[00:00] <sourcemaker> Pelo: yes... it's powered on
[00:00] <tinman> prav33n: what exactly do you mean?
[00:00] <reckahomis1> what are u talking about ?
[00:00] <ronni1> prav33n: if it doesn't let you specify paritions then you'll have to resize some say they can install linux first then windows but I think you have to mess with mbr or grub to do that and very annoying. Can't you backup files from the drive?
[00:00] <sourcemaker> Pelo: located at /dev/sdd1
[00:00] <Pelo> sourcemaker, hold on I have a thought I want to check
[00:00] <_mug> notsowired: dont irc as root
[00:00] <gyaresu> mikebot: Then you should install xfce and logout. Then login and apt-get remove --purge gnome-window-something-something (don't know package name for gnome.
[00:00] <prav33n> tinman: I am asking if anyone was successful in installing Windows from the IBM rescue disk on their Thinkpad without losing data (Linux partitions)
[00:00] <mikebot> gyaresu: OK, thanks.
[00:01] <sourcemaker> Pelo: thanks
[00:01] <gyaresu> Anyone know how to purge Gnome Window manager? What's the metapackage name?
[00:01] <Schuenemann> gyaresu, ubuntu-desktop?
[00:01] <tinman> sourcemaker: i had to add a line in fstab to make it automount
[00:01] <axetickle> I'm having trouble getting my Mac (Mac OS X Tiger) to see the shared folders on my Laptop (Ubuntu 7.10). Can anyone help? I think it's a Samba related issue...
[00:01] <gyaresu> Schuenemann: Guess?
[00:01] <Pelo> sourcemaker, can you mount manualy ? ( my thougth didn'T pan out, I thought there might have been a line in fstab about usb like there is for cdrom)
[00:01] <prav33n> ronni1: Now-a-days these rescue disks are so dumb that they don't have any user control
[00:01] <CITguy> gyaresu: the window manager is "metacity"
[00:01] <gyaresu> prav33n: Windows hates everyone. It will nuke the entire disk.
[00:01] <tinman> prav33n: installing windows usually just overwrites the MBR for me which can easily be fixed with live cd
[00:02] <Schuenemann> gyaresu, well, yes
[00:02] <mikebot> gyaresu: sudo apt-get install xfce?
[00:02] <olaff> so i havent found anything that doesnt work on my laptop with a bit of a kick
[00:02] <gyaresu> CITguy: really? cool. mikebot
[00:02] <sourcemaker> tinman: on a fresh gusty laptop it is working fine... without changing the fstab
[00:02] <heartsblood> ever since I installed esound I have had problems with devices not being able to share my sound card.  how can I get alsa to be the primary device driver for my sound card again?
[00:02] <olaff> which is pretty satisfying
[00:02] <prav33n> gyaresu: These OEM vendors make it that way
[00:02] <gyaresu> mikebot: aye.
[00:02] <olaff> even the fingerprint reader
[00:02] <linduxed> no vi wizards?
[00:02] <Pelo> olaff, we prefer to think of it as a firm nudge, not a kick
[00:02] <mikebot> gyaresu: couldn't find package in xterm.
[00:02] <prav33n> tinman: I have rescued the MBRs a tons of times before
[00:03] <heartsblood> if I apt-get remove esound-common tons of applications want to be removed as well
[00:03] <gyaresu> mikebot: xfcd4 (apt-cache search xfcd)
[00:03] <prav33n> tinman: However, the IBM site says that the rescue disk will restore the partitions in the HDD to the factory default
[00:03] <gyaresu> mikebot: xfcd4 (apt-cache search xfce)
[00:03] <olaff> pelo its relative i guess, my laptops been through so much it doesnt feel a nudge anymore :)
[00:03] <gyaresu> prav33n: Is windows installed already?
[00:03] <heartsblood> I mean what does bug-buddy have to do with esound?
[00:03] <tinman> sourcemaker: well, see the same thing happened to me, it was working at beginninsg, but then i screwd something,
[00:03] <prav33n> gyaresu: Not yet
[00:03] <tinman> prav33n: that i don't know :X
[00:03] <Pelo> olaff, :-)
[00:03] <mikebot> gyaresu: Um, I'm sorry, but I'm quite confused.
[00:03] <prav33n> gyaresu: I just have Debian SID installed on it
[00:03] <gyaresu> prav33n: then it will nuke the drive. Install linux after you've done windows.
[00:04] <gyaresu> mikebot: That's alright.
[00:04] <prav33n> gyaresu: This is not going to work
[00:04] <Pelo> mikebot,  gyaresu  is trying to get you to intall another gui interface,  I recommend you just clean install , again
[00:04] <gyaresu> mikebot: If you install xfce4 then you can logout and login to xfce as your new 'desktop' (window manager). From there open a console and we'll remove metacity (gnome desktop).
[00:04] <mikebot> Pelo: I can't back up for lack of another hdd, and I don't know how to open a partition editor without access to my menu.
[00:05] <Pelo> mikebot, try this, , right click the top pannel, add to pannel,  add another instance of the menu again,  see if that one works
[00:05] <heartsblood> if I want to remove esound-common why are things like vlc, wine, mplayer, and evolution being uninstalled?
[00:05] <olaff> i do have one question, why the funk does firefox on ubuntu ship with the most horrendous font collection?!?!
[00:05] <netlarlinux> What format does a drive need to be in from a Mac to share with that drive on ubuntu?
[00:05] <Pelo> mikebot,  if it does,  get rid of the first one,  if you can,  make anotehr pannel alltogether and delete the first one
[00:05] <olaff> ohh lets make websites look as harsh as possible
[00:05] <mikebot> Pelo: That one doesn't work either.
[00:05] <Pelo> netlarlinux, most formats should work, ext3 is currently the linux preference
[00:06] <Pelo> mikebot,  make another pannel
[00:06] <gyaresu> netlarlinux: macs are hsf+ which linux can read/write to.
[00:06] <Pelo> mikebot,  there is also an all in one menu, one button, seeif you can get anything out of that
[00:06] <olaff> is there a way to make the panels stay on top of a full size image in gnome editor
[00:06] <netlarlinux> so I should make the drive hsf+ for my mac to see the linux drive?
[00:06] <mikebot> Pelo: No luck. the all in one button has the submenus for places and system but not applications.
[00:06] <Pelo> olaff, donT thinks so
[00:07] <kr00l> anyone have Unreal Tournament 3 working on Linux?
[00:07] <mikebot> Pelo: Couldn't it be that the applications menu is empty and something else is causing the main menu editor from not opening?
[00:07] <Pelo> mikebot, , go in , /home/.config/menu do you still have anyting in there ?
[00:07] <Pelo> mike that is what I am thinking
[00:07] <mikebot> Pelo: Lots of things.
[00:08] <Pelo> mikebot, such as ?
[00:08] <mikebot> Pelo: applications.menu, settings.menu, applications.menu.undo-10 to 44, applications-merged (folder).
[00:08] <UbuntuLover> got a weird problem. $RANDOM from the shell produces random enough numbers, but if I make a script that does an `echo $RANDOM', and run it repeatedly, I get very predictable strings of sequential numbers. I think it has something to do with the seed being set when a new shell is opened, but I dont really know how to fix it. Any Help?
[00:09] <netlarlinux> Pelo that is not even an option that I can choose to format to
[00:09] <Pelo> mikebot, rename one of the applications.menu.undo.10 files to applications.menu
[00:09] <netlarlinux> I am using gparted Pelo
[00:09] <sourcemaker> Pelo: problem solved
[00:10] <Pelo> netlarlinux, you can,t format in ext3 from gparted ???%?
[00:10] <Pelo> sourcemaker, how ?
[00:10] <sourcemaker> Pelo: apt-get install ivman pmount usbmount
[00:10] <sourcemaker> Pelo: there is a know problem after upgrading to gusty
[00:10] <mikebot> Pelo: done.
[00:10] <Pelo> sourcemaker, i'm very surprised pmount and usbmount weren't already on there
[00:10] <netlarlinux> Not to the format hsf+ Pelo
[00:10] <Pelo> mikebot, restart the panel
[00:10] <mikebot> Pelo: How do I do that again? (Sorry.)
[00:11] <sourcemaker> Pelo: year... working fine.... great ! :-)
[00:11] <UbuntuLover> Anyone know why the randon number generator ($RANDOM) would output very predictable sequences of numbers?
[00:11] <heartsblood> how do I get applications to share my sound card?
[00:11] <wers> how do I install fluxbuntu over ubuntu?
[00:11] <Pelo> mikebot, alt-f2 xkill ,  click the panel
[00:11] <netlarlinux> The drive works on the linux box, but I want to be able to see it from my mac too Pelo
[00:12] <mikebot> Pelo: Ah, beautiful.
[00:12] <directcha> heartsblood, how do I get applications to share my sound card?
[00:12] <mikebot> Pelo: Thank you very much.
[00:12] <Pelo> netlarlinux, I'm not the best person to ask about this ,  infact, I am the last person you want to ask about this, right after the guy who shines your shoes
[00:12] <Pelo> mikebot,  you are welcome
[00:13] <directcha> heartsblood, how do I get applications to share my sound card?  some combinations work!
[00:13] <netlarlinux> ha ha ok Pelo
[00:13] <Pelo> mikebot, and the system andplaces one work too ?
[00:13] <mikebot> Pelo: yes.
[00:13] <heartsblood> Idrectcha: ever since I installed esound (in an attempt to get system sounds back) I lost the ability to play sounds from more than 1 source.  removing esound did not fix the problem
[00:13] <UbuntuLover> heartsblood: Last I knew, you cant use alsa for duplexing applications. there is a great utility, I think, called alsaoss that lets you use the alsa driver with programs and then ix them with oss automatically so you can hear more thn oe program at a time
[00:13] <Pelo> ok then
[00:13] <truna> netlarlinux, doesnt your mac support NFS? its the old standby for network sharing.
[00:13] <netlarlinux> Yes truna
[00:13] <crimsun> heartsblood: how did you install ESounD?
[00:13] <mikebot> Pelo: And my last question (sorry), is about the error I got when I restarted X, namely, Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to locate the factory. Killing bonobo-activation-server and restarting Nautilus may help fix the problem.
[00:14] <gyaresu> wers: fluxbuntu.org
[00:14] <Pelo> mikebot, reboot again and see what happnes,  do not restart x reboot
[00:14] <UbuntuLover> truna:  netlarlinux: I have a mac using an NFS share from an ubuntu machine. Works great. It should be in there by default
[00:14] <kr00l> I need help installing a game that's a .tar.gz
[00:14] <Pelo> kr00l,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[00:14] <truna> netlarlinux, there you go..testament from UbuntuLover
[00:14] <Johan-> netlarlinux: sorry if this isn't ontopic but for netcharing afp is excellent
[00:14] <mikebot> Pelo, OK, I'm going to try that right now, thx again.
[00:14] <gyaresu> kr00l: tar zxf thing.tar.gz
[00:14] <mikebot> brb.
[00:14] <FactTech> Question: On my old Windows machine, I had a program that would let me use my scanner like a copy machine (provided by HP, who made the scanner). Can anyone recommend an equivalent program for Linux?
[00:14] <heartsblood> crimsun: I'd be lying if said I remember, it was a 'quick fix' from the ubuntu forums to get system sounds working in 7.10.  Somebody recomended that I installed esound because that is what gnome used.  Well I got system sounds back but now I can't play more than 1 sound at a time
[00:14] <Drakx_> kr00l: tar zxvf filename.tar.gz
[00:15] <crimsun> heartsblood: do either/both /etc/asound.conf, ~/.asoundrc exist?
[00:15] <netlarlinux> what is netcharing johon
[00:15] <Pelo> FactTech, xane should be able to scan using your pinter
[00:15] <netlarlinux> johan
[00:15] <Pelo> FactTech, nvm, I miss read you
[00:15] <directcha> heartsblood u use vlc?
[00:15] <Johan-> netlarlinux: erhn.... charing files over the net :P
[00:15] <Johan-> *sharing
[00:15] <heartsblood> directcha: yes
[00:15] <Johan-> netlarlinux: my english dies when I'm tired
[00:16] <directcha> :(
[00:16] <FactTech> Pelo Thanks, anyway.
[00:16] <PJP_578> can anyone help me with a Canon lbp-1120 printer?
[00:16] <Pelo> FactTech, check in synaptic, search for photocopy maybe
[00:16] <heartsblood> crimsun: .asoundrc is there, that's what i use to get 5.1 sound out of my soundcard
[00:16] <UbuntuLover> netlarlinux: truna: to be fair though, I did use the terminal to get it done, not from the "connect to network" menu item. Google "NFS on OSX". That was how I did it
[00:16] <Pelo> PJP_578,  what is the issue ?
[00:16] <shawnmstout> hello
[00:16] <FactTech> Pelo I didn't try that search term, but did try 'copier'. I'll look again...
[00:16] <crimsun> heartsblood: and what is pcm.!default overridden as?
[00:16] <directcha> connection)
 heartsblood: do either/both /etc/asound.conf, ~/.asoundrc exist?
[00:17] <Pelo> FactTech, also try xerox , just in case
[00:17] <heartsblood> directch: only .asoundrc
[00:17] <UbuntuLover> how do you reset the random seed?
[00:17] <dhude> which anti-virus to use?
[00:17] <mikebot> Pelo: Thanks so much.
[00:17] <Schuenemann> dhude, I've heard good things about clam
[00:17] <tinman> umm, is unrar-free as good as unrar, if not how do i unapt-get something lol
[00:17] <gyaresu> dhude: Don't really need one in most cases. Is it a special system (mail server etc.?)
[00:17] <mikebot> I have a few other questions, so should I just ask them freely in here>
[00:17] <shawnmstout> im new to ubuntu, just using the live cd right now
[00:17] <Pelo> dhude, you don'T realy need an av in linux but you can try clamtk or avast makes a nice linux version , if you want to protect your windows using freinds
[00:18] <gyaresu> mikebot: aye.
[00:18] <directcha> heartsblood: i'm level 1
[00:18] <Malik_> wats that problem with ubuntu and wirless
[00:18] <gyaresu> !hi > shawnmstout
[00:18] <mikebot> I accdently removed from panel the thing about upgrades, battery level, and the network connection one.
[00:18] <heartsblood> crimsun: what part would define it?
[00:18] <Pelo> mikebot, ask and be patient
[00:18] <mikebot> Are those three seperate things or one thing?
[00:18] <mikebot> Pelo: OK, thanks.
[00:18] <shawnmstout> question i have is, can you use a combination of a desktop with a webserver or do you have to install the server edition
[00:18] <heartsblood> crimsun: slave.pcm?
[00:18] <kbdman> what's up folks?!?!???!!!!!
[00:18] <crimsun> heartsblood: pcm.!default {}
[00:18] <kbdman> uhuuu
[00:18] <Pelo> mikebot, just put them back with add to pannel
[00:18] <Johan-> Pelo: why would one want to do that :)?
[00:18] <crimsun> heartsblood: yes, the slave
[00:19] <zubat> help, firefox keeps crashing when I try to stream a video from youtbe
[00:19] <Pelo> Johan-, do what ?
[00:19] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: you can have everything on one machine. They are all separate programs.
[00:19] <mikebot> Pelo: Which one is the one that like shows rythymbox and stuff.
[00:19] <heartsblood> crimsun: type plug; slave.pcm "surround51"; slave.channels 6; route_policy duplicate;
[00:19] <Pelo> mikebot, notification area
[00:19] <axetickle> zubat: Which flash player did you install?
[00:19] <Johan-> Pelo: protect your windows using friends
[00:19] <FactTech> Pelo No luck, but I appreciated the suggestions.
[00:19] <tinman> oh oh, flood of info i am unable to process :'( was I answeres among this chaos?
[00:19] <shawnmstout> ok, when i search for add/remove programs i did not find apache, is that a separate dl'ed file?
[00:19] <mikebot> Pelo: WOnderful, thanks,.
[00:19] <Malik_> wat kinda graohic card do u need for ubuntu?
[00:19] <zubat> I think it was 9 from the adobe website
[00:19] <mikebot> Has anyone here ever had trouble burning DVDs with k3b?
[00:19] <shawnmstout> or would i be better off with the server edition
[00:20] <GnimshUMN> hey there, are there any opers around?
[00:20] <crimsun> heartsblood: do two concurrent instances of `aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` work audibly?
[00:20] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: It's not quite that easy :)
[00:20] <Pici> GnimshUMN: Whats up?
[00:20] <Pelo> Johan-, it's called being neighbourly, it's the same kind of attitude that brings me in this channel night after night to help out ppl who need it
[00:20] <UbuntuLover> zubat anything that supports the vga standard?
[00:20] <tinman> shawnmstout: apt-cache search apache2 ?
[00:20] <axetickle> zubat: Don't install from the adobe website!
[00:20] <FactTech> Malik Just about any one will work.
[00:20] <liquidengineer> Hello all.
[00:20] <Pelo> mikebot,  if you are uinsg gnome use gnomebaker not k3b
[00:20] <PurpZeY> FactTech: I'd be a little more careful than not
[00:20] <Drakx_> shawnmstout: sudo apt-get install apache
[00:20] <Nasari> Pelo: I installed all gstreamer0.10 packages no no avail - I get good sound, but the same fuzzy green screen
[00:20] <axetickle> zubat: Use the synaptic package manager. Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[00:20] <heartsblood> crimsun: no
[00:20] <Pelo> GnimshUMN, you don't want to wake the operators up they get nasty
[00:20] <shawnmstout> ok
[00:20] <FactTech> PurpZeY What do you mean?
[00:20] <heartsblood> crimsun: only 1, and it's been like that ever since I installed esd :/
[00:21] <GnimshUMN> Pici, I registered on freenode, apaperntly, 2 years ago...
[00:21] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: By default you will want to follow a guide if you've never done it before as there is quite a bit of configuring. http://howto-forge.com is a very good site for this sort of thing also.
[00:21] <zubat> okay ill try that but I recall it not working inthe past
[00:21] <axetickle> zubat: Then search for flash plugin mozilla or something like that
[00:21] <GnimshUMN> I don't know the password for my nick
[00:21] <Johan-> Pelo: I know I know, notice the :)
[00:21] <josspyker>  PJP_578: gutsy?
[00:21] <GnimshUMN> and I need to reset it
[00:21] <wwalker> is anyone having the "random ey repeat" problem?  I find lots of references to it in the Dapper days, but none recent but I began having the problem a few days ago  (right after a mass update....
[00:21] <Pici> GnimshUMN: if you're looking for freenode operators, ask in #freenode, I'm just a channel op.
[00:21] <Pelo> Nasari, might be the file itself, do other avi do the same ?
[00:21] <liquidengineer> I've got Ubuntu 7 installed on a computer using grub to dual boot Windows XP.  I need to reinstall windows, which has become craptified.  Will the windows reinstaller do anything to mess up my bootloader (I know it won't touch the linux partition.)
[00:21] <GnimshUMN> I've tried all the combinations I know that I've used, can't get it
[00:21] <axetickle> zubat: I use it, it works for me. You may need to uninstall the one from the Adobe site (although my expertise in this area is limited)
[00:21] <GnimshUMN> what's the possibility of this actually working?
[00:21] <Pelo> GnimshUMN, ask in #freenode
[00:21] <shawnmstout> gyaresu, ok thanks
[00:21] <zubat> k thanks
[00:21] <tinman> linxuz3r: yes it will
[00:21] <wwalker> "random Key repeat"
[00:21] <axetickle> zubat: o problem
[00:21] <axetickle> No*
[00:22] <heartsblood> crimsun: I did a apt-get remove esound but that didn't fix it.  My box also started to act really strange.  On startup when I got the login screen I would get a black screen for 4-5 seconds before it would let me log in.
[00:22] <heartsblood> crimsun: reinstalling esound would make the black screen go away
[00:22] <Nasari> Pelo: yea, all .avi and other formats too
[00:22] <linxuz3r> tinman: yes it will what?
[00:22] <gyaresu> liquidengineer: You should be ok if you're just doing a 'repair' reinstall. If you do anything else. It will nuke the whole drive.
[00:22] <sourcemaker> Liquid: use the live cd to restore the boot loader after xp install
[00:22] <shawnmstout> page not found on that link you gave me
[00:22] <tinman> liquidengineer: *
[00:22] <tinman> linxuz3r: sorry
[00:22] <crimsun> heartsblood: pastebin your /etc/esound/esd.conf
[00:22] <liquidengineer> tinman: ??
[00:22] <Pelo> liquidengineer, yes,  reinstalling windows will fuckup your grub  , I recommend you get the supergrub cd so You can easily fix the problem, trust me it is  the easiest way to go about it
[00:23] <liquidengineer> Pelo: even the repair installation?
[00:23] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: http://www.howtoforge.com/
[00:23] <Pelo> Nasari, what video player are you using
[00:23] <tinman> liquidengineer: when you install windows it will over write the MRB
[00:23] <Pelo> liquidengineer, yes
[00:23] <shawnmstout> http://www.howto-forge.com/  says server not found
[00:23] <shawnmstout> ok
[00:23] <shawnmstout> there we go :)
[00:23] <Pelo> liquidengineer, lets face it, windows does not play well with others
[00:23] <liquidengineer> Pelo: Well, that blows.  Is there a howto for fixing it?
[00:23] <tinman> sigh, i should stop talking, I have lag :'(
[00:23] <Nasari> Pelo: VLC
[00:23] <liquidengineer> Pelo: Indeed.
[00:23] <Drakx_> does windows play well any way?
[00:24] <heartsblood> crimsun: never used patebin before, gimme a sec
[00:24] <shawnmstout> so given what i am wanting to do, would i be better with server edition then gy?
[00:24] <Pelo> liquidengineer, google for supergrub cd , dl and burn it, then reisntall windows, after that boot the supergrub cd and follow the insructions
[00:24] <dox> re
[00:24] <Pelo> Nasari, try with totem or mplayer,   gstreamer was for totem
[00:24] <liquidengineer> Pelo: Thanks
[00:24] <gyaresu> Pelo: Supergrub good eh? Never heard of it.
[00:25] <truna> liquidengineer, you can use vmware and load your windows on it, adequate for windows desktop kind
[00:25] <Pelo> what the fuck is with all the part/join for the last 10 min ?
[00:25] <Pici> !language | Pelo
[00:25] <ubotu> Pelo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:25] <mikebot> Pelo: gnomebaker is in the repositories?
[00:25] <Pelo> gyaresu, the menus are hellish but once you've figured those out , the fix is very simple and easy
[00:25] <Pelo> mikebot, yes
[00:26] <heartsblood> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50786/
[00:26] <mikebot> Pelo: I'lkl try it, thanks.
[00:26] <Pelo> Pici, I've earned the right to use that word at least once a month
[00:26] <zubat> axetickle : turns out the flashplugin-nonfree is alrdey installed lol I must have been thinking about my previous installation
[00:26] <liquidengineer> Is this the supergrub I want? http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[00:26] <Gnimsh> thanks for the help guys
[00:26] <gyaresu> Pelo >> bofh :)
[00:26] <Gnimsh> They fixed it for me
[00:27] <Pelo> liquidengineer, hold on
[00:27] <crimsun> heartsblood: have you tried copying spawn_options's parameters to default_options?
[00:27] <Pelo> liquidengineer,  yep
[00:27] <crimsun> heartsblood: then logging out of gnome and back in?
[00:27] <Pelo> liquidengineer,  the others are the same as I understand it  just a load of website carry it
[00:27] <heartsblood> crimsun: negative, I've never messed with the esd config before.
[00:27] <shawnmstout> well i think i have decided to install server edition given what i have read
[00:27] <liquidengineer> Pelo: ah.  So noted.  Thanks.
[00:28] <heartsblood> crimsun: the only audio config stuff I've done was with also to get 5.1 output to work
[00:28] <Pelo> afk
[00:28] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: That's brave and fun but if you're not used to the command line then a desktop may make things easier for you.
[00:28] <mikebot> Pelo: I can do DVD isos with this?
[00:28] <Malik_> can some1 help me otu with soemtin?
[00:28] <Boruta> hello! can someone help me with startup problem : etc/init.d/rc usplash_write: permission denied - PC stops on that
[00:29] <gyaresu> shawnmstout: If it's not for a commercial server then having the desktop installed will may zero difference to performance.
[00:29] <liquidengineer> Pelo: It's only 3.8 MB or so.  Is that right?
[00:29] <liquidengineer> seems small.
[00:29] <gyaresu> !ask > Malik_
[00:29] <Malik_> wast is beryl?
[00:29] <Malik_> wat is beryl?
[00:29] <gyaresu> Malik_: Prettier desktop.
[00:29] <Pelo> liquidengineer, yes it is very small
[00:29] <Malik_> wat?
[00:29] <Malik_> a visual theme
[00:29] <gyaresu> Malik_: With special effects.
[00:29] <Pelo> mikebot,  in the tool menu
[00:30] <Malik_> the speicail effects r the sube rite
[00:30] <gyaresu> Malik_: wobbly windows etc. Check some vids out on Youtube.
[00:30] <nickrud> Malik_, obsolete way to make your desktop do fancy window shading and movement
[00:30] <zubat> gyaresu: but having gnome in a server can lead to security vulnerability so ive herd
[00:30] <Malik_> so woutout that is there the cube effect
[00:30] <flamsmark> i'm having some trouble hibernation in 7.10 on a fujitsu p7230
[00:30] <flamsmark> and when i say some trouble, the phrase i'm euphamising for is 'it doesn't work out of the box, and i son't know what to do about it'
[00:30] <flamsmark> i do have the hibernate icon in the power options dialogue
[00:30] <flamsmark> it just kills my session
[00:30] <mikebot> Pelo: Thanks again.
[00:30] <nickrud> Malik_, ubuntu 7.10 comes with compiz , it's the successor to beryl
[00:31] <gyaresu> zubat: But for a n00b... He could just have fluxbox at least.
[00:31] <Malik_> sucessor?
[00:31] <Pelo> liquidengineer, it doesn'T need to be big,  but it needs to be on a bootable media, hence the cd .iso
[00:31] <flamsmark>  i'm having some trouble hibernation in 7.10 on a fujitsu p7230
[00:31] <flamsmark>  and when i say some trouble, the phrase i'm euphamising for is 'it doesn't work out of the box, and i son't know what to do about it'
[00:31] <heartsblood> crimsun: just so we're on the right page, you want me to try this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50788/
[00:31] <liquidengineer> Hmmm...Is it normal for half the instructions to be in spanish or something?  I'll feel stupid if I install a bootloader with the wrong localization... :D
[00:31] <flamsmark>  i do have the hibernate icon in the power options dialogue
[00:31] <zubat> gyaresu: lol good point
[00:31] <gyaresu> Malik_: desktop effects (I think it's in the system menu.)
[00:31] <flamsmark>  it just kills my session
[00:31] <Steven_X> anyone has a NV17 Nvidia card?
[00:31] <flamsmark>  which i guess is part of what it's meant to do
[00:31] <nickrud> flamsmark, look at /var/log/syslog , around the time you tried to hibernate there's probably a clue or two there
[00:31] <Pelo> !enter | flamsmark
[00:31] <ubotu> flamsmark: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:32] <Malik_> o so ubuntu 7.10 comes with beryl?
[00:32] <flamsmark> sorry pelo
[00:32] <crimsun> heartsblood: yes, but don't comment out spawn_options
[00:32] <Pelo> Malik_,  not , it comes with compiz
[00:32] <flamsmark> nickrud, what would i be looking for?
[00:32] <nickrud> Malik_, with compiz , see what I said about beryl being replaced
[00:32] <heartsblood> crimsun: roger. also what effect should I notice?
[00:32] <Malik_> o
[00:32] <Malik_> i get it now
[00:32]  * Pelo waves to nickrud  , he didn't notice him come in,  now the party can start 
[00:33] <Steven_X> I can't use compiz-fusion with my nVidia 420 go (17MB) card... anyone?
[00:33] <heartsblood> crimsun: resource sharing from the sound card, correct?
[00:33] <Malik_> alrite iam gunan install ubuntu again
[00:33] <Malik_> can i hav a person guiding me threw it
[00:33] <nickrud> flamsmark, for me, it told me my swap was too small. But look over the syslog, for hibernate
[00:33]  * nickrud sidles away, smiling sickly
[00:33] <Malik_> i got a 512 mb ram computer with 20 gb hd and i got xp on it which i wanan keep
[00:33] <crimsun> heartsblood: esd should release the sound device after 2 idle seconds
[00:33] <Malik_> so i wanan ubuntu and xp on it
[00:33] <nickrud> :)
[00:33] <flamsmark> okay nickrud, cheers
[00:33] <Malik_> can some1 help me gimem any adive or stuff i migth need ot know for installation
[00:34] <heartsblood> crimsun: well here goes nothing
[00:34] <mikebot> Pelo: I must be off, but hopefully the next time I have a problem you'll be around. Thanks a bunch again. Cheers.
[00:34] <mikebot> gyaresu: Thanks again. Night.
[00:34] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[00:34] <Tetracomm> Could someone help me with this?
[00:34] <nickrud> flamsmark, it'll probably be obvious, real near the switch from shutdown to startup
[00:34] <Tetracomm> This: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50784/plain/
[00:34] <Pelo> Malik_, the installer will guide you throught the proceedure with no problem it will just ask you to resize the windows partiton to it can make room for ubuntu and then it will install a bootloader menu with all the os on it
[00:35] <Pelo> !dualboot | Malik_
[00:35] <ubotu> Malik_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[00:35] <tim167> how can i make a keyboard shortcut to open the filebrowser ?
[00:35] <zubat> Malik_: on the ubuntu installation just select the option to resize your hardrive then you wil be able to duel boot windows and linux
[00:35] <Malik_> o...
[00:35] <nickrud> tim167, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts, there's a setting you can do there
[00:35] <gyaresu> Malik_: Well you should have backups of important xp data to start with but the ubuntu install cd will auto partition for you. My advice is to get a second hard drive just for linux alone. It will save you a lot of problems (mainly caused by windows).
[00:35] <Laney> Is there a way to do apt pinning on a PPA?
[00:35] <Malik_> r u serious?
[00:36] <gyaresu> Malik_: Yes.
[00:36] <Malik_> damn i hougth this was gunan be easy
[00:36] <tinman> bye bye
[00:36] <zubat> Malik_:it can be
[00:36] <tim167> nickrud, ah thanks, can i ad my own command there ?
[00:36] <Malik_> omg shit...can u guys help me with this other problem first
[00:36] <nickrud> Malik_, it's good advice if you have the money and bay space. But resizing is easy, as long as you backup first
[00:36] <ToddEDM> so a few days ago, i was told to use DVDshrink...... is there any better programs to copy a DVD?
[00:36] <Pelo> Malik_, it is easy,  just defrag,  backup and follow the instrucitons
[00:36] <gyaresu> Malik_: language.
[00:36] <Malik_> i was jus about to reboot  with the cd
[00:36] <Malik_> and i hit the stupid problem i always get
[00:36] <nickrud> tim167, a sec
[00:36] <heartsblood> crimsun: didn't work, I still get a device or resource busy when trying to play 2 occurences of *up.wav with aplay
[00:37] <Malik_> lemme explain...listen for a sec
[00:37] <Boruta> can someone help me turn my PC on? usplash: Permission denied on startup
[00:37] <Pelo> ToddEDM, that's pretty much it
[00:37] <Malik_> for some reason my computer doesn't turn on and sometimes it jus freezes when its on
[00:37] <Malik_> and id noto want that happ. on linux to
[00:37] <Pelo> Boruta, what ? please explain in more details
[00:37] <heartsblood> crimsun: is it possible to completely remove esd from my system without removing gnome?  I didn't have it with my stock install of 7.10 and everything worked great
[00:38] <gyaresu> Malik_: That's a hardware problem. Probably either ram or power supply but it could be anything. That's got nothing to do with the software running on it.
[00:38] <Malik_> and this blue windows comes sometimes
[00:38] <zubat> Malik_: when you say doesnt turn on do you mean the pc wont atully open or windows wont start
[00:38] <Boruta> well there is a rc script in etc/init.d folder
[00:38] <crimsun> heartsblood: no, libesd is tied to libgnome
[00:38] <nickrud> tim167, are you running compiz or the plain desktop?
[00:38] <heartsblood> crimsun: I can't remove or purge esound-common without removing the entire gnome desktop
[00:38] <Malik_> it doens't load os
[00:38] <heartsblood> crimsun: ><
[00:38] <Pelo> later folks
[00:38] <Malik_> and rite now when it was on i got this stupid blue screen
[00:38] <Boruta> this script calls unsplash daemon and it returns permission denied
[00:38] <nickrud> Pelo, see you soon. I guess it's gonna be a short party tonight
[00:38] <crimsun> heartsblood: make a new user, add it to the audio group, and see if the symptom persists
[00:38] <zubat> Malik_:thats why windows is bad
[00:38] <Boruta> and PC stops
[00:38] <Malik_> this was the eprfect computer for linux
[00:39] <Malik_> r u sure this is a windows problem
[00:39] <Boruta> i dont made any modification it worked until last session
[00:39] <truna> Boruta, did you modify anything recently under that /etc/init.d ?
[00:39] <Boruta> nothing
[00:40] <zubat> Malik_: you could reformat windows and this time install it on a 10GB part ion and the install ubuntu on a 10GB partition yes it is likley a windows problem
[00:40] <Malik_> how much space does jus the linux installation take upp?
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> about 4
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> 20 gig isnt much for a dual boot setup.. what about swap?
[00:41] <truna> Boruta, thats really odd, look at the time stamp in /etc/init.d and /etc/rcS.d to kind see if anything got modified recently
[00:41] <heartsblood> crimsun: sorry you'll have to refresh my memory how do I add a user to a group from the term?
[00:41] <bsdnewb07> id use more vmware or xen for 20gb lol
[00:41] <bsdnewb07> hardly worth a headache
[00:41] <nils__> server tsirc.dyn.pl
[00:42] <zubat> Malik_: ubuntu dont take much space but I think you should have at least 10gb to store your files
[00:42] <crimsun> heartsblood: sudo adduser user group
[00:42] <zubat> Malik_:10GB is small in its self
[00:42] <tim167> hmm i try to make a shortcut with Super L + E (that is, Windows key + E) but Keyboard Shortcuts doesn't allow me to type another key after Super L, that means i can only assign one function with that key, is there a way to use this in combination with another key ?
[00:42] <heartsblood> crimsun: ty
[00:42] <gyaresu> crimsun: any difference there with 'gpassword -a user group' ?
[00:42] <nickrud> tim167, yes, are you using compiz or the plain desktop
[00:42] <zubat> Malik_: Why do you still need windows to be installed?
[00:42] <truna> Malik what do you want to use the pc for? maybe a damn small linux with its small footprint adequate for your needs?
[00:43] <Roland2> hi, if i install ubuntu can I install after that office 2003 ( no openoffice )
[00:43] <crimsun> gyaresu: effectively, no
[00:43] <gyaresu> crimsun: cool. thanks.
[00:43] <tim167> nickrud, no idea, how do i see that? (its ubuntustudio)
[00:43] <nickrud> tim167, if you have wobbly windows or the cube, you have compiz.
[00:43] <sleepwal1> Anyone know why mplayer in firefox won't play movies...it justs buffrrs and freezes on "getting playlist"
[00:43] <Malik_> i jsu want windows
[00:43] <tim167> nickrud, plain desktop then
[00:43] <gyaresu> Roland2: if you have legit versions of crossover office and microsoft office then yes.
[00:43] <Malik_> jus so if i can't adapt to linux
[00:44] <Malik_> cause i always mess up with this stuff
[00:44] <allobjects> Roland2: do you mean MS Office ?
[00:44] <nano__> hi
[00:44] <gyaresu> Roland2: crossover office is like Wine.
[00:44] <gyaresu> !hi > nano__
[00:44] <Roland2> gyaresu : are you sure with crossover is going to work?
[00:44] <gyaresu> Roland2: Yes.
[00:44] <GepettoBR> Hi, this is the support channel, right?
[00:44] <gyaresu> GepettoBR: Yes.
[00:44] <zubat> Malik_: I see well you could just try out the live cd se if u adapt to that
[00:44] <GepettoBR> I'm a newbie looking for help
[00:44] <truna> Malik you have to open up your hearts and adapt Linux, she is gorgeous and easy... :)
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: What about running persistent mode off the cd and a usb stick until you get comfortable.. It wont be fast but it will work
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > GepettoBR
[00:45] <GepettoBR> I'm having a problem making Gutsy automount a partition
[00:45] <gyaresu> !ask > GepettoBR
[00:45] <zubat> Malik_: and stop being so negative:)
[00:45] <flamsmark_> nickrud, the last line i get before the break between the shutdown and my reboot is:
[00:45] <flamsmark_> Jan  4 19:34:07 Shadow kernel: [27304.472000] PM: suspend-to-disk mode set to 'shutdown'
[00:45] <gyaresu> GepettoBR: What filesystem on the partition?
[00:45] <Malik_> alrite i wotn be negative how do i run the live cd jus to try
[00:45] <GepettoBR> !ask
[00:45] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:45] <GepettoBR> ok thx
[00:45] <zubat> Malik_: just throw it in ure pc and reboot
[00:45] <nickrud> tim167 run gconf-editor, navigate to /apps/metacity in the left pane and open the tree there. You'll see keybindings_commands (where you put the command you want to run) and global keybindings, where you put the action key. <Super>t would be the windows key + t
[00:45] <nano__> i had a theoretical question about how alsa works, my understanding is that ALSA is loaded as a module, and furthermore, this module has its own generic drivers that are stored in /dev folder..........these drivers are completely different to any preloaded linux kernel drivers...is this correct?
[00:46] <heartsblood> crimsun: I added the user to the audio group but the gnome volume control gives me this error; "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control.  This means that you either don't have the right Gstreamer plugins installed, or that you dont have a sound card configured"
[00:46] <zubat> Malik_: do you use wireless?
[00:46] <GepettoBR> How do I make Gutsy x64 automount an NTFS partition on boot?
[00:46] <Malik_> na
[00:46] <zubat> Malik_: cool
[00:46] <truna> Malik make sure your pc can boot from a CD, so go to bios and make sure CD drive is the 1st to boot
[00:46] <Malik_> but i might
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Put it in the drive and power up.. Your system is most likely ablet to boot to a cd
[00:46] <Malik_> i hav wirless laptop though
[00:46] <gyaresu> nano__: Have you tried the alsa forums/irc room?
[00:46] <tim167> nickrud, ok thanks ill check that out
[00:46] <Malik_> omg...u guys were rong
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: If it does not boot.. then check bios/cmos for boot order
[00:46] <zubat> Malik_: ?
[00:46] <gyaresu> GepettoBR: You need ntfs-3g and then edit the /etc/fstab file
[00:46] <nano__> gyaresu> yes i have, i have read the alsa-howto but i want to make certain i fully understand
[00:46] <Malik_> its not a computer windows problem
[00:46] <Malik_> windows*
[00:46] <heartsblood> crimsun: aplay says can not find card ' '
[00:47] <Malik_> cause the cd wotn boot
[00:47] <nickrud> flamsmark_, try looking at the preceeding 30 or so lines as well
[00:47] <erUSUL> nano__: nope; in dev you only have the dev nodes (dev files) that are the userspace interface to the kernel modules that are the actual drivers
[00:47] <Pici> !enter
[00:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:47] <zubat> Malik_: no one said that
[00:47] <Malik_> if it didi boot then iw ould know its windows problem
[00:47] <Malik_> ppl did
[00:47] <zubat> Malik_: say what exactly?
[00:47] <crimsun> nano__: no, that's incorrect.
[00:47] <zubat> Malik_: that cd dont boot
[00:47] <Malik_> thats most lily its a windows problem
[00:47] <GepettoBR> gyaresu: I have Gutsy x86 on one machine and x64 on another. The x64 won't automount, but the fstab entries are identical
[00:47] <crimsun> heartsblood: did you log out of your primary user account?
[00:47] <nano__> erUSUL: but it is correct that alsa is simply a module, and it has its own drivers
[00:48] <nano__> crimsun: what exactly is incorrect
[00:48] <nickrud> tim167, and for the ones listed in keyboard shortcuts, you'll find those in /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings
[00:48] <allobjects> I have 1 x fast desktop and 1 x older desktop box. I would like to have the slower box to be a seemless lightweight client to the faster box. Does anyone recommend best approach ?
[00:48] <flamsmark_> nickrud, it doesn't seem like there's much about it there
[00:48] <erUSUL> nano__: alsa is an infrastructure to support the writting of sound drivers for linux the same way ndis is a infraestructure to build net drivers on windows (hence ndiswrapper)
[00:48] <gyaresu> GepettoBR: possible problem with the ntfs-3g package? Sorry I don't know.
[00:48] <nano__> that is what i have understood by reading the alsa-howto
[00:48] <Malik_> since the cd wont boot either it means its nto a windows problem but a compuetr problem
[00:48] <crimsun> nano__: your statement three minutes ago.
[00:48] <zubat> Malik_: 99.99% problems you get under that discrase of a OS is proberly windows fault
[00:48] <Malik_> so u donot be so negative aobu t windows
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Of course you need the standard livecd from ubuntu to run it...
[00:48] <heartsblood> crimsun: from gnome yes, however he is logged in as a tty term (I think it's called tty anyway.  alt-tab-f1 screen?)
[00:48] <gyaresu> Malik_: Have you changed the bios option to be able to boot from cd?
[00:48] <erUSUL> nano__: alsa uses many modules some are generic and some are to support a specific piece of hardware
[00:48] <nano__> hmmm so you are saying that alsa is analagous to ndiswrapper
[00:48] <crimsun> nano__: "alsa" has two components, a kernelspace- (alsa-kernel or alsa-driver) and a userspace-portion (alsa-lib).
[00:49] <GepettoBR> gyaresu: so I reinstall ntfs-3g? with sudo aptitude remove and sudo aptitude install?
[00:49] <Malik_> yea i always boot form cd
[00:49] <nickrud> flamsmark_, try looking further along in the startup, for anything about trying to return from suspend-to-disk
[00:49] <heartsblood> crimsun: should I log him out of the system completely?
[00:49] <zubat> Malik_: sorry but I relly hate windows I tried to make it work for me but no...it just plained sucked even bill gates admite it
[00:49] <erUSUL> nano__: no; no it is anologous to ndis on windows
[00:49] <crimsun> heartsblood: what does /proc/asound/cards show?
[00:49] <Malik_> no he didn;t
[00:49] <nano__> i mean ndiswrapper
[00:49] <gyaresu> GepettoBR: It might be a bug. Have you looked it up. x64 is usually more annoying for this sort of thing. (More underdeveloped)
[00:49] <zubat> Malik_: ha hold on 1 second ill try and find the article
[00:50] <crimsun> nano__: no, it's not similar to ndiswrapper, because it doesn't load any runtime device (hardware) information from a userspace file.
[00:50] <Malik_> alrite
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Are you in need of help with Ubuntu or not..
[00:50] <flamsmark_> nickrud the word 'suspend' appears only once in the log
[00:50] <Malik_> iam
[00:50] <gyaresu> Malik_: If you boot from some disks and can't boot from the ubuntu one then it's probably your drive not able to read that particular disk.
[00:50] <zubat> Malik_: read it man http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
[00:50] <GepettoBR> gyaresu: I've only looked on the forums, nothing woked (I posted a thread there just now). I'll check launchpad thx
[00:50] <tim167> nickrud, in keybinding_commands, i can add a key to command_1, but how do i define the command to run ?
[00:50] <Malik_> alrite but first lemme try and solve this problem
[00:50] <nano__> crimsun: the alsa-howto talked about alsa being a generic sound driver
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Did you verify the md5 of your download before the burn.  Did you test to see if it boots on any other syste or hardware?
[00:51] <erUSUL> nano__: alsa is a software library to write sound card driver for the linux kernel
[00:51] <heartsblood>  0 [V8237          ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[00:51] <heartsblood>                       VIA 8237 with ALC850 at 0xc000, irq 19
[00:51] <crimsun> nano__: very briefly, the kernelspace portions of alsa are composed of a glue layer, some generic core routines, and some specific drivers for codecs specific to your installed hardware.
[00:51] <heartsblood> sorry didn't mean to spam
[00:51] <Malik_> yea i did lal that
[00:51] <mete> hi. I've loaded the ubuntu-server i386 cd, and installed it. but it installs this kernel: 2.6.22-14-server SMP i686... why it installs the i686 server? :S
[00:51] <Malik_> the cd boots on my other computer
[00:51] <mete> äh.. i mean, kernel xD
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Did you have the cd do a self test for errors, did you md5 the cd..
[00:51] <heartsblood> crimsun: I posted your request without your name
[00:51] <Malik_> yes
[00:52] <Malik_> i followed all the steps
[00:52] <Malik_> o wait it finall booted
[00:52] <nickrud> tim167, you'd put the command in keybinding_commands (like for command 1 , gnome-terminal --geometry=80x50) and then the keybinding in global_keybindings (like run_command_1 , <Suuper>t)
[00:52] <crimsun> nano__: "alsa" is a "sound driver" and an "api".  If you understand the ambiguous usage, then you're halfway there.
[00:52] <gyaresu> mete: What chip do you have?
[00:52] <allobjects> Can someone recommend or have a link for using slower machine as lightweight client ?
[00:52] <Roland2> hi, trying to install ubuntu and I'm getting your pnp bios caused a fatal error attempting to continue ( kernel panic )
[00:52] <gyaresu> allobjects: Check out xubuntu
[00:52] <mete> gyaresu: intel 3000
[00:52] <gyaresu> mete: P4 then?
[00:53] <erUSUL> !edubuntu | allobjects
[00:53] <ubotu> allobjects: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[00:53] <nano__> crimsun: im not sure what you mean by ambiguous usage.....do you mean modularization
[00:53] <gyaresu> mete: 3000MHz?
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: How fast is this hardware... with only a 20 gig drive I suspect your system is not all that new.. How much ram.. if 256 only.. then how much is shared with the video card?
[00:53] <SoulinEther> does anyone know of a panel plugin / command line program that can issue a keyboard command?
[00:53] <Malik_> 512mb ram
[00:53] <crimsun> nano__: no, "ambiguous usage" refers to "sound driver" and "api".
[00:53] <mete> gyaresu: core2duo pentium 2x1.6ghz
[00:53] <SoulinEther> like, you click on it, and it does "Alt+F5"
[00:53] <flamsmark_> nickrud, although my swap doesn't seem to be initialising on startup
[00:53] <nickrud> flamsmark_, well, mine was a simple problem, some laptops simply have problems with hibernate at all. There's one more thing I can suggest:  remove   splash   from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst , I see a message about trying to resume from disk during startup
[00:53] <gyaresu> mete: Then that kernel is fine.
[00:53] <nickrud> flamsmark_, that would be an issue
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: What about cpu speed?
[00:54] <crimsun> heartsblood: does `aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` work for that user?
[00:54] <Malik_> wats that?
[00:54] <mete> gyaresu: Isn't the i686 kernel 64bit?
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: The specs on your system...
[00:54] <Malik_> where do i check that
[00:54] <gyaresu> mete: Nope. Just the i686 instruction set.
[00:54] <flamsmark_> nickrud on the hcl, my laptop is listed as hibernating fine
[00:54] <nickrud> flamsmark_, is swap referenced in /etc/fstab ?
[00:54] <nano__> crimsun: so a typical sound output consists of:  digital signal from program --> kernel --> alsa api --> alsa driver.....is this correct?
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: What make and model of hardware?
[00:54] <allobjects> gyaresu: erUSUL: thanks, aware of xubuntu etc but I mean I want an older machine to seemlessly run a session off another faster box
[00:54] <tim167> nickrud, oh sorry, now i see you said that already, Super! :)
[00:54] <Azrael24> hi guys...quick question, I have two media devices - dvd rom, and dvd ram...however under 'computer' I have CD-ROM 2...which I don't have and it reads 180 gigs - argh!  how do I get rid of it?  I even deleted the virtual drive (VirtualBox)...any suggestion please?
[00:54] <Malik_> its a compaq computer
[00:54] <mete> gyaresu: hmmh okay... :) thx
[00:54] <gyaresu> mete: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I686
[00:55] <crimsun> nano__: no.
[00:55] <Malik_> it finally booted the ubuntu cd lets jus see how that it for now
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: If you cant answer simple questions then I cant help.. sorry
[00:55] <flamsmark_> nickrud, no it's not
[00:55] <Malik_> can u tell me how i can do the test thing
[00:55] <zubat> Malik_: lets solve this what is the issue
[00:55] <Malik_> jus to check how linux is
[00:55] <dn4> does anyone know a good website for applications for computational magnetic fields?
[00:55] <gyaresu> allobjects: k12ltsp linux terminal server project
[00:55] <zubat> Malik_: does the live cd not work on ure pc
[00:55] <Malik_> rite now lets ignore the issure for a bit cause i wanan try the wununtu
[00:56] <Azrael24> Malik - do you know how to get into your bios?
[00:56] <flamsmark_> nickrud, is there a gui that i can use to rewrite fstab safely?
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: What is the make and model of your compaq
[00:56] <crimsun> nano__: a native alsa app using alsa natively progresses thusly:  app -> alsa-lib -> Linux (-driver/-kernel) -> audio hardware
[00:56] <Malik_> lemme go get the bookelt
[00:56] <Malik_> 1 sec
[00:56] <nickrud> flamsmark_, I have a line      UUID=dc34efb4-4ef5-4b03-8c17-465367b51e82 none            swap    sw       in my /etc/fstab , you can discover the uuid with  ls /dev/disks/by-uuid/* -l
[00:56] <eventualbuddha> i just got a message on boot saying that "An automatic file system check (fsck) of the root filesystem failed." and that it wants to start a maintenance shell. i typed in what i think is the root password and pressed enter, but nothing is happening. what should i do?
[00:56] <Malik_> i really apperchiate u ehlpin me out
[00:56] <nickrud> flamsmark_, not that I know of, but there might be
[00:57] <sleepwal1> hey guys I want to switch to the vlc-player for firefoxz instead of the mplayerplguin(its not working)...Im uinistalling mozilla-mplayer...wif I install vlc will it work?
[00:57] <nano__> crimsun: but i thought the whole purpose behind OSS/ALSA is to modularize sound and make it independent of the linux kernel
[00:57] <crimsun> nano__: an oss app using alsa's oss emulation progresses thusly: app -> alsa's oss emulation (/dev/dsp*, /dev/mixer*, /dev/audio*) -> Linux (-driver/-kernel) -> audio hardware
[00:57] <Azrael24> Malik - have you noticed when you turn your computer on, you'll see an option for 'boot menu'?
[00:57] <allobjects> gyaresu: thanks reading...
[00:57] <justmorbid> crimsun: ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1351:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[00:57] <justmorbid> aplay: main:545: audio open error: No such device
[00:57] <nickrud> flamsmark_, and   sudo fdisk -l   will list all your partitions, showing which is sway. If you like, you can put both outputs on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org & I'll help you make the line
[00:57] <crimsun> nano__: be careful when intermixing OSS and ALSA.  OSS is completely kernelspace.  ALSA has both kernelspace and userspace components.
[00:57] <Azrael24> ah nm...just read up
[00:57] <justmorbid> crimsun: <-- heartsblood.  The other account must have control over the sound card even though it's not logged into gnome
[00:58] <nano__> crimsun: the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper
[00:58] <etotheipi> why does running "exec test" close the terminal window?
[00:58] <etotheipi> :<
[00:58]  * nickrud makes a note to ask about mounting swap early in troubleshooting hibernate
[00:58] <Azrael24> hi guys...quick question, I have two media devices - dvd rom, and dvd ram...however under 'computer' I have CD-ROM 2...which I don't have and it reads 180 gigs - argh!  how do I get rid of it?  I even deleted the virtual drive (via VirtualBox)...any suggestion please?
[00:58] <Malik_> my compuetr is a compaq evo d310v
[00:58] <justmorbid> crimsun: i'm going to log my main account out of the system completely and see what happens
[00:59] <justmorbid> crimsun: restarting gnome 1 more time brb
[01:00] <flamsmark_> 'tis pasted nickrud
[01:00] <the7thmagus> is it possible to make a link (shortcut) to a folder on a FAT32 drive?
[01:00] <nickrud> flamsmark_, what're the urls?
[01:00] <crimsun> etotheipi: because that's what the shell builtin does.
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: That comes standard with a 40 gig drive...  cpu is celeron 1.7
[01:01] <flamsmark_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50790/
[01:01] <crimsun> etotheipi: more information can be found toward the end of the bash man page [if your user shell is bash].
 maybe 20gig is reserved for backing up compaq tend to do that but not with that much room
[01:01] <flamsmark_> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50790/ i linebroke them with some whitespace
[01:01] <Roland2> Jack_Sparrow : hi trying to install ubuntu and I'm getting your pnp bios caused a fatal error attempting to continue ( kernel panic )  any ideea? thx
[01:01] <Azrael24> the7...have you tried?  should work
[01:01] <Malik_> i think my big bro probably didi stuf to this
[01:01] <Malik_> but now he is gone to a diffrent country
[01:01] <the7thmagus> Malik: yes I have. it says it is not allowed
[01:01] <Malik_> but he probably jsu replaced the hd
[01:02] <Azrael24> Malik...how big is the drive?
[01:02] <Malik_> drive?
[01:02] <Azrael24> hd
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: they would not have 20 gig for a restore partition
[01:03] <zubat> zubat: true but im saying maybe when he played around with it he Didnt use the full 40 to install
[01:03] <nickrud> flamsmark_, I see them, but you didn't do ls /dev/disks/by-uuid -l , I don't see the links to the devices. I need to know which is /dev/sda1
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: That is not the point anyhow..  First he needs to get the cd to boot which it finally did.
 it did cool:D
[01:03] <Azrael24> anyone here know how to get rid of CD-ROM 2?  it's 180 gigs on my 7.10 for some reason
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: I have no problem with it being a 20 gig drive..  I dont hink you can even get a 20 any more.. so he may have just stuck in an old one for you
[01:04] <flamsmark_> nickrud: corrected at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50791/
[01:04] <heartsblood> crimsun: even with a full reboot the user I added can't get access to the sound card.  any ideas?
[01:05] <Malik_> so wats the big problem here .....do u want me to try runnign windows xp again and tell u wat the blue screen says
[01:05] <Malik_> cause it has this ocde on it to
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: No, dont care about that.. but if you plan on dual booting.. you really will have an easier time if you reinstall windows first.
[01:06] <heartsblood> whats the command to list the groups a user is in?
[01:06] <crimsun> heartsblood: did you add that user to the 'audio' group/
[01:06] <heartsblood> almost positive, but i'm trying to double check
[01:06] <ipzim> Anyone knows where I can get Apache2 init script for Ubuntu?
[01:06] <nickrud> flamsmark_, add the two lines at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50792/  to /etc/fstab
[01:06] <crimsun> heartsblood: groups user
[01:06] <ipzim> heartsblood: have a look at /etc/group
[01:06] <Malik_> forget that can u jsu tell me how to try ubuntu on the live cd withotu installing
[01:06] <crimsun> nano__: it's not very deep at all.  What's confusing?
[01:06] <Malik_> or would a memory test help?
[01:07] <heartsblood> apprently he's not.
[01:07] <tekteen> Malik_: Download and burn the live cd
[01:07] <flamsmark_> nickrud, should i remove the existing sda1 line?
[01:07] <Malik_> i didi
[01:07] <PurpZeY> Malik_: To run the LiveCD you just put it in and set your bios to boot to CD
[01:07] <nickrud> flamsmark_, what does it say?
[01:07] <Malik_> yes
[01:07] <tekteen> Malik_: reboot with it in the computer
[01:07] <Malik_> yes
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Once you fix or reinstall windows then come back and we will help you install ubuntu.  When you install windows it would be best if you create a 10 gig partition and install to that, but if you cant, ubuntu can resize to down to 10 gig for you beofre it installs
[01:07] <zubat> Malik_: so wats the prob
[01:08] <nano__> crimsun: i read the alsa-howto and it seems a little confusing
[01:08] <Malik_> where do i go form menu
[01:08] <Malik_> to jsu try ubuntu not insatll
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: Click on start
[01:08] <PurpZeY> Malik_: Just hit "start and install" it will not install
[01:08] <Msword> help resolution
[01:08] <heartsblood> crimsun: ok i'm 100% positive he's in the right group this time, restarting gnome brb
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Malik_: It will not install until it gets to a desktop icon where you will need to click an icon that clearly says INSTALL
[01:09] <Msword> grr, cant remember the commands.
[01:09] <wince> Is there an easy way to see all potential upgrades of installed packages in a repository I have pinned < 0 (say a backports repository) so that I can cherry pick the ones I want?
[01:09] <crimsun> nano__: where are you confused?
[01:09] <flamsmark_> it's in the paste bin at the bottom of the first post nickrud. there's a commented out sda1 title, then it has a real line with a different uuid as vfat
[01:09] <Malik_> okay
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> wince: you can use synaptic
[01:09] <Msword> i need help setting up the resolution to 1680 x 1050, if anyone could help
[01:09] <nano__> crimsun: for example, the howto gave me the idea that linux audio drivers do not enter the equation at all when OSS and ALSA are being used
[01:09] <nano__> crimsun: the whole purpose of ALSA is to modularize the audio system
[01:09] <wince> Odd-rationale: Does that deal with apt-pinning?
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:09] <allobjects> gyaresu: ltsp looks interesting but not sure if I want to go whole hog and have the lightweight client network boot
[01:10] <Msword> thanks jack_sparrow
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:10] <nano__> crimsun: the whole purpose of ALSA is to modularize the audio system.......is this assumption correct?
[01:10] <Odd-rationale> wince: apt-pinning?
[01:10] <nano__> crimsun: for example, the howto gave me the idea that linux audio drivers do not enter the equation at all when OSS and ALSA are being used
[01:10] <nickrud> flamsmark_, I was ignoring the vfat thing, so yes comment it out. What fat16 device do you have, anyway?
[01:10] <heartsblood> crimsun: It worked, and I was able to hear more than 1 instance of the sound
[01:10] <crimsun> nano__: OSS and ALSA are both "Linux audio drivers"
[01:11] <heartsblood> crimsun: so what does that mean, is my alsarc file screwing things up?
[01:11] <flamsmark_> i used to have another two partitions on this disk
[01:11] <flamsmark_> but they're gone
[01:11] <FastZ> I've run into some problems.  I just installed Madwifi-ng on my toshiba satellite and i have a perfect wireless connection with these drivers.  I have an Atheros AR5006EG (so lspci says) wireless adapter (built-in).  My problem is that I have kismet installed on this laptop but when I run sudo kismet, i'm told the following: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d55246789  IFCONFIG shows eth0, lo, and wlan0
[01:11] <nano__> crimsun: the purpose of OSS and ALSA is to make sound drivers independent such that a user need not recompile the kernel if a new sound card is installed
[01:11] <flamsmark_> nickrud,  i used to have another two partitions on this disk, but i reorganised it
[01:11] <nickrud> flamsmark_, how about putting up the edited /etc/fstab for luck :)
[01:12] <Odd-rationale> wince: Try opening synaptic. on the left column, select Custom fiters. then select Upgradeable. See if that helps
[01:12] <crimsun> heartsblood: if you're using the fairly common surround51 asoundrc, then it's not dmixed, so yes, that could very well explain it.
[01:12] <nickrud> flamsmark_, do you have a usbstick plugged in by any chance?
[01:12] <flamsmark_> it looks like i should actually remove some other useless things too nickrud one sec
[01:12] <josspyker> FastZ: edit kismet.conf
[01:12] <flamsmark_> nickrud, no, but i do have an sd-reader
[01:12] <nickrud> flamsmark_, just comment out first, I'll take a look if that's ok
[01:12] <nickrud> flamsmark_, that's probably it then
[01:12] <Msword> jack_sparrow, what would an ati 2400 pro graphics card need for a driver?
[01:13] <crimsun> nano__: that's correct, but modularity (i.e., *.ko) does not preclude a complete abstraction
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: select ati
[01:13] <nano__> crimsun: i gotta run, i got to do some more reading....thnx for your help....ttyl
[01:13] <crimsun> nano__: in alsa's case, nor does modularity consist of purely kernel or purely userspace.
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: Are you using gutsy?  have you tried to enable restricted drivers
[01:14] <zubat> Msword: if you want the most up to date ati drivers use envy
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: bad bad bad...
[01:14] <FastZ> josspyker:  here is my kismet.conf file  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5728f9de
[01:14] <PurpZeY> !envy | zubat
[01:14] <ubotu> zubat: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy > zubat
[01:14] <soldats> !envy
[01:14] <PurpZeY> Hahaha
[01:14] <FastZ> josspyker: what else in there should I modify?
[01:14] <Msword> jack_sparrow, how would i install that?
[01:14] <Msword> !envy
[01:14] <zubat> Jack_Sparrow, woot I used envy and Im running better than ever
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: Envy will wreck youe setup.. and cannot be easilly undone...
[01:15] <PurpZeY> !worksforme | zubat
[01:15] <ubotu> zubat: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme > zubat
[01:15] <flamsmark_> ok nickrud it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50793/
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> PurpZeY: :)
[01:15] <nickrud> Works for Me™ (I trademarked it)
[01:16] <zubat> Jack_Sparrow, ha okay I see you do have an excelent point I just never sqw anything wrong with it
[01:16] <matt__> just wondering if anyone has any experience with dell ubuntu. i am also wondering if anyone knows if the 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3 is a decent card, expecially in ubuntu.
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: We have.. every day... :)
[01:16] <zubat> Jack_Sparrow, :D
[01:16] <PurpZeY> zubat: There may not be anything wrong with it for you....It *might* work this guy...but it causes problems.
[01:16] <tim167> in my Keyboard Shortcuts, there is an entry '0xed' for 'launch music player', how do i know what key that is ?
[01:16] <Msword> jack_sparrow, i'm using 7.10, and no i haven't tried restricted drivers
[01:16] <zubat> true
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: When was the last time you upgraded?
[01:17] <nickrud> flamsmark_, looks good, try sudo swapon , then free (should show if swap is available)
[01:17]  * PurpZeY snickers at Jack_Sparrow
[01:17] <ferguscan> By default, my Ubuntu install doesn't retain history across bash or vim sessions.  How can I enable this functionality?
[01:17] <PurpZeY> Msword: Restricted drivers does what envy does.
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword:  Did you see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
i updated the drivers a week or so ago
[01:17] <FastZ> oops, i was pasting that stuff to the Ubuntu bug documentation pastebin by mistake
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> PurpZeY: No it does not
[01:17] <Beetle> hallo
[01:17] <PurpZeY> Jack_Sparrow: Perhaps I misspoke. It accomplishes that goal.
[01:17] <nickrud> tim167, you can run  xev  in a terminal, and then press keys while the mouse is in the white box. Should show you the keycodes
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: My question was.....When was the last time you upgraded?  Not updated...
[01:18] <tim167> nickrud, ok thanks again
[01:18] <flamsmark_> nuckrud, you mean save the fstab, then sudo swapon ?
[01:18] <nickrud> zubat, next kernel, you'll have a broken display
[01:18] <Msword> no
[01:18] <PurpZeY> Jack_Sparrow: My point was to tell him that Restricted Drivers does the job.
 i updated recently attuly
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> PurpZeY: When people try to upgrade to the next version is when we see the most problems with dependencies etc...
[01:18] <PurpZeY> Jack_Sparrow: I know.
[01:19] <heartsblood> crimsun: according to the alsa wiki "For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing" does that not hold true if I make my own asoundrc file?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: updated is NOT the same as upgraded...
[01:19] <drgeb> do you know which logs I can look for porblems if my XServer is restarting when I select "Custom" in Appearance Preferences  Visual Effects tab ?
[01:19] <Msword> jack_sparrow: no
[01:19] <dn4> can anyone recommend some open source software for visualizing the magnetic field of finite objects with electric current flowing through them?
[01:19] <function1> is alsa supposed to create an "/etc/asound.conf" by default?
[01:19] <crimsun> function1: no.
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: No what...?
[01:19] <wince> Odd-rationale: Never mind. If you don't know what apt-pinning is you don't understand the question.
[01:19] <PurpZeY> dn4: huh ?
[01:19] <wince> Odd-rationale: Thanks anyway
 ah okay
[01:20] <tim167> Oops, something went wrong, seems like the <Super> key hangs, now i can't type e anymore, it always opens my home folder!
[01:20] <function1> crimsun: thanks for quick response!
[01:20] <gyaresu> dn4: That sounds awesome.
[01:20] <Odd-rationale> wince: Sorry
 never
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: the idea was for you to type  « /msg ubotu binarydriver »  without the >>
[01:20] <flamsmark_> nickrud, do i need to pass some parameters with swapon?
[01:20] <crimsun> heartsblood: generally, correct.  You need to remember to add the appropriate dmix section if applicable.
[01:20] <nickrud> flamsmark_, no
[01:20] <progcesar> hey
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: So then you have something to look forward to....
[01:20] <heartsblood> crimsun: yea i'm reading how to do that now
  and why is thaaat??
[01:21] <flamsmark_> well, it's just giving me 'usage: swapon [-hV]..."
[01:21] <nickrud> flamsmark_, hm, maybe swapon -a
[01:21] <Msword> jack_sparrow, it tells me it knows nothing
[01:21] <tim167> hmm, Keyboard Shortcuts changed <Super>e to just E...strange
[01:21] <function1> crimsun: know your way around alsa?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: You used envy.. when you try to upgrade... I expect you will lose your fondness for envy when your system breaks
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[01:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:21] <nickrud> tim167, keyboard shortcuts is a bit brain dead
[01:21] <WNxCryptic> Muwahahaha! I got vsftpd and apache2 working! Now only my modules are left
[01:22] <crimsun> function1: yes.
[01:22] <WNxCryptic> Is there a way to support asp.net on a linux web server?
  YES I CANT WAIT seeing my system brake is going to be so fun:D
[01:22] <WNxCryptic> I thought I read something about "mono" or something like that
[01:22] <PurpZeY> zubat: It will be a pita
[01:22] <nickrud> tim167, you can do smarter changes at /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings
[01:22] <zubat> :(
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: I am not happy about it either...  just trying to prepare you
  thanks
[01:23] <flamsmark_> nickrud
[01:23] <tim167> nickrud, yes i added <Super>e there, but it results in opening home with just e too!
[01:23] <flamsmark_> nickrud, that worked
[01:23]  * nickrud admires crimsun's skill at understatement
  will it still happen if I configured xorg myself:)
[01:23] <soldats> tim167, super should actually be Super_L or Super_R
[01:24] <tim167> soldats, yes, same with Super_L
[01:24] <nickrud> tim167, odd.
[01:24] <flamsmark_> nickrud, thanks. might not help me with my hibernation problem, but one down, as they say. i'm off, i have a plane to catch in seven hours, and i haven't packed. cheers
[01:24] <nickrud> flamsmark_, ok if you have swap according to free, try a suspend
[01:24] <function1> crimsun: i'm having a very strange problem.. multiple apps can definitely output audio simultaneously (dmix is enabled by default i guess and i believe i have a hardware mixer), but i have one sucker app that tells me "snd_pcm_open ... busy" when i tell it to use alsa when something else is making audio
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: If you ran envy to install the drivers, it is still a strong concern
[01:24] <Msword> jack_sparrow, i put in my model(Radeon ATI HD 2400 PRO) into the text box, it got to the next promt, and won't do anything when i press enter
[01:25] <flamsmark_> nickrud, no harm in trying
  hmmm okay how do i update then I wont to see this problem right know I want to get into it then try and get out I like doin tat:)
[01:25] <function1> crimsun: should probably be asked in a support group for that app, but any idea how that could be happening, when everything else works fine?
[01:25] <flamsmark_> there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: If you are running sudo dpkg.... you need to only select the ati card.. dont try to put the info in yourself...  just select the defaults after that...
[01:26] <nickrud> soldats, when did that change, it used to work fine
[01:26] <crimsun> function1: depends whether that app respects 'default' or attempts to open 'hw:X,Y' or 'plughw:X,Y' directly.
[01:26] <crimsun> function1: sane native alsa apps do the former
[01:26] <Msword> jack_sparrow, i just checked the restricted drivers thing, and it told me i didn't need any?
[01:26] <ipzim> Unable to execute /etc/init.d/apache2 ... why is that?
[01:26] <crimsun> function1: it's difficult to troubleshoot without knowing more configuration information regarding which apps are in play, though
[01:26] <tim167> I'll even after restarting X, seems like the Super_L key is stuck or something...man as soon it has the word windows in it smells like trouble ;)
[01:27] <crimsun> function1: which audio card are you seeing that error with?
[01:27] <function1> crimsun: yea, the interface doesnt tell me much of what its doing.. i can pick "HDA Intel hardware" or "HDA Intel plugin" but it doesnt tell me if its using default or a specific card index
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Msword: Then it is up to date, or as up to date as the ati drivers are without trying them manually...  Did you see the link on installing the binary drivers..
[01:27] <soldats> nickrud, you mean the super keys, if so, ive always known them as super_l and super_r im not sure if "xev" in terminla works in ubuntu like it does in xubuntu but it will tell you the keycode for any key so 'e' should be mapped "Super_L+e"
[01:28] <function1> crimsun: yea HDA Intel, chipset is something like AD1981HD
[01:28] <crimsun> function1: the majority of those chipsets do not support native multiopen.
[01:28] <crimsun> function1: thus, dmix&dsnoop are necessary
[01:28] <nrober> when I add anything to the startup sessions, whatever i added isn't saved, when i close the sessions window, the changes ive made are gone, anyone know how to fix this?
[01:28]  * Pelo wants this to be the next default theme , or something in the same line  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/gelatin
[01:28] <monkeyguru> guys - how do i view available channels on freenode in IRC?
[01:28] <nickrud> soldats, it must be something going on with keyboard shortcuts, since compiz uses <Super> and metacity responded to it (recently, anyway)
[01:29] <function1> crimsun: ok ok. well i guess dmix is doing its job otherwise, because with *everything* else, the multiple streams are mixed to mush.
[01:29] <Colorshade> Hum.. can I "redirect" all my sound to a USB Soundcard, so that every sound (including startup sounds and, for instance: YouTube) is redirected through the USB soundcard?
[01:29] <Pelo> nrober, start all the progs you want on startup, close all the oens you don'T , go to sesson and then save
[01:29] <hello_> Hello! Ever since yesterday, whenever Firefox tries to load anything in Flash (like on YouTube) it freezes. Yesterday I was trying to watch the Caucus on my computer and it had me install some Mplayer thing, but I can't remember what I installed. How can I get flash to work again?
[01:29] <zubat> how do i update
[01:29] <nrober> pelo, i tried that, didn't work
[01:29] <nonXero> how can I change the default window manager in ubuntu from the command line?
[01:29] <flamsmark> nickrud, well, that didn't work
[01:29] <function1> crimsun: could i do strace or something to see if its going for default or hw:*?
[01:30] <Pelo> Colorshade,  goto menu > system < prefs  > sounds  and set all the sounds to use the usb card
[01:30] <flamsmark> anyway, thanks for the help
[01:30] <Malik_> hey do u guys kno where i can find a c omputer help channel
[01:30] <soldats> nickrud, hmm strange, i dont like all the fancy stuff like compiz but if "xev" works give it a try, ill have to look into it soemday and try compiz :P
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo.. I didnt know you were Swedish
[01:30] <PurpZeY> Malik_: For what kind of problems?
[01:30] <Pelo> nrober, that is the way to do it, and untick the automaticaly save sesson
[01:30] <Malik_> the 1 iam having
[01:30] <nickrud> soldats, if you keep most of the effects off, it's actually a nice desktop. I do like expose
[01:30] <Colorshade> Pelo, thanks, yeah, I knew that, but that doesn't allow me to redirect any other sounds than the Totem player and music player.. :(
[01:30] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  No I just type badly tonight
[01:30] <nonXero> anyone... ?
[01:30] <nrober> pelo, i'll try it again, maybe i didn't untick thte box
[01:30] <PurpZeY> Malik_: What is the problem?
[01:30] <Pelo> Colorshade,  are hyou sure ?
[01:31] <Colorshade> Pelo, yup
[01:31] <Malik_> this is my problem: whe i run windowx xp after a like a 15 minutes of it runnign i get this wierd blue screen and when i restart i cant load my os until i wait liek for 3 hrs
[01:31] <crimsun> function1: strace won't reveal anything relevant; you want ltrace.
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo: I was looking at the theme you linked...  Sorry the sarcasm was lost in translation  and sorry for the ot
[01:31] <Malik_> and kicking the computer jelps make it work sometimes...lol
[01:31] <flamsmark> 'night
[01:31] <PurpZeY> Malik_: #windows
[01:31] <Pelo> Colorshade,  I see event sound , music and vedieo and conference audio listed
[01:31] <Malik_> its nto a windows problem
[01:31] <Colorshade> I'll try, just to be sure..
[01:32] <PurpZeY> Malik_: #hardware
[01:32] <Colorshade> The "event sound" is rather new to me
[01:32] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, I missed it , please explain in pm
[01:32] <Shadix> hey what is a good sized partition for my /home
[01:32] <Malik_> isn;t ther any liek #computer
[01:32] <Pelo> Colorshade,  loosely translated , my os is in french
[01:32] <Pelo> not sweedish
[01:32] <nickrud> Shadix, whatever's left over after giving around 10-15gb to / and up to 2gb to swap
[01:32] <Colorshade> Pelo, yeah, but it was correctly translated.. :)
[01:32] <PurpZeY> Malik_: #hardware, #windows.....I dunno what else you'd be looking for?
[01:33] <Shadix> thx
[01:33] <Shadix> nickrud, is the mang
[01:33] <soldats> nickrud, cool, well i have xubuntu woth xfce now and i enjoy it too much, but ill have to try it on another box i have
[01:33] <Malik_> where can i find #windows
[01:33] <PurpZeY> Malik_: /join #windows
[01:33] <nickrud> soldats, choice, it's heaven
[01:33] <soldats> :P
[01:33] <nrober> pelo, didn't work, it remembered programs, but didn't remember awn or screenlets
[01:34] <tim167> xev doesnt show  what ctrl+f results in, it only shows the separate keys (0xffe3 and 0x66)...or am i missing something ?
[01:34] <Pelo> nrober, add them  manualy to the list
[01:34] <nrober> pelo, when i do that, it doesn't remember them, as soon as i close the sessions manager window, the changes i've made are gone...
[01:35] <zubat> I just updated and envy or x did not fail me
[01:35] <Pelo> nrober, try making launchers and putting them in  ~/.config/autostart
[01:35] <soldats> nickrud, sometimes i kinda enjoy trying to figure out how to edit stuff on xfce since its more restricted, and give a little more gnomeISH flexability
[01:35] <nonXero> anyone know how to change the default window manager from command line?
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: Updated and upgraded are NOT the same as I said before.. please stop with the works for me and envy references
[01:35] <gyaresu> zubat: The are telling you 'upgrade' to recent version.
[01:36] <nonXero> I tried adding startfluxbox in my home directory but it's still loading gnome from gdm.
[01:36] <nonXero> to .xinitrc
[01:36] <dn4> can anyone recommend some open source software for visualizing the magnetic field of finite objects with electric current flowing through them?
[01:36] <Pelo> crap , the sound just went out of sync on this vid I'm watching
[01:36] <nickrud> soldats, if you're into tweaking your window manager, you might like http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm
[01:36] <soldats> nonXero, if you use gdm just click fluxbox and tell it to be the default on login
[01:37] <Pelo> dn4, try googling
[01:37] <zubat> okay sorry for my rubbish talk:) but explain what u mean update?
[01:37] <nonXero> soldats: I need to do it from command line in a chrooted environment
[01:37] <PurpZeY> dn4: Is there a windows version? why not try wine if you have to?
[01:37] <sk_> hello
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[01:37] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:37] <function1> crimsun: i ltraced for snd_pcm_open, see a couple of args in hex...
[01:37] <nonXero> I can't startx from the chroot.
[01:37] <gyaresu> zubat: update is recent versions of software | upgrade is feisty >> gutsy >> hoary >>
[01:37] <soldats> nickrud, lol i think you were the one who told me about that in offtopic, i really want to try it but i havent had the time but i will soon thansk for the link though i forgot it
 thanks that cleared things up
[01:38] <hello_> Hello. I'm trying to remove Firefox, but when I try it tells me that it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop. How do I just remove Firefox?
[01:38] <sk_> so i tried to get my broadcom card working with no success, i've tried the rescrition driver thing, ndiswrapper and fw cutter any different firmware
[01:38] <sk_> any=and
[01:39] <soldats> sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> sk_: Are you still fighting that bcm943xx
[01:39] <Pelo> hello_,  remove without worry, ubuntu-desktop is jsut a meta package to make isntallation easier
[01:39] <sk_> yeah
[01:39] <sk_> :(
[01:39] <zubat> hello_: sudo apt-get remove firefox not work?
[01:39] <gyaresu> zubat: so things break on upgrade because they expect the system to be default.
[01:39] <sk_> i got it to work before with feisty in like 30 minutes
[01:39] <sk_> something is wrong with this release
[01:39] <geoff_> ive lost my windows partition from grub on my dual boot... how do I get it back?
[01:39] <hello_> Actually, do you guys know how to just somehow uninstall Flash?
[01:39] <Pelo> geoff_, same hdd ?
[01:39] <crimsun> function1: you should be ltracing for 'default' or 'hw'
[01:39] <geoff_> Pelo, yes
[01:39] <Pelo> geoff_, hold on , I'll give you lines to add
 I see what does envy do to cause this exact problem
[01:39] <PurpZeY> hello_: You know there is an issue with flash right now?
[01:40] <hello_> PurpZeY: No, I don't
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[01:40] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:40] <mete_> is it possible to remove all xubuntu-desktop packages from my ubuntu-server installation? (I installed these with aptitude)
[01:40] <PurpZeY> !flash hello_
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash hello_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <PurpZeY> !flash | hello_
[01:40] <ubotu> hello_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:40] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> zubat: Read the livejournal on that link
[01:40] <hello_> How long will the official fix take?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> hello_: No idea
[01:40] <Pelo> geoff_, meet me in #pelo so we don't spam the chanel
[01:41] <SoulinEther> anyone know how to issue a KeyPress X event using the command line? is there a program to do this?
[01:41] <geoff_> Pelo, im there
[01:42] <soldats> SoulinEther, in terminal do "man xmodmap"
[01:42] <YouKnowMe> http://pastebin.com/d5b2b1eb  This means I have bad permissions right? I tried running slimserver as root, but I get the same thing. The file it is stuck on is owned by root. Help?
[01:43] <Pelo> YouKnowMe, change the owner of the file   man chown
[01:44] <function1> crimsun: yea its going for hw:0
[01:44] <Xintruder> hey guys
[01:44] <SoulinEther> soldats: I dont want to change the keymaps or anything, i want to find a way to .. say... issue keystrokes from within a command line
[01:44] <Xintruder> im on ubuntu for the first time :D !!!
[01:45] <Pelo> Xintruder, wwelcome to the madhouse
[01:45] <PurpZeY> SoulinEther: Sounds like you want a script to run
[01:45] <YouKnowMe> Pelo, I just realized I was talking about a different file/problem. But, with this one, I cannot find the file.
[01:45] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: welcome
[01:45] <Xintruder> Pelo: thanks!!!
[01:45] <gellioth> welcome Xintruder
[01:45] <function1> crimsun: so maybe this isnt "sane", but hw:0 is the audiocard..
[01:45] <Xintruder> PurpZeY: Thanks!! thanks all
[01:45] <soldats> SoulinEther, define keystokes, i thougt you wanted to do some key combos my bad
[01:45] <SoulinEther> PurpZeY: perhaps... any ideas? lol
[01:45] <Pelo> YouKnowMe, try asking for help in ##linux maybe they will know
[01:45] <PurpZeY> SoulinEther: What is it your trying to accomplish at the end of the day?
[01:45] <Pelo> Xintruder, how are you enjoying the experience sofar &
[01:45] <Pelo> ?
[01:46] <crimsun> function1: opening hw: or plughw: bypasses dmix&dsnoop.  Bug the app devel.
[01:46] <Xintruder> how do i know how much free space I have available?
[01:46] <Xintruder> in /home, that is
[01:46] <Pelo> Xintruder, it usualy says so in the status bar at the botom of nautilus , when no files are selected
[01:46] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: Just open up home in a browser look in the lower part of the window
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Xintruder: nautilus
[01:47] <SoulinEther> At the very end of the day? ...well, a xfce panel that displays the name of the currently active window, and buttons that will press alt+f4, alt+f5 and such. but... since im not sure of how the heck xfwm works or how i would do that... i just want to know if i can like, run a script that will do that
[01:47] <Pelo> Xintruder,  you can also check in the last tab of system monitor
[01:47] <function1> crimsun: o wow. cool. so i can just edit src then and replace "hw:*" with "default"? or is there some flag or something to use as default, do you know
[01:47] <duvnel1> what's the best gui I can use to create cd-r/cd-rws?
[01:47] <SoulinEther> that will press alt+f4 within x
[01:47] <tuntun> !flash
[01:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:47] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> duvnel1: K3B
[01:47] <PurpZeY> duvnel1: There is one built in, if you put in blank CDs.
[01:47] <Xintruder> ok ok thanks, this so cool....... !!!!!
[01:47] <Pelo> duvnel1, gnomebaker for gnome , k3b for kde
[01:47] <duvnel1> thx
[01:47] <Xintruder> lol i Only have 2.5 gigs available >< !
[01:47] <crimsun> function1: you shouldn't need to edit source if the app is sanely coded.  It should be able to be configured at runtime.  See the app's runtime options.
[01:48] <hello_> I installed the version of Flash from that link, but Firefox still freezes when Flash video tries to load
[01:48] <duvnel1> I like k3b, but didn't want to start up the kde subsystem if not necessary
[01:48] <geoff_> Pelo, nope error 13 non executable format?
[01:48]  * Pelo thinks Xintruder will be very easy to impress
[01:48] <Pelo> geoff_, hmm,  open  gparted, make sure the ntfs partition is flagged to boot
[01:48] <PurpZeY> SoulinEther: That sounds like a fairly complicated script...or at least, something that is not just fly by night....If you want to know for sure if it can be scripted ask in #xubuntu or even #python perhaps
[01:49] <Xintruder> ok.... I need to transfer some documents from another PC into this pc, on an ntfs partition.. Is that possible? The other pc will use ubuntu live cd version... ?
[01:49] <Pelo> geoff_, this is for booting windows xp right ?
[01:49] <geoff_> Pelo, yes
[01:49] <SoulinEther> PurpZeY: k, thanks. I was thinking python might be the answer. and people in xfce are mostly asleep
[01:49] <Knoll318> this seems interesting
[01:49] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: How are you going to transfer them?
[01:49] <soldats> xfce is very slow
[01:49] <Pelo> Xintruder, how are you doing this transfer,  usb card, network ? what ?
[01:49] <Xintruder> PurpZeY:  through my wireless network??
[01:50] <PurpZeY> SoulinEther: Sounds like python perhaps....My scripting knowledge is limited.
[01:50] <Xintruder> Im not sure where to start though
[01:50] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: That will need Samba probably....No liveCD needed...XP and Ubuntu play nice using samba
[01:50] <mikebot> How can I look up errors from gnomebaking?
[01:50] <Pelo> geoff_, pastebin your menu.lst file and the output of typing blkid in the terminal
[01:50] <SoulinEther> awesome PurpZey! I found a page using google that is completely to my liking
[01:50] <Pelo> !pastebin | geoff_
[01:50] <ubotu> geoff_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <kebinusan> Im toying with a dual display setup and when I have a game maximized on one display, is there a way I can keep my mouse from wandering over to the second display
[01:50] <SoulinEther> ew i didnt capitalize the Y
[01:50] <Xintruder> not XP >< , a crapy vista!
[01:50] <geoff_> Pelo, i know pastebin =)
[01:50] <msword> hello, i have two blank partitions that aren't next to my partition, that i want to add on to my partition
[01:51] <msword> how can i do this
[01:51] <jack_> can anyone help me ... im trying to create an iso any help on this please?
[01:51] <Xintruder> will smaba work on vista?
[01:51] <function1> crimsun: i can specify audiooutdev for audio out devices, but looks like it wants numbers.. (ambiguous)
[01:51] <PurpZeY>  jack_: An ISO of Ubuntu?
[01:51] <jack_> yes
[01:51] <Xintruder> !samba
[01:51] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:51] <jack_> PurpZeY: yes
[01:51] <crimsun> function1: what's the syntax noted?
[01:51] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I don't know, check the manuals.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> msword: gparted can do it .. but please read up on uuid so you will understand what happened when it does not boot.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[01:52] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:52] <PurpZeY> jack_: Very easy, just download the ISO, then use the freeware provided on the download page
[01:52] <jack_> i cant create one from the disc i have?
[01:52] <geoff_> Pelo, http://pastebin.com/m44ada67f
[01:52] <function1> crimsun: it says "-audioindev ...  -- audio in devices; e.g., "1,3" for first and third" and same for audiooutdev
[01:52] <Pelo> geoff_, hold on
[01:52] <jack_> PurpZeY: i cant create one from the disk i have?
[01:52] <geoff_> lol gparted is stuck....
[01:52] <PurpZeY> jack_: If you already downloaded a recent version of the ISO you can use that
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: Yes you can create an iso from a cd that you have
[01:53] <msword> jack_sparrow: how exactly can gparted do this? i can't figure out how to
[01:53] <ravun> anyone know how to delay something from starting for a few seconds?  I'm trying to add a startup session but I want to make it wait 10 seconds first.
[01:53] <winlover_41> I'm trying to dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu. I have about 30 GB of unallocated space. If I choose "Guided - use the largest continuous free space", will the installer mess with my Windows partitions during the install?
[01:53] <crimsun> function1: eek, so it does seem hardcoded to hw:
[01:53] <jack_> Jack_Sparrow: how do i do this?
[01:53]  * PurpZeY hears Jack_Sparrow's line echo "when your system won't boot...." 
[01:53] <Pelo> geoff_, I thought both ubuntu and windows were on the same hdd, sorry
[01:53] <function1> crimsun: aye
[01:53] <Pelo> geoff_, meet me in #pelo again
[01:54] <hello_> I don't think my flash problem is the one everyone else is describing. Some flash videos load (like the bar at the top of YouTube), but some freeze things up
[01:54] <geoff_> Pelo, my fault i may have said they were without realizing it
[01:54] <PurpZeY> jack_: On the Ubuntu website there are instructions and software provided for burning the CD....It is really easy if you just use those steps, and it will ensure the CD is done right
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> msword: I would suggest the gparted livecd to do it.. Further I would suggest that you use the other tow existing partitions for /home and /var or some other rather than combining them all.
[01:54] <Xintruder> PurpZeY: is using Samba the simplest way to do this via network?
[01:55] <function1> crimsun: i guess its a matter of reading up on libasound then?
[01:55] <PurpZeY> Xintruder: I've never done it, but the last time I toyed with the idea that was what I intended to do, and that's what almost everyone suggests
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: I would do it with the dd command from a cli.. assuming you have a working ubuntu / linux install.
[01:55] <jack_> i have the cd i dont need to create it ... i just want to make an iso image to have backed up
[01:55] <msword> jack_sparrow, is there any way i can use the ubuntu live cd to do this? i need to combine these partitions into my windows partition, because i need a little more space for it
[01:55] <PurpZeY> jack_: Oh I misunderstood
[01:55] <PurpZeY> !iso | jack_
[01:55] <ubotu> jack_: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:55] <a1fa> anybody have neomagic nm2200 video card?
[01:55] <jack_> Jack_Sparrow: lil more detail on this?
[01:56] <crimsun> function1: you can, but it's really just making the device configurable _after_ defaulting to 'default'.
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> msword: the gparted live is only about 50 meg download.. or you can use gparted in windows to do it
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: Trying but a bit busy.. one sec..
[01:56] <Pelo> a1fa, a specific question is more likely to get you an answer
[01:56] <gellioth> Why my gutsy dont recognize my pendrive and my fiesty made it?
[01:56] <PurpZeY> gellioth: Did you eject it?
[01:56] <jack_> ubotu: thanx
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: Create ISO of CD Rom...dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/YourUserName/Desktop/file.iso bs=2k
[01:56] <Pelo> msword, I don't think gparted will let you make a ntfs partiton bigger, and you can'T just combine partitions,  and keep the data safe
[01:56] <gellioth> yes PurpZeY
[01:57] <gellioth> any idea?
[01:57] <mikebot> Does anyone know about gnomebaking errors?
[01:57] <function1> crimsun: ehh i dont follow. i posted on a community forum.. but maybe i should put this on the app's mailing list for a dev to see
[01:57] <Pelo> mikebot, gnomebaker
[01:57] <kevogod> Does anyone know where I can find the Giraffe background without the Ubuntu logo in 4:3 ratio?
[01:57] <vwhydrowv> hello, i could seriously use some help with this, newbie in ubuntu and im lost
[01:57] <PurpZeY> gellioth: What happens when you put in the flash drive?
[01:57] <Pelo> mikebot, what problem are you having, you should know by now to ask specific quesitons
[01:57] <mikebot> Pelo: Right, gnomebaker
[01:57] <vwhydrowv> ive just installed server edition and im trying to get to the gui
[01:57] <mikebot> Pelo: Sorry. I get the following error:
[01:57] <RazzoRz> Hey folks, Just reinstalled Ubuntu, 7.10,   now i have Shutdown and Restart that just Hangs until i power down the laptop..
[01:58] <jack_> THANKS ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:58] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: server edition doesn't have a gui, do you want to install the gui?
[01:58] <Pelo> vwhydrowv, no gui on the server,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-destkop
[01:58] <vwhydrowv> purpzey
[01:58] <vwhydrowv> yes
[01:58] <vwhydrowv> ok thanks
[01:58] <Torias> I just wanted to say, hello. I am new to Linux and just had a question about having a dual os.
[01:58] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <Pelo> Torias, ask the qeustions
[01:58] <PurpZeY> Torias: Ask away.
[01:58] <gellioth> nothing, I can see it for a few moment but then it dissapears PurpZeY
[01:58] <mikebot> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/m2ee74665
[01:59] <PurpZeY> gellioth: Is it mounted?
[01:59] <Torias> Well I do want to keep windows, do to the fact that some software I won't be able to use on Linux.
[01:59] <RazzoRz> Hey folks, Just reinstalled Ubuntu, 7.10,   now i have Shutdown and Restart that just Hangs until i power down the laptop.. has anyone see this b4?
[01:59] <vwhydrowv> wow, do i need the disk purpzey?
[01:59] <Pelo> mikebot, what are yo trying to burn to the cd ?
[01:59] <gellioth> nop PurpZey
[01:59] <Torias> I do have two hard drvies, and want to know exactly how I can use my D-Drive as a seperate os system
[01:59] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: No, it installs from the repos
[01:59] <vwhydrowv> great
[01:59] <PurpZeY> gellioth: So, as far as the software is concerned isn't there at all?
[01:59] <mikebot> Pelo: It's an image that I used k9copy to get from another DVD. (I'm baking up DVDs.)
[01:59] <kevogod> Torias, What is the other OS?
[01:59] <Pelo> Torias, when ou install ubuntu jsut tell it to install to that hdd
[01:59] <gellioth> yes
[02:00] <vwhydrowv> it says please insert the disk and press enter
[02:00] <Mr_Jfrsn> anyone in? i could really use some help .. im trying to zero a drive because of dells crap mediathing it installs .. im using ubuntu live cd and command "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" is that correct ?
[02:00] <PurpZeY> gellioth: Does the drive work on other machines?
[02:00] <Torias> The os that I have on C-Drive is Windows XP
[02:00] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Go to synaptic and turn off "CD" as a source for software
[02:00] <PurpZeY> Oh
[02:00] <PurpZeY> no gui
[02:00] <Torias> SP2
[02:00] <pdenapo> Hi, I want to ask a question: I'm having the following trouble, my folders in kmail get orderered in reverse alphabetical order, how can I get them sorted in the correct order?
[02:00] <MrFeeti1> just pop the ubuntu disk in and install it on the d drive
[02:00] <vwhydrowv> yeah, how?
[02:00] <vwhydrowv> lol
[02:00] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: You have to take the CD out of sources.list
[02:00] <pdenapo> ] <pdenapo> Hi, I want to ask a question: I'm having the following trouble, my folders in kmail get orderered in reverse alphabetical order, how can I get them sorted in the correct order?
[02:00] <kevogod> Torias, If you install Ubuntu to the drive that does not have XP on it, the bootloader that Ubuntu installs will be able to access XP at startup.
[02:00] <Pelo> mikebot, make sure the proper dvd is selected when you get to the last dialog, and leave everyting to auto ,  make sure it is a dvd that is in the drive
[02:00] <MrFeeti1> ubuntu will set up grub as a bootloader
[02:00] <vwhydrowv> can you walk me through how?
[02:00] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Or use the CD. Either one.
[02:00] <mikebot> Pelo: And I haven't weatched the entire thing. but it works in VLC media player.
[02:01] <vwhydrowv> i can put the cd in
[02:01] <winlover_41> I'm trying to dual-boot Vista and Ubuntu. I have about 30 GB of unallocated space. If I choose "Guided - use the largest continuous free space", will the installer mess with my Windows partitions during the install?
[02:01] <gellioth> yes it works in windows and in ubutnu 7.04 PurpZeY, strange no?
[02:01] <hello_> I removed Firefox and deleted .mozilla, but even when I reinstlal somehow Flash isn't gone. How do I get rid of this?
[02:01] <vwhydrowv> probably easier
[02:01] <function1> crimsun: o i think its working. theres also an "-alsaadd <name>" runtime option, to which i gave "default". then in gui i picked this device for output, though it showed up as a blank entry. (and i think its a little bit quiet). but works. should i still submit it as a bug you think? sane apps should go to "default" device you say?
[02:01] <MrFeeti1> no it will leave windows alone
[02:01] <mikebot> Pelo: It was the right iso, and it was a blank DVD in the drive.
[02:01] <Pelo> mikebot, and remember that you are burning an iso ,  you do that from the menu, not from the gui part
[02:01] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: You can do it that way. Or I can tell you how
[02:01] <winlover_41> good
[02:01] <mikebot> Pelo: I had changed the speed to auto before burning this one. (And previous ones worked.)
[02:01] <Pelo> mikebot, how big is the iso ?
[02:01] <vwhydrowv> already put the disk in but thanks anyways
[02:01] <Torias> So i would be able to install Ubuntu onto the D-Drive while running windows on the C-Drive, because I do not have it burnt to disk yet.
[02:01] <PurpZeY> gellioth: It might not be unmounting
[02:01] <mikebot> Pelo: Right, from the Tools menu, did that.
[02:01] <nixnoob> Pelo, Thanks (I'm geoff_) it worked.
[02:01] <mikebot> Pelo: 4.3 GB (4614641664 bytes)
[02:02] <Pelo> nixnoob, congrats
[02:02] <gellioth> What can I do?
[02:02] <Pelo> mikebot, that should work,
[02:02] <Xintruder> i do I verify if my computer can hancel compiz ??
[02:02] <winlover_41> It will act as my computer's "Guest account as I don't trust anyone other than my family in Vista anymore.
[02:02] <Xintruder> handle**
[02:02] <vwhydrowv> wow, finally a help chanel that actually helps, hats off to you guys
[02:02] <mikebot> Pelo: Could anythign else have gone wrong? Like the k9copy process?
[02:02] <PurpZeY> gellioth: Mount it back to XP, make sure you eject it properly, then try it again....I hear that is a big issue.
[02:02] <Pelo> Xintruder, try it,  menu > system> prefs< appearance < last tab
[02:02] <crimsun> function1: sane apps should use 'default' by default, yes.  Worth a bug report.
[02:02] <Pelo> mikebot, don'T know
[02:02] <Pelo> mikebot, this is a movie ?
[02:02] <NineTeen67Comet> Little question about vnc .. I've got a computer hooked up to a monitor, but I'm getting tired of hooking up a kbd/mouse to start/stop movies. Can I start/stop movies via ssh into that box so it shows up on the tv?
[02:02] <kevogod> Rats off to ya
[02:02] <a1fa> anybody have dell latitude ls?
[02:02] <mikebot> Pelo: Yes.
[02:03] <PurpZeY> !anyone a1fa
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone a1fa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <PurpZeY> !anyone | a1fa
[02:03] <ubotu> a1fa: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:03] <gellioth> ok PurpZey Ill try it now
[02:03] <mikebot> Pelo: Well, a TV show.
[02:03] <Pelo> mikebot,  extract the .iso to the desktop then copy the files from there to the dvd using gnomebaker,  you want the video-ts and audio-ts folder to be the top ones in the dvd , not the unpackign folder
[02:03] <Pelo> mikebot, copy them as files
[02:04] <Xintruder> lol could not be enabled!!
[02:04] <vwhydrowv> also, how do i configure the pw for root?  it never asked me during installation
[02:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: there is no root.
[02:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: only zule
[02:04] <Pelo> Xintruder, you might just need to install opengl,
[02:04] <vwhydrowv> oh ok
[02:04] <function1> crimsun: thank you, that was very enlightening. best help ive ever gotten in here. does it say somewhere in libasound docs that dmix is bypassed when using hw:? i dont recall seeing that in the alsa wiki (but its a bit underdeveloped)
[02:04] <vwhydrowv> that would explain that one then
[02:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I kid. There is no root...Only sudo...Sudo makes commands run as root....
[02:04] <stunatra> whyameye, your user password is the 'root' password.
[02:04] <vwhydrowv> oh ok
[02:04] <Pelo> Xintruder, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,  toward the top , in the module secton , do you have xgl listed ?
[02:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: sudo password is your password to log on
[02:04] <vwhydrowv> ok
[02:05] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[02:05] <mikebot> Pelo: Hrm, inside the iso is only a video_ts folder and a file `..' which is 2 kb.
[02:05] <mikebot> Pelo: And when I try to extract I get: /bin/sh: cannot create ..: Is a directory
[02:05] <j1mc> hello all... Somehow the "reboot" and "shut down" options have misteriously disappeared from my logout dialog.  can anyone assist me?
[02:05] <Malik_> i wan ubuntu so badly!!
[02:05] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Generally if a command returns "permission denied" you need 'sudo' before that command
[02:05] <Pelo> mikebot, just copy the video-ts folder to the dvd
[02:05] <RazzoRz> How do i stop Shutdown and Restart To hang .... i have to power off the laptop to finish the shutdown
[02:05] <Pelo> Malik_, waht is the issue ?
[02:05] <inertial> is there an intel64 iso for ubuntu??
[02:05] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, 'sudo passwd root' if you really need root.
[02:05] <Malik_> long story
[02:05] <vwhydrowv> purlzey, good thing to know
[02:05] <Pelo> Malik_, make it short
[02:05] <j1mc> inertial: you can use the AMD64 image
[02:05] <crimsun> function1: no, unfortunately that's poorly documented [but well known amongst lurkers and developers ;/ ]
[02:05] <mikebot> Pelo: How do I do that?
[02:05] <PurpZeY> !root | kevogod
[02:05] <Malik_> alrit ehere goes...
[02:05] <ubotu> kevogod: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:05] <Pelo> mikebot, you extracted the .iso file ?
[02:06] <soldats> Malik_, you can use the 686 version as well
[02:06] <mikebot> Pelo: Wait, I'm sorry, I've just been working with the iso file.
[02:06] <mikebot> Pelo: Do I need the original DVD again?
[02:06] <kevogod> PurpZeY, What is your point?
[02:06] <vwhydrowv> so after this loads will it go directly into the gui from now on?
[02:06] <Malik_> rite now i hav xp on my computer and when iam using after 15 mins i will get this blue screen and i hav to restart and then when i restart i can't load os until i wait liek 3 hrs
[02:06] <Pelo> mikebot, no you don'T
[02:06] <inertial> j1mc: does it work as well? i know the two different amd and intel 64 bit architectures have some different instructions
[02:06] <PurpZeY> kevogod: nada nada ignore me
[02:06] <function1> crimsun: some place to lurk on alsa? dev mailing list maybe? hacking these issues lately has me interested
[02:06] <Malik_> and when it does load after 15 mins it freezes again with the blue screen
[02:07] <Pelo> mikebot, you got the iso , you want to make a new dvd with it ,  you can't burn the .iso file foe some reason
[02:07] <j1mc> inertial: i've never tried it, but i have read that you can.  i would not know the specific differences.
[02:07] <Malik_> and i donot want that problem with linux to
[02:07] <mikebot> Pelo: Correct.
[02:07] <Xintruder> I see no XGL at all !!
[02:07] <Malik_> u getting me?
[02:07] <crimsun> function1: sure, the mailing list can be enlightening.
[02:07] <j1mc> hello all... Somehow the "reboot" and "shut down" options have misteriously disappeared from my logout dialog.
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> if i'm wanting to start an application in a terminal but not wanting that app to close if i close the terminal what syntax would i have after the app name would i use?
[02:07] <Pelo> Malik_, this is a windows issue,  you need to go to ##windows and ask them how to solve it
[02:07] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, after this gui is loaded will it default to the gui from this point on?
[02:07] <rodolfo> HELP!! source code repo is asking for...258MB of disk space! is that normal?
[02:07] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I believe so
[02:07] <inertial> anyone else know if the amd64 cd works for intel64?
[02:07] <Malik_> its not
[02:07] <alanbshepard70> is it possible to diff all the files in a folder against the other files in the same folder? I have a ton of pictures that got renamed all sorts of ways and therefore got duplicated over and over. Also once I have the list of exact file matches how can I delete all but one of the copies?
[02:07] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: if it doesn't startx will do it
[02:08] <chrometiger> i have a usb hard drive and ubuntu usually auto mounts it    now it doesn't and when i try to mount it myself it says  to log back into windows and saftly remove it then shut down windows ?    i tried that   what can i do ?
[02:08] <MenZa> How would I connect to essid "foo" with wpa password "bar"?
[02:08] <Malik_> cause i can't load any os
[02:08] <vwhydrowv> ok
[02:08] <MenZa> with iwconfig, that is
[02:08] <Malik_> till a whole 3 hrs
[02:08] <j1mc> bastid_raZor: try:  nohup [name of program]
[02:08] <MenZa> inertial: works fine
[02:08] <chrometiger> i have a usb hard drive and ubuntu usually auto mounts it    now it doesn't and when i try to mount it myself it says  to log back into windows and saftly remove it then shut down windows ?    i tried that   what can i do ?
[02:08] <Pelo> mikebot,  ok , extract the iso to the desktop, inside the extracted folder there is the video_ts folder,  copy that to the dvd as you would any data using gnomebaker and you will have a working dvd
[02:08] <vwhydrowv> wow, alot to load
[02:08] <MenZa> chrometiger: defrag the drive in Windows
[02:08] <bastid_raZor> j1mc:: okay. thanks
[02:08] <inertial> MenZa: ok i'll give it a shot
[02:08] <chrometiger> defrag thats it ??
[02:08] <MenZa> chrometiger: yep
[02:08]  * Pelo 's brain is about to explode
[02:08] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: It's a big package.
[02:09] <chrometiger> k   thnx
[02:09] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, your a lifesaver man, i really appreciate this
[02:09] <skjdfgh> Pelo: Hi, sorry, I got disconnected as mikebot.
[02:09] <Pelo> mikebot,  ok , extract the iso to the desktop, inside the extracted folder there is the video_ts folder,  copy that to the dvd as you would any data using gnomebaker and you will have a working dvd
[02:09] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: This one is an easy one
[02:09] <pck3332> So in a stupid attempt to get aircrack-ng working on my comp, I managed to break my wireless drivers that were working just fine. Right now I'm running them off the live-cd, but is there any way to "restore" the driver from the original installation?
[02:09] <skjdfgh> Pelo: And it looks like I was reconnected, but this computer is much more stable.
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> j1mc:: that works perfectly. thanks
[02:10] <Pelo> skjdfgh,  ok , extract the iso to the desktop, inside the extracted folder there is the video_ts folder,  copy that to the dvd as you would any data using gnomebaker and you will have a working dvd
[02:10] <j1mc> bastid_raZor:  :)
[02:10] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, not to me being a newb, lol
[02:10] <skjdfgh> Pelo: SO I don't need the .. file? It seems all my isos have that.
[02:10] <rodolfo> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:10] <robdig> MenZa: this is a pretty good description how to get wpa working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834&highlight=wpa
[02:10] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone know how I can tell Totem/Mplayer/VLC/Xine to play on display X full screen via ssh?
[02:10] <MenZa> cheers, robdig
[02:10] <Pelo> skjdfgh, those are just extra data for the progs that make and use iso they are not part of the actual data
[02:10] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I was a newb not too long ago.
[02:10] <bastid_raZor> NineTeen67Comet:: mplayer -fs file-to-watch
[02:11] <skjdfgh> Pelo: OK, it's still extracting, so I'll try it in one second. Thanks for the help.
[02:11] <vwhydrowv> so is there anything equivelent to quickbooks on linux? or a way to install it on linux?
[02:11] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I don't know of it, but I don't use it, check the repos or google it
[02:11] <vwhydrowv> im coming from a windows background so im not sure
[02:11] <PurpZeY> or ask around
[02:11] <Pelo> skjdfgh, it can take several minuts to extract 4 gig of data, like 30 of them or more
[02:11] <vwhydrowv> ok
[02:11] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Do you know how to search the repos?
[02:11] <NineTeen67Comet> bastid_raZor: will that play it on a specified screen though? I'm in that box via ssh and its keyboard / mouse is being used on another computer for a while ..
[02:11] <Pelo> vwhydrowv, I like grisbi , there is also gnucash and kmymoney if you are using kde
[02:12] <pck3332> gnucash is pretty good
[02:12] <vwhydrowv> just installing for the first time so no, not at the moment
[02:12] <robdig> vwhydrowv: try gnucash
[02:12] <pck3332> doesn't help you prepare returns
[02:12] <pck3332> but great way to organize finances
[02:12] <bastid_raZor> NineTeen67Comet:: meaning you have more than one monitor attached to said box?
[02:12] <skjdfgh> Pelo: Yikes, OK, I'll let you know when it finishes.
[02:12] <kevogod> Does anyone know where I can find the unbranded Giraffe wallpaper in the Animal series of wallpapers?
[02:12] <vwhydrowv> can you import quickbooks into gnucash?
[02:12] <skjdfgh> Pelo: Oh, also, is there any reason for k9copy to have problems converting a dvd to an iso?
[02:12] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Well, there you are gnucash is apparently good for that....but for search repos you can use synaptic (once oyu have gui) or you can use apt-cache <nameofprogram>
[02:12] <Pelo> vwhydrowv, grisbi is very good fro home or small association stuff, gnucash is more hardcore you can make scripts in it for just about everythng ( paychecks etc) , kmymoney is a lot like quicken
[02:12] <vwhydrowv> kevogod, google images did you try there?
[02:13] <Pelo> skjdfgh, no idea , never used it
[02:13] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, Yes
[02:13] <NineTeen67Comet> bastid_raZor: naw, it is just our media computer hooked to a TV but I am logged into that box via ssh.. so what ever command I attempt will attempt to play on my computer via ssh ..
[02:13] <pck3332> Is there a way to "repair" a ubuntu installation?
[02:13] <Pelo> skjdfgh, dvd encryption might be an issue
[02:13] <pck3332> without loosing data on existing installation
[02:13] <PurpZeY> pck3332: What's wrong with it?
[02:13] <Pelo> pck3332, it's called a clean install
[02:13] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, I can only find a *branded* version.
[02:13] <skjdfgh> Pelo: I was under the impression that if a computer could open a dvd then it was already decrypting it.
[02:13] <skjdfgh> Pelo: Do you use anythign for this process?
[02:13] <Pelo> pck3332, just make your /home on a seperate partiton and you can reinstall as much as you want
[02:13] <pck3332> wireless card got fucked when I tries to get aircrack to work
[02:13] <PurpZeY> skjdfgh: No, you need to decrypt movies and things
[02:13] <PurpZeY> !ohmy | pck3332
[02:13] <ubotu> pck3332: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:14] <vwhydrowv> lemme look
[02:14] <bastid_raZor> NineTeen67Comet:: if you only have one monitor attached to the box you're currently on via ssh.. it will play it on the screen available .. being the tv]
[02:14] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/Animals
[02:14] <mete_> which filesystem is faster on multiple read/write tasks: ext3 or xfs?
[02:14] <vwhydrowv> you know any picture can be made a wallpaper right?
[02:14] <Pelo> skjdfgh, if you can read it in the comp you shoudl be find,  your original question was very general
[02:14] <skjdfgh> PurpZeY: Oh, right.
[02:14] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, Yes, I do realize this.
[02:14] <skjdfgh> Pelo: OK, I guess I'll try it again.
[02:14] <vwhydrowv> kevogod, looking
[02:14] <alecks> ubuntu repos need some updates :/
[02:15] <Pelo> alecks, the repos only update version from release to release,  between those they just do fixes and security issues
[02:15] <skjdfgh> Pelo: So I'm making a new data DVD and just having the video_ts folder as the data?
[02:15] <vwhydrowv> kevogod, cool, couldnt you photoshop a pic for the texture of a giraffe?
[02:15] <pck3332> I'd really rather not loose all the customization I've done up to this point
[02:15] <Pelo> skjdfgh, yes
[02:16] <alecks> they don't update apps or anything?
[02:16] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, No
[02:16] <Pelo> pck3332, if you backup your /home folder all your data and settings will be saved, but not the progs or some hardware settings you may have done , like fancontrol and xorg customisation, you'll hve to backup those files independently
[02:16] <pck3332> All I need to happen is for my wireless drivers to be exactly what they are right now on the liveCD
[02:17] <skjdfgh> Pelo: OK, I'll try that, thanks.
[02:17] <Pelo> alecks, just with fixes and security patches,  you don't get version upgrades between releases of ubuntu
[02:17] <PurpZeY> pck3332: So, why not boot up, and do what you did when you were on the liveCD?
[02:18] <pck3332> Well the live CD is detecting my card and using the right driver. I manually deleted/altered/did something to the driver on my HD install and wireless isn't working when I boot up from the HD
[02:18] <mete_> which filesystem is faster on multiple read/write tasks: ext3 or xfs?
[02:18] <Pelo> mete_, try asking in ##linux
[02:18] <PurpZeY> pck3332: If the liveCD is doing it properly then, didn't the original install work?
[02:18] <mete_> Pelo: k :)
[02:18] <Pelo> mete_, or look for a fs comparison chart on wikipedia
[02:18] <pck3332> Purp: yes
[02:19] <pck3332> read above for problem now
[02:19] <vwhydrowv> kevin http://www.planetshoup.com/easy/images/external/rug_giraffe.gif
[02:19] <PurpZeY> pck3332: I read, you tried to hack it somehow
[02:19] <pck3332> Yep
[02:19] <PurpZeY> pck3332: But Ubuntu itself worked?
[02:19] <pck3332> Yep
[02:19] <bulmer> pck3332, did you learn any lessons from deleting and altering?
[02:19] <PurpZeY> pck3332: Make a clean install
[02:19] <pck3332> Backup Backup Backup
[02:19] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:20] <pck3332> I got to cocky
[02:20] <pck3332> too*
[02:20] <bulmer> pck3332, which driver did you modify?
[02:21] <pck3332> Intel Pro Wireless 2915 ABG
[02:21] <MrFeeti1> I would like to apologize for this little bit of off topic angry text: I HATE HP, HATE HATE HATE
[02:21] <pck3332> patched the drivers for packet injection then lost functionality
[02:21] <osxdude> lol
[02:21] <RazzoRz> How do i stop the Shutdown and the Restart To hang .... i have to power off the laptop to finish the shutdown
[02:21] <osxdude> lol MrFeeti1
[02:21] <vwhydrowv> anyone want some interesting reading
[02:21] <vwhydrowv> ?
