| geser | cjwatson_: Hi, when you have time could you review bug #180669? It includes also a fix for the fakeroot FTBFS problem in hardy. | 00:01 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180669 in fakeroot "[Merge] fakeroot 1.9 from Debian unstable (includes also a fix for the FTBFS)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180669 | 00:01 |
| t0mLe | hi, have a question - any one know what my be causing "gdbm fatal: lseek error" - happens every time i try using svn | 00:11 |
| geser | t0mLe: bug #180368 | 00:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180368 in command-not-found "gdbm fatal: lseek error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180368 | 00:17 |
| t0mLe | thank you geser; only did a quick search and did not find any thing.. | 00:19 |
| t0mLe | no know now of any temp fixes? | 00:21 |
| Fujitsu | t0mLe: Are you sure it's svn giving that error, and not command-not-found? Try installing svn. | 00:26 |
| t0mLe | Fujitsu, i will try.. | 00:27 |
| t0mLe | ok, it probably was command-not-found | 00:28 |
| t0mLe | since installing SVN worked... | 00:28 |
| t0mLe | it did fix it.. | 00:29 |
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| emgent | keescook, ping | 02:13 |
| supersako | im a software developer currently running archlinux on my laptop but sick of it.. going to switch to ubuntu but dont know if i should get ubuntu or kubuntu what are you guys running? | 03:52 |
| Chipzz | supersako: -> #ubuntu pls | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntu in here | 03:52 |
| Chipzz | and also ubuntu | 03:53 |
| Chipzz | Hobbsee: so what's up with you not running kubuntu anyway? ;) | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | Chipzz: wanted a change. *shrug* | 03:53 |
| Chipzz | Hobbsee: yeah but I though you maintained quite a few kde packages? | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | kde is group-maintained | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | but yes, i made some fo the uplaods to them | 03:54 |
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| wasabi | Hmm. Epiphany somehow lost NTLM support in hardy recently. | 06:15 |
| x15_ | anybody in here? | 07:22 |
| ion_ | metaquestions + impatience = win | 07:24 |
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| stdin | if I have a patch for devscripts, I should just post a bug and upload the debdiff right? | 08:02 |
| stdin | done that anyway: bug 180748 | 08:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180748 in devscripts "debchange should increment ~ppa revisions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180748 | 08:20 |
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| hunger | Any chance of getting valgrind merged into hardy? It is a dev-only tool, so it shouldn't break things for users and it had some mayor updates. | 10:08 |
| stdin | Hobbsee: bug 180748 :) | 10:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180748 in devscripts "debchange should increment ~ppa revisions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180748 | 10:30 |
| * Hobbsee marks a critical bug. | 11:15 | |
| pabs3 | how does one get a sync request acted on? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/warzone2100/+bug/180357 | 11:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 180357 in warzone2100 "Please sync warzone2100 version 2.1.0~0.svn3260-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:37 |
| Fujitsu | pabs3: One waits. Particularly as it is a weekend. | 11:39 |
| persia | pabs3: It will likely get hit on Monday. | 11:51 |
| pabs3 | cool. what about removing packages from gutsy? is that possible? | 11:52 |
| persia | pabs3: Only in cases of extreme legal need. Better to remove from hardy. | 11:52 |
| pabs3 | not even for really really buggy stuff? a buggy SVN revision of warzone2100 was imported from Debian. it either needs to be removed from gutsy or synced from sid into gutsy | 11:54 |
| Giel | yes, the current warzone2100 version is _very_ much outdated, and we seem to be getting bugreports for that package on our bugtracker | 11:58 |
| minghua | pabs3: Not going to happen. The sensible solution is to backport the hardy version (once it's sync'ed) to gutsy. | 11:58 |
| persia | pabs3: If it's really, really, really buggy (as in RC buggy), it might be eligible for an SRU. | 11:58 |
| Giel | even though we know that some of those bugs are fixed in later SVN versions... | 11:58 |
