenolod | WAIT. | 12:09 |
| nenolod | hoooold it. | 12:09 |
| armin76 | [reed]: i mean...do you like the second? :) because its what happens when you build ff against xulrunner | 12:09 |
| [reed] | armin76: heh, file a bug | 12:09 |
| [reed] | that should be fixed | 12:09 |
| [reed] | like, asap | 12:09 |
| [reed] | make sure you aren't causing it first | 12:09 |
| * armin76 files a bug against Ubulette | 12:09 | |
| [reed] | then file it against us :) | 12:09 |
| armin76 | i am not, same on ubuntu :P | 12:09 |
| armin76 | <armin76> it gets it from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/dom/locales/en-US/chrome/netErrorApp.dtd instead of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/overrides/netError.dtd | 12:10 |
| armin76 | that's from yesterday | 12:11 |
| armin76 | Ubulette: did you look into it? | 12:11 |
| [reed] | you all should be pulling the browser netError | 12:12 |
| [reed] | not the dom one | 12:12 |
| Ubulette | armin76, no, i didn't. | 12:12 |
| Ubulette | armin76, why do you want to file a bug against me ? | 12:13 |
| Ubulette | what did i do ? ;) | 12:13 |
| armin76 | nothing | 12:13 |
| armin76 | that's why :P | 12:13 |
| armin76 | [reed]: so where i file it? | 12:14 |
| [reed] | armin76: how are you building? | 12:14 |
| [reed] | what patches are you using | 12:14 |
| [reed] | and what's your .mozconfig look like? | 12:14 |
| Ubulette | lol. on that flow of questions, i'm leaving for the w-e | 12:15 |
| * nenolod files a bug report against whoever was responsible for firefox2 being such crap | 12:15 | |
| armin76 | [reed]: dunno, ask Ubulette :P | 12:15 |
| Ubulette | just libxul should be enough | 12:16 |
| Ubulette | (and you'll answer it's not supported) | 12:16 |
| nenolod | [reed], i was thinking .. maybe you should concentrate on netscape3 code excellence level instead of netscape4 | 12:16 |
| nenolod | netscape4 is where they added all the crap that nobody had use for (calendaring and friends) | 12:17 |
| Ubulette | you're describing sunbird and seamonkey ;) | 12:18 |
| Ubulette | ok, leaving for good now | 12:18 |
| Ubulette | cu | 12:18 |
| armin76 | bye | 12:19 |
| [reed] | it's 6:20am | 12:19 |
| * [reed] goes to bed | 12:19 | |
| armin76 | bye | 12:19 |
| * armin76 stabs Ubulette and asac | 12:29 | |
| armin76 | you guys broke ff3 on hardy on sparc :P | 12:29 |
| armin76 | armin@bender:~$ firefox-3.0 | 12:29 |
| armin76 | *NOTICE* No previous firefox profile found, starting with a fresh one | 12:29 |
| armin76 | Bus error | 12:29 |
| armin76 | armin@bender:~$ | 12:29 |
| bobb13 | hi | 14:50 |
| bobb13 | anyone can help with firefox - ubuntu? | 14:50 |
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| Volans | Hi asac, I have a question about licenses for firefox addons, can you grant me 5 minutes of your time? | 19:17 |
| Volans | I go to launch, maybe I came back later, bye | 19:40 |
| armin76 | omg, he's going to do a launch! | 20:18 |
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