[02:21] <rob3r> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 7.10. I am running advanced desktop effects, I am wondering if there is a way to have icons on one desktop and not on another? I currently have four desktops. An answer would be greatly appreciated : )
[02:21] <vwhydrowv> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/06/gates.html
[02:22] <PurpZeY> RazzoRz: Seems that no one is familiar with that issue did you check the forums on it?
[02:22] <pck3332> I would copy over the driver from the CD, but I don't how to install/update drivers on ubuntu
[02:22] <RazzoRz> PurpZeY:not yet no
[02:22] <vwhydrowv> bill gates talks about how linux is the best operating system
[02:22] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, You realize that BBspot is satire, right?
[02:23] <vwhydrowv> no i didnt
[02:23] <bulmer> pck3332, you want to mount the iso from your cd?
[02:23] <MrFeeti1> *weeps* why HP, why.
[02:23] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, Now, you do. :P
[02:23] <vwhydrowv> hahaha, yeah
[02:23] <pck3332> I can do that, what I need to do is figure out where to install the driver too
[02:23] <PurpZeY> rob3r: I believe all of the desktops remain the same
[02:23] <vwhydrowv> just looked at the news article and never paid much attention to the site
[02:23] <pck3332> and where to find the driver on the live cd
[02:24] <vwhydrowv> funny article anyways
[02:24] <kevogod> That's the point. :P
[02:24] <bulmer> pck3332, for wifi its somewhere in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/
[02:24] <rob3r> PurpZeY: hmm, thanks for the answer even though it isn't the one I am looking for
[02:24] <gellioth> PurpZey ... nothing.
[02:24] <pck3332> Thanks Bulmer, let me take a look, I'll get back to you
[02:24] <gellioth> PurpZeY nothing
[02:24] <PurpZeY> rob3r: You can ask in #compiz-fusion I don't think the answer is going to change though
[02:24] <rob3r> k
[02:25] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, lalalalala, still installing
[02:25] <PurpZeY> gellioth: So, you plug it in, and nothing shows up when you run mount?
[02:25] <vwhydrowv> lol, wow
[02:25] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: It's the whole gnome gui system.....The difference b/w server and desktop is that package
[02:26] <Odd-rationale> What is the command to start the volume applet in the gnome panel?
[02:26] <Odd-rationale> I searched all over and can't figure it out.
[02:26] <gellioth> sorry its hard to me, I dont have good english PurpZeY
[02:27] <PurpZeY> Odd-rationale: Do you just need to add it back to the panel?
[02:27] <PurpZeY> gellioth: What is your native language?
[02:27] <robdig> Odd-rationale: gnome-volume-manager
[02:27] <lazkapital> well my realy problem with ATI accelerated driver
[02:27] <vwhydrowv> i thought the difference was lamp is preinstalled on server vs. desktop
[02:27] <Odd-rationale> PurpZeY: No, I want to know that command to start it.
[02:27] <Odd-rationale> robdig: That's for removable drives...
[02:27] <gellioth> PurpZeY spanish
[02:27] <Kuropon> is it hard to set up VMware? and what not
[02:27] <PurpZeY> !es | gellioth
[02:27] <ubotu> gellioth: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:28] <PurpZeY> :)
[02:28] <grout> whats the best VM app for linux?
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> grout: I like VirtualBox
[02:28] <PurpZeY> !best | grout
[02:28] <ubotu> grout: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[02:28] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, i thought the big difference was desktop doesnt have lamp installed
[02:28] <gellioth> ok Ill try ... thanks
[02:28] <tingo> me
[02:28] <lazkapital> well problem is i selected my monitor in screen and graphical card option
[02:28] <lazkapital> and every thing with that fault
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> PurpZeY: Any ideas?
[02:29] <tingo> i love vbox
[02:29] <gellioth> thanks PurpZeY
[02:29] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I don't know anything about lamp, but as far as I understand it the only difference is the desktop package
[02:29] <vwhydrowv> lamp = linux, apache, mysql, and php
[02:29] <PurpZeY> Odd-rationale:  gnome-volume-manager
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> PurpZeY: That is for removable drives. I want the applet for sound (volume).
[02:29] <Kuropon> is it hard to set up VMware? and what not
[02:30] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: What I know is what I said....hehe
[02:30] <vwhydrowv> In around 15 minutes, the time it takes to install Ubuntu Server Edition, you can have a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) server up and ready to go. This feature, exclusive to Ubuntu Server Edition, is available at the time of installation.
[02:30] <vwhydrowv> from ubunto's site
[02:30] <PurpZeY> Odd-rationale: I don't know what you are looking for
[02:30] <vwhydrowv> so i just assumed it did not come with desktop edition
[02:30] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Fair assumptions
[02:31] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I honestly just don't know
[02:31] <itrebal> I'm having problems wih a Compaq Pressario C300 with the keyboard and mouse (trackpad) occasionally locking up; in /var/log/messages, it has: http://paste2.org/p/11428 - any ideas as to the problem/solution?
[02:31] <vwhydrowv> no prob
[02:31] <lazkapital> anyone know if i can  use 3D option of my grapical card in order to if i didnt selected my driver via restricted drivers section but ivia screen and graphical card option?
[02:31] <rodolfo> i need help with aptitude. somebody please help me...
[02:31] <vwhydrowv> i think its doing something :) blank screen either a good sign or a very bad one
[02:31] <skjdfgh> Can someone help me with an error I got in gnomebaker?
[02:32] <PurpZeY> lazkapital: I don't understand
[02:32] <lazkapital> my card is ATI readon
[02:32] <mame> Hi. I would like to start programming some basic front ends for emulators here on Linux. I have only had a years worth of c++ programming but that was all on M$ Windows. Can anyone suggest a site or a pdf to download to get started?
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> PurpZeY: OK sorry. Let me be a bit clearer. There is an applet in the gnome panel that is used to adjust sound preferences. What is the command to start that applet? e.g. nm-applet starts the network applet.
[02:32] <tingo> quit
[02:32] <vwhydrowv> oh, lol, screen just went black, still working
[02:33] <robdig> Odd-rationale: gnome-volume-control?
[02:33] <skjdfgh> More specifically, I am getting the following error in gnomebaker and I don't know how to fix it: http://pastebin.com/m2ee74665
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> robdig: Already tried that. I'm looking for the applet of something like that that resides in the panel.
[02:34] <pck3332> hmm, ok copied over the driver files from Live CD - I'm going to try and replace the current ones with the liveCD versions and hope that fixes things wish me luck
[02:34] <YouKnowMe> I'm having trouble with slimserver, I'm running ubuntu, http://pastebin.com/d5b2b1eb . I assume its bad permissions but I can't even find the file its looking for. Help?
[02:35] <kinglet> hello guys! I have a big problem with Totem, when I play a .vob file or .avi file its not have colors and show me black/white
[02:36] <kinglet> I exec this command for .vob
[02:36] <kinglet> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[02:36] <rodolfo> !aptitude
[02:36] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:36] <kinglet> but it have problem now
[02:37] <kinglet> plz somebody answer me!
[02:38] <skjdfgh> Can anyone here decypher the following error from gnomebaker? http://pastebin.com/m2ee74665
[02:38] <jtjt> I made a mistake resizing the ntfs partition to dual boot the windows partition is too small Howto make a little more room without stuffing ubuntu or windows please???
[02:38] <robdig> Odd-rationale: how bout /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2
[02:38] <kinglet> is there someone who can help me?
[02:39] <kinglet> zZZzzzZZz...
[02:39] <WorkingOnWise> hi. i'm setting up the partitions on a fresh install on Ubuntu. What are the consequences of too little swap?
[02:40] <bnex10> possibly not enough memory
[02:40] <PurpZeY> WorkingOnWise: I don't know the consequences, but I'm told around 1 gig is the proper number
[02:40] <PurpZeY> kinglet: What is the question/problem?
[02:40] <kinglet> PurpZeY, I have a problem with Totem
[02:40] <Nathan_P> Hello
[02:40] <Odd-rationale> robdig: That might be it. Thanks!
[02:41] <PurpZeY> kinglet: This is not really my expertise, but go ahead and ask
[02:41] <Nathan_P> Could anyone here help me with a file server/firewall setup I'm trying to work with?
[02:41] <kinglet> PurpZeY, when I playing a .vob or .avi file
[02:41] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: Are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[02:41] <kinglet> PurpZeY, it not have colors
[02:41] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: that is the number I am wanting to go with. I have 2.5GB of ram, and frankly, if it werent for my Windows XP vm, I'd be just fine with 1GB.
[02:41] <kinglet> PurpZeY, and show me black/white
[02:41] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, yes i think
[02:42] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: which? xine?
[02:42] <PurpZeY> WorkingOnWise: I could be wrong, but I believe I've been told 1 gig is about how much you want
[02:42] <mikebot> Can anyone here decypher the following error from gnomebaker? http://pastebin.com/m2ee74665
[02:43] <WorkingOnWise> PurpZeY: well thats what I'm going with. If its wrong...I'll blame u.k? jk:D
[02:43] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I don know! how can I find em?
[02:43] <pingu> why wont my internet play movies, it will get to the screen and load then nothing will play. it happens on multiple sites and its really annoying
[02:43] <PurpZeY> pingu: install flash recently?
[02:43] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, r u understanding my problem?
[02:43] <pingu> what should i do, do i need some more programs
[02:43] <jtt> anyone know what this means  'missing codepage or helper program'
[02:43] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, my video files like .vob or .avi is not color show
[02:44] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, it is black/white
[02:44] <pingu> i dont have any idea i only put ubuntu on like maybe two months ago does flash update that quickly?
[02:44] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: Try going to synaptic. and searching for totem. see whether you have the totem-gstreamer package installed or totem-xine.
[02:44] <Sylpher> When I try to install ubuntu it feeezes in the boot, if anyone would be so kind as to help me out I will give more details.
[02:44] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, ok dude so plz wait for a second
[02:44] <PurpZeY> Sylpher: I don't know if I can help or not, but give the details...unless it is a long paste
[02:45] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: totem is a front end, xine and gstreamer are back ends. you may need xine for it to work properly.
[02:45] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, hey i got a gui, thanks man
[02:45] <offray_> HI all. I have migrated from another Linux Distro to Ubuntu 7.10. In my previous system I have LVM for / and /home, but I don't know how can't I access to them now (I used the same /boot and spare disk to  Install Ubuntu) There is any pointer to documentation on how using _previous_ LVM for an Ubuntu Install?
[02:45] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Excellent. My pleasure.
[02:45] <Sylpher> I'll try and be brief..
[02:45] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me could eat entire pot roast right now.
[02:45] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, it is gstreamer
[02:45] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me hungry! Me eat!
[02:45] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Ed Werder is the definition of awesome.
[02:45] <Junkyard_Jeff>  More respect for all hungry people around da world.
[02:45] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I must unistalled gstreamer?
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Ed Werder is DA BOMB.
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: See this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me could eat entire pot roast right now.
[02:46] <Sylpher> When it gets the the splash screen (Start or Install, etc..) I select Start or Install and it loads the kernal and then locks up and shuts down my computer.
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Ed Werder craves sandwich right now.
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me Ed Werder. Me like to eat!
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Ed Werder craves sandwich right now.
[02:46] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I must installing Xin?
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  More respect for all hungry people around da world.
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me eat a lot! Me love pancakes!
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Ed Werder has joined da room and will now crunkitize it
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: It will help you install the xine backend. ^
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Burger Box is da best place to eat for Ed Werder.
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me could eat entire pot roast right now.
[02:46] <erik_bracket> Where's synaptic store the files?
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Werder. Ed Werder.
[02:46] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, tnx buddy
[02:46] <erik_bracket> where does*
[02:46] <Oli``> !ops | Junkyard_Jeff
[02:46] <Junkyard_Jeff>  Me love all food of da world.
[02:46] <ubotu> Junkyard_Jeff: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[02:46] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I'm going to check it
[02:47] <Nathan_P> Anyone here that can help me with a server/firewall setup?
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: If that doesn't work, then try mplayer or vlc.
[02:47] <PurpZeY> Nathan_P: I only know what ubotu knows
[02:47] <erik_bracket> Anyone know where synaptic downloads files?
[02:47] <Nathan_P> PurpZeY:What?
[02:47] <PurpZeY> erik_bracket: It depends on what it is
[02:47] <PurpZeY> Nathan_P: I can only trigger the bot, I don't know anything about that
[02:47] <Sylpher> I have an AMD64 dual core, 2 gigs of ram, using the AMD64 cd iso
[02:48] <Nathan_P> ah
[02:48] <erik_bracket> Well, when you select "Only download files, don't install them" box
[02:48] <Nathan_P> no bots please
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> brb
[02:49] <tssom> where can i get that sexy little sidepannel that shows network traffic/cpu uasge etc.?
[02:50] <robdig> mikebot: looks like a kernel bug...when i googled the error, looks like it is happening on several distros, fedora, mandriva, etc. when burning iso to dvd. Here is ubuntu bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/157803
[02:50] <earthsound> i am having a problem with a couple of settings not sticking after a reboot: display resolution and network DNS servers. any ideas?
[02:50] <YouKnowMe> I'm having trouble with slimserver, I'm running ubuntu, http://pastebin.com/d5b2b1eb . I assume its bad permissions but I can't even find the file its looking for. Help?
[02:50] <PurpZeY> tssom: I honestly don't know what you are talking about. I assume it's awn or kiba-dock, but I don't know
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> tssom: I believe that has been moved to the medibuntu repos.
[02:50] <Odd-rationale> !medibuntu
[02:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:50] <earthsound> the DNS servers are going back to my ISPs default DNS servers and the display resolution is defaulting to 1600x1200 (instead of 1280x1024)
[02:50] <tssom> thanks
[02:51] <TeraJL> i don't have any sound.. i have tried everything and nothing works :/
[02:51] <erik_bracket> When you click "Download package files only," where does it download them to?
[02:51] <erik_bracket> in synaptic
[02:51] <PurpZeY> TeraJL: You looked @ alsa?
[02:51] <Sylpher> I dug around a bit on the ubuntu forums and I found one person with the same problem, but he mentioned running pirated software and I think that made nobody want to help him.
[02:51] <Pici> erik_bracket: probably /var/cache/apt/
[02:51] <TeraJL> my ubunto can find "realtek alc880" but don't work any way
[02:51] <erik_bracket> ok, thanks
[02:52] <PurpZeY> !alsa | TeraJL
[02:52] <ubotu> TeraJL: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:52] <mikebot> robdig: Thanks
[02:53] <Creed> Wheres the SytemRequirements for Kubuntu?
[02:53] <mikebot> robdig: I can't interpret anything else on that page.. is there a solution?
[02:53] <TeraJL> i have alsa
[02:53] <dan2> hey guys
[02:53] <dan2> I'm running latest hardy, and my toolbars just disappeared
[02:53] <dan2> in gnome
[02:53] <dan2> how do I get them back
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> Creed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:53] <PurpZeY> TeraJL: Did you search the forums for that card?
[02:54] <PurpZeY> !ubuntu+1 | dan2
[02:54] <ubotu> dan2: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:54] <robdig> mikebot: i did not see one on either the ubuntu or fedora pages i looked at...
[02:54] <mikebot> robdig: Arg, OK.
[02:54] <anunez48> how can i know which drivers do i hava on mi ubunut?
[02:54] <vwhydrowv> ok so now im lost, how do i load lamp?
[02:54] <PurpZeY> !es
[02:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:55] <vwhydrowv> im guesing its separate apps
[02:55] <TeraJL> mine is a realtek onboard
[02:55] <jtjt> I made a mistake resizing the ntfs partition to dual boot the windows partition is too small Howto make a little more room without stuffing ubuntu or windows please???
[02:55] <robdig> YouKnowMe: is the mysql server running? can do ps -ef | grep mysql to check...
[02:55] <PurpZeY> jtjt: Use gparted
[02:55] <Sylpher> PurpZeY (or anyone), no ideas? Sorry, not sure if you missed my details in the flooding above.
[02:55] <Creed> Odd-rationale, thats for Ubuntu, I'm looking for Kubuntu's
[02:56] <PurpZeY> Sylpher: I got a part of them, but where is the install hanging?
[02:56] <jtjt> PurpZey, ty hope it has an assist mode
[02:56] <Pici> Creed: they are the same.
[02:56] <Odd-rationale> Creed: the first one listed applies to both.
[02:57] <nettow0822> i can't get my cell phone to connect via usb...any ideas?
[02:57] <Sylpher> PurpZeY, right at the start when I select Start Or Install from the boot splash menu. A box pops up saying loading the kernel, that finishes and something at the bottom shows up for a second (looks like a memory address in HEX, but I can't see it) and then my entire system shuts down.
[02:58] <Sylpher> Same thing happens if I select the check cd for defects option
[02:58] <vwhydrowv> im not finding apache in add/remove programs, any suggestions?
[02:58] <Sylpher> So I tried reburning the CD at a slower speed, but to no avail.
[02:58] <zachinglis> Hey guys. It's been a while since I've used my server and I very stupidly forgot my user with the login pie, i have got my root password though and was wondering how I could change the password for pie through root so I can log out of root and back into pie?
[02:58] <PurpZeY> Sylpher: You can try the alternate install CD...That'd be my only suggestion, but I am no guru
[02:58] <Sylpher> Hm, alternate install you say? Okay, I'll dig around on the site.
[02:59] <PurpZeY> Sylpher: Text based install.
[02:59] <robdig> zachinglis: passwd pie
[02:59] <zachinglis> cheers robdig
[03:00] <Alkivar> before i go and do something stupid... are there any models of razer mouse that arent functional under ubuntu? i googled and didnt see anything but figured i'd better double check
[03:01] <lewwy> razr mouse is a usb mouse so it should be compatible
[03:01] <PurpZeY> !hardware | Alkivar
[03:01] <ubotu> Alkivar: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:01] <vwhydrowv> ok, different cd, looks like i got to start over
[03:01] <lewwy> yeh i've had some pretty major dramas with the gui based install on my old 2.6.
[03:01] <Alkivar> Purpzey: already been there... as i said... double checking i didnt miss something :)
[03:01] <Sylpher> PurpZeY, ah, took me a second to find that option on the download page. Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[03:01] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Can't you just install the new packages?
[03:02] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: From the repos
[03:02] <vwhydrowv> i cant even find them in synaptics
[03:02] <vwhydrowv> synaptics=add/remove programs correct?
[03:02] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: No
[03:02] <earthsound> Sylpher: did you try running without a graphical interface...text mode?
[03:02] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: System --> Admin --> Synaptic
[03:03] <Sylpher> earthsound is that an additional option you can enter?
[03:03] <Sylpher> (The F6 options or whatever it is)
[03:03] <vwhydrowv> ok found it
[03:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: =)
[03:04] <vwhydrowv> looks like you can install it from cd though, dont know if that would be better
[03:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Doesn't make a difference, but at some point, you'll want to take "cd" as a resource out from synaptic
[03:04] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: CD probably faster
[03:05] <vwhydrowv> can you add a restart to the shutdown part?
[03:05] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: ?
[03:05] <earthsound> Sylpher: iirc, it is only available in the alternate cd :|  however, i believe the live cd still has a "safe graphics mode", does it not?
[03:05] <vwhydrowv> all i see is log out, lock screen, switch user, and hibernate
[03:05] <Condoulo> ok, I have a Logitech quickcam, and my Camera is working, but not the built in microphone. Any reason as to why?
[03:05] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: That's a weird bug, somehow it goes away.
[03:05] <vwhydrowv> ok
[03:06] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: If you reload gnome it will go away.
[03:06] <Sylpher> earthsound: Ah, yes, that option. Yes, I tried that. Same problem. Does ubuntu have any problems with dual cores? I have run into similar strange problems with lock-ups due to the dual core.
[03:06] <vwhydrowv> reloading now
[03:06]  * robdig has dual cores, no problem
[03:06] <vwhydrowv> still there
[03:06] <vwhydrowv> maybe i need to restart
[03:07] <Sylpher> robdig, thanks, good to know.
[03:07] <vwhydrowv> what command do i use to restart the computer from command prompt?
[03:07] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I wouldn't stress that, I guess is my point, it goes away....That's the way it's supposed to be
[03:07] <robdig> Sylpher: np...good luck
[03:07] <Sylpher> At least the server I am downloading the alternate cd from seems to be speeding along.
[03:07] <rajasun> vwhydrowv: sudo shutdown -r now
[03:08] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: shutdown -now I believe......
[03:08] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[03:08] <PurpZeY> or not
[03:08] <rajasun> vwhydrowv: np
[03:08] <Cromag> -r for reboot :)
[03:08] <Cromag> not just reboot ?
[03:08] <Cromag> wont work ?
[03:08] <vwhydrowv> rajasun had it right :)
[03:08] <PurpZeY> Cromag: It asks for time without now
[03:08] <rajasun> man shutdown
[03:08] <Cromag> ok
[03:09] <rajasun> ;)
[03:09] <vwhydrowv> ah man, looks like install a lamp server i will have to reload the gui again, errrrrrrrr
[03:10] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: huh?
[03:10] <vwhydrowv> hahahaha, another 2 hrs out of my life
[03:10] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Why install again?
[03:10] <vwhydrowv> it looks like when you install a lamp server it starts from the beginning again
[03:10] <vwhydrowv> because it preconfigures it as a server
[03:11] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Didn't you install server?
[03:11] <robdig> vwhydrowv: if you already have ubuntu installed, this link tells you how to get lamp installed  up and running... http://joeabiraad.com/linuxunix/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-710-linuxapachemysqlphp/100
[03:11] <vwhydrowv> i just told it to install to hard disk, i didnt choose install a lamp server in the beginning
[03:11] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: See above.
[03:11] <vwhydrowv> nice
[03:12] <mikebot> Is there any way to extract the video_ts from a dvd iso and burn that to a blank dvd while keeping the menus and everything? In toehr words, so it is just like the original dvd?
[03:12] <hou5ton> Hey ... a while back I tested Linux Mint (which is Ubuntu), and all the multimedia worked right out of the box.  Is it much problem getting pure Ubuntu doing that as well?
[03:12] <PurpZeY> mikebot: To pirate it?
[03:12] <Pici> mikebot: use dvd::rip iirc.
[03:12] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, hiii
[03:13] <mikebot> PurpZeY: To back up my dvds
[03:13] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, what happened to my ubuntu? :(
[03:13] <mikebot> Pici: How do I use that?
[03:13] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Fair enough.
[03:13] <lewix> hi
[03:13] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I installed xine packages and it removed gstreamer
[03:13] <Pici> mikebot: I have no idea, I've never had to rip a dvd for any purpose
[03:13] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Hehe, would you help me in one case but not the other?
[03:13] <lewix> how can I connect on the wireless from the command line
[03:13] <Sylpher> This is my second attempt at trying Linux. My first try I have a 28.8k connection and I downloaded some distro over the course of a week (with no resume ability at the time, mind) and was unable to install due to having an Ultra 66 HDD and at the time that was unsupported. That was over 10 years ago, I think I can throw aside my grudge now.
[03:13] <mikebot> Pici: OK, thanks.
[03:13] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, and when I set it to back config
[03:14] <PurpZeY> mikebot: Frankly, I wouldn't really help at all to copy any protected DVDs.
[03:14] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, totem removed completly
[03:14] <rajasun> kinglet: totem xine conflicts with totem-gstreamer
[03:14] <lewix> also, how can I read *winrar format, finc a forgotten password
[03:14] <kinglet> rajasun, yes i know
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: You should have totem-xine installed, right?
[03:14] <mikebot> PurpZeY: EVen if I own them?
[03:14] <wolfer1ne> Pici do you sleep ?
[03:14] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I uninstalled it
[03:14] <Pici> wolfer1ne: Yeah ;)
[03:14] <wolfer1ne> u 'ubuntu' too much :)
[03:14] <wolfer1ne> lol
[03:15] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: You uninstalled totem-xine?!
[03:15] <jack_> any help with copyin dvd's?
[03:15] <vwhydrowv> ok time to take the cd part out
[03:15] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, Yes bcuz it is not work for mp3 files and ...
[03:15] <vwhydrowv> how do i do it purpzey?
[03:15] <PurpZeY> mikebot: This is going to go off-topic, so I'm just going to say my piece. You can own it, and if you want to back it up, that's fine, but, you are not really intended to copy them...It's piracy...Do I personally think that it's messed up that it's piracy, yes. But it is still piracy
[03:15] <Doodluv> Does any one know of a way to get "
[03:15] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, and I install gstreamer again
[03:15] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, and now it have problem
[03:15] <Doodluv> <--- nice complete sentence there
[03:15] <rajasun> kinglet: u probably are missing the codecs
[03:16] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Someone planted a link for you, scroll up
[03:16] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, said me first install broken packages!
[03:16] <vwhydrowv> mikebot, you are trying to backup the dvd :) right? :)
[03:16] <kinglet> rajasun, no totem is unistalled compelty
[03:16] <Doodluv> Does any one know of a way to get "right-click" to work using an apple mouse....like the old school one-click apple mouse?
[03:16] <vwhydrowv> for taking the cd searching out?
[03:16] <mikebot> vwhydrowv: HEhe yes, I am trying to back up a dvd.
[03:16] <mikebot> PurpZeY: Fair enough.
[03:16] <kinglet> rajasun, and when I'm goin to install it , show me an error
[03:16] <mikebot> vwhydrowv: So if you know how I can do it then that would be wonderful.
[03:17] <rajasun> kinglet: anyway more to multimedia players on Linux than totem...apt-cache search media players
[03:17] <vwhydrowv> mike, so now ask your question correctly, then you will probably get help
[03:17] <lewix> have you guys heard about domplayer?
[03:17] <rajasun> w32codecs libdvdcss2 too
[03:17] <vwhydrowv> i know in windows, but very new to linux, better to ask someone else
[03:17] <kinglet> rajasun, if I want totem how can I fix it?
[03:17] <ethan961> doodluv:is it not double-click enabled by default on every mouse?
[03:17] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: is totem-xine *completely* unistalled right now?
[03:17] <ethan961> it is be def.on mine
[03:18] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, Yes
[03:18] <Shadow147> I need libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 file
[03:18] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, can I restore my settings?
[03:18] <rajasun> kinglet: sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs libdvdcss2
[03:18] <TigranG> Do you guys know what sets the icon size in the gtkrc file for right click menu?
[03:18] <z3cU3c4> Problem with EMESENE
[03:18] <vwhydrowv> im not finding the link, sorry, only the link for the lamp installation
[03:18] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: And you want to install totem-gstreamer?
[03:18] <Doodluv> ethan961: do you mean...double-click should give me the right-click popup menu?
[03:18] <vwhydrowv> im talking about where its asking to put the cd in
[03:19] <z3cU3c4> the console terminal LOG IS: Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:19] <z3cU3c4>   File "Controller.py", line 22, in <module>
[03:19] <z3cU3c4>     import gtk
[03:19] <z3cU3c4> ImportError: No module named gtk
[03:19] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I think robdig posted it....not positive.
[03:19] <vwhydrowv> you previously said i had to edit something
[03:19] <z3cU3c4> i have all librarys
[03:19] <z3cU3c4> gtk, pygtk
[03:19] <Shadow147> I need libc6.1-1.so.2 file from ibstdc++
[03:19] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: That's to get the CD out as a source....
[03:19] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, Yes such as my last settings :(
[03:19] <Shadow147> I need libc6.1-1.so.2 file from libstdc++
[03:19] <Synx_hm> How can i get the gnome-theme-manager i cant find the package
[03:19] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Let me see if I can find the link
[03:19] <mikebot> vwhydrowv: There doesn't seem to be an answer to my problem. Some sort of kernel bug I think.
[03:19] <vwhydrowv> purpzey, yes
[03:19] <PurpZeY> !theme | Synx_hm
[03:20] <ubotu> Synx_hm: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:20] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: can you sudo aptitude install totem-gstreamer?
[03:20] <Krumar> is there any way to use the archive manager to create an archive of certain sizes, say 4.3 GB so i can fit them nicely on DVDs?
[03:20] <rajasun> kinglet: not that it matters, but totem-xine is probably what u want rather than totem-gstreamer along with the codecs, libdvdcss2 libdvdread
[03:20] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: if you already have ubuntu installed, this link tells you how to get lamp installed  up and running... http://joeabiraad.com/linuxunix/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-710-linuxapachemysqlphp/100
[03:20] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: ok im not sure what i am doing wrong but there is no 'System -> Preferences -> Theme'
[03:21] <vwhydrowv> i got that link
[03:21] <z3cU3c4> EMESENE problem: eric@eric-desktop:~$ emesene
[03:21] <z3cU3c4> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:21] <z3cU3c4>   File "Controller.py", line 22, in <module>
[03:21] <z3cU3c4>     import gtk
[03:21] <z3cU3c4> ImportError: No module named gtk
[03:21] <z3cU3c4> eric@eric-desktop:~$ xhat
[03:21] <vwhydrowv> im talking about taking the cd issue out
[03:21] <PurpZeY> !paste | z3
[03:21] <skone> I got compiz installed and when I press ctrl+alt+left arrow I dont have a cube.  I only have two sides it flips between.  any ideas?
[03:21] <vwhydrowv> where it asks for the cd
[03:21] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: sources.list or in synaptic
[03:21] <vwhydrowv> ok
[03:21] <ubotu> z3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:21] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[03:21] <Krumar> is there any way to use the archive manager to create an archive of certain sizes, say 4.3 GB so i can fit them nicely on DVDs?
[03:21] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, kinglet@kinglet-laptop:~$ sudo aptitude install totem-gstreamer
[03:21] <kinglet> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:21] <kinglet> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:21] <kinglet> Reading package lists... Done
[03:21] <kinglet> Building dependency tree
[03:21] <kinglet> Reading state information... Done
[03:21] <kinglet> Initializing package states... Done
[03:21] <kinglet> Building tag database... Done
[03:21] <kinglet> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:21] <kinglet> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:21] <ethan961> doodluv:sorry, a mish-mash of thoughts there..., no, I mean right click-poppl menu. Sorry, I misread u. (I thought u meant might mouse) No, I am not aware.
[03:22] <vwhydrowv> sources.list says command not found
[03:22] <z3cU3c4> ok, sorry
[03:22] <PurpZeY> !paste | kinglet
[03:22] <ubotu> kinglet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:22] <Madhag> I have just done a text install of 7.10, how do I know roots password if I never entered it?
[03:22] <Flannel> kinglet: close any other package managers you have open
[03:22] <z3cU3c4> the link for the log is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50808/
[03:22] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Can you get to synaptic?
[03:22] <vwhydrowv> yes
[03:22] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: Make sure that all other synaptic apt-get updates, etc. are closed
[03:22] <Doodluv> ethan961: no problem, thank you anyway.
[03:22] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I fix it
[03:22] <itrebal> on my Compaq Presario C300, I'm getting errors (and tons of them) that say.. http://paste2.org/p/11436 any ideasw hy that might be?
[03:22] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, Yes I close it! lol sorry
[03:22] <rajasun> kinglet: sudo pkill aptitude or sudo pkill apt-get. Retry
[03:23] <Shadow147> hey I need libc6.1-1.so.2 file from libstdc++
[03:23] <Madhag> does root have a standard password on install?
[03:23] <Flannel> Madhag: No, there is no root password.  The root account is disabled
[03:23] <Pici> !root | Madhag
[03:23] <ubotu> Madhag: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:23] <jtjt> Madhag, afaik ther is no root you have to do sudo with your user password
[03:23] <Madhag> ook
[03:23] <Shadow147> nm
[03:24] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Ok, do it by synaptic open synaptic. go to repositories and turn off CD as an option
[03:24] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: ok im not sure what i am doing wrong but there is no 'System -> Preferences -> Theme'
[03:24] <Madhag> ok, I need to get X running
[03:24] <ipzim> !x
[03:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:24] <marcus> alo
[03:24] <vwhydrowv> found it
[03:24] <vwhydrowv> just removed them
[03:24] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[03:24] <PurpZeY> Synx_hm: Are you in gutsy?
[03:24] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: yup
[03:24] <jtjt> madhag, startx
[03:25] <FrostRat> Does anybody here use the Hauppauge PVR-150?
[03:25] <jack_> any help with copyin dvd's?
[03:25] <Madhag> startx is a no go
[03:25] <Krumar> is there any way to use the archive manager to create an archive of certain sizes, say 4.3 GB so i can fit them nicely on DVDs?
[03:25] <PurpZeY> Synx_hm: I dunno, I have an option for theme but I am in feisty, I am thinking that it was eliminated with the advent of compiz
[03:25] <Shadow147> damn it
[03:25] <ipzim> Madhag:  Then,  configure your X system.
[03:25] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: BTW what was wrong with xine?
[03:25] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: rgr, i just need some way to select icon themes etc ill figure it out, thanks :)
[03:25] <jason> Hey all
[03:25] <jtjt> madhag, Back to the read me ubotu posted
[03:26] <PurpZeY> Synx_hm: For icons, there are instructions in the readme of a lot of the downloadables
[03:26] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: just not in the pack i got lol
[03:26] <jason> hey so heres a question...
[03:27] <PurpZeY> Synx_hm: Check gnome-look
[03:27] <getisboy> how do you use at? the man page isn't very clear
[03:27] <rajasun> Krumar: Not too sure if any of the following can handle. But have u tried compressing with frontends like file-roller xarchive xarchiver? Can opt for 7zip
[03:27] <Madhag> configure x how
[03:27] <Synx_hm> PurpZeY: wilco thanks
[03:27] <Madhag> that sudo command does not work
[03:27] <jason> can anyone tell me how to change my desktop to look like the one in Die Hard 4
[03:27] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I don know! I couldnot play any files
[03:27] <jason> with the chat windows built into the desktop
[03:27] <jtjt> mzdhag, what happens??
[03:27] <PurpZeY> jason: You mean a terminal built into the desktop?
[03:27] <Madhag> command not found
[03:27] <jason> yeah i think so
[03:27] <jason> im not sure
[03:28] <jason> im still learning
[03:28] <Madhag> will try again
[03:28] <Madhag> !x
[03:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:28] <ipzim> !compiz
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:28] <jason> i was thinking more like msn...Gaim
[03:28] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: strange, I can play all the files I can play in gstreamer, and more.
[03:28] <Krumar> rajasun, i've just been trying to use Archive manager, i thought i remembered on opotion for breaking up the archive, but i can't find it, i may have just been reading it in the man page for tar though
[03:28] <PurpZeY> jason: There is a tutorial on how to embed a terminal in the desktop, check the forums. A program called devilspie
[03:28] <jtjt> madhag, what command are you issuing?
[03:28] <jason> wow...great thanks
[03:28] <Madhag> this command
[03:28] <Madhag> !x
[03:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:28] <PurpZeY> jason: I found it more annoying than anything else, personally.
[03:29] <jason> oh really
[03:29] <PurpZeY> and I like eye candy
[03:29] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, ahhh! when I'm goin to install Totem Packages , error!!
[03:29] <jason> you know, i dont really talk on msn that much now anyway, so i dont neeeeed to do it
[03:29] <jason> eye candy?
[03:29] <rajasun> Krumar: yeah that could be the way. But do consider p7zip-full. Offers way higher compression ratio than the competition. Check the package out.
[03:29] <jason> i have seen that a lot, but what is it
[03:29] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: What happenned?
[03:29] <jtjt> madhag, !x is not a command in ubuntu afaik
[03:29] <vwhydrowv> wow, this is too easy
[03:29] <Krumar> rajasun, i wasn't hoping to compress so much as just break files up to make better use of a DVD
[03:29] <vwhydrowv> man
[03:30] <vwhydrowv> this is so great
[03:30] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, when I will installing Totem from Synaptic
[03:30] <rajasun> Krumar: no worries there.
[03:30] <Madhag> I did that so I could see the command to restat x silly
[03:30] <Madhag> !x
[03:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:30] <jason> hey Purpzey?
[03:30] <Krumar> rajasun, thank you, i'll check all that out
[03:30] <Madhag> sudo /etc etc etc
[03:30] <rajasun> Krumar: np. :)
[03:30] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, It show me an error that includes: could not applye changes! fix broken packages first
[03:31] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, and when I will fix it in Broken Tab
[03:31] <Doodluv> ethan961: mouseemu did the trick. Just installed and uncommented the line: "RIGHT_CLICK="-right 29 272"
[03:31] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, it want to remove all of my files in Ubuntu :O
[03:31] <Doodluv> ...in /etc/default/mouseemu
[03:31] <jason> thanks for your help
[03:32] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: what packages do you see in "Custom filters"  -> "broken"?
[03:32] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, libgstremer-plugins-base0.10
[03:33] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, and when I mark it for remove
[03:33] <Shadow147> I need to install a package but a file from another package is in the way how do I fix this?
[03:33] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: Can you mark that for reinstall/intall?
[03:33] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, want to remove all files!!
[03:33] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, no!
[03:33] <shadix> hey I'm having troubles with my splash on Gutsy. After grub my scren goes blank as if there is no sig. I thought it was a resolution issue but none of the options I've tried in the /boot/grub/menu.lst work. the olny i've got it to work is to just delete "splash from "quiet splash"
[03:33] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: What happens?
[03:34] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, I don know :(
[03:34] <Odd-rationale> kinglet: I really need to go now, some people are waiting for me. Sorry for the trouble. :(
[03:34] <vwhydrowv> how do you change permissions on a file and give it write permission?
[03:34] <PurpZeY> !usplash | shadix
[03:34] <ubotu> shadix: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:35] <PurpZeY> !splash | shadix
[03:35] <ubotu> shadix: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:35] <kinglet> Odd-rationale, no buddy! :X take it easy no problem
[03:35] <max> hello
[03:35] <Shadow147> vwhydrowv chmod
[03:35] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[03:35] <rajasun> vwhydrowv: man chmod man chown
[03:36] <Shadix> right I don't want custom artwork exactly...I want to boot my comp
[03:37] <max> i've got a problem with firefox, it says that flash is not installed when I am on a page with it, but then I follow the prompt to install the flashplayer-nonfree package in firefox it says it's already installed.. checking my installed packagages I see that flashplayer-nonfree is installed
[03:37] <nickrud> Shadix, why would custom artwork keep you from booting?
[03:37] <mheath> Is anyone here aware of a good solution to the Black Screen on Resume form Hibernate bug some Nivida cards have?
[03:37] <mheath> I mentioned that before and was told it was a common bug
[03:37] <nickrud> !brokenflash | max
[03:37] <ubotu> max: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:37] <mheath> But I'm having trouble finding any concise info on it. I've found several fixes for broken on Resume from Suspend, but my card works fine with Suspend.
[03:37] <cyph3x> awww i love you ubotu.
[03:38] <max> thanyou very much nickru
[03:38] <nickrud> max, look for the stuff in blue on that page
[03:39] <dhamma> i'm trying to run vorbisgain on all my ogg files, but am having trouble finding the right command...i know i can find the oggs with: find ~/ -type f -name *.ogg, but then using the right | xarg arguments haven't been working for me
[03:39] <Shadix> nickrud: the issue is that default is keeping me from booting as my card and the splash can't work together my monitor says no signal
[03:40] <Madha1> woow so much about the keyboard :)
[03:40] <Shadow147> hey nickrud maybe you can help me I have a package that has a file I need but when I try to install it another file stops it how do I fix this?
[03:40] <nickrud> Shadix, you can cut off the splash screen by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst   and removing   splash   from the kernel line, I need that so I don't have a blank terminal on boot
[03:41] <robdig> Shadix: maybe post number 9 on this link will help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405297
[03:41] <Pici> !fb | Shadix
[03:41] <ubotu> Shadix: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[03:41] <nickrud> Shadow147, could you put the complete output of the install run on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:41] <Pici> Shadix: That from ubotu might help as well
[03:41] <nickrud> Shadix, I'd try the link first
[03:41] <makuseru> is it possible to add a repo from an older version of Ubuntu and install a program from it?
[03:41]  * nickrud makes a note
[03:41] <pck> figured out my problem
[03:41] <Shadix> thx guys imma go tinker
[03:42] <Madha1> no valid font path
[03:42] <PurpZeY> makuseru: Doesn't sound like a great idea
[03:42] <dhamma> no one here is good w/ piping commands?
[03:42] <makuseru> PurpZeY: why?
[03:42] <IdleOne> makuseru: why not use the newer version from the prroper repo?
[03:42] <robdig> dhamma: what is your question?
[03:43] <makuseru> IdleOne: because i dont like the newer version
[03:43] <dhamma> i want to find all my oggs, then run vorbisgain on them
[03:43] <Pici> dhamma: just do: find ~/ -type f -name *.ogg -exec vorbisgain {} -whatever
[03:43]  * robdig thinks Pici's fingers are flying tonight
[03:43] <dhamma> Pici: i was using | xargs...maybe that's what the problem was
[03:44] <conyos-ma> O La La
[03:44] <rajasun> makuseru: unless u happened to be on the unstable branch ala hardy (at this juncture), and if the particular package is b0rked, there's no reason to use an older package.
[03:44] <jtjt> How do I change the boot options in grub? I have the menu.list open. Can I simply copy windows to the top of the list??
[03:44] <IdleOne> makuseru: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the .deb and install it using dpkg -i packagename.deb  I wouldnt enable an older repo as it might bring in a whole bunch of stuff
[03:45] <makuseru> IdleOne: the pakage isnt in the new repos
[03:45] <joeb3_> jtjt, change the Default line.
[03:45] <IdleOne> makuseru: but it is in the older one
[03:45] <rajasun> 1 question for the room though. Out of curiousity, is there a snapshot.debian.org equiv for ubuntu?
[03:45] <makuseru> IdleOne: yes
[03:46] <joeb3_> jtjt, default = 0  (boot the first one)
[03:46] <IdleOne> makuseru: there are packages available for 5 version of ubuntu I believe on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <nickrud> rajasun, the old repos are still available, even for the discontinued releases but no snapshots I've heard of
[03:46] <Belboz99> Hey all, I need help setting up a wifi-access point
[03:46] <makuseru> IdleOne: ill go look
[03:46] <Madha1> I reconfigured my xserver etc
[03:46] <Madha1> startx still wont kick in
[03:46] <Belboz99> right now I've got wlan0 listed in ifconfig -a
[03:46] <rajasun> nickrud: ahh. 10q
[03:47] <Shadow147> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50813/
[03:47] <Belboz99> but how do I set the mode to Master?
[03:47] <Belboz99> or the newer way, set the wlanmode to ap?
[03:47] <nickrud> Shadow147, do you have any repos other than ubuntu ?
[03:47] <nickrud> Shadow147, or old ones :)
[03:47] <jtjt> joeb3_ : just looking at the thing now
[03:48] <angel> so google tells me it is pointless to set up a raid0 enviroment for my dektop
[03:48] <Shadow147> nickrud I have only the ubuntu repos
[03:48] <Shadow147> nickrud I have only the ubuntu repos the ones for ubuntu gutsy
[03:49] <atomicpoet> Hi there, I'm wondering if someone can help me with lock-up issues on my Toshiba Satellite A25.
[03:49] <Vrga> i was wondering if there's anyone who knows about X?
[03:49] <Vrga> i have a bit of a large problem with it.
[03:49] <angel> any comments on RAID
[03:49] <jtjt> joeb3_ : So if I change the default to 3 it will boot the 4th line in grub???
[03:50] <pck> angel: what do you want to know?
[03:50] <joeb3_> jtjt, yes
[03:50] <jtjt> I meant item
[03:50] <joeb3_> jtjt, the fourth line that begins with "Title"
[03:50] <nickrud> Shadow147, I don't find that package in ubuntu at all
[03:50] <jtjt> joeb3_ : Thank you
[03:50] <angel> pck: is there any performance increase for a desktop
[03:51] <pck> you're going to hate me, but depends
[03:51] <nickrud> Shadow147, that is, compat-libstdc++ isn't found in ubuntu from dapper on, according to packages.ubuntu.com. You had to get it from somewhere
[03:51] <pck> which raid configuration are you looking at
[03:51] <Shadow147> nickrud well it's not a ture ubuntu package I converted it from an rpm
[03:51] <angel> pck: y would i hate you? what does it depend on?
[03:51] <jbw4> guys, I'm trying to decide between Ubuntu Gusty and Debian Etch for a server...which would be recommended?
[03:51] <nickrud> Shadow147, there's your problem. rpms suck on ubuntu. A sec
[03:52] <Madha1> fatal server error, no fontpath could be found when I command startx
[03:52] <pck> angel: a lot, thats the problem. Depends on the raid configuration you use, the hardware you have, the speeds of the slowest hard drive
[03:52] <IdleOne> rpm sucks in any debian enviroment
[03:52] <Vrga> guys? can anyone help me with a X problem? everytime i restart the computer, when it boots back up to ubuntu i get the window for configuring the graph card and the monitor. i'm all out of ideas how to get it done...
[03:52] <nickrud> Shadix, first try sudo dpkg -r compat-libstdc++
[03:52] <flatline-kun> jbw4: Since you're in an Ubuntu chatroom...
[03:52] <angel> pck: i was going with software RAID0
[03:52] <Madha1> is there a sudo command to update the system
[03:53] <nickrud> Shadix, sorry, Shadow147 the above was for  you
[03:53] <angel> Madha1: sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <IdleOne> Madha1: sudo apt-get update or upgrade
[03:53] <jbw4> flatline-kun: I assume most ubuntu-ers are debian fans as well
[03:53] <Madha1> to replace missing files or important software
[03:53] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, hey, what's up
[03:53] <Madha1> thanks
[03:53] <flatline-kun> jbw4: Do you mean a LAMP server, DNS Server?
[03:53] <Vrga> can anyone help me?
[03:53] <jbw4> so, I guess my real question...can you use debootstrap on Gutsy to create a Debian Etch file system?
[03:53] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x, same old, cleaning out rpms
[03:54] <jbw4> flatline-kun: it's actually a Rails server
[03:54] <angel> jbw4: i was a debian fan but ubuntu is so much better. but had i not been a debian fan i would have never met ubuntu
[03:54] <soldats> !ask | Vrga
[03:54] <bewkard> Can someone please help me troubleshoot my sound in ubuntu 7.10?
[03:54] <ubotu> Vrga: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:54] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, oh fun!
[03:54] <jbw4> angel: agreed on desktop...I'm undecided on server side
[03:54] <pck> angel: raid0 usually results in a small performance boost, however in my experience it is small enough that it isn't worth the fact that if ONE of you drives fail, ALL your data is lost
[03:54] <Shadow147> nickrud steven@steven-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -r compat-libstdc++_7.3-3.96_i386.deb
[03:54] <Shadow147> dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[03:54] <Shadow147> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*];
[03:54] <Shadow147> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[03:54] <Shadow147> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[03:54] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x, it is, actually. Nothing like remote surgery on some one else's machine
[03:54] <Shadow147> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[03:54] <Shadow147> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[03:54] <Shadow147> Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*].
[03:54] <vwhydrowv> when i try to reset the pasword to mysql im getting error 2002 (HY000) can't connect to local mysql server through socket 'var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:54] <soldats> !enter | Shadow147
[03:54] <ubotu> Shadow147: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:54] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, oh!  Awesome!
[03:55] <jbw4> does anyone know if I can create a Debian Etch image with debootstrap on Gutsy
[03:55] <Ashfire908> !pastebin | Shadow147
[03:55] <ubotu> Shadow147: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:55] <vwhydrowv> can someone help me with this please?
[03:55] <jbw4> Shadow147: dude...stop cutting/pasting
[03:55] <Vrga> X problem. everytime i restart the computer, when it boots back up to ubuntu i get the window for configuring the graph card and the monitor. i'm all out of ideas how to get it done... the driver resets itself. i got an nvidia card and the newest drivers availible
[03:55] <Ashfire908> soldats, it was a paste
[03:55] <Shadow147> jbw4 STFU I KNOW
[03:55] <soldats> same diff
[03:55] <jbw4> Shadow147 no you shut the fuck up
[03:55] <IdleOne> !ohmy | Shadow147
[03:55] <ubotu> Shadow147: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:55] <pck> angel: if you have seperate HD controllers, its a bigger increase, but it depends on the computer
[03:55] <rajasun> ! anguage
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anguage - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <IdleOne> jbw4: stop'
[03:55] <flatline-kun> jbw4: That I can't tell you...I've used Ubuntu for a few LAMP servers...I would recommend it for that...but have no idea about a ROR server.
[03:55] <Ashfire908> ...
[03:55] <nickrud> Shadow147, you didn't need all the extra, just the main package name. copy my command
[03:55] <angel> pck: so then screw it! i'll look into overclocking then. thanks for your thoughts
[03:56] <Madha1> is there a sudo to force a reinstallation
[03:56] <rajasun> jbw4: np ;)
[03:56] <Shadow147> soldats Ashfire nickrud is trying to helpme
[03:56] <Shadix> curious what is "quiet splash"? a default splash image?
[03:56] <Shadow147> I used you command
[03:56] <vwhydrowv> when i try to reset the pasword to mysql im getting error 2002 (HY000) can't connect to local mysql server through socket 'var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:56] <scguy318> Shadix: suppresses terminal text + shows usplash
[03:56] <pck> angel: Yeah, I run raid 5 right now but only for data integrety not performance increase. If you want that, get a Raptor drive, or overclock :)
[03:56] <Vrga> so, nobody who knows how to take care of X problems?
[03:56] <Shadow147> nickrud I used your command and I got that as my result output
[03:56] <scguy318> !fixres | Vrga
[03:56] <ubotu> Vrga: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:56] <joeb3_> vwhydrowv, how are you trying to reset it?
[03:57] <nickrud> Shadow147, no, you did  sudo dpkg -r compat-libstdc++_7.3-3.96_i386.deb when I said sudo dpkg -r compat-libstdc++
[03:57] <Madha1> looks like no
[03:57] <Madha1> I have x problem
[03:57] <vwhydrowv> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password
[03:57] <kjp2> all the sudden when I boot my server i get: Timeout reached while wating for return value Could not receive return value from daemon process.
[03:57] <kjp2>    ...fail!
[03:57] <kjp2> anyone have any idea how to fix ?
[03:57] <IdleOne> Madha1: sudo apt-get -reinstall package
[03:57] <nickrud> Shadow147, and putting that stuff on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is considered good form here
[03:57] <vwhydrowv> then it asks me for password and verify
[03:57] <Madha1> thanks
[03:57] <IdleOne> !x | Madha1
[03:57] <ubotu> Madha1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:57] <jbw4> does anyone know if I can create a Debian Etch image with debootstrap on Gutsy
[03:57] <Shadow147> ok nickrud
[03:58] <robdig> vwhydrowv: might be better to ask that in #mysql
[03:58] <vwhydrowv> ok
[03:58] <nickrud> Shadow147, you still might get an error, about reinstall required, just let me know if it does
[03:59] <IdleOne> Madha1: for more info oon apt-get comands type man apt-get in a terminal
[03:59] <Shadow147> nickrud ok
[03:59] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a significant advantage for one using Fiesty to upgrade to gutsy?
[03:59] <Madha1> ok
[03:59] <IdleOne> xTheGoat121x: yes? no!
[03:59] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x, I get much better NetworkManager function
[03:59] <Shadow147> nickrud dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove compat-libstdc++ which isn't installed.
[04:00] <Madha1> why cant ubuntu see my fontpath?
[04:00] <xTheGoat121x> IdleOne, obviously it's got mixed results?
[04:00] <pck> xTheGoat121x: Yes
[04:00] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, good to know....
[04:00] <PurpZeY> xTheGoat121x: I haven't done it
[04:00] <PurpZeY> xTheGoat121x: For the reason you see now...No one seems to know why it's so much better
[04:01] <nickrud> Shadow147, ah, then it's not installed and you should be fine.  do   dpkg -l grep compat-libstdc++ , if you get no output, just run   sudo apt-get -f install , if there are no errors you're ok
[04:01] <IdleOne> xTheGoat121x: I upgraded immediately and did not really see a difference but I guess if you want to go ahead
[04:01] <xTheGoat121x> Were there any significant changes in the ACPI interface?  B/C Fiesty and my laptop ACPI don't fully cooperate.
[04:01] <ce_skol> lk
[04:01] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x, not having to fiddle with networking is a real improvement. And suspend/hibernate works also now that you mention it
[04:02] <kjp2> Anyone ideas on avahi failing to start? the error is: Timeout reached while wating for return value
[04:02] <kjp2> Could not receive return value from daemon process.
[04:02] <Shadow147> nickrud ok
[04:02] <pck>  xTheGoat121x: Gutsy has a better, more generally compatible network manager. Has fewer problems with restricted drivers. Compiz-fusion works much better and looks nicer than most macs, and it natively supports a S&!t load of hardware
[04:02] <YouKnowMe> robdig: http://pastebin.com/d68723fce
[04:02] <nickrud> Shadow147, when you're done there, how about letting us know why you wanted that lib, maybe there's an alternate here
[04:02] <ignignokt> hi, is there a way to make a script in your script folder automatically run in a new terminal every time you run it from the context menu?
[04:02] <IdleOne> nickrud: I am running an upgrade right now in Hardy and guess what package I just saw being setup: libstdc++5
[04:02] <pck>  xTheGoat121x: leap works a lot better for me too, which is important on my schools network
[04:03] <Shadow147> nickrud well I want to run AIM for linux
[04:03] <xTheGoat121x> pck, good to know.  I've got Gutsy on my tower but I've been putting off the upgrade on my laptop
[04:03] <nickrud> IdleOne, ah. I know that one, but I haven't run a redhat derived system in so long
[04:03] <IdleOne> nickrud: redhat?
[04:04] <nickrud> Shadow147, I don't know anything about aim, sorry but there are probably people here who do
[04:04] <scguy318> Shadow147: if you mean the official, it's quite a bit out of date and crap, you'd probably want to use Pidgin or Kopete, etc.
[04:04] <Leechzilla> I need to install the latest version of smartdimmer, but when I try to uninstall the one I have already, it says acpi-support* powermanagement-interface* and ubuntu-desktop* will also be removed. What do I do to install it?
[04:04] <nickrud> IdleOne, Redhat Package Management
[04:04] <IdleOne> nickrud: oh hehe
[04:04] <IdleOne> well ubuntu has libstdc++5
[04:04] <Shadix> scguy318: hey you were helping my on this issue before. The only solution I found was to delete the word "splash" from the kernel line. hwever with that I see all the boot scripts an etc. Not bad butnot right.
[04:04] <PurpZeY> Leechzilla: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[04:04] <nickrud> IdleOne, tell Shadow147
[04:05] <pck>  xTheGoat121x: honestly, I always dual booted XP until gutsy, now I finally got rid of windows and I don't miss it for a second. Every prior release of linux/ubuntu i've used always pissed me off or didn't work at a critical point so i felt i needed to have that safety net, i don't feel its needed any more. btw gutsy machine dell laptop
[04:05] <Leechzilla> PurpZeY: I don't need it?
[04:05] <scguy318> Shadix: so what was it that you want?
[04:05] <IdleOne> nickrud: no you tell him:P Shadow147 in ubuntu libstdc++5
[04:05] <YouKnowMe> I'm having trouble with slimserver, http://pastebin.com/d5b2b1eb . I assume its bad permissions but I can't even find the file its looking for. http://pastebin.com/d68723fce Help?
[04:05] <Shadix> a splash screen
[04:05] <tqt1586_> cc
[04:05] <tqt1586_> 
[04:05] <tqt1586_> c
[04:05] <tqt1586_> c
[04:05] <PurpZeY> Leechzilla: Perhaps nickrud can verify that, but as I understand it ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage sometimes when taking out other packages it gets removed and it is incidental
[04:05] <scguy318> Shadix: well, that's what splash gives you :P
[04:05] <IdleOne> tqt1586_: stop now please
[04:05] <hjoilj> hi! everyone
[04:05] <xTheGoat121x> pck, honestly, I'm sticking with a dual boot on my laptop, and a tri-boot on my desktop, simply for the sake of my customers.
[04:06] <scguy318> Shadix: you wanted to change it?
[04:06] <nickrud> Leechzilla, yes that's true. ubuntu-desktop is only required when upgrading from one release to another
[04:06] <Shadix> scguy318: lol I got it to just go blank now with not lines and whatnot, but I take it you can have a custom image right?
[04:06] <Madha1> my X problem seems to come down to the fact that no fontpath can be seen
[04:06] <pck_>  xTheGoat121x: Oh, I'm not hating on windows, just trying to convey the increase in system stability with 7.10
[04:06] <nickrud> Leechzilla, think of ubuntu-desktop package as just a list of packages, when you remove one of the list the list gets removed as well.
[04:06] <scguy318> !usplash | Shadix
[04:06] <ubotu> Shadix: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:06] <Madha1> anyone got an idea?
[04:06] <scguy318> Shadix: this is it
[04:06] <Leechzilla> nickrud: what about acpi-support* and powermanagement-interface*?
[04:07] <kjp2> grr
[04:07] <xTheGoat121x> pck
[04:07] <Madha1> !fontpath
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fontpath - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <Malik_> hey how much ram do u need to atucally enjoy ubuntu?
[04:07] <IdleOne> Madha1: you getting any errors?
[04:07] <xTheGoat121x> pck, didn't think you were.  If it wasn't for my customers, trust me, I'd be loooong done with windows.
[04:07] <Shadow147> IdleOne nickrud libstdc++5
[04:07] <xTheGoat121x> BRB
[04:07] <Madha1> fatal server error
[04:08] <IdleOne> Shadow147: yes
[04:08] <Madha1> no fontpath
[04:08] <Shadow147> IdleOne nickrud libstdc++5 is the latest version
[04:08] <Madha1> on startx
[04:08] <IdleOne> Shadow147: yes I know
[04:08] <nickrud> Leechzilla, yes, those are in the list. if you remove just those, the rest of packages in the list will stay. You can see the complete list with apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <k31th> Can anyone in the USA let me know if the time has passed 10/9C ?
[04:08] <kjp2> Shadow147: do you have any idea what would cause avahi to fail with the error: Timeout reached while wating for return value
[04:08] <kjp2> Could not receive return value from daemon process.
[04:08] <PurpZeY> k31th: Yes, it has
[04:08] <IdleOne> k31th: just did
[04:08] <Malik_> how much ram do u need to completly enjoy ubuntu???
[04:08] <Shadix> scguy318: awesome back to tinkering. BTW thanks for the help earlier because of it i was able to use my comp and fall madly in love with Linux.
[04:08] <pck_> its 10:09 US CT
[04:08] <nickrud> Shadow147, like I said, I don't know aim, or what it needs to run
[04:09] <Shadow147> kjp2 no I don't
[04:09] <IdleOne> Malik_: the more the better 256mb is ok
[04:09] <k31th> an hour ago?
[04:09] <Leechzilla> nickrud but what are those packages for? I don't need them?
[04:09] <kanuha> help, sound works in totem, but not mplayer or xmms
[04:09] <Malik_> and can u help me with upgrading it
[04:09] <Shadow147> nickrud it needs libc6.1-1.so.2
[04:09] <Madha1> can I force the installation of all fonts via sudo?
[04:09] <pck_> nickrud, have you tried pigden
[04:09] <k31th> or? littly 9 minsa ago
[04:09] <pck_> pidgin
[04:09] <Malik_> like i opened up my computer
[04:09] <k31th> litterly
[04:09] <Malik_> and i saw that it has 4 slots in it
[04:09] <kjp2> drat.
[04:09] <kjp2> anyone else ?
[04:09] <ignignokt> is there a way to make a script in your script folder automatically run in a new terminal every time you run it from the context menu?
[04:09] <pck_> 9 Central was exactly an hour ago
[04:09] <pck_> in US
[04:10] <pck_> well an hour and a minute now
[04:10] <grep100> 4 gigs of memory is a waste, it never uses all of the memory
[04:10] <Belboz99> Hey, I just installed madwifi, but had earlier installed the rt61 driver manually, should I blacklist both the rt61 and rt61pci drivers?
[04:10] <nickrud> Leechzilla, if you want any powermanagement or improved hardware support for suspend and for things I have no clue about otherwise, you want them
[04:10] <IdleOne> !search libstdc++5
[04:11] <ubotu> Found:
[04:11] <YouKnowMe> I'm having trouble with slimserver, http://pastebin.com/d5b2b1eb . I assume its bad permissions but I can't even find the file its looking for. http://pastebin.com/d68723fce Help?
[04:11] <rajasun> grep100: that depends. If u r running some other source based distros on top of Ubuntu or a flavour of BSD and compiling from ports or that u build software 4 GB of RAM is about it.
[04:11] <IdleOne> !search libstdc++
[04:11] <nickrud> !search libc6.1-1.so.2
[04:11] <Leechzilla> nickrud yeah I need power management, but it wont let me uninstall only smartdimmer
[04:11] <bullgard4> [Gutsy] What does 'frv' stand for in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/arch/frv/kernel/setup.c?
[04:12] <ballin> hello
[04:12] <grep100> rajasun: if you use a PAE kernel or a 64 bit kernel it might get used occasionally but it's dependent on the program to use it
[04:13] <kanuha> anyone know of good laptop deals that will run Ubuntu without hardware issues?
[04:13] <zhan_zr> kanuha: What is your problem with hardware?
[04:13] <tjmac> hey all
[04:14] <pck_> kanuha - I use a 3 year old dell inspiron 6000 using gutsy - flawless
[04:14] <sloanesky> Im trying to get grub to boot a windows xp installation I have on the second partition of my hard drive (ubuntu being on the first) When I try to load windows xp through grub I just get a black screen with a blinking underscore in the top left. Here is the entry in my menu.lst for windows: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/50815/
[04:14] <pck_> I'd recommend an nvidia card
[04:14] <ballin> yeah ubuntu runs on my compaq from 2000 fine
[04:14] <kanuha> pck, thx
[04:14] <pck_> because ATI + ubuntu generally sucks
[04:14] <tjmac> How do I set up my wireless card on my laptop?
[04:14] <tjmac> for Linux?
[04:14] <nickrud> Leechzilla, hm, you could remove /usr/bin/smartdimmer , that way it's not available for use. Or, edit /etc/acpi/sonybright.sh and comment out the lines that have smartdimmer in them (the only lines under acpi I found). The best way would be to create an equivs package for smartdimmer, but I'm not real familiar with how those are made
[04:15] <DWonderly> I'm running an ATI X1650 with compiz running and everytime I try to run anything else high end graphics wise Gnome restarts my session.
[04:15] <rajasun> grep100: yeah perhaps. Don't laugh at me, but once tried building openoffice.org suite on fbsd, while simultaneously working on a video, ate up my system
[04:15] <PurpZeY> tjmac: Depends on the card, many cards work out of box
[04:15] <zhan_zr> kanuha: I am using a Intel GMA graphic card,and it is okay.
[04:15] <kanuha> zhan_zr, sound works in totem, but not mplayer or xmms on my desktop pc
[04:15] <tjmac> I don't know what it is, it's in my macbook
[04:15] <PurpZeY> DWonderly: That sounds like a question best addressed to #compiz-fusion
[04:15] <grep100> rajasun: what me laugh at anyone?
[04:15] <DWonderly> thanks.
[04:15] <nickrud> !info equivs
[04:15] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[04:15] <rajasun> ;)
[04:15] <zhan_zr> kanuha: You think it is a hardware issue?
[04:16] <PurpZeY> tjmac: I don't know anything about that, but I'd check the forums if no one knows....It is obviously something MANY people had to deal with
[04:16] <ballin> is there anyway to update the codecs on the rhythym box music player?
[04:16] <PurpZeY> !codec
[04:16] <tjmac> Where is the forum at?
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <grep100> is anyone using an Nvidia 8800 GT video card?
[04:16] <kanuha> zhan_zr, no, that was a seperate question, sorry
[04:16] <PurpZeY> tjmac: ubuntuforum.org
[04:16] <tjmac> thanks
[04:16] <ballin> your the tits purp
[04:16] <nickrud> pck, the newer ati's seem to work pretty well. I'm crossing my fingers, hoping that amd is for real on their promise about opening the drivers
[04:17] <PurpZeY> excuse me?
[04:17] <xTheGoat121x> Back
[04:17] <Leechzilla> nickrud: But if I delete files like that, won't the repository think that it's still installed? What I wanna do is uninstall it first, try installing from source and see if it works, and go back to the one from repository if it didn't work
[04:17] <ballin> "the tits" is a phrase for "thank you very much you rock"
[04:17] <PurpZeY> oh ok
[04:17] <PurpZeY> cool
[04:17] <PurpZeY> I'm not hip to the jive
[04:17] <Shadix> heh
[04:17] <YouKnowMe> heh
[04:17] <PurpZeY> 24 is apparently too old for that.
[04:17] <ballin> it's alright man, i think it's only from nj.
[04:17] <Shadix> could be worse if he was Irish you'd be "the crack"
[04:17] <elkbuntu> ballin, can you avoid using that sort of slang in this channel. it's really quite disrespectful
[04:18] <ballin> elk why do you have to be my spoil sport!
[04:18] <ballin> i hear ya though, i'll refrain.
[04:18] <xTheGoat121x> ballin, I don't know about that, I live in NJ and I've never heard that.
[04:18] <DragonSpirit> slang is getting wierder and wierder and using more and more "offencive" words
[04:18] <rajesh> hi ..
[04:18] <kevogod> elkbuntu, You are not being respectful of ballin's culture.
[04:18] <PurpZeY> !hi | rajesh
[04:18] <ubotu> rajesh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:18] <elkbuntu> kevogod, dont start
[04:18] <rajesh> thank u
[04:18] <nickrud> Leechzilla, you can install the equivs package. You can use it to create a dummy smartdimmer package, and that will allow you to replace it with the ubuntu one. Then you can do your compilation test
[04:19] <ballin> goat - probably just me then, it's stemming from 'the b*lls' which came from anchorman
[04:19] <Shadix> yah what if i said "that's a beauty eh!?" would that be disrespectful?
[04:19] <ballin> oh snap, someones getting banned
[04:19] <nickrud> Leechzilla, the instructions would be in /usr/share/doc/equivs . And you will need to keep the acpi package, it has the scripts that implement smartdimmer
[04:19] <ballin> !codecs
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:20] <DragonSpirit> I'm sure there is something about everyone's culture that offends others
[04:20] <elkbuntu> ballin, actually, i removed a protective ban
[04:20] <xTheGoat121x> ballin, out of curiousity,, north J or south J?
[04:20] <PurpZeY> s
[04:20]  * nickrud is offended that someone would use a lizard name
[04:20] <ballin> goat, up north, you
[04:20] <ballin> ?
[04:20] <DragonSpirit> xTheGoat121x, newerk new jersey, if I spelled it right
[04:21] <ballin> elk, i know i'm just bustin some cajones
[04:21] <ballin> dragon newark (a couple miles down from me)
[04:21] <xTheGoat121x> ballin, grew up in North Arlington, live just outside of Philly now.
[04:21] <ballin> goat: get out man, i've lived in lyndhurst most of my life.
[04:21] <nickrud> !ot
[04:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:21] <Shadix> see there cajones could be bad if you wern't south american
[04:21] <elkbuntu> ballin, whilst i realise you're from the hood and all, but this channel is english only. (homie isn't english ;))
[04:21]  * PurpZeY was waiting for that 
[04:21] <xTheGoat121x> ballin, too funny.  talk about a small world.
[04:22] <ballin> just moved to na.
[04:22] <ballin> your tellinme.
[04:22] <DragonSpirit> lmao elkbuntu
[04:22] <angel> OMG it is imposible to overclock my piece of crap DELL
[04:22] <nickrud> I am so off topic sometimes, it's nice to call it :)
[04:22] <ballin> elk gotcha gotcha, you guys should get with the times!
[04:22] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, :P  I just met someone from my home area
[04:22] <elkbuntu> ballin, it's not fair on the people who struggle to understand proper english
[04:22] <PurpZeY> your hood
[04:22] <Shadix> elk are you American?
[04:23] <elkbuntu> ballin, xTheGoat121x, im pretty sure there'd be a local team for your area
[04:23] <elkbuntu> Shadix, no, aussie
[04:23] <dcesiel_> Have any of you guys had problems with disturbed audio? LIke background noise and crackling.  And it's still there when I unload my alsa module...
[04:23] <xTheGoat121x> elkbuntu, .... local team?
[04:23] <PurpZeY> Oh that makes sense then English isn't your native language...;)
[04:23] <kevogod> Proper English is a thing of the past.
[04:23] <ballin> elk but then what if they are caught in a dispute with someone.. and someone actually called them the t*ts, they'd take offense to that.. so i'm actually doing a public service, by not getting someone a mean look
[04:23] <grep100> I have a Nvidia 8800 GT video card and lspci shows: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0611 (rev a2)
[04:23] <nickrud> !loco | xTheGoat121x
[04:23] <ubotu> xTheGoat121x: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[04:24] <elkbuntu> xTheGoat121x, ballin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewJerseyTeam
[04:24] <xTheGoat121x> elkbuntu, that's so cool
[04:24] <Cubexombi> hopefully a quick question, I'm installing on my laptop, but i want to set up dual boot with 2 gusty installs, what's the best way to go around doing that? assuming I've got a blank slate I'm sitting at gparted on the first install.
[04:24] <kjp2> oh this is driving me CRAZY
[04:24] <Leechzilla> How do I check how much space I have free on my hard drive from terminal?
[04:24] <nickrud> grep100, you have to use the nvidia drivers from their site, the ones in ubuntu are too old for your card
[04:24] <PurpZeY> Cubexombi: 2 gutsys?
[04:24] <kjp2> could avahi fail to start because I turned off ipv6 in the router ?
[04:24] <ballin> i'm not really a team player
[04:25] <ballin> unless $$ is involved ;D
[04:25] <xTheGoat121x> ballin, LoL
[04:25] <scguy318> Leechzilla: df
[04:25] <nickrud> Cubexombi, keep them on separate partitions, share the swap, share the home. Do not use a separate boot partition
[04:25] <dcesiel_> Have any of you guys had problems with disturbed audio? LIke background noise and crackling.  And it's still there when I unload my alsa module...??
[04:25] <ballin> now how do i get it so my rhythym plays my hard to play songs?
[04:25] <xTheGoat121x> elkbuntu, well that might be a good resource, I've been trying to get a little more involved.
[04:25] <grep100> nickrud: I know, but I am really wondering about lspci giving the strange results that says the nvida card is unknown
[04:26] <Cubexombi> nickrud, assuming i go for that option i take it all my user configs will be shared between the two, but apps themmselves would have to be installed individually?
[04:26] <ballin> see elk, and you said my profanity was for a bad thing.
[04:26] <scguy318> ballin: codec issue?
[04:26] <Shadix> elkbuntu, So there your Aussie and I'm a Canuk and niether of us can claim to speak true English since what we speak really is just a pervertion of the English language our ancetors brought with them from England. Eh?
[04:26] <ballin> scguy: i'm pretty sure, i opened totem, it dl'd the codec and worked find.
[04:27] <joeb3_> grep100, mine says: 02:02.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[04:27] <scguy318> !medibuntu | ballin
[04:27] <ballin> fine*
[04:27] <ubotu> ballin: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:27] <maxd> sup folks?
[04:27] <nickrud> Cubexombi, yes, each install would have separate package installs
[04:27] <scguy318> ballin: probably might need w32codecs or w64codecs
[04:27] <grep100> English is a very dynamic language and there is probably no true version
[04:27] <joeb3_> grep100, I'm using the restricted drivers.
[04:27] <tjmac> ok
[04:28] <tjmac> I cannot find out on the forums how to activate my wireless and sound card
[04:28] <voltHeir> yo - i can't connect to a mysql instance from a remote server.  commenting out the bind-address and skip-name-resolve aren't solving it...any ideas?
[04:28] <voltHeir> (i ask here because i have no problems on other distros)
[04:28] <Cubexombi> PurpZey, yup, need to have 2, one for me to goof off in, the other I'm building a USB live drive from...
[04:28] <grep100> I edited my xorg.conf and tried the nv driver and that was a big mistake, crashed X
[04:28] <elkbuntu> Shadix, we can at least understand each other. "homie talk" is a challenge for even me to decypher
[04:28] <ballin> elk - no homie talk here.
[04:28] <ballin> ;D
[04:29] <joeb3_> does mysql -h IP work?
[04:29] <ballin> aside from rhythyym i'm spelling my words correctly, and forming some what understanding sentences
[04:29] <wastrel> whee
[04:29] <tjmac> can anyone remote into my computer and help me?
[04:29] <ballin> sc: sweet, i'm dumb how do i go about installing that
[04:29] <nickrud> ballin, or at least, only the obviously clean parts ;)
[04:29] <Cubexombi> nickrud, sounds good enough to me. thanks...  hopefully this won't take too long
[04:29] <grep100> I had to go back and change the driver to vesa to get X working again
[04:29] <elkbuntu> ballin, the jersey team isnt just about working on projects, it's a 'talk to other people near you who use ubuntu' channel as well
[04:29] <ballin> =]
[04:29] <voltHeir> joeb3_ : from where?
[04:30] <joeb3_> voltHeir, from the machine you are connecting from
[04:30] <grep100> the vesa driver is limited to 1600x1200 with this monitor
[04:30] <wastrel> "limited to"
[04:30] <voltHeir> the client in this case is a windows box - i'm using the mysql gui tool in this case
[04:30] <wastrel> i'm on 1024x768
[04:30] <grep100> the monitor will run at 1920x1200
[04:30] <angel> ubuntu 8.04?
[04:30] <wastrel> ah widescreen
[04:30] <ballin> elk: i might do that, i'm quitting the herb soon so i'm gonna need something to spend my free time with.
[04:30] <nickrud> grep100, huh. Try using 1024x768 on a 1280x800 native
[04:30] <voltHeir> i can ping the server.  i can hit its web server.  lemme try command line
[04:30] <joeb3_> voltHeir, did you allow access from the windows ip address?  on the mysql server
[04:30] <grep100> its a 27" widescreen Dell 2707WFP
[04:31] <ballin> grep is on fire.
[04:31] <nickrud> grep100, where do you live, and when are you away?
[04:31] <voltHeir> joeb3_ i have a valid user from any host for this test.  in my.cnf skip-name-resolve is in there
[04:31] <ballin> throw me a couple bucks man, 27", that's larger then my tv.
[04:31] <rajasun> 1920x1200? U r making me drool!
[04:31] <grep100> Alaska, Kodiac and away all day
[04:31] <tjmac> screw linux I give up on this
[04:31] <tjmac> nothing works
[04:31] <ballin> grep: i envy you
[04:31] <joeb3_> grep100, any error message?
[04:32] <ballin> tjmaxx: don't fret man what's your problem
[04:32] <grep100> beware of the guard polar bears
[04:32] <xTheGoat121x> tjmac, what's wrong?
[04:32] <ballin> i'll take them on any day
[04:32] <ballin> just throw me some of that alaskan thunderf**k
[04:32] <tjmac> I cant get my wireless to work on my computer
[04:32] <grep100> no error megs with the vesa driver, it works just won't use the native resolution
[04:32] <angel> tjmac: lol what are you doing?
[04:32] <jack_> help with iso's again?
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Did I stumble into the wrong room
[04:32] <kjp2> Avahi is failing to load, claiming: Timeout reached while wating for return value
[04:32] <kjp2> How can I fix this ?
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: What is the prob
[04:33] <tjmac> this system is so hard to understand
[04:33] <ballin> jack sparrow: there is no 23 in this room!
[04:33] <nickrud> tjmac, what does  lspci say about your wireless card? Gotta start there
[04:33] <ballin> unless that was a wrong movie reference.
[04:33] <elkbuntu> ballin, asterix's dont change the meaning of the word
[04:33] <Leechzilla> nickrud: okay, I've installed it, but it doesnt say anything about uninstaiing existing apps
[04:33] <voltHeir> joeb3_ : damn symantic firewall on my client.  i spent 20 minutes trying to figure it out :p
[04:33] <xTheGoat121x> tjmac, what kind of system is it?
[04:33] <tjmac> macbook
[04:33] <ballin> elk- i can't help you with that last one, that's a name of something.. i'd change it if i could ;D
[04:33] <jack_> Jack_Sparrow: the iso that you had me create will it let me burn it using nero also?
[04:33] <voltHeir> i hate windoze.  ok enough noobery im out
[04:33] <nickrud> Leechzilla, you would give it a version number higher than smartdimmer, and it would replace the ubuntu one automatically
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> jack_: Nero will but I use isorecorder .. freeware...
[04:34] <elkbuntu> ballin, then use a different 'real thing' or take it to private messaging
[04:34] <ballin> but it's alaskan thunderfudge!
[04:34] <jack_> Jack_Sparrow: ok cool thanx
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:34] <ballin> wasn't important enough for pm.
[04:35] <LeChacal> hello, i have a question what does the file "/proc/modules" do for my system and is it important, because i am getting errors when working with it
[04:35] <Leechzilla> nickrud: Okay so while I'm installing from source.. After I do make, I just type sudo equivs instead of sudo make install?
[04:35]  * DragonSpirit installs ubuntu on his cat.
[04:35] <xTheGoat121x> Well then, I guess he gave up
[04:35] <xTheGoat121x> DragonSpirit, your cat is supported?!
[04:35] <nickrud> LeChacal, you would only read that file ...
[04:36] <wastrel> equivs?
[04:36] <ballin> while i'm in here, there's no gui to partition my hard drive in ubuntu (or windows for that matter), correct?
[04:36] <bruenig> LeChacal, just keeps track of all the running modules and such
[04:36] <grep100> the day I install ubuntu on my wife is the day to start worrying
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ballin: the live cd yes...
[04:36] <DragonSpirit> might have some minor incompatabilities
[04:36] <rajasun> ballin: tried gparted yet?
[04:36] <IcemanV9> ballin: gparted
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ballin: you can also use synaptic to install gparted
[04:37] <ballin> gparted you guys say?
[04:37] <LeChacal> nickrud: i was trying to read it with gedit and i got the error "The file /proc/modules changed on disk.", the reason i am trying to open it is because i am looking for a line that i think should be there but something else says is not there
[04:37] <nickrud> Leechzilla, you need to read the docs, that's not what it's for. wastrel he wants to remove smartdimmer without losing acpi-support , so he can experiment with a later version
[04:37] <angel> can i do netinstall for ubuntu?
[04:37] <scguy318> angel: yes
[04:37] <Shadix> elkbuntu, you have a point but what if I said " After a little stick-puck we should grab a Two-four and chase the puck bunnies. I found a few loonies in the chesterfield so we can get a double double on the way."
[04:37] <ucrit> is gutsy consume a lot power?
[04:37] <rajasun> ballin: yeah. There's an equiv for KDE folks...forgot the name though
[04:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > angel
[04:37] <bruenig> LeChacal, I would just cat it and read it in terminal
[04:37] <nickrud> LeChacal, it does change, and gedit is only letting you know it did. You won't be saving the file, so it's not an error
[04:38] <bruenig> or you can always just do "lsmod" since lsmod just parses and reformats /proc/modules
[04:38] <elkbuntu> Shadix, aye, but that's your canuk version of homie talk
[04:38] <angel> Jack_Sparrow, scguy318 where can i find a tutorial?
[04:38] <ballin> i would've thought that was british
[04:38] <DragonSpirit> Can I install Ubuntu from my alien home world in another solar system using pulsating radiation as a means of transport of data?
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> angel: I just linked one
[04:38] <Leechzilla> nickrud: I did, but it doesn't say anything about compiling packages
[04:38] <rajasun> ballin: qtparted is the KDE equiv of gparted
[04:39] <scguy318> !install | angel
[04:39] <ubotu> angel: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:39] <LeChacal> nickrud: but when i reload it, that is the option that it gives me i see nothing in there and shouldn't there be something in there? or what is it for?
[04:39] <Shadix> no these are all words found in the Canadian English dictionary yah Hoser!
[04:39] <nickrud> Leechzilla, it's not about compiling the package. It is about fooling the package management into thinking smartdimmer is installed so it won't try to remove acpi-support. Then you would do your compilation and testing separately
[04:39] <ballin> raja: i'm new to this scene. kde i'm assuming is ubuntu?
[04:39]  * DragonSpirit reads the guide to, maybe it has the answer to my alien transport of Ubuntu
[04:39] <ballin> aliens?!
[04:40] <IcemanV9> ucrit: why you say that? check the top
[04:40] <scguy318> ballin: KDE is a desktop environment
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit: Please stop the rambling
[04:40] <Shadix> but it's a wee bit offtopic
[04:40] <xTheGoat121x> BRB
[04:40] <ballin> gotcha sc
[04:40] <elkbuntu> Shadix, more than a wee bit
[04:40] <ballin> so how do i bring that to my computer, and partition this drive?
[04:40] <DragonSpirit> Jack_Sparrow, sorry, my attempt at being amusing.
[04:40] <LeChacal> nickrud: does this modules file have any connections to modules.dep
[04:40] <Aqua> evenin' folks
[04:40] <angel> Jack_Sparrow, scguy318 THANKS!
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:40] <NemesisD> is it possible to actually install grub on a windows drive but keep the grub files (menu.lst and whatnot) on another drive?
[04:41] <ballin> hi aqua
[04:41] <angel> ubotu: u 2
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u 2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <joeb3_> NemesisD, yes.
[04:41] <rajasun> ballin: an alternative desktop environment. Ubuntu comes with the GNOME desktop. want KDE? > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde-desktop qtparted. But if u want just a GUI partition proggie, gparted will suffice i.e. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:41] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey is the flash plug in broken in the repo
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> angel: ubotu is a bot...
[04:41] <Aqua> I've been beating my head trying to get a serial reciever working in lirc... only to findout that the ver that comes down with apt-get is broke for serial...
[04:41] <NemesisD> joeb3_, how would I achieve that?
[04:41] <nickrud> LeChacal, as bruenig pointed out, lsmod shows you the same information. I think a better thing would be for you to explain what you're trying to do, someone might have some help then
[04:41] <Aqua> it's said I can use the cvs for lirc
[04:41] <ballin> raja: you are the tots
[04:42] <ballin> elk: is that better, i was refering to tater tots?
[04:42] <ballin> =D
[04:42] <person1873> hi
[04:42] <Kuropon> Im running Virtualbox and I tryed installing winXP on it.. and it said that Virtualbox didnt have kernel... or something like that and hence didnt continue the installation. anyone can help me through this?
[04:42] <rajasun> ballin: nah. a ton of others here r not me
[04:42] <IcemanV9> !flash | vbabiy-laptop
[04:42] <ubotu> vbabiy-laptop: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:42] <elkbuntu> ballin, while it's less offensive, i have no clue what it's referring to
[04:42] <ballin> tots are delish elk
[04:42] <ballin> you knowit
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > ballin:
[04:43] <elkbuntu> ballin, here in australia, a tot is an infant human
[04:43] <Leechzilla> :[
[04:43] <ballin> raja: just take the complement!
[04:43] <LeChacal>  i am trying to run a sh file that i made from this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517136, it has to do with getting my mouse working but when i run the file i get "ERROR: Module usbhid does not exist in /proc/modules"
[04:43] <ballin> elk: you don't have tater tots? (and they are also kids here, but we call them kids, or other assorted names)
[04:43] <person1873> hey guys how do you include a string variable in C++
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ballin: Please try keeping on topic
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ballin, i have no clue what a tater tot is. although if i had to press it, it's chat potatoes
[04:44] <nickrud> LeChacal,   sudo modprobe usbhid
[04:44] <ballin> raja: after this installs, where do i open it.
[04:44] <ucrit> IcemanV9: thanks bro.. I will do that. Seems my laptop battery run out shortly.
[04:44] <ballin> jack: there is no topic!
[04:44] <rajasun> ballin ok. U r a cool dude but try to stay relevant. Peace. ;)
[04:44] <angel> Jack_Sparrow, scguy318 , ubotu : mini cds are God sent
[04:44] <Kuropon> Im running Virtualbox and I tryed installing winXP on it.. and it said that Virtualbox didnt have kernel... or something like that and hence didnt continue the installation. anyone can help me through this?
[04:44] <Dude-X> hey i am running ubuntu under vmware and after installing the vmware tools i lost my network connection. any idea how to get it back?
[04:44] <joeb3_> NemesisD, http://www.linux.com/feature/113945
[04:44] <Dude-X> ubuntu 7.10
[04:44] <ballin> elk: you don't know what a tater tot is... and damn am i that off balanced.
[04:45] <person1873> lol
[04:45] <gunnnnn> evenin everyone
[04:45] <elkbuntu> ballin, in the future if you need to say something non-support related, say it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:45] <ballin> but there's so many people in here!
[04:45] <kjp2> wow, it's like fricking amateur hour over in #linux
[04:45] <person1873> guys can someone tell me how to include a string variable in C++?
[04:46] <elkbuntu> ballin, that's why we keep ontopic and offtopic separated!
[04:46] <ballin> raja: alright i installed that over in terminal how do i go about opening it?
[04:46] <Dude-X> is there a way to say ipconfig /renew  in linux?
[04:46] <wastrel> person1873: string class
[04:46] <nickrud> LeChacal, /proc/modules is a list of kernel modules that are currently installed into the kernel, should have added that earlier
[04:46] <Kuropon> Im running Virtualbox and I tryed installing winXP on it.. and it said that Virtualbox didnt have kernel... or something like that and hence didnt continue the installation. anyone can help me through this?
[04:46] <ballin> elk: this is a sick sad world we are living in.
[04:46] <rajasun> ballin: Once installed, KDE will become an option when u login i.e. via the login manager GDM by default unless u have chosen to install kdm and supplant gdm as the deafult login manager instead
[04:46] <LeChacal> nickrud: isn't that the opposite of "sudo rmmod usbhid" which in the tutorial it tells me to do so that buttons on the mouse act like buttons on a keyboard (i think that is what it does)
[04:46] <elkbuntu> ballin, there's enough conversations had here that if we let all the offtopic ones happen here then nobody would have a clue what was going on
[04:46] <NemesisD> joeb3_, thanks!
[04:46] <gunnnnn> would this be the right channel for ubuntu installation related questions
[04:47] <elkbuntu> gunnnnn, yes
[04:47] <ballin> elk: gotcha
[04:47] <vbabiy-laptop> Here is what i get when i try to install the flash plug in http://pastebin.com/m1f6b133f
[04:47] <gunnnnn> thanks elkbuntu
[04:47] <khmer42> Could someone kindly lend a hand. I can´t install tcl/tk on Gutsy, Synaptic just keeps asking for the CD and not excepting the Gutsy CD when I insert it, is there anyway around this?
[04:47] <ballin> raja: i didn't go the qtparted way, i went with gparted
[04:47] <wastrel> ack what is this horrible console font
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> vbabiy-laptop: Did you read the link on flash is briken..
[04:47] <nickrud> LeChacal, yes, it is the opposite. And that would be a possible result, I guess.  sudo modprobe -r usbhid would be the preferred way rather than rmmod
[04:47] <rajasun> ballin: that will suffice.
[04:47] <vbabiy-laptop> Jack_Sparrow: the Ubuntu wiki
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues
[04:48] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[04:48] <ballin> raja: so just restart and i should find a way to open it?
[04:48] <rajasun> ballin: no need to restart/reboot
[04:48] <vbabiy-laptop> Thanks Jack_Sparrow I didn't see that
[04:48] <Kuropon> Im running Virtualbox and I tryed installing winXP on it.. and it said that Virtualbox didnt have kernel... or something like that and hence didnt continue the installation. anyone can help me through this?
[04:48] <rajasun> ballin: just type sudo gparted
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:48] <nickrud> LeChacal, so the script is expecting usbhid and trying to remove it, but it's not already loaded into the kernel, causing that error?
[04:48] <gunnnnn> i am trying to install ubuntu on my external USB hard drive. my computer is a macbook pro and I don't want to install the boot loader on my internal hard drive
[04:48] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hi! would you consider removing flash plugin and install gnash instead?
[04:49] <IcemanV9> !repeat | Kuropon
[04:49] <ubotu> Kuropon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: I made a backup and used the fix
[04:49] <ballin> raja: some more tater tots for you!.. now to only work out this codec
[04:49] <nickrud> Kuropon, you should probably ask that on #virtualbox
[04:49] <rajasun> ballin: np ;)
[04:49] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: did it work?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: The only problem will be when the real fix comes down
[04:50] <gunnnnn> in the installation process it prompts me to "install boot loader" on (hd0) ... i am not sure but that seems to be the internal hard disk
[04:50] <ballin> so what does fm stand for? i don't know it's hard to say!
[04:50] <gunnnnn> am i wrong on that
[04:50] <nickrud> gunnnnn, yes, that's the first drive in your machine
[04:50] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: would you consider using gnash....?
[04:50] <Jack_Sparrow> rodolfo: The workaround I used is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal. Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[04:50] <gunnnnn> so which command can i use to get the name of the external hard drive
[04:50] <LeChacal> nickrud: so then i should change the line in my script file that the tutorial had me make to "sudo modprobe -r usbhid" and then just ignore the error about it not be able to unload it because it isn't load in the first place?
[04:51] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, launchpadlibrarian.net?
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: that was the one I used...
[04:51] <nickrud> LeChacal, sounds right without reading the script.
[04:51] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:51] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, no, I never heard of it
[04:51] <rajasun> ballin: fm? ffmpeg u mean
[04:51] <LeChacal> nickrud: ok ill do that and it sounds fine thank you
[04:51] <ballin> raja: i was singing, my bad ;D
[04:51] <IcemanV9> rodolfo: that'll work
[04:52] <rodolfo> ok thx
[04:52] <rajasun> ballin: oh ;)
[04:52] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, I've gotta catch up on these ppa's and such
[04:52] <ballin> what's the off topic room again?
[04:52] <nickrud> !ot
[04:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Catch you tomorrow...  Time for me to call it a night
[04:54] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, see you. We're getting too predictable
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea.. I agree..
[04:54]  * nickrud thinks Jack_Sparrow's wife agrees too
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> She just laughed
[04:55] <nickrud> goodnight :)
[04:55] <gentux__> what time is it for you?
[04:56] <wastrel> almost midngiht
[04:56] <gentux__> ok, it's 5 AM here
[04:56] <ballin> you are insane gen
[04:56] <gentux__> lol
[04:56] <khmer42> Is there anyway to stop Ubuntu from trying to get packages from the CD and instead for straight to the net?
[04:56] <bengt_> Hi Guys, any chance of having the latest version of Monodevelop in Hardy? Current hardy have 0.14, but beta 3 of 1.0 have been released now
[04:56] <Baudelaire> hi...
[04:57] <ballin> hi baud
[04:57] <vbabiy-laptop> Thanks for the help with flash
[04:57] <rajasun> khmer42: tried commenting out the cd entry in your sources.list?
[04:57] <IcemanV9> khmer42: comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:57] <Baudelaire> how are you ballin
[04:57] <gentux__> bengt, can we use XNA with mono?
[04:57] <khmer42> Cheers I will give that a try
[04:57] <ballin> baud: i'm not too bad, just had a slamming dinner, yourself?
[04:57] <allbert> is it posible ubuntu 7.10 can't install on a p3?
[04:57] <rajasun> khmer42: np
[04:57] <bengt_> XNA?
[04:57] <ballin> elk: slamming means really good =]
[04:58] <gentux__> bengt, XNA game studio, I muste run Vista for using it
[04:58] <chuy_max> khmer42, you can do it using synaptic -> settings -> repositories, and remove CDs, and reloading, or do it manually modifying what other people said
[04:58] <Flannel> allbert: Did you get the PS3 ISO?
[04:58] <bengt_> gentux__: Dont know, not tried it
[04:58] <gentux__> ok
[04:58] <allbert> pardon me? Flannel ps3?
[04:58] <chuy_max> khmer42, if you do it manually, don't forget to do apt-get update
[04:59] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: so you consider this (new) version of flashplugin stable?
[04:59] <khmer42> chuy_max: Thanks for the heads up
[05:00] <Flannel> allbert: oh, erm.  Nevermind.  Yes, Ubuntu runs fine on a P3
[05:00] <allbert> i couldn't
[05:01] <kjp2> apparently, the ubuntu version of avahi REQUIRES app armor
[05:02] <ballin> bye
[05:03] <tabletguy> Hi all - noob question: is there a way for multiple groups to have (different) access to a file?
[05:04] <tabletguy> e.g.: all "admins" have RW, while all "staff" have R
[05:04] <sloanesky> Im trying to get grub to boot a windows xp installation I have on the second partition of my hard drive (ubuntu being on the first) When I try to load windows xp through grub I just get a black screen with a blinking underscore in the top left. Here is the entry in my menu.lst for windows: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/50815/ can someone take a look and see if they can figure out why it wont let me boot into windows? :(
[05:04] <jlw65> .
[05:05]  * syc_ assalamualaikum wr wb
[05:05] <bruenig> tabletguy, I think the only way to do it is to have staff just be treated the same as all of the others
[05:07] <tabletguy> bruenig: isn't that a security problem?
[05:07] <ssorel> hi
[05:07] <bruenig> tabletguy, how many groups do you have? are you trying to exclude them?
[05:08] <tabletguy> brunig: just a couple - I could probably do it with apache settings (it's for a website) but I'd have rather used the file system
[05:09]  * syc_ brb, sarapan
[05:09] <tabletguy> something similar to Window's ACL's
[05:10] <quinton_> kers and sound on comes from 1 of them
[05:10] <ethan961> how many people are on? it seems to have slowed down...
[05:10] <quinton_> I have recently got 5.1 speakers and sound only comes from 1 speaker, alsa miser has ALL channels turned up to max
[05:11] <moidekar> sloanesky: Is that a verbatim paste?
[05:11] <sloanesky> yes
[05:11] <moidekar> sloanesky: well, according to http://www.oculon.org/hijinx/linux/grub.htm there are supp to be "=" signs betw title and root keywords and assigned values.
[05:11] <sloanesky> without the ubuntu entries of course
[05:12] <sloanesky> hm, well, there arent any for the ubuntu entries
[05:12] <fiXXXerMet> Need some help.  I've setup a server with a static IP address of 192.168.2.3 and set the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf to 192.168.2.1.  The server previously used dhcp on another network.  My router can ping the machine just fine, but the machine is not able to ping back, nor resolve any hostnames.  Might I have missed changing something?
[05:12] <moidekar> sloanesky: eg root = (hd0,1)
[05:12] <quinton_> My 5.1 speakers only play from1 speaker... help please?
[05:12] <fiXXXerMet> I can even SSH into the machine.
[05:12] <sloanesky> Ill try it and come back if it doesnt work
[05:13] <moidekar> sloanesky: OK... puzzling that your ubu entries don't have = :-)
[05:13] <th0r> fiXXXerMet can you ping the ip address of the router from the server...is it just the host name resolution that is failing?
[05:13] <IcemanV9> quinton_: loose wire? (i mean one speaker works)
[05:13] <sloanesky> Ill paste the whole file verbatim in another pastebin
[05:14] <fiXXXerMet> th0r: Oddly enough, when I ping the IP, I get destination port unreachable.
[05:14] <sloanesky> moidekar: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/50824/
[05:14] <th0r> fiXXXerMet do you have a firewall running on either the server or the router? especially the router
[05:15] <quinton_> icemanV9, All wires check tight
[05:15] <smmagic> When I check my direct rendering I get this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". a few times. How do I fix it?
[05:15] <angel> hey guys, what do you call a setup where i have 10 pcs and 20 users that can log into any one of the 10 pcs to get their desktop and files?
[05:15] <sloanesky> maybe that page is out of date? the examples in the menu.lst dont have = signs
[05:15] <fiXXXerMet> th0r: The 'router' is actually a smoothwall firewall.  I had the server on the green (lan) zone, using dhcp, but just moved it over to the orange (dmz) zone, and set the ip static.
[05:15] <WorkingOnWis1> !clone
[05:15] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[05:16] <IcemanV9> quinton_: main volume is up?
[05:16] <quinton_> icemanv9, Yes, of course
[05:16] <moidekar> sloanesky: I agree - I just looked at my own menu.lst and the examples don't have "="
[05:16] <quinton_> icemanv9, ushually with this sound card to even get it to play I need to install the drivers, in this case on linux, it works but it only plays on the main speaker and subwoofer.
[05:17] <moidekar> sloanesky: what's the savedefault entry for? The example block in my menu.lst for Win2K doesn't have that keyword
[05:17] <quinton_> icemanv9, ecuse me, its playing from 2 speakers and the sub woofer.
[05:17] <th0r> fiXXXerMet first thing I would be tempted to do, considering that description, is to reset the server to dhcp and see what resolv.conf info it picks up from the router. You might also want to double check the iptables rules; it sounds like a firewall issue considering the move from the green zone to the orange.
[05:18] <sloanesky> Im not sure, one of the guides I found had it in there heh
[05:18] <vwhydrowv> is su the same as sudo?
[05:18] <kevogod> vwhydrowv, No
[05:18] <vwhydrowv> ok
[05:18] <TrevorRose> Hi guys, can someone help me with a quick audio question?
[05:18] <IcemanV9> quinton_: so it is working now?
[05:18] <vwhydrowv> im trying to do    sudo /etc/init.d/httpd start
[05:18] <vwhydrowv> and its not working
[05:19] <quinton_> icemanv9, no, its not playing from 3 other speakers.
[05:19] <Nerous> Trevor - im new but i can try to help you
[05:19] <ipzim> !ntfs3g
[05:19] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:19] <TrevorRose> Thank you Nerous
[05:19] <Nerous> sure
[05:19] <vexati0n> Why can KDE apply anti-aliasing to the Calibri font, but GNOME is too dumb to do it?
[05:19] <Nerous> so whats up
[05:19] <IcemanV9> vwhydrowv: do you meant sudo /etc/init.d/apache start ?
[05:20] <TrevorRose> Ok, I've got a Hp Computer (Hewert Packard) and it comes with a Realtek High Definition card.
[05:20] <vwhydrowv> im trying to start httpd
[05:20] <vwhydrowv> does httpd start with apache by default because i didnt see it in the services
[05:20] <moidekar> sloanesky: two possible things to try: use rootnoverify instead of root, and remove the savedefault keyword and try?
[05:20] <angel> romain profiles in ubuntu?
[05:20] <TrevorRose> I've grabbed the linux one off their site, and I've gotten past the part where you install it o nthe terminal, but the rest of the directions cunfuse me.
[05:20] <sloanesky> alright
[05:20] <Nerous> ok
[05:20] <TrevorRose> Can someone help me get this working?
[05:20] <sloanesky> brbz
[05:21] <angel> lol, i meant roaming profiles. what is that called in linux?
[05:21] <TrevorRose> or you, if you know how to do it?
[05:21] <IcemanV9> quinton_: ah. never try more than 2 speakers ... is there anything from ubuntuforums.org on more than 2 speakers?
[05:21] <scguy318> TrevorRose: get what working?
[05:21] <Nerous> ok so you got the drivers for linux from the HP site or realtek?
[05:21] <TrevorRose> If you need I can give you my msn info. Because pm's aren't working since I'm not registered.
[05:21] <quinton_> icemanv9, nothing relating exactly to my topic.
[05:21] <smmagic> When I try to check if I have direct rendering I get this error, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". How do I fix it?
[05:21] <TrevorRose> From Realtek
[05:21] <vwhydrowv> does httpd start with apache?
[05:21] <Nerous> ok
[05:21] <vwhydrowv> or is it a separate command
[05:21] <ipzim> !captive
[05:21] <TrevorRose> Want me to give you the link?
[05:21] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[05:21] <Nerous> sure
[05:21] <ipzim> !captives
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about captives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Nerous> that would be great
[05:21] <TrevorRose> Alright, h-o one second.
[05:22] <borndeer> Hey , I want to learn GIMP and can someone recommend me some good books ?
[05:22] <Nerous> Ho?  where
[05:22] <Nerous> lol
[05:22] <soldats> borndeer, youtube or google is best bet
[05:22] <IcemanV9> quinton_: sorry, it's much that i know about sounds/speakers ... nickrud is good with sounds, but he signed off for the night (i believe).
[05:23] <soldats> crimsun is good with sounds
[05:23] <quinton_> icemanv9, hm, this probaply has a simple solution.
[05:23] <TrevorRose> Here is the link
[05:23] <TrevorRose> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3
[05:23] <TrevorRose> and I installed this one :    Linux driver (2.4 or 2.6)
[05:24] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey does any any one know how to disable xchat from caching the channel. so that when i open xchat it doesn't load all the text
[05:24] <aples> hi, i've installed festival in my system i can use it with *.txt files, how can i use festival in *.pdf or other files format?
[05:24] <sloanesky> it worked moidekar
[05:24] <sloanesky> thanks
[05:25] <borndeer> soldats , thanks .
[05:25] <interceptor> !ru
[05:25] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[05:25] <Nerous> ok TR, so you followed the install instructions inside?
[05:25] <TrevorRose> Well
[05:26] <soldats> borndeer, gimp takes time but you will easily be able to pick it up. ive been getting alot better but i still have a lot to learn
[05:26] <TrevorRose> I got to the part where it told me to extract onto my desktop and then to install using the terminal
[05:26] <Nerous> ok
[05:26] <moidekar> sloanesky: which one worked - rootnoverify?
[05:26] <Baudelaire> later..
[05:26] <aples> hi, i've installed festival in my system i can use it with *.txt files, how can i use festival in *.pdf or other files format?
[05:26] <Nerous> i am downloading it now
[05:26] <Nerous> well figure it out together
[05:26] <randomindex> is anyone here able to help me out with an update problem?
[05:26] <sigra> Someone give me some help.  I am networking 2 ubuntu 7.10 systems with nfs & samba installed setup. i can see both computers on both systems in the network browser and i can go to there directory but once there it says cannot display content on both..anyone know answer?
[05:26] <sloanesky> not sure, did both
[05:26] <sloanesky> but if I had to venture a guess id say that yeah it was rootnoverify
[05:26] <Nerous> or pull our hair out together...ok  lol
[05:26] <TrevorRose> and when I double click the install file it installs using the terminal, atleast thats the option I chose. Now idk what to do. Alright thanks. do you want to take this to msn or aim?
[05:26] <TrevorRose> Haha, that works to I guess. lol
[05:27] <moidekar> sloanesky: ok, tx for the feedback - something to file away in head :-)
[05:27] <Nerous> sure
[05:27] <TrevorRose> Ok, here is my msn
[05:27] <TrevorRose> america52nc@hotmail.com
[05:27] <TrevorRose> I'm on pidgen right now, so I'll accept when you add.
[05:27] <Edwardxp> can someone help me.. I dont know where my "open nautilus actions"
[05:28] <iN00DLE> o.O you should never give your email address out in a chat room, TrevorRose
[05:28] <sylpher> PurpZeY, the alternate text install CD worked without a hitch. Thanks again for the suggestion!
[05:28] <TrevorRose> I know
[05:28] <TrevorRose> but I did
[05:28] <TrevorRose> I never use the email just msn, it's fine with me.
[05:28] <TrevorRose> I can't pm unless I register, and I don't feel like reigistering ;p
[05:29] <sigra> Edwardxp right click on the main menu icon and choose edit menus...go to accessorys or admin and place check so it shows up on your list
[05:29] <PurpZeY> sylpher: Awesome.
[05:29] <sigra> Can someone that knows how nfs 2 ubuntu together help me..I am on last stage and i cannot get it work
[05:30] <IcemanV9> quinton_: this wiki might get you going - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[05:30] <sylpher> PurpZeY, now just to figure out how all this stuff works.
[05:30] <ollle> hi. do you know about the problem with Save / Save As dialogs that sometimes erases a file name you have typed when you go to another directory?
[05:30] <PurpZeY> sylpher: We're all still here...=)
[05:30] <randomindex> cans someone help me, I get a fail to fetch error when updating to 7.10 from 7.04. it's it my network or am I just doing something wrong?
[05:31] <ollle> i am trying to solve it. would like some help from some experienced GTK+ coder, cos this is tricky for me
[05:31] <ollle> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419737
[05:31] <th0r> sigra re your nfs problem, did you set and use an smbpasswd?
[05:33] <max> hey , for bash, where do I configure the key that completes the current command according to the command in history that matches it best?
[05:33] <soldats> normally its the tab key
[05:33] <sylpher> PurpZeY, hehe, well actually... One quick question. I selected my res to be 1440x900 in the install, but it is set at 1400x1050 which is a kind of strange aspect ratio for my monitor, and now it isn't even an option.
[05:34] <PurpZeY> !fixres | sylpher
[05:34] <ubotu> sylpher: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:35] <sigra> th0r I set smb passwords yes.  and rechecked...I used the samba control gui isntalled from package manager in ubuntu
[05:36] <vwhydrowv> is ntfs-3g on synaptic?
[05:36] <vwhydrowv> i cant find it
[05:36] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: You talking about NTFS read?
[05:37] <vwhydrowv> yes
[05:37] <vwhydrowv> search for that?
[05:37] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: I think it's called NFS or NTFS
[05:37] <PurpZeY> !NTFS | vwhydrowv
[05:37] <ubotu> vwhydrowv: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:38] <sigra> like now it open it showing its empty i sent a small text file over and it takes forever then says timed out
[05:39] <rohan> does anyone know if netbeans 6 .deb packages are available for ubuntu?
[05:40] <vwhydrowv> !NTFS-3g
[05:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:42] <youpi> Hello does someone know why webmin will be unsupported bu ubuntu?
[05:42] <jcg42> Is using the AMD64 version worth the extra hassle?
[05:43] <joeb3_> youpi, define unsupported..
[05:43] <niceubuntu> hello all.. how do i share internet between two computers?
[05:43] <PurpZeY> jcg42: I've never tried it, but I know some of the software doesn't cross over, so I wouldn't. . .but that is literally my own personal opinion
[05:43] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: Using a router?
[05:43] <rohan> jcg42: not really
[05:43] <rohan> jcg42: it's sometimes problematic to install stuff like flash, codecs etc
[05:44] <rohan> jcg42: though with nspluginswrapper and w64codecs it's not really a problem now
[05:44] <niceubuntu> PurpZeY: using a router to a computer w/2 ethernet connection to a laptop [ethernet]
[05:44] <rohan> jcg42: if you're inclined, go for 64bit. if it doesn't work well for you, switch back to 32
[05:44] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: Right, so you plug the two cables in and bang good to go
[05:44] <niceubuntu> router to pc and pc to laptop
[05:45] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: I see. So you want to proxy them. . .
[05:45] <niceubuntu> router to desktop and desktop to laptop
[05:45] <vwhydrowv> its a usb hd. its mounting it just fine, just not able to read whats on it
[05:45] <niceubuntu> the pc is internet is working but the laptop is connected but not to internet
[05:45] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: did you setup the proxy in nmapplet ?
[05:46] <niceubuntu> what do you mean?
[05:46] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: The panel network applet, if you want to do that you need to set the proxy
[05:47] <aples> how do i use festival to read PDF files?
[05:47] <youpi> joeb3_ i heard somethingabout webmin not following the spirit of ubuntu
[05:47] <niceubuntu> PurpZeY: it says roaming mode
[05:47] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: That'd be for wireless
[05:47] <asac413> hey i am having a problem with gedit plugins
[05:48] <joeb3_> youpi, webmin is a set of perl scripts, so it should always run on ubuntu with perl.
[05:48] <asac413> i need help installing the snap-open plugin for gedit
[05:48] <joeb3_> youpi, don't know about the spirit.
[05:48] <releod> Hey - does anyone know if there is a way to have AFP shares from Ubuntu Gutsy show up in OS X Leopard Finder automatically (before mounting)
[05:49] <youpi> me neighter
[05:49] <niceubuntu> PurpZeY: okay proxy congfiguration > direct/maual or auto?
[05:49] <asac413> anyone?
[05:49] <DWonderly> ok, this is strange... when I type glxinfo it tells me I'm using the mesa drivers but when I type fglrxinfo I've got ATI drivers... how do I fix this?
[05:50] <PurpZeY> niceubuntu: I am not positive I believe manual and then set the gateway as the computer with internet
[05:50] <asac413> i REALLY need help with installing a gedit plugin
[05:50] <di[a]fic> wrong button
[05:51] <asac413> i am trying to install the snap-open plugin for gedit, and when i try to enable it, it fades away
[05:51] <lewwy> hey guys
[05:51] <lewwy> how do i disable all the fancy transparency and stuff on the windows?
[05:52] <releod> lewwy: System > Preferences > Appearance
[05:52] <releod> Visual Effects Tab
[05:52] <Coded1> i'm having a problem with the latest live cd, I just bought a cheap nvidia xfx6200 256mb graphics card and when I try to load the cd once X loads my secondary display gives multicolored horizonal lines and my primary (DVI) goes black
[05:52] <sylpher> Well, that didn't work.
[05:52] <Coded1> when I press CTRL+ALT+BKSPACE it blanks for a seoncd but back to the same thing
[05:52] <portablejim> anybody know why dapper has a more recent version of Wine than gutsy or even hardy???
[05:54] <Eyemean> hi, how can i temporarily disable xgl so i can have Direct rendering?
[05:54] <niceubuntu> PurpZeY:
[05:55] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, are you running Ubuntu 7.10?
[05:56] <Eyemean> yes coastermaster
[05:56] <CoasterMaster> Run this in a terminal (without quotes) and then restart to disable XGL 'touch .config/xserver-xgl/disable'
[05:57] <CoasterMaster> When you want to re-enable, the command is 'rm .config/xserver-xgl/disable'
[05:57] <Eyemean> coastermaster, and would it be the same but with enable to enable it again?
[05:58] <jimmygoon> portablejim, are you using the official wine repos? you should they are the most up to date period
[05:58] <tom2002> i am the only user on my computer ..... only one user account ....... login screen at startup is annoying .... how do i get it to log in automatically ????
[05:58] <jimmygoon> tom2002 system->admin->Login Window Setting (look at the Security  tab)
[05:59] <Eyemean> thanx coastermaster, do i have to restart pc or just control alt del?
[05:59] <jimmygoon> Eyemean, backspace ;0
[05:59] <BloodyScum> Does anyone here play Star Wars Galaxies?  I can get wine to load SWG into the character selection screen, but it crashes before it renders the character appearance.. anyone have any ideas?
[05:59] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, I believe you just have to restart X (CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE)
[05:59] <Eyemean> ok cheers coastermaster
[05:59] <tom2002> thank you
[05:59] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, but make sure you have everything closed, becasue running that will immediately kill all programs
[06:00] <Eyemean> coastermaster, will it be a problem if i leave firefox open? as i have a few pages that i want it to restore to?
[06:00] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, Firefox includes a session restore so if Firefox gets killed (like by CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE), it will ask if you want to restore your session (windows and tabs) when you start it again.
[06:01] <jimmygoon> CoasterMaster, I wish it would do that even when I close intentionally
[06:01] <jimmygoon> CoasterMaster, I even force kill it just so I can  get them back :D
[06:02] <BloodyScum> did anyone say anything about SWG after i asked? i closed my irc app by accident
[06:02] <jimmygoon> BloodyScum, sorry, no
[06:02] <CoasterMaster> jimmygoon, in Firefox, you can go to Edit -> Preferences and on the Main tab, the very first option is "When Firefox starts: " Change that to "Show my windows and tabs from last time"
[06:02] <jimmygoon> CoasterMaster, :O
[06:02] <jimmygoon> CoasterMaster, that is awesome :)
[06:02] <remote_matrix> :q
[06:03] <CoasterMaster> jimmygoon, glad I could help :)
[06:03] <niceubuntu> PurpZeY: sorry i got dissed. which ip subnet & gateway do i use?
[06:04] <bulmer> what the heck is dissed ? is that english?
[06:04] <niceubuntu> disconnected :? lol!