| Giel | persia: it isn't a release candidate it's a snapshot from a very unstable development trunk | 11:59 |
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| persia | Giel: I realise that, and had I known three months ago, I'd have tried to find a way to not include it. As it stands now, it's hard to fix unless it causes data loss, is a severe regression from a previous release, FTBFS, cannot be installed, or segfault on startup. | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hunger: valgrind merged | 12:30 |
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| Giel | persia: it _will_ cause incompatibility of several config files and savegames made with the version currently in gutsy _will_ break | 12:32 |
| Giel | which is something I think users should be made aware of when they upgrade their warzone2100 | 12:33 |
| persia | Giel: That might be data loss, but it might be a candidate for a NEWS.Debian entry or richer maintainer scripts. I'm not one of the people who can confirm something is SRU worthy, but if you think there is a patch that would make the transition less painful, and wouldn't cause transition breakage by application, it might be worth submitting it. | 12:34 |
| Giel | persia: the savegame format that's used by 1436 is broken I think, so converting it to a workable savegame format might not even be possible | 12:37 |
| persia | Giel: Hrm. In that case it sounds like a bug that can't be fixed, so NEWS.Debian would be the way to go. Pushing to backports soon, should help, as many gamers prefer to grab the latest version anyway. | 12:38 |
| Giel | also lately we have been working on moving the savegames to a new format, until that's finished we'll have some intermediate formats that will break for sure | 12:39 |
| Giel | as long as users are aware of that I think it shouldn't be much of a problem | 12:39 |
| persia | Giel: OK. Best thing to do is to get the fixes into alioth SVN before 10th February or so in order to be sure they can be included for hardy. | 12:41 |
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| kaaloo | Hi it seems that udev rules are missing in latest libsane for hardy | 14:12 |
| minghua | kaaloo: Please report a bug, thanks. | 14:14 |
| kaaloo | minghua:Ok will do | 14:15 |
| kaaloo | mmm, seems its been done on purpose : "Do not install the udev rules, since hal now provides dynamic ACLs on device nodes. (See hardy-hardware-detection spec.)" | 14:18 |
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| tuxice | hi | 16:14 |
| tuxice | how do i work on ubuntu drivers and themes on launchpad | 16:14 |
| tuxice | HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO | 16:16 |
| mjj29 | tuxice: hi, I imagine everyone is busy atm | 16:17 |
| mjj29 | it's only been two minutes | 16:17 |
| soren | tuxice: Also, your question doesn't make sense. | 16:17 |
| mjj29 | (also, I'm afraid I can't help, I'm not an ubuntu dev, just a DD who occasionally needs to ask about ubuntu's versions of your packages) | 16:17 |
| mjj29 | s/your/my/ | 16:17 |
| tuxice | ok :) srry for messing up this thread | 16:19 |
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| hunger | Riddell: Thanks for merging valgrind! | 16:51 |
| * hunger grumbles. aptitude keeps crashing here. | 16:52 | |
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| articpenguin3800 | whats it mean when kubuntu and ubuntu share the ubuntu codebase but kubuntu dosent have automatic printer setup | 18:01 |
| Riddell | articpenguin3800: they have different desktop apps, one of those apps is system-config-printer which I'm currently porting to KDE | 18:05 |
| articpenguin3800 | so that means its a gnome app that does that | 18:06 |
| Riddell | articpenguin3800: yes | 18:07 |
| articpenguin3800 | k thanks | 18:08 |
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| EvanCarroll | anyone happen to know where unicode annotations are? I need to file a bug report | 20:01 |
| EvanCarroll | would seem like libuninameslist0 but that isn't installed on my system | 20:01 |
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| soren | While working on libvirt, I've come across a rather odd problem. The core of it is that on Fedora, the following works, but on Ubuntu, I get an -EINVAL: "brctl addbr foobr ; ifconfig foobr up". On Ubuntu, ifconfig up fails until the first interface has been added to the bridge. AFAICS, the kernel is the same and the differences in the bridge-utils packages are cosmetical.. Any guesses? | 20:40 |