[06:04] <niceubuntu> i was just wondering how to connect my laptop to my computer to share internet
[06:05] <Eyemean> coastermaster also thanx for that firefox restore option
[06:05] <bulmer> get a good cable, preferably a cat5
[06:05] <bulmer> then also get a hub or a switch
[06:06] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, no problem, enjoy!
[06:06] <Eyemean> coastermaster, i get the following: touch: cannot touch `.config/xserver-xgl/disable': No such file or directory
[06:06] <DWonderly> question. why does it give me diffrent vendors between glxinfo and fglrxinfo? fglrxinfo tells me it's ATI but glxinfo tells me mesa... Running something with OpenGL resaults in a crash and restart of my Xsession.
[06:06] <CentHOGG> are you guys cat5 or cat5e (gigabyte)?
[06:06] <niceubuntu> got dissed again
[06:06] <niceubuntu> lol :)
[06:06] <foug> Is there a way to make panels smaller than 23 pixels? Does gconf-editor have an option of doing so?
[06:07] <bulmer> cat5 is adequate
[06:07] <CentHOGG> kewl
[06:07] <niceubuntu> what do you mean?
[06:07] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, hmmm, try 'touch ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable' (again without quotes)
[06:07] <CentHOGG> bulmer: how fast is your network?
[06:07] <niceubuntu> do i need to enable static ip on network setting eth0?
[06:08] <bulmer> CentHOGG, 10Meg bits per sec
[06:08] <Eyemean> coastermaster: touch: cannot touch `/home/eyemean/.config/xserver-xgl/disable': No such file or directory
[06:08] <vwhydrowv> how can a create a virtual link to a hd with apache?
[06:08] <vwhydrowv> so i can get to my files from the internet
[06:08] <bulmer> CentHOGG, plenty fast for me
[06:08] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: Sure
[06:09] <vwhydrowv> ? how
[06:09] <CoasterMaster> again?  ok, open your home folder (Places -> Home Folder) and type /home/eyeman/.config/xserver-xgl into the address bar
[06:09] <Eyemean> coastermaster, im new to linux, is there a difference between xgl and fglx? i think thats right
[06:09] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: Put the link in your public_html folder
[06:09] <vwhydrowv> how though
[06:09] <bulmer> vwhydrowv, come again? what is virtual link to a hd?
[06:09] <vwhydrowv> im new to linux, how do i create a link
[06:09] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, XGL is a display server, FGLRX is a device driver for Radeon video cards
[06:09] <CentHOGG> bulmer: oh you mean 10base T?
[06:09] <vwhydrowv> ok, i got a usb drive, mounted and working on the linux os
[06:09] <bulmer> vwhydrowv, are you inventing these words?
[06:10] <vwhydrowv> bulmer no
[06:10] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: You want a symbolic link, so get into your public_html directory and do ln -s TARGET NAME
[06:10] <bulmer> CentHOGG, an equivalent yes
[06:10] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, once you get to that directory, right click in the window and chose Create File -> Empty File and then name it 'disable' (without quotes of course)
[06:10] <vwhydrowv> virtual link = creates a link to a drive but can be seen from the internet
[06:10] <vwhydrowv> thanks
[06:10] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: chmod the link 755
[06:10] <vwhydrowv> is that read only on the chmod right?
[06:11] <bulmer> vwhydrowv, you just coined a new meaning..
[06:11] <ste-foy> Can we talking aboth linux ??
[06:11] <vwhydrowv> bulmer, ok man whatever, anyways,,,that is read only correct cpudan?
[06:12] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: You have to chmod the destination directory to 755 (read-write-exec for owner, read and exec for everyone else)
[06:12] <bulmer> vwhydrowv, get the correct term so people dont get confused
[06:12] <vwhydrowv> ok great
[06:12] <vwhydrowv> bulmer im brand new to linux, virtual link is what u call it in windows
[06:12] <vwhydrowv> when you are using iis
[06:13] <Eyemean> coastermaster, i got to .config but xserver-xgl does not exist, i have the following; file:///home/eyemean/.config/user-dirs.locale
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/Trolltech.conf
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/tracker
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/Thunar
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/menus
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/gtk-2.0
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/deluge
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/compiz
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/autostart
[06:13] <bulmer> aws, no wonder..i have not used iis..gesh another lingua i have to relearn
[06:13] <Eyemean> file:///home/eyemean/.config/.rainlendar2
[06:13] <Eyemean> Wow so sorry
[06:13] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys! What is wrong with this IP "192.168.0.88" ??? 192.168.1.88 works all right, but not "0.88" !!! It works under Windows. Is it some kind of limitation in Linux ?
[06:13] <Eyemean> didnt realise it would past all that
[06:13] <Flannel> Gpalco: What are you trying to do with said IP?
[06:13] <bulmer> Gpalco, nothing wrong with the ending 0.88..how are you testing these?
[06:14] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, haha it's ok, but in the future you can use a Pastebin (look for the message from ubotu).  Feel free to create the folder xserver-xgl inside .config if you wish.
[06:14] <CoasterMaster> !pastebin | Eyemean
[06:14] <ubotu> Eyemean: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <youpi> #cgi-bin
[06:14] <detectiveinspekt> how can i tell if my network is 10Mbit or 100
[06:14] <detectiveinspekt> Mbit?
[06:15] <topicks> somone should make a /msg based pastebin that posts the message to a website and then notifies the channel of the URL. anyone know of something like that a;ready existing?
[06:15] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: Be careful with where you link to though --- the link's "target" needs global read permissions (at least)
[06:16] <topicks> s/a;ready/already/
[06:16] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: If you aren't careful, it would be possible (in theory) to link down to some stuff that you don't intend to
[06:16] <vwhydrowv> i want to pw protect it
[06:16] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: Use a .htaccess file
[06:16] <NineTeen67Comet> Could I use an NFS share as my /home/<user> directory? I got to thinking, I've got 7 computers running Ubuntu and I am always moving files from one to another (nfs usually) .. can I just use an nfs mount as my home?
[06:16] <vwhydrowv> ok
[06:17] <Cpudan80> vwhydrowv: I don't know how to write one --- google for it though, it's simple
[06:17] <vwhydrowv> im right with ya
[06:17] <vwhydrowv> already googling
[06:17] <coz_> hey guys... ubuntu gusty  cannot install gimp-svg   has this been fixed  i  depend on that plugin a great deal
[06:17] <vwhydrowv> :)
[06:18] <Gpalco> Flannel, bulmer, well, I have to connect to a network now where the netadmin tell you which IP to specify. They use IP in this range "192.168.0.XXX". When I set the given IP and try to ping my own computer or others I get this reply in terminal "NETWORK IS UNREACHABLE". Then I changed myIP and my frind's to 192.168.1.XXX and it strated to work, but not with IP with "0". Why???
[06:19] <zero88> how would i connect to a remote computer on another network?
[06:19] <RoshanK> hi i know that this isn't exactly ubuntu related, but can someone help me to set my sata drive as a slave after i just installed an ide drive with my os installed on it?
[06:19] <Flannel> Gpalco: Those two IPs are on different subnets most likely.  So its most likely that the admin was wrong.
[06:19] <RoshanK> zero88 ssh can help you do that
[06:19] <bulmer> Gpalco, you get network unreachable if you dont have a correct routing table
[06:19] <NineTeen67Comet> zero88: ssh -X <username>@other.ip.add.ress
[06:19] <soldats> Gpalco, just use 1 instead of 0
[06:19]  * NineTeen67Comet the -X lets you  fire up X applications (like gedit) over ssh
[06:20] <bulmer> zero88, connect for how long?
[06:20] <temp00> how can I use a path with spaces in fstab (to auto mount to /media/win partition ) ?
[06:20] <Eyemean> coastermaster, yep dat worked, but is it normal for 3d accelration to fail?
[06:20] <zero88> nineteen67comet roshank ok but isnt that ip behind a modem or router?
[06:20] <zero88> bulmer anylength
[06:20] <Eyemean> coastermaster, basically im trying to use cedega
[06:21] <bulmer> zero88, are these two computers in same subnet? can you elaborate on the network layout?
[06:21] <NineTeen67Comet> zero88: well, like I can access my server via its ip address or its URL .. internal or external doesn't matter as long as you have all the goodies (input)
[06:21] <zero88> nineteen67comet roshank becuase you can have the same adress for example 192.168.1.72 on two different networks.
[06:21] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, what kind of video card do you have?
[06:21] <panfist> what app would i use to transcode FLAC files to mp3?
[06:21] <matholum> hello everyone ^_^
[06:21] <Eyemean> coastermaster, radeon 9550
[06:21] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, and you have fglrx installed?
[06:21] <NineTeen67Comet> zero88: I use ports to route my machines. So at work I've got a 192.168.0.3 and here I've got a 192.168.0.3 .. each external address port 10003 points it to the specific computer ..
[06:22] <Eyemean> coastermaster, yes
[06:22] <CoasterMaster> panfist, LAME
[06:22] <zero88> nineteen67comet roshank ok like if i have my network at home, and want to connect to a computer in my cousins seperate network. how would i do that
[06:22] <bulmer> soldats that would not solve his issues if he does not have a route
[06:22] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, if you type in 'glxinfo | grep direct' what shows up/
[06:22] <DIL> !dhcp
[06:22] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[06:22] <NineTeen67Comet> zero88: Also, I just ssh into my server, then ssh throughout my network.
[06:22] <Eyemean> coastermaster direct rendering: Yes
[06:22] <zero88> NineTeen67Comet im still a litle confused
[06:23] <bulmer> zero88, you have to explain what devices are in between yours and your cousins, if there are any firewalls in between, the corresponding ip addresses at both ends..etc
[06:23] <Gpalco> Flannel, bulmer, soldats, even if I set my own IP to 192.168.1.88 and try to ping 192.168.0.115 (that is the computer with proxy and it's IP cannot be changed) it replys: Network is unreachable, but still works fine with my frind's 192.168.1.50!! I want to use Ubuntu even there. hey wouldn't change their settings. Is there a way ???
[06:23] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, so then you have 3D acceleration enabled now
[06:23] <panfist> coastermaster i know how to use LAME front ends in windows, but is there an example of a command line string i could do to transcode a list/directory of FLAC files to mp3 files?\
[06:23] <zero88> bulmer ya, becuase there is no direct connection from my network to his. i know im going through a ton of other computers
[06:23] <CoasterMaster> panfist, you can script it (which is the easiest way I know how).  It's just LAME <filename> I believe, but I'm not too sure on how to fine tune the qualities
[06:23] <bulmer> Gpalco, the missing info is the route to the other computer..do this..  route -n   from the side you are pinging from and paste result so
[06:24] <panfist> coastermaster thanks
[06:24] <Eyemean> coastermaster, but wen i run cedega test direct rendering passes, but 3d acceleration faIls
[06:24] <temp00> [] how can I use a path with spaces in fstab (to auto mount to /media/win partition ) ?
[06:24] <Nasari> sorry, I have a poor question: How does one open or close a port?
[06:24] <matholum> hopefully one of you can help me out.... i have a separate partition for files and i only have read access for some of the folders... i read some tutorials and can't get anywhere, but i can't change the permission over even as root
[06:24] <bulmer> zero88, explain what you have on your side, all the equipment and how are they connected?
[06:24] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, hmmm. I'm not sure then what the problem is....you can check out the channel #cedega and they might be able to help)
[06:25] <Eyemean> k cheers coastermaster
[06:25] <zero88> bulmer well i have a wireless and wired router. im wired to the router from my laptop
[06:25] <vwhydrowv> ln -s   didnt work
[06:25] <temp00> :(
[06:25] <vwhydrowv> i tried a couple different ways
[06:26] <bulmer> zero88, your laptop has both wireless and wired nic cards?  both are connected to same router?
[06:26] <Nasari> Ain't most ports closed by default? - If so how can open one
[06:26] <karsten> Does Ubuntu still support PPC, and if so where are the current d/l'able install disks?  Attempting install on an iBook G4
[06:26] <vwhydrowv> sudo ln -s /var/www media/Drobo
[06:26] <dr_willis> !ppc
[06:26] <zero88> bulmer yes it has both, but i am only connected by wired
[06:26] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:26] <Flannel> Nasari: You don't really open them, you just have something listen/connect to them
[06:26] <dr_willis> temp00:  spaces in fstab/mountpoiints can be a real real real pain.. use UnderStores if you want a more readable mountpoint
[06:27] <bulmer> zero88, okay, does your router have a firewall active? or your laptop have a firewall active? what is the ip address of your wired nic card now?
[06:27] <onats> what application should i install to get something similar to mac osx dashboard?
[06:27] <zero88> bulmer i know my routers ip is 192.168.1.254 and that is pretty much standard for any router. and inside every network it gives a certain ip range, just like everyone elses router. so how do i connect to my another network
[06:27] <temp00> dr_willis, so not possible/recommended ?
[06:27] <matholum> any idea on changing the permissions on the folders?
[06:27] <zero88> bulmer yes and yes
[06:27] <dr_willis> temp00:  its can cause some very bad problems at timnes.. so i advise getting away from spaces  :)
[06:27] <zero88> bulmer 192.168.1.78
[06:27] <bulmer> Nasari, they only get opened if you have a service being served at those ports
[06:27] <temp00> oktanouc, thanks :)
[06:27] <temp00> thanks*
[06:28] <angel> for a new install what must i doso that ubuntu looks at my 2 160gb satas as 1 320gb?
[06:28] <DIL> !dhcp
[06:28] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[06:28] <Gpalco> bulmer, I can only connect to internet when at home (due to the mentioned issue) and cannot give those results right now. I can paste what I get when connected at home. Buthere at home I use a small router with dhcp, so just rely on NM and never have a problem. Would that info still help?
[06:28] <Nasari> so it's automatic?
[06:28] <bulmer> zero88, lets take this step by step, from your laptop now, can you ping www.yahoo.com ?
[06:29] <angel> no body?
[06:29] <Flannel> Nasari: yes
[06:29] <zero88> bulmer yes
[06:29] <onats> angel, if your motherboard supports it, try to raid 0 your HDDs
[06:29] <Nasari> Ok, thanks
[06:29] <bulmer> Gpalco, without knowing your route -n results, its difficult to tell if you have a correct route path to destination
[06:29] <dr_willis> of course dont ya want the disks raided befor you install?
[06:29] <John64> How do i make it so only one user can sudo?
[06:30] <bulmer> zero88, what is the ip address of the device you are attempting to connect to?
[06:30] <angel> onats: it does not, so i must use raid for this to work? can i use ubuntu software to achieve this?
[06:30] <bulmer> John64, only have one member on that admin group  see /etc/group
[06:30] <zero88> bulmer 209.131.36.158, oh you mean in the other network?
[06:30] <Flannel> John64: don't give anyone else admin powers (what bulmer said, except you can also do it in users and groups)
[06:31] <DIL> !lv,
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lv, - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <bulmer> zero88, this 209.131.36.158  is the router of your cousin right?
[06:31] <DIL> !lvm
[06:31] <dr_willis> !raig
[06:31] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <Gpalco> bulmer, here is the route -n results of my currecnt connection (at home, IP given by a DHCP server):: mine@uno-laptop:~$ route -n
[06:31] <Gpalco> Kernel IP routing table
[06:31] <Gpalco> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[06:31] <Gpalco> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[06:31] <Gpalco> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[06:31] <Gpalco> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[06:31] <Gpalco> mine@uno-laptop:~$
[06:31] <Gpalco> mine@uno-laptop:~$
[06:31] <bulmer> Gpalco dont paste here..use pastebin
[06:32] <coz_> any news on gimp-svg
[06:32] <zero88> bulmer no sorry that was the ip of yahoo. but i was giving an example of trying to connect to a computer on my cousins network. but how would i get the ip of his router?
[06:32] <Kalamansi> hello.. i have 4 NICs.. 1 Nic is built-in already when i bought a mobo(gigabyte 946). 2 Nic is RealTek and the 3&4 Ni thc are ADMtek - Cnet.. Pc1 Server ubuntu 7.10 with x window is already connected. but pc2 dont internet...Firestarter says Failed to start firewall the device eth0 is not ready... please help..thanks
[06:32] <Eyemean> coastermaster, xgl enable fine ur way, nice one.  i disable xgl 3d acceleration fails, i enable xgl and direct redndering fails, lol.  Thanx for ur help anyways
[06:32] <Gpalco> bulmer, sorry. never heard. will try to learn how to useit
[06:32] <bulmer> Gpalco, that looks okay for now, the 192.168.0.x is in same vicinity as your computer is?
[06:32] <nickrud> !pastebin | Gpalco
[06:32] <ubotu> Gpalco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:33] <zero88> gpalco !pastebin
[06:33] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, yeah, fglrx doesn't support direct rendering when XGL is used
[06:33] <onats> !raid0
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raid0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <John64> is there a command i can run to make sure someone can't sudo from their account, cause when i am in an account that isn't in the admin accont i can still sudo in it, but i don't know if it does anything
[06:33] <onats> angel, what's the brand/make of your motherboard?
[06:33] <aunes> hey guys. I have 7.10 server. I want to forward my xsession but when I connect with putty (with X11 Forwarding turned on) the $DISPLAY variable isn't set. How can I correct this?
[06:34] <Eyemean> coastermaster, yeah i wish i knew nvidea was the prefereed video card for linux b4 i bought this crappy radeon, lol
[06:34] <bulmer> zero88, let him join irc right now like we are in #ubuntu and then you can /dns hisnick to find out his router's ip address
[06:34] <matholum> can anyone help me change permissions of a folder and the contents when it doesn't work as root?
[06:34] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, hahah I know what you mean.  I'm stuch with a Radeon as well
[06:34] <ethan961_> john64:remove them from /etc/sudoers
[06:34] <DIL> John64, you will have to put password if you sudo
[06:34] <topicks> i have an nvidia but its like 20 years old
[06:34] <zero88> bulmer ic, so each router has an internal ip, 192.168.1.254 and an external one?
[06:35] <Flannel> John64: remove them from the admin group
[06:35] <topicks> s/20/10/
[06:35] <bulmer> zero88, possibly, it depends on how he configured his modem/router at his end
[06:35] <John64> they are not in the admin group, but it doesn't give errors if i run a command with sudo
[06:35] <John64> from their account
[06:35] <Eyemean> coastermaster, damn dats harsh. my problem was that i was looking for a dual head vga card for the 2 screens at the time, wats ur excuse, lol
[06:36] <CoasterMaster> Eyemean, the laptop I have came that way ;)
[06:36] <bulmer> zero88, btw do not assume all routers have .254 ip address..some do not
[06:36] <Eyemean> coastermaster, lol, i shot myself in the foot there.
[06:36] <zero88> bulmer ok, i just /dns my own name, and it gave me back a ip. is that ip directly linked to me and me only, or is that a computer i connect to to get to the internet
[06:37] <DIL> John64, no password?
[06:37] <onats> is it possible to have different desktop backgrounds on the different desktops?
[06:37] <bulmer> zero88, thats the ip assigned to you by your ISP, and that is considered your external ip address
[06:37] <John64> DIL: say i have jhford (me, admin) and nino.  when i am in nino's account i can run sudo ... and it asks for nino's password then runs the comman
[06:38] <zero88> bulmer ok ic
[06:38] <angel> onats: dunno. i have a dell optiplex 745. should there be a "RAID --> On" seeting in the bios?
[06:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi, you have all these 4 nics? connected to same router?
[06:38] <Gpalco> bulmer, thank you very much for giviing your time to deal with this! "bulmer: Gpalco, that looks okay for now, the 192.168.0.x is in same vicinity as your computer is?" Is "vicinity" used as a technical term? Or you are asking how far I live from that office where I am strugling with stupid network setup?
[06:38] <Gpalco> bulmer, English isnotmy 1st lang
[06:39] <zero88> bulmer is that ip adress scanable?
[06:39] <aunes> hey guys. I have 7.10 server. I want to forward my xsession but when I connect with putty (with X11 Forwarding turned on) the $DISPLAY variable isn't set. How can I correct this?
[06:39] <bulmer> Gpalco, the reason i asked about vicinity as in closeness.. you can be attempting to ping a 192.168.0.x but if its on the other end of the world and you dont have path to it, it will not work
[06:40] <bulmer> zero88, most likely yes
[06:40] <nickrud> aunes, a silly question maybe, but do you have an x server installed on your server?
[06:40] <DIL> John64, is pw same as admin??
[06:41] <onats> angel, you can do a software raid on ubuntu
[06:41] <zero88> bulmer ok, is there any other way of getting the ip other then /dns
[06:41] <angel> onats: what is the name of the package i need to install to do this? or perhaps the name of the app so i can google it for research
[06:41] <bulmer> Gpalco, what I really meant is if the other computer is in the same building...am trying to figure out if you have to get out of the building to get to the other end or its within the same building
[06:41] <aunes> nickrud: Yes. If I manually set the $DISPLAY variable, I can run xeyes and gvim
[06:41] <John64> DIL: no
[06:41] <Gpalco> bulmer, oh! sorry. I understand now. It is very close. Once I boot into Windows (forgive me that fault, but is the only option yet) it works fine, even with XXX.XXX.0.XXX
[06:42] <John64> theirs is different to mine
[06:42] <zero88> bulmer sorry if it sounds like im asking the same question over in different variations
[06:42] <bulmer> zero88, yes
[06:42] <hoan> chao moi nguoi
[06:42] <onats> angel, i havent had experience with it, try googling "ubuntu software raid"
[06:42] <aunes> nickrud, but when I ssh in, `echo $DISPLAY` returns a blank line (null)
[06:42] <matholum> compiz is default on 7.10, right? where can i find logon screens for it... or does the fact that it is compiz not matter for that... either way, i would like to get rid of the human/circles theme ^_^
[06:42] <nickrud> aunes, ok, I don't know much about X over ssh, I've seen others try without the server installed
[06:43] <aunes> nickrud, I don't know what's up. the guys in ##linux seem to think its an ubuntu issue. It works fine at work w/ Vista + VMWare Player instead of XP + VMWare Server (which I have here at home)
[06:43] <bulmer> Gpalco, is there a network admin support that manages which network are allowed to reach each other ?
[06:43] <vwhydrowv> i just setup samba but my drive that i shared is not getting noticed by my xp machines, i made sure the workgroups are the same, any ideas?
[06:44] <nickrud> aunes, I don't have putty installed (ubuntu :) but are the settings the same on both machines?
[06:44] <aunes> nickrud, from what I can tell, yes.
[06:44] <aunes> nickrud, the issue is that putty doesn't seem to be passing the proper $DISPLAY value along with the connection.
[06:44] <hoan> kagsvob
[06:44] <ollle> i did it! i found the cause of the bug in Save (Save As) dialogs that erased the user-written file name on folder change!
[06:44] <bulmer> zero88, did you get your cousins (remote end) ip address yet?
[06:44] <nickrud> aunes, then I'd just be talking from the wrong orifice if I tried to troubleshoot much further
[06:45] <temp00> will automounting (with fstab) slow down the boot ? I have 3 partitions (2 ntfs/1 fat32)
[06:45] <ollle> one of the two blocking bugs in gtk+
[06:45] <CentHOGG> vwhydrowv: hi, can you browse the window drives from linux?
[06:45] <nickrud> ollle, you mean the fix?
[06:45] <zero88> bulmer yes
[06:45] <bulmer> zero88, now can you ping that ip address?
[06:45] <zero88> bulmer i ran nmap on it
[06:46] <zero88> bulmer says its not up
[06:46] <ollle> nickrud: no fix yet, i have to come back to my usual computer and modify gtk and test-link
[06:46] <bulmer> zero88, why are you using nmap?
[06:46] <ollle> i just know what the problem is
[06:46] <nickrud> ollle, if you've found the cause, the fix can't be far behind. I've always hated that, so I'll say thanks in advance
[06:46] <bulmer> zero88, what are your intentions?
[06:46] <zero88> bulmer but pinging says its up. for security purposes
[06:46] <bulmer> zero88, his or yours?
[06:47] <ollle> no problem! i enjoyed this little hacking
[06:47] <zero88> bulmer making sure he doesnt have anything running that shouldnt be
[06:47] <Gpalco> bulmer, Network admin avoids even talking about it. Plus I cannot insist too much so they don't get and impresion it is theLinux that iscausing the problem. My idea was to promote Ubuntu. I always avoid using "0" in IPs (just in case). But is there generally a limitation on using it in IPs ???
[06:47] <zero88> bulmer im actually pinging and nmapping my ip
[06:47] <temp00> when I try to rename my partitions (in "Computer"), it always says "sorry, the item could not be renamed"
[06:47] <ollle> nikrud: by the way, there seems to be more that one related problem. i fixed the only bug that i could reproduce with feisty
[06:48] <zero88> bulmer im trying to check my own network from the outside. thats why im asking asll these questions
[06:48] <ollle> *nickrud
[06:48] <bulmer> Gpalco, no limitation I know of other than not being in the range.. the network people sets the policy on which network you can get to and can not, for example forbid you in getting to accounting network per say
[06:48] <nickrud> ollle, hrm. I'm on gutsy so I think you need to work harder for me ;P
[06:49] <mrynit> anyone have a dell 1420n?
[06:49] <ollle> but once a fix is contributed it will appear in gutsy as well of course
[06:49] <ollle> gutsy is 7.10 , right?
[06:49] <nickrud> yes
[06:49] <bulmer> Gpalco the network admin could possibly have a filter preventing you to reach the 192.168.0.x subnet..hard to tell other than you cant get there
[06:50] <temp00> anyone?
[06:50] <ollle> actually, im astonished a real gtk+ coder didnt find it before me
[06:50] <mrynit> i was wondering if the glossy screen on the 1420n is worth getting
[06:50] <|ns|nR8> in windows temp00 ?
[06:50] <zero88> bulmer why would using nmap on my ip adress say its not up
[06:50] <ollle> the problem is just what i expected it to be :/
[06:50] <vwhydrowv> i just setup samba but my drive that i shared is not getting noticed by my xp machines, i made sure the workgroups are the same, any ideas?
[06:50] <temp00> |ns|nR8, in ubuntu 7.10
[06:50] <bulmer> Gpalco however you said if you were using windows, what is the limitations if any?
[06:50] <johnficca> hi what is the command to clear out the system ram on ubuntu?
[06:51] <bulmer> zero88, you answered me yes and yes earlier...
[06:51] <ollle> you want me explain the bug?   :p dont think so, right?
[06:51] <bulmer> johnficca, clear out? what do you mean?
[06:51] <ollle> if you are interested : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419737
[06:51] <nickrud> ollle, not really :) I pretty much quit programming in the late 80's , never really learned event driven stuff
[06:52] <ninjabob7> is there any way for cups to use an lpd network printer on port 9103?
[06:52] <ninjabob7> i can't find any way to change the port
[06:52] <ollle> well, im a newbie on that as  well. that's why im surprised im the one who succeeded
[06:52] <ollle> nickrud
[06:52] <TTilus> ninjabob7: change the port with iptables, just portforward  ;)
[06:52] <johnficca> bulmer: reset
[06:53] <bulmer> johnficca, and the purpose is?  btw the only way i knew of is reboot, that sure clears the ram and resets it
[06:53] <TTilus> ninjabob7: ...and that is really an ugly hack, afaik it could be possible to set the port ... dunno how to do it though
[06:54] <ninjabob7> can't find anything in cups or ubuntu docs
[06:54] <vwhydrowv> did anyone respond to my post, i looked away and wow, typing in this room went fast
[06:55] <TTilus> ninjabob7: search for cups doc packages, go google, see if there's #cups or like, whatelse...
[06:56] <Ademan> !ask | travis
[06:56] <ubotu> travis: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:56] <neeto> I am trying to install azureus using a script, but when I try to start the script, it says bash: Permission denied, even if I am root.
[06:57] <Ademan> neeto: are you sure executable permissions are set?
[06:57] <neeto> nope, how do I do that?
[06:57] <LiraNuna> neeto, chmod +x scriptFile
[06:57] <LiraNuna> ./scriptFile
[06:57] <Ademan> right click on the file and hit properties
[06:57] <IcemanV9> !samba | vwhydrowv
[06:57] <ubotu> vwhydrowv: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[06:57] <Ademan> under the permissions tab there's a checkbox for executable permissions
[06:58] <neeto> ok thanks
[06:58] <Ashex> quick question. What's the application for ssh protection?
[06:58] <ninjabob7> erm, how would I do the port forward? the print server has dynamic IP
[06:59] <Ademan> Ashex: protection?
[06:59] <Ashex> Ademan, lemme rephrase
[06:59] <travis> I just got feisty installed, however for some reason firefox crashes as soon as I run it. When I run it from command line it says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Anyone got any ideas on how to fix it?
[06:59] <Ashex> Just noticed I'm being brute-forced.
[06:59] <Ashex> well, at least they're attempting to
[06:59] <Ademan> Ashex: by the way there's an #openssh channel
[06:59] <Flannel> Ashex: check out DenyHosts
[07:00] <Ashex> Ah, that's the package I was thinking of
[07:00] <Ashex> I blanked on the name
[07:00] <ryanpg> hi, I want to burn a livecd to test a laptop in the store... it's an AMD 64 processor, but for the sake of posible testing on other platforms, can I burn the x86 CD image and run it on the AMD64?
[07:00] <ethan961> ya
[07:01] <Gpalco> bulmer, Windows made it possible to make such etwork seups in the past, which were absolutely unusable, and neverwarned of it. Linux is known to be followng the rules, so I thought may be there was a requirement on avoiding this digit in IPs, which Windows simply ignored? I could easily believe that. That's why I made this guess. That is actually the only guess I could possibly make. Ant that is why I am here. To understand if there is a chance that the net
[07:01] <ryanpg> eth01, was that "ya" for me?
[07:01] <ryanpg> err
[07:01] <ethan961> ryanpg:absolutely
[07:01] <ryanpg> ethan961, thanks :)
[07:01] <Flannel> Gpalco: no, there are no rules against setups certain ways or not.  It all depends on how the admin has the network setup, can be completely (more or less) arbitrary
[07:02] <vexati0n> how can i change the color of the screen while it's loading the desktop?
[07:02] <vexati0n> puke orange isn't my favorite color ...
[07:03] <ethan961> LOL or dog crap brown
[07:03] <bulmer> Gpalco, there are tools like traceroute you can use to trace the route to the destination
[07:03] <Kalamansi> bulmer : i dont have router. this is my output.. modem internet --> NIC1 (built-in nic of my mobo) server ubuntu pc1 --->NIC2 Realtek connected to ---> switch ---> pc2 xp
[07:03] <vwhydrowv> how do you set it up so that someone can ssh into your computer?
[07:04] <ompaul> NOTICE - A LITTLE SCROLLING WILL NOW TAKE PLACE -- doing some channel house keeping
[07:04] <ruru> anyone know why ubuntu would all sudden stop accepting dhcp from router?
[07:04] <bulmer> Kalamansi, and I thought you said you have 4 nics on your server? did I read you wrongly?
[07:05] <Ashex> This is kinda lame
[07:05] <Ashex> I was working on setting up tomboy to synch with my home computer via ssh
[07:05] <Ashex> Apparently someone was listening. starting getting attempts right after
[07:05] <Ademan> vwhydrowv: you should just be able to install the openssh package and then add the users like normal to your computer (with appropriate permissions of course)
[07:05] <ruru> what do you do when your computer connects but does not establish a ip number?
[07:05] <bulmer> ruru, because the lease is still very valid
[07:06] <bulmer> ruru what do you mean by connect and not establish an ip number?
[07:06] <Ademan> ruru: i suppose the dhcpd process could have died/been killed
[07:06] <ruru> the icon that shows on task bar shows connect
[07:07] <Kalamansi> bulmer : yes four nics. 2 is already plug in the slot. no cables attached yet
[07:07] <ollle> !you owns | ollle
[07:07] <ruru> searchs for network on taskbar then shows computers  but when i go info no ip or any information
[07:07] <bulmer> Kalamansi, and what do you intend to accomplish now
[07:07] <bulmer> ?
[07:08] <ruru> when i check the router only this computer has a lease
[07:08] <Thai> i
[07:08] <Kalamansi> i want pc2 to have internet bulmer... but when i connect pc2 to the switch still no internet (pc2)
[07:08] <teethdood> has kmldonkey been fixed yet?
[07:08] <ruru> even if i reboot other one will not eastablish a ip from router
[07:08] <Kalamansi> bulmer : pc 1 server ubuntu have internet (which is im using it now) --- modem -- > server  ubuntu > switch > pc2
[07:09] <bulmer> Kalamansi, okay lets start with basic troubleshooting.. can pc2 ping your pc1 Nic2?
[07:09] <ompaul> ruru, seems to me your router is only giving out one ip. is that correct?
[07:09] <Kalamansi> bulmer : status of pc2 is limited or no connectivity. i try to restart the pc2 too..still no internet
[07:09] <bulmer> Kalamansi, okay lets start with basic troubleshooting.. can pc2 ping your pc1 Nic2?
[07:10] <Kalamansi> bulmer : ok sec. how to get the ip of pc1 nic2? i try ifconfig tho
[07:10] <ruru> i have it set for range 1-50 been using it..been working all night on building nfs samba local network andit just stop from router on one of my systems
[07:11] <foug> how can i see my PC hardware info through the GUI?
[07:11] <Kalamansi> bulmer : http://pastebin.com/m46b5521e
[07:11] <bulmer> Kalamansi, okay lets get down to even more basic,  on your server aka pc1  ifconfig and tell me which ip address is assigned to NIC2
[07:11] <ollle> i solved the major bug, i solved the major bug! i am so great, you shall all obey my will
[07:12] <Draynor> Can anyone help me? When I insert my Dvd-r, I get a error: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[07:12] <bulmer> Kalamansi, is that for your server?
[07:12] <ruru> i have dhcp server set to reserve ip forever
[07:12] <Kalamansi> bulmer : yes.
[07:12] <Draynor> Can anyone help me? When I insert my Dvd-r, I get a error: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[07:12] <Kalamansi> bulmer : ifconfig of my servert
[07:13] <Kalamansi> bulmer : -t .. server
[07:13] <soldats> ollle, make a report instead of self glorifying yourself here
[07:13] <bulmer> Kalamansi, do you notice anything un-usual on that result you pasted?
[07:13] <DIL> lol
[07:13] <soldats> on the ubuntu bug site
[07:13] <ollle> soldats: take it easy! you dont have to laugh, you dont have to get mad at me either
[07:13] <Kevin`> how can i, or can i, remove the kernel and kernel module packages safely? i'm using a custom kernel for this device so they serve no purpose except to cause an error when upgrading
[07:13] <Kalamansi> bulmer : yes. the ip?
[07:13] <ollle> i have posted on bugzilla
[07:13] <bulmer> Kalamansi, good call..
[07:13] <ollle> i will commit a fix
[07:14] <Draynor> Can anyone help me? When I insert my Dvd-r, I get a error: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'. PLEASE HELP ME!
[07:14] <ompaul> ruru, on the box that is not getting ip do this, sudo dhclient - it should catch it again - have a look at your wiring it is not normal behaviour for your o/s to drop it is however usual if anything touches the cable at all maybe loose connection
[07:14] <Kalamansi> bulmer : the eth1 inet ip i guess
[07:14] <bulmer> Kalamansi,  do you know which of the four is connected to your modem?
[07:14] <Draynor> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP? :S
[07:14] <Draynor> Can anyone help me? When I insert my Dvd-r, I get a error: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[07:14] <Kalamansi> bulmer : eth2 and eth3?
[07:14] <ompaul> !repeat | Draynor
[07:14] <ubotu> Draynor: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:15] <Kalamansi> bulmer : not sure tho. its realtek and 2 cnet
[07:15] <Malachi> How can I tell Firestarter to allow an entire network?
[07:15] <ollle> buy soldats and nickrud and the rest of you, i will try to get a few hours of sleep
[07:15] <Malachi> I want my entire 192.168.1.x to be allowed.
[07:15] <bulmer> Kalamansi, wait a minute, you have to be sure now, again, which of the 4 is connected to the modem?
[07:15] <Kevin`> Draynor where do you see the error, what filesystem is on the dvd, what did you try to mount it as, etc.
[07:15] <Draynor> sorry.. i thought perhaps nobody saw it :(
[07:15] <Draynor> I downloaded WoW and I have all the installation files on it
[07:16] <Draynor> I burnt it with Vista
[07:16] <Kevin`> iso or just the files
[07:16] <th0r> Malachi don't know about firestarter, but in iptables you would refer to the net as 192.168.1.0/24
[07:16] <bulmer> Kalamansi if you are not sure, do this, shutdown your server, remove the extraneous nic cards, so it is easy to figure out which is which
[07:16] <Malachi> th0r: That's what I need, thanks.
[07:16] <ompaul> !wow | Draynor
[07:16] <ubotu> Draynor: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:16] <Kalamansi> bulmer : the marvell gigabyte built-in nic. ok ill reboot
[07:17] <oddalot> !compiz
[07:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:17] <Kevin`> Draynor did you verify it after you wrote it? try mounting it with iso9660 or udf, whichever you aren't trying now
[07:17] <Draynor> It's not in Iso, it's like Autorun.exe, the 4 huge installation files and a bit other stuff. It's not the game's problem, it's something with UDF
[07:17] <bulmer> Kalamansi hurry up..cinderella is awaiting midnight..hehe
[07:18] <ruru> no work lease in persistant database -sleeping
[07:18] <ruru> when i run dhclient that is message gives me
[07:18] <Draynor> my fstab looks like this: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:18] <bulmer> ruru, how many of your nic is connected to same router?
[07:18] <ompaul> ruru, your network card is now suspect, as is your wiring and the port you are plugged into on the router
[07:18] <DIL> can cd read dvd?
[07:19] <Kevin`> DIL no
[07:19] <bulmer> DIL no
[07:19] <ruru> 2 nics one in each computer
[07:19] <th0r> Draynor can you use both udf and iso9660 as mount options? are they not mutually exclusive?
[07:19] <ompaul> ruru, try restarting the router in case it got some kind of brain outage
[07:19] <DIL> Xactly
[07:19] <ruru> i restarted it 3 times
[07:19] <Draynor> Umm can you provide me instructions how to use them? Im kind of new with this whole mounting thing
[07:19] <ruru> and reboot the computer that is down twice
[07:19] <Kevin`> Draynor grep cd /proc/mounts
[07:19] <bulmer> ruru oh, i thought you only had one computer..one gets an ip address and the other pc does not? both are ethernet?
[07:19] <ompaul> ruru, however I have replaced a network card in the last 48 hours for that reason - I had other network issues all of which were described above
[07:20] <Kevin`> Draynor it really should just have worked automatically unless you used very strange options making the dvd, I suspect it could be corrupted
[07:20] <ruru> yes
[07:20] <th0r> Draynor I don't think you should have the cd/dvd in fstab. hald will detect the disk format and mount the drive properly
[07:21] <Kevin`> th0r it's in mine
[07:21] <Draynor> ok i did that and I KNOW its not corrupted because it worked on my friend's computer who used the same disc to install the game
[07:21] <ruru> i down it drop nic in and reboot see what happens.
[07:21] <Draynor> So what do u suggest I do?
[07:21] <Kevin`> Draynor the purpose of that command was informational. what was the result
[07:21] <th0r> Draynor I have a cd/dvd rw and it doesn't show up in my fstab
[07:22] <Draynor> i typed 'grep cd /proc/mounts' in command but it does nothing
[07:22] <Kevin`> ok
[07:22] <Kevin`> Draynor mount -t udf /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:22] <travis>  I just got feisty installed, however for some reason firefox crashes as soon as I run it. When I run it from command line it says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". Has anyone seen this before or have any suggestions on how to deal with it?
[07:23] <Draynor> i get this error when i do that: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:23] <Draynor> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[07:23] <Draynor>        missing codepage or other error
[07:23] <Draynor>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:23] <Draynor>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:23] <Kevin`> Draynor mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:23] <vwhydrowv> im trying to access my smb shared directory from windows and it keeps prompting me to put in the username and password, i know its correct, any suggestions?
[07:23] <Draynor> EXACT same result
[07:23] <Draynor> same error
[07:23] <Kevin`> Draynor dmesg|tail
[07:23] <Kevin`> ...or so
[07:24] <Kevin`> =p
[07:24] <th0r> travis either firefox didn't install correctly, or one of its support libraries didn't. first step would be to uninstall and then reinstall firefox
[07:24] <ruru> new ubuntu so hope it auto detects this new nic put in
[07:24] <Draynor> [27493.213304] ACPI Exception (evgpe-0576): AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating GPE method [_L1C] [20060707]
[07:24] <Draynor> [27625.065405] ACPI Error (psargs-0355): [\_TZ_.THRM] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND
[07:24] <Draynor> [27625.065418] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_GPE._L1C] (Node de33639c), AE_NOT_FOUND
[07:24] <Draynor> [27625.065464] ACPI Exception (evgpe-0576): AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating GPE method [_L1C] [20060707]
[07:24] <Draynor> [27716.401914] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[07:24] <Draynor> [27803.835601] ACPI Error (psargs-0355): [\_TZ_.THRM] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND
[07:24] <Draynor> [27803.835615] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_GPE._L1C] (Node de33639c), AE_NOT_FOUND
[07:24] <Draynor> [27803.835688] ACPI Exception (evgpe-0576): AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating GPE method [_L1C] [20060707]
[07:24] <Draynor> [27826.349268] UDF-fs: No fileset found
[07:24] <Draynor> [27868.928377] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[07:24] <bulmer> !pastebin |Draynor
[07:24] <ubotu> Draynor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <th0r> Draynor that looks like a bad disk
[07:24] <travis> th0r okay i will try that
[07:25] <ompaul> someone give him !enter
[07:25]  * ompaul goes to try and make some code work
[07:25] <vwhydrowv> can no-one see my questions???
[07:25] <bulmer> !enter | Draynor
[07:25] <ubotu> Draynor: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:25] <soldats> more like !paste
[07:26] <bulmer> vwhydrowv, not  when we get flooded
[07:26] <Kevin`> Draynor file -s /dev/scd0
[07:26] <ruru> bah put new nic in and it locks up at the login screen
[07:26] <Draynor> /dev/scd0: ERROR: cannot read `/dev/scd0' (Input/output error)
[07:26] <vwhydrowv> ok, im trying to log into my samba share, it keeps prompting me for a username and password which i know is correct, any suggestions?
[07:27] <Kevin`> Draynor are you sure that drive can read dvds?
[07:27] <mari> is the tuxfamily.org server down?
[07:27] <Draynor> Yes, I've burnt and read Dvd-Rw's and Dvd-R's from it many times
[07:27] <Kevin`> Draynor eject the cd and put it back in
[07:27] <Kevin`> then do the same command again
[07:28] <vwhydrowv> im trying to access my smb shared directory from windows and it keeps prompting me to put in the username and password, i know its correct, any suggestions?
[07:28] <th0r> vwhydrowv did you define smbpasswd...it can be the same as your user passwd, but you need to define it with the 'smbpasswd' command
[07:28] <vwhydrowv> ok ill try that
[07:28] <mari> I am trying to add the GPG key from tuxfamily.org for awn... but its saying Service Unavailable..... Please Help
[07:28] <mactimes> Hello, I'm making backups to reinstall my system.  Could someone please tell me how do I backup my OpenPGP keys?
[07:28] <Draynor> now i get: /dev/scd0: data
[07:29] <Kevin`> Draynor mount -t udf /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:29] <Draynor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50829/
[07:30] <Kevin`> bleh, try iso9660 again
[07:30] <th0r> mactimes just copy pubring.gpg and secring.gpg (or pubring.pkr/secring.pkr)
[07:30] <Kevin`> something is really messed up here
[07:30] <naknomik> I want to reset all the desktop setitngs to default, how can I do that without distroying my data in my home directory?
[07:30] <vwhydrowv> smbpasswrd: command not found cam back
[07:30] <Draynor> mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0?
[07:30] <mactimes> th0r: Will this backup my private key?
[07:30] <Kevin`> yes
[07:30] <th0r> vwhydrowv smbpasswd.....no 'r'
[07:30] <Draynor> same error as the udf
[07:30] <vwhydrowv> ok
[07:31] <th0r> mactimes your private key is in secring.gpg, all public keys are stored in pubring.gpg
[07:31] <ruru> vwhydrowv you have same problem i have and i have put in smbpass and login under the samba control user i installed from synaptic
[07:31] <bulmer> Draynor,  try to add the -o loop option with the -t iso9660
[07:31] <Kevin`> bulmer why?
[07:31] <mactimes> th0r: Thank you very much!!! =)
[07:31] <Draynor> mount -t -o iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0?
[07:31] <vwhydrowv> ruru, installed from same place
[07:31] <bulmer> Kevin`, some iso doesnt get mounted lest you use loop
[07:31] <matholum> i have a folder on a partition for files... the owner is root and i only have read access to the folder and files... i tried to change it but even as root it won't work
[07:32] <matholum> can someone help me out?
[07:32] <Kevin`> bulmer .. if you say so
[07:32] <vwhydrowv> do you define the username when u use smbpasswd th0r?
[07:32] <Takeda> raga, che comando è questo: sudo update-initramfs -u
[07:32] <Kevin`> Draynor mount -o loop /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:32] <bulmer> Draynor more like  mount -o loop -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:32] <Kalamansi> bulmer : http://pastebin.com/m6a7cf694
[07:32] <th0r> vwhydrowv check 'man smbpasswd'. What the command does depends on who is running it...whether you use it as a user or as root
[07:32] <nshuman> hey guys.. i just installed ubuntu but i'm having a problem with a Grub error 21.. if anybody could help me out i would greatly appreciate it
[07:33] <DIL> mount -o loop xxx.iso /mnt/xxx
[07:33] <vwhydrowv> ok
[07:33] <bulmer> Kalamansi, okay, again do you notice anything un-usual with that result?
[07:33] <Kevin`> Draynor have you ever used a dvd burned using the same program you used for this one in this drive?
[07:33] <Draynor> king@nook-desktop:~$ sudo  mount -o loop -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0
[07:33] <Draynor> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[07:33] <Draynor>        missing codepage or other error
[07:33] <Draynor>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:33] <Draynor>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:33] <Draynor> Oops
[07:33] <travis> th0r uninstalling and reinstalling firefox fixed my problem, thanks for the help
[07:34] <Draynor> sorry guys, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50830/
[07:34] <th0r> travis :)
[07:34] <matholum> I'm just wondering... can you guys even see me? <_<
[07:34] <Draynor> And Kevin, I used Windows to burn it. No software
[07:34] <Kalamansi> bulmer : the eth1 inet address?
[07:34] <lewwy> sound on my intel 845grg doesn't work, any suggestions?  I think its soundmax
[07:34] <lewwy> matholum yeh we can ese you
[07:34] <DIL> we saw what you did last night too
[07:34] <Kevin`> Draynor fine. have you ever used a dvd burnt from windows vista with no other software in THIS drive?
[07:35] <matholum> lol... ok... no one has answered for a while so i was gettig confused
[07:35] <lewwy> cd burning in windows vista is very broken
[07:35] <bulmer> Kalamansi, what is un-usual about what you pasted?
[07:35] <Draynor> No I haven't. I've only used XP burnt dvds on Ubuntu, not Vista
[07:35] <Draynor> It works on XP and Vista though.
[07:35] <Kevin`> Draynor on the same computer or different computers
[07:35] <lewwy> must be some sort of closed source secret
[07:35] <Draynor> On different computers.
[07:36] <Kevin`> I suspect the disc is made in a way this drive doesn't understand
[07:36] <nanbudh> seeing so many web OS choices i wondered if there is any "ubuntu webtop" in offing anywhere?
[07:36] <Kevin`> Draynor one more thing, dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd0
[07:36] <Kevin`> Draynor not sure how helpful it will be
[07:36] <rich1> hi.  how do i add a dirctory to PATH?
[07:36] <nshuman> sorry to be pushy guys.. but im really stressed out. I have windows xp on one harddrive and i just installed ubuntu onto a blank harddrive that i just connected to my computer, but when i try to start up, my BIOS doesn't recognize my new harddrive and i get a Grub Error 21... can someone help me please???
[07:36] <Kalamansi> bulmer : the inet addr? not sure tho. but its like this.. modem > server pc1 > switch > pc2. and still pc2 have no net
[07:36] <bulmer> Kalamansi, hint..missing ip address
[07:36] <vwhydrowv> got it
[07:36] <nanbudh> what i mean is not simply file soring sharing utility but a full online desktop
[07:36] <Draynor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50831/
[07:36] <vwhydrowv> sudo smbpasswd -a username
[07:37] <vwhydrowv> password
[07:37] <th0r> rich1 'export PATH=$PATH,<newdir>'
[07:37] <vwhydrowv> whoever else was having issues with this try that
[07:37] <matholum> I can't put files on my storage drive.... hay nadie que puede ayudarme... T_T
[07:37] <ruru> i give it try once i have other computer back up..tahnks
[07:37] <Kevin`> Draynor try finalizing the disc
[07:37] <rich1> th0r: thanks!!
[07:38] <Draynor> What do you mean?
[07:38] <Kalamansi> bulmer : yeah the ip address.. but this is a wireless internet broadband...my isp give me a antenna and a cable. then connect the rj45 to nic1...
[07:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi next is for you to download dhcp server on your ubuntu server or you can assign static to eth2 and also on your pc2
[07:38] <Kevin`> hey, it's your software. it's usually called exactly that
[07:38] <scguy318> nshuman: if you're in need of booting to something, try XP recovery console or Super GRUB CD
[07:38] <th0r> rich1 that may need a colon instead of a comma after $PATH...can't recall
[07:38] <vwhydrowv> no prob, feels good helping someone else especially since i just started linux today :)
[07:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi your eth2 does not have an ip address
[07:38] <Draynor> Called exactly what?
[07:38] <th0r> rich1 you can check the path with 'echo $PATH'
[07:38] <Kevin`> finalize
[07:38] <scguy318> nshuman: fixmbr at XP recovery console so you can boot to something
[07:39] <ruru> anyone wouldnt happen to know how to switch the connection from one nic to other
[07:39] <lewwy> anyone here have any idea regarding an older soundmax card on ubuntu 7.10?  Its not showing up in hardware anywhere
[07:39] <nshuman> scguy how do i get to xp recovery console?
[07:39] <Kalamansi> bulmer : when i have no signal or no internet i just go to browser and type any website e.g www.yahoo.com and it redirect me to the website of my isp and login...
[07:39] <Kevin`> Draynor some drives don't recognize discs that aren't "finished" writing data to them
[07:39] <scguy318> nshuman: pop in your XP CD, at the installation screen, press R, then C
[07:39] <Kevin`> Draynor this disc you could add more files to, for example
[07:39] <Kalamansi> bulmer : how to set an ip address to eth2?
[07:39] <scguy318> nshuman: when you reach the temrinal, fixmbr
[07:39] <Kevin`> Draynor odd that it would happen with a writer..
[07:39] <scguy318> nshuman: then reboot
[07:39] <nanbudh> nshuman: try smart boot manager.But  u need a clean floppy disk for that. Boot up from floppy and it will give u a choice of drives u wish to boot up from.
[07:39] <scguy318> nshuman: that should get you back the ability to boot to P
[07:40] <scguy318> *XP
[07:40] <Draynor> So what should I do? The reason why this disk is so important is because I dont have a backup copy of it.
[07:40] <rich1> th0r: just did it with the comma.  it added my home dir to the path.
[07:40] <nshuman> uh... unfortunately i have no idea where my xp cd is :-/   any other way around this?
[07:40] <scguy318> nshuman: you may try the Super GRUB CD
[07:40] <Kevin`> Draynor easy: read the files on another computer and write them with a different proram
[07:40] <Kevin`> program*
[07:40] <scguy318> nshuman: works off of a CD and USB I believe
[07:40] <mari> anyone?
[07:40] <bulmer> Kalamansi ifconfig eth2 xx.x.x.x something like this..or you can google for correct syntax..am slow right now
[07:40] <Kevin`> Draynor hard: find how to finalize the disk with whatever you have
[07:41] <cvd> i have a xx.sh shot make it executable?
[07:41] <Draynor> So basically, I have to go with the second option since I have no backup of the content on a PC right?
[07:41] <shawnmstout> i have a apache web server and im trying to figure out how to share a local drive to the directory
[07:41] <rich1> th0r: ugh.  it should have been a colon after $PATH.
[07:41] <nshuman> scguy what is the super grub cd?  also... say i do get into xp, what do i do from there? i think the problem is that my bios isnt recognizing the harddrive that i installed ubuntu to. did i have to configure the drive before i used ubuntu's partition manager to install on it?
[07:41] <shawnmstout> has anyone tried this before?
[07:41] <th0r> rich1 yeah...couldn't remember...sorry
[07:41] <Kevin`> Draynor can't you read the disc in other drives?
[07:42] <rich1> th0r: how do i delete from path?
[07:42] <Kalamansi> bulmer :  sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.2
[07:42] <Kalamansi> [sudo] password for lan:
[07:42] <Kalamansi> 192.168.1.2: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[07:42] <bulmer> Kalamansi you made me look at my notes..   ip addr add 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2 brd+
[07:42] <scguy318> nshuman: the Super GRUB CD is a CD that lets you restore bootability and lets you boot an arbitrary partition
[07:42] <scguy318> nshuman: and configure in what way?
[07:42] <Draynor> Yes on my newer Vista computer I can but at the moment it's in a place where I can't access it for a few days.
[07:43] <Kalamansi> bulmer : sudo lan@lan-desktop:~$ ip addr add 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2 brd+
[07:43] <Kalamansi> Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "brd+" is a garbage.
[07:43] <Kevin`> Draynor try readcd dev=/dev/scd0 -f whatever.iso
[07:43] <shawnmstout> anyone?
[07:43] <scguy318> nshuman: if your BIOS isn't recognizing your HDD, how do you have it hooked up?
[07:43] <rich1> th0r: i added ",/home/rich1" to $PATH, how do i delete that dir?
[07:43] <th0r> rich1 you have to define the entire path as far as I know. course...there are ways to use bash scripting to delete part of it and rewrite it, but I don't think that would be worth the trouble. Just 'echo $PATH', highlight the part you do want and paste it into 'export PATH=,,,,,'
[07:43] <n6hgg> j #kubuntu
[07:43] <Kevin`> Draynor if it works try mounting that. I doubt it will work though
[07:43] <rich1> th0r: ok.  i'll try that.
[07:44] <nshuman> scguy: what i did was popped a brand new harddrive into my computer (and connected it of course) but did no sort of installation with software or anything like that to get my computer to recognize it. when i was installing ubuntu, it asked which drive to install on and i told it to install on the new drive.. but now when i start up my computer i get Grub loading error 21.. and when i try to go to my boot menu in my bios i cannot select 
[07:44] <cvd> Hello
[07:44] <Draynor> what would go in place of the 'whatever'.iso? I have NO clue at all of the files names on the disc.
[07:44] <bulmer> Kalamansi,  what is that sudo doing there on that line?
[07:44] <th0r> rich1 you can highlight the path in the terminal and copy it to a text editor, edit it, then copy it back into the terminal as part of the export command
[07:44] <Kevin`> Draynor whatever you want to call the file
[07:44] <mari> I am getting ERROR 503 Service Unavailable from the tuxfamily.org repos
[07:44] <Kevin`> wow?
[07:44] <th0r> rich1 that's what I would do
[07:44] <mari> please hewget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/reacocard.asc
[07:44] <cvd> ./xx.sh +x?
[07:44] <mari> I mean please help
[07:44] <scguy318> nshuman: hmm
[07:44] <Kalamansi> bulmer : same thing also without "sudo" Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "brd+" is a garbage.
[07:44] <mari> I am a girl and that
[07:45] <soldats> problem loading server
[07:45] <Kevin`> Draynor actually, I found something that might work for you
[07:45] <bulmer> Kalamansi paste the exact command again?  dont include your system prompts
[07:45] <scguy318> nshuman: does your BIOS detect your new HDD at all?
[07:45] <Kevin`> Draynor in man growisos:
[07:45] <Kevin`>     To finalize the multisession DVD maintaining maximum compatibility:
[07:45] <Kevin`>             growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero
[07:45] <Draynor> it says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50832/ and the number after "addr:" is increasing
[07:45] <rich1> th0r: i think that worked.  let me try the script and i'll let you know.
[07:45] <mari> anyone
[07:45] <Draynor> what
[07:45] <mari> ?
[07:46] <Kalamansi> bulmer :  ip addr add 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2 brd+
[07:46] <Kevin`> Draynor that would finalize the disk, but since it's reading something let it go for now
[07:46] <Draynor> Ok I will try that
[07:46] <Draynor> Ok
[07:46] <cvd> chmod +x, thansk anyway
[07:46] <nshuman> scguy: not that i can see... when i go to the boot menu it has a list of items to boot from. it has my floppy drive, my two ide harddrives that i have in there (the new drive is a sata) and my two dvd drives. nothing else.
[07:46] <bulmer> Kalamansi and you get an error with that?
[07:46] <syndr0> is it possible to partition a usb hard drive?
[07:47] <Kalamansi> bulmer : Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "brd+" is a garbage.
[07:47] <th0r> mari that server does not seem to be in business
[07:47] <scguy318> syndr0: yes
[07:47] <mari> ?
[07:47] <Kevin`> syndr0 yes.
[07:47] <nshuman> scguy: ubuntu however recognized the new hd no problem and said that it was able to install ubuntu onto it
[07:47] <syndr0> do i havew to do it through terminal?
[07:47] <syndr0> cause gparted wont let me
[07:47] <syndr0> or it wont let me cause its mounter
[07:47] <syndr0> ?
[07:47] <syndr0> mountd*
[07:47] <JW> bulmer: hi
[07:47] <Kevin`> syndr0 it should let you. make sure it's unmounted of course..
[07:47] <syndr0> ok
[07:47] <syndr0> duh
[07:47] <syndr0> ty
[07:47] <bulmer> Kalamansi okay remove the brd+ on that command
[07:47] <scguy318> nshuman: perhaps you should check your BIOS settings in regards to SATA
[07:47] <bulmer> JW hello
[07:48] <scguy318> nshuman: if the BIOS cannot see your device, I believe GRUB will not be able to either
[07:48] <mari> th0r: do you think its a long-term issue?
[07:48] <JW> how are you today?
[07:48] <Return0> hey
[07:48] <syndr0> kevin', i wanna format this removable hd for a mac osx10.4 what file system should i use, or youdont know
[07:48] <ruru> when i sudo smbpasswd -a <username> I get segement fault (core dump)
[07:48] <Draynor> kevin, its about half way there. just saying..
[07:48] <th0r> mari I would have no way to know...don't even know if it ever existed
[07:48] <scguy318> nshuman: other than that, I unfortunately do not know too much with regards to your issue :(
[07:48] <Kevin`> syndr0 fat32 or hfs+
[07:48] <teckfatt> syndr0: to umount just type $ sudo umount /dev/sdb1 (usually is sdb1 u can check it with df -h)
[07:48] <nshuman> scguy: how can i make my bios see the device? because i don't understand how ubuntu could see it but my bios couldnt... hm..
[07:48] <Kalamansi> bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ ip addr add 192.168.2.1/42 dev eth2
[07:48] <Kalamansi> Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "192.168.2.1/42".
[07:48] <scguy318> nshuman: because Linux initializes devices independently of the BIOS
[07:48] <bulmer> Kalamansi 24 not 42
[07:49] <JW> bulmer: wha's cooking?
[07:49] <Kalamansi> bulmer : 24 is for 24 computers?
[07:49] <Return0> I'm trying to run unbuntu on my PS3 and I just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now I can't boot.  It hangs at the "Booting system..." after loading the kernel
[07:49] <nshuman> scguy: i see... well this is kind of a bummer... any advice as to how i could go about finding out how to make my bios recognize my new harddrive? like, was there a disc i was supposed to use when i first put it in?
[07:49] <bulmer> Kalamansi nope, 24 bits are the mask bits to have 1's in them
[07:50] <shawnmstout> i have a apache web server and im trying to figure out how to share a local drive to the directory
[07:50] <th0r> Kalamansi 24 says pay attention to the first 24 bits of this address
[07:50] <XiXaQ> in what file is third-party repositories stored? I've added those for partner, but it's not added in sources.list?
[07:50] <JW> bulmer: do you know gaim?
[07:50] <n6hgg> nshuman, are the jumpers on the new hard drive set correctly?
[07:50] <bulmer> JW am assisting some folks with their network issues
[07:50] <Kevin`> ok time for my question again: how can I remove the packages for the kernel and kernel modules it doesn't attempt to download them and is it safe to do so (ignoring the obvious)
[07:50] <Kevin`> *so it doesn't
[07:50] <bulmer> JW not familiar with using icq or messaging thingy
[07:51] <nshuman> n6hgg: yes i assume so.. it should be set as a slave, correct?
[07:51] <releod> Anyone know why Netatalk does not autostart properly, and how to resolve that (Gutsy)?
[07:51] <mari> ??:
[07:51] <n6hgg> yes, as slave I beleive.
[07:51] <Draynor> kevin, its done doing that. its saved as an iso
[07:51] <nshuman> n6hgg: well that is what i believe I have it set at
[07:51] <n6hgg> nshuman: I wonder if setting it to "cable select" would correct it?
[07:52] <Kevin`> Draynor file whatever.iso
[07:52] <bulmer> Kalamansi, did it took the ip address assigned? you can confirm via  ifconfig
[07:52] <th0r> shawnmstout what do you mean about sharing a local dir...do you want people to be able to view the directory or do you want to map it into the apache serverspace or????
[07:52] <nshuman> n6hgg: how would i do that?
[07:52] <Return0> So what can I do? I don't really know what I can do in kboot to get my system back up and I don't really know what changed in the upgrade that could have caused the problem.
[07:52] <Draynor> /home/king/whatever.iso: data
[07:52] <Kevin`> Draynor ignore it for now and try the growisofs command given. after that remove the cd and put it back in
[07:53] <netlarlinux> I am trying to share a fat32 drive from linux, do I need to change it from the root group?
[07:53] <releod> How do I get Netatalk to start when the system boots up?
[07:53] <n6hgg> nshuman: not sure, but alot of drives have a jumper position for "cable select" in addition to the usual "master" and "slave" settings.
[07:53] <Draynor> :-( /dev/dvd doesn't look like isofs...
[07:53] <Draynor> thats the msg i got
[07:53] <th0r> netlarlinux no...all you need to do is give it the correct options in /etc/fstab
[07:53] <nshuman> n6hgg: i see... what do you think setting it to cable select as opposed to slave would do?
[07:54] <JW> 8-)
[07:54] <Kevin`> Draynor I would just leave the thing alone for a few days until you can copy the files off. assuming /dev/dvd points to /dev/scd0
[07:54] <shadix> ack my internet connection speed is manic-depressive
[07:54] <netlarlinux> I already am sharing a folder on that drive, that is not enough th0r?
[07:54] <Draynor> How can I find out if it points there or not?
[07:54] <Kevin`> ls -l /dev/dvd
[07:54] <puff> bTypically the default
[07:54] <shawnmstout> hey puff
[07:55] <Kevin`> cmon, someone tell me how to delete my kernel
[07:55] <Draynor> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-01-04 18:38 /dev/dvd -> scd0
[07:55] <n6hgg> nshuman: it doesn't harm anything to have them in the wrong position, it will just cause the machine to not boot at all or it won't see the drive at all.  I don't know if "cable select" will fix it but you can't hurt anything by trying.  If it doesn't work, just return it to where it is now and you'll be back to the same problem you have now.
[07:55] <shadix> when DL new apps the speed is like a rollercoaster
[07:55] <shadix> damn brbr
[07:55] <spee> Kevin` rm -rf /usr/src/dev/kernel
[07:55] <puff> shawnmstout: Okay, so typically the default apache install is configured to now follow links across partitions.
[07:55] <Kevin`> spee hehe, the packages for it, so it doesn't auto install
[07:55] <shawnmstout> ok
[07:55] <nshuman> n6hgg: i see.. thank you for your help, i will try that. if that doesnt work however, can you think of any other ways to get my bios to recognize my harddrive?
[07:56] <netlarlinux> The drive is not even in that file th0r
[07:56] <A99> Hello World, how i can install .rpm's on ubuntu?
[07:56] <bulmer> Kevin`, you want to remove a kernel?  in /boot/ ?
[07:56] <scguy318> !rpm | A99
[07:56] <ubotu> A99: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:56] <fantum13> Would anyone know how to set up GNOME so that it allowed me to enter a password to use for an EncFS encrypted home directory?
[07:56] <scguy318> A99: it may not the best idea though
[07:56] <puff> shawnmstout: so, by "local drive" do you mean you want to have apache serve data from a different partition?
[07:56] <Ademan> i do this once every upgrade, anyone know where i can get the bluecurve metacity theme?
[07:56] <shawnmstout> yes
[07:56] <Draynor> kevin, Go to Synaptic Package Manager or Adept and search for linux-image. and delete the one u want? lol i just saw that on google, don't know if it'll work
[07:56] <n6hgg> nshuman: is it a pretty recent machine?  I've not had that problem with bioses as old as 1996.
[07:56] <A99> So i need to install alien?
[07:57] <th0r> netlarlinux I'm not following the problem. You can mount the drive anywhere, but usually they are mounted to /media/<mountname>.
[07:57] <shawnmstout> different drive altogether but i believe linux just sees it as partitions
[07:57] <ruru> well its not nic card..something in system.  both nics configure and show connected but will not recieve dhcp info from the router.
[07:57] <Kevin`> Draynor I don't have the graphics driver installed. might if I did :)
[07:57] <nshuman> n6hgg: yes, I got the computer in 2002
[07:57] <Ademan> A99: why are you installing rpm files anyways? chances are it's already in the repositories
[07:57] <netlarlinux> it is mounted there, it is a second drive th0r
[07:57] <Draynor> oh.
[07:57] <ruru> think its yet another one them reinstall ubuntu to fix the problem
[07:57] <bulmer> ruru both are wifi nic cards?
[07:57] <shawnmstout> i have it shared as /media/Drobo
[07:57] <ruru> no just normal nics
[07:57] <shawnmstout> with samba
[07:57] <A99> Ademan, there is no VMware Workstation in repos.
[07:58] <n6hgg> nshuman: I could always be barking up the wrong tree here.  But, you'll probably figure it out pretty soon.
[07:58] <Kevin`> bulmer the problem is it's trying to install new versions and failing. but it would be nice to not be wasting space either
[07:58] <scguy318> A99: just use the VMware install script
[07:58] <th0r> netlarlinux  ok....sorry...not following the question. Can you restate th eproblem?
[07:58] <puff> shawnmstout: Ah, okay, well samba is tricky territory, but if linux just sees it as a partition then apache probably will serve it, if oyu enable cross-partition linking.
[07:58] <A99> scguy318, i need to download it in .tar.gz?
[07:58] <Draynor> kevin my thing does point to there so I guess I'll just wait until I get to go on the new PC. Thanks a lot for the help though, I learned a lot about commands. :)
[07:58] <bulmer> Kevin`, id retain the old one just in case the new one does not work or suits you
[07:58] <shawnmstout> how do i enable that?
[07:58] <n6hgg> nshuman: my problems have always been when the jumper wasn't set correctly for the computer, but most of my older computers like "slave" for the second drive.
[07:58] <Kevin`> bulmer the default kernels don't work on this device
[07:59] <netlarlinux> I am trying to share my fat32 drive that is on my linux box th0r
[07:59] <scguy318> A99: yes
[07:59] <netlarlinux> over samba
[07:59] <nshuman> n6hgg: its okay, thank you for your help. i hope i get it figured out pretty soon, i can't use ubuntu or xp right now :-(
[07:59] <shawnmstout> and how do i create a link
[07:59] <bulmer> Kevin`, oh okay, i didnt realize it is a special device
[07:59]  * A99 is saying:THX, scguy! and exiting (:
[07:59] <shawnmstout> im almost done setting up my server, this is the last thing i have to do
[07:59] <th0r> netlarlinux share it with users on that computer or with other computers?
[07:59] <nshuman> n6hgg: do you think the fact that this is my third harddrive and it is the only sata drive (the other two are ide) has anything to do with it?
[07:59] <bulmer> Kevin`, have you tried other kernels? maybe damn small linux or those tiny ones?
[07:59] <netlarlinux> I can see it on the other computer, but cannot log in to the folder th0r
[08:00] <shawnmstout> i have got apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, and linux installed with smbshare dont today
[08:00] <netlarlinux> yes th0r
[08:00] <shawnmstout> not too shabby for a beginner huh?
[08:00] <zetheroo> how do I get out of this screen zoom mode??
[08:00] <Kevin`> bulmer I have one for it that works, the problem is the kernel packages when upgrading now
[08:00] <netlarlinux> Other computers
[08:00] <netlarlinux> My mac th0r
[08:00] <th0r> netlarlinux ok...when you attempt to map the drive on the other computer, you need to enter a user and password, right?
[08:00] <zetheroo> anyone>?
[08:00] <GFree> wow. you done good for a n00b shawnmstout. :)
[08:01] <netlarlinux> yes
[08:01] <bulmer> Kevin`, yeah, packaging of customized stuff is rather cumbersome to include
[08:01] <n6hgg> nshuman: good luck, and may the force be with you.  by the way, if you need to restore to boot only xp, you might be able to put a windows emergency boot floppy in there and type "fdisk mbr" to get the drive back to booting only xp.  you might want to google that trick.
[08:01] <shawnmstout> thanks
[08:01] <shawnmstout> :)
[08:01] <netlarlinux> and I enter in my user name and login for the computer th0r
[08:01] <Kevin`> bulmer bah we're miscommunicating so much :)
[08:01] <th0r> netlarlinux did you define that password with smbpasswd? It can be the same password but it has to be defined with the command smbpasswd
[08:01] <Kevin`> bulmer I didn't package mine, the packages for the normal i686 kernel is causing problems
[08:01] <puff> shawnmstout: okay, so you have a directory, /etc/apache2/sites-available
[08:01] <netlarlinux> opps, did not know that th0r
[08:01] <shawnmstout> had alot of help with it through here and reading though so i cant take all the credit
[08:01] <nano__> does anybody know how i can use apt-get to get a list of programs that are maintained by apt-get?
[08:01] <bulmer> Kevin`, sorry am misreading you..its midnight for me..my eyes are half closed :)
[08:02] <th0r> netlarlinux give me a sec....I just solved this for someone else....let me see if it is still in the buffer.
[08:02] <Kalamansi> bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ ip addr add 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2
[08:02] <Kalamansi> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
[08:02] <netlarlinux> ok
[08:02] <zetheroo> anyone?
[08:02] <puff> shawnmstout: there's a file in sites-available where the config stuff for each website is kept.  The default file is probably what you're using, unlss you set up a domain-specific sites-available file.
[08:02] <Kevin`> Kalamansi be root
[08:02] <ruru> got be just a setting keeping it from connecting.
[08:02] <bullgard4> [Gutsy] What does 'frv' stand for in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/arch/frv/kernel/setup.c?
[08:02] <nshuman> n6hgg: thank you.. i think im gonna try the super grub cd and see if that will do anything for me. i dont happen to have any floppy disks (nor do i have any idea how to use them)
[08:02] <shadix_> what is with my download rate. it's going from unknown to 0 kbs
[08:03] <bulmer> Kalamansi whats the result of ifconfig ? you have an ip address for eth2 now or still no?
[08:03] <shawnmstout> yes i do
[08:03] <n6hgg> nshuman: probably can execute "fdisk mbr" from the xp cd install disk or something.
[08:03] <netlarlinux> just tried it, the smbpasswd seems to be set already and is the same as my login pass, th0r
[08:03] <puff> shawnmstout: The file you want is probably /etc/apache2/sites-available/default.
[08:03] <shawnmstout> no configuring on that just yet
[08:03] <shawnmstout> ill look
[08:03] <bulmer> Kalamansi yeah, you have to be root to use "ip" commands
[08:03] <nano__> does anybody know how i can use apt-get to get a list of programs that are maintained by apt-get?
[08:03] <shawnmstout> yes default is the only one
[08:03] <puff> shawnmstout: Check to see if there is a string like "Options FollowSymLinks"
[08:04] <nshuman> n6hgg: unfortunately i have no idea where my xp install disk is
[08:04] <Kalamansi> bulmer : http://pastebin.com/m6d84f7d0
[08:04] <n6hgg> nshuman: that command will restore you master boot record (MBR) back to the state it was to boot only windows
[08:04] <puff> nano__: "apt-cache search foo", but you should probably just use aptitude intead.
[08:04] <n6hgg> ok
[08:04] <Kalamansi> bulmer : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:04] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:04] <shawnmstout> ok
[08:04] <Thai> d
[08:04] <puff> nano__: Aptitude is like apt-get/apt-cache but somewhat more user-friendly.  Only one binary to remember, "aptitude search foo" and "aptitude install foo", etc.
[08:04] <matholum> anyone know how to change permissions of a folder when it doesn't work as root?
[08:04] <th0r> netlarlinux  try this....  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50835/
[08:04] <puff> shawnmstout: Is it there?
[08:05] <nano__> i c
[08:05] <fantum13> Is there any way I can get Gnome to mount an EncFS encrypted home directory?
[08:05] <netlarlinux> ok thanks th0r
[08:05] <shawnmstout> <Directory />
[08:05] <shawnmstout> 		Options FollowSymLinks
[08:05] <shawnmstout> 		AllowOverride None
[08:05] <shawnmstout> 	</Directory>
[08:05] <cvd> Latest News: Blu-Ray wins!!
[08:05] <nano__> puff: what if i don't know the pogram name that i installed....
[08:05] <shawnmstout> there?
[08:05] <bulmer> Kalamansi,  looks very close, except that the broadcast address should be 192.168.2.255
[08:05] <isaacj87> how do I leave graphical boot and view the boot up in text mode?
[08:05] <isaacj87> is it alt+f4?
[08:05] <n6hgg> nshuman: maybe you can download a floppy file from the net.  you can put it on a floppy and then put the floppy in the floppy drive of that machine, turn it on and it will boot using the floppy.  you can google the rest of the instructions if it gets to that point for you.
[08:06] <nano__> puff: is there a way to organize by date the packages that are managed by apt-get?
[08:06] <Kevin`> isaacj87 escape or alt+f1 I think.
[08:06] <bulmer> Kalamansi to delete the ip address..  ip addr del 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2
[08:06] <puff> nano__: "dpkg -l" to list all of the programs you installed.
[08:06] <nano__> i c
[08:06] <bulmer> Kalamansi prefix those command with sudo so you are root when issuing those commands
[08:06] <shadix_> ok what could be causing my internet connection to be sooo slow
[08:06] <isaacj87> Kevin`: uh oh...lol...so what does alt+f4 do?
[08:06] <n6hgg> nshuman: there's some internet site for boot floppys, but it sounds like you could use restoring your master boot record if you want to get windows back and start the whole thing over.
[08:06] <puff> nano__: dpkg was the original tool for the stuff that apt-get and aptitude manage, they all use the same database.
[08:07] <puff> nano__: so you'll generally find that you need to get somewhat familiar with dpkg if things get complicate.d
[08:07] <nano__> puff: i knew that but somehow i wasn't connecting the dots...
[08:07] <puff> nano__: Another good one to know is "dpkg -L packagename" will show you all the files that a particular package put on you rmachine.
[08:07] <Kalamansi> bulmer : done sudo ip addr del 192.168.2.1/21 dev eth2
[08:07] <bulmer> Kalamansi be quick on your response, am ready for my nap
[08:07] <nshuman> n6hgg: thank you.. i think ill try that. thanks again for the help
[08:07] <Kevin`> isaacj87 it would how terminal 4
[08:07] <Kalamansi> hold on abit bulmer please...
[08:07] <nano__> puff: i hate reading loooong man pages.......
[08:07] <Kalamansi> hehe
[08:07] <bulmer> Kalamansi  you are mistyping  /24 not /21
[08:08] <isaacj87> Kevin`: nothing damaging I hope :)
[08:08] <Kevin`> no.
[08:08] <puff> shawnmstout:  Okay, look slike FollowSymLinks is enabled.  Now don't ever paste into an irc channel again.
[08:08] <Kalamansi> sorry 24
[08:08] <Kalamansi> bulmer : its 24. missed type
[08:08] <puff> shawnmstout: use pastebin.com, or check the channel topic to see if the channel has a preferred pastebin ste.
[08:08] <Kalamansi> bulmer : http://pastebin.com/m39068e
[08:08] <n6hgg> nshuman: yea, there's lot of internet info on how to restore your master boot record, usually just one command away from getting it back.  It's easy if you can get a dos command line going or just research it a little.
[08:08] <vwhydrowv> puff  http://compsol.no-ip.org
[08:08] <vwhydrowv> i pasted it there
[08:08] <n6hgg> nshuman: see ya
[08:08] <shadix_> after I install Ubuntu besides doing updates is there anything else you'd recommend i do
[08:08] <isaacj87> Kevin`: thanks :)
[08:09] <puff> nano__:  No guarnatees, but you may find it useful to read my notes at http://darksleep.com/notablog/ubuntu/ubuntujournal.txt
[08:09] <nano__> if i put my laptop in suspend/hibernate mode, how can i make the laptop return to linux partition after i resume, instead of going to the grub menu?
[08:09] <puff> vwhydrowv: Cool.
[08:09] <shawnmstout> puff, vwhydrowv is my other nick sorry
[08:09] <nano__> puff: i will book mark that asap
[08:09] <puff> shawnmstout: okay, just bear in mind that a lot of channels get really bent out of shape if you paste text in.
[08:10] <bulmer> Kalamansi okay, add it again per the command i told you earlier  ip addr add 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2 brd+
[08:10] <puff> shawnmstout: Just imagine how hard it would be to keep up in here if people were pasting!
[08:10] <vwhydrowv> what did i paste?
[08:10] <DeFii> The file rc.firewall.local is a standard IPCop file where you can enter your own iptables rules (among other things).  What file in ubuntu can be used like that?
[08:10] <vwhydrowv> the link?
[08:10] <puff> shawnmstout: Okay, so second step is to create a symlink from /var/www to the drectory on your samba partition.
[08:10] <bulmer> Kalamansi aw heck, remember to sudo
[08:10] <netlarlinux> thanks th0r that worked perfectly
[08:10] <Kalamansi> bulmer : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:10] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:10] <vwhydrowv> ok
[08:10] <th0r> netlarlinux :)
[08:10] <puff> shawnmstout: the <Directory> </Directory> set from sites-available.
[08:11] <Kalamansi> bulmer : ifconfig thats the result
[08:11] <Kalamansi> bulmer : still no bcast...
[08:11] <vwhydrowv> so if /media/Drobo is the directory then i should put that in there?
[08:11] <nano__> puff: you must be a big fan of lynx or other non-gui browsers, judging by your webpage
[08:11] <Aqua> evenin' folks
[08:11] <Thai> j'
[08:11] <bulmer> Kalamansi hmm..im surprised it is not assigning the broadcast correctly
[08:11] <bulmer> Kalamansi delete once more please
[08:11] <puff> shawnmstout: The link command is "ln", -s option for symbolic.  The really confusing thing is that, unlike every other shell command that tends to be commmand from-argument to-argument, the ln command is the reverse.
[08:12] <puff> nano__: Heh. Nah, I keep meaning to fomrat that.  My other stuff is at darksleep.com/notablog
[08:12] <nano__> Aqua: more like night
[08:12] <Aqua> anyone ever seen this error???.... ICE default IO error handler doing an exit()
[08:12] <puff> nano__: I'm a big fan of emacs.
[08:12] <Kalamansi> bulmer : done. eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:12] <Kalamansi>           inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:feb5:9e2b/64 Scope:Link
[08:12] <vwhydrowv> so
[08:12] <Kalamansi> bulmer : add again?
[08:12] <nano__> puff: i prefer vi
[08:12] <Thai> d
[08:12] <vwhydrowv> sudo ln -s /media/Drobo /var/www
[08:12] <puff> nano__: The journal started as just a file full of notes that I kept after I started repeatedly going "Now how the heck did I figure out how to disable hot-keys in the terminal?"
[08:12] <vwhydrowv> does that look correct?
[08:12] <bulmer> Kalamansi lets use ifconfig..but i dont remember the exact syntax..hang on
[08:12] <puff> nano__: Well obviously you're evil. :-)
[08:13] <th0r> Kalamansi you can define the broadcast address with ifconfig
[08:13] <Kalamansi> bulmer : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:13] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.
[08:13] <puff> nano__: I mean, vi vi vi == "666", QED vi is obviously The Editor Of The Beast.
[08:13] <Thai> l
[08:13] <Kalamansi> bulmer : still no bcast.. ok ok
[08:13] <th0r> Kalamansi try ifconfig eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.255
[08:13] <DeFii> The file rc.firewall.local is a standard IPCop file where you can enter your own iptables rules (among other things).
[08:13] <nano__> puff: i find having a designated folder with note files full of how to configure my laptop really useful
[08:13] <DeFii> What file in ubuntu can be used like that?
[08:14] <nano__> puff: i never got a hold of emacs
[08:14] <bulmer> Kalamansi there you go, per th0r
[08:14] <puff> shawnmstout: so, you'll end up doing something like "ln -s /path/to/my/samba/partition/directory /var/www/mysambalink"
[08:14] <Kalamansi> th0r : lan@lan-desktop:~$ eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.255
[08:14] <Kalamansi> bash: eth2: command not found
[08:14] <Kalamansi> lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.255
[08:14] <Kalamansi> sudo: eth2: command not found
[08:14] <nano__> if i put my laptop in suspend/hibernate mode, how can i make the laptop return to linux partition after i resume, instead of going to the grub menu?
[08:14] <puff> nano__: Emacs is a religious experience.
[08:14] <Kalamansi> th0r : bulmer : thats the result
[08:14] <puff> nano__: Lucky you, emacs has a vi-mode.  Just run emacs on a file and then esc-x<space>vi-mode<enter>
[08:14] <th0r> Kalamansi you forgot the command .... 'ifconfig eth2 -bro.....'
[08:14] <bulmer> Kalamansi  you are not reading right..
[08:15] <puff> shawnmstout: you will probably need to do that ln command via sudo.
[08:15] <Kalamansi> sorry bulmer i was in a hurry coz you are sleepy
[08:15] <nano__> puff:  i guess emacs > vi, but as i remember it, vi has always been more of a durable program....ie. always required less system requirements
[08:15] <vwhydrowv> ok let me see if it created it
[08:15] <Kalamansi> th0r : bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo ifconfig eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.255
[08:15] <Kalamansi> Warning: Interface eth2 still in BROADCAST mode.
[08:15] <Kalamansi> SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid argument
[08:15] <nano__> im out of here
[08:16] <nano__> puff: thnx for ur help
[08:16] <nano__> gbye
[08:16] <Kalamansi> th0r : bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ ifconfig eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.255
[08:16] <Kalamansi> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[08:16] <Kalamansi> Warning: Interface eth2 still in BROADCAST mode.
[08:16] <Kalamansi> SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
[08:16] <Kalamansi> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[08:16] <DeFii> The file rc.firewall.local is a standard IPCop file where you can enter your own iptables rules (among other things).  What file in ubuntu can be used like that?
[08:16] <Thai> d
[08:16] <bulmer> Kalamansi, actually i dont like the 255.255.255.255 i prefer 255.255.255.0  == /24
[08:17] <Kalamansi> bulmer : an@lan-desktop:~$ sudo ifconfig eth2 -broadcast 255.255.255.0
[08:17] <Kalamansi> Warning: Interface eth2 still in BROADCAST mode.
[08:17] <Kalamansi> SIOCSIFADDR: Invalid argument
[08:17] <telexicon> bulmer, not to mention that wont even work
[08:17] <th0r> bulmer I think broadcast requires a specific address, not a range. But might have to turn down the interface before resetting
[08:18] <bulmer> telexicon right, cant have it all 1
[08:18] <vwhydrowv> what command is delete and rename in linux?
[08:18] <Kalamansi> th0r : bulmer : ifconfig result is eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:18] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:18] <Jangari> anyone had success running xmame?
[08:18] <telexicon> vwhydrowv, rm (remove), rename or mv
[08:18] <telexicon> Kalamansi, bcast should be 192.168.2.255
[08:18] <th0r> Kalamansi  right...192.168.1.255
[08:19] <th0r> oope...2.255
[08:19] <vwhydrowv> ok i see the link locally
[08:19] <vwhydrowv> but i did not edit the default file yet
[08:19] <vwhydrowv> what did i have to do with it again?
[08:19] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: You're still at it -- good for you dude.
[08:19] <Kalamansi> th0r : telexicon : bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo ifconfig eth2 -broadcast 192.168.2.255
[08:19] <Kalamansi> Warning: Interface eth2 still in BROADCAST mode.
[08:19] <vwhydrowv> purpzey :)
[08:19] <vwhydrowv> im almost finished
[08:20] <chuy> is it true that latest ubuntu harms laptop hard disks?
[08:20] <PurpZeY> chuy: Absolutely.
[08:20] <bulmer> Kalamansi, delete the ip address again
[08:20] <vwhydrowv> got php/mysql/phpmyadmin/apache/samba all setup
[08:20] <Kalamansi> th0r : bulmer : telexicon : when ifconfig : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:20] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.255  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:20] <Thai> d
[08:20] <uddalak> hi
[08:20] <PurpZeY> chuy: I am being sarcastic. I have never heard that.
[08:20] <Jangari> chuy: where did you hear that?
[08:20] <telexicon> chuy: I was under the impression that faulty BIOSes were causing that
[08:20] <mkquist> i thought it was more about how your computers power management was set up the ubuntu.... just read that coupla days ago
[08:20] <neopsyche> Im having trouble changing file permissions on apache install using root/nautilus
[08:21] <Kalamansi> telexicon bulmer th0r : thats the ifconfig
[08:21] <Jangari> dual-booting with windows does that
[08:21] <mkquist> chuy - last for u
[08:21] <vwhydrowv> purlzey, thanks for the confidence, lol, i need it
[08:21] <chuy> Jangari, I read it somewhere some hours ago
[08:21] <vwhydrowv> :)
[08:21] <puff> shawnmstout: What's up?
[08:21] <vwhydrowv> ok puff
[08:21] <chuy> Jangari, I just googled, and found this, so it may not be a lie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[08:21] <Jangari> well, i've been successfully running gutsy on three separate laptops with no issues
[08:21] <vwhydrowv> i see it locally
[08:21] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: Gotta stick it out...good for you...keep at it.
[08:21] <vwhydrowv> but what was the command for the default file again?
[08:21] <scguy318> chuy: sorta
[08:21] <neopsyche> Is there another way to change the file permissions?
[08:21] <th0r> Kalamansi there you go...at least as far as the broadcast goes
[08:21] <mkquist> chuy - its supposed to be how ur computers power management is set up not ubuntu
[08:21] <Jangari> anyone had any success running xmame
[08:22] <Jangari> ?
[08:22] <Kalamansi> th0r : but when i tried to ping 192.168.2.1 in pc 2 : request timeout....
[08:22] <vwhydrowv> actually i cant believe how easy it is purpzey, i almost got a fully functional server running
[08:22] <bulmer> Kalamansi onc eyou delete, here is the correct command   sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[08:22] <chuy> mkquist, ok, let me rephrase that, ubuntu's default power management configuration harms laptop's HDDs
[08:22] <vwhydrowv> of course i would of had a hell of a time if it wasnt for the help in this channel
[08:22] <PurpZeY> vwhydrowv: poof
[08:22] <scguy318> chuy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[08:23] <scguy318> chuy: it's the result of HDD manufacturers putting bogus info in their HDDs
[08:23] <bulmer> Kalamansi we have not done anything yet in your pc2..lets makes sure your server has the correct ip address 1st
[08:23] <Kalamansi> bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo ip addr del 192.168.2.1/24 dev eth2
[08:23] <Kalamansi> RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[08:23] <scguy318> chuy: use hdparm to rectify
[08:23] <mkquist> chuy - read similar and that was the last i found on it, that it wasn't a 'ubuntu' problem, more of a ubuntu's defaults are not to change anything, which could cause the stock settings to harm the hdd
[08:23] <vwhydrowv> so puff, what did i need to add to the default file again?
[08:23] <th0r> Kalamansi in 192.168.2.1 run 'watch ifconfig'. Then start the ping from pc2 and see if the RX packets count increases
[08:23] <vwhydrowv> under sites-available
[08:24] <DeFii> The file rc.firewall.local is a standard IPCop file where you can enter your own iptables rules (among other things).  What file in ubuntu can be used like that?
[08:24] <bulmer> th0r he has not set the ip address yet in  the server..he can do that next
[08:24] <th0r> bulmer ah...assumed since he was trying to ping...sorry
[08:24] <XiXaQ> flash still isn't available?
[08:24] <AK-WIN> hello
[08:24] <Kalamansi> bulmer : th0r : ifconfig : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[08:24] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:24] <XiXaQ> !flash
[08:24] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:24] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:25] <bulmer> Kalamansi there you go..now you can try what th0r suggested bout watching
[08:25] <Kalamansi> bulmer th0r there is a reply now
[08:25] <Kalamansi> bulmer : th0r : ping -t 192.168.2.1
[08:25] <puff> vwhydrowv: Stop switching nicks on me :-)
[08:25] <AK-WIN> http://66.58.151.161:201/  i'm testing a linux to windows remote desktop connection relay system, test if it works for outside network users
[08:25] <Kalamansi> bulmer th0r : there is a reply now
[08:25] <bulmer> Kalamansi and what ip address you have assigned to pc2 ?
[08:25] <puff> vwhydrowv: sites-available/default already had the option you needed (FollowSymlinks)
[08:25] <vwhydrowv> oh sorry
[08:26] <th0r> bulmer I have worked a lot with ifconfig, but only recently discovered 'ip'. But I haven't had much success using it...so fall back on ifconfig
[08:26] <vwhydrowv> ill still with this one
[08:26] <xenthro> hi. When I used the livecd, my graphics card (ati1650pro) displayed fine on my tv, but after I installed onto HD, the settings changed and my tv flickers without giving me an image. how do I tell ubuntu to use the same settings as the default ones on the livecd?
[08:26] <vwhydrowv> ok, so its still not showing up under http://compsol.no-ip.org
[08:26] <Kalamansi> bulmer : 192.168.2.2
[08:26] <bulmer> th0r yeah iproute2 tools is a bit weird sometimes
[08:26] <vwhydrowv> but locally it is
[08:26] <Kalamansi> bulmer : and default gateway is 192.168.2.1
[08:26] <AK-WIN> did it work?
[08:26] <puff> th0r: one gotcha to watch out for is that ifconfig and the shortcuts ifup/ifdown use different state files, so if you take an interface down with ifdown and then back up with ifconfig, then ifdown won't work because it iwll think the interface is already down.
[08:26] <Kalamansi> subnet mask 255.255.255.0
[08:27] <bulmer> Kalamansi, okay..now set your server to do port forwarding and do a NAT'ing
[08:27] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well, step one, ls -l the directory the symlink is supposd to be in.
[08:27] <th0r> puff I have run into that...but never understood exactly what was happening <smile>. Thanks
[08:27] <vwhydrowv> i did that
[08:27] <Kalamansi> bulmer : th0r :  ummm how to port forwarding and do a nat thing?
[08:28] <vwhydrowv> err, i clicked on it locally and its not pulling up the directory
[08:28] <bulmer> Kalamansi  echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:28] <vwhydrowv> i must of did something wrong
[08:28] <Kalamansi> bulmer : lan@lan-desktop:~$ echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:28] <Kalamansi> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[08:28] <Kalamansi> lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:28] <Kalamansi> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[08:28] <scguy318> Kalamansi: sudo -i then do echo ...
[08:29] <AKWIN> helo
[08:29] <chuy> scguy318, not every hdd has that problem, do  you know how to know if certain disk has that issue?
[08:29] <dwho> god bless ubuntu
[08:29] <dwho> happy new year
[08:29] <muskie> Does anyone know how to fix that damned Nvidia Black bar problem with the EDIDs?
[08:29] <vwhydrowv> no it showed up, just took a very long time
[08:29] <puff> vwhydrowv: Forget click onit, this is linux, not windows :-).  do "ls -l /var/www/wherever"
[08:29] <puff> And look at what it says about that file.
[08:29] <bulmer> Kalamansi as root again.. these require root access
[08:30] <scguy318> chuy: probably by looking at the load_cycle_count I guess
[08:30] <vwhydrowv> ok
[08:30] <puff> vwhydrowv: Here's the secret, and it's part of why technical people generally don't like windows - GUIs can lie to you.
[08:30] <Kalamansi> bulmer th0r scguy318 : lan@lan-desktop:~$ sudo -i
[08:30] <Kalamansi> root@lan-desktop:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:30] <Kalamansi> root@lan-desktop:~#
[08:30] <bulmer> Kalamansi,  sudo   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[08:30] <puff> So can CLIs, but they're less prone to.
[08:30] <bulmer> Kalamansi that should allow pc2 to access the internet now
[08:30] <Kalamansi> bulmer : root@lan-desktop:~# sudo   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[08:30] <Kalamansi> root@lan-desktop:~#
[08:31] <th0r> bulmer I hope you're looking those up and not doing it from memory <smile>
[08:31] <dwho> Kalamansi juice
[08:31] <bulmer> Kalamansi oops forgot you need to add a dns server on your pc2
[08:31] <bulmer> th0r cheat sheets  :)
[08:31] <Kalamansi> bulmer : what dns? 192.168.2.1?
[08:31] <xenthro> how do i start ubuntu with safe graphics mode... anyone?
[08:31] <vwhydrowv> ok it says, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-01-05 03:14 /var/www/Drobo -> /media/Drobo
[08:31] <topicks> what software does the ubuntu wiki use?
[08:32] <PurpZeY> xenthro: Hit esc at the point the grub menu loads
[08:32] <vwhydrowv> puff, ok
[08:32] <Kalamansi> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:32] <bulmer> Kalamansi thats the issue with using static ip address..anyhow what was the name server ip address given to you by the ISP
[08:32] <telexicon> How do I enable vertical scroll on my synaptics touchpad in hardy alpha2?
[08:32] <PurpZeY> !ubuntu+1 | telexicon
[08:32] <ubotu> telexicon: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:32] <xenthro> PurpZeY thats it?
[08:32] <bulmer> Kalamansi or on the server type   cat /etc/resolv.conf and find the nameserver ip address
[08:33] <PurpZeY> xenthro: When your computer is booting up it will say "esc for grub menu" hit esc, then you'll choose safe graphic mode
[08:33] <vwhydrowv> puff did u see my post?
[08:33] <bulmer> Kalamansi then copy same resolv.conf file into your pc2
[08:33] <xenthro> PurpZeY thanks!
[08:33] <Kalamansi> bulmer : i use 192.168.2.1 as dns. is it okay?
[08:33] <bulmer> Kalamansi nope not okay
[08:33] <vwhydrowv> ok it says, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-01-05 03:14 /var/www/Drobo -> /media/Drobo
[08:34] <bulmer> Kalamansi whatever your ISP gave you, use same in your pc2
[08:34] <Kalamansi> bulmer : what to put in dns then?
[08:34] <puff> vwhydrowv: no, you have to paste the link to it here.
[08:34] <bulmer> Kalamansi or on the server type   cat /etc/resolv.conf and find the nameserver ip address
[08:34] <bulmer> quick quick..
[08:34] <Kalamansi> bulmer : what if someone will ping flood my dns if i put it there?
[08:34] <seanieb64> Hi.
[08:35] <bulmer> Kalamansi that is not my worry right now, i m trying to get your pc2 to have access to the internet
[08:35] <vwhydrowv> ok
[08:35] <vwhydrowv> ok it says, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2008-01-05 03:14 /var/www/Drobo -> /media/Drobo
[08:35] <seanieb64> Hi.
[08:35] <vwhydrowv> thats what the ls said
[08:35] <bulmer> Kalamansi, resolve that flooding issue later
[08:35] <Kalamansi> bulmer : ok i paste the dns in your pm. the permission
[08:36] <vwhydrowv> the results of ls -l /var/www/Drobo
[08:36] <bulmer> Kalamansi dont need to paste it to me, copy it to your pc2 resolv.conf file
[08:36] <Kalamansi> bulmer : can i just auto dhcp or obtain the pc2? im worry about the ping flood thing if my dns is exposed
[08:36] <puff> vwhydrowv: Okay, and do "ls -l /media/Drobo"
[08:36] <bulmer> Kalamansi, if that is your worry ..im going to bed..
[08:37] <Kalamansi> bulmer : ok hehe.. thanks =)
[08:37] <deostroll> hello. Can anyone help me with installing the latest version of firefox?
[08:37] <vwhydrowv> ok i see my files
[08:37] <bulmer> Kalamansi, anyhow once you copy that resolv.conf you are good to go i hope
[08:37] <th0r> deostroll are you doing it through synaptic or apt-get? or did you download from the mozilla site?
[08:37] <puff> vwhydrowv: Okay, make sure /media/Drobo is world-readable.
[08:37] <Kalamansi> bulmer : copy to where?
[08:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi dang it, you are not paying attention
[08:38] <bulmer> am off..
[08:38] <Kalamansi> bulmer : copy the dns to the pc2?
[08:38] <vwhydrowv> puff, ok, so chmod 755 right?
[08:38] <deostroll> th0r: I have downloaded from mozilla site...
[08:38] <Kalamansi> bulmer im paying attention its just that im in a hurry coz you are sleepy...huhuhu
[08:38] <puff> vwhydrowv: I just always us "chmod ugo+w filename"
[08:38] <th0r> deostroll do you have an old version installed now?
[08:38] <deostroll> th0r: yes.
[08:38] <puff> vwhydrowv: That is, I just use the ugo+/- etc format.
[08:38] <bulmer> Kalamansi scroll back i gave you the instructions what to do
[08:39] <bulmer> bye
[08:39] <th0r> deostroll  are you by chance trying to install the beta of v3?
[08:39] <vwhydrowv> never heard of that before
[08:39] <Kalamansi> bulmer big thanks!!!!!
[08:39] <Kalamansi> bulmer see you later - i hope
[08:39] <deostroll> th0r: No. It 2.0. something I am installing...
[08:40] <vwhydrowv> wierd, no such file or directory
[08:40] <th0r> deostroll ok....well...you would be better off sticking with the latest upgrades via synaptic...are you sure you want to bypass that?
[08:40] <neeto> I'm trying to install azureus with an install script, and under PROGRAM_DIR I have "/home/mike/apps/azureus" but it says it's not a proper directory
[08:40] <chuy> does anyone know if radeon x700 has a thermometer, and if I can read temperature in linux?
[08:40] <XiXaQ> how do I choose which audio device firefox should use?
[08:40] <Kevin`> http://kwzs.be/~kevin/dependency.txt - is this telling me what I think it's telling me? that EVERYTHING depends on having the stock ubuntu kernel installed?
[08:40] <deostroll> ht0r: yeah, but doesn't my os version matter in that regard? I use breezy Ubuntu 5.10 :)
[08:41] <neopsyche> How do i check what ports are being used on  my system?
[08:41] <vwhydrowv> its coming back no such file or directory
[08:41] <ruru> after you put in smbpasswd do you have restart anything for it to work when networking
[08:41] <PurpZeY> neopsyche: netstate
[08:41] <PurpZeY> neopsyche: netstat
[08:41] <neopsyche> thanks
[08:41] <vwhydrowv> could it be because its the root directory of the drive?
[08:41] <boinker>  me a simple solution to install this god damn flash plugin into this damn ubuntu 7.10
[08:41] <th0r> deostroll ok...yeah...they probably aren't supporting that anymore. OK...no problem. first step is to uninstall the old firefox. Can you do that via synaptic?
[08:41] <ljsmithx> is there a python script irc channel?
[08:42] <PurpZeY> ljsmithx: #python
[08:42] <ljsmithx> k
[08:42] <ljsmithx> thanks
[08:42] <vwhydrowv> ruru, no
[08:42] <vwhydrowv> just starts to work
[08:42] <deostroll> th0r: I'll try to uninstall...wait.
[08:42] <vwhydrowv> did u put the username and pw in this time?
[08:42] <boinker> can someone please help me...does anyone know a simple way to install this damn flash plugin now thats its all bugged is there another method besides gnash is there an older deb i could use? if so WHERE!!???
[08:42] <Kevin`> anyone?
[08:42] <deostroll> th0r: or do I have to uninstall?
[08:42] <vwhydrowv> puff, said no such file or directory
[08:42] <vwhydrowv> when i tried it
[08:43] <th0r> deostroll yeah...you should uninstall the old firefox before putting in the new one...just to keep them from crossing each other up
[08:43] <boinker> i guess i must be the only one on planet earth whos had this problem with flash not working
[08:43] <astro76> !flash | boinker
[08:43] <ubotu> boinker: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[08:43] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[08:43] <deostroll> th0r: can't I just move the old one to a different location?
[08:43] <vwhydrowv> puff, i tried both chmod and /ugo+w
[08:43] <th0r> deostroll we can leave the old one in place, but things might get confusing if we do
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> the flash problem still isn't fixed?.. hmm.
[08:44] <th0r> deostroll up to you...want the next step?
[08:44] <lonetree> Hi guys
[08:44] <deostroll> th0r: ok, what if something goes wrong?
[08:44] <Kevin`> :(
[08:44] <Kalamansi> Kevin` : th0r : scguy318 : telexicon: THANKS!! BIG thanks =) pc2 have now internet ..ip 192.168.2.2 and dns is 192.168.2.1 .. subnet is 255.255.255.0
[08:44] <astro76> Kevin`, ubuntu-desktop and -standard are meta-packages, they can be removed without removing their dependencies
[08:44] <th0r> deostroll ok....let's do this.....
[08:44] <lonetree> Is anyone having problem with pptp in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:44] <xenthro> PurpZeY hitting escape does not give me a safe graphics option
[08:44] <th0r> deostroll where exactly did you save the new firefox...what folder>
[08:44] <Lichte> how do I get java6-plugin for amd64 version of ubuntu ???
[08:44] <bqmassey> anyone familiar with RSSOwl?
[08:44] <Kevin`> astro76 what about apparmor and restricted-manager
[08:45] <vwhydrowv> puff, u still around?
[08:45] <deostroll> th0r: not that I don't trust u...so r we cool on that.
[08:45] <PurpZeY> xenthro: you don't get grub menu?
[08:45] <astro76> !flash64 | Lichte
[08:45] <ubotu> Lichte: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> Lichte: i believe you'll have to install a 32bit browser on your system.
[08:45] <th0r> deostroll no problem....just be aware things might get a little confusing later.
[08:45] <lonetree> Is anyone having problem with pptp in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:45] <nano__> hi guys, i tried to remove bittorrent-python package via synaptic packet manager; however, i get the warning that "ubuntu-desktop" will also be uninstalled......?
[08:45] <Lichte> IndyGunFreak: ok
[08:45] <xenthro> PurpZeY i get a menu, but none that says that it will boot in safe graphics
[08:45] <astro76> Kevin`, the rest depend on the installed kernel version
[08:45] <PurpZeY> nano_: This is A-OK, it is just a metapackage
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: its just a meta package, its fine...
[08:46] <PurpZeY> xenthro: One of them is not safemode?
[08:46] <nano__> metapackage?
[08:46] <xenthro> PurpZeY i get a recoverymode
[08:46] <nvictor> can anybody help me with svn?
[08:46] <PurpZeY> nano_: This will not do harm to your system
[08:46] <neeto> i am trying to install azureus into a certain directory with a script, but it says that PROGRAM_DIR is invalid when I try running the script...
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: just uninstall in peace... you should hav no issues.
[08:46] <puff> vwhydrowv: Yeah, I'm around.
[08:46] <nvictor> this is the command I have typed: svn list http://repository.conceptive.be/svn-ce/patronale
[08:46] <deostroll> th0r: its on my desktop (the extracted file)
[08:46] <neopsyche> PurpZey: whats going on here: http://pastebin.com/m29ae0c5b  ???????????
[08:46] <nvictor> I get this: svn: PROPFIND of '/svn-ce/patronale': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://repository.conceptive.be)
[08:46] <xenthro> PurpZeY but that does not start all the system processes
[08:46] <PurpZeY> xenthro: That would be it.....Otherwise, you gotta use the LiveCD.
[08:46] <vwhydrowv> ok, said no file or directory
[08:46] <nano__> will do
[08:46] <nano__> thanks guys!!!
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> nvictor: so why not just installi t from the repos?
[08:46] <vwhydrowv> puff, i tried both chmod and /ugo+w
[08:46] <th0r> deostroll ok...you run gnome or kde?
[08:47] <xenthro> PurpZeY is there grub code I can edit so that it starts ubuntu in a certain way?
[08:47] <nvictor> IndyGunFreak: I'm a newbie to svn
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: just so you know, you'll get that message on almost every program y9ou ever uninstall.
[08:47] <lonetree> I am sorry to interrupt in this conversation, I would like to if anyone has experience in configuring a pptp server on ubuntu 7.10
[08:47] <nvictor> IndyGunFreak: I want to list what are in the repository
[08:47] <deostroll> th0r: that should be /home/ubuntu/Desktop/firefox. Yeah GNOME is my desktop.
[08:47] <puff> vwhydrowv: hm, well cd /media and ls -al, see what it says
[08:47] <IndyGunFreak> lonetree: just ask your uestion, if we can help, we will.
[08:47] <th0r> deostroll ok...open a nautilus window and get to the /opt directory
[08:47] <PurpZeY> xenthro: That is beyond me, I maybe missing something ask the channel again
[08:47] <nano__> IndyGunFreak: it was my first time receiving that and i was kinda freaking out
[08:47] <nano__> thnx though
[08:47] <sigra> after restarting samba does it take long time before they servers show up again on browser and is there anyway speed that up
[08:47] <lonetree> Thanks IndyGunFreak
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: naa, i bet you've gotten it before, and proably just didn't realize it.
[08:48] <deostroll> th0r:okay...
[08:48] <nano__> IndyGunFreak: im new to Ubuntu
[08:48] <lonetree> I am having a constant 2.5 mins disconnection on my pptp server
[08:48] <vwhydrowv> only has dr x on it
[08:48] <neeto> I am installing azureus with a script, and if I run the script, the program will start, but it doesn't seem to be installed anywhere... how to I install it?
[08:48] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: oh ok, so maybe it was the first time.. :)
[08:48] <vwhydrowv> ill paste it with the other sn
[08:48] <lonetree> I don't know why
[08:48] <nano__> btw, Kubuntu sucks....its so horribly packaged!
[08:48] <th0r> deostroll ok...if you extracted the file there should be a folder on your desktop called firefox, right?
[08:48] <xenthro> PurpZeY odd... i fixed it. i hit ctral alt F1 and instead of giving me a terminal it game me a functional screen
[08:48] <lonetree> i was able to get it running with no prob in 6.06
[08:48] <shawnmstout> dr-x------  1 shawnmstout shawnmstout 184320 2008-01-05 00:24 Drobo
[08:48] <Kevin`> ~.
[08:48] <Kevin`> ass
[08:48] <PurpZeY> xenthro: Yes, that is a virtual terminal
[08:48] <deostroll> th0r: yup, there is a folder called firefox.
[08:49] <Kevin`>       eep
[08:49] <IndyGunFreak> !enter | lonetree there's like 1200 people so
[08:49] <ubotu> lonetree there's like 1200 people so: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:49] <th0r> deostroll drag that folder into the nautilus window
[08:49] <PurpZeY> neopsyche: I don't know what your question about this is....seems like there's a lot of connections
[08:49] <neopsyche> yeah
[08:49] <Kevin`> astro76 so removing that should be safe
[08:49] <neopsyche> from other websites?
[08:49] <vwhydrowv> any ideas?
[08:49] <Kevin`> (irc client got.. messed up)
[08:49] <neopsyche> Can someone help me understand how to make torrent tunnel through ssh
[08:49] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: i don't know if its horribly packaged, but KDE seems to be the GUI of choice for some reason, but I hate it..
[08:49] <Kalamansi> th0r : how to connect pc2 by just obtain or dhcp to the server? not just assigning an ip address to pc2 and dns....just dhpc pc2
[08:50] <deostroll> th0r: I cannot. I should do this via terminal I guess...but I am weak at command line.
[08:50] <astro76> Kevin`, not necessarily, why are you removing the kernel?
[08:50] <neopsyche> PurpZeY: Im getting timeouts on torrents
[08:50] <nvictor> so how do I list the content of a svn repository?
[08:50] <topicks> IndyGunFreak: its too bloated. i love xfce
[08:50] <bqmassey> anyone familiar with RSSOwl?
[08:50] <th0r> deostroll right...just realized you need root access...no problem.
[08:50] <khermans> neopsyche, ssh -L ?
[08:50] <Kevin`> astro76 because it wont work on this device and the installer for it is causing problems
[08:50] <th0r> deostroll open a terminal
[08:50] <IndyGunFreak> topicks: thats my problem w/ KDE also.. I really like Gnome, Xfce is a close second... I'd buy a Mac before I got stuck w/ KDE
[08:50] <nano__> IndyGunFreak: i prefer kde coming from a fedora background, i installed Kbuntu, and a lot of important kde packages were not installed !
[08:51] <deostroll> th0r: terminal opened.
[08:51] <astro76> Kevin`, what device? installer for it?
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: i used Gnome w/ Fedora
[08:51] <neopsyche> khermans: im a noob at this, what does ssh -L do?
[08:51] <Jangari> trying to run emulators with xmame, except all show up as not found, even those that i've downloaded and installed in my roms folder. Anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[08:51] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well yeah, look at you rperms, Drobo is user-readable but not group-readable or world-readable.
[08:51] <nano__> IndyGunFreak: you don't use ubuntu?
[08:51] <Kevin`> astro76 the script that runs when the kernel image is installed, I mean
[08:51] <topicks> Gnome freezes too much of my POS computer
[08:51] <Kevin`> astro76 olpc
[08:51] <topicks> s/of/on/
[08:51] <puff> neopsyche: Port-forwarding.
[08:51] <khermans> neopsyche, man ssh
[08:51] <nano__> I would like to use fedora but the ubuntu support community is much larger so i stick with ubuntu
[08:51] <IndyGunFreak> nano__: yes, Ubuntu and Debian.. but I cut my teeth on Linux w/ Fedora.. several years ago. Fedora 5 was the last version I had
[08:51] <vwhydrowv> so what do i need to set it as?
[08:52] <khermans> nano__, you can also buy support from canonical
[08:52] <th0r> deostroll ok...type 'cd /opt'
[08:52] <astro76> Kevin`, ah well, sounds like you have some work no matter what ;)
[08:52] <topicks> i used red hat back in the day. once i learned about debian i never looked back
[08:52] <th0r> deostroll that should move you into the /opt directory
[08:52] <nano__> khermans: buying doesn't sound too attractive
[08:52] <deostroll> th0r: I typed sudo mv /home/ubuntu/Desktop/firefox /opt
[08:52] <neopsyche> thanks khermans
[08:52] <topicks> apt == good, rpm == evil
[08:52] <nano__> khermans: but yes im aware of that
[08:52] <khermans> neopsyche, np
[08:52] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well, if you want to serve it via apache, you want people to be able to read it, right?
[08:52] <th0r> deostroll ok...that will work
[08:52] <IndyGunFreak> topicks: same here, Debian just kills RH.. although fedora holds a special spot in my heart
[08:53] <vwhydrowv> yes
[08:53] <th0r> deostroll thought you said you didn't know command line <smile>
[08:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: "chmod ugo+w ./Drobo"
[08:53] <Kevin`> astro76 oh, it's running right now actually. still some more stuff to do but I needed to fix the error with updating first :)
[08:53] <astro76> Kevin`, well if you remove the kernel it won't be running for long
[08:53] <deostroll> th0r: yeah sometimes I surprise myself too. :)
[08:53] <topicks> yum isn't too bad. i use centos for my server
[08:53] <ompaul> is this #ubuntu-offtopic?
[08:53] <th0r> deostroll now...if you type '/opt/firefox/firefox' it should run the new firefox
[08:53] <ompaul> ;-)
[08:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: If that doesn't work, then we might be getting into arcane samba territory here, Idkanow, it might be you have to mess with samba configs or something to change the perms.
[08:53] <Kevin`> astro76 yeah,
[08:53] <Kalamansi> hello when i tried to run firestarter it say "failed to start the firewall the device eth0 is not ready" but im connected to the net and so with pc2...please help... i just want to block some sites who kills bandwidth like youtube and other video streaming online... thanks
[08:53] <Kevin`> astro76 yeah, I know =p
[08:53] <topicks> thats what OS this computer is running
[08:53] <deostroll> th0r: wait...checking.
[08:53] <IndyGunFreak> topicks: yeah, Yum isn't bad, but its not worth to hold apt-get's jockstrap
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> *worthy
[08:54] <shawnmstout> keeps coming back no such file or directory
[08:54] <deostroll> th0r: it says I should close a prev instance...
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> Kalamansi: do you have a router?  that would be an easy way to do that.
[08:55] <th0r> deostroll do you have firefox running?
[08:55] <deostroll> th0r: yeah.
[08:55] <Kalamansi> firestarter users please i need help.. firestarter failed to start firewall the device eth0 is not ready... tho server pc1 is connected to the net and pc2 too
[08:55] <th0r> deostroll yeah...you need to shut it down then type the command and see if th enew one comes up
[08:55] <deostroll> th0r: I am closing that...and running it again.
[08:55] <Kalamansi> IndyGunFreak : i dont have router. modem>server ubuntu>switch>pc2
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[08:56] <deostroll> th0r: ok this seems to be the latest version...
[08:56] <th0r> deostroll ok...now there is one small problem
[08:57] <Kalamansi> anybody here expert in firestarter or dansguardian? or which ever is cool to use for blocking website like online video streaming and traffic shaping please?
[08:57] <th0r> deostroll if you just type 'firefox' you will probably get the old version, and if you try from the menu you will probably get the old one...give them a go and see what happens. If it is a problem, we will fix it
[08:57] <mcquaid> with the latest Flash Player 9 Update 3 (Final), ver 9,0,115,0, adobe says this provides hardware accelerated fullscreen support for linux?
[08:57] <mcquaid> Does anyone actually get hardware scaling working?  It's always been choppy for me.
[08:57] <deostroll> th0r: yes I know...
[08:57] <mcquaid> I thought they'd solve it before it was out of beta, but I've always had this issue
[08:57] <IndyGunFreak> !firestarter | Kalamansi maybe this will help
[08:57] <ubotu> Kalamansi maybe this will help: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:58] <Kevin`> mcquaid with just flash or with any application
[08:58] <mcquaid> xv works fine with everything else, just flash
[08:58] <deostroll> th0r: what to do now?
[08:58] <mcquaid> Kevin`, only flash
[08:58] <puff> vwhydrowv: What happened?
[08:58] <th0r> deostroll fairly simple...first...type 'which firefox' and see what it says. I think it will respond /usr/bin/firefox
[08:58] <mcquaid> Kevin`, actually even flv plays accelerated in mplayer, so to be more correct only playing embedded video using adobe's plugin
[08:58] <vwhydrowv> its saying its a read only disk
[08:59] <vwhydrowv> and i cant change permissions on it
[08:59] <deostroll> th0r: true.
[08:59] <vwhydrowv> owner has only read and execute permission, no write permission
[08:59] <bqmassey> can someone do me a favor and type my name? i want to see if my client highlights it
[08:59] <vwhydrowv> group and others have no permissions
[09:00] <th0r> deostroll ok...two commands. First, type 'mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.old' Remember this command. if you ever want to restore the old version just copy firefox.old back to firefox
[09:00] <puff> vwhydrowv: joy...
[09:00] <ompaul> bqmassey, why ? ;-)
[09:00] <puff> vwhydrowv: I'll bet it's a samba thing.
[09:00] <bqmassey> bqmassey: thanks!
[09:00] <detectiveinspekt> hello
[09:00] <vwhydrowv> ok, so is there anything i can do?
[09:00] <puff> vwhydrowv: Try "sudo chmod ugo+w ./Drobo"
[09:00] <detectiveinspekt> how can i tell if my ethernet is running 10 or 100Mbit?
[09:01] <vwhydrowv> i did
[09:01] <th0r> deostroll sorry you need to sudo that command
[09:01] <puff> vwhydrowv: if that doesn't work,then it's some arcane samba thing.
[09:01] <vwhydrowv> it says no such file or directory
[09:01] <mcquaid> has anyone here installed the latest flash released in december?
[09:01] <deostroll> th0r: ok done that.
[09:01] <Kalamansi> IndyGunFreak : firestarter is already installed...i only need how to work this thing...
[09:01] <th0r> deostroll then type 'sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[09:01] <puff> vwhydrowv: you could copy the data to a local file, maybe.
[09:02] <vwhydrowv> too much data
[09:02] <vwhydrowv> 850gb
[09:02] <deostroll> th0r: whats that command for?
[09:02] <astro76> th0r, deostroll hmm if you just make the link in /usr/local/bin it will override what's in /usr/bin
[09:02] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, sudo mii-tool
[09:03] <th0r> astro76 that depends on the order in PATH....which comes first
[09:03] <astro76> th0r, I'm talking about Ubuntu's path setup
[09:03] <th0r> deostroll it creates a link in /usr/bin to the firefox executable...sort of a 'shortcut' (sorry Linus)
[09:03] <vwhydrowv> can anyone help me with this
[09:04] <vwhydrowv> i have read only access to a drive
[09:04] <deostroll> th0r: lemme go check nautilus...
[09:04] <th0r> astro76 I understand...but if the default is changed for some reason....then /usr/bin might come first
[09:04] <detectiveinspekt> ompaul i get "no MII interfaces found"
[09:04] <Entrophy> http://myex.ath.cx/?id=40b435b9
[09:04] <topicks> i should remove all my unwanted software before i upgrade next time because it upgrades all my installed software with the distro
[09:04] <vwhydrowv> <----panicking
[09:04] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, did you do sudo ?
[09:04] <puff> vwhydrowv: Hm, well I don't know beans about samba.
[09:04] <detectiveinspekt> im using onboard nforce2 ethernet drivers supposed "reversed engineerir drivers"
[09:04] <detectiveinspekt> yer
[09:05] <vwhydrowv> but thats set locally though also
[09:05] <vwhydrowv> not just samba
[09:05] <topicks> MII reminds me of Wii characters
[09:05] <puff> vwhydrowv: Maybe look at how you mounted the partition, see if there's anywhere in the process where you did (or could) specificy read perms.
[09:05] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, well I never came across a case where that mii-tool did not work except where the card was (A) not in place and (B) not supported
[09:06] <deostroll> th0r: when I do an ls I get text in green and cyan. What do they denote?
[09:06] <detectiveinspekt> oh yer it does say "SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported"
[09:06] <vwhydrowv> it automatically mounted when i connected the usb drive
[09:06] <th0r> deostroll different file types...green is executables, cyan is directories
[09:06] <snap> 大家好
[09:06] <puff> vwhydrowv: ah, USB drive...that'snot necessarly samba.
[09:06] <tonsofpcs> <3 unicode
[09:07] <tonsofpcs> snap: I'd try english in here
[09:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: Okay, so I may have a clue about this.
[09:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: what brand usb drive?
[09:07] <vwhydrowv> drobo
[09:07] <jasmeen> hello
[09:07] <detectiveinspekt> i am having through-put issues, works well from linux to windows but not linux to linux
[09:07] <snap> hello
[09:07] <deostroll> th0r: I thought I moved firefox to firefox.old.
[09:07] <jasmeen> plz any help me
[09:07] <deostroll> thor: it shows both.
[09:07] <th0r> deostroll if you do 'ls -l /usr/bin/firefox' you should see it pointing to /opt/firefox/firefox
[09:07] <jasmeen> plz any one help me
[09:08] <vwhydrowv> www.drobo.com
[09:08] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | jasmeen
[09:08] <ubotu> jasmeen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:08] <th0r> deostroll did you remember to use sudo to do the mv?
[09:08] <deostroll> th0r: I am in /usr/bin
[09:08] <puff> vwhydrowv: There's a command, "dmesg" that displays a log of a bunch of hardware related issues.  Check that for messages about your usb drive. If necessary, disconnect and reconnect it and check dmesg again.
[09:08] <puff> vwhydrowv: odds are you'll see a message in there about it mounting the usb drive read-only for some reason.
[09:08] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt,  dmesg | grep ethN << where N is the interface number
[09:09] <th0r> deostroll in /usr/bin do you see both firefox and firefox.old?
[09:09] <vwhydrowv> ok
[09:09] <deostroll> th0r: eyah
[09:09] <jasmeen> i hav airtel edge usb modem n i m using kubuntu os so that my modem is not connect in kubuntu so what can i do for that
[09:09] <th0r> deostroll  ok...and if you do 'ls -l /usr/bin/firefox' you should see something like 'firefox ==> /opt/firefox/firefox'
[09:09] <detectiveinspekt> [   80.081352] eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 010de:0c11 bound to 0000:00:04.0
[09:09] <detectiveinspekt> [  107.768676] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[09:10] <vwhydrowv> froze up
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> jasmeen: some USB modems are very difficult to get working w/ Ubuntu.
[09:10] <Jeah> Does anyone know a good IRC channel for in-depth but non-Ubuntu-related Linux support?
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> i wouldn't even begin to know where to tell you to start\
[09:10] <IndyGunFreak> Jeah: #linux
[09:10] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, guess you got to give it an ipv4 address then
[09:11] <puff> vwhydrowv: what froze up?
[09:11] <Jeah> IndyGunFreak: haha, obvious, thanks :)
[09:11] <deostroll> th0r: ok. That is a link. Right?
[09:11] <vwhydrowv> the computer
[09:11] <vwhydrowv> restarting now
[09:11] <IndyGunFreak> Jeah: :)
[09:11] <th0r> deostroll right...it is pointing to /opt/firefox/firefox
[09:11] <jasmeen> now what to do for that
[09:11] <neopsyche> Can someone please talk me through using torrents through ssh tunnel?
[09:12] <th0r> deostroll do you understand PATH?
[09:12] <detectiveinspekt> i get it through dhcp, does this make a difference to through put
[09:12] <detectiveinspekt> i was expecting around 9MB/s
[09:12] <deostroll> th0r: is it some env variable?
[09:12] <IndyGunFreak> jasmeen: what kind of modem is it?
[09:12] <puff> vwhydrowv: Hm, that's not good.
[09:12] <th0r> deostroll right...in the terminal type 'echo $PATH'
[09:12] <vwhydrowv> that fixed it
[09:13] <Jangari> dammit, i installed all the required files into the rom directory and nothing! anyone know anything about xmame??
[09:13] <detectiveinspekt> only get around 3
[09:13] <vwhydrowv> oh, no
[09:13] <deostroll> th0r: No, seriously I never knew it. Damn I am genius.
[09:13] <vwhydrowv> only read access for owner group and others
[09:13] <jasmeen> it is Airtel edge USB modem
[09:13] <vwhydrowv> no other permissions
[09:13] <tuntun> Hi... How do i extract a file do its originaly location using archive manager?
[09:13] <th0r> deostroll when you type 'firefox' in the terminal the system goes through the path directories in order looking for firefox. You will see that /opt is not in the path. So we needed to create a link somewhere in the path so tye system could find firefox
[09:14] <deostroll> th0r: which dir should I be in at the moment?
[09:14] <neopsyche> can someone please help me with bittorrent?
[09:14] <th0r> deostroll doesn't matter
[09:14] <deostroll> th0r: what does path do?
[09:14] <ompaul> !repeat | neopsyche
[09:14] <ubotu> neopsyche: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:14] <deostroll> th0r: *hold
[09:14] <th0r> deostroll read the long entry above <smile>
[09:14] <tuntun> How do i extract a file do its originaly location using archive manager?
[09:15] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, how big are the files you are transferring?
[09:15] <detectiveinspekt> 700MB
[09:15] <detectiveinspekt> all of them
[09:16] <detectiveinspekt> about 80
[09:16] <jasmeen> and just now i installed kubuntu in my system so how can i connect that modem with kubuntu
[09:16] <vwhydrowv> wait, i think i know what it is
[09:16] <vwhydrowv> because its ntfs system, its read only
[09:16] <puff> Ah, that's what I was suspecting.
[09:16] <ompaul> detectiveinspekt, so what I think is that you have to do some work on your mtu and or check your wiring and make sure the network is not being used for anything else
[09:16] <deostroll> I am in /usr/bin now and I did echo $PATH I got something huge. Do u want me to paste it here
[09:16] <neopsyche> doesn anyone here know how to get an ssh shell account?
[09:16] <jasmeen> without internet i cant download drivers also
[09:16] <AK-WIN> meeeeee
[09:16] <th0r> deostroll no need (and never paste into irc...use pastebin)
[09:16] <vwhydrowv> anyway to have read/write access?
[09:17] <th0r> deostroll  it should be just a list of folders separated by colons
[09:17] <deostroll> th0r: that makes sense.
[09:17] <detectiveinspekt> ok thank you v much, ill see into the mtu stuff
[09:17] <ompaul> neopsyche, after installing ssh locally and remotely ssh -C username@farmachine(which is IP or Hostname)
[09:17] <IndyGunFreak> jasmeen: you'll probably have to downloda them in Windows, save them to some sort of media, and open them in ubuntu.
[09:18] <deostroll> th0r: now why did u tell me abt PATH?
[09:18] <tuntun> !ntfs
[09:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[09:18] <IndyGunFreak> !modem | jasmeen try reading through this..
[09:18] <ubotu> jasmeen try reading through this..: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:18] <th0r> deostroll  so you would understand why we needed to create a link in /usr/bin to the firefox executable
[09:18] <tuntun> gutsy has ntfs writing doesn't it?
[09:18] <ompaul> !ntfs | tuntun
[09:18] <ubotu> tuntun: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[09:19] <vwhydrowv> i have ntfs-3g
[09:19] <tuntun> ompaul^^
[09:19] <jasmeen> ok
[09:19] <puff> vwhydrowv: yeah. For starts, "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g"
[09:19] <shadix> how do i install a nick theme?
[09:19] <nikolam> !UDF
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <shadix> by nick i mean icon :P
[09:19] <tuntun> How do i extract a file do its originaly location using archive manager?
[09:19] <deostroll> th0r: PATH does not show links.
[09:20] <puff> vwhydrowv: and "sudo aptitude install ntfs-config"
[09:20] <deostroll> th0r: so we created one.
[09:20] <tuntun> How do i extract a file to its original location with archive manager?
[09:20] <deostroll> th0r: I am a little slow. I hope you are patient.
[09:20] <tuntun> :|
[09:20] <th0r> deostroll let's assume for a moment that the ONLY firefox on your hard drive is in /opt/firefox. Now, you click on the menu or type 'firefox' in the terminal and the system goes to the first dir in the path looking for firefox
[09:20] <vwhydrowv> installing
[09:21] <th0r> deostroll but it doesn't find it. So it goes to the second dir in the path, and then the third and so on. And notice, the directory /opt/firefox is NOT in the path...so the system will never look there and will never find it.
[09:21] <Grammaticus> The answer is probably 'no', but does anyone here use dial-up?
[09:22] <vwhydrowv> couldnt find any package ntfs-config
[09:22] <tuntun> can i extract a file to its original location with archive manager?
[09:22] <th0r> deostroll but now...with the link....when it looks in /usr/bin (which IS in the path)  the system finds 'firefox'...and that firefox says 'go to /opt/firefox/firefox'
[09:22] <deostroll> th0r: clear. !
[09:23] <sigra> i have my computer in no login but up mode..but its hanging at the screen where brown and about log into desktop..is there way to turn off auto login
[09:23] <th0r> deostroll good...there will be a test later
[09:23] <deostroll> th0r: OMG.
[09:23] <th0r> deostroll so now...check and make sure if you click on firefox in the menu you get the new one
[09:23] <deostroll> th0r: whtz the prize?!
[09:24] <deostroll> th0r: firefox is good.
[09:24] <th0r> deostroll the prize will be comensurate with the salary of the teacher
[09:24] <puff> vwhydrowv: That's odd... are you sure you typed it right?
[09:25] <nvictor> how can I remove a folder which is not empty?
[09:25] <ICQnumber> howto run an aplication in alt+f2 window as root
[09:25] <khermans> nvictor, rm -rf
[09:25] <nvictor> thanks
[09:25] <khermans> nvictor, np
[09:25] <th0r> nvictor be very very careful
[09:25] <catalytic> gutsy ati radeon 9550 world of pain
[09:25] <deostroll> th0r: man. One day's salary for learnin! Cool.
[09:25] <catalytic> I do not have Xgl installed
[09:25] <tuntun> can i extract a file to its original location with archive manager?
[09:25] <deostroll> th0r: thanx dude.
[09:26] <th0r> deostroll any time...enjoy
[09:26] <vwhydrowv> i typed in sudo aptitude install ntfs-config
[09:26]  * Grammaticus believes that no one has knowledge of 56k modem configuration?
[09:26] <khermans> tuntun, sure
[09:26] <deostroll> th0r: this exercise was a breeze...thnax 2 u
[09:26] <tuntun> khermans: where's that option?
[09:26] <th0r> :)
[09:26] <astro76> !dialup | Grammaticus
[09:26] <ubotu> Grammaticus: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[09:26] <ICQnumber> howto run an aplication in alt+f2 window as root
[09:26] <sigra> well networking theses 2 ubuntu systems will take a scientist. I give up.  movie time
[09:26] <khermans> tuntun, is this file-roller ?
[09:27] <astro76> ICQnumber, gksudo command
[09:27] <catalytic> I used the new restricted drivers manager and now it broke my graphics
[09:27] <khermans> tuntun, if so you can just drag it
[09:27] <ICQnumber> astro76, k ty
[09:27] <Grammaticus> I've been reading quite a bit... My modem is a Sony OEM, on the mother-board -- it seems as if this will be difficukt.
[09:27] <catalytic> if i run fglrxinfo
[09:27] <catalytic> and get
[09:27] <matholum> anyone know anything about file/folder permissions?
[09:28] <Grammaticus> *difficult
[09:28] <khermans> !permissions | matholum
[09:28] <ubotu> matholum: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[09:28] <astro76> matholum, I'm sure lots of us do
[09:28] <catalytic> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:28] <catalytic> whats happened?
[09:28] <puff> vwhydrowv: Hm.
[09:28] <matholum> lol... it was my shorthand of reminding ppl my question
[09:28] <puff> vwhydrowv: What verison of ubuntu are you on?
[09:29] <Grammaticus> astro76, I'm on vacation -- there is no cable or DSL here.
[09:29] <sigra> i must be a scientist.  it worked on last try lol
[09:29] <matholum> i have a folder on another partition that says the owner is root but i can't change the owner even as root... right now my account only has read acces
[09:29] <matholum> can anyone help me out?
[09:29] <vwhydrowv> server edition
[09:29] <khermans> matholum, is it mounted read-only or perhaps it is fat, and wont let you modify permissions
[09:29] <tuntun> khermans: archive manager
[09:29] <vwhydrowv> newest longterm support one
[09:29] <chazco> Can anyone tell me if there is an apt-get command which does the same as installing nvidia from the restricted drivers manager?
[09:30] <khermans> tuntun, i only know how to do it with tar in the command line
[09:30] <astro76> Grammaticus, which I assume is why you need dial-up, but you are on the internet now
[09:30] <matholum> it is fat... is there anything i can do?
[09:30] <Grammaticus> Does anyone know the name of the programme that analyzes one's hardware and lists the specifications?
[09:30] <Grammaticus> astro76, I have a dual boot -- I'm currently on Windows.
[09:30] <khermans> chazco, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new ?
[09:30] <khermans> matholum, then the permissions shouldn't matter
[09:30] <khermans> matholum, man mount, check out the umask option
[09:30] <chazco> khermans - If thats the package and thats all it does then thats perfect (I use apt-get, but easy to modify) :)
[09:30] <matholum> @_@ but.... i can't do anything
[09:30] <astro76> Grammaticus, ok then really not sure what the problem is, did the dialup howto link that ubotu gave you not help?
[09:31] <khermans> chazco, restricted-drivers-manager auto detrmines the appropriate driver
[09:31] <matholum> khermans> what do you mean.. i have never done that before
[09:31] <khermans> chazco, i am not sure you need -new or not
[09:31] <dell_lin> how to install a driver from source and install it
[09:31] <puff>  vwhydrowv: enter "lsb_release -a"
[09:31] <matholum> i get unmount...
[09:31] <Grammaticus> astro76, I've been there reading but, according to the site : '... built into motherboard. Most of these are not supported under Linux, yet quite a few work after extensive tweaking or purchasing drivers.'
[09:31] <chazco> Ah... that makes it more complicated... trying to build a restore script
[09:31]  * chazco looks at the apt-cache
[09:32] <khermans> dell_lin, download it, run the installler
[09:32] <dell_lin> installer ?
[09:32] <dell_lin> how
[09:32] <ab434435> !persistent
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <khermans> chazco, restore script?
[09:32] <astro76> Grammaticus, try lspci
[09:32] <ab434435> !livepersistent
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about livepersistent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <khermans> chazco, you know about dpkg --get-selections ?
[09:32] <chazco> khermans - After a fresh install I run it and it reinstalls everything and configures stuff
[09:32] <vwhydrowv> ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[09:32] <Cubexombi> I've just installed a dual boot 7.10/7.10 with a separate /home partition, though when ever I start into the build I installed first I have to manually mount the /dev/hda3 /home partion in order to continue.. everything works great past that though.. any idea?
[09:33] <chazco> According to apt i have the -new version of nvidia khermans
[09:33] <dell_lin> i have .c files (source files )
[09:33] <khermans> chazco, dpkg --set/get-selections
[09:33] <khermans> dell_lin, make?
[09:33] <chazco> ?
[09:33] <khermans> chazco, man dpkg
[09:33] <puff> vwhydrowv: codename?
[09:33] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend?
[09:34] <chazco> I mean what do you want me to do with it? I can find out which packages I have from synaptic...
[09:34] <puff> vwhydrowv: That may be the issue, you might need feisty to get ntfs-config.
[09:34] <momal> Hey I am wondering if there is a website or something that lists applications for ubuntu that currently dont have a 64bit version.
[09:34] <Grammaticus> astrp76, lspci?
[09:34] <puff> vwhydrowv: why are you running server version?
[09:34] <momal> or a method to get them to work on x64
[09:34] <vwhydrowv> dapper
[09:34] <astro76> Grammaticus, to list your hardware
[09:34] <dell_lin> ok
[09:34] <vwhydrowv> because i set this up for a server
[09:34] <Grammaticus> astro76, Ah, thank you.
[09:34] <matholum> khermans> awesome... thanks to your proper wording i think i found a good page to help me out.... i'll let you know if it works
[09:34] <vwhydrowv> but i guess that didnt matter considering i added on the gui
[09:34] <khermans> chazco, you use it to capture and set your installed packages
[09:35] <khermans> matholum, np
[09:35] <astro76> Grammaticus, also lshw
[09:35] <chazco> Ah... its not just stuff like that though
[09:35] <Grammaticus> astro76, No wait -- I would like something for Windows for the time being.
[09:35] <chazco> Theres a lot of configuring I always have to do... TV card for a start and a few others
[09:35] <matholum> (i just didn't know what i was looking for i guess... ^_^)
[09:35] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well, idkanow what to say here, 6.06 is dapper, it doesn't have ntfs-config available.  hm.
[09:35] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend? Can't seem to find the option...
[09:35] <Grammaticus> astro76, So that I could glean all of the information here without rebooting.
[09:35] <khermans> chazco, backup your /etc/ and /home folders then
[09:35] <astro76> Grammaticus, I think there's a hardware control panel, but ask in #windows
[09:35] <puff> vwhydrowv: It sounds like you want to upgrade your box to ubuntu feisty.
[09:36] <puff> vwhydrowv: Or higher.
[09:36] <Cubexombi> can someone help me get my /hd3 partition to automount on boot, it contains my /home dir,
[09:36] <topicks> gibbon!
[09:36] <chazco> khermans - Still not ideal (although /home is separate anyway, but I tend to clear out folders)... This way works well, except for the nvidia driver.
[09:36] <astro76> Grammaticus, http://www.gtopala.com/
[09:36] <vwhydrowv> ok, is there a way to do that without starting over?
[09:36] <puff> vwhydrowv: http://lunapark6.com/ntfs-3g-read-write-ntfs-drives-on-your-linux-box.html
[09:37] <puff> vwhydrowv: Yeah, you can add the repository in that tutorial to your apt sources.
[09:37] <khermans> chazco, then just /etc
[09:37] <puff> vwhydrowv: This is not an entirely scary thing to do, but it does take you on the road less traveled.
[09:37] <Grammaticus> astro76, I remember the name of the programme now : Sandra
[09:37] <khermans> chazco, you can tar it up and restore only the files you need
[09:37] <vwhydrowv> that alone sounds scary, lol
[09:38] <astro76> Cubexombi, from the system with separate /home, copy the home entry from /etc/fstab to the other system's fstab, then delete the contents of the other systems /home
[09:38] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well it's not a "safe" thing to do but its
[09:38] <puff> vwhydrowv: Well it's not a "safe" thing to do but it's not insane, either.
[09:38] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend? I Can't find the option...
[09:38] <astro76> Cubexombi, not sure why you want to run two 7.10s with one /home though
[09:38] <astro76> Grammaticus, the one I linked is good
[09:38] <puff> vwhydrowv: Especially consdiering they added ntfs-3 to the main apt repos for later versions.
[09:38] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo sed -i "s/dapper/gutsy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:38] <Grammaticus> astro76, I shall attempt to use both.
[09:39] <bullgard4> What does 'cgen' stand for, for example in http://sourceware.org/cgen/gen-doc/frv-2.html?
[09:39] <Grammaticus> This will take some time...
[09:39] <Cubexombi> astro76,  2 reasons, 1, I'm a bit lazy and kinda tired of having to reconfigure things, and the second is that I came in here earlier and some one suggested it .
[09:39] <Grammaticus> astro76, Thank you -- it is much appreciated. Perhaps I will return on Ubuntu if I figure this out.
[09:40] <matholum> khermans> what are the values of umask for? what do they mean?
[09:40] <vwhydrowv> khermans, thanks
[09:40] <khermans> vwhydrowv, np
[09:41] <vwhydrowv> came back update command takes no arguments
[09:41] <astro76> Cubexombi, how does it help, what was the problem?
[09:41] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you must have typed it wrong
[09:41] <vwhydrowv> yup, i put sudo before it
[09:42] <khermans> !umask | matholum
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend? I Can't find the option...
[09:42] <vwhydrowv> couldnt open temorary file /etc/apt//sedBecka1
[09:42] <vwhydrowv> 1 sec
[09:42] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you typed it wrong
[09:42] <vwhydrowv> must of did something else wrong
[09:42] <khermans> vwhydrowv, just copy and past
[09:42] <Cubexombi> astro76, i kinda want to keep the /home info from the other user on there, I'm using the second install as a platorm for remastering the live CD into a USB drive, it works fine for that reason,  though, as i said someone just suggested it as a good idea due to my space restraints.
[09:43] <vwhydrowv> ok
[09:43] <vwhydrowv> i cant though, different computer
[09:43] <vwhydrowv> 1 sec, let me log into that one
[09:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, use ssh if you must
[09:43] <vwhydrowv> im pretty new man, how do i do that
[09:44] <khermans> !ssh | vwhydrowv
[09:44] <ubotu> vwhydrowv: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:44] <shadix> ok i got it thanks
[09:45] <puff> vwhydrowv: whoa.
[09:46] <puff> vwhydrowv: What khermans is suggesting is essentially wholesale upgrading your box to gutsy (you're on dapper, next is feisty, after that gutsy). If that's what you want to do, then go for it.
[09:46] <vwhydrowv> got it
[09:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you can also try --> sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:46] <puff> vwhydrowv: Actually I'd generally recommend upgrading, if you can deal with it, rather than selectively installing ntfs-3g.
[09:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, but i dont think dapper has that feature
[09:46] <tuntun> how do i disable the login window after resuming from suspend?
[09:46] <Cubexombi> astro76, I'm going for a reboot after coping the fstab over to the problematic install, we'll see how this goes
[09:46] <vwhydrowv> i should wait for this to install first right?
[09:47] <puff> khermans: Back when, I was told that it was a Bad Idea to upgrade by skipping over a version.
[09:47] <puff> khermans: Is that not true for dapper->feisty->gutzy?
[09:47] <khermans> tuntun, is there something in /etc/acpi/ ?
[09:47] <khermans> puff, yeah -- it could be -- but it seemed like he wanted to do it
[09:47] <khermans> puff, i have done it without issues
[09:48] <tuntun> khermans: plenty of things.
[09:48] <khermans> puff, i even have gone from debian -> ubuntu this way
[09:48] <puff> khermans: Heh.
[09:48] <puff> cool by me.
[09:48] <khermans> :-p
[09:48] <puff> vwhydrowv: I've gotta hit the sack, good luck.
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> if i have issues, i can always just redoe the computer, i hate to make the whole day a waste though
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> considering its almost 5am
[09:48] <khermans> tuntun, check the suspend script?
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> ok thanks puff
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> for everything man
[09:48] <vwhydrowv> i really appreciate it
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> i gotta go take a break myself while this is upgrading
[09:49] <___> hey people!
[09:49] <tuntun> khermans: whats it called?
[09:49] <___> i have this machine, that has a single cpu. top shows a load average of 2 and 35% idle time. how can that be? if on average 2 processes are waiting to be executed, how can the machine have 35% idle time?
[09:49] <puff> vwhydrowv: One thing before I go... hopefully drobo is better about this than my laCie drive; somebody was using the laCie drive on windows and didn't do a 'safely unmount USB drive' before shutting down windows, which left the laCie drive in a problem state.
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> puff, dude
[09:49] <vwhydrowv> lacie sucks ass man, backup asap
[09:49] <puff> vwhydrowv: It ended up being simplest to just plug the laCie drive into a winbox and do the 'safely unmount' thing.
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> thats why i have a drobo now
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: Ooookay.
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> how many power supplies have u replaced?
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: good to know :-).
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> the i/o boards go out also and they wont let you buy one if its out of warranty
[09:50] <khermans> tuntun, check out /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: On the laCies?  None.  Then again, I have four of them.
[09:50] <Ayabara> is debs for the latest FF3.0 beta somewhere to be found?
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> they dont even know who makes the chips on there i/o board
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> total nightmare
[09:50] <puff> vwhydrowv: Thanks for the tip. How much is the drobo?
[09:50] <vwhydrowv> there support sucks
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> 450
[09:51] <tuntun> khermans: ok what am i looking for?
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> but alot of advantages
[09:51] <puff> I might get one of those, then.
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> plus 100% data protection
[09:51] <khermans> tuntun, i see something about xscreensaver in there -- not sure if that will work
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> has an os and smart raid array
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> very nice
[09:51] <vwhydrowv> no fragmenting across drives
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> just take out and upgrade whenever u want, doesnt matter the drive type
[09:52] <tuntun> khermans: "if [ x$LOCK_SCREEN = xtrue ]; then" ?
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> light indications on health of drives and when they are getting full
[09:52] <puff> vwhydrowv: I'd like to read osmething a bit more technically oriented about it than their site.
[09:52] <god-minus-one> ok, let me try again.
[09:52] <khermans> tuntun, is this password it asks for xscreensaver ?
[09:52] <god-minus-one> I have this machine, that has a single cpu. top shows a load average of 2 and 35% idle time. how can that be? if on average 2 processes are waiting to be executed, how can the machine have 35% idle time?
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> www.drobo.com   they have a forum
[09:52] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys! Anyone ever used this Gnome Symple file sharing applet ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - I am desporate to know if it works.
[09:52] <vwhydrowv> but im telling you, i was 1 month down because of lacie
[09:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: Good to know.
[09:53] <khermans> tuntun, i am not sure how to di this, sorry :-(
[09:53] <puff> vwhydrowv: Any suggestions for mass backup devices?
[09:53] <vwhydrowv> try rebuilding an array you have no idea about, no chipset to reference, no idea what type of format they setup as the core
[09:53] <tuntun> khermans: ok :)
[09:53] <vwhydrowv> drobo man, im telling you, best i have seen or read about
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> 1 drobo can be scalable up to 8TB
[09:54] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys! Anyone ever used this Gnome Symple file sharing applet ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - Seems to exactly what I am looking for! A simple web-based file sharing server for Gnome! Do you know any other simmilar programs ??? PLS
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> just slide in the sata drives
[09:54] <vwhydrowv> and it does the work for you, no more raid configuration
[09:55] <puff> vwhydrowv: I meant offline backup, e.g. tape drives, etc.
[09:55] <puff> Okay, I gotta crash. I leave you in kherman's hands :-).
[09:55] <vwhydrowv> ok, night man
[09:55] <vwhydrowv> offline i use 750gb sata removables
[09:55] <pibarnas> Which is the config line for xorg to use nvidia restricted driver which prevents if from looping when gdm starts?
[09:56] <osfameron> gosh.  the liveCD really does take a long time to start up
[09:56] <matholum> khermans, i set the umask to 000... i don't know if that is secure, but i can edit the folders and files even though the owner is still root (and i can't change that either)... but hey, it works ^_^ thanks
[09:56] <osfameron> that or the default setting is to install without asking me to repartition, which would be rather odd (and a little annoying)
[09:56] <vwhydrowv> kherman, pretty long install that im looking at?
[09:57] <khermans> matholum, np
[09:57] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yup!
[09:57] <vwhydrowv> ok, im going to bed then
[09:58] <vwhydrowv> its 2 minutes to 5am here
[09:58] <vwhydrowv> thanks alot
[09:58] <matholum> i have a weird question now... i have a symlink to a documents folder on a seperate partition that acts as my home/Documents folder.... can i do that to the Desktop folder too?
[09:58] <mhiku> which is the best existing open source vnc?
[10:00] <khermans> vwhydrowv, np dude :-)
[10:00] <matholum> vwhydrowv, same here... ^_^ cya
[10:00] <vwhydrowv> night all
[10:00] <Gpalco> Anyone ever used this Gnome Web Sharing ??? - http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Web_Sharing - Need oppinion !!!
[10:00] <matholum> (i'm not leaving... i meant 5 here too... lol)
[10:00] <khermans> matholum, ln -s ?
[10:00] <vwhydrowv> btw...check out my monitor setup    www.computersolutionswv.com  top flash banner
[10:01] <vwhydrowv> looks like something from nasa
[10:01] <matholum> i am afraid to do that though cuz i don't think it will let you delete the current desktop folder.... i tried it once and it was just stuck in the trash and didn't switch over
[10:01] <bullgard4> Synaptic writes: "mdadm is a program that can be used to create, manage, and monitor MD arrays (e.g. software RAID, multipath devices)." What is an MD array?
[10:02] <void^> "multi disk"
[10:02] <vwhydrowv> is it hd arrays
[10:02] <khermans> bullgard4, mdadm is used for software RAID
[10:02] <khermans> !mdadm | bullgard4
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <khermans> :-(
[10:02] <matholum> if i could kill the desktop folder it'd work.....
[10:03] <khermans> matholum, ?
[10:03] <khermans> matholum, ln -sf ?
[10:04] <bullgard4> khermans: I have read that mdadm is used for software RAID. --  I wonder what an MD array is.
[10:04] <matholum> khermans> i deleted the Desktop folder to create the symlink and it never died... instead my desktop ran out of home/.trash/Desktop
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> i think its done
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> how can i check
[10:04] <puff> vwhydrowv: Oh hell, if I'd know you were a wv boy I wouldn't have helped you :-).
[10:04] <puff> vwhydrowv: Just kidding.
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> lol
[10:04] <puff> khermans: He should be able to pre-cache the files for the upgrade, right?
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> where u from puff?
[10:04] <puff> khermans: Using the aptitude --download-only option?
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> how can i check on the upgrade
[10:04] <khermans> bullgard4, sudo aptitude install wikipedia2text && wikipedia2text mdadm
[10:04] <ethan961_> maybe try removing it with rm -r (using sudo if nessisary) and then restarting X
[10:04] <vwhydrowv> i stopped sending commands
[10:05] <puff> vwhydrowv: Pittsburgh.
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> dude, im only 1.5 hrs away from u
[10:05] <khermans> puff, with --deownload, yes
[10:05] <puff> vwhydrowv: How much free space do you have?
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> u know where wheeling, wv is?
[10:05] <matholum> i'm in columbus.... so not too far either
[10:05] <khermans> vwhydrowv, im in Boston :-)
[10:05] <vwhydrowv> on the linux system?
[10:06] <mhiku> theres majority of open source vnc there, which is the best?
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> no about 3.5 hrs matholum
[10:06] <khermans> mhiku, tightvnc imho
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> used to live in both columbus and pittsburgh
[10:06] <Kalamansi> hello how to use dhcp? modem>server ubuntu>switch > pc2.. pc2 is already connected with the ip of the server's nic2 and the gateway assigned  thru it.. how to obtain pc2 without assigning an ip and gateway and subnet?
[10:06] <matholum> oh... i thought it was closer.... lol
[10:06] <vwhydrowv> went to itt tech in pittsburgh and devry in columbus
[10:06] <helloyo> is there a way that i can run apps as another user? they can't connect to the xserver
[10:06] <matholum> LOL i am going to devry right now
[10:06] <matholum> i am from dayton though
[10:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: So basically do hat kherman said, only "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade --download-only" and hit the sack, it'll download all the files you need for the upgrade but not actually do anything.
[10:07] <khermans> Kalamansi, reprhrase
[10:07] <vwhydrowv> is alum creek and livingston still a hooker hangout?
[10:07] <puff> vwhydrowv: I was born in columbus, on the AFB.
[10:07] <puff> alum creek?
[10:07] <puff> Oh, dayton.
[10:07] <khermans> helloyo, su -c ?
[10:07] <bullgard4> khermans: Thank you for you answer. It helped me to view my problem from another aspect, and thus I found the solution.
[10:07] <puff> Okay, goodnight all.
[10:07] <helloyo> khermans: i'll try it out, thanks
[10:07] <matholum> lol... kinda
[10:08] <matholum> mainly hobos
[10:08] <khermans> bullgard4, np dude :-)
[10:08] <Return0> how can I find out what speed my network device is working at?
[10:08] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:08] <khermans> helloyo, good luck!
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> i used to live on east side of columbus by courtwright and petzinger
[10:08] <osfameron> does the ubuntu live CD have a minimum free HD space requirement?
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> but the eastland mall
[10:08] <khermans> Return0, sudo aptitude install nload ?
[10:08] <osfameron> my current partitioning is rubbish, the w2k setup barely works
[10:08] <Return0> I've got a PS3 running ubuntu, but the network speed seems really slow, I was wondering if it's in some weird 10baseT mode
[10:08] <matholum> i am in reynoldsburg
[10:08] <vwhydrowv> and up in pittsburgh on 28 near etna
[10:08] <osfameron> but ubuntu doesn't seem to want to actually boot in order to let me repartition
[10:09] <khermans> osfameron, i bleive 2GB
[10:09] <vwhydrowv> ok not too far from there math
[10:09] <matholum> nope
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: eeeek!
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: on the C: partition?
[10:09] <khermans> Return0, ifconfig shoudl show you
[10:09] <Return0> ah
[10:09] <helloyo> khermans: ah, no luck, still "cannot open display"
[10:09] <vwhydrowv> i hated columbus though, crime was aweful when i lived there
[10:09] <Return0> what setting am I looking at?
[10:09] <osfameron> khermans: cos if so, I'm in trouble.  There's only 1/2 Gb on C:, and it's all full
[10:09] <khermans> osfameron, there is no C: partition in ubuntu ... heh
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: ok, I mean *free* disk space
[10:10] <khermans> helloyo, thats a problem with X, try --> export DISPLAY-:0.0
[10:10] <matholum> cwhydrowv, i hated it when i lived in hiliard... and crime was bad there... but i love reynoldsburg
[10:10] <khermans> then retry
[10:10] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:10] <khermans> DISPLAY=:0.0
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: I mean ubuntu to take all of it when done, but it's not booting up to the bit where I can get to repartition the drive
[10:10] <vwhydrowv> reynoldsburg has always been nice
[10:10] <khermans> osfameron, for resizing windows?
[10:10] <vwhydrowv> outside of the city
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: I want to wipe windows
[10:10] <helloyo> khermans: ah ok, will do
[10:10] <khermans> osfameron, oh just delete windows then
[10:10] <matholum> ya.... it is quiet too
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: as my win setup is totally messed up anyway
[10:10] <ScottNail> hey guys - i need some help :( - i have fluxbuntu running on an old pc, i need to install my wirelessusb dev. i had problems and messed the whole thing up so I have reinstalled and started from scratch :)
[10:10] <osfameron> khermans: do I have to delete windows before booting the liveCD?
[10:11] <vwhydrowv> i used to live by greenbriar apartments, dont know if you heard of them but it was nicknamed uzi alley
[10:11] <khermans> osfameron, nope -- in the livecd installer, just choose Delete All Data
[10:11] <khermans> or whateve rthe  option is
[10:11] <Kalamansi> khermans: how to set pc2 to have internet directly by not assigning an ip,subnet and dns?
[10:11] <matholum> lol... i've never heard of em
[10:11] <vwhydrowv> allegheny ave, near the airport
[10:11] <khermans> Kalamansi, you mean staticly assing the network parameters?
[10:12] <osfameron> khermans: ok - that's what I thought.  I'll try again, but the LiveCD wouldn't boot up last time - just got to screen with mouse pointer and creamy background and stayed there for 15 minutes with no feedback :-(
[10:12] <Kalamansi> khermans: i dont want to expose my dns. im not sure if it is advisable to put the dns of my isp
[10:12] <matholum> there is alot of references to things that i dunno cuz i'm not from around here ^_^
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> done
[10:12] <khermans> osfameron, try safe mode graphics?
[10:12] <Nikster> Im running ubuntu 7.10, i have flashplugin-nonfree installed and flash (youtube i.e) does not work, any reason? gives me an error stating i have javascript turned off or an old flashplayer
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> what command do i use to verify upgrade?
[10:12] <osfameron> khermans: ok - will that let me install too?
[10:12] <vwhydrowv> there was something puff told me before
[10:12] <khermans> Kalamansi, you can firewall it off right?
[10:12] <Kalamansi> khermans: assigning ip each pcs ( 40 pcs) is kinda time consuming...
[10:12]  * ScottNail is getting tired
[10:12] <khermans> !flash | Nikster
[10:12] <ubotu> Nikster: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:12] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:12] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:13] <khermans> Kalamansi, well then you dhcp!
[10:13] <Kalamansi> khermans: what i want my workstations is just obtain dhcp.
[10:13] <Kalamansi> khermans: how?
[10:13] <vwhydrowv> !version | vwhydrowv
[10:13] <khermans> Kalamansi, do you have a DHCP server or home router which does this?
[10:13] <vwhydrowv> err, dont work for me
[10:13] <Nikster> How long will it take for a fix?
[10:13] <khermans> Nikster, you can get the fix in -proposed
[10:13] <khermans> !proposed | Nikster
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proposed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <mkquist> osfameron - wut u trying to do?
[10:13] <khermans> !repositories | Nikster
[10:13] <ubotu> Nikster: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:14] <Kalamansi> khermans: my firestarter still wont run tho. tho its installed. and im not sure if dhcp is running tho i installed it already. and i dont have a router tho. just server ubuntu 7.10
[10:14] <vwhydrowv> ok still says dapper as the version
[10:14] <matholum> (i am using pidgn... anyone have any idea what the colors mean... i take it gold is someone talking to you...)
[10:14] <khermans> Kalamansi, so ubuntu server would be your DHCP right?
[10:14] <vwhydrowv> do i need to reboot first
[10:14] <Kalamansi> yes khermans:
[10:14] <ubuntu__> hi everyone
[10:14] <enigma_> Buongiorno a tutti c'è qlcuno italiano?
[10:14] <smmagic> Hello, When I try to check if I have direct rendering, I get this error http://pastebin.ca/842352 How do I fix it?
[10:15] <Kalamansi> my nic 2 is 192.168.2.1..my pc2 is using 102.168.2.2
[10:15] <Kalamansi> khermans: my nic 2 is 192.168.2.1..my pc2 is using 102.168.2.2
[10:15] <^> trying to use ICQ with pidgin, but can't connect to login server. Any ideas?
[10:15] <khermans> Kalamansi, can you not just set the DHCP server on 192.168.2.1 ?
[10:16] <topicks> woohoo gibbon is done installing
[10:16] <Dyus> is there a specific channel for overclocking questions?
[10:16] <Kalamansii> hi
[10:16] <Kalamansi> sec
[10:16] <khermans> Kalamansii, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:17] <khermans> !dhcpd | Kalamansii
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <ethan961> da gibbon got gutz
[10:17] <Return0> so looking at ifconfig how can I tell what speed my network supports?
[10:17] <vwhydrowv> wow, that slowed down ubuntu majorly
[10:17] <Ayabara> is there a good (gui) batch renamer for gnome out there?
[10:17] <Kalamansi> khermans : is there any cheat sheet for that dhcp?
[10:18] <khermans> Return0, your NIC is probably autosensing
[10:18] <khermans> Kalamansi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:18] <Return0> I'd hope so
[10:18] <Return0> it's a PS3...
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, i saw one once!
[10:18] <Return0> dunno what it has in there but it seemed slow copying from my pc
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, but i like sed :-)
[10:18] <khermans> Ayabara, check out the rename command
[10:19] <Ayabara> khermans, I have an alias for lowercasing stuff using rename, but that's about all the regexp I know :-)
[10:19] <khermans> Ayabara, sudo aptitude install gprename pyrenamer renameutils
[10:19] <ubuntu__> asup
[10:19] <khermans> Ayabara, pick on from above
[10:19] <Kalamansi> khermans : how to know if i have already dhcp installed? (which is i already downloaded or installed it lately)
[10:20] <khermans> Kalamansi, dhcpd, not dhcp
[10:20] <Ayabara> khermans, thanks
[10:20] <khermans> Kalamansi, aptitude search dhcp
[10:20] <khermans> look for an 'i' in the first column
[10:20] <khermans> Ayabara, np
[10:21] <Kalamansi> khermans : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon  -- i dont understand this.. its not english =/
[10:21] <khermans> Kalamansi, still gives an diea for scommands to run
[10:22] <Kalamansi> khermans : do i need to install it again? sudo apt-get install dhcp ?
[10:22] <matholum> ...that was weird.... my internet bugged out
[10:22] <matholum> oh, rosegarden... could someone tell me how do i fix the system timer? is it hard?
[10:22] <khermans> Kalamansi, no just once
[10:22] <matholum> my internet just bugged out so i'll try it again...
[10:22] <vwhydrowv> khermans, its not starting now, says it cant load a font "fixed" so its not loading the gui
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what cant start?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> the gui
[10:23] <matholum> does anyone know what to do to fix the system timer for rosegarden?
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, oh what program?
[10:23]  * syc_ mohon pamid
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> fatal server error
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, or is it gnome?
[10:23]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:23] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what happened?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> i use startx
[10:23] <ajmorris> hi, im trying to upgrade the RAM in my pc, i have 'hynix 1Rx8 PC2=4200U-444-12 corsair' in there currently, can i add 'hynix 1Rx8 PC2=4200U-444-12' to it?
[10:23] <vwhydrowv> not sur if thats gnome or not
[10:24] <khermans> vwhydrowv, are you in the middle of an upgrade?
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> x server
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> no, it finished
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> atleast i thought it did
[10:24] <vwhydrowv> i didnt see anything left running
[10:24] <khermans> vwhydrowv, run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-ugprade again
[10:24] <khermans> make sure
[10:24] <ehc> how can I get an image of an entire page including contents that require scrolling from firefox? a screenshot doesn't include the area that needs to be scrollled to
[10:25] <Kalamansi> khermans : dp ypu have english letters of this website please? i dont understand...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPD_-_Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol_Daemon
[10:25] <Vinconzo> hi
[10:25] <khermans> ehc, html2pdf ?
[10:25] <mkquist> ehc:  why not just save the page?
[10:25] <Vinconzo> ubuntu doesnt recognize my laptop's wifi anymore
[10:25] <vwhydrowv> its doing something
[10:25] <mkquist> ehc: should include all
[10:25] <Cubexombi> astro76- FYI, didn't work, though in my fstab i managed to remove the UUID=" blabla" and revert back to a simpler /dev/hdxx .. oddly this did the trick..
[10:25] <Vinconzo> rephrase
[10:26] <mkquist> ehc: including images and such
[10:26] <Vinconzo> my wifi doesnt work wifi ubnuntu anymore
[10:26] <khermans> Kalamansi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355318
[10:26] <bullgard4> What does 'cgen' stand for, for example in http://sourceware.org/cgen/gen-doc/frv-2.html?
[10:26] <ehc> mkquist, yeah
[10:26] <Vinconzo> it shows up in lspci and it's loaded in lsmod
[10:26] <vwhydrowv> maybe i should hit y for yes for everything
[10:26] <astro76> Cubexombi, hmm yeah I guess you need to run the blkid in the system you are changing to get the correct UUID
[10:26] <T045T> hi... can someone answer a question about dual-screen with an NVidia card?
[10:26] <mkquist> ehc: so that works?
[10:26] <vwhydrowv> first it says
[10:27] <astro76> !uuid | Cubexombi
[10:27] <ubotu> Cubexombi: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> leave the following dependencies unresolved
[10:27] <nvictor> hi
[10:27] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what dependencies?
[10:27] <ehc> mkquist, html2pdf? I don't really want to use a pdf, I just want it in a jpeg.
[10:27] <nvictor> how do I know that apache2 is running?
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> openoffice.org-core recommends nfs-common
[10:27] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yeah dont worry about it yet
[10:27] <khermans> nvictor, ps aux
[10:27] <nvictor> thanks
[10:27] <vwhydrowv> deskbar-applet recommends libdeskbar--tracker
[10:27] <khermans> nvictor, or pidof apache2
[10:28] <mkquist> ehc: so ur trying to save a pdf?
[10:28] <Cubexombi> astro76: thx,looks like taht explains things a bit.. ..
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, just go ahead with everything
[10:28] <mkquist> ehc: then that should be an option on ur toolbar... no?
[10:28] <Cubexombi> well now taht this is fixed it's coffee time
[10:28] <mkquist> e
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> hplib, python-html, update-notifire, file-rollerare other ones
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did you have an thrid-party repositoreis, like automatix?
[10:28] <mkquist> then open in gimp and save as? no?
[10:28] <ehc> mkquist, I am using firefox with the web developer add on and I am using web developer to highlight somethings. I want to save this as an image
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> it also says score is -5851
[10:28] <khermans> vwhydrowv, ha!
[10:28] <vwhydrowv> ?
[10:28] <mkquist> e
[10:29] <mkquist> sry
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[10:29] <mkquist> ehc: save as jpeg or png?
[10:29] <vwhydrowv> so do i press y here or n
[10:29] <ehc> mkquist, either will work
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, y if it is not going to remove a bunch of stuff
[10:29] <astro76> ehc, apps > accessories > take screenshot, or press print screen on your keyboard
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, be careful here
[10:29] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you should pastebin your sources.list file
[10:29] <vwhydrowv> ok, next stup
[10:30] <gourdin> is there a way back when installing kde4rc2 on gusty ?
[10:30] <mkquist> ehc: done then?
[10:30] <khermans> gourdin, purge it?
[10:30] <ehc> astro76, that will only take a screenshot of shown window, I want it to include contents that need to be scrolled to be seen. the window is long
[10:30] <khermans> ehc, file -> save page
[10:30] <vwhydrowv> need to get 0B/524MB of archives, after unpacking 493MB will be used
[10:30] <vwhydrowv> y.n?
[10:30] <nvictor> khermans: lighttpd is running on port 80, which is prevent apache2 to run, how do I fix that?
[10:30] <khermans> vwhydrowv, go for it
[10:31] <nvictor> *preventing
[10:31] <Shai_A> hello people, I have a problem opening a RAR file. I tried using ARK but it doesn't work
[10:31] <gourdin> khermans: some new 3.5.8 package are installed, so I don't know if just purging kde4 is a way back
[10:31] <ehc> khermans, I want to have the web developer highlighted sections of the page shown.
[10:31] <vwhydrowv> ok back at prompt
[10:31] <gourdin> nvictor: either change apache2 listening port or lighthttpd
[10:31] <khermans> nvictor, sudo /etc/init.d/lighttpd stop
[10:31] <nvictor> thanks
[10:31] <khermans> nvictor, or remove the pacjage if not using it
[10:31] <gourdin> nvictor: this will work too :)
[10:31] <khermans> Shai_A, sudo aptitude install rar
[10:31] <nvictor> khermans: how do I remove the package?
[10:32] <matholum> well... i'm getting off... cya all later and thanks for the help ^_^
[10:32] <khermans> gourdin, try removing and reinstalling the old version
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> sudo do-release-upgrade command not found
[10:32] <root_> hackmepleasse
[10:32] <khermans> ehc, larger screen reoslution then?
[10:32] <Shai_A> khermans: sorry, I'm new to Linux, I lost you after you said sudo
[10:32] <khermans> nvictor, sudo aptitude remove lighttpd
[10:32] <khermans> vwhydrowv, dont worr yabout that
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> shai, type that in terminal emulator
[10:32] <nvictor> thanks
[10:32] <khermans> vwhydrowv, its because you havent actually updated yet
[10:32] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:33] <vwhydrowv> so now what?
[10:33] <Shai_A> okay, I'll try...
[10:33] <khermans> !sudo | Shai_A
[10:33] <ubotu> Shai_A: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:33] <ehc> khermans, yeah, hmm maybe if I resize the page to 1024x6000 or something ksnapshot will include even what the monitor doesn't show. let me try that
[10:33] <Shai_A> thanks all
[10:33] <vwhydrowv> same fatal error khermans
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> shai, no prob
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, what is the error?
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> fatal server error
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did the upgrade happen?
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:34] <khermans> vwhydrowv, it sounded like there was still more to do
[10:34] <vwhydrowv> i dont think it did
[10:34] <irvken> anyone use virtualbox
[10:35] <khermans> !anyone | irvken
[10:35] <ubotu> irvken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did it give an error ?
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, on the aptitude dist-upgrade??
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> yes
[10:35] <Shai_A> it worked! :)
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> oh
[10:35] <khermans> vwhydrowv, the font ?
[10:35] <vwhydrowv> 1 sec
[10:35] <chazco> How can I determine if internal bluetooth is actually USB?
[10:35] <Boris> irvken : i've used virtualbox
[10:36] <khermans> chazco, lsusb ?
[10:36] <irvken> I'm trying to install winxp as a virtual machine on my ubuntu laptop but after the blue screen of install and the reboot in 15 secs, the screen just goes black/blank
[10:36] <carina> what the fastest rdp remote connection software?
[10:36] <chazco> khermans - Bingo, thanks :)
[10:36] <khermans> caravena, rdesktop ?
[10:36] <vwhydrowv> yes the font erored only after that upgrade
[10:36] <khermans> chazco, np dude
[10:36] <Boris> irvken : your ubuntu screen or winxp screen *
[10:36] <chazco> irvken - I'm using virtualbox, make sure you told it you were going to use XP (sounds daft, but still)
[10:36] <irvken> juts the winxp screen
[10:36] <nvictor> khermans: isn't /etc/init.d/apache2 start to start apache2?
[10:37] <Boris> irvken : you should ask in #virtualbox
[10:37] <vwhydrowv> when i type in startx
[10:37] <mkquist> ehc: save as pdf, open in gimp and save as png or whatever, just did it... works
[10:37] <khermans> nvictor, yes, but i never said to do that
[10:37] <vwhydrowv> i get could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:37] <irvken> thx Boris
[10:37] <tanlaan> If I'm installing a seperate home partition, what size should I make my root partition?
[10:37] <ehc> mkquist, using html2pdf?
[10:37] <carina> rdesktop windows terminal session or nxclient anything else ?
[10:37] <ehc> !html2pdf
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2pdf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <nvictor> khermans: well, how should I start apache? I do that, and ps aux and I don't find apache2 listed.
[10:37] <mkquist> ehc: i just opened a pdf in firefox, save as pdf, opened in gimp and saved as jpeg or png... works easy and quick
[10:38] <khermans> vwhydrowv, youre not going to be able to finish the upgrade until you reboot anyways
[10:38] <gourdin> anyone using kde 4 rc2 here ?
[10:38] <gourdin> on ubuntu ?
[10:38] <vwhydrowv> x10: fatal i0 error 104 connection reset by peer on x server ":0.0" after 9 requests (0 known processed) with 9 events remaining
[10:38] <gourdin> )à
[10:38] <carina> the weird thing it fastest when i use windows remote client to connect
[10:38] <gourdin> =)
[10:38] <mkquist> ehc: worked for me saving from a website, just like that
[10:38] <khermans> nvictor, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:38] <nvictor> ok
[10:38] <vwhydrowv> ok ill reboot, but when i rebooted last time thats when i ended up here
[10:38] <carina> is there an something similiar to that on ubuntu?
[10:38] <mkquist> ehc: no screenshots required and quick
[10:38] <ehc> mkquist, did you try using the web developer addon to highlight anything? that is the main thing that I need. I want to highlight the different sections of a website to show the tables that it is using.
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i woudlnt reboot until upgrade is done
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv,  we need to install the last packages
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> there was no more commands being processed
[10:39] <khermans> vwhydrowv, you never told em those erros
[10:39] <mkquist> ehc: well, no cant say that i did, sry.  What are u after?
[10:39] <khermans> didt it say "need to install ..."
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> yes but it didnt
[10:39] <vwhydrowv> after several attempts
[10:39] <khermans> so there must be some error though
[10:40] <khermans> in the display
[10:40] <nvictor> khermans: nothing happens
[10:40] <khermans> or check /var/log/
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> yes, agree
[10:40] <nvictor> am I doing something wrong?
[10:40] <hacked_kernel> Is there a firefox plugin or independent player for IPIX extensions?
[10:40] <carina> does the rdesktop depend on the graphics card of the machine?
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> its restarting
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> the monitor blinks on and off several times before i get that message
[10:40] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:40] <ehc> mkquist, i want to take a long (as in you need to scroll through the page to show all of the content) webpage and save it as an image.
[10:40] <khermans> nvictor, what are yo utry ig to do?
[10:40] <khermans> carina, no
[10:41] <nvictor> I have just apt-get apache2
[10:41] <carina> when i use rdesktop screen seems very sluggish
[10:41] <nvictor> I want to start it
[10:41] <khermans> nvictor, but you need to kill any other web servers running too
[10:41] <vwhydrowv> failed to start the x server ( your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?
[10:41] <carina> which one is better window terminal server or rdesktop?
[10:41] <shadix> hey anyone have an idea why my keyboard sometimes dosn't work when I get to my login screen
[10:41] <nvictor> khermans: I have killed lighttpd
[10:41] <khermans> nvictor, http://bashcurescancer.com/installing-apache-on-ubuntu-710-gusty-gibbon.html
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> the msg box talks about the font issue again
[10:42] <nvictor> khermans: I have installed it
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: well u can save it as multiple images if that helps, u still get the whole page in one swipe of a d/l tho
[10:42] <khermans> nvictor, if it is not starting, check /var/log for erros
[10:42] <shadix> CaptainMorgan: YArrrrr!
[10:42] <nvictor> ok
[10:42] <carina> with windows terminal session it seems to give all the everything including background and such
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> x window system version 1.3.0
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: maybe join the images in gimp?
[10:42] <nvictor> thanks
[10:42] <vwhydrowv> release date: 19 april 2007
[10:42] <mkquist> ehc: or are u looking for code?
[10:42] <khermans> vwhydrowv, yes we need to fix that -- but the aptitude dist-upgrade needs to be figured out
[10:42] <carina> oh yeah which rdp is better rdpv5 or regular rdp?
[10:42] <CaptainMorgan> shadix, arrgghh!!
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, please pastebin your sources.list
[10:43] <vwhydrowv> x protocol version 11, revision 0, release 1.3
[10:43] <ehc> is there an html to image tool?
[10:43] <vwhydrowv> do u want me to keep giving u this info or go to the upgrade again
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, show me your sources.list
[10:43] <khermans> vwhydrowv, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <vwhydrowv> ok, im working on it :)
[10:45] <vwhydrowv> is it gedit?
[10:45] <rejeep> Hi! Which package do I need for "limits.h"?
[10:45] <khermans> vwhydrowv, if you like
[10:45] <ehc> !html2image
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2image - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <ehc> !html2jpg
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2jpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <ehc> !html2png
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html2png - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <carina> what the difference in rdp and rdpv5
[10:45] <chazco> ehc - Trying to convert images by any chance?
[10:45] <vwhydrowv> im trying to use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <khermans> rejden, sudo aptitude install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search limits.h
[10:46] <ehc> chazco, I want to convert an html file into an image.
[10:46] <vwhydrowv> but its coming back to see a full list of available command line options type gedit --help
[10:46] <vwhydrowv> err
[10:46] <shadix> seriously it's really annoying and every time it happens i have to restart
[10:46] <shadix> pls hlp
[10:46] <chazco> ehc - Print screen?
[10:46] <khermans> vwhydrowv, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <rejeep> khermans, guess you mean rejeep =)
[10:46] <rejeep> khermans, thanks
[10:46] <ehc> chazco, nope, the webpage is long and connot be captured in one screens view.
[10:47] <khermans> rejeep, yes ^^^ sorry to that other dude
[10:47] <vwhydrowv> any other way i can pastebin this for u?
[10:47] <chazco> ehc - If the webpage is online a quick / easy way would be to use browsershots
[10:47] <khermans> vwhydrowv, /topic
[10:47] <wers> how do I install fluxbuntu over ubuntu? :D
[10:48] <khermans> wers, sudo aptitude install fluxbox ?
[10:48] <wers> khermans, just the fluxbox package?
[10:48] <wers> doesnt fluxbuntu have its own settings, etc
[10:48] <vwhydrowv> says /topic command not found
[10:48] <khermans> wers, you could format ubuntu, keep your /home though
[10:48] <chazco> ehc - Any good?
[10:49] <ehc> chazco, okay that could work, I am just going to try patching together different screenshots
[10:49] <wers> khermans, I can't just add fluxbuntu's repo or something?
[10:49] <khermans> vwhydrowv, type that in this channel
[10:49] <vwhydrowv> oh, lol
[10:49] <chazco> Ok... browsershots is quite effective though, so may be worth looking into
[10:50] <khermans> wers, sounds liek it would work
[10:50] <wers> khermans, the weird thing is that, I have been googling but I can't find the url for the repo
[10:51] <laymu> ;-)
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> no man, i know how to pastebin once got it copied, how can i copy the info
[10:51] <wers> it's not even in its site, launchpad page or wikipedia article
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> gedit isnt working for me
[10:51] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did you ssh into the remote machine?
[10:51] <khermans> then just copy and paste
[10:51] <vwhydrowv> no
[10:51] <laymu> vwhydrowv:why?
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> why didnt i?
[10:52] <^_uhoh> Does anyone happen to know of any simple animated gifs of a *nix environment, perhaps a terminal/console scrolling endlessly?
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, his X is broken on upgrade
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> because 1st i dont have a clue how
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, aptitude has not finished
[10:52] <laymu> hmmm
[10:52] <laymu> got it
[10:52] <vwhydrowv> 2nd i thought i was supposed to run a command to bring up firefox to use pastebin once i got the text copied
[10:52] <khermans> laymu, i told him we need to fix his apt
[10:53] <laymu> then what's it going on?
[10:53] <khermans> laymu, hes having ttourlbing pastinning
[10:53] <vwhydrowv> ok ill just type in what i find
[10:54] <laymu> what
[10:54] <laymu> why don't you rebuild the system?
[10:55] <laymu> It seems convenient
[10:56] <laymu> You can backup the import files and folders previously !
[10:56] <vwhydrowv> what does restricted mean after it?
[10:56] <vwhydrowv> does that mean i cant access it?
[10:56] <khermans> vwhydrowv, no
[10:57] <khermans> !repositories | vwhydrowv
[10:57] <ubotu> vwhydrowv: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:57] <vwhydrowv> im in vi right now, is there a way to select everything and copy?
[10:58] <osfameron> I've tried prepending "acpi=off panic=5" to the options (F6) from the installer menu, but it is still chugging away after 5 mins, refusing to boot up
[10:58] <osfameron> any suggestions for other options?  (The disk verifies as OK)
[10:59] <khermans> vwhydrowv, dude lets just forget about the sources.list
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> ok
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> sounds good
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> lol
[10:59] <shadix> i need to be able to view vids on the net a Gnash isn't working is there something eles or some update I have to do
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> cause im not getting anywhere with that
[10:59] <vwhydrowv> ok so now what can we do
[11:00] <vwhydrowv> or is there a next?
[11:00] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude -vvv dist-upgrade ?
[11:00] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:00] <khermans> !flash | shadix
[11:00] <ubotu> shadix: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:00] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:00] <Kalamansi> hello done installing firestarter but when i run it Applications>Internet>Firestarter it gives me to an error like this "Failed to start the firewall, the device eth0 is not ready" ...my server ubuntu have internet and also my workstation...but i cannot make run firestarter because of that error..need your help please.thanks
[11:00] <^tiNee^> anyone here use geubuntu?
[11:01] <osfameron> hmmm, in safe mode, I have control of mouse (but the disk still chuggs away without doing anything).  In normal boot up, the mouse moves only once every minute or so
[11:01] <vwhydrowv> ok now?
[11:02] <khermans> vwhydrowv, any output?
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> yes. which part
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> looked like it did previously
[11:02] <khermans> vwhydrowv, or try -> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <jmchaffie> Greets! Is there an app that will auto-generate thumbnails from directories without having to manually create them from each image?
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:02] <vwhydrowv> now?
[11:03] <khermans> vwhydrowv, check /var/log for errors
[11:03] <vwhydrowv> says something like try using -f
[11:03] <khermans> hrmm
[11:03] <khermans> before that
[11:03] <vwhydrowv> unmet dependencies
[11:03] <khermans> vwhydrowv, which ones?
[11:03] <zcat[1]> jmchaffie: llgal will do all that and make a web-gallery html page for you
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> not sure, it scrolled so fast, but the last 2 are
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> python-central
[11:04] <jmchaffie> zcat: Hey thanks! is that something from apt-get? Or do I need to go find it?
[11:04] <khermans> which packages need it ?
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> python
[11:04] <zcat[1]> apt-get
[11:04] <vwhydrowv> ubuntu3
[11:04] <jmchaffie> THANK YOU! I appreciate it.
[11:04] <khermans> vwhydrowv, ubuntu3 ?
[11:05] <vwhydrowv> says this
[11:05] <khermans> vwhydrowv, python-central is in gutsy
[11:05] <vwhydrowv> depends: python (>= 2.5) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 is installed
[11:06] <khermans> vwhydrowv, try sudo aptitude install python
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> lave the following dependencies unresolved:
[11:07] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sure
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> libgnomevfs2-0 recommends gnome-mount
[11:07] <vwhydrowv> gnome-applets recommends deskbar-applet
[11:07] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sure
[11:08] <vwhydrowv> score is 90489
[11:08] <Kalamansi> hello done installing firestarter but when i run it Applications>Internet>Firestarter it gives me to an error like this "Failed to start the firewall, the device eth0 is not ready" ...my server ubuntu have internet and also my workstation...but i cannot make run firestarter because of that error..need your help please.thanks
[11:08] <nvictor> khermans: my apache2 installation is not working, I get no log, no error messages, nothing
[11:08] <khermans> just say yes
[11:08] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:08] <khermans> nvictor, you got problems!
[11:08] <nvictor> yes
[11:08] <khermans> nvictor, are you sure you installed apache2 and not apace?
[11:08] <nvictor> yes
[11:08] <khermans> vwhydrowv, err try it i guess
[11:08] <nvictor> I have just removed all the packages
[11:08] <nvictor> and re-installed
[11:08] <khermans> Kalamansi, try #firestarter ?
[11:09] <Kalamansi> why is it that my firestarter didnt detect eth0? what could be the problem?
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> try sudo firestarter
[11:09] <|ns|nR8> it has to be run as root
[11:09] <nvictor> khermans: are there other ways except apt-get to install a package on command line?
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> still doing stuff
[11:09] <khermans> nvictor, aptitude
[11:09] <nvictor> ok
[11:09] <nvictor> aptitude install?
[11:09] <khermans> vwhydrowv, installing?
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> i got to get something to drink and use the restroom man, been a while, lol
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> ya
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> it is
[11:09] <vwhydrowv> brb
[11:09] <khermans> vwhydrowv, hehe
[11:10] <khermans> vwhydrowv, getting closer perhaps
[11:10] <khermans> vwhydrowv, better to upgrade every 6 months if you can :-0
[11:10] <khermans> or wait between LTS releases
[11:11] <Kalamansi> i did that "sudo firestarter" and still "failed to start the firewall the device eth0 is not ready"
[11:11] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> now it says
[11:12] <|ns|nR8> Kalamansi you got some other network monitor running ?
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> configuring libpam0g
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> starvices to restart for pam library upgrade
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> samba gdm cupsys crom atd apache2
[11:12] <khermans> vwhydrowv, nice!
[11:12] <vwhydrowv> should i click ok?
[11:13] <Kalamansi> |ns|nR8 im not sure tho firestarter is installed. how to know that if other network is running?
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> i take that as a yes
[11:13] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i dont think you can click, but yes!
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> ok, same issue though
[11:13] <khermans> ?
[11:13] <vwhydrowv> failed to start the x server
[11:13] <osfameron> ooo! I can get to a command line prompt during boot of livecd
[11:13] <osfameron> load average 10.45
[11:13] <khermans> vwhydrowv, we only updated python dude
[11:13] <osfameron> and the X session is still mainly hung
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> oh ok
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> sorry
[11:14] <khermans> vwhydrowv, heh
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> lol
[11:14] <khermans> hold on a sec
[11:14] <osfameron> from command line is there a good way to debug why X isn't starting properly ?
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> new error
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> failure restarting some services for pam upgrade
[11:14] <mosno> osfameron: /var/log/X*
[11:14] <_Bart__> Hi, can someone help me with this error, Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed!
[11:14] <vwhydrowv>  the following services could not be restart for the pam library upgrade
[11:14] <perfector>  my squid is crashing too often.. too many people trying to authenticate and being refused. how can i stop it from crashing??
[11:14] <vwhydrowv> apache2
[11:14] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> you will need to start these manually
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> as soon as it lets me
[11:15] <khermans> hehe ok
[11:15] <vwhydrowv> still upgrading pam
[11:15] <khermans> vwhydrowv, oh its stil upgrading?
[11:15] <osfameron> mosno: thanks
[11:15] <Kalamansi> there's no humans in ##firestarter nor #firestarter. that means im the only one who use then huhuhuhu need help..i
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> score is -905
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> lol
[11:16] <_Bart__> someone???? please??
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> gotta love those statistics
[11:16] <vwhydrowv> its upgrading now
[11:16] <khermans> vwhydrowv, heh ok
[11:16] <khermans> vwhydrowv, after it is done --> sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:17] <vwhydrowv> k
[11:17] <vwhydrowv> regenerating fonts cache, yah@!!!!!
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> sudo do-release-upgrade not recognized
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, :-)
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, must not have installed though
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> says not found i mean
[11:18] <khermans> vwhydrowv, apnd you installed it?
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> i ran what u said to run
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> line by line
[11:18] <vwhydrowv> :)
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> same font issue
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, did update-manager-core install?
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> so i guess it didnt work
[11:19] <inflex> is there a guide on how to upgrade from 7.04 -> 7.10 using a 7.10 CD ?
[11:19] <vwhydrowv> i can do it again
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i want to know the errors
[11:19] <khermans> vwhydrowv, i am running blind since you cant pastebin
[11:20] <^_uhoh> Is anyone able to create a simple animated gif of a console scrolling output endlessly and seamlessly?
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> its so fast, is there a way to slow it down
[11:20] <beni> Can anyone hellp me with setting the trip_points file for my CPU fan? By Ubuntu default everything is set to 100°C and thats way too how, and I cant find anything on the Internet... :(
[11:20]  * osfameron gives up on the LiveCD
[11:20] <khermans> vwhydrowv, pipe it to less
[11:20] <khermans> | less
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> is there a way to ssh u into it?
[11:20] <wers> which is lighter, the new yahoo! mail on my firefox or sundbird with my gmail? :D
[11:20] <vwhydrowv> ok
[11:20] <osfameron> I'll download the installation based CD instead, that might work
[11:20] <khermans> vwhydrowv, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:20]  * inflex thinks there are too many people in this channel to effectively support people :(
[11:20] <wers> i mean, uses less resources like ram and cpu
[11:21]  * inflex is dissapointed that since upgrading from 6.10 -> 7.10 on one machine, his ATi X800 card now craps out :(... worked fine in 6.10
[11:21] <khermans> inflex, yo ucan just pop in the CD i think
[11:22] <Drakx_> wers: im taking a guess here and saying sunbird, since firefox is greedy IMO
[11:22] <khermans> inflex, sudo restricted-manager
[11:22] <beni> inflex, my gf had the same problem..
[11:22] <inflex> khermans: doing that usually proceeds with a complete obliteration
[11:22] <wers> Drakx_, hmmm.. yah. maybe
[11:22] <inflex> beni: would you believe, it's my -wife's- machine
[11:22] <wers> how about Y!Mail on epiphany vs. gmail on sunbird?
[11:22] <agent> g
[11:23] <Drakx_> wers: I dont know since i dont use epiphany
[11:23] <alanbshepard70> stupid question..... when using a command line how do I input a filename with spaces in it? when I type the spaces whatever program that is being passed the filename sees the space as error
[11:23] <inflex> beni: upgraded her from a 9200SE -> X800GTO so her WinXP "Sims2" would work nicely...  then the other night I upgraded her Ubuntu from 6.10 -> 7.10 ... and now after 10 mins the keyboard / mouse clicks have no effect, though the machine still runs (I can ssh in and shut it down etc)
[11:24] <Drakx_> alanbshepard70: use touch i\ am\ a\ file
[11:24] <wers> Drakx_, oh well. maybe, it's best to stick with my mail. it's been my primary email ever since. hehe
[11:24] <astro76> alanbshepard70: like\ this or "like this"
[11:24] <Drakx_> wers: :)
[11:24] <arcade> *sigh*.  Linux and sound.  Hate.hate.hate. :P
[11:25] <alanbshepard70> astro76: would it look like this /home/myusername/"filename with spaces" or "/home/myusername/filename with spaces" ?
[11:25] <arcade> Just discovered why 'tremulous' was warping.  artsd was hogging resources for playing sound, making the entire game lag. :P
[11:25] <Drakx_> alanbshepard70: file\ name or "file name"
[11:25] <beni> inflex, :-(
[11:26] <inflex> beni: so now I've had to roll her back to the 9200SE
[11:26] <inflex> beni: truly confounds me :(
[11:26] <beni> after some reinstalling of the ATI drivers it suddenly worked - I dunno how and why..
[11:26] <inflex> mmm...
[11:26] <beni> yep, ATI really sucks sometimes
[11:26] <inflex> can't even use the card elsewher eprobably because we all are now using Ubuntu 7.10
[11:26] <astro76> alanbshepard70: the second one, enclose the whole path
[11:26] <inflex> (father, wife, me, mother inlaw, brother inlaw, etc)
[11:27] <osfameron> ok!  I think the problem is I have 128M Ram on this old POS.  I guess the LiveCD isn't very happy with that amount of mem
[11:27]  * inflex is using a 9250 atm
[11:27] <herz1> how do I find out which kernel module provides "eth0" (or "eth1")?
[11:27] <inflex> osfameron: ja, that's a bit 'tight'
[11:27] <inflex> herz1: try erm....   dmesg | grep eth0
[11:27] <inflex> herz1: or 'lsmod'
[11:27] <khermans> osfameron, min is 192MB
[11:27] <alanbshepard70> astro: thanks it worked.
[11:27] <osfameron> khermans: aha.  For the LiveCD or for ubuntu in general?
[11:28] <khermans> osfameron, ubuntu
[11:28] <khermans> bot
[11:28] <khermans> both
[11:28] <herz1> inflex: that wouldn't allow this to be scripted, because the ipw3945 driver eg. doesn't print that it manages eth1
[11:28] <osfameron> khermans: ah... I thought it could run on a low memory system?
[11:28] <inflex> gorram it... why have I been suckered into the FF-X story / videos :(
[11:28] <herz1> a mapping eth<n> <-> pci-address would help, too
[11:28] <khermans> osfameron, look at the live cd requirements
[11:28] <inflex> why do they have to make those gaming girls look so good
[11:28] <Drakx_> osfameron: give xubuntu it may run better with such low specs POS
[11:28] <vwhydrowv> i got booted
[11:28] <osfameron> I understand the livecd not working, because it's mapping a pretend HD to the ram...
[11:29] <osfameron> Drakx_: good idea
[11:30] <osfameron> yay!  xubuntu requires 64Mb for the alternate installation CD
[11:30] <Drakx_> lol
[11:30] <elig> anyone able to ICS to a vista laptop over ad hoc
[11:31] <beni> What is the "normal" CPU temperature? My P4 HT is constantly @ 62°C
[11:31] <Drakx_> elig: I would not try any thing with vista thats just IMO
[11:31] <osfameron> Drakx_: hey, this PC was, er, middling spec when I bought it 8 years ago :-)
[11:31] <|ns|nR8> for an intel its prolly a little warm
[11:31] <Drakx_> osfameron: lmao
[11:32] <elig> i only need to connect to my ad hoc network
[11:32] <elig> with the vista box
[11:32] <Drakx_> elig: try #windows
[11:32] <beni> |ns|nR8, good point, next point :) How can I fix this? I cleaned up my FAN a dozen times, everything is ok
[11:32] <elig> i can do it with xp
[11:32] <alanbshepard70> can anyone help me with a bash script that uses gpg to encrypt all files in a directory one by one using the same passphrase?
[11:32] <uruca> hello, I created an Iso of a ntfs disk (perhaps with a damaged fs) with gnu ddrescue, but now i cannot mount it to browse and save my files
[11:33] <beni> alanbshepard70, better compress the files into a tarball and then gpg this one..
[11:33] <|ns|nR8> beni do you apply heat transfer paste ?
[11:33] <Drakx_> uruca: find gmountiso
[11:33] <Drakx_> its a gui to mounting iso files
[11:33] <beni> |ns|nR8, nope, never did so.. its an 3 year old retail pc
[11:33] <mandrill> I need to share a DVD writer with a windows machine and get it to recognize it as a DVD writer can this be done
[11:33] <beni> by at the beginning it was veery quiet
[11:33] <mandrill> Hi all btw, and happy new year :)
[11:33] <|ns|nR8> beni you will find if you get some paste it will drop 15 - 20 C
[11:34] <uruca> Drakx_, ok i'm installing it
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> thats if you remove the heatsink
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> without reapplying it
[11:34] <alanbshepard70> beni: I'm trying to avoid that since I would then have to decrypt and uncompress a huge blob of files when I really only want access to one specific file.
[11:34] <|ns|nR8> beni you got case fans ?
[11:34] <elig> Drakx_  its got to be some driver or config issue
[11:34] <dessnr> I don't know if anybody has noted this yet, but there is a bug while having effects turned on, whilst running skype.  I'm running Gutsy and when I have the effects on, it all works perfectly, except when I type in a skype chat window, my text does not show up until I click on the top of the chat window itself.  When I turn effects off, skypes chat window updates instantly as normal, with the text that I type.  I switched off wobble
[11:34] <dessnr>  and things like that singly but nothing helped.  When you turn effects totally off, and the screen flicks back to it's other mode, skype works as normal.  Anyone had this problem?  If not, where do I report the bug?  To skype or the Ubuntu team?
[11:34] <beni> |ns|nR8, so I should take away the fan, then the underlaying passive cooler and then put it on the cpu?
[11:35] <beni> nope I dont have any case fans, wait I'll pick a photo
[11:35] <elig> my wifi will scan air but all networks right here are encrypted
[11:35] <kazil> hi all. i`m trying to install alien-arena, i downloaded the alien-arena_6.10-2_i386.deb and alien-arena-data_6.10-2_all.deb files. i installed the second, but when i try to install the first it says: Dependency is not satisfiable: libkrb53. what should i do?
[11:35] <uruca> drakx_, consider i'm on the Ub.7.10 live cd
[11:35] <Drakx_> elig: I really have no idea, when i bought my laptop it had vista the first thing i did was format it and install linux
[11:35] <introduce> hi to the room..,if someone tries to modify the auth/message/..etc through the home directory will that also affect the system log contents?
[11:35] <elig> its not mine
[11:35] <|ns|nR8> go private beni
[11:36] <Drakx_> uruca: sorry remind me again?
[11:36] <Drakx_> the POS?
[11:36] <elig> i posted on LQ but i got no replies
[11:36] <wild_oscar> does anyone have a hint why Suspend only works 2 or 3 times on gutsy and doesn't work anymore afterwards?
[11:36] <dessnr> is all of my text showing?
[11:36] <dessnr> I don't know if anybody has noted this yet, but there is a bug while having effects turned on, whilst running skype.  I'm running Gutsy and when I have the effects on, it all works perfectly, except when I type in a skype chat window, my text does not show up until I click on the top of the chat window itself.  When I turn effects off, skypes chat window updates instantly as normal, with the text that I type.  I switched off wobble
[11:36] <dessnr>  and things like that singly but nothing helped.  When you turn effects totally off, and the screen flicks back to it's other mode, skype works as normal.  Anyone had this problem?  If not, where do I report the bug?  To skype or the Ubuntu team?
[11:36] <mandrill> The windows machine has no DVD drive and I need to install something from the a DVD
[11:37] <mandrill> I want the windows machine to treat the drive in the ubuntu machine as its own drive
[11:37] <uruca> drakx_, I created a iso image from an ntfs disk (probably with the fs damaged) and now i have to mount this iso to browse and save my files
[11:37] <bazhang> dessnr: effects in compiz? try #compiz-fusion
[11:37] <Drakx_> uruca: ah yea, gmountiso _should_ mount it?
[11:37] <kazil> hi all. i`m trying to install alien-arena, i downloaded the alien-arena_6.10-2_i386.deb and alien-arena-data_6.10-2_all.deb files. i installed the second, but when i try to install the first it says: Dependency is not satisfiable: libkrb53. what should i do?
[11:37] <uruca> drakx_, installed gmountiso. The command?
[11:37] <introduce> ...bump
[11:37] <dessnr> bazhang: what is compiz please?
[11:37] <Drakx_> Applications >> system >> gmountiso
[11:38] <Drakx_> use the GUI
[11:38] <bazhang> kazil: why not install from the repos?
[11:38] <bazhang> !info alien-arena
[11:38] <ubotu> alien-arena: Standalone 3D first person online deathmatch shooter. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 6.05-4.1 (gutsy), package size 637 kB, installed size 1512 kB
[11:38] <elig> dessnr compiz is a window manager
[11:38] <kazil> bazhang: i don`t have internet connection on that machine
[11:39] <bazhang> dessnr: effects is compiz-fusion; try #compiz-fusion
[11:39] <ljsmithx> http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx
[11:39] <ljsmithx> LOOK AT THAT!
[11:39] <ljsmithx> http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx
[11:39] <bazhang> ljsmithx: not in this channel
[11:39] <dessnr> bazhang: you mean in a terminal window?
[11:39] <ljsmithx> ok
[11:39] <ljsmithx> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:40] <scguy318> that'll do
[11:40] <bazhang> ljsmithx: try ##windows
[11:40] <uruca> drakx_, gmountiso: error!!!
[11:40] <counterpoint> hello  can  someone  assist me
[11:40] <bazhang> dessnr: no, effects on your desktop are compiz-fusion; try the channel I gave you
[11:40] <Drakx_> uruca: hmm have you tried google?
[11:41] <dessnr> bazhang: oh thanks, sorry mate i was confused.
[11:41] <bazhang> dessnr: no worries
[11:41] <kostebek> hey :) come back again
[11:41] <kostebek> From TürkiyE
[11:42] <uruca> drakx_, google? for what? searching other solutions? yes, i tried yet acetoneiso, but it not mounts my iso
[11:43] <counterpoint>  I can  not access the network configuration  from  xfce gui  I  type the password   and get " configuration could not be loaded
[11:43] <_Bart__> Can someone PLEASE help me, I can't do anything I only see the Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed!\
[11:43] <Drakx_> uruca: erm im not sure then
[11:43] <bazhang> counterpoint: network-manager?
[11:43] <counterpoint>  yes
[11:44] <mandrill> How do I get a windows installation disc to autoplay over a samba share?
[11:44] <uruca> drakx_, what's erm?
[11:44] <mandrill> (not for installing windows, the software is for windows)
[11:44] <bazhang> mandrill: connected to a ubuntu machne?
[11:44] <Drakx_> mandrill: you browse to the exe from windows
[11:44] <mandrill> yes
[11:44] <mandrill> I have tried that
[11:44] <Tyczek> I have problem: in live-cd boot-splash is working, when i boot from hdd it's not.
[11:45] <uchazco> I'm planning a clean install... but I want to back up some specific parts of Ubuntu... where are lauchers on the panel (like the firefox one) stored?
[11:45] <counterpoint>  I  was  able to access it once  then  next thing I knew  i had no access
[11:45] <mandrill> Drakx, I've shared the drive, and upoon opening there is no exe file. I juat tget the mac installation files. the windows files are invisible
[11:45] <counterpoint>  hello bazhang
[11:45] <elig> ok im getting a error 16 cant change to ad hoc mode
[11:46] <uruca> drakx_, i tried also whit gisomount ... nothing, and testdisk didn't find partitions on the iso, but on the physical disk it find
[11:46] <bazhang> not sure counterpoint; I;m on KDE; have you asked in #fluxbuntu
[11:46] <uruca> drakx_, just i cannot risk loose my files
[11:46] <_Bart__> PLEASE?
[11:46] <unikon>  i accidently  took the amarok icon off my ubuntu desktop (the one that stays up while playing media) and you could right click to show or hide the playlist window is there any way to recover that icon
[11:47] <Drakx_> uruca: i really dont know what to suggest
[11:47] <counterpoint>  what is  fluxubuntu
[11:47] <Drakx_> post it on the ubuntu forums and see what happens
[11:47] <Kalamansi> hello how to run eth0?
[11:47] <uruca> drakx_, thanks anyway
[11:47] <Drakx_> counterpoint: ubuntu but with fluxbox instead of the other *ubuntu's
[11:47] <rhizo> counterpoint: fluxbuntu, google it
[11:48] <gunja> Hi anyone know anything about xvidtune?
[11:48] <rhizo> Kalamansi: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:48] <lee_nd> NO
[11:48] <Drakx_> yw uruca, sorry i could not help more
[11:49] <Kalamansi> rhizo : root@lan-desktop:~# sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:49] <Kalamansi> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:49] <shadix> how can i make sure I have all the codecs i need to play vids
[11:49] <rhizo> Kalamansi: man ifconfig
[11:49] <rhizo> and drop the 'sudo', since you're root
[11:49] <beni_f> shadix, gstreamer* is the way to go
[11:49] <gunja> shadix: Any videos that can't be played?
[11:49] <burung_hitam> rem_phis@yahoo.com
[11:49] <counterpoint>  i not able to access any of my system applications.. is there a way to reset
[11:50] <shadix> have gstreamer but still nothing
[11:50] <shadix> WMV MPG don't play
[11:50] <Kalamansi> rhizo : same thine root@lan-desktop:~# ifconfig eth0 up
[11:50] <Kalamansi> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:50] <Kalamansi> thing*
[11:51] <lee_nd> ÄãÃÇºÃ
[11:51] <rhizo> Kalamansi: man ifconfig
[11:51] <gunja> shadix: Has it attempted to go and get updated codecs?
[11:51] <uruca> drakx_, now I try into debian channel, bye and thank you
[11:51] <rhizo> that entails actual READING, dude
[11:51] <rhizo> at least list your interfaces, geez
[11:51] <shadix> it?... gstreamer no it hasn't
[11:51] <jpnurmi> hi. after installing g++-4.2, what's the proper way to change /usr/bin/g++ to point to g++-4.2 instead of g++-4.1 ?
[11:52] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, that means you have no network card detected. And stop using a root shell
[11:52] <rhizo> usually, one makes a symbolic link, man ln, jpnurmi
[11:53] <PriceChild> !info g++
[11:53] <ubotu> g++: The GNU C++ compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:53] <rhizo> ln -s is your friend
[11:53] <PriceChild> jpiccolo, that's going to cause breakage if you're not careful
[11:54] <jpnurmi> rhizo: yeah, but usually one uses update-alternatives on ubuntu
[11:54] <rhizo> PriceChild:  there may be a network card detected other than eth0
[11:54] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : how to detect the network card?
[11:54] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, type "ifconfig" and see if anything is displayed other than lo
[11:55] <rhizo> jpnurmi:  probably does the same thing
[11:55] <rhizo> but yeah, use native tools if available
[11:55] <Kalamansi> eth1, eth2 and lo
[11:55] <Drakx_> then you dont have eth0
[11:55] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : eth1, eth2 and lo
[11:55] <rhizo> so why are you trying to use eth0
[11:55] <jpnurmi> that's why i used word "proper" ;)
[11:55] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, so use one of those
[11:56] <rhizo> so why are you trying to use eth0, Kalamansi ?
[11:56]  * PriceChild headdesks
[11:56] <xerxes1358> Hello
[11:56] <Kalamansi> rhizo : my firestarter is looking for eth0.. i dont know why
[11:56] <bazhang> hi xerxes1358
[11:56] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, because you told it to
[11:56] <xerxes1358> Is anyone here running Office 2007 in Linux ?
[11:56] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, change it in the preferences
[11:56] <buscogorditos> hi
[11:56] <PriceChild> xerophyte, microsoft office?
[11:56] <buscogorditos> any chubbie??
[11:57] <rhizo> no, don't touch anything, feed the dogs, log onto irc and make a fool of yourself
[11:57] <bazhang> xerxes1358: using wine or other emulation?
[11:57] <PriceChild> bazhang, wine is not an emulator
[11:57] <xerxes1358> bazhang, prefer wine because otherwise you have to work inside a emulator screen
[11:58] <buscogorditos> i wanna to chat whit a chubbie
[11:58] <prav33n> Hello
[11:58] <bazhang> PriceChild: my mistake :}
[11:58] <elig> anone got any idea on a wifi problem
[11:58] <buscogorditos> any chubbie????
[11:58] <prav33n> I have backed up one of my reiserfs partitions using partimage
[11:58] <bazhang> elig: what is the precise problem?
[11:58] <rhizo> jpnurmi: perhaps i should've guessed the context for your 'proper'
[11:58] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : detected is eth1 ... i dont know why when i run firestarter it ask eth0 ...
[11:58] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, change the dropdown in its preferences
[11:59] <prav33n> When I tried to restore the backup, I am getting an error stating that "Impossible to find a local check structure. Data may be damaged. Do you want to continue?"
[11:59] <elig> cant get connected to a ad hoc network
[11:59] <xerxes1358> no one has an idea ?
[11:59] <hypn0> should I keep gutsy-backports repo enabled, are updates there stable
[11:59] <prav33n> I am using partimage 0.6.6
[11:59] <prav33n> Anyone knows a workaround for this?
[11:59] <Kalamansi> PriceChild: Preferences , firewall , network settings?
[11:59] <mandrill> is there any way I can get my windows machine to see the drive in my ubuntu machine as its own drive?
[11:59] <prav33n> The backup constituted a multiple file image
[12:00] <mandrill> dvd drive that is
[12:01] <ehc> is there an automated shutdown tool for ubuntu?
[12:01] <rhizo> mandrill: samba would be the way to share linux resources on a windows network
[12:01] <jpnurmi> rhizo: i'm just afraid i will break the toolchain by modifying symlinks by hand
[12:01] <bazhang> xerxes1358: you might try crossover office for that, or just in a virtual machine with XP
[12:01] <rhizo> jpnurmi: totally
[12:01] <rhizo> go for the built-in
[12:01] <rhizo> why take chances ?
[12:02] <mandrill> yeah, but I want windows to see theand treat the drive as its own, like it was plugged into the windows machine
[12:02] <wild_oscar> anyone ever heard of suspend working two times and then stop working?
[12:03] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : what should be the name server? <dynamic> -- what to put there? the dns of my isp?
[12:03] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, you shouldn't have to put thatin
[12:03] <shadix> gnash isn't quite right i have you tube working but nothing eles,,,, and it's distorted hlp
[12:03] <jpnurmi> rhizo: well, the problem is, i can't find the proper alternative. there is "cpp" which points to "/usr/bin/cpp" and "c++" which points to "/usr/bin/c++" but no alternatives listed for gcc or g++
[12:03] <Tequil> Hi, I am pretty new to Linux / Ubuntu and I run into a little problem: on my server I have added myself to a group and ever since I cannot use the sudo command anymore, is there someone who can help me?
[12:03] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : ah so i will use Keep existing dhcp config then?
[12:04] <emeline> salut
[12:04] <rhizo> jpnurmi:  baring alternatives, i'd try the ln -s trick
[12:04] <bazhang> hi emeline
[12:06] <Shyde> Tequil: when you run "id" from the terminal, does it list you as member of the "admin" group?
[12:06] <PriceChild> Kalamansi, yes
[12:06] <Tequil> Shyde: let me try, one second
[12:07] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : now i have problem.. pc2 have no internet connection now..tho i can ping the 192.168.2.1 nic
[12:07] <xerxes1358> bazhang, how about itunes?
[12:07] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: wine /path/to/itunes
[12:07] <bazhang> xerxes1358: via wine? you can ask in #winehq
[12:08] <wild_oscar> can anyone ping and browse www.abola.pt ?
[12:08] <Tyczek> how can I unbind "menu"-key?
[12:08] <Tequil> Shyde: no it doesn't only the "mvanbeusekom" group (which is my user) and the new group I added (development)
[12:08] <jaggy> i know this ain't the right channel, but since here are the smartest people: where should i learn perl coding ?
[12:09] <Drakx_> jaggy: the perl docs?
[12:09] <rhizo> mandrill,  you'd try mounting your dvd and see if you can share the mount point via ubuntu's intuitive sharing interface, but i never done it
[12:09] <Drakx_> always a good place to start ;)
[12:09] <jaggy> eh and where are they Drakx_
[12:09] <jaggy> :p
[12:09] <Drakx_> well i would say perl.org
[12:09] <Shyde> Tequil: there should be a bunch of other groups, how did you add yourself to that group?
[12:09] <jaggy> ty
[12:10] <Drakx_> yw
[12:10] <humbolto> I am using envy for the latest nvidia driver. Now, when I am trying to start Desktop Effects, restricted manager wants to install nvidia-glx-new. How to circumvent this?
[12:10] <plutarcus> hi all
[12:10] <wols>  !envy
[12:10] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:10] <wols> humbolto: look that the "not supported" part
[12:10] <astro76> jaggy, perhaps ask in #perl
[12:10] <Tequil> Shyde: I have used the following command: usermod -G development mvanbeusekom
[12:10] <jaggy> ty astro76 :p
[12:10] <rhizo> jaggy:  ask in #perl and you will be given a wealth of learning resources quickly
[12:10] <ere4si> I searched everywhere for an answer to this - I compiled my first kernel today and it added 1.5g to my system - is this normal?t
[12:10] <plutarcus> i'm having some troubles with Virtualbox
[12:10] <plutarcus> can someone help me?
[12:10] <Tequil> Shyde: I got this command from the book "Ubuntu unleashed"
[12:11] <wols> ere4si: you mean used diskspace?
[12:11] <mandrill> Rhizo: I can see the disc and have sgha4ed it via samba so the data is there. the thing is that it must have some sort of OS detection on it so I can't see the windows installation files only the Mac ones
[12:11] <rhizo> also, run "perldoc perl" ( install perldoc if needed )
[12:11] <mandrill> *shared
[12:11] <plutarcus> this is the problem
[12:11] <ere4si> wols: yep
[12:11] <Tidus> mandrill: what disk is this you're trying to read?
[12:11] <plutarcus> when i start the virtual machine
[12:11] <wols> ere4si: normal. sourcode takes lot of room
[12:11] <plutarcus> i can see
[12:11] <rhizo> mandrill:  how's that ubuntu related ?
[12:11] <humbolto> wols: don't see not "not supported" part?
[12:11] <wols> !enter | plutarcus
[12:11] <ubotu> plutarcus: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:12] <ere4si> wols: suprised it was so much
[12:12] <astro76> Tequil, that command replaces your entire group membership with what you list after -G, you needed -Ga
[12:12] <humbolto> wols: ah
[12:12] <wols> humbolto: envy is not supported here. ask elsewhere
[12:12] <Shyde> Tequil: I'm not too familiar with user and group management but seems it overwrote all groups and only added those 2
[12:12] <mandrill> the drive I'm trying to use in is a ubuntu machine
[12:12] <astro76> Tequil, also it's supposed to be group1,group2,group3 ...commas and no spaces
[12:13] <Tidus> mandrill: i run into that when I try to install world of warcraft in wine
[12:13] <astro76> Tequil, here is a list of default groups in Ubuntu so you can fix it: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[12:13] <astro76> Tequil, plus a group with the same name as your user
[12:13] <LuitvD> hi
[12:13] <Drakx_> hi
[12:13] <xerxes1358> Does Ubuntu/Linux has automatic support for Intel Wireless ?
[12:13] <Shyde> astro76: how can he add them when he doesn't have sudo rights anymore? Reboot into recovery?
[12:13] <plutarcus> ok, sorry. When i start the virtual machine, i can see this error: VirtualBox kernel driver not installed
[12:13] <plutarcus> VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel and execute '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv start' as root.
[12:13] <plutarcus> VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).
[12:13] <plutarcus> Codice&nbspd'uscita:
[12:13] <plutarcus> 0x80004005
[12:13] <plutarcus> Componente:
[12:13] <plutarcus> Console
[12:13] <plutarcus> Interfaccia:
[12:13] <plutarcus> IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}
[12:13] <wols> !paste | plutarcus
[12:13] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : ps2 wont connect now to internet =/
[12:13] <ubotu> plutarcus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <plutarcus>  
[12:13] <Drakx_> ubuntu does support ipw3945 its what im using now
[12:14] <jscinoz> is there a reason the nvidia-glx-new package is months out of date?
[12:14] <LuitvD> Does anybody know how long it'll take for Transmission 1.00 to get through in the Repositories?
[12:14] <Tidus> mandrill: the "ugly" way around it is to put the cd in, then open a terminal, go root (sudo -i), unmount the disk
[12:14] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, are you talking to me?
[12:14] <Drakx_> yes sorry xerxes1358
[12:14] <Tequil> astro76: I guess I need to be root user (or have su rights) to add myself to these groups'
[12:14] <Tidus> mandrill: then "mount -t iso9660 <path to cd drive> <where do you want to mount it>"
[12:14] <OD810> hi there
[12:14] <Tidus> that gave me the windows files instead of the mac ones
[12:14] <OD810> can anyone help me with configuring ATI Driver?
[12:14] <astro76> Shyde, Tequil yeah if you don't have any users with sudo access anymore, you will need to boot into recovery mode or with a livecd, and edit /etc/group adding your username to all the required group lines
[12:15] <mandrill> tidus: thanks I'll give that a go
[12:15] <plutarcus> ok, this is the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50844/
[12:15] <LuitvD> Does anybody know how long it'll take for Transmission 1.00 to get through in the Repositories?
[12:15] <Tequil> astro76, Shyde: great thank you very much for the help
[12:15] <OD810> I have a problem with my screen resolution with ATI Driver
[12:15] <Drakx_> LuitvD: no, download and compile it if you need it
[12:16] <OD810> can anyone help me please?
[12:16] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, so I install Ubuntu and the wireless configuration goes automatically? I remember some dude running linux had to use special software fiddeling around for 20 minutes just to get online
[12:16] <Tequil> astro76: I am going to try it out right now, you are a live safer ;)
[12:16] <squigly> od810: what's your prob?
[12:16] <Kalamansi> hello i can ping 192.168.2.1 my server ubuntu p1.but ping yahoo is not working with pc2
[12:16] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: install ubuntu then look at network-manager ;)
[12:16] <LuitvD> Drakx_: Okay... it's a shame the Repos have such an old version...
[12:16] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, I want to make sure before I start installing :D
[12:16] <OD810> squigly: i have 22" monitor but i cant get 1680x1050 resolution
[12:17] <plutarcus> when i search that package in Synaptic, i find two package, with the same name, one is installed, the other not
[12:17] <OD810> squigly: i'm using ATI driver installed via Envy
[12:17] <Drakx_> whats the intel wireless card? xerxes1358
[12:17] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: infact use the live cd then take a look at network-manager
[12:17] <Drakx_> you will know from there
[12:17] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, I dont know to be sure I have a Intel Centrino laptop with built in wireless card
[12:17] <squigly> 0d810: Sorry dude, this one isn't up my alley.
[12:18] <xerxes1358> Drakx_, yeah thats a excellent idea
[12:18] <Drakx_> xerxes1358: use the live cd!
[12:18] <OD810> squigly: it's alrite
[12:18] <OD810> squigly: thanks anyway
[12:18] <gahan> i'm using flash9 on gutsy and videos played for ex. on youtube are sometimes lagging, audio is fine, it's just the video, any idea?
[12:18] <bazhang> !envy | OD810
[12:18] <ubotu> OD810: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:18] <Rudd-O> hello guys
[12:19] <Rudd-O> I'm trying to get pulseaudio 0.9.8 for hardy, but compiled on gutsy
[12:19] <Rudd-O> how do I find the source deb package to recompile? and how do I recompile it?
[12:19] <OD810> ubotu: I've the driver installed properly already but the screen resolution just does not work at its max resolution
[12:19] <Rudd-O> where
[12:19] <Rudd-O> and how
[12:19] <PriceChild> !hardy | Rudd-O
[12:19] <ubotu> Rudd-O: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:19] <Drakx_> OD810: ubotu is a bot ;)
[12:19] <Rudd-O> I use GUTSY not hardy
[12:19] <Rudd-O> plus ubuntu+1 is empty
[12:19] <OD810> Drakx_: i just realised
[12:19] <Drakx_> lol
[12:20] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, we give suppose for gutsy here. not gutsy and hardy packages, gutsy.
[12:20] <OD810> Drakx_: do you know how to get 1680 x 1050 resolution with ATI driver
[12:20] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: I don't want gutsy support, I want a hyperlink where I can download the source package for gutsy, and maybe instructions on how to build a deb
[12:20] <Rudd-O> replace gutsy for hardy in that sntence
[12:20] <Rudd-O> I run gutsy here
[12:20] <OD810> Drakx_: i've changed the xorg.conf but it does not seem to work
[12:20] <Drakx_> OD810: sorry i dont i use a laptop with intel graphics
[12:20] <OD810> damn
[12:20] <Drakx_> OD810: did you restart x?
[12:21] <Tidus> Drakx_: he's looking for ati help, not intel graphics...
[12:21] <OD810> Drakx_: i did
[12:21] <Kalamansi> PriceChild : pc1 ubuntu server have internet connection. modem>server ubuntu pc1 > switch > pc2 .. pc2 have no internet connection now after running firestarter ...
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, so why mention hardy?
[12:21] <Drakx_> Tidus: i know, but im telling him i cannot help since i use intel not ati
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, apt-get source <packagename>
[12:21] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: just because I want to be accurate that I want the PA source package for hardy
[12:21] <Tidus> oh. sorry, misread
[12:21] <OD810> Tidus: you got solution?
[12:21] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, add a -b for it to build automatically for YOU
[12:21] <Tidus> OD810: have you tried using fglrxconfig ?
[12:21] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: apt-get source won't work because I only have the gutsy repos in my machine
[12:21] <Drakx_> Tidus: tis ok
[12:21] <PriceChild> gah caps
[12:21] <bidossessi> hi folks. new ubuntu user here; here is my cse: i have a 8OG  music and 160G video desktop that i want to use as a media center for my house. what are my options. i don't need TV support and all that
[12:22] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, packages.ubuntu.com then
[12:22] <Rudd-O> and I don't want to ad the hardy repos because I'm happy with gutsy
[12:22] <OD810> Tidus: Have not tried, try it now
[12:22] <PriceChild> Rudd-O, or add the gutsy repo
[12:22] <bazhang> OD810: use the recommended method NOT envy
[12:22] <Rudd-O> PriceChild: thanks
[12:22] <Rudd-O> btw what's envy
[12:22] <Tidus> bazhang: if i remember right, fglrxconfig is the recommended way
[12:22] <OD810> Rudd-O: an easy way to install ati driver
[12:22] <Tidus> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:22] <Rudd-O> does envy work fine?
[12:23] <OD810> Rudd-O: work fine except for resolution
[12:23] <Rudd-O> i have the standard ati driver with an R100 chip, which driver do you recommend to speed it up?
[12:23] <plutarcus> yes, and it's italian :D
[12:23] <bazhang> Tidus: I believe you are correct
[12:23] <wols> !envy | Rudd-O
[12:23] <ubotu> Rudd-O: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[12:23] <bidossessi> anyone?
[12:23] <wols> Rudd-O: there is none
[12:23] <Tidus> Rudd-O: R100... is that the radeon 7500?
[12:23] <wols> you already hve the fastest
[12:23] <Rudd-O> Tidus: yes I think, I have an ati mobility radeon XXXXM on my dell server
[12:24] <Tidus> Rudd-O: hm... my laptop has the 7500M in it
[12:24] <OD810> Rudd-O: as far as i can tell Envy has installed the ATi driver properly cos i got compiz and everything else working fine
[12:24] <bidossessi> hi folks. new ubuntu user here; here is my cse: i have a 8OG  music and 160G video desktop that i want to use as a media center for my house. what are my options? i don't need TV support and all that
[12:24] <OD810> except for the damn resolution
[12:24] <Kalamansi> hello my pc1 server ubuntu have internet but pc2 have no internet after i run firestarter..i need help please...
[12:25] <Rudd-O> compiz works too slowly here
[12:25] <Tidus> yeah, that's due to underpowered video card
[12:25] <wols> OD810: it doesn't you will have problems when upgrading. but talk about evny is OT here, so please doN't do it and don't ask or give any help using envy here
[12:25] <wild_oscar> anyone ever heard of suspend working two times and then stop working?
[12:25] <Tidus> Rudd-O: i wouldn't enable compiz on anything less than an nvidia 6600 or radeon x600
[12:25] <wols> Kalamansi: why do you need firestarter?
[12:26] <Kalamansi> wols : to monitor my workstations, what website they visit and if its illegal i will block?
[12:26] <Kalamansi> wols : like video streaming
[12:27] <hypn0> wols: what do you suggest
[12:27] <wols> Kalamansi: censorship is futile and simply stupid. especially if the part that censors is on the same machine
[12:27] <Rudd-O> ok got the link for the .dsc file
[12:27] <Rudd-O> how do I build it?
[12:27] <wols> hypn0: suggest for what?
[12:27] <wols> Rudd-O: dsc files can't be built. they're DeSCriptions
[12:27] <Rudd-O> wols: ok, how do I build the source then?
[12:27] <hypn0> wols: is a firewall pointless :-/
[12:27] <Rudd-O> not with configure make but with debuild and stuff
[12:28] <wols> rob: for what?
[12:28] <wols> hypn0: yes
[12:28] <wols> Rudd-O: build what?
[12:28] <hypn0> wols: even a hardware  one?
[12:28] <Hristo> Hello, is there any simple way in a shell script to transform a string from "file to read" in "file\ to\ read"?
[12:28] <wols> hypn0: we're not talking hardware here. we talk about firestarter
[12:29] <Rudd-O> wols build the package I downloded!
[12:29] <Rudd-O> (the source and diff and dsc)
[12:29] <wols> Rudd-O: and the package's name is?
[12:29] <Rudd-O> pulseaudio
[12:30] <wols> apt-get source pulseaudio
[12:30] <wols> add a "-b" if you wish
[12:30] <Rudd-O> what part of "apt-get source pulseaudio will build 0.9.7, NOT 0,.9.8" didn't I explain?
[12:30] <hypn0> wols: how do I find out what's using the connection then
[12:30] <dell_lin> how to download a file with url proxy or username and passwd in url ,from wget or with some other command
[12:30] <dell_lin> like this one [12:31] <wols> hypn0: netstat, iptraf, ntop, etc. now stop the pointless questions pleae
[12:31] <dell_lin> there are more content in url i just added some
[12:31] <wols> *please
[12:31] <Drakx_> dell_lin: man wget
[12:31] <Hristo> Hello, is there any simple way in a shell script to transform a string from "file to read" in "file\ to\ read"?
[12:31] <Rudd-O> hello there?
[12:31] <xerxes1358> What software do you guys use to manage and synchronize your iPods in linux ??
[12:31] <Rudd-O> Hristo: no idea
[12:32] <Rudd-O> xerxes1358: amarok
[12:32] <wols> xerxes1358: lots use gtkpod I think
[12:32] <bazhang> xerxes1358: amarok
[12:32] <xerxes1358> does amarok fully support iPod ?
[12:32] <Rudd-O> xerxes1358: afaik yes
[12:32] <xerxes1358> sweet
[12:32] <cyberix> How do I set Abiword to be the default over OO.Org writer?ä
[12:33] <elig> anyone able to ad hoc with a vista laptop
[12:33] <bazhang> xerxes1358: want a link?
[12:33] <hyua> hi, i use feisty, how do i custmomise my desktop to look like Vista?
[12:33] <elig> to ubuntu desktop
[12:33] <Drakx_> elig: use #windows
[12:34] <bazhang> haha
[12:34] <Sanyika> lol
[12:34] <elig> its not a windows problem
[12:34] <xerxes1358> Am I restricted to use KDE if I want amarok? I like to use Gnome.
[12:34] <bazhang> xerxes1358: you can mix and match
[12:34] <Skitt> you can use amarok with gnome
[12:34] <elig> i cant set up the ad hoc in ubuntu
[12:34] <Hristo> hyua, what do you mean ? You want the desktop effects ?
[12:35] <bazhang> elig: ad hoc wireless mode?
[12:36] <vwhydrowv> question, in ubuntu, how do you add items to the menu for special commands, or is this possible?
[12:37] <elig> i need to have it set like this (cable modem->wired router->ubuntu 7.10->ad hoc to vista)
[12:37] <elig> i cant get the adhoc to connect either way
[12:37] <Kalamansi> ok. wols . i disable the firestarter. but still i cannot connect pc2 to the internet.. before, i can connect it without running firestarter. after i run firestarter (like we configured by PrinceChild) now pc2 cannot connect to the internet
[12:37] <bazhang> elig: you want ubuntu box to server as a wireless access point?
[12:38] <elig> basically
[12:38] <bazhang> elig: any reason not to use ethernet for the vixta machine?
[12:39] <elig> its a laptop
[12:39] <Tequil> astro76: it worked using the rescue mode from the cd-rom, thanks a million
[12:39] <bazhang> elig: so no reason?
[12:39] <elig> plus my house is only wired for my two machones
[12:39] <astro76> Tequil, you're welcome
[12:39] <elig> machines
[12:40] <elig> i dont have any wires for ethernet
[12:40] <bazhang> elig: ethernet is quite cheap these days; is that the main hindrance?