| ScottK | soren: How are you on perl module dependencies and sbuild getting confused? I've got a problem I'm trying to sort out and am looking for help. | 20:42 |
| soren | ScottK: Not sure. What's the issue? | 20:43 |
| ScottK | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11178540/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.mime-tools_5.425-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:43 |
| ScottK | libfile-temp-perl is already installed with insufficient version, so the newer one doesn't get pulled in and then later this is discovered and sbuild gives up. | 20:43 |
| ScottK | Builds fine in my local pbuilder, of course. | 20:45 |
| soren | ScottK: Looks quite odd. | 20:45 |
| elmo | ScottK: err | 20:46 |
| elmo | ScottK: I doubt that's actually installed in the chroot | 20:46 |
| elmo | scottk: are you sure it isn't provided by the perl package itself? | 20:46 |
| elmo | ScottK: sbuild and pbuilder handle build-depends on virtual packages very differently | 20:47 |
| ScottK | elmo: I think an older version is provided by perl-modules | 20:47 |
| ScottK | elmo: Any suggestions? | 20:47 |
| elmo | ScottK: if you really depend on that new a version of libfile-temp-perl? get perl to stop providing the package... | 20:50 |
| ScottK | elmo: It does. | 20:50 |
| soren | elmo: but... It's a versioned dependency? | 20:51 |
| elmo | soren: so? sbuild doesn't have the "smarts" to figure this out. it doesn't in Debian either | 20:51 |
| soren | elmo: I see. | 20:51 |
| elmo | and how does the versioned dependency matter anyway? it's not exactly a clearly defined area | 20:51 |
| elmo | perl-modules just says "I provde libfile-temp-perl", it doesn't mention versions explicitly | 20:52 |
| ScottK | Sbuild shouldn't think it's already satisfied the dependency when it hasn't | 20:52 |
| soren | elmo: Well, if it's a versioned dependency, it can't be fulfilled by a Provides: blah? | 20:52 |
| soren | elmo: ..or so I thought. | 20:52 |
| elmo | in fact it C/R/P libfile-temp-perl, which is a big hint to the packaging system of 'replace this package with me instead' | 20:52 |
| elmo | soren: I don't think that's defined/a given, esp. given the C/R/P | 20:53 |
| ScottK | Looks like I need to 'fix' perl-modules then. | 20:53 |
| soren | elmo: True. I didn't notice the C/R/P, though. | 20:53 |
| Kmos | why this happen ? | 20:55 |
| Kmos | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11121825/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.win32-loader_0.6.0%7Epre3_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz | 20:55 |
| Kmos | locales-all is a virtual package and isn't satisfied | 20:56 |
| soren | buid-depending on virtual packages is asking for trouble. | 20:56 |
| Kmos | there are a lot of ones like that on the FTBFS list | 20:57 |
| Kmos | depending on locales-all | 20:57 |
| elmo | err, locales-all doesn't even exist in hardy, AFAICS? | 20:57 |
| Kmos | hmm.. | 20:58 |
| Kmos | it should build against libc6-dev? | 20:58 |
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| Kmos | elmo: thanks for the tip =) | 20:59 |
| geser | ScottK: your perl build problem is bug #111800 filed by you :) | 21:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111800 in sbuild "sbuild attempts to satisfy versioned depencies and fails - causes packages to FTBFS" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111800 | 21:12 |
| ScottK | geser: Thanks. I thought that sounded familiar. | 21:13 |
| ScottK | It looks like there's a real problem between perl-modules and libfile-temp-perl that has to be sorted out. | 21:13 |
| geser | I should try to get infinity's attention to this bug | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Since perl-modules conflicts | 21:14 |
| ScottK | Please do. | 21:14 |
| ScottK | In the meantime, I'm going to figure out how to rip libfile-temp-perl out of perl-modules so we can use the newer one instead. | 21:16 |
| ScottK | Kmos: Duping a bug that is assigned to someone to work on (particularly someone like inifinity) may not have been the best thing to do. | 21:42 |