[12:40] <elig> ive had this running when the ubuntu box runs xp pro
[12:40] <elig> no
[12:41] <Drakx_> elig: have you tried google?
[12:41] <elig> it my friends laptop its temporary
[12:41] <TheMafia> Can I get a more verbose log when using nm-applet and trying to estabalish a pptp tunnel?
[12:41] <elig> yes
[12:41] <elig> google is not my friend on this
[12:41] <bazhang> elig: never heard of this--you may want to post on the forums or get a router that has both wired and wireless
[12:42] <elig> yeah i got no replies in a week
[12:42] <elig> and im not buying more crap when this works in winblows
[12:43] <elig> 802.11 says that you can ad hoc with out a access point
[12:43] <bazhang> elig: how temporary?
[12:43] <Rudd-O> elig: true
[12:43] <Kalamansi> ill try to reboot
[12:43] <elig> as long as hes here
[12:43] <Enselic> !flash > Enselic
[12:43] <elig> ive had this up for like a week in xp pro
[12:44] <elig> ive set everything i can from ifconfig and iwconfig
[12:44] <aspin65100> gave up trying to solve my xserver problems and have gone back to SuSE
[12:44] <bazhang> elig: umm no idea, sorry.
[12:45] <elig> if i can get the two to connect i thinki can make it from there bc its just iptables
[12:45] <elig> after that
[12:45] <wols> elig: iptables has nothing to do with your problem, ever
[12:45] <elig> i can see the network
[12:45] <bazhang> elig: keep asking here--you may get lucky :}
[12:46] <wols> define "see the network"
[12:46] <Enselic> When I type about:plugins in firefox it appears as if many plugins can handle flv files, but I want the Adobes Flash 9 player should. How can I make sure that a particular plugin is what firefox uses to play flash files?
[12:46] <elig> wols my prob is not being able to connect to a ad hoc
[12:47] <elig> iptables to shae the connection
[12:47] <elig> share
[12:47] <elig> i need more root beer
[12:48] <zezelle> bonjour a vous
[12:48] <bazhang> elig: sorry I misunderstood--you want to use the ubuntu machine as a hotspot, correct?
[12:48] <elig> yes
[12:48] <zezelle> vous parler francais
[12:49] <elig> i cant either wifis to connect to another
[12:49] <humbolto> how to get the latest nvidia drivers and not break restricted-manager in conjunction with desktop-effects?
[12:49] <bazhang> !fr | zezelle
[12:49] <ubotu> zezelle: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:49] <zezelle> lien pour la france
[12:49] <elig> i can see the ad hoc on both ends but not connect
[12:50] <bazhang> is that even possible with ubuntu?
[12:50] <Shyde> elig: http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/216/hustle-ad-hoc-wireless-connections-from-linux-to-windows/ the part after the first command seems interesting
[12:50] <Shyde> Though that guy uses the network manager, don't know if you did
[12:50] <xerxes1358> I want to read the installation manuals where are they located ?
[12:51] <astro76> !install | xerxes1358
[12:51] <ubotu> xerxes1358: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:51] <xerxes1358> thanks
[12:52] <wols> elig: if XP does ICS you will need no iptables whatsoever
[12:53] <Shyde> he wants his ubuntu machine to do the sharing
[12:55] <idefix_> so how much cooler is efty than dapper?
[12:55] <bidossessi> would it be possible to use mythtv backend without the tv tuner stuff? i just need it for my personal video and music collection
[12:56] <elkbuntu> idefix_, edgy is two versions old now. gutsy gibbon is the newest
[12:56] <vince_> join #sy@QuakeNet
[12:57] <xerxes1358> When is the new ubuntu coming out ?
[12:57] <astro76> !hardy | xerxes1358 every 6 months
[12:57] <ubotu> xerxes1358 every 6 months: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:57] <xerxes1358> Thanks again
[12:58] <Attileri> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[12:58] <wols> bidossessi: afaik yes
[12:59] <bidossessi> thx
[12:59] <Ximal> morning all
[13:00] <crocd> hiall, I cannot get my mythtv username to work on mthweb, I have rechecked all my passwords and reset them.It still does not acceptthe password I gave it. The  mysql htaccess and all others are the same.
[13:00] <elig> ok back for more
[13:01] <elig> im sharing the connection from this ubuntu box
[13:01] <elig> it dual boots xp
[13:01] <wols> elig: can your XP ping your ubuntu?
[13:01] <elig> it works in xp
[13:01] <elig> its the same box
[13:01] <Ximal> croc ..
[13:01] <wols> elig: either you have two computers or NAT is nonsesnse
[13:02] <|ns|nR8> i shared an xp box connection to ubuntu
[13:02] <Ximal> crocd setup a seperate mysql username and login... i had the same issue with mysql before
[13:02] <wols> can the 2nd computer ping the first one? yes or no?
[13:02] <elig> but no i cant ping the laptop
[13:02] <aladdinsane> i have an annoying problem with filebrowsers (Thunar,Nautilus) when i try to open a folder on Disk A, Disk B and C always power up as well, is there a way/filebrowser that doesnt do this?
[13:02] <crocd> Ximal: OKi will try that.
[13:02] <Ximal> what are you trying to do crocd /
[13:02] <Ximal> ?
[13:02] <wols> elig: then iptables is irrelevant. what WLAN card is in your ubuntu and what driver do you use?
[13:03] <elig> its a belkinf5d7050
[13:03] <elig> using rt2x00usb
[13:03] <wols> elig: and that uses what wlan CHIP?
[13:03] <Ximal> oh yeah... to test out the issue crocd : go to add remove and download a mysql front end ... to test ur login and password visually and not just from prompt...
[13:03] <elig> ralink
[13:03] <elig> 2x00
[13:03] <elig> i cant remember
[13:03] <elig> it scans the air
[13:04] <Kalamansi> hello pc1 server ubuntu have internet connection..modem>server pc1 ubuntu>switch>pc2..pc2 have no internet connection but i can ping 192.168.2.1..eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[13:04] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[13:04] <elig> i get an AP from my neighbors but it a secure connection
[13:05] <eid> i have ad-hoc network of 2 ubuntu laptops, one of them is connected to internet, how can i connect the another one ?
[13:05] <void^> i think the rt2x00 driver in gutsy has some problems, it has never worked properly with any of my devices, both pci and usb. had to use the legacy driver instead.
[13:06] <vzduch> hi
[13:06] <vzduch> anyone know why a VirtualBox pkg that's listed w/ dpkg -l could not be removed using dpkg -e?  error says unable to read archive
[13:06] <elig> void wheres the legacy driver
[13:07] <void^> the ones on rt2x00.serialmonkey.com
[13:07] <crocd> Ximal: noluck I changed the username in password in the mysql.txt and restarted apache and mysql.  still no luck
[13:07] <Ximal> ok..
[13:07] <Ximal> hold on.. 1 moment croc
[13:07] <elig> oh a souce build
[13:07] <catia> flash
[13:08] <idefix_> elkbuntu is it worth upgrading?
[13:08] <Ximal> crocd : go to add remove and install MySql Administrator ...
[13:08] <Ximal> crocd : also you need to do a stop before you alter mysql server files and then a restart of the service to initiate and complete any changes in the files ..
[13:09] <crocd> Ximal: brb
[13:09] <Ximal> ok
[13:09] <elkbuntu> idefix_, if you have been happy with the LTS system, then waiting another few months and upgrading from LTS to LTS is worthwhile
[13:09] <Kalamansi> hello need help...i cannot connect pc2 to the internet....
[13:09] <elkbuntu> idefix_, otherwise, you'll be doing 3 upgrades or a complete reinstall
[13:09] <idefix_> I now have Dapper yeah \o/ :D
[13:10] <wols> Kalamansi: pc1 is running what?
[13:10] <Ximal> kalamansi are you on a router ?
[13:10] <Kalamansi> wols : pc1 (which im using it now which is the server)
[13:10] <bazhang> Kalamansi: pc2? what is on this system, and how are you trying to connect?
[13:10] <Kalamansi> Ximal : no i dont have router.
[13:10] <wols> Kalamansi: answer my question
[13:10] <Kalamansi> bazhang : eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:B5:9E:2B
[13:10] <Kalamansi>           inet addr:192.168.2.1  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[13:10] <Ximal> Then what are you doing ? using 2 nic cards to share the connection ?
[13:11] <Kalamansi> wols : pc1 is running as server ubuntu 7.10 .. modem>server pc1 ubuntu>switch>pc2
[13:11] <Ximal> Ok first off kalamansi ; do not use dual 192 addresses for the different nick cards ..
[13:11] <idefix_> elkbuntu, the last command I ran was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:11] <Ximal> Let the first card draw the ip address of your internet connection..
[13:11] <wols> Kalamansi: does pc1 haev 2 network cards or network interfaces?
[13:11] <idefix_> if I do that a couple more times, nothing can go wrong right?
[13:12] <Ximal> Second Kalamansi : you will need to not try and use any dhcp since you will be SHARING the service and not actuall BE the service of internet..
[13:12] <Ximal> So you will want to setup like a 101.1.5.x
[13:12] <Ximal> not a 192.x.x.x
[13:12] <Kalamansi> wols : 2 nics. 1 is built-in. and 2 is cnet
[13:12] <elkbuntu> idefix_, that will only take you up one version at a time. if you wait for Hardy to be released, you'll be able to go up 4 versions at once
[13:12] <Ximal> this way you don't get your system confused ... Don't setup dhcp either... Just set the second dhcp to be shared ..
[13:12] <Ximal> errr set the second NIC to be shared..
[13:13] <Ximal> nic 1 = internet connection nic 2 = specified ip address set by you and shared with network as internet connection for any other system ..
[13:13] <cvasilak> is there anyone that successfully connects wirelessly using an atheros 5418 chipset?
[13:13] <wols> Kalamansi: is ipmasq installed on pC1?
[13:13] <idefix_> but I cannot burn a DVD or CD on my PC
[13:13] <idefix_> upgrading only takes 10 mins per version
[13:13] <Kalamansi> wols : let me tell you what i did first
[13:13] <bazhang> cvasilak: is that the atheros_swan?
[13:15] <cvasilak> bazhang, its an atheros 5418 chipset, i use the latest svn for madwifi, it brings up ath0 interface but it can associate with the access point so dhclient fails to acquire ip address
[13:15] <Kalamansi> wols : sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:16] <xerxes1358> Do you guys know what Linux REALLY needs in 2008 ?
[13:16] <mandrill> tidus, that did it thanks very much :D
[13:16] <wols> Kalamansi: stupid way to do it. insecure too
[13:16] <bazhang> cvasilak: have you tried setting it manually?
[13:16] <wols> Kalamansi: you edit your /etc/network/interfaces  for static IP, then install ipmasq and you are done
[13:16] <fsckr> xerxes1358, better sound support?
[13:16] <fsckr> LOL
[13:16] <xerxes1358> fsckr, yeah that too
[13:16] <eid> how to share internet connection over ad-hoc
[13:16] <eid> ?
[13:16] <xerxes1358> but really important
[13:16] <Tidus> mandrill: not a problem
[13:16] <wols> eid: do you have a connection via ad hoc already?
[13:17] <xerxes1358> INTEGRATED VM Ware support like VM Ware FUSION on Mac os X!!!
[13:17] <xerxes1358> now thats what really is important
[13:17] <cvasilak> bazhang, i tried iwconfig ath0 essid linksys to set the essid and then run dhclient, i am not using any wep or wpa
[13:17] <Tidus> xerxes1358: but, that integrated vmware support relies on those core2duo chips having intel's VT technology in it
[13:17] <Kalamansi> wols : i dont have static ip. its dynamic.my isp gave me an antena and login pass. when i login to the internet i just browse any website and it point me to their website then login...
[13:17] <vwhydrowv> im getting failted to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/  on almost every update when i check for updates, any suggestions?
[13:17] <Tidus> that's how it runs
[13:17] <xerxes1358> And by integrated I mean that you dont have to work in a small stupid vm ware screen but that the apps are integrated and all the menus etc..
[13:18] <eid> wols , yes. i have to laptops running ubuntu 7.10 , one of them connected by on eth0 to adsl-modem
[13:18] <wols> Kalamansi: your LAN ip will be static
[13:18] <wols> eid: on the one with the modem: install ipmasq
[13:18] <xerxes1358> Tidus, yes but if you have core2duo and Linux you still dont have integrated menus
[13:18] <Tidus> xerxes1358: true, but they'll never implement that until at least 90% of computers out there running linux are core duo or better
[13:18] <xerxes1358> like VM Fusion
[13:19] <Tidus> i still got a pair of pentium 2s running linux
[13:19] <vwhydrowv> nm, router is down
[13:19] <xerxes1358> Tidus, lots of them are already.
[13:19] <^^gabriel^^> Guess that rules out my pentium II 400.
[13:19] <Kalamansi> wols : this is my pico /etc/network/interfaces  "auto lo
[13:19] <Kalamansi> iface lo inet loopback"
[13:19] <Tidus> and what about those of us who have semi-recent hardware, but doesn't have hardware virtualization support?
[13:19] <Tidus> like my p4 laptop
[13:19] <xerxes1358> ^^gabriel^^, the P2 was actually quiet a good cpu in his time :) I had one too
[13:20] <^^gabriel^^> I have several.
[13:20] <xerxes1358> remember upgrading from 350 to 400 !
[13:20] <astro76> !ot
[13:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:20] <eid> wols, what i have to do ?
[13:20] <xerxes1358> what boost in those times :D ^^gabriel^^
[13:20] <wols> Kalamansi: yes and it is wrong. you lack entries for eth0. and it's not even a ubuntu made interfaces wifle
[13:20] <^^gabriel^^> My first was apple II+.
[13:20] <wols> eid: I already told you
[13:20] <vzduch> problem solved, thx anyway
[13:20] <Kalamansi> wols how to correct that?
[13:21] <eid> wols, i installed ipmasq
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: by adding a static IP for your eth0
[13:21] <xerxes1358> Hardware will follow software You build the functionality support and people will buy hardware for it.
[13:21] <wols> eid: then you should be done if your static IPs are set up correctly
[13:21] <xerxes1358> ok guys my ubuntu cd is freshly toased
[13:21] <xerxes1358> wish me luck installing ununtu
[13:21] <Kalamansi> wols what is the cheat sheet command for adding?
[13:21] <^^gabriel^^> 'luck'
[13:21] <wols> mandrill: there is none
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: there is none
[13:21] <Kalamansi> all i know is this sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:21] <wols> Kalamansi: man interfaces
[13:22] <wols> Kalamansi: repeating it won't make it better
[13:22] <xerxes1358> How long does the install take btw?
[13:22] <xerxes1358> on a coreduo 1.6ghz 1gb
[13:22] <wols> Kalamansi: and just blindly following a howto on the net you found isn't a good solution either
[13:22] <Tidus> i remember a while back an old debian script that's in the repos that can do that for you...
[13:22] <Tidus> just cant remember what the name of it was
[13:22] <Tidus> set up ipmasq and forwarding for you
[13:22] <xerxes1358> .
[13:22] <th0r> wolsm actually they were commands given to him earlier this morning here
[13:23] <wols> Tidus: it's called "ipmasq"
[13:23] <wols> th0r: doesn't make it any better either
[13:23] <Tidus> ah yes, that one
[13:23] <th0r> wols :)
[13:23] <Tidus> xerxes1358: about 30 minutes
[13:23] <^^gabriel^^> xerxes did you checksum the download b4 you burned the iso?
[13:23] <Kalamansi> wols : can i just copy the sample of man interfaces and put it in /etc/network/interfaces ? im not good in command typos and scripting...
[13:24] <mandrill> wols eh?
[13:24] <wols> mandrill: wrong key, sorry
[13:24] <mandrill> wols: heh np. :)
[13:25] <^^gabriel^^> look at it this way, my keyboard has mostly 'wrong' keys at any given moment.
[13:25] <Kalamansi> wols : any cheat sheet for this?
[13:26] <wols> yes. man interfaces is a great cheat sheet
[13:26] <bidossessi> i see there's a mythbuntu iso. anyone knows if i could run it without a tuner card?
[13:26] <eid> wols, the ad-hoc network does not any more
[13:26] <Lupin^> How do i activate window switching with ALT+TAB in ubuntu? It doesn't work here when i set visual effects to "None"... with visual effects it works
[13:27] <bidossessi> the thing is that i don't have internet access at home, so i have to take back something that just works
[13:27] <wols> eid: this sentence no verb
[13:27] <Kalamansi> wols is it ok to copy the sample?
[13:27] <TonKi> Lupin^: have a look in preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[13:27] <wols> Kalamansi: unlikely
[13:27] <Kalamansi> wols im not good in scripting... =/
[13:28] <wols> this is not scripting. and I don't do handholding
[13:28] <bazhang> bidossessi: try geexbox
[13:29] <th0r> wols I see you have caught up with some of us <smile>
[13:29] <Tidus> wols: and apparently you don't do much answering either...
[13:29] <Kalamansi> th0r : the one that you did together with bulmer is working lately..but when i reboot pc2 cannot connect internet anymore =/
[13:29] <wols> Tidus: if you've been around some time you knew I do answer a lot
[13:30] <wols> but I don't like people who want to have done everything for them. if they are that lazy and unwilling to elar: hire a conslutant
[13:30] <bazhang> Tidus: more than most actually
[13:30] <wols> *unwilling to learn
[13:30] <^^gabriel^^> wols: that's how my kids feel.
[13:30] <wols> Tidus: IRC is not your unpaid professional consultant who does your work for you
[13:31] <Tidus> bazhang: less helpful than most i've seen too.
[13:32] <bazzieb> what other way is there to edit a file but not vi??
[13:32] <Tidus> !editor
[13:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[13:32] <Jowi> bazzieb, "nano" is very simple. my favourite.
[13:32] <bazzieb> nano was what i was looking for, thanks
[13:32] <bazhang> Tidus: wols is one of the best here imo
[13:32] <th0r> Tidus nope...I think your offbase here
[13:32] <^^gabriel^^> Everybody gets stuck sometime.  I wouldn't help anyone who wasn't making any effort either.
[13:33] <bazhang> !ot | Tidus
[13:33] <ubotu> Tidus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:33] <Tidus> bazhang: i'm not a retard. i know what's OT and what's not
[13:33] <bidossessi> conslutant; loool
[13:33] <Kalamansi> i guess you guys need to give some simple howtos so that ubuntu will be well-known and kicked windows out of the box
[13:33] <wols> Tidus: then don't act like one and take ot stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:33] <Lupin^> TonKi what setting do i have to make?
[13:33] <bazhang> Tidus: ease it up
[13:34] <wols> Tidus: and if you want to complain about my attitude: tell an op. !ops <blah>
[13:34] <Kalamansi> well im a windows user tho. and im tired of using linksys router
[13:34] <wols> Tidus: but be careful
[13:34] <Kalamansi> always have a problem with internet connection
[13:34] <Kalamansi> whew
[13:34] <Lupin^> TonKi i think i found it, thanks
[13:34] <elkbuntu> wols, we already know how rude you are, and are getting very sick of it.
[13:34] <TonKi> Lupin^: is "move between windows with popup" bound to alt-tab?
[13:35] <PriceChild> I want to find out which input my inbuilt mic is on. Is there a program I can use to easily see volume levels when I shout at my laptop and change capture volumes of the different devices
[13:35] <Kalamansi> bulmer was one of a kind tho
[13:35] <Kalamansi> but thank wols
[13:35] <bazhang> Kalamansi: yeah, they are problematic with all systems in my experience--asus are much better imo--but I am way offtopic; sorry!
[13:35] <Kalamansi> i think you wols have limited friends in the real life
[13:35] <Kalamansi> hehe
[13:35] <wols> elkbuntu: I#ve told you before so I won't do it again
[13:35] <Kalamansi> thanks wols you did help me before
[13:35] <Lupin^> TonKi it was ctrl+alt+e O_o
[13:36] <Lupin^> but i change it now, thanks :)
[13:36] <TonKi> change it ;)
[13:36] <Kalamansi> bazhang i sick of linksys router..thats why im trying to learn ubuntu as my first time os ever. i was born in windows.
[13:37] <Tidus> we all start somewhere
[13:37] <neil_d> I am trying to get a VirtualBox guest (ubuntu) connected to the internet, I have tried many things none have work :( I need some help
[13:37] <bazhang> Kalamansi: new to linux myself--googling around and the forums led me to asus routers wired and wireless all in one
[13:38] <Tidus> Kalamansi: is your /etc/network/interfaces (or something similar, never can remember file names) set up so one nic is hardcoded to a static ip, the other dhcp ?
[13:38] <Tidus> and also keep in mind on ubuntu, you'll have to disable networkmanager to make this work
[13:38] <elkbuntu> wols, no, please do tell me.
[13:38] <Kalamansi> bazhang : whats the uptime of your router?
[13:38] <Kalamansi> Tidus : i dont know im pissed
[13:38] <jaggy> how do i swap a file's rights ( root , normal users ... ) so everyone can use it ???
[13:38] <Kalamansi> Tidus and i think i will try endian than ubuntu
[13:38] <elkbuntu> wols, if you dont want to say it here, you know where to say it
[13:39] <wols> !permisions | jaggy
[13:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about permisions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:39] <bidossessi> 'jaggy man chmod/chown'
[13:39] <Tidus> jaggy: chmod 1777 <file> as root
[13:39] <Kalamansi> my ubuntu still running i love it its fast
[13:39] <wols> Tidus: please don't. makes baby jesus cry
[13:39] <jaggy> ty Tidus i didn't know the number :p
[13:39] <wols> !permissions | jaggy
[13:39] <ubotu> jaggy: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[13:39] <Tidus> already had a grasp of the command, couldn't remember mode numbers
[13:40] <Kalamansi> ubuntu is fast i cant delete virus from usb also that came from windows thats what also i loved
[13:40] <Tidus> jaggy: if you can't remember the mode numbers, you can use the mode letters that are found in the man page for chown
[13:40] <Kalamansi> i mean "i can" not cant
[13:40] <jaggy> it wasn't there :s
[13:40] <Tidus> err... chmod rather
[13:40] <Kalamansi> bazhang : compare the price of linksys to asus?
[13:41] <Tidus> wols: this is how i learned.  get walked through it a couple times, then rtfm
[13:41] <Kalamansi> Tidus : auto lo
[13:41] <Kalamansi> iface lo inet loopback
[13:41] <bazhang> Kalamansi: I'm afraid of being nailed for offtopic--care to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[13:42] <Kalamansi> Tidus : i can connect pc2 to the internet with the help of bulmer and th0r. but when i run firestarter and reboot, the pc2 cannot connect to the internet its weird.
[13:42] <Tidus> Kalamansi: if you want this to work, you'll have to disable NetworkManager in the services config (and for the life of me, i can't remember where that is too)
[13:42] <wols> Tidus: I learned by lots of trying and reading stuff myself (back then no broadband but pay for the minute dialup. idling and asking on irc would be way too costly)
[13:42] <Tidus> Kalamansi: it's because firestarter wipes out iptables entirely
[13:42] <Kalamansi> Tidus : firestarter is not running now
[13:43] <wols> Tidus: network manager meddles with your manual interfaces settings? worse software than I thought this
[13:43] <Tidus> Kalamansi: yes, this is understood. however, when you start firestarter, it clears iptables out entirely, meaning all the NAT rules are gone
[13:43] <pete2> hello
[13:43] <Tidus> wols: yes, NetworkManager is meant to be a zeroconfig solution for portables
[13:43] <wols> Kalamansi: your ifconfig commandline needs to be run EVERY time you boot. which is the reason it's such a bad solution
[13:44] <Tidus> it'll override what's set in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:45] <bazzieb> kk
[13:45] <Kalamansi> wols Tidus what to do now? this is the command that i know 255.255.255.0
[13:46] <Kalamansi> i mean this  sudo ifconfig eth2 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0, then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward , and last iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[13:46] <wols> that is not a command but a netmask
[13:46] <bullgard4> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/arch contains several architecture-specific directories and files including a 'sh' directory. What does 'sh' stand for?
[13:46] <elig> anyone there
[13:46] <Kalamansi> wols : but i can connec pc2 before when bulmer thought me that command. but now it wont
[13:46] <wols> Kalamansi: I told you time and again to set up a static IP in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:47] <Kalamansi> wols i dont know to set up =/ i am not good in scripting =/
[13:47] <wols> Kalamansi: either you start at least trying, or you can ask about this forevre in here for all I care
[13:47] <Kalamansi> or whatever they call it like typing words
[13:47] <Kalamansi> or letters
[13:48] <pete2> i have problem with ubuntu scanner support, i bought HP M1005 MFP, printer works perfectly, but scanner just dont get detected in system, any tips how to fix this ? any help is apriciated. tnx
[13:48] <Kalamansi> i can install os its easy
[13:48] <Kalamansi> hehe
[13:48] <wols> pete2: check http://www.sane-project.org/ if the scanner is supported
[13:48] <pete2> tnx wols
[13:48] <^^gabriel^^> wols: I think Kalamansi means 'terminal commands'.
[13:48] <Kalamansi> but this typing letters im not good. not like in windows you will just obtain it and there
[13:49] <Kalamansi> or click it
[13:49] <Kalamansi> yeah terminal or console
[13:49] <wols> ^^gabriel^^: he means "please tell me exactly what magic commands I have to type in to make it all work miracoulously". and I am not gonna do that
[13:49] <^^gabriel^^> lol
[13:50] <wols> Kalamansi: you do know how to edit files?
[13:50] <th0r> we talked Kalamansi through all this once this morning, but he doesn't follow what is going on, so when he reboot the machines he lost everything.
[13:51] <RenatoSilva> What's a backport update?
[13:51] <Kalamansi> th0r i did follow what you and bulmer taught. but when i reboot its gone. pc2 cannot connect to hell
[13:51] <larson9999> do newer versions of adobe flash not have the *.xpt file?  i downloaded the tgz from adobe and i don't see it in there.
[13:51] <WorkingOnWise> !clone
[13:51] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:51] <Kalamansi> im such a noob
[13:51] <holymoo> larson9999: appearently not
[13:52] <pete2> wols, it is all-in-one printer/scanner/copier so i dont see it on sane-project,
[13:52] <savage1> hey guys
[13:52] <Kalamansi> wols : i can setup network also
[13:52] <tssom> What is the diference between Ubuntu Dapper Edgy etc..? And how to i know witch i have?
[13:52] <Kalamansi> wols : cabling also and im good in hardware troubleshooting
[13:52] <RenatoSilva> what's totem xine?
[13:52] <savage1> can i make my main ubuntu box setup so my other machines can network boot off of it and get full desktop features?
[13:53] <Kalamansi> wols im good in hardware troubleshooting. but im noob in linux
[13:53] <th0r> RenatoSilva video player software
[13:53] <wols> Kalamansi: that's all nice and dandy but a) if you can't configure a network you can't set one up  b) this is all OT here what you can and can't do. I asked you a specific question. please answer it
[13:53] <th0r> RenatoSilva probably more accurately...multimedia player software
[13:54] <wols> savage1: LTSP
[13:54] <Kalamansi> wols edit yes i can
[13:54] <darkghost2> hu hu
[13:54] <Kalamansi> edit files yes
[13:54] <darkghost2> hi
[13:54] <Spide1> hello everyone.
[13:54] <Kalamansi> wols edit files yes. but scripting in terminal i dont know
[13:54] <Spide1> I was wondering if anyone here would be familiar with Ubuntu installation problems...
[13:55] <Spide1> <---newb
[13:55] <th0r> Spide1 be specific
[13:55] <savage1> should i aptget ltsp?
[13:55] <Spide1> Well, when I load up off the CD, it eventually just gives me a garbled Ubuntu logo, and goes back to a black screen, saying it's loading scripts, then goes back to the garbled screen, and so on so forth indefinitely.
[13:56] <th0r> savage1 no...you should look up the Linux Terminal Server Project (ltsp). it is what you want
[13:56] <wols> savage1: you should read about it first. not trivial to setup
[13:56] <darkghost2> what you think about ubuntu?
[13:56] <tssom> Is ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy?
[13:56] <wols> !ot | darkghost2
[13:56] <ubotu> darkghost2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:56] <darkghost2> yes
[13:56] <wols> tssom: yes
[13:56] <tssom> ok, thanks
[13:56] <th0r> Spide1 sounds like the download or the burn went badly. Did you do the md5 checksum on the download?
[13:56] <jimbo> !ot | me
[13:56] <ubotu> me: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:57] <webjames> hi can someone go to http://uk.playstation.com/ and see if they can navigate the page, the flash background seems to overlay over the content
[13:57] <Spide1> Well, I've done multiple downloads, and multiple burns, they all come out the same...
[13:57] <savage1> thanks this is exactly what I'm looking for
[13:57] <darkghost2> ubotu: ne diyon ya
[13:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ne diyon ya - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:57] <savage1> the possibilities are great
[13:57] <xerxes1358> Hello
[13:57] <xerxes1358> again
[13:58] <darkghost2> hello
[13:58] <xerxes1358> He guys I need some help here on setting my harddrive up
[13:58] <savage1> i'm going to test this on about a 200 brand new machine w/ no cdrom just processor and ram and motherboard and see how well a diskless workstation works
[13:58] <Spide1> Also, when loading up oftentimes I get I/O errors and the like.
[13:58] <savage1> I'm thinking a home w/ up to 5 of these and one decent server w/ raid 1 and a gigabit switch and call it a day
[13:58] <ere4si> Spide1, installing on a laptop?
[13:58] <xerxes1358> I have a 80gb hd. I want to assign 20gb to Linux + apps and the rest of to data. What do I need to do ?
[13:58] <^^gabriel^^> Spide1: follow th0r's excellent advice.
[13:58] <Spide1> yessir.
[13:58] <Kalamansi> how to install ATI? my videocard is ATI
[13:59] <RenatoSilva> I'm testing Pidgin plugins please someone send me a message
[13:59] <th0r> Spide1 if you are getting IO errors it sounds like the cd drive itself might be bad
[13:59] <Spide1> hmmm.
[13:59] <th0r> Spide1 did you burn on this cd drive or a different one?
[14:00] <Spide1> the md5 bit you mentioned, that's the CD error test at the boot screen no?
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> test
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> test
[14:00] <Spide1> nah, I burned it on my own laptop, then used it on the one in question.
[14:00] <darkghost2> test
[14:00] <RenatoSilva> darkghost2: sorry rs
[14:00] <^^gabriel^^> Spide1: no, it checks the dl for errors.
[14:00] <th0r> Spide1 no, the md5 checksum will verify that the iso download is good. the CD error test on the boot screen you never reach, right?
[14:00] <Kalamansi> !ati
[14:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:01] <th0r> Spide1 if you burned on a different drive...did you use a very slow speed to burn (very good idea)
[14:01] <Spide1> I do reach it, but I get I/O errors and the like when I try to install.
[14:01] <RenatoSilva> What's backport updates?
[14:01] <^^gabriel^^> th0r: yes, i had to burn at 8x 'fore it worked.
[14:01] <xerxes1358> I have a 80gb hd. I want to assign 20gb to Linux + apps and the rest of to data. What do I need to do ?
[14:01] <darkghost2> updates
[14:01] <th0r> Spide1 sometimes differences in head alignment on two drives will give the sort of problems you are having, and doing a slow burn might help
[14:01] <RenatoSilva> What's backport updates?
[14:02] <ere4si> !backports
[14:02] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[14:02] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: make partition 1 78.5GB, and give it a mount point of "/home", and a file system of ext3. partition 2 20GB, and give it a mount point of "/" and a file system or ext2, and the rest as a swap partiton.
[14:02] <darkghost2> ben kaçar herkese iyi akşamlar(tr) Good evening(eng)
[14:02] <th0r> Spide1 yeah...those io errors mean your drive isn't reading the cd correctly. Two possibilities...the drive is going bad, or head misalignment.  A slow burn might help the alignment. As for the drive going bad...well....
[14:02] <Spide1> th0r really? Never knew that....
[14:03] <Spide1> don't suppose I can install from a USB drive...
[14:03] <th0r> Spide1 you can if the computer will boot from a usb drive. The newest ones supposedly can
[14:04] <crocd> is anyone having problems with spacebar not reponding or suddenly repeating and adding spaces whilst typing? My system is kubuntu on gutsy amd64. I am also use a belking kvm
[14:04] <Spide1> I guess I need to do a slow burn then...
[14:05] <Spide1> see if that helps. See, the weird part is it installed fine the first time, but then it kept crashing
[14:05] <Spide1> and freezing, and all sorts of unpleasant things.
[14:05] <th0r> Spide1 that would be my first suggestion
[14:05] <WorkingOnWise> crocd:  is the keyboard u are having troubles with plugged into the kvm?
[14:05] <th0r> Spide1 are you trying to reinstall?
[14:05] <Spide1> yes.
[14:06] <savage1> did you try another keyboard
[14:06] <th0r> funny how these things sort of trickle out
[14:06] <larson9999> wonder if i'll get 64bit to quit locking up or just go back to 32
[14:06] <savage1> it's probably either the keyboard or the kvm, probably a highly technical spilled beer situation
[14:06] <th0r> Spide1 are you booting off the CD or trying to run it after boot?
[14:06] <Spide1> booting off the CD
[14:07] <spee> does the ATI driver from the ati website for the mobility x1400 work with compiz and compositing windows?
[14:07] <spee> i remember beryl kinda suckin' when it came to ATI cards
[14:07] <th0r> Spide1 then it should work...I would suggest first a clean burn at a slow speed (no more than 8X...I usually use 2X)
[14:07] <elig> you know i cant get the drivers to compile
[14:07] <spee> if i use a generic ATI driver i have to disable compositing in the xorg conf to get anything to work
[14:07] <elig> anyone using the rt2570 drivers
[14:07] <Spide1> well, let me do the mp5 bit...is that something I can get off the Ubuntu site, or a seperate program?
[14:07] <spee> does the ATI driver from the site work properly? is true transparency working with ATI cards and these drivers?
[14:08] <th0r> !md5 | Spide1
[14:08] <ubotu> Spide1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[14:09] <IanLiu> I want to find all folders named 'CVS' under a tree of folders, how I do it?
[14:09] <sivaji> how to change my DNS address ?
[14:09] <bullgard4> There is a low-activity channel named '##kernel' in this network with the Topic: "2.{6.{24-{rc6,rc6-mm1},23.12,22.15,20.21,16.57},4.{36,35.5,34.6,33.7},2.{27-rc2,26},0.40}." Why has been made this specific choice of kernels?
[14:09] <dm> Hello. Anyone from from Halle, Germany here who owns an original 7.10 or 7.04 CD and wants to sell it?
[14:09] <vwhydrowv> i have a removable drive hooked up, ntfs, but the file system is showing up fusblk, any ideas why
[14:09] <vwhydrowv> ?
[14:09] <ksivaji> how to change my DNS address ?
[14:10] <wols> ksivaji: define "my DNS address" please?
[14:10] <IanLiu> ksivaji: sudo network-admin
[14:10] <vwhydrowv> system-administration-network ks
[14:10] <xerxes1358> .
[14:10] <wols> do you mean change what DNS server you use or change your DNS entry on the internet?
[14:10] <xerxes1358> Test
[14:10] <bullgard4> ksivaji: Usually your Internet provider will allocate this DNS address to you. So you need to ask your Internet provider to do so.
[14:11] <ksivaji> wols DNS address 192.168.1.1 address of domain name system
[14:11] <bobbob1016> I just discovered ssh, and that you can open apps (gui or text) through it.  I have a question though, how would I launch a program that was already running, as in I have a program running under my username on another machine already, and I want to bring that same instance here, is that possible?
[14:11] <xerxes1358> Ok where to find the manual for manual disc installation in ubuntu?
[14:11] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: did u see my question?
[14:11] <IanLiu> I want to remove all CVS folders from a tree of folders... How is the best way to do it?
[14:12] <xerxes1358> WorkingOnWise: no
[14:12] <th0r> bobbob1016 not possible via ssh...but possibly using vnc or nx
[14:12] <ksivaji> bullgard4 no i am using open dns now i wnat to use my default dns address 192.168.1.1 how to do that ?
[14:12] <Jowi> bobbob1016, you use "screen" command or "nohup" depending on what you want to do.
[14:12] <WorkingOnWise> first i would plug the same keyboard into the comouter to eliminate the kvm as a problem.''
[14:13] <Jowi> bobbob1016, but then the app must first be launched with "screen"
[14:13] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, I'm guessing you mean directions on how to do an alternate install, there is an old video on google-video/youtube, it was for 5.10 (breezy), but the general idea is the same
[14:13] <pulse00> hi there, i'm trying to install an ubuntu live iso on an usb-stick. should i take the regular iso found at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download?
[14:13] <bobbob1016> Jowi, so I launch the app on the remote app with screen in the launcher?
[14:13] <pulse00> can't find any special live image
[14:13] <IanLiu> I tried find -r 'CVS' with no success
[14:13] <WorkingOnWise> xerxes1358: werent u asking about a keyboard repeat problem?
[14:14] <bullgard4> ksivaji: If there is a router in your LAN and you are using DHCP you will need to re-program your router for another address of your computer.
[14:14] <fenix_> hello, is posible ask debian issues here?
[14:14] <scguy318> pulse00: that would do I believe
[14:14] <wols> fenix_: why not ask #debian?
[14:14] <Jowi> bobbob1016, yes. you can then logout, have a coffee, log back in and continue the screen session (with the running up still going strong)
[14:14] <xerxes1358> bobbob1016: much simpler. I want to do a manual disc resizing. Much like fdisk you know. I just dont know what the minimal requirements are for linux I remember you need 1 swap file a la 512 mb, / and a /home swap needs swap format and the rest can be reiserfs ?
[14:15] <Jowi> !info screen | bobbob1016
[14:15] <xerxes1358> I need to find a manual that guides me
[14:15] <ubotu> bobbob1016: screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[14:15] <pulse00> scguy318, i copied the content of the iso to the usb-stick and made it bootable using syslinux -f /dev/sde1, but when booting from it, i get "no operation system found" or something, displayed too short to remember
[14:15] <fenix_> wols: because in my local channel (spanish) people are stupid
[14:15] <bullgard4> fenix_: Some problems are Debian-specific, other problems are common to Ubuntu and Debian. Is your
[14:15] <ksivaji> bullgard4 i have router and using DHCP how re-program your router for another address of your computer. ?
[14:15] <Jowi> !screen | bobbob1016 (some nice links)
[14:15] <ubotu> bobbob1016 (some nice links): screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[14:15] <wols> you seem to be able to talk english just fine. use #debian then
[14:15] <bazhang> xerxes1358: something like reconstructor?
[14:15] <bobbob1016> Jowi, Thanks
[14:15] <fenix_> wols: ok ,thanks
[14:16] <vwhydrowv> im trying to get ntfs-3g configured, its mounting the hd, but im not seeing the mount point in fstab, can someone please help me with this?
[14:16] <xerxes1358> bazhang: no idea what that is.
[14:16] <xerxes1358> Is there no fdisk ?
[14:16] <WorkingOnWise> got my ppl mixed up. sorry xerxes1358
[14:16] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, If you want to partition the drive first, there is a gparted live disc
[14:16] <th0r> Jowi see...learn something new every day <smile>
[14:16] <wols> vwhydrowv: in fstab only "static" mounts are listed. if it's dynamic, some form of automounter handles it. check your /etc/mtab
[14:17] <mahogny> is there a way to get a raw list of names of PCI devices? that is not affected by detection? a kernel module doesn't want to load and I want to see if the card is working at all
[14:17] <bazhang> http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/ xerxes1358
[14:17] <Jowi> th0r, yeah screen is an incredible thing once you get used to it.
[14:17] <vwhydrowv> wols, can i assign it a static mount?
[14:17] <xerxes1358> bobbob1016: ok I have an 80gb disc. What to make first ? Guide me through pleae
[14:17] <th0r> Jowi installing it now...a new toy
[14:17] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, Do you have data on it?
[14:18] <savage1> question:  I'm following these ltsp setup instructions, and the step here wants me to run this command "sudo invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server restar"
[14:18] <vwhydrowv> and if so, how
[14:18] <savage1> w/ the t at the end, my bad
[14:18] <bullgard4> ksivaji: This will be dependent on your specific router, how to program your router. With me at home, I would have to enter a special address in my Internet browser to access my router and re-program it. But it may differ with your router.
[14:18] <xerxes1358> bobbob1016: no nothing important just vista :D
[14:18] <savage1> but anyways, I get unknown initscript
[14:18] <b4ckd00red> hi all!
[14:18] <IanLiu> How do I start the Ubuntu Finder (to look for files) with root permitions?
[14:19] <vwhydrowv> backdoored, hrm that must of been painful, hehe
[14:19] <b4ckd00red> gksudo?
[14:19] <b4ckd00red> vwhydrowv: ????
[14:19] <IanLiu> I never used GKSudo... how I use it?
[14:19] <vwhydrowv> u know what backdoored means?
[14:19] <b4ckd00red> yes
[14:19] <vwhydrowv> ok
[14:19] <b4ckd00red> because i write rootkits
[14:20] <IanLiu> !gksudo
[14:20] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[14:20] <vwhydrowv> no ill msg u another meaning
[14:20] <kbrooks> b4ckd00red, we cannot help you
[14:20] <b4ckd00red> should r00t ur box? lol
[14:20] <wols> vwhydrowv: yes. mount it by UUID (I guess it's a usb drive or such)
[14:20] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, Not sure how good linux partitioners are with ntfs on vista yet, if you don't want it, which I might guess from your smiley face, then my usual partition scheme is 10-20 for /, at least equal to the amount of physical ram for the swap partition, then the rest for /home.  Keeping /home on a separate partition allows you to reinstall without losing data, although I read hardy is going to do this anyways
[14:20] <vwhydrowv> wols yes it is
[14:20] <wols> vwhydrowv: if it's a internal partition you should mount it via fstab even (imho).
[14:20] <b4ckd00red> kbrooks: ASKED?
[14:21] <xerxes1358> bobbob1016: thanks. Is reiserfs now at version 4? How does it compare to xfs ? How fast /reliable is it? Is there support for ntfs / windows
[14:22] <vwhydrowv> wols, u got the command?
[14:22] <alsadk> اهلا
[14:22] <wols> vwhydrowv: command for what?
[14:22] <crocd> WorkingOnWise: Yesit is, I had the same setup on feisty and it didnt have this problem
[14:22] <bidossessi> how do i check for/start/stop  running services in ubuntu? /etc/init.d?
[14:22] <wols> xerxes1358: you do not want to use reiserfs 4
[14:23] <wols> bidossessi: yes
[14:23] <vwhydrowv> im a newb man, is there a command for statically assigning it
[14:23] <wols> vwhydrowv: no
[14:23] <vwhydrowv> backdoor did u see my msg
[14:23] <mianhuatang> hello!
[14:23] <vwhydrowv> ?
[14:23] <xerxes1358> wols: for what reasons/
[14:23] <crocd> as      you can  see it adds or doesnt add spaces randomlyand then will repeat until I interupt they repeat
[14:23] <wols> xerxes1358: it's not stable enough to use
[14:23] <bobbob1016> xerxes1358, I'm not that knowledgeable with filesystems, as in which is better, I use ext2 and ext3 since I know linux knows them inside and out.  I have data on fat32 and ntfs, since I dualboot occasionally.
[14:23] <spee> does the ATI driver from the ATI site work properly? is true transparency working with ATI cards and these drivers?
[14:23] <IanLiu> what is the command to launch "Search for Files..."?
[14:23] <b4ckd00red> sup gayboy
[14:23] <spee> does the ATI driver from the ati website for the mobility x1400 work with compiz and compositing windows?
[14:24] <vwhydrowv> backdoor, i responded to u
[14:24] <vwhydrowv> not sure why u didnt see it
[14:24] <vwhydrowv> ok anyways
[14:24] <xerxes1358> back in the days reiserfs 3 was much faster than ext3. How is the performance these days ? Is the reiserfs that comes in installation version 3 ?
[14:24] <Trollinator> does the ubuntu 7.10 live CD include ndiswrapper?
[14:25] <Trollinator> xerxes1358: yes, that's reiserfs3
[14:25] <WorkingOnWise> crocd: i would plug the keyboard directly into the compouter, or the kvm into another computer, just to be positive it isnt the kvm.
[14:25] <vwhydrowv> back on topic, so how do i go about making it a static drive wols, what do i have to do?
[14:25] <mianhuatang> have any chinese here`
[14:25] <th0r> !ch
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:26] <crocd> WorkingOnWise: I know it isnt the kvm as I have thison a xp desktop and this doesnt happen on that.
[14:26] <bullgard4> IanLiu: Do you refer to Gnome_Search_Tool? Gnome Search Tool does not need a special root permission.
[14:26] <mianhuatang> 有中国人不？
[14:26] <bidossessi> mianhuatang, unfortunately no
[14:26] <IanLiu> bullgard4: I know, but I want to Remove the found files
[14:27] <bullgard4> IanLiu: gnome-search-tool is no tool to remove found files. You will need the command (sudo) rm
[14:27] <Jowi> !zh | mianhuatang
[14:27] <ubotu> mianhuatang: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:27] <th0r> Jowi I knew it was there someplace
[14:27] <IanLiu> bullgard4: but, how do I recursively search for files in a tree of folders?
[14:28] <bullgard4> IanLiu: sudo rm -r <directoryname>
[14:28] <bullgard4> IanLiu: But be careful!
[14:29] <mianhuatang> THINK
[14:29] <th0r> IanLiu no....rm will REMOVE the files...to search use 'find <start folder> -n <filename>
[14:29] <IanLiu> bullgard4: but that will search in all folders?
[14:29] <jimbo> !ubotu regular expression
[14:29] <bullgard4> IanLiu: no.
[14:29] <th0r> IanLiu or better yet...install the find-utils so you can use locate
[14:29] <jimbo> !ubotu regex
[14:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <IanLiu> th0r: Ok, I will try find utils ;)
[14:30] <jimbo> !ubotu find regex
[14:30] <ubotu> Found: kregexpeditor, libregexp-java, libxml-regexp-perl, cl-regex, ghc6 (and 13 others)
[14:30] <Trollinator> does the ubuntu 7.10 live CD include ndiswrapper?
[14:30] <jimbo> !ubotu find regular\ expression
[14:30] <ubotu> Package/file regular\ does not exist in gutsy
[14:31] <jimbo> !ubotu find "regular expression"
[14:31] <ubotu> Package/file "regular does not exist in gutsy
[14:31] <werpo> excuse me can somebody help me out?
[14:31] <bullgard4> Trollinator: No.
[14:31] <amorphous__> hey guys - i'm stuck with resolution problems after a gutsy upgrade. Have managed to get 1280x1024 on one user account, but need the name of the screen res setting app to change the others. can anyone tell me the command to open the graphics/screen resolution app?
[14:31] <Trollinator> bullgard4: thx.
[14:31] <th0r> werpo be specific
[14:31] <Trollinator> werpo: don't ask to ask, ask.
[14:32] <werpo> well, ive just installed enlightenment and i cant manage to channnnge my desktop backgroud
[14:32] <th0r> amorphous__  what you really should do is add the proper modeline in xorg.conf so the resolution is available to all users at bootup
[14:32] <IanLiu> Ok, I did it, but with gnome-search-tool :)
[14:33] <th0r> werpo If I remember correctly you need esetroot...but that was for e16
[14:33] <Nexus6> list
[14:33] <Nexus6> \list
[14:33] <IanLiu> thank you guys
[14:33] <khamael> is there a moon phase applet for gnome?
[14:33] <amorphous__> th0r, i've used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the resolution takes, bu
[14:33] <amorphous__> th0r, (sorry) but only on the account that I've set it in the screen res app.
[14:34] <amorphous__> th0r, think I changed a few whilst googling yesterday... am really regretting the gutsy upgrade :(
[14:34] <werpo> thor; i'm using e 17
[14:35] <th0r> amorphous__ I would hit google and check how to set the default resolution....it should be possible to set it up without having to change each user individually
[14:35] <th0r> werpo do you have esetroot in e17?
[14:35] <jimbo> IanLiu: sorry this is late, you want to use find have a look here  for some examples http://www.linux.ie/newusers/beginners-linux-guide/find.php
[14:35] <werpo> thor: nope i dont have it
[14:35] <tinin> Could I limit the wireless traffic in my router with any application?
[14:36] <th0r> werpo ok...didn't know how much was changed in 17.
[14:36] <amorphous__> th0r, google seems to be full of people with gutsy resolution problems, but none of their fixes are helping me :( - still - i'll give it a go ;)
[14:36] <werpo> ok, i have e16 as well, will try using esetroot
[14:36] <amorphous__> th0r, cheers
[14:36] <kaenel> is there a package for the "eclipse c/c++" editor?
[14:36] <werpo> thanks
[14:37] <bidossessi> is there a howto available for turning my desktop into a hotspot? (madwifi)
[14:38] <spee> does the ATI driver from the ati website for the mobility x1400 work correctly with compiz?
 you can search the package manager for it with the command apt-cache search eclipse
[14:39] <amorphous__> th0r, what i realy could do with is the name of the app to adjust the screen res...?
[14:40] <th0r> amorphous__ I use xfce ...not sure what it would be in gnome or kde
[14:40] <amorphous__> Anyone know the screen and graphics setting tool name/command?
[14:40] <amorphous__> for gnome
[14:40] <amorphous__> ok - thanks th0r
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is one way
[14:41] <vwhydrowv> i really need some help here
[14:41] <vwhydrowv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[14:41] <vwhydrowv> im trying to setup a ntfs read/write drive
[14:42] <vwhydrowv> but since its a usb drive its not statically mounting it
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > vwhydrowv
[14:42] <bidossessi> vwhydrowv, why don't u use a linux fs like ext2/3
[14:42] <evil_kevin> apt-get install ntfs-3g?
[14:42] <evil_kevin> not very hard
[14:42] <amorphous__> it's a shame that ubuntu dont use the app name in the titlebar... would educate the people...
[14:43] <Arthur37854> what command do i use to delete all files, in a folder, in a terminal window
[14:43] <vwhydrowv> sorry about that, bidossessi, its already formatted with ntfs with too much data on it
 rm *
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Arthur37854: man rm
[14:43] <Arthur37854> ok thanks
[14:43] <SchnorrerAlena_1> hia lle miteinand
[14:43] <th0r> amorphous__ you can usually discover it by opening a terminal, doing a 'ps ax', opening the app, then doing another 'ps ax' to see what is new
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> vwhydrowv: Are you running gutsy?
[14:44] <vwhydrowv> yes
[14:44] <vwhydrowv> and ntfs config
[14:44] <vwhydrowv> but its still not allowing read/write access for the drive
[14:44] <fsufitch> hey guys, i have a problem. any gtk2 or gtk application i run crashes with a segmantation fault. wtf is going wrong?!
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> vwhydrowv: You should just be able to enable ntfs write and read is already enabled unless there is an issue with the ntfs-usb
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > vwhydrowv
[14:45] <_mug> hey
 change the UUI in /etc/fstab to reference the device through /dev/
[14:45] <vwhydrowv> how can i tell?
[14:45] <_mug> can someone recommend a good bittorrent-gui for gnome?
[14:46] <vwhydrowv> jimbo, there is no files in etc/stab
[14:46] <B-rabbit> hi
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> _mug: you mean something like frostwire?
[14:46] <fsufitch> _mug: i would have said ktorrent, but that's kde ;)
[14:46] <vwhydrowv> etc/fstab i mean
[14:46] <Jowi> _mug, transmission
[14:46] <fsufitch> it still runs on gnome though
[14:46] <xerxes1358> Is this normal : The Close, minimize and maximize buttons on screens are VERY large and out of proportions
[14:46] <evil_kevin> transmission - free, lightweight BitTorrent client
[14:46] <xobius> _mug, Azureus run in java
[14:47] <wols> vwhydrowv: have you tried adding your ntfs drive to your /etc/fstab?
[14:47] <B-rabbit> Jack_Sparrow, i just downloaded frostwire just now :)
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:47] <xerxes1358> he my installation seems to hang at CONFIGURING APT (scanning mirrors) What to do now??
[14:47] <B-rabbit> Jack_Sparrow, do they have an irc channel
[14:47] <stianol> k
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: Have you modified your sources?
[14:47] <vwhydrowv> wols, as i just said to jimbo i just looked for files in /etc/fstab and it said no such file or directory
[14:47] <fsufitch> so anybody hear my question? i can't run any gtk2 apps (tried gftp, pidgin, xchat, switch2). after a second of loading and possibly launching a window, they crash with a segmentation fault. any ideas?
[14:48] <stianol> could someone please help me with configuring a wireless connection in ubuntu 7.10?
[14:48] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: I have no idea what you are talking about so I guess no.
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> B-rabbit: I would think so..  But I doubt it is very active
[14:48] <B-rabbit> ok
 it is the file (have to have the / at the front as well), you said it was mounting but wanted it to mount "statically"
[14:48] <th0r> fsufitch check the dependencies...give me a sec
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: Have you ever run a program called Automatix or Envy...  both bad ideas..
[14:48] <chymera> one quick question, what does ubuntu use to write on ntfs file systems?
[14:48] <wols> vwhydrowv: /etc/fstab is a file. a single file. and if you don't have that file you are not running any linux (or unix) I'd say. are you on windows?
[14:48] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: no not that I know
[14:49] <chymera> that 3g stuff, or the kernel option?
[14:49] <evil_kevin> Automatix has some serious bugs..
[14:49] <vwhydrowv> oh ok
[14:49] <fsufitch> th0r: how would i do that?
[14:49] <stianol> anyone experience with wireless on ubuntu?
[14:49] <xerxes1358> I have nt run any automatix or envy. So what to do next ?
[14:49] <wols> chymera: ntfs-3g
[14:49] <vwhydrowv> i thought it was a directory, my bad
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> evil_kevin: Automatix is more evil than you.. :)
[14:49] <evil_kevin> :)
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list    to see your sources
[14:49] <xerxes1358> stianol: I do. I just install ubuntu. Workded perfectly
[14:49] <evil_kevin> lol
[14:49] <chymera> wols so all ubuntu kernels have write support for ntfs turned off in them?
[14:49] <jimbo> vwhydrowv you can edit by gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[14:50] <Exploit> hi there
[14:50] <fsufitch> th0r: apt-get check doesn't return anything special
[14:50] <vwhydrowv> jimbo, im not seeing a uuid for it there
[14:50] <wols> chymera: no linux kernel has (working) ntfs write support. ntfs-3g uses FUSE, userspace filesystems
[14:50] <bobb13> hi
[14:50] <Exploit> can someone tell me how to create a tar archive and zip it after that? (*.tar.gz)
[14:50] <jimbo> vwhydrowv so is it monting or not?
[14:50] <bobb13> anyone can help with firefox - ubuntu problem?
[14:50] <wols> Exploit: tar -czvf
[14:50] <th0r> fsufitch give me a sec
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> vwhydrowv: HAve you enabled automount of removeable media?
[14:50] <stianol> xerxes: I seems like the wlan card is found, but when i try to get the network up I don't get a ip address from the DHCP server.. and using static addresses does not work either
[14:50] <chymera> wols, aham ok, I was just compiling a kernel over here and wondered if I'm gonna need the write-support option
[14:51] <wols> Exploit: -c creates a tar, -z gzips it
[14:51] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: Ok I am in. Now what ?
[14:51] <stianol> xerxes: and I have installed the server version (no GUI)
[14:51] <vwhydrowv> i see the drive in file browser so im assuming its mounting it has unmount option on the drive
[14:51] <xobius> bobb13, What's your problem?
[14:51] <Exploit> wols: I am getting errors
[14:51] <vwhydrowv> you have to excuse me guys, im brand new to linux, just started last night
[14:51] <Jord> hello
[14:51] <Exploit> I want to create a archive called MinutesToMidnight
[14:51] <Kanedacorp> hi, quick newbie question. I have ubuntu installed. If I installed Kubuntu would it replace my gnome environment or appear in the grub menu like a dual boot system?
[14:52] <vwhydrowv> i actually have been up all night trying to get this all working
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: shift ctrl-c to copy it and use the pastebin (see channel topic) paste it in there and give us the link
[14:52] <wols> Kanedacorp: neither.
[14:52] <jimbo> vwhydrowv use ctrl+f to search for the path you see in the browser
[14:52] <wols> Kanedacorp: you could run gnome or kde by choosing when logging in
[14:52] <th0r> fsufitch not sure how to check it in ubuntu. I have ub on my server, and don't see the dependencies in synaptic. In yast (suse on my laptop) the dependencies are listed for reference. I will pastebin the suse list for you
[14:52] <wols> Kanedacorp: both gnome and kde would be installed
[14:52] <Jord> i need help with LINUX, i installed it but when ever i start up my computer windows only starts up
[14:52] <nomasteryoda> Kanedacorp, it would be an option in the gdm that is there before login to the gui
[14:52] <vwhydrowv> the drive is in media/Drobo if thats what your asking
[14:52] <Kanedacorp> so I'd get an option at the login screen?
[14:52] <belsebubb> is ntop broken in gutsy ?
[14:53] <wols> th0r: dependencies for what?
[14:53] <Kanedacorp> ah cool, thanks :)
[14:53] <vwhydrowv> but in fstab im not seeing any uuid listed there for the drive
[14:53] <stianol> someone knows what the wmaster0 interface is?
[14:53] <Jord> i need help with LINUX, i installed it but when ever i start up my computer windows only starts up
[14:53] <wols> vwhydrowv: of course not. you are supposed to put it there
[14:53] <wols> Jord: what linux did you install? and how?
[14:53] <th0r> wols he can't run any gtk apps....I suspect libglibc or some such is not right
[14:53] <Jord> i386 using ISO
[14:53] <wols> th0r: apt-cache will do it
[14:53] <vwhydrowv> ok, thats where i was getting confused at
[14:54] <wols> vwhydrowv: fstab is a textfile you need to edit
[14:54] <th0r> fsufitch there you go...check into apt-cache
[14:54] <Kanedacorp> I have compiz fusion and dual screen enabled on gnome, would that need to be enabled seperately if I had KDE as well?
[14:54] <th0r> thanks wols
[14:54] <bidossessi> Jord, what distro did you install? ubuntu/opensuse/mandrake/...
[14:54] <ushimitsudoki> On 7.10 amd_64, should I have 10 instances of "gnome-vfs-daemon" sleeping in the system monitor?
[14:54] <Jord> ubuntu
[14:54] <fsufitch> th0r: where's the pastebins?
[14:54] <fsufitch> mustve missed it
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> vwhydrowv: Did you check  System / Preferences / Removable Drives and Media.?
[14:55] <Jord> i installed it, started up linux, now it wont start up again, only windows does
[14:55] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.pastebin.org/14117
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[14:55] <jdh6403> how does one disable adblock in epipahny?
[14:55] <bidossessi> Jord, did you install it or were you running it from the live cd
[14:55] <Kanedacorp> jord: did you install ubuntu to a different partition? I had that problem
[14:55] <th0r> fsufitch was talking to wols .....did you see his response? apt-cache will get you the dependencies in ubuntu
[14:55] <Jord> no, it said install so i did
[14:56] <Jord> anyone find me a guild?
[14:56] <vwhydrowv> jack_sparrow no but i will now
[14:56] <Jord> guide?
[14:56] <fsufitch> ooh ok
[14:56] <evil_kevin> u mean wow guild lol
[14:56] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: did you get it ?
[14:56] <Kanedacorp> I recommend blade of Emorus on Darkmoon faire ;)
[14:56] <ohcibi> obviously i was not hitting ctr+alt+backspace..... X just crashed, but theres no error in the log... it crashed after i was hitting f12 to let yakuake disappear, what could be wrong?
[14:56] <vwhydrowv> ok jack, what am i looking for in removable drives and media?
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: Open synaptic and enable all of the sources in there.. you have (almost) nothing enabled)
[14:57] <aram> hi
[14:57] <th0r> fsufitch so as a start....check 'apt-cache showpkg pidgin' and you will see all the libs that program depends on. I suspect your problem involves a missing or corrupt lib file...something like libglibc or some such
[14:57] <Kanedacorp> jord, when I did it, the grub boot manager installed itself on the drive i specified for ubuntu but that wasn't the drive the computer looks to when it boots so it didn't see it
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: It should then ask you to update the sources list .. which is needed...
[14:57] <fsufitch> th0r: brb
[14:57] <aram> can anyone help how can i change the text file i know cat command show the file what is the command in terminal that i can use to edit file
[14:57] <wols> fsufitch: have you tried "debsums"?
[14:57] <Jord> nah its not that i was running a LIVE session
[14:58] <ushimitsudoki> aram: nano
[14:58] <wols> aram: nano
[14:58] <th0r>  fsufitch run the apt-cache command for a few of the programs that crash and then check the common libs to make sure they are there
[14:58] <aram> wols: what is nano ?
[14:58] <vwhydrowv> mount removable media drives when hot-plugged, mount removable media when inserted. and browse removable media when inserted is all checked
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !editor
[14:58] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[14:58] <wols> aram: man nano
[14:58] <aram> wols thanks
[14:59] <aram> wols: i want to change my router file i am telneting to router i can see the file with cat command and can i change it with nano?
[14:59] <fsufitch> wols: debsums?
[15:00] <aram> wols: my router does not accept nano
[15:00] <wols> aram: no. you are asking about your router, not ubuntu. when you telnet to another host you aren't running on your local computer anymore. you run on another one. this question (how to edit files on a non ubuntu machine) is off topic
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> vwhydrowv: I would assume something is up with that usb - ntfs partition...  you can go to a terminal and type sudo fdisk -l and see what shows up there
[15:01] <aram> wols: ok sorry
[15:01] <fsufitch> wols: what do you mean by debsums? (i dont even know what they are)
[15:02] <wols> fsufitch: it's a program
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: When you are done.. Look at your sources list and it should be very different
[15:03] <amorphous__> I'm still having issues with screen resolutions being 800x600 for three users, and 1280x1024 in the admin account.... why is this? it's a gutsy upgrade, ati Radeon xpress200 - this is after lots of fixing so far, but I need to set the res in the other accounts.
[15:03] <fsufitch> wols: ok running debsums
[15:03] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: some sources were added. Sweet I added some local ftp servers from my previous university. Sweet speeds: 10000kbit/sec :D
[15:03] <gurth4ng> hello ppl. i'd like to know, does nautilus support icon tooltips?
[15:03] <fsufitch> wols: all is ok for pidgin
[15:03] <PleegWat> Hi. I've got an old system with an atlon 2800 or so and a geforce 4 card, and X won't init from the ubuntu 7.10 live CD
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: careful with those non-official repos.. but glad it is working
[15:04] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah install is continuing now again. Thanks bro
[15:04] <bobb13> firefox 2.0.0.11 ubuntu 7.10 working fine except when loading long page (cannot load fully). any idea?
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:04] <wols> PleegWat: what errors do you get?
[15:04] <gurth4ng> does nautilus have icon tooltips?
[15:04] <PleegWat> wols: Waiting for 2 minutes after 6 failed attempts to init display :0 in 90 seconds
[15:04] <xerxes1358> ah damn the speed has decreased to 5mbit / sec ;-(
[15:05] <wols> PleegWat: that's not the relevant error
[15:05] <dundel> does anybody know how to save in vim?
[15:05] <wols> dundel: ESC:wENTER
[15:05] <PleegWat> wols: Booting it again to get at the exact message, but it's something along those lines and it's all I'm getting
[15:05] <Arthur37854> is there a way to keep the directory structure but delete all files inside of the folder and sub folders?,
[15:05] <xerxes1358> shift ZZ for VIM Save
[15:05] <bobb13> firefox 2.0.0.11 ubuntu 7.10 working fine except when loading long page (cannot load fully). any idea?
[15:05] <wols> PleegWat: you are wrong. your logfile has more for example
[15:05] <PleegWat> wols: Is there a key combo that'll kick it onto the command line so I can get at the log?
[15:06] <wols> PleegWat: ctrl+alt+f2
[15:06] <blip> does anyone know if you can set nautilus up so that different folders save yoru differen't viewing preferances? (like window height/width, arrange order, icons/details)
[15:06] <PleegWat> wols: Thanks, I'll try that and see what the log shows
[15:06] <dundel> thanks wols
[15:06] <dundel> and how do you quit
[15:06] <fsufitch> wols: so what do i do if debsums sez all of pidgin's libraries aer ok?
[15:06] <wols> dundel: :q
[15:06] <gurth4ng> does Gnome support icon tooltips?
[15:06] <vwhydrowv> ok, its coming back /dev/sdb1
[15:06] <dundel> thx :D
[15:07] <blip> gurth: i don't have tooltips when i mouse over a folder in nautilus
[15:07] <PleegWat> wols: Well what do you know. This time it does seem to get into X correctly.
[15:07] <wols> fsufitch: pray. you can use strace but I doubt it will help any since you won't understand its output
[15:07] <bidossessi> is ther a gui network admin tool? whatever changes i make don't reflect in ip a
[15:07] <Arthur37854> is there a way to keep the directory structure but delete all files inside of the folder and sub folders?,
[15:07] <wols> PleegWat: good luck
[15:07] <bobb13> firefox 2.0.0.11 ubuntu 7.10 working fine except when loading long page (cannot load fully). any idea?
[15:07] <fsufitch> wols: is there somebody who can? ;)
[15:07] <vwhydrowv> still the permission could not be changed
[15:07] <sandrot> anyone here sporting a newish laptop that they're happy with?
[15:07] <wols> fsufitch: lots of people but I doubt you find one willing
[15:07] <gurth4ng> blip: yea me neither, i was wondering how i can get tooltips..
[15:08] <kaiousama_> gurth4ng: yes it does, do you need to write a gnome application displaying tooltips?
[15:09] <gurth4ng> kaiousama_: nope, i just realised it doesnt have tooltips for me and i was wondering if i somehow turned them off or if it never had and i just hadnt noticed ;)
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: Are you trying to install a newer Pidgin.?
[15:09] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: no
[15:09] <fsufitch> my Pidgin stopped working last night along with all the other gtk2+ applications
[15:09] <kaiousama_> I have tooltips if I point the mouse over the icons on nautilus' toolbar, is it that you're referring to?
[15:10] <panfist> hey whats an easy way to install FLAC support for various media players
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: I guess the question is then.. what all did you install or change last night.. or any updates?
[15:11] <gurth4ng> kaiousama_: nope, i mean when pointing at some file's icon in a folder
[15:11] <blip> kaiousama: no i think he means the folders
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !flac
[15:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:11] <gurth4ng> or on a folder
[15:11] <fsufitch> i upgraded my kde4 beta
[15:11] <fsufitch> but that shouldn't affect anything
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: I think you are wrong
[15:12] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: >_<. So then?
[15:12] <fsufitch> the problem may be that my internet connection sucked and that my upgrade had to stop midway
[15:12] <bidossessi> talking about free formats; i'm sure there's abatch converter available; something like papcl for ubuntu
[15:12] <lauriexxx> hi can anybody direct m to a good site for installing ubuntu on a samsung notebook?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: I would try to reinstall or remove and reinstall gtk2
[15:12] <xerxes1358> exit
[15:12] <bobbob1016> Jowi, I ran screen in my ssh session, and I figured out the basics, I can't seem to return to the window though.  I'm running Azureus on the remote machine, and if I start it in ssh, after running screen, it launches.  If I detach, then reattach, I see the terminal output from Azureus, but Azureus closed.  I tried it with xmms, and after reattaching, I get an error.  Any ideas?
[15:12] <kaiousama_> gurth4ng: no, there are no tooltips over files&folders in nautilus, if you need informations on a specific file you have to select it, otherwise...
[15:12] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: i'll try it
[15:12] <bobb13> firefox 2.0.0.11 ubuntu 7.10 working fine except when loading long page (cannot load fully). any idea?
[15:13] <Drakx_> your net connection maybe?
[15:13] <blip> bobble3, probably just an issue with firefox, not ubuntu.  have an example of a page giving you issues?
[15:13] <bobb13> other browser installed also have same problem
[15:13] <gurth4ng> kaiousama_: ah okay, that's what i was looking for. is there a way to add tooltips? maybe through some Compiz extention or..?
[15:13] <bobb13> no internet problem, winxp working fine
[15:13] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: that would be libgtk2.0-0?
[15:14] <Jowi> bobbob1016, AFAIK screen is for terminal commands. I haven't tried with X apps at all so I don't know.
[15:14] <bobb13> blip: any page with long list, such as country list
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: I would use synaptic and see what is installed and work form there...
[15:14] <kaiousama_> gurth4ng: otherwise you can display some file&folder informations below each icon (when nautilus is in icon view mode) by setting menu->edit->preferences->display. But it is probably not what are you looking for.
[15:14] <fsufitch> synaptic is a gtk app
[15:14]  * kaiousama_ looking in compiz
[15:15] <amorphous__> how can I change my desktop resolution?
[15:15] <blip> bobble3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries ?
[15:15] <bobbob1016> Jowi, Oh, ok, thanks.  Screen is useful on it's own too, instead of opening multiple ssh sessions, I can just open multiple windows.  Thanks again.
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: This isnt really a ubuntu problem...   We use gnome and you are running a "beta" of KDE4
[15:15] <bobb13> blip: yes. that's good example
[15:16] <Jowi> bobbob1016, no probs
[15:16] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: i'm not even actually running it... I just tried it a few weeks ago and left it installed so that i won't have problems later upgrading from 3.5 to 4.0
[15:16] <wietz0r> dpkg: error processing openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev (--configure):
[15:16] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: so should i go yell at the kde dev team?
[15:16] <wietz0r> Guys, I'm slightly panicking here
[15:16] <blip> bobbl3: google for some guides on how to make sure ipv6 isn't running.  i used to have net problems when i had ipv4 and ipv6 turned on.
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: NOt really their problem if your upgrade borked in the middle of the download is it?
[15:17] <bobb13> blip: tried to turn off IPV6 but doesn't help
[15:17] <wietz0r> I've just installed ubuntu, and now I ran update and it doesn't work
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: I suppose you didnt bother to have any backup of any kind available?
[15:18] <kaiousama_> gurth4ng: i don0t see any useful option in compiz-settings.... maybe there is some gconf option for nautilus not exposed to the end user
[15:18] <Ubuntu2> any ideas how to get java to work in opera
[15:18] <mular> morning guys - when I first boot up my PC I see a message go by really fast saying that starting firestarter ..... [failed]
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork
[15:18] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[15:19] <mular> I googled a bit and it seems I have to change the order firestarter boots so its *after* network manager.. any ideas?
[15:19] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean "backup"?
[15:19] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: what kind of error is telling you the update tool.
[15:19] <kaiousama_> ?
[15:19] <wietz0r> ?
[15:19] <wietz0r> kaiousama_:  Package openoffice.org-java-common is not configured yet.
[15:19] <wietz0r> dpkg: error processing openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev (--configure):
[15:19] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: I can't exactly back up every single package on my system before running an upgrade just to make sure nothing breaks...
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> mular: firestarter is not a firewall it is an iptable manager.. it does not need to run at boot every time...
[15:20] <Zasch> Hello. Is there any way to add a location to the "Places" menu?
[15:20] <mular> yes but shouldn't it not fail @ boot up? I didn't change anything thats what it is doing defaultly
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: Have you EVER backed up your system.
[15:20] <wietz0r> kaiousama_: do you have any idea ?
[15:20] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: no
[15:20] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: open synaptic from system->administration->synaptic package manager
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: Running beta software with no backups is not a good plan
[15:21] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: the only time i've done backups is when i needed to reinstall all of ubuntu
[15:21] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: and look if there are some broken packages
[15:21] <wietz0r> Can't I do that with apt ?
[15:21] <wietz0r> I'll try, hold on
[15:21] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: and reinstalling the gtk2 libs didn't help
[15:21] <fsufitch> hmm
[15:21] <bigdaddysky> just installed Ubunu 7.10 on a Compaq laptop and i get the following error "mp-bios bug: 8245 timer no connected to io-apic" and also this "PCi:unable to allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000:00:04.0
[15:22] <kaiousama_> yes, sure, i think the command is "sudo apt-get check"
[15:22] <bigdaddysky> can someone help me out
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> fsufitch: Like I said earlier.. this is not a ubntu support problem...  try KDE or even offtopic...
[15:22] <wietz0r> kaiousama_: how do I check this in synaptic
[15:22] <wietz0r> it says none broken
[15:22] <fsufitch> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> bigdaddysky: you can add noapic to the boot/grub/menu.lst   but try it on boot first
[15:23] <mahogny> ok, my new computer has 2gb ram. should I even bother with a swap partition?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mahogny: Yes
[15:23] <mahogny> recommended size?
[15:23] <ohcibi> sn0: how can i adjust the fan speed with lm-sensors? seems to me like i only can take control about the limits
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mahogny: 2gig
[15:23] <blip> Jack_Sparrow: ubuntu supports kubuntu, at least their forums say they do
[15:23] <bigdaddysky> jack_sparrow: i tried that and it wouldn't boot just sat a black screen
[15:24] <lauriexxx> hi can anybody direct m to a good site for installing ubuntu on a samsung notebook?
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> blip: But NOT KDE4 Beta
[15:24] <kaiousama_> wietz0r, ok so you do not have any broken package on your system, could you please retry updating via console using "sudo apt-get update"?
[15:24] <aram> how can i see the details of one file in terminal i mean like to know if it is txt or exe or... and also show information about size of the fiel?
[15:24] <aram> file
[15:24] <wietz0r> kaiousama_: done
[15:24] <wols> aram: man file
[15:25] <sn0> ohcibi ubuntuguide.org has an example, using lm-sensors
[15:25] <Generic> I'm setting up tomboy to synch via ssh
[15:25] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: it should fetch the available software sources, do you get any error in this phase?
[15:25] <Generic> I don't use the default ssh port at home, so to setup tomboy to use that port, would I just say 127.0.0.1:555?
[15:25] <wols> lauriexxx: http://tuxmobil.org/
[15:25] <Turkish> hello
[15:25] <ohcibi> sn0: thx
[15:25] <Turkish> :D
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> blip: And while we do support kubuntu... we have the #Kubuntu room for the more KDE specific questions
[15:26] <sn0> np
[15:26] <wietz0r> kaiousama_: aptitude remove ttf-opensymbol; aptitupe update; aptitude upgrade
[15:26] <wietz0r> has apparantly fixed it
[15:26] <wietz0r> I'll try uppgrading now
[15:26] <aram> wols i mean if i dont know if the file is txt or exe because if i use man i should type like man aram.txt
[15:26] <mahogny> Jack_Sparrow, maybe you also know if I should make the swap a striped raid0 or if I manually should make 4 swap drives? unsure what performs best. I would guess the raid way
[15:26] <bAndie91> pls help to install
[15:27] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: ok
[15:27] <bAndie91> hi
[15:27] <wietz0r> kaiousama_: what exactly is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade
[15:27] <dgjones> !install | bA
[15:27] <ubotu> bA: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:27] <wild_oscar> what is the best place to discuss suspend/hibernate/ide problems in ubuntu?
[15:27] <aram> wols: any help please
[15:27] <wietz0r> I assume it doesn't actually upgrade my distro if I don't change the resources in my sources.list
[15:27] <wild_oscar> namely, this issue:
[15:27] <wild_oscar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658932
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> mahogny: I avoid raid unless I am using a true hardware raid controller and not a softraid that most of the motherboards come with these days..
[15:28] <mahogny> Jack_Sparrow, hard raid here
[15:28] <leechzilla> Hello.. My samba was setup correctly, and everything was working properly from the past 2 weeks, but now none of the systems on the network are accessible from Ubuntu. Can someone help me fix this?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> mahogny: Since you will most likely never use the swap.. do what is easiest
[15:28] <mahogny> Jack_Sparrow, I figure placing a swap on raid5 (which the rest of the disk is) would be kind of stupid
[15:28] <Turkish> hekký
[15:28] <Turkish> hello
[15:28] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: "dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
[15:28] <kaiousama_>            also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions
[15:28] <kaiousama_>            of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and
[15:28] <kaiousama_>            it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the
[15:28] <kaiousama_>            expense of less important ones if necessary. The
[15:28] <kaiousama_>            /etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which
[15:29] <kaiousama_>            to retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for
[15:29] <kaiousama_>            a mechanism for overriding the general settings for individual
[15:29] <kaiousama_>            packages.
[15:29] <kaiousama_> "
[15:29] <dgjones> !paste > kaiousama_
[15:29] <bidossessi> wow no pastebin around here?
[15:29] <ohcibi> sn0: cant find it there..
[15:29] <kaiousama_> dgjones: sorry.
[15:29] <wietz0r> Could've just told me to look in the man page
[15:29] <wietz0r> like #debian would've done
[15:29] <wietz0r> lals
[15:29] <bidossessi> i'm looking for a howto to turn my wireless atheros desktop into an ap. any links?
[15:30] <blip> weitz0r: argument could've been said for YOU to look in the man page before coming here.
[15:30] <blip> lals
[15:30] <Cher> follow this you bitches
[15:30] <Cher> :D
[15:30] <wietz0r> blip: argument could be said for tab complete
[15:30] <blip> i konw i know, i typed out your name and failed
[15:30] <kaiousama_> wietz0r: I think dist-upgrade is the way to go.
[15:30] <bidossessi> i've got ath0 in master mode. how to proceed is what i need
[15:31] <wietz0r> alright, thanks
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <MaxRandor> my network interfaces are slightly broken and a usb wireless connection is show as a wired connection and does not work what command regenerates all the network interfaces like /etc/network/interfaces and the persistent rules?
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <Cher> d
[15:31] <aram> what is the delete command in terminal
[15:31] <aram> del doesnt work
[15:31] <MaxRandor> to delete a file us rm
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops > Cher
[15:32] <dgjones> Cher, please stop doing that
[15:32] <Cher> ok:)
[15:32] <Cher> thank you
[15:32] <Cher> hehe
[15:32] <Cher> :D
[15:33] <bAndie91> fuck it dont works
[15:33] <shivy> Hey people, I have a situation which I want to create which I have a question about ...
[15:33] <elkbuntu> !ohmy | bAndie91
[15:33] <ubotu> bAndie91: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:33] <elkbuntu> shivy, just ask, dont ask to ask :)
[15:33] <Cher> :S
[15:34] <Cher> :D
[15:34] <bAndie91> HOW CAN I INSTALL ANY KIND OF LINUX INTO A LAPTOP WITH NO CDROM ????
[15:34] <Cher> bAndie91
[15:34] <Cher> go home
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Cher: Please stop
[15:34] <Cher> :D
[15:34] <bidossessi> use a usb?
[15:34] <Cher> :(
[15:34] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, netinstall
[15:34] <bAndie91> no usb no net no other possibilities only fdd
[15:34] <bAndie91> !
[15:34] <joakim-> anybody know if the notification area ballon colour can be changed?
[15:35] <shivy> k sorry new to this, ok here goes. I want to create a fileserver. I have this partition ext3 which I want to use to put files. But I dont know if im on the right path. How would you approach this
[15:35] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, no PCMCIA card?
[15:35] <bAndie91> no
[15:35] <belsebubb> !ntop
[15:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:35] <bAndie91> (i have bought but dont arrived yet)
[15:35] <bidossessi> shivy, do you want to share those files with other linux bxes?
[15:35] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, do you have another computer around that you could put the harddrive into (2.5"->3.5" are cheap on ebay)?
[15:36] <kaiousama_> bAndie91: are you sure your laptop meets the minimum system requirements for ubuntu?
[15:36] <ushimitsudoki> bAndie91: look here if you need a floppy distro: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/
[15:36] <shivy> yupp Linux boxes and windows machines
[15:36] <bidossessi> windows: that means samba
[15:36] <_> hellpo
[15:36] <bAndie91> its a special compaqu designed hdd, i cant join to
[15:36] <MaxRandor> bAndie91:  if you can get the data onto the hardrive you can install using a bootable floppy disk to run the .iso of the hardrive
[15:36] <shivy> Could that be done in combination with ext3 ?
[15:36] <bidossessi> you can configure a samba server and set your partition as a share
[15:36] <shivy> or do I need a different kind of partition
[15:37] <bidossessi> shivy, no, it's ok
[15:37] <crush_groove> what should fdisk -l show me ?
[15:37] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, what model cmputer and harddrive?
[15:37] <bAndie91> MaxRandor: i cant do that for a week :(
[15:37] <shivy> So when this certain partition is shared with samba its available for windows users through ftp ?
[15:37] <bidossessi> i think there must be a gui tool to setup a samba share in ubuntu. i generally use smb.conf
[15:37] <bidossessi> shivy
[15:38] <bAndie91> compaq armada m....
[15:38] <Generic> crush_groove, partition layout on all your disks
[15:38] <bidossessi> shivy, not ftp, just normal shared folder, like you would have on windows
[15:38] <iblicf> hi , if  'ls -l ' can output the octal format ?
[15:38] <bAndie91> armada 7730mt
[15:38] <marshcast> ok - i know i'm harping on a bit, but i'm really struggling with these resolution issues. I thought that the admin account was sorted, but its only the panels that are small - the icons & desktop are still very big. I could really do with some help - the new gutsy displayconfig doesn't detect my card or monitor and keeps sending me to pnp 800x600 - i have to change it manually - but nothing changes. could somebody please give me
[15:38] <marshcast>  a hand?
[15:39] <shivy> The Idea is to get a login through a php script for users....That they have a place after the login to download/reach these files. Either windows or linux users
[15:39] <crush_groove> Generic thats what I thought . fdisk -l only shows me my ibook external .. no other drives
[15:39] <jp30> how can I have my Ubuntu recognize my USB stick?
[15:39] <bidossessi> shivy. you are trying to set up a PDC?
[15:39] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, i'm pretty certain you can remove the harddrive from armadas and connect them using a converter. heck, even walmart may have one of the connectors
[15:40] <noto1> Anyone GOSU with XKB?
[15:40] <bidossessi> PDC=Primary Domain Controller
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jp30: Did you check  System / Preferences / Removable Drives and Media.?
[15:40] <bAndie91> and from where do i get CONVERTER?
[15:40] <marshcast> the information section on the monitor menu says 800x600 even if I set it manually to 1280x1024... it wont change.
[15:40] <shivy> I just want to get the best approach ...
[15:40] <elkbuntu> bAndie91, ebay or electronics department
[15:41] <marshcast> is there any way to go back to my feisty install
[15:41] <marshcast> ?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> marshcast: Is this a laptop?
[15:41] <bidossessi> shivy, you want users to login through a login server, right?
[15:41] <blip> marshcast, to stop my computer from loading into a specific resolution, I deleted the "bad" resolution in my xorg.config file.
[15:41] <bidossessi> linux and windows don't handle login the same way
[15:41] <nickrud> marshcast, the only way back to feisty is a re install
[15:41] <jp30> yes, everything is checked, when I plug my USB in , Ubuntu 7.04 doesn't read it
[15:42] <shivy> Well I want the files to be protected by login.. and me t have the ability to see who downloads it ...
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Morning.. :)
[15:42] <shivy> Like a secure ftp would be fine too too start off with
[15:42] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, to you also
[15:42] <shivy> as long as both window and linux users can reach it
[15:42] <LamerUnixowy> hello
[15:42] <bidossessi> ok, i see. you are talking about a webserver, right?
[15:42] <xerxes1358> Hello
[15:42] <LamerUnixowy> somebody speak in Polish?
[15:42] <shivy> Well yeah kinda
[15:43] <nickrud> !pl | LamerUnixowy
[15:43] <ubotu> LamerUnixowy: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[15:43] <shivy> im sorry if Im unclear ... Im not really good in explaining lol ;-)
[15:43] <marshcast> Jack_Sparrow, no - it's a desktop - ati radeon express, viewsonic va702b monitor... am gutted at gutsy - this has been two days of people giving me a hard time and hours and hours of getting nowhere :(
[15:43] <xerxes1358> I just installed Ubuntu, I have 2 problems I cant install anything. And second my screens look VERY weird Check this out: http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkf7.png
[15:43] <LamerUnixowy> dzieki (thx)
[15:43] <marshcast> blip, will try that, thanks :)
[15:43] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: Are you still there bro
[15:43] <blip> marshcast, good luck!
[15:43] <shivy> Like I have 20 files I want on this server for you to download... only you need a login to get there
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> marshcast: Please post your xorg to the pastebin and give us the link.. Do not paste into the channel
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: I was just about to take a break.. but yes
[15:44] <shivy> Now my upload isnt that great but I still want to offer these files without having to upgrade my inernet connection...
[15:44] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: I have trouble with my screen. Check the link I just posted: http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkf7.png
[15:44] <bidossessi> shivy, you have a php script on a webpage that you need to control access to. i you could use an apache auth request for that specific folder. i think you would do that through an htaccess file
[15:44] <Ubuntu2> what kind is it
[15:44] <bidossessi> that is if i understood you correctly
[15:45] <shivy> kewl,, so that way I could protect the content through a password login right ?
[15:45] <shivy> so I just need apache and some tweaking in httpd.conf ?
[15:45] <blip> xerxes1358, what's the problem?
[15:45] <bidossessi> yes, by setting a .htacces file in the target folder, you could regulate who gets access
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: Pulling it up now...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  .. save that for later...
[15:46] <bidossessi> you should look that up in the apache documentation
[15:46] <shivy> So would it be smart to symbolically link everything to a specific folder ?
[15:46] <shivy> instead of giving access to the real folder ?
[15:46] <bidossessi> well, you can use a directory directive in apache, and not have to link anything
[15:46] <davina> !xlib6g
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlib6g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <nickrud> !info libc6
[15:47] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 (gutsy), package size 4085 kB, installed size 10120 kB
[15:47] <crush_groove> Jack_Sparrow,  will xrandr  or xrandr --display help marsh ?
[15:47] <shivy> kewl.. wow that just gave me a whole big kick in my butt to the right direction Thanx bidossessi !
[15:47] <lassesandberg43> can anyone help me? im having serious problems with compiz, i got ubuntu 7.10, and under appearences > desktopeffects > custom, even if i disable ALL plugins etc, i can still use alt and mousewheel to change opacity of windows, and it never remembers my settings when i restart, and sometimes forget them as well when i switch between "none" and "custom" in desktop effects
[15:47] <bidossessi> welcome
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> crush_groove: Working three problems atm... one sec
[15:47] <crush_groove> yes sir
[15:48] <bazhang> alt f2 metacity --replace lassesandberg43
[15:48] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: its is a INtel centrino mobile card in a laptop I believe its called  945 or s
[15:48] <xerxes1358> o
[15:48] <crush_groove> lassesandberg43,  do you have flatfile enabled in preferences?
[15:48] <bidossessi> what do you know. i just installed ubuntu this morning and i have a pc freeze!
[15:48] <nickrud> xerxes1358, try system->prefs->appearances fonts tab, window title
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> crush_groove:   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       is most likely where I will send him after looking at his xorg.. he also may not have his monitor refresh setup...
[15:49] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: I chose vesa but it keeps asking for memory allocation. Whats common ? 128000 kb ?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: accept all defaults.. dont change anything
[15:50] <xerxes1358> I cant
[15:50] <lassesandberg43> crush_groove: its the same with or without that
[15:50] <xerxes1358> It forces me to put in a number. I put in 128mb
[15:50] <crush_groove> Nodz at Jack_Sparrow  ty
[15:50] <Berto> Hi, I had a power outage and now have HUGE sound problems.  Anything that has to do with alsa freezes.
[15:50] <Berto> What's the best way to make sure alsa doesn't start up at all next time so that i can start debugging?
[15:50] <Warrior> Morning all.
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: dont write anything to the xorg and try nickrud's suggestion
[15:50] <Berto> I took alsa-utils out of startup mode
[15:50] <crush_groove>  lassesandberg43  have you done compiz --replace cpp &
[15:51] <lassesandberg43> no i dont think so.. should i run that command in terminal?
[15:51] <lassesandberg43> and what does it do :P
[15:51] <crush_groove> lassesandberg43,  yes
[15:51] <lassesandberg43> okay
[15:51] <crush_groove>  It resets your compiz settings
[15:51] <lassesandberg43> okay
[15:52] <lassesandberg43> crush_groove: /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'cpp'
[15:52] <lassesandberg43> /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
[15:52] <lassesandberg43>  <--- it stops after writing that in terminal
[15:52] <Strangewor1> When I attempt to install Opera web browser, the .deb says "failed to install.", why is this?
[15:52] <crush_groove>  lassesandberg43  come to #compiz-fusion
[15:52] <lassesandberg43> okay
[15:53] <nickrud> xerxes1358, erm, are you using compiz? I just tried setting font title size thru that and it doesn't work with compiz
[15:53] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[15:53] <crush_groove> lassesandberg43,  that is beyond my knowledge and off topic for this room . ask in compiz . many good people in there
[15:53] <xerxes1358> nickrud: I am not sure to be honest. First linux install. I just finished.
[15:54] <playest> hello
[15:55] <nickrud> xerxes1358, that screenshot window is transparent, so it probably is.  Try this:  hit alt-f2 , then run metacity --replace
[15:55] <bidossessi> so, any link on turning a wireless into an AP in ubuntu?
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: I am curious about the other sources you enabled at your univ....  But I doubt that is where the problem started..
[15:55] <Aquahallic> anyone ever seen Xorg jump to 99% cpu using nvidia legacy drivers?
[15:55] <amorphous__> ok - the screen res thing - even if i take out all other possible resolutions but 1280x1024, it still boots up in 800x600. then i get asked to manually configure at bootup. i choose 1280x1024 & it gives me 800x600 again.  radeon is NEVER detected by gutsy's displayconfig, and I'm at a complete loss :( any other offers? please?
[15:55] <playest> i have a file on my hard drive and i can't delete it
[15:55]  * nickrud *hates* unknown third party repos :)
[15:56] <Strangewor1> When I attempt to install Opera web browser, the .deb says "failed to install.", why is this? In addition, Opera does not appear in Synaptic Package Manager
[15:56] <bidossessi> playest, maybe you don't have the right permissions
[15:56] <playest> il try rm -rf and sudo rm -rf
[15:56] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow: I had that problem during install too (The large fonts). What are your default settings for windows title fonts ?
[15:56] <xerxes1358> nickrud: seems to help
[15:56] <bidossessi> playest, what is the name of that file?
[15:56] <flithm> hey everyone, anyone know where the opengl man pages are?
[15:56] <nickrud> xerxes1358, ok then it is definitely a theme problem
[15:57] <playest> but the error is "the directory is not empty"
[15:57] <playest> http://rafb.net/p/37T6pu23.html
[15:57] <bidossessi> playest, you have to go recursive
[15:57] <playest> errors are in french
[15:57] <bidossessi> try -R
[15:57] <playest> bidossessi, already try
[15:57] <nickrud> xerxes1358, now, in a terminal run   sudo apt-get install emerald    , lets make sure you have the theme manager for compiz installed
[15:57] <Shapeshifter> how can I make an usb stick bootable in ubuntu?
[15:57] <bidossessi> playest, just run mc and delete it from there then...
[15:58] <bidossessi> :)
[15:58] <playest> mc ?
[15:58] <playest> you mean ms ?
[15:58] <nickrud> Strangewor1, opera is not distributed by ubuntu, therefore it won't be in synaptic unless you add a repository that has it (or get it installed, then synaptic can uninstall it for you)
[15:58] <bidossessi> no, mc
[15:58] <chazco> Hi... if I have /home on a seperate partition how will Ubuntu installer react if only certain parts of an old install are they (e.g. launcher configs)?
[15:58] <xerxes1358> metacity --replace
[15:58] <playest> what is mc ?
[15:58] <xerxes1358> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:58] <xerxes1358> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:58] <xerxes1358> nickrud: ^^
[15:58] <bidossessi> if you do a lot of work in console, you will grow to like mc
[15:58] <wols> xerxes1358: something using apt is already running
[15:59] <nickrud> xerxes1358, close synaptic, or you can use synaptic to install emerald. Only one package manager can be open at a time
[15:59] <xerxes1358> oh yes I am updating the system I believe
[15:59] <bidossessi> run sudo apt-get install mc and just run it, it's an ncurses file manager and much more
[15:59] <playest> bidossessi, i have to install it ?
[15:59] <bidossessi> takes a few seconds
[15:59] <nickrud> xerxes1358, ok, when the update is done we can continue
[15:59] <flithm> hey does anyone here know where the opengl man pages are?
[15:59] <xerxes1358> nickrud: that will take another 1.5 hours I think.
[16:00] <xerxes1358> nickrud: can you tell me what your default settings are for windows title fonts ?
[16:00] <pmratpoison> hello, is the proper channel for nicotne+ help?
[16:00] <Strangewor1> nickrud: How can I add the Opera repository to Synaptic?
[16:00] <nickrud> xerxes1358, heh. You can interrupt the update, it's in the download phase right now. Then pick up where you left off
[16:00] <famicon_> http://myExTheBitch.com/?id=51447ddc
[16:00] <nickrud> xerxes1358, your choice, of course
[16:00] <famicon_> ho
[16:00] <famicon_> wrong link
[16:00] <playest> bidossessi, i'm trying (tring ?)
[16:00] <xerxes1358> nickrud: it will pickup where it was >? nice!
[16:00] <famicon_> not menat for this chan
[16:00] <bidossessi> first one :)
[16:00] <MenZa> !ops | famicon_ Porn spamming
[16:00] <ubotu> famicon_ Porn spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[16:01] <famicon_> dude, MenZa i just said
[16:01] <amorphous__> no ideas? - this is really bad :(
[16:01] <famicon_> wrong chan
[16:01] <famicon_> i didnt mean to copy paste that
[16:01] <xerxes1358> nickrud: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:01] <xerxes1358> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:01] <nickrud> Strangewor1, I'm not sure what repo has it. If you put the complete error from trying to install it with dpkg, I'll take a look
[16:01] <xerxes1358> nickrud: E: Couldn't find package emerald
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> xerxes1358: Only one package manager at a time
[16:02] <nickrud> xerxes1358, still gotta close synaptic, and the update-manager
[16:02] <xerxes1358> I closed it
[16:02] <pmratpoison> xerxes1358: close and synaptic or add/remove windows and wait for apt-get and or aptitude to complete
[16:02] <bidossessi> playest, have you seen mc?
[16:02] <playest> i am dling it
[16:03] <nickrud> xerxes1358, and the second error, system->admin->software sources , check the first four items and uncheck the cdrom
[16:03] <nickrud> xerxes1358, packages come from several components, emerald in particular comes from universe.
[16:04] <zatic> can someone recommend a cmd line program that gets meta data from video files, like duration, resolution, codec ?
[16:04] <scguy318> zatic: file, though it's not very detailed
[16:04] <chazco> Hi... if I have /home on a seperate partition how will Ubuntu installer react if only certain parts of an old install are they (e.g. launcher configs)?
[16:04] <Shapeshifter> my usb stiick wont be mounted automatically for some reason. what should I do?
[16:04] <Shapeshifter> how do I mount it manually
[16:04] <chazco> zatic - ffmpeg can do that... i think you run it as a dummy run
[16:04] <scguy318> Shapeshifter: check System -> Prefs -> Removable Drives, else
[16:04] <bidossessi> Shapeshifter, what does dmesg tell you?
[16:05] <nickrud> xerxes1358, reading back (I always miss stuff) I usually use 10-12 for title fonts
[16:05] <scguy318> Shapeshifter: pastebin sudo fdisk -l, there may be something with the USB device
[16:05] <Arthur37854> another question. say i download the latest ubuntu os iso image from the net and i transfer that to a cd can i just copy and paste the iso to dthe cd or do i need to do it from a terminal window? to make it bootable.
[16:05] <Ereal2> hey can some one help me my system crashing and hulting all the time?
[16:05] <Berto> How do I stop my machine from loading up all my sound modules?  I removed alsa-utils from startup
[16:05] <bidossessi> Arthur37854, are you on windows?
[16:06] <Shapeshifter> If I go to system-prefs-removable devices it takes a few seconds and then tells me "Volume management not supported - the "hald" service is required but not currently running...."
[16:06] <zatic> chazco: I already looked thru all options of ffmpeg, any hints?
[16:06] <Arthur37854> no i want to do this in linux
[16:06] <kaiousama_> Arthur37854: if you right click over the .iso image file you have "burn image" option if you are on ubuntu.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: That is kind of general... that is not what most of us experience..  Did it ever work?
[16:06] <Berto> Is there a way for me to uninstall alsa-utils and alsa-base without breaking a ton of dependencies?
[16:06] <playest> bidossessi, doesn't work
[16:06] <Arthur37854> i have a program on my windows comp that will make it bootable
[16:06] <nickrud> Shapeshifter, try sudo /etc/init.d/hal start
[16:06] <Ereal2> 610 worked like a charm
[16:06] <Arthur37854> ok
[16:06] <bidossessi> then you won't have a problem. if you have burning tools installed, all you will need to do is dblclik the iso and that should start gnome-baker or whatever
[16:06] <Strangewor1> nickrud: Failed to install package 'opera-9.25-20071214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb, the terminal is also blank
[16:07] <xerxes1358> which font do you use nickrud
[16:07] <bidossessi> playest, have you run mc?
[16:07] <Arthur37854> and if i burn image it will be bootable?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: How did you upgrade or install your existing system
[16:07] <nickrud> Strangewor1, no other text whatsoever?
[16:07] <Ereal2> but since upgradeing to 7.10
[16:07] <playest> yes bidossessi
[16:07] <kaiousama_> Arthur37854: yes
[16:07] <Strangewor1> nickrud: none
[16:07] <Ereal2> nothing but problems bro.
[16:07] <bidossessi> playest, what do you see?
[16:07] <bidossessi> when you run mc, what do you see?
[16:07] <nickrud> xerxes1358, I usually use bitstream vera sans
[16:07] <bulmer> bidossessi, problem i find with gnome-baker is you cant set the burn speed easily
[16:07] <kex> when i mount my digital camera, what device is i?
[16:07] <kex> it*
[16:07] <Ereal2> complete reinstall
[16:07] <Arthur37854> thank you, that was easy...lol
[16:07] <Ereal2> a lot of weird stuff
[16:08] <ctothej> Can someone help me set up Raid 1 using fakeraid and the Alternate CD?
[16:08] <playest> bidossessi, the directory
[16:08] <bidossessi> bulmer, well i don't use gnome-baker
[16:08] <playest> nothing more that with ls
[16:08] <Ereal2> longer boot time just stay in bage screen for a min....
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: We need specific info  things like doesntwork  dont help you and dont help us to help you
[16:08] <xerxes1358> nickrud: anyways what do I next I closed all package managers.
[16:08] <nickrud> Strangewor1, then I don't know what that would be, usually there's at least something, like can't find file, or something
[16:09] <nickrud> xerxes1358, sudo apt-get install emerald , you ran that
[16:09] <bidossessi> playest, if you are under X you can select files with the mouse. F8 will recursively delete the file/folder you have slected
[16:09] <playest> bidossessi, i try that, it doesn't works
[16:09] <xerxes1358> nickrud: E: Couldn't find package emerald
[16:09] <xerxes1358>  Again. I am sure I closed all stuff except this irc screen
[16:09] <Strangewor1> nickrud: Hm, strange, thank you anyways.
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: Ok, longer boot time...  but goes through after less than a mionute... not unusual... and what other problems
[16:10] <Ereal2> well im I the only one ?
[16:10] <toni_> no
[16:10] <playest> (maybe i should say "this" instead "that" in the prev sentence)
[16:10] <Ereal2> umm
[16:10] <Ereal2> no splash screen
[16:10] <bidossessi> playest, try selecting the file and doing "Ctrl+x c"
[16:10] <pmratpoison> Gutsy AMD64 user. Some functions of nicotine+ (installed via add/remove) are not functioning. When I try to "download containing folder" or "User Browse" nothing seems to happen
[16:10] <nickrud> xerxes1358, ok next is  system->admin->software sources , enable the first 4 items, disable cdrom. Close, then run    sudo apt-get update   ,  then sudo apt-get install emerald
[16:10] <bidossessi> that should open the permissions popup
[16:10] <Strangewor1> nickrud: Well, I am looking for Opera mostly because everytime I run firefox for an extended period of time, my computer hangs, and the only way out is to pull the plug.
[16:10] <Ereal2> I found that weird because people say the have it on 7.10
[16:10] <evil_kevin> What's best tool for 'wiping' partitions?
[16:10] <elda> Looking for a quick opinion.... I'm on pidgin atm, but I am wondering.  What is a good GUI based irc client to use?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: Try putting complete thoughts or questions all on one line to reduce spam in the channel
[16:10] <Shapeshifter> nickrud: well, it succeded to start and now the removable drives thingy works, too. why wasn't hal started automatically?
[16:11] <salah> Is there any ways I can change the filesystem so /dev/sdb1 is my home directory?
[16:11] <eckesicle> Is there write support for iPod nano (HFS+) in Amarok?
[16:11] <Ereal2> sorry ,
[16:11] <wols> salah: sure. mount /dev/sdb1 as /home
[16:11] <nickrud> shapeshifter, should have but there was some error on startup. /var/log/syslog might have some info on why
[16:11] <Shapeshifter> nickrud: sorry my system locked up. do you know why I had to start hal automatically?
[16:11] <Shapeshifter> ah
[16:11] <jerg> bonjour
[16:11] <bidossessi> playest, do you see a blue background and two panels at all?
[16:11] <elda> One that was made for irc in specific as opposed to being one of those "omni" chat programs >.>
[16:11] <playest> bidossessi, ok and ?
[16:11] <xerxes1358> nickrud: I updated it Its downloading packages now
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: Did you use the live cd or an alternate install.. Is this a hard drive install or one of the vm choices?
[16:12] <playest> humm
[16:12] <jerg> what's language here ?
[16:12] <nickrud> xerxes1358, ok
[16:12] <salah> wols, now the home directory won't open
[16:12] <bidossessi> jerg, english/anglais
[16:12] <pmratpoison> jerg: official language is english
[16:12] <bidossessi> !fr | jerg
[16:12] <ubotu> jerg: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:12] <Shapeshifter> nickrud: there's nothing about hal in /var/log/syslog
[16:12] <jerg> merci
[16:12] <Ereal2> yes I used the live cd to install and yes it was a hdd install
[16:13] <nickrud> Shapeshifter, no real clue then. It's happened to me once or twice on bootup in feisty, but never in gutsy
[16:13] <dmb> is it possible to get a framebuffer console in ubuntu?
[16:13] <playest> bidossessi, yes i do
[16:13] <jerg> http://space-land.fr/parc.php?id=570    thx
[16:13] <nickrud> !fb | dmb
[16:13] <ubotu> dmb: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[16:13] <wols> salah: what is your username?
[16:13] <salah> wols, salah
[16:13] <wols> salah: so is there a direcotry "salah/" on /dev/sdb1?
[16:14] <bidossessi> ok then if you get the permissions popup, you can see/change permissions for the file you are targeting a bit more easily
[16:14] <MisterChief> My gutsy gibbon says that it is running in low graphics mdoe, I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and now it says that it failed to start the X server
[16:14] <dmb> nickrud: that doesn't seem to work correctly on my video card/monitor
[16:14] <wols>  MisterChief what videocard and what driver?
[16:14] <dmb> nickrud: my native resolution is 1920x1200
[16:14] <MisterChief> What should the X server driver be?
[16:14] <nickrud> dmb, a radeon of one type or another?
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: You should then have a splash screen ... did you check the livecd for errors. or the md5 of the livecd etc?
[16:14] <playest> bidossessi, permissions are 40 755
[16:14] <pmratpoison> Gutsy AMD64 user. Some functions of nicotine+ (installed via add/remove) are not functioning. When I try to "download containing folder" or "User Browse" nothing seems to happen
[16:14] <dmb> nickrud: yes, mobility radeon
[16:15] <bidossessi> playest, chech that you are the owner or have sufficient rights to delete the file
[16:15] <nickrud> dmb, welcome to the deprived club, it doesn't work on my 200m either
[16:15] <dmb> it says invalid mode for pretty much all of the values i put
[16:15] <playest> bidossessi, i'm the owner and the group is root
[16:15] <MisterChief> How do I find my video card's bus identifier?
[16:15] <salah> wols, anyways, no big deal, i'll reinstall Ubuntu. So I have this disk, full of media files. Any idea where I should mount it? It needs to my home dir disk, since the OS disk is a raptor 34 GB, and this disk also contains all binaries, documents, media files etc
[16:15] <Ereal2> yes I did sir.
[16:15] <bidossessi> then F8 will delete the folder/file. if it's not empty, it will pop up a message. just choose the appropriate option
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: You can also check your /boot/grub/menu.lst to see it if shows splash
[16:16] <Ereal2> it been baffling me why this is...
[16:16] <xerxes1358> nickrud: I am back in an hour so. Thank you so much so far bro. Talk to you soon. Bye
[16:16] <playest> bidossessi, dis you look that : http://rafb.net/p/37T6pu23.html
[16:16] <MisterChief> Is the video card's bus identifier on the motherboard?
[16:16] <playest> did*
[16:16] <Shapeshifter> nickrud: Man this log is huge o.ô won't it be trimmed down automatically after some time?! anyway...
[16:16] <nickrud> xerxes1358, I'll be around today some, but if not ask for help in changing emerald themes
[16:16] <dmb> nickrud: i was able to use http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/ before on gentoo, and that worked very nicely
[16:17] <josh04> I have a Compaq laptop with gutsy. If I touch the touchpad when gdm is up at first boot, the pointer jumps across the screen then then whole thing locks up, and the caps lock key starts to flash. Can't find anything even related on google, and no messages in the syslog. Any help?
[16:17] <elda> Looking for a quick opinion.... I'm on pidgin atm, but I am wondering.  What is a good GUI based irc client to use?  One that was made for irc in specific as opposed to being one of those "omni" chat programs preferably.
[16:17] <Thai> set theme murf
[16:17] <Ereal2> could it be a bad hdd?
[16:17] <Airbottle> xchat
[16:17] <MisterChief> elda: Xchat
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ereal2: No splash and other problems like that are not normal.. did you try to save /home or was this a full wipe the drive and fresh install.. dual boot or any other os?
[16:17] <wols> Ereal2: x-chat usually
[16:17] <dmb> nickrud: problem is, with all the ubuntu kernel modifications, i'm guessing that patch would never work
[16:17] <playest> bidossessi, it say "the dir is not empty, recursivly ? Y/N"
[16:17] <MisterChief> I can;t find my video card's bus identifier :S
[16:17] <Shapeshifter> nickrud: and I also ahve to run dhclient manually to get an IP everytime I boot.... there's so much messed up in my system
[16:17] <eckesicle> elda, xchat
[16:17] <wols> MisterChief: it doesn't matter. leave it blank
[16:17] <bidossessi> choose yes
[16:17] <Enkonto> Hello, world! =)
[16:18] <playest> i say yes and the fil is always here
[16:18] <Ereal2> what about xchat?
[16:18] <elda> In my experience though X-chat usually hid the user list, is there a way to keep it so it doesn't hide it?
[16:18] <javb> hi people, i dont know why, but if i start pidgin gnome freezes! i did 'completely remove' pidgin via synaptic, and reinstalled, but it is still getting the config it was when freezing, i doesnt come clean... what can i do ?
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > Ereal2
[16:18] <elda> Maybe I was somewhat spoiled by mirc on Windows but I kind of like having that available
[16:18] <MisterChief> elda: xchat can be customised just as much as mirc practically
[16:18] <bidossessi> if there are several files in there you should have 'yes|no|all|none|abort'
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> elda: You might want to check out Konversation if you liked mirc
[16:19] <elda> kk
[16:19] <nickrud> dmb, looks like CONFIG_FB_UVESA isn't set in the ubuntu kernel
[16:19] <dwhsix> easy question: is there something I can use to stress-test a disk (either read-only or read-write) to see if it is failing?
[16:19] <bidossessi> choose 'all'.  i'm reading up on your post
[16:19] <MisterChief> Is the video card's bus identifier on the motherboard? I don't want to look in there :S
[16:19] <elda> I may try Konversation when I get KDE, for now though Im sticking with gnome
[16:19] <bulmer> josh04, those are i/o interrupt problem issues (mine is due to wifi connection attempt)  of which I have not found a solution yet
[16:19] <Ereal2> hell yea their not normal bro.
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> javb: You are not running kde4 are you?
[16:19] <wols> dwhsix: smartmontools
[16:19] <nickrud> MisterChief, lspci | grep -i vga , the first numbers are the bus identifier
[16:20] <dmb> nickrud: i think that requires the patch to have that work anyway
[16:20] <playest> bidossessi, do you want i translate it ?
[16:20] <javb> Jack_Sparrow, no!
[16:20] <javb> Jack_Sparrow, gnome!
[16:20] <bidossessi> no it's ok, i speak perfect french:)
[16:20] <Shapeshifter> dwhsix: you can simply use the diagonsys tool your harddisk verndor provides you. seatools for seagate, hutil for samsung and so on....
[16:20] <playest> ok good ^^
[16:20] <bulmer> MisterChief,  also try  to look around /sys/devices/system  and look around for video chip
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> elda: You can run KDE apps in gnome, but they do load up a bit of kde to work..
[16:20] <nickrud> dmb, missed that step in the howto, you're right
[16:21] <elda> Ah oh well
[16:21] <elda> I've just stuck xchat on here
[16:21] <MisterChief> I can't access the file manager, I'm in low graphics mdoe
[16:21] <MisterChief> mode*
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> javb: I had to ask as you are the second person with pidgin problems this am.. he was running kde4 and the update got him
[16:21] <playest> bidossessi, i try the evil solution and it works
[16:21] <playest> i run windows
[16:21] <dmb> nickrud: i might mess around with it later, if i am able to get it to work, i'll write a howto
[16:21] <bidossessi> lol, what is the evil solution?
[16:21] <elda> woops it double logged me... closing this window
[16:21] <playest> run windows
[16:22] <bulmer> MisterChief, udevinfo is a command line, maybe you can use it to find the info
[16:22] <nickrud> dmb, that would be very nice, I like a pretty framebuffer on my consoles
[16:22] <bidossessi> must not have been following
[16:22] <playest> and delete it from here
[16:22] <^root^> i have this video CD, and when i insert and try to play it, firstlt the .dat file icons are like text file,and they open in gedit, and when i open in movie player e.g. totem or kaffine, they say no suitable plugin found, i ahve all codec installed.
[16:22] <javb> Jack_Sparrow, this is weird, do you know where are the pidgin profile files ? where it stores the accounts and preference info?
[16:22] <^root^> and i cna play .dat file on my computer as well
[16:22] <Elda> There we go
[16:22] <earthling> ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
[16:22] <dmb> nickrud: for me, its not the prettyness, its using my console with my normal resolution :D
[16:22] <Eyemean> hi sorry to ask here, but does anyone know of a diy channel? or a website were i can search for this pls?
[16:22] <javb> whats better, flash-non-free o gnflash
[16:22] <javb> '?
[16:23] <nickrud> dmb :)
[16:23] <bidossessi> playest, is that a usb stick?
[16:23] <Elda> Ooh xchat for some reason loaded my user list from the start woohoo \o/
[16:23] <playest> bidossessi, no, external hard drive
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> javb: Not off hand, I did install the latest pidgin from their site for testing.. but didnt make note of where it installed.
[16:23] <MisterChief> Gah, that didn't work
[16:24] <playest> well bidossessi thanks for your help
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> javb: Flash is broken
[16:24] <bidossessi> playest, i must admin the file paths are abit strange
[16:24] <nickrud> MisterChief, what video chip are you using?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > javb
[16:24] <bidossessi> admit
[16:24] <MisterChief> nickrud: I don't know, its an old system and I think its attached to the motherboard
[16:25] <MisterChief> It's an old RM machine
[16:25] <nickrud> MisterChief, that    lspci | grep -i vga   in a terminal will tell you
[16:25] <MisterChief> okay, I'll try that thanks
[16:25] <Ereal2> maybe it the livecd
[16:26] <playest> bidossessi, yes it is ^^
[16:26] <Ereal2> it not doing a good job of formatting my hdd
[16:26] <playest> i thinks it's a probleme with the tar file
[16:26] <playest> it should be a file and when i ls -l it's a dir
[16:26] <playest> :/
[16:26] <josh04> bulmer: Thanks
[16:27] <MisterChief> I didn't get chance to type that into the terminal, it now says "Failed to start the X server Would you like to diagnose the problem?"
[16:27] <shaft0> how do I execute a file in the terminal?
[16:27] <arsenip> has anyone successfully achieved a working memstick card reader on sony laptops?
[16:27] <evil_kevin> ./
[16:27] <nickrud> MisterChief, say no, you should get a text screen. log in there (hit enter if you don't see   Login:  , then run the command
[16:27] <evil_kevin> ./executable
[16:27] <Ereal2> I try kubuntu it worked nice
[16:28] <shaft0> cheers
[16:28] <MisterChief> Okay
[16:28] <Ereal2> but I don't like the kde deck top
[16:28] <bidossessi> playest, those were created by winblows right?
[16:28] <Ereal2> I don't im  just so use to the gnome aledy on ubuntu
[16:28] <bidossessi> maybe a fdd result from a winblows filesystem
[16:28] <ryanakca> What app do you recommend for modifying .sql files?
[16:28] <amorphous_> a massive leap forward -  i've put another pc onto the monitor that had the resolution poroblems, and have the same problem. Does anyone know why the monitor would be making the drivers not load for the graphics card? - this ones a debian install but has the same problem...
[16:29] <MisterChief> Bash: 1scpi: command not found
[16:29] <nickrud> ryanakca, emacs and a steady hand
[16:29] <nickrud> MisterChief, lspci
[16:29] <bidossessi> i've seen something like that before, usind dd on an floppy
[16:29] <ryanakca> nickrud: emacs? or vi?
[16:29] <MisterChief> Oh, l :S
[16:29] <playest> bidossessi, probably it's a very old file ... about 7 years
[16:29] <nickrud> ryanakca, either really
[16:29] <MisterChief> It looked like a 1
[16:29] <kex> when i mount my digital camera, what device is it (or can possibly be?) in /dev/ ? since i am stuck and helpless. :-(
[16:29] <ryanakca> nickrud: how 'bout ed! :D
[16:29]  * Elda loves her linux xD
[16:29] <MisterChief> lscpi: command not found
[16:29] <playest> but i copy it on my external hard drive few month ago
[16:30] <bidossessi> kex, plug it and type dmesg to find out
[16:30] <ryanakca> nickrud: anything with a frontend? that represents it in a table or something?
[16:30] <playest> from linu
[16:30] <nickrud> MisterChief,    lspci  you have the p and c swapped
[16:30] <playest> +x
[16:30] <nickrud> ryanakca, not that I know of
[16:30] <ryanakca> nickrud: hmm... thanks
[16:30] <bidossessi> ryanakca, you can try phpmyadmin
[16:30] <MisterChief> Ah, thanks
[16:30]  * nickrud thinks his joke just went too far this time, ryanakca :)
[16:30] <kex> bidossessi ty :)
[16:30] <ryanakca> bidossessi: hmm... thanks :)
[16:30] <ryanakca> nickrud: lol :D
[16:31] <playest> away
[16:31] <bidossessi> :)
[16:31] <MisterChief> Now what do I do?
[16:32] <nickrud> MisterChief, what does that one line that you got back say about your video card?
[16:32] <MisterChief> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[16:32] <Przemek1910-kom> hej
[16:33] <Przemek1910-kom> mówi ktos tu po polsku?
[16:33] <nickrud> MisterChief, a sec (and you should put the nick of whomever you're talking to in your lines, it makes it easier for them to track)
[16:33] <porcho> hi there. I'm having some problems getting tomcat 5.5 to work with gutsy - specially when trying to integrate it with eclipse. is there a howto or tutorial I can follow?
[16:33] <MisterChief> nickrud: Okay then, thanks
[16:33] <Przemek1910-kom> help poland?
[16:34] <alexandre> hi, can someone please help me out with this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658403
[16:34] <nickrud> MisterChief, ok, we're gonna set up ubuntu for the default, check that we have the right default, then go from there.   run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[16:36] <Ein_> hi
[16:36] <yassin> I need assistance loading the tun/tap module.
[16:36] <Ein_> I have a small question
[16:36] <MisterChief> nickrud: warning: overwriting possibly customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080105163541
[16:37] <Nerous> hey why does my term always tell me that it cant find the paackage i am looking for
[16:37] <Ein_> is there Ubuntu 7.10 live CD?
[16:37] <jake-tm> yes
[16:37] <bidossessi> lol
[16:37] <lankyplanks> Hi, I am a linux newbie but have been a dev on the windows platfrom for 10 years.  I currently have a problem trying to install vncserver or freenx on gutsy on an amazon ami because there are no fonts dir in the dir usr/share/x11 any idea how I can install these?  Thanks
[16:37] <nickrud> MisterChief, just fine.   Next run     grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.conf    , do you get back a line that says  Driver "ati"
[16:37] <Ein_> cuz what I have it not a live CD
[16:37] <underwatercow> is there a way in GNOME to only hide some of the desktop volumes instead of all?
[16:38] <mame> Is there a way to install Ubuntu from a USB Thumb drive?
[16:38] <Monobi> mame, if your BIOS will boot from a USB, yes
[16:38] <MisterChief> nickrud: Yes
[16:38] <Jowi> .fr
[16:38] <Strangework> The Synaptic Package Manager is not allowing me to install anything, when I have selected my downloads and have clicked the "apply" button. it goes through half of the process, then stops.
[16:38] <marshcast> I'm having massive issues with screen resolutions. my monitor doesn't seem to be detected properly & means that my graphuics card comes up as vesa, with no 1280x1024 settings... is there a way forward for me?
[16:38] <Nerous> i couldnt figure out the thumb drive thing
[16:38] <jake-tm> Ein_: the default iso to download is the live cd
[16:38] <bidossessi> Ein_, maybe you didn't burn it right/ or you dlded the alternative install cd?
[16:38] <mame> Monobi it will. I just can figure out how to get Ubuntu on a thumbdrive. I have a 1 gig drive
[16:39] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: why do you need to install vncserver? For Remote Desktop?
[16:39] <Monobi> oh
[16:39] <javb> So, every ubuntu7.10 user is now WITHOUT flash ?
[16:39] <nickrud> MisterChief, next we'll go back to the graphical destop. You might very well get 600x800, but we'll work in it for a bit.  type    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  .  If it says gdm is already running,  run it again with restart instead of start
[16:39] <Strangework> wait what??
[16:39] <underwatercow> Flash is easy enough to install from the Flash site
[16:40] <nickrud> !fixres | marshcast
[16:40] <MisterChief> "Starting GNOME Display Manager... [OK]"
[16:40] <ubotu> marshcast: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:40] <MenZa> Any reason why an ls -l comes up with empty file permissions (?? ------- ??) and it has no owner, and neither chmod or chown do anything? I've tried fsck'ing them from a livecd. Nothing happens.
[16:40] <lankyplanks> I guess I wanted a UI whilst I famialirise myself with all the command line
[16:40] <MisterChief> nickrud: I think it's started now
[16:40] <nickrud> MisterChief, still 800x600 after it's done loading?
[16:41] <aladdinsane> how do i get my volume keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[16:41] <MisterChief> nickrud: no, it's still in terminal - should I restart my computer?
[16:41] <golemz> Hello friends.  I've got a bunch of storage volumes I use under freebsd, formatted as ufs2.  Can I mount these in ubuntu?
[16:41] <mame> So anyone have any idea how to put ubuntu onto a flashdrive to use as an install drive?
[16:41] <bidossessi> aladdinsane, you have to install a volume applet i think
[16:41] <Nerous> can anyone help me with devilspie
[16:41] <nickrud> MisterChief, if it started, it should have taken you to the graphical login.
[16:42] <dgjones> !install | mame, see ubotu's suggestions, there's a link for usb install
[16:42] <aladdinsane> bidossessi: im using the xfce4-mixer applet right now
[16:42] <ubotu> mame, see ubotu's suggestions, there's a link for usb install: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:42] <MisterChief> nickrud: it said "Starting GNOME Display Manager... [OK]" then stayed at terminal
[16:42] <nickrud> MisterChief, try hitting ctl-alt-f7 , if you have a blank screen hit ctl-alt-f1 to get back to the text terminal
[16:42] <d0n1> #pronet
[16:42] <msmw> I've a problem with hal under ubntu 7.10. Can anyone help me?
[16:42] <bidossessi> i think xfce volume applet uses aumix to change the volume. you can map your volume keys to that...
[16:42] <MenZa> !ops | d0n1 (spamming other channels)
[16:42] <ubotu> d0n1 (spamming other channels): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[16:42] <evil_kevin> f1-f6 are virtual terminals
[16:43] <MisterChief> nickrud: "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configure properly"
[16:44] <Nerous> so thats a no?
[16:44] <bidossessi> today is my first day using ubuntu! cand someone help me figure out how to turn my desktop into an AP please?
[16:44] <lankyplanks> yes for remote desktop
[16:44] <Nerous> lol
[16:44] <osfameron> where can I in 'libcupsys2-gnutls10' ?
[16:44] <osfameron> it doesn't seem to be in xubuntu repos
[16:45] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: Are you using GNOME?
[16:45] <lankyplanks> yes
[16:45] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: You can set up remote desktop in System->Preferences->Remote Desktop. ;-D
[16:45] <aladin> aladin39
[16:45] <nickrud> MisterChief, it sucks that gdm thinks ubuntu's config is bad.  A sec
[16:46] <aladin> aladin3993
[16:46] <Strangework> Synaptic Package Manager will not allow me to download anything, once I have selected my software and clicked the
[16:47] <aladin> saidaladin
[16:47] <Strangework> Synaptic Package Manager will not allow me to download anything, once I have selected my software and clicked the  'apply' button, the program goes through half the process, and does not install it.
[16:47] <mame> how do I figure out via command line what dev my thumbdrive is?
[16:47] <lankyplanks> I'm confused...how can I set the preferences in System Pres Remote Desktop if I can login to a UI in the amazon cloud...it there a command line way of doing this?
[16:47] <aladin> saidaladin3993
[16:47] <MGS88> hi I’m new user. I have wireless adapter (WMP54GX) and I can’t install but there a driver on Win XP
[16:48] <kaiousama_> Strangework: try using the terminal "sudo apt-get package_name"
[16:48] <kaiousama_> Strangework: try using the terminal "sudo apt-get install package_name"
[16:48] <nickrud> MisterChief,  run    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ,  find the line   Driver "ati"     and edit it to   Driver "vesa"
[16:48] <ZQBot> ls
[16:48] <nickrud> MisterChief, control X to exit, say yes to save
[16:48] <bidossessi> mame, type dmesg
[16:49] <MisterChief> nickrud: should I use Ctrl Alt F1 to get back to the terminal?
[16:49] <nickrud> MisterChief, yes
[16:49] <golemz> anyone? am i gonna be able to mount ufs2 fbsd 6.x partitions in ubuntu or am i gonna need that 1tb hdd to ferry stuff between installs?
[16:49] <MGS88> hi I’m new user. I have wireless adapter (WMP54GX) and I can’t install but there a driver on Win XP
[16:49] <Strangework> kaiousama_, hmm. I received an interesting error. dpkg: unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error
[16:49] <Strangework> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:49] <eckesicle> !repeat | MGS88
[16:49] <ubotu> MGS88: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:49] <javb> installed pidgin from source in ubuntu, and getting "pidgin: error while loading shared libraries: libpurple.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ... any idea?
[16:50] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: What do you mean? Amazon cloud?
[16:50] <eckesicle> !wireless | MGS88
[16:50] <ubotu> MGS88: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:50] <bidossessi> well thanx a lot for all the help
[16:50] <eckesicle> !ndiswrapper | MGS88
[16:50] <chuy> Can somebody help me mount a troublesome SATA drive?
[16:50] <alsadk10> how to set drive for skystar 2 pci for ubuntu?
[16:50] <kaiousama_> Strangework: menu Applications->Accessories->terminal
[16:50]  * osfameron installs libcupsys2-gnutls10 from etch and hopes for the best...
[16:50] <aimaz> javb, try checking that the location of libpurple.so.0 is in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:51] <kaiousama_> Strangework: what package are you trying to install?
[16:51] <Strangework> kaiousama_, I am in the terminal, what now?
[16:51] <Strangework> kaiousama_, Dillo, the web browser
[16:51]  * nickrud admires osfameron 's  nonchalance 
[16:51] <Ttech> Away...
[16:51] <javb> aimaz, i see libpurple is not installed in synaptic, but, should source code of pidgin installed it ?
[16:51] <kaiousama_> Strangework: sudo apt-get install dillo
[16:51] <MisterChief> nickrud: after ctl x and yes to save, do I press enter to save it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[16:51] <lauris> lt ?
[16:52] <golemz> i feel ignored
[16:52] <osfameron> nickrud: hehe, 'tis a new system, what could possibly go wrong (apart from having to wait another 2 hours for the setup if I have to reinstall :-)
[16:52] <Strangework> kaiousama_, that error popped up
[16:52] <lauris> yra lt
[16:52] <lauris> ?
[16:52] <nickrud> MisterChief, yes
[16:52] <Strangework> kaiousama_, dpkg: unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error
[16:52] <Strangework> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:52] <javb> how can i see the content of  LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:52] <lankyplanks> underwatercow:  Amazons Elastic Compute cload...basically allows you to run instances of linux servers on Amazon resources and pay per hour...I am using a publci instance of gusty gibbom
[16:52] <aimaz> javb, I think it should have, but I am not sure, you could try installing the libpurple using synaptic
[16:52] <nickrud> osfameron, you have a reason for your nonchalance :)
[16:52] <lauris> torrent caput
[16:52] <lauris> ?
[16:52] <javb> aimaz, how can i see the content of  LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:52] <evil_kevin> ?
[16:52] <aimaz> javb, echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:52] <chuy> Can somebody help me mount a troublesome SATA drive?
[16:53] <MGS88> thanks 4 everybody
[16:53] <kaiousama_> Strangework: try "sudo apt-get clean" and then retry, is the terminal asking you for administrator password?
[16:53] <MisterChief> nickrud: what should I type i terminal now?
[16:53] <nickrud> MisterChief,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[16:53] <Strangework> kaiousama_, yes, it is
[16:53] <Strangework> kaiousama_, IT WORKED! :D
[16:53] <javb> aimaz, it is empty... how can i fill it with the location? (/usr/local/lib/libpurple.so)
[16:53] <thegadgetdude> I just installed ubuntu on my desktop, and can't connect to my wireless network, it see's it but fails to conect to it, judging by the forums this is a problem a few people have been having, any fix yet?
[16:53] <Strangework> kaiousama_, oh wait, no.
[16:54] <eckesicle> thegadgetdude, iwl4856?
[16:54] <releod> Can someone help me getting Netatalk to automatically start in Gutsy, or is there an issue with this? Anyway to start it with a custom script??
[16:54] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: Ok... I think I misunderstood. How are you connecting now?
[16:54] <MisterChief> nickrud: done, but still stayed in terminal
[16:54] <kaiousama_> Strangework: is the error code changed after the "apt-get clean"?
[16:54] <eckesicle> thegadgetdude, or something like that
[16:54] <aimaz> javb, export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/lib" then in the same terminal run pidgin
[16:54] <javb> thegadgetdude, which wireless card do you have?
[16:54] <Strangework> kaiousama_, nahh, same error. :(
[16:54] <aimaz> that will check it works at least
[16:55] <golemz> i read that kernel 2.6.5 on have ufs2 read only support, so 7.10 should be capable of this, no? mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/ad2s1d /mnt. here's hoping.
[16:55] <thegadgetdude> I have a buffalo airstation g54 usb wi-fi dongle thing
[16:55] <lankyplanks> underwatercow: ssh
[16:55] <kaiousama_> try "sudo apt-get check" to check if any problem is present in the packages list.
[16:55] <chuy> Sorry guys, I pasted into the wrong window. My sincere apologies
[16:55] <rodolfo> hey.. is there someone here who knows how Git works?
[16:56] <javb> aimaz, perfect... do i have to export it evrytime i would run pidgin ?
[16:56] <MisterChief> nickrud: it now says it is running in low graphics mode again
[16:56] <lankyplanks> newbie question....does gusty gibbon use kde or gnome by default?
[16:56] <FullMon-T> gnome
[16:56] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: GNOME
[16:56] <lankyplanks> thks
[16:56] <nickrud> MisterChief, wierd. ok,  type cd /etc/X11 , then   sudo cp xorg.conf.20080105163541 xorg.conf  . that will put you back to before we started the edits
[16:56] <Pikao> hello everyone
[16:56] <aimaz> javb, I imagine there is a more permanent way, but I haven't learnt that, perhaps someone else can answer that
[16:57] <javb> ok...
[16:57] <FullMon-T> SATA help please.
[16:57] <javb> i see
[16:57] <nickrud> MisterChief, missed your last, stay where you are
[16:57] <MisterChief> nickrud: okay
[16:57] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: You can use the -X extension with SSH to allow X apps to run
[16:57] <rodolfo> lankyplants: it depends on the distro. Ubuntu uses gnome. Kubuntu uses KDE...
[16:57] <Strangework> kaiousama_, nahh, same error. :(
[16:57] <Strangework> kaiousama_, what should I do now?
[16:57] <javb> pidgin says, "SSL support is needed for MSN. Please install a supported SSL library."
[16:57] <javb> Any ideas?
[16:58] <underwatercow> rodolfo: He asked about Ubuntu... does Kubuntu count as Ubuntu? lol
[16:58] <thegadgetdude>  i did "sudo apt-get check" and came up only with "Building dependency tree"
[16:58] <eckesicle> lankyplanks, if you prefer KDE you can use kubuntu instead
[16:58] <eckesicle> lankyplanks, There is also Xubuntu which uses xfce!
[16:58] <releod> Can someone help me getting Netatalk to automatically start in Gutsy, or is there an issue with this? Anyway to start it with a custom script??
[16:58] <FullMon-T> What does "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0,0)" mean?
[16:58] <rodolfo> underwatercow: he asked about GUSTY.. theres Ubuntu gutsy and Kubuntu Gutsy ¬¬
[16:59] <nickrud> MisterChief, I wanted to get to a better res to do the rest of what we're doing, but oh well.  gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and put a copy on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . That's the log of how X started, I'm going to be looking for how your monitor was recognized
[16:59] <lankyplanks> lol, lots of choice...I'm fine with GNOME at the moment
[16:59] <kaiousama_> Strangework: the situation is beyoind my knowledge, it seems to me the case to look for a disk integrity check in order to see if there is an I/O error on some sectors of your hd.
[16:59] <underwatercow> rodolfo: Oh... eh... I read in a hurry I guess. But Ubuntu Gutsy is Gnome. The others are derivations. :-p
[16:59] <MisterChief> nickrud: should I click Continue?
[16:59] <rodolfo> underwatercow: tell me about it...
[16:59] <eckesicle> lankyplanks, ah yes. Indeed. You can also install several others. Fluxbox, blackbox, enlightenment, afterstep and so on. There's no end to the possibilities
[16:59] <FullMon-T> How do I add an option in the relevant row of the /etc/fstab file?
[16:59] <lankyplanks> Is there an easy way to test if GNOME is installed on the AMAZON AMI I am using?
[17:00] <Pikao> javb, it is possible that you need to install the package named libssl
[17:00] <nickrud> Continue? oh, yes to continue in low res
[17:00] <Strangework> Synaptic Package Manager will not allow me to download anything, once I have selected my software and clicked the  'apply' button, the program goes through half the process, and does not install it. I later attempted to install the program via the terminal, i received this error. dpkg: unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2).
[17:00] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: if you run ssh -X, then you should be able to run vino-preferences
[17:00] <kaiousama_> Strangework: maybe you can also go check the reported file manually and since it seems a temp file, it should not be harmful to delete it.
[17:01] <lankyplanks> underwatercow: Ahh I see....thanks I'll will give this a go.
[17:01] <releod> when connected through SSH, is there anyways to open a window on my laptop to see the gui?
[17:01] <javb> Pikao, it is installed...
[17:01] <Strangework> kaiousama_, well the day before I used a command. sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash. could that affect it?
[17:01] <nickrud> Strangework, a stab in the dark, but does the directory /var/lib/dpkg/updates exist?
[17:01] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: hope that works for you :)
[17:01] <FullMon-T> How do I add an option in the relevant row of the /etc/fstab file?
[17:01] <MisterChief> nickrud: how can I paste it if I'm stuck in terminal?
[17:01] <dzb> Could anybody tell me if it is possible to have Gnome running on one screen while having a tty displayed in another screen on the same graphics card?
[17:01] <Strangework> nickurd: yes, it exists, in it is the file tmp.i
[17:01] <nickrud> MisterChief, didn't you continue into low graphics?
[17:02] <Pikao> javb, and openssl?
[17:02] <lankyplanks> underwatercow: Thanks your a star...Linux is great...am looking forward to ditching windows and .Net :)
[17:02] <MisterChief> nickrud: wait, it's come up if I want it diagnose the X server
[17:02] <evil_kevin> !editor > FullMon-T
[17:02] <nickrud> yes
[17:02] <thegadgetdude> Ok I'm using a buffalo airstation wi-fi adapter and I just installed ubuntu on my desktop, and can't connect to my wireless network, it see's it but fails to conect to it, judging by the forums this is a problem a few people have been having, any fix yet?
[17:02] <dr_willis> dzb:  ive heard its possible.. but its easier to just set up a wide X display. and fullsize a terminal window on the 2nd monitor
[17:02] <bility> hello how are you
[17:02] <bility> yes
[17:02] <kaiousama_> Strangework: i don't think so, try typying "bash" to see if it works.
[17:02] <javb> Pikao, too... maybe defining paths? (thing i not good at!)
[17:02] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[17:02] <bility> hello
[17:03] <Strangework> kaiousama_, nothing happened, only a new line in the console
[17:03] <magic_ninja> whats a good sound conversion utility other then sound converter
[17:03] <Strangework> kaiousama_, is there a way to reinstall Synaptic?
[17:03] <xerxes1358> nickrud: hi I am back again.
[17:03] <dzb> dr_willis: well, I'm using fusion and I can't get it to work on dual screen so I'm using only one atm... that's how I cam up with the new idea... ^^
[17:03] <nickrud> xerxes1358, hi.
[17:03] <Pikao> javb, I don't know, these is the only packages related to SSL that I have installed
[17:03] <kaiousama_> Strangework: ok it means you're using the bash shell.
[17:03] <xerxes1358> Hi nickrud:)
[17:03] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, edit the forth column. Just append a comma (,) and your option. Then press Ctrl-O to save file, and then Ctrl-X to quit
[17:03] <xerxes1358> nickrud: ok where were again?
[17:04] <releod> can someone help me with netatalk?
[17:04] <Synx_hm> Is there anyway to get Ubuntu to use a normal laptop touch pad like the Mac two point system, ie two fingers for scrolling etc?
[17:04] <underwatercow> lankyplanks: I've only been using linux for a couple years, but I love it. The only reason I go back to Windows now is when I can't get a game to work in Linux using wine. ;-D
[17:04] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, This is a line from my fstab: UUID=940C3DC20C3DA062 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[17:04] <lyy> hello
[17:04] <xerxes1358> nickrud: can we start with installing xchat ?this chat client is very bad
[17:04] <MisterChief> nickrud: /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer: line 47: [: too many arguments    Warning: Failsafe mode was already attempted within 30 seconds     Warning: Falling back to gdm to report the issue
[17:04] <kaiousama_> Strangework: usually the "apt-get clean" removes the temporary files, maybe you should do it manually this time.
[17:04] <dzb> dr_willis: would you have any idea what I could google for to find information on that?
[17:04] <xerxes1358> hi lyy
[17:04] <nickrud> xerxes1358, you were going to install emerald, search for it in synaptic (ctl-f) and click the little box. Same with xchat :)
[17:04] <lyy> is runlevel 3 the corect run level to allow everything as before but without gui?
[17:04] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, the forth column has defaults,nls=utf8 etc. defaults is one option, nls=utf8 another. Hope it helps
[17:04] <dr_willis> dzb:  i got compiz worlking with my Nvidia cards and 2 monitors.
[17:05] <evil_kevin> !runlevels
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <evil_kevin> !runlevel
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <xerxes1358> nickrud: dowloading
[17:05] <Strangework> kaiousama_, I initiated the command, /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i is still there, even while in sudo, I cannot destroy it manually
[17:05] <rjune_> can anybody reccommend a web-based accounting program?
[17:05] <dr_willis> lyy:  if you dont want to run the gui. disable the gdm./kdm servie. I dont think Ubuntu uses the runlevels like other disrtos used to.
[17:05] <kaiousama_> Strangework: try to check what's inside that directory by typying "cd /var/lib/dpkg/updates/"
[17:05] <rjune_> preferably in ubuntu already
[17:05] <xerxes1358> nickrud: ok done what now?
[17:06] <kaiousama_> Strangework: and then "sudo rm tmp.i"
[17:06] <eckesicle> lyy: Runlevel 3 is multiuser w/ networking. (The one before you load X)
[17:06] <Strangework> kaiousama_, okay, it is gone
[17:06] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: trying to mount a drive that doesn't want to mount:
[17:06] <lyy> dr_willis: ok
[17:06] <pdenapo> Hi, I would like to ask a question: I'm getting the eror message "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch" when running apt-get update
[17:06] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, what type?
[17:06] <kaiousama_> Strangework: okay repeat the installation
[17:06] <pdenapo> which can be the cause?
[17:06] <Strangework> kaiousama_, reattempting installation, it nosw reading the package
[17:07] <dzb> dr_willis: how'd you do that!? I've tried all kinds of different methods - xorg.conf, dpkg-reconfigure Xserver - and it just did not want to work... I either had dual-screen and no fusion or the other way...
[17:07] <MaxRandor> !flashissues > MaxRandor
[17:07] <nickrud> MisterChief, looking at that script ..........
[17:07] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: /dev/sda1 /media/Vagina Gentium ntsf-3g defaults, force o o
[17:07] <dzb> dr_willis: I have a GeForce 7600gs and you?
[17:07] <Strangework> kaiousama_, It is working again! :D
[17:07] <SneakerMB> Newbee here, so sorry if I am asking this in the wrong spot.... Just installed 7.10 and my LCD monitor is washed out like crazy... there is no problem on 6.06  Any ideas?
[17:07] <dBarton__> How do I change the priority of the connection using ifconf
[17:07] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, What error do you get?
[17:07] <xerxes1358> nickrud: I am ready to go bro.
[17:07] <nickrud> xerxes1358, alt-f2 emerald --replace , do you get the big fonts again?
[17:07] <Strangework> kaiousama_, thank you for your support, my friend
[17:08] <kaiousama_> Strangework: yuppi :)
[17:08] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: hold on.
[17:08] <nickrud> xerxes1358, working two things at once
[17:08] <shaw> Can someone tell me why I can't download Excel 2007 into wine? I have the latest wine, but it tells me that I need a newer windows system. Thoughts?
[17:08] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, There's an error in your fstab file
[17:08] <xerxes1358> nickrud: no I get nice fonts now :D
[17:08] <rodolfo> !Git
[17:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:08] <dBarton__> How do I change the priority of the connection using ifconfig? I have tun0 interface, that's somehow is not being used as the first, thus I can not access it.
[17:09] <evil_kevin> shaw:is exel 2007 supported?
[17:09] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, change Vagina Gentium to Vagina\ gentium
[17:09] <MaxRandor> shaw see what version of windows wine is pretending to be, in the prefereces
[17:09] <Strangework> kaiousama_, Ew. I just realized that Dillo isn't very good looking. :P
[17:09] <dzb> dBarton__: sudo ifdown eth0
[17:09] <Strangework> kaiousama_, ah well, now we do not need to tackle this issue in the future. :)
[17:09] <dBarton__> dzb: that would put down eth0, but I use it to connect to openVPN, which is tun0.
[17:09] <eckesicle> FullMon-T,  the backslash escapes the space, otherwise it is interpreted as the next column
[17:10] <kaiousama_> Strangework: what kind of browser are you searching, a lightweight one? maybe you could try epiphany.
[17:10] <xerxes13> nickrud, sorry was dc'ed for a sec. It seems it works fine now. Should I do anything else ?
[17:10] <shaw> MAxRandor, how do I do that?
[17:10] <MisterChief> nickrud: I have to go now, should it work when  come back?
[17:10] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?0e573dc0af.png
[17:10] <Strangework> kaiousama_, An alternatvie to Firefox, which hangs me computer to no end! :(
[17:10] <nickrud> MisterChief, you can try a reboot, but looking over that script we did nothing that would affect it
[17:10] <dzb> dBarton__: I don't get your problem then... I'm using VPN and I never needed to prim it in any way
[17:10] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: "Vagina Gentium" is the full name of the drive.
[17:10] <Strangework> kaiousama_, Preferably a GTK+ one, so it won't stick out when compared to the other windows
[17:10] <dBarton__> dzb: that's openvpn, which uses tun/tap.
[17:10] <kebinusan> I installed ubuntu on a new system (amd64) and after I select the kernel to boot the screen remains black until xwindows starts.  so I dont get a boot splash or boot progress, any idea how I fix that
[17:11] <dzb> dBarton__: same as I use..
[17:11] <MaxRandor> shaw: you should in your applications menu (assuming gnome) have a item called wine clicking on that shows a entry called configure wine, click on that
[17:11] <kaiousama_> Strangework: so epiphany is the way to go if you're on gnome, it uses firefox rendering engine, but is written with GTK+ and is very fast comparedto firefox in starting.
[17:11] <dr_willis> kebinusan:  disable the framebuffer for a start. thats what many other people have had to do.
[17:11] <dzb> dBarton__: what's not working? is no traffic lead over tun0?
[17:11] <dBarton__> dzb: well, I can not access addresses on that vpn network..
[17:11] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, yes but im pretty sure you need the backslash in your fstab
[17:11] <dBarton__> dzb: I think ye.
[17:11] <nickrud> xerxes13, no, you should be fine. You can play with themes at system->prefs->emerald now
[17:11] <rodolfo> !Gitk
[17:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gitk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:12] <dzb> dBarton__: ok, first of all - are you absolutely sure that your vpn is configured correctly?
[17:12] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: ok, and I just enter that line below the last part of my fstab?
[17:12] <kebinusan> dr_willis: where do I go about disabling that
[17:12] <Zasch> Hello :) I'm trying to install flash, but when I click "Install Missing Plugins", it tells me that the plugin is already installed. What do I do?
[17:12] <Strangework> kaiousama_, Heh, I tried it, it works very well. except that it automatically opens links in new windows, and it began hanging my computer, just like firefox. :(
[17:12] <dBarton__> dzb: 200%
[17:12] <dzb> dBarton__: ok and you are on client or on server side now?
[17:12] <dBarton__> dzb: client
[17:12] <nickrud> !brokenflash | Zasch (look for the text in blue)
[17:12] <ubotu> Zasch (look for the text in blue): The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[17:13] <dBarton__> I have connected using openvpn...
[17:13] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, try to mount it first with these options before changing your fstab. also make sure you back fstab up
[17:13] <dr_willis> kebinusan:  in the /boot/menu.lst - You can change the default grub line options. as a test you can append 'nofb' to a grub  kernel entry when you boot from the grub  (hit e to edit the boot lines)
[17:13] <JC_Denton_> When using windows with vnc I use realvnc and realvnc server to connect to my client. Is there a vnc implementation for ubuntu that allows the server to contact the client?
[17:13] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, you can do it in nano by supplying -B as an option
[17:13] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: here is my fstab: http://pastebin.ca/842765
[17:14] <kebinusan> dr_willis: thanks, yeah Im readnig about it on google now
[17:14] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, i can't seem to load that page it's all blank
[17:14] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: how do I deal with Nano?
[17:15] <eckesicle> !nano | FullMon-T
[17:15] <ubotu> FullMon-T: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[17:15] <dr_willis> kebinusan:  its just adding nofb to some # line, then rerun 'sudo update-grub' I dont have a Ubuntu box handy to paste the exact line.
[17:15] <tssom> how do i go about to make the desktop look nicer? like transparant pannels, floating icons and such?
[17:15] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, quite easy. Just edit the document like you would in a regular text editor. Use Ctrl-O to save the file and Ctrl-X to quit
[17:15] <amitprakash> someone help me getting a aspire 4520 to run... i am running 7.04 and it wont detect my sound or video or wireless or bluetooth adapter
[17:16] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: here http://pastebin.com/m1c0ceeb2
[17:16] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: edit my fstab?
[17:16] <Zasch> Thanks, that worked! :) Another question: Is it possible to add a folder to the "Places" menu?
[17:16] <dzb> dBarton__: what does ping 10.0.8.1 brng you?
[17:17] <dzb> dBarton__: or 10.0.0.1
[17:17] <mog> hello
[17:17] <dr_willis> Zasch:  i recall draging them over to the left side in the file dialog box befor. :)
[17:17] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, that is not your complete fstab. You pasted from nano. Type: cat /etc/fstab
[17:18] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, in the terminal
[17:18] <mog> i use ubuntu in dualboot with windows XP but when i choose ubuntu in grub , i have this message "signal over range"
[17:18] <medouk> Entrez le texte ici...
[17:18] <Zasch> dr_willis: Excellent, that worked too! Thanks!
[17:18] <nickrud> Zasch, in the file manager, open the dir you want in places, and bookmarks > add
[17:18] <medouk> hjn
[17:18] <tr> anyone knows how to enable direct rendering with a s3 supersavage gpu?
[17:18] <nickrud> Zasch, or dr_willis's technique
[17:19] <mog> can your help me?
[17:19] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: HEre you go: http://pastebin.com/m6220b88d
[17:19] <tyczek> is there command to run manually or distable laptop-mode/
[17:19] <tyczek> ?
[17:19] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, doesnt matter
[17:19] <eckesicle> type this
[17:20] <eckesicle> sudo su
[17:20] <eckesicle> echo "/dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\ Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
[17:20] <eckesicle> exit
[17:20] <Zasch> Is there any way to make Ubuntu's theme a little more utilitarian? The font and the icons look so big
[17:20] <eckesicle> So where is the Vagina Gentium in your opinion? Africa or Scandinavia?
[17:21] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: I'm prone to saying Africa
[17:22] <FullMon-T> just a guess
[17:22] <dzb> How can I have gnome run on one screen and an tty on another screen in dual-sccren mode with a 7600GS
[17:22] <dzb> ?
[17:23] <MaxRandor> I have a HWU8DD high gain wireless usb adaptor, which I know worked out of the box on at least some Ubuntu 7.04 installations, I am running 7.10 and Though the adaptor is detected fine and shows full signal, when I select it in network manager it does not connect. This is annoying. How do I fix it.
[17:23] <dzb> MaxRandor: dfon't use the NetworkManager!
[17:23] <MaxRandor> why not?
[17:24] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: I'm getting another error.
[17:24] <dzb> it's buggy
[17:24] <MaxRandor> It works for the built in wireless card
[17:24] <Zasch> How do I search for files in Ubuntu?
[17:24] <tr> what does iwconfig say, MaxRandor?
[17:24] <MaxRandor> what should I use instead?
[17:24] <dzb> MaxRandor: /etc/network/interfaces
[17:24] <MaxRandor> sorry for small paste
[17:24] <MaxRandor> eth2      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"WANADOO-EA90"  Nickname:"zd1211"
[17:24] <MaxRandor>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:0E:9B:B3:01:1F
[17:24] <MaxRandor>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[17:24] <MaxRandor>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[17:24] <MaxRandor>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[17:24] <MaxRandor>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[17:25] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: Here's the new error: http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e6ceacc194.png
[17:25]  * MaxRandor runs away in fear at the mention of /etc/network/interfaces, I have cleaned up the mess I made last time I tried to use that, I don't want to go there again
[17:26] <guardian> hi, i have an old P4 that runs windows with an onboard promise 376 raid controller. the controller requires a windows driver to work. i installed ubuntu on this box as well. will linux software raid 1 somehow damage the raid 1 "constructed" by the promise 376 windows driver ??? for the moment i just disabled access to those discs
[17:26] <ravun> does anyone know if this video card can work with compiz: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[17:26] <MaxRandor> also I use many different wireless networks at different times so I need a program to manage it.
[17:26] <JC_Denton_> When using windows with vnc I use realvnc and realvnc server to connect to my client. Is there a vnc implementation for ubuntu that allows the server to contact the client?
[17:26] <sandr-> ravun, probably will, everything works with compiz haha
[17:26] <erUSUL> MaxRandor: Go to System>Admin>Net and disable roaming mode for your card (that's disabling nm) configure the card there
[17:27] <tr> iwconfig is quite handy, MaxRandor.
[17:27] <MaxRandor> but then I have to change it every time i use a different AP ?
[17:27] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, Apparently it doesn't like the backslash either
[17:27] <dzb> MaxRandor: Use Wicd then
[17:27] <ravun> I tried to run it but it says no whitelisted driver.  I tried SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz and my computer restarted :P
[17:27] <tr> MaxRandor: youll get used to it ;)
[17:27] <dr_willis> JC_Denton_:  in theory allthe various vnc clients should workj with teh various vncservers. They are supposed to auto-negoate the info.
[17:28] <tssom> is there a irc channel for playing games(wow) in ubuntu?
[17:28] <tssom> i got a alt+tab issue...
[17:28] <JC_Denton_> dr_willis: thanks
[17:28] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: tried it without, now I have 2 errors. How do I save in Nano editor?
[17:28] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, Okay sorry my mistake. backslash space does not work
[17:28] <JC_Denton_> But do you know of a vnc server that allows the user to connect it to a client
[17:28] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: I'm editing out the backslash by hand
[17:28] <MaxRandor> I will scare people off linux if I have to do that, there are several people who are begining to be interested If I have to configure wireless on the CLI they will run a mile. :-)
[17:28] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, The line should be
[17:29] <eckesicle> /dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\040Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0
[17:29] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, you save in nano by pressing Ctrl-O
[17:29] <ikonia> eckesicle: you need a space
[17:29] <ravun> there's a directory called vagina?
[17:29] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, That's O as in Omaha
[17:29] <eckesicle> ikonia, yes
[17:29] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> uuu
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <eckesicle> ikonia, it is \040 is it not
[17:30] <ikonia> eckesicle: I mean you need a space in your line
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> uu
[17:30] <ikonia> Co_pNdieM: please stop
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> uu
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <ikonia> !ops | Co_pNdieM flooding
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <ubotu> Co_pNdieM flooding: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[17:30] <Co_pNdieM> u
[17:30] <eckesicle> ikonia, what where?
[17:30] <MartianLobster> how can I see the set of all packageswhich have been "apt-get install" 'ed   on my computer?
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <shadowxp> I seem to be missing the Themes item in the System-> Preferences
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <evil_kevin> u
[17:30] <shadowxp> any idea where it is?
[17:30] <PriceChild> .cs kb Co_pNdieM
[17:30] <eckesicle> Thankyou tomaw, Seveas
[17:31] <leo_> hello...i have a little problem
[17:31] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: bash: /etc/fstab/dev/sda1: Not a directory
[17:31] <tr> who doesnt ;)
[17:31] <ikonia> FullMon-T: fstab is not a dir
[17:31] <leo_> :P
[17:31] <eckesicle> ikonia, what do you mean i need a space?
[17:31] <eckesicle> as in Vagina\040 Gentium ?
[17:32] <wols> FullMon-T: fstab is a file you edit
[17:32] <ikonia> eckesicle: after the escape chat, eg: /dev/test\ line rather than /dev/test\line
[17:32] <MaxRandor> dzb: Wicd is not in the repositories?
[17:32] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: bash: This is what caused the bash: /home/chuy# echo "/dev/sda1 /media/Vagina Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0" >> /etc/fstab/dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\040Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0
[17:32] <tr> anyone with a S3 SuperSavage GPU arround? *cry*
[17:32] <leo_> ok...so i have a problem with cpuspeed...in fedora i can use interactive startup to disable it...but in ubuntu ?
[17:32] <ikonia> tr: just ask the question
[17:33] <ravun> !GPU
[17:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:33] <Kal> leo_ Can you not disable it in BIOS?
[17:33] <eckesicle> ikonia, yes but
[17:33] <MartianLobster> did anyone see my question during the flood?  how can I see the set of all packageswhich have been "apt-get install" 'ed   on my computer?
[17:33] <eckesicle> ikonia, yes but \040 is the escape for the space character
[17:33] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, not to worry. you didn't press enter before but no problem
[17:33] <shadowxp> I can't seem to find the place where i install new GDM themes.. i've tried going to System->Preferences->Themes
[17:33] <leo_> no...cpuspeed is something from the os
[17:33] <ikonia> eckesicle: you need \ 040
[17:33] <shadowxp> but it's not there
[17:33] <ikonia> eckesicle: not \040
[17:34] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: I did "sudo su", then "echo /etc/fstab/dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\040Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0", then "exit"
[17:34] <eckesicle> ikonia, no. Are you sure.
[17:34] <ikonia> FullMon-T: please stop that
[17:34] <Kal> leo_, Aah, you're not talking about speedstep etc :(
[17:34] <ikonia> eckesicle: pretty certain
[17:34] <nikyta> hey
[17:34] <FullMon-T> ikonia: why
[17:34] <ikonia> FullMon-T: 1.) don't sudo su, 2.) fstab is NOT a dir as you've been told 3 times
[17:34] <nikyta> salut
[17:34] <ravun> shadwoxp: you have to download the themes then you go to system>preferences>appearance and install or drag/drop themes.
[17:34] <eckesicle> ikonia, i dont want Vagina 040 Gentium, but Vagina Gentium. \040 is same as space.
[17:34] <nikyta> personne me parle
[17:35] <ikonia> eckesicle: I'll leave you to it as I don't follow
[17:35] <DIL_> how can i tell which files in /var/log are "readable"
[17:35] <FullMon-T> ikonia: So than how do I correct the command?
[17:35] <ravun> shadowxp: you can get good themes from www.gnome-look.org
[17:35] <ikonia> FullMon-T: device files are in /dev
[17:35] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[17:35] <wols> FullMon-T: and never do such commands when you can't even type the correctly. if you actually did do it you'd got a broken, proably unbootable ubuntu
[17:35] <shadowxp> k thanks
[17:35] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, now you have the graphical text editor in front of you right?
[17:35] <leo_> ok...so in fedora when i have cpuspeed on it blockes and the same happens in ubuntu
[17:35] <leo_> and i think is because cpuspeed
[17:35] <dzb> MaxRandor: use this wiki http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Wicd?highlight=%28Verwaltung%29%7C%28LocoTeam%29%7C%28Benutzer%29%7C%28Galerie%29%7C%28Kategorie%29%7C%28Vorlage%29%7C%28Anwendertreffen%29%7C%28Wiki%29%7C%28Baustelle%29%7C%28%28Kategorie%7CNetzwerk%29%29 its german but you should be able to read the important stuff...
[17:36] <shadowxp> hmm
[17:36] <eckesicle> in this text editor I want you to remove any of the lines we might have added. Any line containing Vagina Gentium
[17:36] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: right
[17:36] <shadowxp> is that for the actual gnome desktop or the login screen?
[17:36] <eckesicle> then add this line:
[17:36] <DoXiD> Anone know a key-press counting application to ubuntu? that can count how many keys per hour you press? :p
[17:36] <eckesicle> /dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\040Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0
[17:36] <eckesicle> And save it
[17:36] <tr> ikonia, i did, how to enable direct rendering. kernel modules seems to be broken
[17:37] <ikonia> tr: I don't think dri / 3d acceleration is solid on the savage cards.
[17:37] <AliTarihi> Hi! everyone...
[17:37] <AliTarihi> I got a problem: I use ypops with evolution. But Whenever my system becomes idle, the ypops seems to stop functioning and I have to start it manually again.
[17:37] <ikonia> AliTarihi: what is ypops and where did it come from on your system
[17:38] <kbrooks> !info ypops
[17:38] <AliTarihi> ikonia: i did install it to use it for pop3.
[17:38] <ubotu> Package ypops does not exist in gutsy
[17:38] <Delvien> is there an app out there to run continuous code in a terminal ? trying to make a terminal look all techie and stuff... lol
[17:38] <ikonia> AliTarihi: where did you get it from
[17:38] <ravun> shadowxp: this is what you want for login /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[17:38] <ikonia> AliTarihi: I have not seen that package in the repo's
[17:38] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: Now it says that I am not priviledged to mount Vagina Gentium.
[17:38] <ikonia> FullMon-T: use sudo
[17:38] <Premium5pam> "McAfee said it's particularly troubling that the legality of terms included in the GNU/General Public License -- the most widely used open source license -- have yet to be tested in court. 'Use of GPL software could subject certain portions of our proprietary software to the GPL requirements, which may have adverse effects on our sales of the products incorporating any such software,'...
[17:38] <Premium5pam> ...McAfee said in the report filed last month with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Among other things, the GPL requires that manufacturers who in their products use software governed by the license distribute the software's source code to end users or customers. Some manufacturers have voiced concerns that the requirement could leave important security or copyright protection...
[17:38] <Premium5pam> ...features in their products open to tampering."
[17:38] <DoXiD> Anyone know a application similar to whatpulse?
[17:38] <DoXiD> for linux
[17:38] <ikonia> !offtopic | Premium5pam
[17:38] <ubotu> Premium5pam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:39] <leo_> anyone ? how do i stop cpuspeed at startup
[17:39] <ikonia> leo_: disable the startup script ?
[17:39] <leo_> no
[17:39] <MaxRandor> dzb: my german is terrible, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ is in english though :-)
[17:39] <leo_> i don't have it installed
[17:39] <leo_> :)
[17:40] <FullMon-T> ikonia: So I would type "sudo /dev/sda1 /media/Vagina\040Gentium ntsf-3g defaults,force 0 0" into the gedit of fstab?
[17:40] <AliTarihi> ikonia: I have apt-get it.
[17:40] <Kuropon> whats a good client for irc?
[17:40] <DoXiD> xChat
[17:40] <DoXiD> :)
[17:40] <Kuropon> using xchat and I hat it....
[17:40] <DoXiD> best there is
[17:40] <FullMon-T> ikonia: Now I'm back to square 1.
[17:41] <ikonia> FullMon-T: your not listening
[17:41] <StrawberryAngel> xchat works for me
[17:41] <DoXiD> whatpulse, any one have a good substitute for it?
[17:41] <FullMon-T> ikonia: I'm so confused.
[17:41] <Kuropon> xchat sucks for xdcc.. it's screwing up something
[17:41] <Ein_> hi... can someone give me link to download Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD?
[17:41] <nickrud> Kuropon, you might like irssi then, it's a terminal app but very capable
[17:42] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, Okay. If you are still confused here's what you can do
[17:42] <nickrud> Ein_, releases.ubuntu.com/7.10
[17:42] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, Type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[17:42] <Kuropon> nickrud, I pretty bad with linux >> is it easy to use
[17:42] <dzb> MaxRandor: well use that then, hf u gl!
[17:42] <leo_> I have a ubuntu 7.10 cd...when i boot from it ..the computer freezes and i think cpuspeed it the one causing that so...can someone tell me how i can stop the script before booting
[17:42] <leo_> ?
[17:42] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, Add a # before the line we added (we will comment it out)
[17:42] <nickrud> Kuropon, well, you do have to memorize a lot of commands
[17:42] <eckesicle> FullMon-T, then follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-c067eb7e3cd4107cc08cdf30a9e1aed8adb02971
[17:42] <Kuropon> nickrud,  =/
[17:43] <Kuropon> nickrud,  define cmds
[17:43] <debiani386> hi all
[17:43] <nickrud> Kuropon, slash commands, no buttons or menus
[17:43] <flyingfree> hello all
[17:43] <debiani386> hi flyingfree
[17:43] <flyingfree> encountering some problems with wine as a new user
[17:43] <flyingfree> looking for some help
[17:43] <flyingfree> running xubuntu
[17:44] <debiani386> whats wine doing flying?
[17:44] <debiani386> is it loading atleast?
[17:44] <flyingfree> 192 MB ram pII 500 mHZ
[17:44] <debiani386> like can you get into wine cfg or winefile ?
[17:44] <leo_> heeiiii..someone ? :(
[17:45] <debiani386> can anybody see me?
[17:45] <GekkoAce> yes
[17:45] <bqmassey> how the hell do i stop ubuntu from automatically connecting to a particular wifi router?
[17:45]  * nickrud looks away from debian these days
[17:45] <bqmassey> .. i want it to connect to a specific one, but it always defaults to the one i dont want
[17:45] <flyingfree> hello debaini386
[17:45] <debiani386> <<my version of gaim seems a bit glitchy :(
[17:45] <debiani386> . o (using the gaim from the repo)
[17:46] <nickrud> debiani386, gaim is useless for irc , try a better client
[17:46] <debiani386> flying >> can you atleast get into winefile?
[17:46] <GekkoAce> Gaim stinks. If you can get it, use mIRC
[17:46] <debiani386> what is a good irc client nick?
[17:46] <debiani386> ive used konversation for a long time
[17:46] <debiani386> and gaim
[17:46] <debiani386> but nothing else
[17:46] <bqmassey> how the hell do i stop ubuntu from automatically connecting to a particular wifi router?
[17:46] <bqmassey> .. i want it to connect to a specific one, but it always defaults to the one i dont want
[17:47] <asdf_12> hi all
[17:47] <leo_> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW CAN I DISABLE A PROCESS BEFORE INSTALLING?
[17:47] <debiani386> bq >> what i used to do ws disable the wireless network in ubuntu's network manager, then use wlassistant
[17:47] <debiani386> to connect to teh network
[17:47] <debiani386> havent had one problem yet
[17:47] <redspike> Hi all, i have a problem with 6.0.6 LTS when i mount my fileserver its something wird with the premissions :(  if i open i file with vi and edit it it says i dont have write access but if i force with :wq! it writs it, i dint have this problem with 7.10 .. any one know what it can be?
[17:47] <flyingfree> did I come in in the midfdle of one of those new server jumps?
[17:47] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: Guide failed, still getting the original error message.
[17:48] <bqmassey> i'll try that, thanks debiani386
[17:48] <nickrud> leo_, you don't have to yell, if someone knows the answer they will say so
[17:48] <flyingfree> lookng for a little help with wine on an xubuntu dessktop with 196 ram 500 mhz
[17:48] <debiani386> bq >> if that doesnt work, tell ubuntus wireless network manager to connect to some random network like "aa" or someting then use wlasistant to get onto the router
[17:48] <leo_> i am not yelling...had a brick on my shift key
[17:48] <leo_> :)
[17:48] <Synx_hm> What ever i place in the input devices 'synaptic touchpad' section of my xorg.conf is not being used, ive tried to turn on VertTwoFingerScroll and even tried turning off VertEdgeScroll but nothing is happening
[17:48] <nickrud> leo_, and have you run the disk check utility on the startup screen
[17:49] <debiani386> i dont like ubuntus wireless manager, it seems extremely glitchy
[17:49] <naknomik> I want to reset all the desktop configuration for a user to default state without losing any data in the home directory, how do I do it?
[17:49] <bqmassey> debiani386:  yeah...  and it's far too basic if you ask me
[17:49] <GekkoAce> Ok, everyone else is just throwing out their questions so here is my question: Last time I installed Ubunto there wasn't support for the wireless cards that come pre-installed on HP notebooks. Have they added that support yet?
[17:49] <leo_> no...has no connection with what i wanna do
[17:49] <BeBoo> Can anyone help me with a yaboot issue with my PowerMac G5? I installed it and when it restarted, it said it was loading stage 2 and it flashes the mac symbol and a question mark.
[17:49] <debiani386> gekko >> have you tried ndiswrapper?
[17:50] <nickrud> naknomik, log out, go to alt-ctl-f1 , log in, sudo killall gconf2-d , rm -r  ~/.gconf  ctl-alt-f7 , log back in
[17:50] <Peaker> Will a circular reference of hardlinks leak, as it uses refcounts?
[17:50] <Synx_hm> GekkoAce: if its an IPW2200 yes, im am on my HP dv4000 right now via wifi
[17:50] <flyingfree> I tired wine and wine cfg and both gave me an error about not being able to create the wine directory
[17:50] <debiani386> gekko >> since hp also uses hpux, they probably have a unix module somewhere on their site
[17:50] <GekkoAce> no, I have not installed ubunto in a while. I really liked it, but I needed wifi. it was a year or more ago
[17:50] <flyingfree> wine is not listed anywhere in the applications tab of the taskbar
[17:50] <naknomik> nickrud: that will take care of all gnome application defaults too?
[17:50] <debiani386> fly >> are you running it as regular user or as sudo?
[17:50] <flyingfree> devbian I can
[17:50] <debiani386> bbl,, im gonna change my client
[17:50] <FullMon-T> eckesicle: getting a new error message: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Vagina040Gentium: No such file or directory
[17:51] <flyingfree> dont know yet
[17:51] <flyingfree> debian
[17:51] <Synx_hm> GekkoAce: boot up the live cd and see if it works, if not then ask back in here what special is needed, but for me mine worked right out of the box, (but yes a year or so ago IPW2200 was a pain in the butt to get working for me in gentoo)
[17:51] <robdeman> folks I manually insatlled postfix and dovecot -- how can I setup mail aliases and stuff?
[17:51] <naknomik> nickrud: I also have some KDE packages installed, how do I take care of them?
[17:51] <chahibi> I need to quickly help a friend
[17:51] <flyingfree> debian I dont know if I can get into wine file but I can see you
[17:51] <nickrud> naknomik, nearly everything, if you really want to drop all (like rhythmbox's database, any menu's you modified, etc)  rm .local .config .gnome2 .gnome .gnome2_private
[17:51] <lassesandberg43> im trying to set up a key binding in compizconfig settings manager to mousebutton 1 and 2 at same time.. but it wont accept that? it takes "Button1", "<Control>Button1". but it wont take both Button1 and 2 in same line ?
[17:51] <chahibi> I need the command to launch the language switcher
[17:52] <chahibi> Can anyone give me the command name to launch the language switcher?
[17:52] <NelsonUWP> can someone tell me the best way to dual boot xp and gutsy?
[17:52] <nickrud> naknomik, don't know kde, you can ask on #kubuntu for that
[17:52] <NelsonUWP> can I do it by installing gutsy and then creating a partition?
[17:52] <Javid> !install > NelsonUWP
[17:52] <naknomik> nickrud: thanks.
[17:52] <madmike> chahibi, Gnome or KDE?
[17:52] <FullMon-T> ikonia: fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Vagina040Gentium: No such file or directory
[17:52] <chahibi> madmike: Gnome
[17:52] <NelsonUWP> !install
[17:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:52] <flyingfree> debian winefile returns that the specified directory is not availaiable and then refers to a windows directory
[17:53] <leo_> !cpuspeed
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpuspeed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:53] <Flannel> redspike: I imagine the file still isn't being written with :wq! (unless you've verified).  vim will just quit regardless of writing or not with the exclamation point.  And we'll need more information on the fileserver setup and stuff to diagnose properly
[17:53] <leo_> !startup
[17:53] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[17:53] <debian> bacj
[17:53] <L> connect #ubuntu-ro
[17:53] <debian> back**
[17:53] <debian> << using konversation
[17:54] <flyingfree> regular
[17:54] <figgysaur> eh...sorry
[17:54] <flyingfree> ebian
[17:54] <madmike> chahibi, Switching Language... meaing switching keyboard layout?
[17:54] <master_alvaro> http://tnij.com/clickhere43p0rn
[17:54] <debian> flying >> are you trying to run wine as a regular user?
[17:54] <master_alvaro> can you check this?
[17:54] <flyingfree> with sudo it says that the /.wine directory is not owned by me
[17:55] <flyingfree> I created it manually on my own
[17:55] <debian> yah try it w/o sudo
[17:55] <scguy318> why are you using sudo with wine?
[17:55] <BeBoo> Can anyone help me with a yaboot issue with my PowerMac G5? I installed it and when it restarted, it said it was loading stage 2 and it flashes the mac symbol and a question mark.
[17:55] <redspike> Flannel: works frommy other server when i mount the same way, only diffrent are thet i use 6.06 on that server that dosent work
[17:55] <redspike> Flannel: no when i use :wq! its write the file
[17:55] <scguy318> BeBoo, your question is unfortunately off-topic for this channel
[17:55] <redspike> Flannel: i have premissions to create and delte files
[17:55] <chahibi> madmike: the UI language
[17:55] <flyingfree> using fiesty
[17:55] <flyingfree> btw
[17:56] <debian> yah
[17:56] <scguy318> flyingfree, who owns ~/.wine?
[17:56] <redspike> Flannel: i can delete a file but ger errors when i try to edit them:(
[17:56] <debian> try it w/o sudo
[17:56] <BeBoo> scguy318: how is it offtopic? It's ubuntu
[17:56] <debian> flyuing^^
[17:56] <redspike> Flannel: if i not have created them myself
[17:56] <scguy318> BeBoo: oh ooops! my apologies :)
[17:56] <scguy318> BeBoo: my eyes were on the wrong channel
[17:56] <pete1> anyone got HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copyer ?
[17:56] <gian> Salve, non sono pratico di chat.Comunque volevo chiedere informazioni su ifconfig -a ma cercavo il canale italianodi ubuntu.Sapete come si chiama?
[17:57] <bqmassey> i really want a rotating wifi dish antenna... one that will spin around and scan for wifi routers and then lock on to one when i select it
[17:57] <flyingfree> debian yes I am
[17:57] <madmike> chahibi, do you mean this dialog? "gksu /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector" (without the ")?
[17:57] <debian> bq >> that would be soo cool
[17:57] <debian> bq >> are those things really powerful?
[17:57] <flyingfree> w/O sudo I get the cannot access specified directory and it refers to a windows directory
[17:57] <debian> bq >> do they get really good range
[17:57] <eckesicle_> I stuck my foot in my ethernet cable and ripped it out of the socket O_o
[17:57] <debian> lol eck
[17:57] <bqmassey> debian:  never seen one.. want to invent one
[17:58] <debian> bq >. ah nice idea :)
[17:58] <debian> sure us hackers would love it :P
[17:58] <flyingfree> okay debian I will try it wo sudo do I use just wine to access the program or do I need an executable to work on?
[17:58] <flyingfree> is there a wine gui?
[17:58] <debian> flying >> when you run wine w/o sudo, are you trying to access another drive or partition?
[17:58] <eckesicle_> Hey, how well does win xp run on vmware? Is there a big performance hit?
[17:58] <debian> cause wine has its windows directory in yoru home folder
[17:59] <mac_jamie> Hello everyone! I have a macbook pro running gutsy, and somehow the apple key, AKA the super key is no longer mapped properly. Not sure what I did. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:59] <madmike> eckesicle, the slowdown is hardly noticable on vbox.. shoudl be similar on VMware
[17:59] <flyingfree> debian the command wine reutrns the little three line blurb on comand line usage of wine
[17:59] <scguy318> flyingfree: not really a GUI, you do wine nameofexe.exe
[17:59] <madmike> eckesicle, you should hav enohg RAM though
[17:59] <flyingfree> not that I am aware of the directory wiht the prgoram I wnat is on my desktop
[18:00] <eckesicle_> madmike, I have 4G so way enough.
[18:00] <debian> flying >> dont type "wine" unless you want to execute an exe file, ex "wine something.exe"
[18:00] <debian> if you dont know or dont want to use that command, use winefile
[18:00] <ijn> hi all
[18:00] <madmike> eckesicle, the other thing yu should know that you can't use your 3D stuff on it
[18:00] <debian> hi ijn
[18:00] <eckesicle_> madmike, and 3daccel?
[18:00] <flyingfree> okay
[18:00] <eckesicle_> oic.
[18:00] <ijn> is there anyone to help with wicd problems
[18:00] <lassesandberg43> can someone help me? under preferences > appreances > desktopeffects > custom for compiz, im trying to setup a hotkey to be mouse button 1 and 2 at same time.. but it wont accept any combination that has them both in it, i had it like that once, but i dont know what happend, can anyone tell me how and why?
[18:01] <eckesicle_> I was hoping to run 3dsmax. guess dual boot is the way to go still then
[18:01] <eckesicle_> madmike, but video and sound works fine?
[18:01] <ijn> help needed with WICD please...
[18:01] <xamox> if I want to disable compiz, what is the easy way in gusty?
[18:01] <madmike> eckesicle, "they" seem to be working on adding 3D-Support... but they are doing this since month
[18:01] <madmike> eckesicle, if it works under Linux, it will work under windows
[18:02] <adrenaline_> anione know ubuntu.es irc server?
[18:02] <ijn> no one can help with WICD problems
[18:02] <Spl33n> My laptop's fan starts spinning every 30 seconds and then keeps spinning for 10 seconds (on Ubuntu) and then goes off  - Is this normal?
[18:03] <ikonia> Spl33n: check the temps
[18:03] <ijn> ok
[18:03] <debian> spleen, unless it doess something different on another os, yes its normal
[18:03] <ikonia> ijn: why don't you ask the question
[18:03] <ijn> ok
[18:03] <debian> spleen>. ofcoarse you should check your laptop tempurature
[18:03] <Spl33n> ikonia: acpi -b gives me 50 degrees C? What do you think?
[18:03] <eckesicle_> !anyone | ijn
[18:03] <ubotu> ijn: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:04] <debian> spleen >> as ubuntu may be glithcing
[18:04] <madmike> ijn, what does WICD stand for?
[18:04] <debian> glitching**
[18:04] <ikonia> Spl33n: is that normal for your laptop
[18:04] <Oli``> Spl33n: whack a temperature monitor on your panel (right click panel > add > drag on a temperature sensor)
[18:04] <ijn> can't connect to my wirelees protected wpa connection via wicd
[18:04] <ijn> it's like NM
[18:04] <ijn> network manager
[18:04] <eckesicle_> Don't EVER buy a Snicker Almond. Terrible. Just terrible
[18:05] <ikonia> ijn: wicd doesn't appear to be in the ubuntu repo's
[18:05] <eckesicle_> They contain nuts the size of well nuts
[18:05] <madmike> ijn, just a guess... did you try to switch on SID Broadcast? Sometimes this helps
[18:05] <Spl33n> Oli``: ok I'll try that, ikonia: I am not sure if 50C is normal?
[18:05] <ijn> what is sid broadkast
[18:05] <ijn> ?
[18:05] <ikonia> ijn: broadcase your network name
[18:05] <ikonia> ijn: wicd doesn't appear to be in the ubuntu repo's where did you get it
[18:05] <madmike> its an potion on your router. This will announce to Wifi adapters that there is a router to connect to
[18:06] <ijn> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Wicd
[18:06] <madmike> potion -> option
[18:06] <debian> potion =)) rofl
[18:06] <ijn> it's a very fast wireless and wired manager
[18:06] <madmike> :))
[18:06] <guardian> hi, i have an old P4 that runs windows with an onboard promise 376 raid controller. the controller requires a windows driver to work. i installed ubuntu on this box as well. will linux software raid 1 somehow damage the raid 1 "constructed" by the promise 376 windows driver ??? for the moment i just disabled access to those discs
[18:07] <ijn> I installed it but I works only
[18:07] <Eyemean> hi would there be much of a perfomance difference between a 1.6GHz chip and a 2.4gHz chip?
[18:07] <ijn> on my nebghours wireless
[18:07] <toni_> can i resize a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[18:07] <ikonia> guardian: fakeraid is not a wise choice on any linux platform
[18:07] <eckesicle_> Spl33n, i think there was a bug on this. The fix was called something like 99 hdd spin.sh
[18:07] <ijn> which is not protected
[18:07] <eckesicle_> let me see if i can find it.
[18:07] <ikonia> guardian: anything you do to that disk in windows will cause issues for the windows fake raid
[18:07] <ijn> so no pass
[18:07] <chazco> Why does Gusty install nearly 150 updates after installation? Is there a way to get an updated CD?
[18:07] <guardian> ikonia: even for RAID 1 ?
[18:07] <ikonia> ijn: I don't understand where you got wicd from as it's not in the repo
[18:08] <ikonia> guardian: even for raid 1
[18:08] <sandr-> !virtualdub
[18:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualdub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:08] <guardian> :/
[18:08] <eckesicle_> Does this seem like it: https://launchpad.net/bug59695.html
[18:08] <sandr-> Anyone know something that can replace virtualdub?
[18:08] <sayers> My nvidia card worked with my old computer and works here except it will not use the NVIDIA driver
[18:08] <ijn> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[18:08] <guardian> however on my windows, it's also software raid ... i doubt the promise controller accelerates or does anything useful
[18:08] <sandr-> I want to cut/edit re-encode video
[18:08] <ikonia> ijn: then this is nothing to do with ubuntu support as it's not an ubuntu packaged/supported product
[18:08] <phosphoricx> How can figure out which program is using module snd_ice1724 and stopping me from removing it with error "ERROR: Module snd_ice1724 is in use?"
[18:08] <madmike> sandr-, virtualdub does a lot of things.. what are you trying to do with the replacement?
[18:09] <Yodude> can someone help me install ubuntu on an old laptop ?
[18:09] <ikonia> phosphoricx: your sound card
[18:09] <ikonia> Yodude: if you ask a question, maybe
[18:09] <sandr-> reencode video, take fragments from a big video and thus create new video ..;
[18:09] <Spl33n> eckesicle_: Do you mean the laptop cooling fan spinning or of hard drive spinning?
[18:09] <flyingfree> sorry all had a pro lem with the t key on my keyboard for a second there
[18:10] <phosphoricx> ikonia: how do I stop by sound card from using snd_ice1724 so I can unload/reload it?
[18:10] <ijn> ok for wicd
[18:10] <Ayabara> I run Ubuntu Gutsy with Compiz, and from time to time my laptop freezes _totally_. I have to restart using the power button. Anyone heard of something similar?
[18:10] <madmike> sandr-, I invested a lot of time into mencoder... it is pretty powerfull and sometimes the code has regressions from time to time, but for me it was worth it... i reencoded a lot of my DVD-Collection into a Dreamcast acceptable format
[18:10] <ikonia> phosphoricx: while alsa is running I doubt you'll be able to
[18:10] <guardian> ikonia: thx for the reply
[18:10] <bullgard4> Why does Synaptic not provide a linux-phc-0.3 (Processor Hardware Control) package? https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=161063
[18:10] <ijn> so what is the best network manager for wireless conection
[18:10] <debian> aya >> i have a similar problem, however instead of my computer freezing, it just boots me out of hte x server
[18:11] <sandr-> Well to be very practical: I have this episode of southpark and I just want to cut come cool fragments out of it ;)
[18:11] <debian> i think its a bug with either you rcard or xgl
[18:11] <eckesicle_> Spl33n, oh was it the fan? sorry thought it was harddrive
[18:11] <debian> cause it used to do that on some of the other laptops (toshiba satolite) that ive used ubu on
[18:11] <ijn> my network-manager is not a choice
[18:11] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[18:11] <madmike> sandr-, there a better options to edit films... hmm
[18:11] <Yodude> ikonia: ok the laptop is a 500Mhz 192 Mb of ram pc. it has no cdrom drive, the BIOS is locked, no floppy drive, just 1 USB hub, how can i i install ? i tried putting the ubuntu iso contents on a usb, installing wubi from it and then booting it like wubi-cdboot does, but it's so slow to the degree of being unworkable, what do you suggest ?
[18:11] <Spl33n> eckesicle_: No prob ;)
[18:11] <ijn> can u tell what to try
[18:11] <ezquerro> i'm having problems with video playing in ubuntu
[18:11] <flyingfree> okay so working on a wine problem
[18:12] <ezquerro> i have uninstalled the xgl driver and compiz
[18:12] <phosphoricx> ikonia: I did "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop", doesn't that stop ALSA?
[18:12] <flyingfree> where do I ned to put a program that I wnat to execute in wine
[18:12] <ikonia> Yodude: I wouldn't bother installing onto that kit
[18:12] <ikonia> phosphoricx: that will stop alsa service yes
[18:12] <ezquerro> and now xine doesn't work and totem with gstream makes the videos look green and blue
[18:12] <Yodude> ikonia: why ? isn't it worth the trouble ?
[18:12] <madmike> sandr-, mencoder is good for the encoding part
[18:12] <ezquerro> i have an ati x1400
[18:12] <jgoo> hey all, I have blender 2.44, from gutsy repo - I want to upgrade to 2.45 - I read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657257
[18:12] <ikonia> Yodude: 1.) your install methods are a lot of effort 2.) the kit is old and lacking ram
[18:12] <jgoo> but, is there a more sane way? to update to 2.45 ?
[18:13] <ijn> better alternative for network-manager around????
[18:13] <ikonia> jgoo: wait for ubuntu to update the package
[18:13] <Spl33n> Oli``: I could not find a temperature sensors among my Gnome Panel applets? Any other suggestions?
[18:13] <Yodude> ikonia: i know but it is already running xp let's say acceptably, so linux should be flying on it
[18:13] <AMD_fan> !ping
[18:13] <ubotu> pong
[18:13] <ijn> any idea???
[18:13] <ikonia> Yodude: no - that's not how it works.
[18:13] <jgoo> ikonia: ok *waits*. should I hold my breath?
[18:13] <k0rnz> gdbm fatal: lseek error when trying to do "wine PokerStarsinstall.exe"  any ideas?
[18:13] <jgoo> ;-) well, I want to update it now, i will try what was on the forum post
[18:13] <ikonia> jgoo: don't know, contact the package maintainer and ask
[18:13] <Tinaqueen> hey guys
[18:13] <AMD_fan> !ping me
[18:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:13] <Yodude> ikonia: so there's n hope for it ?
[18:13] <phosphoricx> ikonia: I stopped ALSA, but I still can not remove the module
[18:13] <John_R> dude, those specs will run video
[18:14] <ikonia> Yodude: it's not worth the effort
[18:14] <ijn> better alternative for network-manager around????
[18:14] <ikonia> phosphoricx: look for other sound related processes/applications
[18:14] <John_R> do yourself a favor and ditch evolution and everything related to it. will speed the box up a little
[18:14] <ikonia> !repeat | ijn
[18:14] <ubotu> ijn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:14] <ijn> any idea???
[18:14] <flyingfree> how do I get wine to create all of its directories it ness etc?
[18:14] <flyingfree> It did not do it pon install
[18:14] <John_R> video ran fine under ubuntu on this box when it was a 550 with 256 megs of ram
[18:14] <d0lph1nK1ng> can i virtually and natively boot Ubuntu from another partition on the same disk?
[18:14] <flyingfree> man O man i need to improve that typing and I am watching the keyboard to boot
[18:14] <Yodude> ikonia: i accept putting up the effot but i need to know that it works, i fear that i would work so much and ubuntu would not work on it afterall
[18:14] <osfameron> hmmm, cupsys-driver-gutenprint  doesn't seem to exist in gutsy (was in edgy though)
[18:15] <ikonia> Yodude: ubuntu will boot if you went through all the hassle of getting it installed
[18:15] <John_R> yodude: go for it. video will work on it
[18:15] <ikonia> Yodude: how well it would work is your call
[18:15] <ijn> ok thanks:)
[18:15] <ikonia> John_R: he has 192 meg of ram.
[18:15] <vishal> Hi, Need to help with my microphone, I'm getting sound out of it, but when i try to record it wont record
[18:15] <John_R> and?
[18:15] <osfameron> or libgimpprint1
[18:15] <Yodude> John_R: what install method do you suggest ?
[18:15] <ikonia> John_R: minimum for ubuntu is 128 - he's only just above the minimium
[18:15] <John_R> i have 256 megs on this box and there is usually 80 to 100 megs free according to top
[18:16] <ikonia> John_R: he has no reasonable install method
[18:16] <John_R> yodude: alternate text install or network install
[18:16] <Yodude> ikonia: the thing is that its USB hub is usb 1.0 it's so slow that the usb needs like 30 minutes to boot
[18:16] <UltraNav> anyone observed the problem that clamscan consumes up to 99% cpu time one a mailserver ? - It happend after the last update a few days ago on my ubuntu 7.04 server... Any ideas ?
[18:16] <ikonia> John_R: he has no cdrom. His card won't support pxe boot
[18:16] <Yodude> John_R: i already have the ubuntu iso ( desktop ), can't i use that ?
[18:16] <ikonia> Yodude: as I said it's not worth all the effort. It's a wasting time
[18:16] <osfameron> do I just install "gutenprint" instead ?
[18:17] <John_R> no cdrom?
[18:17] <ikonia> Yodude: installer likes 256 - alternative is better as there are no gui requirments
[18:17] <vishal> Does any one have any clue on my sound problem?
[18:18] <John_R> well, yodude if you can find a way to use the install cd with your machine, it will work. wideo will work too. you wont be able to do anything else while video plays or it will skip, but youtube etc will work
[18:18] <flyingfree> hello again
[18:18] <flyingfree> still working on that iwne prboem
[18:18] <mete_> UltraNav: spam/virus filter?
[18:18] <flyingfree> sorry wine problem
[18:18] <eckesicle_> vishal: repeat it
[18:18] <d0lph1nK1ng> can i virtually and natively boot Ubuntu from another partition on the same disk?
[18:18] <John_R> take a cd out of another box and put it in that one or something
[18:18] <chazco> Why does Gusty install nearly 150 updates after installation? Is there a way to get an updated CD?
[18:18] <vishal> eckesicle_: Hi, Need to help with my microphone, I'm getting sound out of it, but when i try to record it wont record
[18:18] <ikonia> John_R: it's a laptop
[18:18] <flyingfree> wine did not create the wine directory on install
[18:18] <ikonia> John_R: it's not worth all the effort of installing
[18:18] <John_R> ah, gotcha
[18:18] <John_R> hhahaha thats a pickle
[18:18] <Filled-Void> Anyone who has Conky running who could help me? I think I have some kind of weird font problem
[18:19] <UltraNav> mete_: what do you mean ?
[18:19] <John_R> had a similar problem with an old compaq 166, the bios wouldnt allow booting from cdrom and there was no floppy
[18:19] <John_R> ended up parting it out on ebay
[18:19] <mete_> UltraNav: do you've a virus or spam scanning software on your mailserver?
[18:19] <flyingfree> when I cd to a directorty that has an exe in it and then type 'wine  setup.exe it gives me a list of directioreis that are not accessbile most winth a windows component to them
[18:19] <John_R> yodude: what is the exact model of the laptop? i have some old laptop cdroms laying around
[18:19] <haymaker> what should i use for a compiz decorator?
[18:19] <UltraNav> mete_: using postfix/mailscanner/clamav
[18:19] <eckesicle_> vishal, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:20] <vishal> eckesicle_: Gutsy, sorry brb
[18:20] <Yodude> John_R: acer travelmate 340t ( actually 341T but that's kinda the same )
[18:20] <mete_> UltraNav: I only know, that virus/spam-scnaners on windows have many cpu issues ;) on linux I don't know :(
[18:20] <eckesicle_> vishal, It sounds as if you have capture muted. You can unmute it with alsamixer. Just type alsamixer in a terminal window
[18:20] <Yodude> John_R: i can't find a good way to use the desktop iso since there is no cdrom or floppy
[18:21] <John_R> uh yeah thats sort of bad
[18:21] <Yodude> John_R: i've tried to make a bootable USB install media, but it didn't work, the usb won't boot at any machine i don't know why
[18:21] <John_R> wonder if vmware server would run on those specs
[18:21] <John_R> hheheh
[18:21] <John_R> you can get ubuntu into 128 megs
[18:21] <flyingfree> kopete seems to bbe laggin a lot more then gaim did on IRC
[18:21] <John_R> that would leave a bare minimum for XP
[18:21] <John_R> yodude: you got xp on it now?
[18:22] <eckesicle_> vishal, maybe you can also change it with gnome-volume-control
[18:22] <flyingfree> anyways till loking for helkp with a wine setup problem
[18:22] <flyingfree> is there a wine channel?
[18:22] <flyingfree> sec
[18:22] <Yodude> John_R: yes i can boot it and work with it just fine
[18:22] <IngenAning> Are there key bindings to switch workspaces?
[18:22] <eckesicle_> flyingfree, #winehq
[18:22] <leo_> how do i disable powernowd before install ?
[18:22] <John_R> yodude: ok, jeep xp on it then. dont want to leave a diskless machine in an unbootable state
[18:22] <nAgoHaK> Hi! Please, help me. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50878/ && http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50879/
[18:22] <John_R> yodude: go to vmware.com and get a copy of vmware server and a few free licenses
[18:22] <eckesicle_> IngenAning, ctrl-alt-vänster och ctrl-alt-höger
[18:23] <John_R> yodude: then you can run ubuntu in a virtual machine and have both on the machine
[18:23] <Yodude> John_R: and then what ?
[18:23] <IngenAning> eckesicle_: tack :)
[18:23] <eckesicle_> np
[18:23] <John_R> and then do whatever you want
[18:23] <medouk> En
[18:23] <John_R> you will have xp on the box
[18:23] <John_R> and ubuntu on the box
[18:23] <Arelis_> Hi all. I installed KDE. Now my menus are REALLY, REALLY messy. How do i remove all the GNOME apps from the menu?
[18:23] <John_R> both running at the same time
[18:23] <Arelis_> err, wrong channel
[18:23] <Arelis_> sorry
[18:24] <ikonia> John_R: he's going to run a VM on a box with 192 meg of ram and 600 mhz cpu
[18:24] <ikonia> John_R: I think not
[18:24] <John_R> yep
[18:24] <IngenAning> eckesicle: hm.. det gör inte
[18:24] <vishal> eckesicle: sorry Im back, my sister just got a picture of the upcoming ford fiesta, looks pretty sweet, oh and i check all that its not muted
[18:24] <John_R> i think so. i am the king of old hardware, and it will work
[18:24] <flyingfree> looking for help with wine
[18:24] <ikonia> John_R: I disagree
[18:24] <flyingfree> is this the right channel?
[18:24] <nAgoHaK> Hi! Please, help me. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50878/ && http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50879/
[18:24] <Yodude> John_R: i know it's virtualization, but i don't want a virtual ubuntu i want a real install cuz the machine's already slow it won't work well with virtualizers
[18:24] <John_R> i got ubuntu onto my 4 year old's laptop, it is a p150 with 80 megs of ram
[18:24] <John_R> and it works usable
[18:24] <astro76> ikonia, you're right, that's insane
[18:24] <chazco> !lamp
[18:24] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[18:25] <ikonia> John_R: but your not running an OS, then a VM, then another OS on that laptop
[18:25] <ikonia> astro76: I know
[18:25] <John_R> yodude: if you want everything for nothing, right now, im afraid i cant help you
[18:25] <John_R> but vmware is free, and it is a workable way to get ubuntu onto that box
[18:25] <eckesicle> IngenAning, Okay. I thought it was default. Are you running compiz or not?
[18:25] <astro76> it's not workable :p
[18:25] <John_R> and with vmware tools installed, latency will be almost 0
[18:25] <eckesicle> vishal: np.
[18:25] <Yodude> John_R: i know but in a virtual machine on an already slow machne it would be for nothing
[18:25] <IngenAning> eckesicle: never mind, i got it. do you know how to change it? so i can have it custom?
[18:25] <vishal> eckesicle: I've just the volume control and alsa mixer and none of it is muted and everything is maxed out
[18:26] <randorfer> nAgoHaK if you actually ask a question you might get a response, saying "help me" dosn't illict much from most people
[18:26] <ikonia> http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/intro_hostreq_ws.html
[18:26] <vishal> eckesicle: checked**
[18:26] <John_R> ok, so sell it on ebay and buy a faster macine
[18:26] <ikonia> Yodude: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/intro_hostreq_ws.html read this before wasting any time trying to run VM's on it
[18:26] <flyingfree> I can't seem to get wine working can I get some help?
[18:26] <eckesicle> vishal, not disabled?
[18:26] <eckesicle> vishal, muted*
[18:26] <eckesicle> IngenAning, yes. Are you running compiz?
[18:26] <vishal> eckesicle: nop, i turned on mic boost, and its loud and clear when i speak into the mic
[18:26] <toni_> flyingfree,  try asking
[18:27] <randorfer> flyingfree /join #wine
[18:27] <John_R> i run xp in a vm just fine on this box
[18:27] <John_R> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686] distro[Debian 4.0] cpu[1 x Celeron (Coppermine) @ 702MHz] mem[Physical : 250MB, 46.9% free] disk[Total : 8.72GB, 10.80% Free] video[S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV] sound[]
[18:27] <ikonia> John_R: once again - you have more ram
[18:27] <Yodude> ikonia: i would rather avoid using virtualization: UNLESS i can get ubuntu to transfer after that to a real machine
[18:27] <John_R> what, 64 megs more? big woop
[18:27] <eckesicle> IngenAning, if you have 3d effects enabled you can change it in System->Inställningar->Utseende
[18:27] <vishal> eckesicle: what weried is its actually got a sort of double volume control, AMic makes it go really load and when that is low/muted i can still hear it but Mic takes over from there
[18:27] <eckesicle> (System->Preferences->Appearance
[18:27] <John_R> you can get a 128 meg install of ubuntu into a vm on that box and leave 64 megs for xp
[18:27] <ikonia> Yodude: bottom line, that laptop is not a good system to use, even less to use with virualisation, you can accept that or disagree
[18:28] <John_R> xp runs in 64 megs
[18:28] <John_R> if you want to make the hardware work for you, then do it. otherwise dont
[18:28] <eckesicle> vishal, yes one is for input that is throughput to speakers, the other for capture
[18:28] <Yodude> ikonia: no i totally accept that, i was just hoping that that i could revive it with linux
[18:28] <Generic> John_R, you using virtualbox or vmware?
[18:28] <John_R> vmware
[18:28] <randorfer> Yodude, what are you trying to do?  revive an old laptop?
[18:28] <ikonia> Yodude: you can "install" but it's not worth the effort due to your hardware, and it's not going to be worth it once it's running
[18:29] <John_R> the laptop has no cdrom and he says the usb is slow
[18:29] <Generic> ah
[18:29] <Yodude> randorfer: yeah
[18:29] <vishal> eckesicle: both maxed out but the sound recorder still doesnt record
[18:29] <SchnorrerAlena_1> what is 'ubnu'??
[18:29] <John_R> do it to see if you can. experience is experience
[18:29] <eckesicle> Yodude, I would recommend running xubuntu over ubuntu if you have limited hardware
[18:29] <SchnorrerAlena_1> *ubnutu
[18:29] <Yodude> ikonia: yes but when i saw the xp performance, it's actually VERY acceptable, you can run a lot of stuff on it
[18:29] <ikonia> SchnorrerAlena_1: a linux distribution
[18:29] <eckesicle> vishal, does the sound recorder use alsa?
[18:29] <randorfer> Yodude, look for a distro that uses something like fluxbox / openbox / xfce4
[18:29] <John_R> good call, eckesicle
[18:29] <ikonia> Yodude: thats your call then. Do what you please.
[18:29] <randorfer> Yodude, damn small comes to mind
[18:29] <vishal> eckesicle: I guess, its the one packed with gutsy
[18:30] <flyingfree> thanks eckesicle
[18:30] <isaacj87> hi, can anyone tell me if there's any benefit using the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver over the xserver-xorg-video-i810??
[18:30] <MetzrKr> how to split a rar file under ubuntu?
[18:30] <Yodude> eckesicle: i know i just don't have the good bandwidth to re-download that ubuntu flavor, i don know thgouh that it's tons faster
[18:30] <isaacj87> I'm using an Intel i915
[18:30] <randorfer> isaacj87 intel is the currently developed one i810 is being phased out (as I understand it)
[18:30] <blip> This is more of a generic linux question - but can you have a website be your desktop background (I want to make meebo.com my default IM application )
[18:30] <eckesicle> vishal, i don't know then. Can you record in other program?
[18:30] <John_R> yodude: you dont want to install ubuntu on that machine, or you wouldnt complain about every solution offered
[18:30] <John_R> if your usb works, even slowly, install from a usb drive
[18:31] <Yodude> John_R: i've spend 2 days working to get it installed
[18:31] <John_R> otherwise stick it in a vm. or just keep xp on it
[18:31] <vishal> eckesicle: dont know any other programs, new to ubuntu, can you suggest one?
[18:31] <eckesicle> Yodude, xfce is much faster. You can always install regular ubuntu and then do sudo apt-get install xfce
[18:31] <isaacj87> randorfer: Ah. Well, I'm stuck on Feisty...so wouldn't the intel driver I have in my repo be older?
[18:31] <speedbird> hi
[18:31] <Yodude> eckesicle: i just can't get ubuntu to install
[18:31] <ikonia> Yodude: I think we can drop the topic, many people have provided lots of options, it's up to you what you do now
[18:31] <speedbird> i need some help guys
[18:31] <randorfer> isaacj87 things like drivers are developed independently of a distrubition (totally seperate movements)
[18:31] <eckesicle> Yodude, what is the error you get?
[18:32] <isaacj87> randorfer: I see. Thanks for the help :)
[18:32] <eckesicle> vishal, sorry. I'm not a sound guy.
[18:32] <Yodude> ikonia: ok thanks for your help guys
[18:32] <vishal> eckesicle: no problem thanks for trying ;)
[18:32] <Yodude> John_R: anyway thanks for your help :)
[18:32] <isaacj87> randorfer: Do I just go into synaptic and install the intel driver?
[18:32] <DIL_> i have ubuntu on a gateway solo that is great - i have another gateway solo that xp chokes
[18:33] <isaacj87> randorfer: I don't have to do anything special??
[18:33] <John_R> yodude: is there a slot on that box for an internal cdrom?
[18:33] <eckesicle> vishal: try this first: cat /etc/esound/esd.conf
[18:33] <Yodude> John_R: i think there's one for an external cdrom
[18:33] <randorfer> isaacj87 um, just check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and make sure the driver is listed as intel not i810 after you do so
[18:33] <John_R> ok
[18:33] <naknomik> I have a strange problem. In some gnome applications, I can't type anything. I see that there is SCIM icon in the notification area. If I exit that window I can type as usual. I suspect this is something to do with my international setup, but can't figure out what is wrong.
[18:33] <sverige> can anyone help me with openoffice and ati card?
[18:33] <isaacj87> randorfer: ah. good advice
[18:33] <John_R> np. was going to see if nay of the asstd internal laptop cdroms i have would fit it
[18:33] <isaacj87> randorfer: I'll do that
[18:34] <sverige> my openoffice wont start because i have ati card
[18:34] <randorfer> isaacj87 any other q's just ask ;-)
[18:34] <Yodude> John_R: just help me on this final solution, use a windows partitioner-create an ext3 partition housing the contents of the ubuntu cd-make it bootable-install ubuntu
[18:34] <randorfer> sverige really? thats interesting because it starts for most people with ati cards.
[18:34] <eckesicle> vishal, also did you select the microphone as input source? That is probably it
[18:34] <sverige> when i run ooficce -writer it gives me a unknown error and halt the execution
[18:34] <randorfer> sverige whats you real questions
[18:34] <ikonia> Yodude: you don't need xp to make an ext3 partition
[18:35] <ikonia> Yodude: just use the ubuntu installer
[18:35] <vishal> eckesicle: yeah i selected microphone
[18:35] <eckesicle> vishal, dblclick on volume control in top bar. Go Edit->Preferences
[18:35] <speedbird> can anyone tell me how to uninstall beryl
[18:35] <randorfer> sverige what is the error?
[18:35] <sverige> this is a fresh installation of gutsy
[18:35] <Yodude> John_R: isn't that the way many laptops manufacturers use to reformat their systems ? ( like those sony vaios recovery partitions)
[18:35] <eckesicle> vishal, Then click in input-source
[18:35] <ikonia> Yodude: you can't do that
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: How did you install it?
[18:35] <Yodude> ikonia: i can't ?
[18:35] <ikonia> Yodude: no
[18:35] <vishal> eckesicle: there is no input-source
[18:36] <sverige> some kind of unknow forking error
[18:36] <eckesicle> vishal, close the window and another tab should appear. No?
[18:36] <speedbird> don't remember followed some command i found online
[18:36] <eckesicle> vishal, what do you have?
[18:36] <izanbardprince> yeah, because they have to pay Microsoft a licensing fee every time they burn a CD with Windows on it
[18:36] <panosru> Hi! I have a problem with my Ubuntu Gutsy 64bit. When i enter my username & password to login into my system it takes about ~1 - 2 minutes to load. Does anyone knows anything about it?
[18:36] <Yodude> ikonia: you mean i can't install ubuntu off a bootable partition ?
[18:36] <speedbird> then someone told me i dont need beryl if i dont have gfx card
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[18:36] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:36] <izanbardprince> so they waste half your hard disk with a recover partition instead
[18:36] <ikonia> Yodude: you can - but probably not with your hardware and not without a lot of effort
[18:37] <sverige> WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit  that the error message
[18:37] <charles87> Yodude: I think you can mount the iso image and just copy the image to some partition...
[18:37] <vishal> eckesicle: when i got to prefrences i get the window to select what volume bars to add the the control
[18:37] <charles87> that uses the loopback
[18:37] <ikonia> charles87: that won't work
[18:37] <charles87> ok, I was not sure
[18:37] <charles87> ^^
[18:37] <ikonia> charles87: the squashfs symlinks are linked to cdrom device files
[18:37] <Yodude> charles87: and can i make that partition boot instead of the windows partition ?
[18:37] <eckesicle> vishal, yes there should be a checkbox called input source?
[18:37] <ikonia> charles87: so you're not using a cdrom so that won't work
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Not knowing what you used or how you installed it makes it tough to uninstall
[18:37] <sverige> i know it the ati card because when i take out the card the computer has a buildin video card and it works
[18:37] <chazco> When running "tasksel install lamp-server" everything goes well till tasksel freezes... It seems to have finished, just not exited. Ctrl+C doesnt kill it. Any ideas on making it work properly (would like to include it in a script)?
[18:37] <izanbardprince> ethan961: logging in as root is dangerous
[18:38] <ikonia> Yodude: does your old bios support selective boot partitions ?
[18:38] <charles87> Yodude: you have to configure your bootloader, that's what loads the OSs
[18:38] <eckesicle> sverige: did you install the latest ATI drivers?
[18:38] <speedbird> i used terminal to install it
[18:38] <eckesicle> !ati | sverige
[18:38] <ubotu> sverige: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:38] <speedbird> but i now i cant find it in add remove programs
[18:38] <juan> Hi, anyone can tell me how to upgrade to amarok 1.4.8, because i can't compile it from source :S ??
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: Do you know how to post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:38] <Yodude> ikonia:hehe your gonna laugh at this: the NIOS is locked i don't know the password ( it's my friend's machine he forgot the pass ) and i don't have a floppy to flash the BIOS
[18:39] <ikonia> Yodude: ok - so stop wasting time and drop it
[18:39] <speedbird> but i dont have any gfx card in my system
[18:39] <sverige> i use the restricted driver to install
[18:39] <speedbird> jack sparrow : no i dont :s
[18:39] <vishal> eckesicle: No input-source there but there is mic select, i have mic1 and 2 but i tried both, no luck
[18:39] <sverige> dont know if that install the latest drivers
[18:39] <ethan961_> izanbardprince: sorry, this is only the second day in my life I have used IRC, didn't know that
[18:39] <juan> Hi, anyone can tell me how to upgrade to amarok 1.4.8, because i can't compile it from source :S ??
[18:39] <ikonia> juan: if there is not an ubuntu package available, don't upgrade
[18:39] <sverige> after using the restricted drivers i can run glxgears
[18:39] <vishal> eckesicle: when mic1 is selected i can hear myself talking but not on mic 2
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: It would really help to know what script you used.. If you didnt use apt-get to install it.. apt-get will not uninstall it
[18:39] <sverige> so i assume it works
[18:39] <Yodude> charles87: i have a C: partition for windows how can i make the other boot instead of it ?
[18:39] <juan> ikonia and how do i know that?
[18:40] <ikonia> Yodude: what part of "NO" are you not getting
[18:40] <sverige> it looks like graphics acceleration is on
[18:40] <ikonia> juan: look in the ubuntu repo with synaptic for the version in there
[18:40] <speedbird> Alright let me check again
[18:40] <juan> ikonia no, it isn't :S
[18:40] <ikonia> juan: then there is no package
[18:40] <eckesicle> vishal, it is not mic1 you want. You want Capture1
[18:40] <Yodude> ikonia: please don't try to end the discussion because i think i CAN get thr cd to install
[18:40] <juan> ikonia so, there are 0 chances to get amarok 1.4.8???
[18:40] <charles87> Yodude: 2sec
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: go to a terminal and type  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list     then shift copy and paste it to the pastebin which I will link below.. then provide us with a link to view it.
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[18:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:41] <ikonia> Yodude: your bios is locked so you can't select the boot partition, you can't boot from a cdrom or floppy, what more do you want ?
[18:41] <Yodude> ikonia: i already got the cd to transfer to usb and boot, but it's too slow that's why i need another method
[18:41] <charles87> put that to your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:41] <vishal> eckesicle: there is only mic1 and mic2 on the drop down list
[18:41] <charles87> title           Microsoft Windows XP �dition familiale
[18:41] <charles87> root            (hd0,0)
[18:41] <Yodude> ikonia: i wish it wasn't like that but it's not even my laptop
[18:41] <ikonia> charles87: he's not got grub
[18:41] <charles87> savedefault
[18:41] <charles87> oh ok
[18:41] <ikonia> Yodude: your wasting time on this
[18:41] <Yodude> ikonia: i DO know that tyhe situation seems a LOT locked up and impossibe
[18:41] <eckesicle> vishal: open a terminal, type 'alsamixer'
[18:41] <eckesicle> w/o the quotes
[18:41] <juan> charles87 hey you are trying to fix the boot of windows xp??
[18:42] <charles87> juan: isn't that what he just asked?
[18:42] <eckesicle> vishal, then press tab once. You should now see a few volume bars named capture
[18:42] <xerxes1358> Is there Linux Support for MSN / Yahoo Video and Audio ?
[18:42] <eckesicle> vishal, raise the leftmost one
[18:42] <randorfer> Yodude, you have a usb dirve correct??  Why not try a one of the usbpendrive linux installs?
[18:42] <juan> charles87 well i don't know, i am having the same problem here, is there a solution?
[18:43] <charles87> what's wrong?
[18:43] <John_R> yodude
[18:43] <John_R> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[18:43] <Yodude> John_R: yeah?
[18:43] <Yodude> randorfer: i did try the ubuntu on stick rtutorial using that isotostick shell script
[18:43] <vishal> eckesicle: i think you've got it, master under capture was droppped
[18:43] <speedbird> i wrote  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:43] <Yodude> randorfer: but no matter what i did the usb wouldn't boot on any system
[18:44] <speedbird> and it opened a source.list file
[18:44] <speedbird> now what to do with that :( ?
[18:44] <eckesicle> vishal, excellent. Unfortunately i don't know how to get it back in the graphical interface.
[18:44] <Yodude> John_R: oh the link lol i just saw irt
[18:44] <TonKi> speedbird: sudo gedit .. to make changes
[18:44] <juan> speedbird are you trying to add repositories to sources.list?
[18:44] <eckesicle> vishal, but that's okay because the cool people use alsamixer anyhow
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> TonKi: stop please
[18:44] <xerxes1358> Jack_Sparrow, maybe you know
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: go to a terminal and type  gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list     then shift copy and paste it to the pastebin which I will link below.. then provide us with a link to view it.
[18:45] <eckesicle> Jack_Sparrow, you forgot sudo
[18:45] <eckesicle> Jack_Sparrow, sorry my bad
[18:45] <Yodude> John_R: thnx but that's using the alternate cd i only have the desktop cd, sop i'm guess either way if i want this to work i gotta use like 1000 of bandwidth
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> eckesicle: Not trying to edit it guys...
[18:45] <kartook> hello all friends
[18:45] <shaf1> If I have a RAID5 setup with 2x 500gb drives and 1x300gb drive, do I essentially lose 400gb of storage?
[18:45] <Yodude> 1000 megabytes
[18:45] <kartook> how to install FTP server
[18:45] <charles87> juan: what are the compiling errors?
[18:45] <randorfer> shaf1 yes
[18:45] <charles87> juan: you're trying to upgrade amarok right?
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> juan
[18:45] <eth01> kartook, you shouldn't use FTP. Use SCP.
[18:45] <vishal> eckesicle: lmao, hehe, I raised up everything and it works work, Thanks alot m8, and yh i dont really care about GUI as long as i can get it to work. Thanks for the help m8
[18:46] <eckesicle> Yodude, order a cd if bandwidth is a problem
[18:46] <charles87> juan: I'm good at compiling stuff :P
[18:46] <Yodude> John_R: but it DOES have some tips about booting a partition
[18:46] <speedbird> ok copied everything
[18:46] <John_R> yep
[18:46] <eckesicle> vishal, you're welcome.
[18:46] <speedbird> now ? paste where ?
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[18:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:46] <GigaYacht> hello everyone im a total noob and i have Hp laptop with the Broadcom 43xx problem, if i run "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" i can see the networks but have no idea how to connect, could someone please help
[18:46] <Yodude> eckesicle: they ship alternate cd's at shipit ?
[18:46] <speedbird> what is pastebin ?? :p
[18:46] <John_R> i dont see why you couldnt use those instructions to boot the desktop iso from a partition
[18:46] <Yodude> eckesicle: omg that would make it SO easier
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> speedbird: You really need to read so I dont have to repeat everything twice.
[18:46] <John_R> a cd image is a cd image
[18:46] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, hello. Press Alt-F2
[18:46] <charles87> speedbird: A site that holds temporary text
[18:47] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, type nm-applet
[18:47] <kartook> how to make a FTP server or SCP ?? any one refer the url for how to link
[18:47] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me w
[18:47] <speedbird> ok ok i got it now
[18:47] <speedbird> pasting it
[18:47] <eth01> kartook, google scp.
[18:47] <Malik_> how much space does ubuntu take up on hd
[18:47] <kartook> okie thanks
[18:47] <voidwasp_1-11> guys I'm on the final screen of the install process, and my resolution won't go above 640x480 and i can't see the buttons at the bottom of the screen, how do i advance to the next step?
[18:47] <kartook> thanks alot
[18:47] <Malik_> jus the installation
[18:47] <GigaYacht> okie
[18:47] <GigaYacht> i did that
[18:47] <nickrud> speedbird, if you're using pidgin for an irc client, you should install xchat. Any text addressed to you is red and you can't miss it
[18:47] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, now you should have a small little applet in your top bar. Click it to get a list of wireless networks. And then connect
[18:47] <ikonia> Malik_: default install is about 800 meg
[18:47] <ikonia> Malik_: it can run in about 400
[18:47] <ikonia> Malik_: or go into a couple of gig
[18:48] <GigaYacht> it says wired internet connection
[18:48] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, It may take up to 30 seconds for the program to detect the wireless networks around you
[18:48] <Yodude> thanks guys i think i found a good workable solution
[18:48] <ruru> Note to Self:  Never install ubuntu 64 bit for a home desktop
[18:48] <speedbird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50881/
[18:48] <ikonia> ruru: keep your notes to your self "to your self"
[18:48] <speedbird> ok you got it now ?
[18:48] <Yodude> but can someone just hint me at a good windows partition editor that is free ( if there is one ) ?
[18:48] <xerxes1358> Is there Linux Support for MSN / Yahoo Video and Audio ?
[18:48] <GigaYacht> i did that earlyer and now i have 2 open :S
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I will be leaving to go to the movies soon... speedbird did an install from a script and wants to undo it.. I was going to look at his sources list to try and see where he got it.  Assuming the worst..
[18:48] <eth01> this is ubuntu
[18:48] <eth01> so of course it'll be free.
[18:48] <eth01> geez
[18:48] <ikonia> xerxes1358: yes, with pidgin
[18:48] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, sure
[18:49] <ruru> keep sujjestions to yourself ikonia
[18:49] <ikonia> ruru: no, this topic is a busy support channel, for support questions only, not random musings
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> ruru: Please dont be rude
[18:49] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, okay. Go to System->Administration->Network
[18:49] <nickrud> speedbird, I'll try to take over from Jack_Sparrow , see what's there
[18:49] <ruru> Alright
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks nickrud
[18:49] <speedbird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50881/
[18:50] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, Select wireless connection and then click properties. Click in "Roaming mode"
[18:50] <speedbird> i have paste it here now what ? and treat me as a noob :p at ubuntu .. :P
[18:50] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, Then close the windows
[18:50] <ruru> anyone know how to get picasa, adobe flash to work on 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:50] <ikonia> ruru: currently the flashplugin package is broke for ubuntu in general
[18:50] <xerxes1358> ikonia, did you read what I said ?
[18:50] <ikonia> xerxes1358: apologies, no I missed it
[18:50] <swit> hellow
[18:50] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, wait 30 seconds and then the networks should appear in the little applet we started
[18:51] <GigaYacht> im sorry this is my first time with linux but i am running KDE and i dont know where system/ administration is, i had this problem before too
[18:51] <eckesicle> ikonia, gnash works yes?
[18:51] <ruru> And picasa anyone know work around to install this application?
[18:51] <xerxes1358> I was wondering if there is VIdeo and Audio support in Linux for MSN and Yahoo
[18:51] <ikonia> eckesicle: debatable
[18:51] <charles87> ruru: get the pack on adobe's site and copy the lib the your browser plugin directory
[18:51] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, ah are you running kubuntu?
[18:51] <ikonia> xerxes1358: not sure about video
[18:51] <nickrud> speedbird, I don't see any changes there, but the stuff may have been put in /etc/apt.conf.d/   do     ls  /etc/apt/.conf.d     in a terminal, and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[18:51] <GigaYacht> mint 4.1
[18:51] <ikonia> xerxes1358: I know amsn supports video in ubuntu for msn
[18:51] <GigaYacht> sorry i should have been more clear
[18:51] <nickrud> speedbird, and where'd you get the script at?
[18:51] <ikonia> GigaYacht: we don't support mint here
[18:51] <xerxes1358> ikonia, is there audio support as well ?
[18:51] <ruru> not sure understand that fully charles
[18:51] <speedbird> ok
[18:51] <ikonia> xerxes1358: I think so
[18:52] <speedbird> wait i m on it
[18:52] <GigaYacht> is there a better place i can check then?
[18:52] <Yodude> charles87: you still there ? sorry i just nticed your PM continue what u were saying please
[18:52] <ikonia> GigaYacht: look on mints websites for support options
[18:52] <John_R> yodude: http://www.tucows.com/search.html?search_scope=lin&search_lib=soft&search_adv=0&search_size=&search_size_multi=b&search_terms=partition+editor+freeware&x=0&y=0
[18:52] <GigaYacht> okie thanks
[18:52] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, this is an ubuntu support channel. However you may try the following. in the terminal type: iwconfig wlan0 essid yournetworkname
[18:53] <gin1> hi!
[18:53] <Yodude> John_R: thnkx i
[18:53] <GigaYacht> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[18:53] <GigaYacht>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[18:53] <Yodude> John_R: i'll check it out
[18:53] <gin1> im got problem s with dsniff some one can help me?????????
[18:53] <John_R> if anybody has a fre partition editor. you can find it at tucows
[18:53] <speedbird> bash: /etc/apt.conf.d/: No such file or directory
[18:53] <speedbird> got this error :S
[18:54] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, sorry. type instead: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "networkname"
[18:54] <ikonia> eckesicle: we are not here to support mint
[18:54] <nickrud> speedbird, sorry that should be /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[18:54] <ikonia> eckesicle: please stop
[18:54] <mular> hello guys, anyone know how I would know if I am using the right kernal for my processor (pentium 4)
[18:54] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, use man iwconfig for more info
[18:54] <speedbird> ok
[18:54] <nickrud> speedbird, and when you type to me, be sure to put my nick in the line, it's red and I can't miss it
[18:54] <eckesicle> ikonia, big deal. It's the same in ubuntu
[18:54] <randorfer> ikonia:  what is wrong with giving the general way to connect to wireless lans via the cli
[18:55] <ikonia> eckesicle: its not, and the policy of this channel it to not support ubuntu
[18:55] <charles87> mular: did you compile it yourself?
[18:55] <ikonia> randorfer: because we support ubuntu in here only.
[18:55] <speedbird> nickrud bash: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d: is a directory
[18:55] <nickrud> ikonia, not support ubuntu ?? ;p
[18:55] <GigaYacht> lo        no wireless extensions.
[18:55] <GigaYacht> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[18:55] <GigaYacht> eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:25 dBm
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B
[18:55] <ikonia> randorfer: that is the channels topic and policy
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Power Management:off
[18:55] <eckesicle> ikonia, is the policy to not support ubuntu? ooops. Ill stop then
[18:55] <mular> charles87, no I did not just downloaded the generic desktop installer
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[18:55] <eckesicle> :)
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[18:55] <GigaYacht>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[18:55] <nickrud> speedbird, yes.  the command I gave was    ls /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[18:55] <eckesicle> !paste | GigaYacht
[18:55] <ubotu> GigaYacht: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:55] <speedbird> ok
[18:55] <randorfer> ikonia, and that is a valid solution for ubuntu on the cli is it not?
[18:55] <GigaYacht> sorry
[18:55] <ikonia> GigaYacht: please take your questions to a mint support arena
[18:56] <Goupil418> Hi everyone
[18:56] <charles87> mular: well your CPU is probably supported then
[18:56] <ikonia> randorfer: he's not using ubuntu
[18:56] <nickrud> speedbird, ls is 'list' , it gives a file/directory listing
[18:56] <mular> I was browsing google and that was one of the tips I read for new ubuntu users on linux.com - said to get the most you should install a kernal out of synaptic
[18:56] <ikonia> randorfer: he's using mint
[18:56] <charles87> mular: what CPU do you have? what's wrong?
[18:56] <mular> but that post was from 2005 so I am wondering maybe things changed?
[18:56] <speedbird> nickrud let me try again now
[18:56] <mular> oh nothing really, just the tip said Ubuntu will install a 386 kernal for you, and if you have a p2 or better thats not something you may want
[18:57] <speedbird> alright
[18:57] <ikonia> mular: the kernels are generic
[18:57] <mular> so I was just curious lol, its an outdated post so I assume thats wrong now
[18:57] <nickrud> mular, yes, that's old suggestions, the new kernel supports all chip versions now
[18:57] <eckesicle> GigaYacht, in the command I gave you replace wlan0 with eth1. The device name is different on your system
[18:57] <kbrooks> mular, kernel not kernal
[18:57] <mular> ah ok thanks guys :)
[18:57] <mular> lol ty ;)
[18:57] <Generic> or am I the kernel?
[18:57] <ikonia> eckesicle: can we please stop with mint user support please.
[18:57] <speedbird> nickrud : its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50883/
[18:58] <randorfer> ikonia, no, no thats not true kernels can be optimized for different architecures (i386, i586, i686 etc)
[18:58] <nickrud> eckesicle, or take it to #eck , support is always nice
[18:58] <ikonia> randorfer: they CAN be but ubuntu makes a generic
[18:58] <lostsanity> hello, i installed ubuntu two days ago, and i've been able to resolve any issue's i had except i keep getting random freezes and have to restart my computer, i haven't noticed any patterns except that it's always while i'm doing something (anything, using a browser or WINE mostly though), does anyone know what could be happening?
[18:58] <eckesicle> ikonia, tomato, tomato.
[18:58] <eckesicle> crap, doesn't work when you type it out...
[18:58] <ikonia> eckesicle: no - not tomato tomato
[18:58] <g-hennux> hi!
[18:58] <speedbird> nickrud its just two lines
[18:58] <Goupil418> Hi everyone I'm new to IRC, Linux and Ubuntu can anyone give me a few tips so I don't get lost?
[18:58] <eckesicle> hello!
[18:58] <charles87> lostsanity: how much ram do you have?
[18:58] <eckesicle> Goupil418, use a map!
[18:58] <ikonia> Goupil418: ask specific questions
[18:59] <lostsanity> 512
[18:59] <nickrud> speedbird, ok it didn't change your sources apparently. do this in a terminal,   dpkg -l '*beryl*' and pastebin the results
[18:59] <charles87> lostsanity: do you have swap?
[18:59] <Goupil418> ikonia: I'd like to start programming
[18:59] <lostsanity> swap? sorry i don't know what that is?
[18:59] <eckesicle> Goupil418, Take a course in Java at the open university
[18:59] <ikonia> Goupil418: pick a book then to teach an appropriate language
[18:59] <speedbird> ok
[18:59] <DIL_> the deep freeze has entered the IRC
[18:59] <speedbird> nickrud ok
[18:59] <nickrud> speedbird, and if you could remember where you got the script ....
[18:59] <charles87> lostsanity: swap is used to transfert programs that takes too much space into RAM
[18:59] <charles87> lostsanity: this is just like a partition
[19:00] <g-hennux> where does ubuntu store the ladspa plugins? i have a asoundrc file from gentoo where it says 'path "/usr/lib/ladspa"' in it, but this seems not to be true for my ubuntu
[19:00] <eckesicle> lostsanity, type: cat/etc/fstab | grep swap
[19:00] <speedbird> nickrud no i dont :(
[19:00] <eckesicle> what do you see?
[19:00] <nickrud> speedbird, do you still have the script?
[19:00] <eckesicle> oops wrong wrong wrong
[19:00] <eckesicle> lostsanity, should be: cat /etc/fstab | grep swap
[19:00] <lostsanity> er k
[19:00] <lostsanity> k sec
[19:00] <JakeGreen> hello all
[19:01] <JakeGreen> (hI)
[19:01] <eckesicle> Hello JakeGreen
[19:01] <speedbird> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50884/
[19:01] <speedbird> nickrud no i dont have that script now :s tried to find but no i dont think so
[19:01] <Fuse1921> Hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me with my boot disk, im having trouble with my pc to recognize it.
[19:01] <lostsanity> UUID=14383084-ccba-4cf7-a363-03ac81628d67 none            swap    sw              0       0
[19:01] <fantum13> Hello, would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot DHCP on my wireless? I'm using an AR5007EG with ndiswrapper in amd64 7.10.
[19:01] <eckesicle> excellent. So you do have swap
[19:02] <nickrud> speedbird, that helps a lot.   system->admin->synaptic, let me know when it's open
[19:02] <charles87> lostsanity: open a terminal and type in "top"
[19:02] <eckesicle> !anyone | fantum13
[19:02] <Goupil418> ikonia: cool thanks! I'd also like to know more about the files formats and conversion of files like movies, audio and flash on firefox
[19:02] <ubotu> fantum13: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:02] <DIL_> !python | Gouipil418
[19:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:02] <Iolaus> Hey all, can anyone tell me if there are repositories that maintain more bleeding edge packages for things like x.org, alsa, mesa, etc or is the only way to test them to build them from source?
[19:02] <randorfer> fantum are you running the 64 bit kernel?
[19:02] <charles87> lostsanity: look for resource hungry processes
[19:02] <speedbird> nickrud its open now
[19:03] <fantum13> randorfer: Yes, I am. I'm also using a 64-bit windows driver in ndiswrapper. I've gotten it to work previously with the same setup, but I'm not sure what exactly happened to cause that, and now it isn't working again.
[19:03] <eckesicle> Goupil418, but if you want to learn programming look for a course that seems to fit your needs and wants at the local university or online at the open university
[19:03] <nickrud> speedbird, on the lower left there's some buttons, press the one that says Status
[19:03] <Goupil418> DIL_: hi ^_^
[19:03] <indigo196> I am looking for guidance on a boot problem with Ubuntu 64bit. The system will not boot unless I remove quiet and splash from the Grub Menu.list
[19:03] <Fuse1921> Anybody happen to know if the Dell XPS Gen 4 desktop is compatible with Ubuntu?