| ScottK | Bug #178536 | 21:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178536 in sbuild "Preinstalled Build-Depends not properly detected (dup-of: 111800)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178536 | 21:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 111800 in sbuild "sbuild attempts to satisfy versioned depencies and fails - causes packages to FTBFS" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111800 | 21:42 |
| Kmos | ups | 21:42 |
| Kmos | i should dupe the oldest one ? | 21:42 |
| ScottK | I think you should leave it alone. | 21:42 |
| ScottK | i.e. put it back the way you found it. | 21:43 |
| Kmos | ok | 21:43 |
| somerville32 | Why would you ever duplicate a bug? | 21:43 |
| Kmos | ScottK: done | 21:44 |
| Fujitsu | Thankyou Kmos. | 21:44 |
| ScottK | somerville32: Dupe = mark as duplicate | 21:44 |
| Kmos | Fujitsu: no problem | 21:45 |
| Fujitsu | I didn't think I noticed it being duped - seems I looked at it a couple of minutes after it was duped, so I hadn't got a mail. | 21:45 |
| somerville32 | Ahhh, that makes more sense now | 21:45 |
| slangasek | soren: build-depending on virtual packages is sometimes a very reasonable thing to do | 22:29 |
| slangasek | soren: the issue is that you don't want to do it if there's more than one real package providing it at a time; but some yokels like to change -dev package names like they change their underwear, and the virtual package name is the only thing persistent that you can build-depend on | 22:30 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Any suggestions on how to deal with build-deps on perl-modules that are both in 'perl-modules' (but in insufficent version) and have newer ones packaged separately? | 22:33 |
| Mithrandir | ScottK: add versioned build-deps? | 22:34 |
| ScottK | Mithrandir: sbuild doesn't understand those. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | I've got that already. | 22:34 |
| elmo | err, context | 22:34 |
| Mithrandir | ScottK: uh, yes it does. | 22:34 |
| elmo | sbuild doesn't understand them against virtual packages | 22:34 |
| elmo | scottk: I think you have to update the code in perl-modules | 22:34 |
| elmo | scottk: if you rip it out of perl-modules, you risk breaking stuff which depends on it being present in perl-modules (-> no explicit Depends) | 22:35 |
| ScottK | elmo: I hope you're wrong, but am afraid you aren't. | 22:35 |
| ScottK | My plan was to make perl-modules depend on whatever I ripped out. | 22:35 |
| elmo | oh, well that'd work too | 22:35 |
| ScottK | So it could still be relied on to be there. | 22:35 |
| ScottK | But could continue to be updated without having to update perl-modules every time. | 22:36 |
| elmo | the only other alternative (and I'd strongly unrecommend this) is changing the pkg name | 22:36 |
| ScottK | I'm not even thinking about going down that path. | 22:36 |
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| slangasek | I don't understand why the flip-flop between shipping it in perl-modules and shipping it as a separate package, fwiw | 22:43 |
| soren | slangasek: True, but that's kind of a special case, IMO. | 22:48 |
| ScottK | Well I don't exactly either, but a newer version that some packages need is now packaged separately. | 22:48 |
| slangasek | soren: it's common enough that "build-depending on virtual packages is asking for trouble" is misleading. :) | 22:53 |
| IceKiller | any ubuntu dev'rs here wondering about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633068 | 23:15 |
| IceKiller | srry if i'm not allowed to ask this here.. | 23:15 |
| sladen | IceKiller: might be useful to give a quick one-line overview of what $this is | 23:17 |
| thom | IceKiller: try #ubuntu-x, more likely to be useful | 23:17 |
| IceKiller | the Intel driver + MESA 7.01 shipped with Gutsy is quite buggy with Intel GM965, there are new 'drivers' and was wondering if it was going to be included in the mainstream | 23:17 |
| IceKiller | http://www.mesa3d.org/relnotes-7.0.2.html where it mentions among other things that: "Fixed an assortment of i965 driver bugs" && a new Intel driver, version 2.2.0: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/...l-2.2.0.tar.gz | 23:18 |
| sladen | IceKiller: okay, so re-paste your 1st, 3rd and 4th lines to #ubuntu-x as noted by thom | 23:19 |
| IceKiller | just did ;) | 23:19 |
| IceKiller | ty :p | 23:20 |
| ScottK2 | Fujitsu: Looks to me like libfile-temp-perl and libtest-harness-perl are the only perl-modules affected. | 23:34 |
| * ScottK2 runs off again. | 23:34 | |
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