[19:03] <Goupil418> eckesicle: I want to start a new OS ^_^
[19:03] <indigo196> I am curious as to why this would be the case when I have no issues with this using Fedora or SUSE
[19:03] <speedbird> nickrud ok now i m in status
[19:04] <nickrud> speedbird, upper left, there's Installed (local or obsolete) , select that
[19:04] <eckesicle> Goupil418, Do you have ubuntu now?
[19:04] <randorfer> fantum13:  yeah sorry I was going to give advice but it is 32bit specific (patched atheros driver -- not available for 64bit yet), I've never delt with the 64 bit problems
[19:04] <lostsanity> ok.. Xorg and konversation are at the top
[19:04] <Goupil418> eckesicle: yep update and running
[19:04] <eckesicle> Goupil418, excellent. Mission accomplished
[19:04] <lostsanity> nothing seems to stand out too much though?
[19:04] <speedbird> nickrud ok selected now
[19:04] <Iolaus> Can anyone tell me if there are repositories that maintain more bleeding edge packages for things like x.org, alsa, mesa, etc or is the only way to test them to build them from source?
[19:05] <Goupil418> eckesicle: I love the open source over here it's great
[19:05] <nickrud> speedbird, do you see the same packages on the right that is in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50884/
[19:05] <charles87> Iolaus: try compiling from source ;)
[19:05] <eckesicle> !backports | Iolaus
[19:05] <ubotu> Iolaus: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[19:05] <mular> man ubuntu's support really rocks, I just compiled my first program from source with help of the forums.... so nice to be able to do this stuff on your own :)
[19:05] <speedbird> nickrud let me check
[19:06] <gob1029> hey all, i've got a quick question regarding running a script on start-up
[19:06] <cvasilak> anybody having an atheros 5418 chipset and how he make it work under ubuntu. i tried the latest svn madwifi drivers it loads successfully but cannot associate with the wireless access point so dhclient canot acquire an ip address
[19:06] <Iolaus> eckesicle: thanks for the info
[19:06] <corinth> I have a buddy who wants a script he created to run on startup. He needs su permissions for this, though. How can he set it to run at startup with su permissions?
[19:06] <eckesicle> Goupil418, indeed. If you want to learn your system well. Hang around here. Listen to what people say. Try to help other people. Join the forums. Start writing your own scripts. For instance, maybe you want to have a smart system that backups your home folder every night? How would you do that? Google and find out!
[19:06] <mular> whenever you compile something from source, I thought you should always move the original stuff that you extract from the .tar over to /usr/src ? Also to be able to remove it again later I should save all that stuff in there right? (installed via checkinstall
[19:07] <Fuse1921> Can anybody asist with installation at all?
[19:07] <speedbird> nickrud : now its just delugue torrent and easy ubuntu
[19:07] <eckesicle> Iolaus, you're welcome
[19:07] <indigo196> I am looking for guidance on a boot problem with Ubuntu 64bit. The system will not boot unless I remove quiet and splash from the Grub Menu.list
[19:07] <nickrud> mular, I usually have a src dir in my home dir, do all my compiling there
[19:07] <sverige> can anyone help me get openoffice work with ati card?
[19:07] <eckesicle> Fuse1921, installation of ubuntu?
[19:07] <nickrud> speedbird, oh, you installed easyubuntu !!
[19:07] <Goupil418> eckesicle, ahhh that's really good thanks for the info ^_^what is the forums www?
[19:07] <eckesicle> sverige, did it not work with the new drivers?
[19:08] <eckesicle> !forums | Goupil418
[19:08] <ubotu> Goupil418: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[19:08] <mular> nickrud, ah thats a good idea so that way you don't have to use sudo.. so if I was to move my src folder I would still be able to remove the programs down the road ?
[19:08] <KotBehemot> hello
[19:08] <KotBehemot> i have a problem with ubuntu
[19:08] <speedbird> nickrud yeah i did .. and honestly don't know what it is :p
[19:08] <KotBehemot> i can' see alsaconf
[19:08] <KotBehemot> ?
[19:08] <sverige> which one are you talking about the restricted drivers or the drivers from ati homepage?
[19:08] <Mexicant> How do I identify the (hdx,y) of my harddrive?
[19:08] <Goupil418> eckesicle, nice thanks ^_^
[19:08] <nickrud> mular, yes, if the developer created an uninstall option for make, so you'd change into the dir you compiled in then run sudo make uninstall
[19:09] <ssorel> x is equal to the partition number
[19:09] <mular> thanks nickrud !
[19:09] <ssorel> So if windoze is the beggining then its lets say hda1
[19:09] <mular> does moblock work with firestarter?
[19:09] <Fuse1921> ecksicle: yes, i have the image burned onto a disk, i have tried both the Live CD and the Alternate CD. I put it in my drive, press the right 'F' key on startup to get to the boot menu, and when i select my boot from Onboard CD Drive it says theres no media. It only happens with Ubuntu. I have succesfully done it with Fendora though.
[19:09] <ssorel> And your second partition is maybe linux swap hda2
[19:09] <randorfer> cvasilak if no one has helped you you could try /join #madwifi , they may be able to help you better
[19:09] <ssorel> and your /  <--root partition maybe hda3
[19:09] <lostsanity> well like i said nothing really stands out as far as resource usage..
[19:10] <eckesicle> Fuse1921, did you download the LiveCD?
[19:10] <nickrud> speedbird, it's a thing that helps you install stuff, you may have used that to install beryl. But anyway, if you don't see beryl there , do   sudo apt-get update , and pastebin that. It'll show some more info about your repos
[19:10] <corinth> How can I set a program/file to run at startup with su permissions?
[19:10] <Arelis_> Does anybody know how i can get the OLD version of Flash? Konqueror doesn't support the new one.
[19:10] <Fuse1921> eckesicle: it works in a VMware boot but not at start-up, I'm totally stuck.
[19:10] <randorfer> KotBehemot you cant see alsaconf?  did you try locate alsaconf (after sudo updatedb)
[19:10] <Goupil418> eckesicle, so what is the best programming language to start an OS or just to modify one?
[19:10] <speedbird> nickrud : ok hold on doing it now
[19:11] <eckesicle> Goupil418, C or C++
[19:11] <KotBehemot> randorfer: yeah
[19:11] <corinth> Arelis_, If you wait 6 days for KDE 4.0, the new konqurer supports it :-P
[19:11] <KotBehemot> randorfer: and there is no alsaconf
[19:11] <Mexicant> How do I identify the (hdx,y) of my harddrive? And if it is a SATA, would it be sda1?
[19:11] <Goupil418> eckesicle, is it hard to learn?
[19:11] <Rezagrats> With Gutsy Gibbon do i have to modify the GRUB thing for dual-boot ?
[19:11] <Arelis_> corinth: KDE 4 is 4.0.0 and very incomplete.
[19:11] <corinth> Arelis_, I know, I know.
[19:11] <Arelis_> corinth: the official developers are saying that
[19:11] <aram> can anyone help how can i install traceroute package for terminal
[19:11] <eckesicle> Fuse1921, Did you check so that the CDROM is not corrupt?
[19:12] <ssorel> MexicanT
[19:12] <ssorel> It would be sda
[19:12] <eckesicle> Goupil418, well have you done any programming?
[19:12] <randorfer> KotBehemot, hmmm, sudo apt-get alsa-utils (I think thats the buntu package)
[19:12] <Arelis_> corinth: and i am not using hardy..
[19:12] <ssorel> sda1   <--  partition one of SATA drive
[19:12] <Arelis_> corinth: any other solution, though? :)
[19:12] <ssorel> sda2
[19:12] <ssorel> sda3
[19:12] <ssorel> ETC
[19:12] <Rezagrats> Also whats the name for the thing i can windows programs in ?
[19:12] <Goupil418> eckesicle, I tried but I failed
[19:12] <KotBehemot> randorfer: but it is installed
[19:12] <ssorel> rez   +   wine
[19:12] <ssorel> Rezagrats its wine
[19:13] <Rezagrats> Oh
[19:13] <ssorel> the windows emulator
[19:13] <dn4> www.maps.google.com will now show anything any ideas?
[19:13] <randorfer> KotBehemot, if you cant find it with locate after doing sudo updatedb then its not on you system?
[19:13] <speedbird> nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50887/
[19:13] <Fuse1921> eckesicle: I ran the Check Integrity thing within my VMPLayer and it said it was fine, but is there a diffrent way just to double check?
[19:13] <eckesicle> Goupil418, it's not easy. I learned C++ in 3 weeks on my own with the help of a book I bought. But you learn new things every day
[19:13] <randorfer> KotBehemot it should be located in /sbin/
[19:13] <redspike> can i upgrade to a newer kernel i ubuntu 6.06 ?
[19:13] <KotBehemot> randorfer: yeah it is not but synaptics says that i have installed alsa-utils
[19:13] <eckesicle> Goupil418, I recommend buying a book or taking a class
[19:13] <Rezagrats> With Gutsy Gibbon do i have to modify GRUB for dual-boot ? is it necessary ?
[19:13] <randorfer> KotBehemot it should be located in /usr/sbin/*
[19:13] <Mexicant> ssorel, i have 1 SATA, and I am editting the /boot/grub/menu.lst. How would I enter the sda into the boot menu?
[19:13] <KotBehemot> randorfer: one sec
[19:13] <aram> can anyone help how can i install traceroute package for terminal
[19:13] <Mexicant> join #grub
[19:13] <Mexicant> sry
[19:14] <Goupil418> eckesicle, that's nice! I'll do for sure I just need to know where to take a class because I don't know exactly where to start in programming
[19:14] <ssorel> yes, you can rez.
[19:14] <ssorel> However it should usually be done automatically with gutsy
[19:14] <ssorel> Didnt show up on bottom of grub list?
[19:14] <nickrud> speedbird, it looks like you have the standard stuff. Do   COLUMNS=255 dpkg -l '*beryl*'
[19:14] <eckesicle> Fuse1921, it does not seem to be an error with ubuntu if it says media not present.
[19:14] <nickrud> speedbird, and paste that
[19:14] <Kleggen> aram: sudo aptitude install traceroute
[19:14] <speedbird> nickrud ok
[19:15] <corinth> No one knows how to get a program to run with su permissions at startup?
[19:15] <aram> Kleggen: thanks a lot
[19:15] <eckesicle> Goupil418, your local college or university will definitely offer courses. MIT has several programming courses online. But buying a book is probably the easiest way
[19:15] <Fuse1921> eckesicle: thanks anyway
[19:15] <Arelis_> corinth: any other solution, though? :)
[19:15] <randorfer> corinth put it into the init scripts?
[19:15] <eckesicle> corinth, put it in startup scripts
[19:15] <batoms> when i plug in my medial player (iriver s10) it shows up in nautilus but i get an access denied error
[19:15] <batoms> it doesn't show up in /media
[19:16] <corinth> eckesicle, A small walk-through, please?
[19:16] <batoms> i'm in the plugdev group already
[19:16] <speedbird> nickrud : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50888/
[19:16] <Goupil418> eckesicle, yeah I'm better at reading than going to classes everyday
[19:17] <Goupil418> eckesicle, do you know if there's a good website for learning C and C++? a complete one?
[19:17] <eckesicle> !initd | corinth
[19:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:17] <nickrud> speedbird, according to that you have only ubuntu stuff (should have done this a while ago, got locked into the idea that the script downloaded from somewhere else)  For sure, do  apt-cache policy beryl , and pastebin that
[19:17] <corinth> Heh. Nice try :-P
[19:17] <arizalord> last ATI driver is by default in restricted controlers?
[19:18] <lostsanity> so.. then might it have anything to do with running the 64-bit thinger? sorry if that's completely irrelevant, but as you probobly see by my use of the word "thinger" i'm a bit of a noob
[19:18] <eckesicle> !init.d | corinth
[19:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:18] <batoms> and doing a mount -a /dev/sda /somedir works
[19:18] <eckesicle> grrr.
[19:18] <speedbird> nickrud ok
[19:18] <Goupil418> hehe
[19:18] <eckesicle> corinth, hold on i think there's a policy in this channel for how to mess around with the startup scripts
[19:18] <ssorel> all your taco are belong to us
[19:18] <randorfer> corinth http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[19:18] <randorfer> corinth old but applicable
[19:19] <arizalord> last ATI driver is by default in restricted controlers?
[19:19] <eckesicle> found it!
[19:19] <eckesicle> corinth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[19:19] <speedbird> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50890/
[19:19] <d0lph1nK1ng21> can i virtually and natively boot Ubuntu from another partition on the same disk?
[19:19] <arizalord> last ATI driver is by default in restricted controlers?
[19:20] <corinth> randorfer, eckesicle, Thanks. Will check out.
[19:20] <jinxed-> I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my graphics are all screwed up
[19:20] <arizalord> somebody know?
[19:20] <arizalord> somebody knows?
[19:20] <aram> i want to install this 3 os :win xp ,win 2003 and ubuntu can any one help with order i mean which one istall first and then other...?
[19:20] <eckesicle> !repeat | arizalord
[19:20] <ubotu> arizalord: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:20] <nickrud> speedbird, lines 6 & 7 confirm you have that package from ubuntu. You can repeat that   apt-cache policy    command for each package in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50888/ to confirm the rest if you like
[19:20] <eckesicle> arizalord, yes
[19:21] <nickrud> arizalord, no, 8.37.6 is in ubuntu, the latest is 8.44.3
[19:21] <eckesicle> aram: Install windows first. Make a D drive that is large so that you may fit ubuntu on it
[19:21] <speedbird> nickrud each package of what man ... i dont exactly know what i m doing right now .. i just want to uninstall beryl :s
[19:22] <arizalord> nickrud, thx... do you know how i can install it?
[19:22] <jinxed-> eckesicle, could you help me with some resolution issues?
[19:22] <eckesicle> !dualboot | aram
[19:22] <ubotu> aram: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[19:22] <speedbird> nickrud : can i uninstall them from synaptic ?
[19:22] <nickrud> speedbird, you're good to go. in synaptic, search (ctl-f) for beryl, and mark the found packages for removal (click the green box to choose remove)
[19:22] <Goupil418> eckesicle, would you know any good websites for learning C and C++? a complete one by chance?
[19:22] <indigo196> I am looking for guidance on a boot problem with Ubuntu 64bit. The system will not boot unless I remove quiet and splash from the Grub Menu.list
[19:23] <Arelis_> !flash
[19:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:23] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:23] <eckesicle> Goupil418, ask in c++
[19:23] <speedbird> nickrud : thanks man doing it now :)
[19:23] <eckesicle> Goupil418, ask in #c++
[19:23] <Goupil418> cool thanks!
[19:23] <randorfer> goupil418 http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~hasti/cs368/CppTutorial/index.html
[19:23] <nickrud> speedbird, first thing I was doing was looking for how you got the stuff installed so it wouldn't get automatically reinstalled, since you're using ubuntu ones regular tools will do the job
[19:23] <eckesicle> !ask | jinxed-
[19:23] <ubotu> jinxed-: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:23] <indigo196> Adobe sucks -- they haven't been able to make a 64bit version of flash.
[19:23] <nuckinfuts> hello, im having a serious issue booting into a new system, screen goes black after loading screen, this happens with the LiveCD and now after i installed using the text installer, the video card are Two nVidia 8600GT's connected in SLI
[19:24] <sverige> for ati which drivers should i use? the restricted drivers or the ati drivers from ati webpage?
[19:24] <eckesicle> !resolution | jinxed-
[19:24] <ubotu> jinxed-: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:24] <ZiNC2^6> Hello.
[19:25] <eckesicle> !ati | sverige
[19:25] <ubotu> sverige: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:25] <DWonderly> how do I check if I am using XGL or AIGLX?
[19:25] <Palthron> Hello, anybody familiar with GtkFileSplitter? I'm splitting a 4GB file and it's been running for 3 hours. Is this normal? (512MB memory)
[19:26] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Single HDD?
[19:26] <speedbird> nickrud i found 31 packages when i searched for beryl .. should i uninstall all of them ? or the ones with names starting with beryl ?
[19:26] <randorfer> DWonderly check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it says xgl or aiglx?
[19:26] <Palthron> Zinc2^6 : Yes single HDD
[19:26] <nuckinfuts> no one else getting a black screen on nvidia 8 series cards? fresh install
[19:27] <nickrud> speedbird, most of those probably aren't green, you should only see 9 with the green box
[19:27] <speedbird> ok
[19:27] <corinth> randorfer, eckesicle, Worked, thanks!
[19:27] <charle> buona sera
[19:27] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: I'm not familiar with Ubuntu at all, but it sound exaggerated either way. I suppose splitting from and to the same drive if you don't have DMA enabled for the HDD can take quite a while, but not 3 hours.
[19:27] <eckesicle> corinth, you're welcome
[19:27] <nickrud> speedbird, based on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50888/ , the ones starting with ii are installed
[19:28] <speedbird> nickrud i have 12 with green box
[19:28] <randorfer> corinth, glad it worked for you!
[19:28] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Does the HDD crunch a lot? Is there a progress indicator?
[19:28] <xerxes1358> How do I install aMSN
[19:28] <Palthron> ZiNC2^6 : OK I will research about DMA. I think this is true since my CPU load is kept under 50% the whole time (Not CPU load related). Thanks!
[19:28] <ConstyXIV> xerxes1358: add/remove, search for amsn
[19:28] <nickrud> speedbird, find the packages that you see in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50888/ ,then tell me the extra ones
[19:28] <speedbird> nickrud
[19:29] <xerxes1358> ConstyXIV, there is no aMSN there
[19:29] <Palthron> Zinc : Nope, disk activity seems normal
[19:29] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Maybe that software is just buggy for >4GB files.
[19:29] <speedbird> nickrud .. ok looking for them
[19:29] <arizalord> nickrud, do you know some how-to to install the lastest ATI driver?
[19:29] <randorfer> xerxes1358 apt-cache search amsn and then apt-get intsall the corresponding result
[19:29] <ConstyXIV> xerxes1358: next to the search bar, toggle the "show" box to "all available"
[19:29] <fantum13> xerxes1358: Are you searching through all possible applications, or do you have certain repositories disabled?
[19:29] <nickrud> arizalord, I used http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide , carefully!
[19:30] <Palthron> Zinc : I cannot find any other alternative that can be joined in Windows so I'm stuck for now.
[19:30] <nuckinfuts> scouring the forums for this issue and finding zilch
[19:30] <ZiNC2^6> Does anyone know what files I need to boot a Ubuntu 7.10 from within an ISO on FAT thru grub4dos?
[19:30] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: If it's just splitting, anything will do I suppose.
[19:30] <arizalord> it runs without problems?
[19:31] <randorfer> ZiNC2^6, I guess my question would be if you are going to have linux on your box why install grub4dos?
[19:31] <Flare183> How can I setup Kontact/KMail to where I can read and send my email through my yahoo mail?
[19:31] <nickrud> arizalord, I'll use the standard for stuff that isn't in the repos, Works for Me™
[19:31] <ZiNC2^6> randorfer: No dedicated partition, etc. It's not as primary OS, of course.
[19:31] <randorfer> ZiNC2^6, scratch that, read the rest of your question
[19:31] <Palthron> Zinc : I'm splitting in gnome and joining the file in Windows. A compressor would waste time compressing the data first
[19:31] <eckesicle> xerxes1358, amsn is in universe
[19:31] <magic_ninja> !sound
[19:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:31] <dgjones> xerxes1358, use synaptic, search for "amsn", it should be in the universe repo
[19:32] <eckesicle> !universe | xerxes1358
[19:32] <ubotu> xerxes1358: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[19:32] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: For simple splitting, you could join it on Windows (or otherwise) even without any tools at all.
[19:32] <Flare183> !amsn | xerxes1358
[19:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:32] <speedbird> nickrud : emerald and emerald themes and l and libberylengine0
[19:32] <Flare183> !info amsn | xerxes1358
[19:32] <Spl33n> Hi all! Powertop shows me no C3 state when I am on running my laptop on AC power. Why is that? How can I enable my C3 state of CPU when on AC power?
[19:32] <ubotu> xerxes1358: amsn: An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[19:32] <nickrud> speedbird, yes, remove them as well. synaptic is smart :)
[19:32] <speedbird> nickrud : these 3 are extras :p
[19:32] <ethan961> v
[19:32] <Palthron> Zinc : I didn't know that. I'll try researching some more. Thank you :)
[19:32] <ethan961> whoops
[19:32] <nuckinfuts> well if ubuntu has no solution/capability to display even text on nvidia 8600GT's im just gonna have to go back to Fedora
[19:33] <speedbird> nickrud ok removing them all .. .all the ones in green right ?
[19:33] <arizalord> nickrud, thx so much... i'll try it!
[19:33] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Just copy /b 1+2+3+4 out
[19:33] <nickrud> speedbird, yes
[19:33] <Flare183> nickrud: any idea on how to make yahoo mail work on ubuntu (you know through an email client)?
[19:33] <Palthron> Zinc : In Windows?
[19:33] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Yes. Linux should have something similar.
[19:33] <speedbird> nickrud ok removing them now
[19:33] <jinxed-> Can someone help me fix my screen resolution and get dual monitors working properly. I have a 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce Go 6600 128 MB video card and my comp montior is 15.4" WSXGA TFT LCD 1680x1050, and i have a 19'' lcd fuji montior as my second monitor
[19:33] <ethan961> /msg nickserv register hockeyrules
[19:33] <nickrud> Flare183, no, I've never had a yahoo account that I got mail in
[19:33] <Palthron> Zinc : OK, i'll try that first with some smaller files
[19:34] <Flare183> nickrud: crap ok
[19:34] <nickrud> Flare183, but doesn't it have pop access?
[19:34] <ZiNC2^6> randorfer: What part was "rest"? :)
[19:34] <Flare183> nickrud: yeah for a price
[19:34] <nickrud> ah. get gmail
[19:34] <Arelis_> uh-oh.. guys, i installed Firefox beta 2 via some guide via the 'net.. how do i remove it? reinstalling the firefox package doesn't work..
[19:34] <randorfer> ZiNC2^6 I guess I just re-read you question and actually read why it said not what I thought it said ;-)
[19:34] <Flare183> nickrud: i'm talking about using like hotway or something like tthat
[19:34] <Flare183> *that
[19:34] <nuckinfuts> alright, 0 answers, back to Fedora 8
[19:34] <ZiNC2^6> randorfer: That's... interesting. :)
[19:35] <nickrud> Flare183, I've heard of stuff, but don't know any names or the like
[19:35] <randorfer> nickinfuts:  ? whats the q?
[19:35] <jinxed-> Can someone help me fix my screen resolution and get dual monitors working properly. I have a 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce Go 6600 128 MB video card and my comp montior is 15.4" WSXGA TFT LCD 1680x1050, and i have a 19'' lcd fuji montior as my second monitor
[19:35] <Flare183> !ask
[19:35] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:35] <speedbird> nickrud thanks alot man .. all removed now :D
[19:35] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Yeah. See how long 100MB takes. Is that file actually >4GB?
[19:35] <eckesicle> Hey, what's the name of the command to count the number of lines?
[19:35] <MisterChief> Bah, i'm back to square one
[19:35] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, what is your question?
[19:35] <fantum13> Has anyone had any success connecting to wireless networks using ndiswrapper on an AR5007EG on gutsy? The forums are filled with people with this bug, and so far I haven't had any luck finding it...
[19:35] <ZiNC2^6> eckesicle: Might be wc
[19:35] <nuckinfuts> black screen on bootup or GUI install, no text prompt, video cards are 2 8600GT in SLI
[19:35] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, did you try the alternate cds?
[19:36] <randorfer> fantum13 you should add that its dealing with the 64 bit version, that is very applicable to your question
[19:36] <jinxed-> Does anyone know how I can use NVIDIA card to configure graphics??
[19:36] <Flare183> nuckinfuts: incompatible hardware
[19:36] <nickrud> speedbird, sorry about the long way around, but surgery on someone else's machine remotely is something to take time on :)
[19:36] <Palthron> Zinc : It worksssss yeeeeaaaah :D thanks
[19:36] <nuckinfuts> yes, i have it installed with the text install disc
[19:36] <Flare183> !repeat | jinxed-
[19:36] <ubotu> jinxed-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:36] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: What, copy /b?
[19:36] <fantum13> Has anyone had any success connecting to wireless networks using ndiswrapper on an AR5007EG on 64-bit gutsy? The forums are filled with people with this bug, and so far I haven't had any luck finding it...
[19:36] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, you can try to supply the command break=top
[19:36] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, sorry boot parameter
[19:36] <Flare183> !repeat | fantum13
[19:36] <ubotu> fantum13: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:36] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, for some reason that worked for  me when i had a similar problem with Dapper
[19:37] <Palthron> Zinc : yes, copy /b using file splitted using GtkileSplitter
[19:37] <Flare183> *sigh*
[19:37] <nuckinfuts> cant be incompatable hardware, i had Fedora 8 running SLI great, till all my modules for the kernel dissapeared
[19:37] <jinxed-> eckesicle, I did what you said, and it didn't do anything except restart the system to like a dos prompt
[19:37] <randorfer> Flare183, he changed / modified his question
[19:37] <fantum13> Flare183: that wasn't a repeat ;)
[19:37] <jinxed-> where it asked for my username and password
[19:37] <Flare183> *sigh* whatever
[19:37] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Oh, that was the simple part. The question is what's up with the speed. (Or >4GB problem.)
[19:37] <eckesicle> jinxed-, remind me, what did I say?
[19:37] <Ben> hello all. New to IRC so I'm not really ware of IRC rules and ethics but I just have a question about triple booting ubuntu and other os's
[19:37] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, what exactly does the command do?
[19:37] <jinxed-> !resolution
[19:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:37] <Ben> Do i just ask the question here in main room?
[19:37] <ZiNC2^6> Ben: No special IRC rules. :)
[19:37] <ZiNC2^6> Ben: Yes.
[19:37] <fantum13> Ben: Just ask :)
[19:37] <Palthron> Zinc : I'll try with command Split and Join first with file of the same size to see the speed
[19:38] <Ben> ok thanx :)
[19:38] <nickrud> Ben, yup, the only real rules is patience, family friendly language, and don't paste in the channel :)
[19:38] <Flare183> eckesicle: nl
[19:38] <Ben> ok
[19:38] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-557324.html
[19:38] <MisterChief> I read somewhere that after trying to install beryl if it won't load properly, there was a command to reset it all - does anyone know what that is?
[19:38] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, let's you run modprobe
[19:38] <Flare183> eckesicle: nl is the command you can use to find the number of lines in a file
[19:39] <eckesicle> before launching installer
[19:39] <eckesicle> Flare183, cheers
[19:39] <Flare183> eckesicle: no problem
[19:39] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay
[19:39] <eckesicle> jinxed-, I meant for you to go to the website
[19:39] <eckesicle>  http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:39] <jinxed-> alright
[19:39] <randorfer> misterchief explain your question a little more, do you mean that you tried loading up the beryl window manager and it crashed / didn't work well now you need to get back to metacity?  if that is the case alt + f2 and then  type metacity --replace
[19:39] <jinxed-> will give it a shot
[19:40] <eckesicle> jinxed-, good luck
[19:40] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, alright i'll give it a shot
[19:40] <Flare183> MisterChief: dude beryl is dead
[19:40] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, then modprobe vga_generic
[19:40] <Kubuntu-Gregg> hi - im using pan newsreader and it starts out downloading at a great speed and eventualy tails off till nothing is comming - restarting begins the process over again -- what can i do to resolve this and achieve proper download speeds
[19:40] <Flare183> !beryl | MisterChief
[19:40] <Palthron> Quick question : How do you check whether DMA is active and working or not? *stumbled in google*
[19:40] <ubotu> MisterChief: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[19:40] <Ben> Well I have a PC Laptop and have been trying to find some info on triple booting ubuntu xp and osx. All I find are tutorials for macintels. I want to know if those tutorials would work with pc the same or is there different procedures for pc's. Also what is the best bootloader for doing so.. would grub that comes with ubuntu be ok?
[19:40] <eckesicle> or generic_vga cant remember name exactly. will check it out
[19:40] <Generic> your kinky
[19:41] <MisterChief> That's probably why it won't work then
[19:41] <Goupil418> eckesicle, thanks for everything eckesicle ^_^
[19:41] <Palthron> Erm DMA solved
[19:41] <nickrud> Palthron, google to the rescue, I bet
[19:41] <Flare183> Ben: no possible
[19:41] <Flare183> not*
[19:41] <orionjoe> how's everyone doing? :D
[19:41] <chazco> Hi... can i make a persistent /dev/rfcomm0 ?
[19:41] <unknown512> Hello, can anyone help me start up ubuntu? i installed without using a disk
[19:42] <Palthron> nickrud : yes, after opening about 20 first results :P
[19:42] <unknown512> but the startx command won't work
[19:42] <fantum13> Ben: I dont' think its possible to run OS X on a normal PC.
[19:42] <mavi-> it is
[19:42] <kbrooks> max`, fantum13:
[19:42] <kbrooks> !legal
[19:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about legal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:42] <kbrooks> !piracy | max`
[19:42] <ubotu> max`: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[19:42] <MisterChief> Is there any way for me to reset the GNOME display manager so that it doesn't stay in low graphics mode and so that I can use the computer properly?
[19:42] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[19:42] <Ben> It is... for core2duos
[19:42] <kbrooks> !piracy | fantum13
[19:42] <ubotu> fantum13: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[19:42] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, at the bash with no keyboard =(
[19:42] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: To see if it's on.
[19:42] <orionjoe> is there an ubuntu equivalent to ctrl+alt+del for viewing and ending processes?
[19:42] <kbrooks> !piracy | Ben
[19:42] <ubotu> Ben: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[19:43] <randorfer> orionjoe gnome-system-monitor
[19:43] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, no keyboard?
[19:43] <fantum13> kbrooks: How is it piracy discussion to ask if its possible to run OS X on a non-apple computer?
[19:43] <orionjoe> is there a key command for it?
[19:43] <Palthron> Zinc : Yes, figured that out a while ago. But in my case, hdb1 (Primary slave)
[19:43] <Ben> piracy? who said its pirated?
[19:43] <kbrooks> fantum13, it is illegal to run Mac OS X on a PC last i heard
[19:43] <mavi-> no its not
[19:43] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Well, the general idea. :)
[19:43] <unknown512> I cant get to the desktop on Ubuntu, the Startx command will not work, i installed without using a disk
[19:43] <randorfer> fantum13 ben it is against the eula of mac to do so, thus illegal
[19:43] <Thorsten11> Hi all, I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.  I am running server 7.10 and just bought a samsung ml 2510.  I have no idea why i cannot get this printer to be recognized in webmin, anyone have an idea?
[19:43] <Flare183> orionjoe: ctl + escape i think
[19:44] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how can i setup PDF printer its not listed even thought i installed cups-pdf
[19:44] <Ben> so its legal to run xp on mac?
[19:44] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, it sent me to a small bash that didnt have my keyboard driver loaded yet
[19:44] <Flare183> Ben: yeap
[19:44] <kbrooks> Ben, it's legal to, yes
[19:44] <orionjoe> no, didn't work...
[19:44] <randorfer> ben yes it is because the xp eula is ok with that
[19:44] <fantum13> kbrooks: Do you call piracy on anyone who tries to run XP in a virtual machine? That's "illegal" too.
[19:44] <Flare183> Ben: but not the other way around
[19:44] <mavi-> anyway, installing osX is probably a topic for the OT channel
[19:44] <kbrooks> fantum13, not illegal
[19:44] <Ben> ok well i'll just scratch that idea lol
[19:44] <unknown512>  I cant get to the desktop on Ubuntu, the Startx command will not work, i installed without using a disk
[19:44] <randorfer> fantum13, no because that is not illegal, ie not against the eula
[19:44] <Flare183> unknown512: gdm
[19:44] <Ben> ok so i have another question about grub anyway
[19:44] <Palthron> All DMA active, so i guess i'll try some other splitter software (or upgradeeee)
[19:45] <orionjoe> because my comp froze earlier and i had to shut it down
[19:45] <unknown512> gdm?
[19:45] <osfameron> right... I'm opening gui applications from xubuntu launcher menus... and they aren't opening.  What should I check out to work out why?
[19:45] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, haha. man, that's shit. You don't have a generic keyboard...
[19:45] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: What's the exact filesize?
[19:45] <eckesicle> !language | eckesicle
[19:45] <unknown512> sorry im a linux newb =O
[19:45] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how can i setup PDF printer its not listed even thought i installed cups-pdf
[19:45] <unknown512> whats GDM
[19:45] <jinxed-> eckesicle, hey i am not sure what to do about the guide because I have two monitors
[19:45] <Kubuntu-Gregg> hi - im using pan newsreader and it starts out downloading at a great speed and eventualy tails off till nothing is comming - restarting begins the process over again -- what can i do to resolve this and achieve proper download speeds
[19:45] <kbrooks> eckesicle, dont abuse the bot please
[19:45] <Ben> so i already have xp and ubuntu dualbooting... I dont like how grub is so plain and would like a more graphical version. Is there one? and if so I dont know how to change the default booting os
[19:45] <puff> Every now and then, my alt-tab stops working.
[19:45] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, nope.. Logitech G15, i'll dig out my 10-year-old PS/2
[19:45] <Flare183> unknown512:gnome display manager
[19:46] <unknown512> I installed gnome
[19:46] <Palthron> Zinc : 4.6GB, beyond the FAT32 boundaries. But i'm using ext3
[19:46] <eckesicle> kbrooks, :) Says Mr. I think Grub is piracy
[19:46] <randorfer> Ben:  you can add splash images etc ...
[19:46] <unknown512> when i run the startx command it says im missing a directory
[19:46] <orionjoe> so is there a way to access GDM when your comp is frozen?
[19:46] <Ben> randorfer: really?
[19:46] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: So my current idea would be that software having trouble with >4GB files.
[19:46] <kbrooks> eckesicle, running grub is not pirating
[19:46] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, yeah it's probably faster than any workaround
[19:46] <NelsonUWP> can I change partition size?
[19:46] <rgnr> i made an executable and now i cannot execute it
[19:46] <randorfer> ben yes, really look at your menu.lst and read the comments ;-)
[19:46] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay hold on
[19:46] <unknown512> It says im missing the directory /etc/X11/X
[19:46] <jinxed-> eckesicle, alrighty
[19:46] <JC_Denton_>  Is there a vnc implementation for ubuntu that allows the server to contact the client?
[19:46] <TigranG> orionjoe: can you do ctrl+alt+f1 and then restart gdm?
[19:46] <rgnr> the file is owned by root
[19:46] <Flare183> !partition | NelsonUWP
[19:46] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, PS/2 keyboard works without a reboot, sweet
[19:46] <ubotu> NelsonUWP: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[19:47] <randorfer> ben sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:47] <rgnr> help
[19:47] <eckesicle> jinxed-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[19:47] <scguy318> JC_Denton_: well, I know that on Windows, the VNC Server can easily add a VNC listener, but I'm not sure how that's done on Linux
[19:47] <Ben> randorfer: nice and does it give instructions on changing default os?
[19:47] <unknown512> It says im missing the directory /etc/X11/X
[19:47] <Palthron> Zinc : Maybe, i'm googling for an alternative as i speak (erm... type :D )
[19:47] <NelsonUWP> what's a better program gparted or qtparted?
[19:47] <rgnr> and i got a lock evblem on it
[19:47] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, now for the problem, i don't remember what the generic vga driver is called
[19:47] <Flare183> !best
[19:47] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[19:47] <rgnr> HEEEEEEELP!
[19:47] <JC_Denton_> scguy318: On windows I use realvnc to let the server connect to the client
[19:47] <Flare183> !ask | rgnr
[19:47] <randorfer> Ben yes, if you cant understand what it is saying though ask back here and I will try to walk you through it
[19:47] <ubotu> rgnr: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:48] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Try RAR.
[19:48] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, maybe try modprobe vesa ?
[19:48] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, i thought it was called VESA, but the forum says pixx
[19:48] <unknown512> It says im missing the directory /etc/X11/X whenever i try to run the startx command
[19:48] <JC_Denton_> scguy318: it's because of both being behind a router and only one being configured properly - the client side
[19:48] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, piix*
[19:48] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Never used it on Linux, but there's a binary for it, apparently. And you can set compression to "Store", then just use it as a splitter.
[19:48] <Palthron> Zinc : erm... from rarlab?
[19:48] <Sea-light> hello:)
[19:48] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Yes.
[19:48] <randorfer> unknown512 pastebin you ~/.xinitrc file
[19:48] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, i think piix is only for intel but try it
[19:48] <Ben> randorfer: thanks i'll go aheady and try... but im on xp so i'll have to come back
[19:48] <unknown512> ?
[19:49] <Palthron> Zinc : not free nor opensource :(
[19:49] <unknown512> sorry Randorfer, im a lunix newb, i dont understand a lot of the terms yet
[19:49] <Flare183> Palthron: rar is free
[19:49] <randorfer> go to a command line and type gedit ~/.xinitrc file and pastebin it
[19:49] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, piix and vesa both gave me module not found
[19:49] <randorfer> !paste
[19:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:49] <ZiNC2^6> Palthron: Hmm... maybe p7zip then.
[19:49] <unknown512> k thanks ill give it a try
[19:49] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, i'm gonna try nv
[19:49] <MisterChief> I'll try rephrasing my question, I wrote it really badly last time XD : I tried downloading beryl (I was unaware at the time) but it didn't work, now that I try to boot up the computer it will only run in Low graphics mode with only terminal commands working, how can I fix this back to normal?
[19:49] <Palthron> Flare : It says Trial on the download page
[19:50] <Flare183> !rar | Palthron
[19:50] <ubotu> Palthron: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[19:50] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, nv is the open source nvidia driver which also was not found
[19:50] <Flare183> !info rar | Palthron
[19:50] <ubotu> palthron: rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7b1-2 (gutsy), package size 494 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[19:50] <randorfer> MisterChief sudo Xorg -configure on a commandline then ctrl + alt + backspace should do the trick
[19:50] <Flare183> Palthron: see?
[19:50] <orionjoe> ok, i did ctrl+alt+f1 but didn't know how to get back to gui, so i restarted...
[19:50] <dgjones> nuckinfuts, there seems to be a suggestion that installing nvidia-glx-new will solve the problem with your nvidia 8600gts - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=586536&highlight=nvidia+8600gts as an example
[19:50] <ZiNC2^6> !info grub4dos
[19:50] <ubotu> Package grub4dos does not exist in gutsy
[19:50] <randorfer> MisterChief after copying the file that Xorg -configure created to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:50] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, hmmm. Okay. Are we sure it's the graphics cards?
[19:51] <orionjoe> that was fun :P
[19:51] <Palthron> Flare : Hooo not RAR from rarlab... searching now, thx!
[19:51] <MisterChief> Okay thanks randorfer
[19:51] <Flare183> Palthron: no problem
[19:51] <TigranG> orionjoe: login in and then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:51] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, are they even detected? try lspci | grep nvidia
[19:51] <laptop_> I have an ATI video card and my comp always freezes, whats the fix?
[19:51] <randorfer> MisterChief, you should backup your old xorg.conf before you overwrite it also
[19:51] <jinxed-> eckesicle, when I did the Twinview thing
[19:51] <orionjoe> what would that do?
[19:51] <jinxed-> and ran gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:51] <Flare183> !who
[19:51] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:51] <jinxed-> it opened something up but there are no config options
[19:52] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, im assuming so, but the screen goes black so i cant really tell, SSH login doesnt work but idk if sshd is set to startup by default in ubuntu
[19:52] <Skitt> orionjoe, try ctrl + alt + f7 the next time to get back to your X-Desktop
[19:52] <orionjoe> i'm new to linux so using terminal is a little scary for me :p
[19:52] <unknown512> randorfor, i tried that getit thing, and it says theres no such command
[19:52] <xerxes1358> Doesnt Ubuntu recognize external USB drives automatically ?
[19:52] <laptop_> !flash
[19:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[19:52] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, were you on the live cd?
[19:52] <trx> Damn, biiig room!
[19:52] <orionjoe> what does that do skitt?
[19:52] <Flare183> !language > trx
[19:52] <randorfer> unknown512 its gedit
[19:53] <Skitt> you'll get back to the graphical desktop
[19:53] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, no liveCD blacked out too, i have an install with the text installation CD
[19:53] <unknown512> oooh k
[19:53] <orionjoe> ok, that's good to know
[19:53] <trx> Anyway, anyone use Lucks encrypted root device (installed from the alt installer CD) regularly?
[19:53] <randorfer> unknown512 if it says unknown using that do sudo apt-get install gedit
[19:53] <TigranG> orionjoe: when you do ctrl+alt+f1 login and then do that command I told you, it will get you back to the login screen
[19:53] <fantum13> trx: I do. Do you have a question?
[19:53] <MisterChief> randorfer - whats the command to backup the XOrg.conf?
[19:53] <orionjoe> so what's the key command for GDM in gui?
[19:53] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, jeez. When does it black out exactly?
[19:53] <orionjoe> oh ok
[19:53] <orionjoe> i should write that down...
[19:54] <randorfer> MisterChief sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[19:54] <TigranG> ;)
[19:54] <trx> fantum13, Yeah, it seems to only accept my password every X times, where X is random...
[19:54] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, right after the pretty ubuntu loading progress bar on bootup
[19:54] <NelsonUWP> why does gutsy freeze on me every once in a while?
[19:54] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5852
[19:54] <unknown512> randorfor, it says it cannot open display
[19:54] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, could this be it?
[19:54] <fantum13> trx: I've never had issues with it, but I probably haven't used it more than a hundred times. I installed it last week.
[19:54] <TigranG> NelsonUWP: are you using compiz?
[19:54] <randorfer> unknown512 alright try nano instead of gedit
[19:54] <jinxed-> eckesicle, I think I found the problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50894/    That happened when i tried to run the nvidia config
[19:54] <fantum13> trx: Do you have boot logging enabled?
[19:54] <trx> fantum13, Sometimes I start my lappy up and type the password at boot... and it boots 1st time. and sometimes I have to try like 20 times and reboot 5 times or so before it accepts the passwd and boots
[19:55] <NelsonUWP> tigrang: ?? how can i tel, i just installed it
[19:55] <fantum13> trx: Are you absolutely sure you're using the right password?
[19:55] <TigranG> NelsonUWP: Do you have the cool effects?
[19:55] <NelsonUWP> tigrang:  no
[19:55] <unknown512> randorfor, ok it opened a big black page
[19:55] <orionjoe> another question: i got a message saying my comp wasn't hibernating, how do i fix that?
[19:55] <unknown512> and it says new file down at the bottem
[19:55] <NelsonUWP> tigrang: i thought it has something to do with my ati card
[19:55] <TigranG> NelsonUWP: Then its not turned on, and idk, I've just heard people have problems with compiz and gutsy
[19:55] <unknown512> what do i do at this point?
[19:55] <randorfer> unknown512 alright type exec gnome-session
[19:56] <trx> fantum13, Definatley... Have even added a 2nd password through the LUCKS tools which is so simpe to double check
[19:56] <Flare183> orionjoe: install hibernate
[19:56] <randorfer> unknown save and exit and now try startx
[19:56] <trx> *simple
[19:56]  * dr_willis thinks that compiz IS a problem. :)
[19:56] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay. try lspci | grep nvidia
[19:56] <NelsonUWP> !qtparted
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <orionjoe> easy enough :D
[19:56] <UBUNTUISLOVED> how can i setup PDF printer its not listed in add printers?
[19:56] <orionjoe> ok, thanks :D
[19:56] <randorfer> unknown512 (save + exit is accomplished by pressing ctrl x and accepting)
[19:56] <orionjoe> i've got some reading up to do about ubuntu so I'll be back with questions :D
[19:56] <orionjoe> thanks for the help all!
[19:56] <Flare183> !cupspdf | UBUNTUISLOVED
[19:56] <ubotu> UBUNTUISLOVED: Details on setting up "Print to PDF" are at http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[19:57] <jinxed-> eckesicle, i typed it in.... was something supose to happen?
[19:57] <fantum13> trx: Do you have boot logging enabled?
[19:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> doesnt work Flare already been there
[19:57] <unknown512> randorfor how do i save it?
[19:57] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, create new printer device-uri should be cups-pdf://
[19:57] <unknown512> oh
[19:57] <unknown512> k
[19:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> RunAsUser is not in the /etc file
[19:57] <UBUNTUISLOVED> ahh
[19:57] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, i managed to get "recovery mode" booted fine, should i just try to installed the nvidia proprietary drivers? i ahve them on a usb stick
[19:57] <eckesicle> jinxed-, yes do you see anything?
[19:57] <MisterChief> randorfer: I tried the sudo Xorg -configure and then ctrl alt backspace, nothing happened
[19:57] <Flare183> UBUNTUISLOVED: that's you
[19:57] <jinxed-> eckesicle, no
[19:57] <Flare183> UBUNTUISLOVED: you are the user
[19:58] <jinxed-> eckesicle, it didn't give any errors through it just ran and nothing happened
[19:58] <randorfer> MisterChief, Xorg -configure should have told you that it made a file (probably in ~/xorg.conf.new ) you need to move that file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:58] <eckesicle> jinxed okay then ubuntu does not detect your nvidia graphics cards
[19:59] <MisterChief> randorfer: done that
[19:59] <eckesicle> jinxed-, maybe my bad. try to do: lspci -v | grep nvidia
[19:59] <unknown512> randorfor, "cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or directory exists"
[19:59] <randorfer> unknown512 try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:59] <unknown512> k
[20:00] <randorfer> MisterChief pastebin your xorg.conf file
[20:00] <MisterChief> I cant
[20:00] <jinxed-> eckesicle, still nothing... when I go to Administration -> Restricted drivers it has Nvidia
[20:00] <eckesicle> jinxed-, what it does is list all your PCI devices and output them then it filters for nvidia, so if you have no nvidia then no lspci
[20:00] <MisterChief> The computer can't access the internet, it's still in low graphics with only terminal
[20:00] <usr13> Nvidia driver for: [GeForce4 MX 4000] - HowTo?
[20:00] <unknown512> randorfor, alright its installing
[20:00] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay. Are the nvidia cards AGP?
[20:01] <eckesicle> !nvidia | usr13
[20:01] <ubotu> usr13: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:01] <jinxed-> eckesicle, oh... does it matter that I have a laptop
[20:01] <usr13> eckesicle: Tnx
[20:01] <eckesicle> jinxed-, don't think so
[20:01] <deniz_> any1 here use firestarter to share an internet connection?
[20:01] <jinxed-> no I have my specs right here printed I have a 16X PCI-Express NVIDIA Geforce Go 6600 128 mb Video
[20:01] <alsadk10> how installing skystar 2 on ubuntu?
[20:01] <jinxed-> eckesicle, if you want I will give you remote desktop acess
[20:02] <kbrooks> question: what is the command to find out a package that installs a particular file
[20:02] <TigranG> jinxed: its lspci -v | grep nVidia (case sensitive)
[20:02] <Laurenceb> hi all
[20:02] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, no that link was a BIOS issue that Abit motherboards had
[20:02] <eckesicle> alsadk10, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-60549.html
[20:02] <eckesicle> alsadk10, sorry wrong link
[20:02] <jinxed-> i will give it a try TigranG
[20:02] <eckesicle> alsadk10, nope it was the right one
[20:02] <Laurenceb> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an acer aspire 5101
[20:02] <Laurenceb> how do I get into bios?
[20:02] <eckesicle> TigranG, thx
[20:03] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: ok so i added this in cups control panel as a printer where does the file go?
[20:03] <kbrooks> i need to remove a package which contains a suid binary
[20:03] <Spl33n> are irc logs for #ubuntu channel available anywhere on web?
[20:03] <jinxed-> eckesicle, TigranG it worked: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce Go 6600] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[20:03] <randorfer> Laurenceb push f2 when it is starting up
[20:03] <dee> Does anybody know how to replace "&#195;&#164;" by "ä" with sed or something like it?
[20:03] <kbrooks> question: what is the command to find out a package that installs a particular file?
[20:03] <Laurenceb> ok thanx
[20:03] <randorfer> laurenceb (when you see the acer screen on startup)
[20:03] <Laurenceb> I tried f11 and f8
[20:03] <randorfer> laurenceb pretty sure its f2 (it is on my acer)
[20:03] <robdeman> folsk how do I configure Postfix to use Procmail?
[20:03] <Laurenceb> cya in a bit (hopefullt running ubuntu)
[20:04] <MisterChief> randorfer: I can't pastebin xorg.conf as I can't access the internet on the computer, only terminal
[20:04] <dgjones> !logs | Spl33n
[20:04] <ubotu> Spl33n: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[20:04] <TigranG> eckesicle now you can go back to helping jinxed-, dunno what the problem was
[20:04] <ghost> hello there
[20:04] <TechRavingMad> I'm having an issue with a 7600GS install and using the nvidia drivers, I've tried everything including envy
[20:04] <lostsanity> so, quick question, is 32 any more stable in some situations than 64 bit OS-wise?
[20:04] <RyanPrior> What is a good MP3 player for compatibility with Ubuntu and free formats like Ogg and FLAC?
[20:04] <TechRavingMad> anybody think they can help?
[20:04] <randorfer> misterchief try typing firefox &
[20:04] <Spl33n> dgjones: thanks ubotu: thanks
[20:04] <nickrud> kbrooks, dpkg -S /path/to/file if the package is installed, other wise install apt-file or search on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:05] <NaNO2x> hello, i'm having an issue with my cd/dvd drive not being able to read anything at boot time and now not being able to read some things while started up, i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction?
[20:05] <jinxed-> TigranG, I am trying to fix my resolution... when i tried to use Nvidia to configure settings i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50894/
[20:05] <MisterChief> randorfer: Gtk warning: cannot open display:
[20:05] <jinxed-> well fix resolution and get Twinview (dual monitor) working
[20:05] <randorfer> misterchief sigh alright then back to ground one lol
[20:05] <Skitt> lostsanity, they shouldn't be any differences, 64 needs sometimes some extra care if you have to install 32bit things (eg flash)
[20:05] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: ok so i added this in cups control panel as a printer where does the file go?
[20:05] <eckesicle> jinxed-, did you follow instructions at ubuntuforums about dual moniors?
[20:05] <randorfer> misterchief have you ever looked at a xorg.conf file before ?
[20:06] <ben> How do I disable cube-rotate when scrolling the mouse-wheel on the desktop
[20:06] <ben> ?
[20:06] <RyanPrior> NaNO2x: I had that problem with my laptop recently and it turned out that my motherboard was going bad. It's probably a hardware issue if it's unable to read things at boot time.
[20:06] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what file?
[20:06] <TechRavingMad> I'm working on just a single monitor
[20:06] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, heh out of ideas too? =P
[20:06] <jgoo> what-ho chaps. Blender 2.44 crashes with graphical glitches when I create a camera. #blender says upgrade to 2.45, which I did. It still crashes. Also the top menu shows through the top menu of the blender app (the network box etc) - should I disable... 3d desktop in gnome?? halpz!
[20:06] <jinxed-> eckesicle, yeah thats how I ended up with the error that i copied the url to in the pastebin
[20:06] <kaed> Bonsoie
[20:06] <NaNO2x> motherboard...GAH
[20:06] <UBUNTUISLOVED> the pdf i printed? its not under /home/jason nor /home/jason/PDF
[20:06] <MisterChief> randorfer: no
[20:06] <kaed> bonsoir*
[20:06] <nekohayo> hey there, anyone knows how to change the keyboard layout used in the TTY consoles?
[20:06] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, in console type lp -d PDF filename
[20:06] <nekohayo> kaed: il y a #ubuntu-fr :)
[20:06] <RyanPrior> jgoo: If disabling 3d desktop works, do it. Compiz is still considered somewhat experimental, and it is not nearly as mature and stable as Metacity.
[20:06] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay
[20:07] <NaNO2x> i figured it was a hardware issue, what about the issue of not reading things while booted, specifically recently it was a dvd
[20:07] <jgoo> RyanPrior: what is the cleanest way? I have ccsm installed
[20:07] <RyanPrior> What is a good MP3 player for compatibility with Ubuntu and free formats like Ogg and FLAC?
[20:07] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, did it not work to copy propriatary drivers on flash?
[20:07] <TigranG> jinxed-: you have the nvidia driver installed tho?
[20:07] <randorfer> Misterchief try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:07] <jinxed-> TigranG, yes i believe so
[20:07] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Go in your desktop effects menu and disable the desktop effects there. Your desktop will automatically revert to Metacity.
[20:07] <jinxed-> there is a check in the restricted drivers
[20:07] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: No such file or directory
[20:08] <tofaffy> My jump drive's mount point has a lock symbol on it...so when I try and change the permissions by right clicking and going to Properties>Permissions it says I can't change it because it's a read only disk...
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: System -> Preferences -> Appearance, Desktop Effects
[20:08] <jgoo> desktop effects menu brings up ccsm I think
[20:08] <tofaffy> How do I fix that?
[20:08] <TechRavingMad> My issue is that when I enable the nvidia driver on reboot the screen flashes the black scrren with lines of text three times and then goes to low graphics mode
[20:08] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, im trying to mount it but the bash won't believe me that it is -t vfat =X
[20:08] <Lr5___> Anyone knows how to solve bad sound quality in the nonfree flash plugin?
[20:08] <Nirevus> A friend of mine is trying to install Ubuntu from the LiveCD onto a fairly old machine with an IDE hard drive. The first time, it booted up to the desktop, he begun the installation and choose to format the whole disk. During the "setting up file systems" operation it errored and told him it was unable to setup file systems. He restarted to start from scratch, at which pointed it started giving him hundreds of errors like these: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[20:08] <Nirevus> /3309/
[20:08] <TigranG> jinxed: well, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[20:08] <Nirevus> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3309/
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Bring up the Visual Effects menu under Appearance.
[20:08] <MisterChief> randorfer: "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?"
[20:08] <randorfer> yes
[20:08] <jgoo> aaah ok RyanPrior, that worked, I was using the advanced effects menu item
[20:08] <TigranG> jinxed-: I'll try to get your resolution fixed and then you can try getting dualview set up again
[20:08] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Now try Blender again and see if it's fixed.
[20:09] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, do you not have cups installed?
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, sounds good
[20:09] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the X server driver be ati?
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, would it be easier for you if I just gave you remote acess to my computer?
[20:09] <trx> Nirevus, I'd say it looks like the drive is on the way out / IDE cable dodgey
[20:09] <UBUNTUISLOVED> i reach cups fine through localhost:631
[20:09] <randorfer> MisterChief do you have an ati card (if so yes)
[20:09] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, filename is supposed to be the file you want to print to pdf btw
[20:09] <TigranG> jinxed-: no need to
[20:09] <eckesicle> PDF the name of the printer you added
[20:09] <jgoo> RyanPrior: oh noes. still crashes
[20:09] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: understand but get error
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, ok
[20:09] <MisterChief> randofer: pretty sure, I'll go with that then
[20:09] <Lr5___> Nirevus: That looks bad, maybe try adding "irqpoll" to boot options
[20:09] <jinxed-> TigranG, how do i get that file you want?
[20:09] <trx> Nirevus, Does the System have a SMART enabled bios? If so, what does the Smart status for the drive say at bootup?
[20:10] <eckesicle> jinxed-, what is your display called in X config?
[20:10] <Nirevus> trx: That's what I said, but he wanted a second opinion as it's all running from LiveCD, so he couldn't work out what
[20:10] <TigranG> jinxed-: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: request id is PDF-105 (1 file(s)) ok got it
[20:10] <Nirevus> trx: The hard drive would be used for when booting the livecd
[20:10] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the Identifier for your video card be the default?
[20:10] <UBUNTUISLOVED> wheres the pdf?
[20:10] <Lr5___> Nirevus: I had similar problem and "irqpoll" solved it, but I have no idea what it actually does
[20:10] <Nirevus> Lr5___: I'll get him to try that
[20:10] <RyanPrior> jgoo: Well, it's probably not a problem with Compiz then.
[20:10] <randorfer> MisterCheif yes (usually you can choose default)
[20:10] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay good. Should be in same folder as file
[20:10] <patrick_> hey all im runnin 7.10 and to play runescape i had to download and install the java plugin, which i did. but i cannot type in my username or password any ideas??
[20:10] <zcat[1]> Nirevus: make sure none of the plugs have been pulled partly out of socket; if you're working on a machine this can often happen.. then download ultimate boot CD perhaps and run manufacturers diagnostics ?
[20:10] <jgoo> Good try though RyanPrior, thanks
[20:11] <MisterChief> randorfer: Video Card's Bus Identifier?
[20:11] <randorfer> MisterCheif stick with what it gave you for a default
[20:11] <MisterChief> Okay
[20:11] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, its reading my vista partition, so im gonna boot into vista and drop it on that partition
[20:11] <Nirevus> zcat[1]: I would, but I'm sitting 20 minutes away, and trying to walk him through it when the computer he is trying to install Ubuntu on is 2 floors below
[20:11] <usr13> Tnx patrick_ Why are you unable to type in user and pass?
[20:11] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, apparently not. I don't know where it goes.
[20:11] <jinxed-> TigranG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50895/
[20:11] <MisterChief> randorfer: Amount of memory to be used by the video card? Nothing is there at the moment
[20:11] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Perhaps you need to install Windows fonts for the text to show up. Sort of a wild guess, though.
[20:11] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, okay sounds like an idea
[20:12] <randorfer> MisterChief you can leave that blank
[20:12] <MisterChief> Okay
[20:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: ls: *.pdf: No such file or directory i tried adding a printer and i get password prompt and i cant add a printer?
[20:12] <jinxed-> eckesicle, I think it is called "Generic Monitor" or something I don't know... my X config got reset following the instructions on the link you sent me
[20:12] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay i don't know. If your X config is correct you have to ask someone else
[20:12] <patrick_> ryanprior_: i was typing fine when i first logged in, now it wont work
[20:12] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i wonder if my permissions are screwed up
[20:12] <MisterChief> randorfer: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[20:12] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no if you got the message about request id the file should be printed
[20:12] <randorfer> MisterChief yes
[20:13] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Is it only the Java applet that's having a problem, or other applications as well?
[20:13] <robdeman> anybody here that could jumpstart me: how do I get Postfix to use Procmail?
[20:13] <MisterChief> randorfer: should it be yes to all of them then?
[20:13] <kr00l> Some help please. I'm using a ubuntu live cd on a Dell 4300 and get's past the load bar. Then it tries to bring up the desktop but hangs. It never goes into the desktop where you can actually install ubuntu. Any suggestions. I've tried ubuntu and edubuntu
[20:13] <patrick_> ryanprior:only the when i try to type in my username and password for runescape
[20:13] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, i think the file ends up in ~
[20:13] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i have this in logs Get-Subscriptions client-error-not-found
[20:13] <randorfer> MisterChief, pretty much just whatever it default to until you get to your screen resolution, then select what you want using the space bar
[20:13] <MisterChief> The default is No
[20:13] <Generic> sometimes I just wonder why I had to pick the username Generic
[20:14] <ricardofloyd> buenas
[20:14] <zcat[1]> kr00l: how much memory in the machine? lots >256M ?
[20:14] <kr00l> 126
[20:14] <RyanPrior> patrick_: Have you already tried the easy stuff like restarting your web browser and so on?
[20:14] <ricardofloyd> alguien que hable spanish
[20:14] <randorfer> MisterChief, then the answer should be no probably
[20:14] <dee> Does anybody know how to replace "&#195;&#164;" by "ä" with sed or something like it?
[20:14] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[20:14] <puff> Wht does it mean when my mouse pointer turns into a double-ended verticale arrow
[20:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: known bug but i refuse to update because last time it killed my sound
[20:14] <usr13> kr00l: You either have a hardware issue (something needs fixing or re-configuring), or you need to use alternative CD.
[20:14] <kr00l> zcat[1]: 126
[20:14] <zcat[1]> kr00l: 128M? you need to be using alternate CD then
[20:14] <patrick_> ryanprior: ya and i've restarted my computer, still no luck,  im trying again
[20:14] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/+bug/145772
[20:14] <Wips> Okey, so I try to add a new user writing: "sudo smbpasswd -a user1" and I enter a password twice. But when I Enter the last time it tells me that it fails to modify the password entry for the new user.
[20:14] <eckesicle> jinxed-, okay so it's probably not that then
[20:14] <usr13> kr00l: What is your hardware?
[20:14] <amed> jajajajaja
[20:14] <RyanPrior> puff: It means resize vertically, which can be used on many windows.
[20:14] <TigranG> jinxed-: try doing this, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back then log out and login to a terminal session and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and then type exit and login normally. This should fix resolution. If you can't login, from a terminal just do sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <hinotf> hi all
[20:14] <NaNO2x> anyone know of a good asus channel or somewhere where laptop hardware questions could be asked?
[20:15] <MisterChief> randorfer: should the mouse port be /dev/input/mice?
[20:15] <puff> RyanPrior: What does it mean when it does that and alt-tab stops working, and minimize the window doesn't work, and the auto-unhide taskbar doesn't work?
[20:15] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: is there a way i can rollback updates if they screw up?
[20:15] <RyanPrior> NaNO2x: #hardware
[20:15] <randorfer> MisterChief: yes
[20:15] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay I think I have misunderstood your problem bigtime. Do you want to print a pdf or print to pdf
[20:15] <eckesicle> ?
[20:15] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: 30gb hdd, 128mb Ram, ethernet card, AGP video card. CD/Rom
[20:15] <patrick_> ryanprior: for some reason now it works haha, ill come back if i have more probs thanks
[20:15] <puff> Man, this is insanely frustrating.
[20:15] <puff> Guess I'll try a reboot and see if that helps.
[20:15] <RyanPrior> puff: That means something is wrong. :-P
[20:15] <usr13> kr00l: What rpocessor?
[20:15] <jinxed-> TigranG, ok give me a second
[20:15] <hinotf> why Tracker not indexing ntfs disk?
[20:16] <usr13> kr00l: What video card?
[20:16] <MisterChief> randorfer: method for selecting the monitor characteristics?
[20:16] <RyanPrior> patrick_: I'm glad it ended up working out. :-)
[20:16] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: sorry your right i want to print to PDF
[20:16] <randorfer> MisterChief simple / easy (can't remember what it says exactly)
[20:16] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: P4, idk the video card hope it's not ati. The mouse works right now just no desktop
[20:16] <zcat[1]> kr00l: you won't be able to run the live cd installer in 128M ram.. I'm not sure even xubuntu will run too well in 128M .. you might need more, or try a lighter linux. You won't be able to boot any of the live CD's in that I don't think
[20:17] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay very good. I do not know of a way to rollback updates
[20:17] <kbrooks> um, how do i reinstall ubuntu-minimal without reinstalling eject
[20:17] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Xubuntu runs fine on 128M.
[20:17] <usr13> kr00l: what speed is the processor?
[20:17] <MisterChief> randorfer: write monitor sync ranges to the configuration file?
[20:17] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[20:17] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: possible to image HDD on different pc then put back on the 128mb ram computer?
[20:17] <randorfer> MisterChief yes
[20:17] <zcat[1]> RyanPrior: ahh, good.. wasn't sure it was that light..
[20:17] <jinxed-> TigranG, when you say log out and login to a terminal session do you mean open up a terminal window? or do i have to do something else?
[20:17] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Especially if you install in text-mode. Once it's installed, it runs snappy in 128m.
[20:17] <kbrooks> is there a option to apt-get to do that
[20:17] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: P4 1.5
[20:17] <xerxes1358> Does Ubuntu recognize external USB drives automatically ?
[20:17] <MisterChief> randorfer: color depth in bits?
[20:17] <nuckinfuts> anyone remember the file in /etc that stores the default boot runlevel? drawing a total blank trying to think of it
[20:18] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: Installing in graphical mode can take a long time and be frustrating.
[20:18] <randorfer> MisterChief 24
[20:18] <Skitt> xerxes1358, normally yes
[20:18] <zcat[1]> kr00l: yes, I've done installs that way in the past.. usually you need to reconfigure X afterwards, but otherwise it works really well
[20:18] <usr13> kr00l: try Ctrl-Alt-F1    and then do:  less /proc/cpuinfo
[20:18] <TigranG> jinxed-: logout and click sessions, and choose the one that says terminal (forgot exact name)
[20:18] <jinxed-> ok
[20:18] <usr13> kr00l: and then:  lspci
[20:18] <xerxes1358> Skitt, what should I see ?
[20:18] <RyanPrior> xerxes1358: Yes, Ubuntu should automatically recognize and mount your USB drive.
[20:19] <jgoo> I have an app (blender 2.45) that just dies immediately when I do something... which logs could I look at to find out why?
[20:19] <eckesicle> Okay time for me to go to bed. Goodnight all.
[20:19] <jgoo> it could be graphic card driver
[20:19] <usr13> kr00l: [press ENTER after commands]
[20:19] <Jaymac> has anyone got a working XGL/Compiz setup with DirectRendering (ATI card)
[20:19] <unknown512> randorfer, if you are still here, i would like to thank you so much =D its all better now
[20:19] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: nothing, i'll get more ram for it
[20:19] <RyanPrior> xerxes1358: It should show up in Places -> Computer, and it should pop up a folder on your desktop when you plug it in.
[20:19] <Jaymac> installed a few games via wine and they all complain about xfree86-dri
[20:19] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: or try DSL
[20:19] <randorfer> unknown512 your welcome ;-) glad it worked out for yo
[20:19] <randorfer> u
[20:19] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i tried that doesnt have any files in the home folder nor root
[20:19] <MisterChief> randorfer: it says at the bottom now: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081015201810" then underneath is the normal terminal command prompt
[20:19] <xerxes1358> And what if the USB drive doesnt show up?
[20:19] <unknown512> now i just gotta install wine and im good to go, and i know how to do that
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358,
[20:20] <zcat[1]> kr00l: something like feather or puppy or dsl might suit you better. xubuntu should run in that memory too..
[20:20] <unknown512> i am going to connect to IRC through the linux computer now
[20:20] <unknown512> bye
[20:20] <randorfer> MisterChief type gnome-session at the command prompt
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358, does it appear in lsusb ?
[20:20] <RyanPrior> !google | Jaymac
[20:20] <ubotu> Jaymac: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[20:20] <zcat[1]> .. just the live installer won't run so well in it
[20:20] <xerxes1358> No I dont think so
[20:20] <randorfer> MisterChief and cross your fingers
[20:20] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: what about koppix
[20:20] <mhiku> how to install default font for tightvnc to work?
[20:20] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, thanks for your patronism, and yes I have checked google
[20:20] <RyanPrior> kr00l: Xubuntu will install better if you use the Alternate Install CD.
[20:20] <Skitt> xerxes1358, do you think or do you know? ^^
[20:21] <zcat[1]> not sure where knoppix is at these days..
[20:21] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it ends up in /home/yourname/PDF
[20:21] <xerxes1358> Skitt, I am not sure Let me paste it
[20:21] <MisterChief> randorfer: "(gnome-session:6324): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[20:21] <jgoo> ok so I found out blender is segfaulting...where could the core dump be?
[20:21] <RyanPrior> kr00l: I have personally used the Alternate Install CD to install Xubuntu on old laptops before. Once it's installed, it runs well.
[20:21] <Lr5___> What's the http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ targeted for? Can it be used as a general paste bin, or should it be used only if needed here?
[20:21] <nekohayo> hey there, anyone knows how to change the keyboard layout used in the TTY consoles?
[20:21] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: that directory is missing i'll create it
[20:21] <randorfer> MisterCheif try restarting the comp
[20:21] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: the terminal came up on my screen what should i do?
[20:21] <MisterChief> randorfer: okay
[20:21] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: That's an important first step. It looks like there's a lot of information about XFree86-dri out there. What specific problem are you having?
[20:21] <usr13> kr00l: lspci
[20:22] <usr13> kr00l: [ENTER]
[20:22] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no need to. Type instead lpstat
[20:22] <MisterChief> Hoping for the best :D
[20:22] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14150
[20:22] <RyanPrior> jgoo: That's a good question for #blender
[20:22] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, any 3d games will not work when I have XGL running - seems to be a problem for many people.. Error message: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[20:22] <usr13> kr00l:  And, tell us what video card you have.
[20:23] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: Does that mean they work better when you don't have XGL running?
[20:23] <jinxed-> TigranG, I did what you said... but I am still stuck in 800 x 600
[20:23] <Jaymac> RyanPrior, they work.
[20:23] <jgoo> RyanPrior: ah so it is different per app? ok. I am asking there too - I thought it could be somewhere ubuntu specific
[20:23] <MisterChief> randorfer: back to the "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"
[20:23] <MisterChief> :(
[20:24] <KinPumpkinKing> I'm plugging my mp5 in my USB but nothing happens. how do I manage the files in it?
[20:24] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, still there?
[20:24] <RhinoAK> I have a nubee question
[20:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea
[20:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: didnt help
[20:24] <eckesicle> type lpstat
[20:24] <RyanPrior> Jaymac: In that case, it sounds like a bug with XGL. I've had lots of problems with XGL too, so I stopped usingit.
[20:24] <aro> Anyone want to suggest a PCMCIA wireless card (802.11g) for a 5 year old laptop that has been proven to work with Ubuntu reliably?
[20:24] <eckesicle> what do you see?
[20:24] <RhinoAK> how do you start x from command line
[20:24] <randorfer> MisterChief:  try editing the xorg.conf file -- nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing where it says ati to vesa
[20:24] <eckesicle> RhinoAK, startx
[20:24] <RyanPrior> RhinoAK: startx
[20:25] <Palthron> quick yes-no-faster-than-googling question : does the trash icon and context menu reflect the trash directory from USB Flash Drive?
[20:25] <RyanPrior> RhinoAK: I know, you never would have guessed. =P
[20:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: http://pastebin.com/d5ab8794c
[20:25] <ompaul> !ask | RhinoAK
[20:25] <jinxed-> TigranG, you there?
[20:25] <kr00l> zcat[1] / usr13: it's a ram problem, thanks for all your help. I got Koppix working. I'll have to order more ram online. 512 will work right?
[20:25] <ubotu> RhinoAK: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:25] <RyanPrior> Palthron: If you want quick answers, you're going to have to ask understandable questions.
[20:25] <jinxed-> eckesicle, what was that link you gave me with how to do dual monitor?
[20:25] <Skitt> xerxes1358, whats the output of dmesg after pluging the device in
[20:26] <GHOST> is anyone know why the flash player ofenly crash ty?
[20:26] <isotop`> how do i change a uuid for a block device?
[20:26] <nosmofui> how can i see the pictures when a want to upload them from firefix in gnome??
[20:26] <isotop`> i have 2 block devices with the same uuid
[20:26] <randorfer> Ghost check the topic of this channel, its broken for ubuntu atm
[20:26] <MisterChief> randorfer: changed, how to save and exit?
[20:26] <Palthron> RyanPrior : The trash icon on the desktop show that it is empty when it is actually contained deleted items from a removable drive. Is this normal behaviour?
[20:26] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, when you type lpstat what do you see? can you paste the output here for me
[20:26] <dgjones> !hcl | aro, this is probably your best bet on finding the right hardware, I use two Belkin pcmcia cards, one is atheros based, the other is broadcom 4306, the atheros works out of the box, the other works perfectly with about 3 mouse clicks using restricted drivers
[20:26] <ubotu> aro, this is probably your best bet on finding the right hardware, I use two Belkin pcmcia cards, one is atheros based, the other is broadcom 4306, the atheros works out of the box, the other works perfectly with about 3 mouse clicks using restricted drivers: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[20:26] <GHOST> randorfer ok thank you
[20:26] <randorfer> MisterCheif ctrl + x
[20:26] <RhinoAK> thanks ubotu:
[20:27] <eckesicle> jinxed-, I googled for ubuntu dual monitor
[20:27] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: no output
[20:27] <aro> Thankd dgjones
[20:27] <RyanPrior> Palthron: The trashed items on the removable drive should be stored in its top-level .trash folder
[20:27] <Lifeisfunny> my USB stick is labeled disk, how can I change it to USB-stick  or something?
[20:27] <MisterChief> randorfer: same file name?
[20:27] <Trae> man
[20:27] <randorfer> MisterChief yep
[20:27] <RyanPrior> Lifeisfunny: With GParted, I think. Give it a new disk label.
[20:27] <Trae> my machine has come to a screeching halt
[20:27] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what is this a paste of?
[20:27] <Lifeisfunny> RyanPrior, thanks, I'll try it
[20:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle:  tail /var/log/messages
[20:28] <MisterChief> randorfer: "error writing /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission Denied
[20:28] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it is perfectly normal
[20:28] <RhinoAK> none of the commands suggested work
[20:28] <Palthron> RyanPrior : Yes the trash folder is there and working as it should, but the icon and context menu on the desktop and taskbar always show the wrong state (Empty icon and 'Empty Trash' option disabled when it actually contain files and available only through Nautilus
[20:28] <RhinoAK> I'm using 6.06 LTS
[20:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: i have to do a reboot for sys updates so i'll be right back
[20:28] <randorfer> alright we forgot to do sudo, so do ctrl + x and say no to saving then do sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace ati with vesa again
[20:29] <RyanPrior> Palthron: That might be a bug. Report it in Launchpad.
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, but you see nothing at all when you type lpstat? very strange. If you go to System->Admin->Printing
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, no hurry to reboot
[20:29] <RhinoAK> I'm sudo
[20:29] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, what printers do you see?
[20:29] <Palthron> RyanPrior : Will do. Thank you.
[20:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i see pdf
[20:29] <mboman> when I try to modprobe usb-storage the prompt just hangs (Ubuntu 7.10 fully up-to-date)
[20:29] <MisterChief> randorfer: done
[20:29] <eckesicle> okay but nothing when you type lpstat in the terminal window?
[20:29] <randorfer> now try restarting again
[20:30] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yea i see but i cant change anything since it wants a password and it refuses to allow any pass i enter
[20:30] <nuckinfuts> eckesicle, nothing is working
[20:30] <randorfer> MisterChief and make sure you cross your fingers this time
[20:30] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, it is your root password
[20:30] <isotop`> how do i solve a uuid conflict?
[20:30] <Trae> I originally had Ubuntu 7.10 plain (gnome)  and installed KDE packages ... is there a way I can just remove all the KDE stuff I think it's bogging my system down (and have GDM launch etc)
[20:30] <eckesicle> nuckinfuts, im sorry i don't know what to suggest. Sorry I could not be of more help
[20:31] <n6hgg> Thorsten11: might take a little google digging to find out how to install them.
[20:31] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, do you know your root password?
[20:31] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: doesnt accept it yes i use it daily
[20:31] <randorfer> nuckinfuts what is your problem??
[20:31] <Sooz> hello
[20:31] <MisterChief> randorfer: back to the "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode"
[20:31] <TigranG> jinxed-: Sorry. I was afk
[20:32] <randorfer> MisterChief Gah! Sorry mate but I don't know what to tell you at this point
[20:32] <Sooz> please can any1 help me? I lost grub due to a wxp installation
[20:32] <Sooz> how can i get it back
[20:32] <Sooz> ?
[20:32] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, now in both runlevel 5 and 3, screen goes black where gdm should kick in(even in runlevel 3 somehow)
[20:32] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, and this is in the printing dialogue?
[20:32] <TigranG> jinxed-: are you using the restricted driver or open source
[20:32] <napsy_> Hello. I have an intel HD audio chip on my laptop and when I plug the headphones the laptop speakers don't mute. How can I fix this?
[20:32] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14151
[20:32] <randorfer> nuckinfuts you have gdm in your initd scrpits right?
[20:33] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yes
[20:33] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, this is a fresh install from Alternate install CD, LiveCD had the same issue, im currently sitting at a runlevel 1 recovery prompt
[20:33] <RhinoAK> sorry I have the 6.0 server version running LAMP
[20:33] <randorfer> nuckingfuts what happens when you type gnome-session
[20:33] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, i'd assume so since i haven't changed them
[20:33] <eckesicle> napsy_, it is a bit silly but that is the default set up in ubuntu. You can mute the speakers by doubleclicking on the top bar the volume icon. and then muting front speakers
[20:33] <Sooz> somebody can help me please?
[20:33] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, okay that is very weird.
[20:33] <RhinoAK> I don't think X11 is supported when LAMP is turned on
[20:34] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, "GTK-warning **: cannot open display"
[20:34] <randorfer> nuckinfuts are you root right now?
[20:34] <napsy_> eckesicle: if I mute the front the sound on the headphones mute as well
[20:34] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, yes
[20:34] <UBUNTUISLOVED> eckesicle: yes i agree ive never seen this before
[20:34] <randorfer> nuckinfuts try su yournormaluser
[20:35] <RhinoAK> Is there another way for me to run the desktop manager
[20:35] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, i don't have a darn clue why it does that. But at least you can see the name of the printer? Set the PDF printer to the default one then
[20:35] <randorfer> nuckinfuts then gnome-session
[20:35] <xerxes1358> Skitt, and anything new you can see ?
[20:35] <eckesicle> napsy_, there should be a tab called Switches
[20:35] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, same error
[20:35] <eckesicle> napsy_, go there and click in headphones
[20:36] <gordon> I have a shell script which runs an interactive command line program, how do I make a desktop shortcut open a terminal to run said program?
[20:36] <napsy_> eckesicle: in the Switches tab I have "IEC985", "Caller ID" and "Off-hook"
[20:36] <Wh00p> http://bruhhe.myminicity.com/ind tyvm (:
[20:36] <randorfer> nuckinfuts eckesicle already had you redo your xorg.conf file right?
[20:36] <eckesicle> UBUNTUISLOVED, then try echo "test" > test.txt; lp test.txt
[20:36] <eckesicle> randorfer, no. he's on live cd
[20:36] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, no but i checked it, it was originally loading the nv driver, i switched it to vesa with no difference
[20:36] <trx> eckesicle, or just echo "test" | lp
[20:37] <eckesicle> trx: even better. cheers
[20:37] <randorfer> nuckinfuts try doing sudo Xorg -configure
[20:37] <trx> np :)
[20:37] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved
[20:37] <FLUXxXx> Hello! Can anyone tell me more possible NMAP usage examples? For instance: "how to see which hosts are UP on your lan", "how to find out what OS a host runs on", "how to see which hosts on your lan have port 556 opnened (possible trojan)" and so on? I don't need the nmap options 'cause i'll find those in nmap man page. I just want scenarios using NMAP. PLEASE. Thank you!
[20:37] <eckesicle> napsy_, i don't know then. sorry
[20:37] <randorfer> nuckingfuts then sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[20:37] <lostsanity> hi, i was here a bit ago asking about a bunch of seemingly random freezes i was getting, but nothing was really solved.. anyone feel like trying again?
[20:37] <eckesicle> Goodnight all
[20:37] <lostsanity> night
[20:38] <randorfer> nuckingfuts then sudo mv ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting
[20:38] <corinth> I installed Kubuntu using sudo aptitude kubuntu-desktop, don't like it. How do I remove all of the packages it installed?
[20:38] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, ok done, im assuming you want me to test it?
[20:38] <randorfer> nuckinfuts yep
[20:39] <eltux> lots of help you guys are today.........
[20:39] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, OKAY! something new, i have the test screen up, mouse moves around, i'll try rebooting runlevel 5
[20:39] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:40] <randorfer> nuckinfuts exciting lol
[20:40] <chuy> How do I identify the proper root or chainloader of my SATA drive?
[20:40] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:40] <xerxes1358> Skitt, you there ?
[20:40] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:41] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, lol yea, im switching to ubuntu cuz my Fedora 8 install up and lost all of the driver modules for both kernels i had... and bootup failed
[20:41] <prakriti> will there get geforce 8800gt support in ubuntu any time soon?
[20:41] <Skitt> xerxes1358, sry, was afk for a moment ... looks like your os isn't recognizing that there's anything plugged in ... did you connect the power suply (if one) or tried another usb-port?
[20:41] <nuckinfuts> prakriti lol im going through getting my 8600GT sli working right now
[20:41] <nickrud> prakriti, highly unlikely till next release, in april
[20:42] <randorfer> nuckinfuts:  the fedora bootup failed or this bootup failed
[20:42] <Berto-MediaPC> Hi - On my 7.10 system, my wireless doesn't auto-start unless I re-enter my WPA password each time
[20:42] <Berto-MediaPC> Is there a fix?
[20:42] <prakriti> thanks, i'll just download the nvidia driver
[20:42] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:42] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, this one, black screen again, fedora got erased to put ubuntu on
[20:42] <MisterChief> Hang on, I tried this: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity    but it didn't work, I went back to Ctrl Alt F7 and it still was in low graphics
[20:42] <Eyemean> hi there, is there a way to find out the ip address of a person who is using amsn messenger pls?
[20:42] <chuy> How do I identify the proper root or chainloader of my SATA drive?
[20:43] <xerxes1358> Skitt, Yes I did already. But I can see that there is a message that says that the system sees a USB drive connected to the system
[20:43] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:43] <quinton_> Only 2 speakers and the subwoofer are playing from my logitech 5.1 speakers help please!
[20:43] <randorfer> nuckinfuts you have a pm
[20:43] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved
[20:43] <nuckinfuts> randorfer, i do?
[20:43] <Skitt> xerxes1358, where do you see the message?
[20:44] <xTheGoat121x> Greetings
[20:44] <xerxes1358> Skitt, http://pastebin.org/14152
[20:44] <alsadk10> eltux: make swap first
[20:44] <randorfer> nuckinfuts, .join #nuck
[20:45] <chuy> Is there a command to see the list of disks?
[20:45] <nuckinfuts> .join #nuck
[20:45] <matthew_> is the repo version of flashplugin-nonfree STILL brokeN?
[20:45] <randorfer> nuckinftus /join #nuck
[20:45] <chuy> as in hd0, hd1, etc
[20:45] <lostsanity> aha. i now see what's eating my resources and most likely crashing me
[20:45] <pavel_> yes, it's still broken.
[20:45] <Eyemean> quinton, only 4 of my speakers and sub working, i think u need to double click on volume contral icon, select preferences and tick four channel mode
[20:45] <lostsanity> "gtk-gnash" what is that?
[20:45] <pavel_> tried it today.
[20:45] <steveire> Are there standing issues installing ubuntu in dual boot with vista? I remember reading about some back when vista was released.
[20:45] <lostsanity> and how do i get rid of it?..
[20:45] <MisterChief> I tried doing what it says on this site, but nothing changes: http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[20:45] <RyanPrior> chuy: lspci
[20:46] <nickrud> !info gnash | lostsanity
[20:46] <ubotu> lostsanity: gnash: free SWF movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 234 kB, installed size 828 kB
[20:46] <eltux> alsadk10: so your telling me I should manually partition?
[20:46] <RyanPrior> chuy: ls /dev | grep hd
[20:46] <alsadk10> how to installing skystar2 on ubuntu?
[20:46] <pavel_> you should try manual flash install from adobe's site.
[20:46] <Vaksy> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 7.10 on LGr405 and after boot there's no picture. Some suggestions how to proceed?
[20:46] <alsadk10>  eltux: yes first make partition as linux-swap
[20:47] <RyanPrior> Vaksy: No picture. What is there?
[20:47] <lostsanity> pavel_: ok, i thought i couldn't do that on the 64 bit ubuntu?
[20:47] <pavel_> vaksy - your graphics card is probably a nvidia
[20:47] <Skitt> xerxes1358, yeah, there are 2 usb-devices. one you removed and the "X10 Wireless Technology, Inc."
[20:47] <Borat> Hey guys, does anyone know how i can change the ubuntu icon with a gnome foot icon on my menu? I have replaced all the distributor icons in the entire filesystem but it still shows the ubuntu icon... Thanks
[20:47] <Arelis_> How do i install the Dutch language into KDE?
[20:47] <Vaksy> pavel_: ati radeon Xpress 1250
[20:47] <ompaul> !bootoptions | Vaksy
[20:47] <ubotu> Vaksy: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[20:47] <pavel_> lostsanity, sorry, i'm on x86... didn't know that
[20:47] <j0kEr> hello
[20:48] <j0kEr> who are you?
[20:48] <ompaul> !hello | j0kEr
[20:48] <ubotu> j0kEr: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:48] <pavel_> what's the point of installing a x64 version anyway? are you a datacenter?
[20:48] <Skitt> xerxes1358, and i dont think the "X10 Wireless Technology, Inc." is your storage-device
[20:48] <Nomikos> what happened to the ftp service in Gutsy?
[20:48] <nickrud> MisterChief, log out of gnome, clt-alt-f1 , sudo killall gconf2-d , then delete those directories he mentions
[20:48] <j0kEr> but where are you from???
[20:48] <j0kEr> i m italian!
[20:48] <j0kEr> :)
[20:48] <ompaul> !offtopic | j0kEr
[20:48] <ubotu> j0kEr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:48] <zaktuv> need some help on partitioning Ubunutu 6.06.1 LTS
[20:49] <lostsanity> nope.. honestly, i don't know. i'm entirely new to linux, and it asked what kind of processor i had not which one i wanted >>
[20:49] <j0kEr> sorry I don t understand soo much
[20:49] <RyanPrior> !it | j0kEr
[20:49] <j0kEr> bye
[20:49] <ubotu> j0kEr: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:49] <steveire> Fast moving channel. Anyone know about dual boot with vista?
[20:49] <chuy> RyanPrior: THANKS brb, need to reboot.
[20:49] <pavel_> x64 mostly means driver problems, i'd say
[20:49] <j0kEr> grazie ubotu!
[20:49] <alsadk10> من يتكلم عربي؟
[20:49] <pavel_> give the classic i386 version a shot
[20:49] <ompaul> !sa | alsadk10
[20:49] <ubotu> alsadk10: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[20:49] <nickrud> !sa | alsadk10
[20:50] <pavel_> it will work on your hardware as well.
[20:50] <xerxes1358> Skitt, how about this link: http://pastebin.org/14156
[20:50] <alsadk10> thx
[20:50] <lostsanity> alright. is there any way to do that that isn't a total pain in the ass or do i pretty much have to start over again?
[20:50] <nickrud> !dualboot | steveire
[20:50] <ubotu> steveire: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[20:50] <zaktuv> I am trying to partition a 1 TB on a HP DL380 server
[20:51] <pavel_> hm, i think you should do a clean install. if you haven't done much with your install it shouldnt be too painful
[20:51] <RB2> Hi everyone. I have a small problem. I installed the extra screen-savers from the repository via apt-get and was browsing through them in the Screensavers Settings and I hit one that HW locks my PC, even in the Preview. So, I can't change it via the GUI.
[20:51] <pavel_> otherwise just backup your stuff and start over
[20:51] <RyanPrior> RB2: screensavers need to die.
[20:52] <RB2> What file holds the screensaver selection?
[20:52] <lostsanity> okay, well i'm off to do that then, thanks for the help
[20:52] <pavel_> good luck with the install
[20:52] <RB2> RyanPrior, lol... the biggest problem is that Synaptic doesn't see the package I installed. So, I can't uninstall it. I don't remember the package name.
[20:52] <Skitt> xerxes1358, there's something which was connected and got disconnected (line 9 and 12) and there is another connected thing (line 13) which is your wireless controler
[20:53] <RB2> I know it was xxxx-glx but when I search for that, I just get the NVidia drivers and such.
[20:53] <nickrud> RB2,  run   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/gnome-screensaver , that should reset you to defaults
[20:53] <matthew_> trying to install flash manually.  It says to give the installation path for Mozilla, Netscape, or Opera browser and uses /usr/lib/mozilla as an example.  Except that doesn't work for me.
[20:53] <Vaksy> ompaul: not much of help?
[20:53] <RB2> nickrud, Thanks!
[20:54] <RyanPrior> RB2: I'll bet it was rss-glx, the "really slick screensavers" package.
[20:54] <steveire> nickrud: Do you dualboot with vista? Do you know anymore about the "Master boot record and boot manager" section. Does it apply only if you repair your mbr or in all cases?
[20:54] <pavel_> matthew, i think it should be YOUR_PROFILE/mozilla something
[20:54] <RB2> nickrud, Just the SS settings, correct?
[20:54] <Skitt> matthew_, tried /usr/lib/firefox ?
[20:54] <timnik> Hi *, What's the recommended virtualization technology for running Windows on Ubuntu? vmware, xen, kvm, virtualbox or other?
[20:54] <nickrud> RB2, yes, that's only the screensaver stuff
[20:54] <RB2> RyanPrior, it wasn't that short of a package name. I'll have to investigate further.
[20:54] <matthew_> Skitt:  i don't use firefox, i use epiphany.  i tried /usr/lib/epiphany and that didn't work.
[20:54] <ompaul> Vaksy - the vga 771 part or some other numbers in there close by may help
[20:55] <nickrud> steveire, i'd need a link to what you're reading
[20:55] <pavel_> /home/matthew/epiphany
[20:55] <nickrud> steveire, oh, duh :)
[20:55] <MisterChief> Is there a way to reset every setting to the default of the system?
[20:55] <steveire> nickrud:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[20:55] <RB2> nickrud, Thank you, thank you, thank you.. you're a life saver. :)
[20:55] <kdehead_> my flash player is in /home/justin/.mozilla/plugins/
[20:55] <PurpZeY> MisterChief: Clean install?
[20:55] <RhinoAK> Thanks for the help folks
[20:55] <kdehead_> ubuntu gutsy here
[20:55] <eltux> timnik: I've heard good things about virtualbox and vmware yet I haven't fully tested them myself on ubuntu. I know vmware runs great on windows :)
[20:55] <RyanPrior> I feel bad for the Arabic guy who was in here a sec ago. #ubuntu-sa is really empty.
[20:56] <MisterChief> PurpZeY: I think so, I want to keep all of my /home files, just the gdm settings
[20:56] <RyanPrior> kdehead_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:56] <timnik> eltux, thanks :-)
[20:56] <simu> hello, im looking for a graph plotting program with png export
[20:56] <pavel_> well, i think, for the majority of people on this channel english is the second language
[20:56] <kdehead_> there's no need to install the kubuntu desktop in order to get flash to work
[20:56] <PurpZeY> MisterChief: I am not entirely sure how to do it, but I have people saying they just make a partition w/ their home dir then reinstall and mount it
[20:56] <eltux> timnik: np, that's what we're here for
[20:56] <nickrud> steveire, that would apply if for any reason you reinstalled windows after installing ubuntu, or wrote to the master boot record using a windows recovery/repair utilitity
[20:56] <RyanPrior> simu: You can use kplot and take screen shots.
[20:56] <pavel_> so why feeling sorry
[20:56] <RyanPrior> simu: You could also use Octave I think, but it's a lot scarier to learn.
[20:57] <amber__> i had a problem with my rather new ubuntu install earlyer... my monitor shut off after 10 minutes as i had set it to do, but the keyboard and mouse couldnt get it out of it again.. happened twice in a row, and prevented now by setting screen shutdown off for the moment
[20:57] <amber__> anyone knows what that might be? the mouse still had light in it, so was not turned off as well
[20:57] <RB2> nickrud, Is there anyplace I can see what was installed by apt-get today? Those were the only packages I installed.
[20:57] <Borat> Does anyone know how to change the Ubuntu Icon On the menu to the GNome-Foot?
[20:57] <MisterChief> I would just like everything reset but keep the /home/andy files exactly as they were
[20:57] <Vaksy> ill try
[20:58] <RyanPrior> simu: If you're a Python programmer, there's a python graphing utility that you could probably coax to give png output.
[20:58] <toni_> someone knows if there is an enemy territories channel?
[20:58] <ConstyXIV> evolution, thunderbird, or other?
[20:58] <steveire> nickrud: OK. So when I get my new computer I'll resize the vista partition, then install ubuntu. That'll install grub. If I reinstall/repair windows (or there's a 'security' update or something) it will replace grub with a vista bootloader which should work just as well?
[20:58] <eltux> constyXIV: I like thunderbird myself :)
[20:59] <pavel_> better resize it with something other than the ubuntu installer.
[20:59] <simu> RyanPrior: I will take the solution using screenshots (of lybniz) thanks
[20:59] <kdehead_> steveire:  not a chance.  the windows bootloader will always replace grub.  thats microsoft for you.
[20:59] <ssam> simu, there is a bug in gutsys lybniz that makes saving to png not work
[20:59] <nickrud> RB2, not that I'm sure of.
[20:59] <slugone> ive got a 64bit install and i cant seem to open or use Gnash SWF viewer any ideas
[20:59] <kdehead_> but for security updates to vista you should be ok.
[20:59] <simu> ssam: oh ok
[21:00] <eltux> kdehead_: not if you install vista first, grub will take over after you install ubuntu
[21:00] <simu> ssam: I was already wondering ;-p
[21:00] <pavel_> why a x64 install? the primary question ;)
[21:00] <ssam> simu, but you can get 1.3.2 from sourceforge
[21:00] <eltux> kdehead_: I've done it with flawless results
[21:00] <steveire> kdehead_: When will the vista bootloader replace grub? First boot after installing ubuntu?
[21:00] <simu> ssam: ok thank you. maybe I find a deb package
[21:00] <unknown513> Hey randorfer, if your still there, i need help with GStreamer, i cant hear any sound, i installed all the plugins, and it says there isnt any on there
[21:00] <RB2> nickrud, thanks
[21:00] <nickrud> steveire, the bit about the vista boot loader is something new to me, but it appears that with proper config it will. You can also repair grub, see !grub for instructions
[21:00] <kdehead_> steveire - no.  only if you need to reinstall vista again.
[21:01] <ssam> simu, the one from debian should work on ubuntu
[21:01] <whitegulls> does anyone know how to change a hauppage pvr-150 to the composite-in settings?
[21:01] <steveire> kdehead_: OK, so what I said above was correct?
[21:01] <slugone> i cant get gnash swf viewer to open or work ...i got a 64bit install any ideas
[21:01] <steveire> nickrud: OK. So when I get my new computer I'll resize the vista partition, then install ubuntu. That'll install grub. If I reinstall/repair windows (or there's a 'security' update or something) it will replace grub with a vista bootloader which should work just as well?
[21:01] <ZiNC2^6> Doesn't Ubuntu works as a readonly OS from the CD, and not only as a pre-install environment?
[21:01] <eltux> steverie: if you install ubuntu last, grub will take place of the vista boot loader and You'll be fine
[21:01] <steveire> nickrud: OK. cheers
[21:01] <ssam> simu, http://packages.debian.org/lybniz
[21:01] <kdehead_> steverie -> yeah..  if you install ubuntu AFTER vista, you'll be fine. grub will take over.
[21:02] <steveire> eltux: That seems to be no different to the XP scenario.
[21:02] <nickrud> RB2, I'm sure there's a method, but I use aptitude which keeps a log I know about
[21:02] <unknown513> I need help with GStreamer, i have the packages installed, but it wont let me hear anything, and it says there are no plugins installed
[21:02] <steveire> eltux: As that seems to be the case, I don't see why it merits special note anywhere.
[21:02] <eltux> steverie: really it isn't. if you triple boot, you have to install xp then vista and then ubuntu :D
[21:02] <RB2> nickrud, I just went into /var/cache/apt and took a peak and found the package names.
[21:03] <mame> Hi is there a good alternative to GNOME desktop that is also as freindly?
[21:03] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:03] <rgnr> */bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:03] <eltux> steveire: its confusing at first but after you've done it, its really not anymore
[21:03] <kdehead_> mame ->  KDE.  its even more windowsy...
[21:03] <nickrud> RB2, the download time/date is not always indicative, but often is :)
[21:03] <rgnr> help
[21:03] <toni_> mame kde xfce
[21:03] <ZiNC2^6> mame: KDE is the other big one.
[21:03] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:04] <ZiNC2^6> Is it possible to get extensive OS features straight from the CD without installation?
[21:04] <nickrud> mame, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop in order of attempt at user-friendlyness
[21:04] <mame> I should give it a try
[21:04] <RB2> nickrud, yeah, the date was completely wrong, BUT I just needed to be reminded. As soon as I saw them, I knew which ones they were. Thanks again
[21:04] <steveire> eltux: I've been using ubuntu for ~2 years. I'm only confused because I'm getting a new laptop with vista :)
[21:04] <kdehead_> name ->  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   will install it.  you'll get a choice of either Gnome or KDE on the splash screen if you pick "Session" (i think) in the bottom left.
[21:04] <simu> ssam: thank you
[21:04] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:05] <toni_> unknown513, you get some errors?
[21:05] <Strangework> Hallo guys, does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:05] <eid> i want to login to swat interface, i succeeded but i can't get the needed buttons like share ?
[21:05] <forest> I just installed text-only Ubuntu using al alternate CD. Now how do I get to full desktop Ubuntu? Is it just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[21:05] <eltux> steveire: really, vista isn't useable. I prefer xp over vista myself. Enjoy your new laptop, you should be able to dual boot without any problems
[21:05] <nickrud> steveire, heck, then just copy over vista
[21:05] <xerxes1358> How do I manually mount a USB drive ?
[21:05] <unknown513> toni, yes it says i dont have GStreamer plugins installed
[21:05] <mame> Does linux have a way to clear freespace on a computer? Also does it have a pagefile like windows?
[21:05] <kdehead_> steveire -> i wiped vista off my new laptop and just went with a fresh ubuntu install.    vista sucks ass. big time.
[21:05] <toni_> forest, yes i do in that way
[21:05] <jikuty> anyone know of a really good Vista/Ubuntu7.10 dualbooting guide? i looked through google for a guide, but none of them are very detailed...
[21:05] <eltux> kdehead_: xD yep
[21:05] <forest> toni_ ok, i'll do it
[21:05] <nickrud> !install | jikuty it's automatic
[21:05] <ubotu> jikuty it's automatic: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:05] <rgnr> ppl help here!
[21:05] <rgnr> * /bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:05] <Delvien> Is there a way to turn off icons from your desktop
[21:06] <toni_> Delvien, in gnome?
[21:06] <unknown513> I can't hear any sound please help :-(
[21:06] <Delvien> yerp
[21:06] <Delvien> toni_ yeah, in gconf-editor atm, cant find the option
[21:06] <jikuty> well, im kind of confused with this partitioning.. some guides have you allocate free space in Vista, others tell you to let Ubuntu installer handle it
[21:06] <Nomikos> what happened to the ftp service in Gutsy?
[21:06] <toni_> unknown513,  apt-cache searcg gstreamer | grep plugin
[21:06] <toni_> undertherift, then isntall the one you need
[21:06] <unknown513> where do i type that?
[21:06] <Nomikos> I can't seem to run/install/enable/use ftp?
[21:06] <nickrud> Delvien, gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop , uncheck that
[21:07] <jlulian38> hurf durf, I'm trying to mount an NFS partition from a second computer, (like I've already mounted it on another) and I'm getting like "corrupted filesystem" error
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[21:07] <toni_> unknown513,  terminal
[21:07] <zcat[1]> jikuty: 'personal preference' -- it really doesn't matter :)
[21:07] <Delvien> nickrud nice, thanks
[21:07] <jlulian38> "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 192.168.0.4:/home/jlulian38/store/"
[21:07] <jikuty> eid: that's with 7.04
[21:07] <nickrud> jikuty, if I had the option to redo, I'd resize in vista
[21:07] <toni_> lol i have too many partitions!
[21:07] <toni_> damn
[21:07] <jikuty> eid: and when I tried that method, the installer gave me the error that there are too many primary partitions...
[21:08] <toni_> jikuty,  the same for me now :)
[21:08] <kdehead_> Nomikos ->  you tried typing "ftp" from the command line?
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[21:08] <toni_> jikuty,  you can have just 4 primary partitions, you have to delete one
[21:08] <Strangework> Hallo guys, does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:08] <Nomikos> kdehead_: I tried various variations on apt=get install ftpd
[21:08] <jikuty> hmm.. the problem is I don't know which to delete :D
[21:09] <nickrud> !ftpd | Nomikos
[21:09] <ubotu> Nomikos: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[21:09] <Nomikos> kdehead_: it used to be system/admin/services?
 i used dual boot {XP+ Feisty }, i don't have any idea about vista
[21:09] <toni_> jikuty, i got this error now that i resize the windows one, i'm gonna delete it :)
[21:09] <Nomikos> I tried installing proftpd as well, which tells me to "check my configuration¨
[21:09] <rgnr> !help
[21:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:09] <eltux> eid: its basically the same, install windows first, then ubuntu
[21:09] <kdehead_> nomikos -> probably was turned off in favour of sftp which is part of the openssl package.
[21:09] <nickrud> jikuty, use vista to shrink the windows partition, then tell the ubuntu installer to use all the free space
[21:09] <Nomikos> kdehead_: ah, that's a new one..
[21:10] <zcat[1]> last dual-boot of vista I was involved with, I think we treated it just like XP.. resize, install, reboot.. it seemed to work out OK too.
[21:10] <simu> ssam: it works!!!! great! im using it for my master theses!
[21:10] <kdehead_> nomikos -> bear in mind that when you use ftp your id and password is transmitted in plain text over the internet....   not a good thing to be doing.
[21:10] <Nomikos> kdehead_: could that also cause a reinstall of proftpd to fail?
[21:10] <eltux> eid: the only way it gets difficult is if you triple boot, then you would install xp then vista then ubuntu for example
[21:10] <eltux> :)
[21:10] <steveire> I don't plan to use vista. I'll keep it around as long as it's useful for comparison etc. It's good to have knowledge of systems you don't regularly use and don't box in to anything. Thanks for the advice nickrud kdehead_ eltux.
[21:10] <eid> I'm trying to login to swat with privileges allow share button to appear, my user account failed to do that :(
[21:10] <ezc> dual boot will work the same no matter what OS you are using, just configure your boot loader properly
[21:11] <Nomikos> kdehead_: I know, this is LAN only though
[21:11] <jikuty> vista shows to partitions with blank names and no filesystem... I don't know what the heck they are for
[21:11] <jikuty> i wonder if I should just delete one...
[21:11] <nickrud> steveire, yeah, it's kinda nice to have vista to boot into to examine stuff you're not sure about in ubuntu (heresy, I know)
[21:11] <unknown512> toni_if your still there, where do i type that thing it? my comp froze for a second
[21:11] <Strangework> Does anyone here know of an alternative chat client that supports AIM video chat?
[21:11] <rgnr> ppl dammit
[21:11] <jikuty> one is labelled "EISA Configuration"
[21:11] <rgnr> help
[21:11] <kdehead_> nomikos ->  try the openssl package instead.   that will allow you to use secure ftp (sftp) and ssh (secure terminal)
[21:11] <eltux> steverie: so true, your welcome. If I could get mac os x to run on this pc of mine properly I would be triple booting osx xp and ubuntu xD
[21:11] <rgnr> what is wxrc and where do i get it
[21:11] <nickrud> !ask rgnr
[21:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask rgnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:12] <nickrud> !ask | rgnr
[21:12] <ubotu> rgnr: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
 do you have any idea about swat
[21:12] <eid> ?
[21:12] <unknown512> I can't hear any sound please help :-( i get an error saying i dont have the GStreamer plugins
[21:12] <rgnr> nickrud:  what is wxrc?
[21:12] <eltux> eid: swat? what's that?
[21:12] <flamsmark> hey, my integrated sound on a gigabyte ga n680i hasn't been detected on 7.10
[21:12] <zcat[1]>  .. and I think he might have DRdos somewhere too.. but not a windows in sightI have a friend that boots FreeBSD, OpenBSD and several linux distros
[21:12] <eth01> yeah, check nvidia
[21:13] <unknown512>  I can't hear any sound please help :-( i get an error saying i dont have the GStreamer plugins
[21:13] <zcat[1]> Ohh, hit home instead of del.. hope you can follow that
[21:13] <chuy> So, I have an IDE with ubuntu loaded on it, and a SATA with Windows. I got Ubuntu to mount the Windows drive, and i added it as (hd1,0) in my menu.lst, but I can't get GRUB to load it correctly. Not to mention, I can't get GRUB to interact graphically after loading gfxboot. The hell?
[21:13] <kdehead_> unknown52 -> you're better off putting you problem on the forums, as folks will want outputs from dmesg and lspci to determine your hardware and where the fault is.
[21:13] <nickrud> rgnr, I think it's some kind of config file used by wxwindows
[21:13] <eid> swat : samba web administration  tool
[21:13] <ssam> simu, thats cool, what subject
[21:13] <rgnr> nickrud:  wxwidgets
[21:13] <toni_> chuy,  where is grub installed?
[21:14] <unknown512> kdehead-> i dont think its my hardware, i think i just need the plugins
[21:14] <kdehead_> flamsmark ->  ga n680i  - is that a gateway laptop?
[21:14] <nickrud> rgnr, same library, yes
[21:14] <rgnr> nickrud:  wxrc -c -o res/xrc_resource.h res/*.xrc
[21:14] <rgnr> /bin/sh: wxrc: not found
[21:14] <rgnr> make: *** [res/xrc_resource.h] Error 127
[21:14] <chuy> toni_: /boot
[21:14] <eth01> kdehead, i'vew no idea.
[21:14] <nickrud> rgnr, or platform, anyway. A sec
[21:14] <kdehead_> unknown -> it might be hardware though.  big problems with new gateway laptops.  fixed in the kernel release for hardy heron.
[21:14] <flamsmark> no, that's a gigabyte mobo, kdehead
[21:14] <zcat[1]> anybody using 64-bit ubuntu and libdvdcss2? I can't play dvd's on this machine.. I swapped the dvd drive from another and had the same problem so I think it's software..
[21:14] <unknown512> kdehead-> well i have a Dell XPS 720
[21:14] <toni_> chuy_ i mean that it has to be installed in the mbr of the master, is the sata
[21:15] <unknown512> kdehead->with a creative soundcard
[21:15] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part where it says its installing the kernel and now its hanging
[21:15] <toni_> chuy,  i suppose....but i dunno how the sata works...
[21:15] <nickrud> rgnr, according to packages.ubuntu.com it's in the wx-common package
[21:15] <zcat[1]> it 'kinda' reads the disks but has all kinds of issues, as if the disk was damaged..
[21:15] <chuy> toni_: The IDE is the master, and it is installed on the IDE
[21:15] <chuy_> toni_, excuse me?
[21:15] <toni_> chuy, ok so it's really strange
[21:15] <kdehead_> unknown ->  post it on the forums.  and the output of lspci
[21:15] <toni_> chuy,  the boot sequence in bios is correct?
[21:15] <unknown512> kdehead -> whats the Ispci?
[21:16] <rgnr> nickrud:  10x i'll try that
[21:16] <kdehead_> unknown>  command line.  type "lspci"
[21:16] <ZiNC2^6> Can Ubuntu no longer be used without installing first?
[21:16] <kdehead_> thats L S P C I , but all lowercase...
[21:16] <toni_> ZiNC2^6, sure
[21:16] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. should I resize this and dual-boot 32 and 64, or should I just nuke the whole thing...
[21:16] <unknown512> kdehead>and where do i type this command line?
[21:16] <flamsmark> no, that's a gigabyte mobo, kdehead_
[21:16] <chuy> toni_: Yes, the sequence in the bios is correct. Get this, when I start the comp up, instead of running straight to the Grub boot menu, I have to press Esc to view the non graphical menu.
[21:16] <ZiNC2^6> toni: How do you get to that, then?
[21:17] <zcat[1]> I know.. time to try a hardy beta!
[21:17] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: download and burn the live cd
[21:17] <kdehead_> unknown ->  look for the "terminal" icon.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Anthony Crane craves sandwich right now.
[21:17] <toni_> chuy, ok, now i got it!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Me hungry! Me eat!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Anthony Crane is in da building, Anthony Crane is in da building.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Me hungry! Me eat!
[21:17] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: There's only "Examples" and "Install".
[21:17] <xamox> if I want to disable compiz, what is the easy way in gusty?
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane> Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Give me food or give me death!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Me could eat entire pot roast right now.
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  I AM SO HUNGRY! Food for da great Anthony Crane!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:17]  * nickrud thinks zcat[1] best have a spare partition 
[21:17] <toni_> chuy, so with an text editor open the /boot/grub/menu.list
[21:17] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. Please help
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Me Anthony Crane. Me like to eat!
[21:17] <Anthony_Crane>  Anthony Crane craves sandwich right now.
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Anthony Crane is in da building, Anthony Crane is in da building.
[21:18] <zcat[1]> !ops Anthony_Crane
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Me hate not eating! ME HUNGRY!
[21:18] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: everything is still there. what do you want to do?
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Crane. Anthony Crane.
[21:18] <Teddy> please help
[21:18] <unknown512> kdehead> like, can you give me more of a hint where the "terminal" icon might be?
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Bon Appetit for Anthony Crane!
[21:18] <nickrud> !ops | Anthony_Crane
[21:18] <ubotu> Anthony_Crane: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[21:18] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: To have the "taskbar", menus, etc.
[21:18] <Anthony_Crane>  Give me food or give me death!
[21:18] <eltux> !ops | Anthony_Crane
[21:18] <kdehead_> unknown ->  i'd love to, but i'm in the ICEWM window manager right now, not Gnome...
[21:18] <zcat[1]> are we lagging or summat?
[21:18] <desoleil> i have a projector that has native resolution of 800x480, I cannot get X11 to go to that resolution
[21:18] <Laurenceb> hi all
[21:18] <nickrud> where's a cop when you need one
[21:18] <chuy> toni_: HEre: http://pastebin.com/m70d9305a
[21:18] <kdehead_> its in one of the menus in the gnome desktop.
[21:18] <Teddy> Can you help me please ?
[21:18] <unknown512> kdehead > oh well thanks anyway =)
[21:18] <eltux> nickrud: lol
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: Hey.
[21:19] <kbrooks> ALERTING OPS AGAIN:
[21:19] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[21:19] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[21:19] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. Please help
[21:19] <Laurenceb> I've got ubuntu running off the livecd
[21:19] <zcat[1]> hmm.. that was quicker
[21:19] <Laurenceb> but how do I install?
[21:19] <kbrooks> ah ok
[21:19] <kbrooks> sorry all
[21:19] <toni_> chuy, perfect on line 25 there is hiddenmenu..comment it and save the file :)
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: There's "install" on the desktop, no?
[21:19] <Laurenceb> the install icon doesnt seem to do anything
[21:19] <nickrud> zcat[1], you had no | in your ops scream
[21:19] <PurpZeY> Laurenceb: just double click " install"
[21:19] <ZiNC2^6> Laurenceb: Oh.
[21:19] <Laurenceb> I click on it and nothing
[21:19] <Laurenceb> double click*
[21:20] <zcat[1]> Ohhh...
[21:20] <kdehead_> unknown ->  try adding the "run application" panel widget.
[21:20] <Laurenceb> tried that as well
[21:20] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: So how does that work?
[21:20] <JordiGH> I'd like to cat weird shit to my sound card, but /dev/dsp is seemingly busy. How can I kill whatever is using it?
[21:20] <Teddy> I was making tar.bz2 archive from 4gb files and after a while it gave me an error I didn't look at it just press ok and now there is no archive created my but hard drive space is used another 4gb and I tried to locate or find it i can't. And now I don't have space on my hard drive. How to delete that temporary archive?? Please help
[21:20] <chuy> toni_: like this: "# hiddenmenu"?
[21:20] <unknown512> kdehead> for what reason?
[21:20] <zcat[1]> didn't think it needed one, I was yelling -about- him, not to him...
[21:20] <unknown512> kdehead> iv found the terminal =D
[21:21] <haymaker> how do i customize the appearance of my gnome toolbars?
[21:21] <toni_> chuy, yes. it should appear now
[21:21] <Teddy> does everybody ignores me here ?!
[21:21] <PurpZeY> Laurenceb: If that persists....and it's weird, just restart and select "install" instead of "Start and install"
[21:21] <chuy> Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <ZiNC2^6> Teddy: Probably not. Just difficult to keep track.
[21:21] <Laurenceb> the cd fires up
[21:21] <kdehead_> unknown ->  because its easier to just type "xterm" than tryting to find it in a menu.
[21:21] <BeBoo> ZiNC2^6: Not sure, I see the menubar at the top but I don't have the "taskbar"... I'm not too sure
[21:21] <Laurenceb> but nothing happens
[21:21] <chuy> toni_Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <Teddy> then please help me
[21:21] <zcat[1]> Teddy: probably in /tmp somewhere ..
[21:21] <kdehead_> but anyway you found it now.
[21:21] <chuy> toni_: Why won't the SATA (Windows) drive loead?
[21:21] <Teddy> i was looking cant find anywhere
[21:21] <desoleil> how do I force a resolution (800x480)? i added the modeline to xorg.conf but it still does not show up in screen resolution
[21:22] <eltux> Teddy: with 1200 some odd people here, you sometimes get ignored. Don't worry though, they are here to help
[21:22] <Laurenceb> oh it works now
[21:22] <Laurenceb> strange
[21:22] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: Is that straight after running from the CD? I.e., desktop with "install" and "examples", and the menubar?
[21:22] <zcat[1]> Teddy: you didn't create the archive as a dotfile did you?
[21:22] <Teddy> no
[21:22] <zcat[1]> hehe.. just had to ask
[21:22] <Laurenceb> it wouldnt load before.... maybe a drive error?
[21:22] <toni_> chuy,  you should add it in the menu, but i have no experience with sata at boot...
[21:22] <BeBoo> yes, ZiNC2^6.
[21:22] <Laurenceb> my cd dive is going crazy, I wouldnt be suprised
[21:23] <zcat[1]> dunno.. I didn't think tar did any tempfiles .. that seems weird
[21:23] <BeBoo> i don't get the taskbar
[21:23] <unknown512> kdehead>alright i am going to make a post on the forums, thanks for your help
[21:23] <Teddy> I made it tar.bz2
[21:23] <Teddy> and now there is no archive nothing
[21:23] <Teddy> only my space is used
[21:23] <ZiNC2^6> BeBoo: Strange. Is there a way to run the menubar when it's not present?
[21:23] <kdehead_> unknown-> dont forget to post the lspci output.   the output of "dmesg" will also help.
[21:23] <toni_> can i merge two reiser partition?
[21:23] <chuy> toni_: Look at like 118 http://pastebin.com/m70d9305a
[21:24] <shadowxp> does anyone know where the default samba.conf is?
[21:24] <zcat[1]> find . -size +3g  or something like that ?
[21:24] <shadowxp> er smb.conf*
[21:24] <shadowxp> !samba
[21:24] <zcat[1]> you can use 'find' to find all the files bigger than about 3gig, that might track it down
[21:24] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:24] <toni_> chuy,  is saw..it's correct but i don't know if hd is ok also for sata...
[21:24] <kb9urq> I have cloned monitors at 1024x768 and 1366x768.  When stellarium goes fullscreen it only takes up the 1024x768 monitor and leaves extra space on the 1366.  How do I get it to take up the 1366 monitor's space?
[21:25] <zcat[1]> kb9urq: I have the opposite problem.. when I run urban terror fullscreen it spreads accross both monitors, with my crosshair right on the split
[21:25] <kb9urq> zcat: you're in xinerama?
[21:26] <zcat[1]> apparently so. I'm about to reinstall anyhow, so no rush to get it sorted
[21:26] <Teddy> zcat[1], how to find bigger than 3gig? what to write?  find ..
[21:26] <chuy> toni_: I did cat /boot/grub/device.map in terminal, and got this:
[21:26] <chuy> (hd0)   /dev/hda
[21:26] <chuy> (hd1)   /dev/sda
[21:26] <zcat[1]> Teddy: 'man find' -- it's a tool well worth learning how to use.
[21:26] <toni_> chuy,  so is correct
[21:28] <coflounder> Hey gurus.  I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy on my desktop the same way i upgraded on my lappy.  the upgrade went...badly.  After booting safe mode (the only way it'd boot), I ran sudo apt-get upgrade, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  I attempted a reboot, and got this error: shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
[21:28] <coflounder> init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/intictl
[21:28] <coflounder> any ideas?
[21:28] <e67> Hello
[21:29] <Laurenceb> should I use manual partioning to be sure of protecting my windows installation?
[21:29] <e67> I want to change the default ubuntu boot loading screen. how can it be possible??
[21:29] <toni_> Laurenceb,  yes you have
[21:29] <toni_> LadyNikon, hi
[21:29] <Laurenceb> ok, thats lucky
[21:29] <Laurenceb> I was almost tempted not to
[21:30] <nosmofui> how can i see the a preview of the pictures when a want to upload them from firefox in gnome??
[21:30] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its just hanging on 6% and it says Please wait. I've waited for 15 minutes now and it hasn't moved. any suggestions?
[21:30] <nosmofui> restart the instalation
[21:30] <eltux> nosmofui: I have more than once and it does the same thing
[21:31] <Laurenceb> this doesnt make sence
[21:31] <Laurenceb> it shows two 27GB partitions
[21:31] <Laurenceb> and a 4GB
[21:31] <ompaul> !bootoptions | eltux (and try the no apic / apci options on that page)
[21:31] <ubotu> eltux (and try the no apic / apci options on that page): For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:31] <zcat[1]> eltux: wait longer... it does pause for ages indexing fonts or something
[21:31] <Laurenceb> as far as I was aware there were only two partitions
[21:31] <nosmofui> i didint understand eltux
[21:31] <Laurenceb> on my hdd
[21:31] <tomas_> good day, I got a sound issue and I can't seem to find anything about exactly this error on google , could anyone assist?
[21:32] <ZiNC2^6> How can one open a shell?
[21:32] <zcat[1]> eltux: also alt-F1 or something will show you what it's actually doing..
[21:32] <nosmofui> your pc is fast??
[21:32] <nosmofui> or slow
[21:32] <zcat[1]> alt-Fsomething..
[21:32] <ZiNC2^6> tomas: Perhaps. Be more specific, and someone might be able to help.
[21:32] <eltux> zcat[1]: its frozen :\
[21:32] <nosmofui> yeah...  alt+F_anynumbre
[21:32] <ompaul> !sound | tomas_
[21:32] <ubotu> tomas_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:33] <unknown512> kdehead> here is my thread if you can help me any further
[21:33] <unknown512> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4079414#post4079414
[21:33] <apocalypt1> how do i go about getting info on what distro i have installed?
[21:33] <nosmofui> maybe your cd is bad
[21:33] <netz> anyone having connection problems with help.ubuntu.com?
[21:33] <zcat[1]> eltux: ahh, ok... I know my installs it always gets to about 6% and seems to have hung.. then after a few minutes it flies through the rest of the install
[21:33] <tomas_> thanks ZiNC2^6  , the problem is , ubuntu finds the sound card but when I choose auto in system -> preference -> sound, it does the test, but no sound
[21:33] <ompaul> netz, no it is fine
[21:34] <hacknslash> apocalypt1, cat /etc/issue
[21:34] <ZiNC2^6> tomas: I'm not the ideal person for questions about Ubuntu. :) But maybe see these pages ubotu mentioned.
[21:34] <eltux> zcat[1]: I'll take your word for it and wait again
[21:34] <unknown512> If you guys know any answers to my thread please go and post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4079414#post4079414
[21:35] <tomas_> ZiNC2^6,  thanks will check it out :)
[21:35] <platius> tomas_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  might be an answer here
[21:35] <zcat[1]> eltux: alt-F2 or one of hte F keys switches to the dpkg output and you can see what it's doing. If there's no drive activity or you can't switch though, it probably has hung
[21:35] <nsa84> good evening all, anyone experienced with nvidia 7900xx dual screen 1680*1050 ?
[21:35] <coflounder> anyone on my /dev/initctl problem?
[21:36] <nsa84> I cannot get the nvidea driver to work
[21:36] <jinxed-> Can someone help get my Nvidia driver working so I can get past 800 x 600 resolution?
[21:36] <netz> ompaul: could you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[21:36] <nsa84> hi jinced looks like we have the same problem ?
[21:36] <jinxed-> yep
[21:36] <PurpZeY> !nvidia | jinxed-
[21:36] <ubotu> jinxed-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:36] <zcat[1]> download underway.. will have hardy in about 35 minutes...
[21:36] <nsa84> what moves did you make already ?
[21:37] <jinxed-> you enable it in restricted driver settings nsa and do gksudo nvidia-settings?
[21:37] <ompaul> netz, I did it is fine
[21:37] <nsa84> i had found these binary drivers, but don't seem to get them working
[21:37] <ZiNC2^6> How can I open a shell?
[21:37] <nsa84> i did sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:38] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: menu > applications > terminal  ?
[21:38] <nsa84> i will try settings ..
[21:38] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: There's no menubar.
[21:38] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I have tried all that
[21:38] <jinxed-> nothing helped
[21:38] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: alt-F2 gnome-terminal  I think
[21:38] <zcat[1]> yep.. that's it
[21:38] <nsa84> jinxed i got a "command not found" back
[21:39] <zcat[1]> where did your menubar go?
[21:39] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alt-F2 does nothing. Maybe the desktop/whatever isn't fully loaded?
[21:39] <tomas_> Well I have checked all those troubleshooting guides, but the problem to me seems to be that, alsa recieves the sound, but does not get it forward to the speakers, all channels open, added the right options in alsa-base  so I'm kinda in a picked, it's a ALC850card
[21:39] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: sounds like it
[21:39] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No idea. Justed started the CD, there's only Examples and Install.
[21:39] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: how much ram? if you have less than about 300M you might be waiting a while
[21:40] <jinxed-> really--? gksudo nvidia-settings should give you the menu... when i run it it comes up but i get errors and i can't config anything
[21:40] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: It's stopped loading. There's 240MB. I only have Nautilus accessible directly, besides the desktop icons.
[21:40] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: that seems a bit weird.
[21:40] <quinton_> I recently downloaded the asus p4c800e soundmax linux sound driver... I really need help on installing this, I clueless.
[21:41] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I thought maybe it's "install only" or something.
[21:41] <nsa84> Euhm seems like somthing like i did with i think it was ubuntu 6.06 ad then it worked splendly
[21:41] <joseph_> In 7.10, is there a way to get an smbfs share to automount after the wireless network is started?  This used to work in 7.04
[21:41] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I'd be inclined to use the alternative install disk anyhow.. you're a bit light on ram for the live cd I think
[21:42] <quinton_> I recently downloaded the asus p4c800e soundmax linux sound driver... I really need help on installing this, I clueless.
[21:42] <eid> how can i use samba to share printers ?
[21:42] <joseph_> the network gets started after /etc/smbfs has been done.  So I need something to monitor the network and try to mount my network shares
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> joseph_:  ive been using the fuse smb, tool., it rescans the samba network shares every few min. That way you dont have to manually mouint them
[21:42] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I didn't plan on using it extensively, just for something specific.
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[21:42] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-1 (gutsy), package size 29 kB, installed size 140 kB
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, cool, is that in the repository?
[21:42] <eid> if you can give me any good tutorial for sharing printers using samba
[21:42] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alternative install must be installed, right? :)
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, perfect!!
[21:42] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: can you borrow another 256M from somewhere then? That would probably help
[21:42] <nsa84> jinxed .. sorry just checking my restricted drivers settings, they waren't activated
[21:42] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, 7.04 used tod o that automatically...
[21:43] <nsa84> when i actievated them en retried the command i opens something up :)
[21:43] <XBehave> ive broken a driver is there anyway to restore it without compiling it
[21:43] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not really. If it were memory, wouldn't it actively complain? And weren't the requirements 192MB?
[21:43] <PurpZeY> XBehave: What do you mean you broke it/
[21:44] <DigitalNinja> Is there a good tool for monitoring system performance? I was about to install Cacti but thought I would ask first.
[21:44] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, ok, i've installed it.  Now what do I do to get it running and mounting my smbfs out of /etc/fstab ?
[21:44] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, btw, if i do sudo mount -a, it will mount the share, so i know it works
[21:44] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: no, it won't complain, it will just run real slow and fail to start stuff... I'm not sure what the minimum is, I generally find that with 256M the install is painfully slow though
[21:44] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: anyhow.. what were you trying to do? I missed it
[21:45] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I don't mind slow. It definitely seems slower than Knoppix 4, but it will do for now. If it allowed me more control.
[21:45] <nsa84> Jinxed im only not able to do any setting according to the resolution of the screen and the activation of the second screen.
[21:45] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Run some checksumming on a few files on NTFS.
[21:45] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: the alternate cd will run faster, the livecd will barely run without swap
[21:45] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers? thank you!
[21:45] <coflounder> DigitalNinja: if you don't want a gui-try sysstat
[21:46] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Barely would be good enough. :)
[21:46] <soulrider> !flash
[21:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[21:46] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[21:46] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers? thank you!
[21:46] <zcat[1]> can the regular live CD be used to just launch a basic text shell? that might work better..
[21:46] <jinxed-> really--? gksudo nvidia-settings should give you the menu... when i run it it comes up but i get errors and i can't config anything
[21:47] <jinxed-> Can someone help get my Nvidia driver working so I can get past 800 x 600 resolution?
[21:47] <DigitalNinja> coflounder: I don't know this tool. I'll give it a try. I'm really looking for something with a graph though.
[21:47] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not ideal, but that's what I was thinking of, since I'm not sure why the GUI isn't there.
[21:47] <tomas_> !sound
[21:47] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:47] <quinton_> http://support.asus.com/download/download_item.aspx?product=1&model=P4C800-E%20Deluxe
[21:48] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: what you really need is something like insert, the ubuntu CD isn't really designed to be a quick diagnostic toolkit..
[21:48] <XBehave> PurpZeY: i was trying to change my wireless drivers following some guide, now i get a ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS) failed: Operation not supported when i try  to use it
[21:48] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers?
[21:48] <MadsRH> Can anyone tell what to write in GRUB when I want to boot from XP on hdb1?
[21:48] <ZiNC2^6> zcat, XBehave: You think I might do better with 7.04?
[21:48] <jinxed-> tomas_, you know anything about nvidia drivers?
[21:48] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:48] <nsa84> jinxed? what is youre setup? maybe we are able to joins fores and kill two birds with one stone.
[21:48] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: My impression was that it was supposed to work, even if slowly. I guess I'll try Knoppix, if older Ubuntu versions are the same in this regard.
[21:49] <tomas_> jinxed-,  no sorry, I don't know much, except ubuntu did that completely automatically
[21:49] <luiscota> Hi. How can I login to Freenode? What's the command?
[21:49] <zcat[1]> http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html -- I've used this in the past.. or knoppix would be good...
[21:49] <prometoys> hi, has somebody experience with the Realtek 8111C network card (module r8169)?
[21:49] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No point in trying 7.04?
[21:49] <PurpZeY> luiscota: You are logged in to freenode
[21:49] <chymera> how do I get rid of that freakin trash icon from my desktop?
[21:49] <soulrider> !resolution
[21:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:49] <MadsRH> Can anyone tell what to write in GRUB when I want to boot from XP on hdb1?
[21:49] <jinxed-> Can anyone help me get my resolution working ... I have been working on this for hours now and I am not getting anywhere?
[21:49] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: if you have one handy, sure..
[21:49] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install a sound driver, I dont understand what to do.
[21:49] <jinxed-> soulrider, i have been through that, and twinview
[21:49] <joseph_> Dr_Willis, are you there?  I don't see ANY documentation on this app
[21:50] <jinxed-> soulrider, i think i know where the error is but i don't know how to fix it
[21:50] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Not yet. The question is whether there were radical differences between that and 7.10 that would prevent 7.10 from running properly.
[21:50] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:50] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Is your card recognized properly?
[21:50] <prometoys> the network doesnt work (static and dhcp/ cable, firewall etc checked), and the chip seams problematic.
[21:50] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I believe so
[21:50] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Have you done the "!fixres" steps?
[21:51] <luiscota> PurpZeY, it's something like /msg nickserv identify password, but I want to log in with a different name.
[21:51] <PurpZeY> luiscota: You have to register any name before you identify yourself to it
[21:51] <zcat[1]> well if you're going to download something for the job I'd get a proper diagnostics distro like insert.. 6.06 or 7.04 might do the job if you had it already but I wouldn't bother downloading it specially..
[21:51] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, lspci -v | grep nVidia lists something with nvidia so i think its working
[21:51] <vespertilio> hallo
[21:51] <Cromag> !de
[21:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:52] <zcat[1]> anyway, insert is a small download, you could have grabebd it by now ;)
[21:52] <rodolfo> Jack_Sparrow: hey man how are you doing?
[21:52] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: are you getting direct rendering?
[21:52] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I am trying to get the built in configuration for Nvidia drivers to work so when you type gksudo Nvidia-settings i can just config resolution in there
[21:52] <luiscota> PurpZeY, yes. I've done that. It's just that I'm on another machine with another username.
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alright, I guess I'll go with Knoppix 5 since it's already downloading.
[21:52] <quinton_> Can someone please help me install some sound drivers, I dont quiet understand how.
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But what I'm seeing now is abnormal, right? :) I was actually looking forward to seeing Ubuntu.
[21:52] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I don't know what you mean... when i restart it says i am in low graphics mode... btw eventually i am trying to get to dual monitor
[21:52] <fallore> hello everyone. i've got a problem that worries me quite a bit: recently, as in i think since yesterday, my grub loader, which loads ubuntu and windows, started taking a long time to display the OSes it could boot to. it loads eventually though
[21:52] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: And it looked promising before the almost empty desktop showed up. :)
[21:52] <ignus> hi, can anyone help me install Tracker-0.6.4?
[21:53] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it does seem odd, yes
[21:53] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: If you are in low graphics mode something is not being identified properly. Perhaps it is using the wrong driver
[21:53] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is it possible to do a partial install that would still run off the CD, but with swap/temp/home on the HDD?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  uncompress the source file, be sure you have all needed stuff installed (install build-essential package)  cd to the source dir, then normally its a ' ./configure then make, then sudo make install' commands.
[21:53] <Laurenceb> hi all, can anyone help me, I'm trying to nstall alongside a windows installation
[21:53] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, how would i tell what driver it is using... and whether or not it is the wrong one
[21:53] <Laurenceb> without losing work ect on the hdd
[21:53] <jinxed-> ... if you want i can give you remote desktop acess... I am not very good with terminal
[21:53] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Is this a fresh install?
[21:54] <quinton_> dr_willis, would you please step by step guide me?
[21:54] <ignus> hi, can anyone help me install Tracker-0.6.4?
[21:54] <Laurenceb> so, I'm using the manual partition thingy
[21:54] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: possible, sure.. practical? Probably not.. have you tried puppy linux? It runs like that be default..
[21:54] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, no its upgrade from 7.04
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  step 1 uncompress the source archive.
[21:54] <themoebius> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and it enabled the compiz stuff automatically, but this is a slow computer so how can i disable it?
[21:54] <jinxed-> I dual boot XP and ubuntu PurpZeY
[21:54] <quinton_> dr_willis, yes, ok i uncompressed it to desktop
[21:54] <Ax-Ax> how do i search after the phrase "abc" in all documents in home?
[21:54] <nickrud> themoebius, system->prefs->appearance effects tab, select none
[21:55] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Well, practical or not... if it'd do what I initially expected the CD to do, that'd be fine. But... okay. :)
[21:55] <zcat[1]> Ax-Ax: find ~ -exec grep {} abc {} \;
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> ok
[21:55] <zcat[1]> ignore the last {} it's a typo
[21:55] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Hmmm...Well, the dual boot is non-issue, but it sounds like you got the wrong driver for the card you are using if you get can't res above 800 x 600. and in addition it is running in low graphics mode
[21:55] <themoebius> nickrud: ok thanks
[21:55] <Ax-Ax> zcat[1], no
[21:55] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is the install procedure always as scary as it is now? It loads the Partioner, then lets me choose between two "automatic" partitioning options (one of them selected by default), even though the HDD is already partitioned and used.
[21:55] <Laurenceb> how do I mount a swap partition?
[21:55] <jinxed-> well I have a 16X PCI express geforce go 6600 128 mb ram... PurpZeY
[21:55] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: when I say impractical, I mean 'impossible for mere mortals to figure out how'
[21:56] <quinton_> dr_willis, it uncompressed an actual folder and it says the same name w/o the .tar.bz2 on the end.
[21:56] <DigitalNinja> coflounder: Sysstat is kind of cool. I'll run it and see what I get
[21:56] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Oh. :)
[21:56] <lgc> PurpZeY, see? I have now logged in as lgc.
[21:56] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: its possible but you would need to mount stuff yourself everytime, a better option for a liveCD bassed system IMO is knoppix (or gnoppix if you hate kde)
[21:56] <rodolfo> hey i need some help...what file should i install when terminal says "No package xvmc found"? (x11proto-fonts-dev, x11proto-core-dev and xserver-xorg-dev are already installed)
[21:56] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Haven't used it much, but I didn't like it, yes. And the little of Gnome I've seen in 7.10 seems nicer.
[21:56] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Try running the following in the terminal glxinfo | grep direct
[21:56] <rokra> HEllo
[21:57] <ZiNC2^6> rokra: Hi.
[21:57] <rokra> Please how to change the time zone to UTC on gutsy? the comand tzconfig disappear?
[21:57] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: a better option is puppy linux.. it automagically looks for saved config on all your drives at bootup.. and it's designed to run in very little ram as well
[21:57] <jinxed-> glxinfo | grep direct
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <jinxed-> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:57] <nsa84> lol jinxed the same on my side
[21:57] <zcat[1]> !pastebin | jinxed-
[21:57] <ubotu> jinxed-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:57] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is it as established/popular as Knoppix?
[21:57] <fallore> my grub loader, which boots ubuntu and XP, started taking a much longer time to show the OS's yesterday. does anyone have any idea why this would happen?
[21:57] <jinxed-> sorry zcat
[21:57] <PuppiesOnAcid> when i am running the 7.10 LiveCD and i try to launch Terminal, i get kicked back to the login screen.  does anyone know why?
[21:57] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: pretty well known, yeah
[21:58] <quinton_> dr_willis, please continue.
[21:58] <ignus> can anyone help me upgrade the version of tracker i have installed to 0.6.4?
[21:58] <lgc> fallore, grub is a small program so it shouldn't take long at all.
[21:58] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Alright. I might check it out next.
[21:58] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What driver are you using?
[21:58] <fallore> lgc: thats why i'm worried, and it never used to take this long.
[21:58] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Thanks so far. :)
[21:59] <Hypergraphe> what does moving something out of line means ?
[21:59] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I have friends that run puppy on old laptops, with I think about 32 or 64M ram and stuff...
[21:59] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Any comments on the scary partioning stage of Install? :)
[21:59] <Hypergraphe> moves lexical bindings (BIND_EXPR) out of line
[21:59] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I suppose no Gnome then?
[21:59] <Ximal> is there a way to recover files I've sent to mytrash bin and emptied out of the trash been ? or logs to show ? that i could recover ?
[22:00] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: with puppy, it will just use whatever filesystem you already have.. not sure about ntfs but with fat32 it just makes a big file for itself that windows ignores..
[22:00] <lgc> fallore, is your disk doing fine?
[22:00] <jikuty> when I'm installing ubuntu (dualbooting vista and ubuntu7.04), a guide i'm using says that the summary should say "Vista/Longhorn (loader)" under "Migration Assistant" - my summary doesn't have this.. is Ubuntu not recognizing that windows exists?
[22:00] <nickrud> Ximal, if you emptied the trash, the files are gone
[22:00] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Well, simple file, clearly Windows would do anything about it.
[22:00] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its now saying that that installation step failed. can I skip it without problems or what should I do next?
[22:00] <fallore> lgc: to my knowledge. the other day linux wouldn't recognize the partition that windows was on, but i booted to windows right after that just fine
[22:00] <Ximal> but aren't they logged nickrud ?
[22:00] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it has a gui.. not gnome, I think it might be xfce
[22:00] <nickrud> Ximal, no, just deleted
[22:01] <Ximal> ok
[22:01] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But I was talking about the installer of Ubuntu. Might be interesting to see, nevertheless, but it started looking like it'd just zap all my partitions.
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  cd to the source dir that it made.. and read the install docs. The standard procedure is './configure' 'make' then 'sudo make install'
[22:01] <fallore> ZiNC2^6: yeah, i dont trust automatic, i always do it manually
[22:01] <EnderTheThird> If every device for my mobo is giving " nVidia Corporation Unknown device" in lspci, am I pretty much hosed?
[22:01] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, how do i tell which driver i am using i can't find it
[22:01] <jikuty> anyone know why the "Vista/Longhorn (loader)" line isn't coming up in the install summary for me?
[22:01] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, all it says is Nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[22:01] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Restricted drivers manage
[22:01] <eltux> I'm installing ubuntu on the computer next to me with the alternative cd and I'm on the part for select and install software and its now saying that that installation step failed. can I skip it without problems or what should I do next?
[22:01] <lgc> fallore, that means grub is fine, I think. Have you tried to fsck your disk lately?
[22:02] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: ahh yes, generally it's pretty safe.. 7.10 has a bug where sometimes it doesn't recognise the existing NTFS and offers to just use the whole drive by default.. not good :)
[22:02] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, all it says is Nvidia accelerated graphics driver
[22:02] <quinton_> dr_willis, I dont quiet understand, Im not used to a terminal still (being a user coming from windows) if you wouldnt mind to download this file and tell me exactly so I do not mess up please?
[22:02] <ZiNC2^6> fallore: If that's how is always is... scary. Would be much more reassuring if the initial radio buttons page would acknowledge the existence of the current partitions.
[22:02] <fallore> lgc: no, i dont know what that is, lol
[22:02] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I have multiple partitions there, some FAT32.
[22:02] <rodolfo> anyone?
[22:02] <XBehave> ive broken a driver is there anyway to restore it without compiling it? or atleast not compiling all the modules?
[22:02] <gerbia> I have installed the latest version of Wine and have commenced "winecfg" : yields error: err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo You need to set the "UseFastTls" option to "2" in your X config file. I set UseFastTls to 2, but I am still getting the same error. I need a way to fix this
[22:02] <nickrud> eltux, you should run the check disk on the startup screen, see if you have a corrupt file
[22:02] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: but if you pay attention and make sure it's saying 'rezise' or 'free space' somewhere, you should be OK
[22:02] <eltux> nickrud: ok
[22:02] <e67> Hello
[22:02] <robdeman> hi all, when I tell Postfix to use /usr/bin/procmail for local delivery (in order to get SpamAsassin working) then no mail is being delieverd anymore into my IMAP / Dovecot folders in ~Maildir/
[22:03] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No free space. And I wouldn't want to resize. But I canceled it before that stage... looked too fishy. Particularly with all the HDD activity.
[22:03] <robdeman> whenever I remove /usr/bin/procmail then it works again however - no SpamAssassin was invoked
[22:03] <lgc> fallore, fsck is an utility to check your filesystem. Do 'man fsck' to learn about its usage and then do that.
[22:03] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: So what, Ubuntu must have a dedicated partition? No file-on-FAT for HDD or something?
[22:03] <quinton_> dr_willis, or I could pastebin the instructions to you.
[22:03] <nickrud> robdeman, I have procmail drop them into my maildirs
[22:03] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: yes, it needs it's own partition..
[22:04] <A[D]minS> how i can reconfigure xorg with any tool under command line?
[22:04] <robdeman> nickrud: so procmail moes do this?
[22:04] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Didn't realize that. Alas.
[22:04] <nsa84> people jinxed and purpzey thanks for the first assistance, but i have to leave... maybe later we will be able to solve this problem on this side
[22:04] <quinton_> dr_willis, http://pastebin.ca/843104
[22:04] <fallore> lgc: what should i check with it?
[22:04] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: there are some distros that hide themselves in a big virtualfs file but ubuntu isn't one of them/..
[22:04] <quinton_> dr_willis, if that may help then theres the instructions.
[22:05] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: BTW, is there a GUI CRC/MD5er in Ubuntu? I can run things thru Nautilus, it seems.
[22:05] <jinxed-> any ideas PurpZeY ?
[22:05] <lgc> fallore, the sanity of your disk, or rather your filesystem.
[22:06] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: probably.. but I don't know what it's called :(
[22:06] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What does the restricted drivers manager say?
[22:06] <nickrud> robdeman, yes, I have # Catch-all rule for all unmatched email <nl> :0 <nl> $HOME/Maildir/  . Note the / at the end, VERY important, tells procmail it's a maildir type folder
[22:06] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6:  wubi can be used to install ubuntu to a file in a windows partition
[22:06] <XBehave> but that brings its own problems
[22:07] <robdeman> works!
[22:07] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, it says NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver with check box enabled with check in it. and status: in use with green check
[22:07] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:07] <Arthur> How would I run/compile python files?
[22:07] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: What problems? I saw it on the CD. But I thought everything can be done through Ubuntu itself too.
[22:07] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Do you have xgl running xserv?
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  those docs seem rather clear and detailed. There a specific part you are not understanding?
[22:07] <grayFalc1n> Hello everybody! Just wondering... I just compiled me a new kernel, and I need to make an initrd. But no mkinitrd is to be found... the usual package "initrd-tools" isn't known to apt-get either, though all my repositories seem to be OK. The only suggestion I could find online (update-initramfs) doesn't seem to exist either. So where do I get my mkinitrd?
[22:07] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Shouldn't I be able to run bash through Nautilus by doubleclicking it?
[22:08] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, i don't know what that means
[22:08] <PurpZeY> !xgl
[22:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:08] <nickrud> robdeman, then you can use procmail to sort into your folders, much easier than doing it by hand.  :0  * ^List-Id.*ubuntu-devel   $HOME/Maildir/.ubuntu.devel/  is another rule I have
[22:08] <quinton_> dr_willis, I am just not good at understanding directions, I sorry for so much trouble.
[22:08] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: or right-click, select 'run in terminal'  .. there should be a checkbox somewhere iirc
[22:08] <PurpZeY> nickrud: How do check if someone is running xgl x-server ?
[22:09] <PurpZeY> The nvidia....thing...
[22:09] <nickrud> PurpZeY,   ps -A | grep - xgl
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  open up a  shell. cd to the dir the source is in,  the commands are './configure' then 'make ' then 'sudo make install'
[22:09] <nickrud> PurpZeY, erm, grep -i xgl that is
[22:09] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: ps -A | grep -i xgl
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  unless your system has some of the specific cases/issues those readmens mention.
[22:09] <joseph_> Can someone go to System > Preferences >> Sessions >> Network-Manager (EDIT BUTTON) and show me the path of the network manager?
[22:10] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: wubi is unofficial, there are some hacks needed to get ubunutu to work in a file so there can be issues my only experience was bad but do able
[22:10] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:10] <PurpZeY> joseph_: Network manager is nm-applet
[22:10] <joseph_> PurpZeY, thanks!
[22:10] <quinton_> dr_willis, what do you mean to open a shell. dir?
[22:10] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: No such thing here. Only "open with application". I guess that goes along with the lack of menubar. Oh, well.
[22:10] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: you really should take a look at puppy, I'm sure it's much closer to what you're trying to achieve.
[22:10] <Arthur> Dr_Willis how do I run .py files?
[22:10] <jinxed-> i copied and ps -A | grep -i xgl and nothing happened
[22:11] <PurpZeY> Arthur: You have to make them executable. then ./nameoffile
[22:11] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: But I wanted to have a whole package to look at! But I will, if Knoppix 5 is not it in the end. :)
[22:11] <jengle_> hi everyone
[22:11] <uwo> hi all. i tried kde (and installed kde desktop trhough synaptic) - now on boot (before gdm) and shutdown i have a kubuntu screen (not ubuntu) - what is this screen called and how do i change back?
[22:11] <jinxed-> i copied and ps -A | grep -i xgl and nothing happened PurpZeY
[22:11] <newbie101> Hello, all! I have a question on installing a video card... I changed out my old video card on a Xubuntu 7.04 machine and replaced it with a 3dfx Voodoo 3. Now X won't start. I've been trying dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no dice so far. Question: Would it be easiest for me to just try a rescue with the liveCD?
[22:11] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: It's on the 7.10 CD, but unofficial? And what kind of problems? Destructive, or just... annoyances?
[22:11] <nickrud> !usplash | uwo
[22:11] <ubotu> uwo: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> quinton_:  if you dont understand the basics of the linux terminal. Its time to read some of the bash/shell/terminal starter guides.
[22:11] <jinxed-> I don't believe I am running any desktop effects i would like to eventually though
[22:11] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: I got it...so, no xgl....bear with
[22:11] <jengle_> i apologize if i'm asking in the wrong channel, but i want to know how i can change the resolution of ubuntu's login screen?
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> !bash |  quinton_
[22:11] <ubotu> quinton_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:11] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: 'k, just seems you're trying to push a round peg into a square hole a bit
[22:12] <quinton_> dr_willis, I would be glad to learn, I just need to fix my sound.
[22:12] <Arthur> PurpZeY I get permission denied, is there a way to bypass that like the sudo command does?
[22:12] <PurpZeY> nickrud: So, restricted drivers is telling him the card is working as Nvidia restricted, but he is low graphics mode and no xgl....What's the next step?
[22:12] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I can hope... I just was sure Ubuntu is just like Knoppix in this regard. I'll try it later on another computer with 384MB to see if I get the full GUI.
[22:12] <PurpZeY> Arthur: sudo is permisson
[22:12] <grayFalc1n> Ok, so if nobody knows where mkinitrd is on ubuntu... can I just use yaird as substitution? Does it do the exact same thing?
[22:12] <Strangework> I am using an HP Pavilion dv6426us, I am attempting to use the beta version of Skype, the program will not sense my webcam for some reason. Does anyone here have a remedy?
[22:13] <uwo> nickrud:tnx
[22:13] <newbie101> jengle_ I think this can be done by adjusting the default resolution in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[22:13] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: also run the disk self-test .. perhaps you burned it too fast and it's having trouble reading a few files?
[22:13] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Is my impression correct that Gnome seems much more solid than KDE?
[22:13] <Arthur> But if I do /sudo ./file.py it'll give me an error because of an invalid command
[22:13] <newbie101> jengle_ IIRC, the login screen is always at default resolution.
[22:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, oh, nvidia.  I do know he doesn't need xserver-xgl for nvidia to run compiz. And if he has one of the 8xxx series, the ubuntu nvidia isn't new enough
[22:13] <XBehave> ZiNC2^6: well i ran into problems that i wouldnt of been able to solve if i was new
[22:13] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I'd expect it to complain. But I checked the MD5s, at least those that are included on the CD (includes the main compressed FS and a bunch of others).
[22:13] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: What card?
[22:13] <nickrud> PurpZeY, but that's about all I know about nvidia
[22:14] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: my impression is that ubuntu is designed around gnome first and KDE as an afterthought.. so generally things work best with gnome-based ubuntu.
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: If your HDD/data wasn't touched, that's still not too bad.
[22:14] <PurpZeY> nickrud: If the Ubuntu drivers aren't new enough, the nvidia drivers are appropriate
[22:14] <PurpZeY> ?
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: I don't mean with Ubuntu specifically, but in general. I didn't like KDE much in Knoppix 4.
[22:14] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, I have a 16x PCI express Nvidia Geforce Go 6600 128 mb ram
[22:14] <jengle_> newbie101: can i change it?
[22:14] <nickrud> PurpZeY, unless he wants to run vesa without any acceleration at all ..
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Something about how things look, and how clearly it's drawn.
[22:14] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: it does complain, but not anywhere you see it.. somewhere on alt-F7 it'll be logging a bunch of errors :)
[22:14] <newbie101> Question: Are the 3dfx Voodoo drivers restricted?
[22:14] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: cleanly.
[22:14] <newbie101> jengle_ Yes, you should be able to.
[22:15] <jengle_> newbie101: any idea how?
[22:15] <newbie101> jengle_ Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[22:15] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Maybe with the normal GUI. Here it just switches to "drag window" mode.
[22:15] <nickrud> newbie101, no, they're waaaaay too old for that.
[22:15] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: You can try a dpkg-reconfigure but that's going to reset X on you.
[22:15] <XBehave> KDE and Gnome are both perfectly stable, kde3 uses less ram than gnome but if your woried about ram xfce is the best choice
[22:15] <jinxed-> PurpZeY, Already tried that
[22:15] <slugone> how do i install a BIN file ?
[22:15] <newbie101> nickrud If I can see the card in the output from lspci, that means the right driver is loaded, doesn't it?
[22:16] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: That's odd. Why does it use more? KDE looked more cluttered. And Knoppix with KDE says it only needs 96MB of RAM for basic operation.
[22:16] <PurpZeY> jinxed-: Hmmm...Have you tried to use nvidia's drivers? Other than that I'd say be bet is ask in #compiz-fusion b/c those guys know this stuff very very well
[22:16] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: mostly it's just personal preference.. they both have their strengths
[22:16] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: So the ultimate one would be a hybrid? :)
[22:16] <nickrud> newbie101, if you're trying to get compiz running, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d.
[22:16] <rodolfo> please someone!!!
[22:16] <newbie101> nickrud No, actually, I'm just trying to get X running. :) I just installed the card.
[22:16] <slugone> how do i execute a BIN file ?
[22:17] <nickrud> newbie101, and no, if you do  grep tdfx  /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and see Driver "tdfx" you're running the right driver
[22:17] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: I think redhat tried that... kinda universal GUI that wasn't really either
[22:17] <pvl1> when i try to put something into /etc/apt/sources.list, it tells me i dont have permision
[22:17] <caleb_> why doesn't this command work? I try to execute it from the terminal, I get this message: caleb@caleb-laptop:~/Desktop/elc-150$ gnome-open el.x86.linux.bin
[22:17] <caleb_> Error showing url: There is no default action associated with this location
[22:17] <robdeman> so ok I got Spam Assassin working now
[22:17] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: What was it called?
[22:17] <XBehave> slugone: it needs permision to run, then just type its location
[22:17] <newbie101> nick oh... it's the tdfx driver? I think that's my problem, then -- I told the config program to use voodoo. Many thanks!
[22:17] <robdeman> but where should I create the 'spam' folder for IMAP?
[22:17] <slugone> ????
[22:17] <robdeman> in $HOME/Maildir/ .. and then..?
[22:18] <slugone> how do i give it permission to run
[22:18] <nickrud> caleb_, because that .bin file is not a website
[22:18] <roman2k> somebody know where i can get this file 12B83718.gpg ???
[22:18] <grayFalc1n> Ok, nevermind... apparently yaird does the job perfectly, too.
[22:18] <zcat[1]> ZiNC2^6: can't remember. No idea what they do nowdays.. but for a while they had a nice desktop that was a mix of features from gnome and kde.
[22:18] <rodolfo> nickrud: hey i need some help...what file should i install when terminal says "No package xvmc found"? (x11proto-fonts-dev, x11proto-core-dev and xserver-xorg-dev are already installed)
[22:18] <ZiNC2^6> roman2k: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg ?
[22:18] <slugone> got it ty
[22:18] <caleb_> nickrud i can execute any other file. I deduced this didn't work because it doesn't have a setting to open in a program
[22:18] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Why didn't it stick? And, you think, are the highlights (and lows) of each?
[22:19] <nickrud> rodolfo, you can go to packages.ubuntu.com , and use the 'search for files in packages'
[22:19] <XBehave> slugone:  find its location and chmod o+x it i think
[22:19] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: +what
 file not found
[22:20] <eltux> nickrud: it failed. so that means I have to get a new iso image xD
[22:20] <newbie101> jengle_ I won't be on much longer, but I'd first try setting the default resolution using the settings manager (graphical interface). If that fails, you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and put the resolution you want to be default at the front of the list. The next reboot should come up at the right resolution.
[22:20] <jengle_> newbie101: sorry for the wait.. using latest
[22:20] <nickrud> caleb_, ah, gnome-open's got smarter now :) Yes, the file is intended to be executed rather than opened.    file <binfile> will tell you what kind of file it is
[22:20] <zcat[1]> 93% ...
[22:21] <robdeman> can anybody spam me please? haha need to test spamasassin
[22:21] <nickrud> !iso | eltux check for a good download, it's more likely to be the burn
[22:21] <ubotu> eltux check for a good download, it's more likely to be the burn: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[22:21] <ZiNC2^6> roman2k: Hmm... yeah. Maybe it was removed for a reason, I don't know.
[22:21] <nickrud> !md5 | eltux (shoulda gone with this first, I backspaced :)
[22:21] <ubotu> eltux (shoulda gone with this first, I backspaced :): To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[22:21] <rodolfo> nickrud: but thats the problem. i dont know what is missing here. or whatever dependency is still missing for xvmc.
[22:21] <caleb_> nickrud: file <binfile>???
[22:22] <nickrud> rodolfo, it's not in gutsy, anyway.
[22:22] <nickrud> caleb_, file  el.x86.linux.bin
[22:22] <rodolfo> nickrud: but...how do i get this solved? i sont know what im supposed to look for
[22:23] <nickrud> rodolfo, what are you expecting that file to do, first of all
[22:23] <caleb_> nickrud: so how do i execute it then?
[22:23] <nickrud> caleb chmod u+x <binfile> && ./<binfile>
[22:24] <newbie101> What's the right command to launch xserver from a terminal?
[22:24] <nickrud> rodolfo, it's not in ubuntu under that name, so function is next
[22:25] <Oli``> newbie101: from a proper terminal or a nested terminal in X (for nested X sessions)?
[22:25] <ConstyXIV> does flash memory suck any electricity when it's reading or idle?
[22:25] <newbie101> oli`` Um, a proper terminal, I guess? The kind you get when X fails to start.
[22:26] <nickrud> newbie101, after you made the driver change , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[22:26] <phosphoricx> When I suspend my audio doesn't work, so I have to unload the module (snd_ice1724) before and reload it after. However, this only works if no program is using the module before suspending. Anyone know how to fix that?
[22:26] <nickrud> newbie101, or restart, if it says it's already running
[22:26] <Oli``> newbie101: then: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:26] <newbie101> nickrud / Oli`` : Thanks to both of you -- that's two things I've learned today.
[22:26] <Oli``> newbie101: ah yes, you'll probably want start instead of restart
[22:27] <nickrud> newbie101, I really liked my voodoo3 in it's day, but it only does 3d in 16 bit, the colors look funky
[22:27] <quicksilver_> This is driving me a bit nutty... And Ive been googling for about an hour.... Does anybody know how to use SCIM to type Japanese into Firefox? I can type Japanese in any other application, みて、But not in Firefox.
[22:28] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this
[22:28] <Anderson1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:28] <rodolfo> nickrud: well i went on x.org to get the latest release of my Vdriver. i did and when running ./configure, this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50903/
[22:28] <brianski> hi, some of the packages on my install cd are corrupt... is there a way i can use this CD as a netinst cd?
[22:28] <newbie101> nickrud I just *had* to have it back in my heavy gaming days. I think I bought it mainly so Baldur's Gate II would run with all the effects. :)
[22:28] <newbie101> nickrud It's up and working now -- thanks very much for the info.
[22:28] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:28] <Anderson1> (just trying to get it all on one line there)
[22:28] <jcg42> I'm supposed to create a fake newspaper front page as a project for school. I'm guessing the best program for this is Scribus. Are there any other programs that I might use?
[22:29] <vocx> can anyone do "mkdir ~some_directory~" and confirm that the tildes make the directory invisible in nautilus?
[22:29] <toni_> ubuntu stores somewhere the info on the /  partition?
[22:29] <nickrud> rodolfo, I found http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjI2Ng
[22:29] <Anderson1> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50904/
[22:30] <nickrud> newbie101, yw, enjoy
[22:30] <toni_> Anderson1,  i have no idea :)
[22:30] <XBehave> is there a way to compile a single module? the guide im following compiles all of them
[22:30] <toni_> Anderson1, get the deb packages
[22:30] <Anderson1> toni_, Thanks anywho, I don't either.
[22:30] <Anderson1> toni_, I didn't think there was one
[22:30] <nickrud> newbie101, and if my memory serves me, I think it was baldurs gate I for me :)
[22:31] <simu> what application can I use to draw arrows and text into a png image
[22:31] <Anderson1> toni_,  I stand corrected, it must have been in the multiverse, which I just opened in my sources.list
[22:31] <Anderson1> or universe
[22:31] <toni_> Anderson1,  i dunno but there is
[22:31] <toni_> i got it by apt-get
[22:31] <Anderson1> toni_, installing now
[22:31] <toni_> Anderson1,  ggos :)
[22:31] <toni_> good
[22:33] <nickrud> Ximal, gimp
[22:33] <ZiNC2^6> zcat: Thanks for the help.
[22:33] <sandr-> whats the commandline way to empty the trash bin as root ?
[22:33] <nickrud> simu, gimp , sorry Ximal
[22:33] <chuy> /join #Maxtor
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> sandr-:  each user has their own trash directory
[22:33] <ZiNC2^6> XBehave: Thanks for the info.
[22:33] <toni_> sandr rm .trash/*
[22:33] <sandr-> k thanks
[22:33] <andromeda> hi
[22:34] <andromeda> i've a little problem
[22:34] <andromeda> i've add an user...
[22:34] <toni_> welcome in the club
[22:34] <nickrud> hi from this galaxy, andromeda
[22:34] <chuy> take a number
[22:34] <toni_> chuy,  did you solved?
[22:34] <andromeda> :D
[22:34] <andromeda> nickrud,
[22:34] <andromeda> :D
[22:34] <chuy> no...
[22:34] <XBehave> np
[22:34] <andromeda> cool!
[22:34] <andromeda> hahhaha
[22:34] <andromeda> i've a problem
[22:34] <vocx> !enter | andromeda
[22:34] <ubotu> andromeda: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:34] <speedbird> nickrud you there ?
[22:34] <jonaskoelker> question:  I want NetworkManager, when choosing a network (SSID) to connect to, to test for the presence of certain SSIDs and connect to those if present, or $ANY otherwise;  how can I do this?
[22:34] <chuy> I boot up without the IDE, and I get Windows.
[22:34] <rodolfo> nickrud: hm i think the article has something to do with the file i'm trying to install. they talk about the new features but there is no .deb files to dl
[22:34] <nickrud> speedbird, sure
[22:34] <chuy> I boot up with the IDE, and GRUB stalls out
[22:34] <andromeda> i' wont to do at my new user the admin controll
[22:35] <andromeda> how i can to do this?
[22:35] <speedbird> nickrud : man i have another problem now :P
[22:35] <whoaje> I have a upgrade question for the latest ubuntu distro....I have my laptop dual booted with xp and was wondering how safe it is to upgrade my ubuntu distro ?
[22:35] <toni_> andromeda,  is this user called root?
[22:35] <andromeda> no
[22:35] <nickrud> rodolfo, no, it's so dang new it's still in the developers repositories. I don't know enough about X to really help with this
[22:35] <Praveen> whoaje: im pretty sure its quite safe
[22:35] <andromeda> is not the user called root..
[22:35] <andromeda> is an other user...
[22:35] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: I'd say it's perfectly safe unless you have a particular reason to believe otherwise
[22:36] <toni_> andromeda, you want to be as if he is root?
[22:36] <andromeda> yes
[22:36] <Praveen> whoaje: it willl just upgrade the kernel and stuff and write new lines into the grub
[22:36] <speedbird> nickrud I cant install pidgin i get this error that i have gaim installed and something like that.
[22:36] <toni_> andromeda,  idon't think is a good idea
[22:36] <whoaje> praveen, I am using the windows boot loader for the dual boot
[22:36] <rodolfo> nickrud: its ok. can you recommend some X-related forum or FAQ? (i've already read the X.org's FAQ)
[22:36] <nickrud> speedbird, I don't know much at all about pidgin, never used it
[22:36] <whoaje> still thinks its alright?
[22:36] <Praveen> whoaje: then you might have a problem.
[22:37] <speedbird> oh alright i m trying to find something on ubuntu forums :)
[22:37] <Praveen> speedbird: you might want to purge your gaim installation
[22:37] <andromeda> ok..
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: except for perhaps grub, I can't imagine how one OS would affect the other, and AIUI, the updates to grub are on the linux partition, not in the boot sectors
[22:37] <toni_> speedbird,  you have to remove gaim
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: ... so, you're safe
[22:37] <speedbird> toni i tried but that gives me some error too
[22:37] <jonaskoelker> whoaje: that is (as it always is) if the software is Bug Free (tm) ;)
[22:37] <toni_> speedbird,  pastebin  the errors
[22:38] <Raism> hi everyone.... can anyone plz give me some help with my tvtuner ??
[22:38] <nickrud> rodolfo, you could try subscribing to http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg , and asking there. No promises, though. Sometimes the developers of projects are helpful, sometimes not
[22:38] <roman2k> somebody was using Wine for CS 1.6?
[22:38] <whoaje> ha, yeah....ok, thanks, I'll just be cautious with it...
[22:38] <toni_> cs?
[22:38] <speedbird> toni_, ok hold on
[22:38] <toni_> yes
[22:38] <jonaskoelker> Raism: I probably can't, but if you're more specific, probably someone else can :)
[22:38] <roman2k> Counter Strike =)
[22:38] <Praveen> speedbird: the #pidgin channel is open if you want tot go there. seems less busy than this
[22:38] <toni_> roman2k, omg :)
[22:38] <rodolfo> nickrud: good idea. thank you :)
[22:38] <jonaskoelker> Raism: say, you could tell what the problem is
[22:38] <nickrud> andromeda, you want to give a new user admin privileges? Nothing wrong with it, if you want them to have it
[22:39] <Raism> yes jonas
[22:39] <speedbird> Parveen, oh that would be perfect then .. i m going there thx :D
[22:39] <ubuntu> hola
[22:39] <vocx> Can anyone try "mkdir ~some_directory~" and confirm that the tildes make the directory invisible in nautilus? Is this a known issue?
[22:39] <jonaskoelker> can anyone help me with network manager?
[22:39] <ubuntu> en español
[22:39] <ubuntu> nadie ?
[22:39]  * nickrud goes off to watch the seahawks demolish the redskins
[22:39] <Raism> i have pinacle usb2 tv tuner...from gstreamer and video i can see my tuner...but no singla form tvtime
[22:39] <andromeda> yes nickrud
[22:39] <whoaje> thanks for the help, guys
[22:39] <andromeda> i've to do this now..
[22:39] <andromeda> i try
[22:39] <yeyosss> hi
[22:40] <vocx> !es | ubuntu
[22:40] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:40] <ZiNC2^6> ubuntu: hi.
[22:40] <ubuntu> alguien que hable español
[22:40] <sarah> hi! flash plays but without sound and im at a loss how to troubleshot
[22:40] <sarah> shoot\
[22:40] <jonaskoelker> vocx: mkdir "~tmp~", nautilus &, I see no ~tmp~
[22:40] <nickrud> andromeda, in a terminal as the first user,  sudo adduser <newusername> admin
[22:40] <slipttees> hey
[22:40] <vocx> jonaskoelker, thanks, I just recently discovered this. Is it a bug?
[22:40] <Praveen> hablo puqueno espanol
[22:40] <slipttees> i have some problem with fluxbuntu
[22:41] <slipttees> don't have repo ??
[22:41] <jonaskoelker> vocx: I say it's a bug; I don't know whether it's filed/known/fixed-upstream/..., though
[22:41] <jonaskoelker> sarah: playing sound generally works, yes?
[22:41] <ribow> s
[22:41] <ribow> alo alo
[22:41] <sarah> jonaskoelker: ya
[22:42] <ribow> francais
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> !fr
[22:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:42] <vocx> jonaskoelker, usually these issues are addressed in the launchpad page, but I found nothing relevant. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus
[22:42] <andromeda> now it works...
[22:42] <andromeda> thanks!
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> vocx: I'd say file it, then ;)
[22:42] <denny> when totem-xine segfaults on attempting to play a DVD, what do I need to look at?
[22:42] <dubbydubby> hey
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> sarah: does playing sound in firefox work?
[22:42] <sarah> ya
[22:42] <ribow> tu parl francais
[22:42] <jonaskoelker> !fr | ribow
[22:42] <ubotu> ribow: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:42] <PurpZeY> !fr | ribow
[22:43] <jonaskoelker> sarah: hmm...
[22:43] <sarah> my thoughts xactly
[22:43] <ribow> alo alo
[22:43] <jonaskoelker> sarah: I've heard about 64-bit issues with flash, but ISTR that it's "does not exist"... are you on a 64-bit box?
[22:44] <sarah> no... i DID manually install flash though, apt get didnt have it
[22:44] <dubbydubby> anyone, when trying to do the flashplugin-nonfree im getting an error about nspluginwrapper not being able to locate libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[22:44] <vocx> !away > S0rin
[22:44] <dubbydubby> can someone help?
[22:44] <sarah> maybe it does now and overwrote breaking
[22:44] <ribow> kel k1 e french
[22:44] <Stwange> I get an I/O error when trying to empty my wastebasket, any idea how I can purge any corrupt items?
[22:44] <jonaskoelker> sarah: my `aptitude search flash` gives me (among others) flashplugin-nonfree
[22:44] <Ax-Ax> how do i make my new hdd a part of the filesystem?
[22:44] <ribow> salutation belle compani
[22:45] <jonaskoelker> sarah: and the sound has worked fine with that (although it's been slightly crashy)
[22:45] <Praveen> god dman. this room is so busy.
[22:45] <tuxice> yo
[22:45] <ribow> yo mane
[22:45] <tuxice> how do i get qemu to work
[22:45] <HalfbakedDUKE> Everytime i try to install ubuntu i get a APIC error
[22:45] <tuxice> ?
[22:45] <jonaskoelker> sarah: so I'd recommend adding "restricted" and "universe" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:45] <HalfbakedDUKE> any ideas how to install it?
[22:45] <sarah> jonaskoelker: at one point adobe had removed the .deb so the package would be added but no plugin
[22:45] <tuxice> half baked - bake your pie completly then trie again :)
[22:45] <Strangework> Harro, a moment ago, I setup Skype to work on my computer, I have managed to get a the webcam feature working. I am now wondering if I could show what is going on on my desktop instead of looking through my webcam. I have gtk-recordMydesktop setup, could that contribute? :D
[22:46] <jonaskoelker> sarah: oh... have you tried it recently?
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> tuxice:  you have read its docs?  It can be a bit detailed - dependong on what you are doing.
[22:46] <sarah> so i had to get the .tar.gz from adobe
[22:46] <Ax-Ax> how do i include my new hdd in the filesystem?
[22:46] <sarah> nope i will now
[22:46] <ribow> si tul di
[22:46] <atoponce> is the gutsy kernel tickless for x86_64?
[22:46] <atoponce> seems to me i read that it was not
[22:46] <ribow> tou ta fe
[22:46] <atoponce> only for i386
[22:46] <tuxice> ya i read the docs i think my iso is f******
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> Ax-Ax:  fdisk it to make the partitions, format the filesystems, Mount them where you want by editing /etc/fstab
[22:46] <jonaskoelker> hi, atoponce :)
 I get an I/O error when trying to empty my wastebasket, any idea how I can purge any corrupt items?
[22:46] <ribow> * elenor (n=elenor@p1112-ipad208akatuka.ibaraki.ocn.ne.jp) a rejoint #ubuntu
 sarah: my `aptitude search flash` gives me (among others) flashplugin-nonfree
[22:46] <ribow> * HalfbakedDUKE (n=Killabee@c-24-30-4-177.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) a rejoint #ubuntu
[22:46] <ribow> * elenor est parti (Client Quit)
[22:46] <sarah> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version
 salutation belle compani
 how do i make my new hdd a part of the filesystem?
[22:46] <atoponce> jonaskoelker: :)
[22:46] <ribow> * tuxice (n=tuxice@CPE000f3d5a4d4b-CM0018c0d8b7e6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) a rejoint #ubuntu
 sarah: and the sound has worked fine with that (although it's been slightly crashy)
 god dman. this room is so busy.
[22:46] <vocx> !ops
[22:46] <ribow> * amidaniel (n=amidanie@wikipedia/AmiDaniel) a rejoint #ubuntu
[22:46] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
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[22:46] <ribow> * rkd (n=rday@www.thedayfamily.org.uk) a rejoint #ubuntu
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[22:47] <ribow> * ploom est parti (Remote closed the connection)
[22:47] <atoponce> ribow: knock it off
[22:47] <toni_> someone experienced in partions?
[22:47] <PriceChild> atoponce, not helpful, once you start pasting, you can't stop
[22:47] <tuxice> lol actually you can fdisk in microsuck winblows (what a bunch of pissin copycats)
[22:47] <Stwange> lol thanks to ribow at least my question is repeated :)
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> toni_:  may want to as a little more detailed question.
[22:47] <Praveen> wtf
[22:47] <atoponce> true
[22:47] <tuxice> my email is Tux.Ice@gmail.com - if yur trying to email me
[22:48] <sarah> jonaskoelker: it says its installed, purge and reinstall?
[22:48] <tuxice> ok next question - anybody here a graphic designer (other than me)
[22:48] <jonaskoelker> sarah: yeah, I'd do that
[22:48] <atoponce> so, anyone know about the gutsy kernel being tickless in x86_64?
[22:48] <sarah> not professionally tuxice
[22:48] <toni_> right, i move my entire / from sda2(5gb)  to sda3(bigger) using rsyc. I've corrected fstab and grub. Rebooted and all is good except the sda3 seen with same size of older one
[22:49] <tuxice> im not professionall either
[22:49] <tuxice> not at 14
[22:49] <jonaskoelker> tuxice: get a job! ;)
[22:49] <tuxice> naybody wanna help develop an operating system
[22:49] <tuxice> based on the linux kernel
[22:49] <PurpZeY> !ot | tuxice
[22:49] <ubotu> tuxice: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:49] <ompaul> tuxice, we have one
[22:50] <tuxice> with a new desktop manager, theme, icon pack, boot scree, live environment, and cursor
[22:50] <tuxice> same file system
[22:50] <Strangewor1> Harro, a moment ago, I setup Skype to work on my computer, I have managed to get a the webcam feature working. I am now wondering if I could show what is going on on my desktop instead of looking through my webcam. I have gtk-recordMydesktop setup, could that contribute? :D
[22:50] <sarah> tuxice: more of a desktop enviornment than os
[22:50] <jonaskoelker> tuxice: I think I'd call that "developing a new look-and-feel for linux" when trying to recruit followers
[22:50] <kebinusan> bleh trying to get two displays of different resolutions working is kind of a pain in the ass
[22:51] <d1p> tuxice, new cursor?) sounds great)
[22:51] <atoponce> i guess a better question would be: how can i test if my existing kernel is tickless?
[22:51] <AspiringSociopat> hello
[22:51] <jonaskoelker> tuxice: there's generally much aversion towards diversifying linux, seeing as how it's quite diverse already
[22:51] <toni_> atoponce,  powertop
[22:51] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anyone know of a tool to record pc session to a video file for tutorial demos / screencasts?
[22:51] <sarah> tuxice: KDE, GNOME fluxbox enlightenment would be other examples of what your talking about
[22:51] <jonaskoelker> atoponce: less /boot/config-2.6.*
[22:51] <HalfbakedDUKE> at 14 i was too busy chasing skirt and playing sports to care about building a linux distro
[22:51] <atoponce> jonaskoelker: what would i be looking for?
[22:52] <jonaskoelker> atoponce: I think 'HZ'
[22:52] <pvl1> how do i copy directories in the terminal
[22:52] <jonaskoelker> pvl1: cp -r
[22:52] <pvl1> er whats the option for cp
[22:52] <AspiringSociopat> how is everyone today?
[22:52] <pvl1> jonaskoelker,thanks
[22:52] <jonaskoelker> AspiringSociopat: fine
[22:52] <TransFXB> fine
[22:52] <tuxic2> anybody?
[22:52] <TransFXB> for?
[22:52] <jonaskoelker> against?
[22:52] <jonaskoelker> ;)
[22:52] <tuxic2> wtf? why is my user tuxic2
[22:53] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Anyone know of a tool to record pc session to a video file for tutorial demos / screencasts?
[22:53] <tuxic2> it should be tux ice
[22:53] <Strangewor1> connection error
[22:53] <Strangewor1> same here
[22:53] <jonaskoelker> tuxic2: presumably because you connected twice to freenode
[22:53] <Strangework> there
[22:53] <AspiringSociopat> last time i installed ubuntu i remember a effect like a box
[22:53] <Strangework> type in "/nick tuxice"
[22:53] <AspiringSociopat> where you could drag to another screen
[22:53] <HalfbakedDUKE> tuxic2: if you cant figure that out, dont try building a OS
[22:53] <Strangework> tuxic2: type /nick tuxice
[22:53] <Ax-Ax> how do i know which uid my hdd has?
[22:53] <Strangework> Harro, a moment ago, I setup Skype to work on my computer, I have managed to get a the webcam feature working. I am now wondering if I could show what is going on on my desktop instead of looking through my webcam. I have gtk-recordMydesktop setup, could that contribute? :D
[22:53] <jonaskoelker> HalfbakedDUKE: ignorant about IRC != unable to build OS
[22:54] <tuxic2> lol
[22:54] <jeff__> I can't get Xvid avi files to play properly even though I've installed the restricted extras and the vlc packages already. What am I missing?
[22:54] <Strangework> jonaskoelker: Tru dat brutha
[22:54] <jonaskoelker> HalfbakedDUKE: ... although there's probably some correlation
[22:54] <tuxic2> hello
[22:54] <tuxic2> t
[22:54] <tuxic2> tux.ice = tuxice
[22:54]  * toni_ bonging his head on the table
[22:54] <tuxic2> tuxice = tuxic2
[22:54] <jonaskoelker> any NetworkManager-knowledable fella' in 'ere?
[22:54] <tuxic2> irc is fuc*ed
[22:55] <tuxic2> hey are there any ubuntuforum admins here?
[22:55] <jonaskoelker> tuxic2: I don't think IRC reproduces sexually... ;)
[22:55] <tuxic2> lol
[22:55] <PriceChild> tuco_, yes, see me in #ubuntuforums please
[22:55] <ConstyXIV> on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being freakin' hard), how easy is it to set up a mail server in ubuntu?
[22:55] <tuxic2> price child
[22:55] <HalfbakedDUKE> lol @ tuxic2
[22:55] <HalfbakedDUKE> noob
[22:55] <tuxic2> whats it take to become an admin?
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> is this a help channel or something?
[22:56] <jonaskoelker> ConstyXIV: 10 minus your own leetness ;)
[22:56] <tuxic2> lolios
[22:56] <jonaskoelker> AspiringSociopat: yeah
[22:56] <PriceChild> tuxic2, #ubuntuforums please
[22:56] <tuxic2> seriously
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> cool
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> AspiringSociopat:  thats what the topic says. :)
[22:56] <PriceChild> !support | AspiringSociopat
[22:56] <ubotu> AspiringSociopat: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> oh
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> i didnt see it
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> getting use to this program
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> pidgin?
[22:56] <AspiringSociopat> kind of alien
[22:56] <themoebius> hey, where is the apache config file? Its supposed to be /etc/apache2/http.conf, but its not there
[22:56] <HalfbakedDUKE> i use pidgin
[22:56] <HalfbakedDUKE> i <3 it
[22:57] <jonaskoelker> echo $TOPIC > /home/AspiringSociopat # ;)
[22:57] <AspiringSociopat> yeah its pretty cool
[22:57] <AspiringSociopat> i wonder if pidgen has an xfire plugin
[22:57] <HalfbakedDUKE> hmmm
[22:57] <HalfbakedDUKE> good question
[22:57] <HalfbakedDUKE> i doubt it tho
[22:57] <jonaskoelker> themoebius: look for /etc/apache2/*conf*, what do you see?
[22:57] <toni_> i use pidgin too
[22:57] <PriceChild> themoebius, do you have it installed? :/
[22:58] <HalfbakedDUKE> once pidgin gets webcam support it will be the best
[22:58] <jonaskoelker> PriceChild: is that the "check the cable" kinda' answer? ;)
[22:58] <th0r> themoebius the file is httpd.conf
[22:58] <HalfbakedDUKE> that way i can see girls n00dz
[22:58] <PriceChild> Jon855, indeed
[22:58] <PriceChild> th0r, gah, missed that one. wd
[22:58] <PriceChild> !tab | themoebius
[22:58] <ubotu> themoebius: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:59] <themoebius> there's apache2.conf, ports.conf and conf.d directory
[22:59] <Ace2016> Hi all
[22:59] <Ace2016> how do you make a gtk pixmap theme?
[22:59] <jonaskoelker> themoebius: I'd go with apache2.conf then
[22:59] <HalfbakedDUKE> ubotu: your wisdom is uncanny mr bot
[22:59] <jonaskoelker> themoebius: but look in all of them, just to see what's in them :)
[22:59] <Ace2016> i've never made one before, i need help on where to get started and where to get images
[22:59] <Raism> can someone help me with my tvtuner plz ??
[22:59] <themoebius> mmm alright
[22:59] <jonaskoelker> all right my friends, I'm out... gl & hf
[23:00] <UBUNTUISLOVED> found one gtk-recordmydesktop
[23:00] <joegiampaoli> hi all has anyone have problems with login manager when display goes to sleep?
[23:00] <HalfbakedDUKE> Rasim: reboot to your xp partition and try it on windows
[23:00] <tuxic2> im using pidgin
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> Raism:  what have you done with it? what kind is it// what hae you tried so far?
[23:00] <Strangework> jonaskoelker: Tru dat brutha
[23:00] <tuxic2> im here to help with support
[23:00] <Strangework> Harro, a moment ago, I setup Skype to work on my computer, I have managed to get a the webcam feature working. I am now wondering if I could show what is going on on my desktop instead of looking through my webcam. I have gtk-recordMydesktop setup, could that contribute? :D
[23:01] <vocx> Can anyone try "mkdir ~some_directory~" and confirm that the tildes make the directory invisible in nautilus? Is this a known issue? Does it look like a bug?
[23:01] <HalfbakedDUKE> Strangework, you wont need to show threw your webcam if you use vnc or logmein.com
[23:01] <AspiringSociopat> can anyone help me convert to iso?
[23:01] <nickrud> Strangework, what webcam are you using (not to help with your problem, just looking for a decent cam)
[23:01] <AspiringSociopat> im a total nub to ubuntu
[23:01] <AspiringSociopat> well not total
[23:01] <AspiringSociopat> but still very new
[23:01] <Strangework> nickrud: It is built into my laptop, sorry! :P
[23:01] <Raism> Dr_Willis: it's a pinacle usb2... my systems seems to recognize it but i have no picture from tvtime
[23:01]  * nickrud mutters about never getting decent info ;(
[23:01] <gob1029> Quick question, what's the easiest way to mount ISOs in Ubuntu?
[23:02] <devkid> hi, i've got a problem with sane, it only allowes me to use my scanner as root
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !iso | gob1029
[23:02] <ubotu> gob1029: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:02] <PriceChild> vocx, i'm not positive that's creating a directory as/where you think it is?
[23:02] <Strangework> HalfbakedDUKE: Yah, but I am using Skype
[23:02] <wols> nickrud: you talk like you're new here... sheesh
[23:02] <ZiNC2^6> !md5
[23:02] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[23:02] <HalfbakedDUKE> strangework: but why use skype if you dont have 2?
[23:02] <gob1029> thanks much :)
[23:02] <jeff__> I can't seem to get xvids to play properly. I think I've got all the packages needed but the screen is still black. any advice?
[23:02] <Strangework> HalfbakedDUKE: excuse me?
[23:02] <vocx> PriceChild, just create a directory surrounded by tildes and nautilus doesn't show it, but you can have access to it through the terminal.
[23:03] <AspiringSociopat> wtf
[23:03] <Elive_user75> read about ubuntu with enlightenemnt but cannot find a link for it
[23:03] <PriceChild> vocx, "feature". press ctrl+h to see hidden folders.
[23:03] <devkid> does anyone know about this problem? :(
[23:04] <ZiNC2^6> devkid: Not I.
[23:04] <eltux> !enlightenemnt
[23:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enlightenemnt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:04] <angel_> so i am assuming fat32 can not handle LN (links)?
[23:04] <eltux> what's your problem devkid?
[23:04] <vocx> PriceChild, I know that names starting with a dot are "hidden" but didn't know that those with tildes were too. Are you sure?
[23:04] <pvl1> how can i add stuff the menues?
[23:04] <PriceChild> vocx, well it seems so :)
[23:04] <PriceChild> vocx, the folder isn't ignored by nautilus
[23:04] <devkid> eltux, sane only allowes me accessing my scanner as root
[23:05] <th0r> sudo mc
[23:05] <th0r> oops
[23:05] <tuxic2> yo price child so admins are chosen like you dont sign up to be one you just login one day and poof - admin?
[23:05] <devkid> eltux, i already did chmod -R 777 /dev/bus/usb
[23:05] <iddo> anyone here using urxvt.urlLauncher ? i'm trying to get it to work
[23:05] <eltux> devkid: did you install it under root or was it found automatically?
[23:05] <tuxic2> dont sudo rm /rf anything EVER!
[23:05] <erik__> devkid, there is a setting in a file somewhere
[23:05] <iddo> i did apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-clickable-perl
[23:06] <devkid> erik__, you mean udev?
[23:06] <erik__> i think a sane config file or something
[23:06] <tuxic2> try sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-clickable-perl
[23:06] <angel_> so i am assuming fat32 can not handle LN (links)?
[23:06] <devkid> eltux, i used a sane backend from a sf project
[23:06] <erik__> i remember setting it so you don't have to be root
[23:06] <wols> angel_: you're right
[23:06] <iddo> yes i installed it with sudo
[23:06] <Xintruder> Hi!!!!
[23:06] <iddo> anyone using urxvt here?
[23:06] <Xintruder> <3 ubuntu
[23:06] <eltux> devkid: you've lost me I'm sorry I don't know about this problem. :\
[23:07] <wols> !anyone < iddo
[23:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone < iddo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:07] <wols> !anyone | iddo
[23:07] <ubotu> iddo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:07] <angel_> wols: so i guess i'll add a new harddrive, make it ext3 and then copy all my stuff over. is it that simple?
[23:07] <wols> angel_: is what that simple?
[23:07] <eltux> !botcookie
[23:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botcookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:07] <eltux> :o
[23:08] <angel_> wols: converting to a file system that supports LN
[23:08] <tuxic2> hello
[23:08] <insomninja> hi
[23:08] <wols> angel_: pretty much yes
[23:08] <angel_> wols: wait a sec, so all my files in the fat32 drive are open for anyone to play with?
[23:08] <eltux> hello, insomninja: welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:08] <TuxIce> Go Tux
[23:09] <eltux> :D
[23:10] <wols> angel_: FAT has no permissions. who evre mounts the drive can read it. depending how you mount it
[23:10] <TuxIce> go to Techotec.com
[23:10] <TuxIce> its my website!!!!
[23:10] <Dbproguy> wow a channel with 1200+ people and only 1 op?
[23:10] <eltux> TuxIce: only if you go to mine: prespawn.net
[23:11] <TuxIce> eltux: deal
[23:11] <nickrud> Dbproguy, they lurk
[23:11] <Dbproguy> lol
[23:11] <sarah> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[23:11] <sarah> The Flash plugin is NOT installed
[23:11] <rokra> How to conf the timezone on UTC? on gutsy?
[23:11] <TuxIce> the website is down
[23:11] <TuxIce> go to mine everybody
[23:11] <matt12321> anyone know how to force ubuntu to prefer a wireless connection upon boot?
[23:11] <nickrud> !brokenflash | sarah
[23:11] <ubotu> sarah: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[23:11] <vocx> Dbproguy, ops are there, but its policy to only use superpowers when they need to.
[23:12] <khermans> matt12321, edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[23:12] <angel_> wols: repeast your last transmission i got disc
[23:12] <wols> angel_: FAT has no permissions. who evre mounts the drive can read it. depending how you mount it
[23:13] <Dbproguy> whats the latest ubuntu release?
[23:13] <ZiNC2^6> 7.10?
[23:13] <hebbe> 7.10
[23:13] <Dbproguy> kay time to download again i guess
[23:13] <nickrud> vocx,  in other words, they lurk ;p
[23:13] <Dbproguy> i still have 6.10 :(
[23:13] <eltux> dbproguy: ubuntu 7.10 codnamed Gutsy Gibbon is the newest release
[23:13] <ZiNC2^6> The site is pretty clear.
[23:13] <vocx> nickrud, YES!
[23:14] <eltux> lol ZinC2^6
[23:14] <matt12321> khermans, so if i just put the wlan0 interface a few lines above the eth1 interface, it should prefer the wireless first?
[23:14] <ZiNC2^6> What, no? :)
[23:14] <khermans> matt12321, remove the auto interface oh eth0
[23:15] <matt12321> i just have l0, eth1, eth2, ath0, and then wlan0
[23:15] <matt12321> in that order
[23:15] <khermans> matt12321, well remove the "auto" lines for all the interfaces you dont want to dhcp on boot
[23:15] <quinton_> I recently installed and registered adobe photoshop 7.0 by using wine. how would I find this program and run it?
[23:15] <khermans> matt12321, man interfaces
[23:16] <khermans> quinton_, ~/.wine/drive_c//
[23:16] <matt12321> khermans, i still want dhcp, i just want it to use wireless if the wired connections fail
[23:16] <bundagan> anybody here tried using the nvidia CG compiler in ubuntu?
[23:16] <khermans> matt12321, NetworkManager should handle all that
[23:16] <matt12321> networkmanager?
[23:16] <quinton_> khermans, i tried that in terminal and it did not  do anything
[23:16] <atoponce> why is my / partition in /etc/fstab a long hash, rather than just /dev/sda1?
[23:17] <khermans> !networkmanager | matt12321
[23:17] <ubotu> matt12321: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[23:17] <atoponce> same with /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[23:17] <khermans> quinton_, that is the wine directory -- man wine
[23:17] <khermans> !wine | quinton_
[23:17] <ubotu> quinton_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:18] <quinton_> khermans, I am in the adobe driectory in wine c drive and I see nothing to run the programs
[23:18] <lucian> alright... im going to have to have a windows partition for school. so, i have installed gparted and am going to create the ntfs partition myself. After i re-install xp (:[) how do i put grub back on. I know once i install windows xp grub will no longer appear and therefore, i wont be able to boot in to ubuntu
[23:19] <vocx> !grub | lucian
[23:19] <ubotu> lucian: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:19] <th0r> lucian give me a sec to pastebin it
[23:19] <kyleBAKED> is there a way to get true terminal transparency?
[23:19] <lucian> k thnx
[23:19] <knoppix> hello, I want to set up a server for webhosting, can I make something simmilar to cpanel and plesk based hoastings out of free software?
[23:20] <TuxIce> everybody join #techo
[23:20] <djcabz> sorry to be in the dark regarding this, but is it usual or expected that compiz.real will gobble up 990MB RAM?
[23:20] <OD810> djcabz: there must be something wrong
[23:20] <th0r> lucian may help...may not....   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50906/
[23:20] <Pici> TuxIce: Please dont do that in here, this is a support channel.
[23:21] <djcabz> OD810:  I would agree...
[23:21] <lucian> thnx
[23:21] <khermans> !compiz | kyleBAKED
[23:21] <ubotu> kyleBAKED: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:21] <knoppix> Is there an ubuntu server guide or something to help get started?
[23:21] <OD810> Is there anyway to set up VMWare to run Ubuntu on existing partition?
[23:21] <ivery> Evening everyone
[23:21] <djcabz>  5723 cbarbet   15   0  997m 990m 6696 S  1.3 48.9   7:35.54 compiz.real
[23:21] <TuxIce> ok ok
[23:21] <tomas_> !sound
[23:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:21] <vocx> knoppix, searching the forums always helps.
[23:22] <djcabz> that is from top...
[23:22] <khermans> OD810, yes
[23:22] <OD810> khermans: can you point out some direction for me?
[23:22] <ivery> Anyone familar with Lbreakout...need to remove improper language from the game files?
[23:23] <khermans> OD810, setup vmware to use an existing partition
[23:23] <Pici> ivery: You can sumbit a bug if you think it is warranted.
[23:23] <khermans> OD810, or raw disk
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> ivery: You can disable talk in settings
[23:23] <racchia> hi
[23:23] <ivery> thanks
[23:23] <Pici> !bugs | ivery
[23:23] <ubotu> ivery: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> improper language in lbreakout? It has language?
[23:23] <khermans> !hi | racchia
[23:23] <ubotu> racchia: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:23] <OD810> khermans: so i just create the virtual machine point to the Ubuntu partition?
[23:24] <khermans> OD810, yep
[23:24] <ivery> Thnaks
[23:24] <Odd-rationale> Dr_Willis: Just some cursing...
[23:24] <Stummvoll> Hello.. I am looking for an linux tool to recover the passwort of an protected openoffice-document (writer)
[23:24] <racchia> nice to meet you!!!!
[23:24] <eltux> :o you were slacking khermans xD
[23:24] <khermans> OD810, you might need RAW disk mode, google that
[23:24] <OD810> khermans: thanks
[23:24] <sgraham3> any way to install .bin fies with checkinstall
[23:24] <Stummvoll> *password
[23:24] <khermans> Stummvoll, brute force it?
[23:24] <eltux> racchia: anything that we can help you out with today?
[23:24] <lauren> for some reason my screensaver stopped working... works fine when i preview though, anyone know whats up?
[23:24] <khermans> eltux, what!?!?1
[23:24] <AspiringSociopat> ugh
[23:25] <khermans> OD810, np
[23:25] <Stummvoll> khermans: maybe... but is there ab tool for that?
[23:25] <eltux> khermans: you used the bot instead of typing it out xD
[23:25] <djcabz> Can someone point me in the direction of tracking down this memory leak in compiz?
[23:25] <AspiringSociopat> your screen wants to die
[23:25] <Stummvoll> *an
[23:25] <OD810> khermans: can i just use VMWARE player cos VMWare server messed up in my Windows
[23:25] <khermans> Stummvoll, not that i know of specifically
[23:25] <racchia> no thanks. It was only for introduce myself.....
[23:25] <khermans> eltux, hehe
[23:25] <eltux> khermans: no cookies for you! lol
[23:26] <lauren> AspiringSociopat, so i have a suicidal CRT? guess thats a good reason to upgrade to a LCD eh :)
[23:26] <khermans> djcabz, valgrind
[23:26] <OD810> lol valgrind
[23:26] <eltux> lauren: as long as you don't leave your lcd on for hours on end and get lcd burn xD
[23:26] <khermans> OD810, no you need vmware server fo rthat feature
[23:26] <fallore> my grub loader, which boots ubuntu and XP, started taking a much longer time to show the OS's yesterday. does anyone have any idea why this would happen?
[23:27] <tomas_> anyone here that has alc850 sound chip ? having some serious trouble with it :o
[23:27] <lauren> eltux, its a CRT right now
[23:27] <djcabz> khermans:  valgrind, you think so.  I'm not so good with performance monitors in nix...
[23:27] <racchia> what program do you use to chat? I use xchat...
[23:27] <khermans> !cookies
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <eltux> fallore: do you have a ipod?
[23:27] <lauren> and its in my bedroom, so i dont want it on at night
[23:27] <djcabz> or debuggers for that matter.
[23:27] <OD810> khermans: how do i create virtual machine configuration, i'm very new on this
[23:27] <lauren> eitherway, it was working before, i dont know if a patch killed it or whats up
[23:27] <eltux> lauren: yes I am aware of that but, I'm just saying that It can happen
[23:27] <khermans> djcabz, yes
[23:27] <Ashfire908> how do i tell vim to save a file to a new location?
[23:27] <kyleBAKED> is there a way to get true transparency without using xgl/compiz?
[23:27] <sgraham3> exit
[23:27] <fallore> eltux: nope
[23:28] <khermans> !vmware | OD810
[23:28] <ubotu> OD810: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[23:28] <charles87> Ashfire908 :save
[23:28] <Pandemic187> Does anyone know if custom themes can be installed on xubuntu?
[23:28] <Ace2016> Ashfire908: try nano, much easier to use
[23:28] <eltux> fallore: did you plug anything into your computer recently that wasn't plugged into it?
[23:28] <AspiringSociopat> can someone help a nub?
[23:28] <Pici> !themes | Pandemic187
[23:28] <ubotu> Pandemic187: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:28] <khermans> !help | AspiringSociopat
[23:28] <ubotu> AspiringSociopat: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:28] <fallore> eltux: i put a blank cd in the cd rom drive and installed k3b to attempt to burn a cd, it didn't work out
[23:28] <Pici> !ask | AspiringSociopat
[23:28] <ubotu> AspiringSociopat: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:28] <eltux> fallore: did you leave the cd in?
[23:28] <Pandemic187> Yes, but I'm just asking if they can be installed on xubuntu.
[23:28] <fallore> eltux: i think i might've.
[23:28] <AspiringSociopat> okay
[23:29] <calux> hi, i'm new here
[23:29] <Johnny_5> AspiringSociopat: what issue have u?
[23:29] <Ace2016> Pandemic187: what themes are you talking about? gtk theme?
[23:29] <eltux> fallore: that might be it, I know when I leave my iPod plugged in it goes a little nutty
[23:29] <Pandemic187> Yes.
[23:29] <djcabz> khermans:  thanks.
[23:29] <AspiringSociopat> How do i extract this file iat-0.1.3-src.tar.bz2 and install it?
[23:29] <fallore> eltux: alright, thanks :] i uninstalled k3b just in case as well, and i'll take the cd out, should be better and if not you'll see me again soon :]
[23:29] <calux> i used ubuntu some years and is the first time joines this channel
[23:29] <Pandemic187> Ace2016: Yes.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> Ashfire908:  use :w /path/to/save/to/filename
[23:30] <eltux> okay fallore. good luck!
[23:30] <khermans> djcabz, np dude
[23:30] <Pici> AspiringSociopat: Is that the iso analyzer tool?
[23:30] <khermans> !tar | AspiringSociopat
[23:30] <ubotu> AspiringSociopat: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[23:30] <Ashfire908> Dr_Willis, already got it done but ty anyway now i know another way
[23:30] <lauren> ok, so no screensaver love for me eh?
[23:30] <bundagan> is this the chat room for Hardy?
[23:30] <OD810> khermans: is it possible to create vmc file on raw disk with EasyVMX?
[23:30] <Pici> bundagan: no, #ubuntu+1 is
[23:30] <extracted> is there a version of nslookup that has the ls command in it ?
[23:30] <Pandemic187> Xubuntu is somewhat different from Ubuntu and it doesn't seem like themes can be installed via the theme manager
[23:31] <AspiringSociopat> it an mdf to iso converter
[23:31] <Ace2016> gtk themes and qt themes are independant of the desktop, qt theme can be changed with qtconfig, not sure how gtk themes are changed
[23:31] <eltux> bumndagan: #ubuntu+1 is for hardy, right now this channel is for gutsy
[23:31] <PurpZeY> AspiringSociopat: tar -xvfj archive.tar.bz2
[23:31] <khermans> AspiringSociopat, why not just -> sudo aptitude install iat ?
[23:31] <Pici> AspiringSociopat: thats in the ubuntu repositories, theres no need to install it from source.
[23:31] <racchia> good night......
[23:31] <Pici> !info iat | AspiringSociopat
[23:31] <AspiringSociopat> okay i got it open but i dont know what to do with it next
[23:31] <ubotu> aspiringsociopat: iat: Converts many CD-ROM image formats to iso9660. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.3-5 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[23:31] <eltux> racchia: good night
[23:31] <Eyemean> hi is there a shockwave player for gutsy firefox pls?
[23:31] <khermans> OD810, not sure, sorry
[23:31] <AspiringSociopat> oh! i didnt know that!
[23:31] <bruenig> Eyemean, there is not
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: Nope
[23:31] <Pandemic187> Ace2016: I see, because they're very easy to install on Ubuntu
[23:31] <Pici> AspiringSociopat: sudo apt-get install iat
[23:31] <TuxIce> wheeeeeeeeeeee
[23:32] <AspiringSociopat> damn i keep loosing track on this irc
[23:32] <AspiringSociopat> it stops suto scrolling
[23:32] <bruenig> Eyemean, you can install wine, use wine to install windows firefox, then use that to install shockwave
[23:32] <djcabz> khermans:  before I go too deep here, is there a method to hook valgrind up to an already running daemon?
[23:32] <eltux> TuxIce: bored? lol
[23:32] <Eyemean> ohhh no
[23:32] <AspiringSociopat> thanks pici
[23:32] <Pici> AspiringSociopat: Sure thing :)
[23:32] <Eyemean> ok thanx bruenig
[23:32] <acu> I have a wmv movie which requires activation to run it - runs in Media Player (Window$) and I want to convert it to MPEG movie - can anyone how to do it ?
[23:32] <khermans> djcabz, man valgrind
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: Or you can install IEs4Linux under wine.
[23:32] <eltux> !codecs | acu
[23:32] <djcabz> so, perhaps yes I can... OK man it is.
[23:32] <ubotu> acu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:33] <Ace2016> Pandemic187: install gtk-theme-switch (for gtk 1 themes) gtk-chtheme (for gtk2 theme) and qtconfig for kde themes
[23:33] <stuckey> #mp3norge
[23:33] <khermans> acu, call microsoft
[23:33] <Ace2016> sorry i mean for qt themes
[23:33] <Johnny_5> go into the comand line, go to the dir the file is located and type in: tar -xzvf <tarfile>
[23:33] <Ace2016> how do you know its tar.gz?
[23:33] <tomas_> anyone here that has alc850 sound chip ? having some serious trouble with it :o
[23:33] <Pandemic187> Okay, thanks Ace2016
[23:33] <insomninja> What do you think of this idea; many games (etqw in this case) run better with low nice values, but that often would require running them as root =bad practice so what about running something like this:
[23:33] <eltux> Ace2016: it would say .tar.gz at the end :D
[23:34] <stuckey> Hello. Can someone please tell me how I find a list of different channels to connect to?
[23:34] <IMYojimbo> how can i mass convert svg files to png (with GUI plz)
[23:34] <Ace2016> i found a good howto for extracting stuff
[23:34] <insomninja> gksudo 'echo run etqw faster' && /usr/local/games/etqw/etqw & sleep 20 && pidof etqw.x86 | xargs sudo renice -15 -p && sudo -k
[23:34] <Eyemean> i guess Ies4linux would be better way odd-rationale, how would i do pls, im new to linux, but i do have wine installed
[23:34] <insomninja> be better?
[23:34] <eltux> !channels
[23:34] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[23:34] <charles87> stuckey "/list
[23:34] <eltux> !channels | stuckey
[23:34] <ubotu> stuckey: please see above
[23:34] <Johnson> is there a firefox pluging
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> !ies4linux | eyeman
[23:34] <ubotu> eyeman: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[23:34] <stuckey> Thank you.
[23:34] <insomninja> sorry for bad punctuation
[23:34] <Johnson> sorry. is there a firefox pdf plugin
[23:34] <IMYojimbo> how can i mass convert svg files to png (with GUI plz)
[23:34] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: ^
[23:34] <fallore> Johnson: for what?
[23:34] <khermans> Johnson, adobe reader
[23:34] <fallore> nvm
[23:35] <Johnny_5> nvm
[23:35] <Johnson> khermans, how do i get the adobe reader plugin
[23:35] <pm2> Hi - I'm using Fiesty, trying to get a bluetooth adapter working.  When I plug it in, a message pops up from the "KDE Bluetooth Framework" saying, "Failed to connect to the SDP server.  Please make sure that sdpd is running; without it, other devices will not be able to find out which services your computer offers."  Any idea on how to fix this?
[23:35] <AspiringSociopat> how do i execute iat after installing?
[23:35] <Johnson> is there a debian pacakage for adobe
[23:35] <Ace2016> tells you how to use tar, very handy for making my icon theme http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_File_Compression
[23:35] <Pici> AspiringSociopat: I dont know, its probably a command line application, type iat, or man iat.
[23:35] <stuckey> !channels
[23:35] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[23:35] <khermans> !adobe | Johnson_
[23:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:36] <Eyemean> thank you odd-rationale
[23:36] <Pici> !pdf | Johnson_
[23:36] <ubotu> Johnson_: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: np
[23:36] <AspiringSociopat> ahha okay
[23:36] <khermans> Johnson_, there used to be
[23:36] <AspiringSociopat> its not a gui based ap
[23:36] <XBehave> how do i find the version of software?
[23:36] <IMYojimbo> how can i mass convert svg files to png (with GUI plz)
[23:36] <khermans> XBehave, dpkg
[23:36] <khermans> XBehave, or aptitude show foo
[23:37] <charles87> XBehave: try in a terminal "man software_name"
[23:37] <Maddog> hi
[23:37] <khermans> !hi | madd__
[23:37] <ubotu> madd__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:37] <khermans> !hi | Maddog
[23:37] <ubotu> Maddog: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:37] <Pici> XBehave: apt-cache policy packagename
[23:37] <khermans> heh
[23:37] <stuckey> #ubuntu!
[23:37] <Maddog> :)
[23:37] <charles87> XBehave: it may be "soft -V" or "soft --version"
[23:37] <bruenig> IMYojimbo, probably try mogrify
[23:37] <khermans> Pici, that doesnt necessarily show you which version you have installed, right?
[23:37] <Pici> khermans: it will actually.
[23:37] <charles87> XBehave: or start the program and look in the help menu for About
[23:38] <Pici> khermans: Installed and available.
[23:38] <Maddog> i have a problem with luks encryption in gutsy and thought maybe one of you could help me...
[23:38] <khermans> Pici, oh ya!
[23:38] <khermans> Pici, i forgot about apt-cache policy, very useful
[23:38] <mhrnjad> Maddog: what is your problem?
[23:38] <IMYojimbo> bruenig: can it handle svg?
[23:38] <acu> how to convert from wmv video to ogg ?
[23:38] <khermans> !luks | Maddog
[23:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:38] <OD810> anyway experience low resolution with ATi Driver, I cant get the max resolution for my 22" monitor
[23:38] <OD810> anyone*
[23:39] <khermans> acu, ffmpeg2theora
[23:39] <kebinusan> any recommendations n a good bittorrent client for linux, perhaps something similar to utorrent
[23:39] <PurpZeY> acu: You can play wmv in Ubuntu, but if you want to convert you can use FFMPEG
[23:39] <Maddog> i encrypted several partitions with cryptsetup and when i reboot it queries me for the first password but not for the others
[23:39] <jeff__> OD810: What driver are you using?
[23:39] <toni_> OD810, i cannot to on 19''
[23:39] <eltux> OD810: are you using the restricted drivers?
[23:39] <khermans> kebinusan, i like rtorrent, cli only
[23:39] <Maddog> ans because of this i cant boot my system
[23:39] <PurpZeY> kebinusan: Utorrent under wine, IMO.
[23:39] <Pici> acu: iirc you cannot play drm encoded wmvs in linux
[23:39] <toni_> i am using open ati
[23:39] <OD810> jeff__: Restricted driver, i got compiz working properly but not the resolution
[23:39] <khermans> kebinusan, aptitude search torrent
[23:40] <kebinusan> yeah I was using utorrent under wine, but isnce I upgraded from i386 to amd64 it stopped working for me
[23:40] <mhrnjad> Maddog: did you add all your encrypted partitions to /etc/crypttab?
[23:40] <OD810> eltux: yes i'm using restricted driver
[23:40] <kebinusan> Im not quite sure why
[23:40] <PurpZeY> Ah I see
[23:40] <Johnny_5> okay i looked it up and the z in .bz2 indicates that its a .gz file
[23:40] <XBehave> is 0.9-1 the same as  0.9.1 ?
[23:40] <acu> Pici: is there a way to circumvent that ? --- can I convert it in windows ? from wmv to ogg ?
[23:40] <Johnson_> !acroread
[23:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:40] <Pici> acu: I dont know, sorry.
[23:40] <jeff__> Is the resolution not listed under Screens and Graphics?
[23:40] <Maddog> mhrnjad: yes
[23:40] <kitche> Johnson_: that doesn't make sense
[23:40] <Maddog> in exactly the same way
[23:40] <OD810> jeff__: no it's not
[23:40] <Maddog> but he only prompts for the root partition
[23:41] <hanophix33> newbie here
[23:41] <stuckey> Would someone please tell me how I can learn how to better use this software? Perhaps an FAQ or manual is available?
[23:41] <OD810> jeff__: I tried to changed the xorg.conf but didnt work
[23:41] <hanophix33> I have wireless question
[23:41] <Johnson_> kitche: what are u talking about
[23:41] <mhrnjad> Maddog: that's funny .. I am only using one encrypted partition ...
[23:41] <hanophix33> can anyone help me with wireless question
[23:41] <mhrnjad> Maddog: any clues from dmesg or system logs?
[23:41] <PurpZeY> !ask | hanophix33
[23:41] <ubotu> hanophix33: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:41] <kitche> Johnny_5: that doesn't make sense since bz2 is diffent then gz
[23:41] <Maddog> nope
[23:41] <eltux> OD810: hrm, go to System>Administration>Screen and Graphics then tick Graphics Card. tell me what driver you are using
[23:41] <hanophix33> ok
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> acu: You can try some online converters: http://www.zamzar.com/ http://www.media-convert.com/
[23:42] <jeff__> OD810: not sure then. As I understand it the driver directly from ATI has better support for compiz so you could always try that.
[23:42] <kitche> Johnny_5: wrong nick name didn't hit tab enough
[23:42] <Maddog> i guess it could be because of the separation of usr and var
[23:42] <OD810> eltux: i need to boot to Ubuntu now brb
[23:42] <khermans> Odd-rationale, oh you know about those sites?
[23:42] <Maddog> but i'ld like to keep this separation
[23:42] <bmoney> !ot
[23:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:42] <Johnny_5> kitche: http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/28145.html
[23:42] <kitche> Johnson_: sigh tab completed on you on accident
[23:42] <mhrnjad> Maddog: yes!
[23:42] <horizxon> I cant get my graphics to work, I'm on the live cd and don't want to install unless I can get my graphics to work, (and wireless)
[23:42] <angel_> wols, you still in here buddy? goddamn xchat-gnome was acting up. had to switch to xchat
[23:42] <mhrnjad> Maddog: it's the shared libs for cryptsetup on /usr
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> khermans: I use them sometimes. Especially zamzar which can convert docx, pptx, xlsx, etc.
[23:43] <PurpZeY> horizxon: what cards?
[23:43] <mhrnjad> Maddog: give me a sec .. will give you a link
[23:43] <Maddog> ahh, k then ill try copying it to the root partition
[23:43] <Johnny_5> kitche: its all good
[23:43] <hanophix33> Eastern Michigan University has a campus wide wireless network.  It is a wireless network which requires a url redirect to login with a student ID from a specific webpage.  When I was on campus today, testing Ubuntu's wireless capabilities, no wireless networks appeared.
[23:43] <djcabz> khermans:  valgrind is actually a fairly extensive application.  I doubt it will be as helpful if I have to spend two hours figuring out what tools in valgrind I need for my situation, then another hour collecting metrics.  can you point me to a nice how to do X guickly FAQ... :)
[23:43] <horizxon> its a new HP laptop
[23:43] <eltux> horizxon: it will most likely work after you install it. Are you using ATI or NIVIDIA? If so, the restricted drivers will be available after installation
[23:43] <mhrnjad> Maddog: the solution is to use a statically linked cryptsetup binary ..
[23:43] <kitche> Johnny_5: tar xvfz is used ot extract .gz files the compression is different then a bz2 file
[23:43] <horizxon> nvidia Geforce go 7150M
[23:43] <eltux> horizxon: usually
[23:43] <Maddog> mhrnjad: hm..even better :)
[23:43] <hanophix33> Is anyone familiar with this type of wireless network
[23:44] <PurpZeY> hanophix33: Yes.
[23:44] <Maddog> mhrnjad: is there an ubuntu package
[23:44] <PurpZeY> hanophix33: They have one at my school
[23:44] <Maddog> or do i have to build it myself?
[23:44] <hanophix33> Purp....good!
[23:44] <jinxed-> Can someone help me get my video card working
[23:44]  * angel_ thinks wols left
[23:44] <donluigi> I have a problem with my ram. Have 248.9 for user memory and 729.4 for swap. Can this be changed?
[23:44] <mhrnjad> Maddog: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/139635
[23:44] <Johnny_5> kitche: yeah...i kinda jumped ahead of myself on that one...
[23:44] <Pici> bruenig: Why is that a problem?
[23:44] <mhrnjad> Maddog: no package but you can download it from ..
[23:44] <Pici> bruenig: sorry, wrong person.
[23:44] <horizxon> why would it work after install? my other computers work on the livecd. Thats how I know it will work later
[23:44] <Maddog> mhrnjad: thx!
[23:44] <Pici> donluigi: What exactly is the issue?
[23:44] <hanophix33> Purp....does it work?
[23:44] <djcabz> hanophix33:  it sounds like the wireless network wasn't beaconing, but I don't Eastern Michigan.  How do you know they have a wireless network
[23:45] <khermans> Odd-rationale, what would you say if i told you a service might become available soon where you can sigup and scp files to have them converted for you?
[23:45] <donluigi> My computer is slower than it should. I really dont understand what the swap memory is for
[23:45] <angel_> guys, i've googled for a good tutorial on adding a new harddrive to my ubuntu but have not found much. has anyone see one?
[23:45] <donluigi> and i thought it was because of that configuration.
[23:45] <hanophix33> Because they do, I know that for a fact.  Used it when I was using Windows
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> khermans: Free?
[23:45] <extracted> Any one know where i can get a working copy of axfr for ubuntu ?
[23:45] <OD810> eltux: it's fglrx driver
[23:45] <eltux> OD810: what kind of card do you have?
[23:45] <OD810> eltux: i got ATi 2600XT
[23:46] <djcabz> hanophix33:  and you know that your wireless adapter is functioning under nix ?
[23:46] <shadix> hey how do you install desklets?
[23:46] <charles87> how could I run a scipt when I quit a session?
[23:46] <khermans> djcabz, http://www.cprogramming.com/debugging/valgrind.html
[23:46] <OD810> eltux: and fglrxinfo show the correct graphics card
[23:46] <hanophix33> djcabz: I am on it right now
[23:46] <TuxIce> whats the ubunut random irc channel
[23:46] <donluigi> PIci: My computer is slower than it should be... cant seem to have more than two applications open.
[23:46] <Odd-rationale> !ot
[23:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:46] <khermans> Odd-rationale, what dont you like about zamzar?  do you have an account?
[23:46] <djcabz> thank khermans
[23:46] <TuxIce> ty
[23:46] <shadix> !desklets
[23:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desklets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:46] <donluigi> Pici: i dont really know what the swap ram is for, but i thought the problem was there and came here for help.
[23:46] <Pici> donluigi: And you think this is a ram problem? Perhaps something is using up all your cpu.
[23:46] <shadix> !screenlets
[23:46] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[23:46] <angel_> how do i add a new hard drive to my box?
[23:46] <jamiejackson> what's my best bet for importing from a cheapo camera that's not recognized as a usb drive in xubuntu? gtkam doesn't list it in their model selector, btw
[23:47] <eltux> OD810: hrm, I'm not shure now......
[23:47] <Pici> donluigi: The swap is like the pagefile in windows.
[23:47] <donluigi> Pici: Pagefile?
[23:47] <wols> angel_: I never leave
[23:47] <mhrnjad> Maddog: http://luks.endorphin.org/dm-crypt
[23:47] <djcabz> hanophix33:  I don't understand when you say "it" you are on a different wireless network using your wi adapter, but when you are at Eastern, you cannot see the SSID of the wireless network there.
[23:47] <Eyemean> odd-rationale one quick question pls, if in ie4 linux it asks to install shockwave, do i just press yes as normal?
[23:47] <OD810> eltux: it's alright, thank you anyway
[23:47] <Johnny_5> timewarner is gettin' kind of annoying...i like to use bittorrent, but i can only download for approx 20 min bfore they close my internet down and i have to restart my router in order to get back online...i wish there was a way around it...
[23:47] <Johnny_5> oh well
[23:47] <Pici> donluigi: Think of it as using the hard-drive as additional ram.
[23:47] <angel_> donluigi, pagefile or swap file is physical storage turned memory, aka virtual memory
[23:47] <eltux> OD810: sorry I wasn't more helpful :\
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: On install or after install?
[23:47] <andruu> hey i just installed ubuntu 7.10 on my macbook pro, when i try and update it only looks on the install cd for packages, how do i point it to the web?
[23:48] <andruu> ... update apt-get that is*
[23:48] <hanophix33> djcabz:  I guess i didnt understand your question.  My wireless card works, well except for wpa.
[23:48] <donluigi> Pici: But i do have two ram cards installed one of 256 and another one of 512
[23:48] <Fraser> Can anyone guide me in the right direction for installing a linux printer driver in a windows xp pro machine so that a ubuntu laptop can print to it over a network? Thanks
[23:48] <Eyemean> odd-rationale, after install, i just went to site and it wants to install it
[23:48] <donluigi> Pici: So i should have 768 in user memory, right? plus the swap
[23:48] <Pici> donluigi: It doesnt necessarily use it if your physical ram is used up, it makes the decision as to what is more efficient for the tasks its doing.,
[23:48] <dox> Hi, i am using TV Out with my Nvidia Card but i have a problem, when i try to put VLC in fullscreen it allways 'fills up' the PC-TFT Monitor insteat if the TV-Monitor.... Is there some way to change this?!
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> Eyemean: Yes, just say yes.
[23:49] <Eyemean> ok cheers
[23:49] <khermans> djcabz, np dude
[23:49] <hanophix33> djcabz:  I do not know what type of wireless network they are using whether it has seperate security or what
[23:49] <cafuego> Fraser: Installing a Linux driver in windows is 1) imporribl and 2) Won't make a Linux machine print to a printer on Windows.
[23:49] <hanophix33> djcabz
[23:49] <Pici> donluigi: Have you taken a look at your cpu usage? perhaps something is using that up
[23:49] <OD810> Fraser: are you using network printer?
[23:49] <djcabz> hanophix33:  Do you remember what windows reported when you were using it in Windows.
[23:49] <cafuego> Fraser: What you need is to share the printer in XP, then add a Samba printer in the Print Admin dialog (You need to make samba installed)
[23:49] <tomas_> !sound
[23:49] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:50] <donluigi> how do i do that?
[23:50] <tomas_> !sound alc850
[23:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound alc850 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:50] <hanophix33> djcabz:  No, do I need to go in with windows and see the SSID and connect using that name?
[23:50] <donluigi> Pici: How do i do that?
[23:50] <Fraser> the printer is shared out from the windows desktop machine
[23:50] <donluigi> Pici: System MOnitor?
[23:50] <OD810> Fraser: you might want to try samba
[23:50] <dox> Hi, i am using TV Out with my Nvidia Card but i have a problem, when i try to put VLC in fullscreen it allways 'fills up' the PC-TFT Monitor insteat if the TV-Monitor.... Is there some way to change this?! Help ppl :> Wanna watch som nice series^^
[23:50] <Pici> donluigi: yes
[23:50] <mike__> I Installed Ubuntu a couple days ago. It's great but, the screen keeps freezing for about 20-30 sec every 10 min or so. Any suggestions?
[23:50] <Pici> donluigi: Make sure you set the view to "all processes" though
[23:51] <hanophix33> djcabz:  thanks for answering these question by the way.  Ive been using Ubuntu for about 2 weeks
[23:51] <djcabz> hanophix33:  no, but from what you told me you were not seeing the SSID beacons under nix. which led me to believe that your wireless adapter was not working.  brb
[23:51] <Fraser> On the windows machine, there is no samba option in the additional drivers options
[23:51] <RyanPrior> mike__: I'm glad that you're generally pleased, but the screen thing definitely sucks. Can you pastebin dmesg for me?
[23:51] <donluigi> Pici: Thanks, let me go through it
[23:51] <RyanPrior> !pastebin
[23:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:52] <angel__> damn i got disc again
[23:52] <shadix> erm...how do i install "screenlets" from screenlets.org
[23:52] <angel__> andruu, first q is are you connected to the web?
[23:52] <arizalord> how can i change my screen resolution? it doesn't appear in preferences!!
[23:52] <hanophix33> Purpzey: you there?
[23:53] <XBehave> dox erm i rember sorting the problem out but cant rember how, think i had to launch vlc on  the screen you want to fullscreen on
[23:53] <`Zmax`> hello
[23:53] <`Zmax`> anyone configured a 03:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) card ? :|
[23:53] <`Matir> is there any way to convert a non-LVM setup to LVM without a full reinstall?
[23:53] <horizxon> ow do i install the restricted nvidia drivers?
[23:53] <angel__> andruu, ?
[23:53] <acidfire2008> hey guys im wondering if anyone could help me out when i try to open my ntfs drive it tells me unable to mount volume
[23:53] <easouken> my quickcam pro 9000 has not been working very well with the uvc drivers any tips?
[23:53] <donluigi> Pici: It looks ok. Nothing out of whack. Im sorry for being such a hard head.... but for what i understood, the 256 is my physical memory and the 756 is the hard drive turned into memory. The computer decides which to use depending on the task right?
[23:53] <angel__> what is lvm?
[23:54] <XBehave> shadix: you need to add their repository and then sudo aptitude update
[23:54] <flamsmark> !lvm
[23:54] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[23:54] <mike__> Ryan: There's no message. It just freezes and the current window grays, sometimes the whole screen
[23:54] <shadix> oh
[23:54] <shadix> XBehave: thx
[23:54] <hanophix33> My Lightening in Thunderbird isnt working
[23:54] <RyanPrior> mike__: But after a few seconds it goes back to normal?
[23:54] <arizalord> how can i change my screen resolution? it doesn't appear in preferences!!
[23:54] <inertial> anyone had any luck using 1680x1050 resolution with an ATI graphics card?
[23:54] <angel__> wols, ?
[23:54] <Johnny_5> andruu: try software sources and make sure you have selections made uder the internet section. that'd be the first thing i'd check out
[23:54] <Pici> donluigi: Yes, how does the "Resources tab" look? Does it look correct for User memory x out of xx? and same for swap?
[23:55] <dox> XBehave  i think i've tried all in that kind of tryouts  :/ damn... -.-
[23:55] <OD810> inertial: i've no luck
[23:55] <mike__> Ryan: Yes.
[23:55] <OD810> inertial: got it installed yesterday but cant get 1680x1050 resolution working, max i got is 1280x1024
[23:55] <calux> anyone can recommend me a good shooting game for linux?
[23:55] <acidfire2008> can anyone help me when i try to mount my ntfs drive it says unable to mount drive and something like i need to force it or somehting
[23:55] <`Zmax`> Someone could help me? --> http://rafb.net/p/zDE30j33.html
[23:55] <RyanPrior> mike__: That is because the program is becoming momentarily unresponsive. The grayness is to tell you that the program has stalled, but the fact that it comes back means that the program is simply busy.
[23:55] <XBehave> shadix: if i recal correctly the repo doesnt cover the dependancies
[23:55] <djcabz> hanophix33:  Well, let us see if I can help you, I may not be able to, but let's try.
[23:55] <acidfire2008> it worked last time though
[23:55] <OD810> calux: unreal tournament
[23:55] <inertial> OD810: same problem, and if i use the restricted drivers i get even lower res
[23:56] <donluigi> Pici: user memory 205.5 out of 248.9 and swap memory 136.5 out of 729.4
[23:56] <Fraser> Is there anyway to install the latest windows live messenger using wine, The installer says it must be installed on a Windows Machine. I'm currently using Knope (or whatever) but i'd prefer the MS one?
[23:56] <jamiejackson> anybody know a better channel for asking about importing pictures from off-brand cameras (with no removable media)?
[23:56] <hanophix33> djcabz....thanks!
[23:56] <RyanPrior> mike__: So, it's really nothing to worry about. If the greyness bothers you you can disable it, but I like it because it tells me when the program is busy.
[23:56] <djcabz> hanophix33:  Have you ever connected to a wireless network using Ubuntu?
[23:56] <arizalord> OD810, how can i change my screen resolution?
[23:56] <Pici> donluigi: Sounds like your memory isnt getting detected properly, make sure that your BIOS sees it when you boot up.
[23:56] <Johnny_5> calux: 1st person shooter?
[23:56] <hanophix33> djcabz: I am on a wireless network now
[23:56] <OD810> arizalord: System -> Administration -> Screen & Graphics
[23:56] <donluigi> Pici: My question that still stands, is that i do have 768 in physical ram. one ram card of 256 and another one of 512.
[23:56] <charles87> arizalord: look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:57] <tomas_> how to I make ubuntu mount my hardisks at start? just at to /etc/fstab or ?
[23:57] <RyanPrior> mike__: If you've used Windows before, it's the equivalent of the hourglass cursor.
[23:57] <donluigi> lemme go ahead and try that... ill be back in a few minutes.
[23:57] <hanophix33> djcabz:  I can see many wireless networks with my device
[23:57] <calux> thanxs OD810
[23:57] <gyaresu> !fstab | tomas_
[23:57] <djcabz> hanophix33:  are you at the university?
[23:57] <ubotu> tomas_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:57] <hanophix33> djcabz:  this particular one at school is a tricky one...
[23:57] <hanophix33> djcabz:  I am at home
[23:57] <donluigi> Pici: Lemme go ahead and try that.... ill be back in a few minutes. thanks
[23:57] <arizalord> OD810, yes, but my optimal resolution does not appear!
[23:57] <tomas_> gyaresu, thanks, but is there a UI app availabel?
[23:57] <mike__> Ryan: It's not the grayness that bothers me. The whole machine freezes and I can't do anything till it comes back.
[23:57] <hanophix33> djcabz:  did you see my description of the type?
[23:57] <Johnny_5> calux: there's also nexius...its kinda like UT
[23:57] <wols> angel__: logical volume manager
[23:58] <wols> !lvm
[23:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[23:58] <OD810> arizalord: i'm in that problem as well, are you using ATI card with restricted driver?
[23:58] <RyanPrior> mike__: Do you have enough memory and swap?
[23:58] <arizalord> OD810, yes!
[23:58] <calux> yes Johnny_5
[23:58] <djcabz> hanophix33:  no, I didn't catch that...  I just saw wireless.
[23:58] <XBehave> Fraser: try winedq
[23:58] <gyaresu> tomas_: Sorry. I'm not much help with gui. Text files and command line no problem.
[23:58] <hanophix33> Eastern Michigan University has a campus wide wireless network.  It is a wireless network which requires a url redirect to login with a student ID from a specific webpage.  When I was on campus today, testing Ubuntu's wireless capabilities, no wireless networks appeared.
[23:58] <OD810> arizalord: I've been googling for days but couldnt get around it
[23:58] <tomas_> haha okey thanks gyaresu  :)
[23:58] <calux> ok, i will try nexius
[23:58] <Fraser> XBehave, ?
[23:58] <mike__> I have 512 mem and 600MB swap
[23:58] <XBehave> *winedb the wine database covers what can/cant be installed
[23:59] <Fraser> XBehave, Oh ok, thanks
[23:59] <gyaresu> hanophix33: Did you try 'sudo iwlist eth1 scan' ?
[23:59] <angel__> wols, how do i know if i have it?
[23:59] <calux> thanks a lot guys
[23:59] <RyanPrior> mike__: Are you running memory-intensive programs?
[23:59] <arizalord> charles87, yes, i've change it, and i wrote in monitor mode my resolution, but it doesn't run!
[23:59] <Fraser> XBehave, I didnt even think of checking there.
[23:59] <mike__> Ryan: it's happened twice now during our conversation - everything dead for a few secs
[23:59] <yuhong> BTW, iwl3945 should be the default in next version of ubuntu, it does not require the restricted regulatory daemon like ipw3945 do.